The Sun.
London, England, 1842-04-12 00:00:00

Mr. BLEWITT spoke to order. He said-the lion. Mem-
ber ought to know that the Noble Lord rosie before he moved
the adjournment. If the lion. Member had moved the ad-
ymenment first, he would have been ent:itled to speak before
tix Noble Lord.—(Hear, hear.) He wished to say a word in
his own justification—( Cries of " Order, order.")
Lord F. EGERTON said he rose Chiefly for the purpose of
calling the attention of the House to the opinion of his consti-
tuents upon the question under consideration. Last week ho
had presented a retition, signed by 4,000 inhabitants of the
manufacturing town of Bury; that evening he had presented
ole. which was signed by 24,000 inhabitants of the town of
;qanchester, and both were in favour of the income tax.
'These petitioners stated that they were tensible of the necessity
v,hich existed for making w vigorous effort to supply the defi-
ciency ; that they believed the plan proposed by the Govern-
ment would relieve the distresses of the industrious classes,
and relax those impositions which impeded our. intercourse
with foreign countries, and fettered our domestic industry.
—(Hear, hear.) These were matters of opinion, but what
fdlowed was matter of demonstrative fact ; it was to the
effect that any delay in this emergency beyond the iistaimerts oe
f
I,'r discussion had ceased to he pardonable, it was not a
1 'orliamentary manmuvre, it was a crime of the deepest and
blackest magnitude—(Great laughter from the Opposition )
f•r it was a prolongation, of the distress w 1
hese hich existed.—
( Hear, hear, from the IsLnistarial benches.) ' petitioners
w.re the sensitive plants of property, which were to wither
nil oie, and yet they told them that -they believed the mea-
sures. proposed were calculated to relieve the country in its
;.i .tress.—( Bear.) It would ill become him (Lord F. Egerton)
t stigmatise the course of moving adjournments; but the peti-
liners stated that in their opinion such delay was highly pre-
judicial to the interests of commerce in general, as well as to
the petitioners, to whom the revival of trade was a matter of
most urgent necessity. It was after the close of the Easter
I,,Cess, that this petition had been presented, after the Noble
Lord had come down .to the Howe with that declaration of
1.1,, Which infused new life and spirit into the ranks 01 his party.
Ito ( Lord F. Egerton) rememitered when, after the uefeat
which he had suffered, the Noble Lord—
I.ay floating many a rood."
_ _ .

—( Great laugbter from both sides of the House.) Daring
the Easter recess everythieg that could be was devised and he
hot looked forward with some apprehension to see what course
would be pursued.—(Laughter.) It was subsequent to all this
that petition was drawn up, in which the petitioners spoke of
. ehe high satisfaction with which they had seen that a plan, in-
,: lollop; the income tex,- and his Right Hen. Friend's
tariff, tied been submitted to the House by her Majesty's Go-
'crilthetlth—( Cheers from the Ministerial benches.) The sig-
liettres to that petition were not exclustvely of a Tory charac-
ter. It was stated that the petition was lee more than sit
cle3s in progress of signature. It was only exposed for signa-
-Irc at the Exchange, and two or the e other places ; yet so
.popular was the subject of. the petition, that the names of a
g' eat number of the Whig party were attached to it. He didnot
anaeh more importance to this petition than it deserved.
*. • a"d he should thick as much of it if it had contained 24
o' 4,000 signatures. Under all the circumstadces it was a
‘teevenstration which ought to relieve the anxiety which the
w Right lion. Baronet was supposed to labour under. There
• were one •or two topics re' the various speeches of that
d evening upon which he wished to make one or two observe-
., tiees. Great alairm appeared to have seized the Right Hon.
peel Learned Gentleman who preceded the Right Hon.
Jronet, for he thought that the proposal of Her ,Majesty's
Government-would have the effect of lowering this country
iu the estimation of foreign powers. If he (Lord F. Egerton)
ceor-:urred in th, prayer of that petition, it was because he
thought it was conceived in a spirit which would raise this
e eentry in the scale of nations and in the estimation
threig,n powers.—(Loud cheers.) - He had been very
swuck, eith a passage of a work written by a
fereigner in very eloquent language, Which he would read to
the House. "If we are destined, as we might be, to meet her
( England) in arms, in every continent and in every sea we
sheuld meet her as antagonist worthy of our arms. 7—
( cheers.) ThiS he (Lord F. Egerton) believed was the spirit
end the feeling that would be engendered, if (hey made the
poTosed effort to relieve the enuntry from her present dared-
: tes. He thanked the House for the patience with which he
stay heard, and he would most cordially support the measure of
the Right lion. Baronet.—(Cheers,)
Mr.OROTHEILTON then moved the adjournment of the
debate.
On the qnestion being put,
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that the Noble Lord had wed
f• eW observations to which he wished to refer. The Noble •
Lo 1.1 hat alluded to the conduct of the late Government, and
so id that those who gave delay to the measures of the Government
would be guilty. of a crime. Ile thought that Hon. Gentlemen
must be guided by the nature of the question brought forward,
Wfore they could come to a conclusion with respect to them.—
' (ieeir, hear.) But with regard to those bald measures of the
ki -rverinnent, let it be recollected that:in the month of May,
tteese questions might have been fully considered, and they had
he, n put off on account of the slave trade and the misery that
mkt be inflicted oil the natives of • Africa; anti in the nimeth
of September,*when the new Administration came into office,
they did not bring those Measures forward—( Cheers )—but they
pet them off till February--(Cheers)—and it was not till the
month of Mewl that these 'measures Which the Noble Lord's
constituents at MancheSter mere so anxious about were.brought
fer.vard.—(Gheers.) Therefore; if there were any respousi-
hi i.y, he begged leave to say. that the bulk of the crime
• s nut to be, imputed to 'his side of dhe House. He (Lord
J. Russell) had not voted for any delay; he only wished that
t. Toe might lie allowed for the .due consideration of a question,
which. if carried, would not 'give that relief to the country
which the country had a right to expect; and which it was
necessary, on that account, they should .spend some time in
ca ~.sicterii,g. There was another point on which he would
y few words. It had been stated, that it would be
tt.vessary to institute some inquiry as to 'the original policy
:he expediton to Alfg,Lanistatio Ile (Lord J. P..) was fully
• onstble as a Member' of the late Government for that expedi-
te, and he did not wish in any degree to avoid an inquiry; but
,2'; it he recdllected that at the time the late Government laid
sei toe table of the House, when the expedition had taken place,
yers which they thought sufficient, to justify them, the
.;7,.,ithers of the Opposition were then very vigilant in watching
h !policy of the Government, and they brought forward mo-
t tot, so it h respect tO Canada and China, but they did not make
smiler indication with respect to the expedition to
A ..hehanistan.—( Hear, hear.) Bat, if it should be made
iri.::t.ter of future discussion, he-only asked that not only those
papers immediately referring to the matter, but that
no. full and entire caie, as contained in the documents
in the Foreign-offlee, would he laid before the House,
:old that Parlituneut would be afforded an opportunity
o considering them.—( Year.) He need not say further with
•--poet toltie Noble Friend, Lord Auckland, than that it was
ossible 'for any man to give greater attention to the
;.t!'ttirs of his Government ; and after all the deliberation
welch the Governhahnt, of which he (Lord J. Russell) was
a lit mber, had given to all the occurrences, they could come
ie.!). to this' conclusion, fhat the expedition was necessary to
tles preservationnf our empire in India, and he (Lord John
• liiissell) always be ready to identify himself with the
I o;iey of Lerd Auckland.
Sir J. HOBITOUSE wag • not prepared to take part in a
debate upon the poliey of the late Government in East Indian
etahi. Ile could only -say• -with his Noble Friend that he
weuld not shrink, and that the, Governmeut of which he had
L. en a member would not 'shrink, froin the responsibility of
I. Auckland's policy. But be thought that it would be more
cw.zvet•ient for the House of COmmens to take another
ce.s,eei©n of discussing this question;'-when it would be possible-
-te give it a full and fair discussion.-e( Hear.) He thought that
lee late Government would be able to show that Lord Auck-
leiel was fully borne out in the conduct which he had pursuerl,
:see that he would have betrayed his ditty, not only to the In-
eiee Government, but to the Government of this country, if ,
h: had taken any other course.—( Cheers.)
Mr. hIARK PHILIPS had, never sought to protract a
debate from factious motives.. Ho had been . re-
. tnreed to. that House by a majority considerably greater
then any Conservative candidate for the Borough of
hianchester could procure. His constituents would not
ohject to theit- fair share of the public burdens. If re-
c urse must be had to an income tax, it behoved the
llonse to piotect the people against any farther tax on atticars
c.!. consumption. Ile had looked forward with great •auxiety to
settlement of the questions pending between this country
Rod the Brazils, and he saw nothing in the propositiotis ema-
nating from her Majesty's Government by which those,citfle-
rettees could be placed on a more satisfactory hails; he should,
• :to far as the income tax was concerned, give his conscientious
oppo.tit ion to the plan of the Right Hon. Baronet.
.ilr. LAI3OUGIIE4E was understood to put a question in
u'fr renc3 to a charge made by the Noble Lord, the Meraber for
S-pith Leitetthire, that that penilemen on this side of the House
• lied obstructed the progress of the taeiff ?
eir. R. PEEL•sa d he wished to void, as much as possible,
,'011.• any promise to which he could not adhere. He held
the tariff in his hand, and it had gone to the printer. When
it came on ferreclisetisston he felt confident that Hon. Gentle-
nen opposite would hot throw any obstruction in its way other
than what'teight arise from 'a fair discussion of it., The House
eveukl iiicuss the propositions with a deep sense that iu the
nneahtiine'the "counteY was kept in a state of depression and
emeertainty on account of the discussion. There was no wish fur
eiretipitation, but while it received a ftill consideration, he
etested that the other side of the lelouse would not throw in its
y • any unnecessary obstruction:
Lord F. EGERTON said, he had been quite misunderstood.
H' had not meant to charge Hon. Gentlemen with any such
peweeding. He had stated that to protract the discussion be-
e eed the limits absolutely necessary, would be a crime of the
ercatest magnitude, but he had not the smallest intention of
wherging Hon. Gentlemen with participa'ing in it.
:Sir It PEEL said there might be three or four articles,
.I.to. they were not important ones, on which it might be de •
..eble to tahe the opinion of the trades, awl this might justsfy
eeete alteration
Mr. C. .IeOWELL having given carefdl:attention to the
;income tax dr& Itight 1-lon. Baronet; and seeing its.koquisi-
terial 'nature, while he had failed in showing a necessity for it,
he must give his vote against it.
Mr. BLE WITT rose amidst toed cries of " Question." He
voiild only trouble the Flouse with one word of explanation.
Lie had thought that he was perfectly in order in acting as he,
I,a .t done. As • soon as the Spealier had called him
• to order, he had submitted, and if he had been guilty
ee any breach of order, he begged to apo!ogise to the House
the his conduct.—( Cheers.)
The question fur the adjournment cf the debate was then put
:mei carried.
The Fisheries (Ireland) Bill was read a second time.
• INDEAINITY • BILL.
The Ihdemnity Bill was read a third time and passed.
' TURNPIKE ROADS' BILL.

Alr. AIANNEWS SUTTON. brought in the Turnpike
It,,acis' Dill, which wa3 read a first time.
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of and the
I.J.use Adjourned at Half-past One o'Clock.

On Saturday
mor •. - ~. i • --- ...
:Kin(rstOn-upfm-Tham niiig a Itatat accident, occurred at
A boat, loaded with gravel, in
which were John and ;as'
..„„ b„,,,i Jones,
was James Blake; father and son, and another
Pittnn the b•tat, wlll4l;;arn7 'IIo the riveL., and near Thatnes
the three men were irnra4sedeavi'Yladen, suddenly sunk, and.
.vas 4 s:niggle',
Jones
sucreried,.6.fter a
sev,rin th , water. John Blake and
I ut tfie son, latnes Blake, in getting to shore,
eirßWa into the eddy caused by the 't
' 56 forturtate, as he was
hsain2ti,:ii.,,r Lust, and did not
tri,e again. Lord .i)e Roos, who
Ditton, was standing upon his lawn at' erce at :Eames
he time of the acci- •
,iletit, and when he saw what happened, ht,.
tuirilmediately jumped
the hope el rescuing
into the water, and dived several times in
the unfortunate youth, who hail sunk with e boat, but his
gallant and humane endeavours were unsuece:sful • he did
liowevei re:inquish his attempt until all hope of ,a'sti I, rot
!.f the youth was abandoned. The IA (ly was pelted 'lg the tife
short
up abou
two hours afterwards.
The Scotoriaii of Saturday has the, followinp•
extract of a letter from India, which we subjoins with Out co
7t-n, at :-.:" Bellary, 22d Feb., IB42.—Wild has forced his wraa;
-t,) Ali-Musjeed with tke four native regiments ; I .ii -
... ice.e y
trust he4aay save Sale,,and not be himself cutup:"
VESSy:Ls • SPOKEN IV/TlL—London, Java, to Table
13a.,, Der.. 15, hat. 24 S., Jon, 33 B. ; Anna, Catharina,
Batavia to Amsterdam,Jan.2, lat. 34, lon. 28; Glanmire,
4,. hit, 34, lon. 24 ; Veremingitia, Batavia, to Amsterdam,
4 , lat. 35 ; henry Davidson, London to Bombay ; Tho-
tAaa Coutts, London to China, Feb. 13, lat. 1 S. lon. 21
s‘,7etral,larhara, Mauritius to Liverpool (the master and
1 of the crew laid up with scurvy). 7th ult., lat. 33,
'°. 33; Gladiator, Londonto New York, 26. 1;:t. 45.
1 m. 22 ; 'Marquis Bute, Cardiff to New York, 26, lat,
48, lon. 17, by the Watkins, arrived of Scilly.