The Sun.
London, England, 1829-02-07 00:00:00

P A RTNERSII I I'S DISSOLVED.

Samuel Whitehouse and John Stadia' Stow, London,
Isaac liu hhoard and William Incliboard,.Knarusborough,
Yorkshire, grocers.. . •
Stephen Jennings and J.tmes .11.furgatroy‘l, Roelkle,
Lancashire, corn-millers. . -
William James Reynolds, William Purehas, and John
Charles Reynolds, Fownhope, Herefordshire, brewers.
Samuel Lightfoot awl John Dodd, Oxford-street, AN-
dlcsex, apothecaries.
James Bateman and Thomas Beale, Southampton -build-
jogs, Chain-cry-lane, fluorite) s.
George Agg and Wingfield Gec,• ,Overlinry, Worcester.
shire, silk-throwsters.
Henry Holdsworth and William Roe, Nottingham, lace_
dealers.

Henry James, jun., and William Miller, Stratton, Corn-
. -.-
wall, ironmongers.
-John Gregson, Daniel Edle.ston, and Jobwr Mitchell,
Blackburn, Lancashire, cotton-manufacturers.

Hekworth and George John Boyce, Theobald's-
row!, Middlesex, pawnbrokers. •
Michael Larkin and Blows Evans, Blackwall, Middlesex,
block-makers.

Thomas Keeler and Edward Kt:der, Covent-gaMcn,
Middlesex, linen-drapers.
Amos Linney and Benjamin Utton, Jermyn-street, Mid-
dlesex, tailors.

John Smith, John Spiller, and William Pridham, Stoke-
Damerel, Devonshire, porter-brewers.
Thomas Bayley and William Wild, Macclesfield,
silL-
manufacturers.

Josiah Burkinshaw, Beverley, Yorkshire, and Edward
Hannah, Louth, Lincolnshire, bone-merchants.
John Smith and John Kennedy, New Quebec-street,
Portman-square, Middlesex, tailors. •
Jan Blathwayt and William Thomas, Shoreditch, sur-
geon s.
Thomas Dedman and Dick Clifford Dedinan, Hammer-
smith, market-gardeners. .
Benjamin Waterhouse, Peter Wright, Mark Britland,
and David Scott, Sheffield, file-manufacturers..

Henry Smith and Charles Hemsworth, West Stockwitli,
'Alistertoti, Nottinghamshire, rope-makers. •
William Chapman and Thomas Fairelough, Liverpol,
timber-merchants.
Jesse Gooldsmith, sen., and Jesse Gouldsmith, jun.,
Old-Jewry, London, warehousemen.
George Hounsfield and John Haxworth, ;ilieffield, sur-
geons.

ROYAL ACADEMY PUPILS AT THE

ENGLISH OPERA HOUSE.

On Thursday the Pupils of the Royal Academy of Music
gave the Il Fanatic° per la Musica, an Opera Buffa ; the
Music by MEYER., SACCIIITa, WEICL, and others, in short,
a compilation or patch-work ; much of it exceedingly bald
and ineffective, and, as a whole somewhat unsatisfying ; of
one thing we feel very certain, viz. that a more inappro-
priate selection for the Pupils, for whose particular good
these exhibitions have been given, could hardly have been
devised. It is exceedingly to be deplored that their last
performance fur the season should have been in an Opera
that has little more than one purpose, that of throwing
forward prominently one character or person, at a sacrifice,
which the diffusive nature and true intent of the Institu-
tDioannisEtoitNteits to utterly variance
amongstarianc
euitht.he It is innutobsesirbleeffilris Sig
ad-
mirers any more sincere than ourselves, particularly too
in the character alluded to ‘,‘ then which we can hardly
conceive aught much more perfect of its kind. Yet should
we consider ourselves deserving the severest reprehension,
could we be thought capable of upholding a system that is
fraught with any thing but advantage, or even liberal
feeling, toward the Royal Academy of Music. We, therefore,
protet against the selection of the II Fanatico, as absurd to
the last degree in almostevery respect. The music, with one or
two exceptions, is poor " wishy-washy " trash. The cha-
racters, with the one exception, mere automata, to assist
the working of the principal puppet—the Fanatic°.
The audience, and likewise the pupils, appeared to feei some
such sensation, for, in comparison with the former exhibi-
tions, it proved " flat, stale, and unprofitable." If, as we
suspect, the suggesting and pet sieing in this injudicious
upon
ntlie i
the
t selectionhie rest
directors
of
his understanding any more than his generewity. The
nSsigtinteotri,en in, d
me,sepi tc of
cannot. thee °I.
t n
Royal Academy of Music, under the immediate- pati‘rlage
e
of his Majesty, has surely nobler purposes to attain, than
the gratification of any individual's vanity, be he who or
what he may. To even the most experienced veterans in
the art, it is well known to be a most difficult, as well
as unprofitable task, to merely support, or to " keep
up," as it is technically termed, one particular
character, and our astonishment is, therefore, pro-
portionahly great, at the manner in which tile pupils
" held up the Signor's train," who received the only
honour of an encore during the evening, in SACCIIINI'S
celebrated Aria, of a toad composer rehearsing his new
composition. The Finale, which created so great a sen-
sation last summer in the same Theatre, to its own Opera,
" The Pirate of Genoa," is also placed in Signor DE
BEGNIS' selection for the Fanatic°. We have only to
remark, (and we do it with some surprize,) it was by no
means so effective upon the present occasion, as in the
management of Mr. G. PENSON, who seldom failed to re-
ceive the singular honour of a general encore, which, in a
Finale, is not a little remarkable. Miss CHILDE. sung one
Aria very charmingly, and SEGUIN was extremely suc-
cessful in a somewhat clever bass song. The Orchestra
appeared to great advantage whilst in the performance of
good music; but, in truth, some of the compositions were
so vapid and inane, no band, however admirable, could
make them palatable. We are amongst those who heartily
do desire to witness the Institution flourish to the utmost,
feeling thus, we cannot restrain the expression of a hope,
that an arrangement, in every respect so exclusive and
narrow in principle, will never again be permitted by the
noble directors of this NATIONAL SCHOOL OF Music.

Two countrymen the other day walking through
the streets, were accosted by a flash at, with " Where are
you two fools going?" "'Till we meet a third," quickly
replied one of them, turning on his heel, and burst—
ing into a loud laugh at the disconcerted city prig.--,
Brighton Gazelle.

In the Insolvent Debtors' Court yesterday a
man, named John Stroud, was sentenced to six months'
imprisonment, for having sold off his property and expend-
ed the produce, instead of paying his creditors any portion
of their demands.

On the night of Thursday last Arundel Castle
was entered, and 33 pheasants, 14 laares, four woodcocks,
and one partridge stolen from one of the larders. The
thieves have been detected, and proved to be two men of
the names of Harwood and Rogers; the latter, who had
but very lately been discharged from gaol, where he was
confined for poaching, has absconded. Most of the game
was found concealed in a hovel near the town.—Brighton
Gazette.

DISAPPOINTMENT.—A respectable and in-
teresting girl, the daughter of a wealthy yeoman of Shepton-
Mallet, was last week engaged to link her fortunes with
those of a spruce tanner of hides, resident in the neigh-
bourhood. The day was fixed for their union, the blest
hour arrived, the hungry guests were anxiously Waiting to
attack the good things provided by the custom of the cere-
- cony ; but lo! the hero of the feast was missing ; and the
:roved of friends, after having exhausted their imaginations
in vain to account for the singular disappe•trance, were
comforted by a disclosure of the following honourable con-
duct of the faithless swain. It appears that the tanner,
confident that the fortune cif his intended- was great, good,
and Secure, delayed. enteting into the ,particulars of
the subject until the last moment, when beAvas thunder-
struck on being informed, that the golden ports ioPtiattine
were closed until the death of the bride's faller, and a hasty
glance convinced him that his bargain was worth 'forty
years' purchase. Certain misgivings and re,olutions then
seized him, and he preferred an inglorious retreat, to enjoy-
ing the lovely, yet pennyless, charms of the exrecting bride.
Bath Chronicle.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

truth, that Association formed a real concurrent Govern•
ment in that country. Who could deny it? That body
exhibited a government in the form of the purest species of
HOUSE OF COMMONS—(LAST NIGHT). democracy—with an established church connected with it
in a manner in which no other church had ever been con-
The SPEAKER took the Chair a few minutes before
nected—with a separate array of tax-gatherers--a
ocon-
o'clock, at which time there were about fifty Mein-
plete system of finance—a perfectly organized collection of
hers present. j taxes, and an universal distribution of its agents and
Mr. Alderman WOOD moved for a variety of Returns,
missionaries throughout the country, During the con.
relative to the quantity of Malt used in Beer, and also re- !
brewed since 1 motions in the reign of Charles 1., there existed
dative to the quantity of intermediate Beer,
two concurrent Governments in this country, and at
the passing of the Act upon that subject.
. this moment two such Governments existed in Ire-
Mr. DOWNIE presented a petition from the Royal
I land. The result in the time of Charles was the
borough of Stilling against any further concessions to the
collision of the two contending parties ; and the con-
Roman Catholics.—Ordered to lie on the table. .
sequeecee of the two Governments existing in our clay
r 1 r. PENN presented a similar petition from a village
in Ireland would he nothing less than civil war, if some-
in I I untingdonshire.
Mr. H. DAVIS said he was instructed to present a thing were not done to avert it.—(Hear.) —lt was his de-
gemcided opinion, that his Majesty's Ministers would deserve
petition, moat numerous and respectably signed,
the inhabitants of the parish of St. James, in the city impeachment if they did not now come forward and do
something to avert such frightful consequences. lie (Mr.
of Bristol, and likewise from several other parishes in the
Leslie Foste: ) would be decidedly opposed to a measure of
sate city, all of which were signed by the Minister and
concession, if such had been introduced by the Hon. Bart.
Churchwardens. The petition prayed that no further
concessions might be made to the Roman Catholics. opposite (the Member fin- Westminster), upon the basmis of
Mr. DAVENPORT presented a petition from the I which the Hon. Baronet's propositions had been iinitnritily
Catholics of Stockport, praying the House to grant Einan-
founded. He trusted that the measure about to be intro-
cipition.—Ordeted to lea laid ou the table. deiced by his Majesty's Government would be essentially
A similar petition was presented from the Roman Ca- different from such propositions, and that instead of being a
tholies of Heythorp. Catholic, it would be a Protestant plan of concession.—
Mr. W. WHITMORE gave notice of a motion for the (Hear, and a laugh.)—When he looked at the Members
who composed the present Cabinet, he felt assured that
10th inst., relating to the exports and imports of this
oountry with the West Indiea. such would be the nature of the intended measure ; and
Sit T. LETUBRIDGE said he had the honour, al- though he differed from some of theta in reference to this
question, be had the greatest confidence in all of them.—
wnt at the first hour of the session, to present a petition
Laughter.)—He should not at present enter upon the sub-
against granting emancipation to the Catholics, and he
certainly could assure the House that it was not the last ject of securities ; but lie would say a word as to the
headier, principle of the measure. He would say that any
of a similar nature, that he should have to pi etent, there
measure emanating from the Government, in order to
were several others in the course of signature in the same
meet with his (
wounty (Somerset), and he hoped they would soon be for-Mr. L. Foster'll) concurrence and support,
must be founded upon a distinctly Protestant, and not on
evarded, for we were perhaps at the eleventh hour.
a Catholic basis. I-le wench] admit the lay members of
The petition, which was from a village in Somersetshire,
was thou brought up, and ordered to be laid en the table. the Catholic communion to full liberty and seats in that
House, they burying their religion in their breasts; but lie
The SOLICITOR GENERAL presented a petition would say that they should leave their church at the door,
and he would have time doors locked against her.—(Much
from the Dean and Chapter of Chester, against any further
laughter, and cries of hear.)—He would appeal to Hon.
concessions to the Roman Catholics. He had been, he
said, always opposed to the Claims of the Catholics, and Members, whether the experience of all history did not
lie would still oppose them if he thought they could be show that the discipline of the Catholic chuich was an in-
he
longer safely withheld, but circumstances hall arisen gredient totally incompatible with the British constitution.
which made it incumbent upon Ministers to take the If they let the Catholic church into this House, she might
matter deliberately into their consideration, and he thought in time first instance be admitted with good humour, but
in a short time they would find her a very troublesome
that his own time would be more usefully spent in framing
companion. —(A laugh, and cries of "Hear.")—Again be
smell securities, as would prevent the measure from being
would contend, that time measure about to be introduced
injurious to the Established Church than in a fruitless op-
by the Government must be founded upon a Protestant
position.—(Cheers )...-The petition was then laid on the -
table. basis. Sure be was, that its failure or its success would
entirely depend upon its accordance or its non-accordance
Mr. Secretary PEEL gave notice, that on Tuesday
with that principle.—(Hear.)—Hon. Members must be
next be would bring in a Bill for suppressing Illegal As
aware that a strong Protestant feeling pervaded the popu-
sociatioue in Ireland.
Sir W. CLINTON presented a petition from Newark country
of this country. There were many persons in this
country who from their childhood were impressed with the
in favour of ooncessions to the Roman Catholics.
idea th et the Roman Catholic religion was a vitally erro-
Mr. STEWART gave notice that he should on the
menus system. True it was, that some Hon. Gentleman
ith of May bring forward a motion on the state of the
might consider all religions equally good, and there was
Irish Poor, with a view to their receiving parochial relief.
another class who considered all religions equally indiffer-
Mr. S. RICE presented several petitions from parishes
eat. It might suit the tastes of such individuals to see two
in Limerick in favour of Catholic concessions.
churches essentially opposed to each other, co-existing and
Colonel CHICHESTER presented a similar petition
established together, that they might thus, as it were, nett-
from the inhabitants of Wexford.
Mr. M. A. TAYLOR begged to ask the Right Hun, Geri- tralize each other. But such was not the wish of the
people of England, nor was such his (Mr. Leslie Foster's)
tlersten, (Mr. Sateotary Peel), whom be saw in his place,
el'in?'" The Right Hon. Gentleman, in conclusion, re-
a question relative to the Court of Chancery. He had
prated his conviction, that it was absolutely necessary fur
given notice of a motion upon the subject for Tuesday next,
his Majesty's Government to interpose, and do something
but that motion might be rendered unnecessary by an an-
to avert the consequences which would otherwise inevi-
ewer to the question. He wished to know whether any
eably result from the existing state of things in Ireland.
alteration was contemplated in the mode of transacting
Mr. G. DAWSON—Sir, in rising tie speak on this
business in that Court? subject, I must begin by saying, that I look upon the ile-
Air. Secretary PEEL said that the Lord Chaneellor
inteoe of last night as one of the happiest and most fortu-
woe impressed with the necessity of facilitating tne !mei-
nate events that has occurred within my recollection—as
that Court, and it was his intention to propose a
ness G. an event which will be written with peculiar honour on the
het oubject
Bill upon .. page of history. (Hear.) I look upon it as a circuen-
After a few words from Mr. BKOUGHAII, Mr. Teoloa
stance giving token of the dawning cf prosperity for Ire-
declared himself 5a..""41 f" the present. land, pow about to succeed a lone life of misery and 1 t 1
he Lad the honour of present-. ° '''' c
Mr. JOHN WOOL.' "id. edness. Wear, hear.) This being my feeling, I cannot
...titers of Liverpool, in favour
ing a petition from the De but ' but have the greatest pleasure in expressing my anticipation
assure,i the Ilouse it was
of Catholic emancipation, lie c0.."1d , , of that result which the decision of last night appears to
most numerously and respectably s.'"e", and the .Sentl° confirm. But while lam making :hie statement, I think
meats it contained rescued that body from the charge
the it right to allude in some degree to the coerse I myself
which last sessions bad been wade against theta at u have pursued on this question. (Hear, hear.) Tiering
time they obtained the repeal of the 'fest and -.4rlPrae the whole of last year I carefully abstained from taking
tion Acts; the charge he meant that of au indifferO:Oce any part in the debate oo this subject, from the conviction
to the claims of their suffering Roman Catholic brethren ; dal: the time was fast approaching when opposition to the
lie was persuaded the time had gone by when the sound
Catholic Claims rould no longer be cobtinued. (hear,
of No Popery had any terrors. This was only one of hear.) Thi conviction had been gradually arisen; in my
matte, petitions which would shortly be presented from mind, and the consequence was, that I had to struggle
Liverpool. with great difficulties. (Hear, hear.) The constitneuts
General GASCOYNE bore testimony to the great re- whom I represent, And the ties by which I ant otherwise
spectability of the petitioners, but he would inform the connected, ee-,
must oota leave induced me to pause long
Hun. Member that petitions of different nature would also
before I could 'make up my mind to do that which
be presented from Liverpool, when be should take an must in a great measure sever one rem those connec-
opportunity of stating his opinion on the subject. Lions. (Hear, hear.) All these things were operetiog in my
Mr. HUSKISSON was happy a petition in favour of mind at the time that I went to Ireland lei;t yeer, end I
talancipation had been presented by the Dissenters of be to state fully and fairly—hopleg that j shall receive 1
Liverpool ;Le could assure the House the petitioners were full etedit for what lam going to state—that i wept on '
meat respectable; this petition would clear them from the that occasiote ese Ireland in perfect ignorance of what were
charge of inconsistency ; it was clear they were not indif- the intentions of Gomninent in this respect.—(Hear,
ferent to the claims of the Roman Catholics, but lovers of hear. )—But when I got there, whet was it that I saw ? I
eivil and religious liberty, and he (Mr. Huskisson) would saw the country on the eve of coneelslew . I saw its insti-
support any measure of such a nature. It bad been said totions ready to give way—l saw that every kite woe in a ,
many Dissenters did not view the claims of the Catholics manner opposed to the very members of their .ow 4 AlWiii
favourably, and he was sorry to say be was induced to be- .—I saw that every thing was gradually creeping toovarde
lieve, from his own inquiries, that such was in some cases the brink of destrieceion—that party feeling was ragiag in
the feet ; but lie hoped that the great body did not wish every direction—that .Grand Juries and Magistrates, and
to exclude any of his Majesty's subjects from the benefits of in short, every one partook of Olt ;me spirit, and that it
the state. He was happy that Ministers were about to was impossible for things to go on as they were any longer.
introduce a Bill for the removal of the civil disabilities —(Hear, hear.)_When I arrived in the city of the peonty
eeetvr which the Catholics were suffering. It was almost which I represent, I found that the annual celebration ii.A
woven; fur bite to say, that he should at all times be anxi- honour of the siege was about ti teke place, and I was
one for the :xteasiari of zivil and religious liberty to all celled upon to attend it. But when I heard the se,nt,i-
classes of his Ms.;'4llty's subjects. ineots that were expressed there by thew who entterfoined
Lord JOWN RUSSELL mild assure the Right Hon. strong Protestant feelings—when I heard them almost go ,
Gentleman who had just s:..t down, that he was labouring the length of dwelling upon the destruction of the Ro-
under an error if he supposed the Dissenters gewally were man Catholics as et neeessary step, I could not, as an
indifferent on this great subject ; in a few clays lee should honest man, attend at that toeetiog, and encourage them
have the honour of presenting several petitions iu farrow of i to persevere in such persecution (cheers), Py in the enter-
Emancipation from that body. ! noment of feelings which I conceived must lead tp the d,a,
Mr. OTWAY CAVE brought up a petition from Bir- ' struotiooefthe country.—( Hear, hear, hear 0---iCoulds,ee
mingham in favour of civil and religious liberty. Laid on nothing ip eueie g course but the elements of a civil war,
the table. which only regeirod settle bold mischievous man to spring
Lord CLIVE then brought up the Report on the up, to foster into an ardent leleeg• j know, Sir, that I may
Address. be accused of being intimidated Ly A2e peeceedings of the
Sir T. LETHBRIDGE said that he should say but Cetholic Association; but I here boldly doay, that 1 had
a few words, and those few not in opposition to the further no silvan fear. How could I, when I well knew" that the
progress of the Address. He had been ever opposed to Catholic Aseeeineiern never Lad, and never can have, any
concession, because he could think of no measure power he Derry? piit I will confess that I bad a fear,
which could be productive of universal satiafeetion. a fear that lam not ;whitened to own—for I trust it is a
He had no hope that the results expected front the melee fear that every loyal man will ever e,t;itqpiu---,4 am sure it
sure now in contemplation would be realized. While he is pee which must be entertained by nyeey piri,siiaii.,—!
said this, he was willing to admit that the settlement of feared to tee a civil war, and all its cnnsequencee; follow
the question, even though it should be settled in oppoti- such a state on:things (hear, hear, hear !) ; I feared to see
than to his own sentiments, was preferable to leaving human blood spilled ire the streets, and it seemed to me to
things in their present deplorable situation.—(Cheers.) be little short of such a cernotnination (hear!). Under
also LESLIE FOSTER would take care briefly, but thew circumstances I attended that Neeeing, and made the
freely, to express his sentimenta on this occasion ; his sea- speech 04 I did upon the Catholic Cialso. ldo not
timente Ite would declare freely, as lie snood perfectly un- pretend to take to myself the character of a prophet; hie;
trammelled from all connections which Mild produce the it does appear to me that the sentiments I then uttered are
smallest bias in dais judgment. He was neither an (Wive- at least consonant with comiooo Vie, and with A just
men nor a Brunswieker, and no political association what view of the subject —(kay, hear.)l4t was frpyi a eon-
ever had the smallest claim open kiln ; on the contrary, ,yeekin that the time was arrived for the esettleme,nO of thiie
since the formation of the Bruttstrie* Cbtbs, lie had stead- queo44. that I made that speech at Derry, and I did it
fatly refused to have any thing to do with them, and that with the del:N*444pp of following it up by the course I
refusal on his part hail subjected him to more eopleasant- shall pursue in my tog ,iee this House.--(Hear, hear.)—l
betas amongst his personal friends than it would befit Win ant glad that time sentiments I ti,it.e.t;! expressed prove to be
at present to detail to the House, The reasons which bad the sentiments which his Majesty's dwie,rm44 new enter •
induced him to adopt this line of conduct he should briefly Lain; /em glad that they think it right to adopt a ;0.1,i,4t
locution. From a period somewhat arktetenient to the for- of concilia4on tewards the Catholics, at the sante time re,
ittation of the Brunswick Associations, it bid become hie quiring those seenr;eiee which are necessary for time preset,.
(Mr, Leslie Foster's) settled opinion that there vaned an nation of Protestant Lestiiteetions. This eves my opinion
overpoweriog necessity for a permanent settlement a go, ;...,t that time, and I gave utteraocsc 449 ,4 i this now seems
question, as tbat such a settlement was now absolutely to he 4,..42 opinion of Government; and wleeOleer j. am con.
indispensable. He did not wish to cast blamne chose any nested ,w,itit 4a7 Government or not, they shah hue leo
persons, or on any .00erter, but it appeared to him NAL* warmest sopport.:-.41-Ltar, hear.)—l thought it necessary
etetny years past there bell !men no efficient, no teal Go- to Jai thus nepch, because I lee;ieeed it to be due to the
vernment in Ireland. He.reated the fault upon no person. Goveromeett end ,to myself.e--(IPOr) hear.)
(Loud kutgliter, and cries of ." Itea,t."),—On the contrary Mr. HUSKISSOY, in rising to trouldethe Haase whit
Circumstanced as the country was, Siot seeing the dif- a few words upon this irowertant,oeestion, coulel not re-
ferences of opinion which existed amoopt .the ffehnbers of frain, in the first instance, from eiwrenipg the feeling, of
the British Cabinet, no other result could have keep tax- delight and gratification with which be had lieinteed to Oho
peetecl,—(flear.)—lf an Administration could have law, Alorent, neat, and manly speech of the Right Hon. free-
hitherto procured, either entircio Catholic or Anti-Catlio- tIe.WP ,plan had just sat down.—(Cheers.)—The commu-
lie, then there might have existed a strong and vigorous nieatioa nehinti had been yesterday made to Parliament by
Government in Ireland. But circus Aced as this his Majesty's Govezonne., considered in all its bearings,
wintry had been, DO .Government for time e4toiDistra. was, in his (Mr. fluskisson'; en'oe;cn, the most important
Lion of its affairs eould have been selected solely Oele, i and the happiest event which had occurred ii;l.;:iie,ecauntry
one or other of those two different parties. It was neceo I isi4i.c.p the accession of the House of Brunswick to the themaree
Retry that the British Cabinet should carnbi,ce amongst its of these le4res.—(Cheers.)—Standing in this House, and
members, etatesinen able to wield the energies of the coun- I having had the hooeur of a seat in it since the first dawn-
try, but whose opinions differed on the subject of {'his ing of the Catholic elues.c,..„,, and anxious as he was for
question ; and it was impossible, under such circumstances, •tiib! success of that great question, 4 was with infinite de-
that their representative in Ireland could pursue it definite light 04 gratification that he found him; AlajesWa pnis-
plan or system of Government. (Hear.) Latterly the tens recomnaensi;eg it to the deliberate consideration et the
Government of Ireland had determined upon giving "4 t rlouse, apd annoppeieg their intermtion of bringing
triumph to neither party :" but he was sorry to say that ,th,e eyestion forward as a Goye,q.ment question, and
this effort_ on the part of the Irish Government had heeu of course ,Z ring upon it 41 that just ipptnce and
only attended by a triumph of both parties over its own means of perstenOep which belonged to the execiatioe
, weakness. In fact, the Irish Clovernment had thus exhi- power of this,country.—(4;pl cheers.)—lt had'surpiised
bited a state of complete paralysis—of deafness to Protcs- him (Mr. Huskissoe), es it hat!, surprised many of his
Cant remonetrance on the one hand, and ',liminess to Ca- friends, that the person who now proposed tine measure to
tholie violence on the other. In this condition of things, the House, so pregnant with the most beneficial results to
the real power and authority of Government tell into the the country at large, was lie, who, from his first appearance
hands of the Catholic Association ; and, to speak the in public life, WO felt it to he,kis cw?seigptious duty to give

a sincere, a fair and honourable, but at the same. time an
uncompromising and decided opposition to this question.
(Hear. hear.)—His Right Hon. Friend, the Member for
the University of Oxford, in his speech last night, had
very properly abstained from going into any explanation of
the details of the great measure now in his hands. But
looking at the communication from the Throne, and the
sentiments expressed by his Right Hon. Friend, he (Mr.
Humkisson) was satisfied that it was a measure of grace.
As such lie trusted it would be received by those for whose
benefit it was proposed; and he further hoped tkat it would
he ample, liberal, and adequate for the great and important
purpose for which it was intended.—(Cheers.)—lt was
for such a purpose and with such a view that he (Mr.
Huskisson), and those who voted with him on this ques-
tion, had uniformly recommended this measure, with a
view (to use the words of the resolution which they had
so frequently carried in that House) " to 'strengthen the
connection between the two countries, to increase the
stability and security of the Protestant establishment,
and to diffuse happiness and concord amongst all classes
of his Majesty's subjects." He confidently hoped
that such results would fellow from tke measure
now about to be proposed to the consideration of
the House. At all events, it was a subject for congra-
tulation, that the all over-powering force of truth and
justice, in this great intellectual struggle, had at
length prevailed over what he might be now allowed to call
long-cherished prejudices and errors. (Cheers.) In the
contest, which be hoped was now about to be concluded for
ever, they had been long engaged. It bad been a severe
and a-protracted contest. But every day and every hour
during which they had been occupied in this struggle, the
cause had been expanding in strength, in proportion as it
was growing in importance ; till at last it was admitted it
could no longer be left unsettled, without endangering the
safety of the country—nay, until it was clearly admitted
that all further opposition to it must be unavailing.—
' (Hear.) In connexion with this subject, he could not but
congratulate his Noble Friend (Lord J. Russell) on the
gratifying fact, that the generous principles of liberality,
' that the true principles of religious liberty, were making a
great and rapid progress in this country, and that, too, in
quarters where such an event was to be least expected.—
(Hear.) Why, not a year had elapsed, since his Right
lion. Friend, the Secretary of State for the Home Depart-
ment, said, in his place in that House, that he, 'fat' one,
either in power or out of power, would strenuously refuse
all and every concession to the Protestant Dissenters.—
(Hear.) But in the last Session of Parliament, —and he
stated it to his Right Hon. Friend's credit,—lie assumed
the character of a conciliating moderator with respect
to that very question (Hear, hear); and, with - his sin-
cere and effectual assistance, an arrangement was made
that was satisfactory to all parties concerned in the opera-
tion of the Test and Corporation Acts. (Hear, hear.)—
He hoped that, in the present instance, his Right
Hon. Friend would he able, in the same manner, with
equal success—he was sure that he would act with equal
sincerity—to advise the repeal of all penal laws and of all
disqualifying statutes which militate against Roman Ca-
tholic subjects—(hear)—and that he would devise such
measures as would perfectly satisfy those for whom they
were intended, whilst they soothed and calmed any feelings
of apprehension that might be entertained by others,—
(Hear.)—The whole of the reasons, as stated by his Right
lion. Friend on the preceding evening, which had induced
Government to undertake the consideration of this ques-
tion, were of the greatest importance. Whether, with re-
ference to the inconvenience and danger of a continued
conflict of opinion between the two• Houses of Parliament,
or the baneful effects that must flow from a division of
sentiments in his Majesty's Councils, or the mischiefs
which must be generated by differences in the Irish Go-
vernment, arising out of dissentions here; and lastly, the
important consideration, whether it was possible to form a
Cabinet nn the basis of permanent resistance to the Roman
Catholics—all these points were brought forward wills
clearness by his Right Hon. Friend, arid, in his reasoning
on them, as well as in the correctness of the facts adduced,
he thought they must all concur. What his Right Hon.
Friend had said was perfectly in unison with the view
which he (Mr. Huskisson) entertained with reference to
the Catholic question. There was nothing new in what had
this evening fallen from the Hon. Member for Logth, when •
he spoke of the Catholic Association. Speeches were
delivered last year by the Hon. Member for Kerry, and by
the Solicitor-General for Ireland, containing all the infe-
rences which the Hon. Member for Louth Lad drawn.
The words were not precisely the same, but his Hon.
Friends had put the same arguments, with respect to the
influence of the Catholic Association: the dariger of its
existence to the country was by them most strongly urged,
and the real remedy was clearly pointed out. Now why
did he refer to these things 7 Why, merely to observe,
that these represenSatione lowing mefde a proper impression
on the minds of Ministers, which 44 been hitherto op,
posed to any eettlement of these claims, there were the
strongest grounds for believing that they sincerely meant to
arrange this long-debated question. Verlmpe lie might re-
gret that those impressions had not operated sooner on the
mind ef hie Right Hon. Friend. (Hear, hear.) fie did
not meet} to say this with any of that invidious feel-
ing which some geotlernen might iiteriinste to the obser-
vation ; he made the remark merely with reference to
the importer= of this question ; for he would say, that if
these impressions had Leen fortunately entertained before
the present time, it might have been poseilde that a la-
Mented friend of his, whose unceasing exertions, OW
,eplenstid elsiqeence, and whose brilliant talents had greatly
centrihnted to forward ,any} }Mature this most interesting
question, Moth in rarlietneet end in the public mind,
might perhaps, in the dispepeatinn of e just Proyidence,
have been spared to witness the triomph of his lahours;
(hear, hear)—might have been enabled in that House to
discharge those duties, in bringing his labours to a
close which eines devolved on his Right Hon. Friend.
(Hear.) He hoped his lien. Friend would not mistake
the feeling under which he ep4e. He was OWL after
statement which he had hierd his Right lion. Friend
' melee hsee year---,41P1 IP the sincerity of which, he, for
one, entirely believed—he was ewe, softer the t4PnlllnePte
which his Right Hon. Friend then expressed, that he mnst
have undergone a most painful straggle between Pwq
personal feelings and the feelings of duty to his SffereigP
and to 'tie country, before he determined to pursue the
pewee which by h4Y adopted. In taking such a step, his
Right Hon. Friend lead, no dquht, made a great public
sacrifice; and lie felt convinced that hie R;glit I on. Friend
could not believe that he had brought for'war'd thin tgllil;
from any unkind or uncourteous motive. Placed, hew-
eyeri as he was, before the House, be could not controul
sips es:pis:Fe:en of his feeling.—(Hear.)—He looked for-
ward to the fiLterse wieh confidence ; and he entertained
the most sanguine assuranceifiat'ilse'iseeit resi.;:lts sywel4 Lw
produced by the contemplated concessions. He wielied
not to allude farther to what had gone by, except to state
hie regret that his Right Hon. Friend had not, at an ear-
)ier nes.sed, adopted the system which lie now recom-
meatier). Tl!,e j f on. Nene* for Louth had eeial that he
was very much disposed to support yiet*s 'on this sidiject
which he did not lowing:ly nphold in that Heeee 110
he was content to do this from the crin4deisce 4)
pi those who were placed at the head of the Govern-
ment, se. thefr ardent feelings for the welfare of the Pro-
testant eetehliehment )e.e; Jim to think that it was better to
place the eitteetion in their hands than in shaS of as other
person who might desire to bring foeward this meastire of
possecespism. 4e was well aware of the warm attachment
which was felt hy Friend in another s:liee for the
established religion; be knew that 11is Noble Friend felt thF
strongest desire to insure the saleti of chat i•eliOnn';•
while he admitted this, be must claim, for his Right Doti.
Friend now no inure and for himself, humble individual as
be great as sincere, as powerful an attachment to
the Protestantclitsreb as izny napisibfie of the eetahliebinent
could posei6ly feel,-er(flear,)e-eAnd, atnenget other reasons,
it was from a firm conviction, thgt thug eetalilielledlintitu-
tions of the country would lie more securely staaisteined by
agreeing to these concessions than by opposing them, that
lie siappeseted this question.—(Hear.)—When he before
stated his sentimetsis sees Os subject, he had observed, that,
while he was warmly 'atiaileti- to iii;te ratholic cause, he
dissented from the tenets of the Catholic'rejigion. ;Stich
wassi,..; Lis feeling ; but he conceived that inleglilating on
Ellis qUestici,it the y bassi nothing to do with those tenets or
doctrinos. But et 'aimeari'td that ssithin a very short time
elf,e sseisets of theHeiman' Cathol.ic Church had eere,..q.
to be regarded by many gentleineri ai?ith' that horror
which they heretofore exCitedee,ttey 'eeenieri to have been
suddenly converted.—(Hear, and a laugh.Y.-.s(je Ofe'.
Huskisson) could only attribute to some natural cause—to
some strange influence of the atmosphere not well under-
e eseeed—the very numerous and important conversions that
had ilk'4ia place eissee ;hat day week.—(Laughter.)—He
bad no doubt, however, that ore 45y 91 0;:;r they should
have some better explanation of the cause which produced
such extraordinary effects. He had no doubt that the im-
partial pen of history would do justice to the subject.
! (trce:, hear.)—lt was not for him, however, to do other-
`wise at Allier incesseet than, in the true spirit of that bene-
volent 'syetenV Whieli'set 'them the eeample anti afforded
them the precept; CO receieeiVith pleiNtire`theek e.onveisa,
who were now about to assist in doing that Which ought
to have done years ago, and which, if now effected,
would' be of incalculable te,eefit to the whole empire.—
, (Hear.).—Actuated by these feelings, he w 05.14, meet cor-
dially, give his support to every•measure 'of concession
whiCh might be introduced by Ministers. There' as one
point connected with this subject to which he could wish

to call the attention of the Misuse. Ire did not admit, as
was alleged in the Speech, that the Catholissociation
was the cause of keeping alive the discord and
which now prevailed-in•lreland:' In speaking of that As-
sociation, he wished not to be mistaken. He admitted, in
the terms of the• King's Speech, that the Catholic Associa-
tion was inconsistent with the Constitution—that it was
usurping the power of the Government; he felt that it was
a society which, by preserving the-peace of Ireland under
peculiar circumstances, naturally led the mind to consider
the great degree of mischief which it might produce under
circumstances of a -different nature. But when they
spoke of its creating and keeping up the which pre-
vailed in Ireland, lie must deny-the correctness of the as-
sertion. He would contend that the Association was only
evidence of the cause of but was not the cause it-
self. (Hear, hear.) To use an eloquent expression of a
Noble Lord (Plunkett) in another place, " It is the spawn
of our own wrong." (Hear, hear.) Then he would say,
relieve the Catholics from their disabilities, and leave the
Association to expire, as Le (Mr. Iluskisson) thought it
would expire, from the want of any ground or pretext upon
which it could be supported. (Hear.) He, however,
would not object to a measure being brought in relative to
the Association, in conformity with the recommendation
from the Throne, if it were at the same time accompanied
by a Bill for the effectual relief of the Roman Catholics.
(Hear.) With respect to other parts of the speech, he
feared that he should be wearying the attention and ex-
hausting the patience of the House if he went through them,
though they were well worthy of observation. So far as eon-
cerned the steps taken with respect to Greece, he entirely
concurred in every word contained in the speech. It appeared
to him that all the measures which had been pursued in the
east of Europe hail for their object the furtherance of the
treaty of the 6th of July—a treaty entered into in a
spirit the most disinterested, for the purpose of preventing
the farther effusion of blood and of restoring peace to
that quarter of the world. Perhaps he might be justified
in pointing out a difference between the manner in which
the blockade of the Dardanelles was now mentioned, and
that in which it was noticed in the speech from the throne
at the close of the last Session of Parliament. In the lat-
ter it was stated that the Emperor of Russia had con-
sented to waive his rights as a belligerent power in the
Mediterranean sea. Now he did not know whether this
word " consent" was to<be taken as implying that a for-
mal application had beau made to the Emperor of Russia,
—that he had been called on to waive those belligerent
rights,—and that a regular negociation had thereupon
taken place, which ended in his conceding the point; but
he was sure that at the tune it was so thought, and was
so represented to the public ; and it was considered as a
great proof of the talents of his Majesty's Government that
they had managed the affairs so ably. Now, in the pre-
sent Speech it is set forth, that his Majesty of Russia "has
considered it necessary to resume the exercise of his belli-
gerent rights in the Mediterranean." Now he thought his
Majesty had no right to do so without the consent of those
parties who, six months ago, were the occasion of his
waving his rights. The point, perhaps, might not in-
trinsically, be very important; but it was material that
they should understand that there was no departure
front those forms which are requisite in the trans..
actions between two parties acting in support of a
common object. With respect to Portugal, he confessed
that the language of the Address and of the Speech gave
him considerable concern. He could not take on him to
say what were the existing relations between this country
and Portugal ; but this he know, that in judging merely
from appearances he cool., not, in this view of the subject,
reconcile what had passed and was passing in Portugal,
with that which was due to the honour and dignity of this
country, or to the ancient connection which subsisted be-
tween Portugal and England. (Hear, hear.) lie would
not attempt to force a premature discussion on this subject.
Doobtlees 4 full and satisfactory explanation would he
given, and certainly he should be delighted to hear it ; be-
cause he could assure the Government, that very strong
feelings existed throughout Europe on the conduct pursued
here towards Portugal. It was expected that Eagland
would have acted very differently with respect to the person
now on the throne of Portugal, which throne he had
ascended by one of the foulest usurpations ever known.
(hear, hoar); and this was felt the more strongly, because
It was by the interventiou of England that the trust so
abused had been put into his hands. (Hear, hear.) He
did not mean to press this topic further, but he hoped that
for the honour and dignity of the Crown and reputation
of the country the affair would be fully and satisfactorily
,ezplain.4 Ministers might he placed in circumstances of
444:0y they might be ahle to shpw that they had done
their duty, and yet they might, fer a season, have soffi-
cient reasons for withholding explanation ; but when the
proper time came the House had a right to expect that a
fell disclosure of circumstances would be made. With these
ebservatione he should cenelotle. Ile begged pardon for
having occupied their attention so long, and he Any,
sat down, feeling entire confidence ip the declaration
which had been made h 7 Ministers with reference to the
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Sir 4. NEWPORT said, whatever joy he might feel ill
finding that a cape to which he had alivays adhered, and
of which, during half a century, heihad been the firm advo-
cate, was TIQW likely to meet with that attention And to he
crowned with that success which it deserved, still he did
not rise to give expression to these feelings of pleasure.
His object in addressing the House was, as far as an
humbie hplividtial could du so, to offer hie advice to the
members of the Catholic Association, in the hope that that
advice would prove beneficial. He rose for the purpose
of urging his earnest entreaty en the body called the CA-
tholip that they would, Without waiting for
any legislative Acts whatever,:forthwithdissolve themselves.
—(Hear, hear.)—Their own good sense, the attachment
which they cherished for the success of the Catholic cause,
would, he hoped, show them the propriety of taking this
sten.—(Hear, hear,),..-tjv 4410 that they would 4t once
pa. an ind to any jealonsy on the part of their Protestant
cnuntrynien, and, by dissolving themselves, that they
would also relieve the GovernWnt from any necessity foi
hrlogiqg in it measure directed against their proceedings.
hear.)-7lt would give him the most heartfelt
satisfaction if they would adopt such a system, and he be-
lieved that they wotild adopt it.r-r,(ffeari hear.;—:He
thqnht they Would see the propriety of following this
course. He peed hardly say, that he felt most sincerely
gratified at what had occurred, and it would give him ex-
treme pleasure to afford his support to every measure
vhicli tended to ameliorate the condition of his Roman
felOw.sqhjecp. &it mat coritideneein the
Right Hon. Gentleman opposite, and in the Iloble Duke
in the other House ; and he hoped that what was done
for the Roman Catholics would not be done grudgingly or
sparingly, but in the full spirit of kindness
?.,Jr. 13. s73iivi said heentild 'state it '4 a Pnsitive fact
to the dover'fiM'eet,' that the OppOsition to this measure
was not so general as some individuais"siemed to iniagiue.
He was connected with a large and considerable e971i..,
and he could arm thq that many of the inhabil,
ants-Linengwbo their 'lives were opposed to Catholic
expressed themselves to Lehr;
tvillin 'to co-o rate to al 9Mitire wii $-.zior:i•ntnent
might-propose p. 'settle this meation by concessions accom-
panied with proper securities ; and they looked forward
with an anxiety to the time when Government would take
the•hnsiness in band,. Fur hie own cart, lie ti.c.ught the
svtisfaction of the adjustment of question would be
great and gesieral, he would almost say universal. It was
alsO to hint, on another account, a matter of most heart-
felt congratulation that the subject would soon ‘ci at
neat;' forit'had '1;104 Only c,reateilliblin 4.114
harrasrd f lit 'proceedings of some of the moat able men in
the country, in the administratitin of public affairs, 'but,it
had made its way into priVate 'families, and ereawd
feeling and di quiet ern 7,l;at question threatened
pro'flii`Ce an alMOst implacable hatred throughout the
Country ; bUt its settlement, he hoped, would banish all
feelings of that 4ertil;tio, alid.q.cqt, in their ttead reli-
giousipeace avid geueral tranquillity. qlutf systerp
had drained the country of ItS resporces now cease,
and the wounds which it had inflicted would be healed by
those salutary balms, religious toleration and political
eosality. He thought that a great day had dawned both
on Ireland ally cn EgFlaud—(hear),—aud be was sure
that th4'cout:se whieli'Ligland had taken would shorft o*l
rewarded by increased prespeilti, 'and' by the Unvarying
attachment cube sister kingdom: " •' • ' '' '

' Lorti Rl' said, he had to apologise to the House
fort "o(lVririg hitiiSelrto its noiiee fpF the purpose Of exoreas—
Og the gteai • ialisfaCti(l4 tvlrich '34d d'etiyed tho,
speeeh to Whit:l). iiii)!PrisAt'aritleesi*W'a.4 "an `antiwar:'
did not originally intend to have solicited their attention;
because the sentiments expressed by his Hon. and Learned
Friend near him last night coincided so entitely with his own
as to render it almost unnecessary for him to say a word.
;t7pit ciePate had hc;:r rer;ewzki evaping, fie 14.010
tske the 'bp por nit y to" Iciake 44e vit4
extremely happy to find that thiS great qiiesition, so ltlng
an object of dispute, was at length to be arranged. He
had wished, most fervently, during the whole time he
had a seat in that House, to see that question finally settled.
thrg!lt it was now placed in the proper hands.
He, and those with whom he Waill iu tee hahit of aciieg,
hail long 'felt that the' best;..indeed 'the 'only 'way ot
so ring the success of the question, way by its'being brought
forward by the Government ; but they never could effect
that object, and thei•cfore they were obliged to introduce it
i.parately; and riot 'in a manner 'so satisfactory as that in
-Which it Was 'noi introduced; " ffe thOtight thenolile

, .
at the head of the CoVernment deserved great credit for
the Manner in which he had proceeded. With refer-
: ence to a point which Irad. been touched on before, he
begged leave to say that it would, is his opinion, be well
to wait to see whether merely carrying the question of con-
' cession would not at once put an end to the Catholic As-
: iodation. If it did not, then, indeed, it would be time
for Government to art with respect to that body. But he
hoped the recommendation which they had received from
i their best and oldest friends, and the wish which they
Imust feel for the success of the cause which they had so
long contended for, would induce them to disband imme-
diately. If they meant to follow the dictates of prudence
and good sense, that was the only course they could take.
—(Hear.)—He hoped and trusted, however, if they did
not proceed in that manner, thetkany measure which might
in consequence be brought Bard would not so trench
on the general constitution and liberties of the country, as
to render it difficult, if not impossible, to support it.—
(Hear, hear.)—He trusted that such a measure would be
brought in as would command general support. He
could say, for his own part, that his sincere wish was to
'oe able to support whatever measure was introduced. If
it were in his power, consistently with his views and prin-
ciples, he certainly would support it; but not otherwise.
Mr. CHARLES GRANT—Feeling as I have always
done on the subject of Catholic Emancipation, I rise to
express the satisfaction which I felt on hearing the Speech
from the Crown; a speech which, in my opinion, is the
most patriotic and truly British that I have ever heard.—
(Cheers.)—l join with the greatest cordiality in thanking
his Majesty for that Speech, and for the great accession
which lie has thereby brought to the strength of the king-
dom, and to his own power and glory.—(Cheers.)-1 re-
joice to think that the great work has been accomplished
in the reign of his present Majesty—in the reign of that
Monarch who has been the first to sympathise with the
Irish people, and who has been the first to bring himself
into contact with them.—(Cheers.)—l also thank the
Noble Duke at the head of the Adsninistration for
having given such wise and beneficial advice to the
Crown, and I rejoice that he has been the General to
achieve a victory in the Cabinet greater than that of
Waterloo in the field.—(Cheers.)—lt is true I could have
wished to see the measure brought forward without any
act of coercion, because I believe that any thing of the
kind is superfluous and unnecessary. The law for the sup-
pression of the Catholic Association will be the law for
Catholic Emancipation. One Act will attain both objects.
(Cheers.)—A measure of coercion not absolutely de-
mended by the circumstances of the ease may give rise to
suspicion, and occasion a distrust in those who would
otherwise be boundless in their gratitude. If, however,
such a step is determined upon, I trust the House will see
both measures simultaneously introduced. (Hear.) I am
told, however, that one is to be presented before the other.
I regret the circumstance, but I shall not say more ; I will
wait until it be before me. I confess, however, that from
the manner in which the Noble Duke and the other Mem-
bers of his Majesty's Government are acting, I believe they
are influenced only by the purest motives. I am convinced
they are determined to act fairly toward, all parties; and I
sin disposed to confide in them for temperance and mode-
ration in any propositions they will offer to the country.
I believe this great measure is brought forward above all
party and personal consideration ; I believe it to be an act
of national justice—l had almost said of national piety.--
(Cheers.)—lt is not to be approached with enmity or irri-
tation. I hail it, arid I hope the country will receive it
with feelings of benevolence. I hail it as the harbinger of
peace,
as the first practical instance of a determination to do
justice to the people of Ireland, to restore its Catholic mein-
bets to the State, and to cement a union between them and
their Protestant fellow-citizens.—(Hear.)—Enviable, in-
deed, will our feelings be at such a consummation, and en-
viable will the feelings of those be who have recommended
and advanced it. I shall envy the Duke of Wellington,
who has succeeded in carrying this great measure, in which
so many great men have failed. I envy hint at the instant,
and I shall envy him still snore when he places the Bill be-
fere his Majesty, and opens the door of the Constitution to
the descendants of the Jerminghams and Howards, the
Talbot*, the Powers, and the Cliffards.—(Cheers.)--
Allow me to go further :. I shall envy one man more—l
shall envy the King of these great realms when he comes
down and opens the first Parliament of his United King.
dom.—(Loud cheers.)
Lord F. L. GOWER said, that et this time it was not
his intention to have treat:awed on the House, but that he
felt himself hits elf called upon to offer one observation
upon what fell from his Right Hon. Friend, and from other
Flon. Merobees who hail addressed the House,--he alluded
to what had been said as to the manner in which they
wished that his Majesty's Ministers should succeed in car-
rying into effect the measures which were in contempla-
tion with respect to Ireland. When such views as those
now expressed by the Government were entertained in
such a quarter, and when such inemores as those now
projected for Ireland were promised, no man could be
snore inclined than he was to remove delay, and to say,
'5 stend not on the order of your going." Ho must,
however, declare, that no part of the Speech from the
Throne had been more grateful to him than that which
recommended them to arm the Executive Govern-,
talent with sufficient powers to put down the Catholic
Association. Ne by no means intended to putt his hum-
ble and limited experience in colnOetition with that of the
Right Hon, Gent. who had just sat down, or with that of the
Right Hon. Gent. who had preceded him i but, certainly,
en the most deliberate view that he had been able to take,
he felt that this measutre ought to be preliminary. It was
well known that he had always advocated the claims
of the Catholics in that House, and that, too, with a
seal which, it would be admitted, had erred en the side of
temperance; but he was convinced that a measure foe put-
ting down what was called the Catholic Association wookl
he the very eliair eitee of Ireland. It would he a mere act
of justice: for it would he MI more than granting to the
Protestant population of Ireland that protection and secu-
rity which a great Protestant interest hail a right to claim.
He was quite sure that this claim would be allowed by thc.
House, and that they would see the neeeeeity of ernaost
pledging themselves to, file l'ir'64o*VA 9.1 00. lArotestant
interest in Ireland I.4efore eRy other atop was taken.
He wee ready tO admit that the evils to which he alluded,
and which he wished to see removed, had arisen from the
state of the law. He admitted that the. law, as it now
stood, was in opposition to the iatereets of a grT.itt persion
of his Majeety's subjects in Irelendt v.eell, Proteetant as
Cathol4: hut. still it was poasibie that those evils might
centinee, eyeu after the cause which produced them had
been removed. It might be true, as it had been e94c.
tured, that the Catholic Association vecveld eltpire of itself,
but if it did; yaell sensivee shopta bp taken as would
pleveiit the possibility of eeeuegam being written on its
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said Chet he di eyed on thie-
point from the Nohk7, ;.,ord who had jnet sat down. For
leis ono part, be thought it would have been better fcr the
oovernaient to have said to. the Associatiqo tt Von peofe.ss.
to associate yourselves tether for the purpose of eqeeting
ot•ttertain di,abslities ; we have removed them;
and you have therefore no, longer any right or bretence tq
eernain.'.'• 14 after this, the Aelneincion had persisted,
then he was sure that the-ie wcold have been a general
c.o4orrence oar fug part of the House, without the excep-
tion of a single Member, to grant to the executive such
powers as should enable them to put down the Aaseoas
tion. There could be no doubt that t is Association was
irrec:oncileable with law snot inOcritx• it ryas a se..o-
aPpointed goyerrimerit, thwarting and controulling the melt
Government of the country, and of which any wan,
'night hee'onte a 'member by paying a snbeeription of e
feiv pounds. Hc, eTrt%ioiy, shonld have given, all, his as
B;Btany towards putting ,
down the Association, if he found.
,e
41 not dissolve immediately upon the reweyat
of the cause which had brought At the
ssttbe'et; frilly and explicitly declared. He eonfesecd that he
elitlravir-fgeaineTt'l. GthoilVteVmereyittg hCaal
was Mitch more sariemn.e than 'the Right hon. Gentleman
.
)beneHfi et
tbnel believed
Ireland,
that a
and
*Mr P eel) With respect to the consequences of the pre-
t • '
was pregnant
with security to the state.—(Loud cheers.)--This tieing
the ease, he ;eat meet otiwillihg to ofrer any obstacle to
the progress of the tifeeiurC.. 'His' Mijesty's 'Ministers
jected measure.—(Issue,
mleineasre.
baying
the difficulties by which it was surrounded, had come to inveitigated the subject, and fully considered all
determination in which most other persues prohebly wotrll
have copenrred, hail been mrpoasession of the same
Meani'Or Inforinatien ; and, therefore, must say it was
his wish' that he should not be compelled to offer one single
negative to their propositions. Unless the nrezaioi
Pleasure contained something very diffeicoi irom arty thing
Ithet eoil'id per.i.aive 4 would contain, his wish would be
in'l,•ratifte'~, acid dneOf its'ithgesshoUld he found in thi
efiartailer of aid "opponent to the 'metisnre.' The lion.
Member for Liverpool '(Mr. Iluskisson) had expressed're-
; grets--which were extreMely.natural on his part, and for
which he was to be highly honoured—that this important
f measure had not been agreed to during the lifetim? c f Tot.
Canning. The gratification with which that eloquent aid
able jioirler would have hai!e4l 'ti4s occurrence; justified'
the }Wit 'Holt •Centleinai; in the "sentiments 'Which lie
had it.ipet!sse4l;" but, for his own part, lie was enwilliug
to enter into weft consideration,. *met that a view
of Irelao in passed years bad not Prechieg the con.
viction'whiell had now effected did not diminish the
joy he felt in discovering that a view of .it:ehiio iq the

year 1829 had convinced his Majesty's Ministers of. the
necessity of a measure which had so long been desired ; and
Le honoured them, inasmuch as they had preferred exposing
their characters to that obloquy which always aftatthed to a
change of opinions, rather than expose their ceuntry to:peril.
(Cheers.) He confessed that he was the more pleased erith
this result, because he had long since formed an'opinion,
which time had confirmed, that the success of this ques-
tion depended upon its being made a Government measure.
There had been so many persons in authoritradverse to the
claims of the Catholics; measures in favour of the Catholics
had found so many opponents in the other House of Parlia-
ment; there was, moreover, in the people of this country
a jealous suspicion of any measure on the subject intro-
duced by an individual member ; and, lastly, it was impos-
sible that any Member near him, or indeed in ary part of
the House, could propose a measure which should be satis-
factory to the Church and to the numerous interests con-
nected with it. These were the considerations which Lad
convinced him that until the Catholic Question was made
a Government Question, it could not succeed. He had, in-
deed, hoped that the repeated votes of that House would at
some time force the Government to take up the Question ;
but with this hope there was joirted in his mind a fear
which, as it was not on personal grounds, he was rot ashamed
to avow. He confessed he had feared that events in
_ _

Ireland would proceed faster than the legislation of that
House (Hear, hear) ; that the narrow isthmus between
great endurance and resistance would be broken down, and
that they would be plunged into a struggle where victory
would have proved one of the most dreadful calamities that
could befit' a nation. (Cheers.) This fear—net for him-
self, but for the safety and welfare of his country—had sunk
deep into his mind, and he had hailed, therefore, with the
most heartfelt joy, the measures which the Government had
adopted. He was quite sure that the time was . now at
hand when the Duke of Wellington would find that, in the
judgment of his country, the most unfailing laurel in hie
crown was the Act by which he had restored equal liberty to
all classes of his Majesty's subjects. (Cheers.)
Mr. PEEL said that he should not have adverted Wary
of the observations which had fallen from Hon, Members
none of whieh surprised him, had it not been for the parti-
cular nature of some which had been made by his. Right
lion. Friend the Member for Liverpool. His Right Hon.
Friend had appeared to think that there was no difference
between his Majesty's speech lately delivered and that
which had been addressed to the Parliament at the close
of the last session. His Right Hon. Friend appeared to
think that what was said in the former respecting the
belligerent rights of Russia in the Mediterranean dif-
fered from the expressions which had been used re-
specting the same rights in the latter. He thought, how-
ever, that if his Right Hon. Friend would look at the whok
of the statement on this subject in the speech of hisMajeety
at the close of the last session, he would find that
what had been said there was quite reconcileable with the
expressions lately used. The chief point upon which his
Right lion. Friend insisted, was the use of the word
"'consent." His Right Hoo. Friend supposed that the
word " consent" implied that there had been some forma/
negociation with Russia, the result of which was, that
she had waved rights which she had now resumed. The
words of the speech, at the close of the last Session of
Parliament, were these :—" His Imperial Majesty has
consented to wave the exercise in the Mediterranean Sea,.
of any lights appertaining to his Imperial Majesty in the
character of a belligerent power, and to recall the separate
instructions which have been given to the commander Of
his naval forces in that sea, directing hostile operations
against the Ottoman Porte. His Majesty will therefore
continue to combine his efforts with those of the King of
France and his Imperial Majesty, for the purpose of carry-
into complete execution the stipulations of the treaty of
London." Nosy the fact was, that they, being prAjties to
the treaty of the Gth of July, found that xr,any diffi-
culties occurred to them, as neutrals, from the separate
instructions of his Imperial Majesty, tlireeting hostile
operations against the Porte. They stated that to Rus-
sia ; she withdrew her separate instructions, and they,
preserving their position of neutrality, were enabled
to act as a party to the treaty. h would be
seen, then, that there was nothing to prevent the re-
sumption, on the part of Russia, of her belligerent rights
in the Mediterranean Sea, when she should find it fleece-
nary to resume them ; but then they, of course, had
right, as neutrals, to withdraw as soon as those bellige-
rent rights should be resumed. " Consent," therefore,
as used by his MaLleaty, was a proper term, and it by nu
means necesaarily implied that there had been any formal
negotiation. It was strictly a:conaent, and nothing more,
to wave belligerent rights, by which they were enabled
to carry en the treaty of the Gth of July. The terms,
therefore, of the two speeches were, as it appeared t°
the
eea
him, perfectly reconcileable. With respect to Portugal,
his Right Hon. Friend had, with great propsietya
stained from pressing that topic for the present, and be
must be allowed to follow the good. example setbiru by
thliisat,Raigdhmtittinngon. userFrincl. tio4 H
a e
twhe"gldovewrnemreelynt ooblFierovre,-
tugal to have been most nujustifiable, and the internal
dissensions of that country to have been most, unfortu-
nate and distressing, yet that, unless they had been
prepared to take a part in those Monet dimension*
they had only one course open to them. That that
course had not only not been nagleeted, but that. it bad
been properly pursued, he had no doubt that he should
be able, at a propet. opportunity, to fully satisfy the,
House. With respect to the observation* which ba°
been made itpon him and upon the Government -OR the
sob:leet of ltelaud and the Catholic question, they had bY
no means sorpritted him. He would, however* declare'
once for all, that as far as he was concerned, the Teeple*"
'lnsulation of his Right Hon. Friend the Member for In"
vernass-shire (Mr. C. Grant) should he attended to, and di
,angry recriminations banished, (Cheers.) Now tint he
Azad undertaken that moat important, that most difficult,
and, to hint* that Moat painful task, ke_leotahl do bit
best to carry it to a successful issue. (Cheers.) No re'
proackes from those Hon. Friends of Ids, with whom be
I had so often acted, and for whom he retained the most eor-
dial respect,—no oppositima ce, the part of those whom be
' had been in the habit Oniteeling as opponents,—.should
be-
tray him into the exree.sions of angry feelings. (Cheers.)
He had untlertaJte4
the task, and he would endeavour t°
hying it to such an, issue as should semi the safety of thr.
Ikoteatants, and satisfy the hopes and expectations-clever,
! reasonable Catholic. He was not surprised at the feeling'
which had been expressed by his Right Horn. Friend (AP'
Huskisson,) At the early part Qf last year he had eav
harlead Oh him in a Government ien which the Catholic
4ttettion was perfectly open, each Member of the Govern
meat being at liberty to express wha topinion be please/
on that anblect• It was, perhaps, unwise in both
thean; but they thou ht that they might continue is
the service of the Crown, without abandoning the pritt:
eiple which had been acted upon for so many years in tbera
foVtaaation of administration., The lloase having declar.,
in favour of concessions to the Roman Catholics, he soe
nothing at the time, but he had found that this principle
coold no Amitzev• be maintained in the Geyer:Ml*op and )te
1004 0,4 early opportunity of stating in the proper quarter
that this was his impression. It waa the deliberate ePriii
viction in his own mind, and 41 eXptessiag it he stated
that he was ready to fienalaKe any °Wade which might
arise from 11, l'enitaining in. office. He ought, perbaP:
to have Item this at the heginning of the Session, but ne
events forced, the fact noon him* and he took the first Pr
MtgniV. of stating his conviction, and, as he had bef°r!
eNZteaabag his readiness to remove any obstacle wit'
Blight arise from his continuing in the service of the Crow*.
He went farther; in the present state of the conattry,o°,-
importance had been attached to. individual resignat4r
than would arise ffpm asset' eecurrences ender other eir:
cutratlAßeert and, in other times.. After full said datiherso
consideration, he expressed) his readiness to relieve the
Government from, the ante* which, it was stated to
him, would {rinse from his retirement. He under:Wl
it had Irma *opposed that lie bad said, that in Angl° ,
some measures connected with the subject et the Or,
tholic Question were under consideyat'eant Qua that P"
communicated upon them with hie Noble Friend at tb'
head of the Goverme* Waft a mistake. The WI:
tnntli,Catia whiele be made to his Noble clean related 7,
hie owa individual views, and it wee comemanacated to
other person. His NOble Friend had said, in his speech
the House of Londe, tlket he did not despair of seeing P
satisfacteyy aditiatment of the Catholic Question ; he Plc;
said'to hit Noble Friend, in reference to this, "
think yeti, are right, hot my, situation iexery diferent fret°
yours, and I will retire." Tltia ayes all, and be made the
communication to nq ethee individual betides his Noble
Friend, 1.711 lanai atated, last Right, that iietiug :has his or
Vretneo would threw d4cultiea in the course of the GO:1
baddeteynained to act upon that advice whieu!
lid• reit that it was his duty to give to his Mai,os'
ouidfle very well understand why he was retWeaebtia
for this discharge of what he conceived to he bin
by his Honourable Fricada, Oita thought Ilia press
conduct inconsiatey,t with ferwer views nod deco:,
tatters, o,e 17(°J.,d4 blAtnft thon‘ He would only'
say that, if cap), were ,ionposr.es of the informatio
which he had with Neves to the state of society !0
Irebind, he Oanly believed that they would come to tT
;Ow 04c1-onion with himself, namely, that the Goiter_
silent could no longer remain neutral, leaving tun partie'
to tight out the battle between thema but that Grier"'
ment must at leigtli Act, and that, too, in au& a saaorea
.
as they Tost, likely to preserve the interests of te'
Viroteltanta, and to conduce to the welfare of the 'Country'