The Sun.
London, England, 1820-06-15 00:00:00

'I•HE LATE NIR. GRATTAN.

Sir J. MaCKttiTosii rose to move that the
Speaker should issue his Writ for the election 'of
a Representative for the City of Dublin, in room
of the Right Hon. Henry Grattan, deceased. lu
the absence of his Right Hon. Friend, the Mem- ,
ber for Weterford, he lied been requested to ad-
dress a few words to the Chair on this most me-
lancholy occasion. He could assure the House,
that in acceding to the request which had been
Made to him, he felt the deepest sense of his own
inability to do jus!ice to that immortal name
which must connect itself with all diet he had
to say, and he could wish equal truth assure them,
that by acceding to it on this occasiuo, he by no
means evinced a partiality for such-proceedings
fir general. Far (tom approving of such a course
being pursued in cases of an ordinary description,
he was ready to (alma that if the practice were eX-
tendfd beyond the very narrow limits within
which it bad been of late years confined—lf friend-
ship, or any other inadequate cause,sshould make
such addresses degeeerate faro, inducts of course,
he should most sincerely de pl,)re the departure
from our recent costom, and heartily'vvish to re-
turn to the modest silence of our totem herL,
Indeed studied panegyrics on the dead were
not consistent with the general character and
simple habits of Englishmen ; it was a practice
rather suited 10 an enslaved people than to a land
of freemen, for those who were debarred from
the manly exercises
,open to the natives of this
countiy, and restrained to few subjects, might,
be expected, in the absence of other themes
cm which they might dilate, to exhaust them-
selves in laboured orations and in worthless
praise. Hitherto, in modern times, the HOuse
had preserved a very becoming temperament on
these subjects, anti such tributes bad been limited
'in cases of recent death,- where warm respect, ad-
mit and affection, made it impossible for
any difference of opinion'to prevail. The bounds
which hart thus been observed ought not to be
exceeded. .The House had acted wisely in re-
serving such distinctions for occasions. of an ex-
traordinary nature. Viierothis not done, the prac-
tice would soon resolve itself into a hollow and
hypocritical parade, conferring no honour on the
subject of it, reflecting no credit on the House,
and degrading to the feelings of the nation. If be
should be ashamed of being found wanting in re-
spect 16 the memory of those he had most loved
1 and honoured on earth, he should :not be less so
of suffering feelings. periOnaF regard to influ-
etree 'him on an occasion like the present, "so as to.,
inittiee him to bring forward"the. Merits of an
iridividtial 'as entitled to public ' admiration,
where it was at all doubtful whether posterity
would confirm the decision that might be come
to iu, the first.instance. The honours they might
render to those who ,Were no inert ought to be
strictly confined to sub cases as he had supposed.
They owed this as well to the memory of those
Who had received such honours as to those who
had not received them, to their own characters,
as welt as to those of tlreir friends, for many who
had not been so distinguished were entitled to
the highest bottoms that friendship could bestow,
though not to that peculiar walk of public consi-
deration in that House which ought to be the
Appropriate reward of exalted public virtue aud
transcendent talent. He could not but insist that
the restraint imposed on their feelings ought to
be continued, for that, eulogium and those plau-
dits would become utterly worthless, if for a mo-
ment it could be doubted that they were sincere.
When he stated that exalted virtue, great public
services, and transcendent talent, were the coedie
lions on which such honours should be granted,
and uttered the name of Mr. Grattan, he was con-
fident that every one who heard him would be
ready to reply with eagerness, that he had satisfied
thetas all. Mr. G. had been peculiarly distingeished
in the course of his Parliamentary career. He was
the first (so far as he was informed) and certainly
be was the only individual of our age to whom Pare
herniate bad voted a recompense for services ren-
dered to the country, by one who was no more
than a private Gentleman. Mr. Grattan was the
only Man to whom a Parliamentary grant, ender
such circumstances, had ever been made. It was
near forty years since the Irish Parliament voted
an estate to Air. Grattan and his family for his

pohlic services, an 4i in the I'oBllol9n will 11 bail
naen passed on that occasion, Mr. Grattan had
been called "the founder of the liberties of his
Country." He found Ireland a province to Eng-
land-a-he made ler the equal 'and the friend of
England. flu gave independenCeato her lagisla:
ture,aand gave a.name among the nations of the
earth-to-a brave anti generous people. He was
one of the few whose happiness and whose glory
it had been to rescue their country from a foreign
Policy, and that too by the blootliess arms of wis-
dom and eloqueoce.--a(Henr, hear, bear !)-11e,
in effecting this important object, had so conduct-
ed- himself, that hit name was not less beloved in
England than its that country which lie 'sad toiled
to emancipate. • It insist be admitted, that no ser-
vice of this 'nature could be rendered, without
pnidueing a great diversity of opinions, anti some
political hostilities ; but it was the great happi-
ness of Mr. Grattan to live till the mild mellow-
ing
.liand of time, end the private virtues of ad-
vaueed age, in bins so -particularly
.conspicuous,
oad produced so general an impression., that that
House, divided es it was on other subjects, all
united to do honour to his taleots anti nierits ;
and followed by their admiration to the end of his
career, he doubted not that the tribute which he
called on the Hoose to render to his memory,
would be deep, biome, and ouatrimous. He bad
said that such hOnours should 00l y be bestowed
in cases where posterity would be sure to approve
ihe-Pecision.. Grattan, he Was'eertain, every one
most feel, would be a great name its our annals.
His history won't' WI a most important page, and
mush be: inseparably connected with that of Isis
country. Fertile as that. country hail been
of
great men, it had not been More fertile in any
former age than' in the present, and untie of the
great names which she had produced (even though
Burke and Sheridan were among ahem) shone
with greater lo.tre, or were more certainly
rival than that of Mr. Gtait.irs. The great ser-
vices rendered to his couistry its 1752,
,by Mr.
Grattan, he viewed as totally independent of the
subsequent union of the two countries; but what-
ever Mr. Grattan's opinion might have heels on the
sultject, he (SirJ. Mackintosh) would cotoend that
no useful—oo beneficial negociatiou between the
two countries could be opened till they met on
equal terms, to propose and arrange that onion
and friendship which he hoped would be eternal.
To Mr. Grattan it was, owing that behind, in-
stead of receiaing her Jaws from 11,ligland, was
admitted to a ttill share of legislation for the
' whole empire. The rewaial which he bad receiv-
ed for his services 'tad been justly best Oa etl, and
like that which he doubted not would this day be
paid to .his memory, was sincere. Mr. Grattan,
it might he remarked, was the only man who hall
'gained the first class of elovence- in two Pat ha-
I differing essentially from, each o. her, in
taste, Situe.tiot, and forms. confessedly the or-
nament of the Legislature of his own -country, In
which it might truly be said that
,wit and elo-
quence were of more spontaneous growth thanin-
any other, he-came at an advanced age to- Eirg-
land, at a period whenahe House or Commons
were made justly severe in abeir Judgment by Abe
daily display of talents. such as laol rarely beets
seen in any age or country. 11. had this diffi-
culty to encounter, and one still more formidable,
growing out of his -own great name, acid the un-
reasonable expeetatiors which it had excited; but
he had triumphed over all. He had ouintipped
the affectionate expectations of Isis ft ietids, end.
be had matte those bend to his superior genius,
who had, perhaps, looked forward to a vet y dif-
ferent result. He stated these things to wove
that the present was no ordinary case. He.had:
to add, that Mr. Grattan had died in. attempt-
ing to discharge his Parliamentary duty. He had
died, not indeed in that House, but in. his. pro-
gress to it, to continue his efforts in that cause.
of which he had.so- lung been the eloquent advo-
cate. -He would not call on them to pronounce
on the measure which-he (Mt. Grattan) had
pressed on the House at so many different pe-
riods, but without offence to any one, he thought
he might be allowed to state what Mr. Grattan's
idea of it had been. He believed that it would prove
the means of healing the long bleeding wounds of
his country—that it would give harmony and peace
to the
.people whose independence he had esta-
blished, and vindicate the digni y of the Protestant
religion, by wiping out the last vain of iotolerance
which remained, end satisfactorily completing the
establishment of that religious liberty, the spirit of
Which went forth at the petiod of the Restoration,
and had been !adopted in our laws, though not to
the extent which his benevolent spirit could have
desired. Such was, in-Mr. Grattan's opinion,
the character of that measure which he bad advo-
cated through a long ,and virtuous life. In the
case of Mr. Grattan one thing was to be particti-
lady remarked; • it was one without alloy. The
purity of his private life was equal to. the glory
of his.ohlic one. He was one of Ilse happy few
whose private virtuei-borrowityg lustre iTerna• the
fame •of individuals, shine .forth an example to the.
World. 111 r. Grattan was as amiable ins his pri-
vate as illustrious its his public_charaeter. He
(Sir James Mackintosh) -had' kOown bins late in
life. Simplicity bad been the ornament of most
of the men of genius that it had beers his hap-
pious to know, but never in advanced age had,
he met with a man in whom- a native grandeur of
mind, with vast stores of knowledge at his corn-
,was so happily blended with rational- play
titlness and inhintioe simplicity. It he should at-
tempt to describe his character in few words, he,
would say of him, in the language of an ancient
historian—" Vita innocentissinzus, ifigenio florentis •
shoes, proposito sanctissiolus:"—lt was the object
of his life and his dying prayer, that.the hearts of
all classes in the t wo kingdoms might be united
in affection: His last words were a prayer, that
the • two Islands of Gs eat 15ritain and' Ireland
might be for ever connected by site ties of esteem
and tegard, and that the Legislature :might at
length see the wisdom of wiping away that last
stain lions our system which he regarded as a ves-
tige of intolerance. He hoped the approbation
that would be manifested on this occasion would
prove, that its this country, -the Members of the
House of •Commons • knew hoW to appreciate the
merits of those to whom their own pride and pre-
tensions had been opposed, and to honour those
whose virtues were entitled to the ret.etence, gra-
titude, and pious affection of their fellow-subjects.

‘vlirn the mutts nt thz aeoil W
under consideration, it was natural to dwell wit'
fond regret on those merits, and on their probe
ble reward ; and he telt that he could not better
close what he had to say on this subject, than
applying to M r. Grattan the verses' written on and
who had successfully laboured to refine our tsar;
and our manners, but who had nothing in cunt;
moo with Mr. Grattan bitt,splendid talent anel
spotless lite. Of Mr. Grattan, in the words o'
the poet he had alluded to, he might says wile°
the last sad duties had been rendered to him,
" Ne'er to those chambers where the mighty rest,
Since their foundation, came a nobler guest;
Nor e'er was to the bowers of bliss convey'd,

.A purer Spirit, or inure welcoare Shade."
Lord CASTLBBEAGH, agreeing with the rettls-d
matte by the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, 09 I,
the occasions on which .a public tribute of O
plause should be rendered to those who arererh
more, perfectly entered into the feelings wine
had been expressed with respect to Mr. Grattan,
Rod thought. no individual could hesitate in a‘v3rll;
iti to his name the honours 'claimed for it. Pi
could remember when he (Lord C.), bad firs
came into public life in 1790, that. Mr. Grat"l-1
teas then in the splendour of his talents, awl eel":
tainly no talents had ever asserted greater suite`'
!nary over a popular assembly than his had
He was of opinion, that in the'great trausactk%
which had beep alluded to, England ps(4ol o°4
less from the talents of Mr. Grattan than IrriBn'
had done. By the victory which he had preclns
ously gained, Mr. Grattan had laid the fountiiti°,,
for that measure whist: had united the two islae'
of Great Britaitt and Leland into one FonOirel
and dis.iipated thos,e mists which had before Pr.,„c#
velvet, both countries from seeing their title tol`,
rests. The Commercial bigotry which had to`c.4
existed, was orerthi own to corset rencv 1'
°is
exertion's, end the advantages resulting front
were iMit' felt in the. wealth which each cotor,ra
poared into the other, and which it was new
business of Parlianteot to make fructify, aode:
crease the commercial prosperity of the I:e,i'lfie
The lion. and Learned Gent. hail, Sviih great toso
and feeling, called the: attention of the Noose
the sentiments uttered by Mr. Grattan in
moments, respecting the Catholic Qsest
ever were his (Lord Castlereagh's) feelings of
that •qtteoolt, he, thought with the Hon.
Learned Gentleman, that to introduce any ,A
relating to it on the present occasion waohl
foreign to the •purpose. Whether
was right in the' view which lie took of that L1ue,,,4
lion or not; it could at least be Said that he °4
consistent with the whole of his public du:y,
that he gave his expiring breath to that quessitie
—(Heat, hear!)--He wished it were in his
to express in terms ,more adequate the gemetes
political venerationbe felt for the great eitarle/
who was the, subject_of their present discoursv'es
He was sure that there woold be found its
whose sentiments agreed wi:h those so eloquold
caressed by the lion. and Learned Geotl4.lllo,
on, his
.(Lord -Castlereagh's) side of the 1100 t
as there were on the other.--(clear
sure the virtues of that great character 541/
long. its .the memory of the -B '
ritish Natio
(Cheers.): tat
Mr. C. GR AN'i entreated- the pardon or
lei
House for occupying their attention for 0 „II
minutes. on a subject which 'lb him was so dr?)
interesting. II was glad. that occasion tot
not been allowed to pass, withOot paying
just triboteotpahegyric do the-memory of 0" rs
Mr. Grattan, because •be thought it was (I°oo
the feelinga'oof the •Hoose of Commons, t°44/
feelings of Ireland, . and he would edit, of-Pdi
land ; :fur we had :also abated the ad vantel:Va'-ft
glory of his talents. lie would not enter
-detail of, the public life and character...n:l'oo
.Grattan—it was..satisfactory. and
,cohaolingt 'OO
upon such au occasion all party differences 91'0, Or
be laid aside. In truth that -great titan Was 11°`sedi
removed front all party differenct s, had alcoll
taken his place among kindred spirits, to v`fisco
his distinguished virtues on earth had long (1?
approximating him, That great man was e 009
lightful in private life as he- was in public.
great beauty in his character was, that love,! 144
tirement which 'the ardour of his patrioris''',
him to forsake.' To his last days he telt Cnil-Di,
mired all the silent .charm' of nature with 1,011
freshness and ardour of 'a
first affection. tie
had many opportunities of seeing him in tbell:silli
of his family and friends, and of oho! ring 0,11
what mhanity he gave him•elf up to the &e% to
of domestic lite. These recollections made Its
far more deeply the irreparable lois which
~s!;
self, in conmson with the whole Nation,
►
rained ; but they suggested another toore.;9 Pro ,
feeling—the Intimate cottnetion there
tweet) great public and great private virtoescia ~
trutki, Mr. Grattan's political 'virtues sille
deep, because they Were deeply rooted in
rite (tic virtues.—(Hear, bear 1;)- inilt.
Mr. WihstertFouca passed a high encroil.
the mother its which the. Hohoorable and .":risii,l
Gentleman (Sir. J. Mackintosh) had eqes Del
on the great services which both countriolost,,
derived from the talents and zealous eutleoe,ooiof
the late Mr. Grattan. After his introduclieoesi
this country, having witnessed all die 9c
Mr. Grattan's .political life, he could 01, `,rofrl
this (pest ion to pass wi; hour saying 0 sinf. 11 of
He was a titan (said the lionottraide
whose love of his country would lead hint I) ja.
look all difficulties which might be throWtegery
.wayalf his public duty by Ilia
,own 1)0Pd tO,O
melts, regarding only what he conceivec O°lJ
Hefor the public good. His was one Of 0.14, Sa
et
Which triumphed -over party, daerenees• titleee
not but remark that Mr. Grattan was e-daro'
this praise in a more than
.-orditovi rair:ft
for although, as two well known, be.*Ttegiao",
to the :Union of this- country with ot°
the time it was agitated, vet iriumPd to
all those feelings which ntigbr he st4:W‘..eil
s ay 05 er .iti s mind, recoratnending,wilhad eth
breath that that cordial Union,- whidl -,,fofrool)
formed, might never bteattempted 10bt
t Pa
H e • (Mr. Wilberforce), well: remember" wsicito t
Ise was afraid that that, of lee'
,
man laid more ea rliks tly intu4ed into the lit
his countrymen t bon Mr. Grattan,
them to seek•their rights in an .Iliegilt°
/0
re in
tier, he exposed himself to onpopolarci!oe goocV,
his country front the danget to whiiool
laid open by the licentiousness wbic4

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sth to le nfttne of ri!lerry. With grit
tris-
donr he had told them they were ier danger of
33ert‘inLY, that true lave of liberty, which was
IleVer So sttbstansisily gratified as when associated
With that wholesome rule EISPI SllVMtdiliation which
was indispensable to the stability of civilized so-
'ietY•—(Hear, hear, hear !)
Mr. V. FITZGEEALD hoped it would be per-
Milted to an Irishman to give some expression
t° those feelings which he entertained in
.common
With all Gentlemen in the House, but which he
trusted a countryman of Mr. Grattan's would be
allowed to teel more warmly titan others. The
.110.11. and Learned Gentleman who had made the
motion had dwelt room the character of the il-
lustrious man with great clequence and teelieg.
certainly was tine, that if you read the History
°t Grattan, you must read the History of Ireland—
' Ahem., hear!)—tor all the events attendant -on
ttstablishingethe independence of Irelatol, were not
only connected with his name bur etf,,eted by
his talents. The chief glory of his triomph was,
to make use of langnoge applied to Lord Clare-
Thoet—alone in the history of empires, a rev-oln-
tiun- Was achieved without sheddiog oue drop of
"1"tle-e-(1.1ear !)--.Anxious as he was to avoid
any thin;; which might give rise to a difference
opinion, it was impossible to contemplate Mr.
tirettati's death it i•loiniadeerting in stone man-
ner to that question which so his last uromeets
uccupied his whole heart and soul. There was in
the very consecration which the question had pt-
-I,' teivcd by Iris eed, enough to justily him in ad-
' tietting to it. As trout his life it had received
rife- et support, eo be confideetly hoped that
trout his death it would derive its final success
sod consummation.—(Hear 1)
Mr. BtellElZ was convinced that the House
31,0tild tie disposed to make every allowance for
'the feelings that must animate every Irish bosom
titr the less of the most distinguished and useful
patriot that his country had ver produced.—
stoppiog for one moment to consider his
4/)'n- incaoacity to address the House, he should
1
"e 0 ast'areted to sit silently in any assembly in
' he had a right to deliver his sentiments,
Mien the name of Grattan was mentioned ; and
Ire was sure that those sentiments would be in
litli•50o with those of all who heard him, when he
expressed his deep lamentation for the loss, and
4is profonnel veneration and gratitude for the ser-
l'ices of the illustrious individual in question. It
1v" b'e Ito meaus his inteution to enter into a
tt,etailed panegyric on that great man. He was
t("allY incapable of such a task, and, if lie were
"Pible, it would be altogether supetfluons. The
'lll°live by which he had been principally actuated
to address the House was to reraatk, that • a do-
-Ihin'eht—i he' (lying exhortation of Mr. Grattan
"e his Catholic countrymen, addressed to a geu-
tietnan Who stood by his bedside, and itumediately
"Mtnitted by .him to writing, bad been commu-
n!eated to him, which, wiih the permission of the
rtouse, be would now read.—(Hear, hear, heat !)
.-"The Hon. Member here read the document in
l•ttcslion, but so rapidly that see are en44bbd to
kite but an imperfect- sketch of it. It was, how-
ever, to the followiog effect
It" I wished to go to the House of Commons to testify with
.I,st biesth opinions on the question of Catholic
hot t cannot. Thedand of tivath is on une-
,nrt nut afraid of death; but I fear for toe country if the ob-
aeci %,hic!l I have so lone; cherished should not be aceour-
wi,h the Catholics to he retires d frinn the oppres-
Ita.,,i linden which they have long been labouring, her: mast.: I
considered them to he loyal men, worthy to be
eetteee, upon a fuotiniz with the other members of the.
it
tt.
Altv ,
, to be allowed to vship God acc,rdiog to tirvirown
Ir.4CiedICCS. 1 swish the question to be settled, heeausel believe,
4,25' be essential to tlic permanent trreiniihty and
; of Ihe country which are in tact identified with it. t he
411itilics hare' •under utt, trials. If their hopes
11...1•1‘
.V.t .y
ee_et he again disappointed, I most earnestly deprecate any
„:111ton on their !fart with the advocates of Universal So4t-
flt.l Annual. Parliaments. Wet e the friends of those
4,,,,,ru1es to be successful in their object, nothilig conld.en-
Inent the subversion of the Constitonon,-and the•estabLsh-
,l h,"-r;?1 the. wildest Democracy. "there is one thing more.iiss.,"!-111,01ci must cautiously avoid becoming. patties to any
-kiit,Wluns that may unfortunately prevail in the Royal Fa-
• hear T.)
`‘()thing could be more honoorahle to Mr.
'rattan than this proof of his anxious solicitude
• 4trr
trr t dying moments to preeent his• countrymen
falling into error. lie ( \lr. Beebe') trusted
;:t4t the Catholics would not fail in the great ob-
lt;t which they had in view. If they should fail,
jj°°!ti only be by a depaiture• from' the (lying in-
tri"ectinns of their unweaned champion and best
titt ; and who had thus given them wholesome
t,er.e. as he had freqoently done to those who
ow! to legislate for them. He had gratificd his
feelings by
what he had said ; he hoped he
not dune any iejery to the memory Of. the
Man of whom he had been speaking ; and
:torierot7l that he had not committed any unrea-
Auea;: irespass- on I he patience of the .Houtse.—
Zlit 'ear hear !)
motion was then agreed to.
INTERCOURFE WITH IRELAND.
VOsi„” • MIN I.t.L rose for the purpose of pro-
tee4i4the appointment of a Select Committee, to
relitiß: of the ptovisjons of the Act of Union,
Irelara to the trade between Great Britain anti
tie anti to report their opinion upon the(111-
11,:ePaid upon articles from one country to alio-
l•„:11e Hon. Baronet entered at some length
cart
rouule importance of the subject, and into the
in 2 regulations in the Act of Union; regard-
ti"-,4. the ten per cent. and countervailing duties.
rho 'mefgued that, fur the benefit of both countries,
posts ought to be removed, the effect
at the 'woold be to give new life to commerce
.present period of unexampled distress. He
te„netatned further, that it was not intended by
'144.-u`le'dcet Of ,Unioo that those duties should be con-
-I)Cyoutl the 20 years there stipulated. It
e impossible —,"Vete • for the Irish manufacturers to
the oriniv°l;l' those of England ; anti the error in
en
market
tillsten4a.betrltierietityriaswnasilotliviiesi that
a 11 C"Xl:eil'e':itki.'ee
Ettghish
ilibt!rasoliti nui,anufactUrer isas confined the • eon-
lir "esti() his own country by the duties now
Clia,aeellorCa lit
he! (- hoped ;hat
tier "1-iaces
( not to f
obtain
the
a
at altr
ie3'e.c. venue of 130,0001. to 150,0001. a year
`:he pence of the commerce and prosperity
lie
e •
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scotriiteg:ai t, s yli:ll)agitith:Yel i,billte(f)ovretrd(t;h7ealat'elpirt P .' oi- )11 ),recallingi,
rt:jeet:' the Committee Isn the purposes al-
• ante).
fir
tr,.otuw thateil"ri..as
eoN seconded the motion on the
inquiry was necessary, and that no

'nl eats ought to b tent tintrid id atlOatieb the
commerce of the countty. Wrought iron, hard-
wire, and pottery•ware, were not found in Ii•e•
land, and it was material that they should be af-
forded et as cheap a' rate as possible.
Mr. V. FITZGERALD opposed the motion with
considerable energy, urging that manufactories
had been established, and large capitals embarked'
in Ireland, on the faith of the continuance of these
duties.

Lord ALTHORP agreed that vested interests
ought to be regarded, but contended that inquiry
ought to he instituted.
Mr. WiLmoT also supported the motion ; ire
could see nu reason why the Irish should pay 10
per cent. on imported articles manufactured in
this country.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that
it was no,.v too late in the Session for commenc-
ing, an inquiry which would create great alarm in
Ireland. It had been fottnetly understood that
the duties were to be continued, and upon the
filth of that understanding property to a large
amount had been invested in various speculations ;
and the mere uncertainty which au ittquiry would
occasion, wonld-oi itself, in the present state of
affairs, be a great evil. On the whole, the plan
of gradual extinction, which he tiad recommended,
he thought the best, ,anti likely to avoid many
evils of 'importance. At a more favourable time
he did not say that he should resist all investiga-
tion of the subject. . .

Mr. CuiovEN was in favour of a Committee, as
the duties Ought to be rene%yed for the shortest
possible period.
Sir N. COLTHURST observed, that considerable
apprehension had been felt in Ireland Upon this
sidiject, and he thought any renewal or it was
highly to be deprecated.
Lord CASTLEREACH• thought that it might be
injurious it it were even supposed that the ques-
tion was ieft open to future deliberation : it might
interfere even with the establishmekt of that en-
larged and enlightened system of commerce, on
which it seemed agreed on all hands this countiy
ought to act. It ()light nut to be held out that this
question was not -decided and ultimately deter-
mined, for there never was a moment when it was
more necessary to. give trauquiliity to the public
mind in Ireland, in the present depressed state of
public credit there.
Mr. Huns supported the motion.
After a few word, from Mr. SHAW and General
HART, Sir U. PARNELL. replied, and stated, that
he kit it to be his duty to take the sense of the
House upon his motion.
The Gallery was then cleared, when, upon a
division, the numbers appeared—

For the ;notion 9O
Against it
Majority against .t
PAVING AND LIGHTING THE CITY OF DUBLIN.
It was ordt-red,- on the motion of Mr. SHAW, that there
be laid before the House an Account of the Amount of the
Dublin GrAnd Jury Cess for the last six years, ending the
first Jau. 1S20; the Amount charged to each Parish, tloe In-
solvency and Reassess, and the Amount lost by Collectors;
also the Total Amount charged within the same period fur
‘Vatchiug, Paving, and Lighting the said City.