The Sun.
London, England, 1842-07-16 00:00:00

THE TA RIFF-CEMENT STONE..

Mr. LABOUCHERE said he might be allowed to
take:th:::t opportunity ofputting.a question to the Right
Hon. Gentleman the Vic,-President of the Board of
'Trade, on it subject to which he had already called hi,
attention—he alluded to the export duty upon cement
stone. The effect of the alteration made by the tariff
would be to destroy a trade which gave employment to a
vast number of industrious persons. lie swished
to know whether the Right Honourable Gentleman
had made those returns which he had promised
on the stilij, ct ; and also whether he proposed
to adopt any measure for remedying the grievance.
There was another point to which he also wished to
call the Right nom Gentleman's attention. namely,
wluthec. in case he should be satisfied that it was proper
to alter the existing duty, it would not.be exp‘dient to
adria. the Treasury to take steps to previde that the
trade should suffer no interruption.
Mr. GLADSTONE said the case. to which the Right
Hon. Gentlemnn had referr-d, was a very p, euliar one,,
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printed and on the. tablett the
Douse three inotem,s, ahem its attracting the notice
either of any MernUsr connected with that part of th"
country where the trade was carried on, or of ani.
Member interested in the trade itself.---(llear.) 11
mentioned this because it affinded a justification /In
re-opening the question of duty iemmedistely afters
had been decided by the House of Commons. °it
the very day afier the passing of the Bill, reere
sentations were made on the subject ,by the paste's
whose interests were at stake. lie would ps"Plse
the removal of the export duty on cement sweet,
As to another part of the question, with regard to 'll
interval between the present period and the passing'
the amendment Bill, he wished to explain that at pro
sent it would be undesirable to interrupt the trade. It%
cslatimity which befel Hemburgh had occasiolvd
greater demand fer cement stone, and large quantitisS
it were ready fur export in the pert of llarwl
They had, thereaTe, anticip gg
ated the suggestion of the
Right Hon. Gentleman, and he would now mese thss
the House resolve itself into a Committee of the mOtle,
House ; and would, with its permission, now nose,
"f
a general resolutios, " That leave be given to.briill'
a Bill to amend the law relating to the Customs Act.'
On the question being put,
-Mr. HUME wished to Item from the Right g,;:
Gentleman, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, 'lle
was the.
,amount of gold and silver coin issued by
Mint since. the issuing of the proclamation.
-I;ed
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCIIEQUER: ois'y
(as we understood) the Honourable Member to r•
his question.
Mr. HUME consented. tlr
Mr. B. WOOD suggested to the Right Hon. Gee
man, the Vice-Pre,ident of the Board of Trade, the
pedieney of including China plate with cement stone•ets
Mr. GLADSTONE said that when the house
into Committee the lion. Gentleman could make a ptll
position
to that effect, but he (Mr. Gladstone) w!
give it his opposition, the House having already sole
a decision on the subject.
The House then went into Committee.
Mr. LABOUSI saa,
I ERE would warn the Right 4,
Gentleman against the re-opening of this esti,' ,d
He would rifer hint to the eonsequences which tt
resulted to Sicily from their having imposed an 01'1,4
duty on sulphur, Mines of sulphur had been diseoliis
in fr,•land. He knew of a very respectable house in gi d
go w employed in the Ili anufact ure ,if chemicals, and
the iirm said to him (Mr. Labout•here) it was now
intention to take half -their sulphur irom
half from Sicily. s •
Lord HOWICK expressed his entire concurrel
what had fallen from the Right Hon. Gentleman.
ions
argument particularly appli, d to the recently ittire
export duty on coals. The effsct of that had heels
*diminish the employment of labour in the collieries iti';
district, already suffering severe distress.
reo After-a few words from Mr. B. WOOD, the
lion was agreed to, And reported to the House. ;s4'
Leave was then given to bring in the Bill. ",t-i•
CAPTAIN 'WARNERS INVENTION.
Sir F. BURDETT gave notice of his intentione,,,i
Monday, to bring forward the case of Capt. WarnerS'.
GOLD COINAGE.
On the motion for going into Committee of-supPWsi
Mr. CHARLES WOOD said he had given note
his intention to put a question to the Ti—t. Lord
et,'
Treasury, upon going into Commi.tee Ifis ky,conows
hug the gold coinage ; but, as the Right het:. 3eronetse
absent, perhaps theChaneellor of the Exchequer wouldgo,
him tin answer. It was a subject of considcrables'ie
portance to the country. It would not be necessagS,
call to the recollection of the House .the late r„il
clamation concerning the coinage, lie tboutia
the Government pursued a right course, but hie is?
lieved that a great portion of the alarm and
occasioned by it had been caused by
suddenness of the act. He (Mr. Wood) did not
what was the state of the law previous to the year 00
but, since that period a law had been passed dech'sk
that all persons had power to cut and _deface ;4
gold. In consequence of that a proclamation was as o,
in 1776. declaring the weight of a guinea. The e°oo
(pence of this was that there were veil ,a 4
light guineas in circulation, as the moment
were tendered they were marked. hi the yessrsas
no-less titan 17,000,000/. were taken to the Bank 01
land, - At the present time, the state of the law motes
rightly understood. Ile did not know if the Act had 's)
repealed empowering persons to deface and cut the tm:s
coin. The question he wished to put was; whether
in the power of any person at the present time to entsfset
coin,and if there was any doubt on the subject, wh'i'ne
the Government was prepared to-pass an Act elnelif
ing persons so to do. It would certaiuly have
effect of keeping coin the proper %%eight.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER 511150/
perfectly agreed with the Hon. Gentleman that such
was necessary, but there was a difference of opinion 'opt
the existing law. There were two Acts passed, the e 6
in 1773, the other in 1774, the former eniP°"sle
persons to cut and deface coin reduced in
The other Act was for enabling persons t°
coin which was counterfeit. This last Act we' fle
pealed by the 4th Will. IV., excepting one clause•
could not give the Hon. Gentleman an answer, •450-e
subject was under the consideration of those wbC)
enabled to fornt an opinion on the subject.
DISTRESS.
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Mr. M. GIBSON said, that as the Right g°
able Baronet was not in his place, he should eoet
pone his motion relative to the shopkeepers of Maack, ,of
to. another day, but be would take the libeNa'
potting a question to the Chancellor of the, time
chequer. They continued to receive frell's the
maneacturing diAriets most alarming accounts 7
distress. Everyday brought fresh information °lt;
distress increasing, and he wished to ask the Bigl't 1300
nouroble Gentleman whether the GoverumentsiJ
received confirmatory statements. He 'ho die
also :take- that opportunity of saying the' deli'
greatest diseppeintment was telt at the speeches
vered by the Government on the motion of hi" sir
nourahle Friend the Member for Wolverh",
ton with reference to the distress :of time co
try. The speeches contained little leas than :10%
expressions of hope that the goodness of time cuii
harvest would restore the prosperity of the coWde
lie wished to ask whether time Government coetinu
receive fresh evidence of the distress of the email oi3
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUEIi;
'hat he had been called out of team as soon as I,od,
merit was up last night, and he had but just rettt.,
therefore he could not give the Honourable Gent"-
an answer. t 0:0
Mr. MARK PHILIPS wished to ask whether' 0,4
likely that a large quantity of corn would come tbro,flJ
Malta to this country ; and, if so, whether such "
be admitted free of duty ? lorge
Mr. GLADSTONE said he did not know if fi •lb
quantity of wheat would come to this country t"''eF
Malta, hut if it did it would be treated as tbreigil
MEDICAL CHARITIES BILL. oate
Mr. VESEY wished to ask the Noble Lord orrdpi
whether it was his intention to press the second 1.0
of this Bill this session.
Lord ELIOT said he had no desire to press the,,
with too great haste, at the same time he thought tt
desirable the Bill should pass it as soon as possible'
SUPPLY.
The House then went into Committee of 514'
Mr. GREENE in the Chair.
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The first vote proposed was that of 84,0001. vi• iffv
pensation to persons fimmerly employed in pisWie
Mr. WILLIAMS thought that in many instelo'fM
superannuation allowances were much too great. 1' s\
was one, the second on the li,t, a person who hat la
a year when ill service ; he retired in the fifty-14 or
year of his age, and the forty-first of his aervict•sol'
his superannuation salary was 4001. He (Mr. sel
hiatus) would recommend that . there 'should b 0
superannuated fund, to which ever, public officer sssail''
be coinpelled to contribute in proportion la the
of his salary, and that fund, and that alone, shoei;/"
the only superannuation fund to which they oug
look when they became too old for service.
Sir GEORGE CLERK supported time vote, an'. isosi
cated the manner in which the superannuation, r
were disposed of.
Mr. HUME stated that the vote required thi'„).lo:.,"'
was higher than it had been on any previous °cc:6
It was a grant which got larger and larger ever) sl;‘,
He thought the plan of superannuation defect*- ifih
suggested that the subject should be tahet',.
consideration by the Government before next ye'tatiers
the view of putting some limitations to superans,fleii
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUP`
dint the amount was required. a
After a short conversation, the vote was ngree
The next vote was a sum not exceeding 7,0001. Odocoi,
her Nlajesty to grant allowances to the widows. of naval iioPe
emigrants, American loyalists, and ethers who were Cssool
on her Majesty's liberality.—The vote was agreed to sift
conversational discussion.
The following votes were agreed to without discils'°,;al
1,8.50/. to defray the expenses, etc., of the iNst'' of
eine Institution.
Be foe.
3,000/ for the expenses of the Institution for the
the Destitute. eifti'cs
3,57'2/. `r the expense of the Criminal Lunatic 11°-Vte''
3,800/. *allowances to Protestant Dissenters, poOt
othtr
refugees, and others
The next vote proposed was 39,200/. fur foreir
secret services. 4,l- t it
Mr. WILLIAMS objected to that part of it 10-01
to be applied m the Home service, on the go__l!_‘, ele• doe;
could only be applied in paying spies to watch the ryhe
would take the sense of the House on the sulject• a eon It
Member then proposed as an amendment, -1,100, the tlil
19,2004 should he granted as secret service money, nee,
should be applied solely on the Foreign service. •,0 ago,
Mr. HUME said he objected to any money being e, of ,)1S
The money was distributed amongst the secretat'Les thooto
who were bound by their oaths to a;-ply it as woJeot-0710
best. He considered that a Representative Covert' red
to have nothing in secret, nothing which it was not P lid
lay before the public. the rote
Sir J. ORA HA Al said he did not intend Uraneof the Lord,
or impoliey of having c secret fund at the disposaofife (b
ire
vernment; but he believed the Noble Lord 00. thatCa
Paltrier,ten) would bear him out in the stati ,aid Po'
was business in the Foreign Department sshioh i o cell'
conducted without such a prevision. ijor
Lord PALNIERSION agreed with the B'e 0,, leg ria to
dental' that tome of this money was apehe'si prel''„`-sy at
pose, With regard to the Foreign service, of 01°-
say that it could not be carried on without a ""'
Y s*3s
the (lisped of the Secrete'ry of State. f roonroiero
Dr. BOW RING said, that if no porticn 0
_:sea test
wanted for the Home Depattment, he was
was no reduction in the amount of money vas
Sir J. GRAHANI said there was a rettuctiot?i woe,' as,
Mr. WILLIAMS
poseslad that none of s beeeve ltssad
spent for election porp He did net hin!Slo'n. fie SP
tut there were others wh, held a different offlni -
divide he Commi,tee on the„eared
The tCemmittee then divt ,ed,t when-there aPI l3'
......... . ...
.111
For the amendment • ; ... • 6
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Agaimt it ................. ............... ;; ..
Majority for the v0te.....•• ••-•" .. .
The vote was the n agreed to. rp" • '
PROTECTION Or HER MAJESTY 4900,
On our return to the gallery, we found
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