The Sun.
London, England, 1827-02-08 00:00:00

DUBLIN.

41, North Cumberland-street, Dublin,
Jan. 27, 1827.
My dear Sir,—The Prelates of the Roman Catholic Church
in Ireland find it necessary to appeal again to Parliament, on the
subject of the Education of the Irish Poor; and they again turn
with confidence to that tried advocate who has already acquitted
himself so honourably and so usefully of the trust reposed in him
on a similar occasion. By their desire I have the honour to
transmit to you their petition, and to request you will have the
kindness, at your earliest convenience, to lay it before the House
of Commons.

By referring to the second Report of the Commissioners of
Education Inquiry, you will perceive how small a portion of the
public grants allotted for Education has been applied in favour of
the Catholic Poor.

The members of the Established Church form by far the weal-
thiest part of the community, and, of course, stand the least in
&teed of public aid for the purpose of education. Yet, it appears,
front the sworn Returns made to the Commissioners in the year
1824, that of the children belonging to this wealthy class, who
were then in a course of education, considerably more than one-
fourth part owed that education to the public bounty; whilst of
the Catholic children who were, at the same time in a course of
education, not nearly one-thirtieth part received the aid of a sin-
gle shilling from the state. I have reason to think that the pro-
portion of Catholic children deriving benefit from the education
grants is now much smaller than it was then, because distrust
in the societies to which the application of those funds has been
confided is becoming every day among Catholics more lively and
more general.
You will, I trust, be able to persuade the House, that the Catho-
lic-poor of Ireland are desirous of education—that they stand in
need of Parliamentary aid, in order to obtain that blessing—that
the ample funds which the bounty of Parliament has allotted for
that purpose have been of little avail to them, on account of the
regulations under which those funds have been distributed ; and
that any system of education which depends for success on the
separation of the Catholic people from their spiritual pastors must
meet with great, perhaps insurmountable, obstacles in its progress;
while it will not fail, wherever it may force a passage, to generate
deep and deadly discontent.
I have the honour to remain, with great respect,
My dear Sir, your faithful humble servant,
tO James Grattan, &c. &c. D. AIIIRRAY.

ANSWER.

1, Sackville-street, London, Feb. 4.

My Lord,—Having been in France during the last month, I had
not the honour of receiving your letter till my return yesterday ;
and also the petition from the Catholic Archbishops and Bishops
in Ireland, respecting the Education of the Catholic Poor, with a
request that I should present it to the House of Commons on the
nett convenient opportunity. ' In compliance with their wishes,
I shall take care to do so, and I beg of you to convey to those
very distinguished Prelates my best acknowledgments for the ho-
nour they have conferred on me, by committing to my hands so
important a charge. The general system of distribution of Par-
liamentary grants, to which you allude in your letter, as well as
the political state and cocelition of Ireland, unparalleled in civi-
lised Europe, and disgusting m every truly Christian and well-
organized mind, must speedily fix the attention of Parliament,
liith a view to the application of effectual remedies. The subject
144,t0r a your petition is deserving of the greatest consideration ;
to meet it, the Legislature is already well prepared, by the very
honest and valuable Reports presented to them by the Commis-
sioners of Education Inquiry—Reports which reflect so much
tumour on the exertion and activity of the Catholics of Ireland, in
spite of the poverty under which they labour.

I trust that Parliament will take some decisive steps this
Session, and by refusing all grants to those Institutions where
frauds and abuses have been detected, do the public justice, and
establish the only sure pledge of future good conduct and integrity
Jn all others.

Personally thanking you for the kind tetrni of your letter, I beg
bilt you will always consider tne a steady and faithful friend to the
cause of the Catholics of Ireland, and that I am, with the highest
respect and esteem, your obedient humble servant,
To the most Rev. Dr. Murray, J. GRATTAN.
&c. &c. &c.

PROSECUTION OF MR. SHEIL.—Mr. Sheil at-
tended, between three and four o'clock, yesterday afternoon, before
the Magistrates of the Head-office, to tender his bail. He was at-
tended by a great number of respectable gentlemen. The bail re-
quired was himself in 4001., and two sureties in 2001. each, which
was'immediately' given. Mr. O'Connell and Mr. Woulfe are the
securities-. We understand that the Prosecution is grounded on
the speech made by that Gentleman, wherein reference was made
to Theobald Wolfe Tone.—Dublin Morning Register,

We have unquestionable authority for stating, that
Major Tvlor has been removed from the Paving Board. This
should have iiken done years ago. After the exposition of Mr.. Mealy,
before the Dublin' Local Tax Committee of the House of Com-
mons, in May 1823, tbe whole of the Board, as then constituted,
ought to have been dissolvejs We expect to be able to prove that
the citizens of Dublin have suffei*.%l by the Paving Board, between
the years 1811 and 1826, to the extent of 100,0001. ! ! ! by waste
and incorrect management.—Dublin Morning Register.

The .
question of reducing the rate of discount to
4 P.er cant. is said to be much agitated at present in the Bank
Parlour, and to be the cause of much perplexiig to the Directors.
nit.' known that branches of. the Bank of England have beep este-
in vario parts of the country, and as they become in
is suedshpeacmesdattWi strictly of the nature of a private bank, their success
Hy on their sustaining a fair competition, and
doing busiuesa
petition he's otet sa favourable terms as others. That corn
the country d.
ult. Placed them in the dilemma of reducing
044blislunents• sileo2.6.i_t° 4 per cent„ or of abandoning those
sinus present theing•l'r: To the latter course many objec-
t:, favourite one -wit& th-o Beside,. that the project has been
proposed reform of the 21 Ministers, as connected with the
in
soul, instances housesforsystemC of banking in the country,
rigeinvi,ducting the branch, banks
pare been purchased; "Auld
lucra-
tive employments to superintend Heed to give up
Are abandoned, the houses must heti.'eni ' if the branches
again sold, the agents
provided for, sod a great loss incurred.
Themust, therefore,
be retained; yet the anomaly of a different rata of
town and country in the same bank pr discount for
u a
Practical absurdity
only to be got over by reducing the rate of discount hero. Were
it not for the recollection, then, that this, among
measures originated in 1823 and j 824, brought on the lnafiY
directorsother
the directo
the charge of aiding and abetting the mania for J• •
joint stock •
panito and absurd speculations of eyery description, the rem;
discount would, we believe, be immediately reduced. 4:114 of
the place to offer any opinion on the merits of such a queoeini:
--all that has been aimed at is, to describe, as accurately as pos-
sible, the position in tybicb it is placed at the present —monient.—
Times,

FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE.

FRENCH PAPERS.
(From the 2lfoniteur of Monday.)

PARIS, FEB. 4.—The John PI of the line has arrived
from Rio de Janeiro at Brest. M. J. de Roche Pinto,
Gentleman Usher to the Emperor, and 15 other persons
Of distinction, who are to form the suite of the Infant Don
Miguel, will shortly come to Paris.
The affair of M. de Maubreuil will come before the 6th
Chamber of the Correctional Tribunal on Friday, 10th
February. The ordinance of the Chamber has confined
the accusation to blows given with lying in wait (avec
guetapens) and premeditation, and set aside the circum-
stance of blows given, on account of the public functions
with which M. de Talleyrand was invested. M. Bautier,
a young advocate, will be Counsel for M. de Maubreuil.
(From the Etoile, dated Tuesday.)
PARIS, FEB. s.—We are now certain that all the re-
ports spread by Paris Journals of extraordinary armaments
in Navarre and Arragon are wholly destitute of foundation.
M. de Maubreuil has appealed against the ordinance which
sends him before the Correctional Tribunal for his attack
on Prince Talleyrand.