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*yin and *tour* thereupon, as hereinafter pro.
vided." Theprovision to which this referred, was
the calling of a Privy Council by his Majesty, to
whom the declaration was to be made, and not the
Queen's Council.
Mr. PoNSONBY douoted whethcr et.tuse Was
worried according tothe meaning it was intended to
convey.. He therefoie wished, that .the„eonsidera,,
thin of it Should be postponed, that they might
have an opportunity of 'coosideling it More
Surely:: , - •
The CILANCELLeit, of 'the Exennooka twit
c,ink itich postPotiernent aryl, especially
when rt. was considered what inconvenience it would
occasion. • •
Mr. PONSOSIty laid, that theclanSe 'referred to'an
tauthorhy which was not yet ,chirmined on.; the
Regent's powers were not yet decided, and the in-
trodalion,,of sucba clause in such an tirdei was ra-
ther singblar, if not improper..
Mr. Aphis
,agreed, that the postptinem'ent of
clauses was attended with great incOoVenienee, but:
it the present claws(' was postponed to another pia
of the 11111, that would be no reason for their doing'
it in another instance. It was now proposed for
the sake of .purspieuity.', When his DiNpity
a situation to rektuneins functionS, 'he-sheotd do so
but it was spreMaiuse to introduce a deciaratiotr to
that efli•et there, when the clatir;.es presoribin4 the
fortes of-11.111mi ere not vet". decided U. upon:
these grounds he agreed in the suggestion of post-
ponement.,
-Yoaxe maintained that great inconvenience
would uecestiarily Wow from the postpooement of
the clause, nor did he see ,any'' weight in the argue
toents advanced in faVotir of it. The words refer.
red distinctly to a subsequent clause;so,that the ob:
jection as to the order in which it stood was not can.
elusive'. The Hill itself eootained four heads of pro.
visioyr,.and this came properly wider the'bead of the
powers to be given to the Regent.
The Clause was then agreed to
The Sixth Chose 'providing, that all pergons
lsolding offices or 'places under the apPriititment or
authority of the Regent, should continue to NO
them, notwithstanding the resumption 'of his Royal
functions .by his Majesty, until Lila Majesty should
declare his Hoy i. pleasure to the contrary,' being
read, • .
The CIIANe,I4.OII of the gicaLeturit,moved,
'that the word' " Pensions 7 should be inserted'after
the word. Places, which was agreed to.
Mr. W. Ws. NN a moved, thal the word -"
Tent" should he iutrodked after the-words her Ma.
Jesty.--Agreed 10, ,
The seventh and eighth clauses were agreed to.

The ninth chase,—declaring tfLit tIT4, Regent
abould be deemed and taken to be a person having
and 'executing an office and piiceeof trust within
England, and that he should take and subscribe
such oaths, and make and subscribe sncii dycla,
rations as are required by the laws to titl:lify ttiJ
-persons to hold officei and places of mist, being
read, ,
Sir S. ROMILLY otjeard to it as the most
je6tionable elarie in the Bill. The effect of if
'would be to make the I.L.L.geilt • responinhle:,
a clatr,e was to pass, saying that he, was in an office
or place of trust, he must be considered like ail
others, responsible for the trust, reposed in him.
The dice! of it would be to alter the Constitution,
andanake the person of the Executive reiiponsible,
no by its Nlims,ers but by itself. ,He -stated ill s
objeetion the more,.as the .Might Hon. Gerolemm
opposite kid exptestied his doubt u[Krn 'a former
night, iA Ilether the maxim that the King entild do no
wrong was apiilivable to the Resent. Majesty
no doubt in a sense, 'a unit from the people; but
then was not a recogniied trust. lie was sure
the Committee would think he did mong, in ex-
pressing his, serious apprehensions On the introduc-
tion Of such a emise.

The 'CitANcELLoa of ilit3 I.!:xcHmutit said that
'beetled of the claisse appeared to him to be 'only
that tie Regent sh,,tild qualify in a certain matinee.
In introdut ina this chinst.. he had followed the preee-
dent of 17 89; In the sth clause of the all'of Gearge
the Third there was a similar plaviiion. In the stist h
ol George the.&-cond such a Clai, se Wag also to be
found, He would therefore put it to the Committee,
whether with such instances before them, they
would th'ilk it right to tfypart from precedent ? As
to the question of responsibility, if any doubt exist-
ed on that head, it would not be settled by' the pass-
big or rejefting of this clause. There should be at
specific vnaament in order to release him It would
be well, hoWever, before they adopted suds stage,
to consider whether in an Office uNknown to the
Constittlion, any subjea should be consi,der'ed out ,
responsible. There could be no doubt but the
ti-
misters of the Regent, would be responsible to Psi!•
liament, and it was to their responsibility and not
to that of the Regent that Parliament would look.
He would not agree with the lon. and Learned
Gentleman, that there existed any sufficient reason
for the omission oldie clause.
Sir T. TuaToN sedated his concurrence in the
reasoning of his
,Fl,to. owl Learned( Friend on the
floor, particularly utte=r the answer_ that had been
given to his arguments. He denied that the office
of negetit w,ts unknown to the country. There
were two cases of it in the Rolls of Ettliaihent,
in the reign of Edward- W. both without iinkitl-
Lidb.

Mr. HENItY Stairrn spoke in favour of tilt;
elatine.

Mr. TIMINEY maintained, that the clause'was at
variance with heltesdution of the House. The
ite,.olotton authori,ed his Royal Highness to exer-
cise all the prcregative4 and authorities of the King;
uttd would any one say, that lie who was to repre-
sent the King should he broke down' to an Excise-
Huai If they resohc lipon having soch'a clause,
they should tend up it new Addrts3 to the Prince of
Wales, to tell him that he must submit to those
fermis Which are, impesed upon the meanest sub-
jeets. Lt tin oath was considered .tiecessary, they
might impose it ; but it would be wall to consider
who the terNoti was to whoin it was so be propps.
ed, and the situation he was one day to boki in the
Government.

CuAxceLLott of the EXCHECILIIM said, that
lien lu. 411.14;riied the clause verbyfial from
01 1769, kt dirt not exped to be charged :with an
ipivotion rt!,:tiet, lilt Iteteot to the butte of an ex-
C.Wit,llll. It hove been well had. the light
,I ',Jo. Gentleman read tht Ft It upon winch he des-
twitet), cut it he Lad, lie v:ut.,1%.1 have. tuerld that kat