The Sun.
London, England, 1845-07-24 00:00:00

SUPPLY

Motion made, and Question proposed, " That the Order of the PI
for the Committee of Supply be now read:"—Amendment prop'
to leave out from the word " That" to the end of the Question, LL'
order to add the 'a ords, " this House regards with regret and ar,
prehension the state of affairs in New Zealand ; and that those fee';
logs are greatly aggravated by the want of any sufficient evidence of
a change in the policy which has led to such disastrous results,"
stead thereof:— Question put, " That the words proposed to be '
out stand part of the Question." The House divided :

A'Court, Captain
Acton, Colonel
Antrobus, Edmund
Arbutlmott, H.
Arkw'right, George
Berne, 11. J.
Baird, W.

MAJORITY-AYES, 155.
Eatcourt, T. G. Maxwell, J. P.
Farnham, E. B. Meynell, Captain
Fellden, William Morgan, 0.
Filmier, Sir E. Mundy, E. M.
Fitzroy Henry Neeld, Joseph
Flower, Sir J. . Redd, John
Forman, T. S. Neville, Ralph
Fremantle, Sir T. Newdegate, C. N.
Fullvr, A. E. limpet t, Viscount
Gardner,j. 1). Nieholl, John
Gaskell, J. H.
Gladstone, W. E. NCis°srulthltcaind,,LoVis:nnS
Gladstone, Captain Paeke, C. W.
Gore, Montague i'akington, J. S.
Goulbaru, Henry Palmer, Robert
Graham, Sir J. Patten, J. W.
Granby, Marquis Peel, Sir R.
green, T. Peel, Jonathan
Grimaton, V.scount Pennant, Colonel
Ilalford, Sir 11. Pringle, Alexander
Hamilton, C. J. Pusey, Philip
Hamilton, W. J. Rashleigh, William
Hamilton, Lord C. Rickards, Richard
Harris, Captain Rolleston, Colonel
Herbert, Sidney Round, John
Hope, Charles Rous, Captain
Hope, Alexander Sanderson, Richard
Hope, G. W. Sandon, Yiseount
Hotham, Lord Seymour, Sir H.
Houldaworth, T. Smith, Abel
Hussey, Ambrose Smith, T. B. C.
Hussey, Thomas Smyth, Sir H.
Inglis, Sir Z. H. Somerset, Lord G.
Jermyn, Earl Spooner. Richard
Jocelyn, Viscount Spry, Sir S. T.
Johnstone, Sir J. Sturt, H. C.
Jones, Captain Taylor, Edward
Kemble, Henry Thesiger, Sir F.
Lefroy, Anthony Thornhill, G.
Lennox, Lord A. Trench, Sir F.
Liddell, H. T. Trevor, G. R.
Lincoln, Earl Trollope, Sir J.
Lockhart, William Vernon, G. H.
Lowther, Sir J. 11. Vesey, Thomas
Loather, Colonel Wellesley, Lord C.
Lygon, General Williams, T. P.
Mackenzie, T. Wood, Colonel T.
Mackenzie, W. F. Wortley, John S.
Maclean, Donald Yorke, E. T.
M`Neill, Dancan
Manners, Lord C.
Martin, C. W.
Masterman, John

331dwin. Barry
Baring, Thomas
Baring,. W. B.
Benbow, John
;;entinek, Lord G.
Illaeltburne. J. I.
li ddero, 11. G.
Borthwiek, Peter
Bottled, Beriah
Bowles', Admiral
Bradshaw, James
Brawston, T. W.
Brisco, M.
Broadley, IL

Broad rood, H.

Bruce, Lord E.
Bruges, W. H. L.
Buller, Sir J. Y.
Bunbury-, Thomas
Cardwell, Edward
CarelY, W. H. P.
Chapman, Aaron
Chelvea, Viscount
Cholniondeley, H.
Chute, W. L. W.
Clifton, J. .

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Clive, Vlseotult
Clive, it 11.

Cockburn, Sir G.
Collett, W. R.

Corry, 'Henri-

Cripibi, W.
Darner, Colonel
Darby, George
Denison, E. B.
Dickinson, F. U.
Dodd, George
Douglas, Sir U.

Douglas, J. D. 8.
Duckworth, Sir J.

Duncombe, 0.
East, James B.

Eastnor, Viscount
Egerton, W. T.
Entwisle, William
Eseott, Bickham

rraxase.
Bating, Henry
Young, John

MINORITY-NOES, MI.
Aglionby, H. A. Gibson, Milner Protheroe, Edward
Aldarn, William Grosvenor, Lord R. Pulsforcl, Robert
Anson, Colonel nestle, Archibald Roebuck, J. A.
Baring, F. T. Hawes, Benjamin Roes, D. R.
Barnard, E. G. Hill. Lord M. Russell, Lord J.
Berkeley, Captain Hindley, Charles Russell, Lord E.
Bernal, Ralph Holland, Robert Seymour, Lord
Blake, M. J. Howard, P. 11. Shell, It. L.
Bouverie, E. P. Howard, Sir R. Shelburne, Earl
Bowes, John Hume, Joseph Smith, J. A.
Bowring, Dr. Hutt, William Somerville, Sir W.
Brotherton, J. Lemon, Sir C. Stewart, P. M.
Byng, G. S. Leveson, Lord ' Strickland, Sir G.
Christie, W. D. Macaulay, T. B. Tancred, 11.. W.
Clay, !Sir W. M`Taggart, Sir J. Tollemaehe, John
Cobden, R. Mangles, R. D. Tower, Christopher
Colborne, W. N. R. Marjoribanks, S. Troubridge, Sir E.
Colebtooke, Sir T. Mitcalfe, Henry Tufnell, Henry
Collett, John Mitchell, T. A. Turner, Edmund
Denison, W. J. Moffatt, George Villiers, Charles
Denison, John E. Morris, David Wakley, Thomas
Dennistoun, John Muntz, G. F. Walker, Richard
Duke, Sir J. Napier, Sir C. Warburton, H.
Duncan, George Norreys, Sir D. "Ward, H. G.
Dundes, Admiral O'Connell, M. J. Wawn, J. T.
Dundas, F. '• Ogle, S. C. Wilde, lit T.
Esmohde, Sir Thos. Paget, Colonel Williams, William
Fielden, John Paget, Lord A.
Ferguson, Sir R. A. Palmerston Lord TELLERS.
Fitzroy, Lord C. • Plumridge;Captain Ingestre, Viscount
Forster, Matthew Ponsouby, C. F. A. Buller, Charles

THE i:.:XPERINIENTAL FLEET.
We publish the following observations on the subject of the
Channel Fleet. They are from the pen of a naval officer
The decision of the present Board of Admiralty to maintain
the effective and disposable force, provided for in the naval esti'
mates; in the British Channel. is deserving of unqualified er,.
probation. The proportion at present so employed equals a fifth
of the seamen and marines voice for the year. At peace in e"
quarters of rbegiobe, from the extended colonies and settlement.
of Great Britain, it will perhaps be found impracticable always to
retain so large a demonstrative force in t he English Channel, bet
the wisdom of the Admiralty in arriving at this determine'
tinn to collect the present fleet, is based on the soundest vs'
soiling. The proviri,ns and stores supplied to this fleet direct
from our home naval establishments is an actual saving of ifr
per cent., independent of repairs—obviating the expensive
necessity of hiring transports to victual a fleet in the Alediter..
raneari, which has until this period been the rendezvous of
British ships of war. But now less importance being attached
to the value of such a position, from the rapid advances stems
power is introducing into naval movements, it must be admit"
ted that the eligible and effective station for line-of-battle ships
is the English Channel, whether for the direct influence it exer-
cises on our political relations with fereivn Governments, or
the confidence it imparts to the subjects of this country, wit"
whom this service has been always a cherished and deservecfil
prized arm of defence.

Time, and the judicious improvements in paying seamen
their taps in monthly allowances instead of the old manner, e•
the expiration of three or four years, has made Jack a more re-
fleetly° being, and his first great improvement in his position
attributable to Sir James Graham, when he presided over the
Admiralty. Discipline has made such happy progress in lessen-
ing corporal punishments that the notion which universally pr.e"
veiled that a British ship of war was unable to maintain interne'
discipline, without proceeding to a foreign station, now 1
longer exists: The mutual benefit, too, received and conferred
on the sailor by giving him an opportunity of laying out
wages in England, instead of a confined harbour like Malta, 111
which Jack was robbed of half his earnings to make some three
or tour individuals there wealthy in the extreme, is not to be
overt°. ked; and, keepine a Channel fleet in peace willdo Much
to make the service popular with the mercantile marine.
The Admiralty also are enabled more efficiently to superin"
tend the valuable experiments now under trial, than if thel
were deputed to a Commander-in-Chief on a foreign station ;
but it is to be hoyed the present Admiralty will allow more
publicity to be given to the results of these experiments than tt
furni,hed to the brig experimental squadron in the autumn °'
last Sear. Up to this time not a document has been laid be-
fore the public as to its results; and the public, who have en
indisputable right to be enlightened on the success or failure to,
such interests, are alone indebted to the creditable efforts of the
daily press. A series of circulars have emanated from the Ad"
miralty, all tending to suppress fair inquiry. The results of the
last line-of-battle ship squadron were dragged forth piecemeal,'
and no better auspices await the present. The only assurance
the public can obtain is that the reports will be made to the
proper authorities, with whom it will remain, until from 011;
pense will proceed indifference to the important interests involve"
in the trials.

Major. Gereral Morison paired off with Lord
Heniker on Tuesday, the 15th inst., in favour of Lord Palmerston'',
motion on the Spanish treaties.
THE SUPPOSES) MURDER AT NEWCASTLE —.The
adjourned Inquest or. the body of Jane Kelley, who died at the in-
firmary at Newcastle-upon-Tyne, under circumstances airesd,Y
stated, was held on Monday evening, when a great number of
nessea was examined, whose evidence was very conflicting. 1"
surgeon who made the port ntoriews examination, stated that she
had died from inflammation of the outer membrane of the bowe;
accompanied by a perforation into one of the intestines, bat how
these effects were caused, he could not say. There were no ester'
nal marks of violence. The Jury, under these eireumstances, re;
turned a verdict " that the deceased had died of inflammation,
whether caused by violence or not there was no evidence to aati "
them." The prisoner, Michael Kelley, who was remanded on hel
brought before the magistrates soon after he was apprehended, g°
is still in custody, will in all probability be dleicharged.