The Sun.
London, England, 1829-02-13 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

I' OUSE OF LORDS.—(LAST NIGHT.)
TM: Loom CuANcEt.t.on. entered the House a few
r:iinutes :wren.. Four e'clikit.
Prity,rs were recd the Lord Bishop of Chester, after
which the Ear:s of Liverpool and .Mulgrave took the
oaths al,d their
The lions! then eti:j ana;eil during pleasule.
The L.ortn CH AN:: -.cok his seat on the woolsack
a fe-e ntinntei after Five o'clock.
T Eirl of SHAFTESBURY presented a petition
front tar Provost and Borough of Stirliog, and from
Artier !Ain, in Bucks, -,gainst further comeession.
FEVERSHAM presented a petition fi-om Kirkby
Lonsilre.
Lon; ELDON presented five petitions from parishes
in Baci7.4. arinst further concessions to the Catholics;
from a 7,arish iii Oxlor,shlre ; from another in Berkshire,
praying the preservation or 11e isoistitution
Three parishes in ‘Villingford, one from a parish in
the cot, ry f P istbrnhe, another from Irletrstotie, Lanca-
shire, I,ie i strten that the ilisinay was great in conse-
quence of the ttn-a,ttres which had been adopted. On,
flow a purist in Denbigh, another 'rum Redding, C, -
narvon--, ire, one fro:n Rid ii :le, Lati,!.ol,ir ,01,1
front e e Protest:int Di,- tows of tsoiwies In lrelaod.
The )uke DEVONSHIRE hail s-v, rat
har.l to pr. s—tit. Brigiver prospects had now oaet.ed nn
IrelataL, and w:rhoitt known, what the treasure was that was
to hela-,ught fit ward, he give it his warmest suppio r,
The N l3le Duke Own pleserited petitions from Duta.tar-
von ;..r Youghil, p-aying for the reticsal of the laws relative
to the at plies.

Lor.• FALNIOUTH had several petiCons, and before
he pro.. ro-II them lee thought it right to Fisk the Nohle
Duke It the head, of its Majesty's Government a
single .„uestion. He probably should not have been under
the neeessity of doing so, but (torn having been prevented
attend. il;; the opening of Parliament by indisposition, and
tberef •re he had not had the benefit of those explanations
that h.,1 been given on one of the most important subjects
ever Lefore the House. Ile understood a statement
had lu-nt made by the Noble Duke, to the effect that the
majority of the people of England were in favour of
what he haul termed settling the question. The
Noble Duke had explained, by his own conduct, settling
the question to mean Catholic Emancipation. Ile
begged therefore to ask, whether the Noble Duke had
declared that the majority of the people of England were
in favour of settling the question, meaning by that Catho-
lic Emancipation. [The Noble Lord here sat down, but
the Noble Duke apparently was not aware that Lord Pal-
month had coueluded.l
Lord FALMOUTH again therefore came forward, and
• xpressed his sorrow at having asked a question which the
Noble Duke did not think proper to answer.
The Duke of WELLINGTON rose and begged pardon for
not having been aware that the Noble Lord had conclude:l.
He did not think the Neble Lord was quite regular in
coming there to state expressions which be (the Noble
Duke) bad used, or was supposed to have used, and than
to ask for an explanation of them. He did not exactly
recollect the expressions that had fallen from him.—
But he had no limitation in saying that a very great por-
tion of the people of this country were most anxious that
this questbzn should he settled.
Lord HOLLAND apprehended that the constitutional
question the Noble Lord wished to know was to be an-
swered by the House of Commons.

Lora FALMOUTI-1 did not consider himself out o.
order at all. The Noble Duke certainly had not now said]
the trejority, but that he believed a very great portion
of the people of England were in favour of Emancipation.
The Noble Duke had explained the matter by his conduct,
sn much that he say, when the Noble Duke rtieil the
term settling the Catholic Question, he meant granting
Emancipation. He hoped, if that were so, the Noble
Duke would not hesitate to advise his Majesty to dis-
solve Parliament. He trusted the Protestants were not
to be taken by surprise. It was impossible for the
Noble Duke to m ike the statements he had done,
without drawing the fixed attention of the public. his
infbritietion from the west of England was of such a na-
ture th at he believed not one man in a hundred in those
counties, if they were polled, would be in favour of settling
the quer•ion : he thought in Cornwall and Devon there were
three cp. erten; of a million of people, and that ninety-nine
out of a hundred were against the measure. He hoped the
Noble Duke would come forward and prove the: a great
many people were in favour of that extremely disastrous
and serious measure. He thought the Noble Duke had
heen too severe in accusing him of being-irregular in ask-
ing the questions he had done.
The Duke of WELLINGTON charged the Noble Lord
with nothing but the fact, that it was not according
to the orders of the House to refer to a former
statement in it, and then ask what hail been said. The
Noble 7.-ord had put it upon him that he had used the
words " Catholic Emancipation." That jertn had been
inisaprlied. It was a cant phrase, intended to
throw odium upon him which lie did not deserve.
When he came forward to submit the plan to the Honee, it
would then be seen plainly that it would be satisfactory
to a gr. at many of the public.
Lord FARNHAM did not deny that the Orders of the
House were as the Noble Duke had stated them, but it was
a matter of every day occurrence that references were
made to firmer debates. An example occurred only the
other evening, The Noble Duke himself had referred to
whaehad fallen from him on a former occaaion, with a
view to give an explanation about a certain letter.
The Duke of WELLINGTON—That was not to ask
an eel:id-nation.
Lore FALMOUTH then presented a petition from
Cornwe.l against Emancipation, signed by a great many
of the espectable portion of that country.
Lord LONGFORD, in presenting a petition, said he
had be-n extremely nii-aonceived in what lee had said:
the other evening. He was reported to have said that
his No: le Relation at the head of the Government had
been gellty of deceit. He had never said any such
thing. The other point was with respect to the Forty-
shilling
Freeholders of Ireland. One of the petitions he
had re: erred to, he n.d not consider applicable to the oc-
casion; feet no language could he use sufficiteitly strong
to show now anxious he was that the Forty-sealing Act
should lie repealed. 'The Noble Lord then presented a
petition from the county of Armagh, against further 'con-
cession N., the Catholics.
The Itishop of DURHAM presented a petition from the
Clergy ~• the County Palatine of Durham against further
cuncessi,- us to the Itonian Catholics; and another petition
to the rime effect from Nerthallerton.
Lost CARNARVON having heard t'sis petition read.
admitted that the Church of Roue had always been
represee red as sterigereua and tyeinnieel. bu! he would] not
be burr:6.rd to fiod the petitioners in this iii-wise had
meant the Church of England, because tt•iere never
had been a dine iveen the Steer was sdr likety
to be ovei thrown by any set of men, as it
was at present the einoluct it not of the whole, of
the area Imply of tia• Gerey of England. The Nobie
Lord owed ir would not he repeited that the House
would tie taken by surprise if the Roman Catholic question
was now to be adjusted, because, wherever he had
been isece the sittiuge of Parliament last closed, he
had he,rd nothing but enquiries as to what was to be done
upon this aut.ject when the House should meet again ;
and if ,he House and country were not now prepared for
the adjestment, never would the period of preparation arrive.
the resort of the state of things that had existed had not
been la:riy put. The country had been egregiously bin dened
with te.xes for the purpose of keeping up a military force
in Ireland, and if such a cool se was to he persisted in
and continued, this country would be reduced to the
greater: degree of degradation by it. The Noble Lord
hoped their Lordships would now proceed to the settle-
ment of the question coolly, without regard to the clamour
nut of doors. and* at the same time unbiassed within.--
A printed statement had rip eared that Parliament was now
a degenerate Senate, and that that degenerate Senate was
prepared to sacrifice the Constitution of that country to
libellers and traitors! ! This paper bore the signatures• of
some of the Members of that House, one of whom he
Noble Lord saw in his scat, hut which signatures the Noble
Lord could not but regard_ as forgeries. The time was,
when, if a Member of that House had sent forth such a
statement he would have been called to the Bar of the
House, and from thence removed to prison. If Noble
Lords however were privy to this proceeding, it was only to
he considered as the ravings of disturbed minds and excited
passions. How could any man presume to say what the
Hoene was prepared to do, when not one of its members
had given their vote ? The people of Ireland were
looked upon as nothing ; yet •it was to be recol-
lected that there hail already been one rebellion in that
unfortunate country, which had cost, besides millions of
money, not lees 'than 100;000 human lives. Men who
had always been the strongest opposers of Catholic eman-
ctpation, appeared to be now completely decided in
their minds that there were no means of allaying the dis-
turbed state that Judd so long existedeexcept either by com-
mencieg another civil war, which Might last for another
twenty years, as the former did, or by adjusting the
question in a: satisfactory Inanner to these seven mil-
lions of people,—(Hear. )--The Government that would
attempt to rule Ireland as it bad been governed for the last