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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE 01' LORDS, July 19.
The,} LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Wool-
sack arfOtir o'clock. •
Lord MEDICAL REFORM.
BROUGHAM esented petitions from Devo'n,
Sortie
rset, and Cambridge, praying that, new charters
should not be granted to the Colleges of Surgeons and
'`lvi:lYsicians and the Apothecaries' Company, until the
V'tt% *abject of medical reform was duly inquired into.
b„,;leAlarquis of LONDONDERRY presented a similar
—lien from Shields.
EMPLOYMENT IN MINES, &c.
iq
`g,ur-4:HA TH ERTON presented a petition from miners
t4llordshire against Lord Ashley's Bill relating to
P10.741e
-•
nt in mines and collieries.
CATHOLIC GRIEVANCES.
frht Duke of CLEVELAND presented a petition
rq•°,oekton-upon-Tees, comp:aining- of the want of
.4,.-nilv'Frai.s, assistance in hospitals and gaols, and in the
tri 111-' navy. He thought that the complaints of the
;•)e,.tierters were overcharged. He could say from his
r, n knowledge that the complaints were groundless as
Ztarded the. army ; but he did nc.t know what might
e practice in ie navy.
',II-MUTABLE PAWN OFFICES (IRELAND).
v•Yrk the motion of LORD WIIARNCLIFFE this Bill
Tits jead a third timCOe and passed.
UIt.TS AND PRISONS BILL
(IRELAND).
On the motion of the same NOBLE LORD this Bill was
re—
eeond time and ordered to be committed.
•Jt,
.-
-BRIBERY AT ELECTIONS.
tbitl T-52.0quis of LANSDOWNE presented a petition
rtunng of the present corrupt state of the Parlia-
Th"tarY constituencies, and of the law of registration.
,nt:3' prayed that the Ilouse would take measures to give
L1.8_36 protection of' the Ballot.
4cl BROUGHAM said that he would, in a few
their Lordships' attention to this subject, and
4.41-ove that a message be sent for a copy of the
aeoPuoll.vilich had been laid on the table of the other
se :re? 13Ya Committee appointed to inquire into, the
the j:,°C bribery. and intimidation which had occurred at
`,t• Oection
L 'IMPRISON M.ENT FOR DEBT.
of ,PuCOTTENHAM gave notice that, in consequence
to t} ;text
passed in the House last night, he would early
next session lay upon the table a Bill for abolish-
to`' unPrisonment for debt, and for regulating a " cessio

MINES AND COLLIERIES.
he
-e,arl of GALLOWAY presented several petitions
1,; Places in Yorkshire and elsewhere, in favour of
urn Ashle Bill.
kit" Duke s
of HAMILTON presented petitions on the
et:saii,ject. These petitions did not comehiromerieten
, Or from the mine-owners, but from the
tii,p'Qd in the Scotch mines. The petitionersw de-
b, that the work in which they were employed was
ttessive and they prayed the House Dot to deprive
' and I • children of their only means of sub-
tssten taeir..
work ; alio a petition to the same effbct from the
-ers 111 • coal-mine in the county of Stirling. He
earnests
I Y soppofted the wayer of the etition.
Ctc „..answer to a question from the LORD- CHAN-
s.I.4)R,
/a° ;iercl BROUGHAM said he should postpone his
_
lisC,,°° relative to slavery till Monday next, but he should
tas-orilisent to a further delay.
tlitt UIARLEVILLE presented a petition praying
the the Canal Company of Ireland might be exempt from
C 'U
ol
I,fleeration of the Irish Drainage Bill.
trot, he Earl of SCARBOROUGH presented a petition
411,1 le est Riding of Yorkshire, against the Mines
iWes B ill.
tc, DRAINAGE (IRELAND) BILL.
N 44° 'WHAiINCLIFFE, in the absence of his
41 'lend, the President of the Board of Control,
mot'ed the committal of this Bill.
ohs i..! Earl of GLENGALL did not wish to throw any
thb'tes in the way of the progress of this Bill, but lie
vasught that separate Bills ought to be introduced. It
teller subject of great importancF, and this Bill was too
k,tcl al In its character. He did not think there was
the if any hurry, nor did he think it necessary to pass
ea,al this session. He objected to placing so large an
lasc"t of property in the hands of Commissioners, and
sholtnig those Commissioners with so much power. He
'el old, therefore, move that the Bill be referred to a
eet Committee.
rd MONTEAGLE thought the Government were
evt "ed to very great credit for bringing in this Bill. If
e'erthere was a Bill well considered, it was this one—if
/here was , a Bill which came up and was supported
t,;Yeauti;ority, it was this. It was a subject which had
° exliJusted. He did not think that the Noble Lord,
0, °loving that the Bill should be referred to a Select
I,k(i'lat:_al °llittee, intended to obstruc the Bill, although his
~al might have that effect.t In 1.822 a Committee
Ll'appointed to inquire into the state of Ireland, and
the
-4:
Report of that Committee was recommended.the
option of
a General Drainage Bill. Two other Com-
-411/4,!ttees since had also come to the same conclusion ;
I:Ler which, the Bill called Mr. O'Ferrall's Bill, was in-
!Mueed ; therefore there was s'ufficient authority on the
pktile: of the Bill. The present Bill had already been
Ltfere Parliament two years and a half, and there had
ttl no petitions 'against it.
7”'erat NOBLE ' Loans—Nor any in favour of it.
k '4II%I''MONTEAGLE said the Bill recommended
elt -
of CLANRIC ARDE said it was with great
4retr,•t, he differed with the Noble Lord who hadjust
thiallasbut he must Sad- that he had great objections to
th'tsitr, Re thought they ought not to proceed with
\'''1t15..4.....%4Lta time when so many Noble Lords connected
'.thtflf4.7alltl were absent. lie should support the
e
itiPPor (I°4l, of WICKLOW thought the Noble Marquis
`t,1-e at:- /me amendment with a view to defeat the Bill.
i of Wicklow) thought if the country was to
'iraillzi‘„:°v,e(l by drainaue, there ought to be a general
'krislilule 14. - He considered that the silence of the
tadallded proprietors upon the subject. of the
Bill
)they had not very great objections to it;
'\'ltivts",e'l to see the Bill passed in the present ession
-Itte4 '"te for the motion that the House go into Corn-
";
Npr,o Marquis of LANSDOWNE gave his cordial.
ltlittecr„ to the- motion before their Lordships. He ad
'n'Ot,,i,inst- there vc IA a great improvement going on in
ie which he considered an argument in favour ot.
serel:l, rather than against it. Those landlords who
1444, the most desirous of improvement, and the most
°f suehn Promoting improvement, required the assistance
'th a Bill to enable them to go on.
t4,itioe„ Marquis of LONDONDERRY opposed the
Nitt',•l The landlords of Ireland did not need to be
illest-ed by a Board of Commissioners in the manage-
41U ?f their estates. He thought with the Noble
4ttis),llis opposite (the Marquis of Clanricarde) that
theiltent lasi's ought not to be passed for the manage-
rkt tsf. Property in Ireland which would not be tole-
r tngland.
:r a few words from the Earl of Charleville, Lord
*kitilil,flir,rY, Lord Clancarty, Lord Wharncliffe, and. the
111)0(11- c't Wellington, the House went into Committee
e /he Bill.
clause 1 Was agreed to without discussion.
Co the reading of clause 2, relating to the appointment
Tiitnolissioners,
lit that, the clause be omitted. If his amendment were
Nekt -1, Ile would still venture to suggest to the Govern-
isierte tnat they would not appoint Irishmen as Commis-
'tits r''.----(Hear, and great laughter.) But he objected
C44ther to the system of centralization, by means of
late •
.„ tilt Commissioners, which, in Ireland, was of
ut4rtra constantly superseding the principles of the
Aft„--tutioll.(Hear.)
414;,,,:`r a few words from the Earls of WicitLow and
pg 4•1.1., their Lordships divided. The numbers were—
. bur the clause
'or the amendment 6
64,1 Majority for the Clause —24
Q4,Ses from 3 to 20 (inclusive) were then agreed to.
%, ti too reading of clause 21, and which required the
‘1t.44,12t. of two-thirds of proprietors through whose lands
O Were to be made,
thg CLANCARTY proposed an amendment requir-
-4,1 e consent of all the proprietors; which, after a
4tqwt°l7 conversation of considerable length, he with-
'Th and the clause was agreed to.
'4.he other clauses of the Bill were then agreed to, and
'Port was ordered to be brought up on Monday next.
(in „ MINES AND COLLIERIES BILL.
the,, Woe motion of. the Earl of DEVON, the Order of
tithe
for the re-committal of the Mines and Collieries
(Lord Ashley's) was read, and postponed till Mon-
*llll rtXt.
841 ti! °tiler Orders of the Day were then disposed of,
"e Ilouse adjourned at Ten o'Clock.
sow-

HOUSE OF CO4IIIIO2VS, July 19.
44 Q
(;?,e `3PEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour.
110,t4in FITZNAURICE took the oaths, and his seat for
Hersey Conservancy Bill was read a third time,
essed.
litteitl 4TIZROUGHE
h,S presented a petition from a pro-
of granted
association, praying that no charter
`i rgranted to the Colleges of Physicians and Sur-
t 1,
clort: London, till a Bill for more extensive medical
EAn///448 introduced.
liteg .°1"1. MEMBER, on the Ministerial benches, pre-
that ti it Petition from King's county, in Ireland, praying
lalueetliltleclical charities in that county should not be
44. -tler the control of the Poor-law Commissioners.
Attwo,d'HOLEFIELI) presented a petition from Mr.
''l that iinit gentleman who had been formerly a Member
ei*i 1,-:1150, praying'; hat the 'House would take into
otell i,°— Consideration the present monetary system,
d in a
Sir It Iress. great measure caused the now ex-
ser CI)„.• INGLIS presented a petition from the Wind-
Sir, fire,il Union in favour of Church extension..
.1
"ttvon-1,.-iREY presented a petition from the South
kat Association, praying that no measured
'ilt•N„~nauting a charter to the College o Physicians an
15k 1)V31.13 of London—nor any measure on the subject,
hroVashb:d till the whole subject o medical reform was
forward.
the itbIi,i,)UNCOMBE presented a petition from 37 of.
4111.‘;'"ntailtS of Stafford, complaining of a verdict of
k.eve,iii Passed on
John Mason, Chartist lecturer, and
C,„(4ltitv other,, men, at the last Quarter Sessions for the
the',ear ka,Nafford, for attending a meeting.at Sedgeley,t
the pri flurd• The petitioners stated that they thouigh,
had nut been fairly treated ; that be °mi.
Ivith t,11,g up the evidence, the Chairman let the! Court
'3ll ot the jurymen, one of whom accompanied him
4°14 Jeturn, and the other did not return to Court for
htt ino'llLe after ; and they prayed the House to institute
111`.7 into the matter.
Sir e. s MEDICAL REFORM.
I.,.'4r'AION presented a petition from thirty-five
"rastir;,-,°l the medical profession, praying that no
cueolzets:tained for granting any charters to the
of Physicians Land Surgeons, till the

whole. question of medical refo:in should have been
br night before the House.
Lord ASHLEY presented a petition in favour of the
lim.tation of the hours of work in mllls and factories.
NOTICES OF MOTION.

Mr. T. DUI\ COMBE gave notice that to-morrow, on
the Order of the Day for going into a Committee of
Supply, he should call the attention of the House to the
petition he had that evening presented, from the county
of Stafford, on behalf of John Mason, a Chartist lec-
turer and several others, committed to prison at the last
Quarter Sessions for the country, for having attended a
meeting at Sedgeley, in the same county. He should
also move for copies of the depositions under which
they were committed, and for the names of the Magi-
strates and jury by whom they were tried.
WOOL TRADE.

Mr. J. M. WOOD gave notice of his intention to
move that the duty on the lower priced sorts of wools be
repealed.

POOR-LAWS.

Mr. BECICETT gave notice that, on going into Com-
mittee on the Poor-law Amendment Bill, he should
move that
.the borough of Lteds be exempted from its
operation.
Sir H. INGLIS said that seeing the Noble Lord, the
Secretary for. the Colonies, -in his place, he wished to
put a question to him relative to the case of Nelson
Hackett. The question had been put in a different form
by an Hon. Member on the other side of the House.
He wished, in the first place, to know from the Noble
Lord what ought to satisfy her Majesty's Government
in Canada as to the claim of the United States upon
.a party who had been convicted. i Secondly, whether her
Majesty's Government would be prepared to assent to
the great principle, that the touching of the soil of
England constituted a right, irrespective of the crime
of which the party was accused. Her Majesty's Govern-
ment acted on that principle in the case of the Creile,
and he believed they were right in so acting.
Lord STANLEY said that, as to • the last question
of his Honourable Friend, it was one of too much
delicacy, especially as negotiations were now
pending between this country and the United
States, to enter upon the principles upon which
her Majesty's Government would act in the case referred
to. With regard to the first question the subject was
regulated by the terms of a treaty with the province of
Canada, and the Governor in Council had power toact in
the case.