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THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY EVENINGIVIAY 2, 1845.

extreme points of the views they respectively enter-
tain on those subjects, immense benefit would result
to the country at large. Conciliation would diffuse
itself through even those classes whose interests seem
at first sight the most conflicting. As in almost all
other cases, decision has nihe chances out of ten of
being justified by the result. In the case of Java,
and the still more remarkable example of Singapore,
the establishment of free trade and free ports was the
sagacious policy of the great Sir STAMFORD B AFFLES ;
and the rapid increase of commerce, the increase of
revenue under almost nominal dues, and the almost
preternatural development and extension of the little
locality (the island of Singapore), in which this great
experiment was destined to be exhibited, surely
supply Sir ROBERT with fact, precedent, and autho-
rity sufficient for venturing on a large and compre•
hensive plan of free trade. Better to test the experi-
ment, even if it lead to results of some grave tempo-
rary inconvenience, so long as they are not irretriev-
able. But it would be easy to retrace a few steps to
meet in advance, by providing securities for that pur-
pose in the Parliamentary enactments which shall
authorise it.

We cannot help thinking that hard measure has been
meted out in the courts of this country towards Mr.
CARUS WILSON, the victim of that sort of legalised
spitefulness which the antiquated jurisdictions of the
" Channel Islands " can exercise at pleasure, on all
within their reach, in virtue of some unaccountable
oversight in the Imperial Parliament. If the mischief
and the outrage could have been foreseen, that, in such
a case as Mr. WILSON'S these vexatious pretensions—
(derived from the right stock of Norman tyranny)--
might visit upon an English gentleman, brought
up under the protection of equal and consti-
tutional laws, and accustomed to the unfet-
tered exercise of those privileges which are every
Englishman's birthright--no doubt the Legislature
would long since have withdrawn or neutralised the
powers in question. They are offensive anomalies, it
they exist within any portion of the Queen of ENG-
LAND'S dominions, because they are sure to come into
collision, at some time or other, with the inherent per-
sonal and common-law rights, or the statute-created
rights, of her MAJESTY'S British subjects. Now, Mr.
WILSON, having given offence to a sort of Lilliput
Chancery, stood upon his English rights, and wa4, w e
do think, scandalously maltreated. Little " Viscounts"
and overbearing Baillies, and an Attorney- General (for
Jersey is blessed with all these), who might have in-
fused more of the decorous bearing of the English bar
into his deportment towards the defendant, combined
together in one war upon the tall Englishman. They
seemed to think he could bear it all—and more ! They
must have imagined that (in the words of SWIFT'S
" Lilliputian Ode to QUINTUS FLESTRIN”)—

" Bards of old—often told—
When they said—Atlas' head—
Propt the skies."

Nor was he more fortunate at Westminster before the
Court of Queen's Bench. We will not be so disrespect-
ful as to say that the Lord Chief Justice was testy ; but
we remember that the Solicitor-General lost his temper,
and somewhat of his wonted courtesy, in dealing with
Mr. Cartus WILSON. Mr. WILSON is now remitted
back to Jersey ; and if he had been SAMSON him-
self, lodging at the Arak's Head, in Gaza, in-
stead of plain Mr. W., at ANDERTON'S Hotel,
in Fleet-street, the Executive of that antique city
could not have sent a greater possee of Philistian con-
stables and gaolers to seize the mighty lion-slayer, than
our profound Civic functionaries ; the ever-agreeable
Home Secretary, Sir JAMES GRAHAM, ("Drat that dirty
child, agin !" as Punch says of him), and the illustrious
Police Commissioners dispatched to secure him. In-
spectors, constables, officers, warrants of a Secretary of
State and a Jersey baillie, all fell upon him. Two lots
(one, we presume, for his legs, the other for his torso),
bore him to the terminus, and a special train, we ima-
gine, with a double allowance of loco-motives whirled
him down to Southampton, where an " all-compel-
ling" steamer settled the business of his retransfer
to the island of large pears and litigious people. What
is to be the event of the contest between the island
authorities and Mr. WILSON remains to be seen. But
we suppose that its result is not very likely to be fa-
vourable to the latter, Seriously, however, if the exist-
ing state of the local law of Jersey and its relations to
the law of England be such as to admit of no present
remedy, or an appeal from a grievance like that which
Mr. Wn.sow has unsuccessfully prosecuted to the Courts
at Westminster, it is to be lamented that the Legislature
should delay, for another session, some provision, by
statute, for the better protection of English subjects in
the enjoyment of English rights in the Channel Islands.
There is but one remedy we can suggest, in the
meantime, for the probable evils which our country-
men may encounter if they propose to follow the
example of Mr. WILSON of settling in Jersey. It is the
very obvious one of changing their purpose, and shun-
ning such a residence. It is probable that a determina-
tion of this kind, largely acted upon by the English
frequenters and visitors of Jersey, would operate un-
pleasantly enough on the interests of the Jersey people ;
but it is the surest and simplest device we can imagine
for the avoidance of that sort of treatment of which Mr.
WILSON'S case has been by no means a solitary specimen.
In saying this, however, we offer no opinion on the
merits of the original cause in the Jersey Court. It is
merely against the vindictive spirit in which an indi-
vidual—an English subject—may be persecuted as
well as prosecuted, that these remarks are di-
rected, and we would impress upon the public
attention the necessity, which has been so often en-
forced, for consolidating and assimilating the laws rela-
tive to the local jurisdictions, according to the spirit—as
far as may be practicable—of the laws of England. At
present these local laws and customs are so various that
what obtains in one place is prohibited in another. That
may not be done here which is enjoined to be done these
" Incidit in Scyllam, qui vult evitare Charybdin."

The Madrid Gezette, of the 24th ult., contains a roya'
decree granting an amnesty to all individuals implicated
in the revolt of Alicant and Carthagena in January and
February, 1844, and to those engaged in the rebellion at
Vigo on the 23d of October, 1843, with the exception
of the chiefs and the officers and privates of the army.
The Chamber of Deputies on that day took into consi
deration the amendment of Senor GoNzALEs ROMERO to
the motion of the Finance Minister for arranging the
public debt. After some angry discussion, the amend-
ment was negatived by a majority of 78 to 37.

MADRID BOURSE, APRIL 2.4.—Three :per Cents., for
Account, 35 11-16 ; Five per Cents., for Account, 25a.

In the French Chamber of Deputies, on the supple-
mentary credits being brought forward, a brief discus-
sion took place on the vote of 44,000 f., including inte-
rest, in payment of indemnities claimed by English
merchants, who in 1835 had been subjected to losses in
consequence of the blockade of Senegal by the French.
One of the Members (M. LASTEYRIE) maintained that
the Governor of Senegal was perfectly justified in de-
claring the blockade, and that the granting of any in-
demnity was an abdication of their right of sovereignty.
England, he added, had frequently declared the coasts
of the Gambia in a state of blockade, but no indemnity
had ever been claimed by French shipowners for the
!wises they had thereby sustained. By the treaty cf
September 4, 1783, England had ceded to France the
river of Senegal with its dependencies, but France had
never recognised the sovereignty of England en the
Gambia, and as a proof of this he would remark that a
French steamer, the Gallibi, on board of which was the
hince DE JOINVILLE as passenger, had, in 1840,
passed the bar of the Gambia without saluting the
fort, in order not to thereby recognise the sovereignty
of England. The pretension of England on the
Gambia had been maintained in a dispatch from Lord
A BERDEEN to the Minister of Foreign Affairs, in which
the conduct of the French vessel had been designated as
improper. On the 24th of March, 1842, the Minister of
Foreign Affairs, in a dispatch addressed to Lord ABER-
DEEN, admitted that the complaints of England were
well founded, and that the commander of the vessel had
been blamed. This he considered was a fresh proof of
the weakness of the Government with regard to England,
and an abandonment of the legitimate pretensions which
France had so long maintained against the sovereignty '
of England in the Gambia. M. DucHATEL, the
Minister of the Interior, replied that an indemnity of
more than 2,000,0001. had been demanded by the
English merchants, but only 41,0001. awarded. All
the rights of French sovereignty over Albreda
had been recognised, though England asserted
that French vessels were bound to recognise
her rights when passing before St. a, ary. Several other
Members addressed the Chamber, but the discussion was
not closed at the hour of post. It was understood, how-
ever, that the vote would he agreed to. Among other
items in these estimates were the following :-20,000f.
for the ordination of Cardinals and Bishops ; 3,906,996 K
for the pay, food, and clothing of troops ; and 240,000 f.
for electric telegraphs. M. ARAGO took the opportunity
of stating that next Sunday the electric communication
would be completely established between Paris and
Rouen. It had been at first doubted whether the cur-
rent could be transmitted from Paris to Lyons ; but at
present no doubt whatever existed that it would be so,
without the slightest difficult). He then entered into
very full details of the experiments that had been made
and the improvements which were gradually introduced. I

The following are extraets-from the papers :

" A meeting of the principal silk manufacturers of Lyons
took place a few days ago in that city, to consider the pro-
priety of petitioning the Chamber of Peers against the intro-
duction of Chinese silks into France. The petition was ac-
cordingly drawn up, and has just arrived at Paris, bearing
300 signatures. It states that the Lyons manufacturers con-
sider the importation of Chinese silks as certain to cause the
complete ruin of their business, and contains tables, showing
3i to 40 per cent. difference in favour of the Chinese in all
the markets where the silk goods of the two countries enter
into competition. In consequence, they pray to have the
home market at least reserved to them, and that nothing
should be changed in the present scale of duties."
The Presse says :—" We have received a letter from Ota-
heite, which does not exactly agree with the account from
Havre. According to our letter, Admiral Hammelin had
gone from Otaheite to Raiatia, where Queen Pomare was
remaining. The natives, it says, are well disposed towards
us, and the Queen herself not averse to returning to Papeiti.
She was even expected from day to day with Admiral Ham-
melin. Our correspondent also informs us that that the
functionaries and the garrison established at the Marquesas
can with difficulty provide for their support. Oxen had been
brought from California, which, not having found any pas
turage, could not consequently fulfil the end which the local
administration had proposed. The authorities were reduced
to the rations given by the vessels."
The following extract from the Constitutionnel shows
that the malignant spirit of M. TRIERS still presides over
that journal :
"The Commandant Mallet and the Commandant d'Au-
bigny leave the colony. These two superior officers are
greatly regretted by the French population and the natives.
The first commands the Embuscade, and has been on the
station for the last 18 months. By his firm conduct and
ability lie succeeded, in the presence of an English force su-
perior to that of the French, in regaining the consideration
and respect of which our insolent rivals had deprived our
flag. D'Aubigny is prevented by ill health from continuing
his functions of Deputy-Commander of the Society Islands.
He was particularly charged with the. maintenance of order
and the administration of justice, and no man was better
qualified for that double office. His departure is a real loss
for the colony."

The New Zurich Gazette of the 28th ult. has the fol-
lowing from Lucerne, of the 27th April:—
" Yesterday the Grand Council unanimously ratified the
treaty, concluded on the 23d, relative to the ransom of the
prisoners; but it has issued a decree, imposing certain obli-
gations upon the Governments of the four cantons as regards
the persons belonging to them who took part in the attacks
upon Lucerne. The presence of the Foreign Ambassadors at
Lucerne had for object the promotion of the proceedings of
the Federal Commissioners on behalf of the prisoners. They
have advised the Government to grant a general amnesty."
THE BOURSE—WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30.

First

High#st Lowest

Price.
French Five pc: Cents..... 119

Price. Price
.. 119 25 .. 119

Last

Price
.. 119 25

Three per Cents 85 GO .. 85 65 .. 85 GO .. 85 65
Gouin Bank. I,ooof Shares .•1105 .. 1105 .. 1105 .. I I 05
Belgian Bank . • • .• .•
...630 .. 630 .. 625 .. 625

Belgian Fives, 1840........ 1;3% 1.0314 161;3 ..
1842 •—••. 105% .. 105% .. 1053 105%
Spanish Active • • .... 41 .. 40 .. 40 .. 40

Three 5............ 42
. Porturmese Five per Cents.. 67

42
..

•• 42
•• 67

.. 42
.. 67

Roman .... .

.. 106

.. 106

.. 10G

RAILWAY SHARES.
St. Germain •••. • • • ..1040 —lO4O ..1040 —lO4O
Versailles, R. 8...... ...... 515 -. 517 50 .. 515 .. 5:5
L. 8......•••••• 322 50 . 322 50 322 50 .. 222 50
K0nen..•..... •••• •••• "1057 50 . 1057 GO —lO6O .•1060
Rouen to Havre •• 865 -. 850 .. 865 .. 850
Orleans
..4trasburg to Bale • . 280 •• 280 .. 270 .. 275
Avignon to Marseilles•••• .. 1000 —l6OO .. 965 25 . 965 25
Bordeaux to Teste 210 .- 210 •. 205 .. 205
Orleans to Vierzon 810 .. 810 .. 810 • • 810

RAILWAYS FOR THE ACCOUNT, MAY 3
St. Germain
Versailles, 515 .. 520 .. 512 50 .. 520

L. 8.. .......... 32S .. 325 .- 317 50 .. 325
Rouen _lO7O ..IC7O .-1055 ..1067 40
Rouen to Havre 862 50 895 .. 842 50 .. 8.52 50
Orleans ..........• •• •• •• • • 1180 -.1192 50 ..1175 ..1192 50
Strasburg to 8a1e.......... 280 .. 280 .. 267 50 .. 277 50
Avignon to Marseilles...-.. 1000 .. 1000 .. 987 50 ..1000
Paris :to Seeaux SOO .• 815 . • 800 .. 815

THIS DAY'S NEWS.

EXCHEQUER.-(THIS DAY.)
TRIAL AT BAR.-THE GREAT DISTILLERY CASE

THE ATTORNEY. GENERAL V. GEORGE SMITH,
THE SUMMING UP BY THE CHIEF BARON,

At 10 o'clock the Court was crowded in consequence of its
being generally understood that the proceedings would on this day
be brought to a termination,

Shortly after that hour the Lord Chief Baron, Mr. Baron Rolfe,
and Mr. Baron Platt entered the Court, and the names of the
juryrnen having been callad ever,

The LORD CHIEF BARON proceeded to sum up. After reciting
the different counts in the information, his Lordship said that the
jury would have only to deal with the first five, those which re-
lated to the alleged illegal communication between the distillery
and the rectifying. house, and as all these referred to the same cir-
cumstance the verdict of the jury need only be taken on one of
these counts. The case had lasted a very considerable time, much
evidence had been received, and the question had excited intense
interest, not only en account of the magnitude of the penalties
claimed, but as it related to the public commerce generally. lie
thoueht with the Learned Counsel for the defence that the decision
would turn upon the question of law; but in order
to put the gentleman of the jury in possession of the outlines of the
case, and of such facts as were proved before the Court, he should
advert, very briefly hswever, to its general history as they had it
it in evidence. The Learned Judge then proceeded to explain the
process of distillation as carried on upon the premises; the law as
passed in 1817 and the law of 1825, which still further amended
the previous Act, and provided that distilleries should be removed
to a distance of a quarter of a mile from rectifying-houses, so as
to prevent the surreptitious conveyance of spirits from one work
to the other. That Court and jury had nothing to do with the
policy of the law, but whatever the law is fairly to act up to it.
But as far as it might be important to the feelings of the jury to go
on with the Legislature, he ought to state that it had been thought
proper to make a variety of regulations, in:many of which there were
prohibitions of the means of committing fraud, whether fraud were
committed or not, and prohibitions even of the semblance of the
means. For instance, there were many prohibitions of the means
of forgery, and they went so far, that if you had even any paper
resembling the paper used by the Bank of England without using
it—without even any intention of using it--to make it an offence.
Therefore, upon this question of law, he laid it down, entirely
with the concurrence of the Court, that the meaning of the Act of
Parliament was, that—without any inquiry whether the " way,
means, or communication." had or had not been used—it was
apparent that the Legislature thought it necessary, for the protec-
tion of the revenue—which, as they heard in evidence, amounted
to 6,000,0001. per annum—to prohibit the means of committing
fraud, whether these means should or should not, might or might
not, have been used. The Act containing the prohibition to which
he was now referring passed in the year 1825; and it was diffi-
cult to suppose that it passed without The attention of those who
7of inquiry, that took place—did
n
were engaged in these important matters being drawn to its pro..
visions.
befbWhateverrethe tookthem,
anpdl place a
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legitimate— subjectsank in importance compared with what took place or might or ought
otappear
to have taken place, or might be expected to take place in 1825. It
was difficult to imagine, considering the immense importance of
this concern to the Government, that there should not have been
a strict individual examination of any new law relating to it; and
it was difficult to imagine that the effect of the law would escape
the attention of those against whom it was directed. But
whether or not is now, to us, in this inquiry, unimportant.
it became law in 1825, and the question before them was, whether
it had been broken or not—or, in other words, whether the two oc-
cupations of distiller on one premises, and of rectifier on another,
carried on respectively on those premises, being situated within the
distance of a quarter of a mile, and there being " any way, means,
or communication," by which spirits or wash could be conveyed
from one to the other. It appeared that no change took place in
the respective premises of the Messrs. Smith Nor did any thing
appear to have been done until 1836, and then alterations were
made in the western part of the premises. An open trench was
made between the two premises. It was made in the face of open
day. No part of the ground on the premises was taken up. There
was no digging but on the highway. His Lordship then
read the evidence of the officers Kirby and Jacques,
who saw the opening made, and who said that they
had no idea that it was intended for a water-pipe to
communicate between the two premise.. In 1838 Jacques
had his attention brought to it, but lie did not think
about it, or he would have communicated the matter to his
superior, Phillips. Long before that, the pipe which the jury saw
on the model before them crossed the road, and furnished water to
the building on the other side, that is the granary,
or spout house
No. 2, connected with the distillery. Then it had a branch turn.
ing to the left, and supplying water to the stable. That pipe
when put down could not he cut off by any stop.cock at that time.
But in 1838, at which time, according to the evidence, the whole
of the communication was pulled down, and the out-premises re-
built, a stop-cock was put to the pipe, at the suggestion of
the turncock of the East London Water Company ; and, as was
shown by the surveyor of the Company the cock
and pipes were furnished by the Company. When this
was done any one walking through the street could see it,
and would suppose that it was a cock under the control of Mr.
Smith. His Lordship then referred to the several entries made
from time to time by Mr. George Smith, according to successive
Acts of Parliament ; and in those entries the branches to the
dwelling. house and stables are mentioned, but the branch to the
rectifying-house was not mentioned. He was disposed to agree
with the Counsel for the defendant, that if the latter branch had
been mentioned in the entry—altheugh even then the law would
be broken—there would be an appeal to the Crown, which could
scarcely be made in vain. For, if that had been stated, and no
step taken by the Excise authorities to prevent its continuance,
there would he good ground for an application to stay these pro-
ceedings, on the ground that the defendant had given a fair de-
seription—had complied with the law—and had given every re-
quired information to the Excise. Considering, how..
ever, the state of the law, the obvious meaning and
Intention of the Legislature in passing the law,
in 1817, and a more stringent law in 1825, he could not see a suf.
ficient reason for supposing, on the part of the defendant, that lay-
ing down the pipe in 1536 was not a subject for distinct and sepa.
rate description; or that the Excise should not have been distinctly
told that there was a communication between the buildings. That
was not done, nor was any entry made, nor description given of
the pipe, although the entry in 1840 had every other pipe carefully
described. It was the only branch omitted. Could it be supposed
that the active and acute-minded persons who conducted
this business thought it was only necessary to state how the
pipe went through the premises without saying where it went to ?
But the Court were all of opinion that the defendant was bound to
describe the pipe as connected with the rectifying house, which he
did not. (This emphatic sentence produced a palpable sensation
in the crowded Court.) His Lordship dun read in detail the evi-
dence relating to the Increase of the " drip," from which it ap-
peared that in the three years intervening between the two exa-
minations of the " drip," Mr. George Smith was liable to 3,0001.
a-year more duty than he was charged with, as the difference of
one-tenth of an inch gave four hundred gallons in a
fortnight, or eight thousand gallons in a year. But when the drip
was taken again in 1844, it was found that there was an increase
of another tenth, which gave an increase of sixteen thousand gal.
lons in the year, making Mr. Smith liable to 6,0001. a year more
than he paid. The officers considering in their own minds that,
notwithstanding this large excess of production, no excess, in all
this period, was found in the stock, except the com.
paratively small amount of twenty-eight gallons, which
were seized at one time, came to the conclusion that
there must be some means of getting the excess to the rectifying
house. This induced them to adopt the system of watching, through
the evidence respecting which his Lordship went minutely, dwell.
ing upon the manner in which the officers had their suspicions of a
communication by pipes aroused, namely, by observing the drip-
ping of water into the still-head. He remarked upon the
indirect answers said by the witnesses to have been given
by Mr. James Smith, and afterwards by Mr. George
Smith, when each wasksfirst asked about it ; then detailing
the experiment made by the officers, he put it to the jury whether
that was not conclusive that spirits " could" be conveyed by the
pipe from one building to the other. As to the statement that
the water in the dwelling-house, stables, and officers' room was for
several days tainted with spirits, taken for the purpose of showing
that the pipes could not he habitually used for passing spirits,
the jury would recollect that it in the experiment of the
officers, all smell of spirits were removed in a few minutes
from the principal course, by such a flow of water as was

then under their command. It was easy to understand that
a quantity of spirit would remain under these circumstances in the
branches ; and that the quantity of water which might have passed
through the whole system of pipes, throughout all its branches,
flowing with the velocity of a 30 foot pressure—equal to a whole
atmosphere—besides the pressure of the immense body of water in
the tank, would in a short time entirely clear away every particle
of smell. That, therefore, would not be so great an obstacle to the
use of this " way, means, or communication," for the conveying of
" spirits, worts, or wash." His Lordship then went carefully
through the evidence of the officers from the time of their first
discoveries and differences with Mr. George Smith to the seizure of
the premises in November last.

(The Learned Judge had not concluded his summing up when
our report left.)

CLERKEN WELL.-(THIS DAY.)
David Jennings, a well.dressed young man, living in Georgiana-
street, Camden.town, was charged with assaulting Police•
constable 144 S.

At half-past eleven o'clock last night the prisoner was making
a disturbancc in Seymour street, Euston-square, when the con-
stable interfered. The prisoner told the constable he was a d—d
thief, and that he (the prisoner) wds a gentleman. There-
upon he seized the constable by the collar, and shook him violently,
exclaiming, that the the d—d police made money by ribbing gen-
tlemen and unfortunate girls when they found them drunk. The
constable was removing him to the station.house when the pri-
soner again struck him violently.

Police-sergeant 7 S swore the prisoner used as bad language at
the police-station as he did in the street.

Mr. Comm, fined him I Os., or ten days' imprisonment.
Prisoner—This is common robbery. It is the second time
I have been caught in this manner. The money was paid,

MARLBOROUGH-STREET.
(THIS DAY.)
Henry Fagnell Bale, a young man, of respectable appearance,
was charged with stealing two cheques on the London and County
Bank, Lombard-street, for the amount, together, of 531. Zs.
It appeared that the prisoner had, for the last twelve months,
been a clerk in the employ of Mr. Lumley, the lessee of her Ma-
jesty's Theatre. On Saturday evening last Mr. Robinson, the
treasurer of the theatre, gave into the charge of the hall_
porter a note, containing the cheques in question, addressed
to Mr. Case, the cashier of the establishment, to be for-
warded on Monday morning. Early on Monday morning
the prisoner made application for the note to the porter,
who, knowing the situation he held, gave it to him.
The prisoner then proceeded direct to the London and County
Bank, and having got the cheques cashed, absconded. Information
was given to the police, and yesterday afternoon Sergeant Jonathan
Whitaker, of the detective force, succeeded in tracing out and ap-
prehending the prisoner, at No. 62, South-street, Chelsea, where
he was living with a young female, who passed as his wife. On his
person were found 151. 14s. 10d., a gold watch, and other articles,
end on the female twenty-two sovereigns. When made acquainted
with the nature of the charge on which he was apprehended, he
merely remarked that " it was a bad job," adding that the female
prisoner knew nothing about it. Whitaker also ascertained that
the prisoner had obtained a berth on board the brig Allan, now
lying in the river, off Shadwell, but, as yet, not chartered, and
that he had, out of the produce of the cheques, furnished himself
with an ample outfit. He had been to sea.

Mr. HARDWICK (to the prisoner)—What have you to say in
answer to the charge against you ? Prisoner—l cannot say under
what inducement I took the cheques, but I did take them, certainly.
He was committed to Newgate, to take his trial at the Central
Criminal Court.

SOUTHWARK.--(THIS DAY.)
Two men, named Arnold and Mackman, were charged before
Mr. Trail!, with stealing a great coat from the chaise of Mr. R.
Rawlings, of Fenning's Wharf.
A policeman stated that, on the preceding night, about nine
o'clock, being dressed in plain clothes, he saw a gentleman alight
from his chaise, at the corner of St. Thomas-street in the Borough.
Immediately afterwards he observed the two prisoners, whom he
knew to be thieves,: walk towards the chaise, and, while
one of them watched, the other took the coat out
of the chaise, and both ran away. They were pursued
by a young man, in the ccnrse of which Arnold was seen to put
the coat on during his flight, but the young man was afraid to take
him into custody owing to the number of thieves about at the time.
A policeman, however, being made acquainted with the route
taken by the yrisoners, succeeded in apprehending them, but they
contrived to get rid of the coat.

Mr. TRAILL said that he should commit the prisoners, but w.3uld
remand them in order that the coat might be found.

RAILWAY COMMITTEES

(THIS DAY.)

Group V.
GRIMSBY AND SHEFFIELD JUNCTION LINE.
FRIDAY, FIFTH DAY.

The Committee assembled at twelve o'clock, when
Mr. DYNCOURT addressed the Committee, and said that, in con-
sequence of a negotiation that was now pending between the parties,
he had every reason to believe that an arrangement would be made,
by which all further time and trouble would be saved ; and he
therefore now begged the Committee would be so kind as to adjourn
till Monday.

The CHAIRMAN asked, was there a high degree of probability that
such an arrangement would be made, or was it still an uncertainty ?
Mr. AUSTIN, on behalf of petitioners, said he hoped the Corn.
mittee would accede to the proposition of his Learned Friend on
the other side, for he had no doubt but that a great deal of time
would be saved by it both to the Committee and the public ; but on
the other hand if the Committee should resclve to go on, he was
prepared to do so the end; but if they did the public would suffer
by it.

The CHAIRMAN said the Committee were also desirous to go on
if there was not a fair degree of probability that the arrangement
would take place.
Mr. AUSTIN said it was almost certain, at least there was a
fair degree of probability that such an arrangement would
take place as would save all further loss of time. In Ler, what
they now had to dispose of were mere matters of detail, for there
was no difference as to principle. His own opinion was that the
Committee might very safely adjourn te Tuesday next, if such would
be more convenient.

A Member of the Committee asked—Suppose they did adjourn
to Tuesday, and then found an arrangement had not been come to,
how many more days would be required ?
Mr. AUSTIN—Not more than two or three days at the utmost ;
certainly before the holidays.

The Committee, then, after a short conference, agreed to ad.
journ to Tuesday next at twelve o'clock.

GLASGO W AND EDINBURGH RAILWAY (BRANCH TO

ALLOA).
Group DD.

The Committee reassembled this morning at the usual hour,
and immediately proceeded to business.
Sir T. PHILLIPS opened the proceedings by calling
Mr. Andrew Roy, brewer at Alloa, who stated that the present
population of the town amounted to 9,000 or 10,000 inhabitants.
The distance between Alloa ani Stirling was eight miles, and from
Alloa to the Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway was about nine miles,
He was in the habit of sending his ales to every part of the coun.
try, and he considered that Alloa had a greater claim for a rail-
way, as far as goods traffic was concerned, than the town of Stirling.
Mr. Burrell, commission agent and magistrate at Dunfermline,
was then examined. He stated he was well acquainted with
the trade and manufactures of Dunfermline. The principal
commodities dealt in were table linen and covers, and there
was also considerable traffic in shipping. The cotton was chiefly
obtained from Perth and Glasgow, and large quantities were con-
sumed. The goods when manufactured were, for the most part,
conveyed to London by sailing.vessels. Traffic was transmitted
every day, by carriers, from Dunfermline to Glasgow. If the Alloa
branch of the Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway were made, he should
send his goods by it in preference to any of the present modes
of conveyance, and its construction would confer a considerable
benefit on that part of the country. If there was no branch to
Alloa, and a railway to Starling, he should transmit his goods by
cart to Falkirk, and from thence by the Edinburgh and Glasgow
Railway. He was acquainted with the fact that a railway was
projected between Alloa and Dunfermline, which, if made, would
afford a perfect communication with Glasgow.

The next witness called was Mr. Bullock, a farmer and grazier,
at Stirling. He had seen and examined the traffic tables but in
by the Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway, and considered them cor-
rect. There were three trysts in the year at Stirling, at one of
which a cattle-fair was held, and the two remaining trysts were ap-
propriated to sheep_markets.
Sir THOMAS PHILLIPS then called Mr. William Marshall, of
Shores-clue office, who stated that he had provided the data for cal.
culating the traffic tables, from which Mr. Anderson, an accountary,
had prepared his estimates. The results had been gathered from
actual observation, way-bills, and other authentic sources.
Mr. Anderson, accountant in Glasgow, on examination, said,
that he had reckoned for the passengers traffic between Perth and
Stirling the sum of 4,7891., to which he bad added a further
amount of 76531. for road money. The return which had been
made by the Scottish Central Railway for the passengers traffic was
not correct. In the general goods traffic he had not included the
shipping trade between Dundee end Glasgow. He
had put down the amount to be derived from the
traffic in goods at 6,329/. The number of travellers who
went to the south of Stirling he had calculated at 123,262, and
those who went to the north of Stirling, as far as Perth, at
43,272. The amount in tons of goods conveyed to the south
of Stirling was 24,534, and traffic to the north 19,249 tons.
The average rate per mile which would be charged for each pas-
senger was Id., and the total estimated revenue which would
result from the Edinburgh and Glasgow branches amounted to
15,163/. 10s. 9d.

Mr. J. Wright, mining engineer at Dalkeith, was examined as to
the quality of the Fifeshire and Bannockburn coal-fields, and their
present means of conveyance to the neighbouring places. In his
opinion the line of the Scottish Central Railway was not conveni.
ently situated for the transmission of coals from the localities he
had mentioned ; the preference would be given to the Edinburgh
and Glasgow. Coals must be sold at 10s. per ton at the pit's mouth,
in order to supersede the use of peat.
Mr. Horne, land valuer at Clackmannan, stated, in his examina
tion, that the quantity of land necessary to be taken for the con.
"struction of the Stirling and Alloa branches, inclusive, would be
163 acres, which, at a fair valuation, would be worth 19,9374
Mr. Miller, civil engineer, was then called. He said he had
been engaged for many years most extensively in the construction
of railways. The original capital of the Edinburgh and Glasgow
Railway was 1,200,000/., but a considerable sum had subsequently
been expended. The returns had yielded a return of 41 and 5 per
cent. on the outlay. There were five different classes cl
carriages used on the line, one of which was appro.
priated to the poorer classes, who were cenveyed at
a charge not exceeding d. per mile. The Edinburgh and
Glasgow line forms a most unobjectionable trunk-line for the north
of Scotland, and equally accommodates Edinburgh, Glasgow, and
Stirling. The districts of Alloa and Stirling are highly impor.
tant on account of the traffic which exists between those places
and the north and south of Scotland. The country around Stir-
ling is rich In agricultural produce and abounds in mineral waters.
Stirling would form the must convenient central point of rest for
different lines of railway to converge in. The line as laid out be.
twcen Falkirk and Stirring was highly favourable, and was to be
preferred to the Scottish Central, owing t) the comparative low po-
sition of the land through which it passed.

Group B.
The Committee re-assembled at the usual hour tt,is morning,
and proceeded with the evidence in the case of the
LEEDS AND WEST RIDING JUNCTION LINE.
Mr. Sergeant BELLASIS informed the Committee that he was
prepared with a large mass of other engineering evidence; but to
save the time and meet the views of the Committee he was instructed
to state that the promoters would be content to let their case rest
upon the evidence they had already given. Mr. Hawkshaw would,
however, be re-called to explain one portion of his testimony.
Mr. Hawkshaw accordingly explained those points, but they
were of no material importance. The explanation related to a
severe gradient lying between Enamel and Halifax, and only went to
confirm what he had before stated, and what is already a well-as-
certained fact, namely, that a stationary engine is not now requi.
site or necessary for carrying heavy trains up steep inclines.
This closed the engineering evidence.
Mr. Benjamin Cariss, a solicitor, at Leeds, had a general know.
ledge of the electors of the West Riding of Yorkshire, and could
state, from his own knowledge, that the majority of them were in
favour of the Leeds and West Riding Junction line. He was
engaged to get up the petitions in favour of the line.
On cross. examination, he said he paid men 6s. a day to procure
the signatures of county electors to these petitions, and in the case
of burgesses and municipal electors he paid the men 4s: Gd for every
hundred signatures they procured.

TRAFFIC EVIDENCE.
Mr. AUSTIN suggested that, as the traffic evidence was common
to both Bills, would it not be better to postpone it until the Corn.
mittee, agreed to the resolutions they would have to report to the

House, stating their reasons for selccting one of the two lines as
the best ?

The CHAIRMAN concurred with the suggestion of the Learned
Counsel, but it could only be posti,oned by the consent of both
parties.

Mr. BAINES, however, declined to agree to a postponement, and
the traffic evidence was proceeded with.
Mr. S. D. Martin, a land surveyor of Leeds, had been employed
to value the land of the West Riding line, lying between Copley
mills and Leeds, and he estimated it at 49,725/. He had also
valued the land from Low Moor to Dewsbury, and estimated it at
27,0001. In his opinion the line interfered with no ornamental
grounds or buildings

Captian Lewes, the traffic manager of the Manchester and Leeds
Railway, said the original estimate of that line was 1,300,000/.
The line was sixty miles, but they had abandoned ten miles since
it was first started. The line had actually had expended on it
upwards of 3,000,0004 One of the tunnels alone cost very nearly
300,000/. The Leeds Company was the first that ever tried third-
class carriages and low fares in England, and their example
had since been followed by other companies. During the last year
the number of persons that travelled over the Leeds line, by first-
class carriages, was 94,119 ; the number by second-class was
318,970; and the number by third.class was 1,102,285, showing
a relative per centage of six per cent. for first-class, 21 per cent.
for second, and 73 per cent. for the third. Originally, third-class
carriages were made light, and without seats, so as to relieve the
engine as much as possible, but lately the Company had determined
to have seats made to the carriages and closed partitions round
them. The poorer classes mostly availed themselves of the
third-class carriages, but they were not confined exclusively
to the poorer classes. He had frequently seen banker s,
magistrates and such persons, who ought to travel by first-class
carriages, going by the third. If the West Riding lines were in
the hands of the Leeds and Manchester Company, they could
work them much cheaper and much more for the
convenience of the public than by an independent
company. An independent company would hardly make
their working expenses, but at all events they would never
be able to pay 2 per cent. on their capital. 'The Manchester and
Leeds Company ran ten through-trains a day, but if the West
Riding lines fell into the hands of an independent company,
they would not be able to run half that number.

Group 0.

The Committee met at the usual hour.

It having appeared that two gentlemen, one named Wesley,
being written to to attend before the Committee, and not complying
with the request made to them, the Chairman said he would attend
to the matter at four o'clock.

Mr. Ridgway, one of the landowners in the Pottery districts, who
had been under examination when the Committee adjourned yes-
terday, was recalled this morning and re-examined by Mr. Forsyth.
He stated that he was now an opponent of the proposed line. He was
formerly in favcur of what was called the Crescent line, that was
to say, a line between Stoke and Crewe upon the one hand, and
Stoke and Stafford on the other. He was now opposed to that
line. He was present at the meeting in October last. There were
a great many influential persons present. Up to the 24th of
January in the present year his opinion in favour of the Crescent
line remained unchanged. He was a Director of the North Staf-
fordshire line. The shares were not aliotted yet. He was very
anxious to have a " through-line" through the Potteries, that was a
line from Manchester to London, directly through the Pottery dis-
trict. It was their wish to have a line from Stoke to Crewe.
Re-examined—He was in favour of the best crescent line he
could get. He was inclined to support the Grand Junction in the
line:to Bassford at the meeting of the' iSth of October, but he was in
a very small minority. The meeting was decidedly in favour of the
line from Birkenhead to Staffbrd. As a Director of the Trent
Valley he had no reason to suppose that they would make a line
from Stoke to Stafford. The making of that line would, in his
opinion, interfere with the new arrangements entered into with the
Churnet Valley Company and the Trent Valley Company, but the
arrangements were not so far matured as to enable him to spe:.k
with certainty on that point.

Mr. G. Bidder, C.E., was then called and examined by Mr.
Mseautav—Considering the utility of a line from Stoke to Crewe
as part of a more extended line, he did not think that the line to
Bassford was the best line tna: might be selected. The witness
Proceeded to state the reasons of this opinion, and was going to
give evidence upon the superiority of the projected scheme to the
proposed line now before the Committee, when Mr. Cockburn ob-
jected to his doing so.

The room was cleared, and on the parties being called in,
The CHAIRMAN stated that the Committee were of opinion that
Mr. Bidder might give his general opinion as to the rival schemes,
but that his engineering evidence should be given for or against
the line before them, and should be confined to that.

Examination continued—Witness was well acquainted with the
country from Stoke to Contemn and from Stoke to Bassford.
With regard to the communication by Bassford to Crewe, the line
which the Grand Junction had chosen was not the best
in his opinion. The line by Harecastle would give a
less summit than the other line. It would not be a more expen.
sive line, and would afford more convenience to the Potteries
district. The line to Bassford would have to go over a hill 100
feet higher than if the line were taken by Harecastle. There
was a descent of 16 feet In the line from Bassford
to Crewe. These were seven miles of the line from Stoke to
Bassford, in which the gradient was lin 100. In the other
line these were but 21 miles, in which the gradient was so bad as
I in 110. It would be more convenient to join the Grand
Junction line at Crewe than at Bassford. If the line were
made to Bassford the branch train would have to leave Stoke
earlier than would be necessary if the line were made
to Crewe direct, in order to get to Crewe before the mall train
from Birmingham. He was sure that no competent engineer
who was left unfettered would, upon being directed to select the
best line from Crewe to Stoke, select any other route than by
Harecastle.

Group E.
NEWCASTLE AND DER WICK LINE.

The Committee continued this morning to hear further evidence
in favour of this line.

Mr. Robert Stephenson (in examination continued from yes-
terday)— Expense of haulage on the main line he calculated to be
5001. a mile per annum, and 3001. a mile on the tranch line.
He considered that the expense of locomotive power would be
much more than that of the Newcastle and Berwick line.
The number of trains on the Newcastle and Carlisle
line running daily he ceuld not tell exactly, but he did
think that the passenger trains were very numerous. The ex-
pense of locomotive power was greater in consequence of so many
unfavourable gradients, whereas the gradients on the Newcastle
and Berwick line were favourable. The annual expense of the
proposed line he considered would be about 50,000/. per annum.
The expense of locomotive power did not vary in consequence of
an additional power. There was hardly one expense which was
governed by the mileages, not even that of coke, though it came
very near it. He did not know the expense and number of
watchmen required on the line. There ought to be two watch-
men at each crossing of a public rood, who would perhaps receive
eighteen shillings a week wages. He contemplated working en-
gines at half the expense of those worked on the London and Bir-
mingham line, being able to procure coke at a much less expense
than they were able to procure it on the Birmingham line. A com-
bination of management on the Newcastle and Darlington and
Newcastle and Berwick lines was intended, which would be in his
opinion productive of benefit to the public in the reduction of the
conveyance of goods.

CHAIRMAN—How could it benefit the public?
Witness—The original conveyance was very imperfect, but now
the goods would pass through without any inconvenience ; it would
not only produce economy, but also dispatch.
Mr. Dodson was then examined—ls an engineer. Was of opi-
nion that the character of the buildings ever which the projected
line would pass in Newcastle were of an inferior kind. It passed
but small houses and small manufactories. He contemplated
erecting a bridge on the Newcastle and Carlisle line, which would
cost 75,000/.

Cross-examined by Mr. ALEXANDER —The bridge would be
about 100 feet longer than that projected by Mr. Stephenson.
The passing of the viaduct would not be of great inconvenience
to the inhabitants of Newcastle, inasmuch as it would not pass
any of the streets in which the principal traffic of the town
was carried on. He projected the bridge for the Newcastle
and Carlisle Railway two years ago, about two hundred yards
above Mr. Stephenson's bridge. _ _

To the CHAlRMAN—The-
bridge proposed by Mr. Stephenson
was the one most acceptable to the people of Newcastle.

Mr. Robert Wallace examined—ls town-surveyor of New.
castle. He was of opinion that the passing of the
projected line through the town was unobjectionable. It woulu
pass only one street of any importance. The inhabitants preferred
one bridge for the railway and traffic purposes to two bridges—one
for each purpose.

Cross-examined by Mr. ALEXANDER—MS reason for thinking
so was, that the town council were unanimously of that opinion.
The CHAIRMAN said that they had heard enough to enable them
to make up their minds as to the benefits which wouldbe derived by
Newcastle.

Mr. AUSTIN—WeII, my Lord, it is our intention not to call any
more witnesses on that matter.

Mr. ALEXANDER said he had not heard a word as to the value
of the land that was to be crossed.

Mr. AusTtN—lf you do not admit the value proved we wi,
call witnesses, and you will be forcing them on the Committee.

Mr. ALEX&NDER—We dispute, then, the estimates cf the value
of the land.

Group X.

The Committee to whom this group was referred assembled again
at twelve o'clock. Present—Lord Courtenay, Chairman; Mr.
Darby, Mr. P. Scrope, Mr. Mg(lea.chy, and Mr. B. Wall.
LONDON AND YORK RAILWAY.
The Rev. J. Faithful, of Halifax, was called, and examined by
Mr. Sergeant KINGLAKE—He stated that the poor in the neigh.
bourhood st.ffered severely in consequence of the dearness and
scarcity of coal. This had an unfavourable effect on the mcrals of
the people, inasmuch as it prevented them from remaining 'at
home. A railway between Hatfield and London would be of grout
advantage.

This witness was cross.examined, but nothing material was
elicited.

Mr. Anson, a miller at Ilitchin, stated that he had for many
years ceased sending flour to London. This was in consequence of
the expense of conveyance. if a railway was made he would send
flour to London again. In that case he would produce more flour,
as he believed would the other millers. In his neighboui hood
they had a considerable quantity of water power, which was at
present useless. Witness had no connexion with the London arid
York Railway.

Mr. TALBOT—YOU are a man of sense, Sir,—(Laughter.) He
would prefer the London and York line to the Hertford and Ware
line. The one would by eight miles shorter than the other.
The witness was subjected to a long cross.examination, in the
course of which he admitted that the millers of Hitchin were
opposed to a line to Hertford and Ware inasmuch as at these two
places there were several millers.

Sub-Committee No. 3.
This Committee assembled this morning, present Mr. Aglionby
(Chairman), Mr. T. Egerton, Mr. L. Buller, Mr. TAornely, Captain
Jones, arid Mr. Aldam.
The Committee commenced their proceedings by calling on the
adjourned case of
THE EASI'ERN UNION AND HARWICH RAILWAY
PIER.
Mr. VENABLES submitted the remaininvallegations in the pc.
tition against the promoters.
Several allegations of merely a clerical, nature, such as inaccu.
recics in the books of reference, were allotted to be sustained by the
promoters' agent.
'I he Clerk of the Peace for Chelmsford was called to prove the
plans produced before the Committee were copies of the plans de-
posited at his office.
The CHAIRMAN said he wished to draw the attention of the wit-
ness to e; stain markings in pencil on the plans which were fur
public ii.spection in the office of the Clerk or the Peace for the
county of Essex.
The witness said he knew nothing of them ; when the plans
were deposited he took no notice of the pencil marks; they might
have been on when deposited, or subsequently, as every person
who thought proper to look at them had the opportunity of marking
them.
The CHAIRMAN—Have you not a sealed copy of them ?
Witness—l have them here.
The CliAtainazi—Let them be put in, and the clerk will write
on them " opened by the order of the Committee."
The plans were then put in and examined by the Comm:ttee, and
the (Onion expressed by the Chairman was that the plans dis.
agreed in a trifling instance.

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We understand that the first match of cricket in
which Sussex is engaged will be with the Marylcbone Club and
Ground. It is expected to take place in London on May 19th.
EARLY LUXURIES.--Yesterday meriting there was
a supply of green peas in Covent_garden.market, being the first
which has been exhibited there for the season. These are not the
products of this country, but imparted from Lisbon and a small
island in the neighbourhood of Malta. The supply of cherries,
strawberries, French beans, cucumbers, &c., is on the increase,

E'S SHIPPING.-(THIS DAY')
LONDON, MAY 2.—Wind S.W., fresh breeze,and flne.
Earl
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London for New York.
WE m 0 .TH, MAY I.—The vessel re, orted
as havinbher,
sized in Pot tlard Race, 27th ult., has been towel
W. s.—Arrd,
and proves to be the Swallow, Furlev, of London, from
stow to Portsmouth, with timber.
FA 1,7\11 I.—Wind W.S.W., fresh.--The Sarah,
from Newport to New York, which ut in here fresh—The
with cargo shifted, has been surycved, and commenced
charging.! b
JERSEY, APRIL 29.—Arrd. IFghlander, camel, .
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SWAN:,.;F,A, APRIL 30.—Arrd. Circassian, Drury' ,Cuba.
STRANRAER, APRIL 30.—The Royal Consort steamer,
and ran ash ore
Fleetwood to Ardrossan, touched the ground,
last night on the east side of the Mull of Galloway Very
leakyand passengers saved. ath t°
Sr. IvEs, APRIL 29.—The Agnes, Richards, from •,-e- ;
H w•
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crew saved.
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fugos. 29.. Lyna, Neilson, Matanzas ; George, BasS'
Croix, both fro Hambugh. Per
OFF PoRTLANDm , ApRILr 30.—Anna Rebecca, Korey-'nambuc;). from
CARDIFF, APRIL ::',o.—The William and Matthew,n the
.Rouen, and the Albion, of Grirstadt, were in contact %ler-
25th inst. in the Mid Channel, the former received col3'
abPonTn cle damage. Oide-
forsdl, H REitc.ph Alvi., APRIL 30.—A boat marked a
'9".-7'sh iftendh Pringle, from loaded
np off this yesterdaton;
was in contact on the 25th inst. in the Scorn, with $
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sloop.
OFF For.EEsToNE.—Calypso, Fltringham, Jao33ictteirert'
Conti-, 29.—Wind S.W.—Arrd. Mari TOY,
Drury, Mauritius; Cleopatra, Davis, Frederick Hell,
Lady Lil'erd, Scott, Lewins, Cox, South Esk, Ohio William Rushton, Foster, Ichaboc. Ickarbe'
YARMOUTH ROADS, FAY b`"ieu in
rough, and Alert, of Shields, with damage, have
contact. -nralte, o.f
ICHABOE.—Copes of documents from Captain M dolls
H.M. steamer Thunderbolt have been forwarded toll()); tbe
morning from the Admiralty. It relates to the repos•st the
Committee of Management for rezulatmg the affaqebnlarY
abe,ve island. 'the Committee was dissolved prior to traCe
ofl9, owing to the speedy termination removed Uan&ptgift
,
the island, the guano being all bear
Broke writes as follows to Admiral Percy: "1 d,.° %ice to
that any other deposits of the manure worthy or 0- atler
the northward; many vessels have returned herein 20
a fruitless search for such. Record Island d
that
deg. 6 min., being the only one I can hear of,,avo there
so small in dimensions as to render it impossible P'T Duren
can be more than two or three ships load on it. '-
leaving this as early as possible to proceed under 51 00(13
southward as far as 28 deg. S., to inspect the 001/ uear
between that latitude and this (Ichaboe), where osel9
few vessels are loading. There are now seven% the Iv
here, many of which are on the point of leaving, an
mainder waiting to complete their period of lay der'