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non eould, grant in the hands of his Ruyal Highness
would be beneficial to the country.. .
Si( S. Rota tivi.v. had no intention of detaining
the House, btu he felt himself called upon to reply to
toe tAiservations of the Right Hon. Gent: who had.
just sit down, and who had , .so anxiouttly defended
the memory of Nlr,- Pitt. After so long a debate, it
was with rvaljtance that he delay ed the divisibn, but
trusted he srhuld stand excused, wishing n$ .he did,
to defend, himself against the Right. Honourable
G,,utleman's mut( k. l lt, den'ed living iwroduced
that topicinto the dirur.ton. The ItiOtt Hon. Gen-
tleman must isavt• Ichowo IhM tho liiitne of Mr. Putt.
was inti9ductoo by himself stirpott,o( the inert).

0.1788. Said that lac was mini:tautly
obliged to deport from ih3t preeetieni beeatie it w.
of Mr. Pitt', He (Sir wctod
a...kr:fined of his rooduia, it at am time he had made
Any obsetvation disrespeettol to Mr. or said any
11164 refit:TA:log improperly or taint:Fes, .rely on his
memory, but it wai part 'of .his :Algot ent to use his
taame. In candour he won't! asK the Login Hon,
Gentleman, %vhetlwr lie dal' not thitt:; tht. name ot
Mr. Pitt waS used by the sa, rill-v.3ot ln!'precedent
clt 7sB tri,give weight to it ? There was no one
itr- sent oi ho could inti‘ute o lion (Sir Salmi 'I) t hat
Itt wil4 ambitions of being the hero destnibed by the
1a ;hC Honntirable',Gentleman, who, in defeating
like charte.ter of • ihat person, \ had charged , him
with having ca u rmiHird that. char:icier. In giv-
iaalY the opinion which he *had done C)11 the last
ro, iong, I,e had not bern;c3iiiseinus of using any
calumny, Ile bad' merely said, that it was tint Nut-
, ifeirnt for man to possess splendid talon's to entitle
him to the appellation of a great Stalesnian. He
oitighi to take every opliortunity to improve the eon•
diriOtt of s, cloy. st.oold have been 'hippy it
030411301 Jinn. Gentlem .an had po'nitd out to 111111
the instances in which Mr. Pitti had improved or
believed the condition of hiohktod. lie wished
,that the Right Hon, Gentleman had pointed otn
what part of his Majesty's ticruttttto.ls such ;IC:lei of
anreliotation were pelornied. It ht would dti 1.0, it
• would be the study of hint (Sir Samuel)
tice to the',memory rat Mr. Pitt as a great
Mr. (.TANNING, it) expi ILN, obser-
vations in respeos to the manner in which the vane
ol Mr. Pitt had been mentioned. ,
Sir F. IioRDETTi alluding to what had just passed,
• declined that the zeal of the Right ,Hon. ,

appeared to him very unbecoming. and hoped the re-
cept ion it had oeperieneedwould pie nt his betray-
, ing the same teetings tor tt,e time to come. Will
0 kpea to the '117t1110), of Mr. Pitt, whom he hid
.J lu)wn from' ilavihg, tbr the period of yc;ns bt can

a close observer of his crandal, tbe pativgyri,,, of the:
Right Won. Gimtleman ttiati in fats a paneg) is of the
system of which Mr. l'itt was the head. 11t h.,d
ish to add to'the %Ninth w hich had been expresied
.4,1 n the subtod, and it was his Wish to irsi:•tve the oh-
set vations he had to make on the memory' of
Pitt, until the question had been discussed which
theft called for their :Mention.
Mr. PoNSONItY Itgivgllt rciletiion cast on the
Foxites undeserved. Mr. Fox. was hionstlf always
free hom envy aod malignity', and always ready to
du justice to the merits of an illustrious rival. Ile
Maimd his folleowers were ae,itim-eil by similar feel.
jogs.: Too much wounth 'had' b. ett expressid on
both sides of time Muse, which he hopi:d would be
. forgotten, nod never repe.ited.
Mr.,CANNING t. X pr,sied his approbation of the
condutt,of the Right (;i!ntleinan : such an at.-
Ictim,vledgment %VIP; all desired.
Mr Vs tTnti nal), in reference to what' lilt! fallen
float the Bight 1101.1. Giqfflettlail opposite, who
tteeitivd to consider himself as exclosivel), the hien&
of Mr. Pitt, rose to say ,(though he did not look upon
himself as exclusively the friend of Mr. Fox), he
did not wish himself to be regarded as included in
'the acknowledgment made by his Right flott.Priend.
The question,being then loudly called for, stran•
gers.were ordered to withdraw and a division took
place, when the numbers wete-•••
For the A tri:ocitileot
ity,aiost
Majority ill Livourot the Attunuirtlent -- 3
Adjourned at,balt•pist twothii murnini.

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FRE2 C.ll PAPERS.

iprpoßT OF THE MINV,TER Vna VoEEIGH AFFAIRS TO

Lilo MAJESTY TIIE latt'Elti)k AND XING.
[Cantbrurd tram reiterd.v.]

From that time the negociaticm languished,
'd 'be Ministers were neither sufficiently enlightened
.nor terni,erate to perceive the necosity of peace.
141,155151 excited by that spirit which England in.-
fused into all I,lrope, put hei troops in march,—
The Imperial Gtmrd ,reeleived orders to set outl
Lard 'Lauderdale appeared terrified at the canoe-
guanaco of the new evsnts'that were preparing. It
lens propose l to sign the treaty ; that Prurisia should
bey inclodedin it, and that the Confederation of the
.North of Germany should he recognized. Your
Majesty, with that spirit of moderation of which
you have given such frequent, examplP4 its Europe,
consented. The departure of the Imperial Goard
IVJgdulayti,l,for smut clays but Lord Lauderdale
btsitated he thought it necessary to send '4l:Ales.
woger to his Court, nod that Messenger brought
him an .order to return. In a few days alter
yrrissia no longer existed as a preponderating power.
‘, Posterity' will conslier that period as one of
the most decisive in she histories of England and of
Fronce.

";;--'fire Treaty of Tut put 311 Clld to the fourth
coalition. •
fit Two great Sovereigns, lately enemies, united
in offering peace to England but that Power, who,
notu ithstanding sill the forewarnings she had re-
ceived, could not bring herself to subscribe to con-
ditions which would 'eau France in a 'bore „Ivan.
iageons situation than she W 35 atter the 'Treaty of
Amiens, wonld not enter itro a negneiltion„lhe
avoidable con,evences of which would have been to
place France in a situation still more to her advan.
tage. 'We refused, it wax said in England, a
Treaty which Maintained the North of Germany,
ims*ia, Saxony, ileons, and Hanover independent
of France, and which secured all the outlets of our.

p trade; how, then; could we agree at this tit ma to
conclude with the .Emperor.oflhe French, when be
has extended the Confederation 'of the Rhine to the
North of Germano, and m found, on the banks of
the Elba, a `French Throne, a peace, which, by' the
course of things,. whatever the stipulations might be,
would leave under his influence Hanover and all the
ports of the North, those principal arteries of our
commerce
" Those (men who coolly took a view of the situ-
allot) of Eng,l end,
.replied:--Two coalitions, of
which 'each ought to • have lasted ten years, have
been varcjilshed in a few months; the new advan-
tages moulted by France 4e the Tenth of those
events, and England can no longer oppose them :
doubtless the treaty of Amiens ought never to have
been violated, It was,proper, in the next place, to
adhere to the prilicy of Fox. Let, us at least now
profit by tie lessons of experience, and avoid a
third mistake. Instead of throwing our eyes back
rct the past, let us turn them to the fut me: the
Peninsula is stilt opt ire, and diretited by a Govern-
ment secretly hosiile to France. Hitherto the weak-
ness of the Spanish Ministers, and the personal sen-
timants Ot the oid King, have retained Spain in the
sy dem of France.. A new teign 'will unfold the
get ins 'of hatred between the two nations. The Fa-
intly compact has been annihilated, and that is one
of tho advantages which England has derived font
the Revolution. /h//atid, .ihnugl/4 governed by a
ench Prince, enjoys her independence ; it is her, in-
terest to V 611,1111 afi the medium of our commerce
with the Continent, and to tavOUr that comnierce
for the purpose,: of partdking in its proti!s. Have
we not reason to fear, ahould the war be contitintql,
that Fiance may establish her influence in the Pe-
ninsula, and her Custom-houses in Holland ? •
" Such was the language of men who knew how
to penetrate into the secrk is of futurity. With pain
they saw the peace rejected, which was proposed by
Rtis,ht. They doubted not that the whole Conti-
nent would holm be ravished from England, and
that a Worder of things ,which it was iolposs;ble to
!nevem would be established in Spain and ie Hol
land.

" In the meat') whilevEngland demanded of the
HI.-use of Ilraganza,, that it should quit the Penin-
sula,..atid teke refuge: in the 'lnuits. The partisans
of the Engli,h Ministry sowed feuds among the
Princes of the House of Spain. The reigning dy-
nasty Was.removed for ever; and, in consequence of
the arrangernerns at Bayonne, a new Sovereign,
havirg with France one common powtr and, origin,
wai called' to the Qovernment of-Spain. • •
I
" The interview at Erfurt!). gave occasion to new'
propools for peace ; but they also were rejected.---
The same spirit which had broken off the negoeia-
lions of Lord Lauderdale direated the affairs ut
England.

'rite fifth coalition broke out, the new .events
of which again turned out advantageous to France.
The only posts by. winch England preserved an
avowed communication witb the Continent, toge-
ther with the Illyrian provinces, passed under the
power of your Majesty by the Treaty of Vienna,
and the Allies of the Empire beheld their power in-
ervaied.

" The British Orders in Council had overthrown
the laws of the commerce of the world; England,
whose whole existence is attached •to commerce, had
thus ulna Nn disorder , into' the. commerce of oilier
nations. She had contemnedalt its privileges. The,
decrees of Berlin and of Milan had
,repelled these
monstrous novehies. Holland found th .t her posi-
tion Was 'm difficult one ; her Got/et:went had nor
an ac:: ion sufficiently em-rgetic ; her MA-um-houses
atnrded 'too little security to permit that 'centre
of continental commerce to remain much longer
insulated from France. Your Majesty, for the
interests of your: people, and to, secure the exe-
cution of the system which you had oppos-
ed to the, tyrannical ad of England, saw , ;our-
self coMpelled to change the fate of Holland.--.'
"'Your Mbjesty,' nevertheless, constant in your
system, and in your desire of peace, gave .Ifaigland tee
understand 'that she could not preserve the indepen-
dence of Holland, but by recalling her Orders in
Council, or adopting pacific views, The ministers
Of a commercial nation treated with levity overtures
so greatly interesi;ng to its commerce. They re-
plied, that England had no power, over the fate of
Holland. Jn the illusions of their pride, they mis-
conceived the motives of that measure; they 'pre-
tended to see in it an acknowledgement of the effi-
cacy of their Orders in Council, end Holland was'.
united. Brice they would have it so, Sire, 1 think
it useful at this moment, and I propose to your Ma-
jetty to eonsolidate that union by a Senatus-Con-
sUlta.

The annexation of the' Hanseatic Tons of
Lauenburg, and Of the whole coast' from the Elbe
to the Ems, is commanded by circornotancos. That
territory is already under the dominion of your Ma.

" The immense warehouses at Heligoland would
al way threaten to inundam the Continent, if a single
point remained open to the English trade upon the
.coast of the North Sea ; and it the mouths of the
Jade, the Wetter, and the Elbe, were not for, ever
eloasclagainit her.

" The British Orders in Council have totally de=
stroyed the privilegeS of neutral navigation ; your
Majesty can no longer supply your arsenals, and
have a sure channel tor, your commerce with the
North, but by means of 'internal navigation. The
repairing and enlarging of the between Ham-
btngh and Lubeck, and 'the 'construction of a new
Canal, whiCh will unite the Elbe to the.Weser, and
the Weser to the tam, which will only require four
or five years labour, and, an expenditure of fifteen
or 20 millions, in a country, the soil of which otters
no physical obstacles, will open to the French rner-
chants a cheap, 64,, and saferoute. Your empire.
Cail always trade with the Baltic), convoy to the
North the produce of her soitand her manufactures,
and draw iron thence the attieles necessary for
your Majesty's navy.
" The flags of Hainburgh of Bremen, and of Lu-
beck, whfch at present wander on the seas, denati-
onalized by the British Orders in Council, will share
the talc of the'French flag, sad join with it, for the

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