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London, England, 1842-04-21 00:00:00

I have now only to add the judgment, as pronounced this day,
by M. Dessaux, the President, and of which the following is the
translation. _ .

againt the alteration proposed by the new tariff with
respect to the importation of live stock.
INCOME TAX.
Mr. P. SCROPE presented a petition from Stroud,
against the Income-tax.
Mr. BYNG presented a similar petition from 'lam-
mersmith.
Mr. EWART presented a similar petition from
Annan.
Sir R. IL INGLIS presented a petition from the
Church Society of Shepton Mallett, praying for in-
creased church accommodation.
Mr. SCOTT presented a petition against the Income-
tax.

I will endeavour to send also the French copy.

Considering that it results from instructions that Vivier
transported from Paris to Boulogne, and remitted to Mr. Barry,
of the Marine Hotel, a dispatch of the weight of 355 grammes,
and addressed to Mr. Marsh, Dover.
Considering that the Article 1 of the decision of the Consuls,
of the •27th Prairial, in the year 9, forbids every person who is
not in the service of the Post-office, to interfere or meddle
with the transport of letters, journals, pamphlets, &c., of the
weight of one kilogramme (about 21b. ), or less. Considering
that this disposition is general and absolute, and makes no dis
tinction between those who act contrary to the prohibition
which it establishes.

Mr. BOWES presented a petition from Durham,
against the proposed alteration in the duty on the im-
portation of live stock.
Lord G. SOMERSET brought up the Report of the
Committee of Selection.
LICHFIELD ELECTION.
The following Members were . appointed to try the
merits of the petition complaining of the undue return
for the borough of Lichfield, viz., Mr. Dundas, Mr.
Trotter, Mr. Gordon, Mr. Bellew, Mr. Mars) all, the
Hon. F. Scott, Mr. Fitzroy, and Mr. E. Divett, Chairman.
SOUTHAMPTON ELECTION.
The following Members were appointed to try the
merits of a petition complaining of an undue return for
the borough of Southampton, viz., Mr. R. Curties, Mr.
Godson, Mr. W. 0. Stanley, Mr. Bucke, Mr. Hutt, Mr.
Wiltshire, and Mr. Redington.
MEDICAL CHARITIES BILL.
An HoNe MEMBER wished to ask the Noble Lord, the
Socretary for Ireland, whether, in the Medical Charities'
Bill, which he was about to introduce, he intended to in-
sert a clause to provide for the government and support
of county infirmaries.
Lord ELIOT said he had no such intention at pre-
sent ; but if, in the discussion, he found the majority of
Irish Members in favour of such a clause, he would be
disposed to accede to their wish.
IPSWICH ELECTION—CASE OF LUCAS.
Mr. RIGBY WASON wished to drew the attention
of the House to the petitions of Obadiah Barwich Lucas,
who had been committed to Newgate for prevari-
cation, before the Ipswich Election Committee. It
was stated in the petition that the wife of
the prisoner was ill, and that the prisoner him-
self had been in a very distressed state since 1837.
He moved that it be referred to the Ipswich Election
Committee, and he hoped the House would assent to the
proposition. If the Committee now wished to examine
this man they could not do so without applying to the
Speaker for his warrant. Now it was most desirable
that this man should be examined before Com-
mittee, as he had stated he could and would
give them most important information. He hoped
the House would assent to his • motion, and he
would therefore move that the petition of Obadiah Bar-
wick Lucas be referred to the Select Committee appointed
to consider the merits of the petition complaining of an
undue election for Ipswich.
Mr. PAKINGTON, as Chairman of the Ipawich Elec-
tion Committee, felt called upon to state his reasons for
opposing the motion of the Hon. Gentleman opposite,
but before he did he wished to allude to a circumstance
to which, had he not been called upon to address the
House on the subject of this petition, he should not have
thought it worth his while to have alluded, he meant a
letter signed by the Hon. Member for Ipswich, which
had appeared in tqe Morning Chronicle, and he
only alluded to it to express his surprise that the Hon.
Member, after speaking to him (Mr. Pakington)
in the library of the House, to induce him to enter into
a brief conversation, should without consulting him (Mr.
Packington) on the subject, publish a report of that con-
versation in the morning papers.—(Cheers.) He (Mr.
Packington) would not allude to that subject further
than to say that he denied the accuracy of that report.
The petitioner applied to be discharged on two grounds,
one of which was the bad health of his wife. He had
thought it his duty to consult the Committee on those
two points, and he had to state it as their unanimous
opinion, that they could not think of again examining
him. With regard to the two questions, or any other
claim he might have to be discharged from Newgate, he
spoke the opinion of the majority of the Committee,
when he stated that that opinion remained entirely un-
changed. The Committee had beenplaced in very pain-
ful and difficult circumstances, the petitioners having to
substantiate their case by evidence taken from among the
political partizans of the opposite party, many of whom
were of the lower classes of society ; the consequence was,
that there was a great deal of prevarication and unwilling
giving of evidence, in some cases apparent perjury.
The Committee had been forced in several instances to
caution the witnesses severely how they gave their evie
dence, and that if they persevered its such conduct, the
Committee would be compelled to resort to the powers
with which It was invested. After repeated cau-
tions, this witness was guilty of repeated prevarica-
tions, and the case was all the worse from the
respectability of the party. The indignation TA* the Com-
mittee had been very great on finding a person filling
the situation of innkeeper, charged with corrupting
others. He had been guilty, in four several ine
stances, of self-contradiction, confirmed by the testi-
mony of other witnesses, and as far as it was possible-to
judge of the motives of another, his intention millet have
been nothing but deliberate falsehood. The teetition prayed
for his release on distinct and separate g'rounds, and al-
leged the dangerous state of his 7:ife. Retaining its
own opinion, the Committee eke,' not interfere with the
judgment, discretion, and compassion of the House.
With respect to the jurt„iction of the House of Com-
mons with regard to controverted elections, he for one
would be slo7; Ito part with that privilege. He was
watchin;
with great anxiety the result of the experi-
-1
1 me"..;,. Ile was aware that some Hon. Members had very .
recently expressed an opinion that it would be a failure.
With great submission, in his humble opinion, he thought
that was a premature judgment. It appeared to him
that a Committee of the House of Commons was called
upon, in trying election petitions, to look with peculiar
jealousy on the nature of the evidence brought be-
fore them. Great part of that evidence was given by
persons who were strong partisans. The witnesses were
liable to great temptations, not knowing the Courts of
Justice ; and in cases of prevarication he thought that
the powers given by law to the Committee should always
be en&rced. It was on these grounds that the Commit-
tee had acted as they had done. .
Mr. RIGBY WASON said, that after what had been
stated by the Hon. Member, he should best consult the
feelings of the House by merely moving that the
petition do lie upon the table. The Hon. Member also
presented two petitions on the same subject; one of which
was from the sisters of Lucas.
The original motion was then withdrawn, and the
petitions were ordered to lie on the table.
On the motion of Lord STANLEY, the Order of the
Day for the House going into Committee on the Aus-
tralian and New Zealand Bill was read, for the purpose
of its being postponed until Thursday next.
Dr. BOWRING presented a petition from the parish
of St. Pancras against the Income-tax.
In answer to a question from Captain MANGLES,
Lord STANLEY said, that what he ha stated the
other night with regard to the colony of New Zealand ,
was, that he could not speak with the same confidence in
reference to that colony, as he could in reference to many
others. He believed, however, that there was a consider-
able demand for labour.
PARLIAMENTARY! REPRESENTATION.
Mr. S. CRAWFORD then rose tO propose the follow-
ing resolution :—.‘• Whereas various petitions have been
presented to this House, stating, to the effect, that,
under the present system of election laws, the people are
not duly represented ; and that they are thus deprived
of the acknowledged right of freemen to have a voice in
the making of the laws by which they are governed, and
in imposing the taxes which they are required to pay.
and therefore praying, that the right of 1 otino• may be
extended to the adult male population of the realm,
subject to no limitations or restrictions but such as may
be necessary for the safe and correct practical exer-
cise of the right itself ; that votes should be taken
by ballot ; that election districts should be equa-
lised to accord with the number of electors ; that
no qualification should be demanded from Mem-
bers but that of being duly elected by a majority
of votes ; that Representatives should be paid for
their services at the public expense ; and that elections
should be annual :—And whereas, complaint having
been made, as above stated, that, under the present limi-
tation of the franchise and laws of election, there is not a
full and free representation of the people; it is therefore the
duty of this House to take into immediate consideration the
amendment of these laws, with a view of giving to every
portion of the community a full, fair, and free representa-
tion in the Commons' House of Parliament; and this House
will, on an early day, resolve itself into a Committee of
the whole House, for the purpose of considering the same."
The Hon. Member, who was heard very • indistinctly in
the gallery, commenced by referring to a number of
petiticns, including a petition from Bradford and Gates-
head, which had recently been presented to the blouse,
praying for an extension of the suffrage. There was
also a petition signed by the chairman of a meeting
of delegates which was held at Birmingham. It was
signed by eighty-seven delegates from fifty-one towns,
who were appoired jointly by the middle classes to
represent their views with respect to the representation.
How stood the representation of the country, could it be
said it was fair ? Was it not the case that 133 Members
of that House, belonging to the Counties of England,
Scotland, and Wales, were returned by means of the
influence which the Aristocracy possessed' through
the Chandos clause? They were the representatives
not of the people, but of an Aristocratical oligarchy.
Thus, in consequence of the division of the counties, and
of the influence of the oligarchy, the abolition of the
nomination boroughs had not produced the sffect which
had been anticipated in giving effect to the popular
voice, and every method of bribery had been had recourse
to in order to defeat the effects of the Reform Bill, and the
people justly complained that their voice was not heard in
that House. If the voice of the people had been heard in that
House, the expensive wars in China and Hindostan would
not have been undertaken; and those measures which had
driven the Canadians to revolt would not have been
adopted. It was impossible to enforce economy with
state of things. The shortening of Parliaments had not
been effected, and the very reasonable proposition for
extending to Ireland equal political rights with
Englaed had been rejected. The Corn-law
had been kept up, and a most oppressive Poor-
law enacted. To what was all this owing ? Un-
doubtedly to class legislation. He would do the Right
Honourable Baronet at the head of the Govern-
! ment the justice to say, that he (Mr. Sharman
Crawford) believed that he would have advanced
further to heeefit the people if he could, but he was re-
strained by the aristocracy. The first thing he pro-
posed as a remedy for those evils was an exten-
sion of the sufffrege to all males above twenty. one
years of age, and unstained by crime. The prin-
ciple on which this proposition was founded 'had been
most. eloquently and po'werfully enforced by the Noble
-1,(4*(1, the Member for L0i,•,1".), on introdhchig- the -Re-
form Dill. The Noble Lord on that occasion said that

Considering that it is of little consequence that Vivier be a
Courier de Commerce, that he was bearer only of one dispatch,
and that the fact proved against him may be an isolated fact,
er the result of practice or a custom to transport letters and
journals coming from India, and destined for. England, and may
have hitherto been practised by courriers de commerce in the
presence of and knowledge of the administration of the Post
Office, and under no opposion on their part, is totally indiffe-
rent, since it arises only from a blameable tolerance contrary to
law. Considering thet in the pretence of a clear and precise
legislation, which admits of no exception whatever, it cannot
be admitted that either the administ ation of the Post-office, or
the Minister of Finances himself, has any right whatever to
grant authority or permission to what the law has not admitted
or forbids.

The Tribunal declares Vevier guilty of having interfered in
the transmission of letters and parcels, and the President, after
having read the articles one and five of the decree of the Con-
suls of 27 praireal year nine as therein specified, condemns
Vevier to pay a fine of 150 francs and all expenses; and at the
same time makes him liable for six months (per contrainte de
corps) for the payment of the fine.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT
(THIS EVENING.)

HOUSE OF LORDS.

The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Wool•
sack at Five o'Clock.
MUTINY BILL.

The Mutiny Bill, and the Marine Mutiny Bill, were
read a third time, and passed.

MAItRIAGE LAWS.

Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from a place
in the county Tyrone, against the Marriage-laws.
COEN-LAWS.

The Duke of BUCKINGHAM presented petitions
from the farmers of East Sussex, from the Isle of Ely,
Tetford, and Aylesbury, against the proposed Corn-laws.
The Earl of YARBOIUJUGH presented a petition
from Lincolnshire against the proposed alteration in the
Corn-laws.

no man of common Senn could pretend that the House of
Commons represented the people of England, and he (Mr.
S. C.) said the same of the present House of Commons.
These were the general principles which the peti-
titioners desired—and he also desired—to maintain,
But he did not deny that limitations
requisitie limitations. to protect the exercise a
the right itself. Unions should be excluded, to-
gether with lunatics, paupers, and felons. His
object and the object of the petitioner, was
to vest the franchise in the industrious classes
of the country, and he would support all such
regulations which were necessary to effect that object.. He
thought lodgers should be admitted to the franshise asweli
as householders. He thought also that there should be
a particular law with respect to registration in Ireland.
It was necessary that he should now refer to some
of those objections which he was aware might be
made to the proposition, he laid before the House,
He maintained that most of these objections were
applicable to the sufferings at present exist-
ing. The first of the objections to which
he had alluded, was 'the want of education. He would
ask were the majority of voters now existing educated ?
Was not a great number of the county 101. voters
inferior in education to the industrious classes, which was
the amount of knowledge held to be necessary for a voter
to acquire before he was qualified ? Was it necessary
that he should be competent to understand all
the quesions brought before Parliament ? If
they demanded such a qualification a great
proportion of those who now held the franchise
would be excluded. It was not necessary that the
voters should understand all the questions bi ought be
fore the House of Commons. He considered it sufficie,
that they could judge of the character and cop''

of the represeritatfies who required their votes.
The next objection was the greater corruption that
would prevail. Was there not much corruption at pre-
sent prevailing' from the highest to the lowest ?
The third objection was, that if they admitted a
larger class to the franchise, it would endanger the rights
of property. He contended that the working classes,
from their endeavour to obtain property, were interested
in protecting it as much as those who possessed it.
LEFT SPEAKING.

THE Itol fi .IVIPTON

M U RDER.

RE-EXAMINATION OF GOOD AT
I3OW-STREET THIS DAY.
Mary Ann Clarke (in continuation from our Afternoon
Edition) said—lt is the same silk, but it has been re-made. I
last saw Mrs. Good on Sunday morning, the 3d • April, about
ten o'clock. She was then to the back-yard. I have never
seen her since. I have'seen her dressing, and I think I saw a
mole just above the cielar-bone. I produce a piece of silk
which is the same as that of which the bonnet is made. The
handkerchief which was produced by Inspector Busain, anti
was stained with blood, I have seen her wear upon her Leek,
or one similar to it. The flannel also produced by Inspector
Husain. 1 believe to be Mrs. Good's. I know it by its peculiar
make—the wide band and the narrowness of the top. This
key (one of the bunch produced by the Inspector) I knew, it
is the key of the street door, and the worsted guard, with
which the keys are tied, I also know; Mrs. Good used to wear
it round her neck every days
Elizabeth Christie exarnitte&-t tint the wife of Mr. Christie.
We lived in the same htittse as Mrs. Good, and occupied the
first fluor. I knew Mrs. Good. She had a little boy named
Dan. Good living with her; I knew him ; he called Mrs. Good
mother. The prisoner at the bar I also know; hp used to
Visit Mrs. Good ; the little boy called him lxtli r. I last kw
Mts. Good on Sunday, the. Id bf .April. I saw her at twelve
o'clock. It ?met hbr own door. she came there to speak to
me. She didspeak to me. I (lid not see her go out. 1 did
twit see the boy that day. I saw the prisoner on the 6th of
April, at half-past ten in the evening. He was unlocking Mrs.
Good's room; a little boy was bolding a light to hitt. I
spoke to him. I called ever the atlas " Who is there ?"
He answered " MN" I eitid " Who is me ?" He said " Good;
we're at bail this evening." I then saw that it was the pri-
totter. I asked him if that was his little boy with hitt', tte hit
back was to me ; he answered "My little boy is in the coun-
try with h's mother." When 1 saw Mrs. Good last time I
had some conversation with her; she did rut tell the where
she was going. These articles (bonnet, gowns, handkerchief,
and shawl) I know to be those belonging to Jane Good. I
speak positively to them ; I altered the trimming on the bonnet
about nine months before. This key I know; it is the key of
the street-door ; the guard, too. I knows she always wore it
round her neck.
Sarah Young examined—l am a widow. I live at No. SO,
East-street, 11Ianehrstet-square; that is only k teiv steps from
South-street: I ant is heir neighbour of Mrs. Brown's. I
knew Mrs: Geotl ; she lived.at brown's, the green-grocer's.
She had a little boy with her. I often saw her. I saw her last,
kteut half-past twelve, on Sunday, 3d April. I have never
seen her since. She came to me then, and asked me to take the
little boy, and give him a night's hedging. I refused, and she
begged of me for God's sake to take him. She said, she dared
pot take him wfth her. She was to re:urn on Monday morn-
ing. I did take him. He slept at my house till Monday morn-
ing, eight o'clock, and then he went to school.
Mr. Lavender Leyton examined—l live at Putney. lam a
confectioner. I know the prisoner at the her perfectly well. I
met him on Sunday, April 3, on the road leading to the Sus-
pensionsbridge, Hammersmith, about half-way between the
Suspension-bridge and the Red Lion. He was in company
with a female. It was about a quarter before four in the after-
noon: He asked me how I was. He introduced me to the
female that was with him, and said, " My sister, Mr. Leyton."
She had on a dark dress and shawl, I did not notice her dress
particularly. They were going towards Barnes, and I was
going towards Hammersmith.
John Brown examined—l keep the Coach and Horses at
Barnes. I know the prisoner at the bar. I saw him on Sun-
day, April 3, about four o'clock, at any house. He had a
female with him. I had some conversation with him—that is,
he asked me how I was ? I said, " How do you do, coachman ?"
And be introduced me to the woman, and said, " This is my
sister; and be added that she was a Welchwoman. I said that
many gentletren liked to get Welch girls for dairy maids. He
said she had brought him some tea and sugar, arid some cream,
and I said it was very kind of her. She took the cream out of
her basket, in a pint bottle. They had two glasses of gin and
water, which they drank. There was nothing at all particular
about them, except that 'ne put the drink to her, and she ap-
peared to refuse to take it. They were in the house about
twenty minutes. I cannot swear to any part of the, dress.
Fanny Hesler examined—l am a Married woman, My hus-
band's name is William Hester. I live at Priest-bridge. That
is about half a mile nearer to Putney than the Coach and
Horses at Barnes. I know the prisoner at the bar. I saw him
on Sunday, the 3d of April. He brought a female to drink
tea with me. Be arrived at my home about half-past four.
He said she was his sister-in-law. She wore a dark
cotton gown and shawl with a black ground and
coloured flowers. Her bonnet was purp'e coloured.
They stayed tea with me. She took her bonnet off during tea,
and she had on a white cap, trimmed with straw-coloured
ribbon ; she had black boots on her feet, laced at the side.
He said the reason he brought her there was, that the gardener
was not agreeable. I mentioned Susan Butcher to Good, and
said that I had heard seme very disrespectful things relative to
her sleeping in the stable. ihe female appeared to be very
much hurt, and said she was quite a stranger to her. Good
said he was in haste, he must 'go home to wait at
table, for his sister was going to return to London.
when they were leaving I asked the female to bring the little
boy to see me some day ; she said she would. The prisoner
heard all this. They left my house together at half•past five.
They took the road towards Putney. I think this is the bon-
net the female wore on that occasion, and the dress is like the
one she then wore. I have never seen her since. On the
Tuesday following, about half-past nine or ten o'clock in the
morning, 1 saw the prisoner, who came to my house, and
brought the little boy with him. He said it was his little boy,
Daniel Good. He asked 11119 if I cnuld let him remain with me
for a short time. I said he might, but that I was going to
London. He then said he would take him back, as he would sleep
with him that night. They then left. I went to London and
returned about half-past eight in the evening. I then found
the little boy at my house where he slept all night. The next
day about twelve o'clock he left my house and said he was
going to his father's,
Police Constable Robert Payling, V 248—1 was on duty on
Sunday :id April, on the Richmond-road. I know a place
called Priest-bridge. It is about half-a-mile from Putney
Park-lane. I know the prisoner. I saw, him on Sunday on the
Richmond-road at half-past sizlin the evening, about a quarter
of a mile from Priest-bridge ; there was a female in his company.
They were going towards Putney Park-lane. The woman
wore a blue bonnet and a dark-coloured gown. I could hear
the woman discoursing very loudly, apparently in an angry tone.
By Mr. HALL—It did not occur to me at the time that they
were having any words with each other.
George Royal examined—l keep the King's Head, at Rae-
hampton. I know the prisoner at the bar. I saw him on
Sunday, the 3d of April, about seven o'clock in the evening.
He had a female with him. She was dressed in a light
bonnet. I could not see the colour as it was dusk.
He called for a glass of gin and water, of which they partook.
I observed nothing particular about the drinking, more than
that the female drank reluctantly. I mean by that, that he
preised her to drink oftener than she seemed to wish to take
it. They left the House together a little alter 8 o'clock. I
do not know which road they went.
Lydia Susannah Butcher. (When this witness was called
the prisoner sat down in the box and leaned his head upon his
hands on the front of the bars) lam the daughter of W. Butcher,
is a shipwright at 13, Charlotte-row, Woolwich I
am a single woman living with my father. I have known the
prisoner for some time. I have been intimate with him. He
has several times visited me at my father's house, Woolwich.
I have been at Putney Park-lane three times, when he sent
for me. I went once to him to the stables ; I remained there
all night and returned home the next day. That was about a
fortnight before Wednesday, the 6th of April. I saw him on
Wednesday, the 6th, at my father's house ; he came there in
a small pony-chaise.—(The prisoner here resumed his stand-
ing posture, but still kept his face covered with his hands.)
He had a little boy with him who called him father. It was be-
tween three and four in the afternoon. He stayed till five. He I
brought me five or six articles in the chaise and those boots,
bonnet, handkerchief, gloves, &e., were the articles he brought
me. (These were the things which had been identified as the
property of Jane hues.) lie said he had brbught them as a
present to me if I would accept them. He said they had been
his wife's. ( The prisoner here raised his hand from his face,
and looked affectionately at the witness, the effect of which was
a shower of tears from her.) He had promised to bring me
some things about a month or six weeks before; and all
he said when he gave me the things was, that the bonnet would
fit me, and that he had more things for me. He did not say
when he should bring them. He also had some little squares of
silk, shot colour, made like shawls, but these he did not leave.
He had tea with us. When he went away, I went with him,
and my sister, a little girl, also went half way to Greenwich.
She then got out. I went on as far as New Cross. He told
the little boy then that he was to call me mother, because his
aunt was gone into the country. At New Cross we
all got out, and went to a public- house, when
we remained a short time. He and the. little boy then went
home in the chaise, and I returned home also. The next day
a poll, eman named Parry called on me, and I delivered to him
the bonnet and other things. Prisoner said, in the courso of
the chive' something about a mangle, and I was to go to see it
either on Saturday or Sunday. I was to meet him at Putney
and we were to go together.
Mr. Hate—Do you recollect any place in London where he
said you were to see the mangle? Witness—He told me, Out
1 forget. If the place were mentioned to me 1 think I should
recollect it.
Mr. HALL—Was it North-street or South-street? Witness
—I think it was South-street.
Mr. HALL—Do you recollect the name of the square?
Witness—lt was Manchester-square.
Mr. Haee—Did he say to whom it belonged, or why you
were to have it ? Witness-IN°. He said his sister was gone
into the country, that was aii.
Mr. II s t T,
.00 the prisonerl—Do you trim to ask Ditcher
any gnostic Prisontr—Yintr Worship, I have got a good
deal to say yet, but nut ties time.

Police-sergeant James Parry, BR, examined—l went to the
house of the last witness on Thursday, 7th. I received from
her all the things now lying before me (gown, bonnet, &c.
before referred to).
Prisoner—Your Worship, I have one word to speak to you :
will you ask Susan Butcher where the shawl is ?
were, Susan Butcher was then re-called, and
of The Prisoner said—Susan, I've one question to put to you :
you've brought all these things, why not as welt bring the
shawl? I gave it to you, as well as the other things, and you
might as well have given it up. Witness—l have nothing of
yours, Sir, I have given all up.
Prisoner—You had a shawl, a large shawl ? Witness—No,
I have not.
Mr. HALL—Did the prisoner give you a shawl at the time
when he gave you the other things? Witness—No, he did nut.
Prisoner—She put it on her, s our Worship—l've got a great
deal to say, but not now. She might as well have brought the
shawl as the other things.
Robert Goulding, police sergeant V. 31—I searched the
kitchen in South-street, in company with Inspector Busain, on
9th April, and found there articles which I now produce.
( They are small pieces of printed cotton, of the same pattern
and material as the di ess before alluded to; and some strips of
blue silk, which were of the same colour as the bonnet. )
Mr. HALL—Do you wish to ask this witness any questions?
Prisoner—No, your Worship; I know nothing at all about
him. I've nothing to do with him.
Daniel Good, jun., was then called, and the prisoner here
sat down and wept bitterly he appeared to feel deeply. lam
10 years of age, and hare been to Sunday School and learnt to
read my letters and say my catechism.
By Mr. HALL—If 1 were to take an oath, and were to tell
you a lie, I should go to hell. My father was coachman to Mr.
Till within the last tertnight I used to live with my
mother in South-street, Manchester-square. My father used
to come and see us sometimes. That is my father (look-
ing to the prisoner). I last saw ray mother on Sunday
before last. She was in South-street then. I Went to
church on the morning of that day. I did nit see
my mother after I came from Church. I did not expect to find
her at home when 1 got from Church. After Church I went
to 99, East-street, in consequence of some conversation I had
had with my mix her- I slept there fhat night, and the next
morning I went to school. I saw any father that day. My
father went to South-street, and I was sent for from school.
My father told me my motherwas gone to service, that I need not
expect to see her for 6 months. He:staved at South-street about
a quarter of an hour, and then he molt me to Blandford.street,
and then to George-street. He took me to a carriage, and we
rode a little was. He then asked a man to put me into an
omnibus, which he did. The omnibas took me to Roehamp-
ton. My father did not tell me that the omnibus would take
me to Boehm-Lipton. I wont to Mr. Rakes', a publican, and
he took me to Mr. Shiell's, where I got about nine o'clock,
and slept all night. On Tuesday I went to Priest
bridge, to see Mrs. Hesther, with my father. I
stopped at Putney that day, and slept at Mrs. Hester's. On
Wednesday morning I went'to Putney Park-lane, and saw my
father there; my father and I then went to Woolwich in a
ponyschaise. Father took a small bandbox with him in the
chaise ; there was a blue bonnet in it ; I knew the bonnet; it
was my mother's ; I had seen my mother wear it ; I do not
recollect how long she had had it, but it was a long time. My
father also had with hint a small basket, with some tea-cakes in
it. We then went to my cousin ; toy cousin is Susan Butcher;
my father told me that she was my cousin. We stayed there
about a quarter df an hour. My father took the things out of
the chaise into the kitchen. 1 went into the kitchen to have
tea, and I saw the things there, they were left there. When
we left there, Susan Butcher and my cousin, who is a little
girl about 13 years of age, went with us; the little girl did not
go a great way with us, Susan went as far as the railway.
My father told me that I was to call Susan Butcher my
another. We stopped at the railway. My father and Susan
Butcher got out and went into a public-house, where they re-
mained about ten minutes. I stopped with the pony. Susan
Butcher then went home, and my father remained with me.
We weut through 'Wandsworth on the road home, and made a
stop at Mr. Colliogborne's, the tailor. My father bought a
Pair of breethee there, and put them in the chaise. He then got
into the chaise again, and we drove to Putney-park-lane. We
got there about nir.e o'clock. I then went into the stable-yard.
and was going up to the house, when a policeman came and
said he wanted Mr. Good, the coachman. I then went iota
the stable, and the policeman searched the stable. Father ran
out and locked us in. I did not see my father any more that
night. I have not seen him since till now.
Prisoner—Your Worship, will you allow me to question him ?
Mr. HALL—Yes.
Prisoner,—Oh, any dear boy, don't cry !
The little fellow here began to cry most piteously, read the
prisoner also seemed very much affected.
Mr. HALL (to the prisoner)—You'll have an cpportunity
by and by.
Prisoner—Thank you Sir.
Mr. Maule—This, Sir, closes the second part of the evi-
dence, up to twelve o'clock of the 6th. I shall now enter upon
the third part, and trace him up to the time that he was taken
into custody.
The Court then adjourned for a few minutes to take re-
freshment ii and, on re-assembling,
Mr. Mettle ibtithatetl that he thought they should not be able
to proeeed with the eases of Anti Gond And gamble to-day,
as it would be late before this would be concludea.
Richard Salmon examined—l live as a potman at the tied-
ford Arms, South-street, Manchester-sqeare. I know the
prisoner. He came to our house in a cab, No. 700, a few
minutes before 12 on Wednesday night, April 6. My mistress
was up. He asked her for a serew-driver ; he said he wanted
it to get into his apartments, as he had left his keys behind
him. My mistress lent him ore, and I went with him to 18,
South. street; he knocked at the door, and Mr. Brown opened
it 1 he let us in, and we went down to the kitchen deer, anal
it Good's repot I drew the staple, and he got in there.
left him, and went back wi.h. the strew-driver.
George Jakes examined—l live at No. 9, Ranelagh-mews,
Pimlico. I drive a hackney cab, No. 700. I knew the pri-
sonee. A little after eleven on Wednesday, the 6th of April,
he tock my cab at Grosvenor-street, Pimlico, and I drove
him to South street, Manchester square. I drift him to op-
posite No. 18, and we had seine dispute about the fare, he
offered me ls, instead of Is. 4d.; he however came up, a penny
at a time, and gave me half a pint of beer. He then borrowed
a screw-driver of the landlady, and went into his house; when
he came out Fe paid me the other 2d., and wanted me to take
him on further, but I would not.
Mr. HALL—Have you any question to ask this witness? HOUSE OF COMMONS. April 20.
Prisoner—No sir—l've no questions ; the man was civil. THE EXCHEQUER BILLS BILL.
John Brown examined—l live at No. 18 South street, Mane Sir GEORGE CLERK read the amendments of the
chesterasquare. I' am the husband of Mr. Brown, who has Lords on this Bill, which were agreed to.
' been examined here to-day. lam a greengrocer, and let my On the Order of the Day being read for proceeding
house out in lodgings. Mrs. Good lodged in the front kitchen with this Bill,
of my house. I saw her last on Saturday, April 2. On Wed-
Mr. C. BULLER complained that the Government
nesday, April 6, the prisoner came to my house, about twelve
o'clock at night. He knocked at the shop door. I got up, and proceeded with their own measures on a Wednes-
said, " Who's there ? He replied, " It's me, Good," and he day, which it was generally understcod should be left to
asked leave to pass through the shop into his apartments. I Hon. Members for their Bills and motions. Ile wished
would not allow that, but I let him in at the private door. He to know whether the Australia and New Zealand Bill
appeared flouried, and asked if I had a candle alight. would be proceeded with to-night ?
I said, " No, nor I don't want one neither; you got latch keys Mr. WAKLEY said he thought that Government
to let yourselves in, without disturbing me." 1 then went to measures should not be taken on a Wednesday night.
bed, and he came in. About half-past five next morning, I The Noble Lord had moved the Orders of the Day, for
heard a cab drive from the door.
Prisoner—Mr. Brown, I've paid your rent up to the 4th the purpose, as he presumed, of bringing on the Licensed
April, have I not? Witness—Yes. Lunatic Asylums Bill. He thought it was not fair to
Prisoner—Well, I ehall obtain leave from his Worship, per- enter into emelt a., questiono before a House like that. Ile
the
haps, to have the things sold for my child. You shall have hoped, in case LIN went into Committee, that the
your rent. bringing up of the nolort would be postponed till Tues-
Witness—l shall give them up to the police. day fortnight.
Prisoner—Yes; you shall be paid. I know you are a very Lord G. SOMERSET intitnated that he had no oh-
good man. jection to postpone the bring;ilFup of the Report till the
Stephen Purdeyan, 16 D--On the morning of the 7th April, tune specified by the Hon. (lentl,:man, but he thought it
about a quarter past five, I saw a cab standing at Mr. Brown's
advisable to go into Committee on the Pill•
door, 18, South-street, Manchester-square. I saw it there
about five minutes, but did not see any one go away in it. I Mr. PAKINGTON said that he thotteer.,:! the House
got in conversation with the cabman, and whilst I was talking
iought to go into Committee on the Bill, but the: t some
.
to him I saw the prisoner come cut of the door and call the observations might be necessary before they did so.
BARRISTERS (IRELAND) BILL.
eabman. I then crossed to the opposite side, and
1 observed a large trunk passed out to the cabman Sir V. BLAKE moved the second reading of this
by the prisoner. I took the number, and then went Bill. He stated that the only object which lie wished to
away. I went to No. 4, the next day, Flower and accomplish was, that Irish law students should not be
Dean-street, Spitalfields. That house is let out in lodgings. I compelled, as at present, to reside at one of the Inns of
went there in search of Good. I saw a person who w
the name of Mrs. Good there, and I found some things there
went, by Court in London, as a preliminary qualification to •be
called to the Irish leer. He stated that the Bill, as now
which I produce (a quantity of towels, a gown, two small
work-boxes, Sec.) printed, was introduced by him at the special instance
and request of persons who represented that they were a
Mr. HALL—Do you wish to ask this person any question ?
Prisoner—l never gave her the things, Sir. She pinned deputation from the Irish law students ;it was their
• a
'em. I didn't know that she had so many things. She Bill,andke) told the
he (Sir Valentine Bl
de-
pinned 'em for herself, unbeknownst to me. • putetion tnat the • Bill contained objectionable
Daniel Good, jun., was recalled, and recognished the two matter in his opinion, but that,froinhisrersipetced, andtfo
for the
boxes produced by the last witness, as his mother's. He said students, he would bring it in and have it printed,
I've seen them every day. I saw them on Saturday, April 2. permitted by the House to go into Committee upon it,
William 111.Evoy sworn—l reside at No. 2, Laundry-yard, the objectionable parts might be omitted, and that part
Westminster, lam a pave), 1 was at work in the poultry only retained which would repeal tho existing law as to
on Thursday morning, April 7. There wore two others with
the residence of Irish students in London: He was,
me at work. Igo to work at six o'clock. I saw the prisoner
however eorr • to perceive that all the established legal
thete about three minutes past six in the morning. He ,
was on foot and had nothing with him. He asked autnoeitie; in' the liottse were opposed to the repeal
us to do something in some .language which we 3 of the old Act of 3 Henry VIII., which, when
did not understand. He then asked my comrade, in enacted, was useful, just, statesmanlike, and necessary..
English, to write a direction. He said he could not do that But when it was recollected that there was then no Um-
neither. He then asked me if I would do it. I said I had no versity in Dublin—that tilt superior Courts of Law and
objection. We then went to the Three Tuns in Coleman- Equity in Ireland existed meet,' in name ; that there
stieet. We bad a quartern of gin. and he called for a sheet of was no law library—no King's fulls ; that, in fact, the
paper and pen and ink. I then wrote according to what he administration of justice was conducted under the
told me. I asked him what name I should put to the bottom s—no Sheriffs—
of. ancient law ' that there were no Assiz.2
it ,2e no doubt
-t
it, and he said "Daniel Good." He said it was to go to Mr. no counties then in existence ; there ccouldShiell's (which letter was piodued). When I had written but that under such circumstances
was prunes.. and
it. I inclosed a duplicate in it, and folded it up.
wise to introduce the system, whereby students for tn..'
The letter, as far as it could be read, was to this effect : . . . •
Irish bar were instructed in the practical knowledge of
"My dear Sir,—.l hope you will take care of my little boy. Irish bar . .
the administration of the laws of England. This House
I took tea on Sunday evening at Cox's Fields, Deptford. I
kept company wi•h Susan Butcher since Christmas last; she would not den the existence of the changes which
is the cause of all my misfortunes. I am not a single man, are the result ofy tizne. We have it on the authority of Mr.
but I buried my wife seven years ago. You will find a mat- Hume, that when he wrote (now approaching to a century
tress and two blankets in the straw in the stable, which Susan ago) thepopulation of Ireland alone was greater than the
Butcher and me slept in since Christmas last." population of the three kingdoms at the time of the death
11 he Prisoner appeared exceedingly anxious that this letter of Elizabeth. Was it too much to affirm that it was now
! should be read ; but no one could make out more of it, than three times as great as the population of the whole United
the portion we }save given, which was read by the last witness
who wrote it. Kingdom when the 33d lien. VIII. was enacted ? This
' Anthony Tye examined--I am a hair-dresser, at Bromley law was impolitic, and unsuited to the present time.
in Kent, on Sunday., 10th April, a little after eleven o'clock, Was it just or fair that men who had struggled
the prisoner came to my house to be shaved. He had a bed to obtain degrees in Trinity College, and who
and a large bundle with him. I partly shaved him, but had not the pecuniary means of entering their
ore of us became agitated, and I did not finish him. The first names on one or other of the Inns of Court in London,
thing that attracted my attention was, that when he came in, and of a residence there for near two years—was it con
instead of sitting down where my chair is always placed in the sistent with a true patriotic feeling to exclude nine out
light near the door, he turned the chair round, and sat with his of every ten men thus situated, many of them distin-
buck to the light. There was a proclamation for Good's ape guished, and some having obtained academical leinours?
prehension exhibited at the police. station opposite my house. be thus excluded from all participation in the lottery
Being impressed with the idea that the prisoner was like Good, I ofo
made some observations to a young man named Addis, who was professional advancement was indeed an injustice and a
in the shop, about the murder at Roehanipten. I did not ob- cruelty which he (Sir V. B.) hoped to be instrumental in
serve that the conversation affected the prisoner. He gave abolishing ; if not now permitted, he would persevere
me a penny for shaving him; he said that he had been travel- in some other form, and thus achieve what he considered
hog about for a good many days, and he hoped that would be to be for his country one of its most undoubted and va-
suffici, nt. He said that he was going into the country to luck luable privileges. Raving brought this measure for-
for a job. I said it era, very strange that a bricklayer's ward under the circumstances before stated, and at the
labourer should go to look for a job on a Sunday special request, as he (Sir V. Blake) thought, of the
"and to tall you the truth," I said, "I don't think you've been Irish students it was not without the utmost amazement
a bricklayer's labonrer at all for the last three months."
said, "Well, to tell you the truth, I've not been a bricklayneer he saw himself placarded as an unworthy Irish Membersaid,
by a meeting of the students in Dublin, held on the 16th
long, but I've been in a capacity which made it necessary for
me to shave every day, and I don't feel comfortable without it." inst. It was plain that a great misunderstanding of
Prisoner—What was my dress? Witness—A Fair of low the circumstances under which he was prevailed upon
shoes and white cotton stockine,s ; a pair of fustian overalls, a to introduce the present Bill did exist at that meeting,
black waistcoat. and that no one at it was aware that persons here, acting
Prisoner--Yes, that's quite right. in the name and on behalf of the Irish students, were, in
William Addis examined—l am a market-gardener, living point of the fact, the authors of the Bill, and so far mis-
t Plaistow, in the parish of Bromley. I was in the shop of led him (Sir V.) as to induce him to undertake the
the last witness on Sunday, the 10th of April. I had a conver- duty at the special instance and request of the
sation about. the murder. As soon as it began the prisoner whole body of the Irish students. It was satisfac-
turned his chair from the light, and trembled very much. tory however, that even in the disciaimer put
Mr. Maule (to the 111agistratel-1 wig now bring you to the
l,oqii at that meeting, there was contained a full and
end of this long inquiry, Sir.
ample recognition of the principle for which alone he
Thomas Rose examined —I live at Tonbeidge, and am a e"ml,
,
bricklayer's labourer. I was working for Mr. i-arrett at the
lion of would Perseveringly contend namely the aholi-
he prohibition to admit persons duly educated to
railway station on the 11th April last. I saw the prisoner u o
there on the 15th; he had been to dinner, and I thought I thehish bar, unless they were in pecuniary circumstances
knew him ; and on the 16th I saw him again, and was certain which would enable them to pay 301. or 4C/. for an ad-
that I had seen him before at Putney Park-lane about 16, mission, and to reside in London.
months ago. Ile was coachman then to Mr. Sbiell; I was Mr. Sergeant JACKSON opposed the second reading
then so uneasy that I could not go to work ; I knew there was a of the Bill, and moved that it should be read a second
proclamation out for him, and I cemmunleated all I knew to trine that day six months. Ile believed that the Bill was
Police Constable Lidlow. I afterwards saw him in custody at slot called for, and that the students of the Irish Bar
the An at Tonbridge. The prisoner at the bar is the man. were satisfied that they received great benefit from being
Stephen Lidlow policeman No 4 nn S.•:11,1! For. „
of • i,„11 • Rail , (,•miget..o keep mniwerterms in •
ay, eltaluined—ln f;ons, • • • •.•
last witness, 1, comptiny with' mi. Hue Mr. Ol G'CONeNELL said that the Irish student
who was hire d, by the present law, to come to London
suit of the prisoner on Saturday, the 10th. I round Lim at work

on the border of the Railroad. He was sElticited by Mr. Httra-
phry, and nothing but some halfpence found upon lab': leiter:
wards searched him and found a watch upon him, and a purse
containing three sovereigns, and a half-sovereign and three
half-crowns concealed in. his stocking,. On the left. shoulder
under his shirt there was a jackonvt apron. I cannot say
whether there were any marks upon it. He wore trousers and
a jacket which appeared to be made of fustian, and a black
waistcoat.—(They were produced.) On the collar of the
jacket there is an appearance of blood. There are also marks
of blood upon the trousers. This is a spoon which the pri-
soner produced himself.
Prisoner—l bought those clothes on Thursday morning be-
tween the borough and Tooley-street, at a Jew's shop. I
never wore them at my master's.
George Hoare, examined—l am the chief-warden of the
House of Correction, Clerkenwcll. These clothes I trink from
the prisoner when he wa3 given into my charge. Tlit.re are
marks of blood upon all of them.
MauLE—l propose to close my case here, and to submit
to you that there is sufficient evidence to send Lim to trial.
Mr. HALL (to the prisoner)—There is no obligation on you
to tell me anything, unle,s you wish it. If you wish to hold
your tongue till the time of your trial arrives, you can do so.,
Whatever you say now, will be taken down and used against
you. After what I have said, it rests with yourself to say whe-
ther you will make any statement or not.
Prisoner—The clothes I wore at my master's have been taken
from me. Those clothes I bought at Tooley-atrect.
Mr. HALL—Then if I understand you, the clothes now pro-
duced, you never wore in your master's service?
Prisoner—Exactly. My fidger bled, and that it was that
marked those clothes with blood.

,111 r. 'Maule—Perhaps 1 bad better go on and call another

witness.

ilaria Ardy examined—l am the wife of John Ardy, a
basket-maker, of Tunbridge. On 'Monday, the 11th of April,
the prisoner came to my house at seven o'clock and took
lodgings. He asked if I had any lodgings. I said I had
half a bed. I asked him his name. He said it was
" James," and added that he was a bricklayer's labourer at
present, but he had been a hawker of hare-skins and rabbit.
skins. I told him my rules were that I would not take any
lodger unless he produced some property; lie said he could do so.
and he then went away and retired with the bundles ; on,t he
said he should want when he went to bed, and the (iler I was
to take great care of, and not give up toany one. He slept at my
house then till the day he was apprehended. I then gave the
bundles up to 111 r. Humphrey the inspector. Prisoner was
very fiagetty and restless all the time that he lived with me.
When any one came to the door he wanted to know v.ho it was,
and what was_their bosines, and I was very much offended at it.

Prislmer—Have you brought my wages, Bs. bd. Witness—
No, I have not, but I can.

Prisoner—But why not you give it in? I worked for that
money, and I ought to have it.
Mr. Humphrey, a special constable on the South Eastern
Railway was next examined. The bundle before me is one
I had from Mrs. Audry, it contains a black coat, a child's
handkerchief, a dark pocket-handkerchiela plosh uvaistcoe,
a pair of drab small-clothes, a small glass, a pair cf drab gaiters.
The witness then paid 9s. 6d. over to the inspector, which
was given to the prisoner at his request.
Mr. Mauls—Well, that's my case, sir.
Mr. Hann—Those clothes will be prodnced on your trial if
that is what you wish.
Prisoner—l wish, Sir, you would make the man who took
the money from me give it to the Governor at Coldbath-firlds
for my chilld, because before I am tried I wish to give them
over.

Mr. HALL—I can give no order of that sort.
"Prisoner—Might I request, Sir, that Sou would let me go
back now to the same prison that I have just come from (Cold-
bath-fields. )

Mr. HALL—I cannot do that, if Sou are committed, you
must go to Newgatc.
Mr. MA ULE then said that as it was a quarter past six, and
the depositions would have to be read if they went on, he should
submit that the I,risoner be remanded till to-morrow-evening..
Mr. HALL said he should rather finish to-night.
D. r. BURNELY, the Clerk, then commenced reading the de-
positions, and had not finished when we went to press.

TATTERSALL'S-THIS EVENING.
Six O'CLOCK.

THE DERBY.

8 to 1 agst Attila
11 to 2 agst Frederica
14 to 1 agst Joanna—taken
30 to 1 agst Elvas •
40 to 1 agst Lord of Holderneni
40 to 1 agst Moss 'Trooper
33 to 1 agst Meteor
50 to 1 agst Timoleon
20 to 1 agst De Gorham
30 to 1 agst Ballinkeele.

A deputation consisting of Mr. Bell, M.P., Mr.
Liddell, M.P., Mr. Hodson Hinde, M.P., accompanied by
Mr. R. W. Brindley (Chairman of the Coal Committee), Mr.
N. Wood, M. J. Johnson, and Mr. AllhuFen, had an in erview
this morning with the Chancellor of the Exchequer in Down-
ing-street, on the subject of the proposed alterations in the coal
duties.

SOUTHAMPTON ELECTION, April 20.—The Tories
of Southampton have been on the look-out for a candidate
to stand with Mr. Mildmay, in the full expectation that
Mr. Martin will be unseated, and be disqualified through bribery
from standing again. Unable to take in a stranger, the Tories
hale resolved upon dragging poor old Mr. Dottin forward as the
only man whoie wealth and easy dispcsiticn are suitable for be-
ing victimised. Nothing Lut absolute necessity wield prompt
the 'links to the cruelty cf hurrying to the grave through the
toil of election contests a gentleman whose age and infirmities
have brought him to the last stage of decrepitude. Mr. Dottin
is in London, and would gladly be excused from the embrace
of his old victimisers, who will only hug him to pick his pocket.

The General Steam Navigation Company's vessel
the Giraffe, from Rotterdam, arrived off the Castom-house at
nine o'cicck A. m. , this day, with the Dutch mail. •

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.