The Sun.
London, England, 1842-09-15 00:00:00

the price of justice, as they seem inclined to fix the
price of ginghams, we should advise Sir James Graham
to have a conference with Lord Stanley, and inquire
whether Lancashire, as a county in England, might
not be taboo' d with as much facility as a plot of ground
by savage chiefs in New Zealand. To say the naked
truth, the wild justice of New Zealand is infinitely
preferable to the unreasonable justice of Manchester.
Are the men at Manchester all mad? For justice
seems to be sanctified as a goddess there, but only to
be treated in the allegorical way—to be kicked about
as blind because she is impartial, and to be despised
as helpless because she is invulnerable—whereas
Justice is a very practical little woman, who has eyes
to see through her bandages, and has hands more cer-
tain for length and tenacity than those of Briareus.
The Mayor of Manchester may be a monstrously great
man, and the Town-clerk of Manchester, as a matter of
course, a much greater man than he ; the Mayor, for
aught we know, a Zealand chief, with a savage idea of
despotic justice ; and the Town-clerk may be a
smiling, smirking slave, under the very pleasant
patronage of his civic-tomahawk—but what then ?
The Mayor of Manchester and the Town-clerk of
Manchester are, if we count them by noses, only ttva
men ; and we have not heard yet of much wisdom
having come out of the breath of their nostrils. We
would forgive the Mayor and his clerk an immense
amount of folly and mendacity; but we will not
lightly pass over such an insult to justice as these two
gentlemen hazarded on Monday last. We spoke very
strongly on Tuesday week last of tha..eizure and
forcible detention of two young men appeentieed to a
Mr. Turner, a printer, in Manchester—the said Mr.
Turner having been held to bail for printing a sediti-
ous libel. He may have printed ten thousand sediti-
ous libels for anything that we know or care about ;
for the result proves, exactly as we predicted, that
neither Chartism nor the Corn-laws have much more
, to do now with the turn-outs than, as Burns says,
" last year's snow has to do with this year's guineas."
But to our mutton. Mr. James Hampson (whom we
must suppose to be a member of the Manchester
Common Council, and if not so much the better) asked
a question of Mr. Mayor. The question ran thus :
" It was with reference to Turner, the printer of a
particular placard. Not only had he been seized in
the first instance, but his apprentices were also seized,
and had been subsequently kept, it was said with their
own consent ; but he wished to call the Mayor's at-
tention to it as a proceeding dangerous to the liberty
of the subject."
One would suppose that was the way to raise a
question, so as to extort a plain answer from any ho-
nest man ; but the Mayor of Manchester is exces-
sively obtuse :
" Mr. Mayor—Are you asking me a question, Mr.
Hampson ?
" Mr. Hampson—l am. I wish the corporation to
stand either as connected with it (the imprisonment of
Turner's apprentices), or to be free from the guilt of
it. I call it a most arbitrary proceeding. You are
chief Magistrate ; the State nominates Magistrates
generally ; but we' have the right to choose our chief
Magistrate ; and in this view I think it right to call
yourY attention to what I consider an offence against
the liberty of the subject. Except you respect justice
yourself, you cannot expect that others will do so.
" Mr. Mayor—l do not see the drift of Mr. Hamp-
son's observations," &c.
Poultice the eyes of justice at Manchester, Sir
James Graham ! Clap a blister on the eyes of this
beautiful Mayor at Manchester, which shall make
him see the drift of a fair straightforward question.
" I cannot see the drift of Mr. Hampson's observa-
tions !" Why the man was—we will only use the
mild phrase of the nursery—a story-teller on the very
face of his assertion ; and a good bold liar is worth a
gross of tellers of stories. The Mayor of Manches-
ter knew as well as ever any beggar knew his dish
what Mr. Hampson was driving at. Mr. Hare pson
knew, as all the world knows, by whom the two
young men were seized ; but he wanted to know by
whose warrant they are detained. We will not conde-
scend to use any plea ad misericordiam for the sake
of the mothers of these young men. We do not care
if it should turn out that they have been fattened into
being prisoners by consent, and that their mothers are
maintained by the police. We say, as we said at
first, that, let the Manchester Magistracy
put this case in any light they can, it is a
most scandalous one. Are We defending the
master, Turner ? Very, very far from it. If he
has, for the filth of lucre, soiled his hands by
printing a seditious placard, twelve honest men can
say so, without the monstrous precedent being set of
a man's own family being forcibly imprisoned to ex-
tort evidence against him. A master stands by every
tie, legal as well as moral, in loco parentis to an ap-
prentice ; and we consider it as great a violation of
the domestic sanctity even to wheedle away an ap-
prentice to give evidence against his master, as it
would be to kidnap a child to betray his father. Talk
of Olivers, &c., indeed! If this system is to be pur-
sued by the Magistracy and the police, every father
must begin to instruct his children that they are not
to betray the hasty or incautious words which the
most careful of us use when we retire within the sa-
cred precinct of our own threshold. We are glad to
perceive that our former remarks on this subject have
done the good which we intended; and we can assure
the conceited and stupid Mayor of Manchester that
we shall keep an eye upon the subject.
GLOBE.—We perceive that an attempt has been
made in one instance, which may be repeated in many
others, to put down some public meetings, which
have been held uninterruptedly for seven years, in
furtherance of the cause of temperance. We always
apprehended that the doctrine of Sir J. Graham—de-
claring it to be within the province of a common con-
stable to decide on the legality or illegality of an
assembly—would be acted on for the purpose of restrain.
ing the right of public meeting. Such has been the
case in many places, where small Magistrates and petty
officials have been desirous of exercising that sort
of arbitrary power which little minds are apt to
mistake for dignity. It seems that at a place called
Delph, a temperance society, which has been in the
habit of holding meetings in a Wesleyan school, and
in other licensed rooms, for seven years, has received
intimation from the constables that no more meetings
must be held—for that they are illegal, and parties
attending them will be liable to punishment. Unless
the right of public meeting is extinct in Eng-
land, we do not see how a set of persons coming
together for the purpose of promoting temperance,
and nor causing a disturbance—as we are to presume,
from their having been habitually allowed to assemble
in places of worship, that they do not—we say that
if this is the case, we do not know by what competent
authority they can be prevented from continuing to
held their meetings as hitherto. It has been well
observed by their President, to whom they have ap-
plied for a lvice, that " proclamations are not laws ;"
but even if they were, there is no proclamation now
in circulation by which any but illegal meetings are
prohibited. We would not counsel, under any cir-
cumstances, disobedience to the constituted authori-
ties; out we would certainly recommend that when-
ever they proceed to put down, as illegal, meetings
which are strictly within the law, they should be
made to account for the arbitrary interference which
they have resorted to.

MONEY MARKET and CITY NEWS.

FROM TAE MORNING PAPERS OF YESTERDAY.
TIMES.—The premium on gold at Paris is 8 13e
mille, which, at the English Mint price of 3/. 17s.r
101 d. per ounce for standard gold, gives an ex-
change of 25 35i., and the exchange at Paris on Lon-
don at short being 2.5 57}, it follows that gold is
0.88 per cent. dearer in London than in Paris.
By advices from Hamburg+, the price of gold is
433 per mark, which at the English Mint price of
3/. 17s. 100. per ounce for standard gold, gives an
exchange of 13 9, and the exchange at Hamburgh on
London at short being 13 104, it follow-3 that gold is
0.57 per cent. dearer in London than in Hamburgh.
The English stocks remain in the same unchanged
condition, business is languid, and barely sufficient to
support prices, yet still no decline is observable, and
they are kept up to those current yesterday. Money
is by all accounts accessible at easy rates as hereto-
fore, and though such a circumstance is enough to
explain the reason for the firmness of quotations in
the stock-market, it does not furnish a solution for
the otherwise dull state of things in the City.
By the official returns published by the Customs
the exports of the precious metals to foreign and co-
lonial parts for the week, ending Thursday last, were
as under : oz.
Silver coin to Bombay 12,000
Silver coin to Rotterdam lB,OOO
Gold coin to Prince Edward's Island 125

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accom-
modation noticed as having exhibited
POST.—The increased demand forit
has proved to have been not
temporary, as, in fact, it very partial, or rather
moneysel t. yesterday,a c eom
in our last City
short account given of the change
easier
article. The market to-day was decidedly
was represented to be in the
again, the first class commercial
an interest of no more than per cent. per annum.
The private bankers are not disposed to afford dis-
counts at less than paper commanding
9+ per cent. ; but, for the moment,
they get no bills. A different state of things may
succeed in the course of a day or two; indeed, the lead-
ing brokers seem rather to anticipate that such will be
the case, although the opinion oft the more intelligent
of them is evidently in favour of the continuance of a
low rate of discount for some time to come. In
certain quarters an improvement in the prospects of
trade is thought to be perceptible, but in the actual
state of the markets, it may be questioned whether
there is quite so much activity
as there was a fort-
night or three weeks ago. The unwillingness before
alluded to, to embark capital in stock and ,other in-
vestments of a like description, prevails just now in a
very remarkable degree, and has become a subject of
general comment.. Commercial bills are, as we have
cashed at an exceedingly moderate rate
sohFoirtle'reto be
interest, but for public securities there is not the
smallest inquiry, and if our own national funds, and