The Sun.
London, England, 1820-08-24 00:00:00

YORK AuGusr MEETING.

The above great Races commenced on Monday last ; the
course 'was attended by a highly numerous and respectable
company, and the sport Wit,: excellent. The following is a
correct detail of the first day's racing
:
MONDAY, AUGUST 41.
The Great Produce Stakes of I ongs each, !t. ft. ; colts, fist. 71b.
fillies, Bst. 41b,—Four miles. (Eight Subscribers.)
Mr. Pierse's In% c. Wrangler, by Walton, 1
Lord Milton's b. c. Palmerin .
Mr. Latubton's gr. c. Consul
2,t0 I on the winner.—A famous race.

The Knavesn►irc Stakes of 30 gs each. h. ft. • Last mile and

• - a half.
Mr. Garforth's ch. c. Swift, 4 yrs old 1
Mr. Kikhy's I).f. Shadow, 4 yrs. old • 2
Lord Fitzwillianes,br. L.Galatea, 4 yrs old ~ • . ' -i 3
Shadow the, favourite. Won eased • • "

The Great i'lorkshire Stakes of €lszs each. . The St. Leger
Coons, one mile and three quarters. • •
Mr. Lamhton's •hr. c. Borodino . ,.., 1
Mr. Watt's ch. c.. by Cerberus., . , i
Mr. Milner's hr. c. Sir John.
Mr: G. L. Fox's ch. c. by Nlarmion
Mr. Gorforth's hr. L 00tria....,........ S
Sir J. Byng's b. c. °atlantic . . ' - t 6
• 5 to 4 on Sir John.—.l good race.' • .
•
The Fitzwilliam Stake's of 50gs each, li..ft. i .
Mr. Kirby's br. h. Buniface
His Majesty's I'nrse of 100g.s.—Four rbiles.
Mr. Crailock's b. C. Sir Walter ' 1
Mr. Bell's b. C. Alfred • - 2
I. eel) iliet 1 ing.--Ivna easy.
Great sport is expected at the Durham Races,
which begin on the 30th instant.
•

ROWING MATcn.—Mr. BISIi, the Contractor
for the present Lottery, having given a ticket to
the six most celebrated Watermen on the Thames
in shares, to be rowed for, the match took place
yesterday. The concourse of people was
im-
mense.

A new method of killing animals without caus-
ing them pain has been adopted; they are made
to expire by means of Nitrogen Gas. By
this means the meat is rendered much more
fresh, of more agreeable taste, and may be pre-
served for a greater length of time. A great
many butchers already employ this process.

THE ARMY.

A Court-Martial will shortly assemble at
-Winchester Barracks, on a Captain of the 19th
Regiment, at which Major GILBERT BUCHANAN,
of the Royal Engineers, is appointed to act as
Deputy Judge Advocate.
It has been usual, for a number of years past,
to change the quarters of the three Regiments of
Guards annually on the 25th of August ; but
owing to the present proceedings in t lie house
of Peers, this arrangement will be postponed for
some time.--The first battalion of the Coldstream
marched from Deptford and Woolwich on Sa-
turday into London. The duty at the places they
have left is forthe present to be supplied by the
31st Regiment.
The Edinburgh Troop of Royal Mid-Lothian
Yeomanry has given ten pounds to the Magis-
trates of Musselburgh, to be distributed among
the poor of that town and vicinity, as mark rof
gratitude for the kindness and attention paid to
the Troop, When lately in quarters there.
On the sth inst., the Berwicl6hire Militia were
inspected at Coldstream, by Colonel JOHNSTONE,
OH which occasion the regiment went through a
variety of manceuvres, with an accuracy per-
fectly surprising for so young a corps, and which
met with the Inspecting Officer's warmest appro-
bation. On the day preceding, Sir JOHN MAR..
JORIBANKS gave' a most splendid entertainment
at Lees house, consisting of turtle, and every
delicacy of the season, to Lord HOME, and
the Officers of the Regiment. The day was
spent with the utmost conviviality. The Band
of the Regiment attended on the lawn during the
time of dinner, and played appropriate airs to
the many loyal and patriotic toasts which were
given. The party did not separate till a late
hour. The regiment having completed their pe-
riod of training, were disembodied after the in-
spection.. Their conduct, while in quarters, has
been most exemplary. _

The st King's Dragoon Guards, under the
command of Lieut.-Col. TEESDALE, are to re-
place the 6th, or Enniskillens, at Gort.

NORTHUMBERLAND ASSIZES.

lITTINO V: TAYLOR.

The real parties in this cause are Sir JACOB
ASTLEY, hart. of Melton Constable, in Norfolk,
(who has lately, upon the death of his father,
succeeded to the princely possessions of the DE-
LAVAL family in Northumberland) and the exe-
cutors of the late Mr. HEI+I4Y RIDLEY, of Seaton
Sluice, and the assignees under a commission bf
ha.nkrupt, against 111 r. E. It was an ac-
tion to recover possession of certain farms at Sea-
ton Delaval which had been leased in 1798, to
Mr. RIDLEY and his partners Messrs. 81-. iCKETT
and FORSTER, for 21 years, by the late Lord
DELAYM., then tenant for life, by virtue and in
exercise of a leasing power, contained in a family
settlement made in 1748 this lease bad been
surrendered in 1807 to Lord DELAVAL, who in
that year granted a new lease for 21 years, to
the same lessees, at a considerably advanced rent.

• The farm becoming, from the improvements •
made by.• the-lessees, and from the rise 'of the
times, highly-beneficial, Mr. Grace had sub-let a
part of it, at a great increase of rent,. with the
consent of the late -Sir Jacob Henry Astley,
and with the approbation .of the present plain-
tiff's guardians, Dame Hester Astley and Mr.
Daniel Jones, a NOrfolk•attorney, who had ac-
tually received rent under the lease up to
May, 1819. Upon the plaintiff coming of age,
this ejectment was brought to avoid the lease,
on the ground that the sub-letting by Grace was
a forfeiture of the term ; but the Learned Judge
,being of cipinion, that the forfeiture had been
waived by the subsequent receipt of rent, the
plaintiff's Counsel next. objected, that the lease •.
of 1807 (in which some' service on the part of
the tenants was reserved for the benefit of Hartley
Collieries, belonging -to the same family) was ori
ginally bad and void- under the power, inasmuch
as the best .nione); rent had not been reserved in
;. and the. Learned Judge being of that opi-
nion, the:Jury, under his direction, found ver-,
diet for the-.plaintiff.
The. hardship on the part of the tenant (who,'
as is well known, has no means of ,ingniry into
his landlord's title), is increased, by the fact of.
Mr. Grace-having, not doubting the ,validity,of
the. lease, purchased at nvcry-high rate the shares
of his e04,•55ee5,..... •
It 'appeared that Lord Delaval, in 1807 had
obtained surrenders of all the then existing leases,
and had, granted new !ones to the same lessees at
advanced .rents, although certainly not.• at the
highest rents of which the lands were then capa-
ble, the tenants being entitled to some conside-
ration for the surrender of their unexpired terms ;
and some of the other leases are in the, same pre-
dicament as that annulled by this .verdict.
It is to the credit of the landholders of Nor-
thumberland, (where most of the large estates
are in strict settlement) that such an attempt is
unprecedented in that county.— (Durham
County Advertiser, August 1.5.) •

BOW.STREET.—Yesterday a person dressed
very respectably in the habit of a sailor, and who
gave his name :John Brown, was examined before
IttcuAttu BIRNIE, Esq. charged with picking
pockets among the crowd assembled in St.
-square, to witness the Queen's return
James's-square,
from the House of Lords. Ile was fully commit-
ted for trial.

FOR THE SUN.

[LEI' ER ll.]

TO THE EARL OF I.WERPOOL, K.G.

MY LoßD,—Before the examination of the wit-

nesses commenced, I wished to say a few more
words to your Lordship on the subject of the Dill
of Pains and Penalties, introduced by your Lord-
ship into the house of Lords. Among the singular
circumstances that attend this Bill, I must men-
tion one that occurs to me. Your Lordship has
not declared that in producing this Bill you have
employed his Majesty's Attorney General to sup-
port it in your character of Prime Minister. We
Must. suppose, therefore, that you bring the- tnee.
sure forward from an idea of the necessity of it,
that-your conduct woul4.have been the same
'had you acted simply as a Peer of the realm, in-
stead of Prime Minister of the country.'

I should wish to ask your Lordship, whether
you would, so acting as a Peer, have persisted in
pushing to a second reading any public Bill, pub-
licly reprobated. I should wish to ask. your

Lordship, whether, as Prime .•Minister, you would
have read any Bill a second time so universallf
decried as the present Bill is, unless there exist-
ed an imperious necessity, arising out of great
public danger ?
Where is the danger now ? Not in the cause
of the Bill itself, but in the effect that may be
produced by the Bill.
I am ready to admit that the KING would have
great cause to complain, if, after such charges
being publicly brought against his Wife, _ that
without any refutation of these charges his Wif,
-whether guilty or innocent, must remain his
QUEEN ; and I am not at all disposed to admit
that any charge of recrimination
,ought to be ,al-
- in mitigation of her MAJ.ESTy's conduct
While residing in foreign countries. But the fact
of the case is, that his MAJESTY was advised 'by
your Lordship.and your Colleagues to lay before
the two Houses of Parliament the subjects, of
accusation, and- from one of the Houses of Par-
. liamez!t . his MAJESTY has received;.- not advice,
lint actual assistance, in the shape of a Bill framed
by his. MAJESTY'S responsible legal advisers, and
presented by your Lordship. This Bill has re-
ceived the sanction of the majority of the liaise
Of Lords, and I am sure that sanction was con-
scientiously given ; but the other.. House of Par-
liament has not only not given its assistance, but,
by a large majority, expressed its disapprobation
61 the Bill, and its opinion that such a measure
46 is derogatory to the dignity of the Crown."
The nation has felt with the house of Com-
mons, and I am sure every independent per4on
in the country unites with me in the most ardent
wish, that a measure so fraught with danger, so
likely to produce evil instead of good, should 'be
abandoned.

No one can admire more than I do the integ-
rity of your Lordship's character, your manly
conduct,-and; yonr,wi,,dom,and eloquence, hut,
my Lords,thikis,no,c a monlent'for perversely-ad-
heriug to..a principle, founded in error ;. to Te-
tract,may be difficult, but I insist that to proceed
must be dangerous.

AXIICUS.

"* This Letter was written before the exa-
mination of the witnesses took place, brit we have
too much respect for the writer to lay it aside:—
We hope to insert OBSERVATOR'S Answer to the
first Letter to-morrow, and other favours, if the
length of the Parliamentary. Proceedings will
permit us.

SHIP NEWS,

GREENLAND FISHERY.

WurrnT, AUG. e2.—Arrived from Greenland
the William and Ann, Toms, 12 fish, 150 tuns ;
and. Valiant, Agar, fish. Tho Nyhole of the
fishing ships, arg, cruising off the port.
Hutt., Atto-; 22.—Arrived the Exmotitii, _
Thompson, 13 fish, 310 butts; Gilder, Bruce, 9
fish, 300 butts ; Cyrus, Beadling, 9 fish, 330
blitts ; and Mary and Elizabeth, Weldon, 6 fish,
240 butts. , •

MME, Aub.t2.3.—During the gale on Monday
~vessel-was lost, as-:some pieces of wreck have
floated on shore, this morning ; it is supposed t 9
be a -foreigner; from' some part of the Baltic,
laden with wheat; and it is feared the crew have
perished, the body of a seaman having heed
washed on shore near Wahner.

PoarrsmouTn, .Auc.. c23.—Arrived the Med;-
teminean, Dare, from Gibraltar for London ;
she spoke, 30 leagues S.W. of Cape Finisterre,
the Timandra, Price, for Calcutta. Sailed his
Majesty's brig Brisk on a cruise, and the Julia,
Dunlop, for St. Petersbargh.

An Esa;nple wortio of Imitation.----When the.
present Vicar of Bradford entered upon his
ing, he found that his predecessor, .with a spirit
more Worshipful of Christ than of Mammon, had
never enforced the payment of tithes from
Quakers. He was determined to follow so en-
lightened an example : and, accordingly, sent:
wortirto that effect to all the:Quakers in the 'parish,:
stating, that thes mutt( not conscientiousl#-
PA I') he could. not conkcientious REsEIvE:,

PARLIAMENT,

HOUSE OF 'LORDS, AUG. 23.

THE QUEEN.

'The toll was called over, and Counsel Were
ordered to be called in. Counsel entered. The
,
witness,:gujocci vas then,placeu at the bar„ and
As. ilnotJcinAii resumed his

GROSS-EXAMINATION CONTINUED.
Mr. Brougham.—Q. Do you recollect a German
Baron visiting the Princess at/Naples ?—A. 1

-do not recollect.
Do you recollett: a German Baron visiting the
Princess at Genoa, when on her way from Naples

to Milan do not remember. .
Did any German Baron visit the Princess at
the Villa Villana during her residence theie ?
'here was a Baron whom I thought tobe a Rus-
sian, who twice visited her Royal. Highness, and
is the same I spoke of yesterday.
Was his name Ompteda, Opteda, or any name
like that ?—I cannot precisely recollect, for it

WilS'2ll extraordinary name.
Are you sure it was not Ramdoor ?—I do not
remember.
Do you recollect that Baron sleeping there
more than once ?—Once I remember—more I do
not remember.
Had he not a servant with him who used to
live with the other servants of the house ?—I re-
nember he bad a servant, but whether he lived
with the servants of her Royal Highness, I do
not remember.
Was there not a room in her Royal. Highness's
house called the Baron's room,? -I do not re-

inernber.
- Do you recollect a thunder storm on the river,
during 'which heF Royal Highness's party of plea-
, surewere much wet ? I do not remember.
You have said, that in the house at Naples, the ,
rest of the suite of her Royal Highness, except
Bergami, slept in another part of the house ?—I
remember the position of the rooms of hef,.Royal
"Highness, but not those of the rest of the house.
Mr. Brougham.—Then yon do not recollect
now, that the rest of the stlite of her Royal High-
ness slept in a separate part of the house ?—The
witness then added in explanation, ' I. remern-,
ber well where, the Princess and Bergami slept,.
but not where the rest of the suite slept."
C 4 Did the rest.of the 'family sleep near or at a
dis.tance ? Did you or not say they were separat-
ed, on. your oath ?"—T remember the poSition of
the beds of Bergami and her Royal Highness.
You must answer the question ?—lt is true.
Did you not give, in answer to that question
the following answer?-;—(Answer repeated to
him.)—T said they were separated ; but I meant
they were so, situated that they, could 'not com-
municate together.
Did you mean_ by that, that persons 'could not
pass from one part of the house to the other ?
A conversation occurred between the Counsel
on this question.'
The Solicitor-Generalskewed that the-witness
had__,,stated the ,apart,s_.:(ir_
Brougriam.—Dear me, Tay friend has made
a great discover"), ! This is a wonderful mare's

nest of his.
The Solicitor-General.---It "would be well if
Mr. Brougham would explain what lie means by
that sort of Miservation.
Mr. Brougham said, his Learned Friend men-
tioned this as if he had made a discovery. He
himself had read over the
,answer ‘,,.‘ they were
separated') four times to the witness. lie could
however swear the the meaning of the answer
given was 44 that they were at a distance."
The Soracuroa-GENERAL contended, that the
answer having been gis en by the Interpreter,and
taken down• by the Short-hand writer, without
objection, it was too late to object to it now.
After some conversation amongst,, their Lord-
ships as to the accurate, translation. of the pkegition,
Mr. Brongharn proceeded :
Do you mean to represent
_.that there was no
way of going from the Princess's room to those
of her suite, except through that of Bergarni's ?
--What I remember is, that I have seen no
passage.
Do you mean to ,say, that there is any way of
-getting from lie-r'ltOyar Highness's room to the
- rooms of her suite by any other passage ?—I have
." seen -no ,other passage.
'Than what paSsage ?—I have not seen any pas-
sage. that was from her Royal Highness's room to
'the rest of'the farnily, except that which leads
through Bergarni''s room.
Do yon:know'where the rest of the family had
Thorns ?—I do not reMember.
Were not the rooms of Doctor Holland,
• Hieronymus, and William Austin close to that of
her Royal Highness?—l do notremember.
When you went from Vienna to • Milan with
your father, where did you lodge ?—At a house.
How did'yon support yourself ?—By money.
How long did your own money last ?—d. do
not remember:. • • • .
Did any body give you any money there ?
When leaving Vienna I received money ; but
after Y left Vienna no one gave it to me.
Did any one at Milan give you money
The Interpreter at first translated the answer,
44 I do not remember," and 44 I remember not,"
_or 44 I remember that nobody gave me money."
.After some conversation amongst the Peers, the
latter construction was generally agreed upon to
be the meaning of the witness.
How long did you remain at Milan at 'that
time ?—Precisely, I do not remember; but I
think 18 or 20 days.
And when you returned to Vienna, did not
yourself pay for the carriage that carried you
there ?—bdo not remember..
Who gave you money at Vienna before you
set out ?—Colonel.Broivii, gave me money to go
to Vienna. •

Who gave you. money:at Vienna to go to Mi-
lan ?—My father paid for my journey. Ido not
remember.

Who gave yoft money before you set oat from
Vienna ? . .;-.. .
The SOLICITOR-GENRAI, ObjeCtO to this:
question. •The Learned• Counsel four the Queen
was presuming that the witness had OSitiVely- re,
4.4\
ceived .money. • '• ' ~," - -
Mr. Brougham-1 certainly do. iskN., ...
i4lv--'
,
..The question was repeat.ea. ....-..N, • **.% si
-Vy father paid for my journey. I remember
nobody gave the money..
After you got to Milan, did any one give you
money ?—Nobody gave me money when I arrived
at Milan.
While you remained at Milan did nohody,give
you money ?—Here witness answered—more no
than yes, and I don't know.
A. Peer requested that the witness should be
applied to himself to give a decisive definition of
his meaning. .. .
After, some conversation, it was decided, that
an explanation should be sought upon the re-ex-
amination. Mr. Brougham implrored the House
to keep in view their expressed determination to
act upon the principle of the Courts below, with
regard to evidence.‘ .

FIE-EXAMINATION.
The Somcrron-GENERAL then proceeded to a
re-amination of the Witness:
Did your father conduct you from Vienna to Milan for the
purpose of giving evidence against the Queen?
Mr. Brougham—l object to that being as a leading ques-
tion.
The Solicitor-General then changed, 'his course of Omni-
nation.—Were you at Milan examined as to the conduct 01
the Princess of Wales ?—Yes. • _

. .
Had you any other business at Milan ?—No.
Where slid son go after yeur examination was done at
Milan ?—To Vienna.
When at Milan, before you set off to return to Vienna, do
you recollect having received money or not ?—Before my Set-
ting out fur Vienna : Yes.
,Fur what pu' pose did you receive the money ?—To travel—
tis make a jonrney. •
Dist you receive any money before you received it for that
purpose ?---.-Nun mi record° !
What do yob mean by non mi record() ?'—f mean I have
it. not in my head to receive money when I say non mi re-
cordo' If I received money I would say yes, but Ido not re-
collect the contrary.
After souls observations from their Lordships, upon this
Meaning— . •
The Lord Chancellor 'said,- the House expected that if the
Interpreter (Mr. Colmen),at any timeAhought time translation
of the Marchese,Spinetto incorrect, notice should be immedi-
ately taken of it.
The Solicitor-General—Yew said, that after your examina-
tion at Milan, you retnrned to Vienna, Who sent .you to
this country ?—COlonel BroWn. He sent me to Vienna.
Who sent yob from Vienna to London ?—This I cannot say,
for a person came to fetch me, and tell me to come frorn
Vienna to London.
Did that Person come with you ?—This persOn brought me
to London ' • •
After you arrived at London, did ycits go to Holland ?-Yes,
I set out fur Holland.
Did you remain in Holland With the other witnesses ?
Mr. Brougham (interrupting the.Solicitor-General)—A re-
examination shouldembrace nothing but what rose out of the
cross-examination. He interrupted merely for the salve of re-
gularity.—(Order, order.)
The Solicitor-General said, that Mr. Brougham had cross-
examined for the purpose of raising an inference to the pre-.
judice of the witness.
[Here time Queen entered. Their.Lordsbips rose as usual.
Her Majesty took her seat next to her.Connsel
The Solicitor-General said, he was entitled to fill up all
the circumstances connected with the examination of Milan
imp to the arrival of the witness in London, with a view of
preventing a false construetion from being placed upon the
evidence.
Mr. Brougham trusted the House would allow bins to
reply.
The Lord Chancellor.--" You have a right to reply."
Mr. Brougham.—" Yes; but I trust that your Lordships
•, . y
disapprobation.". Be then contended that the Solicitor-
General had no right to question the witness upon the sub-.
ject of the particulars of the travels of the witness, except
as to those places to which the cross-examination referred.
• The Lord Chancellor, after having consulted with the
Judges, said, it was his opinion, and that of the other Judi-
Fiat Authorities, that the examination should be proceeded

With whom did you come here ?—I do not know.
Did you come with all the witnesses ?—No ; only wit
some of them.
Did you land at the same place with the other persons ?.
Yes,
(lave they all remained at the same lace?—Yes.
Have you come from that place to give evidence here ?.
Yes.

Have you all dined at the same table ?—Yes.
Whether on hoard the polacea, Where the tent was raised
were Mademoiselle Dumont -or Mademoiselle Brunet ?—J
don't know. • • .
Was Madame Dumont on board-?—Yes..
Was the Countess of Oldi there ?—Yes. •
Were there sleeping places on deck ? .
Mr. Brougham objected to the question and it was with•
drawn.

Was Madame• Brunet on board during the voyage?—Yes.
11 here her. Majesty was at Villa d'Este, were there -any
doors communicating with the corridor except one ?—Yes.
Was there only one door ?—Only one door.
When that door was skint, was there any other door com-
nunicatiog with the romp of. Bergami ?,
The' Interpreter said he fear e‘l he could not twilse him un-
derstand it ; but the question was repeated,and he answered,
that, when the door was shut, so far as he can recollect, that
there was a passage from Bergami's room to that of her
Royal flightless.
When her Royal Highness was at Naples, were there-not
two doors Irons the room where you slept communicating
with the cabinet ?—Yes, in the cabinet there was a•dour lead-
ing to the room of Bergami.
Was there to,t another door in Bergami's room?—There
was.
Where did that door open into communicated with
the-dining-room of the Prince-Ss. . •
Did it connunnicate with it direct. ?—There was a corridor
between. There was first a; dining-room, then a small cor-
ridor, anti then Bergami's room.
Was that the .roman in which her Royal Highness usually
dined ? —Yes.
How long did the witness remain in the service of her
Royal Highness ?—Three years. . • • •
Were you dismissed, or did. you go of your own accord ?-
lasked.once for my dismissal at Rome, and twice at Pesaro;
and then Bergami granted it.
Did her Royal Highness give you a charaCter under her,
seal ?—Yes.
Has the witness got the certificate about bim have.
Heie the witness produced a written document with a-seal
to it, and the Interpreter was called upon to read it.•
The Marquis of Buckingham at this part of the proceed-
ing, ohserved the want of a plan duly recognized by the
Learned Counsel on botlisides, was a serious inconvenience •
to the Hume.
The •Lorsl Chancellor said no plan covld he offered to their
Lordships, unless Counsel agreed to consider it correct.
The Solicitor',General said, " We have a plan, my Lords,
which ve c ns tier correctj,of the principal places the witness
has spoken to, but we are not in condition to proceed upon it,
because it is subject to the objections stated by tine Noble and
Learned. Lord. •If an agrcetuent•.to consider it-correct be
made-, we will act of on it to-morrow.".
Mr. Brougham expressed himself unwilling to agree to a
plan, as it might deprive him of the advantage to be o!,tained
by cross-examination of the witnesses.
The Interpreter was proceeding -to read Majocci's chataa-
ter, when Mr. Brongham admitted there was evidence of the
witness having been a good servant during most of tine time
he lived in the service of the Princess of Wales.
. The Solicitor-General—My Learned Friend has stigmatised
this witness as one of a gang of robbers. He endeavoured
'to show that application was made by this man to return to
the service of the Princess, and that he did not return. I
apprehend, ray Lords, when discredit is thrown on a witness
it is incumbent. on me to give evidence as to the opinion one
of the parties had of this nian.
Mr. Brougham-1 never said fault was found with him in
'tlie service of her present Majesty. The observations
plied to his leaving General Pinto's service. I never said her

ft oval VrigliYiett lilt PrlriceSs ot We§ was tilstAtisAeil With
,
hi: servites. What is t his tharacr er ? It is only a paper
winter' by Schavini. He gives a character to his country-
trtiin, acting'as MaSor• doom, and puts a great seal to it, and
that is to he considered evidente.
The I.old Chancellor observed, that it was necessary to
prove the. chanicter was: gir,n by-the authority of the Illus-
!t rious t'Crson whoke seal wo on it.
The SolicitopzGeneral then continued tI examination.
Dnes.the.witnes ' nember tich vini ?—.NIO. I\ '
sx ....
..,‘Nt.Sitvation ili ; ih • tioveir'of 4aZltrintess,
when the wiertjaifteA t e.-- q-* try or Mari.sehal:- -•-. .-,
What does that Mean ?—Manager of the House.
Had he the genet al management of the house ?—t do not
know who commanded.. Bergami commanded ; Schavini
cintiMandtd. It was impossible for me to say who commanded.
They all commanded.
Who had the superintendence of the - house ?—I do not
know.
Did you apply to Schavini for this paper ?
Mr. Brougham objected to this question ; and the Solici-
tor-General finally observed that he could -not show the cha-
racter was given by the authority of her Majesty, therefore
he should not offer it as evidence. He then concluded his re-
examination, and observed that he did not intend to ask the

witness any more questions•
The Lord Chancellor then said, does any Noble Lord wish
to ask any questions ?
The witness states there were tents and beds on the deck of
the polacca. What sort of weather had they ?—Where from?
From Jaffa to Terracina ?—I &root remember.
Questioned by Lord ELLENBOROIJGII.
.How was her Royal Highness dressed when she passed
through the cabinet. to liergami's room do not remember.
Did you Set. her Royal
,Highness distinctly ?—Yes.
Did you recollect the cloth, s she wore ?—1 did nut.
• • Examined by-Earl GREN
Was Bergami -in- bed -?'Yes.
- Did he pretend to be asleep ?—Yes, he slept'as I do now.
He feigned to be asleep ?—Yes, his eyes were half-closed.- ,
He shut them just enough to make her Rnyaj. Highness
think be was asleep, but not enough to prevent his,.seeing

her.—Yes.
Did you leave General Pino's serrice, or was you .dismissed
asked for my dismission, and Adjutant I,uni -told me he
could not discharge me until the taunt of General PIM)
from Milan.
Did General Pino, on his return, give,hirit his dismission?.
—Yes; the-Adjutant came, and told him he. was discharged.
Did you get a certificate of service ft out General Pino ?
No, I did riot as Tar one.
Where did he .go after his discharge ?—To Milan, to his

father.
Flow long did he remain there ?—•I do not remember.
•How loug was you out of service ?—sionre months.
How were you maintained during t hat (line?-1 gut mone
by going, buying, and selling horses.
When did you leave Milan ?-1 remember.
Where did yott gu to from• Milan ?—To Vienna, doting the
Congress.
How did yon go ?,-1-le'liad a horse of his own, and with two
companionS, he bought :r small cart, and went in that. He
went there to get his bread.
THere the Queen left the House.]
Earl Darnley.—Did Lady Charlotte Campbell ever dine'at
the table with Bergami?-1 do not know.
The Marquis of Buchingliam.—Did the witness see Ber-
gami and the Princess enter together the apartment where the
bath was prepared ?—Yes.
The witness has said he brought ihiwn two buckets of
water, and that Bergami receiV'ed them; where did, lie take
the water ?—I took two pails of Water to the door of the bath,
and Bergami came out and..took one of the pails.
Did you see the Princess when Bepgami took the pails ?
•NO, because she was within; I did not see tier.
Was there ally other dining room than that which led to
the hath ?—I do not remember.
Was there another small room besides that intended for
the bath ?-11e had uo'recolleetion 'of any•
. When he was going to make the bath, did he see the Coun-
tess of Ohli?—He did not see her.
,•
Did he see any female attendant 'of the Princess ?,--1 did
not see any.
The• Earl of Carnarvon wished the witness to say, whether,
there was more- than one bed- under the tent ?-1 do not
member` whether there was oat or two beds, but there was
one bed in the tent for the Princess.
Did the tent cover the whole deck, or was there room to
pass by the end of it ?—There was room for people to pass. .
• Does he know whether any 'person slept in the space where
there was room to pass ?-14e -could not tell.
The Marquis of Buckingham--At what- time of day' Ny
as
this bath taken to the cabin ?—At noon.
.....eci
How was Ber ami iteglud.TwAn,ljetleitxd e/r
--Li—d of
o mouth--How does the witness know the Princess
gave Bergatni a blue silk gown at the Villa Villani?—Because
I saw it on the back of llerganii.
That is no answer-'—Did you remember the Princess giving
the blue silk gown to Bergami ?—Yes.
I wish to know hitw lie knows she gave it to him ?—Bemuse
he told him her Royal Highness-had given hini that dress.
-LordOx ford—The witness says, he did not see the Princess
in the cabin when the water was carried in ; where did he see
her?--When the bath was -eady Bergami went up stairs, took
her Royal Highness, brought her down to her room, went in
with her, and shut the door.
Lord Duncan—Can the witness swear that :her female at-
tendants were not at that moment in the bath with her ?-1-4
could.gsqar it; nut having seen any body irs-the bath room.
Was you in the room, or outside the dour of the cabin near
the room?—When I was at the door where the bath was,
Bergami went up stairs to tell the Princess -the bath oas
ready; when he came down Bergami told me to be at the
door, forif there be any want of water you will be ready to
give it me.
Which door was this ?—At the door of the bath.
Earl Grey—Was-you able to • see any body lit the room ?--
When the door .was oven.-
Will you swear there was no person in it but Bergami and
the Princess ?—I can swear it; nobody but Bergathi and the
Princess•went intollse room:
Did the.witness mean to say nobody else entered the room,
or that nobody else could be in the room without his see-
ing them ?-1 have seen no other but the Princess and Ber-
gami..
Was it possible for any other person to he in the room
without his hearing them ?—No, that could not' be ; fur if
there had been another person I must have seen her.
The Lord Chancellor—The witness being asked where the
bath was prepared, says, in the cabin. He says; the first time
I carried water, Bergami came and put his hand into it, to
see that nothing was wrong. lie then brought the Princess
down to the room where the bath was made, and Bergami,
and the Princess remained in wish to ask, if he• was in
the cabin where the water was, and whether any body went
into that cabin but Bergami or the Princess ?
Was there any person in the room in which the bath was
prepared when Bergami went up' stairs to-bring the Princess
down ?,When he did bring the Princess down, 'did Bergami
and the Princess enter, and was the door shut of the room in
which the bath was ?
The questiousbeing put to the witness, he answered—.
There was nobody but Bergami and the Princess--1 saw
door-
Will
an 3
nobody.
p
.croo- sti:d enor—Was there any other door by which
go into the bath ?—I have notieetrany.other
Willyou swear, there was no other door ?—I will, because
I have ieen none.
'Jh •
lord
Lord
nut have t itha?—d Ibfetettite:rten another rb
been
loi door
it)!
other door, I must have seen it.
I,,e:::tbouglit
it
ifilitgaitit%S;paesy,t,ahieitessd•,itn,ess's situation when
11ectgoaumidillieefsteteheinbia,otthheroloantih?—?..I_‘‘17s• there with hot water,
hen Bergami wet:Coot, he
shut the door sideways, making as little oprniint as he could.
long was the Princess in the bath ?—About half an

A Peer-1 wish to ask, when Bergami left the bath, was
he dressed in the same manner as when he went in ?—He
was.

Earl Grey—Ask whether he again went to the door of the
bath h warm water, when Bergatui went to call the maid ?
I remained there till he told me to go away.
When did lie tell you to go away ?—When, lie went to the
top to call Mademoiselle Dumont, he said, now no More
waterli wanted. . .
Did you go.imniediately, or wait till Mlle. Dumont came
down ?—Bergami remained up stain; Mlle. Dumont came
immediately doWn, and I took my pails and went away, and
saw Mlle, Dumont go alone into the bath.
Does lie know how lung the Princess ;•emained in the bath
after Mlle. Dum.ont came into it ?—I cannot know it, because,
I went away.
When Mademoiselle Dumont came down, was Bergami.
with her ?—No; I only saw Mad. Dumont.
.A-Peer—With reference. to former answers of the witness,
in which he says that hw went to. fetch two pails of water to
the bath, I want to ask, if, on receiving orders he went away
any where that. ti-me in order to. get the water, that it. might
be ready when 13erganii should call for it ?—No; I went no

whot, broute sditot gate the the tkat'el* at the door
the (lining room. the
Another Peer—He received the water at the door Of
dining roam then, and not at the door of the hatlaroodi
1'
A sailor came as far Al the door Of the dining roout 01
two pails, and I took flre V
and carried them toe door °
-.
the bath.
.(1 Did yen receive it in the 'di •ttg r 4 did tit tp
not-„
Wie,(side"4 t re,cei it tie dotrw;
be
ont. NOV,
w dit r4gaiit?thal e; t:S BRPY
t.p
athr
!watiti*d ?—Because was the sailors who gut ready the b
and it was said her Royal Highness was going to take
On
bath that (lay.
The Earl of DonoughmoreThe witness has stated that a
tent was pitched on board the vessel, 1 want to know whe!beiri
he meant by this a tent of the same description 'of that use
on land by her Royal Highness, or whether it was Merely arl
awning ?—lt was a tent which was strait above the deck
with
:a rope, and in the evening it was clused as a tent all roundt
In the evening it was let down, and they said, stop it up all
round well,'see that there be no holes. It was a simple tent:
sometimes other pieces of canvas were put round to stop
any opening.
I wish to know by whom the witness was recommended to
the serviceof the Princess Bergami.
Earl Grey—Does he know if the Princess was in the bath
before Bergami left it to go for Mademoiselle in
That I can't know, because I could not see into the bath.
Marquis of Lansdown—The witness has stated that
(65' bc,
asked for his discharge from the service of the Princes.
wish to know what motive be ha for wishing to be
chaiged ?—Because her Royal Highdness was surruntaled
had people.
Earl of Carnarvon—How was her Royal Highness dreited
when she went into the bath ?—That 1 cannot recollecresst. ,
Was she in her ordinary dress, or in a bathing d
I cannot precisely remember either what dress she
not. -
What was the size of the bath ?—lt. was a small site
bath.
What furniture was in it remember a sofa, *l)°,
• every morning was placed there with a cushion, when

opened the tent. see'
Witness has stated that he asked to quit the Princess 6 0,
vice, because lie had a had opinion of those who were ah.,,,
her—lf that was, his motive, I wish to ask what it was '„
made hint afterwards wish to be restored to the service ot ,"
Royal Highness—whether lie altered his opinion
Earl Grey—That is precisely what I wanted to ask.
Ele says it was in a kind of conversation list be a"
whether might be possible to enter her Royal Hi
service service again. It was in that kind ut way.
Did witness then Ifleelll nothing se.iUus'in causing
;ion to he made to be restored ?—Ni'. It was as 1.'01'4" to
in common conversation, would it nut be again posst."l'iot
enter ;he service of the Princess ?-1 was iu Sef Vice at I •
time. -
Viscount FalmouthHe hoped their Lordships wono
cute hint putting another question which he thought of:
'wit
purtance. The witness had answered, that from has poot
he could not know whether the Princess was in the
to
not. Now, he bad before said, that when•ho tuck the
to Bergami, if any body else was there he must hay:
them ; he wished to ask the witness how he could re'
oo‘
this apparent inconsistency ? s?
The Eat! of Lauderdale said, the answer of the wanes' is
hided in one case to his capability of seeing into the bath
the other, of seeing into the room.
Viscount Falmouth said,-if he remembered
_right, 1114 °l'
swer in both cases was made w.tb reference to the rooni..no,
Eat lof LiverpoOl thought the question, in the first iit oe
was asked as to his power of seeing into the bath : and err
next, as to seeing into the moor. He did not see that tP
was .any contradiction on this point. •
After some fat ther conversation, the short-band writer
called upon to read his notes of the questions and answer,c,,,f
the occasions allude d to, hy which it appeared that he 110
-been guilty of any contradiction.
- Lord Dr Duostanville—Could you distinguish the Otte
whilst the Princess and Bergami were in the -hathero°l°
gether ?—No; but I heard whispers.-
Were they male or female voices ?-4 he, two rein
speak, but could not make Out which was the atan's or ‘s.
was the woman's.
tU
Brougham obtained permission to ask, throug
Court, a few questions of this witness. He wished °of,
• what wages he had from the situation he was in at the,ol
of his conversation. with respect to re-entering the sett
the Princess ?
This cinestion was put by the Lord Chancellor:
cannot remember. • •Hier
Did not the witness make repeated applications to ~„(•
nylons to lie retaken into the service ?-1 do nut remerlor„,
Whether he did not also make applications to Cal°,„fief
he retaken, five or six times ?—The first or second ,•
run aril red -at Milan use sent his son for toe, wheoro],,%f
himself told me; Thcodore Majocci, remember now you "-loci'
enter into service, for the Princess wants to have )'° Of/
•again. Camera . Gire me tbe -certificate of your alht (1
ter, and I will tell her Royal Highness that you have 0" 00
tered into service since you hare left her, and she will d.ltei
for the whole time that you have been out of place, anew,'
all the damages. I told Camera, give me back &NYS-oft;
(because I had given it to him theo,) because •rather ;OP
b
into the -service of her Royal Highness I would rattler g-
eat grass.
.Was this conversation with the young.Carnera of '4.3
mera ?—With the father.' ‘r°
1.3
Did he ever after make application to Camera to --
l
back;,—l do not remember. 7/ia
Does he know that Camera was examined at ,
this I do not know.
Earl of Lauder dale this conversation before r'
to Vienna, or subseqnent to it?—Before I went to
[The examination of this witness having closed, he
dered to withdraw.]

•. . .
SECOND WITNESS. i
~ilf
Gaetano Paturzo was the next witness bro"
forward. • lie was about to be sworn. e
Pc
Mr. Denman begged to ask what teligion the witneo
fessed ?—Cal holic, or APostidic. At.
oi(l
M. Denman then said, That with permission of the, C, ',
he would-ask when he -last took the Sacrament llcc-09,
should be able to show that no <lath was binding 111 9
%;, ,
of Justice with a person of his persuasion, hut ,;,,l'''
taken within a certain time after he received the, S3cl.,l'iie"'
.The Lord Chaneellor, alter consulting with the ~
decided that it would beano objection to swearing. the 5'1,,(0
lour
on this account. The question was therefore norpatt D
i
oath was administered in the usual form. „ O
The Lord Chancellor—Mr. Attorney-General go c'-'
00
raiseTbeyour toice. till'
'Attorney-General—Ask the witness what Olin
he
Wis ?—A native of*Napl.
hat is his occupation ?es—Captain of a Merchantnts'bof
Ask if be be part owner of the vessel be commands'
a share. ad
What share ?—One-fourth. 01An •
Ask if iu April, 1816, he was Master of a ship cool
by
What Gargeuno?—l waS. .
lr(
was the tonnage of that vessel ?—Three iv .
tons. .. n $llO 4
. .
Does he remember the Princess of Wales coming e-
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that ship-at. Angusta in Sicily ?—1 do. pfincc r
Where did the vessel sail to from Augusta with the, , "ter
on boat d :—Directly to Guisgundi, where, not -havitl°
enough, we went to Tunis. i to
Asli if lie remembers the names of those who sailed 6
vessel opi that occasion ?—AI most all. . rtol°!'ir
Let him name them as far as he recollects ?---I"3" C.'
llergami,,Couot Schavini, Mr. Ww. Austin, Theodore'h j
Sodlo.
lino, and the cook. Francis. • —0 ,
Any women ?—The Countess Oldi, Dame d'F u%lon
two maids, one Mlle. Dumunt, and the other Brunetti ,
f til
.little child Victorina.
situation o bps
When they first sailed, .does he know the i caaii
cabins of. the Countess of Oldi and the Princess? -•••••:%he rib
of the ship was divided into two parts ; the one or) 'li
,„
bad the lied of her Royal Higkuess. eahl't
Dors he koow where Bergami slept
on the right hand, immediately after the dioing-rono,tio
In what part of the ship ?•---In the body of the: 04c
whole size of the ship is divided into two parts; h 0011
• tits.
one of the small cabins near the coop, and neat ,e
-f ili
rt./Om. length
?—in the fit be
Ask if the dining-room extended the whole leo;
vs',
ship?— this 4 0
Mr. Denman objected to the manner of putting otte
tion. -He looked upon it as'a leading questi."--• a''' the
those which leads to an answer of ~ Yes, 'or " °,,v'itbiti '
The Attorney-General thought the question was
strict rules of all Courts of Law on the A t .it
obecte- ogi'
Mr. Denman —The principle on which lie from ord 't
w.as, that it asked whether a particular room went trotelpacu
ticular point to a partienlar point, whereas be c° e°,
Jtolg
ought to be " how far did it go ?" '
"th the
The Lora Chancellor having consulted wi , . root"
decided that the question ought to be allied-- iintrig ~, for
• HoU, much of the • breadth- of the' ship the '
that it
took up ?—The whole breadth of the ship. exceP!
501.
purposes connected with the cleanliness of the "
cubject.