The Sun.
London, England, 1842-02-09 00:00:00

AI()IRNING SUN
gaming those s
on similar vmptoma of disagreement which had been seen
motions in that House.—t H hear, hear. ) that
if net, he begged
to assure the Rightear, Hon: Gentleman, that
'net,
humble assistance it was in his power to render should be
given
I‘to meet that opposition.—( Cheers. )
bylre G. PALMER said that he could not allow a subject of
d=ial importance to the commerce of the country to pass
t_out recording his opposition to it. He did not think
" (flauld be doing his dui v it he did not oppose the measure;
li'cltt*sted that, those Gentlemen who were inclined to bring it
iiirWit'ltevroald consic:er well what they were aboot —( Hear. )
eseeZ not expect that any opposition from him would have
NQlefteet un- question which had been brought forward last
i ne- ',the Rona.Gentlen an oppssite, and which was now in-
byr-••tlted. the Hon. Gentleman near him.—( Hear, hear. )
G .40.4
s'' RUSSELL said that lie must certainly defend the
itt4del•aellent on this occasion from one of their own supportprust,
he ".Q!' introduction of the present Bill.—( Hear, hear.)
awls/led to sa a few words on the subject of the introduction
Wae• attar trod corYn into Canada from the United States. There
aasfree trade in corn between those places, and it had been.
objected to by an agricultural interest in Upper Canada, w.nnh,
eeesidered it a grievance that corn and flour should. be admitted
duty
tr"' ee. Now, as respected Canada and this country, that
t7-ediniesion of corn was of the greatest henefit.t Tit
.) There was now an agricultural and landed interest l
Per Canaria, which could forward the same reasons against
fl..,irat„ free trade which had been used at home.—( Loud cries
rtl Rear, hear, hear ") If by any alteratione isnlatttbree lawof 1
C was intended only to permit the L i -
he to impose duties on the flour of the Unitedg States,
was e was afraid the conse uenees would he to foster a body
talia who would be ready to give serious opposition to its pros-
trade
and he did not
aPeratditeybe.--t(liear.), He saw rio danger in encouraging
le, , vieen North America Canada,. .a
!lid::atatki tt
whe:i-uicod,uilnd ehnistino•cpecntihoen:lbuety.veryThe fronthee.rirwapsros,oilsaiorgues:
there were so many means of defeating t
Fanadian flour from that of the United States.
tending to foster
roleiple of the 'tight Hoe. Gentleman seemed to him as
diffic,iilttetso. silNist.oin.ag,utihshe
Which he thought would
undue monopoly mino.unroitoeuilsy, inau
dC awnial
which
h—hae
,i
o io monopolyone,
Peald be very sorry see established. He hoped, t ier
tahre, that that
fur-
fieasure of the Part
of
mat whatever
!r coheideration. 18 ith respect to the other partesiveof the
the measure, at least, would receive
111
ght Hon. Intentlt iht on,. Geintle mrre
s,
tnheesawlaysitigi Ilavdhit(o.hfitrifide
have been t le e a
Gentleman had last year opposed the measureud
thel'reolucere be his
s (Lord John Russell's) Right lion. Flee
le late president of the Board of Trade—( Hear, hear, hear)—
with ~,t,r,° longer entertained those objections which he had urge
',(i so nmeh confidence and ability.—( Opposition cheers. )
',meth CHARLES DOUGLAS denied that the party. to
tPhe had the honour to belong had offered any uniform
iiltTsittion to the principles developed that evening by his
hfloh...tion. Friend, the Vice-P 1 esident of the Board of 'Trade.
to a
slipeoelhilaronet, in confirmation of this assertion,. referred teleeitnut eot Mr. Berries, in which that Right Hon. Gen-
had said that the Government night be assured of re-
giment,,leg the same assistance in their measures of Colonial im-
aser°;th,firroronwlith.e side of the House to which he belonged
Sir . ROBERT EEL
511 Y
inferenceet
il ie.ntmi ratesod uteoPui n;.:114-"t
b""ght
~ , 'night be the intentions of the Go-
the House not to draw
!e . their U., h regent ro the e tie of commercial olicy,
besought
moaght
Yernment on V- the Present Bnil'sf.—( Hear, hear.) He
an opportunity Of
spend their judgments until he should,s have
stating the views of her Majeste' Se
leo such infe the gener 1 • ses ."Hear, hear.")
a question.--(Cries ut.
relies, ; s Fawn .
Stated pub;iely last :'l t_ at piesent, could he just. He had
she.o4...r.;Yetaphpeoivrta.s pHreeparheadd t
torielle
gai 1 .
se_ zral questions of year,co,unthaet
.altihough. hferodutissented entirely on
the late Govern-
PToletjbe iresent measure his
juslOtten brought forward first, on the ground of absolute
leuenderstoold that the measure
tab tie' and secomlly, on the ground of the general policy appli-
tit:Totl
oortur :West Intlia colonies. No restriction existed asto
tithe
rest
dlletions t e't
'troll of articles into our East India possessions, whitets
into
aor
lietioris were still suffered to remain en the imports India colonies. • We admitted East
.India pr .
ten, 0_ e ehrapete in our markets with West-India produ.s:
ow,
..1 the ground of justice; then the West Italia colonies
tsst4st.,o,be placed on the same footing, in that respect, as our
4. reference to any statedTla lit?stessfolls•—( Hear, hear. ) It had been dist,"
.),
vrithoot"tt this measure ought to pass on the gioutids ut justioi
other measures, and oil those grounds
atieereetpleported it If the Right lion. Gentleman had,...peirt-
Peeuss with his measure, he would. have received his (sit H.
meth,ortitsen cordial suppor t. What could he more 1 t
t than that he should now withdraw his suppor_ tut beie) Bill, althoegh he had supported it last year?
feet a qfzed the House not to draw any inference from that
14 ),4 t° the general commercial policy of the Governm ehntt
With respect dtally acquiesced in this measure last year ; •
liewti the future intentions of the Government, he
Were tilt e, House would draw no inferences as to what they
essiy 0 e e
1.7 tO be from that acquiescence. He would take an
toes oPe,Ptanity of stets% to the House what were the intim-
shonhi. the Government with regard to those questions. He
rules i' tn• Morrow, state those intentions with respect to one
knit), ion,P(httant question and he would take an early oppor-
othit„ 1. stating what those intentions were with regard to
ha% lir" lthpertant subjects, when he was afraid it was pry,-
ttlibo4 at the harmony at present existing would be ch-
liehac-(lie•ar, hear. ) He thought the Nobie Lord would
views• !rePeaion to taunt them With the adoption of all the
Pellet.
i?„_the late Government on questions of commercial
peruse tiluen he (Sir Robert Peel) should lay before the
Nett, e Ineasnres by which the present Government -pro-
tieri„' C'tticate the country from the grave financial difficul-
tT. ws,hteh we-were involved.
the Seity,°ThAßT WORTLEY wished to call the attention of
Wheat imported
the litriti,,,ereLn_ent to the present state of the corn trade between
Into i'.,t otates and our Canadian colonies. 01141.thted States was subject to a duty
while
. the'
which
of 2.5 cents. a
rittfitity was
pm as equal to a .
to
corn was permitted
be i ates into Canada. Moreover,
'led St at upon the importation of wheat from the
duty,'NOW li i why we should enable the
ltlP?e,rted into this country from Canada at a low. rate
neans , e courd not see
duty was
Ltfl.be 'tats et. the United States to send wheat into Canada
it l duty, while, at the same time, a high
thestii(lth its
e importation' into the United States; atsd he
the eese' ' ever there 'fair case for reciprocal restrictions,
Nit -ye of the corn wast
a bet ween Canada and the United
thefnet Presented one trade
(dlelear hear.) He did not recommend
the iii?sition of duty for the sake of duty, but for the pu.r-
etb,tit Was to he dime at all, of preventing indirect and il-
°l'll in74-„e,, Which existed simply and solely by means of our
On te'Rene and neglect.
thee t. "rotion of the Right Hon. Gentleman, the Chairman
22d inPtirted progress, and obtained leave to sit again on the
t,
, hd the House resumed.
e.ftlr. er.
RAILWAYS.
wretee t E. GLADSTONE, pursuant to notice, moyed for
:he Rio,llls,ring in a l3ill for the better regulation of Railwalyassi
liettP, te",t,„,lhintl• Gentleman said that the expersienc of
had shown
Itiet!to conLstainttdeing some lamentable
subject
that the administra-
;Z
afthe tomraiciglett
etoone'whhisiicohn tiohisstastujg exceptions,
dnbeen referred
CO lice
slhet, t:::tja,tlwaYs had upon the whole continued to
With
the
ces to be given to engine-drivers, he thought
%gilt t, b. ,as also of opinion that no provision in that r.esptecet
thenttiteti,aieTced into the Bill. Certainly, that %etas
_he
(41g/lt th es Board of Trade had arrived a.. p
on eY should look to the action of public opinion
I:isst Persons
ilsi serenity °e"PYing that station, as the real and
l'itits nn this score. Of course it would
tittwre„e4t;tkiloientivinPeon to Parliament to enlarge the.
the art of the Government. In. the
inette e,lnhtaefitYs a reportpwould be laid on the table of the
itfe„-"e last leg all account of the accidents on railways duts:
either MilliWir;* By that report it would be seen that ac
Ile tViliseonankil "eurred were by no means traced. le
not aught tbr the°
that it was bett,r
to lair e fit, mpetence on the.part of the engineers.
was orte °dace any no
would be of opinion
lay on ter'eettl. tst year whtch he did not think neces-
ja'rY to P'evisons4nlew provision in this respect. That, then,
found •••e table
e tno,ss iinpaateaeot the ewers "
11
t°
e'll eeeniatned several clauses which wou
The Bill which he asked leaveld
hteo
Provide
prop sod to
Isere - three oe . *reuses were those which.
Government —( Hear )
in. °Pened 'eelent r . of new railways before they
ssa if the • Ovin
thine
hspection
all getaent• If the hear. e . _
'ana, Y showd Board power to postpone the open-
, i k necessary —( Hear,
he Corn-
Paelli4 not saal,itattwaYs had been wrong,
.his Hon. Friend
site el, but e wreaked all his indignation on t
eerved sorre o .
prittietlHeasr(hueld have re. f it for the Govern-
er thes had gene ar, and laughter)—for certainly railwa m-
yeahes
4111t..he ennedrintinto ent• The safety
, Got, raflY shown a disposition to yield to the wie
d the
lee of nof the soil over which it passed, an
6 $ 0.,,, (orne Ce • of a railsee!y much depended
.41( d ' tnetri to traduce
ropames had 'l them to run passen-
e f o soon.' Por this reason, the Board of Trade
the °l' power to
powers think it ettPlene the opening railways when
. 141 ott); ebthut
it
was evident
on the
o vlll t t - l'"elSai.Y. The Board also asked for enlarged
.l d_ :age returns of
the At present they could
of
either of
fe4ttllthight oce4,l7‘wd
glee',se Board desired to°llll
ehnht that instances fate gross
laiatnhaegree-
Turrence of dents to life or
those . injuriesinto.all cases
!so orctihderrit•—alear, hear. "e
power
)'I he Board also asked 4
power to inquire
etYs, , gates to be erected across roads opening into rad-
.e,,, .Or
1:447
.1, cases, had not
the gatesbehith_erto reffict.e.d across railways,
t to prevent acci-
,lte :epics ' 40, that gate " f°l;mt
Ot is 0,,,,t . _ s opening rom.fsaarmtsleoan to railways should
neeesso next to appoint arbiters to settle disputes when
.6 i jipnint ry to carry a road under or over a railway, shd
0,,111e1t w 41,1 umpire, thus putting an end to those disputes..
,o,e,
1,0 ere
th some cases carried cm to the injury of the public ,
tia7_,,, the prove me
I 7 Ut 1,4 i . for branch railways,. and restricting the
"' , efore e e engines be n •s, te parties which had been allowed
t• us • -*mien e.' ' n.a - ' Otherwise he proposed
~1 glve Rail ee snowed its danger. .
a ther ways to
'' Viefl ete-a;"lethern to execute work, an- in
eath as to ri,Vbi?' Companies powers which they did not possess,
-ere I whitingw ' be too steep or to widen em•
I,t 9 R ad
land, when it was necessary for them. to slope
~.,
~, tents , were found to ee'ean re, e•is tnat were too narrow. The Right Hon. Gentle-
fe:lleft Pehided b
c6lll,leinlatioyn Mori 'n
for
leave to bring in a Bill far the
adelfle°d4e 8111THORP Railways.s glad the lion. Gentleman had
sliettiiir,-- the course which he formerly had the pleasure of sug-
saetat.:l,and that it was placed in such able hands. He was
' S.y3 -`hy hut one motive in that opposition which he had al:
ll4tide.§l°,ell to the introduction of railway schemes, and if
liaeoYer" increased, as they had done latterly, he could
' it5:444134d that his Honourable Friend had in-
this w" a Rill for the annihilation of railways.
thee% -el Hon. Gentleman told thereto with regard to the
its
res which he proposed for the consideration of the
ths ,„et that great discretionary powers were to be given to
enitt,':),overriment, it appeared to him that little public good
IN
o"p•tlsult from it in regard to the lamentable accidents and
Gesete which had of late occurred ; and if the Honourable
ltiesinvniall should not do so, he would take the liberty of
.tho . f. for a return of those accidents, and of the opinions of
s., ii„ Juries on the various cases. He thought, too, that suffi-
thaitt.had fallen from the public Press on this subjec.t. and he
e ))01;t7t1 in particular to one Paper. from which he differed in
, 4411e.ial Matters-4e alluded to The Sun, the comments of
.. she'
}'poem the unfortunate accidents which occurred, were of
eider, sgittary kind, and whose efforts in urging that some
greaCr frleiasnre should be adopted to prevent them, conferred
Akteure"Piets on itself. riti tbought flint most of those accidents
es teetotSe"‘ irnm want of due prenaution on the part of the Di-
,.., for. s i and he would be glad that a measure was brought
thor.f.a.,:d for settling a greater responsibility on them. He
I,,asught it was necessary that such a course of inspection as
thil:eatteed should be adopted, not only with regard to new
rni,,!•Ys, but regarding all railways. lie thought that, impos-
e,',',.,'!nere Oeodand, even of 1,0001.. was not a sufficient re-
}e'Pene to the relatives of the sufferers. The Direetors of
iti°g,... 'themes should be compelled te, support the families o'
.IVhe were killed lie was also of opinion that the losses
ss:
.teilit,, inell i4v the proprietors of stage-coaches should be made a
~. ,14 Pr' emesideretion by her Majesty's Miristers. , e
s, a,,,_ ''' ' that railroade Wen) a proper subject of taxation ;
, 'th .. 14 ore a revenue to the Government, and would
-se • eY Wou i,, •
~ 110 t at
th,e boa
.-4 the people. lie would give every oppo-
''
tritsio,a Ztthe Bill of the Rig:: .t-ion. Gentleman,
' e express his opinion
- , thatP. WAKLEY said he felt tiounu - -tte would not
4 4 •
~...the Bill of the Right Hon. Gentleman oppoe...
He was
)4 , carry the object he intended to effect by it.
~,„„__
.4,,- iitpinion that a far more stringent 'Leasure war trPtt"'"/ to
s, t'ar, hear, from Col. Sibthorp)—but he was POMPPOPt
j, tea that he feared the influence of railroad proprietors Fes rfg
.1, eat in the House for any such Bill to pees into a paw.
~
,?e,, allowed, however, that when three or four Lords heel lost
f i", lives, or two or three Members of the Government /eel
°1: theirs, the. House would be dispersed to synipathise with
• ine• ut until the lives of some Noblemen were saerilieed, be
144 •' ' '
no haps the House would pass such a law as the circuits-
atances of the case required.—(Laughter.) The Right Hon.