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without divorcing words and thoughts from actions, ,
and generating an irremediable moral confusion. The
world would say that the DisSenting ministers and
middle classes who have agitated this queation., were
they to stop short of resistAM, Were not sincere, that
they hail concealed purpose to serve, and did not
believe what they said. But we are assured that such
is not the case ; that wide-spread .plans to resist and
overturn the particular law, are openly discussed, and
will in time, if the law be not abolished by the Le-
gislature, be carried into execution. There is great
danger, then, of provoking resistance ; and while we
impress on our readers; on the one hand, the advan-
tages of peaceful agitation, we must, on the other,
caution the lawmakers to beware of persisting in aline
of conduct which justifies disobedience to the law.

At the Greenwich Police Court yesterd iy, Mr.
JEfirstv, the Magistrate, held Mr. M‘DouALE to bail
to keep the peace and be of _good behaviour for six
months, himself in,so/. and two sureties in 251. each.
Why not for all his life, and why not hold every man
to bail? We see as much.reason for one as the other,
Mr. Mg-Jot:Am.'s offence seems, from What the Magis-
trate said, to be two .fold ; first, "he went to a meeting
called for a specific purpose, and, miens miens, at-
temptel to introduce some other subject, and to eject
the chairman from the chair." That was conduct of
all othe:s likely to.create a disturbance: Secondly,
he " had been, holding an illegal
.meeting at an illegal
place, and at an unseasonable hour."
With regard to the first offence the evidence
we think completely exonerates Mr. M'DouALL.
Nobody deposes that' he took an active part in the
disturbance in the chapel, or that he went there for
any improper pUrpose. On the contrary, it was ex-
pressly deposed by Mr. JOHN WADE (one of the
trustees of the chapel) that it was a public meeting at
which all classes were invited to attend ; that he saw
nothing improper in Mr. M`DorAEE's conduct, and
walked out with him arm in arm. The Magistrate's
observations, so far as the first charge is concerned, are
wholly unwarranted by the evidence, and seem dic-
tated by a pre-formed resolution that on such grounds
he w ould hold the first Chartist to bail who insisted
on discussing the Charter at any meeting called for a
different purpose.
With respect to he second charge, we also take a
different view from Mr. JEE.Exy. Mr. 111`DouALE
followed a crowd to the. Broadway, which was directed
thither by a spontaneous movement ; .he there spoke
to them, and we cannot believe that such a chance
assemblage is correctly described as " holding an ille-
gal meeting." Suppose the people had been sum-
moned out of the chapel by a report that Greenwich
Hospital was on fire, and that Mr. M`DouALE
had -gone thither with the . multitude to assist
in putting out the flames ; suppose that he had
harangued them as to the method they should observe
in their proceedings, that surely would not have been
an illegal meeting. It was not, therefore, the accom-
panying a multitude from the chapel to the Broadway,
and there speaking to them, that constituted this an
illegal meeting.
Neither was it the hour, fpr no hour would be un-
seasonable for a multitude, headed by Mr. M'DouALL,
to save from danger the noble home of our worn-out
sailors.- Nor can we think the place illegal. A wide
space used for stalls, a sort of market of a Saturday
night, adjoining a public thoroughfare, but not con-
stituting a part of it, was a legal and proper place
for Mr. M`Doui.w. to speak to his friends. What
constituted the illegality of the meeting in the Ma-
gistrate's eyes was, we are afraid, the tenour of
Mr. M'DouALL's language. He spoke, according to
the Police Inspector, of the " tyrant aristoeraiy of
the country, who are trampling on the rights of the
poor man." It was Mr. M'llotALE's sentiments,
not his speaking to a number of persons spon-
taneously collected on a spare piece of ground, which.
constituted, we are afraid, the illegality of the meet-
ing in the eyes of the Magistrate. He was held to
bail because he entertains Chartist ophiloos ; and had
he at the same spot, and at the same hour, delivered a
discourse in favour of the Aristocracy and the State
Church, we believe the Magistrate and the Police
would only have interfered to protect him from the
abuse of the multitude. •

We have noticed the cot-Iliad of the Magistrate
first, which we must stigmatise as partial and unjust,
because his decision wholly exonerated the Police
Superintendent, and took all the responsibility of his
having locked up Mr. M‘Docm..r. on hiumlf.. Mr.
JEREMY, by his decision, justified Mr. MALLILEU.
It is the law, according to Mr. JEREMY, and accord-

ing, we regret .to -say, to other and much higher
authorities, Oat a conservator of the peace, alias
a police, or any other constable, may form an opinion
whether an assembly of people be illegal or
not ; and if he fancies that it may lead to a
disturbance of the Ace, it is the law that he may,
without warrant or summons, arrest any of the per-
sons there assembled, drag them down from a pump
by force, keep them in prison for a night, and the
Magistrate will hold them to bail in 'the morning,
Mr. M‘DouALL made no riot, he struck no person,
he offered no resistance to the law ; but the far and
foreseeing Mr. MALLILEU perceived a breach of the
peace in the denunciation of the aristocracy, and
therefore he forcibly and violently assaulted and ar-
rested Mr. M'DOUALL. Order and peace are ex-
cellent things, but we doubt Whether they are not
too dearly purchased when, to obtain them, the
liberty of every man must ba placed at the mercy of
every 'police constable. We cannot question the
legality of Mr. JEREMY'S decision, for we believe 'it
to be quite legal ; we cannot question the legality of
Mr. MALLILEU'S conduct, for it had the sanction of
the Magistrate ; but we can and must say that the
conduct of both was improper and injurious to the
public peace. In truth, the present conduct of the
police, in eternally meddling with all the concerns of
the people,' and: the t (Maud of the Magistrates in sup-
porting them, constitute a heavier scourge for the
community than the disorders the police and the
Magistrates may possibly suppresN

A MAI fi iile itocbblave was murdered last week
by his son, a young man of eighteen, in the commune of
Niialet (Gard.) The father lived unhappils With his wife,
and frequently had quarrels wit her: On the day on
which the fatal aet Was entninith §Ohig iviiildB arose as
usual, when the gbh Interfered and took the mother's
part; Urged on by her,. he seized a large stone, and
hurling it at his father .struck him on the temple. The
father fell, and the son ininsediatt.4- Attite Iteat him most
ferociously, 'striking hint With the Stone until he was
dead. The murderer then took to flight; lilt In t'yo hours
returned and p;a1,15 hitaelt tip piisfflief. Ills Mother is
also in eitstUdY.
The direction of the preparations for the funeral of
the Duke of Orleans, is confided, says, the goniteur Pa-
risien, to M. Visconti., who has reecit:&l tIP3 accessary
instructions :and pokers: All the Nelsons ,who are to
assist him intVe 6WII spetially nominated by the Minister
of the intiliint. Workmen are actively employed in pre-
paring the draperies and other ornaments with which
the Cathedral of Notre-Dame iS ttf 1)e hot On this truly
awful solemnity, whieh,,it is lidw SAO; Ittlte place on
the 30th instant, inSteAd it AS first §Uggtsted
Many workmeh 1111vrti It sts been sent to Dreux to prepare
the tomb fur the reception of the august remains.
An address of thanks to Mehemet Ali f6r heepmg
•
open the communication thttligh Egypt iti 1840, bettuti..
fully engrossed Oh Vellum, with the Royal arms of .Eng-
land at the top, together with tt large t;tild medal, bear-
ing an admirable likeliest of the Venerable Pieta, will
be transinittOd by the next try& to the English Censulat
Alexandria, for presentation to his Highness.
,
THE HIGHLAND SclClttr,'"Thw entries stock
have nnw closed. Those flit. *dol, continue
open until the 2.5 th idmilentars are more nume-
row, and the aggregiat of the stock it considerably greater,
than at any former show. The number of stock is 1,000, and
the animals being all selected, the wide range which this large
number represents will he easily tind6rstildd. The Duke of
Buccleuch, we believe! *in cbtitOete ill the itittesi nniiitter of
classes. The Duke at liielaiond, the Duke of Sutherland, the
Marquis of Tweeddala, -the Earl of WMityst, the Earl of Hope-
!Tont: numbdremedean4 tither great
itreetiagterotifiettirs, ind a lung list of well-
known
former occasion has the name,lt Mt
hen tiehneercalin Show,e titert.e
enOsno
appropriately applied, for the competitors are Widely spread
from the southern to the most hitt .)te hurt aril countries.
There are a number of entries of shbft-horned cattle, Leicester
sheep, anti other stock from England: In these cla,ses our
own breeders, with their usual zeal, also eome forward In con-
siderable numbers, and we belletta they du so wi!h Mite tOn•
r seestb
wille e
nbehethlde. beTstheand increasedmostnumro facilitiesu s ex-
hibitionbyfi d en ce
that The
horses
yet
railway bring a considerable Lumber of the. Ayrshire breed of
E—h
Re EGd
yd
ois
inn
A 5
the
ge h Witness,
cattle, and of horses of the Clydesdale breed, from Lanarkshire,
Ayrshire, and the adjoining countries. The sheep in all the
classes
tsGi_acriAcnie riynocint:emsAte rwocau
ssL.
Edmunds, on the body of the Rev. Rob:l2rrtthLEien:sita:inNl:taEßgte'u,re3B°.SALt.-4,
of Emanuel College, Cambridge, and a clergyman of the above
parish, who cut his threat in his bed-room the preceding day,
which ended in immediate death. Deceased hart long been in
an incoherent state of mind, fancying that his reason was de-
parting, making a vow in the church that he would not speak
to any one for two or three weeks, and standing before the altar
silent at times. He was thrown from his rse in Rocking
about thirteen )(cars ago, and received a violent kick on the
temple, since which sympt,nns of aberratiow had been constantly
occurring. The Jury returned a verdict of " Temporary In-
sanit7h.: rl Moniteur Parisian of Monday evening says

•' It appears to ba certain that the King will open the session
in pe.non oa the 26th inst." , ,

ANTI-CORN-LAW CONFERENCE.
(Continued froth. our Afternoon Echtion of yesterday.)
TO THE CItAIRDIAN• OF Tut .ANTI-CORN,LAW DEPUTIES
DiEETiNG,_ LONpiii4;
I beg to acknowledge thy letter without date ,in
reply to mine of the 4th inst., which did not -reach
me until the 20th instant. While stating the rea-
sons for my own conduct, it was far from my wish, in
the slightest degree, to interfere with or to obstruct your
labours, or even by implication to recommend that you
should violate your constitution. Timi alone can of
course prove how far I am right in my conclusion, that
the object you are so laudably and zealously labouring
to secure—the total and immediate abolition of the Corn
and Provision-laws—cannot be attained except by first
securing to the people a full, fair, and free representation
in the British House of Commons.
" Very sincerely and respectaillY,-
" JOSEPH STITIZGE.
" Birmingham, 7th month, 22d, 1842."

TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE ANTI-CORN-LAW CON-

FERENCE.
" Honoured Sir,—As there are so many Peel-ing ty-
rants who condemn the doctrines of the Conference, I
bare made free to send you two or three quotations from
the late Dr. Paley's ' Moral and Political Philosophy,'
to demonstrate that Archdeacon Paley, though • dead,
still pleads for the famishing millions, in language some-
what stronger than any member' Of he Cotiferened has
ever used. Natural rights,' says Paley, are a man's
right to his life, limbs, and liberty ; his right to the
produce of his personal labour.' A person is said to
have a right to a thing when it is consistent with the
will of God that he should have it.' Another right,
which may be called a general right, as it is incidental
to every man who is in a situation to claim it, is the right
of extreme necessity, by which is meant, a right to take,
when it is necessary for our own preservation to do so,
the first food,. clothes, or shelter, we meet with, when
we arc in danger of perishing through Want of thein.'
' Among men you see the ninety-and-nine toiling,
getting nothing for themselves all the while but a little
of the coarsest of the yrovisions which their own industry
produces, looking quietly on while they see the fruit of
all their labour spent or spoiled ; and if one of the num-
ber take or touch a particle of the hoard, the others join-
ing against him and hanging him for the thefa' 1(10 not
say that the above are my doctrines, or the doctrines of
the Conference, but I do say that they have more
truthit in them
many o
than e
01;
o gainsay.rsthis Go forward, dear Sir.
‘h your
great and
of Corn-law repeal. good work
• " W. .FERGSON.
" Bieester, Qxon, July 26, 1842. •
Mr. Alderman CHAPPEL said he wished to mention
one or two facts to the meeting. ~A number of gentle-
men had yesterday had an interview with Sir j.-Graham,
which had lasted upwards of two hours. Sir J. Graham
in the course of the conversation, strongly insisted on the
fact that ninety-one new factories bad been built since the
year 1837, as a proof that our manufactures had not
declined to the extent that many seemed to have sup-
posed. To that observation of Sir J. Graham he (Mr.
Alderman Chappel) replied that those ninety-one new
mills would not give employment to the increased
iNnber of our population in a single 'year. He would
allow 500 hands for each mill (and he was sure that
allowance was a large one), so that the ninety.-one mills
built iu foUr years, would give employment to no more
than 45,500 hands, while our population increased at the
rate of 400,000 a year.—(Hear, hear.) Lord Ripon, in
the course of the. interview with him, observed that
America could not grow corn for us, even if we were
willing to receive it. In reply to that statement, of his
Lordship, he (Mr: Alderman Chappel). had' said that all
the 'manufacturers of this country wanted vas that the
trial should be made. It was evident that the Improve-
ments in the agriculture of this country could not keep
pace with the increase in out population. They should,
therefore, look for supplies of food from other countries
upon terms advantageous to all parties.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. Alderman BROOKES, of Manchester. said that he
had been fur years in the habit of expressing his oppo-
sition to the Corn-laws ; and he remembered that some
time ago when he advocated a total repeal, lie was told by
many that he asked for too much, that he sho.old consent
to oCompromise with the landed interest, and be .satis-
tied 'with an Bs. or a lOs. fixed duty. But the very same
parties were now assuring hiin that even a total repeal of
the Corn-laws would not be sufficient to relieve the coun-
cry from the present depression of its trade. He would
eecommend every Mend of repeal to bury all party dif-
ferences, to bury the terms Whig and Tory.—(hear.)
What had political differences to do with their proced-
ings ? For his part, he did not care whether Sir
Peel or 'Lord J. Russell were in office, provided he could
obtain justice from either. If Sir R. Peel were the better
man to-day, he should suppOrt him ; and if Lord John
Russell were the better man to-morrow, he should have
his support,---(Hear, hear.) Yes, he was ready to slide
about, quicker even than Sir Robert Peel's slid-
ing scale.—(Loud cheers and laughter.) The aris-
tocracy, .he contended, were but the plunderers
of the people. They were increasing their own incomes
by 20 per cent., at the expense of a distressed and suf-
fering people. He believed.that this country could not
much longer. bear the oppressive weight ',o the Corn-
laws: He felt assured that they should be. repealed, or
suspended during the approaching itinter, He himself
had of late found his business in the home marltet ra-
pidly declining, and he had been thus obliged to export
mime largely to foreign countries. But still he had been
compelled of late to glue hig man but four days' employ-
ment in the week. He found that there had been 3,000
bags of cotton less consumed last year in this dotintry
titan during the year before. It was his conviction that
if the Corn-laws were not speedily repealed they would
ruin the trade of the country We could not do without
a foreign trade—(lleac, hear)-,alid since we could not
do without it, the want of it would ruin tiglaild, •It •
was not the corn monopoly alone they had to complain.
of ; there were also monopolies of sugar, coffee, and
various other articles. The monopoly in sugar especially
was monstrous. If no dutt were imposed on foreign
sugar it could be sold here for 41d. per lb. in the docks,
and for sd. per lb. to the consumer. But it was said
chat it was necessary to protect the West India interest.
,They might, however, depend upon it, as had been said
'-by. Colonel Thompson long since, that protecting one
party merely meant robbing another.—(Hear, hear.)
And when it was said that the West India planters were
protected, it was another way of saying that the public
were robbed. for their benefit.—(Hear, hear.) A duty of
25 percent. was imposed on our goods in the'Brazils,
while we impOsed a duty of 392 per cent. on their sugar.
It was alleged, however, that it was not desirable to
admit Brazilian sugar at a low duty into this country,
lest we should thereby offer an encouragement to slavery.
Now, he wad no advocate for slavery; but he verily ,be-
lieved that the negroes of the Brazils were better off-than
many of our unfortunate people. Ile. was convinced that
if the extent and the depth of the .national 'distress were
fully known to her Majesty's. Ministers, they could not
be aware of it without trying at once every possible means
for its removal. If the Devil was in them they could hot
.stand it.—(Laughter.) He really believed that Sir Ro-
bert Peel would repeal the Corn laws at once, if he
found that in doing so he would be supported by his
party. The new Corn law, lie was persuaded, was
not in any way more favourable to the consumer
dine the old one. The present measure was more strin-
gent in its operation than the preceding one and be had
been told by many speculators that if the law had not
been altered, we should now have foreign corn intro-
duced at a duty of is. 'Attend of Bs.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. AsilWoittit nest adtifemd the meeting, and pro-
ceded- to • detail the interviews which WA pleoe with
Lord Stanley, Lord •Wharncliffe, and Sir J. Graham,
and whieli were given in Time Sun of yesterday. The
Hon. Otintlethati commented upon the different observa-
tions which had been made by these Ministers, and
dwelt upon
.the satisfactory manner hi which they were
met by the different metnbers who composed the deputa-
tion. The lion. Gentleman then went on to state td the
meeting the result of the interviews with Lord Ripon
The distress of the country and the
apnrodiAitlirt:iolladt
tttt'
' svO•e eAlliblitA in the clearest light,
but nothing was done. They wighd to go to the House
of Commons to attend to their duties. He tMr. A.)
told theM their first duty ought to be to re,ieve the
distres of the cdttritey: ; I
Dr. .11oqutso tiled atinfeesed the 'meeting, and
said tildt 14r6sbili iStisitiyit flie Hotts,e a Com-
mons was to be attributes {holt Witt weree
electors than to those who were elected.—(ifetifi ii4'a)o
It was there the fault lay. Nothing had been left un-
ion° ori tif the deputies to impress upon the
Government the real edilditiatt of the country, and the
proper remedy to be applied; They did every thing in
their power, disragetdingtht tf oWn Personal interests
and cot venience, to impress upon thOti *lad occupied
high plaCes a proper sense of the position of the cdiffitit
and they had some ohiportunity of seeing the extent of
le per:sobs astray
he inipfeisititliliti) titcidue,edi They had conversed
with thoze who were considered the blot' distinguished
and eloquent speakers of the House of Owytmcifii anti
feat, front the silent Members.
litt even
had inost to tee
they saw lid*. desirdini they vt'cr.o td Jake advantage' df
fteveryriioousle iiegerlte
great
nie.oextnatt7oleivireaesrsttliooanna,s
awatbdiosutshlunefi7.ey
said . b Wald/ 1111 rtigetabl those
victims in Constantinople who wcie,qteliiiped by set
firtolmv s . hya_ dar..4.2d, stojti.6b..
mutes.—(Hear,. hear.) Their perehtioti hty
their doori at • the tliors of men, too, who
fet.et•Atted t4lfrerbig ttricts, anti who,
one would hate NtiPretS" ougit to have found
a voice though their hearts had tr which he (Dr. B,)ait made of stone or
steel.—(Cheers.) ,The party with
acted; had been accused of misrepresenting the state of
the edunt4 for selfish ends. They were told. that there
was
every, pr„pett of a ilne haiyest, nd that thin cr
were
isis
would pass away. These
made to the were the anaswers which M
in the House of Commons and the depu-

u,musta ss, t adtier -eto t
et
dile people p 1
oi:!tihne r
they were in that Ho%uvsaes,
sus-
tained.—(Ileac, theTchaet;semourstril°lle:pratinY
he country how weal;
tial u►der
...... what(li
e a.r, expedientsh ear.)
that no
eloqucnee--that .no argumentation had any effect, and
he believed that if prophets or archangels themselves
were to appeal', they would not be heared in the present
House a tiatntrions, which had no sympathies in com-
mon with the people. What then had they to hope' on
He believed that nothing less than that hunger which
was said could break down stone walla, would be able to
penetrate the I-louse of Commons. They could not re-
main hi their pre-sent state, The light must penetrate
at length,
,tind the clarliness must be expelled.—(Hear,
Because they had no oppor-
hear,) Ile was acquainted with a country which was for-
merly, and still continued to be, a land of abundance, he
mwtetialitttofEcgoyrpat.. -Ilscchtyll?e. saw . that land suffering from
purposes. . : Corn
tunity of disposing of.
.their surplus prodtice, and
tellse, "ctilaepifittailllof waeglirticlull°tffiuree4
in Egypt was -at present from
265. to 28s. a quarter, but it could not be imported to
this country in consequence of the Corn-laws.(Cheers.)
The province of Tamboff had, of late, acquired remark-
able notoriety from the quantity of corn it was ,said to
produce---(Latighter)---but he was told•last' night by a
gentleman in the House of Commons that Tam toff was
sometimes is want of corn itself, and was obliged to be

supplied from other provinces.—(Hear, 'hear.) He had I
great hopes from the perseverance and industry of the
English people. He believed there was no part of the
world which did not owe many of its comforts to the in-
dustry of the English natiOn.--.(Hear; heat'.) Of such a
people, possessed of such energies, he had great hopes
but when he saw their interests neglected by the House
of Commons, and that it did not respond to the wants of
the people, he confessed he felt apprehensions to which
he•would scarcely dare to give expression.—Cheers.
In reply to a question from Mr. EDWARDS,
Dr. Bownnta said, that the greater portion of the
supplies were voted, and that it was generally expected
the HOOSO would be prorogued this day fortnight. .
Mr. EDWARDS said that, in that case, he
would move an Address to the Crown, before
the Conference separated. He had no doubt
that if the people were unanim,.u.;, as they were when the
ship-money was demanded, that nothing would be able to
withstand thetn.—(Hear.)
.Dr. BOWRING remarked, that when the ship-money
was sought to be enforced, the House of Commons had
then reposed on the feelings of the entire English peo-
ple. At present there was not such a feeling in Eng-
land. When he was requested to take extreme mea-
sures and stop the supplies, he asked of those who so
requested him, whether they were ripe for such a mea-
sure, and the reply was that they were not, but that
they were ripening.—(Cheers.)
Mr. RAWSON here read to the meeting the speech
which he addressed to Sir James Graham on the &wen-
,ion of the late deputation from the distressed manufac-
turers and merchants to the Bight Hon. Baronet.
Mr. WILKES, of Leicester, who had addressed the
Conference a few weeks ago, declared that trade was
worse, and distress greater. He contemplated with the
leepest alarm the approach of winter, if there were not
some relief to trade, from the repeal ofthe Corn-laws and
the removal of the restrictions upon comtnerce.—(Hear )•
Mr. Brookes had told the meeting that the landlords
were " robbers."—(Hear, hear.) But., about his neigh-
bourhood, the people called them murderers--(Hear)—
and said that the blood of the starved poor was on their
,reads.—(Hear, hear.) Those things were openly said.—
(Hear, hear.) He hoped that there would be in his
county, Leicester, and in every county in England, an
et.tablished " county lectureship," to inculcate, from day
to-day, upon the minds of the people, the evils of the
Corn-law and the necessity of repealing them.—(Hear.)
The meeting then adjourned till 11 o'cloCk to-day.