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(YESTERDA Y.)

GROUP FF.
Z)IITBtrRGH AND NORTHERN LINE.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
atlit Bateman, another civil engineer, corroborated the testimony
%the last witness. He considered the ferry as a great impediment
lts.7e tile Safe and easy working of the line. The branch to Lochgelly
11ertainly not calculated to accommodate all the coal-fields of
-It district.
cross.examination, he said he had been sent over by the
`tetisferry Company, of which he had the entire management.
th:IL George Rennie, the civil engineer, was well acquainted with
blirlroute of the line, and believed the evidence of the preceding
it.eeses Was perfectly correct.
oth`r• George Gunn, a civil engineer and a marine surveyor, and
7: Witnesses, gave corroborative testimony.
ah;ir• Mitchell, a civil engineer, thought a railway with only a
Mho line of way could not accommodate the through traffic be_
*fit Edinburgh and Perth. The majority of the through traffic
r
lktb). way Queensferry, and by way of Burntisland.
he Williams, mining engineer to the Earl of Zetland, said the
slist,Md not accommodate the most important coal-fields of the
the et through which it passed. It would certainly pass through
Ml-fields of Fife, but they were of an inferior quality.
the l ast °4ll, a coal proprietor of Cluny, confirmed the testiony
witness, and the Comm tee adjourned till to-morrowm.

GROUP t_iu.
The
C ZASGONAT JUNCTION RAILWAY.
ts' Committee, consisting of Mr. Evans (Chairman), Mr. Newde_
;mod twr• Muntz, Mr. Miles, and Viscount Grimston, sat this day,
_v.ve o'clock, in the Sessions.house, Westminster, and is
with the cross-examination of Mr. Miller, the civil en.
on the above line.
tidne witness was severely cross-examined as to the minute de-
li,'" of the line, the of • h item, the quantity of tunnels,
tenn4,.. cost
%bee_ r of viaduct, the particular gradients on the whole dis.
tat par't7nd What particular property would be altogether de,troyed
dice 14;11Y injured. The whole was a mere repetition of the evi-
ttat Thlu'vre.,,n by Mr. Miller in his examination in chief during
—aY and Friday's proceedings. The cost of construe-
putablint calculating damages to property, &c., would be in round
rs about 75,0001.
44.4; Gibb, civil engineer, had been in partnership with his father
anY Years, and had now contracted for about 200 miles of
ich rail WaYB, and he considered the estimates of this line amply
44_11 ett for its construction. He would accept the works for the
nt given in the estimates.
Mr. Mitchell and Mr. Lyon gave precisely similar evidence.
trtinel had not examined the plans and sections, but he
hs'elieeno difficulty in the formation or working of these tunnels,
thought it was an absurdity to question the safety of them.
tiltin;) "'afloat), Governor of the Towns' Hospital, said that the
*hid, Passed beneath the hospital through a stratum of sandstone,
tki4- *4 a good conductor of sounds. and he had never heard the
of the trains passing through.
Thomas Leadbctter put in and proved the estimate ofdamage
the land and other property by the railway. The amount
Tae 96,000 L
e Committee adjourned at four o'clock.

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GROUP K.
ItOILVTICH AND BRANDON LINE.
b.. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
Of was then given of the accuracy of the traffic and distance
shat the feasibility of raising the capital by the issue of 10,800
404'4,4 other technical matters, and the preamble of the Lynn
'ast
tth Dereham line through Swaffharn was passed.
aut Clause which authorises the Company to pay interest at the
i.4.4041..P.e,., cent on the amount of subscription paid up being read,
:lo tt e regarding the principle f the power objectionable,
tancede it only on the condition that if on their repre.
ht: the House of Commons a concurrent opinion
thluotre.,, ' the Bill should be recommitted. The agents for the
dap it
atiert, rather than be liable to a contingency which would
*hie 71 4
`enormous expense, preferred the withdrawal of the
- oth.r
was accoriny done.
clauses were subsequently discussed, and pasted 21,with-
%try.
alb a —"latee then proceeded to the consideration of the
A.._
ATTLEBOROUGII BRANCH Or
RVIICH AND BRANDON LINE.
raySa.
—uel Farrow examined by Mr. GIRDEN—Was some
oter. 'lee .
b.:Nte..._ hasher-merchant at Dies, but owing to the. difficulty
le tn''ce by the present slow and expensive transit, he was
rs at "De°%Pete with tne tradesmen of Ipswich. The price of
pri4;_*ich, 365. per ton, 12s. of which is paid for carriage from
—•ce of ""ile at Yarmouth the cost is materially less, and the
kellY ke°°veYance proportionably so.
14,4 t• Th. "OEN—The meeting was not convened by advertise.
p,ettr Opinion of the inhabitants of Dim is decidedly in
'eject nf. 'ne Diss and Attleborough Branch, rather than the
h.kr the Eastern
.Counties Extension.. .
`Ala.
*I 4Chapl examined—ls an extensive miller, residing at
0 and thenff 300 quarters of wheat and barley per week to Ips.
e, if not sold, to Liverpool, at a cost of 7s. a quarter.
114 ant of
...Nbie a rapid communication prevents his sending any con.
Ztlag qua
of flour. Last year he paid 1,5081. for the land
kae rage
of
the shipping subsequently entailing a large in-
- layi,„„ Proposed Diss and Attleborough branch would effect
°f 6s
-,,skeza quarter in the transit of produce.
toh*erpe,4
_Tined by Mr. WHATELEY, Q.C.--From Ipswich to
Tile arid thraitl at this season of the year is conveyed at Is. a
hic.,t4tero Prl!e between Diss and Ipswich is 2s. or 3s. a quarter.
Enron Extension line would not be a readier commu.
tte,,x4tan
;Norwich than the Diss and Attleborough branch.
sh. tarive„. In" by Mr. ANDREWS, Q.C.—lt costs him 7s. a quarter
jay krAcE wheat, and 6s. for malt, to Liverpool.
zit1.311,41:1"N--The price of 7s. a quarter is made up by. com.
ee ho„ gage, dues, &c. The average time to Newcastle is two
tir.
ue
tettin , examined by Mr. GIRDEN—IS an ironmonger at
s g his wares from Birmingham via Ipswich and Yen.
thrttn.„l'ortaer °RhaThuPP°2l°6 the
invaluable acy had a comcommodation would b e amunication between Diss and
m he Most ft.rcied
thr, Pig iron is now obtained from Scotland, and reaches
etadal
CosaUgh Yarmouth
eatnined
3' ti„, . Mr. WRATELEY, Q C.—Now one-fifth of the
treviotis
.tT, at Diss is procured from Ipswich.
tit7bsei, the separation of the Committee it was agreed by
Wi„.. Present to.morrow a tabular account of the popula.
tt 'n2,l three miles of the towns. It was also announced
bkt..?l' Wthtelteuley, ne.
C., that the opposition of the only resisting
co ry and Cambridge line had been withdrawn.
ulallttee adjourned at four o'clock.

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'lt°o7.l AND MANCHESTER EXTEN-
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ood SION.
Illy 'We nB, the engineer of the Liverpool and Manchester line,
be confirmatory of Mr. Lowndes' statement on Satur-
"Nti aPPeared in our paper of that day. At the close of this
to7lton-`itea llt BELLI,SIS said he appeared for Lord Francis
lab.d several landowners along the line, and also
an Manchester Company. Th obj"
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k' of the Liverpool and Buryßailway line were to extend corn-
e
theto
Of between those towns and that of Bolton, but the real
Vter en‘ithe promoters were, first, to compete with the Man.
Stialtlte ,7‘, Liverpool Railway, and, secondly, to deprive it of
no be great towns of Yorkshire. He hoped the project
teoavo;° favour with the Committee, and that the Legislature
44 orth: !triking
411,4 so heavy a blow against that which was the pa-
' 111:4, • tot", system in this country. He did not deny that the
i'toksed":inication between Liverpool and the towns at which
lleNatne,„,ne would touch was at present imperfect, and re-
ofdel:!llent. He did not deny that there was at present a good
; re-
delay lib the transference of goods, particularly at the Button
tlieTtten,uwt he Liverpool and Manchester Railway, which he re.
t Drje, would propose a far more eligible :communication than
ted
NON by the promoters of this Bill. The Learned
ern on to
etv, ‘'etty r„._ say that the witnesses upon the other side
411 th_'""gerated the traffic and passenger communication
;44' the
_ar to.
c , and he would produce evidence to show
lair,. calations
tided, ; Monathe other side were utterly erroneous
4 If, 411°,:ne cases the amount being doubled, in others
*et wlaliY, indeed,quadrupled, and in not a few cases
e pourv, ,
• es ti.e."4 to have " vlog left the place where thousands of tons
olt, „la Low ‘, been transhipped. The line which he proposed
to est°ft, on the Bolton and Preston line, three miles
;hitt tpr .
.eatOqVtioit°iti‘.ll e Manchester and Liverpool line at Newton
h trial to state that this line would be carried
t ltet .Y the Manchester and Liverpool Railway,
,4444.°Posed With the sanction of Parliament. The line
WoUld Pass through some of the richest coal.
'4474 aud' w •
to -hat - favour as surprised at the Board of Tra e for
14,thetn. report
been
the Liverpool and Bury line, and made
The 'Au been founded on misrepresentations made
Oish abd ..raenPort set forth that the resources of the
sod
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aschester line were all engaged in the
_w not the fact. There were only four subscri.
11.11sh_17. hoe.
five from Bolton in favour of the Liverpool
Zle ti* ea in
LL:to sningle shareholder in Liverpool had bought
ee,e,verpon; Zidfl_e than all the inhabitants of Bolton together.
Tae coup :rY line was a crude, hasty, and imperfect
Vtiott'oeLive have originated in the present speculative •ith `s, or care tPo.oleand Manchester line would be on a level with
{Nand ere,.
ee,, b. 'oro hung terminus of the other would be forty feet
44'44 ,Co tlitZted yards frem the docks. The stations pro-
uktt,ltiodatet! were far inore comprehensive, and they
te‘.4
,7les
thinknitinitelY more persons than the other. The
but e other side were altogether wrong, and he
Otetki '4O44elutioilir. the Board of Trade must have come
6b,. tone q Liver_ the
these erroneous figures. The Man.
44;4' t° an ex Railway had already done much—they
tH,‘Od exPense f
mith Live „ 13 250,0001. to join the Men_
Re).•11 e had la, m-allway with the Leeds Railway. The
/6.; d before them he would prove by witnesses.
ill kotttp Pliny thaw was
, and h agent to the Bolton and Leigh Rail.
Mil:t tab! ad been so for sixteen years. Had examined
Pilth° se" to the Board of Trade by the pro_ e bet "Pool and .
B , Bury line, and found them, incorrect.
• Q't°4 414 Liverpool was stated bl them to be
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GROUP A.
2.4114731°1Vg CHATMIDT, ANSD NORTH RENT

LINE.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
All of those witnesses expressed strong opinions in preference of
lie South-Eastern to the North. Kent line.
Mr. MERREWETHER then called
jar"' Russell, foreman to Mr. E. Smith, a paper maker, at
Sittingbourne, who stated that the proposed line passed within fifty
lards of the factory of his employer. The witness then entered
In to the details of injury likely to be done to Mr. Smith's business
07 the passing of steam-engines near the mills.
tMr. ALYZaNnett then stated the case of Sir John Fagg, who is a
'clowner at Chilham, and called several witnesses to prove that land would be crossed by the proposed line, being already crossed
by the Ashford and Canterbury.
_Mr. MEREEWETHER then went through the case of several
ether petitioners and called several witnesses on their behalf.
Mr. WORLEDOE then addressed the Committee on behalf of Mr.
LIAM, ilton, a landowner and a petitioner, against the Bill, and
Called several witnesses to prove the value of two fields, the
Property of /qr.
Hamilton, through which the proposed line
siuroldunPdass, and also to prove the injury which would be done to
g building ground by the embankment of the railway,
hic in
ft would be thirty feet high.
a M. r. Boni. referred to the case of the inhabitants of Feversham,
i„icinient
her
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suit
ten
nednthat their opposition might be permitted to proceed,
dtiraxit tt,)t,/e inhabitants of every place through which
W
Itwere not • pass had a right to oppose the line, though
sandowners.
hid ti;;Setereitnt SHEA objected on the ground that the inhabitants
and :Wore right to oppose the line than the public in general,
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c the., 'chat the opposition was got up by the South-Eastern Company,
11 Purpose of delaying the proceedings.
e Committee decided against hearing the case.
mit• a,
,martezwErnett then opened the case on the part of the
—~"1-Eastern line and, on the ground that he was not sufficiently
''.9trainted with the intentions of the Croydon Railway Company
to
the'y on a part of his case, which would be directed against
requested that several charges respecting the atmospheric
should be answered by the Croydon Company.
'lr MELLOR, on the part of the Croydon Railway Company,
.tett to giving the answers required, but after a short discussion
▪ •vetl to take time to consider.
theMr• MERREWETHER then proceeded with the case on the part of
S•
outh-Eastern Railway Company, and called witnesses to prove
gong
against the Chatham and North Kent line, and in favour
th
oouth-tastern line, at' Woolwich, and to prove the supe-
• "tY of the North Eastern. 'The principal objection to the North
lent
line was the distance of the intended terminus from the town
oolivich which it was said would render it perfectly useless, consideration of this part of the case occupied the Corn
blittee
to the hour of adjournment. p