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London, England, 1820-07-26 00:00:00

IRISH CHANCERY BILL.

Mr. C, GRANT said, that as some material al-
terations had been made in this Bill in its pro-
gress through the other House, and a very large
part of the Bill struck out altogether, he should
propose that the further consideration of this
measure be postponed till after the adjournment.
Agreed to.
Mr. LENNARD moved for a return of the num-
ber of causes tried in the County Court of Mid-
dlesex in the last ten years, and the amount, of
fees and. costs for the same .period, specifying
what portion was received by the Comity Clerk,
together with an account of: the balances in the
hands of ,the County Clerk, or, Registrar, from
24th January to '2sth Decetnber.—OrdeFed.

Lord A. HAmivroN said, he understood the
Irish Court of Chancery Bill had been disposed
of in his absence. He had -entered the House
before four 'o'clock, and as that was the hour
fixed for-the commencement of public business,
Fie was somewhat surprised to find that a question
upon which he felt a very strong impression was
already disposed of. -
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
that when all the private business was disposed
of it was the practice of the House to proceed
immediately to the public business.
A conversation ensued betwperi Lord Castle-
reagh-, Mr. Tierney, and the Chancellor of
Exchequer, and it was finally arranged that the
"louse should meet to-morrow at two o'clock.

LIBEL UPON THE Qi'EP-N•
Mr. WtTHERELI. xose to • call the attention of
the House to a' gross ntterapt which he had no-
ticed the preceding day, as having been made on
the character "of an Illustrious Personage, .by
Provincial Newspaper called the Western Lumi-
nary. The object of his calling upon Parliament
for its interference' in the case was, that whilst
proceedings were pending which might lead to a
Bill of Pains and Penalties, the accused might
be afforded the 'same protection -against libels,
that would be afforded in ordinary cases be-
fore ordinary tribunals. In any of the ordinary
tribunals, it was well known that ' -what-
.ever had a tendency to obstruct the course
of their proceedings, was by common law
an offence. It so happened, however, that ally
motion connected with the present case' would be
an anomaly ; as there was no instance.of Parlia-
nicht taking notice of -a libel on an accused person
who was the object of a Legislative proceeding
before Parlianieirt. There existed, there-fore, no
ttheec t
ei nxge
precedent-for then} to be guided by ; but he ap-
prehended that it was the duty of that house to
interfere in the present instance, as much for tije
the
put individual, as to secure
of a free opinion on
the case. The question, as it appeared to him
was, whether it 1.4 s not he-duty of- Parlialnent
utrhpeornsese ory es or

-to afford the same protection as the Common Law
of the land afforded :to all delinquents who were
rub judice in civil, crintinal,•ana ordinary Cottrts.
This question being, as he had stated, entirely-
a new one, it was not for him to recommend -to
the House the course it ought Co pursue ;. he
should coritenehintself with stating his own hum-
ble opinion. He distrusted himself too much to
go ,a greater length than this, but after be bad
taken the matter in hand he had done. his bett
to elucidate it. . He had - given the subject ilis
best consideration, and he confessed he felt a
strong inclination to think that it ought to. be
considered in the light of a breach of the Privi-
leges of Parliament. The Hon. and Learned
Gentleman then proceeded to detail the whole
course of the proceedings which had taken place
in Parliament with respect,to the .Queen. That
House had authorised the searching of the Jour-
nals of the Lords, the- result of which was, that
the Report of a Committee of the other.. House
pledging that licrale to a • judicial inquiry wlk..
now. on the table of the House of Commons.
This, in his opinion, was proof' that--they'had
recognised the existence of the inquiry. It shoW--;
ed that there. Was a pending inquiry in .Parlia-
ment which that House had not abandoned, tilt
only suspended: They were pledged to no-
thing—they had committed themselves to. nothing,
but there was that before the- House, which
showed them. that there was in, ,else an 'in-
quiry going on in Parliament. The question,
according to this argument, then, was, whether
that class of delinquents which were only cogni-
sable .by Parliament were not ,to . receive that
protection from .Parliament which all delinquents
received from ordinary tribunals. Were. they to
-suffer an accused to be run down by pamphlets
out of doors, every one of which, in ordinary,
cases, would be made the subject of proSectition?
With respect to the offence itself, he thOght
there could be no doubt that it was One of 7.a,
most heinous nature ; and if the House were un-.
willing to make a precedent of it, he should pro-
pose that an instruction be given to the .Lain .
Officer of-the Crown to lake the matter in hand.
In the opinion of all the greatest and most en-
lightened judicial characters the country had
ever produced, the calling a person under,trialta
criminal, or attempting in any way to prejudice,
his case-, was looked upon as one of the greatett
attempts to prevent the -course of justice knoWn
to the law. The writer in question in the pre-
sent case, had not only attempted to create pre-
judice against the'Queen of England, now on her
trial, but had actually convicted her by entiiipa-
'tion.:.. He 'said that if she was found: on the
pavement; she would 'be sent to Bridewell anil
whipped. This was the way he spoke of an in-
dividual who had -already received. the. Add-reis
of that House, and respecting whose conduct the.
House of Lords had pronounced that a solemn
inquiry should be instituted. It was a case
-loudly calling for protection—it was an offi nce
totally, involving the breach of every sentiment
of Christianity. The Learned Gentleman quoted
a variety of cases -which had occurred in the or-
dinary Courts of Justice, in which the interfe-
rence of the Judges had been :exercised iu pro-
, tection of the accused against attempts made' to
prejudice- their case out of Court. The essence
of the offence of this writer. consisted in bran&.
ins with criminality-a delinquent, not convicted
nor tried... He would leave-it to - the ,House,at
large-to determine whether they would allow the
Queen 'of England' to be exposed to those' omit-
rages, from' which the meanest individual in' the
country, in the lowest. Court, would be protectdd.
Under these circumstances, if the House should
think that a breach of privilege had beery corn-
milted, he should move that the offence be made
the subject of a prosecution at Common Lam-.
He should conclude, therefore, by moving that it
is the opinion of the I-louse that the Publisher. of
the Western Luminary has been guilty of a
breach of privilege. He. should conclude by
moving that the .. Paper:be .laid upon the-Table ;
ant V-that the . Aktorney-General :be direetetyo
-prosecute Mr,:.Flyndell,.- the .Editor . of . -he
Western Lumina( ,y,..!

f

The SPEAIfEit-suid; the irouse must underOand
.whether the Hon. 4,0 Learned Member 'offered
the Paper as a 'breath- of privilege,• or itt what
shape he offered it ? •

:11Ir. id, he. should firsCmove
thatit was a Wach Of; privilege.
The Ilon. and Learned Gentle Man fia,;Ping,
at the Speake's-suggef..tion, scored sunder- the
part which he complained of as a brealii of pai
vilege, •
The CLERK then i•ead. as follows ;Shall the
who is as 4otoriOusfj,- devoted to. Bat dyno,
Venus,—one, who. if found in 't he streets would_ -
be whipped and sent to BFicie.,,y4l-4e 404 Iv iu
the light of .su.,ffering innocence l';
Mr; WET:Iii4I4L wi:hed that the whole )ettet
,should be read, h order that ;Ihe • contlepftion
of b ar 'part with. the whole ,Should.
be‘ tseaetn.P°4.*O . .

The CLERK accordingly read the letter Porn
the beginning, and continued .reading until iqtßl-
rupted by
Mr. Ti FR NEf who observed, that be tb"ovsght
enough had been heardatfovrcesonepnitepteledifzcarit:cpuallri
paE„sage alluded to with her Majesty the QIN it.
Mr. WITTIFFRELL. then moved that it be 'a Re-
_solution of this flouse, " it appearifig to
them that the Inquiry
liaMent rni§,-bt become tbe 'subject of a 43i41 of
Pains- and Pemalties, or other proceeding.s: in
that hiuse3 o th.at paper) under the circtunstatxces
. ,

of the4iie, was a breach of the privileges of the
House."
Mr.' M. CROLMONDELtY seconded the motion.
Ile hoped the Hoak • Would put such a mark on
the. flagrant interference with th.e Course of their
proceeding, as would serve to deter other parts
Of the licentious press from following the ex-
ample. • •
Locd.C.4...sTLEßEarisit said -he -conceived- there
- could not exist two opinions as to the nature of
:The 'publication which had been. brought under
-their. attention that evening ;.,and whatever ob-
' • ~serNation he might have to make to the House on
' •- the course he thought ought to ,be pursued on the
•-occasion„:.he trusted . nO one- would be induced
-• tto think that anyone felt more indignation than
• ,he did at the attempt which had been made to
• -prejudice a case at-present pena?ng in - the ordi,
'nary course of justice.-7(11-ear, hear, hear
AS' to the publication in question being a libel no
;one could • entertain a doubt; and the only ch.-
: cnmstance for their consideration was, whether
~any and what proceedingS should be taken by
that-116use with respect to it ; and whether that
, pointed out by the Honourable and. Learned
•Gentlethan was the proper one ? And'he must
:here observe, that• because the House was about
ota rise, Which required- that immediate applica-
tion, if,any, should be made to it on the subject,
-that there were no other means of dealing with
• it:. lie understood the case 'had excited the
.atteistion:of the .Xttorney-General : but, if in
the conflict. of libels, his Hon. and, Learned-
...Friend'should not have it- in his power to put-1
this down, and even if the Attorney-General had
•• :mot thought proper to- follow the individual in
• question,:he begged to'remind the lion. Member.
.-that there were other Means fully adequate to
meet thecase. He would not go in:o the nicety
;of the Hon: Gentleman's argument, that because
the Bill pending in the other House might come
down to them, therefore that House was.identi-
.fied'iwith. the -.Lords_ -in the proceeding. He
• -wished fully to be understood, as neither vindi-
cating nor calling upon the House to pass over
this flagrant offence. But. he thought the Learned
, Gentleman; by taking this step, had placed the
House in. a painful situation ; and he must
• say, that he did think the Learned Member,
- when he made up his mind to call for the inter-
' ference of Parliathent in this case, might have
cast his eyes round to see if there were not other
places
,equally fit, and more convenient to take
notice of it. He. thought, that if he was in the
• habit of reading the ordinary prints of the day,
he might have found more than one—or indeed,
. he would•ask him to name one day on which ate'
had.seen the Prints of this ;Country, and had not
. found in them libels of as .flagrant, a nature,
and of as dangerous a moral tendency; as the
one he had brought forward.—(Hear, hear,
hear!)—lie could- not .understand how the
Honourable and Learned. Member could sit by
• and see the evidences libelled that Were to be ad-
duced on the present case—their lives menaced,
• and snobs raised in tbe. country by these writings,
and yet be content to take up. one, and leave all
the OtherS. The House should act'vvith even hand :
and he.mustt protest. against one interested being
made 'the sole object of their protection, whilst
• the Others were :left unheeded, though- equally
requiring it. Even the Court itself was run down
. and .the witnesses who. were under. its protection
were pointed out as fit. objects for. assassination:
• (Hear !)---He could have wished that this case,
• with the others of a similar nature had been left
to be dealt with by the Officers of
,the Crown
and of her Majesty': could have wished that
- their labours for •the Session had been closed
• without their attention being called to the-dis-
• gusting spectacle of the press of this country—
one' which was in such a state of- baseness and
' degradation, as was disgraceful to be tolerated
in, any civilized nation.. If the Learned Gentle-
' . tnan•whose motion was before the House,: had
performed this diity a little more diligently and
• equitably, he would have found in some of -the
Papers, libels Of -a more direct nature than that
'he had brought forward. He need not have used
very extraordinary diligence to' have found the
• jurisprudence of Parliament attacked in the
grossest manner. Since this matter had
.been
be-
fore the House he-(Lord.C.) had paid more than
ordinary attention to the subject ; and in proceed-
ing to. point out to the House some of the glaring
instances of licentiousneSs Which had occurred in
the course• of his examination, he should merely
premiSe • by saying, that if Parliament: should
;think. proper to vindicate one' party, it Was their
duty to -Vindicate 411. -He -should not make any
fOrmal complaint
.on that occasion, being nierfly
of pointu. ig out: deep 'wound whiCh
.
iiiaiinflictect:by•the liCeittiousness of the press,
and which wad one lamentable proof of the dis-
'l.grace'which it bad brought 'on itself, The Noble.
Lord'then quoted, from' the last number of the-
.loaiiiiiier) the following' passage
• . is what -a
true Rouse of Cainj would hive done;
• • kit-when-that House is fur the main part composed of venal
borough-mongers, grasping placemen, :greedy adventOrers,
..and aspiring :title hunicis---or the representatives of such
' thies-a body, in short, containing a far greater por tint'
of Publicr
Criminals than of PubfieGuardialts, what call be ex-
Ve4terbfrom it ?'• • ' •
Ag;the •Jion. and •Leitn'ed .Gentleman- (Mr.
Wetherern .thought thaV:that House having
the, Lords'. Journal§ beeinie bound_ to
ptotect that.Tlouse, he thought he Might also ex--
-•tend:his protection to -Atm.:House of Commons.-
. .
•
..trpotkloOking,a:li(tle 'fartlier, he would' find so
lad, the. inst. ••• ,•
called -the- Re..
•
the following: gross libel upon Parlia-
ment and the Soyf,reigA,,v4.:— -
we have very Divorce Bill will he
such a Pirliameitt'.•as",:the .preserit, • because we
•liiiow,:and hare seen, they' are sufficiently, protii;4iee end
aot Against-the ele-rest I.!sti!ttony of innocence-and
nght ,Millthis will meter nothing; the King and-Partia-
' -nienrinnst Wire off therdisgrae which has so long hung about
• th'emselves _before they can disgrace Ow Queen; the public
mind. The more she suffers, the more will; she tie endeared
twthe ;Salim): There neves.was4tt England4,lonitrch.ntore
• , !_ suspected and despised, nor a Parliament more: notormpsly
Pinaigato than' at present, teas it not that they ltnid'• the
of The nation, thry would be kicked 0nt:v1.431
•.102VAii fir k few hOuts, audjitidy swept out of, t)ie country..
. Preiint limit; doom and the herald approaching
': •will+•...frostiee'iti)slto'githet-gtit nflthr.'questiOn
the 14nirtn is in, sbe tried by. bribed: And ..p.artitt;, jtudhCc, •
eretYpnin of whom is in inine .nieasure ilependinrott her
prearensor, and the evidenteagiiiirit her i 1 ilhart paid fur in
diVi!tiO to its strength. On pj gials-or this hind, gold

it a .most po-tk•Nfitt,Milenee, anti 1I t aiici.n hat no g,;)ld
tit-
her comniand to support her. Inn•axiiees cutiiiige, and
honesty forms fiir her the. only harrier ugainst theinilu-
ence efaiiiiltinti of money, Hu could purchase: her
condemnation." _ _

.....
In this way was this august Tribanal handled.
In,,another number, speaking on the same subject,
this PUer says :
," Thus ►t was,with her Majesty's Counsel, they were con-
tinually interrupted by one Lord remp•ritt or ,Viritual or
the other, so that any effort they could have made iu the be-
half of her Majesty, was destroyed Ily the "Hock wilts of this
HouSe of Lords. It is 'really nauseous to hear those old
jades talking about justice and purity, it is just as if the in-
mates of a. toot should quarrel amongst themselves which
was the most virtuous, and complain of a departure from the
paths of virtue and morality." • •

" The 'louse of Lords, as more veteran in profligacy,. has
laid what little sense of shame it; might bare possessed upon
the shelf, and is alpnit to proceed naked, and without further
sitation: We rejoice at it, because it is now about tu exhi-
bit iiselt in that character to the woild Which it has lately
practised insidiously. The corrurtion of the Parliament will
nt.future he nut only seen as the Sun at noon day, but will lie
top glaring to be clouded or shaded by any matter, however
den:e."

" The earth has groaned under the cm se of Monarchical
Goreintnents much tr.) long. Civilization haS struggled
against it almost in 'vain ; and Nam c•herself seemed almost
to despair of- shaking it off. But the monarchical form of
governmenit is•like every other_vices it will destroy itself in
be course of time, even if no opposition be made to it.
%ices of the English Monarchy are evidently precipitating it
to a crisis_aml a dow.ifilii,"
The Noble Lord then read the following ex-
tract, .
relating to the conviction of Carlik.:—
.•
•• lad 1 ti vett in Greco:, or in Rome, with my present dis-
position, 1 should have been put to death fur want of a due
respect to the " Isimmerst. (ions." . Such as they were taught
to believe their .telpher, satutn, Mars, Apollo, Baechus,.aud
others to he, and no doubt, but that the moll moral and pious
turn in those days held a sincere belief .of Ikeir existence and
intmortalty. The common sect !nation of the word blas-
phemy has been, in Greece and in' Panne, a cursing- or evil
sptil-king of the I %13101tTA toes,
.such as Jupiter and abets-.
Amongst the Jews, it related to Jehovah;. and throughout
Christendonr, it has been made aPplicahle to Jehovah, Jesus,
and some anonymous Ghost, called Holy."
These passages with which he had troubled
the House. would serve 'to... shew the lamentable
state to which the pres 4 of the present.day was
reduced. Ile. must remind. the Hon. and Learned..
Gentleman,.that if Parliament was not confined
to the,view of the case which he had taken, it
could not interfere to protect herJ\lajesty, with-
out also extending its protection to the witnesses,
to the Judges, and to the Court. It theicon--
,
lined themselves to the insulated' case now
brought before them it would shew that the
House of Commons cared only for one of the
interests concerned ;--that it did not care for the
proceeding' itself; nor for the Judge, nor for any
other party whose interests were equally
volved. ' He did not intend to oppose the motion
before the 'House ; - but, ill the House should'
adopt the proposal of the Learned Gentleman,.
he should certainly think it his duty to followup
the prosecution of the publications alluded to, by
moving that a sweeping -instructions be givia to
the Attorney-General,' to pursue the prints to
which • had just called the attention of
the House. lie • did not .mean, however to
infer that the Attorney-General "would not'
have prosecuted, of his- own accord, every one
• of 'these 'litfamods libels; but that House must!
shew that it directed its attention to the whole
sphere of these .offenCes:- He_ trusted he had
shown as much disposition as any Member could
show to condemn the libel in question, to which
he Was not disposed to give the-smallest cottnte-
natice,- It was for-the house to ,deternune whe-
ther it became them to order a prosecution for
that libel; but if, it did, he should feel it to be
his. duty to -deliVer "in the other publications for
the same purpose. •
Dr. LUSHINGTON felt confident that the.indignation of
every one in that House would be excited when the. libel was
. brought before them which slandered the Queen of this coun-
try whilst her trial was pending. It was his duty to state
why he had not conic before the House with a complaint of
this description. IO fact, the paper which his Honourable
and Learned Friend (Mr. Wetherell) had introduced to their
notice had been handed to him, and•excited such general in-.
dignation in all that saw it, that he gave the subject his par-
ticular 6n-skit:ration. But when he considered that the libel
was contained in an obscure country Print which bad but
little circulation, he conceived that it would be of compara-
tively little advantage to correct its noisomeness, so long as
the Prints of the-Metropolis were allowed to continue their
slanderous attacks on her Majesty. I/ would be in the recol-
lection of the House that a short. time. ago a Noble Lord
(Lard Nugent), had called their attention to -two.of the Daily
Papers of this town; one was the Morning Po.tt,- which said
that her Majesty ought to suffer, whether as a criminal or a
martyr, they cared not. The othettontai: ed alt equally atro-
cious attack—equally calculated to stimulate to acts of vio-
lence againit her Majesty: Now when be considered that
these Prints, which were under the immediate -eye of Go-
vernment, supposed to be under its influence, and to a cer-
tain degree udder its direction, were allowed to go at large ;
tic thought it was nut worth his while to. call for .the ven-
geance of Parliament on the other insignificant publication,
which, he thought, should be suffered to die in its own. tsar
tive-obscurity. His Hon. and Learned Friend stated, that
the essence of the offence of this writer was, that he branded
with criminality an untried individual; and he should he
dispoied to regard this charge with the more gravity, if her
Majesty bad received, any other -treatment throughout the
whole_ course of these proceedings. Had the Queen, he would
ask, hid no guilt imputed to her without trial, coming from
bigher quarters'? Did she now go to trial with the same ad-
vantages that _any ordinary individual would have under the
same circumstances ? Had she not already been treated by
Government as a person already convicted ? Was she not
struck outof. the Liturgy Without trial, to her .prejudicc
during .a pending investigation, and was nq this done With-
out giving her an. opportunity of clearing up the foul stains
upoes her character? What could his Majesty's Minis-
ters say against the Morning. Pug and the Courier atter
this ? It was not, of the injustice dune to her by the paltry
provincial
_print that he thought it worth while to complain ;.
'altfiough Ale had 'taken her Maj'esty"s_ pleasure ens the
subject. 'Re- had other reasons for norecllr/i2ng forward with'
.those complaints to the House. He h.lll et4er considered all
attempts to restrain .the public press estreniely difficwlt,
was surly as he aS to
witnessits Owl-rations from the
strait line of rectitude, he considered a free press as so essen
tial to tbeexi,tence of 111ty, that he was aVerse from corn-
ing forward to-place any shackles upon it, as no one could
•fore See w here their limit seas to he fixed. He lipped he strdold
not be misinterpreted, drill pposcd to wish that the. libel -in
question,shouki go ',without punishment. He thought that
was a matter that should be lett to the Attorney -General on
1- his own responsibility. It was true her Majesty might re-
':sort.to.the Courts of Law, but then be it remembered that
she went into those. Courts with the seal of -criminality affix-
' (Ann her by his Majesl,l% Government: With respect to the
• publications adverted to by the Noble L9rd-Opposite, he was
ready to admit.-that they had certainly • passed all the fair
bounds of,,puhlic discpssion. This,
oNwerer, was matter of
consideiation. for tin! Attorney-General ;• the rude of whose
conduct.in• instituting 'prosecutions tot : -libel 'ought, its his
opinion to .heotever: to take such a step unless he felt in his
conscience that he ought to obtain -a conviction. Had be fid-
loweellhat line, he would .probably nut hate failed in his
suits-against the .14-(4.ming- (443-tinkle, and some other Papers,
a few years, back. P;xl reuse cases Only should be selected fur
• the veng-eanee of 7.114 laW; and'had that policy been adhered.
to; the Learned,Gentlematr, be was sure, would:not have met
tiiaL so•thany Asappoitstutents. :
The ATTOItiCKY: G.E'NELLAL declared .that during the
~short time that lie had,hadt be honour of • lidding • the si tua-
: tipp of'lAw Officer' to -th`e UrOwn,• he had never instituted.
liq'Prugecittion•against-- the press, without feeling. in his own
, hreast•thatjtqlit;lik-N terminate in the, conVitl inn. Hr thought
'lse, expel-tepee cf the. iitosectitibris Which he had ,
4tutedl; shchild-beaFbim out that•asitirtiOn. The Liam-
cd Gentleman who had just sat dowri,'hadPai: he had sisal-

-15.1,:varlt,t1- Virinei''''Oecasidtis, attempted it. the
of `Ertirliariri.o to reiterate his accusations against Govern,
'mew. II deprecated'llien, as he had done before, such
conduct—it tended to create a prejudice against his -Ma-
jesty's Goyernondit, who, it) the present case; had"boen
com*clied to adopt the cotirse they had fi:lally pursued in
default of every other they had attempted. With respect to •
the topic of the Liturgy, to which he had agaiti adverted, he
(the Attorney-GOrai) never 'entertained. a Nfvubt. Hy& in
point of law, the' opsission •was petfeetly justithable. Wrs'at
would have been the conduct of Govhninent if they had in--
sertid the Queen's name ? They Would have to bring a
serious charge against her, which they had reason to be-
lieve
was fully borne wit by the testimony, whilst by the
act of inserting her name in the Liturgy, they acknow-
ledged-her to be guiltless.—(Heart)—The disrespect which
it was urged her Majesty had receives! since she bad come
to this country, was rather owing to her own conduct than
to that of his Majesty's Government. respect. to the
prints supposed to be unfavourable to her Majesty, he:de-
clared that there was no comparison between the lengths they
went, and those on the other side who called themselves the
friends of the Queen, butt whose real object was toamdermine
her cause, and work a revolution its the conotry. Who had
not. seen the papers placarded with the greatest industry
throughout the metropolis Ile Would ask hint Who said the
Queen's_ease was prejudged, whether he had seen any of an
.opposite tendency ? He reque.ted the indulgence and coosi-
deration 'of the House towards the exercise lie had made of
the powers entrusted to him, and hoped they would not think
he had neglected his duty ',meanie P/se-Repuldirait of the 21st
instant, The.E.ruminer of the 22d, and The lrustern
nary had nutlet be:en-prosecuted. He could not agree to the
IMAM') tif his Learned Friend, because he thought .it would
tend to prejudice what waA going on in the other House.
Mr. TIERNEY said lie would esinfioe himself entirely to the
Motion before the Hinise. In all the attention he had paid to
the discussloo,Ue coofessed he was unable to discover in what
manner the offence charged on the Publisher of the fceyern.
•Litminurq cotild be, made into a breach of the pi ieifeget-Of
that House. Giving him full credit fur its ingenuity, he
rather feat-eat bat the'' iirgoirtent of his Learned Friend (Mr.
Wetherell) was too refined for his (Mr. Tierney's) under-
' standing. The Learned Gentleman seemed to think that the
Bill of Tains and Penalties in the Lords was'sure Ao_come
down to,that House. He (Mr. T.) was-not at all sare'af attr
thing of the kind. If the offence was to be noticed :it-all by
Pat !lament, it Most certaiay rested wills the I louse of Lords
to take it tip.: When his-Learned Friend talked of the stilt
of prejudication, 6e. ought to see-that. directing the Attor-
oey-Getteral to proseente, would he sentlinLi-the indiyidital to
ial with the whole weight of the opinion of that Iry use iii ,
his prejudice. • . .
Lord ARCHIBALD HAMILTON denied that what had
been said: by his Hon. and Learned Friend (Dr. Lushington),
in disparagement or, condemnation of the pryCce'dingSsjii:
Majesty's Ministers, was intended to raise or inflame any
public prejudice. .It was nothing more than a fait statement
'and representation
.of their conduct. The Hots. stud Learued
Gentleman (the Attorney-General) was not, he thought, re-
marliably happy in his argument, that the insertion of the
queen's name in the Liturgy would have przventtd them
-from giving credit, to the charges. against. her. Such a
doctrine was fundamentally erroneous,. and nothing was
more certain than that an accused person ought until cats-
-victims, to he treated as innocunt • but the offer_of fifty
thousaod pounds a year was a proceeding quite as inconsistent
with the present. prosecution as.t he insertion of the Queen's
name in the Lititrgy could have been.' It appeared, its the
course of the late negotiations, thutt the omission diffuot arise
out of the charges} and would bait be affected by their result.
.He admitted. thatismoy gross and malignant libels had been.
published, but the authors seemed to have caught the infec-
., tion• from his Majesty's Ministers, and to have improved upon
their example.. In the endeavours made to pervert the irrita,
Ilan of.the public mind, his Majesty's Ministers had been
Most able coadjutors. 'By the system which they, bad adopted
they had armed ,one branch of the Royal Family against the
other, and Made the triumph—if triumph it could be called—
of.
one branch. constst, in the others' degradation. With re-
gard to the libel in question, it Was so gross as to he beneath
her .Majesty's Alt Cation, and was calculated to be•detriMental
only to the author...
Mr. MAXWELL spoke its reprobation of the blasphe-
mous and irteltgions publications which had been alluded to
in the course of the debate.

Mr.WETHERELL...repIied. He stated the object that
he had had in rieu in bringing this. subject forward, to be
obtained, since it had b•en admitted that the publication
in question had required, and.-had been in possession of
he attention. of the Attorney-. General of England. He.
was patified at hearing this, and was glad that he had
brought the question forward ; but he. thought the• No-
ble Lord had not treated- him with his ricensttuned
lenity. He had said, that he (Mr. Wetherell) had nut pro-
ceeded diligently and equitably; and had considered- him
to blame fur not reading all the ,libels which had been al-
luded to, yet it afterwards. appeared that the -Attorney-Ge-
neral himself had out read some of them. He contended, It
was not' fair•tO accuse hint of partiality for only bringing
ertie.forward;',if there: were.uthers of. a similar description,
'or equally reprehensible in afiother way, it was fur the At;
torney-General to find them out. He was not tire .serrant or
the fig of the Noble Lord, and it was ❑ot his duty to bring
all such offenders -to justice. What had passed- this night was
sufficient for his purpose, as be understood that the Attot ney-
General would have brOught the subject birward, if he (Mr.
Wetherell) had not improperly obtruded his tuotion:
The SPEAKER-is-as about to put the question, whett the
Hon. Member (Mr. Wetherell) said, with the perinisSicin of
the House be would withdraw his motion, and theAnotion. was,
accordingly withdrawn. ,