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of a very delicate anti COMPileatetl hat ore, anti
therefore Whatever was-to be done, should he
done with the greatest cantion and coolness._ tie
suggested that the debate could take place on the,
question for bringing up the Report.
The conversatioo'coroinned some time longer;
hut it entirely related to the forms of the House,
flint the most convenient period for having a toll
discussion on the pdociple of the Bill. 1t was
length-agreed that the Bill should now be re-
ported- to the Hose with its titnntrienttafhe
Report was then brought uP and read, and arrer e
to be re-committed on Monday.
Mr. CounTeNAY Soggested as the Report
of the Poor Laws Bill was to be considered on
Monday, the House might get into the same 'de,
lemma on this very important subject. He was
understood to wish it to he postponed, lest there
should-nor be time to go into the debate upon it.
. Mr. PEEL thought it might take its
.course on
that day;as Wednesday and Friday were engaged.
.The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, seeing
an Ron. and Learned Gentleman in his place,
wished to know if it was his intention to bring
,forward his motion ont he prosecutions for forgeries
.of Bank Note-s, which stood for this.evening ;.bot
Which, considering -its importance, and the
.state
ut the (louse, be trusted he- would not feel in,
dined to do.
Sir J. M NrKINT(AII had no hesitation in saving,
that co,,sidering the great jrnportance of the sub-
ject, and the convenience of bringing it before
the [louse when its attention was less excited
than it had lately been, he was dispoSed to post-
pone his motion till Toesday, • • • .
Mr. I\IaNNLNO said a few .words on the great
importance of the subject. It was one on which
very erroneous impressions had gone abroad, par-,
ticularly that expence-‘ras the reason why.ce►taio
recommendations for printing notes that could not
be torgt-d had not been attentled to. This report,
he could assure the Hon. and Learned Gentleman,
was perfectly unfounded. He was continuing,
when

The SP:-AxFa begged leave to suggest, that it
was irregular to go into any details, as it would
lead other Gentlemen to telly, and at prrsent
there was no question before Lhe House
COMMITTEE O} SUPPLY.

The House having gone into a Committee of
Supply,
.• ,
Mr. PEEL rose to submit the Irish Estimates
fer the present year. Ile observed that it- was
not necessary_ 'to take up the time of the HouSe by
going into any • detail. lie should therefore
merely move the usual anneal Grants ;. and he
had only to state, that lie should' propose no ad-
ditional number, and that in no case, except one,
was there any addition to soy braech. The
woOld recollect, that the aggregate of last.
year's Estimates producer) .a saving of 123,0001.
and that this Was not c ffected by a return of peace,
but by a reduction of the votes. In this year
there was a -still farther diminution, amounting
on the ' whole: to about
.10,0001. and the total
amount -was upwards of 13,0001. With respect
to the Charitab!e Instigations, there was no ad-
ditional charge, particularly from the strong
doubts lie entertained of the policy of some 'of
those Institutions,- and, the hope he entertained
of making. such alterations' in them as might be
found ne.'essaty. lie doubted the policy of the
eieient of some of these Institutions, particularly
settle fr
wreieoe tee' eaay eee-eeare-ehae-T-
-afforded to personi from tall parts, had a tendency
to increase rather than diminish human wretched.
tress and misery, by drag rag people from the
country in greater numbers than could ;gain
•With respect to the Charitableinstitti-
;ions, they -were eight sir nine in number, and
amongst them-there-had been a considerable dimi-
nution of expeuce. The Right lion. Gentleman
then read a statemen( of the' decrease that had
taken place in the different Secieties. In the
Depamtment of the .Board of ‘Votki, which eras
15,000/. last year, there Was a tec._X-ease this year
of about 10001. With respect to the grant' for
the seceding Ministers, it-S- tintoent was the same
as before ; but it was paid by a new vote this -
year, as, its payment was taken from the. Treasury,
hy the new arrangement. Ott the whole, the total
decrease this year 'was 85931. to he added to, the
123,000/. of ihe lamer year. He
.should .now
move the first Resolution, "'That there be.grant-
ed to his Majesty the sum of 13;3311. for the ex-
pence of supporting the Protestant Charity Schools
for one year, from the Ist of J:ennary, 1818.
•Sir JOHN NEWPORT observed, that this sum was
in addition to very large fends which these Esta-
blishments had from other sources, and which
might amount to 90001. or 10,0001; 0 year, (or the
cdecat ion of only 1,400. children. It would ap-
pear that this was extravagance beyond all
bounds ; 'as the items for officers' salaries, and the
wages, salaries, and diet of ushers, amounted to
7,4201. annually.
,There was also a sum of 7201.
for the catechist's salaries. .Now he thought this
was money thrown away, as this duty ought to
be performed by time Parochial Clergy where the
schools were situated, they having but little duty
to perform, He was aware that these schools be-
ing typropriated to Catholic children only had
been done away with since the Union.; but still
a considerable larger number of children might be
educated for timia sitm, if there were,proper•ma-
nagement. He hoped the-House would believe
that there was no man more sensible than him-.
self of the advantages to be expected from the
general education of the lower classes ; and his
only object in making these remarks •was, to ren-
der a large sum of the public money applicable to
the largest possible extent.
Sir G. 1111.4 said, he was-full as anxious to see
these Charity Schools made subservient to much-
more general purposes as the Hon. Baronet could
be ; and he assured him, that the manner in which
they had been conducted bad attracted the atten-
tion of many Gentlemen, particularly of those who
had formed . the Commission of ; and it
had been determined to renew their examination
in the course yf the simmer. 'He could assure
him that the doors of these Institutions were open
to every class of poor children, without any reli-
gious distinction -whatever. He thought it would
be advisable to enlarge the Schools alreadyesta.-,
blishelle As to the CateOists, there were .36
Schools, and each had a Catechist, who had ime.

portant duties to perform, by ascertaining whe-
ther the children were in competent con; of