The Sun.
London, England, 1845-08-29 00:00:00

EDINBURGH, AUG. 25.

I STOCK EXCIIANGE.-The sales are-Aberdeen, 31. 35.-
Arbroath and Forfar, 251.-Ditto, Half Shares, 15/.- British
and Irish Union, 3/. 4s. 6d.-Caledonian, 10/. 10s.-Caledo-
nian Extension, 2/. 165.-Clydesdale Junction, 91. - Direct
Northern, 21. 4s. 6d. - Dundee and Arbroath, 37/. Is. 6d.
-Ditto, New, 184 - Dundee and Perth, 4/. 125.-Edin-
burgh and Bathgate, 2/. 1 Is.-Edinburgh and Glasgow,
901.-Ditto, Quarters, 211. 15s.- Ditto, New, 154-Edin-
burgh, Glasgow, and Dumbarton, 1/. lls. 61-Edinburgh,
Leith, and Granton, 261.-Ditto, Preference, 171. 10s. 6d.
-Edinburgh and Northern, 11. 18s.-Ditto,New, 11. 35.-
Edinburgh and Perth, 1/. 13s. 6d.-Glasgow and Ayrshire.
89/.-Ditto, Quarter Shares, 22/. - Garnkirk and Glasgow,
414-Glasgow and Greenock, 214-Ditto, New Stock, 101.
55.-Ditto, Preference, 21. - Glasgow, Dumfries, and Car-
lisle, IL 6d.-Great North of Scotland, 2/.•155. 6d.-In-
verness 111 rd Elgin, 1/. 25.-London and York, 4/. 10s. -
Monkland and Kirkintilloch, 331.-North British, 31/. 10e.-
Ditto, Halves, 9/. 55.-Perth and Inverness, 2/. Is.-Scottish
Central, 71. 145.-Scottish Midland, 2/. 55.-Slamannan, 181.
-Stirling and Dunfermline, 1/. 13s. 6d.

[ADVERISEMENT.]
TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN.
SlR,—After taking ten days to consider of it, Mr.
Ashurst has at length ventured to publish a rejoinder to
my reply of the 18th instant. I can well conceive that
he has been writhing in painful indecision during this in.
terval, for in the first instance he faronred me with some
ten or twenty lines of this same rejoinder, and published
them in your paper, four or five days ago. His friends
no doubt told him that this paltry apology for an answer
would never do ; and now he favours me with an ex-
tended ediion of it, occupying two-thirds of a column.
Yet, with all its length, it is somewhat difficult to ex-
tract from it a single sentence that can be considered by
the most good-natured man at all relevant to the issue
between us. It is a common artifice with lawyers, when
their case is bad, to make a great splutter and pother
about points of no consequence, while they fight shy of
all that they cannot answer. And such is the policy of
Mr. Ashurst.

I accused Mr. Ashurst, broadly and publicly, and in
ail the newspapers,
First, of most culpable negligence while acting, or
professing to act, as the solicitor for my line in 1840,
1841, 1842, 1843, and 1844.

Secondly, I accused biro of supercilious and con-
temptuous treatment of the Bedford Committee, in 1844,
a line of conduct which led to his discharge.
Thirdly, I accused hire of fraudulently appropriating
to himself the patronage of the London and Manchester
houses, which had been given to my line, when my line
was the only direct line before the public, or in contem-
plation ; and,
Fourthly, I accused Mtn distinctly, pointedly, and
clearly, of attempting to defraud me, not only of the
patronage which I had obtained, but also of my project
itself, atter many fruitless attempts to discover some
competing line which might at least hare the merit of
originality, even if it were found utterly destitute of the
higher merit of practicability.
Such were the charges I brought against him, and in
terms so strong and unequivocal, that without a perfect
conviction nut only of their truth, but of my power to
prove their truth, I dared not have expressed myself as
I did. Mr. Ashurst has not had the courage, or I
should rather say the attlacity, plagiarist, pirate, and
attorney as he is, to offer answer or explanati.n to any
of these charges, or even to grapple with them ; but bas
prudently enveloped both himself and his readers in a
cloud of dust and confusion, which makes it impossible
to guess what the squabble is about. I suspect it is in
vain to hope for a reply, although I again reiterate my
accusation, and again challenge him to call a public
meeting either in Llndom or Manchester, with reason-
able notice, and there meet me and my proofs face to
face. Mr. Ashurst is too sagacious to accept the chal-
lenge.

i'et even in this hubble-bubble letter, falsehood vies
with bad taste for the ascendancy. I quote his words—
•` Mr. Remington talks of meetings to support his line.
There was but one meeting—that was at Bedford, got
up by himself, to aid his project to go to York and
Manchester."

I answer that there were not less than eleven public
meetings held in support of my line at the following
eleven places :—namely, Barnet, St. Alban's, Luton,
Ampthill, Thrapston, Wellingborough, Higham
Ferrers, Kettering, Bedford, Northampton and Leek. I
have on my table before me printed copies of the reso-
tions passed and published at each of these meetings. I
may well say with Mr. Hume, " Let him take his change
out of that !"

Again, Mr. Ashurst says, " I have published no names
in support of the line to which I have been appointed
solicitor, but such as were given to me in, or subse-
quent to, June of this year." I answer that Mr. Ashurst
has published and prefixed to his prospectus more than
100 names, which were never given at all to any particu-
lar line, either of his or mine, but only in favour of '` a
direct line," at a time when mine was the only direct
line before the public. I have before me a letter of Mr.
Shepperson, one of his Committee, and of his active sup-
porters, addressed to Mr. Rogers, one of the present so-
licitors of my line, and dated the 16th of October, 1844.
inclosing the names of fifty-six houses, most of which
are now daily advertised by Mr. Ashurst, but which
names were then obtained to sanct!on my undertaking!
Will Mr. Ashurst dare to assert that he has obtained
these names to any project of his own since June, 1845?
If he hazards such an assertion, I will re-publish the list
with Mr. Shepperson's letter, and leave them all to fight
it out among themselves.
But Mr. Ashurt speaks of " the line to which I have
been appointed solicitor." Whit is this line to which he
is appointed solicitor ? Who has appointed him ? Why
does he leave it doubtful and indefinite ? It is so strange
as to be almost incredible, that to this hour, when Mr.
Ashurst has for months been advertising a railway com-
pany, and ostensibly patronised by high-sounding com-
mercial names, and has closed his share list, and, for
anything I know or care, received thousands by way of
deposit, with all the prestige of sharernarket quotations
and premiums, and London and York amalgamations, he
has no line at all—he has published no line at all—he has
projected no scheme, no enterprise or undertaking, except
that which goes by the name of " Remington's line," and
which, as my acknowledged line, I have confided to the
protecting care of a Committee, who shun all contact
with Mr. Ashurst as they would with a walking pesti-
lence ! Where, then, is the line to which Mr. Ashurst is
the appointed solicitor? His own prospectus describes it.
in July last, as a line by " Barnet, St. Alban's, Dunstable,
Luton, Ampthill, Bedford, Wellingborough, Kettering,
Market Harborough, Leicester, Loughborough, Ashby-
de-la- Zouch, Burton-on-Trent, Uttoxeter, Cheadle, Let k,
Macclesfield, Stockport, and Manchester." Now this,
with one exception, is precisely the line upon which I have
been at work for nine years past, varying it slightly by
the omission of Derby, to meet public opinion ; and this
is the line, with the same single exception, which I and
my patrons stand pledged to bring before Parliament—
the exception is the town of Loughborough, because that
town could not be included without making a detour 01
many miles. Mr. Ashurst, however, is like the ead
of a Paddington omnibus, who, to entice passengers, will
promise to set them down very near Hampstead-heath.
If anybody will be at the trouble of examining ene of the
Ordnance maps he will find that Loughborough is
many miles out of the direct route ; thus, through the
ingenuity of Mr. Ashurst, there is all the machinery of
Provisional Committees, acting Committees, share-
holders, share market, solicitor, and engineer, without
any ultimate object in view, except to make a line which
others have projected, fostered, matured, and subscribed
their money to co construct, long before he or his friends
dreamt of such an undertaking. This fact will be recorded
by historians hereafter as a proof of the gullibility of the
public in this age of railway speculation.
It is scarcely necessary to acquit myself a second time
of the spiteful insinuations of Mr. Ashurst, that I have
capriciously, or ignorantly varied my estimates ; his
sneers do not affect me, but they may possibly mislead the
public; I therefore repeat, that when I contemplated aline
to York us well as Manchester, I mentioned 7,000,000/.
for the capital; when the scheme was confined to Lon-
don and Manchester, I limited the estimates to 4,000,000/.:
when it was proposed to add a branch through the Potte-
ries, I increased the estimate to 5,000,0001. ; the estimate
of 2,000,0001., which he quotes with malicious triumph,
appeared in a prospectus published in my absence from
London, and without my knowledge : it was a mistake,
as I readily admit, but one for which I am not account-
able, and which was corrected as soon as it was dis-
covered ; all this was explained in my former letter, nor
would Mr. Ashurst have revived the 'subject if he had
not felt that his only chance of escaping detection was to
make the most of a mistake.

I have given Mr. Ashurst enough to do ; he has found
it difficult enough to invent a competing line ; he has
found it yet more difficult to meet, without equivocation,
the charges I have here repeated ; but I must perplex
him yet a little more. Will he have the goodness to in-
form the public, who have been so kind as to buy his
shares and supply him with money, what he proposes
to do with their money beyond the, payment
,of his
own costs ? He has not surveyed any part of•tu' line
at present ; and if this work is to be commenced
now, I can assure him, and so oan Mr. Rastrick; that he
will Rot be ready by the 30th of November: I will do all

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I can to assist him; and as my survey andislei-tions(itit
nearly completed, he shall be welcome to them as soon
as the solicitors have completed the book of reference.
This is very liberal, considering that he has appro-
priated my nine years' labour without asking leave; but
it will show him that I do not harbour resentment,
and am willing to return good for evil ; his shareholders,
ihowever, will do well to inquire whether he can avail
himself of my liberal offer in time to comply with the
standing orders ? If not, I fear that their shares wilt
be at an alarming discount before the 30th of Noveui-
ber.—l am, Sir, yours obediently,
August 28, 184. GEORGE REMINGTON.

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.0 se, wter rds tir,y's ni,i“ ration was
:he, •ti out, hen the reaction tot‘k place, it) the lin,-
,lon of which th,t v,ry qn-anon had an lop Trant
Ile (So. ',V. Mol-sworth) nail aivvays voted
on in- 11.;b:.ia! s,d of every question, and generally with
;onni•ll—(l:twers)—a,-:d he hal seconded Ir.
notion t r potting down Orange lodg-s in Ire-
Tne Hon. Baronet resumed his seat
arn,d,t toe 7n-st enthusiastic -Applause.
2111% WAKELING rose to move the customary resolution,
to eff.ct that the meeting was satisfied with the
can ant; straightforward statement made by
ALd,?3wor h, which had entitled him to their
stipp-irt and confidence ; and that they pledged them-
se!ve4 to tie their most strenuous exertions to secure
his return to Parliament as the representative for the bo-
Tough of Southwark.

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Sir WILLIAM MoLEswoRTH said two questions had
been put to him. Toe first was —What would have
been the course pursued by him had he been in the
House of Commons when Lord Worsley's Bill for
inclosing the public commons • was introduced ? To
that he could only answer, that nut having ever read
that all, he was unprepared to state his views
upon it.—(" You ought to have read it then.") Well,
mar be he ought, but the fact being that he had not,
he ccnild give no other answer. But his conduct would
be e,er guidel by the principle of taking care of the pri-
vieges and providing t;ut the wants and .the amusements
oi' the working el-isses.—(Cheers.) The second ques-
tim was —What Cuurse would he have adopted with re-
to -Lori Ashley's Bill for shortenin:,• thu hours of
fu,!tories ? To than, he should only reply. that-
onia, an..i be feel e -
- liiterfering h,tween waster and
L.,)an.—(Apb:au-e and hisses.)
:,1-. ‘VA.HELING was then permitted to proceed with
sm,eoh, 10 the eourse of which he sail that Mr. Miall
injori•,:e• tile eau,. by his conduct, in persevering' in
e u:-se he was purAning.—(llear, hear.)
;The ,s.solu ion having been seconded by Mr. -MAL-
ve is put from the chair and carried with but few

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ct ~f wa,4 then gi;•en t) the Chairnm,
t•r) fh- in a inn, which was • a very numerous on,

I.;NE".Z TI) THE LICENSED VIC.

rA,ER,-; OF

RI itaIINGHAAI. WEDNESDAY EVENING —To-day the
Le-r, d Vinivallers Protection Society of ihis town dined
to,tether at Vauxoall Gardens in celc,b-ation of the 23d anni-
ver a• y, no:I it was most certainly a very spirited affair. Mr.
,ler,••ant Allen was to have presided, but owing to revere in-
n that gentlema., was orevented from attrnding, but
:is ~late wa= very ably filled by Th,imas Phillips, E q., mayor
ti,rough , suported by John Bourne, E.g., high bailiff;
alm;:r, Atkinson. Biftl Nin, Mutchett,
re and s,veral other members of the corporation, and
ral eedical arid other professional gen:leraen of the
:., am o,r,r whom were S. Cox, Samford.
barri,ter ; J. B. Payne, and deputations from Lon:loi.,
•r,. of Notting!, m, Cotentry. tke. A•nong-t
ge.tiemen Irmo London were Mr. Walter. Mr Elt, Mr.
W eke• , and Mr. Wire. The dinnet took place in a splendid
ac erected for the occasion, in the above grounds, and
n Miuived with mu,h animation. N arl.. 401) persons sat
dinner, which was served up in a:rnirah.e style by host
rile clot having he removed.
v I,r in suitable terms The Health of the 1

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o -ifrer .vll4-h

3140 l• e eu 3.Z.itM (killaiy
allow;,' by Col.oel vloore t.) he pret.e.it ) F-truf!ic up the ra-
tional It.:T.ll,tn, and played it with great cliect.
nea;,;, of" Prince Albert'. was woxt proposed by the
Mayor, who c,bserved that they had seen his Royal Highness
in tiirminghatn, and had been extreativ del: rated with his
affability of mann..r and great condescension. His Royal
Highness had won the r.frec;ions of all classes, r,d only in Bir-
mingham, but in every ot;:er part 01 her Mai -s,y's dominions;
hr therefo,e proposed with ai; his heart, " The health of his
lfig,hness Prince Albert." Band—" Prince Albert's
IMa•c)."

The Health of her Majesty the Queen Dowager, his
High!,ess the Prince of Wales, and the rest of the
Royal ;74naily," were then proposed and warmly responded
to ; of er .wh.ch the Chairman proposed " The Army and
Navy." " Nohlemen and Gentlemen in both Hous,, of
Par24rrtent who have advocated the interests of the Licensed
Vic!ualiers of England," " The Authorities of the Town,"
to thB Birmingham Licensed Victuallers Associa-
tion," " The health of the -'resident," " The County and
Borough Members," " The Visitors who have honoured us
with their company," " The Health of Charles Hibble and the
United Towns Association," " The Gentlen.en forming De-
putations from other Towns," " The Honorary Members of
the As''ciation." " The Incorporated Society of Licensed
Victuallers of London, and success to their splendid charity,"
" The Press—more particularly that portion which has advo-
cated ti,e cause of the Licensed Victuallers," " The Health of
-the Vice. President the Treasurer, Committee, and Secretary
of the Assnci ttion," " The Warwickshire Lasses," " The
Stewards," and " The Host."

Th.- cnrnpany, in re-ply to these toasts, were addressed by
Cllr `.Vi;lian~ Cho-Aire, Mr. Cox, Mr. Wire, and several of the
,deput*tions from tilt. various towns, after which the conviviality
W.AS k.Tt up until an advanced hour.

I?.Pt.IGION IN THE ('Or.oNTEs —From a bulky Par-
ham ,;fsry re.urn, jut published, it appears th it, according to
of the grants, endowments, and appropriations
,i,a. o for H,e purpose of religious instruction or of educatipn in
the ovioni,4 (the gross total publication of our colonial &pen-
atnonnting in the aggregate to 4,'05,739 souls), there
si.: „old in 1612 a total sum of 226,902/. to the Clergy of the
c.),„Thps of England, Scotland, Rome, and the 3lethodist
Di.senting Alinisters, of which 46,9611. was paid
ny the British Treasury, and 176,93e1. from Colonial
und• i h grants from the 13riti•lt Treasury
.ch,„„is storing the same period amounted to 23 1171.;
and for 1;olanial funds to 146,2.10/., making a
total of 174,•iti11. Of the sum of 49,694/. granted by the
f reasury Po. C:ergy, those of the Anglican Establishment
44.593/ ; those of the Scotch, 347/. ; and those of
• qiioti it, .).024,/. Of the smin of 176,93'/. granted from
in,ric, I 8,443 i. was received by the Anglican. Clergy,
c 3 / by the *eotch, 4,634/. by the Weslcyans and Dissen-
-44,216/. by the R.,mish Priests,.
ittf,rlll,l the Rev. Doctor
Wolff. has taken np his 'resirlenee at Malines, and has
tine chaJlaincy of the English Protestant Chapel
;,.r,, :here he wil perform disine service eve: y Sunday.—
;""efe''

TORM IN A UGUST.--Ou Wedneedt!y
o',,luek, e town of Framlingham was visit9ll
ri, s,,mv :ior• '9 whic,, 1140 about ten minutes, with inter.
—4usicich I: e.,:'" - •

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21IZEI:ING OF SIR WILLIAM MOLESWORTH'S
- FRIENDS. • '
The supporters of this gentleman held a meeting on
%% daeelay evening, in the Southwark Literary Insti-
.ttea ea which was very fully attended.
The chair was occupied by Esa.vard Evans, Esq., who,
aft, r a few introductory observations,- introduced the
llon. Baronet to t:ie meeting.
Sir WILLiAM MOLESWORTH commenced by going•
over the atme topics which have formed the subject."
Platter of all his ai-evious addresses. He then proceeded
:‘.) notice t' e pre.•re2s of his cause with the electors,
eettiee 'let his election for the boroegh of Southwark
eta, all but certeie. He was in t.irilied by his Committee
thet the (nineties had hitherto been most suecessful. By
far the greater majerity of electors pledged themselves
to support him. Next in number of supporters stood
Mr. Pileher, and le tat and last of all, with far the fewest
number of electors t-) sustain his c-.use, stood Mr. Mien.
He could assure the ineeting that Mr. Miall had no
ceanee. --(Cheerine, with an expteeeion of dissent from
e! .ear •s •;n the se,e7nr.l bench.) Adtir.e,ing a
a 'a er i^ae'rea if. fee toe-aeft the fact
et tatter eel a) le-ness of 77ueeees?
.Tae ELECTOR replieit. theft as he ead been apee4ed
te personally, he could not undertake p• rscnally to
deny it.
Sir W. 7,IoLEswoRTH proceeded—He should prove
that. Mr. Miai's frands well knew the fact that he had
no chance or being returned. They knew the state of
cae case. And why, then, did they persevere ? Be-
clue, a Hee of them had said that they would rather see
a Tory returned than him (Sir W. .tlolesworth). He
repeat.•tl the offer he had already frequehtly made, to
leave it to the Liberal electors to make their choice be-
tween bins and Mr. Mail, and he would pledge himself
to retire if the selection should not fall upon him.—
(Cheers.) Why had not Mr. Miall or his friends ac-
cepted that fair proposal ? Would the gentleman who
represented Mr. Miall at the meeting explain the reason,
and tell them why ?
The ELECTOR who had before interrupted the busi-
ness begeed that Sir Willietn Molesworth would not call
up-tn him to sustain Mr. Miall's cause.
Sir W. MOLESWORTH would not aaain appeal to him,
as he had renounced and repudiated the cause of Mr.
Miall. But he had supposed him anxious to put himself
forward as an advocate.
Tne ELECTOR jumped up again, and indignantly de-
nied that he had either renounced or repudiated Mr.
Miall's cue te.
Sir '4". .40LESWORTH resumed. lie would explain
the reason why Mr. Mien -.vould not acc.--pt the offer.
It was Isecaite) he well knew that the choice of the
Liberal electors e- ,uld not fall upon him. It was be-
cause he and his ftletals were well aware that the choice
he majority, of the Liberal electors would fall upon
Ir. tliril', t'rtietel. were perfee7ly aware that he
7 -•7.eee, ee•-; •'s qv 7-ea himseit tie. ,t.reivaer re tee
• eleeel :• :-severti In going to tee pail.—(Loud
rn.) The trial enght to be one of principle ;
to be (city between Liberality and 'foryisto,
1..) was pert eftiv sure of defeating the
in.!: I ,te, e• en under the plasent cir-
e Lae at.: .1 it was matter or deeo regret that
...aiea he weuld be returnel woule be
.e ffa the nenbu.r.wi7.hlrawn a• professing
.t ttieeeeer, iR peiet .-7t f i r. 111 e contest
eef .tad Mr. Pllchre, a•-•I it was faere-
ii.,•••piee aten7• he had to ,ie,tl. He d'ilared
•,• a, aeir ,la-rent or four very importaat
e- aret was religious liberty and eqeality ;
a a. e• justice to Irei. aid ; the third was
i eft' q leseen of free trade ; and the fourth and
r.-easal t. the reaessity of certain altera-
e ; .771g,-,t t i he made in the insli..utiuns of the
.vieg explained his tiew3 as before upon
i 7 ques7ious, he expressed his absolute
- t ,11 cud avments for religious purposes
eest•iiit, C or other denemitiation.—
a t it - rink.) lle then expleine his reasens
".t .\I-aynoeth greet from his gener
J 1 en for religieus purposes.
eruptioe h ,Vier en ued
a•:nzoa eur. " rha question is settled
• ~ • - ae,a, yon eet, Sa"
RTH nevi' tea,. The,-e is