The Sun.
London, England, 1845-07-14 00:00:00

THE EXPERIMENTAL SQUADRON
PORTSMOUTH, JULY 13.—The squadron now at Spithead
under the orders of Rear-Admiral Hide Parker, is officially
reported ready for sea, and will leave the anchorage on the trial
cruise to-morrow.
This being the last opportunity we may have for some time
of mentioning in detail the experimental squadron, we will
give a few particulars respecting the construction, &c., of each
ship, which may be interesting to the general as well as the
nautical reader.
The St. Vincent, 120, Captain Rowley, the flag-ship of
Rear-Admiral Hyde Parker, Commander-in-Chief of the
squarlron, was built on the lines furnished by the late Sir
William Rule ; the Trafalgar, 120, Captain 'W. F. Martin,
was built by Mr. Oliver, Lang, Master Shipwright of Wool-
wich Dockyard, at that yard, in 1841 ' • the Queen, 110, Cap-
tain Sir B. Walker, was built on the plan furnished by Sir W.
Symonds, Surveyor of the Navy, at Portsmouth Dockyard, in
1839 • the Rodney, 92, Captain Edward Collier, was built on
the plans furnished by the late Sir Robert Seppings (Surveyor
of the Navy), at Pembroke Dockyard, in 1831; the Albion,
90, Captain Nicholas Lockyer, was built on the plans of Sir
William Symonds ( Surveyor of the Navy ), at Devonport Dock-
yard, in 1843 ; the Vanguard, 80, Captain G. W. Willes, and
the Superb, 80, Captain A. L. Corry, were also built by Sir
William Symonds (the former at Pembroke Dockyard in 1836,
and the latter at the same yard in 1842); tt,e Canopus, 84,
Captain F. Moresby, is of French construction, and was cap-
tu,el at the battle of the Nile.
Thee are the eight ships forming the experimental squadron
of 184 b, which will sail from Spithead on Tuesday to try their
respective qualities a, models for future ships of their class. As
this is professeely to be a trial of fairness we may be excused
for offering a few remarks upon what appears to us -a want of
equi'y in the said trial. It will no doubt strike the reader, as
it does us, as .omewhat strange, anti at variance with those
principles of impartiality upon which a squadron of such import-
ance should be sent cut for the attainment of so great and na-
-ismally important an end, that four of the eight ships com-
posing it are by one constructor, and two of them of the same
class.
The following table, being a copy of the official return
ordered to be made to the Lords of the Admiralty by the Com-
mander-in. Chief of the squadron, on Friday last, shows, in
undeniable terms, the capabilities of each ship of the squadron,
and, as an authentic document, is highly interesting and im-
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We will merely make one remark upon this table in support
of our opinion of the want of fairness in the approaching trial.
It will be perceived that the Albion, two decker, of 9() guns, is
of 3,099 tons burdea, but her displacement is 4,152 tons, and
she carries 432 tons of water, her weight of provisions being
less than that of the St. Vincent, 120, three deck.-r, by 168
days' consumption for 135 men; the St. Vincent also carries
98 tons more water, and her displacement is 4,484 tons ; con-
sequently the St. Vincent has a far greater burden to carry
through the water than the Albion, yet has 4,840 feet of can-
vass less in her sails to enable her to do it ! The Surveyor's
80 gun two-deckers are each of the same tonnage, yet the Van-
guard can stow IC9 tons more water than her "sister" (the
Superb)! We could give numerous other instances in support
of our opinion as above expressed, did our space permit, but
we leave the above tabular document to speak for itself.

Contracts were taken at the Royal *Clarence victualling..
establi4htnent, Gosport, on Thursday, for 1,650 quarters of
wheat, weighing not less than 601 b. a bushel, at 495. 6d. and
51s 6d. par quarter, being an increase of ss. on the contract
taken six weeks ago.
_ _ _ _ _

The Rolla, 10, Commander Simpson, arrived at Sierra Leone
from Chatham, on the 24th of May.
The Resistance, 42, troop-ship, Commander Patey, arrived
at Cork, from this port on Monday, and embarked the 66th
Regiment for conveyance to Gibraltar.

REFORM IN THE HOUSE OF
LORDS.

Most persons who have paid any attention to proceed-
ingi in the Upper House of Parliament must have been
struck with the irregular mode in which they are con-
conducted. Some Peers speak ten times on the same
subject as a matter of course. Their Lordships indeed
seem to claim exemption from the general rules which
regullte every deliberative assembly, from the House of
Commons to the lowest debating club in an ale-house.
A scene occurred last week in the Lords, which will af-
ford a remarkable proof of the fact. Lord Brougham,
in a speech on the railway department of the Board of
Trade, had made some allusions to Mr. Hudson, when
Lord FEVERSHAM said that Mr. Hud: on, who was
present, and had heard Lord Brougham's sp:ech, had
authorised him to say that it was incorrect_ to say
that he interfered with the Committee.

Lord BROUGHAM observed that the only sovereign
entitled to be present at their debates was her Majesty.
The railway potentate had no right to be there.
The Earl of DEvoti objected to the Noble Lord's re-
peatedly speaking on the same motion. "The Noble and
Learned Lord," said he, "has made six or seven speeches
on this subject, which is a larger number than he ought
to have indulged in. I shall not, however, follow his
example."
Lord BROUGHA3I—I beg to tell the Noble Earl that
I shall speak as often as I please, without consider-
ing the wishes of the Noble Earl, who is not compelled
to listen to me. When he was sitting at this table some
time since (as Clerk of Parliament), he was compelled
to listen ; he is not so now ; but I shall exercise my
right of speaking whether the Noble Lord chooses to
listen or not.

The Earl of DEVON—My Lords, I shall not comment
upon the good taste—(Hear, hear)—and the personal
feeling which have prompted the Noble Lord to make
the observations which your Lordships have just heard.
I do not know whether it be a well-merited observation,
but as the Noble and Learned Lord has now avowedly
and openly put himself in a position of defiance of this
House, it becomes necessary to consider what are the rules
and orders of the House upon this subject, and I tell
the Noble and Learned Lord that, although he tells us,
in the strong language be is accustomed to use, that he
N;sill speak in this House as often as he likes, when he
clues again speak twice or thrice on the same question,
e...r.trriry to the rules of this House, I shall call upon
~,ur,Lorelships to vindicate and enforce these rules.
Lord 1.31101.7 GUAM-I hope there will be equitable
extended t. all, on both sides of the House.—
hear.) I never rise frt qutntly unless other Noble
Lordi do.

Vv e hope this scene, will be followed by the best re-
sults, and that the Earl of Devon and Lord Brougham
will lay their heads together and establish something
like order in th•.ir Lord,hips' pr )ceeclings.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.
LATEST BETTING AT THE WEST-END.
LIVERPOOL CUP.
1 agst Mr. Bell's Winesour—taken
1 agst Mr. Mortyn's Milton—taken
1 agst Mr. Meiklam's Trueboy—taken
1 apt Nereus—taken
1 apt Lothario—tak•n
COODWOOD STAY. ES.
17 to 1 agst Sir J. Hawley's Venus—taken
17 to 1 agst Mr. Payne's Queen Mah—taken
25 to 1 agst Lord Exeter's Wee Pet--taken
• ST. LEGER.
5 to 1 agst Mr. Gully's Weatherbit—taken
25 to 1 agst Mr. Irwin's Connaught Ranger

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DINNBR TO .lit. BRITTON, F.S.A.—At a dinner
given on the 7th inst., at Richmond, to the above veteran
antiquary and topographer, the Chairman, in proposing his
health, said, " Mr. Britton was not ashamed to have it known
that he was of humble origin, and that he had not had the
advantages of education in his youth ; but he had been
both the builder and the architect of his own for-
tunes, and by unwearied industry and perseverance
lie had succeeded, in spite of every disadvantage,
in producing those works which had placed him
is his present position. By a paper which he then held in
his hand, he found that the number of those volumes was
15; besides numerous—almost innumerable—essays; that
they comprised no less than 17,122 pages; and such of them
as had ever attempted to write even 20 pages would be able
to appreciate tli-3 labour. Then Mr. Brit-
ton's works were 1,866, and thet?gbeautyravgs i
in
and accuracy.
were well known; and to come to a matter which he, as
a commercial man, might be supposed to know more
taobouhte,
the money expended
in these productions amounted
enormous sum of 50,328/. And all of these, it should be tre
gnembered, were essentially useful and instructive. That day was Mr. Britton's birth-day; on that day he entered upon
his 75th year; and his whole life had been actively a
tadpon
in-
dustriously spent.—The Builder.
LONG DURATION OF SLEEP.--The trance um:Pr
which Mr. Barry has been labouring for weeks past, still continues
Sti bad as ever. He passed a very restless day on Monday, owing
to the noise made by the incesstnt firing at the review in Hyde-
park. Prince Albert has been unremitting in his inquiries; and
strict orders have been given by hi.t Royal Highness that Mr. Barry,
as long as he continues in his pre-
eat hopeless state, is not to be
disturbed by arlbody. Lord Brougham called in the course of
the weak, but was instantly denied. His Lordship left word that
he wJuld look in again shortly, as he was most anxious to know I
bow Mr. Barry was getting on. Mr. Barry is still quartered at
the new Houses of Parliament, it being the spot where his singular
IV EWSP t •
..IT)) xit
rirst began. Should there be no signs of improvement,
that is to say, of his getting rapidly wide awake—there
d of removing him,—Fungi,l -: ' 7.-: - r
4:7:igli. - • • ;/.