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13RINSH CATHOLIC ASSOCIATION.

attached to any till or Bills heretorore hi-ought into Par-
liament, and professing to be fhr the relief of his Majesty's
Roman Catholic subjects; that we must ever deprecate,
and resist, by all constitutional means, the imposition of
any such measure, as innovations on eur C.nstitution,
which requires no other securities from the sithject than
those which the British Catholics hare at all time; ren-
dered and still Ii„ re,uier, namely, Intnnission to the laws
which contronl prollerly, lilitrtyi and life, together With
their most important interests and most solemn oaths."
Mr. ROPER seconded the resolution.
Mr. ADDIS in support of it said, that he thought
they were bound to submit to conditions that did
not compromise their honour, or infringe on the
principles of their religion: (Hisses, and cries of we
tY.)

Yesterday a Gencial "Ahn..tirs! ef the Mernigers
of the above Association was hc1:1 at the Free-
masons' Tavern; porsttant to a Rrquisition signed
by the Secretary.

WHEBLE, Esq., in ti.e. Chair.
The circumstances which gave rise to this Meet-
ing were as follow :—At the last General Meet=
ing, the Duke of Norfolk, and other distinguished
Catholics, expressed their consent to accept of
emancipation, accompanied with securities. This
concession gave offence to the Irish Association,
who at their next Meeting commented on the con-
duct of the Noble Duke and his colleagues in no
measured terms, which drew from Mr. Blount, the
Secretary to the English Association, the following
letter :

Mr. STAPLETON was not such a visionary as to
contemplate the probability of unconditional eman-
cipation. The Government could not be expected
to grant emancipation without some securities.—
(Groans and hisses.) He was willing to retract his
former declaration, and if Ministers offered emanci-
pation accompanied with securities, he would, cap in
head, accept if with thankful humbleness. (Cries
of turn him out—he is an apostate.) He concluded
by moving as an amendment,
" That this Special Meeting of the British Catholic
Association having been convened by requisition, solely for
the purpose of taking into consideration the Resolution of
the Irish Catholic Association respecting Mr. Blount's ex-
pressed sentiments upon the question of conditions—Re-
solved, that these sentiments have our entire approbation ;
and that this Association feels deeply indebted to that Gen-
tleman • for the many valuable services which he hay ren- •
dered to the Catholic Body."
Mr. WITHAN seconded the amendment.

" London, Nov. 18, 1828.
" My dear Friend—The indispensable duty devolves on
rue, as Secretary to the Beitish Catholic Association, of
applying to you, as Agent to the Irish Catholics, to know
tinder what strange misconception of circumstances it is,
that the cunduet of the British Catholic Association has
been so severely animadverted upon at a recent Meeting of
the Association in Dublin.
" You have viewed our conduct closely ; you have been
in intimate connection with us, and you can best say
whether we leave merited ace particle of those severe im-
plications that have been profusely lavished upon us.
" If it be blameable to hold that it is inexpedient to re-
ject all conditions before any are tendered, in so far we
plead guilty—and from those who differ with us we claim
a right which we most willingly cancede—that of enjoying
our opinion.
" In union) not only with every member of the British
Association, but with every friend to the liberties of man-
kind, I beg to express an anxious hope that no difference
may arise between us to weaken our united exertions in a
common cause against a common enemy.
" I am, my dear Friend, much your's,
" EDWARD BLOUNT.
" To Eneas Macdonnell, Esq."
Upon the receipt of this letter, the Lisp Asso-
ciation again wet, and came to the following Reso-
lution :
" That Mr. 2Eneas Macdonnell do take measures to have
the question of Conditions brought before the Catholic As-
sociation of England ; and if that body should not reject the
sentiments expressed by their Secretary, Mr. Blount, on
that subject, that he do cease all intercourse with them as
our agent.
"MICHAEL COPPINGER, Chairman.
" EDWARD DWYER, Sec. Irish Cath. Association."
The above Resolution having been forwarded to
Mr. Blount, he convened a meeting of the British
Catholics upon the subject. The business of the
day commenced with Mr. Blount's reading the re-
quisition; after which, he requested that gentlemen
would confine themselves to the object for which
they had been called together. Although, on gene-
ral principles, he was an advocate of free discussion,
yet, on the present occasion, he trusted that none
but members of the British Catholic Association
would attempt to address the meeting. (Hear.)
Mr. i-ENEas MACDONNELL then rose, and was re-
ceived with loud cheers. He was placed in a
peculiar situation, and would therefore state the very
peculiar circumstances which placed him in so pro-
minent a situation before them. In the first place
he would tell a plain unvarnished tale of all the pro-
ceedings that had taken place since he last addressed
them, not vilifying those who took one side of
the question, or justifying those on the other, and if
he were wrong in any statement he made, he was
most anxious to be set right. One fact was not to
be denied, that the question of conditions or securities
had been heard, he knew not from whence (for it
had never been stated), which hat.Uembarrassed the
whole Catholic body. For the last twenty years
that question had been under the review of the Ca-
tholics of Ireland, and the Catholic prelates and laity
had with one accord pronounced against them. A Cabinet Council was held at half-past three
All classes had decided their opinions to be adverse o'cloCk yesterday afternoon, at the Foreign Office, Down-
to such
:measures. In 1824 (unfortunately, as he ing-street, which was attended by the Lord Chancellor,
thought) the Irish and British Catholics joined to- the Duke of Wellington, Earls Bathurst and Aberdeen,
gather for the attainment of one common object. Viscqunt Melville, Lord Ellenborougb, Mr. Secretary
At that time the English Catholics knew that the Peel, Sir George Murray, the Chancellor of the Exche-
Irish were opposed to any measures of conciliation,
that would endanger their religious system, or sacri-
goer, Mr. Vesey Fitzgerald, and Mr. Harries. The Mi-
fice or put in peril that for which .their ancestors had 'onisters did not conclude their sitting till a quarter past six
'clock.
fought and bled, and which they conceived it to be
their duty to transmit to posterity as they found it. Tile Duke of Northumberland has been in
(Loud cheers.) He did not wish to impeach the constant communication, within the last few days, with
conduct of the British Catholic body; but he would Mr. Secretary Peel. His Grace's private secretary at-
say, that when they formed an union with the Irish, tended yesterday at the Irish Office.
they must have been aware of the terms of the part- MELTON MOWB RAY, JAN. 22.—The frost
net-ship. The Irish had always considered their opi- has set in here most severely, and the gentlemen of the
nions upon the question as not to be sacrificed for chace, who have hitherto experienced excellent weather
for hunting, arc daily leaving; indeed, the little " sport-
the purposes of politicaradvancement—(Hear)—and
when there appeared an inclination of a different feel- ing capital," which, but a week back, was thronged with
ing on the part of the British Catholies;then the Irish fashionables, will, in a few days, be entirely deserted.--
put them to the following question :—You knew our The carriages
is
are
making
partPre
hourly out of the town, and
principles when you joined us, and you acquiesced
preparation
forco hiuntr d
heaPsabrteennre.e—x-
e
in them. Do you entertain the same opinions now ? Theveyf Nimrodall of snow in this
cessively heavy, and the five days' ,frost which has crusted
If you do remain united with us; but if you do its surface renders hunting next to impossible. The gen•
not, however melancholy arid injurious the tlemen, it is evident, are extremely reluctant to leave the
effect of a separation may be, there is one thing, sports of the field so early in the season, and have generally
and one only, that we value more than your con- expressed an intention to return as soon as the frost breaks.
nection, and which we must maintain, even at A steeple chace, between Captain Ross and Littel Gil-
the peril of the loss of that connection.—(Hear, more, Esq., for 5001., which has been the subject of con-
hear, hear.)----The object, therefore, of the versation in all the sporting circles in Melton Mowbray and
present Meeting, was to ascertain whether the its vicinity, was appointed to be run on Monday last; but,
owing to the frost, it was postponed, and is expected to
partnership was to continue. (Loud cries of hear,
hear.) If it were to be dissolved, there would be come
The horses off in this neighbourhood,
to ran
nthe u
nith havennthe m
bee,ontlii ofn
Mar c h
next.
no necessity to mix unkindness or passion with the a
considerable time. The following are some of training
m
i ost
separation ; such a procedure would only tend to
make bad worse, and aid their common enemy, distinguished of the individuals who have left us during the
week : The Right Hon. the Earl of Darlington, the
lie had, however, no fears on that subject. The Right Hon. Lord Harborough, the Right Hon. Lord Al-
British Catholics as a body were as strong in their vanley, the Right Hon. Lord William Paulett, the Right
opinion against securities as their Irish brethren, lion. Lord Forrester, the Hungarian Nobleman (Count
(Tremendous cheers and a few hisses.) He hoped Sandon), the French Nobleman (Count Chattereau), Sir
they would come to an amicable understanding. James Musgrave, Bart., Sir James Boswell, Bert., Sir
(Hear.) If he had been misunderstood he was Francis M‘Kenzie, Captain Ross and Lady, Captain
Garth and Lady Astley, :Major Drummond, Colonel Rus-
anxious to explain, and if a sacrifice of an individual
sell, Major Jenner, Captain Locke, William White, Esq,
must be made, he asked for no mercy at their sell,
Maxse, Esq. and Lionel Stevens, Esq. The Right
residence
and hands, if by so doing they could bring back peace
alltoQn.oothrnedEonarfloorf Sthoeutharensiepitiotntihsonstinhge aits I,isand concord, and advance the interest of their com-
mon cause. He had suffered for it both in purse leave for London daily.P The Right Hon. EarlpHowe is
and person. (Hear.) He disclaimed one preposi- remaining at his seat at Gopsall, Leicestershire, and has
tion that had been made, that he was anxious to put had no less than 13 gentlemen of the hunt staying with
a gentleman upon his trial whom' he honoured as him on a visit. The Earl of Wilton still remains at
much as any of their community—he meant their Grantham, as also the Countess of Wilton.
Secretary (Mr. Blount.) He took that public op- DESTRUCTIVE FIRE.—The utmost alarm
portuni6, of utterly disclaiming any such intention, was produced in Old Fish-street, late last night, in souse-
both on his own part and on those of the Irish quence of a fire having been discovered in the extensive
Catholics whoin he represented. (Hear.) He premises occupied by Messrs. Charles and George Banks,
would now read the first part of the Irish Catholic sugar-refiners. The fire commenced at about eleven
Resolution, viz. " That Mr. 2Eneas Macdonnell do ::::00ek this morning.ck,andburntwith uTnhceo n
conflagrationtroul led f ury
wasuntil about
renderedfi ve
take measures to have the question of conditions
the more active by the prevalence of a strong north-easterly
Eng-
land." That was all the British Catholics had to
brought before the Catholic Association of Eng-
wind, and it was not until the roof of these spacious pre-
do with,
miser fell in, at the hour last mentioned, that the flames
were in the least subdued by the exertions of the firemen
Mr. TIIERRY—I beg leave to ask if Mr. Macdon-
Fears were entertained for the safety of the adjoining pre
_
lion has authority from the Irish Catholic Associa-
rnises for several hours, filled as they were with stocks of
e tion to withdraw the latter part of the resolution, a highly inflammable nature ; Mr. Maughan's distillery
namely—That if that body should not reject the ; being in the rear of the sugar-house, and adjoining the
sentiments expressed by their Secretary, Mr. Blount, latter was a carpenter's. The solid manner in which the
OR the subject, that he do cease all intercourse with walls of the sugar-house were built, confined almost en-
them as our agent ?
( tirely the ravages of the flames within them, and the pre-
Mr. IENEAS MACDONNELL—Do you appear here, rises connectedh church
hhtohfe sugar...house were very materially
znjured.
was Tat
times St.
dialicholas, opposite the sugar-
Sir, as a member of the British Catholic Associa-
in seopar y,. but escaped. An abun-
tion ? lam sure you would not condescend to be home,
dant supply of neer, and the early arrival of all the en-
considered as an Irishman on this occasion.
gines belonging to the different Fire Offices, by keeping
as KERRY (with considerable warmth).—l am up a continued flow of water on the houses in the rear,g
as much an Irishman as you, and as warmly devoted prevented their igniting. On the falling in of the roof,
to the real interests of my country.---(Cries of order, the major part of the front of the premises, which were
hisses, and groans, continued for nearly a quarter of ; very high, were carried with it, leaving the stack of
an hour.)
chinmies standing in the middle of seven stories high, and
Mr. MACDONNELL said, he had not come to offer i which, at the present moment, are vibrating with-each
his opinion, but to ascertain that of the meeting. blast of wind. It was not until half-past ten o'clock that
The uproar now became general, the room beingruin whole hor the damage
n
the side walls fell, although
le night. Fortunately these
the fire had been preying on
crowded almost to suffocation, and there were loud the lower supportsn he
t
the
cries of adjourn to the Hall. No sooner was the ar oag e
moment wou
the
would have e bee
been
adjournment agreed to, than a tremendous rush
stackgreat to ell wit
wields 'walls fell within
houses. Every'expected to fall. 'the stock of middlesugars,
took place towards the door, and we have no doubt
'raw and refined, was almost wholly destroyed, only about
thateveral persons were hurt by being pushed over s
40 hogsheads of the former having been saved. Various
chairs, stools, &c. On our gaining admission to the are the causes assigned for the breaking out of the fire; but
Hall, we found
it is generally admitted that it arose from one of the cop-
Mr.IENEAS MACDONNELL on his legs, and moving pers, in which sugar was undergoing the process of re-
the following Resolution : , fining, boiling over. The stuck and premises are, we
" That in the pursuit of Catholic Emancipation we are told, not by any means, fully insured. No lives were
seek no more than an equality with our Protestant fellow- lost. Such was the intensity of the frost, that the walls
subjects, by a total, unqualified, and unconditional repeal played upon presented a complete surface of ice, and even
of all laws restricting the full enjoyment of civil and reli- the ruins of the sugar-house have icicles in all directions,
gious liberty; that we never have been a party to the ten- which glitter with the rays of the flames beneath. The
der or acceptance of any of the securities or conditions' property consumed is very great.

Mr. BLOUNT entered into a long explanation of the
proceedings of the British Catholic Association, and,'
read extracts from several of his speeches at foi•nier
Meetings, in which he had advocated unqualified
emancipation, at the same time expressing his deter-
mination to listen to any propositions from Govern-
ment.

Mr. Therrv, the Rev. Mr. Macdonnell,Mr. Robin-
son, Mr. French, and several other gentlemen sub-
seqently addressed the meeting.
Mr. E. MACDONNELL replied at considerable
length.

The CHAIRMAN then proceeded to put the ques-
tion, desiring that none but Members of the As-
sociation would hold up their hands.
On examination it was declared that of those
Members entitled to vote, the numbers were as fol-
lows :

Amendment
Original Motion. l7

The fleeting then separated.

PROTESTANT ASCENDANCY.

The public are respectfully informed that Henry Calvely
Cotton, Esq. James Walthall Hammond, Esq. William
Sprout, Esq. Edward Kent, Esq. Mr. Richard Lever-
sage, and Mr. James Broadhurst, are appointed a Com-
mittee for the Hunrl;•ed of Nantwich, to obtain signatures
to the Address to the King, and Petitions to both Houses
of Parliament, against granting further concessions to the
Roman Catholics ; and that such Committee will shortly
wait upon the inhabitants of Nantwich for their signa-
tures accordingly.
Nantwich, Jan. 9, 1829.

N. B.—The first of these worthies is uncle to Lord
Cornbermere without an acre in the county ; he is nearly
a hundred years old. The second is a very young man,
son of a respectable surgeon in Birmingham. The rest
are tradesmen in Nantwich. They have canvassed the
town twice for signatures, assuring their dupes that " if
the Catholics are emancipated they will all be massacred."
They have met with most success among the elderly fe-
males,—probably because such respectable specimens of
the antique recognize in them a congenial order of intellect.

tiEPARTVIIE of the tOltro LIEUTENANT.

(Frem the Times.)
"Dublin, Monday Evening.
" At an early hour this morning the streets were
crowded with persons anxious to manifest their
respect for a Lord Lieutenant who had, under very
peculiar and embarrassing eLcutnstances, gained the
affections of the Irish people, and who was now de-
parting from them (as they felt at least), because
the grounds of that popularity were deemed incon-
sistent with the policy upon which the Duke of Wel-
lington endeavours to promote the peace and pros-
perity of this portion of his Majesty's subjects.
" The Lord Lieutenant feels the blow which has
been struck at him by his Majesty's Government
the more strongly, because it has, at the most criti-
cal moment of his administration of Irish affairs,
broken up the conciliatory and pacific policy upon
which alone his Excellency found it pAsible to con-
duct his government with safety to the kingdom.
He has therefore, at the presentStion of the Ad-
dresses which both yesterday and this day poured
into the Castle from all parts of the country, evinced
a sympathy and sensibility, which have still more
endeared him to the people. He divested himself
of all state ceremony,--he received the gentlemen
from the country, just as they arrived, in their tra-
velling habiliments : his answers to some of them
(the Cork in particular) were extemporaneous, and
marked equally by strong feeling, and propriety of
expression.

" This morning he held an Untlress levee, which
was excessively crowded. The citizens of Dublin
first presented themselves at the Castle at ten
o'clock with the address, which was prepared by
persons of all ranks and religious persuasions, to
testify their respect for the Lord Lieutenant, and
their deep regret upon his departure. In the crowd
which thronged in the avenues of the Castle, were
a number of military officers in full uniform, who ap-
peared extremely anxious to press on with the civic
cortege, to pay their respects to so distinguished and
gallant a member of their profession.
" Upon entering the drawing-room, his Excel-
lency received them standing in front of a semi-circle
of official dignitaries. On his right stood the Lord
Chancellor, and Lord Francis L. Gower ; next them
was Lord Plunkett, the Lord Chief Justice Bushe,
the other Judges, the Attorney and Solicitor Gene-
rals ; but the whisper went round, where is Mr.
Serjeant Lefroy ? Does not his loyalty extend to
pay this mark oircspect to the representative of Ma-
jesty in Ireland ?"I'he Marquis of Anglerea was
dressed in a blue frock coat and white trousers, and
in the most gracious manner received the deputation,
which cons►sted of the following noblemen and
gentlemen :
Duke of Leinster
Earl of Milltoun
Earl of Howth
Earl of Portarlington
Earl of Glengall
Earl of Bective
Earl of Landaff
Viscount Clements
Lord Cloncurry
Lord Clanmorris
Lord Riversdale
Lord Rossmore

Hon. Mr. Preston
Thos. Wyse of Waterford
Wm. S. Tighe, of Wicklow
Colonel Westenra
Mr. Richard Shiel
Peter V. Hoinrighe, M. P.
John Power, of Kilfane
W. Tuite, M. P.
Daniel O'Connell, M. P.
Dominic Brown, Esq., Castle
Magarret
John D. Latouche

Lord Forbes Richard French, Esq.
Lord Killeen Niel. Leader, Esq.
Hon. Robert King John Guthrie, Esq.
Sir John Newport Alderman Smith

Sir Thos. Esnionde H. Arabin, Esq.
Sir Chas. Style Peirce Mahony, Eiri.
Sir Chas. Morgan Colonel Morris
Sir E. Nugent, Alderman And. Ennis, Esq.
Charles Brownlow, Esq. Michael O'Brien, Esq.
J. D. Napper, Esq. James Sinclair, Esq.
Major O'Grady Rich Napier, Esq.
Hon. David Plunkett Dennis O'Conor, Esq.
" The Lord-Lieutenant immediately delivered the
following answer to the address, which was read by
the Rev. Edward Groves, a clergyman of the Estab-
lished Church :
." ' file Noblemen, Gentlemen, Freemen, and In-
habitants of the City of Dublin etiptge my warmest
.gratitude by their address.
. _

"`lt was one of the main objects of my adminis-
tration of the government of this country to lead
the way to an equitable adjustment of all differences,
by showing to all classes of Irishmen, that loyalty to
their. King, obedience to the law, and kindly feeling
and forbearance towards each other, would afford
the surest guarantee that a due attention would be
paid to every other important object attainable by
legal and constitutional means; and I quit the shores
of Ireland with the less regret, inasmuch as I have
seen those views partly accomplished.
" By concurrent testimony, public tranquillity has
been restored—commerce has been revived—indus-
try stimulated—and employment thereby in a con-
siderable degree provided for the labouring classes.
" I therefore most confidently hope that the same
means which have produced these happy results will
continue to be exercised.

" Next to the gratification which this will afford

to me in my retirement, will be the remembrance of
the generous construction put upon my conduct by
the inhabitants of Dublin, and I take my leave of
them with sincere regret; but I do not, and never
can, relinquish the interest I feel in their happiness
and the prosperity of the kingdom and capital of
Ireland.

" At the conclusion his Excellency's voice fal-
tered, and he appeared deeply affected, shedding
tears. He afterwards spoke in friendly and familiar
terms with the Pion. Robert King, M.P. (nephew
of Lord Lorton), Mr. J. D. Latouche and several
other gentlemen, who took leave of him ; and his
Lordship was pleased to say, that he would certainly
take an early opportunity in his private capacity of
paying those visits to his friends in various parts of
that country, which unexpected circumstances ren-
dered it impossible for him to do at the time he had
originally intended.

The levee continued till past 12 o'clock, and
bringing up the rear in the cortege were the Lord
Mayor and Sheriffs, and some of the members of
the corporation. As the levee broke up, the ap-
pearance of the streets became extraordinary. The
soldiers of the garrison were drawn out in single
filet., and reached from the Castle to the point near
Kingstown, where the Marquis of Anglesea em-
barked, a distance of near seven miles. The multi-
tude poured forth along the whole line of road, and
not a hedge or a window was unoccupied. It was
a crowd composed of all classes. The manufac-
turers from the principal parishes bore banners, en-
twined with crape, as a symbol of the injury which
their respective trades sustained by the abrupt re-
moval of so distinguished a patron. Similar em-
blems were exhibited in houses along the road, and
ttl emotion of the people was in_the highest degree
impressive.

" As the clock struck 12, the Marquis of Angle-
sea took his leave of the Castle. When he appeared
in the streets the shouts wefe deafening, and he ap-
peared deeply affected by this unequivocal exhibi-
tion of popular feeling.
" The Marquis rode on a beautiful blood horse,
surrounded by a body of military officers, most of
them wearing Waterloo medals. In front were
Lord Anglesea's two young sons, mounted on po-
nies, and he rode immediately after them; the other
members of his family followed. He took off his
hat in return for the public cheers which resounded
from all sides, and rode smartly through the streets.
In the cavalcade immediately attending upon his
person was a large body of gentlemen on horseback,
and ninety-three carriages, in which were some of '
the principal inhabitants of the city and resident
nobility, who closed this part of the procession.
In Merrion-square as many more carriages joined,
and in all the avenues pouring into the Kingstown.-
road, carriages and equestrians poured in, until the
passages became completely blockaded. There
were above 300 carriages, many of them drawn by
four horses each.

,‘ The streets of Dublin were soon deserted by
their Occupants, and the roads to the harbour pre-
sented one dense mass of persons of all ranks in
every kind of vehicle. Those who remember the
departure of his Majesty from Ireland were struck

with the similarity of the popular enthusiasni now
displayed on the same ground; the Marquis of
Anglesea's cortege having, however, one advantage
—there was less of mere form, and a more decided
commixture of the public in one great congregated
tress. The day was beautiful, and the appearance
of elegantly dressed ladies in carriages and houses
imparted an additional interest to the coup d'wil.
It was at a late hour, as the mail was just starting,
when Lord Anglesea entered his yacht (the Pearl),
accompanied by his brother the Admiral, and the
rest of his family. The harbour was covered with
boats of all kinds, and tire vessels had their co-
lours hoisted. The shouting and parting cheers,
though in so wide an expanse of air, were perfectly
deafening.
" It is right to remark, that the principal shops.
were closed in Dublin upon Lord Anglesea's de-
parture."