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London, England, 1808-02-19 00:00:00

PARLIAMENTARY' PROCEEDINGS.

HOUSE OF LORDS, FEB. 18.

The Earl of ORMON o took the oaths.
A person from the Commissioners of the Thames Navigation
presented an account of the disbursement% for 1507.
A Billfor continuing to his Majesty the dudes on malt, to-
aectaekr- anate!uons, brought aSret time.
The. EUI fat regulating tlz payment fir Bills,
went throtighAbllleemnifftet: •
'flee. Brasil Trade iatlae Bill .for .the better .naming
the Office of Treasons' at diElgavy, were brought up and road's
Ara time. '
Loyd GRENVtLLE elbowed, that when the Brazil bill stupid
be read a second dins. hawmidaddress their Lordsliips at sante
length on it. The twO Wintat6 which he Montt° :peak Wee,
the effect which the importation of sugars from the Brazih
would have 0117aut..Wat Untie Colottib and the 'miner in
which that great nspasare; the Abolition pi the Slave Trade, wasd
likely to be affected by ie changes in the POrtuguese colonies.
• The second fialpti Oflhe.Debtor and Creditor Bill was
froaillabWa.rat to March 4, ones, Motion pith* -Earl
etMoira.i. •

NOTICE.
~.gAR.LISLE 'give 'notice, that he should. on
submit a-motion to the House, re-
eg of the Orders in Council.
!, • ; maces IN REVERSION. • '
Lord LAUDERDALE gave notice that he
could on Monday next, move the second reading of
Reversion Place Bill.
LORD GRENVILLE'S MOTION.
Lord GRENVILLE moved, agreeably to his for-
- notice, for certain documents udatingt# the Or-
. Council. A short triscnssioil toOrplite, 'on
totion for laying before the Heise such informa-
might have been transmitted to Government
respecting the execution of the French Decree; which
Hawkesbury objected to, on•the ground that
immuniCations of private persOns were not such
:uments as could be laid here Parliament.
After some conversation betweenterdsGaaNyttte,
ERSICINE, the Dad 'of Mcisrritose, and the
CHANCELLOR, the House divided,
Contenu 27 • Non-Contents 23
Proxies *O-41 Praries IS-11
Majority fir Lord Grenville', motion-9
DANISH NAVY.
The Order for summoning the Lords having been
iscount SIDMOUTH desired that the Clerk
Id read the Proclamation issued by two Noble
prior to the attackupon Copenhagen, and his
rosty's Declaration:
Both documents having been read short,
Ord SIDMOUTH said, that he rose to submit to
Lordships the motion of which he had already
a notice. The purport of that motion referred
the eventual restoration to Denmark of the vessels
iptured at Copenhages ; he would say, the eventual
toration, for it was poSsible that circumstances
might arise which would render such an arrangement
nracticable. It was not impossible but that Den-
.- might fall as much under the power of France
ty of the Continental State's, in which case no one
td think of advising the restoration of the Danish
; for to restore it to Denmark would be to
it at the disposal of France. In the proposi-
which he had to make, it was far from his inten-
to interfere with that incontrovertible prero.
„ative of his Majesty whieh .pl.aced at his cliiposal
captures ; neither was it kis intention to contravene
- expressed opinion .of that_ Their Lord-
dips, by their votes on the first day of the session, had
recognized the justice of the measure which placed
navy of Denmark in the possession of this coun-
and they had sanctioned and corroborated that
ision by their subsequent vote that no further pa-
, were necessary. He was not, he would repeat,
;posed to contravene these determinations • and in
resolution which he would propose, nothing to
effect would be found. It was so far from being
insistent with them, that he voted in favour of
both ; he should, notwithstanding, be of opinion that
- was not precluded, on the score of consistency, from
aging forward the motion with which he meant to
(elude. Ilse was or.ly acting on the principles of
Majesty's declaration—on the principles of the
proclamation issued by the two Noble Lords who
imanded the expedition against Copenhagen--and
. the principles upon which Ministers justified that
expedition, when he endeavoured to persuade their
Lordships that the honour, the character, and the in-
terests of this country were invOlfed in the eventual
-toration of the Danish navy. Necessity and self-
protection were the grounds upon which the seizure
of the fleet of Denmark was justified. The rejection
an inadmissible offer was assigned as the reason
destroying the capital of a neutral state. We
offered to take the fleet in deposit—an arrangement
which the' Court of Denmark could not posSibly
Isten, with Out compromising its Isonour,and eposing
itself to the resentment of France. To this principle,
conceived, we were in honour bound to adhere--7.
The offer of restoring the Danish navy upon the re-
e4tablishment of peace, was even made a fortnight.
after the declaration or war by die Crown-Prince.—
'lt it might be argued, that that Prince refused to
atify the capitulation acid that by so doing. he had
precluded himself from any advantages -derivable
from tip proclarnatiol of orn; Coullpngultri, Or the
summons previous to the coManenceszient of the bom-
bardment. It was certainly true, at that high-
minded personage refuteato 004 the capitulation ;
:it did it appear tip;
.be acted in any manner- tO
tpede it ? We were, be. world contend, bound to
:t upon that principle up* which we lad set out,
tmely, that of taking theTinish navy in deposit.—
.'o this . idlesabounsibili-onotsi and policy,
than by the strictest interpretation of the law of na-
tions. He would, with the permissionOf their Lord-
ships,.read to them an extract from the ablest writer
on that important subject, and which, thou„gh an ex-
tract, hid tiothing he could assure then; in it which,
was not warranted by the cower= (His Lord Skip
here. read several passages front Crotius, De jsfre be/li
• pads, tending to Support. his argument.) 'A'ke con-
duct of the-Coutfalpetunarklhe contended, could not
be considered as ho'stile.
.The war began from us. We
lett the Crown Prince no alternative but that of war.
—There was another reason which. made him anxious
that their Lordships shOuld'adopt his motion it pre-
sent. Ile, had learned that the Danish ships were or-
dered to be fitted out for the service of this country.—
lie was anxious to prevent so precipitate and impolitic
a measure. The ships, by what he had heard, were
quite unqualified, or at least not. qualified in the man-
tier our ships are, for the wear and tear of our sex,
Tice. To render them so. would require an expence

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