The Sun.
London, England, 1820-08-30 00:00:00

HOP INTELLIGENCE.

SOUTHWARK, AUG. 28.—We have had a dull
Hop trade since our last, with the exception of
two or three pretty good sales, which were made
of bags on Friday and Saturday. Good bags
are scarce, and in those sales which we allude to
an advance in the price was certainly obtained.
—The duty has been done to-day at 72, 75, and
78,0001.

MAIDSTONE, AUG. 48.—The high winds of last
week have caused much destruction in the

Hop grounds both in Kent and Sussex, blow-
ing down the poles and bruising the Hops consi-
derably. The damage is supposed to have affect-
ed the Duty at least 10,0001. The weather al-
together has been exceedingly unfavourable for

Hops ; the bad grounds, where there was fresh
bine,are now gone quite bla.ck and cannot produce
any. The Mailing grounds are allowed to be
much the 'best in this neighbourhood, and a good
half crop is expected there. The Weald of
Kent and Sussex will, it is said, grow more than
was at first imagined.—Duty stated from 70 to
80,0001.

CORN-EXCHANGE, AUG. 30.--Although the
supply of Wheat was small this morning, it was
more than equal to the demand, having but few
buyers at market, and what trifling sales were
made were upon much the same terms as on Mon-
day ;. there have been considerable arrivals of
Oats this week, and for which article the Trade
was heavy at a decline of ls.
,per quarter from
Monday's quotation in Barley, Beans, and Peas
there is alteration.

Yesterday, the Earl of WESTMORELAND gave
a grand dinner, at his house in Grosvenor-square,
to the Duke of Wellington, Duke of Beaufort,
the Lord Chancellor, Earl of Shaftesbury, Lord
Castlereagh, Lord Sidmouth, the Earl of Aber-
deen, Eal 1 of Winchilsea, the Duke of Mon-
trose, &c.

The Earl of SHAFTESBURY gave a Grand Din-
ner on Saturday to his. Royal Highness the Duke
of YORK and a large Party ; and on Monday the
Noble Earl gave another Grand Dinner to a dis-

anguished party of Noblemen and Gentlemen.
WALLACK, who is said to be wonderfully im-
proved since he left Drury-lane Theatre for
America, and JUNIUS BRUTUS BOOTH, are both
engaged at the above house for the ensuing
season.

KEAN, after concluding his present engage-
ment, goes to Liverpool, where he will probably
play a few evenings, and then embarke there for
America.

We were yesterday assured by a Gentleman
just arrived from Paris, that the Police had dis-
covered that a sum of money, equal to three mil-
lions of francs, was circulating in the late con-
spiracy.--(Morning Chronicle.)
Miss FcrEPIIENS commenced her engagement, on
Monday last, at the Edinburgh Theatre, in the
character of Polly in the Beggar's Opera, HORN
is also engaged there, and was the Macheath of
the evening.
A Swedish frigate arrived in Leith Roads a
few days ago, on a cruise, and sailed again on
Tuesday. She has on board upwards of 50 boys,
serving as cadets, and it is for the purpose of
practising them in naval tactics that she has been
sent on a cruise.

PARLIAMENT,

HOUSE OF LORDS, TtiiiDAY,

THE QUEEN.
[Continuation of the Debate of Yesterday.]
Some conversation ensued as to the mode in
, which the question ought to be put, in which the
Earl of LAUDERDALE, Earl GREY, Lord GREN-
VILLE, and the Loan CHANCELLOR took part,
and ' which resulted in the LORD CHANCELLOR
reading the motion of the Earl of LIVERPOOL,
and Lord llmutowny stating, that the amend-
ment he moved was. " That after the word
that,' be inserted that they are at liberty to
cross-examine the witnesses after the examina-
tion in chief, as far as they may think proper,
and that they are also at liberty to recall the
witnesses at any future period, for the purpose of
such further cross-examination as they think
their case may require."
The Earl of LAUDERDALE, 'now that he under-
stood the precise nature of the amendment,
thought the House could not do otherwise than
adopt the original motion. The Noble and
Learned Lord on the Woolsack had stated it as
his decided opinion, that the rule proposed
would be a fatal blow to the administration of
justice : with such an opinion from that great
law authority, the House would not in his opinion
do its duty, if it adopted the amendment without
previously ascertaining the opinion of the Judges
as to the effect it was calculated to produce on
the future administration of justice in the Courts
below. And he accordingly submitted a motion
for the purpose of ascertaining that opinion.—
(No, no ! Hear, hear !)
The Earl of LI VERPOOL did not think that the
rule which this House might adopt for the present
case could at all affect proceedings in the Courts
below.
The Marquis of LANSDOWN concurred in opi-
nion with what had fallen from the Noble Earl
who spoke last. He saw, as indeed all their
Lordships must ere now have seen, the great dif-
ficulties with which they had to contend in the
progress of this cause ; but still he could not
consent to restrict the Counsel for the Queen pn
their cross-examination, considering the igno-
rance in which they were kept respecting the
witnesses. The exercise of that cross-examina-
tion should be vested in the Learned Counsel in
a clear and unfettered manner, not contingent
upon any circumstance. Such opinion made him
approve of the Noble President's amended mo-
tion ; but in doing so he felt all the inconve-
niences that would result to the course of jus-
tice. If, however, his Noble and Learned
Friend persevered in his motion, be certainly,
should deem it his duty to support that proposi-
tion.—(Dear, 0
Lord LAUDERDALE said, he had still a most
important proposition to submit to their Lord-
ships.

The LORD CHANCELLOR then said, he appre-
hended the question now was, whether, iu addi-
tion to the former motion, the words " that is,
that they cross-examine the witnesses now, as far
as they have the means, and that they be suffered
to cross-examine them again, when enabled from
any further knowledge they may acquire," be
added.

After some conversation between Lords Grey,
Lauderdale, Redesdale, Harrowby, Liverpool,
Ellenborough, Grenville, and the Lord Chan-
cellor, as to the- mode in which the question
should be put,
Lord LAUDERDALE rose.-After having ascer-
tained the state of the question, he begged leave
to move that the Judges be asked what would be
the effect of the proposed course in the Courts of
Law, as to the administration of justice.—(No,
No! Order, Order !)—He was not proposing to
ask the Judges what would be the effect of such
a course in Parliament. He only wished to know
what would be the effect of such a course in the
Courts of Law.

Lord LIVERPOOL objected to this question
being put to the Judges ; first, because it did not
bear on the question before the House ; and se-
condly, beortuse the practice of Courts of Law
could not be so strictly assimilated to the practice
of Parliament in this respect. For the express
purpose of this course not being admitted as a
precedent, his Lordship inserted the words,
" under the peculiar circumstances."
Lord REDESDALE objected to the original
Amendment altogether, because he conceived it
to be a course totally inconsistent with justice,
and calculated to prevent the arrival of their
Lordships at truth. These mischiefs were not
the only objections to the proposed Amendment,
for endless confusion would be the result. He
thought it would be highly dangerous to put on
the Journals of the House any innovation of the
general rules founded ou special circumstances.
Cries of cc Question, Question!" now proceed-
ed from all parts of the House.
The original amendment was put as follows
That the Counsel be called in and informed, that under
the special circumstances of the case, the House will consent
to the Counsel for the Queen, proceeding in their cross-exa-
mination of the witnesses in the manner they proposed."
On this Amendment the House divided—
Contents
Non-contents
Majority -15

When strangers Were re-admitted, we found
Lord EasKINE addressing the House. After a
short preface, he moved, that the House do forth-
with adjourn, to afford time for the Queen to
prepare for her defence ; and that a list of the
remaining witnesses against her, and a specifica-
tion of the times and places to which the remain-
ing testimony was to apply, should be furnished
to her. lie apprehended none of the difficulties
would then arise, which had been found to arise

daily, and the case might proceed without any
interruption, for all the witnesses were now here.
Lord LAUDERDALE moved, that the motion of
Lord Erskine, formerly put, should be erased
from the Journals, as inconsistent with the pre-
sent motion.

Lord ERSKINE said he had no objection to
hat.

The LOUD CHANCELLOR spoke to order.

L'rd Erskine's former motion for a list of wit-
nesses was now read from the Journals.
Lord LAUDERDALE remarked, that it was in-
consistent with the Noble Lord's general con-
duet, for him not to have made this motion until
after four hours' debate.
Lord Ensxpvt did not think there was any.in-.
consistency in the line of conduct he had pursued.
He certainly thought the present proposition was
more advantageous -to the Queen than the last .
proposition which had been carried, but that Was
no reason why he should not vote for the last
proposition. He concluded by repeating his
motion.

Earl BATHURST observed, that the present mo-
tion was, in fact, one which had been already
negatived ; and, in his opinion, stronger objec-
tions applied to it now than before. What was
the House asked to do ? Why to stop the prose-
cution now, and give in a list of witnesses, fur-
nishing the means for every libellous Journal to
assail their character, before the period had ex-
pired for which it was proposed the Howe should
adjourn. And he would ask the House, what
security they had on this head after what they
had already seep. This was not the only mis-
chief arising from giving in a list of witnesses, for
even in cases of high treason—the cases where
alone the practice had prevailed, that practice
had been productive of the highest mischief. In
Hardy's case, where the present Lord Chancel-
lor was Counsel, the leading witness, whose
name was in the list, could never be produced on
the trial, and it was believed that he had been
assassinated. On the other hand, a mischief of
a different nature arose. No other witnesses
could be examined but those inserted in the list ;
and in Watson's case, a link in the chain of evi-
dence was wanting, which could have been sup-
plied by a witness discovered after the list was
made up, and because his name was not inserted,
he could not be called. Upon the whole, he
submitted that the object of the new motion
could not be acquiesced in consistently with
justice.

Lord Hor.LANn rose, and after deprecating tha
inconsistent mode in which the debate had been
conducted, and the extraneous matter which
had been introduced, proceeded with con-
siderable earnestness to vindicate the political
conduct of his Noble Friend (Lord Erskine),
and to attack the views expressed by a
Noble Earl opposite, that every acquittal for High
Treason furnished a proof of the inadequacy of
the existing law—a law to which the Noble
Lord declared his belief,' that many of his Ma-
jesty's subjects now owed their lives and the en-
joyments of their properties. The Noble Lord
concluded by saying, he. beheld with pleasure his
Noble and Learned Friend, at an advanced pe-
riod of his life, supporting these principles which
he stood up for in the vigour of youth, with
talent unexampled, and perseverance never ex-
celled.

The Earl of LIMERICK opposed the motion.
Lord CALTRORPE supported it.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said, the House had
gone to the full extent, and his Lordship did not
feel that further delay could be given.
Lord ERSKINE then said, he should take the
sense of the House on the question.
Strangers then withdrew, and a division en-
sued—

For Lord Erskinels Motion
Against it
Majority
The Earl of DARLINGTON proposed that a list
of the witnesses to be examined daily should be
furnished by Counsel. The Noble Earl said,
such an arrangement might expedite the business.
The Earl of Li vEarioor-, objected to the pro-
posal. The examination of witnesses depended
on a variety of circumstances, and Counsel
could not always select the witnesses for exa,
mina tion.

EXAMINATION OF WITNESSES.
The House having come to a decision respect-
ing the question of the Cross-Examination, the
Counsel were ordered to appear, and were in-
formed by
The Loan CHANCELLOR-That the House had
determined that the Counsel for her Majesty-
Were at liberty to cross-examine the witnesses,
immediately after they had been examined ; and
that they would also be permitted to recall the
witnesses for the purpose of again cross-examin-
ing them, if they (the Counsel) should deem it
necessary.