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fall to the ground. in fact, unless they were
prepared to strip the House of all its functions,
unless they were preparedlo-say, 'that no Select
,or General. Committee could precede such as Bill
as the present, ,without incapacitathigthe Com-
mittee or the_Hatise from legislating the Bill, ,
Aliele:Was no wejght in.the„objeclisuis nqied on
the-other sae. the.inquiry.was to-be public,.
and God forbid that it shouldnot, he would ask for
the production of a single instance in which a list of
witnesses was given to the defendant. It might be
proper to postpone the-bearing of the defence, not
merely because it was regnested, but because it
might be necessary, and he was confident every
man.would say, as he should, that the evidence
,must not go on until an opportunity was given to
ascertain the characters of those who were . exa-
mined. This was,a_ case to be.decided by.general
principles, alone, . and he WoUld ask their Lord-
ships whether, if they were to establish such a
precednt now, they could proceed in future in
the sane manner, which their ancestors had done
up, to the present day ? .
The third Resolution was then agreed to, as
Were also five others, in substance as follows
4•- That Counsel should be heard on the second reading in
-support of the Rill. , •
5. That the King's Attorney-General should be informed
oetbis•Roolittion.
e. That the House should be called over at ten o'clocli in
the. nut nin, on the 17th of August.
The LORD CJIANC.P.I.Oft said, on the passing
of this Resolution,
.that it was scarcely neces-:
sary for him to observe, that the Order would.
be
.enforced.
7. That t;‘) Lord should absent himself from the House,
without leave, during the prOgresS of these proceedings.
8 That the Lord Chancellor sbould.be directed to s.nd let-
ters to all absent Lords, to acquaint them that the House. was
to be called over on the 17th a August.
Lord ,ERS"kINE afterwards moved to take the
qUestion for affording a list of the witnesses to
her Majesty into consideration on 'Friday, which
was agreed to.—The House then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

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Mr, BLACKBURN presented Petitions from Bir-
mingham and Manchester, praying for a free
trade.---Laid on the table.
The Irish Tithe Leasing. Bill went through a Committee,
the Report was received, and ordered to be taken into further
consideration this-day-six mouths, and the Bill ordered to be
printed.
The Report of the London Militia Bill was received, and.
the Bill ordered to be recommitted to-Morrow.
SIR WILLIAM MANNERS.
Sir ROBERT HERON stated, that he understood Sir Wm.
Manners had surrendered himself into custody, and that he,
and Hugh Manners and William Atter, had. been in attend-
ance this day-to give evidence. Knotting that the twolatter
witnesses were no longer wanted by the Committee, and find-
ing that in offending as they had done they bail acted under
orders, and not front their own impulse and authority, he
thought that they were fit objects for the lenity of ;he House.
Armstrong Jars-is had already been sent to lewgate, and he
believed that he should shanty have to present a Petitient
from that individual, throwing himself upon the commisera-
tion of the House. On the subject of Sir Wm. Manners, it was
not-his intention to make a motion. •He should only move,
that the Order of-the Day. commanding the attendance of
Hugh Manners and Atter, be read and discharged,---
Agreed to. •
The order having been read and discharged,
Mr. WYNNE moved, that Sir William Manners having ab-
sconded- to avoid'being taken into custody pursuant to the
Order of the House, be, fur the said offence, committed to his
Majesty's Goal of Newg,ate, and that the:Speaker du issue his
warrant accordingly.
•Sir JAMES-GRA:HAM contended, that it appeared from
the evidence givers That Sir W. Manners had left Buclintinster
before the subject bad begun to be discussed in that House.
It Was therefore impossible that he•shduld'have absconded in
:order to avoid paying obedience to the -Speaker's. Warrant.
On that ground he moved in amendment, that the Order of
the Day commanding his attendance he read fur the purpose
of being discharged. - •
Dr. PHILLIMORE opposed the amendment.. The Rouse-
had punished the servant of Sir W. Manners for obeying the
orders of his master. Would it be just to ailitsv the individual
who bad given. there orders to be.discharged without any vi-
sitation for his offence?
After a' desultory conversation, in which Mr. Tennyson,
the Speaker, Sir 11, Heron, Col. Wood, and 'Mr. Calcraft.touk
pint, the Amendment was put and negatived.
Oir the original ipiestion being put,
Mr. WII.OTPESL•EY suggested, tltat as there was no proof
before the House of Sir William Manners having abssouded,
whilst it was clear, On the contrary, that he had acted in de-
fiance of its orders, words to that effect should he inseiled in
the Resolution, instead of those—" having absconded."
Sir J. MACKINTOSH reminded the House that.on Satur-
day !wit they hail unaniinously come to a resolution, declar-
ingi4that it appeared to that House, that Sir William Man-
ner had absconded to avoid, ' &c. This resolution was adopt 7
ed; after hearing•the evidence read by the short-hand. writer,
and that given•by the Messenger at the Bar. He therefore
did nut see how it was possible to alter the, wording of .t he Re-
solution now proposed by lilt Hon. Friend.
The original motion for cOmmittiug Sir William Manners
to Neygate was then put and agreed to..
POTTERIES.
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Mr. LITTLETON presented a Petition front the Master
Manufacturers of Potteries in Staffordshire, praying for the
remoial of the Union Duty of (0 per cent.. on the produce of
their manufactures when inqorted
.into, Ireland. He took
this opportunity of stating, that on the third reading of the
Bill he should pnipose, that the words " Potterios," be
erased. Tbe.Petition was then laid on the table, and ordered
to be printed.
The Offences on the High Seas Bill was read a second
time, after a few words from Sir J. Mackintosh, Sir W. Scott,
and Sir J. Coffin.—Ordercd to be co►omitted on Wednesday

The Irish Poor Removal Bill was read a second time
Ordered to be committed on Wednesday next, atter a few ob-
s►•rcatiohis frOM Mr. Win. Parnell, Sir J. Newport, Sir J.
Yorke, Harbord, and Mr. C. Grant.
BANK NOTES.

_Colonel DAVIES presented a Petition. from Mr. Richard
Williamson, an eminent engraver; complaining that his plan
had been infringed on in the construction of the new Bank-
mote.—Ordered to lie on the table.
Colonel DAVIES seeing an flungurahie.Gentleman in his
.
place, inquired what were the duties attached to the situation
of Geneial Officer of Artillery in Ireland.
Mr. It. WARD maintained that such an .appointment was
necessary.

OPT HALMIC CURES.
Mr. G. BENNET moved for a return of the number of sol-
diers receiving pensions In consideration of blindness.
Sir T. ACLAND said, that be should wish to be informed
Ay the Noble Lord (Palmeritou) whether many persons had
not received pensions tar life, as blind, who were afterwards
cured by Sir W. Adams.
Mr. BENNIU said there might be one or two cases Oa
complete cure, but he. did not believe there were Many. He
was ready to admit" the skill and success of Sir W. Adams;
but, although relief rmght be given.by operations on the retina
of the eye, it iould nut be called a perfect cure.
Lord PALllErtsTos said, that the .observations. made by
the Hon. Gentleman opposite were such as he should, have
petted from his candour. There were indred cases_ in which
benefit was experienced to such azi extent; I hat if it hail been
conferred before the pension had been gien, it would have
made a considerable alteration in the decision of the. Chelsea
Board:

Sir JOSEPH YORKE contended, that too much stress bad
been laid em Sir W. Adam'ssuccess. Sir. W. Adams, it should
be recollected, had selected those who appeared roost likely to
be cared.

Mr: BARHAM said, that those cured by Sir %V. Adams
had been pronounced, incurable.
Mr. BENNEI' thought that the word " relief" would ex-
press the real character of the case more adequately than the
word " cure."
Mr. C. HUTCHINSON spoke in favour of Sir W. Adams's
success.—The rkurn was ordered. •
IMPORTS OF %VINES AND SPIRITS.
Mr. RICARDO moved fur a return of the number of gal-