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London, England, 1827-05-04 00:00:00

any measure touching the Catholic Association, suppose it !
should continue, in what a situation will they be placed ?
It is a fact—one of the curious events of the day—that
these two Learned Gentlemen Nave both presented them-
selves as Candidates to Represent the same University .
(Cambridge), professing to differ essentially from each
other on this question, and founding their claims to support
respectively on that very difference.—(Cheers.)—These
circumstances are so strange—so extraordinary, that it is
not by the sarcasms and joke of the lion. and Learned
Gentleman (Mr. Brougham) the public can be reconciled
to them. But, above all, when I recollect the motion
brought forward a few weeks ago by the Honourable
Member for Armagh (Mr. Brownlow), from. the very
place, I believe, where I am now standing—which mo-
tion, deeply affecting the official character of Lord
Manners, was supported by the Honourable Member
for Limerick (Mr. Spring Rice), who took the op-
portunity of repeating his conviction, that " all the evils of
Ireland were attendant upon that absurd state of things in
which a Protestant Lord Chancellor was conjoined with a
Catholic Lord Lieutenant in the Government of that coun-
try," how shall I now express my surprise, when I hear
that the first act of the new Administration has been to
prevail on the Lord Chancellor of Ireland to revoke his
known intention of retiring from office ?—(Hear, hear.)—
With these facts before me, I say, that the union of the
Whigs with the new Administration is an extraordinary
coincidence.—(Cheers.)—This is not an occasion on which
I can be expected to give expression more fully to my
opinions ; but as my votes on many questions that will
come before me must depend on the degree of confi-
dence I possess in the Administration,—(Hear, hear)—l
feel entitled to call upon them to state what are the con-
,litions on which it has been formed, particularly with re-

ard to Parliamentary Reform and the Established Church.
see that the Member for Montrose (Mr. Hume) yeste_r-

lay postponed his motion respecting the Church of Ire-
land, avowing as his reason for so doing that he had full
confidence in the intentions of the new Ministey, though I
believe, from 'no bottom of my heart, that he will find he
is mistaken in his expectation of support from my Right
lion. Friend (Mr. Canning), who, I believe, will man-
fully defend the Church against all his attacks. But when
hear the Hon. Member for Montrose publicly state such
a reason for postponing his motion, I must pause before I
Tive any vote of mere confidence to the present Admini-
itration, till I know what are the principles on which it is
founded, as to Parliamentary Reform and the other great
Oestions of equal importance; whether they are to be open,
like the Catholic Question, to free discussion by every
?;ember of • Administration, or whether those who are
called by the honoured name of Whigs are prepared to op-
pose them when they may be brought forward? The
Right Hon. Gentleman was greeted by loud cheers on re-
siiming his seat.
Sir F. BURDETT instantly rose to address the House,
but gave way to
Mr. BROUGHAM, who wished to explain a passage

in, his speech, which had been misunderstood by the Right
Hon. Gentleman ; who, he began by remarking, had not
attempted to answer any one argument he had used
(Cries of spoke, spoke ! order !)
An honourable MEMBER on the Opposition side,
;pose name we do not know, rose to order. He objected
to, any repetition of what the Honourable and Learned
Gentleman had already said. _ _ _

Mr. BROUGHAM assured the Honourable Gentleman
that he was not going to say it again. He had said it once,
and that was enough for him, as well as for the Honour-
able Gentleman.—(A laugh.)—He rose to expla'n a mis-
apprehension of the Right Honourable Gentleman (Mr.
Peel), who had supposed him to impute the quality of fac-
tiousness to the mere common act of asking questions cal-
culated to annoy the Government. Now, in fact, he (Mr..
3rougham) had said nothing that warranted that construe-
ti4n. He did not represent that practice as indicative of
faction, or even impropriety. But he had said that it did
!o41( something like faction, that when one Honourable
Gentleman had opened a motion, another should interpose
with another motion and debate, though not for a factious
ruirpose.
Sir F. BURDETT then proceeded—Though, Sir, the
Right Hon. Gentleman has not attempted to answer any
one of my Hon. and Learned Friend's arguments, he has
thought fit to bring forward a variety of insinuations and
personal allusions, and groundless charges of inconsistency
and want of principle, neither to be maintained by reason
it justice, nor in any degree warranted or called for by the
occasion,—(Hear, hear.)—l must confess that the soreness
of the Right Hon. Gentleman shows—notwithstanding the
apparently fair and general professions which he has in this
place made, and in which Le has denied that he partici-
pates in the bitter feelings of some of those who are opposed
to the Government—that he is, nevertheless, inoculated

with the virulence of the same spirit; or be would not so
4uddenly have forgotten the manly line of conduct within
which he has, up to this time, confined himself. I did not
think that the Right Hon. Gentleman was called on for any
justification at all. If, on one consideration, he felt bound
to resign his situation, I know of no Constitutional prin-
ciple that could be injured by his so doing.—(Hear.)--He
has, therefore, only succeeded in proving what nobody dis-
puted, and in defending himself from accusations which
nobody bad made against him.—(Hear, hear. )--But while
he now loses that view of his position, and converts into
to attack on the conduct of others what was in the first
instance only a justification of himself, he must be made to
feel how that attack recoils upon its author.—(Cheers.)—ln
reply, I will tell him, that every word he uttered in his
own defence was a complete justification of all those who
have acted with me on the present occasion ; for, either he
had no reason to withdraw from the Administration, or
we had ample reason to give our sapport to it.—(Hear,hear. )
I will allow him the full benefit oEhis principles; and
on precisely the same ground, though with an opposite
view, I have stood in maintaining, defending, and pro-
moting my own. The Right Hon. Gentleman has
talkea a great deal respecting Whigs and Tories. lam nei-
ther one nor the other. In fact, the terms have now no
meaning. They are no longer applicable to the circum-
stances of the country. Though they might be somewhat
convenient to indicate the distinction of opposite parties, it
would-be well if, for the sake of clearness and precision, the
use of il,:ern were discontinued. The Right Hon. Gentle-
man, I believe, .foes not reckon himself a Whig ; lie aspires
to the higher honour of being accounted a Tory. For my
part. I class myself simply as English subject, ready at
all times to maintain the principles of the gonttitution, and
happy in en opportunity to show that the piofess:,ons I
made under other circumstances I am now prepared to
fulfil.—(Hear, hear.)—l feel it my duty to support the
Crown in the just exercise of its prerogative, against
any factious band who may, by any concerted design, think
to put it in a dilemma, and compel it again to accept their
services.--(Louti cheers.)--,The prerogative of the Crown
has been exercised in the present case, according to my
opinion, in a most fortunate manner for the benefit of the
country._(Cheers.)—lt was not my intention to have
introdueed any hostility of feeling into this debate, o: to
invite any expression of anger, still less of animosity. I
did hope, that with the candour which he has always pro •
teased, and with that discretion which has usually at-
tended hint, but from which he has egreg;ossly departed
en this occasion, he would not have dealt out insiimaticsis
respecting the condues of others, which he must have foreseen .
would be repelled with equal warmth. I tell him again,
that as far as they are intended to apply to me, they have
not the slightest foundation in reason or justice—(Cheers.)
What object of private interest can I have in view' Who,
give me lease to ask, can impute any sinister design to me?
The Right Hon. Gentleman, notwithstanding all his pro-
fessed cheerfulness in retiring from office, would, however,
appear, fsom what he has said on the former and present
occasions, an Bonsidering what his Hon. Friend the late
Linder Secretary op pssitz (Mr. G. Dawson), to have with-
drpwn as reluctantly froniofilce a; if he were leaving the
" Warm precincts of the cheerfsl day."
If the course {surmised by the Right Hon. Gentleman was
not absolutely irregular, it was undoubtedly not fair ; and
particularly unfair, when be a-et out by a promise to
adhere to the question before the Chair, and not to enter
upon the discussion the topics on which subsequently he
had exclusively expatiated.—(Hear, hear.) This conduct
certainly seems to he something like casting
A longing, lingering look behind."
—(Cheers.) The Right Hon. Gentleman best knows his
own motives ; and he has stated positively, that he and
his late colleagues retired together, without any concert.—
The
fact, no doubt, therefore, was so ; but if there was
no actual concert, there unquestionably was a kind of
sympathetic concert.—(Laughter, and cries of "No, no.")
The Ftiglit Hon. Gent. has founded several of his insi-
nuations on what re calls "extraordinary coincidences."—
Now I cannot help reinarkieg, notwithstanding the de-
clarations of the Right Hon. Gentleman, that there was an
extraordinary concurrence of resignations in an eitraor-
dinar). mantier.—_-(Cheers.) Whether it was intended to
intimidate the King, is put him in a dilemma, as I said
before, which would compel bun gain to call back the
retiring 3!inisters,—(Cries of "No, no"), I aasnot now
positively dectsre ; hut that certainly would be my opinion,
if it were not for the aireei: declaration of the Right Rum.
Gentleman to the contrary. When I look at all
the circumstances of these resignations, i cannot avoid
suspecting that they originated in an' attempt un-
justly to fetter the exercise of the prerogatives of the Crown
-(Cheers.)—lf, I repeat, the Right Hon. Gentleman had
not asserted the reverse, and I was guided only by the ap-
t' parpt facts of the case, that would be the natural and in-