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where was &again i at that time ?=- `or the most part nn.the
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, •witness dosed the tent, leaving them so ?—Yes.
what position was Bergami in, when witness saw him On
Dt small bed ?—Lying on his back•
id the Princess seellergami so lying ?—Yes.
1141 time Princess tithe the bath at any time?—Yes.
More than once I—Yes.
•I,es,
13° You remember her going below on such occasions ?
• Who went below with her?—Bergami.
Da
alI these occasions. did mi go below with tier
a". 41 Highness I—Yes ; and in all operations.
()n occasions which rendered it necessary for the Princess
s'„°;,tlu,helow, did Bergami go with her I—Yes ;- he went down
"o her when she went to the water-closet.
velsor whateer purpose the Princess went below, was she or
4sti'she not accompanied by Bergami I—She was.
ve-:-as lie at any time seenßerganai sitting on the deck 1—
"as he ever seen the Princess with him upon those occa-
-.luns have seen Bergami sitting on a gun, and the Prin-
te6s sitting, on his knees, kissing each other.
, this kissing been only once, or istore than once?—
?re than once been
only
shChen the Princess walked, whose arm did she take, or did
• take the arm of any one, and if so, whose I—The Prin-
When walking, took the left arm of Bergand for the
-dways—for I. have never seen her take the arm
''-t;',3" one else.
.la' the witness, enring the voyage, seen any joke or tricks
• -,-ed Ber'•aMi?.--I have.
I Cattiv,he ever see this iii the presence of the Princess ?—Yes,
9eseribe what it is to which you allude?-.-I have seen hint
„.
iee under the. Grecian robes he had on, put pillows and
i,4tbi"as, and make sonic motions to make her Royal High-
-et, laugh,
~t,lVliere were those cushions placed ?—Down his stomach.
'e witness made a motion with his hand.)
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,-e aoimcor General--Below his stomach ?—Yes.
cots the witness know what that was to represent ?
. Mr, Williams objected to the opinion of the witness be•
thg
t. take, House •• to infer from facts, nut the
"itoe, • •e were.
I° wire Lord Chancellor--If the witness says he does know,
TintaY follow that by a (lacono°.
1,„ "e question repeated.—lt was sonic tricks to make us all
41', as well as her R Highness.
Hialiness.
he•Solicitur•GeneralLThat is not the answer. Repeat
mt„ (Pmestion.—Does he know what those cushions were meant
l'efiresent I—As far as 1 know, it was buffoonery.
pilttre this tent was erected on the deck, where was the
liit,eess in the habit of dioing?—Ljnder the Sallie tent.
Gr
" usually ed with the Prcess uuder the tent 1—
1)-411Y Bergami ; always Bergain mi.
other these two persons generally dine alone or with some
• i,Person I—Sometimes alone, sometimes with William,
'Cat was. reputed to be her Royal Highness's son.
Tre "ui (lid her Royal Highness call William either in her
▪ riteace or when he was absent?-,Stine called him William,
11-:,,s called bins Prince and sometimes have suer' her Royal
Zu Whe,s give him some token of affection as a mother dears
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time time Bergami and her Royal Highness slept on
eckd.
-in the oight, where did the little Victoritia sleep 1—
11.43,,t,'•"'al called 'the maid's was far two maids, so When her
nese; highness went to sleep on deck, one of her Royal High-
t, sle rhaids weft. to sleep ill her room, and Victorina went
wenin the same room with her.
All 4s this the same loom under the deck to which you before
' • —Yes.
ton„ Ynu remember the Christian name of Bergamo.' ?—Bar-
loint You recollect any thing which took place on St. BarthO-
eorai,';'' Die, on hoard ?—I remember being at Syracuse,
sal K frau; the Holy Land ;un that night there was a gene-
tlrui;lth"i"ation in the ship. Bergami made the crew all
tt't• ihki 41)41 gave them a dollar a piece; and when they were
►the sailors shouted Long live the Princess 1"
%tillg:1 we the Chevalier
1"
et,lie this was going on, were the Princess and Bergami
tke aer ?—fierganii was walking on the deck, applauding
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tho
ors• The Princess was sitting on the deck..
tart„, )(nt remember the Princess walking that night I—l re-
lu.)er her walking.
nt, whomnl—With Bergami.
%that way ?—Arin in arm.
••••I`t you remember seeing Bergami embark at Terracina.?
ism,,rentember seeing him embark in the launch, and saw the
come back cm py.
..‘t°w loag, was he away 1-1-1 was absent there days.
wl*h,tt time did he retorn I—e During the nigbt.
tviies the Princess on board at the time?—Yes.
"e did Ber4aini go on his arrival I—The Princess went
11,entet him at the top of the ladder, and they both together
e
uad
„ the tent.
he teat afterwards dosed ?—Yes.
remain under the tent all night ?—Yes.
or„ nes, go to Jaffa or on any part of the land lour-
-144 ° saw tire Princess mount, and then he went o n
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-I*.de e —ergami came back had be any new order I—The
Co
Aof, this Holy•Sepulehre.
-`l44e- tither 1-04 huard, the Order of St. 'Caroline was
bo; and lie. was one.
l'
atigs,'\!;e know what raniik Bergami held in that Order ?
AA I,lster of the Order.
.--
Ilerta, ?holier he has ever in Italy been examined by any
Yet 4 , "'Welling the conduct of the Princess on this voyage .
At
b hat
P Ice • —At
Milan.
re m e know the name of the Genteman by whom, or he-
Wll°ll, he •uas examined I—The Advocate Ditna-Cardo.
WV," was it t—ln December last year.
i-)ia'ite did he go after that I—To Naples.
,Y. 4, 'l) go about his own affairs I—Yes. _
c`.l:2letlexv4.ftetrwards applied to to come here ?,--.He.ma.s.
14-‘l4, is lie so applied tol—On the Ist or Juin.. gace
srhitie'-ate of two physicians to excuse my going, lila the
de •c,)amianded me, and caused a letter to be sent from
" !ent "'ter of Foreign Affairs, Castdcicala, who nude the
sider
);(41 of nr• Wf AIIS (wide some Objections to the examina-
. • • • t • Ur 1). C-
It lieSS on those points as nrygn,,si. is o je
'ftilitTiing admitted by the t ourt, he proceeded to cross-exa-
lt witness as follows:

4-1 CROSS-LXAMINED.
~tlit did he leave his ship to come • here ?-1. have left
kt.,CtT hnd have given myself to trade; so that my ship
me own account ; and that was the saute ship
•br Cit,,t riled her Royal Highness, and is now commanded
'Ph' ant Ciacanni Vataluzzi ?
tn. if 1
understand him right, he is part owner, and not
'*4t "Übe vessel ?-IVhen he., came here he was halt-
"the.cas,o
is ere was I b •• that he when he set out for England ?—At Naples.
Illsbias
native town ?—Naples is his native town, but he
at Piano Loretto on the coast.
.111,"51 apon'
- . ••eri to you to emu, here, when you were at Naples ?
ttl-,4:t..e,r sent a messenger to find me, because I had CUM-
-41 4,1 s at Naples.
\VI you 5,
A tEtt , e the Minister ?—Yes.
as his name )—Sir Acoutt, the English
1)440r.
1,4-10;1)1,0euPhsro.Tis,e you-any money ?—Yes.
Vit,„,-,....b-'ern‘c any agreement as to the price you were to
s„"tlg wi„lng the five days that 1 was at Naples, einlea-
ti,:4la.,,eit the Minister not to conic, I told hint all my cir-
-1141',,411,,,,,, bot the Minister being- convinced of my, ;itua-
I voadmst ed to_ receive 1,000 dollars per month t but I
'oldt at itprearlY 4,00Q1 dollars. The cargo, I sent to be
M w gio,
as not, sold at the price it ought to
Lave
Ask,the,--.',„10,5, I have advanced money at Manfredetna to
•,-;trgo mid tinemployed•
t(„isk in:dersiaiiik English ?—No.
t're, re has hero iu England
t.tiviitir..evsel;,yente:triegniiit ccu before
was
once
‘ti• here before?—Only once before the present
-"eired • •money down, or is it in expectan-
-1 'tve're L") • advance • t Milan.
th„s Iced one month in a •
:(',!dl him to say ~o lunge, went ,50:11.the
htt; want to k-now it Is the Captain appoint-
-14444 vunld not gu without you ?--. My Captain can go
ah tort
If 'ern. . he receives his orders from me, but when
jit, , at his own discretion.
. (I
—V
• I I same as if von were
tl►ritch.s __II., you, %%ntic. not t
514;ge my ship at Man treda gou,g to tieg;iu to
has arg". Atter I arrived here, 1 nave that
if
..s,bid her cargo at 10 sous less per bushel than I
li4°el; is equiva';',lt. to 25 pence liul4.i."'
li, hot coins. to England dues be mean to say that
„sre wow r"old have nia'de mi:re pridilable voyage—thist
foe t: hare been any difi''crence i o the sale of the cargo?
Illtied fne, had I not set out. fur England I should have
he le 4f c"olMercial ,Males, fur 1 lelt me country at the
Itl to lhirvest. • And's' ecd'iltsid adranceii money at Man-
Vi t'),4 of rzt)(;'Yand w'•ould hate gained so much towards
ett4, Ukdollars, which I sustailied ill the year I S.IS. !tit how • spoken
yoylve—explitin, it you
t• tilt% (,),,"ur cum' t Y:is • • • • s to
Prr fir -0 Ligiand makes any (Illielenct.
51 mat v.yag, ?—Yes, 1 had ordered the
,0 sell the corn fur less than i 4 carlinis per

btishet ; but the Captairi) as soon as ha arrived kt It gglu, and
heard that I was gone away, has taken upon himself to sell the
cargo at 21 carlini per bushel; and after my arrival here I
have heard that the pricy of corn is raised to 26 carlini, and
now nearly to 30.

Does he mean to say, that his presence in Italy would affect
the price of corn.—(Order, order !)
Mr. WILLImus assured the House that he was proceeding
according to the rigid practice of the Courts where the
Judges of the land presided ; their LordshipS therefore must
excuse him if he did not quite understand the cause of the
disapprobation then expressed.
The Marquis of DowNstritte earnestly entreated their
Lordships to consider that the present Lase was one which
involved, in the highest degree, the dignity and honour of the
House, and of the country; and he trusted their Lordships
would excuse him if Ile suggested that the proceedings ought
to be marked by the strictest attention to the evidence 'on
both sides.—(Hear!)
Earl of LivEttPoor, entirely concurred its the senti-
ment expressed by the Noble Marquis, and thought that it
would be better fur Noble Lords to state any objection that
might occur, rather than to join in a general sentiment of
disapprobation. He felt the didiculty of restraint with those
who were unacquainted with official-proceedings. He thought
it would be better to keep as great a command as possible
over their feelings.
Mr. WILLIAMS resumed—l wish to know how your being
absent caused the Captain to fail in his orders ?—He would
not have been disobedient if I had been present. and besides
he made himself be deceived by others. He disobeyed toy
orders hs soon as he knew I was set out. I should have fore-
seen losses.

When you made the bargain for 1000 dollars a month, did
you anticipate what has happened since ?—I have foreseen an
evil ; and did not -wish to come on account of my health and
oil account of my interest.
How far is it from Reggio to Naples ?—lt is 170 miles
direct, and by a'circuitons road :300.
Where did yOu see Gaetano Paturzo last?—Here in London
the last time.
I ask as to time, not place ?—Two days ago.

You (144 not see him yesterday ?—I have not seen him be-
fore 1 saw him here, for 13 months.

That is not the question, I want to know the day, the hour,
and the minute ?—Last night we sopped together, and slept
iu adjoi:hing rooms.
Did you breakfast with hira this morning ?—I took coffee
with hiu► this 'Horning. _ .

Did Paturzo know what he was to say here to-day ?—I don't
know what he was to say, nor did lie tell me what he was to say.
Did you inquire what Paturzo bad said yesteiday ?—I
did not.
1-lave you been in this room before ?—Yes.
When ?—On Saturday.

I'i.'hocaine;ill;;;;;..?---A Gentleman, who showed me the
curiosities; the room where the coronation is to he held.

Was it an English Gentleman ?-1 du not know his name;
I know his person.
How oaten hale you seen him?—l have seen him several

Since you arrived in England ?—Yes.
•
When did you arrive ?—On the 14th instant.
Where was you examined ?—.At
Have you been examined since you cache to England ?
Yes.

Who examined you ?—The Major-domo who showed me
this house.

Here the witness turned round, and pointed to the person
who conducted him to the House on Saturday.

Who brought you from Naples ?—A King's messenger.
Whu paid your expellees ?—The King's messenger.
Who examined you at Milan ?—Colonel Brown and Vicar-
micate."

Have you seen your examination since ?—I have not.
lie-examined b,2.1 the SOLICITOR-GENERAL.

According to the best judgment you can form is the stun
you are to receive more or less than a fair compensation for
your journey to England ?—Acem 'ling. to the success of my
trade this year, it is nut so much as I mlght.have by my. busi-
ness.

This IVitness's examination by Counsel being conclnded,
Lord Lir ILRPOOL said, it should be arranged that every
Peer who questioned a witness should finish before he sat
down.
GREY.—What were you paid by the Princess during
the time your vessel was in her. service ?-759 dollars a illunth
and part of my expences.
You have said that Bergami and the Princess -were shut up
under the tent; were there any .persons walking upon the
deck ?—No.

How do you know that Bergami remained under the tent
all night ? —Because it was shut.
Did you see Bergami any where else at night ?—No.
Was there any way ftom the tent, except from the en-
trance ?—One, by a ladder up to the dining room.
Could Beigami•go up time without you-seeing him?—The
place was small ;, he might.
Lord EI;LENBOHOUGII—Was there any bed made in the
dining roomtorßeigami?—Never. Once I remember it was
bad weather; and Bergami Went' below.
When bad. weather caused Bergami to go below, did the
Priocess go likewise'?--•-Yes; in the cabin.
• Lord AUCKLAND—Did• the a,month cover all
subjects ?-1 have a great deal upon this particular ; 750 dol-
lars is very low•; much too low. 1-agreed tieilia: price as a
certainty; but when one takes Royal persons on board, we
trust more to oncertoin than certain profits. Upon these
uncertain profits I have been disappointed. The English
Government knows' that 1 have made application ; but that
Eliglish Government knows it is that I am what 1 am.
What is the expence of navigating such a vessel by the
month taking in all the pay of ti7e'otticers and the men ?—My•
crew consisted of 22 hands; these persons, taking one with
another at 20 dollars a month, make 200 dollars, and I . re-
quired as much as the pay to support the men, that year being
very sieril, and the wearing was eicptinsire, and a Royal per-
son being on hoard,. it was necessary to keep all things in
high order, and taking into consideration what the vessel cost
me (10,000. dollars), and the insurance, which is one per
cent. you will find there is nothing left out of the 750 dollars.
Marquess LA'NSDOWN.—You lbsing by the voyage, I wish to
know it you applied to her Royal Highness or any other per-
son for compensation for this loss ?-1 did not make applica-
tion to her Royal Highness. We went to Sicily. Bergami,
on landing, did not make me the 6000 dollars present which
he had promised me, because I would not take him and the
suite to Venice. I sent a memorial to my Consul at Tunis,
to be sent the English Government, and when 1 came to
England, 'last year, I applied to the English Governmeut for
the oresent, and on account of my application to the Eng-
lish -Government, the English Government knew that I was
the person who took her Royal Highness on the voyage. -
Did you ever tell your. Mate to go away from the deck when
her Royal Highness and Bergami were present?-1 do not
remember. • • • •

If you had ordered him away, should you not have rcn►em-
bergd it?—l do remember on one occasion, that wben.Ber-
gaitii- was on the bed, and the Princess was leaning upon it,
I told Guatii Paturzo to go away, because it was not proper
for a young man to :wait.
Were there any other persons present when yon ordered
Paturzo to go away ?—I ordered u►y crew away ; but the
Count Schavini always-remained by her Royal flightless to
receive her commands.

A Peer—When the tent was shut, had you.the means of
knowing whether Victorina was in it or nut ?—I cannot say
whether or not.

Was. the hatchway open or shut in the morning, which led
from the tent to the dining room ?—I cannot say; it was ge-
nerally shut in the morning.
Have you received any money from .the British Govern-
ment, or from any other source in consequence of your me-
morial being presented to Count Lodi ff ?—No. Col. Brown
and the Consul said, when 1 came to London I might do the
best 1 could in that particular.
Lord I)osoUGH:IORE—Did you ever see the Princess and
Bergami sitting on a gun together ?—yes. •
111 what situation I—Bergami on the gun, and the Princess
on his knee.
Lord LaunettnaLe—WitneSs has said that lie received a
certificate from the Princess of Isis conduct when she disem-
barked. He wished the witness to put it in.
Witness put the document in. it was dated the 10th Octo-
ber, 1816. It was read. . •
Lord LAUDERDALE—Witness has said that when the Prin-
cess was leaninL, upon the bed of Bergami, he ordered the last
witness to withdraw. I wish to know it the curtains of the
tent were ordered to be put down at that time. and if witness
put them down ?—lt did not happen only that time.
Did Count Sehavini walk about the deck during the time ?
—He walked towards the poop and down to the cabin.
Mr. Wr-Luams—l wish the witness to say if he went to the
dining-room any night ?—No, that was not the place for me:
of Order, order.')