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London, England, 1808-05-06 00:00:00

tea. He conjured ti4g Tiouse to consldar die
of Ireland. There we•re Many. Gentlemen who,
at their seats in that country,were surroundedby
.-stsll Catholics; and was it.ntat ormoreimportance
.uth Catholics should b imtructed by Priests
well educated, and attached by gratitude
were.
":Goerinnent, than by those of a different descrip-
' ) Was it to he wished that the persons who had
;epee over this peasantry should be educated at
crise. Salamanca. or in slick.rt receive little or no cdtt-
' w
) To abolish the means of instruction as in
,tical •
oen an inlet to superstition anti illusion.
f.ict lo °r- •
,410,11,.BERFORCE felt great Tian oat' delicacy in opposing
f the latter sum ; hin_he thou rut it wrong to educate
611it't o eof the State, a sitpee abundant Catholic Priesthood,
ae ettenc
of other employment, would he constantly b-
rae far want
to make converts frnm the Established Religion. lie
ed 'I language teadu g h. excite peejudice and dissen-
Wit 4'
tea MILTON wished the Honourable Gentleman who spoke
:t ken he deprecated every thing that could excite prejudice,
it' ware his °Neu langtrare :led entoact when he opposed
_ad 3 fair opportunity of enrolmelnt to the Dissenters from
Church, wichirg to fight the battles of the coon-
P.:Established Cn•
• The Honourable Gentleman would thus perhaps feel that
bed thrown an impediment in the way of raising that
e which he recommended to the Chancelloof thr of the Ex-
P;;21,17ct0 levy. rhe Noble, Lord spoke in favour e larger
ft LAING thought this a glorious opportunity to unite all
amts. in Ireland, at a very small expen tee
T."
t.HFRI3F.RT (ef Kerry) condemned the curtailment of the
Ili, as roost impolitic.
lad poR • • CHI STIR remarked on the single state in which
Minister (Mr. Percee al) stood t and on the Honourable Gen-
'loan behind (Mr. VI: ilberforce) identify int himself with him,
Per wire the term us ; and alluded to the pove eritil inEuence that
sae everted to defeat the se ishea of the people of Ireland. lie
ndicukd the absurdity of lie ping to make converts by promo-
ignoraece, when the Reformation had established itself by
tclightening.
Mr. PONONBY said, surely the Right Honourable Gen le-
• erposite (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) could never be
vaard of makleg use of religion for.party purpeses. He had
• ago set op or propagated a cry of—" No Popery !" never as-
toed that the Church was in danger if any relief should be gran-
yd:s the Cat h olics—rifcar, haer ! from tie Otptiti'm
lartery one else follow the example of so high an authority,
edb: above making use of religion for party purposes, part!.
alley after the recommendation of the fionoerable Gentleman
. Wilberforce) who was wrapped round with benevolence
ties cloak, and whcse: soul was charity itself—f.el :ascrip—in the
aferretation of all risinions but those that came from that side
'Awl-louse. It was said thefetentli of the Catholics should mi
irate the resentment, and hold it generous treatment when that
. altatened man, the bountiful. Chen:ellor of the Excise quer,
mind )0001. but espressodhit belief that, the Church would he
tined by _ranting I ii,eterie led: it to be expected that the
{deeds of the Catholics should recommend to them to take
fully the obi guy and ignomeay cost 011 them by their opponents?
yis it to be eapectul that the .Catholics would be attached by ie.
' we and refusal ? and was it not known that it AV as by liberality
iai kited treatmetit that attachrtin re was created?
Mr. h'I'EPHENS deprecated the rrirtitiple retaliating cry for
er. He did nut titinli education es ential to tol .ratton. He went.
• s Lase 'cm the demerits of the Catholic religion.
Mr. GRATTAN had foreseen the danger of falling into a re.
liens dispute, flout tiverefusal of the whole suns wanted for
jpe prime of educating too Catholic Clergy of (reload. His
kiesshle realized in the.. general attack the Honourable Gentle-
• wan who spoke Lest had made rut the religion of ones fifth cf his
• Xajecty.; eehjects. To tell.elte Catholics their religion was ido •
locos would give pain tio them, but it would do injury to
e.e Weld. If the Reprosentattlees of the People sot in that As-
. "-ably to stigmatize the' of those who fought for the de-
ire of 'he Country he thee.kilany and Navy, that Assembly was
.'itologitaliy road and-politically. ruined. The, acrimony of refl-
... disputes, and the mutual persecutio,n of sects arose, of
: from ft:h.-VE:I-4'llu of tenets, hut from the inflamed Ito 'Moos of
the tettillitt:. Mr. Gk A 1 TA N spoke at considerable lengea against
• a synena which would di ice the Catholics to revert to foreign
edueatateor;itea most le=ad to connections injurious to England.
There could be no doubt that Lonaparte i evited them to their
former establishments at Paris, with views hostile to Britain.
Dr. DUIGYNAN read the Oath of the Catholic Priests, in or.
do. to chew that they paid an obedience to the Pope which was
inconsistent with the King's supninlacy. The provisions for the
educaiion of the Established Clergy fell short of these proposed
to be grantA for the Priests at Mayonoth. There were in the
University of Dutlin thirty poor scholars, whet get but a dinner
once a day—(A trash)—and 72 scholars of the House, that get a
di'tner once a day —:(.f laud laugh arid no lodgings. He descri-
bed the ColdialCS Ai 'Lad subjectsand hostile to tho State.
Mr. BAKHANI, pealeing to order, objected to the use of such
' Itesetage, in speakirg of 4,000,000 of his Majesty's suhjacts,
The SPEAKF.R declarod, that the freedom of debate did not
prciaile much language.
Dr. DIJIT:ENA N repeated his fcrmer sentiments, and declared
that if any one would move to withdraw the public aid altogether
from Maynuoth, he would second the motion.
• Mr. W. SMITI I c angratulatedhis Majesty's Privy Councillors
en the atees...on thy had, or were soon to have, to their Right
honourable Bode, in An person of the Learned Gentleman who
spoke last. Natiii-le ceald tend s s much to impreea the Catholics
u:kla - ••'.ea of the respect paid to their feelings, as the making of
that appoiatmeat at time same time that the grant in Maynonth
led tenoned. He cited the Quebec Act, to prove that a provi-
e'er had before beets made be a British I .egialature for the rein-
-atholie Clergy. The same Act contained a provision
• r-- • - item of Pretestant Ckhry 460.
:•:'. 'S.A itilANI conicd not let the occadon pass withont ex-
E. fils idshorrenee, of the wicked, diaige.rousi false, and abo-
eattable oplrelotts and expr. tied by the Learned Gentle-
marestho spoke last but one, :emit hinge:age could have no ten-
trot to separate OA United Kingdoms, and to deluge them
in Mood. ,
MrITIER.NLY washed simply to ask the Right Honourable
• Gen:knee- tapir: e, whether the Learned Gentleman who had
been anted to was of the Privy Council of laeland, or was about
to be?
The CH.ANCELI OR ef the EXCIIEQUER. did :la believe
the order to time: edict had goni: ewer.
Mr. TiERNEY was sure the Right Honourable Gentleman
would not quibble. v. i:h than en Hai: point. We know the Right
Honourable or Honeurisble Gentleman could not he A Privy
Councilir till Le ssac iWOra its ; but the qi.estion was, whether
he could lie ? it was not Icing
the Reeht lioneurable Outtl, to F:y the order was not gone. Did
man believe it would go?
Sir A. WELLESLEY lead n.- hesitation to say, that the Lord '
Lientenaet had recommended that the I aeaned Gentleman should
be nude a Member 01the Privy Coencil ; and the reason of that
zetionunendation was, that the Learned Gentleman's presence
seas aheolately necessary for the dispatch of the ecclesiastical af-
fairs, wields Were s., considerable a purl of the business of the
Privy Council.
'lle House than divided on the question, that the Resolution
reed a teeoud time,
A•fes, 10.3
On the cp*Aieal, :ha* tlee Resolution be finally agreed to, being

Puts -
Mr. 11ERN'EY moved, that it be postimeed to a future day,
koder that ;AI the Cabinet Ministers mignt be Premit•
The Number upun this were,
For Mr. Tierney's Motion, 84—Against It, 112.
The other (otitis were postponed, and the House Adjesisted
Three o'elock hi.. morning.

LIST OF THE MINORITY.
rNo DIVIDED ♦GAINST GRANTING BETISLIING rzwzoNs TO

TUC BARONS OF TILT LRCM/642DRR IN ISCOVLAND.
Abereromby, Hon. J. Horteywood, W, Walpole, Hoq. G.
Lankes, Henry Lawronte, F. Wardle, W. L.
Barham, Forster Lushirgton, S. Wharton, John
Burdett, Sir F. Newport, Sir J. Whitbread, S. •
Ikand, Hon. T. . Ponsonby, Hoe.G. Windham, Right I lon.
Calvert, N. Porchester, Lord William
Colborne, N. R.. Ridley, Sir M. W. TZLIARS.
°reeve!, Thomas Russell, Lord W. MrDmiald, 3.
Cuthbert, R. Smith, Wm. Matins H.
r 411411, P. kmuni.rville,Sir

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Our letters from the coast state, that all yesterday
and the day before a great de ti of firing has been
heard, at intervals, from the French coast ; but the
atmo,phere was so hazy, that it was impossible to
see xylwther the batteries were firing at any of our
cruizers, or the latter endeavouring to intercept the
enemy's sna.l craft, which are frequently creeping
alongshore from one port to another. The reports of
the guns were generally from ten to fifteen minutes
between each other ; it is not thought therefore that
the firing proceeded from rejoicing.

Mr. Joumom, a King's Messenger, arrived yester-
day at Harwich by express, and immediately pro-
ceeded on board the BEAUFOY packet, Capt. Nonni%
for Gottenburgh, which immediately prepared to set
sail, without waiting to take a Mail on board. It is
said that Mr, JouesoN is the bearer of dispatches of
the greatest importance.