The Sun.
London, England, 1842-02-05 00:00:00

GRANTS.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER rose to
Move the first reading of a Bill for the application to the
service of the year 1841 of the sums granted in either of
the two last Sessions of Parliament. He said the Bill
which he wished to present for the adoption of the House
was of such a nature, that he should not detain

them with many observations upon it. It had arisen
from the following circumstances :—ln the course of the
year 1841, the Ways and Means were voted in two
separate accounts, in the title of which they were stated
to be tor, the year 1841 ; but in the body Ways and
Means were- appropriated in two different manners
two different services ; the consequence was,
that it became necessary to apply different sums to dii-
ftrent portions of the same service, and this gave rise
not only to great inconvenience in the public depart-
ment, but some loss to the public revenue ; for as • those
votes that were voted in the first session could not be made

to apply to the second session, it was impossible that
the Exchequer bills reserved for those sertlces could be
paid off with the rapidity which was desirable. With
regard to this Bill, he had only further to add, that, in
introducing it, he' had only followed the precedent
of the year 1831. The difficulty having been discovered,
he 'thought it should be set right as early as possible.
Mr. BARING trusted that, at as early a period of the
Session as might be consistent with the public service,
he would be able to lay on the table the details con-
nected with that measure.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
would take care to give the House every information be-
fore he attempted to make any progreSs in the measure.
EMIGRATION. "

Lord STANLEY said, although, on the part of her
Majesty's Government, he co-uld.giVe no sanction to the
reports alluded to by the Noble Lord ivho had preceded
him in the. Colonial Department, ias to an extensivescheme
of emigration, with regard to which .he had already
received from various quarters many- suggestions and
schemes of the most comprehensive .character, yet he
thought the House would only.consider that he was dis-
Charging the duty he 'owed' to the public at large, and
to the situation he had the honour to fill, if
he. took a very -early opportunity in the session to
direct the attention of the House to a subject
of the greatest importance to all .classes of emigrants,
who year after year, .without any interposition on the
part of the Government were proceeding to distant
countries, at onee•relieving the mother • country ream a
superabundance of labour, and by transferring their la-
hour to other, quarters, both rby their labour and
capital auwmentnig the resources at - the' same
time of the mother country and of tho colonies.
There were two subjects of the highest importance to
the two classes concerned in emigration; that is, to the
poorer emigrants and to the capitalists who were en..

gaged in 'promoting emigration and colonisation. The
object of one measure which he intended to bring be-
tin-e the House was to protect the poorer emigrants
from fraud and oppression, to which, in the present
state of thitigs, they were too much subjected.—(Hear.)
The tither related to the inconvenience which was sus-
tained by to desirous of purchasing land in the
colonies, from the fluctuations in price, especially in the
Australian colonies, and the different systems of govern-
ment and colonisation in those colonies. He was sure
that th:r. House was not aware—certainly the country
was not aware—of the extent to which, without
assistance -from the Govermnent, emigration was
proceeding ; and he -was sure that the persons who had
• undertaken emigration and colonisation had, overlooked
in all the instances which came under his observation,
many matters which vitally affected the interest of those
who emigrate.—(Hear.) From the returns of emigrants
from the United KingdoM for the last ten years, ho

found that, with the exception of 1838, when there was

no interruption to the emigration to Canada, the average
number of emigrants was 75,180 per annum. In the year
1840, the numer was 90,700, and, in 1841, it reached

the amount of 106,475. Now, it was wise and emvdi-
ent to attempt to regulate this large emigration, and to
assist in conducting it. I'M to attempt to force it bc-
yond the amount which it had reached would be impo-
litic, and in reality would be injurious to those whom it
was desirous to serve. At one time it was the opinion of
the House, as regarded the vessels carrying passengers
to the colonies, that the emigrants would take care of
themselves, and that any legislative regulations were im-
politic, as they served to increase the expense to the
passengers ; whereas, the owners of those vessels, like
all other trades, if not interfered with, would rest upon
their characters, on which their success must depend.
Now the Passengers' Act had been in force for several

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years before 1825, when an amended Act was passed.
But in 1827 the doctrine which he had just spoken of
prevailed, and the Act was repealed. As soon as
that was done, and the restrictions that used to be

enforced were taken 91f, the frauds became so numer-
ous, the abuses so outrageous, the cases of cruelty
so glaring, and the clamours so load, that in six
Months afterwards an Act of greater stringency than
the former • Passengers' Act was passed.---(Hear.)
In the year 1833, when he (Lord Stanley) had the ho-
nour 'of last holding the seals of the Colonial De-

partment, a system was introduced by Government.
There were established at the different principle
ports of the country emigration agents on the
part of the Government, for the purpose of providing
and assisting parties desirous of emigrating, and for the
purpose of checking the frauds and abuses which
prevailed, and of giving the emigrants advice and
counsel. He (Lord Stanley) believed that notwith-
standing all the imperfections of the present
system, the appointment of those agents had
been productive of Treat improvement, had checked
great abuses, and had materially protected the poorer
classes of emigrants. .But they had now the advan-
tage in legislating on the subject of an experience
Weight or nine years, and of the reports of those differ-
ent emigration agents. Those agents had now a know-
ledge of the principal abuses which still prevail, and
of the principal modes by which their vigilance
was evaded ; and they could say what were the
points upon which the existing law was deficient.
In their Report to the Land and Emigration Commission
appointed two or three years ago, when the subject wits
taken up by the Noble Lord who had preceded him
(Lord Stanley), and Mich was addressed to that Noble
Lord, they had developed their views. A subsequent Re•
port had been addressed to him upon the same
subject, and that Report was accompanied with the re.
commendation of various provisions by which they iil