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SUN,

LONDON,

SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS

FROM TIIE EVENING PAPERS OF YESTERDAY.

GLOBE.—Lord Brougham last night brought before
the House of Lords, by a motion for a Select Committee,
the unparalleled distress of the country. The motion
was resisted by. the Government on the same grounds
as those which were adduced in the House of Commons
—that an inquiry into the subject, with a view to dis-
cover the source of the ealamity, would necessarily be
tedious, and that an attempt to discover and apply a re-
medy would be futile; The people, then, so far as the Go-
vernment and the Legislature, influenced by the Govern-
ment, are concerned, are left without help and without
hope ! Lord Brougham's speech last night was worthy
of the Noble Lord's best days. It was emphatically
ad rem. By keeping to the subject, instead of being
tempted to indulge-those aberrations by which his Lord";
ships statements and arguments on important questions
have frequently been weakened, and his efforts stultified,
the subject was invariably kept before the minds of
his audience, and its important features illustrated with
a clearness, and stamped with a force upon the judgment
and feelings, absolutely.irresistible. Having laid before
their Lordships authenticated statistical statements, the
validity and correctness of which were not disputed,
Lord Brougham selected instances of suffering from the
general mass, by way of exemplifying the deep destitu-
tion, the intensity of distress and suffering, to which the
labouring classes in the manufacturing districts are
reduced.
STANDARD.—The distress in the manufacturing
districts again furnished occasion for long debates in the
two Houses of Parliament last night. The debates
upon this subject are painful and wearisome ; but let
them not be thought unprofitable, how hopeless
so ever a present remedy—how far so ever Lords
and Commons may be at present from the
truth. It is right that the Legislature should
manifest its sympathy with a people suffering with noble
resignation ; and it is " by mistakes we learn," as a wise
man has•saitl ; by fully examining all paths it is that the
right path is at length discovered. In the House of
Lords Lord Brougham moved for a Committee to inquire
into the causes of theyublic distress, and proved, by a very
long and ingenious speech, with which he introduced his
motion, that he at least is in the dark upon the subject.
His Lordsh.p, however, failed to show that a Committee
would much enlighten him. A Committee to collect all
the evidence that could be offered, and that properly
would be offered, must sit for years, and in the end it
would arrive only at the fact, which is unhappily too ob-
vious to require a single witness—the fact that
the manufacturing people are exposed to cruel
privations. A Committe could pronounce only
upon details, but the real mischief hes in a principle
—a principle plain to the sense of any rational man,
whose understanding is unfettered by the chains of that
most narrow of all narrow systems, a miserable political
economy. The only liberal reasoners are they who
utterly reject these manacles of system, and they
have no difficulty in detecting the cause of the
present national affliction. Let us then try to do
for Lord Brougham what no Committee can do.
Let us try to emancipate his mind from those
wretched trammels by which he is hampered and
perplexed, and direct him, if not to an immediate
remedy for the existing distress—which is,. we fear,
unattainable—to the causes of that distress ; and as
his Lordship has, in the course of his legal studies,
learned from Coke, that to trace an evil to its source is
the first step to its removal, he will appreciate the ser-
vice. This service is due to Lord Brougham more than
to any other man, because (as we believe) he has, un-
consciously, done more by his brilliant talents and un-
tiring energy, to create the affliction which he laments,
than any other man living.

HER MAJESTY'S THEATRE.—MdIIe. Rachel took
her benefit on Monday in this theatre, which the enthusiasm of
the occasion crowded in every portion. The selected scenes
she had culled for her benefit, were the fourth act of the
.4ndrornaque of Racine, the sth of Librun's translation from
Schiller's Marie Stuart, and the fourth act from Corneille's
Les Heraces. Her acting of the second was a touching
master-piece. Rubini and La Cerito lent their attractions to
her benefit, in conjunction with Lablache, Madame Persieni,
Signor' and Madame Ronconi, Guasco, Mdlle. Moltini, F.
Lablache, Guy Stephan, Perrot, &c. &c. The second time
Rachel appeared to the universal call for her, the applause was
so vehement, and so continuous, that she was completely over-
powered, and retired trembling with Litigue and emotion. It is
said that she is to proceed to Russia. Joy and success go with her.
Among the distinguished visitors were—The Queen Dowager,
accompanied by the Duke and Duchess of Saxe Meiningen,
Lord and Lady Barrington, Earl Howe, Lord Curzon, Lady
Georgina Curzon, and Miss Wheatley ; the Duchess of Kent,
accompanied by Baroness Lehzen,' Lady A. M. Dawson, Lady
Montgomery, Lady Louisa Parker, Sir George Cowper, and
Hon. General Upton; the Duchess of Cambridge, Princess
Augusta, and Prince George of Cambridge ; Duke and Duchess
of :Sutherland, Duke and Duchess of Buccleuch, Duke and
Duchess of Beaufort, Marchioness of Londonderry, Marquis of
Conyngham, Marquis of Lansdowne, Marquis of Titchfield,
Earl of Liverpool, Lady Peel, Lord and Lady Villiers, Lord
and Lady Beauchamp, Lady Monteagle, Lord Sandy's, Lord
Lowther, Lord Templetown, Sir George Wombwell, &c.
HAYMARKET TMEATRE.—Mondav night, after the
Rose of Arragon, a new comic drama, entitled Peter and Paul,
was produced with much success. The piece is borrowed from
the clever French cornedietta of L' Oncle Baptise, which sup-
plies nearly all the features and incidents, changing the scenes,
however, from France to Gloucester and London. Fari en sus-
tains the principal character. Mrs. Glover, as Peter's wife,
was ever thing that could be desired, and Mrs. E Yarnold,
Vining, Tilbury, and Howe efficiently co-operated. It was
much applauded, and announced for every night till further
notice.

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ROYAL ADELAIDE GALLERY, LOWTHER-ARCADE.
—The Queen Dowager, accompanied by the Duchess of Saxe-
Meiningen, the
Hereditary Pince Saxe-Meiningen, and
Lord Howe, visited this institution or, Monday, and honoured Mr.
Claudet with a sitting for her likeness by the Daguerreotype.
The Right Hon. Thomas Frankland Lewis, Mr.
Fitzherbert, the Belgian Consul at Brazil, Mr. Saportas and
family, formed part of 'the large number of passengers who
oa Monday arrived at St. Katherine's Wharf, Tower, by the
Antwerp steamer, Princess Nictoria, Captain Minter.

WEDNESDAY MORNING. „JULY 13, 1542,
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the 14th of Sc'tember. It the jeteiei,J• ~Luz-11 1-YTTE-11°N.17,5-'l-1
Whit marsl, He had promisedll
to vote tor I 'apt. \,1.:-.-les. ',1,-",61•`-' 11l the Mille"
wted for the Coi.servalive candldees, inn : "..-4:arpe made l A ireeisage front the Coma-tons brought tip Sevcral Pre
wee of his being brought up by " Jack Wren." 'There was a vate Bills which had passed that House, end some ot:iers.
memorandum of hh own to this effect, " \vas not this a vot, r 1 •iti 'lt c.ll they bad agreed to the Lords' amendment.,
who promised Cooper?" He had a list of chairman and colour- The Perth Prison Bill passed through Committee, and
men, but no payments were made. He attended the Liberal was reported.
Committee every night, and he was satisfied Mr. Wren was The Dublin University Right of Voting Bill, which
never there. takes away the Parliamentary suffrage from persons who
Abraham Cave was called, but there was nothing of import-
have only an honorary degree, also passed through
ante in his evidence. Committee, anti was reported.
Edward Cockerell proved that Wren told him, when he re-
EMPLOYMENT IN MINES, &e.
ceived the Speaker's warrant in September, he was offered
three hundred pounds by Mr. Baker, if he withdrew his The Earl of GALLOWAY presented a petition from
objections, and told what he knew of the election. Mr. Wren , Callander, and other places in Scotland, in favour of
told him that he had never received any money from Mr. Lord Ashley's Bill.
Mackay. He (witness) did what he could to forward the interest
of Lord Bruce and Mr. Martyn.
To Mr, BAKER—Wren did not withdraw the objections.
To the CHAIRMAN—He had no doubt that bribery was
committed on both sides. It did not come un,Ter his own ob-
servation. Persons asked him for bribes. lie did not counte-
nance such applications.
Samuel Linney proved that Redwards told him he had not
received any money as a bribe. Redwards commenced the
conversation with him. Thomas Brown was present. Did
not kn w much of Redwards.
Henry Pike proved that Wren did not show him ten
pounds on the day of nomination, which he said he got from
Mr. Mackay. Has not the slightest recollection of it.
It was not likely that such a circumstance would have taken
place without his recollecting it. Never told Wren he got 22/.
fur a dinner at the Albion. Wren told him he was made an
offer by Mr. Baker.
To Mr. BAKER—Is a strong Conservative. Got 101. at the
last election ; it was, in exchange for other money ; had two
rooms occupied in his house ; one of them was a refreshment
room ; supplied refreshments; was pot paid ; did not expect
any payment. There was a cheque fer '22/. in his name. lie
did net receive the money . The banker's accounts are wrong.
Knows the Godleys. Did not pay them any money. Did not
pay either of them. Did not employ them, or either of them
as messengers. (Mr. Baker here referred to the evi-
dence taken before the late Committee, by which it
appeared that the witness employed one of the God-
leys at ss. a-day, and paid him about 41.) His memory was
now refreshed.—(Laughter.) He did pay Godley some money.
He paid it out of his own pocket. He did not state to the late
Committee what he stated to-day about Wren.
Thonias Twyford was next called, and stated that Mr.
Wren canvassed him -at the last election, and gave him a note
to a person called Mackay. Is a tenant of Mr. Abrahams.
Mr. Abrahams did not canvass him for his vote.
To to Mr. BAKER—Knew Wren before the election. Ile
did not promise Wren to vote. He asked witness to vote for
Martyn and Bruce. Witness answered that it was likely he
would. Witness said he did not like to be losing his time.
Wren asked him whether 51. would be an object to him
He (witness) answered it would, and he wished he could
get it. On the day of the election Wren desired him to
breakfast at Pike's ; lie did so, and from thence he went to vote.
He afterwards called on Wren for the money ; but he ( Wren)
said he had given away what he had. He gave witness a letter
to Mr. Mackay. He did not know what Mr. Mackay it was.
He did not take the letter to Mr. Mackay ; he tore it up.
To the COMMITTEE—Cannot say why he tore the letter up.
Cannot say why he should tear the letter, by which he was to
get the 5/. he was so anxious to receive. He did not expect
anything from Wren.
Joseph Clerk was called, and stated that Charles Brown came
up to him and took gold and notes out of his pocket, and said
" that is the way we are doing it," He knew Brown was ac-
tive on the Conservative side. Thinks it was not likely he could
have such a sum of own. Believes that there was bribery
and.treating at Southampton at the last election. --
William Gale exarnined--Was a voter at the last election.
Vottl. forLord:Eiruee-sna Martyh.: lisle employed him
•as a -messenger. He got ,7s. 6d: a day, and was-paid weekly.
He-was also employed as colourman at U. a day. He was em-
ployed two clays as colourman. That money is due to him.
Charles Brown stated that the money he had in his hand,
and which •he -showed to Mr. Clark and Mr. Buchan, were
things which -lie procured for the purpose. The notes were
what are called " flash" notes. He did it by way of a joke.
The votes will follow those who have plenty of money. Knew&
Mr. Wren. Saw him at the time the late Committee
was sitting. Mr. Wrest came to him and said that
he (Wren) ,Ais!.ed to speak with Mr. Deacon. Witness in-
formed Mr. Deacon, and then he tank Wren to him. He
left them speaking together. He did not hear what they
were speaking about.
Mr. Joseph Ball Stated that he had signed cheques. One
was fur 75/. ; it went to pay for dinners. Received a letter
from Wren stating that there were seven or eight voters who
could be bribed. He saw Wren, and said it was absurd to
bribe, as the election was secure. He went with %Vren to
Portwood to see a voter named Russell. Saw Russell hut did
not speak to him
Wm. Hogson, an innkeeper of Southampton, stated he had
supplied dinners and grog to several voters, and was paid 1801.
by Mr. Cheeseman.
Mr. Cheeseman, president, Mr. Lucas, the secretary, and
Mr. Scobell, the treasurer of the Conservative Convivial Asso-
ciation, were called, and produced the books and accounts of
the Association.
In reply to Mr. Baker, Mr. Cheeseman stated he had re-
ceived 400/. from Mr. Mabson and Mr. Stebbing, out of which
he paid the debts of the Association, for dinners, &c. One-
half of this money was given to him subsequent to the election.
The examination of this witness having concluded the Com•
mittee adjourned.

iC it Altiuns

SUDBURY.
On the motion of the Marquis of CLANRICARDE,
the Sudbury Witnesses Indemnity Bill was read a
second time, went through Committee, was reported,
read a third time, and raised, the Standing Orders hav-
ing been suspended to facilitate its progress.
LORD ASHLEY'S BILL. _

The Marquis of LONDONDERRY presented petitions
from Durham and Yorkshire against certain portions of
the Mines and Colliel ie4 Bill. He took that opportu-
nity of denying that the coal-owners had entered into any
compromise with the promoters of Lord Ashley's Bill.
RAILWAYS.

Lord CAMPBELL presented a petition from Mr.
George Waltet', managing director of the Greenwich
Railway, setting forth that the petitioner had invented a
means of preventing the overturning of railway carriages,
by making the centre of the carriages the centre of their
gravity, and praying for inquiry.
MINES AND COLLIERIES.

Lord WHARNCLIFFE stated, in reference to the
petitions on this subject presented by Lord Londonderry,
that it was the intention of the Government to remain
perfectly passive in the matter.
The irl of CLARENDON presented a petition from
the Union of Dudley against the Bill.
BIRMINGHAM POLICE.

Lord REDESDALE presented a petition, signed by
15,000 inhabit,nts and rate-payers of Birmingham, pray-
ing that the House would take some means to reduce the
expenses of the Police force, and that they might be re-
lieved from the present charter Qf incorporation.
SUDBURY DISFRANCHISEMENT.

The NOBLE Loan also presented a petition from the
Mayer and inhabitants of Sudbury, against the disfran-
chisement.of that borough. The petitioners stated. that
they thought Sudbury was no worse than a great many
other boroughs, and that a whole borough ought nut to
be punished for the delinquencies of a few.
MINES AND COLLIERIES BILL.
Lcrd BROUGHAM presented several petitions from
places in Shropshire, Yorkshire, and other mining dis-
tricts, some •in favour of, and some against this Bill.
Numerous petitions for and against Lord Ashley');
Mines and Collieries Employment Bill, were presented
by the Earl of Wicklow, Lord Monteagle, Earl Stan-
hope, the Earl of Scarborough, an I Lord Denman.
EDUCATION.—HULLAII'S SYSTEM.

LordAVHARNCLIFFE laid upon the table the
Report of the Education Committee of her Majesty's
Council, and said he had also to present, pursuant to
notice, a petition from 1,600 persons who had been in-
structed in music at Exeter Hall, chiefly at the, expense
of an institution, -whichavas endeavouring to. disseMinate
as widely as possible a taste fur music and other ele-
men ta IA a refined Tedueti on:amongst, the. humbler classes
of their countrymen. The petitions prayed that Parlia•
ment would render pecuniary assistance to enable
those per-Sins` -effectually to--execate • • their ad-
's:lttable • desigriS. - Those 'persontt' first thought'
that the best •••mean;i of disseminating amongst
the people a taste for this science would be by teaching
music to schoolmasters and schoolmistresses. They
commenced on this plan in 1841, entirely at their own
expense, but after it had become known that the school-
Masters and mistresses derived so much advantage, the
desire seized numerous mechanics and artisans to be
allowed to participate in it, and at the present moment
there were no less than 50,000 persons, in fifteen classes,
receiving instruction. Those persons desired to have
the means of acquiring, in a similar manner, a knowledge
Of other elements such as arithmetic and litlear
drawing. Several Noble Lords were present, as well
as himself, at the choral meeting- which was held
at Exeter-hall for the purpose of showing what had
been the proficiency-of Mr. Hullah's class there in a very
short time—(Heat, hear)—and he could appeal not only
to them for the extraordinary proficiency, but he could
state a foreign musician of eminence--indeed it was Men-
delssohn—expressed to him his delight and astonish-
ment, and his conviction that Mr. Hullah had conferred
upon his country the greatest possible benefit.--(Hear,
hear.) The Committee of the Council had had applica-
tions from all parts of the country for assistance in
carrying Mr. Hullah's system into effect, and they found
that the grant of 30,0001. was altogether insufficient to
meet the desire for education which pervaded the
country. They had money granted for the establish-
ment of schools, but what was the good of schools unless
they had good schoolmasters?—(Hear, hear.) There
Was a school under the management of Mr. Stowe at
Glasgow, and though that school produced excellent
schoolmasters, they did not seem to work together with
.the General Assembly. The Government then agreed
to give • 5,0001. towards the establishment of a
normal school in Glasgow, and 5;0001. towards a normal
school in Edinburgh, provided the management of
. those schools were allowed to reside in the hands of the
General Assembly. The whole of Scotland was now
provided with efficient schoolmasters. Other sums of
money were granted for the establishment of schools all
over the country, and numerous applications had been
made, on the part of others, to provide them with nor-
mal schools. Their Lordships must see, that if they
assented to all these requests, the demand for money
must far exceed the small sum annually allowed by Par-
liamentfur the purposes of education and school build-
ing. There was one part of the present system to which
•he objected as unnecessary and expensive, and that was'
the system of inspection and repo: ting to Parliament.
He could not see what reason there was for reporting ts
Parliament the state of every one of the se school, which
would lay open the Managers of any of then', at anytime,
to attacks in the House of Commons. He was of opinion, •
however, that reports should be made to the. Council of
Education and the Diocesan ; but, for any thing inure
th.li that, he certainly could not see the necessity. He
could nut help thinking that if Parliament would •
grant the requisite funds, he was sure no one would
grudge the money, and they should go on so rapidly in
the course of education, that England would, in a very
short tithe, be the best educated country in the world. •
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE was glad to see that
the Noble Lord opposite was prepared to extend an.l
carry out that system which had, for the last few years,
been adopted to improve the education of the country.
The Noble Baron, in presenting the petition, had stated
clearly and distinctly to the House the whole of the
circumstances attendant upon the introduction of the
wonderful system of singing taught by Mr. Mullah.
He, from the first, was convinced that the experiment of
Mr. Hullah would succeed ; and the success had been
infinitely greater than he had anticipated. Immediately
after the first class was announced at Exeter Hall,
seventy persons subscribed their names ; and by the
time that class had gone through the course,
three other classes of one hundred persons each
were formed, and there were now fifteen classes,
attended by 2,500 persons at a time. He agreed with
the Noble Baron (Lind Wharncliffe) as to the excellent
influence of musical education upon' the working classes,
and he hoped that Parliament would empower the Com-
mittee of the Council to give pecuniary assistance for
the extension of this kind of education. But he hoped
such assistance would not be rendered by a deduction •
from the present grant.—(Hear, hear.) Those who re-
commended the grant were told that they would fail in
their object of creating a desire for education ; but
happily, as the Noble Lord (Wharncliffe) had testified,
the result was, that an extraordinary stimulus had been
given to that desire, which was now so great as to re-
quire a very much larger sum than had been placed at
the command of the Council to meet it.—(Hear, hear.)
A great -stimulus had been given to the benevolent to
promote education from private sources, in which they
would have despaired to embark, if they were not en-
couraged by the hope of assistance from the Govern-
ment fund.—(Hear, hear.) . The result of the experi-
ment showed that there could be no better instrument for
carrying a national system of education into effect than
the Committee of Council, both in respect to inspection
and control. But a much larger sum than had been
hitherto granted was necessary to carry the system into
Bill effect, and even in -these times of distress he did not
think that a grant could be more beneficially applied.
In the vicissitudes to which the trade and manufactures of
this country wereliable, what could be more desirable. than
to place the working man in a condition, by superior
education, to transfer his labour from one branch of in-
dustry to another?—(Hear, hear.) The Noble Marquis
then read an extract from the evidence of a foreign ma-
nufacturer, who employed a number of persons of various
countries, Saxon, Swiss, and English, who stated that an
Englishman in his own particular branch was superior
to the others, but that on account of the more limited
nature of his education, he was as able as the Swiss, tut
less so than the Saxon, to adapt himself to emergencies—to
apply himself on an occasion to another branch of. work.
—(Hear, hear.) He concluded by thanking the Noble
President of the Council for his statement, runt expres-
sing his concurrence in his views.
Lord BROUGHAM believed that his two Noble
Friends the present Lord President of the Council, and
the late Lord President of the Council, would expect
that he should offer them his thanks for their gratifying
statements. But lie differed from them in this, that he
did not think that education could progress too rapidly,
although lie had always been glad to assist its progress,
hoe ever moderate, however slow. There was oneb part
of the Noble Baron's statement which he had heard with
regret ; it was, that 5,000 Z had been given to certain
schools in Scotland, on condition that they were put
under the management of the General Assembl T° I t3l
he (laird Brougham) entertained the highest
r3e''speletllio;
the General Assembly, he did think Hutt the Dissenters
should be allowed to enjoy the advantages of those
:granta to a certain extent ; he should, therefore, beg to
suggest that a portion of the grant should be given to tins
body in Scotland, muse ering to the British and Foreign
Bible Societies, if there were such a body.
Lord WHARNCLIFFE said it would be time enough
to think about allowing grants to the Dissenters when
they built normal schools.
The matter then dropped.
DRAINAGE BILL.
This Bill was read a second time.
DRAINAGE (IRELAND) BILL.
This. Bill was read a second time.
MINES AND COLLIERIES BILL.

Earl DEVON postponed the second reading of this
Bill till Thursday next.