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London, England, 1830-12-08 00:00:00

TRIAL OF THE FRENCH ELMINIBTERS.

COUNT OINCIINON DZ ILIINTILLZOCT. 47.
Tou know the charges brought against you by the Chamber of De.'
pude& Do you persist in your preceding answers !—Before I reply to
the divers questions that may be put to me, I declare that I reserve to
myself the right of taking any objections, in fact or in law, that the
cause may present. I persist, moreover, in the whole of the answers
given by me to the Commissioners of the Chamber of Deputies, with
some explanations that I shall have to give.
Was the plan suggested in presence of Charles, or In Councils at
which he was not present P—The discussion upon the system it was ex.
pedient to adopt under the critical circumstances in which chessman:by
WAS placed, took place first in a Council of the Ministers sloes, sod
then in a subsequent Council in the premiss or the
Did your opposition to this system eselbuo till thiretimatme el the
ordonnaness on the 26th of July ?...A dhtlestisa nue be en& be.
tween the system itself and the ordonnances Ise it We WM'
tiOD. I opposed the system, on the ground that pointed
out did not appear to me sufficiently 66 or beinisuat, to cam.
pal the Government to deviate from aPI assatsy team. This
system, moreover, presented to my view serious boenveniences, as
well on aosount of the circumstances under which they were pro.
posed, as in the means of its execution. I urged these considers.
doss, first in the Council of Ministers alone, and was supported by
one of my colleagues. I resumed my opposition with fresh argu.
meats in the Council held in the King's presents. My opinion not
having prevailed, I attached little importance to the text of the or.
donnanees, which were but the inevitable consequence of the plan
adopted, and which, besides, gave rise to no discussioo in the Conn.
oil, except upon objects of detail and grammatical forms. I wish
the Commission to hear upon this subject the deposition of M. Cour-
voisicr, to whom I communicated my opinion both before and Ate the
ordonnanees.

Can you say which of your colleagues supported you in your op.
position P—As this circumstance may serve one of my (*Hague',
without being prejudicial to the others, I have so reason to withhold
it ; it was M. de Peyronnet.
How did it happen, that having been so opposed to the system which
prevailed in drawing up the ordinances that you brought yourself to
sign them ? From my preceding answer, it results, that in my view
an extralegal system could only be warranted by the 14th article,
compared with the circumstances of the moment. The discusiori
was immediately brought to a judgment of facts. The perils which,
according to the opinion of my colleagues, endangered in the most
alarming manner the safety of the statmdid not, it its true, appear to
me to do so, but I had no pretension to suppose myself mote wise than
the other members of the Council, and my opinion not having been
adopted, I was necessarily led to conclude that I took a wrong view
of feet., which the majority viewed differently to myself. On ono.
ther head, I might have withdrawn from the Ministry, but I did not
conceal from myself, that under the circumstances in which we were
placed. any modification of the Council might have been attended with
serious inconveniences to the King, and perhaps even to the state ; in
shun, I calculated the full extent of the responsibility that the
Ministry was taking upon itself, and had no idea of flying in the
presence of danger.
Would it not have been possible for the danger which you sup-
pose, to have been confined to a change of Ministry ? If we had
thought that a change of Ministry could' have averted the perils
which surrounded the throne, none of us would have hesitated to have
resigned.
When the ordonnances were once signed, what share had you in the
choice of the precautions which it was necessary to take to ensure their
success P—The means of execution prescribed by the ordonnances were
resolved on in council, but I took little or no part in these discussions of
the measures, which belonged "gently to departments foreign to mine.
1 ought, upon this ocasien, to rectify an error committed by myself, or
by the reporter of the committee of the Chamber of Deputies. The re.,
port sets forth that I was not present at the council, when the declara-
tion of Paris to be in a state of siege was resolved en. Zither I did not
explain myself properly, or I was misunderstood. The truth is, that 1
was present ; and although I did net speak upon the subject, my silence
should be considered as approving the oneettre.
On your arrival at St. Cloud, what steps did you sake with respect to
the King 1 Is the long delay of frees 10 to II Vele& in carrying ins
execution the resolution he appears to here takes to shove his W
ten, and resell the adamant:es, to be attributed to the council in whim.'
yuu took part P—lmmediately after the resolution come to far She repeal
of the ordonnances and change at the mtny, the Due de Mortennet,
already nominated Minister for Foreign Affairs, was sent by the
to Pals, in order to confer with the Commission, said to be eatabliiei
at the Hotel de Ville, ea the measures to be curled into execution. I
am totally ignorant of the obstacles that impeded the accompliiihment
of this minion. Of this alone lam innate—foe the rest of the day and
throughout the night we remained without any intelligence of the Duke
de DI or tem ar t

Have you any explanations to give which can throw a light upon
the origin of these extraordinary ronlagration which, during the
last months of the duration of the Ministry of which you were a
member, have desolated several cantons of Normandy, and the per.
tration of which was connected with any plan for throwing France
into a state of trouble and alarm f—The contiguities' you have
mentioned were the objects of the most painful anxiety and solicitude
from the very fires moment that dreadful calamity made its appear.
ante. We did not bold a single council without eusidering of means
to remedy the evil. With this view two regiments of the Guards
were sent, into Normandy, under the command of General Latour
Foissa. who was invested with the title and functions of Commissary-
tEksordinary, and to whom a certain number of police agents were
seat by the Prefect. lf the Commission will take the trouble to have
laid before it, all the voluminous correspondence that took place on the
subject, between the local authorities and the 11 mister of the Interior and
of Justice, if it will haw thrdepesidons of 111.11ontalivault, ex-Prefect
of Calvados, General Latour Fauna, and Major General Eugene d'Hau.
teville, who then commanded in the department, and M. Guillibett,
Procureur.General of the Royal Court of Caen, it will acquire a full
conviction that the King's Government took every means within the
reach of human power to repress the evil, and discover the authors. It
is to be regretted that the Members of the Committee of impeachment
appointed by the Chamber of Deputies bad not recourse to these means
of obtaining information upon a fact of such vital importance, and the
Reporter would have escaped from the great wrong or bringing forward
an:insinuation totally devoid of foundation. It is equally easy u cam. 1
mon to attack men fallen under misfortune, but inculpation without
proofs are calumnies. I doiire that the most scrupulous researches be
made to discover the authors of these crimes, which of me the Mlle
severely, as they have devastated a province to which I have the honour
to belong.

IMPORTANT DEPOSITIONS.
Actitta.s humeri. NICOLAS Ds Ovum
Aged 39, Cbef de Harshest, residing at No. SI, ere de arrears, Pan.
Oa Monday the 26th of July, I was at the bows if the Doke de
Ryon, when or his arrival at Paris, he, for the drat Moe, read the
A/unites,. whin be hid net beer able to Femme at &. Mud. Ae
soon as belted mad it be went to the &rime, (diem bdog a meeting
or that day) mad from thence be nursed to Se. Mod. Oa Tseeday
morning 1 received a letter front him, &ebb/ me to ideas hiss of what
woe prong in Pavia, se the jowl& Wight sot aggsas I vas sa-
ting oat to amply with this start whir I ressivie sotadise eolobby
rue to repair to the Seat Ale*. I went then kriellaishrb IMS ODOM 1
she Marshal &beady anind—it wee then bourse Were reiAe
&link. Ile laferated me that is the meentag the Ring had Mat feel
him, std given him orders to proceed to Pads sod take the monad
cf it, at the same time identity him that dieuerbaseas bad token
place the evening before, but pensitdag him to rime to St. Cloud is

In the coons of the day, but I cannot state the precise hour, a pro.
demotion was drawn up by ens of the Ministers and communicated to
another Minister who was that, sod I was dires;ed to get it printed at
ruralloy Pdadapollisos boti am my representing that this WAS im.
am, bat I amiset Ny MO all WON was given to the young
moo who mu aiNII the Preted of Polka, asid who went back wools
and harm& soma them in the ammo of the day, with directions to
get it printed sad tibelhated.
At a very ndl boor en Thursday, the Marshal sent to call to.
gether all the Mayon d Peels, but only three came. About seven
o'clock Y. de limmmeMe and M. d'Argout were introduced and pro-
ceeded to Saha Cloud at the same time with the Ministers. On their
departure the Mayors were directed to aanounce that the firing was
about to mum We were considering with the Marshal what would
be the usess of their mission, and it to be likely to be sails.
foamy, whoa a brisk firing was and the retreat was effected.
I dam It my duty to t into your hands, in order to clear up facts
conseaki the Ma shalin addition to the two *mice of letters of which
I haws epode, an order givm to General Count Wall by the Marquis
of Din; Aide•Major•Geseral of the Guard, which explains the
semi ails sakes emu by the ManhaL This order is dated St. Cloud,
July 117, bat ba way soMsxt and the draunstanees stated in it, suf.
ads*, pow dist iime Is a mistake with reprd to the place, and that
it add My have been given at Paris. Finally, I place in your hands
a War to me, =Ms by the Marquis of adorn!, dated October Iv,
from Ithtsn, la whisk he gives the most precise explanations relative
to the 01161111 10 6111100138 of the Roy
al Guard in case of enter-
has never awed to be in misname. It is easy also to ascertain that
similar sides likewise exist for the troops of the line.
This witness produced the following documents