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LAST PROCEEDINGS OF THE HOUSE OF tkiPRE-
SENTATIVES.
Monday, April 25, (Solt:lock).
The Bill from the Senate to authorize the President
under certain contingencies to suspend the Non-Im-
portatiion. law having been called up, and a Motion
having been made to postpone it indefinitely,
Mr. New-rox begged the House to consider one
moment before they postponed this Bill. They had
already passed a la*, authorizing the President of
. the United States to suspend the operation of the em-
bargo law, in the event of a general peace, or such
accommodation to neutrals as should render the cofti-
merce of the United States safe. NOwli in the event
of that law-being suspended, it might also be proper
to suspend this.
Mr. NaLsou said he should never tote for the. re.
peal or suspension of this law. He hoped to see the
time when it should become a permanent regulation,
he would not yield to any of the Powers of- Europe,
and he wished to be independent of them. There
were many things now imported from -Europe which
could as well be made in our own country. If they
could be as well made, he considered it sound policy
to give a preference to our own manufactures, and
so far to prohibit theirs as to effect a preference of
our own. Whether in ;_this principle lam right or
wrong, said he, I am arrtainly right in this, that at
this late period of the Session it is impossible to dis-
cuss such a question as this ; and therefore I wish the
motion to prevail.
Mr. MARION. said, he was one .of these who origi-
nally voted for the Non-importation Law, and he had
• never repented his vote; but he voted for itunder a
firm persuasion that it would go into operation.- It
had been afterwards-suspended, because there was a,
negociation pending and a prospect of accommoda-
tion ; but if it were the determination never to suffer
it to go into operation, he had much rather see it re-1
pealed. If it were to be kept in suspension, hung up
lik a rod in tcrrorein, it would merit ridicule. What
- cause could there be for suspending it at present?'
Any negociation pending ?—He believed not. If it
were the understanding of a majority, that..the Bill
should not go into operation, he hoped they would
propose a repeal of it.
Mr. NEWTON believed he was as mitbh disposed as
his friend from Maryland or Virginia to concede any
point to Great Britain or France. He would wear•
sackcloth and ashes for the remainder of his life, rar
ther than surrender one atom to either of these
Powers. But what had produced this law ? The
violation of our commerce and impressment of our •
seamen. If any change should cause great Britain to
• desist, was there any impropriety in trusting the Pre-
sident with a discretion to say, that the operation of
the law should Cease till the next Session of Con-
gress ? Certainly not.• He wished to see the day, I
with his: friend from Maryland, when every man
within these walls and in the United States should
be clad in the fabrics, of -his own country ; and he j
made no doubt when once established, that the ma- I
nufacturers of this country would afford every thing
necessary for supplies of every kind.
Mr. EPPES said, it appeared that the question of
suspension of the Non-importation Act, was very dif-
ferent from that of the Suspension of the Embargo.
The former was a measure of coercion on Great Bri-
tain, and whether it had that effect or not, he believ-
ed at the time that the law was passed, that the only
way in which we could operate on that Power was,
by commercial restrictions. And he felt now free to
declare, that if ample -Ition were made for the

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the measure was not of greater extent, and more adapted to ge-
neral principles. After taking an extensive view of the different
local forces of the cobotry, the Noble Earl proceeded to recom-
mend, according 19 his own system, that instead of ballot, an en-
rolment of all the young men of the covotty, from the age of 18
to 93, should take place ; that there should neither be substitu-
tion nor purchase,but tb.. it should equally affect eve-y class of
%ty'• 'eat, He concluded with declaring his idten.
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amendmint

ration of the Dacy
mittta there was a Bounty on that of Linen.
NAVAL ASYLVM.
The Order of the Day having been read for the House to go
into a Committee of Supply, on the motion that the estimates of
the expence relating to the Naval Asylum be referred to the said
Committee,
Sir CHARLES POLE objected to so' abuse Of the pub-
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Beef, but a drawback on

his Majeity's subjects,
tion to-move some amendm,,,ts in the Committee.
The Earl of BUCKINGHAMSHIRE approved of the mew-
sure. He did not wish to use hare, expressions against any los
feign power, but be thought the tyranny, of France had at last
given a glorious opportunity for changing the affairs of Europe.—
The Spaniards might be successful in their present efforts to shake
off tke yoke of tyranny and despotism, but we should nevertheless
be on our guard. France lunst still be an object of our Jealousy ;
she could not yet be sufficiently weakened, and we must still have
recourse to a permanent force for our security. He wished his
Majesty's Ministers would turn their attention to making the
Irish Militia force disposable, and give her an equivalent for it.
This, he thought, would be a good security against every attempt
at invasion, or any other attack of the enemy against this country.
Lord MOIRA disapproved of the principle of the Bill

, lavish an ar,_ _
lie money,and repeated his former objection( to the alit elged alitries
prevalent in the direction of that institution...
Mr. ROSE denied that any abuse whatever prevailed in the ap-
plication of the money in thltdepartment ; fifty thousand pounds
were allvoted as yet by Parliament,andthe estimate of the expencee.'
in the bWlding, and other branches of the expenditure, bwd amotint-
ed to no less than eighty or ninety thousand pounds, .
The House then went into a Committee of Supply, and on the
Resolution for granting £‘25,000 to the Naval Asylum,
St CHARLES POLE renewed his objections to the appoint-
ments of Auditor and Surgeon, when neither of the persons tilling
those situations had had my previous connection with the Navy.
He oontenderi, that such appoinubents were a serious discourage-
ment to the Navy.
Tire CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER asked if the Ho-.
Admiral would have the - pulled down, and the

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',Mt teem ilmettiek ot the trininroceasion, iie did not impute
the Noble Marisa'
PdALMMtbirilltr PROCELPINGS. . -- -.
• . n, who had
LGILAVE defended the __,_tel
awe to which that Nrlnaron hod seenlied suck a selfish
With resort' to tiemotives of a •rrranctirernont to
last but tWor - --e-- - lte lye
cam' but thought ie had been inflamed by a dangerous
HOUSE OF LORDS, Jr NE or. ,• ess
ract.elle observed that it °lent' went to prevent. It'multil ' nmbition ; and the question now was, should die. &i.
Tit the
ithit3urgh APPelitt Mr. Cleft ItulkallY 11414;&-ittsr- which had ever been found most miseldevon to the Ind, nals
they proCeeding to-morrow. • who engaged in them'. As to what theNolde Marquis lodinated tish Parliament adopt his acts, and make h 4.
theta their
The Lunatic Bill and the Loan-Bill were read a third that Med on the ion of the Mutiny BM, it must be evident to the own. The Honourable Gentleman then went into
Passed .—The Irish blab' .8111, and the Auditors Frothing Ms House that it was indispereable to preeere a due suirordinetlan ' . detailed- merit of the case, and vontended that the
passed through ponuninees, and were reported. 1
if the risks of the Local Militia were filled front the lowest classes
Prince Ally Hussein was, and was acknowledged as
The Pilots Bill, the Brazil Trade Bill, and the British Fisheries , , such a check would be absolutely necessary ; if they
Bill, were brought from the Commons by Mr. Rose and other ' ''''
consisted in a great measure of individuals of a superior descrZ eltnit power. It was perfectly clear
undeniable,epen and
Members, and read a first time, as were also the Promissory Notes •
don, their conduct would be such is &header-any exercise of that before the inquiry instituted by the
Bill, and some other Bills brought up by Mr. Wharton and other •
provisions of the 818 sari:Amu,. , - . . Governor General, by his. Commissioners, he had re.
44ernhers. PP"'
, • The LORD CHANCFLlAR,advertin4;;4llSat bed been mid solved to assume the Goverrunent of the Cat-static,:
1 The D uke of MONTROSE preKnted a petition from the county ,
~ oo the subject of insurance requested Lords to- inquire
af Dumbarton in favour of prohibiting Distillation from Grain. i what had taro place iri eheir
' own feroldet in these cases. They a 0
'l"prove this, he readahe instructions to Lord Clive.
i• ....Ordered to lie on the table, would" find thati=ently those•of -their 'Orrints who had not where it was stated that this assumptione had become
Lord HOLLAND said a few words respecting the law of for- I Insured were ha • , while those Who hid imam& „c10d.... inevitable. Defoe proceeding toexamination
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Asiture, intimating his intention of taking up
this subjectes,,.., smin a I Fromthireirconistence it mightfairly be snferred that the insurers- Witnesses, the Commissioners gave a written admo.
ihsture Session, if no other Noble Lord should brim
I t ---' ' bad sense influeacein the arrangement of the business. - e .
elo the point oeview in which he had stated his opinion some years,
Atter 4irious eaplaoations - from Lords Holland, Sidmotith, mu .
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on to two of them, who had been dependants of
ep on the discutsion of the Bill for continuing that law.
likicirsalieni and Mulgrays, the HOUSe-lesolFedtielf into a Com- 'Pippo? Sultaun, tenon ing of the bounty of the
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_settroit TIENDS. - *. . mime. British Government Which they had received, and its
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Some discussion took place on the Scots Thuds The different clauses of the JIM -underwent a diacossion. Kim- power to punish y and stating that it was expected
• The Earl of LAUDERDALE objected to eke whole of the telly they were all agreed us, and the House having retemeed
Judges of the Court of Sessiou silting al a Comaimiess OfTlends, tbe ,fit was ordered to be received on mouday. . . . t
i ' hat those who were indebted tots kanuity should do
edati on other cases, they were to be divided under the BiU Adjourned at twelve o'clock until to-morrow. . • .!. "- • their duty in things connected with its interest.-
body sent to the Commons, he. two Courts. He rhombi also . --- -,_ • e .., (Naar ! hear ! ) Such was. the mode of proceeding
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••that the Bill would he p•oave of injustice: ''' • ' -• • - - HOUSE OF. COMMONS, •: - • with regard to witnesses who were so completely ton-
The LORD CHAIICELLOR defended the BM, es tending to •
Sir JOHN SINCLAIR brought up the Report -oetzrid der the power of the English Government,- that in
introduce a good regulation with Suspect to the future applications
'Wheel Waggon Commhtee which was ordered to be p
of the Clergy for augmentation. ' Mr. ISNKINSON obtained leave to bring in a Bill to Wow such a case they would not, according to the rules of
.
, The Duke of MONTROSE also expressed his approbation of ,
_certain _ -evidence in this country, be Competent witnesses at
for 'carrying into. effect- the Act of the last
yek'sects_
the Bill, which was read i second time., and committed for to- smY
Samba, respecting the Tower Hamlets, it synth's brought in rad all. Notwithstanding this, notwithstanding al! the
morrow. feed a first, and ordered to be read a second time to-merrotv.
their efforts to get such evidence as might suit the end in
• DROITS OF ADMIRALTY.. ' A Message from the Lords acquainted the House, that
view, the witnesses declared that there was nothin
The Earl of SUFFOLK, after some preliminary observations Lordships had agreed to the Loan Bill, the. Irish Revenue Rep-
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upon the immense sum which bad accumulated from the late lesion Bill, and the Pauper Lunatics' Bill. hostile intended by W asholh or ()mint ul Omni:.
Danish captures and the right which the public had if being in- The Irish Spirits Duties .Bill, and the Trish Malt Duties Bill; The conclusion drawn from this was tinguler —it was
formed how there sums bad been appropriated, moved an humble were severally read a third tithe and passed. • that the witnesses themselves must, in ihe course of
Address to his Majesty, that he would please to direct the proper The W.eolwich Water "Works Bill being sent down from the
Mkee to lay before the H°••• a return of the proceedsa the Lords, with certain amendments, to which they desired the con- the transactions, have been engaged in something so
Danish ships, cargoes, &e. captured previous to a declaration of currence of the Commtins--the said amendments were ordered atrocious, that they did not dare to discover it. It
hostilities: to be Lead a second time this sliy. three months, but oa the sup.was assumed that the Nabobs must have been guilty,
Lord HAWKESBURY said, that upon inquiry this day he had gestion of the Speaker, , • '•- though there was no evidence of it—and that the rel.
, been Informed that all the cargoes had not as yet been disposed Mr. STIRLING obtainedleave •to bring in a Bill to the pia.M.
' of, and that no Appropriation whatever of the proceeds had been
made. Under-these circumstances, therefore, it was impossible
port of the said amendments. ,
The Chatham Lines Bill was read a third time and paned.
thateny regular returns could be made at present : he, therefore, The itish Customs Bill was-read a third time, passed and or.
suggested the propriety of the Noble FArl's withdrawing his me- dered to the Lorde. son for concealment was, that there was something so
• atrocious that they did not dare .to ciitchver it ! Ia
all the annals of injustice—in all the cases of outra-
oe.ous proceedings of unprincipled maing,l4 in the
I-don until the necessary returns could he proditc. ' The Scots Local Militia Bill was ordered to be read a third se barbarous •
Lord HOLLAND supported the motion of his Noble Friend. time tin Monday. • most times collected by Voltliffr"tbere was
The Droits of the Admiralty had of late years increased to a most Mr. WH AR.TON obtained leave to bring in a Bill to permit With nothing like this I . regard to the cypher, and
lenormous degree, and should be in some measure under the con- the importation of Italian Thrown Silk. the mysterious meaning supposed to lurk under ter-
' uoul of Parliament. He thought ParUsaietit had a right to be The Southern Whale Fishety Bill was mad a first time, and min expressions, the whole would be matter for ridi-
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Informed upon the subject, and was of opinion, that the public ordered to be read a second time to-Morrow ; as wag also the
cule, were
1 lead not been fairly dealt with. Under these cirennstancee he Painted and Stained Silks Manufactyre Bill. them it not for die dreadful consequences. Thf•
Mini, and trusted, his Noble Friend would persevere in his The Report of the Subdivisions Clerk Bill was received, and whole of mystery consisted indescriptions
gi vin g desert p
' motion. ordered to be printed ; as was also the Report of the Cape of instead of proper names, agreeable to the Eastern
I The Earl of SUFFOLK assured his Noble Friend, be would Good Hope 'Frade Bill, and the Bill ordered to be read a third. custom—such as calling Tippoo the Pillar of the
iWeer lase alsht of dm measure until he had accomplished his pur- time to-morrow, and then engrossed. - . r
' pose, aithar ia the pigeon or early in the next Session. As, how-Faith—the English the New Corners, &c. In this
The Land Tax Commissioners' Bit was read a third time, And
ever, the•retirns he Moght for could not be now procured, he ac- paned.
. quiesced kettles svmedm of.tlie Noble Secretary of State, and
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imi flat She present. The Assessed Taxes Bill was committed for Tuesday next. (Hear, hear !) He next adverted to the assertion,
The Coffee Customs and Coffee Excitie Bills were rert poed, and way, the whole of Gibbon's History was a cypher
wlthdrelvika
that there were doubts, whether the person designed
The mhos waiiiite rawn. ordered to be read a third time on Monday next: for the successor of Onottut Ul Omrah was his son ;
• • LOCAL MILITIA. The Stamp Duties Bill was reported, and ordered to be read a
Lord IiAWKESBURY -moved the order of the day, for the third time on Monday next. and to the ea ens displayed on every occasion, to
gern
k however imp robable, that could
House resolving heel( into 'a Committee upon this Bill. In offer- The Westminster Buildings improvement Bill was brought in catch at any ti sin ,
,Vithe motion to their Lordships he thought proper to observe, by Mr. Lenge-read efirst time, and ordered to be read a second afford a colour to the design. The next consideration
werful and superidr as our navy undoubtedly was to any time to-inorrow. wasemanner in which the youn Nabob had been
laser force that could be brought to act against it, still out navy, The Annuities Bird-was committed for Moisday..--The Lottery the -• fa
• unassisted by a military force, was not judged sufficient to place Billevu committed for to-morrow. • dragged from the death-bed of his other, en occasion
Atte security of the country beyond the teach ()revery hostile s,- . The Paymaster's General Bill Was read a second time and coca- to which the Mahornetans attached a peculiar solem.
tack. Fbr the increase of our military force, and to allow a freer mined for to-morrow.
and more extended scope to its exertions, was the present mea- - The Six Millions Exchequer Loan Bill was reed a first-time,
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nity. He described this transaction as indecent, ia.
human, and savage. 'When the extravagantly insult-
, cure framed-; and he was happy to add, that as far as it was and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow. .
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known throughout the country, the principle upon which it pro- The Spirits Regulation Bill was ordered to be read a third time ing proposition was made, that tile Civil and Military
ceeded, had been very generally approved. If it trenched at all on Monday. Government of the Carnatic should be delivered to
on the Volunteer system, it was not from any disapprobation of The Ale Licence Bill, the Prize Captures Bill, the Pelee Goods the Company ; the Cawns, appoitited by Orodut id
i the zeal and spirit by which the Volunteers must've aeknow- Bill, and the Post Horse Farming Duty Bill, were severally read a Omrah to advise his son, said that this was no treaty .
i'edged uniformly to have acted', but from a conviction that en-, third time, and passed.
couraglng the one system;. must counteract the success of the ARMY CLOTHING. . at all, for it was nacho. more nor less than an •endea.
other, which, after due cosideration, was under every eiroun- Mr. WARDLE gave notice that he would, on Thursday next, "nil - -
1:0 annihilate one of the -parties. Ali Hussein,
, stance of the county best calculated to answer the object which in compliance with their advice, refused to surrender
make a motion on the subject of .Army Clothing. .
Goveinwhich the general situation of the •
Empire -ment had in view, and
.. . IRISH PROVISIoNS. his right, and, as was observed by the. Commissioners,
called for.
' Sir WM CURTIS seeing a Right Honourable Gentleman in preserved a complacency during, the discussiOn, tat
-Lord SELKIRK did not rise to oppose going into the Corn-
his (the Chancellor of the Exchequer for Ireland) too to ask denoted internal satisfaction—well witttld it be for
'waft upon this Bill, for he sincerely concurred with the Noble . place • . •
Secretary of State in the sentiments he expressed with regard to the Might Hon. bring •
if it was the intention of that Gentleman to is those who had been engaged in this transaction, If
a Bill for allowing a E
Bounty on the • xportation of English Beef,
principle of the measure. He agreed that the measure shottiti be .
in rive yer Bill had d tor allow-n a Bounty on the they could feel that internal satisfaction. It was 4
made as conformable as possible with the civil occupationtof the Fas ' castof Irisha Beef. He wished to knowlg
if it was intended common maxim, that there was but a short time be.
subject :he agreed that, however zealous bad active the Volum- ,Fpo!tarion „
to bring in a Bill to continue the Act of the last year? tween the deposition of a Ptioce and his death. Si
leer force might be, and which he gavels amine credit, yet it. .
was not wholly to be depended upon; he regretted, hove- er, that .FOSTERreplied that there was no Beim the .
Mr.
.. . _ _ et on Expor- it„ 1,..- here. He did not mean, however, to
• Irish Beet •., of Salt. He ad-

his death unfairly. :144

happened
that this Prince came

say, that turn - _ _ by . _
did not know how that was, as he had no evidence
on the point. He concluded by expressing his asto-
nishment at the silence of Ministers On a question of
this imponance, which involved the Character -of the
nation.
-*RtAGFI said, that the sense of

Lord CASILER.x.- _ .
ParliaMent had already been taken upon the merits of
the case, and the proposed inquiry .was utterly incon-
sistent with the sentiment that had been expressed.
The speech of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman had
come too late. If such was his opinion of the tran-
saction and the conduct of Parliament, he ought to.
blush that he had not made the effort to prevent the
House .from coming
.to the decision which was now
past. If the transaction was of the character which
the Gentlemen opposite wished to ascribe to it, it was
impossible that it should have remained so long with.
out a decision. The thinness of their own ranks spewed