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the present King. Strange as it may appear, it
Easy to account for all these anarchical incon-
sistencies, because men take a confined view, cir-
cumscribed by self-interest and all its concomitant
.passions. When this is the case, he who consci-
entiously means to assist the State,. had better re-
tire to Ws closet, and first consider what wise men
have done when they found themselves in the
wrong ; let him next refer to the pages of History,‘
and more,, especially those of this country ; he-
sill find ample and irresistible proof of
the great and imminent, we may add, certain
danger of not keeping pure and undefiled the
'lame of the King and his family. Our late revered
Monarch, when he had been consulted on a de-
licate family subject, emphatically said_ to one of
the advisers of the present proceedings, " for
God's sake, let us keep to onrselve:; the faults of
.our own family, else what will the people think ?"
How. has it happened that the Noble Lord has
forgot this just remark ? for it must have made a
great impression on his mind ; we reasonably
fear, that he knows well enough that the sayings
of a King that is gone are not so essential as the
acts of one that is living. We conclude " Fiat
Justitia runt Ccelum," but let us at the same time
remember, that " fools rush in where angels fear
to tread."

[British Press.]
A Minority consisting of ninety-five Noblemen,
the most distinguished in the empire with refe-
rence to the moral character and princely for-
tunes of the individuals, does not, it seems, deter
the Alinisters of the Crown from endeavouring
to push the Bill •of Pains and Penalties
through • the remaining stages. The infatua-
tion 'that hurries them blindly into evil would
no doubt exercise the same unhappy influence
over their minds had their majority upon the
second reading been even more contemptible,
for assuredly even the Ministers themselves cannot
mistake their majority of twenty-eight, of which
their own immediate body and followers formed
so large a part, as a manifestation of the sense of
the- House of Lords in their favour, nor can they
deceive themselves into the presumption that the
public will regard the division on Monday as a
sufficient justification of so pernicious a measure.
Under all the circumstances of this case, and re-
flecting upon the constitution of the majority,
we have no hesitation in saying that a superiority
of 2.8 in point of numbers deserves no more con-
sideration than a superiority of one ;- for let the
names of the Ministers and place-holders, all of
whom are personally interested in this case as the
prosecutors, he removed from the list of :those
who voted for the Bill, as in common sense
and justice:ought to be done, and the majority
of numbers will then be -found opposed to the
_measure. But in a case of this nature is no •
consideration due to the characters, talents,
and personal influence of the Lords severally
composing the majority and minority ? Look
through the lists of both, and though on either
side will be found the narnes.of Noblemen distill-
guished alike for private and-public virtues, yet
who that is capable of appreciating the qualities
that ought to command respect and reverence in
a free and popular state, can hesitate to give the
preference to the list containing what is called
the Minority ? There are to be found talents
the- most commanding, wisdom the most pro-
found, political science the most enlightened
and comprehensive. If any weight be due to
the possession of wealth, among the Minority
are to be found' the largest proprietors of Eng-
land ; if ancestry be entitled to any influence,
there are to be found the representatives
of the noblest and most ancient families of '
England ; if disinterested patriotism, and virtue
in' its purest and noblest sense, can ensure the ve-
neration of the public, where shall this tribute
be paid, if not to many of the members of the mi-
nority ? They, in fact, constitute emphatically
the aristocracy of England, audit would be as
monstrous to imagine that their sentiments should,
not be embraced by the mass of the nation, a 3 to
believe that they were not formed by a conscien-
tiousregard to truth and justice.

A Meeting of the Inhabitants of the Parishes
of St. Giles in the Fields, and St. George, Blooms-
bury, was held yesterday in the Great Room at
the Freemasons"ravern. Mr. Wlws, one of
the Churchwardens, was called to the Chair—
and a suggestion, made by a Mr. Watson, that
nobody should be allowed to address the Meet-
in who was not an inhabitant *of one of the
above-mentioned parishes, was loudly and un-
animously ever-ruled. Letters were then read'
from the Marquis of Tavistock, Mr. Bennett, Sir
Robert Wilson, and Mr. Denman, representing
their inability to accept the invitation which they
had received from the Committee. No answers
had been returned by Sir Francis Burdett and
Mr. Irobhouse. Mr. Denman's letter was drawn
up in very warm terms, as it respected the late
decision of the Lords. The " servile vengeance"
of such a majority, he observed, could do little
injury to his magnanimous Client. Mr. P. Moore
and Sir Gerard Noel were present ; and the for-
mer addressed the meeting at considerable length.
An Address to her Majesty was then agreed to.

Firu AT THE CUSTOM 1101.:S'E.-Yesterday af-
ternoon..a fire broke out in the stationary room,
in consequence of some paper which had been
placed to air having become ignited. The wains
cot and fixtures took" fire, and great- alarm for
sonic time prevailed. By the timely arrival of en-
gines, however, the. flames were soon got under,
after having destroyed the interior of the room,
a large quantity of books, loose 'papers, printed
forms, &c., but none, we believe, of any great
importance.
After the breaking up of the House of Lords
yesterday, many of the Peers, and particularly
the Duke of WELLINGTON and the Marquess of
ANGLESEA, were insulted by a mob at the, corner
of Parliament-street. Several of the disorderly.
persons were taken,into custody by the Police,
who on this occasion displayed that promptitude,
with which insults to the laws and institutions of
the cotultry should always be repressed.

THE QUEEN:-;

HOUSE OF LORDS (THIS DAY), Nov. 8.

The LORD CLIA:NcELLoit came to the House at
the usual hour, and prayers were then read,
after which dm House was called over. Excuses
were made for several Peers. Lord BERESFORD
came into the House during the call, and was
immediately sworn in as a Peer of Parliament.

The Earl of LIVERPOOL moved that the Bishop
of Bristol should be excused from further atten-
dance on the House, on account of the duties he
had to discharge in two of the Universities.
Lord KENYON said, that if his Majesty thought
proper to appoint a Prelate who held situations
in two of the Universities, which he must attend
to, it was evident he could not discharge his
duty in thaf House. He meant no disrespect to
the Right Rev. Prelate, but as he had a duty to
perform in the House, strong reasons should be
given for excuses.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said he might call
their Lordships' attention to the manner in which
the Bishop had attended and discharged his duty.
He did not wish this to be, by any means, a ge-
neFal principle, that because he held such situa-
tions, but he trusted that in considei ation of the
pecbliar circumstances of the case, they would
dispense with his further attendance. '
Lord REDESDALE said that the objections of
the Noble Lord (Kenyon) as to the Right Rev.
Prelate holding such situations would apply
equally to the army and navy, and therefore he
saw nothing in it.
Lord KEN YON, in explanations observed, he
should be sorry if it was for a moment inferred
that he objected to the promotion of the Right
Rev. Prelate, for he believed that every one
concurred in the propriety of the appointment of
the Bishop of Bristol. Nor did he mean to re-
flect on the Noble Earl opposite, wlibse inacence
with respect to the Church, as far as he knew,
had been exerted in favour of worthy men.
The LORD CHANCELLOR then put the question,
which was agreed to nem, con.
Lord HoLLAND rose and said, that yesterday
he was absent from indisposition, which pre-
vented his taking part in the proceedings of the
House. He had since learnt that in his absence
aformal Dissent had been Put on the Journals,
to which he was anxious to affix his signature,
but he was prevented by a standing order of the
House, on account of his absence at the time.
He had heard the arguments at the Bar, and the
discussions in the House on this unconstitutional
and unnecessary Bill; which he considered to be
disproved in its allegations, and hazardous in its
consequences. He therefore now begged the
House to allow him to enter his name among the
dissentients from it.
The Earl of DARNLEY also wished to have the
same privilege granted to other Peers, who now
wished to enter their names.

Lord llomANn said, that names might be en-
tered and signed in any way before the rising of
the House, which was now fixed at four o'clock ;
but in ordinary cases such entry and signing
could not be effected till after four o'clock, but
the hours were more limited now.

The Earl of MINTo was desirous of putting
his name to the Dissent, and would move that
the Standing Order, in this respect might be dis-
pensed with.
The Earl of DARNLEY was persisting in his
motion, when

The' Earl of LAUDERDALE. moved that the
Standing Order should be read, which was im-
mediately done:

Lord if 0 LI, AND could only say from his expe-
rience of their proceedings, that he believed many
such applications had been heard, and he never
knew them opposed till now.
Another Standing Order was then read from
the table.

The Earl of DARNLEY moved, that the Duke
of Devonshire, Viscount Bolingbroke, and some
other Peers, should also be allowed to sign their
names.

The Earl of LAUDERDALE had no objection to
the measure, but he wished it to be done regu-
larly. If it was not for a special notice, which
ought to be given to the House, let them consider
if there could be a more direct violation of their
Standing 'Orders than this, and if so, they might
as. well abolish the Standing Orders at once.
Lord HOLLAND knew that the regular course
vas to move a suspension of the Standing Order.
He did not apprehend that mischief which the
Noble Earl (Lauderdale) thought was likely to
ensue from a different course.

The Marquess of LANSDOWNE took occasion to
state, that the first proposition vas in favour of
his Noble Friend (Holland), now near him, but
the next proposition was much stronger in its
nature.

The Earl of LIVERPOOL did not see much im-
propriety, if any, in acceding to the proposi-
tion first made to the House ; if their Lord-
ships had standing rules for the Order of the
House, it was desirable to attend to them.
As to the Noble Lord who first addressed
their Lordships, he had stated this indisposition
as preventing him from coming down, and there-
fore his request should be complied with ; but
then, if Noble Lords wished the same excuse on
the ground of forgetfulness, the question took an-

other shape, and it was quite another thing.—
He would, indeed, state a case where the power
was expressly given to Noble Lords, on account
of pecular circumstances, to enter their names for
the dissent for two or three days before they went
into Westminster-Hall. In this instance (the case
was Lord 'Melville's Impeachment) there was some
reason for deviating from their rules. If Noble
Lords could not plead the circumstance of ill
health, but retired on the score of omission, then
excuse could not be attended to. Ile hoped,
how€ ver, that this would not be drawn into a fu-
ture precedent.
The Loan Cit.4.NceLLon was satisfied that ac-
cording to the practice of their Lordships, the
motion would not be carried, but upon a notice(
to the House, which must afterwards be brought
under consideration. This, he apprehended,
was the only way in which the question could be
regularly disposed of; but, at the same time,
he could assure the House that he had no ob-
jection to any sort of accommodation they
might be inclined to accord to the Noble Baron
(Holland) whom he had in his eye, for he knew
too well from experience the nature of his dis-
ease not to make all allowances for the abrupt-
ness and the uncomfortableness of its attacks; but
there was a great difference between bodily and
mental disease, particularly when the latter had
been incurred through negligence of any sort.
When there was no pretence for ill health, he
must object to what the Scottish nation called a
snug way of getting names. Before two o'clock
yesterday, he did not know how their Lordships
should act, and he could only add his good wishes
on behalf of the Noble Baron, who was most
clearly entitled to the indulgence of the. House.
The Earl of DARNLEY complained that the
Noble and. Learned Lord on the Woolsack had
made a direct attack on his mental faculties, such
as they. were. He was surprized the Noble Lord
objected to any forgetfulness in him, when that
Noble Lord had tolerated so many " Non mi
Ricordos" at the Bar.
Lord ERSKINE wished to add his name to the
Dissent then entered on the Journals of the
House, but he asked it not as a matter of indul-
gence but as a matter of right.
Lord HOWARD (of Effingham) was understood
to complain of sonic misrepresentation of his sen-
timents which appeared in The Times Newspa-
per of yesterday. The Noble Lord made no
motion on the subject.
The Earl of DARNLEY explained.
The LORD CHANCELLOR here put the ques-
tion, if it was the pleasure of their Lordships to
make the standing Order with respect to the
signing and entering Dissents for to-morrow's
consideration ?—The question was agreed to.