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that House, whenever an order had dropped, not to
revive it without a specific notice. If this was a ge-
neral rule, it should hold particularly in a case of
such importance as the present. The Bill in question
had deservedly excited a great portion of the public
i and that interest had not been lessened by
t}liteere rumours ; ours that had been so very prevalent, perhaps
unfounded, but not altogether discredited, that the
great principle of the Bill would be compromised.—
lie was anxious, therefore, that the public should be
satisfied that every advantage of a fall, fair, and ade-
quate discussion had been afforded to the measure.—
He hoped that on these grounds the Hon. Gentleman
would have the goodness to let the order for going
intq, ComMittee stand for to-morrow, and he was
sure that his Hon. Friend near him (Mr. Whitbread)
' would have no objection to give way, by postponing
his motion that stood for to-morrow, to a future day.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, that he was very far from being disposed to
give any obstruction to the motion of his Honourable
Friend ; and could not conceive why the Right Hon.
Gentleman who had just sat down, should think that
I there could not now be as full and as ample a discus-
sion of the measure, in so very full an attendance, as
at a future day. However, he did not wish to press
the motion at preient, since the Right Honourable
Gentleman seemed to think it would be attended with
so much inconvenience to his friends. He did en-
tirely agree with him, that the Bill was one of great
importance, and had excited a great portion of the
public attention ,• for that reason he was most anxious
that the least delay possible might occur, before the
sentiments of the House upon the subject, in its present
circumstances, should go forth to the Country ; and
he was the more anxious on this ground, because a
very general misunderstanding hod arisen without
doors, both upon the measure itself, and the late
proceeding thereupon. That misunderstanding had
been most industriously excited ; he would not say
with what view, nor from what motives, but certainly
it had been most actively disseminated. For himself
he was free to declare what, in his humble opinion,
should be the main object of that House in its further
proceedings on this measure—so to arrange and model
the Bill, as that they might not send up to the other
House the same Bill which that other House had al-
ready rejected ; and if they could so qualify the Bill
as to ensure the concurrence of the other House,
without vitally affecting its principle, lie did think
i that the House in that case would have accomplished
HOUSE OF COMMONS. 1 its object. But if any Bill which had been rejected
Sir GEORGE NUGENT, the Chairman of the Diingarven
by
Committee, reported at the Bar that the Sitting Member was - the other House should be again sent up to them,
duly elected ; and that the Petition was not frivolous or wale Gentlemen must feel, that the Lords would in that
thee. ; case jealously assert their own privileges, and consult
Mr. JOHNSTONE presented at the Bar certain accounts re- their honour and dignity as one of the Houses of Par-
specting Meynooth College. liament, in rejecting. at once any attempt to'force
Sir F. BURDETT presented a Petition from certain inhabi-
upon them a measure they had already negatived.—
tares of Westminster against the Vauxhall Bridge bill.
Sir THOMAS TURTON gave notice that he would to-mor- I He, for his part,-should cheerfully accede to the
row submit to the House a Motion respecting the Peti: ion of the proposition of his Honourable Friend, but at the same
Journeymen Bakers. I tune, if it would -be so inconvenient to the Right
NEWRY El E-TION. . Honourable Gentleman now to go into Committee,
The following Gentlealen were ballotted as a Committee to
Inc should not resist any arrangement for mutual ac-
try tie merits of this contested Election :
Lloyd Wardell Lord Yarmouth commodation.
Archibald Cjiquhoun Lord Bingham 'l'he SPEAKER thought it necessary to apprize
1 hIrIAS Pabiegton Thomas Bligh . the House, that no order being dropped, was revived
V'. 'l1=•; for R. W. Howard Vyse lof course ; unless a general upderstanding in any
Hon. kred. Townshend George Johnstone
A new Wilt was ordered for the Burghs of Dornoc;:, Ste. in the particular case dispensed with the general usage, it
room of Sir A. Mackenzie, who kad aeccpted the place of Ste- . was otherwise competent for any Honourable Mem-
ward of tl.e Chiltern Hundreds. i tier to object to any motion grounded on such order.
Mr. PARNELL rote to ash the Right Honourable Gentleman Mr. BAN ICES said, that he should be governed by
oppoelte (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) whether it was his in-
tention to move for a new writ in the room of an Honourable the opinion of the Chair, and therefore should now
Gentleman who had been recently appointed to the Governmeut : merely move, that the House do to-morrow resolve
as:eine-it ? That Gentleman had yesterday occasioned the ad- i itself into a Committee on the Bill for prohibiting the
journmcnt of a Committee on which he s-se, and on which he,
grant of Reversions, Stc. for a time to be limited.
Mr. Pirnell, was also a Member, and the alleged ground of that I Mr TIERNEY, before the question was put,
adjournment was, that that Gentleman had to attend the Court, I •
in order to be presented to his Majesty. His object in risirg was I wished to know from the Right Honourable Gentle-
to know if the Right Honourable Gentleman was apprized of that 1 man opposite, if it was his intention to propose in the
appointment ; and if it did not, of course, vacate the seat of the I Conlnlitt.-e any amendments, of a nature
import-
person so appointed ? ant as to effect materially the principle and constitu-
-1 be SPEAKER wished to know, if the House were to under-
stand that it was the intention of the Hon. Member to ground Lion of the Bill ? He wished, in short, to know the
any proceeding upon the statement he had just made ? object of the Right Honourable Gentleman's amend-
Mr. PARNELL replied, that that would depend upon the an- meats.
swer given by the Right Honourable Gentleinan : if the appoint-
ment was acknowledged, he should then feel it his duty to move The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
for a new writ writ ferthwith. i replied, that in any amendments he might feel it his
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that he I uuty to offer, his sole object would be to prevail upon
was not quite sure that the Honourable Gentleman had actually i that House to let the Bill so go out of it as to ensure
ascertained the appointment of the Nleinber in question to the as far as could be done, the concurrence of the Lords,
Government of Surinam; and before that appointment was
ascertained, he did think that it wotild be rather premature to 1 to make the Bill now before the House substantively
move for a new writ before the vacancy had actually occurred. I different from that which had been already rejected
It was, however, a matter of doubt, and it would be therefore Iby the upper House. He knew not that it would be
more advisable for the Honourable Gentleman not to press any I necessary for him to suggest any amendment to the
motion than, but to give notice that he would move for a new 1
writ to-morrow. i Committee, nor was he at all anxious to engraft any
Mr. PARNELL acceded to the suggestion of the Right Hon. I amendment on the Bill, but in the way and for the
Gentleman ; but said, that he had no reason to doubt the authen- purpose he had already stated.
ticity of his information, as he had it from no less an authority I
than the Right Hon. Gentleman himself} Mr. CALCRAFT felt for the embarrassme of nt
1 the Right Honourable Gentleman; for certainly' he
CONSOLIDATED FUND.
Mr. HUSKISSON said, that he had no doubt that the House . did appear in relation to the present Bill, to be ra-
would see much reason to be gratified with the statement which ther awkwardly circumstanced, but he (Mr. Calcraft)
he had to make with respect to the considerable encrease for the could not help expressing his surprize, that the Right
last year, in the surplus of the Consolidated Fund. It had consi- ; ale g
Honourable Gentleman after h 'n given a specific
derahly exceeded the usual estimates. The surplus of the former
year, had amounted to three millions five hundred thousand notice of moving two amendments in the Committee,
pounds, which was thought at that time a very considerable en- should not now be prepared to state, whether he
crease. The surplus, however, for the last year, unmounted to : meant to press those amendments or not. He did
not lets than bur millions and a half, and the surplus for the think, that the Right Honourable Gentleman, in
quarter now ending exceeded that of the corresponding quarter of cou rtes to the House, and in justice to his own con-
the former year, by six hundred thousand pounds. He then,moved., y
that there be laid before the House an Account of the Surplus ' sistrney, ought to answer " yes" or " no," to the
of the Consolidated Fund for the year ending the stil April, 1808.. plain question proposed to him.
Mr. TIERNEY wished that the accounts should be so made up, ii The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
as that the corresponding quarters might he severally distinguished; .
was of opinion, that all that the courtesy of that
to which Mr. Huskisson assenting, the motion was agreed to.
It EVIERS:ONARY GRANTS. i House, or his own consistency could require of him
Mr. BANKES (being called upon from all quer- to say, he had said Already. He felt grateful for the
tern of the House) rose and said, that there now ap- I Honourable Gentleman's compassion, but confessed
pealed to be so full an attendance, he should be glad, I he was not conscious of the embarrassment that, had
though the order had been dropped, to take that op- I excited it, and shrewdly suspected that the Hon.
portuaity of moving, that the Speaker do now leave J Gentleman had been endeavouring to transfer to him
the Chair, for the purpose of going into Committee ', (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) an awkwardness
on the Bill for preventing the Grant of Reversions, I that was all his own ; for the Honourablepentleman
for a time to be limited. He hoped, it would not be : seemed to be alarmed at the idea of the Bill going to
attended with any inconvenience to Gentlemen of the other House with less obstruction than he had at
either side, as upon a subject of such importance it first anticipated. It would, however, be the object
was desirable to avoid all unnecessary delay—( Hear, of all he might have to offer upon that subject, to free
hear 0 the Bill from every obstruction possible, and to render
Mr. TIERNEY said, he should be the last man 1 it as acceptable to the Lords as it could be made,
to occasion any unnecessary delay in the discussion of which appeared to him to be the most efficacious way
'to
a subject that had excited so much of the attention of secure its ultimate enactment.
the public, but he did think that in proportion to its Mr. CALCRAFT said, in explanation, that it was
importance it should be entitled to a fair and adequate his wish that it slsonld go to the Lords as free from
consideration. There were several Gentlemen now obstruction as possible, but confessed himself to be
absent who had taken a particular interest .in that totally at a loss to understand either the amendments
measure, and who had they known that the discus- of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, their objects, or
sion would have come on to-day, would have attend-' the answer nowgiven by that Right Hon. Gentleman
e-
ed in their places ; they did not, however, think that to the question put to him.
it would have come on, nor had they any right to Mr. BANKES wished to say one word in answer to
expect it would,. as it was the established usage of an insinuation that had fallen from a Right Honour-

head-quarters of the Grand Vizier at Adrimople, -
passed through Constantinople.
The English squadrons continue to have the ex-
clusive dominion of the Archipelago ; their vessels,
as well as 'the_ Maltese cruizers, carry the English
flag; they seize all Turkish vessels, as well as all those
which issue from a Turkish port. On the Bth of Ja-
nuary, the Captain of the frigate Seaorse, (Sea-horse)
John Stewart, who commands a division, addressed
a Proclamation to the inhabitants of the Cyclades, in
the name of Admiral Coliingwood, in which he an-
nounces to them the close blockade of the Darda-
nelles, and the ports of Egypt. He adds, that he
has orders to seize all Turkiih vessels, even those con-
cerned in the boasting trade, but that he will grant
passports to all vessels sailing to and from Malta.—
The commerce in the Levant is in a state of absolute
stagnation. •

PiiRLIAMEMART PROCEEDINGS.

HOUSE OF LORDS, APRIL 6.
The Irish ret India Trade till, and the Irish Warehousing
Bill, passed thrcugh Committees, a:td were reported.
The further consideration of the Irish Appeal Cause, Hill V.
Spence, being resumed, the LORD CHANCELLOR, after sum.:
further observations upon the case, moved a Resolution as the
decision of their Lordships, which, in effect, went partly to affirm
the judgment of the Irish Court, and to refer certain other parts of
the case back for further consideration, which, or the question
being put, was ordered accordingly.

ORDERS IN COUNCIL. •
The House having resolved itself into a Committee on the pe-
titions against the Orders in Council,
Mr. BROUGHAM vary ably and perspicuously summed up
the evidence adduced in support of the petitions, and cumitent
ed upon the most material parts of it; contending, that it was
proved that the decrees of tL, enemy had not been enforced until
the Orders in Council were issued ; that the latter measures thing
a countersign to the decrees of the enemy, and enabled him to
execute it; that the effect would be, the loss of the Continental
trade through America, which took off three-fourths of the Bri-
tish manufactures exported to the United States ; and with res-
pect to the embargo, that the substance the Orders in Coun-
cil were known at Washington previous to that measure was
resorted to. The Learned Gentleman concluded a speech of up-
wards of two hours, by making an eloquent appeal to the Com-
mittee, on the general result of the evidence adduced, as shewiog
the impolicy of continuing the Orders us Council.
The House having resumed,
Los d GRENVILLE gave notice of his intention to move, on
an early day after the recess, an Address to his Majesty, praying,
that his Majesty would be graciously pleased to revoke the Orders
in Council. His Lordship said, he could not precisely fix the slay,
but it would be between the sth and the 10th of May.
Adjourned till to-morrow (this day).