The Sun.
London, England, 1827-05-07 00:00:00

FISH-MARKET, BILLINGSGATE.

This day's market exhibited a fair-supply of all kinds of
fish, which met with a tolerably brisk sale. Mackarel are
scarce and very dear ; the wholesale price is about 5/. per
long hundred, and are retailed at le. and Is. 3d. each ;
Soles are plentiful and sell at low prices ; Turbot is very
fine, it varies in price according to the site •of the fish,
prime large ones sold from 20s. to 15s. each. Large
Salmon, Is. 6d. per lb. small ditto, Is. 3d. Salmon Trout,
Is. per lb. Mullets, 245. per dozen, Fine Haddocks, from
3d. to ls. 6d. each; large Cod Fish, of 201 b. to 801 b.
weight, from 4s. to ss. each ; small ditto, 6s. per doz.
Good sized Whitings, from ss. to Ss. per dozen. Large
Guard Fish, of about 31b. weight, Is. each. Hollibut,
4d. per lb. ; prime Eels, from 4d. to 6d. per lb. ; Yes-
nots Is. 6d. each ; good sized Diamond Place, from 2s.
to 4e. per dozen ; Lobsters more in abundance, but sold
very high ; large Crabs were from 15s. to 12s. per score ;
native Oysters, 20s. per bushel ; Colchester do. 2s. 4d.
common ditto, Ss. 6d. ; fine Prawns, 3s. per lb. and
Shrimps, from 2s. to 3s. per gallon. Salt Salmon, 345.
per cwt. ; do. Ling and Cod, 148. do. ; new Cod Sounds,
in barrels weighing 151bs. ss. 6d. each ; Yarmouth lied
Herrings, from 6s. to 4s. per hundred ; white salt ditto,
4s. ; Smoked Haddocks, Ss. per hundred. A few kits of
Newcastle Pickled Salmon arrived this morning ; but it
sells very high. The price of a kit weighing 451bs. is 50s.

ALTERATIONS IN THE MAILS.—A Meet-
ing of the Mail Coach Contractors was held in
this city on Tuesday, in order to make arrange-
ments for the intended alterations about to take
place in the times of arrival and departure of the
London and other Mails.—The alterations com-
mence on Sunday next, on which day the Mail
from London will reach this city by, six in the
evening, and will depart for London at seven
o'clock the following morning.... York Chronicle.

SECOND EDITION:
SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT

HOUSE OF LORDS.

Their Lordships met to-day at Four o'clock.
Lord FIFE, took the oaths and his seat.
Lord FITZWILLIAM presented a petition from the
Merchants and Manufacturers of Leeds, praying that their
Lordships might take into their consideration the state of
the trade now carried on between this country and India.
Ordered to be laid on the table.
The House adjourned at a quarter-past four during
pleasure, and resumed at five o'clock.
CATHOLIC CLAIMS.

The Bishop of CHESTER presented a petition from
Chester against any further concessions to the Catholics.
The Right Rev. Prelate assured their Lordships that he had
not, as was imputed to him, interfered in getting up the
meeting with which the petition originated.
After a few words from Earl GROSVENOR, the pe-
tition was laid on the table.
The Duke of SUSSEX, in presenting a Petition from
the Roman Catholics of Connaught praying for Emanci-
pation, said ;hat his opinions on that subject were perfectly
unaltered. It was a question of the deepest importance, and
it was but wise, that in endeavouring to get justice for the
Catholics, theirf riends should go with the feeling of the
country, and not to at with violence or attempt to influence
the public mind. The question required time and consi-
deration, and as it had never been so, it ought not now he
made a question of party, it had hitherto been left open
to every man to vote for it as he pleased—as such continued
his Royal Highness, I have voted for it, and as such I will
vote for it; but if it is to be made the standard of a party,
I most certainly will not leud my hand to it.
The petition was ordered to be laid on the table.
NEW ADMINISTRATION.

The Marquis of LONDONDERRY, in moving for a
return of the exact state of his Majesty's present Ad-
mini.t! aion, said, I want to know in 'what position
the present Government of his Majesty stands. Will the
Noble Lord on the opposite side rise and state to the House
that it is not a Provisionary C,;vernment ? Are we to
understand that there are shadows in- the great Offices
of State? My Lords, I have read very lately a his-
tory about the Shadowless man, but in my opinion
on the present occasion there is a First Lord of the Trea-
sury with many shadows. But I want to know in
what state the Foreign Department is as contrasted with
the state of the late Government. I understand there
has been a very considerable expendeiture incurred lately I be-
lieve further that the First Lord of his Majesty's Treasury,
if I am informed rightly has within a very short time—
I won't say received, hut that he has made his ground sure
whether he remains in office or not, that he has actually
received, or is to receive a pension of three thousand
pounds per annum for his services. Now, I want

to know exactly in what condition that office is, and it is,

therefore, with a view of having that knowledge, that I
shall humbly propose to your Lordships for the return I am
now going to move for. My Lords, if the Noble Lord on the
other side will state distinctly that it is not a provisionary
Government, I do declare that I will then on no account
press' my motion; but I am determined, continually
and repeatedly to call upon him and this House
from this night to the end of the Session, if necessary, to
state that point. lam sure, my Lord, the Noble Secretary
of State, who holds that office temporarily, would be very
much obligedito me to have the return I now call for, because

it would give him an opportunity of seeing the very large
of patronage that is to be disposed of. It is said there is a
very great great desFre existing to have the office of First Lord
of the Treasury, on account of thepatronage that is attached
to the office. Certainly I have always allowed that there
are frequently reasons for giving great favours, and those
favours I believe have been given on the present occasion to
Noble Lords who have passed over from this to the other
side of the House ; but it would be very satisfactory for us
to learn what return the First Lord of the Treasury
has to make. lam told, that in a very short time we
shall see him the Secretary of War—that he will take the
office of Chancellor of the Exchequer, and that we shall
have a First Lord of the Treasury in Ireland. Now when
no man will tell me that the present arrangement is not
provisional, I wish to examine into the grounds on
which this great love for office is established. God
Gop ! when we see the changes that have taken place
in the Government, whiCh has been, by the wisdom of our
ancestors, or by the most wise and greatest men in the
state, established upon a regular system when we see
they overset—l speak with great hanaility, 'for I know no-
thing of the present Ministry ;'lint I will speak as an of-
ficer with respect to the army, and I will say, that looking
at this arrangement, I cannot for the life of me understand
how it is to be conducted, unless it is meant to throw the
whole management of the army into the hands of a Minis-
ter, and that I most strenuously' oppose. Let us always
have an individual to take this department, who would be
able to select good officers—who would be competent to
give officers their merits and promotion, and who would
serve with them in the field ; but if our army is to
be directed by a Secretary at War, why that is quite
a different thing. And it is not only in this department,
but I will say, in all the departments of office, there is a
complete and entire deficiency, and for this reason, that
nobody knows whether those now in office are to retain their
offices or not. I say, and when 1 state that I see my Noble
Friend opposite me, let it be understood that no one has more
' private friendship for him than I have, but when I see him
on the other side of the House, haying, in his ranks the
champions of Reform, and who have passed over from this
side of the House, I declare I think there is a revolution in
the opinions and feelings and sentiments of this country
that is enough to paralyse every rational man.—(Laugh-
ter. )----My Lords, I will not trouble your Lordships further
though I declare to my Noble Friend, that I shall on every
occasion bring the thing forward, humble as I am and in-
adequate as I may be to the task, but forward I will bring
it until the information is produced, I now call for, be-
cause I would not press for it if I did not see by the state
of the country, one of the most contemptible arrangements
that ever was proposed to the British nation. I beg
leave to guard myself against saying or using a word that
has regard to any local circumstances, but at present there
is the most degrading the most mean arrangement to arrest
and stop the fair declaration and opinion of the country
that could possibly have existed. Good God ! When the
Noble Lord who used to head the House on this side, can
go over to the other side and lay himself down among
others, is he to delay till that period arrives when all the
great business of the House is over, bringing forward the
information now called for, and that then we are to be
turned to the right about,—(Great laughter)—are to re-
main here having our hands tied behind us from this moment
to the end of the Session, without gnowing the Govern-
ment? I cannot hut look ilea to the names of Pitt and
Fox; and looking at those names, I would ask, would
they ever have entered into such a Government as
this, under a declation that it stands as a Provisional
Government ? Now, if the Noble Lord will stand up and
state in the face of the House, that that is not the case,
then I will waive the calling for those papers, which I shall
now propose to have brought forward ; but, if not, I will
day after day, and time after time, do my duty to my
country with -respect to what I conceive to be con-
temptible and an imposition on every honest man that
my firm and honest opinion (Much laughter)—(a long
pause)—l will go a little further before I sit down—
(Loud and , long continued laughter. )—lf the state
of things continues," I shill certainly feel it my
duty, although I do not profess to be able to
prove before this House what I have `heard, yet Kival feel
it my duty to submit to this House, the reports that
are- in circulation.—Bursts of laughter.i—Now, in respect
to thoie reports nothing is so easy as a simple and distinct
contradiction; and if I hear that contradiction given,
I will not only apologise to your Lordships for having
unnecessarily occupied your time, but acknowledge that
I have been guilty of a most unpardonable indiscretion—
(Hear !) ; if not, I 'will state to this House, and to the

country, all the details that have come to my ears, with re-
spect to this provisional Government. And though I may be
arrested in tbis House—though I may be attempted to be
written down by the vile and venal press of this country—
though that press may ridicule me, and endeavour to place
me in a situation which, I will venture to say, would be
very painful to any man before the public.—(Laughter.)
whether I am arrested in this House, or put down by a
venal press I say.—(Hear, hear, from the Opposition, and
great laughter.)—l will tell them both that all their satire
passes by me as the idle wind, which I regard not
—(continued laughter)—and I will stand up here and
distinctly state those reports which I have heard, and
which may, perhaps, induce Noble Lords in this place
and persons in another place to deny distinctly what
is alleged in public.—(Loud cries of hear. )—This is said
that a certain great and eminent Barrister did make certain

overtures, not only with respect to himself and his party,
but with respect to a Noble Marquis and his party to the
first Lord of the Treasury. I state what I now say from
mere rumour—(hoar hear, from the Opposition benches)
—but if it be not true, nothing can be easy as to deny it.

But it is stated, that those overtures were received and
put up into his pocket. It is stated that no communication
of those overtures was made to his colleagues, subsequently
the First Lord of the Treasury went to Windsor, and while
there, as I am informed, certain use was made of thoSe
communications; .but without entering into what passed
at WiuJ .or, I will say that the ren.:4 hns proved what
took . On a future occasion I may perhaps go into
details, but at present we see the Learned Advocate to whom
I have alluded, but the Noble Marquis too, ar-
ranged on the other side of the House.—(Hear,
hear. )—Prom what I can understand too, the
colleagnes of the First Lord of the Treasury were ignorant
of all this till a fortnight afterwards, and entirely igno-
rant of any use having been made of the overtures being made
at Windsor. Now you may talk of a Cabal, but if those

reports are proved, there is another word to be made use of

. .
which I must call something like intrigue. If those reports
be true, that the Noble Lord should have received those over-

tures, and that subsequently the negotiation should have
proved their effect ; I do think the country will record
something like what occurred in our annals in the year 1800.
When the Secretary of State for the Home Department
heard of this communication, he expressed his surprise that
it should have been in the possession of the Right Hon.
Gentleman for ten or fourteen days, and yet be kept secret
by him. I have no information on these points.--
(Cheers and laughter. )---I admit that I have no information
I declare to my God that I have none.—(Continued laugh-
ter.)—l speak entirelp from report, and until that be un-
contradicted, lam bound to believe it. If what I charge
these Noble Lords with be untrue, I will throw myself on
their indulgence, and most heartily beg their pardon ;
but if the provisional C. wernment exist, I will sift all
the circumstances, and trust that in the end we will see
ranged against us an intelligent Administration. As to
the Noble Marquis who has lately left this side of
the House, he is like a fish in the water, propelled by his
tail, for I understand that he has been urged on by the
tail of hisparty. The Noble Marquis then proceeded to
express his regret that a Noble Marquis, who lately held
the House in admiration of his talent, should have de-
stroyed that high opinion which they had entertained
of him, by consenting to act as second at the op-
posite side of the House. It was a matter of surprise
that the Marquis of Lansdown—(Loud cries of Order)
*that the Noble Marquis of Lansdown, who was
leader or t:;•: OppOsition should be now stationed as he is,
on the Ministerial Benches. The Noble Marquis con-
cludeded by moving for several returns, of which the
following is the substance. A return of the appointments
in the Foreign Department at home and abroad, including
the name,rstation, and emoluments of the persons appointed,
together with the total expenditure of the Foreign Depart-
ment.

Several Returns connected with the expenditure of the
Foreign Depirtment.
A return of the names, rank, and station of persons allowed
to retire upon pensions, specifying the circumstances under
which they have received their pensions.
A Return of the persons appointed to situations in the
Foreign Department at home and abroad, specifying the
cause of the appointments.

Lord DUDLEY, after defending his conduct in accept-
ing office, which he did when the services of every subject
was more than usually necessary to his Sovereign, express-
ed a hope that the Noble Marquis would withdraw his
motion for the present, and give notice for a future day.
He pledged himself to their Lordships that every exertion
should be made meanwhile to furnish the required infor-
mation if possible.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said that as
the papers were made out quarterly, no great delay
could arise in furnishing them. He had, however,
no disposposition to press the matter, but he was deter-
mined in getting at all necessary information. The
The Noble Marquis heard that great alterations were con-
templated at the Foreign Offiee, amongst other things he
learned that it was intended to build a magnificent house
for the Foreign Secretary.—(Hear, hear.)
After some further conversation the Noble Marquis with-
drew his motions, with notice that he would renew them
on Thursday next.

The Rail: of WINCIIELSEA informed their Lordships
that he had not made up his mind as to the day when
he should • submit his motion his motion respecting
the state of the nation. He would be prepared,
however, to inform their Lordships, very shortly,
whut time he should fix.
CORN BILL.
. _

After a long conversation, in which several Noble
Lords took part, it was arrranged that the Corn Bill
should be read a second time next Friday week.

(Left Sitting. )

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

The Speaker took the Chair this evening at the hour,
and upon the door being opened, the gallery was immedi-
ately Med.
Several new Members were then sworn at the table,
amongst others the Hon. Wm. Lamb, who had vacated
hiiieat by accepting the office of Secretary for Ireland.
Mr.-MAURICE FITZGERALD withdrew his motion
on the State of Ireland, which stood for to-morrow evening.
The Marquis of CHANDOS said, that the Hon. Gen-
tleman having changed his seat since he had given notice
of the motion in question, sufficiently accounted for the
withdrawal of that motion, The Hon. Gentleman and
those who, like him, had changed their seats, did not feel it
convenient, nor were not at liberty now to express the
opinions which they held when at the Opposition side_
(Hear, hear.)—But he (the Marquis of Chandos) would
inforin t ~,se Honourable Gentlemen, that if they failed to
express the opinions they so lately held, the country would
know to what the change of sentiment ought to be
ascribed—(Hear, hear,)—and the character of an English
Whig would n 3 longer be an object of admiration.
Mr. M. FITZGERALD said, he did not feel himself at
all accountable for acting according to his own discretion
in withdrawing any motion, less of all was he accountable
to those who opposed every proposal for the improvement
of that country which his motion was intended to affect.—
(Hear, hear.)
Sir T LETHBRIDGB rose tc order. He submitted
that there was no question before the House.
The SPEAKER said, that the Hon. Member un-
questionably was out of order, but he wished Hon.
Members who were watching the regularity of the pro-
ceedings, would have the impartiality to interfere before
an Hon. Member had spoken on one side of the question.
—(Hear, and laughter).

Upon the presentation of a petition from Chester, by
Lord BELCRAVE, against any further concession to the
Roman Catholics,
Sir H. HABDINGE rose to express his surprise at the
extraordinary manner in which Hon. Members at the Mi-
nisterial sides attempted to smother the Catholic question.
It was not a sine qua non as the Hon. Member (Sir F.
Burdett) termed it, but a sine die question. He (Sir H.
Hardinge) always had and always would vote in favour of
Emancipation ; but lie could not forget thafthe Hon. Mem-
bers who now wished to postpone the question of Emancipa-
tion, had a short time ago asserted that the frequent dis-
cussion of that question was the only way to promote it—
(Hear, hear.)—An Hon. Gentleman, (Mr. Brougham)
talked of the persecution and oppression of the Catholics,
and yet that Hon. and Learned Gentleman, now consented
to abandon those claims, and to support the present Ad-
ministration upon principles which God only knew. He
was justified in this observation, because the Honourable
Gentleman. and his party, only agreed with the pre-
sent Frilly! Minister in one question, differing with him
in all t, liers.—(Hear, bear, hear.)—He could not
forget that the Hon. and Learned Gent. to whom he be-
fore alluded had charged the Right Hon. Gent. at the head
of affairs, with truckling for office, and surely other Hon.
Members might now retort, for the Hon. and Learned
Gent. had taken his place at that side of the House with-
out any satisfactory reasons for such a change. In his
(Sir H. Harding's opinion, in consistency, honesty, and
good faith, every Member who postponed a question was
bound to state the reasons which occurred between March
and May, to induce him to take such a course.—(Cheers.)
Mr. MAURICE FITZGERALD had no hesitation in
stating that he had withdrawn his illation, because he feared
that by persevering in bringing it on, he should inflict an
injury on the Catholic cause, and his opinion on this point
was borne out by the unanimous opinion of the Catholics
themselves. He was not accountable to any person for
choosing his own side of the House, but he had no hesita-
tion in declaring that he stood at the side he now did to
advocate and support the same opinions he held when
at the opposite side of the House, and also to sup-
port an Administration which, however embarrassed
by faction, he was convinced intended well to the
Empire, and particularly to that Country, the inte-
rests of which he (Mr. Fitzgerald) had most at heart.
For those reasons he stood where he now did, and he had
an additional reason, to the desire to oppose that cabal to
which the Noble Lord and the Gallant Gentleman had
leagued themselves.

Lord ALTHORP said he certainly differed with Minis-
ters on some questions, but that was no reason why he
should give his support to those with whom he differed on
every question.—(Hear, hear.)—Besides, if he and those
who agreed with him took tho course which Honourable
Gentlemen opposite recommended, it would tend to raise a
Tory Administration in its most hideous form.