The Sun.
London, England, 1820-02-23 00:00:00

THE QUEEN

On reading the Resolution. " that a sum not
.exceeding 200,0001 be granted to his Mdjesty,
lot the discharge of pensions, annuities, and other
riyments, which would have been chargeahe 011
the Cons()lidatvd Fund and Civil List, if the de-
niise 6I- his late Majesty had not taken place,"

Mr.TIEENEY rose and said, he wanted to know
1-to:v ii was possible, and from what fund, pro-
.ision could be made for the Queen under this
p nrular vote.
The CHANCELLOR or the EXCHEQUER —lf the
demise of his late Majesty had nut taken place, an
anni.ity, tinder the act of Parliament, would
hove been payable. as to the Princess of \Vales
and the Iterilution now before the Rouse will un-
doubtedly empower the Treasury still to continue
that payment to the individual.

Mr. TIERNEY-1n the first place, I totally deny
the power to grant this annuity ; because the
grant depended on the life of the King, It stood
on a particular footing ; it had reference to the
continuance of the King's li•e, and was not at-
tached to the particulat person whose rank would
be affected by that event.. Besides, who is to re-
we this annuity ; There is now no such person
as the Pliticess of Wales. If they intended to
grant to her Majesty that which had previously
been conferred on the Princess of IVales, trords
to that ctfect ought to be introduced ; sod if the
Right Hon. Gentieman advanced one peony, un-
der the authority of that lt,solntion, for the ser-
vice adverted to, he woobl he guilty of a great
offence against the !loose of Commons.
The CH ANCELLnIt of the ExcumauEtt.--Thi,
payment, or. any other that has been heretofore
officially made, may be continued tinder the au-
thority of Parliament. An al!eration of station
cannot divest the individual of a local and per-
sonal interest in the grant ; and therefore the
annuity will he payable to the individual, under
the authority of the House, although her political
situation may be changed.
Mr. TIIIHNEY.—The grant was no conferred On
the individual, but was vo:ed to maintain her rank
-as Princess of \Voles. She has ceased to be Prin-
cess of \Vales ; :here is no such person. How,
theu, I ask, con this Resolution grant an annuity
to an individual not originally-in the contempla-
tion of Parliament ? I know the Right Hon..
Gentleman must not mention the word Queen.—
(A am trite aware of th,;t, I should
he vety glad to hear the flight Hon. Gentleman
use the word, and I should be still better pleased
if I could get him to record it on, the Journals.—
( hear! and laughter.)—lf he pr oceed short of
That, I contend that the Right Hon. Gentleman
will take on himself a degree of responsibility
AC hick no other Minister but himself would have
done ; because, he reheated, this annuity was so
payable, not on account of the individual, but to
keep np the rank, dignity, and station of the
Princess of Wales. There is now no Princess of
\Vales. The annuity did not, therefore, stand
on the same footing, and the proceeding of the
Right Hon. Gentleman did not rest on any re-
cognised principle.

The CHANcEt..I.9a of the ExcnenuEß—That
which was formerly granted to the Princess of
Wales will now be payable to the Queen, and to
no other person.—(Hear, hear !)

Air. Tll-tilt NEY.--111Cre is 110 such person now as
the Vrineess:of Wales. There is no individual in
that situalion ; and Ihey could not transfer to the
Queen what had been granted to her, without
,p,cifirally stating the fact. The Right Hon.
Uelitletnan scents to think, that because annuities

granted to particular persons, whote situations
had not been changed, may,still be continued un-
der this itesoktio•n, that therefore Parliament
may go on paying an annuity, granted to an in-
dividual when in one nitric, to the same ;individual
when her situation was entirely changed.
The CHANCELLOR of the ExcnrQuan—Her po-
litical character is changed, but that does not
prevent her from receiviog what she enjoyed in
one political capacity, after she hat entered into
another.

Mr. flume—What reason is there, I wish to
know, for not stating specifically, that the- sn7
nuity formerly granted to the Princess Of \Vales
shall in future be paid to her Majesty the Queen
—(Hear, hear !)—By such a statement the ob-
jection of the Right Hon. Gentleman will at once
be obvited. • •

Mr. LusnitiGTON.—lt would be impossilde to
insert those words, without introducing the name
of every other person connected with the grant.
The vote ;testes, that 200,0001. shall be granted
to Alaipsty for the dischArge of .pensions, an-
nuities, and ocher payments, that vvould he charge-
able On the Civil List and Consolidated Fund, hut
for the demise of his late Majesty. if therefore
one Elaine were introduced, all the rest intT also
be imbeited. This stun was granted to his Ma-
jesty in the same way as all the whets were; and
it is competent for him to order, Lhat payment of
that annuity should be made to the Queen which
was formerly granted to her by Act of l'arliament,
Mr. Ti NEY .—There is nu person capable of
receiving the annuity, under the terms of the grant
Ns it now stands.- It it be intemied for the Queen,
let it he specifically mentioned.

Sir RoßP.tttr WiLSON.-1 wish to know whether
the n►oney will be issued dhecdy to the Quee►►, or
whether it will be subject to the control of Go-

Vcrittnent.
'I he CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER —"rite
grant, when made, will he issued tooter a regular
warrant, it) the same manner as any-other nay-
'meat coming under this Resolution. There would
be no other legal obligation.
The Resolution was then agreed to, the House
resumad, and the report was received.
EXCHEQUER BILLS.
The CHANCELLOR .4 the EXCHEQUER moved
' for an account of all Exchequer Bills charged on
the Aids and Supplies of the year 1819, now out-
standing and improvided for.
The motion was agreed to, and Mr. LUSHINO.
Tot,: inotrediately brought op the account, which
was referred to the Committee of Supply.
MUTINY ACT.
On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the Ex-
cneaues, the Alutiny Act cniitintliug Bill went
through a Committee. The Report was received,
and the Bill was soon afterwards read a third time
and pasced, some unimportant clauses having been
ridded to it as riders.
On the motion of Mr. ABERCROMBY,the Local
Jurisdiction Bill was read a third tittle and passed.
COLONIES.
Mr. Hume complained that an order which he
had obtained for a series of Colonial Accounts,.
nine months ago, had not beet' complied
He moved for all Address to his Majesty, praying
for a series of documents connected with the'Aii-
of the Accounts of the Mauritius, Ceylon,
Malta, Cape of Good Hope, and other places.—
The motion was agreed to.
EXPIRING LAWS' BILL.
On the motion of the CHANChLLOR of the Ex-
core/OFR, the House resolved itself into a Com-
-mittee on the Expiring Laws Bill.
Lord ALTHOUPF. meant to move that an instrnc-
tiro) sho,ld he given to the Committee, to provide
that the proviiions of the present Bill should not
extend to the Insolvent Deb ors Bill. He then
repeated the arguments which he had formerly used
against the Act nom lit force, and contenthal deo
it ought not to continue in force one day longer
than the time at which it had been intended that•
it should expire. After strongly opposing its re-
newal, he concluded by movine, that an instruc-
tion
Should be given to the Committee, That Ott y
bad power to providt, that the eifaciments of the
Bill shoeld not extend to the ptesent Insolvent
DAtois Act.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER concur.
ring with the Noble Lord in his' general view of
this subject, and thinking the existing law defec-
tive in itself, and still more defective in ifs execu-
tion, wished this (as he wished every other sub-
ject) to be left so, that it might come before the
new Par&stient as nearly as possible in the same
state that it stood in at present, or that it 'would
have stood in if no demise of the Crown had taken
place; but considering that the existing law had
been in fotee for some years, and that the public
were now accustomed to its operation, he thought
it would be injurious to stiffer it to expire before
a new measure could be brought forward in its
place. Defective as the law now was, he was not
sure that it was not preferable to what it was be-
fore this Act passed. He objected to the motion
of the Noble Lard, but hoped that he would take
up the subject in the ensuing Session, and frame
a measure more applicable to the situation of the
country than that which was now in force.
Sir H. WILSON, though sorry to differ from the
Noble Lord, agreed with- the Chancellor of the
Exchequer, that it would be desirable to continue
the present Act in force till a new one could be
trained that should do justice to all patties.,
'five question was then put, and the motion of
the Noble Lord was negatived.