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Lord HOLLAND trusted, that he did not feel
any hostility towards the officers and men employed
on the expedition to Copenhagen ; but however pain-
ful it might be to his private feelings, his sense of
public duty called imperiously uponhim to oppose the
motion made by the Noble Secretary. He was not
satisfied that the service was of the magnitude stated
by the Noble Secretary ; and he would protest against
giving the thanks of Parliament, upon principles which
were not recognized by the custom of Parliamenz.—
When Lord Hood some years since took Toulon,
which was no inconsiderable service, the Parliament
did not return thanks; and he contended, that the
services performed at Copenhagen did not call for
public thanks. The greatest Military Government
that ever existed, he alluded to the Government Pt'
Ancient Rome, had been frugal of public thanks.—
Before their citizens could receive public . honours,
they were bound to perform great and glorious ac-
tions ; and it became the British Parliament, upon
the same principles of good government, to be care-
ful on whom they bestowed the thanks of the country.
Lord MOIRA said, troops were not expected to
exercise their judgment on the policy or impolicy of
the service they had to perform. The question was,
did the army and navy do their duty ? If it was pro-
ved that they did,perform their duty, it was impos-
sible for the Noble Lords to withhold their thanks.
It was not because an attack had been made on a
country comparatively detenceless. It was the expres-
sion of the public approbation for brilliant services,
and he was of opinion that public services well per.
formed merited public thanks. The country had
ggi►en thanksto those who fought the battles of Tray
falgar, Alexandria, and Maida, with the greatestjui:

Lord HAWKESBURY then moved thanks to
Lieutenint-Generals Sir Harry Burford, Bart. the
Earl of Rosslyn, the Honourable Sir G. J. Ludlow,
K.B. Sir David Baird, the Major-Generals, Bri-
gadiers, and other Officers employed, and an appro-
val and acknowledgment of the services of the Non-
commissioned Officers and Soldiers—which motions
were agreed to, and ordered to be communicated by
the Lord Chancellor to Lord Viscount Cathcart.
His Lordship then moved the Thanks of the House
to Admiral the Right Honourable Lord Gambier, for
the judicious distribution of the fleet, thereby contri-
buting to the success of the expedition after all nego-
cation had failed, and for the promptitude displayed
io fitting out the Danish ships and shipping the stores.
The Duke of NORFOLK objected that the words
relative to negociation tended to prejudge the ques-
tion of which notice had been given, and the object
of which was to ascertain the nature of the previous
negociation.
Lord HAWKESBURY said that the negociation
alluded to in the motion was merely that entered into
by the Commanders itl their military capacity, and
h.td no reference to political negociation.
After a short conversation, the motion was about
to be put, when
The Duke of NORFOLK also objected that it
was not usual to thank Admirals equipping vessel! •
and shipping stores, and that there was no account
before the House respecting the amount of the stores.
Lord MULGRAVE contended, that to bring asap
the Danish fleet was an essential part of the object,
and that therefore the Admiral was entitled to thanks
for the promptitude with which that had been effected.
TheEarIofLAUDERDALE observed, that if the
motion passed in its present shape, it would be thou
out cf doors that there was great difficulty in making
out a case to entitle Lord Gambier to the thanks of
•
Parliamerm
Lord HAWKESBURY maintained that Lord
Gambier was entitled to thanks, for so ably carrying
that part of the service into execution. [Turn crow.

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After a short further conversation the Motion was
agreed to, and ordered to be communicated to Lord
Gambier, when in his place in the House.
Loid HAWKESBURY next moved Thanks to
the Vice Admiral Sir H. E. Stanhope, Bart. Rear-
Admirals Essington, Sir Samuel Hood, K. B. Keats;
• Capt. Sir Home Popham, K. M. Captain of the Fleet,
and the other Officers.
- The Duke of NORFOLK aFked, whether it was
usual to include the Captain of a fleet by name in a
Vote of Thanks ?
Lord MITI.GRAVE said it had been on the at-
tack upon Copenhagen in 1801, when the Captain of
the Fleet was named in the Thanks.
Earl GREY thought the Captain of the Fleet upon
that occasion was a Rear-Admiral.
Lord HOLLAND observed that Sir Thomas
Hardy was not thanked in the victory of Trafalgar.
Lord MULGRAVE said, Sir Thomas Hardy was
'hot Captain of the fleet.
The Earl of LAUDERDALE observed: that it
would be a most singular circitnistancd if Sir Home
Popham was. to he made the first instance of the Cap-
, taM of a fleet being thanked by name.
Lord HAWKESBURY said, he understood there
were several instances of the Captain of a fleet being
. thanked by name, and that in Lord Howe's victory
Sir Roger Curtis, then Captain of the fleet, was in-
chided by name.
The motion was agreed to—as was also a motion
for approving and acknowledging the services of the
Seamen and Marines, both which were ordered to be
communicated by the Lord Chancellor to Lord
Gambier.

NEUTRAL COMMERCE.

Lord HOLLAND give notice a his intention to move on
Ninnday for any information communicated to his Majesty's j..;to-
vtrnment by the Ministers of Neutral Powers, respecting the
rrrinner in which the French Decree of the 21st rovember, 1806,
was intended to be executed.

RUSST A.
Earl GREY wished to know whether there was any answer
given by Lord G. L. Gower to the note of Baron Budberg (in the
Papers relating to Russia), stating several complaints on the part
of the Russian Government against this country.
Lord HAWKESBURV was not prepared to give an answer.
Earl GREY gave notice of his intention to move fof the pro-
duction of any such document.
Adjourned till to-morrow (this day).

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
rttot.E 'NON.
Mr. M. A. TAYLOR pve notice of his intention to move to-
morrow for the ristponment of the consideration of the Poole
Election Petition for ten days.
Mr. JEFFERY objected to this, on the ground that no reasons
were stated.
Mr. TAYLOR observed, that the day had been fixed on an
understanding, that if any of the parties objected, the considera-
tion should be postponed.
Mr. JEFFERY stated, that if that was the case, it was with-
-1 ' out his knowledge.
After an observation from the SPEAKER, that generally
speaking, the convenience of the House wai to be consulted, ex-
cept some special circumstances were stated by one or both of the
parties, the notice was allowed to stand.
BRAZIL TRADE.
Mr. ROSE, according to notice moved, that a Committee
should be appointed to examine the Navigation Act, so far as re-
lated to the permission of the importation of Brazil goods in Bra-
sil vessels.
Mr. LUSHINGTON wished to know to what extent the per-
mission was intended to be granted, and to what articles it was
to refer. This was material with a view to the present state of
• the commerce of our West India Colonies.
Mr. ROSE said that this circumstance had not escaped his at-
tention. But the whole would be best discussed in the Committee.
The Committee was then appointed for Tuesday.
MARGATE PIER.
Sir E. KNATCHBI7I.I. presented a Petition from the Com-
missioners of the Margate Pier, praying aid to reyair the tate da-
mages.—Ordered to be referred to a Committee.
AMERICAN INTEIt('OCNSE.
Mr. ROSE, pursuant to notice, moved for a Com-
mittee on the Act of Navigation, as far as related to
American intercourse.
After some preliminary conversation between Mr.
Rose and Mr. Eden, respecting the particular Act
to he continued, which was stated by the former to
be that of 1797, the motion was agreed to, and the
question put, whether the Speaker should leave the
Chair?
• Mr. EDEN expressed his hinh satisfaction, that
there appeared in this a spirit of amity and concilia-
tion, with regard to the United States, and a dispo-
sition to continue our intercourse with them on friend-
ly terms, although he did not know upon what ground
the hope of doing this was founded: But he was sus,-
prized at the proposition to continue the Act of 1797.
That Act relating to a treaty of commerce with the
United States, concluded by Lord Grenville and Mr.
Jay, was totally inapplicable to the present circum-
stances. Had the Right Hon. Gentleman read that
Act ? If he had, he must have found, that the very
preamble rested on the supposition upon entire free-
dom of commerce between the two countries. While
the Americans, however, had passed a Non-importa-
tion Act, and laid an embargo on their vessels, ought
we to pass an act, assuming as its basis the entire
freedom of commerce ? The old Act would pot ex-
pire for five weeks from th!s, and every day and hour
might bring intelligence that might alter the state of
the case. Why not wait till we knew what impres-
sion the Orders of Council might have produced? It
was possible, perhaps, that when the Americans I
learned that the only trade they could have would be
i
with British Ports, they might repeal their Non-Ins- I
portation Act. But if they should be so unreasonable
as to resent this, and quarrel with regulations so ge-1
nerously intended for the protection of neutrals, there
would be no need to pass this or any other Act. But
he objected on another ground. It was well known
that several articles of the Treaty of 1794 had been
incorporated in the late Treaty, which the American
Government had unfortunately refused to ratify.—
Whether the negociation on that head was at an end•
or still going on, it would be improper to p::ss-an Act
of this kind, for this, among; other reasons, that se-
veral articles must be continued which it was proposed
in the Treaty to repeal. .
Mr. ROSE replied, that in the Act of 1797, it was
provided, that unless certain arrangements took place
with regard to the 12th Article, the A 4 should not
enntinue beyond a cerain 'period. No arrangements
took place, and the Act expired in 1801. But it was
• judged proper, that the Act should he still further
Continued, in hopes of an arrangement, and accord:
ingly it was continued till after the commencement of
this Session. His Hon. Friend had said, that it did i
not expire till five weeks from this time. This was
true, 'out then considering the timelhat the passing
of an act required, it was necessary immediately to
do something. He said, that all this.was in favour
of America, while America was unfavourable to us.

His answer was, that if America was hostile to
was becoming the dignity of Parliament-tia 'aft
moderation, and to grant advantages fora 'heat time
till matters came to a crisis. If we were to err, it
was better in this instance to err on the side of for-
bearance rather than precipitation ( hear ! hear
•He said, that the preamble was inconsistent with fir
present circumstances. It would be perfectly. compe-
tent to his Hon. Friencliti mini an alteration in the
Committee if he thought proper ; but it was better
to continue our friendly relations with America, than
to break off abruptly (hear ! hear !).—By the Act of
Navigation no goods could be imported from Ame-
rica, except in British ships. This surely. was not a
situation in which we should wish to place our inter-
course withthe.United States. It turned 'out on the
whole then, that what his Hon. Friend wished must
be, that the matter should be left with the King and
Council. But any -inconvenience :from applying to
Parliament would be ob-viived, by providing in the
Act, that there should ,be a...liberty to alter it this
Session, as occasion might require. Something of
this kind must of necessity be done, unless we were
ready to adopt an entire new system with regard to
the'United States. This, however; Parliament was '
not as yet compelled to do, and in the mean time the
proper method was to proceed with caution and mo-
deration.
Mr. EDEN disclaimed any intention whatever to
interrupt our friendly correspondence with America.
His objection went solely to the mode in which it was
proposed to carry it on. ,
The House then went into a Committee. Mr.
ROSE proposed, that the Chairman should move the
House, for leave to bring in a Bill to continue the
American Intercourse Act. Agreed to. The House
resumed, the Report was received and leave given.
Exesurrioai TO COPENHAGEN. •
Lord CASTLEREAGWrose in pursuance of the
notice he had given, to make his promised motion for
a Vote of Thanks to the Officers of the Army and
Navy. Ile said, that whatever difference of opinion
I might prevail as to the political points, on the object
of the expedition itself, he flattered himself that dif-
ference would not be suffered to prevail on the present
question of a Vote of Thanks to the Officers who had
so ably executed the orders which had been committed
to their charge. He hoped that in this question the'.
House would, as it had always done on similar occa-
sions, separate the idea of the order itself from the
merits of those who had been appointed to execute it.
The House had always determined not to mix the
principle of the order with the execution of it ; and he
was sure they would do so on the present occasion,
because those Gentlemen who really opposed the po-
litical motives of the expedition were equally interested
in the event of the military who had been employed
in it having properly done their duty, and added to
that high character which the British forces by land
and sea had rendered so deservedly and eminently
conspicuous. He apprehended, therefore; that the only j
question would now be, whether the expedition was a
measure of that high importance ; and whether the',
difficulties attending it were of so great and of such
extent as to deserve the highest public reward which
can be bestowed on any subject in this country, viz.
the Thanks of that and the other House? He wished
particularly to call the attention of the House to that
part of the subject which related to the difficulties of
the enterprise. These being well known to his Ma-
jesty's Ministers, they had thought it their duty to
provide the most ample and abundant means in order
to ensure success, and to send such a force as should
render resistance altogether impossible. They were
also desirous to do this, in order to soften and alle-
viate the feelings of the Danes, in being compelled to
submit to a superior force, and to justify them in the
' eyes of the world for having yielded to a Power, which
it would have been madness in the extreme to resist.
Our military force assembled at Copenhagen was
certainly a very powerful one ; yet it was essentially
his duty, and due to our army and navy, to call the
attention of the House to the great difficulties attend-
ing the expedition. An idea had gone abroad that
the island of Zealand was not in a condition to' resist ;
but this was by no means the case. The actual force
of the Danes there considerably exceeded the amount
of the British troops. He did not mean thereby to
speak only of their regular force, but to take in also
their armed citizens and regular militia : and all those
collectively constituted a force amounting to not less
than 35,0(X) men, within and without the walls of
Copenhagen. The garrison within the walls, he said,
amounted to 15,000 men ; that of Cronenburgh to
about 4000 ; and besides these, they had another force
which had been drawn from different parts of the island,
and which, in spite of the vigilance of our blockading-
ships, had been thrown into the island from their army
,in Holstein, which altogether had been stated to amount
to 16,000 men, making in the whole the number he
had mentioned of 35,000. Blit it was not the amount
of the .forces only which constituted the difficulties
our bras:: troops had to contend with. They had to
attack a town, which in point of extent was equal to
most of the largest fortresses in Europe • a town so
fortified by. art and nature on the side of die sea, as to.
render any attack that way perfectly nugatory, for
against such it ivai'iati6 he invulnerable, mut on 'the
land side it was only to be attacked by -regular ap-
proaches, and by bombardment. He begged Gentle-
me:: to consider what were the nature and extent of
the place, and the lengtl• of time that must be neces-,
salt to reduce it ; and they must be satisfied of the
initoemie exertions of our troops. Here he must men-1
tion-d-Cittannstance which redounded so greatly to
their'hirrnanity, that after all their difficulties, and
labours, and toils, they made again the offer of the
same faidenrable conditions which had been previously
made refused, thereby shewing that they were
truly and siocerely desirous to save the effusion of
human blood. Those-offers being again rejected, the
bombardment of cinirse took place, and no man re-
gretted or lamented more than he did the melancholy
effects it 11.1 i produc ati. Under these circumstances,
he thought the Hou 'oust be of opinion with him,
that the C (fivers e-aph yed on this expedition 'had
tarried it into execution in the most honourable and
masterly manlier that an attack of such k natal* was
prFsibly capable of. It I-ad been ai4ieved most effec-
tually, most successfi Ile. and most humanely; and
no effort had been left untried to spare the effusion of
human blood, and to *render the conquest as little
Painful and injurious to the feelingi of the Danes as
possible. In moving a resolution of this kin& he
Should think it would be a direliction obis duty, did
he not call the attention of the House to the merit of

.r sue,
those individuals who, from the nature
.est And could the House vote thanks, • r '
Had instill- qu . •
ticaiSle knew had been particularly active an
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of his situa-- tish officer was entitle'd to take credit for
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as air e
't out sereiee, for the reduction of a Pester so situ.
mental in the success of it in the fitting i •
Lordehipthe '
then passed a very high encomium on el It was a service in which there was • '
vett • and if we did, our exultiee
to C 1 was ei no cello
, seracefai
treat exertions of the Victualling.
and Transport
n- to us. It would lay us open to siepicions 1
Boards, both of which bad performed the most risen- i . o eur ne
matiodliery
I clonal character, in countries wh 'l%! the • e•
by the speed .and celerity , inter
,fiat. services to the countrya reach, that we considered such ,eryices as neri
with which every thing, had been got ready for the, m• _
He thought the advice ;even to the Is!"
in a much sherterspac ors.r e Wag
equipment of the expedition, • • iby Ministers, to confer the Peerage on Admiral Cam.
of time than had ever before been known on any simi- .
had also , bier, was highly blameable. He had no hi:ewe:in ;3
tar occasion, and acknowledged Ministers
d artillery de -I saying, he servi • • •
that the nature of t . Le did not at all
been greatly indebted to the engineer a.n . h
they
ant such a distinction. The literal ni •
al and activity with wine ey i warn caning, of
partments for the ze - was, the harbour of merchants ; and thin.
't would
had both exerted themselves, without whichi
of ; fore, it was an inglorious conquest. Admiral Gam
have been impossible that a town so fortified, and . 1 .
all much less in bier, si se
•h ad bq "de •h d been very little at se • "
a ; with the ea.
such extent, could have been taken at , . - of ie d H , action, -
time. ion or out s he u a
so short a •He thought. it eqeally necessary to , ce.pt, never hoed
of before or since. If the capture ci the Cape
call the attention of the House to our Navy, which,
!Gad Hope was not deserving tit thank ,surd} e,ml.
though from the situation of the place on the sea side, :
lundt • of Copenhagenh d far I . "'e
ring
it could not be actively engaged against it, yet by the ! p . g
_ofthe
regular and strict blockade which
it effected, it pre- j the gratitude - !)_As to
Copertha.! the conduct of Ministers, in advii.ing the •ei,,,
vented fresh troops from being thrown into t b te
gen, or from being landed in many parts along se ex_ grant them honours, and the nieviel of
then: clun•
I thou hit • •of -• I• l the 4 '
oug t quite a piece eit 1 a rest et Lee,
tensive a shore, where they might have annoyed our le
• s essen-
, troops in different posts e and by those mean
conduct. He thought it exhibited a striking '
instance
of what might
becalled Ministerial corruptiers
daily served the operations, and contributed greatlylt
a waste and abuse of the public money, t
to the ease, eomfert, security, and • assistance of the was . .O grart
any pension or ether remuneration for such aseses,
army. After the town surrendered, never uer • e such
It was robbing the poor, and had besides, the tetef.
exertions before made as were then by them, in taking •
i the fleet, a vast fect of doing away that honourable ,pirit, which, he
possession of and conveying on boatel,
variety of stores which were found there, in so short a hoped, wouTd ever be the pride of this county. lc
space of time as would be thought incredible ; for was usual in cates of treason to add to the horrors oe
there were scarcely six weeks allowed to effect that, the punishment as much as possible. Ministers aces
l hisit differenti
which with only common exertions would, in genera l+ - Y • .
on this occasion. They -
. mageted
act at Copt:till:igen into e sill!ltditi .i.C•ier
require more than double that period. Having stated
those matters, which he felt it his duty to do at some It rteembled the pride of a man he heard of, wheel
length, he would not then take up more of the time of p
to tit a silk stocking on his woolen leg on Lee !
the House, but conchide by movingthefollowsng rise -IV . •
-• Oceor's Day—( A laugh.)--They were u2R
eq T
lotions. He then read the first to the following purport : ashamed. of the late affair, arid yet they wished to
else its deformity, by dressing it up with a silk start. )
That the Thanks of that House be gleen to Lord Cathcart, for g
the judicious and decisive measures hehad adopttst.tiaivarris re- . ing and a diamond buckle. He concluded by elem.
during the Tovrn and fortifications of Copenhagen. - I ing his decided disapprobation of the vote of dealt
Mr. WINDHAM rose to make a few, observe- . Mr. BRAND declined entering at all upon e
tions upon what had fallen from the Noble Lord.— merits of,the service, in which that part of the air
The Right Honourable Gentleman was ready to': and navy had been employed, to which it was x
subscribe to what the Noble Lord had said generally proposed to vote the thanks of the House, but het
with respect to the services of the army and nitey.— precated the House now coming to a resolnii
They had done all that men ought or could in their which would preclude it from afterwards comings.
situation ; but then it did not follow that because decision upon the question and policy of the end
they had performed their duty, Parliament were to tion. One of the grounds on which the expedite!
give them thanks. The Noble Lord in the course of was justified, was the alledged weakness of Den
his speech had endeavoured to impress the House with to defend herself had she been attacked by Fiera
the necessity (idconsidering the question) of keeping and he conceived, that it would be altogether ;net
the merits of the service performed, distinct from the sistentto pass a vote of theaks for a service veld
merits which he unquestionably seemed to think were derives its principal importance from the degree
due to him and his coadjutors for setting,. it a going. resistance which those employed in ithad to encountei
There was the dhficnity, and the only dificulty which : . The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUEI
could arise. It was impossible that in calling upon ' said, that the motion now before the House won.
the House to vote its thanks, the propriety of voting by no means have the effect pretended by the He
them could be kept distinct from the propriety of the • Gentleman, and that it neither entered into the re
service. (Cries 4 hear ! hear ! ) We were centime. temptation of his Noble Friend, who proposedoe
ally heating of brilliant services performed (without " of the Right Hon. Gentleman who opposed the At
meaning to depreciate this), -such as cutters opposed solution, ilia• it in any way pledged the House to a
against frigates, &c. and in one instance lately, the opinion upon the nies it or demerit ofthose who pie
of a packet veil gallantly beating off a privateer, but ned the expedition. He wished that that Right Hie
were the House to be called upon to thank persons Gentleman had so discussed the question immediai
for these sort of services ? and yet they were highly ho- before the House, as not at least to afford sere
nourable to the nation. No : the reward they received : grounds of suspicion, that his mind was wound.
was in another place. Well them, would the impor-'• prejudiced upon the question nut now before then-.
tance of this capture warrant to call upon Parliament He would not, however, be tempted to any
for its thanks ? Thanks were a sort of national ema- I that had fallen from the Right Honourable Gene
nation arising from public exultation at sonic impor- , man, to transgress the limits of the present quefse
tant national achievement. (Loud cries of hear! hear!)! not even to reply to the charge, that Ministenled
Was this so ? Exultation at the event was always I planned the expedition from no other than the Fill
implied by some demonstrations which broke out.— I motive of keeping their places, the solidity Wean
Could it in the present instance be so implied ? Had lof which he should leave with the cool judgneetd
there been any national feelings exhibited of joy and the House, and the cool judgment of the Right Ha
trinmph, when the information of the seizure of the Gentleman himself. What he meant now wart
Danish fleet was first announced ? Ifehe people had was, that the reasoning. of the Hon. Gendeneei
found cause for exultation, they would have manifcs- corroborated by the decision of the House, leak
ted it by manifold acts of that kind. (Cries of Hear ! extremely prejudicial to the public service. He sod
hear ! ) This country had witnessed triumphs indeed to be of opinion that no service was entitled ton
—the battle of Maida was a glorious triumph ! a fair Thanks of Parliament, except it was the caul; di
trial of skill had been given them, and the flower and general and triumphant feeling, completely wird
chosen part of the enemy's army, heretofore called i with any regret, and that there could be no mai
" Invincible," when met man to man, were vanquish- under any circumstances, either in a retreat red&
ed. This was a triumph indeed which was worthy of to entitle it to such an honour. He begged levee
fifty navies of Denmark. ( Loud cries of hear! hear !) opposition to this doctrAdmirine, to remin
Cord
dies
Hoe.
On the subject of services, there were certain ways of able Gentleman, that al laid
attaining rewards for meritorious cervices : one was the Thanks of the House for the judgment anal**
(and it reminded him of the old gambling system at very which he displayed in presence of a superior
cards—toss up, " King loses, Knave wins.") (A laugh) my's force, when no engagement, and conseeat
where the good folks dealt out approbation and re- no victory, took place. 'I he Thanks of the House ,
wards at Lloyd's Colfee House (A laugh !). On the also been voted to the Governors of Madras a"
present occason, he believed that the Noble Lord's feel- Bombay, for their activity in forwarding diets
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rngs were more true than his judgment. Ministers had of the Governor-General of Bengal. When 14',.;
shewn gladness, but from his heart he wished it had 1 Hood took possession of Corsica, unaccompanied's'
been a more sober, chastened, and subdued gladness ; i any of the circumstances which the Hon. Gentle"'
that they had not exhibited that gladness in firing the • had contended were necessary to the esta
Park guns. ( Loud cries of hear ! hear ! ) If the case, lof finch a claim, he had received the same glia•
when it came on for discussion, turned out to be one r approbation. The very circumstance of the
which neither policy nor practice could justify ; why in question being painful to the feelings of those
then, shat would the captors deserve, able as they ployed in k, he considered as an additional
are ? Certainly not the thanks of Parliament. In- why it should not pass unrewarded, and if any .
deed the Noble Lord was aware of the badness of his more than another could add to the merit of the
cause, for after dilating at some length on it, he, in I cers employed in the expedition against Cop ,
order to set it in a fairer point of view, brings in those I it was their having. obtain a cheap and Woo
not at all concerned in the question. Whoever before • victory, in comparison of ed
what it would haw ,
heard of complimenting the Victualling and Trans. had they battered and stormed the town, in e
port Boards for doing their duty ? perhaps it might , case, perhaps, the Hon. Gentleman would hall!
have been intended to include them in the Vote of nnobjections to their '
receiving the thanks of 111'
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thanks. (A laugh.) The description of service as ment. It was idle to make a distinction bet
ter
applicable to them, u-as that of labour ;to be sure he success of the army and navy, in an expedloi.
did not know whether the Commissioners of the dock- which they were conjointly employed . The
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yards, and the Masters attendant, had been created the expedition to Egypt, the navy did nothing e
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Baronets for their eminent services. (A laugh.) Nor than cover the landing of the troops, they're:,
had he heard what appendage the Noble Lords on that account, excepted from the vote tidos'
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(Cathcart and Gambier) had affixed•to their titles.— ; He again repeated, that the very circumstance...l,
We all knew that the allaatg Nelson was designated ' ficers having a painful and heart-breakill;
" Nelson of the Nile," hear! Duncan of• (Loud crier cf hear, from the OpposiMor
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Camperdown, &c." But here he believed there was peated it, a heart-breaking task to performon
no honourable appendage. (A loud /tree) Had should like• to know what service in which motet
there been any granting of medals as in other in- bloodshed did not merit that appellation, sw
got
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stances ? Had they been put with the other em- strongest of all reasons • why the thanks
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blems of Victory into the military bed of honour ? ought not to be withheld. As to the set"
In fact, the mere service (if service it was) on the he would always maintain,• that it had 17.
part of the navy, was taking possession of the stores. essentially to the security of the countel, an .1,
—There was entailer topic which would thew the diminution of that force, which would other%
absurdity of Ministers more than any thing else.— t fore this time, id all probability, have beta
They pretend to say, that .the force they sent was f power of our enemy. ci
of a nature to render all resistance unavailable.-1 Mr. TIERNEY confessed it to be
his. iaed,
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Indeed, when we considered the description of troops on, that this was an improper occasion t°
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we had to contend with, this was too true :—thsy a vote of thanks. Were our officers so ed
were men with red coats and white coats, and some general, that they were to thanked for the iIL.
with no coats at all—(A laugh)—•-sinne bad muskets, Ibe
pity on this particular occasion ? It was I•'ias
but many more had pitch-forks. In short, no Bri- that Ministers undertook this exPeditiGn '''''