Star.
London, England, 1830-02-13 00:00:00

no statesman, not French, had ever held such language as autho-
rised by the system of European policy. The noble duke had said
much upon the importance of observing facts and dates, but there
were many circumstances connected with those transactions which
did not require the precision of dates to understand them. It might
be true that the proposal to blockade the Dardanelles took place
before the noble lord came into office, and it might be true that
no positive exhortation to war had ever been given to the Turks;
but could it be denied that all the language of the ministers, from the
king's speech downwards, was calculated to buoy up the hopes of the
Turks, and impress upon their minds that England would stand asa
shield them and Russia ? The noble duke had described his
resolution as ridiculous. He had said it was almost as ridiculous
as the resolution proposed by lord Nottingham, and supported by
the Whigs, and all the great men of the time. He was willing to
bear the ridicule, and allow the noble duke to run his rigs on him, if
classed with such company. What was the resolution alluded to?
After the treaty of Utrecht had been signed. a motion was made in
that house, calling on his Majesty to enter into a negotiation with
certain foreign powers, and particularly the Duke of Lorraine,
with a view to oblige them to send the Pretender out of their
dominions. (Hear.) It was argued against this, that his Majesty
could not enforce such a resolution, and therefore ought not
to be placed in a situation so absurd. The objection, how-
ever, was over-ruled, and the resolution passed ; so that in the opi-
nion of the Parliament of that day, it was not so ridiculous as the
noble duke had described it. The noble duke had spoken of the
protocol. lie (Lord Holland) would ask, did he mean to adhere
to the protocol or not ? The protocol gave to the Greeks the whole
line from the Gulf of Volo to the Gulf of Arta. It was now sup-
posed, however, that it would extend from the Gulf of Volo to the
river Achelous—a longer line of frontier, and as good a military po-
iition as the other; but, unfortunately for the poor Greeks, omitting
a line rich tract of country that would have been secured to them by
the former arrangement. As for Candia, however, he thought that
though neither the noble duke nor he were very young, both might
live to see that island pass from the hands of the Turks ; nor did he
think it would have been difficult to obtain it by negotiation, without
provoking the extremity of war. It was some satisfaction to hint to
',sleet that his motion was to be got rid of by the previous question,l
which, if be understood it, was an admission that his motion might
to! just and true, but that it was not expedient in point of time. He
hoped that they would conclude the great work they had begun, by
erecting Greece into a powerful and independent State, and that the
&hate of that night would have the effect of adding to the import-
oace and the character which he trusted that England would always
rossess in the Mediterranean.—(llear, hear.)
The Earl of ABERDEEN, in explanation, said, that he should
not have presumed to differ front the noble lord respecting the opi-
nion of dir. Fox if he had not what he considered the most India-
potable evidence in his favour. It was not upon a reported speech
of Mr. Fox that he relied in this instance, but upon a state paper,
written by his own hand to dl. Talleyrand, during the negotiations
td 1806. The language held by Mr. Fox in that paper was that,'
as to what related in the note of the French Minister to the inte-
grity and independence of the Ottoman empire, no difficulty could
arise, those objects being equally dear to the two contracting par-
ties. A guarantee was also mentioned by 51. Talleyrand, which it
was to be inferred, from the above passage, that Mr. Fox was wil.
Eng to agree to.
Lord HOLLAND said he was not aware of the circumstances
under which the despatch was written ; but he would confess he
was greatly surprised at the quotation.
The previous question was then put, a carried without a divi-
sion ; and the house adjourned at nine o'clock.