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London, England, 1842-05-03 00:00:00

SOAP bUTIES.

The Soap Duties Bill went through Committee, and
was ordered to be read a third time on Friday.
The Earl of BANDON presented several petitions
from parishes in Bandon, and other parts of Ireland,
against the present system of national education.
The Earl of WINCHILSEA presented petitions
Porn Melford, and other places, against any further grant
ti) the College of Maynooth.
The Timber Ships' Bill went through Committee, was
reported, and ordered to be read a third time on Friday.
I The Marquis of DOWNSlllRE.presented a petition
fiom the Minister and Chur&Wardens of a parish in the
oliocese of Kildare, and two from the Protestant inhabit •
a is of Castle Tulloch, and anoOier place in the County
Caren, in favour of Church Extension.
Lord FINGAL presented a petition from the medical
en of Carlow, against the medical jurisdiction of the
Boor Law Bill ; also a petition from the inhabitants
ot Southwark, against the tolls on the Metropolitan
Aridges.
I NATIONAL EDUCATION.
!Lord LORTON presented a petition from Castle
q?nnor, in the County of Sligo, against the present sys-
tqn of National Education.
; BANKRUPTCY, LUNACY, AND LOCAL
I COURTS.
)Lord CAMPBELL asked the Noble and Learned
Bird on the Woolsack what was the present state of the
81l for amending the law relative to bankrupts. The
ll had been introduced, but had remained stationary ;
h also asked the state of the Lunacy Bill, and the Bill
relating to Local Courts.
;The LORD CHANCELLOR said, with respect to
thie first question which the Noble and Learned Lord
hid referred, the Lunacy Bill, it had been read a first
arid second time, and stood for the Committee ; it was
his intention to-morrow, to give notice for the Commit-
tee on Thursday. As to the Bankruptcy Bill,
it had been read a first time, and he would propose the
second reading some day in the ensuing week. With
respect to the third Bill, the Local Courts Bill, he had
found such conflictinginterests, and such difficulty in recon-
ciling them, that he had not been able to lay it en the table;
but he trusted, after the explanation he had given, to
meet such a concurrence of opinion, that he should be
able to introduce it soon after the recess.

Lord ABINGER trusted the Bill would never be laid
on the table of the House ; but if it was, he should give
it his determined opposition.
The LORD CHANCELOR said his Noble and Learned
Friend had put so many questions to him, that he did
not recollect the whole of them, at the time he had
given an aswer to the Noble Lord. He believed he had
given no answer to one of the questions with respect to
the Ecclesiastical Courts Bill, and he therefore begged
leave to inform him that the Bill had been prepared
and was ready to be introduced.
Lord BROUGHAM was exceedingly glad to find that
the intention of his Noble Friend was such as he had
stated ; but with respect to the policy of the Bankruptcy
Bill taing precedence, of the Local Courts Bill, he (Lord
Brougham) entertained great doubt. If his Noble
Friend would look more narrowly into the subject, he
would find that such a step would create great incon-
venience, he should therefore wish to see it postponed.
The LORD CHANCELLOR begged leave to state
that the Bill was already laid on the table of the House,
and no inconvenience could result from the second
reading of the Bill, because, at any future stage, the
progress of the Bill might be stopped if necessary,
until the other Bill had been read a second time.
He begged leave to state, that it occcurred to him
that it was not necessary to postpone the Bill,
and to proceed with the ether Bill, for this reason,
it was nothing more than extending the principle of the
Bill introduced by his Noble and Learned Friend with
respect to the Country Bankruptcy in London, which had
been found to operate so beneficially, that several mer-
chants of London had presented a petition to extend the
operation of the Bill to the whole country. In conse-
quence of this it was now proposed to extend the town
commission to the country. The Noble and Learned
Lord (Brougham) would see much to approve in
the Bill, inasmuch as it was founded on his own Bill.

Lord BROUGHAM entirely concurred not only in
the principle but the details of the Bill.
COPYRIGHT BILL.

The LORD CHANCELLOR said he should move
the second reading of the Copyright Bill on Monday
next (as we understood.)
UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE.

Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from the
Provisional Council of the National Complete Suffrage
Union, dated the 15th of April, praying for Universal
Suffrage. Annual Parliaments, Vote by Ballot, and No
Property Qualification. The body from which the pre-
sent petition emanated was composed of between
ninety and one hundred delegates from different parts
of England, Wales, and Scotland. They met at
Birmingham, where they held several deliberate assem-
blies fur the space of several days, and they came to cer-
tain resolutions. They afterwards convened a public meet-
ing, which was attended by many thousands of their fellow
citizens ; that meeting consisted of persons of all descrip-
tions, among which the greatest unanimity prevailed. The
middle classes showed the greatest anxiety that their
fellow citizens should be brought on the pale of the
Constitution. As the petition spoke not only the senti-
ments of the individual that had signed it on behalf of
the Meeting, but also those of 3,300,000, and as its ob-
ject was Universal Suffrage, Annual Parliaments, Vote
by Ballot, and no property qualification, he trusted their
Lordships would not think he was asking too much
when he requested that the petition should be read at
length.
The petition was then read at length at the table.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY presented a peti-
t:on from the Magistrates of Durham, sitting at the
Petty Sessions at Stockton-upon-Tees, against the
Stockton and Hartlepool Railway Bill.
Lord CLIFFORD of Chudleigh, presented a petition
from the Roman Catholics frequenting different Cha-
pels, praying that they might be put upon the same
footing, and enjoy the same civil rights as other persons
of different religious persuasions.
MADRAS PRESIDENCY.

The NOBLE LORD gave notice that he should, on Friday
next, bring under the notice of the House the subject of
the Madras Presidency.
Lord DACRE presented a petition from a parish in
Hertford against the prevision in the tariff affecting the
importation of live steel:.
Lord WHARNCLIFFE laid on the table certain pa-
pers by the command of her Majesty.
Earl FITZWILLIAM presented a petition from Ayr
for the immediate abolition of the Corn and Provision-
laws.
The NOBLE EARL also presented a petition from the
congregation of some place in the parish of Sheffield,
against the bread-tax, and another against the alteration
of duty on the importation of foreign cattle and meat.
QUEEN'S :PRISON BILL.
The Earl of SHAFTESBURY brought up the Report
on this Bill, which was oreereil to be received.
In consequence of Thursday next being Ascension Day
their Lordships adjourned till Friday.

HOUSE 0F COMMONS.
The SPEAKER took tt te Chair shortly before Four
&Clock.

PENRYN AND F.I..LMOUTH ELECTION
Mr. C..WOOD brought up the report from the select
Committee appointeei to try the merits of a petition,
complaining of an -undue election for the Borough of
Penryn and Falmouth. The Committee reported that
Capt. James Hallway PI =ridge was duly elected.
STANIIOPE AND TYNE RAILWAY BILL.
On the motion of Mr. LIDDELL, the Lords' amend.
ments in the Stanhope ELIA Tyne Railway Bill were read
and agreed to.
ATTORNEYS' CERTIFICATES.

Mr. LAWSON presented a petitiou from certain at-
torney's of Yorkshire, pri ying for an abolition of the
duty on Attorneys' certifir :ates.
Mr. DUNCAN" presemed a petition to the same effect
from the Solicitors of Darimm.
GREENOCK HARBOUR BILL.

Mr. 'WALLACE bro,Light up the report on the
Greenock Harbour Bill. The amendments proposed by
the Committee were agreed to, and the Bill was ordered
to be engrossed-

Mr. PRAED present ed a petition from the owners
and occupiers of land in Buckinghamshire, against the
proposed alterations in the tariff.
Mr. LEADER presented petitions from several dis-
tricts in Westminster, praying for a free trade in pro-
visions.

Mr. WAKLLY prose nted a petition from sixteen per-
sonsmusical instruments,
residing in London, who gave employment to 600
persons, in the manufacture of cutlins, for strings for
stAtin that the petitioners had
g
heard with regret that it, vas proposed to reduce the duty
payable 'On the imporvAtion of foreign musical strings,
and praying the Hon se not to consent to any such
ProPos aion, as it woultt throw the petitioners and those
dependent on them out 'of employment.
LUNA? lc ASYLUMS.
•
The HoN. MEalllaa pis() presented a petition from
John Perceval,
9 lunatic asylum in 14 33, complaining of the manner in
of Kent ingron, who had been confined in
which lunatic asylums .were conducted, ui the inefficiency
of the Metropolitan Commissioners of Lunacy, and
praying for a Commi'Aue of inquiry.
STEAM-PRINTING PRESSES.
The HON. ME:mnEx
also presented a petition from 408
printers, complaining
of the use of steam-power in print-
ing ir.stead of manual labour, stating it as their opinion
that little was gai!aed by the public by printing
ma; alai labour, and calling the attention of the
papers' by steam-power instead of
par! i am en ta ry
He use to the conduct of the "Wesleyan Society,
wb ich in conseqnence of the representation of the peti-
tie ners had discontinued printing by steam, and had em-
pip eyed manual labour in its place, and praying the House
t , take the subject into its serious consideration, with a
view of affording them relief.
SOUTHWARK IMPROVEMENT BILL.
Mr.LLIAIBT(.)N Inning moved the third reading of
tuffs Bill. rose to propose the additional clause, of which
he had given notice, for allowing compensation to the
holders of Church leases, whose property might be sold
under the operation of the Act. The Hon. Member
stated that the clause bad been carefully examined and
corrected by the Solicitor-General, and had been ap-
proved by the Hon. and Learned Member fvr Worcester.

He alladed to the length of the holdings
the constant practice of renewals of the least4o
as giving ,the lessees a vested interest. It was eYpd....
cittlly a protective clause, and on the last dis-
cussipzi he bad endeavoured to prove how in--
juriouithe' ()Mission of it from the Bill would be ;
he had pointed out the many. cases in which the princi-
pie of coMpensation had been recognised, and that it.
was . even recognised in the present Bill itself. It
was only -fair, when this House,% by the. Act,
would compel the lessees to dispose of their property,
that the holders should receive -a just and marketable
value for it. Having used all these arguments on the
last discussion of the Bill, he did not think it necessary
to go into them again. The. Hon. Member concluded
I by moving that the clause should be added to the Bill.
The clause was then bruoght up and read a first time.
On the question being put that it be read a second time,
Sir R. INGLIS objected to the clause as totally un-
called for.
• Mr.LIDDELL said that he considered the clause
gave no new power whatever, but only a fair claim to
the real and marketable value of the property. The
clause did not intend to take away any right from the
Church, and he should therefore vote for the clause.
-Mr. G. KNIGHT opposed the clause, and said it was
evident, from the anxiety of the church leaseholders in
pressing the clause, that they expected some advantage
from it. ,

Mr. HARCOURT VERNON supported the clause.
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and • the
House divided, when the numbers were—

For the Clause
Against the Clause 3l
Majority
~. . . .

The clause was then ordered to stand part of the Bill.
Lord GRANVILLE SOMERSET said, that as
the clause had been carried, he should propose the ad-
journinent of the debate, in order to give him further
time to consider the connection of the clause, with other
parts of the Bill.
Mr. LAMBTON protested against, any further ad-
journment of a debate which had been already more than
once under discussion, merely because the Noble Lord
was defeated on a division. •

Strangers were then Ordered to withdraw, but no
division took place, Lord J. Somerset having withdrawn
his amendment.

After a few words from Mr. RICE and Lord GRAN-
VILLE SOMERSET, the discussion closed.

The Bill was then read a third time and passed.
ELECTION COMMITTEES—TIIETFORD.

The following Members were then called to the table,
and sworn as a Committee to try the merits of a petition
against the return for the borough of Thetford :—The
Right Hon. J. Planta, Sir G. T. Staunton, Hon. G. Rico
Trevor, Mr. R. Howard. R. R. Clayton, Sir D.J. Norrys ;
Mr. J. S. Pakenham, Chairman.
NurriNGHAM ELECTION.

The following Members were sworn to try the merits
of the petition against .the °return for the borough of
Nottingham :—Lord R. Grosvenor, Sir T. Acland, Mr.
T. Milner Gibson, Hon. H. Fitzroy, Mr. Fred. Dundas,
Hon. J. S. Wortley—Chairman, Air. G. Hayter.
NEWCA STLE-UNDER-LYNE ELECTION.

The following Members were sworn to try the merits
of the petition complaining of an undue return for the
Borough of Newcastle-under-Lyne :—Hon. H. Liddell,
Mr. R. Bernal, Viscount Courtenay, Mr. T. E. Cole-
brook, Mr. W. H. Bodkin, Mr. G. Trail ; Chairman,
Sir J. Y. Buller.
ORMSBY INCLOSURE BILL—LORDS' AMEND-