The Sun.
London, England, 1829-03-05 00:00:00

CLARE COUNTY ELECTION.

At eleven o'clock yesterday this Committee re-
assembled. Lord W. Russtit.i. took the Chair.
With the exception of the counsel, attornies, &e.
there were scarcely any persons in the room.
Mr. WALMESLEY, the cleric of the Committee,
read the petition against the return of Mr. O'Con-
nell, which set forth that on the hustings he (Mr.
O'Connell) said he was a " Roman Catholic, and
would s=o continue to the end of his life;" that " he
would never take the oaths," &c. It also detailed
the placard:—acts of intimidation—commands of
" vote for your religion," &c.

Mr. HARRISON asked whether it was requisite to
read the ►►hole of the petition ? All the allegations
,care abandoned except that as to the eligibility of
Mr. O'Connell. The question, in fact, reduced it-
self to a qu: stion of law.
The CHAIRMAN, after consulting with the Com-
mittee, acquiesced.
Mr. HARRISON then sail, that he had made a-
proposition to the Counsel of Mr. O'Connell. He
was instructed to submit that Mr. O'Connell was
ineligible to sit as a Member, and therefore to he
elected. He lied, consequently, to urge on the
Committee to direct the inquiry first to be made,
whether Mr. O'Connell was eligible ? If that qua -
tion were decided against him, such decision would
close his case, for all depended on that question. •
Mr. ADAm spoke to the like effect, observing that
by the Committee coming to such decision:, the time
would be materially saved.
Mr. F. POLLOCK replied on the part of
O'Connell. He had read all the Acts, and he no-
where could find the words, as to whether a " Ro-
man Catholic" was eligible or ineligible.
Lord W. Russad, desired Mr. Harrison to say,
in distinct terms, what was his proposition ?

_ .
31r. lIAERISON—It is this, that Mr. O'Connell,.
being a Roman Catholic, or Papist, was ineligible
to be elected, to be retut•ned, or to sit.
The Committee then desired the room to be
Bleared. After about ten minutes' consultation the
Counsel and Agents were re-admitted.
Lord. W. RUSSELL then said, us Chairman, I am
desired to inform you, that the Committee are of
opinion the Counsel for the petition should first
proceed to prove the fact.
Mr. HARRtsoN—That is, to prove the whole of
my case. •

CHAIRMAN—Yes, the whole facts of your case.
Mr. HARRISON then rose for such purpose. lie
premised with observing, that he should have to tres-
pass at great length, by first stating the law of the
case, the several statutes passed to exclude the Pa-
pists from the Houses of Parliament, namely-sth
Elizabeth, 3d James 1., 7th James 1., 30th Charles
1., and Ist William and Mary. They required the
Oaths of Allegiance and Supremacy first to be taken
before the Lord Steward, or his Deputy, and then
in the House, with the Speaker in the Chair. That
course continued down to the present time. The
first of Will;am and Mary particularly described the
former oaths, the modes of taking them, and again
enacted that they should still continue to be taken
in such mariner, and in none other. This was requi-
site to be enforced by the Convention Parliament,
because the Dissenters would not take the Oath of
Supremacy any more than the Papists, or Roman
Catholics ; for the one said that Christ was the head
of the Church, as the Papists declared the Pope to •
he. The first Act of William and Mary was the
only Act that applied to the case, though others
had been referred to—he meant by the gentleman
against whom he petitioned. He did not know, how
to describe that gentleman. He was not the
sitting Member, because he had not appeared to take
his seat ; he did not like to call him the " franking"
Member, as some had termed him ; he would there-
fore style hi►n by a term that was well known and
much used in Ireland—the " titular" Member for
Clare—and that would be equally applicable after
Mr. Vesey Fitzgerald should have taken his seat for
Clare. (A laugh.) He (Mr. H.) contended that
next to the laws existing, the constant practice of
the laws was the strongest proaf. No one ever
drea►nt that unnecessary oaths had been taken, till
the titular Member for Clare came with his new
light ; but he maintained that I William, c. 8, was
the governing statute, and referred to by 1 Geo. 1.,
6 Geo. 111. c. 53, as xvell as the Act of Union, re-
cognized it. The form of oaths were then settled,
and so continued down to the present time. (Mr.
H. argued these points at great length, reading the
several clauses of the different Acts.) But it was
said that no time was prescribed when the oaths
should be taken; this was answered riot only by the
Acts already named by the 33d Geo. 11. c. 20, all
which prescribed that the several oaths, &c. must
be taken " before they can sit or vote." Then,
unless the Member, whoever ire might be, intended
not to go into the House—he spoke seriee:;it.
—unless he desired to continue the " Titular"
or " franking" Member—the Member must take the
oaths " before" he took his seat, and voted. Un—
less he read the Acts, it would hardly be believed
that a barrister who ought to have known better,
could have asserted, in point, the pamphlets having
been most industriously circulated, that " no time"
was specified for taking the oaths. The like omis-
sions or broad assertions were made respecting Vele
verton's Act, the Union, &c. He contended tkas
the Act of Union, 39 and 40th Geo. 111., c.i'l";, said,
as regarded Peers, that they should tak'e the oaths
and make the declaration as then established by
law. It abrogated no laws, exes,..pt where That was
specifically done; but on th:e contrary enjoined the
taking and subscribing of oaths, &c., as previously
established. As to the doctrine held on the cons.
Crary, it was puerile and absurd. And as to "Ra-
man Catholics" being no where mentioned, as was
alleged by Mr. Pollock, the 33d Geo. 111., c. 21,
was expressly " for the further relief of Papists or
Roman Catholics." (Mr. H. then proceeded to read
these Acts, those of the Union, &c.)
The reading of the documents having been
allowed,

Colonel JAMES FITZGERAI.Dand Mr. MAcNAmAR
proved that Mr. O'Connell repeatedly declare on
the hustings that he was a Roman Catholic, •and that
he would not take the oaths.

Mr. IlmtnisoN said he should call no further evi-
denco on this part of his case.

The CHAIRMAN, after conrulting with the COM-
mittce, declared that it would be advisable to adjourn
the Committee till this day.
Adjourned accordingly till eleven o'clock tc,
morrow, (this day).

The Dilke, of Wellington, on his way to town
on Alonday morning from his seat at Strathfieldsay,e, stopped
txt hi.* Majesty's palace at Windsor, to have an. audience of
the King, and remained at the palace about two hours.
During the war in Spain, the troops fell short
of bread, and a bean-field was pur,:nased for their subsist-
ence, fatigue-parties being sent tc, gather the produce. Au
Irishman, on being sent cm 11Ris ',ay, exclaimed, " By
! I suppose they'll 14;4, ua out to grass next."
Most of thQ wipisters of the Kirk of Scotland
have 16 chairs of barley and meal. According to the
fiats just struck, the value of the living will be shoot.
4004 per annum.
128 bolls of barley nt '7s. £l7B
128 bolls of oatxieal,. 19s la,
Manse (six per cent. interest on 1,2001.) .„
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X 396

On Sundai; morning one of the patrols found
a gentleman in Haiper's-fields, Paddington, who, lives.
near Vauxhall-bridge, bereft of all his apparel, excepting
drawers and shirt, and he was brought to the watch-house
ill a state of insensibility. . It appears that .be bad beck
dining, and drinking freely, on Saturdly afternoon, witt4
a party in Brook-street, Grosvenor-square, and was after-
wards decoyed by some loose girls, who, taking advantage
of his indiscretion, robbed him of three sovereign* and his
clothes, and left him exp,,,,,d to the inclemency of a very
severe night. He is a married man, in respectable circum...
stances ; and as soon as he was able to give his address, !s
messenger was sent to make his wife acquainted with
circumstances and she fetched him home in a coach.

is rims opportimity of exereis ny their oft-,
cho'ee. Iu Newar',, grity had become he min
of h pos..e-sor. One of his voters to-day was Jas.
Brown. This man, who had formerly occupied a
hone under the Dike, having at the last election
voted for Mr. Bristowe, was turned out of his house
by the Duke's agents three days after the election,
aud his furniiure was sold. Blown, with tears in
his eyes, had that day told him his history, and he
would ask the electors, what was their opinion of
such conduct from a man who ought not at all to in-
terfere in elections? Was he not right in
at.king for a pledge that no elector should suffer
by the vote he 'gave ? That pledge had been de-
nied. The electors had the screw applied to theta.-
The poor of Newark were beyond all praise, for
they had braved the loss of house and home, for the
sake of voting according to their own conscience. Mr.
Sadler said, that principles were embarked in this
contest, and on .that point he would now speak.
The Duke of Wellington had never done any act
which had brought his honour or integrity in ques-
tion; he had not been eagerlor place; he had been
called by his Sovereign to the helm in the hour •of
difficulty and danger, which he now encountered in
the same way in which he encountered the enemy
at Waterloo, by meeting them boldly. With him
Mr. Peel was joined, who a short time since was
the centre of a powerful party against Catholic
emancipation. These and other eminent men,
gifted with the greatest talents, and possessing the
best sources of information, were of opinion that a
civil war was inevitable, aimless the laws against the
Catholics were reconsidered, anti they thought a
plan might be devised which would relieve the dis-
tressful situation of Ireland, and at the same time
preserve their venerable religion entire. Mr. Sadler
says, " Do not hear them ; do not listen to their
plans ; they ought not to be heard; trust to my judg-
ment, and do not hear them at all." He (the Ser-
geant) would say, " Do not mislead yourself or
others. Hear the plan Ministers have to propose,
and bestow upon it the consideration which tile im-
portance of the subject demands, and then form your
opinion upon it." The Sergeant concluded amidst
the applause of the meeting.
The town is in a state of great excitement. So
severe acootest has neve/ been witnessed in Newark.
Sergeant Wilde is the popular candidate, and not-
withstanding the advantage Mr. Sadler has in the
priority of his canvass, in the number, influence, and
Lower of the Newcastle party, and in the No-Popery
cry which they have attempted to raise, it is quite
uncertain on whom the election will full.

STATE OF TPIL r 01.1., THIRD DAT-WEDNESDAT.
Mr. Sadler... 769
Mr. Sergeant Wilde 616

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