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THU' RS AY A PRI L 16, 1818

PARLINAIE.L,4`I'.

13,0 USE OF LOWS, WEDNESDAY, APRIL 15.

'Conn.-el were heard in contintiation respecting
the Appaf on the Queensberry Cause.—To Pro,.
ceeu again on Friday.
The I ish Privkitely Stealing Bill was brought
up from the Common; by Mr. Brogden and others,
and read the first tithe ;. as' were several Private
Bills, presented by Mr Cost anti other•Mentbers.
On the motion.of the Earl of LAUDERDALE, the
Orth:r for stinovoning their Lordships to-morrow,
on his Lordship's intended motion respecting the
Cur:eneY and Finances._ of the tOtnitt'y, was dis-
charged, and a similar U. der made for Monday
next.
_The Marquis of OWNSHIR11,_118Vill& obtained
leave to withdraw his motion. of 'yesterday on
the subject, ..tittmitted to their Lordships a new
one tor an Address to the Prince Regent; praying
thtv an Account of all Emoluments, Pensions,
Salaries, kind Annuities held and enjoyed by their
Royal ,Highnesses the Dukes of Clarence, Kent,
Cumberland, Sussex, and Cambridge, from Of-
fices, Naval, Military, or Civil, or Emoluments
derived front other sources, maybe laid before the
House ; which Was ordered accordingly.

INTENDED ROYAL MARRIAGES.
The Order of the Day for taking the Prince
Regent's Message, on this subject, into considera-
tion being moved, his Royal Higlineis's' most
gracious Message was again read by the Clerk,
after which
The Earl of •LtYS:epooe said, he rose for the
purpose of proposing an answer on the part of
the House to the Prince Regent's Message, which
their Lordships had just heard lead. A Noble
Lord, who yesterday. moved an ,amendment, and-
herd strongly •objected to the motion for postpon-
ing the Order of the Day, grounded it on the con-
sideration that au order of •the kind had never
been before postponed. He would admit that if
no more was intended to be proposed than a mere
formal answer, thanking the Illustrious Person-
age tor-his Royal Cenoottnicatiou, the objection
of that Noble Lord would have been well found-
ed ; but tinder the peculiar -circroustances of the
case, by fs'lt it his duty to accompany the motion
for 'an Address whit a clear and candid explana-
tion, not only as to the intentions of what
was .. meant to he proposed, but the. views
which. his Majesty's Government . entertained
upon the subject. The Address,, however,
which- he cvas about to propose, would be
framed so that no difference of opinion could
be rationally entertained upon it. It would not
go to pledge the House to any opinion upon the
subject, or to the adoption of any particular ar-
rangement. it would Only state the readiness and
disposition of the House to concur in such suits
able arrangements as may be deemed neces-
sary to carry the gracious and salutary ohja;ts
set forth in the Message into effect. The propo-
sition, according to the general. custom and
usage' in such cases, might so toni, without any
-explanation necessarily accompanying it ; but, as
he bed stated, in the..prcsent case, it was intended
to go (either; and thongh lie was aware that any
explanation in an incipient stage of the busi,,lesS,
canstitutionallyspea.kiog, 'could not be necessary
in that House ; inasmuch, as speaking in that
view, all that related to the pecuniary part of the
question must originate elsewhere. It was thete-
fore impossible for .his Majesty's Mieisters to
speak decisively or. the. point, as they could not
tell what the fate of tlee proposition maybe else-
where—whether rejected altogether, or to under-
gb,more or less modification or".alteration. Pro-
posed 'measures of the kind cool(' regularly be ,
brought before their Lordships only in the shape
of a pill or Bills, when that House would have
a discretionary power
,in the way of discussion.
Thus, though no necessity could regularly exist
as "to' such an explanation, circumstances more
or less may exist to reader it advantageousor
desirable. The last occasion of the kind which lie
recollected was in the year 1815., when.be felt it
right and Proper upon that occasion to exp!ain to
the House what the 'mentions of his Majesty's
Government were. Bo he never felt more anxious
than in the preseut instance to afford full expla-
nation, as he felt, whatever the ultimate Lresult
of tliese propositions might be, it would be
acting a • manly and a candid part to state. fully
the intentions of the Executive - Government,
and upon what these \ detertninations
.wete
founded : in short, to put the House in possession
of every (biol.; he himself knew upon the subject.
lu this.view, he would first call tbeir Lotdships'
attention to the present situation of the illustri-
ous Family in goestion. They all most feelingly
tementber the deep calamity which "took place io
November last. Wheo the first ebullition of
grief at the petsOnal loss of the illustrious Pe:son-
age to wlsour he alluded (and whose name could
never- be mentioned without feelings of regret),
had subsided, the first question which every in-.
dieidual naturally put to himselland his neighbour
wase--How such an event wool(' operate upon
the important event of the• Succession to the
Tt:rone ? They, all knew that Providence hail
blessed its with a titonerous progeny ;•bitt it was
a singular cirenmstance attending the illustrious
F'aimly, that oust of twelve,, wt.() weee actually
sevetesons and five daughters, the youngest
of the Princes was 44 years of age, and of the
other part of the Family, none miner 40 years of
age.. When he" stated this-, and their Lordships
attentively considered the situation of the tlescen-.
darts of the Electress Palestine, the necessity of
some steps being adopted reletive to it most be ob-
vious to all; and the HU C 116.11 of the Executive
GoVerunient of this country was imperiously call-
ed to t4e subject. Nccprdin,gly its ituportauce was

duly adverted to in the speech delivered on the
pint of the Prince Regent at the commencement
'of the Session, and anarrangement respecting it
recommended by his Royal LtighoeSs tri'' the se
rious consideration of Patliament. In conse-
quence, the subject was eventually brought be-
fore the House, not as an individual case; oneon-
: 'secret! with considerations of political expediency
or urgency ; but it came before them as an irn--
portant and urgent 'political consideration. Ott
that ground it was the 'defy •of the Executive.
Government to view it, and not to consider it
merely with respect to alliances, however advan-
tageous or respectable. Their-Lordships therefore
had to look at the question 'generally, and upon,
some general' prinCiple, but not to proceed upon
it as a separate case. In saying this, be did not
mean that Parliament ought not-to decide upon
eicil ease separately; but Parliament., he thought,
were more likely to form a more proper judgment,
when it was told thA what the Executive Govern-
ment proposed to do was applicable to the clues=
tion as a eeneral.subject. In this view, he could
only say what was the intention of the Executive
Government, and he stated it, in order that their
Lordships might be in possession of the whole.--
The Prince Regent's servants did not think it un-
reasonable, under the present circumstances of
the case, to propose for .his Royal Highness the
Duke of Clarence an addition to his. present in-
come of 19,5001. Nvhich would make up the whole
40,0001. per Ronan'. They did not think it un-
reasonable, with respect to- the Doke of Cam-
bridge, to propose an addition of 12,0001, making
up the whole of his Royal Highness's income
30,0001. To the Duke of Kent, a' similar sum.
They deemed it their duty also to propose a simi-
lar provision for the Duke of c3umbei land: This,
he had no difficulty in'saying, was what they had
proposed and felt:it their duty to lay. before Par-
liament. With respect to the case of his Royal
Highness the Doke of Clarence, they thought it
peculiarly circumstanced, so as to distinguish.it
Irons the others. Though he• wax not, strictly
speaking, the heir presumptive, yet he was consi-
dered nosy as placed nearly in a similar situation
as the Doke of York in 1792, when, on the Occa-
sion of his marriage, it was, not deemed tioreason-
able by the great man then at the head of the Ad-
ministration. (Mt;. Pitt) to make up his., Royal
Highness's income (his Regiment of Guards in-
cluded) to the sum of 40,000/. a-year. Their
Lordships would consider this was twenty-five
years .ago. They were aware of the great d-iffer-
ence since in the value of money, and in the prices
of every article of purchase. In these views of
the case, they did nut think it unreasonable, there,
fore, to make the former case the ground for their
proposition, with respect to his Royal Highness
the Duke of Clarence. He was old enough to re-
member the interesting discussions upon the for-
mer question. The proposition was not only ably
forpported by the great man then at the head 'of
affairs,
,but also by.a great and respectable chit;
ra.cter at the head then,of what is 'called the Op-
position. He meant the late INIr. Fox. He re-
collected the only point that was pressed at the
time was, how tae the House bail a right to cal-
culate upon the income of Bishop of Osnaburgh.
It was held, not only by his Right Hon. Friend,
Mr. 'Pitt, but also by Mr. FOx;
,that Parliament
had nothing tO do with the consideration of the in-
come of the Bishop of Otuablikigh, or with whatever
a. British Prince might derive from foreign sources,
but that his Royal Highness sleould be consider-
ed merely as a British Prince. And in- another
' point of the .discussion, no remarks made a
greater, impression than those of Mr. Fox ; he
meant • upon, the question of the outfit, which
teas strccessfttlly contended, for - by' him as es-
sentially necessary
,on an occasion of the kind.
Their Lordships would bear in mind that all this
twenty-five years ago, and certainly, in
that view, such a sAti» proposed now- could not be
deemed unreasonable, as in the case of the Duke
of Clarence. Their Lordships world alsOl'ecol-
lect, that when; upon the joyous occasion of the
establishmeot of the late Princess Charlotte, the
sum. of 60,0001. per aunum was proposed fur the
Illustrious Persooages, no .vote ever met with
more general approbation. lu the present case,
it was proposed to raise the whole.amount Of in-
conse to only 40,0001, There was certainly an,
eNception to arrangements of this kiA .urnislied
by the case of an Illostrions Individual;his High-
ness the Duke of Gloucester, who did not deem
,it prcpar to apply to P.oitls men t for an increase
of _income, deeming that .which he received with
his Illustrious Consort sufficient tinder- the cir-
cumstances of the case. In framing .these
propositions, his Majesty's Government were
pot actuated by any coosideration of partiali-
ty, hut were inclined to do justice to By
a principle of this kind they were actuated as
the case respected his' Royal Highness the Duke
of Comb9rland ; not withstanding on a foraner
occasion their Lordships concurred in an Ad-
dress with respect to his Royal Highness ; and
subsequently, as they 'learned from the Votes of
the other House, from what had taken place; no-
thing further could then be done upon it. Since
that period, it was not judged expedient or-pro-
per to bring it forward; but their Lordships were
aware Aliat a general arrangement was about to •,
he propot,ed for the Princes of the,Royal Farnily.
They may conceive their conk( he no groinidS for
making that Illustrious Personage au exception,
and his
,case was tieern'ilingly to be_submitted to
Parliament at the same time with those of his
Royal Brothers. With respect to the important
consideration of meeting the expellees so pro-
posed to be incurred, their Lordships k‘ odd
recollect that a sum to a considerable amount
had been set aside for the payment of the
Prince Regent's debts. These were now neatly
liquidated; its about a year, or a year. and a halt,-;