The Sun.
London, England, 1818-05-28 00:00:00

PL ACES IN REVERSION.

The Earl GROSTENOR gave notice, that he
•would move for the Abolition of Giants in never-
Sioll on this day se'nnight (Wednesday).
EDUCATION OF THE POOR.
The EA of ROSILYN, pursuant to his notice,
rose to move the second reading of the Bill on this
sobject. His Lordship prefaced his motion with
a speech at some length, in which he detailed the
olture, object, and leading provisions of the Bill ;
particularly those for constituting the Commis-
.s;ooers of Inquiry, and the powers with which it
teas deemed necessary to furnish those Commis-
'filo:let's. These being so repeatedly in detail be-
fore ow readers in the course of the various dis-
cussions which took place on the subject in the
other House of Parliament. we deem it urine-
sessary to recite them. He expatiated on the
beneficial results which would arise from the adop-
tion of the measure, and adverted to. the good
effects of the improved System of Education in the
Wnerrern -part
.of the Island. The Committee
,cuuld diroid* the -iiiost suitable opportunity of I

discussing in detail the various .provisions of the
Bill. The Noble Earl concluded by moving its
second readiug-.
The LORD CHANCELLOR rose and took a gene-
ral view of the leadtAt.; provisions and effects of
the Bill, and which, in its operation, as the mea-
sure then esented itself to the House, he was de7
cidedly of opinion, would be far more detrimental
to the interests at charity than- it could he benefi-
cial. His Lordship- ailver;ed to the various anti
almost insuperable difficulties which we:e felt,
when cases of the kind, ominently contemplated
in the Bill, came before the Court of Chancery
even %vitt► the best assistance that could
obtained from the Master of the Rolls and the
Vice Chancellor and where such questi.ms were
generally ,to be considered as referable to the
existing law of the coniitty, andtty, to the acknow-
ledged pttnciple that tilt Crown was charged with
the dot); at attending to Charities so bestowed.
It was also a principle to be observed, that the
trustees should meet with every lair and due pro-
tection ; for unless those persons were so pro-
tected from vexatious suits and applications, it
would he impracticable to find an honourable trn--
tee to act. Alter torciUly observing upon those
points, his Lordship expressed his wish, that in so
saying, be may not he understood as not admit-
ting that the objects of the Bill should not be
forwarded, or that he may he understood as say-
in there were not still (whatever the extent
comparatively speaking may be) great ah'tsr ex-
isting. They should consider the generl prin-
ciples of law and jw,tice, as applying to the ge-
neral interests of these important institutions•;
and above all, how far they could, consistently
with these great principles, ;;lye their ton Sent to
the Bin as it now stands. And as an individual.
it was his conviction their Lordships could not
consistently concur in the measure, unless it re
ceived some great and important alterations. He
would not object to their Lordships' going into a
Committee on the Bill.

Lord HOLLAND denied that it was an object of
the Bill to correct any abuses iu chatities. It
was merely to ascertain, by iovestipcion, ihe na-
ture and extent of such abuses as were in exist-
ence ; their removal would necessarily be the ^e•
stilt of another proceeding. lint where was the
injustice ut the incestiga:iot► ? For his oven prt.
he knew not whether abuses existed or nut ; but
certain he was that tl►e nation should not remain
ignorant on so impOrtant a matter. The educa-
tion of the poor was a subject well worthy of the
attention of Parliament, and the present state of
that education it was at least useful to inquire
into. The Noble and Learned Lord seemed an-
xious to fi fault ;.vith the Bill. In truth, he was
generally more remarkable fur picking holes it)
the Bills of others than its bringing in perfect
Bills himself. This might be consideted strange,
remembering the acumen which the Noble and
Learned Lord possessed. Bit to bring in a goon'
Bill, and to find faults in Bills brought in by
others, required different talents. He (Lord H )
recollected, that an Hon Friend of his was very
much distinguished during the American war in
the oprsi!ion, but that spun joining the Admi-
nistr,iti Olt helust much of his reputation for,ta
lent. It was asked, was not this unaccountable ?
The answer was, not at all, for a man Who had
-been distinguished for breaking windows, is all
at once made a glazier ! what could 6e expected?
—(A laugh.)—The Noble Lord conchtded with
tecommending the Bill, as one of the greatest
impot ranee and utility, to their Lordship's appro-
bation.

Lord REDESDALE opposed the Bill upon the
grounds already stated by the Lord Chancellor,
and thought that however necessary it nmi•ght op=
pear to some that the House should legislate on
the sncijeet, the present Bill was incapable of
receiving such improvement in the Committee as
would remove the objections to which it was

Lord 3 HOLLAND and REDESDALE!WaIIy ex

The EArl of CARNARVON spoke in favour of the
Bill.

The House then divided on the question for go
ing into the Committee—

For the Committee
Against it -
Majority —
The House having resolved itself into a Corn-
rnittee.on the Bill, a clan'se was atleptecl,• on the
proposition of Lurd Liverpool, confining tl►e in-
quiry of the Commissioners to Charities establish-
ed for the purpose of Education. Several verbal
atnendments were also agreed to, after which the
House resumed, and tl►e Report was ordered to be
received to-morrow.—Adjourned at half-past 11.