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would prevent cruelty being practised upon those who
bile to protect themselves
The Z.;11 was then read a third time.

On the question that the Bill do pass,
Mr. viLLIEas concurred with the Hon. Mernber
Wiltshire (Mr. Beneti j that the passing of this Bill o_,
be an honour to the Legislatuic, but he wished, in deferscebo
his Friend the Member for Bolton (Mr. Ainsworth), and t
Hon. Gentlemen who had supported 3tim, to observe tliatil $
delay that bad been caused in the prf3ress of the
their part, arose from a desire to halm the In.-50
more fully discussed. They could not leibdate on&
subject too soon, but the interest of the persons'efince7,.
order to be fairly dealt with, required that there 11,1,..,°
further discussion of the question. He trusted tbat 17.4
measure was under consideration in another place;tl3.,,ftio.
jectionable parts would be struck out, sod the gOCIa I"-
retained.

Mr. W. ATTWOOD had-always supported the in,—botir
introduced by the Noble Lord for the protection of the ,41the
ing classes, but he thought the present Bill was horned r
hastily through the House. He doubted whether the arr:hrs
ment, which limited the time of the labour of the boys 0 0
days per week would be attended with beneficial effect °off,
employers, or would admit of the boys themselves eartlYignrect.
cient for their maintenance. He thought that maul hold
ments might be made in the Bill of the Noble Lord, tul
the object which he had, in view completely carried eat' by 01
Mr. STANSFIELD deprecated the course pursued
Commissioners in arriving at the faets set forth in their 101:30.0
He thought that a general law should not be passed, rffli
abuses prevailed in some places. What would be t
to ib<
if they proceeded in the same way with regard basil
Poor-laws? He considered the House was proceeding 100„10.
in legislating on the subject. The boys were to be efirt
three days in the week by the present Bill ; but wPaloyei'
they to do the other days when they were not to be else ie.,
He thought they were proceeding to do good under-e,'„„ eft'
pression, and, while they were anxious to get rid °"„" clie°
were about to fall into another. The Eton. Gentle°.„'i coo'
referred to the Report of one of the Commissioners,w°ll,o
tamed statements of a careless, if not of a very Vl,'
nature. He stated that one of the masters threw
weight at one of the boys, which made his eyes black Int OP
Now he (Mr. Stansfield) was surprised it did not n° 411
him altogether. But the fact was, that a sort of stiel, called
" cut" was used in the mines; and it was this which 'cas,
and not a "hundred weight," as was stated by thee oral'
sioners.—(Laughter.) He did not mean to jaatifioss 0
but it showed the manner in which the Report was
_tie sr
Now, he did not think it was fair to legislate gette"rit,ll
such 'statements. The, colliers ought to know, at ljn
charges which were to be brought against them. reltit
least, was disinterested in the view he took upon tb„cour
because he did not possess a single coal-mine, and he,
but deprecate the haste in which the Bill was passeu'diffi,
Mr. BROTHERTON rose for the purpose of ali ,
what had fallen from the Hon. Member for WhitehO'ises
was known that boys of five, and six, and seven yeallt
were employed in the mines, and did not see the lig ,oti
than once in the week. Now, was it right that 510'1;01 gi
things should continue ? He did not think it ou„,,,ltig,
would, therefore, support the proposition of the i""
He felt no hesitation in supporting the third readlte
Bill, considering that the Noble Lord was entitled to th
of the country for bringing it forward.—( Hear, hear.),-,,,
Mr. HAW KES thought that the coalowners in
shire had great cause of complaint in not being lerelr
quainted with the provisions of the Bill. He should, t
oppose its third reading.
After a few observations from Mr. FIELDEN,
Lord ASHLEY replied.
Lori PALMERSTON hoped that the Bill joifti
without any alteration, which he was sure it Noillje, d
had the support Qf her Majesty's Government elsewbersertF
support had been prt:mised in that House, and he Waa,./
Majesty's Government would support it in the House
The Bill was 'then real a third time and passed, a'
cheers.
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of,
House adjourned at Ten o'Clock.

HOUSE OF LORDS, July 5•

Their Lordships met at Five o'ClOck. 4!
ANATOMY ACT. borf,t
Lord STANHOPE gave notice that on 0:
next he would present a petition respecting lietAll
teti,e
Act, to which he would call their Lordships A
RAILWAYS BILL. I
A message from the Commons brought uP
ways Bill, which was read a first time, and erdere
read a second time on Friday.
EMPLOYMENT IN MINES. oefri
Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition froia,,Eig a,
employed in mines in a part of Yorkshire, pra)ror
the House would not assent to any enactment
lating their employment without inquiry. viff44l
CUSTOMS' DUTIES ACTS—(THE T. gr
On the reading of the Order of the Day for V'e
reading of the Customs Duties Acts, 1,,c1r,i
The Earl of RIPON said that from what„'
stated by Noble Friends of his on the opporn
the House, and more especially -by l'l3,ici*
Friend on his left (Lord Stanhope), he un'reti,
many objections to the alterations in the tariffPeenj
in the Bill which stood for third reading this e
but he did not think, from the appearance of the.ed ge
that the objections would be very seriously pres;ati'r
certainly he thought that they. would not he oce A
But notwithstanding this anticipation, the rac ,
volved matters of considerable importaactt'
as regarded principle and detail, tha o`iy,
Lordships might naturally expect that he„r:
lay before them the grounds on which Pt`eoi,
jesty's Government were led to adopt so e%
change in the customs' regulations of the ,
This subject had from time to time attracted tl/ Or,
tion of Parliament ; nor was it wonderful. F° 1,
twenty-five.years of war which closed the last ee:A
the necessities of the country had compelled the, lot''':,
ment to lay on duties on commodities ot
production for purposes of revenue. These,
which were first laid on for fiscal purpoe;-ter,
created, in course of time, protected it :
which Parliament did not contemplate when' fell;
posed the duties. On the return . •Of.sigeeld
which altered the position of this country in r',ot
the rest of the world, the attention of Parlitnaii;)?
drawn (after the restoration of the currency ill of its
the state of the import duties. Two petitions 0,
importance were presented—one by tie Noble
chid
opposite (the Marquis of Lansdowne), °l' iel`;o,
motion a Committee was appointed t 0 do ti
into the whole question of the itnlVirt 001
That motion was most cordially acceded a 04,
the Government of Lord Liverpool, who, at tja
time, stated that there was a difficultY
era
sequence of the interests that had
tea atr
during the war. In a word, no one ent"V;!
that the view of Lord Liverpool was, that
the circumstances of the country would free '4,
would be necessary to revert to a more to
open system of fiscal regulation in respect le 4J,
merce.—(Hear, hear, hear.) That princite
admitted by every person on every side of t °lit)"
as the rule by which the commercial ;)/be
Pun
the country should be governed.—(Hear.) titp6t
gress of the alteration had been slow, and Pcr;l,,y, Py
slow than was consistent with good PT:Jig t,/
was not one of those who thought so, %%10 di:
of opinion that all such changes s"-ositi°,),"
gradual, and ought not to be introduced in Wheel, ri3O
the general feelings, or, as some considered ;
judices, of the people. Yet the principle dinc,VV
and alterations were made in the tariff. .er° 01)
was appointed by the other House, and whate`itef,
be thought of the prepossessions of that Collllllfice bld
the interested motives of some who gave evi°f[e isir
it, it was impossible to look in t' Cottifi,
which were appended to the Report of that,,j,,Psp
tee, without being convinced that it was als_;olutyodeopi
sary to revise the tariff.—(Hear, hear.) Tl,oid 019
to consider the principle upon which they shou 0 V
the revision of the tariff. This was a work of
il.'ocorieio
difficulty. The first consideration was, what PorticOei
the existing duty bore to the average price ofithd
bond. It was quite clear that unless they uta
could not come to a just conclusion. °flit fr;:ticlA°
upon whieh they went was to put awaY athe
nuns. 'Another consideration was relative to veP"
necessary for our own manufactures, and 'tnecoillY;
manufactured articles, which would come it"tf -re*. the;
tion with our own. On all the articles ,° Cirle
red
terial, with but few exceptions, the Prtri/
adopted was to limit the duty within 'II iroliA,r
on the value of the article, and as !nue f pee ti
as was practicable. In the case of articles toooroil
manufa eure, which were likely to come
tion with our own manufactures, such -00'
silk, then it was proposed that the a elen„.eVe'j
duty should not exceed ten per eell"theteilea'i
value, and that on the manufactured articlesdoti rittoo'
they laid it down as a general rule that the the eat gl
be from 12 to 20 per cent. Mr. Huskisson, 0.,
tion introduced by him laid the protective rten hib
per cent. The duty on cotton wool was 10 Pe„ flt4for.c;
on woollen stuff 15 per cent., which was 11°' theyll;,
tion, although it was a protection. Thl'ec.ol':iill";
began by reducing the dut) on all articles ne t
the' production of manufactures to the loolieit
rate. But the circumstances would net Ilto
change. On the two articles so material
manufacture, cotton wool an woollen stud 0101,'01:,
was retained. The reason no reducon ha restreaa,L,
in these articles was, that it would beti
at o°;fok
to the revenue. In selecting the other dutie 0.000410"
tion, they had considered that the onu.
Irttrhfelcilloc (";
more benefited by their reduction than the cll‘'
stained from that reduction, and reduced ct to 6a tPI;
foreign wool and cotton wool. With reSPence 011)f
treaty had been negotiated between Frecootrler, jd
country for the purpose of placing the tw°_el,
more satisfactory footing with regard to ent,reg,ll,reol.:
course in that treaty the first article the 'Tilst 'l,, 0'
expect a reduction upon would be silk' not entercl''l3;
from circumstances into which he would wog cvtlk,
not brought to a satisfactory conclusion• that t,icel,
stances he deeply regretted, but lie hoPe,tid he: pot
_A
was not far distant when that treaty W°...005 turfgar:o
plished, for it would be most advants!„oeith 11 hoe
The same remarks which he had made astivrtinies%,
to silks would apply to a variety of otherars t.P.I)
it was his lot to propose, nearly oliceellit.eY,lci??,:,,7:l:oti‘,El;lo,
modification in our commercial tariff, oleo ~„te r,
general approbation of the House,
regard to silk, that the same course shun] `;00 b
was now proposed. He was firmly of °l)rienilal va,tollorld
rangements might be made of a cornme.hich I,,ere
tweet' this country and other countries, I, ,oceerdshipd
of the greatest advantage to this country' Deropesieh,
variety of other articles upon which „ere re JeiVt,
would find that considerable alterations ".hick h
otiose
by this tariff ; and there was one article
of lit
call an article of manufacture, NS bid' WnS..,,ort
e i 5 I"
11005 e till
importance, to which, on account o the sos,ct,
begged briefly to call the attention of .iober
that the r
article was timber. He conceived that
_ne
article in which every one was concerned orerY °of
should be low ; it was an article in wnfhe vale!. ons ere,
interested ; it formed alike a Part iinbtearer
Sovereign, and the cottage of the -tt, and in t
ployed in forming luxurious comfor:_nce, vg the
ments of the agriculturist. Its imp wt of
building could nut be denied. Ile b_othez.
Pis Cho e
call the attention of the House toorausiiipE,.-- c0)1,1;,.
tariff, which was the provisioning foralb,
at present stood, a vessel going,nwohich ote
paid 120 duty upon sugar