The Sun.
London, England, 1816-03-21 00:00:00

Self' it friend to the %louse »I Ilrintstti&-(hear,•
hear, hear !).'—and who was aux:IOUS to support
that establishment which had grown out of our
glorious Revolutioti—(Hear, hear 19 The Hon.
Gentleman hatk stated a profligate system to be
acted upon at Court-611;dd described 'the errors
of the Stuarts to be comparatively harmless 5 they
were bigots, whose ileinsions were excue.lible ;
but. now there was no feeling 'for tire distress (if
the country---no conscience to suggest relief• for
the people to be found in the high quarter re.
ferrul to hear, hear !)-• This. was. in
substance what the Honourable Gentleman had
Paid. and this, till now, he had never heard
from any friend to the present BoYal Famikr,
amr to the British Constitution-- (Hear, heat i)
01. 'that Learned Gentlemmin, whose words he
had taken down, thought proper to observe, that
" time conduct of the House of Stuart was some-
. what excusaide, becimie .it was the result of re-
!igloos scruples and 'tome tenderness of con-
seietice,, but that recent conduct proceeded from
those who had
.no scruples or tenderness of con-
science whatever." Soch were Cie
lions which, in his (111.. Pole's) mind, were
utterly Inexcusable', and left no doubt of the
Learned Gentleman's rneauiug. (I lear, hear !)
The lion. Gentleman,'with mespeet to the gimes-
tiim before' the House, was wrong in his facts.
The race of the second Secretary wets not new,
as Ire had. supposed. Sir Philip, Stevens went to
it 1759, arid the office had been regularly filled
from that period. It was impossible for the roll»
tine of the btlSinesi to he got through silthont
two Secretaries.; lie (Mr. BrOugliatul luau stutted
the increase made on the Secretaries' salary to
amomit to half the sum paid to the widows and
.orpliamis ir(tilose 'who had fallen in battle. If he
looked at the estimates that would come before the
II rinse On 'Monday, he would find 40,000/, added to
them, to.etinble the Admiralty to pity the whole of
them,
,With regard to the insidionsat tempts to exeit e
jealons'e,4 by cOmpariSons between the treatment
of the civil and military, he was enabled to i Say
that time Officers of the Navy telt themselves fully
conteoted with the present as rangement; and that
especially
,with regard t itiows' Pensions no
ground. of complaint whatever existed. The Naval
and Military Officers experienced, indeed', a inure
liberal consideration frouri this country than ,let'-
sons similarly eircnnistanced met in any come•
try in 'Europe, and it was 'notorious t hat they
ge:,erally, expressed themselves satisfied With
that, considetatimi: Disiootent could not, there-
fore, he excited among that meritorious.,
However the 'Learned Gentlemao `anight eat.
celate.upoo 'the success of his views from his
tothendt Tn. or other topics.trom,whieli.
he might expect to woo some pupil! n'o y. Timere
wept ruary, no i.1,:m14, who would noire the repeal
of all toes, however the 60sernmeot stood in
imeNl orstiplOiesOr!A Such malcautemitsi he Learn-
Gentient,ra rust bt tVist: tit co flit nviawr
-the Guvr,,,ifactit 11,11 iii., Parliament coat etpcet
fonitiatt;, 401 her iiopc(;, that
iiiltlii't' woeld ever :kb' $ll6 ilftVetCkittl.
tfc,ir Govetennent• hat! 'not t.ile
suoif)rt of the .1,e41:110 Geotkoian of Wu*
!it; t.lli4teib Cu ht t :ii.:to.ters with veb04...4;:%:ii
,AmOtt ever 'be saeed t'roM thee,i"; ,114'0 tf the
Liraineti Geotlem":,ll, 144 11-n.di'tfe 'views which he
that 'right tlisclot ed, tolchriopirukt
,trom provv ex-
' an,ly ?fir liouour.,He (1en-
,,..;;1p!T1 futile ;tedike romital and. t:;lior«tcr.er of die
2„\:4l;rtt cow-
•,,ed alp it s.:As of such wen its I,Ord
At(luiral D,,uset, Fordyce •-:or!
Seale, muLA e,:onnand tiniverod respect. Bin
the respectall.olity 41f those Commissioners was
testified in their reports,- upon which the most
inqn!rtant improvements in the naval department
were grominded: These -Cominissioners had, by
advaned. tile views and con,
firmed the ohjects olevery preceding Commission,
instead of takieg a contrary direction, as had that
night been imisineated. Their' reports had been
• looked to as the' ablest and most important
whieh Jed
.been poldished, arid if so their
hilnwrs' should inn be Considered as good for
nothing, and their advice. disregarded. The
Honourable Members opposite 'had fallen into a
grear error mite', they stated, that.. a MllMent
of p;:ace had been chosen for this increase. in
‘tinsitiln* to that lie should observe, that the me-
morial on the subject was dated the 25th of
March, a time when a war was about to'he corn-
melleed, the terinieatioo, of which cool(' not be
viewed as a matter likely to take place'in a short
time, and he contended that his Hon. Friendi
'were right in attending' to the arfggestion which
had been made to them at that particular period.
With regard to the question, whether the present
salary of the 'Secretary to the Admiralty, wit's
too ninth in time of peace, he admitted it was
one on which, the House had a right to inquire,
butt the proper time for that inquiry would be
when the Estimates should come regularly be-
fore 'Um. That be conceived would -be the pro-
per time for their opinion ; but.es to the general
question of economical redaction, connected with
the queetion before the House, he contended that
his Noble Friend had civilly Proved it to be the
plinciple on which he and his colleagues had acted,
by the documents which he hail read in the course
of his speech..
Mr. Haunt-a:oast understood, that a mast point-
ed anti personal attack haul been made upon him
in his nbsence,. by the Right Hon. Gentlemen.
He had been informed, that the night Hob. Gen-
, denims had said, be had taken off the'mask to.
night anti disclosed principles hostile—(No, tto i)
unfriendly to the Brunswick Family. It
was do light matter, that language should be
held respecting any Member, that might be thus
construed.

Mr. WELLIISIAtIe Pout repti4d, that what he
had said wits cal in the reculleetinn of the fionit.-,
and he was certain they would agree in Saving,
that be had not used any words in the sense in
which the Honourable and Learped Member (Mr.
grongliitoo bad just stated.
Mr. IlitotiOnam then tuideratood the Right
Gentleman tretsly not only that he had Hot used
words be l!ad repeated, but that he had opt
made the supposed charge ag4inst his principles'.
Mr. W. role repeated the words be had asedin
his
.speech.
Mr. IltintmnAm shortly replied that be Was as
airiCetit trial& to the. itlustuou9 familt iitits at