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IRISH FISHERIES.

Col. CONOLLY gave notice that when the Irish
Fisheries Bill was considered he should move an addi-
tional clause.

MINES AND COLLIERIES.

Mr. AINSWORTH gave notice that on clause No. 3
of the Mines and Collieries Bill being considered, he
should move an amendment, defining the age and number
of hours which should be fixed fur the employment of
children in mines.

Mr. HUME moved for some return, in continuation
of a former return ordered by the House, the terms of
which did not reach the gallery.

THE DUIDAg AFFAIR.

Lord WORSLEY rose and said—Mr. Speaker, I wish
to ask the Right Hon. the Secretary-at-War, whether
the report so generally circulated, as to the Hon. Col.
Henry Dundas having used language disrespecful to her
Majesty, has attracted the notice of the official authorities,
and whether an inquiry has been made as to the truth
of that report. I should be happy if I can ascertain
that such is not the case ; but if lam informed that it
is so, I should like to know whether the official autho-
rities have in any way marked their displeasure.
Sir H. HARI)INGE said, in answer to the question
put by the Noble Lord, I have to state that Colonel the
Hon. Henry Dundas was requested by the Commander-
in-Chief, immediately on the circumstances re-
ferred to by the Noble Lord being known,
to furnish such explanation as he had to offer.
Having given that explanation the Commander-in-
Chief thought that Colonel the Hon. Henry Dundas
had failed to absolve himself from the grave offence
which had been imputed to him of having spoken disre-
spectfully of her Majesty; and under those circumstances
the General Commanding-in-Chief felt it to be his duty
to submit to her Majesty that Colonel, the lion. Henry
Dundas be dismissed from his office of Queen's Aide-de-
Camp ; and further, that Colonel, the Hon. Henry Dun-
das, be removed from the copiimand of the 83d Regiment.
and placed on half-pay.—(Loud cheers.) Her Majesty's
Government entirely concur in that measure, and her
Majesty has been pleased to signify her approval of the
recommendation of the General Ccmmanding-in-Chief.
—(Cheers.) That decision has been communicated to
Colonel Dundas.—(Cheers.)

Lord JOHN RUSSELL wished to ask the Right
Hon. Baronet, Secretary for the Home Department, if
he intended to introduce a Bill in the course of the pre-
sent Session, with respect to the College of Physicians
and the College of Surgeons ? He wished to know
whether the Right Hon. Gentleman intended to in-
troduce a Bill with respect to the charter, of
these two colleges, and supposing that Bill altered these
charters, if it was the intention of the Right Hon.
Baronet that the Bill should come into operation before
Parliament met again.
Sir JAMES GRAHAM said it was his intention.
as he had before stated in answer to a similar
question to bring before the House a Bill authorising
her Majesty to grant a now charter to the College of
Physicians. It was also his intention to advise the
granting of a new charter to the College of Surgeons,
and these two charters would certainly be in operation
before the next meeting of Parliament.
Lord SANDON wished to know if power would be
given under these charters to grant degrees ?

Sir J. GRAHAM said it was not intended that such
authority should be given, because that authority was
not wanted.

Lord J. RUSSELL wished to know what change
would be made in the present charter ?
Sir J. GRAHAM would be prepared to state to the
House the details when he introduced the Bill.

Mr. EWART would ask the Right Hon. Gentleman
whether the charter proposed would exempt the institu-
tion from the effect of the Medical Reform Bill, and
whether they would be exempt from the effects of the
Medical Reform Bill to be introduced next session.

Sir JAMES GRAHAM said be must give the same
answer as to the Noble Lord. He should move for leave
to bring in the Bill, and then it would be his duty to
state to the House, what the precise provisions of the
Bill were.
Mr. O'CONNELL wished to know if the charter would
affect the College of Physicians in Ireland.

Sir J. GRAHAM' answer was inaudible in the
gallery. . _

NEWCASTLE ELECTION.

The SPEAKER informed the House that the recog-
nizances on the petition against the return of Mr.
Colquhoun were unobjectionable.
BRIBERY AT ELECTIONS (No. 2) BILL.
On Lord 3. RUSSELL stating his intention of post-
poning till Thursday next, his motion for the appoint-
ment of a Select Committee on this Bill.

Mr. COCHRANE rose to explain something which he
had said the other evening whilst speaking on the sub-
ject of the Bridport Election. He had never said that
he thought these matters should go before a Committee
at all. The facts were these : when Mr. War-
burton presented his petition to the House, he (Mr.
Cochrane) did beg that an early day might be
named, that he might have an opportunity of refuting
that petition, which he did. Then, when the Right Hon.
Baronet had agreed that that petition was to be referred
to a Committee, and the question came to be whether it
should go before Mr. Roebuck's or another Committee,
he (Mr. Cochrane) said, to save the time of the House,.
he thought it would be preferable that it should go be-
fore Mr. Roebuck's Committee, but he never did
say that it should be referred to a Committee at
all. He never did entertain the opinion that cases
of bribery and corruption should go before a Committee,
he thought rather that the matter should be fully dis-
cussed in that House. He thought, too, after the avowal
of the Hon. Memb. r for Finsbury, that he had spent
between 30,000/. and 40,000/. at Reading, he could not
find much fault with him (Mr. Cochrane) if he admitted
that he had been guilty of bribery and compromise.—.
(Cries of Oh, oh," and laughter.) One thing
hz would say, however, which was this, . that in
appearing before the Committee, he (Mr. Cochrane)
should give up no documents whatever, and ehould
answer no questions but such as he thought fit. He
congratulated the House upon one subject, and that was
the perfect harmony which resulted from that Commit-
tee. The Hon. Member for Bath's kindness and courtesy
were really quite astonishing ; and he thought the Hon.
Member's character hitherto must have been very extra-
ordinary, when Honourable Members felt it necessary
to praise him so highly because he bad not in-
sulted them.—(Hear, and a laugh.) The proceedings
of the Committee were now closed, at least the Hon.
Member for Bath had adjourned his Committee till
Thursday, and he announced his intention of conducting
it in future on a different system. What that system
would b€, he (Mr. Cochrane) did not know. His opinion
was that justice could never be obtained by unjust means,
and that an illegal means was always ax unjust one. He
begged to say that he should appear before the Commit-
tee, but that he should only answer what questions he
thought fit.

Mr. W. PATTEN was understood to say, that in the
absence of the Member for Bath he supposed he was safe
in saying that he should withdraw the motion.

POOR LAW BILL.

Captain PECHELL stated that reports were afloat
all over the country that it was the intention of
Government not to proceed with this Bill as it now
stood. He wished to know from the Right Hon. Baronet,
the Secretary of State for the Home Department,
whether it was the intention of the Goverment to pro-
ceed with the Bill as it now stood ?
Sir JAMES GRAHAM said he had not heard the
reports to which the Hon. Member referred ; like many
other reports, it was entirely unfounded.
MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS.

Messengers from the Lords appeared at the table with
certain Bills from the House of Lords.

COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY-ADJOURNED
DEBATE.

Sir R. PEEL said he should propose that on to-mor-
row the House should resolve itself into a Committee of
Supply, and that it should have precedence of the othar
Orders. • He hoped that would answer the object of the
. Hon. Member, as they could then proceed with the ad-
journed debate on his Motion.
• Mr: WALLACE was perfectly satisfied. He had no
individual wish on the subject, and the House might act
as it thought proper.
LONDON BRIDGE APPROACHES BILL.

On the motion of the Earl of LINCOLN this Bill was
postponed till to-morrow.
CHARITABLE PAWN OFFICES (IRELAND)

BILL'. • .
Mr. GREENE brought up the Report on this Bill.
MINES AND COLLIERIES BILL.

Lord ASHLEY said, he hoped the Hon. Member for
Bolton, who was the only person now in the way of this
-Bill, would allow it to proceed. If it was allowed to go
over this night, he did not know when he might be able
to bring it forward. He therefore earnes.ly and seriously
put it to the Hon. Member whether he would be kind
enough to allow the Bill to go through its last stage ?
Mr. AINSWORTH was s wry he could not agree to
the request of the Noble Lord. He had prepared the
clause of which he had given notice, and he could not
let the Bill pass without moving it.
Mr. LAMBTON thought if the House agreed on
such a course the Bill might be proceeded with.
Lord HOWICK thought the Bill would be better dis-
cussed now than at a late hour of the night.
After some conversation Mr. AINSWORTH, in de-
ference to the general feeling of the House, withdrew his
objection, the third reading being a dropped order, to be
taken after the other Orders of the Day were disposed of.

BIIIBERY AT ELECTIONS BILL.
Lord J. RUSSELL moved that the following Mem-
bers from the Select Committee on Bribery at Elections:
Lord J. Russell, Sir R. Peel, Viscount Sandon, Mr. Solicitor
General, Mr. Solicitor General for Ireland, Sir Thomas
Wilde, Sir George Grey, The.siger, Mr. Darby,
Mr. Charles Wood, Mr. Thomas buncombe, Mr. Ma-
caulay, Sir Robert Harry Inglis, Mr. Aglionby, and
Sir Thomai Fremantle.—Agreed to.
COLONIAL PASSENGERS BILL.
Lord STANLEY moved the third reading of the Co-
lonial Passengers Bill.
Mr HAWES was surprised that the Noble Lord
should have moved the third reading of this Bill, as he
had been promised by the Noble Lord that he should
have ample notice of his doing so.
Lord STANLEY said the Bill had remained unop-
posed for siv months, except by the Hon. Member, and
that opposition was only on one clause of the Bill. I❑
consequence of there not having been a House yester-
day, and of having but a day at this advanced period of
the Session, it was impossible he could defer it longer.

Mr. HAWES complained that, notwithstanding his
promise, the Noble Lord had not given himmotice ; he
was mistaken in supposing that he was the only Sienber
opposed to it ; there were several objected to, the clause,
which, moreover, was the very one.the Noble Lord him-
opposed last year.
• After some • remarks from Mr. 0. Smith, Mr.
O'Connell, and Lord J. Russell,

Lord STANLEY postponed the third reading-iill to-
morrow (Wednesday...) ..I_______

BUILDINGS'] EGISTRATION BILL.

The Housp went into Committee on the Buildings
Regulations Bill (No. 2. Bill.)
MANCHESTER, BIRMINGHAM, AND BOLTON

, POLICE BILL.
Sir J. ofartni posponed the second reading of the
Manchester, Birmingham, and Bolton Police Bill, till
Thursday.
DEAN FOREST ECCLESIASTIC AL BILL.

On the motion for the further consideration of the
Dean Forest Ecclesiastical Bill,
Mr. HUME rose and said that he thought that the
present was an improper time, whei. there was
a deficiency 01.2,500,00001. in the Revenue, fur endow-
ing Churches out of the public money, as was proposed
in the measure before the House. lie considered that
all money derived from the Crown lands should be ap-
propriated to the public service. ; and the present
would be a vote of the public money as much as
if it were taken from the Customs or the Excise.
These were the grounds of his opposition. He protested
against this improper application of the public
money. He was not insensible to the importance of
providing public instruction, but he protested against
applying to one sect that which belonged to all sects
and all classes. The Hon. Member concluded by moving
the resolutions.
Sir J. EASTHOPE seconded the motion.

On the question beint, put,
The Earl of LINCOLN said that the resolutions pro-
posed by the Hon. Gentleman almost equalled the length
of his speech. The House would not expect him to go over
those topics which had already been discussed at length.
The first six of the resolutions, which the Hon. Gentle-
man intended as facts, were not such ; neither was the
measure proposed a new one. He contended that the
objects of the Bill had been well supported by private
munificence.

Mr. WILLIAMS opposed the Bill as impolitic and
ill-timed ; he regretted that such* a Bill should have
been brought forward at a period of such distress as the
present.