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T lIE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY EVENING, MAY 1845.

This witness was cross .examined by Mr. TALBOT, but nothing
of any interest was elicited.
Sir John Richardson was then called—He said he was a consi-
derable landed proprietor in the neighbourhood of Perth, and
knew the place called the South Inch very well. He was of
opinion that in a salutary point of view the inhabitants would be
great sufferers, as the erection of a station and line of railway along
the southern aide of the Inch would prevent the free
influx of the sea air to the western side, or it would
arrive in a smoke-impregnated condition, and unfit for respira-
tion. The opinion of the Perth people was not generally in favour
of the line.

After a short cross-examination of this witness by Mr. TALBOT,

Mr. Spottiswoode was called, who said that thirty.five acres of
ground, on the western side of the town, had been let out for
railway purposes.

With this witness Mr. Clark closed his case.
The decision of the Committee is deferred till the close of the
who'e business before them.

Sir Thomas Phillips, Mr. Austin, and Mr. M`Neil appeared to
oppose on behalf of the Edinburgh and Glasgow (Branch to Stirling)
Railway. . ..

Mr. flibbs was examined as to the traffic along the branch line
to Stirling. At present there existed no direct communication
either for goods or pa sengers between Stirling and Carlisle; the
traffic between these places was very considerable, and would, in
his opinion, afford a sufficient remuneration on the outlay of
capital expended in making a railway. The traffic between Perth
and Stirling was comparatively small.

Mr. Dick, an extensive woolen.draper, then gave evidence as
to the increasing woollen trade of Stirling, and instanced the num-
ber of hands employed, and quantity of goods manufactured, as
proofs of its extent.

ANTI-3IAYNOOTH CONFERENCE.
The meeting held at the Crown and Anchor Tavern, to protest
against the Maynooth grant, which we briefly noticed yesterday,
was composed of persons delegated by congregations of various re-
ligious denominations throughout the empire, the great majority
being from Dissenting bodies.
At ten o'clock Sir Culling Eardley Smith was called to the
chair.

The CHAIRMAN suggested that the proceedings should be opened
with a prayer, such as should be appropriate to the very impor-
tant and extraordinary circumstances under which they had as-
sembled.
The Rev. Dr. HOLLOWAY, in accordance with the desire of the
Chairman, offered up a prayer, in which he was joined by the
meeting.
The prayer having concluded,
The CHAIRMAN again rose and said, that they had met on that
occasion to discharge their duties as Christians, and to avail them-
selves of their rights as Englishmen.—(Hear, hear.) In his
opinion a great insult had been offered to that religion which, he
thanked God, notwithstanding minor differences, they all held in
common.—(Cheers.) They had reason to be grateful that they
lived in a land of freedom, where they could meet together and
devise measures for attaining the object they had in view, or failing
in that, to consider what remedy they would resort to;
to that object —the devising of plans by which the en-
dowment of Popery might be prevented—the proceedings
of that day would be mainly devoted.—(Cheers.) It was not
necessary for them to go at length into the question itself,
upon which they were all agreed.—(Cheers.) They had less
to do with the arguments in favour of Maynooth than with the
' duties which devolved upon them in consequence of the decisions
r which had recently been arrived at in the House of Commons.—
(Hear, hear.) He felt that it would be impossible to avoid alto-
gether any discussion of the question itself, which involved • °pies
of very great delicacy ; but it was important that they should
stand a united phalanx together. In contending against the
endowment of Popery, in the name of their common Saviour, he
hoped that they would not, on this occasion, go into the question
of religious establishments, as on this occasion neither the church-
man nor the advocate of the voluntary system could be suspected
of departing from his own religious or conscientious grounds in
opposing the: endowment of Maynooth.—(Hear.) The question
which they had now to consider was_whether their country was to
be dishonoured by the recognition of Popery ?—(Cheers)—and to
that question he should beg them to confine themselves. Sir Robert
Peel stated that, in consequence of certain circulars which had been
sent frOm London to the country, he did not regard the opposition
which had been expressed to this subject of as much importance
as he might under other circnmstances, and it was, therefore,
the more necessary for them to meet on that day—(Cheers)—in
order that they might remove all doubts from the Premier's mind
with regard to this question. The Chairman then called the
attention of the meeting to the following correspondence between
the Anti-Maynooth Committee and the Premier :
" Central Anti-Maynooth Committee.
" Sir Culling Eardley Smith presents his compliments to Sir
Robert Peel, and begs, at the request of this Committee, to state
that deputations from various parts of the country on the subject
of the endowment of Maynooth are expected to arrive in London
on Wednesday next. Some members of the deputation will be
glad to have the honour of an interview with Sir Robert Peel on
Thursday, if that day should be convenient, in which case Sir C.
Smith would be obliged by Sir Robert fixing an hour when it will
be in his power to receive them.
" The Right Hon. Sir R. Peel."

" Whitehall, April 29, 1845.

" Sir R. Peel presents his compliments to Sir C. E Smith, and
in reply to his note of yesterday, begs to decline receiving the
parties referred to by Sir Culling Eardley Smith, who wish for an
interview with Sir Robert Peel on the subject of the endowment of
Maynooth. . _ .

"That subject has undergone the consideration of the House
of Commons during ten nights of debate, and Sir R. Peel feels it
to be wholly out of his power, consistently with the proper discharge
of the official duties he has to perform, to discuss in personal con-
ference out of Parliament the merits of measures of general public,
not especially affecting particular or local interests."—Upon that
letter he would make no comment, for it would be for the meeting
to deal with it as it thought fit.—(Hear, hear.) If, however, as
was the case, Sir R. Peel received a deputation on the subject when
the measure was in its infancy, a fortiori, he ought to receive
one now, when it was more advaiseed and when the public mind
was more opposed to it than ever. In consequence of the letter
which he had read, the Committee had on that morning come to
the following resolution :—" Resolved—That it is matter of the
deepest regret and surprise that Sir R. Peel has not deemed it con-
sistent with his public duty to receive a deputation of gentlemen
who would have been able to prove to him the fact that the whole
of the country, as well as the metropolis, are most decidedly
against the endowment of Maynooth ; and that this resolution be
respectfully transmitted to Sir R. Peel."
The C4ItIRVAN having read the resolution, concluded by ex-
pressing his desire to hear the opinions of the deputations from the
various pArts of the country.
The Rey. Messrs. Robertson and Griffiths, of Edinburgh, and
Dr. Cullen, of Leith, severally s,ddressed the meeting, and stated
that the most perfect unanimity of opinion existed amongst all the
denominations of Protestants in Edinburgh and Leith, as regarded
the propriety of opposing the grant to May nooth.
Archdeacon Macee,l of Dublin, said that Churchmen and Dis.
centers were all opposed to the grant in Ireland.
The Rev. H. STOWELL, from Manchester, felt that they ought
to thank God for the unanimity which prevailed amongst them.
Sir Robert Peel thought Protestantism was a negation, but he
would find that it was a stern affirmative—(Cheers)—and he would
find at the next general election how much opposed the English
people were to concessions to Popery. If all Protestants did not
belong to the same corps, it was quite clear, from their unanimity
on this point, that they fought in the same army, and that the
same glorious banner waved over their heads, having on the one
sine, " The Gospel of Christ," and on the other, "No peace
with Anti-Christ."—(Loud cheers.) There was a large party in
Manchester devoted to Mammon, and they praised Sir Robert
Peel for his commercial policy, although they admitted that he had
deceived them in religious matters, but for his part he would prefer
a man of humble mind and principled heart to a man, however
mighty his mind was, if he was a man without principle. He was
happy to inform the meeting that a memorial was in course of sig-
nature at Manchester, which was addressed to the Queen, and which
already contained 20,000 signatures, praying her Majesty to dis.
solve Parliament, and try the feeling of the country on the question
before she put her hansi and seal to the measure for endowing
Maynooth, a Bill which would virtually destroy the right of the
House of Brunswick to the Throne, and would virtually open the
door for the representative of the House of Stuart, if it had a re-
presentative living.—(Loud cheers.)
The Rev. Dr. HAGLEY said he came for the purpose of lending
his aid to oppose the grant, and he was nut desirous, in doing so,
to wound the feelings of any class of persons.

. ... _
Mr. BAINES, formerly M.P. for Leeds, next addressed the meet.
iog. He said he recently had thepteasure of presiding at a meeting
held in Leeds to consider this question. It was so numerous a
meeting that its numbers were only restrained by the size of the
largest building which they could command in Leeds.—(Cheers.)
At the meeting to which he alluded a petition was adopted, pray-
ing Parliament not to agree to the measure, and out of an adult
usuragnedd decided opposition to the
male population of 25,000 in Leeds, the petition was signed by no
on the meeting the pro.
less than 16,000 persons.
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obrrt Peel to endow Popery in this country.—(Loud cheers.)
e Rev, Dr. MARSII, of Leamington, said that he saw in the
fleeting before him no Protestant or Dissenter, but a tessellated
pavement of Protestant heads, and he was confident that every one
of those heads presided over a true Protestant heart. As a true
Briton he was a lover of civil liberty; and as a Christian he
was a lover of religious liberty, and he attended at that
meeting to maintain those principles. What was Protestantism ?
It was the religion which Jesus Christ propagated on earth. Did
Protestantism want visibility ? The meeting which he saw around
him afforded the best and most perfect answer to that question ?
(Cheers.) Did Protestantism want antiquity? What were the
Patriarchs? They were Protestants.—(Cheers.) What were
the Apostles ? They were Protestants. What were the Pro-
phets ? They were Protestants ; they all protested against error.
—(Cheers.) They had this at their side—visibility and antiquity.
—(Cheers.) He should have brought his daughter, who accom-
panied him, to that meeting, if ladies were allowed to be present.—
(Hear.) And he only regretted that they were not. The Rev.
Gentleman concluded with a lengthened prayer to the God of peace
and charity to bless their exertions.
The Rev. Mr. Bickersteth, of Watton, 'Arr. S. C. Hall, of New-
castle-upon-Tyne, Mr. Ralph Wilson, of Newcastle, the Rev. Dr.
Raffles, as a Protestant Dissenter from Liverpool, Mr. Wee
Steevens, from Newport, in Wales, representing the Dissenters of
various denominations in that town, and the Rev. Mr. Steevens, of
Swansea, stated the co-operation of their constituents to oppose
the grant.
Mr. Jones, c f Merthyr TYdvil, and Mr. Fowkes, a magistrate of
Montgomeryshire, spoke to the same effect ; after which the meet-
ing (at three o'clock) adjourned to six o'clock in the evening.
The evening sitting was resumed at six o'clock, when Sir C. E.
Smith took the chair.
Prayers having been read by the Rev. C. Prest, and some routine
business disposed of,
The CHAIRMAN asked whether any Dissenters from Leicester
were present ?
The Rev. Mr. MENsON, of Leicester, said that there was no de-
putation from Leicester, but he held in his hand a letter from the
Dissenters of that place, expressing the reasons why they did not
deem it right to join the Conference; and this letter he would beg
to lead.
The Rev. Gentleman's proposition, however, met with a general
negative on the part of the meeting, it being contended that such a
letter, with its reasons, was foreign to the purpose of the assembly,
which was to hear the sentiments of deputations from various parts
of the country favourable to the object of the Conference. After
some discussion,
The CHAIRMAN decided it to be the sense of the meeting that
the letter was inadmissible, and that as there was no deputation
from Leicester, they would proceed to the next name on his list—
Birmingham.
The Rev. Mr. ROBERTS, Dissenting minister, of Birmingham,
said that, while the religious bodies whom, in the unavoidable
absence of the Rev. Angell James, he represented, were to the
full anxious to preserve and assist the civil and religious liberties
of their Roman Catholic brethren, their attachment to the great
principles of the Reformation united them, whatever their minor
differences amongst themselves, in strenuous opposition to a measure
which tended to overthrow the Reformation and the Protestant
throne of these realms.—(Hear, hear.) This feeling alike per-
vaded the great meeting of 6,000 persons which assembled at
Birmingham, composed of men of all political and religious opinions,
and the smaller meetings of the various congregations which had
taken place there.
The meeting was afterwards briefly addressed by numerous
deputies from different parts of the country, when
Dr. MASSES moved a resolution to the effect that the deputa-
tions should wait upon the various members for their cities,
boroughs, and counties, and represent the state of public feeling on
the subject to them, and call upon them to opposejhe further
progress of the measure.
The resolution was then carried unanimously.
Mr. E. BAINES, jun., of Leeds, next moved a resolution con-
demnatory of the conduct of Sir Robert Peel in refusing to receive
the deputations on this subject.
The resolution was carried unanimously.
The Rev. MACDONNELL, of the Scottish Free Church, then
moved a resolution pledging the conference Itself to contribute, and
to use its best exertions, each deputation in its own locality, to
induce others to contribute funds for the carrying on of the
struggle in which it was engaged.—Carried unanimously.
The Rev. Dr. BLACKBURN moved that, in the event of the sill
passing, it would be the duty of the people to address the Queen
to dissolve the present Parliament —Agreed to unanimously.
The Rer. W. Ellis, from the Pottery districts; Rev. Macke.
Tony, from Belfast ; Rev. Alexander, of Norwich ; Rev.
Harding, of Grantham; Rev. Paddon, of High Wycombe;
Rev. Cottle, of Taunton ; Rev. Moore and Rev. Berry,
of Truro, successively addressed the meeting, and each, on the
part of congregations of various denominations in' the respecti
localities, zealously concurred in the object of the conference.
The Rev. J. T. ROBINSON, Rector of St. Andrew's, Holborn, in
giving similar testimony on the part of his parishioners, stated
that the charge made by the Archdeacon of London, at the visita-
tion on Tuesday, was emphatically and solely directed against the
proposition of the Government; and further, that an address to
the Archbishop of Canterbers was in pteccssful progress among the
clergy of London, calling upon his Grace and the bench of Bishops
to oppose the Bill.
The CHAIRMAN stated that he had reason to believe that the
Right Reverend Bench would make a strong stand against the
measure; the Bishops of Exeter, Lincoln, Chester, Winchester,

Ripon, and Cashel, had already most distinctly declared against it.
The Rev. Arrwoon, from Newark, said that such was the
feeling in the locality he represented against the measure, that their
right honourable misrepresentative need not trouble himself to
come down among them again to solicit their votes, for he most
assuredly would not obtain them.
The meeting adjourned at ten o'clock.

IRELAND.
THE QUEEN'S VISIT.

.
DUBLIN, APRIL 29.—A special meeting of the corporation was
held this day in the City Assembly-house. The Right Hon. the
Lord Mayor presided.

Alderman O'BitEN said he felt peculiar pleasure in moving that
a Committee should be appointed to prepare an address to the
Queen, requesting her Atijesty would be graciously pleased to visit
`her faithful Irish subjects at her earliest convenience.

A lderman Sir J. POWER, Bart., seconded the motion.
Mr. HUDSON moved an amendment, that the consideration of
the subject should be postponed for a month. In proposing the
amendment, Mr. Hudson said, that the unanimity which had ex-
isted on the subject of addressing her Majesty had been interrupted
by recent circumstances, to which he would refer. He was sur-
prised at finding in the morning papers a report of a speech, deli.
vered by Mr. O'Connell, in which the Learned Alderman declared
that the repeal cause should be in no wise abated on the arrival of
her Majesty ; and if that course were followed, he (Mr. Hudsoi.)
could not anticipate anything but dissension and strife.
Alderman KINAHAN seconded the amendment.

Mr. O'CONNELL said, if there were anything criminal in the
course complained of by Mr. Hudson, it was solely attributable to
him, and he would vindicate himself. Since he last had the honour
of speaking on the subject, circumstances had occurred which altered
his opinion with regard to the course which he would pursue. The
English newspapers conveyed intelligence of a nature that was not
to be misunderstood. Ireland had been set at defiance. The Eng-
lish people were determined to risk everything rather than entertain
the subject of the repeal of the union ; and if her Majesty would
visit her Irish subjects, and that in compliment to her they would
suspend their exertions for repeal, it would be construed into a re-
linquishment of the question, to which he would never consent.
He would not be a party to delusion by any Ministry, whether
Whig or Tory. No one was bound by any act of his. He would
engage to fulfil his -promise by giving the toast of her Majesty's
Ministers. He would contribute his share of whatever expense
would be necessary to carry cut the 'object; but he would refrain
from voting on the question, on one side or the other.
The amendment having been put and negatived, the origina
motion was carried, and a Committee appointed.

LLOYD'S SHIPPING.
THE CADIZ PACKET, OF NEWCASTLE.

An official document from the Admiralty, relating to
the mysterious disappearance of a boat's crew belonging
to the above vessel, has been received at Lloyd's. "It
appears that the schooner sailed from Gibraltar for the
northern coast of Brazil, in search of guano, last year,
and on-Thursday, the sth of December last, the schooner
lying off the island of Fernando do Monorka, William
Parriter, the captain's clerk, Robert Cannon, the carpen-
ter, and George Elliott and John Gibbons, seamen be-
longing to the vessel, left in one of the boats for the
purpose of going ashore. They landed, were seen to re-
embark, and hoist a sail for the purpose of returning to
the schooner, she being then in sight from the shore,
tacking to and fro. The schooner burnt lights the whole
of the night, and next day remained tacking off and on,
when they set sail and anchored in Pernambuco Roads
on the 9th of the same month. Before leaving the island
the crew were sworn before the Governor regarding the
facts of the disappearance of the men, and again at Per-
nambuco,,before the British Vice-Consul, Mr. Joshua
Goring. The schooner, after shipping a cargo of sugar
at Pernambuco, sailed, and has arrived at Cadiz, where
she is discharging her cargo."

LOSS OF THE SKYLARK.
PORTSMOUTH,
WEDNESDAY.

.The following particulars relating to the wreck of her
Majesty's brig Skylark may be relied on as authentic,
being an extract from the private letter of an eye-
witness:—

"'The Skylark, 2, Lieutenant-Commander George
Morris (1823), sailed from Plymouth on Thursday,
April 24, with 68 supernumeraries on board for Ports-
mouth, which, together with her own crew, made about
110 men. She passed the Portland Lights on the morn-
ing of the 25th early : it soon after became very foggy.
At a few minutes after 10 o'clock, when the ship was
going about 4 knots, with topgallant sails set, site
struck ; attempts were immediately made to put her
about, but being between two ledges of rock she again
struck, and would not go about. Attempts were then
made to back her off, the hands were turned up, and
every precaution and exertion used ; all, however, was
ineffectual. About 11 o'clock, A.M., the'fog cleared off a
little, and the ship was found to be within hail of the
shore, and the people on board the brig could heat
voices from the cliffs calling to them that a boat was
coming to their assistance from the Coast-guard station.
One of the guns was then hove overboard, and an
anchor dropped with a halser to it, to lighten her and
haul her off; at this time the water started ; the hands
were immediately set to work at the pumps, and the
boats were got out, but the tide, being on the ebb, soon
left her with two fe t of water ender her bows and three-
quarters of a fathom in the channels ; aft there was
greater depth. She had run ashore on Coalpit Ledge,
near Kimberage, a short distance to the eastward of the
tower which stands on the eastward point of Yellow-
bay. There was not much wind bowing at tie time,
but a tremendous surf setting in shore. The coast-guard
boat above-named was rearing the brig under the
guidance of Lieutenant Smith, a hen the brig's second
gig (which had been got out to communicate with the
shore), in which, besides the boat's crew, was the com-
mander's son, a boy 11 years old, upset. Master Morris
sank sc veral times, and was on the point of sinking to
rise no more alive, wlgen one of the crew of the coast-
guard boat, named Crawley, swam out to him :..nd sup
ported him until Lieutenant, mith, of the Coast Guard,
at the imminent risk of his own lire, rushed in, and
saved them all, and returned to the bay with them. 'The
brig's cutter was then hoisted out, and filled with men,
after immense difficulty, who were safely landed on tilt
shore of the bay. Lieutenant Smith, having landed the
commander's son and the boat's crew, returned, and
went as near the brig as the breakers would admit, and
put one of his men in the Skylark's dingy,' who
directed two boys r. ho were in her to put her alongside
the lee quarter of the brig. They did so, and took
in six men, and put them on board the Coast-guard
boat ; but Lieutenant Smith, observing the awkward
nets of the boys in the dingy, put two mire of his met,
in her, who went to and from the stranded brig ii
a most dexterous and intrepid manner, bringing each
time as many of the brig's crew as the dingy could safely
hold, and placing them on board the coast-guard vessel,
until it was full, when it pulled away with them for the
bay. The tide having gone down, and' the surf decreased
in violence,-the dingy was enabled to land her men on
the ledge, which was but a stone's threw from the brig'
bows, until nearly all were landed. A boat, the Bee, of
Weymouth, then came alongside and took the rest o'
the crew and the master out. Commander Morris,
having the gout in one of his legs, and having used
almost superhuman exertions to save his ship, was
quite exhausted when the last boat went alongside ;
so far, indeed, was his strength prostrated, that h.
was incapable of getting into the boat to save him•
self, and was thrown overboard, and picked up by
the first gig. Lieutenant Smith hid returned iu the
meantime, and advised the officers to send the cutter off
to the wreck to endeavour to get some sails and spars
wherewith to make tents for the men, as the tower was
not large enough for them all to sleep in end- also to
save as much from the wreck as possible, as it
appeared most probable she would go entirely
to pieces when the tido flowed, and offered
to assist with his men and boat, which was
thankfully accepted. Accordingly, every exertion
was immediately used, and a great quantity of
the sails, spars, provisions, and some of the officers pro-
perty was got ashore. Commander Granby arrived from
Swanage-bay in his tender, the Gertrude, in the after-
part of the day (having received information by express
from Lieutenant Smith respecting the wreck of the Sky-
lark), and immediately took his boat to the brig and
rendered all the assistance ie his power. By 10 o'clock
at night, the wind still blowing fresh, the Gertrude had
a great quantity of stores, arms, and some of the officers'
goods on board, with which she got underweigh, and,
after considerable danger and difficulty, cleared the
ledges and safely got into Swanage Bay with them by
12 o'clock at night."
" On Saturday the brig still held together, although
the wind had amounted to a gale all Friday night.
" On Sunday part of the deck and several articles of
stores were washed ashore. _ _ .

"On Monday, the gale having continued with un-
abated violence during the whole of Saturday, the boats
put off and succeeded in bringing the yards and spars
ashore. This morning (Monday) Mr. Brown, the As-
sistant Master-Attendant of Portsmouth Dockyard, ar-
rived from Swanage Bay, in the Echo steamer, and in
the evening the supernumeraries brought by the Sky.
lark were sent to Swanage Bay and embarked on board
the Echo, for conveyance on board the flag- ship at Port,.
mouth, as they had been disgracing themselves in their
awful position by getting drunk and riotous in the adj a
cent iillage of Kimberage.

" On fuesday the bo—ats were engaged nearly all day,
the weather being comparatively calm, and succeeded in
saving some of the tanks and other stores.

" the officers and crew are still engaged in endeav :tir-
ing to save all possible, and will not leave the place until
the wreck has been cleared of everything of value.
" A ship got ashore on the same day as the Skylark,
near Portland—all hands perished ; another the same
day, near St. Alban's—crew not yet heard of."

CIIA.RING-CRoSS HOSPlTAL.—Yesterday, the dis-
tribution of prizes at this hospital took plade ; the Rev. Mr.
Bowers, Rector of Saint Paul's, Covent-garden, in the chair.
The meeting was held in the lecture-room of the institution,
which was filled with pupils and their friends. The Rev.
Chairman having stated the object of the meeting, and the
Professors in turn spoke in high turns, not only of the pro..
ficiency of their pupils, but of their general good conduet
and close attendance. The prizes were then awarded ;
the competitors having each previously enclosed a sealed
motto, accompanied with the title of the paper and name of
kw writer. These communications were broken up by the Rev.
Chairman in the presence of the meeting, and the names duly an-
nounced. The annual exhibition, value 151., was adjudicated to
Joteph Fayrer, for the best essay on the Materia Medica ; in
chemistra, to J. H. Buckstone ; in anatomy, to —__— M'Creal
and Philip Ilarber ; in the junior class of anatomy, to Henry
Lamden and Joseph Fayrer ; midwifery, Henry Watts, Frederick
Nichol!, and Thomas Flaherty; physiology, Joseph Fayrer;
Medicine—P. Harper, Thomas M'Creal, and Henry Watts; Sur.
gery—Nicholl, Harper, M'Creal, and Fayrer. Dr. Golding ad_
dressed the meeting en the unwearied diligence and excellent con-
duct of the students on the establishment ; they all appeared to
know that, without study, they could not practice with success in
after life. The Charing-cross Hospital had one distinguishing fea-
ture, which ought to recommend it to the notice of the philan-
thropist, namely, that young gentlemen of slender means, but
of good character, and education snfficient to enable them to
pass the rigid examination appointed by the hospital authorities,
;eight have their medical ctlucat;on gcztia, This ,vas ,Jarticularly
applicable to the sons of clergymen, oihcers of the army and
&c. Dr. Golding then awarded certificates of good behaviour to
various of the students. Thanks were voted to the chairman, and
the meeting separated—those visitors who choose being willingly
conducted over the wargi of the hospital.

IM','ERIAL PA L AMEI4? T.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, May 1.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour.
NEW MEMBER.

Mr. BA RIMY, who was introduced by Lord Hotham and Mr.
Thomas Baring, took the oaths and his seat for the borough of
Leominster, in the room of Mr. Greenaway.

RAILWAYS.

Dr. BOWRING presented a petition from Lord Chester-
field against the Sydenham Railway.
Mr. 11. BERKELEY presented petitions against the Bir-
mingham and Gloucester Railway from the Berkeley Canal
Navigation Company.
Mr. FERRAN!) presented a petition from a Mr. Horne
against the Leeds nd Think Railway.
Mr. M. IIIILNES presented petitions against the London
and York Railway.
Mr. ORDE presented a petition praying to be heard by
counsel against the West Cornwall Railway Bill
COMPANIES CLAUSES CONSOLIDATION BILL, &c.
Sir G. CLERK, in the absence of Lord Granville Somerset,
moved that the amendments made by the Lords in the Com-
panies Clauses, the Railway Clauses Consolidation Bill, and the
Lands Clauses Consolidation Bill, be agreed to.
The motion was, after a question asked by Mr. Labouchere,
and the reply, both of which were inaudible, agreed to.
The LORD -ADVOCATE moved that the amendments
made by the House of Lords in the Companies Clauses Conso-
lidation (Scotland) Bill, the Railway Clauses Consolidation
(Scotland) Bill, and the Land Clauses Consolidation (Scot.
land) Bill, be agreed to.
Mr. LABOUCIIERE wished to call the attention of the
House to one of the clauses in the second of those Bills, a
clause which had been introduced covertly and surreptitiously,
and in such a manner as to preclude this House from any dis-
cussion in the matter, and when he (ilr. Labouchere) put a
question to the Noble Lord (Granville Somerset) upon the
subject, his answer was of a twofold character. He said, first,
that all the Scotch Members were agreed as to the propriety of
. .

the. clause He (Mr. Labouchere)-denied this. *There 1;119,
he knew, a very great deal of difference of opinion among the
Scotch Members upon the subject. The other part of the
Noble Lord's answer was, that the clause was precisely similar
to clauses in every railway Bill that had passed that
House. He (Mr. Labouchere) asserted that this was as great
an error as the other. The turnpike-roads in Scotland were
not made in the same manner as in England. The manner in
Scotland was to borrow the money required for its construc-
tion from a bank on the security of the tolls on that road.
The proprietors on that road also gave a personal security for
the repayment of the loan, and it was natural that they should
do so, as such roads passing by or through their estates would
benefit them. The object of the clause now introduced was
to enact that, in the event of these tolls failing, the proprietors
should not be held accountable as regarded their guarantee.
The import of the clause was, that in every railway Bill, in case
the railway company and the landed propietors do not agree as
to the amount of compensation for the injury done to turnpike
tolls, the absolute decision of what the sum of money
should be shall be left to one individual, and that in-
dividual shall be the sheriff of the county. In many instances
they were landed proprietors in the counties for which they
were sheriffs, and consequently they would be biassed in their
decision. His Scotch friends, no doubt, who represented the
Lowlands thought it a hard thing that their property should be
invaded by railroads, but the Members who represented the
Highlands bad quite a different way of viewing the question :
they were very much against the clause. They were by that
means giving power to the sheriffs, without the possibility of
appeal. He was sure that the house would not sanction this
clause if they had an opportunity of considering it.
The LORD ADVOCATE said that the Right Hon. Gen-.
tleman laboured under a mistake. What he (the Lord Advocate)
meant was, that when the clause passed none of the Scotch

Members present objected to h. He had not had the
opinions of all the Scotch Members en the matter.
In most of the Scotch Railway Bills the principle of this clause
had been recognised. The clause did not mention any sum as
compensation ; the whole question was left to the sheriff. He
could scarcely conceive a better ar`.•iter than the sheriff, as he
as a lawyer, was an independent person, and had no local in-
terest.
Air. FORBES said this clause had been approved of by most
of the Scotch Members.

Mr. RUTHERFORD said that the present clause was a very
important one—one of the most important that could be intro..
(limed. He was not aware of the particular circumstances under
which it was introduced, but it was unfortunate that
a clause of such importance should be introduced without no-
tice, or without even being printed.—( Hear, hear.) A clause
of such importance should not be introduced in that way.—
( Hear.) The Lord Advocate was right in saying that in some
railway, Bills this principle of compensation had been adopted
in Scotland, but not in all cases. In a great many cases, such
as the Glasgow and Kilmarnock, the Ulasgom and Ayr, and
the Glasgow and Edinburgh, that principle was not recognised.
It was decreed by this clause that in every case where any injury
was likely to arise to the turnpike-roads, that compensation
should be made to the Road Commissioners, but by the clause
which had been introduced into this Bill it appeared that when-
ever any alteration was to be made likely to involve any extraor-
dinary expenditure that the compensation was to be made
by the Railroad Company, and if any dispute were to arise, that
then the decision should be left to the sheriff, but the clause
w..s so framed that there was litigation in every line of it. The
sheriff was, probably, a very honourable man, but it was too
much for a decision of this sort to be left to any
single individual, and in the case of this road to Staines there
was hardly any option left to the Cmnmissioners. And what
was to be done with this money? It was not to be paid into
the court of that officer, but some of his most impor-
tant functions were superseded, and he was appointed

to a duty which vas quite foreign to his— office,
and which he could not satisfactorily perform. A

- •
most important principle Ind been ihtrodneed into the Bill,
and one, be it remembered, which Parliament now, for the

first time, recognised—that whenever toll keepers' trusts were
diminished they would have claim for compensation against the
Railway Company. He likewise complained of the manner in
which the clause had been introduced, although it was the most
important in the whole Bill.
Mr. CUMMING BRUCE said it seemed to him that the
House was indulging in a most irregular discussion. It was
now too late to eliscu,s the merits of the clause which had been
sanctioned by both Houses of Parliament. With respect to the
authority vested in the sheriff, it should be recollected that that
officer had only to decide in cases of personal liability. Since
this clause ►va; passed he had received numerous communi-
cation from Scotland espressing entire Concurrence in the

clause.
Mr. L ABOUC HERE asked the Lord A dvocatito engage on
the part of the Government to introduce a short Bill either to
repeal or amend this clause. If the Lord Advocate would not
give such a promise, he (Mr. Labouehere) should feel it to be
his dut3 to move that the Lords' amendments be taken into
consideration.
Mr. HUME said the surreptitious manner in which this
clause had been introduced into the Bill had neither been ex-
plained by the. Lord Advocate, nor by the Honourable
Member who had lately resumed his seat. If a clause
so important as to give to the sheriff of the county
the power of finding against any railway without appeal—if the
principle was found to be good for Scotland, why not extend it
to England also ?—( Hear.) But turnpike trusts were not the
only companies affected by railways. Canals were as much in-
jured as turnpikes. He submitted, therefore, that this Bill ought
to be withdrawn altogether and a new one brought in. They
could not strike out the clause, and there remained therefore
only the other course. Under these circumstances, he should
move that these amendments be taken into consideration that
day six months.—( Hear, hear.)
Lord EBRINGTON had already unsuccessfully called the
attention of the House to the hardships under which the
trustees of the turnpike roads in England were labouring; but
he was glad to perceive that the turupike roads in Scotland
seemed to be better represented in her Majesty's Government
than the turnpike roads of England. He thought that. this was
far from a creditable case en the part of her Majesty's Govern..
ment after the treatment of the English creditors and trustees
of turnpike roads. The English representatives would recol-
lect the facility with which this clause passed.
Mr. CHRISTOPHER said that the question for the House
to consider was, how they could have an uniform system esta-
blished throughout the whole country. Having passed
through that and the other House of Parliament Bills
for the consolidation of railways, if they introduced
a separate system with , regard to the Scotch rail-
ways, he thought the greatest possible hardship would be
felt by those who had turnpike-roads in England. If this
Bill passed he hoped that her Majesty's Government
would extend it to England.—( Hear, hear.) On the
other hand, he should feel himself called upon to support the
amendment of the Hon. Gentleman opposite. He maintained
that an uniform system ought to be extended equally to all
parts of the country, unless some special reason was shown to
the contrary.
Mr. H. DRUMMOND made some observations in opposi-
tion to the amendment, but they were totally inaudible in the
gallery.
Lord HOWICK said the case of England and the case of
Scotland were precisely the same. The case of Scotland was
this, as he understood:—The country gentlemen of Scotland
had advanced their money on the security of the turnpike trusts.
This was the case in the county with which he was
particularly connected. The western line of road in North-
umberland was defective, and the gentlemen of the country
were extremely anxious that it should be improved. Those
conntry gentlemen did not give their guarantee for the money,
but they d d the same thing—they lent their own, money
upon the security of the turnpike trusts, and the tolls to be
levied on the' improved road from Morpeth, through Wooller
into Scotland. That money so advanced remained un-
paid, and two railways had been projected from New-
castle to Berwick, and one or other of these would
certainly pass. In that case he doubted whether the
tolls on the improved turnpike road would even pay the expense
of collection. Those gentlemen had not petitioned the House
fur a clause giving them compensation, and yet if they
travelled a little way into Scotland, they would
find that compensation was to be given there to persons simi-
larly situated to themselves. He trusted this would not
be tolerated, and that this clause, which had been
smuggled into the Bill, would not be allowed to pass.
He thought that the fairer way would be, that the exemption
cf mail coaches, both in England and Scotland, should be got
rid of.
Mr. EDWARD ELLICE conceived that this was an unfair
clause to be introduced, for it was well known that though
sheriffs, to whom decisions should be left, might not be
actually resident in those counties respecting which they
were to make their decisions, yet tl:ey might at the same time
possess such interest in those counties as to make them
very desirous that good communication should be made
through those counties, when on the business of adjudicating
a compensation to the road trustees they might be
placed in the position of deciding in their own case.
He did not at the present time allude to the Sheriff
of Middlesex, but he thought that the case was such
as demanded the immediate attention of the House. The clause
had been jobbed into the Bill, and the only way was to threw
the Bill out to-night, and introduce another Bill without
the clause to-morrow. No obstruction would be offered to
the passage of the Bill through the House, and it might be
passed so speedily as to save all public inemvenience.
Me. AGLIONBY could not refrain from expressing his sur-
prise that none of her Majesty's Government had risen to ex-
press their opinions on this Bill. If it had been a private
Bill, he should not have bee.) surprised, because he knew it
was the custom for the Government to express no opinion; but
as this was their own Bill, and the House might have received
advantage from knowing the opinions of the Government, he
thought it was a great omission of duty that none of them hadfrisen.
The plan proposed was, that the present Bill be laid aside and
a new Bill brought in by the Government, but to this be toad
great objections. A principle had been introduced into this
Bill of a very important nature, and he could see no reason why
the same principle should nut be introduced into the English
and Scotch railway Bills.
Mr. PRI?s GLE said the Hon. Gentlemen opposite seemed
to have misunderstood the whole case; and as for the observation
of the Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Aglionby) that this
principle ought to be introduced into English and Irish railway
Bills it was altogether erroneous, for the roads in Scotland
were formed on a totally different principle from what they
were in this country or in Ireland. In Scotland the public
roads must be kept in repair out of the tolls.
The LORD ADVOCATE said that when he introduced
the clause he did not think there was any objection to;it, and
no person olnected to it. when it was proposed to the Com-
mittee. He did not desire that the clause should pass
without discussion—( Hear)—and as the House was of opinion
that it ought to be discussed, he would not press the clause.
(Hear, hear.) He thought the best course he could then

pursue would be to re-introti:4ee the Bill, with the Lords'
amendments, and leave the clause now under discussion for
future consideration.
Ile amendment was then put and carried without a division,
and leave was given to introduce the Bid without the clause.
Sir G. CLERK said that, in the absence of a Noble Friend,
lie had to move the notice which stood on the paper in
name, namely—" That every Committee on a railway
rovi Ml-
shall, with their report on- the Bill, state whether the p
sions of the Companies Clauses Consolidation Bill, the Railway
Clauses Consolidation Bill, and the Lands Clauses Consolidation
Bill, have been complied with ; and, if they shall not have
been complied with, state in what rerpects they have not
,Chat
complied with, and the reasons for such non-compliante to
.
the Committee on every Bill, other than a Railway Bill,
which the provisions of the Companies Clawes Consolidation
Bill, or the Lands Clauses Consolidation Bill, are appicabl!,
shall report to the House any non-compliance with such provin•
i-
sions, and shall state their reasons for permitting such nee-catii,
pliance." The clauses in those Bills had been passed by the-
House after mature consideration, and he should pre°
adoption of the standing order.
Sir G. GREY objected to the motion, and expressed a hope
that the standing order would not-be pressed.
Mr. HAWES thought that there would be considerabalt le dif-
ficy arisingNE supported from the adoption of these clauses.
Mr.GREE the adoption of the claufes, as 00'
would a tendenc to prevent litigation.
there Mr.
would PARKERbe
eno cyeonndc eoi pd e
tdh
et h
laboursat, as m aotft etrhse stoodco m
mat
tTesse he
would instance those of the London and York Compaq' ,_OlO
Sir G. CLERK agreed that it would be useful if care sin
be taken in future that all Railway Bills should state distinctly
all the deviations proposed.

The motion was then withdrawn.
WELSH RAILWAYS.
Mr. SPOONER brought up the report of the noilYthoeiaa
in-
and other Welsh railwa3s from the Committees appointee

vestigate the proofs of the preamble.
VAUXHALL: WATERWORKS. Vale
Mr. GREENE b:ought up the report on the Vaucon,
Waterworks Bill, which bad been referred back to the in the
mittee of Standing Orders. He stated that the omission d
that
Bill was merely one of accident ; and he, therefore, IF?" if
the Bill should be placed precisely in the same Conditiont.
the standing orders had been complied with in the firs
stance.

DIRECT NORTHERN RAILWAY. the
Mr. EDWARD ELLICE brought up the report 00
Direct Northern Railway from the Select Committee. taken
Sir THOMAS ESMONDE moved that the evidence
before the Committee on the Wexford Harbour Bill (Sessibooti
1543) be referred to the Committee on the Castle.
(Wexford) Docks Bill—Agreed to. our of
An Hose MEMBER presented eight petitions in tare
the Lincoln and Cambridge Railway Bill. of se the
Sir C. LEMON presented two petitions in favour
Cornwall Railway Bill.
RECAL OF LORD ELLENBOROUGH.,
Mr. ELLICE said he had been requested by til, jot.
Member for Montrose to postpone his motion to the 1960—uss of
It was for copies of the correspondence between the f Geo..
Directors of the East India Company and the Board of
trol, respecting the recal of Lord Ellenborough, there loort
General of India ; anda copy of the minute of —
Directors recalling him.
GOVERNMENT OF NEW ZEALAND. ego
Mr. CHARLES BULLER said, in answer to question
from Mr. Hope, that as he understood that the Voider
involved in the motion of which he had given entice 'l,a,a_sa, his
the consideration of the Government, he would withdraw
motion.
SCOTCH BANKG.
Mr. FOX MAULE wished to know when the sectlaod
ing of the Scotch and Irish Banks Bill would be taken 'said be
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
should give an answer on the morrow. Scrtteh
Mr. FOX MAULE said the second reading of
°e the t
W bought
Poor-law Bill was fixed for the first Wednesday. shit'
it would be better to postpone its consideration till after
Sunday. tt. e t"
The LORD-ADVOCATE was understood to 3.00
postponement. CH IN
ADMISSION TO THE UNIVERSITY Cie--
SCOTLAND. rodtleti°ll
Mr. RUTHERFORD, in rising to move the io.titier eesirshe
of a Bill to regulate the admission to the lay or se' tit she
the Universities of Scotland said, that in order to put this
House into possession of his intentions in bringing f°r the
measure, he should shortly call their attention to.iosetarss
Acts passed in 1709 and 1770 upon this subject. BY:iiipg SOY
it was enacted that no party should be capable of lbe oath
e
office in the Universities without having first tahenhe
of allegiance and acknowledging and subscribing " t a forage"
sion of Faith," and, moreover, that they should sign ;y
submitting themselves to the discipline of the Presbyte.tio,
that Act had never been enforc 'd in all the Univer.6Ttertities
never universally enforced in any. In some of the Ur 0, to th.e,
was enforced only in respect to the professors, 30" 0,,,,,bicb
office bearers. In the University of Edinburgh, ova thati
perhaps not the oldest, although certainly the large:, tavy he
which had produced the most distinguished men, the 1a lit l
long been in abeyance, and it had never been eortno $
against any lay professor. He now proposed to hrildnget her
for the purpose of declaring that hereafter it shotii,3oeoofesPeend
cessary for any lay or secular professor to siT3 uotoch b
or the formula. In that proposition he would etteee_ee ethic
the theological chairs, and apply the Act on
He
th°
theog ht
were devoted to literature and science. e~ •
whilst it was necessary that those ouths who were browioll
a 11:1 were
for the Established Church should be iustrocte
e„ who „
according to the rules of that Church, by tiesteache no
bound to those rules, it was not necessary that es.. oho ten.
strictions should be applied to those other teseo;ol, ejects
nothing to do with divinity. He should, if! oft ; bat bea°
stances, have thought it his duty to bring to tb whet, gas,
felt it the more imperative to do so irrem thea
many of his countrymen had seceded eeieete.---(`'neastere
tablished Church, and held it in "'" clearlyof
The Hon. Member, whom we "did not sprays rofeasers
stand, referred to some recent declaration of the P e eecer
the University of Edinburgh, 'signed by all, with e acce);
tine, to the effect that the restrictions ought to he `.-n„fosor;
with. In the University of Aberdeen a majority of Pr"
in all the colleges except (we believe) Mareschal Collega ae•
come to the same decision. In Glasgow a majority lija vet'
dared themselves in the same way. He asked thetnilif the
mission to introduce this Bill, leaving, as he had sale' 105/5
ecclesiastical professorships as they were. He asked thiesee A
in the name of a very large portion of his countryloenhe ee'
large portion of the teachers in the universities• nte to
treated the attention of the Right Hon. Baronet o?Pujoicei•
this matter, which was at this moment of critical ioteoo
He very well recollected that, in the course of the disc
et the
last year, the Right Honourable Barone.tionaeseble
head of the Government, and the other Right n k eGentleman beside him (Sir George Clerk), are:press;
occurrence which had then recently taken placer ee there ILA
their confidence that a re-action Was at hand. Bat
woo.;
been no re-action, and he stood there to say that thonelosieel
separated from the Established Church were wore °Thor bavii
than ever to establish themselves.—( Hear, hear') Scale
shown a desermination which no one who hoewire ay tee
would expect to subdue.—(Cheers.) They had eaacestaltee
churches—( Hear, hear)—and he would state one el:1004
,t
of singular importance. It was known that those wouweetthiti
to the Episcopal party in Scotland were amongst the,iee opbad
land-owners, and they had long been desirous of get!. joy
Episcopal college. But in the course of several year' 18,00°'.
been able to collect for that purpose n• more son by tb"'
Let the House contrast that with what had been d0e.....04e52
who had separated from the Established
of that her7g
hear.) It was proposed by some of the principals bard tit.' 0.
to found a college. But they thought it would be af baildlees,
to draw for that purpose upon the general fond leorgy. ;/02.
churches and manses, and for the payment of the e "ribs I,f et
asked, were there not enough amongst them tosubsecribee froto
each? and in less than three weeks 20,0001. was au.bt'teey were
twenty individuals, and if they had requiredet TOY -the
have obtained any further sum.—(Hear, hear') peee fa se.
not going to establish a university, but only a co IF the pb,
education of those intended for the Church.
13ut
rsities, t
es_
sent restrictions were to be kept up in the univeeeeeme ices
would cause the whole education of Scotland to u'aeteerstoe
tarian.—'(Hear, hear.) The schools and the gees.) dto
would be drained of all the Dissenting yo( c; 11, $"
entreated the Right Hon. Baronet to consideLii: the usish
take counsel, that if he did not accept this PI et floee t)
verities would be injured and the new college wotahere I,)se?
on their ruins.—( Hear.) What objection could prae" the
give legal effect to what had long been the univert'aelleges ea
How was the law actually enforced? In severa.de eot sigeea
rector, and in most a number of the professosseel3setiterst: it
the tests. Of all these 13 were Presbyterian 1);;" eeurs'the
27 belonged to the Episcopalian persuasion• u'peet ofto
would not be supposed that he did not speak withe respect
00
persons who belonged to the Established Cuet 110 01
country—(Hear, hear)—but he would say teat direst
who knew the history of Scotland trtgst egseaseta
that these restrictions were directed from toed e 13P7.00s
episcopaey.—( Hear, hear. ) Yet the Right ?; tkee ee
opposite had been installed as rectors without sign's?) be
fession or the formula.—( Hear, hear, and a laile„.jetiolig'iart
therefore, he asked the House to rescind those f.lt. es;jett 0e
d it
did not ask them to do any thing new, but to mea, loth tad
which was already the practice. The law wags ti
was lamentable to have a country under the wore of of #ar,
17th
law. As a 3 instance, he would point out the Soetereeere
Brewster, a name not requiring the addition Of kipie. Ltef
had distinguished the College of St. Andrews ten ornate
than the College could have distinguished Wm.) rt.' tb.ll to
having joined the party who had left the Chororete tn-teds
schism, the other professors basing found this Ste:w:o
enforce the law against him. They were u,eg le oste,
miserably disappointed, for the law was found warl'ie oPP hies
very plain machinery. The Right Hon. Gentleate7gtve
cb
the Secretary for the Home Department, woof Free 'Cheer
for saying that the members of the tbeir Set
could not rely very much upon the generosity of proolocb,
nents. There was a man who held a high andbe CDtlfoat
situation in that grand movement which separated t the !le
and of all men concerned in that great event he iviseett sgesee
moderate in counsel, and the.most temperate told "wree ono,
never uttered a word, or did a deed, that wa g-
ire etch
to any individual. He held the theological chatorard, y
burgh, and also the secretaryship of the private h kit rich
he might have kept ; that gentleman did not thin et ,
nary to tender his resisnation of that appointsliet; ebribt
however was taken from him. He would call the Moe
tive and harsh use of authority, and he would tee 'is reatlehir
Hon. Gentleman opposite, that that one act ofieud the en.
conciliation more impossible than any act recoreliereafteur t he
tor) of such transactions. These laws mat' eheees not et'eateste
forced in the same way as they do exist. He tof WOO'
should enter into a discussion then about the proprie keet see
in such cases ;he did not know whether the e Wide,
Baronet wished to impose them with referent at, het %of
cular chairs. In his view, it would be consist!fipite
and
struetive to their character. They would do la e {elte
to these establishments, if they- were now to Ore' heloar,
and limit the choice of the teachers, whbeesges the
to the Free Church, and were instructing their eat to tryA.,e,
implicit confidence imposed in them. If they Weeeenow,lemeete
question he would ask what connexion had iraroelteewlel- la
great proficiency, and the power to impart that hear.isre
others, to do with their religious opinions ?--(tleers'e of a ola
England the matter was different, where all form Ps d cuselsa,
family, as it were, in which religious discipline An be ad ;,,bt
instruction go hand-in-hated with science. It IV lay liseta,
tageous in the Universities in England ; it rtlecith the sties,
that professors should be persons in conneeion i,eieer
blishment but how different was it in the Scotca.u...`: that do'
where there was nothing like that domestic habllew scieoliiry
mestie discipline, where the pupils went to heading
to
the the Act
lectures and then returned home again. Accortititt.:ltil
tory of the country the statute was incensisten
o,rdisselit set
of Union, which first introduced the principles
.111
was br.enunisio
Act which was regarded last session, when a
14
the elittli That
in called Lord Aberdeen's Act. It was against
chats,. ait
law of Lords Cottenham, Campbell, and BrOlg diaregaroty
appeal was disregarded, and he hoped they we're large Pbeen
equally now. Was it no grievance that
a we're
la
avtia th°
and the majority of the country were preclu
erofesaere - that
obtaining academical honours as teachers or p indinity!, be
Colleges? Was it no grievance, was it toede, shootureed
those who had devoted their whole life to
st
they as fair
prevented from teaching anything because Now o.es a
toe ss-
with certain tenets in religious matters'?
:
•
opportunity to interfere—.or never was disstnt
would e o ssiceblo
twaibs lei ebnee d
involving ureh
in
no
exclusion
na now—ornre than thhaelsis thos eople
; ay of theft
were within that Church, and the great masor- of th it,
of Scotland. Ho would now ask for the re of reriallog
and for lest' to bring in mill for the Wig"

He would do so in the name of the people of that country,
in the name of the literature and science of that countr,‘ whiche
was by this law of exclusion treated with contuamdel
jee
onll._
came armed with the approbation and sanction. of
.1 .
!cronies of Scotland. He fond the majority of the pro
lessors of that eenntr • eealust that law, and he trusted that
they would be sufficiently') rsenlig- enlightened to see that by eentinu-
hie that law, it, would be at the expense of destroying thead-
vantage of common education in S. c tland, and 'the,.
roag.
wounds upon every one of the universities, and upon
j(wite of tl
Mr. DRIPAeI°IIIOIe.ND said that it was more than twenty
=ears since the report on this question was drawns u
, t)
-here were many change= since, but at the time that the re-
Ports were prepared there was no complaint from any quarter
against th's Act of Parliament ; no grievances weret hets
complained of; and he did not recollect that any Member of
the Commission, or any other person, wished for a discussion
wh ether this Bill should be repealed or not. There were some
observations, he recollected, to the effect that the law was
enforced in some colleges end not in others ; and the Colntarnkieso-
sioners asked why they did not enforce it in all. It was d
by 50-
,e este to be a question of Liberal policy. On that ground
Kith wished to see the question decided.--( Hear.) agreed He..
with the Ho c• 11 an that the analogies of Englieh col
blefiershad,noth'inegn aetmall, to du with the ques•ion.—( Hear,
tion of artry: 'reelSigeieotnehwthoal iteegyeesr, weree,,t
tihnetent'hteedolfZetable depi uaerat --
ea ents. lie did not think that there was any great grieythic_c ;
pl(hot if there was why keep up the law that was of no use ?
tier,°:',,he
_et' 'No hat it had become a matter of corn-
paii-,'Toeatio)vernmwentt ought to take a different view of it.
esti "'s awn part, he wished that they should set this statute
h--e• Ile hoped that no strong opinion would now be given,
nt that the question should be discussel at some future
Period.
jacNr• ACKLAND said, that he could not hear what. his
~11. r.
toeinvdehad said without saying that this was a question w le ,t 1
Gov u very serious features. He should be very glad if the
"lerritnent were to allow the Bill to be read a first time, in
°rder that the • should have time to consider the matter. He
could not find words to express the intensity of his difference
with the titer Hon. Gentleman opposite, who seemed to think that
to be was the possibility of any man supposing that there was
eeie anY impostanee or value to he attached to the religious
the of those connected with the professional chair.E
fah- ''''ern Member certainly appeared to apprehend the ng-
tree ••
much clearly than he (Mr. A.)
id „ ersoy system more
teadmat of the north, but still he would say, that if it was in-
ns peed t be set up as an argument in favour of this Bill that
the-s"airs of literature and science could be filled up without
leontAlieation of the tests, then he would recommend the
ties ei te, Pause before it applied the principles of the, universtt-
would -""1 country to those of Scotland. He, as
.a I rotestan ~
seteoceshesitate to do anything by which to bind the eon-
Would Lof others, or place shackles. upon them which he
As to ee sorry to see placed upon his own.—( Hear, hear.)
oftthe ecclesiastical affairs of Scotland, he could
.not look
j:tlii, Measure without reflecting that much of the life-bloo
teel'eetChureh of that country had gone forth from it, and,
eiile, he hoped that the Bill would not be rejected.
had f i,• GRAHAM said he cordially concurred. in much that
eed ha ten from the Hon. Member who had just sat down ;
ante e could not but admire the ability, as well as the forbear-
But L which characterised his observations.—( Hear, hear.er.
Alai ? should also say that it was the imperative duty of h
tir4"e4Y's Government to regard this question purely and. en-
tart
Pi a Scotch question • and there were great and impor-
Iterloolteinde.tto;shenre-cessary' to be made which should not be
the peculiarities of the Scotch (Tele-
till'eleal ;awe and aelswoetrlete peculiarities of the law. relatfing tot '
ern m Sept
universities ; these were considerations o
tlietanee iu dealing with this question, and thereforerea
,also 12(4 admit of being overlooked. There was
tost -11°ther important point which should
.not h bed
reeits. sight
of, though for some time . it had
Molise 'Med dormans Let him call the recollection of the
tnnateite, the
positiOn of the Legislature in reierenee to the
eee„,l'sued Church in Scotland, end the Universities of that
l• 1.1 Before the union* of Scotland. with England—he be-
thised th
rest e year lu9o—the monarch then on the throne of
,actionm wisely anti prudently enforced the laws for thel preo.-
Inained °I the Established Church in Scotland. That
the
r
day 0 In force until the Act of Union passed, and on very
ki,br that enactment passine, an Act of security for e
all th 'shed Church in Scotland was passed, which embraced
bee: Provisions of the Act of 1690, and which. rendered_
sersit7tY,,the applieation of the test to professors in
.the Uhmh.
Nit to 'tt.,' hat Act contained a very remarkable expression,w ic
offs t,`",e effect that no measure should be passed by the Eng-
fro% arnament which would have the effect of derogating
that the Established 'Church iu Scotland in such a way as
'the 4"ternplated by the measure they were now discussing.
stet House should also r the
that the majority of the pro-
ne. advises of the Crown were Episcopalians ; and even at
' taro `itrne of the Union the Scotch people were satisfied to at-
the ° national objects, which were w‘ll known, and for
thetoPreservation of which their public spirit and virtue did
her kreat credit. But such a measure as this devolved upon
holdleesrY's Government a very heavy responsibility, yet he
e4°llid I-Tit that noperiod had arrived better suited for the
ever, eration of it the present.—( Hear, hear.) How-
theef he should mention one matter of importance
Scotland, namely, that there was at
nthraP:reerseelete lfltooment in contemplation the establishment
eilllesl: e°untrY of an University of decided Dissenting prm-
If the'etn fact, the moue had already been provided for it.
the , s'unr'e of st d ' y'
• to be confined to theology,
but if "Auld be noud y 'n
it
%‘f
any unpleasant feeling arising ;
scieeltiie"gious tests asvnegreer too beay applied to the literary and
%trent e etairs, then the dissatisfaction would become
positio:ltageneral.—(Hear, hear.) He was glad to be in a
Mae,
e._ state that Scotland had within he last century
d literary
preve';',.st extraordinary advances in commercial
iadebt4Y ; and he knew of no cause to which it wasda n
es
ao . muchon.
o(clinear, tifeuarrliatAsl the total absence of sectarian e u . ti
system
had had one undivided
re-
-1411C1T41, edocationt aenodunhtarrymony and concord
w-erme aterially
affeetin'''s he had befOre stated, this was
a melesuor;gocotland that
the q g the feelings and interests of the p
t, 04(trunent would be bound to weigheo
well and consider
141 it. et it would not be prudent to give a distinct pledge
oties of the measure, one
tw:enieh, Wasestince•rel.y ifteylto thderaw in g a line of demarcation be-
feele; tue the‘oloe ileiffialctueaehers and the general teachers ; and
he o,Teni religiogus acerbity would be very dangerous. However,
co/10 " net refuse leave to bring in the Bill ; but he would re
°f it end the Hon. Member not to press the second reading
ees. !ull the feelings of andple of Sci?tland had been sass
tiiired in regard to it ;while he did not object to the
ibrought it, he would wish to be understood as not
Necleiessisnsgt the Government to it in any way.
Mr. FOX MAULE was glad to perceive• that the Govern-
;lreent did not object to the Bill being brought in, and he could
.7 ire the Right Honourable Baronet and the House, that it
a measure which would have the effect of healing
Z`is,•oe wounds now existing in Scotland.—( Hear, hear.)
ttitle. trusted that a measure would be devised which would render
the Present universities fully adequate to the requirements of
e,eue.e2untry. He could not sit down without expressing the
ontt:sition which he felt at the proceedings of that evening,
it
s"s,Os..aelooked forward to seeing, before the end of the session,
4, tory settlement of this question.
After a f
gole4 ew to bring lords Bill. rds from Mr. RUTHERFORD, leave was
Me. ss. INCOMES OF BISHOPS.
for are R. YORK.E, in the absence of Mr Elphinstone, moved
tie as.,l.ress for the gross and incomes of each archbiahop-
stt d"ao.. bishopric in Egland and Wales, in each year (from the
kid tii ntLJanuary, It'37), including all sums received from or
cf:ivedirbta:Erenetesle,sfiinasetsi,eal Commissioners, and all monies re,-1
' °rn all se • renewals of leas.es, building leases, and
T oche sources.—Agreed to.
sair. 110,, PUBLIC ACCOUNTS.
.t.tee aittiritr.ft.lNG said that as there was at present a Corn.
`sl'Pone thegfein the subject of Colotial accounts, he would
44tittee Cs_nwirlg motion until af er the report ofatshat
eeno hat io tes: 1:e• tore the House. His mo.titon . was
ao-
nseoaney shoLti
jopinion ol this House a uniform sys m
Mise' the plan 'u be adopted in all the departments ofe9ov_ern.-
Tha't4ers of i,of double entry, as recommended by the. Corno
°flat flit the ertthi"s Accounis, being the basis thereof. -.
be paie4weieat-i!teetion of the public revenue, and the exercisei
all isitm without n•,lastrientary control, the gross revenues sh mold
'hat 'es there,. t'eduetion into her Majesty's Exchequ. et , a
inert 144141n be authorised hy a Parliamentary Note. t 3.
quer: ? f reee• °lent of expenditure be allowed to be a depa. r --
IN •' 111 other than by credits on her Majesty's Excite Cesosu
to the EarltioE OP COMMONS AND WASTE LANDS.
,
lauds Bei to
eLINCOLN then rose to move for leave to brine
into in t lacilitate the inclosure of commons and waste
(lf °th the eent„Rliand and Wales. Ile would not cuter
11 -5 Roes -1" of this question, considering the state
tee ',stew . e (there were about twenty Members present).
rations Lontent himself by merely stating generally the al-
es0„1„ • 'who,
te "„'" he i '-_. were propesed to be effected by the Bill. . It
e-ee,leat eobt!` toe recollection of the House that a Bill relating
11,1'14:les, lap, hat. had been before the House last session. Dif-
Aftt, and the yer• Imposed themselves in the way of thisnees-
tee ,r haein ',matter v as referred to a Committee up stairs.
it '°,ll •g "eard witnesses and duly considered the subject,
, sad eh Mitt made several and
to the House ;
105 On theseN recommendations the present measure d been
bka • He
1,4%14,4 considered that the principles of the measure
ett n raiseci beent adopted by the House. An objectio.n
eeninfraetioe° a measure of this sort, on the ground that
.it was
t fuse ootstin of the rights of the poor, over which Parliament
his ;:i'Ove a sufficient check. Now, that was not a wells_
eje; sole, tn.tten to take even against the mdeasfuorrethotsf
vt7.ellle reason lest year (Lord Worsley),
forrePreeio7", that poor persons who had cornaemon right
it • aa ieeio ed when an application was made to Parliament
415 %rise SUN biii_wer, precluded froth appearing to oppose
itsee Prop, gnenee of the expense attending such a proceeding.
:qt. beeosed to introduce an additional security to that which
itleh h Pers°Pesed by his Noble Friend. The first altera.tion
th-egtsel Iseeeri°?_tased was that of the constitution of a commission.
bit she to Proposed to throw the duty of such a commission on let, th rornissioners but it had been found that the duties
4eNitiotseY w°44l have to perform would be of an onerous de-
*rank . He r
diei, 'aeon e y oposed to take power, therefore, to appoindttao
of "e the un'Y one of whom was to be paid. He propose
~. the firs, laude to which this Bill would apply into three classes.
is' set first elass he proposed to give the commissioners power
eesarlietne e the inclosure of them without the intervention of
will. IVlits-he meant that class ,f
land included in the 7th of
touts,. . Over , • 0
e mixed commonable land he proposed. that the.
of PZisigaloners should have no power without the intervention
*ve °lent, n
the, 14114 e Proposed that the commission should make
IteeeetarY. and upon these inquiries found a report annually to
lee then Y of State, and to be by him laid before Parliament.
oaths Pr°Posed that an annual Bill should be presented. to
ot,
lading orderswhich
444
.merit for •
provision would have to be made in the
wistl.ld, 5,4 the of that House. He had mentioned two classes
patientlitolitztiot.ee.rtail.thted class affected by this Bill would be those
radius of all towns above a certain amount of
tt, Ilpo:i4
_. His first intention had been to except these lands,
lso Propo,ertrYs he found that it would be unwise to do so.
vjitpadwith, . therefore, that the commissioners should be
enth.the eel!' a given radius, the extent of the radius varying
isocteetise esent of population, to make a special report, statie
tretrghttheZwanncses cuonnected with the lands, and the distancesg liow r ttAS Us; l'e proposed to exclnde village greens alto-
etaiert to en „operation of the Act ; but he proposed to take
14 ri!ge of au'e the commissioners to take measures for the
tettenste:tath4ta these village greens. In many cases, although the
Prided themselves upon them, yet they were little
Powteter fortn Swamis, in consequence of the non-existence of
the the eau'lnff
.proper drainage. He proposed also
commissioners should, in all cases, have
tkllalsitirtaWer
of making allotments to the poor in-
ii: till '44,42 ill doing this he had taken a portion of he Tore. the Honourable' Gentleman the Member for
44:44,Propos'n order to protect the rights of property,
che'lLinte /tette that these allotments should be held upon an
h_erge, IL , Which rent he proposed to be fixed as a rent
edl d to retakes were the principal alterations which he pro-
tat ?etepoo.e, and
,he believed that they would be found both
eir hr 6 US tO the rich as being the means of improving
etl:.ls4°elZTo• and to the poor as affording the means of in-
to '."gett for the definition
Ile would not then enter into the
of meetios. „ a definition of ownership, but he thought it right
otereeetitt,: ,_11,.t material alteration was made as to the power
th:!.the tnajotments. He proposed that a valuer should
kgill of-nraent, attd not the assistant commissioner as in
Lttnie iSeepttrui.it Yetar. After apologising to the House for not
km Movedlr
leaveo a more
incise, statement, the Noble
to bring ill.
e. itelns,wer to
'444" Earl °fa' question ,1.c.,1-:.1 Jr. W. WILLIAMS.
, seet,
e__ LINCOLN said it was not his intention to
?tr.
,f Teetion of lands held under corporation bodies.
414 Qs; bvAnKER. said, as we understood, that his Noble
aernber for Lincolnshire, who had done so mtich

to promote the objects which the present Bill had in view, was.
obliged unavoidably to be absent.
Mr. A GLION B Y said, he felt gre4 gratification that her
l'ilmj-sty's Government had taken this subject into their hands,
while at the same time lie thought the gieatest prate was due
to the Noble Lord the Member for Lincolnshire (Lord
Worsley) for the exertio-.s he used in promoting it.—(Hear.)
He thought the Bill would tend to make them independent of
foreign corn.
Leave was then given to bring in the Bill.
DRAINAGE.

The Earl of LINCOLN then moved for leave to bring in a
Bill to facilitate the system of drainage throughout England
and Wales. \Vith regard to the Bill which he had just ob-
tained leave to bring in, he admitted that, so far as he was con-
cerned, the great. merit of the Bill was owing to the exertions
of the Noble Lord the Member for Lincolnshire. He re-
gretted that, in consequence of the information he had upon
the subject of drainage not being so ample as he should de-
sire, the present measure would not be so extensive as he
could wish. It would, however, he believed, be of great ad-
vantage, though falling consi,lerably short of the objects in-
tended by his Hon. Friend the Member for Berkshire.
The measure would enable persons to carry drains through
the lands of others, on payment of proper compensation,
and would facilitate the elti traction of works and machinery
for the purpose of draining. Such were the principal fea-
tures of the Bill, and he believed good would result from it.
Leave was then given to bring in the Bill.
MERCHANT SEAMEN'S FUNDS.
Sir G. CLERK moved for leave tit bring in a Bill
to amend the Merchant Seamen Funds Act. At present a
shilling a month was stopped from the wages of
merchant seamen, which was under the management
of the corporation of the City of London. The fund
was applied to the relief of old seamen and their widows, and
he proposed that those funds should be invested in the same
manner as the funds in the savings' banks. As it was a
charitable institution, he did not think his Right Hon. Friend
the Chancellor of the Exchequer would object to such an ar-
rangement. The only difference between the present Bill and
the Bill of last year was, that there would be no interference
by any officer of the Government with the corporation which
had the management of the funds. He did not propose to pro-
ceed with the second reading for three or four weeks, in order
that those persons at the outports who were interested in the
measure might have time to make such representations as they
thought fit.—Leave was then given to bring in the Bill.
The Exchequer Bills (9,379,6001.) Bill was read a second
time.
Mr. HAwes and Sir GEORGE CLERK, and one or two other
Members, presented petitions against the grant to Maynooth ;
after which the House adjourned, at Nine o'clock.