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London, England, 1827-02-22 00:00:00

THURSDAY EVENING, FEIARU.A-RY 22,..1827.

No. 10,750.

BRITISH INSTITUTION, PALL MALL.

TilE. GALLERY for the EminwrioN and
SALE, of 'the WORKS of: B,RITLSH ARTISTS, in.:
eluding the Pictures of the Battle of the Nile, at the moment of
the Blowing tip of the VOrient, and that of the Representation
of Admiral De Winter delivering his. Sword to Lord Duncan, after
the Battle of Camperdown, presented by the British Institution
to the Royal Hospital of Greenwich, is open daily, froth Ten.
in the Morning until Five in the Evening. Admittance, ls.--Ca•:.
talogue, Is. WILLIAM BARNARD, Keeper.

WM. GINGELL, No. 101, Quadrant, • Regent-_
street, six doors from Vigo-street, late with Mr:
Arrol, Boot-maker to his Majesty ; Begs lease to inform the
Nobility, Gentry, and Public, that he has discovered a Skin
with which he continues to Manufacture BOOTS and SHOES.
The Skin is of that soft and elastic nature it will never coick,
nor will the wearer experience any more pressure than that of
a silk stocking. He has had the honour to make them for the first'
of Nobility, even Dukes and Peers of the realm, which he has
the pleasure to *Say, speak In the highest praise of them. He
would wish to recornniend to the Noblemen and Gentlemen his
HUNTING and JOCKEY BOOTS, 'cut upon an entire new
principle, the leg and vamp one solid piece of leather.
The Upper Part of the House to Let, Unfurnished. -

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE .OF LORDS—Fzs. £l.
Lord• Arbuthnot and Viscount Lorton took the Oaths and their
seati.

CORN 'LAWS.

Lord FAVERSHA,ltpresented several petitions,
from different places in Yorloqiire, against any alteration in the
Corn Larrs '
• Lord. TEYNHAM presented petitions froth the
Owners and Occupiers olLand near Dover, and from the Farmers
in the Hundred of Dover, praying that no alteration might be
made in the Corn Laws.

His Lordship also presented a petition from the Agriculturists
in the neighbourhood' of Rye, Kent, complaining of the Acts for
reducing the Duty on Foreign Wool. We understood' his Lord-
ship to say, if no Noble Lord more competent than himself brought
this subject before their Lordships, he should, at a subsequent
period, eall their attention to thelevtitions. .

The Marquess of BRISTOL preSented a petition
from some part of the county of Suffolk, against any alteration of
the Corn Laws. His Lordship said, that this question bad been
represented as a contest between interests ; anti though there
might be some apparent opposition between them, they must all
flourish and decay together. The agriculturist could not flourish
but it would be well with the manufacturers, and if the-manu-.
facf:;rers flourished the landed interest. would prosper.

Lord HOLLAND presented a petition from Come,
Lancashire, praying for an alteration of the Cori Laws. He wished
it to be understood, that he gave no opinion whatever on the
subject. He entirely agreed with the Noble Marquess, that
nothing was more erroneous than to consider this as a conflict
between different interests. They' had all necsari.ly one interest,
and all found their security in the prosperity of each other.

Lord KING presented a petition, praying for the-re-
'peal of the Corn Laws, from certain persons in Gloucestershire, call-
ing themselves members of the Anti Bread-Tax Association, No. 2.
Ile had understood that his Noble Friend near him had stated,
just before he entered the House, tkat this was riot a contest of
interests. He admitted that it ought not to be such a contest ;
but he was afraid it was a contest between principles that would
lead to prosperity' and a course of policy that had been too long
pursued, end would be, he was, afraid, still longer persevered' in.
The plan that was forthcoming had been too long in concocting
to be very beneficial. He expected to see no.'! Self denying Or-
dinanets-'!-lesiie from that House. The plan would be something
that would not very much displease the Landed Interest. It
would not be what . the people prayed for. He would contend,
however, that till that which was just and right was done, there
would be no peace on this question, and it would not be suffered
to rest.

Lord TEYNHAM objected to the petition being
received. Ile thought it,wits beneath their Lordships' dignity
to receive a petition from a society calling itself the Anti-Bread
_Tax Association. He hoped the Noble Lord would withdraw the
petition. _ _ _

Lord KING presented the petition as the petition
of the persons who signed it, though it was indorsed Anti-Bread-
Tax petition. Whether it were received or not, he was happy
that it had been read. •

The Earl of LAUDERDALE hoped the Noble
Lord would withdraw hie petition. It touched him, be believed,
on a tender point, when he saw that the indorsements of the peti-
tions were all Anti-Bread Tax petitions, and understood that there
were several, all drawn up in the same words ; and when he re-
collected the speeches of his Noble Friend, he was at no loss to
conjecture who could be the author of these petitions. ,
Lard.KJNC replied, whoever might be the author,
wainot. The petitions must, however, give his Noble Friend
considerable pleasure, as. they must convince him at least that
other persons could make as great mistake. in political economy
as he had made himself.

The LORD CHANCELLOR did not know
whether the Noble Lord had drawn up the petitions, or only in-
dorsed them to their - Lordships for acceptance, but there was
nothing.in We indorsement which should prevent their Lordships
from receiving the petition as the petition of the persons who
signed it. • _ _

The petition was then t eceived, and ordered to be laid on the
table; as were also two similar petitions, presented by Lord
King, from certain persons calling themselves members of the
Anti-bread Tax. Society, No. 31, at Stow, Gloucestershire,'and
at , Gloucestershire.

His Lordship next presented a petition, praying fur en altera-
tion of the Corn LIMO, from Dumblaine, Perthshire.
CATHOLICS.

The Earl of KINGSTON presented-several peti-
tions from the Roman Catholic inhabitants of the different parishes
in the county of Tipperary, in favour of the Catholics.
Lord STOWEL presented a petition from South-
end, Kent, praying that their Lordships would grant no further
concessions.to the Catholics.
The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL presented -a
petition from the barony of Stebardar, in Tipperary, signed by
thirteen Magistrates and most of the respectable inhabitants of the
barony, against granting any further concessions to .the Catholics.
The Noble Earl, in presenting the petition, complained of the in-
Anc.nce exerted by the Catholic • Priests over their Rocks. The
people, be said, were indifferent to the subject of Catholic Eman-
cipation, and would not trouble themselves about signing the pe-
titions. There would also be many more petitions such as that
he had.presented, and they would be more numerously signed did
the people not live under some apprehension for their own safety
if they spoke against the Catholic,. He had known instances
where individuals were prevented from speaking out by their
fears. The petition called their Lordships' attention, also, to the
proceedings of the Catholic Association, after an Act of Parlia-
ment had been passed to put it down.

Viscount CLIFDEN did not rise to oppose the
petition, nor had he any doubt of the respectability of the peti-
tioners, but he wished to say a word about the Catholic Priests.
He had hesrd from the Assistant Barrister who had been present
in the county of Waterford at the time of the Election, that there
was no ground whatever for complaining of the Catholic. Priests.
But this question was now before the House of Commons, and
would soon be decided. They had exerted their interest in fa-
vour of their own party—and 'why not? Did not the Protestant
Clergy interfere? Had they not interfered at Reading and in
Surrey ; and was it to.' be tolerated in them, and treated as a
crime in the Catholics? He thought not. As to the Protestants
being ready to petitiOn against the Catholics, if they dared, he
would say that it was his firm conviction, that the vast majority
of the Protestant landed proprietors of Ireland Were in favour of
Catholic Emancipation, and in favour of it from a conviction
that their own Security, the security of their families, and of
their property, all depended on its being carried. This, he was
sure, was the case in Leinster, Munster, and Connaught, and he
was told it was also'tbe case in Ulster. The Catholics had suf-
fered from many abuses ; and it was not surprising that they
were exasperated. Nobody could expect any thing else who re-
collected what had happened within the last twenty-five 'years.
Fifty years ago.zi- Catholic Priest dared not shew himself. But if
the people were, ai the Noble Lord said, indifferent, how earne.so
many petitions to be laid on their Lordships' Table ? They
might" not indeed be benefited by. the alteration. " Party was
the madness of Many for the gain of a few ;" but had they not
seen other parties in which the people were deeply interested,
though they gained nothing? Only the leaders of the Whigs
or Tories • ever gained any thing; but the people, nevertheless,
took a warm interest in these partiei. His Lordship, begged
their Lordthips to reflect seriously on Ireland, and ask them-
selves how all these things could end? For himself, he would
again express his conviction, that till the question was settled
in favour' of the Catholics, there would be neither peace nor
tranquillity in Ireland.
l'he Earl of IVIOTINTCASI-fEle rose to say a
6i, words in explanation. [The Earl of HARDWICKE objected,
that there was no question -before their Lordships ; but the Noble
Earl was suffered to proceed. 3 He said, he resided a great part
of his time in Ireland, and had lately come from that country.—
He knew what were the feelings of the inhabitants, and believed
ithat not one in five, lie would say, not one in seven, of the Pro-
testants in 'lreland were favourable to Catholic Emancipation,—
There were a few who, were indifferent in matters of religion,
;there were many who Were intimidated, but the great majority

PRICE in.

were averse from granting the Catholics political power. He was
afraid, if the question were carried, the peace of the country would
he rather endangered than secured, and he would recommend.
their Lordships to take time to consider what they were doing,
and to pause before they went too far. _ The Catholics were all,
in a great measure, led by the Members of the Catholic Associa-
tion. The Association. gave orders to have petitions drawn up
and sent round the country, and signed by all the Roman Catho-
lic Inhabitants. The Priests, who were the agents of the Assn-
ciatinii, induced the inhabitants to sign the petitions, and, in some
instances, persons were ordered to Sign them. who did not know'
what they were putting their names to. ...He knew that lately,
when a large body of Catholics had been assembled, the question
had been put to them, which of the two things they preferred,
whether the Corn Laws should remain as they were, or Catholic
Emancipation, and they all replied, they wished the Corn Laws
to be unaltered. They were deluded, indeed, by the representa-
tions of Wealth, and peace, and plenty, - which, it was sail, they
would enjoy whenever the Catholic Emancipation Bill was passed,
and, therefore, they might sign the petitions ; 'but otherwise he
believed they cared little or nothing about the question.•

Lord BELIVIORE presented a petition in favour of
the Catholics from -, County of Tyrone. The petitioners, his
Lordship said, were Roman Catholics of the lower orders, who
petitioned their Lordships to shew that they were not indifferent
to the question of Emancipation.
A Person from the Penitentiary presented at the Bar the An-
nual Accounts of that Establishment.
MACHINERY.

, .
Lord KING presented a petition from the Operative
Sawyers of Liverpool, praying,that their Lordships 'would levy
such ,a Tax on those who employed' Steam Sawing Machines, as
would make those machines cost as much as manual labour. His
Lordship said, as the petition was respectfully worded, he felt it
was his duty to present it to their Lordships, but he could not
agree to its prayer. If that were acted on, all labourers may pe-
tition to tax,all sorts of machinery, and the principle, must be ex-
tended to ploughs and spades as well as steam sawing machines.
The persOns who sent this petition were, lie was afraid, labouring
under great distress, and in that state men did not reason very
correctly.—Adjourned.