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London, England, 1816-05-21 00:00:00

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nitd, the extientlittne ae Umpire
should he 'defrayed by eqoal taxes intposed -On
the—like articles in both_ parts Of the Allured
Kingdom. The U. t tonoo.rabk Oct" kin?"
proceedm front the same article of the
Act of Union, that it was provided, that if ai Any
future' day the separate debts of eacheoentryshoidd
'have been liquiclated„or if the values of the re-
soectit'e &Ars, etttiretated according to their an.
nnael interests and sinking funds, shonld bear the
same proportion with the respective ermeribmion
of each country, and if it shotdd appear .(malting
allowjnce for a seedl,yariation in the value)', that
the eitcemstatteesof the two ectuotries WOuld ad-
mit of their contributing indiscriminately, and by
'equal taxes, to the genetal expenditure, it Should
he rompetrot to Parliantent to declare, that all
,future rxpence. together with the interest and
-charges on all joint deists contracted previous to
such leclaratiott, Should be defrayed indiscrimi-
nately by equal tae's, subject to the abatements
recited. The Committee of Finance appointed in
the'year fin• which his Right Honourable
Friend (the Chancellor of the Exclave') pre-
sided, first called the attention of Parliament to
this berertant article. That Committee was the
',first to declare that the Irish deht had increased so
• mita more rapidly than that of England, that they
• directed calenlatiotis to he made of the proportions
of the values ofitoth witlra view of bringing the
islthjino tendevAientitiee of Patliament ; awl that
,laceordittg• to. their report the actual value,
t!..stintattds according to the current prices
;of the. Pubic 'Fonds, was in the proportion
of:* nearly two to fifteen. `lf valued as an.;-
ouities, the proportions were ,nearly the VAMP,
•on. the supposition of the debt being redeemed at
.equal rates Wt. interest in each country ; that
dheSe rabies were altered ir sow degree by the
-addition of stock created in the saute' year, but
that the Committee conetirred in reportiug that
the values of the respective debts in the different
ways in which they had directed them to he taken,
v~tlted little from the proportion which the Act (If
Union bath prescribed. That in the lollowing
year, the neeo,unts not being sufficiently com-
plete,' the, inquiry was retarded, and the fatal
event, the death of Mr. Pereeval, interrupted the
proceedings of the Committee, when they were
un the point of being resumed. That the Comp
mittee 'wits revived in 1813, but contented itself
with ascertaining the joint account, and reporting
on the increase of ,he several branches of the re-
venue. Tbitt the Committee of 1815 gave to-the
whole of the subject the most anxious attention
bud that,thelletailea report of their opinion was
that which he now would press,nPon their at-
tention. lie stated that. the total amount of the
public funded debt of Ireland was, • on the Silt Of
Jaritutry,.lBls, 127,865,0001. and deducting that
purchased by the ConotriNsioners for the,
delnption Of the Nation:ll.ooE, ther.e,,remainett
no that 'day a Funded, Debt of .105,000,0001.
That 'the .•..ittking -Fund then applicable was
2,057,000/. and the whole charge of interest on
the Finnled Debt," Unexpired'Atinnitics, and Sink-
ing Finn), wits 6,900,0001, Fold thiS wits
exclat-
sive of the charge nt
.4,00,000/. raised in the
year 1801, for which provision has hitherto been
raised by Great Biitain, That on the caleulatien
madein the last year, but itteholing the unfunded
dept as well as' the. -1.40,0001.' just mentioned,
the ptoportiotos were found to he at about 2 tek
13. That the Committee of 'Finance, interpret-
ing this article with reference to tvlott must have
been in the coureatptatioe of
.both Parliaments
when the Act of/ Uoion was framed, with refe-
Felice to the whole spirit and context of the Act,
were decidedly of opinion that the Legislature
havieg acqeired the right of consolidating tee
debts and. expenditures of the two commit:s, ye-
tabled that right, althutigh the debt had passed
.proportion_ to that. of theta Britain of 2 to
15, as fully as if that right had been acted upon
at the precise moment when the It,epott of 1811
had ascertained their -approximation to within
one-hundredth part of the larger of such debts.
He said that it woeld be found itt the papers on
the table, copies of which he believed had been
put,into the hands of gembers in a printed form,
that the value& of the funded and unfmnled lebts
of Great Britain and Ireland, On the Ist of Fe•
bruary last were as follows :

ance.

Mt) per Cent. as =.l to 12 CS.
At 1 pvr Cent; as 2to 1•; 4'l.
At 3 per Cent, as 2 to 1,2 = 19.

—The proportions were about the same, if esti-
mated at the current prices ofStock in the last week.
lie stated the Customs, not with standing the depres-
Isiou last year, when the consumption of .British
produce was so greatly diminished, wits greater
than in preceding years, thdt it might be curious
to trace the:progress of this reVCIIIIII ill Ireland.—
The evilest, official .records of trade were of the
year 1698 the gross produce then was only
153,0001. In the next 40 years the produce .was
not quite doubler!, but it more tbandonhled in,the
fifty years (011 owing, the pioduce ,being, in the
year 17D7, 847,001. and that thus, in one Intn-
,
dred years, the Cnitoms hart increased tourtold
but that dire produce in the year 1815 was
2;4153,00014 so that in the lait la years the
whole quadritpled remount of I i97`liad more than
trehled.---(1-1ear,'heat. !)—That itt this" last men-
tioned period, it wag to he-observed, that -of that
,revenue the most Intrt was collected On foreign
merchandise unpaired, the ACt of Union pre-
, vented any alteration on the rates of British rrrirtu
tlqe for meaty years; thus precluding the State
from mating, an import of At least lour millions'
value,,_ Etyllud,deio *financial point. of
mentioned., tllAt Apjlkfe! 17rafttlIgi of (kis' impart
WOuld have been very productive indeed., :And
this circumstance; with respect to a great share of
financial imports into Ireland, sluudd always be
•held in mind when on Irish eves
upon for revenue on articles .of consumption.,
stated that in the yertr 18.15, the per CVlltilt: duty,
on exports was reduced, but that the'cnstoins in
,
wards in the saute year exceeded the preevinog
year in the amount of 208;0001, That the prin-
cipal increase arose 011 wood, Which pi educed
123,00-01:,• and on wines and tobacco, which pro-
duced 10),0001., owing' to that Act which. be:hted-
tine .hbbour twpropose, by which the" pent:oloa
duties` were brought up to the ileitifilt ratet anti
that, ~Burt it not been t 11(; ilVincSiCtf • state of
tire agricnlture ot Ireland in the last year, and
the coast:tont iuternal distress, he was sure the

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eustrlnit ferenne *mild illre heed intic‘a hiaLer, , the ke,laitimion or the iyeth oi k i:•e3t i,: :i -_14.1 • .I','
as it woodd be iovariably found that a de-, 'compared theta to Om that the SinL_in ~', i
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crease of rove on the -,import tat Britialillltt- Ireland being so emelt richer thatf the I.r ti.
lotfactdres wad the result Of a diminished export itu Pond, England would ,be' ill ti!e I'll°
of, corn and provisions froth Ireland, beittg in- proportiou benefited by that tonon (It tnimu4
deed an ilbsiOtis and ineeitable 'resalt. lla re- Fuo.l which Wodld 10110%i, the e'))' ,failed°ll
Fun,
gretted to have to nieution, thot the real valet: of of Debts, us the income of the fr.lin!'ing r'
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corn and anovisimis exported in the vear Isla. a 'rebind ,applicable .to toe reeentptiou (ti
ryas 1,400,b001, less' than the year before, and that the Debt of !rebind Was 736,0001. being
,'.
the decrease in British memitacture Imported WaS one to thifty,fiie. and three-fourths ;• that sync!
to the amonto of 1,000,0001,, the Foss to the re-- *at aPtiffetiblif to the redemption of Irish Peg iti
to 56+, both Siliking.y, t
emote being more, than 100,0001.,,0nd that the Bueland was as 1
dutia On woollens alone' had fallen off 36,0001. - ttitilting A totri . Cif 2,401,0001• or as I to.'M'"
He'retered intO this detail because he was sure it the *hole debt of Irelatid, While: the Sinkite.:
. 10;
wot,ltl be satiable tory to the Connnittee to learn; Pond of Great BritAin, affected 414. it h"0 l'ecylr'b 't that no deereaSe had taken plaee oh any of those the operation of lite Acts, Witt
,as 1 to 6_i.
.`t_
Articles upob which lie had deemed it his duty to althoiigh he inight find it eetessary to propose to,.
propose neW or additional Imposts, and hecanie . Parliament the cancelling a certnit: erOportinti(!it:'
while they coutemplated the growth of Irish re- stock in the hands of the COututissioners 01 ',i,,,
sources during; the last 20 years, and an emount. National -Debt in Ireland, .as a provision fear 11..
of revenue higher than ever before produceil,• interest of Treasury Bills for the service
,(..ii.
they might expect that by the encouragement af-' Ireland_ in this year, that the stun requirerl. ,
forded to Agricultore, and the markets giVen to if Parliament should . approve of that prop 1
their produce, as well es by.the genefal 'reprove:. !tion, would be -so small as not materialil..
y
!tent ill the collection of the reventie, that re-, to. affect the general state of the Irish Siei
venue might be made still
.nearer correspoo4 ing Fund ;-but until aftertheEttelish Budget u:11_
dent with the '
expences of the state • and the stated, it could not accurately be aSeertaineal whil.t
measure:l Which radm
j'aent hail lately taken, Would be the amount of contribution to be 1
e
la').
i
weir eminently citlcehttedplied to improve the na- ; the Irish Sinking Fund Would 11 ',
tional resources—(Hear, hear' t.)-4hat in the last richer than that with IVitteit it wait to he unite(',
year the export of corn of all sorts, \vas 1,512,000 it being reinetubered, that it bad never bye° r,c.,
barrels. In 1813, the year of greatet,t export, it ' curred to-ontil het taxation had lii!eu exhatistta ;
amoented to 2,100,N0 harrak. But Ile salt- I tool he said that the utmost sum %illicit roold lie
guiltily aillieipated the opelatiou of that B:11, t wanted Woold still leave that' Sieking F"4(1,, :IS
Witieli All.,)rded to the. agricolno-.! of Ireland the eoMpared With the whole of the debr, asi t" tic,l
best eueouregement,
.and ensured to Eogland her than 54, while that of Great Britain is ass It° he
•
helependetice of foreign supply. It arts satisfaca Before he left the subject Of our revenuel,. Ili
u'rY to.hllow that the shiPments since the 51110 f ought to have adverted to those heads of taxallo_,
January last, had ainonnted• to more than half aeltich England had adopted, end which had ant
a million of barrels Of elnn. O linens, the lie- yet been tried in Ireland. They were not 1"8"),.'
(mho! manofacture, and almost the. exclusive nor would they, be productive—~not pri)anctitei t
source Of the kV caw) or the northern province, least to the extent epon which Gentlemen nie,r:.
the export of 1815 was greater than that of any hare calculated. We must take iota eccouuk 11e
year since 1 803. ; the year 1795 was distinguished diminution upon some of our existing. biunch":
by the greatest expoit we had ever sent out ; it J In those of Licences and Ilearilr Money alone
for
you sveuld lose more than 200000 r, annually;
111110011ted to 46,000,000 varda ; in the last
year it wits 43,383,000.
.The Right Monogr- Parliitircnt nurs't
.bear in taint! that vital enact'
able. Gentleman .then adverted to some improve- meta of the Union,wwhich prevented the levying
ment in the Cotton Manufacture 01.1 ielend, which a tax'on any article higher than that yeried in
he elucidated by• a comparison of the E,sports in Great Beitain : he bad himself 'always cousidertal
the vcar of .the Ultioti with the past year, that the continuance of the fletirth Duty was
shewing acow,uleualile hierease in the litter
~ °illy to be defended on account of behind •
being
period. The Export of Butt er, atm.; her great source exempted from the Haute Duty paid in Greatbri-
of Irish wealth, had g
d been proreieety increas- lain. Besidei the House Doty, the other taxes
iog. He stated the real value ot the -Export, .in which we had not were all inahe Excise, and tint
1703, at 810,0001. a and ie the last year, .at principal otie, that upon beer, Upon moral and po!;',.
2,27l,oool:although the price iii4d fallen greatly litical grounds be should extremely regret to sq.
in the latter year, and he did not doubt that the -introduced in 'lreland. In a word, all that Iredr
additiotial protection afforded to the present Sys. hind could yield to the empire would he inadequate
shin of Parliament would be, of infinite impoit- I to defray, ant her separate contribution as
fle,vvaa anxious, in Living this view of 1 the Act of Union hod imposed it upon her, hut,
customs and of the, principel art ides of Exports, # even that deficiency which her net revenue ex*
to afford to Parliament as accurate u statemeet as t Irihited, inadequate es it was to meet the anna"k
Ire could of that portion of revenue and of na- charge of the interest of our debt. He would say.
tional resolirces.. ( Cleer, hear !) 'I he Excise was nothing of the charge which this year would add,
the next head that followed, .on iv hiele Ite,ssaid jwhile that tevenee hail lost so great a portion itr
that the ,Duties had' beeu particularly productive.; the repeal of the'Mult Duty would deduct from it:
first, with respect to Spirita, him! tegulatioes besides the ditties on articles of British grovvtl',
adopted in Se,sion 1813 amt. 1814, [flat -Reventle • and tetteufacttire yielded more than hillf a nolion,
alone, in the la3t yeti, amounted t0.,1,575,00p1. It wonhl be for the Legislature to consider whe-
b„,,iitg ill I !Ivrea be hey° nit the preceding pair of titter the -ad ratarem duty of 10 per cent. conitlbs
70J,.1781. ; Mid the avt!roge incre3te lin the re- continued after the intermit texes of both min-.
IV' nit front Spip its, over the year 1S1!, WWI ' trier ;halalsl have been espitiliied, What were
.3:.i ~11;+1, lie did wat now, with this tpiestion, , they, in fact, but ti tax tijoiellle constunptiou nt
consider that of a rednction of ditty which marry ; our people; they were paid upon every article
persons had aireed, but observed, that in.lBlo the either used or iv am by the inhabitant of that
ditty Was 2S. 6d. the gallon, and that the excess of i gootatay, which was least -.able to pay. Ile kuesse.
pioditee iii the year 1815, though not so great as : that for 20 years the Act of Union had contiutual:
the year 1811, was 7.36 ,0901, übuve the /year ' them, not fin the sake of the revenue,•but uteler
ISM, the averege mintedl increase of the Malt. what he deemed a 'manifest ert•lci”lii`
ot, the pro t
~, ,
ploy for the three last years, over the year liet'A ot, protecting daties•aas if such (knits Itimu wits 281,0001. and the entire.amount of the revs_ British indlistrve were the means of sustaining or
nue produced front Malt in 1812, 304,5001, ; iu improving oiirs, or as if deductina 14 per. reot, 1813, 533,0001. ; anti in the List year, 655,0001.• from Irish.. Capital was not . impairing um-. .:.
In candour, however, he la:Minded the Cont- terially thoSe means :which ' were Wanting to:
mittee that a continuance of this produce was not, . apply to the im m
proveeut of After ObjectS, !sure
to be hoped for, since: that portion of the duty- suited•to the people, the industry, and the soil of was in the progress of being repealed, vtiltich C 01.... 'lreland. He had not williugly atiVelltered loot tha '
responded w M
ith the War Duty on alt in' great, discussion Of R )Dint upon which lie islets pont:-
Brilaio. • lie stated that the Excise Duty on To.' cal economists had (Ureter!, and upon which great
bacco yielded, in the last year, 560,0001. each!. ' misconceptions, if be might presume to call it so,.
live of the Duty of Cnstoins, which was 242,0001, existed in. Ireland as well as in Other countries.
and Said, that it was unnecessary to adVert.to the He had alluded to it •nosy merely as connected
other minor branches of ' Ekeige, which were in with the prospects of our lot tire resenue. For thC
themselves inconsiderable. .r The ,Bight Honour- same period of twenty years we were preeltel./1•
able Gentleman-stated, that in the branch of 'As- I from touching the great, articles of. stilt ;111(1 coals,
sessed Taxes there had been two increases within and he was glad that we had been :it Was Vcry.
.The last three years,' the first of 25.,per cent, and. questionable- hoW Oar the fiist onght to he 111:1dC
by the second all the then existing rates were assi- t more a source of revenue than . it was ; and con-
lodated to those of Great Britain : that the pro-- sleeted as tile consideration must be with the re-
d ece itt 1812 was :342,0001.; in the last. year venue diatwn'frorn salt in this country, it would:
681,0001.; which had been owing not alone to call for all thetexpenience end judgnient of his
.the ditties being raised, but to theimprovetbent Right HOnourable Frieod ; but it iad been his
of the collection,. mid that from the manner' in duty, in CP1111:0:;1', to remind the.llouse,
which the assessMents had been made, lie anti- was this gaeataind productive brand) of revenue,
ciliated this . year a still greater prodnee,' though comparatively untouched, Ile was sure he.
the last three' years- the increase, as' Compayed with should not he suspected of keepingthat there.
otit of view
1812, had been 339,0001, per ann. exclusive of any nart of our totcre' resources. He shOuld
Hearth duty; on which 'point the Cononittee waS 1 deprecate, perhaps any great Hugmentat ion '(>f
Mare that a 13111 leas: now in progress for rtlier• the. duty On cords; the cife,et at it on our maa
iug a particular description' of houses from the nufactures,, as well ,as, On the comforts of the
duty
.as well, as 1 rout that House 1.,,,, Kirwffient
,p-t,.opk, ‘o,,,:hkd no 'internal supply,' won't! Jr*,
thus luarkingits disposition :hi favour of the lower, !severely fat . bat it _ was his,' dal y also, to. pre- orders of the people, who would be, if those Bills vent this subject, any more than the other, being
met the'satiction of the Legislature, fieed. front . unnoticed to the House. He should have wiOt" '.
PaY9'ent of all direct taxes to th'e state, On the ed•to have connected' with the.arr`angements so tut - Stamp Duties he said that the not pioduce in the proposed to Parliament the great selaieets- of the
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year. Ibi.) was a 0,009/, occlusive of the duty Oa , assimilation of oat currency, and the state (If the • - '
exchanges whieb now existed; it would seem onr
iiirit and Ettekt:: Lic'etlegis, Which %vete trans:
termed to the 4sixoise 'Departuteot ; the noes being . reasonable between. of I • '" ' •
two parts the same tint- , .
raised in the hist',Sessioe, and the ittolualprodeee dom. He knew that its present rate Waft Owitlg,
estimated at 45;0004. which in „Lite last six wombs- tothat dintinutitoi 'of native exports, and of their
Of the yeAr.yieided46,ooot. He reminded Gentle- I value, which afrocted us in the last year; and he
nain that Bills, were then inprogresS consolidating feared vervi,tunch, that whet) we came to remit, .:
, and att- at,o, CotSltirla e ,
the -lit" rel'ning'to Stawl) I)"tks ' ' viable portion of our revenue to meet
ticipated; ptirtiettlarly loin! the regolations. en- those chaisirea which haul heretofore been defrayed'
forced in the offices of Courts of Justice, ;a- by loans raised in this country, the evil would b 0 ,
greater result than from any increaSeof I ''S ' notch aggraVated. He called it an. vil, although
t ant, ~ 1,
;_i%titlh.eleYnlisqt(!iteeljetai:elygl:te)etisa
if)nrit:iiiittliceint,ort.-ieleffeietteavtaell,l-0e it operated indirectly us some benefit to Ireladd.:
Icdid not reconcile him to it that it acted'as ty. Qt 1.1-031111'111 the last year at np.,vards. of,'SiVen- Ito-linty on exports of Ireland; o'r even, what wfts
11)1111(?Jiiii 441(1' he stated the gross
,produee;. 'he- t, better still is being.a tax. upon absentees, thaC
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,oFisi'lltesainsitand,ift'iobielr
oCifenottriry,cir:er:
talon. , ..r. 41 z- ivory. could he accomplished, and-that restriction,
tau the state of the Sinking Mitirl of.'lrclanZitaces
gqktlifthen,calleti the attention of' the. Coma ' . ' Ire 7
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