The Sun.
London, England, 1827-11-12 00:00:00

" LIES OF THE DAY.

" PAR:S, Nov. 9.--The Courrier Francaise—' In
the battle of Navarin, Frenchmen were killed by French-
men.'t
" The same.---' It is resolved to modify the Ministry to
soften the electors.'"

(From the Journal des Debuts.)
" P.S. TEN O'CLOCK P.M., NOV. 9.

" Victory! Greece is saved ! Victory ! The Philhel-
lenic treaty was not a deceitful promise. The opposition
which has solicited during five years this sacred alliance,
triumphs at once by the force of laws and of arms. The
liberty of the press, so much calumniated by those who
would have hastened by their good wishes, and sometimes
by their efforts, the extermination of Greece,—that liberty,
on which the Minister seemed to desire to revenge himself
for its disdain, is regenerated to celebrate, in the restora-
tion of a whole people to life and independence, its most
magnificent labour. The defenders of all good and great
causes, the defenders of constitutional monarchy, have for
them the charter, justice, civilization, the times: they will
also have glory."
" We have received to-day, by way of Ancona, news of
one of the greatest battles fought for, a long time in the
Grecian seas.

" On the 20th of October the three combined squadrons
endeavoured to obtain entrance into the port of Navarin,
where the Turco-Egyptian fleet was completely shut in. A
first flag of truce was not received. On its return the
Admirals sent a second, upon which the Turco-Egyptian
fired. This insult could not remain unpunished. Each
of the three squadrons advanced to obtain reparation, and
force the entrance of the port. The Turkish squadron,
ranged in line within the port, received the attack, sustained
by the fire of all the batteries from the city and the adjacent
shore. The affair was long and serious. It covered the
Christian fleet with glory. The Turco-Egyptian fleet is
annihilated. We regret to add that the Austrian vessels
have suffered the same fate. Ibrahim was not at Navarin.
He was pursuing in the Morea a course of exactions so
terrible, that it was supposed he was bound to the project
of speedily quitting the Peloponnesus. An admiral:le con-
cord reigned among the Allies. Each of the Admirals in
his despatches does homage to the other two. The English
fleet appears to have suffered. -We-learn with regret, that
a son of Sir Edward Codringtott, a brave officer, has been
wounded : one Captain is killed.
"Admiral de Rigny, whose firm spirit and wisdom will
have so powerfully concurred to the safety of Greece, by
the services which he has rendered for several years in these
latitudes to the cause of humanity, and by the weight
ivhich his efforts could not have failed to put into the ba-
lance of Ministerial Councils, where the entreaties of pub-
lic opinion have for a long time weighed too little, has ac-
quired in this glorious affitir new titles to public esteem
and recognizance. This officer is nephew of one of the
most honourable candidates of opposition, M. the Baron
Louis, formerly Minister of Finance.
" It is painful to add, that the ships of Admiral de
Rigny reckon many dead. We would not sadden with
recriminations a success so glorious for our arms, so glori-
ous for religion and liberty, in which all Frenchmen ought
to rejoice together. But it is impossible • not to think, that
if, instead of only ceding to Mr. Canning, the Minister had
sooner ceded to the will of humanity, of good policy, and
of France, doubtless we should not now have to deplore this
new effusion of blood. In any case a
,million of Greeks
would have been spared. • The treasury has been agitated
by the noise of these news. . A fall of stock has been the
result of the fears which the just conflict inspires for the re-
pose of the world. The difficult situation of Austria, the
resentment of the Pacha of Egypt, the religious and poll-
heal irritation of the Porte, are, -in the war which has
theb ursrtesul t
forth.,
In any complicationscase!le t
ofonwehigclhanodnerecflaenuntoiotneaclocnuslaotlee
us—Greece is saved !

(Supplement to the Journal des Debats of Nov. 8.)
" A gendarme has brought us the following letter from
the Prefect of Police :

"'TO THE EDITOR OF THE JOURNAL DES DEBATS.

CC PARIS, SEPT. 7.

" Conformably to the dispositions of the article 8 of
the law of 9th June, 1819, the editor` of the Journal des
Debuts is required to insert in the next number the article
of the Moniteur of to-day, which commences by these
words: " Nous aurons yublie, &c." and finishes by these
—" Que la France a besoin," &e.

(Signed)

" ' DEI,AVAU.'

" We have published the Royal ordinance which con-
vokes the electoral colleges, and that which raises to the
peerage eminent persons chosen in all quarters of the
kingdom.
" The first was in some sort a consequence of the
system of septenniality which it was necessary to substi-
tute with due caution to the quinquennial system which it
replaced. Septcnniality is a question of high political
reason judged
,by all the great minds. " But the written
were,
p i trail a habits not
fur suffi-
ciently the
effaced f
text which regulates the anterior system, and the rights
which thatsy streommhas ourl
created,aw "and
wisdom of Government to feel itself at ease in conducting
the transition from the legal duration of powers conceded
for five years, and the new legislation which consecrates
them for seven. Thus, septenniality, respecting at,once the
prerogative royal and the habitudes of the country, intro-
duces itself softly into our codes and manners.
" We would avoid, therefore, the term dissolution in
speaking of the appeal made to the general elections, be-
cause, in the language of the journals, a sense is attached to
this word more expressive than that in the constitutional
ordinance. The same Moniteur publishes a list of the
presidents of colleges, which proves that the Crown, in
presenting the former deputies to a popular election, by a
royal candidature, demands of the country rathei.
gua-
rantees for the continuance of a conservative system, than
changes, which are always adventurous—that which, how-
ever, does not exclude modifications, rendered necessary by
the changes of time, and new regards which necessarily es-
tablish themselves between the deputies and their electorS.
The explication, then, of this measure is found too natu-
rally in electoral legislation, and in the list of presidents, to
require further developement. Some general ideas, drawn
from the spirit of our institutions, will suffice equally to
explain to all men convinced of the importance of the

tc Though this letter is of old date, we think it neces-
sary, if authentic, to complete the series of documents
relative to these events."—Note of Editor of Gazette de
France.
ta For the truth, see the details which wo publish on
the affair of Navarin, Only one Frenchman did not an-
swer the call of Admiral de Rigny."

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peerage, the choice which is about to enlarge its basis, and
of course to augment its preponderance. The Charter has
recognized and consecrated the incontestible right
which the King has to create Peers at his will, The
exercise of this right cannot be suspended or moderated by
any considerations but those of which the King is sob
judge. In England the peerage formed itself; contempo-
eraneous with royalty, numerous and powerful in its origin,.
it has only need of Wing aided by additions and replacing,
of which usage rather than the law limits the faculty. 11.
France the King has commenced from the foundation tin'
edifice of the Peerage, and this institution is sustained II)
the hand which founded it.

" It is necessary to judge the opportunity or necessity of
a new nomination of Peers, always sufficiently impressed
with the constitutional difference which exists between the
elective and hereditary Chamber.
" The elective Chamber is altogether nominated by the
people, and the King only participates by nomination of
the electoral colleges, of which the functions are confined
to
,receiving the votes and signing the proces verbal of the
election. The number of Deputies is fixed by the law, and
the people must fill up the vacancies caused by resignation
or death. The Chamber of Deputies, then, is always com-
plete: one may say that it is always young : for it draws
from its periodical election or dissolution a renewal of life,
youthfulness, and strength. This Chamber, then, is con-
stitutionally popular, independently of the personal opinion
of its members. It is popular
,in its origin and composi-
tion—popular in its special function, in its grant and con-
troul of imposts, which is the chief affair of the people
who pay them. The Chamber of Peers is named by the
King. The number of its members is not fixed. The
King is not obliged to fill the places caused by death and
the extinction of families. Thus, to all the advantages
enjoyed by the Chamber of Commons, more numerous, al-
ways complete, always young, the Chamber of Peers can
only oppose its hereditary immobility, which is as much a
cause of inaction as a principle of force. The constitu-
tion, it is true, would supply that which might be wanting
in the Chamber of Peers in numerical force and advantage
of position, by prerogatives and privileges ; but now, less
than ever, and in France less than any where else, are pre-
rogatives and privileges a force. It is an error too generally
spread that the riches of some Peers, or, if you will, of
all the Peers, add to the force of the Peerage. The wealth
of the Peers of England is feudal or political, and conse-
quently gives influence and authority. The wealth of the
Peers of France, even when territorial, can only be personal
or domestic. It gives nothing but enjoyments, and in-
spires nothing but the desire of preserving or the fear of
losing them. The bodies powerful by their wealth were
those where the mediocrity of fortune was individual, and
wealth common ; and too many examples over the whole
of Europe, proved that the most opulent individuals have
not always been the most faithful to monarchical destinies,
nor the most disposed to make sacrifices in defence of legi-
timacy. Such in France is the state of things and opinions,
that personal property, more disposable thou territorial
wealth, has much more influence.

In England, the I-louse of Peers has, relatively to that
of the Commons, an importance which alight be reduced,
even without danger, if we consider that the House of
Commons is, in that country, so to speak, the daughter of
the Peerage, which, with the Crown, has so great an in-
fluence on the electors ; and where the Peers procure ad-
mission into Parliament for their sons, brothers, relatives,
or adherents.

" In .France nothing like this occurs. The House of
Peers does not consist of much more than two-thirds of
that of the Deputies, and, with double the population of
England, our Chamber of Deputies does not amount to
two-thirds of the House of Commons, while the French
Peerage scarcely equals that of England.
" The resisting force, therefore, of the Chamber of Pees,
must exist in the number of its members, and above all, in
the spirit by which they are animated. Besides, a nume-
rous Chamber is less subject to. the influence of the parties
formed in it, because there remains in the midst of them a
portion more or less considerable, which keeps aloof from
their divisions, and can prevent their danger. And when
we say a.numerous Chamber, it is only because a legislative
body, in a country of the extent and population of France,
must be numerous, to have its roots in all parts of the king-
dom, instead of being confined to the capital, that when
thus spread over all points and present every where, it con-
nects itself with all interests, and gives universally counsel,
and the example of all monarchial duties and affections.--
And if popular power has every where its deputies awl de-
fenders, it is proper, it is natural and necessary, that mo-
narchical power should have those belonging to it.
"It is not for the advantage of a few families that the
Peerage is instituted, but for the defence of the royal power
and the stability of the state. It is that a regency or a
minority may find, if necessary, in a strong and monar-
chical Chamber, counsel and support. It is in the nature
of a Representative Government that the Chamber nomi-
nated by the people should become more and more popular.
It is therefore necessary that the Chamber nominated by
the King should receive all the force which the constitution
allows. In England the aristocracy has gained what royalty
has lost. In France royalty would only lose for the advan-
tage of democracy. A peerage limited to a small number
of families, compared to the whole population, resembles a
privilege : extended to a greater number, better propor-
tioned to the population, it becomes an institution ; and it
is of institutions that France has need."
(From the Quotidienne. )

MARSEILLES, OCT. 31.*—There are several Egyptians
in this city intended for the College of Paris, and others
returning, not being able to hear the climate. It is thought
that all these strangers will embark with M. Drovetti, who
is returning from Alexandria charged with a special mis-
sion, and who will be iu our city about the sth of No-
vember. TIT Arabs too, who conducted the Giraffe to
this country, are here.
(Front the Constitutionnel.)

Manure, OCT. SO.—A change of the most important
kind has taken place at Tarragona. M. Calomarde, who,
up to the present, has been in close attendance on the
King,indthe
3onily:
Salazar,intepre Ministerterofhis of Marinewill, is
and of the
about to havei
a colleague, for e
Finances, par 'interim, has received orders to join his Ma-
jesty at -Valencia.
By the same decree, Calomarde again recommends the
most strict execution of the decree respecting the members
of secret societies ; but both this Minister's measures are
adjourned by his colleagues, who have, up to this time,
confined themselves to that line of conduct pursued by
Recacho some time ago, on both these subjects, represent.
ing to his Majesty the great inconvenience presented Ly the
execution of such measures.-

* Government observes the most profound silence re-
specting the misunderstanding with the Regency of Algiers.
We have frequently attempted to give our readers some in-
formation extracted from the Journals of the South, as
well as from private letters on this subject, but were pre-
vented by the Censors. We are assured that the 'Duke de
Dalmatia is now soliciting the command of the expedition
against Algiers, should such a thing take place.

IRISH LAW INTELLIGENCE.

COURT OF CHANCERY.

A very serious schism has arisen between the Lord
Chancellor and his Honour the Master of the Rolls, with
respect to the appointment of separate Secretaries. Hereto-
fore the custom has been to have but one Secretary, and the
Lord Chancellor invariably nominated him; and all peti-
tions were lodged with, and the fees payable to that indivi-
dual, no matter whether the subject of such petition was to
be moved before the Chancellor or the Master of the Rolls.
On the first day of Term, Sir William M‘Mahon an-
nounced that he had appointed Mr. Frederick Shaw his
Secretary, and directed that all petitions intended to be
moved in the Rolls' Court should be lodged with • that
gentleman.. A very serious discussion took place, the con-
secinence of which was, that the Lord Chancellor pro-
nounced an order on Thursday, that all Chancery petitions
should be lodged with his Lordship's Secretary, Mr. Long,
or with Mr. M'Kay, as his representative.

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