Star.
London, England, 1808-11-29 00:00:00

THE EVENING STAR.

LONDON.

TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 29.
PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK.
Consols for money 66f—for Jan. opg. 66+1-omnium
Exchequer Bills, 6s. es. prem.

AME RICA..

. We mentioned-yesterday the arrival• at Liverpool
of r. vessel from America, having broken the Em-
bargo. The vessel- that has arrived is the schooner
Jane, from New York; which.place she left on the
7th instant. She has brought a series of New
York PO up to the 4th inst. from which, it ap-
pears that on the arrival of the Richard; Captain
Odiorne, at New York, from Liverpool, on the 22d,
of October, considerable expectation had been raised,
from a report of war between France andthe United
States, that the embargo would be soon withdrawn
as to this country ; and extensive commercial specu-
Lions had been consequently entered into. This
expectation was however of short continuance ; and
ve are informed that, when the vessel sailed§ it was
the prevailing belief, that the Embargo would re-
main in force. The statements in the later papers
(The New Tor; Gazette and General Advertiser) are
strongly to this effect. The schooner Hope had ar-
rived on the 22d of October, with dispatches from
France ::nd England, in twenty-six days from Cowes..'
The packet of the present month was expected to sail
from New York on the 12th instant, direct for Fal-
mouth.

Thc,. following are Extracts from the New-York

PiTcrs :

NEW-YORK, OCTOBER 22.
HIGHLY IMPORTANT.

Yec...erday arrived here the fast-sailing barque I
Captain Odiorne, in 50 days, from Liver- i
pool, and 25 from land to land. Captain V. has
f‘tvcared the Editors of the Netv-York Gazette with
London papers to the evening cf the 17th ult. inclu-
si7e. From these papers the leading articles are ex.
tracted ; but the news of the most importance is.the
following, under the signature of the Cappainhimself
a Captain Odiorne informs, that on. the-119th of-
September, when beating down Channel,: Mr. Maury,
the American Consul at Liverpockl, sent. one of his
clerks on board the Richard, who verbally informed
Captain of the arrival at Liverpool of an express
from Lon a, advising of a declaration of WAR ly
,Fratre agitate& Mita! States of dloserita—and advised
Captain• 0. to corn to anchor and insure his vessel in
cameras= thereof. Captain 0. has dispatches for
Gover men t, which were ordered to be sent off to
Washington immediately on his arrival here, or to
charter it pilot-boat on his arrival the coast, and
run her into the Chesapeake with the dispatches.

14 Captlin 0. also informs, that in consequence of
the importance at the dispatches, he beat out of the
Channel with a heaciwiocl. (Signed)

creel."

Admitting (what is a pretty broad allowance) that
the appearance of the pamphlet alluded to is evidence
of the intention of the British Ministry to adhere to
their Orders against France, even if France should
repeal her Decrees, it does not follow that such a re-
solution can prevent an adjustment between Great
Britain and the United States, unless it can be shewn
that France will abolish her Decrees.
There is no evidence that the French Government

" JOAN ODIORNE."

"On the above no comment on. our part may he deemed neces-
sary. The facts as stated by Captain Odiorne speak for them-
selves. We are inclined to believe this War-News, because, we
know (if our Government Papers are to be believed) that the ul-
timatum to the French and English Governments, went out in the
schooner Hope. The Hope arrived, at Falmouth on the IGth of
August, landed a messenger with dispatches, proceeded, and ar-
rived at Havre-de-Grace on the 18th. Hew lorg she staid there, 'tvill do so.
we know not, but we find from Lloyd's List, tl,at she arrived at
Cowes on the 14th September from Havre. Mr. Pinckney's dis-
patches, received by the Richard, are dated on the cover the leths
two days after the arrival of the Hope from France. It is therti-
fore highly probable, that the determination of Bonaparte to go
to war with the United States, was received from Mr. Armstrong
by the Hope, which induced Mr. Pinckney to lose no time Cr
exertions to get off the Important dispatches, which were received
by Captain Odiorne from the American Consul at Liverpool, on
the morning of the 19th of September, the time of the ship's
railing. The dispatches were forwarded by yesterday's mail o
Washington."

The proposition of the, United States to Great Bri-
tain relates solely to the question between the British
and eurselves.

If the English Ministry will repeal their Orders
with respect to us, we will abrogate the Embargo
with respect to them. If France will not annul her
Decrees, we will still enforce the Embargo against
Frznce.

seined to Me. Canning a nteiperlid; vatic* piker ti ! Amp) tied Ann-Tinnita—By• publidling ate
t rot
some *iliweeksoblpigeastmanimyynßenepseubs
tixtteglegedepett
subject oF the Orders in Council. and the Embargo
upon such a basis, as to leave Great Britain dor •
..,,ea, - (Signed) J. a.
TIM EMBARGO WILL. Ba RAlsan.,
of any just cause for the continuance of the former., i ,
In obedience:to his instructions, it is said he hat
firm
. lien made in articles usually exported to Great Bri.
urged in an amicable and very respectful, though lipecc43nulat7oncshahnats.ve
manner, the propriety of the abrogation. of those Or . tain and her dependencies, to Spain and•Portugal.and
dens, on the ground, that at they were issued en the their dependencies, on a fair presumption that the ern.
supposition that the United States liad not resisted bargo would be raised on the meeting of Congress.
the French Decree, and the AmericaftGovernrnent i This spirit of speculation has been increased from the
consoling language of the public papers printed under 1
having proposed to enforce the Embargo against ;
the e
France if she will not abrogate her Decrees, and to ' ye of our Administration, holding up the idea.
annul its operation against the British if they will : that all was going on well between the Governments
repeal their, Orders, there no longer remains any lof Great Britain and that of. the United States. As
cause for the existence of the Orders of Council, at i yet' we have seen nothing to discourage the specula-
-1 dons. here spoken of, though the arrival of the Hope
any rate witlyregard to the United States.
;gives no
Mr. Pinckney, we understand, has very ably and' hope, of either England or France removing
their Decrees against neutrals. Even if the Hope
conclusively combatted.the idea that the United States
did,not resist the Berlin decree. He representedthat : had brought positive news of the rescinding of the Bri
General Armstrong, our minister at Paris, had de. tish Orders in Council, which was a few days since
manded an explanation from the French Government I expected, our situation.relative to the raising of the
as soon as the decree made its appearance, and had . Embargo would not, in our good opinion, have been.
altered ; for though the prospect of its being raised
received assurance that it was not meant to- apply to ;
would certainly have been more apparent, in reality
America ; and that for twelve months afterwards no
it would make no difference as to the propriety of
condemnation had taken place under the Berlin de-
raising the embargo ; for, suppose the British Orders
tree, the first case being that of the Horizon, which
removed, we could send no vessels to France, Hot-
was not known
.in England when the Orders of Conn.
land, Italy, or the Baltic, or any place under the do-
cil were decided upon ; and that the American Go-
ruination of France. It is therefore of no consequencet
vernment, as soon as it had understood the French
to us, whether the Orders in Council are rescinded or
Kerr proceeding to act upon the decree against the
United States, opposed the encroachment by the
Embargo.
The British Cabinet had taken the Memorial into
consideration, and an answer was expected by Mr.
Pinckney in the course of a tew days. By the return
of the Hope, which, from her being a swift sailer,
may be expected in a very few days, our Government
will be made fully acquainted with the result ; so that,
on the meeting of Congress, if not before, we shall be
enabled to inform the Public of the final determina-
tion of the British Government, upon which will de-
pend, in a great measure, the future dispositions of
onr own. The probability is in favour of an amica-
ble adjustment of, differences. -
OcTOELit `.—The following Article is copied from
Mr. Madison's Paper of Tuesday last ; and as it is
in answer to a Paragraph in Mr. Jefferson's Paper, it
will be considered interesting.
FROM Tin,. lioNlTon.
The Editor of the National Inkiligencer, in announ•
cing the arrival of the last Dispatches from our Mi-
nister at London, concludes his statement with the
following remark :
" There is, however, one circumstance that may
produce some doubt of an early accommodation, to
wit ; the recent appearance of a pamphlet, attributed
to a ministerial M. 14 in which it is maintained to be
the interest of Great Britain still to continue her Or-
ders, notwithstanding France should repeal her De-

not.
If the Embargo is raised, itwill be because the first
cause of laying it is removed, and because the second
cause never will be removed. To be more explicit,
the Embargo was laid, first, to get home the property
that was abroad. This object has been as far accom-
plished as it ever will be. The property still abroad
has been unwarrantably laid hold of by Bonaparte
and Co. and there remains no hope of recovering it.
The first object of the embargo is then accomplished.l
The second r.:.tson for laying the Embargo was, to
humble the belligerents, or to starve them into com-
pliance. As we find, from ten months' experiences
that they never can be starved or humbled, then, ofl
course, THIS reascn for the Embargo also fails. Nei':
ther Frl.nee nor England will be the first in te.
moving their Decrees. What then is more reasona-
ble than to suppose, that the embargo will be raised,
very soon after the meeting of Congress ? For our
parts, we are astonished that any man of common
sense can believe for a moment that the Embargo will

continue.

Besides the above, there are numerous other tea.
sons for raising the Embargo ; one of which is that
the measure is a very unpopular one, as has been
evinced by the late elections. It may be said with
truth, that if, at the time, it was supposed that the
voting for a Democrat, would be the cause of conti-
nuing the Embargo, there would not have been a
single Democratic Candidate returned in a single.
town in the Union—so unpopular is the Embargo..
To close, our Cabinet, not being unchangeable,
and must raise the Embargo. Therefore the pur+
chase of produce, the loading of ships, and the ship-
ping of seamen, may go on without interruption.
NEW-YORK, OCTOBER 29.
The following remarks on the dispatches received
from Mr. Pinckney, by the Richard, are copied from Mr.
Madison's Monitor. The reader is requested to con.
crest this language with that published in the same
1 paper just previous to the termination of the elections
in Pennsylvania and New Jersey; at which time this
Isame Moniteur-man endeavoured to convince his
readers that there was no doubt of a speedy settle-
nsent with Great Britain. This same fellow may
DOW tell the truth, or he may lie—one is as probable
as the other. It is, however, a fact, that by his
lately holding up the idea that the differences with
England would soon be adjusted, while it was con-
sidered by many to be a base electioneering trick,
thousands of others commenced their commercial
operations, on an expectation of the Embargo being
soon raised ; who will, if he now tells the truth, be
ruined. For such conduct he deserves the public exe-
cration.

France, it is thought, will not relax her decrees ;
and the consequent enforcement of ,the Embargo
against her on our part, is, to all intents and purposes,
placing France in the same situation with regard to
us, as the Orders place her.
Hence, unless France will rescind her Decrees,
(and it is thought she will not) the British can have
PROM TIIX WASHINGTON MONITOR.
no pretext on that score to resist the amicable propo- Government have received dispatches from Mr.
sition of our Administration ; and the conclusion
Pinckney, our Minister at London, of the date of
drawn by the Editor of the National Ini.elligencer i
September 14. At that period he had not received
does not hold good. the expected answer to his representations to the Bri-
But suppose, after the proposal on our part to raise
fish Government.
the Embargo, Great Britain should reject the offer,
It would seem, from all we can learn, that. the
and resolve at all events to continue her Orders in I
I Cabinet of St. James is resolved not to furnish iti
Council, would not that be 1 confession in the face of 1
reply, by which it shall commit itself with our Co.
the whole world, that all the reasons assigned by the
vernment, either one way or the other, before it is too
English Government to oursifor imposing the Orders,
late for the intelligence to reach this country previ-
were hollow and insincere ?
• ously to the termination of the presidential election:
His Majesty (said Mr. Erskine, in substance), has i
and further, that Great Britain is influenced to such
issued the Orders in Council because you have not t
i strange conduct, by the expectation of an insurrection'
resisted the French Decrees.
, in the United States, which she is led to believe will
But we have resisted, and we will resist more .
occur from the supposition that the people of this
pointed, says our Executive.
country will not submit to the embargo when the
The reason, of course, falls with the British, and
ports of Spain and Portugal are known to be open to
they must repeal their Orders, or admit that they have
I them. And this policy Great Britain adheres to,
no pretence for enforcing them against us.
1 notwithstanding famine is staring her in the face !
Therefore the probability is, that there will be an
The citizens of United America will know how to
adjustment of differences; and if there is not, the '
appreciate and how to meet such conduct on the part
universe will bear testimony, that the Administration
of the English. If a foreign power is to choose a
has exhausted every means that could be devised for
president for us, there is an end to independence.
conciliating the British Government ; which, in
' NEW YORK, OCTOBER 31.
truth, will be as conclusive with the people of the }
The Administration papers, received by Tester.
United States as an adjustment itself, of the sincerity day's mail, breathe the most deadly hostility to
of their Government to preserve peace, and give vent
England.
to commercial enterprize.