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from Croydon to the metropolis. It had been alleged by Mr.
Austen that the Brighton Company would lose 13,0001. a year by
the throwing oft' the Croydon branch. But the thing was too
absurd to be entertained for a moment. If the Brighton Company
did not believe they would gain much, insteed of losing anything,
thee would be no parties to the projected scheme, which would cost
them 120,000/. The Learned Counsel then read population
returns, showing that 40,000 people would be benetitted by the
Wandsworth Extension. After some further observation?, the
Learned Counsel concluded by calling on the Committee to declare
the preamble of the Bill proved.
The room was the❑ cleared for deliberation, and after the lapse
of a few minutes, strangers were admitted, whereupon
Tt.e CHAIRMAN (addressing Mr Hill) said the Committee are
unanimously of opinion that the preamble of the Bill has not been
proved.
The Committee adjourned at five o'clock.

GROUP X.

LLNCOLN AND CAIVIERIDGNI RAILWAY.

The Committee sat to-day at twelve o'clock,

Mr. Joseph Machon, of Rinkston, Derbyshire, dealer in coals,
was the first witness called. The coal-fields in that neighbourhood
are most extensive, and equal to supply any demand; is well acquainted
with the various qualities of coals ; is of opinion that the Dukes-
mere and Winderworthmere coal was fully equal to the Durham,
and has no doubt but if this line were made the coals from these two
places would be consumed very extensively. The cost of Winderworth.
mere and Dukesmere coal at the pit's mouth was ss. 641. per ton, It
could be put on thersilway at Clay's-cross at ss. per ton extra. The
distance from Clay's-crssa to Rugby was seventy miles, and from
that, by the London and Birmingham Railway, was eighty-two
miles, making in all 152 miles.
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The CH A tamaw—That hac nothing to do with the Cambridge and
Lincoln Line.

Mr. Los—The London and York say they can supply coals from
the same places at a cheaper rate; we say they can not, for we
came in competition with them, and we want to show we can buy
those coals much cheaper. The London and York have also
taken credit for an increase of 290,0001. per annum by coal traffic
alone ; but we say they can receive no such sum, for we will
afford greater facilities for transit.
The witness then proceeded to say that the distance lie had
mentioned of 152 miles would cost 3s. 4d. per ton per mile for the
transit of coals, which would bring the price to 9s. fid., or to
14s. tid. to the merchant in London, exclusive of city dues, which
were Is. Id.; then there was 2s. 6.1. for delivery, and Ad. per ton
for the use of waggons, which would bring the price up to 19s. to
the public per ton, including all charges. The Wallsend
and Staley coal were near the coal fields already
mentioned, and 168 miles from London ; the price in Lon-
don of these coals to the public, including all charges, would
be 20s. ld. per ton. If the Silkston and Peterborough line be
made, the distance of the town from the coal-fields would be 93
miles. The coals could be sold in that town at 11s. 10d., includ
ing all charges. Stamford would be 81 miles by railway, and the
coal could be sold there at 113. The Erewash Valley coal-fields
were very extensive, and equal to any demand; they were situate
about nine miles from the Midland, near Derby. A Bill has
passed the House of Commons granting a line called the Erewash
Valley, which joined the Midland ; the Erewash coal was often
sold in London as the Durham coal ; the distance of the Erewash
from London was 131 miles, and that coal could be sold In Lon-
don at 18s. 3d., including all charge; the same coal could be sold at
Stamford at 9s. 6d., and at Peterborough at 10s. 3d. ; the distance
of the first was 60 miles, and the latter 73 miles from the Erewash
Valley Fie'd. Is quite certain that the London and York could
receive no such income as 290,0004 a year from coal traffic alone.
Mr. John Woodhouse, coal-viewer, was the next witness. His
deposition were unimportant, being merely corroborative of that of
Mr. Vachon.

Mr. Irish deposed that he had been employed as a traffic taker
for the wool trade, and that a great quant,ty of wool was brought to
London from Yorkshire, Leicestershire, Lancashire, &c., and the
expense of the transit of which would be greatly diminished if this
line were made.

Mr. J. P. Carpenter gave evidence as to the amount of road
traffic by coach, which bore out the testimony of Mr. Parks.

The CHAIRMAN here stated that the Committee would sit until
five o'clock, so that if Mr. Hildyard should not be present, Mr.
Lee, or some other counsel should be prepared to go on, as the
Committee would not adjourn before that hour.

Mr. LEE said he hoped to be able to close his case before that
hour.

Mr. Pinch, of Ipswich, was then called, but was not examined.
Mr. George Leather, C.E., deposed that he was well acquainted
with the course of the Witham and the proposed Loup Railway.
He deposed as to the height of the different bridges, and the extent
of space between the extremities of the arches, and the surface of
the water at the different heights of the tide, and of the water in
the canal above the different locks, in order to show the height
at which it was proposed to place the rails above the water surface.
Two other witnesses having been called, ooe of whom gave tes-
timony as to the population of certain districts,
Mr. HILDVARD said he was happy to announce that the case for
the Cambridge and Lincoln scheme had closed.
The Committee then adjourned at half.past five.

TAT TERSALL'S.—THIS EVENING.
Su o'ClA3clc.

GOODWOOD STAKES.
15 to 1 agst Pineapple
17 to 1 agst The Libel
20 to 1 agst Queen blab
20 to 1 agst Lightning

600.1400 D CUP.
3 to 4 agst Foig-a-ballagh.
7 to 1 agst Ironmaster
ST. LEGER.
6 to 1 agst Weatherbit
10 to 1 agst Mentor

MPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

(THIS EVENING.)

H OUSE OF LORDS.

Their Lordships assembled at the usual hour.
A great number of Railway Bills were brought up
i.om the House of Commons.
CORNWALL RAILWAY.

The Earl of ST. GERMAINS presented a petition
in favour of this railway.
NON-ATTENDANCE OF LORD GARDENER ON
THE GLASGOW-BRIDGE COMMITTEE.

The Duke of RICHMOND moved that the order of
their Lordships respecting the attendance of Lord Gar-
dener to explain his reasons for not attending the
Committee on:the Glasgow. bridge Committee, of which
he was a member, be read.

The Clerk having read the order,
Lord GARDENER said his non-attendance on the
Committee did not arise from any disrespect to their
Lordship?, arid if he had erred, it was from ignorance
of the power which they possessed. When he re-
ceived the notice, he was not aware of the consequences
which would result if he did not attend. He had also

his reasons for not attending—first, his ignorance of the
standing orders, and secondly, his objection, arising
from conscientious scruples against serving on any rail-
way Committee.—(A laugh.) Their Lordships might
laugh, but such was his opinion. Some years
ago, before the public were so deeply interested in
railways as at the present moment, he became a share-
holder in many of the trunk lines, and although he was
not interested in the subject in question, he, nevertheless,
considered that he was one of their Lordships who ought
to take no part in the railway schemes before them.
Another reason for his non-attendance was, that he
looked upon the order of the Noble Lord in the light
of an invitation, which he might either accept or refuse,
as suited his convenience. The Noble Lord was about
to read a notice of motion which he held in his hand,
when he was interrupted by
The Duke of RICHMOND, who said that before their
Lordships entered upon the consideration of anything
else it must first dispose of the question before the
House. He could not understand how the conscientious
scruples which the Noble Lord referred to as a reason
for not serving on Railway Committees could be pleaded
by him as a pretext tor absenting himself from the Com-
mittee to Ns. hich he had been appointed. It was not a
railway at all. It was the Glasgow-bridge Committee.
There was no partiality in the selection of any Noble
Lord by the Committee, whose province it was to appoint
the Members who are to serve upon the Select Commit-
tees. Quite the contrary, for the question was generally
asked them previously whether they would be willing to
serve upon the Committee. He thought that the Noble
Lord displayed great ignorance of what had been going on
in that House, when he alluded to the Right Reverend
Prelates. Ile could state that they had been always
most ready and willing to attend any Committee to
which their Lordships might think proper to appoint
them, and he could see no reason whatever for the
insinuation thrown out against them by the Noble Lord. He
thought, therefore, that as their Lordships were exempted
from serving on juries, from serving as councillors,
and as High-Sheriffs, that it would not be adding to
their high character if they shirked any duty which
the business of the country might impose upon them.
• (LEFT SITTING.)
RAILWAY BILLS.

The report of the Committee on Railway Bills was
brought up. It recommended that those Bills which
could not be completed this session, should be marked
by the Chairman of such Committee, and be proceeded
with next session from the point where the investigation
terminated this session.