The Sun.
London, England, 1827-09-25 00:00:00

RECORDER'S, COURT, DUBLIN, SEPT. 20. r

The RECORDER sat this day at the usual hour ;
Alderman Sir WM.- STAIVER and Ail. M'KENNY On
the Bench.

John 114Wonald was indicted for stealing six
silver tea-spoons, the-goods of Phoebe Fogarth.
Pbcebe Fogarth, an aged female, of respectable
appearance, examined—Lives at 18, Dorset-street;
keeps a fancy shop; :on the morning of the robbery,
she had left the spoons in question on the breakfast
table; two men entered the shop at the time, one
of whom was the prisoner ; his companion asked for
a pennyworth of quills; while witness, went round
by a long counter to give them to him, she missed
the prisoner, and in a few minutes after saw him
come out of the parlour in which she had left the
spoons; 'he immediately ran into the street, accom-
panied by the man Who had come in with him ; wit-
ness cried out." Stop thief;" immediately pursued
and took him into custody at the corner of Fre-
derick-street, but did not find the spoons on him.
Mr. BENNETT (prisoner's Counsel), apparently
to a Solicitor who sat next him, mentioned the
words—" 7000—" Peter Oates." 'Witness (in a
passion)—l know nothing about 700/. ; I came here
for the sake' of public justice, and will not be in-
sulted by such observations; you are a rogue and a
liar, . so you are."
COURT—L.Hearken, witness, listen to the Court,
you are now on your solemn oath. Witness—.I am
not; I don't care about the Court. (To Mr.
B—) How dare you insult .me; you are a bad
ma'n ; you came here to side with a rogue, and
make you confess it.
Witness cross-examined by Mr. BENNETT---She
is a widoW; does not know whether there is ally
other widow in Dublin whose husband is alive.—
(Laughter.) Is sure her's is dead.
Counsel—On your oath, where is Mr. Fogarth
now ? Witness—" I hope he is in glory, where
you'll never be."—(Laughter.)
Counsel—Well, we will say nothing 'more about
the 700/. Witness—You may tell all you know
about it.

Counsel—Well, I will, since you desire it. On
your oath were you ever charged by a man of the
name of Peter Oates with robbing him of 700/. ?
Witness—Never, upon my oath. •

Counsel—Are you not short-sighted ? Witness
—My sight is not very good.
Counsel—Very well. Witness—Very well, your-
self.—(Laughter.) •
Counsel—Will. you swear that the prisoner at the
bar is one of the two persons who entered your shop
on the morning in question ? Witness—l swear
that he is the person whom I caught and brought
back to my shop on that morning.
Counsel—That won't do. How old are you ?
Witness—(Apparently on the verge of 70)—I P.m
upwards of 15.—(Laughter.)
Counsel—Tell me precisely what may be your
age ? Witness—l'll not swear to my age. •
Counsel—Why ? •do you expect to get another
husband ? Witness—Aye, half a dozen. ,
• COunsel—Were you ever married to Peter Oates?
Witness—Never, on my oath (in a violent passion);
I'll bear this no longer—let the prisoner loose—turn
him out-471l quit the Courts

Here witness was about to leave the table, but
being with considerable difficulty induced to remain,
Counsel resumed—Although but 16 years of age,
how were you able to overtake that boy, who seems
at least to be two years older ? Witness--I cross-
cutted him, but you may let the rogue run away now.
Counsel—Well, Mrs. Fogarth; not give you
any further trouble at present.—WitnesS : Indeed I
believe it is better for you not; but I'll give you
further trouble, indeed I ;will—you--(going off
the table). I'll make you suffer .for this, though
you stand there With your big wig on you, taking
the part of rogues and thieves against honest people;
you got a guinea to day, but, God help you, you
unfortunate, you'll want half a guinea to-ruorrow,—
(Laughter,)
Here another prisoner, charged with a felony of table
linenrwas produced from the deck, to prove ati
for the prisoner.
Mary Peyton, the .prisoner's mother, was then.
.- called to character--She deposed, that her son
bore a good character in his own faMily, excepting
that he had been once before, indeed, tried for felony.
Mr. Wilson,- the deputy:governor of 13ridewell,
was called 'to character---He said that the prisoner
behaved himself quietly while in his custody.
The Jury returned a verdict, finding the prisoner
" Guilty."—Sentence not passed.—Dublin Evening
Post. •

NEW CATTTOLTC ASSOCIATION,

STEPHEN WOOLF, Esq. in the Chair.
Seveiid Letters and Census Returns were read.
Catholic Rent since last return 504 Gd.

SEPARATE, MEETING OF CATHOLICS.

COUNSELLOR FOGARTY, in the Chair.

Mr. CONWAY addressed the Chair in a few words.
After reading the Requisition which convened the
Meeting, he said it fell to his lot, as the originator
of the measure, to . lay before them a Resolution,
which, he thought, called for by the present circum-
stances of the Country, as well as by the position in
which the Catholics stood, in regard to their political
friends. His resolution, in the formation of which
the gentlemen whose names were signed to the Re-
quisition concurred, would, be a declaration as to the
necessity of pressing the Catholic Petition at am
early, period next 'Session. He would not dilate on
the reasons which influenced the Requisitionists to
come.to this resolution;as the argument would rest
in far better hands—those of his Learned Friend,
Mr. Sheil, who would second the motion.—(Cheers.)
—He then read the Resolution to the above effect.

Mr. SUM. was received, in rising, with immense
cheers. He, said the present crisis was of great im-
portance to the Catholics; although the immediate
time for .petitioning was not arrived, the time for
beginning to concentrate the energies of the country
was, now; they would have to consider the effect
of the Resolution now proposed would have on the
English mind and on the Legislature; but while they
ought to conciliate the English prejudices, and con-
sult their pride, they should sutler no relaxation of
the public mind ; postponement and moderation
have , already been tried in vain. Mr.' Sheil then
entered into a history of the Catholic Associations,
from the year_ 1521, and showed the good effects
which arose &dna a perseyeranee in continued efforts.
He might be told that it would embarrass theirfriends
in the Cabinet, but he would not say the Catholics
were not yet so reduced as to be like the prisoners
in the black-hole of Calcutta, who were let to perish
lest the Raja should be awoke out of his. sleep. He
(Mr. Sheil) would say rather " awake England with
this knocking." At all hazards, he would. persevere ;
if he was to be treated as a dog, he would rather be
chained as the bull-dog, than beaten as the fawning
spaniel.—(Hear.)—He urged a communication to be
kept up with the Parish Priests; which, through those
learned men would bringthe whole mass of the popular
tion of Ireland into one moral movement—he desired
to be understood as not meaning the' physical but the
moral strength of the people; he thought the peo-
ple should not approach Parliament in the attitude
of a political Paul Pry, and say—" Ha my Lords.
we hope we don't intrude." They should come for-
ward like men demanding to be free—they should
come respectfully, and show the Legislature the
raal state of the country and the unanimity of her
people, and then they should draw themselves up
erect and demand their liberty. He did not in the
slightest degree suspect the present Ministry, on the
contrary, he reposed his complete.confidence in them,
but although he had confidence in Lord Lansdowne,
in Mr. Tierney, in Lord Glsiderich--yet, there was
one thing he had still more confidence in than even
these—lie had more confidence in the spirit and
union of seven millions of Irishmen.

Mr. DWYER .congratylateh the meeting on the re-
appearance of Mr. Sheil. He said he would rather
appeal to the good sense, than the fears of England,
and doubted the propriety of strong language in ap-
pealing to the physical force of the country.
Mr. WOOLP, after a protracted • call from the.
Meeting, came forward and saidthat: after the
splendid speech of Mr. Sheil, he had nothing to say
upon the question before the chair, but he would.
simply remark, that. he 'thought Mr. Dwyer
boured under a mistake in his conception of the lan-
guage -of Mr. Shell's, speech, in which' he (Mr.
W.) heard nothing that could be in the remotest
manner construed into a threat towards England.
He would reiterate, that England would at length
be foreed_to grant justice to Ireland; but he did
not mean by the cannon or pike, but by the force
of events—by the natural strength of the cause it-
self. Situated as Ireland is;
,she cannot use a cold
and a tame Janguage, which would, in fact, be con-
strued into a luke-warmness on her part; he never
knew an instance where a man considered the Ca-
tholic Question attentively, that he did not see the
justice and necessity of granting those claims ; or if
he entered into the subject full of bigotry, who did
not loose the
.most, if not all, of the uncharitable
feeling as he proceeded : when compulsion towards
England is mentioned, it could be no other than
moral compulsion that c9uld be meant. He en-
tirely agreed with his' friendl Mr. Conway and Mr.
Sheil on the necessity of the immediate and con-
stant agitation of the Catholic Question in Parlia-
Ment. Ireland could not retrograde—she could not
stand still. The Learned Gentleman proceeded to
demonstrate, by strong facts, the growing wealth of
the Irish Catholics, and its great increase Within
the last twenty years, and drew from the conclusion
that it combined with the growing intelligence of
the people what would work emancipation, even-
tually. : _ _ _

Mr. SyEtr, explained at some length, after which
the Meeting, which was extremely full; adjourned.
There were several English' Gentlemen present.
—Dublin Evening Post.

NORWICH MUSICAL FESTIVAL.-- The
Grand Musk Meeting, which took place at Norwich last
week, Was extremely well attended, and the various per-
formauces went off well, Madame Pasta, Caradori, Misses
Bacon, ,Farren, and Stephens, Messrs: Brabant, Vaughan,
Terrail,' E. Taylor, and Zuchelli, were• the principal vo-
calists,

•
THE WESTERN ROAD.—A plan is now
under consideration for making a new road from the Ux-
bridge-road, 'near Shepherd's Bush, to iun..north of Brent-
ford and Hounslow. The great traffic on the road from
Kensington to Hounslow will admit of the road projected,
and it is said the coach-masters will be ready to promote
the undertaking, for the Purpose of avoiding the great in-
jury their property sustains in the passage through the
narrow rough ways of Brentford. The intended read is
to pass near the house of Sir R. Birnie, at Acton-green.

The walls of the Old College Library are now
almost completely levelled, though the rubbish is not en-
tirely carried away. The removal ..1 this unsightly mass
leas already produced one improvement, by letting in light
upon the grand entry, and exposing the classical front of
the museum, which catches the eye of passengers on the
street, through the gateway. The interior of the College,however, which is incomparably finer than the exterior,
ill not
he seen to advanta e' till the masons' 81,013 and g
other in •
eualbrauces are removed, and the area properly le"
veiled ; and this of course, cannot be accomplished before
the session opens. The greater part of the books are placed
,
for the present in the Graduation Hall, on temporary 1
shelves, till the new library is completed.—Scotch Paper.
We are gipven to understand that an improve-
ment on the principles of ship-building is at this moment
.
under consideration. The master ship-wrights of his
Majesty's different dock-yards are now in attendance
at the Navy-office, Somerset-house, for the purpose of aid-
ing and consultive on its feasibility. We are glad to find
,
that the assistance of those able and men is at
practical
High Admiral,
on
length called in. Amongst them we shall hope to find
Mr. Roberts of Pembroke dock-yard, a most ingenious
and scientific builder, whose plans and inventions have
already
Milford,
as public.so s
tTr
obeek Lordwi:h the appearance
of some of Mr. R.'s models, that he ordered them to be
sent to the Admiralty. ,

INQUEST ON M. LE MASSON.--Yesterday
evening, about half-past six o'clock, the inquest was re-
sumed on the body of the above unfortunate gentleman,
whp was killed in the Strand on Friday evening, by falling
from a cabriolet.--The Jury, after a short deliberation,
said that they were convinced that, his death was purely
accidental, and retured a verdict to that effect,—Deodand,
One Shilling.' •

The troops to be inspected .at Newcastle, by
the Duke of Wellington, are the garrisons of that town,
and of Tynemouth and Sunderland, and the South Tyne
Hussars and Northumberland Cavalry. An immense con-
course of ,ipectatorS, from all parts of the country, is ex-
pected to be 4swmbled to witness the review.
Chronicle. —D arhani

ORIGINAL LETTER of GENERAL 'WASH-

INGTON.

MOUNT VERNON, MAY 16, 1785.

Dear,Sir,—ln for a penny, in for a pound, is an
old adage. lam so hackneyed to the touches of
the painter's pencil, that I am now altogether at their
beck, and sit like patience on a monument, whilst
they are delineating the lines on my face.
It a proof among others, of what habit and
custom can effect. At first I was as impatient at
the request, and as restive under the operation, as a
colt is of the saddle. The next time I submitted
very rehictantly, but with less flouncing. Now, no
dray moves more readily to the thills than I do to
the painter's chair. It may easily be conceived,
therefore, that I yielded a ready obedience to' your
request, and to the views of Mr. Pine.
Letters from. England, recommendatory of that
gentleman, came to my hands previous to his arrival
in America—not only as an artist of acknowledged
eminence, but as one who had discovered a friendly
disposition towards this country, for which, it seems,
lie had been marked.

It gave me pleasure to hear from you ; I shall
always feel an interest in your happiness; and with
Mrs. Washington's compliments and best wishes,
joined to my own, for Mrs. Hopkinson and yourself,
I am, dear Sir, your most obedient and affectionate
humble servant,

GEORGE WASHINGTON.

Francis Hopkinson, Esq.

SPORTING ENTELIAGENCE.

TATTERSALL'S.-SErT. 24.

A scene of the busiest nature presented itself here to-day,
but although the goldfinches and waste paper were flying
about lice chaff, still a great many of the nobs were back-
ward in coming forward, and the consequence was, that
" the little" and the " middle men" were not prepared to
square their engagements. This failure, however, may be
attributed to the " big ones" not having all arrived in town.
Thursday, however, will be decisive, and it would be un-
Lir to announce any defaulters at present. Many who had
settled at Doncaster were left in the lurch here, and the
usual assortments of long faces was the natural result.—
The winners might be selected by the waggery of their
movements, and a distinguished loser was observed with
one of his *hiskers the wrong way upwards. The only
bets made were these :

DERBY.—'7 to 1 agst The Colonel.
Sr. Li:GER.—The Colonel is first favourite, but no odds
offered-2,600 to 200 agst Bessy Bedlam (taken); 2,000
to 50 agst The Colonel, for Derby and St. Leger (taken).
OAKS.—Trampoline is the favourite.

BRECONSIIIRE RACES..--THURSDAY, SETT. 20.
These races have been very well attended, in conse-
quence of the famous Newmarket horse, Trumpeter, who
was so high a favourite for the Derby, and Clematis, the
Oaks filly, being entered to run. The running was as
follows : •
The Gold Cup, value 100 gs., given by ife Town, added
to a Sweepstakes of sgs. each.
Mr. Haffenden's Trumpeter, 3 yrs 1 1
Mr. Pickernell's Miss Eversley, 3 yrs 2 2
Mr. Thorne's Forester Lass, 6 yrs 3 dr
Major Parry's ch. in. by Soothsayer, 5 yrs 4 dr
3 to 1 on Trumpeter, who won easy.
A Free Plate of 501. Heats, two miles.
Mr. G. Walter's Prude, 5 yrs
• Mr. Giffard's Billy Lackaday, 3 yrs
Mr. Thorne's Forester Lass 3 dr
Mr. Phillips's Cletnatis, 3 yrs
Mr. Evans's ch. f. by Piscator, 3 yrs 5 dr

The Usk Stakes of 5 soya. each, and 20 added, was
won by Mr. Williams' Cholstrey Lass, beating Mr. Guest's
Tenbury Lass, and four others.
FRIDAY.—The Members' Plate of 501. Heats, two miles.
Mr. Haffenden's Trumpeter - 1 1
Mr. Thorne's Forester Lass
Mr. Parry's ch., in. by Soothsayer S dr
• A Handicap of 5 sous, each, and 40 added.

Mr Gifford's Billy Lackaday 4 3 1 1
Mr. Thorne's Forester Lass • • 2 1. 2
Mr. Pickernell's Miss tversley - 1 2 Sdr

Alr. Parry's ch. m. by Soothsayer ... 3 dr
The Mute& Stakes of 5 sovs. each, and 20 added, was
Wert by Mr. Guest's Tenlmry Lass, heatiug three others,

LIMERICK RACES.--SATultoiY, SEPT. 15.
Sweepstakes of 'lO sovs. each, awl 50 from' the Stewards.

Heats, two miles.
Mr. Blake's Napoleon
Mr. Hunter's Coeur de Lion 3 2 •
Mr. Hunter's Gureiolli
Fifty sovs. given by Thomas Lloyd, Esq., M.P. Heats,

two miles.

Mr. Blake's Napoleon
Mr. Leech's ch. h.

1 1
2 2

MONDAY.-Fifty sovs. given by the Hon. Colonel Fitz-
gibbon, M.P. Heats, two miles.
Mr. Creagh's Crockford
Mr. Lyons's eh. f.
Mr. Scully's Sylvan ls

1 1
3 2
2 3

Sweepstakes of 3 sous. each, and 50 sows. by the Stewards.
Heats, two miles.
Mr. Hunter's Cceur de Lion , 2 .1 1 ,
Mr. Blake's Gorilla 1 2 2
Three others' distanced

Tursnay.-7Sweepstakes 5 sovs. each, GO soy& added by
the Stewards. Once round.
Mr. Blake's Napoleon 1 1
Mr. Bingham's O'Fie 2 dr
Mr. Blake's filly, 3 dr
The Hunter's Plate was won by Mr. Creagh's Crock-
ford, beating Mr. Kelly's Captain Rock.