The Sun.
London, England, 1845-06-05 00:00:00

The s emu,
Adjounm u,l*ake.r being announced to be at prayers, the Committee
ntil to-moi row.

Tga
ivr GROUP V.
buz---7.-.J7.....CRE5T,"12., CHEST Litrxxx.r), AND
%mw
--",o 33 3-UNCTION EAILWA YS. THE
vi...--•••• LINCOLNSHIRE ALTERNATIVE
E.
kenabe
418 N--The Chairman, the O'Conor Don, Sir Denham Nor.
~J°l3n Rae Reid, Mr. Davies, and Mr. Hope Johnstone.
den,: vaturnittee proceeded this morning to receive further evi-
ivu, the alternative line.
re evidence Wu of the same uninteresting character as before.
the INao Vickers spoke to the injury which would be done to
tqw.a and cattle rnarket in Shcffield if the Chesterfield and
ii7,l Railway were allowed to be constructed.
t'aili°tLrnsd" Dunn Jeffcott, coal valuer, Sheffield—He was well ac.
%the with the coal fields in the neighbourhood of Sheffield and
lioes of the Chesterfield and Sheffield and of the Lincoln-
e Railway The coal on the latter line was of a much
NI Useful quality for manufacturing purposes, and could be more
!Nl:ached , the nearest vein on the other line being six miles
liskCe town of Sheffield. There was no converting coal at Dron-
A rik
miouNod tuber of witnesses gave similar evidence, and the Committee
at four o'clock.

84A, GROUP W.
Th„ :ON AND GOOLE MAXI:WAY.
It `ftnraittee en this line met at twelve to-day, Mr. Pakington
Ife,ichalc• The Hon. Mr. Maxwell, the Hon. Mr. Bouverie,
jr ore, and Lord Seymour were also present.
to the "QRLts, on the part of the promoters, resumed his address
hoe sheemomittee. He contended that the Brayton and Goole
merits is Pass irrespective of any other line, for it had independent
slime of its own_
would develop the general resources, and espe-
Istieronsole the extension of the traffic in coals and lime of a
most Lact of country, that was hitherto isolated and crippled to a
-4°.mos extent, in consequence of having no outlet for its
sadprer'o„ c• The Learned Counsel pressed this point at great length,
thepnded to say that the cost of the line would only be 1 00,000/.,
Nebes't Pained over a tract of country where no gentleman's
sphol: would be destroyed—no park or place interfered with in
tsd;conrse. The Committee should not hesitate fora moment
th al' Propriety of passing the line. But when he compared it
akt,
- cmmeeting line (the proposed Wakefield, Pon-
th-gas kid 7 Goole line) as a communication with Wake-
ophc,.°l4, Leeds, and the west, he considered that it had
.lor Made it greatly superior. In the first p!ace, only twelve
oetso„-,_"'e would berequired to be constructed, while by the
Coal ther miles. The cost would
100 would be twenty-seven
:°°l., while the cost of the other would be 350,0001.
tb.lerable""ond place, it possessed gradients far more
eous; l'hich even by the admission of its opponents, more
-soh, 47‘erbalanCed the three miles which it exceeded the other
tiffumnaa to Wakefield. When he also considered that it
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ame le Is; accommodation and facility of conveyance to the
k 44ezakefield, Leeds, and all the towns to the west, that
kiWils,.. Z. been in the habit of importing and exporting
Zne.wloZ7 Hull, the advantages which it presented were in-
Oiern. than those of the Wakefield, Pontefract, and Goole
ended
;Ice grounds, thertfore—cheapness, gradients, accom-
.nd.,' advantage to the general traffic of the country—he
/141 not 14 the Wakefield, Pontefract, and Goole line
ds, th. °l' a moment to be compared with R.
opi'l k` Committee would, in the face of the evi-
P%allttZt bad been adduced to prove these facts, be of
474 - had not such a superiority over the Wakefield
.and
,(4outi;,4 a communication with the manufcturing districts,
that he had brought forward evaidence sufficient
Zeeb,,the Committee to grant the line on its own
it%
wii.trafge. 'faking all these advantages into. account,
is,,We ° the trifling expense which the construction of the
ZillitLecttr. the Committee, he was sure, would exercise a
till,-11Wiss.,,F,atM in passing the Brayton and Goole Railway, whether
%h"tissh,_ the Wakefield, Pontefract, and Goole line or not.
p e-1711, the case of the promoters of the line.
of
ite."posibWax then asked Mr. Bliss, who appeared onbehalf
-141 IC landholders on the line, whether he would bring for-
tY Witnesses
I:lthtllitePlied that he would not adduce any evidence, but
Ne %trill •
sown of the Committee he would address them on
ars clients. IrL4l
os,:wtl itt,, Ce
'"Art then ordered the room to be cleared, and re-
-wloiott deliberation for three quarters of an hour. On our re-
CW
It% t. 1144R4 -aN told Mr Bliss to proceed with his address.
hires
went on to comment on the evidence which had
madeforward, and contended that no case whatever had
Ilikttleol:Ut. on the part of the promoters of the Brayton
wis line for cutting up the property of his clients.
say
_no evidence of a satisfactory character to show that it
.u"its on the ground of independent traffic. It was a
1%7 of helcoatuitous assumption on their part. Along the whole
Orio ee:e Miles there was only one mile on which the land..
stiNentte:e favourable to it. There was eight miles
ke.atlrsto t's and three miles, on which the parties were neutral,
tceitepe rned no answer. When the Committee c,nsidered that
thjabliestv4l'eadY five lines of railway intersecting and cutting.up
of the Hon. Mr. Petre, and when they considered
oh. a° that was offered by the other landholders, and that
ttstlitsto -4; another line proposed which would afford all
10,44 ts°dation which the Brayton and Goole would give, he
ItweLtkph7.at there was no case whatever made out for the line.
ItrZe 0147 Counsel then proceeded to analyse the tables of
4Cc14., ..b.ead been made, and contended that they were all
d, -- greatly exaggerated. Tl.e whole receipts would not,
mr„,-;tkrit to within 4001. of the cost of management. How
Ss /Net ut,,,Was the course pursued by the promoters of
4414,
the their
ttoeheir,o,triastionetefract, and Goole line in the construe-
tables. The greatest care had been taken.
4tfttnele CoroDtocure accurate and Incontrovertible information,
%sir llisnalittee would recollect what an enormous amount of
kOttokle proved as already existing, and to be anticipated, on
tutt,.°e Learned Counsel then referred to Mr. Hudso.n
Ns.> ori.m.esPeet to the proposed line, and. said that the project
1:."11,14 tlit-44ed with him, to promote his own interest and
L',l3olk th cornpanies with which he was connected. He
em,,a Committee whether it was right air to the
; 'Klan to have such a preponderatingpp
het -r any one man
4111Morpcommunication of the country.
~.,1-41f.,,Was then cleared, and the Committee remained in
half-an-hour On our re-admission
"ads said that the Committee could not come to a
N'-v`.lteit it being then past four o'clock, and they had not
'oe co ttst,;,ries.
4 advebZitle:l,,the,an. asked if he would have. permission to address
di The Cr hill, toils to any decision being come to that would
"e,o tor N-4 or admit the Brayton and Goole line?
.
ks,"'lleeisA said that in the case assumed by Mr. Wilkins
s?Zli*ii-p~rpvedLthenaoni 81ve him the permission. he required.
a%) Isa°Bed that, after the decision to-morrow, the
hR 4d- Preeeed with the clauses of which line was
and a%. WoUld not enter upon the consideration of the
-,Orstkitt °Ole line till Monday.
ea Olen adjourned till twelve o'clock to-morrow.

Eoh.v, GROUP X.
th: 'view --I'CON AND YORK LINE. .
04iblinte,
of , assembled at half-past twelve o'clock, and took
ef's,lirdowners who. oppose the preamble of the Bill,
toy their .„ the proposed line passing through
.their estates,
•'°Undo, garden., views, and intruding on their
IN4seli
vsaiShg phis solicitor and agent to Lord Scarborough, produced
itt SrlikBB °f his Lordship's estates, and showed the spot
the pro
h Posed line was to pass. .
L 46.71 414 "'..0 surveyor, deposed as to the precise nature of
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"11d Ise done, and the amount of land that would
t:1114 WI !tell as the farms, grounds, &c., that would be in-
„,_"alltets:l4ll bY the line.
isltceSt the
occupied a considerable time,
B'loll that the cuttings, embankments, encroach-
-01014 at:,414 not be so extensive or so injurious in effect as
Its s• ""Peseed to anticipate. When his evidence had
St‘iks, „,b4,
S-eals°l,3,, said that on the part of Lord Scarborough he
tait:lts, -,'"l More witnesses. He would now wish to know
tt.skr.:, .1
was intended to *pursue by his Learned Friends
tottl ‘01.„
/41,411 sbt°. sTarcli__lbe London and York Company would be willing
Isetions. borough on the most liberal terms, and obviate
jhet),„„ If his Learned Friend had closed his case then,
't`s.,ollet•ile-i".°113 address a few
herobsevations on the case he had
st.4titaks;Zas still fresh in minds of the Committee.
4,24 it then, after a short consultation with the Com-
iaN7B. 111-0°,_414 be. more convenient if Mr. Denison would
0, case. ..,ervatlons he wished to offer upon Lord Scar-
Slt bitheo and then the opposite counsel could either reply
tt;sts.,„" cattle to make his generalstatements.
qttLISOII,-41176
beeeltthe.4 Proceeded to speak
the
the beauty of Lord
licit
_. He contended that eautyboenfuttlyiat pro_
cßoy,sisitiott b. surpassed by any in England ; a which
lt,kskte dea'tr"Tnes but which no future time could restore if
the
thb, °Yed it would be, by the innovation proposed to
pareolnt7sv railroad, which it was alleged was called
ltsst;'oOly claims of the public convenience. The road
%tit,* 4,4.4 tla his estate asunder, but it would deprive him,
v4/-4_ll iat Portion of his estate which. he
.was wont to
c'Stitio`qs, creation and that of his family, friends,.
1/4111 it,„.° ndePendent of the many objections to this
as.mi lastrivate grounds, he would contend for it that,
04 ZDtoua ilroUnds his Learned Friends opposite
thhat this ;ould be the most convenient
.and
/81:4 isver ave
beneersen laidproduced ; b out. He (Mr. Denison) had. ex.
t but it did not appear
- 4etie
or al engi4 theus had ever been over Lord Scarborough's
481,
ty~rlh„l' ;
17its01,-,4cted to his Learned Friend entering upon the
4~ the it
oY t_he ease.
tv,2-011a,i,,'eolltelided he had a right to do so, and to oc-
t,74th: the ;,4e for three weeks if he pleased.—(Laughter)—
!la'N,,,"ia ~`"°lttaittee from London to York, and speak
o; eli-te t• every mile of the line, for he originally
torirCisition to the preamble of the Bill, as well as on
nttvt Weer catborough
It • "tse a •
eed with Mr. Denison, and requested him to
44it t„ t:l4
° did
thow ". He contended that no evidence had been
ltslS's otbi "ccUrately the amount of injury that would be
, e
client's tb that if property, and therefore he was warranted
d
hkkat feet the London and York Company
.cou
It" it - that .they had intentionally and wilfully
)4,l,,siss
hat The only person who. cou,lid
11,k7.
aii.sthe epld bank, but he had not been pioducic.
tpt th: Uone
ofee on this point was of a very general elm-
hai Isithi the witnesses could say that the line wen.t
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ea° two miles of the house, while in fact it
titno,Z tt,e „.°
•Mr. Wightman had been asked
is% 'Os pro of the injury that would be done to Lord
bol4,ylll:,trictt„°PertY, and he said the injury would be entirely
..‘ever "441 oharac no residential in-
srattid ,ers and that
th_N, 4to be done. Now he (Mr. Denison)
Vilt4ati of °r; it that the injury was entirely re-
\ „Phk, very serious and injurious character.
hst4 ra,,‘.-"' vs' 00i"..Scarborough at present had various modes of
Ircata his house--by private pathways and
ISL jet th
alt e ,ithkto "t going on the road, or being ex-
t;4, eoT;t::lit ; but this proposition so completely
Nit Nil v• Unication, that his Lordship and his
tat_ clt a alltors could reach the wood from his house only
10 'l) 1.81 °r over •
la, a let Lk., *4„ a bridge where there was a cutting.
ss °or% " elven to hunting, but he had not yet been
as_Nfijle Ti.4l an.,•"ciently broken in to stand the puff
liot-etts'r• t7ne*---(Laughter ) With such an in_
stit sation enni,
-"'") would ask was 561. an acre
•40,Ille:8,?°Pet4,°.- What amount of money could be said to be
ikliquisOieesia.„'ls4 P The Learned Counsel having recapitu-
kof th'uftlei,n,6 evidence at some length, concluded that he
, VoUnds for establishing the fact that the pre_So 8544 84 not bee
to .4 40a, Mao oiled
n proved,
qfloe„stt a.. 44 upon Mr. Paget to reply.
1,4,1'14,7: the d do so, though he would rather not.
tileZgittieu of the Committee, he would proceed. to
• 48s1'1‘8MIske,t8s Yret:ol-; rd Scarborough's case. He was willing
t 0 sit
ill? "tate t to the extent of the supposed injury
kls.4BY so Welker. 0 be as they had been stated by Mr.
1, Its ',co Of His (Mr. Paget's) clients were willing
lie,4!, his eoProaehes that should be deemed necessary to
s. lb
44dieiss fUrthred4rhitP:s farm that should be severed by the
s. lb let. they were willing to make a tunnel
zoo, St hi `alag, wa, so very deep as to be objectionable.
4of +4'44. behalf of Sir Wm. Milner, next rose—He
h Bho Use
4.1 *ell he ttee4
o_sWas situated on a very beautiful site, in
thk the asst 1,400wn t.,°l! say that it was at one time a
.nunnfthys,
%It I.Ntlikernarka'd, the nunneries and monasteries o
4,-414,5.°)e orkebt conefor the beauty of their sites. Some time
4 tai74 ceived the public convenience demanded
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sys called the York and North Midland,
mtioe"lo the'"rnl4 client's estate, and the result was, that
f ottly"ate was taken up by that railway, and at
ktoitta t" Miles and a half from the house,
on an
estate that had cost 72,0001. He