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of Sir Richard Phillips, but nothing of material importance was
elicited.

Mr. WHITMORE, who appeared on behalf of the Welsh Midland
Railway, was objected to being heard. The oblation was allowed.
Mr. Sergeant WRANGIIANI then proceeded to cross-examine the
witness on behalf of Mr. Place, a landowner.
Mr. DAVIES, of Gloucester, cross-examined Mr. Brickland on
behalf of the Rev. Mr. Jones, a landowner, and possessing an in-
terest in the Forest of Dean Railway.

Mr. Stainton, manufacturer at Stroud, was next ezamined
by Mr. BENSON—He knew the line of the South Wales Railway,
and was of opinion that, from the facilities it would afford for
the conveyance of coa!s into Stroud, they would be cheapened
nearly one-half of their present price. The population that would
be benefited from the diminution in the price of coal from the
proposed railway was upwards of 50,000.

In answer to a question from Sir PHILIP RIDLEY, Mr. Stainton
replied that he had heard the Admiralty had interfered with the
proposed erection of a bridge across the Severn for the purposes
of the railway.

On cross examination by Mr. LAW, he said he did not con.
sidur the navigation of the river would be injured by erecting the
bridges.

Mr. Nathaniel Marley concurred entirely with the statements
of the last witness.

Mr. Fisher was next examined—He state,' he had been exten-
sively engaged in preparing traffic tables for several railway com-
panies, and had made up the traffic tables for the South Wales
Railway, in conjunction wills Mr. Buckland. He had heard the
testimony of that gentleman, and entirely agreed with him in his
statements of the traffic.
The Committee adjourned till twelve to-morrow.

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however reluctantly he did so, ho felt bound to call upon his
Learned Friend to state now the course he intended to pursue.
Mr. litt.ni•Aßo said he was surprised at such an intimation.
The Committee had intimated that they would report to-night
to the House that the preamble of the Bill had not been proved ;
and, therefore, all he wanted was to adjourn until tomorrow
morning, in order that he might proceed with it as a Bill, if such,
should In the course determined upon.
The CHAIRMAN, after a few minutes' consultation with the other
Members of the Committee, announced that they had acceded to the
application, and would now adjourn to twelve o'clock to -:r orrow,
but on the understanding that there was to be no further ad.
journment.

IM} ER A L PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF LORDS, June 10.
Their Lordships assembled at the usual hour:
Messengers from the Commons brought up several Bills,
which were read a first time.
MAYNOOTH.
Petitions against the grant to Maynosth were presented by
the Duke of Buckingham, the Earl of Rattner, and Lord
Campbell.

was so much to be desired, it would not he asking too much
from her Majesty's Government to introduce a Bill foe that
purpose. That, or something similar, would 1 e found to be
the most effectual, as well as satisfactory, mode of securing
the peace and good feeling of the Irish people; and he hoped
that before the present session expired they would bring for-
ward a measure of that. kind.
Earl FITZWILLIAH was sure that her Majesty's Govern-
ment ought to feel grateful to the Noble Earl for bringing for-
ward the subject which he had just introduced to their notice.
It was one which they should take up, and which fol-
lowed almost as a necessary consequence after the step
which they had just taken. He had formed a very
erroneoucjudgment of the ability of her Majesty's Government
if they did not follow up the measure which was now before
their Lordships by other measures of a conciliatory nature, and
above all by the measure which had just teen referred to by
the Noble Earl. He did not assent to the proposition of taking
the money for that purpose from the consolidated fund ; and
he believed that the Catholic clergy would persist in refusing
to take such a payment. His plan was not exactly the same,
but was nearly of a similar kind to that proposed by the Noble
Earl. The income of the clergy of the Protestant Church in
Ireland might ba now somewhat smaller than it was, and there

was no doubt that it was so ; but it was no longer
levied in kind, and the poor were altogether exempted from the
payments which were formerly exacted from them. With re-
spect to the mode of paying the Catholic clergy he thought
they should be placed en the same footing exactly as the Fro-
testant clergy. As they were not married men it might not,
indeed, be necessary to give them the same amount of income,
but in his opinion they were placed on precisely the same
footing. It would be impossible to get rid of the feeling which
such inequality would give rise to in the minds of both the
clergy and people of Ireland. He would therefore propose that
whatever would remain to make up their income, after the
twenty-five per cent. was allotted to them, should be made up
by an additional charge on the land. He begged to apologise
to their Lordships for having occupied their attention again on
the measure before the House, but as the question of the
endowment of the Catholic clergy had been introduced he
thought it desirable to state the opinions which he entertained
upon that subject.
Lord CAMPBELL said, that as he had been referred to by
the Noble Earl, he felt inclined to make a few remarks, but,
looking to the state of the House, and to the omens of adjourn-
ment which it indicated, he would postpone anything he had
to say till a future siege of the Bill.

Lord CLANCARTY said that he would not press his
amendment to a division, and he would therefore, with their
Lordships' permission, withdraw it. He admitted having op.
posed a measure of a similar nature while he sat in the House
of Commons, but things and circumstances had changed since
then. Ireland had long existed in an excited state, and the
present measure was introduced as an earnest of their willing-
ness and desire to deal fairly and liberally with the people of
that country. Reserving to themselves the ostion of intro-
ducing larger measures whenever an opportunity or occasion
should present itself, they had thought it better to bring in this
Bill in the first instance, to convince the people of Ireland that
they wished to deal with them rather on conciliatory than on
coercive principles.
The Marquis of BR EADALBANE was sure the speech of
the Noble Lord would have a due effect upon the sister country ;
but he believed the people of England would not be gulled by
the measure.—( Hear, and a laugh.) The speech of the Noble
Lord would show to the people the feeling entertained by in-
fluential members of their Lordships' House on this most im-
portant question—a question which he maintained was con
trary to the fundamental principles of the Constitution, and op-
posed to those safeguards of the liberties of the country, which
were established at the Revolution, and which had never been
violated till now. He regretted that he was compelled to differ
from those friends, with whom he generally acted ; but en
another occasion he hoped to have an opportunity of stating
more fully the grounds upon which he opposed the Bill.
The House then went into Committee on the Bill, and the
whole of the clauses having been agreed to, the House re-
sumed, when

The CHAIRMAN reported progress, and the Bill was or-
dered to be read a third time, on Monday next.
LANDLORDS AND TENANTS' BILL.
Lord STANLEY intimated his intention of moving the
second reading of this Bill on Friday, instead of Monday next.