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London, England, 1842-05-07 00:00:00

LUNACY BILL.

Lord COTTENHAM said, that as the Lunacy Bill,
the Bankruptcy Bill, and the County Courts Bill, were ap-
pointed for Committee on Monday, he thought it would be
better if their Lordships would postpone the Lunacy Bill for a
short time.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said, he thought it right to
state, that the other night his Noble Friend beside him (Lord
Campbell.) pressed him to move forward these Bills, more par-
ticularly the Lunacy Bill, but at the request of the Noble
Lord (Cottenham) he had consented to delay them till Monday
Lord CAMPBELL said, that the Noble and Learned Lord
entirely misapprehended him It was with regard to the
Looney and Bankruptcy Bills he was anxious to know what
were the Learned Lord's intentions. _ _ _

Lord BROUGHA3I said, he had expressed his wish that
the Local Courts Bill should be proceeded with in preference to
the other two.

The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that he was most
anxious to proceed with that Bill, but he wished the fullest in-
termation to be before the House.
CORN- L A WS.
Earl FiTzWILLIAM presented a petition from Northum-
berland against the Corn and Provision-laws.
ELECTION COMMITTEES (COMMISSION).
Lord BROUGHAM said he wished to call the attention of
the House to a subject of great importance. It appeared from
the proceedings of the other House, according to the Votes,
that the time had at length arrived when it was his bounden
duty to bring the great subject before their Lordships, of which
he had last year given notice, and to redeem the pledge which
he had then given. The proceedings to which he had alluded
were marked with the most corrupt, illegal, and unconstitu-
tional practices. He found that it would be vain in the present
state of things to move for a Committee of Inquiry, as he had
at first intended, without first taking means to ensure the
fullest protection and indemnity to all who might be required
to give evidence. He should therefore, with their Lordships'
consent, bring in a Bill for the purpose of giving that protec-
tion and indemnity to all persona who should be required to
give evidence before a Committee of their Lordships, or any
other tribunal appointed to inquire into proceedings connected
with the character of, or in relation to, the other House of Par-
liament. On the second reading of the Bill he should go more
fully into the subject. The Noble and Learned Lord then
brought in the Bill, which, as usual, was read a first time pro
forma.

RoLmoarnd
Catholics
Dpresented several petitions from the
Hammersmith, Tamwerth, and various
other parts of England, complaining of a number of grievances
which pressed peculiarly utvlon them, and praying that means
might be taken to remedy
uesbel. grievances. His Lordship said,
that it had appeared in
pttluerioi
se
of
papers, that 11,0001. annually
had been voted for the
and
navyreligious instruction to those
thi.. in the service of the armyll,oool. it
was stated that 7,0001. was appropriated' to the "f
lhe religious instruc-
tion of Roman Catholics. The univer'sat atement of these
petitioners was, that the sum appropriated tsf.
) Roman Catholic
instruction was onlyoo/.
LOCAL RATES.

Earl FITZ WILL lAM presented a petition, praying that
ttait whole of the lecal rates might he levied in one rate, instead
of in three or four distinct rates, such as Highway, Watchinr.,
&c., al at present.
EDUCATION OF CATHOLICS.
Lord CLIFFORD, of Chudley, presented several petitions
complaining of the general want of religious instruction, and
advice smongst the Roman Catholics.
On the question that the House do now adjourn,
The Marquis of NORMANB Y said he had waited to the last
moment, in hope that the Noble Marcuis opposite (London-
derry) would have taken an opportunity to retract the unwar-
rantable accusations which he hat made on a former night
against the Nlagistrates of Sunder:and, after he had received
a.ful refutation of those accusations. He (the Marquis of
Normanby) would, on Monday, call the attention of the House
tothe charges made Ity the Soblit Marquis opposite, that cer-
tain Magistra es of Sunderland had retuned licenses on part-
grounds.

The Nlaripi/s of LONDONDERRY was ready to prove the
truth of all that he liad said, if the House thought, proper. But
as the ',gird-Lieutenant of the county, and a Peer of Parliament,
he would' not answer the appciri of the Ma) or and six Whig
Magistrates of the borough of Sunderland. If the Noble :liar-
“pposite ( Normanbv) wi,lied to bring the subject before
the House again, he (Gird Londonderry) would feel it his
ditty to go into the whole cleta,ls. But he would not answer
the application made to him by the six Whig Magistrates, who
took advantage, after the Cons,;rvative Magistrates had left the
bench, to pass resolutions, moved by a Quaker, to contradict
what he had sa'd in his place in the House of Lords.
Lord WHARNCLIFFE suggested that the matter should
rest where it was, as notice had been given by the Noble Mar-
quis (Normanby) that he would bring the subject before the
House by a question to his Noble Friend (the Marquis of Lon-
dondery),_ on Monday.
The Marquis of IN 0 RNIANBY could not after what had
fallen from the Marquis of Londonderry, he would not—allow
forty-eight hours to pass ever without letting the House know
whet were the real fasts of the case.
The Earl of lIADDING'f UN and Lord WHARNCLIFFE
spoke to order.
contenting himself with

saying that those gentlemen denied in the strongest terms the
accusations made against them, would postpone any further
remark until Monday, beyond expresssing again his surprise
that when any Noble Member of that House had reeeived evi-
dence proving that he had made ungrounded accusations, that
Noble Lord did not take the earliest possible opportunity of re-
tracting them.
The Duke of WELLINGTON said that if his Noble Friend
(the Marquis of Londonderry) had done what the Noble Mar-
quis opposite considered it ungenerous not to have done, he would
have taken a very disorderly course. It would have been all
very well, if the Noble Marquis opposite had given his Noble
Friend the opportunity, by asking whether he had received
any communication, such or such ; but it would have been alto-
gether disorderly for his Noble Friend to have stood up in the
first place, and told the House what letters had been written
as to what he had said in his place as a Peer of that House.—
(Hear, hear.) He thought the matter had better be left as it
was until Monday.
The Marquis of NORMANBY said that he never called
upon the Noble Marquis to deny the allegations which he had
made; but the fact was, that those gentlemen placed a docu-
ment in his hand relative to these allegations, and he merely
wished to give the Noble Marquis an opportunity to explain.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY rose amid cries of
" Order." He said that he was quite willing to enter into an
explanation now, if that were the pleasure of the House ; or if
the House preferred it he would adjourn it till Monday ; but he
was quite ready to answer the allegations of those gentlemen.
Earl FITZWILLIAM said he would really suggest that
some effective means should be taken to preserve order in the
House.—( Hear.)
Lord REDESDA LE said that he was not a very old Mem-
ber of that House, but he really thought that they were a great
deal mere disorderly now than they were when he entered it.—
( Laughter.) He certainly thought it proper that whenever
Peers were called to order they should submit to it, instead of
persevering in disorder as they did now.—( Hear.)
TURNPIKE TRUSTS BILL.

This Bill was read a third time and passed.
Several other Bills were then advanced a stage, and their
Lordships Adjourned at a Quarter-past Sevea o'Clock till
Monday.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, May fi.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'Clock.
SOUTHAMPTON ELECTION.

Mr. REDINGTON brought up the Roport from the
Committee appointed to try the merits of the petition
against the return for the borough of Southampton.
The resolution the Committee had agreed to was, that
Viscount Bruce (now Lord Elgin) and C. C. Martyn,
Esq., were not duly elected, and that the election fur
the borough of Southampton was void. That the said Viscount
Bruce, and C. C. Martyn, had by their agents been guilty of
bribery, but that there was no proof that tlie said Viscount
Bruce, and C. C. Martyn, Esq., were cognisant of such
bribery. Tho Committee also reported that very extensive
treating prevailed during the election, and that the amount of
money expended in the contest, 5,0001., having far exceeded
the ordinary and legal charges of an election, it nas a matter
which desorved the serious consideration of the House.
SECOND READINGS.

The Boston Harbour Bill (No. 2), and the Birmingham
and Liverpool Junction Railway Bill (No. 2), wore read a
second time.

Colonel SIBTHORP presenteda petition against the Bos-
ton Harbour Bill (No. 3.)
NORTH OF ENGLAND RAILWAY.

The Great North of England Railway Bill was read a third
time and passed.
CATHOLIC GRIEVANCES.

Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL presented a petition from the Ca-
tholics of Warwickshire, complaining of the grievances to
which Catholics are subjected, particularly in military service,
or in prisons.