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Ile then referred to the arrival of the Princess of
Brunswick in this country, in terms, as I.r as we
heard them, not to be repeated, and concluded
by warning the House of the danger of pro-

cerding.
The previous question was then put abdcarriett°,
[Some private business occupied a few Mi'nuf-es •
Lord CAsTLEREAGH rose and said, that it would
be inconsistent with his feelings as a privAte'indi-
vidual, and his public duty. to suffer such observa-
tions as had been matte to pass unnoticed; Ile
did not interrupt the Hon. Gentleman, but he
protested that no one acquainted with the trans-
action to which he had su allnded could breathe
a suggestion of the kind the Honce had heard.
Nothing was ever more foreign to the mind of
an
august Personage, under all the painful circum-
stances in which he had been pl4ced (and never
were those circumstances more paintiil)--
noth-
iog was ever nt.re opposite to his niind than a
vindictive spirit. The very reverse Wal the tem-
per which he had displayed. And he stated it to
his honour, that wh.stever sense he entertained of
the injury he had suffered, however much his pri-
vate feelings were aggrieved, he had cordially lent
himself to every effort that haul been !Dade to pro-
tect the Country from the evils of the inquiry
which had heel, forced upon it. That Pei,or,-
age acted throitahout wi h the utmost forbearance:
and, if it was to be sought whence the necessity
for public uisclosure arose, it would he touted not
in him but in the nature of the case, and in her
Majesty's resolution. The Nation, indeed, ought
to be grateful to its Sovereign for the disposi-
tion he had evinced. He would add nothing
more. The indications with hich the Hon.
Gentlemen's speech was mat ked by the House
conveyed its sense of it more forcibly than any
atilllteti version he could ttse.—(flear,)--The
Noble Lord now went on to the course of pro-
ceeding which it was Proposed to adopt on the
Older of the Day for taking up the King's
Nit s,age, in consequence of the prOceedings in the
Upper House. lie took a review of what haul
been done since the. Message had been brought
down ; the Address in consequence, and the post-
ponements to afford time for the attempt to effect
a compromise, and avoid disclosure awl discus-
sion, and the calamity which had taller upon
them. By the Queen's answer, they were placed
in a new situation, and he had felt that it became
him to name a day on which to lay the charges
before the House, subject to an underst anding ,
that if any proceedings were adopted in another
place, they might think it advisable to alter their
course. He thought it would he more consistent to
give the lead to the HouSe of Lords, to examine
the esideece on the Bill now before it. Ott:these
grounds, he conceived it would be better that her
Majss:y should repel the charges where they
were instituted. He had no better elan to offer,
and therefore proposed to desist. The only ques-
tion was, what the House ought to do in accord-
ance with the view they had taken of the question
root the beginning. It might perhaps be desir-
able to adopt rather a suspensive that; a conclu-
sive measure ; especially as they could not foresee
what turn the discussions elsewhere might take,
and what it might be necessary fe.r theM to do,
assisasead_ee_veral occurrences which might be
gro o ons roe wisnurg-anas
u--theop Lord, discontinuing on grounds riot
satisfactory to the Commons—the House t.ilhing-
to take cognizance of the Bill if sent down to
them, and the evidence—or the inclination, if it
failed, to examine into the conduct of Minister's,
to see how far their proceedings were justified.—
On these grounds, he submitted that the Order of
the Day for the reconsideration of the iliessage
might be read, and postponed to the nth of
August, by which time it might be supposed the
Lords would have made sufficient pi ogress to
enable them to take up the question. If the
House was not sitting at the tinte, it would be-
come a lapsed order, and might be resumed when
they met. The Noble Lord moved a postpone-
ment accordingly.
Sir M. RIDLEY objected to the proposed
course, and thought it woold be more equitable
and just not to keep any ulterior proceedings sus-
pended over the head of the accused in this
[louse, When her case had been fully brought to
trial elsewhere. Alluding to the preceding debate,
he declared that he could not mix up personal
considerations with this great question, which
.was between the People Ott one side and the
Queen on the other. lie was coneineed that the
House acted wisely in agreeing to the Resolution
to address the Queen, and did not regret his vote
our that. occasion, though he sincerely regretted
that it was not attended with the consequences he
had hoped for.--(l-sear.)—If, hoWever, he had been
aware, as Ministers were, of the extent of the
charge, he was not sure that he would haire acted
so. Ott the contrary, he thought they had thrown
the responsibility from themselves upon the House,
in seeking a comproMise, to which he never
would have consented, had be believed the
charge: could have been proven. Instead of the
suspensive course preferred by the Noble Lord,
he was decidedly in favour of the conclusive. The
Query was at the Bar of the Lords to defend her-
self, and he asked if it was consistent with jut-
lice to keep hanging over her head a second Court
of Inquiry it she escaped the first ? If the pre-
amble to the Bill was not proven, did the Noble
Lord mean to begin again in that House? Grand
Juries, to which they bad been in this instance
compared, could not do this, but must begin
de nos() on a separate case from the first. He
then went over the supposable grounds mentioned
by the Noble Lord, and concluded by moving
that the order be discharged.
Lord CASTLREsAoll..disclaimed any idea of open-
ing the Bag in that House, if the Queen was ac-
quitted in the other.
Mr. BENNETT, in a speech in which some very
warm language escaped him, defended the scope
of Mr. Creevey's argument. What he had said
would have a stinging effect out of doors, and
Ministers were liound to have stood up and jams-
tiffed their master. According to the acklowledg-
!Dent of the Noble Lord, it appeared that the
King had lent himself to an acecinmodation with
licentiousness and adultery. Nothing would be
more degrading, and he argued that the accusa-
tions were disbelieved, otherwise this would no,
have been submitted to. The same was proved
by the offer to treat her as Queen, and by the