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the Noble Lord would make a triumphant
3''‘' „no the occasion which the course of de.
gtech *rreply to. The Gentle-
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-4 e other side of the House might, however,
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deprecating such a discussion. Had they
that, when they mere in office, although 1
•eg f. rsard some long agitated questions,
alluded probably to the Slave Trade and the
sy6tem] and supported them with all the
not improperly used, of their official situa-
• they did at that time feel that there were
Icient to prevent them bringing forward
i f If one were to judge from their cla-
•nent, one would suppose that they thought
ounobjectionable thatthere was not a day
to be lost, and yet they did not appear to
they were in office—.-[Hear ! hear /]—
not suppose it was from any contemptible
',o, motives, but he would give them the
0
supposing that they saw fair and statesman-
ns for not wishing then to bring forward the
They should therefore notbe much surprized
imilar objections at the present moment, and
shortly why he wished the discussion to
soon as possible, and to close in that spirit
tion which had been so strongly recommen-
the Right Honourable Gentleman who
forward the motion, and who himself gave
an example of that moderation which he
recommended.. He must agree with that Right
entleman in all the abstract principles
had laid down, of the necessity ofcivil.con-
, union, and more particularly in the present
Ja of the country and the circumstances of the
set he could not agree with him entirely as to
' result of those principles. That it would
v, and that it was desirable at all times,
to practical unanimity, was a question that
could doubt. It was much to be deplored,
a division and animosities subsistedon religi-
awls, which ought not to have produced di-
ir animosities among any men of common
aid cries bf hear I hear !]. What he had
:d was doubtless true in theory and philoso-
a history chewed a melancholy proof of the
icabffity of carrying this theory altogether
ion. • • He concurred most heartily in wishing
religious animosities might soon be healed-,
deploring their existence ; but yet he could not
eyes against the practical effects of them. He
t, in point of fact, they did exist; and he
whether they, were to be healed by speeches,
as eloquent speeches as the house had just
from the Right Honourable Gentleman who
' the motion. He, therefore, deprecated a
which, he was convinced, could not lead
:deal. good, and which, if it were not con-
that temper andmoderation recommended
Rikht HonourableGentleman, would probably
moteinjury than service to the cause which-it was
atendedm support.. The manner, however, in which
de Right Honourable Gentleman (Mr. GRATTAN)
height forward the claim, certainly could do the
ruse no injury. The principles which he had utter-
ed were highly becoming his situation, 'the country
' which had given him birth, and of which he had been
so long an ornament, and e task which he had un-
dertaken. Et was convinced, however, that the ad-
vice which he had given to the Gentlemen of Ire-
land, and which he would, no doubt, confirm by
his own example, would do more practical good
n the conciliation of the people of that country,
than any legislative enactment which could be made.
Ile, for his part, could net see that the cause had
acquired any additional weight by any thing that
had &aimed since, die last time it was brought for-
ward. There was no more probability now than there
was then of any practical good resulting from the dis-
cussion. He believed the Right Honourable Gentle-
man himself would rather that the measure should be
rr the present withheld, provided that, in the with-
ading it, there should be no irritating hnguage or
ratinients expressed, than that it should be torn
sum an unwilling Parliament, and a reluctant pc. pie.
(Loud tries of hear ! hear !) The Right Honourable
Gentleman knew well that there was a strong public
aliment in this country against the measure. He
would not say whether this sentiment was founded in
mute, or in error and prejudice. If it was founded
in reason, it could not be expected that it should be
mnbated by legislative enactments ; and even if it was
handed in prejudice and error, the Right Honourable
Gentleman was so enlightened a Statesman, as to
hoe that prejudice was seldom destroyed by coer-
cion, and that it might he as unfair to apply coercion
to the prejudices of the one side, as to apply the penal
laws•tothe prejudices of the other. If the Right Hon.
Gentleman was really so sanguine as to hope by
Ineloquence to controul the vote of that House, yet
Ie must foci that it was a *question of great difficulty,
'IA of some danger. He deplored, as much as the
Right Honourable Gentleman, any retrospect on past
Ilrcea ( Loud cries of hear! hear ! ) He again heard
the Noble Lord loud in the cry, and he anticipated ,
from him a most eloquent speech. He would, how-
ever, recommend to him to follow the example of
the Right Honourable Gentleman, although he could
not expect his recommendation would have much
weight, and thought lie already saw that it was the
intension of the Gentlemen on the other side, to mix
considerations altogether cf a personal nature, with
their arguments on the present question tand, among
°tiler reasons, he had wished to have spoken later in
the debate, for the purpose of answering those ohjec-
!lora which he already anticipated. Whatever might
l'' the comparative merits of the speech of the Right
nonourable Gentleman, who was the leader in this
Cause, and those who were to follow him, still he ,
most observe that the claim had been stated m a
runner that coald not do it any injury, and which
he thought might do it material service. It was the
mode that had been taken by him, and not that which
wined likely to be adopted by other Gentlemen, that
would do most real service to the cause. He must
say, that he saw serious obstacles and objections to
!IF measure at the .present period, and so did the
Right Honourable Gentleman who brought it for-
ward. He appeared to despair of success, and there-
lore took a second course--that of giving advice and
admenition to the Gentlemen of Ireland. His advice
and admonition was, undoubtedly, of the highest
y
Itie and importance • and he had no doubt, but that
if it was followed, it ;mild produce more real good
than even the penal statutes now in force. If, how-
ever, the obstacles to the petition were insurmounta-

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