The Sun.
London, England, 1829-02-06 00:00:00

Mr. Secretary PEEL said that the Lord Chancellor
was impressed with the necessity of facilitating toe busi-
ness of that Court, and it was his intention to propose a
Bill upon that subject.
Mr. JOHN WOOD said he had the honour of present.•
ing a petition from the Dissenters of Liverpool, in favour
of Catholic emancipation, he could assure tha House it was
most numerously and respsctably signed, and the senti-
ments it contained rescued that body from the charge
which last sessions had been made against them at the
time they obtained the repeol of the Test and Corpora-
tion Acts., the charge lie meant that of and indifference
to the claims of their suffering Roman Catholic brethren,
he was persuaded the time had gone by when the sound
of no popery had any terrors. This was only one of
many petitions which would shortly be presented from
Liverpool.
General GASCOIGNE bore testimony to the great re-
spectability of the petitioners, but le would inform the
Hon. Member that petitions of different nature would also
be presented from Liverpool, when he should take an
opportunity of stating his opiniont on the subject.
Mr. HUSKISSON was happy a petition in favour of
Emancipation had been presented by the Dissenters of
Liverpool ; he could assure the House the petitioners were
rnest reaps etable ; this petition would clear them from the
charge of inconsistency ; it was clear they were not indif-
ferent to the claims of the Roman Catholics, but lovers of
civil and religious liberty, and he (Mr. Huskisson) wou'd.
support any measure of such a nature. It had been said
many Dissenters did not view the claims of the Catholics
favourably, and he was sorry to say he was induced to be-
lieve, from his own inquiries, that such was in some cases
the fact ; but he hoped alit the great body did nut wish
to exclude any of his Majesty's subjects from the benefits of
the state. He was happy that Ministers were shout to
introduce a Bill for the removal of the civil disabilities
under which the Catholies were suffering.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL could assure the Right Hon.
Gentleman who had just sat down, that he was labouring
under an error if he supposed the Dissenters generally were
indifferent on this great subject ; in a few days he should
have the honour of presenting several petitions in favour of
Emancipation from that body.
Lord CLIVE then brought up the Report on the
Address.

Sir'T. LETTHMIIDGE said that he should say but
a few words, and those few na in opposi•ion to the further
progress on the Address. He had been ever opposed to
Doncession, because he could think of no measure
which could be productive of universal satisfaction.
He had no hope that the results expected from the mea-
sure now in contemplation would be realized. While he
raid this, he wa.s willing to admit that the settlement of
the question, even though it should be settled in opposi-
tion to his own sentiments, was preferable to leaving
things in their present deplorable situation.—(Cheers.)

Mr. LISTER observed to the House, that he rose under
feelings of perfect disinterestedness with regard to either
Parliament. lie was neither an Orangeman nor a Bruns-
wicker ; he would, however, observe, that before the
formation.of the Brunswick Clubs it was necessary to have
even a Protestant settlement of the question. During the
past state of things it was impossible for the Irish Govern-
ment to have followed any definite course.—(Hear, hear,
hear.) At present the Catholic Association formed a
Government such as had never before been beheld—a
Government of the purest denrocsaey, with an Established
Church of their own, so connected as perhaps no other
Established Church ever was before with any Govern-
ment, a separate array of tax-gatherers who levied
contributions on all the country with a Finan-
cial department of their own, and a distribution of the
taxes as extraordinary as was the collection of them—under
these circumstances the question was what were they to
do. There were two great partie in Ireland waitining upon
their arms, and watching with most intense anxiety the
solemn pause in which their future destiny wotdd be deter-
mined. The Brunswick party bad arisen from the purest
motives on the part of the Protestant inhabitants of that
country, they have waited, before they had done so, for
some other interference and when they had
found that none was offered, it became necessary to or
ganise thsmselves. It was not, however, before they had
aeen twenty thousand of the militia of the Catholic As-
sociation collected in the fields of Tipperary, and heard the
threat of sending 100,000 more that the organization of
the Protestants of Ireland was produced. Those parties
were now in that organized state, and were watching tech
.other with suspicion. Under such existing circumstances,
tone of three courses must be pursued. The first was to leave
the event to terminate by the issue of civil wars : the
second was an attempt at conciliation by concession upon
Catholic principles ; the third was upon a Protes-
tant basis; ho meant by not violating the principles' of
their religion, but judging in what manner they could best
consult the interests of this Protestant country, and at the
same time make concessions that would be expedient. With
regard to civil war, there are many persons now in
Ireland who treat the idea as one of pusilanimity;
but he most sincerely . believed that there was not a
single Member in his Majesty's Government, but would
consider himself deserving of impeachment, if he dictated
such a line of policy as would lead to civil war. With
regard to the second course, that of concession upon
Catholic principles, he had always resisted that without
securities. He concluded by expressing his conviction
of the present measure being most essential, and his
perfect confidence in the present Administration.
Mr. DAWSON begged to trespass upon the House a
ew moments to express his opinion,. an indulgence which
would only be an act of justice to himself and his con-
stituents. He looked upon, the proceedings of last night
as the happiest event which had ever occurred in Irish
history. It was the bright dawning of the prospects
of Irelend after a long night of dismal darkness.---.
When the Catholic Question was last year under considera-
tion he took no part in it, for conviction was rising
,in his
mind.—(Cheers.)-,.--He had. however great difficulties to
contend with. He was connected with a high Protestant
family who had been unjustly persecuted by the Catholics.
He went to Ireland in perfect ignorance of what might be
the intention of his Majesty's Ministers (Cheers.) But
when lie went to Ireland, he found every thing in a state
of convulsion. Just then an Anniversary was to be held in
the City, of which he was a member, and when he saw the
state of party there, he felt that he would be wrong to en-
courage such feelings, when all the elements of insurrection
appeared to be ready to esiplod.?-.. Under all these cir-
pgrestapses, he thought the time had arrived for him to
make the avowal of his changed sentiments upon that
important question.—(Cheers.) He was delighted that
these sentiments were taken up to his Majesty's Govern-
ment ; awl he had no doubt but that the measure to be
adopted would open new sources of wealth to Ireland,
which could not fail to add to her prosperity.--(Cheers.)
Mr. HUSKISSON exprested his pleasure that this
measure would at last be supported by the Government.
He had- ne doubt but that many emde were censcierts
timely opposed to catholic concessions up to the last
moment, and yet they might, without the least ohane of
beotiroent, admit the nevesasty of acting contrary to their
opiniont. He hoped that his Right Hon. Friend who
stood in this predicament, would yet make this a measure
of grace, to be f.eely given, so that it must be thankfully
received. The cause had gradually gained strength as
it gained importance, until it was no longer sttfe
to oppose it, and until its concession wea 4travoid-
able, and until the Right kionoAralife 4enttemars him--
se4. cNr. kieexelati Peels, vito two years ago had declared
0,4 in or Wit of power he should always be opposed to
concession, was now obligee, to his honour be it spoken,
to be himself the promoter and advocate of the mea-
sure.—( Hear, hear, hear. )—And lie entertained no doubt
but he would now be as sincere in his suppoet of Catholic
Ernaucipatson as he formerly was in his opposition to that
measure. He was always a realtre frig td cAtholic
concessions, but 11,2. 4ist 1.14. opposed to the Catolic
cjpciri a+. 1-(C could not hello° in Catholic miracles,
though the convefsions lie had lately witnessed were enough
, to induce a person to believe in any thing.—(Laughter.)—
He hoped, however, that hereafter some explanation would
be given of the causes which led to these conversions ; but
as it was he hailed the measure as one Outmost importance
to Ireland. The Association could not be the cause of the
disturbed state of Ireland, for it was in fact only the spawn
of the wrongs of the Catholics, and would expire with those
wrongs. The Right Hon. Gent. expressed his app,obation of
what had been done relative to Greece, but he could not
avoid noticing the difference between the speech of this
and of the last session of Parliament, relative to the blockade
, of the Dardanelles, rand he was also disappointed by the
. terms of the Speech as to state of affairs in Portugal.
' Sir J. NEWPORT was left speaking.