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!CDR SUN, LONI)ON, TUESDAY EVENING, APRIL 18 Ms,

ENDOWMENT OF MAYNOOTH.
PUBLIC MEETING AT THE LONDON TAVERN.
Mr. LABOUCIIERE (in continuation from our Afternoon
Edition of yesterday) said—Why were they called on to
give their money towards such an institution ? On poli-
tical:grounds he might oppose it. He might clearly show
that, instead of conciliating the Roman Catholic popu:a-
tion, the efforts of the Government had, on the contrary,
conduced to greater hostility. He might show that the
Catholics themselves were neither desirous nor under the
necessity of asking for such a grant. But he argued
against this grant neither on political nor on any secular
grounds ; but lie did argue against it because he con-
ceived that the Church of Rome was imbued with despe-
rate and fatal errors, and he could not assent to a grant
to Maynooth, because it was helping to propagate such
errors. He then moved " That this meeting regards
with the deepest repugnance and apprehension the pro.
position just submitted to Parliament by her Majesty's
Ministers, for the permanent endowment of the Burnish
College of Maynooth, considering that measure to in-
volve a distinct reliunciation of the national Prwestantism
to which it would humbly ascribe that Divine blessing,
which has raised Great Britain to its present elevation of
power, and wealth, and prosperity."
Mr. I). GoULD said that he would not have presented
himself before them, if he had thought that discussion
or argument was at all necessary in order to oppose a
grant like that to Maynooth, in the most Protestant city
of the most Protestant country in the world, and he,
therefore, seconded the resolution, which was carried
with some opposition.
Mr. .T. J. CUMMINCS, in moving the second resolution,
said he did not feel himself justified in taking the same
ground as Mr. Gould, on a question which he regretted
had met with so much favour in Parliament ; because
he thought that, in giving his suppoi t to a resolution
such as that which hs• held in his hand, he was bound to
state the reasons which had influenced his own mind ;
and he would not have taken part in the proceedings
of this meeting, if he had nit been impelled to do so
by conscientious motives. They had been discussing
points in which debatable positions were introduced.
But they had ns,w come to a point in which it was not
toleration, hut participation which they were called upon
to take in what they all conceived to be a sin against
God. The Roman Catholic had been admitted to a full
and fair participation in all civil rights ; but to cross the
line, and themselves voluntarily to support that which
they were well aware was in itself nothing less than
idolatry--
The LORD MAYOR interrupted the speaker by remind-
ing him that it was a contract.
Mr. CU3IMINGS said his Hon. Friend had reminded
him that it was a contract, and the very name of a con
tract reminded him of that which would carry with it
the principles of every high and right-minded merchant.
But in this instance they were called upon to bind
themselves hand and foot to—not the support of Ma) -
nooth alone—but also for the endowment of the
Roman Catholic Church in Ireland. They knew no•
thing of such a principle of expediency as this. The
attempt to conciliate the Roman Catholic people of Ire-
land was a vain and a fruitless effort. There was an
expediency that was allowable, but that expediency was
limited by the word of God, and they were now called
upon to give their adhesion to a principle which
transferred the honour due to God alone to a
faith which gave that honour to graven images.
They were all aware that the prosperity of
the nation depended, not on their merchants,
their commerce, and their manufactures, but upon the
fiat of God alone—and if God did but for one moment
frown upon them the whole of the prosperity of the
country would vanish in a moment. Having thus ex-
pressed his views he moved—" That this meeting,
contemplating the measure in the light in which
it is viewed by leading statesmen on both sides of
the House of Commons—as the first step to the
establishment of the Romish priesthood in Ireland—is
of opinion, that before attempting the introduction of so
great a change in the national policy, there ought to
have been offered, on the part of its promoters, some
distinct explanation of the course intended to be pursued
on the great question of religious endowments. And,
without implying or admitting that such a question
ought to be entertained at all, this meeting considers that
those who have propounded the present measure should
at least explain whether their object is to establish two
religions in Ireland, or three, or what number."
Mr. AMBROSE MOORE said that no one could doubt
the splendid abilities with which the Premier had been
endowed, but as lie had not stated what was his
particular object in proposing this endowment,
it was was plainly clear that the people of
England had a right to require them. This measurse
was not opposed by any one or two sections of the com-
munity, and heconceived that the combination of parties
by which it was opposed was the happiest union of parties
which he had ever witnessed. He thought that if they
looked at the Bible Society, and the other religious so-
cieties, who collected hundreds of thousands of pounds
for specific objects, they would hardly think that it was
either fair or just that this money should be taken out
of their pockets for a purpose to which upon every
principle they were opposed. He then quoted a passage
from the last pamphlet of the late Sidney Smith, to
show what he conceived to be the misconduct of the
Roman Catholic priesthood in the administrations of the
sacraments of their church. With respect to the only
principle contained in the Premier's speech—namely,
that Ireland should be governed through the agency of
the Romish clergy—on this ground alone he would have
opposed it, for he was of opinion also that Mr. M'Neill
was right when he asserted that the less temporal power
the better, and much as he respected the clergy of the
Church of England, he would rather they were without
any power at all than that they should possess the power
with which the Romish priests were now to be endowed.
He thought that the policy of this grant was the very
worst that could possibly have been pursued, and thus
thinking, he seconded the resolution.
Mr. DANIEL WHITTLE HARVEY said that when
he recollected that brilliant eloquence which had
been used both in favour and in opposition to
this grant, he regretted that he had not had more
time to brush up old recollections than that which was
allowed from the time he entered the room. He was
no advocate of intolerance ; he had never drank at the
fountains of sectarian bitterness ; and it was not because
he was no friend of the Church of England, and still less
a friend of the Church of Rome, but because he
thought that religion was too sacred and unearthly to be
at all upheld by State endowments that he opposed it. If
the principles which he had heard propounded to-day
were to be carried into effect, the Church of England
ought to send into Ireland an army of clerical crusaders
to Protestantise Ireland.—(The speaker was here inter-
rupted by great clamour and confusion.)
The LORD MAYOR interposed, and stated that if he
were not allowed to keep order, he must quit the chair ;
but he must remind his friend (Mr. Harvey) that this
meeting was called for a single purpose.
Mr. HARVEY readily recognised the rule which the
Lord Mayor laid down, and he conceived that every
speaker was bound to state his own reasons for opposing

THOMAS F4RM.}.II, E,=(l., seconded a motion. He
considered himself honoured by has ing been call, d
upon to support it, and perfectly concurred in the sen-
timents of the Rev. Gentleman who had last spoken, and
in those of the gentlemen who had addressed the meeting.
The motion was then put by Mr. WIRE, and was ear-
rio I by acclamation.
The LORD MAvon then rose and said it was a source
of great satisfaction to Lim, in the discharge of what
he considered his public duty, to receive so unanimous a
testimony of appreciation as to the manner in which he
had conducted the meeting. His Lordship resumed his
seat amidst general cheering.
Mr. WIRE called upon the meeting to sign the pe-
titions which were lying in the tavern for signature, and
to use their exertions to induce their friends and others
to agitate the question which had been mooted.
The Lord Mayor then left the chair, and the meeting
separated.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
ROUSE OF LORDS, April 14.
Their Lordships met at Five o'clock.
Several Bills, amongst which was one for affording
better protection to works of art, were brought up from
the Commons.

AGGREGATE PROTESTANT
MEETING AGAINST THE MAYNOOTH GRANT.
Last eve: ing a public meeting was held in Covent.garden
Theatre, according to the terms of the adverti•ement by
which it was called together, "of the Protestants of all de-
nominations,
ai ndnations, to protest against the establishment of Popery."
The doors were opened at half-past six o'clock, and within a
quarter of an hour after every part of the Wilding—boxes,
itandei
es. occupants
The
of the gbonxilee'sjeal—conasidceir.nasbvldeelirtoopoerxteieonss.weOref
whole extent of the stage was thrown open, and fully ozetil.ied
by the members of the Committee, the principal ministers of
religion belonging to ths various denominations of Protestant.
in the metioaol s, and the leading gentlemen connected with
each communion. The business of the meeting commenced at
seven o'clock, Robert Bevan, Esq., in the ch sir.
The Rev. CHARLES PHEST having read the 46th Psalm,
and the Rev. Dr HOLLOWAY offered up a Fraser,
The CHAIRMAN rose to address the meeting. He was
sorry that a gentleman, who was better known than himself,
and who was more able to give effect to their deliberations, had
not been chosen to preside over such a great assembly. He
was net a politician ; he had not been in the habit of attending
public meetings; yet, notwithstanding, humble as he was, he
would do his best to fill the situation to which they had called
him. These were not times to remain in a private capacity or
to look passively on, when a great principle was at stake;
sorrow
heart, vie w
the and hence he came forward to lift up his voice against
the wicked and ungodly measure proposed by Plrlia-
ment.
of
viewed with mixed feelings, though with great
fact thatthe providence of
God, good w
their rulers contemplated u
grievous a sin ; for, through as
brought out of evil, men of so many religious parties being
thus collected together, upnn the broad principle of resistance
to a great wrong, and protection to the Protestant faith.
The present meeting was entirely a religious one. Politics
had nothing to do with it. They might differ on political
subjects, but they were united on the religious duty of opposing
the grant to Maynooth, now under the consideration of the
House of Commons. It was pleasant for him to see persons
differing so widely on other questions now uniting in the
common object to oppose the legislative endowment of Popery.
—( Cheers.) This was a holy, a legitimate alliance.—.
(Cheers.) They did cot come forward to that meeting on the
ground that it was wrong to tax the people to support May-
nooth.—(:Murmurs of dissent.) That was not the case.
Many might think that no religious system ought to be en-
dowed—(Loud cheers)—but that was not the grounds of
the present opposition. Every person, he (Mr. Bevan)
admitted, had a right to hold whatever opinion he thought fit,
in regard to religious endowments, but it was not on such a
view of the question as that that the promoters
of the present meeting had called it together. Some might
imagine that if endowments were to be granted at all, theirs
should be the favoured religion, while others might conceive
that all religions should be endowed ; but those were not the
grounds upon which they had met together en that occasion.
The ground on which they opposed the measure was, because
it proposed the endowment of Popery.—(Cheers.) It was to
this point that the resolutions and speeches of the night would
have to be directed. On that principle they were all united—
that the grant to Maynooth should be opposed —( Cheers.'
The parties who were now supporting the grant did so on two
grounds—either from an avowed love of Popery, or because it
was carrying out an implied engagement or compact on the
part of the State. It could be easily shown, with re-
gard to the latter excuse, the only one within the
scope and consideration of the meeting, how weak
and futile it was.—(Hear.) No such compact existed,
either implied or otherwise.—(Cheers.) He maintained the
State was under no engagement of the kind.—(Cheers.) The
great evil in arguing the question was, that the people did not
know what Popery was—did not comprehend its true charac-
ter—but this was their own faults, they did not examine ir. If
they only looked at its accredited documents, they would soon
find out its true nature.—( Cries of " Name, name.") Den's
Theology.—(Great cheering and hissing, which lasted for
somo time.) A book, many portions of which could not be
rendered into English without exciting the greatest disgust.—
(Cheers.) How an education, with such text-books as that,
could make the priests of Ireland better men, or otherwise im-
prove the condition of that country, he could not understand.—.
(Cheers.) In conclusion, he hoped, as Protestants, they would
manfully come forward in defence of the principles for which
their forefathers fought and bled.—(Cheers.)
The CHAIRMAN then read several letters of excuse from
parties who had been invited but could not attend the meeting,
among which was one from Fox Maule, Esq., M.P. They
were all expressive of entire agreement with the objects of the
meeting.
The Rev. Dr. Ceor.x, in rising to move the first resolution,
was received with loud cheers. The resolution was to the
effect, That as it had pleased God to place this country
since the Reformation the first among the nations of Europe,
it would be a fearful dereliction of duty, and an act of base in-
gratitude, to abandon those Protestant principles which had
led to such prosperity. The Rev. Doctor having read the
resolution, went on to say that he never appeared before any
assembly with feelings of deeper emotion, or with so much
respect for the voice of public opinion. They were Pro-
testants—(Loud cheers)—and he gloried in the name, and
assembled—not for any trivial purpose, but to defend the
faith of their ancestors from the hands of the enemies
into which it had fallen.— (Cheers.) He was not much
in the habit of attending public meetings, but he recollected
that nearly ten years ago he stood under the same roof, and for a
similar purpose—that of protecting Protestantism.—( Hear,
hear, and cheers). That was a time when the
people were sunk low, and the country was placed its a con-
dition of great difficulty ; yet, notwithstanding that, public
opinion was appealed to, and it fully, fairly, and triumphantly
defeated the attempt which was then made.—(Loud
Cheers and much interruption.) He was desirous of
obtaining the good opinion of all present, but he would
then not
ebeeeepturty
_dot: e
n .v—ei(eeGeref atthceheeeeripnlge:
magnanimous,
The same voice that
was victorious on that occasion was raising itself once more in
and irresistible—(Cheers)—and it woualgdnaangaiminoupsr,euvaniilv.ersHale,
rejoiced to see both the Cathedral and the Chapel united on
the same common grounds, and his watch-word to them was
"No surrender."—( Loud cheers.) That was a time for the
various sections of the Protestant public to lay aside all minor
differences, and to unite in defence of their religion And the
Constitution of the country. It was not his wish to offend his
Catholic countrymen, or to say anything to wound their feelings,
for he opposed the proposed grant to Maynooth as much for the
sake of their own liberty, as from a desire to preserve the Con-
stitution of England. He was desirous of taking the ban-
dage from their eyes, to show them how much they were
deceived._( Cheers and interruption.) His view of the ques-
tionthe Reformation,—(Cheers and hisses.) Before that period,
whilewEasn,gtihaantdewvearsyßtheimngangocoadth-ienheEtnhgeland had resulted from
( Cheers and confusion.) Yes, he maintained
the better.
With the Reformation a great change took ilice for
o_
Elizabeth raised the glory of England to the highest pitchfeared
f
throughout Europe, but she broke dov fl
greatness. Not only was her power respected and
tf!
of
which the Continent could then boast pltebewyewreerselasviaesv.e—s.
reign, though Popish plots were rife, yet they were
dl
anni-
hilated by the discovery of the Gunpowder Plot, an
1., who followed,
Protes-
tantism was triumphant. Charles king
was a splendid sovereign, Just the
sin for a
makin a
_tshpeasintr.onglensttanhael nationnef
rising nation, but he committed the great of
the
graceg
Popish alliance, and from that day he went wrong
Englandreign
came Cromwell, a splendid man though a guilty one,
which he gave to
redeemed Isis errors by the great support
tPhreotensatmanetisnmf
of God was withheld, and he ended his days on a scaffold.
but
tehxet
where. Charles the
Papist, as was
Second, a weak and foolish man, was declaredKing;during
e in every nos_
their reigns the country was ;scourged and plaguer
followed.P
Bible manner. William, of glorious . meTaanyt,
James that succeeded him, the great Popish yet
'Ebnyglawnhdichreshpeeemteaddeehviesryreign memorable, and
Protestantism being once more
swept Europe before her.
It Wa
Duke of Marlborough
that the great military victories of the
them, that while
were achieved. This retrospect would teach
it up -(Cheers.)
Popery sunk the nation, Protestantism raised t that
(Loud cheers and
tholics from both Houses of Parliamen .
That good king saw
hisses, which lasted for several minutees.s)vramp
of error, was to
that the only way to get rid of the
it._
triumphant,
(Renewed con-
fusion.)The great act of William was the exctlusio_ n or Roman
stop up up the fountain-head that fed
passing of the
Constitution violated by the .
the was
29 —(Continued interrup-
Act of Catholic Emancipation in 18 •
as an unholy, rash,
He now came to the
tion.) The Bill would be looked upon.
important period, when
hisses, in the midst of
question ;" cheering, intermingled with
which the chairman rose and decided that the . speaker was out
Doctor spoke for a short time linger in
f order.) The Rev.
and ill-judged measure.—(Loud cries of " No, no ; question,
a somewhat similar strain, and amidst considerable confusion,
The Rev. J. BLACKBURN seconded the motion, and in the
me length, declared his " unalterable
course of an address of some length,
and concluded by
detestation of Popery.
repugnance and
and carried
The motion- was then put, . unanimously.
moving the resolution.
s condemnatory of the Government which wa
The Rev. JAMES SHERMAN briefly moved the second re-
solution,The motion beingseconded
by the Rev. W. CHALMERS,
to.
was unanimously agreed
in a very
The Rev. Dr. Drxox, long speech, consisting
proposi-
tion to endow
of 1 GI da r. ast '
review one s speech on Friday
principally of a
the third resolution, protesting against the
Maynooth.
evening, moved
such
the Maynooth
.
Parliament. He
• hurried through _ . concluded by seems-
beinghurry with which a measure as aynooth Bill was
Esq. seconded the resolution, which
DANIEL BLACKBURN,
mending the formation of an Anti-Popish Society.

e grant to Maynooth.—(The speaker was again
nterrupted by great clamour.) He was opposed
o the grant on two grounds. First, that the
grant was uncalled for ; and secondly, that if
made, it ought not to be made out of the taxes.
In his opinion, if this grant was made, it must ultimately
become a rule of State, and on this ground he was en-
tirely opposed to it. It was an objection to this step,
that if they were to have an Established Church at all,
they must have the Catholic Church, for it was for them
to say whether it was right that there should be a people
for a church, or a church for a people. But it
should be recollected that there was a nume-
rous and highly respcetable body of people, who
would put in the same claim, and he would ask them
whether they were ready to concede an endowment to
every dissenting sect in the country? If not, they must
refuse this grant. Ho knew that many people liked to steer
their course by their political leader, and he was sure
that Sir Robert Peel's followers would be grateful to
him for reading a few lines from a speech of that Right
Hon. Baronet himself. It should be recollected that about
ten years ago the Whigs, in order to turn out the friends
of Sir R. Peel, brought in what was called the celebrated
—now it was called the notorious—Registration Bill.
He then read part of a speech made by Sir R. Peel
after his exclusion from office, to the effect that the
Whigs, if powerful in the House were powerless without
it, and that there was a public opinion superior to
all majorities, and which must ever hereafter become
an element of every Government of this country. In
compliance with the suggestion, he came there not to
oppose the Government of Sir R. Peel, but to assert
the power of that opinion, and to coalesce with them in
opposing whatever might be an imposition on their
liberties or a plunder of their pockets, and with this
feeling he should most cordially move " That this meet-
ing feels entitled to complain of the unprecedented at-
tempt now making, by a coalition of the two great par-
ties in the Legislature, to force through Parliament,
esmteodnebyy, in spite deep repugnance so strongly
with unusual haste, a measure, including a grant of the
degrees, and denominations of
publicmab
the British people."
Mr. WI-MELTON moved the adoption of a petition to
Parliament to the effect that the grant to Maynooth was
the first step to the endowment of the Roman Catholic
Church in Ireland, and that some explanation of the
extent of the intention to establish one or two, or more
religions in Ireland, was necessary.
Mr. RIDLEY seconded the resolution, and the petition
was adopted.
'I he Rev. Dr. BUNTING then rose to propose the next
resolution —" That the sincere and grateful thanks of this
meeting be given to the Right Hon. the Lord Mayor, for
his kindness in calling the meeting, and for the ability
and courtesy with which he has presided
over it." He considered that his Lordship was
entitled to their thanks for promptly calling such a
meeting, and of giving the citizens of London an oppor-
tunity of declaring their sentiments on this important ques-
tion. He saw no reason why the Protestants of this couutry
should support the Roman Catholic religion and Roman
Catholic establishments in Ireland ; but at the same time
he thought that their Roman Catholic brethren in that
country ought not to be subject to any civil disabilities
nn account of the religion which they professed.
But because he was of this opinion, was he to be asked to
further and to patronise their peculiar and distinctive
a mweoausludr eh a
ve beengiv e
tpi riotptohseei dr
doctrines ? Could not Sir Robert Peel have adopted
some measure in favour of the Roman Catholics
without placing a tax on Protestants to give effect
was monstrousprinciple
o?bn—gcililiaetear.)thenadpeople of Ireland, without
upon the people of this country the expense of
ettoontaiitcli
supportingsupport. But tßhuotugihtt
people of this country by a property-tax —for, in
Hearty
axt
he
o ualedd haveest a
btioi
scbommeen
toutt
bo f
wthhiiesbtaxb—e
yt o
wsupport
opposed.—(Cheers.) Conciliate Ireland. Let
but do nut let them effect it by the sacrifice of religious
dtsfalitoreecotmt,nrigidtnlyoews° what they could to allay religious animosities,
principles. Religious peace was a great object to attain,
but to maintain religious principle was a greater object
s till.— (Hear, hear.)

olduldrenfeorttoenttehr upon the
EA AWAY SMITH, who was loudly cheered,
was agreed to.
He
duty
together
her before
Protestantefore f
o r electors
a
libut wowu
general question to-night,
of that meeting. e practical
:the event of the Maynooth Bill pass•
resolution—‘. That in
li. me t'
consequences and result
'flg the second reading, tis emg will re-assemble, in
order to take into
on s,
ri!
Oevre,Cr thetjohonaiO'Connell,
eedrldi3u
roof
at the next general election ; that the central anti-Maynooth
with scarcely any dif-
ference convene such meeting gis s
moved S ir Ct
the fourthL resol u t i o
speedily as possible, and
that in the mean time thq take such
.preparatory steps as they
may deem advisable." He was
.delighted with the result of
that assembly.
re-
ligious object, had metfrund
ference of opinion. 1% •
take ,in his presence, threw
upon any man who would money from another for his
scorn
religion. He would never cease him publicly why in ono
place he denounced it, and in another he consented to it ?
What had passed in the diocese of Exeter was a proof of
over of their religion. Some
the mighty powpersons contended
that it was vain to resist authority. But they had resisted,
and successfully. Sir Robert Peel told the Bishop of Exeter
that he ought out to resist public opinion, and was he now
prepared to adopt a contrary course himself? If so, would
they permit that to be done in a country which would not suc-
ceed in a diocese ?—(Hear.) Last Friday 2,372 petitions were
presented to the House of Commons against the Maynooth
krant, a number unprecedented in so short a period.—(Cheers. )
He understood the Whig h•aders were prepared now to let Sir
Robert Peel fight out the battle with his own followers.—
( Cheers.) Should that measure, notwithstanding, pass, they
must prepare for a general election,_ and assuredly they would
have a Protestant House ofCommons, and before so great a
revolution in the constitution of the country was effected he
claimed that the constituencies of the country should be con-
sulted. He felt confident, if they pursued wise and judicious
measures, of ultimate success.
The resolution was seconded by the Rev. Dr. HOLLOWAY,
and unanimously carried.
A petition founded on the resolutions was then read and
agreed to, and a vote of thanks being given to the Chairman,
the meeting separated at eleven o'clock.