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.GEO. HARRIS„ their Clerk.
Rugby, Sept: 14, 1827.
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Geo. 111. chap. 71, that the. Head Masters of • Rugby
School shall be. Protestants of the. Church of England, and shall have
versity of Oxford taken.the degree of Mager of Arts in the. Uni-
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A serious and fatal accident, attended with the
loss of lives of four individuals, three of whom now remain
buried with the sailing barge in which they were sunk, oc-
curred in the river Thames on Friday last. It appears that
the barge alluded to, called the Who'd have thought it,
being heavily laden with chalk, was proceeding from
Gravesend to London) and when it reached Gray's, the
violence of the wind and the extent of her cargo ren-
dered her altogether unmanageable, and she rapidly filled
with water. There were six persons in the barge, four
of whom were in the cabin below. Au instantaneous
apprentice to him
shout of alarm proceeded from a man of the name of Smith,
who was
conductini, the barge, and Charles Leigh, an
endea-
voured to ascend.
way, when the Water
One of them had actually reached half
, and the four men below, hastily
few moments, sunk with to wash him back, and together with the remainder; in a
otuhree
bdaringesOcWophioiulsstlythupe
boararghien:vaass
sinking, Leigh and another • -.1
into a small boat which
was lashed to her stern,
escape was effected. In their
Iji:1171.1.16 n a most miraculous
its suction. His companion
they overset the boat, fortunately reyci itating Leigh be-
yondan'x6iet to save theneselvea
to share another fate, and he was subsequently, On
precipitating Leigh
doomed
the tide receding, found lifeless on the shore.—
Leigh continued swimming until nature had be-
come nearly exhausted, when he happily reached
one of the hatches which hail been washed from
the barge, and with great difficulty he at length suc-
ceeded in attaching himself to it, and after remaining in
this situation for near an hour, the wind and tide drifted
hint on shore on the Essex side of the river. He was at
some distance from any house, and, from weakness quite
unable to walk ; but it fortunately occurred that some la-
bourers, who were proceeding to work in the neighbour-
hood, happened, to pass the spot, and with their assistance
he and the corpse were conveyed on a ladder to the Sailor's
Return, the wharf-house, at Gray's. The bodies of the
other individuals who have suffered have not yet been
found, and it is supposed they are still in the cabin of the
sunken barge. They were all of them what are termed
lumpers, and had been engaged by the Captain for the par_
pose of unloading the barge when it arrived at its place of
destination. The body already
.found is dreadfully lace-
rated over the left eye, and one of the ears is almost off.
It appears, according to the statement of the survivor, that
if they had been provided with proper tarpaulins to place
over the hatches, sufficient time would have been afforded
them to have -.effected their escape; but, as it was, the
water rushed in so violently as to prevent their ascending
the deck. Three out of the four are understood to have
left large families to lament their loss. Efforts hive been
made to weigh the barge, but hitherto without success,
and additional assistance has, in consequence, been sent
from London. The captain saved his life by similar means
to those resorted to by his apprentice.

ABERDEEN.--Alexander • Brown, Esq. provost,;
James Milne, Esq., John Voting, "Esq. Alexander
Stewart, Esq.," • and James Brebner, Esq. bailies;
Robert Duthie, Esq. dea'n of guild; Andrew Dun-
can, Esq. treasurer._ _ _

ANDiRSTON,—Henry Houldsworth, Esq. of
Cranstonhill, provost; Angus M'Alpine, Esq. Wm.
Kidstoh, 'Egg, Robert Fotheringham, Esq. bailies ;
James .Taylor, Esq. treasurer:
ARBROATIT.—Andrew Duncan, Esq. provost;
William Andson,Esq. and David Muir, Esq. baillies ;
George Philips, Esq. ',dean of guild; Mr. Patrick
Wilson, treasurer.

BRECHIN.—James Speid, Esq. provost ; John
Guthrie, Esq. David Ogilvy, Esq.. baillies ; Alex-
ander M`Kinlay, Esq. dean of guild; Mr. David
Guthrie, treasurer.
EDINBURGH. Walter Brown, Esq. provost;
Messrs. Robert Smith, Claud Muirhead, A. Lawrie,
and Robert Ritchie, bailies ; James Hill, dean of
guild ; Adam Luke, treasurer.
ELGlN.—Alexander Innes,'Esq: provost; Messrs.
'Lewis Anderson, Francis Cruickshank, John John-
stone, and Geo. Robertson, bailies; James Petrie,
dean of guild ; David Connie, treasurer.
DumFatEs.--William Mackie, Esq. provost ;
Messrs. John M`George, John Fraser, and Walter
Newall, bailies; Christopher Armstrong, dean of
guild ; James Swan, treasurer.
DUNDEE.--Alexander Balfour, Esq. provost ;
Thomas Bell, Esq., James Smith, Esq., John Sy-
mers, Esq. and Andrew Brown, Esq. bailies ; David
Esq:, treasurer.

DUMBARTON.—Jacob Dixon, Esq. provost; Jacob
Dixon, Jun. Esq. and James Davidson, Esq. bailies ;
Mr. John M'Alister, dean of guild ; Mr. William
Ewing, treasurer.

FORFAR.—John Yeaman, Esq. provost ; John
Brown,'Esq. and James Murray, Esq. baillies; Mr,
David Neisb, treasurer.

GutsGow.--The Hon. Wm. Hamilton, Lord
provost; Wm. Graham, jun. fhsq., Wm. Gray, Esti:,
John Smith, youngest, Esq., merchant bailies; John
Alston, Esq. Arch. M‘Lellan, jun. Esq. trades' bailies.
GREENOCK.---William Leitch, Esq. and James
Hunter, Esq. bailies; Roger Aytoun, Esq. treasurer.
INVERARY.--Peter Campbell, Esq. provost; John
Anderson, Esq. and Alex. Skinner, Esq. bailies ;
Mr. R. Fogo, dean of guild ; Mr. David Black, pro-
curator-fiscal; Mr. C. Morrison, W. B.; Mr. D.
Munro, treasurer; Mr. Dun. Fletcher, writer, town
clerk.

JEDuttox.---William Hope, Esq., provost;
Messrs. Robert Rutherford, Robert Bell, Andrew
Mein, and James Jackson, bailies ; Mr. George
Heilson, senior, dean of guild; Mr. William Veitli,

LANARK.—Robert Hutchinson, Esq. provost;
Thomas Hewit, Esq. dean of guild : John Annan,
Esq. and Archibald Haddow, Esq. bailies ; John
M'Donald, convener of the trades ; R. Galloway.
treasurer.

LINLITHGOW.--john Boyd, Esq. of Woodside,
provost and sheriff; John Gibson, Esq. William
?,felson, Esq. Robert Spence, Esq. and Alex. Clark,
.Esq. bailies and sheriffs; Christopher Davie, Esq.
dean of guild ; 'William Gardener, Esq. treasurer.
LOCHMAREN.—Robert Hensiorsou, Esq. provost ;
John Wells, Thomas Brown, Robert Bryden, bailies;
John Feed, dean of guild ; "James Johnstone, trea-
surer; John Irving Henderson, Esq. advocate, Mr.
John Smith, new councillors.-

MUSSELBURGII.—James Kemp, Esq. and John
Leitch, Esq. bailies; Robert Aitken; Esq. treasurer;
Mr. James Scott, tertius, and John Legat, council-
lors.; Mr. George Thomson, clerk.
MONTROSE.—George Paton, Esq. provost ; David
Kinnear, Esq. George Shand, Esq. and George
Crawford, Esq. bailies ; John Ferguson, Esq. dean
of guild; John Barclay, jun. Esq. treasurer.
PEEBLES.—WiIIiam Turnbull, Esq. provost ; Mr.
John Dickson and Mr. James Turnbull, bailies;
Mr. James Spalding, dean of guild; Mr. Alexander
Wilkie, treasurer.

POLLOCKSHAWS.--Mr. John Ralston, provost ;
Mr. Andrew Blackburn, bailie.

PERTH.—Robert Ross, Esq. of Oakbank, provost,
sheriff and coroner; James Norwell, Esq. dean of
guild ; John Wright, Esq. John Ross, jun. Esq. and
Dr. William Malcolm, merchant bailies ; Henry
Hepburn, Esq. trades' bailie; David Robertson,
Esq. town treasurer.

PABLEv.--Mathew Boyd, Esq. provost ; William
Gilmour, Esq. John Lymburn, Esq. and Andrew
Gibson, Esq. bailies ; Peter Kerr, Esq. treasurer.
QuEENsFEaßY.—Campbell Lines, Esq. first bailie
and chief magistrate; Mr. Hugh Russell, second
bailie : Mr. James Girdwood, third bailie; Mr.
William Meikle, treasurer.

RENFREW.—Robert King, Esq. provost; Adam
Boyd, Esq. and John Brown, Esq. bailies ; James
Wallace, dean of guild ; Alex. M'William, treasurer.
SANQUEIAR.—Thomas Chriehton, Esq. provost ;
Alex. Harvey, James Hair, Geo. Lorimer, liailies ;
John Allison, dean of guild; ...ft W. M‘Queen,
town-clerk ; Jahn Laurie, town treasurer.

The- h ing of Saxony has given orders to kill
all the black game of the Royal forests, which has been pre-
served hitherto, in order to diminish as much as possible
the number of wild beasts. The rest of the game is to be
inclosed in a park. To carry this oiler into execution, a
grand hunting, at which the young Princes assisted, has
already taken place. There will no longer be any forced
hunting matches, which will cause a great reduction of
expence, and there will no longer be any occasion to grant
indemnification for the damage done by the game to the
peasants.

NEW OATS.—That eminent agriculturist
Mr. Cunningham, of Dolphinston, East Lothian, has, for the
two last seasons, introduced a new specks of oats, the seed
of which he procured from England, which bids fair to be
extensively cultivated. In the absence of a more appro-
priate name, they may be designated the naked oats, being
without husk. One boll was last week manufactured into
meal, which produced the astonishing quantity of thirty
three pecks Dutch weight, or 82 lbs. avoirdupois each
peck. We understand Mr. C. intends to keep the remain-•
der for seed.

During the siege of Boston, General Wash-
ington consulted Congress upon the propriety of bombard-
ing the town. Mr. Hancock nas then President of Coil-
gress. After General Washington's letter was read, a
solemn :silence ensued. This was broken by a member
making a motion that the House should resolve itself into a
Committee of the whole, in order that Mr. Hancock might
d, from having all his estate in Boston. After he left
give his opinion upon the subject, as he was so deeply in-
ttleL chair,
este
he addressed the Chairman of the Committee of
the following words :--" It is true, Sir,
nearly
vlaullet, in
he property
I have in the world is in houses and
other real estate in the town of Boston ; but if the expul-
sion of the British army from it, and the liberties of our
country, require their being burnt to ashes, issue the orders
for that purpose immediately."
THE PHANTOM SHlP.—About ten o'clock
on Sunday evening, it being moon-light, some of our
fishermen, while on the cliff, discovered, as they thought,
a Hastings lug-sail boat coming round the chain pier, and
so confident were they. of the fact, that they made imme-
diate preparations to go off to her ; but while they were
thus engaged, the object of their solicitude in an instant
disappeared, and they saw her no more. The circum-
stance, at the time, appeared to them very mysterious, and
has since, we understand, become matter of much curious
conversation. This curious circumstance has since been
explained to us in the following manner :_A
boat from
the Hyperion frigate, lying in Newhaven harbour, came
round the pier at the time stated, lowering her sail, and
the moon not giving sufficient light for the hull to be seen,
led to the mistake, which has given rise to so many fanciful
and ridiculous remarks,..-Brighton Herald.

Two additional Reports of the Commissioners
of Irish Education Inquiry, the eighth and
ninth, have just been distributed. The eighth
is very voluminous, and relates to the College of
Nlaynooth. The ninth relates to the education
'of the body of the people.
They who have ,a strong appetite for Contro-
versial Theology, will find a very abmidant mess
of it in the Appendix ,to the Eighth Report.—
The Decree .of the Council of Lateran respect-
Heretics, the case of John Huss, the 6
Infal-
libility of the Pope, &c. Btc. are presented in the
various examinations . under every variety of
aspect. There is a good deal of subtlety dis-
played by the Catholic Professors and. Clergy-
men examined ; and it is hardly possible, we
think, to read their evidence without being
struck with the superiority of the Catlicißcs
the arts of controversy to the Protestants. We
are not speaking of the fanatics and enthusiasts
Who hold forth at meetings in this country, and
Who sing always the same song, but men of edu-
cation and learning.
This may partly be 'accounted for by the po-
lemical training which the Students receive at
Catholic Seminaries. For instance, the Rev.
N. Sleven, D.D., Prefect of the Dunboyne Es-
tablishment, and Librarian, Maynooth, gives the
following evidence :
" Are the Dunboyne Students eexercised in
polemical,disputation upon the pointsin controversy
between different classes of Christians ?—Not par-
ticularly; the subjects of the public exercises are
taken promiscuously. from the treatises which they
read in the course of the year, and frequently ques-
tions of controversy occur in these Treatises.
" Does it ever happen, that in order to.maintain
an argument; one of them is desired to support the
Protestant side of any controverted question ?;--As
often as a polemical question occurs it is so ; the per-
son who objects, supports the Protestant side, whe-
ther he be a Student or a Professor.

" From what sources does he take his arguments
on these occasions ?—From any author he pleases;
he may consult Protestant authors, or he may con-
sult our TheOlogians, who give the objections made
by Protestants to our tenets.

" Would there be any risk of his incurring disap-
probation if he were to maintain that side of the
question with too much energy ?—No danger at all
of disapprobation ; he would be applauded for his
acuteness.

" Has such a circumstance ever arisen ?—I do not
recollect that an instance of the sort has happened.
" Has it ever happened that a young man should
maintain the Protestant side of the dispute with
More energy than might be deemed advisable ?
Never; and even if he should put down his anta-
gonist, he would not be reprimanded, but applauded.
In the failure of the respondent, it becomes the duty
of the Professor to explain the difficulty."

" Are there any other public disputations in May-
nooth except the maintaining of particular themes
of which you have spoken ?-1 mentioned the
monthly disputations held by the Members of the
Dunboyne establishment ; each of the Professors of
Theology also holds in his respective class a public
disputation once a month.
• " Are there any others that you have heard of ?
—No others.
• " We find in the Statutes the following order, re-
lating to the Dunboyne Scholars; Bis saltem in
heb domada coloquiis ecclesiasticis intersint,'—what
is the meaning of that ?--This statute ordains that
they should meet twice a week, and hold con-
ferences.

" Pray explain the nature of these conferences?
—Before my appointment, the Students of the Dun-
boyne establishment had no Professor; they were
left to themselves ; and the statute which has been
read directs that they should hold conferences on
subjects of theology, twice a week among them-
selves. By the regulations which the Board made
at the time of my appointment, the mode of pro-
ceeding was changed, and three conferences weekly
were enjoined.
Do they continue to hold these conferences
now ?—They hold them with me; but instead of
two, we now hold three weekly.
Then the conference has become a lecture ?—lt
has; they have been placed under the direction of a
Prefect.

' 4‘ Do the Students assist in the conference them-
selves ; do they state objections ?—They do, occa-
sionally,,as directed by the Professor. A subject is
marked out for each succeeding conference, which
they account for; they hold disputations as often as
the subject may require it." „

We-are merely accounting for the dexterity in
disputation which the Catholics seem to have,
without offering any opinion as to the advantage
of the course pursued.

It appears to us that the Catholics have not
gained much in the way of avoiding disputes by
Popes and Councils. They are infallible only,
according to the Maynooth professors, when
they propound matters of 'faith and morals to the
universal Church ; so that in order to know the
degree of authority to which their mandates are
entitled, the head under which they are to be
classified must be known. But here is the dif-
ficulty--it is not an 'easy matter to tell whether a
particular point is or is not to be considered as
!Idling under the head Faith or Morals. We
shall allow Dr. Sleven- to state his opinion on
this ticklish subject in his own words : .
" Perhaps I should add to the Observations". have.
Made on the-power claimed by Popes, that I do not
consider. it at all necessary to vindicate the conduct
of Popes in all their proceedings, or to support that
someral
themopfolv power
i
didure notiv
irneoa;l y d
even
e raed that
l claim tern-
p
tlicy did claim it, nothing would follow injurious to
the principles of Catholic doctrine. All Catholics
acknowledge that the Pope may err on all points-
whatsoever, not appertaining to faith or morals; and
whether he can err even in matters of faith and
Morals is a question upon which we are at perfect
liberty to adopt either side. The opinion affirming -
that the Pope may err, even when he proposes mat-
ters of faith and morals to the universal Church, is
supported by a number of our best Divines. From
the admission, therefore, that a Pope had defined ex
Cathedra the temporal right, no inference. injurious
Catholic tenets could be drawn.

" When you say in matters relating to faith, what
are we to understand by that expression mean
in propounding matters of faith or morals to the uni-
versal Church, to be received, believed, and practis-
ed as revealed doctrine. ,No Divine has asserted
that the Pope is infallible in matters of fact, or in
the private exercise of his judgment; those who
assert his infallibility attribute to him this gift only
when, after mature examination, and after fervently
invoking the light of the Holy Ghost as head
of the Church, he proposes to the whole body of
the Church any doctrine to be believed as revealed,
dr any rule of morals to be practised as necessary.
" He may, therefore, in a matter which indirectly
relates to faith, err ?—Most certainly; the warmest
advocates of the Pope's authority have at all times