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towards neutral nations in amity
which those measures might in an
he had, upon full consideration
thrown out by an Honourable N
wren this subject was in the
night, determined to forego the
on Salt exported to America, _
Duty on Salt sent to other nations
country. The Honourable Gentleman, upon a fir-
mer night, expressed an opinion that revenue was the
object of this tax, and that, in this view, it would be
the more obnoxious to America, as it would savour,
in a strong d ,of the same inimical principle
avowed towarnstile nations ; but when the Ho-
nourable Member considered that the whole average
quantity of salt annually exported from this country
to America, did not exceed 1'200,000 bushels, and that
at &1. per bushel, this would produce only about
15,0001. he must feel, that if revenue were the pur-
pose, he would have chosen some more solid and pro-
ductive object, and his design would have been mani-
fested in some other shape. But, however, lest the
duty should produce any feeling of jealousy to Ame-
rica. or any country in the world in amity with Great
Britain, he was desirous to withdraw every part of
the proposed duties on salt exported to such countries,
and he therefore hoped the House would dissent from
this Resolution.
Mr. BARING said, that as the Right Hon. Gent
tleman had agreed to withdraw the duty, he had no
Occasion to trouble the House farther.
Mr. PONSONBY said, that any disposition of
receding from the principle of the Orders in Council,
in any instance evinced by the Right Honourable
Gentleman, was to him satisfactory. He hoped this
instance would' be followed up by a recedence from
all the other parts of the system, one after another. 1,
It would then wear its true character ; that of an
ideot's tale, full of sound and fury and meaning no.l
thig.te
question was then put, and the clause reject-1
ed ; and the duty of 9d. per pound on the export of
Cotton was also agreed to, and leave given to bring
in a Bill upon the remaining clauses.
Mr. EDEN wished to ask the Right Honourable
Gentleman, as he expressed a desire to avoid exciting
arty harsh feelings with neutral powers, whether it
was his intention to prohibit the importation of cot-
ton direct from America to any of his Majesty's
Islands, or to permit neutrals to import cotton the
produce bf French colonies, to neutral ports in ai
with this country ; for instance, to Gottenburghnaintl
Messina ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER an-
swered, that so many questions might be asked almost
upon every clause of the bill, that he must defer giv-
ing the Honourable Gentleman a full answer until'
to-morrow, when the Bill would again come under
discussion, and when he should be ready to give the
fullest explanation in his power upon all its parts.—
He had no objection for the present to say, that all
commerce in the produce of the French colonies must
be considered as in prohibition, so long as it was
found necessary to continue in force the Orders of
Council.

PETITION FOR PEACE:
Colonel STANLEY presented 3 Petition, signed
by certain residents of the town of Bolton, Lanca-
shire, praying— -
" The House to address his Majesty, Mustily beseeching him
to leave no moans untried, consistent withqbe honour and d' it
of his crown, and the welfare of his kingdiun, to restore to
faithful subjects the blessings of Peace. The Petitioners added,
that they were urged to this Petition by the consequences a war
Twhich has shut out their manufactures from the Continent of Eu-
pe, whereby thousands of the Petitioners, ingenious and indus-
trious artisans, are deprived of employment, and the wages of
others so lessened, as to bring the greatest distress upon themselves
and their families, numbers of whom were thereby rendered desti-
tute of the necessaries of life. They farther state, that their dis-
tresses only, and not any dread of the enemy, had induced them
to petition for Peace; for, hirl
should the enemy persist in demand.
ing unreasonable terms, there were no privations w they
were n:t ready to suffer, rather than urge the conclusion of mg
Peace derogatory to the onour and happiness of their King and

Country."
The Petition having been read, Colonel Stanley
moved that it do lie on the table.
Mr. Secretary CANNING immediately rose and
said, that so far was he from giving any opposition
to the motion for this petition to lie on the table, that
he wished it to remain there in the continual view and.
contemplation of the House. Standing in the situa-
tion he had the honour to fill, he trusted that the
House would do him the justice to believe, he felt as
sincerely for the distresses of which that Petition com-
plained, as any of the Petitioners who had signed it ;
and if such a measure as that which the Petitioners
sought could of itself abstractedly produce permanently
and securely, the remedy desired, there could be but
one opinion on the propriety of seeking it, as the
greatest blessing. He would say for himself and his
colleagues, that as it would be their first chty, so
it would be their highest satisfaction to promote an
object so truly desirable. But although he was ready
to concede to the friends of the petition that war must
unavoidably, in its consequences, occasion- distress
and embarrassments to various classes of industrious
persons, and that peace must be extremely *desirable
to every friend of humanity—yet he felt, th'it to sue
for that peace to the enemy with wham we were now
eng:;ged, feunded upon petitions like this, and fet-
tered with such terms as he was disposed to,demand,
would not be the way to obtain the obje& of the pe-
titioners, namely, a secure, permanent, and honourable
peace, such only as could be consistent with the cha-
racter, the prosperity, and the lasting happiness of
this country. He hoped the House and the country
would give to his Majesty's Ministers the credit to
which they were fully enitled for an earnest and anxi-
ous svikh at ill times to restore peace to the country,
upon such terms only as it would be desirable or could
be permanent. For this object, they had never ceased
to wish as ,:arnestly as any class- of his Majesty's sub-
jects—for this, they were always cli.-sed and ready
to treat upon fair and honourable grounds—for this,
they had left no means unattended to, nor would they
fail to embrace any opportunity that could lead to a
conciimmation so truly to be desired. But, however
painful the task of prolonging the war, the highly
responsible situation in which they stood, bound them
to act to the best of their judgment for the honour and
the permanent happiness of the country at large, and
not precipitately to sacrifice both to the pressure of
temporary disadvantages and local embarrassment--
This would not be the way to realize the objects prayed
by the . lition, but to disappoint, in the worst possi-
ble mode, the prayer of the Petitioners.
The petition was ordercd to lie on the table.

rime= strisiell
ip reference to son*. olfseiv.a.
the first night of the session, te-
' Treaty then ne..otiating with
Right Honouralle Gentientari
. secretary Canning) having then
have very shorty his Majesty's

, that subject lefert-raruari.....--
nothing more having since transpired- upon the sub-
h
t, e
wished now to know from the Right
honourable Secretary, of the rumour, whether it
was true, that money had since been sent to he Svedish
Government ; and if so, whether it was sent under
any treaty already subsisting, or any new one more
recently concluded, as some information was certainly
dui to die House ?
Mr. Seettuiry CANNING said, the reason why he
had not sooner said any thing on the subject was, that
no accounts frdm Sweden had for some time arrived,
there being eight Gottenburgh Mails d at once
is-
.
He had, however, within a day
or two uc
received d
patches from the King's Minister at the Court of
Stockholm, stating, that a treaty had been concluded
with Sweden, and so soon as he should receive a copy
he should lay it before Parliament. Certainly some
money had been sent to Swedenon account of subsidy.
COTTON AND BARE EXPORT PROHIBITION'.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in
pursuance of the intimation he had given on Friday,
moved, that the House do resolve itself into a Com-
mittee, to consider the expediency of prohibiting al-
together the exportation of cotton wool, the produce
urueutral nations, and Peruvian bark, from this court..
WT. With respect to the first, he had explained to
the House fully his object, when moving the duty of
9d. per pound on all cotton wool exported from this
country, which would amount nearly to priihibition.
This duty included all cotton wool, both British, Co.
ianial, and neutral produce. But as he understood
from those best informed upon the subject, that a re-1
gulation more agreeable to the feelings of America
especially, would be to prohibit altogether the export
of cotton the produce of neutral nations, than affect I
it in the way of impost, his object now was to move a
resolution in the Committee to that effect, with a view
hOwever, to reserve to his Majesty, in any Bill for the
Furpose, a pow& of granting licences for such export,
m certain cases. And with respect to the article of
bark, it was one of the utmost importance to the ene•
my for the use of his armies, and for which at present
the want was extreme and the demand excessive, inso-
much that although the market price in this country
was but 10s. per pound, the present price in Paris
was 70s. Every possible attempt had been made to
export it from this country, notwithstanding all pro-
hibitions. Now he conceived one of the best modes
of forcing the enemy to abandon the rigour of his
decrees, was to increase his distress for an article we
possessed in plenty, but which to him was so essential;
thereby forcing the admission of other articles of Bri-
tish manufacture along with it, as the condition of its
attainment.
He accordingly moved, and the House went into
the Committee. Resolved that the measures were ex-
pedient, and leave was given to bring in a Bill.
COPENHAGEN PAPERS.
In answer to'a question from the Chancellor of the
Exchequer, respecting the day proposed by Mr. She.
ridan for his question on this subject, the latter Right
Hon. Gentleman appointed next Thursday : and
while oh- his legs he gave notice of his intention to re-
vive speedily a subject which he had by no means
abandoned, namely, the regulation of publicans' licen-
ces in Westminster.

• DROITS OF ADMIRALTY.
Sir FRANCIS BURDETT wished to know from
the Right Honourable Chancellor of the Exchequer,
how soon the Papers for which he had moved respec-
ting the Droits of Admiralty, would be laid before
the House?
The CHANCELLOR .of the EXCHEQUER
answered the Honourable Baronet, that the Papers
were so voluminous, it would be some considerable,
time before they could• be in readiness ; and as to the
amount of such prizes adjudged to his Majesty, there
were so many claimants upon those funds after adju-
dication, that although he himself had long wished
for a similar account, he had not been able to attain it,
so difficult was it tomake such a return with accuracy.
ORDERS OF COUNCIL SILL.
Mr. WHARTON brought up the report of the
Committee on the Bill.
Mr. TIERNEY opposed the Bill upon the ground
of the total irregularity in its origination, and conse-
qnently in all the subsequent proceedings upon it.—
He contended, that as it was a Bill of Supply, impo-
sing taxes, and at the same time professing to regu-
late trade, the two objects ought not to have been con-
founded in one and the same Bill. The former ought
to have originated in a Committee of Ways and
Means ; and the latter in a Committee of Trade ; and
in defect of those modes, the Bill ought to commence

by delivering it to the
MOUS." Mr. Horneg f
presenting the Petition, .
the notice, and he propOsed
called upon, to know
been delivered in to hi
the Standing Order.
1,-- The SPEAKER ,
Which was partly bew
4ble alteratir had taken
EuHouse since the -.
~ uence of , the Act
. .ght the best way
' Proceed would to i
Wise Could embrace ._
come to a direct decision
be pleased to state his cg
then be able to determine
course to pursue.
Mr. HORNER
that the Hon. C. An,
ber, on the ‘l7th of J,
required, give notice .
to produce his qualifical
hal not produced the
;a.
eil m, and that the
lits having complied
bad, however, renewed
the commencement ,'
deliiered in what he
lification ; but it was
cient ; and that by -
o,tier in the last session,
benefit under it in --
constitution of the .
by the passing of Mr
since the Standing
thought the petitioner
forfeited the right
had looked for precedents
found none which f,
three or four, and
Chester, in which
for his qualification
within the 15 dav-
Standing Order, _
of his seat. He was
were extremely taut
degree, infringed -
them for redress,
specting elections .
stances of the presem
had, by his own •
Cher heard on the
tion to move thy:.
the petition into
ratory to which he
Hon. C. Anderson

his qualification,
The SOLICITO,
don, on the ground,
called Mr. Gnat,
only one branch
tent to discharge
suance of the direction
Act of the whole
made to take thq
was then moved
Gentleman, that
House, ho cont'
in the teeth of an
Learned Gentleman
in which the sitting
for not having '-
time prescribed
and the case of t
from that of the
to be a case in •
the same point
tioner. It was,
Affleck, who
tain electors
failed to give __
ing it was proved
Committee thor
tive in all cases,
ed in the Ho•
Commodore':
was, his having
out of the count
was no proof
try, nor was
plying with the
tleman was •
pliance with
terests of the
before the passing
ground on whist'
was, that the "
der for a. Comm
any but such -
and that this
he need not
which the
might draw
burial which
and so bring
the House.
'vote against
and negativ

de novo.
This produced a conversation of considerable length.
in which the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Mr. Rose,
and Mr. Huskisson, supported the Bill in its present
form; as did the Speaker, in his opinion from the chair.
Mr. TIERNEY defended his original idea, and the
result was, that the Bill was ordered to be recommit-
ted on Wednesday, with an instruction to the Corn- I
mittee, empowering them to divide the Bill into two, The Order
if they should thinlc fit. Oude Papers
COMMITTEE OF WAYS AND MEANS. Lord Fl
The House having resolved into a Committee of now taken .
Ways and Means, Mr. C RE.
Mr. FOSTER moved several resolutions similar Proposition,
to those voted here, imposing duties on the same anti- cause it was
des in Ireland, with the exception of the difference in decision ui
the quantum in sum and in the drawbacks, which were without at
agreed to. • question of
The House resumed, and the report was ordered to because it
be received to-morrow. so have digested
GREAT GRIMSBY ELECTION. lumes, and
Mr. HORNER rose to make the motion of which nistration
he had given notice, relative to the Petition of Mr. teen years,
Loft, complaining of an undue election fur the 80. persons, and
rough of (",neat Grimsby, in Lincolnshire. He first into comparison
moved, that the standing, order, relative to the de- mouth and
mand of the qualification of the Petitioner, should be Marquis 1
'read, and was read accordingly, and was to the fol- merits of
lowing purport : " That the sitting Member, wishing conduct
to have the qualification of the Petitioner produced, man were
gave notice of his intention within 15 days of present- in such
ing the Petition, and that in 15 days after receiving should be
such notice, the Petitioner should produce -the same, as to con'

\dons
city with this M' , . tiwEr
any degree a.l that Mr. -. PoNSONBY,
FT;
on of the sng • be tad made on 1
Member (Mr. •ii speteitta Subsidiary
Committee on riday", swedgy►$wedgy► said► that a
Le tax of 3d. per bushet opposite to him (Mr.
, and also the Export said, he expected to
dons in amity with this woman& to lay that
__ ..s..:— ...sear, halikle

Clerkioris:anniseat i
within,that
thatf
t Within 15 dthtedaays7Tisetisoaitictirc44‘.lo,o... 1e1a"a11...1
e, the sittinghuithetlee etcHinmlt:ber:sepshheciatiofaud-curitel! '
0:,':::' henifir.faril-"H"1
..• •
ot whether the qualification b,,s- 0 ''l' rec--
, eras o.
said; that as this Seas 3, ~_ o Ineothell
wto the House, and a antiro. .s. al an'
aken place in the constitution": ~ firdiioural
standing order was made, i -0,,,:, 1 ilatterstosi."
:t called. Mr. Grenville's Act, i,.-- ' :- c
y for the Honourable Member P' a variet
CI take the. first *Ant •.7 4. ..- o
on which
ce the subject with tropism Lhe 40-f.i. fn
cision on it. He would thil'o•-- Vit 'actur°-
liii case, and the frolise „mill ipess not a 5
, car
ertnina what would beabe fi--..' SS DWI `--
tiL
jhtllhiuediCanaecserSaamitUP:nem7::ieeditbhihdduale:ttnthwth,
ifta,l::inithlsierttintt° his -oits ta 1 111::act;cullae: wwil
,e to the Petitioner, calling ai aint
dkewisethsctih7ie ibioatdicec(.'m'llltittedPelttiltion%64 .'
r.llll6:'ce:4ll:elehanieer-11
owed his petition within 15 oeTsai iificastinn
wi'
,'
it of the present session, and prince
he dared to say was a regularon. that all 11
was his opinion, that Was nut stli. oulicy WI
session, he stood
materially
diallerey ye
y not complying with the Standen -;ocae.kras
alteran. Strapcgtiliwtesa, :
the present. He alloyed tbattht 'the. Hon
House was very
vli. Grenville's Act, which weskit). Iras..mw,%ll)
ag Order was made ; but still he t.:,..-----n,
inerhadby the ornission4last •
dot
Lt which he before possessed. He . cnil;
oecedents on the subject, bat had 4hig a'
I applied to the petitioner. He cited Isoosan.,oV
d particularly dwelt vii that of Cut. ;„--:
the sitting member w•as called ce "'",,,..-il
Lion 1 and not having produced it ''"'-",a -;`,
Lys, according to the terms of tle
......,'”--"o' 2-
he was by the Committee deprival .15r-o.„oo.".,--
was aware, he said, that the Heat
cautious how they, lit the smalies "II"-
lon the right of any person to petition Here
, and how important all petitions* Cretve
is were ; yet, under all the onto lakof
resent case, he thought the petition of tact
neglect, forfeited his ri ato k fur. who w
e subject. It was thereiore his inteo Dr.
it the order for a Committee to that h
bean
consideration be discharged, ma. ''
he moved that the notice given by the tea:s c
eon Pelham to Mr. Loft to prod= 10°11
4 be read. think;
ITOR GENERAL opposed the ma' Th
Was i
mad, that since the passing of the Ac
ville's Act, the House; as furmirg kite 1
m
.. T 1
h of the Legislature, was not camp
ge an order which it had made in po Peter
Erection and enactment of a positive Syne
,ole Legislature. An order had beet Imo*
the petition into consideration, and it,
'ed by the Honourable and -, . Was
tat'-the order be discharged; but .
itended, had no power to do it directly 11.1 c
tax
an Act of Parliament. The Hon. and l
:Leman had stated the case of Colchester,' • lei
itting member was deprived of his sat,
th
; delivered in his qualification within& ;
al • but that was done by a Committee,
i the sitting member was very differH
he petitioner. There happened
s that very borough of Cokhester,whete •
st
it was determined in favour of the peti:
be
s, he believed, in the case of Commodon
was not the petitioner himself, but re , °I
on his behalf.. Commodore Aged- PI
in his qualification, and notwitbstani
el
roved that notice had been given, ti
Nought the standing order not so impel
c
Lses, and Commodore Afßeck Was set
-louse. He believed the reason of d . 2
i
's not having complied with the nod c
ing -been obliged to go to sea, and be 1
country. In the present case, .:
,f that aatpthp:repnetthitoiownehrewcaames outtoofetih:it
.., ..„4...;1;
the notice. Tho Hon. and Learned • .!
also mistaken in his idea, that wino ~ o i
i the Standing Order was fatal to the
.e petitioner. That order was made . , •`
Dossing of Mr. Grenville's Act, and .
which he (the Solicitor General) • ...: •
he House had no power to discharge nor
Committee which they had once madei
ch cases as were provided for by the Ac
is was not one of those cases. He as
It say a word on the extreme caution si
House should avoid any thing vii
r these subjects out of the hands of theta
ch had been instituted to determine dies
rig them again under the consideration' •
He should, therefore, give his Acrid
st the motion, which was immediately r
ived. .
MARQUIS WFI.LESLEY.
Wcirser inoftothcoensiDdaeraqeciming,
'OLKSTONE moved that these payer,
t into consideration. read fort aking: ..
kEEVEY rose to give his negative too.
an, for two reasons t—ln the first plat,' . •
was impossible fur the House to come 01
ipon the conduct of the Marquis Waled '
Lt the same time deciding upon the go
of Indian policy ; and in the second plli _
t was quite impossible that Gentlemeaca"
ligested materials which would till eevre„,
ad which had been collected from the A.,
t of that country, Oaring a period of
rs, which had been moved for by •%.
and with different views, and which '
nipad the
risorimthag
erAuicins iitiistratis
Wellesley, as to be able to decicidecide.
of that complicated system with
and character of the last mentioned
e inseparably interwoven. The Pape*
Cornwallisn s
with ofLo
thd Lord Ta:
confusion that it was indispensible . .
he arranged before they could be pe • .
t
nvey the infarmatiee necessary to
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