The Sun.
London, England, 1845-04-01 00:00:00

to another country? The Americans had said, "We
must have the whole of the right bank of-the St. John's.
We cannot allow the British to cross the river." The
demands of America arose as she found them readily ac-
ceded to, and they obtained possession of a further terri-
tory which we granted to their claims. It was certainly his
(Lord John Russell's) opinion that in those treaties the
interests of this country had not been sufficiently at-
tended to. This might be thought a partial opinion ;
but it was one he had always maintained, for when in
office, in concurrence with his Noble Friend, he had in-
structed Lord Sydenham as to the negotiations with
America; and he had also, in conjunction with the Noble
Lord, conveyed to Lord Sydenham their approbation for
having broken off those negotiations. The Right Hon.
Baronet had said that these were matters to
keep up a hostile and vindictive. feeling, and that a
better and more moderate tone would tend to the
consolidation and preservation of peace. He .(Lord John
Russell) hoped that no one could accuse him of being
insensible to the blessings of peace, but he also thought
that this was not exactly the best mode of procuring
peace. The language which they might consider conci-
liatory other persons might call piisillanimoue and weak,
and the consideration that the Government might
have gained more if they had shown a somewhat in-
creased determination.—(Hear, hear.) lie at the same
time gave the Government the fullest credit for never
having consented to anything which they really con-
sidered injurious to the interest or derogatory to the
honour of th, it eeuntrv. The Right Live. Baronet had
asked his Nolie Friend to specify a case in which the
Government had not rated the honour of England suf-
ficieetly high. He would mention one in which he
thought the Government standard had been placed a
great deal too low—he meant the case of Spain ; and he
complained that in the transactions relative t that
country they bad not ascribed their submi,sion to the
power of France, but to a revolution of opinion in Spain
itself. He would not. touch on the other mesriens as he
intended to bring them forward on u future night.
Dr. Lushington, as far as he was aware of his opinion,
held thrit the right of searob was ore of the most effica-
cious means by which the errantry coulti pot down the
slave trade, and he believed that the formation of thin
Commission was solely ownig to an excitem•nt in France
upon the- eubject, and that it was deemed expedient to
give way to that excitement. I-I i did not contend that
the leading men in France laid any great stress upon it.;
but still this. he thought, led to its formation. He was
of opinion that, on such a subject, it would have been
better for the Government of this country to have at
once, and directly, treated with the Government of
France, ,for he thought it too important to be
left. to the decision of two Commissioners.
The Right Hon. Baronet had admitted that were both
Governments increasing the number of cruisers upon
the African coast, that course would be more efficacious
for putting down the slave trade than any other. With
respect to the vote before the (louse, he was glad the
Government had determined to inch ase the naval force
of the country, and he therefore thought that sufficient
reason had been shown for the Committee acceding to
the vote. Theme was, however, another subj.- ct
upon which he wished to make one or two
remarks.—(Hear.) He alluded to the employment
of steamers for naval purpeses. He did not desire to
disturb the present power of the Beard of Admiralty,
with regard to the employment of steamers in a general
point of view ; but with regard to . their employ-
ment for carrying on a war, he thought it would
be exceedingly. useful to have E commission con-
sisting of scientific persons to inquire into and
report upon this branch of the subject. At the same
time he wished it to be understood that he had no de-.
sire to disturb the present functions of the Board of Ad-
miralty, but he thought a report of- a body of scientific
gentlemen on the subject would assist, instead of embar-
rass, them. Upon those grounds he was inclined to
support the vote.
Captain PECHELL was sorry to interpose at that
late hour, but it would be seen that he had given notice
of an amendment to that vote, and he thought it would
be his duty not to omit that opportunity of mentioning
it. The case of a class of officers, who had a strong
claim upon that House, had been entrusted to him,
but, somehow or other, db,cussions of a political tendency
had prevented him from bringing it forward. He might
be told that he could bring it forward upon any other
vote, but unless he could come to some understanding
with the Gallant Officer opposite, he should feel it his im-
perative duty to proceed with it at once. He had, how-
ever, great faith in the humanity and integrity of the
Gallant Officer; and he trusted the Gallant Officer would
suggest-, some remedy for the evils of which the parties
for whom he pleaded complained.—(Hear, hear.)
Sir G. COCKBURN suggested that the Gallant Officer
might move his amendment upon the vote relating to
wages being-brought forward.
And, upon the recommendation of Mr. Hum and Sir
C. NAPIER,
Captain PECHELL said he Would adopt the course
recommended by the Gallant Admiral. •
Sir CHARLES NAPIER took that opportunity of
giving notice that upon the wages vote being proposed
he would bring the condition of the masters before the
Committee, and also the propriety of advancing seamen's
wages.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. HINDLEY was, on the whole, not opposed to
the vote, but he protested against the principle which
argued that it was necessary to augment the naval force
of the country for preserving peace.
The vote was then.agre,d to.
The Chairman was ordered to report pr:gres.
The Howe then resumed, and the Chairman reported
accordiagiy, anl obtai..el leave to sit again.
Customs Duties Act, hind the Pu'sdic MuFeunit
Aitt, ,a ere severally read a second time.
The House then adjourned- at ten minute:: past
Twelve o'Clock.

The folowing is a list of the sleam-ships and frigates,
with their cost and tonnage, referred to by sir Charles
Napier in his admirable speech last night on the Nay)
Estimates:—