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London, England, 1820-10-25 00:00:00

WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 25, 1820.

PARLIAMENT.

lIOUSE OF LORDS-YESTERDAY.

THE QUEEN'S DEFENCE.

Continuation of the Cross-examination of Captain

BRIGGS by Mr. BROUGHAM.
Q. You mentioned to him-(Lieut. Hownam)
what Captain Pechell had said of Bergami : then
Pechell, I suppose, had made some difficulty,
had started some objection to her Royal High-
ness dining on board his ship ?—A. He positively
refused to sit .down with Bergami ; he had no
objection at to her Royal Highness.
lie would not sit down with Bergami ?—I do
not know that positively, as I was not on board
that ship.

What led to the conversation you were speak-
ing of ; were you talking about Bergami sit-
ting down to her Royal Highness's table ?—No,
not about that.

I understood the conversation to begin with a
statement that Captain Pechell had seen Ber-
gami standing behind.his chair ?—No.
You have mentioned the observation Lieute-
nant llolknam made to you, did that observation
operate on Captain Pechell as a reason against
his sitting down at the same table with Her-
gami I—No, I cannot say that ; it occurred long
afterwards ; it was when Captain Pechell saw her
Royal Highness for the second time.
Did you make any note of the conversation
you have mentioned at the, time it took place 1—
None whatever.

You have now spoken then to what you recol-
lect of a conversation that took-place five years
ago ?—I have a perfect recollection of the con-
versation.

When did you mention it ?—I believe I have
mentioned it several times.

But do you recollect any one particular time ?
—I remember that it was brought particularly
to my recollection by a letter which I received,
inquiring if I recollected such a conversation.
At what time did you receive that letter—
since these proceedings commenced ?—Seven or
eight weeks ago.

Since these- proceedings commenced ?—Since
the House met the first time.

You say the conversation was brought to your
recollection by that letter ?—lt was never ab-
sent from my recollection, and when I was
written to to know if such a conversation had
taken place I answered, to say that it had, and
that it was true.
It was never a moment from your recollection?
—I always remembered it well.
But that letter brought it to your recollection
A PEER objected to this question.
Mr.l3nouGnAm admitted it to be unnecessary,
as the fact was already on their Lordships'
Journals.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL begged pardon, but
this was not the fact.

The last questions and answers were then read
over, from which it appeared that the witness
had stated the conversation to have been more
particularly brought to his recollection by the
letter which he had received on the subject.

Cross-examination resumed.

Q. Now, Captain Briggs, as tl►is conversation was always
More or.less in your recollection, will you mention one of the
occasions on which you spoke of it ?—A. l have ►mentioned it
on several occasions that I could name : I once mentioned it
to Sir G. Cockburn.

O! you mentioned it to Sir G. Cockburn; you mean one of
the Lords of the Admiralty
About when ?—This was sonic time ago.
How long ?—Many mouths ago. Some tour or fire. I men-
tioned it to him long before I knew that I should have to
mention it here.

Had Sir G. Cockburn questi9ned you on this subject ?—No.

. .
How did yon begin the ,conversation—What.led to it
—I forget what led to the conversation, hut I remember the
fact of my mentioning it to him.
You say this was four or &re months ago?—Yes.
You have had the honour of dining with the. King lately,
have you not ?—I have ; at Portsmouth.
Since you were last examined in this House ?—Yes, since I
was last examined in this House.