The Sun.
London, England, 1842-08-10 00:00:00

MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS.

On the motion of Sir JAMES GRAHAM the House
resumed for the purpose of receiving a Message from the
Lords. The Messengers announced that their Lordships
had agreed to the Copyright of Designs Bill and the
Bribery at Elections (No. 2) Bill—(Cheers)—without
amendments.
The Messengers further stated that their Lordships
desired a Conference with the House of Commons on the
subject of the amendments made in the Parish Consta-
bles Bill, and Mr. Manners Sutton, the Chancellor of
the Exchequer, Sir Alexander Grant, Mr. Hawes, and
some other Members, were appointed to manage the
Conference on the part of the House of Commons, and
left the House to meet the managers appointed by the
Lords in the Committee Room, No. 2, where the Confe-
rence was held.
On the return of the Conference to the House,
Mr. M. SUTTON reported that their Lordships had
delivered to the Conference their reasons in writing for
not agreeing to the amendments made in the Bill.
NATIONAL MONUMENTS (RESUMED).
The House then again resolved itself into Committee.
Mr. WYSE said it was not his intention to oppose the
motion of the Right Hon. Baronet, but he thought this
sort of proposition placed public servants in a most in-
vidious position. He agreed with the amendment of the
Hon. Member for Lambeth, but he did not think that
this was the proper time for such a proposition. He
must say, that there Were many who deserved such
honours, and who were neglected, but who were benefac-
tors not only to their country, but to the human race.
Such testimonials, were of benefit to the country, as they
emulated the young men of different professions. The
statues of Pitt and Fox and Chatham, emulated the
young statesman, and the statue of Watt, emulated the
mechanist, but it was a fact that this country had ne-
glected too much the men who had been ornaments to
their country and the world.
Sir F. BURDETT entirely partook in the sentiments
of the Right Hon. Baronet, which, indeed, appeared• to
have been acquiesced in by every Hon. Member in that
House. As much extraneous matter had, however, been
mixed up with the speeches which had been made, he
should feel himself necessarily curtailed in what he should
otherwise have observed. Feeling strongly on this sub-
ject, and not thinking it invidious that another should be
mixed up with Lords Exmouth and De Saumarez, he
did think that the merits of Sir Sidney Smith entitled
him to a separate monument. Every one, he thought,
should have a monument to himself.
Sir R. PEEL—That is myeintentions
Sir F. BURDETT said that was what he wished.
He would therefore say no more upon that subject, but
as he had particularly referred to Sir Sidney Smith, he
would add that his humanity was only equalled by his
bravery; his generosity to a subdued enemy exceeded,
if possible, his bravery; his indomitable spirit, his re-
sources, which were never at a loss, showed the devo-
tion which he bore to his country, and which had never
been equalled in the history of any other nation.
The Hon. Gentleman then entered into a minute detail
of the life of Sir Sydney Smith. The Hon. Baronet
continued, amidst loud cries of " Question," and "Di-
vide," which rendered him all but inaudible, and in con-
clusion expressed his intention of supporting the motion.
Mr. BROTHERTON trusted he was not insensible to
the merits of men who risked their lives in defence of
their country, but the question was, what was the best
way of perpetuating the memory of such men ?
(Hear, hear.) He considered that the best means of cul-
tivating the happiness of the country was by promoting
the peace of the world. He believed, that if France
and England would proclaim to the world that they
would not settle any difference] by war, but by justice,
and upon the principles of common humanity, it would
he for the general happiness of both.—( Hear,
hear.) He would relate a fact. A few years
ago a Captain Clegg, of Liverpool, risked his
life to save a hundred and ten fellow-creatures. He 1
(Mr. Brotherton), in consequence, put upon the books of
the House a motion, for the purpose of conferring sonic
dignity on those who distinguished themselves in saving
life. The Noble Lord the Member for the City of Lon-
don then requested him to withdraw his motion, and the
Government would take the matter up. He (Mr. Bro-
therton) recommended the honour of knighthood being
conferred upon Captain Clegg, but at the time Captain
Clegg was out on a voyage, and during his absence the
change of Ministry took place, and the honour was
never conferred. He would recommend the Right Hon.
Baronet to adopt some course of rewarding persons
who saved lives, by some honorary rewards, such as
silver medals, &c. There were many poor men of genius,
who had conferred honour and benefit on their country.
He should not oppose-the motion.
Sir JAMES DUKE would say a few words on the
present occasion, in consequence of having served under
Lord Exmouth for two years, and he knew his character
well. He (Sir James Duke) returned his cordial thanks
to the Right Hon. Baronet for having in so handsome a
manner brought forward this subject, and he was satis-
fied the country would be equally grateful. There was
one peculiar characteristic of Lord Exmouth, and that
was his devotion to his country. It was not the first
ship he captured that caused him to be admired by his
countrymen, but it was the manner in which she was
attacked and captured. From that time to the close of the
siege of Algiers Lord Exmouth was only a few months on
shore. Lord Exmouth once risked his life to save 600
lives. That would, no doubt, be gratifying to his Hon.
Friend the Member for Salford,—(Cheers.) Lord Ex-
mouth was always ready in a great emergency. He was
in great danger with his ship, and he saw that nothing
would save her but carrying sail. It came on a gale,
and-he ordered the sails to be reefed. The crew con-
sidered that it was impracticable, and :Lord Exmouth
said lie never would direct his men to do that which he
would not do himself ; and he immediately went up to
the yard-arm and reefed in a knot, saying, " Now,
my lads, follow me."—(Cheers.) He (Sir James Duke)
thought. that as an amendment had been proposed by
the Hon. Member for Lambeth, the Hon. Member for
Montrose would have been in his place in proposing that
the name of Camden should be inserted—(Hear, hear)—
a name that would always be remembered as one who
had shown such generous disinterestedness, and saved
the country upwards of half a million of money.—
(Hear, hear.) He (Sir J. Duke) again tendered his
grateful thanks to the Right Hon. Baronet for haying so
handsomelY brought the subject forward.
Dr. BOWRI;CG said the lion Member for Salford
stood almost lame in the Reuse in the opinion which he
had expressed that evening ; but lie (Dr. Bowring)
thought that this country did not pay sufficient attention
to those who contributed to increase the arts of peace.
There were those now in poverty and obscurity whose an-
cestors had invented the mule and the spinning-jenny, and
many of the descendants, of those who had conferred be-
nefits on the country now existed at this moment, who
required the protection of the Government.
Capt. PLUMIUDGE having served under Lord Ex-
mouth in the flag-ship, and also under Lord De Sau-
marez, could not give a silent vote on that occasion, and
he particularly rose to return his humble thanks to the
Right Hon. Baronet for the great pleasure and satisfac-
tion he had experienced from the speech of the Right
Hon. Baronet ; and if he could experience greater plea-
sutra it would be in giving his full concurrence to the
motion. lie would not dwell on the merits of those
great officers, but lie hoped he should live to see their
monuments, whether they were in Greenwich Hospital
or St. Paul's Cathedral.

The motion was then agreed to, and the resolutions
were ordered to be reported to the House to-morrow,

The House resumed:

COVENTRY BOUNDARY BILL.

On the Order of the Day being read for the third
rending of this Bill,
Sir C. DOUGLAS moved as an amendment that the
Bill be read a third time this day three months.
Mr. M. PHILIPS seconded the amendment.

Sir J. GRAHAM defended the utility of the Bill, and
urged upon the House the necessity of at once passing it.
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, • and the
House divided. The numbers were—
For the amendment
Against it...
Majority against the amendment —44
The Bill was then read a third time and passed.
LIMITATION OF ACTIONS (IRELAND) BILL.
Lord ELIOT moved that the Report on this Bill be
received.

After a few words from Sir T. WILDE c.nd Cap-
tain JONES,

Mr. HAWES moved that the Report be received the