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London, England, 1842-07-30 00:00:00

The next-votersarrechvesatiret-e-somostieveceeding:l9„936l.. _
should be granted to her Majesty to liquidate bills drawn by
!Governor of South Australia since 1840.
31r. HUME wished to know why the people of this country
IGh°l4o:he' called upon to pay so large a sum of money. The
st„,nnerni,nr "f the Colony had exceeded his authority, and in-
ikr "`,....,,.°"140t0pe11ing the colony to pay the amount due, they had
-"NI given them several large sums of money, and were now
tiaistng to grant them a still further sum. Certain speculators
444s:anced sums of money to the colony at ten per cent. and
f '3ll4,Per cent., awl interest had been paid them at those rates
4°,,r Wen years. Now the revenue of the colonwas deficient,
tsn't applied to the Government. Why were hey not left to
,"rg,aecurity ? The Governor had been pursuing a career of
Frii'PtL etitl'avitgatice, and now the Chancellor of the Ex •
itfir came forward to take the risk from off the colony.
11.1.asas not the land in the colony sold to repay the money ?
people of England were not to be taxed because the G0:2112.-C
:2112.-C of the Colony was unfit for his situation. He should
'lit/5101y take the sense of the Hou-e on the subject.
„Lute CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
r ,"alias had been induced to emigrate to the colony oa the f .ith
"'All Act of Parliament. They were in a state of starvation.
laduthis money was necessary to relieve them. If they hail
wired in E'ngland, they would have been entitled to relief,
4thVY had tint forfeited that right by going to the colony 03
ft faith of an Act of Parliament. Government had ordered
tutu*
1.„ res to be taken to remove those colnists who wre not
""sIY to be able to maintain themselves too e New South Wales,
s line other colony where they might gain a livelihood.
' B. WOOD wished to know if this was a gift or a loan ?
Lord STANLEY—A grant.—( A laugh. )
'islr. B. WOOD called that a gilt, and he should certainly
t°
against such a squandering of public money. The Com-
Itlittve of last sear had recommended a loan, that loan hid since
111) converted into a gift of nearly 400,0001., and now they
Pitt to vote thia further sum. Why did they not leave these
nts chargeable on the colony, if the colony should hereafter
.„.14-sible to liquidate them ? He should like to know tl..e names
,Zt-he parties whs., had advanced this money at such a rate of
j7erest. The house ought not to sanction such a grant, and
• should.divide against it.
'Lord STANLEY had so frequently discussed the general
Psstion, that,he felt disinclined to enter into it. Orders had
"ell sent out to the Governor not to draw any more bills, and
•if had been. supposed that those orders would reach him in
~,aUary, they had net, however, reached him until April, and
-"'s grant was to meet bills which he had drawn between the
atooths of .January and April.
IClts P. HOWARD deprecated the depreciation of the
I°,l°sly in the public view, which would be the result of the
1. ,that
of the opinions propounded by Hon. Gentlemen
(the Opposition) side of the House.
'fie Committee then divided, when the numbers were—
Por the vote
Against it
Alajority for the vote .
voring our absence from the gallery the next vote was put,
/41we found
Sir G. CLERK explaining, in reply to a question from Mr,
ih-nte, that the extra sum required by this vote was entirely for
c:srar in China. Thereinforcements demaneed by the East India
taPany amounted to six regiments, the expense of which
is charged partly upon the revenues of India, and partly upon
th
°l!'s of this country.
C. 'NAPIER, before the vote was put, brought forward
oiling the
of the faulty system of naval promotion, strongly
oiling the necessity of going into a thorough consideration of
fi.ei_subject by the Government. The long period which the
p
tO-"' at.d midshipmen were kept waiting, was most injurious
the service of the country. The young men who entered the
were disheartened, and quitted the service in disgust. He
ti 7 always, in Parliament and out of it, urged this subject on
bee consideration of the Admiralty, of whatever party it might
' and he did so from a strong conviction of the necessity of it.
stad no personal interest in the matter, for nothing any Mi-
r: could do for him could add to the position in which he
Sir G. COCKBURN explained, that though the sue-
tt_es in China had occurred at the close of the last year, yet
r 47 accounts of them did not reach England till the corn-
.4*oneernent of the present one. No officers had been pro-
% to from this expedition except those who had distinguished
t2,motives. But there had been some promotions (this year
Icularly) of officers who had been six and seven years on
if; coast of Africa, Tres of whem had returned the only
died left alive in theirpective vessels; all the rest having
°4! All the officers of the Niger expedition who remained
cot a step in rank ; these officers they had considered, were
or• t
the promotion
entitled to their prometion.—( Hear.) With respect
promotion of mates, the Admiralty had resolved not to
uroote any who had not passed their examination in 1835.
11,0 e Young ocers that had ben romotd were mn who had
chro themselffivei conspicuouse inp theirs actions ine Syria or in
• na• All he wished was, that those who complained of the
tlPointments that had been made could only hear the claims
thr had been put forward, and the strong grounds on which
had been supported.—( Heat, hear.)
Sir C•
NAPIER was sure that no one would complain
of
th Ine conduct of the Admiralty, if they would clear off all
°4 officers who were unfit' for service, and then lay down a
%%tar rule for promotion in the navy.—( Hear, hear.)
th_alr• HUAIE was afraid that that the Gallant Officer's zeal for
I,4l,!?tetry had made him forgetful of the public purse. The
jiatint at the present moment were paying 4,000 officers, and
ahtnire than 800 were employed. By and hje he would show
• o House hear promotions had taken place, and that mere
had been advanced over the heads of deserving officers.
4it7rS was the system at the present moment, that the navy
t, 'the nothing but a pension list for the aristocracy.—(Hear.
I..thijittrustisrosaisade by the present Government were more
Gstwaen they had a thousand pennants flying. How many
•011icers, he would ask, had had their hearts broken by
g 3
--steak,, Y°ung . Men—he might say boys—who could hardly
'Atgainst any 74. over their heads ?—( Hear.) He protested
-Meat .P.,r°tootion being made until a proper establish-
-6"Al3tYerst-e-nialu
was calculated to maintain
few words from Sir C. N In his opistion, the pre-
"fi*----(
Hear,
hear.
)ri only idle people.
APIER and Mr. HUME,
Captain PLUM RIDGE said the course the present Govern-
':
.taent had pursued in promoting matshad given the greatest
ifecthought it was unfair to say that all promo-
. -vg went by, patronage, because he stood in that House an in-
-NAtlsce tbacauch.was not the case.—( Hear )
D'ISRAELI wished to know whether the Government
17111. inform the Committee when it was probable that the war
• _ mina would be. brought to a termination?
-,•*'!"tr- R. PEEL said it was impossible for him to say when the
%ttotght be
_brought to a conclusion. as that would depend on
„,",,•-•wttlgencies which he could not define nor foresee. All he
• 4ay wasoirarberAlajest)'s Guvernment would not regard
klitsPorary expense_ in the hope of bringing the war to a satis-
' lirt-ternsination.
,r
.salt• DISRAELI said he was persuaded that we had hitherto
'• ett on the war upon an erroneous principle. He stated it
Cl'. the authority of an informant thoroughly conversant with
~°llthject, that if we had carried on the war against the
.
_i'lstse people, and against their commerce, instead of carrying
'1 against the Government, the war would have been long
terminated.
goose
R. PEEL, said that if we carried on the war against
Zotese commerce, it was a question whether we would not be
`rYing it on at the same time against British commerce.—
, L'scar, hear.) He doubted the justice or the policy of alter-
' (1....44 the utmost severities in our power against the people of
—( Hear, hear.)
air. O'CONNELL—Especially as the cause of the war is
tact so very clearly a just cause.—( Hear, hear.)
sklThe v ote,, which was a sum of 217,9511, for the expenses of
-"e War in China was then agreed to.
It.sum of 500,0001. was voted to make up the deficiency in
mle supplies of the previous year.
A sum of 533,1771. was voted for defraying the expenses of
rrdnance, works and xepairs, barrack-masters expenses, Stc.
'or the year 1842-43.
resolutions were then agreed to, the House resumed,
the Chairman reported progress.—Report to-morrow
(this day).

At the Ikon& it would be better if it
was suspended for some time, till the Bill now befoie thit House
was either pass,cl or nearly so, as the public would have a
different opinion with regard to a Bill passed into a law and
one that was not.—( Hear, hear.)
The motion was then agreed to.
CANADA LOAN REPORT.
On the motion for bringing up this Report,
Mr. HUNIE objected to it on the ground of Olt. expense.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
thought the resolution would be agreed to, because it was ab-
solutely necessary for the welfare of the colony. and as a ful-
filment of the pledge which her Majesty had given.
Mr. HUME said that, wishing to record his opinion against
the grant, he would divide the House upon the resolution.
Strangers were ordered to withdraw, and the House divided,
when there appeared—
For the resolution
Again-t it
Majority for the resolution
The Report was then brought up.
COPYRIGHT OF DESIGNS BILL.
On the motion fur bringing up the Report of the Copyright
Designs Bill,
lir. WILLIAMS objected to the Hose e proceeding with
the Bill at that late hour of the night (half.past twelve). The
Bill required great alteration.
Sir R. PEEL said if the general wish of the House was in
favour of such a course, he cc ould have no objection to the post-
ponement of the Bill till Tuesday.
After a few observations from Mr. Morgan John O'Con-
nell, Mr. M. Philips, and Mr. Williams, the further eonsidera •
tion of the Bill was postponed till 'Tuesday.
The Lunacy Bill vas re-committed, and the Report wit,
ordered to be received this day.
The Dublin Boundary Bill went through Committee, and
was ordered to he reported this day.
The Bankruptcy Law Amendment Bill was read a secon

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time,
Sir J. GRAN AM observing thtit in Mot.day he would state
what course the Government intended to put sue with respec
to the measure.
The Ordnance Services Bill was read a third time and
passed.
The East India Bishops Bill went through Committee.—Re.
port this day.
'1 he Western Mist+ alia Bill wag read a third time and passed.
The Lunatic Asylums (Ireland) Bill went through Com-

mittee.
The Report on the Slave Trade Suppression Act was re-
ceived.
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed or, and the
Howe adjourned at One o'Clock.

PAI(LIANIENTARY DIVISIONS.
(From the Votes and Proceedmgsl the House of Commons.)
THURSDAY, JULY 28.

ELECTION PROCEEDINGS COALIIII TEE,
DIVISION ON MR. ROEBUCK'S MOTION.
MINORITY-AYES, 47.
Heathcoat, John Prothcroe,
Hill, Lord Mamas :tomers, J. I'
Hindle, Charles Tancred, H. %V
Hollood, Robert "l'hornelY,Thomas
Howard, C. W. G. Tanen, Henry
Hutt, W. Turner, E
Lan?ton, W. G. Villiers, Charles P.
M.Narnara, %V Ward, H. G.
Mangles, R. D. Wawn, John T.
Martin, John Williams Win.
Morris, David Wool, ienja min
Napier, Sir Charles Wyse, Thomas
O'Connell, D. Yorke, H. redhead
O'Connell, M. J.
Pechell, Captain
Philips, Mark
Plumridge, Captain

Agl►onby, H: A.
Dowring, Dr.
Brocklehurst, J.
Brotherctp.i, J.

Bryan, George
Cave, R. O.
Cobcen, Richard
Crawford, W. S.
Currie, Raikes

Duncan, George
Duncombe T. S.
Dundas, Admiral
Ebrington, Viscount
Ellice, Rt. Hon. E.
Eacott, Bichkam
Ewart, W.
Hastie, A.

TELLERS.
Roebuck, J A.
hum; Joseph

MAJORITY—NOES,
Acland, Sir Thomas Fitzroy, Ho". H.
Aciand, T. I). Fleming, J. W.
A'Court, Captain Flower, Sir James
Allix, John eeter Follett, Sir W. W.
Antrobus, Edmund Forbes' William
Arbuthnot, Hon. H. French, F.
Arkwright, George I Fuller, A. E.
Asian, William Gaskell, J. M.
Baird, Will am Gladstone, W. E.
Baring, W. B. Gladstorc, 'l'.
Barrington, Lord Gordon, Hon. W.
liatesoii, Hobert Gore, W. R. 0.
illackhurne, John I. Goulburn, H.
Blackstone, W. S. Graham, Sir J.
Rader°, Henry G. Grant. Sir A. C.
Borth% ick, Peter Greei.e, T. G.
Bradshaw, James i Grimston, Lord
grainston, T. W. i Hamilton, W. J.
Broadley, Henry Hamilton, Lord C.
Broadwood, H. Ham den, Reim
Bruce, Lord E. I Bardinge, Sir H.
Bailer, Sir J. B. Y. Hardy, John
Burrell, Sir C. M. Hawes, B.
Clietwodr, Sir John Henley, J. W.
layton, It. It. Hodgson, R.
Clerk, Sir G. Hogg, J. W.
Cockburn, Sir G. Hope, Charts 4
Colebrooke, Sir T. E Hamby, John
Coluhoun, J. C. Howard, E. G.
Corry, H. L. I Howard, P. H.
Cripps, J. Humphery, J.
,naer, Hon. Dawson Hussey,
.Thomas
Darby, George' • Inglis, Sir It. H.
Dawnay, Hon. W. Jana yn, Earl
')ick, Quint in Jellifte, Sir W.
D'lsraeli, Benjamin Jones, T.
Dodd, George Kemble, Henry
Douglas, Sir Howard Kerr, D.
H
Douglas, Sir C. E. Labouehere, H.
Douglas, J. 1). S. Lascelles, W. S.
Duncombe, A. Law, Hon. C. E.
.Caton, Richard J. Lc troy, Anthony
Eliot, Lor., Leicester, Earl of
Estcouit, T. G. B. Lincoln, Earl of
Farnham, E. B. Lockhart, William
Feilden, W. Lowther, J. H.
Fitzroy, Captain

136.
Lowther, Colonel
Lyall, George
Lygon. General
Mackinnon, W. A.
MacGeachy, F. A.
Martin, C. W.
Dias erman, John
Morgan, Octavius
Mundy, E. M.
Neville, Ralph
Newry, Viscount
Nichol', J
Norrevs, Lord
Northland, t.ord
Packe, C. Wm.
Palmer, R.
Palmer, G.
Peel, Sir Robert
Pemberton, T.
Polhill, F.
Pollington. Viscount
Pollock, Sir Fred.
Praed, William T.
Pringle, Alexander
Pulstord, It bert
Richards, Richard
It se, Sir George
kumbold, C. E.
Rushbrooke, Colonel
Seymour, Lord
Sheppard, Thomas
Smith, Ve• non
Somerset, Lord G.
Stanley, Lord
..,tewart, John
Stuart, H.
Sutton, Hon. H. M.
Taylor, J. A.
Trench, Sir Frederic
Vane, Lord H.
Vivian. John Ennis
Wilshere, W.
Young, John

TELLERS.
Fremantla, Sir 1.
Baring, ti B.

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FROM LAST NIGHT'S GAZETTE.
t ()omission by the Vice-Lieutenant ut Bedfordshire.
J. I,arvey, Esq.,- to be Deputy-LieUt., June 28, 1842.
CommiSsions by the Lord-Lietitenatit of Carnarvonshire.
J. R. U. Uore, Esq., to be Deputy-Lieut. ; W. B.
Hughes, Esq., to be do. ; J. F. Moncton:, Esq., to be do.
Royal Cornarvonshire Militia (I{itle Corps).—J. Wil-
liams, Gent. to be Surgeon, vice E. Carreg, deceased.
DLCLARATION OF INSOLVENCY.
JOSEPH. TILL, brewer, Nine-elms.
BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED.
FREDERICK EDWARD TURNER, druggist, Holy-
we