The Sun.
London, England, 1845-05-29 00:00:00

oessesseieeseeises. eie,e,miseesieees•••••• 0 to
Lord had omitted to state his opinion as
t to,
operation of a fixed duty in a time of scarcity. In ,an et
prolific season to levy such a duty would be imporsibte; yet
the Noble Lord had said nothing of making a provisioa,:.
the executive authority remitting the duty on corn undert ,n:
circumstances. The Noble Lord had omitted to Ifaeeint:t
opinion on this question the previous evening• lb ial
resolution referred to the political tranquillity and comrnaetre_.
prosperity of the country. It could not be denied ofh
on?!
Noble Lord (Lord John Riassell,) had divested his mo tli;
party character, yet still no one could fail seeing that her
resolutions implied distrust and want of confidence 1 :ie.,
country—imposing
iilmlpinoit,sitnears.—( Hear.) On this subject it "."110.: lb;
ttih:ee.H—eruesiee.tiongdientdeurtmaitxrienyse, if improving the taxation
ti
Fe,
coun t r y 1 e were on
nnb
det I:tsoalskieeevniwnaghe o trheace:clirid,ffis whyagl:t ed't
the tGht
vernmeet was not entitled to the confidence of the country tts
was the Noble Lord correct in the position he had taken.n.
.I,e
referred to the improved comforts and social conditione fre';i•
people—to the removal of embargoes on tratite—to tb isl
sion and improvement of the laws upon which conihni,ettc, we,
transactions depend ; to all these he referred as evidence t
had
(the Government) had not been remiss in their duty, aniu_tr,,,
rdioidneantyhagtofodelch(entitled them to the confidence of thee°
ei:, )0
corn-law
oe
rnc
-olua,lii.snco
ot
utldhi
bnnek that the habitual discussion of this quo.t-taa
eto
specifically introduced,m for Lora
hampton, than in the manner adopted by the of the
the Nlember for London. According to the statement, , to
ru: thh
ae msa
bo.
yr)e t
ehffilei :Hi
etnohntol,yu
Agdhliestemtubbseeserdsubobyrjea:olo:,
Hon. Alember for Essex he was led to understand that bet
agricultural interest had withdrawn their confidence I '' A
rer -
Majesty's Government. To this he could only Wrest. eons
that they should have seen reason to withdraw r
too
fidence, but ha would nevertheless consider it his dutit,oerPott, of
what he considered best calculated to serve the in'_at env
the country, as he believed the policy of the Governinnee
, 004
duced to the general good. If they contrasted tricria poi
as it was in 1841, with what it was at present, it :low,
but be admitted that a great improvement had t'4sl,' lat,e, ha
With respect to the changes that had taken place in t eof core
ot
believed that so far as they had not increased the price
r_rie,
they had had a beneficial effect. The welfare of
ib,rroinperieitnorsthwehmetahrekretth. the P_
atiois
tors of land did not depend upon the sum which laneseorud
which determined theiretlice eccount°
which were given of the state of the country as
the high prices of corn, he was perfectly anis
st of thin be
(The Right Hon. Gentleman then read
in
landed interest would not be benefited by such usersate iron.'
welfare.r(eHt uerns f
rhifmaheec,
ol)or
looked
wase
de utaphsokene
r the_„ li t a
communications of a General commanding
land to the Secretary far the Home Department, •"80,0try $a
of the country in Alay, 1841, and the state of tb'aots ive
present, from which it appeared that the former PC', and fees
most disturbed one, and the latter was so tranflui_4. phatefrf
from political agitation, that there was no ieterdei.:turbed tsi:,
taken in a question which had recently CO much, But (e'te
public mind—namely, the Maynooth question.sl, oe file 4
tiuued the Right Hon. Gentleman), depend uPUnaled.--le.C:,ea
of things hi 1842 could not have COt'n: for '-h- ad
of " Hear, hear.'') The Honourable
had said that he had been disappointed, theyrilfettenen
withdrawn his confidence from her MajestY'' `'ci but if 6
i‘elbelathtnef Etotirbiris
consequence of the course which they had pursundte;d his
chic;cln-;
the eot4-rilittihtnt:'tfirtt:tul.
had not gained his confidence—if they had ferfei,pith „e
deuce in consequence of the rapidity—(A laugh) aiiiiy. hope
they had proceeded in those changes, he most c•rtheieooo,
that he would proceed, if not in accordance withf want °,l„cceil,
the Opposition, at least in a common expressin° °I, colic' bad
fidence in them.—( Hear, hear.) He was Per hick tbeY .0,
under any circumstances, that the principles on _,, most ",' to
proceeded were sound ; but he thought it mt itl;ttily, tit to
and most prudent not to proceed too rashly Ind, pee
entry' --•
take that cautious and deliberate course whi",he eouu,'''''
certain to secure the permanent prosperity of '„eeted./ ocee
('The Right Hon. Gentleman sat down loucliY c'it, Oaths
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, that al bolo.° 01,
pied so much of their time on the queation
_too isi
to
House, he would very briefly refer to the. obser;otse °8 iti°
had been made by Honourable Members n tehe..te of the
debate. When he had such testimonials of th rtio sdrh they
dustrious classes from day to day—when he feu is 'fibi‘i,illira
of the corn-laws ceasing from using argul'—•th dlal' On
had been in the habit of using, and those wta coe oast
force—it was obvious that the time must sti eonncleteiaea
restriction would cease, when Parliament wcul rto be red then
a duty of 40s, or 50s. per cent., ought nolougeoe wisbegogas
as injurious to the farmer and the labourer•
state of c,O poi;
to state this to the House—the g were in a!, mlll tree .°*
tive prosperity—the people in the north were vete id leVil
tical disturbance—their labourers general'l„foret c'„utten% '''
than when food was high. Parliament, tbfe; and `These iln.
lato without any suspicion as to its InotiL-oiora en
t",,. the re'
the circumstances before it, to come to a ue- lett '''' We°
ler la the flt
portant matters.—( Hear hear.) Whate „tea to bp/ et
suit of the resolutions Which he had suhn'''•fi that t '', be
that night, the great question would rein
there slai intai°
hcoanrvveinsrc,eadndthcantrninwaastimhieghofindirstrriceess; when
_l/41 ot 01. 0
they cos'
at nreltera°?:
the present corn-laws exactly as they were as $ par'i
if the Government were to propose that any Pa that
in the corn-laws, no one would pretend to sq.. lite that
in that House would be capable of resisting l__ ,„,0 ta, the
this would be the case, and he called
such a concession—he appealed to those who e?
otlutbe peogirAt
x pwe
iCt set that
check.
which
present law increased the price of the food
:ft. rflies,Ve•
make such a concession as the one pointed
,oceroeet P_ate
Honourable Baronet at the head of the Go.
erne ~41, au os
on them
ria:_rereatas% I,
ferred to the changes which ha en place sin _ "Z.,ingato,o
ferred to the circumstance as fixwere entirety,
_""tor
0.1,6"0f
measures which the Government had takenc.a
stledebi obet.Boo
Russell) considered those changes had
debeaenmateurial alter! 'lli
seasons—( Hear, hear)--an .that ma tby
__
unwise Li%
the argument. If they we brothugh
in al.
.--e casures had fun. 604
meat into a bad state,
prosperity,things
in tgthhte ycomnirgthnnt
ee "'that such an unexpected sjoet)
couldtim e theynot had
but seene.p
et he
tola l'"-ifeC
otion to _our
Edward Knatchbull brought forward a In Lot be "of the
that distross was not partial but general, in valb er oder fog,
the country and to its property would eosin'. die e
ported by a number of Members on the ewes "odd
In
thosei:: 3a6th
eaaddebate
theensuedn e wuhrosi eenhtoof apditen ihstit t'sflill;cdF°rtnet; tihui III:
similaribnlvonule. involved
o lithat alterationsalterations ofh al3vduatittiaft frup7Prirnoetabs.l.
the great pr asperity in the various branches 01 trade,
ver,lantel
cotton, and other branches of manufacture el" by ';',so,li4°
increased in quantity and exportation, ant ad 04 ljegs°
consumption, and yet in 1837 there was a -of o°o,ll'
and dangerous speculation. In 1838 the prices g ted pal '
te rise to a price that was seriously embaro4o, 0 ferl
bourer, which continued for the years 1839' „ and suat ref :
when there was a continuance of bad harvasT, taitlo_Bot !
and distress amorgst the people.
ren c e to one Government or toliaenwotheird, ?I,7tohit'olfie?grote,:il
euffieient indication that they might have a.g_t°e'd darP:,t (07,
similar seasons of distress to that whic e 1,1400, al, 1:-..;
years He really wished to put it to tin phials • de.e,
all other consiiertions—as a question One,ould n°,,pleelts
thoroughly convinced himself—whether theY.ev vioei! to
~)
what measures they thought best--whetee 'tVey 100;0,
that if alterations were to be naade, noityirstia pa
ma de i n th i m e of c omp ar a t invieft
tilera:Serhlooaratere ,yt, tera:.,:plielijo°othenr:
rAe
eNt
too bnl evr Le
roer d
carriedha d s a iad i
littlen the
further,cou r se
that an alteration of the corn-laws would wan o,i,e,„'Ulo,et r',,,te
most beneficial to the farmer. This was h?itit the lest roe,
feet agreement with the public interest.,,,,_"... Govern„tortioe
Gentleman had raised another question. I,nicot he
this fa°
no objection to part of the reaolutionsn station on ::roes
and
mighte v even theyheid seemed
Part
to
ofthink
tt that
.1 e gobtai 4
•0111 ' ,116
Sir R. PEEL—That could only Re 0 to 0.4,
to the Crown. 16sta/ref as el, for
Lord J. RUSSELL had no objection
clearly eietit;, be
course that was to be pursued. But it • ,iste eon oie r for
duty of the Ministers of the Crown to
aeleagi*objectie'i, leuweitigb,t
any class. He thought that the sao-i,etid the - The, to
raised by the amendment of his Hon• Fri niitg!. i1.,-sivi J•
Wolverhampton to the purpose of the Co,leagoes E`sB%(& of
Hon. Gentleman said another of his col for tot 0,
confidence of the Hon. Baronet the 310111?er th 0001 cep
• atating the rtee a
Tyrrell), and he thought while tto $ pr, t st'
should also recollect what was ills_ pith
~ 18.,,5,
that the Ministers had come into povcisterrried olio joireop'eol
the ground of which they had never •5,0 d t the ;1,001
who thought with him would say the tail s , id' „rio ~trf
tion of tallow and cattle, had not CO oft thel'is o0:400
prosperity as to militate against the interest; into
oifeotesyssi
classes. The small importation of carne hare cansaere'
from abroad could not in any great deg• `havey
Ira
markets, nor could the introduction Of co'. or ato ,tee,
greatly injured the interests of the farillr_' „resutnte ids ail
the general prosperity. He could not ue,erneese,4,l4iso'ipte_
with all the principles of the measurer, of : oft lota of th'
but certainly lie thought that the far,m_ernigh_otes, f 1
of
reason to complain of the measures of of
meso;oor,
net. He did not mean to complain 01 i"f 'blie pr.rely o
by
Right Hon. Baronet; but the speeche'i °led teBeo7l, oej
Gentleman in 1840 and 1841 had certain Yrioairithoug
sot ,a
I the country to expect measures based 00 p „tea; bee, be b°
posed to those en which he had alwaYs n'h lid (10, t bast!
repeated, he believed the measures white tioti °„ly 11° 134 L
were useful and not injurious. At the ei4ticcoetts.'d itii tbia--;
begun a series of measures which who
ojolie,clistet,,4.oBt
obtained for him the confidence he egly ",'", Pat, bi-t
The Hon. Member for Essex had esPerd test ',',,taituertictl'ai
(Hear, hear.) It was not to be expect
Russell,) could give his confidence t° rotbheerG.°eft terraittlitote6;°ol
however anxious he might be as sa,lll„eistrYotho nil bit,
party to reduce the influence of the nriThieo
~.d 00.80 ss ia
that he would rather support them io
~,a,'Ba to '' to ant
the Hon. Baronet the member for El ee enicreoce'
was opposed to their general policy, if, in Pre di'
measures carried, he should feel obligee' _ .„,„ioe,
..1,
port the Ministry now in power. , shoeset''' fOV t DO
The Noble Lord sat down amid lead r, °6l tba‘stion°'
Lord CLEMENTS rose amid 1.0 c,,,1i,,i.i0t.e re•c:i_ , ifor
vide," "Go on," " Order," Bce• ,end cni it, tii..ott e;ee.„....
lusion whatever had been made to Ireluil4bt 21°1100 P, aft
er
—(" Oh, oh," " Divide, divide.") - It 111 ~,ty 11, Lot°,
Oiled that a repeal of the union had The
'Mb`e
(Cries of " Oh, oh," and laueliter.)
in vain attempting to be heard sat OWn'appearea-..: a'?, .
The House then divided, when there
.... .•••• ' ,250 ,-,:20
For the amendment .........................
.........,.
...„0.010.
Against it ..................... .. ........... •••i;;t: vibe
Majority against the emena'._sl tool
10...
....... il'' /5 r
appTehaereHd_ouse again divided on the °ogle
For the resolutions ••• ..................... --- • pact".
Against thews ............... :0, . :tioto
...
,0 say
c, pc.,e
Majority against the re: lus,„ker 1 beor ~vio the
Mr. HINDLEY called upon the r
the g°u"i he s7officers
Itemisers were to be excluded from ~,.,e reasm hr shot
sions upon two separate Motif/DS. e ,I_'inii,sion '''' aver
question was, because he was refus a o'' )Ifrolb
of the House on the first division. the 1-I°n" led. der $
Sir E. FILM ER concurred; with
been collat..
3,,,,a1 e ia he
site, as he was one of those who had
o,cere bod.
_lO 00'
The SPEAKER said that. the ,n,'oo. Menu'
t el,'
sox!
. 0 o
to"
t a Quarter
admittedmisapprehensionTThe
e 1i :,
soen t ehaenenfh
adjournedtheir odnu.tle! : for
"

_-- --- --------- - - ---a,
On the IStli inst., at 111o13r1:fic'kriffou. se.
lady of Henry Mayhew Esq., of a daughter.
. ter 00. 31
On the 191.11 inst at' Newton-road, ay 3 ' 0 f
Cherrill, of a son. ' the lady
On the Ist inst. at Frankfort-on-the-gaine, of
Peter Koch, Esq. 'of a son. EiliVn'
On the 26th in'st., in Eaton-place, Viscountess
a daughter.
thainYton, 3101,
On the 25th inst., in Angle
Sou
the
.Dowager Lady Thomas,aged 88. Northa
i F°deia
Early in January last, in :New South Wales, .3.12.,°_,rt. •
Hoy,:nden formerly of her 'll 'est 's 34th Friole" van,
, of
y i‘iington, „ 4:10...
On the '2sth inst., in Portland-place, - ot
Subine, only surviving child of the late T nriiberie
iofot
lane, Fleet street.
On the 26th inst., i orth Wales, Agnes 1::::
daughter of Dr. Day, Southwick-street.

Locdon: Printed and Published by filtiO„e No. of
Yo. 112, Strand, Printer, P. The YOrifti teitY
h bo
Strana, ths Precinct or tiv S.IA,YI
&Mama. Thursday, Mtiy 045*