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SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS.
FROM THE EVENING PAPERS OF THIS DAY.
GLOBE.—There is something very amusing in
the pertinacity with,which the majority in the House
of Commons continue to follow Sir Robert Peel,
though nearly every step they take is in a direction
diametrically opposite to that in which they expec-
ted to have been led by him. The Premier's con-
duct may be compared to that of certain omni-
bus cads, who desire to fill their vehicles with-
out any particular regard to the destination of
their passengers, whose remonstrances are briefly dis-
posed of by an assurance that it is "all right," though
they have a shrewd suspicion that it is all wrong,
when they occasionally get a glimpse of the road.
they are travelling. It has caused much astonish-
ment to certain simple gentlemen, on the Conservative
side of the House, that the sentiments which they
were encouraged to put forth upon the hustings
are to be suppressed in the house, and that in fact
the clap-trap which was so strongiy recommended
for election use is discountenanced by the Premier
as being ill-adapted to Parliamentary purposes.
From the language held by certain candidates on
the subject of the Poor-law, it would have been
inferred that the majority of Tory Members
would have come into Parliament prepared to anni-
hilate the present system at a single blow ; but, to
the utter astonishment of perhaps many of the majo-
rity themselves, they are called upon to follow their
leader in a proposition for confirming the .existing
law in all its essential points, and thus sanction the
alleged enormities they have so long been striving
to exterminate. Again, with regard to many
points in the Tariff, the Conservatives are being
carried along in a road that they have not only
been unaccustomed to travel, but in which. they
have over and over again expressed their determi-
nation not to proceed ; and if a refractory member
ventures to suggest that the party is taking an
unusual course, he is advised tolet the Premier alone,
for that he, of course,knows very well what he is doing.
It is evident that many of the Tories are only recon-
ciled to the road they are compelled to go, on the
principle that "needs must when—Sir Robert drives ;"
and, indeed, they would have turned refractory long
ago, but that they are every now and then subdued—(as
children are by an allusion to old Bogy)—with a threat
of the return of Whig government. We remember
seeing the clown in a pantomime get into a sedan chair
with nsither top nor bottom to it, when he shrewdly
remarked, that "but for the look of the thing he
might just as well walk ; and it really appears to us
that if Conservatives are to be placed in awkward po-
sitikins by their own leaders, they gain nothing, except
in the " name of the thing," by the accession of a
Tory Ministry. This truth will no doubt burst upon
them at last, after they have been voting in oppo-
sition to their own views sufficiently long to have lost
the power of which it is the Premier's policy to de-
prive them; and when they are no longer formidable,
he can afford to throw them away with the contempt
that is certainly due to their extreme credulity.
STANDARD.—The Morning Chronicle devotes
a very long article to-day to the proof that the Con-
servative party is declining. Our Contemporary,
indeed, commences with an acknowledgment that it
could scarcely withhold —an acknowledgment,
namely, that, "the famous majority of ninety has on
the whole gained by the decision of Coirimittees"
—a prima facie confession, at least, that in
the representative assembly the Conservative
body has• not suffered any material deteriora-
tion. We are far from denying that success so
triumphant as that achieved by the Conservative
party last summer has been unattended by the con-
sequences always inseparable from such success—
a diminished estimate of the value of the object ob-
tained and a slight oblivion of the danger escaped,
in all ; with some disappointment of too sanguine
expectations in sections or individuals. To suppose
that the Conservative party has not had to pay
this price of victory, were to suppose that party
different from what men have always been and
always will be, while our nature remains the same.
The Morning Chronicle, however, goes further than
this, and intimates a conviction that the Conservative
party is dissatisfied with the Ministry of its choice,
upon account of certain specified measures which that
:Ministry has adopted. Now, as these measures are
all, as described by the Morning Chronicle, measures
identical in kind, though differing in degree, with
the measures of,the party opposed to the Conserva-
tive party, this surely proves no weakness in the
latter ; at most it but proves that the Conserve..
tive party, which possesses " a famous" and
" increasing majority" in the House of Commons, is
more hostile to the Whig-Radical party than is the
Conservative Ministry—a proof, an incontestible
proof for strength ; for surely that host is strongest
m which the main body is more eager to en-
gage with the enemy, than its more cautious leaders
are willing to permit it. The utmost that can
be inferred from the Morning Chronicle's argu-
ment is, that the Ministers are weak in the party—
not that the party is weak. This inference
would, however, go much beyond the truth. The
modified Corn-law, the tariff; and the income tax,
three of the measures upon which, according to
our Contemporary, the Conservatives are dissatis-
fied with the Ministers, never met any serious opposi-
tion in the Conservative party, although here and
there might be heard the expression of doubt and ap-
prehension, which every, change naturally provokes
from among a numerous body of men thinking for
themselves; these expressions, however, soon yielded
to the force of reason, aided by the effect of candid
explanations, and they are heard no longer. We are
persuaded that were the measures to be again pro-
posed in the present instructed state of the public mind,
they would scarcely challenge a whisper of opposition.

IREL.AND.
OUTRAGES IN GALWAY COUNTY.
DUBLIN, MAY 16.—Within the past week some out-
rages, connected with the eviction of tenantry, have
been committed in G I
a-way—a county hitherto remark-
able for tranquillity. On this subject the Galway
Vindicator contains the following
" Since the regime of our Tory rulers, the borders of
Tipperary, adjoining. the county of Galway, have been
the scene of many outrages ; and, to guard as much as
possible against the system of crossing over the Shan-
non, it has been deemed prudent by the executive to have
a stipendiary magistrate stationed at Portumna. From
the vigorous and impartial discharge of his duty by
Captain Warburton, aided by the local Magistracy, we
trust the Tipperary boys' will not be permitted to sow
the seeds of discord amongst the peasantry of Connaught."
The same paper contains accounts of outrages in the
barony of Leitrim—in ono instance a house, from which
a family had been ejected for non-title, was destroyed by
incendiaries ; in another, the owner of some property,
from which a large family had been recently dispos-
s,,s,ed, was himself forcibly evicted by an armed party of
" Terry Alts."

EMIGRATION.
Notwithstanding the advance of the season, emigration
is still proceeding with as much vigour as in the com-
mencement of the spring ; and it is upon as extensive a
scale in Ulster as in the. southern counties. From Bel-
fast alone, since the opening of the present season,
thirteen vessels have sailed for Quebec, St. John's, and
Prince Edward's Island. carrying out about 3,500 pas-
s( ngers. ...:otne vessels have also sailed for the United
tates, with three or four hundred passengers.
DREADFUL CONFLICT WITH THE POLICE.
The Curh Examiner contains the following account of
a desperate encounter between three policemen and a
number of the peasantry. The district where this oc-
curred has been heretofore very peaceable ; it is within
the county of Tipperary, and upon the borders of the
county of Cork :
" A party, consisting of three of the police stationed
'at Kilbenney, near I\litchelstown, were on patrol about
tr:;• eleven o'clock on Wednesday night, when they were
wet by a party of between twelve and eighteen men
ertned, and apparently on some desperate intent.
On the. police „ challenging .them, they answered
very roughly, and ,immediately attacked the .

police. Their arms not being loaded at the
time, they could badly defend themselves. Two of
them were desperately beaten, and, now lie in the bar-
racks, with very little hopes of their recovery. One of
them, named Strap, made a desperate fight, but was
thrown over a bridge near the place. He held his as-
sailant so firmly as to drag him, over with him, and gave
him several stabs with his bayonet, from the effects of
which, it is supposed, he must have died ; he also kept
firm hold of his gun, and though his skull was fractured
in three different places, he succeeded in keeping it from
him. Robinson, another of the police, also made fight,
but was knocked down by a blow of a hammer, and his
skull badly fractured. The other policeman endeavoured
to discharge his carabine at a fellow who attacked him,
but missed fire—he then made off to the barracks for
more assistance. Two countrymen, who lived near the
spot, rushed out of their house and gave the police every
assistance ; they knocked down several of the fellows—
in fact but for them the two police would have been mur-
dered on the spot. The neighbouring police, with Mr.
Bourke, the sub-inspector, have been out all day en-
deavouring to trace them, but without effect. This has
caused a great sensation in Mitchelstown, which is a
peaceable quarter of the country. There is no idea what
the fellows were intent on, but it is hoped by the
active exertions of the police, they will speedily be
brought to justice."

DISCOVERY OF A BAND OF MUR-
DERERS AT NUREMBURG.
In December last the limbs of a body, sup-
posed to be that of a rich widow named Bayer,
who had suddenly disappeared from her habi-
tation, were found in the streets of Nuremburg.
The police made the greatest efforts to discover
the circumstances which had brought the unfor-
tunate deceased to her frightful end. They could
only succeed, however, in discovering the most
vague information ; and the public had begun to
think that the crime mist remain unpunished,
for two other persons had been assassinated in a
mysterious manner without the criminals ever
having been detected.
1 The police still kept a close watch upon a
young woman who had been in the habit of
working fbr one of the murdered persons, and
9.t length they succeeded in procuring some very
important testimony, and they proceeded to
arrest a woman named Romstatt, who, however,
denied all knowledge of the matter, and indeed
nothing was found at her residence of a suspi-
cieus nature. But a search at the house of her
daughter, who lived not far from Pegnitz, was
attended with different results, for in a
drain they found the intestines of a human
being, and shortly afterwards the confes-
sion of the mother led to the discovery of the
head of Madame Bayer in the drain of the Hotel
de Ville. All the part that the woman Rom-
statt- acknowledged to have in the transaction
was that .o 'taking the portions of the body to
different parts of the city; but she pointed out
certain persons as the assassins, who were imme-
diately apprehended and imprisoned; and proofs
were soon established of the existence of a band
of murders, who had doubtless committed the
murders we have alluded to, and probably many
ethers which have never come to light.
As soon as these circumstances became known,
the irritable character of the citizens of Nurem-
burg became greatly incensed against the authors
of these diabolical outrages; and it became ne-
cessary that the police should take extraordinary
measures to prevent the populace from inflicting
summary justice upon the criminals on their way
to prison.
It appears from the later details of this horri-
ble affair, that the woman Romstatt has stated
that Madame Bayer was murdered on St. Tho-
mas's-day, a winter fete which annually brings
thousands of strangers to Nuremburg. She
says that the assassins having contrived to entice
her into a secluded house, seven of them imme-
diately fell upon her with razors and poni-
ards, and that having killed her they pro-
ceeded to cut up the body, Romstatt being
employed to get rid of the remains by disposing
of them in the drains or sewers in different
and distant parts of the city. With regard to
the fate of one of the murdered persons, a book-
keeper, for whom she had worked as a daily
servant or laundress, she pretends utter iglu).
ranee. She was, however, heard to say, that a
woman named Bezold, who was found in bed
with her throat cut, had been murdered by a
barber, who formed one of the gang, and who
has been apprehended.
Nuremberg being situated on the great Euro-
pean route, and being consequently te constant
rendezvous of foreigners, it is supposed that the
band of demons had imagined that their devilish
practices would be less likely to be detected from
the fact that foreigners would not be readilyrnissed.

ELECTION COMMITTEES.
(THIS DAY.)
(Continued from our Atternoon Edition.)
CORK (COUNTY.)
Cross-examined by Mr. AUSTEN-1s known in Cork.
Went up with five voters to the Court-house ; that num-
ber constituted a tally. Went up with five others who
voted also. There were others who did not vote ; went
up to protect the voters. Had two tenants of the name
of Good. Does not know if they voted. They might
have done so ; might have voted himself, the placard
that was exhibited at the Conservative Committee-
room did not tend to allay. the people ;
applied to the Mayor to swear in special con-
stables ; does not know whether he is a Tory.
His name is Besnard. Cannot mention the name of a
single voter who remained unpolled except himself (it
having appeared from the poll-books that the two Goods
voted). It was about forty yards from Daly's Club that
Mr. Fayne fired. Mr. Payne is a clergyman of tilt
Established Church ; witness held a pistol in his band.
To the Committee.—When Mr. Payne fired he had
access to Daly's Club. The keople were pressing on
them when Mr. Payne fired. 'the pistol was fired at the
people. Thinks it was necessary for their personal safety
that the pistol should be fired. Met with no obstruction
in coming to Cork. He travelled the same road with the
Bantry voters. Had about thirty voters with him. Is
not aware that the voters received any injury when they
returned home.

Sir Michael Creagh was next examined—Was Lieut.-
Colonel of the 86th Regiment, at the last election for
Cork; General L'Estrange was the Commanding Officer;
there were 150 men in the barracks ; fifty of them were
in the town who were relieved by 50 others, and 50 were
always in readiness at the barracks ; there were about
twenty-five cavalry beside. The town was very mud.
excited. Conservative voters would run great risk in
going to the poll without an escort. Saw missiles thrown.
Every day he was in town he. saw acts of violence
but they were chiefly committed by women.—(Laugh-
ter.) They were near the soldiers, and afforded the men
much amusement.—(Laughter.) Does not know that
men were dressed in women's clothes ; did not nxamint
particularly.—(Great laughter.) If witness were I.
uoter, he would have felt apprehension. _ _

Cross•examined—Thereivas the usual noise and ex-
citement in Cork which usually takes place at Irish
elections. Might have brought into Cork a greater
number of troops if required ; had 700 at Ballincoliug,
which is about four miles distant from Cork.

Mr. Coulon, Head-constable of police, stated
that two hundred of the police-force were called
into the city. of Cork during the election ; the people
called the Conservative party "bloody Conservatives "
and said " they ought to be kicked." They were armed
with great sticks, The people were very much excited.
The voters had to be protected. They passed through the
police. The police were frequently obliged to chase the
people. He saw persons with fustian jaekets, who appeared
to be ringleaders. He saw one person, respectably dressed,
with his back chalked. When he made his appearance,
he heard a cry of "now, now, now V', He was then fol-
lowed, and beaten with sticks. Witness came up and
protected him with his fixed bayonet. While do-
mg so witness was etruck himself with a stone.
Saw a second person marke with chalk. He was market:
outside the Court-house. He was followed and beaten
with sticks. Witness could not reach 'him, by reason of
the, crowd. Saw four or five persons leave.. the
crowd and go to the Committee-room of Messrs.
O'Connell and Roche ; they, said they had taken awh3
a pistol. Saw a gentleman put out his head through
the window, and draw a charge from the pistol. The
people became very violent in consequence. The wit-
ness went on to detail acts of violence, and stated that, in
his opinion, there was not any safety for life or limb for
Conservative voters, without an armed protection.
Nothing particular was elicited by the cross-examina-
tion of the witness. _ I._.

The Committee theu adjourned till eleven o'clock to.
morrow.

His Royal Highness Prince George of Cambridge
arrived in Dublin yesterday, for the purpose of paying a
farewell visit to Colonel Stawell and the officers of the
12th Royal Lancers. His Royal Highness was entertained
at the mess of the regiment yesterday afternoon, on which
occasion General Sir E Blakeney and all the military
authorities were invited to meet him. We are sorry to learn
that his Royal Highness must leave again to-morrow
afternoon, as he is under the necessity of being present
at her Majesty's birth-day drawing-room on Thursday
next. It is creditable to find a Royal Prince so uni-
versally beloved as Prince George is by all who have
the honour ut knowing him, and especially by his bro.
ther officers, with whom he has been most intimately as-
sociated for the last three years, and the regret of part-
ing is, we learn, quite reciprocal.—Dublin Mail.
FATAL CAB ACCIDENT.—Last night, about . ten
o'clock, a dreadful accident occurred to a respectable
lado). -
1 1, namedWarren,turnstile,
years of age, residing at
N
115:Worn. The deceased was
crossing Holborn from King-street, when a gentleman's
LittLleydTia u
cab passing knocked her down, and the wheels passed
over her. She was immediately picked up, and removed
to King's College Hospital, where she died in a few mi-
nutes. The gentleman who occasioned the accident ex-
pressed great concern, and accompanied her to the hos-
pital.
" WANTED A GOVERNESS. —lt has recently come
within our knowledge that nearly one hundred applica=
tions have been received, in each of two instances, by
_ single gentlemen in this neighbourhood, in reply to ad
vertisements, announcing the want of governesses in
their families.—Sher borne Journal. -
The Limerick Chronicle of Saturday says the Kerry
mountains were then covered with snow.

LAW INTELLIGENCE.
COURT OF B 41VKRUPTCY, May 17.
WILLIAMS AND MOTTR AM'S BANKRUPTCY.
(ADJOURNED EXAMINATION.)
The adjourned examination of these bankrupts took
place yesterday at the Bankruptcy Court, Basinghall-
street, before Mr. Commissioner Evans. The case
seemed to excite the greatest interest among the mem-
bers of the linendrapery trade, several of whom were
present. The Court, however, was not nearly so crowded
as on the occasion of Hitchcock's examination.
The meeting had been called to enable the bankrupt
Mottram to account for the loss of a case of French
goods, value 6151. ; to revise the private account of
Charles Mottram ; to receive a statement of the affairs
of the concern in Lamb's Conduit-street, up to Jan. 1,
1840 ; and to receive C. Mottram'S answer to the requi-
sition of the official assignee for further information.
Mr. Maynard appeared on the part of the trade assig-
nees, and Mr. Wright appeared for the bankrupt Mottram.
Mr. Bankes, the accountant having handed in the
bankrupts' balance sheet,
Mr. MAYNARD asked if there were any vouchers for
Mottram and Moore's payment. The Official Assignee—
Yes.

_
In whose writing are they ?—Mr. Mottram's.
When did you get them ?—About three o'clock
yesterday.
Mr. Commissioner EVANS—I see in this account an
entry of goods furnished. Mr. Mottram Yes, they are
goods furnished to my own family. The books show
the history of the transaction.
Mr. MAYNARD—The bankrupt takes credit for some
goods that have been stolen. Now I do not wish he
should take credit for those goods twice, which
I suspect he has done; once in the profit and
loss account, and again as goods stolen. Are you
prepared to show that that is not the case ?
Mr. Mottrant—l shall be happy to give any explana-
tion in my power. I have given over all the invoices, and
I cannot find any relating to those goods. No doubt
they were lost.
Mr. MAYNARD—I have every reason to believe that
there were some goods stolen, but what I want to as-
certain is, whether the same goods have been taken
credit for twice over ?
Mr. Commissioner EVANS—How have you made out
your account of purchases ? Mr. Mottram—l cannot
tell what they were—l know they were French goods,
but Ido not know what they were. I know they were
lost, from the information I received from the person em-
ployed in that department. Every one on the premises
knew it.
Mr. Commissioner EvANs—Have you made out an
account of all the goods purchased ? Mr. Mottram—l
believe we) have. I have gone through the books. I
know nothing but what is in the books. I never knew
what goods they were.
Mr. Commissioner EvANs—lf they had been paid
for, there must have been some account of them.
Mr. MAYNARD—And if they had not been paid for,
there could have been no loss sustained.
Mr. Commissioner EVANS—Do you mean to say that
you lost goods to the amount of 615/., and made no in-
quiry about it ? Mr. Mottram—lt was some person in
our employment who told me.
Mr. MAYNARD—Who? Mr. Mottram—Mr. Hersley,
who was at that time in our employ.
Mr. MAYNARD—Where is he now ? Mr. Maynard—
I do not know,
Mr. MAYNARD—Another circumstance which requires
explanation, is the fact of the bankrupt appearing. to
have paid- to the clerks various amounts of salaries im-
mediately prior to the stoppage. It appears they settled
with all the clerks. The amount paid for salaries in Oc-
tober is 6701. The peculiarity of the transaction is this,
that, assuming these payments to have been made, the
bankrupt; for some reason or other, made a large in-
crease in the amount of the salaries which the clerks had
up to that time been in the habit of receiving. It will be
remembered that the bankrupt Williams had stated that
he had been informed by Mottram that the salary-book
had been destroyed. Mottram charged Williams with
having made an untrue statement, and produced the book
which he stated to be the salary-book, which the other
had said had been destroyed. It is evident that the
book in its present state is not the salary book, and I
shall call Mr. Thompson, who was formerly with the
bankrupts, and also other evidence, for the purpose of
showing the state in which the book was formerly.- Call
Mr. Thompson.
Robert Binney Thompson, of 108, Wood-street,
examined—l was formerly in partnership with the
bankrupts. My connection with them ceased on 7th
August, 1840. My brother was at that time their chief
clerk ; he left their services on the last day of December,
the same year.
Do you recollect if there was any book kept by
the firm in which was entered the names of the
clerks and the amount of salaries at which they were
engaged?—l am quite sure there was a book of that
sort. The book produced was purchased by me. One
end was intended to enter the orders given to manufac-
turers, and the other to place the amount of salaries. I
placed the names of the young men with the salaries at
one end—that has disappeared. I made entries in it
respecting the salaries, but those entries no longer
appear.
By Mr. MoTTRAm.—It is the book, is it not ?—Yes,
but those entries are not there.
Mr. Salford Jones examined by Mr. MAYNARD—I
succeeded Mr. Thompson's brother as the principal clerk
to the bankrupts. I have seen that book before. I
have seen it in a different state from that in which it
now appears. Three or four leaves have been torn out,
which I myself tore out between two and three months
before the stoppage. Those leaves contained the me-
morandums which stated the amount of salaries at
which each of the young men were engaged. I cannot
say what became of them, Whether they were torn up
or burnt. This book was useful as a guide, as long as
we had thirty or forty young men. Afterwards,
when the numbers were reduced it was no longer of any
use to me. I knew the young men's salaries as well as
I did my own, and wanting a book for some other pur-
pose, I thought myself justified in tearing out those few
leaves, and using the book produced. I recollect
Mr. Mottram settling the salaries of the young men about
the time of the stoppage. To the best of my recollection
those settlements were made upon the footing of the
corrected entry, made in the leaves torn out—there
having been, at various times, alterations made in the
amount of he salaries by their being advanced. The
leaves torn out,
showed in some instances, not only the
original engagements, but the alterations. In saying
that, I mean to say the book was not kept properly like
another book, it wag a mere memorandum-book of mine.
There were regular entries always made in the cash
book. Mr. Mottram settled with me at the rate of 3001.
a-year. I had received that rate before. My salary was
assumed to be that from the time I took Mr. Thoirpson's
situation. The amount of salary I received as second
clerk, was 150/. a-year. I entered the bankrupts' ser-
vice in 1840, in May or June. This entry of 300/.
a-year, made in pencil, was made nine or ten months
ago. That entry was made at the same time that I de-
stroyed the leaves. I have put in pencil the salaries of
most of the young men in this book. I should say of
all. I think they were all done at the same time, with-
in a day or two of the destruction of those leaves. I
should imagine they would correspond with the entries
in those books. I have not the least doubt of it. Ido
not think the entries now in it, were in it then. At the
time I took the leaves out, the book was blank. The
entries now appearing in it \are not in the hand-writing
of any one in our employment. I should say they were
made about the time of the stoppage by a clerk of Mr.
Benson, the accountant. I should imagine he was em-
ployed by the firm. I did not want the book
tor any specific purpose when I took the leaves out.
I never made a single entry in it, but believing it might
be useful. I tore the leaves out, for we were always
wanting blank books.
Can you recollect whether you have burnt any of the
papers ?—None of any consequence. I never burnt a
paper of the slightest importance, nor did I ever burn
any papers by Mr. Mottram's direction. Each young
man was settled with at the rate agreed on by Mr.
Mottram and Mr. Williams. No doubt they had re-
ceived a similar yearly amount. There was no regular
settlement made for twelve months previous. If a young
man wanted 101. or 15/. he drew it. A balance had not
been struck in any young man's salary for twelve months
previous. I believe the amount of salary entered in
pencil corresponds with the entries on the leaves de-
stroyed, but I will not swear it. I destroyed the leaves
entirely on my own responsibility.
Mr. Commissioner EVANS—You did very wrong.
Re-examined by Mr. MAYNARD—The entries in the
cash-books are true accounts. To the best of my belief
the entries made on the 2d of November were of sums
paid on that day, and I say the same with regard to the
other entries. I made the majority of the payments. I
cantot say with re;erd to the payment to Mr. Drewry
whether I paid it myself or not. I believe Mr. Mottram
paid Mr. Bennett. The payment to Turner and Co. was
made by Mr. Mottram on the 2d.
By Mr. WRIGHT—I can swear that the goods were
sent to Mr. Ainsworth, one of the assignees, a day or
two before the stoppage, to the amount of 450/. It ex-
ceeded that amount. This was certainly a week be-
fore the stoppage. I believe they were silk goods. The
invoice was sent to Mr. Lackington, the official assignee.
I have never spoken to him about it. I never told Mr.
Williams that I had burnt the salary-book. That was
the only parcel of goods sent back to Mr. Ainsworth,
the assignee. Mr. Mottram asked me about the invlice.
I knew nothing of it. He asked Mr. Quilter's clerk in
my presence, and Mr. Quilter's clerk said he had had
papers from Mr. Lackington, but he believed all had
been returned. I have searched for it since, but have
not found it. It was not sent back with the goods. I
paid the clerks' salaries generally.
By Mr. MAYNARD—The goods wore returned, I
should say, about the Ist of November, and the stop-
page took place on the sth. Mr. Ainsworth offered one
per cent. discount for ten days. Mr. Mottram, was of-
fended at that, and sent the goods back, as lie would not
have them on these terms. The goods were sent back
unpackel, and a letter was written. stating the reason
they were sent back.
Mr. Commissioner EvANs—With regard to the goods
stolen, the bankrupt ought to make out an account of all
the goods purchased, and discharged himself from the
same.
Mr. MAYNARD—Such an account would be useful in
many respects.
Mr. Commissioner EvANs—lf I had the power of
making rules, I would crake every bankrupt make out
such an account for the year before his stoppage.
Mr. Mottram—l got 60,000/. out of 70,0001. by the
creditors to sign a composition ; and if it had not been
for Mr. Ainsworth, I
Mr. Commissioner ETANs—Do be quiet, Sir.
Mr. C. J. Kirby examine:. by Mr. b.fAYNARD—I was
in the service of the bankrupt. The book produced was
the entering book in the silk department. The altera-
tions appear to be in my figures. I cannot tell you the
meaning of them, it is so long since. The date, Nov. 4,,
might have been there. I can only say the figures
_are
mine, but why they are put there I cannot say. I should