The Sun.
London, England, 1818-12-25 00:00:00

FOOR RATES.

EDITOR,•-•1 trust, that in offering a few
remarks on the subject of the Poor,,to whirls the
attention of your Readets has been lately di-
rected,'hy the publication of some inquiries, dated
King's Head Tavern, Poultry, I sin influenced
.by an bumble desire, though in a very inferior
degree, to assist in the great object, which doubt-.
less will excite the greatest elucidation from the
most intelligent minds.
In the series of inquiries above referred to, it
appears, tlnit the suitable employmebt of Land by.
the Poor in their leisure hours has been thought
of sufficient importance to occupy the principal
plate. This sentiment is conceived to he wdl
founded. Indeed, the concurrence With which, it
has almost universally -been received for the list
half century may be presumed confidently to fur-
nish an argument in its support.
The discontinuance of a practice so salutary has
been in every one's mouth, :and its unhappy ef-
fects as generally lamented. But.where laboorrs
are still to be found in the possession of laud in i
multitude of happy in Stances, proof is yet demon-
stratively evincing that Parish Relief is in the
worst of tinies unnecessary. The writer, in com-
mon, it is.presioned, with many others, could
point to such cheering examples, and should it be
required to name them, could readily perform a
task Sit so pleasing a nature. He ventures to be-
lieve, Mr. Editor, that no other remedy than the
due cultivation of our native soil remains for the
eradication of those evils by which umen:ty is
,hocked, and every rank in our Community in-
undated.

S. For the information of FriendS, the Pro-
visional Committee for the Encouragemeot Of In-
dustry, and the Reduction of P,tOr Rates, Afr.
Editor, I feel much pleasure in acquainting you,
that their adopted Resolution to request Informl-
lion has been very successlA, having the gritifica..
tion of receiving perpetual cotnumnications of the
greatest interest from every quarter.
This information cannot but he gratifying to
all
.your Reader,s, who take an interest in 11,e
1 üblic, as wcll AS to every ft lead of itu:thinity.

FOR i sUN.

INSOLVENT DEBTORS' AGENTS.

Ne sutor ultra crepidant.

M. EDITOR,--4 have to apologize for a TEM-
?oilier( digression from the pursuit of a subject
-which EMBRACES the permanent interests of the
COMMUNITY, by a short reply to the scurrilous
observations of a Correspondent under THE SIG
SATURE of SIMoN. As it occurs tit me such re-
ply may be expected by your Readers, it is indif-
ferent to ine whether he is a IlacKturt WRITER,
the -SON of a DRUMMER Of an OViTER WOMAN.
The case adverted to by Ateornottss, and upon
which I have before observed seems to have
excited a degree Lusa:ova, accompanied
by tHaekTs\ which have no other influence on
ma than the calling forth the DEFIANCE of my
FaN.

1 will not b. swerved front my ORIGIWAL pur-
pose by any suck THRBSTS ; an't if Sniox pur-
poses to meet me ia the field cot COMPIITITION,
expect hint to do it through the mentog of the
PaF.ss—the only legalized channel which 1 shall
PUtit,Ug With Such a combatant.

Although the conduct in the Exeter case may
be treced to au itttlivido4l there, the OrrROIIRIUM
still attaches to him in the CAPACITY OF AN
AcIP.NT, et much as if he had been a U.IDIMT itl
Lot:n(lN ; 111(1 SIP4u leas admitted that, in (We
else at least, the AGENT is lINTETLRI) to tllt
♦t'PILLATIOIf ttf A RASCAL-1 meatv the Agent to
whom ATT(IRNATUS had alluded at Exeter.

(!p Oft groat /Mc! ILL-TIMED EPITHET Of

~,CK AA. , it i€, in my estittrition, quite nut of
place on the present occasion ; for where Stleil
Aiattt,:DkNT PflOti FS are furnished tIyAGVNTS, where-
of the ruhlic sn much complain, atty Writer on this
subject leas AveLa means of CAT Eat NG for HIM.
11E11..1'.

It has NSYRR been said by me that none hut
Atrocities Siltltild FILL ur SCHEDULES, Notices,
or Advectisentents—rhe Debtors arc fully autho•
sized to do it themselves ; and it they are in-
competent, Cleve is no objection to their employ-
itt:;
A. DRUMMER, or any one else who can write

INTELLIGIBLY. So far from considering, such as-
sist:ince as cawing reproach on those who render
it, I ant willing to contribute my share of appro-
bation for the services so rendered but fdo

sratNUOUSLY our Fer and paorFsr against any
person our uf the Profession taking upon, hilaself
the ti:lfifr'S taZidi liELUNG TO £T, either in the lu-
solveilt Court, or any of his M4jesty's Courts
.tvestiumster or elsewhere and I sli4ll beg leave
to c/‘•se this by a Waagzsm to Stich persons
agAilisc the risk of incurring penalties, with which
the M?.EIE HACKNEW CANNOT PP Al,-
rtiCTED and, without meaning to go minutely
into the various provisions which 'Are made for
rendering the practice of the Law ttp.rEcraßLE,
and ITS PRACTISEZIS RESPONSIBLE, I be leave to
refer your general Readers to the Statute of 7 anti
S WILLIAM the Third, chapter 24, witerehy per-
awls practising the Law cowritA.ar to the prowl-
sinus of 01;4 Statute way incur the penalties of a

it any conclusive arguments ace offered through
the medium of your columns, to convince me and
your READZEIS, that the observations from my pen
are founded in erroneous conclusions, I shall can-
didly tltitHit THAT conviction. I shall otherwise

proceed id the EXICIAMLIVICATLOW OL, ABUSES, 1111-
til they become a subject of cos‘rneßATlO br where
they gill more 11,,sucett1y obtain comtEc-rtort or

TOTAL ELEMOVAL.

Your's as usual,

SCRUTATOIt.

FOIL THE SUN.

ntrtsoNs PRACTICING AS CONVEYANCERS,

AND AN ANSWER TO THE MERCHANT AT BRISTOL.

Ma. Eswroii,—'lhe commendable candour uni-
formly %hew° its your conduct towards every sub-
ject interesting to the Community, induces sue to
offer the following reply to the Merchant of Brig-
tot:---" By the 12th Stat. Geo. 3. cap. 13. Sec.
it is enacted, that no Attorney shall have,
tape, or retain, any Clerk, who shall he become
bound by Contract in writing, after such Attor-
ney shall have discontinued or left oft ;" or dur-
log such time as he shall not actoaliy Practice or
carry on the busincts of an Attorney. And by
the Bth Section it is euacte'l, that e6ery person
who shall become so -bowl& shall, doritig the
time of such service continue, and he actually
ena-
ployed by such Attorney or Solicitor, or his or
their Agents, in else proper Business, Practice, or
Employment of an Attorney or Solicitor ; and this
Staitoe remaining in force, many eases have arisen
out of it, and amongst them the following ap-
pears applicable : namely, a Clerk's serving part
of the time with another Attorney, although with
his Master's conseot, am' the rest of his time with
his Master, is nut a good service, toiless he has
been duly assigned by his original Master, or
shall have entered into a new Conirect with the
t~ncer.--Sce 7 Term Reports, 756.
Much has been said of late, and very properly,
against the practice of certain persons called
Azents of the Insolvent Court, Pratgitiug Con-

ieyancing and Coramon Law ; and an attempt has
been made to chew, that they have a right to
practise, without capacity, for prisoners seekiug
the discharge, before the Magistrates at Quarter
Sessions. I give the following clause of the same
statute ill contradiction to such attempts, and as
warning to such Agents to guard against penal-
ties, viz. " No person shall act as a Solicitor,
Attorney, or AGENT, at arty General or Quarter
Sessions, as to the matters of a criminal and civil
nature, unless admitted au Attorney of one of
the Courts of Itecold at ‘Vestmiuster, and dilly
enrolled, and unless such person shall be on the
Holt at the time of so acting ; but any person
who shall so act, not being admitted sod enrolled
as aforesaid, shall be subject to a penalty of
and it any Attorney shall permit ail person to
Use his uanie, he is liable to be struck off the Roll.
As a more concussive answer to the Merchant
of Bristol, 1 will venture to express an opinion,
that the Young Gentleman whom •he describes
should RELINSUISH BOTH HIS SITUATIONS. if he
meditates to be au ATTORNEY. 1 would also ad-
vise that he should enter into a new contract of
service with a Practising Attorney, and consider
the time be has served as no par, of the period of
five years, which is necessary as a preliminary step
to his application to be admitted.
Ou the subject of Conveyancers who gain their
admission by paying a certain premium or admis-
sion, fee, I sun not unmindful of the numerous able
letters which have reached you on that subject ;
and not doubting but, as the mischiefs have been
CONSIDERARLII, they will call forth future obser-
vations from oleo who have well digested the
subject, I shall waive enlarging upon it at pre-
sent ; but it does appear in my view of the case,
that mental qualifications and endowments have
little to do with the real interest of the public,
and that if A man hat wealth and connection, be
VW obtain his Certificate as a Conueyancer, through
the admission alluded to, although he has not
been duly matriculated, or gone through a course
of legal education. I feel also a strong apprehen-
sion, that many persons of rank and opulence in
the community have suffered considerably front
reposing too much confidence in persons who
have not been properly versed in the Law of
Vendor and Purchaser, or competent to decide on
the efficacy of a title submitted to their judgment;
as it will not he denied that land-stewards, sur-
veyors, speculative builders, and jobbers in lands and
houses, have engaged in purchases and sales for
their employers, without competent legal know-
ledge to decide on title.
It this subject should not be continued by abler
bands, I shall devote my best attention to the
consideration which its importance seems to demand,
and shall again have the honour of addressing the
Public through your valuable columns.
JusTiTIA.

LONDON JOURNALS.

FROM THE MORNING PAPERS OF TIiIS DAY.

[Morning Chronicle]
By the Leeward Inland Parket, we yesterday
received Trinidad letters to 12th November, and
Orin°lc° Gazettes and letters from Angostura to
the end of October, from which we have made
extracts. By the same conveyance, some inter-
cepted letters of General Murillo also reached us,
together with a series of correspondence between
the latter and the Independent Gen. Zaraza, in
October last, in which it appears that the Spanish
Com►rtander-in-Chief proposed a general reconci-
liation, that was rejected with the utmost contempt.
The state of affairs in Venezuela wears a most bril-
liant aspect. The greatest cordiality and unani-
mity prevails, and the armies are abundantly
supplied with all the elements of war. The In-
dependents in that quarter comtuenced their last
campaign with only the arms they had been able
to wrest from their enemies on the field of battle ;
now they have armed all their soldiers, and have
8000 muskets in deptit. Not one department of
the Government his been idle since the last
campaign closed. The Generals have been
engaged in recruiting and organising their re-
spective corps, and the Civil Administra-
tion has been employed in establishing order
and regularity, and repairing the ravages of
warfare. The Missions, a rich tract of coun-
try, formerly held in feudal sovereignty by the
Ca►alonian Friars, have been placed in a state of
cultivation, and the setae encouragements have
been extended to the other parts. In the mean
time that the Patriots of Veueznela have been or-
ganizing themselves and gaining strength, the
Spirniards have received no reinforcements. Shut
up in the towns on the coast, their garrisons have
been thinned, and the ►natives, who by force were
kept in their ranks, have had an opportunity of
knowing the real situation of their brethren iu
arms.