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of this country ?—I mentioned before the difeci

tions I gave him. , •
Did Rastelli say any thing about returning
said he would come back as soon as he could' jo
knew he would be a most important witness 1(1
the House of litimmons, in case the Billie
go down there.
The Arroptcspx-QEsk,n4A\begged si '
to .ask Mr. Powella few questions. eo
Q. Was Mr. Powell-pres4nt in this HouSe
',71. that
the Attorney-General for the Queen state,. -;„
he had no other questions to ask Mr. Rastelli
he
A. I was, and had ,not the least idea that •
would call him. the
Has any communication been made rbY „J
Queen's Counsel or Attorney, that they 111';',1
want to call Rastelli?—Certainlrnot, if AnY
op
communication had been made, no consider
would induce me to send him away.
,
Lord LAUDERDALE.—Q. Was not Rasteii; °
of the witnesses of the riot at Dover ?—A.-1
un
derstood he was.
Lord liEtyro-,t thought that any thing that
he
tj
understood from • another could not be admitte'
as evidence.

The LORD CHANCELLOR thought it might. no,
Q. Was not Rastelli himself maltreated at Yd,
ver ?—A. I understood they were all maltreats

The witness then withdrew.
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Lord LAUDERDALE then rose for the p„ 5,
-= ,
of moving that the evidence of Mr. Powell sh°ll.s„
be printed separately from the rest of the ming'ev
Lord ERSKrNE thought that the House
not now- to• declare an. act which they hau.reifie
mitted to be used by printing it separately. he,
object of calling. Mr. Powell was to examine o'll,l
'titer, having committed an act of a serious nattifel
be deserved to be punished. The Noble 11°1
was anxious that the examination of Mr. Poreol
should •be expunged, because it had not bee° d
the issue of this proceeding. He. (Lord ErSl‘lllto
was of opinion that the same rule would applyj
most of the questions asked by his Noble 311
Learned Friend. for
Lord LAUDERDALE said that • his • reason
keeping this examination separatit.Was,' that sine
the commencement of this proceeding, this 11°``0l
had endeavoured to assimilate it to a court 0
law ; but he conceived that all the :rules' of 09d
of law had been violated. Here the • case ,
ea
been'opened . by four of the Noble, Lords, `vto
were Judges in this case. And According
all the knowledge- he had of, the-proceedings 11,
courts of law, the case was opened by the Ce'v"l
sel. • Here the case -was directly opposite. et
Earl -GREY observed that he was not aol
whether he was one-of the four Noble Lords `.4.1:
had come under the displeasure of his N°,„
Friend for their conduct of yesterday; but "-
certainly should not attempt to mimic the unive.tri;
sal forbearance and extraordinary mildness 10 a
which that' Noble Lord had always conductec
himself, and especially in the course of the presOit
proceeding(a laugh.)—The Noble Lord hs
called their Lordships judges in this ease;
but he (Earl G.) knew not by what 133'
.1e
they could Le called wish. justice. ,a
trusted,- howev'er, that their Lordships vveu'r
endeavour to do justice between those* I*',
ties, add satisfy the minds -.of the public;
let the capacity which their. Lordships filled "to
whatever it might. If, however, they were
be called the Judges,.he contended that the e:4:
mination of Mr. Powell had been perfectly re
.
gular, and perfectly consistent with that otlict;
for it was universally known, that in the Cultr
beloWs if, in the course of a judicial proceediri;
before those Courts, it appeared that any perseer
had, by withdrawing the witnesses, or any et'he
act, attempted to prevent the course of justi.;
-itwas the constant practice.of the Courts. telfio
1P" that person brought before them, and ex 0.
examine him on-the subject.
our
Lord REDESDALE said a few words in fa"-
of the examination remaining on the minutes.
Earl DONOUGHMORE said, that so far fr°,
considering that this examination ought to be eft
punged, he thought it was a most. material Pad
'of
.the case which their Lordships were cal'ed,
upon to decide. The present prosecution llor
he admitted, been justly called anomalous ;
it was the proceeding of the Government
one individual ; and he conceived that the u„4
vernment had only done their duty in institut7ie
the prosecution. 'But it was but fair, op ,tlie
other hand, to make some consideration for 'lit
accused, exposed as she was to the whole wet .or
of the Government influence;' and, in--that 1.10,t
of the case, he should most 'readily agree
whatever benefit she could deriVe from the,ria
ting this examination on the minutes, she slicu
receive. • 00
The Earl of CARNARVON was also of 01)°,,5,
that the evidence should ternain'on the LIAOv
and he pointed out the abStirdity into which I:,
House would 'fall, if, after having ca11ec1,.%,.
Counsel to the bar, and heard them on the cluel3 e,
lion, their Lordships should declare that I.:'
had passed should form no part of the proceedifist;
• The Loan CHANCELLOR made a few obser,,j,
tions as to the facility with which their P`ci,
ships might .be able to obtain the printed hid
deuce, and referring to the remarks, which, ho
fallen from the,four .Noble Lords yesterdaY;sc of
had been particularly alluded to by the Ear;oil
Lauderdale, his Lordship observed, that he it
yesterday heard a species of noise which, `ter,
were called eloquence, be would defy an ri
ureter of the House to explain it.
The question whether the examination sheitliot.
stand upon the minutes was then putand. agree‘
la,'
JOSEPH PLANTA, Esq. was then called ill,

examiner( by Lord CAR!. ARVON.
Calf
Q. Are you Under Secretary in Lord C4s`
reagh's Office ?—A. I am.
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Do you remember an application made I{or
by Mr. Powell, in September, fora passP°r;'ti it
Rastelli ?—Mr. Powell came to me and 6ci as
had been determined to send Rastelli al:nTateps
a courier, and desired.me to take tire Offici9l,too
for that purpose. I consequently ortiE'reL' b
passport, it was signed by Lord Castleretv
but signed passports are kept in the office/
for such occasions ; and the passport for itALota
was one of those, I made no application to