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London, England, 1816-06-15 00:00:00

pujiLlC It ETItENCHNIENTB.

A question was asked by Member, respecting
when Any Report was to by given to the _House
of Retrenchments in the .Expeneei in Public
Offices ? r ,
Lord CASTLE:figAGIT 531 d, that a Repoi4 had
'Peen -received from the Commissioners appointed
by titi; Trewiner, and wns now tinder the consi-
drration of Goyernmelit. lie thought .that it,
Nroidtl' be the most satisfactory way to put, l'arlia.
went in possession of the whole mut,ier, which

could he conveniently done early next Session.
'rims Ptirlin:lent could exercise its own irtflgtpoit
on the arrant;emet►t. A partial repast now' could
not prove 'so skisittetory. It would Ile n►uch
tatter ri;i"tilt: House to bitve.tht whole i'epoil in
one vim-.

•CONFERXNCE.
A Message from the Lords was received, desir-
ing a effliferetfte on Tuesday-concerning the sub-
ject-matter of the 'last conference.--:'Agreed to. .
NATIONAL MoNVNIENTS.
Mr, TtEnzmy. observed, that an advertisement
had appeared soliciting .designs for torn national
monuments, and stating their expence at 300,0001.
Ile hoped no final step's would be tai en'on this
subject till next Session, cousidering the present
distressed State of the country., It was very pro-
bable thatthe sum of 300,0001. would extend to
half a million ihr nbjects,.of no real public utility.
Two separate edifices were proposed to be coo.
structed—one toe Waterloo, and one for Traf,il-
gar, The latter victory had quite passed over fur
years, till after the Watet 100 monument was vot-
i.d.. The commemoration of these great victories
of our navy and army must always remain in the
memory of every man in the conntry, 6°0;0) to
monuments were erected. if the luau wcrc per.
sited in, he should apply to the sense td the
Bonne opon it early next' Session ; and he hoped
he should not then be told he was too late,
The CIiANCELLOR of LIM EXCIMWER sail, it
was not intended immediately to propose any vote.
or commence any work. The advertisement was
merely dtrected to the artists ; and all that was
to be inferred from it was, inerelY a disposition
to receive pious and designs. There was no
tentIVII of any farther 'proposition on the abject
this Session. When the debigul were received,
it would remain with the Tieasitry.nitimately
.to
decine between them, as to their merits and ex -
'pence*: then the lreasUry could see what could
be done at the least public, expellee, and propose,
the stun required. These designs might probahly
be received in a' few months. All that had been
done was to prevent any unnecessary waste of I
time.

Arr. TIERNEY was glad to hear that this business
WHS not to he immediately proceeded in ; but it
did seem deteimined by the Treasury advei rise-
Mew that 300,0001. should be expended for the
two monuments. This advertisement. was quite
without the knowledge .ot Parliament.
.I.lr. LONG said, the subject must certainly come
completely
.baore Parliament : but
;the Vight
lion. Gentleman *as in fact 'complaining of the
votes of the House, which had decided'in favour
Of the two monuments for-Waterloo and Tr. 611-
gar. Government, in acting on the votes, Must
mention some sui» in calling on the artists to send
in their designs Not only were the 1110'11UlnentS
voted, but an address to the Prince Regent was
also-passed, to pray that the votes should be cid-
ried Into etreet•

HUSBANDRY-HORSE 111
On the• Order of the Day tor the third rending
at this Bill, Sir C. BURRBLI, objected to it as a
tax, not on Inttury, but on husbandry.
Sir W. W. WiNt4 uppu'ed the priociple of the
Bill altogether.
After a few words fry,►ru the Chancellor of the
17.,xchequer and Mr. Davenport, the Bill was read
a third time.

Sir CO ARLES Mall P.Lf, then. proposed the. fol-
lowing clause by' way of. rider :—" ,Thar front
and after the 50 day of May, 1810, so mirth or
the said Act as related to the tax on husbandry
horses t,hould cease and determine."
M r. \V I( &NE: opposed the clause, %Viten the Honse
di% hied—,
Yer the cruse, 65 I Against it, 112 Majority,l7,
On nu re-admission to the gallery, we found
the CHANCIELLOR of the .ESCRECtUaII proposing
the introduction of another claese, the object of
which we could not a,scertain. On a division, the
numbers were—
For the cbu,e, 75 FAgainst it, srt 1 Majority, se.
coNsourvatoN of THE TWO EXcIiEQUERS.
The House went into a Committee on the. .A.,
chequer Consolidathm Bill.
Sir J.' NEW pont objected to'the clause fin!'
creating .a Vice-Ttcasurer, with Csalwry Pt 3500/.
a-vettr, He contended that his office would be a
sinecure, since be 'would be obliged to enine OVer.
and attend this House, The only object of Mi-
nisters. Was to secure.the services of some eminent
person but in what way he did not choose to
explain. The office of Vice-Tr\msurer must be
discharged by a Deputy doting his absence, and
he wi,Shed to know what.would be the salary of
that.. Deputy.
The CHANCELLOR of the ExcusQueu said that
the Deputy Would not bare • • seat Parliament,
and would have a salary of 10001. a-year.
Sir J. Nawt'oiei law litat these would be two
offices instead of one; that the first would be a
Sinecure, and the second would have very little-to
do. Why not make at least the salary of the Vice-
Treasurer as low as that of his Deputy ? if that
arrangiunent were. persisted in the public must
seethat all protesiktits of 'economy made by
niitt,ri were nnfounfied.
The Ctimaccm.ant of the EXCHEQUER wished
the lion. liarone-t_ had stated what other ()glee,
could have been created instead of Vice-Treasurer.
lie then defended the necessity of such an ap-
pointtnent, as the mode of payment could 'not be'
changed, He contended that a Gentleman of high
rank and great respectability was alott“otopetent
to be the ViCe-Treasoret of Irelantl,as his yespon--
sibility would be very considerable. lie stated
that the Officer, 30 years'ago, before the office
had been abolished, had a salary of 10 or 11,0001.
a year, and could he- he considered overpaid nerve,
with 3;5001. ? lie Maintained that the duties of
the oflicewere so incessant, that even if the Vice-
Treasures. were to reside the whole year in Ire-
land, a -Deputy would still ,be:neeessary..
Mr. Potoormv contended that his Majesty's
Ministers dared not have introduced this most
shameless and:profligate, job if the Rouse had been
full.; this was the i'easln why they had brought
the Bill at the close of the Session. There was •
no responsibility. in the Officer proposed to be
crestedl his only .duty was -trii eimatetsign the
warrants:, given by -the Lord Lieutenant-, and -tor.
eee thiteihe yoticher was a-true one, by coinpar-
ing the.stun issued, with the warrant, and-seeing
that the amount was the same. lie had no
to interfere Ur remonstrate, but to obey. Why

themslintald he sit its Parliament ? He bad no at.-
counts to render, no explanations to give,why such
' a sum should have been issued. Ile was a mere
clerk, and yet he was to be . remunerated, with a
salary of 35001: a-year, and a seat in that house,
besides a
.deputy to perform' his ditties ! Why
should he have kgreater salary than any, of ;he
Lords of the Treasury, in Ireland, whose pay was
only 12001. a-year.. lle.had thought 20001. a-year
would have been a most ample salary,' but that
was before he knew the public were to be charged
With 10001. for a deputy. The expence contained
in this Bill would not -be the whole, but more
money would be asked to vimplete the establish-
ment. He should now propose to reduce the sa-
lary of the Vice Treasurer to 20001. a-year, in-
tending to 'take the next opportunity of endea-
touring to negative the clause for, giving that
thficera seat in Parliament and opposing the ere-
Hauit of a deputy,unless.he should be paid nut of
the salary of` his principal.. lie conelndeil by
movinz, that instead of the words 35001. be in-
serted 20001.
Mr. PEEL defended the Bill, and the appoint-
ment which it was intended to effect. , He con-
tended, that instead of violating the Act of Queen
Anne. by creating new offices, the Bill would abo-
liSh,eight Parliamentary Offices, five Lords of the
Irish Treasury, a Chancellor of the Exchequer,
a Secretary to the Chancellor of the Exchequer,
and a Secretary to the Irish Treasury. He.st.‘ted
that the duties and responsibility of the Vice.
.Treasurer would be considerable. Besides coon-
,tersigning the Lord LietitenatiCa warrants, he
would have to examine the accounts of the Auditor
of the Exchequer. As to the magnitude of his
salary, the Treasurer of the Navy. had 4,00d1.'
year, and yet his duties dol not exceed in import-
ance those which would devolve on the Vice;Trea-
sitter of Ireland, who would have only 3400 i.
It It was.said,-.that he should not have a higher sa-
lary than his Deputy, but there was this difference
between•them, that the Vice-Treasurer would'be
responsible, not 'only for his own acts; but for
those of .1 his Deputy.
Mr. PoNsotsTay explained, and ridiculed the 10.-
gie of the Right Hon. Gentleman, %vim contended,
that because a particular number of useless offices
were abolished, a certain number of other useless
Offices should he created hi their stead.,:As to the
Treasurer of the Navy, the reason why be had
4000/. a-year should come from the other side of
the House. He could give one however. The
Right Hon. Gentleman Mio filled that office had
spent a long portion of his' existence in public
'ditties, and therefore might, be entitled to that re-
munerat ion ; but 'why should, it be affixed to the
office itself, when it ;lipoid pass into the hands of
another ?, It was,now ae:inowledged that the du-
-60. of Treasurer Of the Navy would not be more
considerable than those of Vice-Treasurer of Ire- '
land yet the House Might recollect in what a
flame the Right 1100, Treasnrer of the Navy had
started up some time since, when some tionbt was
!bro.% non 'the magnitude of his ditties. The fact
was, that because' 400 W. a-yellr.yrere given to an
Officer to uo nothing, 3500/. mtist 'be lavished
upon another to do as little.
' Mr. PEEL Stated, that -the' Treasurer of the'
Navy had 40001. a-year, for the smile reason that.
the Right , Hun. (4entletnan himself. (Mr. Pou-
Sonhy) received 40001. a-year as late Chancellor
of Ireland, hyAct of Parliament, and as a reward
for eminent services.

Mr.PoszsoNßY thought no justification necessary
for'llis receiving-a provision. inadeby Act of Par-
liament for those, u. ho like him, resigned the
offices which they held. But lie should think Idif-
ferently were he holding an office of 4000/. a-year
for doing nothing:
. -Mr. V. Furzon RAID defended the logic of his
Ili& lion. Friend t Mr. Peel) and contended, that
if he had alluded to the 4000/. enjoyed by the
Right opposite, it was not in
the spirit of recrimination.
Mr. Rose .stated, ihat his salary was voted an-:
nuttily, anti therefore came under the notice of the
Haase every year. lie thought that if there was
no provision made for those who had spent their
lives in official duties; the public wotilt4 he less
.likely to be well served. Ile was willing to ac-
knowledge, that the duties of the l'reastuer of the
Nary %%tie not equal to the magnitude of the
fail', hut it Ivas an offiee given to those who had
led a long life 'II thity, Without having the
means of- saving a fortnne, for there Were feW
offices so well. paid, that their Occupiers could lay
by, a 1001. a-year, •
Mr. l'intiNior said, -that be had never .heard the.
Oflice of 'Treasurer of the Navy defended on tliese
gi winds before. The Right Hon. Gentleman
spAte of it in a very pathetic way, as being a re-
ward for his long services.' Bat before he was
Treasurer of the 'Navy he had secured his reward,
for •he enjoyed another 'place of !mpg,. a year.
He could not have received less than 70001. last
vearfrom his Oflice of Clerk of Parliament. But
the Right Hon. Gentleman anticipated the reward
of his stn), by getting a place for hint almost as
soon as.be„Wirs .born. Ile fetes ready to admit,
that, Ile 'llad.heen a Useful 'servant of the public,
but the public had also done a vast deal for hint,
It was iniposiible that the etnoluments Of himself
and his two sons could 1.,!:e less than 20,0001. a
,
year. Thus-the :battery of tne yoce,..74'rea3tirer of,
, Ireland, and.that of the 'treasury of the Navy,
ought by no Means to be put in comparison: The
Bight klon,. Gentlemen seemed to think that when
certain offices were no lotiger necessary, it Was a.
meritorious act on their part to give them tip. But
he took this to be the most outrageous, unucces-
sant, and scandalous job that ever any Ministers
had the•liardihood to- engage. in. Ile. then ani-
madverted-on the observations of the. Chancellor
of the Exchequer, in defence of the lie w appoint-
, merit, remarking, that as a Gentleman WAS 'to
be put in Parliament at -the eicpetiee,ot 3,5001: '
a year, to assist the Ilight lltinourable,GentleMan,
it would not be amiss to have a Committee of
.10.
(Wiry to ascertain -who this cientlentan is, and
whether he is money l►t Is to "receive,
as it might turn out that his talents might not be
worth-as -many pence. If thii officer was to be'a
cheek upon the 'Lord Lieutenant of behold, the
Root, I.,rd Lieutenant- had Lost his- dignity
with a vengeanee 'as this Vice-Treasurer was
'l('!*‘‘co4"lg,. to '4pgituid innuedhttelv, and to leave
only his Deputy to check the LOrd Lieuten-'
ant, which, in Tact, would be -no aleck orim

lam at all. In short, this was an office wbiell
quired no extraordinary talents whatever, and weir
purely tine of Ministerial patronage. He could,
not help thinking that the Deputy, on represent.;
lug the hardship of his case, in having all the
duty to perform, would get 15001. a-year instead
ot 10001. 'Pius there was 4.5001, kir 50001. a-year
to be taken unnecessarily out of the pockets of
the people ; and could the Noble Lord believe
that the country did not yietv all this with dis-
glist—wheti by these two offices the salaries of so
many poor, miserable, dismissed Clerki, were
swallowed up ? It was a robbery, and nothing
else, upon the public. It was a cruel insidcto
the dignity of many of the oldest and most re-
spectable families in the kingdom, 'to say, that
moustrons.job was to be paid for out of their.
pockets, pinched and oppressed as they were b
the weight ot taxation. It was a burlesque upon
the
,promised economy and retrenchment, and lie
hoped the House would check the career of Mini-
sters, who did not know what economy and re"
trenchmeut meant. He trusted tliateven at this'
late period of the Session, a sufficient number de
independent'Members would be found to consign
the attempt to the contempt and indignation it
4eserves.
Mr. Giers was of opinion that 20001, a-year
was an adequate remuneration.
Lord CASTLEREAGH detended the appointment,
contending that the Bight Honourable Gentle-
ittripooyiet thef()r sautehestrprirreissesiosent
of :rtg,iiirinieWtyntoSi
might
places and offices; against the abolition of
which
Parliament had always set their face, A certain
quantaut of influence of the Crown 11,4(1
been deemed a just and necessary privilege of the
onstitution. Tire arguments of the Right 14°11,*
Gentleman were only ad eaptandana. The Act 01.,
Queen' Ann had assigned certain limits beyond
which the patronage of the Crown (1)041 11'4 he
extended. He slimed that there was, by ‘ll4'
arrangement, an annihilation of 5 sea" iii the
r'
House, and contended that the progress 'l7;
im ' prOvement of Ireland, would be poi",
impeded, if such executive offices as o'l'
were not continued, There must be such °l*
cial, persons in Ireland, to co-operate in kilo
views of the Government at home. He ae;
fended the appointment at the salary •op 05C"
by Ministers. It was not a fanciful office, crest'
ed by his Right Hon. Friend, but only a recur'
'Time to the ancient system, by appointing one
Vice-Treasurer, instead of three, who formed/
existed at the salaries of 30001. a-year. each'
(Hear, hear !)—The Right Honourable Geode'
man had therefore made out no case whatever
against the Bill. If the place were put up to say
lion, no doubt a person would be found to exe"
cute its duties for a lower salary; but this we"
principle unknown to the Constitution. Ile knew
of noinstance since Mr. Burke's Bill, in "'J.','t,
the influence of the Crown had been more* dee'"
sleety curtailed than by the Present measure.
Sir JOHN NEwPonT read the Preamble of 11'.
Act of 1807, for the abolition of unnecesierY Sim
necures, in consequence of which 35 office, wrir
abolished in the Customs, Excise, and other Ile:
partments. He himself carried into effect the red
ePlallinaemnednattisoencoonf the
de
d liCienewomttitst.ee ofe
,JinidcluniorYtir'd.caner:
the country was a gainer by having only tnf!„„ ic
Treasurer instead of three; but even tills "::a
under the present circumstances', in his' 41°14
unnecessary.
4`.
Lord Castlereagh and Sir J.', e„Tort 0
plained.
Mr. Goaa LANGTON said, he should nut oper-
form his duty to his Constituents,' if he did I.;
protest against this most scandalous job.
country was not in a state to bear such prows',
lity, as it could not support itself, unless relieve;
from farther harthens to-the amount ot °r

millions a-year., " • •
,
Mr. STUART WORTLEY WAS, not satisfied Olt
the arguments of Ministers in favour of the otnee
in ooestion, because they had abolished five dn;
necessary offices outof eight. Aia :salary of °"i
20001. a year, its was impossible to' believe 0",
the office of Vice-Treasurer would not be eagerly
sottght for. The case out to be looked- at 01
neW One, and not to be paid for'according to c..,"
precedents.
lIUSKTSSON contended that this office
not a new demand on the public purse, but otilY
a regulation arising, out of the old estaßlishmeot•
Ile defended the 'higher remuneration, on tha
ground of the responsibility of the office. The err
of Parliament alludedto by the Right Hon BOP
net was only the following op of the'recommea°
dation of the responsible Servants of the Crown;
and the [tight Hon. Baronet could not, as far 65
he saw, do any thing else than use his effort 4
7 cart.; it into execution. The Right Hon. Leib
tleman' made a.variety of observations in det.e",l
of his own office (the Surveyor of MOO
FOrests), tvhicll arose out of the -suppression 0.
two offices, which formerly existed, and he sr.*
geed that the abolition of one of them was a beilt
fit to the public, and a precedent for the appol1';;
ment triad; was -now the subject of debate. 4
replied at some length to the arguments of tit°
Gentlemin 'opposite, against-the necessity of thf:
office of Vice,Treasurer, all of which he lusistr(;
were fallacious. The saving of 10001, Isleacyj
would, he contended,' risk much discontent, 1°;.
be the loss of many thousands by the want'S
due administration of the public affairs.
Lord A. HAMILTON' objected to the aPr'nof
metit, as totally inconsistent-with the pledge'
economy and retrenchment Airco by the crovt!..
He saw .occasion for the office of the .Deputy:
'rite country could not see these things going° -
without believing that all the professions of ec°!`
nanny were a mockery and a farce.: is
Sui)rePa eDiliKldle`tc,iooti
dn.o declaredutviilc
he was at tit+
intl ur quite side; he ellaUl
vote. 1 But probably sum further discussion llttgltt
clear bp his doubts. fie alluded to the situa ll
held by hii Learned and Right. Hon. Friend Ca
Ponsonby), who received 80001. a year, and .
tired with only half that suns ; and yet the
4,111 ern'''
laments
a'itightHon. Gentleman (1.:11%I;011.`1:::i;
who admitted that he had received mare
duties reeniied, and hiol retired ern
year besides were, put in coniparitolt with ally :
of his Right HOll. Friend. The com iparson vs'
'

odioni. -
A Member (we hcreve Mr. USTI.VSS) 013--

terve& that if the nonourahle Gentleman WAN
resent who expected to have the appointment of
Vice-Treasurer,' he ought to withdraw..
Mr. WYNtsts argued at
.souse length against the
appointment., He expected the Housc
bare heard What the functions were whiA dc-
mantled so large a salary, otheniise it
,could not
be known %vhether the salary were not much
greater than the duties of the office required. - The
. Gentlemen who contended only 48 hours ago that
the. Treasurership of Greenwich Hospital, was a
military apptiintment, were not' competent to sa-
tisfy the House that the appointment of the Vice-
Treasurer of Ireland was of the same description.
she first proof_ of economy given by. Ministers
this Session was an. attempt to raise the salary of
the Secretary of the Admiralty from 30001.m7year
to 404 ; the last was, the attempt to establish
H Sinecure of 3,5001. a .year for the place of the
Vice-Treasurer of Ireland.
Mr, I:I,,MAterIN also argued against the neces-
sity of the appointment it the duty was to be done
b.y a deputy. , He. could not diJover an .atom of
the great responsibility that had been spoken of.
petAm .did not differ from a clerk who sign-
tChis name to the corner of an Exchequer War-
rant.
Mr. BR,SND had not been able to collect from
any arguments he had heard, that this was an
office of responsibility. It was merely and purely
one of Mintstt'rial influence. He considered the
proposed salary to he unnecessary and enormous,
and he therefore trusted it would awake that in-
dignation and disgust in the House, which be was
satisfied it would excite itt the country.
For the Amendment
r
Avityst it

:Majority in favour of the Original Motion .... 42
hc It St ran getS were ve-lidatit!ed, the Com-
mittee was'prueeeding with the other claw•es of
the Bill.
Mr. PoNsotsav objected to the clause which
provided that a deputy should be appointed to ex-
ercise the functions of Vice-Treasurig, during the
absence of that officer troni Ireland. He moved
that that clause should be left out.
Lord pASTLEREAGH &fended the clause.
Mr. TIERNEY sid, having given the Vice-trea-
surer a large salary, it was now proposed to in-
vite hint to take a seat In that House, and to give
Lim a deputy to perform his duty in the mean
time. this appeared to hint making the office a
young sinecure at once.
Mr. S. WoRTLEY thought, as the House had
sledded that a salary should be +attached to the.
(ace ut Vice Treasurer, tliai would cause it to he
filled by some person of high consideration, it was
proper such person should be enabled to attend in
Parliament, to explain and viqicate his official
conduct.

Mr PONSONIFY called on the Hon, Gentleman
to look to the consequences of his own ergimient.
It came to this, that because too great a salary
was to be given to the Vice-Treasurer, the per-
son holding that office (aught to be brought into
Patliarneut. This appeared to host to be one of
the lutist direct itivitatione Ministers to be ex-
ttavagantthat he had ever heard.
After a few observations from Sir,M. W. RID-
-ILEY, Mr. LITTLETON, and S;l* J. Niti,vroaT,
The CIIANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUIZII remark-
et], in answer to the objections Made to appoint-
ing a Deputy to the VieeTrelsurer, that unless a
Gentleman could be found to fill that office wholly
free from human infirmities---who would never
know a clay's illness—never want a day's recrea-
tion in the country, Or any sort of relaxation, a
Deputy was absolutely necessary.
Mr. ROHNER said, the Right Honourable Geni-
tleman had made oat a medicaloase ; but he would
submit another to' him (the Chancellor of the
Exchequer) , on which he wished to have his
opiniou. If the Deputy should be taken ill, 'while
the principal was gttending duty in Parlia-
ment, or be affected by any of the-other huMan
infirmities--.-to which be hadalluded, would-not the
appointment of a Vice Deputy become necessary./
The CHANCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER replied,
but could not be distinctly heard in the Gallery',
Mr. LYTTLETON thought, if a Deputy were ap-:
pointed, his scam ought to be paid out of that
of the principal.
• Mr. %V. WYNNE wished to know if a Deputy
Vice... Treasurer was now so necessary, how the
business over which he was to preside bad for-
merly,beetkcarried on in Ireland, while the whole
of the Lords of Treasury were recreating in the
country, a circumstance which bad ftequcntly oc-
,cerred without giving rise to 'any coutpleint, so
far as was informed.
Cominittce divided ; the numbers were?...
Far the Clause 107
Against it
Majority.
When Stran,4,ers were re-admitted, the Bill had
passed through the Committee, and the House
having resumed, the Report was ordered to be
brought up ou Monday.
On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the Ex-
CtIeCtLIER, it was ordered, 'diet the 'House nn its
rising should adjourn to Monday.
Ain the third reading of the Gram! Jury Present-
'teeth Bill-, Lord CAsTLP.UEAGII 1110ved an addi.
Canal clause, in substance the Allow as that pro-
Tosed on a former night, and agreed to ,
Alter a short conversation, in which Mr. Liar.
iner, Yunstiuhy, and Sir F. Flood participated,
the Bill was teasso.
The Stage. coach 'Bill was read a second time,
end 'committed for. Tuesday. •
Hoetett hoped, at that late hour, the
lloySe would not he called upon to proceed vitlt
the Insolvent Debtors' Deteotioo Bill. If this
were attempted to be brought on then, he should
feet it his duty to oppose it. Ile hoped the Hon.
Gentleman (Mr. Lockhart) would cOuseut to
post pone tire Order of the 133 y.
Mr. LOCKIJART BOA the subject had, been in-
restigated by a Committee, the Report of which
would he brought up on,Mouday, when he IlLnder-
atood the Chairman wool(' more for leave to bring:
in a and 'of course he (Mr. Lockhart) should
proceed no further in the business et. present.
Qn the motioo, for going into -n Committee °I)
the IIgHE Votntty Bill,. a diSCHsSiitil took place,
%'inch Mr. Marryat, the Chancellor of the
,txthequer, Mr. Gordon, Mr. and Mr,
""k4it.tn, parCiciputed. 'nue Bill then posed
thiough a Cottintince„ and was ordercti to Do re-
ported on anidao .
JorA (.1° 1. art*

LAW IN TaLAILNtIt...

COURT OP, CHANCIZRY, Juan. 4.

To-day being the first 'Ot "ferni, the Loitr) Cttai;=
ELLOR, accompanied by his HHul{u►Er the VieK
CIIANCELLOti, t11i!-MASTIO1 of th'e ROLLS, Mid two
Masters, arri►'ed at IVestntinster Hall; twin (►is
house in Redto'►l-sr{ttare, and opened the Colin
ill form, to a FA anendance At Bar.

EX PARTE JOE IN THE MATTER OF THOMAS, MIL-
LIS, AND COCK. •
This cause, which has so iout been before the
Court, and to which almost all the Gentlemen of
eminence in the profession arc engaged, was again
proceeded in.
His LonosutP, in pronouncing judgment, at
length directed that issues might be taken to try
the validity of. certain acts of bankruptcy, said to
have been committed on 'three different days: -for
this, purpose it might he nceessory to have the
evidence of a Mr. Magherc, wlktve affidarits had
been much commented on with respect to the
costs. lie would take care to give such directions
to the Learned Judge who tried the cause to note
to him the full particulars. With respect to the
hardship of Mr. Thomas's case, he felt there was
no choice left for hint but to Make the order as he
had pronounced it.

COURT OF KING'S BENCH, JUNE 14.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved fur a Manila,.
mus to be directed to the Common Council of
Wickham, commanding them to restore a Gen
Hermit, to the office of Master of the Grammar
School of the Borough, whOm they bad displaced
under the following circumstances :--He had
been d my appointed Master of the School, and.for
his meritoriOns services had no encreased salary
granted him, for the continuance of his own of-
lice, and not to be conidered as an increase to
his successors, anti was also allowed to take
hoarders not on the foundation. lie had taken a
`niece into his house, whom he thought of irre-
proachable morals, but she had unfortunately be-
come pregnant of an illegitimate child ; but he
'positively swore that he was wholly unconnected
with this event, except as it was a misfortune hap-
pening in his 11014. lie WAS also himself in Al-
derman of the Borough ; and, lie stated, that he
nttended a Meeting, at whiclite found, on his en-
trance, they were discussing the event in his
fa-
mily. Some one said, Are you guilty or not
guilty 1 he said, he was nOt: guilty ; hut, without
any examination of the facts, they had proceeded
to.displace him, on the supposition gist he :tad
been the anthar of this event in his

The Learned Counsel said, he wholly disclaimed
this by his afli lAVII; and, however painful it was
to the young woman, she had also made affidavit,
in which she disclosed the name of the father of
her child.—Rule granted.

SHERIFFS' COURT, BEDFORD-ROW, rRIDAY, Jusr.l4.

Crkiftt. CON.
Silt E. W.V. U. OVEN, K. B. V. 1115C.K E.

Mr. GURN rY opet,ed the pleading. Vie de-
claration stated, chat the t Le.enillmiit
and criminally known the %rife ut the phintol.
For this injury he had laid his damages at 10,0001.
'f be ttcr *had sitlfeCed Judgment to go by de-
fault, and the Jury were now to inquire into and
assess the damAg's2s. .

Set jeant 13tsr stated the case. lie had the
honour ot attending the Court this day on behalf
of Sir Enw.trd Owen, better known.to the Jitry
mid to the pubtie by the title tit Commodore
Owen, one of the most enterprising, gallant,
and judicinns offieers that belonged to that
most valuable service the Navy. This excellent
officer came before the Court to complain of
one of the Most grievous. injuries that could
be conceived—he meant the seduction of his
affections. There was no class of crimes
that exhibited a greater diversity of feature than
that to which the present case belonged ; and
when he looked to the situation in life of the emu-
Plaining party—when be 'considered the terms on
which ha 'had lived with his wife—when he reflect-
ed on her character and conduct previous to her
connexion with the defendant-he was sure the
jury would perceive, all the circumstances being
laid before them, that this wits a case which sto"
;at the top of the catalogue for exemplary da-
mages. lie had already stated who the plaintiff
was.: -Where be had been for a great number of
years must be known to every gentleman who took
any interesi in the great events which had, for a se-
ries of years, occurred in Europe ; for his'nettne had
been constantly before his cottut rynten. They fittest
recollect him comma mlinga squad; on off Boulogne,
and, when his services were no longer required
there, he was caltzd to an equally hototurable and
arduous duty, on the Lakes of Canada. Whilst
the glint wa's employed on this last station, the
clefoutint , who Acted Its apothecary to -the family,
availed himself of the opportunity '%vhich Sir Ed-
ward Owen's absence afforded, to seduce the af-
fections of his hitherto virtuous and honourable
wile. From what he hail already cated, he
thought the Jury were prepared to say, that thin
was a Case which came within the Ch:SCript ion he
had' given of it, and called for very large damages.
It was, however, a most painful dutyto hint to be
obliged to detail at letigth all the circutuitences
of this transaction. Sir Edward Owen command-
ed a squadron off Boulogue in the year 1802 :
lie was constantly in the habit of coming to. Dover
and Deal,- for those particular purposes which fre-
quently rendered it necessary for a Vl%llllll'oo to
ton into port. The lady was the daughter of a re-
seectablelnembet of the legal profession, who had,
in 1802, retired from its fatigues, and was living
privately at Deal, the course of Sir Edward
Owen's visit to that town, he became acquainted
with the lady and her father. She was beautiful, and
possessed of every usual (einale accomplishment.
Sit, telw. Owen paid his addresses to her, and a
marriage was the consequence. It was solemniz-
ed with the perfect approbation of the father and
friends of the lady. Sir Edward was then 31 years
of age., and his bride was jest turners of 31—so
that no dispaelty of age could be alleged s a cause
for unhappiness. They lived together, down to
the 'Moment When, the seduction took place, in
the Most affectionate !paiter. It was impossible
for any two persons to live together more happily.
The attentions of the plaintiff to his lady were
markecrby the utmost kinthriess, and she returned
them effectionatelY. The jury would find, that
while Sir &was absent in the service of his country,
Lady Owen manifested the most anxious dcs';:c 1.91

species of feelint; Lelaved
'wife might be expected to show, when the object
of her afactions was abroad, eletiosed to every de-
se'ription of peril: fie lead already utentioned„that
wino the Boulogne fibtilla was put an end to, Sir
D'alward wets sent to serve his Conntry.ou the Lakes
Canada : Lady Owen was inconsolable en that
occasion ; she felt all that a wife ought to feel fur
the loss of such a husband. During the period of
:Sir Edward's absence, Lady (wen's state of health
was, exceedingly. bad. She was attended, in the
first place, by the father of the defendant, who
was an apothecary in the neighbourhood of Deal,
and afterwards by the defendant himself. The
visits of the defendant' were extremely frequent,
so much so us to excite a suspicion that he was
not attendiag the Lady for the purpose Of re-esta--;
bliShing tier health, or that of any part of her fa-
tally, but that he was engaged in warping her mind,
and seducing her affections from her husband.
No doubt could rest on the minds of the Jury
and the linderSheriff would State to theta, from
the circumstance Of judgment having gone by de-
fault, that the act of adultery was commit tett.—
But, in order to chew the atrocity of the case, he -
Would clearly prove that the crime was effected
White Sir Edward was absent on the Lakes of Ca-
nada. On his return, he was informed by some
friends that his Lady;had conducted herself iei;•
properly with the defendant during his absence.
Tue Jut y might easily judge what sensation: tabus-
. band must fetl, when, on his return train a danger-
ous service, he received such- melancholy intelli-
gence relative to a wife, whom, up to that time,
tie loved eatirely. Sir Ed ward behaved like. a
man of firmness on this trying occasion. 'He
selected two friends, who were the relatives
of hit Lady, and directed, them to enter into an
fivitestigatiou of the utmices; being deter-
mined to have no connexion. or correspondence
with- his wile till the truth was fully established.
These two(ientlemen proceeded with the inquiry ;
but it appeared they had not got hold of the right
clue, or the business would-then have been com-
pletely developed. After they had looked into all
tite information which, they had been able to col.
lect, they reported, that the rumour of Lady
Owen's improper conduct was without fouiulaiuii.
'there teas not a happier man in.the world than Sir
Edward, when the innocence of his Lady • wee
cdnommicated to him. He returned with redoubled,
pleasure to nit wile. He found her in an ill'state
of 'health ; and imagining that her indispo-
sition arose . from the calumnious reports which
had occasioned , the inquiry, and might have
made a deep impres,ion on her mind, he felt
extremely anxious for' her situation, and imme-
diately took the best means for the restoration of
leer health. He proceeded with her to London,
:mnd placed her under the care of Dr. Pemberton.
The Jbry would learn trees him the manner. in
which Sir Edward Owen conducted himself to-
wards. his wife, while he was attending her for
the illness under which she then laboured. While
the pi lintiff was thus exerting him'self for the re-7
covery of his wife, this Deal apothecury had left
his hilliness; and was haunting the lodgings of the
lady in London. Her health being iestored, Litty
Owen lemma! to Deal, and theta, for the first
time, Sir Edward was informed by his servant,
that a criminal connection had undoubtedly taken
place, and was of long standit.g, between his wife
and the defendant. The moment the communication
was made, Sir Edward determined to investigate
the business closely; but the lady, hearing time,
urn inquiry Was shout to. take, place, knowing the
quarter frbm whence the information came, and
being assured it,was impossible 'she could now
escape as site had before done, eloped from her
husband's house with the defendant. Edward
Owen, though as is man of honour lie could nevet '
live with his Lady again, was 'anxious to rescue
`her from that ruin which the defendant was pre-.
paring for her' lie sent an old servant otter her,
rho had long lived in her family, for the purpose
of 'discovering where she was, and also for the
purpose of directing her steps to a place where
alit: might be saved front the Misery which her
connection with the defendant was likely to pro-
duce. This servant 'found her; and he exerted all
that Zeal which servants, if 'kindly treated, always
show for the interest of those lamilies to
they belong, to induce tier to return. Auxions
to get her away frion the seducer, he'aaid"to him,
" Sir, you had better leave this Lady, tort Sir
Edward Owen will soon he here." begged
the Jury to tidy particular attention to the anstVer
of the del entiant—" I don't care," said he, " for
Sir Edward ; I have: pistols about' Me, arid if he
comes, I will shoot ban." So that, after he hatl'
seduced 111i$ gallant Officer's wite4-elt,r het had
assassinated his eeace—he was ready, it the in-
jured husband came to rescue this Lady hem bi 3
adulterous embrace, to become the ass'assin of his
person. The 'patties, front that 'period to the
present, had not separated. This was the case
which he had tolay before the Jury.
Admiral Sir George Campbell, .Admiral Lord
Keith, hear-Atliniral Seoul Admiral, Sir W.
Voting, and Admiral Sir. Richard Leo, spoke, its'
'the most decided terms, of the alfectionate attech-
tnetit'which seemed to subsist between Sir Edward
and Lady Owen.
A series of witnesses proved the mode adopted
by the defendant and Lary °Wen in cue tying on
their correspondence through the medium of a fe-
male servant,.

elipeffielit Was. proved by a post-boy; and
the tact of their loiving slept together at the lull
ut SOlithrith kpOSta to by a remlle servant.-
kiere the plqintiti's Qaso, wits ClOSeci.

Mr; BROUOIJAM then addressee) the Jury on,the
part of the detendant,and epillOWltted with great
force upon -the disparity of years between the
parties (the Lady being forty years of rtg, the
defendant Only twenty...4m) ; Fyid thence inferred
that the seduction must have been, in point of
fact, Committed by rite elder. lie then impress-
ed upon ihe'Jury that no breach of medical eon-
fidence hart been committed, as the father of the
youth was,ln reality, the professional attentlAnt,
anti not his son, who was the unfortunate yietjtu
of this attachment, now a beggar, the partner.
-ship with his lather Ilissolyed, and his own pros-
pects in tinned and iintlone.
The, Deputy Sheriff then summed np the evi-
dence to the Jury, who retired for 20 minutes,
anti brought in At verdict of kiftccn squitdred
POUR* Damages for the Plaintiff.