Star.
London, England, 1808-01-27 00:00:00

Mr. Porreetart

be informed of the 1.,
the answer received :
Gentleman, who must .
pens that passed much
totally ignorantepon
the particular ones will tee htitt
pose he had avowed. He sunee,
''that some instructions from his Majesty's SeCietailef.
State had accompanied his -Majesty's. request, to the
British Minister at the Russian Court, as to the man-
ner and tone in which he was to prose and support
it. Some answer Must, he supposed, have been re-
ceived in return, accompanied by the opinion of his
Majesty's Ambassador at. the Russian Court. In
short, it must be for the kindness of' the Right Hon.
i Gentleman to instruct him bow he was to shape his
motion, in order 'to obtain the precise ifignMation he
wished for.
To this Mr. Secretary-CANNIN— -.G. assented. Both
the Right Honourable. Gentlemen withdrew;: and
Mr. PONSONBY, on his retutit tot Henget
//tend an Address to his Mrajeitty,• the stsula
forms, praying'that he would be' giltidttily pleased
to order that there be laid before the *use Copies*
of such Papers as passed between his Majesty's Mi-
nisters and his Amba.Ssador at. the Court of Itkissii;
relative to his Majesty's reifilest flif the Mediation
of' Ixt4serial Majetty towards a Restoration of
Peace between his Majesty and the Crown of Den-
mark.--.-Ordered
IDX;OCIATION FOR PEACE, AND Al M& TWRATY. *ft*
PORTUGAU.
Mr. WI4IITBREAD'rose to-ask the• Right Hon.
Secretary (Mr. CANNING) whether' it' wisAhe inten-
tion of his-Majesty's Ministers to bring' forward any
specific proposition founded upon the papers this night
laid upon the table ; because if not,• he should now
give notice that he would, on a day which he could
not then name, bring forward a proposition of the
utmost importance; namely, for inquiry respecting
the propriety of employing the present season for. ne-
gociating a peace with France. While-lie vraincm his
legs, he wished to ask his Majesty!" Ministers:if there
was any objection to lay beforethe'Hotite a copy of
the Secret Treaty entered into with POrtugal, or the
dispatches from Lord Rosslyn, in consequence of
which his Majesty's Ministers had resolved on not de-
fending Portugal ?
Mr. Secretary-CANNING answered, that- no spe-
cific proposition, founded upon the papers this even-
ing-presented ter thellotite; was. at' vitsent' intended
by
.his Majesty's Ministers. With respect to the other
subject of which the llonottrahle Gentleman gave
notice, he must. of course. be arliberty tour& his own
discretidft. Attd with regard to the production of
the secret treaty with-Portugal,,thete was one objec-
tion to it did 10ue,.• ;which lie thoughtinsistinoulit-
able • nanielyw dant there was-an article in it stipula-
ting ihat.the subject should. fie kept-secret, and not
be disclosed bur by-the mutual consent of both Go-
vernments. It was nOrdittnedexpedient at present
to-lay before the lil.ouse Lord Rosslyn's dispatches.
Mr.-.WHITIARBAD replied,.that he could. not
see any had' consequence likelk.to.arise frOin a Ws-
closure.of the terms of the. treaty now that the Court
of Portugal• was ttonn to the' Brandi.
M. Secretary ..NNlNGtepeatectrdiathowever
ftnimportant the terms of the treaty might or might
not have been rendered by-the departure of the Por-
tuguese Governments, the stipulation-of secrecy was
still a bar to the disclosure.
ORDERS OF COUNCIL.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
presented'to the House Copies of his Majesty's late
Orderain.Councii respecting the ships of neutral na-
tions, in consequence of the tyrannical Edicts of the
h' h: (;o 'to be printed.
Lord HENRY PETTY wished to know from the
Right Hon. Gentlesnan, what course his Majesty's
Ministers wished.tisidept respecting those orders ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
had no objection to explain. It was his purpose that,
after those papers should be printed, they should re-
main in the hands of Gentlemen long enough to con-
sider their nature, tendency, and importance ' • and
then he should name a day on which he should have
the honour. to propose them. for the deliberation and;
decision'of the-House, in the form of Resolutions, in-
a Committee-of Ways and Means.
Lord HENRY PETTY thought the . subject of:
too much- general importance to be considered in a
mere financial view, and in a.Committee' of Ways.
..and Means. The Right Hon. Gentleman should be.
aware that there were strong objections tathose orders.
.on the ground of legality, which could not be so well
discussed in a Committee of Ways and Means.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
had no objection to any mode of discussion that should
seem most expedient to the House—and, therefore,
on the day upon which he should have the honour of
submitting his propositions for consideration, it would
be competent for the Noble Lord, or any -other Mem-
ber, to. take the debate either u,pon the motion for
leaving the Chair to go into Committee,. or in the
Commiltet The choice was to himself quite in-
different, but'if left to his own course, he should take
the Committee ; as it would:afford him more frequent
-opportunities of answering objections, and explaining
more fully updft a subject-of so much importance—
On the grnund'of legality, he was fully aware that
many of the regulations proposed in those orders
could not be carried into effect without the sanction
Of Parliament.; arictas those points were of a finan-
cial nature, he thought they would most properly be
'pFOgosecras resolutions in a Cimunittee of Ways and
Means, and afterwards adopted,. if approved, in an
Act or Parliament. He was also aware that licence"'
had been gratitedlosome merchants, under the pres-
sure.ofexistins.circumstances, to land and warehouse
certain goods in-the country,. which.ther could not in'
the present state of European commerce export.' and
-that such licences as were not warranted by law, ee..
quired the sanction of a Bill of Indemnity, for which:
it was intended'to apply to Parliament. But as he
should propose Wednesday next for going- into the
Committee of Ways and Means, it would, in hie
apprehension, be'. better to await' the full discussion
then, than :anticipate- it lay, premature conversations.
If Wednesday should.bnAhonght by Gentlemen. toot
eddy, he shonlctlave.mrobjection..to defer the busi-
ness, until. the. Friday followin- •
Dr, I4AWRENCE thou t, the- *subject• of. too
much magnitude to be discussed under the: form= of
Financial Resolutions in a Committee of Ways and
Means. There were many points in the Orders