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00t/Sli OF LORDS, Tftuasoav, Justa 27.
ott,the'motion ,of tiie Earl of Suarre'sgoeYs
the stone- Bottle Duty Bill was ordered to be read
et second time that -day three months.
EXCHEQUARS' CONSOLIDATION BILL
Their Lordships having resolved Into a Cot&
Imittee,on this Bill, and the question for agreeing
to, the Vtee-Treasurer's Clause being put,
• Saii•GeosVaissie said, he had partictdarly to
object to. this clause, though all the prominent
clauses Alitotighout the Bill strongly 'narked 4
deviation float those professions of econbiiiy bn -
the part Of Ministers, which 'they had Viard so
'much of. He censured the appointMent of a
Vice-Treasurer for Ireland, even with a salary of
2001. a-year. -This office, as they learned froth
the 'votes of the other Hmise of Parliament, had
been originally proposed with the profuse salary
of -35001„ and which, with a deputy at 10061. a.
year,'Utatletheetiormous total of 450131. per en•
aunt, mnreessarily taken, in times like these, out
of the politic purse. - This was not all there
, were two junior Lords of ,the Treasury to be ap-
pointed, who had little Mote to do than to swell
the Noble Lord's, train. to the total inutility
of the Vice-Treasurer's Officer though it appeared
Ile had little more to do than to comitersiAu the
Treasury warrants, which many respectable per•
sons could be got to do for a few hundreds a-year,
though he thought the appointment in itself tin-
necessary, he. feared he should fail in persuading
their Lordships to concur with hint in that opi-
nion ; but he deemed the proposed salary so glar=
ingly objectionable, that instead of the *tints
" 20001." •he should move to insert the words
" 15001.'.' a year. On the question,
The Earl of LIVERPO)OI. rose, and observed,
the measure before the Committee was one of the
• most important description. It naturally arose
oat of the Union with Ireland ; but, certainly,.
front the course and combination of circumstances,
rendered necessary sonic time sooner than was at
first calculated upon. The object was to consoli.
date the Treasuries of the Two ; and ors ,
far as the consideration of economy applied, it was
strictly a meaure of that description, As it actually
went to abolish eight offices, while it . revived
three ; it therefore went to abolish rive NOM:"
HICIItarV places ; arid he would leave it to their
Lordships to decide whether or not the Bill was
calculated to extend Alluiiterial inettetice.(flenri
bear!)—ln the case of the Union with Scotland, it
, was stipulated that certain Officers of itkte should
be kept up in that-country. In the Irish Union
no such stipulation Was made : It was certainly
proper object cif con,titittional Jealousy, to a cer‘
tail) extent 'what number of Officer's Shouid be allow!
' eel o sit in Parliament -; and in the latter case it was
decided, that, t)ie Crown should have thepmhr of
appointing not more than twenty officers of that
'country to fit in Parliament ; he meant in the
'louse of Commons. ~,. After the passing of this
however, there would he only seven persons
in that House vested'with offices of patronage in
that part of the United Empire. As to the idea
'started by the Noble Earl, that the duties of Such
an office as that in question, may be performed
for a few hundred pounds a year, lie did not It tio4
Where the principal of such a• diiniuction May
stop. As well might the Noble Lord say, that
the ditties of the Secretaries of State in this coun-
try might be executed by their under Secretaries 4
He might push the principal still further, and so
as to include every office Of rank or patronage itt
the State : too many of these in Parliament would
be a fair ground for constitutional jealousy ; but
a reasonable number of offices among the Legis.
lature was, even in a constitutional point of view,
highly desirable. it was proper too there blnitild
he offices in 'the country of a nature to become
the fair objects of anibition among Gentle.
men of , a liberal eclitcation, and of a respect-
able rank in life. The question was, whether the
present measure, in that point of view, was a wee-,
sure of profusion and increased patronage, or
not ? By it the office of Chancellor orthe Exche-
quer in Ireland, an office of high rank and emu..
lament, was abolished; as well as thV Treasury
establishment. It could not, therefore, be sup‘
posed too much to appoint twh junior Lords of
the Treasury, to sit at that Board, Where the
whole business in future Was to be transacted.
He protested solemnly that be really thought the
objection's to this arrangement would Conic front
another ituartero and won't! be of another descrip-
tion, namely, that Ireland had a fair claim to her
proportion of offices of high situation in the Em-
pire, and that this Bill left her with too small a
proportion of these offices, and especially com-
pared to that she possessed before the Union, and
lie believed their Lordships would not be loug its
deciding, whether or not this Bill attached en on.,
fail• proportion of influence and patronage to the
Crown, either with respect to this country or to
Ireland. He certainly felt It his duty to oppose
the Noble Karl's amendment.

The question was then pia, and Earl Grosve-
ntir's Amendment was ttegativvti without a di-
vision.

titltinos*Etcoa then objected to the appoint.
theut of a Deputy in the Vice-Treafitrer, but
hiay on the ground of the salary being an untie•
cessary addition to the public expences. tie te.
vented his observations respecting a departure of
his Majesty's Ministers from those principles of
economy which they professed so loudly, and in-
sisted the proposed payment of the 'Vice-Trensti.,
ret's Deputy out of the public purse %V VI 11, own i i
Instance. So strongly did he feel the impropriety
of such a ptoposic ion in the present y*1441,010 !lilt'
ImPoverished state of the country, that he shirinhf
Move an Amendment, " That the person acting
as the said Deputy should be paid by the Vice.

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