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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS.-(LAST NIGHT.)

The Royal Assent was given to-day by Commis-
sion to the Life Annuities Bill, Silk Duties Bill,
Greenwich Hospital Regulation Bill, West India
Dock Company's Improvement Bill, St. Paul's
Covent-garden Vestry Bill, together with upwards
of 30 private Bills.
Tic Lords Commissioners were the LORD CHAN-
CELLOR, the Earl Of SHAFTESBURY, and Viscount
MELVILLE.
MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS.

Sir Alexander Grant, Lord Morpeth, Mr. C.Bar-
clay, Mr. Green, Sir R. Phillips, Sir W. Heathcote,
and Mr Spottiswoode, brought up the Disembodied
(Ireland) Militia Bill, Irish Yeomanry Corps, Irish
Coroners, and Irish Mesre Process Bills, St. Sa-
viour's Market Bill, the Dalkeith Railway, and se-
veral private Bills.
Mr. Tomlin, from the Treasury, brought up an
account of the Exportation and Importation of
Corn.

The Chamberlain of the City of London brought
up an account relative to London Bridge.

CITY OF LONDON PETITION.

Lord MELVILLE rose for the purpose of
presenting a petition from the Lord Mayor and
Common Council of the City of London, praying
their Lordships to rescind an order made a few
evenings ago, on the motion of Lord Durham, and
requesting permission to state at the Bar, y
Counsel, the reasons why they conside:,d they
could not comply with that ordae. It regarded
the distribution of the private estates of the
City. 'the Noble Lord considered this such an
order as the House were not in the habit of making,
and what could be the object of the Noble Lord
who applied for it he did cot know. He could not
go so far as to think of getting the House to rescind
the order forthwith. Thegreuter part of the accounts
embraced in that order were already before the
House, and the question would be, whether suffi-
cient grounds had been steed to justify the House
in making such an order. He thought the Noble
Lord premature in calling for it. He should there-
fore move that the petition he now presented be
taken into consideration on Tuesilay next.
Lord DURHAM had a right to assume that the
grounds he had laid before the House for. the pro-
d_ coon papers were sufficient, as they had met
with their approbation, The question now was' whether
sufficient grounds had been stated to shew that
their Lordships ought to abandon the privilege
which they now possessed. The ordiu: complained of
was in consequence of an application by the City of
London, declaring their funds were insufficient
ro enable them to complete London Bridge, and
asking for a grant.of a million of money. This %vas,
stated in the
,preamble of their Bill, He (Lora;
Durham)_ considered that lie had a right to ask
for accounts, showing that. thei,r funds were
insufficient for dto iplrp,•;n, lie did not believe
they wmt pnydege of th Hclose was at
stage. If their Lordships submitted to be thtis
bearded by Aldermen of London, they would never
be able to gat that Information which was absolutely
necessary, and which their Lordshipa 444 a right
to hare. In the Act obtaino b tht eorporatio iu

the time of Georze L they Ftated their funds were
insufficient. Their papers were called for then, and
.why, he 4rou;(1. ask,. could grit the House• ettil for
Mein now? The City of London wi,lied to retain
their own funds, perhapt purpo- e 0: 1,..-
pitality, or something else.—( They w
rather lay out the inailoy (iii,erS that: ;Init
Could it be said, lie would “sli, that there NV an;
power superio:- tot hat which theirLordshiw ext
sitting in l'arli:ancnt. ‘vaq not the person
first broke the ground. The city of London ie le is
it was who came to Parliament, asking for' a ‘
of money; and professing to be iri a state of hank-
ruptcy,lf they were
.really in such a state, let it
be .sheWi. -The'Noble Lord concluded by .movin„o-
as an amendment to -Lord Melville's mutton, that
Counsel on the part of the City of London be heard
at the Bar, against this order, on Monday next.

Lord ELLENBOROUGH—There can be no
doubt, my Lords that the Committee which would
sit on this. Bill cannot proceed to report thereon
without having the fullest information on the subject
connected with the pioceedings mentioned in tlits
preamble of the Bill. If the Corporation of the
City of London do not prove the preamble of the
Bill, they will undoubted!? lose the Bill—(I1,ar,
hear)—therefore it is to their advantage to furni-it
evidence for that purpose. The question, however,
now is, whether your Lordships will hear this pe-
tition on Monday or Tuesday ? Although the
Bill in reality relates to a tax—(Hear)---yet, techni-
cally speaking, it is a private Bill. Now, it being a
private Bill, you must treat it as you do other private
Bills. The speech of the Noble Baron oppo,lie
might have been a very proper one, had we 110,1'
heard Counsel-at tte bar. I beg to say one .
respecting what the Noble Baron has been pleased
to say of the bankruptcy of the City of London. I
apprehend that the words in the preamble oi;ly ap-
ply to the Bridge I-louse Eqa;es, as not being suf-
ficient to complete the undertaking, and not in the
general sense which he has taken. There -is not
one word in the Bill about the general funds of the
Corporation, but only reference to the particular
estates which I have named. • . •

IGRofEYm,
AtilLme
allof tlo.soeN;D—ONt
eE R
two
ja:s; and
the Earl
named Noble Lords gave place to
Earl GREY, who said, whether the speech of my
Noble Friend (Lord Durham) near me is properly
a speech more adapted after counsel had been heard
at your Lordships' bar, or not, us the Noble Lord
who spoke last has stated, I will not determine; but
this I will say, that :he speech now made by the
Noble Lord would have been more proper hail it
been delivered when the original motion for the pro-
duction of the papers was made by my Noble Friend.
This is not a question that we arc now discussi,v
for the production of papers, but whether we shall
exercise the privilege we possess, and call upon the
City of London to furnish the paper:, :n conformit y
to the motion which has been aiteady made. This
is a question, my Lords, of privilege.—(Hear.)—
My Noble Friend was right in the course he took in
moving for the documents, if he thought somethiu4
improper was going forward. 'What is more com-
mon, my Lords, than Noble Lords, who take an in-
terest in a Bill, to move for papers before going into
a Committee ? The question, as I before stated, in-
volves the privileges of the House. The motion for
the production of those papers I think was very right.
It would have been wrong had there been no proceed-
ing of the Corporation before the House.—(llear.)
But when they come before us, and ask a tax upon
coals—and that no light one—which is to continue
for 21 years, and when they put forward a state-
ment that they are not in a condition to enable
them to complete an undettal,ing (whicn their OMI
funds ought to supply), as a reason for asking that
t ax
is when,
Pt
otnu satsiccehr an t
n allegation‘lt t at
sr
uteh iss;at 0 informa-
tion
the
case is, surely, my Lord:, they have a right to
satisfy us, and show that they are not in possi
sion of sufficient funds. When the Noble Lo;d
states that this is a subject of a private Bill, I beg to
say that it is one which seeks to impose a tax, not a
general one, but a particular tax, to apply to a /im-
pose for which the funds of the Corporation of Lon-
don ought to be applied, if funds they have. I
therefore think that the course taken by my Noble
Friend is the right course. We ought, I think„ my
LordS, to proceed to decide this at the earliest conve-
nience of the House, without waiting far the Com-
mittee. Nothing is more established in your Lorl-
ships'_ proceedings titan this principle--viz., that in
all questions of privilege we should proceed upon
them as early as possible.—(llear, bear.)—We lucre
a power of proceeding on the merits of tile ease im-
mediately, but when the petitioners conic and ask
to he heard against the order, I have no objectiwi,
for' one, to waive that right of speedy determination.
But, instead of Tuesday, I should suggest Monday,
the day named by my Noble Friend.

Lord GODEWII concurred in the propriety of
regarding this as affecting the privilege of the House.
In his opinion the City ought to produce their ac-
counts.

Lord MELVILLE did not suppose that the City
could be prepared to appear by their Counsel so
soon as Monday evening.
Lord LAUDERDALE considered it absurd n,n4l
insulting on the pert of the City, for thew to have
come to the House to. be heard by Cotnisel,
out at that moment being fully prepred. He ‘t.,s
not all satisfied that they ought to be heard by
Counsel; but at any rate the dignity of the House
required that the hearing should take place at the
earliest period, and that no Committee should be
permitted to dispose of this question.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY only vo,,
to offer a single observation. A circumstao," i;„(1
come to his knowledge with which he.thtvaght tlwir.
Lordships ought to be made acquar.,ted. Whe
in a Committee-room above wiirs, the No
Baron opposite gave the Noble Duke at the head of
the Majesty's Government a copy of. the motion for
the production of the papers, and a.ked the
Duke whether there would be any object:." PH the
part of his Majesty's Ministers to t).:e production of
the documents. The Noble
Duke signified his
assent to the motion; the
notion was also put itco
fat
o ‘‘e and Learned Lord on the
and, it had been improperly worded,
he rsohis:
(theattcd.
ks
,_able
the No ''‘e s
conceived that it would
have .'oeen noticed. The motion, however, havin
peen
ought g
made, he thought that the dignity of tho House
preserved, acid that the order should not
be rescinded.
a;
to e

The Duke of WELLINGTON—My Lords, it, is
perfectly true, as has been stated, that I did see the
paper containing the minion which the Noble Baron
made. It is true that I (lid see the words of the
motion before it was put from the Woolsack,-. If
the Noble Baron had done me the honour to com-
municate with me before I came to the House, and
had given me an opportunity of considering the
motion, if I had had time to inquire into the sub.
ject, I think, in all probability, your Lordships
would have been spared all this trouble. When I
read the paper I own it (lid appear to me that thr,t
Would be no objection to the production of the, do-
cuments. Beggieg pardon of the House, I ,:gia sny
that there was no objection on my part, r,oi• on the
pint of Government, to the motion, but had con-
sidered the .abject, I cei tainly shout ;t have con-
sented. But the papers havinCleen culled fur, and
the city of London hay.'nfg represented that
it is not the practice (q,4roduce such documents,
and having sent tt petijon praying to -be heard
by Counsel az4i,a.st the produt-tion, which has been
presented 4 the Noble Viscount' near me, who. has
moxeki that the petition be taken into consideration
Tuesday, to which motion an amendment b 45
been proposed by the Noble Baronet to procee,',„ai,d
hear Caansel on Monday, it is for your Lordships
to determine which mode you' will ajlopt.A"
my Lords, that the regular way w°,4l be, if you
defer the subject, that the petitio-scihould be taken
1,4'
into consideration on a future ( 3;. I believe that is
the usual mode of proceed:..„4;. T
am not much prac-
tised in the proceedio:p .of thin House on such sub-
_
jeets, hut I belie ;e that Counsel Ninnot be beard
concerning a,practice of the House, or its prilikges.