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rixaminecz :ay • LORD DAILLINTON.

Q. I wish to call the recollection of the witness
to the circumstance of Bergami, Camera, and Ma-
jocci, taking leave of the. Princess previous to
their going on shore at Terracina. He states
that when they took leave, each of them ki§sed
the Princes:'s hand; I beg leave to ask whether
he knows that Bergarni did or did not take leave
of her Royal Highness befure he catne upon
deck?—A. I do not know that he did.

Did you see those three persons come upon
deck, together ?—I think we were all upon► deck
together ; Bergami, Camera, and Majocci ; every
body was on deck.
Did the Princess come on deck when you Were
all there ?—.l do not recollect that the Princess
remained below.

Did you ever see Bergami take leave of the
Princess in a different manner from the two other
persons,?-,--1, have seen him take leave .more than
once, and have never seen him do more than kiss
her hand as others did.

When you mention her, Royal,Highness sleep-
ing in the tent, I apprehend you mean by the use
of the word slept, rather: that she reposed, than
sleeping, in the general acceptation of., the word.
I wish to know, whether you meant that she re-
posed with her clothes on ?—I do not believe she
ever took her clothes off on board the polacca,
except for the purpose of changing her dress, that,
is my firm belief; I mean she did not take them
off during the voyage from Jaffa, for in the voy-
age out, her Royal Highness always slept in the
cabin.

Mr. BROUGHAM, upon Mr. Gurney concluding'
the reading of this answer, said, that three or four
words had been left out by the short-hand writer.
He did not mean to say intentionally, but four
words had been left out which he considered ex-
tremely important. They were these, "to my
firm belief."
, Lord ENNISKILLEN said these words had ger..
taißly been used;
Mr. Gurney, said he had taken down all he
heard. The witness bad turned his head. away,
and thus he• lost his last words.
Examination resumed.

Q. You stated that you di4 not seeßergam

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under thetent at night, but that you belieired he
sl9pt there.; now, I- ask, if you- believe_he re-
.posed on the
.other bed in the same manner as
her Royal Highness did on the sofa; or if he
took off
,his clothes and went to sleep in the ge,
ueral
acceptation of. the term ?
The LOan CHANCELLOR said it was quiteirre-
gular to.ask a witness as to his belief ; this would
lead to suppositinn, and it was very easy to pass
from supposition to. imaginatioo.
,D 9 you know yrhether Bergami slePt or only
reposed on the-other bed--do yod know whether

he took oil His Oodles do not think he took
off his clot o.S 'for f never saw any bed 'Clothes
on. the
_l)k:it :where he, was.

Where dc( her Royal Highness change her
clothes ou the voyage from Jaffa ?—I believe in
the cabin; I never saw her change her clothes o❑
deck.

Did you ever see- her• change her clothes any
where ?—No.
Did you ever see Mahomet perform a dance at
the Villa &Este ;, Yes; -I was in her Royal
Highness's room, having something to do, and
heard a noise, in the.
,court-yard, and looked
through the Window and saw him dancing.
Where was Majocci at the time ?—I do not
know ; all the servants were about the court-
yard.
Was any other person in her Royal Highness's
room besides yourself ?—I think not.
Did you think that there was any indecency
in the'dance you mention ?—Not in the least. -
When did you see Capt. ;Briggs before you
were examined here ?—Two months ago, at
Portsmouth.
Did any conversation, pass between you on the
subject of this inquiry ?—No. Capt. Briggs de-
clined entering into any conversation on the sub-
ject.
And you .have never had any conversation on
this subject, to the best of your recollection, with
Captain Briggs, since you were on board the Le-
viathan ?—Never. I have only seen Captain
Briggs twice—once at Portsmouth, and once in
this House.
If you had any conversation with him, should
you have recollected it ?—I think I should.
Examiped by :Lord ELLENTIOnOUGII.
. Q. You say Captain, Briggs deClined entering
into any Conversation upon this inquiry—did you
propose any such conversation The object
of my going to Portsmouth.was to inform myself.
What was your reason fOr wishing to converse
with Captain *Briggs heard Captain Briggs
was coming as a witnesaagainst the-Queen. I did
not believe it, and went to ascertain- the fact.
What, in point of fact, did 'you ask Captain
Briggs ?—I asked him if he was coming as a wit-
. ness against the Queen.
What was his answer ?—lle said he thought he
might be called,—that he was afraid he should ;
but-that his. .testimony should be nothing but
what was honourable and just.
Was that: the whole
.of Captain Briggs' an-
sw.er ?----I think it was ; I do not recollect any
thing more. •
In that, answ:er. Captain Briggs does not appear
to have declined entering into conversation on the
subject ?—Captain-Briggs told me he could not
enter into any conversation on the subject:
Did you ask Captain Briggs to enter into any
further conversation .?—I did not press Captain
Briggs ; he said he was coming, and so forth.

Diciyou see Captain Briggs on the day he vas
examined in this House ?-2Yes.

Were you present during his examination ?-4
was not.

Had you any conversation with him at that
me ?--..None but a few words—he shook my

Land over the bannist6r, and he_ said he hoped we

should. shake hands when he came out. -
Was that the whole of the conversation ?

Witk the exception of ". How do you dd."
Did you ever see .the tent closed on the voy-
age from Jaffa during the day ?—t recollect see-
ing her Royal highness asleep during- the day,
and myeelf closing the tent to protect her from
the sun and so forth.

Were those the only occasions on which you
saw the tent closed during the day time ?—I do
not recollect ever to have seen it closed except
on such occasions'in the day time.
How frequently have you seen it closed in the
course of a week ?—I do not recollect ; it may
have happened once ortidce ; I have no perfect
recollection.

When the tent was so closed, was any- person
in the tent besides'her Royal :Highness ?—I can
positively say, I never recollect to have seen any
person ,under the tent 'litither Royal Highness
%when it was so closed.

Did you ever go into the dining-room durin,g-
the day when it was so closed ?—I do not re-
collect►

At what hour were you in the habit of leaving
the Alining-room during the evenibg ?—At eight
or nine o'clock, or half-past nine.
At what hour were you in the habit of return-
ing. Fto the dining-room, in the morning ?—We
breakfasted about ten.

Have you any personal knowledge, that during
that period the hatch communicating with the
tent ow deck was kept open ?-only from seeing
it open. I have a thorough conviction it was
never shut.
What -was the supper time ?--No specific time
was fixed; about nine or ten o'clock.

What was the latest hour, you ever passed
through the dining-room to go upon deck ?
About ten er half-past ten.
W hat was the latest hour of going on deck ?
I cannot say exactly.
Did you ever enter the dining-room, after the
tent was closed ?—I never went into the dining-
room after the tent was closed.
Then between nine in the morning and ten
o'clock'at night, you had no opportunity of know-
ing whether the, hatchway was closed or shut ?
I was in bed and asleep at the time, but r be-
lieve it was always open at night.
When • you said yesterday, that you thought

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there was nothing improperin Beiganli's sleeping
under the tent with her Royal Highness with the
hatchways open, you then were assuming a fact
of which you had no personal knoWledge ?
Question objected to.
Doyou know the hatchway was always open •
_

I have always seen the' doors of the dining-room
open, and as I have stated before, Iran 'up in a
late hour and found it open, and I never knew it
to be shut at all.
Could not the hatching have been opened
with-Out the ladder being removed?----To have
closed the hatching, the tent must have' been re-
moved; the tent was over the hatches.
Did you ever see the hatches under the tent ?
—N ever.
Who slept in the dining-room on the voyage
to Syracuse ?—I do not know, I have seen a bed
there rolled up in the day time, but do not knoW
who slept there.
Where did Majocci sleep ?—ln the hold, I be-
lieve-

Did Maur-ice Crede continue in the service of
her Royaffligliness after he -was upon.his knees?
—lie continued from the beginning of Novem-
ber, when this circumstance occurred, till the
,March following. _
Why did he leave the service ?---lie was sent as
courier to the Margravine, the aunt of the
Princess.
Was the ten closed during the time-by the or-
der of Count Schiavani don't know.
Was it completely closed during the day-
time can't say.
Wilt you take upon yourself to say, that a
person who swore that it. was! so closed would
swear a falsehood cannot answer for any

one else.
Lord GREY.—Did ydu ever see it so closed
during the, day, that any one passing might see
distinctly what was within ?—No, I did not.
The Marquis of Wimrsiiiat.—Are you quite
sure that the hatches were beheath the tent ?
To my knowledge they were not beneath the
tent.

Do you mean that they were not beneath the
tent, or that you had no knowledge of their be-
ing so ?—I 'had no knowledge of their being so.
Lord AUCKLAND.-Did you write your own
challenge to the Baton Ompteda ?—I did.
Was it in your own composition ?—lt was.

Do you understand French ?—lt was written
in English.
Did you make aby copies of it, did you give
copies to any one ?—I took no copies.
Lord MANsFiErA.--Was there a companion to
the hatches ?—There was not.
Then there was no protection to them ?--There
was not.
Were the rest of the suite in the habit of
using the hatchway. in the day time ?—They
were.

Lord Gno3VENOR.—If her Royal 'Highness
had done any thing so outrageously indecent as
to be seen by the master and mate of the vessel,
kissing and embracing Bergarni, would it 'not
have been matter of conversation on board ?
The questioti was generally objected to. .
Lord GROSVENOR.—As matter of belief was
received from the witness, as to Bergawi sleep-
ing in the bed, he could not see why he should
not state his belief on this point also.
Lord LIVERPOOL said, that the witness might
have a variety of reasons for his belief of a fact
having occurred, but this was merely as to what
conversation passed among the crew.
Lord GROSVENOR said, such questions had

been put on the other side. He then put the
following question
Could such a thing have occurred with°3t
coming to your ears ?
The LORD CIIANCELLOR thought the question
could not be put. a
Lord SoAtts.—You have -sttheti that you arced
a long while with the Princess, and that it vies
t
your opinion that the :kindness shewn by- hit,
Royal Highness to Bergami's family arose fro
proper motives ; now, as the little child, the
mother, the sister the brother, and the other 0"
latives of Bergami were introduced into the fa;
mily, can you give any reasons Why his wife,
the natural nurse of the child, was not lutt°-•
duced
The Lone CHANCELLOR said, it was for the
witnesses to state facts, and for their LordshiPi
to reason on those facts ;'therefore such questialif
were improper.
Mr. BROUGHAR.—There is no evidence thlt
that child was the daughter of Bergami's wife' e
Did not her Royal Highness, on the voY.'g
from Syracuse, express great impatience to g,t
on shore, as her legs, were very
.much swellel;
in consequence of her not having been ill be
during the voyage ?—I remember that she dikl.,s
Do you know that her Royal Highness's le,
were swelled ?—I never saw her Royal Iligb'

ness's legs.
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Lord LAUDERDALE.—Do you mean to say -411
her Royal Highness told you her legs *1
swelled ?---Yes, she did ; and she complained
the long time she had been on board, tie4r Oft'
days, and of her excessive fatigue. She said ber
legs were excessively swelled.
Have you read the evidence in the newsprelf
given in this case ?—I have not read the evidefict
which I have given myself.
Have you read Dumont's ?—Yes.

And Majocci's ?—Yes.
And Sacchi's ?—Part of it. not all. to
Did any person point out the part for you, it
read in the evidence of Sacchi ?—No, react
as any one else would read.
By whom were such passages selected for

to 'read ?
Mr. BR:IiIa:HAM here interfered—The witneo'f
interfered— The
had stated. that he read a part of the evidence "j
Sacchi, that he did not say that he' iad selecte

that part. t of $
The Marquess of LANSDOVN —I have read a lot :id,
newspaper this morning, but I am sure it. will nut be 43
that I, therefore. selected that part.—(A laugh.;
Earl GREY fully agreed with the Marquise of Lantall,
aruE the Earl of Lauderdale at length consented to ab3l'
this line of cross-examination.
Lord LAUDERDALE.,—Are-you a Knight of the Ord'r°
St. Caroline ?—1 ant.

Have you a diploma as such ?—Yes.
Can you produce it ?—I can.
You said you arrived at Trieste at noon, and you qflit'' ore
next evening between six and seven said between
and six.
Does your recollection lead yon to that fact, or does fore
depend upon the letter you received from your wife ?---13t
I had found the letter my recollection convinced me that
was there only about twenty-four
Did her Royal Highness send for some money at Trieste
I do not lsnw, she might have sent to a -baiiker. I, V
• Yott haveo said at Bellen Zona Bergatni first dined w't
t,,
Royal Highness; did be come into the room with her
Highness, or after ?—Afterwards, and her Royal Hig".

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asked him to sit down. • . ,
reell''
Did he sit next to her _on .that .ihat occasion :—I don't re
bee that.
po you mean to say that you dii't remember • whtthrr I'4
sat next to her or not ?—I do certainly. ._ • 1 Ihe
Did she sneak to him at dinner ?—Sln•Ntntke to bin'
Here, but nothing in particular that f reeallect.
Did you speak t o bun ?—Nu, I,' ttliik ' l did mut, but I °
DM certain. . • - ' -. ' ''• ' ht
Rd
Did you ever sec Bergami's wife t'llfelable of her -
Highness ?—I told yam I neve'e,sati-lii:r at all, , per:
Were Volt ever at Villa sf',E,tq'Oi•Tilla Bergami Wi1':,,,,• '
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gami, when her Royal, HiginiesS .iya not- 'there ?---;•1 ,tits
think I was at the Baruua -With' him when the Princes'
not there. ; Jiej
Has not Bergami waited at table when you have „Lel
'with her Royal Highnesi ?—Yes; bat • not after her P
Highness left Genoa. 10'4
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Has Louis-Betgami also Wailed 'it; table vflren 1141 . ,
dined ?—Yes. ' -'• ' • tir
. Did you see Bergami, Louis Itergiiini; 'the Countesgitte
sister, his mother, and his neplieWs; at. her It or o i reit'
ness's table ?—I never saw 'the nephews t I have seen thence'
Have you seen Bergamei wife there'?-4 sever sa't'
ga
Recollecting m
wife in
ouy lh ai.
y feve dined at her Royal highness,, tai
, too'
whets Bergami has waited, and also that youLhave swor';.,,iol4 '
Bergami, to the best of your belief, slept under the ter' , 00'
het-Royal Highness from Syracusecri Cart Lanza, do Y"et'citllt;
mean to tav that her. Royal Highness's conduct was tieripo to
proper, indecorous, or indecent ?—t had no greater el'/ iiils4
sit at her table than Bergami an'd his brother had•
shli,
seen persons sitting at her ?soya! Iliginress's tahlewrit'l
fathers have waited at her table ; and 'Wowing the il9l
way her Royal Highness treated every p'6-son in her ("Itiet
will yenta, e to say, that I never saw any conduct of lo"r. pi
'
Highness that was at all improper or indecorous, nor ',° a, ,
conceive that Bergami's I;eiti under the tent could ble
,to -
glued into filly thing criminal. file' ft
Lord LAUDERDALE requested the• short-bawl sr ilsi,
read some of the evidence given by the witness Ye't.`; It
where the witness swears that a Dr. Mocatti dined sr' ,
Royal Highness. V
Who is Dr. Mocatti ?-1-le is a Doctor of Physic at tb° • ,
Ill",
lege at Como. He -practises also at' Como. •
. Who is the Chevalier Cavaletti ?
Viceroy of Italy, and was its BonaparteH'ses'iviiatse at
Waterloo. ;,;I°'
Was he often in her Rciyal Highness's ptesenee '
2/
frequently. .2 nces'
Besides Mocatti' and Cayaletti, who were at the ua
• ,er
I do not recollect any other name.road
i
Do you think a Courier and a Lieutenant of the ogag to
equally entitled ta sit ist hes Majesty's tablevithlio,
would authorise persons of a higher rank to sit doWn 2arailif',
The Duke of CLARENCE.— l'he witness, in his eloiecief•
tion of yesterday, entered into a minute statement °, is fstil.,,
cuatstances of his father, I wish to hisow whether ',lot vin
was ever in the service of any other prism% than the l'',o ,e3sa
mils, ?—I can only, speak fruits report ; I believe l'' e 5,,
the service of Lady Charlotte Finch, of , her late ° ~,I
Household. enthlf
The wittiest then stated that her Royal Highness, tiler f,
at Sicily to go to the Levant, does he know wile I‘jeAs
Royal Highness had its her suite, except himself',:i o,'"
Flynn, any body who was used to the sea ?-1 kilo' u csi
except one English sailor. her itifP
• Did the witness know front the beginning that at •: ill
Highness slept in the tent on leek?—Yes; she bega.u,tcfLi;io
Am Ito understand that from the first night she?- ,a,
the tent he was fully aware of that circumstaneahe
aware of it as far as I could be without actually see ' dicl:
the sofa. . , l P c
The witness being-aware that no one of ber 115011:le!:tt°
ness's suite was used to the sea,. except himself 'attn.
d
rant Flynn, did he not offer to afford his assists did o°,ol
sleep under the tent with her Royal Highness' ?--„calao°
You have stated itl evidence that the English : 440
discharged, where was be discharged?—At Atheit;.....9a 1),),,i
How long had-be been On hoard the 1,013(70.'0, or
wish to know how lOng he had beau in the 'Via'
long-he had been in her Royal Highness's suite.
inn'
frl
• In her suite ?—About two months.
•, 1)o you know for what reasoshe was dischargetlL-;001';,4(
sequence of a quarrel, and I believe -a fight w'
,e ?--3 t
Was there nu other lesson fur his discbarb ,eo,
•.- the 'l'
heard of any. 4 yhen , it' p
Lord cr.ILTHOHPE.—Do you recollect s's
_,, ~ as recoj
Was partially closed, and her Royal Highness
..";,:cer..o to
you remember, of having wren Bergin's; ?---4 ~,i„bot,'
lected it being closed except when her !loyal K. r
fallen asleep. . ~.....$O.
Did you ever seesßergami on these occasions'

—so.

You saideer
when the sea broke into the'tent
bu said so. 'you sate nu light),
tie; said
recollect at any time seeing Bergami in a blue man-
No.
aviln‘.iri!ewfl '
ton Saw her Royal Highness looking
through) the
..the Villa d'Este, and saw Mahomet dancing, do
mind ?eiteve that a woman of virtue, or common delicacy of
(tan `et cOuld look upon the dance without diogust ?—The
lero, inns nut more disgusting than the common Spanish bo-
I My opinion.
car, lak You were commissioned be her Royal Highness tO
•Y a Mes •• •,.' • • was.
taiit\vb._ sage to Laptain-Pech-ell of the Cloths( e .
p`" You delivered her Royal Highness's answer to Lop
ti,s,,..eckell, What did you say to him by her Royal Hight-
tite
su'iciosniand ?—I do not remember the exact words, but
tat stance was, that her Royal Highness would keep tier
i„,n tale,
Pa'jjedl3uh recollect whether these instructions were .accon
resp," any. observations Irons her Royal Highness withnot.
1 will° Captain .Pecheli's conduct towards her
Mkt her You said, in a former part of your examination,
di'greeall'lal Highness-treatd all her servants with a great,
kindness and affability ?—Yk . i„
rnakia'w You have felt that that affability justifie.d. you
se,„ anY remonstrance to tier Royal Highness if you . had
tatiou. Y "Proper conduct likely to be:lnjurious her repo-
The LORD CHANCELLOR.—That question cannot be put.
Hessre.co. 'OO arsy occasion when her Royal High!.
'he meanglving directions respecting her route, or the inns
t,iet i• to stop at, suggesting to her any alteration in her
c)
t g es i ri-it) le not recollect any
arranged the route for her Royal Ilighne.ssi
iourssies ) I k •• 1 imagine ber
Nost,„ o not know , , .
Herself.
Iftlel You ever hear of any spies being employed.to watch her
a.ertvHiglirsess's conduct, or do you know whether thtz
tirktyclerdoi:vn knowledge?—Only front the confession f
k.ni,w if the Duchess of Cologna dined with her
bid giiness?—Yes.'
tas, 11.111,4 tin Forti, her nephew, wait at the table ?•-•I never
1/I.o''
Rk„ i was the dress of a courier, by ter-
whlels was worm
11•;1,-.4itaeti and gold. turned lip with scarlet.
,
r.._ gild ;t hossar's dreSs ?—Not exactly.
a rich dress ?—Very handsome. - . if,
11(4 ,r"c iniALARAS--.1 wish to ash if the swell of the sea,
„('4' her ar!ianitily, did ?rot altog
sible ether render female atten .tan
w:.:arieuaisfasuusteYol4,ll;sesell,li)ifgt thlielilietv:eysssienr rhhe;:"llahleereat'iveansdantys
use the terns, as her Royal Highness,
understand, that male attendance ou her Royal
artii-ss ahsolutely and indispensably necessary both
I'e dY
thg.ht ?—For -ny thing that her o Illghne
tiAia i,:to was neces's'ary that a nsale atteßndyaalnt should be
cure it,
411elid i "'re any steward in the vessel Whose duty
T 1 cabin and also in the tent ?—Nont• pal .
Gosportp—After the sea striking the tent,
t.'atc,es closed ?—I thick they were.
that ‘-
w'tness • •mber where the hatches were found.
Care pus lets remember
nut recollect.
*L''re)Y" sdaY wi—ibcd•oy• ever saw the hatches lying anY
liitiv,e..s--sel-aliotiertecorlietc)tuseeing the hatches in any part of
111) 7.„}•Tl ever seen them sit all ?—I haVe.
du not recollect ; on deck.:l were
ihY•liht.lleY iron gvatings, or entirely closed ?-,--I.ley
Pi„
'lt---You stated that the first' time Bergami dined
Heir
) 11,4.41 Highliess's table be was in his coorier's dressi,
-tar swear' that he did not sit stext„to her Royal Iligt
du not recollect
„u:i."._ne swear, that if "lie did, you would not recollect it ?
ht ()_ collect it; I said so before ;if I did I would say
ti~",ee•
"rTORNEY-GENERAL asked the following ques-
W'•""ugh the House
Yon not attended by a Genoese servant of the name.
ec,lr;:;4:iseo. at. Rucanelli ?—I had a servant named Francis-
btt ''e was 'not in servant when I was at Rucanells.
It Y°ll- know wherey he now is ?—No.
111 It,he did you last see him?—in London.
pi, "it house ?—At Mr, Vixard's.
witness was now allowed to withdraw.
'XILLE SHARPE, 'E_sq• was
(4, mined by th en 'sworn. Exa.
Mr. DE.NM AN.
Cite hat situations have you been in k. In
Ll_
ji:ast India service, and in the army.
tL'he You hem) in. the East Indies ?--•yes ; ten years.
.1,11);dv4 did you
ever return ?—Two years ago.
tgttr >u‘ see 0; Moorish dance
tv,i4 • --i• Cs. ,there, called pimar,
1 IV' aat dance accompauied by any sound ?—yes.
_s.
)1„ sounds were they ?—They were cm:kw:tiling sound
Not know what they were' •
a,v„ was there; any thing in this dance indecent, or unfit
Wii-"ntan to see '—Certainly nut.
411 were the hands of the dancers ?—They were thrown
.iut getter • ••1. v the head.
-,,,tsci",etbe knee': ,s",•Liat,owerts there any curtseying ?—yes, the
tii!;)id
the
be throhout th
t"to1! ~ unmeaning sc %Inds eytolaunel_em.ve mentioned form the
44. winch the dancer danced ? Yes ; they sung it to
'l‘,
t-
w
At aeri,;.,laTe you seen it ?--At Calcutta.
Place at' Calcntta ?—At the Governor's House.
IVr the s
Nl tharr e Gucci
presc nor '—Ttit ?he Marquess of Hostiogs.
Y
Aril the NlarellioneSs i—Yea•
Was tlller Ladies ?—Yes.
'
4Alict e „Rlsliop of Calcutta there?—Yes.—(A laugh.)..
17 uj'hoP's Lady ?—Yes, she was,
JS
41"ec'esitt.-ere is nothii • itadeceut in the dance?—Nothing

Ittl• Ar. Cross-examined by Mr. PARIS.
anY other dances danced in the East Indies ?—.A.
Aow n; are quicker, but they are all in the same stylr.
thearnY Persons dance the dance you speak of ?—One.
beitny other dances, at which Lathes are not pre-
'`NT:x "eve not, I never heard of any. •
LUGIANA. sworn.—Examined kti Dr.

, •
~, Q: /.1
-';,tlt4i," von ever been in the. service of her Royal High-
it' :1 ;tril'euss of Wales?—A. 1 have been. .
kh )-- espacit , ) I waS factor.
tl)t ~I.t were the duties you performed in that situation?—acl.
t''utit 441' over the working people, marked down their
a_
v11:1" 41s'i a" Paid them- on 4turdays. I had to take care
qt..
,era',''ibution of the wine in the family, and all other se
A Wl,N"ieli the mast . commanded regarding the house.
ml*:.'t ere
wss it ".
performed these duties ?—At the Villa
I '''
li' the hardens, vineyards, &c.
~,t, ow hill,
~, ens, .
der ' liorti ~• did you continue to perform
. these services ?—I
t 'bat place, a when eighteen
11 , ti'e ortiee of factor years of age, I tin-
t), "111 the mo you in the
'-lr°
v►
g were
tlillilgslihneeslaS it
Plat merit she bought the Villa
1)o 1 e-
,1711‘t(4:,4,.f10w Luigi Galvini ?—I do.
'4l y,;- "e ?-1-le is a mason by trade.
At 1,11.4 ever employ hies ?—Yes.
1-)0 yn:/t, wages per da o livres of Milan per day.
I) '''' hnOW 1- • y.•
rued Bruza ?--; do not. ,
fiathe
you kn_yv, person named lit was " a person named,
kb. . a mason at the Villa, and
'perhaps I might know
Rag.azoni ?—I have heard
bid sight.
bi, 7"1-1 know Paule Raggazoni ?-1 do not. , _
tl'p.i, Y°4 remember ther.e
I:),, Ilu remember the giaitto at the Villa d'Este ..—ar s.
ly,de,)l Adam and Eve ?—Yis, I do.
being then two statues, at the Villa
In ~,`,neY stand in the grotto ?-They had been in tne grotto.
o
`agog,4U4t roots of the grotto?—ln the first rotunda,
s
tw ~s there, ?—Yes, there were
4 ttl anrOther rotunda, or octagon
ik. ore.
tiesltat'asti! c();rlice made in that rotunda, br room where the
,‘, ""d
\Ok'sa or octagon, where the statues stood ?—N,,. ,
~...t°l.::l:;;:eerree any
scaffolding erected, or any work done in that
iiiiere
was.
ny cot nice ntade' in the other octangular room .
1),."' ur bob , I
a 1" Scribe I, - n one alone. . .
~ och ~,.. ile passae-e or communication, from the room in
the e(I 4"e
the statue,, to the other octagon or rotunda where
0..;,, Nice Was pot up' ',-1. Want some paper. 1 I
r)f 1 Ptr was then 4 ; to the witness, and he aieW the 1) an,
tx,,,!e conuoutkati%eNl.hich was shewit to the Counsels
it.4,ed by the tr.! )
itix'e,, Intel
moot
l'irss.•cl that the drawing represented the
'1 t.' rooot where lelteasitatues Were, and t hat in which the
r (~teltio.vas pot up, with the corresponding passage.
:5)11 ' lhe W1,111i111• .1 t work at the cornice in the octagon-
-'.le 1r) 4Y
""Y possibility see the statues tof Adam and Eve in
~iii"tnit where you have- stated they stood ?—No; they
WI, !illt'n
41:1'1. .---eeatise the passage is crooked, and prevents the
I .
t 'l4 .
‘44a4 ~iht ' statues of Adam and Eve ever stand in any other
ht Grotto ?—No, they did nut.

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Was* ctirniCe.made 'to :thy Other. room iu the Grotto than
'that of. which you have spoken, since the Princess came to the
Villa d'Este ?—lt was made in that which I have marked upon
ttle paper.. .
Was one made in any other room or the Grotto ? It was
made in two rooms: in that which I hare stated, and in the
square room inadied.on the paper.
Could you see 11!e statues of Adam snd Eve from either of
those rooms in which a .cornice was made ?

Witness said.he wanted a better explanation.
Do you believe that front the Square Room, or the Ro-
tunda, a person could see the statues of Adam and Eves?--No.
When were the statues removed from that Grotto?—Be-
fore the return of her Royal Highness.
Return from whet e ?—From her journey in Turkey.
To what room were they removed ?—To one of the mosaic
rooms, which wets newly built in the palace.
. Had those mosaic rooms been finished completely before her
Bova! Highness returned from the long voyage ?—They were.
Were the workmen removed front those rooms before she
returned ?—They had been left by all the woi kitten.
And the scaffolding taken away ?--Yes, from the mosaic
rooms. _ .

.....
How long were these removed 'before the Princess's re-
turn?—About eight or ten days before her arrival. '
Were those rooms then lit for her Royal Highness's recep-
tion ?—Yes, t hey .were.
Was the Mo9ic room round ?--Where the statues were the
room was square. -
What was the next room to that where the statues were ?
The second was a long small oblong cabinet.
NVhat was the room beyond the oblong cabinet ?—An oc-
tagon room, or round room with columns.

Could any one in that octagon room see the statues of
Adam and Eve ?—They could not, because they were by the
side of the opening.
Cross-examined by Mr. l'Anx
limy long were you in the service of her Royal Highness ?
—From the day she bought the Villa► till slit left. I was born
at iha Villa d'Este.

_ •
IVcre the statues of Adam and Eve in the grotto when you
entered into the service of her Itcyal Highness ?—They were.
In the room yon have described ?—Yes.
In the largest room in the grotto ?--ln the first octagon
room.

VT
That is no answer : were they in the largest room in the
grotto will not say the largest, because the square rooms
are somewhat greater than the others. The exact dimensions

I do not hoow.
How many rooms were there in the grotto ?—Six, com-
prizing the•round.and square rooms.
Were they all on the same story ?—'They were not.
Were they one above another ?—First there are some mar-
ble stairs, then comes a level, then more stairs, and another
level. In some places the stepS were few, and in others many.
How, high was one part of the grotto above the other ?
The height of the first room 'was ten or eleven steps from the
first rotunla to the first room.
INTERPRETER.—The witness means, that the first room was
as high as eleven steps from the rotunda to the room above.
For what purposes were the different rooms of the grotto
applied ?—For no purpose but for seeing a subterraneous
place.
What was in the second room?—The second room bad a
small statue of Artemisia weeping on a tomb.
That room was the'only one, with the exception of the first,
that bad statues ?—Yes.
Were those rooms open to each other after mounting the
steps'?—After the steps they were' open to each other. The
two rooms communicate together. The first room is the Ro-
tunda, in which the statues of Adam-and Eve were; the•se-
cond is the room where Artemisia was ; after that, 'on the se-
cond teed, there is another room, a gothic room ; then one
step, and on the right, .after two or three steps, is the Ro-
tunda. After this Rotunda, on the second level, is the Ro-
tunda larger, where the cornice was made, and after that comes
a half square room. •
The two Rotundas you have mentioned wet e after you bad
passed the two first rooms ?—Yes, on the left, and then on the
right.—Were all these passages opeu ?—Yes.
Were there no doors at all ?—Nn.
Were there no doors on any part of the grotto?—There
were, at the beginning and end, two iron gratings.
Could .persons see through them?—Fes, because they were
open and wide apart.
Was there a pillar:for them to rest upon, or did they turn
upon a pillar or a pilaster?—They were attached to a wall
they were of one piece, and shut against it.
Were there any pillars in the rooms of the grotto.?—Yes,

. -
In which 1—I; -the second room after the rotunda there
were small columns.. . . .
Look at the plan you have drawn; will you swear that
that is an accurate plan of the place ?—I cannot call it exact,
because there is not measure for proportions.
I-IoW long have you been in En4land I—Ten or eleven days.
Did.you come direct trourthe Villa d'Este I—Yes.
Did you see a person employed to make plans at the Villa
d'Este?—l have seen several persons taking plans, but do
not know for what.

Did you see an. Architect named Ratti taking designs at the
Villa d'Este, five or six weeks ago ?-1 have seen him more
than three or four months ago.
About four months from this time ?—Yes, about that time.
Does Ratti live at Milan or Como?—.',t
Did you come with any witness here?—yes, I did.
How many!-4'ourteen.
Did you conduct those witnesses here ?—Nu.
Who did ?—Their An will.
You mean to say theit own expenses ?—They came by their
own will, but the expenses were not paid by them, they wet e
defrayed by the order of Chevalier Vassali.
Did he come with you ?—No.
Who was the person who paid the expenses on the road ?

Chevalier Vassali gave me the money, and 1 paid them.
Did you apply to any persons to come over 4s u witness?

Never.
Did you apply to any single person ?—To no person.
When did you,come to England?—On the 10th teptember.
Was you examined Lefore you came here I—.l was.
Where was you examined ?—At
By whom ?—The AdroCate, and an Englishman named
Henry.
. .
Did you give the same account you have given to-day?

All ilia was true I said. .. _
Then am understand all you said was not true ?—No.
Were you asked to tell all that was true ?.1 was not asked.
Many questionsl have been asked this day I was not asked at
Milan.
Whp,eXamined you?--The Advocate; I do .not know his
name.
What sum of money did' you receive for corning bete ?

Fifty Napoleons to defray the expences.
Have you received anything.for yourself?—No.
Are you to receive any thing for coaling here ?—I asked fur
nothing, but ifher Royal Highness snake me a present,l have
no objection to'take it.
Wit% you. swear that. yea expect nothing ?--1 expect no- F
thing! it they give me coy thing I will take it; but I would
tome .here without anything to tell the truth.
Will yJo swear that you do not expect any thing ?-1 repeat
what I said before, that if they give me any thing I will take
it.—(A laugh.)
Then I am to understand that you say distinctly you do not
expect any thug?--I have told you before that Ido not claim
any money, but if they give me any money, I will take it; but
I say, as 1 said before, I would come here without money to
tell the truth.—(A laugh, and cries of " Withdraw.")
Lord GROSVENOIt,-1 wish to draw the witness's atten-
tion to the statues of Adam and Eve.
Was there :tny column or pillar in the grotto, from whence
a pers'on could see the. statues of Adam and Eve ?—There is
a pilastre before the door.
Lord LAUDERDALE.—I wish to know where this pi-
lastre stood, from. which you could see the statues of Adam
„no E„ did not
,say that • the statues could be seen.
1 said there was a pilastre before the door.
Describe the Space between the column and the place where
the statues stood.
Here some conversation arose about this question.
The witness here wished to refer to what he called " the
place," but it turned out that he alluded to a plan which he
had prepared before he cattle to the House.. A difficulty now
arose as to the admission of this plan in evidence, inasmuch
as the`wttness haknot.spoken of it in his first examination:
Dr. LUSHINGTON' offered the plan in evidence, and after
a short discussion the LORD CHANCt:LLoR decided for its ad-
mission if the witness"couid swear to its accuracy,
Earl GROSVENOR examined the Witness fur Dr. Lushing-
toil to this point and -the witness stated, thatto the. hest. of
his belief the plan was correct.
Mr. PARKF,.—When did you make this. plan ?—About an
hour before I came to the House this morning,
Examination resumed by Earl GausvENott, -
Q. Could a person, placed behind the pilastre in question,
see the figures of Adam and Eve ?=--A. I believe not, because
the pilastre is out of the room, and the statues are on the op-
posite side.
Examined by the Earl of BLESSINGTON.
Q Had the statues of Adam and Eve any fig leaves round
them ?—A. They had vine leaves made of tin and bound be-
hind. _

NS, ere they hnng on wire ?—Yes ; brass'wire.
Were the vine leaves moveable on the wire?—'they would

move.
Hai both the statues the same vine leaves?—Both.

'When theyivere moredinto'the -NLshic roam as it Whs'call-
ed, did they remai❑ with the vine leaves on ?—Yes, they did
remain there.

Ghiseppi.Gavolini .szaorn.—Examined by Mr.

VVILLIAnis.

Q. From what country do you come
come from Milan.
What business do you follow?---I am a master mason.
Were you ever employed at Villa d'Este. the, reildettee of
her Royal Highness the Princess of Wile's.?—l was.
Did you know a person named Raggazoni•?—l
Was he a master workman, or a common workman ?—He
was a day workman ; I let out work to him and eight or tea
workmen, who received money altogether.
Do you know the grotto at Villa d'Este ?—I
Do you remember at any time any workmen being 'employ-
ed in that grotto ?—I do. . .

Was that the work to which he alludes when he lt't out some
work to Itaggazoni and others ?—They worked by day on that
occasion, and not by piece-work. It was another time I gave

IC tw•crrk.

Does he remember any cornice wot k being done in any part
of the grotto ?—I do.
Dees he recollect any statue of Adam and Eve in any part
of the grotto?--1 do.
Was there any cornice wotk done in the room where Adam
and Eve were ?—Ntine at all.
Was there any cornice work done in any other part 'of the
grotto ?—There was another room where I was at work.
Were the men at work on the cornice ?—They were.
Was there any scaffold made for the purpose ?—There was.
Wfts there any other scaffold ;put up in any part of the
grotto but that ?—No other but that in the square room and
octangular room.
Did the square room join the octagon room ?—Yes.
Was the square room and the octagon room next the
statues ?--They were.
At what part in that place was the scaffold?--I had it put
opt() work on the cornice.
Could any one see the statues of Adatn and Eve from that
scaffold ?—ln no way could those statues be seen front the
scaffold, because all the passages leading to theto were winding.
Do you•mcan the passage from the square and octangular

rooms ? —From the octagon room there came another room,
and then there was another passage, and the room where the
statues were.

Was the passage he alludes to a winding passage ?—Yes.
Does he know• a person of the name of Rastellel—l do.

What is the Christian name ?—.Josephi.
Does he know whether that man is in England ?—No.
Does be remember to have seen Rastelle before be left
tan ?—Before I cause away, we were together.
Did you see hint at Milan 'some time before you came
away ?—I
At that time does he recollect arty thing being said by Ras-
telli about witnesses, and what happened in the service of the
Princess ?
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL objected to the question, un-
less the evidence of Rastelle pointed to it.. It was irregular
to ask the witness what Rastelle said.
• Mr. WILLIAMS said it was difficult, in a legal vice, to de-
termine who the real parties were in the.proceeding. He
knew her Majesty was one, but could not state who the other
was.. In that respect the case differed from proceedings in the
Courts below, consequently it ought not to be governed by the
nice technicality of law. His object was to prove by the wit-
ness, that Rastelle tendered motley to witnesses to come to
this country. He wished to prove that witnesses had been
inffuced by money to give the.ir testimony. That was a fact
very important, and fit for the consideration of the House.. It
was a fact which might to be pressed against Rastelle, who
was a witness in the cause. He was desirous of proving that
they came under the expectation and hope of profit. He
' might go further, because their Lordships would find by the
evidence that Rastelle was employed by the Milan Committee

to collect evidt nee. In page 22G, it was proved he sent one
witness to the Committee. In page '234, another proof of his
agency appeared.
The LORD CHANCELLOR ordered the last questions to
be read. '

The questions were'repeated.
Mr. WILLIAMS again urged his tight to follow the line of
examination he was pursuing. The question whether wit-
nesses had been induced to come forward under the expecta-
tiou of profit or advantage, might occupy the attention of the
Lords at a future stage of the proceeding; and it was reason-
able that he should he allowed to fix upon the witness Ras-
telle the activity be had shown in promoting the views of the
Milan Committee.
Here the LORD CHANCELLOR observed, that it was
four o'clock, and before the house separated, he should call
the attention of ,Counsel on both sides to the evidence in
page 4.1, wheye Rastelle was asked :—" Hale you ever of-
fered money to any witness ?" He said, in answer, he had
not. In that assertion the witness might be contradicted or
he might not.
Mr. Bitoucuaxt.—We have two grounds, my Lords, on
which we can support the examination:—First, we prove
the agency of Bastelle; and secondly, there is his own ad.
mission.
The SOLICITOR-GENEKAL said, Rastelle bad been asked
whether he had ever offered money to any witness, and he
positively denied it. If his:Learned Friends could prove Ras-
tette ever did say he gave money to the witnesses, they would
in that case he at liberty to ask the question.
The LORD CHANCELLOR.—We will go on with the exa•
initiation to-morrow.—The House Adjourned.

FOR THE SUN.

MODELS FOR ADDRESSES.

Mn. EDITOR—The recent COVENTRY ADDRESS,
with PETER MOORE tacked to it, reminds me of
the old Joe Miller story of a former Address from

that famed City to our MAIDEN QUEEN ; WiliCh
Address, and HER MAJESTY'S Answer, would
certainly have been better models than those on
which her present MAJESTY'S Advisers h'ave been
working :

" We Men of Coventry,
Are very glad to see
Your Royal Majesty—
Good Lord ! how fair you be !"
To which HER MAJESTY most appropriately
replied :--

" My Royal Majesty'
Is very glad to see
Ye Men of Coventry—
Good Lord ! what 1•'ools ye be ."'
Y•ur's,