The Sun.
London, England, 1811-06-11 00:00:00

I' Li aI.IA 11 ENT 4 111.''' lit!: F. 011411,

The Viiencts of Parrritnen tny Reform having been
disoppointA in their vxpectatiun of .atititessing,
poputac'e in the. Guidtth4ll of the City nt London
rioted to aNsettble at the Frecmasotfs Tavern, to
propo four Ilesillntiuto, expressing their ideas oil

the subject. ..
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At one o'clbsk, about one hundred and twenty per.
miry had' assembled, including Reporters. •It twist
b, remarked, ttol me dinner tickets AIIIIOI.I.ICVO the
namts of more tban Iwo hundred and forty Stewards

consequently hair' o' I host Gentleinan (the colt.
veners of the Meeting), dal tint attend, and the sub;
segnent pweeedings when the busincst was
opened, evidvntly bhewed that they were nut uaa-

&mous
Sir JOHN THROCKMORTON was called to the chair,
and he stated the objects est the Meeting.
Mr. Tit rVANNION (of Cornwall) utile forward to
propose the first Resolution. In doingthis he ad.
vetted to the Petition presented by Mr. Grey; in
1793, to the House of Commons, which stated in
substance the unfair representation of the people,
and which, Mr. T. contended, was a dangereus olt-
glrehy, alike subversive of the rights of the Crown
ot the people. Notwithstanding this, • these
frietidly to Reform had been termed wild*peculators
and demagogues, although they possessed the same
principles which had bet n maintained by, Mr. Vox
rind' by Mr. Pitt. They had been accused too, of
appealing to the passions of the people, instead of
advancing argument in support of their complaiot,
that was a charge which more immediately applied
to the Mmisters, which every Englishman ought to
feel: It had been said by sonic ot the Members of
the House, and particularly by Mr. Canning, " that
Reformets ',tern a cceitettiptible set of men;". again
by the Chancelior of the Exchequer, " t hat Reform
was not tne wish ot the People of Englatal." Such
dechrations, he said, were libels oil the People of
England. Mr. T. concluded with moving the' fol-
lowing Resototion
" The the much quoted Petition presented by Mr. Grey
rw Earl Grey), en the Oth of May. t 793, to the Commons
louse ot Parliament, and then enteren un its lournais, at
lords a tleinonlittstiott that the adid House cloth nut represent
the Pcople.
" That it bath been the perpetual theme of the despised
Prayer. and hcinow.tiances ut imminerabie Petitioners; that
the &Ott douse doll% not sprat: ot the Maim).
1 hat it nath been the subject not only 01 national com-
plaint, but of Plrtman:an:o protest, that l'arlueuentC have
had an tist‘i3Oblitutionst
" That thest: COlropOotis in that Asseinh;y, which
, ought to be the gtwiii.or ot our Itnetijei, sic the radical and
Isar t.stlats of 14111Lii,1 mitinig• and Mama), ii: all their tunas
and vseeees; .-,oetner or intemperate go:lin:14 with ,othr
States, or et ruinous debt, and the pauperitio.; ot ituihohs—
or ot the oppressive, relentless, and exposituriat ciniraeter OI
taxation, or ut repeated testnCtiolls on the flatfoot at tne
Press —or of the eoinpliOted evils and dangqs of the present
ccolnet„ur or I. roachments on the independence 0' the
Crown ; yr, to sun up all, of a loystematie tendency tgsub.
vat the constitution. wherefore it i# the cooviction at this
Meeting, that a Kerwin in the Commons Meuse of r
Watt is ryually essential to toe independence of the Crown,
Skid to the tits:ll44ot Om people."
puTgus seconded the Resolution. He thought
the People ot England would be able Jo loan a just
estoilla t.% of value of the House of Commons in
the I,,ittie wittier as tiny ouewoulddo of a tree front
the fruin it bears. They had redressed nogrievances,
hot they had violated public principles. Had they
any co, trotil over the Executive 3 - He referred to
the decision of last week, io plOOl. that Ministers
would date any thing in opposition to the wishes of
the People t lie allude d to. the restoration of the
Duke of York. He contended that the Borough.
mongering system hail produced all t he veils of w hick
the Pcriple complained, nod nothing i,ould relieve
them but Parlitoneniary Reform, He
.descantoj at
some length upon the abuses ,and cerruptiuos in
the Stile ; and °Weaved, that wts.bod tjeol, told to
avoid the x Ittipla w hitch Vrance afforded, in or-
der to avoid that example, W.i3 necessary to begin
the work of aelortuanoo. llr, ;Opined, thsk to
tourality, and ireettoto, ,t he people Of
edp, yen more t h; any other nation. In
the pre.ery ot Illole,blessiogs he caliee chi all to
unite anti rttbilt typt*CitSiOil.
LtChOtOttoll was then carried.
Mr. iILoIJ NT ' prOpo,led OM, Second Resolution,
and went ovi. mead,' the , same grounds as the tor,
reer Speakers, enforcing the iitcossity of ()Mailing
. ltetotni, in mitten et.Oieeii it do,. k Upon. the prolu-
stem of dlst: ihu inn ot teu public
pthAte Uc fecottiWeitued itieetin4s. in, ilia several
counliett.
me M. Bolton,/ is secolided this' Resolution in
the saute teiees 'which the other Geeitlemeii had
tissttl, kit recommender; early Rtfoi in, in oppose.
two to the epitilou of tease io pow,;r, that
Weil, term were the terms of a evnquered celerity,
convinced its lie wits IWO a calm retoreoation did
not take ;dare a violeut'revottiliou ~eould. follow,—
He dlsclaimed all etioneetion with the two opposite
pr it's, Whip and Tories, h s party being hie
country. ,Mr. R. notiCell.; that ;1 lonng liar ut
nami-s appf.aied 55 Stewards, he fished to kilwv
where liev* Gentlemen were; to know die cause of
• their ,tewleiet ?. It the cause of Return' wet.: not
taken op warmly, it waeolno use. Hehoped Hon.
wee,: not disheartened. IChad b,en
„do li)' 1), Jelinson, who was a tnoiiaielty worn,
" titer po pi • had a right tti resift,`' tot ri
dellitcd, Oil the pat ot the people, fed, free, seer tre.
vent l'iltii.or,:m"•
S:r Vit ANCIS BURnwrrapolesizetr fur iridebessiog,
the nettle oldtged to attend the House on
the athjeei.,,f frioggie,g the Soldiers,
tht, toured
in ail and applauded the COM] et. of
tito4d country Gentlemen whom he had the pleasure
to he,,r. He condemned parties as ioitnical_. to 11;0
interests of the people ; and onserved,,:. that if one
paily (mr: F„N..;) h3d 'Odell up to the titoteastotts
they held unit, the eettetry wottld nut,have been in
the situation 'which it ae-o*-, stootL::, The Hoo,
Btrooet then proc,..ttled in his us‘tlid strain, sal cum.
mented upon a plifitgra M
ph in a oening Paper, O:iOn
111,, Sttbjett of the present Meeting, tegretted the
th.nitesa ot the Meeting', and hoped they would Hot
be deluded by moderate reform.
Mr. PEnItY defend,. d the paragraph -alluded:to,
and the contfuß of the Whigs, and thought . that
Triennial ,Pailiaments would place the people ie a

tttor secure sitltat.-in with respea to their 11,..prq.
setilatives.
Sir 'F. Iluitt)e.yr, in 31,,wer to Mr. Perry,'

served, that all to belong tti pay with ptitt-
ciple, bult b; pm ty kA, it bout prtociple.
ifTt..Jc)u (01.:t retioribtott of the ConAf-
tution a* eitsj,ty. dby his foretatherti. He, too,
&tented the a0,,...nee of so many of the Stc”,vard,
who detkrived ccostue, for they ottght not to havi:
held out their battles to the public it. they. meant to

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desert their post. lie was afraid some did not al.
tend for fer of injuring their own private interest,
iii trusted, hovever, somr;thiug would emanate
fretu this, ito.l that there would be another Meet-
ing, vk heti sonic siieCilic plan should be propo.iett.
Mf. WAMIMAN toought the abs,:nce of the
S e.% ards might .ft tse Iro:;) rations circumstances.
With respeij to the Fiiends of Parliamentary, Re-
form in 179,13, they certainly had abandoned theft
'ibject in 1707, notwithstanding Mr. tox had said,
that it could nol be obtained, unless there were a ge.
neral expression of the sentiments of toe I cople at
large. They could not place confidence in Mr.
Grey, and thu-e ntached to his principles, when
he found they abandoned the cause.
The Seadoid Resolution was then proposed 'and
carried as follows _ _

" tlesnlved,—lnat it being highly expedient,

that the nation in ail dlViiloll3 should, Ihd
subject of the decay of Representation, proclaim it,
opinion, both as to the wrong, and to the remedy,
this Meeting for itself declares---
"!'t at theaggrwgrite'of U,urpationa, which have
taken from the People a majority of the seals in the
Commons House or Parliament, has establi,hed
that most pernicious of all species al Governments

--an Oligarchy.
" Thai the King, with prerogatives balanced by
the independence of a Parliament, holding the 'sa-
ilor& purse, should have no more than a whole-.
Rothe degree of authority, eskntial to good Govern-
'client, but yet perfectly congenial with Freedom;
whereas an Ongarchy, that usurps Leghilation and
the public put ,e, bath unboundLd means of Op-
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Mr. CANNING (of Warwickshire) proposed the
third Resolution, and urged the same teasons which

the edict Speakers tend
Mr. JONES BURDETT seconded the Resolution,
and one or two other COMIC:Men made some 6b-
heivatiolis.
Mr. H. HUNT thcv,ght it contemptible and 64-
clitoris td'petition toe litm,e ~f Cointoons to reform
thecolchcs, and suggested the propriety of address-
ing the'l'rtnc. Reg. •Itt.
Th(.s Third Resolution, as I,llows, was then put'
and carried .

" Resolved, That this Parliamentary Oligarchy
became owertul, only because the mown was su-
eine rash, arid intemperate,•—only because he na-
lion, misled ny impusiors, forgot its Rights and no-
&mei, its Dune.,_
" Among a People, whose Coo ititution is an un-
rivalled fabric of Potte al Wisdom—a People ac-
quainted with their Riots' HMI their Duties, and
conveisant with the toendatiens or both—tor ways
of Parliameniary Returm are w of Freedom and
Peace—iwasmuen' as this Reform cats' only be ob-
tained by appeals to Truth and Reason, to Law,
Justice, and Morality. Such are the foundations of
the. English Constitution.
" The objects of Parliamentary. Reform, a con-
stitutional Rteresentation of the People in Parlia-
ment, would as far surpass Magna Chara and the
Bill of Rights, exci. Hera as
,they are, as political li-
berty in possession can surpass paper declarations of
a right to it.
Mr. WOLSELaIr lumen ed that so many men of
rank and taleots shruuk from the business. He
commented upon the exercise of O. privileges by
the Horise of Commons, which had seer two per-
sons to ;also!) anti he knew nut of any law which
could prevent the Spealvr from sending for him,
anti any of the Assembly to the Bar, and shooting
them. The ret ommendation of Mr, Perry as to
triettnial Parliaments, would he an tnnoyation on the
Constitution. 1i . to know what that party
hiCh Mr. Perry supports in his Paper had done for
the people, and he thought:at least Mr. Perty Should
explain hifihelf. For himself he would step for-
ward and give the Ffeeholders of Staffordshhe 10 Op..
porturiily of 'eletteig bite, it they would, at their
expence; lie tleiti read the folleveing Resolution.
" Resolved, in she, opinion of this Meeting those
Ho, anis t h., are the illustrious descendants of the
Runniluead, those of our Nobility and
Uentry, in (.),e veins coetinues to Bow the blood
Flarnpdee.,, of the Pytns, of the Sidueys, the
RusSehtor thL Cavendishes, with.all who respect the
foute.iersand asseriors our Constitution, and who
wish it to remain a glorious. monument of English
courage, 'wisdom, and virtue, may be expected tn._
its ely tie promote county and other local
lien public opinion may be declared and a patriot
union or men of rank, pri petty; talent, and pub-
'lit! spirit, ;bay be conselidated, with a ilQie
intrOroria petitions Mai,/ be• rresented to this nrune,
t;.e. a Reform in the RepreSenialion of thereeople,"
JoinifiToNE secoeded the ResOlUtion• in a
short speech.
M 1 . By NG hid been' of the same opinion in 1793
,s now. He imiwtited th.it tineet personal attack,'
upon individuals should ue made. As a Wail; he
had no idea of quarrelling with any Man, be has
p.m ty what it mighi, nor did tie objea to his reli-
gious priuciples. it was impossible to succeed in
Ore Cantle tf the Meeting weie not untied. Hi
Wished that a speeifkplan of Reform had been pro
posed. He approved of the plan intended to be
suhthitted by Mr. Brand in Parliament, because it
was tile best he had seen, but he wished to see the
plan of voter g extetutled further, than could .be even
by triennial Parliaments.- He professed to have no
other tkjed in view than the happiness and welfare
Of 'the' people. Mr. Byog 'was here leaving the
room, when
Mr, Woesatev exclaimed, " 1 serf afraid„ Mr.
Byng, you have just .Laird what was not yiair opt-
niou in your own hoose, when the Collilliirt4tl
met, you were. then, were you not,' inoppositiun
.to a non-declaration -

Mr. BYNG did not desire to have any ppliikai
Cointr ersy with Nlr.Wolesley, and begged tirwith'.
draw ni the same time, he wished that.
he trpproved of, Mr., Latino's plan.. Thot was a de.
claratioa whiell tnake.

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BYNG: again attetupted'- tO retire, but the I
company vociterated so loudly, his hatne; inter
gled with hisses and cads.upen the Charr, that Mr.
Byng returued„ aird exprr ssed his readiti6l to an-
swer any qn.:B6on,pta to him, bat he would e
n to the assembly to declare, whether they, thought
this mode of proceeding was, the best adapted to
plornote Parliamentary Reform ?
Sri 40HN THROCKMOKTON stated, that at the
meetings of the Committee eu specific plan ot 'c-
lient was agreed to, although, two papers were
handed in by Mr. Brand, and Sir Francis Burdett,
which they withdrew. He was sorry that Mr.
ng should therefore impute blame to the Com-
mittee for not bringing forward a specific'plan.
Mr. B Yno was nut disposed to imputeblame ; but
thew was certainly great difference here, and still
greater in the Committee (So,
..,,was ecluiLd from
the Committee.) Wed, then, he had been told that
the ratd was so by several respectable Gentlemen.
(Name, name,) He would nut name, but be was
to:d so. (Great diupp, obaliort);
Sir JOHN THROOK.AfuttioN observed, that there
wars much greater tlitfereece of opinion prevailed in
the Committee of 170.,
Several questions were put to Mr. Byng, when
Mr. By again was retiring ; 'he returtied upon
being called fer;' and repeated his declaration, t era
he heard of differences, but he did Ira mean to
.state that -they really did exist. He inSisied that
every Gentleman had a right to his (Onion ;
he thought Mr. Brand's plan the best he had, seen.
He did riot thick any 'of the Committee were ac-
tuated by any but the best of motive., and declared
that he had always preserved his cunsiceitey _ lie
then retired amidst marks of general disapplobin ion.
BOROOYNB sgreed that uettninmy was best,
• bur was sorry that Mr. Byng should find fault with
a Resolutidn which he himself had signed An the
Committte, and acceded to in his owe House, at
the same time usitig.every argument to prevent the
assembling the present. Meeting.
Mr. Alderarti Wool) stated, that there was no
difference in the Cenitni tde, and was proceeding to
read from a paper, to show what had passcd, when
he was called to order by his friend,
Mr. WAITHMAN, ho trusted toe Meeting would
not let toe Alderman read the paper,.as any tieing
tending to criminate or recriminate, would desttey
the harmony which in all Retorm Meetings should
proud.
Mr. Alderman Wool) was about insisting on pro-
ceeding, when his friend
Mr. WAMMAN protested against entering into a
statement al any little differences, which could only
satisfy curiosity, and would eventually destroy the
cause. What did it signify whether Mr. Byng said
this, or Mr. Bitted said that Mr. Byrig had been
eross.exammcd by most of the Committee, bud an-
swered with perfect good humour. He wished the
Meeting would proceed with the business of the
day.
Mr. Alderman Wool) observed that, he Must read

the paper---(Here there was an universal cry of No,
No ! Question, Question I Chair, Chair ! Union,
Union !)
Mr. Alderman WOOD of course sat down.
Sir JOHN THROCKSMTON ,stated, that there

really was no miSundastanding in the:,COMMlllee
!what was agreed upon was, t.:.) draw -the -aucoion
of the Public. to the necessity of Reform, without
suggesting any plaa. • .
Some cnscussion arose as to the adoption of an
Amendment by Mr. Hunt, by adding the words.
" the Prince Regent before the words " Paha-,
meta," in-the last line but °mot the. fourth ResOlu7.
lion. Mr. Hunt, upon the suggestion. of some Gen 7
•withdrew his • Amendinew, and. then 'the
Resolution was'put and tied. - ,
Mr. NORTHMoRE addres,ed the Meeting atittne
length in a satirical speech. in the course 01- :this
speech, he observed that. Kings- ; from the reign of
Henry Viii. to the-present time, had been all en-
titled " the best of Kings," and :where,it would end
he did nut know. • So far did adulation go in that
respect, that an AUorney-General in the reign at
James the First, bad said, that that: Monarch was
not only greater than all who had gone before him,
but better than all who could come.atter him.