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thought the prolongation of the tube was likely to diminish the
velocity.

To Mr. ALEXANDER, Mr. Locke said that he had never stated
this to any Committee, for he merely looked at the matter as a
commercial question—so much power lost, so much coal used, so
Much expense incurred. The increased length increased the
leakage; but by increasing the power of the, engine—by increasing
the diameter of the piston and the air-pump—m,re than propor-
tionably, the effect of the increased leak.tge might be overcome.

GROUP X.
CAMBRIDGE AND LINCOLN LINE.
At the sitting of the Committee this day, the intermediate traffic
evidence was resumed.
Mr. Po'..lock, accountant and commission agent at Lincoln, de-
posed ',:nat 20,000 tons of coals per annum were received and con-
sur..ied in that town. The consumption of other articles of domestic
necessity was equally great. The transit of those articles by the
Proposed line would be greatly facilitated, and the expense consi-
derably lessened.
Mr. Bartholomew, land agent near Lincoln, was the next wit-
ness; his testimony was corroborative of that already given by
other land agents.

General Johaso❑ was then examined by Mr. HiLnysao, to show
the superiority of the Cambridge and Lincoln to the London and
York line. It passed through the centre of the country, and
through a far more populous district; it would, therefore, afford
greater facilities for the accommodation of the traffic of the district.
After a short cross-examination by Mr. KINGLAKE,
The Committee announced that they would sit from half-past
eleven o'clock to_morrow till three, and then adjourned.

GROUP Z.
IrliE GREAT WESTERN (DUBLIN AND
GALWAY). I
The Committee to whom this group has been referred met this
morning at twelve o'clock, in Room 17, the Hon. Mi. Clive in the
chair. The examination of
Mr. Leather, engineer, which was partly heard yesterday, was
then resumed by Mr. JAMBS. He had no interest in giving any
evidence against this line. His attendance was compulsory. He
had no acquaintance with the parties concerned on either side.
Mr. Vignolles, civil engineer, examined by Mr. JAMES—Thu.
roughly understood the nature of the error in the line, and the
"fleet of it was this, with the Parliamentary restrictions it would
be impossible to construct the line. It could be made, however ;
but the gradients would have to be entirely changed. Knew Mr.
Hayle and Mr. Hannington ; both were persons of skill and ability.'
Cross.examined by Mr. MURPHY—Thought that even with these
errors he might be able to make out an estimate for the construc-
tion of the line.
Re-examined by Mr. JAMES—The line could be constructed, but
it would be a different line from that laid down on the plan and
sections deposited.
Mr. John Rastrick, civil engineer, examined by Mr. JAMES—
The evidence given yesterday with respect to the levels and sec-
tions were explained to him; the effect of these errors would be to
make the cuttings greater, and the embankments higher. The
sections would be required to be altered from those which were
depositor,,, so as to construct the line.
I. Cr:as-examined by Mr. TAYLOR—The line would not be imprac-
.le.able, but the estimates would have to be greatly increased. In
the case of the Dublin and Drogheda Railway, with which he had
been connected, where the cuttings and embankments were greater
than were stated in the plans, the assent of the landowners had
first to be obtained before the works were proceeded with--other_
wise these errors would have been held by the Committee to be
fatal to the Bill.
By the CoscarrtEn—The errors were proved by comparing the
sections which had been delivered to the landholders and those de.
Posited with she Committee on Standing Orders.
The case for the Grand Canal Company against the proposed line
here closed.
Mr. MURPHY inquired if opposing Counsel intended to call any
further evidence ? Allegations of forgery and fraud had been most
liberally dealt out against the promoters of the line, and he had a
right to demand that these charges should be either proved or re-
tracted.
Mr. JAMES said that he did not intend to call further evidence.
He thought that he had adduced sufficient evidence on the en.
Bneering errors that had been made on the deposited section of
e Company to be fatal to the further progress of the Bill.
Some discussion then took place whether Mr. James should ad-
dress the Committee then, or wait till after he heard the rebutting
evidence.
Mr. MURPHY said, that unless opposing counsel stated their case
l'"rs and the grounds on which they relied, he should not allow
them, to go into the general merits of the question in their address
Lo the Committee after the rebutting evidence was adduced, but
should confine them exclusively to comments on that evidence.
Mr. Jassns said that he would send for his colleague, Mr. Cock-
'Urns who was then engaged at other Committees, and he would
"Nutt with him as to the course they should adopt.
Mr. COCKBURN arrived shortly afterwards, and after a short con.
Inflation with Mr. James and the other counsel on the same side,
Pre'seeded to address the Committee. He said that he had
4t.,!‘e Bill.tion to make which he thought would be fatal to
g He referred to the difference between the real
rlevels and the sections which had been deposited in the
vate Bill-office. It had been proved in evidence that
rs was an error in some places of 38 feet, and in other
places of twenty feet, which errors extended for several miles
44)found, ng the line. In the Bth Victoria, chap. 20 sect. 11, it would
that the maximum variation allowed between the real
end
and the plans and sections deposited was only five feet,
_4(l two feet in any town or place near which buildings
Tire erected, unless the consent of the proprietor be first obtained.
t *5l obvious that some such restriction should be imposed on the
ea"downers, who would be subjected to have their soil cut up and
ehrvett to any extent that might seem sight to parties who were
ih-gaged in the construction of railways. In the case of
oh*, Carnbrridge and Lincoln line, the Bill was thrown
for a variation of 10 feet. In the case of the South
s;vha.les line, which was recently thrown out, the objection
eo2'h was fatal to it was, that a part of the line was laid down
thnogent on obtaining the consent of the landholders, who were not
thvit before the Committee. Now, in this case, if they passed
atiedi'rth°Posed line, they would be flying in the face of that decision,
would pass the Bill contingent on the consent of the land-
,ts4ers, for they had never been consulted as to the additional
es), ings which would be required. On those grounds, as also be-
:ie it would be certain to be thrown out before the
04,nlittee of the Lords, they should at once stop all further
taii,enedings. The Learned Counsel concluded an able address, by
ar;,g on the Committee not to lend the sanction of the House
itorennons to a measure which must end in nullity.
r• Mtmenv thought the case which had been adopted by the
wb`..r.oed Counsel was the most extraordinary ever pursued. In the
I,:u'e th course of his address, he had gone upon the assumption that
Points to which he referred had been proved in evidence. He
not wait for the rebutting evidence which he (Mr. Murphy)
121c1 bring forward, and which would completely upset the evi-
"te on which he relied.
si.,,,strie discussion then took place as to whether Mr. Cockburn
t 541,1 be allowed to address the Committee again on the general
.t,Ctf the question, after the rebutting evidence was gone into.
tht:L7 room was then cleared to enable the Committee to decide on
07141 t.
Posit, °Ur re.admission, the CHAIRMAN announced that the op-
thNtinsel should have the liberty of addressing the Committee
st 3rileteral merits after the rebutting evidence was heard, and
'Pesch Murphy should have the privilege of replying to that
'4 if he thought proper.
blat•
.. erlarews then told Mr. Murphy to proceed with the re.
kr, ease.
!DPs,„ 41Meny said that, in consequence of the strange, and, as it
se ~ed to him, irregular course which the proceedings had taken,
Rt" then prepared to bring forward his engineering evi-
"said
.°1 rebut the case of opposing counsel, but if the Committee
4titikia low him till Monday he should have all his witnesses in
iel 114"'
°lnmittee acceded to the request, and adjourned till twelve
on Monday.

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1)1111 HOUSE OF LORDS.
SOUTHAMPTON AND DORCHESTER
A l'he C RAILWAY.
4tkia antraittee on this Bill met at twelve o'clock to-day, Lord
rhei," in the chair.
''%,,,,e were several petitions from landowners against the Bill,
it,:itr lit whom was the name of Lord Normanton.
kote "1 appeared for the petitioners, and Mr. Austin for the
111 rt.
te! teamed COUNSEL briefly opened the case.
4 'Et b
N. k. e Mauley was called, but the Nolde Lord not having been
I,tl.lt:tri.,!_examination was not proceeded with.
kl:"
file„7n a shipower at Poole, was then called. The witness
Itu,rable to the scheme. which he said would be of great
L ia to the trade of Poole.
Nazi
4-111) RAILWAY (SYSTON TO PETER-
th:rI)4 BOROUGH).
.4 Committee met at eleven o'clock, Lord, Devon in the
44.. b
bi 4-11 Ly
h. eb. ASO opened for the promoters.
ye w_
, e. opposed by Lord Harborough and the Melton
• •-anal Company.
SLY
o AND HUNTINGDON RAILWAY.
;_ttikCin-tittee met this day at twelve o'clock, the Marquis of
7.e. iiicin the chair.
li,:r• et TIN briefly opened the case for the promoters.
4teltaihe°Wnita opposed the Bill on behalf of the Eastern Coun•
, 1/4:or „i:Y Company, on the grounds that the scheme would corn-
'll, ', ii,,,. rttilea with the opponents' line.
litecTl)l4,-e,ll', said that an arrangement had been came to with
titition ,_ts, by which he had been given to understand that all
t,ti., cit,o.ad ceased.
Opt ht) beeWe'Da. in reply, said that such an understanding had
111 4.,,,, come to with respect to one portion of the line, but
e roeee"°la extent of the promoters' line.
Ilk, was then cleared.
tie M/S
e -"ND WEST RIDING RAILWAY.
tl °torn.
4thei,tici
.ittee on this Bill met to-day, at two o'clock—the Duke
0; 1',..41,01:' the chair.
li'lik.,',ili i, °Pened for the promoters.
r•l'. The °Pl,osed by the West Yorkshire Company conn eting
Oraines. °PPonents were represented by Mr. Sergeant Talford,
Q1,„.1101,34awnd 'Nit% Hope.
I,sh'4 th;,°"b, Chairman of the Manchester and Leeds Com-
r Nt-*as et; first witness examined. The evidence of this gen-
Ntt:S gett°t4TlyALinrofaulopurcroofsstheexapnr,oipuocsdedolienewitness,
and the
lililt:' at four o'clock, adjourned to Monday, at eleven.
, mllt. „,, „....
h'-'1),), -"1"IPTON AND DORCHESTER
, 'it; Sir. RAILWAY.
'', I'led • 110 w
i,' - thn -Et counsel for the opponents, proposing to cross
- witnesses with a view to a projected line for the
rt,:aised' the Committee interposed. and the room was ordered
;btt,te Ith°,t d 1
- hii4l, °tale ~ elberation the parties were called in, and informed
41,0`-nairrnan that the Committee would not hear evi-
Oat) The of a line of railway not before them as a Bill or
ciAltqtthe or
should confine themselves to a case for
ttiLiNtipt)Wt toner
affected by the proposed line.
~t'iy / Whieen cross-examined the witnesses with respect to
ttp,ell'ttipa" ,vould accrue to the opponents by the line of
t. e'cloeui, acme very valuable property.
• t1)1,Iallit " the Committee adjourned to Monday, at eleven.
it,i tpi,-,4101.
kiir4Y '''rili 'INTG ORDERS COMMITTEE.
oloq Lei,,, 8 Bills were before the Standing Orders Committee
, NI; the
.N,Shafteshury in the chair :—The Leeds and Tina:
11 Itailwaaywcastle Darlington Railway, the Waterford and
it
'ONDON GAZETTE.
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EightytOtt owe rank of Cornet, vice Hanson, who resigns
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