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London, England, 1845-04-25 00:00:00

The Select Committee will meet on Mont May 5, at
Twelve o'clock.
And a Committee of
1. The Right Hon. H. Labouchere ( Taunton),—Chairman.
2. Mr. Divett (Exeter),
3. Viscount Ingestre (South Stafford),
4. Mr. Lindsay (Sandwich),
5. Mr. 0. W lieneage ( Devizes),
to whom they have referred the Bills and projects comprised
in group 00., viz..--
Hull and Selby Railway (Bridlington Branch),
York and Scarborough Deviation Railway,
York and North Midland Railway (Bridlington Branch),
Whitby and Pickering Railway.
The Select Committee will meet on Monday, May 5, at
Twelve o'clock.

RAILWAY COMMITTEES.

(YESTERDAY.)

Committee S.
This Committee re-assembled at twelve o'clock to-day, and
consisted cf Mr. Stuart Wortley, Chairman, Mr. Ewart, Mr.
Ainsworth, and Mr. Bulkeley flughes.
After the Committee had taken their seats the room was
cleared, and upon our re-admission
The CHAIRMAN informed the parties appearing for the
schemes—Londonderry and Enniskillen, and Londonderry
and Colraine Railways—that the Committee could not enter-
tain them in their present shape as projects• The Com-
mittee would prefer postponing going into them till they shall
be committed as Bills. Indeed, the Committee felt them-
slves precluded from entertaining them, until they were in

that state.
'Fire Committee then proceeded with the adjourned inquiry
in the case of
TIIE BELFAST AND BALLYMENA RAILWAY.
Mr. Gregg appeared as Counsel for the opposing peti-
tioners, the Corpus ation of Belfast.
The nature of the opposition to this Bill was not against
the construction of the line of railway. They opposed it on
public grounde, in so far as it injured the revenue of the port
of Belfast. This revenue was raised for public purposes, and
the Railway
Company came forward to ask fur powets which
er se the y did not possess ; but . their clause, which
allowed them to carry goods from Whitehouse Pier, which it
just without their limits, to Carrickfergus Loch, would ma-
terially diminish the revenues of the port. '[lie clause would
enable many persons to elude the dues which were laid down
in un Act of Parliament. The Corporation was favourable
to the construction of the line, for they were of opinion that
it would be of great advantage to the town of Belfast, pro-
vided the following clause were inserted in their Bill :
" And whereas, by an Act passed in the let year of the reign of
her present Majesty, intituled, an Act for the fitrination of a new
cut or channel, and for otherwise more effectually improving the
port and harbour of Belfast ; it was amongst other things enac.cd,
that certain tonnage dues should be payable by the master, owner
or owners, conSignee or consignees, of every sbip or vessel coming
into the said . harbour of Belfast, at the office of the
th
corporation for improving the said port or harbour
of Belfast, or to such person oroint to recepersons as
ive the same.e
said corporation shall app
And also that certain rates and duties should in like
manner be payable on all goods, wares, merchandise, and common
dities imported or exported in any ship or vessel entering and using
the said harbour. Provided that nothing its said Act contained
should be construed or taken to charge or snake liable to
any of the charges, tonnage, dues, or rates, any vessels
shipping or discharging any goods or merchandise on any
part of the shores of Belfast or Carrickfergus Loch, between
the Black Head in the island M‘Gee, and the White House on the
county of Antrim side of the said loch, and between the Cope.
land Islands and the west point of the Kinnegar, on the county
Down side thereof, provided such vessel or vessels should not dis-
charge or load in certain places, or make use of certain moorings,
or other matters and things therein specift d. And whereas
the said exemption from charges, tonnage dues, and
rates was intended to apply to goods, wares, and mer-
chandise which should not be sent from, or intended for,
consumption within the town of Belfast, or at any place nearer to
the said town of Belfast, on the said County Antrim side of said
Loch, than the said Whitehouse, or nearer is the said town on
the County Down side, than the said west point of the Kinnegar ;
but by reason of the formation of the said railway such goods,
wares, and merchandize may be conveyed thereby to and from the
said town of Belfast, and places Leann to the said
Antrimside of said harbour,
town, on the said County
than the Whitehouse aforesaid, to the evasion of the charges,
tonnage dues, rates, and duties lawfully payable to the said cor-
poration for the maintenance and improvement of the said harbour,
and payment of the interest on the debt they have already incurred
for that purpose for remedy whereof, be it enacted, that if any
the l'ort of Belfast,
not within the aforesaid limits, would be liable
egmoobdasr,kwedareas,t moerrchfroanmdizea,uyorpacrotmmoodf ities, which, if landed or
to the payment of rates, dues, or duties to the said
corporation, shall be lauded or embarked at or fr,m any place on
the shores of Belfast or Carrickfergus Loch, between the port of
Carrickfergus and the Whitehouse, in the county of Antrim side
of the lough, which goods, wares, merchandise, or commodities,
shall be conveyed upon the said railway from or to the town
of Belfast, or from or to any place nearer to the said town
than the aforesaid Whitehouse, such goods, wares, merchan-
dise, and commodities shall be liable to the payment
Cor to ran
y shall be liable to the
aperson, or persons, as
n such
of the same rates and duties to the said Corporation as the same
would have been liable to if shipped
in or discharged at the port of
paymentßelfe st. t
.A
thecl the
said
said
the said Corporation shall appoint to receive the same, of all such
rates, tolls, and duties, as aforesaid. And also to all such tonnage
dues as the vessel, or vessels, which shall have shipped or discharged
such goods, wares, or merchandise, or commodities, as
o aforesaid would have been liable, or subject to, in case the said
vessel or vessels had shipped or discharged the same at the port of
Belfast ; and shall keep a correct account of the number, weight,
quality, and quantity, of all goods, wares, merchandise, and con.
modifies, conveyed on the said railway, which would be liable to
the payment of such tolls, rates, and duties under the provisions
hereinbefore mentioned, which accounts shall be at all times
open to the inspection of the and Corporation, or of their
authorised officers, and in the event of the said Company failing
to keep such account, are to pay the said tonnage dues, rates, and
duties, from time to time, as they may become due; they
shall forfeit to the said Co, poration treble the amount of
the said tonnage dues, rates, and duties, for , the payment
of which they may become liable, as aforesaid, and such
amount may be sued for and recovered by the said Corporation,
by action at law its any competent court. Provided always
that nothing herein contained shall extend to prevent the said
Railway Company from carrying on the sad I railway to or from
any pcint on their line all such quantities of coal and coke from
time to time as shall require to be used, and shall be bona fide
used for the purposes of the engines of the said Company, without
any dues, rates, or duties being payable in respect thereof."
Mr. ALEXANDER, at great length, argued against this
clause. He referred' the Committee to the fact that, in the
case of the Lynn and Ely Railway, the Committee on that
Bill refused to introduce a clause- for the protection of a
public body, and lie trusted that the Committee would not
sanction the present attempt to cripple the advantages of the
railway to the public, who would be more affected by the
datae than the Railway Company.
The room was then cleared, and upon our re-admission,
The CHAIRMAN said the Committee having deliberated
upon the points of the arguments regarding the clause, they
considered that the corporation of Belfast were entitled to
some security for the protection of their dues. The parties
of course would understand that the Committee did not agree
to the insertion of the clause, but they were in favour of the
principle. They hoped the parties would mutually agree on
such a clause, which, while it would confer no fresh powe
es
rs
upon the corporation, would secure them against parti
evading the harbour dues.
Mr. ALEXANDER thought such a clause would be ex-
ersons now
tremely difficult to frame. There were several p
entitled to land goods, millers and others, below the limits
he
of the port, and how those persons were to be protected
was at a loss to know.
Mr. GREGGI said the difficulty would be overcome by a
point being fixed, say two miles from the port; at a,
those now entitled to land goods would not be disturbed in
their privileges.
The other clauses were then agreed to, and the Committee
adjourned the further hearing on the corporation protection
clause till twelve o'clock to-morrow.
The Committee rose at
hree o'clock.

Committee, Group T.
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set foi th in the petition of the Blarquis of g
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into.
ehte allegations
eaonnes
On the Committee resuming this morning:x
Nlr. Sergeant WnaNconAsi appeared
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Exeter. lie said the Noble Marquis -4 ,
to be accomplished.
to the plan by which this was proposedino
being carried
He was decidedly against the 'that town at a
railway being brought into the town of Stamford, but only
across a principal street of
passage of traffic
lieng'el; the barnidd ge,with
laced in it, as there
over it, there was no confidence to
the Company to widen
was no clause in the Bill to authorise
wired b ' the circunt-
- viril eg 3
the bridge in a manner, neces. all these difficulties could
stances of the case. He thought
asregtaardfactiel)itatthebee P
of the
north proposed the making
north ride of the town, an
li)6,
but the
near enough for
station outside of the town, yet
of the inhabi
all the purposes and conveniences
theronii" of
w
the -
be overcome by
tants. It had been objected to this line that gra-
dients Giles's plan, which to_ok e line by the
whereponlaeceiii
he would show by good engineering evidence that this objec-
tionsdtiaetnitosn wwearse
proposed too steep 1
oe sbpee ebi a. Vt, thatwhich at
wasti le
respecting the gradients was not trustworthy. After
commenting at some length upon the evidence of Mr. Ste•
phenson given before the Committee yesterday, the Learned
Gentleman proceeded to call witnesses.
The Cnatuotsot before the witnesses were called, intimated
thoughtth according
iwouldt to the standing orders of the House, he
not be admissable to put in particular
gained by thed evidencel he should call, with-
evidence regarding Mr. Giles's plan, which, as yet, was not
before the House ; but only general evidence to prove that
f.Mtrh.eGbirliedsg'se.linleibe before
a better line than the one under the consideration of the
Committee might be found.
rat examined. It was
Mr. WRANGIIAM thought that the object of the Com-
the Committee. dent Registrar
Mr. Clapton, the Superinten of Births, Mar-
omaitt tespeawcojauilidy be gained
his opinion that the railway passing over the street would be
a serious inconvenience to
Dl
r.
the station proposed in r. Giles's plan on the other
o f Stamford,tiietheetawsa trafficos fllo
side of the town to be much more convenient, as being nearer
riages and Deaths,
to the place where the fairs and cattle-markets were held.
In cross-examination, he.statedaithat Mr. Giles's station
, f a mile from
was a quai ter o n the wharf on the
admitted
river at the bridge, and that the as-
cent from the wharf to the station was very steep,
passing through' narrow streets, and would interfere to a
considerable extent with the carriage of heavy goods be-
tween the two places. He believed the inhabitants of Stam-
ford were generally in favour of the station at the bridge,
though he was not.
Mr. Barton, who was employed to take the traffic across
e
the bridge, was next called-4I . was en gaged for two weeks.
The following was the result for the first week, being from
March 24 to March 29, the time being from seven o'clock in
the morning till seven o'clock in the evening ;......For the week,
foot-passengers, 25,730; two-horse carriages, 116 ; one-horse
carriages, 776 ; men on horseback, 612 ; passengers in
carriages, 1,690 ; carts and waggons, 5,,,
uu ; horses in
waggons, 9-14 ; horses, 216 ; oxen, 52 ; sheep, 1,687.
The foot passengers that passed on the Tuesday were 3,485 ;
and on Friday, the market day, 6,782. On a fair day, April
the 10th, the foot passengers were 7,747 ; sheep, 4,282 ;
oxen, 401.
Mr Jackson, surgeon accoucheur, followed, but nothing of
material importance was elicited in his evidence.
Mr. Hopkinson, surgeon, and Mayor of Stamford, ex--
amined—He thought that the railway crossing the
street would have the effect of driving many parties from the
town, especially those who lived in the St. Martin's suburb,
which the line cut off from the main part of the town of
Stamford.
Mr. Haycock, a resident of Stamford, said there were
six fairs and five cattle markets annually held in the town.
Two of the fairs lasted two days, the others one day each.
At those times the inconvenience at the bridge would be very
much felt. He thought a station at the north of the town
decidedly preferable tc the one proposed. The danger of the
train crossing the thoroughfare would always be' consi-
derable.