The Sun.
London, England, 1818-05-08 00:00:00

ROYAL ALLOWANCES.

The Darla I,II,TERPOOL moved the third reading
of the Duke of Cambridge's Allowance Bill.
The Earl of LNUDERDALE desired that Ilia
PrinCe Regent's Messiige, and the Address of tho
House in answer to it, should be read.

They were accordingly read by. the Reading
Clerk at the table.
The Eatl of LAUDRIMALP. then observed upon
the situation in which the House was placed with
reference to that Message and Address, and to the
Bills upon this subject now before them. It ought
to be recollected, that to the marriages of the
Royal Family the consent of the Crown was alone
necessary. If ParliaMent chose, let them take the
consent out of the hands of the Crown, and de-
clare that .their consent should be necessary to
any such marriage. But while the law remained,
as it was, he was decidedly of opinion, that the
making provision with a view to the marriages of
the branches of the Royal Family ought to be
looked to with reference'only to the general ab-
stract principle of providing for the succession to
the Crown, and not with any view of favouring
one individual member of that Family, or evincing
a dislike to another. He could discover no reason,
for instance, why the Duke of Cumberland should
have been refused the additional allowance pro-
pose:l to be granted to him. 11'hen his Royal
Highness first married, there was some kind of
prejudice existing to the effect that the ,marriage
was not approved of. This, however, had wota
away, and he was wholly at a loss to discover
what had occurred since to induce the rejection of
the proposed grant to his Royal Highness. He
could not but consider, with reference to the dis-
tinctions which had been made in the cases of the

illUstrious Dakes, that it was altogether a most
injutions principle to act upon; because it neces—
sarily cast a stigma upon the individuals to whoth
the proposed allowance was refused ; and in the
case of the Doke of Cumberland, he could disco—
ver no reason whatever for casting such a stigma.
Ane this tendered it the more injurious, as favour
or dislike, arising from mere caprice, were thus

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made tl(e instruments of legislation with regard to
the Royal Family, than which nothing could be
more prejudicial to the dignity of the Crown. He
(lid not wish to pursue the subject, because he did
not wish to excite dissention; and it had been the
employment of the greaser part of his The rather
to reconcile differences than to excite disentions.

Lord HOLLAND so far agreed with his Noble
Friend, that he objected to the mode
.proposed
with regard to the allowances to the illustrious
individuals in question but he did it on the ge-
neral ground that they ought not to he taken out
of the fund upon which they were charged. 'lt
was infinitely better that a revenue sbouli be
granted to the Cr9wn, Out of which provision
might be male for the marriages of the branches
of the Royal Farnily, than that application
should, in each .particular instance, be made to
Parliament, from whence arose an increase of the
burdens upon the people. lie could. not
agree in the doctrine of his Noble Friend,
that the rejection of a proposed allowance to a
branch of the Royal Family implied a stigtn%
',port the illustrious individual allud,d to. 'Ma-

i(;rities of the House of Commons had seldom
82 reed with his Noble Ft lend or himself in the line
of politics which they 1?4+31 adopted, hitt his Noble
Friend would surely not contend that thereby it
stigma was cast up thetn.—Ele had no idea, whets
he entered the (louse, of taking any part in a (Hsi'
cession of this nature, and therefore he was not
prepared with any enletdAtions, but he believed he
Was correct in stating, that 'study a million

hal,l Leen fzrnnterl to the Crown for the snppott
‘nl v, H (I solely a fund of
ti,i, t, Xl,l n tin hr to ,Ikai,e pruvison
Riry .tri.,e,es, lather- caw, to wake se-
p tt4t,. earls pliticttlar case. re-
spec•ine 41.ich, NoOle Friend,
ti at' thsyl-ti to it'll ,riotts so, sctpiences, by tn.ilA-
iitg tzr..nits denend not opoir k,ity principle,
bill tavotir or dislike.
LivPtirnot..i,iili reference to wit ct
had Itv the Noble L trtl (.iollantl),
tci tt rejection by the ilottse ot Commons imply-
it:a 1.- sriLTnia, ob,ter‘etl, that' that xvtti not the

atlz,nn.,iit of the NOW/. (Landerdalt•), who
w•st•rvert, tinit,whert applocatiOns ‘vere inade
y, • •of several Nleinh•rs of the
mil,: ;Ind the propositions were agreed to in one
or,;! ri.j,eted in others, that 'lie rtjec-
tion t:,ere implied a stignia ; and in this lie (Lord
.‘igrPed- tle ae.reed also with the No-
ble Lord (Laii !er !ale), that the only trite way of
viewing cine..,ions of this nahite was to consider
rtf,re:•ce to the abstract quetion of

policy, and not with any relation to the morns of
ind•,iduals-; for, undoubtedly. no objections
a.gainst lite conduct of illustrious individuals of
the Royal Fam:ly.ought to weigh, to pre vent the
grant of allowance under such circionstances,
unless quch obj,•ctions were made the Mound of a
fur the'. proceeding. With regard to the (ies-
tion of the I-1, r-ditary Revenues of the Crown,
it was uudoulvedly true that they arose out
of the grant of Parliament, and were not inherent
Crown ; bur with reference to the grants
to the Cr“wri. bow stood the question ? lit the
tottor4 reigns since the lievolioion, in the reign
of Q, -en Anne. of George 1 and George 11 thu
1-lered'tary Revenues vivre granted ti, the Croton,
with the piovisio" of illiniMUM, that not less than
n certain surn should he apprOpriated to the Crown,
!ant without any maximum. The whole increase
of these re%ernies, to w::atever amount, plopor-
pone(' to the increase of the prosperity of the
country, being at the absolute disposal of the
Crown. _ ant as it at the commencement of
the recso, reign ? For the first time the principle
of a maximum was adopted, and it was provided
'that the Civil List should
.not exceed 800,0001.
per annum. XViost then was the necessary con-
sequen.cc ; that the provision made at that time for
his Aljesiy, and his h was only then considered
just sofficiew, could not be sal:urn' for the
‘vant- of a numerous family, partieulmly when
it heraine requisite to make provision for
tl,e marriage of different branches of the Royal,
and therrtote it became ni-cessary
to e',arge these allowances upon the fund to
w ich the :\ obi, Lord (Holland) opjlocted, name-
lv, the Consolidated Fund. Had-idle 1-I.Freditary
ft +Times been granted to the Crown at the com-
mencement:it the
'present reign, as in formerr;i;;os,
xjgris, t.ithout the limitation of a maxittzton, they
would now hire amounted to neatly 2,00 0001.,
out of %Oil( provi,ion have been made. for
the inartiiges ot., the different branches of the
Royal Family. But it must be obvious, under
the ciicum.tam es in which the Crown had been
placer), so notch interior to what it had been in
former reigns, their was no resource but to charge
the additional allowances upon the Consolidated

Fund.
The Bill was read a third time and passed, as
was also the Ditehtss of Comberlames Alnuity
; and the Message To the House of CommonA,
notifying the agrt etnent of the bolds to them,
was con%eyed thete ny The Lord Chief Baron
Ricluads awl Mr. Justice But row.

Adjourned till to-morrow (this day).

HOUSE OF COM,MONS.

Mr. LOCKI-TAILT presented a Petition frotn the City of
-Oxford, praying for certain alteration's ill the Hawkers and
Pedlars' .let ; a-id that persons should he prevented opening
stall • where reguki• trade's reside.—Ordered to lie on the

BEER.
Mr. LOCKTIART moved for an Account of the Number of
Barrels of 'trout; Beer brewed for the lost three years, pre-
viously to the year 1117, within the li .its of the Board of
Excise. the NAttleS of the Brewers, and the quantity brewed
by each.—Ordered.