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the na'e"
ountries vrou4l increase the desire on the part. of i
of
trusted that the performance of the negotiations with
growers of Fra-iee to i ernotistrate against the proposed rise
euties adverted to.
before
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, as this question was
the House, he would observe that the Ri4t Hon. Gentleman
had a perfect right to' delay communications and regulat °,7_
with other Powers respecting the wine trade, according ass,Tr.
interests of this country might require. It would not no_ot;
wise for us to depart from the c,urse which had been f .1!
these matters. th these
hitherto to have been pursued with so much advantage In
regard Sir E
to.. PthEeEfLeeTinTghsewipthreswehnitchth
entered upon by their predecessors.
POOR-LAW BILL.
sGovernmente negotiations
Captain PECHELL said that the Poor-law Bill Ftacj...s
among the motions of the day for this evening. He tru 5,7_
the Right Hon. Baronet would mention if he intended to
biing on that motion to night.
Sir J. GRAHAM said it was not his intention to bring it'll'
INDIA.
In answer to a question from an Hose. MEMBER,
Sir R. PEEL stated that it had been the habit in conduct:
in;; our relations with the East India Company, that they (the
Company) should make advances from time to time to the
for tie
Government of this country for the expenses incurred
service of the East India Company's Government. Such.!?.
vances had been made by the East India Company, and, if e,
recollected right, the Company had at the present mote!
340,0001. Her Majesty's Government prop, sed to makeal
advance to meet the expenses of the Government of the
India Company in this country to the amount of 400,01,
,
which would be equivalent to a corresponding advance 10,st
by the East India Company on account of the expenses d To
Government in conducting the war in Affghanistan. It" of
be a great convenience to them if the Government :0
this country would make a further advance 'e.
two sums of 200,000/. each at the present ti,Ti
Those were advances which would hereafter be settled. e
advances they engaged to make, or contemplated making, l'erai
such as would be a set off to the corresponding advances Ma o
by the East India Company. The whole amount vtuold
about 800,0001., of which 400,0001. were advances for Int'"a
already paid.
Mr. H UME said he did not think the Right Hon. Bar°o4
0,
gave the exact answer. Hg apprehended the object a to
question was to ascertain whether the British Treasury Wa5.,..,
pay any part of the money advanced by the East India CA:.
pany, or whether they were to pay it only in the first instntß;
Sir R. PEEL said that he alluded to advances made on L
count of the Government in this country. He answaredrei
question put to him ; and he could say nothing of an,' ofl!d,
question. The advances stipulated for were sums to he real°
INCOME TAX.
Mr. LABOUCHERE wished to know from the Chancell,,nr•
of the Exchequer when he would make his statement of the ef,
pe ises to be incurred in bringing the machinery of the Incoor
tax into operation ? He thought it was right that the atat(
merit should be made before the third reading of the Bill.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said be 078
ready to make the statement now, but he would rather defer,.
till he spoke on the subject itself.
INDIAN DESPATCHES. ..
Mr. D'ISRAELI said that as he was going to allude tel
subject of much importance, and one which involved a clali:
of a personal nature against a Right Hon. Gentlemaur,„,
hoped the House would allow him to place the question be,
them in its proper light. About the third session of the l!
Parliament the Right Hon. Gentleman, in his official cargo t'
as President of the Board of Control, laid on the table 'Of • ,
House a variety of documents, consisting of state papers
political despatches, the object of which was to explain and'ft,r
dicate the invasion by the Indian Government of those cou017:
commonly known under the name of Central Asia. The
~in ,:
important portion consisted of despatches from an incline
who had been sent as Envoy to the city of Cal 34!
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but many of those despatches were suppressed by the Home
_Aa.
vernment. A portion of those dispatches which were tins--
public were published. Sir Alexander Burnes, had chi,74
terised the production of the correspondence in which it W
appeared as little more than pure fraud and trickery.
wished to ask the Right Hon. Gentleman whether he on dr
explain why he adopted steps with respect to the despatchesuio,
a British Minister which that Minister had described as P
fraud and trickery.
Sir J. C. HOBHOUSE said the letters to which the Ilittni
Gentleman had alluded were not laid on the table as the av ',
of the letters and despatches of Sir Alexander Burnes.
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the contrary, there being in all thirty-six letters, thirty of weiTet:;
were described as extracts. It was never intended to rellit,,
sent them as despatches in ertenso. There was nothing avit_aa—,
ever to bear out the inference which the Hon. Gentle"'
seemed to draw from the omissions. The Hon. Gentlet;;
would find two letters, dated October, 1837, in whichtZ
opinion of Sir A. Burnes with respect to the settyo7;
of affairs was distinctly stated. There was no wish vrbeteii;:
to conceal the opinion of Sir Alexander Burnes on that 5°,,t,
jest. So much, then, for the omissions—omissions Whic.ll,ti
had not the least wish to disprove, since it was imossible lu, .
any State department to print papers received from agents CPS,.ployed on foreign stations exactly as they were written. ~i,
(Hear, hoar.) With respect to the alterations, he would ter
the Hon. Gentleman what was their precise nature. No altetV,
tion or substitution was made, except such as were positie f
called for by a due regard to the public. interest. If the l';'i
spatches had been published in the very words in which Ttwrt
were written, personal offence might have been given in cit;;'o
,
ters where such offence might have led to the most grs.,o
serious, and mischievous results. No change was made We',,,,, I
in the least degree affected the spirit or tenour of the lette,:`)l,o
If despatches were printed as they were written, the confiden`" gy
agents of the Government would be afraid to give such infore;nr,t
tion as they now felt it their duty to afford. The Hon, Genul
man who had asked him this question must consider that
late Government were aware that their sts-cessers would hats.;'
the means of printing the whole of the correspondence if ti -
thought it necessary or desirable to do so. Personally, it Notg- 0
be a matter of perfect indifference to him if every serail,..„l„-
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paper which had ever been addressed to the Board of C 01,.;
from India was printed by the House of Commons. 1 ,
lion. Gentleman was aware that there was a notice ou ~i.;
paper for the month of June, for the production of other paPe'7:".„f
When those papers were moved for, he would do his best, ',
re give an answer, but at present he could not say Fes' than .
had done. 1
NEWGATE.—CONDEMN ED SEIOI°Ns. Sees Se- /,
Mr. V. SMITH, seeing the Right Hon. Baronet tned to,
tary of State for the Home Department in his place, wishe
put a question to him. It appeared, from the public pr.o, —re
!Ls,
that in the chapel of Newgate, on'Sunday week, on theuccat irr_.
of preaching the condemned sermon, there took place a scen,.
that appeared to him highly improper, and indecent in the e 1:,%.:
treme. Oi ders were issued by the Sheriff to admit partisnl 0
individuals, and among that number, he was sorry to say, w 4":
many females of rank and station, and in fact, the whole na!laiss
ter appeared much more like a theatrical parade, which 0
most revolting when it was recollected what the occasion 1411iS
He wished to know from the Right Hon. Baronet, who ;bey ',l
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had any power or control to put down such exhibitiosis ; 1).',.;,
cause if he had, he was sure he would do so; if he had not,illor::
wished to know what authority should be applied to for such
.„
purpose. 4
Sir J. GRAHAM said that the Secretary of State for th.:1:"
Home Department had no power over the civic authoriti! d',,,i
of London. He had, however, always found the utmost resee ~
ness on the part of those authorities to attend to every sUgLeY ;SO
tion from the Home Department that was conducive to ;;0
;;It
general good. They very much agreed with what bad feuheisl!
from the Right Hon.' Gentleman. As to his regret at 0 ,1?
had occurred, certainly the scene that took place was cal?t; It.
lated to disturb the last moments of an individual whose lo!.,?
had been forfeited to the laws. He was quite satisfied that all,si,
suggestion from the Home-office would have its due effect.:. '
BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. ',!•",
In answer to a question from Lord J. RUSSELL, „ ~;',/,''
Sir ROBERT PEEL said, he should not take any vr\r-ra.,P,
of the Day in preference to notices of motions, unless it 0; A."'" ltr,
the Income-tax. They had now nearly arrived at a pern'se,
the lit of June, when the House would not be indisposed 4. :a
give an additional day to the Orders. As soon as the linots„te,4,i
tax should be disposed of, he would give notice of a resoo,, 7esi
tion to that effect. 'iif
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Mr. ROEBUCK said, he wished to bring on the 7.1 01
nesses Indemnity Bill that evening, and if the Hoaree *fly-71i ',,- .
permit him, he would move that the Order of the Dry for
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further consideration of the' 5 Report on the Wit'ae ses '" .
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demnity Bill be read. 0 'I
Sir R. PEEL, in opposing the motion, said he waS nti,s;
taking any advantage, but was acting in strict conformity ett T . i,.
notices.
A short conversation took place, from which it was ums2.4na. ' -
stood that the Income-tax should have the precedence of tm,
Orders of the Day.
INCOME-TAX—THIRD READING.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of the Property
tax Lill, was then read.
Mr. HUME said that as he had not been present at the 113;
troduction of the measure then before the House, he trusterd4.
might be permitted to indulge in a few observations. (l:
noise occasioned by a host of Members leaving the House, rel.;
dered the Hon. Gentleman for some time inaudible. ",,, •
length the Hon. Gentleman paused, and after the confloy., .•
had somewhat subsided, the Hon. Gentleman resumed.) 1,-
was anxious to state the views which he took of the messurr., -
brought forward by the Right Hon. Baroitet to meet tits -..
difficu'ties of the country, and also his opinion of the &lege •-•
ties which the Right Hon. Baronet had encourltered in takif ,i' ,
charge of the Government. He believed he was warranted —4'
concluding that the proposed alterations in the tariff
ivol,l ',
pass into a law—that the Corn• law was all which the lit:
H
Hon. Baronet meant to propose to the House on that
ob. 1 mi. :if
—and that the Income-tax was the only other measure
,AA'"",fli/
which the Government relied for relieving the difficulties e"-', :,,,ri
distresses of the country. He (Mr. Hume) was sorry to ss,,l6s;
that he took a different view of what was likely to be the ~,,i`g, V,
suit of the Right Hon. Baronet's measures. He believed te",,:/1,:
the Right Hen. Baronet was fully aware of the state of distre",),s'..
existing among the manufacturing population of the countS.4.:or
and he believed that the Government had not adopted ~l'oir.'i.,.,
means best calculated to relieve that distress, because they '',,,diV,,,,
not duly considered its causes. It was an error to suppose "7,1,, -,, ~
that distress was merely of a temporary nature. Years N ii.'
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rolled on, and he had continued to raise his voice agell'i 4
those evils. Our commercial system was conducted on a Pyl, ''Z'
foundation. He had always insisted on the necessity of OP!: ':;''
ing additional outlets for the exchange of the industrial -10/: ',d#. ducts of this country. He considered the restrictioniarpo.w..icr '.,
on our commercial relations as the primary cause of the a ';,'.;•.',.'
tress. The second cause he considered to be the lavV,h c_...s":
penditure of the public money. The Right Hon. 13arwaet '''' 'i
right in changing the taxes which pressed upon the instal"
of the country for taxes upon capital, but he ouest to lf„4 .•'''-'.:
made due allowance for the enormous taxation w nick preg'i , ;'.,
upon the manufacturing industry of the country, The Ri i''
Hon. Baronet had not carried out his own principle. Herbstk '`tie'
said that he was desirous of affording means of relief to ,t••• '
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financial difficulties of the country, without pressing upon '7 ' - .
labouring classes; but he was sure that the taxation could l';‘,
be increased to 4,000,0001., without increasing the difficult'
of the labouring classes.
MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS.—ADDRESS.,.,
Messengers from the Lords were announced, and Wm.'
declared their message at the-table, withdrew. sent;
The SPEAK ER announced that their Lordships had
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word that it was her Majesty's pleasure that the two Hello
should attend her Majestylat the Palace at three o'clock. "m. •
therefore proposed that he should take the Chair at a clur4r."
past two. . . .

INCONIE-TAX—ADJOURNED DEBATE, t '-
111 r. HUME resumed. Had the Right Hon. 1313.°-f •
looked at the expenditure of the country ? Had Ire taken 3-if
measures for the effectual reduction of any of the large and ;tO,
ot ",
necessary expenses which had been incurred during the , •
five sears, and which had led to all those difficulties? All t e
the fight Hon. Baronet had stated was, that he did not ,
that any great reduction of expenditure could take place.
Did the Right Honourab!e Baronet expect that by t.-4 •
4,000,0001. more fiorn the capital of the country, to be nniff
in war or ether useless expenditure, he would afford anyu y
to the distressed poor of the country ? He (Mr. °klieg' •
would only tell him, judging from past experience, tua; j.O
was likely to be disappointed. He knew of no instance -•
, '•,.
which the finances of the country were in difficulties
the House immediately proceeding to inquire into the
of those difficulties, and into the state of the revenue i to,
how far it was possible to make reductions to meet t"„k
creased expenditure of the country, or confine that exr.''the
ture within proper bounds. Had he been in the BousfLil3oo-,
early part of the session, he would have pressed upon the
verninent the propriety of anointing a Finance CrAnr' 10 -
In 1817 a Finance Committee had been appointed/ an" alle
sr-
Reports pointed out the means whereby relief could b
forded. The result was? that great advantage had been