The Sun.
London, England, 1816-04-03 00:00:00

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guts re erre to some instances.. ..Aror
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tory. :to. evince the ill policy. altetving to
eieliide the great majority. of ,anY. people Irma
tttl SituatiOns of !Uion'. and profit. Tlie existiur
system of tithes in. Ireland had, no small share of
'the Nohle;garquis's observation. Oind lie Pointed
out the way in which It operated with notch seve,7
ilty on the loner prams , peasantry :he
thoo4ht the iligictiltyof ameliorating this systent
would be found comparatively there iveriS
ihany stays iirWhich the situation of the poor ot
Ireland could 1k buttered in that respect, and the
its ereitti of the I4.7,stablished Church ktt the.sane
time nu,tterially benefito; The Grand jury sys•
teln was, the next point tonOled upon by his Lord-
ship, the process of which in Ireland sto the re-
pairs of roads; he described 'the tendency anti
result of this •as injurious; , effect was
in no small degree to benefit the opulent lapdE!
lord. The poireti of the
.Grand 'Juries in fha
points to ‘vhich he referred, ought to be takett
ttway,-some other. ensile sogacsted. The pre-
sent mode of appointing the High :S.litiiifts in that
country, which eotirely vested nominations in
the CroWII, Alibi of iltlill'lol.4 ;. it shotild,
be assimilated to the Engliih system. The state.
of Magistracy in Ireland constituted au alarming'.
grievance, and through the unfortunate eircnio
stanees of latter times, individuals had crept into
it, who were very milk to be trusted with its
powers. But before he concluded, he illouid
plore their Lordship's' attention to What he lie- ,
!leveti to he the blackest part of the gloomy plc•
tine of 'lreland, and which required the invite».
diate interference of Parliament—lie meant its
financial state, %illicit be could not consider leia
than a state of national bankruptcy. This lie was
unfm tunately able to skew front the evidence of
figures. He 'particularly dwelt upon the Ter-
feet inadequacy of the whole net revenue of Ire..
land even to pay the interest of the public debt
of that country; to evince which, he entered in.
to a comparative arithinetical statement of the':
amount of debt,charge of interest, and net tereomee
at different , periods, from the year 1751 to Old,
last year.' At the foster period! it was ,
and the annual charge thereof 14,2001. In 1800#
it amounted to 21,570,0001. end itS annual cht4ge:
was 1,31:;,000.;. and in 1815, it w.t.,t 127,863,0001:
its annual charge 5,932,0001.; whereas the net re- .
venueof theCoutitrydidnotexceeds,47d,Uool.lenv-
fog ti deficit of 462,0001. ; and oh the year ending
4th Jan: 1816, the diiference between the amount
Olthe charge of the public debt and the net re-
Yenue had increased to 986,0001., nearly a tail-
lion of money ; and this took place notwithstand-'.'
ing alt -the exertions inadc to increase the re-
venue. This enormous load of debt (and coupled
with the declining' state of Jier linen trade,'
which his Lordship noticed) Ireland never. could,
be. Ale- to tiear a0..1 it wOtiffl Erie AdvbioWit
to inquire what portion or the debt she contd.
orally lignitkte; and to tale the 'rest upon °Or.%
selves ! After an eloquent end feeling peroration,
iu tilde!) he contrasted the relative state in wit di
Irtrlantl lvonld be placed with respect 16 this coon•
try, frotothe reSult of a well directed inquiry into
her
,present allamitnns situation; or front a neglect
otsuch an ioquiry, he pot it to the feeling and-
con&ideratiou cif theilottse if lie hail not sulimitted
fitupl±,:sutlicient grtititatis to induce their Lordships'
to inquire. Let airy 111,111 look to tilt! of
Irelaud‘as lt.c hadiltscribedit, and n loch,: us , fur
as be Intttgotie, fed *MI (1f instead of 'exceeding
the-trtith,. null say, upon his honour, wiwther or
nut titere,. were sufficient gronnkio 'tor is hat hit
$1100(1•14141Ve for, which ‘.vas, !‘ That a Committee
be itfp,oillt ed -to -tike into .consideratton the r
sent State.of Ireland,"

' The Arelthishop.of CASHEL rose anti made trfew
observations, in a low tone of 'voice, upon what
had, fallen from the Noble A 141111119: particularly
mponthe,stibjeet a:Tithes, and tne conduct of the
'Established Clergy ; of the Cornier, he cotitentled,
that. ito ca,,,e had been made oat -which called fur 4.
l'arlimnentai y %interference ; and with respect to
the hater,. he defended. their .comitiet With respect
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to the Tithe arttetti, which iii; Grace sekiinell to .
think the Noble, Marquis.had impugned.
The Ma rquis pf But:KINGIIAM explained, (ilia'
nothing-'Which.he said watt meant us a .charge
agaiu,t,llie„l::,,,bii.4led eturgy, or in the - leust
hoitile. to 'The .Ciiiitch ; it was merely directed`
against the sysiem of thivertimel,t, tvbiett prevail,
ed, kili,l against the present system of Tititeti,
merely. its connected thercwitli. ' -
! . Ttie
,ILarl of .LI v KRPOOL expressed. his . opinion.
that', such merely was the SC1131: jrl which Ole No,
ble Martinis had used his argnittent respecting the
Tithe sys:eni .in Ireland; and after.p!logizing.,
the .pastortil. character of the Most Itcv.Prctiatri,
!, lie primeitiieti to oliserve upon Isliat hail gm:J..llly
fallen froth, Ito Noble Marquis,. I-Ic con,d'itswit;
hint and the House that he felt fully, . all 14 Ow.
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Ir'poi.tailve anti ntatiitude of the question, which Ile '
had treated .oC With so mach teMper and modern-
' ruin. ,A . thorough conviction, however, that nu
i
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acquiescence ;a the elootealargais's motion would
be neither the must preferable northe'reutliest way
to at t ant an end so notch deSire(i, induced hiui to op,.
pose it, He agreed that the present pet ioil was pre-
! terab:e for the ,agitation of Intel, •t 1 questiou to
Ia state of war,- as the 'beat' for attending to tilts
concerns of our domestic poliey lie Was equally
prepared tti enter upon the discussion with can,
Motu' and With moderation and us to tile tWU

tnoc:ei Eotilemplated for proceeding to a detailed
dibettssion Of the subject, either iti a Connnittee
of the whole. House, 'or by the appointment Of ..tt
Select Committee for
_the* wtrpose, the fit St,
though tinitterly sometimes adopted, was fowl&
ineonvettivnt for the object, tind the lotto' l're'*-
sentril a 10,ir4 in which the liouse, he tl,ought,
would not willingly delegate.its. powers tor
general inquiry into all the groom's stated whit
lopect to Irdianci. Ilu majotained that dial% the