The Sun.
London, England, 1842-02-04 00:00:00

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141 Y they had been in those illustrious exploits that threw a
lustre round his name, and secured t ee peace,: f the world—
even ou that occasion, in the year 1814, he (Lord
Brougham) would venture to say his Majesty did not recollect
any appearance of greater loyalty and of greater devotion to the Crown than he had seen on the present, in 1842.
He (Lord Brougham) would draw a conclusion from that
Presently, but he first wished to advert to another cirstim-
stace. If it so happened that his Majesty had visited this
tountry a few years subsequent to the former period, he would
ha f ' . yefound our joy turned into grief—he would have found the
whole of the people of England plunged into the deepest sor-
rel, by the death of the Princess Charlatte—a calamity that
(was felt in every part of this country, as if each family had shat a similar deprivation. Now, his Majesty tame in 1842,
and he found that upon the birth of an heir to the Throne
there was as great joy and universal exultation, all oyer. Eng-
lia.nd, as if there had been born an heir to every family le the
"`hnti•—( Hear. ) • From that two conclusions. might
rwell be drawn by the Prussian Monarch. Since hiss
'twiner visit very great changes had taken place
increasei
the Constitution of this couetry, and a very large
ye
Of the privileges of the people had been effected, and
a corriy-
arnple extension of the representative system had been
He
iL(Lreinstated by that which some people called a revolution.
oredaellyroughsru) denied it all, and he should always deny the
of that expression, but by a very great reform, a y
treat change, and a ver reat extension to the popular pwer,
les, and a very am ileyincrease to the representative po
and a very great admliss'ion of the people to privileges -withfain.
the pale of the Constitution during the interval since his 11
jestitliast krisited u Did his Majesty find that there was any
'rut at tee fears eXpressed as to the effect of Parliamentary
'reform ? Did he see any of those dangers
illvehictilnidthtelyiatwtehree
told strewed the path- of the Reformers—did .
People's love for the Crown was diminished—did he find, as it
was said woul I be the case, that the foundations of th.e
Throne were shaken? On the contrary, he found now, that if
a change at all had taken place, it was evinced in an increase
"f that devotion and loyalty to the Crown which had ever
characterised the people- of this_ country, and which he
(Lord Brougham) was proud to say still existed,
11entnithstanding all those extensions of privileges.---( Hear. )
~faml, peradventure, one conclusion might he drawn by
otherAhiestY, with respect to his own country, and an-
own conclusion by ourselves with respect to our
• There was not in all Europe, at the present time,
tieir believed there never had been, a more benevolent, a more
Philanthropi s a more kind and humane Prince, on any of the
ones of Et-urope. He was a Prince of large and liberal views
--he was a Prince universally beloved by his own people—
. and universally respected abroad-4 Hear, hear)—and unlike
fIY Princes, at least of former times, of him it might be truly
Said, that he ;I
ea was the more beloved arid the more respected
the bet s
observation
he was known. He believed that the result of his
;aljsty'servation in this country would be that he would
e leynscsourard to proceed in those most beneficial reforms
trY, because intg
..
don er us° It would show him that there is
.no
rne promises made
n
of which his prede
founifitlhntoernetsteofreththe by predecessor—promiseshis.enit.aaurea, w hic which, ft uh lefi
faithlli
and were
enabled by
heir
by
raised the Prnssian people,
aid to repel the invasion of Frarichee,
r'independence of the Prussian Crown. T
Ise Pmmises, by giving his people a representa-
• five Cover Ctootvherl3n nriettn;a:: kr
be safe and beneficial, and would even
Ile
(Lord e securityof his Crown and the Monarchy of his country.
.their own country,
to -
sanddrew the same conclusion with respect
had been al d idea
he ventured to say that those who
tut
00 1
t.sapai;ehiaste, the of admitting larger numbers to
the elective
ten years since, no longer held such fears,t
aatoit It'd .on It as judicious to extend the franchise, so as
do
ha sfriht in the Pale of the Constitution the great bulk and
obeli:at."' working-classes. He entirely concurred. in the
on the anna
IMade by his Noble Friend, the Noble Viscoun ,
noble p • - awa on the first day of the last Sessien. His
lasse ,
interestnd then warned their Lordships, and warned. the
•°d ad , against allowing a state of things to continue
theta i neither safe for them, nor safe for the Constitution of
Hou,,s2,!r, Here, he said, was a code of laws made by one
in, ;Lot , Parliament, and in a great part by another, consist-
fore
sy4emitnost.exclusively of one interest, !hat was no a f
the which was liable to suspicion, and it ought to be altered
gatnee safety of the landowners and of the two Houses of ;Par-
tite', nt themselves. He did not think that was a safe state of
or 4.11,, either for the two Houses of Parliament, for the Crown,
to have LIM general stability of the Constitution of this country,
ea 3t
a representative system from which all were excluded
were the who were owners of property. In what way they
degrket:_admit those other classes by what degrees, by what slow
dowo 3if they would—but in, what way they would break
obe
..that line which places all the property of the country on
, per,3llle, , and all the members of society not possessed of pro-
*halt if not in conflict, at least in opposition—by what rules,
their nleans, what degrees, he cared not how slow, how gradual
,kost"Peration might be, by what means they might best and
prevailed get rid of the unhappy state of things
.that now
be „,,..10, he could not determine. But that a beginning mtubse
trutTe7e, and that right speedily that a beginning
th‘Zaec,..',Lowever cautiously, however carefully, howevernlgnouwaarodg-
tat a beginning must be made for the purpose of sh_
oui
ld
for Were that it was not their determination that mat.t. h
true, 0, remain in their present state, was a
po,ittef: Which he was As satisfied as with the truth or
propesitrransosofpytioic.
on whieo law or physics. He knew that that wa.
iority of be had not the happiness of agreeing with thsnyebminan-t
freoue their Lordships. On many former occasions he had
I.IA hrttlY felt it to he his duty to state his oplotoonbteotwtheeeior
there! ;1)s ort those points. The difference P earlier ,wever, he was happy
thosei alluding to our
relation:nines of the Address; he meant.th
to say, d'clofnont opinion
to the
regard to one of
those ise_eith Foreign Powers
tions with that Power
had her:ers, he could only repeat the
.ewairnest hope, which he
might , e expressed, that our negotia
terudoauf, brought to a speedy,
tarl !"'
the
eorielo • ITZ WILLIAM con d not but be surpriseed at
a safe, and a satisfactory
believed his
I‘lo6le'rt of his Noble Friend's seech. nixes li, rierl had alluded to an expressionp Ile
nich had been
Pti,sot,e,--t,e ofdby him (Earl Fitzwilliam) in. reference to the
oiC 'ill, ohieh he had denominated as in essence a revs):
Little ro
„tile would not then enter into that discussion,. or
the
sObjeet'.'ler what had fallen from his Noble Friend on h
tatties, ,but he felt anxious to say a few words on one of the
thatWa Qva,,l,lisedeu
to in the Address ; the more. so, because he
„us. ii
hive
that if he were to remain entirely silent on
which'', Pet his silence might be attributed to. motives by
ett° her Ate eves not actuated. He felt the most entire gratitude
testa, far laJesty's Ministers for the course which they had adopts.
is il. that course was known. He felt gratitude to her Ma-
to that mcrs fur having directed the attention of the House
t
Rad heeP_ai*ticulaMaw to which, under auspices less favourable, i
durit,A.`,tits lot endeavour to direct their Lordships' att eration,
iltoteve,"eral former Sessions of Parliament. He had not,o.
ill ati , met with much support or attention from the maj
diyaeourest of their Lordships. Although he had earnestly en-
l'e,al fallte.d(' ttfu, ittlraw their L ordships' attention to the subject he
fteeeit3,llf , i neress the importance of t..e
_qu
1 majority had
ti'letio,glit pro'he.a.Zt,oof their. Lordships, and. a
h estion upon the
And w at the
~,,ernerit,l7,- L negative those propositions which he had had
oefti r io propose to their Lordships. no ,
drag '"se three
ti 1 th,,,t,,_ years, since he endeavou.red unsuccessfully to
/sl. actien of he of the House to this subject, he had the sa-
oiiitstratio nearing it recommended to Parliamentby the Ad-
ti roatrati it in power some months ago, and now by the Ad- .
4.,,
were
twa.s thattnetlY
n,,,i'lli,ert,ol3llll',i,eh had overthrown them, and overthrown
- ' iculturists,
and at.hish
tt ' power of their Lordships only, but by that
the whish ~, Itc.Y Were able to obtain from the. agr
th`:braction
otftl_. they had in the present law.
at variance with those interests wwhtihche
Ile r,l'iderat!it:rolg; lier Majesty's Governmenlitteirtehcadom_mnhoeeendlys,)
who
''' liot exa
."1, tithe Corn-laws to P.arliame . C
wh„,: N 1,4 (1.1 now in what. relation to the Administra-
h had
beer, fcevcry ~,a4like of great authority in the country,e and
tl,,ir I r roae, who knows him respects, stood, but
.0
he
‘„,3
bilolttrate.(f
ti;;ottse.
Opt , • 'e4t3hinVer,rs the leader of the party now in power i
cease," that
'flini f "ght h Proverb " that marvels never
But-it was a marvel to him, and it
i° ti3'rati°rl 1! 'UPPDXed to be th inspired genius of the Ad-
fs, le `are.' Yr'ic, without holding office himself, was a leader.
ratiothe Corellstsr.atiroi, and wo had a sort of fraternal affection
1;411 :1 atter all
Whtll,t' Parii,.", should now agree to recommend its eton_soidoew-
op.,' er he , :tnent, though,
of course, he could
.no
it
was
',relio, d "flot
rbeen Present at the Council in which
was
Bur.
,eeollllllaend it.--( Hear, hear.). He wa
from
Par'. that h
t_iie heard of the well-working of the law
14„44cerit te '""oirl now be one of those who recommended
;l" Mean e consider it. Thia reeommendation, he thought,
e'irkl'n4 was'nLething—( Hear, hear)—it could not mean that
ke:tvtlO.!,r, a Icon
in
from it, Or only
.somethi.ng so small as
nuke
;that ass,:'4, microscepe to
ther Noble
tioo had waved he might have, because ano .
discover it. He did not
sla,• lie to he a member of her Majesty's Admints re-
sift, of the dsirous of knowing, and he was sure a large
theereece betelataunity were desirous of knowing, the precise
pr laetine Wen the one Duke and the other, knowing well
ase%:lbitise jot,'
vwebfich one Noble Duke had made for the party
Iffi I oot b ass he was the great organ. He was sure,he
tesw the 0 singular in ex re i a himself most curious to
t eep the Particular Point P s, no .
0,._ e Noble Dtik
hail succeeded
s that constituted the dierence be-
ef a!ti. lie
__ e and the Noble Lord who
0pt:41,4,0.", no doubt, as anxious to protect the interests.
it s ght it .. '-'. as, the Noble Duke who had seceded, and 4
,ia114,10? Inprioll3 to alter the present law.—(He.aro But
Ile of theftrnePahlie
shoulds be disabused, and be put in ptossem
vet colieeteftPlon ga to a law so important to he
e.
(s.l: treat , ' from all that had passed that evening, that. som
'he"rislaws an important change was about to be made, in the
eere wouslhoe greater the better. lie hoped the
etsasoovreern-
ef,
thoped could troduce large and comprehensive
.m
~..,,,,re dealt he
liase terah.nefhe Noble Duke who was the inspiring genius
' I-, was about t 'deal with the Corn-law.s as.
164tcar, hear 1 " tr)t that e ''. "0 hoped the Noble Duke woulhd.
with the quell on of Catholic Emancipatitoriio.
repeat
41tteted inaniftegn, as useful as any of those
.w 1 e
t kit to th roe of war, so glorious to lurnstlf. and so. im. -
14'en i t e country which had distinguished his Adminis-
,rithe tss4o`eBhe_9•l_ Ther'e was some resemblance in the history
dei7rent'w felt as
much
ha.d no doubt but many of their Lord-
Corn` 'osf Inthehuolyprrise att the
effectannouncement of the
to a change in the
keltistlihwtrtsit'
ea".
..theerye had formerlynnfeltl in 1829, when they were
tioleo. eitatiott7.' The e war low that arge measure of Catholic
_ country required the eon emp
0_
lated altera-
rtellose weitiqit Pl.Ots however, be supposed that he was one f
/it:
hadall the
ecovoilssidered such a measure as a nostrum
if]t
r never ex under which the country laboured.
ialsed the _
oe pressed such an opinion—he hail never so con-
the that Os stion. But this was his opinion of the Corn-
wa,llitstnes:
wahilietlileovoawrions c.aalseds zhicticioutldben discovered of
the nation, there
ti°4
4toiri'e which was prevailed
likernsuo'eflioncient as the 'opera-
ltay that e Corn-laws. de did,g not, however, go so far as to
'erred, Tr, eu a large alteration of the Corn-laws' would go to
evil, all the evils of the country • nor did he say that those
,they e-0e,,r,,,e remediable. He meant 'to o furthr—he believed
"ad be—''' tot go back to thatstate ofprosperity which they
firer before
... .
/s had syn.l°Yed. This had been no case of fluctuation—
t" owe peueen a gradual declension—( Hear, hear, from a
t° h e Peer on the Ministerial benches.) He was glad
teat 48 e the assent of his Noble Friend opposite to
olaeorasertion_
of one who was so well acquainted with the
that, theturing districts• Each successive year had been worse
that ev e preeeding ; and he understood from high authority,
_r en a.t the
i". 4 axle,
e, present roo.eent there was not the slightest ap-
,course
0; any Improvement. They had gone on too long in
o,eg upoo'_ mischievous legislation. They had gone on too
t ev reCoveall exclusive commercial system, and they could not
iltat ses
rt. the
composition which they had gradually lost. But
eit ,to_ ,lo y they should not use every means in
efit , "er to arrest the progress of decadence. Hs had often
'nto
ethseifullitotutel)°,sn, their Lord hips, and he did so again, to goi
place'-'4 ttry: i';'011, and devise some remedy for the state of the
ut ti He was aware that a great change had just taken
,ttlY it :e Cabinet ware
great and important change undoubt-
ia thi, I, as' 1 heir Lordships who formed so large a majority
were oo'lt Ouse, and the individual Members of that majority,
were the ;It° Persons who would say it was of no consequence who
ParOf the czaaembers of the Government,or who were the Members
loos:_Mtiet• They would not say look to numbers am( not to
he sr, a, Was the case at the opening of the first Session of
PtieffP4 szt
_Parliament, about five months ago. His Noble
Piped
_"e Isresideut of the Board of Trade, at that time
dutywa, ,an addt ess to be presented to her Majesty, in which
hill, paragraph ;_sol3ut we feel it, however, to be our
~or 'l,l,ll:Ay to represent to your Majest • that it is. essential
jest , deliberations on this and other mait'ers that your Ma-
att,tYf4Government should possess the confidence of this House
!ells a/.l'"uoiry, and that that confidence is not reposed in
that
e'Setesty's Ministers." The majorits of the House held
looseilaifon—a pretty convincing proof' that a majority of this
MY heledd a. doctrine which he (Earl Pitzwilliarn) undoubt-
person. with them, that they were sometimes to look to
4 as well as to measures. He thought that doe-