The Sun.
London, England, 1820-10-28 00:00:00

HOUSE OF LORDS-THIS DAY.

THE QUEEN.

The LORD CHANCELLOR came down this morn-
ing at five minutes before ten, after which prayers
were read by the Bishop of BRISTOL. The
usual call was then proceeded with. At 1.5
minutes past tea Counsel were called in.
Rumours were in circulation that a Message or
Petition would be presented from the QUEEN re-
specting the letters which were offered yesterday
by Mr. BROUGHAM, but it was not presented in
the early stage of the days' proceedings.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL now resumed his
Reply, by observing, that when he yesterday
dosed what he had the honour to address to their
Lordships, he had brought down the evidence to
the end of her ,'Majesty's long voyage or journey.
He had already, then, noticed that in the course
Of that journey her Royal Highness had thought
proper td confer a new 'Order on some persons
belonging to her suite. The mention of that
circumstance had excited the merriment and ridi-
cule' of his Learned Friend (Mr. Brougham),
who seemed to imagine that because this charge
'formed part of the preamble of the Bill, it was
inserted 'as a subtantive charge against the
Queen; buttheir Lordships would observe, and
his Learned Friends on the other side could not
be ignorant of it, that it was stated as only one
pia of that system which bad marked her Royal
.I,lighness's conduct since her departure from this
country. however it might suit the purpose of
Air. Brougham to -turn into ridicule this part of
the preamble of the Bill, he considered it to be
a matter of grave concern—not indeed that
such an Order had been instituted by the
Princess of Wales, but that her Courier
13orgarni -was so distio.goished in it. What, he
would ask, was the occasion of all this ? It ap-
,peared, from the wording of the Order, that it
was instituted by her Royal Highness to reward
those faithful Knights who had accompanied
her during her pilgrimage to the Holy Land.—
Perhaps their Lordships would here be struck by
the reflectiost which occurred in this instance to
him, that it might have been supposed her Royal
Highness's mind would have been occupied with
other. thoughts in the vicinage of the Holy Se-
pulchre ; but it must be remembered that it
had been stated in evidence by Madame Du-
mont, and had not been contradicted at their
Lordships' bar by any one of the witnesses for the
Queen, that from the period of her Royal High-
ness's leaving Genoa, the household of the Prin-
cess of Wales, while she herself stood on the
threshold of the Throne, had omitted to ce-
lebrate that service, which never ought to
have been omitted in the household of a per-
sonage of her expectations and rank, namely,
the due performance of Divine Worship, in
conformity with the :principles and practice
of the Established Church of this United
Kingdom. This, however, was not done.—
No! but she accompanied her favoured man, the
idol of her choice, to those places of worship
which were agreeable to his professed creed,
though contrary, to that adapted by her, and ne-
glected what, he would repeat it, should never
have been emitted by a Princess of her distin-
guished rank. 'Returning to this aew Order of
faithful Knights, their Lordships would observe
that it was on this occasion that Bergami was first
dignified with the rank of a Colonel, when he
was never any thing more than a Quarter-Master.
Nor was this enough for that individual whom
his Royal Mistress thus delighted to honour,
for not only was he made a Colonel and Baron,
but promoted to be Grand Master of the Or-
der, • which, however ridiculous, was directel
to remain in Bergami's family for ever. When,
therefore, their Lordships found Bergami
so assuming such eminent rank, this alone was an
important fact, and proved not only his familia-
rity with her Royal Highness, but likewise the
kindness she bore towards him. Why, he would
ask, was this man distinguished so far above all
the rest of her Royal Highness's suite? What
reason could be assigned for this preference on
her part ? 0, yes, there was a reason to be found,
and he trusted their Lordships had discovered it.,
Bergami had accompanied the Princess at
various times, and in various parts, from the
tent on the polacca to other tents on shore,
to palaces and to inns. This being the case, be
should at present leave it entirely with their
Lordships, without further observations on his
part. He should not even pause to comment on
the parting of her Royal Highness with Bergami
at Terracina, but proceed to what actually took
place after her Royal Highness had return-
ed back again to the Villa d'Este. By re-
ference to pages .34, 47, 81, and 295 of the
evidence now before the House, it appeared that
alterations were at that period made in the apart-
meats at the Villa d'Este, in order to facilitate
that intercourse which was charged in the
preamble of the Bill. He wished here to call
their Lordships' recollection to this fact, testified
both by Majocci and Dumont, and because his
Learned Friend Mr. Williams had contended
that the door directed to be opened by her Royal
Highness was merely to improve a smoky room.
After all, however, when his Learned Friend had
produced the architect and mason at the Bar)
his Learned Friend- had failed to disprove
the alleged fact, and forind that his witnesses
could not come up to the mark he wanted. In
this particular their Lordships would observe
that the evidence of .Majocci and Dumont still
remained as it was, and there existed no doubt
that the alteration in those apartments was
made purposely, and formed part of that
system whitfi was to be traced from begin-
ning to end.; and, uponthese grounds, he would
submit that the ;ntercourse must have taken
place. It was not his intentions to detain their.
Lordships further on the subject of the Villa
d'Este. Coming to another part, half way
between the Villa d'Este and Baracina, their
Lordships would find some circumstances which

were testified by the waiter at the inn, and which
his Learned Friends had not ventured to contra-
dict. He referred to page 417 of the evidence on
the table of the House. During the stay of her
Royal Highness and Bergami at this inn, it was
proved by the waiter that they were observed to
pay compliments to each other, took delicate mor-
sels together, and that, after the company had re-
tired, he saw Bergami kiss the Princess. Both of
them afterwards went up stairs. This single fact,
which might have been contradicted if not true,
for his Learned Friends were allowed acne enough
to have brought evidence to refute it, still re-
mained as it was. Even the character- of the
waiter was not attempted to be attacked by his
Learned Friends. And here he must remind their
Lordships, that, notwithstanding all the invec-
t;ves and imputations thrown so frequently out
by his Learned Friends against the evidence for
the prosecution, not even one witness had been
produced by the Counsel for her Majesty to prove
that his witnesses were not credible in their own
country. No! There was not one respectable per-
son to be found, either from Milan or Corno, who
would venture to depose at their Lordships' Bar,
or any where else, that those witnesses were not
to be believed on oath. If, therefore, this single
fact remained to him, deposed to him by Galli,
what reasonable man was prepared to deny that
even one such solitary fact, showed to demon-
stration what the intercourse was ? Even his
Learned Friend, Mr. Brougham, had been con-

strained to admit that the act of sitting on
a gun, between a male and female, with the
arms of one entwined round the other's neck,
was certainly all except the granting the
last favour. He would maintain, then, ac-
cording to the doctrine of the Counsel for her
Majesty, that in this instance he had established
an inference of that intercourse which was charged
in the preamble of the Bill. Coming now to
that part of the evidence which related to her
Royal Highness's tour into Germany, he wished
to examine the case (pp. 323, 324,) with refe-
rence to what occurred at Charnite. ft would
be remembered that her Royal Highness was
proceeding on her way, when herself and suite
were detained or stopt, from want of pass-
ports, and she was obliged to retard her jour-
ney till the following day. Dumont, while de-
posing to the intervening scenes, had stated that
she was ordered by her Royal highness to retire
from her room, on a particular occasion, but that
Bergami remained in the room together with her
Royal Highness till the following day. Now,
bow did the matter stand with respect to proof on
either side ? Ile had been charged with not prov-
ing this part of his case, but he entreated their Lor-
dships to observe what Mr. Brougham had achiev-
ed on his part, who said that preparations were
made for setting outiannediately on the return of
Bergami, in the short period of one hour and a half.
Further than this, it was alleged that'.l witnesses
should be brought to contradict this part of the
.evidence; but if their Lordships would refer to
p.p. 743 and 945, they would find that only two
witnesses were brought. Among the witnesses
who might have been produced by the Coun-
sel for the Queen, he could guess, pretty
clearly, why one important witness had not
been brought could certainly • guess why
the Countess of Oldi had never keen pro-
duced. But, to the cane, and here he would
ask, was her Royal Highness's baggage then
packed up, or not, when Bergami got back ?
Upon this subject there existed no doubt;
for it appeared in evidence, that the bag-
gage had never been unpacked at all, so
that there was nothing to prepare in order
to depart. It resulted from a testimony of Vas-
sali (p. 937) that Bergami, on his return, went
into her Royal Highness's room, but that witness
did not say whether she was dressed or un-
dressed on that occasion. He afterwards says,
however, that the Princess was covered with
shawls, or something like it.--Dumont, in her
evidence, did not say whether the Princess was
covered or not ; but she was asked if any one was
permitted to remain hi the bed-room with her R. H.
With respect to the time, it appeared that this
happened in the month of March, yet her Royal
Highness did not set out till after breakfast on the
morning which followed the evening of Bergami's
return with passports he had been dispatched for.
Dumont's evidence so far corresponded with that
given by Vassali.—[Here the Attorney-General,
with great clearness, went over the evidence as
applying to this particular fact, and shewed that
her Royal Highness might have set out sooner than
she did, and ridiculed the notion of Vassali's
running back to and from her Royal Highness's
bed-room, and so watching the Princess and
Bergami, that they could not possibly do any
thing except what this witness must have seen.]
After this, the Learned Counsel next commented-
on what passed in the bed-room of the inn at
Carlsrhue. He defended the 'testimony of Bar-
bara Krantz ; and he shewed that she was con-
firmed by the evidence of Lieutenant Hownam in
the principal points, while her testimony was dis-
proved by no other.—(Left speaking.)

We have received Demerara Papers to the
7th of August, which contain advices from
several other colonies in the West Indies.
The Governor of Trinidad had beea absent
for about ten weeks on a cruize for the benefit of
his health, but had returned ; and several Ad-
dresses had been presented to him, one of which
was to request his Excellency to.advise his MA-
-3 tsTy's Ministers to extend to that Colony the
inestimable benefits of a British Constitution
and Trial by Jury. The accounts from To-
bago mention that the 4th Regiment has suf-
fered very severely in officers and men by malig-
nant fever, which raged in the garrison with great
violence, and is not yet totally subdued. His Ex-
cellency, Major-Gen. Sir F. Robinson, took every
precaution, on its first op' earance, to prevent its
spreading. The Legislature having been applied
to, also took measures to prevent its introduction
in the town and amongst the shipping, both of
which are in a healthy state.

THE SUN.

ZOLEM QUIS DICERE FALSUM AUDILAT?

LONDON,
SATURDAY, OCTOBER 28, 1820.

It was confidently rumoured this day at the
West End of the Town, and at length was very
prevalent in the City also, that the real purport
of the unexpected visits of the Prince of SAXE
Conouno to THE QUEEN was to offer some new
proposition to HEIL MAJESTY that might put a
total stop to farther Proceedings in the House of
Lords. We, however, plaqe no confidence in
this rumour, and hold such an object to be
wholly impracticable, consistently with the de
mands of Justice, the expectations of the People,
bud the honour of the Nation.

The Public Press, we are sorry to say, has
long been held in disesteem by the People in
general, and it is too manifestly in some places
open to corruption, and debased by malignity.—
Since the unfortunate business of Tne QUEEN
commenced, Public Writers have exceeded all
bounds of decency, and have boldly preached
the doctrines of Sedition. In some of the shame-
less Journals alluded to, every possible attempt
has been made to stifle the truth brought forth
by the evidence, and to vindicate THE QUEEN
by the most infamous -attacks upon lit.; MAJ Lir Y.
What must all other States think of a Govern-
ment that is unable to suppress such atrocious
licentiousness? What they do think is too well
known. They consider us as sunk into the
lowest depths of immorality, and on the verge
of rebellion. How happy will it be for the
Country when this most lamentable Trial is at an
end! The Law may then be able to resume its
authority, the course of Sedition may be check-
ed, the wicked Libelers upon the Religion, as
well as the Government of the Country, be
brought to due punishment, and the Constitution,
be secured.

We have again had no arrival of Paris Papers.
Two days' Journals are due.

PRANCE LEOTOLD.----The Morning Chronicle
of this day attributes the visit of this Prince to
HER MAJESTY yesterday to his conviction of her
innocence, and says, that " the very serious illness
under which HEn. MaaEsry is imw labouring
obliged her to receive his Royal Highness in her
bed-chamber." She must be seriously ill indeed
to submit to such an indelicacy, even with her
Son-in-Law. The Times of this day is indignant'
at the supposition of the illness, the existence
of which it denies, and
.pronounces an " infamous
attempt to explain away the effect of his High-
ness's first visit." The Times, indeed, impudently
adds, " and a Prelate too—they say, the first of
his craft—was sent about to sanction the false-
hood."—The fact of the Prince's visit is certain,
and it remains with himself to explain why, if he
feels this conviction of HER MAJESTY'S innocence.,
he delayed that visit so long, or why, if he does
not feel that conviction, he should now think it
necessary to go at all ?
The Times, a few days ago, charged the whole
Scottish Nation with treachery, and, of course,
would recommend us to have nothing to do with
so. perfidious a People. The Morning Chronicle,
this day, advises us to get rid of " that miserable
Electorate," Hanover. We may presume that
these loyal Papers will next recommend a disso-
lution of-our connection with Ireland, and after-
' wards 'an abandonment of all our Colonial and
' Asiatic Possessions ! If, indeed, the doctrines of
those Papers were to be adopted, poor Old Eng-
land would soon be reduced to a defenceless
Island, and fall an easy prey to the first invader.
It was recently reported that His MAJESTY
intended to withdraw wholly from Brighton, in
consequence of some indecent conduct that oc-
curred respecting THE QUEEN, but it was found,
on inquiry, to result from a few fugitive Dandies,
and a
_military Dotard, whose ill-behavour, of '
course, ought not to ittlect the general character
of the town for loyalty, and its pesuliar respect
and gratitude towards his present MAJESTY.
THE Kiso arrived at Brighton on Wednesday
evening, at half past seven o'clock, from Wind-
sor.—A large concourse of inhabitants, many of
whom had flambeaux, assembled at the north
entrance of the town some time before ; and, on
the near approach of the royal carriage, greeted
the return of our Patron with loud and enthu-
siastic cheers.--While his Majesty was in the act
of alighting in Marlbro'-row, we heard repeated
exclamations of " God bless King George the
Fourth;" and after his Majesty had entered the I
house, hums, three times three, were given in a
truly loyal style.—lt was intended to illuminate ,
the town on the following night, but the order,
published to that effect by the High Consla.ble,
was, at the instance of the public meeting held
the same day at the Gid Ship, to address his
Majesty, (to which the King returned a most
gracious answer,) countermanded, in order that
that testimony of respect might be reserved fur
the next visit of the Kiug, which will be at no
very distant period ;. and when due time for pre-
paration will enable it to be at once most bril-
liant and general.—His Majesty is expected to
take his departure this day.--We are happy to
learn that he enjoys a good state of health.—
(Brighton Herald, Oct. V.)

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HOUK', OF LORDS, OcT.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL COIICIUded
a
past One o'clock, when the SottaroA,
RAL commenced, and continued We°
four.—The House then adjurned till
morning, to hear the remainder of the S 0
GENERAL'S Speech. They will then, it 15
stood, adjourn till Thursday.

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CURSORY QUESTIONS•

Is IT TRUE that certain Noble Person,

have opposed the Bill now under the considerati°!°:
ment, and who have, in the opinion of the relleeli"b
the community, advocated the Cause of her lki4est! of
of forbearing to express any opinion on the 016'41
• eon'
whole of the case has beets gone through,hare, in 40:
with their Brother Magistrates and friends, exrressei ict
pialified disapprobation and abhorrence of the c`st
who is the immediate object of this
It IT THUS that the several Witnesses,' who liptt4„
presented, by Mr. Brougham, to have been
seduced by the tate Banns Ompteda, were in Lon j,slo'
sal wrehs before the Queen's Case was closed, ri.'•
~titt, sitly, miktit have hero examined, and 4°.,;„01,1:.
Letterstier -ettirs •brought forward yesterday by. this
sl
voc.ate, under circumstances of great suspicion'
.) if
great er irregularity ? 114,14
T Wit ST CAITIL Is it to attributed; that 4
were not produced before ? Is it heea'use Baron t,'lo,
now dead. or is it because they were unhoow°
principal 2.i.:4; AL Advisers of the Queen ; or becatli
inifioldritri, with whom they do (int associate, A'n
1 .211
meet, woold not disclose them. but reserved 14“,10;
another peculiar invident hit the close of Chi' -10
Drain., arid In order to create smother
ciroteive, its his consoinate wisdom, in I:alVtg.

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?dist.
Is irrress that should these peathvol6gol
veer ik rd io evidence, that th.e Counsel for 141
prevented front adducing evidence to irtilres4ll i
postfutiaroma documents, under suds eircaisettanr•, :1,.
su,li a quarter, must he received with great cauivite
trtist ; and to I ebot the charge of-consiiiravy a"lhie el
of prijary, and to esiahlisis tsg unitirprachav
hit het 0 intimidated.. their general case ? heti
CAN IT BE vatic that Noble Earl who ha-s
on this occasion, and who cindeseended to din' the
with Betz:soli at Het Xlajes's e0rg44e,,,,41
stance of Ili•rgansi retiring trolil it before the
monied, ot that -111!, the Noble Earl, obierced,"is4l
;n
-man who sat next to trim ti , that Bergari, who 10*°,1,e'
dating tic dinner, hash leittesl the room; SS lira „d
,f.taii said tie 'knew where Berg:inn was gone, i't-rk,
would immediately find lins—stail according'," ft("
and 505.14 returned and said, he had found IV pcb
sitting belowwith his oxen leikt. So°
campanilia of a British Peer !!
el't
Is IT TRUE that some s( The witnesses woo •fiet
rw.ited have acknowledged that they were afraid a
lair displeasure, wad theref.re did nut RtigoVer o;tiod
VS they could have done many of the general (la'
were asked them ? 0,0
lii ii' ro ak: mettettatn, that the Tpper Haut° 4.eft'
is to be intimidated from the ereneise
un:haviilrd, and impartial jridgructot in the 7the
whatever may be its result ? Is it not the doff loce
to stipport, kg ft/ 111,;1113 du their ,power,flot ff.,
of a public ditty hr Partiaasent, alten
of intimidal ion hashes-it resorted to Ivy les
cog:tally east, inywdently clan& to themselves 144
and etiviaislr distinction ke:lng—t la.e A.elroett t•,.
11,4;hts—the N'indicators of Public Wrottes-01'io*
tv•r, of Ilse Freedotri and Lilies is of Speeds aril •"'
cooditions of iift• ?
Is it Ltitct v that the
Writ t• these uutrx}tes on cutnntrw will
any
al (1)141 447:1 cps"
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tl
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and to the wicked d.elwsisni whir% has
? Can the Public believe, that the sole tiljAy
t isrotection and relief of Ihr tun fisottairetc
become 244 id)%t rumen* in itse hands of a dr.slg..r
for the worst of purposes? is trite t firr ,
her error, and that site stow finds that she .7101.
'been wholly guided by her 1.,w Arlsise.re, and her
die/duo/who, to bet ilUTruvr and dist„rrate,lbrougi'lict,
Is it not equally true, that 4(r. Parr has nereiroltr'itif
mused any document, paper, or answer for Her
13 fa' TIWIL tilLt the Wife of a Banker at Kome„,llo'
hely the jewels of a certain Individual ; and bY L-104
did she become possessed sof them. and tor swhaf P"- t
they derseited with her 'husband ?
Is IT TRUE that Madame ()Idi, Marlette 1)1° st
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nyunts, and Recruit ot kers oilier ilajony'i .verv-
0,4 tsi
NOW, in England, and might bars harm called Or,
before Mr. Dr 111114.11 summed uki ?-Il'hat infecti',ool
drawn (corn I his.circumstance, or what itifercil‘'cuiti%
Brougham have drawst,had witnesses
un the other ride been here, and not exiustirsed "'
tiny-General ? a
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Ckapter Coffee. bogie, Friday Nett,
Oct. 97.

SIIIP NEWS.

Muroan Ocr. CL—On the 23d, about a inilt t;11:,
of this liarb'onr, the pilot ionark Waterloo fell 0:4,
swimming between wind and water. They totLelrf
and had every seppearative of getting into this at °A'
the great western swell burr heron shore, arid Tr"rr,
to pieces. She appeared t., be a schooner of 7.7,10;
with ninsts gone about three feet above the wine"' 01.
ed green. Several large casks were the follro'ill,ris
seen floating hear Milford tolatul, supposed to Is' f
•Cll riro. ,
SCILLY, OCT. 14.—The City of Edinburgh is p- A
now at St Marls Pier with considerahle. dainspoi
Yid, in n gals, the brig Shamrock, lying at St. vs
away both masts.—The large boat in the rearentii.‘
this purt is lost in the gale.
HARWICH, Ocr. 27.—Arrived the Fortitude, t's
Bevel, with the kiss of anchor and cable. • 1.10/‘;
ITAIWUCATY., ()CT. ¶7.—Arrive4 the Wliarfer. r
from Hannerfest, with loss of sails and one rnas!'ilo.'
STROM miss, Ocr. 1 I.—At tired the Lord WelllfirfP„;
front Archangel for Liverpool, with lofq of bui'l "
boats, the greater part of tier deck kW"
man. 11;(/
The Mary and Betty, taiih teet, from Wexforut,
pool, was totally lost on the ~vtiarf near Stocilw
pilot and two of tlie crew cared. e
FALMOUTH, OCT. 24.—Arrivixi the Active an-
venue cutters, 11 Mil :5 criii(l.,

Mr. KLAN embarked on board th.e, roY:!,
from Liverpool on the 1 th bouou or!'
York. After the vessel was fairly out 100
pen.on appeared amonz the passenger 9,
° try
been until then secreted. He anSirere
scription of Franklin, alias Fletcher,
believed by all on board to be the inalw-'
ing Paper.)

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the Comity of Dc Volt, Esq.

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