The Sun.
London, England, 1827-05-04 00:00:00

THE AGGREGATE MEETING.

(.Abridgetl from the Freeman's Journal of Wednesday).
Yesterday the Aggregate Meeting of the Catholics of
Ireland was held in Clarendon-street Chapel ; and on no
previous occasion have we witnessed so full an attendance.
Sir THOS. ESMONDE, Bart. was called to the Chair.

Mr. O'GORMAN said, he had called them there that
day on a most important occasion, by a requisition more
numerously signed than on any former occasion. They
were called together in consequence of the rejection of their
claims by the House of Commons, on a late discussion, but
great events have since occurred. Gentlemen, said Mr.
O'Gorman, the times have looked badly for us, but I hope
a better day is dawning on unhappy Ireland, and while it
becomes us not on the one hand to be too sanguine, neither
should wt be too desponding. I confess when I see suck a
man as the Duke of Devonshire coming into office, I have
sanguine hopes for the liberation of my c•iuntry.
The Learned SECRETARY then read two letters ; the
one from Lord Kenmore, and the other from Lord Killeen,
apologizing for their absence from the meeting.
The O'CONOR DON rose to propose the first resolu-
tion. We understood him to congratulate the meeting on
the happy and important Changes that had taken place in
the Ministry; he was, he said, fully persuaded, that if the
present Administration continued in office, it would be im-
possible that Ireland could long continue in its present state,
the object of the late Ministry would be directed to turn
out the present members of the Cabinet, and they should
not, therefore, embarrass their friends by any precipitate
measure of petitioning.
Mr. BYRNE of Lisnawilly seconded the motion, which
passed unanimously.
Mr. H. O'CONNOR nest rose, and addressed the meet-
ing at some length in moving the second resolution.

Mr. SHEIL said—Peel is out—Bathurst i 3 out--West-
inorland is out—Goulburn (but he is not worth mention)
is out—Wellington, the bad Irishman, (he was once a
page in the Castle, and acquired a habit of thinking as
trailing as a Lady Lieutenant's gown,) is out—and, thanks
be to God, the hoary champion of every abuse—the vene-
rable supporter of corruption in all its forms—the pious
antagonist of every generous sentiment—the virtuous oppo-
nent of every liberal amelioration—the immaculate senator,
who wept over the ruins of Grampound—Eldon, procras-
tinating, canting, griping, whining, weeping,. ejaculat-
ing, protesting, money-getting and money-keeping El-
don, is out. This, after all, is something. We have
got rid of that csudid gentleman who, for an abridge-
ment of the decalogue, would abridge Ireland of her
liberties. We have got rid of the gaoler who presided
over the captivity of Napoleon, and was so well qualified to
design what Sir Hudson Lowe was so eminently calculated
to execute. We have got rid of the authoritative soldier,
who has proved himself as thankless to his Soverign as he
had been ungrateful to his country, and who had been put
to the right-about-left—and, better than all—better than
the presumption of Wellington,- the narrow-heartedness of
Bathurst, the arrogance of Westmorland, the osten-
tatious manliness and elaborate honesty of Mr. Peel,
we have got rid cf John Lord Eldon's tears.—(Cheers.)
Yet it were doing him wrong not to admit, that once in
his life his sorrows were sincere, when upon a recent oc-
casiom looking the sympathetic Wetherell, and the renegade
Sugden, in the face, his Lordship wept and blubbered a re-
signation. The whole empire rejoices at his fall, and in
that fall much has been already gained by this country.—
Mr. Canning and his friends will not relinquish the de-
termination the moment they have acquired the powers to
do us justice. I have no distrust.in them ; And with re-
spect to the measure which we ought to adopt, I will say
but one word, namely, that we ought not to press our pe-
tition. bat act in such a way as not to harass and embarrass

the men who are still surrounded with difficulties, and who
must be allowed time to mature their good intents to-
wards our cause. They have been long convinced that
Emancipation is requisite to allay our animosities, and
every day affra (.4 a new illuftration of its necessity.—
(Cheers.)—l confess that I look on the recent controversy
which has agitated this city, as likely to be injurious to the
cause of genuine religion; for it has made its most sacred
mysteries a subject of theological chit-chat. I do not
mean to cast the least blame upon Mr. Maguire, who was
actually dragged into the combat by his opponent; on the
contrary, I think that Mr. M. acquitted himself in a man-
ner which reflects the greatest credit upon him ; for al-
though hitherto unknown, and wholly unpractised in public
speaking, he entered the lists with the great prize-fighter in
polemics without dismay, and, deriving a genuine elo-
quence from the consciousness that he spoke the truth,
evinced a decided superhaity over his antagonist. He
was never once betrayed into anger—while his opponent,
by his contumelious charges, indicated the depth to which
his pride had been wounded. He looked at him with the
smile with which Calvin ordered Servetus to the flames.
It was altogether a most fantastic scene. A wandering
dealer in inspiration, a sort of rider to the great manufactories
of religion in the metropolis, takes it into his head that he
can put an end to the dispute which has agitated the world, by
putting down a country Priest, to whom he gives a challenge.
God forbid that I should attempt to detail the various in-
cidents of the theological encounter. I should not, how-
ever, omit to mention that I was greatly edified by the nu-
merous attendance of the loyal portion of the bar, among
whom were to be observed three eminent gentlemen who
had signed the Anti-Catholic petition. under the influence
of premature anticipations. But the person most deserv-
ing of note was Dr. Magee, who exhibited a strange alter-
nation of feeling, for when a blow was made by Mr. Pope
at the Church without a religion,' the Doctor forgot that
thEi gentleman belonged to a religion without a Church,'
while, when the Priest knocked the mitre from the head
of the Establishment, the Doctor exhibited no little uneasi-
ness. Had St. Paul ten, thousand a year ?' said the
Priest. The Doctor gave a start. Had the teachers of
the Gospel two millions of green acres in Palestine ?'--
the Doctor shifted his seat. Show me an authority for
the drawing-room and the levee?'—the Doctor bit his
nails. Show me a text for your equipages, and your
banquets, and your chariots, and your pride, and you.
pomp, and your titles, and your tithes, end your ceases,
and your Church rates, and your fines, and all that system
of grinding taxation, by which the sacerdotal power and
splendour are preserved ? Show me'
was proceeding in this strain of formidable expostula-
tion, when I turned to look at his Grace, and I found
that the Arch—(what shall I call him?) The Arch-
bishop had disappeared.—(Loud cheers.)--I wish that
Mr. Pope would take up this strain of interrogation,
and that, instead of trying to convince Roman Ca-
tholic peasants to adopt the tenets, he would endeavour
to persuade some Protestant Bishops to follow the pre-
cepts of the Gospel. He ought to be tolerably well satis-
fied that after his recent experiment, that he cannot obtain
any very considerable renown by engaging in controver-
sial contentions with our clergy. In order, therefore, that
he may not be left destitute of occupation, I beg leave to
point out to him another and a better path to fame, namely,
the glorious enterprise of teaching certain High Priests of
the Establishment to adopt a more apositolic fashion of life;
and if he feels that there is no ordinary difficulty in the un-
dertaking, he should remember that his merit will be en-
hanced by the obstacles he will have to encounter. Let
him go forth and ascend the steps of his Lordship's palace,
and having gained admission by a knock louder than a
curate's tap, let bins rush at once to the banquet-room,
and throwing open the doors, advance into the midst of the
episcopal festivity. Let him march, with spectral strides,
and when every eye shall have been fixed upon him, let
him, with his deep and sepulchral voice, demand, whether
it was after such a fashion that the Apostles dined—and
shaking his phantom hand at my Lord the Bishop, let
him ask, how, with his pampered paunch,. his bloated
cheek, and his swimming eye, he would dare to appeal
before that God, of whom he professed himself a mi-
nister ? But let not Mr. Pope stop here. After he shall
have uttered his denunciations, and turned the Bishop pale,
let him walk forth, and proceeding to the chamber where
he hears the sound of the harp and the tabor, let him rush
into the centre of the (lance, and after he shall have cast his
lurid eyes around, when the sound of the fiddle shall have
died away—when the astonished musicians shall have stooc
aghast and mute—when the Bishop's wife shall have got
into hysterics, and the Bishop's daughters shall have sought
refuge in the arms of their partners—then let this modern
Isaiah exclaim—" Wee unto the daughters of Zion." It
will be strange if Mr. Pope does not succeed in putting
waltzing, and all ether importations of German attitude,
down. But it is not to the interior of the Pontifical
Palaces that be should confine his efforts for a genuine
Reformation. Let bins go forth into the public streets,
and with all the intrepidity that becomes his heavenly mis-
sion, let him denounce the Anti-Christian abuses that pre-
vail every where around us. Let him stand at the door of
the Kildare-street Club, for example, and inquire of the
Deans, and the Archdeacons, and the Rectors, whether
the . chambers of the indigent, the dungeons of the
captives, the death. beds of the sinful, would not be more
appropriate places for ecclesiastical resort—let him, if
lie tees some wealthy and luxurious Dignitary rolling in
his carriage with his wife and daughters to the Castle,
stop the driver, and inquire whether the way to Heaven is
not too narrow for a coach and fonr.—(Loud cheers.)—
I have, I fear, pursued this topic too far, and intermingled
' too much levity with subject:: of solemn and awful, con-
sideration ; but I own I cannot help regarding Mr. Pope

and his fellow labourers in the new Reformation with a
feeling of combined censure and derision.
The motion before the Chair having passed,
Mr. WYSE, in moving the next resolution, addressed the
meeting in an eloquent and energetic strain ; after which
Mr.O'CONNELL said he neither agreed in the expec-
tations, nor did he participate in the apprehensions of-his
Learned Friend. He thought it was the romantic dispo-
sition of his friend which made him sad on so joyous an
occasion. It was a period big with promise ; did they
not see a Cabinet formed, and of the eleven members who
compose it, nine of them were favourable to Catholic
Emancipation ; and what were the two men who were
opposed to it ; there was the Marquis of Anglesea, and Lord
hex ley, who was rather to be accounted a fraction of a mt n.
The Chancellor was not against them in principle ; he
voted for them once, he voted against them another time
on e pediency, but he refused to pledge himself on principle.
When he he saw these changes, he did hope that something -
would at last lie done for this lovely land, and that he saw the
bright star of promise rising upon Ireland. He did not,
however, quite agree with his friend Mr. O'Connor, he was
not half so loyal as that gentleman, though he was some-
times inclined to be loyal. He (Mr. O'Connell) rejoiced
that Mr. Peel was out of office; Mr. Peel, who had been
ever-praised by himself; he rejoiced . that the pretext of
praising him for an affectation of candour and sincerity
had teem taken away ; he rejoiced, that the opportunity of
arraigning him had been given ;- he was glad, he confessed,
that the reign of the Duke of Wellington . had passed by ;
what was the first use he made of his station in the House -
of Peers? To vote against the friends, the relatives, the
brothers of those who bled for him in the field : he rejoiced
that the Duke of Wellington was done with, and he was sure
every one rejoiced that Lord Eldon had gone by ; Lord '
Eidon who now wept that the power he abused so long had
peen put an end to, and that his money could only accumu-
late at compound interest in future ; he rejoiced that
the administration, of which Lord Eldon was the
head had passed by, and that full time was now
:riven them to preach and to pray ; he rejoieod to see
,rich a man as Scarlett, the ornament e!' a::: lion; in
office; he rejoiced to see Sir James blackintoali the arti-
ficer of his own fortune, and who raised himself -to he •
I Chief Justice, and was now-Judge Advocate. General; he -
rejoiced to see him in office ; he rejoiced to see the mighty
talents of Brougham giving his support to. such men e he
ejoiced to see the Marquis ofaLansdown who never spoke a -
but for the good of his country,"he rejoiced to see him pre- •
tiding over the deitinies' of the empire. His friend, Mr.
Shell, had abused the late controversy, he ought not to
have done so, fir as ha was a poet befpre, he was n-w• a.
theologian, and had nreashed them an excellent sermon.
But did the Catholics deserve Emancipation? That was
he question which he would like M discuss. among the
English nation : he would like to discuss it in a Meeting
pf Protestants, and he would convince all of them who
.vere to be ca,uvinced, that the Catholics did deserve Ewan-
ipation. Every thing had been done to turn them from
:he ancient faith ; the sword and confiscation had been
:Tied, yet have here stood seven million of Catholics. Mr.
O'Connell then entered into a historical review of the
events in England and Ireland since the Reformation, to
,how that while the Protestants, when possessed of power,
had always used it to oppress the Catholics—the Catho-
des, when the power came into their hands, instead
if retaliating, had shown a perfect oblivion of the past.
France might raise a blush on the cheek of England—
mt no (said Mr. O'Connell), England will blush no more
--she will give liberty to Ireland—she will emancipate her
people—and that will be the true reformation. I call on
eou, one and all, to hope that 'the day of freedom is not
tar distant. C,ll ! what a country this would be, if her
people were united—if her legislature was restored—if we
tad an Irish parliament sitting in our metropolis, our no-
oility and gentry living amongst us, and one strong firm
bond of union and reciprocal good will among her people.
For this 1 have lived—for this I have struggled ; it is not
or any triumph over a party ; I disclaim it ; I wish to
gasp every honest Irishman to my heart, who will but
loin with mein making Ireland prosperous and happy.
Mr. LAWLESS said, the meeting had all heard of the -
changes that had taken place, and of the men who had
been turned out, and he joined his friends in ringing the
yells of triumph over their graves.. He rejoiced that they
were gone ; but who were their successors, and what were
the conditions on, which they held office ?—Copley was the
oew Chancellor; young, powerful, talented, and bearing
inveterate animosity to the Catholics ; and who was the
Chancellor? Did they know his power? He was the
Keeper of the King's Conscience. What were the con=
Miens on which the new Ministry held office ? He could
:ell the meeting : it was, that the Catholics should not be
.mancipated.—(No, no.)—He said yes ; he had a proof
of it in the Marquis of Lansdown and Mr. Brougham re-
itsing.to take office; they knew the secrets of the arrange-
ment ; they had, however, done one thing, and he gave
them credit for it; they have said, if you are determined
not to give liberty to Ireland, if you are determined not to
amend the laws there, let the laws at least be administered
which are in being. Lord Wellesley, it was said, was
going, and, an a Member of Parliament expressed it, they
were to have a Protestant Lord Lieutenant here ; for his
part, he thought Lord Wellesley was a very good Pro:
testant ; however,. this showed-the character of the new
Cabinet ; and who were to, be the Councillors of this Pro-
testant Lord Lieutenant? Why, Mr. Joy and Sergeant
Lefroy. When he saw such things, Ire thought they ought
not to be idle ; he would, therefore, propose a resolution,
Ind his resolution was, that a Committee of forty or fifty
he appointed by the present meeting, it might be an. open
Committee, for the purpose of preparing a petition to Par-
liament, and if they saw such an order of things esta-
blished in Ireland as he 'anticipated, then to press at once
for discussion. Those very men who had written to request
that they would not press their question at present, were
aware that the Catholics were not to be anticipated; onetime
they cannot press it because their enemies are in power, an-
other time they cannot press it because their friends were
in power. NOW lie was not inclined to wait until those
honest friends had gone by; another year, perhaps, might
gee &cm in their graves ; if they had their question die--
Utast, d within a month they would have a majority of one
Mildred in the House of Commons, and even the Bench
of Bishops might respect a majority of this kind. When
these resolutions were prepared the day before, he differed
from them, and lie told the gentlemen that he would not be
bound up by forty or fifty persons meeting in a back room ;
he was determined to appeal to the good sense of his coun-
trymen, and he would now redeem his pledge by moving
Iris resolution. The resolution not being seconded,
Mr. KELLY, of Acton, Middlesex, moved the next
resolution, that the Catholics could not accept of any thing
hut unqualified and unconditional emancipation, which
being seconded by Mr. James O'Gorman, pasted with ac-
clamation.
Mr. FITZSIMON moved a resolution, calling on the
Protestants to meet them in the spirit of conciliation, and
with a perfect oblivion of the past, to unite with them for
the good of Ireland. The resolution having passed, a vote
of thanks to the Rev. Gentlemen of the Chapel was moved
and carried ; after which,
The O'CONOR DON was called to the Chair, 'and
hanks being voted to Sir Thomas Esmonde, the Meeting
roke up.

The House of Comthons-i re-assembled last
night. We have given at considerable leng!.i. Mr. Peel's
speech, in explanation Of the circuti-t
his resignation. It will be read with 1,u,1t.1 iLterest. We
ire indebted to a second edition of the SUN for the report
of this speech, which was reported, printed, and received
in this city, in little more than fifteen hours after its de-
livery.—lt has been suggested that Mr. Canning may find
it necessary to resort to a Dissolution. Stich a strong
step, however, is not likely to be taken, unless the .7.sinister
finds his majority small. It nest be recollected that Mr.
Canning will have the support of the Whigs—ei.,! Gren-
ville party—and many of the adherents of the lateiNii•istry ;
nor must we forget that there are Members who have re-
cently undergone warm and expensive contests; some of
these gentlemen would naturally feel a disinclination to
adopt such a course as would induce .theMipister to expose
them to a renewal of those contests. From these and other
considerations, therefore, the idea of a Dissolution seems
somewhat premature. In the House of Lords, the oppo-
sition to the Minister will be very powerful—as the
Landed Interest is generally opposed to him. In anticipa-
tion of a Dissolution; a report has gone forth, that there
will be an opposition both for this city and county.
Worcester Journal of yesterday.
EXPULSION OF THE COURIER.—An occa-
sion has occurred in this town, which, though perhaps not
of much seeming importance, yet as manifesting the state
and the strength of parties here,on the subject of the late
Ministerial Arrangements, is of a very interesting charactec.
A special meeting of the Subscribers to the principal News
Room of this Blase, consisting principally of the Merchantq
and most respectable inhabitants of the town and neighbour,
hood, was convened for the special purpose of turning out
tune copy of the Courier newspaper, and substituting, in
its stead, the St. James's Chronicle, and two copies of the
vctchmar. Of this due notice was given, and on Tues-
day last, (the market day here), the ballot took place. The
importance of the business, as a trial of strength; was fully.
evidenced by the muster on the occasion. It is highly
gratifying to add, that the good old cause prevailed
triumphintly, and may suffice to convince the Courier,
that his boasted unanimity of the press is a veiy different
thiug to that of the ph:ie.—Teed* /ntelligencir4 -

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