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London, England, 1845-02-19 00:00:00

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under their eye, and mighf leave off when they th°,7ot
proper. It was not here as in the cotton mills; tOl
time was free .and if they overworked themselves .
their own or their parents' fault. The Noble of 1r
sought to bring them under the Chinese systeultio
gislation ; he would have inspectors go into every,;ible
and prescribe the hours of toil. He thought the to
Lord meant well, on the whole, but was sometin be
away by mss-statements ; he, Mr. Cobden, w°,11_1„)
very happy, as a practical man, to give the Nolee.l
any information which he might apply for.—(liearie/011
Mr. WAKLEY said that the Right Hon. Gectijoitti
had, as an act of civility towards the Noble Lord, s.itoe
him to bring in his Bill ; but the Right Hon. Gcl3`;„es
had determined to give the Bill the most sire
opposition in his power. ed taskil
Sir JAMES GRAHAM—I studiously avoid
any such declaration. 1'
Mr. WAKLEY—And I as studiously inferred jilt;
hinted the Government had determined to give tiej,d
all the opposition in their power. If the Nob
_octi
proceeded, and the friends of humanity were iTog
in the matter, he anticipated for the Noble Loikl,e
—a splendid victory, and he called upon the Nee'tee
not to be dismayed when he obtained it.—(ll6lritli rb
He should press on his forces after triunapb, !or
same ardour as before, until the object was I'l'lll -`5O
plished. Be could not forget what occurred last 701.0e1
The Noble Lord did not expect success on a
tied
occasion, and seemed dismayed when he t
it. The Honourable Member for Stocitflos
that it was impossible that children of t.ea
four years of age could be eirnP.l°)ttis
the manner stated by the Noble Lord, and in tor
agreed with him ; but the Hon. Member had c° 01.0'
at what ages they were employed, whether at fivetioill;rl
or seven years, and he refraiced from denying oe,
gations which the Noble Lord had made in re°,re,
leave to bring in the Bill. A truly painful delj(ir'
had been given of the toil to which these Peer,ceao,
were devoted ; and was it possible that the Lletl'oidn,,`:
evince so keen a sympathy for foreign sial°,:r)
protect their own infant slaves ?—(Hear, he
Noble Lord had stated that 25,000 children wersi,ceo;
pleyed, and from what he could learn, he was.4.jos,t,
think the system denounced by the Noble -IP the',
system of infant slavery, awl, notwithstandiagreetro:
servations of his Hon. Friend, the Member for kola
he thought the benevolence of the Legislature CObeifl
be better employed than in rescuing Lll°,sB,oo°l';
creatures from such cruelty and thraldom. .1" relvevli
grace to Parliament that they had not striven Terdltej,
this evil, and he wished the Noble ey
the success which his efforts so well
sty
The Noble Lord should, however, extend his here', 0
and inquiries into the agricultural districts, iferitiV,
had found quite as much destitution and sa
elsewhere, and, until he did so, his exertions
be divested of suspicion and one-sidedness.. ,io,l°oo
be very anxious to vote for a Committee to 19,4 rfo
the condition of the rural districts. He eeasweciteA
question, as the Right Hon. Baronet had seipe,itlg,
one of profit; but was profit to be put c,f7..-(PiO
with the lives of thousands of poor childre"
hear.) In Ireland, men performed the salnie,s, vfi,e
calico-printing which was done here by ehihr. stl4e
showed that their services were not essentitioiv,
they were employed because their wages sTs5, the Paes•
garding the question of education, he though' siglit,
greatly to blame for neglecting it so grosslkit ‘Oll
Friend (Mr. Hume) said, educate the men ; "-serefitio9
Wakley) said, educate the children, for yon pcorw,,'
make a bad man a good boy.—(Laughter.) oifio
of the poor of this country, in point of ednea'-goelle6tl
mentable. He entreated the Noble Lord to P'st Veto
his labours, which would produce the grestetilJll4`
to society; and he hoped the Noble Lord riut.°olle;sell,
see the fruits of his benevolent exertions. ;gild s'tv'tet
not be dismayed or discouraged when he ij pull- I
unsuccessful, but must go steadily onwards
the great object he had in view.
Mr. MARK PHILLIPS thought it ivas seppr'•sot
Osg
great importance that this question shouldbe 00) t,
in a candid spirit, and stripped of all appliej,'
prejudice. Theslaves" had beea brator
25,000 children employed in a particel_aq st
manufactures
such
He entered his protest sPrnsrpa„c"o
plication of ch a word, which was wholl,t Yl5
The greater part of the children were brougiogeroarl
factory by their own parents, and worked
their parents pleased. The parents were tbq
bid
concerned in their labour than their rassters-1;or.roiro!,
not bound to work for any specified periew,row Ihe;
a certain quantity of work performed by ',,yerte
No sueh thing—their time was free, rinds
hands, and if they worked long the waste,' at
them. The parent sought to perform A gytere,
of work, and if the energies of the chil%estet"
taxed, the fault was not, he repeated, the
the parent's.`f
Ile
Lord ASHLEY, in replying, said that he merit);f
to thank Hon. Members on both sides °tcleP,,g
for the kindness extended to him. His grefte,oo;olo;
to ameliorate the condition of the children and
t4lli''
the different branches of their manufacttlres' 05 o,ll'
preserving his own principles inviolate, te.,
ready to receive any suggestions advanced wolf 'oclo
Members upon the subject. He was quitLearde ever j
cede anything short of the principles he /fr
e
cated upon this subject. soblv
Mr. LABOUCIIERE hoped that the_i see 0,/
would fix an early day for the secen" ntlnfr,
his measure, as the House and the c,:;.ie to soto
singularly situated, in consequence of the ;1;." tbe, Nf
by the Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary '°"tet,e;iod,
Department and the Government upon this,,,sque,i°'le‘
was surprised that on a question of this na,eetif Fig,"
principles which had been brougbt so freVes thetior.;
the House, and considering the ample DOB opert!ai,lo
Hon. Baronet possessed of inquiring into its J84%4;
considering the liability that lay upon hi° se3 'y
the Factory Commissioners with his advice too,ifei;
ment, he (Mr. La bouchere) thought it streinged so!iro '
least of it, that the Right Hon. Baronet_ bietea,V,
the House and the country some clue to Wee 01°Jtee't
her Majesty's Ministers. Whatever differell, 105 t or,
might exist upon that question, one thing 17-0,"°,0,
tarn, that any postponement of the nn,e,sty's
mystery as to the intentions of her Altne-lweeS:odie'i,
ment, would create and keep alive a feeling hetrreJot
pleyers and the employed, which would belly 11 or `",
ft •oth g•
to both their interests.—(Hear, hear.) -,ittestlacilidl
intention to enter into the merits of the '0 elni %');
argue as to the necessity for this resolutiev cotieotv
regulation of the hours of labour, but ifeetrAt
avoid giving his concurrence to the ea the tsstber
made by the Hon. Member for StockPr' I‘lol,ffif%c:
servations made by the Noble Lord tee the ale err.
Dorsetshire as to the amount of crime ° I ept
turing districts, was rather overcharged' 9 Well/it
lions would seem to infer that those crirae ociO 0 OA
the result of evils
.peculiarly attending thei,:i Out 0.!vo
in the manufacturing districts, and that !";, 13°'611,0
be found at all in the agricultural count's to„
all these faults, he (Mr. Labouchere) wand up2oprirpto
member of his rank and character stallsocl wt iect
House, endeavouring to relieve misery eats to 01%014 f'
crimes, which they all acknowledgeh the ,e Pee
while admiring the spirit in whic ;At wejeas,ltio
was brought before them, he era The risln
milted to doubt the utility c:` okleet,h'st °,t'td
itself, as a preventative to crime. 11'6 ret }, 0' ir
however, was simply to express his .ref obic",tioad
question of this importance—a questl°l clue' ir ere
such intense interest among all classes--; ;Listico
lot
volving in such a degree the principles 04'give
humanity, the Right Hon. Baronet bed nu.„,730t.
1.
rine
decided opinion on the part of the Goveua
Leave was then given to bring in the r
NT° Se' tobe
COMMITTEE TO INQUIRE I-- iiOS,
NAGEMENT OF LIGHTHO' flon• regrp,
Sir GEORGE CLERK requested theetotlorito,
std
for Montrose to postpone for a time meting lordftse
ing the management of lighthouses, ne bring ote
It would be exceedingly inconvenient
that
rola
.0,
that evening, and therefore it was 111. two.
eoeraegiii
Hon. Member to postpone it for a daY.° flea .11f rir
its kn- • t
Mr. HUME had no objection W well iota ti
He had nothing to say on a subject sillow hi° t o°oll'
therefore if the Hon. Baronet would s olds 00
pio fro
duce it, on some Government night, he se ."oele fat
cede to the Right Hon. Baronet's reZse co (it
in the meantime, postpone it till To,_deantsPraeif
the Right Hon. Baronet might, in the goo)
with his colleagues, and let him OR'
could be brought forward on that dal.
The motion was then postponed. „fil.a.v, ototol;
POST-OFFICE B6'1'119'10" on tutisfectise
bi else unstoraoll
Mr. DUNCOMBE, in rising to
of which he had given notice, nattiel'e secret etaiSiirst
and evasive nature of the report oft aid don off
appointed to inquire into the oPe°lllggouse, tion °lO
letters, said that he had promised the a
it the silent of sr
day of the session, that he should e
_e 000 Ito ts
House to the unsatisfactory and evasrtv, coronlefi te+aj
report emanating from the se f" might regretiti
pointed to inquire into what nu__d 110.11,4 o,ej
the iniquity of the Post-office, 9,u,, psi i.regeet',/
much that it should then heeleilre. LlL,c•'et fault
to fulfil the promise he had then ,t the se roe 'te
more that he could not have yes, thsk io la for
an earlier period, but his eonsolabtelee'n" mad( •
ossib.iele,
was not his. The report had. was quite il,,,,t'tter
period of the last session, thatit„, se to it the °we'
him to call the attention of the Jau
e obliged to Calt bid hoe
It was not his fault that he was 1 that reVriould '5 40
lion of the House to it now, forn,nl
course
h a eoe.-e goose ad
satisfactory, the necessity for s the trodectel the,
been avoided. He needed nationewa_ first in. ha oisi
what occurred when the qawar: tha i!otteti
the House. They. were
honour of presenting
f State •00 tter'
and another gentleman coana3ePPtilltatiiietneii°llfigwafetr°shhAttalottritadtheareegirdiottjte.u:Pe ro:
had been opened. That P
printed, and the Secretary osorae
exP'ariatltain
his place to give the House that anted "rcaa'
the matter. He had
had been opened by virtue °be date when rds, deer
fstaastyll;rant g sue /1;t1j lvf;•
but he refused to divulge t ofter Von 0,0 ootee
was issued. A very short_ ti," ,itio
her Pe"--13 polish sie heGS,
the ers hologb"
then
buncombe) presented anet.,,,,e to
who had held a high P?slit_"'__ that his lets_e the terf
Captain Stoltman, complaining
occasion rale tartlet
opened and read, and on
in which he bad originally
the warranconlbelFelec.
Hon. Baronet had screenedt
h Eneseevi felbeePheidn thsi lel 11:
refused to say when (gr. Dona to t.ed to,
as 51"
moved that that petition mould objection :ho Wa soe
case were issued, and be 'be referre_ ralb .11)
Committee of the House. fIoUS
_ioo• a ~et,
elect
ported by 164 and oppose
Not satisfied wand on:0 pre.'
that motion ; but on a dividsizoti, }ijilliSthgltVo7
jority of 56 in his favour. ho Uouset into t'e colfe
the Government influenced t sticrate frof6° o
dto in ,s int
istitu ,2d,
Committee being appointe MajestY .orfore
ber, t° 1 s t g
monly called the Secretie _.,
tice of that departmentof
Clchebrarn h
it
so
whle,..be
authority 3y of e law ld his itry;
workings and the
base 'Coln' le
delay in the delivery of post„
ut, that ixtloi
and report on the expiene'
tot:
rta"vit',os
th_ a ojeo
were met by an araenolne ntteeo
'
should fn a xecres Quo, 11'3