The Sun.
London, England, 1820-10-16 00:00:00

MONDAY, OCTOBER 16, 1820

LONDON JOURNALS.

EXTILICTS.]
FROM THE MORNING PAPERS.

[Morning Chronicle.]

No person can now be at a loss•to understand
the true nature and origin of the PROCEEDINGS in
the Housc of Loans. Every day has torn some-
thing from the veil under which it was endea-
voured to shroud them, till at laSt hardly a shred
has been left, and they now appear before the
world in their native. deformity. We have, from
the beginning, in common with all that is sound
and virtuous in this great, and, we trust, yet
moral nation, lamented that these proceedings
should ever- have disgraced our annals—that a
- base:subserviency on the part of Ministers should
have induced them to inundate' the land with
pollution, to fill the breast of every father with
•alarmt arid to hazard the peace of the country,
for an object by which the wishes of one indi-
vidual alone could possibly be gratified, but from
which nothing but unmixed evil could result to
the people. We have all along, we say, lamented
these things,
.and given expression to what we
felt respecting them. The conduct of the Queen,
situated as she was, ought never to have been
made the subject of inquiry. But having once been
made the subject of a public inquiry, legislative
or judicial, which ever it may be termed, we
cautiously abstained from prcnouncing on that
conduct, till we should have the evidence on
both sides,before us. We cannot be charged
with premature opinions or inflammatory com-
ments. But now that all doubt has been re-
moved by the evidence, it is our duty to pro-
nounce, without reserve or qualification, our firm
conviction that the proceedings against the Queen
have originated in a foul conspiracy, and that
they have been supported by subornation and
perjury.

[Morning .Post.]
There is not the slightest foundation for the
paragraph which appeared in. The Morning Chro-
nith of Saturday, though, strange to say, it is put,
forth as a statement upon the truth of which
" the readers" of the Paper " may confidently
rely."-.—(See our LONDON JOURNALS of Satter-
day.)-1 or this statement, thus so confidently
given, we repeat, there is not the slightest foun-
dation in fact ; and we only wonder that the
writer could have hoped that any of his readers
would credit such grossly preposterous assertions.
His Majesty's Ministers have not been accoci-
panied by any Members of either House of Par-
liament to Windsor Cottage; and we can with
real confidence state, have not in any stage of
the proceedings had -it in contemplation to aban-
don the Bill of Pains and Penalties. 'How, in-
deed, could they ever have entertained such a
notion ? What motive or inducement could they
have to take so foolish and extraordinary a
course ? Has any thing occurred that could in
reason or in possibility have called fOr such a
step ? The Queen's witnesses, interested as they
all are, instead of having proved any thing that
could produce such an effect, have done much in
support of the Bill ; so much, indeed, as to have
confirmed the evidence for the prosecution in
many of its most material points. Even before
the extraordinary contradictions of• Lieutenant
Flynn, and the damning facts reluctantly con-
fessed by Lieutenant Hownam, enough was ad-
mitted, even by her Majesty's dependants and
expectants, to serve as corroboration of the minor
charges, while no part of their evidence went in
the least degree to affect the proofs adduced in
substantiation of the more grave and heavy alle-
gations. upon which the. Bill in question seems to
be firmly founded. But had none of these cir-
cumstances occurred, nothing would have pre-
vented the inquiry from going on regularly to its.
conclusion ; and once more we repeat, that his
Majesty's Ministers have never, for a single in-
stout, had it in contemplation to abandon a pro-
ceeding deemed alike necessary for the honour
of the Nation and the dignity of the Crown.

[New Times.]
THE QUEEN.-. 4 is our most deep 'and heart-
felt wish, that the House of Lords may act, on
this great occasion, with that gravity and firm-
ness, which will secure to them the gratitude and
admiration of
.future ages. Above all things, let
them banish from their deliberations'all appear-
mice of faction. They amperforming a solemn duty
to the nation, they are performing it in the face
of all Europe; and they•may tic assured, that if
they attempt to convert it into • vlrugglefor place
andpower, they will cover themselves %vith univer-
sal obloquy and contempt. it has been said, that
the present proceeding " outrages Public feeling,
and disgraces both the House and the country."
They who :cold such language seem to be of
that dull intellect, -which cannot distinguish be_
tween substance and accident, between the es-
sential character of the proceeding and its 'at-
•tendant circumstances. Many and painful are
the shocks given to public feeling by the tfis-
play of human -turpitude in all Courts of Law
•but was it ever befm'e heard that the atrocity
of the crime was urged as: a reason to stifle
the investigation ? Does the infamy of the _ cul-
prit fly off from himself and stick to the. Judge?
Public feeling has, indeed, been outraged by the
details of that.conduct, -wlslich is imputed to the
Queen, by her own witnesses; but it would be in-
finitely more outraged; if with such details un-

contradicted, the Lords could for one moment
hesitate to pronounce sentence on the crime.
We speak not now of Italian witnesses, we
for the moment pia out of sight every syl-
lable of the evidence adduced in support of
the Bill. The Queen's own witnesses have made
out a case against her of extravagant partiality
for her footman, of strange :familiarity with him,
of gross indecency, and lastly, of full and com-
plette opportunity to consummate the criminal act.
W e deny not that new proofs may shake or alter
the case. We do not presume to pronounce on the
Queen's guilt before those proofs are adduced ;
but we say that.no other woman in England could
bold up her head in an English Court, before an
English judge or Jury, to deny the fact of adul-
tery in the -face of 'such a. body of evidence as
the proceeding in its present state exhibits. Is
any - body So 4,i-clot-ant of the national character
of Englishmen and Englishwomen as to believe
that they . could consent to stifle, iu the case
of a Queen, that promulged and open shame
Which would drive any other .female from so-
ciety ? No, so long as the Whole painful busi-
ness lay concealed in obscurity, or was only di-
vulged by vague and uncertain rumour, the mo-
rals of the country would have been best pro-
vided for by arrangements calculated to suppress
disclosure and discussion. But now that a
distinct picture of the Queen's conduct has
been held up to the eyes .or - the world, si-
lence and secrecy are no longer practicable,
justice asserts its rights, and- the honour of
our wives and daughters must be vindicated.
We regret to observe it said, .that certain Peers
have adopted the violence of Advocates, and
have appealed to the Counsel at the bar for
advice as to the questions that were or were
not proper to be put to the witnesses. It is
most obvious that this sort of conduct must
at once degrade the august tribunal in public
estimation, and render it incompetent to the
discharge of its high and important functions.—
The Lords are in truth sitting as Judges, and
should maintain all the reserve, the gravity, the
impartiality of the judicial character. 'A time will
come when the whole case will be'debated as the
ground of a legislative measure ; but till then,
in our hunible opinion,, nothing can be more dis-
tant frolii the line of conduct which ought to he
observed, than violent declamations on the pro-
ceeding in general, remarks on the character --nd
conduct of the witnesses, premature assumptions
of bribery and conspiracy ; in short, the substi-
tution of angry debate for an investigation, which
should be perfectly patient, and, in the words o
our immortal Bard," modest as Justice."

From the LONDON GAZETTE of Oct. 14.

. •
At the Court at Carlton-house, the 10th of October, Iseci,
present, the King's Most ,Excellent Majesty in Council, this
day the Right Honourable Sir Gore Ouseley, Bart., was, by
his Majesty's command, sworn of his M,jetly's Most Ho-
nourable Privy Council, and took his place at the Board
accordingly.

BANKRUPTCI E`i SUPERSEDED.
T. Gilson, Nottingham, lacemau—W. Lardhan►, Great Tar
mouth, coach-master.

BANKRUP
H. Thornton, Rood•lane, upholder, to surrender Oct. 24,
31, Nor. 25, at Guildhall. Solicitor, Mr. Warrand, Mark-lane.
G. Clarice, St. John' -street, Ckrkenwell, s:.,einalier, Oct.
29, Nov. 4. 25, at Guildhall. Solicitor, Mr. Beetholtne,
Castle-street, Holborn.
W. Reynolds, of the ship Orient, master-mariner, Oct. 24,
31, Nor. 3.5, at Guildhall. Solicitors, Messrs. Willis, Clarke,
and IYatson, Warliford-court, Throgruorton -street.
J. Thortlas and .1. Cabell, Oxford-street, linen-drapers,
Oct. 28, Nov. 7, 25, at Guildhall. Solicitor, Mr. Hurst,
Milk-street, Cheripside.
smith, jun. Itaiusgate, builder, Oct. 21, 31, Nov. 25, at
Solicitor, Mr. Patten, tiatton•garden.
'l'. Bidwith, flagtzin:o.cood, Shropshire, farmer, Oct. 30, 81.
Nor. 25, at the Wheat Shvaf-inn,.Bewdler, Worerstershire.
Solicitor, Mr. Griffiths, Southatopton-buildings, Chancery-
lane.

'l'. Young, Cheltenbani, fishmonger, Oct. 27, 29, Nov: 25,
at the 13e11-inn, Cheltenham. Solicitor, Mr. Williams, Bed
Lion-square.
G. Halt, Cheltenham, stone-mason, Nov. 1,2, 25, at the.
Plough hotel, Cheltenham. Solicitor, Mr. Meredith, Lin-
coln's-inn, New-square.
J. Harris and C; Cooper, Bristol, wool and 'cloth factors,
Oct. 25, 25, Nov. 25, at the Rummer-tavern, Brisrol. Soli-
citors, Messrs, Alexander and Holmr, New-ion.
• J.
,Willson, Swanton-Morley, Norfolk, farmer, Oct. 28,
Nov. 4.,25, at Guildhall. Solicitors, Messrs. Stocker, Daw-
son; and Herrioghart, Boswell-court.
[Military Promotions, Sze. to-morrow.]

Last night au Austrian Courier was dispatched
from Chafidos House by Mr. de NIEMAN, with
dispatches for the Court of Vienna.

Yesterdara•Spanish Courier arrived at the re-
sidence of the Duke de Fat As, in Portland-place,
with dispatches from the Court of Madrid.
The Cambrian, 48, Captain W. lIA-mit.-roir,
C. 13. is
.ordered to Portsmouth from Plymouth ;
lihe is to be fitted to take Lord STRINGFORD, Am-
bassador, Co Constarktinople.
Yesterday morning, at eight o'clock, the Duke
of Yalu( attended divine service at the Chapel
Royal, St. James's. Yesterday the Duke and
Duchess of GLOUCESTER attended divine service
at St. George's Church, Hanover-sqtrare.

' • 13111TH.
On the 12th instant, at Farley-hall, Staffordshire, the Lad,
of Robert 8111, ISsrl., fl,ttristrr•at-hnr, of a iiatt4titer,

MARRIED. •
On Satm•clay last, at. !•4reathant ('harsh, (7a;ltain Pbi
li
Ripley,vf the Honnuiable East-Indio Coortity's mervietot
Mary Ann, eldust danghttr of Willi: ',
m N,tifige 1 ,
of
11'',itoisworth. At the same time, Joh?) ItltrtnhUl, Rgq.
02 ClaptomP-co'iminti, t.) Sophia F3arriet, :West daughter
the late John Richard Riploy, 'Sig., of the saint iil3t„.

DIED.
On the Rtb inst. John Hughes, Esq. of Mari:en Ash, Ongnr,
E,,ex, colonel i,ft he sth Essex tmeEd
On Friday list, at her Brothel's huu3e, iu Yin li-pinee, Miss
Isabella Douglas.
On the tlth in3t. aged 14, Miss Ann Stere.nSon, only sur-
vivltlE ebild of Mrs. Stevenson, of Kentish:town.

[PRICE SEVENPENCE

SECON D EDITION,

SUN-OFFICE, Half-past Four,
After so!ne further conversation PoMI was

again called in, and underwent a long cross-exa-
-

urination, but which did not state, in any thing

material, his evidence in chief. Anotficr

Italian was then called for the purpose Gi

proving that be bad also, been offered

money by RASTELLI if he would becoui‘

an 'evidence against the QUEEN. I. a TIOS-

tion put to him, an objection was taken by tbe.

SOLICITOR-GENERAL, which gave rise to a dir-

cession that lasted till a quarter past fouro'clock,

when the House adjourned till to ii3o,row

morning.