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London, England, 1842-03-19 00:00:00

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sure, whatever might be the feelings of the Hon. Gentleman..
and of those who acted with him, that the feeling of the coun
( Hear, hear.)
try was decidedly against the re-imposition of those ta.xes.o--n,
for a period of difficulty and distress, when it would be. .ecwas
sary .to call forth every exertion, he thought
it
able
It they were o reserve in their armoury werap
es,
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Honour
better to reserve those taxes which the
Gentleman wished to impose, than to ret,l the
property tax for a period of danger and difficulty. J.':
Hon. Gentleman says that a property tax, under no cirvictimast'
stances, ought to be imposed except in a time of war. of .
.s.-,
was the difference between peace and war as to the necessity
_ ;s sa
imposing taxation ? They imposed taxation, not merelyanec,,
cause they were at war, but because that iu war there we
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d fficulty of raising a revenue, because they were involved rias,--s:"1_11
debt, and wanted to extricate themselves from the d"°11:1u1-";t17-o
which they stood. Were they not now precisely in thia_ k _
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ro
tion ?-( Cheers.) Had they not gone on year after year,.P°r_. ::•-".-
rowing during a nominal peace, but a real war-(
real war as far as the effect on the finances of the country
icettld,
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indicate it? If the Right Hon. Gentleman required the ll_
_.,,
nieal name of war to justify him-in imposing a properts tZ
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WHOeUllvdoualdskthhelirseteothlaotokweatwethree
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ther glorious to our arms, as in China, or disastr°lll9l-o„,!o4ssil
some other portions of the East, yet produced the effecet oaddi., : 10
tailing upon the country the necessity of providing f for coes,..se,
tional expenses, and he felt assured that no one wouldss for
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moment, consent to let the glory of England• be tarrnisionurteu v.: sow
want of funds to support it. The Right 0° II anstsssi)
Gentleman said that the income tax would press uneqhatrY) the,,,,,aett
unfairly on different classes. Why, on his wq dow°,,,q.) had. snee'
House that evening, he (the Chancellor of the Eiebecla"-i,egh), leg
seen a string of gentlemen walking with placards---(" t"iiissa.,i /10
-he did not, of course, mean Hon. Gentlemen-(C°,°.squ.: „sr:"
laughter)-and on those placards were inscribed, " -1.14'11-ighit
sition, no injustice, no inequality of taxation ;" and t,'" s un-
Hon. Genth man had said that it was an unequal arm ' nuitti
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just tax. He (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) wI
it vas
sensible that taxation was a necessary evil. as a
impossible to devise a tax which would not preo_a he
heavy burden upon some class of the community'
tal.; vas
would not take upon himself to say that a proPertY 11 „the
exempt from those objections which were applicable to aid they
taxes. Let them look at the taxes on consumption. ) r and
operate equally ? Did they press equally on the high ea that
on the lower orders of society ? Let it be recolleetesurirs,,,
there were articles which were considered mere', ats ,0 g oat
by the upper orders, but which were actually necessarilt°7-flon,eo
the lower orders. All that had been said by the Rig" e oUtkail,
Gentleman about the iniquisitorial and vexatious nat°„rt v-ith
property tax had been said with equal force, although rts'ea,dons /id)
equal eloquence, by many litu. Members on former °casioo of --:',
against the Excise ; and it would be said on every re%otet to
every tax b those individuals on whom it might be a n, the -s''
prsss.-( Hear.) In brieging forward this propositioettities:kio
Government had not been insensible to the diffigeas,), di
that they would have to encounter.-(Cries of '' ' ow/ ;.011
They knew that by striking at the property of the, c, then' .79s
they were raising a strong feeling in the country aga,,`„`,ss that • '
selves, but they knew enough of the country, to ","",,, was si f
whatever might be the strength of that feeling, t"e;eouglt s-
enough of respect left for the -honour of the ceuntry, toot ~
of affection for the institutions of the country, and her.,..tong, '
desire to uphold them to overcome the feeling, howest- of its ' '
which might be entertained apinst the tax on accouh coo- :
inequality---4 question which would be better discussed in ,if
mit tee-or against the manner in which it was to be la, and sti
a manner which would be hereafter proposed, discuss' lion• se
it might be, amended.-( Hear, hear.) The °et in tb° .''''
Gentleman also, it appeared, objected to the alterations does s;
tariff, and said that duties had been reduced without had oas, 0
tion of any principle. The Right Hon. Gentleman hira„,dirigi'f'.
a jocular allusion to the first article hi the tariff as 81'.; OW 'l!'
specimen of the conduct of the Government. Now, tareer, IS
cipic which the Government had adopted was to e" wait/ :,;'
by a great relaxation in the protecting duties, to give a ono' "
fur the introduction of many articles of great use to tbesibited, •
factures of the country which had been in effect pron.,.r- an
e ~
and thus to.endeaveur to promote the interests of our trade
commerce, by facilitating our intercourse with foteilr.„, had,
(Cheers.) It was certainly true that a di,tinct4fesr,/!'
been made in favour of our colonial possessions.--1-aistantv
He thought that when out fellow-countrymen went to e 0054
Farts of the world and established possessions, and in sltly the • i
tounded empires in a manner calculated to benefit gre...,,, 0.
mother country, that it was our duty to give to them, "r Dori
1,,,m-subjects, the same advantages which we claimed fooddid
selves against the introduction of foreign merchandise', was the .'
not pretend to say that the tariff was perfect, but 0911,sosal
principle upon which the Government had acted in,P7ebi
it. The Hon. Gentleman had alluded to the,loPliferati°'
would be inflicted on the cork cutters by the proposed* had not
in the tariff. He (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) the sob'
yet received a deputation from the cork-cutters on one la,
ject, although he had appointed to receive eater Pt
the course of a few days, and therefore he would not
tiearli hat.
present into a discussion upon the merits of that goes 0001"
he would ask how it happened that the Right Hon. Ge!, tier',
had paid so little regard to the interests of the orka-rieo'
last year, when he had proposed his alterations in the t Ito ilit!!,"
which occasion a deputation of the cork-cutters had apPlit.'' jcolE,
(the Chancellor of the Exchequer Right the subject, and "ae (Mrlf
Baring)
of the manner in which theg Hon. Genderea-aainwe.
Baring) had refused to pay any attention to their Os:.,
cornlb;ect "
The Right Hon. Gentleman had not referred to the saca'sseoPl.••
tobacco. But who was it that thought of giv'vg ,jteetl
grown in all the possessions of the Crown a further ahe h.:
over the tobacco grown in foreign countries ? 1" 0 the,
thought of that ? Why, they had not long since laic', rill 1
table of that House a petition most respectably signe"h:h,t'l
East India Company, staling in the strongest terms the otos
ship which they sustained from not being put " t"we,t2tl;
footing .as regarded their productions with these jotil
hemisphere. They were told of the hardship,,the ,aced 00 th't
sustained from not having their sugar and ruin gadciees;..oetl'ells.ll,
same footing as similar commodities in the West
was the course which the Government took upon tb a 1,
sion? Why. they referred the petition to a Conlinitte4l , rd.
k
Committee framed a Report, and the Government . ~,. 1.,
came forward with a measure to equalise the duties ii:4'itafs.,
hemispheres.-( Hear, hear.) They acted upon the "„,;.tbets,
of encouraging the trade of the East Indies, and gi'.- is tni
every facility foe the transfer of their commoditieabich nss-,..
country. Tobacco was one of the very articles, (
0 ,ettra
been referred to the Committee in question; and t." life te
ment, acting on the general principle of eneourtaginthget le4o
of the East Indies, made tobacco one, Of ' is'aV,, i
objects in their new scheme. That steP rs ft :
doubt most important to the interests °49'
,'„,,
and he, for one, should never be ashamed of ba, rt 4 A 0 ••
petition of this portion of the great empire, to which to' . .
sarily, from a superiority of our manufactures, hrt4rl,'s
distress and misery. He should not regret that/n, IR,lt.
leased their tobacco from the duty, and had given,
portunity of sending that commodity to this coati
i
hoped that, by encouraging the growth of other , - fo_ h
that which had been the subject of our dispute 'Ai"' ssfeSe. „II
should enable them to abstain from growing those art.'( sal,
had involved us in positions of difficulty and,danger',":to o,lfoar
He thought he had now touched on most of the pow7d.
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the Right Honourable Gentleman had 'Over- erciFier,
the • e -
should have occasion, ,no doubt, in to Ilsr
of the discussion on which they were about mei,' 0 •
to trouble the House on matters connected` with the P 01 it . .
tax which had been propoaed for their consideration:oo3 to
explain, in common with his colleagues, the mode it'oel4 el '
was proposed to mitt, and to render it as little ohe eetort .
the people as could be consistent with the levy- °I, t, of fgeges
which was required. The House, however, linus;',„;" betlsel
the result of this preliminary debate, that the quest,'-ther iors
the Right Hon. Gentleman and himself was, 11.°e,11, ',e' , •
should lay a tax on property, and sinoultane°°-etaetr or
relief to labouring commerce, to labouring masinanisil"'less
to suffering people, and to an agitated corn-oeso air
whether they should resort to taxes which, tote on di,
burdensome on the higher orders, would, pr.e9s ,11theY i'felt,
lower, would be less heard of in the circle to whit` les' se'
vidually moved, but would not on that account Lithe r:o.
and inflict less injury on the permanent interests % Mesita',.
munity.-(Hear.) He could seriously say that no in % cif 51e'
bonred more than he had to avoid having recourse to. oePop,
which would be considered by many a burdensorail't eiree to '
but it was his sineere conviction that under the Presseisoba‘rfsre
stances-encumbered with a debt which we must "to t'"iba'..
maintain receipts equal to expendithre; with a view, hoc's,' ,
servation of the empire abroad and our character oitleee,`tsi9
l'
conceived that it was necessary to successfully ,:v-atotei,
that he should give his best exertions to brill lOcot'veeh-
particular measure, and he trusted that, whatever thersees
ences might result, it would ultimately producei. the
,1° of
dence of the world at large, in the energies e od:,,liyi
ple, and in the. sacrifices which the bigher,hit es,' the
classes were willing' to make to remedy the Pre-stiol!'
the country, and to elevate the character of our °- the
ht
eyes of every country in the wor'd. 1, o'4los
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Lord HOWICK commenced by saying that -se ecte. Coos'
attention of the House would be more properly' i'''t jo a bier'
details of the measure proposed by the Governinen.eor °the,'
mittee of Ways and gleans, and there were pa!t,' before, Adi
tions to it which he would urge at such a time; Put,at grejley
came to a detailed discussion it seemed to him '''s,ol Pei P_Ae
vantae miht arise from a discussion on the gen'n,sen'torts*
the financial arrangements of her Majesty's Gor'r-re l're' the
• thought the House and the country would be 01°.,site° oir
to enter the debate, and the particular questionto ea' I),"
general principles of the meaanra before ',bed bet4e,ell;
he
teiceonawlioti.uot
Cussed, and discussed in the manner it, eager,'n'„ersibie'
his Right Honourable Friend. T.he Right tioy t,
tleman opposite (the Chancellor et hen 0,40 -; id' t.'-
had said, that if the measure now before the ittett e polie,ya
culated to be onerous to the country, the bleoe ea tO t!? „a 53.1
persons who now stood around him. Be referre $ h $ ly dal
of the late Government during the last four Ye,er slif P/,o'.
that measures should have been earlier taken ;ma' I.l.eio`oe II .
exigencies of the country. That might be what;
.eils ° a per'
Howiek) would not say a word in defence of inelose'
the late Government, though he had the honours'sethtei, erg t°
tion of that time, of being himself a member n-esecs °,,,,,' ant tt',.
ment,
purposes
pl eeoHaddst eeetsfihh"enea.
dnt oiudegn.oo
toßnt
h,uiatnnkwdhi ftiol
wise
, insfoeo trt pot rh°aerbi:stale;ni.
iOt
the lb: fps
dignaott
eisee,:;orro.r;6l
of the House by a discussion, when great
were concerned, as to whether certain liesrsesse.-:-, c, rig!'
for two or three years judiciously or the reth-ey'werebircow:
ferththeelaPtliert,l3o6,,ten;:nurree'eelat",
What they had to consider was not whether e eetho it thew
two or three years ago, but what was the nat°',e whiehtho snhs,
stances in which they were placell?
I he e°uration°f ' e Oig f
became there to assume was the serious considerr. NeV. the ettio,:,
ject, and to that alone should he, address hirortieteent the el,
Hon. Baronet opposite, in his very able (Lord slow;cese.,!),
a:
fte:, irv:aheviielel righting tein a s blamings u e
night, condemned in language which he not to rr, rd Psi
mined was not too strong, that they
ehtdebt. Ile (a °lte sv,
any course by which they could accumulate
rottet,.an
might,o,
entirely concurred with the Right -gnus lee which „saint,'
prepared for one to acquiesce in any
countrysacrls....to._,,et
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necessary to maintain the honour of the
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our necessary es..ablishment, civil and mil • ~„ entirelY tto 1',,,,
so far e make 00 phi,
avoid any augmentation of debt.
If i, could rna he
red with the Right Hon. Baronet. ii "e - Which. thongo
(Lo d Howcik) that these trae,s newiek)
_e tese,
posed, objectionable as he (Lor4 taxes lye' sevens
if he could make out that thsee
_,,,,cieet ' coo, s
. use a “"'", 1 he ek s'
indispensable in order to prod debt--4 goo' 08
in order to avoid any increase 0 ,_,a (Lora . „otos,
make out this, he was prepared to take_
.1._,. oessociin it odae
measure of responsibility as a member of tna'
then ther ban'i'lg "11 o'l
for the proposal. But he thought, on in irnP°s` ,tY 'TS
be admitted that they were not justifie a necera ,litoo
ersource9 re cal t•
burdens of this description on the people unless j
hea tba.
cause were made out. If there were oth
„,s so are Ja.
et roe_ 0, ~ s_ et,
revenue could be raised-if without pre-ine e „0
their constituents they found other ineaun7seds...if o_loo j
revenue which our honour and safety reqt.trirg that ey. str9
be done they were not justified in adoP '
_ere eer3:s,„ t_,
which no Mon. Member would deny there
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objections. But in examining the 913 suv tto estoace, ita
e first r 0
revenue he would ask the Right Hon. aroolle
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0,
ease. He (Sir R. Peel) told them in ts Gentles,f 0f,,,a/'
reference to the measure of the Right tao" s aotircs'ett, tom.
Member for Portsmouth), of obtaining vair'sse opin,4o r:d
come, and upon which the House held an eavfia not ~,,0 eij,
if there had been a fixed duty on corn, it Irma ttp,iBco•
lieved the people. He (Lord Howick) was ;I°,l front ta!_al ',O
this subject again, but after what had fan!
_, achlre,7:i et
~j
Hon. Gentleman opposite, who had Jubs'bsessatle.l ,tsc4
`House, it was imcossible to avoid one or. tw0r,...w.) ii,‘..o etfli
the subject. Hi; Right Hon. "item_ •.,i, • Pf„,noti, 1400
had been URr- tbe I
that if last year a fixed duty of Bs. .___, to
would have been, that instead of 4005