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London, England, 1829-03-13 00:00:00

COURT OF COMMON COUNCIL.

A Court of Common Council was held yesterday at
Guildhall.

The following letter from Mr. Secretary Peel was rrid,
and ordered to be entered on the journals : _

-"
Whitehall, Mareh 4.

" My Lord,—l have derived the utmost satisfaction
from the resolution of the Common Connell of the City of
London, communicated to me by your Lordship.
" It is most gratifying to me to learn that a body so dis-
tinguished for its intelligence and independence, has done
ample and immediate justice to the motives by which I
have been influenced in the execution of a great public
trust, under circumstances of nn ordinary difficulty.
" The freedom of the City of London is in itself, and
at all times, a great
_distinction, and a high reward for
public service.

" But it is conferred upon me in a manner under cir-
cumstances which give to it a peculiar value.
" It is the expression of a generous confidente, that I
would not have been a party to the measures which I have
advised in concurrence with the Duke of Wellington, and
the other Ministers of the Crown, unless I bad believed
them to be essential to the welfare of the empire, and con-
ducive to the true interests of thcee Establishments in
Church and State, which ever have been, and ever will
be, the abject of my especial concern.
" I shall receive this mark of esteem from the first city
of the world with every sentiment of gratitude and pride.
" I may be permitted to assure your Lordship that the
kind manner in which you have communicated to me the
resolution of the Common Council, and hare intimated to
me that it is in entire accordance with your own senti-
ments, enhances in a high degree the satisfaction which I
have derived from it. I have the honour to be, my Lord,
your most obedient anl faithful servant,
(Signed) " ROBERT PEEL
" The Right Hon. the Lord Mayor, lee.

Mr. Taylor's motion for a reference to a Committee to
inquire as to the powers and duties of the Common Coun-
cilmen, with regard to the licensing of victuallers, was,
after come discussion, withdrawn, on an understanding
that the subject should, at the next Court, be brought for-
ward in a different form.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

OtAt t ILUnDEL—(LAST NIGHT.)

The LORD CHANCELLOR took his sc at rite
past Five o'Clock.

Lord AUCKLAND gave notice that the 11fargnis of
tangddiVile; iflto het ab!e to attend to-night, would
fre6i;:ii a i;eitidii tri:i44'irlt,;47 flee ettetltilies t..f Ireland,
praying for the removal of

Pli:t as the Noble Lord em:hided the Marquis of
Lansdowne entered the House, which occasioned a great
laugh.]
The Marquis of ANOLESEA presented petitions from
the Protegtanta of St: James's parish, Dublin ; from the
iNWOr OlilVray ; from the Catholics
of Longford, several ether peti-
tions, to the amount of 28—all praying for ieliet id thh
Roman Catholics. The Noble Marquis also presented
four petitions for the repeal of the Subletting Act.
The Marquis of BRISTOL presented a petition from
gtowniarlot,. In fectir of the Catholics.
Earl PITXWIt,LIANI presented Ft:Zit:one from Don-
ettiter gild Poole to 4ht same effect:
Tht Marqviii of DOWNSHIRE presented a tiBition
from the Catholics of the cotinty praying their
Lordships to review the Catholic laws. It was agfted td
at a very numerous meeting at Newry, and was signed by
upwards of 9,000 persons. The Noble Marquis also pre-
sented a petitkin from the county of Antrim signed by
3,000 persons, together with three othete ftom parishes in
The hart of 'WICKLOW presented petitions from the
Catholics of Dthiertnilon and Wisklo*i praying for eman-
cipation.
Lord PLUNKET presented petitions from Baltimor(;,
from Milltown, Castletown, and Killgare, in the county
of Westmeath, in favour of the Catholics.

Lord KING presented a petition from Bath, praying for
tellef of the Catholics; from the society of Quakers near
Cockermouth ; from Houiton, Devon ; from Guildford,
Surrey; from Glastonbury, Somerset; and Blackburn, Lau.
cashire, to the same effect. .

The Earl of CARNARVON presented a petition
from Rockwood Chapel, Norwich, praying for relief to
the Catholics; and several others from different parts of
the county to a like effect.
The Duke of RICHMOND presented two petitions
from the county of York, against the Catholic claims.
Lord DIOUNTCASHEL presented a petition from
the Ministers, Elders, and Presbyters of the county of
Antrim against the Catholic claims. He had heard that
nicety-nine Presbyterians out of a hundred, in the North
of Ireland, were opposed to Emancipation. The Noble Lord
then proceeded to notice an advertisement in a Cork Paper,
containing certain resolutions relative to the dissolution of
the Catholic Association. This would distinctly prove that
these agitators were not satisfied. The Noble Lord verily
believed that these measures would only make things worse,
and for his own part he had made up his miad to pass the
rest of his life in peace and quiet. (Great laughter.)
Lord GOSFORD entirely disagreed with the Noble
Lord.

The Marquis of DOWNSHIRE knew those who de-
clared that there was a large proportion of the Protestants
of Ireland who were desirous that the question should be
settled, as it was now about to be done.

Lord MOUNTCASHEL presented several other peti-
tions to the same effect.
The Earl of DuntAr and the Earl of FAIAROUTH then
presented themselves at the table.
Earl DUDLEY.—I have only one petition to present,
and, probably, as the Noble Earl opposite has several, he
will allow me to present mine now ?

The Earl of FALMOUTII acceded.
The Earl of DUDLEY then presented a petition in fa-
vour of Catholic Emancipation from Wolverhampton.
Lord FALMOUTH presented (in the absence of Lord
Winchilsea) eleven petitions from parishes in the county
of Kent, against further concessions ; another from the
Protestant Dissenters of Leicester, and from a pariah in
Northamptonshire, to the same effect.
Lord DARNLEY presented a petition from Cranbrook
in favour of the claims. The Noble Lard read a latter
stating that a petition had been got up to the contrary
effect in the most improper way, and which he supposed
WAS one of the petitions the Noble Lord had presented wlso
had just sat down.
Lord FALMOUTH presented three petitions from the
county of Cornwall, signed by upwards of 10,000, against
the Catholic Claims.

Lord CARLISLE presented a petition from the Clergy
and Gentry of Beverley in favour of the Catholic Claims.
Lord ROSSLYN gave notice, that he should move, to-
morrow, that for the future Noble Lords who had peeitions
to present should enter their names end their petitions with
the clerk of the Hones, and that they should be brought for-
ward in rotation, by being called upon by the clerk.
The Duke of NEWCASTLE on rising to present seve-
ral petitions against Catholic Emancipation, observed (he
was standing on wLat is called the Opposition side of the
House) that the Noble Lords who were seated by him
should go on the Ministerial side, inasmuch as they sup-
ported his Majesty's Government, and then those Peers
who, like himself, were opposed could take their places.—
(A laugh.)—The Noble Duke presented a petition from a
place in the county of Lincoln, which, ha said, bad been
signed by every man in the parish excepting two—a pen-
sioner, who was afraid to sign it, and a man with no re-
ligion at all.—(Laughter. )_.--With respect to the pensioner,
he understood that an order had been issued prohibiting
pensioners from signing petitions against Catholic Eman-
cipation.
The Duke of WELLINGTON—Namt the depart-
ment ?

The Duke of NEWCASTLE—I do not knew it.
The Duke of WELLINGTON—Haye you seen the
order ?

The Duke of NEWCASTLE—No, I have not. Is it
true?

The Duke of WELLINGTON—No.--(A laugh.)
The Duke of NEWCASTLE then presented several
other petitions against concession.
Lord ELDON presented a pttition against further con-
cessions to the Roman Catholics, front St. John's, in the
county of Cumberland ; from Creeth, Merionethshire;
from Kisdale, in the county of Bedford; from Elmeamere,
Salop; from Wimberminster, Dorsetahire ; from Crick, in
the county of Northampton ; from Cumberland ; from
Polstead, in the county of Suffolk ; from Ashton-under.
Line, Lancashire ; and from Catherine-street, Glasgow.
He (Lord Eldon) took the opportunity of saying, on pre-
senting this petition, that all the petitions front Scotland
complained of a clause in the present Bill, repealing a
clause in the Act of Union which made it au essential part
of the articles that no Papist should be an elector, or a
person elected to serve in Parliament. His Lordship also
presented petitions from Hawarden, in the county of Flint ;
from Dumbarton ; from the six eorporated trades of
Kircudbright; from Stanstead, in Suffolk; from Loss,
in the county of Derby; front Stansgate ; Stapleton; Mel-
bourne ; All Saints, Poplar Painswick, Gloucestershire ;
the Chapelry of Morton, Shropshire ; Kilsby, Northamp-
tonshire ; and Stratford-upon-Avon.
Lord HADDINGTON observed, that the Noble and
Learned Lord had described the prohibition of Papists to
elect, or be elected, as an essential part of the articles of
Union. It was no further a part of the Act of Union
than as it went to determine the qualification of persons to
elect. It was not put in connection with any provision
for the preservation of the Presbyterian Church of Scot-
land.

The Earl of ELDON said he thought this was not the
opportunity for saying a word on the subject; but finding
in the petitions from Scotland heartfelt uneasiness on the
subject, and a strong- desire that some representations
should be made to their Lordships, he thought it his duty
to make that representation, not meaning himself to say
any thing further. His Lordship also presented petitions
from Stanniog, Northamptonshire ; from Sutton, in the
East Riding of York; from St. Mary, Whitechapel ; from
Middle and Southern Holderness, in the county of York;
from the Minister and Elders of the Established Church at
Glasgow ; and from Guilford, Surrey.
Lord KING observed that he had also presented a peti-
tion from Guilford. The petitior now presented, very pro-
perly represented itself to be the petition of the neighbour-
hood. It was signed by 700 individuals, 200 only of
whom resided in the town. The petitioners hail improved
upon 'tome doctrines which had been laid down in the
Houses; and they affirmed that, if the King gave his as-
sent to the proposed Bill, he would forfeit his right to the
Crown. He hoped that they bad not put into (heir peti-
tion any of that nonsense which he had seen in another pe-
tition, where, amongst other thing►, it was stated that
" God was not a metaphysical abstraction."
The Earl of ELDON—The Noble Lord has so many
statements to make like those he has just made, that I can-
not help thinking he has been furnished with materials for
traducing every petition which is presented. If he had
looked at this petition he would not have given your Lord-
ships the trouble of listening to the nonsense with which
he has occupied your time. The Noble Lord then pre-
sented petitions from Kirby, Mispothen, in the county of
York; from Kilsyth, in the county of Stirling ; from
Loders, in the county of Dorset; from Sutton St. Mary,
in the county of Lincoln ; from Bruton, Bradstock, and
Shipton, in the county of Dorset; from Caithness; from
Shilton ; from Norton ; from the Minister and Elders of
the Presbytery of Hamilton ; from the Minister and El-

lets of the Presbytery of Glaagow ; from
brook, and other !dares in Suffolk; and from ",
Mike, of the city of Dublin, who atatod himself to
Protestant.

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The Earl of DARNLEY observed that h• til

it

that with reference to rtitions from the county of DPP
many persons, oath al servants and labourers, had
compelled to sign than.
The Earl of ELDON—If my Noble Friend W ,
'tie the name of any person who gave hies the inferinOil •
I will piirAiie the inquiry, bid I do not believe one ttelJ
the sort th it 1 heat'.
The Duke of RICHMOND—If We 'Prete dispon
quarrel with the petitions presented on the other eitie'a,
mi4ht find many of the arts made use of which 1107,
charged upon us; but I will not condescend to am;
of the sort. There' it no better way of deetroyiet
i-iteht of petitioning (a right retAch I will never alio:,
be attfailtedsl than by throwing ridicule on the Feudsie
The Earl of DAliffiLEY.-4 hope it will not bee
posed that I mean to throw dist:l*th upon the right of
titioninz. It is a most invaluable privilege bat I!,
Noble Duke, or any one else, supposes that an the !'6.")
'tires to these Anti-Catholic petitions are net 0bP!,,1
from ignorant persons who do not understand the qa4tt
and who are taught to believe that the question is-"lcr
the. Popery or Protestantiem is to be established, 'f,
are rnifd! mistaken. If proof were wanting, I gelid
dare it ; but I do trot think I am now called upon to d°
Lord BOSTON presented petitions from
lliybourne, Preston Bisset, and other places in BO'
hatnehire; and fi•oni Tenby, in Pembrokeshire. ,
Upon the motion of the Earl of SaLarigs""
Navy Mutiny Bill was read a second time.
Adjourned at a Quarter to Seven.

HOUSE OP COAIMONS...—(LAST NIGHT')
°
Mr. lIODHOIJSE brought tris the report of the Ce
mittee on the Vestrj
Bill of St. Paul's, CoYentgarcierjd,
Mr. Alderman WAlTlEltit's obtained leave Wy,„„.i'V
a Bill to authorise the pulling down pf 8t•
Church in Fleet-street.
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Mr. P. WILSON presented six petitions from
parishes in Yorkshire, against further concessions
to
Catholics.
Lord A. HILL :presented a petition from the countil
Down in favour of the Catholics.
Sir J. OWEN presented eight petitions from the coeor
of Pembroke against the Catholics.
Mr. JONES presented a similar petition from a r--1,11
in Carmarthen, and stated that it was most res
11.pecer
signed, and had been got up by no unfair means.
posed the prayer of the petition. Defb
Mr. MUNDY presented a similar petition from►
and its vicinity. It was signed by 8,867 persons, ecl:6l
of whom were County Magistrates, and forty-three of
Clergymen.
if e
Lord GEORGE CAVENDISH said it was rag (4'oo,
account for the number of signatures. The petition ar
divided into four parts, and a part was placed each 01;,vf
quarters of the town, and some boys had boasted of harp.
signed etch part of it.
Mr. MUNDY, in reply, observed that he had 1'44.,
direct communication with the committee who wer p
pointed to superintend the signing, but they evert ice ltd
able men, and desirous of fairness in the transe,e
They requested to put certain questions to those Per:id
signing as to their knowledge of the subject, and 'Ole
e or

they had signed any other petition. eY
Mr. ABERCROMBIE did not find fanit With
Honourable Gentleman for doing his ditty in Pr mod,
ing the petition which had been put into his l'""0
but he did complain of the extraordinary means 111117,"e'
been taken all over the country to influence the min°
the people against the Catholics. He would call the at
t,4
Lion of the House to a hand-bill which bad been circ:l;
for that purpose, it was headed " Catholic torches, i 4
stated, that in the time of the Spanish Armada the SF's]
ships contained Catholic collars, which were intendr"t
compress the necks, arms, and legs of Englishmen, till t
confessed where their money was hid.—(Laughter.)l
There were also Spanish hilboes and thumb-screws for
same purpose. The hand-bill eonclnded by adinogielL
the Protestants, if they wished not to introduce Cats,
lic collars and thumb-serews into the country agsla',,,,
immediately sign the anti-Catholic petition. lie syl!",,
that some of those gentlemen who were in the bel'',l4i
making collections would collect as many as they could
the inflammatory and ridiculous placards--(Hear s4l,i
laughter)—which were now distributing all over
country, in order to show the sensible men of ether
the means whieh had been resorted to to engage thelg°'
of this conntry to support the falling cause of bibigotrybigotryMr. MUNDY said a few words in explanation. AO
Mr. 11. GRATTAN said that it was quite right
the )!louse should know in what way some of those Ps
Lions, which were miscalled Protestant petitions, had 700
got np. lie had occasion a few days since so go
tjt
bookseller's shop, and observing a number of P,ti
on the counter, he took up one of them, which rafts
to a place in the county of Cavan, containing the ha's
and most groundless falsehoods. However much his
,go
tempt was excited he offered to buy a quantity of t'co
but the person in attendance said that he could
whatever number he pleased, free of soy charge',
hose pipe rs were published for gratuitous contribna°o
by the'Conatitutional Tract Society. Several were rneda_,o
in:parcels for transmission to the country, one of which i
directed to Dorer.—(The Hon. Member here read saYesro
extracts from one of the placards, the object of wh.ich,, ‘!,„S re
excite an unfavourable impression in the public
gard to the consideration of the Emancipation Os" Os
Another of them contained a most scandalous libel ea
Earl
character of the Rev. Dr. Troy, concerning a Cemniciaiflil
on the Protestant Bible imputed to that Prelate. de
Hon. Member saW that he could refer the House to A pl
claration made by Dr. Troy, respecting the notes I° thi
exhibition of the Rhenish Testament published
year 1562, in which he condemned the princiPle'cii,
those identical notes, and which he had aireadY,
claimed upon oath. He (Mr. Grattan) contendeqd
it was not in the power of the Brunswick club., ar tabli
rile associates, to take away the character of that /oar:
awocistio
Prelate. Was it to be tolerated that tkoee vile
tl
should arrogate to themselves the title of loyal Protest"
—a name which they so little deserved? f
Mr. SYKES said that he had an opportunity of
co,
nessing the extent to which these attempts had been
ried. Ile was in a shop at Leicester not man/ dal 3%'
when a person came in and Raid, that if the Relic 1d 0'
was passed he hoped the Duke of Wellington vr°:o,l
assassinated; and if the King put his hand to the 131'"
same person wished that the hand might be paredaa"
ever.—(Hear.)
Ebl
Mr. TRANT, in reference to what had fallen from .s 1
othl
n
Hon. Member for Dublin, declared that he kneW
of the parcel of placards which was said to bare hbe;
directed for Dover, but at the same time he had /10,.0
tation in saying, that he thought it right the public 1"% o,
get all reasonable information on this important quie..„tr-t.,
When attempts were made to put down the right to .;
tion—( Cries of No, no !)—he would contend that such A ?-
tempts were made, by undervaluing the chuaeter
spectability of the petitioners,. Though they were in A -
nority, yet they would fight to the last.-(hear, hear" 11
Sir JOHN BRIDGES said a few words, which el,'
not be distinctly heard in the gallery. We understoodltd4
lion. Member to say that he never would lend his 1130
a measure that must inevitably destroy the Constitirtioroo
Mr. WALLACE was surprised to hear any Gentle°
in that House say that unfair means had been used to Pd
down petitioning, he thought the experience of the last I.'
for Pero!!
weeks gave a sufficient answer to such a charge,
in the history of Parliament had there been, in Ihe.;
space of time, so many presented, or so much Pl'lo
and attention paid to them.—(hear, hear),--but e"' ta
be supposed that out of the host of petitions lent 4,
that House, not a word was to be said ? if facts tePil
ing to show the manner in which they were got ni). vie?
not to be noticed, how could the House form an opinion
to the weight of credit they were entitled to ?--(.-eBr.thi
Would Hon. Members who made the complaints.de"
n
the inflammatory placards circulated had no effect aP°Ati,
lower orders of the people, who by such means were in_lo,l;
to sign their liamee to petitions they could not 1:1"--1,r
understand; there were some respectable nerves, " t r'tl
ti all of the petitions, but who would say that the
of them were as competent to decide upon the question as„rd
majority of that Honee.—(Hear, hear.)—No one
respected the right of petitioning than he did, and he sea"bri,
be the last man to throw any obstacles in the Ifni' irte
the abuse of the right tended greatly to injure its

portance.
Mr. LEGIT KECK said a few words, which from
no in the ou we could not distinctly hear.
After a fewH words fronitlr. Colburn, Capt. Diu—
s,
Mr. Abercrombie, and Sjr C. Hastings, the petition ir
ordered to he printed.
r. MUNDY presented five more similar Pe-
from places in Derbyshire.
Lord G. CAVENDISH presented a petition from -
in Derby, in favour of the Catholic Claims. • 130
in Mr. TREVOR presented petitions from two Parl°
Carnarvon against the Catholics.
Sir -WM. HEATHCOTE presented Pe
titi°l'l
from Basingstoke and Bodlin.
Sir J. ASTLEY prisented a similar petition 'r
Greenfield and Westwood. t)0
Mr. CROMPTON presented two Petition n°P3
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ilrough of Derby in favour of the treasures introduced by
Ins Majesty's }Ministers, for the tranquillization of Ireland.
Mr. CALCRAFT brought up the Report on the Na-
ttonal Vaccine Establishment.—Laid on the table, and or-
4cred to he printed.
Mr. TYNTE presented a petition from the inhabitant
householders of the boronzh of Bridgewater, praying for
a repeal of the house and window tax.

CATHOLIC CLAIMS,
Mr. COKE presented a petition from en enlightened
body of Clergymen, residing in the county of Norfolk, in
favour of Emancipation. The lion. Member read the pe-
tition, and as well as *e sotild hear Wm; proteeded to
State that it had been got up very Hittsrkniky fl.dul a former
petition, vrhieh had been pre:welted to the House as the
bedtime of the frifeegy of Norfolk. He had been re-
queered ht estate, first, that the Archdeacon of the county
heees- heard a syllable about that petition until after its
Presentation to the Ilonse ; and secondly, that only 110
Of the 350 Clergymen of the diocese had signed it. So
enlightened and benevoltet were the mind's of men fit Nor-
folk, that he had no doubt that if a diestillitlen of Pet-
liament were to take plate to-iiteeroiee there would he otee
keeeitil feeling throitghoet the county in favour of re-
testeileg two sieepbrters of the Catholic claims.
It: B. WODEHOUSE concurred most cordially in the
t're'rer of the petition, but could not flatter himself that
the feeling in favour of Catholic emancipation was neat: 30
anal:imous as his lion. Colleague supposed.
Sir R. HERON congratelated the county of Norfolk
ne posseceing a clergy so liberal as to desire to eonununi-
eate to those who differed from them in religious opinions
the fall benefit of the Constitution.
The petition was ordered to be printed.
Mr. JEPHSON, in preventing the petition from Mallow
in favour of the Catholic claims, .id, that knowing he*
irksometi it was to the House to hear these tse-tliscassions on
.oternetrinciple of a measure which l'eel been, and would be,
any discussedtihYiegorth a fetv days again, lie would not say
bet he PnetAl question of Catholic emanc:pation
preen his
would with the leave of the House, ex-
Cathe" reVee: that the Bill for the relief of the
eel had been so worded as to leave undecided a guts-
bron
_ ,0 of very great importance, and which must now be
ght hereafter before the Honee—he meant the return
of Air. O'Connell.O'Connell.Had he been admitted under the new
Bill, it would have been a most popular measure in Ire-
land. This was a solitary case, which it was not worth
while to have omitted, He also begged to call the Right
11011. Gentleman'e attention to that part of the Bill which
reined tO the Universities. He found that Oxford was
"iii tO attain those regulations which prevented a Catholic
Nit residence, even for general education. Cambridge,
NI the contrary, kad broken through those restrictions;
Core lie believed that a Catholic could remain, at least for
a time: in Oxford, however, it was totally prevented.—
He must say, that if he were not prepared to do away with
all the distinctions that had separated Catholics from Pro-
testants, it were better not to have emancipated them ; we
Should only be giving them every substantial power, yet,
by useless restriction, irritate and annoy their feelings.—
"a thought this course was against all true policy.
After a few words from Mr. H. GRATTAN, the petition
bas laid on the table.
Mr. jj, MAXWELL presented thirty-two petitions
(Men various parte of Armagh, Wexford, and Donegal,
against Catholic emancipation.
ftlte MOORE presented a similar petition from the
bDean and Chapter of the collegiate church of St. Patrick,
it din, which was agreed to at
ever rernembered. the largest convocation
Colonel I3AILLIE presented several petitions in favour
of the Catholie claime from several parts of Scotland. Ile
deel'ared Lis concurrence with the petitioners.
Mr. THANT presented petitions from the Baptists of
Limehouse, against the Catholic claims.
Mr. P. MACQUEEN presented similar petitions from
Celnworth and Rysdale.
fro Mr.
DIJGDALE presented a petition of the same nature
m Sutton Coldfield.
Mr. MACNAGHTEN presented several petitions
against concession to the Catholics from several places in
the county of Antrim.
Mr. SCOTT presented a similar petition from Kelso.
Sir E. HARVEY presented several petitions of the seine
kind from parishes in Essex. The general feeling of that
county was, he said, against concession.
Air. LENNARD denied the statement which had fallen
from the Gallant Admiral, that the feeling of Essex was
strongly opposed to emancipation.
LEYCESTER said, that in many places the anti-
Catholic feeling in Essex had undergone a change.
Mr. WODENOUSE presented a similar petition from
Norfolk, bet declared his dissent from the opinions of the
Petitioners.
Mfr. MARSHALL presented a petition from Tadcaster,
ie favour of the Catholic Claims.
Mr. O'NEILL presented a petition against them from
the neighbourhcA of Hull.
ee Mr. D. W. HARVEY gave notice of a motion for
""anorrow, respecting certain returns from the different
Comte of Justice.
Mr. MONCK presented a petition from an individual
named Thomas Flanagan, of Sligo, praying that the Bill
respecting Charities be extended to Ireland; also &petition
from the same person, praying that the law of Patents be
extended to Ireland.
Lord ALTHORP moved for accounts of all monies paid
to the Bank of England for the management of the public
debt in 1828 ; of allowances made by the public to the
Beek of the charges for the management of South Sea
• Stock ;of the balances of public money in the hands of the
I3aak, including the balances of the Accountant-General in
. the Court of Chancery; of unclaimed dividends ; of the
amount of advances, made by the Bank to the Government
nn account of Exchequer Bills, &c., between August,
18281 and February, 1820 ; of the number of branch
banks of the Bank of England, established under the Act
aathorixing the same, together with the dates and places of
their establishment.--Ordered.

PATENTS.
Mr. LENNARD said, in compliance with a request
made by the Attorney-General, he should postpone his
Irnotion for a Select Committee to inquire into the present
state of the laws and practice relative to the granting of Pa-
tents for Lirentions.
JUVENILE OFFENDERS.
Mr' P.•• bVENPORT, in moving for leave to bring
art 41 a Bill to extendA the power of summary conviction in
rTsin
eases of juvenile offenders guilty of petty larceny,
observed that when gaols and houses of correction were
first established, it was under very different circumstances
from those which now existed. Persons were sent there
not
only for purposes of punishment, but of correction and
amendment. Now it was notorious, that from the crowded
oittle of prisons, and the indiscriminate mingling together
f to
of different ages and various degrees of edit-li-
-4"V, results directly the reverse of those originally con-
vrPlated took place. The ill effects of the present system
k Peculiarly apparent in eases of juvenile offenders.
?Y gaoler whom he had consulted was decidedly of
tiri°ll that when boys were sent to prison they were ini-
eeltdede into every sort of vice so rapidly as generally to
for r their condition irretrievable. His object in moving
„ "re to bring in the proposed Bill was to prevent this
"t". He wished to dispense with the intervention of
Juries in the trial of youthful offenders wherever it could
I d°l4. But in cases where a jury should be necessary,
he would prefer taking hail for the appearance of the ac-
ensed party to committing him to a house of correction.
4notber feature of his measure consisted in the substi-
.%
°tinn of trials at petit sessions ender certain restrictions
In lieu of trials at quarter sessions. After a few further
remarks, the Hon. Member concluded by moving for leave
to bring in a Bill to the effect before stated.
/tr. PEEL would not oppose the Hon. Member's mo-
tion : at the same time he considered the measure to he
surrounded with great difficulties, to get rid of which
required serious deliberation.
WiMLOCKHART objected to the proposal to dispense
with Trial by Jury in the eases of youthful offenders
charged with petty larceny.
th Sir T. BARING entirely concurred in the principle of
* Bill, but could not hatard an opinion on the subject
of
tthie details.
oatr- PEEL, as an additional objection to the measure,
;Merl to the possibility of persons of tender age being
;,..11mtlated to commit offences by individuals of greater
ZP"ience, if it were determined that youthful criminals
"hl in all eases be more favourably dealt with than
sobers, Ile therefore objected to the principle of fixing a
et main age to which, without reference to other eircnin-
the Bill should apply. The Right Hen. Gentleman
trK occasion to mention, with reference to the police of
*, metropolis, that his attention bad been given to the
h-°".iect during the entire of the last summer, and that he
Ilia" prepared a Bill, founded on the report of the Com-
itteee which circumstances already alluded to prevented
MI from submitting to the attention of the House at
Present.
After a few words from Sir T. FREMANTLE and Mr.
"AvanroaT, leave was given to bring in the Bill.
kBrUPPLY OF SUBJECTS FOR DISSECTION.
r. wmtuurrroN, pursuant to his notice, rose to
store necessary
to the Heave a project, which had been rendered
sto're necessary than ever by late occurrences, which no one
Is:: than himself lamented. It was not his intention in
eit2nthing to the House the heads of the Bill, to impose
"er penalties or prohibitions. His first object would be to

confer a epodes of legality on the practice of anatomy ;
.and
with this view he should propose:-:-. 6,t•stt .-.nicti.ient to
render anatottit, in its practice and as a
anode t:tr itittl'nction in all cities or towns corporate,
Wherein there were srhoola which conferred degrees in
anatomy, or wherein there were hospitals which were ca-
pable of receiving 50 patients at a time. This would, he
conceived, entre- a valtiable pritilege oh ttiost of t!te fotns:
tr cities which inight be tonsidefeti to inelit or require
stich a distinction. The next difficulty to stirmount would
be the obtaining a suticient nunsber, , of subjects for the
pur.poSeiof sciene.;'e end institiCtinh: His project had for
sts basis the pb:lo;ice of the Vrench tiovernment in tile
ciiy of Paris at this day. In fact, this was the only ra-
tional basis to found a system of supply upon ; for if we
were not to apply to public institutions, such was the
strength of prejudice or natural affection, that obstacles
would arise which would put an end to the practice of dis-
section altogether, or place such supply upon the preca-
rious and revolting footlng,oti which it rnfurt,!nately stood
at th'e pre eat hone. He therefore should propose that the
tivei•seers of the poor, in certain cases, and the governors
of hospitals, should be empowered by this Bill to give up
to surgical examination the bodies of such persons as fell a
victim to disease whilst iii the hospital, and were not
claimed within a certain time after their decease, Here lie
begged that he should not be understood to treat the feelings
of the lower orders with the slightest disrespect by the
present enactment. In fact, they ought to recollect they
were perhaps more deeply interested than other classes in
this humane provision becoming part of our laws, because,
from s teal-let). of reasons, they were more liable to disease
and accident. He begged them to take this into their con-
sideration, and also to reflect that in the ease of the late
disclosures of the horrid atrocities committed in order to
Obtain a supply of subjects for dissection in Edinburgh,
the lower classes had in all cases been the vietinas.—(Hear.)
—He felt assured from calculations which he liat made,
and some eminent men in their profession had sanctioned,
that the supply thus created would be more than adequate
to the exigencies of the profession, and he was happy in
contemplating that if his project was adopted and became
law, it would be the means of exonerating hereafter a be-
neficent and humane profession from the possibility of
being implicated in the charge of being confederate with
either ressurrectionmen, or a class of villains whose atroci-
ties had so very recently been brought to light. The
Hon. Alember concluded by moving for leave to bring in a
Bill "to legalize and regulate the supply of dead bodies for
the purposes of dissection."
Mr. LEYCESTER seconded the motion.

Mr. HYDE VILLIERS believed the plan of his Hon.
Friend had originated in the most humane feelings. He
considered the measure eminently calculated to benefit the
poor, and therefore he would give it his support.
The LORD ADVOCATE was also friendly to the pro-
position of the Hon. Member, for it was admitted on all
hands that dissection was necessary to the perfection of
medical science, and it was evident, that without subjects
there could be no dissection. By the law, as it at present
stood, anatomy could not be prosecuted without its pro-
fessors being compelled to have intercourse with the most
depraved characters, and oftentimes net without being
liable to the suspicion of being accessories to the most
atrocious acts. He had been engaged for some months
lately, in an anxious and minute inquiry into the mode of
supply of subjects, to which the anatomical schools with
which lie was best acquainted were compelled to have re-
course. The result of his inquiry was, his conviction that
the present high price of subjects--a price consequent in n
great degree upon the existing law,—was the origin of all
the evils that had arisen from the practice of procuring
(lead bodies for dissection. He was also convinced that
unless sonic means were devised fur checking those evils,
they would not only continue to exist, hut would extend
more and more every day.—(Hear, hear.)—lre trusted and
hoped, that the late atrocities that had taken place in his
native country would have the effect of preventing a
delay of some attempt
,to remedy the existing law; for,
till some such attempt was made, no man could take
it upon him to say that there would be no renewal of those
atrocities. The inquiry i❑ which he had been lately en-
gaged, showed how easy it was to elude the heavy penalty
of the law for murders, with a view to obtain the present
high price of subjects for dissection ; for it was impossible,
as it appeared on that inquiry, to discover by the appear-
ance of such subjects that they had been murdered, render-
ing it impossible, therefore, to obtain from professional in-
vestigation the evidence of the crime which the law de-
manded, as necessary to the detection and conviction of
the murderer. The bodies of those who had been mur-
dered on the occasion that led to the inquiry in which he
had been engaged, afforded no indication of murder, and
therefore no means of detecting the murderer. Neither did
the character of those who usually supplied subjects afford
any security against a renewal of the late atrocities ; for it
appeared in the evidence furnished by the report of the
Committee on the subject of that House, that the majority
of those who trafficked in dead bodies were capable of any
crime; that upon their atrocities their was no check but
the fear of the law. Sir A. Cooper, among other compe-
tent witnesses, said, that but for the fear of detection, he
was convinced his own body would not be safe from the
hands of those persons who usually supplied the medical
schools of the metropolis with subjects.—(Hear, hear.)—
Under those impressions, he (the Lord Advocate) thought
that some measure relative to the necessary supply of dead
bodies fur the purposes of medical science should be brought
forward with the least possible delay, and that he was dis-
posed to support the Bill of the Hon. Member for Brid-
port. He considered that Bill to be freer from objections
than any other proposition that he had heard of. Its ten-
dency was entirely permissive—for by it the governors and
managers of hospitals would not be compelled to dispose of
the unclaimed bodies of the poor, best only permitted to
do so under certain wise regulations. No measure ap-
peared to him so unobjectionable, he repeated, as giving
the permission to the manager of hospitals to devote the
bodies of such persons as had no relations to claim them,
to the purposes of anatomy ; for in this case no feeling
could be outraged.
Mr. LOCKHART hoped that care would be taken to
insure decency and due regard to public feeling in the mode
of transmitting bodies for dissection. He thought also it
would be advisable to have the constitutional security
against unfair death of a coroner's warrant for every body
handed over to the professors of anatomy.
Mr. PEEL considered that nothing would be more use-
less than for him to then waste the time of the House by
discussing the importance of anatomy. The necessity of
anatomy to medical science had been admitted on all hands;
and if its existence were necessary, it would follow that a
supply of subjects was also necessary. The question, then,
for the House to consider was, the mode of that supply.
By the present law, the cultivators of anatomy were com-
pelled to resort to at least illegal means of procuring dead
bodies, and to associate with those who committed the
most egregious violation of decency, and who were too
often capable of any atrocity. That such was the fast,
the answer to the questions contained in the report of the
Committee on Anatomy must carry conviction to the mind
of every Hon. Member who read that report. One of the
witnesses who was much engaged in the supply of sub-
jects for the London schools, stated that he had, in one
year, himself supplied 305 adults, 44 children, and 43
infants ; in another year 312 subjects ; in the next year
(IS I l) 234; and in the following summer, 241, sub-
jects. He stated also that he was paid at the rate of
four guineas each for the adults, and that he sold the
children for so =eh per inch.—(Hear, hear, hear.)—
This in itself sheaved the great demand that existed
for dead bodies, and the great temptation that existed
for furnishing the necessary supply. But if proof were
necessary on this point, and that something should be done
by the Legislature, the atrocities that had come to light
within the last six months, afforded more than sufficient.
It was now absolutely necessary that something should be
done to check the evils of the existing law, were it only
from regard to those feelings which they all held in the
highest respect ; and no proposition with that view ap-
peared to him so unobjectionable in principle, and so likely
to be beneficial in practice, as that just submitted to the
House by the Hon. Member for Bridport. He thought,
however, that the public required that the Hon. Member's
Bill should contain a clause by which it would he obliga-
tory on parties demanding subjects, not only to give their
names, but also, to prevent professional jealousy, that they
should be licensed teachers of anatomy. Such a clause, he
thought, would add to the beneficial effects of the Hon.
Member's measure. It could not be objected to that mea-
sure that it would render the bodies of the poor more liable
to dissection than those of the rich ; fur, in consequence
of the present law, the bodies of the poor are mere readily
accessible than those of the rich, for the coffins of the
latter are buried so much deeper in the ground, that it
is very difficult and tedious to get at them. It could
not, therefore, be charged as an objection to the
Honourable Member's Bill, that it would render the
dead poor more liable to be dissected than . the rich, as
the fact existed under the present law, the great supply
of subjects being those of poor persons. Besides, as he
thought it would be very easy to show, the poor them-
selves would be the parties most benefitted by the measure ;
for, at present, the rich possessed means of ensuring pro-
fessional efficiency far beyond those within the reach of
the poorer classes, upon whom therefore all improvements
in medical science must have a more direct effect. Ile
trusted that no attempt would be made to impede the Bill
by the invalid objection that it paid en undue deference to
the feelings of the rich ; fur he repeated hie conviction

that the part most Ileili!!ttell il;&Ad be the poei
selves. (Hear, hear.) He %roold on that conviction give
his support to the Hon. Member's Bin, which he trusted
would contain provisions which, while they promoted 11le..
dical science, wonld be an effectual precaution against a
renewal of those atrocities by which public feeling had been
lately outraged.
tlrottid be moat happy to avail
bimseif of O'ery suggestionlsly to attain the great ob-
ject they all had in tie*, and therefore should adopt the
recommendation of the Right Hon. Home Secretary as to
the sei.'ttrity bf haiing the itamei of and a notice from the
medical gentlemen to *Nun bodies shotild be Made Over.
He could not, however, see the expediency of requiting
coroner's warrant with each body, unless indeed it were in-
tended to include within the operation of the Bill the
bodies of these who had come to an untimely -death, or had
committed suicide.

Leave was then given to bring in the Bill.
TOBACCO TRADE.
Mr. G. DANtTSON moved for a Committee on th•
laws regulating the growth of Tobacco in Ireland. Ilis
object, he stated, was to bring in a Bill to assimilate the
laws in England and Ireland with respect to the manufac-
ture of Tobacco of domestic growth. By the present law
all Tobacco of Irish growth was prohibited from being em-
ployed in the manufacture of Snuff, Ike., though no less
than 600 or 700 hogsheads had been in the last year
smuggled into this country, to the great injury of the
revenue.

Mr. WHITMORE thought the subject of a reduction
of prohibitive duties on the domestic growth of tobacco
well worthy of the serious attention of the House and the
Government.

Mr. C. GRANT would not object to the House going
into a Committee ; but should take another opportunity
of calling its attention to the expediency of considering all
the prohibitive duties on domestic tobacco, with a view to
their reduction. He would then merely observe, that the
original ground or cause of those prohibitive duties no
longer existed, for they were enacted in order ta encourage
the cultivation of tobacco in Virginia and Maryland, then,
but no longer, British colonies. Lie thought mature de-
liberation was necessary before the House agreed on pro-
hibiting the growth of Irish tobacco by the present enor-
mous duties on the article. He was aware that those
duties were defended on the ground of the great revenue
they afforded, and he submitted it to the House, whether
the enormous rate oC those duties—not less than from
1,000 to 1,200 per cent,—did not tend to encourage and
perpetuate smuggling.
After a few words from Mr. JeritsoN, Mr. limn-
sox, and Mr. DAwsoN, in reply,
The House went into a Committee on the Bill, and on
the motion of Mr. DAwsoN it was resolved, that it is the
opinion of this Committee, that it is expedient to assimi-
late the laws in Great Britain and Ireland relating to the
growth of tobacco.

The House having resumed, the resolution was reported
to the House and agreed to, and leave was given to bring
in a Bill founded upon it.
_. _ _

The Mutiny Bill was read a third time and passed.
CHARITIES (IRELAND) BILL.
On the motion of Mr. WALLACE, a Bill " to extend to
Ireland the provisions of the Act 52d Geo. 111., c. 101,
for providing a summary remedy in cases of abuses of
trusts created for charitable purposes," was read a second
time, and ordered to be committed to-morrow (this day.)
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and
the House adjourned at Ten o'clock.

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