Star.
London, England, 1808-05-03 00:00:00

••• life ; enough pf petrebnage. But what is i
domed of its trappings? Will it increase men?
0 e.
rs increase arms ?—No ; but it will increase men
The Training. Art, which was in existence
illis.
it, would halo produced many more men in
r-__ This grand, original measure, was different
re,,, Training
.Act ; instead of putting men into
ltnses"7 and regiments, they were put into clothes.
PF,r,ifole country was soon to be put into red, blue,
/e azd yellow. It was to be made a kind of sal.
Iv*
y. tie Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. \Vile
) had talked of the advantages of a defensive
:0
He ought to recollect that, during the
rtsca Revolutionary War, the assailants almost
to where succeeded. What theory the Honoura.
Genticeeen means to set up against this practical
weet; lamat a loss to-know. He ridiculed the idea
clog
any advantage by a drill of 28 days,
iisedu
set officers of no experience. He considered ;h
tbseers, and the Noble Lord's Local a, as
csoe of defeat and disaster, but mit of. victory,
Treeing Bill was, on the contrary, intended to
ws a great reservoir and supple to fill up vacancies,
eto increase the numbers of ihe regular troops.—
.Aste tonsiiercil the great point at issue. His plan
rot the patronage as low as possible ; the present
;eao raised it as high as it could well go. A bet-
weeno could not be devised for ditfusine, patro-
everough the Counties. One, and r. very bad
of eais measure, is, breaking up the system be-
, isee established for the recruiting of the army,, to
sod the country witb an nyyearance of doing some-
illg; to
Tcon ceal what the Ministers have been tin-
ilk 'ne Training Act was intended to b ring a
wee descrip:ion of people to the army ; the present
goo is calculated to render men too corrupt fin-
levier occupation. Mr. Windham placed the
, :Go in a variety of ludicrous points .f view, and
Ord to it total inefficiency, as well as many se.
oseils.
Xr.WILBERFORCE in • explanatinn said, that
oil:stage he expected from a trained population,
*awe them ready to become soldiers. The fall
jai Continental nations was the consequence of
erre of ibis advantage; for on the defeat of their
pas, they had. no means of supplying the loss. As
pie part of his past conduct alluded to, he could
ay atfund himself on that point, if the charge
ted be brought forward at a time when the orders
tf House would permit hint to do so..
Lard CASTLEREAGH had great satisfaction in
living any thing, and took pleasive in avowing it,
ask borrowed any part of a measure out of- the
elery system of the Right Honourable Gentleman 1
rite to him (Mr. Windham), instead of being
Seined to confess he did so; this he had done with
view at the same time of preserving the Volunteer
face, while lie attempted to improve their Hifi.
siey "Witt and even to add to their number with.
ainotasing their expense; and thus he proposed
.nosly to keep, but to add to the Military Force
Ifs country, without bringing in the evils which
tad a system of Substitution. As far as he had
knowed: be was glad to he sanctioned by the wis.
km of the Right Honourable Gentleman ; but wisest
be differed from him, he must appeal to the decision
1 the House and of the Country, whether he Cl'
ie Right Honourable Gentleman was right:-.
he great difference was, that the Right Hon. Gen.
demon's system omitted to Officer the whole of the
l
.Fliory Force to be raised under it. He, on the
ecr hand, considered that officering a Military
erre, when raised, was infusing life and soul iritiS it ' .
shout which, it was :in unorganised and ;deficient
ass, inadequate to the Military operation for which
. ought to be prepared—that of offensive opera.
as abroad, as well as efficient strength at home.
U he could not help observing, that the great I
terry Force of this country, when that Right
Pas Gentleman was in power, had been employed' 1
ye objects of minor importance in comp
rime in which it ought to have been gene 11l
leis Honourable Frieml
d (Mr.'-nlVilgbez. '..-.
whodliaddl
bevel his P° .4_ ably, an who never de-
bitted sentiments without making a deep ;fn.
iousio'a on the House and on the Country, that it
vex desirable thing, to bring into a military cha-
nter a
s s great a portion of tear population as could
be made efficient for that ;Duren dthe •
'ldle enemy et this e; •se; an Prepara-
re'nd d `mc at bnulogne, Brest,
,_asS,Fl9souhingh,t
t_ rendered this the more necessary ;
°lttorirehethr
withg he present state of our preparation,
the aid of the measure now proposed,
Ivult.l unquestionably be sullicient for our present
~_ fn..
eVle
.had now not le.s than two hundred
LartleimiJii..uffect ve men rank and file, Regular troops
ett?o(which this measure would add he.
amosatlystssDtaoad2.s)l, XX) men ; so that the standard would
men under a proper system of
°Vim independent
_,za..i.on,_‘ pt those alio were serving
Inttmtliheer then gave a succinct account of our
I and observed, that when this MCA.:
811 illoo,ur,d_bc_carrieti into effect we should have a
forcet.. s°o ROO men for Great Britain alone, ha
LT_Twthe Regular Army and the Militia, to
Kickwi!
.he add the Volunteer Force of Ireland, a
',.`w, t 1 bie could not be excelled by any Volunteers
.z:„, number, which was 50,000, we had. a
Haig, in
in aid of our Regular and Militia
win, adequate,
in all a body of 500,000 effective
wit
ea.esluate, he had no fear to say, to any thing
let
that
.1 our enemy could at present attack us.—
eve Tl. enemy was not to hope that he had
d etc:s_7!
~ to do than to produce that force, for,
ce_e'uni
...ta much larger would face him in this
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obvi. at present there did not appear to be a • " FALMOUTH, APRIL SO.
Zot.
tt mon necessary than was now proposed.
~Arrived this day the American ship Osage, Captain Donal,
hecee , Patronage which this measure was said to
•
.1144latlias Cdto produce, he did not see it in the same 1 from France, having on board the Anicriein Messenger, Mr,
ler.,„ thesaid Right.. Hon. Gentleman did.-0 Lean as 1 Noettsr, five days from I: Orient. Immediately en his arrival he
Lordship, F. at this moment, I am i went off with dispatches for the American Minister in London t.
nilident I shall
to feed
on e....,,ii never grow fatter if I have nothing 1 Bortaraeve has declared that he wilt not suffer any nation to
la the , ~.... but
.uie patronage of my own Bill." As remain neutraL The Osage laving been boarded ey a Britlth
Num
,;.°‘ 4t10115 of the Worthy Baronet on the sup:: cruiser, was seised immediately on her arrival, and five weeks
ha, klegrAdati°rl of this measure, he was confident ' bad elapsed before she could obtain her clearance. The Osage
.. 4 W wever it appeared • brings intelligence that the oc non squ.. ron arrived at
to the Honourable Baronet,
c etai
d,,,..r tY of whose sentiments he bas not in the least Toulon, and after being joined by the fleet from thence, again
.'" restiOn.
.:ne e., e p____Tekgs yet to the 'House of Commons, ! sailed : the Toulon fleet is said to have returned after having been
;e1.7 thin. L'll-' Of England, there would not appear om.: days at sea. The frigates Italienne and Syrese, which ailed
lat.eci degradingfik6tilc in any measure that was cake- ' from France on the i 7th January, with several transports for the
made these 'well of the British Empire. Having , Colonies, arrived out in 26 days, and returned to I: Orient on the
Fiolld ~_ general observations on the subrt., he i 26th of March, having taken the English ship Susan and Sarah
him ae;geeththe!-louse from the trouble of calk% 1 KING ;
dui
cf A:.
___l _ L.ll;n. present.. upon . l&
- fartherarid the privateer Sopplio and Alert. The Hortense and
dig 21.1_.teCtt as ; Hermicne frigates arrived :1 Rochefort no tha Wed Marchihay.
it aa e .417551- Nkcrolsi nec y oog to • lag lauded ISO pt. scans taken from {Meta English prises they
Anti be
0 bad captured.'

The Question was then put, and carried without a
division.—The Bill was then read a secand time, vpd
ordered to be committed to a Committee of the wli:7te
House on Wednesday next.