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London, England, 1842-07-02 00:00:00

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with the circumstances brought under the con-
kr:ration of the House by the Hon. Member for
ein°ek- If it was dangerous on the one hand to
ze
ottliaet.re tofeelings a despondency, it was equally so on
"id out false expectations of relief from
4,ai,public purse. If an example were wanting, the
ta:leY case would affted it ; that was a
tee, of distress of a most remarkab!e cha-
h,l'otrii pervading a large manufacturing community.
,!,cattses of that distress it perhaps might not be
awe to go ; but he should assign as one cause *the
trelre_ br the manufactures carried On in the town. It
the
ea_tnanufacfure confined almost to one commodity ;
eisoil4et trade was connected with the United States.
or t„,! ,the diSturbances in those States a sudden cessation
tei ‘"e did take place • and besides that, the expected
. ,
flature" the Scotch banks caused a failure in the nianu-
People's there. The Hon. Alember talked of
.. Christian
qreh,, not being treated with respect. He. (Sir James
kkeelisel) thought they had been treated with a feeling.
bwarmer than respect, and to the honour of Scot-
-1(),0001 it stated that a sum of between 25,000/. and
hueex. • was collected in behalf of Paisley. 'Phis sum,
5s iter large, was expended. Local subscriptions fail-
ete, was necessary to supply further funds. Her Ma.
ile4os Government endeavoured to promote public col.
ins 'hie metropolis. The Paisley case afforded a
e exam inter of the danger of the Government ter •
tete(gi Incases of this nature. The Hon. Gentleman had
el)4,tte:',biections to the system of Government stores;
nole- 63'stetti had been adopted as less liable on the
4,,,t to abuse than any other. The subscriptions did
ceter?i,`"e souted lely from the Government, but a portion was
lq private individuals ; and there was no
A encoura e belief that the public purse would
te,ertted to an ugnliamitelextent for the relief of the dis-
-4111 Nisle). The Manufacturing community at large
toefitr.'° doubt at present reduced to a very melancholy.
etliste:),l Ile (Sir J. Graham) had never denied the.
iie,c)lBl.,eeirerosti distress, and he deeply sympathised with
He entirely concurred, however,. with the
Crenib for Cockermouth—a high authority on
tt tare .I.!et----that it was beyond the power of the L.egis-
;lsdevise an immediate remedy for the existing
lemed here were many circumstances which had of late
f depress our trade and manufactures. There
leetc:i. stance, the war in China and the disturbances
„INte-r,,:.1 Asia. The consequences of these and other
Gral) ere deeply felt in this country, and he (Sir,
,',nal 441) did not believe that Parliament could apple
remedy, if they were to sit for a longer pe-
,,414d; consider the subject, as proposed by the Hon.
„.7011, qer f°r Greenock. The simple remedy proposed by
dial ,"tieMen on the other side was confined to a -
tee '' Corn-laws. 1 • So, deep—so sincere, was his
Pathy "s* ie •that could he be-
d
nitu the state oi suffering, .
heuange in the Corn-laws would remove that (he-
\-,;°,l3ersonal consideration should prevent him
Lt`i_.,them But so far from that being the case,
of ticel-4,veu• a s.udde cliuwe in those laws would
te: the farmers' lanboureWto the destitute condition
t'ltalllll4eturing population, and aggravate the evil
E.,!alcrelle-4,,,• all. He believed the distress would only
eeebe 'evt by that sudden change, and, under these
tionll°tlaing remained to him but to oppose the
ih kr
n WARD said that the Right Hon. Baronet had at
s,-('‘'iver-,ea tangible -limn to the debate. He could not ap-
-oree,,,ci'- "ee form of the motion ; it was suambiguously
ttNebi ;, they ought to have something positive and
'tired e °efore them. The representations he had re-
%t
,awe:tated
.that it was impossible subject remedy
ective if they did. not take the of the
~,c'utitrees into consideration. The whole trade of the
'lste4,"ePended on the freedom of intercourse and
;etieue.,lvith other countries. He regretted that the
tio'4 not been brought forward somewhat later,
thee elieved the
11101.,:) more the Government inquired into
g. trnperatlye they would find it to do some-
' 't* ti,,e country asked the Government not to stand
tosdet` of and a better system ; they did not expect
'4lt era
t" Legislature ; they did not expect them to
vt‘'.4,4ll,intPer°d eetive- branches of trade productive, or to do
kl_e‘tartrheueautititthie prejudices e hich restricted ou r commerce
nent of Europe. But they did ask thern
tklves ?'aiodtat their own principles, which they had them-
the Vi;(l.°wn, and which had been so ably expounded
kklee e President of the Board of Trade. He be-
id" was impossible to overrate the depression at
*4ice
; ne-th
~ ird of the population was out of em-
,etllist, and the poor-rates were increasing to an extent
those Property of the town could not support. And
who were suffering distinctly traced their de-
olle:s to the operation' of the Corn-laws. With those
des did put it to the Right Hon. Baronet, whether
t.tetp° -•" not be glad to have the shield of Parliament
lite c'sejl between him and such an amount of response.
a': he 'lee had not approve of the motion, it was vague;
-houaet stateci whet Parliament could do—they
'aer aestly consider the Corn-laws. All these
la able • • •
, ese,, subscriptions were only blinking the real
v (il; and he believed the Right Hon. Baronet had
t"1,411 't the conviction that it would be necessary for
4."/itt(),ll)f--n. the ports during the coming winter, and
44 °l the first measures of the next session would
111_C ce'leration of the law he had himself proposed.
~;ALKER explained.
'`).D'ISRAELI opposed the motion. The. Hon.
for Sheffield had alluded to the distress in
by
LePea'i
land had stated that it might be remedied ya
tot ti the Corn-laws ; 'that might be all very well,
ta,te wei-e ther means of remedying the distress ;
e'at het be dn by better cOmmercial regulations.
Membert goat ne
had said it was not only Sheffield,
be e
.Novo, with respect. to that, he would ask,
1)1,, zon'ti",. seine commercial treaty_ which. permitted
4te' Sheffield
.to enter foreign ports, ap-
el, all
.eeeds, Birmingham and Wolverhampton,
L, gr(qttoi:v jl piaceS it. been represented
tat" deal i„,(l'stress prevailed? . They had. heard
-deere • e "•,TI.Y of the French ordinance with respect
he
-",c,e4ssintle:ue duty on cotton and other articles the
4 that
ofee ii:4acountry,• it was generally understood
blowthe to industry in this country ;
a°ll4ted Whether tele use ef, eatit wes,. but this he believed, that
bislY en its he distress was not single, but depended
k ent Treign policy.—(Hear, hear.) He did not
4ishew thatc Into any political discussion, but he wished
great their commercial prosperity was dependent,
ten'Y ,degree, upon their foreign policy.—(Hear.)
t(ieY ()eta, toe French commercial treaty, and the treaty
le4lttle ,-'4°4 in consequence lost them their Levantine
r-e•---(Rea • hear ) Why then, did they turn
7‘114111' . and
saY t114.t 'the Corn-I;ws were the cause of
t,ent distress. The moment the French come
1,`'41( e,'"NatY was lost, the whole of their commercial
with the East, the Levant, Egypt, India. and
th'arliet'vas disturbed.—(Hear, hear.) Of all our Eastern
vt•:' the most important and the most profitable was
'„,taell:,e market. The Chinese were eminently a
1,r113' Pe9Ple, and our commerce with them was
ed...tt'eede'aenredasing at the time the disturbances between
tee thud China commenced. Those troubles had
4 '44 Commerce with China to one-third of what
Ikea eea before. Here, in addition to the distur-
Itter", °I the
American markets, were great causes of
sfttlln'als.eial distress, and yet those gentlemen who now
spiti,"l °f this distress were the very persons this
etre,
,Forted the late Government, to whose policy
t4s4ablva3 "Fin The Income-tax was school-
ae, • --road
N ang.. that would occasion tonerinqy to be
the causes of the distress. No Minister for
to tai
tole tv°old, be suffered to. silence discussion by
~ neeotiations were going on when they
were
tkic;ll'l,,R t a treaty was not ratified when we were
It'd the ~•—(Hear, hear.) These things had occa.
h.tr. 1_0„- fstress, and nor our agricultural policy.
tr',ffeted 'l\ll-% agreed that our commercial interestshad
apeAty great injury from the non -ratification of the
of
iner" with" France, and from the diiturb-
ee oie
I,,td Levacentine market. But the Hon. Gentle
th Germitted to make any allusion to the American
bi,:e to „,a0
Markets—markets more important than
owe I'ol he had alluded, and from which it was
"414(1 iaonits that we were excluded. If we had motil-
e, h e un-laws at that time, America would not have
taritf• From the year 1825 to the present
ej4Y eut;t
•,o. manufactures had been subjected to a very
ThNs America, sometimes amounting to 4.0. or
t -14 datev-'s, in Consequence' of the Corn-laws remaining.
ttlt,r:4,o"„lv°tild have gone as profit to the manufac-
tli,,4 wages to-the labourers, if the Corn-laws had
h
'`ti r'ated• The delegates from the manufacturin.g
ahcl set forth to the country their views on this
ti rflre the i'e.Y prayed to be allowed 1.0 expound them
-elly 1,-;"()Iise• From the statements of those gen-
111,,ntyltee',eldd .a
ear that a person bad sent out a
4d-ett%- nosiery," for which he was to receive 216
4114
fUr e('rgt4's4,sre ut of this he had to pay for freig
th„ barrels. for duty in_ America 32 barrels,
iropos -e,nglish duty 42 barrels. Both these duties
ens _* ,„ eci in consequence of our Corn-laws ; for if
,Ivteteidn° Corn-laws in this country, the Amen-
iCP L'Llires not impose any. duty on our Ula-
hkea'kti Ported into 'America from this country,_
Oretied Hight Hon. Gentleman whether, if they
tot.t(abeurc. IC. the aruments of America, that the Brie.
it and r wouldnot been in a state now of com
pre, t .aye
e Perttee The Right Hon. Secretary for the
Dap Petetinent said. that the distress had been accu-
teZeasira:ntil Years. Why, suit had, and it would, gosotne
te,se eeu°,l't 9r they could not now send heir goods
w) er,__rles which had nothing. but corn
ao
duty.
etePer cent e Americans in retaliation put on of
ti1.411,._ °lt hardware, and other heavyduties,.aaul..l
thThere would not repeal the Corn-laws in thisecuoa_
_e
ek' %Ito, was Property in Atherica which would _ b.l
Ytn rY to ree
eive 6,000,000/. in a few months in
&.i,,e,l;ll,tvt;t:ltlrieir debts, if these laws were repealed. So,
e''ll ette%."l esPect to Germany and Prussia. Hon.
iteiiiitttreoutunht.riee
Ire ,
that. e tratTle the
here, other side said, if you open
know that ,
how do we
open their trade? H. e. had
te Is:hand, written b •• the Prussian Minister to
evite°4rtatilio-ii-Y,oten 1825, in which it was stated. that the
the foreign articles in Prussia was free,
Na%3vern.__'eP, 14" n of salt and playing cards, upon_
ufeipr
th• retltlir intiat held a monopoly, and that all that was
th_ el. for a reciprocated system of free trade was
Government should allow the importa-
114,1iNs thesti:S'an goods into this country. free. In
.this
14_ th,
pr:prFsentations were made to M.r. Canninrug,
ejltnt salon was made by the Prussian Govern-
that th:try free7,,to allow Prussian goods to enter 1
th, their ehe answer was dated July, 1826, and said
coultru!'ds,hiPs having fully considered the subject,
ter 4ity e%/' entertain such a proposal. Never
~saY, after this, that foreigners had
tratie7e'.,fB the way of a reciprocal system
teet'N if we had met other countries fairly we
e4t.tee hc,r lati that system now. With respect to the
I„,.ess
,the Hoase, he was glad to hear that the
etle`''l3arNe4 'reely admitted and regretted. The Right
.t4.!at!,
(4,
a,
et said Paisley had suffered in cense-
et4' I•he hivehange in fashion, but he (Mr. Hume) found
ke~gl4. in a the manufacturing districts were still,
114,e tot enteecturers of Birmingham aad Sheffield
t'.llco!aete
ftherefore, the rematk of the Right
; npply to the state of geneeal oie.•
44 Lint of
'"lti at this ruoroent consturie double the
..„.,eQra that this country produced, and yet
.Tlt-42.PUatuds were out of employment in