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their doty to have proceeded upon them.. It they
had nut such grounds it was then their duty to
have advised thqr Sovereign not to proceed any
further in the al air ; and also to have acquainted •
the Public with their reasons for so actiog. It
was their dloy, in the first case, to have brought
forwatd their charges .against her i\lojesty in the
-open lace of day, in order that they might be
fairly met, instemd of referring them to a Secret
Committee of those who 'night be afterwards called
upon to sit iti iiitikutetit on her conduct. Then
the shame svould have fallen where it was due—
tapoo her false accusers, if she had any ; or, it
true, upon her Majesty herself. But, its-
stead of this open and manly conduct; what
had been that Of. his Majesty's Government
Never had any such disgrace fallen upon any
set of Ministers before ; nor had they eotreired
themselves will bringing disgrace ration them-
selves, they had sullied and disgraced the Throne
itself. He did not at present led iostifica
in opposing, he delay seti•.ired ; htet when the •ithe
should come,'he wools! g-ve his opinions against
ail those rX taorditiory proceedings of his Ma-
jesty's Miiii•steis. He telt ail the shame and hit-
tioli•tioo •s- bids Airy had brssisgh, upon the House
Lucy first Cam, railionteist ssith a greets bag,
which they said was to tear of opening ;
Commit to • as then appiiiii.td; which was after-
,ards adjourned tints titit• to time for a lull tort-
-I,ight, fir, order ,o aat be pri,evediugs or the
brr House of l'atl,ament, a tiiatter which lie had
trays sitisietsiood t' 'o be quite itregolor even to
allude to, • He had heard, homer times, much
said about tie di.: y !hag House ; but he could
o conceit.- that ts, di,tisity was con,lll,ed or
matntained by woe's edifies Stiehl as these.
The of LIVEKPOoL sa:d, that after the
Teeth of itue Not);( Earl opposite, it was impos-
sible for btu, n.. 1 to asides' a 'ew words to the
[louse He was sore their Loidships would- at
once sue how impos,ide it was for him to enter
inio any defence rat Isis colleagues or hinutelt re-
spectitig the advice they had given to his
Nlitjesty oti this subject. But mutts the time
'u'sld Come hen ke should be enabled to ex-
plain the natore and cause of that advice, he
trusted the I-I se 01111 give them credit for not
Ita‘•ing sittos-k t,ont givitt4 their Sovereign Aral
advice hick their duty revited tst them. He could
lay h 5 hail oil t is (least, and most soletuhly
say, it it was the last hour in titbit!' lie had to
live• that, since the fitst petits(' of his existence
There was no business in %%filch he hod had to
*sets -0 pail, id ,4I his feelings, nor one in which
his Maje,ty's Mtaisters had acted with more re..
gaud to the tiouniir and dignii y of the Crown, or
their disty to their `..,.overrign. He..cotild not,
however, nosti enter on Cite nature of, or the mo-
tites for, that ; but he would say that no
disgrace could sottteli•co that House, for reterri.ie,,
as was customary, sealed papers to the examina-
tion 0' a Secret Committee. It was true (nest the
/ions, had consetled adj•,urn the sitting ofiliat
Committee trout time to time; hut that was lone
on the prop:)•ii ioo of the Advisers of the Crown,
who „lute knew the eonteuts sit the papers to be
submitted to it ; and cousequently were alone
capable of tidti,iug 'he House what course it
ought to pursue is this affair. It had also been
said that disgrace attached to his Majesty's
Ministers for their coodoct in the course of
these trattsactions ; at the present moment lie
must only • content himself witit repelling
that assertion, and by affirming that they
had acted throughout Ii great public ground,.
But he would not ask that justice tram the
;Noble EMI opposite, which lie ktiKiiv he could
not expect from him. Still he trusted the House
would do !jut the justice to believe, until the time
should come when he cot& explain himself
that he and his colleagites hail acted upon great
public grounds, and upon those alone ; and that
they had shrunk froitt no advice (sr the conse-
quences of ii) which it was their dusty to give on
matters of so much momeut.

Earl SPeNCHR said, it was his ditty to respect
the opinions and decisions of 1113jOrk ICS Of that
House; but he thought that the granting the.
Committee in the first instance was a very wrong
measure ; because the House might have thereby
prejudged a case on which it might afterwards
have hail to-sit in judgment. Th6t, indeed, might
be the case ever, now, .and then they would• see
what disgrace they would fall into.
Lord ELLENBOKOUGH said, that if he could
have agreed wi h the Noble Earl-(Grey's) speech,
be could not, like him, have consented to a Post-
ponement of the Meeting of the Committee.
But he agreed to it on the sante principle as that
on which all the former adjournments lt►►d taken
place, namely, the advice of the Ministers of
the Crown. The adjournments of that House
had not been regulated by those of the other House
of Parliamt:nt ; but the same circumstances haul
acted on both, [tamely. it hope of an amicable ad-
justunent. Still, in his ()pillion, no hope existed
that Ministers could ever arrive at that happy ad-
justment without the interference and assistance
of Parliament, by the latter taking the whole ne-
gociation into its own hands. From die time that
the Message was sect down to Parliament all hope
of a❑ adjustment was at an end, in bis opinion,
unless Patliament were to take tl►e arraugeu►ent
into its own bands ; a measure which he could
not consider as derogatory to the dignity of either
of the parties.
Lord HOLLAND said, that it was a notable rea-
son for Parliament putting off still farther this
matter, that there was no chance of obtaining all
amicable arijustment. It had been said that the dig•
pity of the House had not been compeomised, for the
same causes had operated on- both Houses at
once ; but it was a strange circumstance that
these causes exactly operated in the House of
Lords just twenty-four hours after they had taken

v:iect in the other [louse of Parliainent. The No-
ble Lord had in lofty toile a.serted that be had
acted on principles of honour awl propriety—no ,ne
railed the Noble E irl's motives in question; but the
conl,Loo longer go no without explanation,
in order to know really what the reason for th,se
repeated adjournments was ; they could not ,do
this any ionger, especially on tile asset tions of
those who hid triett to shirt trom themselves all
their own ofseial respoli,ihility upon Parliament.
lie could not say that this was an nninatii-tnien-
tary course.; yta fie would say it was one they
were not authorized to follow by ;he Constitution.
They got a host ut papers, npon which they either
would not or cOuld not make iheir minds tip, and
then they called upon Parliament to take all the
odium upon itself, which ought to attach to Mi-
nisters.

Lord ELLENBORoUGH explained.

Lord ERSKI-NE supported the Mo!ion for
Adjournment. lie had not changed his opinion
that if any inquiry were necessary. it' Ought to
fake place before, a .Secret Committee. If there
i.ad been matter of Impeachment against her Ma-
jesty, the Ministers of the Crown (fever could have
proceeded in this matiner against her; because
then the House would have prejudged her. But in
erios«pietice of the Negoeiit ions which Ministers
had had with her Majest y,they seemed to admit that
she was blameless. Ministers ought either to
take the Green-nag off the I ahte ; or else they,
who knew what that bag contained, should bring
forward their charges against her Majesty in or. I
tier to degrade her from tier rank, it they thought
her conduct deserved it. But he hoped in God
the'Bag would he taken oti the table altogether.
Lord DARNLEY considered that the conduct of
Ministers in this unfortunate aff..ir had been a•
series of false moves, beginning with that of ex-
cluding her name from the Liturgy. The conse-
quence of that was, that her Majesty determined
to come at once to this country boldly to face her
accusers. The moment .she koded Ministers
threw on the table a bag containing charges
against her, and an immediate Secret Committee
was appointed, and would have sat but for the
decisiOns of rite other House. This was the dis-
grace which had fallen on the Moose.
The sitting of the Secret Committee was then
postponed till Tuesday.
On the 11-lotion of the Marquis of LANSDOWN,
tie Select Committee appoitited to inquire
the state of Foreign Trade, was etnpoweted to re-'
port from- time to time to the House.

1 t►e I\l4l it►e Muti►►y Bill was read a third time
itt►il pa3std.—tl(ijoituned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

The SPEAK BR look the Chair at a quarter be-
tore four atterwards, the House
was sutninoned to attend the House of Peers to
Ise.r the Royal Assent giten to certain Bills which
had passed both Houses.—(For the of the
Bills, yule Lords.) ,

NOTTINGHAM ELECTION COMMITTEE.
Mr. WEsTE,RN bronv,ht up the Report of the Committee
appointed to examine into the me,its of the Petition of
Messrs. Smith and Rot lest on, against the return of the sit-
ting Members for Nottingham. The heron declared, that
the sitting. Members Ind been duly elected, and that the Pe-
tition' which had been presented against them was both fri-
volous and vexatious.

Mr, COURTENAi moved, that the adjourned discussion
on the motion tor the re-commital of • the Exeter Market 13111
should be resumed.

The discussion was accordingly returned, and after a short
conversation, in which the Sp Mier, Lard Ehrington, Sir
Thomas Adam!, and Mr. J. Benett joined,. the motion fur
re-committing the Bili was au iced to without a divisioa.
t_,UHVEN lmr<mght in his Bill for the bettersprotec-
lion of Patentees, which was read a first time, and ordered
for a second reading thi, day foltaight.
The narues of the Defaulters at time Ballot on Monday last
were-read over, and the Defaulters +sere severally utdered to
be in attendance on Tuesday next. •
THE QUEEN. ,

Mr. WILDP.RFORCB rose on being called upon
to submit his promised Motion to the House. The
lion. Member began by stating, that, notwith-
standing the anxious desire he felt to bring this
subject before the House, so paintid and oppres•
sive a task.did he feel it to be, that were it not
for the imperious sense of duty by which be was
urged to proceed, he should have shrunk from the
attempt. He must indeed have beets supported
by that kindness which he bad experienced
throughout- the whole progress of the business,
and still more by the conviction which had been
so decidedly confitmed by the disposition evinced
by the House, that they also concurred in one
universal desire to prevent, it possible, the adop-
tion of that fatal inquiry, which, if his motion
were rejected, must' be ent-ered upon. It was
these impressions that had operated to the sup-
port of his mind.; and it was what he wished the
House to continue to bear in mind. He entreat-
ed the House, at this early period of the business,
to remember that if any thing in the course of
the effort he was about to make, should arpear
either defective in argument or weak in statement,
that if something were not done to prevent that
fatal inquiry, he (Mr- Vtlilherforce) was impresied
with the idea that the greatest of all evils, one
which he dared not to contemplate, would accrue
,to the country, He wished also to lay up for
himself a claim upon their indulgence, if, in the
course of his address, he should say 'any- tiling
which might have the appearance of a want of
that entire respect which he felt for the parties
concerned. reeling so acutely es he did tke
hit.Ph importance of the quesiloo, he was scarcely
fit to handle it; and if he should he betrayed into
any of that warmil► which the case might so na.
totally lead to, he trusted it would not be reg,,rd..
ed.—(llear, heat !)—And although' he should be
most scrupulously attentive lint to otter such, yet
it be should, he hoped it woultl.be ascribed rat,ber

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to weakness thau to intention. There was otie
other point tee %din h he wisl:ed to bevenk the-
concurring feelings of the llote,e ; rents mberorg
the !rectifier circumstances lit ,AlliCh they Weer
placed on this oCcat,i-h, and of the cause they had
to dispose of, they molt; bear in mold, that al-
hough it might he wi,led the, all area, oes diet
might be adopted with respect to it should be
consistent with the principtes of the Constitetion,
yet a case might be couceived, sod' as the one
they were then called to decide upon, in which
it might not he possible altoeethet to adluele.scat
those technicalities, which however nn Dee ace
knowledged the importance of mere ihen liontelte
He could not help hot rowing also, her consi-
deration, which ought .to be tevoureble w the
step he was about to recommend, from toe pa-
pers that were then before him. This was, that
it was obvious tliet the Queen's Law AdtiisCl.6
could only wish that House to prosecute end to
tioish the proceeding in case, lo,the same spirit,
rind with the some -moderation . and temper, in
which all the correspondence between them
and his Alaj-sty's Alit isters had been 'carried on.
He alluded particularly to the conference which
was to be found, he believed, in peg,: 6, of these
papers ; where it stated, " That the persons tram,
ltd to frame an arratigemeut, although reptesente
ing differeut interests, should consider themselves
in discharge of their duty not as opposed to each
tether, bet as acting in concert, with a tiew
frame an arrangement in compliance with the title
derstood wish of Parliament, which may avert the
necessity of a public iegoily into the ioformation
laid . before the two Houses." lii th'at spitir lie
hoped the Home would conduct the business they
bad to dispose of ; that they would not consider
themselves as two parties, nor as being called up-
on to act merely for the interests of the King or
the Queen ; but that they wet e called upon to
discharge a duty, in the part they were to per-
form, which they might lock back upon here-
after wi;li pleasure, and which ;hey- might fear-
lessly present l'or the approbation of their Constie
tueots. They were to look upon it, that the dusty'
they were now called on to perfolnu was, to frame
an arrangement, which it. was the ineplied wish of
Parlimment that it should be-entesert into with a
view to avoid the distressing alternative of a pub-
lic inquiiry., He called upon them just for one
moment to consider bow it was mattets had been
,brought to their present situation.. On the
Queen's arrival, Pipers bad been laid before the
?;louse, contaioingcrrtaio charges which were
brought against her Majesty, and which it was
proposed to investigate. Upon this being tore
really proposed, in making a motion to which his
judgment and feelings had prompted him—in ask,
ing the House to pause for a short time, in order
that efforts might be made to avoid the necessity
of examining into these Papers, he had scarcely •
anticipated-ale- ueivelsal feeling of the House by
a second of time. Accordingly that pause was
er-auted, and the ,comritunicetions On paper, and
the. confetences which followed between his Ma-
jesty's Ministers and the LAW Officets of tire
Qeeen, were now before them. It was not his
intention to go into the minute particuiars of
those papers, but be Toll 'retirark, 14k:re be went
any farther, that. those 'coaferences seem to have
been conducted le a manner toueliy tree fioni all
angry feelings, but as. if the parties leal but one
common ieterest in view, lie owned that his
hopes lied been considerably raised, even by the
single circtonstence of the appointmrnt of petsons
ou birth sides, for the purpose of cart ying on the
negociation ; sod he could not but feel a confi-
dent hope that sonic means would be found of
averting the evils of inquiry, It was because he
did indulge in the hope of that taking piece, that
Ire was encouraged to take the step which he now
did.. He considered that these two parties, al-
though they might nut find themselves exactly
able to agree, they might so far approach to ellen
other, that the subsequent interposition of Persia- -
ment might preva:l on limn to think the breach,
if not entirely closed, was still capable of being
so. Such was the state of the bu:iness at the
present period, arid it was natural it s .ould be
so ; for they would see that agents could not con-
cede vita so far, for fear of misconstruction of
their motives, as that Loose, standing in the po-
sition of a third party, could do. The House, in
truth, could go farther in its advances towards a
reconeiliation than either of the parties themselse s.
in continuation of his detail of the course the
proceedings had hitherto taken, he had to Fecal
to their recollection, that they had hid the great
misfortune of seeing the conferences which
had taken place closed without an amicable
termination. But., upon a careful review of the
papers containing the substance of the negocia-
tions, he must say, that so far from his hope hee
ine extinguished, it was confirmed as to the pos-
sibility of an arrangement being finally adopted.
to considering what course of proceeding offered
the best hope of putting an end to the ernheppy
differences which prevailed, two modes had 5114-
gested themselves. The first, which he confessed
he had been willing to adopt, was that of endea-
vouring to prevail upon the House to agree to
some Address, halving in view to recommend are-
currence to arbitration, for the purpose of closing
the breach, and of effecting an amicable adjust-
ment. Butt upon a nearer view, it did appear to
him that Oleic were such insuperable objections,
on the pain of the Hioise, that lie would not he
able to catty this into ; and that even after
carrying it into effect, the difficulties of secome
'dish ment would be too flume! one to be Hire
mounted. 'I hat proposition, therefore, lied given
way to another, which, after meture retieciiou,
under all circumstances, 1)e had conclud,'d was the
most preferable orie for adoption. lle ought to
take this opportueity of eXpliiirlittg to the House,
that the delay which lied. occurred in his let ingiug

thli motion wa3 owing to I,is itsving re-
ceived a communicalkm from her Majesty which
had tequired his utmost coniideration, and re-
quited that he should change the plan of his pro-
ccetlings. Hr should say nothing more on this
furthtnr than that he had received a second
communication explanatory of the first. He dared
tint say that these documents in themselves held
cut itt,nvs that her Mljesty would acquiesce
in'thcviews he entertained. HaVirg since had
an opportuni'y of stating to her Mdjesty the MO'
t :yes by which he was actpa-ed, he found that
leer Majesty had no other knowledge of the na,
turn of his inw.ded tno iOll than what had been

collected trout .jeucral report. measure which
lie had afrtrwards come to the conclusion of adopt•
th4t.of that a 111• solution be

ras,=c4l, the ol:ficer of Av ilich was .earnestly to ex•
press a hone, that her Nlajesty, rtuls that the
Wifelences seemed to be so nearly doot-
try:':' rniei.t be prevailed upon, tinder all the
cl.rf:litnstanceA, to waive tire only 'coo:rifling
differences, On grotituls which lie should state,
1:11,-11 lie carne to the motion itself. It vronld
be lenlrnibered, that the ultimate diff:reuce be.
tweet) the Kin,fs Servants rind the Law- Of-
-11:•ers of the Q teen relarvi to two points, viz.
the causittL: her Maievy to be aclinokelcilv.eil pub-
licly as f.jiieen ot England Foreign Cu lets, nod
the restoration of I.er Niajesiy's name in the. Li-
torgy.—(llear!)—tie wished it to Lie otisei vet!,
that it wO4 in one part of these papers vittually
Fichnowler4zed, that the objeciou to giving het

Majesty a full introduction to one of the Foreign
Courts abroad!, although there were almost iusu-
perable objections tO it, could neverdheless he gut
o%m He referred to that part o hick stated,that
" after mature retit•rtion, on the suggestion of
her M-tj-sty's Law Officers, if possible to meet the
Qdeen's wishes, and in ordcr. the better to assure
to her Majesty everrsuitable respect and atten-
tion within the particular State in which she
might think fir to esvddisb her residence ( lie
Dplilanese or the Roman Stares having b'-en
previonslysuggested by her Majesty's Law Offi-
cers as the alternative within her illojvity's
templAtiot!), chat the King %you'd cause official
notification to be made of her Majesty's legal
character as Qyeen, to the Government of such
State ; tha, consistently however with the rea-
sons already stated, it must rest with the Sove-
rkign of such,State.%:hat,reception should be given

. • .
to her Majesty in that character. The Ring could
not with propriety' ivquire any point of Foreign
';'Gnverornetits.; the refusal of which would not
afford his Majesty jitt gronnds tor remonstrance."
This la:ter assertion he conceived all mina be
ready to ccmei.ir with ; nor could it be supptn.ed

that-the king of this Cohntry could havp the

power of dictating to Foreign Sovereigns, -:On
view of this part of the negociation,. be thought
that that, point of nitfrreoce might be considered
as in aurae degree settled. The next difference
vas, the restoration of her Majesty'sernatne to tne
Lit orgy. To this, he ceofesseid, he did not ascribe
s.omuch importance as he hail,
at. fist been in=
clined to do, although- ha %Vat: far from ,ontier,
_valuing it in a general Sense. He wished it to.be
understood that it did not strike him, after mature
reflection, that this otrjeciitot wus to be viewed as
Opplylig in a religious sense. in corning to this
.conelusioli he had experienced great relief. It
, . . ,
«+e the eeeuliAr heauty, of that ae:rorabie system
of worship which prevailed in this Country, that
it tended, in a considerable degree, to level all dis-
.tinetion of ranks ;--ancl. 0111 all appeared in that
state of 'quality which was the best ineparation
for our future Rthre.. tie well remembered an
oecasien When the Head of the Chetch of Eng-
4antimade an .elnqont appeal in public 0; this
ppitatee—he meant on the subject rif that character
:of the Church of England which, united all in one
common level before the Creator, Governor, and
littler of the Universe. He would state fairly that
Ire had asked many who 114(1 told him that they
conceived, under the phrase of " the King and all
the rest of the. 1601 Family," the Qiteen was
iehainly inchided.—(Cheers.)--tie would ask the
Hon. Gentlemen whether they ever heard the
triention of all the Royal Family Without thinking
of the doyen ?—(Laughter.)-1t had been usual,
sometimes by name,and sometimes not, to express
individualS in. the form of prayer ; for instance,
when :be Heit'Presnmptive of-the Crown was
mentioned, the ;rattle of that Illustrious Individual
was' Meant to he understood.--(blear.)---The
Duke of York did not suppose that he was exclude
ed from the Liturgy because his, name was not
Mentioned. But be conceived that it could not
be considered that her Majesty was excluded
from the Liturgy because she was not men-
tioned, in a religious sense. He was strength-
ened in this opinioo.from the circumstance of this
point's tieing so treated on both sides that it was
not on the ground of religious scruples. The best
proOf that it was not looked upon of importance
was, that it was not mentioned at ell until they came
to their conferences, either on the sole of the
King's Servants, or of the Law Officers of her
141aHty. It was therefore impressed on his wind
that this was not felt to be a point of that itn.•
portance to the parties, which et first view he was
induced to think it was. He thought, that most
probably the persons on the part of the Queen in
the neeociation. would heel it their duty to urge
many things as her Majesty's Legal Advisers,which,
us Members of Parliament, they might not think
worthy of so much attention. He would pass from
this goestioo to the papers be was about to read, for
the purpose of showing that it was not in a reli•
gieus point of view the point was insisted upon.
it would be seen, by a reference to the printed
account of the n,•gociation, that after the appoiut-
ment of the Duke of Wellington and Lord Castle-
reagh to hold conferences with her Majesty's Law
Officers, the latter G n entleme asked, " whether,
in the event of the proposition relative to the re-
storation of her Majesty's tiame to the Liturgy
not being adopted, any other proceeding could be
suggested on the part of his Majesty's Govern-
ment, tvhich might render her Majesty's residence
abroad consistent with the recognition of her
rights, and the vindication of her character; and
they specially pointed an the official introduction
of her Majesty to Foreign Courts by the King's
Llioi:oers abroad."—(Hear, Lear!)—'Tat was
ado:juke therefore that an equivalent to the
to; ner demand could he made.—(Hear, hear,
hear!)--Nor was this a suggestion thrown out at

• eenlom, nor was it to hit looke4 upon as aTran-
sient feeling, for it would be found by a refer, uce
to the printed papers, that her Majesty's Law
Officers proposed it a second time. He meant to
argue . by these observations, that the objection
was not on religious ground's ; and he contended
that it was et:it-meant that her Majesty should not
be remembered in the prayers of her people—elaer
mime was certainly implied, although he acknow-
ledged it was not the must respectful way,—
(Hear, hear l)—He declared that he was not
actuated by a feeling of preference either on one
side or the other on this delicate and vastly itn-
portaet question. He only desired most ardently
to ai•oid the opening of that Green Bag.—
(Laughter.)—The manner in which his last ob-
servation bad been received by the House, served
to show that a ludicrous association once attached
to a subject, would, however set iously the evil
might he dispo,ed, intrude itself upon it at the
most truseasonable moments. Therefore, if when
he had mentioned that name, these was a smile
on iris lips, he Could assure them there was is pang
at his heart —(Hear, hear'.)—That part of the
Papers to which he last alluded gave bins the
greatest satisfaction, and afforded hint the best
consolation as to the result of his motion, It was
something which cheered and Ohm:hotted the dark
shadows which seethed to pervade this subject,
and called upon Pdrliament to devise something
which would answer the purpose of a ‘4 recogni-
tion el her Mujesty's rights, and a vindicatiou of
her character at Foreign Courts." He thought
;hat the solemn assurance of Parliament; that it.
l:er Majesty did make that coucessioo, which they
eeruestly supplicated her to do, it would net be
considered as in-.tiny way giving assent to any of
the Charges against her, but as a generous eeeri-
bee of her Majesty's feelings to the unauimous de-
sire of Parliament, would answer that end,—
(Hear !)—Here it was that be found the ground
fur his motion ; and he conjured his Hon, and
Learned niervi, and all the Members of that
House, to consider whether in this motion they
had not found that very expedient—that very al-
ternative which they were in search of. It might
to be borne in mind, that -the restoration of her
Majesty's mime to the Liturgy would not have the
effect of clearing her Majesty's character abroad.
It :night probably have 'hat effect in Scotland ;
but on the Continent it could not be supposed to
produce the same feeling,. because our Liturgy
was as little known there as it eves in China. or
Japan. For a short time, a few praise-worthy
itolividuala had made the most zealous effoies
to establish the I.)rotestatit form of worship at
Rome for the benefit of our resident comply-
men there, but it had not been permitted by
the. head of all anthem hies in that quarter. He put
it to the Legal Advisers of her Majesty, whether
Hey stigma could attachto her honour in the eyes
of Foreign Princes by a compliance with the ex-
neeeed anxious desire and supplication of the Pare
beaten( of the Country. He was sure, if he might
use the expression, that there was so usurp Eloglish
stuff in beteMajesty's composition, that she would
readily'giste up:her...own teelloge to the wishes of
Parliament. It Gentlemen would calmly consider
the important advantages that wooll result from
an amicable termination of the existing differences
and the great, the inevitable evils, which must re-
i• suit Irani going Into the proposed inquiry, they
would feel how extremely desirable it was that
they should avail theinselves of this last opening
for effecting an accommodation ; and he, if 0113
-e44ild be accomplished, should tepid himself se
the. most fortunate man that had ever lived, for
the pert which-he had taken towards producing
sce happy a change: He wished Gentlemen On
both sides Of the House to give their imaginations
fair play, and exercise their judgment on this
question, uninfluenced by any patty feeling ; anti
acting OW; be flattered himself that they would
not be disposed to decide against the present mo-
tion merely because it might' be open to some
objections. Th .ought to remember, that they
had bet a choice of evils, and that if the propo-
Sit hen with which he shookd conclude were re-
jected, they must submit tO all the incalculable
evils of the inquiry.. Those evils he would not
attempt to specify, for if he were to go ioto-some
of them, the 'effect of his doitsg so would be to
-suggest those very ideas, frons.which he turned
away with disgust,: and which he would willingly
exclude from the mind of every men, woman, and
child. He hoped then, that the consequences of
carrying and of 'rejecting the motion would be
well considered before the important question was
decided. if his motion were carried, and the pro-
position which it contained acceded to by the
Queen, no lihmiliation 'could attach to her for
taking such A course. The Nation would per-
ceive, what her Majesty must feel, that Much:had
been given up td her, if something was still with-
held which she had conceived ought to he cons
ceded, and she would not be rekfarded as surren-
deriog any rights at all involving her character
and her honour, but as yielding what, without any
unworthy compromise, she felt free to give up in
the compliance with the expressed! wish of that
Houses lie again most earnestly called on all
parties to took.at. the sitnati,m in which the King
and the Queen—that House—and above all—the
Country—would be p!aced, if it because necessary
to enter into floe inquiry.' Should the evils .which
he contemplated be unhappily realizede--should
the present Motion be rejected, he hoped it would
hereafter be remembered by those whom it might
most nearly concern, that there was a time, when,
by carrying this motion, an opening would have
been made, by which an amicable arrangement
might have been effected, as he conceived, wilontt
in any way degrading. her Majesty or any other
pally—when Ho accommodation might hate been
brought eshout by giving up her own feelings to
the expressed wish of the House of Commons.—
If soy defeat appeared its Iris argument, he hoped
his deficiencies would be supplied by the dreadful
alternative before them ; anti ()! might time clot-
sideratioo of the vast, the unknown evils, the '
contentions and the recriminations which would
flow from the inquiry, induce the House, ere yet
it was too late, and induce her Majesty to take.
that couree. which Would...avert proceedings so
fatal to the interests of all -parties, and so injurious
to the dignity of the Crown and the tranquillity
of the. Country. He wished to add, it was his
sincere desire that the Ki'sg and Queers, the Par-
liament and the Country, should fed that they

1-fat one cOlialOn eallSe pqr6ue, Am/ that
the interests of all parties were the saute. He
felt persuaded that the course which he was about
to recommend- to the House to pursue was that
which it would become them to take, and that the
task which he would assign to them was that
which could only he imposed on 'a dignified anti
important, body-7-was the highest that they could
be required to take upon themselves, as it called
ott them to act as a mediator between two per-
sonages of such exalted rank. fie hoped the pro-
position with which he was about to conclude
would meet with their approbation. If he should
be so unfortunate as to fail, his consolation would
be, that he had done all in his power to effect a
termination of the existing differences in the Royal
Family, by again calling on the [louse to con-
sider in the sante spirit which had been manifested
in every part of the fate conferences, to avoid it
possible the necessity of enterim4 into that inquiry,
the evils of which could never be over estimated,
and which must be productive of the most injuri
ons consequences to all parties concerned in them,
as well as to the Empire at large. lie concluded
by moving a Resolution, stating,

"That that House had learnt, with unfeigned and deep
regret, that the late endcavours• to frame an amicable ar-
rangenient with a view to avert the necessity of instituting
so inquiry into the information laid before the two Houses
of Parliament, had not led, to. nn adjustment of the differ-
ences now unhappily existing in thu Royal Family, so
anxiously desired by that House and by the Country that
that House was fully sensible of the difficulty which her
Majesty might justly feel in taking upon herself to relinquish
al* point in which her own dignity and honour were involv-
'ed ; vet feeling the inestimable importance of effecting an
amicable and final adjustment of the differences alluded to,
could not but be of opinion, when such large advances had
been made towards meeting the wishes of the Queen, that
her Majesty, by yielding to the earnestly expressed wishes of
the House, and forbearing to press [base points on which
there was most difficulty in coming wan arrangement, would
• nut be understood to do any thing that could mark a Wish
on her own account to avoid an inquiry into her conduct, but
would only give a new proof of her readiness to submit to
the decision of Parliament, thereby entitling herself to the
gratitude of that House, by sparing them the painful neces-
sity of instituting proceedings, and of entertaining discus-
sions, which, whatever might be their result, could not be
other than distressing to the feelings of her Majesty, disap-
pointing to the hopes of Parliament, tleregatory to the dig-
nity of the Crown, and injurious to the best interests of the
Empire."—(Hear, hear, hear !)

—He would add one word more : He could al-
most wish, for ,he first time, that the eloquence
of the Hon. Uentleman near him were this night
to be exerted, rather in his character of a Mem-
ber of Parliament, than in that of an Advocate
for the Queen ; for in the' latter charac er he
feared that he might consider it to be his duty to
find objections to the course which he (Mr. Wil-
berforce) had recommended, that he would not
seek to discover in the former capacity. He hop-
ed the Hon. and Learned GentleMPn would dis-
miss any feeling like that which be had supposed
he might have ; and that he, remembering that
the konottr of her Majesty was connected (as he
hoped inseparably) with the honour and interest
of this country, would feel that her honour
could not be better sustained and her interests
better consulted, than by yielding to the wishes
of that Ilouse.

Mr. S. WoHTLav thought the House and the
country could ant desire a befter pledge than they
had in the character of the lion. Gentleman who
had brought that 'question before the House, that
it was dictated by a sincere desire to heal the dif-
ferences known to exist in the Royal Family, and
had nothing to do with party. It the Motion
were rejected, he thought no course was left open
for them but to proceed (aware as they all pro-
fessed to be of the evils which must follow) to
enter upon the inquiry. They must then proceed
to look into the information which had been laid
before the House ; and, for months to come, the
country would be plunged into a state'of agitaiion
which every friend to it must sincerely deplore.
The Hon. Gentleman bad rightly stated, that the
door was still open for accommodation. To
him it seemed opened for the list time, and he
hoped that an agreement would now be come to,
such as had been recommended in the course of
the late negociation ; an agreement under which
the Queen would not be supposed to admit any
thing with which she had been charged, nor the
Government to retract any thing that had been
advanced on the part of the King. It was the
opinion of those with whom this motion Lad ori-
ginated, that they now pointed out a mode by
which this most desirable object could be effected.
In the consultations that had been had on the
subject, they hail endeavoured most anxiously
to divest them Selves of all party views, and
the course now adopted had'been preferred, be-
cause it was thought that it would be beneficial
to all parties, He bad only to add, that en-
tertaining this opinion of it, the motion had his
hearty concurrence, and he now begged to second
it. •

Mr. BaouGHam said, he rose thus early in the
debate, on account of an indispUsition under which
he laboured, and which might prevent him from
delivering his sentiments at a later hour. He
should endeavour to express himself on this im-
portant question with candour, with a sincere re,
spect for his lion. Friend,'end in concurrence
with what he conceived to be the-feelings of the
country. He would now call the attention of the
House to the result of the late negociations, and
the unfortunate failure that had taken place. But
although they had failed, he would declare it as
his opinion, that in the course of these nego'cia.
lions not a little had been gained for her Majesty.
For the only basis on' which the Queen would
consent to treat, was, that of being fully acknow-
ledged in her high rank and title, and this basis,
although at first refused, was now fully acknow
ledged. The only point in which she was always
inflexible, that which admitted of no alternative,
and for which she looked op to 'no equivalent, was
an unqualified recognition of her rights and privi
loges as Queen of England ; and that recognition
was granted before ever the conferences were open-1
cc!. He should notice-another material'point which
.had been gained by her Majesty. Without at•
tempting to,impute blame to any, body,- he must
say, (het the Queen, 0/3 her artiv-al lately in this

Counne, veal no: (reatei iri aferi *Ay with till
respect which was due to her exalted tank. 13'1,
since the commencement of the negociatious, •
very different treatment was proposed to be ob;
served towards her ; for inakead of being allow°
to travel in a common packet,-1111 the pomp, priede'
and circumstance, which usually attended the
voyages of the higliest Royal Personages; were
now offered to her, in case of her departing front
the Country. Some persons might say, that 116
overrated those advantages ; but these tiro!i
things were of considerable moment ;•
they were of as much value, as the omission °
them would be a mark of degradation. in 0/
instance, therefore, a material point had bee°
geined. There was another circumstance,
ever, where no small advantage was gained'
It the Queen was not to be recognized at To
reigo Courts, somethiog very nearly applascW
ing to such recognition was conceded to bet,
In whatever Country she should reside on:. tbd
Continetit, she was to he announced to tle
Court of that Country by the Representative of tlir
Sovereign as Queen of England, and there to 64
treated as such. And last of all, there was a int'
ther proceeding, which he did not considet as
immaterial. That was the Consent given, [hat
addresses should he ',resettled to the giog
and Queen by both Houses of ParliarneiOr
that these addresses should be presented' It/
them together. Now let any one recollect'
that, about four mouths bsCk, no Gen:Acute':
on the Ministerial side of that noti.se eoril"
venture to mention the name of the Qicell
that stone, in their allusions to ber, calla'
her " the Distinguished Peraonaee,"
others the 'rHigh Lady ;" and that there ,07
every kind ot circuteilocution and studied periplite
sis, to avoid the mention of 'a
title which was
admitted doting the late conferences. Now, be'
sides the recognition of the title; she was to little
ships of war to attend her she was to he ?tl'
flounced in foreign Courts ; and to receive,:
dresses from both Houses of Parl:am'ent.
would ask thee, it it Were nothing to have g4laeli •
However, the Queen's advisers might have net
solved to proceed upon the inquiry, a'nd ttietjteli
the green hag, he would ask whether iebehowe'
Parliament to sanction the QUeee's resistant e:
until a step further was granted. It fled brae
said, that the question of the Liturgy 'was not wc
much a sine qua non, as a thing that ought n°
to be contended for. He.coold at once ,super
sede the pecessity of this atgumente The /
turgy certainly was not so far a sine quct ges'
as not to admit of an equivalent. Her O'a,
jesty required such a basis, as should 040
port her honour aod her dignity. When 11,0
►
question of residence came to be diseussed,ia
late conferences, it was considered that, Wia
motives of convenience to the Q teen herself, oarie
from the inconveoience which would arise if Of
separate Courts ‘:rere held in . ;pis conntlll4
might be more agreeable to her Mjesty's
and more conducive to tier personal eatdOrer
to go abroad. The question then was, *heti' I
such departure front the totintry would not 1.:1
liable to great miscoesiroctione wt charg,
were still hanging over her. Majesty, withoot bee
ing rebutted and whether something was no! 'a
be done, ill order to prevent suc) toisconstrnei"'
of her Majesty's conduct. Her legal advi;ef"
therefore, in miler to settle this matter tits?". ligia
qeired that ht±r name should be restored to I,rsj
Liturgy. Having assisted at the negocieti"l
lie thought it necessary to state this fact.
what lie was in the habit of
places—from what he could colleet.tO be Ole Selc'e,
of that House, and front the overwhelming
rity which was known to exist in favour 0 f I.tiog
Queen among the people out of doors, he /r
-le
sure that the restoration of tier Majesty!. naole.'o,
the Liturgy would render the success of a oeba
elation certain, without the possibility of a,/
dishonour to her Majesty.--(Hear, beS"e.it
He solemnly assured the House, that iesr
very thing would produce all the effect t
could be wished, tor, anti he was sure ti.itees
was the only remaining obstacle towards 00 0
commodation. By placing the name in for: 1,
tergy, every obstacle would be, surmoO'Lless
This was a fact which he had no more )10;04
thin in asserting, than that lie watonow steit'ece
on the floor of that- House. Without meeot').'')o
throw any blame against Minisie s, to whow
haft been so often opposed in that 1-lottse?,ril
must, in common with numbers'of omit era, e,sPi'yl
Iris deep regret at the omission of her 31Wsi-,r,0
name its the Liturgy ; but by how much the Ot)
the act`ought not to have been done, by 90 US
the moue ease it might now he undone. It e9''etis
now be with every kind pt propriety undoee,4o4
the ground that the doing it was not only 1,1
Ode but illegal—(Hear, hear !)—Titere tbf
law io the country %% hid) gave a power i")eill
King to alter the Liturgy by an Order 019
The law said, that in all prayers relating I°, fratl
Royal Family, the names should be •hatige"siant
time to time, and fitted to the present ocee tuff
Nothing more was done titan this :--that at 4
demise of one Sovereign, the name of ts°folon
was inserted ; and instead of Queen C4ar
the veto: cis Queen Caroline oughtve now to o
s sto;ieof
the Liturgy. This, he conceid, to be
for Parliement, to enable it to get out
great difficulty in whidi it was 'low piaceti. flt 4.
was no answer to his argumt,nt to say, t"0t.1..
Queen was prayed for along with the bear:.
Members of the Royal FeMily—(flear' as'ao:3o
hear !)--Whether the exclusion of o°o3' tOse
did or did not 'exclude her Majesty f" nom
prayers of time Church, was not the glieSticit
th
t be consideted ; for it did too follow tit 0 tet'
I".;..bug ought to have oniered that. (Acitisian ;lie oe,
place. The real question a as, whetherio
was not unlawful and uneoustitutional•
rjedol4(7!-:
tens of this kind, every thing was. deg 1,,?!
which was contrary to old eitahlished 111,;
Former 'Queens of England had alw,sPcity,et
preyed for by name, and to cease thus...
,1 Queen, could only tend to 'degrade Heed
1
eyes of the world. The allto.ion that
vlrso )4
(1,.
1
wade to the Queen of George the .
itot
an offensive aggravetion of the wrong.
n.
been clone in the present instance. His (eureka
had said, that the Deice was ,tot (het cea
mime ; but it should be tiodelsur qe too(
Doke of YONI-, was only heir ct‘
, Clown ; and that, at ,;.ircuras,lslicits 113