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11111 aPPlying it to other purposes than the reduction of debt.— ' able upon this year's Revenue.—The Resolution was -put •and
‘uullsters had yet to receive the remaining part of this thirteen carried.
million of Dead Weight from the Bank. The last payment would It was next moved—
be in April 1828. Unless Government pursued a different course That a sum not exceeding 48,476/. be granted as salaries, &c.
With this fund, they must be adding to the debt, by funding at to the Civil Establishments at the Tower and Pall-Mall.
least five millions a year. If they went on as the Act of Mr. HUME thought a great saving might be
Parliament required, they would incur by the end of the year made, by placing the Artillery Establishment of the one depart-
a debt of 3,600,000/. This would be independent of the ac- ment with what was called the Military Establishment on the
count of the expedition to Portugal. .These debts were incurred other.
in what the Ministers of the Crown called supporting the Sir H. HARDINGE admitted that a saving
honour of the country, Thus they would run on, until they got
might be made—the two services could be amalgamated ; but he,
into a state of bankruptcy, which would eventually be the end of
at the same time, denied that such an amalgation was possible.—
their honour. It was impossible for the Chancellor of the Ex- The resolution was put and carried.
chequer to make one million pay five millions, or to answer the The following resolutions were then put and carried :
public creditor, if he went on as he had hitherto done, France, That a sum not exceeding 9,2551. be granted for the Depart-
Holland, America, and other countries, were paying off their debts, ments at Woolwich.
or reducing taxation, either by husbanding their resources, or That 38,221/. for Stations at Home and Abroad.
keeping their expenditure within their income. England, on the That 3,780/. for the Corps of Master Gunners.
eontrary, if Parliament persisted in voting estimates upon the scale
That 71,7251. for the Corps of Engineers, Sappers, and Miners
of the present year, must add to her already too heavy load of
That 259,136/. for the Service of the Artillery.
taxation. Let Parliament have a full statement of what the Chan- That 29,042/. for the Horse Artillery, Rocket and Riding
cellos' of the Exchequer had determined the expenditure to be. Let Corps.
the House be supplied with an account of what were the expences That 1,2411. for the Field Train.
incurred in Portugal, and how they were to be provided for, and That 7,954/. for the Medical Establishment.
then Parliament would know to proceed. If there should That 4,045/. to the Professors, &c. of the Royal Military
Prove any deficiency in the Ways and Means, it would then be Academy.
in the power of the House to consider whether they could not Upon the grant for Fortifications and Extraordinaries in Canada,
lessen the expenditure, instead of going on to the end of the year,
Mr. BARING asked whether it was true that a
and finding themselves several millions in debt. What was this
proud situation of the country of which the Right Hon. Gentle-
line of fortifications were erecting along the River St. Laurence?
plan boasted? It was merely the situation of an arbitrator, to Sir H. HARDINGE said, that it was preposter-
to settle all affairs except her own. The affairs of Portugal did ous to suppose the erection of 'such 'a line of fortification, but it
not require so much of our management.—(Hear, hear !)—lt be- had been found necessary to erect a garrison at Halifax, not as a
hoved ministers to look at home rather than go abroad, seeking point d'appui, but as a place where stores might be kept ; for it
glory at the cannon's mouth.—(Laughter.)--It was well for was evident, that if the line of our coast defences was once turn.
Persons to look at such matters at a distance, and then fancy that ed, not a single cannister of powder could, without this precau-
. they held a commanding station. But what a picture it was to tion, be kept in safety at Halifax. The Resolution was put
turn over..-,—(Laughter.)—He should be happy to vote upon ac- and carried. .
count what would allow the Ordnance Department to go on for Mr. HUME complained, that there was a charge
three months. That period would be amply sufficient for Mi- of 780/., at Feversham, which was unexplained.
nisters to put the House in a state of information upon the finances
Sir H. HARDINGE said, that-.Feversham was a
of the country, upon the estimated revenue, and total of the in-
depot at which charcoal and saltpetre was established.
tended expences. With this view he had prepared a resolution,
The Resolution was carried. The next Resolutions were—
but whether the House would agree with him or not, he was un-
That 4,652/. be granted for unprovided services.
able to tell.—(Laughter.)--In France, Holland, and other coon- That 126,382/. for ordinary and extraordinary expences, in
tries, the Ministers of the Crown laid before the House what they
Ireland. lntended to call for ; and if this was not approved of by the House,
the estimate was sent back to Ministers, who again laid them be-
Upon the resolution that a sum not exceeding 313,069/. be
g_ranted and
fore the Legislature in an amended state. He asked the House
ureat B, for ordinary
n'tain and Irelandextraordinary expenses in the Army in,
of Commons to do no more, and he was convinced he was acting a
very reasonable part. Mr. HUNIE asked why there had yet been no re-
The. duction in the Half-pay List? He had understood that the Duke
SPEAKER then put the original Question, of Wellington was anxious to employ Officers on half-pay ; but the
with the following Amendment—" That this House does not estimates presented no symptom of any such anxiety. In 1821,
consider it expedient to vote the Ordnance or any other estimates, the amount was 313,703/., and in five years it had been reduced
Until the Ministers of the Crown should lay before the House a only to the extent of 600/. ; so that professions of economy seem-
- statement of the current Expenditure, as well as the Ways and ed now worth as little as ever.

Aleans by which it is proposed to meet that expenditure."

Mr. HUME said, he had no objection to add to
his Amendment—that the House would vote the present estimates
for three months.
Mr. BARING said that the Accounts before the
House were very unsatisfactory, and that Parliament was bound
to accede to the Amendment of his Hon. Friend, or to pursue
some course other than that of passing Estimate after Estimate,
in the manner they had hitherto done. He must also say, that
Members were by far too inattentive to that most important part
of their duty, in examining and checking the finances of the coun-
try.—(Hear, hear.)—ln the Netherlands, and other countries,
When the Minister sent his Budget to the Legislature, it was often
sent back to him to be re-considered ; and it became a Constitu-
tional Monarch to re-consider his demands for money of the Re-
presentatives of the people. Many Members seemed to suppose
that this formed no part of their duty ; whereas it was their para-
mount obligation not to vote Estimates out of compliance to any
Ministers whatever. The extent of the distress which pervaded
the country was never equalled in any period of its history. (Hear.)
Hiwashappy to find, that, in a Revenue of about 50,000,000/., the
decrease, under all the circumstances of distress, was only from
one to one million and a half. This deficiency was not much.
The greater degree of difficulty with which the people paid this
Revenue, the privations and sufferings it imposed upon them,
formed a different subject. He hoped that Ministers would come
• down to the House with a statement of the Ways and Means as
well as of Estimates, and he hoped that the House would support
them in that state of the finances, without which the honour of the
country could not be maintained.
The SPEAKER then put the Question, and the
0
,ttY Was ordered to be cleared, when the Hon. Member for
L'leen withdrew the Amendment.
II The House then resolved itself into a Committee of the whole
use upon the

Mr. MONCK called attention to the charge for

Pensions of Widows and Children of Officers. The French Go-
vernment undertook no such charge ; and to prevent the incum-
brance, compelled Officers not to marry, unless they were rich ;
or, if poor, to unite themselves to ladies who had fortunes. Why
was not a similar course adopted in England.—(Laughter.)
Sir H. HARDINGE said that this bounty was of
a century's standing, and a positive Act of Parliament provided,
that a widow, on marrying again, should not lose her pension.
Mr. HUME referred to the Reports of the Finance
Committees of 1816 and 1817, wherein it was calculated that
after the lapse of ten or twelve years the charge for half-pay would
almost be reduced to nothing. The Hon. and Gallant Member
seemed to wonder 'that the expence was so small after so long a
war; he (Mr. Hume) was astonished that it was so great after so
long a peace.—(Hear.)
Sir H. HARDINGE informed the Hon. Gentle-
man, that by Mr. Windham's Act, the men who enlisted at that
date were entitled to an increase of pension according to length of
service. This was one cause of the extent of the charge. Wounded
pensioners were likewise entitled to larger sums if they could es-
tablish, that, as they advanced in age, their infirmity arising from
their wounds also increased. These men had a right to insist
upon a compliance with the terms on which they had entered the
service. In 1818, a better system had been adopted, and the bur-
den was diminished.—Resolution agreed to.
_ Sir H. HARDINGE proposed a grdnt of 45,3641.
for Civil half-pay and Superannuations.
Mr. HUME apprehended that Mr. Windham's
Act would not apply to the Civil Superannuations. Why, then,
was the charge higher now than in the year 1817 ?
Sir H. HARDINGE replied, that the Honourable
Member had himself been the cause of the principal increase, by
compelling Government to put so many civil officers upon half-
pay, and reducing thereby the clerks, &c. of the Ordnance, which,
in 1819, were 799, to 532, which was their present number. If
a saving were made upon the full-pay, it necessarily followed that
the half-pay would be increased.
Mr. HUME wished to hear how many new Civil
Officers had in the mean time been introduced?
Sir H. HARDINGE answered, that when a va-
cancy occurred, his first inquiry had always been—what officer
upon half-pay could be brought upon full pay by filling it up ?
At present not one remained who could be re-employed. The
rest were either superannuited, or incapable from other causes.
Only three instances had occurred, in which capable half-pay offi-
cers had been excused from serving when opportunities offered for
re-calling for their services.
Mr. HUME expressed his satisfaction, that it did
not turn out to be true that these officers had been turned out of
place by him ; the Hon. and Gallant Member admitted that they
were incapable from age and other causes. He begged to know
whether, within this year, application had not been made by half-
pay officers to be re-admitted to full pay ?
Sir H. HARDINGE said, that a great number of
persons belonging to the Field Train, and who had retired upon
2s. and 2s. 6d. per day, were not of a class, from habits and
education, fit for the situations they had sought to supply. They,
consequently, were continued on half-pay, and not re-employed
in situations to which they were not competent.
Mr. HUME remarked, that if the Field Train
consisted of men so incompetent to other duties, why the country
was called upon to sustain the heavy expence of a Director-General?
properly
the Sir u
Hr: HARDINGE said, that though miscalled
rhaanvte,
been
Director-General
Director
-General Fieldof
tThreaAinr,tililleery, oughtfor
such was his important duty.—The Resolution was then agreed to.
Sir H. HARDINGE next moved, that the sum of
115,2491. be granted for the Barrack Department.
Sir J. GRAHAM took this opportunity of men-
tioning,constantly
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that two troops of cavalry we
atbnedintzekedeepsetrurscotfinCnaorr
nel,ilittoartyhedi
annoyanceseiprlene. He complained that
they were not placed in barracks. •
Sir H. HARDINGE observed, that for the want
of barracks at Carlisle, the Hon. Baronet might, perhaps, have to
thank the Hon. Member for Aberdeen, who had resisted the ex-
pence. It was certainly much better that the soldier should be
kept apart from the general mass of the population.
Mr. HUME opposed the building of barracks, not
merely because it was a useless, but an unconstitutional outlay of
the public It bcp4rated the soldier from the citizen, in-
stead of keeping up good fellowship between them.—Resolution
agreed to.
The sum of 117,077/. for the service of the Barrack Depart-
mant
of Ireland was voted without any remarks.
On the question for granting 135,205/. for the Military Store
Branch both at Home and in the Colonies,
Mr. HUME inquired, why the reduction in this
department had not been greater ?
Sir HENRY HARDINGE said it had. been as
great as possible. In 1819 the Clerks employed amounted to 81,
at present there were only 36. They were reduced from 81 to
36, and the expence from 14,0001. to 3,0001.
Mr. HUiVIE contended, that the department, as
he had before recommended, ought to have been altogether abo-
lished.
Sir H. HARDINGE stated that it was necessary;
and, to shew its efficiency, mentioned that, in twenty-four hours
after his Majesty's Message had been delivered in that House, every
soldier who was ordered for service had all his stores delivered to
him. Such a thing had never happened last war. If 20,000
men had been ordered abroad, the result would have been the
same. It was of great advantage to be able to embark and dis-
embark such a number of troops in perfect order and equipment.
Mr. HUME had not objected to the efficiency of
the department ; that, he considered, was a misfortune. (A laugh.)
We had got our troops there, but how were we to get them back
was the question ?
Sir H. HARDINGE explained, that the Depart-
ments of the Store Branch and the Ordnance were consolidated ;
but there were above 2,000 different articles on charge, which it

ORDNANCE ESTIMATES.
Sir
,HENRY HARDINGE, in presenting the
Ordnance Estimates before the Committee, should briefly state
that they were very considerably lower than those of the pre-
7,eding year. The deductions had not been made without much
"eolty. The Ordnance Estimates of the present year amounted
to only 970,8941., which was 36,777/. less than the Estimates
1:1 the preceding year. Last year he had mentioned to the Com-
43ittee that it was the intention of the Master-General of the
()Nuance to propose an augmentation of seven or eight thou-
land artillerymen, by making companies consist of eighty instead
°t seventy men. Circumstances, however, had not allowed of
this augmentation, and the inconvenience must continue to be
felt until the next year. The head of Extraordinary Services
t_toounted to 223,5521., which was 5,1361. less than the last year.
W hat was termed the Unprovided Head of Account was always
very small. The amount was 4,6521., and consisted only of
cl°l accidental charges as for loss of stores and other unavoidable
ssatto,lties. This part of the Estimates had been kept as low as
co„,lble, in consequence of the frequent recommendations of
it "..rilittees, and the desire of the House. With reference to
4, tandf the vote was 126,382/., which was a diminution of
nano'-71, compared to the Estimate of last year. The Ord-
for, exPenditure of Ireland had continued very nearly the same
of Te last three or four years. A great addition to this head
toe-Ltrge has arisen from the Iris's Survey, taken by the re-
efo°l. t7dation of a Committee of the House. The charge
80,00n14) Survey had increased, in the present Estimates, by
of 9an"" This arose from the employment of another company
of etnliesr!,_and miners in effecting the survey. The experiment
suceessiioing common soldiers upon this survey had proved
taught
to' Those who could not previously
mecha-
read or write, were
nick pro Measure roads and canals. This was merely a .
toa
role
eatetesutsr,yl:vhich they did with credit to themselves and honour
apeeeissofiedi.able hope
The survey was going on rapidly: and there was
that it would be completed within the time
ciro,n
of
...__Whreari complete, it would afford the most perfect spe-
!jelled a., f'..Tog plucal information. The maps would be pub-
conunott fast as possible, and they would be sold cheaper than the.
liarmeks. aPs of the country. The next vote was for English
was 4 a . This anaounted to 115,2491., upon which there
voted
_ecrnsiderahle reduction. Last year, 25,0001. had been
Th_,
_sr.e. the erection of the barracks about the King's Mews.
and,
ult) inmg buildings could not be removed in sufficient time,
Bolandti erefore, the forte is left out of the present estimate. In
n.. the charge Barracks Was 117,077/., being aTeduc-
out'' a1i:'5591, upon the preceding estimate. He could not hold
lervie Prospect
,of
~ any great reduction under this head of
geed of
v_ 111•1/ '
liga of this descripti. in Ireland were in
tight 'Y great repai •
', There was Is, to keep them even wind and water
recruiting depot. a_ charge of 10,000/. in the estimate fora new
--it w„ in a
state The old depot was in a very bad state of repair
14,000/, which of dilapidation. The new depot would cost
charge upon
the preferable to repairing the old building. The
135,165 e estimates, for the military store branch, wad
arises from beingthe 29,2111.. less than last year. This reduction
the House badarcroangements respecting iron bedsteads. Last year
bed. Formerly therenBe consented that each soldier should have a single
%pare in which four had
been in use wooden frames of six feet
IWI been disc 'hen were made to sleep. Thii practice
men in respect to h_.,,, , much to the improvement of the
mqrals.--(Hear, llea7l 47,1 d particularly with respect to their
Vert, W4s a mere transfer fr: last Dart to which he had to ad-
head of the Ordnance. Tlerthe Army Extraordinaries to the
&was one charge to which he
would call the attention of the
charge for repairs of the citadel of
Committee. He alluded to the
been going on since 1820, at the e Quebec.
These repairs had
had been decided that it would be gel:hoe of 12,000/. a-year. It
them be carried on more rapidly; to the more advantageous to let
It was necessary in that cold climate, exth tof 25,000/. perann.
finished before winter, otherwise it was that masonry should be
summer to take down what had been erected :etetsr in
spring or
of the preceding winter. Arapid outlay was, thereefo'ornmencement
a great saving, and this,principle had been adopted
inre, eventually
the works of the citadel of Quebec. There had in thei:ryrying onn
4 redpctien of 104,0001. compared with the comparative ear
been
the year before. One cause of reduction was, that the salarys of
of
the Master-General of the Ordnance, who had recently beetC
ap-
pointed Commander-in-Chief, and which amounted to 3,800/. a year, was not taken by his Grace; and was, therefore, not charge..

and consequently, that there • was an actual- deficiency of
upwards of 4,500,000/.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied to Mr.
MABERLY with the candour which characterizes the Right
Honourable Gentleman. He admitted the deficiency, and
that he had been over sanguine in some of his expectations
of the Revenue of last year, while circumstances, which
he detailed, had increased the expenditure. He showed,
however, that the. Estimate which he had made, some
years since, of the average Revenue, during a series of years,
had been verified, and declared that he should be able to
satisfy the House when he brought forward his annual
expose of the Financial situation of the country, that there
was no good reason to infer that we were not able to sup-
port those Establishments on the maintenance of which
the safety of the country depended. The House then
proceeded on the Ordnance Estimates, which were voted,
and the Report ordered to be brought up on Monday.

The news which burst unexpectedly on us yesterday
afternoon of the approach of a considerable party of the
rebels to Oporto, on which they had meditated an attack,
has been confirmed ; but we are glad to find, that in con-
sequence of the measures adopted by the Marquis D'AN-
JEGA, CONDE DE VILLA FLOR, and General DE MELLO,
the rebels had been compelled to retire from Santa Tierca,
where they had passed the night of the 2d inst.
We subjoin the following most interesting particulars :
LISBON, rEs. 5.

The British troops have received final orders to be in Coimbra
on the 16th. The 43d and 23d march this morning. The rest
of the Guards, the Artillery, and Lancers, set out on Wednesday
and Friday. General Clinton and his Staff also leave for Coimbra
on Thursday,. and on Saturday there s ill not be a British soldier
in Lisbon, except those in the depot and the hospitals. I am sorry
to confirm the accounts I have before given of the sickness of the
men. The severity of the weather, the new wine, and the fatigue
of marching, have laid up several of our poor fellows. Boats are
daily coming down with them from Villa Franca, as there was no
time to prepare hospitals up the country. I suppose there :are
500 unserviceable men in the general and regimental hospitals.—
You will observe how much our force is weakened by
these casualties. lam told the Commander-in-Chief could not
bring more than 4,000 into the field to-morrow ; and if the wea-
ther does not improve, and the rains continue, as the men march
up the country, I fear that number will he considerably lessened in
a short time. Should Chaves defeat the Constitutional army, or
that the country rises in his favour, as many say it will do, the
situation of our small British force will be far from pleasant. If
we are to interfere in this domestic squabble, we should do so with
more power. Ten thousand effective men, is the smallest number
required even for the protection of our national honour. We are
here at a loss to know what the plans of General Clinton are; but
the opinion of most people is that be does not mean, for the pre-
sent, to assist the Constitutional army. His head-quarters are to
be at Coimbra.

TUESDAY, THE 6TH.

The Supplement to the Oporto Impartial of the 3d, with pri-
vate letters of the same date, have been received to-day. General
Stubbs had received from Villa Flor and Anjega considerable re-
inforcements, and was then with 3,000 men at his command.—
The rebels had fallen back from Guimaraens nearly upon Braga,
and the Marquis of Anjega was in possession of the pass of Ama-
rante. Both Oporto and that important pass appear for the pre-
sent to be safe. The private letters from Oporto inform me that
the alarm of the inhabitants had not subsided so muck as the pub-
lic accounts lead one to expect. They have no confidence in the
judgment of the Constitutional Generals, with the exception of
their own brave Stubbs, and they place but little reliance on the
fidelity of the troops.
Our letters say that the terror of the inhabitants-had in a great
measure subsided. The certain union of Villa Flor and Anjega,
the retreat of the rebels from Guiramaens to Braga, with the re-
inforcements received in the city, had removed the fears of its
being obliged to surrender ; but they one and all complain loudly of
the neglect which has been paid to Oporto in the distribution of
the British force.

LONDON,
SATURDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 17, 1827.

We are happy to hear that Mr. CANNING is consider-
ably better. We subjoin the extract of a letter received
this morning from Brighton, which gives some particulars
of the Right Hon. Gentleman's illness :
I have the pleasure to say, that Mr. Canning is a great deal
better ; but is not expected to be able to attend to business for
many weeks. He has been liable to spasms in his eyes and head,
which have periodically (daily) attacked him ; but the pain which
has been very acute, has become much less. He was rendered
worse last week by an alarm, occasioned by Mrs. Canning's clothes
having caught fire, when lie suddenly jumped out of bed to assist
her ; the over-exertion of which effort, combined with the ac-
cession of cold which it brought on, very much increased his
complaint.

We received last night' theFretich Papers of Wednes-
day, and the Maile of Thursday morning. They are filled
with the debate on the project
_of the law regarding the
Press. All the eloquence and argument of the Chambers
seem opposed to the Ministers on this question, and it
seems hardly possible that the measure should be carried
against such powerful reasoning as that of M. CONSTANT'S
speech, and against the general voice of the French nation.
The conduct of the Chamber of Peers, in respect to the
Jury Bill, has not been palatable to M. VILLELE, and
strong rumours exist that a large creation of Peers is to
take place in consequence; amongst these, it is said, that
five Archbishops and twenty-five Bishops are to be in-
cluded, but the Etoile classes this rumour under " Lies of
the Day."
The Journal des Debats contains intelligence from Con-
stantinople to the 12th ult., by which it appears that a new
conspiracy had been discovered, and annihilated by the
usual means of beheading all the chiefs of it. The system
of reform proceeded, and dismissals and banishments of
Paellas continued to take place.
The French Three per Cents. were again rather lower
on Wednesday.
FttExcu FUNDS.-Five per Cents., 101 f. ; Three per Cents.,
68f. 25c. ; Bank Stock, 1,990 E ; Neapolitan, 74f. 50c. ; Spa-
nish Stock, 121 ; Royal Spanish Loan, 521; Haytian Loan,
640 f. Exchange on London—One month, 25f. 40c. ; three
months, 25f. 25c.

The Oporto steam-packet, now in the_ Tagus, has three hundred
Portuguese troops on hoard destined for that city ; but it seems
afraid to put to sea in the present tempestuous weather. The Duke
of Yorksteamer will set them the example to-morrow. You can
best judge of the inefficiency of _ this Government from the fact
that though Oporto was at the last extremity, they made no exer-
tion to send it a reinforcement by either of these boats. -
There is nothing occurring at Lisbon of any moment. We are
entirely occupied with intelligence from Oporto, and speculations
as to the part likely to be taken by the English troops. The im-
pression about the former is that we will not for the present fire a
shot, and of the latter, that the city is nut of danger.
The exertions of the convents to provide money for ChaveS,
since his late successes, are said to be greater than at any former
time. After the defeat of the 9th, and the surrender of Almeida,
the Friars were crying out—What has become of our subscrip-
tions? Now they are, to the very poorest, contributing their
wealth and their mite. The satisfaction with which the rumour
of the fall of Oporto was received by them, could not be concealed
even here. I understand they are less scrupulous in the interior,
in displaying their joy at the turn of events, and that at Oporto
they almost openly made preparations to celebrate the expected
entrance of the rebels.

TUESDAY NIGHT.
The following Bulletin has been just published at the Ministry
of War :

The Earl of LIVERPOOL moved last night in the Peers,
and Mr. Secretary PEEL in the Commons, an Address to
his MAJESTY, in reply to the Royal Message, recommend-
ing a further provision for the Duke and Duchess of
CLARENCE.

It appeared that the Duke has hitherto enjoyed a Par-
liamentary allowance of 26,5001., per annum and that his
Royal Highness, on the death of the Duke of YORK, became
entitled to a further annual sum of 3,oool.,'being part of a
sum originally appropriated to the Royal Princes, with
benefit of survivorship. The proposition made by the
Government was, that a further sum of 3,0001. per annum
should be settled on the Duke, making his total allowances
32,5001.; and, that a separate grant of 6,0004 per annum
should be made to the Duchess.

No reasonable man will assert that these allowances are
more Than the situation in which the Duke and Duchess of
CLARENCE tiow stand with reference to the Throne re-
quires. There is no economy worse placed than that
which would oblige the Heir Presumptive_ of the Throne
to live in comparative retirement. He ought to be able
to support his exalted station with independence, and
with suitable dignity and splendour.
Mr. HU3IE attempted to draw the attention of the House
from the simple question whether the proposed grant was
not in itself just and expedient to be made to the
Royal
s
personages, by describing the distress which exists amongst
certain classes of manufacturers; and concluded a speech,
distinguished, as his speeches usually are, more for its
length than its argument, by moving the postponement of
the question. After rather a lengthened discussion this
amendment was negatived by a majority of 167 against 6.5.
On the.question for the House to go into a Committee.
[upon the Ordnance Estimates, Mr. MABERLEY proposed,
that before any further grants were voted, an Estimate
should be laid upon the Table of the Income and Expendi-
ture of the present year. The Hon. Member grounded
his motion on the fact of the Income and Expenditure of
the last year having differed very materially in theirresult
from the estimate which had been made by the CHANCEL-
LOR of the EXCHEQUER; and, in confirmation of his asser-
tion, referred to the account which had been published,
and by which it appeared that there was only a surplus of
about 1,000,000/. of Income oser the Expen@liture,
not including in the latter the Sinking Fund of 5,600,000/.,

" General Stubbs writes from Oporto, dated the 3d, that by a
rapid movement, concerted between the Marquis d'Anjega, Conde
de Villa Flor, and General de Mello, the rebels had been compelled
to retire from Santa Tierca, where they had passed the night
of the 2d."

The General further adds—" In case I should have been at-
tacked, I had to depend on the troops which I have here, and
which are animated with the beit spirit, so that I had no fears
about repelling the enemy."
The Count of Villa Flor, on the 2d instant, addressed to Ge•
neral Stubbs, from his head-quarters at Leisca, the following
despatch :

Having, received the despatch of your Excellency, dated yes-
terday, informing me of the tranquillity and security of the city, as
well as of the assembling there a force sufficient to act offensively
against the rebels, I have to inform you, that I this day effected a
junction with General Anjega and Count de Mello, and that we
have resolved to march against the rebels, our troops having this
day occupied Pombeiro and Guiramaens. To-morrow we shall
march by the village of Lamhozo and Carvalho d'Este, on Braga,
for the purpose of cutting off the roads of Salto and Ruideans, and
the road by the bridge of Porto to the centre of the province.
" Your Excellency having received this information, will
please to regulate your movements, in the certainty that if we
succeed in surrounding them, we shall drive them towards the
city, in which case all the opposition which your Excellency can
make against them on the river Ave, will be of great advantage.
Should they, however, make any other movement, we shall pursue
them, and as the communication continues open, I shall inform
your Excellency of what occurs. I beg your Excellency will be
pleased, as soon as possible, to communicate these arrangements to
the Minister" of War, and to state that Amarante is sufficiently
garrisOned to defend itself from any attack whatever, either from
the left or the right side of the Tamega."
We have no packet arrived since the D. of York steam-boat.
Exchange on London 52.
andtiheeatat letters
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the e of
degree,ct.eiht ybes4li siitbsis' subsided. Anjega is at Braga,
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andNtait,iroeneawl Peeakpseis-iln2bpieltr
Ic2en.t. discount. Yesterday it was 163.4
event not known, as the courier was said to have come away before
aremh ao;:eeet
retreating-_I
receivedam
it was decided.
We have a wild report of a battle being fought near Oportoou,:tt_haet
The public
eteonnT,scothle,etrnofioosacltinkioooNnviasi.htnragnedppi,gorihrinstt'ea,:tegr
and the rebels are said to have fallen back on Vianna (a place on
the coast, within a few leagues of Galicia) which rose up to re-
ceive them. I am, however, of opinion, that they will yet come
down and throw this town into alarm, but I am sure they cannot
enter if the troops remain firm.

Villa Nuova is crowded with people in every house—we are
astonished the steam-boat has not arrived with troops. We fear
the Government in Lisbon have some understanding with the
rebels as they do not relieve us with troops. We are also,at a
loss to know why the English have not come to our assistance.
There must be some mystery in all this, and we are satisfied that
it cannot end without a war with Spain. I have been out to
see the trenches, they are very strong. General Stubbs affords us
all the greatest satisfaction by his spirit and decision."
I understand that a Brazilian brig of war from Rio is arrived,
in 62 days. We have not time before the sailing of the packet, at
eleven, to ascertain what she brings.
The papers this morning contain no account of a battle near
Oporto, and I think, from the above letter, we may conclude no
such event has taken place.
I have seen another letter from Oporto of the 4th, which says

that the rebels are retiring beyond Braga. it kettle gm slot
the only security the city can have for its future safety will be a
garrison of British troops, as the inhabitants are certain tbe rebels
will make another attempt.

There are no official accounts made public up to thissailist of
:he packet at twelve o'clock.
(From the Gazeta de Lisboa, Feb. 7.)
WAR DEPARTMENT, Fin. 6.

The division of English troops under the command of Lieut.-
General Clinton, whom his Britannic Majesty, the ancient and
faithful ally of Portugal, sent to the assistance of this kingdom,
havinc, marched from this Capital into the interior, her Highness
the Infanta Princess Regent orders that it be published to the army
and nation, that the conduct of this division during its stay at this
Court deserves the highest consideration on account of its disci-
pline and regularity. Her Highness is well assured that the said
Lieut.• General will cause similar order and propriety to be ob-
served in any part where they may arrive, and that the gallant
troops whom he commands, will renew the same ties of frater-
nity which, during the Peninsular war, united the Portuguese and
English Army into one.
(Signed)
(A true Copy.)

CANDIDO JOSE XAVIER,
The Chief of the First Department,
RODRIGO PINTO PISARRE-

WAR-OFFICE, FEB. 6.

Extract of Official Reports, received in this Department:.—
" Lieutenant-General Stubbs, writes from Oporto on the Sd
inst., that the rapid movements which had been preconcerted be-
twixt the Generals the Marquis d'Angeja, Count de Villa Flor,
and Correa de Aiello, had compelled the rebels to retreat from
Sante Tirco, where they spent the night of the 2d. This Ge-
neral adds, in case I should be attacked here, I have so disposed
the troops I have here, and who are in high spirits, that there is
no fear of repressing the enemy.
" Count de Villa for, wrote:to General Stubbs the following
despatch, from his head quarters at Lixa, on the 2d instant. I
have received yeur Excellency's despatch under yesterday's date,
in which you announce to me the state of tranquillity and security-
of your city, I have now united here a force, which is sufficient
for undertaking offensive operations against the rebels ; and I
must now add to your Excellency, • that I have this day formed a
junction with Generals the Marquis of Angeja and Correa de Mello
and that we are now determined to march against the rebels, as to-
day our forces occupy Pombeiro and Guimaraes. To-morrow we
march by Lanhozo and Carvalho d'Este, upon Braga, for the purpose
of cutting off the roads of Salto and Ruivaes, and that, which
by the bridge of Oporto leads into the centre of the province.
By this intelligence your Excellency may regulate your movements,
and be sure that if we shall succeed in surrounding them, we shall
march against them through that city, in which case any opposi-
tion which your Excellency can make on the river Ava will be of
the greatest utility ; but should they make any other movements,
we shall follow them, and, if the communication remains open, I
will in a few hours communicate to your Excellency whatever
happens. I request your Excellency as before to acquaint the
Secretary at War with these dispositions, and that Amarante is
sufficiently garrisoned to defend itself against any attack on the
right, as well as on the left of the Tamega.
(Signed) " PINTO,
" The Chief of the First Department."