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London, England, 1829-03-14 00:00:00

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here remind my Noble Friend (Lord Eldon),- "11
now complains that the Bill of 1825 was ineffectual, an
maintains that the Commoa Law was sufficie!
for the suppression of the Association, to COnsv•
it
der when the Bill of 1825 was under consideration--'
that year, that the first paragraph of a very able desptal`
from the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland was, that there 0.
nothing in the form, institution, or proceedings of the Ali
dation which the Common Law could interfere with; an
my Noble Friend (Lord Eldon) was a party to the Bill for
putting down the Association in that year. If the CAW
mon Law was then sufficient, in the opinion of my
No
Friend, to put down the Association, wherefore Was he,,.!
party to the concoction of an additional measure to enfoolt
the suppression of it ?—(Loud cries of hear, hear.)---
was because the Common Law, even with the assistance°
the Act of 1825, was insufficient to suppress the Assncit;
tion, that recourse was obliged to be had this Session "
Parliament for the purpose of investing the Lord Lien!' •
nant of Ireland with extraordinary powers to put down t!al
Association.—(Hear, hear.)—The Noble Lord has 00
that there was sufficient power in the country to cob°
the Officers ofthe Crown to put down the Association"
'Tis true there was ample military power in the coenlll
to put it down. No doubt there was—but surely militad
power is not the description of force which one would des
to see put in operation for the suppression of such an Al:
ciation.—(Loud cheers.)—But that power and authorl!
which belongs to the law, and which may be carried to
execution by ordinary means.—(Loud cheers.)-rods ?
to withdraw their resolutions, and suggested as
Noble Duke concluded by recommending his Noble Frie
the bel
substitute that could be introduced for them, a Bill to
demnify all • • • tiob°6
persons who suffer under any disquala
wa
from having omitted to take the oaths prescribed by

Acts of 1791 and 1793.
The Earl of ELDON said, that as the Noble Duke he
referred to what had taken place during the period that Pei
was in his Majesty's Councils, he would recall the Or,
mory of the Noble Duke to what was his opinion at tia
period to which the Noble Duke referred. What he a°
was, that the Act of 1825 would be auxiliary to the etr
forcement of the Common Law ; but that without ll*
Common Law, that Act of itself would be ineffective,"
He would further recall the attention of the Noble De
to what he had said respecting the Common LW* P°
had maintained that the Common Law was sufficient t°
reach the conduct of Individuals; and, by reaching the
conduct of individuals, the proceedings of the Associatioa
would have been impeded, and thereby the Associatl°°
itself effectually suppressed. He thought that opportuat:
ties for proceeding agait.st individuals for their condoc!
had been permitted to escape ; and so strongly was he ha'
pressed with this opinion, that when the propriety 01:11,
prosecution was intended, in consequence of an atta
upon a late lamented Royal Personage, he (Lord Eidaai
was adverse to such a prosecution, from an unwillingni
after the many other opportunities for prosecutions tits
had been neglected, to risk the possible failure of a prole;
cution in that particular case, and thereby disturb 6
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last moments of that Royal Personage..--(We believe 11,,
Noble Lord adverted to a speech of Mr. Sheil, animadve
ing upon his late Royal Highness the Duke of York)'
The Noble Earl concluded by stating that he felt hio
called upon, in justification of his own honour and Or
sistency, to mention this circumstance.
The Noble Earl and Lord Plunkett then withdrew the
original Resolution and the Amendment, after which
House adjourned at a Quarter to Nine o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(LAST NIGHT.)
Lord BRECKNOCK took the oaths and his seat 0
Member for Bath.
Mr. Alderman WOOD brought in a Bill for alteringt
ar.d improving Smithfield-market, which was read a fill

time.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL brought in a Bin f°l'
adjusting the claim of the parish of St. Andrew, Holborot
to poors-rates in Lincoln's-inn.--Read a first time.
On the motion of Mr. PLANTA, a New Writ was or'
tiered to be made out for the borough of Newport, in the
room of the lion. C. B. Percy, who had accepted the office
of Comptroller of the Household.
Colonel POWELL presented a petition from a parish 0
Cardigan against the Catholics.
Lord CASTLERE A G presented a petition from Os'
borough in favour of concession.
Sir E. ELLIS presented four petitions from f°llr
parishes in Suffolk against the Catholics.
Captain CUST presented similar petitions front parishe
in the county of Stafford.
Mr. SEYMOUR presented a petition from Taunter,
Somersetshire, in favour of concession. He heartily cc°'
curred in the prayer of this petition.
Mr. LEYCESTER presented a petition from Poole
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favour of the Catholics.
Mr. DOHERTY presented two similar petitions font
It eland.
Mr. W. SMITH presented several petitions front the
Unitarians and Dissenters of the New-road Chapel, Brlgiv
ton, tool several other Dissenting Congregations, in &O IC
of the Catholics.
Admiral Sir E. HARVEY presented 13 petitions fool
different parishes against the Catholics.
Mr. A RKWRIGHT presented a petition against further
concessions, from the town of Ilyde, in Sussex.
of
Mr. BROWNLOW presented ten petitions in suPP- f
of the Catholic Claims, front parishes in the coup
tio °
Armagh, Down, Antrim, Cork, Cavan, and Tif,Psll;
The Honourable Member presented another
petition
the same effect, from the Protestant inhabitants of the ust;
ory,
of Bath. This petition, he observed, had been entr
to his care for the purpose of rebutting the assertion toast
in this House on a previous night, that the Protesta
population of the county of Somerset was, he might eats'
to a man, opposed to Catholic Emancipation. It tv,A4
signed by nine Clergymen of the Established Choral
by four of the Corporation, by a great number of NaV,g
and Military Officers, by the great majority of the Me-
thodist dualist Ministers, and by upwards of 200 respectable

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how‘eholders.
Sir T. LETHBRIDGE was glad that the petition 134 i
been confided to his Hon. Friend, for he was sure it
not have been placed in better hands. He (Sir T. L"u1(
eth-
bridge had stated on a former evening, that a great change
bad taken place in the opinions of many persons 41 Sc'
mersetsldie on this question, and the petition before the
House was a proof of it : and he might apreal, as an ad'
ditinnal proof, to the petition which had that evening been

presented from Taunton.
Mr. LATOUCH 1..... presented three petitions io
front pa'
rishes in the county of Kildare in favour of the Catkol
claims, and another against the Subletting Act.
Mr. DENISON presented a petition from the Unitarian
Dissenters of Gofkilining, in favour of the Catholic claimg.

DUBLIN PETITION.
Mr. MOORE had several petitions against emanciPsi
n) °‘
ton. The first was from the Lord Mayor, Alderme,
Corporation of the city of Dublin. He could not 100°0
this petition without mentioning that this Corporati?,
had been long distinguished for its loyalty, and that
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suggestions were on that account worthy of peculiar O
sideration. The petitioners state their alarm at the Inca;
cures introduced by Ministers, to destroy the Protestant
institutions in Church and State, and to shake the foursiv
tiuns on which the title of the House of Brunswick res",
to the Throne of these realms. They likewise state, the
they are not actuated by, and that they do not participate
in, the feelings of fear and intimidation to which they ail;
cribe the origin and progress of these measure,
feeh
of
that there is in the natural energy of the Protestants
Ireland sufficient power, strength, energy, and influence!
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not only to check, but to controul and repress by the
T
m(Tal efficacy all the efforts of the disaffected. hel,
represent, that when Ministers professed that it
evils
necessary to reform the Constitution, to meet tke
now existing in Ireland, they did not try any De°
periment to see whether it would be efficacious in cbec,:".;
ing those evil., They state their conviction that
other remedies might have been applied to the dise
ease of the State, and that the remedies now proposed
he applied will only create a further aggravation of it
They repeat their opinion that those remedies will lead t°
the destruction of the Protestant Constitution ; they es
press their alarm at seeing the measure proposed and for
ported by Government ; and they pray that it may the
pass into a law. The other petition came from
Warden and Corporation of the Guild; of Mercian"
in Dublin. It: prays not: only 3 that no further,
cessions shall be miole to the Roman Catholics, but also
that the Elective Franchise shall be so regulated as not t.c,
throw political influence into the hands of their priests;
likewise prays that the House will put down the establish'
ments of the Jesuits, and every other religious and on
s-
tic establishment in the British Empire. The Hon. Meliv
her presented petitions from al the different Guilds in tti.
Corporation of Dublin, enumerating, with great pia
larity in each instance, that they came from the Master'
Warden, and Brethren of each Guild. Among other
Guilds which petitioned were those of the following tradesi
carpenters, sitddlers, shoemakers, bricklayers, plasterer's
joiners, barbers, surgeons, and stationers.
Mr. DOHERTY would take that opportunity of Insk, n'
ing a few observations on the degree of weight which oug
to lie attached to the petitions which had just keen Pre'
sented in such numbers by his Hon. and Learned Friet't
the Member for Dublin. He would also announce being
House other petitions, which were in the course of
presented to it, with a contrary prayer on the same clu