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THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAYI EVENING, APRIL 1, 1845.

Sir G. CLERIC said that all documents sent in to the
Board of Trade, conveying information that the Board
had not had when making the announcements in the
Gazette, would be embodied in a report, and the whole
then laid before the House for its consideration.
Mr. HAWES wished to know if he understood
the Hon. Baronet to say that those announcement might
appear in the Gazette, subject to such alterations and
modifications as subsequent information might induce
the House to make, when the report mentioned by the
Hon. Baronet should be laid before Parliament.
Sir G. CLERIC—The Board of Trade might be
taken by surprise by the receipt of such information as
had been alluded to, and therefore those documents
would receive the attention they deserved.
NEW ZEALAND.
Mr. AGLIONBY begged leave, on bi half of Mr.
Charles Buller, who was absent, to give notice of a mo-
tion relative to New Zealand.
LEAVE OF ABSENCE.
Mr. STAFFORD O'BRIEN moved for leave of ab-
sence for Mr. William Miles and Mr. Phillip Miles for
six weeks. —G ran ted.
In answer to a question from Mr. AGLIONBY,
Mr. G. W. HOPE said that the papers the Govern-
ment had received from New Zealand would Le laid on
the table on an early day.
In answer to a question from Mr. TUFNELL,
Mr. G. W. HOPE said that the Government were
willing to do anything that would meet with the appro-
bation of Hon. Members.
Mr. TUFNELL thought the information of the
hon. Gentleman was hardly precise enough. What he
wanted to know was, whether the parties to whom he re-
ferred would be subject to any compulsory proceedings?
Mr. G. W. HOPE said that to what extent the direc-
tions of Lord Stanley would go he could not say, and
whether cr not Lord Stanley would wish the Governor
to carry out his instructions within any specific period
he could not say, and what his decision would be with
respect to those who might not be able readily to get rid
of their property within such period, if it:were fixed, he
was equally ignorant.
BOARD OF TRADE.
Mr. HAWES said that seeing the Noble Lord, the
Chancellor for the Duchy of Lancaster (Lord Granville
Somerset) in his place, he wished to ask him when the
House might expect another report from the Board with
which he was connected ? He was led to hope that this
report would be shortly forthcoming, from the long
time which had elapsed since the date of the last report.
Lord GRANVILLE SOMERSET said that he could
not at the present moment say when the next report
would be ready, for from the amount of business which
the Board had to transact there had not at present been
an opportunity of preparing it.
Mr. HAWES said he thought that it was time an-
other report was prepared, and that the question was a
sufficiently reasonable one when he recollected that the
date of the last was December, and there was, in his
opinion, sufficient ground to expect another by this
time.

gularities must necessarily take place. He trusted that
this would not be treated as a party question. It was a
question of great national importance, and he trusted
that both sides of the House would co-operate
in endeavouring to improve the present system-
The system of double entry had again and again been
recommended by the commissioners of public ac-
counts. There ought, no doubt, to be some general
system of control exercised as to the way money
was to be drawn from the public chest. Some
system ought to be universally adopted. He did
not suggest that there should be any interference with
the expenditure or receipt in the colonies, but the ex-
penditure and receipt should be honestly and clearly
acknowledged by some general uniform system. In
this country there should be some means of ascertaining
with regard to the colonial expenditure—at present the pe-
cuniary state of the colonies was represented in a very un-
satisfactory state. The House cf Commons should re-
ceive from year to year a colonial budget, containing the
estimate of the receipts and expenditure in the colonies.
The Hon. Gentleman then read the resolutions he
wished the House to adopt:—
" 1. That in the opinion of this House, a uniform sys-
tem of accountancy should be adopted in all the depart-
ments of Government, the plan of double entry, as re-
commended by the Commissioners of Public Accouuts,
being the basis thereof.
" 2. 'I hat, for the protection of the public revenue, and
the exercise of an efficient Parliamentary control, the
gross revenues should be paid without deduction into her
Majesty's Exchequer, and all issues therefrom be autho-
rised by a Parliamentary vote.
" 3. That no department of expenditure be allowed
to be a department of receipt other than by credits on
her Majesty's Exchequer.
Mr. HUME seconded the motion.

On the question, being put,
Mr. HOPE said that, if he understood the ion. and
Learned Member aright, his proposal simply was to ap •
point .such Members (as were in the House) upon
this Committee, in order to make a report from the
printed evidence already before the House. He
understood also that the estimates of the colonies
were to be laid before the House in detail, in order to
receive the sanction of the House.

Dr. BOWRING--Oh ! no no.
Mr. HOPE was at a loss to understand what the
Hon. Member meant by his motion. As regarded the
Crown colonies, her Majesty's Ministers did assume a
responsibility, and they had for years been endeavouring
to improve their ;ondition, and he trusted that in soma
measure they had done so. But it had been
in the habit to leave the coloni?s to transact
their own affairs—(Hear)—as, they themselves
were best acbnainted with them. They had the choosing
of their own officers—of their own constabulary,
and they were at liberty to adopt those laws
most convenient to themselves, without in
in every case requiring the sanction of that House. He
did not, however, wish to object to the appointment of
the Committee sought for by the Hon. and Learned
Gentleman.
Mr. HUME said the most lamentable ignorance pre-
vailed iu this country on the condition of the colonies.
He must not interfere with the local administration of
colonial affairs ; but what he coiplained of was a total
of management, regularity, and uniformity. It was im-
possible ter any Colonial Secretary in such a state of
thingsto administer Colonial affairs in a satisfactory man-
ner—thus Colonial accounts were in entire confusion.
With regard to the mode of lev3ing colonial taxes
he did not agree with it, because it dealt unfairly
with the products of this country. There was
no uniform system by which the import duties
were regulated in the colonies, and he very much re-
gretted this, for if there was tome uniform system
established, it would not only make the ac-
counts more clear, but tend materially to reduce
the public expenditure of the country. His opinion had
always been that the colonies ought not to be of any
expense to the country, but so far from this being the
case now, they were paying annually enormous sums for
their maintenance.
After a few words from Dr. BOWRING in explana-
tion the motion was agreed to.
POST-OFFICE ESPIONAGE.
Mr. SHIEL rose and was
(LEFT SPEAKING.)

MARKET INTELLIGENCE.
(From the London New Price Current of April 1.)
SUGAR.-To- day there was a good demand for bright ye
low, and the best Refining descriptions of West India Sugar,
which fetched full rates, but inferior and brown kinds were
purchased with caution, at prices rather under those of
Friday, the market was well supplied with such, and mer-
chants generally inclined to sell; but of good and fine yellow
and grey, the quantity on sale was limited.
REFINED.-To -day many parcels of Refined goods were
taken by the home trade, and standard lumps fetched 65s to
66s per cwt. Crushed Sugar manufactured under bond is
wanted at 31s per cwt.
MAURITIUS.-This afternoon importers of Mauritius Sugar
were generally not disposed to submit to any further decline
in prices, but the trade evinced little desire to operate, and of
5500 bags offered at public sale, not above two-thirds sold at
prices that averaged those of the last auction ' • very fine
bright yollow went at 54s 6d to 565, fine 50s to 51s, good 47s
to 48s, good middling 45s 6d to 465, middling 43s to 445, low
41s to 42s 6d, grey middling to good 42s 64 to 475, ordinary
41s to 425, fine brown 38s to 38s 6d, good 37s 6d, middling 35s
to 36s per cwt.
EAST INDIA.-This afternoon 834 bags of Manilla Sugar,
without certificate, were offered at public sale, and sold at a
decline of 6d to is per cwt, good brown rather foxey cloyed
went at 17s Gd, and washed 16s to 16s 6d per cwt. With
Bengal the market was again well supplied ; four parcels
amounting to 5,051 bags were submitted to public com-
petition, the better descriptions of white met with
a good demand, and commanded full rates, but
inferior brown and yellow kinds met with a dull sale, and
prices declined 6d to Is per cwt; fine white went at 52s to
545, good 50s to 51s, middling 49s to 49s 6d, low 45s 6d, ord
soft date 42s to 445, damp and washed 89s to 535, low sound
yellow 38s to 40s, middling 45s 6d good 47s to 48s, damp and
washed 36s 6d to 475, sound grey 42s to 43s 6d, damp and
washed 40s to 435. Of Madras 3,150 bags were offered and
only partly sold at easy rates, low damp brown went at 32s 6d
to 345, middling 35s to 365, and good 37s to 3ss 6d per cwt.
FOREIGN.-There has been an increased demand for all
descriptions of Brazil Sugar, and very full rates have been
paid for white, and rather higher for brown ; the private
operations are a floating cargo of fine new brown Bahia at
19s 6d, and one of Pernambuco in bags at 19s 6d, both for a
near Port, and 100 chests of old Bahia on the spot at 22s for
common white, and 18s per cwt for brown. This afternoon
80 chests of white Bahia sold privately at 228 per cwt for low
quality.
MOLASSES.-West India have met with. little attention,
and prices are still drooping, the private opera
er cwt. East
tions are 120
puns St. Kitt's at 175., and Trinidad 17s 6d p
India may be procured upon law terms, still very few buyers
are to be met with.
COFFEE.-This afternoon 2,198 bags of East India Coffee
Bankrupts effects were offered at public sale and sold at mo-
derate rates, viz., Ceylon black Triage at 105 to 13s Gd,
better quality was disposed of at from 14s 6d to 18s 6d, chaffy
9s, Padang good ordinary mixed with blacks 21s to 21s
ld
;
Manilla blacs 13s to 18s, and chaffy Ils 64 per cwt. Ceylon
was purchased with caution, by private treaty, and 46s to
4Gs Gd accepted for small parcels of good ordinary Pale. In
other kinds of Coffee there was very little busiOnesns done
2 pri-
vately, and none was offered at auction. Friday 00
bags of Ceylon Coffee, will be offered at public sale.
TEA.-To. day the trade purchased Tea with reluctance,
and the biddings were languid at the publicsales ; of the total
quantity offered, amounting to 10,536
pkgs, the small propor-
tion of only 1,500 were actually disposed of, including 900
pkgs of Pouchong ; but previous rates were generally sup-
ported, in some cases a small decline was submitted to.
Congou, fresh and new kinds went at 10%d, ra coa
to ra str is to is Id, blksh if Pekoe kind 2s 4d
to 2s 6d ; Souchong, good is 4d to ls 6d, fine 2s ;
Pouchong, low to good 4d to 7d ; Flowery Pekoe
fine and very fine 3s to 4s Gd ; Caper, in chests lop, in catty
boxes Is 3d to is 6d; Scented ()range Pekoe, good to fine
3s 3d to 3s 44; Twankay, common is ld to is 3d; Hyson
kind, common lld ; Hyson, fine to superfine 2s 9d to 3s 6d ;
,
Young Hyson, Canton and Twankay kind is 8d to 2s 2d ;
Hyson kind 3s ld to 3s ; Imperial
Canton, and Twan
kay kind 2s ld to 2s sd; Hyson kind 3s Id to 3s Gd; Gun-
powder, Canton, and Twankey kind 2s 2d to 2s 64 ; and Hy-
son kind 3s Bdd to 4s 4d per lb.
SPICES.-This afternoon Black Pepper met with little at-
tention, and the sound of 1772 bags of umatra at public sale
the
was taken in at 2d dame ed of whit
for good light black rather stalk and
dusty being the former value; the g
chief part consisted all sold, but at easier rates ; sea damaged
firs: class 2id to 2id, the second class 21d, third class
bad
see damaged and repaclied 24 to 2clhd, and very

id per lb.
Rum,BRANBY, AND HOLLANDs.—Although there are sel-
lers of Calcutta Rum at a further reduction in prices, still
few purchasers are to be met with, rand onllso puns have
been sold at is 8d per gallon, proof, with certificate; the
stock is still on the increase. In Brandy the operations
hhds 48 4d, puns 4s 2d ; ditto
are upon a more extended scale, and prices have 'made
ditto 1842, hhds 4s ld, puns
a stand; they rule as follow :---Cognac, best brands of the
vintage of 1838, hhds 4s Bd, puns 4s 6d ; ditto 1839, hhds
41s8451d,hhpunds
3s lld ; ditto 1843, hhds 35 lid, puns 3s 9d ditto 1844,
s4s4s4d3,d ;pudnitsto4slB4o2d
hhds 3s 9d, puns 3s 7d ; middling and good' middling of
the various vintages 2s 8d to 3s 7d, low 2s 6d to
2s Bd, and Bordeaux 2s 6d to 2s 7d per gallon ; the
value of common export Geneva is Is 9d, and fine, fit for duty
2s 4d to 2a 10d per gallon—previous rates are well supported
for English Corn Spirits. To-day there was a better demand
for all descriptions of Rum, but holders were unable to obtain
any advance in prices • proof Leewards selling at is 10d,
Calcutta proof Is 8d to 'lB 81Ad, Jamaica 3s 3d to 4s, and fine
4s 2d to 5s per gallon. Of East and West India several par-
cela have arrived during the last few days.
RlCE.—Bengal has fully sustained the former value •, low
white has been disposed of by private treaty at lls to Ils 3d,
middling 1 is 6d to 12s, good 12s 3d to 12s 6d, and fine 12s 9d
to 13s per cwt. Tne maiket is firm for Foreign East India.
Madras yellow is fetching 9s 6d to 108 per cwt •, white Java
at lls to 12s 6d, and yellow 9s 6d to 108 6d per cwt.
Cleaned Rice at 14s to 18s for Patna, and at 23s to 28s per
cwt for Carolina.
COCIIINEAL.—At previous rates a good business transacted,
and at auction 120 bags of Honduras silvers were all disposed
of at 4s 9d to 4s lld per lb for low to middling, by private
treaty some parcels of black and silvers have been sold.
SALTPETRE.—Rough has met with more attention, but
merchants have been unable to obtain any advance in prices,
and at auction 2,000 bags of Calcutta were all disposed of;
good white refraction 34 per cent at 26s 6d, good yellowish
grey 6i per cent 265, good strong dry grey 5i
to 5 per cent
26s to 26s 6d, not refracted 23s 6d to 255, damaged 22s to
24s 6d; 461 bags of Madras fetched 25s for sound, 10 per
cent refraction, being generally previous rates.
TALLow—This afternoon there was little business done in
Russia Tallow, and 388 3d to 38s 9d accepted for P. Y.
.Candle of fine quality on the spot.
OILS—Fur Linseed Oil the demand on the spot has been
brisk at 25s 3d to 25s 6d, and for forward delivery many con
tracts have been entered into at 25s 6d to 26s ; ship-
ping orders are coming in more freely, and the con-
sumption is on the increase. In Rape several transactions
have taken place at 37s 6d to 38s for pale, and at 36s 6d to
375 per cwt for brown. Palm has sustained the former
value. For Cocoa Nut Oil prices are sustained—Ceylon
realising 27s to 28s, and from Sydney 24s to 25s 6d per cwt.
In Sperm there ass been a good business transacted at $6l
to 88/ for fine British, and at 83/ to S 5/ par tun for Arne-
rimi of first quAfity,
Fish Qiis are little
wanted; Cod le hald for 211 j la§ to 80; per tun,
pale Seal selling at V/ to 31/, yellow 271 ips toVl leg, str4w
29/ to 29/ 105, and brown 26/ to 27/1 at public sale 92 tuns
of Southern were sold, fine at 29/ to 29/ Ms, Ord to good 261
10a to 281 lEs, 3 tuns of low Cod Oil 2415 s to 241105, 3 casks

Cods Foots 201 lOs ; 3 casks Dog Oil 24155, and 1 cask of
Pot Head 231 lOs per tun. Olive Oil is held with firmness •
Galipoli at 411 lOs to 42/ ; Spanish and Barbary 401 to 41/,
and other descriptions 391 to 39l lOs per tun..

Towx HALL, WINDSOR —Yesterday morning two
boys, named Henry Eden and Francis Johnson, of the re-
spective ages of twelve and fourteen years, were charged
before Thomas Clarke, Esq. (Mayor), and William Legh,
Esq., with having broken open a tin box, containing moneys
belonging to the mother and brother of Eden, and stolen the
whole of its contents, amounting to U. 18s. It appeared
from the evidence that the two boys left Windsor as soon
as they had effected the robbery, and returned pennyless on
Saturday last, the day after the execution of John Tawell,
at Aylesbury. On being. apprehended the boy Eden ad-
mitted he had broken open the box, by forcing the staple of
the padlock, and taken the money, in order to enable him
to go to Aylesbury "to see the Quaker hung." Aylesbury
is upwards of thirty miles from Windsor.
A stir is likely to be immediately made for having
a line of railway from Kelso to somewhere in the neighbour-•
hood of St. Boswell's, which will connect the proposed line
between Kelso and Berwick with that between Edinburgh
and Hawick.—Newcastle Journal.

RAIL wA Y IN TELLIGENCE.
LONDON, SALISBURY, AND YEOVIL
JUNCTION.
ANDOVER, SATURDAY EVENING.—This morning a
very numerous meeting of the inhabitants of the town
and neighbourhood took place at the Town-hall, to con
Sider the subject of the formation of a line from Basing-
stoke to Andover, and from thence to Salisbury and
Yeovil.
Giles Westbury, Esq., the Mayor, took the chair, and
there w ere present the Hon. and Rev. S. Best, R. Etwall,
Esq., M.P., for Andover ; Colonel Iremonger, the Rev.
Walter Blunt, the Rev. Henry Fowle, Rev. W. Smythe,
Rev. C. H. Ridding, Rev. W. Powney, Rev. Christopher
Dodson, Thomas Phillips, Esq., J. H. Everett, Esq.,
Harry Footner. Esq., Town Clerk ; and many of the
landed proprietors, as well as many of the principal
inhabitants. A deputation from Basingstoke attended,
consisting of C. Simmons, Esq., the Mayor ; Messrs.
Cottle (Alderman), Blunden and Gibbs. Joseph Locke,
Esq., the engineer, and F.T. Bircham, Esq., were present
on behalf of the South-Western Company, and the
following gentlemen attended as a deputation from the
London, Salisbury, and Yeovil Company :--John Chap-
man, Esq., J. J. Kinloch, Esq., G. Webster, Esq., W. S.
Boyd, Esq., D. M. Johnston, Esq., F. Giles, Esq., and
Lewis Crombie, Esq.
The CHAIRMAN, in opening the proceedings, said he
had received a requisition, very numerously signed, re-
questing him to call this meeting, to consider the subject
of more efficient railway communication. The town of
Andover had long been without the advantages which
other towns of less importance possessed, and he should
be glad to find that the meeting that day would be pro-
ductive of beneficial results.—(Hear, hear )
The Hon. and Rev. S. BEST moved the first resolution, to
the effect that a line from some point at or near Basing-
stoke, on the South-Western Railway by Andover to Salis-
bury, would promote the convenience of the public, and
be highly beneficial to Andover, and a large district now
unprovided with railway communication, connecting
them on the one hand with the metropolis, and on the
other with Salisbury and the west of England. He could
look back to a time when railways were regarded as an
evil, but he was glad to find that they had now arrived at
a better state of feelins„ on that subject, and thrown to the
winds their foolish objections. He thought the proposed
route should provide for both the eastern and western
districts every accommodation, connecting the metropolis,
Salisbury, and the west of England generally.—(Hear.)
The main reason which had conduced to the prosperity
of the town of Andover was, that it was situate on the
direct line of communication between the metropolis and
the west of England. The wonder of the age, as they
used to call the " Telegraph" coach, passed through
Andover on the line from London to Exeter. Weyhill,
with its great and important fair, ought also to come in
for a share of consideration in the formation of a line in
that district. The people of Andover would never rest
satisfied with their present position, or with a line which
took them as much time to reach it as it did afterwards
to proceed onwards to London.—(Cheers.) The line now
propelled by the London, Salisbury, and Yeovil Com-
pany. was the best that could be adopted. The engi-
neering difficulties or facilities would probably be ex-
plained by Mr. Locke, a gentleman who had made a
direct communication between the metropolis of England
and that of France. If it was determined to make a
line connecting the west with the east—Andover must
be that line. By whatever company it was undertaken,
very little time must elapse before its construction should
be commenced. He trusted that ere long the people of
Andover would be in possession of those advantages
which railway communication offered, and which had
up to the present time been denied them.
Mr. MORTIMORE seconded' the resolution, which was
put, and carried unanimously.
Mr. ETWALL, M.P., suggested that this would be the
proper time for those gentlemen wbo attended on behalf
of the South-Western, and London, Salisbury, and Yeovil
lines, to state their opinions, so that before proceeding
farther the meeting might be put in possession of the
necessary facts.
Mr. LOCKE said he would very readily give any in-
formation that might be required of him. His object,
however, in visiting Andover that day, was to hear the
opinions of the inhabitants. He quite agreed with the
Hon. and Rev. Gentleman who proposed the first reso-
lution, and he might say that if the Board of Trade
sanctioned the South- Western scheme, the Company were
determined on making the line to Salisbury via Andover.
The Rev. Mr. Siurrne asked Mr. Locke how far west-
ward the South-Western Company would go ?
Mr. LOCKE replied that at present he had received no
instructions to proceed beyond Salisbury.
Mr. JOHN CHAPMAN said he regretted that important
business had detained at Lincoln the Honourable William
Ashley, the Chairman of the Committee of the London,
Salisbury, and Yeovil line, and he read a letter from the
Honourable Gentleman, expressive of his regret at being
prevented from attending at Andover on that day. That
gentleman, however, felt the greatest interest in the suc-
cess of the line, on no account more than for its in-
tended transit through the town of Andover. Never,
he (Mr. Chapman) thought, was there such an extraor-
dinary anomaly and oversight, that while other parts of
the country were adequately provided with railway ac-
commodation, this important district was left completely
isolated. When the Great Western Company was
formed, the avowed object was a direct communication
between London and Bristol, at which point it was sup-
posed the line would terminate. The line had now been
extended to Exeter, and he had no doubt it would
answer the purposes of that Company. Still it did not sa-
tisfy the inhabitants of Andover, Yeovil, Salisbury, or
even the inhabitants of Exeter themselves. It appeared
to him that the South-Westero pointed to the natural
line of railway into the western districts of the country;
but as the great lines had shown no disposition to meet
the wants of the people of many important districts, it
became the duty of the inhabitants of neglected towns
to make a movement in their own behalf. Railways
cemented, as it were, a social compact throughout the
kingdom, and bound men together as one family ;
Wiltshire, Dorsetshire, and part of Devon, however,
were still beyond that family circle. The company he
represented (the London, Salisbury, and Yeovil Junc-
tion) were determined to make a line not only to An-
dover and to Salisbury, but to Yeovil also.—(Cheers.)
An independent companY had been formed for making a
line' from Yeovil to Exeter, so that the Communication
would be direct and complete. The company he repre-
sented were quite prepared to go on. Every encourage-
ment had been held out to them.—(Cheers.)
Mr. GILES, civil engineer, put in a plan of the line of
the London, Salisbury, and Yeovil Junction. It appeared
that the line will establish a direct communication be-
tween London, Salisbury, Yeovil, and the West of Eng.
land, traversing in its course many wealthy, populous,
and important districts. Commencing at Wortmg, near
Basingstoke, it will proceed by Whitchurch, Andover,
and Salisbury, to Yeovil, by which means the connexion
between the east and west coasts will be complete. In
connexion with the projected line from Exeter to Yeovil,
it will, Mr. Giles remarked, form the shortest and most
direct communication between London and Exeter,
whereby a saving in distance of thirty miles will be
effected. The distance from London to Salisbury will be
about 80 miles, to Yeovil 120 miles, and to Exeter 165
miles. The length of line to be constructed will be about
75 miles.
Mr. ETWALL, M.P., moved " That the landowners and
other influential persons interested be invited to give
their support to the Company projecting the best
line through the above-named district, and to aid
in carrying it out." He thought that the meeting
should be unequivocally told whether either or
both of the projected lines would come very near
the town of Andover.—(Cheers.) It would be the duty
of the inhabitants to watch closely the movements of
both companies, and to take care that whichever line
should be constructed should come into or near their
town.—(Hear, hear.) His Honourable and Reverend
Friend had very properly adverted to the objections
which many landowners bad formerly entertained on the
subject of railways, but which were now entirely
removed. He (Mr. Etwall) had never entertained such
views, convinced as he was from the commencement that
railways would tend greatly to the promotion of the
prosperity of the country.
Mr. GILES, C.E., said the line he intended to adopt
(the London, Salisbury, and Yeovil Junction) would pass
close to the north side of Andover, and would be of the
greatest advantage to the town.
Mr. LOCKE, on the part of the South-Western Com-
pany, remarked that it was not from indisposition to
give information on the matter, but simply that he
was not in possession of the requisite details. He
might, however, say that, whatever line the South-
Western Company might adopt, it would come as near the
town of Andover as possible. From this course no slight
expense would deter them. He was somewhat disin-
clined to enter into these matters, because be had fre-
quently found that much mischief had arisen from the
premature discussion of details.
Mr. PHILLIPS having seconded the resolution, it was
put and carried.
Mr. MARSH admitted that for a long time he enter-
tained antiquated prejudices on the subject of railways.
He had now abandoned them, and was desirous of seeing
a line constructed such as that proposed. He would
like to see it extend not only to Andover, but to Salis-
bury, Yeovil, Exeter, and to the Land's-end. The
Company who would carry them the farthest should
have his support.—(Hear.)
Mr. CROMBIE, as one of the promoters of the Lon-
don, Salisbury, and Yeovil Junction, might be per-
mitted to say a few words in reference to the ques-
tions which had been asised. He had no idea till he
entered the train at London that morning that any
official persons cow?
d with
the South-Western Com-
eeteally were to he present, although he was glad to see
them there i doll* mizht otherwise have existed
whiol would now be cleared up. With reference to
the position of Andover, on the London, Salisbury, and
Yeovil line, he might remark that the instructioas
given to the engineers were, that they- should csme as
near to the town of Andoype as possible.--(Cheers.)
Ue Was liatilla to ititono %he meetin; of the illteutiou of

Exeter.

Mr. WEBSTER confirmed Mr. Crombie's statements
relative to the communications which had been made with
the South-Western Company.
Mr. CHAPMAN, while he disclaimed all vexatious op-
position to.au established company, expressed the deter-
mination of the company with which he was connected to
carry out the scheme which they had proposed. He was
quite certain that the line was wanted, and he pledged
himself, on the part of the company, that he would not
be daunted either by the South-Western, or that Le-
viathan, he might say, " crooked leviathan," the Great
Western.

Mr. LOCKE, in answer to a question, stated that the
South-Western Company had no intention of going to

Mr. MORTIMER denounced the proceedings of the
South Western Company, and contended that if they
had succeeded in getting their Hookpit deviation line,
which was reported against by the Board of Trade, a
line to Andover would never have been heard of.—
(Loud cheers.) The town, he thought, had been very
Unfairly dealt with by the South-Western Company.
Mr. Foommt, the town-clerk, thought the London,
Salisbury, and Yeovil Company were entitled to the
thanks of the inhabitants. Without pledginr, the meet-
ing to either party, ho would move a vote of thanks to
the deputations which had attended on the part of both
companies. ,
Mr. TuomPsoN, ex-mayor, seconded the motion,
which was carried nem. dis.
Mr. LOCKE and Mr. CHAPMAN severally returned
thanks.
The MAYOR acknowledged a similar compliment paid
to himselt; and the proceedings terminated.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF COMMONS, March 31.
COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY—NAVY ESTINIATES.
Sir CHARLES NAPIER (in continuation) said—

He thought, before the House voted more money for
the construction of steam-boats, they ought to have
an assurance that some person would be ap-
pointed to inquire into the subject. It was useless for
Members to suppose that they did their duty in voting
for the motion that had been proposed. It was the same
thing with regard to those Ilon. Gentlemen near him,
who had a fellow feeling with the official gentlemen on
the other side of the House, because they had some
expectation of being in the same position themselves.
They were, therefore, always found in the same lobby
when it came to a vote. Now there was the Retribution,
a steam-vessel, of 1640 tons. She was larger than a
frigate, but did not carry a gun on her main deck, and it
was morally impossible to fire her stern guns. There
was a still larger steam-vessel, of 1830 tons, which was
so built that it was impossible to get her guns out. She
had no stern posts, though he had heard that two had
been cut in her. He should like to see them, however.
The Samson was in the same category exactly, and he
thought that the machinery in the Samson was worse
placed than in any of the others. It was higher up, and
he would defy a shot to be fired into her engine-house
without carrying away her machinery, it was so exposed.
With regard to the Firebrand, Captain Corrie, who
went with the experimental expedition, and than whom
there was not a better officer, nor one who would give
a fairer report, said of her that she was perfectly useless.
He would say nothing of the Vulture, because he had
not been on board of her, and he would not state any-
thing that he did not know. The Cyclops was intended
for a frigate, but it was found that she would not carry
guns on her main-deck at all ; and the Gorgon frigate
had to be cut down to a corvette, and the sooner the
same was done with the Cyclops the better. He now
came to the steam sloops. They consisted of 24, and
they cost 462,1041. without the machinery, and the
machinery cost perhaps as much more, but they were
only fit to be • used as packet vessels. Their engine
houses were so high that it was impossible for a shot to be
fired into them without destroying their machinery.
lie had had a great deal of conversation with the best
engineers of the country, and they had told him that if a
proper sum of money were paid, there would he no diffi-
culty in reducing this machinery to a level with the
main deck, to bring it at least as low as thecylinder, thus
exposing nothing but the piston-rod and the connecting-
rod, and he even believed that it would be possible to get

the eccentric rod into a hollow tube so as' o preserve
from the shot of the enemy. Now the steam-pipes also
in all these steam-vessels were carried along the
deck about the water-mark ; so were the steam
boxes, and it was altogether a farce to call thew.,
steam-vessels vessels of war. If they took one of them
and fired a shot along her decks without damaging her
engines he would never open his mouth again.—
(Laughter.) Now he held in his hand a list of the
steam-packets which had been lately built, some eight in
all, which had cost, each of them, about 58,7521., exclu-
sive of the machinery. He had the bills at that mo-
ment—(Laughter)—but he would come to the ships
that had been built, and here he would speak from per-
sonal knowledge. He had been on board of the Centaur,
the day before yesterday, and he found that she was in
the same category with the others; but it was not yet
tou late to alter her, and to give her stern guns on the
maiu-deck. He believed they were all pretty near the
build of each other.—(Hear, hear.) The Govern-
ment had at last, however, appointed Mr. Pit-
cher to build a steam-boat, and he (Sir Charles
Napier) would call it the first steam-boat they had cp.
plicable to the purposes of war, as upon it they could
point four guns aft and two for'ard. They could also have
two swivel guns pointed from the fore deck. On the
authority of such men as Mr. Pilcher, he was willing to
undertake a great deal of responsibility. He would not
hesitate to deepen a vessel for the purpose of enabling
her to carry two hundred tons of coal additional. He
approved of the building of iron steamers, as in the
case of the Vulture ; for he was one of the first to build
an ironsteamer, and he was the first to cross the Channel
in one. But as they were at present constructed he
thought that they were dangerous. It was to be re-
membered, that if a shot passed through iron plates, the
iron would not be so easily plugged as wood ; and he,
therefore, should recommend that there should be a
considerable quantity of timber along the iron, the whole
length between wind and water. He would recommend
the Gallant Officer to make the experiment of passing a
shot through a steamer to try the result. It had been
his intention to move for a Committee ; but after the
statement which had been made in that House, he really
thought it would not hurt the dignity of the admirable
row of those gentlemen who were out of office,
if they were to order a commission to inquire whether
the existing system was the best.
Sir G. COCKBURN, who sp tone o
oke in so low a of
voice as to be scarcely audible in the gallery, said,
givenhe Donee
thought his eHf otnh.
the
and
various GalGal a nstuFh
subjects
Friend
whichough h
t toe have
had
brought under the consideration of the House. With
regard to the steam navy, he would state, that it was
established at a time when the system of steam
naviga-
tion was not so well understood as it wasat present.
When the present Government came into ,office, the
principle upon which steam frigates were built was that
of having the
that
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the
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I e believed am r
the best and most serviceable
in the service, and he could
not but think that the employment of such steamers
be beneficial to all parties. In those steam-vessels,
must
be
whole of the machinery being under water, it was as
safe as magazine stores. He could assure the House that
the Admiralty had not failed in giving encouragement to
projectors in the art of ship-building, and everybody
who suggested an improvement in the construction of
ships to the Board of Admiralty, had a fair trial.
Ile felt very much obliged to the Gallant Officer oppo-
site (Sir C. Napier) for the suggestions—the valuable
suggestions—he had made ; and the Admiralty would
be always most anxious to take advantage of titew.—
(Hear, hear-) He thought it right te, state, howeve-
that Mr. Finchen deelipßd to carry out the re,—
tions of
ciellallt Officer. In
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mated them "

_vmthenda-
__.pect to our steam
—.41. of our neighbours, be esti-
- ... tam to two—our steam navy had 30,000