The Sun.
London, England, 1827-12-04 00:00:00

NEW CATHOLIC ASSOCIATION.

Flom a Second Edition of the 'DO/in _Evening Post of
Saturdiy.)
O'BRIEN, DILLON; Esq., in the Chair.
.This day the Association rooms were crowded to

excess.
Mr. O'CONNELL, after reading .one of the nu 7
memos letters presented, took occasion to introduce
a notice of the meeting held the day before pester-
clay, to consider the plan of a Ship Canal from Dub,.
lin to Galway. After passing an eloquent eulogium '
on Lord Cloncurry, for his uniform' and steady pai•
triotisai, he said that the meeting then held was
one of great importance; it was numerous and
highly respectable ; and, it was of great consequence
that the unanimous sentiments of such a .meeting
were delivered on a subject which should, in a para 7
mount manner, engage the attention .of the Empire,
namely, the prevailing misery of .the peasant pdpt-
lation 'in Ireland, and the dreadful consequences re-
sulting from the new but widely adopted system of
depopulation carrying on through the country. He
'deprecated, in forcible terms, the Malthusian doc-
trines, and recurred to the moral excellencies of
those unhappy and persecuted small tenants, of
whom modern political economists would deprive
Ireland by the absurd plan of Emigration. He men-
tioned a case which occurred this day in the Court
of King's Bench, where a sub-tenant, under a middle,.
man in the city of Dublin, refused to pay a large ar-
rear of rent, sheltering himselOunder the provisions
of what he (Mr..01C.) denominated the robbing
Sub-tenantry Bill.
M‘DERMOTT related a similar case which oc-
curred a few days ago in Galway, and took an elo-
quent awl argumentative review of the various quack
remedies' lately prescribed for the distresses of the

Country.
Mr. SHEIL rose to move on his notice, concerning
tharespectful address to the Dignitaries of the.Estai.
lished Church, to request them to reduce their in.;
come to Apostolic proportion, and give one-third
of that income to the poor, and another to the re-
pairing of churches. He read a letter purporting
to come from a friend of his in the country, which
in the most brilliant and caustic strain of imagina-
tive composition, contrasted the splendour of the
present Established Church Dignitaries with the
Apostolic age of meekness, poverty, and simplicity;
After It voluminous mass of letters were read, the
Catholic Rent, for the last week, was announced to
amount to one hundred and sixty-two pounds

sterling,

DUBLIN.

From The Dublin Evening Post of Saturday.)
COURT OF CHANCERY.

Tip,. LORD CHANCELLOR-THE MASTER OF

THE ROLLS. •
The LORD CIIANCELUOR entered the Court about
half-past eleven o'clock, and after taking his seat,
Mr. SAURIN rose and said, he had two petitions
to present to his Lordship on the subject of the ap-
pointment of Secretary to his Honour the Master of,
the Rolls. One was from Mr.' Frederick Shaw,
_ _

who had been appointed by the MttSter as his
Secretary, praying that he might be permitted to act
as Secretary to the Master of the Rolls, and be.
allowed such emoluments as appertained to that
office. Mr. Saudn.said that the Rolls Court wits a
separate and independent Court, although belonging
in some measure to the High Court of Chancery;
that, as such, it had clearly a right to the appoint-
ment of its own officers. Numerous instances in
the reigns of Henry VIII. and Elizabeth, and from
the 4th to the 41st of the late King; could be cited,
to show clearly such independence ; he said the
petitioner did not by any means wish or intend to
animadvert on his Lordship's order made the 7th ult.
by which he felt himself aggrieved, as' his Lordship
had a precedent for such order, in one made to the
same effect by Lord Chancellor Ponsonliy in the
year 1806, but a reference to that ease would not
invalidate thAelaims of the present Master of the
Rolls to the right of appointing his own Secretary
—a right which he advanced after several years of
mature deliberation, and with the advice of several

gentlemen of the Barr learned in the law. •
Mr. SAURIN then very briefly adduced some cases
to prove the independence of the ROBS Court, and
said, that it was intended_ merely to throw out those
for --his - Lordship's future consideration ; the case
should be submitted to him in private, on which he
could form his opinion ; it was extremely desirable
that it should not go , forth to the public, that any
unpleasant .feelings 'existed in the .two Courts 'and
more particularly in the present times, when ;here
Was generally prevading a wish and an endeavour to
degrade and bring into contempt those in high
'station. • He would not, until his Lordship% feelings
on the present subject were in some way expressed,
go farther into the case, but would submit it as it
stood, to his Lordship's Judgment.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that in coining to

Ireland he had been told, and he believed rightly,
that efforts were made to advance claims, which were
not urged while his predecessor held \office, and to
overturn arrangements which had existed during the
continuance in office of his predecessor; that being
convinced moreover of the right invested in him, he
made the 'order alluded to of the-17th November;
and, in doing so, he would assure Mr. Saurin, it was
not by any means with a view of prejudging the
cause, as had been insinuated; that with respect to
that part of Me. Saurin's argument respecting the
wish existing in the persons alluded to by hiM, to
degrade and bring into contempt those in high
station, he had but one observation to make—that
he who acted uprightly, whose conduct was open
to investigation, and whose motives were freely
and openly- laid before the public, who felt a
consciousness of acting rightly to the best of his
judgment, had nothing to fear from any man or class
of men; such as
.were alluded to by Mr. Saurin.—
Spch were.his
,(the Lord Chancellor's) feelings, and
thus he disposed of that part of the argument. ith
respect to the order made by Lord Chancellor Pon-
sonby, he felt himself as competent as his successor
to rescind that order if he deemed it of that :nature
that it .ought to be rescinded, and should give the
subject his consideration. Mr. Saurin had declared
that be had given him but an outline of the case;
now he (the Chancellor) wished it to be clearly un-
derstood that he was' ready now to enter fully into
the subject, and should hear with patience the case
fully discussed, and Would, therefore, without wish-
ing to inconvenience Mr. Saurin in any way, call on
him to go on and produce his authorities, docu-
ments, and arguments; in the support of his case.
Mr. SAURIN said, that he was not .
prepared to
proceed, as the various documents, &c. had notbeen
gone through with sufficient care- asd minuteness,
but the case should be submitted to his Lordship.
The CHANCELLOR said he was ready now or at
any other time to proceed, and called on Mr.. fiuritt
to appoint his own time.
Mr. SAURIN said a few words, which could not
be heard across the table distinctly, and put up his
papers, bowed and sat down.
The CHANCELLOR said," there is another petition,
Mr. Saurin, in which it is stated, that in consequence
of my order of the 7th of November, the public bu-
siness has been impeded; now it is highly import-
ant, if this allegation be true; that I should be shown
how that order has interrupted the course of the
public business, and I therefore call upon you to
show instances in support of the allegation, which, if
well founded, I will instantly rescind."
Mr. SAURIN not having shown in what way the
business was interrupted,
The CHANCELLOR said, that he could not suffer
it to go forth to the public that any order of his had
in any way caused such an effect, and he repeated that
if it had been shown to him that his order of the
7th November had tended to such a result,he would
instantly rescind such order. On Monday he would
give his opinion on this part of the subject in ten
words. Here the matter dropped.

Viscount CLTEDEN entertained the
Marquis
and Marchioness of LANSDOWNE, and a large party,to
dinner, uu Sundayr at his seat at Reehampton.