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CAMBRIDGE AND LINCOLN RAILWAY.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
The entire day was taken up with the production of witnesses
whose testimony was of a character precisely similar to the fore-
going, and presented no new feature whatever, and varying only
as to the locality from whence the witnesses came, all of whom
concurred in the general opinion that the Cambridge and Lincoln
scheme would be productive of great benefits to the whole district
through which it was to pass, benefits which they contended could
not be the result of the formation of the London and York line.

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GLOUCESTER AND BRISTOL Ra.xximray.--

(No. 2.)
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
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Mr. John Sanders, Secretary to the Birmingham and Gloucester
Railway, proved the amalgamation to have taken place, and the
expediency of the proposed leasing.

Mr. AUSTIN, on the part of the Great Western Company,
sought only justice. A great portion of the Gloucester
and Bristol line was made by the Great Western Com-
pany, and an agreement for leasing had been signed by
the secretaries of the respective companies. He wanted that
agreement to be honourably carried out. A lease of 999
years was in fact a fee that the present lease was to enable
the Gloucester and Bristol to sell to a hostile company. If this was
attempted to be persevered in, he would oppose the preamble of
the Bill. His object was to recognise the agreement,
not as a legal one, but an honourable one. The
Birmingham and Gloucester were under the control of the Midland
Counties, who were hostile to the Great Western, whereas a
lease of 99 years, under which the interests of all companies would
be consolidated, was what was required.
Mr. DANIEL considered the opposition unjustifiable. The
agreement rested on by the Great Western was one amongst
twenty similar ones, and ought not to have the preference; for, in
point of fact, it was worth nothing.
The room was then cleared, and the Committee, after a short
deliberation, decided that the interests of the Great Western
Company should be protected by a clause recognising the agree-
ment which had been disputed.
The preamble of the Bill was then declared proved.

The clauses were then gone through and passed, with the excep-
tion of the third clause, with amendments, which was left open for
consideration until Monday.
The Committee then separated.

tat I'ERIAL PAitLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF LORDS, Jane 19.
Their Lordsnip sassembled at Five o'clock.
SIR HENRY POT FINGER.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL brought down her Majesty's
answer to their Lordships' address expressive of their con-
currence in her Majesty's message, recommending that a pension
of 1,5001. a year should be granted to Sir Henry Pottinger for
his services in China.
The Duke of WELLINGTON moved that it be entered on
the journals of the House.
Messengers from the Commons brought up several Bills,
which were read a first time.
SCHOOLMASTERS (SCOTLAND) BILL.
This Bill was read a third time and passed.
LEEDS AND WEST RIDING RAILWAY BILL.
Lord BROUGHAM presented a large number of petitions
in favour of this Bill.
SMALL DEBTS BILL.
Lord BROUGHAM said this Bill, which was to save small
debtors the expense of employing attorneys and solicitors, had
been sent back because it contained a provision giving a deputy
gaoler the fee of a shilling for swearing the affidavits of
persons placed under his charge. The Commons, therefore,
objected to the Bill because it passed a tax, and it ought there-
fore to be sanctioned by them first. He had struck out the ob-
jectionable words, and he now had to move that the Bill, as
amended, be read a first time.
Lord PORTMAN objected to the Bill because it proposed,
for the first time, to give deputy gaolers the power of adminis-
tering oaths.
Lord BROUGHAM said the clause did not affect the prin-
ciple of the Bill, and he had no objection to strike it out.
The Bill was then read a first time.
COMMON LAW PROCESS BILL.
Lord CAMPBELL said he had to move for a Select Com-
mittee of their Lordships' House, to search the journals of the
House of Commons respecting three Bills, which their Lord-
ships had sent down to them. He was under the impression
that such a Committee would report that, after the Bills were
read a second time in the House of Commons without any discus-
sion, the Committees on them were postponed for six months. It
might be supposed from this that the Bills were unconstitutional
and likely to act unjustly towards Ireland, but the fact was not
so. Representations had been wade to him that debtors
holding property in Ireland were in the habit of residing out
of the kingdom, and thus evading the just claims of their credi-
tors ; for it was a technical rule in the law of England and
Ireland that no proc.,ss could be served without the debtor re-
sided within the j urisdiction of the Court whence they were issued.
It was necessary that provision should be made for the serving
of process in England or Scotland, or even in France or
Germany, so that a person who had contracted a debt in Ire-
land, and who had left that country, might be placed within
the pale of the law, and that a creditor might have a
remedy against his debtor. A Bill giving those powers
passed with the consent of the Noble and Learned Lord.
It was a measure so well considered and of such a beneficial
tendency that he thought such a course to be most extraordinary.
He thought that when the Government supported a measure in
one House of Parliament, they should also support it in the
other. He thought the Secretary of State for the
Home Department should have got up in his place and
stated that they had been approved of by her Majesty's Go-
vernment.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said that the whole mistake
lay in the Noble Lord entrusting these Bills to a Learned
Friend of his in the Lower House, who had never read them.
After a few words from Lord CAMPBELL,
Lord BROUGHAM said, that the law was in a mostshame-
ful state, and he hoped that if the Noble Lord again brought
in such Bills, he would entrust them to other hands than the
Learned Sergeant.
The motion was then agreed to.
BISHOPS' PATRONAGE (IRELAND) BILL.
The Archbishop of DUBLIN moved the second reading of
this Bill.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE moved that the second
reading be postponed until the 30th instant. It was only laid
on the table on the 16th, and he would venture to say that not
one Noble Lord, except himself and those who had received
private intimation of the fact, were aware that the second
reading would be pressed to-night. It was a most important
measure, and greater time ought to be given for its consi-
deration.
The Earl of WICKLOW considered that there was no
necessity to postpone the second reading beyond to-night. The
Most Rev. Prelate was anxious to leave this country to attend
to his duties in Ireland. He (the Earl of Wicklow)
looked upon the Bill as a natural consequence of the
Bill of last session ; and, besides, it was necessary that no time
should be lost in passing the measure, that the claim on the
Right Rev. Prelate might be settled.
Their Lordships then divided, when there appeared—
Contents—For the second reading 35
Non-contents
Majority ... —l6
On our return to the gallery we found
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE complaining that there
had not been allowed sufficient time to consider the provisions
of the Bill.
Lord BROUGHAM supported the Bill, and protested that
he could not see what stateable grounds of objection there were
to the measure.
Lord COTTENII klll thought, that as the Bill had been laid
on the table of their Lordships' House on Monday last, they
were new in a condition to judge of its merits.
Lord CAMPBELL thought it was a most excellent Bill.
What he would most respectfully suggest, however, was, that
before any step was taken in reference to the certificate of the
judge, the matter should be submitted to a Board before the
action commenced.
Lord BROUGHAM thought that 53 suits pending at one
time were quite enough to make any man's hair stand on
end.—( A laugh.)
The LORD CHANCELLOR said that he pitied his Noble
and Learned Friend, as a Member of that House, if he were
obliged to sit on 53 suits.—( Laughter. )
Lord CLANRICARDE complained of the improper haste
with which the measure was hurried on. He thought that the
rights of guardians and trustees should be regarded, and that
it should be postponed till all parties concerned had had time
to judge of its effects.
Lord DENMAN thought that latterly such suits had dwin-
dled down to comparatively a small number.
After a good deal of conversation, in which the Marquis
of Clanricarde, the Earl of Wicklow, Lords Brougham, Cotten-
ham, Denman, and the Lord Chancellor took part,
The Bill was read a second time, and committed.
The Bills on the table having been advanced a stage, their
Lordships then adjourned.