The Sun.
London, England, 1820-09-08 00:00:00

PAM, IA M F NT,

HOUSE OF LORDS, THURSDAY, SEPT. 7.

THE QUEEN.
[Continuation of the. Proceednigs of yesterday.]
The following is the conclusion of the. Cross-
Examination of MIJOCCI.

C.Z. Perhaps M►. Powell never spoke to you at all about the
buiiness of the Queen

Some Noble Lord objected to this question being put,
grounding his objection, as we understood, on the character
of •Mr. Powell relative to the proceeding.
Mr. BROUGHAM said be Was sure that it was not ex-
pected he should answer that objection. Any thing that Mi.
Powell said was as much evidence as the conversation of any
other person.
The LORD CHANCELLOR thought the Counsel had a
right to ask, did Powell say so and so, with a view to call a
witness to contradict the statement or answer of the present
• Witness..

• Mr.-BROUGHANI—Your Lordship observes I- ask about
an occurrence in which_ a third person is ilresent.
Q. Do you mean to represent that you never had any
conversation with Mr. Powell about the business of the
Queen I—A. How—what do you mean I don't understand
what you say.
The question was directed to be repeated, and the Inter-
preter suggested that be might be allowed to change the word
" conversation" in the question to " spoken."
Has Mr. Powell never spoken to you about the business
of the Queen ?—Mr. Powell spoke to me at Milan when I
made my deposition, 'but after that he Doer spoke tome on
the subject.
Did you ever see this letter before (showing the witness a
letter) ?—Never.
Do you know a person of the name of Long did not.
Were you ever at the Globe Tavern ; the place, I mean,
where you used to dine with Gavacci ?-1 know nothing of
the name of the tavern.

Do you know the name of the master of that tavern
I should see him I should know him.

.
IN;,,w while he is coming, I'll just put another question.
Did you ever see Mr. Powell and his clerk ?—Yes. . .
e Frquently ?—I have seen them sometimes.

How long were yon ever with him, or them, at any one of
those times ?—I have seen him, and merely paid my respects
to him.

Now look round, and see if that is the master of the Globe
Tavern—(t'h'e witness's attention was here directed to a per-
son named Joseph James Long) ?—Yes.
Did you employ that person to write a letter for you to
Mrs. Blackwell, you not being able to write ?—He has
written twice for me; once to Mr.' Hyatt, and once to Mrs.
Blackwell.

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Should you know either of CmSo letters if I were to show
them to you gut hi o to write them, and he said, here
are the letters, but 1 never took them, and should not know
them.
Alr. BROUGHAM begged to apprise their Lordships, that
he now meant to ask tic witness it he did not give such and
such instructions, and state certain things, nut asking as to
the contents of the letter.
The LORD CHANCELLOR thought that the Counsel
might ask a witness if hr did, not desire A. B. to write so
and so.
Did you not desire Mr. Long to write a letter to Mrs.
Blackwell to the following_effect ?—I begged him to.write a
letter.

Did you desire him to write in thii manner have
safely delivered the letter to your brother, and he was quite
welt, and desires to be remembered to you kindly ?"-1 told
hint to %lite that I had not given her letter to her brother,
but had left it with his wile, and to give compliments to the
rest of the family.
Did you not 'give instructions to Mr. Long-to add, that you
had got a situation,- and was going to Vienna that evening ?
Yes; I told him I was setting oat for Vienna.
Did you not desire to be lemembered to Few, Madame
Catalani, Madame and Mrs. Hughes's brother, mean-
ing !Ors. Hughes's sun, whom you were accustomed to call
brother ?—As au act pf friendship.
Do you mean that you used to call Mrs. Hughes's son
" brother," as an act 'of friendship ?-Yes.
-Did you desire Long to write " After I left you all, I could
not eat, nor drink, nor sleep ; so God bleps you all ? —lt was
jokingly that 1 wrote so.
Did you never propose to marry Mrs. Blackwell, or any
other person- in the service of her Royal Highness ?—(ln a
very loud and rather angry tone)—l wanted to marry Mrs.
Blackwell, and all the women in the house.—(Laughter from
all parts of the House.)
Were you never at Paris in 1818 or 1819 ?,—No.
Were you never there at all in 1819?—Never.
Re-examined by the ATTORNEY-GENERAL.

*R. You .have been asked concerning some Napoleons which
you received to go to Vienna; I wish to know in what capa-
city you went thither?—A. As a courier.
Did you. receive any..older to proceed to Vienna with all
possible dispatch ?—Yes, I was 'ordered to go as quickly as
possible.
For what purpose were those Napoleons given to you pre-
vious to your setting off' for Vienna ?—For my expenses on
this journey.
Were you to account for them ?—Yes.
Did you after Wards account for them ?—Yes; I gave an
account of my expenses at Vienna.
You have been asked whether you took a note for Mr.
Powell to a certain great house. I wish to know for what pur-
Pose'you were 'to take that letter thither ?—As far as I remem-
ber it was to obtain a passport.
On that occasion, what part of the house did you go to ?
I went in at the Swiss's lodge, at the outer gate; then across
the court, and up the steps; there I rang the hell, and the
-door was opened, and I went in; and afterwards I returned
the same way out.
Bow long was the time between your going in and coming
out ?—About half au hour, nut more.
When you lett the great house, did they send you to any
other place to get your passport ?—Yes. •
Where ?—To the Minister of the—the—Austrian Ambas-
sador.
Add they
slidan ytonthere
gave get yourt
ip.ass4poorrt.t 1-1 showed them the
letter,
Whom did you see at the great house ?—I saw a footman,
and a German, a sort of ecuyer.
IVltotti else did you see at the great house ?—I saw a big
non, rather handsome,' who could speak neither French nor
Italian, and therefore we spoke by signs.
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Fur what purpose did you go to the great house The first
time I was to carry a packet, and then 1 was sent to it.
Did you bring that packet over with you when you came to
England ?—Yes.
,t ell isle, as well as you can remember, how many times al-,
together you went to the great house?—As well as I realm-
u,r, I was there three times.
Yon have told us what you went for the first time, now
tell us, if you recollect, what you went fur the other two times?
The second time I went to see if there was any answer to the
packet, for which I had the receipt
And the third time ?—liecause, as ther2 was no answer,
they told use to call again.
Then was it the third time, or another time, that you went
for the passport ?—lt was another
By the Earl' of ItOSEBEItitY.—How many persons were
in company with you on your journey to Vienna was
alone. '
Then how could you give an account- of your expences,
since I Understand you to have said you cannot write?—lt was
not a written account ; but I told them what the expences
were ?
BY Earl GREY.—Then are we to understand, therefore,
that. you can neither read nor write ?—I can only write my
name, and hardly that—very badly.
And is that all you cats write ?—Yes ; I newer could write
letters nor accounts.
The• Noble Earl I hen referred to the minutes of this wit-
ness's cross-examination, the second day, from which the fol-
lowing questions and answers were read :
How lung were youiti England whets you were in Mr.
Ilyatt's service?--I do not remember, because I have not the
book in which 1 made the memorandum.