The Sun.
London, England, 1811-03-22 00:00:00

‘.l (.0, of .e; that which ought not to be discofeele
teem ti . enseeitede importenee, 1111)1110i it
hp to Ise brought eatier their censidera7
,WI) t, r, ay tie press to become, intolerant,
one say, “•you steel not deems such a Rib:Jett r'
H • re,n, inhered what had had taken place in the
National e,embly of the Isleed of 'St. Domingo, '
wh; e, in consequence at the attempt to extend the
hbertt id he press, the moe dreadful scenes pc.
enrred `ll ose who were.. to he benefited by it,
rose a d nueeecred their friends indiscriminately
with their foes, and et length 4nel:et:fled in meking
themselves sovereigns ot the edited. :inch might be
the cooserfueeres 01 the iotrodnetion of the liberty
of the press ki4 India. They ought in watch care-
fuily over the interests of that cautery, bet not think
oleonced.ne, that privilege.
Mr. Wtir.t.Ace and Mr. Locetteir 'severally
exelainee;
Mr. Witerseuen sale, the Hon. Gentleman, who
had Psi Neekens had mentioned the licentiOnsnese
'of the pre e, and Observed that it bad taken sumo
strides. He (Mr. Whitbread) was of opinion that
it had taken some Foul les, but those strides appeared
to inn to be taken backwards. It the Hun. Geu-
dente: leuke t back to what had been nehlished.
many ears ,:go, and, compared those publications
,Vvitit what peered from the press nt the present day,
be thought he also woold bit of opinion, that
the motion of the press was retrograde and not pro-
tare-wive. His Friend was aware, that to
place -the press sty India on the same footing as in
. Entelend, Might be dangerous. The Government
of India !fad been Acquired as the Hon. Gentleman
had said,' by conquest, by compact, and by forfei-
ture, but he had -omitted one short monosyllabic in.
paining that which had tended snore to give us that
acquisition than any thing else, Ho had not men-
tioned the word " F'raud." If those ills might arise
from-extending-the liberty' of the press to
which the HOnoorable Gentleman had Vie t'hought
wrongly) ascribed to that measure' in St. ,DOrningo,
still he (Mr. W.) thought no evil c mid he expect-
ed to result from an attempt to sortell the mi3ery
of the people; 'bet, on the contrary ilia' it would
tend to prop that power which must otherwise
crumble into dust. The paper moved tot ought
to 'be woke:ed.- If the regehitionb made by the
Nlarquis Wellesley wait 004, they ought to be
brought forward to justify him ; and it they were
unwise stud impalilie, they ought to
,be producede
tlee they n»glit be canvassed. The lion. Qen-
tlPman had field the 'people of India ~were' not
in the situation in winch it had been aid they were,
as they were governed by personstwho were respon.
siblelor their conduct to that House. After this,
.however, when they were called to account to that
lioube, that Hon. ljentleman opposed the product,
tion of the paper retrisite for their information.
Tot. only was it considered right to withhold from
thi.• natives of India mor.ll arid political information)
'bet it was even thought proper to deny them a
knotiledge of Cheueitnity. To4tipporl a political
despotism, 'tiny would not let trern have the light
o th,n gospel tornugh which
,they hoped for tolva.
Con themselves,—(Are, finer the Trcosory Bosch
One How Gentieman Teel eeereseed himaclf needy
t' h tt i•tfect, and the Might Roo. Secretary hiMself
*had scented-about to say let, whet' ,the enortnil 01
the plopoetem appeared to startle 3 hint. He was
sorry tins ells Ussion had taken place, to' show the
wolld the rettAwl situetioo of those who were
called our I.liew-stlitie, ts, het Mei were not so in
" but thuse (~.tht Mi. W.) wboiti we and our
fvl;ow.Sllbjetl 'A (lei: 01, over e"- H thoueln ibis
eente on would • been e 'ed tit the
toonas•-i,oti or the leper. 1: woold have heen per-
fectly hal mless,
.s4tol it Sitio vim! none good, at it
tk,"1,1 have the M
ed rite eoentrye by sett,wiug What was
%%piing: .
Mr. R. Dutra/is explained. He "Was not for
withholding from the natives of India the light of
Giristianity, he only wislicd keep skit teem
them which would kid t( tintwittio4i 00ci.edings.
Mr. n MOAK AD bad ooderatood him to's:ly, in
attempt to do emilty thin .'taw's and Sopeistitions of
Itlititft, tail wonld he. it'ePthPYr. '
ust the Iteeeecture thought
tI e avgitniems et the'ffe Gentleelen were by no
Iht.3lls ithirtHeOt tti 0M11) dirt 1111 it the ea.
pee Gentlettire etould remembet th It the liberty.
of the Bra's was, plit hheld from , the-
firineiples G
,the oveinnient, but from tins disposi-
tions of the natives themselves. They were In that
state that it might do. them lunch harm, though if
11.07'were loss i..!noreet it might be expected to be
produCiitte -ot the gr,atest gist 1; He was glad his
Hight Hon.. lies lei had So well explained sway
what had heel) sad of •withholding from the nip
lives the light of Christianity. No such disposition
existed, btu it was wisely thought Government
should ahvain 'from openlyexerting 'wall., to further
I be Canie rd Chi fitia tiny, lese't hey should be' repres..,
~,iterf Iri thin people as attemptitu to impose upon
them a new religion. On all twciiiions, when pa-
pers were clawed for in that he thought a
better red ot should be given,,than thatl they were
deSiri;cl out of curiosity , end the paper.retjusted by 1
the Nable hotel ought not, in his 'opinion, to 'be-'
given', as giVing it without ail substantial reason '
for its production having been given, they would
seem to admit there appeared grounds for eta same,
the Govettiment of India.
Sir Joint NeviironT supported the motion, and
thought no one reason had been' given why the pa-
pure should not Ott granted,
Sir J. ANsilittrilltit eXplitibest
Led A. Hera 11-TON replied at some length. The
Pelee meeed tale wae, iii his (.900.1011, that whieh,
of ptiwrifi ought to be proiluted at the pr aie "
c, Ws) as the Contlxiny-were shortly,eistOnig to h a_
tot a rete.wel of their charter.- He thought
he kid idiewri sufficient grounds for the produelion
ot opt paper, it-d would ceriami) sake the sense ist
t I ry- she Jititicet.
Mr. R. DenoAs and Mr. C severally
plained.
,alt'. G. Jolt NSTOria would vote against the run_
ti fie t 4,0, stet 4,4,1ge teat the rower eritrubtrd
to the Govcrnitnnt of India had beets misused, and

was fully convineid tirt the most rnischionnq (Atli
wieuld result from,fillowing a tree press to exist It
India.
The Home divided, when tile numbers were...
Ayes, 18—Noes, 63..-. Majority, 36.
Sir Osvirms Mo*v..tet moved for leave to bring
in a 13111 to render valid certain Indentures binding
parmi 4 ppirtiliCt.4l.
_ _ _

Leave being granted. the Bill was accordingly
brought in, and rtad a first time. Ordered tor aM.
cord reading on Tue
Mr. 'Jut-ems:soN Aave notice, that on the first
open day he would call ,rho attention of the House
to the application of the Military force, and Military
Polity in general,
Mr. Dvwrm moved tor the appointment of a Se.
tem Committee on India .A.frairs, which tie Ft:l)mM
consist of the same Members as before, with
only two exceptions, the one, that of an Hon. Gen-
tleman Who could not attend, Mid the other, that of
the Chancellor, of the Exchequer; who was likewise
prevented from attendance.
After some clisetrosion between Mr. CitUEVEY,'
Mi. DUNDAS, Lord FoLksTowit, Mr. WALLIS, Mr.
'WHITIIIISAO, and Mr. GIANT, the House divided,
when there appeared-.4ur the Motion .54—Agaimt
19—ntjority
Wri on .we were re-admitted into the Gallery, we
found

Mr. li'Ve.t:t.st.e'r Put.t lees, moving, that
a
the House should, to-morrow, resolve itsinto a
Committee, to take into. consideration the papers
presented to, the House on Friday last by Mr. Secre-
tary Ryder,, respecting the .eotton ante woollen Mit-
nufatiures 'of Ireland. The circumstances' to t bid)
these papers 'referred were shortly- these: in the
month. of July last, in consequence of some com-
mercial embarrassments, several manufa(iturers of
Dublin were reduced to great distress, and a repre-
sentation was made to the Lord Lieutenant on the
subject. Ills Grace duetted a Committee of the
Council to make an inquiry int!, the subject. An
investigation, upon. oath, tank, place, and a Iteport
was made, which recommended the' adoption of the
precedent of ma, when, under similar circum-
ritances, a sum of money had been advanced ((tribe
relict of the Manufacturers In consequence of this
Report,- a negociation was entered into with the
Dank, for tit, advance' of the Aunt of 200,0001, Coin.:
rniSi3ollerS for - the management and-distribution of
this stun, consisting of some of the Most respectable
Merchants in Dublin, were Appointed, vud,the result
was, that the roost complete relief was ntferded to
the distressed Manufacturers.. It would appear from
these papers, that between-it! and- i 3,000 persons
had been kepteinphled in consequence ut the ad-
vance of this molter, who must other %vise have
been discharged. 1 he papers which had been prc-
sentedcontamed the whole of the proccednigs rela-
tive to this tratisadien, and Ire prouo-ert Oa! they
sl4lulti be referredlo a COlllinitle e.. and upon the
report of that Gominittec, ire should more I_•r-leaVe
to bring in a Nilo Secure the Bank of Ireland from
any loss an the occasion.
•-lie had every rkiis9ll to
back, however, tbat no loss whaterer woufd ensue
(rum this transection. In 1793, when it e same
G-nilemen woo now- managed the distribution of
this stun, took the taint; ottr..e, they. coocriet,-d the
bthillt:6% in Such' a.manoer, that there wits not only
no ions, but there : was actually. a smell gain. 'the
loans wort* tilaile at bix pet Cent. Upon security
Oo‘crnment paid five per cent. for the money, and
theredtrini.ig ore p-r cent. tun only covered all the
eteences ttiot were 'lncurred upon occasion, but
d ~,i„tia.l %Llivl:l3,ill,o the EXChinll.lci.
110110.1; scary ror Into !tisay iliprc typi.4l.llkl:; ocO'itop,
bit' he strut{ I be ready- to give -any..explatti:Aon that
.nt be requ red. Ho concluded., with roving,
oit 'the papers- be reterved LU a Conitnittee ; Which.
was agreed to; .
The urnal Indemnity Bill was breught.,in, -and
read a first time,

'Tire Report on tire CommcreildCrtiii 001,480
taken further' conbrderatron. . , ,

Mr. U. 'llifiliNTON proposed, 118.81) Syleitcitr.tint
oil the clawie w hich violated rile Jotertst upoo.eiegy
)001. at' 2d. ii.day, thin it should adrofoA of,2ld'pec:
day. •

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The CAA 14CeLL(ni of the vonenifita thought
that they shinld 110 t Wirt hen those. in whose rbhei
they pfulecied in etiiilfl lot ward.
Alter bonne further disewmou between Mr. Tier-
ney, Mr. fluskiition, Mr. flaring, Mr. Roie, and
Mr. iiitihert, >s division took place on the Amend-
ment

Ayr: . 2
2,4 °CS • . j

Majority, x
Mr. WOITHREAD wished to know' in what stale
thei Esche,qu, r Bills stood which were voted tar the
relief of the West India Merchants

Sir T. Tuttro'N asked whether any tunes was in.
tatted to 1,0 given if the bills were nut brought. in
an fest ni expected ?
The Cain t.441.1,..011 of .theEsettuciven laid :there
%Pima rrpori upon that satyr t iu tho Exchequer)
and if any one wi,huLl, tie time tut it.
Severalyerbal Amendments woe then made its
the Bin, and it witordered to Lie read 3 third time t
miaow. •

Tbelitia lolibuneot ,Bill was te.comtunted,
snd olderLd to be LA:ell iota,' further considiratioa
on Monday Item. Tins was ordered to be
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Thu Report of the txthequer Bills Funding Bill
was brought up. . ' -
The llitl wo ordered' to be read third
MarroW.

Mr. Lot*en pnitporied the Foreign Mioistple Sa-
14ry Bill ti,ll Friday sethuight.
'the other Ordera of the Day were. di4p?sed of;
40141 -Pi liali-va;t. Tvalve, the ticts7
j‘4lrned.

A Cloarterty Meeting of itai:k Proprivo,a was
YettultlY held the Jiank, at which it.e Co‘erfloi,
(Mr. l'itAitse) ',resided. L'hu divi4lcoo, vrilich will
be clue lo Ihtf PrOprietOrA MI the Stir oss. Aped item,
was th ciarvci to bi.t 5 per grill. tor ih yo'or tut!
Da' 1% paying the Inckolie l'ax.t,orcnit«
Attar some conversation, ot au public inietvat.

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The Speectes.ma.te by the Marquis WELLE4I.4,I
and Lord Liveeetio I. upon the stibiea of the pe,
conia'ry aid advanced to Portugal, cont.,ined the most
satisfatiory information relative to the state of that
country. • The latter .Noble Lord, in reply to Lord
GaeNvit:Le, compared the situation of Portugal at
present, vith What it was a year age. At that time
her military force was smell in number, 11l disci-
plined,-and ill equipped now, it amounted, in.
eluding the, militia, to borL.veen eighty and ninety
thousand cum With respeet to the discipline
of the Portuguese tromps, his Lordship eppeal-
. ed to the testimony of those Office's who ,had
witnessed their condud at the bode of Busaco.
He showed ids° that Lord GavoteLe was him..
red, when he stated that we only possessed so
Much of Portugal, ;r-s was at present occupied by
.our troops, by proving, that in four of the six
provinces into which Portugal is divided, there
was not a French soldier to be found; and to Spain,
his Lordship said,. that the French, notwithstanding
allthe exertions and sacrifices they had made were
not in fact masters of one single Province. The argn,
inents that were urged to,shew the policy of count
"ading,by every means in our power, the designs of
'Berman arms upon the Peninsula,were unanswerable;
. indeed we we at. a loss to conceive how any doubt
can be•entertained upon the stibjeeL. The number
of troops that have beetr sent into Spain and Portu •
gal, since the. commencement of the contest, by,
way of B3y9tule, has been estimated at 40 t ?ow; in-
filwri, and fiB,ooo cavalry ; and the nutouers that
have entered Spain,:by way of Catalonia, bate been
estimateclat iiio,ooo men, =making together neer
"bs,to,ooo- men ; and .of this immense force it is sop-
poied that not above two hundred and'fitty thou-
sand remain !•.
:This is. net our ematimate.--'we have
extracted it treat the Morning Chronicle of January
last. Have we then deriyed.no advantage frein the
:Support we have given to ;Spain and Portugal, even
supposing that the contest were to end to.o.torrow.
-But after this intrriense, sacrifice :of human lives;
Spain and Portugal yet remain to be conquered,—
"We, have not room to expand upon this subjed, nor
'indeed is itnecessiny ; but we cannot help observ-.
that when it was supposed that 'a change of
AdalipilittiOCM was about to take place, we ex-
. pressed our apprehension tat one 'of the first
ads of. the new. Ministers would he to abandon
the cause of the Peninsula. Upon thins occasion the
Morning Chronicle accused us of " malignant and
wilful,misrepresentation," for attributing such enin
tention to those Noblemen and Gentlemen Voir&
were expected, to form the new Adcniaisirittion. ins
answer to that accosation, we beg to tiler to Lord •
.klitarivtu.a's Speech of last
.night. ' •

LOAN or EXCInQuEtt Bit.t.s.--By the Bill beftire
Parliament:, thel.ordsot the Treasury are empower-
id to thrett any number Of Exchequer Bills to be
made out,, containing different sums of „tool. 601.
and 201. eitch, not exceeding in the whole the aunt
of six millions. The Bill to beat aninterest of two-
Pence halfpenny. perceriturn per diem. One fot,rth
part of each class of Bills fo be made payable on the
tat of February, 'lBl2 ; on other fourth part on ale
3d Of May, 1812 ; one other fourth part On the 4th
of August, 1812 ; and the reaihing fourth pill on
the ed of N m
ovember, 8 1 But no Exchequer Bill
made gut under this A.t is to be received iu pay-
ment of Customs, Excise or Revenue, " at any tint,
before the ,14 on which Exchequer Bill is
appointed to be paid." The names of the Cu. tois.
s.oneri appoitiltd to execute the Aft, are—Lord
Hintimi, Hon. W. Lamb, Esq. W. B. Lygoi,, Esq.,
J. J,. Smith, lisq. Sir James bhaw, UM, Sir John
Perritig, 1.1 art. H. C. Coinbe, C. Grunt, Esq.
•J. Stlo4ll, Tituw.is flughan, t sq. J. C. Curwen,
,
Esq. B Eq. J. lirogde.l), Eig. C. kiv-
sanctut;t, El. J. , ••Eis. AC Raikoi, Esq.
C. -Pek E q J. high., hvi. •f. Bairibr like, q.
tiolford, liettonon fiarriqon,
Exdteteer B us subsCriberl .3;o:tit:Nay to be
funded air.outitod to. 2,f4G,0001. 114,iny irtquities
It :Ivo% been made :whether it we; probable that
e Whill he any alteration its the terms, pr. pQael I;
14ro NJ tro 'f2,or.td aufhosity, thoi. nu lain'
011 114,4