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were low gone into by Dr. Borrows, +Ol7 h wore
nearly the same as those alreaflyeia evidence.] lie
next eesetibed meeting! with Mr. Davies on the
31st of July, at Philpot-lane, and et Casesebli \I en
the 4th of August. • Before thitewitseas said hie had
repeatedly advised Mrs. ByWater for her own slice—
for that of her son—and for the seke of the puhlie, ;al
to have some persons placed round his psrsan so as
to prevent any danger to himself or others. The
visit to Mr. -D.:Vies on the 4th of August, at Crouch-
, hill, Dr. Burrows thus described :—" When I went
to the door, I saw a female servant. Soon after I
came, I heard- a violent crashing noise in the next
room, as if of the breaking of glass, and an outcry
from some person. I pushed against the door, bat
my entrance was resisted by some person inside. I
at last -got in, and saw Mr. Davies strsigerng lei' h
two keepers. He was in his shirt—ono leeve of
which was bloody. There were several servants in
the room. At first it appeared to me as if they were
acting against the keepers, but they were to mixed
up, and there was so much confusion, I could not
make any thing of it. I spoke to Mr. Davies, and
took him by the hand—but before this, I spoke
angrily to the keepers, and said why don't you bring
the straight-waistcoat ? There was no straight-
waistcoat brought; nor had I ever directed the use
of one for him, before or since. When I spoke
to him, he seemed at first disconcerted, and said
that when he saw my carriage drive up, he (bought
I was come to take him away. • I toll him I had no
such intention, and that it was by my desire he was
brought to his own house. He asked me if I !houghs
him insane; and 'answered, that if I did not think him
so I should not have advised his being placed- under
restraint. - He said he would give me a proof chat
he was not insane, and drew the chairs iound in a
circle, and told us all to sit down. The!e were
then three men and three women servants, and the
two keepers, in the room. He said he would prove
to us that he wes not- insane by snaking a speech.
I went up to.feel his pulse, and told the servants to
leave the room; but they refused, and said they
would not go. After a little time I went a ffay.
had nothing to do wirh Mr. Davies's removal from
Crouch-hill to Portland-terrace, but I visited him
there by order of his mother. I called there twice,
bat he would not see me either time. I understood
Mr. Nobler prevented him. On the 19th of Au-
gust he was removed to my " Retreat" at Clap-
ham-road, but wholly without my advice or partici-
pation. I knew he was going- there, but I would
not advise it—such is not my practice. As far as
my knowledge goes,. he has received every kindness
and attention since he went there; but there was
one thing wanting. I never heard him make any
complaint of the servants, or of the superintendents,
or of any person. On the contrary, he spoke wide
the greatest kindness of the treatment he received.
Every attention was paid to him. He lisd a sit.
ting-room and bed-room, and every o: her conve-
nience, for his mother's allowance for hint was most
liberal. He bad ample opportunities of air and
exercise, for the Retreat stands in the midst of 22
acres of ground, and there is a flower- etude!) of
about three acres. On the 15th of September I
visited him, in company with my superintendent,
Mr. Pollard. He (Davies) called out to us—
" Come here, ye villains, and sit down." This
was the first titne he had used ally such lan-
guage to us. His sister, Mrs. Pugh, was pie-
sent. He then made_ several allusions to insi-
nuations made by some of my set vents as
to his being addicted to unnatural propensi-
ties. He also complained of workmen calling
out the names of Nicholson and Hatfield, the lunatics
in his presence. I have two persons in nay employ-
ment named Nicholson and Hatfield. He d4l, I
have no doubt, hear the names of those persons called
out. I endeavoured to convince him that he was
quite mistaken as to imputations being made as to
his conduct, but lie persisted, in the ass..rtiorr, and
even in the presence of his sister. I suggested that
his .sstershould leave the room while he made those
remarks, hut he said that his sister should hear all
the charges made against her brother. Ile also
complained of his mother's cruelty in Placing
under restraint. He also complained of me. He
treated me with very great reserve since Mr. Hoble.'s
visits to him. Latterly his general health has been
much improved, and his nerves in a better state.
Latterly he has not admitted me to his confidence a
a physician. He would never let me feel his pulse
or examine his tongue, or allow me to prescribe for
him. I do not now, from my knowledge of Mr.
Davies's case, believe that he is sane. 1 think that
he is insane, and incapable of managing himself oe
his affairs. I believe that many persons under a states
of mental delusion may-exercise self contronl, art's
answer questions so as to conceal that delusion.,
'(Dr. Burrows here was asked to mention en install( e
and he mentioned the case of a Miss Dancey, who
was labouring under a particular delusion, which,
rendered it necessary for her friends- to place her in
:his Retreat.) For the nine months she remained in
my house, she-so completely concealed this delusion,
that we could never obtain any information which.
could lead us to suppose that she nets under any de-
lusion. At the end of that time she was taken,
away, by her friends, hut before she bad passed my
garden wall her delusion returned.

Dr. Burrows added that he had known many in-
stances of persons insane, who had such control over
themselves a.; to be able to conceal the delusion
under which they laboured, but not for so long a
period as in the case he had'mentioned.
Cross-examined by Mr. BuouGnA3r.---I did be-
lieve the complaint or Ins throat, by Mr. Davies,
was a delusion. I do believe that a sane person
may have a pain in his throat_ which one could not
refer to external appearance, and without any delu-
sion. Mr. Davies sometimes quoted poetry---some.
times aptly. When I went down to Crouch-hill on
the 4th of August I found that there was a resist-
ance made to my entrance into the room where Mr.
Davies was, I found two female servants in the
room when I got in. I pushed in the doer with a
little force—much was not necessary. The noise I
heard was as if of a perky breaking through the
window. This was before I attempted to get into
.the roam. I do not believe that it was at tho mo-
ment of my entrance the crash of glass was made.
When I came is he was in the bands of the keepers.
•In a few minutes he became more calm, and putting
•the chairs in a circle round the table, desired us all,
to sit down, and that he would give us a specinon,
of his powers of mind, and would make an oration. I
sat down before this. Ile said--" Come, and
answer any questions you put." I rather think it
was I asked him to sit down. I have sworn that on
that day ho said he was a great orator. I was aware
that he was going to my house, but I did not take
any part in that. I gave ti e order to two of my..
attendants on the morning of the 4th of August, to
take him as insane, I had seen him on the 31st at
-Philpot-latte, luit I had only seen him. I had trot
had any communication with him since the 24th of
July. I heard of him in the interim. it is not
common for me to treat people as insane, and to cer-
tify it, without having seen them. I never did give:
such a certificate, at least as the stet required, oft
having seen the party.
Did you ever give aux
,ostler of any kind for de-
taining a person as insane, withrnit seeing aim ?
Dr. 1.1“;:rows----1 am ready to answer any arul
every question in any way connected with the cAse.
before the Court, but I must deelinl to tiniweC,
questions as to matters net connected with it,
Mr. BROUGHAM—Vcry well; you dectine to an-
swer it.

Crois.exarealuation continued Mr. Davies camp
to my house on the 19th of August. Since then I
have often seen him, and tidal: hint much better, as
far as be permitted one to judge; but he withdrew
his confideneo horn sue about that time. I tray
have seem-him four or five times a-wet k. I taws) s
o twice a-week to the Retreat, and oftener when
required. About 510 or 30 medical gentlemen visited
him from time to time. I was anxious to give them
every facility, but I was nor pre;:tnt with any of
them with him. Upwards of 150 persons visited
him, or at least there were that many visits. In the
'ally stage of Mr. Davies's ease, Immerous writers,
or any thing that (coul,l increase excitement, would