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LONDON,
SATURDAY EVENING, OCTOBER 24, 1829.

We have no arrivals to-day from France, nor
indeed from any part of the Continent. Per-
haps by Monday we may be indulged with a
German garbled copy of the Treaties yet missing.
Russia seems to be as much ashamed of avow-
ing the amount of the plunder as Ttirkey is loth
to tell the nature of the property.

Several French captains of vessels, who have
lately arrived from Hayti in the ports of France,
greatly complain of the rigourous treatment they
experienced by the officers of the police in the
ports of that Republic, particularly since the new
difficulties took place between France and Hayti.

Letters from Havannah are in town to the
10th Sept. inclusive. A French vessel had sailed
from thence with troops and provisions for Tam-
pico. The capture of the place, and the subse-
quent engagement, bad been made known at
Havannah, and in the latter the loss of the Spa-
nish force, in killed and wounded, is said to be
under 100 men.

The East India Company seem to have
enough on their hands at presmit, for what, with
military remonstrance abroad, and civil discus-
sion at home, we think their private reflections
are not the most enviable. The subject of a
free trade to India is now the daily theme of
contemplation and remark. There is not a large
ma►►ufacturing town in the kingdom but has
taken up the question, with an ardour propor-
tioned to the immense benefits expected to be
derived from a participation in the commerce of
Hindostan. The principle of self-interest sti-
mulates public bodies as keenly as private
individuals, and with this manifest advantage,
that the meanness applicable to individual sel-
fishness loses its disgraceful character in the
universality of a public body, claiming and pro-
fessing a community of interest. The East
India monopoly, like other monopolies, has had
its day, and must yield to the force of circum-
stances produced by the temper of the times
and the spirit of commercial enterprise. The
large towns of England have had meetings on
the subject of a free trade to India and China, and
on Monday last a meeting of the Merchant
Company of Edinburgh took place, for a report
of which we have not room, but which the Cale-
donian Mercury informs us was conducted with
great decorum, while the question was treated by
the " enlightened individuals who took part in
the discussion with a degree of candour, ability,
and information, which does them very great
credit indeed. It is in this way, and in this
alone, that truth and knowledge are most rapidly
and effectively diffused ; it is by accurate state-
ment and fair reasoning, not by declamatory
Philippics or rhetorical exaggerations, that con-
, victim is produced, and the public mind prepared

for judging of the real merits of the questiOn at
issue."

The more we consider the subject, the more
we feel assured that we cannot too highly ap-
plaud the Earl of MOUNTCASHEL for his spi-
rited conduct at the Reformation Meeting lately
held at Cork. He has come forward at a most
seasonable period, when the crying nuisance of
the Irish Church Establishment, its unwise plu-
ralities, and defective arrangement of property,
are uppermost in the minds of all thinking
people. How injudicious, indeed, must be the
nature of ecclesiastical property in Ireland, how
destructive to all good order and discipline, when
a Protestant Bishop (Dr. ELRINGTON, of
Ferns,) gravely comes forward, and asserts, by
way of decisive answer to the charges of undue
wealth preferred against the Irish Episcopacy,
that his Right Rev. Brother of Derry has only
fifteen, instead of twenty thousand, per annum !
The excellent resolutions preferred at the Cork
meeting strike at the foundation of this evil, and
delighted are we to learn that they have already
produced a sensation not only in Ireland, but
throughout England, where the same inju-
rious monopoly, on a more graduated scale,
still exists, and will continue so to do till
the axe of the woodman is applied vigorously
to the root. The Irish 'Ecclesiastical Establish-
ment is a monopoly, and Dr. ELRINGTON has
not been able ,to contradict us, of the richest
and most extensive pluralities. It is an esta-
cblishment that provides for the few, while it im-
poverishes the many. It is at variance midi the
spirit of the Gospel, with common sense, with
the exigencies of the State, and gives to religion
a mercenary, business-like air, wholly at vari-
ance with its character. As ardent lovers of our
holy Protestant faith, we would wish to see it
purged of these incumbrances. We would wish
to see the system of pluralities abolished, or at
any rate considerably narrowed in their principle,
and the profits of a diocese equitably adjusted
among the Clergymen of that diocese, instead of
being devoted to increase the worldly luxuries of
one or two pampered ecclesiastics. At the time
of the downfall of the Papal hierarchy it was one
of the chief objections urged against it by the
Protestant Reformers that it was too rich—too
worldly for its purpose. What is to prevent the
same objection being urged against the present
Irish Establishment ; and, if not timely attended
to, what is to prevent its similar downfall, and
with similar justice ?

In publishing, two days since, the Speech de-
livered by the King of the NETHERLANDS, on
the opening of the States General, it will be re-
collected we expressed some doubt of the sin-
cerity of his MAJESTY'S professions of liberality,
and as we should regret being supposed to have
made such an insinuation without foundation,,
we feel bound to state the facts on which our

opinion rests.
The Debates of the last Session of the States
General were the most stormy that have been
known since the formation of the kingdom, and
the general tone of dissatisfaction that prevailed
among the Deputies, is pretty good evidence of
the discontents that exist among the people.
These discontents may be divided into two
classes—the one of the party called Liberal, the
professed object of whose endeavours is the
amelioration of society—the other of the Catho-
lics of Belgium, including the Clergy and that
portion of the Laity whose ruling sentiment is
their attachment to their religion. The Liberal
Party have been justly irritated by an attack
lately made by the Government upon the Press,
in using a power to arrest committed to it for
temporary purposes at. :the return of BONA-
PA RTE from Elba, to imprison the authors of
some remarks on the expediency of continuing
that power indefinitely. Two gentlemen, whose
characters both as literary and public men, stand
high in the estimation of Europe (M. M. de
POTTER and DUCPETIAUX) are new in prison
for an offence of which they have never been
convicted by a legal tribunal ; and what is very
remarkable, within three days after their com-
mittal, the public opinion forced the Government
to submit a project to the Chambers for the al-
teration of the law, and it is now wiped away from
the Statute Book. When a Government thus
attacks the free expression of opinion, people
begin to look with mistrust at the advisers of
such a measure ; but by the Constitution of the
Netherlands, the Ministers are not responsible
for the advice they give their Sovereign, although
the maxim " the King can do no wrong " exists
in its largest interpretation. The Jury has been
abolished, and the Judges being removable at
the pleasure of the Crown, the Press is now the
only security in the Netherlands for the main-
tenance of Constitutional Freedom. As Eng-
lishmen, and knowing the benefits of the practi-
cal liberty we enjoy at home, we cannot help ex-
pressing our strong conviction that very much
remains to be done in the Netherlands to settle
the fundamental laws on a firm constitutional basis.

After the union of two nations, which though
originally of the same family, have been separated
for centuries by difference of language, of religion,
and of manners, too much caution cannot be
used by the executive Government, in acting
upon strict principles of impartiality. From all
the complaints we have heard, we fear we can-
not say that such is the rnee. The greater por-
tion of civil and military cam is; Mod by

Hollanders, and the interference of the Go-
vernment with the education pursued in the
Catholic Seminaries by forcing the candi-
dates for orders to resort to the Philosophical
College of Louvain, has arrayed all the Catho-
lics in the ranks of the Opposition. Catho-
licism in the Netherlands has united itself with
the cause of Reform, and bids fair, as in Ire-
land, to become the advocate of every improve-
ment that is needed, or supposed to be needed,
in Church and State.

It is the more vexatious to see a Government
like that of the Netherlands taking so little
pains to conciliate the public favour, because
no country possesses in a higher degree the
elements of national prosperity. A thriving
industry, a general diffusion of the comforts of
life, education extended nearly to its utmost
limit, are among the indications of a healthy,
physical, and moral condition of the people.
They are also symptoms, which it would be fatal
to a Government long to overlook, of a state of
civilization which will eventually compel the
public servants to regulate their conduct by the
growing desire which it manifests for every
social amelioration that may tend to bring the
body politic nearer and nearer to perfection.

Lttters have been received from Carthagena, of
the 4th September, stating that peace was signed
with Peru, and BOLIVA ia was in possession of
Guayaquil. The Elections had terminated, and
trade was recovering.

THE FUNDS.-(THIS DAY.)

CITY, TWELVE et CLOCX.

A vessel has arrived from Buenos Ayres at Liver-
pool, sailed 18th August; nothing has as yet trans-
pired of the information she brings.
The New Orleans Mercantile Advertiser says
that an important law case was pending before one
of the Courts of that City, involving the right and
duty of a Court of that County to deliver up a de-
serter from a foreign army within its territory. It
arose from a demand made by a Lieutenant of the
Spanish forces for the arrest and delivery of a de-
serter to his Officer, and is resisted on various
grounds. No decision of the case has as yet taken
place.

The Manchester Chronicle says the improved de-
mand for certain kinds of goods, which we noticed
in our last, has scarcely been maintained; in the pre-
sent week, however, sales have been effected to a
large amount, but at prices which must occasion a
considerable sacrifice to the manufacturers; we have
heard of one or two instances in which sales have
been made at a reduction of 5 per cent. from the
former prices. The demand for yarns continue to
be steady.

At a late Meeting of the Chamber of Commerce
at Belfast, some curious information respecting the
rapidly increasing trade and commerce of Belfast was
laid before the Gentlemen present, sheaving that be-
tween the years 1786 and 1828 the tonnage of ves-
sels had increased from 38,421 tons to 241,500 tons.
We have a great dearth of arrivals this morning,
consequently no information of importance has as
yet come to hand. We have an arrival from the
Havannah, but the time of her sailing is not ai yet
ascertained.

Consols opened this morning at the same price
they left off at yesterday, 91f for money, and 911
for the account* with little .or nothing doing as yet.
In the Foreign market Portuguese Bonds are not
so good as yesterday ; Brazil are also lower.

ENGLISH FUNDS.
Bank Stock, 2151 16fr 34- per Cent. 991
India Stock, 2221 223 i New 4 per Cent., 103:}
3 per Cent. Cons. 911 4 per Cent. 1826 1014 5
Do., for Account, 911 India Bonds, 64 65
Ditto Reduced, 90/ if Exchequer Bills, 73 74

FUNDS.
Greek, 191 201
Mexican, 20.
Peruvian, llf
Portuguese, 481
Prussian,
Russian, 104 f 5
Spanish, si 91
TWO O'CLOCK.

SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE.--(THIS DAY.)

FROM LLOYD'S.

DEAL, OCT. 23.—Wind W.N.W.—AII the out•
ward-bound have sailed. Arrived from London,the
Eagle, Smith, for Sincapore; St. Andrew, Gilmorti
for Trinidad; and Wellesley, —, for Jamaica.
PORTSMOUTH, OCT. 23.—Wind N. to N.B.'''.
Sailed the Lord Amherst, for Bengal; Bee Pitt,
Hebden, for the Mauritius; and several others out"
ward-bound.
PLYMOUTH, OCT. 22.—Wind
the Katharine Stewart Forbes, Canney, for New
South Wales.
TORBAY, OCT. 22 --Wind N.—Sailed the
Thomas King, Williamson, and Albinia, Purvis,
for Demerara, and the rest of the outward-bound.
:.TANDGATE CREEK, OCT. 23.--Arrived the
Delos, Christale, and Smyrna packet, Elsdon, from,
Smyrna.
MARGATE, OCT. 23.—Off Port, the William,
Woodward, from Quebec. The Union, Ball, for
Ramsgate, on going out of the harbour this morn'
ing, took the ground on the Nayland, but it is ex'
pected she will float with the tide without damage'
LIVERPOOL, OCT. 22..—Arrived the Dryad,
Power, from Pernambuco. Off Port, the Amos
Armstrong, from Miramichi.
CLYDE, OCT. 21.—Arrived the Thalestis, Roe'
buck, from Demerara.
CORK, OCT. 21.—Arrived the Mary Ann and
Louisa, —, from Miramichi.
DUBLIN, OCT. 21.—Arrived the Cottager, 114-
gers, from Cadiz.
ABERDEEN, OCT. 21.—Off Port, the Branch'
Patrick, from Riga.
DUNDEE, OCT. 21.—Arrived the Venus, Bettie,
and Lord Kinnaird, from Riga; Abeona, High,
from Liebau; and Ceres, Miller, from Petersborgib'
YARMOUTH, OCT. 21.—Arrived the John,'Liu-
dale, from St. Petersburgh.
13Eatnuams, OCT. 22.—The Jane, of and from
Drogheda to Bangor, was abandoned in the Bay last
night; she drifted over the Raven Sands, arid is nole
laying on the beach under Llanfair, apparently without
much damage.
GREENOCK, OCT. 20.--The William Gies,
M'Millan, arrived at Bengal the Ist of June, 101
Bombay ; experienced a violent gale at the Soo
Heads, which tore tip and carried away the windiest'
with all the apparatus; she lost two boom anchore
and cables.

The Royal Mail, Scott, from St. Helena, tOi
arrived in the Downs.

LAW INTELLIGENCE.-(THIS DAY.)

COURT OF KING'S BENCH.
THE KING V. CLAPHAM.

Mr. ATTORNEY-GENERAL (with whom was Mr. FoL°
LET) stated, that this was a prosecution by the Masters
and Wardens of the Apothecaries' Company, on the oth
of the late King, against the defendant for practising lie‘
fore he was 21 years of age. By that Act it was 0/
considered proper that persons without education and t'
knowledge of chemistry and pharmacy should make tiP
prescriptions, or have the care of sick persons. It ill
difficult to lay down any rule, but the Legislatufe
requires that persons should have attained the age °i
21, and have served five years to some apothecary, be,
fore they should practise themselves. They must obtale
a licence front the Company of Apothecaries, which they
cannot do before they havebintisisefdretqhueeenxtlaymdineacetiiovnedo,f
ot the
Examiners of the Company.
theTphaertEiexsalli.ninergsmioiare ingfrequentlyee eluded punishment nL
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been detected, had brought two or three offenders to Joe'
tire. The defendant to the present indictment bad Pro
duced to the Company of Apothecaries an affidavit, Puri
porting to be sworn to by him, that he was 21 years of •
age, and bad served five years' apprenticeship. Atten-
tion had been first drawn to the circumstance by a trial el
a Court in Westminster. He was first asked (on °lb?
how long he had been in practice, and having also told` e
age, he was obliged to confess that he had imposed on e•
Apothecaries' Company, and had obtained his certifiinte.
by representing that he was of age.
The Learned Counsel then proceeded to prove his age'
and called—
John Watson; Secretary to the Court 'of Examiner'.
The course of practice for persons to be admitted Apothe.
caries, is to require testimonials of moral character, ether
cation, and knowledge. They must leave their testime'
nials with the beadle, witness then examining, and reel'
hag on their correctness.
In April 1823, John Clapham, the defendant, addreased
his testimonials in the usual form.
(The documents were then put in and read.)
certain
It is also necessary for the applicant to
sign a
declaration, which Clapham did in witness's presence
hopnials, He was examined, upon the faith of those testinw
nials, and certificate was granted to him. Witness eo
stated the names of the persons who composed the CO°
of Examiners at that time.
Cross-examined by Mr. Baounnast—lt is usual Othrei;
quire a baptismal certificate, but it was not required in,
case ; saw the same person sign his name " John
"813'
ham, of Thorney," who had been examined. 110
Mr. Thomas J. Watson knew the defendant and
faller and mother. Had known the defendant since 10.
was a week old. He assists his father, who is an apotbedi
racy at Thorney. Did not now know his age, but kne
that he was the son of Mr. J. Smith, Clapbam. Mei
are both alive.
Cross-examined by Mr. KELLY—The defendant is eor
of a large family.
The baptismal register proved him to have been bir
tized August 22, 1809.
examined lVil mli
at
t trial of
Oliver, short-band
Cooperv. w
writer, haeka
ierdy: thein diesferes:
the Court of King's Bench. He swore then that he
a licentia'e of the Apothecaries' Company, and was Pl.'"
rising with his father at Thorney. pit Mr. BROUGHAM submitted that this evidence 50- es
y
admissible, as towards the end of the examinatirn
Lordship thought that it ought not to go furtherieure,
ought to be made the subject of an indictment. Ifrrtoheelf,
fore, the Court had suffered the examination topyst
the defendant might have said something to explain fi
he had before said.
Lord TENTERDEN said he thought upon that o' be
the witness had better not commit himself further tlieloaa
had dome ; the witness then read the whole of the el
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which related to this indictment. foe
Mr. BROUGHAM (with whom was Mr. xBll it
the defendant, stated that whatever he had.to 5°7041.
the Court must be at another stage of the prole ho..
He thought, however, that the Apothecaries' CntoPl
ing already gone so far against the young enan' isllf
would consider what they bad done as sufficient,ueb
when they went on an Act of Parliament which ha
std
a great hole in it, that by its clauses every chemist
druggist in the kingdom can mix up
Prescriptions Wt
out any licence from them as an apothecary. ~.600
Lord TENTERDEN—What you will have in rnit,b-
of
must of course he for the consideration of the CooeS2hir
course I cannot dictate to the Company. His Lciesde
then observed to the Jury, that no answer could be 0106,
to such evidence, and they would therefore have no `'
culty in returning their verdict.
They immediately found the defendant Guilty. ofMr.
Mr. BROUGHAM—I hope, my Lord, that the COlllO
will think they have gone far enough, andobhat thei
not consider it necessary to pray for judgment.
Lord TENTERDEN--I cannot dictate to them.

COURT OF COMMON PLEAS.
CUHMING AND OTHERS V. naitzr• s.&
The plaintiffs in this case are the assignees of 'A,
Brown and Cavenagh, late bankers at Bristol anti 0 4,1
and they brought the present action to recover a otsoi
about 1,700/., which had been handed over to the &Vnto
sok ruisol4
after the bankers had committed an act of b
The case is likely to occupy the entire day. The„
proceedings under the commission being subjected "I
defendant's Counsel to the strictest legal proof.

LAW NOTICES.

,51310 N PLEAS.
APPOINTED Ton. 3011:1,,,
Johnston and anolue-
Strong and •
Strong v Johnston
another 601.
I Hughes v Anderson,
Mager.
Field Marshal Viscount BERESFORD)
General of Ordnance, has arrived at Endalef .r.
county, on a visit to his brother, Vice-Admiral Sir -J
BKRIfSFUAD, Bat. M.P..—Doncaster Ga41(11.

COURT OF CO
LONDON SrECIAL JURIES .4
Birch v Alexander and I

another
Gardner v Thierens
Bottomley • Pugh
Parr v Garrard