The Sun.
London, England, 1829-12-17 00:00:00

Mrs. Bywater has paid into you on my account
since I last saw you. " Yours, &c.
" Dated Aug. 7, 1829." " G. E. DAVIES,"
The second letter was to this effect—date the
same as before :—" Mr. Hobler, Sir,,When
Messrs. Hankey shall have cashed there cheques, be
so good as to pay 2001. to Mrs. Ings, and for the
other you will account to me•"
The witness's examination was then resumed—l
went the next day with Mr. George Bywater to
present the cheques at Messrs. Hankey's. For fear
of accidents, I wished to have some person present
with me. 1 presented the two cheques, and I was
told, that under existing circumstances, the house
of Hankey and Co. could not think of paying Mr.
Davies's cheques. I left the letter addressed to
Mes-rs. Hankey with them.
One of the COMMISSIONERS—How can that be ?
Is not that the letter which Mr. Davies wrote to
Messrs. Hankey ?
Mr. Hobler—No, only a copy ; for before ha gave
me those two letters, he took a copy of them at the
table. At the same he gave me a sealed packet.
In giving it me he said, " I give you this packet as
my hand and deed." I still keep that packet. I
have not opened it. Ido not know what is in it.
I have never seen its contents.

The CHIEF COMMISSIONER was of opinion that
this sealed packet should be delivered up to the
Commissioners, in order to be inspected for the
purpose of the Commission. If the packet con=
tained papers of Mr. Davies, which were important
and ratio►.al, so much the better for Mr. Davies to
have the packet opened and inspected; if it con-
tained papers of a contrary description, AO much the
more necessary was it that the Commissioners and
Jurors should be made acquainted with them.
Mr. nobler acquiesced in the proposal, and then
proceeded in his evidence :—Mr. Davies, I repeat,
delivered the sealed packet to me, without stating
the nature of its contents. He said—" I deliver it
to you, Mr. Hobler, as my act and deed, and I de-
sire you to preserve it for my benefit." He then
said to me laughingly--" I do not wish to make a
porter of you, Mr. Hohler, but Dobson will early
it to the cab which is waiting for you." I after-
wards went to visit Mr. Davies, at Clapham. When
I fiat called upon him at Dr. Burrows's retreat
there, I was not admitted to see him. I afterwards
got admittance to him in consequence of an applica-
t►on which I made to the Lord Chancellor, and of a
letter which he wrote to me in reply to deliver to
Dr. Burrows. In consequence of that letter, I saw
Mr. Davies alone at Clapham. I have seen him
altogether about 15 times there. The last time I
saw him was, I think, but I am not certain, on Fri-
day last.
Sir C. WETHERELL here desired that for the sake
of regularity, the Lord Chancellor's letter, which
was dated " Walmer Castle, the 7th of September,"
should be put in and read.
After some discussion this was done; and as that
letter alluded to the previous letter w►itten by Mr.
Hobler, Sir Charles called for that letter also. It
could not he found at the moment; but it was
agreed that it should be produced and read in the
course of the proceedings to-morrow.
The witness then continued :

I saw Mr. Edward Davies on the 9th or 10th of
September, at Clapham, in consequence of the Lord
Chancellor's letter. 1 spoke to him about a con-
versation which he had had with Dr. Dil‘Michael,
who had visited him by order of the Lord Chancel-
lor. Ile said that Dr. M‘Michael had conversed
with him about Mr. Lawrence. They had spoken
of the manner in which Mr. Lawrence had got into
the College of Surgeons. Mr. Davies said to me
that he had told Dr. I%.l‘Michael that he supposed
that Mr. Lawrence had put his white hat into
mourning for the loss of his radical principles. He
said that Dr. M'Michael laughed at this idea much.
I talked to him also about his case He was not
more agitated than he was before. He was at a
table; he had got writing materials before hint, and
he had prepared some papers for me. He came to
me and whispered into my ear. I told him that I
was not deaf. He said, " There are no eyes in the
room, but ears .are not far off, and I know that they
are in the habit of listening to all I say." I smiled
at that; he said that I was not to treat what he
told me with contempt, as it was too true. I was
conversing with him two or three times. He asked
me if I would take refreshment, I said I would.
Refreshment was brought in, and some red and
white wine : he was in good spirits, and took a glass
of wine. The room looked upon a grass-plot, and
there were several persons passing on it ; he said
" Look at these poor fellows, they are going to play
at cricket." That was the fact ; for I saw them
with the bat, wickets, &c. I went through the par-
ticulars of his case with him ; he was prolix, but not
incoherent in what he said. There was nothing
irrational in his manner or words that day, always
making due allowance for his situation. I mean
thereby that the idea of being in such a place is cal-
culated to produce irritation. His answer to my
questions were perfectly rational. I always under-
stood him, and he understood me. In a word, we
always understood one another. The information
he gave me, and the advice lie offered upon it, were
consistent. I never took instructions from any per-
son who knew more of his own case than Mr. Da-
vies appeared to know of his. At the next time I
saw him, I went into some details of his case. At
that time I think, but am not sure, that Mr. Pollard
was present. I went through a great many parti-
culars with him, respecting the points in Sir G.
Tuthill's report. I told him that he was accused
of having fired off a pistol in a room where his mo-
ther was, and that he was supposed to have fired it
at his mother. The pistol, lie said, was one that he
had bought of Belcher, and he was showing it to
his mother. He said, that whilst he was doing so,
it had gone off—that at that time Mr. Lowe, his
clerk, came in—that his mother was not alarmed,
but that his clerk was, from smelling powder.—
He said that he had then gone to the table, and put
a pen in to show Mr. Lowe that it was not then
loaded. He also told Lowe that the shot had gone
on the floor, having first struck the table foot. He
said that about a fortnight afterwards, as he Was
walking in his garden at Crouch-hill, his mother asked
him whether lie intended to shoot her on that day ?
That he was so struck with horror, that he put his
hand on her shoulder and said—" Are you not my
mother ?—how can you suppose so ?" 1 then asked
him about the fire-arms which he kept. He told me
that he had bought the pistol of Belcher for 21. or
31.; and he said that his reason for purchasing it was,
that his man Williams had been stopped on the road
between Crouch-hill and London. He told me that
the fowls and rabbits were a present from Belcher,
and that he had never seen them, except at Belcher's.
On that occasion lie was as perfectly calm arid col-
lected as a man need to be. He appeared to me to
be of sound mind, and capable of conducting his
own affairs. I saw him about fifteen times at Clap-
ham. Our conversations were on business entirely.
His demeanour was at all times the same; indeed,
he became more cool and collected as the interviews
advanced. At the first approach of Mr. Davies
there is an appearance about him which might strike
you ; hut as he converses with you it goes off. At
present I think him decidedly of sound mind. The
last time I saw him no man could be more cool and
capable of conducting himself rationally. The hurry
of his manner, which I ascribed to his situation,
has subsided, and entirely gone down, in the last
month.
The witness was not re-examined by Sir C.
WETHERELL.
By the ComatisstostEns—He has whispered to
me since the explanation which we had cn that
point. He gave me a reason for his doing so. He
said that since I had been to see him, a friend had
called upon him; that his friend, in consequence of
what he had said, had left the door a little a-jar;
that after talking with him for some time, his friend
had silently approached the door; that he had then
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