The Sun.
London, England, 1820-10-09 00:00:00

By the DuLe of Cr,m;ENcw..

Q. Did you join the ship as a midshipman, capable of do-,
ing immediate duty and going on tine nfuarter deck, or as a
youngster ?—A. I understood I was tone a midshipman when
1 went on hoard with Sir J. Beresford• . .
Did you go as a positive midshipman, and not as a young-
'ster ?-1 was not much of a youngster; I did not go on the
quarter-dick immediately.
'From the time you went on hoard the Po ;ctsers were you,
rated or not .?-4 was not. rated then:, hut I was when f left.
Are you positively clear that you left the service front no
other reason than your own request ?—Most.certainly.
By the ATTORNEY-GENERAL—Was the persons called Fran-
cisco,whom you: have mentioned, servant 'to Lieutenant
H o‘vn arn ?,-1 have no authority but the name of Franeisceto
guide. me.
Did you know any other servant of that *dam
The witness having been ordered to withdraw,

Mr. Siccitto ma; then tailed it; and examined bi
Mr. .13goticatAx.
•
Q. What is your name ?—A. John Jacob
Siceard.
INfien did you first enter the service of • the Princess of
Araks, ImW ttIC Queen rkvrioty-Une years next February.
Yon are foreigner ?-1 am, but, naturalized an Englishman.
Front what Country ?-Front Anspaeh,.
'Wei*: you in any oilier piace before you entered her Ma-
jesty's service ?.,--Yes, 1 was ten years at the Marquess of
Stafford's.:
lii what capacity ?—As. cook.
Did you also enter her itoyal Highness's service as cook
—I did.
By whom were you plSced With her ?=-13y his present Ma-
jesty's circlet s, through Ml'. P?eckwitlit now dead, silo recutp',
mended me.

Were you soon after promo:ed to another situation
the month of October was promoted to the
tuatitm of :Ilaitre
Ihd yOu rentaiii tit-the end ittlhat capacity ?—Yes.
. When did you go abroad with her Royal Highness
AuguA, 1814, we left England.
Did yon accompany
.her -Majesty to Brunswrclr?-'-Yes•
• From thence to Italy ?-=Yes, through Switzerland to Italy.
' Do you recollect that her Majesty had any occasion tuna
courier at Milan?-1
Did Sir.Willitou Gail order, you to hire a courier?—He did.
• Did he 'Mention a person who had been recommended by
Marpris.Ghristellil—He.dril. •
Doi you hire that person ?--,••I
Was that Bergami ?---Yes, it was.
Had you any conversation with •her Royal
.Highness with
respect to hiring Rergami I—No.
Do you recollect 'whether she dismissed the other courier at
that time I—No.
Did site dismiss him sonrthfter ?—Yes ; soon after.
Do yon recollect the House at which her itoyal Highness
stepped on her arrival at Naples I—,l
Was there sittlicient accommodation in that house 1—No;
it was not convenient.
.Were•other ariangenients made the day after ?—Yes.
'AVliery did liergatoi ste.„ep?—ln the room where Charles
Hertford slept, over the rOOlll of Lady Elizaheth Forbes.
How long did he continue to sleep there?-1 believe one
alight or two only.
Did he then remove into another room ?—He
Who appointed it to I—l did.
11 hat room was it I—.l small cahinet near the garden. •
Did you make that arrangement in consequence of any or-
ders front her Royal Highness I—No., •
Had you any cunnounicatitin ‘‘ith her Royal Highness on
the subject ?Niine. •
With any other. person I—With Hieronymus._
WI h nit motive had you for makiog the alteration ?..-My
principal reason was that in the room where I placed Bergami,
there was a back door going lulu the garden ; I thought it was
not safe, and that it was right a male servant should sleep
there.

,During the period of tWenty-one years that you have lived
in her service, have you observed the manners of her Majesty
towards her serimuts I—Yes, many. times.
You have seen the manlier in which her Majesty treated
and spoke to her servants ?—Yes. •
Did she ever converse with yourself?—Many times.
What was her manner of treating sealants I—Uncommon
• 4
kind, almost to a fault.
Was this manner general to all her servants, or confined
to one individual aniortgoaliens ?—lt was general to all. -
• Had you eeer any occasion to walk with or near her Royal
Highness ?—Many a time, by her command.
. Did you 'do so in the garden you mentioned ?—I walked
with her Royal Highness iu the pleasure-grounds at Black-
beta() many a time.
Did her Royal Highness then ever talk to you ?—Very con 7
descendingly. ,
' On any occasion did her Royal Highness ever take your
arm?—On steps, orrising•grounil, and sometLaes in the way
of conversation, her ltoyal Higiniess would put her hand on
my suns and say," (1,50. von understand what I mean ?" This
lists happened mapitinies.
How long did }lp.6 tints walk with her Royal Highness ?
Sometimes half an hour, and sometimes more.
Do you recollect walking in the same way in the garden at
Naples
Do you recollect a masked ball at Naples ?—I do.
Given by her'llosal Highness I—Yes.
To tbe C.:osirt of Naples t—Ycs; I had the management of
that masquerade, and . was assisted by Mr,reirsel:ii, whit) is
.well known to Loi'd Llandatr. „. :
Did you also appear:in any dr6s'?Yes.• •
Did any other servants ?—Yes, Hieeotlyiens and I.
How were you dressed ?—As Turks:- .
Do you recollect her RoyahHigintesl'attending herself
.•,

In one or more dresses ?—I recollect two dresses.
Do yon recollect the nature of those dresses?—First, a
coantry dress, and ,t he oilier ToiLish, if I am right.
You are nolorgereiii lier.Slaji..sty's service ?—No ; I receive
a pension from lie,r.aS Jori„,, As she,piea,es to give it me. •
When did you' it her Anjesty's service ?—Withiu the last
three or four ni ' 14.. --- t'!• - - , , • _
tole
CrOE.S- samiApcl by the Somerton-GENERAL.
1,4 t is t lie. a4otitrt, of` your ' petiSiont.?2-AV -present it is
4001. a year. -
...- • ,
Did yon say the, iinsion was during her Majesty's plea-.
sure ?—Yes. , . •. . .
You say you quitted. her Majesty's:service some time ago.
Die) you quit her at Naples.?---No, her Majeity,left me.
Where (lid you•gO-froni-Naplis?—l Went with the baggage
and horses to Genoa.
Did you remain at 'Genoa until her ,Majesty•arrived ?7—No.
Where did you go froth Genoa ?—lannediately to England.
Where did youjuinliereMlijeity hgain ?—At Leghorn.
Was that the only time you saw.:- her after you quitted her
Majesty at Naples ?--7I drl.initore„,her Royal Highness again
till I went with the•trees of his late:Majeily's death.
Then the ottservatiotti 'Oil -Made on herßoyel Highness's
conduct to Berganii, was only during the time you was at her
Royal Highness's residence at Naples?—Only then.
Was it, your business to arrange the apartments for diffe-
rent individuals idthe suite ?-,lt leas my business.
Do you remember stopping,4oag country house of Murat,
on the night previous to your arrio(..at Naples?—Yes. ~
I ask whether on that night 111, iLisii-'-M'es` list in did not sleep
ill the apartments of her Royal HOrtess ?—That I cannot
tell, because I went off immediately in one of the King of
Naples's carriages to Naples to prepOreat. Majesty's house.
Before you left Murat's country Ifeuse,, had you made•ar-
rangements fir the sleeping apartmints of the suite ?-Not
. in that house; they were prepared by au Officer of the Pal'ace.
Then you .do not know where young Austin slept that:
night ?—No.
With respect. to' th•e'apartment occupied by Bergami,-had it
not a direct communication with the sleeping apartment occu-
pied by her Royal Highness?—Nut exactly so.
Was there it small' cabinet contiguous to the apartment oc-,•
cupied by Bergami ?:---There was. •
Was there a passage which led from his room
.to that'ef the'
Princess ?--Yes.
Was there a publicalassage between the apartments of Bet-
garni and the Princess ?=-Yes.
Was there a,sruall passagesleading the whole length of-the
public passage ?—.-,,Thei e was.
Was thlei at the end of that passage a small cabinet?—
Not, that I recollect. e . • • -e ' ,
Was it so constructed, that part of the-passage might be
inclosed trauma a small cabinet 1-,-I cannot answer to that.
Was there a dour, opening to the 00111 of Bergami in the
small passage?—There was. - - •' • .-. •
Was there another door in the small passage, opening to
the large passage?-1 believe there was ~
Did the door opening in the small passage, lead tO that part
occupied by hey Royal Highness?---aou are asking use ques-
thins from a plan I cannot know any. thing about. 1 have no
plan. (Here a Irlan was shown to the witness.)
Mr. BROUGHAM objected to the plan.
The Sot.tclTort-Gr;NERAL, -addressing the House, said, I
merely show the plan that the witness may understand my
questions and,l his answers.
Mr. BROUGHAM said it was a.‘ serious matte: to speak from
a plan which had not been nurtually understood. There 4,„,
. a door which his Learned Friend wanted to find, but he could
not find it in the recollection of the witness..
Thewitness then stated that the plan wanted a door.
SoLict•rott-UENEttut, to the witness: ^N t Isere not a soar-
' munivation along the passage through the door you have de-
scribed with the lied-voota of the Princess ?—Yes.
Was there ;mother room connected with the public passage ?
-Y
—es. • , . ...., .
Did any-body sleep there?—Not that I know of.
•' The rooms in which Hieronymus, Dr. Holland, and 117 m.
Austin slept., all masionanicated with the d'uoe which led into
the public passage,?—Yes. .
Then there was no other person slept sit the line of com-
municatiou you leave pointed out ?—I understand a'servant
slept in a room littween the apartments of tier majesty and
lii.,gami, when Bergami was ill, but I do not know it of nay
own knowledge.
4 •,-Then, with that ;exception, there was Dotting to-interrupt
lie...communication from one apartment to the other?-1 do
•-'nut recollect there was.

At what time at the day did you xrrirc at ape ? was
In the mot rting• •
When din her It.syal Highness arrive ?=ln the afternoon.
• What aeat her was it ?--Yery had; it i?ioed. •
WhO were the servants who breakfasted together at Naples
Ali the upper servants—Berganti., Dumont, Hierone,,%nua,
Lady Elizabeth Forbes's servant, and myself.

.
Will you, andrrtAke" to : S i'e ii a r II ergat i 1 i : hieakfasted at•Nii-
pies in the 1)(1:11 wit li the servants regularly—PliFtiy: j)i,t
he was fond of • iileat in a morning, and he '.4oluetTibes Win,t
to the cotfee-hooi.e, fur he did not like te:1; .. .. , '..
- . . .

You say he did not take bteaktast akays wit you ?--
Smart inics lte. bad it later,.and niadea !meal. . •
When you were talking about the ball at Naples, you (lid
not say aliether pin closed the hall with your Turhish dress—
bad you one or two dresses ?—I had hot one dress.

How many dresses had her Ituykti Highness ?
know Of snore than iwo dresses. _

-4 do not

the dress ,of the 'Turkish peasant the second dress wura
by her Royal Ili hne,s ?—I think it was.. • .
Did several pei sow; call on her Royal. Highness the morn-
ing afterhe'r arrival at Naples ?-I)iirilig. several days persons
with children, and others, ilaid Gtr 11,ijesty visits. w
Were :they received by, her Royal Elighness,or by Be: ganii ?
I caninit recolh:c,.

_ _ ....... ;
Do you recollect going in quest of, her Royal
consecusmice of persons waiting for her appearance ?—I can-
not charge my rueniony. It might have been so .in this cotintry.
But jon have nu recollection of the circumstance happen-
ing on the first day utter your arrival at Naples ?-In, I
have not. •

On the second ?—No, I cannot recollect any thing of that
sort at Naples. it might have happened at Illitekhjatli.
What Was liergami's duty wheitite got to Naples was
obliged to attend as Page, waiting'in the drawing-room. :
Did he share the duty with Mei:003'1110s ?,-Yes.
Was Hieronymus" also courier ?—Yes, On the road ; but
when he came to Naples he acted as page.
You tall; ()flier Royal'Hiothness takingyonr arm, was it in'
i
eonsequence of impediments to her steps is walking ?—Yes.
You do not mean to .ay there was any thing further than
that?—Nu; God forbid t—(A laugh!) • ;
As far as you,eati -remember, is this plan (shelving hint the
plan of the rooms at Naples) cOtrect with the exception of
there being a door wanting, which you mentioned cahoot
recollect,
You say you hare a pension hare my salary continued;
I had 3001. per annum. lit Italy her Majes:y gave ;pc 1001.
more for acting in Mr. rlooner's .atuatiou.
Wben was the 1001. added ?—Abotit four years ago.
Have yon been to the Continent to bring- over witnesses to
this country ?-L-No : I bad a letter front her.. Majesty to con-
vey:to CaulsrOhe.
Did you bring any witnesses to this country ?—No. - .
'Had you known liergatui a; all before- you saw him at Mi-
lan
You went, out, you say. for the purpose of communicating

the death of the king ?LYes. .
-Where did you find her Royal Highness ?-"I .foulA her
Majesty at Leghorn.
Mr. Ildou GHA NI —ln the passage you mentioned, is there a
water closet near the 'room of her Itoyal Highness?—Yes,

there is a &ace of that sort.,
To whom did. you ear' the letter at Carlsruhe ?—To the
Chamberlain of the Grand Duke.

Examined by the LORI'S.

Lord LLENBOROUGH.—Q. When Bergami was taken
into her Royal Highness's service, did you make any inquiry
as to his character ?—A. None. He was introduced by a Mar-
quess, whose recommendation was thought sufficient.
Did yon observe that his behaviour was superior to that of
most couriers was, in my opinion. He hely:Ned very
properly. He was• nut quite so chatty as Italians generally
are ; and I believe he behaved very properly.
Was his not being so chatty the only reason you had flit
thinking him superior to most couriers, ur was his behaviour
gentlemanly?—His behaviour was not particularly gentle-
manly I—He behaved well; hut I am not in the habit of
knowing couriers.
Did you consider him too much of a gentleman to act as a
courier ?-1-le never shaved himself.' He never refused to du
any thing he was told to do.—(A laugh.)
Did you consider his manners more those of a gentleman.
than that of a courier ?—They might be rather the manners
of a gentleman of the lower sort.
%%There did William Austin sleep during the journey to Na-
ples I—ln her Royal Highness's room. As far as I recollect '
he- slept there on the way to Naples, hut at Naples I believe
an-alteration ti ok place.
• The wittiest was then examined by Lords DONOUGHMOttE
and CATIICART• Witness stated, that none of Bergatiii!s
family were in the service of the Queen when he went, to Na-
ples. Witness-hired Bergaini as valet de chambie and rouriet,
and left him in that capacity. The apartments of the -Queen,
while at Naples, were near those of witness. a large passage
or corridor separated t help.
'To a -question from Lord GnAs-ritam, witness stated that
William Austin had usually slept in the room of the Queen
previous to her goiiig to Naples. Sown after their arrival
there her 'Majesty said he was too old, and must have a sepa-
rate apartment. . .
Earl of DARLINGTON—Did yon ever see any improper
familiarity- on the part of the,..Queen towards -Birrgarni ?
Never, never: I ain positive I never did.
Witness further stated that he was the bearer of the dis•
patch to her Majesty announcing the death of
.our late So:-
tereign. He was sentity- bit. Majesty's legal advisers; no
dispatch, announcing the event, was scut by Ministers. ..
While
.the Queen resided at Naples did she ever breakfast
alone with•Sergamil—Never, never.
If she had dune so would you have known it ?—I will nog
say ,positively that it never • did _happen, but -I .beliere it
never did.
To questions from the Lords Kingston, Enniskillen, aunt
Lauderdale, witness stated,,, that he recollected 11-. e. Princess
going to the Opera at Naples on the second night of her ar-
rival, but did not know at what thne she retorned.—Never.
saw Bergami until he was recommended to him by the Mass,,•
quest Gizilieghri. Did not 'know whether he seas fi married
man at the time or not. Witness bad leave of her Majesty-
to return to England, but was ordered to hold himself in rea:
diness to join'her. •
The Earl of HAttKowav asked a number •,of unimportant
ro
questions respecting the pOsition of the oms.at Naples.
Mr. litto-uGuAm' objected to one question, which assumed a
fact not stated by the witness. The.question was not presied.;
The Marquis of BUCKINGHAM and Lord tnurnottixl next
examined the witness;, who stated, that a person,:to go from
the Queen's room,-while at Naples, to that of Bergaini, must
pass the doors of the rooms of Dr. Holland and -either. per-
sons. That porganii's manners were far superior to those of -
the same class of servants.
Mr. BaouGHAst wished the lord Chancellor to ask witness
if there were any doors in the public passage. leading from the ,
room of the Princess and that of Bergami?7—Yes, there were
two. •
The examination Of this witness was protracted until a
quarter past tow o'clock, when the House adjourned.
[For the Proceedings of This Day, see the fol.,- .
. , . lowing Page.] .•
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From the LONDON G AZETT

E of Oct. 7.

Ttiis Gazette notifies his" najcsty's permission to. Sir D.
Milne to accept and wear tie insignia of the Order of Si.
Januarius,
.and the Royal Military order of William of the.
;Netherlands.

Fear-Oct, Oct. 6, 1820.
Royal Regiment of 'Horse Guards—Dion-oil P. Crosby,
Gent. to he Cornet, by purchase, vice Da.thwood, profootrd.
I Ith Regiment of Light Dragoons—Brevet Lieut.-Colonel
MichavhChildcrs to be Lieutenant-Colottel,.by purchase, rice
Diggens,,,ello retires.
Itesiment of Foot—Lieutenant Oliver St. George to
be Caplanf, hyjurchase, vice Maxwell, who retires,
nasYET.—Captain Henry Erskine Somerville (second in
command of the Recruiting Service of the East India Cour-
patty, at the Depot at Chatham), to have the local rank of
Major as long as he may continue to du duty with the Dcput.

• '
BANKRUPTS.
T. Martin, Bristol, lintn-draper, to surrender, Oct: 134, 11.* '
and Nov. 144, at ten, at Guildhall, Loudon. Atter')sf.
o:baldeston,iondon-street, lettchurch-street.
T; H. Smith, Chaonery-laue, tailor, Oct. 14, 28, and Noe. , •
18, at ten, at Guilahall. Atturs.ey, Mr. Carter, Lord Mayor's •
Court Office, Royal I.....xchance. •
R. Perkins, Lctaingteu, Southampton, grocer, Ort. 14, 29,
and Noe; Is, at ten, at Guildhall, London. Attorney, Mr,
Young, Pnland-street.
D. Nloi•ley„ Coelispur-street, et, St. Martin-in-the-fields, boot-
maker,-Oct. 44, 18; and Nov. 18, at 1% lee, at Guildhall. At- •
tuivey, Mr..S4rcl, Surrey-street, Strand.
W. Small, jun. Lower East-Smithneld, butcher, Oct. 14,
2A, and Nov. 18, at ten, at Guildhall. Attorney, Mr. Stuts,e,
Fenchurch.-street.' •

Yester44y.Diviue Service was performed at the
King's Palace, in Pall-mall, by the Rev. Di,
STANIER CLARK X.

HOUSE OF ,LORDS-THIS DAY

THE QUEEN.

Dr. llEsny iioLLAND was immediately sworn,
and examined by Mr. WILLIAms, in nearly the
following terms :

you leave England as Physician to her
•}lc.ill.l-14htless the Princess of Wales is 1814?
I did.

Eiti you proceed to Naples with her Roya
Eighnesn ?-21

• Did you remain there the whole period of her
relidence at Naples ?-1 did.
Vv 'hat description of_persons were in general
received by her?—,With very few-exceptions she
was Nisited by. all the principal Italian Nobility,
and also by ail the English who were ,travelling
there
Where did you go after you left Naples ?—To
Genoa.

Were you ever on board the Clorinde frigate
—I e .

What description of visitors did her Royal
1-Lghness receive at Genoa ?—Both the English
and others.

Did you observe at that period that her Royal
E:rghte6s ever avoided the English did not.
The LORD CHANCELLOR here observed, in re-
-I.,retle to the lowness of Dr. Holland's voice,
z!)at it was the duty of every witness who came
there to endeavour to make himself distinctly
hard. He therefore would respectfully state to
Dr. Holland that it was necessary to raise his
voice, for even the tones of the human voice were
often characteristic of 'evidence.

Examination resumed.—Q. What was the si-
tu,.ltion of her Royal Highness's house at Gentm?
p.. It was about half a mile from the town.

Did you know a person of the name of Ber
. 13?.rrit ?—I did.

Did he ever dine with her Royal Highness dur-
i:lF her stay at Genoa ?—He never did.
What was her Royal Highness's conduct to-
wards Berganft —That of a mistress to a servant.
What was the behaviour of Berganii to her
Royal Highness ?—I never saw it otherwise than
'cu.:presuming and respectful.

At what place did you quit her Royal High-
ness's. household ?—At Venice.
Had you any communication on the subject of
your quitting it before ?—I hid, at Milan.
When you left her ;loyal Highness's suite at
Venice, is it to be understood that you quitted it
ttntirely, or only to return to it ?—lt was under-
stood I should return, for I left some articles in
her Royal Highness's house.
What was the occasion of your leaving it then
and coming home to England ?,---When at Milan
ber Royal Highness was pleased to observe, that
if I wished I might make a tour to Switzerland ;
•but I requested her permission to go to England
on my own affairs, to which her Royal Highness
consented.
Po you recollect the names of any of the No-
bility who visited her Royal Highness while she
resided at Genoa ?—There, was Lord William
.2entinck, with others, and generally all those
who were attached to the Army.
cross-examined by the SOUCITOR-GENERAL.
While you resided at Naples, do you remem-
ber Bergami meeting with an accident ?—I do.
►%'as he on that occasion confined to his bed ?
Ile *as.

Do you remember how long ?—lt was about
three or four days.
Do you remember who waited on Bergami
he was ill ?—Yes, it was Majocci.
Did nat Majocci during that time sleep in the
Cabinet adjoining Bergami's room ?—I do not

Was there not a sofa in that Cabinet where
lviejocci slept ?—I do not know.
You hare stated that the house of her Royal
IfiEliness near Genoa was in the suburbs, was
ti-,:fre not a garden to it within a court ?—There

was a small garden in front, and a wood behind.
Were you in the habit of dining every day
with her Royal Highness at Genoa ?—At Genoa
always, but not always at Naples.
Were you ever at a masquerade at the Theatre
4a£ San Carlos, in Naples, Alen her Royal High-
nemwas present there ?—I was.
Who accompanied her to it ?—I did not know
r,anie of any person till the following morning.
Did you remain till the entertainment was at an
?—I staid but an hour..

Am I to understand, then, that you do not
.koc.,.vv who went with her Royal Highness ?—Yes ;
do not know.

Have you ever seen any thing improper in the
canduct of her Royal Highness towards Bergami ;
or izave you ever-stated to any one that you made
such an observation ?—I never observed any kn_
yrcpriety in her Royal Highness.
i-ray, are you acquainted with a Minister at
YOrk am.

Having now remioried you of your acquaint-
aly.'.e with a Minister at York, will you depose,
the you never staNd, you disapproved of the
cc ;duct of her Royal Highness to Bergami ?
I tire.ver said that the conduct of her Royal High-
LeTS was not correct.

I 'ask you, Dr. Holland, if you never made an
olv.vvation to any one whatever with respect to
tho.i:onduct of her Royal Highness am
you, Dr. Holland, swear that ?—I am so
24;stied of the negative in my own mind, that I
cal" venture to swear it.
You have published a book of travels, I be-
Lett;; and I wish now to ask you, if at any time,
Zit-ring that composition, you found occasion to
alter your opinion of her Royal highness?
Mr. B3OUGELAM here objected to the question,
;Mich was over-ruled by tbHouse.

Rave you always entertained the same opinion
id, the conduct of her Royal Highness ?—I feel it
imi,tEzibie to describe the tuctuations of opinion

Excuses were trade for the absence of Lords
Sons and PONSONRY, but the Duke of YORK
vas so far recovered as to be able to attend. At
twenty minutes past tea the Counsel were called
in, -iv hen

in my mind, but I remember no change in my
opinion of her Royal Highness.
Did you ever say to any one individual that the
conduct of her Royal Highness wai such that no
person who regarded their character could con-
tinue in her service ?--I am satisfied that I did
not.

Did the course of your duty lead you to be
much about the person of her Royal Highness ?
Very little.
You was engaged then principally, while in
the service of her Royal Highness, in your own
pursuits and studies I—When they did not inter-
fere with my professional duties, I was generally
so engaged.
You have said you did not dine with her Royal
Highness while- at Naples ?—Not always at
Naples, but constantly at Genoa.
Was it not at dinner time that you had the
principal opportunities of observing her Royal
Highness ?--It was.
It appears that Bergami waited at table at
Naples, did he continue in the same capacity at
Genoa ?—lie waited at both.
How long were you at Milan before you ar-
rived in Naples 1---About a fortnight.
Do you re:nernber, when you was at Genoa,
any persons of Bergami's family joining her Royal
Highness's suite do.
Do you recollect the name of Faustina as one
of those who joined you ?—I am not aware of
that.

Did you know a person of the name of Marti-
ni did not.
Did you know a little child called by the
name of Victoriue ?—There was a child that
came there, but I do not know its name.
Was there a female of any kind came there
with the child ?—Tliere was a female who was
understood to be the mother of Bergami, I re-
collect no other.
Do you remember the circumstance of Louis
Bergami's entering the service of the Princess ?
—I do, but I do not know in what capacity he
s.

Did Louis Bergami wait at table I—He did.
Did he wear a livery I—He did.
When was it that Louis Bergami entered the
Princess's service; was it at the beginning or end
of the time you mention I—Towards the be-
ginning.
How long did Lady Charlotte Campbell con-
tinue at Milan I—Till within three or four days
before her Royal Highness left.
Madame Oldi came into the service of her
Royal Highness when Lady Charlotte Campbell
had quitted it I—She
Did you travel in the same carriage with her
Royal Highness from Milan to Venice I—No.
When Madame Oldi came into the service of
the Princess, did you know that she-was Bergami's
sister?-1 did not know it then, nor while I re-
mained in her Royal Highness's service.
How long was the period of her joining you
before you left her Royal Highness's service ?
It was about eight days.
When you were at Venice, where did she
live ?—At the Grand Hotel there.
How long did her Royal Highness remain at
the Grand Hotel ?—I rather think she staid only
one night.
Was Mr. William Burrell of your party at that
time ?—He was.
Did you go with her Royal Highness to her
awn house, or did you continue to reside in the
Hotel you have spoken of ?—I remained at the
Hotel:
Did you dine with her Royal Highness every
day during yourstay at Venice ?—Yes, every day.
Did her Royal Highness quit Venice before
you I—l went first.
Did you afterwards rejoin her Royal High-
ness I—No.
Do you know whether Madame Oldi could
speak French I—l always conversed in Italian
with her, but that was only a very few times.
Was the house of her Royal Highness at Ge-
noa in a conspicuous situation I—lt was.
Was it so situated as to be convenient to re-
ceive visitors from Genoa I—lt was.

How long have you been in England since
you quilted the service of her Royal Highness ?
I have been here at four different times, generally
for short periods, so that my absence never was
long.

have you ever been examined with respect to
the conduct of her RoyalTighness by any one,
or has any one asked you what you thought re-
specting it ?—Nev'.e
Examined by the PEERS.
Q. During the whole time you have been
abroad with the Queen, and in all the places
you have been with her, did you ever observe
any thing improper or indecent in her conduct?
A. I did not.
Dr. Holland is understood to have said that
he had.never been examined before on the sub-
ject; and it is now wished to be ascertained if

he has ever been applied to by any one for in
formation with respect to her Majesty's conduc
while he continued in her suite ?—I never have.

Did you attend Bergami during his illness —al
Naples ?—I did.

How did you go into his room ?—I entered by
a passage which was connected at right angles
with my own room.
Then it is to be understood that there was no
occasion for passing through the Cabinet, next
Bergami's room ?—No.
Do you recollect the dress in which Bergami
waited at her Royal Highness's table at Naples ?
—I do not.
Do you recollect a female arriving at Genoa
much about the same time of the arrival of Ber-
gamPs mother and child ?-4 do not recollect it
now, but it might have been so.
Did you know the room in which the Queen
slept at Genoa ?—Yes.
What was the- disposition of the adjoining
rooms ?---Nly, room was adjacent, then Hierony-
mus's, and then Austin's. There was also a pas-
sage from the great corridor -which ended at the
dining-room.
It was stated by a former witness that on the