The Sun.
London, England, 1816-06-07 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Sir S. GRAIJAM presented a Petition trom. Mary-
Te-bot►c, signed by 1000 persons, composed of
the vestry and proprietors of. land, against the
New Street, I ili; and Atr. Aleo.istt presented
Petitions from St. Anne's and St. James's parishes
against the same. " .

Petitions front persons. in the Leather Trade
were presented front several places in the country.

METROPOLIS PAVING

Mr. M. A. TAYLOR said, that nothing new was
contemplated in this Bill, of which the object was
to remedy the evils complained of within the bills
of mortality, but not to meddle with turnpike
roads. The intention was to. give additional
powers, to prevent the evils affecting the pave-
ments.from the operation of the water-works and
gas-light companies, to the parishes the
means of augmenting fools, to pi event public
tn-
eonveniencies, and to make it evident to all, who.
are the, surveyors or other officers. He moved the
second reading of" the Bill, which was ,carried,
and the Bill ordered to be committed to-morrow.

A Bill for regulating he Duties and Rewards of
Coroners was brought in, read a first time, and
()Meted io be read a second time to-morrow.

The Strand4iridk.e. Amendment Bill Ava 3 read a
third time.

The American Convention Bill vvas brought
tip by Air. F., Itot?sinson, relid first tune, uu or-
dered to be read second time to-morrow.

Sift 'f. B. THONIPSON.

CALORAYT presented a Petition from Eke-
les of Ro-CheSter respecting the acceptance of the
place iif Tretf,surer of Greenwich Hospital by one
of their Representatives, Sir T. 13. Thompson.
They cons-idered it as an office of profit under the
Crown,' which rendered their Member's seat void ;
and they prayed for a fteli writ for that- City.
• Mr. CALCRAFT moved'that the Petition. should
lie on the table, intending to move the considera-
tion of it on Wednesday.. • .
Lord CASTLYtHEAOH'Sitidi be lied no objection
to its lyieg on the table._
Mr. CALCRAVT observed, that the petitioners
now prayed for a 'decision, which had been, on a
former occasiotri ayoicled by the previous ques-
tion..

Tuattav remarked,_ that the. Noble Lord
seemed as
:yet to trove voted, in the dark. The
question, as to the nature of the mppointinent was
of some importance ; 'lint the louse had passed
it bi. Was this office to be coniidered merely as
a professional, riiilitary',,,Or naval appointment
Hon. Member alluded to sat :in the House
without any decision haviin; beep, made on his
partietility cosy. shotdd Egg a thstinct coo-
tion to decide the question. "
The ,Petition was ordered' to lie on the table,
and•

Mr. dALCRIFT gave notice, that on Wednesday
he w 1 nld Wive for a new writ' for Rochester, in
consegaeilte, of the 'acceptance of the office now
141 by sir T.ll. Thompson.

BAADADo.s.
mr: rio"LMEtt begged to he informed by the
Noble-Lard Upon the bench below, whether Go'-
wernment were in possession oNkny authentic
documents on the subject of an,awful event stated
to have happened in the 14land of Harbadoes, in
WhiFtWit ViaS 'epotted, the rivet of a great num-
b& cat parsons were lost, and property to e-great
ex tent tl,estroyrl.
Lord CASTLEREAGH answered, that Govern-
erigit ' had not yet received the details of the me-
lestehttly event alluded to.

Alp,,PALstatt .gave, notice, that on Thursday,
the 13th,. he should submit to the consideration of
the Louse a in<►tion on the .s;kbject of that event:

FORGE'D BANK-OTES,

General ToottN-ros: *moved...l6r a Select Com-
mittee to inquire jut() he faltqcation and
,circula-
tion of forged Bank-notes.
Mr. MANNING could see 'no' "reason 'will; the
13auk should pay forged notes How would. any
roposjtiou of Ow nature be cgri,idered by any
cot mereidil house ? To pake the L;nik pay these
noti:!s'ivoUid he' encouraging forget y. The Rank
did all th,ey could to protect the publicvand there
appeated no Parliamentary ground forshe motion.
General TnoaNTotl hoped some additional pre-
Cautious would be adopted, and that improvements
would take place in the Bank-notes. The ma.
Aion was negatived.
THE mAunrrws. •-

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Mr. BROUGHAM presented a petition from a per-
,eon -sent Irmo the Isle of France by the Governor
to Nis country, and since his . arrival- desired or
permitted- to return. His.name, as we under-
stood, was Piro ) or Perron. He complained of
ill usage and long confinement. Mr. Brougham
said he had no particular knowledge- of him, and
,he believed_ he might have suppressed some parti-
' ,Ctlbill in
,his representation es to the conduct of
the Governor ; yet the matter ell-f. eared to require
~,aotne explenation.. He wishekto learn from the
,Neblei,ord.What eireinus4ances occurred 'which
justified the sending ewaniersons frhm the Island
withunt bringing them' to trial. He liad'heard
..._ .
that some accusations had been madeagainst Per-
sons
for proceedings against the entbrcement of
the measures adopted to destroy 'the Slart Trade.
The petition was brought iip, and read.
Mr. GOULBURN observed, -that' a longlleriod
[
elapsed without- any official correspondence froth
the Isle of France. .-The information that bad
been received principally Telated-to'Other Tireinn-
stances. 'The-regulations 'established by Govern=
meat in the Isle of France'were chiefly in utilise-
tvieuce of a disposition-there to carry on and en-
qutivage the Slave Trade, which ,svas awing to its
. having been a French. ,Islantl„ -A Frenclunan
. eArn4.oekta. end, 41.4cLeaVALlySft x9.., /ccite an oppo-
sition to the iiiitish doverhinent, :tc,tippeeced

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nor took legal advice, and then thatiuht it best
send two individtrals on board the King's sbti
and send them here. Government had not
ceived all the details. ' The attempt at install
tion Was quelfed, and the chief leader bad fled
lAladagascar. M. Perron bad wished to be put
a situation to take his trial. Captain Mee
shon•n ,that his treatment on board ship

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not what it was represented to have been.
Mr. Brautio objected to the mode pursued
rrspect to this individual: When he arrived Ito
itap_peared that there was no ground of charges
establish aity-ligtirpraCets- against him, *riche
allowed to sail back agia. This mode could
saver no good ptirpose whatever. These.conquel'
ed Colonies were in a peculiar situation since eV
acquisition of them. So in Trinidad •ceyloo,
and the lonian Isles, be knew of no regular fo'
vernment or constitution : nothing appeariitgi°
the will of the Governors'` That should not
the case ; and he hoped the (louse would
_taitql
the subject early next-Session..
• Sir Samuel. ROMILLY thought it most 11041st
that a British subject, as this man was since we
had the island, should -be sent heroin this manner'
to a country where he bad no interests, and with
wleose language and laws be was unaetyniipted:
because he had been connected with some illeg"'
Pmeeedings• A man might thui be torn from his
interest and family, and sent here without Ole.
tlicaartiltsyo is
. He might certainly,f subsistence, except what he derived 101 l
c
indeed, bring h
action ; but this seemed a very grave caie.
ever desirable it was to suppress the Slave Trades'
yet there appeared nothing to justify so violent a
proceeding.
Mr. I
..'oNsoNuv. said, that if this
concerned in measures of insurrection, he should
have been tried at the place.
Some "further observations passed between Mr.
Qoulburtf,' illt:Bratighatn, Sir S. 'Hominy,
Abercrotuby, Mr. Brand, Mrjonsonhy and Mr.
Bennett, and the Petition was ordered to lie Oil
the table. !Won

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Sir S. RostILLY gave notice of a motion for
dispatches of the Gum nor of the \IUUI 0
this subject.
General:TEßM/540z; adverted to the -molt' of,
collecting the 'Promo, Tax iii Srutl,tl,d,
hoped proper reductions would be allowed.
The CHANCELLOR Of tilC EXCHEQUER explitio.ct"
11r. GXENFELL; intimated his intention to 1004,
for certain papers relative to the of airs of
Bank, and in particular respecting the arraao"
melt as to Stamps.
The report of dip Saving Banks Bill was order'
ed for to-morrow.

IRISH GRAND JURY PRESENTMENTS.
Mr. COOPER, after a few preliminary.observa•
Lions, in the course of which be commented OP°ll
the Report
,whicb Committee had-drawn 111)("t
:this subject, moved.for leave to bring in a Bill t°
consolidate,, amend, and reduce into one, all the
Acts relative to the mode of raising money
alit
grand jury presentments in (eland, He stated 'l'
to be his intention not to press the BiU during d'a
present SesSion.
A lung I
conversation ensned, in the course of
which. Sir S. NewpOrt, Mr.onsonby, Mr. Abe."
eioniby, and Sir H. Parnell, urged the necesslcc
of a lid!, "11
even in the present Session, whichtt„.
place the tax levied bythese assessments under Piry
per coutront. Nothing could be more benefte"" to
the people of Ireland. On these grounds Sir P*7
nell moved, that the words " consolidating," 89
" redticing into one," be left out of- the mot's"'
for the purpoat of leaving Only the word
'bfr. Vasty FITZOBRALD coincided as to the ad:
lity of some immediate measure, but was .o
onsc ",,I'.l
ling to take the subject out of the hands f
lion. Friend (Mr. Cooper).
Mr. PEEL proposed that two Bills should be
i
• 13t1 th
e
other in, the one for, consolidating, 1 tile
of
other fur amending, so as to give the power -4
immediate controul. The latter Bill might Idre.
this Session; and the former be postponed to t"
next.
The SPEAKER submitted, that-in point of fol
two Bills could not concurrently pass throughl'_%,
House, both professing the same objects, thoog"
to greater extent in the one than the other; beh'
sides, the consolidating Act could not include tc
one that was contemporaneous with it.
After some farther conversation, in which Si'
G. Hill and Mr. Barnard took a part, Sir-
nell's Amendment was carried, and Mr. V.
Fitzgerald consented to bring in a Bill with tl'e
title thus altered.
Lord Mitiror presented a Petition from certgi')
Cloth- workers in Yorkshire, complaining of tit
hardships tinder which they laboured from the ,
treduction of machinery,
_and praying for the r'
inoval or the laws preventing their etnigratii
The Noble Lord remarked, that he Was o,°o
aware of the existence of any such Jaws.
Petition was -read, and ordered 40 • lie Ott
table.
The Iris% Bank Restriction Bill, and the Fa "
ter Colouring Bill, were read, a third time) an
passed.

IRISH CATHOLICS. le •
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Sir 11. PMINELL thought it his duty not •
the Sestion pass away? without caLing the et ttl;
tion of -the House to the petitions before the•
from the Catholics of Ireland. These petition,
he believed to express the sense of nine-
tclithi
the population of Ireland. That which tl4 ,
complained of, was exclusion from the Constl:
tion, a grievance which might well justifY
plaint, and entitle the petitioners to a PIT 700,
hearing.. He would not now call for the deeTtil.cit
of the House on- that great question 011 blett
their sense had been so recently espresscd)
it was.brought forward by his Right Hon. Fr'eL's;
the hlember for Dublin (Mr. GrHttan), but 14 "as
HaXimsto impress upon the House, that ci!pwAr•
his intention to do so to, the next Session io„.fight
liatrient. That the subjvct might not he
under considerailOn so late as it had latter
year after year, lie now desired to make it kar()Wst
thatlie should feel it his duty to attend titell°tia
in-the first week of the ensiling Session, vvue‘
'0,6
should give notice of a motion for ft Call "0,,
House on an early day, for the piiipose or `of
soring a full 'attendance on tite disciosiott-
the Cstholic Claims. Lie beelged• to,stlles

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Wis sincere opinion, that, tiering the
iiit-
between thit and the next Session, Gentlemen
could, not better emPley theMselves, than by
investigating the 'resent %tate of Leland and
the claims of the Catlrolic Petitioners, and
he was 'Confident this done, there whiiitt be* but
one conviction ; a conviction, that those laws
now complained of as pressing with unnecessary
severity on the Catholics out to bp repealed. If
this were not resolved upon, the most .6ttal tOn-
acque)Mees might be apprehended ; 'for though a
Military Government in Ireland• might succeed in•
preventing the general trantriility from being
disturbed for some time, it WAS not a system .that
could he expected to endure long. He wished
to
;snow how the Government now stood with et-
speet to this question, and whether there was that •
gi eat influence ill' the Cabinet in their favour,
«inch they had some right to- expect 1- On look,
tug at the Cprrespondence which_ took .place be-
tween time Marquis Wellesley and Lord Liver-
pool, after the decease of Air. Percev,al in 1812,
foetid among the objections then tirge'd by
Lord Liverpool against the measure of Catholic
kmancipetion, the temper and conduct of the
COtbolics. and the then circumstances of Europe,
Were. particularly set forth. •
Mr. Pere spoke to order. He had mtderstood
the Hon. Baronet, at the beginning ot his speech,"
to intimate, he dill not now propose to take the
sete-e,ot the House on the Catholic Question, but
that lie had risen nierely to give a notice He
did not wish to interrupt him, but, if such was hii
intention, he thought it irregular to go at large
into the merits of the case of the Petitioners.
Sir 11. PARNELL. resumed. He did not in-end
to require the decision ot the House-on the gene-
ral question, but he should shortly state the na-
ture of the motion with which lie' intended to
seclude, which would go but to Call for suber-
Ainate concessions. To return to the, teasons
riven by Lord' Liverpool in 1812, for not consent-
ing to Catholic Emancipation, he begged to call
the attention of the House to the changes while
• had taken place since that period; In -the- 'first
the conduct nett temper of the Catholics
'were quite different. The Catholic Clergy end
Laity had recently- corsented to a measure with
respect to 'the nomination of their Bishops, which
virtually put an end to the practical influence of
the Pope its this Calitpire, though it might not go
ass, far as some of their opponents might contend,
it ought to go. The circumstances of. Ent ope !oo
were now so changed, that the arguments opposeil
to the measure of Catholic Emancipation in 181'2,
collie! he no longer brought (dr 'Ward. He wished
to know what circumstances were now to be re-
ferred to; in order to justify Government in re-
fusing to make it a Cabinet question If ever
there was a period at which it ought to be matte a
'Cabinet question, it was the Session now passing
by, and this, he thought, must he acknowledged.
by every one 'who remembered -the statement
(which had been Made in that House by the Right
.lion. Gentleman opposite, on the present situation
of Ireland. The repeated disappointments which
the Catholics had experienced, had induced a
neva, belief, that it was not intende,d ever to
relieve them from the• 'disabilities under which
-they at present laboured,. and -he was therefore
anxious now, by calling for some sub Ordinate
coucessions, to convince them, that they acre ..tit
',wholly neglected. These, if granted, would be
'received with gratitude;' and, in claiming•thems
lie +(stunted h heselfon the authority of thk Speaker,
who three years ago had, wir,le arguing in favour,
of Withholding'political influence from the Cat ho,
lies, expressed himself in favour of the most per-
fect toleration. He wished, in' the first place, to
'open to time Catholics of Ireland, 'several of those
offices from which they were excluded by time Act
irif 1793. He wished, among -others, to make
them eligible to serve as Cashiers null Tellers of
the Exchequer; as Attorney and Solicitor-Gene.
Tai ; as Master-General ot the -Ordnance ; and
'also to make them competent to fill any Office in
tiny Corporation. He wished the Army and the
wavy to he thrown open to 'excluding Catholics
from holding the rank of Commander in the
forces, and subjectiag to similar exception in the
tavy.
.11 it were necessary to state cases of
hardship to prdve the expediency of adopting
these Resolutions, such cases could be easily
;Aimed. The case of one Gentleman he beg-
ged to be 'permitted to bring under the no-
flee of the House.. The individual to whom lie
referred, entered the Navy in 1796, anti con-
fitter(' in the seeviee during the •remainder of the;
lete wer.'. Halted the good fortune to distinguish
himself, so that he'veas recommended to the Ad.
piralty in his Commander's dispatches, and, in
couseqeence promoted to the rank ofiCoinniander.
al short time since he was called upon to t'a're out
Iris commission„ when the oath lie was required to
-.stake being 'incompatible with his religion, be not
'only lost his, promotion, but with it the emote-
'smuts which he •ss.as entitlell- to for his long see-
.iviet. This Gentleman had lost four bi.others- in
the service. Otte :of them was an Officer Who was
*hot in Spain, and the other three had lost their
lives through fatigne or from the. climate where
'6O-services had been required. The next con-
eeSsion 'he should require woelil be, that Catlin-
'lies should he allowed to sit-in Parliament on tak-
ing the same oaths as were taken by Protestants.
Ile next intended to propose, that the Catholics.
of Ireland should be. subject to the-same laws
h respect to property as the' Protest tint S.. From
peglect of the qualifying Oath, at present required,
.urine cases of much hardship bad occurred. He
Alluded to one, iii wEich a 'Gentleman who had
'been a Surgeon, having left a considerable sum to
aineanot her, it urns obtained by another whir wai a
TrateStant, in consequence of the latter having as-
certained that,- the qualifying oath had not been
taken. He then proposed to make further prod-
- iron • for Securing Donations to Roman Catholic
Chapelsfor Maintaining aged-Priests, or founding
behit,mis for she-Eilueafron 'of the Catholic Chil
(Irftm. 'The two next' Resolutions would go to
punish those who might' disturb a Roman Catho-
. jic-cNtigregarion inn place of or insult a
Catholic Clergyniae, and to pettish Officers in the
Artny Or Navy, who might forcethoseundertheir
•coninmand to attend any place of worship, not be-
. 19,oging to those of the- Itoman Catholic persua-
vken• If these Resoletions should bi- edopted by
ttie•youse, xt let>iiid be proper to add to them one
it %eta be eectssary to place the Catho:

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Ireland. Thisbe thought that which ought to bare
been dout long ago. if the propasitioos which
had brought forward were ag►'eed to, the tatho-
lics,wonld be relieved froth many practical

of *which they at present coniplained, And he
doubted not the boon would he "received with suit-

able gratitaule. 'These concesoooi be thought
might safely hernade, awl- tie 'toped ,thee Noble
1,0 opposite (Lord Castlereagh) would give tiee
Test)lotiim he was ifotV about to subtnit .to the

Hbuie'his support. He then mnve►l the resol►i-
tion for punishing persons who -might disturb a
Roman,Catholie Gongtegation.,or insult a
.eathof

lir Preacher.

Alr. PE R'L moved, that the Standing Orderivith
respect to Religion should be read. -
The Standing Order .wpis read: it tet
that no Bill relating to Religh•n, or to alter 'the
Laws tespectirgit, .
should-he brought hnt in
consequence Of the Resolutions of a; touttnittei,
of the whOle House.

Mr: PEEL was aware the Hon. Baronet inighi
ssay he did not mean to Move for lease to bring in
a Bill in the present instance, but he (Mr. Peel)
wished to point out to Win that he would gain no-
thing by the present mode of proceeding, even
though the Resolutions should be carried, as it

woulCi then be necessary to submit them► to a Com-

mittee of the Whole House before a Bill could be
brought in.
The SPEiMER stated the Standing Order of the
House to have the effect described by the Right
Hon. Gentleman. He, however, dirt not know.
butlmy Member Was free•to submit an abstract
proposition to the House, though in a case like.
the preient ',such a proceeding must be fruitless.
Sir H. PAimet-t. was aware of this objection'td
taking the general question in this way, but when
he had only called on rite, House to consider a
branch of it, not involving important political
topics, he had thought the Standing Order not
equally applicable..
• Mr. Serjeant BEST contended, to take the
jeer piece-meal, by which means the whole might
be brought into discussion, was obviously against
the spirit of the Standing Order.
Sir 11. PARNELL referred CO Old !11/Mail-1p Of
the Parliament of Ireland," to :shety be, was not,
so much mistaken its the coarse he had pursued as
might have been suspected.

'.vishedin know if the Hon. Baronet
meant to persevere in his motion, as in that case
he should feel it to. be h s duty to otfer a very
abort reply to his speech ?
PARNELL expt essed himself ready to sub-
mit to the Right lion. Ge„tle►uan, if he (Mr.
Peel) pressed his objection: to .the course he had

Lord CASTLEREAGa fv.)tfor the situation of the
Honourable 13aronet,•• In 'the ciltir4e 'of ?Arlin-
thentary business no lino. Member mild he gray
tined Ht bringing torward'a motion tinder tireont-
stances like those which attended that now bet Ore
the House. It was impossible not to feel, that in
thus bringing the question lomat d he could do it
no 'good; and the Hon'. Baronet no.v stood in a
most painful situation in the of the empire,
in "that of the House itself, and in that of his own
polirical friends. If under such auwiees he could
reconcile it to his own feelings to proceed, such
a course would be abhorrent to the feelines 'of

those wlao usually acted with him, and.to others
who felt as anxious on this qn(Ntion as the

towable Baronet himself could do.

lie trusted

he (Sir Henry Parnell) %%pallid feel that to per
would be to sacrifice the real interests of
the question to what he might regard as 'his •
own consistency, though surely that could not
really be consistency in him, which at all made
against those of whoth he had-so long been the
advocate., He would put it to the Hon. Baronet,
if many of the friends to this qiiistion bad not
withdrawn themselves on account of the course
which he had thought it his duty to take
he would ask if 'it was dealing candidly. by ,site House thus to bring this
mission piece-meal ? great question hitt) dis-
,He (Lord Castlereagh) was
not prepared to oppose those concessions which
had heep,called for, bat at the sante time he could
not stiffer himself, from the view be took
'question, to be dragged in to support every indis-
creet motion Whith might be brought forward can-
fleeted with it. The imprudent motioo of the lion.
Baronet he thought likely to dogreat injury to the
cause, and therefore ionicl not give it his support..
He put it to the lion, Baronet', if by persevering in
his motion he could hope to serve the Catholics,
when it was seen his own pOlitiq3k friends were
ahsetit, to avoid being -placed -in that dilemma:
which would lease them WI choice hut to vote
against his ,rititien, or to do that which wnuld
not serve-the 00110110 E He hoped the Flon.Ba--
would cotteiliate Parliament, by net perse-
vering. a his resent motion, HS'it W3S 'obviously
'the interest et the question, that he shmad &than.;
don it, and he therefore hoped he would with-
draw his resolutions. '
Sir H. PARNELL briefly replied. He
notwithstanding what had fallen from the Noble
Lord, that every discussion served the cause, and
it could not be expected that the condtict of the
Catholics would be satisfactory, while their claims
were neglected. He consented to Withdraw:his
resolutions.
Mr. H. ADDINGTON moved for leave to bring
in a Bill to repeal certain laws relating to the
and to amend others. The motion was
agreed to, and the Bill was immediately brought
in, read a. first anti ordered to be read a second
time to-morrow,
" The Minor Offenders',Bilf went through -a Com-
mittee, the report of which was ordered to- be
received to-morrow.
The Ex-thequer's 'Consolidation Bill.was read a
second time, and ordered to be committal on
Monday,
On the motion of Mr. Citottaa, the second read-.
ittg of the Silver Coinage Bill was postponed till
to7Morrow.
Tire Exchequer Bills Bill went through a Com-.
mittee,•,the report of which was ordered to be re-
ceived to-morrow.
The Report of the Lottery Bill was brought up
and agreed to, anti the Bill ordered to be read a
third time totmorroW.
• The. Report of the Committee of Ways''and
Means was),trought up-and agreed to.
is aTvuniwittee on the. Acts relnitis to Smug-
;

brining..in a Hilt to atreod the c%iviiig 11!,:ws,
which visas itgreed to. Tile Report t+ as ordered
to he received to-atoTrow.

The Property Tax Arrear COthection was
l'ead H second time, and -cOrtnnitied for to-

morrow.

The Tridt 'fre;isilky Bilk 'l3ili and the Bank
'Capital Bill %vent through Committees of the
whole Hoose. Itet,6‘rls 'to-morrow.

The ElPlronteter Bill also went (biting!) atolif-
tuittee at. Ike-whole House, the Report of which
tras ordered to be received to-morrow.

The Report of the Irish Malt Doty BiII'VVIIS re-
ceived and agreed. to, -and the Bill ordered to be
lead a.thirtLtitne:nn Monday next.

,SCOrCir DNI'ILLERY LAWS.

On the: motion fot a Cpunnttee on the Scotch
Distillery Act, .
Mr. GRANT hoped it'wolt4l not be brought for-
yard in so thin a House. • •
The CUANCELLOItof the EXCHEQUER said, the
messure was Of t'-ry urgent importance iH phint
-of time, and as this was only the very first sta;ze
of the measure-, there would be many otheroppor-
Utilities of discussing it.
Ms. .1. P GnANf wished to know what reduc-
tion. was to be made in the ditty ? and also spoke
in favour of delay.
The Howse then Went into the Cominittee.
• The enANcif.4,Loa of the ExeuEauta Said, that
illicit distillation' had of late years been carried on
to a must mischievous extent ; and tint this teas
very much to, be 'attributed io the had quality of the
spirit produced front the regular distilleries. The
Om which be intended ?n{ submit to the Commit..
tee consisted 'of re:;itifttion'And reduction Of ditty.
I Fur t bk.-purpose, he intended.to enforce the ItSe of
stills. By this' meansi esperictiiy the
Highlands (where illicit fikt Illation chiefly pre-
vailed), a palatable spirit miht be produced in the
legal way, :Atul illicit distillation thus eTecttially
prevented. A -boundary had been established •foe'
the Highlands, within which' the distillery duty
;" but with this regtilitinn, that house of
the spirit distilled within the Highland boundaty
jthotild he transported to the L'OwlAnds. But -he
:Oow intended to abolish this line entirely, And to
reduce the , duty on the whole from Os. 4(1. to
4,1. per gallon. He then moVed a resolution
to that effect.

Mr. C. ChttiNT, senior, said a few words not
audible in the Gallery.
Mr. W. Smrrtt wished that the. Right Honour-
able Geittletuan had gone a greater length, and
.bail wade the Duty still lower, - He. feared that
'lire babas of the.people in the Highlands had-heen
•30 HMO aCCMIOUIed to have their Spirits. without
Tiny Duty, that it would be difficult to collect a
_duty of 6s: 4;l.
CHANCELLOR of the ExcnEoutta.saitli Oult
the _higher the duty Was inade, so us it could he
collected, the better it would be for the morals of
:the people.
Mr:IIII4I.NY thought Gs. 4d. too 'pith a duty
undtt 'the ,present cireunistattees. lle conceiyo
that the main, object was not :to iilere3se die re-
venue, but to destroy stitugitt:itg..--and with, this
would proliose a 'duty very epasitler!.
ably lower. • -
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Atter a few words .from' Mr. MYlne, Mr. C.
Grant, sen. Mr. Wni.Dilintat; and Mt. C.
Air. Vgsay said-,:thixot if the duty
wes wade too low,, the eifegt, would be Only to

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Pilcottrage the ciansompOon, of spirits, to the de-
teriointion of the morals'of the people, and thus
to legalize the mischief which- 1t was *wished to
pro Tent,
Mr. J. P. GRANT spoke shortly in hcbalf'-Or
a
greater reduction in the duty.
The Ciiiitq:Ett.oft of the EXoll3Citittlt Said,Vaitt
he was convinced upon the whole, that the rate
which he proposed was the best, under till circum-

stances. , i
After a few word; farm Mr.-3. P. Grant, Mr.
linlay, and Mr. W. Smith, the resol ,tiOns were
agreed to, and the report ordered to•be reeriyed
to-morrow. . ..
The Irish Paper Duty Bill was brought up
*lntl read a first time; second reading to-morrow.
Mr. \V. SMITH I;,tVe notice that he should move
to-morrow for (intier papas respecting titettis
iu Aill.Attjoutoeti.