The Sun.
London, England, 1820-11-07 00:00:00

THE SUN.

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LONDON,
71uEspAy, NO "'EMBER 7, 1820,

271 E QUE E

11°Ust OF LORDS criliS DAY), Nov. 7.

Ilker —...
iri the ere 'was rather a thin attendance of Peers
b le beginning of the morning, but the
pROYAL
t!
Were there at an early hour.— rayers
tlte'e °ver at ten o'clock, and the Call ended ats
c't''('4lltYsfive minutes past ten, when the Bar wa
'.:(1 for Counsel.
4 140, t.
A- earl of LAUDERDALE, on seeing the pre-
l'ati°lls .that were made, observed, that theres
kb; ti° Order of the House for hearing ou
Barei,
(3
wi'
''Whed to know by whose directionsthe
I cleared for receiving them.
f„'":11.p. Lone CHANCELLOR at length asked Mr.
by rtle (the Deputy Usher of the Black Rod)
Cc:ll°Be order the Bar had been cleared for
nel ;
..i\s`l
knew::
QuAttmE assured his Lordship that he
e\ nothing of it, as he found the Douse
tp.letl,Y ill the state it now was when he en-
it,
L, 4 Loan CHANCELLOR then inquired if the
k-' or the Black Rod was in attendance .
ThAt,;tit five minutes passed off
before Sir Tho.
144 Yrwhitt made his appearance at the Bar,
lioh the
Lord Chancellor informed him that the
,t 'se liad
to
observed preparations for Counsel
tlle:'%.ived at the Bar', without any orderfrom
tlit.4. 4'°rdships, who wished to know by whose
4io
. r's they were made ? •
l''''.l4oATAs Trrtwirivr, in reply, said that lie
h'4,:ti it Was owing to the Attorney-General's
ork4- raentionin, that his master was likely to
ir:lthere, in consequence of which he had or-
Tr, the
Prepatations to be made.
-r
liort, -`4"1) CHANCELLOR then informed Sir
eNI-" l'Yrwhitt that the matter might be su
II
tli ti_ol. (4°l) here, but that in future no Officer
ills
—"se was liberty to take such measures
itl'lt the order of the House.
Lord THE• QUEEN'S CASE.
t°4lll • - bAcRE rose and said, that since he had
itorli 144' the House, he bad received a PROTEST
41)iivottle QuEtN. He had not expressed his
'orl,l
lv 1-1
04 the subject of the Bill, but his objec-
Poioere so strong, that, perhaps,• he ought to
age, for not having stated them at an earlier
''' 1, 'le
hoped their Lordships would receive
e oh;Qtest just placed in his hands, though
'''lse-hee," to their Lordships, as Jury and
c't 11:;°rs, voting a,ainst the Queen. He had
i the sufficient time to consider the contents
e kir; Protest which was entrusted to him ; but
Needderst°°(l that her Majesty complained of the
oteti—ltlgs throu,hout, and also that many who
"44 fOcr, the
Lill had riot attended to hear the
3-ttd4c- at the Bar. After this, her Majesty pro-
'ith,' befere God, from the bottom of her con-
. ''e) that she' was innocent of the criminality
Ilkt sh leh she Was charged. She further said;
that :1 Would abstain from all further appeals
tltht ."12se, and reserve her justification for
,each r Place, if ever the present Bill should
't l'eOther
II House.
t pr
eit:44 o:rrte't. was shortly read by the Noble Lord.—eslty washad
, flit lb (112ne Regina, nod stated, that her - .J . Sit ' Progress of the Bill of Pains and Penalties in that
'',1"It'r(1411:1 tb4t, in the face of her Family and Country she
ulvith t -niust it. Peers hail raised their voices against her
1.'44 40,4:Idling they were absent while her defence was going
'1,4% • 'dej.B,WITO composed the Secret Corninittee, had come
"I'h et 4 thejriudgment, by an accumulated mass of slanders,
11'^litten trthn' very peers had not dared to bring forward to
ihi,"r., ,"I"ss the prevent Bill, however, came before the
,'''''cli„4,-.e'l of the Legislature, she would not. recall to re-
'''' i 1, tyro'
twenty years of her persecution arid suffer-
!, 1--e cot, ,
:ttit , laded by protesting before God that she was
''''l)l, ''' the charges laid to her, and would resist, by all
l l'iln '4'14,, this unparalleled Prosecution.
i .-.0 R. r-,
a-kftCr. t - %-,ltarictuan said, he conceived
he. second reading of the Bill, the ac-

cured. might be personally heard against it. it
was, therefore, for their Lordships to consider
if they would receive the Protest, as in the case
of Bishop Atterbury and others. It certainly
might be received as an Address. But as a Pro-
test, he was apprehensive that it could not be
received by the House.
Lord DAcaE was aware of the difficulty which
had been just stated by the Noble and Learned
Lord, but trusted that their Lordships would
not press upon her Majesty the necessity of ap-
pearing personally for the purpose of presenting
a Protest to the House. If this course was in-
sisted on, he confessed that he entertained but
little hope of the result, when he considered
how imperfectly her Majesty would be able to
address their Lordships, in a language not familiar
to her, and which gave her little or rather no
prospect of succeeding in such a case. He hoped
that her Majesty's rank and situation would so
far influence their Lordships at this period, as to
induce them to receive her sentiments in some
other form. If, indeed, it could be received as
an Address, rather than a Protest, he had no ob-
jection to offer it under that form. ,
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, that he had no
desire to resist the reception of the Protest, if
offered to their Lordships in another form. He
thought the most proper mode, that if the paper
was received by the House, it 'should be entered
on their Lordships' Journals that it had been re-
ceived as an address only, and as containing what
her Majesty would have offered to the House if
she had been personally there.
The Loan CHANCELLOR said, that he should
not have discharged his duty, if he had not given
due notice to the House that her Majesty's Pro-
test could not be received as such. He wished
to make no observations on the contents of the
paper that was now tendered by the Noble Lord,
but he certainly was at a loss to know on what
principle the writer had felt authorised to make
observations on what had passed at their Bar,
the conduct of the House in general, and also
that of individual Peers. But if their Lordships
chose to receive it as an Address, he left it entire-
ly to them, and they were at liberty to take it.
The Earl of LAUDERDALE rose, and said he
was of opinion, that the Paper might be received
as the Address of her Majesty, but nothing ought
to be added to it. He wished also to say a few
words on the contents of the Paper then offered
tolthe House. He found that it was stated
therein, that certain of their Lordships had come
into that House from the Secret Committee with
their minds biassed by a mass of slanders which
the Queen's enemies had not dared to produce.
He had been on that Committee, but he did
net know how her Majesty knew the circum-
stance that the Secret Committee had not produc-
ed all the contents of the Documents which had
been inspected by them ; but, he would ask their
Lordships, for what purpose was this charge
shewn in the Protest ? Clearly, and indubitably,
for no other purpose, than falsely and scandal-
ously to vilify the characters of those Noble
Lords who composed the Committee. Though,
as he mentioned just now, he had sat on that
Committee, he would declare, that he had given
his opinion on the evidence, which was after-
wards heard at their Lordships' Bar; and was
it to be suffered that himself or any other. Noble
Lord were to be slandered fOr giving their
opinions so formed ? With all the respect that he
really felt for a woman of exalted rank, and
in such circumstance; as her Majesty then
stood, he must be permitted to say, without
the slightest wish to offend her feelings,
that there were things in that Address or Pro-
test, which he must have neglected his, duty, if
he had not objected to them. If even her
Majesty had been present in the House at this
time, he should have felt it his duty to have risen
and repelled so calumnious and unfounded a
charge. He hoped, at any rate, that their Lord-
ships would not allow such charges to go down
uncontradicted to posterity.

The Duke of I\TEwcAsTLE, in explanation of
what passed on a former day, said that, trusting
to the integrity of their Lordships, he would
fearlessly do his duty in that House without re-
gard to aspersion of any kind, either there or
elsewhere.

Lord SOMERS said, that it was not his inten-
tion to have troubled the House with observa-
tions, had he not thought that one part of the
Address which her Majesty had caused to be
laid before them applied to him. Owing, as their
Lordships knew, to a severe indisposition which
confined him to his bed, he was unable to attend
to some part of their proceedings. He hoped
the Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack
would do him the justice to believe that nothing
but disability would have prevented his atten-

dance there. M had moreover paid great atten-
tion to every other part of the evidence, for he
happened to be seated near the Bar, and beard
every thing that passed there ; and he had since
not only read, but digested the whole of the case,
with all the carefulness and lodgment it required.
But here it would be recollected by their Lord-
ships, that it was stated, at the commencement
of these proceedings, that in case of the casual
absence of Noble Lords, the Minutes being
printed day after day, there would be an oppor-
tunity for knowing with correctness what had
passed in the House ; and it was understood that
Noble Lords would be allowed to be occasionally
absent, if it was necessary for them to omit to
come down. With respect to the question
still before the House, he must declare that,
in his opinion, there 'never was a subject
in which he was more firmly and more con-
scientiously convinced than in the present case—
and he was sorry to say, for he must say it, that
he believed the Illustrious Person to be guilty
of the charges laid to her. He would assure
their Lordships that he lamented this convic-
tion as deeply as any of their Lordships, but
he was called on to do his duty, and he had
discharged it with the most decided conviction.
He should be sorry to offer his reasons for re-
fusing the Address, but it charged him, among
others, with not attending to the whole of the evi-
dence at the Bar ;he wished to go into it.—
(Cries of Order, order !)
The LORD CHANCELLOR here observed, that
the Noble Lod was not strictly in order in the
present stage of the Bill.

Earl GREY wished to call the attention of their
Lordships to what the question now before them
practically was. The subject in discussion was the
propriety of receiving the Paper which had been
tendered in behalf of the Queen, and how it was
to be received in this stage of the proceedings ;
then he imagined that no Noble Lord could be
allowed to discuss the evidence on the Bill.

The Earl of LAUDERDALE was nearly of the
same opinion as the last Noble Earl, who ex-
plained in a few words.
The Duke of ATHOL, as far as we could
learn, said he thought that it would be im-
proper to go into the discussion of the evidence
at any length, -but that the Noble Lord should
be allowed to explain, on account of the peculiar
circumstances iri which he stood.

Lord SOMERS then explained, or rather, in def-
ference to the opinion of the House, he declined
to proceed* •
Lord SNEFFIELD, in a very low tone, almost
inaudible, rose to explain the occasion of his hav-
ing been absent from the House, but it was
iun-
possible to collect what his Lordship said.
(We left the Earl of CAELNARVON on his legs.)