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ced wanld defeat its own pisrpOse whenever it was
.mod to extent. He warned Gentlemen, too, of the
asteedent which this Bill wound lay down for inter-
•rpladdling with the rights of lily Impropriators ; and if
there was no other ground of objection, he would take
Iris stand in &eine upon this. But inasmuch as the evil
otoplained of (the poverty of curates) resulted from
. tbe great and general abuse of the power of ordina-
tion, vested in the discretion of the Bishops, by their con-
/ening orders upon too mails-, without due examina-
tion whether they had provision in view, he thought
the abuse of one discretionary power a bad argument
another, and that the greater vigilance
for conferriag
of the Bishops was the true remedy for the evil.
Mr. MANNERS SUTTON expressed his surprise
at the statement of the Honourable Baronet respect-
ing the neglect of Bishops in admitting improper per-
sons into the church. There was no point in which
so much improvement had taken place respecting the
church, even within the last twenty years, as in the
arrangements made for the examination of persons,
Candidates for Holy Orders, in order to secure the
admission of proper persons.
Mr. WILBERFORCE considered it as the first
!commendation of this Bill, that it would tend to
provide adequately for persons at present suffering
the extreme of poverty, The Honourable Gentleman
then advanced a variety of other arguments in support
tithe measure. He argued from former precedents,
that there would be neither undue influence on the
part of the Bishops, in carrying this Bill into effect,
sior undue submission on the part of the Clergy; as
a decided friend to the Church of England, he was a
wad friend to this Bill.
mr.WINDHAM deprecated the practice of the last
spa*, in imputing the cenduct pursued by those who
we in opposition to his sentiments to total ignorance,
'or total indifference with respect to the interests of the
Church. A spirit of charity towards Roman Catho-
lics, or other Sects, was by no means a mark of ig-
wrance or indifference with respect to the superior
value of Protestantism. The present Bill was calcu-
lated to do much injury, and little good. It was
called for by no public feeling. The evils which the
Bill went to remedy, if real, must have been of long
standing : yet, strange to tell, they were now, for
the first time, complained of. The Bill would set the
Curate against the Rector, and the Rector against
the Curate, and would place the Bishop in the invi-
dious situaticn of being umpire between both. It
went to alter the condition and property of the fami-
lies of the Rectors and the Curates. The sacredness
of church property was invalidated by every addi-
tional instance of legislative interference, though
certainly the Legislature had a right to exercise such
interference. The Church was more in danger from
the doctrines that accompanied this Bill, than from
the Pope and the College of Cardinals, not dispersed
and wandering, as he was sorry they were now, but
in the plenitude of their power, The conduct of
some gentlemen in this case, reminded him of what
Swift said in his letter to the Bishop of Sarum, that
he did not admire that sagacity that smelled out Po-
pery at 500 miles distance, and did not discover fa-
hausism under his nose.

Mr. WILBERFORCE explained.
Mr. M. A. TAYLOR contended that evil existed,
and that remedy was called for. There Nv4S not a
sufficiency of resident Clergy tea do the duties of the
Church. The income of the Curates did not keep
pace with those of the Rector, nor with the circum-
stances of the time. Hence, one Curate was often
obliged to serva two or three parishes ; and thus bap-
tism and burials stand over till certain fixed days.
Clvarch property was given on the condition of per. j
forming the duties of the Church, and the country'
hd a right to provide for the performance of those
duties out of that property. In a village near his
residence, the duties of the Churcla had not been per-
formed by a Clergyman for three years. The conse-
quence was, that a blacksmith came to him for a li-
cence to perform the duty (a laugh.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
contended, that there was an urgent necessity for the
Bill, and that the provisions contained in it were in
strict conformity with the principles and usage of our
ancestors. The Bill was most favourable to the inte-
rests of the Church and of Religion, and most unfa..
Tearable to Sectarism. He vindicated the exemplary
rooduct of the Right Rev. Prelate, who had been
alluded to (the Archbishop of York), in the exercise
of his patronage. He allowed that some provision
for the poorer Curates would still be wanted ; and he,
far one, should be ready to entertain any proposition
that may be brought forward to that effect. He
thought it a great defect in the original institution of
lay impropriations, that provision was not made un-
det the controul of the Bishops for the performances
of the religious duty. But this could not be mended
by interfering with lay impropriations at the pre-
sent time. He proposed to withdraw the motion im-
mediately before the House, with a view to move an
mstiuction to the Committee to extend the provisions
of the Bill to Ireland.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT gave his hearty concur-
rence
to the Bill. as a general measure. The Legis-
lature was intitled to make provision from the revenue
of the higher order of livings, in the performance of
the duties of religion, having but two years since re.
lieved the holders of then livings, from the penalties
of non.residence.
SirJOHN NEWPORT and theCHANCELLOR
14 the EXCHEQUER mutually explained.
The instruction moved by the CHANCELLOR
of the EXCHEQUER was then agreed to.
On the question for the Speaker leaving the Chair,
- Lord DORCHESTER conceived that there was no
all for the Bill. This was a case of reform ; and he
asked if there ever was a question of reform agreed
to, without a case being made out. When the Worthy
Baronet near him (Sir F. Burdett); as he' himself
should be inclined to do, called on the House to re-
form abuses of which he complained, what was the
language of the very persons who now pressed the
present measure, ~ That he must make out his case."
This he now called on those Gentlemen to do, which
• not having done, he must esteem the present to be a
measure altogether uncalled for, unnecessary and im-
proper.
Mr. TYRRWHIT JONES strongly supported
the measure, and expressed a hope that the Noble
Lord would not continue to refuse his assent to the
Proposition of the Bill then going into a Committee.
Sir CHARLES PRICE expressed some doubt
that the Bill, as it then stood, would have a tendency
to sow schism between the Curates and the Incum-

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The two Spanish Noblemen who arrived yesterday
were Viscount MADEROSSA and Don DIEGO de la VEGA.

They came from Spain in the STAG privateer, and were
landed at Falmouth, having got on board that ship
from an open boat that took them from Gyon, in the
province of Asturias. They were accompanied from
Falmouth to town by Captain Thu., of the Humber.
The following is the substance of the inte/ligence com-
municated by these Noblemen to ow Government :
They were at Madrid at the time of the insurrection
on the 2d of May, and declare that 4000 French were
killed, including a large proportion of officers. They
contrived to make their escape after the insurrection,
and hastened into the province of Asturias, which
they left about the SOth of May, They assert, that
one sentiment of indignation against the French per-
vades Spain, but particularly the provinces of Astu-
rias and Gallicia. Gallicia is in a state of insurrec-
tion, and even the women, forgetting awhile the natu-
ral delicacy and timidity of their sex, animate by
their speeches and example, the men to take up arms
against the invaders. All Asturias is rising, and has
already on foot an army of 40,000 men. It was very
generally supposed that the inhabitants of Catalonia
and Biscay would follow the noble example which
had been set them by those of Asturias and Gallicia ;
and there appeared to be but one sentiment in the
minds of the people of Spain with respect to the
treacherous and atrocious conduct of the French.
There is no want of arms, but a great scarcity of
ammunition, which they hope our Government will
immediately furnish. Asturias set the example of re-
sistance, and dispatched Commissioners into Gallicia
to invite the people to rise in concert with them.
Mr. HUNTER, the British Consul, having been sent
prisoner by MuxAT from Madrid, with orders that he
should be thrown into prison at St. Antler°, the peo-
ple immediately rose and liberated him, and put the
French Consul in prison in his stead. A declaration
of war against the French was then issued at St. An.
dero. These Noblemen entertain little doubt that
Biscay and Catalonia will immediately follow the ex-
ample of Asturias and Gallicia, anctin short they de-
scribe all Spain to be against the French. They
have not brought any intelligence from Cadiz, nor
has Government received any.

The following letter from our Falmouth Correspost-
dent contains some other particulars relative to. the
present state of Spain, as comMunicated by other
Spanish Gentlemen who arrived in the STAG :
" FALMOUTH, JUNE 6.
" Arrived this day the STAG brig privateer, Captain Fiat,
belonging to Jersey, and has on board six Spanish Gentlemen,
among whom are the Viscompte de 111ADEROSbA, from Gijon
(Asturias; which they left on the 30th May. It appears that the
whole of the provinces of Asturias and Biscay are determined to
resist the French troops, for which purpose a proclamation has
been published, dated Oviedo, May '25, declaring their ports open
to the English, and inviting all these capable of bearing arms, to
repair immediately to Oviedo ; and they have appointed el Excel-
kntissimo S.D. Josortm de NAVIA, Marquis de Santa Cruz de
Merienado, Commander in Chief, with Officers under him, for
the Naval and hlilitary department ; that 20,000 men had already
assembled ; that there were above 100,000 stand ef arms in those
provinces, but that they were much in want of ammunition : the
other provinces, viz. Arragon, Catalonia, Leon, and Gallicia, are
in a state of revolt. An English cutter was dispatched to Ferrol,
with copies of the proclamation, and great hopes are entertained
among the Spaniards, that the glorious struggle, though late, may
yet be successful. Those Spanish Gentlemen are come to crave
the assistance of the British Governmert, and went off this after-
noon in a post chaise and four, accompanied by Captain HILL, of
his Majesty's ship Hex see."
To the above we have only to add, that it cannot
be doubted that Government will immediately afford
the Spaniards such aids as prudence may dictate, to
enable them to maintain the struggle in which they
engage. Sound policy demands that an
pear ready to