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London, England, 1827-06-15 00:00:00

A NEW ERA

For Ireland, may be dated from the period when
an enlightened and expanded policy has at last
become ascendant in the British Government, by the
nomination of Mr. Canning to the premiership. In
the glow of elaborate candour and manliness with
which Mr. Peel wished to adorn his public charac-
ter, he precipitated himself into some admissions
arid declarations which, while they will be apt to
embarrass his future political life, will be of some
service to the country. Among these were the
boast, that since he was Home Secretary, he was
the person who conducted the affairs of Ireland, and
was responsible for her situation. Little did the
organs of faction know, while they were giving
to every outrage in Ireland a political or religious
character, exaggerating every evil, crime, and cala-
mity, in order to ascribe all to Wellesley and Conci-
liation; that the time would shortly arrive when
their own pet Secretary, ,would adopt all this excel-
lent abuse, by declaring that he it was who was
responsible for ,the state of Ireland! ! ! Let the
slanderous chronicles now revise their columns, and
wherever they find the names of Wellesley and
Plunket, let them substitute the more appropriate
names of Peel and Goulburn. To these gentlemen,
according to Mr. Peel's declaration, all this abuse is
applicable.
A curious inference is attempted to be adduced by
a London cotemporary, in conseqUence of this admis-
sion of Mr. Peel's—that therefore the office of Lord
Lieutenant in Ireland was useless. But in recol-
lecting that much of the good Lord Wel-
lesley intended to do was frustrated, it should
be remembered also all the mischief he pre-
vented. That the system of equal justice which
he professed and practised in the administra-
tion of affairs, did not produce all the benefits
it was calculated and intended to perform, may
now be ascribed to the admitted interference
at the other side ; while the fact, that an
improved confidence in the administration of justice
—that eight counties were delivered into his hands
in a state of insurrection now perfectly pacified—
that the military force has been diminished, and that
the Noble Marquis himself can live among the people
without alarm, must be attributable to Lord Wel-
lesley himself. We cannot forget the anxious state
of alarm in which his predecessors lived here, and
contrast it with the security of Lord Wellesley
amidst the feverish excitements of party. We re-
collect a very few years since, a dinner party of
fourteen, assembled at 'the Vice-regal Lodge, sud-
denly broken up, by a letter arriving to the then
Lord Lieutenant that Dublin was about to be attacked
by rebels. His Excellency hurried into town, ordered
the guards to be doubled, the garrison to be on the
alert, and instantly barricadoed all the avenues to
the city !! The present Lord Lieutenant can,
however, live secure among the people. The pe-
riodical reports of a general intended massacre of
the Protestants, which prevailed every Christmas
and Patrick's 'jay, and which deterred many a pious
soul from attending public worship, have now ceased
altogether, and, in fact, a considerable progress to-
wards the feeling as well as the fact of security, al-
ready pervades the public mind. The inference is
obvious. If the personal character and station of a
Lord Lieutenant can thus, in spite of a pernicious
influence in England, aiding and abetting exaspera-
tion and party here—if that station and character
can thus ameliorate our state of society, what may
riot be expected when enlightened councils here are
co-operated with at the other side, and that the Bri-
tish as well .as the Irish Government act together
for the pacification of Ireland Patriot.

The Lords Commissioners were the Loan Citsticet-
LOB, the Earl of Sues-mouslr, and Lord BEXLEY.
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the
Woolsack at a quarter to five o'clock.
Mr. DUNDAS and others from the Commons brought
up the Edinburgh Register House Bill, and the Union of
Parishes (Ireland) Bill.
Mr. Jcncx, from the Office of the Board of Trade, pre-
sented a Return of the Average Price of Grain for the six
weeks ending the 3d of June instant.
The Earl of ROSLYN moved that the consideration of
the Report of the Leith ?dice Bill, with the amendments,
be postponed to that day three weeks.—Agreeil to.
Lord KING presented petitions from the Unitarian Die-
senters, praying fur the repeal of the Test and Corporation
Acts. The Noble Lord said that the petitionera were
anxious for the repeal of all those unjust laws which now
divided the community into two classes, the oppressors and
the oppressed—they wished that no disabilities should lie
imposed by law on account of religious opinions. The pe-
titions were agreed to at the annual general Meeting, and
expressed the conviction of the petitioners that the blessing
of liberty ought not to be limited by qualifications, or clogged
by exceptions. The Noble Lord also presented a petition from
A great number of Protestant and Catholics residing in
Blackburne and its vicinity, praying for the repeal of the
Test and Corporation Acts, the abolition of Sinecures, the
restoration of the Church to its primitive purity, and a
variety of °thin- objects.—The petitions were laid on the
table.

Mr. WoonnousE brought pp a Bill to continue certain
presentments by constables.

GAME LAWS.

Lord SALISBURY moved that the Report of the Com-
mittee upon the Bill to legalise the sale of game be re-
ceived.

Lord WHARNCLIFFE said, AS be had not been in the
House during the former discussions on the subject, there-
fore he felt hound now to say, that this was a Bill he
could not support. It was constituted merely for the
sale of game, and though it contained a great deal
of the Bill he had had the honour of introducing into the
House, yet he never could consent to a Bill legalizing the
sale of game, as long as the qualifications were. such as
were to be found in the present Bill. The Bill gave
liberty of selling game merely to lords of the manor. Ne
man was at liberty, whatever his right of property,
to employ another person to kill his game, unliw'
that person was duly qualified; he was therefore
either obliged to kill it himself, or have a person
properly qualified for the purpose, so as to enable
bins to bring it to market. The Bill consequently gave a
monopoly of sale, and if a monopoly was given, it was im-
possible the market could ever be supplied, so as to diminish
the crime of poaching. The Noble Lord, therefore, not
only objected to the further progress of the Bill, but pledged
himself to oppose it in every future stage.
The LORD CHANCELLOR then moved, that the re-
port be read, leaving out the word " now" for the purpose
of inserting the words " these three months."
The Marquis of SALISBURY was far from restricting
the sale of game to lords of the manor. He had taken
every possible pains to give the liberty of selling to every
person coming within the qualifications of the Bill. There
was another Bill intended to be brought in, which might
not be unacceptable to some Noble Lords, giving to all who
possessed a certain quantity of land a right to sell. But,
for his own part, he would never bring in a Bill for the
Sale of Game, except for the purpose of diminishing the
offence of poaching. He considered the present Bill had
that view, and therefore he called on the Honie, in the
uame of humanity, to give their concurrence to it whilst
he persevered in moving the reading of the Report.
Lord WINCHELSEA thought his Noble Friend had
advanced no argument to show that by this Bill those who
possessed land had the unqualified right to sell their game,
and therefore he could not give his support to the measure.
Earl CARNARVON agreed with the Noble Lord Who
had just spoken, that every man possessing land should
have the right to sell his game. Ho could not see why it
should not be permitted to sell game like any other commo-
dity under certain restrictions. He was perfectly satisfied that
the present laws, by which the sale and purchase of game
were regulated, afforded no protection whatever to the
proprietors of game. He looked upon the right of protect-
ing game as a right of property, and that every right of
property should be protected to the utmost extent ; but
still he was convinced that the existing laws rather tended
to encourage than to diminish the vice of poaching.
Giving the right of sale to a man who had a
hundred pounds, and not to the man who possessed
ninety-nine, left the law precisely as it was to be found
to-day. Many attempts had been made to improve the
laws, but every person so attempting had failed, from
the complicated nature of the subject; yet he was sure that
within two or three Sesssions of Parliament from the pre-.
sent time, provided those attempts were continued, the
House would attain every point they could desire. If the
House rapproached the subject cautiously they would effect
every good purpose, but without that no remedial measure
could be adopted. He begged to state, in conclusion, that
be would give his aOrdial support to the Bill.
Lord MALMESBIJRY also looked upon the protection
of game as synonymous with the right of property. If the
House facilitated the sale of game, they decreased the en-
couragement of poaching. He rather thought the present '
Game Laws were more for the recreation of country gen-
tlemen than any thing else.—(Laughter.)—He could not
support his Noble Friend's Bill.
Lord DARNLEY said it had always appeared to bins
a monstrous anomaly that those laws should be in exist-
ence which were to be found in the statute-book,
and yet produce no effect. It was notorious, that though
the laws inflicted a penalty and a punishment for selling
game, that it was publicly sold both in this and in every
large town in the kingdom. He thought the present Bill
might be very much amended and beneficially improved,
and lie had no doubt that the Noble Baron (Wharnciffe)
would by the next Session bring forward a better measure.
The Noble Lord expressed his decided opinion that the le-
galizing the sale of game would tend more than any thing
whatever to diminish the crime of poaching.
The Marquis of SALISBURY considered the real ques-
tion before the House to be, not whether there should be
an act passed, more or less odious than the present Bill, but
whether the present Bill, if passed, would have the effect
of stopping, or of in any measure diminishing the piactice
of poaching ? If it would have that effect, he thought the
House was bound to pass it.
Strangers were then ordered to.withdraw, and the House
divided, when there appeared—
For receiving the Report, Contents
Non-contents 2O

Majority —4.
OCCUPATION OF SPAIN BY FRANCE.

On our re-admission we found Lord TEYNHAM on his
legs, asking a question of the Noble Viscount opposite
(Dudley) respecting the continued occupation of Spain by
the French troops.

Lord DUDLEY, in reply, said that when a Noble
Friend of his asked a question nearly similar, on a
former occasion, respecting a course which his Majesty's
Gcivernment intended to pursue, he told his Friend
that he must then decline giving any answer, that the time, in
fact, bad not come when such a disclosure ought to be
made. For reasons nearly similar, said the Noble Lord,
I must now also decline giving a distinct reply to the
Noble Lord's question. The subject is one of great i►u-
portance, and I can assure the Noble Lord and the House,
that it has not been left out of the view of Govern-

mut ; ana I can also assure him moat sincerely that in my
judgment, and in the judgment of my colleagues, any infor-
inatimathat we could now afford would do any thing but con-
tribute to promote the object of the Noble Lord. On that
ground, therefore, I must refuse to give any specific answer.
Lord TEYNHAM--There can be no doubt that the
occupation of Cadiz and the other Spanish ports by
France, is an indication of a hostile feeling, if not of an
Act of hostility, on the part of that country towards
England, and I am sure that the House will agree
with me in thinking that the deepest responsibility
rests with the Noble Viscount and all his Majesty's Go-

vernment.—(Hear, hear.)
Lord DUDLEY—When the day of explanation comes, I
have no doubt that it will appear that his Majesty's Go-
vernment have not been unmindful of their duty.—(Hear.)
BILL FOR REGULATING THE OFFICE OF LORD
HIGH ADMIRAL.

Lord GODERICH moved the Second Reading of the
Bill for transferring the powers of the Admiralty to the
Lord High Admiral, and for enabling his Council to act
in some instances for him. _

Lord MELVILLE supported the Bill.
Lord ELLENBOROUGH inquired whether any thing
Lad been done respecting the Droits of the Admiralty.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said that in the Com-
mission of the Lord High Admiral, the Droits of the Admi-
ralty were excepted in the same manner as had
been done in the case of Prince George of Denmark. The
only difference was, that in the present instance it was
declared in the body of the Commission itself that the
Lord High Admiral would not have the droits, whilst the
same thing was effected in the case of Prince George of
Denmark by a separate instrument.
Lord ELLENBOROUGH expressed his intention of
proposing a clause, making it necessary to have every ap-
pointment signed by the Lord High Admiral, counter-
signed by one of the Council.
The LORD CHANCELLOR would oppose any such
clause, because it would have the effect of altering the con-
stitution of the office. It should be remembered that the
Lord High Admiral was, although so nearly allied to his
Majesty, merely a subject, and, as such, responsible for any
act which he did in the execution of his office. The
same situation had been held by James the Second.—
The late much-lamented Duke of York, who was the
heir apparent, did various seta for which he alone was re-
sponsible.
Lord ELLENBOROUGH was not at all disposed to go
back to the time of James the Second for any precedent
whatsoever. There was, however, a very material distinc-
tion between the situation of the Duke of York at that
period and the present Lord High Admiral. That Duke
of York, at the time he was appointed to the situation,
was not Heir Presumptive to the Throne. It was true he
afterwards became so ; but there Wag a very great differ-
ence, lie was prepared to contend, between continuing a
person in a situation where he had behaved well, and ap-
pointing that person at first to the situation. If he, how-
ever, required any reason beyond another for proposing
the clause to which he alluded, it would be found in what
fell from the Noble Viscount (Lord Melville) upon the sub-
er.t of the unlimited power reposed in the Lord High Ad-
ru3ral upon all subjects connected with the administration
of the, Affairs of the navy. It ought to be remembered
that there was no way in which the Heir Presumptive to
the Throne could be checked in any abuse of his
power, unless thrd:uzh a Bill of Exclusion ; and he always
considered that in such cues prevention was better than
punishment. He did not mean to impugn the appoint-
ment of a Lord High Admiral. He knew it Vas a very
popular appointment, and he was convinced the Royal
Duke would receive the highest satisfaction is contributing
utmost support to the good of the public service. When
the Ministers thought it right to recommend his Majesty
to- make the appointment, it was the part of the Noble
Duke to accept it under the influence ; but he still thought
the responsibility ought to be reposed in more than one
person ; and under that impression, he would consider the
propriety of recommending some such clause as he had
mentioned when the Bill went into a Committee.
The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be
_ committed on Monday next.
MISREPRESENTATION,

DELAMERE was anxious to correct a mistake
which bail gone abroad respecting his vote en the Corn
Eill. He did not, as had been stated, vote for the amend-
ment of the Noble Duke, but, on the contrary, was an
anxious supporter of the Corn Bill.
AMENDMENT OF THE CRIMINAL LAWS.
TENTERDEN moved that the House should re-
solve into a Committee on the Criminal Law Amendment
Bill.
After a few wards from Lord ELLENBOROUGH, the
Bills went through a Committee.
Their Lordships then adjourned at Half-prat Sit o'Clock.

ROUSE OF COMMONS, THURSDAY, JUNg l 4
Shortly after the Speaker had taken the Chair, th!a
Usher of the Black Rod appeared at the bar, and required
;he attendance of the Commons in the House of Lords.
The Speaker and several of the Members then withdrew
and IN-ere absent for several minutes. Upon their return,
the Spe&ker announced that his Majesty's Assent had been
given to th,-. Turnpike Act, and to several Private Bills.
COR,'ORATION AND TEST ACTS.
Mr. H. G. sm".ITH presented a petition from Colchester,
for the Repeal of the above Acts. Similar petitions were
presented from four plan's in Cornwall by Mr. Pendarves ;
from a place in Suffolk, ;4, Sir W. Rowley ; from a
Congregation assembled in Devoohire.square, London, by
Alderman Wood ; from Congregations in Wild-street,
Lincoln's-inn ; Somers Town ; Blantiford-street, Man-
chester.square, and different other places in the Metropolis.
Mr. BROWNLOW presented a petition from the
Weavers of Lisburn, praying for relief.
Mr. LYTTLETON moved for returns of the quantity
of malt used by brewers within the lest sews years, spe-

tifying the quantity in each year.
Mr. CHAPLIN presented a petition from Lincoln
prayit7, for a duty on foreign wool.
Sir JOSEPH YORKE presented a petition from a me-
dical g„tieoan named Hargrave, praying that a part of
the Regent's Nlrk might be turned into a botanical gar-
den, to be called 1-I.lradisus Anglicanus, and that the pe-
titioner should be api;...ointed to superintend the garden,
with a salary of 5001. a yeaa:•—(Laughter.)
The SPEAKER suggested {Lit, as the prayer of the
petition contained a demand for eats,')', the petition must
be considered irregular: it WAS therefore withdrawn..
Mr. W. SMITH presented a petition from ‘'.l individual
Awed William Parker, complaining of :the conduct of his
Majesty's servants at the Cape of Good Hope, and request-
ing to Si? allowed to prove his charges at the bar.
Mr. DAVENPORT presented a petition from Bethnal-
green, complaining of the low state of wages.
Mr. VESEY FlTZGERA,LDpreeented a petition from
the county of Clare, against the Salmon Fishery Bill.
ELECTION PETITIONS.
Mr. M. A. TAYLOR rose tc, icing forward his motion
oil the subject of the mode of balloting for Election Peti-
tions. He assured the House, that in laringLng forward
the subject he was not influesced by any desire to em-
barrass the Government, but in order that Hon. Gentle-
men might turn their attention to the at4ect during the
recess. He thought the number of Members named on
Election Committees too large. He was one of these who
believed that the douse of Comrnons dill pot rePent the
people; but it must be admitted tLat !here were
many Gentlemen of high honour and unimpcached
integrity in that House, ata it was a great- degrada-
tion to those Gentlemen to say thet it was necessary
to appoint forty-nine from amongst *Pi to insure
impartiality on an election petition, where every
Member was sworn. In the next Session of Par-
liabsent, therefore, ha should move that the number of'
Members appointed to Committees on Election Petitions
should be reduced.—(Hear, hear, hear.),--He also
objected to the system of appointing nominees, for