The Sun.
London, England, 1820-07-07 00:00:00

'oreach of official duty, or any action personally
censurable. fie would state what the course was.
The course wag 10 employ Mr. Cooke, a Gentle-
man with whom he was not acquainted, having
never seen him but once, but whose purity was
generally acknowledged, and whose gravity fitted
him for the office.—(A laugh on the Opposition
side.)—He thought purity and gravity very essen-
tial requisites for such a task ; the Gallant Gene-
ral anti his friends about hint !right perhaps think
that a yonng man would have been better adap!
ed to make discoveries in a case of this kind.--
(A laugh.)—.The Hon. Gentleman had said, that
Nr. Cooke knew nothing of foreign languages—
this he thought, was at least sufficient to show
that he was sent to conduct an inquiry steadily,
on sound and established principles, and nelt to
intrigue and insinuate himself into secrets. But
this was not wanted to secure him front such suspi-
cions ; his unblemished character for a long series
of years, anti his professional reputation, needed
no defence, but were, on the coot rat y, a guarantee
fir ,he inttl!rity of any ineestivoinn entrusted to
material ground fur delay at this moment was that
they 'night, ht fore they-gave all opinion, see the depositions,
nod hoow the forms that had been adopted to glumd them
agaimst error and misinterpretation, and the manner in which
they had been obtained. He wOubt pledge himsemostlf to the
"liaise that the e,iderce collected had been guardey
taken; that the witnesses were cannoned as to repeating any
thing nomt hearsar,that they were t'arned against entertain-
ing ally hope of advantage or reseat it, and that they were
Wade sensible tit the re.ponsiltility they encounter, and
ally
their liahilitv to be called hereafter to make good their
gations in the most solemn marine). He was quite ready to
pledge his character to the [locust that the service evil!' Which
the Cominission was occupied could not have been executed
under stricter guards or:by more honourable men. And
thelie
bell. ved the Gallant firing-al would see hereafter, when
case came fully and naturally before him, and that every one
woutd see, that wk greater respect could leave been shown
to the principles of, justice than on this occasion. He hoped
be had rritelled the.charge as far as it inferred any official
impropriety, and he bolted snit more strongly that he had
done away anc effect that might have been produced ag 'hist
the individual character either of the Vice-Chan-eltor,
of
D 1 r. Cooke, or of the eminent Solicitor who had been mil-
Voyed in this inquiry. The Hon. Mover had mentioned the
expellees-of the Commission. He could assure him that in this
as in other points, there was no disposition to conceal any
h,og from the House. As vet nurse had ht inem red except
what were merely incidental to travelling. What further com-
pensation should he granted most he brought before the.
House for sanction, in the same manner as it would be called
upon to meet the costs of bringing torward the evidence for
cer NLtjesty, and conducting her defence. He did not con-
eive it to be atcessaiy to go twitter into the question at
present. At the proper moment the Hutt. Gentleman would
find that his Majesty's Ministers de,ired to make
he no mystery
of any part of the transaction whatever ; but protested
against this mote of proceeding: it gave a question front
• which it might of all others to rte banish d, an air of party,
seas very unbec, ming —(clear 1)—It was inconsistent
with the nature of the case, anti with all measures of the hint'',
that the zeal of particular Members should bier, y them into the
midst. of the subject, and persist it) dragging it forward piece-
- meal in collateral rots, instead of wa,ting to take it up fairly
and wholly according to the order in which it presented it-
self --(Hear.)—lt was necessary fur the
hoen characteW r f t
thc
non, rot to coon tenance so irregular a course. he
matter came properly before them, they might. then look if
t outdation on which Ministers built, and the course they
had were lia'de to animadversion ; but he protested
Agnin against toil inversion, by which it was attempted to
begin with ptitting.Minsters upon their trial for sorne•colla-
teral pewit, instead of investigating the great and important
question involved in the main transaction itself. All that
Ite,askodt tbe: House was, to:suspend. its judgment on the
'critrilitct of Ministers, as it had been called upon to do out the
cli,trps against the Queen. Let Gentlemen keep their minds
lii fo, from nupre-ssion ns possible ten both. Let them nut be
induce.; tee matte this a indit.cal and-party Inisiness.-7(Hvar!)
_ rat ant' rate would resist being dragg'e,! by premature ino-
explanation on the general

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in defence of individuals of honourabie character, u su, er'
. them either to he misrepresented, or to use far le,s c,igent
arguments to protec• them, than could at a future period he
- adduced. On these grounds he Should propose the previous
• question, and he hoped this would he a warning to the gal- I
lant General and- to those inclined to the same line,
not to allow their zeal tie get the better of their understand-
Ile trusted they wttuld allow the business to take its
natural course, and when the whole was fairly under notice,
bring forward their objections in an intelligible manner, and
not in' a way to lower Parliament in the eyes of the COunti y
and of Eu.ope. He trusted that they would consent to deal
with the momentous question t i.at would pi-obably be so soon
reg,alarly before ilient.on principles of candour and justice;
anti not come beforehand with little motions to try to get
some advantoze over Ministers, as if it were their conduct
that was the principal object at stake, and not the important
consideration of a Queen's guilt or innocence, and a Nation's
interests.—(Hear. hear!)—All that he asked fur Ministers
was, that their conduct might be examined at the proper
ttnie, when they could fully explain themselves. Ile con-
eluded by moving the previous question.
Mr. CaFavy, notwithstanding the warning and
protests of the Noble Lotd, was of opinion that
the proposition of the Gallant General was not
only just, hot that this was the proper time to
urge it. A Bill was in progress in another place,
which called the Queen ice heinous names, without
giving her an opportunity to refute, at the time
they Were urged, the allegations against her.
Theta the Gallant General • said, let me see the
Milan foundation for these proceedings. Even it
the Green Bag were never opened, there was a
good Parliamentary ground for the motion. It
was qui'e new to the Constitution that the King
was to haunt any particular Subject abroad with
spies, was to move a "foreign Court, as Austria,
nod then take up proceedings 'against the party.
Itwas more so when such a person as the Vice-
Chancellor was sent to Organize this system'of
espionage ; and still more as inflaming the
vindic-
tive feelings of the Sovereign. They, had a right
to have this Vice Chancellor before them, and to
laaee this Commission produced, lie was a dis-
turber of the public peace. Every thing had been
settled in 1814, and Ministers, who were parties
to that arrangement, could not have been the au-
thors of this imptiry. It was then this officious
person who had kept alive the vindictive pas-
sions of the King against her Majesty,--(General
cries of " Order.")—[lle contended that the
Vice-Chancellor was answerable for the evils of
the present proceedings, and went on to make
other charges of the same kind, which led to
calls of Order !" and wil.ich we do not feel our-
selves warranted to report in the strong language
in which they were couched.] lii effect, he im-
puted the contents of the Green Bag to Austria,
lawyers, and spies ; and argued, that as Govern-
ment had been for 12 months acquainted with
them without taking any steps, they must have
been considered as of a private nature, and not
furnishing sufficient evidence to criminate the
Queen. The mode of proceeding, he contended,
was in violation of the laws ; and he further as-
serted, that his Majesty must come into Court in
the same situation as any private individual seek-
ing a divorce, with clean bands.—(Strong mani-
festations of disapprobation.)—He repeated the
expression afterwards, and quoted the Saviour's
words, " Let him who is guiltless throw the first
stone." He said that he hoped there would be
no recrimination, and ethic(' that many of them
bad facts which would have descended with them
to their grave, which must now be produced,—