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cease' believe will not be continued; but the 'ac.
that licensing of that house Is not in Bows-street,
it is in the parish_. of St. March).
Arc you accoainted with 'any public-hotises, the
nototions character of Which, Fur the resort of
thieves, is such, that there ere strong rooms in
which•they rain be confined when they are Seized
by the officers of the police I—There was a public
house in Bow street, where all the prisoners were
eartird for security before they went to gaol; but
far inure•than two years past a place of that kind
has been providet; within the office at Bowsstreet,
ands there is no place'of confinement of that kiinl
in Bow-street now, or in the ueo.lbourhood of
any of the police offices. •
Do you know that the public-houses in the city
are shut up at a much earlier, hour, and that
greater care is taken that they should he so shut,
'than' in this part of the metropolis 1---In the
western parts of the metropoli', all public-houses
are required nominally to be shut at eleven o'clock,
except the watering-houies for the liackoey-
coaches, and those in the immediate vicinity of
Public places, which are open later ; but theie are
perpetually restrained by the magistrates iii every
possible way.
Is it not universally tree that no houses `are
open, either as public houses or gin-shops,- dur-
ing the whole or the best part of the night, ex-
cept in that confined district,' or for those limited
purposes you Wye mentioned I—Never, without
the immediate check of the magistrates, when-
ever they know its
Do you know that the proprietors of the hack-
ney-coaches have presented a petition to the Lord
Mayor of London, or have they presented a simi-
lar one to your office, praying that those houses
might be shut up, for that they were productive
of great injmy to them —1 hale b941,11(),5u1dl pe
th ion, but have frequently heard (runt- the pro-
prietors of hackney-coaches that they should have,
no objection to such an arrangement.
What then would-be the ttbjection to enforcing
the law, by shutting :op. those houses.l—l 'lase
endeavoured to enforce the la Win that respectraud
frequently check the keepers of those houses; When
they have. applied for a license, it has heel) my,
opinion that it would be better there should be
tissue of the M—better for the horseS, better for
the melt, and better for the public who seek the
accommodation of the coaches. .
Then,if sncl>y is youraltinioni and that, of your
brother magistrates it; your own district.,
,there ap•-•
pears to• be no reason why: the law should not be
carried into effect I—l see no reason; and have 's-
wish that itahould be ; though the Vicinity of the
theatres makes some difference.
, 35.4 not trite tin‘t untay.of the, keepers of the
lowest order of brothels. in .the metropolis take
out a• license for selling :rifle, and are thus enabled
to keep.open those houses ?—Formerly, the wine
licenses by the Excise wereaobtaiated, without the
intervention of the magistrates ; by alate law,
person must carry a certificate .of license by the
magistrates, before he .can obtain one for wine.
I have never known a slew license granted to
house of the description named in the question,
since that arrangemeut has taken place.
Do you not know that in point of tact many of
the houses, such. as lave-been described, hold
licenses .granted before the lave passed, and who
annually come • fur u lenewal-I—With respect to
low brOthels,.certainlynot ; but with regard to a
higher kind of hotels, kept for the reception of
men and women, for purposes which one,cannot
be Mittel to, I think they may-have beet; continued;
but in uo instance, within my knowledge, in any
division in which I have acted.
, Arc not the persons who principally keep. the
hoUses, sucit as have been tieseribed, nOtOrioes
thieves whosheve " retired," according to 'their
own phrases " from doing. business, 'weenie. the
tittles are hard ?"—1 think such a man would never
have got a license of any kiwi whatever front the
Magistrates, at any time or hi any placee •
You mein) to•aay, that to the best of your belief
theme are no (louses of 'the description referred. tO
in the question held by any persons /--sa.l.llave
known no persons of that character ever receive a
license, unless a Triie-fighter is considered as
within the description; I have knotin two ur
three of thoseanen-who keep public-houses.
You know 110 one answering that description
who at present holds a license ?as-Indeed,' do not;
and if I did, it it Was within any fair: influence of
mine, he would not be licensed next September.
You stated yesterday, that pains were taken at
the' public offices tottscertain the character of per-
suns petitioning for licenses ; and that the persona
so petitioning brought with them the recotumend'a
ation, either of tire clergyman or two resident
housekeepers ?—The statute requires that to ob-
tain a new license, • •.
Are you aware that it -is stated by. Mr. Coigns
holm "to, be within his knowledge, abet those
recommendations aie got by the beadle ofahe pa'r.
rish for a- fee of half a crown, who gets the, sig-
nature of the clergyman have nor the least
idea that any clergyman would certify,such a -mat.
ter upon stich a mode:of application.
Is.it a matter of much solicitation, the obtain-
ing those recommendations front 'third persons to
the ,rmigistreteai—ti hey are extremely pressistga
indlvideals curry it on elmost as a 114npu,s ; I have
beard the merits discussed, at the,justices' meet'-
ing,•on a single license for int boor.

You stated in your evidence yesterday, that you
'thought it would be adviseable if.snnm regulations
iVere establistred for shutting up gin-shops at nit
early hour of the night ; you not.thiuk- a simi-
lar advantage Would arise it'giu-shops were pre-
vented selling liquor every Sunday morning before
church' time ?----This'might. countenanee,tbeir
minty hut every reitgaint on•tte. trade (-47 a gin-
shop would be beneficiai,.talti I could 'wish that no
spirits were sold - very small .quantities, except.
,to persons ,vito went Omagh the: general . tap-
room of'an ale-house,.properly so ft.:idled, to. the.
bar : 1 lave;done every thing for twenty yeliro,-
that I could do, consistent witira just .regard, foi
the operty, both in my police appointment arid
in ilk capacity of a OeitintY;' ittagiStrate, and al'.
,most-all- the MsgistrateS'haye the. same view. nttii
feeling on ihe:aubjeet, nainely 'to roeveii!Mliygin,
shop., not being au ale-house, to be kept.open.
You say you have done all that lay in your powcr

hare been-26 years engaged hi that endeavour ;
are you not of, opinion that gin shops e're more
numerous now than at any former period )—No ;
every opportunity of suppressing thenithe magis,
traces have availed themselves of 2 when they see
a ptiblic-holise turned. into a gin-shop, they insist
upon their wholly changing the features of the
houseeatid going back into the ostensible appear-
ance of a beer-house ;- universally, at evely li-
censing meeting that 1 have attended, the having
t tvo doors, n' bar door itintta public-house door, is
ohje,cted to ; ,and licenses are withheldl to the
amount of twenty at a time, till that complete re-
form has taken place. I speak particularly of the
Holborn division.
Do you believe that practice to be 'confined to
the Holborn division, or to be general the
city of Westminster it is not so much "attended to.
'Are you aware of.*fuy public houses inliondon
tvith two doors, the One for,entry,and the other
•by which they go out, passing by a bar, where-
they take their glass of gin, deposit their money,
and take their departure ; the consequence of
which has been, that on a Sunday morning,..be-
tween halt-past six and eight o'clock, an. oppo-
site neighbour counted 165 persons :pass, through
one house think it probable ; but it that was
made a formal complaint of trithe justices at any
licensing meeting, the licence would be withheld
till the building vas reformed, or denied altoge-
ther.
The object of.the construction of the gin-shops
in the metropolis is to have but.one room where
the liquor is retailed, and n small .apartment in-
side, where the family live; in many instances
a it h do second. stoi v, solely devoted to the sale of
Spirits ; should you license a house of that descrip-
tion- and characer, if applied for ?---Never; I never
saw a pretence to get a' license fur u new Itousel
that had not the capacities of an'alehousa con-
spicAou,ly bdonging to it,
opportunities have the magistrates offl.3e.
laining the form of the hogs;: ;' do they visit -it be-
fore then. license it ?—.l do not :know what,, they
do in other divisions, but fpr...ruany: years-past
have gone with the chaionau of .the Holborn di-
vision round to every new • hoitse:Oliat wlas
thine(' for, to exami:x into the loctil'etrcituialaucev,,
and many,other Magistrates do the satire.
Is there any- regular inspection its to the form,
of the gin-houses, by tvliich the proprietors would,
be prevented;after they'limfobtained
from changing the form 'at dead! convenience
they do, if they tom theni ;into gin-shops, they
hear of it the 'text time; and generally it is.an ab-
solute reason for denying the .license!- a second
year.

'Has that been often done havealways done
it as tar as I•eutild, anti many other magistrates
have the same feeling. i• •
. Do. you mean to state that noale-h01!.5e en,, be
converted into a tin-shop, without
coming to the magistrate i—The .high con.itabie
is ;always in attendance upon the magistrates;
we never begin a licensing without the high Can-
stable and petty constables at the division be-
ing convened ; and we
.question them (on oath,
too; which May he • extra-judicial), whether any
house is miSeonducted in their respective districts,
bath as to general manageMent, or as having been
convet ted into gin-shops. Those that arc pointed
out undergo a candid examination at au adjourn-
Ment day, generally a fortnight afterwards; and
I believe this is the practice in other divisions.
The magiatrates attend to this duty with the ut•
must diligence.
:Have yott ill doubt that the great prevalence
.of those gin-shops contributes, more than any
other Cause you can name; to the. early corroption
of both sexes ?-7I think them mischievous to the
last degree, in every point of view.
Have you any doubt that, from those shops not
havinglap...rooms, persdns reputably dressed; Wo:
men part ithilarly, are intlneed to' go there to dritili
spirits, who would be ashamed to pass through
room which was crowded with iuen ?—That is the
teason -why I wish
.the -opportunity of obtaining
spirit's' in small quantities should be through a
public room.
‘Vhat is the course you pursne in 3our'diViSion
to limit the increase, or: to put an end ttrgirt•
shopi ?-13y requiring the high constable to pre-
sent at the licensing meetings all the houses- that
are carried on as mere spirit shops distinct troni
vict houses; and by suppressing them
• .
ever, we find-an opportunity. •
• Do you believe he is faithful in the executioa of
that Order ?—They have'been so, I think in ge-
neral there are ttgreat.number, in the part of
the town where they ,most prevail, .suspended oq
the first day of licensing, to the amount perhaps
al twenty at a time, and the• bricklayer and car-
penter are set to 'work. to alter theta, and: the
painter to put up the chequers, which is the sign
Of beer, and the house carries another form : we
very often' find theta the .next year gtiiug op th©
old way, and then, without giving them an op.,
pottunity pf.• explanation, deny the licenses; but
generally the High Constable gives theta warning
beforehand.

Is .it not an :obligation by-;law, that persons
should take out a beer licence before they can get
from. the liscise.a spirit licence ?—Yes.
h not .that in-many .cases only nominal, and
no beer is sold ?--When a new licence is applied
for, for. a tavern
,orcotie. e.house, or.liotel or eat:,
ingrhouse, if it happenato be in a neighbourhood
where we could suspect it might .be converted
into :a- gin-shop, from the failure of their presei4
speculation, we have of late years introduced an
,endorsement upon the back of the licence ; that
that licence is granted for a colfee-houset or iyhat-
ever it may be, upon condition that it. is used al
sneb only, and not to be converted- into a shop
for the sale of spirits; we do that because cif -the
injury, if an assignment .was to. take place, to the
parson who might purchase it, not: knowing the
eiltklition imposed at the time of granting it.
You have no doubt that the practice alluded 'tit
takes place certainly does, and it requires:
extreme caution to -prevent it, othersvite the mis-
chief would be greater than it is ; , and, after all,
the practice prevails in- a considerable degree.
I-lace not the. licenses increased the law-year'?
*-7ThesliCensei in the-neighbourhood of London
increase-just as tbemew buildings increase .10#
houses arelinilt, tbere 'will be one Ortsvc,:iicetises
granted, and halt a dO2PII

CORONER'S INQUESI4g

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An inquisition was heard 'before TH6I AVSTII
LING, Esq. Coroner forMiddlcsex, upon the hot
of Lydia Ashley, spinstir, at the'Six Bella rah'
house, New Brentrord, in the parish ofilanwell
who died very suddenly on. Saturday nightlast,
a house Which belonged to herself and her sistt
Susaunalk Ashley, in dew, Brentford.•
The Inquisition lasted six hours, in consequenc
of some suspicions which arose in 'the minds 0
the Jury, in regard to the cause of the death o
deceased. . • •
, • . • .
Thomas Street, of New l3rentford, said, that he knew th
deceased 21 yeips pies-ions td hes' death, her father had (seri
&plasma two years, she lived with her sister,. and a mail
servant, sometimes he had heard the els of- sourdees.and
.represeuted.tu the guardians of Ihe deceased, thaVt-110"
a continual disagreement bet Ween them, the guardians too:
no notice of what he said, and he had since had ins connectitit
with the family. ,
Eliiabeth Wright, the datighler of thr 'Sexton 't r'
Brentford Church, said,she had known the deceased for luau/
feats, as she always attended Church on Sdliti.t'• ,
and.evining, she had sere' al times visited lorr and,lier sister,
she has -seen the servant, Elizabeth Matthews, use the 4le•
ceased very ill frequently, and knock her down safes;.
could not say on what day it was she saw it. She had sow?
coo cersation with the deceased on- Sunday night week, she
cumplaioed of a violent pain in the back part of her heads
and or the ill-t re:seinen tof Elizabet is Matthews.
Susannah Ashley, sister of the deceased, said she never saw'
Elitaheth Matthews use the deceased ill at any time, nor dill
she herself ever use any s iolencr. towards her, The deceased
was Of a very weak capacity, and would somethoes take op 3
knife to stab tier, and being reswined front rasing it, wodldel
wursier: She dues not remember the deeeased consplaiviii;
of a pain in her head before her death. Friday last they lord,
some peen pease and pork for dinner • the afteruhuo
tie
deceased was sick, and threw some while pease Willer stomach,
she differed with her for eating raw pvisiev.and 4dr'" b:r
to
go to bed ;as she grew worse she 'went to bed, hill: kwit•••
ness) bent suun: tea up to her and souse gruel. Awast
ht
time she took her up Come more. teat she drank freviy,
Jay
thiwn on her left side amt said she was sleepy; she came down
st tirs, and in about a quarto of: an hour after she bent the
servant op stall s to see .how she was'; she .heard her awe"'
very twin, she ran up stairs and ftiund the'deceased dead.
Cie-stioned by the Jury, silo said that she Iset SPod
; she did nut think, before sh,: ;,,a, wad,- that SPb
was dangeroiisly ill ; and, alter she Was deal, she ti;a not thlidit

-.alley 0414 dn'aiirgood fOr• her. •
When she tirst went to bed, she gani her some fliithor6o4
which sheigul in the twase alwajs, being bawls
sn: jea 44;t hiliuu couipluii,t. ' y • • •
Janirc Rutherford, surgeo.i. of New llrcitt lord, sli"1,,";
evtitatic,i' the body of the. and tin • ::I,Pe#c"t "e"
matt s a yi.ience upult 1;0dt,..' iiti.
1,11; deceased was lubjea Ina it i.v;o: ,T;a;eiii sue'
• '4eo a hi', there being. no marks of violence .snateva illl7
vital part of thebudy Could have oce/.3l,ned net itcallt•
—The following Verdiet was r,turncti. by 0,;; Jury
7--"4 is thL opinion. of-the July, (Lac the tle-
c eased i4,conse-quence •ot violent ovtr-
" retching' trout itodach."
Yesterday' al) Ingitest ‘‘:as held at die .(4,lcenit°
Head puhlie-honse, Lower 'sling ton, 1A1()"1.:
STIRLING, Esq.on the body ivt ti re,pect"7
dressed (name Unknown);
,wlio Was ft',4,/17
drowned on Wednesday int.rning in the. Sew L'.lld
11#1, near, Cannonbury-blidge.—Edward 'Wallis;
‘ralkrilatr to the Newltiver Company, st""I
ck
1•:e was Wa:kirrr, between six and oeccil
ti!...! morning of the 28 1, instant, alolig bc b4l a
River, near Cannopbury-hridge'-.
saw the t.; tying .in the, water, ; lie g°'r svoass,
sistance, an:. him vat of the wafer; h-d for
quite dead, and appeared to have been 'I"
some days.
The Jury returned a verdict--'
ed iu the water of the New River."

drown"

SCOTCH IA.NKItt3PT.S

SEQUESTRATIONS.

EXAMINATIONS, DIVLDENDS,,4G
Creditors of Neil Copk, inercbant and sliip.oworr,re, Grey
nock,
.meet in the office of NVilliam Kerr,
September, •nt I. • •
Creditors of Mackay, Skirvinr,,inrni. Co. or ?Tircift .
Th., :Old Clit`lols4”

phaat, and Co. hat-mitinfurt is, Editing/10/ , se
NYest.Wesnyss, meet. in ..the Royal In:haute Coffl°7ll I
'Edinnurih, feth Septernber, '
Creditors Of Janws Dalaiel, nterehant,. Thornhill; Done
,fries.e4bite, meet in Grieve's 04celsuuse Duo/frit/0/ '.i4h '4''
/,
temher at 1
s . ~ tin
Creditor. of,James F'inlay o , erchanii Ottirgoii'; n'" .
the office of Jams Kerr, tins! trustre,n3)
there,-126,SePt"'"'I'
catoeiretrlee,.dhitooturse,Opf Georg and
:,.ileophtenn2Alii.r.rn,oattr,liTe .171'"14:esen!
dealers in lime at tilt!! e Feckfictan, meet in NJ"'
pt,Crr..!ti,itors of ..7,..0f4
.455041; 4 b.rin...pwacrd ii.ll,l.co...i_.l:ll,:,r(licer:
" I "t-un-CraiK, wet iis the °lnce ~f li.wuSont,►P '
Dundee, RN Septensbet;-at I. ' ' ' e North
Creditors of Alexander Sanderson,. late arne, c'illiiiips,
tVi.1144._ _Stseets Edinburelr, meet i:s ;lir, Othcr Mob'''.
W. S. au Ine'e-siluare," 1 Ith Septcaibei, gi 1. - , ,

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DISTRIBuTroN'OP• ricTZF:INIONt• of ger
,TlkeSapplso, for the /ilollytdn Tuesdaptite gi daY, •acr,
t"Mberineitts!ut Na, 4, Clelurnes Inn. Recalls iaWL I '
every knesday ana'SattniinOor.thrre -months. ~ 1.1,e q•I
The Southampton, for the Elinor Ann, cliTrw`lil,,Ni!ls
day ot,Sopteml!er next, ,at• No. 4,, Cietpo,t 4 '111).. Pnt"'
v9thinstant, -Ist N0..13 ,
same place, every Tuoiday 'and SatUrday, (Jr thrte;;liday til*
Rattler. and-Recruit, for‘thelMolly, 001' t •ostcr•
Recalls same place, ', •
every hie:clay and Thursday, It"!
months,
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BIRTH. o E-sq• Mr%
'ln Grosvenor-street, the Lady of Paul WOW- 7
of a daughter.
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1 On Monday last, at Franilinghain, Suffolk, et5",,1,',7,,,i. this'
idEiaislu::g.bltii teir.t Solicitor,uotuf
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slaitexftletaditl ea:nit:o,l4rib! etWilLi tiroltioaisulj a.
IN' ke' yl'ag, 74' .ot"ur'..-441:;1::
:sllelduar:aaty,sas.t.GeSt.oArlgat;:aret's, Westminster as
ekt
Esq. of his' M4esty's Got trial Audit-Otlice, tojElit3l
daughter of Colonel Arthur Owen. '
duly daughter of Francis Lori: Zkveforr-
&ape, Esq. of Oloverini-Hall, Suffolk► t,ils""c quit.
Wednesday last, at Hnniton, William Thorpe, Ilicitor, Of
gnrntsihkot, d'utoter of Courtuey GidleYs jsq' 5.°
that place. h rrlptcr
late of Northatupton.
,tin 27th, at Aston, Mr. Joseph' 13utterwort.:9 iollise
and boalwAler, of iligh-street, nirtoinghanis' " Mi
f4i l'illts Fiddiin, 'eldest daughter of -Mr. Fiddt3n' . •
sann. day., Mr. Ftichavd Itedit, hookseller, of ritj~t•~,t►c
Hatupton.sti eel, both a sante ,place.
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Ou the. nth, at •Woodfurcl, near Salisburh- ills Rev, ,ifi:-Fits.
Wynd.hatv,LL.ll
-7.. Rector of Cortbn-Disdiapt, aOO o'ilthe or,
pause, Sotuefsetdiire, add one Of the Prebendaries a...
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Stoke, ileur Biistol, Willielinitta Ebtabetli
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