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London, England, 1829-04-03 00:00:00

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, owing his name
list by the Clerk, came forJ,:ard to address thellouse.. Oa
Thursday last he had presented to their Lordships &peti-
tion from the parish of St. John, Worcester, against .ant

further concessions of pry.4-ical powerto the Roman Ca-
tholics ; and a Noble Lort:, -had then thonght proper to
cnmment in terms of great ,verity, oh the manner in
which that petition had been proc., and on the conduct
of a Reverend Gentleman, whom !-ccttM e aithe prig-

chipqaul4engienttiot
the fparctocsulrviiniig it.
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Hbee%4edtafte'ldt his
sedobt
Lord; and he had now received a letteieerum the indivi-
dual whose conduct had been impugned, dseyingthe im-
putations which had been cast upon him. r;i•--, individual
had requested him to read his letter to their L.,4)1434ipie .
The Duke of WELLINGTON rose to c per
Earl BEAUCHAMP hoped that the Nobi,
not object to his reading the letter.
The Duke of WELLINGTON—I ens willi
Noble Earl chooses, to stay-here all night. ,:Perst.e. -
have no objection to hear the letter reed; but the form.
the House, as there is no motion before it, render it hight,
irregular.--(Hear, hear.)
Lord ROLLE—Then I beg to move in'adjournittents
—(" Hear," and " No.")
The Duke of WELLINGTON—I am sure that if *a
Noble Earl is going to present a petition, or if he is geiPg.
to make a motion upon a petition, the House will listen:to.;
him with pleasure; but. if the Noble Earl has no motion tO.
make, but is only going to read a letter, then I mutt sal '
that it will be much more regular to proceed at once Withy
other petitions.
Earl BEAUCHAMP—There is now a notion to ide',
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jour" before the House, and so. I have a right to go on.e-e,
The Rev. Gentleman, whose letter I are going to read, 'y
writes as follows—(cries of "No, no") ;—" lam sorry*,
say that I perceive by the Newspapers that ohiservatiotirr''
were made on my conduct in the House of Lords"
Lord Viscount GODERICH—The Noble Earl .is nor
clearly out of order. .Though he may have a right to read
a letter to tre, he certainly cannot, conformably with long',
istablished practice, read to us a letter commenting on se.
speech which the writer says was delivered in this House.'
by one of your Lordships.—(Hear.)....-Every man has &
right to justify_ his conduct; but no one, ever took the
method Of justifying himself before your Lordsisil,e whi4l
is now attempted to be taken by this Rev. Gentleman.--e
(Hear.) . •
Earl GREY apprehended that nothing could be nor°
irregular or more irreconcileable with the ordinary-course',
of their Lordships' proceedings than the line .of COndU.o6
which had just been Adopted by the Noble Earl.
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order had been recently made to prevent the.' tatiiitltnool
assemblages, which sometimes take place- round the table;
when Noble Lords had.petitions to present; end a regula•
time, which was new, at least here, had been frained for
the greater order of their proceedings, by which it Was di'
rected that every Peer who had a letitiOn to pr•esest
should, for the convenience of the House, put hie natnl
down upon paper, and be called upon by the clerk in hi'
turn. That regulation was not intended, to give any, per
ion who had put his name down upon the list an °plebe
tunity for making a motion upon any other subjeet ; less°
of 'all for producing a letter commenting on whit tbe
writer had read as passing among their Lordships, to the
interruption of those proceedings of which the greater re,
gularity was intended to be established.—(Hear,
He hoped the Noble Earl would not persevere. any further
at present in attempting to make on explanation, .:which I
could easily find an opportunity of making upon anotket, •
night. The Noble Earl, conformably to the order Odle
House, had no right to insert hie name on the petitho
list, as be had uo petition to present. It was for the ensv
venience of the House to Fee that regularity was pr
served; and it would be a palpable contravention
their recent order, if Noble Lords could insert their
names on the petition list for objects so widely differ'
eat from it, and for purposes inconsistent at any %jolt"
with the regularity of their proceedings, He, therefore,
hoped that the Noble Earl would reserve his expltutsti°
for another time, when he would be equally in a conditi°'
to give it, and that he would not prevent the House °II
proceeding instantly to discuss the important Bill vell'ecie
was then before it.—(Hear.)—As lie was then urn, l'ee
legs, lie would shortly advert to some of the observit,-,
which had fallen from the Noble Baron on the er(tee
bench. He could assure the Noble Baron that lie 1101.11,0
one of those who would concur in any indecent exehlit
of the petitions of the people. So far from seeking to rf;
elude them from the nothaeof their Lordships, be sr° j.
afford every facility to the presentation of then—(Kee
;
hear)—but if he saw reason to believe that attempts oe_t:,
making by means of petitions to delay the ulterior pietecit,
ings of. the House upon this Bill—if he saw reaeon in7e,
have that petitions were accumulated upon petitirine
this occasion, when an equally convenient period.for. Ptrsege
venting them occurred last night, without any 8.41e,,1
being taken of it—if lie saw season to believe that pguitLe
were now offered to the House for the,purpose of crelit's
delay and for no other purpose—(Hear, hear)--he cr°"ti
put himself forward at once, -and regardless of the teund
to which he might be exposed, as acting with indecei
haste, and undeterred by the calumnies which w0u1d,.,/
course, await him, he would deprecate the use of art, 10,1
were resorted to, not so much with an intention 4° '°o
ward the petitions of the people as with an intention
embarrass the progress of Government. The House Ycil
terday was almost totally unoccupied by business. fie :1.1
come down to it yesterday with two inaporti,antll6o
tions, in order that he' might not impede thes.pr°b-snil
of business by presenting them to day. HOl/
Peers were then present; and if any one of theta sh": 6
now complain that the petitions of the people were
Pis'
heard, he would sty that it was entirely owing, to P.-0,
own laches and negligence ; and that, if the lams° .10
tended to consult its own character and its own dieloti4l
will call for the order of the day, and will proceo ' "we'
with to the decision of the important question which e
then knoWn to be before the House, and of which the °'`
tlement that day was expected by such intense anxiety]
the public.—(Hear.)—The Noble Baron on the, ftt'd
bench had also told their Lordships that he :was 011°11/,,f,
of the proceedings of the House on the evening leiforelt,
and that he should he still more ashamed of chef if
House did not wait to receive the petitions of 'tile pee
ti
He certainly was not one of those who felt much ant'it
for the shame which the Noble Baron seemed to think
the natural consequence of their former procee3o gs;
to speak the truth, be had cordially concurred in then'', t,ll
had cordially concurred in that indecent baste whiclithel,e,
Baron had censured so severely. Hs said that.there
no indecent haste exhibited either by the Howie or by
Member of the Ilouse.—(Hear.)--slt was iinpe"ible,
suppose that their Lordships were not, one and an, role
pared for the discussion of to-night on the principle 'fi‘
lieving their 'Roman Catholic fellow-subjects fron
civil disabilities. A question which lied now been deb"
anneally"fire the last 30 Years, which had been in vary
shapes so long before the Homo, which for thei'l
two months had given rise to • iniadental debates eto,
day, could not be considered as a novel question, and t'
fore we cannot justly be accused of seeking to take ee
Howie by surprise when we press for a decision to•nere.
upon ir. lie well knew that tbetewere some—he tri!
not in 'the Hoese—who were anxifius that that decteiryi,
**Weld pot now take place. The delay, which they
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for,' could not be wanted for- deli ration, could 004 e
„watited.for any" purpose of Lek. 4iacussion ; nos Ltd el
wanted for the purpo4e of inflaming the public alw
Aire: dissemination .of the moat false and Wanton.' y
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4.0(i5—..( Hear, hear)—it was wanted to produceirrit°,ool'
:corthernation, and dismay, which:lse trusted chile
Lord had ever encouraged any ma* to prOduee•-•-(171i
ile--felt himself called upon to denounce such etterriPef
:the wrougeat language.—(Hear, • bear.)—iie trusted 7
they would foil in producing any effect ; but if tbt'
produce any effect, it must he disturbing to public -7
quillity, and in exciting the people to flume duty
scenes—thank God, we leave toe fires -a Governse,pr
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fear a recur! cure of them—whish the morals:4ie.
neseed amidst the flames and ritste which signalisen?
year 1780.—(Hear, hear.)—He could not help 10j
thus mush; and ii Noble Lords who bad petitions to

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