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. would take the subject into his consideration. He proposed,
therefore, that the duty be Is. 6d. per pound.
Mr. BROCKLEHURST seconded the motion. The re-
' election of the duty would have the effect of destroying the trade,
arid he, therefore, trusted the Right Hon. Baronet would take
the subject into his most serious consideration.
Alr. M. ATTWOOD thought the present duty was get
• likely to affect the consumer, whereas if it were reduced
effect would be to ruin the trade. Under the present duty the
trade had flourished, and would continue to do so
it were retained. The, former reductions of duty had been
- !attended with the most ruinous effects, especially to the work-
manufacturers.
Air. GLADSTONE could assure the House that there
- • 'vas no disposition on the part of the, Government to join the
non. Member in the disparagement of the policy of Mr. Hus•
.. • kisson.—( Hear hear.) With
regard to the motion of his Hon.
Friend the Member for Alacclestield, he would not deny that
the present duty on thrown silk was a sufficient protection, but
he could not think, if it was altered, there was any reason to
suppose that the throwsters in this country would. suffer from
imliertations, because there had been a gradual decrease in the
IrniMrtation of that species of manufacture. It appeared to him
than, by establishing a duty on thrown silk, they would best
tfboteettieforfytlel „phone
to compete with other countries; he must,
the motion of his Hon. Friend.
After a few words from Mr. ATTWOODs,
%Ir. STRUTT protested against the &is:trine of the Hon.
Alernber for Macclesfield. The manufaeturers would look with
'list-nay to a return of the old system of imrsing a duty on the
• irnportaion of the raw material. He wished, however, that
while the Government were carrying out the principles of free
trade in respect to manufacteres, they would apply the same
_ 'Principles to • corn and other articles of provisions. The
manulacturer might then compete with the world. In
it" Present inetance he approved of the Gov srnment proposal.
• 4,111 r. T..EGERTON said, that protection was also given to
aid,;'`ue var'sroems artiales of manufacture prod steed in this country.
The Proposed rate of duty upon silk would still givea prance-
tion tonhe British manufacturer.
:Air- BROTHERTON expressed himself quite satisfied
n, the ssroposal of the Government.
Mr. ts ROCK LEH URST supported the amendment.
The Committee divided, when the nt',mbers were,
. , For the amendment
22
•- . Against it
.... ••• •
••••• ...... • • •••
240
Majority against the amer elment --218
• On the item ot " manufactured silk, or of silk mixed with
`4eoeany other material,"
, Dr. BOWRING claimed from the Government a conces-
sion of a more liberal reduction of duty, in accordance with the
principles they had announced, of patine a stop to illegal
~,,,,;,trade, and from a fair concession'to thr inanutacturers of France.
4il ..._ Ile thought the duty ought to be re'iuced in justice to France,
leecause the duty imposed there on tine articles was only 15 per
lei, cent., in some cases only 13 per ▪ while this country int-
'44l,s - a duty of 30 per cent., 40 per cent., and in some
47-,if:lSeta:tee3 60 per cent. was takeri-upon certain articles, in con-
leTience of the constructiceoesf the tariff. He should, there-
pr°Pese that the duty on foreign manufactured silk goods
reds to an ad vol drem duty of 20 per cent.
11. PEEL said, he did not think that a reduction of the
:eitesq,.,4l...6tY would benefit the consumer in this country; at the same
arter'n'et ihfate could be no doubt that there would be great advan-
'4l.le-ta„e,,in reciprocal point of view. Ho trusted the House
'nee 71,-u'i (let hastily press the Government on the subject. He
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ft
tit
.wonu.ld
.bemuch better not to accede to the proposal
Ys.. ,on• etemner.
110 4r. LABOUCRERE was of opinion that they might safely
e-,•"4ve this matter in the hands of the Government. He thought
irlitl_would be improper to interfere with the negotiation on this
Ittee;"--ad which had been- entered into, and he should vote for the
erleeneition of the night Hon. Gentleman.
seri 1, Mr. HUME would advise his Hon. Friend (Dr. Bowring)
n
''',eslt.n in press his motion to a division. He thought it would be ew ees, se leave the matter in the hands of the Government to
arfti ;ittakei all arrangements they could.
aiette .L.1)1-• BOWHING said, as he did not wish to occupy the time
House, he should not press bit motion.
.61; Ir. WILLIAMS, who rese amid cries of " Withdrawn," " Oh,
k:!k,114 eras of opinion that if the duty upon those articles were
'nes-. ill."need as proposed by the Hon. Gentleman near him, the
,b,.,
fiat maitufactarers .dngland would be ruined, and the
market would be removed tram England to France or Ger-
atesse hought it rght to make thee obseraions on
b:.. 1f of h • H
ist constituents,i l'ind he must adds that onv this point
' had every confidence in her Majesty Government.
1/45.,,.‘k Lord HOWICK thought that the House ought to rely upon
ttav negotiation that resent going on between this country and
cLanCP ; but if negotiation were not brought to a speedy
7"elusioli, he was of opinion that we ought to legislate with a
▪ Ty to Our own interests.
The Government propoSition was then agreed to.
sse (I)rithe item, millinery of silk, being put,
mould '▪
,MANGLES proposed that the India manufacture
eeeisid he placed in on a level with the British.
tilirscßu.ss.rn:EL said he hoped the House would bear in mind,
these individual cases, the extreme difficulty
.e:.iaohseuieshi there was in making such alteration as would not inju-
y affect existing interests. The reduction proposed in this
was a reduction from 20 to 5 per cent. If he wished to
s•ate
would Y e proposed to make this particular reduction, he
erhaps find it difficult to give a satisfactory answer;
Cyhtattatiknueetyetriiheesatdsse.:-Ht.ernptedio do was to make such reductions as
should confer general beneSt without inflicting injury to parti-
culare
therefore hoped the. Hon. Gentleman would
iji.Asnrt.w;as,;:trey
agreed
of the House upon it,
item a few words from' Mr. BROCKLEHURST, 'the
e e 0,
St w.rheouldotittvievAr!.Etthupon cfmlses being proposed,
said if the duty were reduced to 25 per cent.,
em a desire to dress better.—(Laughter.)
Mae Commit under the, head of silk were then agreed to.
Chet cord•uite.e Were A ,Jollt to proceed to the next schedule,
troAttilricni3otili,(l:l:e_febsentreON said that at the present late hour it
Mr. AllTCeru%thle to go into a new schedule.
Pie that he eoeld en„,l-1, erho had a motion on the subject, said
-110 lice at tle.,ti;Titistice to the subject of which he had given
After a
.iew
°by 'lour.
sir _ srtwations from Mr. MITCHELL,
Progres EL had tits objection to the Chairman's reporting
1/6119 n the understanding, that the Hoose sheuld corn-
*. lc business on Monday at half-past four o'clock.
EThy
uggestion being agreed to, the Chairman reported pro-
obtained leave to sit again on Monda.
et or, • Double Costs Bill went through Committee, and was
ered to be reported on Monday.
. q)ost The second reading of the Poor-law Amendment Bill was
,honed to Tuesday,
Fitljt.," 16 Sugar Duties Bill went through Committee.
-4 The Slave Trade Suppression Bill, the Slave Trade Abolition
4 the Slave Trade Treaties Bill, were severally read a
time and passed,
Orr the motion of Mr. REDINGTON, it was ordered that
• .1411'efrw it
should be issued for the borough of Sudbury till
of July.
41 e LORD ADVOCATE obtained leave to bring in a Bill
ti; 14t better regulating the number of prisoners admitted to
• Igeneial prison at Perth.
s'? answer to a question from Mr. YORKE,
'c • 4:1.- J. GRAHAM said if the discussion of the tariff went
-
d Monday, and took precedence of other hu,iness on
eel`.laY,
anbce Bill e s.hould
move the second reading of the Poor-law
on Friday.
ee. Rouse then adjourned at a Quarter to One.
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BELGIAN STEA-
M?-SHIPS AND
ENERAL STEAM NAVIGATION COM-

st, (Prose the London Journal of Commerce.)
.4•. -... copse -
,• Tit,,,,,quence of the attempt made, as stated in the
, Asisb °t Yesterday, to prevent the British steamship
' issi:i., from leaving Antwerp at the same time with the
Shato'sti "team-ship, a strong representation was imam-
'. ,Nttv* ; 'nele, by the Directors of the General Steam
isesnlgation Cempany to Mr. Johnson, the highly
.ue 'trted British Consul at Antwerp, and the Captains
the -1e iCcmiPttny's ships received orders to act under
ever actions of that gentleman, in order that, while
CoesYs eara mas taken to protect the rights of the
4ine r4tnYi '!l'd of the passengers by their ships,
./it'le ':
British ship-owners generally, any undue.
theselice or collision might be avoided. The result of
ade,7°,lllPt steps, and of the proceeding forthwith
Pae,,` I,'Y 'Mr. Johnson, has been, that when the Con-
ker( - 3"ip, 'Wilberforce Captain Stranach, left Ant-
-'t a.),?1,1. Mir,sdnesday, no' interference was attempted.
-tile Q1';'(:. aPpear, no doubt, that in endeavouring to stop
Illislc-lari-eow, the authorities at Antwerp had heen
am ;111, 'V interested and unfounded representations,
th,, ,At in future the British steam-ships will receive
. a% .4.Detection and support they are entitled to expect,
, tl,,t, tr__ae return for the services they have rendered to
01,4‘ry
adQ and communication between Belgium and this
L.
. W (Prom the Messager de Gand, June 9.)
~\14112,;.: Rust be just, towards all, towards even the Eng-
an absurdity to accuse the General Steamo
to kl.eation Company of unhandsome conduct and
,f,
a in
ast4 an improper use of its power. The Company's
es, ttheats leave Ostend four times every week. F he _
iaill,',lltwerp Company entered upon the lines by run-.
...4tl)vis.o4::lll,(ekuihed.,illl.37Ssli:opf the
departuresßruges,
which was open
eve been more natural, and titeunCdomitpubneyneifitesiealit.;
)31
-it e as Passengers, would have
of
upon one
_.
• ,Ihish°,",_ it preferred 'fixing those days of
This 'tie English Company was already in possession.
414 t t, WaS, in truth, a downright declaration of war,
sals `°111(1 not but cause reprisals. And, in fact, repri-
lotainencecl immediately ; the English Company
depril.,,ed,,its prices on that day of which it was sought to
11e.ti 'e it, so .S not to leave the Bruges the slightest
ass,. ee cit. success ; a measure that can only be regarded
its . sensible and skilful understanding and protection of
Interests,l`ll .
th ° Position of the English has been attacked, and
es, h
Itrtfr,ir 'lye defended themselves. In all this the only
.I)t7s-hritt Ilsiontheis, that the Belgian Government should
aespo Y mix itself up in the matter, in order to give
- °Y. unwise speculation of the Antwerp Coen-
It seealum, rns that now some people wish that the Belgians
%2 enter into open contention, that 'they should run
~4-,ia_le it
of ships on the line a.s.the.Enghsh
styl,ri,,k that they should carry on opposition in grand
4.:ilvsee "' a, however, are of opinion that the Belgian
that it Taaat has already clone a great deal too much,
il.ittiei" 48 a profound error to have cast away large sub-
,.. . matter in
:14 4 Alou the Antwerp Company, and to have meddled
Al'
.I;eb iutervent.
which the interests of the public called for
ten.,sia. .
:1144•111"4.folilostieorlaurgl...elY, ani in a general manner, for the
national flag, our hearty approbation
de sie,t w ; establish even steam-ships upon lines which
Is„,it
,•_al present exist, and of which the want is felt.
kit ta i 2 1 1.
-t the very supposition is as unreasonable as
toriliiolitic, that the Government should become specu-
Ile)iien :ttara-ships, whether singly or whether in con-
ae
sta.k,t the Antwerp Company, in order tor oppose
tess" uustinient
—4lse this adequate to the wants of the public,
c,,,t4,.. is establishment is in the hands of a foreign
tiee4lll3'v"ietrne. have only to state a general case to pro-
- orss li
Of inuf'n6rs come to Srocountry to form establishments
Belgians exercised a similar industry,
NM there
; if
a,isf_teil,ere be any reason for Government to furnish
.Eggtittil,:yl (2 to enable them better to support the compe-
rem.,,`,2r,_ lish capitalists are for the most part lute-
Glei.t% she Pleteisli Bank, recently established in
!%:i.
~'
,1-t. rival Bank were to be erected in Ghent,
Jilgt 67 1-4Pitai exclusively Belgian, would it be either
I,,ottrierrto cuorizaeneireendtitfor Government to support it with its
?
it is,s)„.°_tqd be a revolting interference ; and what will
if i'll:Ti.,l with what name shall we adorn it, if the funds
'1 ei, breasury are to be engaged in an enterprise
:ea
lir ,Y.. reason of the opposition it meets with, is,
i• • vlB will be, unsuccessful, and which. conse-
"los ' .t. t' t, only a useless vests of the lIILId3 to be
kk!ti Li, .
?