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London, England, 1820-10-17 00:00:00

Conspiracy first, and then he would try and bring
it home.

The Earl of LAUDERDALE still hoped their
Lordships would not abandon all the rules of
evidence laid down, which had been found so sar
lutary by every Court of Justice for ages past.—
,He had heard even his Noble and Learned
Friend describe these very rules as the great bul-
warks of the liberty of the subject, and if so, he
should like to know why they were unfit for the
present case. He, therefore, thought it better
that their Lordships should have the opinion of
the Judges at the present stage.; for thotigh they
were not bound by that opinion, he conceived it
was proper to have it.
The Earl of ROSSLYN felt great reluctance in
differing from his Noble Friend. He conceived
their Lordships were not bound by the rules of
evidence as adopted by the Courts below, which
applied to parties of opposite interests, but he
admitted the general principle
,of applying these
rules. In all cases the administration of justice
must be regulated by circumstances,and he wished
the balance of power in this case to prepon-
derate in favour of the accused side, as here
there was one party that might materially suffer.
Besides, their Lordships were not trying a cause;
they were investigating a State measure of great
necessity. They were to affix a new crime, and
to provide a new punishment. They were
sitting in their Legislative capacity on a ques-
tion of expediency, while one party appear-
ed at the bar to shew it was incompatible
with the interests of an individual that the
present bill should pass into the law. It
was important for that individual to shew that
the alleged facts were false and deceitful, in order
to preserve her rights, and what ought to be in-
finitely dearer to her, her character through life ;
and if she could establish this by evidence to the
falsehood or corruption of those who deposed
against her, their Lordships, he was certain,
would at once declare that it was inexpedient,
the Bill should pass. Without this considera-
tion borne in mind, however, it was inex-
pedient that their Lordships should appear
for one moment in the character of oppres-
sors. It was perfectly true, indeed, that the
Noble Earl opposite had taken on himself the re-
sponsibility of the bill, and he was responsible to
their Lordships now.; but when they should have
proceeded to a second reading, that Noble Earl
,could cease to be responsible to them, whereas
their Lordships would have become 'responsible to
the Country while taking all responsibility from
the Noble Earl. The question in reality was
no: whether the Queen should be wronged, but
whether their Lordships should be wronged too.
Certainly he would not charge a conspiracy on
the Milan Commission, rior on any other party,
nor on any one ; but the question was, whether
their Lordships would persist in passing the Bill,
because it was desired to shew that it had been
supported by a conspiracy to procure false evidence.,
He contended that the party had a right to prove
the corruption of evidence, if corrupt it had been,
which went to affect all that was valuable in life;
or desirable in future times. his Lordship con-
cluded a long and argumentative speech, which
seemed to xnake some impression on the House,
by repeating his wish that the evidence* now ten-
d ered on behalf of . her Majesty should be receiv-
ed at the Bar.

There was every prospect of a long debate
when we left the House. •

The Debate continued till a little after one
o'clock, when it was agreed to put a question to
the Judges upon a supposed case, in order to
have their opinion in effect as to the admissibility
of evidence respecting the conduct of Vilma-
c.titTi. The Judges, after some pause, required
time to answer the question, and time was given
them till to-morrow morning at ten o'clock, to
which hour the House immediately adjourned.

MILITARY PROMOTIONS.

!Far-Office, (Jet. 13. 1820.

.• •
• 3,1 Regiment of Light Dragoons, Gentleman Cadet Thomas
Baker May, from the Royal Military College, to be Cornet,
by purchase, vice John May, who retires.
ith Ditto, Lieutenant Edward Augustus Day Maxwell,
from' half-pay Rith Light Dragoons, to be Lieutenant, vice
Walter Clarke, who exchanges, receiving the difference.
fad Ditto, Lieutenant I'i Ingle Taylor, to be Captain, by
purchase, vice Vernon, who retires ; Cornet William D. Kie-
aalt Lieutenant, purchase, rice Taylor.
toldsti•earn Regiment of Foot Guards, Lieutenant Francis
Matihy NitaWe tube Lieutenant and Cliptain, by purchase, vice
Da) nes, alio retires. Ensign and Lieutenant William Homy
Cornwall, from half-pay of the Regiment, to be Ensign and
Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Shawe. .

cilltegimetit ;If F:ot,Ensign IlenTy Waring to be Liente-
nant,•tvithout purchase, vice Glasson, deceased; Oliver Ro-
binson, Cent. to he Ensign, vice Waring.
10th Ditto, Ensign Richard Walter Shitikwin to be Adjutant
(with the rank of Lieut. nattt), vice Allen promoted.
ead Ditto, Lieutenant Peter Jan Douglas. from the half
pay of the 66th Foot, to be Lieutenant, rice Alexander Adair
Brice, who exchanges, receiving the difference.
36th Ditto, Ensign John Oniony, front halt-pay of the 11th
Foot, to be Ensign, vice Charles Lennox tretcb, who ex-
changes.
46th Ditto, Ensign Edward Sutherland, from 67th Foot, to
be Ensignovithout purchase,,viee Carroll, whose appointment
has not taken place ; Lieutenant Tobias Purcell to be Adju-
tant, vice Madigan, mho resigns the Adjutancy only.
47th Ditto, Brevet Major John William Hutchison to be
Major, without Purchase, vice Moleswoith, killed in action ;
Lieutenant Thomas W. French to be Captain, vice Hutchi-
son ; John Dillon Brown, Gent. to be Ensign, without pur-
chase ; Ensign Eugenius M‘Carthy to he Adjutant, vice
French, promoted. _ .

s:id Ditto, Brevet Major John Giles to be Major, without
purchase, vice Fehrszen, deceased; Ensign Robert Taggart
r.
et
to lie Lieutenant, without purchase, vice tzgeraltfoleceascd
Krefting, Gent. to be Ensign, vice Taggart.
54th Ditto, Lieutenant Colonel William Macbean, front
halt Pa, 59th Foot, to be Lieutenant-Colonel, vice Felix Cal-
vert, a hose appointment has not taken place; Ensign Richard
Tyrrell Robert Patton!), from halt pay Royal African Corps,
to be Ensign, vice Alexander Miothewson, who exchanges.
55th Ditto, Lieutenant Thomas 'Froward, from half pay
5114 Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice William Henry Arinsttong,
who exchanges, rt cciving the difference.
57th Qitto, Lieutenant Henry Oniton to be Captain, with'
mit purchase, vice Dix, deceased.; Ensign James Brown to
he bentenaut, vice °Out!.
tNd bitto, Brevet Lieutenant-Colonel Richard Roberts to be
Major, without purchase, vice Goodrige, deceased; Lieutenant
sackville H. Eaton to be Captain, vice Roberts ; Ensign John
Mansell -to he Lieutenant, vice Eaton;, George Dameratut
'(hlat• to be Ensign, vice Mansell.
both Ditto, Ensign Henry Dontlitlintne to be Lieutenant,
without purchase, vice Place, promoted ; Charles Estridge.
Gent. by Purchase, vice Coleman, who retires; Gentleman
Cadet John A. Walker, from the Royal Military College, with-
out purchase, vice Donnithorne, to be Ensigns ; Ensign Thos.
Coleman, vice .Johnstone, deceased, to be Quarttruaster.