The Sun.
London, England, 1816-02-16 00:00:00

IMPROVgNIENTS IN PALL-MALL.

Mr. BAR/NG moved for an Account of all M.o•
ney expended, or intended to he expended, on the
new I mprorements in Pell-Mall, opposite Carlton-
!louse. _ _

M. HUSKISOM felt happy in on opportunity of
making
some explanations, particularly as mis
conce-
ptions seemed to. prevail. The statement
required by the Hon. Gentleman could not come
front antof, the Public Offices, as they bad in fact
nothing to do with It, He seemed also to think.
that some alterations or capric.icus changes were
making„,contrery to the original plan and design ;
but he could assure him there was nothing ,of
that sort.. tits officers appointed under the Ne..v,
'Street 'Act had .strictly, conformed-to its provi-
sions, They had acted purely and simply ministe,
rially, according. to the plan and specification
which was lodged with the dolt of the peace tor
the county. Alt .the Commissioners, among
whom he was an unworthy Member, had to do,
%vas to remove certain houses, and then to let out
the building gronnd, according to,the design,
,to
the best advantage. .In the part alluded to-*.intli,
vidunis hod taken leases at rents exactly conform*
able to the original estimate. Individuals, how,
ever, had altered their. particular plans, and taken
down a part of the buildings, to re,erect in a way
more tunable to their own conveniences but they
were required to conform to thegeneral pion, and the
particular design and eloation. The pulling clown
was only becanseit.was tkought necessary hy adopt, it
tlifferent plan of interior accommodation,- l'erhapasin
less than smooth he might haveito present a tri-
ennial report froal the land teventie and crown
estate. departments, which would include all the
woods; forestsOlaryieboue-park, the new streets
So. -Ha was the that the information given
would be desirable and ,useful. lie had no poitti,
,cultic objectuon to the motion., in on amended
`state, if =time Honoarable Gentleman had any pc-
:culla! view in it. The laud its Pail7anall being
,the most voidable, it became Alesirable to let that,
and get it built upon, at early period,' that the
reatemight be received, .
Air. 'HARING had surt objection to withdraw his
motion tinder these 'circumstances. _

Mr. iIIERNEY intimated that Ise might make
,soute motion on the anloject.

uvrg 714NSATIONS fN SPAIN:

Mr. Bitouottam rose, pursuant to the notice he.
had given, to 'offer to thr iittetition of the [louse
a itihjectwhicb he. held it .bolted.to- take into its.
ittost sexious csilkitteratifran,Air every principle of
lionoter;`justico,. and, strict political privietice
he- titant that political_priniettee, which, taking.
an -eiitirgetl view.,of our 'but interest, was Abin fie
Wdrrlll to govern. the conduct-9f great nation,
He %vitt Stfre, that in opening t•.-s question he
should be spared the disaigrecaule ncessity of
calling on the ilouse to follow )ilia throuh' ant

great length of deteil, rtS that which he had to
mention vent too notorious, said.h.ol.already ope-
rated too, strontly on theirfeelings, to (termini
that be press it .iiitith.aw,ths4h flaw.
would !ha necesse(!!,.that, ht
,sliould eedenvorir,
before,lie,proceeded Inflier,.lo correct Owe rois-
representations.which had; ine ahroad, imdwhich
had had some efrec,t,An the minds of those I.licirti
he , most respeetedots he had traria f.roin a con-
versation whicliiiitt taken place ofttheirecediug
evening in that .flatise; to whichan Hon. Friend
of his sat nein kin), had been a party, He
was„ anxious, to ilo this, that the priociples on
which' he had taken., up the.tpicstioii should not
be iiiistintlerstootL however much' the attention
of -Europe might be attracted to the' present ex.
tilted situation' of this •cauntry, .which to theta
Might be an abject, of; admiration, of enVy,
aliirnitit whatever.ow
eircutnstanees they might
ascribe its present er, he held the advantage
nno*enj p
oyed to .tie ittOrVi, 1110Clt more, awing
to our land keying-been tot* the rallyilg point
of ail g,ood priodples,: in tvlittlitill, gelid men,
suffering in ti good-cause, tve)T led toil), for re-
liek.,—!,o its hssior, heels owe a place of refuge fei
which all wbo were opprel)ed might, look for as-
!listener .Pot look tvrvain. To these things
he isctitted our present greatness; more !him tit
tiny► thing' else
.which -his imagination or me-
mory 'could Stlggesti,H4l'llooglii,sotne,olight ~o;C'riboe
it to the dipfornaricialents °O le Nobltstord Op.
posite Castlereagh); VA Others trace it to
the Wore
,nottneistionahleMerits of our army and
navy, yet he, Omagh net denying; and Gott knows,
not undervaitiine,theif-services (haviiikbeen the
very first • to propose diet the thanks of .Parlia-
rent should ecknowledgellieni), was disposed to
trice -to still higheventirees our present rolvan-
tagebus.siitlationtb !'oiir free (; oustillitiori, tas
our free liailisonent, and to our free Piess. It
was from the possession of these adVaiititeri that
the tints could :always' be. .qisseatinated in this
country. Our free: Tress icinveyed .it an
#ild consequently to-ail eoliglitetied pro•
ple, and oar free Parliament Cfrere
.11; least its
discussions), co-Operated' 416i:same labour. It
was front these erste edesigages that lie belies' .ed
our high Salmi iotritslederi veil. That sltliat JIM
however, it oughtsto be borne in mind, might be
'placed in jeopardy;; by precipitate and ill-timed
interference with the affairs of other nations; and.
it would be 110 less in darigerlif we universally
abstained front interference, where (Ids weide.
mantled of Os Oil • principles of kratitOde, justices
and duty. But the-most seandalims,way in• which
our exalted situation ought be lost, Was be -0 way.
ward and capricious exercise of our interference,
focusing at one time in behalf of *family with
Whom we were not necessarily Collocated, and by
refusing it at another to those who had been cork
diully united with us, to establish that very power.
the abuse of which subjected them to opprsssion.
If .there was one way of losing the high chime.
ter we liad, gained more degrading than any other,
it was tioqiiestionahly this. It was on this prin-.
ciple mimic that he now came forward; and doing
this be was anxious to stale that he mild not sa.
"crifice one tittle of that opinion which he had
formerly delivered on the injuitici of interfering
in. certain cases with other nations, where this
eourse had been deeidedttpon by the English
vernment. As stiligly'as he had ever
.(lone, he
protested against ?e,right. to interfere 'with an'
other nation, by Awing to .it the form of :go*
vernmeatwhich it should adopt, or by impoting
on a great people any King or Family that it
might be our wish to see reign over .theist, While
he Maintained his fornie'r opinions on these sub.
jects, he would contend that -A right to interfere
might spying front other circumstances, and it was
on. this pihiciple that te.eight submit
his motion to the Hollse.. It could scarcely be
necessary tor him to tension! those -who hoard. hint
of the whole argument fOrinelly held, when it
wet resolved' by Illkisters to interfere with
France. It, eirte th.masserted that we had no
right to interferegitb;ithitt; nation, because she
chose to he governed, as a gertblit: : that on this
account We were apt ibound to interfere in behalf
of .those who.bail neser.beett our Allies) flint 'tide
fuinithed no ground
.foeshe reeal Of our*Ainhas.
sailor trout Vratiee ;--or to break the Peace which
this, subbisted between, the two countries. These
principles; ai the cornmeticement of the French
volution, had been maintained on that side
(the Opposition side),
,of the House, and 'theta
he still held sacred.. So. far wes•he front deviating
from them; when lie contended taat'the interfer-
ence at this country with respect to Spain was
now caned for, that the opinion' of 'that great
man, -How no more (Mr. Fox); guided- him on
this occasion, and the substance of his presetst
Motion wet drawn from,the words he (11ri, Fort);,
had used when he lust spoke in that Flume of the.
interference of this
_country 'in .the 'affairs of
Franco,.
.The House would ,feel that he referi:ei.
to a conversation which ;hail takeit*plaie
the end of Decinobeetla.2t.. Previous to this;in.
• bousequence of the s'apitect Itevolutionary,.
Uovernineut towai'dsAki,Kety4t .Fittnity of-Frenees, .
Lord Gower, had been reeiiii4l„,
A difference arosi between the two connteiet, and
the -King's Minister's. declared erintee -.1104 no
• longer a Ginverningkt capable of maintaining' the
relations of Peace and Amity. Thu,* Willi sat on
the .Opposition side'of the kloss sit' that ante,
tootemietli that whatever might, he. the leeks ut
the. French Government, as it .NUNS then the tia-
veriimetit ate fact°, it ought nut to have been
'treated in -this Manlier: !tint wheii the proceed-
ings of those persons who were tnentber's of it
'became so atrocious as to shock- those who had
at first been ilitittoseti to o, favourably of theta
«--when, -having got ttiX.peexiso of tireging and
others of the Royal 'FaLestly: iuto.their possessiett,
-the catastrophe tvl,icli. ateteed Was ,loot.lizp
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~f. their intentions to sacrifice them—then all Men.
v hoi-e•.ininds desetved .any Consideration., were
sitocked At the lengths to tyhich the Revolu-H
ttoni:,ts Were going, and the opponents of Mini-
f,tcrs .were unanimons in their.,exertions to stop •.,.
the evil which they all deplored. It was then
that I' r.• had come don ii,to the House tvitb
i, friends, :and vindicated the course which .11
,t thougi:r it his duty to ptir,sa:e ; Ire denied the
p.'opriet Y-4.4 Lord Gower's tecal,, or rather he
.y.csttotied time necessity of it, hut-be stroxtgliver.,-
pi:esNed those feelings of horror and indignation •
with which the conduct of the,Revolutionists bart.
inspired him. Ide,
.on tluit oceasion, argued
, •
.tike,t the reed of our Ambassador, no one
litiving been appointed:: in,!his..place as itti, fw-
cr(!ciit,:d i"klinist:r ttont.; 4.e•ottutry, must prove
ftitt)i .to the cause 6f:.:4,11 Itoy4, I.,'ainily of
lit
J.,)-unce.. If we had kept our, Ambassador, he
toptended, it wpuld lutveSeionlin Our power
loijiiUerare our. good offices- in.:behalf of the
unfortunate Mlna reit , anal have given weight:
l'o the.decla;•utirtps of England, which might have.
p.-,•tic.(la.strong feeling among the people, and.
,Nvllich. would pi obahly even nay; !tad some effect
Ott iliv Convention. , In. this.spirit, Mr. Vox pro,:
li,;,ed that a motion should he made, the object of,
.u,;;ic1)„. was to afford the liouse;au opportunity, of •
e44lei4ing those teeliugs of judigßation. acid Aut.
:ri,•e which : necesswly grew out-. of the!e.yquts
vv,ll idi hAd recently occurrcil. This, it was hoped,
lui.,.;ht operate in tilvour of the Royal Filthily, and
(14."tci the persecutors from the consummation of
their guilt. 4 mut:4o49r this purpose was Made
by Air. rat „pt.( the. econirnenddtiu4 6f .Mr. Fox,
1:1,1 the eakrespoudenciv which hail taken. place. on:
ti... 4., subject of the mai of Lord Corer, Thin

gtte all felt as Mr. Fox did, an oppor.
of expressing their, sentiments, and that
Mght Hon. Gentleman expressed a hope that the
chzhare would have a salutary effect ; though he
not calculate on its proving the salvation of
I`o4 Bourbons, yet he expected it would do some.

„errs({. fie, 4owevcr,, Still felt thnt an accredited
tigkut flank thie pommy was %vanting• in. lA:ance,
give.rorce to, the representations or ,this COOll.-
1 )7, and to throw its whole weight into•the
tc;,!;ile with effect.- He should not have ,gone
far into the history of these proceedings, but for
what occurred on a former night.;, :Having gone,
1;i, fir, it might now. be necessary tor hint to go`
still further, to compare eirettnistances of:the in-
. tcrterence which had been determined on their,
Stith those under winch u similar • exertion was
callvd for nnty. Those for whom
.he now wished..
this count' y to interest itself Were sulfuring pa-
triots :old i!They• were now oppressed,
for laying steuggle(l; against, 414: ;Imola oppres-
sore,of.their country, ;The King, the Queen, 114
..
the Unyal FanOly of France, though•iu u deplora.
lifts sl,ate.!*7-astate which ,mightwell.cullforthi sym-
pithy, were atig, unlike „the. SPanieli 'patriots,
Nvi)olly anconne.cted xvtlt this conntly. • Thky, had
no-claim 0.0. us froneatiy.bond of union :Which had,
suirSisted betweeti treitwt) parties. ...Having..been-',
Icij tie 6pi.Nik,rffpreCetleltli; he. would adduce one:,
or, two mare, ,bear :equally on
in hoint,'tie would., not, go hack., to the period
whop Queen li.lizsbeth interfered hi behollof, the
rrotes(ents hi the Low Countries, .our would he
dwell oil. the hicvs vviticis Were otter:wards taken
an th'e part of this country, to proeurersomeame
ion Of the TIIC6Ci#S well as ate,
efforts Made, by Olieer.Crontwell in favour of: the
persecuted NoLestants, most, be fi'eSh.in, the me-)
mory ofthe House; arid tnese, woUldfibundantly
bear Wem i out in aking.the motion whir •••illich he
prpposed to conclude, But 'there was, one- better •
than all these, which it veas'impoisible to get•
to the Addresses. nuonimonsly
voitni on the subject at the Foreign Slave Trade.
soMe'yeetihisck. . Both Hintseshatt.concurred:in
doing this; and, if there was One point inure &li-
ege itraoanaher: to be: -totichii upon in our .di-
pl'innatie: trtinsaetions With Spain, it Washer cola-
-1144 slave trader. It was ktiow,n 'w hut. had been:
tare`. atone'. given-to Oliver. Cromwell,. wheirin the.
zenith of his prosperity, und;when- by trig tneaus
t he, power of England ad been greatly. increased;
orehis Mittister the. Spann!). Minister
at the Intlinsit rune, andelaihring for thiceottn-
try e.pavieipation in the:oolonial tracicYTne so-
nish courtier OiVrtiaeoecasiott described tlieltiqui.•
sition and the, eolonial dratlie Ise.-his itt.aster's.;
two eyeei that illegitituate-Mod
nateli..(Olieee epitnwelf), ” 1 roust trOublelodr:
rooter to put colt his two eyes." lie mentioned
thi,,,toshew the soreness of the Spanish tiovertif:.
molt on its eoinnial •tratlie being tobeired, upon ;
tod, if , there was yet•any thing 'on which he sen-
sibility was io a tenfold degree greater, it:was on
that in which it was most guilty—its,trade in MO-,
riga') slaves. It would, be as safe 0 aslo them to

liberate a prisoner ru the Inquisition, or to require
to work less hardly thotie.employed .in the, mines.
as-to, interfere with their African-Slave Trade. To,
ask Spain and Portugal to, give up their. share in
this, commerce, teas not to Jo more than Spain and
Virtugol.would do, if they.were to send over.tn
England tonegoeiate a Measure for,the Telief of
their suffering brethren, the oppressed Catholics
of kelford. 'fh Slayi Trade occupied: the sante.
plave in the politics of 'Spain and Portugal,:othieli
the exclusion of Catholics from.a full participatiOn'i
in the IL itish Constitution held in) our system.--.
Notwithstanding this was known wben the-Ad.
dresses' he had mentioned were ,prOposid, so 'deo ,
to:joined were garliament on the subject, shot no.
voice had been raised against Ihem,-and- they had
been ;carried
,tcp the, foot of tire Throne' ,with the'
%,„44,im6qs appt,ph:ition of 'both Houses, , 'these •
had,,sju(4.l,Nenacted.ttpon he same spirit, as
.
uppeared. (cook ~the tort eipeodence now ,before
. , •
the (louse. it was .63r those .who.shouliVoltiect
to e r en.k. belt the Fitt nis It Pat riotB,'
00.11) grenufl 410 Soar 'aprocectling , had. no pre-
cerfcßtt, uf the interference for the
FratiCe in che year,1792,, and of
essLis reipecting the 'Mikan Slave Trade, •
to :t Melt
,he had rlirceted their attention, if in
tl:e instances the Honsi' had interfered for those
to st'hoto
.they were Imund by no common tie,
save tbat which niiinkind together, surely
thete could be no reason for refusing it when it
4-kinl.eil in favour of the:aufortuttate
.Bp:t-
-rial:cis, With .whont a baitbeen ttnited in the
Ce-mlicil and the,.fiod,.. It would be for those.who.,
onpuied the 'notion to ,spew that these ottr alitej

waveless
eenneeted, with us than -thelloyel
telly of France or the African Slaves had been.-e-e
It wonttl he 'recollected that in 1809, Adink2l.',
ikpOdaek, the amulet:it Miid-3tee of Ferdinand-, - bite,
really esereil-,iiig .
the pOWer '
eoecludeet:e Tic.try efeletliivcritiritry on 17ehfaff
of Solite 'fhie Treater,!:ireetad:.tngland neV'er.tur
' • in .Peeeti wiiti'Franee to the snrretider,
of the riehts of Fel-dinned, ale] .Spain • engaged'
never, to make a peace without the concitrreece of',
this country ; or, in any case, to. Com:Amite crane:te
agitinst ite.ietcre.sts. Some time bad elapsed with
Yaringi:fortmies when.negociations were eittered
into'with the
SPenish Government byleord
ley; here he offered the tribute, of his ad-,
miration, of the enlergel, and's-talesman,.
like•views—of the cogent reasoning and Tertian-
eive eloquence which had -distinguished' the Notes,.
of that Noble Lordeand.,witichliadrefleete.d,Ao
. hutch honour tin lite .prieciples. of the:. liritielt
Government.) The great object of. the. tiggoeiae
;ions carried. on by:the/Witt:gm seif Wellesley, had
been this—to assemble the Cortes.' _Hie lan-.
goageehad heel), "..Call..theeCortee-e-ehe not
,be
satisfied with an iniperfect Representative Body,
unknown to the Constitution of Spain, but call
the Cortes At once, ,and let them take the whole
state of" the country into their ctiesidtiattoir, and
effect the 'fiecessarer reform in your spient."--"111
consequence of the great efforts made by the
Noble iklar.quisethe Cortes %Nit:l'C called together„
in the curse Ot n fe=et' months, andeelle:gency wits
appointed. ..Of the individeals which funned this
Regency (all the Members of which were selected,
from Our interpesition), two had„.l4e.ly 'omen serif-
tenced,to punishment by •Ferdniandeaucl mese,
be found iu the I.l,lack List of his victims, These s
were part of that Regeney win) hen rieeiotained
relations of amity With us., who bad glade coni•e.
iron cause with us, the interest, of. Span being
coosidered the interestor,',England, ;tint the, re-
sources of England being liberally restated to in
order effeethatly- 'to sustain the cause of Spant.;--1
The reatAllieoifEeiglantl were the Regeeey and
the. Cones ; they had struggled for the liberties
of their -.ountry, when they were as igeornit how :
Vtirdiitanfl;vitS.etriploYing hiniself, its he believed
everyone in that House was careless what might
ultimately be his fate. Towards the end of the
year '11313, or .theleginning of the year 1811,
when the power cif Butmaparte begun to totter all
over Europe;.a Treaty •watreftegun between hint
and. Ferdinand his prisoner. 13y this• Treaty tie
boom) himself to lenitive the English army front
Spain, on the French army being withdrawn, and,
in ft word, co-operated, as much aS WAS it) his
power, with Inionaparte, against this country
and its allies. Such conti'lenee had Napoleon in
Ferdinand, that he immediately suffered his. pri-
soners to' go at large (seesible, perhaps, that he
could not do at worse service to Spain), end what
did Ferdinemi do on-this occasion ? .Did he re-
vokeehe treaty of 'Valency ? No. Did lie has-
ten-th Madrid ? - No, he freoided turd retired to
Valentia, after eefusing to sign the Constitution,
Anil to recognise the existing aethorities,- without
reetiking Abe treaty 'which he had been induced to
sign while in a state of duress. All his thoughts
seemed devoted CI) the study of the means. by
which hir might °rem-brow the Regency and the
Catrtes;which, nitre allies of:Bogle:id, had so
effectually laboured for 'lime salyatiim of Spaine--;-
The Cortes refutied•to ratify the treaty witi
diniind had eonelittled wit b Buonapai te, becaa,e
was inconsistentwith good faith to Englander's it
wenrageinst the 'itiptilatiems of that coneluded
with this country by Admiral Aped:lca in 1800."
treaty cif 18:09 than adhered tct, end this it
had been the Object of Ferdinand .10 break, and
Weed tifdi'isnive ittl the arratigemeets which had
served• to knit the two countries together.. Peit.
though lie had formed tb:s plan probably by hint
self, he rionbl not: exFeil te it without 'oar
once. -What tepresentations were •thade fo
by Our' Minister at Velentia he knew nete .at the
tinneFerclinand appeared to he conetenaneed by
'in' mi hat • be was (lc► ag,. bet the".Noide
Lord mien kinew what he had been authorised to '
Mike. Ile' (Mr. Brotiehain) svottld venture,to say
no instructions had' been sent to Abet' excellent
person (Sir.ll. Wellesley) to remonstrate apinst
hie proceedings. It had 'lied eueliiihstruefieme.,
we.shOuld not have had the cause we eioevelneva..
for regret. The stigMa•whieb. the last twenty
months had Cast on our character must have been
in that ciiie avoided. Bet no, at • that time be
was ;instanter( by the countenance of the English
Goverimient: trs'n marched egeinst the,'
Cortes' were in .English pay, and it the• beadtoL,
thevatignaid of Elio's corps marelted. an Eeglisit
Oflieer, - General Whittingliane,-
Colonel in our "army, .had advanced .tO -Madrid
helore•Fertlinand—be surrounded thetown ;
dittattil meanwhile advent:et!' in the rear, or behind
the rear.—(A langh)—The Cores were SUI.0»1»1"
ed by (3tneral ; the 'proKribed list
was then brought forward, and .the Cintese with
two or the Regency, were arrested eand thrown
intoAtingeolvi. Thiti was effected by troops in
English pay ; but even
.here our 00-operation elid
not Ode, Pay and clothing- hudeodesequently been:
adveneed to the amount of half Chidden of :rein-
ney. He' knew ii Right +lon. Gentleinan Opp,- ,
siteeeadmitting bed said tlie'ticeounts were, r
. net eh:Awl:at the time. This
:subterfiigewat ad-
vanced to make it apt there was it halinteti due•
to Spain from 'this country. But he would ask, -
when we i»atie the Treaty by, which -tide Money
was to be'paid;:were there mini conditiOns on the)
other sidei • If there were COnditioni, had' these-
conditions. beeteAdfillett when the Treaty of Vuee
leney (which was not revoked) had 'beinton'.
Olutled'ageinst us. • Fled we agreed' to :peY our
money at all hazard s- Were all treaties recipro-
.ctill,hutllieiSe.A.vhieli were tollraid Otf. our redun-
, slant wealth l Were we tit' nth-ranee, 'money to
whatever tinnier, ocer, e-ven` though those
we,tni4ertook to. siihsidis.e went over to Inform,.
..parts? After what had taken place, not merely:.
at Yelency, hit hetwen, Ferdinaed amid our ,Al-.
;lies, the Regency .and :the; Cortes, this country
ijght. to
.pause hefore it "adrrineell.antither
,Nor Wes it only by money that our ap-
,prOhation of the conduct of
~,Verditiantl Intl been
inanifested. tieneral,Whiqingliana;aoer What be
lied described, wee made a Liehtenent-General in
the Spanish servio:, and. ,thus put above;. all • the ,
Spahieh gejoyeCipterals► and, hisewas- then, by
the' adiite of the. Nohie Lord (Lord Castle.-..

t.eaglf) no doubt, advanced in the English set-
He had had the honour to be made an Aid.!
..:(I.o;=Ciimp to the Prince Regent; and was: thus.
'put over about '-otie ':lfundred,,anti- forty
.Licute-1
Mint-Colonels in :our?lii'lny. ;lite .Servieeri4 Oe.-
neral Whittinghain -Its. 1t as igit-110,811 titi~id 4d
to wider vahie. sr hey.":lind nth' been-- confiner t 9
the operations ai—igiarid:--la -hatl-distingaCeil
:liilifself in tbe buttles of Barrosa and Bayles), and
with patr)Otia.*lvarnitli he heliefed lout to' have
nobly: bone his Share in all the Spanish Campaigns.
But the. !ai=.Cser,Vice. he performed,; and for:whick
it might have appeared ,the reward, lie received.
was given, was for maki.ag, himself' the tool and

~. . ,
the. sattellite of Ferdinand, by:executing his plots
aglinst the,liberties of, the Spanish li
people_ e
doubted not that' Oeneial'Whittingbani l'Wl his
instructiontioe what he:had:done,' but he conii4
tiered-iv:to be:bis,inisforttinetliat he had not` c.,
ceiVea the, rewards (which he Ive:I denri.Ve9A.,
which li.ad .be'cii bestowed Onliiinof tot ea r4e:f.l).i.!--.
riot!. , it "wits a misfortone,not onlyfor him, but
for the cbaraCter of the,English (.3014C444ment, that,
lie hail,seeineq to be rewarded, not for his exer-
tions in thebatilis of 'llaylen and 11:trrosa, bnt
for his exertions against the Allies of England,
,the Itegency,and the!c;ofteS.; Ile apprehended it
was ..strinesestary for, hint to pursue further the,
conduct of Ferdinand to prove tits nresent to be
•
a case which ealled for anr'interfethee, when lie.
had cruelly punished those who were, united:with
• us
,in war and in coipcil, in, his behali ; ..who had
not only nitide this ungrateful return to them, but
who had given up the. 'l4reat y' which had been.lie-'
gociated .iii favour of this country. He wished
not to be uattecessarily ,minute :in; noticing the
piiiii,,iiment,: which had taken place. it W:IS,
hoWever, right ti) sotto, that-27 Menibers of tli
Cortes, and two of the Regency,. luitt been con.-:
'sigocilloAtingeons,,,,and besides, a great;varistyi
,of persons, bi private statism, who had,:,.ttidbeoi
themselvett to' the pitriOtie eati.e. These, ar2i r
remaining 19 or 20 months inconfinemetit with-
out being- !nought: to trial, Vaf,tlitoutd, AS, if to
taker away. that complaint, had ordered..
.to be
brotight to trial, and h c had acordipgly ilgited ki
commission fortliat pui•pose.. Three COllliiiiScitillS,
One after ;Another, hadireen . signed , by hi's Ca-
tholic 4aiestyp.by which those persons ii ere t,eut
to bellied, not before men selected by the great
body of the: people, but before creatf,arkut stlPPclttik
to be subservient to his views, anal by them to be '
; senteueed t4i poni,iiment, or acquittal, according ..
to the nature of their ease, oil littpiiiy. -.lt haill,'
further pleased his A.:at.holic Majesty . to eerie* !
their sentences, and to proclaim to the world,
either that these creatures were not disposed to
be sufficiently 'subservient to his' views; or. that
they had .misealcidated the point, at whi,cb....they..
' concluded hiS.animosity would stop,.hy takjitg the,
work Out of their bands. Some of the piothli.;.„-•
nients Would nevertheletts lstive been:WOE& stif):
ficiently,severe in this.:-.country.. Several of .the,,
patriots had
,beell svntenced to t‘yr) se,ll,s' iluiiri-
i sounient, and others were ordered to confineinent
NI. a longcr Period.. One per Son, a 'Poor trades 7,
man, Who had proV,ed himself friendly 'to Falkland.'
on all occasions, and who had been active =in ,
promoting political discus ,ions on the,puduceof
khe Goliernnitit, was sentenced by these Train-
nails to four yec.rs' iroprisonnient. " What!"
said Ferdinand, on seeing this 'sentence, .'` only
four yeat.,i' imprisonment for a wretch ,who h:.(1
imlind on ptilitieS."—:(A
' rl'cialsg-cliiied
.ti Fit °i' i speak •
in
n)nitciliaitelv undertOok to'revi*e this
- sentence,
rand,. taking:u moreetilargedand legi-
k timute view of the subject, he immediately struck
out, the first assigned doom of ibis turfprtunate
'man, typo was 'a cripple, Witb his 4411 band, and •
sentenced hint to he banged--,(ticar,hear I) 'Elie
pt,lplic however—hernetint the.t,clitti o( lattritl, •
with whom FerdinantrWas piTtilar---(a "mournful'
proof of the aisertioti that that country' fares 'ill-
where .the Moriaretiliad the mob for -hit .itily),
even theSF, 1111 ,Maiesty's owiipshble, husli rescued .
this poor man front death, and the punishment.
h:nl in consequen& been sOtnntitied for iliptiiiin-
went for ten years. .:141iltile,. splitkin,,,,7 -of the,
ertodty of Ole punishoteilts ittflicted,, liettliohtlit
• it ini,glit he proper to mention the natile Of the
virtuous, the poriOtic'il rguellas,‘Vhoe fate could
' -not bietnit ein plated I•>flit4iitivialiti antNntlignation:o
I Arguelles, tlie mpst enlight,Mcd,, AIM, most do. , ~,, ,
• (went or the p ariots, whose eloquence had always
iken-devoted to the right cause, who had alWays
4',aised his voice iu praise tinilleity; inlavour of the,'
alliince, with this cottntry; sgainst_theJtiquisi-;
tioo, and against the AfricanS'l,JVC 'Prudes
_Ai,.
cgurilas was comic:me:trio' serve as a oopoino salt
• diet in the garrison of. Ceuta*, and haffUten:sent
to a pestilential dungeon ou the coast ,a(,!Afrittaii_
within sight of a fartrest:belanging to this coml..
try—that.of-,Gibralter,, It,was.now for the House
w.
' to deternyhie, whether this was a case hich7italled '
' for their' interference. He had shown that this
country, 'hail interfered, tinter Ant: of iiihnbir in
,
' other cases ; at this moment-an army. was main-
' tabled •in ,trance for, the,express porpoise of in.
terf'ering in ,the concerns of that country,'as they
had it tinder the hand of the Noble L4rif dpposite'
(Lord Castlereagh)... `phis interference was mast
' extensive, and the,wiholerFteikelil Y4)licellright be
' shill, to be tinder, the confront of the De4.e.of Web!-
lington. 'lt was then•for the'Hotlietts Say, While
tliii line of colulita Was purslaedoin one-cilia:4er;
' whether we , oughtnot, to tisepur.weightland in»
finence to , relieve those who,,by acting .in con-
' cert with this.'country, inabeentir6ul;ht into tlii,
tress glsewhere ftwitiegood filth Which 'they lied'
'observed with ,ns; iTillAte had-.4learakwhat distinc-
tion was drawn between tb.ctwO pees, ye could
not guess 'what answer could hi-given-to:this ap-
peal ' hut' the .one 'lie tleSii4d. The., Regency
bavinglbeen named ,brils, and brought into the
situation in which it now statiN .;'partly
- through this country, had a jitztreeltailiiiihOelLenateide-
interference'. He shotild'itty. no'
Oirposed to'tibit.motion„
whet statement could be
lie wislmci not to risk a-termination of the:state
of amity (such as it is) now existing between his
etoritt•ry and' Bpitin;' by. thregtening the 'Spanish
Aletterch With- vengeance ; bite he % 'B4 I ap• ,
preherlaionsAo be so far excited, that he `should
vt lei -hit
be led' to Consult .priftleneetof- which he did not
beliive Ferdinand tObe.,destitutei on, the -came
t4he'e. biTerf!ttlitedO'f ..titillg'inisiagnitt-t:,f4',etiglraenindinidieedd
.
iploratvp7o'rittooti,
scattered the whole resources df his '4:mpire.,;-. ,
ow ske had trainpled on Old Spairkterstif, Ga

which, thank Gott, we htul still one foot Safely
planted, in sight of the prison of the virtuous Ar 4
.guelles. If these considerations were-brought
home to Ferdinand,- he might cease to be imper 4
ti loos to reason-le might learn what one of the
~ancient Spaniards had ventured to tell his master
—that he had but two enemies,
the one was the
whole world, and the otLer his own Ministers-4
(Hear, hear !)—lf no other good effect was prWs,.-.
'ditced by it, the agitation of the; subject in this
House Would at least remind the present
peenrier
ofsthv-§Panlslt.Throrsei that there was one p
in the' ►thrill where the truth Army yet be freely
spoken,ishere voices are:raised against tyranny'
and usitrpation, in behalf of the oPpressed againiti
the oppressor, The Honourable Gentleman that-
concluded by movingL-- •
" au Idrilitle ALfaress he-presentetHehiiißoYal MP" -
nets the Prince Rigent, intreating Royal Highness totals
- • * • •
hit groCivos eonitderatiOn the sufferings of the Monitore
of thii latt, StiabOr Rigetcy 'and-isortss ; itnd re pitieoling/G-
-his Royal iiighnefis, 'that Alm relations no‘Of:stibaisdng Wide
'his Molt Cattiondldaimity; afforded a most farpnrahlp oppor•
tinny for ittailiusiniuqth sittEtss •ifi-behalfof -these radivil
dnals." -
Lord the 'Wbole 'course .41,
„his, Parliamentary 'experience; lie*fieverirecolleAl
eel to hove met'-with any thing that surprised hid 4
more than the-nature of the- motion with• whiehr
r.th'effon. Alember hadconcluded his speech. Th•
lion. Gentleman although he had-entered so much
. at larke into the dootrine of interference, although '
he had saitisci.niucllo provethatinterference alight
be effectual, yet-iolis.inotiowthere was not oaf 11
l'wortt- of intreety t(s. his .Royal, Highness th°
Prince Regent to act on the principles laid cinr`vri.;
thesneechy—there was no prayer for intqle"
teitee• It was certainly Most eitraottlinary
• the' Hon. Gentleniareutertaitiing the sentiments.
lt*icis he hid • 1 tit spoken 6*
incise( s lave
' strongly in. fai-onr int'etfereitee, Willidut tak-
ing the trontyle•to' malie any inquiry whether or
Pon the British Government brad interfered,---or,
being aware that they' had interfered in some
endeavoured to spew, that
4the Vinci. intettorenee 'which -he ttotinneilLia'
cc! • was, .better Alit* what bad been adoPtcl•
could ,not consid# the;peecit of the .kiono9r"
tiLit
able Oentleman us, Catc.ulamtl to.lay down any rium'
cil)l.s.dri.the subject which it would be wise to
practise, with a tiew to the interests of either.
conniry. 'lle had indeed he .144 sinnetinies
;•-that in the penfession to `whiehihe .hurt. auk
learned Gentlentantelonged,fr was .riot unconl4
mon, in the defence of a client, to sacritiee bi'
'tereSislor the sake Of ruaking a display e,f talent.
Certainly in the present ease' `-erith- a slew 10,00,4
ineerests-miti f thosedividuals on whose unicr,;',4
°mate -situation- the, question.arose, nothing c0u'r,,..1
'be -snore unadvisable- than any interfercuce
nriireil,les which the Honourable Gehtletrian
the klOnottrable. ti~Jitlcmltl :i.:
-Of -any thing short -of interfereoee:4
byfortte-rtf-aems-, there rieeer was A speech. mot ';'s
•ea [enlaced to defeat the .end.ptopt)Setf; o
Parliament kee the utter ifier.pediency of the nieam
sitres which it.recommentled.: Without. ng .fouridir
himself on any .ocattrate information, the
Guitlernon had made impiontiona against the Ver'i
tormge on the 'Throne of Spain, and, sohsatutirtjr;'
cite this.ooCasion n reasoned invective for, the
serted,onew-hielt he had on .n foirriter:Oetailoti.eattdv-
plciyeti, he had endeavoured to prove; thate400,..,-
kind of ,Spain. was actiug,on a course of aiiitrca
, hostility-towards this •country7,that be,was.a.vP°.-
luntary party to the Treaty of Valency, against
Great' 13ritain and tier aßies-7-that he-had returpl,
ed to Spain with tbe:sectlectpurpose Cain
that Treaty into eieeutiOn arid that be was 00.4,
-
. proceeding In the accomplishment of
sign, This' was the, ground _on which 'at,:
Honourable :Nl..utiber called upon the Mouse 1.0 ,7!
iPterfere—,-(1-Ieiii,..hear, 'hear 1)--.But the 1-10000
wouhffeel, that.-ite.,crder to mitke interfereore
tiPettil, .it Was n,ot,- the propel'. way to he'
tnstt' liing•atul degrading, the person of the ,7
s§pauish Monarth:r.(Hear, hear`?).-11 the '
itouratili'4ootieteart-;thanght it was' the duty cite
this 1-Innse.to.embroil; the. country: in any ii-A4`
;:pute as to:•thenivrits- or 'demerits cif the 'Mem
ifi foreigo'.„:eountries, be irtititoi
he would meet Wit.ll* few this country to rout'"
* tenante tokb anopiniutt.. NVith a view tothehene-!,
fit of those i7ictj>iirltsal in Spain, Whose suffelingli
lie was sore eieri All:other of the House agreed
its deploring, the..course which the Honourable
• grtglernan. had oho), was the last to be expect's.'
e,d.frOm 4:,1110' 4(biAt .uattletstatortog. l Bctiire pre ~
re:tenting to cOnsitler •.the partiCulars -of the' hat!,
ev.tits in. Spain, he felt it ileceSSLity tti-tnake some
geudral allaerptt toils nit the qttehtion of inteifer-
Alice. In 'Lis opinion, there was nothing. that
Could More 'esaciitially contribute to the welfare
and: ueneral. 'itnelioration of Europe, . and to 446-
Orokteisive improvement'-of 'the human mind, thti".
free Parlianienfary discussions on the '
Measures of ' policy connected with the Ida'.
tlons of different littropeanStates, to each ()the,:
and this conotry. ilot he could by no means agr"'
tjrttlt the.l3riti3l, Parliament `CiStild uhogate to its
;self the right of sitting sin judgment itpun
cotinuer-or other Soyo.eigott, it) titie)tioll.3 tu--
might niisebetweenton li and their• people. .'l'Pl5 •
did' not apply to the Slave Trade, or any othqe)-„
*.r.;
00111,,meastirefn which all the Powers of Enrol"'
:haa €4111111101) interest ; but to questions
to the adminiSt.ration,Of - .power between .1"
GOrvernments and the
.stilijects. of 'other mttion...gc..
If parliament were to !peddle in such sitattels=
wonkti.drogaitt frowthat high character whirl
it
ought to maintain in the_eyes „of
would' rose its tespeet iind dignity by ttavelanigt
out of its course for such purposes. lie won
now,say a -few w'i),rils as to the particular pregrH.
dents which had beets referred to by- the 1-10.7-:.
Gentleman. It was. necessary for him to af,6n_i.
the liatise..that it he thisuilit that any obser%B.
tints which: ie was about to maiie.woOld detrottfl.,,
hi
eolinh
ethl
aesct Ipmeritisentrelrt
no 1;1-
Itahke'ecioti: n t
The
octet
which. this,- country bud amoug foreign ofit'a
t _.s
waft due to the freedom of thonght-',tindtorrq.ti:rel.
weof understanding hy which it was
But: were apt,. perhaps, .Oftert.io 0-1717,1100 tee 6 5
1.
limits of duty, by following the impulse-O
feeling. 'Speakinfr on this as.wroPO°°./ 47, -I,ll3:iint
disguise his, ovstiv7hOoest .fecli.ng, if._ he. 14
'tate that the moral feelings of the couutrY

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ancit as to afford instances, of inter(oAnce, which,
unless checked by the good
might deprive us of. 'the eiiiiivantages now derived
.train" the influence Witt li we-,enjOyed
among foreign fowlers,' and Oil the-Continent • of
Itrope. lie desired that he thiglit.not be tinder.-
stood as alluding to any particular cirettinstance,'•
inlringing forward what he was about rnett.,
tion• lhere was a feeling, ahroadi,that .in. this
comatry there,w.as,a.stroug disposittnn.tointerfere
in the concerns of foreign nations, anti to dictate
ill those measures which did nut exactly squard
with our own notion. , In the:same proportion
as-the nations of the (:ontinetit-614d'us th-eir
titude they would withdraw it, ivbiiithey
build upon it, forthe purpose of clic-tilting 'to them',
in'the relpilatioh 'of then- internAlaliairS/1-lear,
bear, hear.!). As'io the p'recedent, 'cited .by: the
Honourable Gentle Man, Of IhaThrterference, of
the House on behalf of the • Royal'Edmily of.
Fritiee,the lion.'Gentleman -seemed- to' ttirtl
thifif the British iqinister had then reinaine'd'litt
Paris,' that .dreadfut tragedy
prevented, But as Jitactical precedent, the flop,
Gentleman vvitOieryunfortunate. in 'adducing- this
as 'a proOf of theeffidacy oldie 'interference of the
house, when It 'WAS iectilletted thin it had been
followed by the death oralitioSt every member Of
thiVretreh Royal 'Fatuty tllcltt, hear I.) Itto
alluding to other, sitiitlac eases, the-lion: Gentle.:
luau had gone as:far back as the reign of Queen'
• Eliistbeth ; of. the -interference-
inlliese Cases with to..exert the inflneneeof the
colintry onibelialf of the' PriKettants Ott tlie Cola'
ticent. The iincilerence. of this t °witty tben,.,
was rendered necessiiuy by the previous interte.r,
time of the 'See of 4orne; and it Was tOrepa its
attacks that u c were" 'oliqged, irt out awn de
fillie;A6'stippo't t the.Protesfatit interest. • It was
a case of intetterence_bottourtttort 'the rmentice of.
a lior,eign:..ktafe.against our best. Ally. The last
e:tse 'Or interference alluded tv by the Honour=
able one in.' ,it had taken
iduce,oinlci- a to,tal misconception of .tlie faCts
'there were no Spiv:olio of any, combination. of
the Catholic .against the Protestant -POWera
oil, the co9trary„ the proceedings of the (4)n-
grcts at 'Vienna would show, that there never
*as a time When the, religtons, of, the different
States were less embattled against Carib other.---
• •
There eould 'be nothing more fatal or ,calainitritis
thrill thu. I'el'►i4l of a.sysfettiatic contest between
the Catholics and Protestants ; and there might.
have .beettreasUn to deplore the injudicious: inter-
Jere:ice of sonic; pto:soits in this country;
.art there
. •
tha th
.was ri,k t ose religious, feelings, tinforto-
.
stately
~1O this. cotintry,, might Caught
1.. a Loy. a. a. hale. view
it of the case to which
L ..Y
Ile os itil4,4,ltigiiproce.eyleti from
Puiatiwit atpt instttiatovereign—iltat benevolent ,
Soieirign—for ,p,sch she, would atttays call
because such Ate wt.--.(tear, ktear, bear, heat
• afixett i..tetinAo to recal that act of t44cration
,Never .was,thete.ail tnipu-
tatiun • tuenuio,pit.fact, ,Ti u ,'the nfortunate Cir.
• thgsnititti of which gate
one par t iced! 4p.ot ;
hart 'ti. is .1i1c41.,11 t;CI 1411 .was mistaken :for
• tibea:se, t►u this mistake,' sonic
hid ititertercn by
addrei4ea t,tie Uilferept departments' of
prtsitig the.,irassistance. , What Was tits
consequence led ,Erat•ltreptitliated.the
iLitett,isuce ; not, from any, want of sense of the
benevolent nitcjniu..,,, .hut tutu the conviction
tinkt. it t% as,ratlicr calculated to increuic the C4lir
r
valor. ,better,, too, w,cie atiduessed tie-all fife di,-
triets of .Friiict4' althOn. it It was only in one vet y
. . r
*itt#ll. biiot that uTiuse latkiviitable sCitlei• had taken
~,id in the very nett,,,,libotirliood_of that spot
the l'iutesta'uts and Catliplica had acted tskget her .
with t he iii must rot dialify, No wonder, rhet,, that •
they were siirpr,sed to receive letters tram Eng-.
land„.written on the Oppositiou that thrtiogliout •
Viatice the l'rotestaUts autl Catholics were actually
!ti arts against each other. As to what the iio,i.
Centleinan had siltt alidin the Slave ..rtatt, it 44[0!
fteitiM4utetipon the finestion.,The St‘a ve TraAlkivak,
Tit eol out of the class. It was a ttiaoppAC,
mouton interest to all nations.. There want,:Etso:
interference concerning it sehich at all reltit4tl344
.10estion li-etween sovereign and subject,- ,or
-*Mgr involved any such discusion'witir foreign
rowers, in !tic most remote way. lronly related
to a common question. of-general policy, on witith
each Go% ti iiincot was of cui)4tse,.tit liiterty to ad-
dress to any outer such, reninns.totude us aright be
thought moat eaictihttedto,o4tnili
(litthe Whole,. as to the Precedents- adduced. by
the ,149 p, upittigiott, tie ,litoed that' In. Woillti
tee, that tlitt-ea,eB which he had adduced :bud'no
inttnetli.ato refat ion to. the.!eiticstioti or thm,ir
they. dirt touch. the prattical griestion; -that
the. re .nit was: against tile measures which the
Getirkinan.Verit:itinnetided. Did it, follow,
trootall thathe bad said; that it' 'a .CiriVernmetit
oPrienached another in a six'ait of conciliation Mid
of Mandate or tlicttt.iori;-.-out in a
tone of insult or injury—ntit in a way. to vilify
it Hi a,State,—itor :in any .of-•these Words, but
In the 'Spirit of friendship' and ..erttleable coon-'
sel,—did ic follow that such. s'eourst oteonditet
was, inexpedient ? Lie disclaimed .pushing-the
principle so' tar. In talking'of titTsittistion of
bpain, the- Honourable Geittlemanitad been pleas-•-:
ed to call the Cortes, the .Britigh Cortes ; aqd
then proceeded to what was rather anew view of
the cuie, hvconsidering us boned with respect to
o
themo assent chants anti figliti which etiold uot.y
tie maituained as against' their Sovnreigtf without
alcttialfy goint; to war.. .But
point of fact, his
Ilaicsty's Government had liot been vranting • to!
ohtt of interfireneetivi lrehal fa these iidwvldtt;il ''
• ff the Gtivertinfetrf iviiS.sifiterely disposed to
eel 49Y its efforts, it could' do a great deal
Ivay, which could never be effected by.the species
7f ii.terilo6ition recommended by the
t,iet„,„
edr' ;he," l)--Broad differences bad been
el' toe Brit'sh Government and the Cortes,
it did it 1 : front • • • • s
•• Prevent ministers intettering us
far as
• was iit their poiver, to Mitigate those tills-
'f°llll.l.le3 t Whial ' ithe'lreai of party rage
theY'had beet exposed to. It was -always the
duty of ry,"-Veriiillent to it-net-fere for the purpose,
of '-.
lePFeren',ing the increase of party rage;- but in
" Present ease; the htittstl Government -found
thoTi
'e=ves"pirti 'I ' to de 10--(Heltra
te44, , unit
hz' Bear papers:and doeuments -,:het:
Tullect we.
re 110 t ,01-tt litattrt cu enalilcUiL4t,e42o

at this time to lay thrin upon tic tittle of the
; bittlf th4-itjOrthi believe Mtn; 'thage-pa
pirs'iiturld-protre ttfat Government had eathergone '
beyond the ihnits of the duty the :extent to
which - they-W pushed irirrterferetice.—(Hear,-
r,
hear:).-zWhile heaohnitted this.country had been.:
teiteharked, in. CoMMOTt CHUM %%it)) tb r. Cortes, he.
say that it was going too far to say that the-
interests of this:country hadheen throughout hien-
teed tvith those of• the -Cortes, or- eveo au tar
as ID be resPoosible, for a)ly.of their, measure.
lion. Gentleman, had attempted to support
larinisettiOvs on this itibject by the ablecorres.
pundence of the Martinis of Wellesley. -Nowr,to
'this very cerrepotidenee he would -refer to con.
• traditi'Ahe :Hon. Gentleman to sinew that the.
.Cortes had nut ' acted under British infitretice..4-
Thesehoi substance Ol.that cOrrespondettariveastr
that the Cortes of: -SeVille*coilld not be got to
make-. thvellident exertions that were required:.:
:41though the party called the Libefaits- had mat*
inerits in:the eyes of this country-iilthirugh to a
certain. ,extent„ it was to be consitlereft a an
'.anti-Fieuch party, •and as inspiring the spirit,
of resistance. to' the French yoke—yet it it
was' meant to 'be-iaid. that was
„a British party,
he denied it ; and 'maintained that the- very
reverse was demonstrated by the whole course
of it.v conduct during: the war. He would
take one instance of this. -At -one of the most
glOriotti Periods of that splendid military career :of
`the Duke of Wellington ; at the time when. he Was*
about to elimoch his army
.behind the lines of
:rotres-Vedras, that great (hiker had thought- that
be *Would be in• his-duty it he-did not,
before having recourse to this position, endeavour
-to *fix himself in sonic point witoio the spaniSh
frontier. For this -POrPobe the punt which he
chose was Cadiz, affil through the Cortes he was
refused admiAstou to it.. 1 his single instance front
among many, was enough to- disprove; what the
Hon, Gentietna:: had said as to the intim:ace of
British Councils in the Cortes of Seville. As to
the conduct of .the Spanish Monarch tow urdi the
Cortes, the 'Llon. Gem lemon had asserted what
was contrary to the whole history of that kingdom,
•When he trail sind'that toe Crown bad-never so.
far trenched tquer the power of. toe Cortes., . Thee
transactions in Spain anorded a memorable lesson
to those who wished to correct- partial imperfec-
tions, by the_toial" subversion- of an established
system,.
,The Cortes thought that they would best
effect their purpose by overturning the entire Lin-
den( *system of the kingdom, and 'especially by
merging the whole class of: the Nobility and Clergy
io the third-estate, according to the example of
the JacobidS (a-Trio-tee. it was to't his that most
qt the calamities of Spain were to be attributed.
At the. saute time he concurred a nth the Honour-
able Gentleman in thinking, that there aere many
;illostilous'illinnbers of the 0114es:who tot med
',eeetions Ao' the general character of
-that hotly ;
- and that there was no man more sensible of toe false
• stepi takenhy them, titan the distieguished huh vi-
dual 'whoa the Hon. Gentiemaa hatt-mentamed.
The extreines to Which the Cortes-lad prOceeded
naturally caused a very
.violent re-action, and the
consequence of the great-swing which the Spanish
Government had Wield!) thedireetion ofdacobinism
under their management, was,
.that .now, 'under
its SOVereign,-it* had* taken as 'violent a swing ill*
the` direction of despotism: might .he stipposeil
that during the Government at the Cortes, whom
-.the Hon. Gentleman hat( described as
,so impli-
,enly under Britisli infleenee, none 'of lhosd
vnortnitieS- bad taken place' Spain which
were now so much reprobated., But -the very
contrary was the case. Many of the (mortal-
ties whialt. • _had_ lately been -.perpetrated must .
be' attributed to what was done by the Cortes,
and the prevalence of that party among them
called the Liberates, who, in a military point-of
view, %% ere an anti-French party, but politically
were a French party of tile very worst th-scrie-
• They- had declared that they wutild not
ii.a4lait Ferdinand's right to the throne, -Illness 1,0
put his seal to the
.principles which they lent
.down, and among the rest, to that of tLe Save-
..,reignty being in tile people.- The Liberal's were
a perfectly iliteobinical party in patiaDt principle.
Hehad no widi to recriminate en the 1-ion.. Gen.,
,41eitatto s:hut- really it
.was something very- stew,
to hear *from the other side of the • House so
Mitch in praise of-'tire-Cortes, when it was recol-
lected, that from that very. quarter it had ;
been*the practice to overwhelm them with every
_Dtrprobriotts•epithet--.--with cont wisely and scorn.
(flear,lteart) Stich was I he kind of langtiirge Which
ruthe•Gentletnewoothe other side of the House were ,
the habit of bolding towards these very Cortes;
'"'.1111 their acts had been ,cOured at—their efforts for
tl emaneipation 'of their countryfied been 'necked-
itheS7 11114 beettealled a set of DoirQuiXotes fight.
in
.against-wilt-mills. These were the tributes ,
nd applause and respect which the Cortes had been
ini the habit'at reeel6i4 frotnthe other sidelif rthe
Houk., (Hear, bent, hear !) But when be now" was
obliged- to state the question against .the, Cortes, .
wished to' estimate fairly the diffieeltics and
faults on ; 'tl►'oti ;ii there-certainly was no
reason why theyshotd&be -*addled - With
cohis to 'which, the proceedings of the' Cortes
bOd Nothing; Was more glorious and distill-
•gtiiitheil Ili the 'Spanish eharacter; than the devo-'
thin- With Which- they gliitf theriiselees-up to their-'
*critmtry in- the contest for expelling- the invader-
`But then, to describe thew lending themselves
tt us,---to say that Spain had lent herself to us
to s"e ti contrary to 't be Tact. 'Spain degied her.'
'self to us-; ands here war:to he seen the difference -
id- this respect het ween.the conduct of Spainaud
',Portugal. The latter lent herself to us,—she-
gave' herself 'wholly 'to us in expelling. the
Frotly,•antrthe'conseqeenee was, that she Was.
dated.- -But -Spain never .bad done so, but had
indutributed to her own liberation, by her free
iliirit.'There walbue pregnant fact on this sub
lest to Which hewouldeall' the attention of the
1-Incise. Among the Cortes existed; a determined
diipositioo to withdraw from die Duke of Welling-
ton the win:inland of thenatiMial troops'whie'b:lsretl
been given to, bilis by a deliberate
•aet of the Stale.' The consequence of this
was, that the: matter came to this.'rata- .
Mitons Imre,- -that the fluke of Wellington was
forced; in the very filiddio of a campaign-, to de.
date that' if the' authority which had been:'so.
„toady confided- to him was not- fully continued,
YtQ !Youlti CO0111411(1 Spauish

rote

Army altogether, ant! contend with the 4.,
yith only:tite,Britigh `troops.` ..And 11;4s Cnttt,”,,
.completelyhilluenced by. th,
1 repreSeoi4il„
vernrUent,and
lion. Genilemap, the Cortes.,' rts.orveil fo,
continue the corionaiiil in the Duke of'Wellington
by ooly, the„stuall)pity of 4;;G VOieri t 1.1(:
tlitieri iinCettly tilt! 1111',1,.1 rt to les to xVLiich these ill.:
t fated mid is now exposed; but truth compelled
liiul to state, that 00 the querstionurt'ontmuing
theDolic.of Wclliagton iu the cohonand of the
Spanish army, the minority
,who voted against: it
was eomposen en; ;rely OF- Lit,er a les. It Wits Among
that part of the &4:thish- pe6plc wlibiivere .tie
Peak- enlightened :in the nrinciples.of the French,
Revolution—it was in the higher orders, the no.,
bility and ,the clergy, that the British fount! the
most pirwerfel assistance 'in conducting the war'
for-the expulsion Of the. French. Ministers had
interfered. in. behalf of these unfortunate in-
: dividnals to the tullcst. extent- in which 'they•
.
could possibly have been ' justified;' and the
system of interference meted upon up to'
- this drsnot merely by representations through
tier Ambassador. Sir 1-leery Wellesley, ktio%y -
jog 'hOiv" the Goverirtnint 'felt itpoh.
the .subject, ' interfered An :every: possible
way ; nay, he bad gone su far its....tiiiteny all pe-
euttiary- eidomless meestirespfiless,rigorotis na-
ture were adopted toward` the individuals in
question, and unless some reasonable expecta-
tion. was held out to Spain, that the promise
which the King had made of giving to the peo-
ple a freeGoyernmeut, should be fulfilled. The
lion.:Gernieman was completely mistaken it he
supposed that -it was by means of British mondy,
i that the Spanish Monarch had been.enabled to
proeeed to such enormities. So far ; Was this
from being this case, that the only scam which
I had been advanced to him by the British Go.
vernment, between, the beginning of April, Isll,
1-(w hen "he left Valency to return to Spain),
I amid December, Was 'toot thotriand dollars ;
and small 'sum had been advanced by
the :authority,: of ;our. Ambassador,. to defray the
Mere table. expenses of the King :—nay, ,it had
, been advaneed upon the suggestion of One of the
• Liberitles.• All pecuniary'aidlront this country was
refused until positive information were given on
o.points -as .to the measures adopted to
the prosoribed ;. and secondly; as 'to
the promise of a tree Groverombit, held'eu t. in
the King's Proclamation:. As to: what .11a& been
' said of the conduct of one individual (Gen. Wit-
tinghain), he thought it impc!ssible that it could
be of any iniportanee, he'wns placed in 'such
a situation as to be of course obliged to obey his
orders. But he --woof.r.l tell. the, I,lonourable
Gemtleman what the British
,Amba,Sador had
done. The Ambassadbr declared, that the Duke
of Wellington .tvo,ild never lend 1141'44:11,10
any such purpose as
,that which the Spanish'
.Monarch had in view. At the: saute time,
the AmbassidOr iepeated his advice to*the
"to accept theConstitut ion which had been-proposed
. to hint, with all itsfaults; reserving• to hiluselt:the-
pOwer of altering it. The liati. Gentleruau had
described this Monarch (before. Whom he worild
have the Prince Regent to appeTer, if not as ti sup.-
pliant, at least with a menace of war)—as ,acting
all along from the time that he had entered Spain,
upon the Treaty of 'Valency. Yet Ferdinand had all
along,prutestvl against and divAvoweclehtkt Treaty'.
If the Hon. tneant,to say that Ferdinand had
gone into Spain with the deliberate, intention of
overthowing the tortes, lie , would .state in con,
tradietion to thii, uod on theautirdfrity of
,Sir
, Wellesley, that Ferdinand came into Spain with the
deterovued purpose of accepting the Crmstit t
and it. was only when lie fOund what the real state
of tne nation was, and that the Constitution would
not he congenial to the; feehugs,,of the people of
Spain, that 'he had determined not to accept
To referragain,to the.part which tire 'Cortes had
taken in the ,liberation of, pain, the maintenance
of the particular constitution Which they trained---.
the merging of the nobility in the third estate,
and the degradation of the..Churai: , had, during.
the whole contest,-.been hanging dead weioftt
upon the nation, and had greatly connteracted all.
its efforts. ;When the King retitintiti,: and
extl-
imuned the feelings,of the nation,, he ;found loin-
self ;surrounded by the whole impulse 4-natiothil
feeling !whist. the Constitution. While this
feeling vas operating, a great:.Deputation of
the Cortes waited upon him, praying his Ma-
jesty not to accept that Constitution which
the majorityof the tante tortes rhart. declared:it
would be a forfeiture of the Crown to reject. To
give one-small instancestSaftetl,reiltreteruipitii-olawri,acY,
toof
he might
-Madrid, his carriage, was drawn from Aranittez
(thirty miles), by the people. Whets the -Consti,,
tution of the:Cortes was, destroyed by hint, Otte
was not-a-mormur in Spain ; .for iu tact the pea,
pie were more attached to .some of those pee
culiarities their :ancient Constitution, which
we thought defects, .than the people of
country to the most perfect part of our free
Cimatitution. Euoughbad passed , :Ole „world
within-the, last 'thirty yeirslo prove, that in or
+let to amend defects. the way was not, to lir°,
ceed
,by overturning the whole fabric. For his
Own- par 4 he woOld always regret that 'the King
,of •Spain bad not the means., after his return; "of
carrying into effect the Declaration of the 4th of
May, as it contained all the principles 'of u just
and 4ce Government. lie hoped however that it
tulgitt yet be effected, But if there was atiy,thing!
,calenlated to place at err intertninable distance the,
period when.. this tfesirable event should take
place, it was this country taking the part of 1,4
one faction in that nation against the other,,,
We were too much disposed- to magnify tire 'evil
of the moment. This was not, the only periad
ins vhich there had been Similar Occimtrenees in
. Eyerr. the -authority. Of the tortes
were now to be re-eittihlished, he was'-iifraid
this would not purge Spahr frOM eneratities.-4;
Many .of :the .acts of. the :ortes had been of
the mos-t cruel 'kinil-7-nbliorrent to ell [Mina-.
- Of Ibis hewould mention some instances.
—The 0" first that occurred to` hint were
the cases of ;Generals Palatax-and Abisb!,ll. - The
latter of these lsmie officers, - hecauie; he, had
written a paniphlet atainit the Cort€S; hall beets
by them Cast' into prison,` and aftern.a4lo,
oat arty trial, banished for ever from' !Spain
Wlica t DYCruieut of Caatit igwattvitid

exclpt
aoand.. I%),listhcalaiste,
ntyhesotvrth,oolfe
tvv.riearle,. phi int ohitell r:
the "Cprfeti appointed by we Oc.si'itelleed tam.
-
be ituprisoned .and (Loud cries "f
bear, hear., bear 0 —General Valafox
a dungeon in Minorca,
.where %Its. •C!'"ned
by the
;Cfirteg. - Besides . tLcse.,'ti e, Bislt^a,o
()Tense, than wheat there wets net. • a more.
pure. nod. •-excelleni character,.. ',f.haviug,' been a
MeMber of th., Cortes, and relet'si..g to sign the
paper in which that bout Stat.ed. the dartrille'of
the sovereignty of the people, be lykti intrnedi•i,tely
displaced from his Bishopric; and was
.torced to
take refuge in 'Portugal to save his life..(llear„
hear, hear 0' 'These were the nets of the Codes
• ,and chewed" What Was the boaste.d..purity in the ad.
ministration of atriiii.s evinced b\ this body, who,
torsooth; 'Were. said to have iieted under Ltritisli
fluence; and were thus celled (surely fin the fit' At.
thne), theliritishCortes.—(ltear, hear 0-11 the
British Government hall not interposed with tha. •
"Goyerntnent Of Spain, he could understand that a,.
lesson tiff:denerosity might have heLii taught
But if the cascl'ad bLen set,
,any
Member in bringing the matter befOre the !louse
would, he, thought, .:have proceeded diikrently
from the course adopted by. the' Elontlurah'.e (icn-
tiewan. however, a ot the
Crown statad to Parliament that the t3riti th.. CGo•
vernment had interfered, and th4l the four
' .great Powers of Enropc had instructed their
nisters at the Court of Spain to interieie, to all
great an extent as was consistent with pi opriety
(Loud cries of,, Hear, hear, front all of the

;
thelfOuse were now to 1 itself 1
ss
.such a purpose as that intended by the
Gentleman, it woidd Only prevent any chance.:, of
-success«. Considering the motion 10 Otl 1.19 V.
riant.4hie one in point of ptilicy and .e‘in'gt, that
the, Hon na
. Gen:lein had not taken ,the.
(as to
inquire what had been done; ,considefiny;, 1.00.
that the motion ,would disqualify- Wily:, rpinent
from future intertetence with success, lie c onio,red
the House, not to take a' t:4lsv step o i'tla is occa-
sion: They wet c now on the ese per-haps the
most important discussion that had cver, brenelif
titled 4011 ving flit; gcneral
tions 01„04: country with the Powets of lintope.Mkt ,
this moment, therefore., there was nothing mutt
importa“ thou. to preserve that character and in-.
finence which the country had, v‘ith the other Eo-
lopettn.Powers,Lipt there: was a spit-it dignity
throughout 4urope that would not.
0, rap dio po-., •
ir-:1"-..:114141J4,,OVelhealingly taught LI -.
they
,ought to .traill3pire.' only through thq,
wisdom 2f,our councils., If •we began To assume
dietatoriaj thoclion towards, other. Powers, eve
should become object. of deserved Ala:red.—.
hear !)---The •tuna: onnl4
not devi4en mode of interference wire cKletdateti
'utterly to inin the unfortunate persons in whose
behalf it was' intetuted. On these and all thu
gioundsite had: stated, he never found hiunkif
caller( uj►ou to give a More paramount or stronger
'negative to any.: inotionet--(Lotui and continued
cheering), .

Lout J. Russia:l, was glad to bear that the
interferenCe of the Briti;b Government had bceni,
exerted; but was satisfied th►it nothing hut ad-
vantage oottld result Worn the expresiiun of the
sense of Parliament. `,

Alderman,•Surrti -was' of opinion, that the.
Noble Lord's statement proved thar.Ministers bad
tleat.Wal I.ossihk., and that 'any attempt
to urge them to further`interposition tuusChe at-
tended with daDeenus consequences.
General MATIi
TeiEW said, he would 'not ve*
spoked on this rat casion, if it were not for the
extraordinary opinion, delivered hylhe Nit Speaker,
an opinion whiell had not, however, the merit
originality, us it had been thrown- out on a fuesier
oecAtion,. and been Most triumphantly answered.
•,by the able arguments'of his Learned Friend, who
broug ht, forward Inc present motion, For his
part, lit ly,oultl further add, that hdwever
.Il4inistcrs.• attglit dictate to . .o.reign Tyranta
%villa course they, should_ pursue, it sii‘ttilcl
never prevent him, or the independent Mimbers,
(„, the same side of the house, from rakiug their
Voices whenevrr justice and ft hew.), :equired
Ire would ever maintain the right of sbc, commons'
to jmigethe,crime, l's ahroAq as well as at
flume.. (hear 1) The influence of the:r debates on
the Coot went), he ou•ierved, was very,c9psiOrawe
(hear, hear !) and it was therefore, reasonable to
expect that their interference on this oecasiots
would province much effect. The lion.(4entlemari
inveighedAstronly against the tyranny: of Perin-
mind, owl p'hp agttitiq the conduct pnrined by this.
Goveratnent during the loft ,twenty-five years..
'What was
lulu. •
'la ) t
ask .1
—The answer was, an telyoo evident
the effect of that eunditet, lie would
in the general distress and bankrup:ey throughout'
the coantry, as would appear on the itivestigation,
which was to Jake place on Monlay se'attight,,
was sorry,. indeed, that a longer notice had
'licit been givers tor, the sake of his cto utryuleti, the
Members foi Ireland., who he feared, would not
• have money to defray their eXllellevs 4tt that time.
(A ,hlugland, said the lion. gentle.
unan,•'' ye •eau collect half your rents ; Ireland,
we 'coo •get no part
rot' 'lieut.-7(A loud laugh.)
Mr.,litittNeTT vindicated the character of rise
Liberales,, who had shown 'the most marked pre—
lerenee and admiration for this country.
opiniona ,of thi4t Honse were freaked up to by.
every country in Europe), and the nfotion of iais
I tun. Friend only called for no earnest of their
favour .of the Patriots in Spain. -
Mi. Bitonatiast, ita rvply, acknowledged that was tAlten by surprise•iu be,tring 4. the inter.
positionjit-4qitlktors •trith the. §pauilh Govern.,
ment—aYpt9itittiiltstiee' which lie Was tStoniShett
had nut transpycd* before the present moment. lc
looked as it the .Nolole food,' locked up in the
triumphant tone of his (tetrnce, wished•to entrap.
rouse Menther into tt debate on the subject). The
fronoorable and Learned Cattleman here -roCA a

revievi of the different Treaties made by this Coto,
try with Spain, in some of ,which express stiptt*
lations were made relative to the Slave Trade, 414
other' subjects,' and not one appeared in layout of
toe suffiring Sponitthis. it was not- surprising,
therefore, if he and others had concluded that no

*
step bad been tkiien upon t case. e. now
wi%ned of the-Nohle i4orti ‘vbetbef we had
ikvariably ipieffereti, ant,eeedently to latupeeeta..
ber, %%ien 'rertiinand bad: orbit own oce,!n,
, „
uutrrea 'ine junpflat functions c his people to-qs