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admit the force of its tactics, employed Jesuits and c'her
orders of relives; inch ii, the w 0: k of consersion. He did
not recollect in the 'reticle-Cringe ;.f civil histay of- any en-
dowed parochial clergy r ffecting any great week ef prssel)tisin.
10 Ireland there were many strong reasons why the clergy
should not busy themselves in works of conversion ; they were
a visibly endowed clergy and had no great motive for zeal, and
accordingly the Bible, through which they meant to proselytise,
had not been translated into the Erse language until 123 years
after the Reformation, and then it had not been translated at
the expense of the Irish Protestant Church, but at the private
expense of that greet and good -man, Robert Boyle. The
Right Hors, Gentleman then quoted the opinions of Dean
Swift as to the idleness and riches of the Protestant clergy, and
observed that it would be remembered how the revenues
of the richest sees in Ireland were squandered on the shores of
,the Mediterranean ; and his epistles were to be found, not
ITLke those of Peter to his flocks, but in the correspondence of
'Y Hamilton. What a contrast between the ministers of
the one Church and those of another-the one revelling in
Wealth, and with nothing to do, and the other visiting the
couches of the sick in their wretched cabins, and from scanty
means ministering to their temporal as well as spiritual wants.
Thei Right Hon. Gentleman then quoted the opinions of Mr.
e tone regarding the expediency of a State Church, and the
Denefits and evils of the voluntary system, and observed that
the Irish Church hod exemplified all the evils which Mr.
Hume said belonged, not only to the State Church, but
the voluntary system ; for it had, on the one
band, a wealthy and indolent priesthood, and on the other,
ministers whose, position forced them into every description of
excitement and agitation, The Right Hon. Gentleman went
On to speak, of the miseries which Scotland for twenty-eight
tall had endured under a Protestant State Church, when
rds Lauderdale and Dundee commanded there, and asked
what the condition of Scotland would be, if the established reli-
VI of this country were yet kept up in Scotland-the same
uter feelings of enmity which existed between the people of
Irelandei and England would exist between those of England and
bei'st'and, and England, dhtracted by those divisions, ince?.d of
"g first in the rank of nations, would be inferior to many now
reh beneath her in power, and influence, and dignity.
ni what was the result which these proceedings had
_4:ought about? Why, that Ireland, instead of proving a part
tdlaiet strength had proved the weakness of the empire.
n would they think of a physician who having two
Patients suffering under precisely the same complaint, had for
4. long time prescribed the same remedies for both, but having
angel his course of treatment, and having found that it
Cured Cured very remedy which not only abated the evil, but which
. the disease, yet refrained from adopting the same
heaveles for the other patient ? They would believe that either
s dishonest to his profession, or that he had taken
,hie his senses. And why was it that the same principles
WithuthaPplied to physic should not apply to pelitics
le,itaPression that what was good fur one portion of
the luP.l Was good for another, he should give his support to
what tre ion of his lion. Friend. It was not for him to say
moste Larger measure should be, but it was because the plea
cup for vested rights, fur which he entertained the
of h; „resPect, that he should give his support to the motion
res "00. Friend.-( Hear, hear.) Such was the plea of a
would Ministry • but their proceedings on this qu stion
me.ll.lu give them a clue to the policy of her Majesty's Govern-
-I,_" and would give them a handbe of which they would rof
eiv_low to avail themselves. He was not ores of those dere-
ih:7ll, but he would tell the Right Hon. Baronet that he
.was
r".ga lesson to Ireland which it was bad for a ruler to give,
"
lc
w,,,,„1
obtainto
concessieu within was to agitate for it without.
ei"„"ta,t Was it that had obtained the concesfion of Catholic eman-
p: 'um, but the agitation which tied been occasioned by the
meenntch revolution ? And what was the conaleet of the Govern-
!orbit, in"? They ware allowing every measuee ;shifts,
that u Opposition, they had most strenuously opposed-
-5 PulicY for which Fox, and Grattan, and Grenville, and
5 disteforce, had battled, for the granting a which, during the
poertileteertriwoul2onthe, they possessed peculiar advantages.-(Great
'.!,at had been the course of the party now in
Be‘i ?,Why hat they had, when in opposition, opposed every
a, which, when in pivkr, they had been the most strenuous
eser
`rtu?cates for. But what, on the ether hand, had been the conduct
e party opposed to that?-wDY, thet they had redeemed
Y
topledge which they had given when they were in a:position
reader that redemption useful, and it was from noparky pur-
e, but simply from conviction, that he gave his support to
present measure. Did Hon. Members suppose that if the
monster meetings had never taken place, er if there had been
88s
.__utsturbance in America, that the same measure fs:r concilia-
I",:sould ever have been introSuced.? For an answer to this
eluf‘lttey, they need only rater to what had been the conduct
.!ne Gocs.rnment now in power when they assailed the Go-
plefinnent Lc; rd Normanby ? Where would have been the
r7eut measure but for the opposition from Mr. O'Connell
b " the Pope ? He had Omed the conduct of the Irish Mem-
a.r! lin 1843. He had been led into the conviction, that
than
duties were to be performo by Members of that House,
euestiohne agitation of the public mind, e: the discussion of 1041
a ; and he thought that the Irish bye,:
ben fibers would have
eoetter fulfilling their duty to their country by
u"leritntsirylaces in that House, than by directing the move-
;ss!tending
lee to ?'"Y party in Ireland, however great He had been
for
wpsraise the conduct of the lion. Members for Dungarvon,
doe heomrnon, and for Waterford, for rendering as they had
t e advantage of those counsels which all allowed to be
great to
rug to thehis publicf service, which would otherwise, accord-
conception have been dissipated
popular dejartura aetrions; but he: had learnt to believe
that the best place in which
serve his country an Irish Member could
_ ntry was not within the walls of the British House
of Commons, but amid the patriotic supporters of the Concilia-
tion Dublin. The
of Ireland till Government had been insensible to
the
awake•lalma
_ ri tired them to a
Could they the disturbances in Canada had
tish empire recollection of the value of Ireland to the
th 1. •
o ic could entertain expect that any Irish Roman Ca-
tholic any very greai the
a Leasure at bearing
American frontier was disturbed, when he knew
. that such
!....thsturbance would lead
to a restitution of hi. own rights
WHiethWtohuelidr ask, with their knowledge of the national character -
they cold acquaintance of the national susceptibility, whether
keeed d possibly expect that any uneasiness should be awa-
w• e, _ 03, the disturbance of the Canadian empire ? The policy
but" Government seemed to be to yield nothing to reason
the everything to force, and the measure now before
ofthe „Reuse had been granted rather from a conviction
forrait necessity of the measure, than from any strict con-
the
_3' with their predetermined opinions. Such had been
.B.,a_ see when the Irish Municipal Bill had been passed-such
ett7t elaNir when the grant for Maynooth was under conside-
dGeld they now say that the position of the Este-
bl'the •
Church was no grievance ? They knew that it was felt
'ltch
by the great body of the Irish people. His (Mr.
,„',acaulay'e) object in ' ; 1 •
ns support to this moth sn was
,Thresnder the union hetween the two countries one of pleasur-
Znzsent ; and his cpinion now, as it was when he was a
thowd
be
the Government, was that the principles of justice
Justice 'e respected, let whoever would prefer the claims of
s- • ; and he would do the same thing now freely, fairly, and
rziisslutently, if the whole of the American frontier were
g with the flames of war.-( Hear, hoar.)
to be camp, under a new Bonaparte, were
tette_ , found at Boulogne, and England had to
her with the whole world in arms to preserve
GoveLace among the nations-he would say to the
withhold you grant, grant freely ; but, what you
d, withhold firmly ; for, it they granted to concession
c:o"nlitoth.ey Withheld from reason, they were only multiplying
aint, and juhst.ifying discont;nt.
.For nm. onths he had
Tato he
e=hole ma,
mer for carrying this motion into full effect.
of theep Feted that the Right Hon. Gentleman the Chancellor
Lee_ sxchequer would
"IA that reply that they were unable to
tempted at which unthreatened they never at-
%mile ' and that the Government now in power
espe'L he, ready to sink all considerations for present
the G ; and then, when convictions opened upo. n them,
overe •
(lk , with the Right Hon. Baronet at its head,
theluSeatnerstheniselves to be dragged ihrough their difficulties
ntly opposed honest men whose policy they had once vire.
u!an for s 0 and were now ready to adopt. He blamed no
;elm..
induced
change in opinion or policy, when that
s induced by a difference of circumstances or an in-
vseui., to knowledge. He knew not if the Right Hon. Baronet
the
%A ~1 Yetily te the
lan A, many taunts which he had heard, or that
atteee,i ce.tor of the Exchequer would express his sense of the
euini g 3 which he had to endure ; though he might be in-
W,_ed to relieve th
4',` not his . a One or to commiserate the other, yet. it
ash. to business to remove them. lie would not allow him-
vse
peak in
' t ho any terms of their public proceedings ur to ad-
Itruld w the public peace was to be pre eared ; yet he
Litt orethat if the next mail were to bring a notification
land te gun was occupied-if there were a rebellion in
Ire-
the *Morrow
eateeio , and a fleet of thirty French sail of the line
Steeiun g the American frontier-he would grant no more to
las neeetrall he would to justice, her he would grant all that
"Man& without force, and all' that justice had a right to
Sir
ARIES
111 own feelings
GRAHAM said that, if he had consulted only
/loose and wishes, he should not have addressed the
dek-eatesat_ittl,l upon the present occasion, as he had in former
the la_ addressed them at very considerable length upon
little, lief subject, and he was conscious that he now could offer
'utieh 01:z:riling new upon the question. But the speech
last House had heard from the Right Hon. Member who
oralli'vae rendered it imperatively necessary for him (Sir J.
1414 us), Bolding as he did a high position in the Govern-
, se
trouble them very shortly. He did not think it would
Itigl:teettari for him to advert to all the topics embraced the
112eires8e4"..Gentleman's speech, having on a former occasion
"'Nest, a himself to the House with reference to that very
;.urprised nd he confessed he could not help feeling somewhat
Wward considering the nature of the two measures brought
ett4nediatoishe,r Majesty's Government-measures intended as
eider "---ne repeated that he was somewhat surprised that,
:-'entie..•e_ Peculiar circumstances, the Right Honourable
str sellei4 should have brought to their consideration
warners, 7 PartY feeling.-(Cheers.) Thu Right Hen. Gen-
P:414 be nath 5 address, concluded with a hope that justice
Bd. that
meted out to Ireland, but the peculiar ex-
h, 110_ at hope from a person of high authority like the
let to u. Gentleman appeared to him (Sir J. Graham)
b: of theereate an evil impression out of doors. In the mat-
te_ (Sir j. on. Gentleman's sentiments regarding reproof,
that Graham) from his heart agreed ; and he believed
%last of Government, entrusted by her Majesty with the con-
!ltore er"s.4e affairs, would think or act otherwise. Nay,
tam a't":_ue,lieved that a majority of the people-not of Eng-
!ktrev.sn wetland, but of Ireland also, were resolved to the last
nedoirY to preserve the union of the two countries pure and
,14.11, With that sentiment be need scarcely say he cor-
ked 'treed -4 sr
Int ' hear.) But her Majesty's Government
they It:,educed to the Horse a measure, of conciliation, and
POlie„. u,eapressed their intention of pursuing a conciliatory
aapti4 He (Sir James Graham) agreed with the opinion
for led by the Right Hon. Gentleman, that in concilia-
teLmeasures of this kind the rule of Government ought to
the tretaltr..a.n.t them to a sense of justice, but to refuse them to
ulesssore7s of agitation. With respect to this particular
eatnetedifr.!'e Right Hon. Gentleman had said that it was
ti,se,„m the fear of Government, and not from its jus-
t (Hear,)ueru How different was the sentiment of the Gallant
uuasore the Meraber for Marylebone, that he woeld not
eaten porter, them on that question if he thought it had heen
eisee'r, ed from the fears of her Majesty's Government.--
t_rtg e'.) lie would say il:at this measure, so far from hay-
efere_atorted by agitatimis-or so far was it from having
t2ght tiotelne! to a recent misunders'soding, toi which the
that
o„,• Gentleman had referred, that it hau been deter-
. 1 t ieitn4l her Majesty's Government long before, arid hefer.r
bightb Ro_uelstauding had arisen it had been announced by his
tappenfte.yriend at the head of the Government.-(Cheers.)
tthe '„unn to the Right Hon. Gentleman himself and
let at t,flel se,
iete.7 ose II his Right Honourable Friend had
of the last session of Parliaraent announced
c,,nuons of the Government with respect to this subject.
.0,14 u`lunued ecteacheers.) There were persons not politically
ek they were
the Government-he did not hesitate to name
this e,..".`"ey were the members of the Irish hierarchy, to whom
%the: f;;lgashutr:g.h,ad been announced, because it would have been
sila kind, it' "nPolicy to have brought forward a measure of
a ease u, if her
ueretios. .Would have been neglecting a most important con-
Majesty's Government had not, -in such
' consulted the heads of the Irish Church.
litlrea', hear,
tlreeuttiunfits .pedse cheers. He said, then, that this Tea-
: had cieht shape, had been communicated before
referredonth of November, to the authorities to whom
;Zed with (Cheers.) The measure was therefore pro-
itWhich tiTit the slightest reference to that misunierstanding
Ncled eheeer Right Hon. Gentleman had referred.-( Con-
es tact '.) The Right Hon. Gentleman had further
uneilia,,:ts measure had been extorted by the preeeedings of
411 t t te4 repe Haii•
al a-( Hear, hear. He would aatn repeat
gitation had keen overturned g d
i n Ireland,

nothing whetever would hove tiesitteed her Majesty's Minis-
ters to bring forward a me.e,ure of this kind. The
.ftionso r meetines had begs eeessia_ doe n. 'their lead-
ers had keen submitted to 'trial, and hied been
convict, d.— ( !leer, hear. ) He admitted that in peint
of
form, but. not. in point of merit., thet conviction had been set
aside.—( Cheers, and counter-cheers.) Law, order, and com-
parative peacefulness now prevailed in Ireland, and though the
Right Hon. Gentleman had pot a false construction on the
measure of the Right Hon. Baronet. in reference to the agita-
tion in Ireland and the misundersianding with the United
States, he (Sir James Graham) would repeat that this mea-
sure was determined on, without the slightest reference to
either of those events.—(Cheers.) If the Right lion. Gen-
tleman then was neither authorised nor justified in making
these observations, he (Sir James Graham) annealed
to the House whether measures of this kind wl, leh flue
calculated to soften existing prejudices and extend more
amicable feelings, should be blasted by such insinuations?—
(Cheers.) He for one would not envy the success which
might attend such efforts.—(Coroinued cheers.) He greatly
regretted the course taken by the Hon. Member for Sheffield
on this question. What said he of the question before the
House ? He conceded that it was a good measure, that it
ought to pass, and yet he offered an obstruction to its progress.
The Right Hon. Gentleman, the Member for Edinburgh, had
said that this was not a mere question of 26,000/., but the real
matter at issue was, what Church should reign dominant in Ire-
land, whether it ought to continue the bad without
endeavouring to make it better. The Right Hon. Gentleman,
at the same time, had pointed out that there were certain
limits beyond which her Majesty's Government should not go.
He (-amid speak fur himself, that no change of opinion, that no
argument in that. House would induce him to admit the prin-
ciple that the Irish Church was an evil in itself, and ought to
be abolished. On the contrary, he begged to state that all
reflection convinced him, that his most anxious deliberations
had confirmed him in the opinion that it was the duty of this
country to maintain the Protestant Establishment in Ireland.
He did not wish, in a matter of this kind, to spent reproachfully
of Gentlemen on the opposite side of the House.—(Hear.)
He must say of the Honourable Member for Sheffield, that
no one had argued the question with more philosophical
discrimination, unless it were the Noble Lord the Member for
London, who esirely dissented from the views of the Hon.
Member for SNffield. ( Hear, hear.) He did not know
what the opinions of the Noble Lord might now be ; but, in
1838, when the Noble Lord brought forward a measure for a
change in the property of the Established Church, he dis-
tinctly repudiated the principle of this mot ioh.—( Hear, hear.)
He ( Sir J. Graham) had heard nothing from the Right Hon.
Gentleman the Member for Edinburgh to lead him to believe
that the destruction of the Established Church in Ireland would
be conducive to the prosperity of the country, or productive of
more kindly feelings between the two great branches of the em-
pire.—( Hear.) The Right Hon. Member for Edinburgh bad
said that in America there was no Establishes( Church, bet
that there the clergy of each religion, and all the
sustenances of religion, were better upheld than in countries
in which there were established religion, and those well en-
dowed. But he would ask the House, were the conditions of
the two countries to be compared?—( Hear, hear.) He felt,
and he was sure the House would agree with him, that to carry
out an analogy would be impossible.—( Hear, hear.) That
the proposition which the Hon. Member sought to establish—
(a laugh )—was impracticable, could be proved by a reference
to the fate of those Governments in whose time the Hon. Mem-
berhad introduced it. Lord Grey's Government bail felt it ini•
possible to carry out the principle. Succeeding Governments
gave way before the overwhelming difficulty,hut notwithstanding
all the taunts thrown in the teeth of that Government, a mea-
sure relating to education in Ireland was carried without the
intervention of the principle which the Hen. Gentleman now,
for the fifth time, called upon the House to avow,—(Conser•
votive cheers.) There were others mute competent than he
(Sir J. t.iialmen) to speak upon this subject, and to go back to
the times of the Stieartal and other times to which reference
had been made. He would only say, that the ministers of the
Established Church had performed their duty.—(Cheers.)
They bad done so tender more trying circumstances than any
which could be contemplated by the opponents of this measure.
—(Hear, hear.) He admitted that it was the chief object of
an Established Church to minister to the religious wants of the
whole population. —( Cheers.) But he did net think that the
missionary character of the Established Church wooid be im-
paired by the measure of the Government ; and it was no part
of their intentlon to transfer the revenues of that Church to
the ;religion of the majority. The principles which
he had hitherto avowed he still adhered to.--e( Hear. )
He objected alike to the extreme measures of the Eight Hon.
Member for Edinburgh, and the analogous motion of the Hon.
Member for Sheffield.—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Member
for Coventry most conscientiously discarded any intention of
endowing the Roman Catholic Church in Irelariel. Lord
Plunkett stated that he considered that the Protestant Church I
in Ireland was the strongest bond of union between the two
countries. 411 he would say was this, that he at that time
foresaw, whatever their intentions might have been, that ulti-
mately this would be the consequence which we have arrived
at for the first tit:ie.—(Loml cheers,) He understood the
Member for Nottingham, ell the motion of the Hon. Member
for ffield, for assistance to the Repeats (catholic tihurch out
of the funds a the Protestant Church, to give a denial of
any such intention on his pert, Notwithstanding he always
foresaw that the inevitable effect of that motion would be
the point to which they had now arrived. lie never could
agree to that proposition himself, slid cir;.t;tnstepee3 since had
led him more and more to consider that pd preposition
In a dan-
gerous one, and he was now better assure the
opinions he had already given expression tot he most sincerely
and conscientiously adhered, and he was most anxious that the
wants of the Roman Catholics should be supplied, and that
through the measures they were now eotundgrnig they should
receive assistance in their education ; but he could notsee that
it would not render it more feasible to the Protestants of this
country, that that assistance should be rendered through the
spoliation of the Protestant Church of Ireland. He would
adhere to the opinion which he had heretofore stated, and would
decidedly oppose the motion of the Hon. Member for Sheffield.
Mr. ROEBUCK said, that when the Right Honourable
Baronet opposite undertook to oppose the motion of the
Honourable Member for Sheffield, he (Mr. Roebuck)
at least expected that he might divulge that some attempt
should be made to answer the arguments of the Hon. Gentle-
man. It did not strike hiia that the Hon. Gentleman had
attempted to answer the proposition offered by him..—( Cheers.)
The only reason which he could deduce for such a failure in
this case was the want of argument to support a cause which
the Hun, Gentleman found to crumble beneath him. The
Right Hon. Gentleman the Member for Edinburgh stated
that the Irish Protestant Church was at that time a worthless
church, because it was instituted for purposes which were at
this time utterly without value. It was a church which in a
large portion of Ireland did not exist. fir, let them under-
stand the meaning of the word chweel. They were con-
stantly confounding the word church with church establish-
ments. They were confounding the payment of a clergy who
were giving consolation to a congregation—they were con-
founding the congregation itself, who constituted that Church,
with those pastors who were appointed for the purpose of giving
consolation. That was not applicable to Ireland ; for in a large
portion of that country there was no Protestant congregation,
and it now came to be considered, as the Right Hon. Gentle-
man had stated, that as this property had failed in its uses,
how were they to give assistance but out of the property
which remained in their hands ? The Government said it
was a matter of high importance that this grant should
be made, and the only question raised by the Hon. Member
fur Sheffield was, where should she proceeds come irons to
supply this grant ? Was it to come from the pockets of
the hard-working people of England, or from that portion of
property which they had in their hands, of which the Protes-
tant use had entirely failed? They were not discussing—the
Right Hon. Gentleman did not wish to introduce any religious
feeling on this occasion; but what did the Right Hon. Gentleman
do? He turned round upon those who supported him, and said that
they were now coming to touch the Protestant feeling of the
people of England, and he himself blows the bellows to excite
it.—(Cheers.) They had supported him throughout, to the
great risk of themselves, and this was a strange return for the
support which they had given him.—( Cheers and laughter.)
The Protestant Establishment was faithfully described by his
Right Hon. Friend, and had it been attempted to be answered
by the Right Hon. Baronet opposite ? Was it not, at this pre-
sent moment, the great ecclesiastical enormity of Europe ?
( Hear.) Was that description answered by the Right Hon
Baronet? What did he do when he found a murmur? He
told them to beware how they raised the Protestant hostility
of England. How was it that his own allegiance roused
that same spirit? They were prepared to meet all that
was wrong, all that was biggoted, all that was unjust in the
Protestant feeling in England, but they were prepared to sup-
port the strong feeling of justice on the part of the English
people, that that portion of justice which is to be done to
Ireland should be done at the least estpense and suffering of
the great body of the community • and that was the grand
distinguishing mark of the two classes on both sides of the
House. It was a shifting, wavering, faltering policy, after
the declarations made on the ether side of the House; and it
was a sound feeling of kindness and consideration,
based upon principles of freedom and liberality, which
induced them to support this motion.—(Hear, and cheers.)
Why did he make this observation, but that it was called for by
the speech which the Right dolt. Gentleman at the head of
her Majesty's Government het made upon the question. He
wanted to know what answer the Right Roo. Gentleman had
made to the speeches of the Hon. Member for Cork. The
answer was admitted by the lion. Member for Dungarvon ;
but although that answer might have been pointedly made it
was not conclusive. What were the circumstances? " Agi-
tate, agitate," said the Hon. Member for Cork, to the pesple
of Ireland. 46 Don't go to England ; it is useless to
do that ; but meet me at the monster meetings. Put
the Government in danger. Frighten the Prime
Minister, Let him lee that if a shadow of a
shade of war arise in any part of the world you will coerce
him. Trust me, and when England or the Prime Minister is
frightened, you may rely upon it Ireland will have iustice done
to her. " Yes, that was the language of the Hon. Member for
Cork, and what was the speech the Hon. Member for Dun-
garvon made in that House? Why, it was a reiteration of the
declaration of the Hon. Member for Cork, and the course he
was now pursuing had a tendency still further to excite and
irritate the Irish people. What was the course? Was it to
show the Irish people that what was just in time of war was
not just in time of peace, or was it to point out the mode of re-
medying the mischief which had been done by any previous mal.
administration ? No : it was to create discontent and make
the position of the Prime Minister dangerous in the event of
any exigency arising, and thus to snake it dangerous for him
to refuse justice to Ireland. Now, he asked the House if these
were not the real causes which had produced the conciliating
declarations of the Right Hon. Baronet opposite. Much in-
justice had been done by that Right Hon. Gentleman to the
great body of the people of ibis country, as well as to a
large majority of that House. They, on that side
of the House, and he believed the country at large
were supporting a measure of conciliation and conces-
sion, and not yielding to one of the violent demands which had
been made by the lion. Member for Cork, in Ireland, and
reiterated in that House by the Hon. Member for Dungarvon.
They thought indeed that they had been dealing with the
great business of conciliation towards Ireland, until the Right
Hop. Gentleman delivered himself of his speech the other
evening.—( lipar, hear.) But how had they been deceived?
How craftily had the Bight. Hon. lial:opa piclplifyogg4
to cover his object with a flimsy veil winch
required but little penetration or examination to see through.
The fact was, the Right lion. Gentleman had nearly get rid
of the difficulties at home, and probably in Ireland, by one of
happy rqses. Til a sudden turn of fortune the Right
Hon. Gelatieman fancied he bad the'Housfi of Csanimohs with
him, and atie grant was inteoded as a sop for the Right Hon.
Gentleman the Member foe Cisit. That was a true statement
of the case. If the Right Hon. Baronet hid pot discovered a
small cloud of war in the west, he would not have been
dis-
turbed. And what was the true interpretation of those words.
Why, the Right Hen. Baronet was afraid of a war with Ame •
rica.—(Cheers from the Opposition.) That was the long and
short pf it.—( Hear, and a laugh.) At the same time, the
Right Hon. Gentleman foresaw something like a rebellionin
Ireland, contemporaneously With war in Anieriea. This,
then, was the sop to be given to Ireland. It was at least a sort
of graceful concession.—(Cheers.) These were not his own
words, but the ideas, if not the words, of Government, and hee
defied any Man in that House to get up end mak
any other interpretation -Of the speeches which had been Made
by the Right Hon. Baronet. Arid what was the answer to
those statements and promisee of the Right Hon. Baronet the
Secretary for the Home Department ? Why, he had lded
to the statement, aid what was still more remarkable, hgee had
on the present occasion made an unjust appeal to the Protes-
tant peeple of England. The Hon. Member for Sheffield had
propped tbat the giyucQtb IRV olmild Gone at Of funds.e
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that were actually unemployed. They were really funds of
s necure character, for when the parties died who at present
posseseed them, Government would be in possession of
means to give a proper education to the Irish people. And
how was that preposition met? Why they did not want it to
be adopted. They would not censent to disturb the Church
Establishment in Ireland, because they said it would not be
permitted by the people of England; and the Government,
with a true Protestant feeling, would not allow the House to
touch it. He was prepared to say the proposition of the Hon.
Member for Sheffield would not in the slightest degree injure
the Protestant Church in Ireland ; and in using the term Pro-
testant Church he used it simply in the sense of a congregation, 11
and that was the simple explanation given to it by the sup-
poieers of the Right Hon. Baronet. Now what was the
argument used against the proposition of his Hon. Friend the
Member for Sheffield ? The Right Honourable Baronet
adverted to a celebrated article of David Home. and appeared
to think that it was favourable to his own aide.
Experience, however, proved that an augmented clergy of a
particular church did not increase the ',umber of the congrega-
tion ; for instance, they had a large number of Protestant
priests in Ireland, but the majority of the people belonged
to a Catholic congregation. It wes evident, therefore, that
increasing the number of the clergy wae not supporting the
Protestant Church. Nine. tenths of the Protestant clergy to
Ireland stood almost alone amidst a Catholic congregation.—
( Cries of " No, no," from the Ministerial side of the
House.) Hon. Gentlemen on the other side said " No," but
was there any man in that House who had had personal expe-
rience in the matter, who would stand up and deny
what he had said was right ?—( Hear, hear.) Was
there any man who could get up and say that in
Ireland seven-eights of the whole eongregetien were not of the
Catholic persuasion? He was convinced no one could deny it,
for in parish after parish every congregation was Catholic. It,
would be much better for the Government to say whether de-
creasing the number of the elesgY would not have e better
effect in improving the Protestant Chord). They had an op-
portunity of doing so now, for his Hon. Friend the Member
for Sheffield proposed that, as a minister died off, his place
The
should not be supplied.present minister only received
his revenue during life, and at his death there was no neces-
sity for appointing another. Now the means which weeld
thus accrue to the Government could be easily applied to the
carrying out what the Government seemed to desire,
the education of the Catholic people, and thie old uoiy ise
This, then, was the argument, that they could no longer main,
tain in Ireland by force that which they had too long main,
tamed by that means in that country. Hp believed the word
used was " Protestant domination," and that that was the
thing whieli it was apprehended eoold no longer be upheld by
force in Ireland. The Government, seeing that such was the
state of affairs, they yielded ; but, as upon every other occasion,
they yielded when it it was too late.—( Hear, hear,) Met, ha
been always their policy and their penalty, they fried to do
good when it was too late to do it with any effect.—(Hear,
hear.) They had not the courage to do right—they were in
dread to do it ; lent it tees a feeling of dread that e 5 ado them do
it in the end,—(Hea,r, hear.) That was not the way to do
justice to Ireland.—( Hear, hear.) He had never been hostile
to the present Qevernmerit ; but he would sqy it
was hopeless
to expect they would do justice if they waited to do it upon
pt inciples of terror—( Hear, hcar)—and when they were terri-
fied a little snore they would go on doing what they ought to
have done long ago. He had heard so mach about this ques-
tion of the Church property, that he would like to ask a ques-
tion in regard to it, namely, " Who made this property
Was it not the Homan Catholics, far Roman Catholic pur-
peses?—(Checrs)—bet property which had been directed by
Protestant power tq Protestant purposes.—(Cheers,) But
now that the Protestant interest bad died out, it was only fair
to apply it to the very useful purpose of teaching the Irish
people.—( Hear, hear.) Tie would With to know why they
should not bts so applied? He had not heard any reason why
they should not, '
as an earnest of their intention to do justice
to Ireland.—( I-4ear, hear.) And now what was the real diffe-
rence between the Right Hon. Baront's proposition sod the
epprcprietiop clause? It was simply what was called the Pro-
testant principle. Hon. Members opposite said that this was a
proposition which, if it originated with Protestant Ireland,
might be consistent, but it should not have originated with
Protestant England, But the attack having been commenced
in England, the assailants hid themselves behind their excesses
in Ireland. —( Hear, hear.) Now, either this was a question
as to a great question, or it was not. It was one which asserted
that England was about to make a proposition for the education
of the people of Ireland, and the means were to be had without
injury to any one ; and, therefore, he called upon them to agree
to the grant, if they wished to pacify Ireland,
fir H. PEEL said he would he very unwilling that the
Haase should seperate until he had protested against the gross
iris-statements and misrepresentations he had heard of what
had fallen from him upon the discussion of this question the
other night. Upon that occasion he did abstain from all party
recrimination. He said he brought forward this measure on
the part of her Majesty's Government, conscious that it would
be well received in Ireland. He slated the feelings of grati-
tude with which it has been hailed In that country.—( Hear.)
Ile did then, and would now deprecate with anxiety the
chance of a failure of this measure.—(Hear, hear.) He
knew well that the suceess of the measure did depend
upon Hen. Gentlemen opposite, and that with them rested
the question whether the measure should succeed or not.
( Hear, hear.) He said then, and he would say now, that he
iiteant tie do ample justice, as far as it was in his power, to
the motives of those Hon. Members who had voted against
the measure, se well as (howl who had voted for it. He stated
further, upon that occasion, that he knew well that many of
those who had given their support to the Government had
done so at the risk of displeasing their constituents. lie also
stated that many others who had voted in favour of the mea-
sure had done so at the risk of losing their seats for ever. He
did pet arrogate to himself or to those who sat with him on that
side of the House, the origin of this measure. On the contrary,
he stated that it would have been much better if it had come
from those who had been well known to be uniform friends of
the Roman Catholics,—(Hear, hear.) He was perfectly
willing to take upon himself all the consequences of the dis-
pleasure that he might have incurred, this he stated on Friday
night, and he added upon that occasion '1 Visit the Minister if
you will, but let not your displeasure fall upon the measure
itself."—( Hear, hear,) It would be base indeed, if they were
to attempt to throw the onus of the support they had
received upon the opposite side of the House, for the indig-
nation it had created should be visited on that side alone.
He was surprised at the mode in which the Hon. and Learned
Gentleman commented upon this subject. The measure re-
ceived his support on the second reading. He was perfectly
aware of the nature of the measure. He ( Sir R. Peel) ex-
plained fully that it .'.as his intention to provide the funds out
of the public revenue, and he had never given him reason to
suppose that ho would consent to the diminution of the funds
of the Established Church. He had never sanctioned the
opinion that they would, during any stage of the measure, con-
sent to the appropriation of the revenues of the Established
Church. —(Hear, hear.) The Hon. and Learned Gentleman
was perfectly aware of the principle of the proposition of her
Majesty's Government. He (Sir R. Peel) gave the Hon.
and Learned Gentleman full credit for the motives by which
he was actuated, for he was aware of the strong
feeling which prevailed in the city which the Hon. and
Learned Gentleman represented on this subject, and the Hon.
and Learned Gentleman, was ready, as others were ready, to
incur the risk 'of supporting the second reading. The lion.
and Learned Gentleman said that he stated that the measure
was brought forward in consequence of the agitation of Mr.
O'Connell. He (Sir R. Peel) stated directly the reverse.
He stated that during the prevalence of that agitation they
combated it by the law, that they succeeded in Ireland at
least in their appeal to the law, that the consequence was a
suspension of the agitation, at least, so far as the immense
meetings tending to disturb the public peace were concerned.
After this determination to vindicate the law, and after those
meetings were suspended, they considered whether some other
measures might not be adopted which would be likely to afford
a more permanent remedy to Ireland than the application of
physical force.—(Hear, hear.) They, therefore, proposed a
measure making better provision for charitable endowments.
That measure with the exception of some opposition from a few
Roman Catholics, received the general assent of the House.
Were they then taunted with having yielded to intimidation--
were they not then told that the course they were taking was a
wise course? It was not said that there was anything undigni-
fied or dangerous in that course. They were supported by some
ecclesiastical dignitaries of the Roman Catholic Church who
were opposed to the repeal agitation. Mr. O'Connell never
asked for the endowment of Maynooth—Conciliation Hall never
asked for it. But a great number of the Roman Catholic
clergy and laity, who, seeing the spirit in which the Govern-
ment were inclined to act, and that the Executive were inclined
to act in a friendly spirit, asked for this measure ; and it was
more in deference to their opinion, than to any threats or inti-
midations that they brought it forward.—( Hear, hear.) Nor
did they bring it forward in consenience of their relations with
the United States ; for it might be recollected that he had
given notice soon after the suspension of agitation, voluntarily
and without necessity—without any person calling upon
bins to do so, that he was ready to run the
risk of exciting Protestant feelings in this country, and dise
tinetly declaring that during the present session he would
bring forward the subject of academical education ; and that
he would, at the same time, bring the subject of Maynooth un-
der the consideration of the House. Did he not add, at the
time time, that they would act, not in an adverse but in a
friendly spirit ? And did not any person who heard him know
that it was his inten ion to improve that institution? He
therefore brought forward the measure. He had abstained
from noticing the attack of the Right Hon. Gentleman oppo-
site; and he seemed to he disappointed that he (Sir Robert
Peep hail passed it over. He would tell the Right Hon.
Gentleman the reasons why he did so. He knew that
the success of the measure depended upon the
votes of Hon. Gentlemen in that House ; and it was not for
him to alienate that support by party attacks. lie thought it
much snore consistent with his duty, to act in that way, being
ready to take the consequences of the success or of the failure
of this measure. Feeling deeply satisfied after proposing this
measure, that the public interests required that it should be
passed, was it not more becoming his position that he
should concentrate every effort to the passing of the
measure rather than provoke party attacks or promote party
recriminatiens?—(Cheers.) Powerful as were the talents of
the Right Hon. Gentleman, great as were his abilities, yet he
could assure him it was not from any fear of a conflict with him
that induced him to forbear.— (Cheers. ) It was that sense of
public duty with regard to the importance of the measure,
and the effects which its failure would produce in
Ireland, that had led him, after maturely considering
what course he should take, to do that which would best promote
Humiliating
gk
that Thehe Rightshould HpornoinGo
teen
thintle
the success of the measure ; but the Right lion. Gentleman
ticleiuhrnis
cmoamnp
ae lslkeeddh,him
stoi
runnot
measure? Ile felt no humiliation--(Cheers)—he felt no
humiliation in discharging a public duty—but he should feel
humiliated if, believing this measure to be of importance to the
welfare of Ireland, he shrunk from proposing it, because they
might charge him with inconsistency.—(Cheers.) But if he
believed it to be a measure calculated to do good in Ireland—
calculated to engender kinder feelings between the two coun-
tries—so far from feeling any humiliation in proposing it, he
owned to the Right Hon. Gentleman that he felt perfectly satis-
fied with the motives and with the act. —(cheers,) The
I,,nmilietien Would he if lie shrunk trout performing a public
duty from any fear of the Right Hon. Gentleman hunting
out seine passages of his, and charging him with incon-
sistency. He supported the grant to Maynooth when
out of office. In 1840 he voted with the Right
Honourable Gentleman, and §,Ooke in favour of it when he
Was silerit.'—(lleei,tear.) Ho objected to the withdrawing
of the vote. Where was then the inconsistency in supporting
it now?—( Hear, hear.) They wished to improve the build-
ing, extend the aecomrstodatioo, eleyete the education, give a
dehnt allowance to the teachers of youth—where, then, he
repeated, was the inconsistency of now supporting a measure
for the continual-1:e of whichhe had uniformly voted? The
Right Hon. Gentleman said that those who voted fur
9,0001. could not refuse to vote for the 26,000/., and
besides that it yzae ellsord iss those Who would
votelor a salafy to professors to vote only for a sum which
would keep them in a starving condition. It was the Right
Hon. Gentleman himself who said so, and yet he accused the
Government of inconsistency in proposing a grant which would
give increased comfort to those residing at Maynooth, merely
Because, instead of heing smallienadr aniftsal; the. giant wotild be
increased and permanerin-ltlee , ea,..ti ea
' 'Ol did not then
reply to those observations h
t. he Right 01.1. Gentleman, but
20050 himself to *IP lAird the Member for
the City of London, who took a for different view, and who in
a generous spirit came forward to support the Government in
accordance with a virtual engagement that the
Opposition side
of the House vivuldaorport say measure brought forward for the

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welfare of Ireland without referencito party ft eling. He had never
seen a man so discontented with the fee sourable reception
which the measure had met with in Irelanil. • The Right Hon.
Gentleman seemed to counder Irish agitat is ol and disturbance.
as the field for his own peculiar exertions-. The Right Hon.
Baronet then quoted the opinion of Lord ;Vice teazle; expressed
last session, which was decidedly in favou r of an increase of
the Maynooth grant, and asked, if they 'lnd not brought for-
ward this, or similar grants, would not thn Right Hon. Gentle-
man have taunted them with inconsistency and impelicy in
not bringing forward some healing measure for Ireland? He
would have said this was the time, and that if they hen done
so the Opposition would have given the Government all the
support in their power.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") But
the Right Honourable Gentleman, though he supported
the Maynooth grant, spoke vehemently against those
who proposed it, and extracted all that party virulence
cenld obtain from his support. lie thought the conduot of
the Right lion. Gentleman unworthy of the position he owe.
pied in that lion-c. lie deoply regretted that he felt obliged
to reply to the taunts of the Right lien. Gentleman—he had
expected unanimity, and was sorry that any division should
have taken place. tie propoeed the melt ure for the welfare of
Ireland, but did net think it right.that the obligations of the
.
Irish Roman Catholics should be eithdeawe Iroti these Who I
had len asivq-ated theie elailes estlielf inOnlee feieads—and
transferred In (boa— (11.i.'-r, hear.) lie wily wanted s•
prep,a belief on the Reese that ti— -"m i"
had ti oie their dubs . • • ...e Government
'eirten t
hriu Lad been actuated by a
1 They fen, that this e-s- note Catholics. of lnland.
l sincere
e
ee. a neceaa y measure. It was an attempt
to eeeciliate the people of Ireland. It was not merely a series
of measeres of concession, bet it was an act of spontaneous
Isimilv motion 00 th
thought that this feelieg.
hoeed it %veldt{ be received
pact of the Government, and as such he.
' . ate: not cause, as it was said 'it
would do, an accessing to the ranks of relgol He
thought
Act of lest session, Viet it seemed ' '
tp, orat the fear of an
Ainerican war 'wee to have
at all affected
measure, as if nut which hadagrea
_eect in the terms of this
Inni hcen evinced by rte . Charitablee
l'n t been already arranged, had. been
msssage of the President.
Why tine reeasurelta 1
been arranged so long ago as last
November, 411(1 he couldt assure the House that the discussions
which had t.ken place
to Oregon in the American Legislature with respect
had net added one shilling' to the grant to Maynooth,
and qie spcculi of the P • ' - influencethan
t the d. • }'resident had had no more
discussions themselves. Ile had anticipated that this
measure would have the effect of increasing the good-will be-
tween the several
clas:cs in Ireland, and he thought that the
expressions of good will with which it had been hailed in the
Home would haae the effect of allaying the discontent which
then prevailed in Ireland. That the measure was not yielded
to agitation was evident from the power which the Government
had shewn to contend with agitation. And what was said with
respect to America ? Was it not evident that the proceedings
of America had not the slightest influence on the decisions
on this question, and to which the Hon. Member who intro-
shined this question had not made the slightest reference.
What, did the lion. Member intend to lay the great stress of
his argument on taking a sum of such paltry amount as
26,000/. from the Consolidated Fund, for effecting such a
great purpose as the conciliation of Ireland ? He (Sir Robert
Peel) believed, that the intentions of the Government would
be plainly understood, and he would not attempt to justify
this grant by any reference to the compact with the Esta-
blished Church in Ireland. He would take a more enlarged
view of Establishments in general ; nor would he on the nar-
row ground which had been proposed, attempt at all to prove
anything in support of the Established Church. He might
cite the opinions of Sir J. Newport, Lord Plunkett, and others,
to show that the appropriation of such a sum would in no way
infringe upon the claims of the Established Church.—( Hear. )
Thu Hon. Member who had introduced this motion had ex-
pressed a fear that the whole of the principles in which the
Government had acted would be misunderstood in Ireland.—
( Hear, hear.) But he (Sir R. Peel) had reason to say that
the present impression in Ireland was highly satis'actory, as
showing the impression that was prevailing throughout that
country of the kindness and good will with which the present
Government were disposed to act towards it.--( Hear, hear.)
He must confess that one of the motives that had
induced this grant was the hope that it would lead to a
greater interchange of good will between the Catholic
and Protestant portion of the popelation. _o( Hear, hear.) He
believed that it tveuld not he looked upon by the Irish peoe'
as a measure of concession to their fears, but as an in,: ~,e
kindly feeling on the part of the Government e- • ...cation of
this country,—( Hear, hear.) He tb".-eg.ht that there
people of
as many petitions presented fry;,, the
Protestantsof had
Ireland bee.n
in
favour of the measure"..; against it—(Cheers)—and he did think
it most honettre'o'le to the feelings of the Irish Protestants that
they had come forward not to oppose the measure, but to sup
pert it. They had called it a measure liberal and just toward;
their Roman Catholic fellow-subjects--(Cheers)—and he did
believe that if the House approved this measure, and the spirit
in which it was proposed, it would have the effect of propitia-
ting the Protestants of Ireland.—( Great cheering.) The-Pro-
testants of Ireland did not certainly expect that they would take
the revenues for the support of Maynooth from the Irish
Church, net that they cared for the money—the
sum of
twenty-six thousand pounds was a minor considera-
tion —they rejeioed in the Government measure as a proof of
kindly feelings towards their fellow countrymen, but it would
certainly be somewhat dishonourable were they to exact the
sum required for the support of this institution from the funds
of the Irish Church, He thought that the kindly feelings
evinced by the Protestants would in this case meet with a very
ungenerous return. He utterly denied the justice of the mea-
sure proposed by the Hon. Member for Sheffield. If he had
been diverted from the course he had intended to pursue in
this debate, if he had said one word which was calculated to
throw any impediment in the way of Hon. Members on the
other side, who had been prepared to support this measure
of the Government, he deeply regretted it. But
he felt that after the language used by the Right
Hon. Gentleman the Member for Edinburgh, it would
be necessary for him to justify thus far the meanre of the
Government. He gave credit to the sincerity of the mo-
tives which induced Hon. Members on that side to vete on
that measure. He acknowledged and he gave them credit for
their enelform advocacy of the Catholic claims ; still he was
most anxious that this measure should receive their sanction.
The motion of which his Hon. Friend the Member for the
University of Cambridge had given notice seemed intended to
solicit the votes of all who could by possibility be opposed to
the Government measure.—(Load cries of " Hear, hear," and
cheers.) And, looking at the motion which his Hon.
Friend had put on record, he found that its ob-
ject was not to insure an annual vote, but
that the sum required for this grant should not be paid out of
the Consolidated Fund.—(Hear, hear.) His Hon. Friend
might have objected to the increase of the vote, but, instead
of that, his Hon. Friend had given notice of a motion which
would compel Hon. Members—he should say which would al-
most compel lion. Members—to vote with him.—( Cheers. )
The motion was to this effect, that the fund for Maynooth
should not be taken out of the Consolidated Fund. It was not
that the vote should be an annual one. [The notice of the
Honourable Member for the University of Cambridge
upon the paper was here handed the Right Honour-
able Baronet.l He found that the motion was thus:—
that the several sums proposed to be payable shall not be
charged upon or payable by the Commissioners of her Majes-
ty's Treasury out of the Consolidated Fund. It was not as he
had already stated that the vote should be an annual one; but
that it should not be paid out of the Consolidated Fund. If he
could succeed by a combination of parties of extremely opposite
views iii defeating this measure. Now, he hoped that those
who would assist the Hon. Member in thus defeating it, would
do so upon principle. He would have thought it perfectly con-
sistent, if his lion. Friend had objected to any increase of the
vote, if he had proposed a motion in opposition to that increase
of the vote, and taken the sense of the }louse upon it.
But was it fair that he should place such a
motion as this upon the paper, and he trusted that those Hon.
Members who agreed with the principle of the Government
measure, but who were opposed to the mode in which Govern-
meet proposed to raise this fund—lie trusted that they would
think it better, considering the state of public feeling in
Ireland, to ensure the passing of the meastwe, rather than its
defeat. Ile did not believe that any permanent good to any
party would arise from a combination of men of such opposite
principles, and he hoped, therefore, that, even if the maj city
of that House did not entirely approve of this
measure, yet, that, in consideration of the circum-
stances under which it was brought forward, they
would prefer the passing of the measure to its failure, and that
they would support her Majesty's Government in this case, and
afterwards if indeed they felt inclined to censure the conduct
of the Ministry, then they might with some appearance of con-
sistency oppose them. The Government were perfectly pre-
pared to abide by the measure. He had thought' it better to
encounter the storm of public opinion, than shrink from the
performance of a public duty. The Right Hon. Baronet sat
down amidst great cheering, the expression of which it was vary
difficult to define, but amidst the storm of cheers and counter
cheers Lord,
.)it seemed that the Liberal party pnsidredominated.
. RUSSELL (who was for a coerable time inter-
rupted by the efforts of Mr. Colquhoun to be heard, amidst
loud cries of " Order") said that he did not wish for
one moment to detain the House for this night
or to lead to an adjournment.—( Hear. ) But hn.ohnadAtready
stated that he would support the motion of thMember
teheH disCussi of
for Sheffield ; and be thought it right, before
s
his duty to say that,
Cheers. ) And he
this night closed, to state his reason .
thought, at the same time, that it was
Learned Member
for the motion of the Honourable and
Id give it his r
for Cambridge was brought forward,
he
woefurther, and de-
cided negative.—(Cheers.) He would go
the- M be for say,
that if the motion of his Hon. Friend em r
Shef-
field was not acceded to, he would give the utmost support
in his power to any motion which would have the effect of
carrying out the same principle.—(Cheers.) He had no
wish to obstruct her Majesty's Ministers in the measure
which they lied proposed; but he believed, if they
had not been supported by those who agreed with him, they
would not hose held the position which they now held.—
(Cheers.) He agreed with his Right lion. Friend, the Se-
cretary of State, that when they had been so long in the
wrong, they might ultimately be right. He did not agree
with those who said that if this grant were acceded, the
Roman Catholics should have no further claim. He
did not agree with those who said that the claims
of the Roman Catholics of Ireland could terminate in any
grant.—( Cheers.) Ile did not believe that grants were their
only object ; eb ersud ded that
• he could not b p grants would be
le egge to ex rot ' • '
their only satisfaction. 1 p .9 his dissatisfac •
The Noble
lion with the statement. (. . Lord was here in-
of '• Order, order," " Bar, bar.")
terrupted by loud cries
When we could again
collect the tenor of the. Noble
Lord's observations, we understood him to say, until they
offered an adequate establishment.for the people of Ireland out
of the funds already existing no satisfaction to those opposed to
the present Establishment could be expected.--( Hear, hear.)
to
He did not attach any great importance the grant of 26,000/.,
t
and he did not wish now o go into any argument
upon the adequacy of that grant—(Hear, hear)—nor
was it from any disagreement sof with the sentiment his Right
sough
ut ' •
Hon. Friend opposite that he
Ho
his duty to contrast
former statements with presentte He thought it to be his
duty to contrast the condureltdo4l3
whd:rethseattit Government from
the year 1836 to the
year
came to the w'ich they were at
present pursuing, sodconclusion that either
blindness or want of
there was the greatestforesight on their
must
part from 1836 to 1843, and in that case he could have no
opinion of their candour, and suppose them to be a
Ministry more wanting in capacity, Hiatt any Ministry that had
• they
ruled this country for 110410 .
withtime , ort if were wise, he
mu.t deny that Coy
had acted any sincerity.--•-(Cheers. )
He would tot fin titer enter into their present and past conducts
but he would state that he would vote in favour of the motion
Sheffield,
of his Hon. Friend the Member foe and after that
he would give his most steady and cordial support to the
Bill.—( Cheers. ) moved the •
Mr. COLQUHOUN then adjournment of the
debate.
Mr. MITCHELL said that they hadalready had six nights'
debate on this subject, and the result of this adjournment would
be that, at the end of the session, most important business would
1.0 left untouched. He wished to take the sense of the House
upon a division.
Colonel WOOD concutred with the Honowalale Gentle-
man who had just sat down.
'W
Mr. ARD said titat, In consequence
of the general 1111pp°-
sition that the ..e
a bate on this motion would occupy some
nights, .
f every etanding order or to-morrow
had been further
postponed.
The debate was ten h adjourned, and after the other orders
of the day were gon g
e throu h, the House adjourned at One
o'clock.

GRAY'S INN, Aram 23.—Henri Manisty, Esq.,
Barrister-at-Law,
wbyasthtehills
odgahrelleedsoeto
jethtye dofegoreaey?:lnn.

iiER MAJESTY'S LEVEE,
The Queen held a Levee yesterday afternoon at St. jarnes's
Palace.. Her Majesty and Prince Albert, attended by the
royal suit:, arrived from Buckingham Palace at two o'clock,
and were received by the Lord Steward, the Lord Chamber..
I lain, the Master of the Horse, and the Groom of the Stole t-0
Prince Albert. The royal suite included the Duchess of 8.,-
cleueh, Mistress of the Hot es ; the Viscountess Jocelyn, 'Lady
in Waiting; Viscount. Sydney, Lord in Waiving; Lqr". George
Lennox, Lord in Waiting to Prince Albert ; Sit Frederick
Stavin, Groom in Waiting ; Captain Francis Seynour, Groom
in Waiting to Prince:Alliert; Colonel Arbutb-40t, Equerry in
Waiting; Colonel Bouyerie, Equerry to Peatce Albert; and
the Pages of flouonr in Waiting.
His Roy4l highness the. Duke of Cunbridge (attended by
Mr. Echnond Mildmay), kil.s Royal Highness the Dzike of
Aleetienburgh Streli!Z, his Serene Highness Prince Ernest et
-ilesse Philippstahl, and his Serene Highness Prince Edward
of S.lxe Weimar, attended the Levee.
to the QUPCII took place ;.....
The Count Barone, P.a.'
raihtary seryiei. '
The Haw,.

...nontese Nobleman in tl.e Sard;iiiatt
~y Chant Potion, the Sardinian Minist.P:..
...e Folgc,za, of her Must Faithful Molest.% Council,
Member of the Portuguese Charnbe•• of
dim! je,, by
Baron de Moncorvo, the Portu;ues.f,ii„ist,,,..
Mr. Henry Stuart, Comte de rt-.:1„,
Leti-ati m, by the Duke de
Aulaire, the nen
The Foreign Di AttacU 'o the Spanish
7sotomayor, the Spanish Minister.
c°!°°"ittic Circle wasattended by Count de S.
Ambassador; Count Louis de Noailles, Se-
cretary
to tbr.: Embassy • the Doke de Broglie, and the Prince
de ; Count bletrichit jn, the Austrian
Ambas-
s",r; Sarum Effendi, Ottoman Am'oassador ; Edib Effendi,
First Secretary; and !1..1. Agep, Secretary Interpreter of the
Embassy; M. Van de Weyer, the Belgian Alink:er; M. C.
Van Capenbergh, Inspecteur du Tresor ; and M. Van Nerck-
hove, Directeur de l'Administration du Tresor Public de Bel-
gique ; Mr. Moreno, Buenos Ayrean Minister ; Baron de
Cetto, Bavarian Minister ; M. Dedel, the Netherland:,
Minister; and M. Stratenus, First Secretary to the Legation;
Count de Pollon, Sardinian Minister ; and Count Revel,
Secretary to the Legation ; Baron de Moncorvo, Portuguese
Minister ' • Baron de Brunnow, Russian Minister; and M. de
Longuinoff, Attache to the Legation; Count Kielmannsegge,
the Hanoverian Minister ; Chevalier Bunsen, Prussian
Minister ; Mr. Everitt, United States Minister; Count
Reventlow, the Danish Minister ; and M. de Bielke, Gen-
tilhomme de la Chambre de S. M. le Roi tie Danemarc et
_ _

son Secretaire de Legation; Mr. Murphy, the Mexican Mi-
nister ; the Duke of Sotourayor, Spanish Minister ; Baron
Gcrsdorff, the Saxon Minister ; and Baron de Rehausen,
Swedish Charge d'Affaires.
The general circle was attended by the Bishop of London,
the Lord President, the Lord Privy Seal, the First Lord of
the Treasury, the Secretaries of State for the Home, Foreign,
and Colonial Departments, the First Lord of the Admiralty,
the Chancellor of the Exchequer, the President of the Board
of Control, the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, the
Chief Commissioner of the Woods and Forests, the Secretary
at War, the Lord Steward, the Lord Chamberlain, the Captain
of the Honourable Corps of Gentlemen-at-Arms, Viscount
Combermere, Gold Stick in Waiting, the Captain of the Yeo-
men Guard, the Vice-Chamberlain, the Treasurer of the
Household, the Comptroller of the Household, the Lord Chief
Justice Tindal, the Lord Chief Baron, the Hon. J. A. D.
Bloomfield, her Majesty's Envoy Extraordinary and
Minister Plenipotentiary to his Majesty the Emperor
of all the Russiaa, the Lord Register of Scotland,
Sir Charles Young, Garter ; Hon. Sir Edward Butler,
Lieutenant of her Majesty's Hon. Corps of Gentlemen-at Arms;
the Master of the Ceremonies ; Sir Harris Nicolas, G.C.M. G.
Chancellor of the Order of St. Michael and St. George; Mr.
Henry Robinson, Standard-bearer of the Hon. Corps of Gen.
tlemen at Arms ; Sir George lioulton, Ensign of the Yeoe..-.,,
Guard ; Colonel \Veare, K.H. ; Colonel Monteath o. j 3.
Colonel H. Bentinck, Colonel Owen, and Col l ael nel e
C. B. , Aide-de-Camp to the Queen; .ieutenant- Colonel
APDouall, 2d Life Guards, Silver St;:,;,, Lieutenant-Colonel
Wylde, Royal Horse Artillery.
Captain Pechell, R.N.. -- querry to Prince Albert;
nd • Colonel' Sir Horace Seymour,
Equerries to her 11.1.:
Hayter, M. jest the Queen
Dowager ; Sir George
Paiute-
L., Principal Painter in Ordinary, and
of History and Portraits to her Majesty ; Mr. James
ounce Curling, Adjutant of the Hon. Corps of Gentlemen at
Arms ; Mr. Ellertborp, Adjutant of the Yeoman Guard ; Sir
Benjamin Smith, C. S. ; Lieutenant-Colonel Sir Frederic
Smith, Gentleman Usher to the Privy Chamber ; Lieutenant-
Colonel Sir Noel Harris, Groom of the Privy Chamber in
Waiting; Hon. Mortimer Sackville West, Gentleman Usher
to her Majesty ; Mr. Alfred Montgomery, Gentleman Usher
to her Majesty ; Colonel Godwin, Gentleman Usher to his
Royal Highness Prince Albert; Mr. Colquhoun, Agent for
the Hanse Towns; Captain Kincaid, Exon in Waiting;
Colonel Colvile, Scots Fusilier Guards, Field Officer in Brigade
Waiting ; Lieutenant-Colonel Bathurst, Scots Fusilier Guards,
Captain of the Queen's Guard ; the Hon. Sir Richard Brown,
Knight and Baronet, Hon. Secretary of the Committee of the
Baronetage for Privileges, and the following :
Dux ES—Norfolk, Montrose, Bedford, Beaufort, Buckingham
and Chandos.

ManQuisEs—Abercorn, Clanricarde, Donegal, Huntley,
Douglas, Camden, Breadalbane, Lorne, Ailesbury, Lans-
downe, Worcester.

EARLS—Bandon, Antrim' Falmouth, Kinnoull, Enniskillen,
St. Germans, Ilchester, Clare, Powis, Morton, Nelson,
Waldegrave, D unraven, Malmesbury, Lucan, Eglinton,
Cowper, Verulam, Orkney, Sefton, Brownlow, Tyrconnel,
Euston, Longford, Morley, Talbot, Howe, Shaftesbury, Eldon,
Bective, Cawdor.

ViscouNTs—Dupplin, Grimston, Bernard, Bury, Mare,
Duncan, Hawarden, Somerton, Clive, Northland, Cranley,
Templetown.

Bisnors Winchester, Hereford, Durham, Chester,
Bangor.
Loins—Polwarth, Leigh, Ashburton, Glenelg, Gardner,
Cranstoun, Dinorben, Byron, Sondes, Blavney, Dunboyne,
Stavordale, Lyttelton, .1. Fitzroy, C. Hamilton, J. Manners,
Crofton, E. T. Howard, Robertson, Hotham, Belhaven,
Dudley Stuart, Cranmore and Brown, Brooke, R. Grosvenor,
Saltoun, Farnham, John Chichester, Gederich, John Russell,
Templemore, Edward Russell, Keane, Braybrcoke, Loraine,
C. Fitzroy, C. Clinton, NV. Lennox.
Rio LIT HONOU IiAhLES--Sir Alexander Johnston, Francis
Baring, A. R. Blake, Sir E. Thornton, F. Lewis, Sir E.
Ryan.
JI'DGES —Erie, Platt.

HONOURAREF.S—Frederick Byron, Henry Boyle Bernard,
Rev. Reginald W. S. West, Wm. Lascelles, 11Ir. Cole, Cap-
tain Denman, Rev. Fred. de Grey, John Kennedy, R. S.
Carew, M.P., H. B. Johnstone, W. A. Holmes, Geoffrey
Browne, Rev. E. Moore, Arthur Dillon, C. L. Butler, P. P.
Bouverie, Wm. Bagot, A. f.iddell, R. Curzon, Rev. H.
Yorke, D. Pelham, Lieut.-General Arbuthnot, Captain Cust,
Captain Keith, Captain Liddell, Captain Fitzmaurice, Colonel
Sir E. Cust, J. Astley, Rear-Admiral Poulett, W. Cotton,
Captain ii)ng.
JUDGE—Des Barres (Newfoundland). - - -
BARONETS—CharIes Des Voeux, Richard Brown, Thomas
Duke Acland, Henry Melia, J. Copley, D. Baird, A. Brooke,
M.P., G. Staunton,lll.P„ T. Wheler, F. Head, F. Doyle, T.
Winnington, C. Knightley, Percy Shelley, William Moles•
worth, C. Slingsby, J. Walsham, Robert C. Dallas, R. Bar-
clay, T. Phillips, R. Bulkeley, G. Baker, J. Harrington.
MRS—John Webb, John Hare, A. D. Gordon, C. Do omville,
R. L. Blosse.

DEANS—Chichester, Salisbury.
ARCHDEACON—IsIe of Man.
REVEREND DocToßs—Dibdin, Horsley Dakins, D. Irvine,
Hawtrey.
REVERENDS—WiIIiam Canning, J. Spooner, G. T. Hudson,
J. E. Tyler, C. Dering, E. Grove, J. Anderson, Lord J.
Thynne, R. L. Freer, Count de la Feld, T. Marsh, W. Russell,
0. Ormorod, T. Fuller, G. Porter, F. Trench.

QUEEN'S COUNSEL—Alexander, Humfrey, Butt, White-
hurst, J. S. Wortley.
SERGEANTS-AT-Law—Merewether, Channel!, Goulburn,
Thompson, Manning, C. Jones.
DOCTORS—.R. Bright, Billing, Locock, Liddell, Anderson.
ALDERMAN—Tottie (of Leeds).
MESSIEURS —Edward Foley, Fletcher Norton, E. Lionel
Welles, James Ewing, J. B. Heath, W. R. Robinson, Wil-
liam Honywood, Bowyer Smyth, Henry Tufnell, M.P.,W.
H. Brabazon Conner, Charles Cavendish, Simon atson
Taylor, Ormsby Gore, H. B. Swabey, A. B. Hope, Law,
W. Sloane Evans, Bridges Taylor, J. B. ;Stanhope, Head,
Cornwall Legh, H. F. Earle, Butler, Challoner, Richard
Bawsher, Richard Burgess, B. de Monteney, Acworth, E.
Porter, T. G. Goune, C. N. Sissmore, G. E. Vernon, T. J.
Forman, M.P., F. Cavendish, H. Blagrove, R. Biddulph,
Mundy, C. R. Gibson, Harcourt, W. H. Gibson, D. Griffith,
Egerton, 0. T. Wyndovve, H. A. J. Munro, Turnor, M.P.
Bourke, Travers, De Horsey, R. W. Bellew, M.P., 0. Higgins,
M. Baskeville, M.P., R. Clayton, M.P., A. G. Robarts,
S. Stanhope, Morant, Kniglitley, Mainwaring, M.P., A.
Goldsmid, W. Spaight, E. Harcourt, H. Howard, Garforth,
G. P. Bushe, A. M. Sutherland, F. Garnett, East, M.P.,
Babbage, Duff, M.P., G. A. Smith, G. W. Irvin, R. Ellice,
M. Foster, H. C. Bingham, Mactavish, E. Thornton, H.
Woodcock, J. Betts, G. L. Coleman, F. C. Stuart,
Halford, S. Perceval, W. H. Gibson, A. Koelliker, B. Cress-
well, Auldjo, G. H. Cox C. M. Lushington, G. Alit.
chell, F. M.P.&well, C. Wood, M.P., J. C. Kay, Briscoe Frend,
W. J. Blake, C. L. Kay, F. T. Haig, Rudall, H. Hushby, G.
Lewis, A. Hambrough, J. H. Astell, Barnardiston, Anketell,
T. Calton, J. Macleod, A. Drummond, J. Fraser, B. Cul-
peper, Wilshere, M.P., Malcom, Shirley, M.P., Hoare, R.
Wrightson, M. Gaskell, M.P., Praed, G. Welch, W. Gray,
A. Drummond, jun., H. Liddell, Rich, Marsh, Bell, M.P.,
Gaussen, F. Gaussen, Vyner, J. Darby, Monsen, Burroughes,
M.P., R. Nugent, Newdegate, Ross, Christopher, C. W.
Wynn, P. P. Bouverie, termer, A. Oswald, Hawes, C.
Wynn, W. P. Carew, AL Mundy, M.P., H. Broadwood,
M.P., S. Scott, H. Story, Adderley, M.P., Burr, S. Wool-
mer, W. Chute, M.P., W. Cooper, Marton, M.P., Harwell,
J. Davis, Carleton, H. Irwin, J. Litle, Spooner, M.P., Tot-
tenham, T. Haggard, S. Flood.
FIFI.D..MARSUAL—The Duke of Wellington.
GENERALS—Viscount Beresford, Sir Charles Imhoff, Sir
Robert Gardiner, Sir Charles Thornton, Hon. Sir W. Lumley,
L'Estrange, Sir James Bathurst, Hon. W. H. Gardiner, Sir
Henry King, Sir Frederick Trench, Sir William Eustace,
Anderson, Hon. Sir H. Pakenham, Sir Thomas Downman,
Sir Henry Penn, Sir A. Dalrymple, Manby, Duffy, Nicol, Sir
Loftus Otway, Sir J. L. Lushington G. C. 8., Sir Frederick
Adam, Bell, CAI., Lambert, Sir William Davy, Lord Straf.
ford, Goodfellow, Sir A. Debutts,.Upton, Mahon.
COLONELS—PoweII, Gurwood, F. V. Harcourt, Robinson,
Clarke, Gascoigne, Hon. H. Montague, Tynte, George
Everest, Ord, Cornwall, A. Roberts, C. 8., Robert Wallace,
D. Pitt, Astell, M.P. Sir.J. Thackwell, Perceval, Hon. G. F.
Upton, Sir C. Hopkinson, C. 8., Lord W. Paulet, Capon,
Tomline, Right Hon. G. Byng, Philip Yorke, Owen, Barnard,
Bagot, Priault, John Holbrew, Hon. G. Rice Trevor, Hon.
C. Phipps, Montgomerie, Rice Jones, Hugh Baillie.
MAJORS—H, P. Burn, Fox Strangways, T. Townsend
Pears, Lucas, Marshall, Cuppage, P. Steinson, Williams,
Trent, Croft, Jelf Sharpe, Sotheby, Lawrenson, Bidwell
Edwards.
Cispraists—G,sulhurn, John Lewis, John Anderson, H. W.
Newman, Neville, Tireman, Randall, William Cole, Saltrew
Willett, George F. Sampson, T. De Batts, U. Gordon, R.
Cannon, H. Jackson, H. B. F, Dickir Oliver, G. A. Tul-
loch, J. Barrow, George Palmer, Bateman, Edward Taylor,
John Trines, H.C.S., Henry Rolland, Jenkins, T. R.
Mein, Sandham, E. J. Pratt, F. Wetherell, Langshaw, Bos-
cawen Ibbetson, Edin Mackenzie, R. G. Knatchbull, Cork-
ran, Pakenham, J. G. Ogilvie, Stuart, Twistleton Graves,
Hon. C. G. Scott, El. W. Newman, Fredericks, Bateson,
Haslewood, Stover.
LILDTENANTS—Edward Otway, 0. Gore, De Butts, G.
Jenings, Adams, Hotham, Halliday, Lennox, Haygarth, W.
Southey, MacKinnon, Dawkins, Stratton, C. Rigby, W. Kirby,
F. Grantham, C. Wallace, W. Kenyon, J. Kendall, G. Young,
R. Hesketh, W. Meason, C. Stuart, Greville, J. Montagu,
G, Sweby, R. Little, De Horsey, A. Hope, Hotham, Hon.
H. Neville, B. 'Walshe, D. Mackinnon, G. Alein, W. Bridgos,
Cust, W. G:anville, R Sibthorp, J. Kemball, C. Paton, R.
Blunt, N. Macleod, R. Lindsell, Rodney, A. Gardner, F. St.
John, Al; Campbell, R. Smith, F. Windowe, A. Cattley, A.
Aitken, Montrcsor, Green, Sub. H. Streatfield.
CORNETS—Duncan J. Baillie, C. J. Plestow.
ENSIGNS—Ed. Heneap Dering, Hon. E. Curzon, W. Far.
mar, J, Crofton, Newmarch, E. Elderton, B. Mein, T.
Pakenham.
ADMIRALS—Sir Robert Otway, Sir G. Mundy, Lord
Colville, Dittoes' Sir J. West, Sir G. liamond, Christian.
CAPTAINS, 11. N.—Hon. Geo. Campbell, Trotter, Sir R.
Oliver, T. Wood, W. Henderson, P. Douglas, R. Burton,
Sotheby, Sir G. Bremer, H. Edwards, Tinling, Greville
M. Dixon, H. Stroud, E. Lloyd, Gostr H •'
• log, H. Seymour
Conoi.. saw as, R.N.—Tindal, R. Mann, Dvlie W. Ken-
dall, Ellicombe, P. Featherstone, E. Sotheby, Cla Von,
Dams, E. Crouch, T. Hope, R. Fleming.

i Lir E N re, R.N.--11
Thompson, Heskert, Relsinsm, J. Tottenham, Fairholme.
The following Noblemen and Gentlemen had the honour of-
, flin2 presented to her Alejesty
Itearquis of Donegal', on corning.to hie title,_ by the Duke of
Hamilton.
The Earl of St. Germans. by Sir James Graham.
The Earl of Waldegrave, on his return irom abroad, by Field-
Marshal the Duke of Wellington.
Earl of Euston, by Lord John Fit;ray.
Earl of Lucan, on his appointment to
the. Lieutena •tiesof efe • . s•o,
.by the Marquis of Breadalbane.
VViscount
iscountDGruipmpslitroan! nsfitLbifie, Guards,
be therds,byth EarleEarlo o
fKf
Viscount Bury, by his Grace the Dille of Buckingham awl
Chandos.
Lord Robertson, on his appointment as one of the Judges of
the Court of Session in Scotland, by the Right Hon. Sir R.
..Peel.
Lord Goderieh, by Lord Ripon.
Isq,el. neane, on coming to the title, by the Earl of Clare.
Justice Erie, on his appointment as a Judge of her Ma-
jesty's Court of Common Pteas, In the Lord Chaneeller.
Mr. names Joshua Platt, on his appointment 6.4 one of the
Barons of her Majesty's Court of Exchequer, by the Lent
Chancellor.
Hon. Mr. Coe, by the Earl of Enni.killen.
Hon. and Rev. Frederick de Grey, by Mr. R. 11. Wrightson.
lion. John Kennedy, by Sir David Baird, Bart.
The Lord Chief Baron, on his appointment, by the Lord Chan-
ccilor.
Lard John Chichester, on his marriage, by the Marquis of
Donegal.
Sir Richard Brown, on succeeding to his ancient Baronetcy, I
by the Hon. Sir William Hillary, Bart., 0.0 J.J.
Sir Thomas Phillips, Bart., by the Duke of Buckingham and
Chandos, to present to her Majesty an illuminated manu-
script.
Sir Robert Barclay. Bart., on his succeeding to the title and
re:urn from India, by General Sir Henry F. Campbell,
K. C .13. , G. C. H.
Lord Saltoun, on his return from China, by the Duke of Wel-
lington.
Hon. Henry Butler Johnstone, by his father, Lord Dunboyne.
Hon. mat Rev. Henry Yorke, by the Earl of Hardwicke.
Mr. Humfrey, on his appointment as one of her Majesty's
Counsel, by the Lord Chancellor.
Mr. Whitehurst, on his appointment to be one of her Ma-
jesty's Counsel, by the Lord Chancellor.
Mr. Butt, on being appointed one of her Majesty's Counsel, by
the Lord Chancellor.
Mr. Alexander, on being appointed one of her Majesty's
Counsel, by the Lord Chancellor.
Mr. Jat •es Stuart Wortley, on his appointment as Solicitor-
General to her Majesty Queen Adelaide, by Earl Howe.
Mr. J. B. Heath, Governor of the Bank of England, by the
Chancellor of the Exchequer.
Mr. W. R. Robinson, Deputy Governor of the Bank of Bog-
land, by the Chancellor of the Exchequer.
Mr. Fletcher Norton, on his marriage, by Captain Francis
Seymour, Fusileer Guards.
Mr. William Honywood, on his marriage, by Sir Henry
Wheatley.
Mr. James -Ewing, by Major-General Sir James Cockburn,
Bart.
Sir Robert Charles Dallas, Bart., en his marriage, by Rear-
Admiral the Hon. George Poulett.
Sir Charles Slingsby, by the Marquis of Anglesey.
Sir William Moleaworth, on his marriage,, by the Earl-of St. •
• --Geraarans.
Sir Francis P,oyle, on his marriage, by Mr. Milnes Gaskett.
Hon. Bee'oert S. Carew, M. P, en his marriage, by Viscount
re
enincan.
Sir Robert Lynch, by Lord Oranmore.
The Archdeacon of the Isle of Man, by the Right Hon. Sir
James Graham.
Mr. William Sloane Evans, 8.A., Trinity College, Cam-
bridge, by Sir John Buller Yarde Buller, Bart., M.P.
Mr. H. B. Swabey, en his appointment to the office of her
Majesty's Registrar (on Ecclesiastical or Maritime appeals),
by the Lord President of the Council.
Mr. Briscoe Frend, by Mr. William John Blake.
Mr. William Henry Brabazon Connor, on his appointment to
the Hon. Corps of Gentlemen-at-Arms, by Lord Forester.
Mr. Henry Tufnell, M.P., on his marriage, by General
Lord Strafford.
Mr. Simon Watson Taylor, by the Marquis of Camden.
Sir Percy Shelley, Bart., on his corning, to his title, by Lord
De L'lsle and Dudley.
Dr. Anderson, on his promotion and appointment to the
Royal Naval Hospital, Hasler, by Sir W. Burnett, K. C. H.
Dr. Liddell, on his promotion or appointment to the Royal
Hospital, Greenwich, by Sir W. Burnett, K.C. H.
Rev. Oliver Omerod, on his preferment, by the Bishop of
Hereford.
Rev. Francis Trench, by the Earl of Hardwick.
Rev. Grey Porter, by the Right Hon. T. L. Corry.
Mr. Mactavish, attached to her Britannic Majesty's Embassy
at Paris, by the Duke of Leeds.
Mr. H. Corles Bingham, by Lord Charles Manners.
Mr. Morgan H. Foster, British Paymaster at Hanover, by the
Right Hon. Lord John Russell.
Mr. George Anthony Smith, on his return from India, by Sir
Augustus de Butts.
Mr. Baker Cresawell, M.P., by Mr. Bell, M.P.
Mr. Sergeant Channel!, on receiving a patent of precedence,
by the Lord Chancellor.
Mr. Sergeant Goulburn, on his appointment as Commissioner
of the Court of Bankruptcy, by the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer.
Mr. Sergeant Thompson, by the Lord Chancellor.
Mr. Sergeant Chadwick Jones, on being appointed Sergeant-
at-Law, by the Lord Chancellor.
Mr. Sergeant Manning, on receiving a patent of precedence, by
the Lord Chancellor.
Mr. F. Cowell, on coming of age, and his appointment to the
Carmarthenshire Militia, by the Duke of Hamilton.
Mr. G. H. Richardson Cox, by Lieut.-Col. Robinson.
Mr. Shirley Woolmer, by the Right Hon. Sir Edward Thorn-
ton, G.C.B.
Mr. Henry Blagrove, by Sir George Staunton.
Mr. Bourke, by Viscount Jocelyn.
Mr. Thomas T. Haggard, by Lord Sondes.
Mr. J. Askins Davis, Surgeon Royal Artillery, en promotion
and return from foreign service, by the Honourable Sir
Edward Butler.
The Rev. George Townshend Hudson, on his anointment as
Domestic Chaplain to the Queen Dowager, by the Lord
Chamberlain to the Queen Dowager.
Mr. Sergeant Merewether, Attorney-General to her Majesty
Qaeen Adelaide, by Earl [love, Chamberlain to her Majesty
Queen Adelaide.
Dr. Billing, by the Earl of Burlington.
Rev. Tilsit's March,by the Earl Cadogan.
Rev. J. Endell Tyler, on his presentation to a Canonry in St.
Paul's, by Sir Robert Peel.
Rev. Edward Grove, on his marriage, by Lord J.
Mr. Bridges Taylor, by Mr. Cornwall Legh. - -
Mr. Richard Burgess, late legal adviser to the Government of
Hong-Kong, on his return from China, by the Right Hon.
Sir Henry Pottinger.
Mr. Butler, by Lieutenant-General L'Estrange.
Mr. Henry Francis Earle, by Sir Robert Charles Dallas, Bart.
Mr. Thomas G. Jonne, by Lord Ernest Bruce.
Mr. Charles N. Sissmore, on his appointment to the Bengal
Medical Establishment, by Lieutenant-Gen. Sir J. Watson.
Mr. G. T. Wyndowe, by Col. Robert Wallace, K. H.
Mr. H. I. Munro, of Novar, by Lord Dunboyne.
Mr. Garforth, by Lord Feversham.
Mr. Auldjo, by the Marquis of Breadalbane.
Mr. John Cunliffe Kay, by his Father ,Mr. C. C. L. Kay.
Mr. H. Jeffreys Bushby, by Major Trent.
Mr. George Lewis, on his marriage, by Mr. F. Lewis.
Mr. J. Harvey Astell, on his return from China, by his father,
Colonel Astell, M.P.
Mr. W. R. Auketell, by Lord Rossmore.
Mr. Barnardiston, by Earl Howe.
Mr. John Macleod, by Lord Farnham.
Mr. Malcolm, of Poltalloch, on his marriage, by Mr. Shirley.
Mr. Andrew Drummond, Jun., by Mr. Andrew Drummond.
Mr. Jonathan Darby, by the Marquis of Ormonde.
Mr. Monsell, by Viscount Adare.
Mr. Richard Nugent, by the Earl of Bective.
Mr. C. W. Williams Wynn, on his appointment to the Mont-
gomeryshire Yeomanry Cavalry, by the Earl of Powis.
Mr. Alexander Oswald, Ott his marriage, by the Marquis of
Douglas.
Mr. P. Pleydell Bouverie, by his father, the Hon. P. Pleydell
Bouverie.
Mr. Sibbald Scott, Deputy Lieutenant of Sussex, on his mar-
riage, by t'ne Earl of March.
Lieut. Pairholme, R.N., on appointment to the Polar expedi-
tieen, by Sir John Franklin.
Commander Tindal, 11. N., by the Lord Chief Justice Tindal.
Lieut. H. N. Burroughes, R.N., by his father, M. Bur-
roughes,
Lieut. Edward Otway, on his appointment to the Scots Fusi-
lier Guards, by his father, Admiral Sir Robert Otway,
Bart., K.C.B.
Cornet Duncan J. Baillie, Royal Horse Guards, by Colonel
Hugh Baillie.
Ensign Edward Heneage Dering, 65th Light Infantry, by the
Rev. Cholmeley Dering.
Captain T. Graves' by Lord Leigh.
Lieutenant George Swaby, by General Lord Aylmer, K.C.B.
Lieutenant J. Kendall, on his return from India, by the Earl of
Hardwicke.
Lieutenant Dawkins, on appointment to Coldstream Guards,
by General Sir Wm. Clinton.
Captain Walter Haslewood, on return from foreign service, by
the Earl of Auckland.
Lieutenant Adam, by Lieut.-General Right Hon. F. Adam,
G.C.B.
Captain John Lewis, by Sir George Staunton.
Lieutenant Freame Wyndowe, by Colonel Robert. Wallace.
Lieutenant George Mein, on return from India, by Lieut.-
General Sir Howard Douglas.
Lieutenant Cust, by the Hon. Captain Cast.
Second Lieutenant Charles Paton, by Major-General Caul-
field, C.B.
Lieutenant R. J. Blunt, on his return from India, by Lieut.-
General Sir Charles Imhoff.
Captain R. E. Knatchbull, by
Marquis
Lord Sondes.
Lieutenant R. Hesketh, by
Captain H. Rolland, on his return
Andrew P. Green, R.N. dLoia,dboynedearprtya.
Captain
Sir
from of Londonderry.
Captain E. J. Pratt, by Lieut.-Colonel Cureton.
Major P. Steinson, by the Duke of Richmon
d.
Quentin.
Captain S. Willett, by Lieut.-Colonel St.
o,b y
Lieut.-
Captain R. Cannon, on his return from Sp
General Sir De Lacy Evans, K. C. B.
Captain J. G. Ogilvie, on appointment as Gentleman-at-Arms,
by the Right lion. Lord Forester.
Captain Coricran, on his marriage, by Colonel Arbuthnot.
Ensign Bowes Mein, 59th Foot, on appointment, by
Lieut. C. P. Rigby, Bombay Army, on his return from India,
nant-Gen. Sir C. Buikeley Egerton, G. C.M.G., K.C. H.
Lieute-
nant-Gen.
Lieut. A. H. Hope, ad Madras Light Cavalry, by the Duke
by Sir Robert Campbell.
of Buccleuch.
Lieut. R. H. Lindsell, 25th Regiment, on his return from
India, by General Sir Henry Campbell, K.C.8., G. C. H.
Lieut. Alan Hyde Gardner, Indian Navy, on his marriage, by
his uncle, Major-General the Hon. W. H. Gardner.
Lieut. F. A. St. John, 60th Royal Rifles, by the Earl of
Antrim.
Lieut. R. W. Sibthorp, (10th Royal Rises, on his departure
for India, by Viscount Hawarden.
Charles John Berners Plestow, Cornet, ith Dragoon Guards,
by. Lieut.-Col. Robinson.
Ensign W. It. Farmer' 50th Regiment, by his uncle, Mr.
Mynors Baskerville, M.P.
Ensign the Hon. Ernest Curzon, 52d Light Infantry, by the
Earl Howe.
Sub-Lieut. H. D. Streatfeild, on his appointment to the let
Lieut.
,AGitioant;
Campbell, Viscount C
dgerbnyeryermere.
11bladras Army, 'll' the Earl I
yo
Bandon.
Lieut. Robert Edward Smith, Royal Bucks or King's Own
Regiment of Militia, by Lord Carrington.
Lieut. Walter Kirby, 29th Regiment, on hie return from fo-
reign service, by General Lord Strafford, G.C.B.
Lieut. Charles Wallace 25th Regiment, on his promotion and
return from China, by his father, Col. Robert Wallace, K. H.
Major Jelf Sharp, on his appointment as Deputy-Lieutenant
for Middlesex, by the Marquis of Salisbury.
Colonel Sir Joseph Thackwell, K.C.B. and K. H., ad, or
King's own Light Dragoons, on his nomination to he Knight.
Commander of the Bath, and return from India, by Lieut.-
General Lord Charles Manners.
Captain Oliver, Royal Horse Guards, on promotion, by the
Marquis of Anglesey.'
Major Lucas and Mr. A. G. Roberta, by the Duke cif Buck-
ingham.

111-. Head and Mr. Frederick (e'er-nett, lee Sir fi.
Ensigns Newraarcti and J. Crciften, by Sir F. Smith.
Mr. Gaussen and Mr. Frederick Gauesen, by the Earl of
Enniskillen.
Lieutenant fbehani, by Lord flotham.
Lieutenants G. A. Young and W. T. Granville, by Sir IL
Baylev.
Lieut.-Colonel Clarke and Lieutenant B. Walshe, by Sir T.
At buthnot.
Lieutenants W. L. Meason and G. B. Jelinings, by Sir W.
Eustace-
Captain F. A. Wetherell and Lieut; A. Alarm, by the Rey.
J. Anderson.
Mrssrs. W. H. Gibeuti and C. R. Gibson, by Col. Douglas.
Captain De. Butts and Li/ uteriant De Botts. by their father,
Sir A. Dc Butts.
Major T. T. Pears, on being appointed C.B. ; Captain J. L.
Barrow and Lieut. R. R. Litle, on their return fron. China.
by Lord Saltoun.
Capt. H. B. Dickinson, Lieut. W. Bridges, and Ensign T.
l'akenharn, on their appointments: by Sir H. Pakerdiare.
Lieutenants Rodney, Holliday, and Lennox. on their promo.
Con, by Lord G. Lennox.
Col. H. P. Burn. and Meier A. Reberts, on their rote/e.
from India, and Captain G. F. Simpson, by Leril Eden-
borough.
Col. Pr/eters, on appeilitment as A.D.C. for the Coerni,e*
Militia ; Capt. C. Mackenzie, on return from India, and
Professor A. leoriliLer, by Sir J. Graham.
Captains Jenkins and H. Jaekson, and Lent. F. Grantham,
on return from China. by Col. rare.
elessre. Woedeeek and Coleman, Aldermen of Norwich. by
Lord Deuro.
'Messrs. T. Geltori aiel Spooner, M.P., and Rev. .1. Spooner.
by Lord Ly Velem.
Mr. E. Thornton, or. appointment to the Meeieen Mission;
Mr. E. Porter and rave B. Cord ea on lee anointment,
by Lord Aberdeen.
Col. Ord en promotion,Captains Sandliaas on appoint-
ntent, Tireman, F. Mein on promotion, Net ille, Lieutenants
,reLimr ,t e,e and Murray.fAeorth,
en
their
Thompson on returu from foreign service, Robinson on pro-
motion, and Mr..f J. by
Messrs. J. Fraser, A. t
return from India; Colonel J. Holborn, T ieut—Celonel
Capon, Major Sotheby, Captain G. A. Tulloch, acid G.
Anderson, on their return from India; Captain Sir Robert
Oliver, R.N., oa receiving the honour of Knighthood, and
return from India ; Lieutenants A. J. Cattle, N. C. Maeleod,
J. S. Kembull, J. M. Montagne, and Ensign E. Eldei ten.
on their return from India, by Lord Ripon.
Messrs. W. Gray and Egerton, Lieut.-General Sir F. Adam.
on return from abroad; Major-Generals Nicol, Sir H. King,
Sir H. Pakenhaen, and Bell, on their appointments ; Lieut.-
Colonel Lord W. Poulet, on return from Canada ; Captain
I angsbaw, and Lieut. De Horsey, on his appointment, by
the Duke of Wellington.
Admiral Sir J. Westanking, appointed Commander-in-Chief at
Plymouth; Commanders Claxton, E. Crouch, Dyke, and
Robert Mann, W. Kendall, E. S. Sotheby, and C. J. Feather.
stone, on their promotion; Captains M. Dixon, on his ap-
pointment ; EL Seymour, on promotion ; Sotheby, Lieut.&
J. Tottenham on promotion, and return from Africa, and
Hasken, by Lord Haddington.
The following noblemen and gentletrien bad the honour of
presenting addresses and petitions to her Majesty :
The Earl of Powis—From the clergy and laity of Manches.
ter, in the county of Lancashire, " entreating her Majesty to
consider that the immediate consequences of this measure has
already been to deprive Manchester of a bishop during the last
ten years, and its future effects must be to inflict the same in-
jury on North Wales for ever."
From the dean and chapter, the archdeacons, the rural deans,
and the clergy of the diocese of St. Asaph, with 175 signatures,
in the district of North Wales.
From the archdeacon and clergy of the archdeaconry of
Shropshire, in the diocese of Lichfield, in the county of
Shropshire.
From the clergy of the archdeaconry of Exeter, in the
county of Devon.
From the rural dean and clergy of the deanery of Dyffryn
Chip, in the diocese of Bangor and county of Denbigh.
From the rural dean and clergy of the rural deanery of
Pontesbury, in-the diocese of Hereford and county of Salop.
From the rural dean and clergy of the deanery of Ludlow,
in the diocese of Hereford and county of Salop.
From the clergy and deanery of Cirencester, in the diocese of
Gloucester and Bristol and county of Gloucester.
From the clergy of the rural deanery of Woodleigh, is the
archdeaconry of Totnes and diocese of Exeter.
From the rural dean and clergy of the rural deanery of
Arllechwedd, in the county of Bangor.
From the clergy of the deanery of Durslev.
From the rural dean and clergy of the western portion of the
deanery of Pontesburg, in the diocese of Hereford.
From natives of Wales, resident in London.
From the grand jury of the county of Montgomery.
From the inhabitants of the parish of West Felton, in the
county of Salop.
From the inhabitants of the parish of Ellesmere, in the
county of Salop.
From the inhabitants of the parish of Great Ness, in the
county of Salop.
From the inhabitants of the township of Dudleston in the
parish of Ellesmere and county of Salop.
From the inhabitants of the parish of Ruyton in the Eleven
Towns, in the county of Salop.
From the inhabitants of the parish of Badger, in the county
of SaloP.
From the rector, churchwardens, and inhabitants of the
parish of Llanghanfal, in the diocese of Bangor, and county of
Denbigh.
From the rector, churchwarden, and inhabitants of the parish
of Hampton Bishop, in the county of Hereford.
From the minister and inhabitants of the parish of St. Chad,
Shrewsbury.
From the inhabitants of the parish of Shiffnal, in the county
of Salop.
Front the rector, the churclissardens, and the parishioners of
the parish of Derwee, in the diocese of Bangor, and county of
Denbigh.
From the churchwardens and inhabitants of the prise/ of
Llanibedr, in the county of Denbigh.
From the rector, the curate, the climehwardens, and pa-
rishioners of the parish of Llanelidan, in the diocese of Bailer,
and county of Denbigh.
From the inhabitants of the parish of Ilerdlan, county of
Denbigh, and diocese of St. Asaph.
From the inhabitants of the city of Chester.
Frons, the mayor, aldermen, councillors, sad inhalsitante of
the borough of Ruthin.
From the vicar, curates, churchwarden', and inhabitants of
the parish of Llanfair, Dyferyn, Clwyd, in the diocese of
Bangor.
From the rector, churchwardens, and inhabitants of the
parish of Efeneehtyd, in the county of Denbigh.
From the rector, the curate, the churchwardens, and inhabie
tante of the palest of Clocaenog, in the county of Denbigh.'
From the vicar, the curate, churchwardens, and other in-
habitants of the united parishes of Llanywys and Gyffylling in
the county of Denbigh.
From the rector, churchwardens, and inhabitants of the
parish of Llangwyfan, D. C., in the county of Denbigh.
From the curate, the churchwardens, and inhabitants of the
111;
rish of Llandyrnog, in the diocese of Bangor. Praying he:
ajesty's sanction that so much of the Act of the 6th and 7th
. an
William IV, which relates to the union of the sees of St.
Asaph and Bangor may be repealed, and that Parliament may
be enabled to take such measures as may be deemed expedient
to preserve unimpaired the constitution of the Church in North
Wales.
Bishop of Bangor, from the dean and chapter of Bangor,
the clergy of the county of Anglesey, the clergy of the deanery
of Llyn, the inhabitants of Lanthalader, praying her Majesty to
be graciously pleased, in the exercise of her royal prerogative,
to signify her consent to the progress of such measures as may
be submitted to Parliament for repealing so much of the Act
6 and 7 Wm. IV., c. 77, as provides for the union of the sees
of St. Asaph and Bangor.
Bishop of Hereford, with an address against the union of the
sees of Bangor and St. Asaph.
Mr. Charles Wynne, Sheriff for the county of Denbigh,
accompanied by Ma. Mainwaring, M.P., with a county
address, praying that her Majesty will be graciously pleased to
allow a Bill to be brought into Parliament for the repeal of an
Act that united the sees of St. Asaph and Bangor.
Mr. Mainwaring, M.P., presented two addresses with similar
prayers from the grand jurors assembled at the Spring Assize',
1845, and at the quarter sessions in March. 1845.
Mr. Wynne was presented by the Hon. William Begot.
Mr. Marsh, Deputy Mayor of Great Yarmouth, with an
address of congratulation to her Majesty on the birth of e
Prince Alfred. Mr. Marsh was presented by Mr.
Will-
shire, M.P.
birth of another
Cole-
man, Mdermen, of congratulation or
i‘lr.
bjyelellr.BHeteinsrilySNlNt'eorodiffeceefktehreidCMitrty.
teteeeNrognse accom-
paniedLieohvickCole-Mr. Betts was presented by the 11 argue
Prince Albert, attended by
After the Levee, her MajestyandPalace.
Prince, from the Mayor, Aldermen,
i and Burgesses
oufrgDesoseusroo!Norwich.
the royal suite, returned to Buckingham
House,oK en tsta had
itameieine7 r part
yesterday at her residence
dof their Royal Highnesses the Duke
The company consisted Her Royal Highness the
and Duchess of
dGrand Duchess of Mecklenburg-1r-
Grand Duke an .
Clarence Dachas
Cambridge, their Royal Highnesses the Here-
ditaryof Hesse PI ei
of Saxe Weimar,
stahl, his Serene Highness Prince Edward
K' 1 mu:-
Mons. Dedel, the Netherlands Minister , Countmicehmess
of
Strelitz, his Serene Highness Prince Ernest
segge the Hanoverian Minister ; the Mike and
the Earl mad
Buccleuch, the Earl and Countess D
al Countesst! e Equerry is
d'Arnini, Lord and Lady Beatty e.
.
Baron
Duke of Cambridge, Lady Anna Maria D..wsen,
Waiting to the
Countess of Jersey, the Earl and qawarri
of Dalhousie,
the Countess Wratislaw, and Colonel Sir George Cooper.
Her Royal had afterwards an
nal Highness the Duchess of Kent
evening patty. Her Majesty .n 4 Prince Albert (attendee by
the were present.
The following Concert was per
formed at Clarence Hoes%
presence of the Illustrious Circle des
durißnaoytahleSeuvieten)i
n,
presence
lb a erg.
Fantasia, Pianoforte, Madame
Wane—Signor Lablache.
Aria, Near
'amor suo ti beata," (Roberto Devereux)
in the
Adelai , 'da Signor Mario—Beethoven.
Aria, " Si lo sento," (Fausto), Miss Birch—Spolir.
, Ecco quel fierti istante," Mesdames Grisi et
Aria,
Grist—Denizetti.
Quartuor,
Birch, Signori Mario et Le.blathe—Cotta.
Duo, lo verrci," Madame Grid et Sienor
Mercadante. Lablacheee-
Lieder Olind Worte Tarantella, Pianoforte, Madame Duleken
—lllendelesohn, Chioppen.
Preghiera, " Are Maria," Signor Mario—Schubert.
Aria, (Marton Leseant) Miss Birch—Balfe.
Duo, "Un tenero cuore," (Roberts) Devereux), Madame
Grist et Signor Mario—Dobizetti.
Preghiera, " Dall too stelato soghis, (Mote), Mesdames Grist
et Birch, Signori Mario et Lablache.—Rossini.

DEATH OF SIR GEORGE HosTE, C.8.--This dis-
tinguished officer, who tilled the important office of Colonel-
Commandant of the Corps of Royal Engineers at Woolwich,
expired at his residence, Mill-hill, Woolwich-common, on
Monday evening, at ten minutes before six o'clock, of the
combined attacks of asthma and gout, under which he has
suffered for about four months so severely as to render it
necessary for him to remain in bed in an erect position to
prevent suffocation. His age was, we believe, 76 years.
Sir G. Hoste entered the corps of Roy,al Engineers in the
year 1802, having been gazetted Second Lieutenant on
the 20th December, and on the fallowing day, December
21st, was promoted to First Lieutenant. Ile was made
Captain on the 18th November, 1807; Arevet Major,
17th March, 1814 ; Lientenaut-Colonel, 29th July,
1825; Brevet Colone, 2lith June, 1838 ; Regimental
Colonel, 23d November, 1841. The services (,f the
deceased officer were of a very important character. Ile
served at the battle of Maida-hill, and at the siege of Scylla
Castle, in 1806; at the attacks on Alexandria and Rosati'
in Egypt, in liio7; at the taking of the islands, of Ischia and
Prociaa, and at the siege of Ischia Castle in 1809. He was,.
in the action on board the ship Spartan, in the Bay_ of
Naples, May 3, 1810. He joined the army in Ifolla an
November, 1813, and was present at the attack on tn4g
and led the Guards at the storming of Bergen-op-Loom. i;
sea-ed also in the campaign of 1815,
with the that
andwa,r.s,attached to tho
Prince of Orange, as senior officer -,_e was
feii ueealso
at
the
attsex
corps at the battle of Waterloo. II
and surrender of Peronne, anti at the rapitinto lation
giveofmrearrge;
and was one of the commissioners appointed
fortress of Thunville and other strougho.lds from the Frentti
to the Prus:sisus. There.is but one opinion as to hi., chew-
Iter as an °dicer sad in private life, which was distingUished.
by charity and humanity. Sir George lioste has left belli94
him his widow. Lady Waite, two daughter, and three Km.