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.81anthents at salaries the average of 'which amounted only to
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.and showing that many of these curates perform
than the esiastical duties in their parishes for smaller incomes
clergy of the Forest o! Dean chapels already possess.
f,• hat, therefoie, in the present commercial, manu-
,ell'luvine and finarcial difficulties of the country, and at a time
fo.“uer° R, seliament has passed an Act to add by taxation three or
roltdons sterling to the burthens of the people, to meet the
-eat/-Y sanctioned expenditure of the country, it is highly dent to to increase that expenditure by granting a sum equi-
a"tent to 10,500!. of Three per Cents. from the public revenue
th tha is of th counte
Fry, foorest r the enan, dowment of the clergymen of the
aete
of De
e' That it appears by the Bill, that in the year 1838 the
teoTtnissioners of her Majesty's Woods and Forests, with con-
fie.;ol,_the Lords of the Treasury, invested the sum 0ft343/. 15s
revenues of the Crown lands, to purchase the sum of
i. Three per Cent. Consolidated Bank Annuities, upon
Sot '`' towards the repairs of the fabrics of the said three chapels
es 3s,v,,ert and the further proposed grant of money, equivalent
etril• fis. hicl. of Three per Cent. Stock, the dividends of
labich are to be applied for the maintaining and repairing the
rates rie of these chapels, would be a precedent for paying Church
e .
to out of the general revenue of the country, and ought not
eaereed to."
SirCn J. EASTHOPE seconded the motioa.
p,tTthe question being put,
he Earl Of "LINCOLN said that the resolutions pro
by the Hon. Gentleman almost equalled the length
13 speech. The House would not expect him to go over
.I.)e topics which had already been discussed at length.
lio first si li'tions• which the Him. Gentle-
x oL t e. rem) _
I ended as facts, were noi, such , neither •
was the
°bie'sure proposed a new one. He contended that the et
14 of the Bill had been well supported by private
lthificenceill .
,
• `VILLIAMS opposfal the Bill as
been impolitic and
red ; he regretted that such a Bill should have
Present
-ur°l-t
gut forward at a period of such distress as the
The
11-ouse then divided, and the numbers were—
_ For the original motion 177
Poi- the resolutions
11 Majority
—133
Report was then further considered in Committee,
e "louse resumed.
Los SOUTH AUSTRALIA.
Ibto'„. ',STANLEY moved that the House resolve itself
Of - `•olllluittee upon South Australia, for the purpose
e,onsidering certain resolutions.
tr.,l ,eouse having resolved itself into a Committee,
4',IIEFM) in the Chair.
Pre STANLEY said that, in rising to propose the
tt( sent resolutions, he was doing what, perhaps, more
alerlY belonged 'to his Right Hon. Friend the Chan-
4eaa "r the Exchequer, as they had snore relation to the
The department of the colony, than the political.
which'°We Lord then referred io the circumstances under
tliel the colony .was established. The management of
"vereAe,."Y was vested in in the hands of unpaid Commissioners,
the 07.""rn there was no central, who undertook to carry
tout
esio elects of the colony, on what was called the self-supper ing
\tithe-11e. They were to defray the expenses of the colony,
tlete;'eferrine to theonothr country. but i was necesary
teri,„,?ale fnnds' should bee provided in the out,et, ands the
eiNlenssioners were, for 'this purpose, empowered
..)to boororiolvs
end 1:41 credit. They were empowered to borrow .0d0:
tidere required to place 20,000/. as a guarantee an in t'llaes,
cos ,i 2 trustees The consequence was, that the money
lserr,:e'd at an extravagaut rate of interest, he believed at 10
catpc4t. interest. Independently of this, the machinery for
Neng out the objects of the Commission was one likely to
theaeo dissatisfaction. Political differences also entered into
vf 4.14tt
rer, end theses divisions tended to counteract the objects
all Pa •
ttitine Itest (The Noble Lord then proceeded to read. the re-
kaki iendritions of the Committee of last year, OR which, he
form ere hail strictly founded his Bill. These were, that the
teleoerLArit for governing the colony be repealed;
.. that the
'lore! u,e Placed on the same footing as other British posses-
etptil tnat the Government should take into consideration the
eY of introducing the popular element into the
11fne,14` Coursed, by admitting a proportion of non-
%itneats members, and other recommendations of a
,tabar kind. The Noble Lord then traced the financial
4111ents of the colony, and the proceedings of Colonel
(ake„ - ;
41 with regard to them, which he stated were always
,votela,)l.° a deep and imperious sense of their necessity. ). He
ast en-tit go into the point, so much argued before the Committee
tiini"e'trt whether he was justified in drawing on the treasury
kaleo'anner he. had done. Captain Grey hod suttee led
the g reduction in the exrnses of the civil establishment
°Lc ishZintly from 94,000/. to 34,600/. One of the conditions
Lucie 11 emigrants went out to the colony was, that. they
~Teis'el„"e furnished employment sufficient to maintain
helves The effect was to throw the resources
,i'".ll)4in'orernment open to a large proportion of the
Ition • 4. SO as to render matters in a . con-
et simile to that which prevailed in England in the
PII6:P/e' Of the old Poor-law. The result was, that out of a
P°alit etßn of 15,000 persons 2,000 were maintained at the
kt
ese. Captain Grey, however, had received the
seply I t lotinsitive instructions that no workman who refused to re
emPloyment even at wages below those given ordi-
colonists should receive relief. The course her Ala-
'letttl'r; evernmen't meant to pursue was, that those who went
gag e colony, harino• gone on the faith of Government., it I
via% now
justice to support them now. The number of colonists
,t4ltit'kjw 15000, and they possessed a vast amount of fixed
Zied he
he trusted that when they were now relieved they
irti ee,mtle what they had taut been heretofore, a self-sup- '
Zeafece(4°,l. What he meant to propose was an advance to
bi•g9 of 155,000/., at the same time he could nut hold out
erk..litluille expectation of its repayment. He also
e„ erorrise an -estimate this year of 15,000/. to carry on
%_ exp s of the Government. It should also be re-
li,44lett'lq,;" that' the•enes first instance, the Commissioners raised a
•tt.
ttt':;,`;• Th .I)4lrde were to bear interest at 3i which, ent. T.he
I,','P's,"!% detest Ofn the colony was &Lew:v., on during
▪ h 'elt• year, this country would be called on to pay 5,900/.
noDed would be the last demand that they sould re.
tkaiee,te iT'Ae o'n Parliament to put the colsny in s chha condi-
it would be able to carry on its own affairs, on its own
kite. itnre. The Noble Lord concluded by moving the re-
-111%,,
1'44 ,IJIVETT approved of the system of administration pro-
atitv'°,Y the Noble Lord and considered that the House was
Alailebtqd to him for, the statement he had laid before it.
-hrtlitSt' teIeIAMS said the statement of the Noble Lord was
dsse ttter4inary one. When one saw propasitions Hue
NPeireeeforwa-ril in the present state of the country, he
e hose ollt Itil,s'YV.hing being done for the relief of commerce.
had, a (nnti"at the course proposed was one which would
e4„,:onen. nuance of the useless, reckless extravagance which
Ras th-11,t'ed under, Colonel Gawler, who spent a sum of
e,s's tne n of a Government House, He knew it
u'eless ter le
the Bill, but he could not allow such
I._ 'no o oppose .
to?rti r :‘,),;-.0 on without raising his voice against it.
dn „i';`'LEY stated that from what had lately come •
I)%,"'„uvetint'„--ellee, he could state that no such sum as 24,090/.
he Rnsli'ended by the late Governor in the manner stated
ieNes -11. Member ; and he should further state that Colonel
S. it was roost anxious that his conduct should be inquired
14 -41 Y an h,
IL P. ts were entertained as to its propriety.
4CKINNON combatted the opinion ofthe Hon.
• tealialtt ;Vert-the that he should give up the colony o.f" South
iletvioter agozether. He had been one of the unpaid Corn-
0f this colony. and he must say he was surprised to
Gentleman connected with trade advise her Ma-
'l;;•tt&iri;ctlerritnent to give up a colony which had been pro-
e'r,i;_°,r the last. six years, and which, in a short time,
t,v` the het the United states in extent and importance. W's
". Gentleman aware that productions might fail in
lies ft "un try, and then where were we t o look but to our co-
„alt. our sup',,Ees.)
6,"ILLIAMS briefly explained. Here was a colony
„vit%,e been in existence six years ; there were 15,000 in-
it;ithe el'a and 20.000/. a year was required for the maintenance
°l'3•• This was the result of employing unpaid Corn-
-4'4y t;b4:l4 he did hope that the Noble Lord would never
bhl% 14. aid Commissions agmn.
oa, 6:,CKINNON said that it was not the Commissioners
pe-
„a 0 incurred the expenses ; the expenses were incurred
Cie •v" c in the colony.
'elite • 111TH perfectly agreed with the Hon. Member for
Sett Y that
trot . ‘Ne should give up this colony altogether. He
sit down without expressing the highest satisfaction
tZt %tanner in which the Noble Lord had spoken of th.. vigour
-..,8.0 displayed by his friend Capt. Grey since he had had
)b.4lr, Vcrnent of affairs in South Australia.
Okiei 4113 tho ht there was now a prospect of the colony
g its ug
tho th healthful state. Already the income nearly
w•le, expenditure; to throw away such a colony
I.le
~ditipie!lld be an act of insanity, a 3. well as inhumanity. e
114,4ry er,4°fl that it would be well if in these colonies the ma-
-14. Ile
be constructed so as to be of a less expensive na
e cordially approved of the resolutions of the Noble
to
11- qu„.
ts‘l(t was then put, and the resolutions were agreed
r‘ a,,division, and reported.—The House then resumed.
thi;c the AINES AND COLLIERIES BILL.
ets
rnotion of Lord ASHLEY for the third reading of
41
n
WORTH presented petitions against the Bill.
eolli (1 CM
",lad ever man in the House and in the country
sad t y o see an end put to the employment of females
41
" soon as a termination cou'd be put to that em
kw?. 11 the present distressed state of the working
';t he believed that it would send into the workhouse
females, if that part of the Noble Lord's Bill
a,v'ke, \v.-vented the employment of boys under thirteen years
'04;4'1,1 enere carried into effect. The Hon. Member read
'e;" tlientivinnications from Manchester and Bolton, in
teed • ; writers said, that if the provisions of the Bill were
„,o tlie,;`,) effect, it 'would he impossible. to. work the
11,-;(4te that dißtriet. He had received similar informatmn
thth%Sr4re'i•Part, of England and Wales, and from Scotland,
teß,:;i3cturers were indifferent about the Bill, because
tea‘4it eer'"4 it as a labourer's question, which could not in
NI off,
the interests of the capitalist employer. There
question to be taken into account—whether the
'eltr wa3 really so injurious to the health of children as
thoehe '14,, Itltriay-t„Id• He admitted that there were objections to
child" by "tj,L4nt of children of a very tender age, as he had
0,1 ender .e notice which he had given of a motion that no
Its o •
onto veers of etre shouldemployed. It was the
lli 1441 P'flitm of the ajorkine miners themselves that the
'itt; the°l,. tho Commissioners" was overcharged ; and
ittfil•nes ~vs:)ll,ittien of the women and children employed
infinitely superior to that of children employed in
tat4tl from °LI work. The Hon. Gentleman then quoted
tilsit.enea--clc Reports, to establish
coal'he fact that all the per-
-neitthb 14 the werking of mines were superior to
,superiors' employed in agriculture, and beyond corn-
ir in health and appearance to the. people ern-
tee the fetories. Moreover,- the workers in factories
N"rtheeduut-working agricultural labourers in his neigh-
Ig to ~Itiltott) were receiving parish relief last
tlt..doins ratio-373 spinners, 390 weavers, and
Ltit .t tti°r labourers, but only nine colliers. The
teeti,twa°B dill might be sent up to the other House,
theearttne rnPnssible that the Bill in its present state could
leCer laW of the land It was well that there was
tneot elneq u
oioisfe
v_toe Lower '
'tit
of
correct the hasty, and he must say false
House in this matter. The Hen.
concluded by askine leave to withdraw the amend-
!Wrote, -c" he had given i'notiee.—Amendment by leave
kPrtrlllltNp
ttikti•uer eh -1" r said that he entirely differed from the Hon.
Led.er wlnci had just sat down, who stated that this was a
(lid I did not concern the poor. This was a Bill
ktgio"rigi atg.'",cat honour to the Noble Lord who
'4turenif e" its and would do honour to the
ill 4,1 >eve_ they passed it into a law. It was a Bill that
•r'"a to „L' erueity being practised upon those who were
citie.
,°•eet themselves.
I\l`l the rv:s.then read a third time.
irVI Listausthat the 13ill do pass,
a" bare
13 concurred with the Hon. Member fir
1)1z
.1,)40ur • enett) that the passing of this Bill would
tired to the Le •
I",n, tho `is ature, but he wished, in defence of
,N•y iisrath.l, - tither for Bolton (Mr. Ainsworth), and those
~);;t had n who hail supported him, to observe that any
Part, beet' caused in the progress of the Bill on
te(ll!est ,Z.scliscussedr"l a desire
441.'1 , arose
to have the measure
They could not legislate on this
tP•si-'t iron °",e.r~uen' bat the interest of the persons concerned, ie.
l et dige eertY dealt e ith, required that there nhou!d. be
771' Vvas ot the uestion•
He trusted tht wen the
ender onsideration . in another place,a
all the ob-

jectionable parts would be struck :out, and the good portions
retained.

Mr. W. A TTWOOD had always supported the measures
introduced by the Noble Lord for ;he pr.itection of the labour-
ing classes, but he thought the present Bill elms hurried rather
hastily through the House: He doubted whether the arrange-
ment, which limited the time of the labour of the boys to three
days per week would b' attended with beneficial effect to the
employers, or would admit of the boys themselves earning suffi-
cient for tlieir maintenance. He thought that many improve-
ments might be made in the Bill of the Noble Lotei, and yet
the object which he had in view completely carried out.
Mr. STANSFIELD deprecated the course pursued by the
Commissioners in arriving at the farts set forth in their Reports.
He thought that a general law should not be passed, because
abuses prevailed in some places. What would be the case
if they proceeded :in the same way with regard to the
Poor-laws? He considered the House was proceeding too hastily
in legislating on the subject. The boys were to be employed
three days in the week by the present Bill ; but what were
they to do the other days when they were not to be employed?
He thought they were proceeding to do good under a false im-
pression, and, while they were anxious to get rid of one evil,
were about to fall into another. The lion. Gentleman then
referred to the Report of one of the Commissioners, which con-
tained statements of a careless, if not of a very questionable
nature. He stated that one of the masters threw a hundred
weight at one of the boys, which made bis eyes black and blue.
Now he (Mr. Stansfield) was surprised it did not not crush
him alt'gether. But the fact was, that a sort of stick, called a
" cut" was used in the mines; and it was this which was thrown
and not a "hundred weight," as was stated by the Comrels-
sioners.—( Laughter.) He did not mean to justify the act,
but it showed the manner in which the Report was drawn up.
Now, he did not think it was fair to legislate generally upon
such statements. The colliers ought to know, at least, the
charges which were to ba brought against them. He, at
least, was disinterested in the view he took upon the matter,
because he did not possess a single coal-mine, and he could not
but deprecate the haste in which the Bill was passed.
Mr. BROTHERTON rose for the purpose of alluding to
what had fallen from the Hon. Member for Whitehaven. It
was known that boys of five, and six, and seven years of age,
were employed in the mines, and did not see the light more
than once in the week, Now, was it right that such a state of
things should continue? He did not think it ought, and he
would, therefore, support the proposition of the Noble Lord.
He felt no hesitation in supporting the third reading of the
Bill, considering that the Noble Lord was entitled to the thanks
of the country for bringing it forward.—( Hear, hear.)
Mr. HAWKES thought that the coalowners in Stafford-
shire had great cause of complains in not being made ac-
quainted with the provisions of the Bill. He should, therefore,
oppose its third reading.
After a few observations from Mr. FIELDEN,
Lord ASHLEY replied.
Lord PALMERS4 ON hoped that the Bill, would pass
without any alteration, which he was sure it would do if it
had the support of her Majesty's Government elsewhere. That
support had been promised in that House, and he was sure her
Majesty's Government would support it in the House of Lords.
The Bill was then read a third time and passed, amid loud
cheers.

The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the
House adjourned at Ten o'Clock.

ELECTION COMMITTEE.
SOUTHAMPTON.

The Committee met at the usual hour, the Hon. J. S.
W,rrley in the Chair.

Mr. Marty n, who was partly examined yesterday, was re-
called—Mr. Mabson and Mr. Ball were on the Finance Com-
mittee ; does not know that Mr. J. Hunt was one, or Mr.
Mackay ; paid no money at the election except by checks.
upon Maddison's Bank; drew a check on the 4th or sth
of July for 300/. ; remained for two or three days after
the election in Southampton ; drew a check for 3001. on
the 9th ; was not applied to after the election ; did not
pay any money after; the election of 1837 was conducted
inthe,sarne way as the election of 1841.

'to the Comirrru—Cannot say why the check for the
first 3001. was in Lord Bruce's name; probably it was a
mistake of the banker's clerk; hal enough of his own to
attend to without attending to Lord Bruce's account.
John Marsh was then called. and examined.—Resides
at Newport; a person whom he did not know came to
him on Saturday, and brought him to Southampton, and
from thence to London; he dropped him near Regent's-
park; he did not say what his object was; witness under-
stood that he came to him in case he (witness) had not
money 0 his ewn to bring him ; he slept at the Castle,
Mr. Luce's house ; he lived with Mr. Carter; of South-
ampton he left Mr. Carter about four weeks ago ; re-
collects the last election for Southampton ; he slept at
43, High-street; knows a person named Redwards; Red-
wards lived in the same house ; a gentleman called and
asked for Redwards ; does not recollect if Redwards
came down ; would not know the person who called ;
does not know if it was Mr. Mackay ; had nononveraa-
don with any person relative to the election since he
came to London ; was speaking to a large person with a
mackintosh coat yesterday ; it was not with reference to
the election ; does ma what it was about.
Henry Bray, a clerk io Mr. dderley's bank, was thf'n
called awl eK van ned—Messrs. Hutchins and Mangles had
an account with the bank ; the account was kept in the
name of Mr. and Admiral Gil-Nil, the Vice-Chair-
Man, and Chairman of the Whig Committee ; (the wit-
ness handed in a copy of the account.) They had in-
structions to honour the orders of Chaplin, Tucker, and
Lankaster ; Messrs. Hutchins and Mangles did not keep
any other account with the bank. The total amount was
2,2501.

There being no other witnesses in attendance, the
Committee sugze.ted that Mr. Mackay might be exa-
mined. Mr. Mackay was trot in attendance when
called for, and a messenger was sent to seek him.

In the meantime Mr, BAKER said that, perhaps, the
Committee would express an opinion upon the absence
of Mr. Luce, which would induce the other p9rty to
assist him in discovering where he was.

Mr. HEARN assured the Committee thit he did not
know where Mr. Luce was, and he would be most
anxious to have hun produced, as his absence might be
more likely to impress the Committee unfavourably than
any evidence which he could give. . _

The CHAIRMAN said that certainly an unfavourable
impression was created in the minds of the Committee
by the absence of Mr. Luce, but as it was stated that he
was in France they had no jurisdiction.
On the motion of Sir J. HAMMER the room was
cleared, Mr. Baker and Mr. Hearn were called in, and
after some time the parties were admitted, when
Mr.Abrahams was called and examined by Mr. HEARN
—Resides in Southampton, where he carries on the busi-
ness of a jeweller. Was one of the returning-officers at
the last election ; is Sheriff at present. Knows Mr. J.
Wren. Mr. Wren never told bim a person of the name
of Whitmarsh would not vote for less than 201. Mr.
Wren told him of a conversation between him and
Whitmarsh ; he said that Whitmarsh was in the Whig
Committee-room, and that he would not vote unless he
got money. Witness expressed his surprise, and said
that he had nothing to do with the election. He never
authorised Mr. Wren to pay a single farthing to Whit-
marsh, Callan, Twyford, or any other person. He never
signed a book, authorising Wren to pay any money,
or to promise him any. He declared solemnly that he
never signed the "A. Abrahams" in the memoran-
dum-book.
The signature is a base fabrication ; it
is not even like his. Knows Mr. Thomas Twyford ; he
is a tenant of witness's. Witness never paid him a
farthing. Was not a member of Lord Bruce's and Mr.
Martyn's Committee. Never went to the Dolphin from •
the time he got the writ, except once, when he went to
see Mr. Moodie ; was there two or three times previous.
Was never in a committee room up stairs in the
Dolphin. Had a conversation with Wren after the ekes
tion ; it was opposite his (witness's) door ; it might be
a month or two after the election. On that occasion
Mr. Wren told him that some agent of Messrs. Hutchins
and Mangles had been with hint in the drawing room of
Mr. Woulfe, and that he was offered 3001. ;or giving !
what information he knew respecting the Consersatie;?
party at Sonthatapton. Does not know whether he said ;
it was Mr. Baker. Witness made no observations upon
it. Captain Owen was present at that conversation.
Was summoned to attend the Election Committee ; was
not examined. He is assignee of Messrs. Sheppard and
Drew, the late landlords of the " Star." He brought
an action against Messrs. Mangles and Hutchins for
4531. as assignee. Mr. Sharpe, about four days previous
to the action, came to him and offered him 1501. Wit-
ness said that if he were offered 300/. he would be then I
happy to meet Mr. Sharpe ; he then went away, and I
came again to witness, and offered 2001., which he (wit- I
ness) refused. Mr. Sharpe then shook his fist at him,
and said " You will proceed at your peril." The action
was tried at Guildhall, and the full amount was reco-
vered. That was about the • beginning of May. NeVer
heard of any imputation against him with respect
to Twyford till after the action.: Mr. Mad-
dison 'is his banker ; he draws in the course
of the year upon Mr. Maddison, to the amount of be-
tween 10,0001. and 20,000/. The check of the 19th of
April is in his handwriting, except the name ‘• John
Wren." All the checks certain his genuine signature ;
the bill of exchange handed to him is the one he dis-
counted for Wren. He charges discount according to the
name on the bill. He signs almost all the checks for the
Corporation ; it is therefore easy for persons to have
documents with his name. He discounted two or three
bills for Wren. The two checks handed to him are in
his handwriting. He never saw the memorandum till
this moment. 11e never heard of it 6;1 after the action-
against Hutchins and Mangles.
Cross-examined by Mr. BAKER—Never heard any-
thing to Mr. Wren's prejudice prior to this time. The
conversation he had with him in presence of Captain
O.ven surprised him very much. Gave money to Mr.
Wren besides the checks he discounted. Mr. Wren wrote
to him and stated that he was objector, and was out of
pocket. Witness interfered for him, and he paid
him 101. ; that was before the election, s:nne weeks.
He paid the money out of his own pocket. He
, had a memorandum of it. It was nut to secure
Mr. Wren's services ; he desired Mr. Wren to go to the
Committee. Mr. James Sharpe is a respectable .man,
living in Southampton. Attributes the threats he held out
to matters connected with this election ; it may be in
reference to the result of the action. Wren spoke to
him about discounting bills for Callan ; it was two or
three weeks before the election. Declined having any-
thing to do with the billsc Knew Callan well ; would
not discount a bill for him to a large amount. Does not
recollect what day of the month he received the writ ;
believes it was on the 26th of June. Did not take an
active part in the election. Has no recollection of can-
vassing a vote before or after the election. Did not can-
vass Twyford in any way ; he is a tenant of his (wit-
ness's). Was at the Dolphin three or four times. Went
once to see Captain Ward, and another time to Mr.
Moodie. He went to know how they were getting or.
Attended and presided at a meeting of the Ward of St.
Michael's. He should hope the object of the mat' rg was
to keep their party together. Lord Bruce and Mr.
Ivlartyn were there. Does not know who paid for the
dinner ; he did not pay a farthing. believing it was paid
out of the funds of the Association. K.:ows a person
named Philips. Never asked him tOr his vote. He was
in his house during that election. While he was there,
a person named Buchan came in and wished to see
Philips. He said that as soon as he wa3 done with
he should t::)c-1 come cm; to .iqt• Buchan.

Philips brought in him by his boy. for the pur-
pose of settling his milk account. :There is a door be-
tween the shop and the parlour. It is always open. It

was open when Philip; was with him. His shop is
opp')site the Whig Cornmittee-room. A Whig lives
next door to him. He is a very respectable 'man not•
withstanding.—(Laughter.) linows a person named
Andrews. Andrews told him that he, had been up to
London respectimg the-election,- but having been asked
to state what was not the tact, he was sent -back again.
To Lord BADRINGTON—IIad never taken any very
active part in eketions. He did what he could to serve
his cause. It was usual to employ colourmen and chair-
men in Southampton ; there might be about fifty voters
so employed.
To Mr. SlTlEL—Ree.llects sending a letter to Mr.
Fleming or Mr. Mackinnon, which was read in the
House of Commons:, when Mr. Duncombe referred to
the book there. Did cot deny the charge then, because
he believes the letter was written before.

It being announced that the,Speaker was at prayers,
.he Committee adjourned till to-morrow.

MI LITA RI( INTELLIGENCE.
BOMBAY, BENGAL, AND i\iADRAS PRESI-
DENCIES.

APPOINTMENTS, PROMOTIONS, &C., &C., ANNOUNCED SINCE
DISPATCH OF LAST OVERLAND MAIL, ON THE 2D MAT,
MADE UP TO TILE LATEST DATES RECEIVED.
BOMBAY.

STArF.—Capt. P. K. Skinner, Deputy Judge Advocate
General, posted to the Poona division of the army ; Captain
W. E. Rawlinson, Deputy Judge Advocate -General, posted
to the northern division of the army ; Capt. Wiiichelo, Senior
Assistant Commissary-General, directed to take charge of the
Deputy Crvlimissary.'flerieral's office at the Presidency; and
Captain Threshie to replace Captain Whichelo in Poona;
Lieut. L. N. Raikes, 16th appointed Commissariat Agent
at Bhooj. The appointment of the Muster Master at this
Presidency cancelled.
3n REGIMENT CAVALRY.—Cornet Buckle posted.

A KTI LLE ItY. —Lieutenant T. G. Mactlonnell, deceased, on
passage from Aden, on the 9th inst. ; Second Lieut. G. R.
Douglas posted to the 2d troop Horse Brigade.
INFA ETRY. —lst European Regiment—Lieut. J. Ramsay
promoted to the rank of Captain by brevet; Ensign Daly
appointed Acting Adjutant to the Guzerat Provincial Batta-
lion; Lieutenant Furneaux allowed leave to the Neilgherries
on medical certificate. 3d Regiment Native Infantry—Lieut.
A. M. Hazelwood, promoted to the rank of Captain by bre-
vet; Ensign J. R. Swinton posted. 6th Regiment—Lieut.
W. B. G. Blenkins to be Captain, and Ensign J. Field to be
Lieutenant, in succession to Thatcher invalided ; Ensign I'.
D. Ki.r posted ; Lieutenant I3t. Captain F. itlayor promoted
to be Captain, and Ensign C. Hodgkinson to be Lieutenant;
Ensign J. D. timson posted; Ensign J. Fieldto be Adjutant,
vice Mayor, resigned the appointment. 7th Regiment—Lieu-
tenant W. Trialiam promoted to the rank of Captain
by brevet. Bth Regiment—Lieutenant J. R. Stewart pro-
moted to the rank of Captain by brevet. 9th Regiment—
Captain J Ramsay allowed leave to the Neilgherries on me-
dical certificate. 17th Regiment—Captain W. Knipe de-
ceased at Kurrachee, 9th May. 19th Regiment—Brevet
Captain Renny appointed to act as interpreter to the Marine
Battalion. 20th Regiment—J. R. Kiely to be Captain, and
Ensign E. Campbell to he Lieutenant, in succession to Bald-
win invalided ; Ensign G. M. D. Barnes, posted ; Ensign W.
V. Shewell attached to do duty with the 2d European Light
Infantry. 21st Regiment 'Lieutenant E. Green promoted to
the rank of Captain by Brevet. 22d Regiment—Lieutenant
Tomas deceased at Maligaum on the Ist of May ; Ensign J.
G. Miller, to be Lieutenant, vine Thomas, deceased ; Ensign
G. E. Stewart, posted. 23d Regiment—J. C. Forbes direc ed
to resume his appointment of Assistaat to Superintendent of
Revenue Survey in the Deccan ; Lieutenant J. Sinclair pro-
moted to the rank of Captain by brevet. 24th Regiment—
Lieutenant. Stone, deceased at Bahaderpoor on the 12th of
May, and Ensign Commeline on the same day at Asseet•geur.
25th Regiment—Captain H. C. Teasdale to be Major ; Lieut.
I'. W. Follett to be Captain, and Ensign A. J. Thomson to
be Lieutenant in succession to 111`Mahon retired ; Ensign El.
Grice posted.
MEDIC AL DEP.% RTMENT.—Assistant-Surgeon Campbell,
M.D., attached to the 2d battalion of Artillery. Assistant-
Surgeon R. J. Henan, attached to the left wing, 2d Regiment
of European Light Infantry. Assistant •Surgeon Parsons, 2d
troop of Horse Artillery, deceaed, at Poona, the 11th of May.
Assistant-Surgeon L. Cameron appointed to the medical
charge of the 2d troop of Horse Artillery.
BENGAL.

STAFF.—Lieutenant H. Penny, of her Majesty's 13 Foot,
Aide-de-camp to the Major-General commanding the Dina-
pore division, permitted to resign his staff situation.—Capt.
H. D. Maitland, 72d Native Infantry, appointed Major of
Brigade at Meerut.—Captain W. Shortretd, Ist Eutopean
Light Infantry, to be Major of Brigade at Kurnaul.—First
Lieutenant Ornmaney, Engineers, to officiate as executive
engineer of the Agra division.—Captain H. Spottiswoode,
of the 21st Native Infantry, appointed Military Secre ary to
the President of the Council in India.—Brevet Captain G W.
Williams. of the 29th Native Infantry, appointed to officiate as
commandant of the Calcutta N Aive Militia.—Lient. Mayn,,
37th Native Infantry, appointed to officiate as Deputy- Assist-
ant Quartermaster-general of the '2d cla,s.—Lieutenant T. R.
Harrington promoted to the rank of Captain by brevet. 6th
Regiment—Lieutenant J. A. D. Ferguson allowed to leave
Signapore and the Straits, on medical certitiivate. Bth Regi-
ment—Cornet F. W. Drummond promoted to Lieutenant., vice
Pattison, deceased ; Cornet H. E. Young posted • Lieut.
T. T. Tucker appointed to act as second in command of Bth
Irregular Cavalry. 9th Regiment—Cornet W. A. A. Thom-
son posted. Cornet H. G. C. Plowden, attached to the
Nizam's Army, placed temporarily at the disposal of his Ex-
cellence the Commander-in-Chief.
ARTILLERY—Second Lieutenant M. J. Vibart returned to
duty from furlough to Europe ; Second Lieutenant C. K.
Sibley permitted to resign the service; Major Woodrooffe
permitted to retire from the service ; Captain ( Brevet Major)
G. R. Crawford o be Major ; Lieut. and Brevet Captain .1.
D. Shakespeare to be Captain; and Second Lieutenat R. H.
Pollock to be First Lieutenant, in succession to Woodrooffe,
retired.

ENGINEERS—First Lieutenant E. L. Ommaney returned to
duty from furlough to Europe.
INFANT RV—Major W. J. Gardner to be Lieutenant-Co-
lonel, vice Oliver, killed in action. Ist European Light In-
fantry—Brevet Major 1). Birrell appointed to the command of
the convalescent depot at Landour. Ist Regiment of Native
Infantry—Ensign C. H. Hickey to be Lieutenant, vice Walker,
deceased ; Ensign J. Dawson (Ist) p eted. 3d Regiment
—Captain C. Rolfe, deceased in camp at Malthour, on
the 19th of April, from a wound received in action with
the Boondelans. 4th Regiment—Brevet Captain D. Wilkie
appointed to officiate as second assistant to the Resident at
Indore. Bth Regiment—Ensign R. Cox, posted. 9th
Regiment—Lieutenant E. 'l'. Dalton to officiate as junior
Assistant to the Commissioner at Assam. 13th Regiment—
Captain G. H. Edwards to be Executive Officer at Culmijole.
14th Regiment—The appointment of Lieutenant C. Showers
to be Adjutant of the sth Irregular Cavalry cancelled ; Capt.
Brevet Major R. Thorpe to be Major ; Lieutenant Brevet
Captain P. Innis to be Captain ' • Ensign W. Hampton to be
Lieutenant, in succession to Gardner. promoted; Ensign
F. A. V. 'fhurburn, posted 15th Regiment ; Ensign W. H.D.
Ross, Posted. 19th Regiment—Lieutenants H. V. Stephens
and D. C. Shute, placed at the disc oral of the Commander-
in-Chief. 20th Regiment—Lieutenant-Col. N. Wallace, re-
ceived from 69th Native Infantry. 21st Regiment—Lieut.
L. Lowry, returned to duty from furlough to Europe; Ensign
G. N. Cava posted ; Brevet Captain G. Carr, returned to
duty from furlough to Europe. 27th Regiment—Lieutenant
C. Scott appointed Principal Assistant to the Commissioner of
Assam. 28th Regiment—Lieutenant-Colonel H. Burney, re-
ceived from 68th Regiment Native Infantry. 39th Regiment
Ensign J. H. Firth appointed to act as Interpreter and Quar-
termaster to the 9th Regiment Light Cavalry. 41st Regi-
ment—Ensign F. J. Elsegood, lately doing duty with the '2d
Assam Sebundy Corps, placed at the Commander-in-
Chief's disposal. 42d Regiment— Ensign W. Harcourt per-
mitted to return to Europe, on medical certificate. 45th
Regiment Lieutenant T. C. H. D'Oyly, deceased at Be.
Hares, 24th April. 47th Regiment—Ensign J. Dawson (2)
posted ; Captain D. Pott, permitted to return to Europe, on
:nedical certificate. 52d Regiment—Ensign W. R. Y. Haig,
permitted to return to Europe, on medical certificate. 55th
Regiment—Brevet Captain J. Butler, appointed Junior As-
sistant to the Commissioner of Assam. 58th llegiment—En-
sign L. G. Da Costa, posted. 60th Regiment—Captain C. H.
('obbe, transferred to the invalid establishment : Lieutenant
( Brevet Captain) J. T. GAL% to be Captain and Ensign ; J.
Montgomery to be Lieutenant, in succession to Cobbe, Inva-
lided; Ensign G. Birch, posted, and directed to do duty with
the 4th depot battalion. 65th Regiment—Ensign T. W.
Hilton, posted. 68th Regiment—Lieut.-Colonel H. Burney,
returned to duty from furlough to Europe, and transferred to
28th Native Infantry ; Lieut.-Colonel G. NV. A. Lloyd,received
from 28th Regiment Native Infantry. 69th Regiment—En-
sign H. E. Smith, posted ; Lieut.-Colonel R. Home, received
from 20th Regiment Native Infantry. 74th Regiment—Capt.
N. Camberlege, allowed leave to the Cape of Good Hope or
New South Wales, on medical certificate.

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INVALIDS.—C aptain F. Moore, allowed leave to the hills
north of Deyrah for one year, on medical certificate.
;MEDICAL DEPAR.TMENT.—Surgeon H. Chapman, posted
to the 28th Regiment Native Intantry, at Barratkpore ; Su-
perintending-Surgeon G. King, permitted to proceed to
Europe, on medical certificate; A,sistant.Surgeon C. M.
Henderson, M.D., posted to the 68th Regiment Native In-
fantry; Surgeon G. G. Brown, M.D., directed to afford me-
dical aid to the Bth Cavalry.
CADETS AND ASSISTANT-SURGEONS ADMITTED TO THE
SERVICE. —Mr. F. Whiting, Engineers: Mr. H. G. Courtney,
Artillery ; Mr. P. Alexander, ditto; Mr. H. J. B. Macleod,
ditto; Mr. S. Stallard, ditto; Mr. W. C. Gott, Infantry.
MADRAS.

Si-Am—Captain G. W. Osborne, Deputy Judge Advocate
General, to conduct the duties of the 2rl district. Lieutenant
R. Hunter, Acting Deputy Judge Advocate General, is trans-
ferred to the 7th district, during the absence of Captain Bur-
non, Foreign service. Lieutenant J. S. Freshfield, Ist Light
Cavalry, appointed to act as Deputy Judge Advocate General,
and posted to the 4th district. Captain J. Shiell, Pay-master
in the centredivision, granted leave to Bangalore and Neilgher.
ries, on sick certificate. Captain (Brevet Major) P. Hamond
transferred from the office of Commissary of Ordnance, Hy-
derabad, subsidiary force to that of Commissary of Ordnance,
Fort St. George. Captain S. S. Trevor (Artillery) ap-
pointed Commissary of Ordnance Hyderabad subsidiary force.
Captain G. Briggs, Artillery, appointed Deputy Commis-
sary of Ordnance, Tenasserim coast. Lieutenant C. A.
Brown, 7th Native Infantry, appointed an acting Sub-Assistant
Commissary• General.
ENGINEERS.—Captain (Brevet-Major) A. Laire, to be
Major; First Lieutenant (Brevet Captain) E. Lawford to be I
Captain; and Second Lieutenant J. Ouchterlony to be First
Lieutenant, vice Cotton, retired. First Lieutenant H. A.
Lake returned to duty from furlough to Europe. Lieutenant
W. H. Horsley, appointed Civil Engineer of the Bth division.
Lieut. P. M. Francis to act as Civil Engineer of the 7th divi-
sion during Major James's absence on sick certificate.
CAVA LRY.—Licut.-Colonel T. K. Limond permitted to re-
tire from the service. Senior Major S. Bullock, 3d Light
Cavalry, to be Lieut.-Colonel. 3d Regiment—Captain (Brevet
Major) W. Hyslop to be Major; Lieutenant L. Macqueen to
be Captain; and Cornet J. F. Johnston to be Lieutenant, in
succession to Bullock, promoted. 4th Regiment—Cornet J.
S Douglas, posted. 6th Regiment—Lieut. St. V. Pitcher,
deceased, at Kamptee '27th April.
A RTILLERY.— First Lieut. H. C. Wade, appointed Adjutant
and Quarter-Master to the Ist Battalion. 2d Lieutenant C.
A Purvis, removed from the Ist Battalion to the Horse Bri-
gade. '2d Lieutenants Holmes, Mann, Thornton, and Irving
appointed to do duty with the 2d Battalion.
INFANTRY.—Maior F. H. Ely, 42d Native Infantry, to be
Lieutenant Colonel in succession to Gibson, promoted to Ma-
jor-General by her Majesty's brevet. Lieut.-Colonel (Brevet-
Colonel) John Henry toss nel, vice Hackett, deceased.
Major E. A. McCurdy to be Lieutenant-Colonel in succession
to Henry, promoted.l st European Regiment—Lieut.-Colonel
W. J. Bradford, permitted to retire from the service. 4th
Regiment Native Infantry—Capt. Kirby, deceased at Madras
on the 23d of April ; Lieutenant ( Brevet Captain) P. A. C.-
Powys to be Captain; and Ensign P. R. J. Uood to be Lieu-
tenant, vice Kirby, deceased. 9th Regiment, Lieutenant
(Brevet Captain) C. Garrow, permitted to return to Europe
on furlough. loth Regiment—Captain Foskett, deceased at
S,eundersbad 24th of April ; Lieutenant ( Brevet Captain)
F. Henderson to be Capt&n ; and Ensign A. Ross to be Lieute-
nart,vice Foskett, deceased. I 1 th Regiment—Lieutenant
, (Br (Brevet Captain) J. 0. C. Farran to he and En ign
;
R. Benson to be Lieutenant, vice Wynres, c •
ltegilacrA Native Ligiit Intautry—Lieutolani. .. J. Newbold
to be Captain; and Ensign C. Mortlock to be Lieutenant,
i vice Cooke, invalided; Lieutenant C. Mortlock, permitted