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Mr BY.RNAL said that 1 .ile he could not withhold the ex-
prietait of his satisfactlin itiipecting the proposed reductions, he
must asi. oat he thought the.West-India interest bad been over-
looked by the right lion. -gentleman opposite. He asked why
&Mid the duty on rum be 81. dd. In Ireland and Scotland, while
that -Upon whiskey was only 3s. The duty on sugar, too, was
.. enormous, and ought to be reduced.
Mr. Aid. THOMPSON, after complimenting the chancellor of
the exchequer upon Vat amount of taxation that had been reduced,
said that the time had arrived when the system of taxation must be
sompletely altered. A tax upon propel!), had its advantages, but a
sax upon capital would be more advantageous. Although he admit.
ted the great advantages this country derived from machinery, still
tie was of opinion that jt had been injurious to the labouring poor.
He eeedernned the amount of duty chargeable upon policies on ma-
rine insurances ; fora policy for which only his. is charged, there was
a government duty of 2s. bd. The consequence of this extravagant
charge was, that the business of marine assurance had left this.
souniry altogether, and passed over to the Netherlands, where the
iesurance was effected without this tax being imposed. Upon
a transaction of a guinea, there was a charge of five shillings
government duty. He conceived this an erroneous system [of
notation and he was disappointed, after the communications
which' he had had with the right honourable the Chancellor of
the Exchequer upon this very subject, to find that it did not form
.4 girt of the taxes to be reduced by the right honourable gentleman.
The same observation would apply to polities of insurance respecting
fire, where the government duty.was actually 200 per cent. upon
the policy. He was of opinion that the four per cents. ought not to
be seduced for another, for as reductions were generally contemplate?:
im the funding system throughout Europe, at the present period, if
it were not brought into operation here until the next year, there
would in all probability be an influx of capital in the country,
which would enable cepitalists of this country to meet the reduce
lions contemplated.
Mr. HUSHISSON rdd that the Chancellor of the Exchequer
lad gone to the very verge of reduction. But he thought be might
have gone farther, rind placed a tax to meet the reduction upon un-'
capital. He hoped that if it were necessary to obtain a
loo:", in consequence of the proposed reduction in the 4 per cents.
that that loan would be Obtained from the public, and not from the

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..r C. Buanact. and Sir T; AcKLAND approved of the budget.
Lord MILTON said that the tax ought to have been taken off
the malt,' then the public would be the gainers, which he feared they
would not be by merely having the tee taken off the beer.
Lord HOW ICK spoke in favour ofsrahing the duty upon spirits.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in reply, said
that the hon. member for Carrington (Mr. Baring) must have n:is
understood him, if he supposed that he (the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer) did not contemplate a surplus in the revenue for 1831.
What he said was this—it was an experiment that would give a
limited surplus—not three millions, as he could have wished, but
certainly not less than 1,500,000/. He hoped by reducing the beer
tax to place a barrier against the drinking of spirits.
Mr. BARING explained.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in reply to an
observation made by the hon. member who spoke last, raid, that it
was his intention to carry the proposed measures into effect.
Mr. D. W. HARVEY did not think that the public would be.
Delft by the reduction of the tax upon beer, and he hoped the people
would not rest gadded until they obtained a free trade in corn. The
taxes ought to be reduced at least 12_,000 0001. and a tax laid upon
property to meet that reduction. The resolutions relative to the
reduction of the tax upon leather, beer, &e. and the increase of is.
a gallon duty upon all spirits, after the present 15th of March, was
then put from the chair, and passed the house.
Mr. CALVERT propose third reading of the East Ret-
tunl Bill.
Mr. HOBHOUSE moved that it be read that day six months.
' Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN said, that as a criminal prose-
cution had been instituted for bribery and corruption committed at
Stockbridge, he should give notice of a motion which he intended
to make, for a copy of the minutes of the judge's notes, and for a
copy of the information.
After a few words from Sir R. Witsox and Mr. FiRQUIMON,
the House divided, when the numbers ware,
For the third reading . . 184
Against It

Majority for the'third reading —Bl
Upon our return to the gallery, we found Mr. O'CONNELL ad.
dressing the house in support of a clause to be introduced into the
bill. directing that voting by ballot should be adopted in the Hun.
dyed of Bassetlaw. The hon. gent. regretted that the plan had not
a move able advocate; but the value of the 'plan was so undoubted,
that it would be its own advocate. The boo. gent. contended that a
vote by ballot was as free, was as independent, as the open vote.—
He had heard it saki that a landlord had a right to command the
votes of his tenantry. He denied such right. Voting by ballot
also put a stop to bribery and riot at elections. He oncluded by
moving that a clause be added to the bill, tcrthe effect that if a poll
be demanded, the Sheriff shall take such poll by ballot.
lit. HUME, in seconding the motion, said, that in the United
States 250,000 votes were taken by ballot without the slightest mark
of riot. The votes there were taken by ballot.
Sir R. WILSON opposed the motion. It would be an Ihnova.
ties of the elective franchise if the house adopted it.
Mr. WARBURTON supported the motion.
Mr. D. W. HaavEY and Mr. Jargaost opposed the motion.
Mr. W. SMITH supported the motion, as be thought it was the
col mode of obtaining a free election of the borough of East Ret.
fwd.—The house tLen divided, when there appeared
For the motion 29
Against it 175
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Majority against the motion 146
The Poor Laws Amendment Bill was read a second time, and
ordered to be committed on Friday.
Lord LOWTHER moved the second reading of the Haymarket
•removal Bill.
Air. W. SMITH said muclidisapprobation was expressed, not
at the removal of the market, but as to the place to which it was
proposed to remove it.
LOWTHER said that in the originatplane for Regent.
street and the Regent's-park, it was fled that the market should 6e
moved to the place named in the Bill.
In answer to a question from Mr. Hoartouer,
Lord LOWTHER said that the carriage-way from Pimlico.
gate to Storey's-gate was in progress, but there would not be any
opening from Waterloo-place into the Park, as had been supposed.
The other Orden of the Day were then disposed of, and the
House adjourned at Half-pmt Twelve o'Clock.

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