The Sun.
London, England, 1842-03-12 00:00:00

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Hon. Gentleman has told us his own opinions, that, lolif
the course of six years there will be a debt incurred
10,000,0001. Why, in 1814, the account of the C°,lll, thir
e
sary-General alone was 10,000,0001. ; and in 18.; nt
subsidies granted to the German Powers, intlepermol,
the expenses incurred for our own troops, was 10,000 v:to
Lord Bexley, in asking at that time for a properlolit
for a few years more, said that the addition to the
debt in the course of four years was 160,000,00uf the
refer to this fact as a justification of our viellit's t°
state of the country last year.—(Hear, hear.) `.ern'
sidering that- it is a very different thing for a .Tfrotil
ment to come forward and state that it refrain
calling on the country for great exertions and saerjor
in the way of taxation, and for independent 100
bers of Parliament when called on for gear
exertions to be parties to a repeal of thew
o.kti„,tl
bear, and cheers —I do not say this as indicatirilatbay
must necessarily acquiesce at once in the plan t tbat
been this night developed to us—but I only Inea!l, lot
strongly feel the difference between our situ`sbali
year, and the gravity of the questions which -o:re,,roiet
now have to consider.—(Hear.) The Right Hon. !,),;`,ooel,
proposes an income-tax which shall amount to 3,70r0f Ire
and on the whole taxation of the country an mother
land he calculates to raise 4,381,0001. Then in oote
part of his statement, he explains how he will f the
part of the surplus to improvements in the tw 'in fessive
country, and to taking off some of t°P he most P.- to se:
of the public imposts. Sir, I am most haPPaii be able
knowledge, and with less 'reserve than I 51
(into The
o approach other parts of his plan, the I,,is The
soundness of the views he has here laid dow.„,itioos
principle that it is desirable to get rid of prohribiory
and to diminish duties that have a Prs:sp,fairy
effect, that principle we all on this si 50
and cordially agree with—(Loud cheers)---sti,„
can assure him that the more these principles a_.ofale
plied, the better it will be for the future situatinatio of
country.—(Cheers.) With respect to the apPlilbe 750
those principles, I cannot speak at present as t°
or 760 articles on which the duties are to be in3P°sei. 510,
we can only have the details on Mond* j3aroliele
merely remind the House that the Right lion' the 00
is, in this respect, in unison with the sentiments 01 the
Government advised her Majesty to rnak,e,,
sth of August last.—(Cries of " Hear, hear. /leo he
I recognise the soundness of the princiP rbe,t
down by the Right Hon. Baronet, I almost regret, to the
has not more extensively applied them, I nett 10,1;
most important article of sugar.—(Hear, resr
the Right Hon. Gentleman was prepared "r. sseri;
to the two articles of sugar and timber to oral' betty
five of 600,0001. of revenue, it would, I think, iind,t
to make the sacrifice on sugar than on tinihe.
my opinion he would lose nothing more by t,
Right Honourable Gentleman then ad'veled
teepee;
the opinions he expressed last year' „,,ar
ing slavery, and . observed that every befe`;,;
creating a monopoly in sugar that did not o,lot 10"';
The object was in former days to support mai,. t/',
colonies. Have the West India colonies fern" Geet'4`,
large quantity of sugar to which the Right /0%4012,
man had referred to-night ? By no means. Tll.,e„raig
tion of sugar from the West India colonies, "n",titi,,,l
last year, was, I believe, inferior, in cintithere
the importation of the • ear before. „ea irkt
been the increase then ? The increase had JOlO
the East Indies, which a ew years before as' ,p9to it
an equalization of duty with the "West Indie
..,s' th
those principles of free trade which they nvtn:,ry }the
their interest to oppose.—(Heir, hear.) -P.- uf r
that you go on refusing to foreign i„.viiisha
entrance into the British market, do 4" r
prohibitory duty on foreign sugar, yollof
encourage the growth of this monopoly
.i.eat„,,,wo
in the East Indies, and thereby interpose 5-Ip, Yg
culty in the way of a regular and sufficient suPP efai•ef
may say to us in the course of two or three, 3a tl lei
you pass such a measure as that proeeproilsoj
may say that " this great article oiatioodlo:
has grown under the protection of your logis 7,.h it l'ja
3rou are obliged now to take our sugar, the aroot,
be dearer, because you yourselves have forced hisrpel
of that sugar by your legislation." Upon „tioft,.th
therefore, I very much regret the deter j
which the Right Hon. Gentleman has eetly
respect to the whole of these plans, I have alive to
that they are far too important—(Hear, hear) t to the Ml.
me to give. any decided opinion with resPe,e ,0
I am glad to find that the Right }lon. r" did or'?
although he has not taken the views which we.
this subject—l am glad to find that be ~15ies 011;i;
to pay so great a homage to sound prineleefore
the question. lam glad also to find that his, met bed
one of such great importance that it must eit it is 're'
cepted or rejected as a great change, and that n the ,P
,c
one of paltry detail.—(Hear, hear.) I think, in ice iv
sent situation of the country, whatever view hag See,
take upon the subject, that the Government ia
worthily as the Government of a great countrYbee.
posing its measures upon the principle it Intstboat 61, I
can only assure Hon. Gentlemen, that wit. whiCie
reference to the conduct of that Ministry ° this ytsv
formed a part, we shall endeavour, on ta 10,131,
of the House, to the best of our ability, tbi
that judgment upon -the subject which we sTwe sko
most useful to the country—(Hear, hear)—anl, to t4;ir
support whatever measure we may think lißeciltolog;i4
the most contentment to the people at large, h I °lir
w tain that high character for this nation, ale to o
every Member of this House is equally anxious or
ul
tain, whether he sit upon this side of the nous°
vinig
the other.—(Cheers.)
Mr. O'CONNELL said that he could not lie,ll/ni.`);
that in much of what had fallen from the IN4I,-
Gentleman upon that part of the subject in ssittc,e appriio
most imme,liately interested, he had his lunnbivita
bation.—(gear, hear.) He agreed entirely
~:„,,6 Grentlernan in thinkin that there co
be a more legitimate source oft axation thitt„roPa
spirits ; and if the Right Hon. Gentleman hal'Aibitlie
a taxation which would amount to a practical 11'09,
he should have gone the entire length with th
rreo.
would recollect at the same time that there were °Se;
of the Chancellor of the Exchequer called sraotiilis,.o
The great danger was, that by increasing ttl;eci
Ireland, they gave a stimulus to smugghug•ta 01/
distillation, and there was no vice connected is:llatiot!,;11
gling that was not exaggerated b private dist,'"‘„re','hie
Were they going to in that additional !„,
of mischief into Ireland ? He was anticipatllog
lvlip
present session would pass over without anYt metioberf
rious to Ireland, and he thought there waSis°,:d it foo,
the state of the Irish Government that renuer wasCtO
undesirable to introduce such distillation. There f thee,'
siderable smuggling at the time of the redact ion
_di. re(10,0,
on spirits ; and if the Right Hon. Gentleman be'd
the amount, instead of raising it to the amount
an
intended, illicit distillation would be utterlY Ptbe spoof
to. The Right' Hon. Gentleman alluded t° ell) the
tion of the Irish distillers. He (Mr. OCono,ll,erecl ids
glad the Right Hon. Gentleman at last disc
wrongs inflicted on the Irish distillers—anci, aan .e";e'
say, inexcusable wrongs—for he never boll tllca ire
given for the increased difficulties thrown iii
ai clo
—(Hear, hear.) The Scotch distillers sent slu a° tat
land in bond, and the Irish distillers colt poi the
the same in return. He was bound We froslate
t
entire amount of the duty on spirits as it camas,eforo
still, and send it to the warehouse—that but bfjer;
the entire quantity that the cask containeaoat.lie
the spirit entered into consumption there ws9o,-05
able diminution ; and notwithstanding,' h...
to pay for the entire quantity, even for tli,gy
not in existence.—(Hear, hear.) The Ifieo.,olo'
Scotch distillers were free from that imP°solo,Yritet
what were they going to do with Ireland ?ear,) „us%
hit her some way or other.--(Hear, nineoP;
must find something to tax. Their toil4'ol'
inlretleannadnwt would baeparotfiott,atlhfailure ;, and as ttitoit,ll-ig
Irish would pircleri
be like taxing moon-shine.—(Laughtor.) gh thst.3ooll
they were right in placing taxes on Ire taQat
pthuet
—lirteyalnadinndt„...h
the .e boo ofili,
b%yo,newdre,eroetrhmeyawdhreaigtthhi,saiesnape-goat for all ntire ?,
th ,o 1
(Hear, hear.) Distillation wtotaasx,bienugnhapP,' .Ibot 1004'
source of productive revenue in Irelantil,
falling, and he hoped that it woul" °u °u
As it was, in addition to their capital 3" dot/ lijer;
their plan they charged them an additional. b anti
that. This was not acting justly by the
the
sluttalg,
they were
,not to answer for tuwee tio0;
the rest of' the Irish people, yet theye fiolto,oo
them do so. He hoped that before th ,he 641,; do;
were passed, some attention would be paid to
situation of the Irish distiller. The 'English 9'2 Irish 1:0
tillers pay nothing more than they did before ; i":o9peet!cie
were selected to pay an additional duty, and a Pot arts jig
too, on the quantity they manufactured. Thtehen shtsirrePsoe:erceDoi
Right Hon. Gentleman had mentioned was
He was exceedingly sorry that this had htfle'eSfati it Q
There was a habit in Ireland of saving inlineufnee,lo otrof
abstaining from using animps and using.plain the f t
to encourage the pr House
to increase
aasre f
duty. Besides, the House was no. - I,li-hi
importance of this consideration, that read in -,ecti
most hideous outrages that had been coninuileeo
C
some of the most atrocious assassinations had v the
~.°4°,oo'
the landlord availing himself of the fact, that o'froo
between him or his family and the tenant ba. bermel
unstamped paper. The murder of the Shells. ataterillie,
no. - sti 'lO
transaction of this kind. A contract was unfit A I
landlords took advantage of it, put in other te.,11 soels
were assassinated by the outgoing tenants.
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°j
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portant beyond its mere fiscal point oi vi the .0 t.,y
it was one of the compensations for duty tee,
that the difference between the stamp of th 9,0001
the ("))0
two countries was always calculated as one part the
between them. He had heard loud cheers fr? they
men opposite, echoed by some on this side!rZre
something about making Ireland pay her le, tallie°o.
lish burdens ; they cheered that, but svhe..re 141,;i0t ch,eed Orr,
claiming equal rights with England they in? eatit'
totally forgot the financial robbery that was tHoeatfhaoirugshhtartehaotf athefairrigshhatsrinwgithofEtohgehuibdu.rooeF4ttoernosoiorf,:,l
land by the Union. At the time the Unr"'llie cn'utol.e,
46.000,0001., and Ireland only 1,00009„" co/. Ir 4
England, on account of her debt, was 17,w`,....0aqh 041;,,
and it was one of the declarations of Lord Castit:rdie deLeo
land should hear none of the proportion of trail .1-_"_...oeredro-hoo,l
ought she. Those were the terms dictated to acr-Qciao,
beJiy
It was a part of the terms of the Union that tli!.roe
bear seventeen millions of separate. taxation. „had 700
for some years after the Union, but latterly
esolsop
millions only, and of this the difference in tb aniCOVet
a part. To be sure there was an 1000megglitadj. I,'
three millions and a• half to be imposed upon__ ht to be
talle•lt
she bore eight millions short of what she "Fen they.
would, therefore, request Hon. Gentlemen, on
, to thint_tii‘i
Ireland bearing her fair proportion of taxation
_n
fraud which had been constantly committed trawl vlirt 110,Po
think of that violation of the terms of the Riga,.
been so constantly perpetrated. lie hoped 00' i]ere
Gentleman would consider the difficulties uncle ish p
distillers laboured, and in the tame of the Irate stafoed
protested against the plan. The increase of d the lf soj
would add to the burdens of the commerce Ore the lee ree '!rg
terest of Ireland at the very time when they ,
to bear the burdens. It was proposed to tax thoof
nib ear
income of Ireland at the very time that theyYivirepol speOeie
the income of the landed proprietors of . 0-1„,
measure for the introduction of foreignproTl'in°i9b
wise in itself, but one calculated at first to ditoe,,, of
of the landed pr, prietors of Ireland. On b