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lature, and received the royal assent in 1843. By the
convention powers were expressly reserved to each of
the two countries to pass the necessary legislative mea-
sures for carrying the said regulations into execution.
We acted on those powers. We passed a law enabling
us by the regular tribunals of the country to inflict pe-
nalties on those subjects of France who contravened the
regulations of the treaty. That law is now in force.
France did not pass any such law, but I apprehend that
all the French Government new propose to do, is to pass
a law enabling them to take measures for giving effect
to the convention. There are no modifications whatever.
Lord PALMERSTON wished to know if there had
been no modifications or alterations of the regulations?
Sir R. PEEL—So far there
.might, have been some
alteration in the regulations ; but these regulations
were now contained in the Act, and he (Sir R. Peel)
believed there had been no modification whatever of
them since. However, it might be that the French
government were now about to pass a law upon the
subject.
Captain PECHELL said he understood that the French
government were about to pass a law which would very
materially affect the regulations of the excellent Act
dray n up by the Noble Lord, for the protection of the
deep sea fisheries belonging to this country ; and,
in fact, petitions were pouring in every day from
the fishers all along the coast of Normandy against
the regulations of the English Act, for the French
people complained of being restricted to a limit
of three miles, within whi▪
ch they could not encroach
towards the English coast, and that therefore they were
unable to catch the herri▪
ngs beyond that limit. It
was true that no alteration had been made
in the English Act passed in 1843 ; but the
French people complained of it as an evil requiring
a remedy, and that remedy he found had been
proposed by a very active member of the Chamber of
Deputies, and addressed to M. Guizot. In fact, the
French Government had been bullied and badgered
upon the subject ; and he held in his hand an
extract from one of the petitions sent in, which
he would read. The Hon. and Gallant Member then
all parts of the House. He said the
read the extract, in French, amidst loud and continued
mlaueagnhitnegr from
ointhe
petition was, that French fishermen
complained of the restrictions of the English Act.
What had fallen from the Right Hon. Baronet would,
Sowever, allay the apprehensions entertained by our
own subjects.
Sir R. PEEL thought it would be unwise for bim to
enter into the question any further—it wan not for them
to canvass the debates on petitions which were presented
in the French Chamber. The fisheries between the two
countries were regulated by convention. There had been
no change in the convention, and no change was in con-
templation.
SCOTCH AND IRISH BANKS.

Mr. BOUVERIE put a question to the Right Hon.
Baronet (Sir R. Peel), which was but imperfectly heard
in the gallery, but which we understood to be, when
the question of the Scotch and Irish banks would be
brought under the notice of the House, and what the
nature of the measure would be. _ _ _

Sir R. PEEL said that from the press of other more
and important business he could not name the particular
period at which he would bring the subject under the
consideration of the House.
Mr. HUME said it would be desirable that the Right
Hon. Baronet would mention the nature of the measure.
Mr. ELLICE said it was extremely desirable that in
a matter of so much importance the Scotch people
should be made aware of the objects and nature of the
proposed change.
Mr. FOX MAULE said, that if no explanation were
given by the Government, he would, when the measure
was brought forward, consider himself at liberty to give
it all the support in his power.
MEDICAL BILLS.
In reply to a question from Mr. HAWES,
Sir JAMES GRAHAM said he did not think it
would be possible for him to bring forward the Medical
Bills that night, and therefore he should at once propose
to take them upon that day week.
EXCISE ACTS—COMMITTEE.
The House then went into Committee on the Excise
Acts.:
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
after the able exposition made by the First Lord of
the Treasury in his financial statement of the grounds in
which he intended to remit certain taxes—after
the detailed explanation he had given of the evil conse-
quences of these taxes on the commerce of the country,
he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) did not think it
would have been considered necessary for him to
trouble the House again on the same subject. He
should have thought that it would have been the general
he might say the unanimous feeling of the House, that
it would be expedient to remit them, but he found that
the Hon. Member for Dorset (Mr. Bankea) had
determined to take the sense of the House on
the remission of the auction duty. He would
have wished that the Honourable Member before
placing his notice upon the paper, had read the report
furnished by the Commissioners on this subject. He
might then have been prepared perhaps to coincide in
their recommendation that the very first ditties to
which the attention of Parliament should be directed
with the view of repealing them, should be
the auction duties, because their character, in a com-
mercial country, was most obnoxious, as all taxes
upon the transfer of property must necessarily be.
Not only did this general objection exist, but they were
also objectionable, as being partial, as they did not affect
all species of property—only one particular clas of pro-
perty were liable to these duties, that which was sold by
auction. They were liable to another objection, thus
applied to the transfer of property, which above all things
ought to be entitled to indulgence. The party selling
had no option as to the course he should pursue in
selling. He need only refer, what was not an uncommon
instance, a case: of recent occurrence which fell under
his own particular notice.e Two estates: had been
lately sold equally reducible. They were each
sold for 100,000/. The proprietor cf one had
contracted an amount of debt, and it became necessary
for him to submit it to sale by auction ; the consequence
was, that when the property was sold 90,0001. was
paid by that individual, and out of the residue,
10,000/, be had to pay 3,0001. the amount of duties.
The other person, whose property was subject to no in-
cumbrance, for he was not liable to debt, sold his pro-
perty by private contract, and thereby avoided the duty.
The whole of the property last year which was put u_p
for sale by auction was of the value of 45,000,000/.,
while the amount of it which was subjeeted to the auc-
tion duty was short of a million. The exemptions
from the auctioe-duty had been carried to a great extent.
rim SPEABLIG.]

NAVAL INTELLIGENCE
PORTSMOUTH, Arlin. 6.—The-Eagle, 50, Captain G. Martin,
C.B. (with the flag of Rear-Admiral Inglefield, C. 8.), sailed
on Sunday for Rio Janeiro.
The Resistance, troop-ship, Commander Patey, returned
from the Downs on Monday, having landed the 74th Regi-
ment at Deal. She was towed into harbour the same day
to refit. She will embark the 49th Regiment (from Win-
chester) on Tuesday next, and convey them to Plymouth,
where the regiment R ill disembark ; the Resistance will then
take on board the 44th regiment, and convey them to Cork,
ee; steam-frigate, arrived on Thursday from
Sheerness,
and thence convey a regiment to Gibraltar.
The
couunrgd
the charge of Mr. Easte, Assistant Master
Attendant, and a party of seamen from the Ocean, and came
into harbour, to be fitted for commission.
The Styx sailed from Malta on the 27th ult., and may be
expected daily, having obtained pratique at Malta. She
Scourge,
will land dispatches and passengers at Portsmouth without
delay.
The Apollo troop-ship, Commander Radcliffe, will embark
two companies of Royal Artillery on Wednesday next at
Chatham, for conveyance to Canada.
Admiral Sir John Talbot, G.C.8., is to succeed to the
command at Plymouth, on its relinquishment by Admiral
Sir David Milnes, G.C.8., whose term expires on the 22d
instant. The Queen, 110, which was commissioned at Chat-
ham, on Thursday, is destined for Sir John Talbot's flag, and
Viscount Ingestre is to be the Gallant Admiral's Captain.
She will be commanded in her experimental cruise by Capt.
Sir W. Symonds.
In liarbour—The St. Vincent flag-ship, the Victory, the
Excellent, the Resistance, the royal yacht, the Nautilus, and
the steam-vessels Echo and Comet.
In the Basin—The Rodney, 92, fitting for sea; the Trin-
comalee, preparing for razeeing; and the Scourge steam-
sloop and Siren brig fitting for the pendant.
In Dock—The Hibernia, 120, fitting for sea the Pi ince
Regent, razeeing; the Harlequin, refitting for the pendant;
the Athol troop- ship, fitting for surveying service; and the
Fearless and Centaur steamers, the former refitting, and the
latter building.
APRIL 6.—The Fearless steam-vessel, Commander Sher-
ringham, having nearly completed her refit, was undocked
yesterday.
The Comet steam-vessel, Lieutenant-Commander Prety-
man, left yesterday for Sheerness and Chatham, taking to
the former place Mr. Easte and the men who navigated the
Scourge to this port, and to the latter place men and war-
rant- officers appointed to the Queen.

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PROMOTIONA.
Commander W. P. Roberts (1812) to be retired Captain.
Lieutenant J. Foote (1835), late flag to Rear. Admiral
Thomas, to be Commander.
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(second APPOINTMENTS.
Lieutenants—G. R. Wolrige and W. Moorsom to the Ex-
cellent ; 0. Cumberland to the Queen.
Masters--T, Richardson, to the Vernon ;J. A. M'Beau
G. A. Stabbe (second), to the Hibernia ; G. Angier (second),
Hospital ;
), to the Terror ; F. J. Rent (second), to the Lizard;
to the Vanguard ; J. J. Colman (second), to the Apollo ; R.
Sturgess (assistant), to the Hibernia.
Surgeons—T. 11. Keown to the Vesavius ;G. I. Walsh
(additional assistant), to the Poictiers, for service at Melville
Kerr (assistant), to the Speedy ; E. Lawless (acting assist-
ant),W. M‘Mahon (assistant), to the Fearless ; W. D.
to the Vesuvius ; J. T. Caddy (acting assistant), to the
Victory, for service at Haslar ; W. C. Torrance (acting as-
sistant), to the Stromboli; T. Soccombe (acting assistant),
to the Lizard ; J. M. G. Steele (additional acting assistant),
to the San Josef, for service at Plymouth Hospital ; S. Bow-
den (acting assistant), to the Spy.
Paymaster and Purser—J. Marsh to the Melampus.
Chaplain—G. Bryan, to the Melampus.
Mates—ll, A. Clavering, to the Pandora; R. Jenkins, to
the Hibernia; H. D. Selby (acting), to the Excellent.
Clerk—R. W. M. Jones, to the Vesuvius.
Midshipman—G. Trevenan, to the Eagle.
Naval Cadets—C. W. Baynton, and F. A. Henner, to the
Hibernia; A. F.
Gregory, to the St. Vincent.

COAST GUARD.
Appointments—Commander O. Oates, to be inspector of
the Gosport district, vice Ramsay, period of service ex-
pired;. '
Commander J. T. Talbot, to be inspector of the
Whitby district, vice Robinson term expired; Lieutenant
Elwin, to Command Southampton water station, vice Liddon,
removed ; Commander J. S. W. Grandy, to the Active
cruiser, Portsmouth-harbour station, vice Elwin ; Lieutenant
C. Goldshitb, late of the Shamrock cutter (paid off) to a
station.

Removals.—Lieutenant W. Hole, from Belfast, to the
Weston-super-Mare, vice Glinn, resigned; Lieutenant R. G.
J 4117, from St. Andrews to North Queen's-ferry station ;
Lieutenant J. Allen, R.N from Challabrough to Portsmouth-
harbour station, vice Grandy;" Lieutenant H. Collins from
Blythe-harbour to Jarroquay station ; Lieutenant W. H.
Goslin, from Roundstone, to north Isle of Arran, vice Freyre,
removed.

DEVONPORT, APRIL 3.—The Paring, Ezpiegle, and Flying
iih are in the —urbaar, refitting with all expedition for

foreign service. The current report is, that the Daring is
for the Coast of Africa; Flying Fish, the West Indies; and
Espiegle, for the East Indies. They will be in the Sound
in a few days for their final orders.—The Netley, tender,
brought sane supernumeraries l'c,rtAnontit on I%.ton-
day.—The Dublin, 50, Captain J. T. Tucker. arrived from
Portsmouth on Monday, and has come into harbour to he
paid off.—The Emerald, tender, arrived from Portsmouth on
Wednesday, with supernumeraries, and sailed for Jersey on
Thursday.

In Harbour—The Caledonia, San Josef, Albion, Canopus,
Vanguard, Superb, Dublin, ➢lelampus, Grecian, Daring,
Espiegle, Flying Fish, Pandora, Petrel, Netley, and Sylph,
tenders; the Confiance steam-vessel; the Diligence naval
transport; and the Tortoise and the Hamoaze navy lighters.
In the Sound—The Vesuvius Dutch steamer.

On Saturday the annual general meeting of the
members of the Society of Schoolmasters was held in the
apartments of the Literary Fund, Great Russell-street,
Bloomsbury ; the Rev. Dr. Russell in the chair. The
report was read by Octavius Blewitt, Esq. The Secre-
tary stated, that his Majesty the King of the French, who
had been for many years a member of the Society, had
presented this year an additional donation of 10/. The
Association was established in 1798, and during the first
thirteen years of its existence, bad given to forty families
of distressed schoolmasters the sum of 7,000/, and 5,0001.
in other charitable donations. The receipts since the
last anniversary amounted to 5241, and the expenses to
3801. The report was adopted. _

ACCIDENTAL DEATH AT THE EAST INDIA Cog-
PANY'S MILITARY SEMlNARY.—Gentleman Cadet John Baillie
(nephew of a late East India Director), while amusing him-
self with several other Cadets in drawing a heavy iron roller,
slipped, when, sad to say, the roller passed over him, and
instantly crushed him to death. The youth was in his IWi
year, and was the son of Mr. G. Baillie, late of the Bengal
Medical Establishment.

THE MURDER IN ST. GILES'S.

INQUEST ON THE BODY. .
THE CORONER AND THE POLICE.

The inquest on the body of Mary Brothers was resumed
on Saturday afternoon at three, at the Angel Inn, High-
street, St. Giles's, before Mr. Wakley, M.P.
The Court having been opened,
Mr. WAKLEY inquired of Harvey, the beadle, if there were
any additional witnesses ?
Harvey said there were none summoned in addition to
those in attendance on the last occasion.
Mr. WAKLEY—Are all the witnesses here ?

Harvey said he had summoned them, but he understood
from Inspector Black that all the witnesses were at Bow-
street, and that the prisoner was then under examination.
Mr. WAKLEY said he Lad issued a warrant this morning
for the production of the prisoner before them at a quarter-
past ten ; and complained that it had not been complied with.
From questions put to the inspector and sergeant, it ap-
peared that the warrant was in their possession, and that they
could not inform him whether the magistrate, Mr. Jardine,
had seen it or not, though from Mr. Burnaby, the chief
clerk at Bow-street being aware of the tenor of it, and their
superintendent sitting by the magistrate, it was not un-
likely that he had. The prisoner had been taken into cus-
tody at six o'clock last night, and conveyed to the Court as
early as half-past nine this morning, and they had no power
to interrupt the usual course adopted in respect
to persons taken into custody, who were taken
on the morning following their arrest before the sitting ma-
gistrate.
Mr. WAKLEY said that if the magistrate had not seen the
warrant, or was not acquainted with its purport, and unaware
of what transpired here, he might commit the prisoner for trial
without coming before them.
Sergeant Logan said it was intended to submit the Coroner's
warrant to the magistrate at the close of the examination.
Mr. WAKLEY said—Gentlemen, I will tell you what trans-
pired at the last examination. You remember that the
inquest was adjourned, in order that, if any person was
taken into custody on the charge of having murdered
Mary Brothers, we might sit immediately on the spur of the
moment, and go on with the investigation. You will also recol-
lect that the police in the room received that intimation—they
were told that information should be conveyed to the Coro-
ner's office directly any one was taken into custody on the
charge of having slain Mary Brothers. I heard of no person
being taken into custody until about 6 or 7 o'clock last night,
in the House of Commons. lam not quite sure as to the
time, but I think it was about the time I have mentioned.
I received information to that effect from the Secretary of
State for the Home Department on the floor of the House
of Commons. He handed me a note which he had re-
ceived from Mr. Mayne, the Police Commissioner, stating
that a man had been taken into custody, and was at Bow-
street. Determined not to act by messenger—taking
especial care that no misconception, no misconstruction, and
no misrepresentation should occur, I went to Bow-street my-
self to ascertain the accuracy of the statement. When
there I saw the inspector now present (Black)
and the person who had been taken into custody. I imme-
diately addressed a letter to Mr. Mayne, stating that I was
to hold the adjourned inquest either at half-past nine o'clock
this morning or at three this afternoon, and asking
him if he would consider himself justified in sending
the prisoner here this morning at half-past nine, that
I might go on with the investigation. A policeman was dis-
patched with this letter to Mr. Mayne, and last night at 12
o'clock, I received the following reply :

" Eleven o'Clock.

"My Dear Sir—l have received your note relating
to the party in custody on suspicion of murdering
Mary Brothers; and I beg to say, in reply, that
I do not conceive I am authorised to direct the police to de-
part from the ordinary established course, according to which
he will be taken before the magistrate at his sitting in the
morning.—l am, dear Sir, your obedient servant,

"R. MAYNE."

Of course, when I received this note, seeing no chance of
the prisoner being brought here at half-past nine o'clock
this morning, I inferred that by appointing the further in-
vestigation for three o'clock this afternoon, that the magis-
trate would have completed, or proceeded so far in the inquiry,
that the witnesses, or at least some of them, could be
here, that we might be enabled to go on with the investiga-
tion. I do not think it was an unreasonable inference on my
part—( Hear, bear)—there was ample time between ten this
morning and three this afternoon. One witness, however, is
here—Mr. Fitzgerald, who we did not examine on the
last occasion ; and I will write to Mr. Jar-
dine, stating that the jury is now sitting and
desiring that the prisoner may come here as soon as he
has done with him.—(Hear, hear.) These things (continued
Mr. Wakley) are very perplexing and especially annoying to
me ; and I suspect that in the end it will produce a great
deal of indignation in the public mind, and I am strongly
of opinion that it is impossible that jurymen can per:orm
their duty in being obliged to return verdicts of wilful
murder against persons whose identity is not proved before
thern.—(Cheers.) I entertain that opinion, and juries also
entertain it. I cannot conceive how any obstacle can exist in
any quarter—juries cannot properly determine on the guilt of
persons accused of such serious offences and discharge their
duty to society, unless the suspected party is before them.
Many county magistrates are of a different opinion. Such a
course is most unreasonable, and he could not conceive why
it should be entertained. Juries are most ancient
institutions, and protect the interests of the
people from aggression. The Honourable Gentle-
man then went on to say, that for the last six years he
had been endeavouring to sustain the powers belong-
ing to the Coroner's Court, and if jurymen themselves
would not take the subject up, it must in effect be abandoned.
Nothing could be more repugnant than to return a verdict
against a man without his being present
to hear the evidence on which it was arrived at,
and without having the opportunity of uttering
one word in explanation or his defence—(Hear, hear)—nor
to suggest a single question, or check by his presence
every one who may be disposed to give false testimony.—
(Hear, hear.) They would not like such treatment them-
selves and in his opinion it was a violation of
the law. The police were hostile to the production of
persons before the Coroner's Court, and thought
that jurymen could not form proper opinions.—(hear, hear.)
The next time votes of money were proposed to the police
he would take care that they had especial trouble in getting
it.—(Laughter and cheers.) He then read the warrant he
had issued for the production of the prisoner before him,
and which had been handed by him to the police. He con-
cluded by stating that, unless some effort was made, the
prisoner would be committed without his being brought
before them.

The jury being unanimously of opinion that the Coroner
should write to the Magistrate as he had suggested, a letter
was written by the Coroner to that gentleman, the sub-
stance of which was as follows :

" That, at the desire of the fifteen jurymen, he had to re-
quest that the prisoner, Joseph Connor, should be sent before
the Coroner's Court, in order that he might be identified
by the witnesses."
The Foreman said the Coroner had better add to it, that
he had issued a warrant for the production of the prisoner
before him, which had been suppressed by the police.
Inspector Black—lt has not been suppressed. The chief
clerk knew the purport of it.

Mr. Wakley did not appear in favour of this course, and
the letter was dispatched.
Mr. WAKLEY--Wre want the witnesses to identify the
man charged with committing the murder. None have yet
seen him in the presence of the jury.

Several of the witnesses who had been examined at Bow-
street then repeated the evidence which they had given.
Towards the conclusion of the proceedings the fvllowing
Ltter was received by the Coroner from Mr. Jardine :

" Police-court, Bow street, April 5, 1845.

" Sir,—ln reply to your letter, just received, I have to in•
form you that Joseph Connor has been this day committed
by me to Newgate to take his trial for the murder of Mazy
Brothers.--I am, Sir, your obedient servant,
" D. JARDINE.

"To Thomas Wakley, Esq."
Mr. Wakley having in strong terms animadverted on the
conduct of the magistrate and the police, and having stated
his intention of bringing the subject before Parliament, put
it to the jury whether they would then agree to a verdict or
adjourn, in order to have the prisoner brought before them.
The jury retired to consult, and on re-entering the room,
The CORONER asked "were they prepared to say they
could come to a verdict of wilful murder' against any indi-
vidual, without having the individual before them."
A juryman--I for one, say we could not.
The CoaorrEß—What does the foreman say ?
Mr. Rogers—The beet answer I can give to that question