Star.
London, England, 1808-06-09 00:00:00

Surplus to be carried to Ways and Means for 1208 259,093
Interest and Sinking Fund of Debt
Quota of Expence for the Year/
...... 6,337,553
(5,868,5 l 5 Brit.)

9,767,550

Annual Means for 1808.
Revenues and Extraordinary Resources
Loan raised in Inland
-- --- Great Britain
Supplies as above
--.—....

9,767,425

He then moved a variety of resolutions, correspondent
to his statement, which were agreed to after a short
discussion on the terms of the Irish Bank Loan, which
were objected to by Sir J. NEWPORT and Mr. PAR-
NELL, and defended by Mr. FOSTER and the CHAN-
CELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER.
Sir J. NEWPORT enquired into the state of the
Collectors balances. Last year they had increased
860,000. He did not attach blame to this circum-
stance, but he wished to know what prospect there
was of their being reduced.
Mr. FOSTER replied, that every regulation on
that subject had been hitherto enforced without effect.
All possible steps were now taking to reduce the ba-
lances, and he had great hopes that before the next
meeting of Parliament that object would be in a great
measure accomplished.
The House having been resumed, the report was
ordered to be received to.morrow.
CURATES' BILL.
The Order of the Day for going into a Commit-
tee on the Curates' Bill being read,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
moved, that the Speaker do now leave the chair.
Mr. WESTERN opposed the motion. He could
not, be said, conceive upon what principle it was pro-
posed to take from incumbents so large a portion of
their income. He considered their livings in the na-
ture of freeholds, which they held liable to certain
services. The principle which it was the object of the
Bill to apply to Rectorial property, would equally ap-
ply to Ecclesiastical property of every kind.
Mr. W. WYNNE observed, that the duty of an in-
cumbent was not merely to provide a person to read
the service, and discharge the other functions of his
profession. Residence was also a part of his duty.—
The Bill could not be considered as a hardship. It
applied only to livings above 4001. per annum, and
fixed the maximum at 2501.
Mr. CREEVEY agreed with his Honourable
Friend, who opened the debate, that the Bill was a
direct violakion of property. If any regulation of the
salaries of Curates were necessary, they should be
framed upon the principles of the statute of the 12th
Anne, and the 36th of the present King—the first of
which increased the stipends of Curates to 501. and
the latter to 751. per annum. He had no objection
to go into a Committee, and to strike the same pros
portion now. The principle of the Bill appeared to
him to be as monstrous and unjust as the worst law
of the worst period of the French revolution. If to '
compel residence were, as he suspected, the object of
the Bill, and the existing laws were insufficien., w
not repeal them, and bring in another ? If it we
desirable that Ecclesiastical property should be more
equally divided, why did they confine themselves to
the partial plunder of Rectorial property ? Why did
not they fall upon the Chapters and Deaneries, and
other descriptions and modifications of Church pro-
perty ? He trusted there would not be a hu.
found in the kingdom to give effect to the principle of
the Bill, and to deprive, by a dash of his pen, an in-
cumbent of a fifth part of his income. He could not
conceive who had advised the Right Honourable
Gentleman to bring in the Bill. The University of
Cambridge, with which he was connected, was against
it. So he understood was the University of Oxford.
The Rectors of London had petitioned against it—so
did the Clergy from other parts of the kingdom. The
supporters of the bill were a description ofpersons who
Total ...... 280,462 I were not the most favourable to the principles of the
In order to raise this sum, it would be necessary i Church of England. They were to be found among
to impose new taxes, and he trusted the Committee the Foreign Bible Society, the Society of Missionaries,
would concur with him in opinion, that it would be 1 the Society for the Suppression of Vice, the dealers
better to effect this not by imposing a number of small in missions to convert the Catholics at home to Pro-
taxes, but rather to lay on a large tax at once, in such testantism, and the Mahometan natives of India to
a way as would least affect the community in Ire- Christianity. The Bishop of London, he understood,
land. It was well known, that in Ireland, as was the only one on that Reverend Bench who sup-
well as in England, the distilleries evaded the malt- ported the Bill. He was, in fact, identified with it.
duties in a considerable degree, by distilling from His Lordship, in the excess of his liberality, had
raw cern—he therefore proposed to extend to all raw given a living of 12001. a year to a Missionary from
corn used in distillation, the duties at present imposed Bussorah—to a Pole, who must pass through some
upon malt. It was also his intention to propose an , ceremonies in another House, before he could avail
additional duty on foreign spirits imported into Ire- himself of the donation. The Clergy in general, as
land. These sums, together with the saving in the far as he could collect their sentiments, were very
management of the Debt, would more than cover the much alarmed at the Bill.
charges of the Interest and Sinking Fund of the three : Mr. BURTON said, he had not the honour of
Loans, viz. being _a Member of any of the Societies mentioned by
Extension of the Malt Duties to Raw Corn, &c.
Duty on Foreign Spirits
Savings in the Management of the Public Debt
of the principles of the Church of England—yet he
would support the Bill. He would not say but that
there were clauses in it which he wished might bemo.
dified, and he hoped they would. As to the argu-
ment that it was innovation, that might be easily an-
swered. Did the persons who urged it recollect that

CAPTAIN MANBY'S INVENTION.
Mr. CURWEN stated the advantages likely to result from the
invention of Captain Manby, by which a rope attached to a chain
could be fired from a bomb against the wind, to the relief of ship-
wrecked Mariners. He observed, that were this invention in
general use, the loss of 67 brave men, wrecked on the coast of
Norfolk last summer, in the SNIPE cutter, would have been pre-
vented. He mentioned this circumstance to the House, in the full
conviction that that was all which it was necevary for him to do.
Admiral HARVEY thought one of the Public Boards would
be the best place to apply to on this subject, rather than to the
House of Commons.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had no doubt,
that if an invention which contributed so much to the preserva-
tion of the lives of men, were mentioned to the Board of Admi-
ralty, they would give great attentien to it, and would afford an
ample opportunity for fairly trying the experiment, and ascertain-
ing to what degree of merit this invention was entitled.
Mr. YORKE bore testimony to the probable efficacy of the in-
vention.
IThe House having been resumed, the report was ordered to be
received to-morrow.

SUPPLY.
In the Committee of Supply the following sums were voted :
.e. 68,767 For Secret Service.
54,000 For Buildings on Tower Hill.
1,913 For Salaries of the Officers of the Nouns of Lords and
Commons.
6,000 For Bounties on Fish for the London and Westminster
Markets.
51,250 For Inland Navigation to Fort William.
12,100 For Expences of Works done at both Houses of Par-
liament.
[ 8,9641 For Expences of Works done at House of Commons.
9,000 For extra Charge of Messengers to the Secretary of
State.

2,908 For extra Expences.
1,1,000 For the Board of Agriculture.
1,000 For the Veterinary College.
20,000 For further Relief of the suffering Clergy and Laity of
France.
23,000 For maintaining the British Force on the African Coast.

IRISH BUDGET.
Mr. FOSTER, after observing that he would detain
the House but a very short time, briefly stated, under
the various heads, the sums required in Ireland for
the service of the year, 1808, amounting in all to nine
millions seven hundred and sixty-seven thousand
pounds, Irish currency, remarking that this was a
very large sum for that country. To meet this he
enumerated various items, viz. the ordinary revenue
four millions eight hundred thousand pounds—the
loan contracted in Engla.td for the service of Ireland
two millions seven hundred and eighty thousand
pounds—the loan to be granted by the Bank of Ire-
land, for the renewal of their charter, one million
two hundred and fifty thousand pounds ; the Loan
contracted in Ireland seven hundred and fifty thou-
sand pounds, &c. making together the sum of nine
millions seven hundred and sixty-eight thousand
pounds, Irish currency.
With respect to the loan contracted for in Ireland,
it had been contracted for in the three and a halt per
cents and at an interest not exceeding that on the
loan raised in Great Britain, viz. 41. 14s. 6d. per cent.
The charges per annum of the interest and sinking
fund on the three loans would be as follow :
The Loan r4istsd in Ireland
The Bank of Ireland Loan
The Loan raised in England

TotJ _ 363,000

There were certain arrangements dependent on the
measure now before Parliament, relative to the Dis-
titat. on from Sugar, with which he would not then
triuLle the Committee.