The Sun.
London, England, 1820-02-24 00:00:00

SUPPIN, AND \VAT; AND ME.\NS.

The Eatl of LAUDRLDALE, after reading the
Ileso!utiOns of th'e House of Commons respectilig
the. Supply, ar.d Ways and Altatis, during the in.
tet val between the disso' tient of thipresent'Nt-
liament and tie calling of a new one, sail he tett
it his duty to call the attention of the House to
this step on. the part of the Commons, which had
a direct tendency to set aside tie power of their
Lordships Over aft grants of tie public money,
xvhich it teas well known came up in the usual
course for their approbation in an Approptiatk,o
Bill. lit' did not wish to embarrass the MeaSUT,9
cf the Noble Lends opposite by interposing delay,
but he felt it his duty to hying tot ward some mo-
tion which sh,yuld.aC least go thislength, that
the proceeding of which he complained should
'not be drawn into a precedent. This motion
Le proposed to bring forw.ard to-morrow. It
was in every point of view most important that
the attention of the House should be' called to
the suh.kt. Under the Civil List Act ccrtaio an-
nuities were to be paid, which absolutely ceased
On the death of the late King, and yet the House
of Commons had taken upon them to suspend the
Jaw npon
,this point, by which these annuities
were extinguished, and to declare, that cotwith-
standing they bad thus ceased, they should con-
tinue to be paid as before. Were such, an as-
sumption oft the part of the Comments to p,ss lin-
net:iced, it must be evident that the power of their
Lordships over the grant's of public money
might, upon such precedents, be altogether set

abide.
The Earl of LIViIiPOOL observed, that the ob-
jection taken i►v the Noble Lard might have been
entitled to some weight, had it not been for the
I.llessAge of his Maiesty to that and the other
Howse, respecting the intended dissf►lution of Pat-
littment, to %thick that liouse had returned an

gwer, pledging thrmselves trr con-ur in any [llea.'
sure for getting through the business without de-
lay, that ivas necessary to be done to provide for
the public service in the interval between the dis-
solution of the present l'ailiament and the calling
of a new/ one. Phis took away the force of the
objection urged by the Noble Earl ; and besides

(1)13, it Was well known, that in triune!' instances
f)f dissolution in the mislst of a Session, brtoie the
-ApProptiation Bill was • brought in, the Supplies
Noted rested in precisely the same manner as at
resew, urrowitesolutioni-tif the Hone of Coin-
. mons wiitizkat any concurrence upon the par! of
that

The Ntt'vess of LANSDOWN COMettdCll, tint the
argument urged by die N„ le Earl made against
the eourse that. had been pursued, rather than in
fat:'o"tir of it, as i❑ the instances alluded to, disso.

itt'tion had come suddenly upon the Parliament,
'-vhilst in tl►e preseht case, contrary to all former
pit cedEnt, t►►e Crovol had consulted the Parlia-
ment respecting the propriety of the Parliament's
ots'n dissolution, and Cherefore surely care might

Dave been taken to avoid the dilemma into which

they had fallen. It served, however, to Om the
• claliger of (I, partitik, without .reason, from the
established precedents, his Majesty's Ministers
having thus beconie-partieE to a fuozeeding which
tended to deprivethar House of all controsil over
the grants of public money. This Was undoubt-
edly a question which was highly deserving the
serious consideration of their Lordships.
The Earl of LAUDERDALR observed, that it was
. of no use whatever calling for the concurrence of
that House in the measuses to he adopted, if the
measures required eduld be chrti:zd into etitct

without its concurrence.
The Earl of DoNotrcumona contended, that
the Nlessage from .his Majesty could never he
construed into a call upon that House to depart
from all their accustomed forms..
The Earl of LIVeRPOOL observed, that he had

never intended to say that the Message from his
11laiesty was in itself a sufficient authority for any
departure from the usages of the House. It was
perfectly competent for their Lord Ships, if they
had tbdught proper, 'to return au• Answer to the
King's Message protesting against a dissohnion ;
but they having, by their Address in- answer to
that Alessa4e, plsdged themselves to concur in
any measure that 'might be necessary tot exp-dit•
Jos the regoisitef.public business, he contended
chat'that Address formed` the justification'of the
proceedings that were now Objected to.
'lke Earl of DoNotic:nmitts naint,Jined, that
the Bourse by thi.dr Address only pledged them.
selvts to concur in expediting tile requisite public

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biliiincss, but they did nol.pletige themselves to
depart from theirirctustumed.Parlhitnentary forma.
Tbe-Lordi were ordered to be summoned:for
to-rndrrow.

MUTINY BILL, &c.

The Expiring Laws Bill' and the Nlnt'itiv
were read a second time and committed tor to-

Morrow.

The Eqrl GnOSVBNOR said a few Worth on the
Mutiny Bill, objecting to the large amount of the
standing army,. and regrettit.lg ;bat: a fairopnor-
tunity was not afforded for discussing the expe-
diency of the increase of the military tome of the
Coontiy, resorted to iu the last. Autumn.,
The• Earl of LnizePoor; said, that the amount
cif the army in any ,one year must of course de-
Pend upon circumstances ; the question, however,
would be .open for the consideration of .the new
l'arliament.—Adjourned tilltomorrow (ibis day).