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were .liore ed in every respect qualified to do credit to the public ser-
vice mill' hat these omissions might be efficiently filled up. Being on
his itga; he would take that opportunity of giving notice that on Thurs-
day be would present a bill, to which he called the attention of the
noble lord on the ems- bench, " for the better administration of justice,
lit the establishment of Local Courts." He brought it forward thus
early in the session, in order, as the subject was most important. and se
many of the provisions were of a novel nature, that their lordships
might have full time for its consideration. (Hear.)
Viscount 51ELBOITRNE said that, hoeing entered the house while
the noble lord was speaking, he was not acquainted with what had
previously been stated, but he could only say that he concurred with the
noble at.d learned lord in his recommendation to the bolds lieutenant of
cuuaties, and he cordially joined with him in advising that the com-
missions of the peace should be carefully revised, in order that the
eatNeistracy should he put into the most efficient possible state, by the
addition of such talent, knowledge, and ability, as could he added to
it. I Hear, hear.) He had every confidence in the discretion of the
noble and lamed lord, and he had no doubt but that be would refuse
to listen to every recommendation that was not worthy of its object.
He was well aware that the commission of the peace was prin.
sipally given on the recommendation of the lords lieutenant of
aotintfes. but he also knew that it was bestowed in different counties
on different principles. (Hear.) He did not mean to say which was
right or which was wrong ; but he begged those noble individuals to
consider well those persons from whom they had to select, so as that no
one should be omitted who was qualified, and likely to discharge his
duty with firmness, talent, and ability. With respect to the disturb.
antes which a noble lord had alluded to as the foundation of his qua-
Lion. the present was not the moment to enter upon the subject at length:
but he agreed with thenobleand learned lord that many persons had been
deluded into crime who were not aware of what they had been doing.-
1k agreed in the propriety and necessity of the law being speedily and
carefully explained to the people; and he trusted that it would be
carried into effect with as much severity as was essential to correct the
evil, but with as much moderation and clemency as the circumstances
of each case would possibly allow. (Hear.) He trtutted that the evil
would be stopped in time; and though he was anxious not to hold
out hopes which might afterwards prove delusive, he had sonic reason
to think that it would not go further (hear); but, if it did, his Illa.
jeaty's servants were determined to do all that lay in their power to
preserve the public peace, and to maintain the authority of the laws
(hear). With respect to the statement made by the Noble and Learned
Lord, certainly not upon direct and qualified authority, he could only
say that, from the short time that he had been in office, he was not
fully acquainted with all the information that had been accumulated
by his predecessor; but while he neither confirmed nor denied it posi-
tively, he would assert that he had no reason to believe it to be true.
The Earl of' ELDON was understood to say that he would make in.
quiries into the fact, and he would feel it to be his duty personally to wait
un the Noble Viscount with the result, as well as to acquaint their
Lordships generally upon it.
The Earl of FALMOUTH said that the noble earl at the head of his
majesty's government had announced that it was not his intention to
bring forward any measure for the extension of the law, unless a case of
extreme =comity arose ; but he begged to assure that noble earl that
this case had *heady arrived, and that the country was in a state of ex-
treme necessity.—(Hear, hear.) They bad been told that one of the
gaols of' the kingdom was filled by foreigners. It was not the first time
that the fact was stated ; indeed he believed it to be notorious that those
incendiaries, who had come like fiends from the infernal regions, were
men who, not content with destroying their own country, sought to in-
troduce the same horrors into others, and to involve all in one universal
ruin.—(Haar, hear.) He hoped that they would not long be suffered
to riot in their crimes, and that the strong arm of the law would at length
be extended to them--(Hear, hear.) He considered that the Special
Commission would be of infinite service in tranquilizing the
country, and he recommended that its power and progress should be
extended until those incendiaries be laid hold of. In the mean thus it
wag fit that their lordships should recollect how many were the evils
which pressed upon the country. The farmers, whose spirit was aroused,
were put to great daily expantes by the constant watch which they were
obliged to keep up. These were, indeed, times requiring every energy,
and though no man,was more attached to the liberty of the subject than
himselt, still, if there was any truth in the axiom " that the public
safety was the supreme law, ' he felt that the present moment came
within that rule, and that it was necessary to press for some measure
mote powerful than those in operation. He even recommended a tem-
porary Alien Act, by which suspicious foreigners could be at once
seized, and made to give an account of themselves. In fine, he was
convinced that it was absolutely necessary for his Majesty's Govern-
ment to bring forward some prompt and efficient measure, by whkb
the miscreants could be laid hold of, and the peace of the country
be secured.

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The Duke of WELLINGTON—I must say, after the fullest con.
sideration 1 have given to the subject, 1 have not as yet seen that there
are any reasons or grounds on which an alteration in the existing laws
could be made by Parliament. (Hear, hear.) It appears to me that
the evils are of two natures : first, the open outrage, which I have
no doubt the exertioos of the country will itself get rid of ; and,
secondly. that secret description of crime to which the Noble Lord his
referred, namely, the destrucdon of property by fire. I believe that
with regard to the latter I can safely say that no trace of the cause has
as yet been found. Ws asserted by some that foreigners, following the
example of similar offences in other countries, have been the agents of
aims ; but I have seen no evidence whatsoever to satisfy me that such
is the case. (Hear.) Certain it is that the fires are to be at.
tributed to a conspiracy of some sort ; but whether of Eng-
lishmen or foreigner. I am sure that I can't say ; and with re.
spect to the statement that foreigners are in gaol for the
offence, I can only speak of the county of Hampshire, with
which I am best acquainted, and there I have heard of no such fact.--
With regard to die addition to the magistracy recommended by the
noble and learned lord, I take the liberty of advising him to abstain
front all interference with the Lords Lieutenant of counties. They are
chosen on account of their station and property in each county, and they
are most interested in selecting proper and efficient persons to fill the
commission of the peace. I ant also sure that they will take care to
attend to the suggestion of the noble and learned lord that a sufficient
number of well.qualified and able persons arc brought into the commis-
sion; and as I am sensible that local knowledge is essentially necessary
in the making a wise and effective choice, I recommend to the noble and
learned lord to abstain as much as possible from interfering with those
who are already possessed of those advantages.—(Hear.)
The Earl of WINCHRLSEA said that he begged leave to add
his testimony to that of the noble duke ; and, as far as he was able
to state from his connection with the county where the outrages had
first broken out, there was no ground for belief up to that moment,
that the fires were caused by foreigners. (Hear, hear.) He, there-
fore, differed with the noble lord who spoke from the cross bench ;
sod, in his opinion, the law as it now stood, if effectually adminis-
tered. was sufficient to remote the tranquillity of the country. (Hear,
hear.) He believed that the special commission would be a great
good, and prove an act of mercy to the deluded people, as he knew,
of his own knowledge, that many of them were ignorant of the law
of the land, and were unconscious of the nature of the crime, into
which they had been betrayed by others more designing. (Hear.
hear, hear.) He hoped that the Commission mould not be stopped
until it had done an effectual service. and that it would be extended
to every county in England where the laws had been broken. (Hear,
bear.) lie expected trout it the happiest results, and his only alarm
was that It might not be sufficiently enlarged. He had not been in the
house before that evening since the change of Administration had taken
place, and he had not had the satisfaction of hearing the speech of the
noble earl to whom his Majesty had confided the head of his Govern.
meat, but be had read that speech, and the sentiments contained in it ,
not only gave him great satisfaction, but he knew that they had given ',
satisfaction to the great body of his Majesty's subjects. He was sure
that prudent retrenchment and a wise economy, as well as the restitu-
tion of a constitutional representation, were objects to which the public
miud had long been directed; and he was satisfied that the declaration
of the noble earl, promising all those points, would afford general gra-
tification. For his own part, be complimented their lordships on seeing
at the head of his Majesty's Government an individual like the noble
earl, of talent and energy, who was capable of meeting the exigencies of
the country.
The Earl of CARBERRY, who spoke with his voice directed from
the bar. tio that it was not heard at it, was understood to read • speech
made by lit. Maurice O'Connell, in Dublin, and a letter from Doctor
Doyle, in answer to a vote of thanks passed to hint at a public meeting,
and to call their lordships' attention to the state of feeling in Ireland--
which, if acted upon by those inflammatory speeches, would set the
country in a blase before one month.
Lord WYNFORD said, it was not his intention to prolong the dis-
cuision which his remarks had given rise to. He would submit a no-
tice of motion relative to the distressed state on some distant day, in the
hope that the subject would, before that time, be taken up in an effi-
cient quarter. He knew that in many cases, since the speech of his
Majesty on the opening of Parliament, the people did not believe that
their situation was thought of; and he felt that they ought to be made
satisfied that attention would be paid to their distress, as well as in.
qui be made into the cause of it. He intended, therefore. to propose,
on lbwrsday se'nnight, that the house should take into consideration
the distressed state of commerce, agriculture, and manufactures, with a
view to ascertain by what means those distresses could be alleviated.

70011 LAWS.

The Marquis of SALISBURY rose, according to notice, to move
far the appointment of a Committee to inquire into the state of the poor
laws, but he spoke in so low a tone, that it was impossible to hear more
than eqe or two connected sentences at the bar. The noble lord went
into a salcitiation and comparison of the prices of labour and provisions
during 17th end 18th centuries and the present period, as well as
between the time of the last war and the same period, but we were an.
able te anderstaed the conclusions to which that investigation led. He
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