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RTING INTELLIGENCE.
TA T TE R SA LL' S. YESTERDAY.
The subscription-room was thronged to excess until a late
hour, but business, apart from the check it received from
the Old England affair, of which we give a separate notice
underneath, progressed languidly, and at such contradictory
prices, that it was with no small difficulty we ascertained the
actual state of the betting. We have reason, however, to be-
lieve that the subjoined quotations correctly represent the posi-
tion of the various favourites at the close, and from these it will
be gathered that, of the first four, The Libel alone underwent
any material change ; his partisans were numerous, and the
laors getting shy as the desire to "get on" became more
evident ; he ultimately took a decided call of Alarm,
and finishing almost, if not absolutely, as good d
favourite as Weatherbit. The last mentioned and the crack
were backed in various quarters, but left off with layers of the
quoted odds. Pantasa and Pam, and Doleful, were severally
backed at prices averaging those returned, nor was Old Eng.
land by any means so mach out of favour as the bet of 2,500
to 100, laid to Mr. Gully, would seem to indicate-22 to 1
was taken two or three times, and would have been taken again
at the break up. Fuzbcs was very much fancied, and from the
outsiders we may select Annandale as having been moat gene-
rally in favour; his stable companion, Mentor, on the strength
of a report that he was coughing, receded several points. A
few bets were laid on the Oaks and Craven Stakes, but without
eliciting any feature worthy of especial notice. The latest
prices were as follow :

CRAVES STAKES-(MS DAY).
6 to 4 en 2 agst the field
5 to 2 agst Mr. Dawson's Crim Con
5 to 2 agst Lord Chesterfield's Knight of the Whistle
5 to 1 agst Lord Stradboke's Eyenus
DERBY.
4 to 1 agst J. Day's lot—taken
12 to 1 agst Forth's lot—taken
5 to 2 agst Lord Stradbroke's Idas
6 to 1 agst Mr. Gully's Weatherbit
7 to 1 agst Mr. A. W. Hill's The Libel—taken
7 to 1 agst Mr. Greville's Alarm—taken
17 to 1 agst Mr. Mostyn's Pantasa
20 to 1 agst Lord Chesterfield's Pam—taken
20 to 1 agst Mr. Gratwicke's Doleful—taken
22 to 1 agst Mr. Gully's Old England—taken
25 to 1 agst Mr. Ford's Fuzbos--take 30 to 1
28 to 1 agst Colonel Anson's Kedger—taken
33 to 1 agst Mr. Gratwicke's Merry Monarch
40 to 1 agst Mr. Wreford's Worthless
40 to 1 agst Mr. Waller's Columbus--taken
40 to 1 agst Mr. A. Johnstone's Annandale
50 to 1 agst Mr. St. Paul's Mentor
50 to 1 agst Duke of Richmond's Laird o' Cockpen
50 to 1 agst Col. Cradock's Jinglepot
1000 to 15 agst Lord Glasgow's Miss Whip colt—taken
1000 to 15 agst Lord Exeter's Wood Pigeon—taken
1000 to 15 agst Col. Peel's Cobweb colt—taken
3uoo to 20 agst Mr. Theobald's Desperation.
OAKS.
5 to 1 agst Lord Chesterfield's Lady Wildair—taken
5 to 1 agst Mr. Worthington's Lancashire Witch—t
10 to 1 agst Mr. Gully's Maid of Orleans—taken
11 to 1 agst Mr. Rogers's Glee
16 to 1 agst Duke of Richmond's Refraction—taken
20 to 1 agst Lord Eglinton's Plaudit—taken
20 to 1 agst Mr. Armstrong's Venus—taken
40 to 1 agst Mr. Osbaldeston's The Fickle Wild Rose-1
SALE OF HUNTERS AT TATTERSALL'S YES-
TERDAY.
THE PROPERTY OF THE EARL OF CHESTERFIELD.
guineas.
......................... 145

Brown George
Roger Wildrake ........... .....
The Grand b1a5ter.................. ....
The Poet .........................................
King of the Peak ................
...
Archer 250
Banker
200
Some others were bought in. 47

47
... ............. 320

THE PROPERTY OF SIR W. M. STANLEY.
guineas.

Miss Lutterworth ......... ... ....
Maid of Wirral
Harborough
Nestor ..
The Doctor
Birkenhead
Irishman
•••
The Iron Duke
Baronet
Hooton
Kate Kearney
Young Tarragon..

31
45
295
46

180
135
80

180
55
32

SINGULAR EXPOSURE—ALLEGED FOUL PLAY
ON THE TURF.
On Saturday last some strong remarks were made at Tatter-
sall's by Mr. Gully, the owner cf Old England, a horse about
to run for the Derby, respecting the conduct of one gentleman
who bad been betting largely against him, at odds beyond the
market price, which ended in Mr. Gully giving notice to the
party in question, that he should call upon him to stake to the
amount of the bets which had been laid, and which had been
laid on Mr. Gully's account. To this the party challenged
said he had no objection, however uncourteous he might think
the demand. The amount referred to was said to exceed
20,0001., and the inference drawn from the remarks made
was, that some unfair play had been resorted to, with respect
to the horse, or this pertinacity in betting against him would
not have been so remarkable. Yesterday the matter was
brought forward in a more serious shape, and at a time when
the room was exceedingly crowded. Mr. Gully, elevating him-
self on a chair, called the attention of the persons present while
he performed, as he said, a very disagreeable duty to himself
and the public, who had, as well as himself, invested large sums
on Old England. It had struck him as extraordinary that when
the current price of Old England was 20 to 1 in that room, a
Mr. Hargreaves was betting largely against the horse at 30 and
25 to 1, and had on Friday or Saturday laid 1,2001. to 400/.
against him. This had naturally created suspicion
in his mind, following, as it did, the operations
by the same party and his friends to an enormous
extent. He was told that the cause assigned for the sup-
posed prejudice was that the horse would not start—that he
had bad legs—had been fired—and, in fact, that he had not the
slightest chance of winning. As he knew these assertions were
without foundation, he naturally looked for some other; cause,
and the more especially when he had heard it whispered that
those bets had been made for young John Day, than who, he
believed, a more honourable or upright young man did not
breathe, a eharacter which was equally due to his father. Seeing
that his horse was thus betted against as if he were dead, he
determined at once to go to Danebury on Saturday night, if
possible, to ascertain the cause. On arriving there
he saw both John Days, senior and junior, who professed
their utter ignorance of the cause of such a state of things ;
but, from private information which he (Mr. G. ) had received,
he had no doubt of the delinyyptz aid at once not only corn-
Inunicated bi; suspipioos to father and son, but prOdmed such
...
vlence as left no dopbt oP the subject, Thor,,,,_
.
son to whom tie alluded wag William Day, a we-.
who, with groat re1n..4..- ...ger son of Mr. John Day,
—ince' at last confessed that he had been
~,,reu with ; that he had been told by Mr. Blootisworth
and Mr. Stebbings that, after the present Derby, his father Wal
to retire, and his brother John was to take his place, while he,
William, would be turned off. To this it was added, that

Mr. Hargreaves admitted that he had communicated to an-
other betting man, that he had laid the odds against John
Day's lot to 400/. for a gentleman whom he then believed lived
at Danebury, and this he did not feel called upon to make a
secret. He repeated, however, that he had no communica-
tion with Mr. Bloodsworth or Mr. Stebbings, or with any
member of Mr. Day's family, and felt not a little indignant at
being attacked in the manner he had been by Mr. Gully; he
had always acted fairly and " above board," and denied that
any ground existed for connecting him with Mr. Bloodsworth
and Mr. Stebbing. He betted against the horse from a con.
viction of his unworthiness, and would not take a thousand
sovereigns to two on the horse and stand it.
Mr. Stebbing then rose, and complained of the manner in
which he had been thus dragged forward. It had been said
that William Day had laid him 35,000/. to 1,0001. against Old
England. This was totally false—he had not spoken to William
Day for twelve months. The truth was that Mr. Bloodsworth,
who he knew was on particularly intimate terms with John
Day's family, had come to him, and told him that Old England
was a bad horse, and upon his authority he had laid against
him. He believed that Mr. Day, sen., was under obligations
to Mr. Bloodsworth, and that therefore he was not likely to be
deceived; and whether he laid against the horse for a large
or a small sum, he did not see why he should be attacked.
Mr. Gully said, he believed it was true he had taken 35,000/.
to 1,000/. of William Day, and it was not difficult to draw an
inference from such a fact.

Mr. Stebbing repeated that all he knew was through Mr.
Bloodsworth, and he could only add, he was ready to cover
any bets he had laid ; but he thought the proper mode to pro-
ceed in this case would have been to bring him before the
Stewards if he had done wrong.
Mr. Gully—Who sent the express to Danebury ?
Mr. Stebbing—l did not—nor do I know anything
about it.

Here the matter dropped.
Mr. Hargreaves then said he was ready to lay 2,500 to 100
agst Old England and give a good man.
Mr. Gully—l'll take it, and the bet was immediately booked
to Mr. Haggerty of Manchester.
We understand the subject is hereafter to be brought before
the Stewards in a formai shape, but at present the charge is
confined to the statement of William Day who has been dis-
charged from his father's stables—it is just that all conclusive
opinions should be reserved till Mr. Bloodsworth has the
opportunity of being heard.

( PROM OCR CORRESPONDENT.)
The entries for the various stakes at Epsom are not so nu-
merous as might have been (anticipated. The Craven, on
Tuesday, will be a most interesting race, the representatives
of all the great stables, with the exception of John Day'o,
being engaged in it ; and upon its result the Derby betting
may be materially affected. Should the favourites' trial-
horse, Evenus, be defeated he will certainly recede in the
market. The only two that appear to have any cha":;3 with
him are Pagan and the Knight of the Whist,-e,
certainly started to get his length rn" who will be
0— linglepot and Pam. I
conceive, however, Elven"! ;,as speed enough about him to
win this race witout much difficulty.
To thtWoodcoto there are 14 subscribers, and the following
Colts are on the spot :—Lord G. Bentinck's Cherokee, Mr.
Herbert's f by Elis, Mr. W. Scott's Malt, Lord Chesterfield's
Subscription, Mr. Walker's Guzman, Mr. John Day's the
Hero, Mr. Dunkald's St. George, and Mr. Boyce's Tom
Sare. Of this lot I expect to see Cherokee first and Lord
Harry second.
I now come to the Derby, for which there will be more
starters than I previously fancied, many horses having been
sent whose chance I consider utterly hopeless. Ides this
afternoon Vas not so firm in his position as he previously
had been, and there was a great disposition among the cog •
noscenti of the ring to bet against him. Although he is a
magnificent horse, I consider him more adapted for the flat at
Newmarket than a course like Epsom, and I fancy
that the hill which has so often destroyed the chai;ce of the
pride of Newmarket, will prevent Lord Stradbroke from en-
joying the enviable honour of possessing the winner of the
Derby for 1845. In spite of Weatherbit's position in the
market, Old England is fast coming, and if he does not pass
him in the betting, I have no doubt he will do so in the race•
The most dangerous horse to be against, in my opinion, is The
Libel. From the manner this horse won at Chester, the per;
formances of Sweetmeat at Bath and Shrewsbury, and the
running of Salepian with Intrepid at Shiffnall, Ido not con-
sider there is any horse in the race with more pretensions to
be considered the winner. Air. Mostyn's Pantasa I expect to
see in a forward position. His Cheshire friends still stick to him.
Alarm owes his place in the market entirely to his single
race last year at Stockbridge, and to his having beaten Queen
Mab in a trial at Newmarket. Although Nat will be on his
back, I do not consider his opponents need be under any ap-
prehensions about him.

Mr. Gratwicke, the owner of Doleful, won the Derby in
1829, with Frederick, and from the manner in which his lot
are backed, one would be really inclined to think that his
fortune, hitherto so doleful (seeing that for a period of
fifteen years he never won a race), was about to take a turn,
I am afraid, however, the Derby is beyond his reach.
Jinglepot, as I predicted last week, is rising gradually. I
am convinced this horse will be found very bandy at the
finish. The Goodwood Stakes has been too powerful this
season to be passed over without notice. I am
afraid its only representative will be the Laird o' Cock-
pen, who comes from a mare not calculated to produce a
Derby winner, as she never could run beyond three quarters
of a mile. Pam, hedger, and Newsmonger's chance I fancy
quite out. Of Columbus I know nothing. Clear-the-way
must indeed have the way cleared for him to win. Fuzbos
has done nothing in public to warrant his being looked upon
favourably. The same remark will apply to Mentor, An-
nandale, and Cabin Boy, although it is asserted that the latter
could have beaten St. Lawrence at Bath, which I do not
heave. Salopian will only be started to make running for
the Libel. Idas has made apparent the capabilities of Wood
Pigeon ; and Young Eclipse's visit to Goodwood has done
him more harm than good. In conclusion, after a careful
c•nsideration of the merits of the different nags, I fancy we
shall see the Libel first at the winning post, with Old Eng-
land second, and the Crack or Jinglepot third.
The other races on that day call for ne observation.
On Thursday the great feature of attraction will be the
Surrey Cup, for which I prefer most Moustache and Pug.
The Christina filly, if she can be kept straight, must run
forward.

On Friday, for the Oaks, I expect to see Lady Wildair,
Lancashire Witch, Hope, Refraction, Miss Elis, Rose of
Cashmere, Heather Bell, Maid of Orleans, Plaudit, Agis,
Stamp, The Wreck, Glee, Lmlia, Event, Miss Sarah, Fickle
Wild Rose, Sir Charles Monck's filly, Marian Ramsey, and
Giantess.

Lady Wildair made her debut at Stockbridge, where she
ran third to Alarm. At the Newmarket July Meeting she
won the Chesterfield Stakes, beating six others. At Brigh-
ton she won a sweepstakes, beating the Laird o' Cockpen and
two others. At Doncaster .she beat Sister to Pathfinder
easily, and at the Newmarket Craven Meeting, over the
D. M., she won a 50 sous. sweepstakes, beating three others.
She is trained by John Scott, will be ridden by Nat, and if
she can beat Lancashire Witch will, I think, be first in the
race.

the way in which she won at
The Lancashire Witch has never been dperfienacteetoifylivet,a;:d.B
Stakes at York, and the Champagne at Doncaster.lutist na-
turally impart great confidence to her achnters, of which
class lam one. She is a fine slashing mare, with a tre-
mendous stride, and will be ridden Templeman.
Mr. Bennett's Hope was beaten by Lancashire Witch at
Doncaster, and will. T.. Nl*, be beaten again by her in this
race. Her winning the Wirral Stakes at Chester showed
certainly an Improvement in her favour, but I cannot think
she will be good enough to be enrolled as an Oaks winner.
The Maid of Orleans is strongly supported on the strength
of her two-year-old running, and I am told her owner is
sanguine of winning with her. She has started
four times, and won on each occasion without difficulty.
With this mare and the two I have first mentioned I con-
ceive the Oaks rest. Refraction's chance, previous to her
running at Newmarket for the Coffee-room Stakes, was by no
means a bad one ; now, I should imagine it to be gone.
Heather Bell's pretensions were settled by Picnic at the same
meeting. Miss Elis must be vastly improved since she ran
last to beat the Maid of Orleans, anti will, I fancy, turn Out
inferior to the Rose of Cashmere, at rres"4,, the most for-
midable of Rent's
01 the In.".'.' of the others I am un-
-4
be eqlla
to o- int 4
414 elall'"" ts ,
as I have before stated, the race to
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Orleans, wi tha ihdta pr eLfae rneenacseh ifroer
TELEQRAP.II.
Loudon, May 25. ItVhietcwrh,itcahn.d the Maid of

A PROPHECY FOR 1845.
'Tis the morn not dim or dark,
Tho' absent is the blythe skylark;
The rising of the unclouded sun
Proclaims "The Day's" indeed begun ;
Which day, se full of fun and folly,
.lay end in grief moat melancholy.
But at Epsom. thre's no sadness,
Every eye full of gladness.
Pandora's box, with all its curses,
Still has Hope to fill the purses
Of some who have been bad book-making,
Standing shivering now, and shaking.
Listen to the din and pother
Of each brother doing brother;
'Till at once the move is made
From the coffee-house old shade,
To the Downs—where the Great go,
Makes and mars, brings joy and woe.
Whose prophetic mirror now
Can the Derby winner show ?
Idas, classic rears his crest,
Said to be the very best
Of his year, and Stradbroke's stud,
Full of muscle, bone and blood.
What's to beat him? is the cry—
Weatherbit—is the reply;
Hookey Walker, all-my-eye.
Tho' Junior John (a) is on the crack,
Old England still some fools will hack,
Others say Worthless is the pot
Of all the fearful Danebury lot.
Each hath his fancy; what's the harm.
But see what's coming, 'tis Alarm,
The worthy scP of a stout sire,(b)
Nor likely "ai the hill to tire,
HO! make some Big'un much perspire,
And many will from him retire;
And Libel now begins to show,
As Ironmaster is "no go."
The latter might a "tale unfold,"
And change his metal into gold;
But fate ordains he must not shine
In character at Crolsus' shrine,
"Tis pity; tity 'tis, 'tis true,
That Libel nowt the Mork
Though Wadluw s (c) friends will Pail Anil rue,
And Pantasa is look'd upon,
By some as if the race he'd won ;
The hill he'll climb, the distance stay,
But he's no Queen of Trumps, 1 say.
What next ? The now neglected lot
Are seen approaching of John Scot;
What chance have they to fill the till,
Without our friend, the "Boisterous Bill?" (d)
Who, notwithstanding all his fun,
So often hag the needful done.
It stem that Ledger shuns the field,
And Cobweb's son doth likewise yield ;
But Pam and Newsmonger will slicvr,
And one of them run forward too,
But which of them I've yet to know.
Who challenges the mighty north ?
The Sage of Mitchell-grove, " The Forth." (e)
But old in years like Nestor, he
Is full of strength and subtlety ;
Though led aWay by Hero's mate, (f)
He showed with Foigh 'twas no mistake.
Though Doleful be a dismal name,
Pre still may climb the steps of fame,
And then to cheer his heart, od rot,
A Merry Monarch he has got.
Beware of Lucifer (g), the shrewd,
Who did " our James" CO at great Goodwood;
The De'il, he is a dangerous foe,
And, looking out, trust ward the blow.
Winchester tob, it's said, will start,
To make the running very smart.
MEtyriooth, unlike Sir Robert's Bill,
Defeated is by the long hill.
Eclipse, Columbus, and the rest,
Are in the ruck, where bad the best.
The Cabin Boy is but so-so;
Ah, disappointed is the Roe, (h)
And there's but few more nags will ge;
Now,see they're saddled for the start,
With many a palpitating heart
Silently making its remark.
Off 1 Winchester away is steering,
Making running, nothing fearing;
Idas with him, stout and handy.
In as good a place as can be,
With the Whip colt and the Libel,
Pam and Newsmonger not idle;
Next Alarm, but with this tit
Behold the waiting Weatherbit.
Doleful and Titmouse now appear,
The first emerging from the rear,
Reaches the pet of Danebury's girth,
And soon is heard loud cries of Forth--
Pantasa, Jinglepot, The Laird
Are witnessed labouring very hard.
And now " The Corner's" tuned, and hear
The shout of joy—of doubt—of fear
As the first lot the distance near.
Idas beats all his former foes,
And like a valiant victor goes;
His backers now have nought to fear,
Except the winner once last year,
And the dark nag Young John doth steer;
For see Alarm is coming fast,
And Weatherbit in foaming haste,
They close—they struggle. What has won t'
The game Alarm, stout Venison's son.
Ides, his backers' hopes to wreck,
Is beaten by John Day a neck.
Pantasa—next with Scott and Libel—
Prove some predictions were but futile.
Bicester, May 24, 1845.

ESAL7

_
(a) Young John Day.
(b) Venison.
(e) The trainer of Ironntatier and The Libel.
(d) The celebrated jockey, brother to John Scott.
(e) Old Mr. Fort/to/410 trained Leander and Foigh.a.riallagh for
the Derby last year.
(f) Leander, who was a four years old.
(g) 1.40;.1er stole a march of Jem Robinsow on Rockingham at
Goodymod.
ta) The trainer of Cabin Boy.

St. -EWSBURY RACES.—TwunsDAY WONCIATDED).
The Herbert Stakes of 10 soya. each,
h ft, with 20 added ;
the second to save his stake. Heats, P,:oout about half a
Mile. (4 Subs.)
Mr Skerratt's Tottenham, 3 yrs ......... Mr. Dawson's Bedale, 3 yrs ~. ... ..... 1 1
....... .. ... 2 2
Mr. Flintoff's The Elbe, 3 yrs ......... ..
......... ....
...
........... : ..
3 3
The Acton Burnell Park Stakes of g .... ..... each, with 25
added. Heats, one mile and a quarter. (6 Subs.)
Mr. Collett's Coranna, 6 yrs. ~.,•. G. Whitehonse 1 1
Mr. E. Peel's General Nott, 3 yr. 2 dr
Mr. Hill's Aurungzebe, 5 yrs ..„ 3dr
FRIDAY.
The Innkeepers' Hand;c.a of 15 soy& each, 10 ft, and 5 onl
if declared, with 50 added, the second to receive 101. About a mile and three quarters. (12 Subs.)
Mr. A. W. Hill's Sweetmeat, 3 yra ...(Arthur) 1
Mr. Meiklam's Inheritress,s yrs..., 2
Mr. Mostyn's Master Stepney, a yrs
The following also ran :---Mr. Flintoft's The Rhine, 5 yrs,
and Mr. J. B. Mino':',ls Rodney, 3 yrs.
The Ilawlistigui;up of 100 soya. b subs. of 10 sous. each, h ft.
About a mile and a half. (16 Subs.)
..
Mr. A. W. Hill's Salopian,
trs
co's Irnrahnenriat,re6s3s;ss yrs ...... .... ...(Templema
... ).
1111
(Darling) 0 1 I
0 2 2
Roebuck, 3 l'r.
I 0 4
Lord Warwick's .
vrs
...
• ' Princess Olga, .5 . ..
s:lT.r:hee°Melilketl Borough Members'
2 0
Mr. Palmer's Betsyßi d.
yrs
0 0 dr
Pl3atersof 501. Meats, twice round.
3,Mirr.
..
\(, a,
crke,lersss's Auru_ng_rze_,bse,rs
Mr. Bales's The Sailor, 4
0 0 drMr. Morgan's Shrimp, aged

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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF LORDS, May 26.
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat upon the Woolsack
at Five o'clock.
Lord REDESDALE presented several petitions against the
Maynooth grant.
Petitions against the grant were also presented by the Earl
of Bandon, Lord Kenyon, the Bishop of London, the Bishop of
Lichfield and Coventry, the
.Bishop of Gloucester, and the
Bishop of Winchester.
Lord CAMPBELL presented a petition against the Cha-
ritable Trusts Bill.
REGISTRATION OF DEEDS BILL.
The NobLE LORD then laid on the table a Bill for the regis-
tration of all deeds and instruments respecting real property in
England and Wales. This Bill was founded on the report of the
Real Property Commissioners, and was framed upon
the plan which had been proposed by Mr. Duval, one of the
ablest real property'lawyers that had ever adorned the profession.
—(" Hear, hear," from Lord Brougham.) That plan had been
approved of by the Real Property Commission, over which
he ( Lord Campbell) had had the honour of presiding. It
had been considered for two sessions by the House of Commons,
and had been favourably received in that House. The subject
had not been mooted for twelve years, and he hoped that the
prejudices which had been entertained against it had died away.
The Bill was then laid on the table.
RAILWAY CONIPENSATION COMMITTEE.
The Earl of FITZWILLIA NI moved that the evidence
taken before the Railway Compensation Committee should be
printed for the use of their Lordships only.—Agreed to.
MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS.
Messengers from the Commons brought up the Nottingham
Waterworks Bill, and several other private Bills.
MAYNOOTH.
Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from Stockport,
in favour of the grant to Maynooth.
Mr. O'DRISCOLL.
The NOBLE and LEARNED LORD then said he wished to
draw the attention of his Noble and Learned Friend on the
Woolsack, to a statement which he had seen in a Paris
paper, quoted from an English paper, relative to the conduct
of Mr. O'Driscoll, an Irish magistrate, who had been twice
removed from the Bench, and twice reinstated ; and if the
statement he had read were true, he felt bound to say, that
he had never heard of an instance in which the administra-
tion of justice had been brought into more flagrant contempt,
than it had been by the outrageous conduct of this individual.
Now it was possible that that statement might be true,
although it had appeared in a newspaper—( A laugh )—and he
hoped his Noble and Learned Friend would answer his ques-
tion, which was, whether or not Mr. O'Driscoll was still re-
tained in the commission of the peace. It appeared that
O'Driscoll was the presiding magistrate at the Petty
Sessions, at Skibbereen, at the time the transaction to which
he alluded had taken place. (The Noble Lord then read the
account which appeared in The Suit about a week since, of
the conduct of Mr. O'Driscoll, from which it appeared
that Mr. O'Driscoll, or one of his brother magistrates,
refusing to take certain informations, exclaimed, " By God, I
do not understand these popularity-hunting magistrates," and
that on Mr. Galway, the other magistrate, attempting to
speak, Mr. O'Driscoll called out, " Sit down, Sir, and hold
your tongue. You had better sit down, or I will meet you
elsewhere.") So that here they had a magistrate sworn to
keep the Queen's peace, and presiding over his brother magis-
trates, threatening to challenge one of them to break the
peace, and making this challenge on the bench of justice itself.
Now, if this were true, it exceeded in indecency all that he had
-ever heard of as connected with the administration of justice.
'The Noble Lord then went on to read the report. On one of
the magistrates remonsn atine', Mr. O'Driscoll said, " I tell
you, man, I did not mean him at all ;" whereupon Mr.
Fleming, another magistrate, said that if Mr. O'Driscoll did
not give them an assurance that the affair should go no further,
he should feel it his duty to bind him over to keep the peace.
Now this attempt of one magistrate to challenge another on
the bench, was one of the grossest breaches of the peace that
could be committed. This took place the other day at
Skibbereen.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said he had nothing to do
es'eth the appointment of magistrates in Ireland. He knew that
the conduct of Mr. O'Driscoll had been made the subject of
discussion last session, and that their Lordships seemed satisfied
with his reappointment.—( Hear.) He had never heard any-
thing of the transaction to which his Noble and Learned Friend
had alluded, and had nothing to do with the appointment or
removal of Irish magistrates ; but he would, if his Noble and
Learned Friend wished it, write for some explanation on that
subject to the Lerd Chancellor of Ireland.
Lord BROUGHAM said he did not mean to hold his Noble
and Learned Friend responsible. He hoped he would not be
satisfied with a mere answer, but would fully investigate the
whole of the circumstances of the case.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said he should communicate
with the Lord Chancellor of Ireland, and direct his attention
to the matter in question.
The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL said, Mr. O'Driscoll being
a magistrate in his part of the country, and knowing him very
well, he wished to know whether the matter, to which the
Noble Lord had called the attention of the House, was of re-
;sent occurrence ?—( Hear, hear.)
Lord BROUGHAM said it was.
The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL said it was rather remark-
able that it should have been alluded to in the French, and not
in the English newspaper.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said he had seen it in
more than one Irish newspaper.
The Earl of NOUN TCASHEL said he had no doubt that,
if it were inquired into, Mr. O'Driscoll would not be found the
guilty individual he was said to be. Mr. O'Driscoll was a
Roman Catholic and a Conservative, and this was a crime not
to be forgiver: in Ireland ; but a man who had the misfortune
to be a Conservative was condemned to all eternity. —( Laughter. )
The Roman Catholics bore a great dislike to Mr. O'Driscoll
for these reasons, and were determined to renew the warfare
which they had evinced towards him on a former occasion. He
again expressed his belief that the statement of the Noble Lord
was incorrect.
Earl FORTESCUE said, as the person who had
brought forward this subject last session, he was desirous of
saying a few words on the subject before the House. On that
occasion he heard no defence of Mr. O'Driscoll in that House,
and then the charges brought against him were not made be-
cause they appeared in a newspaper ; but after he had been
convicted by a court of session, he now felt it his duty to say
what he had said on the occasion to which he alluded—that the
conduct of Mr. O'Driscoll was most unbecoming in any one
holding the station of a magistrate and of a gentleman. He
had seen the statement referred to by the Noble Lord in
both Irish and English newspapers. The reason why he
was restored to the commission of the peace was, that it was
expected to conduce to his amendment—( Hear, hear)—that
he would have been prevented from repeating the conduct
which he was stated to have been guilty of before. He be-
lieved he should be borne out in this statement. Mr. O'Driscoll
had, however, a serious relapse.— (Laughter.) He hoped that
if, after inquiry, the statements of the Noble Lord were found
to be true, that he would not be suffered to remain any longer
in the commission, that he might not again be suffered to fall
into a relapse.
Lord WHARNCLIFFE said that was the first time he had
heard of the subject, and he did not hesitate to say that more
improper conduct on the bench could riot be pursued by a
magistrate. Persons on the bench should conduct themselves
in a decent manner, and like gentlemen, recollecting that they
were conservators of the peace. It was unnecessary for him
to say much up nt the subject. He was, however, glad to see
the matter was in a proper course.
MAYNOOTH.
The LORD CHANCELLOR presented a petition from
magistrates, bankers, and members of various professions in
Belfast, in favour of the grant to Maynooth. The petition was
signed by about 400 persons, Protestants of different denomina-
tions, three of them being deputy representatives in the
council, twenty magistrates, nine bankers, and other persons
of great respectability.
The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL presented two petitions
against the grant—one was from the General Assembly of
Presbyterians in England, and the other faom the county of
Derry.
Lord MONTEAGLE presented a petition from a congrega-
tion of Protestant Dissenters at Cambridge against the grant
to Maynooth, and another from the same place in favour of it.
The Bishop of CASHEL presented a petition, signed by
270 ministers of the Established Church of England and Ire-
land. He wns only a stranger in their Lordships' House, and
be was not aware, therefore, whether he was quite at liberty
to make any remarks on the presentation of a petition, but, if
permitted, he did wish to say a few words. Their Lord-
ships were aware that in this city, at a certain season of the
year, several religious societies assembled to hold their anni-
versary meetings. Such was also the case in Ireland; and
during one of these assemblages this petition was signed in the
course of two days by these 270 clergymen. Now, in advo-
cating the cause which these gentlemen wished to promote, he
was free to confess that the Irish Church, at the close of the
last century, had been in as low a state as pos-
sible, and that it had been made simply a political engine to
serve the purposes of the Ministry for the time being.
No institution could ever flourish under such treatment as that
which the Irish Church received. If a coach proprietor had a
horse that was restive and vicious, and that horse was put in a
coach which it was not used to, no one would be surprised if the
coach was sometimes upset. The present Government had
disposed of their Church patronage in Ireland in a fair and
honourable manner, and it must be evident, he thought, to all
parties, that they acted upon the jut and sound principle of
preferring those who were humane and good. Dr. Long, a
very eminent prelate of the Roman Catholic Church, gave it
as his opinion, that the clergy of the Irish Protestant Church
uniformly showed the greatest kindness to all around them. He
could nbt conceive a sight more melancholy, or an anomaly
more egregious, than a church established for the teaching of
one set of doctrines, which they considered the only right and
pure, being engaged in the propagation of tenets which, on the
other hand, they regarded as erroneous, superstitious, and ido-
latrous.—( Hear. )
The Marquis of NORMANBY, concurring in every word
which had fallen from the Right Rev. Prelate, wished to put
one question respecting the remarks which he had made on
presenting the petition. It was, whether very distinguished
clergymen of his own diocese had not refused to sign the peti-
tion, and expressed their entire dissent from the purport of
the prayer ? Lest the Right Rev. Prelate should forget the
circumstance to which he alluded, lie would name the clergy-
men who had entered their protest against the language of the
document—they were the Rev. Messrs. Woodward, Darby,
Palliser, and Hofferman.
The Bishop of CASHEL denied that any clergyman
of his diocese had refused to sign the petition,
and fur the simple reason that they had never been asked.
The petition had merely lain for signature in Dublin during
the late Easter meetings in that city, and been voluntarily
drawn up and supported by 270 clergymen as he before stated.
Ile had hearth that an address, signed by 9 or 10 of the 160 cler-
gymen of his diocese was intended to be presented to him with an
address in favour of the grant. He could only say that as yet
Ise had received nothing of the kind, and even of its existence
he merely knew by report.
Earl FITZWILLAM protested against the assertion
of the Right Rev. Prelate, that the clergy in his diocese
were in faeeur of the petition, and that these who did not par-
take of that unanimity were great dereliction of
duty, because they ought
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enjoy the endowments
of Protestantism and
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something which the Right Rev.
Prelate did not "'exactly express. No one could regret more
than himself the differences that existed between
of England and the Church of Rome. Thethe Church
RightßevPre-
late drew a contrast between the mode of distributing Church
patronage at the present moment with what it hadformerly
been, and said that for a long period every a
withppoi.ntrnent in
Ireland—lay as well as clerical—had been made
to English, and a neglect of Irish interests, He did not agree
deference
with that, nor that the Protestant religion in Ireland hailbad-
warmed more rapidly at the present time than during the days
of Usher, Jeremy Taylor, King, and others.
The matter then dropped.
The Bishop of LLANDAFF presented a petition from his
diocese against the grant to Maynooth, which the petitioners
considered in direct opposition to the constitution of the coun-
try. He would merely say, that he heartily concurred in the
sentiments contained in the petition.
The Marquis of BREADALBANE presented 746 petitions
to the same effect from Wesleyan Congregations in Great
Britain and Ireland, signed by 70,534 individuals. ire said
the body from whom the petitions emanated had expended up-
wards of 100,0001. in promoting the extension of Christianity
in all parts of the world. The chief of these petitions was
agreed to at a meeting of the Wesleyan body, in their Centenary
Hall, on Friday, March 25th last, and as it woul occupy
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whole of the petitions, he would, therefore, only state the
grounds on which the petitioners based their objection to the
grant. They stated that, in their opinion, the professors of the
Romish Church since Pope Pius IV., promulgated the prin-
ciples of the Council over which he presided, which were, as
stated in the terms of her Majesty's oath, superstitious and
idolatrous. That they were intolerant and persecuting, and
dangerous wherever they obtained the ascendancy. Secondly,
that the meeting regarded all the grant for the promotion
of such a religion as that of Rome, only as likely to
increase that which was in itself bad, and calculated
to bring down the displeasure of Almighty God on this country.
Thirdly, that, although the meeting was anxious to bear its
testimony to the wisdom and necessity for toleration of all
religions which had not any principle of evil hostile to the
truth, and though they were particularly anxious that this tole-
ration should be extended to their Roman Catholic fellow-
subjects, yet there was nothing in this desire for toleration
which could call upon them for the support of this grant to the
College of Maynooth. Fourthly, that the annual grant to
Maynooth, and consequent support of the principles taught
there, had been looked upon with deep regret by all sects of
Christians in this country. Fifthly, that they could not but
view this increase of the grant to Maynooth only as a permanent
endowment of the Romish Church in this country. With this
statement he should conclude his observations, except with the
single remark that, whenever tho time should come for the
people to express their opinions, whether it were early or far
off, they would, unquestionably, be found opposed to this grant.
The Earl of WINCHILSE A presented a hundred petitions
against the proposed grant to Maynooth. As it had been cur-
rently reported that the clergy of the country were not opposed
to this grant, he had to state that ninety-five of these petitions
out of the hundred were from clergymen of the Established
Church. One of these was signed by 179 clergymen in the
archdeaconry of Suffolk, and another by 137 clergymen in the
archdeaconry of Northampton. In addition to this, he would
say that the Dissenters of every denomination in this country,
with the exception of one—that was the Presbyterian body of
Dissenters, who professed Unitarian and Socinian doctrines--
with the exception of these, he believed the Dissenters, to a
man, were opposed to it. With these observations, he would
read the:titles of the petitions, which, it appeared by the list,
came from all -,arts of the country