Star.
London, England, 1808-05-05 00:00:00

MISCELLANEOUS.

IFKANCIS BURDETT thought it impossible
the ouse, after what had passed on the subject,
,e---toll hesitate before it granted salaries or pensions to
Is in the situation of the Barons of Exchequer in
Woe, who, it appeared, were not men who had
~.„a great professional practice and emolument to
judges, but were, generally speaking, men to
it would, from their former habits of life, be
object, on account even of the emolument, to be
„geed to such an office. But still, he could not
` with the doctrines on this subject, laid down on
2asiee of the House on which. he sat. He could
tore that it was expedient that Judges should be
:el to retire on their salaries, or rather with pen-
aft a certain number of years service. Why
oil" judge sufficiently recompeneed for the dis-
?
charge of els ju If he was notdicialfunctions at the
wished to know time he per-
i.,r2ree then
eey that was not the case, and why adequate provi-
ea ainst the ordinary chances of declining years
rhea were not made in their annual salary ? He
oedeasily see how, from the adoption of a contrary
teem abuses were allowed to creep in. It at the
rse, good ground for granting a pension of this
deuced to occur, that would, on every future
:eve% be esteemed sufficieet, even where there was
eeepriety whatever in the grant. He often heard
ellemen cm the Ministerial- Side of the House call
e these on the side on which he sat for parliamen-
...Trends, for any proposition submitted by them.
Ne id not see that there was any such ground for the
Fred measure, and he should not do his duty if
e did not oppose it. He protested against the idea
illerality, when such liberality was to be shown by
puts out of other people's pockets.
Mr. WHITBREAD explained.
Tae CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
rebated chiefly the arguments of the Honourable
henet who had just sat down. He hoped no per-
ms would agree with him, that those who were inca-
pacitated in the public service, should be deserted in
teir old age. He said, the fewness of causes which
l..rd been urged was no reason, as the Barons of the
Eulsequer had other important duties in a Ministerial
opacity; he said many more causes might be found
r east, and appealed to the Committee now sitting
n the subject of distilleries, if many revenue 'subjects
eght not in future occupy the time of the Scotch
higes [Bear!] ? He said none were fitter for the
Bosch than the Scotch Sheriffs, who required much
legal knowledge.
-11 r. LAWRENCE opposed the measure. Mini-
sters bad chareed their opponents with only one act
of cceruptice, by pensioning cue solitary Judge ; but
Lee a whop Bench was to be pensioned off at once.
This was corruption with a witness l—(el laugh.)
After a few words from Mr. MARRIOTT, the
House divided—For the Speaker's leaving the Chair,
68—Against it, 25.
On our reeidmission into the gallery, we found
tie House in a Committee, and Mr. BANKES
on
his legs. He declared as a monstrous .fact, that, in
to frugal reign of his present Majesty, the Scotch
?easion List alone encreased eightfold. He observed
dart the Pension List of Scotland now amou ited to
10):1301. and that at the commencement of the pre-
= reign it was only 50001. He stated, that he
aid also point out an instance of a pension being
Cron the Hereditary reserved revenues, for the
th e grantee.
Dr. LAWRENCE opposed the clause.
Mr. W. SMITH did not consider the Barons of the'
ticiequer in Scotland as entitled to retiring pensions.
!reit duties bore little analogy to those performed by
t e Judges of that Court in this country. They were
m fact rather of a financial than judicial description.
Be wished that the grant proposed should be suspen-
ded un6l due inquiry was made.
The LORD ADVOCATE was of opinion, that
thetas not the proper time for discussing the appro.!
cation of the hereditary revenue; in Scotland : that l
vas a question of an entirely distinct nature from that
sow before the House. He considered the labours t f
the Judges both in England and Scotland as being by
ao teens sufficiently rewarded.
Mr. WHITBREAD thought there was no neces-
Mty for such extraordinary haste in this business. It
looked as if some job were in contemplation. He
was for suspending the grant until the whole of the
subject was properly investigated.• As to the propriety
of granting pensions to the Judges of Scotland, there
would be no difference of opinion ; and if any of these
Gentlemen, pending the investigation, should be under
the necessity of retiring, he was persuaded there would
lit no objection in the House to address his Majesty to
pant him the usual pension. His claim could not in
the smallest degree be prejudiced by the investigation.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
rontendeJ, that the grant would not prevent the
enquiry; and delay was unnecessary. He repeated
that the Crow is had not the power of making grants
upon the Civil List for a longer oeriod than the life
of the Grantee. He trusted the douse woulcLagree
With him, that there was no reason for delaying this
usual provision for a public officer out of a public fund.
Mr. WINDH ANI could not consider the Barons
of the Exchequer as proper objects to be pensioned
from the fund now under discussion. They had
scarcely any thing of the character of Judges in them.
They were rather auditors of accounts, than expoun-
ders of the law.
Sir J. NEWPORT and Sir A. PIGOT spoke
3eainst the clause. The latter said, he could have
113 objection to the making due provision for the
Judges of any part of the empire, if it were taken
"'Ma the preperfund. It was not to the principle,
',art the application of it, he objected.
The House then divided on the clause—Ayes 80,
•i)e:- 'ti-.-Majority 49.

The Paymaster's Bill was read a second time.
After some conversation between the CHANCELLOR of the Ex-
CHEQUER, Mr. WINDHAM, Dr. LAWRENCE, and Lord Poß-
cttt rEa, the further consideration of the Curates' Stipendiary
Bill was deterred until to-morrow.

The Irish Assessed Taxes, Excise, and Stamp Duties Biris,were
brought up by Mr. FOSTER, read a first tune, and ordered to be
read a second time to-morrow.
The Malt Duty Bill, on the motion of Mr. Husxissosii was
read a first time, and °Meted to be read again on Monday.
The Militia Pay and Cloathing, Militia Subalterns, and Militia
Adjutants, and Serjeant Majors Allowance Bills, were read a first
time, and ordercd tobe read a second time to•ruorrow.

The House re,olved into a Committee of Ways and Means.
Mr. HUSiKISSON moved, that three millions be raised by Ex-
chequer Bills, for the service of the present year; also that
1.500,0001. be raised by Exchequer Bills for the same purpose.
The Committee for hearing evidence on the Petitions against
the Orders in Council, was delem :1 till to-morrow.--Adjourned.

THEE EVENING STAR.

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