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of -elelend he protested against the proposed measure as
Loorfa
great erns__ ylt to them.
laid he "(WICK agreed, in general, in the sentiments which
dee ea expressed by the Noble Lord the Member for Lon-
e ea,. Of tonne it was impossible on hearing those important
01
izldiures propued for the first time, to venture to express any
t„ ariGol
the be should abstain from offering any re-
sts' f"ntenlan until he should see the papers on which it
• °ended. When those were placed in his hands he could
e of
eu,g the proposals, and he would endeavour to dis-
ebieo'nern without any party feeling.—(Loud cheers.) His
qie— in riing was merely to ask the Right Honour-
Tt_r Baronet the course which he proposed to pursue
toile roust, a course, be great anxiety throughout the coun-
Illtieittli the Plan, and it was of great importance that the House
lt,,,,;lexPress an opini in on it without any unnecessary delay.
whichtidso be desirab'e to know as soon as possible, the means
tii3 it was proposed that the tax on income should
. be
1) fne That was a point on which the greatest anxiety must eti,vtt throughout the country. They all knew the great diffi-
al494,that existed in exactly ascertaining the amount of incomes
itteXt, great anxiety that must exist to know the moans by
tax; thereat
Right Hon. Baronet proposed to raise his income
bee'
adopted
he intended to adopt the same means whieh had
tonp,o4l°Pted when the former income tax had been irnposeele or
/3140 l'no any other. He begged to ask the Right Hon.
tu,o net what course he proposed to take to raise his proposed
erae,,tax?
mind -'r
that`JoEßT PEEL said the Noble Lord. will bear in
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the
there would be necessarily a delay in taking the votes
Noe ti" e spirit anti sugar taxes. The question upon the in-
-11, °Tad have that effect, so that he would deprecate
the "tY determination of the questions, until they considered
(hole
seo,,e of the measure, he proposed, as he
*as 1- "• Feel) hid stated before, so far as h 3 personally
tvotg,orteernod it was of no consequence when the House
isdiff°Proceed ith the discussion. He personally was perfectly
1,04 eeerit, but he should consult the interests of the Fountray,
theylogsie being a suspension of all commerceial
goonFelosequence of the expectation of that tariff,
40e as the House could come to a determine-
the Na, Much the better. He wished to know from
rocaet we Lord opposite (Lord John Russell) what ha
(Siroto do with respect to the Corn-law question, again he
tor., Peel) shoull say, he had no personal wish in asking
Vese_jule Lord that question, but he proposed to take up the
larcil,ndi on Monday next.
ittrth' ultN RUSSELL said it was not his wish-to go any
he f,itr
twtth respect to that Bill. It would be useless for him,
Sir troyose a further amendment to it. .
th • FEEL NS as so confident of his proposition. meetingt
Was of e_e aPerobation of the pttblic, and feelin as he did, tha it
dee, ele verb
utmost importance that the question should be
that 1:11114ed a; early as possible, he would, therefore, propose
that, e Corn-law should be taken up on Monday ; and
tot Friday next, the House would resume the discussion
Right, new tariff or commercial proposition which was made to-
ler ti
tete,: ," A WES said, that a great number of persons were
tba6lYeed in the Exchequer Bills fraud, and he wished to ask
144 'ltacellor of the Exchequer how it happened that that
v'hioet't,ba'l not been brought forward before. It was a question
an`due Government might have introduced at least a month
stas te of ereat public importance. He did not wish
het 14Jenteg then with respect to the measure propose. by
eery ,Jesy', Government ; but representing, as he did,a
duty srge body of persons in the timber trade, he felt it is
they to state that the Right Honourable Baronet would find
itaptr,°Position he made with respect to timber totally
kstddrable ; he was quite sure that the Right Hon. Baronet
deal
(.1 nd that the representations made to him, to the Pres-
-14,1 the Board of Trade, and to the Officers of that Board,
Latin least the effect of inducing the Right Hon. Baronet,.. at
modify very materially that part of Ais proposition re-
litee',o, timber. On the whole, he (Mr. awes) was con-
kite ipstnatthe Right Hon. Baronet's proposition would not
I:lFeettutYciria.tlisfaction.—(Loud cries of "Oh, oh.") There was
e'er .„- of direct taxation, but there was not that great
11°,elartle-"es ;_ne the tariff which he (Mr. Hawes) expected.
,!ght eft altogether untouched, but it was quite true the
"Ithe, °n• Baronet had touched a multitude of small interests
eitlewhat of a vigorous hand.
(Netts PEEL expressed an opinion that the important
Poe °us adverted tO by the Hon. Gentleman ought to be
liid4red until the House would have an opportunity of con-
Teegr,thetn more maturely.
aeeer'4IANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
Fraud's' ifnthose persons concerned
.in. the Exchequer Bills
Itareet, t" had suggested alterations in it, which were of such
day th-nee that it should necessarily be postponed to a later
eftearn he had originally anticipated.
i'LEWE'; f;'w observations from Lord J. RUSSELL and Mr.
afrr r,
bAtie b'• I• BARING protested against the proeositio_nes
takers T the Riot Hon Baronet ; but he would follow th
etterire*: of his Noble Friend (Lord John Russell) by not then
Smuch th °Pon the subject in detail; because he thought it was
oer, rem important to enter upon its consideration at that late
beetoold-nr particularly as it was a subject which, if discussed,
hlr onsidered with great caution.
(irIi.C.,SIIILDERS having asked the Right Hon. Baronet
Ittae e°) a question across the table, with reference. to the
°tit of d • dupon various articles of
(kettle_ duty proposed to be impose
Sir icep,„
slag taefs. 'Et: said, that the whole matter. was included in
nationsl-s and he thought there was no necessity to give expla-
t° Ind' •
After ivetuals.
s• 110 a few observations from Mr.
Alr.IV", and Mr HINDE,
ItOrd „ AK LEY said he could not refrain from saying a
Bar o„"r two relative to what had fallen from the Right Hon.
the There was certainly a great deal of credit due to
-g"t Ron. Baronet for the very able speech hehad made,
ue `this Hon.
remarkably lucid, and exhibited very
fie Rike
views. He was satisfied that if the principles
!toted flt Hon. Baronet had discussed were carried_ out they
ttapeer cif great advantage to the country, and would give
an
tee:esfit-. tote tthradewhole nation.—( Hear, hear.) There was
him Part
x! of the Right Hon. Baronet's plan which gave
14at""r• Wakley) t pain, and which would cause
-aentmeariee otit of-dr:oars—The 'alluded to ale tax about to be
the ii" 'n incoir e. A laugh. ) He very much feared tha. t
of
ei 'ght Hoo. Baronet's old supporters would again complain
feltsti-;(``of)ey would complain that he had mane.
Peride,Teat deal aution up to a certain period, but at that
the e "ta caution had yielded, and he was about to impose on
laid-tea° unjust (" No, no.") Honorable Gentlemen
1.4,2, he (Mr. Wakley) was speaking of a tax on income;
leer °Ple cf this countr were qnite prepared for a tax uon
Ihse,PertY, and inasmuchYas the Right Hon. Gentleman had
the f tuch attachment to a graduated scale with reference to
Ila-re(a4 ef the People, they did hope that when the Right Hon.
tarialli,ethrought n
to tax on property that it would be made
to 'Le to as to sui every man's means ; and they would wish
Lis sun how it was that the Right Hon. Gentleman
cif ti'llth attachment to a graduated scale when the food
444 'ed People was concerned, and had come to a
it tax iltY ith regard to a tax on income. If
luP°ll
thermProt were to be imposed, he believed that
t?ntr'''d be t popular tax suggested either in or
Inc'4,l4ethlt 11°4'e but; he a tali which would be an
ei,j,st tax in principle and effect would be as unpopular and
tax as had ever been proposed. The Right Hon.
lese?-!'et stlPp'ited that if a man rented a farm under 3001. a
loot
e"e wet to bat assumed that his profits would be
rivedPEED - and slight uproar.)
rived • I assumed that the profits . a man re-
eweere to be assumed from the rent he paid ; hitherto
eqlti assumed that the profits amount to three-fourths of
~'4^:.i't,Paid• I thought that too mach ; I proposed to re-
rent ``) ene-half ; so that a man who has 4001. a year
feel asseseble to 2001. ; but for any rent under 300/, he
p.l\lr''.q\vin,,t,'"uee tax.
El' said he thought that the tradespeople o f
and the Tower Hamlets, would complain of this
liaat• s'
thistnent Was the Right Honourable Baronet aware
5•
re gaVe a benefit t the landed prorietor.—( Hear, hear.)
'ate a different rule to apply to the p farmer and the trades-
e Year, et man rented a farm for which he paid less than 3001.
▪ wouir might make a profit of 1,0001. per annum, and yet
an "Pr et. "„PaY'oh.) A tradesman who realiFi
300/, a year and who might have no larger a capita
the se7l* at most, had't
an income tax, whilst the farmer,
ar e-4,11t., have 5, lO papyl employed, paid no income tax at all.
i'te-'estnre Right Ho.ne.rele %net would reconsider this plan,
)414 ‘" o might say, haer(Mr. Wakley) was sure that the
nele 0,1 which it was based was bad, and that the plan
• IV„se nothing but discontent.
ace ,„'A.III-)0 hop d that the Right Hon. Baronet would,
convenience-e
to the commercial world, publish his
Sir trnorrow insteadf Monday.
saidtt it wouldo be of. great importance that the
),(1 the + he printed accurately ; all he could do was to lay
ar, s 'aute to-night.
171.5' hadi WORTLEY said that the Hon. Member for Fins-
e-tteee based his argument on a most astoendine statement.
riott °r °f a loan who paid 300/ a year making a'l,ooo/. pro-
s,te_rti:err wan
like that sum, *it was assumed that he would
tee! ereertere tban 150/.—( Hear, he ..) There might be
des oc• amty as to the mode of calculating th profits, but
z‘l cent getting such a profit as the Hon. Membere
alluded
nee': Nte,o Incredible and absurd.
.
es'reppesi,'stY briefly explained, that the case he put was
ql ti
cue question was then about being put by the SPEAKER,
4O(itiert Y7oiiid'eC/NNELL said he hoped that the.
.Right Hon. Ba-
-1,, not press the question, without giving the distillers
111, cti'll,„pportunity to he heard.
tteAlovthe old; tIefiCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER explained
the , vet of the present resolution would be to enable
ttbie Meeint to get the additional shilling a gallon, which
~;.‘. teteetieteo•nuiself got over and. above. the. price in the market.
was then put and carried.
C CONSOLIDATED FUND.
ffeelithe'e".k, NCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER rose to
lila:ink/7,6e Ordinary grant
.from the Consolidated Fund
tieeetieotor tho public service should now be granted.
t4w as Tut and agreed toT.,
eie, •le LUSIVE BURDENS ON LAND.
4-4 hie; vir* WARD said that the Right Hon. Baronet. hail
_
b_erett,„l lineation relative to his (Mr. Ward's) motion. He
,seeeleF ititerfe •
tete s tee re with the progress
from no fault of
tot
tree% eest,el oPportunity of submitting his measure to h
:Ott ;"41.1 knowing that the Exchequer Bill was to be
tntiee't eletdf,,kru:he did noting
think there would have been such
r --eatlr want of Members on the other side as to re-
ft% thelrlliftoe take any means to secure the requisite attendance.
, tee c4O) e, felt it his duty to proceed with his measure
. be-
it gilt 1.1 ru-lavrs were to be proceeded with, though, if the
kb' is nil. le
keit...it aronet would give the Committee he asked,is
Sive4ll,* a question for him whether he should defer h
Iteit '`GBERT
%tares% PEEL hoped the Hon. Gentleman would
llte. assure bestow until the Corn-law debat,e. had ended. He
f'ng to do ne.lloo. Gentlemen that he ( Sir R. Peel) had
y
tile; heewith the fact of there being no House the da
eser Veotillad several witnesses to prove it.
ley trtllllt to 4c:slight his motion was of great
t importance,
therefore
%Ate at he wir,e,cede the Corn-law. Act. u
qou monecticia feel it his duty to press hisll
me omtiosn'for a Com-
erl4lletl the k$
with the
s. te se. -serer said he was not quito satisfied _
shy tlee jh Aight H
h h such was his vine-
m on. Baronet, though
accept
ItoesZeature hat he (Colonel Sibthorp) would rather
°II fele Party oft' than anything, however promising,s
ve,,,eoe to4e„, ePosite. He was glad to see the ax pd
np t de
Atirrpesteidientisioe"es., but he thought Irish residents shout b
could the absentees be always distinguished
kt Ceco,,,,teborne ?
of }i'llna, in e,ELL could prove the Gallant Colonel to be
11.pe:lit!'Y the ezit%trporfollsaibwiie—d(Laughte.r.) The statute 16th
the4l Ifs and the wearing of beard upon the
offender was to be deemed an Irishman.
not tiPHREY hoped that Irishmen keeping car-
, Lee eve 4xerepted.
kte-e,'" Steesup INDIA. BISHOPRICS.
eireeeresettee moved the Order of the day for going
' trod_ COKINGPA()n this Bill.
ttiZectiee ION thanked the Noble Lord for the in-
trt of tcu3S excellcnt measure. He spoke strongly in
, aolouie
gll' "P•ng that, if an increased allowance to
Lord would ishops had nece.,sary, the Noble
ch.t h„e
or tv the trunk front proposing it to Parliament.
1,41„,. Ile attention of the House to the etate
Oea.e the ClPrie in our North American colonies.
tilityklear, a °I) of Toronto only had an income of 600/. or
. the gip
quite inadequate to maintain the respecta-
;lePof oy he te h
70.0 Even this amount of income was only
only es taP holding at the same time the Archdeacon-
fturalir' and a church lie
ing, thus deriving his revenue
'Ystertt of pluralities. This was a subject in

E. BULLER,