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London, England, 1818-05-08 00:00:00

CROWN LANDS.

Mr. HITSKISSON;;I)Iain:(IIede to bring in a
Bill to ve-t iu his Majtsty certain parts 01 Hai-
nauit Fi,rest.

Mr. BaotionAm complaingd4 that -in the sale
and exchange of Lands, there was a very
great diversity in the terms imposed on pur-
chasers. Soule bad been obliged to pay 25 0r.30
years purchase, and others (among whom was a
Cabinet Min ster), were only asked to pay 10
years purchase. He had only been able to find
one case of a sale by public corn etition ; 311(1
that purchaser, Mr Corbet, paid 80 years pur-
chase for a small pie, e of marshy land in Me-
rionethshire. But he would he able to spew s,orne
other stronger cases in the course of the Session.
Sir Walter Stirling lad paid 30001. for a Forestall
ho,,our, which would cost him beside 18/. 103. a-
year ; and he. wished 'him joy of such an honour.
fie then gave notice that he would, at no very
diAant period, call the attention of the House to
a purchase of Lord Lonsdale's, of three-fourths
of a Lordship -alit! Barony belonging to the
Clown, where no man had an oil r but himself
As to the Surv.eyot s, their conduct was a mock-
ery, and no justice could he clone to the pithlic
without putting up these lands by public. auction
He knew a very wealthy individual, who would
ha,e gken three times as much for the Barony as
Lord Lonsd,de gave lor it.
Mr. HusnlssoN agreed in the general princi-
ples of the lion. Gen(leman ; but he reprobated
the casting. reflections on individuals, without
bringing forward specific charges again- t them,
Ile agreed that these sales of Crown Lands should
'take place by public aucti.in ; and that had been
his practice since he had been in office. But mast
of the cases alluded to by the lion. Gentleman
were of small fee-farm resits, which would hardly
pay for the exltence of auctions, -and therefore
30 years purchase was- deemed ad%antageous to
the Public. Ile was convinced that the charge,
it brought forward, that a Cabinet Minister had
got a bargain which no one else could have got,
would turn out to. be unfounded. For the sake
of his own clia,•actcr, i.e always recommended
to the Treasury to sell the Crown Lands by pub-
lic auction. . .

Sir J. GRAHAM said, the barony of Kendal had
been in Lord Lonsdalc's family for 150 years, and
at last came to only one life more, when the
Commissioners of Crown Lands proposed to Lord
Lonsdale to purchase it ; which consisted of small
manorial rights of 2d. and 6d. which were not
worth collecting. Lord L. appointed no Sur-
veyor, but gave 40 years purchase for it, when it
was only worth half that sum.
Mr. liriouGHAN wished to know what Lord
Lonsdale had already received by enfranchise-
ments of this property
Sir J. GRAHAM could boldly affirm, that Lord
L. had not received 10001. by all the enfranchise-
meats, and therefore all the clamours against
him were unfounded.

Leave was then given to bring in. the Bill, an
also two similar Bills, respecting Sherwood an
Breeknock Forests.

ALIENS.

Mr. LAMITON rose to move for the Correspond-
ence between 0115 Government and that of the
Netherlands respecting Aliens. - He did this that
the Honse might better understand the motives
which had induced Ministers to continue the. Alien
Bill.
Lord CASTLEREAGH said, he had never argued
that there was any agreement between this coun-
try and the •Netherlands on the stibitct of Aliens.
He objected to the information sought tor, and
denied that Government had exercised the powers
of the Alien Bill at the excitement of a.ry foreign.
Government.

Sir F. BURIATT said, it might be very well of
the Noble Loid to say that Goverualeat tad never

abused the powers of this 'Bill ; but be-contended
that it was an abuse altot:ether. W-ts t wit
too much to ask for that species of itifounati•in
which would throw light on this s object lid slew
whether it had been abused or not ? This was. a
measure most disgraceful and unconstitutioaal,
and contrary to all ancient policy.
Mr. ABERCROMBIE said, the very reason why
ihe Noble Lord Marl opposed the tn,ttion was the
bvst, one in its favour ; for if the Alien Bill had
not been twide sub,ervieut to any Foreign Powers,
there could be no reason for withholding this in-
formatiou, unless tee had been interferit.g with
the Goternment of the Netlterlands with respect

to Aliens.
Mr. BENNET supported the motion.
Mr. LA MBTON replied. The Noble Lord's ex-
planation was not satisfactory to him. He did
believe that the Noble Lord had joined the Allied
Powers, in demanding from the Neherlands and
Switzerland the giving up of the proscribed
Fienehmen, which spewed a most improper inter-
ference with the internal atfaos of other coun-
tries. He asked the Noble Lord if he had not
done so at the time of the Treaty of Paris ; but
Lord Castlereagh gave no answer.
The House then divided—
Ayes
Noes
Majority
WATCH AND CLOCK-MAKERS.
Mr. P. MoortE rose, purstiant to no•ice, to
tnovc for leave to bring in a Bill to relieve the
distressed ,Manufacturers of, Watche, and Clocks.
its object was to embody in a Bill the sugges-
tions contained in the Itepert of a Committee of
that lions, appointed tn:n(l46re into the merits
of their case. Ht- moven for leave to biing in a
Bill for the more iffecti illy !seven in; of frauds
in the tmoih'acturing, export:l:too, atid importa-
tion of stindry wares ; and tot the relief of ccrtAin
distres,eri M nutacturer,, brought tip to t!,e mule
o making Watches Hod l.locks.
Ailr ROBINSON said, if the 13,h which the lion.
Member wished to bring in were touinled on the
suggestions coiitaiti!d to the Report of the c.-in-
mitiee ahuded to, he dont) ed kihettler it would
not he likely to do more harm ri.an tzood.
Leave was, given to bring in the Bill.

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IKiStt POLILE.
Sir H. PARNELL I ose 0 move for a Committee
to C.•iisider the Peace Preservation Act it iietantl.
It was the genetal opinion 01 the lush Magistrates
that an alteration in this law tAte place.
The prinevil el tin was in allowing the Grant Ju-
ries td appoint Constables in Ireland ; in not
giving the Constables sufficient retn..n,ration.
was therefore desirable Ilia. the praetn e should
be assimilated to that of this count y Pedice
ought alsta to be extended in numbers, in order to
preVent the necessii y of having It-course to the aid
of the military in apprehending ,ffenders. He
their moved for a Stlert
_Committee to inquire
into the LaWs relating to the appointment to the
office of Constable in Ireland. •
Mr. PEEL was fully impressed with the import-
ance of this subj. ct ;hut he was afraid it would be
quite impossible to effect any good at this late
peliA of the 7session.. Neither the necessary re-
t urns, nor the parole e%idence for understanding
the subject, could be procured in sufficient tithe
during the present Session. He had no need to
give the H aye an assurance that he would attend
to this subject, for it hail long occupied his serious
thoughts. The Right Hon. Gentleman observed,
that the Comity of Longford had been much in-
debted to Lord Forbes for his active_exertions in
preserving the peace. The Act for provid-
ing
_for that pittpose had .been fully adequate
to its object—addition Al salaries had been given
to the Constables. Two other Acts hail been
introduced by him—one the Insurrection Act,
for which in its due execution the Govern-
ment was responsible ; and he could state with
satisfaction, that in no one instance had it been
deemed expedient to carry it into effect. Nor was
it intended, when it expired, which it would
shortly do, to move for its continuance.. The
other Act watt the Peace -Preservation Act, which
the I-lon. Baronet wished to have extended. Now
he had brought in a Bill last Session to relieve the
districts front one-third of the expense, and
in
some instances from two-thirds. He objected to
the extension of the powers of this Act, because
there did not exist any necessity—the enmities
being perfectly competent to preserve their own
tranquillity. . It would he therefore invidious to
burthen them With au additional expense. With re-
spect to the Police, the Peace Preservation Bill em-
powered the Magistrates to call in aid ihemilitary in
cases of extreme urgency. He did not see that, sup-
posing it possible to transfer the controul from the
Magistracy to the Grand Jury, it would be expe-
dient at this late period of the Session, nor at-
tended with any good effect. He theretore should
object to the Committee. In the mean time, he
would propose to lay a return of the- Salaries of
Constables, under the last ACt, before the Hume.
Ile wished to state what had been done respect-
ing the office of Sheriffs in Ireland. He had the
authority of the Lord Chancellor of Ireland for
saying, that the selection of Sheriffs was the most
respectable and unexceptionable.
Sir F. FLOOD thanked God and the Right Hon.
Gentleman for having preserved the tranquillity
of Ireland,.by the two Acts just quoted.
Mr. PARNELL supported the motion. He ob-
served, that the people rof the lower orders in some
counties entertained a belief that they were not
bound to obey the laws, because they were, as
they affirmed, made by the enemies of that coun-
try. Indeed he thought some of the penalties in-
flicted were too severe, particularly the punish-
ment of transportation for a mere breach of the
Police Law. A Penitentiary. Establishment would,
in his opinion, be more beneficial.
Sir H. PARNELL replied, and the motion was
Withdraw n

PARISH VESTRIES' BILL:

On the"third reading of the Parish Vestries' Bill,
Mr. CALCRAFT could not avoid stating, --that he
had strong objections to the Bill, particularly at
curtailing the rights of the lower orders of the
inhabitants to vole, merely because some tumulus
might occasionally arise at the meetings. ,
Mr. S. LEFEVRa 11101 also strong doubts in re-
spect of voting, and objected to the Bill, which
deprived the voter of his right ; he thought the
old law of the laud should not be departed from,
Mr. 6..BounNa defended the 1:411, and observe

en that many of the persons alluded to had an •
terest in being clAmorons, 'for they not
quently received relief, and therefore bupported au'
propr,ition which had that object in view•
Mr. CURO'FN thought the regulation w".
create great prejudices throughout the countrf
against Vestries generally. It might be
ii,mults existed at !hese meetings ; and tvilY/
cause the higher orders did not do their d'htY'
Mr. F DovoLAs considered 0174 the Bill vvo"
be effective, if Gentlemen would he active in
it dcr
ing the it duty.. Ile hoped they would not
from their duty. He rather thought it %could "to
better to re-model the qualification entitling
vote.
M. BARHAM had sera persons, not (ntitleal
vote, contend! that they possessed that right, B,lle,
liquidly exclude the respectable inhabitacts. "id
was of opinion the Bill was desirable to rcine(F
the evil. trite thag
The Bill was then read a third time.—
Cla"se
was added, exempting the City of -Loudon
fro
the operation of the Bill. i 0
Mr. C. BAucLAY proposed a similar Clause'
respect of the Borough of Southwark, which Oti-
agteed to.
Mr. S. LFFPVRE proposed a clause exetrPtilltga;
the Borough of Reading, which, however, 11V1
terwards Bill was t::eti pto-'se""

POOR LAWS' AMENDMENT BILL. r,a
Mr. S. But, R ,1! moved that the V(,or
Amendment Rill should he reid a third time bc
Getteral THofiNTON could not let (tic alite9l
read a third time k•.-it hoot •entering 1)0 Prt;;;11
tiptinst the clause which charged the l'7oet
with the roor's rates of houses under 20`"

annum.
The Bill was then rear' bird time 041
Some addit,olial clauses were move' gi
agreed to. (
Mr. S. DOUGLAS Obi creel to that clause "-i
which had th, eti,ct of removing
p'ocii.4. lie thought the Itt')"4/ "rft
rl “cy !lib; cl +n9. would proi‘nicc ►the YerY ``°llt
effect, by weake,iug thos, feetiogs which 111'g
source of many pateuts 0
Mr. Alderni;in WooD said. fie' b,f intent-edi
move a clause as an amendinctit, plovidin4)
t lie children of Dissenters shtmlti not be cool') 6,
hal o artf !daces of ip 01 lbe 141;t5100'
His)) gi cii . El agtecd with -the flon• 1
• he
denial) who spoke last in his objection "1
clanse he bad metitioued. 011
Mr. STURGES ii,,VRNE supported the cl°ll,4e'leig
the ground that the removal of 11"fl' cd
parents 114(1 in many canes been found to Pr'''—

the np,si beneficial t
e fe:
r CuaNEN wAs against the elaose•
moval of the ehildien %%iic not liLly 14;101
inconsiderate mot rtag-s, or any f "'""0.0'
evils for the prLveution of itihit.it it tsar P•
totendei.
Colonel WooD Supported the clause.
Mr. W. LAMBE oppoß,d the clause. °- „01
ground that it was contradictoty to the tel3°.-
the Committee. ore 4
Mr. CALCRAFT and Mr. BROADHURST orti
the clause. e re
Mr. W. SMITH thought the clause in WI!'I ,„„to
spects objectionable. lint the good whit"' ; ~,ef
calculated to produce preponderated so
the defects in it, that he thought it his""
support it.
The House then
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For the Clause
Against it •
MAjority for the Clause ....... •
Mr. Alderman Wimp then moved ilk Aite,;(ei
ment, enacting, that Chintren should 14e "" oto
to go to Church 0-is Sundays with - their
to such place of Worship as they frequen't4.
Agreed t I
o. f/A1
After a tew verbal amendments, the -
read a third time, and passed inefil:
Mr. HART DAtIES hoped that some ru-'',l
Lion would he made to the City of•
'lOll
account of the additional butden which th.elliog
would throw upon its inhabitaws, Ly (311111ij 1/,
them to support all the yaw atiN %vivo ter
sent throngli that part of the eto 6"I
spective connres. .
-The CHANCELLOR of the ExCHEQUES 11144:4!,/
aware. that the inhabitants of Bristol "otita
claims to such compen,ation, any more Lb°
places to ythich none was granted. ti°
The Church Building B II Was read a lb)
and pasvd. !*:OlAe
Mr. LUSHINGToiI, in the name Of 11's "coo--
Friend (14nrd Castlereagh), postponed the
reacting of the Alien Bill to FrulAy next' P:?;
The CHANCELLOR of the ExcileatlE,--ot 11'
notice, that he should move this dayVet
House at its rising do adjourn to next "
sett
day. ' 14°-
The other Orders of the Day were then,,:acii.
of, and the House adjourned at One
occ'r 4f311
The house of Mr. Harris, of Webber'riibid
on Wednesday night. broke open, and-
1." o.ck ister°
a large quantity of boots and skoes, At'
yesterday morning found at the house ofh jo6
shoemaker in the neighbourhood, why
bought them of the thief.
of
RTH:
On Wednesday last, in Guilford-street the
Ls
Mi.?. Henry Hale, of a daughter.
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MARRIED. 1/1)1te•
af Old
Yesterday, at Christ-church, surrev, Mr.
of Banhside, to Mai ia, daughter of James Gree Af -
Falcon Glass-hoive, and Brixton. ~.sq a aro,joit
Yesterday, at St. George's Church, Honore'
John Young, of Southampton-place, eldest !•-sz dal
Young, Esq. of-the Isle of Wight, to Miss Das
of George Davies, Esq. of Scarborough.

DIED. arblai:f
On Sunday eveninmlast, at Bath, Alexander "(;f LW'
General in the French service, one of the Legi°n • 01
to Louis the XVIIIth, &C. b flae"
On the ad ult. in the 72(1 year of his age, Jar°. -tts• *le
Myrtle-house, Peckham, one of the Society of Foe" f soli'
On the 7th instant-, Archer Moore Barlow, E,'L'd°on. di/
street, Finsbury-square, and of Austin-friars, I,;..orkte f
Yesterday, at his house in Crutched•friars, u' 9ge
Esq. in his 60th year. Le Mercier,
On Wednesday evening, the wife of Thos.
of Vauxhall.

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