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London, England, 1827-05-08 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS, MAT 7.
Their Lordships met to-day at Four o'clock.
Lord FIFE took the oaths and his seat.
FITZWILLIAM presented a petition from the
atterebants and Manufacturers of Leeds, praying that their
: 44414,s might take into their consideration the state of
it
,rade now carried on between this country and India.
eh
7rl red fo be laid on the table.
, 'Te House adjourned at a quarter-past four during
pleasure, and resumed at five o'clock.
CATHOLIC CLAIMS.
Itejeter
heßishop of CHESTER presented a petition from
against any further concessions to the Catholics.
e 'tightt Rev. Prelate assured their Lordships that he had
4;4 ,s Was imputed to him, interfered in getting up the
ee,nee with which the petition originated.
t.,!lfier fen?" words from Earl GROSVENOR, the pe-
a was la;d on the table.
theTblie Duke of SUSSEX, in presenting a Petition from
Nt.'"mnart Catholics of Connaught praying for Emanci-
-I,IM, said that his opinions on that subject were perfectly
it"a'tered. It was a question sf the deepest importance, and
cawas but wise, that in endeavouring to get justice for the
0,,41k5, their friends should go with the feeling of the
te,-11trY, and not act with violence or attempt to influence
ite Public mind. The question required time and consi-
Zatima, and as it had never been, so it ought not now to he
to7"e a question of party ; it had hitherto been left open
hiktletY man to vote for it as he pleased—as such, continued
• "°Yal Highness, I have voted for it, and as such I will
ve roostte for it; but if it is to be made the standard of a party,
roost certainly will not Tend my hand to it.
The petition was ordered to be laid on the table.
NEW ADMINISTRATION.
r,,:rhe Iklarquis of LONDONDERRY, in moving for a
of the exact state of his Majesty's present Ad-
theistration, said, I want to knotv in what position
jelr Lon
Government of his Majesty stands. Will the
till," Lord on the opposite side rise and state to the House
114,:it i' is not a Provisionary Goverrunent ? Are we to
Of etand that there are shadows in the great Offices
to state.? My Lords, I have read very lately a his-
-47 s about the shadowless man, but in my opinion
°srvtl'e Present occasion there is a First Lord of the Tree-
With many shadows. But I want to know in
the State the Foreign Department is as contrasted with
has -iLltate of the late Government. I understand there
lie 7n very considerable expenditure incurred lately ; I be-
iftf farther that the First Lord of his Majesty's Treasury,
/ was; informed rightly, has within a very short time—
%eet a% say received, but that he has made his ground sure
tee heremains in office or not,—that he has actually
sider
, or is to receive, a pension of three thousand
to Per annum fir his services. Now, I want
the °w exactly in what condition that office is, and it is,
„.n
thaieTre, with a view of having that knowledge, that I
cowl humbly propose to your Lordships for the return lam
etheg°,ing to move for. My Lords, if the Noble Lord on the
side
earl Is
distinctly that it is not a provisionary
Pt°vs,e,ra'n'"t, do declare that I will then on no account
kped my motion ; but I ant determined, continually
fst repeatedly to call upon him and this House,
tsar4l tthis night to the end of the Session, if necessary, to
f se,_44 point. 1 ant sure, my Lord, the Nuble Secretary
sein-Xte, who holds that office temporarily, would be very
-I,''',2bliged to me to have the return I now call for, because it
tr°,7 giVe him an opportunity of seeing the very large amount
Patronage that is to be disposed of. It is said there is a
l'ere„ great desire existing to have the office of First Lord
`lse Treasury, on acCoun tof the patronage that is attached
kr tr
°ffice. Crtainly I have always allowed that there
frequently reasons for giving great favours, and those
NT—'1. s
L 1 I believe have been given on the present occasion to
obi
side Lords who have passed over from this to the other
to the House; but it would be very satisfactory for us
• has:arn what return the First Lord of the Treasury
thlai° make. lam told, that in a very short time we
sfE see him the Secretary of War--that he will take the
ha ce of Chancellor of the Exchequer, and that we shall
rlove a First Lord of the Treasury in Ireland. Now when
proMsu will tell me that the present arrangement is not
Iripsional, I wish to examine into the grounds on
qoich this great love-for office is established. Good
! when we see the chancres that have taken place
Zeethe Government, which has been, by the wisdom of our
rit, 'tors, or by the wisest and greatest men in the
t, te, established upon a regular system—when we see
j'eus overset--I speak with great humility, for I know no-
ling of the present Ministry ; but I will speak as an of-
at 7er with respect to the army, and I will say, that looking
this arrangement, I cannot for the life of me understand
WOhwole management is
to
be conducted, unless it is meant to throw the anagement of the army
s into the hands of a Minis-
ters and that I most
strenuously oppose.
have an individual to take Let us always
this department, who would be
aide to select good °fficera—wh would
kive officers their merits and promotion, and who would
- be competent to
!erve with them in the field ; but if our army is to
directed dby a Secretarg. And ity s
atno
off' why that is quite
iy in this d, bedifferent thint I will say, in all the departments of office,epartment there is a
tti'lreplete and entire deficiency, and for this reason, that
~,,°b°,l), knows whether those now in office are to retain their
r"'''cee or not. I say, and when I state that I see my Noble
e 4
iiearl opposite me, let it be understood that no one has more
si:v,a,_te friendship for him than I have, when I see him
teitc4s other side of the House, haying, in his ranks the
tiqrt°Pions of Reform, and who have passed. over from this
the °T the House, I declare I think there is a revolution in
that ?Pinions and feelings and sentiments of this country
:\ %lough to paralyse every rational man.—(Laugh-
throCZTY Lords I will not trouble your Lordships further
44 I declare io m Noble Friend, that I shall on every
ad, bring the thing forward, humble as lam and in-
it 1,114' aa I may he to the task, but forward I will bring
'Ail the • y is
easse e Informationproduced, I now call for, be-
of the' would not press for it if I did not see by the state
fat c°ntry, one of the most contemptible arrangements
ever
'save was proposed to the British nation. • I beg
hits r guard myself against saying or using a word that
fe:ga_ rd to any local circumstances, hut at present there
kid most degrading, the most mean arrangement, to arrest
that
c4`3°oPpthe fair declaration. and opinion of the country
I‘lobl u Possibly have existed. Good God ! When the
gr,
ote Lord who used to head the House on this side, can
equirer to the other side and lay himself down among
gronli3 he to delay till that period arrives when all the
info "Ines& of the House is over, bringing forward the
rres mien now called for, and that then we are to be
dto the right about,—(Great laughter)—are to re-
-. 44 here having our hands tied behind us from this moment