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i gEsninr PROCEEDINGS. Sir A. WELLESLEY shortly states the geoneas
MRI al on which it was proposed to limit the resew grallt.
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logs oF LORDS, FRIDAY, APRIL Y9.He believed that the number of the Catholic Clergy
in Ireland was between WOO and 2000 ; Med, besides
ed a, the Bar, in the Roxburgh Peerage mew ;
ed ~.., i.e heard for the Appellant, the pro- the 250 scholars who were annually educated at
t°l—Atelueei'm ' — • clock M d Maynooth, there were about 111 who Were educated,
rot postponed until one o on on ay next.
10_3 members of the House of Contmons brought up the at Private Seminaries in different parts of Ireland, so
r;;.1 Recognizance But, the Irish Possezmons Bill, and a that the total amount would be about 561 1 and these
nab Which Were read a first tune.
sate , it appeared to him, would be sittficient for the supply
em,..i. from the East India Company, presented at the of the Irish Catholic Church. •On a calculation of
1 of tee Sale of East India Goods,
Nllll
DANISH V PaSELS. lives, he believed it would be found that about fifty ,
Students would be wanted annually to supply the va-
viscount SIDMOUTH complained that the
V'laie before the House, in consequenc.e of his
,ei March last, respecting the Danish Mete
ios, cancies occasioned by deaths, and other causes, end
the existing Seminaries would supply that number.
Sir J. NEWPORT observed, that the private se-
rtiesge, &c. were imperfect. He had made minaries alluded to were mere preparatory schools for
Oteeioes,whichreceivedthe sanction of the House, the Maynooth College.
ie-o °Neese motions, relative to the number of Mr. PONSONBY was glad to see that strong dis-
:yessels condemned in the Prize Courts, hnd position to rigid (economy which was manifested by
declined in British ports in September last, no the present Administration, which induced them to
returns had been made. Orders heel been i sent withhold a paltry sum of three thousand pounds from
et Transport Board to furnish the intknration re- I the education and instruction of the priesthood in Ire-
' • but in consequence of some misunderstand- I land, while, at the same time, they proposed a sum of
(o; which he could not account, the returns did i nearly twenty thousand pounds for the support of
_gm.' with the orders of the House. As the in. I police of Dublin. Was it wise, he would ask, to re-
7oe he alluded to was highly essential, and ! fuse such a trifling boon for ehe purpose of Catholic
did lobe produced by Monday nest, he was under ' instruction, while sums so much larger had been so
P,,4ity of postponing his motion, which stood !often granted for worthless, or, to say the least of them,
IrFo-oseelys When the returns were made, he ; doubtful purposes ? This seemed to be doing a harsh
Learnt a day for the discussion of the subject, ! thing for the mere pleasure of doing it, and merely
jt,,, ete present instance, move, that the returns to I the saving of such a trifling sum was not to be put in
;teem" of the 18th of March last be made forth. : competition with the disgust which it must occasion
ito the whole Catholic body. The Clergy must neces-
Irlk emotion being put and agreed to, Lord HOL- , sarily have considerable influence over the minds of
Lop eneessee a hope that the Noble Viscount I the people. Had not the Protestant Clergy of this
eel
not suffer any delay to occur in bringing this ' country some i efluence ? Had not the Methodists a
eect before the House, and he would recommend '. great deal over the body with which they were con-
teem to discuss the suect withou the returns r- i nected ? The Catholic Clergy in Ireland had a it:le-
er/I,S they could not b bje
procuredt immediately.e I milar influence over their people, and hence arose the
'Lord HAWKESBURY said, he did not rise to ' policy of attaching them as much as possible to the
;eve the present motion, .but he hoped the Noble ' Government of the country. ,
ireeee would state the principles of his intended .1 The CHANCELLOR
of of theident EXCHEQUER
, • . eeenhe appointed a day for the discussion. said, that when a question ev public utility
*lad to understand whether the detention of tho I was agitated in that House, he should never be dis-
I Dojo/gels had differed from former precedents, i posed to sacrifice it to public ceconomy. If therefore
r silken they had not been detained as the Rus- an advantage of consequence was likely to be ob.
eseips were when the Noble Viscount was in ad- e •
tained b
ond oting the greater sum, he was disposed
)
IigHTIDOII • most cally to concur in it ; but its he conceived
Lord HOLLAND in explanation: said, it did not the vote to be productive of a contrary effect, he
, Apr that the object of the Noble Viscount's motion I, should propose the less sum ; at the same time he
istocriminate Ministers, it was intended to reform., was averse to, and deprecated all party and personal
Frtical abuses. 1 allusions in the discussion of the subject under their
lad SIDMOUTH assured the Noble Lord •
i consideratioe. His opinion could not be said to
r aWd) that he would not defer his motion longer .i'breathe the spirit of intolerance merely because he was
1 6enessary. The principles of his motion (as he i not disposed to vote to the full extent desired by the
Wined on a former day) were to remedy which' I Catholic interest ; for if he were disposed to concur in
ijustice, and to prevent a repetition of acts it, l'iruilar demands might be made in behalf of the
haddimared the national character. He concluded i Quakers, the Methodists, and every description of
le declining the order of the day for his motion on • Dissenters; as well as the Catholics. The mere cir-
today aexe—Adjourned to Monflay. cumetence of the Catholics being the most numerous
_ class of Dissenters, did not at all entitle them to any
advantages that were not granted to other classes of
the community. It was not the Catholics alone that
were to contribute for the education of their Clergy,
but the subjects of the United Kingdom.
Mr. PONSONBY and Mr. PERCEVAL mu-
tually explained.
Mr. ELLIOTT 'generall contended, that every
y
facility and encouragement should be extended to the
Catholics, to prevent them sending their Priests to
foreign seminaries, where they would imbibe foreign.
prejudices, and incur foreign obligations.
Mi. GRATTAN spoke on the same side, and iaid,
that unless the Government of this country satisfied
the present demands of the Catholics, they would be
thrown into the arms of some Foreign State subject to
the Emperor of France. To conciliate the Catholic
population of Ireland, it would be necessary to con-
ciliate their Priests, and even treat them as objects of
veneration.
Mr. CROKER would vote for the smaller sum
as it was • a Matter of • notoriety that the students
educated at .Maynooth College were not of the des7
cription which the House supposed. Few Gentle-
Men's sons were educated at this College, but persons
of the lowest rank in life attended, under the pretext
of qualifying themselves for Clergymen, and when
they had made some progress, took themselves to
other professions. This being the fact, he could not
see any claim they had upon the public bounty.
The House having divided, there appeared,,
For the original motion 93—For the amendment 58.
The amendment was lost by 35.
The other resolutions were then agreed to, and the
Report was ordered for Monday.
MISCELLANF.OIIS.
Mr. FOSTER presented several Accounts from the Office of
First Fruits in Ireland, which were ordered to lie on the table.
On the motion of Sir ARTHUR WELLESLEY, the Dublin
Police Bill, and the Irish Glebe House Bill, ware ordered for
Monday next.
On the motion of the CHANCELI.OR of the EXCHEQITER,
the Report o otf
the Stipendiary Curates Bill was postponed to
Tuesday next.
On the motion of Mr FOSTER, the Report of the Spirits
Drawback Bill was fixed for Monday next.
Mr. SUMNER presented three Petitions, most numerously
signed by the In
of st. Georges, Bloomsbury, St. Paul,
Covent Garden, and St. Guess in the Fields, in favour of the
Bill now pending in Parliament for building the intended Strand
Bridge.-.-Ordered to lie on the table.
Mr. MELLISH also presented Petitions, numerously signed by
the Inhabitants of St. Andrew, Holborn, and St. George the
Martyr ; and Norfolk-street, Howard-street, Surrey street, and
--.,del-street, in the Strand.—Ordered to lie upon the table.
WAYS AND MEANS.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
Deliestproceeded and ballotted a Committee to consider
*wreathe Grampound Election Petition.
IbLONG rose, to move for leave to bring in a Bill to esp.-
letinsuaitration and auditg motion !be Army Paymaster-Gene.
ufixonat ; he prefaced his by stating, that, from the
amplated state of those accounts, and the imperfect system
ill 14been hitherto in operation for auditing them—notwith-
mkr the Bill passed under the auspices of that great charac.
mix inc Erinsand Burke, that the last year for which the ac-
es of the Paynsaster-General were completely gone through
is 1742, and conseluently there were now the last twenty-five
wain %near. He then went into stems statement of
Itmode for tarrying on the Paymar's accounts before, and
we the passing of Mr. Burke's Bill, and said, that although the
mentions of that Right Honourable Gentleman were directed with
Utmost laudable views, yet his habits of life were not calculated
it him to prepare such a Bill for the purpose, as was the most
idy to be efficient. The objects of the Bill he himself intended
datroduce were twofold: in the first place, to make the ac-
Ii
ort of the Paymaster-General a cash account, and to oblige him
make returns of all his disbursements for services in England,
the conclusion of every three months ; and, secondly, to make
lietuto for disbursements by his agents in foreign countries as
las they could be procured in succession. He concluded by
am for leave to bring in the Bill, which, after some observe-
limbo Dr. Lawrence, in vindication of the intention of Mr.
Prkivras granted. ' • •

LOCAL MILITIA.
Atthe instance of Mr. R. DUNI)AS, the discussion upon the
LealMißtia Bill was deferred till Monday.;
*THOUS TURTON agreed to postpone the discussion ow
&Cuisine question until Tut tlay sennight.
the Cso pithy House svas deferred till ruesday se'nnight.
FeIOHN NEWPORT moved for the Ahstracts of the Returns
sale by the *shops of Great Britain to the Privy Council respec-
Ott die Reskient and Non-resident Clergy for the years 1i4104.
1t05,1106, and 1807.—Ordered.

NAYNOOTII CCI,LFA:E.
The House having resolvel itself into a Cornn.ittee
of Supply, Mr. FOSTER rose to move for a grant
for the support of the Roman Catholic Seminary at
Malmooth. The sum originally fixed for this Insti-
tutio,he observed, was 80001. a year. For the two
last years an addition had been made of 50001. for
the purpose of erecting new buildings, for the accoro-
-1116(1410n of fifty students, in addition to the DO, for
whom the annual grant of 80001. was originally
destined. These buildings were now finished, and he
should move, that there be granted a sum of 92501.
for defraying the charges of the said Seminary, from
the sth of January, 1808, to the .sth of January, 1809.
Sir J. NEWPORT rose to move the sum of
IS,OOIII A. by way of an amendment to the present
motion. The Honourable Baronet stated, that pre-
vious to 1793, there were 478 scholars educated at
different Catholic Colleges on the Continent for the
priesthood in Ireland ; and as a great increase of popu-
lation had taken place since that period, it was rational
to suppose that even more would be wanted than
were then required for the instruction Of the Irish
Catholics. The establishment was indeed originally
intended for only 200, but from various documents
agen. itted to the late Administration, they had deter-
"hed that it should be raised to 400 ; and surely
It was better that the Irish Catholics should have an
educated priesthood, rather than none at all, or one '
that was illiterate or ignorant. It was well known
that Bonaparte had invited the Irish scholars at Lis-
boa to come to Paris, where they would be received
favourably into a college that he had established ;
bat the Irish Clergy had- peremptorily declared, that
they would- exclude from the priesthood all who ac-
cepted this. offer. And what was the reward which
they weroximt to receive for their loyalty ? They
were to be curtailed of the means of education, and
rash treatment, he would tell the ,Conunittee, could
neither tend to make them protestant'. new good cub"
jects but would rather prorface the idea that the
LeVslature were actuated by religions intolerance.

The House in a Committee,
Mr. FOSTER said, he had seriously considered *great incon-
venienties which not only individuals, but the revenue in Ireland
had suffered, by the want of an equalization In the Assessed taxes
there • for that reason, and with a view to prevent those inconve-.
Menges in future, he had adopted a plan, which he should then
propose of equalizing them all. The Right Hen. Gentleman then
' submitted .s string of Resolutions to therffect which be mentioned,
, and after a few observations from Sir JOHN NEWPORT, they
were agreed to.
Mr. LETHBRIDGE moved that every person using a double
barrelled gun, for the purposes of sporting, should pay an annual
duty of five guineas.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER opposed it, upon
the ground of being too trilling to merit consideration, and being
of "coarse so unproductive.
Alterman COMBE resisted It, as adding to the list of taxes,
which were already toe numerous.
Sir WM. ELFORD and Mr. WM. SMITH, as likely to be
hurtfpl to the gunsmiths ; and Mr. IiUSKIS-sON, as a subject
not en for taxation.
Mr BIDDULPH supported it, saying, that however trivial the
moult might be, in these times every little was of use.
TM House divided upon it—For the tax 17—Against it 47.
Est 1~ a majority of 50.
t, we were eachtded from the Gallery,the House adjourned.

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Consols Otii--Ilitto for Athirst 66
ProM evernian, Vrenth, and Dutch Papers, we
have this day laid before out Readers a variety 1
of extracts. It Is stated in the Dutch.papers, that
the French troops entered Madrid on the evening of
the 23d of March, that the town Was illtiniinated,
and that great rejoicings took placisin consequence of
their anivul.
Ott the Ist inst. the Grand Duke at tee° inti-
mated to his troops the approach of his Sovereign 1
and a Paris article of the 16th inst. states, that, on the
4th, the King, Don CARLOS (who is here however
entitled only Infant of Spain), had set out to meet
the Esarson.
The Rochefort squadron., according to these pi::
pers, is, in conjunction with the Toulon fleet, to per-
form prodigies in the Archipelago, A Sicily also or
even Malta. Its force is stated at 31 sail, and has
already provisioned Corfu.
A Venice letter of the 26th of March mentions,
that the flotillas stationed in Venice and Trieste were
ordered to put to sea ; and another article, dated
Genoa, the 2d of April, affirms, that the Rochefort
squadron had captured in the Adriatic two English
frigates and a brig.
This state of prosperity or of promise in the Medi-
terranean, which, we trust, our British fleet will soon
interrupt and destroy, is heightened by a peace hay,
ing been concluded between France and the Govern-
ment of Algiers. This, at least, is the confident as-
sertion of the Itioniteur.
According to the Dutch Papers, a part of the flo-
tilla at Boulogne, which consisted of Dutch vessels,
has successively arrived at Flushing, where two ships
of the line, belonging to the Emperor's fleet, have
been hauled out and sent up the Scheldt. Several
Prussian regiments in the service of France, and a
body of French troops, have arrived there, detach-
ments of whom are put on board the fleet. King
Louis, however, prepares for festivities, and transfers
his Court to Amsterdam on the 3d of May.
They also give an account of the cruize of the two
frigates which were at Martinique, and have returned
. to France. They are stated to have captured twelve
British ships, two of which are privateers.

A Hamburgh paper, of the 9th instant, contains
the following letter : the intelligence which it presents
was brought to Vienna by an extraordinary courier—
viaN:4A, MARCH 30.—'llse Porte has permitted the march of
French troops through its territory towards Persia. On the Gth
and 7th inst. a great Divan was holden, in which the pro position
of the Emperor of the French, for marching a corps of troops
througla the Turkish dominions into Persia, Was discussed, and
finally =ceded to by the Government.

The Captain of the DIANA, just arrived at, Ply.
mouth, states, that he fell in, on his passage, with a
Vessel from Rochefort, from which he learnt that a i
report was current at Rochefort that an Action had,
taken 21acenear the Streights, between the British
and French Fleets, in which the latter had one Line-
of-Battle Ship blown up, two sunk, and eght taken.—
We mention this merely as a report, without having
it in our power to asczrtain the degree of credit to
which it is entitled.
There is a report that the Franchise French fri-
gate and a transport, which sailed some time ago from
Corunna, for Buenos Ayres, have been taken. It is
I mentioned in letters from Baboa, but no official ac-
counts of it have reached Government.

REPORTED REVOLUTION IN RUSSIA.

The Hamburgh Papers give no hint of any com-
motion at Petersburgh, but letters were received in
town yesterday, which' contain indirect allusions to
some uncommon transactions in the Russian Capi-
tal. In one letter there is this remarkable expression,
0 Dreadful work is going on here ;" but no explana-
tion is given of this phrase, which may, perhaps, be
applied to commercial difficulties only. Report says,
that the Emperor ALEXANDER had been sent to Siberia.
Since writing the above, we have seen accounts, re-
ceived in town this day from Edinburgh, of the 27th
inst. which announce the arrival at Leith of his Ma-
jesty's sloop SNAKE from Gottenburgh, with intelli-
gence that it was reported at Gottenburgh on the
20th inst. that the EMPFROR OF RUSSIA had Idlers by the
lands ej. his owe suiectr..--It is impossible that the
rumour of the same kindlin circulation two days ago
could have been derived from this source : so far
the news is rendered the more probable. But on the
other hand accounts from Gottenburgh dated the 22.1
and 23d inst. which we published the day before yes-
terday, are entirely silent respecting such an event.
If there be no mistake in any of the dates, this would
go some length to invalidate the rumour. It is, how •
ever, not a very common circumstance to receive
agreeing accounts through different channels, no way
connected with each other, and yet altogether un-
founded. On this subject the following article ap-
pears in a second edition of the Edinburgh Weehly
Journal of the 27th.
We stop the press to announce the arrival at
Leith of his Majesty's sloop SNAKE from Gotten-
burgh. She brings accounts that it was reported at
Gottenburgh, on the 20th, that the Empror of RURSIA
had fallen by the hands of his own subjects.
" The DICTATOR, of 64 guns, bad been on shore on
a sunken rock in the outer road, but was got off with-
out any injury, and proceeded up the Belt."