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NEWCASTLE AND BERWICIC

The Committee then went through the remaining clauses in this
Bill, and adjourned.

Group DD.

THE CALEDONIAN AND THE GLASGOW, DUMFRIES,
AND CARLISLE RAILWAYS.

The business of the Committee was commenced this morning by
Mr. Hopc resuming his cross-examination of Mr. Miller, the
civil engineer; but nothing of public importance was elicited Le.
yond what has already appeared.
On re.examination, Mr. Miller said that the two forks on the
Caledonian Railway would present a very great obstacle to the pro-
per working of the railway, as one train is obliged at the turn of
the fork to wait until another train arrives. The Dumfries line
was not intended to form a subsidiary railway to the Ayrshire line,
which would be very convenient for all traffic coming from the
north and south. The character of the gradients on the
fork of the Caledonian would be a great hindrance to
speed. It was understood that the Ayrshire line was
perfectly open to the Dumfries to work at their convenience, and
the rates on the Ayrshire would be moderated to suit their rates.
It was possible, in case the Dumfries line were made, to maintain
a branch from it through the Delvine pass.
The CHAIRMAN then interrupted the examination, and said the
Committee were of opinion that the suggested branch was very
desirable, and had been waiting for some days to hear whether it
was intended to make a line in that direction.
Mr. Miller said the plans had not yet been made for the branch
through the Delvine Pass, but he had carefully examined the
country in that direction, and, speaking from recollection, was
satisfied it was practicable to carry the line through it. The highest
summit was 1,000 feet above the level of the sea, and the gradients
for six miles would be from about 1 in 70 to 1 in 75.
The CHAIRMAN observed that nothing had been said in Mr.
Locke's report, or had been mooted by any one else, as to the prac.
ticability of making a line in the proposed direction.
Mr. Miller was about to explain the direction of the branch
from near Thornhill through the Delvine Pass, when it was ob-
jected that as there were no plans or sections before the Com-
mittee, it would be difficult for him to give a sufficient explanation.
The CHAIRMAN then recommended an adjournment, as a very
important point had been raised, and it would be necessary, for the
convenience of all parties, that sufficient time should be afforded
to satisfy the Committee as to the intended line.
After some conversation between counsel and the Committee, as
to the practicability of proceeding to investigate the merits of the
mooted points,
The CHAIRMAN said he thought it would be advisable in so irn,
portant a matter to apply to the Government to send down some
impartial and competent person to survey the country and report
accordingly.
Mr. COCKBURN suggested that perhaps it would be better for the
Committee to hear the evidence on both sides, and it might be as
well to adjourn for a time to afford an opportunity of getting up the
evidence and rebutting it.
The CHAIRMAN said that it was the opinion of the Committee,
and must also be manifest to every intelligent person, that, pro-
vided the pass was practicable, it would be a great advantage to the
rich districts of the west in connecting Dumfries with Edinburgh ;
and there was no doubt that with the proposed branch the Dum-
fries line was preferable to the Caledonian. A continuous
communication would be established with the north and
west of Scotland, and the shortest distance between
Scotland and Ireland would be obtained. If these ad.
vantages could be obtained, it was the bounden duty of
the Committee, on a matter so importantly affecting the public in-
terests, to give it their most diligent attention. In the present
stage of affairs, however, the point was doubtful. The Committee
had not had sufficient data presented before them to decide de-
finitively; and it would not be fair to hear the evidence on one
side without giving to the opposing party an opportunity of die..
proving it if it were possible.
On the suggestion of Mr. COCKBURN,
Sir T. PHILLIPS then proceeded with the residue of his case, and
the consideration of the proposed new branch was adjourned.
Sir T. PHILLIPS concluded his re-examination of Mr. Miller,
and called Mr. Mitchell, a railway contractor. He said he bad
constructed extensive works in various parts, and was well
acquainted with the method of working. He had carefully
examined Mr. Miller's estimates, and considered them very
reasonable and fair. He would have no hesitation in undertaking
the construction of the railway at the prices put on the works.
Mr. Vignolles, civil engineer, said he had examined the country
through which the proposed lines would pass, and a portion of the
districts through which the Caledonian Railway went was com.
paratively poor. The forks on the Caledonian ought,
in his opinion, to have been made in the vicinity of
Carlisle: the advantages which would result from plac-
ing the junction there would be to have the line carried
through a rich and populous country on either side, instead of a
poor country, which it now passes through ; and this was an im-
portant object in laying out a line of railway. He would concur
generally as to what the previous witnesses had stated with respect
to the benefit which the Dumfries line would confer on the country.
On cross-examination, Mr. Vignolles said he considered the
Glasgow Junction Railway would never answer.
Mr. Brunel, C.E., stated it as his opinion that more regularity
in the passage of trains might be expected on the Dumfries line
than on the Caledonian, as great inconvenience would be occasioned
by the forks on that railway. He corroborated the previous en-
gineering evidence.
Sir T. PHILLIPS then announced that the case for the pro-
moters of the Glasgow, Dumfries, and Carlisle Railway had con-
cluded with the last witness.

At the close of the case it was suggested to the Committee that
there was a gentleman in the room who could give some informa-
tion as to the proposed subsidiary branch through, the Delvine
Pass.
The Committee having consented to hear his statements, Itir.
Jardine, engineer at Edinburgh, was called and examined
by the CHAIRMAN. Dlr. Jardine said he was intimately
acquainted with the subject of gradients and elevations, and
other matters connected with railway affairs were familiar to him.
He knew the lead hills, and had surveyed the country for the pur-
pose of making a road by the Tweed to Errickstone. From his
general knowledge of the country he could state that the line
could be madet and he considered the best junction
with Edinburgh could be effected through the Delvine
Pass. He was not in a condition to give any idea
of the nature of the gradients that would be required, as he had
not examined the pass sufficiently to give a correct opinion.
The Chairman did not continue the examination of the witness,
as it appeared from his not having examined the country for rail-
way purposes, he was not competent to satisfy the Committee as to
the practicability of making the proposed branch.
Sir T. PHILLIPS then said he appeared to support the petition
of the Edinburgh and Glasgow Company against the Caledonian
line.

He then called Mr. Mills and Mr. Miller to show that a con-
siderable degree of traffic would be diverted from the Glagow
Company's line at the forks on the Caledonian Railway, and that
by adopting a portion of the Edinburgh and Glasgow line the Cale •
donian would avoid the expense of constructing an unnecessary
line of railway of eight miles in length.
After Counsel had cross-examined the witnesses in this case,
which was not of the slightest public interest,
The CHAIRMAN said, in reference to carrying a branch of the
Dumfries line through the Delvinc Pass, he begged to state to all
parties concerned—to those interested in the Caledonian, the Glas-
gow, Dumfries, and Carlisle, and the Clydesdale Junction Rail-
ways—that the distinct opinion of the Committee was, that
there were several points which referred to those lines
' that seemed to admit of au arrangement amongst the
different companies with regard to their separate interest. It was
the instruction of the Government to the Committee to look out
for the best trunk line, one that would conduce most to the public
convenience and interest; and if the contending parties could not
arrive at some satisfactory arrangement, the inconvenience of the
result would be only attributable to themselves. The intention of
the Committee was to look simply to the public advantage;
and by this determination they were bound to abide,
whatever might be the sacrifice to any of the competing
companies. He would, therefore, recommend to the attention of
all parties interested the necessity which existed for the protcc.
tion of their separate interests, by their arrivingiat some satisfac.
tory determination with regard to their mntual future proceedings.
The points on which it had been deemed advisable to urge this
course of proceeding had already appeared, and it would be un-
necessary for him to recapitulte them.
Sir T. PHILLIPS observed that he was instructed to :say, on the
part of the Edinburgh Company that they were prepared to meet
the other Companies in a spirit of fairness and amicability.
The point was again urged whether the Committee would pro-
ceed to hear the evidence for and against the eligibility of the
Delvine pass, and Mr. Locke said he was quite prepared to give
the Committee the result of his opinion on the subject if they wished
to hear it, or he would send down a competent engineer this even.
ing and inspect the place, and make his report. It was ultimately
resolved that the matter should stand over till Thursday morning,
till which time the Cominittee adjourned.

Group X.
LONDON AND YORK LINE.
The Committee resumed this case today, at twelve o'clock.
The CHAIRMAN said he understood the evidence for the London

and York line was to be closed to-day, except the engineering
evidence.

Mr. PAGET said he hoped it would be closed to-day.
The CHAIRMAN said that the Committee had resolved that the
evidence should close to-day.
Mr. Sergeant WRANGHAM said he would take upon himself to
omit some witnesses they had intended to call, in reference to their
coal traffic evidence, in order that they might be able to close to-
day. He then went on to say that since the Committee had sepa.
rated they had taken measures to supply the omission in respect
to Cambridge, that had been mentioned yesterday. It was to be
supplied, provided the line from Peterborough to Cambridge
should be completed.
The examination of Mr. Wrigly was then resumed, in
reference to the profit which he had calculated
would result from the coal traffic in London.
He had calculated that 2,600,000 tons of coals now came to Lon-
don for annual consumption; and assuming that one.eighth of
that would come by the London and York line, the Company's in-
come, at the rate of 34d. per ton per mile, would be, on 325,000
tons, 177,734/. Supposing that the London and York Company
were to supply one-half of the whole quantity consumed in the
country district, exclusive of London, the quantity would be
357,061 tons, and the income would be 44,632/. 12s. 6d., giving
a gross total income from the coal traffic of 222,3671.
Mr. Wedd, corn-factor, of London, was next examined as to the
corn traffic. He deposed that 14,917 tons of wheat were now ex-
ported from Peterborough in this way—G,ooo tons to London, and
7,000 to Yorkshire, all of which would be conveyed by the pro-
posed London and York line, as it afforded the best facilities fur
conveyance.

Mr. Hum(Ann asked witness why would not some of the Peter-
borough wheat go to Lincolnshire, Nottingham, Birniingham,
Derby, and Staffordshire ?—Witness said, litcausc there was no
mode of transit. Could not say whether the wheat would go to
those districts from Peterborough if there were a line from that
place to Stamford, because he could not calculate upon such an
assumption.

Mr. West, land-agent—Has been a good deal engaged in the
agricultural district of Grantham. He corroborated the evidence
of the last witness in respect to the corn trade of the districts
through which the London and York line would pass.
Mr. John Badley, cattle dealer—Has been employed in ascer-
taining the cattle traffic on the London and York Line. The
number of fat beasts sent from the London and York district to
Smithfield was 22,5 0 4 ; fat sheep, 222,552. The present mode
of transit was by land and water. All these animals would be
sent by the London and York line. The average distance they
would have to travel would be 85 miles. The estimated annual
income by railway for the trasit of them would be 51,4001. 4s. 6d.
After this witness had been examined as to the comparative
facilities for cattle traffic upon the proposed competing lints, and
those to be afforded by the London and York,
Mr. PAGET said that unless the Committee required mere evi-
dence upon this species of traffic, he would take upon himself the
responsibility, heavy though it was, of not calling any more wit.
nesses as to the traffic.

The Committee asked if the evidence as to the coal traffic ha(
concluded ?
Mr. PAGE r said it had.

CHAIRMAN-Then you mean as to the cattle traffic?

Dlr. PAGET—Yes.
The Committee tlien consulted together for t short time,
after which

The CHAIRMAN announced that the Committee were of opinion
that this was a point upon which they did not feel they would be
warranted in offering any opinion, aye or no; the counsel should
take that responsibility upon themselves. At the same time it was
hoped that no unnecessary consumption of time would take place.
Mr. PAGET hoped he had already evinced a desire to economise
time; and then, after a short pause, he said he would take upon
himself not to call any other witnesses to give evidence of this
character.

The CHAIRMAN hoped Mr. Paget would lay a clear statement
before the Committee as to the whole traffic.

Mr. PAGET said he would, and they would now proceed with the
fish traffic.

Mr. Benton, of Harford Pool, then deposed that he had a very
extens►ve fish trade with London, the expense and facility of the
transit of which would be greatly facilitated by the London and
York line ; has paid as high as 271. per ton for the carriage of fish
to London ; thinks that would be reduced to 51. by the proposed
line, and the trade increased to 100 tons a day.
Cross.examined—Has sent as much as five tons of herrings in
a day to London, but they did not pay well. The Counsel then
asked the witness if Grimsby was not 50 miles nearer London than
Harford Pool, but though he askee the quostion twenty times, he
could get no direct answer, or no answer at all, but one to the effect
that the fish would be bad, and unsound, and useless, Stc., by the
time it got to Grimsby. After a few more questions,

Mr. Sergeant WRANGHAM said he would not call another w

ness on this branch of the case

The witness, in answer to the Committee, said he had hereto-
fore experienced no difficulty in his trade until he reached Rugby;
but, from that point to London, the mode of traffic amounted to
a prohibition to the trade.

The Committee then adjourned to one o'clock on Thursday.

Group B.
RIPON AND HARROGATE LINE.

The Committee resumed at half.past twelve, Mr. P. M. Stewart
in the chair.

The first witness called was Mr. John Harris, a civil engineer,
, . .

who stated that he considered the country traversed by the Leeds
and Thirsk line exceedingly ineligible. Had surveyed the country
proposed to be traversed by the Great North of England scheme.
The works on the Leeds and Thirsk Line would be very heavy and
expensive. Thought a much better line might have been selected
between Leeds and Harrogate. A line more easterly would have
been preferable, and would, he thought, traverse equally popu-
lous districts, but of this he was not quite sure. A
great many difficulties might have bee❑ avoided,

which were embraced in the Leeds and Thirsk line, as in
crossing the wharf. Thought the calculations and estimates fur-
nished by Mr. Grainger were greatly too low. They would have
been ruinous to any contractor at Mr. Grainger's price. Mr.
Grainger's price for tunnelling was 401. per yard ; it could not be
done for less than 451. The amount of cutting on that line would
be 1,297,000 yards, and three yards deep, including in the whole
90 acres, which, at 1501. per acre, would amount to 13,5001., as
the value of the land.
Cross-examined—Had been assistant engineer in the Shelton
tunnel, and had executed the Weirdale Extension Railway.
John Parker Bidder was the next witness, an engineer—
He considered the Ripon and Harrogate line free from any objec.
tion in an engineering point of view. Thought the Leeds and
Thirsk line had very large works, whereas the works of the other
were very light. Thought the Leeds and Think line had remark.
ably large and heavy works—larger than any he was acquainted
with, even than the London and Birmingham. With reference

to the curves and gradients he would not-say there was anything
very bad in them, but the gradients might be, in some places, so
difficult as to prevent speed and punctuality in travelling. The
tunnelling would exceed that upon the London and Birmingham
by twenty per cent. Was of opinion that the line could not be
executed for 1,500,0001., he meant the Leeds and Think line
with its branches.

The CHAIRMAN observed that that was nearly double Mr.
Grainger's estimate.

Witness continued to say that he did not make a detailed
estimate of the plan. Thought the Leeds and Thirsk project rash
and ill conceived.

In answer to Mr TALBOT, witness said that he thought it would
be very unwise to form a line passing south from Weatherby to
Leeds.

And being cross-examined by Mr. BAINES, admitted that he had
not minutely considered the expenses of procuring materials for
the respective lines.
Mr. Martin, an engineer.—Knew all the district round Leeds
intimately. Knew the Leeds and Thirsk line. Many places on
that line would not be accommodated by that line—they were
already accommodated by the Leeds and Bradford Railway.
Disapproved of the Leeds and Thirsk line as too expensive. Knew
the coal district in the neighbourhood of Leeds. If the Durham
coal-owners would sell their coals at Knaresborough, Itiron, Har-
rogate, and Weatherby, at Ps. or 10s. 6d. a ton, there could be no
competition with coals brought on the Leeds and Thirsk Railway
from Leeds.

Cross-examined—Was surveyor to the Leeds and Bradford Rail.
way Company. Thought the Leeds and Thirek line would be use-
ful for persons going to the north. There were six or seven mills
on tne line. (Witness was handed a paper with numerous signa-
tures to it, but he did not know the handwriting of the individuals;
but ha did not agree in the opinion expressed in it as to the eligibi-
lity of the Leeds and Thirsk line.
Mr. George Mason produced a paper containing the list of as-
sen,s and dissents to the line, and other formal matters.

The case then closed on behalf of the promoters of the Ripon
and Harrogate line.

THE CHURCH FENTON AND HARROGATE LINE.
This line was then brought under the consideration of the Corn.
mittee. This line is a branch of the York and North Midland
Railway.

After very considerable delay Mr. HLIDr•RD entered the Com-
mittee-room, and said he was happy to say that there would be no
opposition to the Church Fenton and Harrogate line; he would,
therefore, at once call witnesses to show that the proposed line
would confer great advantages en Harrowgrte and the towns
through which it was proposed it should pass. '
Mr. Birkshaw, an engineer, was the first witness called.
The line, he said, would commence at Harrogate and
pass through Weatherby, by way of Thorpe, and near
Saxton, to the Church Fenton station. The distance between
Hull and Harrogate would be nearer by this line than by
any other line. Knew the country well between Harro-
gate and Church Fenton. Weatherby was a place of considerable
importance. So was Thorpe Arch, which, with Boston, was a
watering place much frequented during the season. Thera were no
engineering difficulties on this line. It would pass through a rich
agricultural district. The cost of the line would be 230,0004
the length eighteen miles and a quarter. In this estimate
was computed a double line, which would be necessary. Wit-
ness's remuneration did not depend upon the contemplated extent
ofline. There would be 538 yards of tunnel. The worst curve was
35 chains radius, the steepest gradient in the line was one in 87.
There would be no difficulty in working that with the traffic which
might be anticipated on the line.

The CHAIRMAN—HOW came the Board of Trade to designate
the gradients on this line as on the whole unfortunate ?
Witness—Unfortun ttc as compared with all the gradients in
other districts, but the gradients were the best which the district
could afford.

Mr. HILDYARD said he believed the Ripon and Harrogate line
had withdrawn.

CHAIRMAN—You mean withdrawn opposition to the Church
Fenton line ?

Mr. Ilmovamo—l mean wizhdrawn itself from the Committee
altogether.

CHAIRMAN—Can that be the case, Mr. Dennison ?
Mr. DENNISON, Counsel for the Ripon and Harrogate line, said
he could not contradict his Learned Friend, though he had received
no instruction on the subject.
Mr. Hallman, a fanner, lived in Deighton, near Leeds. Knew
the line of Church Fenton and Harrogate—it would pass near
Weatherby. His opinion was that the line would be most advan-
tageous; it would afford a ready transit to Wakefield, which
might be termed the key of the whole manafacturing district. It
would also afford transit to Hull, which was the best port for pro-
curing timbers, artificial manure, and materials for fattening cattle.
The line passed through the best lime kilns, and they would thus
be able to obtain the best lime for building or manure. The best
coals could be likewise had by this line.
Mr. Wilkinson gave evidence as to the traffic, &c., which would
take place on this line, and which, he said, would amount to
23,631/. Os. Bd., 6 per cent. on the estimated capital. The gross
traffic would be almost 10 per cent. on the estimate.
Al the request of Mr. HILDYARD, this case was allowed to stand
over until Thursday.
The CHAIRMAN would defer giving his opinion on the respective
lines until this day.
Mr. ROPE said that Earl De Grey had witnesses and counsel in
attendance, who would oppose the North of England line.
Mr. Sergeant BELLASIR then rose, and said he appeared on behalf
of the Earl of Cardigan to oppose the Leeds and Thirsk Railway. It
would pass through nearly four miles of his property, near the town
of Leeds, and would entirely destroy the picturesqueness which it
at present possessed, and greatly deteriorate tl.e value of the pro-
perty. The ground there was very suitable for villas and houses of
a superior class, which were about being built there, but Lord Car-
digan's principal oejection was, that it would destroy the beauty of
that venerable and beautiful structure, Kirkstone Abbey, which
every Yorkshireman regarded with feelings of admiration. Lord
Cardigan's property lay upon both sides of the Aire ; through that
which lay upon the other side of the river a railway was made
a short time ago. If this railway, the Leeds and Thirsk
Line were carried , out, it would quite cut up and
destroy the beauty of the property, for it would inclose it, taking
within it the abbey he had mentioned. The abbey had, of late
years, been preserved at great expense by the Earl of Cardigan,
and great preparations had been recently made for planting and
otherwise beautifying the neighbourhood. The Leeds and Thirsk
line could be easily run into the Leeds and Bradford, and a branch
line would well supply the place of the Leeds and Thirsk line,
though there would be a gradient of 1 in 39.

Mr. Downes and Mr. Hayward, agents to the Earl of Cardigan,
gave evidence confirmatory of the above statement. They con-
curred in saying that the proposed line would, if carried out, greatly
deteriorate the value of his Lordship's property in the neighbour-
hood of Leeds—destroy the views and quite inclose the abbey,
almost in a triangular form, the railway passing within 500 yards
of it. They agreed in saying that thirty acres of property there
would sell for 15,0001., for building purposes, but which, if the
railway passed through, would be only fit fur cultivation. 20,000/.
would riot compensat for the injuries which the line would inflict.
After some consultation it was proposed that the Thirsk and
Leeds line viould keep fifty yards further than had been proposed
from the Abbey.
Mr. Sergeant BELLASIS said the proposal was well worthy of
consideration, and they would take until to-morrow to consider of it.
Some evidence was gone into to show that the Leeds and Thirsk
line would, by the cuttings, tunnels, &c, would injure the supply of
water to the villages near the town of Leeds.
The promoters of the line here said they would engage to make
good the same supply of water which they would removeby the tun-
nels, &c.
This was discussed at much length, and it was finally understood
that a clause would he in the Bill, securing to the villages in ques-
tion a proper supply of water.
There being no further opposition to the Leeds and Thirsk line,
The CHAIRMAN wished to know whether the Ripon and Harro_
gate line was withdrawn.

There was nobody in the room to answer this question.
Mr. EnuisoN, the solicitor for the Bill, said the capital was
866,0001.; the depo:t paid in 43,405/,

The Coannittcee then adjourned to Thursday morning, it being
understood that if the Qipon and Harrog.de line were persevered
in, Lord de Grey, through counsel and witnesses, would have an
opportunity opposing it.

EPSOM RACES
(Tills DAY--BY EXPRESS.)

(Continued from our Afternoon Edition.)

The Manor Stakes of 5 sovs. each, with 40 added. The
winner to be sold for 3001., &c.
The following is the result of this race, the first heat
only being over when our last Express left:—
Mr. Docheray's Daleselan, 4 yrs
Mr. Dawson's Montgonivric, 3 yrs 0 2 2
Mr. Worley's John Davis, 3 yrs
Won in a canter. Hampton and Antonio also ran.

'FIE LONDON GAZEVIE
(THIS E'V'ENING.)

BANKRUPTS.

Richard Lewis, carman, Ashford, Kent, to surrender
June 3, and July 8, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy.
Whitmore, official assignee, Basinghall-street ; Anthony,
Nicholas-lane, Lombard-street. _ _ .

William Poole, sen., shopkeeper, Horton Lock, Bucking-
hamshire, June 4, and July 5, at eleven, at the Court of Bank-
' uptcy. Green, official assignee, Aldermanbury ; Hutson,
Upper Clifton-street, Finsbury.
John James Brown, grocer, Bury St. Edmund's, June 6, at
eleven, and June 30, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy.
Ball, official assignee, Coleman-street-buildings; Taylor,
Featherstone-buildings, Holborn.
James Taylor, maltster, Bromley, Middlesex, June 6, at
twelve, and July 8, at half-past two, at the Court of Bank-
ruptcy. Edwards, official assignee, Old Jewry; Marten,
Thomas, and Hollams, Mincing-lane.
Thomas Herne, draper, Cardiff; Glrmorganshire, June 10,
at one, and July 4, at twelve. at the Court of Bankruptcy.
Edwards, official assignee, Frederick's-place, Old Jewry;
Parker, St. Paul's Churchyard.
George Cornelius Burns, upholsterer, Devizes, June 10 and
July 8, at twelve, at the Bristol District Court. Hutton,
official assignee, Bristol; Dean and Co., St. Swithin's-lane,
London ; Cox, Bath.

Leonard Barnes, provision dealer, Redhall, Lancashire,
June 9 and 30, at twelve, at the Manchester District Court.
Fraser, oflicial assignee, Manchester ; Johnson, Son, and.
\%reatherall, Temple, London ; Higson. and Robinson, Man-
chester.

William Davis, butcher, Compton, Staffordshire, June 2
and July 2, at twelve, at eleven, at the Birmingham District
Court. Whitmore, official assignee, Birmingham ; Parkes,
Smith, and Co., Bedford-row, London ; Motteram and
Knowles, Birmingham.

MARKET INTELLIGENCE.
(From the London New Price current, of May 27.)
SUGAR.—To-day, importers of British Plantation Sugar
displayed increased firmness, the trade were anxious to pur-
chase, and for every kind the demand was brisk for the scale
and pan. The prices paid exhibited an advance on those of
Friday of 6d, and in some cases is per cwt.
REFINED. —To. day there were plenty of buyers of Refined
Sugar for home consumption, but the supply of goods is still
scanty. Brown lumps were sold at 6Ss 6cl to 695, and
standard lumps at 70s per cwt. Crushed Sugar manufac-
tured under bond was much sought after, and is not to be
purchased under 3s per cwt.
MAURITIUS.—This afternoon the demand was active for
Mauritius Sugar, and 6,481 bags and 70 casks at auction
were all sold at and after the public sales at an advance on
former rates of 6d to Is.

EAST INDIA.—This afternoon Bengal Sugar met with at-
tention, and 3,117 bags at auction went Is per cwt higher.
FOREIGN.—To-day much inquiry existed privately for all
descriptions of Foreign Sugar, but higher rates being insisted
upon by holders prevented large transactions : at public sale
187 chests of Brazil were offered, but a part only sold owing
to the extreme rates that were required.
MOLASSES.—To-day an increased desire was shown on
the part of the grocers to purchase Bengal Treacle, and the
market was nearly cleared at 16s 6d, which is an advance of
6d per cwt.

COFFEE.—To-day Mocha Coffee was more in request, and
375 bales 6 casks at auction were partly sold at an advance
on former rates of Is to 2s per cwt. Berbice was in excellent
request, and 118 casks 70 brls at auction mostly sold at is to
2s per cwt. advance. In Ceylon several purchases were made
privately at 46s 6d to 47s for good ord Native.

Cocol.—The better descriptions of West India are now
much wanted, but of such the supply is small, and ordinary
sorts sell more freely ; 186 brls of Trinidad at public sale this
afternoon were disposed of at 40s for common dark grey.
TEA.—To-day there was more activity in the Tea market,
but no advance took place. Some parcels of Congou were
sold at 9d to 10d per lb Air ordinary to good ordinary, cash.
Roar, BRANDY, AND HOLLAND& —Leeward Island Rum
has been purchased largely, and the rates paid are in some
cases rather above those previously quoted. Demerara is
wanted, and command former terms. Jamaica has been in
good request, and prices are firm. Calcutta is wanted
upon former terms, but holders declining to sell thereat,
Brandy has been in increased demand, and large parcels
have been disposed of at improved rates. Geneva is more
wanted, is 8d to Is 9d is now the value of common export
sort, and fine fit for duty 2s 4d to 2s 9d per gallon. English
Corn Spirits lOs 2d per gallon cash.
Rrca.—To-day there was a brisk demand for Bengal, and
several parcels were disposed of by private ; at public sale
2204 bags were mostly sold, the lower sorts at an advance
on former rates of 3d, whilst on the better kinds the rise was
6d per cwt.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF LORDS, May 26.
Mr. O'DRISCOLL.
The NOBLE and LEARNED Loan then said he wished to
draw the attention of his Noble and Learned Friend on the
Woolsack, to a statement which he had seen in a Paris
paper, quoted from an English paper, relative to the conduct
of Mr. O'Driscoll, an Irish magistrate, who had been twice
removed from the Bench, and twice reinstated; and if the
statement he had read were true, he felt bound to say, that
he had never heard of an instance in which the administra-
tion of justice had been brought into more flagrant contempt,
than it bad been by the outrageous conduct of this individual.
Now it was possible that that statement might be true,
although it had appeared in a newspaper—(A laugh )—and be
hoped his Noble and Learned Friend would answer his ques-
tion, which was, whether or not Mr. O'Driscoll was still re-
tained in the commission of the peace. It appeared that
Mr. O'Driscoll was the presiding magistrate at the Petty
Sessions, at Skibbereen, at the time the transaction to which
he alluded had taken place. ( The Noble Lord then read the
account which appeared in The Sun about a week since, of
the conduct of Mr. O'Driscoll, from which it appeared
that Mr. O'Driscoll, or one of his brother magistrates,
refusing to take certain informations, exclaimed, " By God, I
do not understand these popularity-hunting magistrates," and
that on Mr. Galway, the other magistrate, attempting to
speak, Mr. O'Driscoll called out, " Sit down, Sir, and hold
your tongue. You had better sit down, or I will meet you
elsewhere.") So that here they had a magistrate sworn to
keep the Queen's peace, and presiding over his brother magis-
trates, threatening to challenge one of them to break the
peace, and making this challenge on the bench of justice itself.
Now, if this were true, it exceeded in indecency all that he had
ever heard of as connected with the administration of justice.
The Noble Lord then went on to read the report. On one of
the magistrates remonstiuting, Mr. O'Driscoll said, " I tell
you, man, I did not mean him at all ;" whereupon Mr.
Fleming, another magistrate, said that if Mr. O'Driscoll did
not give them an assurance that the affair should go no further,
he should feel it his duty to bind him over to keep the peace.
Now this attempt of one magistrate to challenge another on
the bench, was one of the grossest breaches of the peace that
could be committed. This took place the other day at
Skibbereen.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said he had nothing to do
with the appointment of magistrates in Ireland. He knew that
the conduct of Mr. O'Driscoll had been made the subject of
discussion last session, and that their Lordships seemed satisfied
with his reappointment.—( Hear.) He had never heard any-
thing of the transaction to which his Noble and Learned Friend
had alluded, and had nothing to do with the appointment or
removal of Irish magistrates ; but he would, if his Noble and
Learned Friend wished it, write for some explanation on that
subject to the Lord Chancellor of Ireland.
Lord BROUGHAM said he did not mean to hold his Noble
and Learned Friend responsible. He hoped he would not be
satisfied with a mere answer, but would fully investigate the
whole of the circumstances of the case.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said he should communicate
with the Lord Chancellor of Ireland, and direct his attention
to the matter in question.
The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL said, Mr. O'Driscoll being
a magistrate in his part of the country, and knowing him very
well, he wished to know whether the matter, to which the
Noble Lord had called the attention of the House, was of re-
cent occurrence ?—( Hear, hear. )
Lord BROUGHAM said it was.
The Earl of 510UNTCASHEL said it was rather remark-
able that it should have been alluded to in the French, and not
in the English newspaper.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said he had seen it in
more than one Irish newspaper.
The Earl of AIOUN TCA SH EL said he had no doubt that,
if it were inquired into, Air. O'Driscoll would not be found the
guilty individual lie was said to be. Mr. O'Driscoll was a
Roman Catholic and a Conservative, and this was a crime not
to be forgiven in Ireland ; but a man who had the misfortune
to be a Conservative was condemned to all eternity. —( Laughter. )
The Roman Catholics bore a great dislike to Mr. O'Driscoll
for these reasons, and were determined to renew the warfare
which they had evinced towards him on a former occasion. He
again expressed his belief that the statement of the Noble Lord
was incorrect.
Earl FORTESCUE said, as the person who had
brought forward this subject last session, he was desirous of
saying a few words on the subject before the House. On that
occasion he heard no defence of Mr. 0 Driscoll in that House,
and then the charges brought against him were not made be-
cause they appeared in a newspaper; but after be had been
convicted by a court of session, he now felt it his duty to say
what he had said on the occasion to which he alluded—that the
conduct of Mr. O'Driscoll was most unbecoming in any one
holding the station of a magistrate and of a gentleman. Ho
had seen the statement referred to by the Noble Lord in
beth Irish and English newspapers. The reason why he
was restored to the commission of the peace was, that it was
expected to conduce to his amendment—( Hear, hear)—that
he would have been prevented from repeating the conduct
which he was stated to have beeu guilty of before. He be.

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lieved he should be borne out in this statenTeitt.cfr. O'Drilstbeillit
had, however, a serious relapse.— ( Laughter.) Ile hopetifooa
after iequiry, the statements ef the NbLord wereweet
to be true, that he would not be suffered too
reain anY ,_ ;A
in the commission, that he might not again be suffered to
into a relae.
Lord ‘VHpsA IiNCLIFFE said that was the first timehe_...bore
heard of the subject, and he did not hesitate to say tube ,t ~ s
improper conduct on the bench could not be pursbe:_":4o
magisti ate. Persons on the bench should conduct t
that they
in a decent manner, and like gentlemen, recollecting e`
~.... on
were conservators of the Fella.. It was unnecessary
i
''ad to se°
to say much up ni the subject. He was, however, g
the matter was in a proper course.
MAYNOOTII.
The LORD CHANCELLOR presented a petition. iis
magistrates, bankers, and memberetspoifvfvoforarer,iotouloisnelosvptri.ioesfieloisttsii4elo°t,
jnivtfir:oo;
Belfast, in favour of the grant to Maynooth• The Pedt_.'notnier
signed by about 400 persons, Protestants of different ' 10 the
tiees, three of them being deputy representatives OOO
council, twenty magistrates, nine bankers, and other r
of great respectability.
The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL presented two
.„bly of
against the grant—one was from the General Asse:,,tyst
Presbyterians in England, and the other from the e u" '
Derry. ngregrt
Lord MON TEA GLE presented a petition from a rho goo
tion of Protestant Dissenters at Cambridge aeinsr ~ of it'
to Maynooth, and another from the same place in feetnejbf
Thu Bishop of CASHEL presented a petitionts'aeod ire.
270 ministers of the Established Church of England , sod
land. He was only a stranger in their Lordships Iftleji'bestl,
he was not aware, therefore, whether lie was quite,
_a_ but, if
to make any remarks on the presentation of a
Their 1. die
permitted, he did wish to say a few words. o •
ships were aware that in this city, at a certain
thel, siil
year, several religious societies assembled to hold Lod; se
versary meetings. Such was also the ease in ireped ;nit°
during one of these assemblages this petition we:, :," in . 5
course of two days by these 270 clergymen. l`ri :oteoteehe
eating the cause which these gentlemen wished toPaose of u•
was free to confess that the Irish Church, at the si Pro
sible, and that it had been made simply a
last century, had been in as low a 7d egg°
petitiom 1
001,
serve the purposes of the Ministry for Pthleititiese:t obeitribilt!
No institution could ever flourish under such treatnletor sees
which the Irish Church received. If a coach Pro Res out i.,.0
horse that was restive and vicious, and that horse sr"d if wi
coach which it was not used to, no one would boesvuerrepr;ist
lobe;
disposed
cawas f
teir sometimeschu r
cuhp set.
patronageT he present eirirto a
necl
Gin__
,!Ifts,icto 51
honourable manner, and it must be evident, be to. fii.lociplev;
parties, that they acted upon the just and soon°Jsr. LOP,
preferring those who were humane and gned,',ureb, gerusteh
very eminent prelate of the Roman Catholic ut'lsss Ch ne
as his opinion, that the clergy of the Irish Pr° std there' AI
uniformly showed the greatest kindness to all also wen
could not conceive a sight more melaneholYs °the teachintgi
more egregious, than a church established for niy.righ the
other
tnoher
ee sr, ebht
eaoinfodtgl,oetcoitirgeiyangeresed,gwai
orhdietchdheatpsh
propagation
gcoonnaetsoii
uodose,roe
of lei
tbee t s°. v ,tib,l7 ha ;rid o •
latrous.—( Hear.)
The Marquis of NORMANBY. conesuurPeringtitiii:jescebe2i;ettrsl
which had fallen from the Right Rev. Prelates hid 0.01
one question respecting the remarks which be &sting° te
presenting the petition. It was, whether lerYtio.o tbe rtsof
clergymen of his own diocese had not refused tribet"purerttbe
tion, and expressed their entire dissent from old forgiear
the prayer ? Lest the Right Rev. Prelate slit, tbeeoftbe
circumstance to which he alluded, he would nfawogaegeysstee
men who had entered their protest against the std'
doeument—they were the Rev. Messrs. Wood" „ osee
Palliser, and Hofferman: _O, elerejtiost
The Bishop of CASHEL denied that We resod'
of his diocese had refused to ingn er heelideeiii‘
and for the simple reason that they had ne'Doblie orilf
The petition had merely lain for signature in geleetstod.
the late Easter meetings in that city, and bile:1001e elf.
drawn up and supported by 270 clergymen la, , oftbe ',lb";
He had heard that an address, signed by 9 of .i-od obis° -01 r"
gymen of his diocese was intended to be present
_a, tbstwee
hha address dEnihr
aaeerds
rls
erlieyn;
elkfiaTnyveezodwuwiriboloytLfhrLtiehoregAgrolvtrfiatnhte.
kind,
i Hn
de , caonudl d e
voenzll9o 'f its •Ss
oe
rti 0 "
protested against in h°. dietli
of the Right Rev. Prelate, that the cleegibo did,Fedet„
were in favour of the petition, and that these /rat dereilosee"
take of that unanimity were guilty a gr.,etbe en'°be„,.
duty, because they ought not to eni°l titee.4,ll";
of Protestantism and at the setech tbe„,re'" e in.,,e-b
a party to the preaching of something veu',.ool7, Vev,"-re
Prelate did not exactly express. No 00,7.00 lie/. ";sci
than himself the differences that existed be`itiebt„, Cbn'rly
of England and the Church of Rome. Thlteibe'_s'foroe'iis
late drew a contrast between the mode of u' it bed toot 0,
patronage at the present moment with whew, sppo,,indeferts
been, and said that for a long period eeerJde Wit!, „etek-A,
Ireland—lay as well as clerical—had been We fie 0;01 '4
to English, and a neglect of Irish interests. Ireland to del
with that, nor that the Protestant religion in darisig
vanced more rapidly at the present time then
, bif
of Usher, Jeremy Taylor, King, and others.
fo"' 04
The matter then dropped. Brien titioo,,
The Bishop of LLANDAFF presented e;,.11-tho Iseowt",
diocese against the grant to Maynooth, vib.'`..ioo of, let'
considered in direct opposition to the constitme_coerm
try. He would merely say, that he heartily UM
...etiti'l
sentiments contained in the petition. a 746.r otee,
to
tTheho sMarquisam e
effoefe
effect
fromß EA DWAeLs re
yAa.
oN Ec preservationso,irievfdteu sis._,re, i oil
Britain and Ireland, signed by 70,534 'nd had ear is
the the body from whom the petitions emanated 0_ of MI, sre
wards of 100,0001. in promoting the extenr_ netill°744
its all parts of the world. The chief of nr/hieir eel; is'
agreed to at a meeting of theWesleyal br'sdii lesneuld accoagi .se
Hall, on Friday, March 28th last, and as to go thr°,ol
td
much of their Lordships' time if he
whole of the petitions, he would, tbeir object
iTe
grounds on which the petitioners be'.
: n ion, the prefertbe Pr
grant. They stated that, in the,'" -V0 rontulgateu eere'di
cittio,imesisohr Cthheucreolotosictiliceo,Peorpwehrchius I s PAnd. weieblioos ;ad
stated in the terms of her Majesty's oath, '4,-jeettieo.ll_
V ser 00°
idolatrous. That they were intolerant aim ....,c, roe to
dangerous wherever they obtained the aseeride"o Poelf led
that the meeting regarded all the grant Wit al AO ,
of such a religion as that of Rome, oti.i,a —pooh
testimony
Thirdly,s bt irmi n
on down
that,owt
on
increase that which was in itself bade, :it this "i)esql;
the
el t hdwoi sui
psgldheoamstuhreae , o,meeting
i gs
shiwtt
yya s G:1;'5101 0
pis
tt ai 0 s_
to o f
by
he presto- ~tioopti..,,
~,,,,
religions which had not any principle of !,:i's thst "frill;
truth, and though they were particularly anawdestbeuteo,oi
ration should be extended to their Ronsea..„ foe tie is
subjects, yet there was nothing in this desijogral'astt
which could call upon them for the support ofopeall. owl
College of Maynooth. Fourthly, that the riecil", "but
Maynooth, and consequent support of the
ePt WA' set hit
there, had been looked upon with deep regr_ O' 040
Christians in this country. Fifthly, that they 0 0;10 the
view this increase of the grant to MaynoOth J
on
...try. ,00
ito
endowment of the Romish Church in this eea_,PesseP's for or
statement he should conclude his observatiteuld coyer o,
single remark that, whenever the time i'
were .bisetost
people to express their opinions, whether it
sod to t, Past eat,
off, they would, unquestionably, be found oPOlundreeLeer el
'rho Earl of WINCHILSEA presented a"3 bet w- re:,
against the proposed grant to Maynooth. its :era Inej Perished
tbeffstabli the
rently reported that the clergy of the countryof
to this grant, he had to state that ninety-firaoi the 00101
out of the hundred were from elergYine? 9 aleeg_letee Could
Churels. One of these was signed by ',73.7elere; be etrfr
archtleaconr of Suffolk, and another by to tbt-iisenSay 4
archdeaconry of Northampton. In addition, in
.e bTier,
say that the Dissenters of every denomintshiter',lool to •
with the exception of one—that was the Anise oterstoelti
Dissenters, who professed Unitarian and fce; fiieen,, be obit,
with the exception of these, he believed‘_rotioo,bytb
man, were opposed to it. With these i, oavnpeare"
read the:titles of the petitions, which,. 't r 'Of
came from all parts of the country. ~s ACrijoe mood'
CHURCH AMEN DNIEN 1,4 he b
_Aot
_sod
moved
de
tßheishborpingeifngLOupN DON explained t"
the C"Pin 1/P-01
ments Act by mistake, of
andth the
assuredß epor
Report
b?,,-n., re n°i'd idea. ,sw, ci ; .45
Friend on the woolsack that he never bile iio tbely
advantage of his absence. He should bed Led _,.,,41100:, IS
the objections of the Noble and Learned an opYler , die
and to give the Noble and Learned Ler t the °rs SIIP
urging them. He begged to move t,111140 est 4
p„se_,,
third reading on Friday next be disco
A the gigoPosl
Bill be re-committed. satisOeu "der ll'io• le ,se
The LORD CHANCELLOR was et u° fre ofr
Prelate had moved the adoption of the rert 1;6%0 some
misapprehension, and was glad the Ilisetions
given him an opportunity of stating his " "
clauses in the Bill. Sr
o,l* el the
The motion was agreed to.
The Earl of FORTESCUE asked the ~iien b, ie
I RISH LAND COMMISSNioeIe 1;i/000101i tied'
cretary for the Colonies, to name the day of 13r.011, oil;
on his measure relating to the iniproventeucoolon";; 000
founded upon the report of the Irish Lane
recoils eh 0/
Lord STANLEY could not name the F 040. ,if sof
ticipated that in the course of the nest ito liesetirse
able to bring the Bill foray ard. e.. evieheu "i 0 a - ,e'
The Marquis of CLANRICARD'-' rt were - bo .of
other Bills founded upon the same rep weer' .0014
preparation Cerarnreseljtet ‘l°
Lord STANLEY replied that the . OO p
..otee 4
tainly made several suggestions, but no cove' ss th:4
public business he was unable to say Iva'
~A to St It by
be enabled to ad upon them. ders's 000°0
The Duke oft DEVONSHIRE was 'in asdees 'to th h b
of faill tieg Abe several Bills were in a great state
__9oll veil .1.0
been thought advisable to postpone tou',ii tile A' for tP
the
pat on and tenure of land in Ireland, ui%oretarY been,
been entrusted to his Noble Friend the 0 ts n t per
'ts stages. a tbs ope 111,
The had passed through some of i ~ hope 00u otts ill,
The Marquis of CLANRICARDL' o be at le 1.13 11,
Noble Lord brought forward his meoes,.n,rb; tide orb
ot.hs eat.%
liament and the public in possession .
ot._''ect of the Toped to',
some slight sketch of the nature and. Di ~,
for • erd sweirtsood,•
which Government intended to brims_ out
hattoeleee fee v
hints which heretofore had been thror: he
loose 110
expectation of the Irish peoples tbel to be J.
Noble Lord, it was not intended to . . °ugh Sow.,
• their objects th. shoe'
defined. in the present session, the •oe'
defined. (and d abet,§ll ,
unciers tare t r iv
The Earl of WICKLOW did h d dee ..enett 00 ,f,
'es a the 10 e l''
Lord the Secretary for the Coloni . .._
ratio,
eido
seou.-- low - A
Bills were not to be brought forwaihd In id i h
ot, e • Ire end
but at all events, if they were land in b r
of theh fo
measure for the improvement
eat the labseu,,dere'
till the next sessior, of state te be brtsse"Lbeo
Lord STANLEY said he did n
and
b'friegs
Imovement Bill was the
but that lie could not pledge if be did
olor setoo
he would bring his Bill in
andunderstood, that poseeilett
course of the it 0t0it...0,
ward
He did not agree with the Nobln
lwikaeslysurteo hehe winisthroeddueitedtoir
important rtieee;tiro tes
to enter into all the various a
thae c
Marquis that a _steee .. 1
s
proving the land in Ireland. ini‘ I
to o
0 lice,,rh re epl :IS:hilts:
sbte._::cittribp
upon by these Bills whenh.e brought 111;:is_j
love
asort
Fl raDE beggente the re gifeii,
't he matter then IRISH
The Marquis of CLAN ls.
the Commissioners on the .
issioners batsider dresserthigiditie"'s
notice the report of the Comrinse
he
question of which he had r
niust e° _A.,s 00_0 l
sue!
~, the sue Jon opllsit
his duty to bri e,
.honold haLehed S° oe'
nisLooi
ger drbsttloisitioassnt'ee, table,io,fti,
the
rfTidhr
iie,slf,
ciefioog
se.ui 1
be
:I' 1 I
etie
1.1
rs o
in
_C
en n
b. wa q
period he should feel it to b
, when be ' ife $1"0, col iii
i going at length s
ithweiirtyLoofrdsliips'
L el '`l'
the Noble Duke opposite w.
articular stePs 'n
c"sideratlinhnetothetrheitrewrB:94;bseheinptre:set'l3t yeaf
Noble 'rand itile
',I the • stall.' OP-
consequence of the report?INGTON set loth ine_ie too_or
h Fisheries.
Deo laid boob an,
v e rinlmiee iDi t
utkoet aokfe
resented p°
be oun able 0
P
aware that the report was pre
he Ittred4c6 ft
answer to the Noble Lord's questionded to TS'''eb
Government inten C°S'ee poi
what measures Govern
WELLINGTON
OF AIAS 0. fr
er mein° ~ P to
- ORMAN') ', ,- ate. n goo toli
The Marquis of IN • prese he tot i
former occasion. ing t f 01
queues of the report. any
partic
gory regninio" e tiOelseioo '
shoemhea d
their Lordallipe that th
i last SA PI
the
classes CONDITIONo
f Manchester,esasanatory
stops to improve th
The Noble Marquis said he W.ish_edonatthitheb:o to il
—pray
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