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former delinquencies , and to prevent that contamina-
tion to which they might otherwise be exposed.
He believed that the course adopted would, in the end,
be less expensive to the mother country itself than if the
parties were left at home.
After some furtherconversation the vote was agreed to.
A vote of 8,3201. was then proposed for the expenses
of the works, and repairs of the British Au bassador's
house in Paris.
Mr. HUME thought the sum a very large one.
• The vote was then agreed to.
sum of 62,300/ was proposed for defraying the
;Varies and expenses connected with the two Houses of
Parliament.
Mr. HUME proposed that 21,0001. for the House of
~...teords should be taken off, until they knew what were
the items.
Strangers were ordered to withdraw and the Com-
mittee eivided,'when there appeared—
For the original motion 9O
For the amendment 23
„ Majority against the amendment =--,57
HAWES protested against the principle that
whatever might be the expenses of the House of Lords
,they had no right to know how they were incurred.
"fecs,:;.; The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said for-
merly the practice was for the House of Lords to ad-
.!%ei, • dress the House for a grant to meet those expenses, in-
s stead of which they were now inserted in the estimates.
• Mr. HUTT said there was a Clerk of Parliament who
received 4,000/. a year, and never attended.
Sir R. PEEL said it might excitO jealousy if they en-
atz
~,.lered into this case, which was the only case, he believed,
111 which the House of Lords had any control over public
money,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
-cl7 hoped, they would not involve themselves in a contro-
Ise ii:versy with the House of Lords.
, Mr. HUME said he would move that the vote should
Postponed until they ascertained the amount of the
Ile -
dw lees. lie would not( surrender the rights of the Commons.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
%ale/ it uas not giving up their rights. It was a privi-
liQ-1-41°ge which the other House had enjoyed from time
• Immemorial.
Mr. HUME then moved that the vote be reduced by
• ' -12,0001. •
- The gallery was cleared for a division. but the amend-
-440/',:uent having been withdrawn no division took place, and
tiff 34- ease Vow was agreed to.
g`l.: The following votes were then proposed and agreed-toga'
- 53;800/. for paying the salaries and expenses connected
%.1- With the department of the Treasury.
15,4001, foraying the salaries and other expenses
111se,,,eonnected withp the office of her Majesty's Secretary of
5,21 State for the Home Department:
The next vote proposed was 78,0001. to pay the salaries
14, 4nd expenses of the Department of her Majesty's Secre-
illtit :tarY of State for Foreign Affairs, which 'was agreed to.
1_ A vote of 15.523/ was agreed to for the salaries and
expenses in the Department of the Secretary for the
- Colonies.
A vote of 32,195/• was then proposed for the salaries
S'Tllrld expenses of the Privy Council and Board of Trade
"Deo.rtment.
4.4;141 M. HAWES said he did not think the two offices of
-4411,' 4resident of the Board of Trade and Master of the Mint
'l4l'Bll.oldd be combined in one person.
-"‘ S)4, 1110 vote was then agreed to.
141 A vote of 2,000/. wasl'agreed to to defray the salary of
the Lord Privy Seal.
35266/. was voted to defray the charges of the office
• of Paymaster-General.
18•103/. was voted to defray the salary of the Comp-
• troller and Officers of the Court of Exchequer.
2.0061. was voted to defray the salaries of certain Pro-
fessors of Oxford and Cambridge.
.A vote of 13,3681 was agreed to, to defray the charges
°I the Commissioners and other Officers of the Insolvent
Debtors' Court.
P 6,282/. was voted to defray the expenses of Parkhurst
rison in the Isle of Wight.
. , After ft short discussion, 6,300!. was voted to defray
the expenses of model prisons.
The next vpte was for 2,2571. to defray the salaries
441 other expenses of the State Paper Office. After a
abort conversation the vote was agreed to.
The vote of 3,4001. for the expenses of the Ecclesias-
• feel Commission was then agreed to.
• - On the motion that 59,800/ be granted to defray the
;txpenses of the Coinmissioners and Assistant Commis-
. I,4,sioners of Poor-laws,
s
FERRAND expressed a hope that the Govern-
• went would consent to postpone the vote, until an inquiry
Was instituted to ascertain the value of the services of
the Assistant Commissioners, who, as far as his expe-
zlenee went, did nothing hut go round to the unions at
certain times, and shake hands with the guardians, whose
proceedings they did not always report afterwards very
After a short conversation the vote was agreed to.
The next vote of 15,000/. for expenses incidental upon
• Inc Commission for suppressing the African slave trade,
was agreed to without opposition.
The next vote proposed was that of 112,4701. for
' . Consuls, Vice-Consuls, and contingent expenses of su-
perintending the trade with China.
Mr. DISRAELI said that he really believed Consuls
had nothing to do, and he did think they ought to pause
before they granted such a large sum.
Sir C. NAPIER would not object to the vote. but ho
thought sufficient attention was not paid to the appoint-
ment of foreign' Consuls. •
Lord PALMERSTON said that the necessity for the
cppointtnent of Consuls in all foreign ports, where there
11,1apsezalteBrirlyitish trade, was indisputable. ; and he had been
applied to for the appointment of Consuls in
*P„
'l..Les in which there were none, and in which British
ttuitucilects trading there had suffered inconvenience, insult,
seeit.!,9P, in consequence of there 'being no Such repro-
' "'tive of' this country. The duty of the Consul •,vas
reors:°hact British traders, and he believed, that for the
Pert, that duty was most efficiently performed.
Co HUME inquired why there had been lately a
besul appointed for Syria, Where there had• been none
cou the last two years. in which the trade of the
ylltry had been destroyed ?
Lord PALMERSTON replied that the unsettled state
t7l, Syria, to which his Hon. Friend alluded, was rOally
Co4t which rendered the presence of a Consul in that
t.ltry necessary.
CL Sir C. NAPIER believed that the appointment of a
sul in Syria was one of the best the Noble Lord
that he had thought it so necessary, that he had taken
trat pains to persuade the Noble Lord to make it.
. After some further conversation,the vote was agreed to.
e. The sum of 8,800/ was then voted to defray the sale-
and expenses of the inspectors and superintendents
tectonies.
and
sum of 5,800/. was voted to defray the salaries
4,expenses of the inspectors of prisons.
41"- he sum of 26,995/. was voted to defray the expen-
. • thre of the Mint.
,‘„The sum of 3,1111. was voted to defray the expenses
of
Children's Employment Commission.
,
House then resumed, the Chairman reported pro-
gl.ess, and obtained leave to sit again. on Friday.
HER MAJESTY'S PROTECTION BILL.
uvin the motion of Sir R. PEEL, the Protection of her
''''qesty's Person Bill was read a third time and passed.
CORONERS' COMPENSATION (WARWICK).
e C. DOUGLAS obtained leave to bring in a Bill to
11v
the
the Coroners and Clerks of the Peace for
,counties of Warwick and Lancaster, and the Clerk
the JustiCes of the Peace for the county of Warwick,
Illteg for the Birmingham division of the Hundred of
14,glalingford, for their loss by the incorporation of the
~,,Poughs of Birmingham, Manchester, and Bolton.
The other Orders of the Day were disposed of, and the
'`uuse adjourned at a Quarter to Two o'Clock.

COMPROMISE COMMITTEE.
SOUTHAMPTON.
,•,,,The Committee met at the usual hour, the Hon. J. S.
riortley in the Chair.
tfillenry Harding was called and examined :—Voted at
b e last election for Hutchins ' and Mangles. Knows
rhea Donkin, a tailor, of Southampton. He is a re-
iittion of witness. Ho came to witness at his father's
01,3,0, and pulled out a number of sovereigns, rind said
" „",""a, " Will you come with me ?" Witness's, mother
11;_s'ailed him away, and desired Donkin not to corrupt
`‘",,i'• He voted out of a house in Gloucester-square.
HEARN—Did you state at' the election that you
ere possessed of the same qualification out of which
"°,,,11 were registered ?
The witness having refused to answer, the- room was
*4erLred, and the Committee decided he was bound to
4.4,BTher upon the question put to him at the election.
-Ole witness then stated that he had said he was pos-
4ssed of the same qualification.
gadW. Fall examined—ls a banker, of Southampton,
--"‘I a maffistrate of Hants. There were accounts kept
'.ith the 'bank for several electors. The witness pro-
' • tiac
ed the accounts, which corresponded exactly with
those handed in by Mr. Lankester. Has no doubt that
Toss and extensive bribery has been practised at the
1,113. t. election. Believes it has been practised at the mu-
-4:1-leiPal elections. The municipal elections have an effect
• • ;ill the Parliamentary elections ; and treating and col.-
' • infrien applied in the municipal, would have an indirect
• of:allelic° on the Parliamentary elections. He heard an
eer of the Corporation confess that he offered five
te3'tellow boys " to a voter, to be neutral. He resolved
tio, to interfere in elections any more, because he could
IT„'',(10 so without being cognisant of corrupt practices.
she same
measures were taken to prevent them, he believed
ssrizzpractices would be resorted to. Believes the
" A. Abrahams," in the memorandum book,
7,13° the hand-writing of Mr. Abrahams. He was Mr,
41renbrethato. s' banker for some time. Never had any diffe-
,,, . with Mr. Abrahams.
" aer',the ComsurrEE—Believes that if bribery was ren-
iL.,
.elia?‘l more easily discoverable, and colourmen and
'
Innen were put down, it would tend to put an end to
te,
• orrtp,..
practices.
%ses for wr' BAKER informed the Committee that all the wit-
-•atni,hom he obtained summonses were now ex-
tht,rand, and it would be for the Committee to say whc-
;:t rtCleY required any more.
th 4 e CRAMMAN said that at present he did not see
was any necessity for summoning more witnesses.
'llr• Laishley was then called and examined by Mr.
lobraa;lin
.---i The signature, "A. Abrahams," in the me-
-book was very like the handwriting of Mr.
m4_1413,18 ; he would not say it was.
tatar• Coxwell was called.—He did not believe the sig-
Ar...e Was that of Mr. Abrahams.
had " Madison was called.—Knows Mr. Abrahams. He
5t„..4_11 account in his (witness's) bank. Never saw the
quirrandum-book spoken of in the course of the in-
,.tr.3",; believes the signature "A. Abrahams" is not
hho Abrahams' handwriting ; is in the habit of seeing
- Write daffy.
br4l,Mr• BARER—Thinks the signature is not like Mr.
the si -Rills' handwriting ; he would not pay a cheque on
sigt„Pature • it is an imitation ; he saw traces of the
dayz,,kure of
Mr. Abrahams before ; it was about ten
lieowarKnight showed them to him ; did not
" what purpose they were shown -; did not know