The Sun.
London, England, 1818-03-11 00:00:00

&env: ? Why, that Oa of flat futAit-!tonnes sery •
ed by the concern with which he Was connected,
one in eight had been purchased by the Brewer.
The proportion of those in the same siitrdtinn
svhich were served from the Brewery. of Whit-
bread and Co. was-one to seven. In short,. out of
the whole•—•out of about two thousand public-
houses in the -Metropolis, there might he two or
three hundred in the hands of Brewers. A
certain number of houses that had-not been pur-
chased were filled' by persons who had received
loans from the Brew.ems, for it was the practice-of
all of thenm ti) lend stuns in this way;On the lease
of the house. These, however, were not bound
to the breweries, with which they were thus con-
nected, as. if they should find .-'the article with
which they were screed such as the public did
not like, they could pay theabortey that had 'been
advanced- to them,,• •atoi go elsewhere, Be-
tween -two and three hundrad persons he knew
had.thai changed in the course of last- year.- He
meaot such a number had come to -the house
with which lie teas coonected. or_ gone from
it tinder such circumstance's. Now it was said,
that by the loans dots advaaCeal, the capital
laic! oust by the brewers .was increased
that the public were in consequence charged
more. for • their porter than they would otherwiSe
have to pay. He could however assert, that if
the brewers put but .the t welfth part of a . halt.-
penny on each pot of heir they sold, it would pay'
them beyond their Most sanguine exoectatioas
for all the money they had-lint-ill the• way he had
mentioned.. Jr. was tiotrefare that. if this
practice were discontinued, the public could not
lave their port-& •a cheaper fa) e. lint. then it'
Would they might leave tit better. He
would leave the Honse.to conceive how much
better could be made for the twelfth part'of a
halfpenny, or theone hundred -and fort y-foUrth
part of the, price of a.pot of porter, From this
statement he thought it would be seen, that. from
discOntinuing the practice of lending money to
publicans, the public could not have their porter
either cheaper or better, and that by keeping up
the practice, a considerable number of.individuals
in humble circumstances were materially benefited
wlole the public at largesustained noinjury. Now,
on the price of pot ter,te would again. refer to the
Report, of the Police Committee. Thechairman of
that Committee had investigated the subject with
much industry, he (Mr. Barclays) had given
hint all.the information is his power., What was
the result as to the exorbitant increase; of pike
alleged to have taken place i. Why, it appeared
that 30 or 40 years back porter bad hi-en sold for
three-pence halfpenny per pot. The GovernMent
had made such an addition to the duties paid on
it, as raised it to tporpence, and the increase
which bad taken place on the raw materials from
which it was made, was so great, that the House
must see there, was not the shadow of a foun-
dation for the charge preferred against , them
in this' respect. This he proceeded to spew
by a comparative
,statement of
~the prices
of malt and hops at different periods, which
be asserted to 'have been incorrectly toot-
tal by Mr., Beaumont. That Ge4tleman had
said the porter had risen a halfpenny %Theo the
price of malt and hops had been reduced, and it
had declined when they had risen': - This had oc-
curred at the periods' alluded to, but it
.was the,
laying on,artol. the taking off the Waoltlait Duty
that had caused the variations of price which had.
been noticed. Such Were the grounds on which
Mr. Bramooot had moved for a vote -of censure
against the Brewers. But Mr. B. had accused them
of raising the pt ice of, porter whet; their stock in
band could not have been affectet(by the advance
which had' taken place in the prices of malt,and
hops. He would asset t, without fear of contra-
diction, that the patine had participated in the
_benefits afforded by the stock in hand. They
must have paid a higher price all last year than
they had pUid if the stock on hand had not pre-.
vented a larger augmentution of the charge than
had actually taken place. This would be under-
stood when he stated the price formerly paid for
malt to be G4s. including the war duty ; the
price now 'laid for it without the war malt duty
was 83s. But one of the Breweries haul, in de-
ference to the sense of the public, its manifested at
the Crown and Anchor meeting, reduced • the
price ot its porter. He-had a little history to give
the House on the subject of this• Brewery. This
was 4. public Brewery which had been raised by
subscription shares. 11 might be supposed that
such a Breteery could afford'to sell cheaper than
any other, as people who embarked their money
in such concerto; were tvell satisfied to receive five
per cent. interest; hot those who traded .in• a re-
gular way haul a right to endeavour to gain some-
thing more; But what would the Idolise say when
they were told that this patriotic concern had not .
paid the shareholders any interest at all
,for some
years ?• By subscriptiOn shares the stunt of
350,000/.lrad been raised to establish the Brewery,
and now the shares were selling at such a price in
the market, that it might be said all tbeir capital
hadbeethlost,,,but, about 100,0001. They, 4ltere-
fore, acting:thus, could sell at a rate tiVat WO-other
e.wery could think of selling at. ',Besides time
Brewery he
„bad' mentioned; there were pnblichns
in various parts of the metropolis Who sold. a
penny tinder the market price. But he had never
heard of any persons doing this who did not mix
water or table beer with their porter; and he
knew many instances of. houses who sad under
price havingbeen refused porter front the Breviery
he was ionnected,with, becanse they were certain,
if sold to them, it would be mixed. lie denied
that there was 'any combination ,of the great -
Brewers against the interests of the Public. It
was owing to them that the price of- Porter had
not been oftener rai'ed, and they had lowered it
when the small Breweries would never have.
thought of doing such a thing. It avas said that
porter was not made front malt and hops. This
charge, too, was made without ti 'shadow of
fouridation. He could answer for one house
that. it was untrue, and he was convinced as Much

might be•said for all the rest. If the Brewers of
London were to use any deleterious ingredients,
they must be supplied with them by cart-loads.
These must he brought in before all the people
in their service, and also before the Officers of the
Government, who were always about Their

['Uses. Could it tlieu be tbouglit such an attempt

would be made, woven in all probability ruin must