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and Gallant Officer near him (Mr. Corry) were members,
ould not well be censured for its party bias. With re-
spect to the defence of the dockyards, to which the
Noble Lord had alluded—by whom were the dockyards
neglected ?—(Hear, hear.) Was this Government
chargeable with it ? Why it was the present Govern-
ment that originated a plan for their defence. Thereda
was no necessity for a Commission—they had had
Commission already—and the subject had already under-
gone the fullest consideration from the highest autho-
rities in the country. He could assure the Noble Lord
that the subject had not escaped the atten-
tion of the Government, and the result would
be seen in the measures which they would
propose in the course of the present session.—(Hear,
hear, hear.) The censure of the Noble Lord on
this head did not apply to the present Government.
So much for the particular motion ; but the Noble Lord
opposite had considered this a legitimate opportunity
for making observations with respect to the foreign policy
of the Government, and particularly regarding the right
of search. He wished the Noble Lord would bring this
matter to the test, and take the vote of the House
of Commons on it. The Noble Lord recollected per-
fectly well the result of his motion relative to
the Ashburton Treaty, or as he called it, " Capitu-
lation," and did not like even to make a motion for the
production of papers, the House had on that occa-
sion shown so little sympathy with the Noble Lord.
The treaty made by Lord Ashburton with the United
States had keen entirely approved of by Parliament, and
whose vote had declared it consistent with the honour
and interests of England. The Noble Lord, he repeated,
would never forget that unfortunate result of his attempt
to depreciate the services of Lord Ashburton. The
Noble Lord, fearful of encountering the opinion of the
House by making a specific motion, had introduced the
discussion on the navy estimates. The Noble Lord
talked of concession, but at the same time admitted the
propriety of conciliatory language, but he (Sir R. Peel)
felt convinced that the Noble Lord had no reason to
complain of any undue concession, and the use of tern
perate language would not make them less firm and de.
termined, though they were certainly anxious to pre-
serve the peace of Europe. If the Noble Lord objected
to the conduct of England with respect to the affairs of
France and Morocco, and France and Otaheite,
let him bring forward a specific motion on the subject.
Ile thought that the most had been made of those op-
portunities, and if concessions had been made, they
had been made with the especial object of preserving
the good understanding that had hitherto existed be-
tween the two countries, and surely it would not be
conceived, that the peace between two such countries
as these should be risked or destroyed for the sake of the
protectorship of two small islands in the Pacific, 8,000
or 10,000 miles from the particular sphere of the French
Government ; and he did not think that the good un-
derstanding which had subsisted between this country.
and France shoura be destroyed on account of this differ-
ence occasioned by the island of Otaheite. With respect
to the right of search, he (Sir R. Peel) could not say
how soon that might be abolished, nor how far it might
be modified, or indeed to what extent it might be inter-
fered with on the present occasion. The Noble Lord
had referred to the effect of those votes upon the slave
trade, but he would beg to remind the Noble Lord of the
position in which this country and France was placed,
with regard to the slave trade. But ha should, at the
same time, have referred to the state of public feeling
which had existed, in both England and France, with
regard to this exceedingly delicate subject, and he (Sir
R. Peel) fat assured that the conduct of both the
trustees, the Duke de Broglie, and Lord Ashburton,
would give full satisfaction to the country, and that it
would tend to the promotion of thatcordiality between the
two countries which he believed their decision was likely
to occasion.—(Hear, hear.) The course which her Ma-
jesty's present Government had pursued was not one
which they had voluntarily taken up, but which had
been forced upon them by the conduct of their prede-
cessors. Up to the time that the present Government
came into office there had been a supposition that the
understanding between the two countries, England and
France, had been both agreeable and permanent. But
such was not the case, fur immediately on the fracas
which arose out of the affair of Syria there had been a
misunderstandings In 1837, 1838, and 1839, there was
no diminution of this good understanding, but in 1840
there did occur a difference with respect to the right of
search. This difference arose out of a simultaneous de-
sire to repress the slave trade, but there was a various
impreseion as to the mode in which this right should be
exercised, and if the Noble Lord was desirous of in-
quiring into this right he would refer to the act of the
late Ministry and prove from their own desire to repress
this trade, that the difference whatever it might be be-
tween the two countries was one which had been in-
duced by their own endeavours to suppress the
slave trade. Was it right that if feel-
ings had grown up in either of the two coun-
tries which intimated that the mode adopted
was more disagreeable than it would otherwise be, if
other measures were adopted, that this country should
refuse all assent to an alteration of the plan they had
proposed, and determine not to consent to any more
efficacious instrument for effecting their own object?
With respect to other matters to which the Noble Lord
had referred, and in which he seemed to assert that
differences had arisen between this country and the
United States, he must give the most unqualified denial
to any such assertion. He (Sir R Peel) felt that conci-
liation was the true principle to be observed in the in-
tercourse of nations, but yet, at the same time, he con-
ceived that the honour and interest of no country
could be rightly preserved, nor that the honour of any
country could be consolidated, by any waiving of its
rights and dignities. While thinking this, however, he
also thought that all energy should be used in upholding
the dignity of a country with energy and vigour, and,
because he thought that this had been done in this coun-
try, he should resist the motion.
Lord J. RUSSELL was astonished at the tone assumed
by the Right Hon. Gentleman with respect to the obser-
vations of his Hon. Friend. He thought there was suffi-
cient reasons fur making an inquiry respecting the in-
crease of the naval force upon the coast of Africa, when
there was an increase of the navy estimates de-
manded.—(Hear.) There might be reasons for this in-
crease of the estimates, but there were also other reasons
for the observations of his Hon. Friend ; and it was
necessary for the satisfaction not only of the House, but
also of the country, that these questions should be ex-
amined. There was certainly very great excitement
respecting the suppression of the slave trade. His Noble
Friend (Lord Palmerston) bad stated that Lord Castle•
reagh and the l)uke of Wellington had thought the right
of search a point of the greatest importance. It had been
written, signed, and ratiaed by them ; and was the
House now to be told that it should be abandoned
and yet Government proposed, at the same time, that the
estimates for the navy should be increased in order to
suppress the slave trade. Was it not under such circum-
stances excusable in his Noble Friend to say, " We do
not object to this vote, but is it not fair, at least, that we
should know the purpose for which this money is wanted
—the object to which it is to be applied ere we grant it?"
The Right Hon. Baronet, in reply, had taunted the
Noble Lord with the course he had taken with respect
to what was called the Ashburton treaty. lie did not
think the Right Hon. Baronet had any reason to plume
himself on the result of that treaty.—(Hear, hear.) The
proper merits of that question were not to be lost sight
of in the able speech of the Noble Lori. Why, what
was the treaty in effect? His Noble Friend the Secre-
tary of State for Foreign Affairs at that time had in-
fersued the abuse that the American Government had
advanced certain claims, and they (the British Govern-
ment) had made their claims, which, not being
acceded to, they gave the question up. The
American Government said, if we accede to your
propositions, shall you, in return, give us the navigation
of, the river St. John's. Many persons might think that
a great portion ( f the territory given up to the Ame
' ricans was scarcely to be considered either as
a lose or gain ; but then they ought to consider
the manner in which that territory was trans-
ferred ? Was it fair to the Madawaskwa villagers
that they, if willing to abide under the protection
of her Britannic Majesty, should be transferred
to. another country? The Americans had said, "We
must have the whole of the right bank of the St. John's.
We cannot allow the British to cross the river." The
demands of America arose as she found them readily ac-
ceded to, and they obtained possession of a further terri-
tory which we granted to their claims. It was certainly his
(Lord Jchn Russell's) opinion that in those treaties the
interests of this country had not been sufficiently at-
tended to. This might be thought a partial opinion ;
but it was one lie had always maintained, for when in
office, in concurrence with his Noble Friend, he had in-
structed Lord Syslenham as to the negotiations with
America; and he had also, in conjunction with the Noble
Lord, "fi"eYed. to Lord Sy Benhame their approbation for
having broken off those negotiations. The Right Hon.
Baronet had said that these were
keep up a hostile matters to
moderate
edictive feeling, and that a
better and more
consolidation and preservation toneofpeace. He (Lord John
would tend to the
Russell) hoped that could
no one accuse him of being
insensible to the blessings of
beste but he also thoughtthat this was not exactly the
peace. The language which they miradtecoonrsipderroccuornicnig.
liatory other persons might call pusillanimous and weak,
and the consideration that the Gov
have gained more if they had shheoawrn) a
Govern
creased determination.—(Hear,
time gave the Government the fullest credit fore same
having consented to anything which they ream never
con-
sidered injurious to the interest or derogatory yeoe
Haeoulatewthhmatishnt.
honour of their country. The Right lion. Baronet had
asked his Nobie Friend to specify a case in which the
Government had nut rated the honour of England suf-
ficiently high. He would mention one in which he
thought the Government standard had been placed a
great deal too low—he meant the case of Spain ; and he
complained that in the transactions relative to that
country they had not ascribed their submission to the
power of France, but to a revolution of opinion in Spain
itself. lle would not touch on the other questions as ho
intended to bring them forward on a future night.
De. Lushington, as far as lie was aware of his opinion,
held that the right of search was one of the most effica-
cious means by which the country could put down the
slave trade, and he believed that the formation of this
Commission was solely owing to an excitement in France
upon the subject, and that it was deemed expedient to
give way to that excitement. He did not contend that
the leading men in France laid any great stress upon it;
hut still this, he thought, led to its formation. Ho was

of opinion that, on su-ch a subject, it would have been
better for the Government of this country to have at
;vA-ivEitmce, and tlirestly, treated with the Government of
ranee, for le thought it too important to be
,-fi,..:'..-%,,•:, at to the decision of two Commissioners.
).-14;:(3\71 • Right Hon. Baronet had admitted that were both
. :-,_:<.f.....„ .\''.. kV 'erntu en ts increasing the number of cruisers upon
Q.,.-).7.:"4- P.. 4 frican coast, that course would be more efficacious
0,-/ '',-..L.;.1.% /..,ifo .utting down the slave trade than any other. With
1-7jVF:..,/4,;'''i pect to the vote before the House, he was glad the
1,1
11r--_:_-_.\L''''' overnment had determined to increase the naval force
, sof the country, and he therefore thought that sufficient
il

reason had been shown for the Committee acceding to
the vote. There was, however, anot er subject
upon which he wished to make one or two
remarks.—(Hear.) He alluded to the employment
of steamers for naval purposes. He did not desire to
disturb the present power of the Board of Admiralty,
with regard to the employment of steamers in a general
point of view ; but with regard to their employ-
ment for carrying on a war, he thought it would
be exceedingly useful to have a commission con-
sisting of scientific persons to inquire into and
report upon this branch of the subject. At the same
time he wished it to be understood that he had no de-
sire to disturb the present functions of the Board of Ad-
miralty, but he thought a report of a body of scientific
gentlemen on the subject would assist, instead of embar-
rass, them. Upon those grounds he was inclined to
support the vote.

Captain PECHELL was sorry to interpose at that
late hour, but it would be seen that he had given notice
of an amendment to that vote, and he thought it would
be his duty not to omit that opportunity of mentioning
it. The case of a class of officers, who had a strong
claim upon that House, bad been entrusted to him,
but, somehow or other, discussions of a political tendency
had prevented him from bringing it forward. He might
be told that he could bring it forward upon any other
rote' but unless he could come to some understanding
with the Gallant Officer opposite, he should feel it his im-
perative duty to proceed with it at once. He had, how-
ever, great faith in the humanity and integrity of the
Gallant Officer; and he trusted the Gallant Officer would
suggest some remedy for the evils of which the parties
for whom he pleaded complained.—(Hear, hear.)
Sir G. COCKBURN suggested that the Gallant Officer
might move his amendment upon the vote relating to
wages being brought forward.
And, upon the recommendation of Mr. HumE and Sir
C. NAPIER,

Captain PECHELL said he would adopt the course
recommended by the Gallant Admiral.
Sir CHARLES NAPIER took that opportunity of
giving notice that upon the wages vote being proposed
he would bring the condition of the masters before the
Committee, and also the propriety of advancing seamen's
wages.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. HINDLEY was, on the whole, not opposed to
the vote, but he protested against the principle which
argued that it was necessary to augment the naval force
of the country for preserving peace.
The vote was then agreed to.
The Chairman was ordered to report progress.
The House then resumed, and the Chairman reported
accordingly, and obtained leave to sit again.
The Customs Duties Act, and the Public Museums
Act, were severally read a second time.
The House then adjourned at ten minutes past
Twelve o'Clock.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.
TATTERSALL'S.—YESTERDAY.
The attendance included a considerable number of round
betters, but so small a proportion of backers, that although
many horses were touched upon, the investments in most
cases were so insignificant, that we have some hesitation in
making a quotation. As exceptions to this remark, we may
mention Semiseria, Obscurity, Ratan, Celeste, Ould Ireland,
and Patriot for the Chester Cup, for which, too, Pug, Pride
of Kildare, and Yheomun•ac-Knuck were in some demand;
and Lord Exeter's lot, Pam, and Weatherbit for the Derby.
Inquiries after Newsmonger, Mentor and Pantasa, but no
business done. For the reasons stated above we give the
fallowing list, " errors excepted :"-
NEWMARKET HANDICAP.
5 to 1 agst Lord G. Bentinck's Croton Oil
10 to 1 agst Mr. Drinkald's Vol-au-Vent—taken
20 to 1 agst Mr. 11. Davis's Gorhambury—taken
Offers to take 6 to 1 about Porto Bello, and 10 to 1 about
Skeleton.

TWO THOUSAND GUINEAS STAKES.
5 to 2 agst Lord Stradbroke's Idas—taken and aft offd.
3 to 1 agst Colonel Anson's Kedger—taken
5 to 1 agst Colonel Peel's Cobweb colt
20 to 1 agst Idas winning this and the Derby—taken.
THE CHESTER CUP.
8 to 1 agst the Irish lot—taken
10 to 1 agst Mr. Jaques's Semiseria—taken freely
11 to 1 agst Mr. W. Scott's Cataract—no backers
12 to 1 agst Mr. A. Johnstone's Obscurity—taken
13 to 1 agst Mr. H. H. Johnstone's The Era—tk 14 to 1
25 to 1 agst Mr. Bell's Winesour—taken
30 to 1 agst Mr. Stebbings's Celeste—taken
30 to 1 agst Lord G. Bentinck's Pug—take 35 to 1
33 to I agst Mr. Cuthbert's Queen of Tyne—taken
33 to 1 agst Mr. Isaac Day's Portrait—taken
33 to 1 agst Mr. Armstrong's Ratan-35 to 1 tkn freely
33 to 1 agst Mr. Davies's Yheomun-ac-Knuck—t 35 to V 1
35 to 1 agst Mr. Irwin's Pride of Kildare—taken
40 to 1 agst Mr. Irwin's Ould Ireland—taken
40 to 1 agst Mr. Meiklam's Trueboy—taken
40 to 1 agst Mr. Irwin's Patriot—taken
40 to 1 agst Mr. Osbaldiston's Sorello—take 50 to 1
1000 to 15 agst Mr. Irwin's Faugh-a-Ballagh—taken
1000 to 15 agst Mr. Irwin's Polish—taken
DERBY.
33 to 1 agst Lord Exeter's lot—taken
40 to 1 agst Sir G. Heathcote's lot—taken
40 to 1 agst Mr. Greville's Alarm
14 to 1 agst Lord Stradbroke's Idas—taken and after-
wards offered
15 to 1 agst Col. Anson's Kedger—taken and aft. off.
18 to I agst Lord Chesterfield's Pam—t. and aft. off.
18 to 1 agst Mr. Ferguson's Clear the Way—t. & aft. off.
22 to 1 agst Lord Chesterfield's Newsmonger—take 25
30" to 1 agst Mr. Gully's Weatherbit—taken
35 to 1 agst Mr. Gully's Old England—t. and aft. off.
35 to I agst Duke of Richmond's Laird o'Cockpen—
taken and afterwards offered
40 to 1 agst Mr. Lintott's Cabin Boy—t. and aft. off.
50 to 1 agst Mr. Ford's Fuzbos—taken and aft. offered.
OAKS.

16 to 1 agst Lord Chesterfield's Lady Wildair—taken
Epsom SPRLNQ RACES.—As many persons are under an
impression that these races will take place this week, we are
requested to repeat that they are postponed until Friday, the
25th instant.
ATCAR COURSING MRETING.—The Sefton Cup was won
by Mr. Parry's Punch ; the Molyneux Plate by Mr. Robin-
son's Scotia ; the Croxteth Purse by Mr. Ball's Breeze ; the
Atcar Stakes by Mr. Ball's Baron; and the West Derby
Stakes by Mr. Ball's Burgundy.

ADJOURNED GENERAL LICENS

IN G MEETING FOR THE CITY.
Yesterday the adjourned licensing meeting for the
City of London was held at Guildhall, for the granting
licenses to new houses. The Lord Mayor in the chair.
Aldermen Sir John Pirie, Sir P. Lurie, Farncombe,
Hooper, Challis, Hughes, and Moon. Several licenses
were renewed to persons who had forfeited them by non-
attendance in proper time at the last Court, and they
were admonished to be more careful in future. The
following new licenses were then applied for:—
For the White Bear, Bishopsgate street, re-opened--
granted.
For the Dark House, Darkhouse-lane, Thames-street,
for removal of the license to a house in Thames-street.
Mr. Clarkson opposed it on behalf of the rector, church-
wardens, and inhabitants, on the ground that the Dark
House was a night house for the accommodation of the
fishermen coming up with the boats and persons at-
tending the market, and that the removal would create a
great nuisance.—Application refused.
For Grady's Coffee-house, 34, Btv:klersbury, second
application.—Granted.
For Careless's Coffee- house, Finch-lane.—Refused.
For a new house the corner of New Farringdon-street
—Refused, there being twenty-two licensed houses in
the.immediate
IMPOIITANT CASE.—By Ralph Fellowes, for a license
to a new house, the corner of Bride-lane. The
acplicant is also the occupier of the Crown, in Fleet-
street.

The application was supported by the parochial au-
thorities of St. Bride's and several licensed victuallers.
Sir PETER LAURIE said he had seen the house, and
should support the application, as he considered it was
much more to the public interest to have houses in a
public place than up courts and alleys.
Mr. CLARKSON said that the applicant had been in-
solvent three times within seven years, and had once
been remanded for six months, and agqin for eight
months. This being proved,
Sir PETER LAURIE said, he should, under such cir-
cumstances, refuse his consent, and vote against the man,
though not against the house.

The original license to the Crown, which stands up a
eourt„ was granted to the application, but the extension
refused.

DEATH OF TFIE EARL OF ROMNEY.—The Ear
of Romney died on Saturday afternoon, at his Lordship's
seat Mote, near Maidstone, in the 68th year of his age. On
Thursday evening he was visited by a paralytic stroke,
which, from its violence, left little hope of recovery. Dr.
Hawkins was immediately sent for from town, and hastened
with all dispatch to the relief of his noble patient ; but skill
was unavailing ; the Noble Lord gradually sunk and expired,
as stated, on Saturday afternoon. The Noble Earl is suc-
ceeded in his title and estates by Viscount Marsham (now
Earl of Romney;, Member for West Kent. In politics the
deceased was a moderate constitutional Whig, but of late
years he rarely interfered with political matters. The pre-
sent Earl was elected a Member of the House of Commons
for the western division of Kent, at the last election, on the
Conservative interest. His Lordship married, in February,
1832, Lady Margaret Harriet Scott, sister of the Duke of
Buccleuch, and has issue.

THE BLACK EAGLE STEAM-VESSEL.—This fine
vessel has been taken alongside the wharf wall of the basin
at Woolwich dock. yard, and her leaks temporarily repaired,
until she can be taken into one of the docks, which are all
at present full. At the time of the accident, on Friday night,
it was so dark that the description of vessel which caused
the injury could not be correctly ascertained, some being
of opinion that the vessel was a brig, and others that she was
a ship of a large class, and the latter is the most probable
supposition, owing to the height of her bows out of the
o
water,
as she nearly ran over the Black Eagle, which had
at n
period water nearly knee-deep on the stern end of
her
,teeck. The officerskn
'cers and crew of the Black Eagle have no oviein a thel
vessel or parties on board the ship which
caused ttie injury
the steam,e4li
board her, as Th'altititsin
lie supposes, t, .to
.ga on bard the ship was frustrated, as
sad the attempt of one of the crew of
back into the Black i.
the rope by which he attempted to
stance that the liliieviiiii
e only way he can account for falling
It was a most fortunate circum-
not take place a few feet more
forward ; the en
and the parties on board been liable to sustain in-
jury,accide did net remain to ascer*e vessel
ptptlent of the injury sus-
quired of them. On looking at tiine
herra irprising that the
which caused the
sinking, espe-
if any aid would be re-
that object
tamed by the Black Eagle, it a
•
ei,o4nvincing
' officers and crew were able to keep
cially in a dark night ; but their accomplZ
and navigating her round to Woolwich, affo.rnaga
proof of their excellent knowledge of the coast a
as seamen. Some idea may be formed of the force ofab,,ilin3
lision when it is stated that the strong oak ribs of herti frame
were completely broken through, and the strong oak
fraZO
supporting the cross-beams between the side and chief cabin
window were completely separated into two and driven in
different directions. The beautiful mahogany panels and
gold mouldings inside have been destroyed, and several
planks of the floor of the principal cabin considerably sunk.
The deck appears to have been put together in a remarkably
strong manner, as it is not much displaced, the greatest in-
jury being where the ship had literally cut through the solid
wood. It will take sometime to repair the damage sustained
by the Black Eagle, and this is to be regretted, as the vessel
was destined to have the honour of embarking her Majesty
at the port where the royal yacht is stationed.

RAIL WAY INTELLIGENCE.
LONDON AND YORK.-LINCOLN COUNTY

MEETING.
LINCOLN, SATURDAY.—On Friday, at noon, a public
meeting was held here, in the Castle-yard, pursuant to a
requisition addressed to the High Sheriff; to take into
consideration the various railway schemes affecting the
county of Lincoln. At twelve o'clock the gates of the
Castle-yard were thrown open, and the crowd which
thronged the Castle-hill rushed into the yard, spacious
hustings being erected in front of the Court-house,
formed of several viaggons with heavy timbers laid
across. The excitement during the day was consider-
able. In the course of a few minutes Thomas Coltman,
Esq., of Hagnaby Priory, the High Sheriff (with the
Under-Sheriff, Henry Williams, Esq.), took the chair.
On the hustings appeared Earl Fitzwilliarn, Earl of
Winchilsea and Nottingham, Lord Viscount Worsley,
M.P., the Hon. William Ashley, the Hon. Alexander
Leslie Melville, Sir John Trollope, Bart., M.P., Sir M.
John Cholmeley, Bart., H. A. Christopher, Esq., M.P.,
Edward Heneage, Esq., M.P., General Johnson, and a
number of the leading gentry of the county. The Cam-
bridge and Lincoln, with the Direct Northern advocates,
arranged themselves on the right hand of the hustings;
and the London and York on the left. Not fewer than
ten thousand persons were present at the commence-
ment, and at least fifteen thousand towards the close of
the proceedings. The requisition having been read over,
the High Sheriff asked a candid and impartial hearing
for all parties.

General JOHNSON observed that he saw many persons
present who had no connexion with the county, and he
trusted that no strangers would be allowed to address
the meeting.—(Cheers.)
The HIGH SHERIFF sanctioned this arrangement.
C. J. PACK, Esq., in proposing the first resolution,
observed that at present Lincolnshire was without rail- '
ay communication to the metropolis, and to the manu-
facturing districts, and it often happened, as during the
late winter, that they were greatly distressed for coal.
During the last twelve months he had been diligently
inquiring which would be the best and most useful line
of railway communication for Lincolnshire, and he had
come to the conclusion that that line which would con-
nect nearly all the market towns in the county must be
the best. The report of the Board of Trade said that
the London and York line would probably cost ten mil-
lions, but he was assured that it might and would be
constructed for considerably less than eight. It was not
as it regarded the south communication only, but the
north and east, and the extensive grazing districts, that
they ought to consider this subject. He concluded by
reading the first resolution, which was to the effect,
" That the meeting approved of the proposed London
and York, as the best fur the interests of the county of
Lincoln."—(Loud cries and uproar, mixed with cheers,
" Bribery, bribery," " Half-a-crown a day," &c.)
WESTON CRACROFT, Esq., in seconding the resolution,
said, that however adverse the_Board of Trade were to
the London and York scheme, still they were compelled
to admit that it was a grand and comprehensive scheme.
(A Voice : A scheme to hire men, at two shillings a
head, to hold up their hands for you.) This railway
would connect this extensive agricultural county with
the great manufacturing districts, and it was far more
important to get a good market for their produce than
merely connecting the county with London.
The Earl of WINCHILSEA was loudly greeted on step-
ping forward, and some slight disapprobation was mani-
fested by the advocates of the Landon and York. In
moving a resolution of a counter character to that they
had just heard, he assured the meeting that it was with
great regret he found himself opposed to so many gen-
tlemen with whom he was usually in the habit of acting
in public matters, but no man felt more deeply than
himself the high benefit that railway communication
would confer on this county, not only connecting it with
the metropolis, but in affording a scheme for all its
productions being conveyed to the best markets. He
had considered this great question entirely uninfluenced
by motives of a private character ; he had no interest in
either projected line ; he was no shareholder, and
therefore his judgment could not be biassed by any con-
sideration of gain, and he sincerely believed, that the
Cambridge and Lincolnshire would afford that desired
object. He had been most anxious that a
different line to the London and Birmingham should be
made, affording a more direct communication to the
north ; and he had hitherto been favourable to the
London and York line, as affording that communication,
but since reading the report of the Board of Trade, he
must confess that his views had changed, and he was
convinced by that able document that the line by
Cambridge was the best for the Eastern Counties ge-
nerally, and the most desirable for this county in par-
ticular, especially when it was considered that the gra-
dients would be the best of any line in England. It
was not as it regarded Lincolnshire alone, but the
country at large, that he thought this line should be
constructed. It would be carried into effect at a much
lower rate of cost, and, in the opinion of scientific men,
would be made in one-half the time that the other line
would. Then there was the new terminus, which was
to be made in Farringdon-street ; it was the best for
the agricultural interests, being nearest to Smithfield ;
it was the most favourably situated for access to the
bonding warehouses, to the Custom-house, the Bank,
the Post-office, and for every other public office which
concerned the interests of agriculture and of commerce.
Ile fully coincided in the views taken by the Board of
Trade in their report, as most sound and judicious, and
therefore, he would move that this meeting do approve
of the various railway projects affecting Lincolnshire,
which were recommended by the Board of Trade in
their report of the 20th of March.
General JOHNSON said, that in seconding the motion,
lie was quite as disinterested as the Noble Mover, neither
project touching an acre of his land, nor had he shares
in any railway whatever. If his own private conve-
nience were consulted, he should give the preference to
the London and York, as it passed two miles nearer to
his residence than the Cambridge and Lincoln ; but he
w..s satisfied that the latter line, with its continuance by
the Direct Northern to York, would be the best. He
hoped every man would take the trouble to read the re-
port made by the Board of Trade, anti judge for himself;
it might not be very palatable to some of those gentle.
men on the other side, who recommended the London
and York, but he defied them, with their utmost inge-
nuity, to prove that it was unfair or partial. He was
no friend to monopoly. The London and Birming-
ham line was a great monopoly : and so would
the London and York be if it ever were constructed.
He had seen the resolutions of a meeting of the citi-
zens of Lincoln, where above a thousand of them
had, on Wednesday evening, unanimously decided
that the Cambridge and Lincoln was the best, and he
hoped the country would come to the same decision. He
was anxious for cheap travelling, for cheap coals, and for
getting their corn to market cheap. Now, if one con-
cern laid out eight millions, and the other only five, in
constructing a series of railways, it was quite clear that
those expending the five millions would be best able to
' afford them cheap travelling, cheap coal, and to take
their corn cheap. There was another consideration.
The cheap line could be made in two years, whilst the
other, if ever made at all, could not be made under eight
years.—(" Oh, oh !") The London and Birmingham
line professed to have everything finished in two years
and a half, and at a cost of three millions and a half; but
they were five years before ever they started a train, and
had expended above seven millions. The same would be
the case with the London and York at its southern ex-

tretnity, if even it were begun. The terminus of the
line from Cambridge to London would be within a
quarter of a mile of Smithfield, whilst the other, at King's-
cross, would be two miles off, and that was of high im..
purtance to the agriculturists. If men would but look
candidly into the matter, they would be convinced that
the line by Cambridge would be the best for Lincoln-
shire, and he believed all the county thought so, except
those personally interested to the contrary. He con-
cluded by seconding the amendment moved by the Noble
Lord.

E. BECKETT DENISON, Esq., M.P., at great length
argued in favour of the London and York scheme, which

h;said was the shortest by ten miles to York ; it would
be constructed in its entirety in 237 miles, whilst the
Board of Trade scheme was 359 miles. The correspond-
ing parts of the Direct Northern and Cambridge would
cost 5,380,000!., whilst the. Lincoln and York line would
h:‘ made for 4,720,000/. ; they would carry coals at id.
per tun per mile, and the others would charge id. So far
from the Farringdon Junction being made for 800,000!.,
he was assured it would cost above two millions.

Mr. JOHN COUPLAND, of Lincoln, said he was one of a
mercantile firm, which consumed as much coal as a dozen
parishes, and they paid 15,0001. a year in freights.
Cheap coals and carriage were important to them, and
he was convinced that th Cambridge was that cheap line
the county required. It would be constructed in two
years, whilst it would take eight or ten years to make
the London and York.
Earl FITZWILLIAM again spoke in favour of the Cam-
bridge line, as the best and cheapest for the conveyance
of the agricultural produce from the south of the county
to London ; the " loop," as it was called, would not
serve the interests of the middle of the county, which
would be shut up from the benefits of railways as com-
pletely as the meeting was enclosed within the Castle
walls.
The question was put, and the show of hands was
taken on either side a second time ; the numbers were
so evenly balanced, that the High Sheriff had to call for
a division.
At length each party having divided, one to the north,
and the other to the south, he decided that the majority
was in favour of the London and York line.
T. G. CORBETT, Esq., moved, and J. C. 11. ANDER
soN, Ebq., seconded, a resolution in favour of the Grimsby
and Gainsborough Railway, which was carried by a
large majority.
Sir MONTAOUE JOHN CHOLMELEY, Bart., amidst much
tumult, moved a petition, which was seconded by T.
GEE, Esq., cf Boston.
On the show of hands, they were again so nearly
equal that the High Sheriff was doubtful, but declared
the motion cart ied.
On the motion of Lord WoRSLEY, M.l'., seconded by
It. A. CHRISTOPHER, Esq., M.P., thanks were voted to
the High Sheriff, who briefly acknowledged the com-
pliment, and tho meeting broke up.