The Sun.
London, England, 1842-04-09 00:00:00

IMPRISONMENT FOR DEBT.

Lord CAMPBELL presented a petition from a priso-
ner in the Queen's Bench Prison, against imprisonment
fur debt.

MARRIAGES (IRELAND).
Lord WHARNCLIFFE presented a petition, praying
for an alteration in the marriage law of Ireland.
CHURCH EDUCATION SOCIETY.

The Marquis of DOWNSHIRE presented several pe-
titions from places in the county of Down, and elso •
where, praying their Lordships to make a grant in favour
of the Church Education Society.
SEVERN NAVIGATION BILL.

A NOBLE LORD presented a petition from Stafford in
favour of the Bill fur the improvement of the River
Severn.

CORN IMPORTATION BILL

In answer to a question from Lord BROUGIIAM,

The Earl of RIPON stated that it was not his inten-
tion to move the second reading of this Bill sooner than►
this day week.
Lord BROUGHAM wished to know if it was intended,
by the introduction of the new towns, to raise or lower
the averages.

Earl RIPON said that he did not anticipate it would
have any effect one way or the other.
CHURCH EXTENSION.

INQUEST ON 'TIE BODY.
Yesterday, at twelve o'clock, Mr. Carter, the Coroner for tin
Eastern Division of Surrey, and a Jury of 17 inhabitants of the
parish .of Putney, assembled at the Angel Inn, Roehampton, to
investigate the circumstances connected with the death of a
female unkuown. whose trunk and mutilated .emains were dis-
covered in the stable adjoining the mansion, and belonging e,
Qurlez Shiell, Esq., of Putney Park-'ane.
The mot iutense interest prevailed dutotg the proceedings,
and the jury having been swo n, proceeded to view the remains
of the body. It was the tn. re trunk, divested of arms, legs,
"and head, urither of which could be found. On searching the
harness-room, however, it was quite c:ear that the remainder of
the body had been burned, for a potion of a jaw-bone, and the
ashes of human bones, was found amongst the tinders of the
fire--21ace. On the return of the jury the esidence was entered
into as follows :
• • William Gardner, police constable 279 V, :vas ii st sworn.
He said on Wednesday night la•t, the Rh of April, about a
quarter to nine o'clock, 1 was on <lnv in High-site-et, Wand,-
worth, when, from information 1 received from Mr. Cohn-
borne, of Ilizh-street, pawnlroker, I went with two lads to the
house of Mr. Quclez Shiell, Putney Park-lane, in the parish of
Putney. The names of the lads no re Robert Speed and Sa-
muel Smith Dagnall. On sr. icing there I tang the bell, aed
the footman XIISW4 red it. I inquired of the loatman if the
coachman had cone home. Ile said No; hut direited me
doe nes the stables, Si) ice; he mCgiit be there. The staid s
are about two hundred putts from ti c house. I desired the lad
Speed to ring the ; i 11. lie tilt! so, a d the coachman came
to the gate. The lid asked it the coachman hail come hem o
and the person said, "I am the coachman." I then went up
to the man, and told hint I had come to take him into custody
of a charge of stvallng a pair el !lack trousers, wh;ch wan
my only object in going there. Tee man said... Yes. I bought
a pair of breeches from %Ir. Celinborne, and I did nut pay hint
fix them." He pulled out his purse, and wished me to take
back the money for the breeches. I told hits I would not take
the money ; the breeches had nothing to do with the charge of
gilding trousers. Ile thee said, "Oh very well ; 1 will go to
Wet cis: meth, anti sett's with Mr. Colinberne. I asked him if he
would allow me to look over the chaise and stables. He made
no objection, but said •• Yes." I went f: on* the lane where I was
standing, accompanied by Speed and Dagnall, and the coach-
man %eta 'With on and, pointed me out the eha'se. house anti
sitaolei e 1 searched the chaise which was outside, then the
eltaiareetteessr, and front these I went to the liarriese-resin
tot-
joinieg.,thestable, and from thence to the stable. When; I was
aboutarnteriug the staf.le the coachman said "No, no; let us
go to Wandsworth and make it all right." I re, lied "No, 1
mill not until I.ltave searched the stable," as 1 had not then
found, the trowsers. Before I got into the stable a Iverson came COLLEGE OF MAYNOOTH.
up, whom I understood to eo Mr. fioughton,•Mr. Shiers gar- I
Mr. HARDY presented petitions from Bridport, Sails
dener. He asked me what was the matter, and I told him the
places in Sussex, Buckinghamshire, Essex, and
ohjectof my visit. I then went into the stable accompanied by bury,
the two halls and Mr. Houghton, the coachman, and a child numerous other places, against any further grant to the
about ten or eleven year, of age. The door of the stable I fOund Colleze of May n ooth.
open. I desired the lad Speed to stand by the coachman Major CUMMING BRUCE presented a similar
while I made the search. I searched the first and 1 etitiun from the town of Elgin, signed by 125 persons.
second stall from the door, and then proceeded to the THE TARIFF.
corn blow on the left of the . doorway. I. had 'The HON. MEMBER then presented a petition nume-
searched two of the binna, when the coachman said Let us rously signed from the landowners of Forfar, in Scotland,
go to Wandsworth and have it settled, and appeared very anxi- praying that any duty imposed on cured meat might be
ous. I again said I would nut until I had made a diligent such as to afford them sufficient protection, 'a hich they
search. After this conversation I searched one more binu, and
while searching that, the coachman went to the lower stall—the conceived the proposed tariff would not affbrd.
fourth in the row—in which there was a quantity of hay. 1 THE INCOME TAX.
went after him, and saw him move some hay front one side of The HON. MEMBER concluded by presenting another
the stall to the other, and nuder the window. I made a re- petition, numerously signed, from the landowers of For-
mark, that I did no want his assistance, and the lad Dagnall tarshire, regarding the mode in which it was proposed to
was holding my lamp whilst I began to move a portion assess the income of tenants occupying land in Scotland,
of the-hay that 1 bad seen the coachman move. I moved trio praying that in the assessments they might be placed on
trusses, and under it I felled some loose hay which I moved a footing with the holders of land in England.
with my foot. I then observed something lying under it, Mr. PROTHEROE presented a petition from Halifax,
and? I moved the hay with my hand, and said to the lad, deprecating the proposed reduction of the duty on fo-
Dagnill, " What is this ?—here's a goose !" Dagnall drew
'lose towards it, and the lad, Speed, also, and the same moment. reign manufactured boots and shoes.
Speed came towards us, the coachman rushed out of the stable Mr. GORDON presented a petition from Aberdeenin the duty on foreign
door,.pulled it utter him, and locked it on the outside. I against the proposed reduction
said:: now we are done,"meaning he had escaped from beingmy cattle.
prisoner for stealing the trowsers. We all ran to the door, The Marquis of GRANBY presented a petition to the
anti the lad Speed and myself took up a hay fork and coin- same effect.
meneed prysing the door. I left him doing so and went back to Mr. GREGORY presented a petition from Galway,
the stall to see what that really was tinder the hay, and the two praying for a system of scriptural education in Ireland.
lads came also. Pack of us passed some remarks as to what it 31r.PLUMPTRE presented a petition from the Fruit-
wa,, and the lad Darien exclaimed, " Why it's a human growers' Association of East Kent, against any reduction
being." Speed said-Oh,- nonsense, and stooped down and in the duty on foreign fruit.
t tined it over, and then we saw that it was the portion of a
body or trunk of a female. We ieturned to the door and suc-
Lord F. EGERTON presented a petition from West
ceeded in getting it open with the fork about a Derby, near Liverpool, praying that further powers
quarter of an lunar alter the escape of the coach- might be given by law to the overseers of parishes relas
man. I told the lad Digliall to nut down the lime towards the to the reputed fathers of illegitimate children. Also,
Wau:tosortli, and tell every policeman what had happened, anti a petition from 4,000 persons of Bury in favour of the
give the coachman's description, and also to do so at Wands- commercial policy of her Majesty's Government.
worth station-house ; and he left for that purpose, whilst I and Mr. ATTWOOD presented a petition, praying for an
the others remained where we %Y. re at the stable. I remained equalisation of the duty on timber between this county
about twenty minutes, when constable 192 V, cline up, and I and the Isle of Man (as we understood). y
despatched him to Putney to give information. About half an Mr. MITCHELL presented a petition, praying for an
hour after, police constable Tighe, 199, arrived, and I despatched alteration in regulating seamen's wages.
him to Wandsworth to give information to Superintendent
Bicknell with a full description of the coachman's dress. The 11Ir.HUTT presented a petition from Hull against
Superintendent, Mr. Inspector Buseain, and a medical man, ar-
the proposals of her Majesty's Government with respect
rived in about half an hour. Afte- we had found the body, Mr. to the tariff.
Houghton's son came down to the stable. We gave him in-
formation that something strange had been found, and he ap-
peared much alarmed, and said he would stay in the house. I
do not think he knew the body was concealed there. He
went to see it in the stall, and exclaimed " What a wretch
he must be to do such a deed," meaning the coachman. The
trunk was lying on its front when the boy Speed turned it over.
1 then knew it to be a woman by its breasts. The arms were
cut off close to the sockets. The legs were severed at the hips.
The head at the lower part of the neck, and the entrails, had
been taken out, the stomach being cut open. I searched but
could not discover the other parts of tile body, but I have since
seen, that which is described to have been a portion of thebody.
14 the CoaoNea—Mr. Houghton's son said it was dan-
gerous to sleep in the house. He might be murdered. We
believed that the conduct of the coachman in running away
anti locking ns in in the manner he did, showed that he was
the-murderer, and had placed the body where it was found.
After the Superintendent came, I and Sergeant Palmer again
seattehed the stable, but did not find the stolen trousers ; but
in the third stall, which I had not previously searched, we found
a Traitress under some trusses of straw, with two blankets rolled
up .inside of it. There were some stains on the mattress, but
I cannot say if it was Wood. It looked more like urinal stains.
The body, as it has been viewed this day by the Jury, is in the
position.we found it. with the exception of being turned over
witla the head part towards the manger of the stal. There
was straw under the body which was stained with blood, but
not to any great extent,
By a Juror—l saw the coachman's clothes hanging up in the
harness-room, but I did not minutely examine them. The
coachman made no observation when he rushed out cf the stable.
Robert Speed examined—l am shopman to a grocer iu High.
street, Wandsworth, About half-past eight o'clock Mr. Colin-
borne, the pawnbroker, came and asked ino to go with his boy
in search of a man at the house of Mr. Shiell, of Putney Park-
lane, who had taken a pair of trowsers that did not belong to
him. I went to Mr. Shiell's premises. We gest saw a female,
anti then a boy, who told us where to go to find the coachman.
We rang the bell, and a female came to the gate, accompanied
by the coachman we were in search of.—The witness here de-
m.: 'bed what passed, and the discovery of the remains of the
murdered woman.—After the examination of several other
witnesses the inquest was adjourned till Tuesday.

The Bishop of DERRY presented a petition from
Longfield in the county of Tyrone, Ireland, in favour
of Church Extension.

The Ecclesiastical Leases' Bill passed through Com-
mittee, and was reported.

The Beele3iastreal Corporation Bill went throaEh
Committee, and was reported.
Their Lordshipi then adjourned to Monday.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, APRIL 8.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour.
STANIIOI>E AND TYNE RAILWAY.

Mr. LII)I)ELL moved the third reading of the Stan-
hope and Tyne Railroad Bill.
Mr. CURTER.; moved that the Bill be read a third
time this day six months. He contended that the parties
should have sought to attain the object which they had
in view by applying to a Court of Equity. He had no
ntcrest whatever in the matter, and it was on prin-
ciple that he opposed the Bill.

No Hon. Ah;xiiber having seconded the amendment,
the Bill v 4 as read n third time and passed.
The Forth and Clyde Navigation Bill ; the Glasgow
Police (No. 3) Bill ; and the City of Glasgow Life As-
surance and Rev ersionary Company Bill, were each read
a second time.

HAWKERS' LICENSES.

Sir G. STRICKLAND presented—: petition from
certain inhabitants of Durham, being hawkers, com-
plaining of the tax upon their licenses, and of the regu-
lations connected therewith, whereby they were much
harassed and oppressed. The Honourable Baronet pre-
sented also six petitions for the repeal of the Corn-laws.
The designation of the petitioners was not heard in the
gallery.

. ELECTION CoiviiiiiTEES.
.WIGAN.
The Committee met at Eleven o'clock.
ti he vote ofJohn Ceterall was retained on thepetitiofner's poll.
tt Mr. HunrAo then said that, in consequence
rest-
lotions to which the Committee had come, he would
~,t'!
priiilege to place Mr., Crosse at the head of the poll,
anadrveeareritsi
ui.i.`,,n Counsel for the petttionets to place Mr. Standish andt
Mi,,... prilifell, it they intended so to do, above Mr. Gree„all
the,)tig's.st on the po'l of the sitting, Members.
r., AusiENt said -that the usual i settee was that the
sitting_ Member, when !laced
_lowest cn the poll. should seek to
re7-ettablish skis position on it, and that it Mr. 11ihiyard
d.cf :riot mein to place Mr. Crosse in his position at the head of
thi poi% he should withdraw him altogether.
The room was cleared, and on our entering, the Chairman
sea that the Committee decided that the scrutiny on the part
oflhe petition, -s should be proceeded wish.
Joint Warrii4gton was then objected lo by the Counsel for the
~. .
yew toners nit the grouud of change of oco.patico•
'I he vote ofJohn Warringt n teas retained.
stualph Woodcock, objected to on the et0t11:(1 9f removal, was
ck off the po:1 of the sitting Members,
seph Walsh was ne t objected to by counsel for the peti-
tioners, Ott the same ground, but it being announced 'hat the

Mr. PALMER supported the amendment for the ad-
journment of the debate on the petition.
Sir R. INGLIS said the Hon. Member for Finsbury
might have carried his motion by an assault, but at pre-
sent every moment that the debate was prolonged, his
chances of success were vanishing. He must allow
that the debate had not been prolonged by this
side of the House, if the Honourable and
Learned Member for Dublin had abstained even
from his two minute speech, he might have secured
the success of the Hon. Member's motion. But he (Sir
R. Inglis) contended on principle that the decision of
the House on one day, ought net to be set aside without
notice ; the Hon. Member ought to have given notice of
his intention to present such a petition, then the whole
question might have been re-argued, and no one would
have any right to complain of the course taken.
But having ascertained what the decision of the House
was on the point, he ought not to have raised the ques-
tion, when nine out of every ten Members only expected
the ordinary presentation of petitions. He should there-
fore vote for the adjournment, trusting that by this time,
by the assistance of the Hon. Member for Durham, the
object of the Hon. Member for Finsbury was effectually
frustrated.
Captain PECHELL said the Hon. Member for the
University of Oxford spoke as if his Hon. Friend had had
the petition in his pocket for a fortnight. If he had only
received it that morning, how could he give such notice?
He hoped he would persist in dividing the House ; it
might happen that he should follow the same course with
the petition he held in his hand. The Hon. and
Gallant Member for Lincoln had endeavoured to lead
the House astray by putting the motion as a want of
courtesy to the Speaker. He was perfectly satisfied that
this was not the case.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL hoped the Honourable
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE
CUSTOMS' DUTIES.. •
resented two petitions from Member would not press the motion. They were not to
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bodies of journeymen corners, discuss whether the practice were a wise one or not,
against the reduction of but it certainly had been the practice for a number of years
the tax upon foreign curried leather, and the tax
not to receive petitions presented under such circumstances.
upon . the importation of 'Ants and shoes. He Last night the Hon. Member for Finsbury, after having
also presented a petition from the straw-plait given notice of his intention upon the subject, moved
manufacturers of the county of Suffolk against the that the practice of the House relative to the reception
reduction of the duty on foreign plaited straw. of petitions shOtild be discontinued. He admitted that it
—(Cries of " Hear, hear," and great laughter on the was perfectly open to the Honourable Member to pursue
Tory benches.)
such a course, and to call in question the former
THE RIGHT OF PETITION. . usage of the House. But after the House had Mr. T. T. DUNCOMBE then said he had another peti- tided upon that motion it was not fair of the Hon.
tion to present from the members of trades and pro- Member to bring forward on &succeeding evening the same
fessions in the metropolis ; the name, profession, and question without having given any previous notice of his
residence of each person was appended to his signature, intention ; such a course, if acceded to by the House,
and the number of signatures, altogether was 380. would lead to very inconvenient consequences, inasmuch
(Hear, hear.) The petitioners stated their reasons why as all the proceedings of that House were regulated by
this House ought not to agree to a Bill imposing a tax precedents, and by former practices. It was manifestly
on income, which was, under all circumstances, neces- inadvisable that the decision of the House upon a right
sarily unequal, oppressive, and unconstitutional.— should be reversed the succeeding night, while the House
(Hear, hear.) But they further stated their reasons why, was not prepared for discussion upon the subject. He
if the House consented at all to such an imposition, hoped, therefore, that the Hon. Member fur Finsbury
it ought not to be fixed for three years, as its continu- would not now persevere in his motion.
mince for so long a time would secure its re-enactment for Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that he was one of
a longer period; and they prayed that the House would those Members who were not aware that his Hon. Friend
not pass the Bill under its consideration. He said, " Sir, meant to propose that the petition should be brought up
I will now move that this petition be brought up"— that evening. He agreed with his lion. and Learned
(Hear)—and he was proceeding towards the bar when Friend In thinking that it would be very inconvenient—
The SPEAKER called out " Order, order," and said
that the lion. Member was aware that it was the usage practice—that -it would be very inconvenient
' without taking into consideration this particular
and rule of the House not to receive petitions against a with regard to the general usage and forms tax or duty, which was tinder the consideration Of that of the House, that a motion that ha& been rejected
House ; and, yesterday, on a motion brought forward
by the Hon. Member himself, the House had decided after due notice, should be again brought forward when
many Members of the House were not aware that the
that the rule should not be discontinued.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE—Sir, with every respect for subject was to be again considered.—(Hear, hear.) He
thought it was not only quite competent, but that ;it
the order which which you have just laid own, I think would be quite reasonable on the part of his Hon.
it is in the power of . this House to accept or reject any Friend to bring the question again before the
petition, as it may think proper.—(Cheers.) • There
House. It appeared to him, that the, fact of a
is no rule or order which can prevent the Rouse pm actice having prevailed nir one hundred and fifty years
from receiving the petitions of the people MIA a sufficient ground for the Muse to reject a motion
at any time.—(Cheers.) But I admit that the resolution for its reversal on its being first proposed. But the
which I yesterdt!,y proposed, and which was, " That
,the house might no doubt again consider the reasons upon
practice of this Himse, which precludes the presentation
think it advisable to do so. He understood that the that practice stood, and repeal it if they should
thick
of petitions upon the subject of any tax or duty under its I
consideration, be discontinued," was, by a very narrow lion. Member for Surrey had moved that the debate
should be adjourned until Monday, and he hoped his
majority, at the instance of her Majesty's Government, 1
Hon. Friend would accede to that proposal.—(Hear,
certainly rejecteil.—(Hear, hear, hear, from the Tories,
responded to by cheers from the Opposition-) But there I
is no rule or standing-order which makes it im Pe hear.) He believed that it would be in the power of his
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Hon. Friend to bring on the question at an early hour
,
on the House to reject any petitions.—(Hear, hear.) If
on Monday, and the House would then have an oppor-
,
there were any such rule or order, I would be the last to tunity of reconsidering the matter.
fly in the face of it. But as it is only a practice, I Mr. AGLIONBY said he concurred in the reeommeiji-
an obsolete, absurd, and cobweb practice—(Cheers and dation of the Hon. and Learned Solicitor-General, though
laughter)—which has been departed from in various in- not upon the same ground ;he concurred in it not from
stances ; and as it has been clearly proved that the a-my regard for the practice of the House, but because he