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where, If theta was a railway communication, this inferior fuel
would be superseded by coals. There were great quantities of
lime in the beigbourhood of Stirling, which was extt r•eively tis-ci
in manure and building payees, and thee. consumption would
be increased if the line were made. He had carefully examined _er.
Mitchell's tables of the traffic, and considered they were con.
strutted on sound pi ineipies, sled the results were quite within
the proper limits. 7 here were a few items omitted to be named
in Mr. Mitchell's ststeieenr. viz , slates and potatoes, in which
latter there was a considerable trade from the northern districts to
the Glasgow market, and in the former from Dunkeld: The want of
a thorough drainege was greatly felt in the neighbourhood all
about Strathern, and it would be an inestimable advantage if
draining tiles could be brought by railway into the locality. The
income to be derived from the carriage of tiles alone would amount
to full 700/. or SOO/. He had calculated the value of the land and
houses to be taken for the purposes of the railway, in conjunction
with Mr. Thorns and Mr. arliinnon, and the result showed an
amount of 73,4441., which being added to the sum set apart fcr
stations, &c., would give a total of 80,000/.
This witness was subjected to cross-examination, but his evi-
dence remained unaltered.
Mr. TALBOT called Mr. Errington, the engineer, to ask an im-
portant question which had been omitted in his examination of
yesterday. He wished to know what was the calculation of the
work ng expenses of the proposed line ?
Mr. Errington, in reply, stated that the working expenses would
be rather less than 40 per cent.
Mr. CLARK then rose and said he appeared to support a petition
from the inhabitants of Perth against the construction of the
Scottish Central Railway. Thepetition was very numerously signed,
and was the general expression of the views entertained by the
middling classes of Perth on the erection of a station on the
South Inch. The South Inch was a large space of ground situated
on the west side of Perth, and was a place of great resort for the
people residing in the city and its neighbourhood. It was a
beautiful spot, ornamented with avenues If trees, with a river
meandering by its side, and well indeed warranted the allusion of
a Noble Lord in the House of Peers the other night, who, on pre.
eenting a petition against the construction of the proposed station,
introduced the emphatic exclamation of a Roman general, on ilia
viewing a lovely landscape, " Ecce Campus Martius." It was this
place, the beauty of which the railway company contemplated de-
stroying, by erecting unsightly stations, and laying down
iron rails along the whole length of its southern side.
The game of golf and other exercises, which tended so considerably
to the healthful recreation and pleasure of the people of Perth,
had been played on this spot from time immemorial ; in addi-
tion to this it had been habitually used as a drying ground
ever since the city of Perth had existed ; part of the southern
portion was also converted into a market for cattle ; and
the approximation of the locality to the city conduced in a very
considerable degree to the recreation, convenience, and business
of the inhabitants. If the proposed station were erected all
these advantages would be materially interfered with ; and he
therefore trusted that on these grounds the Committee would not
permit the preamble of the Bill to pass.
Mr. CLARK then called Mr. Chalmers, land-surveyor at Perth,
who said that as far as his knowledge went the feelings of the
inhabitants were strongly against a station being made on the
South Inch, and that a terminus at the western part of the town
would be quite as convenient for the shipping.
The CHAIRMAN then said that the Committee had deemed it ad.
isable to consult Mr. Fox Maule, the Member for Perth, who,
from his general knowledge of the city would be able to give every
information as to the propriety of erecting a station on the South
Inch, and as the Right Hon Gentleman was now in the room, he
would, perhaps, favour the Committee with his opinion ; but he was
not to be submitted to any examination, as he appeared only in the
capacity of an anz-kus.
Mr. Fox Maule said that from the position which he held in
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bet bestso lewoheaatliitny fur thevidi}ousin him to se), that either
way
proposed station. He
could however have no difficulty in distinctly stating as his opi-
nion that that portion of the Inch which had been pointed out to
him was most conveniently situated for the trade of Perth.
From the small quantity of land which would be cccupied by the
station, he considered that the recreation of the inhabi.
tants would not be interfered with. The amusements
of golf, &c., are usually carried on on the northern extremity of the
Inch, and the southern portion has been used as a drying ground.
The part which was intended to be occupied as a central station
had been used only as a cattle market. One general station would
be most convenient for the public; but the confluence of several
stations would be still compatible with the recreation of the
inhabitants. He would decline giving any opinion as to
the eligibility of erecting a terminus on Use west of
Perth. The present locus of the station wouM not materially
.nterfere with the interests or pleasure of the people, and lie had
presented a petition from classes whom he considered represented
the general fei hug of the inhabitants, in favour of the scheme now
before the Committee.
Mr. CLARK then called Mr. Stephenson, engineer to the Harbour
Commissioners of Perth, but he could give no opinion as to the
poticy of removing the station from its present proposed site, as lie
had not thoroughly considered the matter.
This witness was cross•examined by Mr. TALBOT, but nothing
of any interest was elicited.
Sir John Richardson was then called—He said he was a consi.
derable leaded proprietor in the neighbourhood of Perth, ar.d
knew the place called the South Inch very well. He was of
opinion that in a salutary point of view the inhabitants would be
great sufferers, as the erection of a station and line of railway along
the southern side of the Inch would prevent the free
influx of tee sea air to the western side, or it would
arrive in a smoke-imprtgnated condition, and unfit for respira-
tion. The opinion of the Perth people was not generally in favour
of the line.
After a short cross.examination of this witness by Mr. TALBOT,
Mr. Sputtiswoode was called, who said that thirty.five acres of
ground. on the western side of the town, had been let out for
railway purposes.
With this witness Mr. Clark clesed his case.
The decision of the Committee is deferred till the close of the
who'e beshiess before them.
Sir Thomas Phillips, Mr. Austin, and Mr. M'Neil appeared to
oppose on behalf of the Edinburgh and Glasgow (Branch to Stirling)
Railway.
Mr. Gibbs was examined as to the traffic along the branch line
to Stirling. At present there existed no direct communication
either for goods or pa sengers between Stirling and Carlisle; the
traffic between these places was very considerable, and would, in
his opinion, afford a sufficient remuneration on the outlay of
capital expended in making a railway. The traffic between Perth
and Stirling was comparatively small.
Mr. Dick, an extensive woolen-draper, then gave evidence as
to the increasing woollen trade of Stirling, and instanced the nuin-
ber of hands employed, and quantity of goods manufactured, as
proofs of its extent.
Mr. Bow corroborated the evidence of the previous witnesses.
Sir T. PHILLIPS then proceeded to examine witnesses on behalf
of the Edinburgh, Glasgow (Branch to Ailoa) Railway.
Mr. Paton, a merchant, gave evidence generally as to the in-
creasing trade In woollen manufactures and coals in the district of
,e Yea.
At the close of the examination of this witness, the Committee
adjourned till twelve to-morrow.

SYSTON AND PETERBOROUGH RAILWAY.
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The Committee on this Railway Bill met to.day at twelve o'clock
Sir G. Clerk, Bait., in the chair.
The first matter gone into was a petition from the Leicester Na.
vigation Company against the proposed taking up of the Oakham
Canal, as agreed to between the Oakham Canal Company and
the projectors of the line the latter end of last week.
The Committee decided against receiving the petition, on the
companies, yet that nothing
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carried out that arrangement, and then would be the piTer time
fo to petition to be presented against such an incorporation.
The clauses in reference to tolls were then read. '1 hey provided
a charge of 3d. rer mile for first class ; 2d. per mile fur second
class; and lid. per mile for third class passengers.
A short discussion ensued on these clauses, when the room was

cleared.
On our return the CHAIRMAN intimated that the Committee had
decided that the clauses should stand part of the Bill.
The next clause considered was that relating to the carriage of
coal and lime, providing a charge of lid. per ton per mile. This
was agreed to.
The Committee likewise confirmed the clauses relative to the
carriage of other kinds of goods without any alteration. The scale
of prices was from lid. to sd. per ton per mile, according to the
nature of the articles.
The clause respecting the carriage of horses and cattle was like.
wise agreed to. It provides a charge of sd. per mile for each
horse, od. for each head of cattle, and 34d, for each sheep or other
small animal.
given in our report of Monday, were
The clauses for the speed of the trains near Peterborough at the
unction with the I..'astern Company's Railway, the crossing of the
street at Stamford, the passing of. the line through Lord Harbo-
r Ii •s
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agreed
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BEDFORD AND LONDON RAILWAY COMPANY.
The clauses respecting tolls on this line, which had been post-
poned at a former sitting of the Committee, were now brought for-
ward and agreed to. The rate of charges are similar to those now
in forceon the London and Birmingham line.
DUNSTABLE, LONDON, and BIRMINGHAM RAILWAY.
This is an unopposed line, and is proposed to connect the town
of Dunstable with the London and Birmingham Railway.
Several witnesses were called in support of the preamble.
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length is seven miles, and the c vital is 50,000/. There is in-
clined plane, proposed to be worked by weight:, and, with this ex-
ception, the steepest gradient is 1 in 73. This is at the junction
of the London and Birmingham. and rises to the latter line. The
curves arc favourable, and there is no tunnel. It is to be a single
line of railway, except where the inclined plane is. Tte profit,
after deducting all expenses for working the line, is estimated at

five per cent.
The Committee decided the preamble of this Bill to be proved.
The reports on the three Bills, with the amendments made, were
then brought up and re_id,
The Committee decided that these be reported by the Chairman
to the House.
The Committee then adjourned, the business of this group being

IRELAND:
THE QUEEN'S VISIT.
DURLIII, APRIL 29.--. A special meeting of the corporation was
held this day in the City Assembly-house. The Right Hon. the
Alderman O'BRIEN said he felt peculiar p
a Committee should be appointed to Pleasure in moving that
prepare an address to the
Queen, requesting her M jetty would be graciously pleased to visit
her faithful Irish subjects at her earliest convenience.
Alderman Sir .1. POWER, Bart., seconded the motion.
Mr. HunsoN moved an amendment, that the consideration of
the subject should be postponed for a month. In proposing the
amendment, Mr. Hudson said., that the unanimity
been whiint ch had ex-
isted on the subject of addressing her Majesty hadinterrupted
by recent circumstances, to which he would refer. He was sur.
prised at finding in the morning papers a report of a speech, deli-
vered by Mr. O'Connell, in which the Learned Alderman declared
that the repeal cause should be in no wise abated on the arrival of
her Majesty; and if that course were followed, he (Mr. Hudsoi.)
could not anticipate anything but dissension and strife.
Alderman KINAHAN seconded the amendment.
Mr. O'CONNeLL said, if there were anything criminal in the
course coml.lained of by Mr. Hudson, it was solely attributable to
him, and he would vindicate himself. Since he last had the honour
of spe:iking on the subject, circumstances had occurred which altered
his opinion with regard to the course which he would pursue. The
English newspapers conveyed intelligence of a nature that was not
to be misunderstood. Ireland had been set at defiance. The Eng.
lish people were determined to risk everything rather than entertain
the subject of the repeal of the union; and if her Majesty would
visit her Irish subjects, and that in compliment to her they would
suspend their exertions for repeal, it would be construed into a re-
linquishment of the question, to which he would n ever consent.
lie would not be a party to delusion by any Ministry, whether
y
Whig or Tory. No one was bound by an
engage to fulfil his promise by giving act of his. He would
the toast of her Majesty's
Ministers. He would contribute his share of te
whaver expensene
would be necessary to carry out the object i but he d
from voting on the question, on one side or the other.
The amendment having' been put and negatived, the origina
motion was carried, and a Committee appoilited•

GUANO DEPOSITS.-- rhe following is an extract
from the letter of a captain just arrived from Ichabarrivaoe :—"
here Cove of
Cork, April 25.-1 have to inform you of my
safe l this
day, in 54 days from lchaboe, but am sorry to say I have no more
guano in now than when 1 left that place to go to the southward.
In mine to you of the 10th of February I informed you of my
sailing, looking for guano, with the agent on board. I visited
thre.: different places, but could get none, when I received final
crders from the agent to make the best of my passage to this port

or Falmouth."