The Sun.
London, England, 1827-05-03 00:00:00

due to hie-own character and honour, and the welfare of
Ireland.

Sir C. BURRELL lamented that the Hon. Gentle-
man had not accompanied his approbation of Emanci-
pation with Rome approval also of securities for the Pro-
testant Hierarchy. To propose concession without some
security for the Established Church, would disgrace every
public man,
Mr. BRIGHT believed, that as soon-as it was generally
known in what way the Cabinet was constituted, a strong
feeling of disapprobation would be expressed throughout the
country. Catholic Emancipation was in no way a ques-
tion of religion merely, but the claims were resisted because
it was believed that the prevalence of Popery was injurious
to civil liberty ; the opposition to the claims, therefore, was
not in the slightest degree connected with the fear of reli-
gisus persecution. However religious differences might be
arranged, it was the duty of the House, as the guardian of
teruporal rights, to take care that the Constitution was
not infringed. He repeated, that the majority of the country
Would view with the greatest dismay the recent alteration in
the Cabinet. It became all who, like him (Mr. Bright,)
r'Presented great populous places, to speak out at this mo-
ment; and among other things, he would express his sa-
'isfaction, that the recent changes had at least produced one
advantage to the opponents of the Catholic claims—the
;hie and eloquent advocate of the Protestant cause was now
tt..ee from the thraldom of office, and he (Mr. Bright)
`!l°Ped he would continue with honour and integrity the
In' of conduct he had hitherto pursued, and which had
tiled him the approbation and confidence of all classes of
e"nnunity. He trusted that both the Right Hon.
-end
eman and the country wouhi take courage at the pre-
sent juncture, and put an end at once to the unreasonable and
unconstitutional demands of the Roman Catholics. That
ilic,esti°n, which had been made a Ministerial sine qua non,
", in fact little or nothing to do with the state of Ire-
land' and the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Peel), by his
valuable labours, had done his utmost to ameliorate the
ceoesilition of the people of Ireland—he knew well that con-
sion to the Roman Catholics wanid afford neither relief
nor security.
Irish Aff • .By the evidence before the Committees on
Affairs, it appeared that the lower orders in Ireland
wt.ere really not acquainted with the benefits, from time to
Ole, conferred upon them by the United Legislature.—
t Hon Gent:emen, instead of exciting discontent, by
}--"ually pressing upon one obnoxious topic—(hear,
I,A-7,c',_)----take pains to explain to the people of Ireland what
nighu-len done for their advantage, and what daily and
(MttlY occupied the attention of both Houses. Since he
Bright) had had a seat, the most anxious attention
tjadetibeen. constantly directed to the situation of Ireland.—
the er the great change which had recently taken place in
" Councils of the Sovereign, he had felt it necessary to
e?ve's his opinion and his conviction, that the people of
; gland were satisfied that the prevalent, of Popery was
nlurious to the civil liberty of every country where it ex -
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4..1. NEWPORT having been for four-and-twenty
a Member of the House, and for forty, or, he might
4/4,3; flftY years, intimately connected and acquainted with
what
hoped to be permitted to say a few words, after
itgaeot hadi already pasaed. He flattered himself that, hay-
he ong lived with the people, and among the people,
wan able to form as correct an estimate of their situation
ainY Honourable Member, and he denied that their de-
'ation was mainly attributable to any other cause than
lie' Proscription of the whole body of the Roman Catho-
That was the radical source of nearly all
the"te pre-
:,l4og evils ; and while the cause remained, conse-
'es must continue also, and every year undergo fresh
egulentation. It was admitted on all sides, that the si-
tr4etti°n of Ireland could not be viewed without deep re-
that' 00'1 it had been produced by the mis-government of
cent Country for a series of years, he might almost say for
the :ice. Despite of all the refer
provisions to which
tsir',°nourable Member had referred—but for which he
at,e d• Newport) did not think the British Parliament
the I've,' much credit, as the measures were forced upon it-
4_,eondition of Ireland had daily grown worse, and she
the°4lyetWiped none of the fruits so liberally promised at
gremunkn. Such was his firm conviction,
:and it had
t 7 with his years, and probably would descend with him
tio„ e grave, Palliatives could do no good—the founds-
boi of the system must be changed ; and until the great
c fof the people had an interest in the Constitution, the
atieln Would experience the bitter consequences of alien-
s„a*trY Over and over again Honourable Gentlemen had
aseYted that the great body of the Irish people felt no in-
thee3t in the result' of time Catholic Question; hut did not
late:Lir,* and result of the late election shew the deep feel-
the '`eY had upon the subject? The lowest member of
the e°e inniunity participated in the general desire and in
nsa,,-;°4l, °ion claim for justice ; and a real, lasting, and be-
es at union, could never be established until there was
requal distribution of rights and privileges.
a,,er iteral GASCOYNE observed upon the extraordinary
diatrt'°n of the Right Honourable Baronet—that all the
etle, of Ireland, manufacturing, agricultural, and corn-
arose out of the refusal of Catholic Emancipation.
itotikkieneral CascoY ne) represented a town of one hundred
tamftiatY thousand inhabitants, and he could bear testi-
Ver that the increased chance of carrying the Catholic
Po01:°400 had already excited the utmost alarm in Liver-
esteio The people at large were decidedly adverse to con-
should and the fact would be proved beyond contradiction,
staacthe present Ministry find it expedient to resort to
refers Election. Election. The interest in the Catholic Question
ameoored to by the Right honourable Baronet, prevailed not
andg the lower orders, but among a better informed
!tleateala°re wily class, who would not feel much compli-
In a m.,71, by being placed by the Right Honourable Baronet
sesserere so degraded. The Roman Catholic priests pos-
t nosuch influence in this country.
the
r° rd MILTON said that no man had contended that
of IrcAul, °val of disabilities would cure all the existing evils
bee-srdm but that the existence of those disabilities had
1114 '41.,c cause of the evils. He, indeed, must be a vain
emakidlynn thought that evils operating for generations,
he terminated in a moment. The position of the
he ha:lt General (Gascoyne) deserved indeed the epithet
144 anplied to the statement of the light Honourable
kitg
;an let.-extraordin The majority of the people of
,d ar
Were not o oYs.ed to the Roman Catholic Claims ;
heacciePtnion was prepay equally divided on the subject.
the ' under the recent change of Government, he thought
Miu•naPect
r. bA,.,of Emancipation materially improved.
!Ie at ta,,„' IY
SON (of Louth) did not think that the peo-
'4l ir_46e Ought to distrust the two Houses of Parliament,
cede wrlieve that they would be so subservient as to con-
Preolieuat they had before refused, merely because the
Althouri_was an advocate for the Roman Catholic Claims.
coml]dgu the Government might be changed, the question
▪ the act he carried until there had been an entire alteration
side:A. the "`nunients of the eople of England on the subject.
- was, therefore no cause for exultation on the one
slop °l' for alarm en ihe other. He denied that time admis-
iiad ut Catholics would he a breach of the Constitution,
11,14ditverted to their services in obtaining and maintaining
nndevi kAntrta. In modern ''ores, they had shown an
loyelat''ores,ng attachment to the Constitution, and unshaken
inad:Y.ro the Hou.,e of Brunswick. If concession were
A m..r.eve Catholics would obtain seats in Parliament.
Neo,. MEMBER under the Gallery, on that which formerly
his considered the Opposition siae of the House, expressed
I.:tire concurrence in all that had fallen from the Noble
50.,1 (Chandos) and repeated the call upon the people
opitiiinogolgand to come fbrward with a declaration of their
,s.ltar. DUNCOMBE was satisfied that the great majority
mt theinhabitants of England 'Were hostile to further con-
t, Mr. SEYMOUR was of a simila(rAotpi hat in Yorkshire the Noble Lord opinion, and contended
via constituents were at variance.svithlitn)
ougat not would find that
neon the threamqiiinees,-,
m;:t_of Emancipation. It
people of England ; but ae
Ati"lln the throats of the
ulelial influence was to be used, he did not see that the
danger
at.of concession was increased.
eaoi4 • PORTMAN observed, that it was unfair to the
igga t 7 and the Cabinet to endeavour to stir up the feel-
theSt the pe,ple, and to raise a cry as if the religion of
set iiaLte were in danger. Such a course tended also to
'sat ukt Ron. Gentlemen in opposition to each other who
niedegi't evinced such a gratifying spirit of kindness amyl
414ilisriaetsi°n• The 'sentiments of the people at large were
ilssea,•;: divided ; and if the topic were to be again dis-
. „,°l_ight to be brought distinctly before the House.
'eon strongly objected to the sort of language
to"net, "n been used by some Members, respecting his
qine
the En u--auch as that the Irieh population were hostile
and he
daglish, and Caine with a petition in time one hand
I,vith thgger in the other. His countrymen came forward
"noo • ben' petitions claiming their Emancipation as a
open the 111:ftotri:y! certainly, would not, on any account, join
. foreign enemies of time country, or commence an
-
ewer!, lie knew of nothing, respecting his commit-
Mr• te0,1e,..h could at all justify such charges.
"3 laid 'l" lAN explained ; after which the petition
Mr. et; the table.
Were ARLES BURRELL remarked, that petitioners
fay "titled to
ourabiehave their petitions received with the most
to ehan2t!ention in that House; and, referring to the
wohlti In the Administration, lie said, that he cer-
r aPProe„a 'mPport any Administration Whose measures
sir is was He eared nothing as to who were in power,
ThQ pes,'P/nettgures that he looked, 'and not to men.
, Mr. H "tl°'l was then ordered- to be printed.
tAt lima ad •
en notice
adverted to the circumstance that be had
CS Of “ motion, for the 15th of May, on the sub-