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London, England, 1845-02-27 00:00:00

moderate protective duty, which was not to be of t 44/.

porary character.— (Hear, hear.)
Mr. LABOUCHERE gave credit to the right 11°12.
Gentleman for his sincerity, but did not think tbe
sent me asure based on sour.d principles. He 1114goi
the attempt to draw a diatinct'on between foreiga
slave-labour sugar, a most unsuccessful one, and it 111
gem-rally so consi, ered by the mercantile elastics.
did not think it had been conducive to the interi'le.e
of the colonists themselves. He thought that lt et
never was a more untenable stet position, than th'', Die
the Right Hon. ;promoteh the t o'os
Noble Ft iend a mild slavery. But what
per
the statement of lion. Gentlemen opposite ?
computed that 60,000 tons of free-labour sugar ‘l„,i
be produce! in Java, 31aiiilla, and other places ;40
thry calculate (I, that while this country toile 2te
tons, the remaining 40,000 we old be sold illose,
gene rid markets of the a oriel. If that were the
'of
the price of 20,000 tons sent to this cot
would be gove ned 1-y the price °f tisit
40.000 tens sent abroad, and their legislation on 0,1
20,000 would affect the suaar sent into Gerinay)
else a here The present measure would Octal). or
the sugar of Cuba and the Brazils, arid as far 93 °eerie
position there lore went, they were not giving Y), 11
Inlieur sugar the advantages they pretend( el tog''''',.atel
%%mild, for the sake of argument, suppose thftabotlr
we re (Tabled by the measure to exclude tlavel,oioe
sugar (lie doubted greatly the pos-ibility of o,l'o
however) from the markets of this country, di pot
imagine that frauds upon a very large scale o°ll, ,
be attempted ? He had it from a person intimate' Hof
versant a !th the sugar trade, that the very first carbor.
Manilla sugar hich had arrived in their ports, "461;i0
ridged to be the production of Surinam or F"e,l°,arr
Now his first objeetien to the proposition of the
me. nt was one which, if well-founded, was of the gr vibe
importance, as proving that this was not lthelYo,
the
a permanent measure. lie perfectly agreed wl
Chancellor of the Exchequer in some of the rcnasl. i
tat
had made, but he (Mr. Latouchere) must say al (;:ctite
when ti e Chancellor of the Exchequer was f° so°
upon the advocates of a gradual reduction of ethetb 0111
inties, he was astonished at the conduct of Ob.
Hen. Gentle man in thus pronouncing a censure 0,50;);
Government, and upon those who supportedit uriOe
ter.) Never was so unfortunate a course as distl:tier
by the Government upon this question. The)/
made such an alteration in the sugar datiel.ooo
they left no doubt of a further allesdt
this year, and now he hoped that, :after 0014011
warnings of the Lord Chancellor. they would 00 y 10
peril the ()the r branches of the trade ef the•cotints
similar manner.—(Laughter at.d Bear, hear.), air
trade with the Brazils was interfered with by 111ele'
sure which was non, proposed. There was 1115°Asfr
mint introduced into it which could not add to frodo
manency, and that was the encouragement °lore lb
upon the revenue.—(Hear, hear.) He would /e he It,
say, notwithstanding the smile of increduliq ,100,1„
served on the faces of some Hon. Meinbers,°;.ol,;„,'
that the West India cultivators themselies(
benefit they were asked to sanction that anolnal(nitbe I.
of legislation, were alarmed at . the course oploto
vernment were pursuing. His eye was eaughtlitetlicip
ing over a newspaper of that morning, by a 3,ooefet
copied from a respectable organ of public 43,0eiectiui.
the West Indies. It stated that the y•-41,
the ndirdission of Venezuelan sugar to "4"..
taro had caused the utmost excitement
the agricultural inter( sts of those colonies,ty'6L:o
meeting had been held to memorialise her MoJe,",,,a/I„'',l,
vernment upon the subject, and the writer .stipPi;e jo.r,
those meetings would be held in every part oft tilt
Ile (Mr. Labouchere) greatly feared, therefore:,l,oo
manency did not attach to the sugar duties 4,
present proposition of Government was intencleusa
It proposed to draw a distinction between (Jorers,l'o,
labour sugar which would be useless and Ilitaer,,,il
and yet nevertheless irritating to the feeliu!°A the
try.—(Hear, hear.) In that way they entailea3.o,lol,o
unfortunate consequences on the commerce-41,11.ecitelirs
of their colonies and of the country. lie °dei ri°
this measure was not likely to increase in ; sit re I°,ol
tions a belief in their sincerity, and in their o!.tt, 11,e!
away with the s'ave trade and with slavery
to the other points, he could not understan" ak, if
were discouraging the slave trade b).
slave-grown sugar from this country. C°lll.,il°l,
say, that when they admitted free labour sogltsta'V
not raise the price of slave-grown sugar jusl; tell,;e111
if in the first instance they had given °doe',
them? Ile agreed with the other portions
Lord's resolution, that this plan, without
benefit to the consumer, tended so greatly
revenue as to render the removal of the ireifey,
property-tax, at the end of three years, °tostli,
certain and improbable. Without entering
calculations on this question, and taking the, '041,(1",
mere financial merits, he was afraid that floollei
aisswer the expectations ef the Right Ha. 'No,
under these circumstances he could not 1.1c,t 0011/
tensing it as trifling yeah one of the gr. ta,:e4t.
of revenue. He believed that they might I°°,l tb°oe4o
consumers of sugar the same advantages( 1.,110,/111;i
by a more moderate protection to the coloialetfceeolito
hear.) But by this important distinctionli°o e
sugars of free aid of slave countries, lie '1'401,0/
whether they would receive in amount of ``,
at the end of three years, the sum at presca. e'
„
revenue of the country At the end of tnre-copo,
would find it still necessary to continue
a part of the permanent revenue 01. the counft'l, Y,fc is
not enter into the details of the Bight 1,°1'"16
measure. Ilis own view was, that that „et
not discourage the cultivation of slave-ittuoiaclo/0
foreign countries further than tee the groom;[
that they in England consumed of free-Liboo
those countries; and exactly to that ant`
t.1:00 encr6
only, would they encourage the proliaei.3 sttlVv'
labour sugar in foreign countries. He w(4l.ii orat,/c,
first part of the resolution of the Noble 1,°,00ilr(ell tj
grounds, and he would also support the e'l's/ie
cause be was convinced that while they id of
ductions in the duties on sugar, they coo. foatVot
time place their differential duties . otter stbe of 0
though diminishing the cost of sugar. eve!' of
in this country, they would at the same 004 Iti4
revenue in such a manner as to prevent t'
any continuance of the income-tax.
ti be lie
Mr. GLADS'fONE said that he Wig", of / )13,,,i
by the House to speak on the amendraene-ol btotiellie
Lord, both on account of the share he had
~f
decision to Government had conic fiatabid:llll
tion, and as lie wss most anxious, althetig hid' 06
to claim his share of the responsibility ‘/1,0r(1
itoPe?
incurred. He thanked both the Noble talleacPliel'
gentleman who had just sat down, for they. -ioPca
per they hail manifested on that occasl`,l,ol3, oeotle
that the Noble Lord and his supporters °editaaf
vacating their own opinions, yet give °rya,' 11‘,,t0,
verntnent, for not perhaps very liaigehtetoirintsotietlihcor34o44
motives, but at least for having
as to render the charge of lukewartnne'Sdi reg 004.4
the oppressed inapplicable to them. 11.1
Ge ee
motion of the Noble Lord, he had t° 0011-
for submitting it in such a form. If the e, ar,
who had just sat down had o difficult). I
Die deo)
and all of the propositions of the N° fe o
Gladstone) lead equally little difficult)"
and all of them.—(Laughter and eheers)ee
first, that the distinction sought l'9„.are 0 Voici;
between free-labour and slave 61100 11011'
sory and impracticable ; that it seetiit:e
to the consumer; and that tbe income
17r/ien
tion was likely to be continued a hs,, be‘, 011
country. With regard to the income" r.essiaboll 111;(
very little; but lie could not help e%.1) fly
nishment that the Noble Lord sl Incoole; 10)4
exhibit so stream, an opinion on toe th,ht b°,,/
the Noble Lord expect a revolution._ 04, fact
fortune ? Did he consider what partfite_'o4;ll,'oo,,rell,
reins of Government, d that that t xerf.) lit(
their doings three years hence ?—(Ch,,ent aP,ioobl„tt,f,t
Lord said that the distinction "-iiireseisw
free labour sugar and slave sugar was stian /joie'
granted that the real and practical qO.O coon 1.10,01!;;,
they should exclude sugar from eertaltode., eon P"^
at present carried on an Afeican slave ecrtalbc reit
tion of the exclusion of sugar
might be principally confined to
and one of the grounds on v. hich
he on, no. 4,
founded his at guments against to ,s ap° t of.
gave scope to the perpetration of fratt.(l.lst the, so)
He was prepared to contend aPI inion
The Hon. Gentleman quoted the:'a yort°ll,olsetr,
tlemen, that sugars from Surinam 1: Vent( ocio!fc
enter the country as the produce set
nilla. Now it was impossible tondllic aatal:oool,A
pressed in those general terms, the gi„d 01' (0;
request the Hon. Gentleman to
.11:/tienderet7 tbieo4,
opinion, its order that it might u
oHfeanw7rplidninoont
He last session went into the par ,PO her set
I (Ifertehde thatsutsubject,
alnlodni.leG(enitr,
given
full con i'an 101'rof''
ine rhoistisleootse't
idecocii:rgesl:(l,llli:s.ere,?:'
House had expressed theirl.elliGeland.::,,:tsevic')jUrs:is)(l)ll°l°rerlis!te:
of (lion .Gentlemenng ti e "
rice str-t
those rnade use
f j%ineo re P' jollrof
in streaking of some law o -
ever bet° tot 01
nary law—such a law as was n wenir
Ipaawymbyenwtimiicaldi,ethbr3o7uognhesozned;ostte(r,:he
this e°,r"r;trj'4."lo`l
America was introduced
ihnatever. '3 oroelifti.
payment of any duty w arg...i
popular, a most telling argot.
en_i_.r.,o,o ott._"o Foe)
the public mind. and serve
it: ,gP_".ernt of a gaot,oiotii
that was a mere labrieatio7,
or;
public otiviovi A 4
palmed on the credulity o 1 with a belie ~ea
some per,seonwehich he w,
men opposite, by
upon them and serve a purpo.:.
teed tit° ,
not be of any avail now. interripplie°
Al11110°"1
MeTrohbeelrlseeniiplolasirtoen,evithao.as
t cert al 1'
common report. deprieleer:ted hiS
c, ulel not front
wt.], °rl in 11'
111 r. GLA DSTONE—I
ie
r%arlllearclt,,paperlee
oaNnrhildgoialhneattielbudea brruceatP:hreitthilaividdtseheP,rll:lo_..ll,omtini6lieneteso:-:.l,:eielitii,eoir:
any rate, it was one of thoSisendibor proieLsitTof
14ittc,161,:i
Gentlemen opposite had
stßuthegeyuteblinlilesiti.dra,abtntultrottai,
ititin,e:nniciest!(:.itrisviiennesugar oe%r
he (Mr. Gladstone) be te .ntd tai
rechtec iitce ,
readily 3 t PO° Pi"
countries would lee c no
duties imposed last session, fi_ointt p.seone,
e; dip;
troduction of sugar from Ci tmr!GoAlst if/00,01i
a paying transaction.
iction tlltt it ,
sitate to express a cum' that, -, bliieovol)
tial duties were re:3eale:i G 130110,0 '',310,4
she produce det(uoi efeogr oi:ft' es
thoserostdi
uncewot liuotn:t.r to
lit
te/iff;goctifej::°Delortste
amare that common feeling decided of Of lot?: oir,,
; there was in this countrY,,voe,e,e,l7osite„,; of
°veil, thing that promoted the,z_uo., (-Prot
~of
the stave trade. lion. Gen't worg Ow
grP°eliatticr74llidtgaml-pahanncidplee.xpoecutteattoey ;cop.

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