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I'l)Olt-LAWS,

31r. MANGLES wished to know whether the Right
Hon. Baronet, the ',low Secretary, had any objection
to lay on the table of the flotuf.c, what pre poriions of the
persons he had alluded to, the other night, as receiving.
relief in. and out of the different workhouse:, belonged
to the agricultural and what to the manufacturinc
cla,sses. _

Sir JANIES GUAH Ali had no returns sho,,ving tlife
proportions required by the Hon. 3lernber.
The dropped Orders of yvstk,rl.l4.y were dim r?-44)..
poi n tett

FINES AM RECOVERIES,
rhe Fines and Recoveriev 13111 wa read a tbk.d

;6:l(ibliN3fENT OF HOUSE-.

Sir E. PEEL moved that the House, on its ri,ing, de
adjourn till Friday, the 2tith of liar.---(Lw.-a cries „r
..Nionday. Monday," and " )
The SPE.kliEll, having put the question, deelar,,,l
that the Ayesliad it. The House Only:fore st.uoda
journed till Friday.
ELECTION COMPIu MI i V 0 ArmiTTEE.

Mr. ROEBUC' moved the apNi.nttnent"--oithei-Yona-
ompromi;res. It was Ms
mittee for inquiring into election e.
wished to take every pains wisdi the subject, but he
had felt that it would be, difficult to nominate
such a Committee as woula command at once the
attention of the }Town; and the confidence of
the country. The names of.. the •Ct;mmittee had been
altered as they stood ou his paper, and he thought he.
need only read them witlmut further preface, to show-
that all parties had been considered. The lion. Member
then read the following names as the Members of the
Committee :—Mr. Ilramston, Mr, Miles, Sir W. Heath-
coat, lieu. W. Laseelles, Mr. Hawes, Mr. Strutt, Sir W.•
Somerville, Lord Worsele.v, Mr. Roebuck.
Sir \V. SOMERVILKE excusod himself, on the
ground that he was one of MI important Irish Com-
e, an 4 ;Also rt Member of the General Committee
of Elections.

BOELIIICK thought that Is: might count on thft,
lku. Baronet's consenting to act .on the Committee.
Sir W. SO.MERVILLE said that if it was :rm.
lately necessary, be wutati %valve his objection to at•Rild
.1. tip- Committee.

Mr. MON('ETON MILNES thought that al,W:r the
notice of mot ien given by the Hon. Member for dnor,
and alter the expressions of the Hon,. and L„earned
Gentleman oppositc,:no private slops, sitch ap•
peared now to be the cue, • should. by z taken
on the present occasion. He bOleved that the /' moult of the
reflection of the last few day:4, induced Her,. 7:tlernbers to
etitne to the conviction that the House hall done wrong ilk
granting the. Committee ut all. It /was. his opinion
that in granting the Ceantnittee thg'silouse, exhibited a
want of moral courage. He did not acense the-Eight
Hon. Baronet at the head of her 31ajes.ty's Goren-
anent of a want of moral courage, for he knew that
Right Honourable Baronet had expressed himself with
w hat he ccnsideredexaggeratedseutiments.on the subject ;
but he accused :many lion. Members of) a want of that
moral courage which should induce t"aem, to repel the
feelings that made them assent to the metieliL However,
justly and rightly the lion. and Leave ed /Gentleman had.
acted in bringiter the subject before Lime House ; yet, in
granting the Committee, they had.' entered upon a
course of which it was difficult , foresee. the
Why should they appoint a Coaart,)%tee to investigate
matter which on all • sides watt elk, weif and permitted ?
Why should they make viethns .of certain unfortunate
fordoi ng that which ev,,i.ry Member of the House
. might have dune himself tout er certain eircumstancr=t ?
If they legislated in that ma finer, they would Ike ]eglA.
biting in, anything but i sincere spirit. If they
spoke of bribery in that, House in different tone
from what they snoke, of it in their private. con-
versations—if they/pret,ended to repudiate bribery in thus
noise-, while they 'Aughed at: it among themselves,
and %lid, the loudner ts. of the laughter was ha
proportion to. '.he grossness of -the ease—{llear)—how
could they eS.,•eet t++' get credit, for sincerity ? . lie did
net admit the great Ueeessity. -which sonic :Honourable-
. Gentleme-A pretended existed for legislation on this
subject. Ile - would 'not adn tit- that bribery existed
to SUeri an extent us Hon. (ten tlemen pretended, because
if he did o he could not resin
tt the conclusion, that the.
i:eople of this Couutr.-
wee e not fit for represents-
tuna ; that every extension of: the suffrage was a detri-
ment, and not a good ;undue tha t the proposal.
lion. Member for Rochdale- fr o extembng the suffrege
wasA..AlelwAon and an abs,oraitx,of the
t laat the people, instead.
uc 1,_"34%, had abused ev'ery pop rel. which hail been givon
to tnem,". and
that they. Ntv re r ,Tossly corrupted, simply
heeltuSe they were easily corm Ptible. Lie attributed the
increase of bribery to' the in' -• ", üblic vigilance"
:tease p on pc).
to the increased value whit' ti every wan set "P

1.-‘,. privileges, and t "-..seis increased vigilance in look-
ing aftsr these things. He believed. therefore, that the
Committee was uncalled for, that they were setting out
oe a a rung principle, that they were not proceeding on
a eere principle, but that they were trying to make
the Isses,le believe what they did not believe themselves.
For those reasons he should raise every impediment iu
his power to the formation of this Committee.
Mr. HUME said that the lion. Member who had
11:)- stating that they all very well knew that such
practices had existed, would do well to speak only for
himself.
Mr. M. MILNES said that what he had stated was
that the House knew that arrangements took place.
Mr. HUME was surprised to find that the Hon.
Member objected to the inquiry. He believed, however,
for his part, that the most effectual means of putting an
end to those corrupt practices which disgraced the
country would be to extend the franchise, and to give a
vote to every person who paid taxes. Still he thought it
was desirable that the proposed inquiry should take
place, and he should therefore support the motion.
Sir J. WALSII complained of the alteration made by
the. Hon. and Learned Member fur Bath in his motion at
the close of the discussion on Monday, night. He did
nut mean to impute any improper motives to the Hon.
and Learned Member, for whose character he entertained
the highest respect ; but he could not help expressing
his regret that the original motion had been clandestinely
altered, in the absence of many Members who took an
interest in tie subject.
The SPEAKER was understood to say that the Hon.
Member was out of order.—(Hear, hear) On the ques-
tion before the House lie could only object to names.
Sir JOHN WALSH (who was repeatedly inter-
rupted with loud cries of " Order, order," and " Ques-
tion") said, that the Speaker had decided that ho
could only object to names.—(Hear, hear.) If so, then,
he hoped he would not be required to give his reasons.
—(clear, and '• Oh, oh.") To do so would render a task
always invidious doubly painful. The Hon. and Learned
Member for Bath had extended the duties of the Com-
mittee so much that it was necessary it should be com-
posed of men of the highest character in the House and
of the highest personal character; and he conceived
that he was portesstly justified asking that persons of
that character should be placed upon that Committee.
There was a voice that once commanded universal at-
tention in that House ; there was a voice which, whenever
its tones were beard, all those who could appreciate the
talent of the greatest living orator would endeavour to
eateh; and he had heard a certain Noble and Learned Lord
say not long ago, in commenting upon the composition of
Election Committees, that he regretted that persons of
high professional character were absent from the list of
those who composed such Committees. .Was he then
out of order in moving that such persons should be added
,to the Committee? The motion of the Hon. Gentleman
Was arig,inally for a Select Committee to inquire whether
certain parties connected with election petitions pre-
sented to that House against the return of certain Mem •
bers, were not guilty of a gross breach of its privileges.
-The motion founded upon ghat was, that a Select Commit-
tee.,he appointed to inquire into certain corrupt practices
which
.had occurred at the recent elections. That was
the motion that was submitted from the chair. He con-
tended that this Select Committee to inquire into the
nature of these compromises was a judicial inquiry of
the greatest possible importance. It was an inquiry which
not only concerned the honour and character of several
Members of that House, but it was a judicial inquiry in
which the interest, the rights, and privVeges, of fire con-
stituencies of this country were concerned—the rights and
privileges of those who returned nine seats to that House.
This taw* be a small portion of the House, but he re-
ax,llected the time when upon nine seats, and upon votes
of Members of that House, the fate of a Ministry depended,
and it was not impossible that, in JO years, nine seats
would determine the fate of a Monarchy.—(lronical
cheers, and cries of " Question.") It was impossible
for the Eton. and Learned Member to ground an objec-
tion to the issue of the writ for Nottingham on his
original motion. But he founded his objection upon a
subsequent addition to his motion. It was a very serious
thing for the House to agree to the suspension of a writ.
Nothing could justify this but the strongest grounds.
Ife drew this conclusion from the Hon. and Learned
Member's motion, that upon the Repartof the Committee
ulterior proceedings should be taken against the bo-
rough of Nottingham, and then ulterior proceedings
would be taken against the other towns named. The
House, therefore, voted a Committee which might be
said to combine the subject matter of five Election Com-
ra:ttees in one. He said it was a case which required
the telsistance of Hon. Gentlemen of professional expe-
perience of the highest legal character in that licinse.
Thou.l, he had many friends of his own on the Commit-
tee, he should still say, frankly and openly, that he did
not think the Committee were possessed of that profes-
aional knowledge which would justify the House in re-
posinga trust of such importance in them. He thought
the assent of the House was given by surprise to the ap-
pointment of this Committee, and the only remedy that
.now remained was to appoint professional persons to as-
mist on a subject which concerned the rights and privi-
leges of the people of the country.
Mr. COCHRANE wished to put a question to the
iron. Member for Derby, in reference to the petition
that was presented to the House this evening from Mr.
Warburton. The question he had to propose was—and
lie thought he had a right to put it, as the Hon. Mem-
ber was a Member of the Committee—whether the Hcri.
Member had given any counsel to Mr. Warburton to
stistnand an inquiry respecting the borough of Bridport
iteforo the Select Committee ?
„Ur, ,STRUTT begged the Hon. Member to repeat
his question, as lie did not understand it.
Mr. COCHRANE having repeated the question,
STRUTT said that he gave his fribnd (Mr. War-
hurt,. it) no e upon the subject.—(Hear, hear.) He
w:ts ne • sure that he had not heard Mr. Warburton
speak of ,'is intention to present such a petition ; but he
01. e. Strutt did not give any opinion on the subject.—
(Ilear, hear.) Be had no knowledge of the petition till
be. saw itin the Votes, and he never knew anything of
contents ail he had heard
f them from the Hon. Mem-
ber or Liskeard.—(Hear, hear,)
Captain BERNAL wished to ask the Chair, as a
voang Member of the House,—(Great laughter.) He
begged pardon, he wished to ask the Chair whether this
system of putting questions to Hon.tMembers, not Mem-
bers of the Government, was strictly in order.
The SPEAKER said, that the original practice was,
that questions should be confined to the orders of the
slay. The rule sleets then had been relaxed and ques-
tions had been put to Members of the Government, and
chio to Members of the House, on subjects with which
they were connected; any further relaxation of the rule
lie did not remember, until the lion. Member for Bath
laud put certain questions.—(Hear, hear.)
2,1 r. M. MILN ES observed, that what he had stated,
refereed to compromises, and not to bribery and cor-
rupt, ou.
The letmes of Mr. Wm. Miles, Sir Wm. Heatlicoat
awl the lion. W. Lanibton were added to the Committee.
On jut being proposed that Sir Wm. Somerville's name
be added to the Committee,
S:r 1V k.".. SOMERVILLE observed that the post
assigned Mira by the Hon. and Learned Member for
Rah was not a very enviable ow, but if lie could facili-
tate the object Its' had in view,he should be happy to be
a Member of the Committee.
The name of the _Hon. Baronet was then added to the
Committee, as was al, o that of Mr. Hawes.
Os the question that Mr. Strutt's name be added to the

G atrni I tee,
M.-. STRCTT stated that if any Hon. Gentleman
objeetetto his name being :m the Committee, he should
be happy if he would make that objection, a 4 he was
must desirous of being excused from being on the
Committee.
Th.; lion. Gentleman's natne was then added to the
Committee, as were also those of "Lord Wersley and Mr.
lio '.,ark.
pa the question that five be a quorum,
Mr. T. I)UNCOMBE objected to the motion, because
1w had given notice of a certain test to be proposed to •
Memberi forming the Committee. and if several gen-
tiorticit objected to take that test the number of Members
Ill' r' ht. be considerably reduced.
ford I.'t )I.l.lN(i'l ON ohjeeted .to the Him. Menden.
for Bath being a Meleher upon the Committee.
After a few words' from Mr. DUNCOMBE and Lord 1
J. Busfet.t.. which were inaudible,
• l'ir ROBERT PEEL said, the Committee ought to
be uaalogoiti to ono appointed under the Election Juris-
dicdoe Act, and it was of great importance that
the ,Geatleman appointed should undertake the
duty with the understanding that they should
f.,,-!Te th rir regular attendance. Should any indi-
vidual Member unfortunately be unable to attend, ti e
Howe would be empowered to supply his place, and this
would be a very imperfect remedy, because the new
lleWkber would not have heard the whole of the evidence.
With respect to the quorum, he trusted every gentle-
man composing the Committee would feel it his duty to
wire his regular attendance.
4,
Mr. DUNCOMBE then moved that nine Members
forin a quorum.
Lord F. EGERTON said, as far as precedents went,
every :Member of the Committee understood that he was
to give his attendance precisely the same as if on an
It/salon Committee. This would make the proposal of
the Hon. Gentleman opposite unnecessary.
Mr. BRAMSTON said, though he should notrh
peaps
undertake the duty cheerfully, still he would endeavour
to do his duty. lie trusted that there would be an order
of the House that the Committee should always attend
' in full number.
After a desultory conversation between Mr. Christ-
mess, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Lord J. Russell,
and Lord Worsloy, the motion was withdrawn.
On the question that the Committee have power to
send for papers, persons, and records being put,
Air. T. DUNCOMtE said that he believed this was
the proper period for hint to submit to the consideration
of the House the motion of which he had given notice
the other day with respect to th:s Committee. He
begged to move " that each Member appointe4,to serve
on the Select Committee on compromises of election
petitions, shall subscribe the following declaration in the
presence of Mr. Speaker :
" I -,-- do solemnly declare that I never directly, or
indirectly, have been guilty, by myself or apnts, of any
1 PA! t of bribery or corruption in procuring a sect in Par-
iliatnent ; that I never paid, or promised to pay, intend
:Jo pay, or sanctioned the payment of. any sum or sums
0: money beyond the legal expenses for my lust or any
pt-,,yious election ; nor have I at any time connived at,
been privy to, or assisted in, any corrupt practice for the
purpose of returning any Member or Members to serve
in Parliament. (Signed) f 4 / I
:154.?',.'4•1LL042k Some short time since he had taken the liberty of ask-
.,''',*d.,, 77tN. ing the Right lion. Baronet if it was his intention to in-
treduce any measure for the prevention of treating, bri-
bery, and intimidation, and he (Mr. T. Duncombe) had
.:-. +,,,,,-,, ~
~eh, „. stated that his reason for asking that. question
..• , ~. , then
-..i.' -7, / 4.:''tiviwas that it was perfectly notorious that at the last
. ic,..,,,'•,t '
'-.t .1 :-..-,' ,-)it 1..'" ' general election there had been more bribery,
j
% • ' '?'/ 7corruption, more treating, more intimidation,
- • , ,•-, . -. ~,;,.... more
1 a s than had ever been known in the most cor-

rupt age or. the most corrupt period.—(Cheers.)
Tile Right lion. Baronet had said that the press of
public busin?ss would prevent him from bringing for-
ward any measure for that purpose, but that he trusted
that the Noble Nord, the Iliember for Lyndon, would
again introduce the measure which he had introduced in
the former Session, and would again take up the sub-
ject. At the same time the Right Hun. Baronet ad-
!flitted that it was his (Sir.. R. Peel's) belief that at
the last general election gross bribery, gross corruption,
and gross intimidation had been practised.—(Cheering
and counter-cheering.) He :(Mr. T. Duncombe) could
only say that if any one expressed the slightest doubt
on the subject, he could undertake to prove at the bar of
the House that a majority of the Mbmbers of that House
had been returned by gross bribery, corruption, and
n timida don. —(C heering and counter-cheering.) He
was now prepared to prove that assertion, but he was not
prepared to carry that great question to a private room
up-stairs, to gratify party feelings and private animo-
sities.—(Cheers.) He wished that an inquiry into the
coustitution of that House should take place at the bar,
in the face of open day, and of the whole country.—
!Loud cheers.) The whole country regarded their
transactions during the last week with the most unmiti-
gated disgust at their injustice and hypocrisy.—(Loud
cheers an laughter.) The public knew perfectly well
that when they were about to persecute six or eight
individuals there were at least 600 of them in the House
who were just as bad. There was a sense of justice
in the British public, that did not like to see eight or
ten men hunted down by 600 others, who were equally
implicated.—(Cheers.) Three millions and a half of
the people had already told them so, in the petition
which hp had presented, and which they had refused to
hear, although the petitioners had offered to prove their
allegations at the bar. What did they say in that peti-
tion, which had been so unjustly maligned?—(Hear,
hear.) The petitioners stated that seats in that House
were improperly obtained, that they were sought for at
a most extravagant cost, which proved an enormous de-
gree of fraud and corruption. They stated, and stated
most truly, that bribery, intimidation, corruption, and
treating prevailed in Parliamentary elections. Now, if
they were to inquire into these practices, let it be seen
that the gentlemen, who were to act to a certain extent
as volunteer inquisitors, at all events, mounted the judg-
ment seat with clean hands. That was the object of his
motion. He also agreed in thinking, that the Committee
should be presided over by some gentleman of great legal
ability, of calmness of temper, and moderation of habits.
He hoped they would be enabled to find nine men, at least,
who would be free from the corrupt practices complained
of. He could obly say that, if he had been named upon
that Committee, he could not make the required decla-
ration.— (Hear, hear, and laughter.) He could take it
as the representative of Finsbury ; but, unfortunately
for him, he was once a candidge for the very pure and
immaculate borough of Pontefract.—(Laughter.) He
had spent 4,000/. to get into Parliament for Pontefract,
and he h'ad no hesitation in saying that that money was
spent in gross bribery, treating, an corruption. On that
occasion, he was unsuccessful • he was defeated by Lord
Pollington, and the father of the Hon. Gentleman oppo-
site (Mr. M. Milnes). At that election, corrupt prac-
tices had been resorted to ; and he would say more, he
did not believe that any one was returned for Pontefract
without bribery.—(Hear, and laughter.)

Mr. MILNi4.S—i deny it.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE continued.—He had unfortu-
nately stood a candidate also five times for Hertford.—
(Hear and laughter.) Three times he succeeded, and
twice he was defeated ; but at all events he contrived to
leave 30,0001. behind him at Hertford.—(Great laughter.)
He had to contend with a very great aristocracy. He
had to contend with "seven days leases"—(Hear, hear)—
which the voters held under the Marquis of Salisbury,
so that they would be immediately turned out if they
voted against the pleasure of their landlord.---(Hear,
hear.) Well, he (Mr. Duncombe) had to build houses
for them.—(Laughter.) He had to build or buy sixty-
three houses.—(Roars of laughter.) A great portion of
his money was spent in treating, but the greater part in
direct bribery.—(Laughter.) Having only shown that
he himself could not take the declaration, he should like
to see the nine men who could.—(Hear and a laugh.) They
would be the admiration of the country. The whole city
would come down to see them, especially after they had
passed sentence upon the gentlemen accused of offences
of which almost the whole House had been guilty.—
(Hear, hear.) If the resolutions were not agreed to, he
hould, immediately after the holidays, move that an
humble address be presented to her Majesty, praying
that she would be graciously pleased to dissolve this
Parliament, after the extensive and disgraceful practices
of corruption which prevailed at the last general election ;
without the total discontinuance of which the House
could not be restored to that degree of respect and confi-
dence which was necessary to the due exercise of its
legislative functions.
The SPEAKER having put the question,
Lord POLLINGTON said the Hon. Gentleman who
had just sat down, had applied such language to the
borough which he (Lord Pollington) had the honour to
represent, that he felt it his duty—(Laughter)—that he
felt it his duty to inform the House of the circumstances
of the election to which the Hon. Gentleman had alluded,
when he confessed that he spent this large sum of money,
which was unsucessful ; and he would tell the House why
it was unsuccessful. It was because it could not succeed
in corrupting the people.—(Hear, hear.) In the borough
of Pontefract there had only been one election before the
time, when the Hon. Member came down in reference to
which charges of bribery and corruption had been =dn.
On that occasion there was a very severe contest in-
deed, and the memory of that contest remained to this
day in the town. In the year 1834 %Ir. Raphael, the
then Sheriff of London, came down in the Sheriff's
coach to stand as a candidate for the borough. There
was a report in the borough that he was a Jew, but
when he was asked the queston, he replied, " I am not a
Jew, but I am as rich as one." Mr. Raphael paid
as much as 4,0001. into a bank in the town, but he was
unsuccessful in his attempt to gain the election. If
bribery ever prevailed in that borough it had originated
with Hon. Members on the other side of the House.
He believed that if there had been any corrupt voters,
a better class were now taking their place, and he made
no doubt that if the imputations were true, which he
denied them to be, the borough would very shortly be
relieved from them.
Mr. M. MILES- would simply say, as it seemed these
assertions were to be made, that since he had repre-
sented the borough of Pontefract, he had never heard
the subject of bribery so much as alluded to, and he
had never heard any accusation of that sort made. All
he had to say was, that if the Hon. Member for Fins-
bury divided the House. he should support him (as we
understood).
Mr. HARDY, who rose amidst much laughter, said,
that as he had been alluded to in this accusation, be
ought to be allowed a few words in explanation in re-
spect to his connexion with Pontefract. He had con.
tested the borough of Pontefract in 1826, and he had the
good fortune to prevail on the returning officer to take
the election in one day instead of two, as had always
been the case, and by this means he avoided the prac-
tice which prevailed in the intervening night of an elec-
tion. He certainly did prevail on the returning-officer
to take the election in one day, and he as told, when
that day had considerably advanced, that if he would
spend 5001., and leave a sum of money in the hands of
some person, he should win the election ; but he re-
fused to do so. He was not cognizant—as he was an-
swering to that House—of bribery in respect to
that Election, and to show to the . House in
what way he considered his own conduct on
that occasion, when the Committee sat on the
petition, on which his Right Hon. Friend below bin,
efts his nominee on that Committee, and lie put himself
in the witness-box, and was examined by the counsel on
the opposite side with respect to his conduct on that oc-
casion, they refused to put any question imputing
anything unfair to him. He was perfectly aware, anti
Hon. Gentlemen who had spoken were aware, that when
the late excellent Member, Mr. Daniel Sykes, the Mem-
ber for Hull, was first chosen for Bull, his legitimate
expenses were less than 3001. There was a little me-
moir in the library of the House in which this fact was
stated. Owing to the spirit which prevailed in Pontefract,
he was obliged to leave behind him what lion. Oil -
men knew by the name of head-money ; but he took
care that it should not introduce hiin again to this con-
gtitueecy. He had stated plainly to the House the
facto, and he should ever strive to follow in the step.;
of Mr. Daniel Sykes in all his elections.
Mr. WARD said he would vote against the motion of
his Hon. Friend. He thought that motion was of a na-
ture to cast ridicule on what he conceived to be a grave
and important proceeding. The motion of his Hon.
and Learned Friend (Mr. Roebuck) was brought for •
ward with temper, tact, and firmness, and lie considered
that a test so impritetiCable—(oh, oh)—and so
ill-ad-
vised—(Oh, oh)—he said ill-advised, because no person
was agreed as to what legal expenses were, and no per-
son could take the tEst with a safe conseience.—(oh,
oh.) The Hon. Member overshot the mark in pro-
posing it.—(Hear, hear.) lie looked on it as all at-
tempt to int ?rfere with the motion of his Hon. and
Learned Friend. His Hon. Friend did not intend it, he
was sure ; but that would be the effect of it, and he
should therefore vote against it.
Sir It. PEEL said that the House saw the Com-
mittee, and it would judge whether they were fit to dis-
charge the duty imposed on them. And in his opinion
the Committee, constituted as it was, were fit, as honour-
able men, to discharge the duty confided to them. No
such test was required of the Committees selected to try
election petitions ; and if the members of such tJom-
mittees were not considered disqualified from deciding
cases involving the rights of Members and constituents,
why should such a test as that proposed by the Hon.
Member be imposed in the present instance ?—(Hear,
hear.) It was a dangerous precedent to otablish, that
a test of this nature should be imposed on certain of its
Members by the Home, He thought the Hon. Gentle-
man said that supposing nine Members could be found
vino took such a test, the whole town would flock down
to see them. That was a very facetious, sentiment, but
if, as lie expected, a considerable number of wendering
spectators came to see the entry and departure of the
(Sir R. Peel) did not see how they
Comtnittee--if 600.0ut of the e 53 Members could not
tory result from the inquiry he
ettaikuel tehxepc!cetst,abseati.i
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proposed to institute.--(G His objection was of
a general nature. He believed that to appoint a Com-
mittee in the manner proposed by the Hon. Member for
Finsbury, would be forming a most daaprous precedent.
He should therefore dissent from the proposal of the
lion. Kember.
Mr. lIUME could not vote for the motion, because he
believed, if he did so, he should frustrate altogether the
motion of his Hon. Friend the Member for Bath.
Mr. ROEBUCK thought that it would be desirable,
when Hon. Members wished to oppose a. measure, that
they should do so in a straightforward manner, and not
to pretend to patronise when they were doing all in their
power to render it inefficient. When he proposed to thp
House the inquiry now under consideration, he was
anxious to state, and did state explicitly, and it received the
assent of a majority of the House, that it was the system
at which he aimed, and not the individuals. Throughou