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London, England, 1827-06-27 00:00:00

CUSTOMS BILL.

Viscount GODERICH moved the order of the
day for the House going into a Committee upon the
Customs Bill.

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pur-
pose of being smelted here, and then of being export-
ed again, to be sold in foreign markets. This clause
would prevent the exportation from Birmingham
and other parts in England of coppeer. There
were no less than from 80 to 100,000 men depend-
ant upon the mines of Cornwall, and the House
ought to reflect on the condition of those 'men.—
In the year 1825, the spirit of speculation in these
mines had been carried to an extraordinary extent :
that speculation had failed—and by that failure
many mines had been totally stopped, and vast
numbers of men thrown out of employ. The clause,
therefore, alluded to by the Noble Lord,he considered
would give a licence to the South AmeriCan Mer-
chants, which would be most prejudicial to the in-
terests of this country, inasmuch as it would enable
them greatly to undersell the English Merchant. If
the Noble Viscount would explain to the House why.
the South American Merchants should have this li-
cence if this Bill should be pressed forward, he (Lord
Falmouth) would have no objection to it passing in
the next SessiOn provided the reason was. at all satis-
factory; but in the absence of such reason he begged
to move, that this clause be expunged.
.Viscout GODERICH considered that his. Noble
Friend in moving for this clause to be expunged,
had been under a misapprehension as to its probable
effects as to the grounds on which it had been pro-
posed, and as to the circumstances under which it
had been introduced. The Noble Lord seemed to
thinkit had been introduced into the Bill without any
consideration on the part of those interested in the
question, whereas he could assure the. Noble Lord
that the subject had been constantly under discussion
fOr a length of time by the Dowd of. Trade, and that
Mthiene slightestr.„ If the mines
chance of
Miners.;
persons most deeply interested in Mining the concerns
of this country. He had been given to understand
by Mr. Taylor and others, that this clause might be
very fine copper
than could be a
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cured here, and if the consumption of copper was
great on the Continent after the ore was smelted, he
was 'firmly persuaded that it was 'the interest of
all parties to have it carried there. There was
no difficulty, mystery, or magic in the smelting
of copper ore in France, Holland, or Germany,
any more than there was in England ; it only re-
quired a little capital to do it there as effectually as
here, and if the wish of the House was to send it en-
tirely ,there,they could not adopt a better course than
the principle of the Noble Lord who •had just
spoken. If the House perinitted it to be brought to
this country, it would be brought in English ships,
and the probability was, that if it went out of this
in it would be taken away also in ng,
country age •
lish vessels, whereas, if the importation of it was
to be prohibited in the manner now proposed,
not one farthing's worth of copper would ever af-
terwards be brought from Chili, or any port of
South America, by English ships. By permit-
ring the importation of it, this , I country would
decidedly have the auvantage of the navigation,—
of the warehousing—of the labour employed in
the smelting—and of the capital that would neces-
sarily have to be employed in the traffic; but if the
importation was prohibited the House would do a
very great injury to the interests of this country
without effecting the smallest good—therefore he
felt it his duty to do all he could to maintain the
clause in the Bill.
Lord FALMOUTH would feel greatly Mistakeu
if those persons most deeply interested in the copper

mines in this country had either giventheir assent to
to this bill, or anything like it. All he had
heard was that those persons had made frequent re-
monstrances against it, and that their remonstrances
had been utterly disregarded. - He could not under-
stand how Mr. Taylor could have given all
opinion in favour of it, because he could
not on any ground see how this license
to the foreign merchant was to be beneficial to this
country. He was sure that the mode of smelting
here was far superior to that of any other country`;
and he could assure the House that, in allowing this
clause to stand, they were taking the first step to do
the Cornish miners an irreparable injury.
Lord ELLENBOROUGH considered it very
natural for persons to take the alarm when any thing
at all of a serious nature approached themselves;
whether this alarm bad been taken by his Noble
Friend on such a ground, he would not presume
to say, but certainly the Noble Viscount opposite
had himself admitted in what he had stated, that
there were some grounds for apprehension. The
Noble Viscount had admitted that the supe"
riority of smelting in 'this country, as sveli
as the. great convenience :of getting ore here
but still he did not suppose that that ' was
sufficent to prohibit the importation. His
Noble Friend (Lord Falmouth) was justifies
in finding fault with the late period at which the
present Bill was brought up.... It was incumbent
upon their Lordships to throw out the'Bills brought
up at so late a period, for .if they did not do
something of that kind, their privileges would
be abridged, and this Milne only used for
registering the edicts of the other House.--
For his (Lord Ellenborough's) part, he would en-
deavour next Session to do all in'his prower to pre-
vent the continuance of this most reprehensible
practice.

Lord GODERICH said, that for his own part
he should be extremely obliged to the. Noble Lord,
if he persevered in the course: he intimated his in-
tention of adopting. He considered that an itch
for legislation was one of the greatest evils of thr
present day, and any thing done to abate that evil
would be a public benefit.
Lord LAUDERDALE concurred with his Noble
Friend (Lord Ellenborough) in condemning the
practice of
,crowding the table with Bill.s at the end
of the SeasiOn to such a degre,e,`that no human in,
dustry was sufficient to enable their Lordships to,br.
come acquainted with the topics which they were
legislating.
Lord BEXLEY said, the complaint just made
was to be of long contirmance,but he conceived some
iudulgence should be granted during the present
Session, considering ~the change which had taken
ploce in the administration.
Lord ELLENBOROUGH thought the Bills
relating to Ireland at all events, should be introduced
early next Session, to allow time to communicate
with that country.
The Marquis of SALISBURY wished to knOif
whether the Bill might not be postponed, or at least
the objectionable clause, for a few days.
Lord GODERICH said, he had no objection to
postpone the third reading until Friday, though bt
saw no reason why it should not be read a third
time to-morrow.

Lord.FALMOUTH thought the only way, of
meeting the objections urged was to omit the clause
to which be had referred altogether.
The question was then put on the clause, which
was agreed to without a division • the House dot
resumed,
resumed, and the Bill was ordered to be read a tlio
time on Friday.

WAREHCUSE
,CORN RILL.
On the motion that the Houie resolve itself int°
a Committee on the Corn Warehotnie Biil,
Lord GREY took the opportunity of calling the
attention of his Majesty's Ministers to a subject
which bore remotely on the question now under
consideration, and also on the measure which it wto
understood it was intended to be submitted to the
House of Lords next Session. It was admitted
on all, hand.. that the agricultural interests were noW
'suffering under great depregsion, and fie- WaS Sure
there must be every disposition to afford any
relief to an interest so important to all other
interests and to the country. There was a platt
which he understood might be cultivated with
great advantage, but the cultivation of which W
under a direct and absolute prohibition, he metal
tobacco, which he understood might be cultivsteu
with great advantage in many parts of the
country, and the unnecessary restraints on which
which could not be justified upon any princill,e
of free trade, or of policy and justice.
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thought •the subject worthy of the considerati°";
of his Majesty's Ministers, and after turning ...t11;
matter in their minds between this and the net
Session of Parliament, perhaps they would be pre.'
pared to come forward with some specific propoBl-
tion on the subject.—(Hear.)
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Viscount GODERICH admitted that, vil'e„,-f
these impositions were laid, for the purpose
it",
encouraging the cultivation of tobacco in t",
Northern American Colonies when in our P°,,,"'
session; and as the original cause did 'not l'°„-
exist, he believed the reason for not repealing the,),
was some doubts which were entertained 09
the practical effect of their refusal. He ender;
ssood that the climate of this country was 13°
favourable to the cultivation of tobacco; but tell
d,
this subject, he did not pretend to be well informed'
and he considered the whole subject well worth the
attention of Parliament.
Lord LAUDERDALE said that for six Of
.
seven years after the American tobacco iv!:
knew one instance
cultivated with great success in this country ;
in particulars in the part of the
country which
he came, where 200 or 30°
acres were under it, .
and, the Noble Lard would
look into the Statute Book he . would find e
Code of Laws enacted purposely for encouraging it'
and for placing the cultivation of under the super
intendance of the excise.

[Left sitting.l

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BIRTHS. ~14
On the 25th inst., at Gifford's-ha, the lady of Patti-
Bower, Esq., of a danghter.
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On the 13th inst., at Florence, Mrs. Jasper Hall?
a daughter.
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On the 25th inst., at the Vicarage-house, Ealing'
lady of the Rer. Herbert Oakeley, of a daughter.
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On the 27th ult., Xi% _-oratio Rynier, surgeon' la,
Norfolk-street, Middlesex Hospital, and late of his

jesty's Royal Navy, in the 29th year of his age. l‘lr"
On the 25th inst., after a long and painful illness,
Peter Roy, of St. Mary-axe, in his 41st year.
On the 24th inst., at New College, Oxford, after 3 fed
hours' illness, Henry, eldest son of Henry Perkins, 694
of Springfield, Surrey.
On he
the 26th73d iynear st.,
of inhisPze.tla odrplace, David ',dye
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