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140 USE OF COMMONS, THURSDAY, MA' 23.

11r. BASTARD took the oaths and his seat for
Devonshit e.
The Bridlington Harbour Bill Report was re-
reievd, after some conversation bet‘veen Mr.
Wortley, Mr. St. Paul, Sir M. W. Ridley, Sir C.
Monck, Lord &c.
Petitions were presented from, spirit-dealers at Greenock
and o,,ltiorgh•
The Committee on Irish 'Distillation was enlarged to 28
ilembers".
A Petition was received from distillers in Tipperary.
A Petition final cotton-manufacturers at Stockport was re-
ceived,
Mr. HALL obtained leavito bring in a Bill to prevent the
tlectrnction of sapnoea.
Two Petitions were presented from places in Devonshire
respecting tithes., and were referr:d to the Committee.
.Mr.lllltCH gave notice of a motion early in June respect-
Lig the Trinity Corporation.
PAYMENT OF TAXES.
Mr. BROUGHAM pi:eSelited ka petition from some
imiividual, complaining of the conduct of the In-
come Tax Commissioners.
The SPEAXBRObserved, that it prayed'for a con-
sideration for a loss of money, which required the
assent of the Treasury, which not being given,
the petition was. withdrawn.
General FERGUSSON adverted to the eircntn-
stances under which the income Tax was collected'
in Scotland, and particularly specified the county
of File, where many farmers had been compelled
to pay their own tax and the landlord's tax. The
Chancellor of the Exchequer, he understood, on
4otne representation made to him, had said, that
nil Scotland was a year in arrears to this tax. He.
»ientioned a case of great hardship upon a Gen-
tleman in Aberdeenshire, who had leased ota a
sainiOn fishery at 1000/. a year, but was obliged
to take it into his hands, and. for several years had
not got aboye 1001. per annum for it ; yet the
Commissioners insisted on rating it at 10001. R
year he hoped that this mode of exacting tun-
ney, in the last moments of the existence of this
tax, would tend to make its memory, detestable,
so as to warn future Ministers against attempting

s revival.
The CHANCELLOR of the Exertrqusti said, be
never made so broad a statement ; but only
t ha' 'le believed Scotland was in arrears,and that be
vvoukt make infinity into the subject mentioned to
lt was never Wended that the operation of
the tax 3lioultt be attended with any diSadvanta-
geous'circumstances in the North different from
those in the South ; nor did he know why there
was any peculiarity in its operation in Fife. What:
ever evil had occurred must have arisen with the
Commissioners, who were not appointed by Go-
vernment, but by act of Parliament.
The Local Militia Bill was read a second time.
Mr. BROUGHAM. observed, that great anxiety
prevailed in the country about the mode in which
the remaining port of the Income Tax was to he
levied. lie wished to know what relief was in-
tended in Scotland, where people bad been coin,
gelled, to pay with the allowance of only five
days.' •
The CHANCRLLOR of the txcnactuatt, intimat-
ed, that be shoultV propose that half should be
paid in July, and to give the Condnissioners power
to extend the time for paying the other half tilt
the sth of January.
Mr. BROUGHAM wished for information re.
specting the practice of charging an ad valorem
duty on carriages exported, which were fregnent-
ly private carriages, that ought no more to be
charged than portmanteaus.
The CHANCELLOR Of the Excßenueksaid, that
there was a difference between private carriages
and those exported as articles of merchandise.
Mr. GORDON moved for aft account of the ex,-
pence incurred, and .an estimate of the intended
Expenditure, in the new Penitentiary-house.—
Ordered. .

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copy of Campbell's memorial, praying re-
mutteratton from government, was presented.

SLAVE-REGISTRY.

Mr. HART DAVIS presented a Petition from a
number of persons at. Bristol interested in the
WeSt India Colonies against the Bill for regiitry
of slaves.
Mr. PROTHEIMS said, that many respectable
pevsons who had signed this Petition were as great
enertiies to the slave trade as any (3entlemau in
that flouse. The Bristol merchants had hononr-
abv and voluntarily abandoned the trade before
the vote of the House abolished
• Mr.I3ItOUGHM4 thought the conduct of the
Bristol merchants very meritotiOns in
,doing this
before Parliament made the trade a felony : but
they certainly now showed great zeal on the sub-
jeet, which was rather mysterious. He could not
see what immetliate interest they had in the West,
India Islands. They might be consignees of 'West
India produce,.and yet they came to the house
us if they had lOcal interests to he affected by the
Bill. lie hoped the discussion of the Bill would
>tiut be postponed ninny days longer.
Lord• .was desirous of knowing
what course the Hon. Member (Mr. Wilberforce)
itireoded to pursue, and whether he ihonglit it
he quite consistent with his views to make
sent' proposition on the subject this year. The
fact was, that negociatious Were now carrying on
with Foreign Powers which might be affected in
various ways by the proposed measure. A regis-
try might he considered desirable, as giving in-
, formation' respecting the black population. He
would suggest to the Hon. Member, that the ob-
ject, involving so many questions of importance,
conld not be fully accomplished but by the co-
Operation of the colonial legislatures. lie en-
tertained hopes that they would be led to see the
wisdom of
_some proper plan of registry, which
Government meant to recommend strongly
to
the Local Legislature's. By :the systeM of re-
gistration now proposed, a great tax would fall
on the islands.. The local assemblies, if they 'took
tip ti:c business, conld do it at a third of the ex-
pence, and more effectually.' It was desirable to
reserve questions Wilich interfered with the sepa-
rate rights of Jegisration, and which should be
brought forward as rarely as possible. We could
only act iii this Mattel' in a StlpelitllVlltlalg MISC.
11r t shMild show a disposition Cr, confide in the
Aceinl3lii2.:": -We. Were flow negoehiting with
Spain, the man inyortitat rower cut:hected with

the question, and whose islands were so nmeh in-
termixed with our own. He had hopes that the
Coionial Legislatnres wonid do something, and
that the Hon. Member would decline to press his
motion this year. He had inirted understood his
oleket to be only :6 bring in the Bill this. Session,
and get it printed, and then let. it lie over till next
year, A delay in bringing it:,on could not be pre-
Judicial to the lion. Member's objects.
Mr. TATI.Oa recommended. the atloption of the .
Noble Lord's suggestion, and stated his opinion
that 'the West India Legislatures would be dis-
posed to do -rehat ever lay in their power. .
Mr. Wit.cer rottc could 'out refrain from oh-
serving, that he remembered too well, thit
1797, under all the pressing circumstances of the
none of the colonial Assemblies, though
erged by the most respectable persons in this coon-
try, and even by Government, adopted a single
measure towards the object then desired-'--so little
influence could be exerted' among them. The No-
tile Lord had certainly a right to make this appeal
to him, and lie admitted the full force of it for the
reasons he had assigned. He had not intended to
press for more than the first reading this Session. It
rvottid not make notch difference it) his ()bite!, if.
he 110 W said that he would- bring it forward early
next Session. He was aware, that it the colonial
assemblies 'Were so disposed, they could attain •
the object more really and substautially. lie
would 'tot excite any debate at preient, thou 0i
he might -.perhaps think that he c could form no
sanguine expectations •fron) the colonial legisla-
tures. 'l'he circumstance of foreign negociatioos
pending had kept him back so long. He was aware
that the apprehended evils from bringing the mea-
sure for Ward might also attend a full discus-
sion of the subject. There were one or two
.considerations respecting a registry that might
possibly affect the negociat ions. Ile hoped, how-
ever,.that discussion on sonic points would be un-
avoidable. •Probably on that day se'netight, he
might move for some papers that might lead •to
discussion ; but he did not feel warranted in press-
ing the matter further this year, as it might iejtire
the cause itself. He was 'obliged to say some-,
• thing, as gentlemen who had read some pamphlets
which had been published, might think him want-
. log in the common feelings of human beings, if
he were to let the question pass by. According
to what had been said of himself, he surely must'
have some especial providence toanke care of hint,
Or he must. have . been banged. before' now. Ile
recollected a remark of Mr. Gibbon respecting
some misrepresetitat iOns with which be Wes charg-
ed. He observed that he was not angry about it,
for every animal had its note, or howl, or erv,..and
its own modes of expression suited co different
companies. It was muck the same with men:—
. (Hear !) . _ _

The petition was orde're& to lie on the table.
FINANCES.

The CHANCIMLOR of the .EXCIFEQUER intimated,
that on- Monday' he intended to take a review•of
the general Ways and Means for the. service of
the and mike sonic proposition respect-
ing advances from the Bank.
Mr. GAIINFYLL observed;' that the transactions
with the Ratrk would be a bonus of '25 per cent. to.
the proprietors.
• . EDUCATION..
Mr. I/63a, after some observations on the na-
tional sehools, moved an instruction to the Edit-
catiun Committee to consider what was fit to be
done with the children of paupers begging in the
streets, or carried about by their parents and
others. Agreed CO.