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London, England, 1816-03-13 00:00:00

PTS.

Thotim Perry, Liverpool, cuurrr, :Xpril C, ant. 1.24, at
tivylre, at the George Inn, Liverpool. Att,rilles„ Mr.
Liverikml,.irr Mr. E. Cluster, Shiite

Thum4s G..e.A)ntia4g, gurref,:calanOt-inakrr, March 114
atutAprii.U.; at 41cven. at I, LutAdoit.- Attor-
ticy, Mr. tiiag,j,.:felt,li.::-street;

loltn•Smethurst anri 44?-teph Whitinnre, :Manchester, rater-.
chants, April 9, .9. and 23, at ten, at the t)og Tovc,n,
ftlarichera.a. Att,,rnaf, Mr..Haatzsoo, Aino.mester.
Richard ?Mina, 13nrtholornews, Sand,:ich, NclAt„
.buyer
and 'viler of tett March ~15, at six, 26, arril•Aptil at,
eleven, at 4.:mitterhury. AltornicA, Mcs.srs..
I'luutnier an.: Son, C.taterbury, Net h ersole, tr,s,ex-
•
streei, ';-trand.
John May,ru, I'.!oke G.dAing, Leictisteraltire., farmer. March
in, at six, tt , and .11,111 at
.elercu, u. the items
• Jun, Ilnieli!ey.
,Messrs.. Kioi; and
Mary itriberts, Shrew,..buq, dealer, March 19, at live, arid
: April 23, at ten, at the I.l4vcii and 4,11 Ipn, shrewsintry,
• Attortnes, blesst,Tarialit, Clarke and etimieery-,
Lute, or Messrs. t:olnits and 'Milton,
.Saintrel Junta, Peter...Atari:lt, Hereford, gracer, March tli, Cale
and April eleven, at Oa C4taclt and liorsos Inn, He-
reford. Attorrues; M r.t)ixen, Iloretortl,
and Leachinan, (icarge-street,
Thomas Shaw, sherton, chant.
2. at I:ite, a: at elev,u, and ca, at tit e, at the ArinS
Inn, I:Jr:Jilin'. Attorney, Mr. It. Tipinfig,
Witliain Oakley, Church-street, Iterition,,,Q, r,,aitstitpler;
March Ili, 30; and April 2.4, at <me,- „t t.iulrtiuttl. Attur-
Mes.rs. Briiiges'and o,l:nter, Itiat Lion-Nlaare.
Edmund Crattetiden, Sittinghourne, leilt,„srii•miall, March
its, April 2 and '23, at tote, at Attoi-
liteß, Mr. G. Ntistio', I:sax:I-Street, Strand; or AI
thathaist. •
Alexander Genrge 'Milne, Mitre court, Perielittreh-street,
March iii, 23; and April 23, at eleven, at (jinni:-
-ball. Attotitiesi Nlcure.,Ei.aye, Freshticid and Kaye,- Near
Ilankshulidiup.
Joieplt Stocks, Jantaiyi-row, Bermondsey, ,rope-rnano foe-
Nl•tren awl April 23, at elevan, at titillation.'
Alto. it ich Messrs, and Stullow,finugb-Stpriire,'Ficet-,
striTt. •
Daniel Pullen, Spread Eagie-couri, Threadneetllc-street, et-;
change-hrulter, lisitll 114,23, anti April 23, sa.t elet• on, at
tibildhall. Attorney) Me: Bellamy, Angel enurt, hrog-
r4ortoutst rect.
itoliert eut,l4c. and. Robert Sutton, Flitrtownpon-tionther,
Lincolnshire, eurn-raCturi, I:.trelt 2*, -29, will April 43, at
eleven lathe Dog and IJutili, Tartan, log Aton.ti ti Gll.'
Attu! nics, Itossur: ittid Syn, 1.;44-tlett's-nUth.linga,
ou Mr. It. Sahtiwith,
Ktlivard IVoilileoLk (Routh , Bury St. Edninad's, Stnrallt, Vie-
, limner, March 2tii at seven, 'JTJ, add .Ipril 29, ist.ethism,"
At this Utter /I'4 head lint, Ipswich, Attornies, Messrs.,
lirtnue and l'sitittaltt, Ipsuicli, and Mr. Walker Cltall•FerY"
lane.
Willimn Bartart-in-lientlal, Westraurlamli'
April e, at 'six, t, at tircli-h, anti 23,- at at tho,.King's
Lant.4,ter. .:krturities, Messr,t! .I.slo4Wal,
'Cu. New Loa,' awl' Messr3. Bald Win and Th‘napson, Lail-
- 'caster. • • - r
Atltircly SlOtbrithtily,- Eirklington,
but aiitt April '23, at eleven, itt
'ging% Inn, Carliele, Attarok:l, Mr; C 1 :us
"Staple's Inn and.. Mr. Saul,. L'arlisle.. •
John l atch, :1-"v1114Xil, merchant, ..A pet., 8, G. •and 511, at
sieved, ti. the (140r6C lan, LaVerfrl9l. AttOrtity 11r, Dqlll.
sou, Lirarit
' 141 te-rnerto

fair a ~.;1',ti..5114,14, 1413t1 wad tot Is.UttSk•„,i,l)tit
6: 111ii,:tlilti.)13 etttitlOry to t!lt.: eiltilii ; be-.
cmisie ifysoll several
other.ptceettiligie.te.,,liaa.been granted.opou re-0
nuneiatiool of ft44-11er leases 4• awl heennie these
Jeasestl;.,.,l bven grunted C011.5(1,;4(1iCe O&M! ob.
Itgation beveral yetti..i before beta en.
tefee.into Ity the late Doke of Qiiee:wherryi
Ithatirtily n lx.s.v lease for hitteteen.yedt3,
miring should, be required to it. iii)
by tile tenant.
Ttioie,actions werebrottgbt.betote Lorli CrEigit",
as.Lortl ectlioury 'louse ,
Out giving -a juttgotent,,ordereei purties fct rep4ll3
intornittittin3 to the tinerLlLoosle,. ,hilt the (...Ate. ,:es

came, no the 7111 con cot b.trforett)..e. Lord Jkl,tice

ocl-h., Lord iitinnaiyue,' lelia Lord
1- Robertson., who wt-lc.(11e• ;11L'0 1111)13*.lit. TbA lett
all delivered their opsnielp,.s. seplettetteir nt great
bind tetinitieti:::&hly repelled ilfo rea..7“31,4 of
!. reduction, Itelii.sustroed the .tlecl4reetor :
fiTding Urea the least to fiy;sll4ii,,• Hod till the tense*
wile lei, lied. been gleamed lay-the kate33uke of nt e
ht..rty upon the:QteensLierrytstate,'..Nverc valid and..
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'lite Court found John Ifyplop. thelenanti .g. 04,,
titlu(t It, ;i'IN emu:fives, or .t:osss kn. snn).,
'flit: Judges.. :were unaninulnsly of Opinion, that%
an heir a entail, uult3s.tne Enta,l
,pt•ci.•oly pro*.
hihited him, wets entiticti.to ACCtitt 01., a. rebuth ;a....

Blau front his tenant, and,-gr,ant r litnY teabe
ottvn lie clause' thrtt eroi untitled to 0648
h Otis, it to renew lcahes ; thv.t. Witi nor,
to iourelise the tent ~ e tikikr,.Ottit
It:ZtSCs at the old .tenti-
~itto ov-o t to taisaa boar ,fiur.
gratottors he unlit he able to, obtain,; anti that
to take grittAttuts in this 'manner, when nut Aper
cattily prohibited-by an' entail, had bqm-siwwit
Le pettedly irgal,.according to tile npinioni.of all
our authors who have.. written upon the law of
Scotland, of ..all.ottr'decitious,-01 all, our 10'11' =(l3,
and conveyancers, and the : ttotterval .practee in
the country.
It had _been stated for the executors of dui
Duke of Queensbarty,.* that the entail prohibited.,
only selling. and Alispotting, and (0,1 not prohi-.
I#it•tha heir of entatl .troan tdieneting ;• but tire;
Jtid ;es in dt:ireting their all declared,
that they threw this eifetinteiattee, oat of their,
ritind, and din they COthitieev,i a !arse granted for
Iliucteen yearsin,iu consiJeration, of . a gt hstuni,
equally valid', AketruSli alienations had been exint,*)tv.-,
ly prohibitedi/Fil:
Conmtl- for the Duke e#l- litteeletteh ad,
dtteed, a ant buthority,a We 81,ci-ion tit the..
First,DivisiOn;.by A illsP f it y cat that (:.'our.
(tortstlti:tg ,a three Judges, tigoitu4 the•oinnion
tyro) had reduced the lea6.es'gtai.ttd
Doke oi•Queensberrys *Too hia eqt3te ntailor46,
. on 4teeniti,t, at these it:tiSt.'s lui4:ll:4„be.Bif griotivd for
grasattutt, and, thet`iitlAll oti.ti:4lt ct nue pro.,
hihitedaitetiation's. _But the s of.iittr ~,A:4:01.14
Division Avere,oltattilowitilly
%vele uot_houtid by_ that IV"' 41 a,
wanner enotempotary ‘vitit the CAM! litO-Vi eiard
thent,- and had hot,. yet received the sauctiun of +lta
1-1003 - of •

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I MPE RI AL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS, TURSMY, MARCH 12.

PRELIMINARY BUSINESS.

Tarp GREY presented a Petition from Glenden Wadi, in
the County of Nurthutuherland, setting forth the Agriotaltn,
rat Distresses of the inhabitants of that district, and ing
reliat—Ordered tie lie on the table.
The Earl of CARNARVON presented a Petition, the
ratios' of Somerset, Signed; he observed, by many thousand
occupying 25 yards of parchment, against the
musiionance of the Income''!' x, and keeping up large' and
Atnne,:essery Military EstubliAments.
The Cape of Good Hope Trade, and the Foreign Packeti
tiaslad. thr-rtgh Committees of the whole I louse, and
'were retail ted veithatit amendment.
Mt'. Clare. from the Coanissareln-Chiers Office, present-
ed an'Aecount of the Expenses of' the Commiesatiat Deis :t t-
anent for the last year; hod Mr. Alegi., from the Treaso'ry,-
an Account of the Civil List Exprnditore'rur the Year, end:
the 511, of January last; and also of the Expenses of the
airvack Department.
Twit Pricate Tills wt r* bi,9,ught :up frorn the Commons, and
lead first lime. •
Lewd' HOLLAND pte:sendeti-a Petition from the County of
Nrart id, against the coatinuation of the Property Tax .under
any modification whatever, anti alt praying'for the abolition
setSiyeettre Places ind'unneecssavy Offices,
Vt 'o tut MELVILLE:Ind Lord ST. HELENS respectively
preiented•Pititions., but in a tone of voice so as not to be
I;ist iiiet Iv heard below the Bar.
The Maryiis of LANSDOWNE. presented a Wtitiim Irani
the Town of Chippersham, in Wiltshire, against the Property
Tax.
The Noble. Marepits. then 'presented a 'Petition:front Mr.
Richard Gathorne Butt, eowplaining of the treatment he re-
celeed while in the•Kieg's Bench' Mixon, of ntit.being liber-
ated in dote time, &e. The Petition being' read, detailed the
inatters alleged in complaint.
, On the question fur, its being 'received,
The LORI) PHANCELLOtt expressed his doubts' as tattle
'propriety of reeelririg a Petition of that peculiar nature
',The Noble and Learned Lord at the moment prowsed, its the
li-test eligible way, tinitihe debate arising on the question of
the Petition being received, he adjourned till to-morrow.; and
in which feeeposition the Noble Marquis adquieiced.
ViScaunt SI pmouTH presented st Petition from Predericti
p;sq. claiming the title of Lord Pulliiner, which war
referted to the Conimittee of Privileges.
On the Motion of the Earl of ROSSLYN.certain additional
Docintents relative to the state of the Military Establith-
tuents, were ordered to.be laid before the Rouse.
STATE OF THE NATION:
-The Order of the Day for resuming the Debate
'on the above subject being read,
. The Duke of .liarsvotto rose, and after upolo-
giving for the inconvenience which he had unwil-
lingly put their Lordshipkto on a foriper eveuiog,
said, he could ;solemnly assure their Lordships
that nothing but a strong sense of his duty littd.
imprlied him to come fotw4td
put, this moss iv.
portant occasion, and a strong sense of duty
alone tiotv induced hint to attempt
.to state his
reasons-for submitting this motion to their. fiord-
ships. Them wire four great topics to Which he
should have to direct, their attention first, tie
rxtent of the.propesed peace establishments ; the
ilvternal dist:Ts:lTS tin' the country, which rendered
it otiable to support such establishments.; the
deplorable situation t the agricultural part of
the conimunity. ; and the alarming state of
Irelmid.. If he was successful in versuuding
their Lordships to go into a Committee on
the subject, he would have to direct their atten-
tion to the specific details ; he woold then he its
ft condition, from reference to ciretunstonee3 dud
facts, to apt, their Lordships, without fear of be-
In g answered in the negative, did they. belieytt the
'country leas in a condition to bear its present hur-
thens.?r They would see that a considerable're-
dnetion. must, he made in every branch of the Ex-
penditore. With these considerations should Ise
connected an inquiry, if his Majesty's Government
had, in reality, .obtained such safe and honour-
able peace as country had a right. to expect,„--s,
He adverted to the pernicious effects upon a neigh,
bowing country,. induced by the inordinate love of.
some of its Sovereigus for great Military Establisti-
particolarly referring to. Louis XIV, and
13tionsparte. In former reigns and 'better times
in-this count ry, nothing in the way of an esaen..
rive military establtslonent was thought of; we
were thought secure in an. insulin sitilat ion, and
Its the .strength ot our navy ; but,now, unhap-
pily, establishments were proleeted,:to an extent
that would prey upon the „very vitals of the
country.• The Noble Duke then glanced at some
Of the dvtails 'of the 'Military Establishment,
int, at the altered situation of. the. country, con-
tecittent upon the, return of peace. Lk. censured;
them, with respect either to the Home or the Co-
Establishnients, aslextravagantiy high. .He
then adverted to them as applying to IrelatuLthe.
state and circumstances of which had no small.
shale of his. animadiersion. He had been always
of opinion, that it would 'be more wise stud politic
to 'adopt
,a system ot. mildness and conciliation
leer the rule of that country, than .a system of
military coercion. From the present situation
of that country, they bad all devoutly .to wish
a very different. system would be soon, adopted;
that -some ',steps towards a `conciliation of the.
Catholic Botly• would be taken ; and for
,ad,
:bitting them to the pale and privileges of the
Constitution. He feared they were doomed,
still to stifiPr, especially, when they were de&
berately told, frourthe violence amt tone of their
letugeotgel, that they were unfit to be. so admitted;
lint aftestinch repeated refusals was it to he won-,
tiered ? Let the grievances -be removed, and he.
was .convinced all language of 'that kind. would
CeaSi. Another reason assigned for keepittg sods:
w- military force there, sins- the necessity ot .„its
assisting the Civil Power, aiding the Magistrates,
and "assisting in the Collection of the Revenue ;
hat its application to such uses' would he serious
objections with him. lie greatly disliked to see.
military. men acting as parish constables. Re

verting then to the topic of a laige standing army
in this country, his Grace tinotutl one of the.
speeches of Mr. Burke ulion the fumy estimates,
livherein he descanted on the injurious effects of
attempting to establish' standing:atmies in this
country by Charles, and his successor James 11.
He then passed on to our financialdifliculties, and
observed, that the interest of the National Debt.
surountedto sk moiety of the income of the country;
that if its lands-were brought to auction, the pro-
ritie would not equal the amount of the 'National

The Income Tax was reprobated and vig-
maTized by the innumerable petitioners against it;
a aaersti►re of the kind was once before thought of

1-t- was enneti-ti in the 4th year of the r44;*gn vt

Lltitry I V. ; but so apprehensive Were they.at the
time alb anch a tnensure being called into prece-
dent, that all the records of its enactment. were
dtstroved. The internal distresses of the cowl-

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excessive, that .nothing'sloiet of inVo ry coiticf
coil h-ice some of their foArdsltips of the raelay.
Lle knew irsiiante4 'where lands bad beet) let
.for three: pnuqds a6iFfor tiro pounds per acre,
chart were lately Offered rent•free. Theci"il3`'‘.6-e
crowded with persons connected with agriculture,
which was teduced to suet: a=rstate that it was
quite horrible to think of. The Clerical Body did
not escape a share of this general distress y-he
meant chiefly with regard to their tithes and of
this many of the Reverend Prelates must be aware.
In a Committee the details of an these iMporta nt
topics could be
-)lsqlight regularly and fairly [le-
fore- their Lordships. The system of tythes would
also be found one of the, greare-st.gvievAnces
land hail to complain of. Either of the varions
topies he had rererted
,to was sefficient to induce
.inqeirv, hot the Mode io combitort ion -imPeri"i".
ly called for it. He' disclaimed all idea of
to eniburrass his Majesty's
.ooverentent,itv what
•he proposed, though he earnestly wished to see
Whig principles the ride and guide ataction of the
Government, the ParliaMent, and the peoele of
this country. Ilia Grace concluded by movlll4,
" That this Rouse do resolve itself into It Com-
mittee to take into cousideratioa the State of the
Nation."
The Duke of Sussgx said, that in seconding
the motion, he should take up' the' less. cif their
Liardshins' time, :when he cousidered the able sop,
porters who would folloW up the arguments of
the Noble Duke. consiOcriug the resew mo-
mentous situation of the country, it struck :ring
filar two points especially were nom material to
lie attended to, namely, our external connexions
and our internal at range:mints.; • for if these were
not equally considered, they could draw nothing,
but partial, results. An investigatiou on the plin-r
ciple to which he referred would talon! Satlit'AC.
tiOn to tiro country, and therefore the decision of
the -House was the more likely to he cheerfully
acquiesced in. He believed notch of the present
situgion at the country Was to he attributed to
the long protracted war in which it was engaged
—.was it possible, -that after such a state for 23
years, Iliac ! difficulty should not be experienced;;'
but the cause of the immediate or actual difficul-
ties of the country nuts', in-sonic measure, he
thought, .beaalribeted to the termination of the
war upoo principles -different from those under
which it was originallYbegett. No one could more
highly appreciate the distinguished merits of the
Army, vet the cottatre should nor be carried away.
Iry iii NIS of glory and vanity ; they ought to re..
fleet whether even the memorable victory of Wa-
le:don-had caused for uei 3-permanent security sod
a permanent peace, and whether it would essential-
ly tend to the successful operatim Oftrade end corn•
ruerce. Ills Royal flightless then entered upon the
.consideration of Lie wanner which the trade and
Commerce of the country ivould be affected by the
paeitieation. 'Several of our late colonies wet.,
restored to their ancient masters, which must
cause the flow of trade so far into Inherent chew.
nels ; anti we roust expect,a vary great change
io our commercial relations; front the situation
in which they stood before the French Revolt!.
lion. The great additional expenses which
must be inedrreil, witurally induced a pro--
poirtionate change. The illuitriotts Doke then
adverted to_the circumstances in which France
and her Sovereign stood. at the time of the hue
Peace. which iuduced the keeping up a force of
.150,000 men in that country ; mitt hi that view it
woold hi a question how far it was prudent to
take such a portion of that force on. ourselves...—
And With respect to our maritime force,, it was
loeg a question, whether it was better to depend
upon our insular situation 41 connected-therewith,
or to keepat larger land force with a view to our
security another way. As an Englishiran, he
must incline to view a considerable standing army
with en eye of jealousy ; and in every free coun-
try he thiotght the greatest depeudance shotild be
placed opoo the opinions of the people, tie
spoke his sentiments of the way in which these,
greet topics should be considered with the greatest
sincerity. lie had, no wish to embarrass Govern!'
meat, but he was naturally inclined to oinitiSe
Sentitneio which were notaualogous to the Con.
stitutiort of his country.
The Earl of ABP.ntnN thought there was.ne.
cessarily a tendency in the motion before. their
Lordships cm censure the conduct of his Majesty's
Government.
„With respect to thefirat great ob-
jection,, that of the- large Military Establishment,
be court! not `deny that, comparatively with re-
spect to to former periativ, the present wets con.
siderable ; but it was perfectly obvious that the
cirCeonstancesof this country anti ,of Europe had
materially altered since those periods, and in'a,
a way-, he thought, to.render an increased Esta-
lilishment not.oulyiestifiehle but necessary. 'The
real question, therefore, respected the extent of
the-Establishment. Within the last 20 years such
a change in the intelligence and the progress of
the human mind had operated ; such an' individual
tendency to spirited. inquiry and. bold discussion,
that lie thnugltt nothing serious was to be appte-.
!tended front. the effects of -any army they were
likely to see estaidished in this country. ,There
was no doubt' he believed, 'bet the grand ob-.
jour of all ,our policy might to he the preserva-
tion. of peace in Europe. MuCh of• that de-
pended upon the interuAL state of Trance, and
proper.. anion amoug the other -powers, of +'u-
rope. Though Napoleon wets in our power,• and
lilt -enemy was destroyed, still the instruments,.
and mpeh of the elements, of that Tower,
existed, anti may, if not properly guarded, .he
again brought WI) action. Though much of'
the. Continent was in a state of armatnent, yet a
portion of that was governed by those who were
liable to the dominion of bad passinns ; yet, if
peace was-, preserved, it wOuld in a great degree
depend upon the preponderating influence of this
country. With 'respeet to the alleged ancient- pa-.
'icy of this country to 4cpurlitt itself from thaCoo---
tinental=States, he did. not,believe. it near ever the
practiceotEtiglend, in the best times of her history,
and certainly not in these which theNobleDuke.pre-
ferred,to-foilow such aline of policy. It was the duty.
and the glory of this country to preserve the bat-
lance--it Was thegreat end of all Our endeaVours--!-
the great-object of all our wishes. The continu.-

*rice oPouth a sysi eat would best accord %vitt) the
credit tiiii Comply had acquired in the eves of
Europe, which iesidted from her Constaucy

Lion in success. In this view of the snhject, it would
he the height of impolicyto reduce our Establish-
ment-.ln future emergeneiciit could not.be-restored
without a ruinous expense; -W possibly•never to its,
present "statefafperfeetion. 'He was not disposed}
to deny that. a considerable degree of distreSs ex-
isted throughout. the country, to meetwhieh great
sacrifices should be made ;. but at present none
of. the seeessary.c.stablisliments
fi teti—ate relief would be affected by the wisdom of
Parliament, by Means of rigid economy; and the
application of other measures. The abolition of
the Property Tax may tend, insteatifeeetanally
eelii'a iu to.ogrgravate the distresses at the.coun-
try ; and with ,re-;•kpect to. the establisol4elit for
Irelatol. he thought the Noble Duke himself was
twell,iiitin of the state of that coootrx to
entertain an idea of its dintioetiop7 -roas present
site:ohm of Ireland, he. judged, proceeded from
very different cause's than thnse asserted by the,
Noble Duke. The best mode of etnedying them
would be by beginning with a general system of
-instruction, which would induce hul4its of indui.-
try and order. The measto es contemplated by the
Noble Duke would be attended with verydiffereut
cuirsegnenees. •
The Earl of TANlClticK.expressed- uis anxiety to
have followed the Noble Duke who. brought for-
ward the present motion, as far wily as his oh-.
servatious had ,been cunlined to the state of ire-.
laud, because the high sitoatiou once fiaed by the
Noble 'flake in the iodine councils of that coon..
• try entitled his opinions to peculiar attention. tic
agreed that its situation did can for inquiry-an
inquiry conducted without prejudice.' or party
feelings—an inquiry entered into with tut eqaal,
desire ots all sides of redressing the grievances of
that unfortutiate.anti ill-used conntry. When he
applied the term " to !rebind, he did
riot mean to say that any ill Usage had proceeded
from either this or a former Administration'. The
Noble aike had indeed said, that Ireland Was
at present treat, ii as a conquered- nation,' be-'
Cause al) army of 25,000 mcii was deemed neces-
sary- for the -111flinICitaliCe its tranquillity. But
it to enforce obedience, to the laws, to protect the
peaCe'able'and loyal part of thecommunity, and to
, collect the revenue, was to treat a people as it they
were conquered, his hope was, that Ireland might
continue to be so treated. lie apprehended, how
ever, Iliac the cautti4 of the misery prevailing in
that country lay notch deeper :* believed that
conciliatory disposition iu a Goyim:intent was
Ways lirt.kitletiVe, of good, but he thought also abet
precautions were sometimes neeessary.. Ile would
ask' the Noble Duke, who, frOm his oPltorto.
nities, must have had ample meals orinforming
himself on thesubject,whether be really considered.
that what was vulgarly ealledCatlialic emancipation
would be sufficient to remedy all the evils existing
in the franie Of Irish society ?- Could the -eiretttn,
:stance of a few Cathidie Noblenien sitting. in that
and a hew Catholic Gentlemen i,ttlae other,
Tat is;, end at once to that system of ouutder and
plunder which was, the ebullition of a half-eivil4ed
peasantry, instigated and Set in action by a few
concealer! and'disaffeeted villains ? tie meant no
insinuation (for "such' stn insinuation would be
false), that thy; only disterhers of the public peace
-were of the Catholic persuasion. Catholics and
'Protestants Were ton engaged in
these atrocities, and it,too often happened, from
their extent and frequency, that the innocent Suf-
fered with the guilty. The, employment, hOw!-
',:ever, tri .soldiers hi the collection of the revenue,
might be justified by the practice necessarily re-
sorted to even in this country. He could assure
the House,-that front habit as well at education, he
was firmly at tached to the principles of the establish-
ed church, which he Wished`to see'preserved ih till
its tespectabilityred splendour: bat iu the actual
circumstances of Ireland; the system of teethes, he
felt it bls ditty to state, pressed witlsfpeculiar bite&
ship on the peasant. ,There was,nothing of cer-
tainty in it, and while the Catholic peasant knew
'4ot: what lie irad to expect, he at the same time
had to support atwitter class of pastors. The fault,if
:faith it was, of this country was one of centurie'
:old, and exhibited a melancholy Story, into which
header,not intend to enter. It might be obseri-
cl the epoch. of the tevolaition, .that 'event which
secured the' laws and libel ties of this coantry, had'
'beat, to Itelandi period of sorrow and of degrasi
Ration, when, by a misguided attachment to -the
'baoished hoese of Sttlatt, it became the scene a
civil war, famine, and oppression. It would be
tedious were he to state all the instances in which
the ;English legislature had been swayed by jea-
lousy, wht-tiever there appeared the slightest
prospect of ailvencement in the manufacturing
and -ogricultoral • interests of Ireland. This po-
licy euntinued to be acquiesced in by the Irish pea-
pie, because they were entirely under the controul
of.a,few fatal-owners who subjected themselves
to tyranny for the sake of domineering at home.
-A declaratory late was passed iti the reign of
Geo. 1, which asserted the right of the British
Parliantent, in all cases, to bind thepeople of that
country ; and it Was not till the year 1782, when
we 'found it impossible pay longer to spare a mi.,
litary foree, that we allowed Ireland: to protect
herself, which she accordingly did, It.was then
shown, that although a Freuch fleet might ride
unmolested in the Clralinel, not at Frenchman dared
to plant bis foot in Ireland.. Her darlirig inde-
pendence was then achieved; but it Was of a short
duration: the minds of her population were agent
exasperated by religions, quarrels, and tainted by
French principles, and the Union necessarily fol-
,low.ed.. Whatever might have been the objections
to the measure,' its necessity, lie thought, was
placed beyond dispute ; but the enormous taxa-
lion that bud since fallen on Ireland had made tier
pay dear for its advantages: Before that event,
het whole debt, was one million; at present, her
,whole income was absorbed by its annual interest:
The hearth money was a grievous evil, and whilst
all' these causes-of' disorder Were left untottch-
ed, he' feared it Would be vain to expect to see
at resident gentry performing the fonetions `of the
magistracy to that part of the Kingdom. He
trusted that he had, iii these observations, steered
cleat from, any party bias—it was too seriont a
gist tai Ot
htts
to h ,
ane n t
si)andrece. hoef
oi,lsubjecttres fsioonplavratit abgeistya tsitoenm.
otaxation ;- and, perhaps Some re-
litg'i?)l.ll2llll?Cir Jury p
ellto Ning the residence. of the higher ss
well as inferior Clergy, might be attended with

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terested In' the prosperity of that etiantry, antthe.
lieved that, instead of a source of debility, it 1110 c
be rendered, by a wise and moderate administra.
tion, the best bulwark of the empire.
'De 'Nog
Lord concluded by expressing a high opinion
the equity an& impartiality displayed by the IT
sent Maim Government. #
The Marquis of litmc-xismottatt coasicleredtl
the speech of the Noble Lord who addresf
them last, contained in itself the strongest reas
fur agreeing to go into the proposed Commit
If atter that speech they refused to emptire
else state of Ireland, it would be to bola 0'
the population of that country that for eve
should be kept down by the' military tot
Great Britaiu. In 1782 we entrusted the
lion of Ireland to her own volunteers ; an'
wis..the reason Why we could not non; trust
population of that country I But the people
countries had been insulted by being
the wer had ceased, but that no decrease.
[no-diens was to be the consequence. This:
maintenance of a large scanning airily,
H'sutlicient reasons for establishing the
sought for into the state of our externs'
ternal policy. He wished to knots
contrary to all former experience, peace
be the
harbinger of economy 1t %%IRS
military amen' of despoti3m was Intel
forted upon the country. In a IV":
-liy.the Librarian to the Regent-, 'ell"
Jams 11., there was a docunment pa
be the advice of that weak Monarch„,
1.
!me stated that the Habeas Corpus
couvemmietit to a Sovereign, as it °5
Ise at the expenee of maintaining a
,arniy to keep the people in ors
somewhat singular that similar 5,
peered to
,be entertained at'present,
was told by Ministers, that we -we!
found peace, why then were we
Vet fit of such a' state ? Our h
either be diminished, or we ought
what the danger %vaa which requii
large-army together with the mm
tenmle& that it wai not 'meccas
,very large garrisons in our colt
were jealous of France being
to wrest theni front us. As
large force in the West Indies
sibit turbulence of the Blau
whom the Noble Lords of
the House we had conferred
other benefits, it was an idea w
itivestization. lint the truth
it new COlony was acquired,
in what respect it could be mr
this country; the only.inqui
spectiog it was, whether it
vernor and -all his suborm'
were told'that the fOrce
by the company ; but wet
'Jana at this base of day as
India COmpany would pay
pence ? The expeaice of a
tit e rniilioris, and there
&lit to the Amount of fc
more. Upon all these
that the inviry called
ought to be acceOed-tmia
:Lord &ESSINGTON at
considering it perman
_have a large Military E
state-of the Continent
time Constitution from I
was thowitmg a scandt
spect to the state of I
Ointment of 25,000
,its safety. The mi'
created wealth : it et
pose of his meat, w'
mand fur. The cal
,principallyfrotn the
the sources which
of wealth being ari
United Empire.
that 4411 a state
produced a return
Ireland Would ex,
and be relieved c
present press SO
Lord Mintili
-food to be. plod
The Noble Lor
rtout.t.be NON
etmasery,to go
niatea,
:is, that
for a ;notion
had stated n the:
ourselves to)
ourselves to
preamble of
as a standin
peace to, pi
first timing
be to mov
-let. If if
inquire int
be for tine
meat not
ferent
thing not
warrant I
subject.
proposir
Ireland,
up tar I
year ha
time of
13,00 C
in Ire;
.Magic
into
that
been
able
had
con
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tat
flu
tb
ill
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