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then, they could not be in more favourable Circumstances 'd.
trying the experiment en wear than they *ete hoer: He tonic(
only add that there *as another reason why he considered they
cerise to a consideration of the sugar duties this year,
under favourable circumstances. His Hon. Friend, who was
not now in his place, the Member for Nottingham, stated to
them what were the grounds on which he voted against the
sugar duties last year.-a-" Don't stippose es," he bald, such
narrow-minded penple as to allow any alteration in the sugar
ettties or the timber duties; that was all very well last year,
but now we are able to express those opinions which we
always entertained. Timbe: last year meant popery, and
sugar meant revolution, and we were opposing, not the sugar
duty or the timber date, but a Government of Radicals and
Papists."—( Great laughter.) He (Mr. L. ) was sorry the
H. n, Gentleman was not in hiS place now; he hoped he would
come down in the evening, as he thought he had a right to
his vote. He would only conclude by reminding the House
that they were called on to determine this question at a period
when it was one of vital interest and importance. Her Ma-
jesty's Government had advised her Majesty to issue her let-
ter, in which she had called on her opulent subjects to
administer to the necessities of their peorte fellow-country-
men, No doubt the call would be responded to with that rea-
diness with which the wealth and property of this country
always answered such appeals ; but he would venture to say
that the House had an opportunity to-night of conferring a
boon, of more advantage than could be done by the letter, if
they would accede to this motion.—( Hear, hear.) They would
at once open new channels of trade, and at once reduce the
price of one el the greatest nectes tries of life. He
trusted this appeal would not be made in vain. It
eels with the Utmost disappointment he heard the an•
noubeement of the Right Honourable Baronet the First
Lord of the Treasury that he meant to exclude the sugar
duties from all amendment. He could not help suspecting that
that course had been adopted, rather through a determination
to adhere to the course they pursued last year than any sound
policy. Sure he was, at least, that the course the Govern-
ment. now adopted was strap sly inconsistent with the principles
which bad been ennounced by them in the course of the dis-
Cutsions which they had already had, and especially inconsistent
with the desire which the Right Hon. Baronet expressed him-
self to have for reducing the price of the articles of subsistence
of the people of this country; and he would ask them, if they
would be doing their duty to their constituents in opposing
this motion, when, by pursuitg an opposite course, they would
be acting in aceoreanee with those principles of trade tehieh
seemed to be unittersally acknowledged to be sound, and which
would confer an incalculable boon upon the commerce of this
country.__( Loud cheers.)
On the question being put,
Mr. GLADSTONE rose. Ho said that the flight Hon.
Gentleman had congratulated himself en what he considered
to be the altered tune of gentlemen on his (Mr. Gladstone's)
side of the House, and appeared to think that there was a ells-
position to abandon the arguments or portiont of the arguments
which were urged last year in resisting the propositions of the
then Government. He could see nothing to be abandoned in
the arguments then used.—( Hear, hear.) The discussions of
last year extended over no less than ten nights in a single
debate, and in the present state of the public business he saw
the necessity fur brevity. Thete ttas ild eentest last treat On
the stager detites With respectto commercial principles, but it
tees Contended that there were peculiar considerations, from the
connection with slavery and the slave trade, which exempted it
for a time from being dealt with as it ought to be ; on these
grounds the Right Hon. Baronet opposed the late Govern-
ment, on the same grounds as he did it now. The whole
question still remained as it was then. The Right Hon. Gen-
tleman lamented how little had been done by the tariff for
cheapening articles of sebsistenee ; that *as no doubt true.
The ;neat bulk of the revenue which they had to give away was
not on articles of subsistence, but on articles of industry ;
and in doing so he thought they were more certainly
conducing to the comfort and well-being of the reople, even
than by cheapening the articles of inv.'s).file tlignt lion.
Gentleman alluded then to e. point on which he (
stone) ehould touch very briefly—the proposition of Mr. Grant
in 18_29 1n 1529 Mr. Grant proposed to reduce the duty on
foreign sugar to 118 e, and on West Indian tb 20s;, leaning
only a pinteetion to the West Leila Over the fotelge of 8s:
The Chancellor of the Exchequer then opposed that proposi-
tion, but he did not do so on the greund of protection. The
Right Hon. Gentleman now raised the arguinenium ad honii-
nem, and said that his (Mr. Gladstone's) Hon. Friend was
wholly inconsistent. But the Bs, duty proposed under those
eircernsteecee) would 'mire keen a p:ohibitory duty.—( Hear,
tr point of fact, what the Right Ben. Gentleman advanced
as a ground of his (Mr. Gladstone's) Right Hoc. Friend's in•.
consistency, showed, on the contrary, no ineottSisithet %that-
ever in the matter. If Mr; Grant' }lion had beeh telopted,
there would have been by lOA bit the Fif reienite. 'I he
Right Hon: taentleillan appeared tothink that no great stress
nettild be laid, in resisting his motion, on the ground of
revenue.--( Rear, hear.) On the contrary, he (Mr. Glad-
stone) believed there were csnclusive objections
to his motion on the ground, of
.reveripe;
,and that
too without refers's:en to others' considerations. Looking at the
firencial eltimates of the year, he (Mr. G.) submitted that
the Right Hon. (lent eman s plan was inadmissible on finan-
cial grounds alone. He had endeavoured to consider what
would be the effect of the Right Hun. Gentleman's plan on the
finances of the country, and he would ventuee state to the
House that it wes by no fisaithi an eitraviaant estimate to state
goat the adoption of that plan would cause a deficiency in the
revenue of 600.000/., that it was a most liberal estimate to lay
the deficiency at 400.000/. The net revenue from sugar was
5,400,060 i. If there should be no increase in the consumption
of that article (and from the et-event state of teatie ttld em-
ploetnent netre seat likely 't, the Right lion. Gentleman's pro-
pesition would only admit of a revenue of 4,548,0001. to be
derived from sugar, thus leaving a deficit of 852,0001. And
what—even admitting, that an increase in consumption
took place what would be the amount to put as
sett-cfl against that sum: Why, 21t5,000/., which
would leave a dtbeit of 632,0001. He would now proceed to
another subject, to which he thought it necessary to advert.
The Right Hon. Gentleman was wrong in suppos'ng that the
only ground of opposition to his motion would be a financial
one. The price of sugar its the year 1841 was 395. 7d. per
cwt. ; in 1842 it Y-aS Lltis 2d. per'lwt., sitoltitig 3 fall in the
year Itlata e.s ceenpated with 1841. They had also terry
reason to believe that there would be a much larger supply of
sugar this year from British possessions than there had been
last year, and consequently they were justified in entertaining
no apprehension as to a rise in the price of sugar, but, on
the contrary, in looking forward to a fall. There was one
material alteration in the Right Hon. Gentleman's plan as
compared with the pl n of the late Government. The Right Hon.
Gentleman left a protective duty of 10s. on British colonial
sugar, while the plan of last ter gave a protective duty of 12s.
on sugar of an inferior description, and 18e. on superior sugar. -
The Right Hon. Gentleman had thrown away an additional
6s. without saying one void. That was hardly consistent with:
the general principle upon which his plan was founded. That
difference of 10. s. duty, given as protection to British sugar,
would be more than counterbalanced by the superior quality
of the sugar sent from Cuba, upon which cheaper -labour
could be bestowed, to an extent not in the power
of the British producer. In fact, that protection
was altogether a nominal one. The Right Ho-
nourable Gentleman had also presumed that great
stress would be laid on the tendency of the adoption of his
motion to stimulate the production of sugar by slave labour,
and consequently to stimulste the slave trade ; and the Flight
Hon. Gentleman said, with a frankness and sincerity that
would not be doubted, that if he believed the adoption of his
motion would have such an effect, he would abandon his propo-
sition. Now the price of sugar in the British market was 385.
or 395., and the price of sugar in bond was from 19s. to 20s.
If then the British market was thrown openawould it not have
a tendency to the production of a larger quantity of sugar, and
consequently give a stimulus to the slave trade ?—( Hear. )
With regard to the negotiations with foreign countries, the
Right Hon. Gentleman said, it was better to make the change
en the sugar duties fist, and then proceed with the negotia-
tions. But they were going on with negotiations with States
who had the utmmit, reluctance on the subject, and were they
to throw away the consideration for which these treaties were
to be obtained? But the Right Hon. Gentleman would throw
away that by which they could work on the interests of those
States, and then a-k them for what they were unwilling to
give. It was a material question for the consideration
of the House to know the effect of this measure on the slave
trade. The Hon. and Learned Member for Bath had said that
interference was useless, and that they might as well interfere
with the practice of domestic slavery. Was there nothing,
then, obtained by the great sacrifices of this country? He re-
joiced that there was. The low price of sugar in the markets
of Europe, had a salutary and powerful influence on the pur-
suit of the slave trade; which low price was produced not only
by the exclusion of that sugar from the British market, but by
other measures adopted on the Continent of Europe ; and par-
ticularly by the doubling of the duty on sugars by the German
Customs Union. He would pass over the growing feeling in
those c, untries themselves against the slave trade, be-
cause he would be only repeating what had been said by his
bight Honourable Friend, the Chancellor of the Exchequer.
The valuable information given by Mr. Baudinet was clear
upon that point. 'I he rate of insurance on slave adventures
also indicated the success af the measuses which' had been taken
for the suppression of the slave trade. From the year 1817
until the conclusion of the treaty in 1835, the importation of
slaves into Cuba, was 40,000 a-year. When tee treaty with
Spain, establishing the right of 'search and ether severe mea-

sures were passed, the imporatirin decreased. Iri 1838, the
importation was 38,000; in 1839, it was 25,000; in 1840; it
was reduced to 14 417. With regard to Brazil, the facts. Were
still stronger. 7n 1638 the importation into Rio alone, was
47,000; and into a'l the ports it was 94,000. In 1839, the
importation into Rio was '28,000 ;- into the entire country it was
16,600 In 1840, the importation into Rio was 7,000; the
total amount was 14,000; making a difference of 'one -sixth in
the course of two )ears.—( Hear.) He now asked the Com-

mittee if these were not most important facts ; if it was riot
most important they should not run the risk of stopping
the course of events so satistactury to the adoption of a measure

which would at once apply a stimulus of a powerfol description
to the slave trade, namely, a remunerating price in the markets
of Great Britain for slave-grown sugar?—( Hear, hear.) And
if there was one thing more than another which would be likely
to check the encouragement for the abandonment of the slave
trade, it was the unfortunate influence which the knowledge

that there were in that House gentlemen who would, at all h—a-
zards, open the British markets to their produce, must exer•
cise on the people of Spain and the Brazils. He therefore
acquitted the Right Hon. Gentleman of any such intention.
But it was a satisfaction to look back and know that it was

on such a subject the late Government were deserted in
the hour of their extreme need, and it was a still greater sa-
tisfaction to hope that the present Parliament would, by a
greater and still more decisive majority than was obtained
on that occasion, maintain its determination not to pursue
that course of policy marked out by the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman ; and in approaching the commercial consideration of the
sugar duties, endeavour so to approach it as to combine the be-
nefit of the consumer with the more important Interests of hu-
manity at large.—( Cheers.)
Mr. HUME said, that if the House was determined to put
an end to slavery, by excluding all articles that were the pro-
duce of slaves, he trusted they would exclude cotton, tobacco,
and other things, and if they did so, then he would believe they
were in earnest ; but when Hon. Members talked of slavery
abroad, without considering their population at home, be
doubted their sincerity. The Hon. Gentleman who had just
sat down. had had several new lights broke in upon him since
lasf year. He thought they ought to direct their attention to
this question as a commercial question, and to consider how far
they could reduce the duty. He believed that West India pro-
perty was never in so bad a state as it was at present, as estates
in that country had produced no profit. What was. the. cause
of all this? Why keeping up improper prices. It was a noto-
rious fact at the present moment, that a black in the West
Indies could obtain more in seven hours than an Eng-
lishman in sixteen. He believed that, by the course that
had- been adopted, gross•injustiee was being done both to
the consumer and producer.—(Hear, hear.) The course
he thought ought t be adopted in fairness to .the planter was
to remove restrictions, and allow him to carry his. produce to
the best market. Let them free the colonies from every re-
striction, and the best results might be expected. He thought
keeping up this enormous duty was second only to keeping up
the Corn-laws. He thought the Right Honourable Gentle.
man's argument with respect to the slave trade ought to be
scouted altogether. He wished, instead of his turning his at-
tention to slaves abroad, he would do so to the slaves at home.
The Right Hon: Gentleman: said that the revenue could not
bear the proposed reduction in the sugar duty ; but in hii 1
opinion, the revenue like every other national interest, would
ultimately bee At by the alteration. The people of this
.couetyy, bad riot the MeaLi 61 contributing...to the revenue,
while they -Contributed at the same time, as was the
case under a system of monopoly, to enrich individuals.

He believed f;at if tht Right Hon. Gentleman admitted fereigs
sttgar at a dot v of 30 per cent., instead of at a duty of 50 per
iieat., he would And that we should have an increased consump-
tion of one million cwt., and that would give a revenue of
5,500,000/. instead of 5,000,00 W., which was the present
am)unt. They were proceeding on a most erroneous system—
a system whi^h injured many parties, and benefited none.
On these grounds he supported the proposed reduction; and in
his opinion the course they should adopt was that of gradually,
frnrn year to year, lowering the duty, until they had adopted to
the fullest extent the principle of free trade.
Mr. P. M. STEWART said that they had had three pro-
rosals submitted to theie consideration : —The proposal of the
Governmnnt for a continuance of the present duty, the pro-
posal of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, the Member for
Bath, for a total abolition of all duty, and the proposal of his
Right Hon. Friend (Mr Labonchere), for effecting in the duty
a considerable reduction. Now with regard to the proposal of
the Hon. and Learned Member for Bath, he had no hesitation
in saying that no man alive to the interests of our colonies
could have supported such a motion. With regard to the pro•
posal of his Right Hon. Friend, he admitted that in principle it
was just; but he could not, under the circumstances in which
our colonies ,s ere, approve of the proposed reduction of the duty.
He thought that it would be unfair to expose them to a com-
petition with colonies producing slave-grown sugar, and not
subject to any of the burdens which our own colonies had to bear.
If there was any prospect of amelioration, the Government
would be to blame if they did not take their stand on the
principle of working out the experiment they had commenced,
and of which these differential duties were the protection. In
1833, by wise, because just, interference, the country gave
up the system of slave cultivation. What was the effect of the
competition into which they were forced by this measure ?
'I he cost of the production of sugar had been increased. The
colonies now were to be treated as integral parts of the empire ;
upon these grounds he could assist in bringing this question to
a settlement in a commercial shape ; but he could not look
only to one side of the qu,stioa. He would enter into com-
petition with all the world, but he protested against going into
the contest with roe hand tied up, and against those who
would enjoy at once tho advantages of a free trade and slave
labour.

Lord J. RUSSELL said the Hon. Gentleman appeared to
have argued the question without a decided opinion, both as
a free nrader and a colonial proprietor. If his opinion appeared
at all inconsistent, there were many others who had shown
equal itconsisteney. Upon the present occasion, he conceived
that the House might well eonsider whether it was not an
opportunity in which the House could evince by some practical
proof their wish to diminish the price of the main articles of
subsistence. They had heard that this was to be the object of
the great changes that were in contemplation; yet though that
was the object the Government had the most nearly at heart,
and the House wished to accomplish, somehow there
appeared to be great difficulties in attaining it,
pith respect to any of the great primare articles,
of subsistence. With regard to some articles, which, to the
working classes, were of the greatest importance, the tariff had
already been altered so as to give some relief from taxation ; on
salt, coal, and candler, and other articles, there had been a re-
duction, or revision, of taxation. With, respect to the great
articles they were now to consider : beginning with the great
nccesszry, breed, they found they could not make any great
reduction in that main article of subsistence; that for it
they must be independent of foreign apply,
and they
must consider the interest of those who prudes:eel forty-
eight millions of quarters a-year. Then they came to
the great articles of cheese and butter, and here
they found the revenue was so concerned that it was
impossible to make any recite:don of eluttyeyuphoand tchheamng.
( Hear, hear.) On cattle, and on wheat, h
ed
tdgh and prohibitory duties for touch lower once, but then it
was unfortunate that at the same time they received the un-
fortunate assurance, and from the same authoritv,that the'people
were not lihely to derive any great advantage from a reduction
in the p:ice of matt. Then in the very important article of
sugar, important from the improved hebite of the people,
which it was the duty of every Legislature to pre-
mete, he was sorry to hear that they must be
cotitent with the promulgation of their wish to reduce the cost
of stsbeistetiete They reduced, to an almost nominal amount,
the detie.i bli s'>o dt eOO Se-ticks; which never came into the
consumption of the working clasttee Irtst an the comforts of the
great body of the poor, the change was of little importance.
With regard to the great article, sugar, they smiled a dills
cults in the way. The Vice-President of the Board of Trade
could not concede any reduction of duty, and the Chancellor
of the Ekellvetter proposed the continuance of a prohibitory
duty, contrary to all the principles announced by the Govern-
meta: The price of sugar, at the latter end of 1841, was 355.
per era., and itt present he believed it was 38s. The
price hf ferelisn sugar; with the duty, was 545. per cwt.,
The difference in tne dot) pmened by his Right Hon.
Fries d would amount to 7s. 10d. a cwt.; which, said the
Right Hon. Gentleman the Vice-President of the itostrd of
Trade, would make a difference in price amounting only to
ice a lb. ; but that, he would remind the Right Hon. Gentle-
man, as It sight spear, would make a most important
differerco in the weekly' bills er the poor man. He (Lord J.
Russell), in speaking of the proposed redhetion or the sugar
duties last year, had stated that one great object of the then
Government in proposing the reduction, was to prevent. an iii-
create taking place in the price. That argument had last year
bee-h treitgd by Hen: Gentlemen opposite as absurd. He
(Lord John Russell), hosiCiref. thorsght it a sound one;
but this year he had had the happiness to hnt the same argu-
-ment made use of by the Right Hon. Gtutleman at the heed
of the Government respecting cattle and other articles. That
had been his (Lord John Russell's) argument with respect
ittowsuags treldb
to
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btoefreiedifcrouroub,t:inaTtlihoe4
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perfectlywith
witht sugar,
re-
gard to cattle.---( Loud cheers.) The Right Hens Gentleman
took two grounds for refusing to assent to this motinn—the Riot
was, the loss which must accrue to the revenue, which was es-
mated at from 600,0001. to 400,0001. ; but with respect
to the tariff generally it should be recollected that they were
considering how they tottld eaerifice one portion of their revenue
for the benefit of the people. The Right Hon. Gentleman
said that there was a deficiencey in the revenue amounting to
two millions and a half. He proposed to lay on additional taus
lion to the amount of 4,300,000 U; and he stated that the diffe-
reties., would enable him to lessen those duties which pressed in
the most burdensome Manner upon the people, and that he
proposed to do so in the manner the. most likely to reduce the
cost of subsistence generally throughout the country. If that
was the Government plan, there was nothing In which a por-
tion of the revenue could more usefully be sacrificed thin
sugar. Other articles on which it was proposed to
make a sacrifice of revenue, were not of nearly the neces-
sity that this article of sugar was of; and throughout
the. Whole range of the Customs duties no reduction could be
proposed which would be of greater benefit to the Foyle of
this country than the reduction which his Right Hon. Friend
had proposed. In a petition presented from the coffee-house
keepers of London last year, it was stated that twenty-five
years ago there were not ten coffee-houses, properly so called,
London, but that now there were 1,800. Surely it was im-
portant to the morals of the people to encourage them to use a
refreshing beverage of this nature in preference to having re-
course to inebriating liquors, and surely a high cost of sugar
tended to prevent the encouragement of these moral habits so
conducive to the welfare of the people of the United Kirgdom
—( Cheers.) Then with regard to the argument respecting
the slave trade; if it were proposed to prohibit the importa-
tion of all articles the produce of slave labour he could un-
derstand the argument; nay, if they were to take lower
ground, and to say we will not lower the duties on any fresh 1,
articles of slave produce, there might be some force
in the argument. But he found that the duty now
payable on Brazilian coffee was 15d., and that duty it
was proposed to reduce to Bd.—(Cheers.) This reduction
was to be made on behalf of slave-grown coffee—(Lorid
cheers)—so that that which with respect to coffee was per-
fectly harmless, was, with respect to sugar, an encourage-
ment of the slave trade.—(Load cheers.) Then, again, it
was proposed to lower
,the duty on American copper. Why,
the American copper mines were worked entirely by slaves
( Cheers and laughter)—and the slavery in the copper mines
was more horrible than that of any other.—(Cheers.) What
became of their virtuous indignation then ?—( Loud cheers. )
It was doubtless desirable to put an end to the high restrictive
duties on copper, but if they compared the at ticles of copper
and sugar together, he thought it must be admitted that the
welfare of the people of this country would be infi-
nitely more promoted by a reduction of the duty on sugar
than by any supply of copper that could ever come from abroad.
—(Loud cheers.) He could not understand this argument
about the slave trade. The Right Hon. Gentleman said, the
slave trade was decreasing, but that was in consequence of
efforts of a totally different description. That decrease had
been brought about by sending cruisers to the coast of Africa,
and by treaties entered into with other powers for the sup-
pression of the slave trade ; and he doubted not but that, by a
continuance of such efforts, the slave trade would be utterly
abolished. He could not see the advantage to be derived from
keeping up the prohibition against the importation of foreign
sugar, while other articles, the produce of slave labour,
were admitted ; and he trusted that, on that occasion, the
House wou:d endeavour to carry into effect the principle
laid down by the Government, that as the Income-tax had been
imposed upon the people, something would be done by the re-
moval of prohibitions to reduce the cost of living. The inflic-
tion of the Income-tax was certain ; he feared that the reduce

tiou in the cost of the articles of living would prove delusive.
There could be no doubt as to the heaviness of the impost, but

the disaprintment would ;:e great, when it should be found
that the promises of relief which had been held out had not
been fulfilled.—( Loud cheers.)
Mr. ROEBUCK supposed that the Noble Lord when he
spoke of the necessities of the people, and said that unfortu-
nately they were unable to lower the price of the poor man's
bread, thought, while he was casting a slur on his
opponents, to claim to himself the credit of being
a person who would diminish that price. That asser-
tion he (Mr. R.) tetally denied. The Noble Lord
teemed to take pleasure in recounting the difficulties by which
the Right Hon. Gentleman was surrounded. No doubt the
Right lion. Gentleman was surrounded with difficulties, and
ere this he must have felt the working ,of his own iilustration,
" that every man had his herring. —( Hear, hear.) The
"herring" of the Hon. Gentleman who had spoken before the
Noble Lord was colonial protection, and if he (Mr .12. ) had
not checked him by an unfortunate cheer, the lion. Gentleman
would have gone on to demand the re-estahlishment of slavery,
preparatory to applying the doctrine of free trade to the colonies.
Did the lion. Gentleman mean to say that the present re-
strictions upon the colonies in the Vt est Indies crippled the
\Vest Indian produce, and that in consequence they were
unable to compete with the other portions of the colonies?
Because if it was not, it was nothing ; and if it was, he ( Mr.
Roebuck) was quite prepared to say that if he brough a motion
forward to-morrow, he would be the first to vote with him. Let
him try it.—(CheerS and laughter. ) But he was the last man
to propose it.—( Cheers.) If it was not, that what did it
mean? The Right lion. Gentleman came down to the House
bound up in the West Indian colonies, and he said that they
had crippled their right arm. He said put them on a free-
trade principle; make us equal with those parties with whom
we have to compete, the parties with whom we have to corn..
vote being users of slave-labour. What was the meaning of
this proposition, but to restore slavery in the West Indies?—
(" Oh, oh.") It was all very well to cry, " Oh, oh;" that was
the meaning of the proposition. It itdid not mean that, what
did it mean ? The West India proprietors said it was of so
much importance to this country, that they must tax the lalocur.
nig classes for whom the Noble Lord telt such a wonderful
degree of sympathy and affection, that they were to tax the
labOuring classes of this country between 2,000,0001.
and
3,000,0001. per annum, for the benefit of the West India pro-
prietors: . Now to come to the way in which the Right Hon.
Gentleman dealt with the question. They did not wish to give
all the glory to the other side.—(Cheers.) Therefore, they
said, as the opposite party had a stalking horse, they would
have theirs, and that should be sugar.—( Cheers and laughter.)
They (the Ministerialist.s) had given the agricultural
classes protection in corn, and they' (the
Opposi-
tion) raid, they would not have a free trade tocorn
at all, but in one of those mystifications ;
vco,co were
shown by gentlemen on that side of the House they Proposed
an t. 4.5. duty.—( Cheers. ) Why, this was an illusion on the
part of the Right Hon. Baronet. There would be no dimi-
nution in the price of bread, and, therefore, it was illusory.
The Right Hon. Baronet said 'fairly he was for protection to
to the agriculturists. He (MI. Roebuck) quarrelled with him
on that. lie said he was for protection to agriculture, and he
proposed it to the shape of a sliding scale. What said they on
that side. They wanted to avoid protection, and, therefore,
they would propose an Si. duty. This was the first ; then came
the second, precisely of the same description. He (Mr. Roc.
buck) proposed, not many hours before. the equalization of the
duty on sugar, and who opposed Lila? Why, the gentlemen
on his
sidethe House.`l ttev said they were for protection ;
they werefor keeping out the foreign sugar; they did net want

competition, but they wanted something on that side of the
Howe; and so the Right Host. Gentleman' and the Noble Lord
came with something to go to the country with. They said
they wished a discriminating duty of 10s. This was. very
like the duty on corn.—( Cheers. ) Now let them see the
consequence. At present there was a duty of 633. upon foreign
sugar, and 245. on colonial sugar, which was a difference in
favour of our own colonies of 395. Now the Right Hon.
Gentlemen proposed a duty of 30s. on foreign sugar and 20s.
on colonial sugaa ; making, thereby, a difference of 10s. Now
this was the question he wanted answered, would the difference
in the duty of 10s. keep out the foreign sugar? If it would
not, would it not put out of the market the colonial sugar ?
( No, no.) No; why that was a kind of hocus pocus.—
( Cheers and laughter.) In the case of foreign sugar he took
the figures of the Noble Lord, the price was 21s. He would
take it from the colonies at 395. and the 20s. duty would make
395. ; but 21s. to 30s. duty made 515. So that there would be
a difference in price of. foreign sugar and colonial sugar of Bs.
Was that protection to the colonial interest ? It was or it was
not. If it as to keep out foreign sugar it would be no protec-
tion to the colonial interest. He wanted to know how they
could get out of that. Now his proposal was 245. to be paid, so
that 21s. and 245. would snake 455.; and 395. and 245.-635.,
and the difference between foreign and colonial sugar would be
18s., so the whole of the great discussion was upon that point
that there should be some distinction between colonial and
foreign sugar, and by a kind of mystification, they wanted that
the country should be benefited by cheap sugar, and the
colonies to get advantage from protection. Now, this was a
fallacy. It was either one thing or the other. It was either
protection or no protection. If it was protection, they had
dear sugar ; if no protection, it was at the expense of the co-
lonies. fie did not like to mince matters, but he was alto-
gether against the colonial system. It was a system by which
the people of England were taxed. The Noble Lord was
there to quarrel with the proposal which he (Mr. R.) had made.
Now he had something to say to the Right Mon. Gentleman
the Vice-President of the Board of Trade, who would not ans-
wer his proposition, though he did answer the proposition of
the. Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. :Macaulay). He could reply
to the Right Hon. Gentleman's proposal by saying, that danger
to the revenue would be incurred by its adoption; but no such ,
objection could apply to his ( Mr. Roebuck's) plan. Instead of
doing that, indeed, it would add to the revenue; it would in-
crew the comforts of the community, and would be of great
general advantage; and that the Right Hon. Gentleman did
not deny. Though the Bight Hon. Gentleman did not reply
to his (Mr. Roebuck's )proposition, he said it could be answered,
and he supposed the answer would be that it would give them
some excuse for levying from the people of England 3 or
4,000,000/. of money, when the same advantage could be done to
the revenue by another plan, with no harm to any individual
except those called the West Indian interests—the in-
terest of a set of barren islands, for which they had
dearly paid, and which they only maintained at the
expense of the breath and blood of this country. Where did
England derive one single advantage from this interest?
Jamaica, to the butt m of the sea, and all the Antilles after
it !—( A laugh.) He wanted the representatives of the West
Riding of Yorkshire to say what advantage had been
received by England in the manufacturing or agri-
cultural interests from the West Indies. What benefit
did the poor weavers of Lancashire receive in return
for paying dear for their sugar? He knew they had
fought for those islands, had conquered them, had lost much
money, more blood, and gained much misery. He wanted
know the advantage, he wished to grapple the difficulty
there', at its head and front. Let no one go away impressed
with a notion that he did anything else but vote away the
strength, the health, and the happiness of this country, when
he voted fur the differential duty. Yes, he would he making
the boor man—he would use the Noble Lord's own expres-
sion—pay clearly in his weekly bill, pay dear for that food
which lie earned with the sweat of his brow, from the rising
of the sun to hip going down, nay, sometimes many hours
before the rising of that great luminary, and many hours
after Isis setting. He wished he could see the Hon. Mem-
ber for Knareshorough, who was usually so eloquent a
(Wender of the people of this country in his place ;
he wished he would go to his friends and ask them what be-
nefit the weaver.; of West Yorkshire would derive from the West.
Indian gentry; he would ask of the House, he would ask of
the Right Iron. Baronet, to give them something more in the
shape of argument, than the flimsy thing with which the
Chancellor of the Exchequer commenced his statement—viz.,
that he was about to commence means for putting down the
slave trade, tit an expense of 4,000,000/. per annum, which
was to be drawn, be it observed, from the pockets of the
poor, not from the rich, for theirs would be but a drop in the
mighty ocean. For the shadow of the Quixotic hope of putting
down the slave trade, they were now about to tax the poor of ,
this country to their very life's blood.---( Hear. )
Mr. P. STEWART rose to explain, and said that what he
stated gas, that he was a free trailer, and a condemner of me-
nopolies.—( Oh, oh The Hon. Gentleman misrepresented
him in another part ; he said that he stated that he was for the
reatoirttion of slavery by the British nation. Why, he argued
in a mannte directly the reverse. There never was a more un-
founded statement than that made against him by the Hon. and
Learned Member for ilatl,

Mr. BERNAL said that before they came to a division he
hr would say a few words on the subject. To sit there for
hours together and hear certain documents read, certain state-
ments mad d, certain modes of argument advanced, to hear all
that with meekness showed more of the stupidity of an irrational
being than the patience of a rational one. But the Hon. and
Learned Member for Bath (Mr. Roebuck) was a philosopher,
:fn.! hated mystification and circumlocution, and he (Mr.
Bernal), too, was an enemy to circumlocution, and hated mys-
tification, and he wished to enter the lists of plain dealing. His
Hon. ani Learned Frlend started with one argument, which he
(Mr. Bernal) was not able to meet. He said perish Jamaica ;
drown the Antilles ; ruin your colonies. But that
(IA not convince him (Mr. B.) as to the inutility of those colo-
nies. Be would say, long flourish Jamaica and the Antilles,
and long flourish Great Britain. The well-being of the mother
country was bound up with the prosperity of those dependen-
cies, as it was with that of the counties of York or Durham.
When an [lon. Member who sat behiud him, but whom he did
not now see in his place, had spoken to-night of the expenses
of Jamaica, did not the lion. Gentleman know that Jamaica
raised taxes—that it had its poll-taxes, its parochial taxes,
and that out of those taxes the :salaries of officers employed
under Government were paid ? It was said the expenses of re-
giments in the colonies were paid by the mother country—why
was not the expense of regiments in Scotland paid
by the mother country ? He heard it said that Ja-
maica paid taxes. Why, so did Scotland. What were
Jamaica and Darbadoes ? Why, were not the prosperity and
glory of England founded upon her flourishing navigation and
commerce, her extensive marine? His Hon. Friend (Mr. P.
Stewart) had risen to defend himself, but he did not require
it. What his Hon. Friend had said was, that a most sanatory
and important measure had been passed—the negro emanci-
pation, and that it threw cur West India colonies into a most
singular situation ; that they were not prepared for so sudden
a step; that every thing had been unhinged; the system of
agricultural labour completely overthrown ; and that at the
I present moment there was not a sufficiency of labour
for the land. In the West Indies the labourers
were independent of the landed proprietors. They required
but little for their wants, and in a tropical soil two or three
hours a day were quite sufficient for the cultivation of land for
the production of provisions. They possessed land to
which they had a prescriptive right, and from which
he would y not be answerable for the consequence of
their ejectment ; and he would like to know what la-
bourer would work without the necessity for so doing"?
He was sorry to say, that the price of sugar was much exagge-
rated in the printed statements. British Colonial sugar might
be bought now, duty included, at about 60s or 61s. in London.
He had as much feeling as any person for the situation of his
fellow sufferers, but when he heard that three farthings reduc-
tion in the price of sugar would contribute to the relief of the
artisan of Birmingham er Manchester, he could not sit down
with common patience and submit to be classed with those who
wished to oppress his fellow countrymen. A reduction of 3d.
or 4d. might be a telief to them, but he would tell Hon. Gentle-
men, that though they initaht get sugar from Cuba and Florida
arid the Brazils. they never tseuld have a reduction of 3d. or
4d. in the pound. When the Nor:, Member for Bath talked of
this beam, a boon to the West India interest, he forgot
the East Indies altogether, for he should know the duties were
equalized, and that the East Indian interest would be equally
benefited with the West Indies. He did not vote on the
motion of the lion. Member for Bath, because he was an in-
terested party, and he would adopt the same course on the
present motion.—( Loud cries of " Divide, divide.")
Sir R. PEEL said he could not. waive his privilege of rising,
because it was evident if this debate were allowed to go on
between the party opposite, there would be a degree of pique
anti asperity it would not be right should proceed.—(Much
laughter.) It would therefore be necessary for him to inter-
pose between the. Hon. Gentlemen,—( Laughter.) It would
Ise requisite.to throw oil on the troubled waters.—( Laughter. )
But he hoped the HOuse would come to this practical conclusion,
that by far the safest course they could adopt was, to vote for
the proposition of her Majesty's Government, and to leave
those other propositions in the hands of the Honourable
Gentlemen opposite—(Loud laughter)—for it was evident
the adoption of either of the rival propositions would produce
no satisfaction whatever. —( Laughter.) He :lid not speak
against the motion for the [ion. Member for Bath, but he voted
against it. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman said it would
be entirelyin different, if Jamaica was merged in the sea, and
if the Antilles followed. These were the principles by which
he would convert the /louse. But he (Sir Robert Peel)
thought that calm reasoning was hardly necessary to confute
them. The Ron. Member for .Montrose wished to maintain
these colonies, and all his object was, that:each colony should
maintain itself.—(Laughter, and cheers.) Yes, but he (Sir
Robert Peel) apprehended his proposition to admit those
colonies to unlimited competition with slate colonies, was riot
the way to effect that object. He would now ask, would this
he any advantage to the artisan of Lancashire or Yorkshire ?
Was he to go to a distressed weaver of Yorkshire and to ask
him what so as to be got from Jamaica ; and if he gave hire an
unsatisfactory answer, was he to ask the same question with
respect to this country; and, upon such grounds, was he to
state that he was prepared to dissolve the Whole com:ection
with this country and the colonies?—(Hear, hear.) If that
was the course the Hon. Gentleman was prepared to pursue,
they must resolve their powers into their own shores, and try
what England could do against the world.—( Hear, hear.) He
would ask the House whether the Government was not intitled

to demand its confidence with respect to this
proposal.—
(Hear, hear.) The proposal was, that for another year year
the annual vote on the Sugar Duties should be granted. That
was the proposition on which the House was called upon to
decide. He would ask had the Government taken a course

with respect to the amendment of the tariff, which disentitled
it to the consideration of the House ?—( Hear, hear.) He would
venture to say that the weakest of all interests in that House
in political votes was the West Indian interest.—(Hear,
hear.) It might in an unreformed Parliament have been
powerful ; but, looking at it in its present state, he
thought it would be a most unwise step to create enemies
in England for the purpose of supporting the West India in-
terest. The Noble Lord opposite had taunted him with re-
spect to the course the Government had pursued ; now, he
had been ten years in office, and he had never proposed any
alteration in the tariff ; he had never proposed to alter the

.
duty on the importation of foreign cattle. What, however,
had been the course pursued by the present Ministry. They
had done all they could to give a facility to the impor'ation
of foreign cattle. When the Noble Lord talked of the fear
of offending powerful interests, he would ask, had he net run
as great a risk as Minister ever ran, when he saw a hundred
Members prepared to vote against him, and yet was deter-
mined to proceed ? The Noble Lord had put forth a propo-
sition entirely different from last year, and he, therefore,
could not blame them for opposing a proposition which he
now opposed himself. lie could not agree with the Hon. Gen-
tleman who had spoken, that the reductions he had adverted to
would be disregarded; he went upon a different principle, consi-
dering that the increase of small savings was a great good.
But he was not prepared upon that ground to incur a risk of
a loss to the revenue of 600,0001. He had been told that the
Income-tax would be more productive than he anticipated, and
that, therefore, they should diminish the duty upon a commo-
dity which entered so much into the consumption of every class
as sugar. Now if he had yielded to the argument in each par-
ticular case which might be urged, he would venture to say that
at the end of next year, notwithstanding the Income-tax, he
would have a deficit in the revenue amounting to 2,000,0001.
No doubt it would be a great advantage to re-
duce the duty upon wool, or upon cotton, or upon
various other articles; but it was impossible that a
Minister of the Crown could recommend extensive re-
ductions in each of those articles. Again, he would venture to
say that they could not confer a greater benefit upon the people
of this country than by reducing the duty on the manufacture
of glass; but the public exigencies did not admit of that re.

diction. lie could not now consent to sanction a measure
which would had to a reduction of 600,0001. a-year in the
sugar duties, for the purpose even of gaining the benefit,
which he admitted to be a considerable one, of a reduction of
three farthings per pound in the price of that article. On that
ground. therefore, he could nut accede to the proposal of the
Right Hon. Gentleman. But he should also say that they
could not properly consider the question without also takin-g
into con ideration the effects of the contemplated changes
upon the West Indian interest.—( Hear, hear.) Ile
doubted whether the West India colonies, in which slavery
had been been abolished, could at present compete with coun-
tries its which slavery existed. That was also the opinion of
Mr. Deacon Hume, a man who carried the principles of free
trade as far as any man could carry them. But Mr. flume was
of opinion that, in considering the competition between the
colonies in which slavery was abolished and those in which
slavery still prevailed, they could not apply the principles of
free trade. Mr. D. Hume stated his opinion upon the subject
as follows:—" I cannot conceive, having thirty years ago
abolished the slave trade, and having now abolished slavery,
that any question of free trade could arise between Jamaica and
Cuba ; Cuba, with abundance of fresh and rich soil, not only
having the advantage of employing slaves, whatever that may
be, but notoriously importing the enormous amount of
40,000 or 50,000 every year; having, in fact, the slave trade
and slavery, and as the law of this country had deprived
the planters of Jamaica of that advantage, I consider that is a
question that is taken entirely out of the category of free
trade." That was the opinion of Mr. Hume, placed by him
deliberately on record. Now was there any pressure at the
present moment upon the consumer, in respect to the price of
that article, which compelled them to proceed immediately to
reduce the duty ? He found that in 1840 the average price of
sugar was 495. Id. ; in 1841 the average price was 395. Id :
while the price during the last month was only 375.
Now, let it be remembered that there had been an increase of
consumption during the last year, as well as a reduction of the
price. There hatl been a greater consumption of sugar during
the last year, absolutely and without reference to the population,
than there had ever been before. Theconsumption had amounted
during the sear to 4,000,000 cwt. The main ground, however,
upon which he opposed the motion of the Rigbt Hon. Gentleman
was that on which he had grounded his opposition to a similar
motion last year—namely, that he did not believe that it would
be for the honour or the character of the country. He thought
that they should not open the markets of this country to the pro.
duce of slave holding colonies, without insisting on receiving from
them some concession in favour of the slaves, or an equivalent.
What was our position with respect to that great country, with
which we stood in such important relations—he meant France ?
They had recently beheld France refusing to ratify a treaty which
had been signed by her, on the subject of the slave trade. Impu.
tetions had been cast upon the character, the honour, and
the disinterestedness of this country in respect to its pro•
ceedings relative to the stave trade; and be said it was of great
importance that they should not lightly take any step
which would abate the confidence of the world in the disinterested-
ness of their motives.—(Hear, hear.) This country had held out a
great example; and there was a growing conviction among slave-
holding countries that slavery was accompanied with great dangers.
In Cuba, in the United States, and in the Brazils, there was a fer-
ment in the public mind in respect to slavery—not merely with
respect to the slave tratte, but in respect to slavery itself; some
front humane and benevolent motives, some from interested fears,
were anxiously looking to the great example which this country
had set. It was impossible to see the difference of feeling that ex-
isted between the Northern and Southern States of Assetica, with-
out perceiving that slavery stood on a very precarious footing;
and the same feeling had extended to Cuba and Brazil. He read
an extract from a letter from a naval officer in Cuba, showing that
there was an indisposition to engage in the importation of slaves,
from an impression that the system would cease at no distant day,
and consequently to increase the importation of slaves was only
adding to the risk and embarrassment of that time when it came.
If this feeling had penetrated to Cuba, was it not likely that it
would prevail still more powerfully among the enlightened people
of the United States In all negotiations on this question, conces-
sions should be mutual ; this was the principle acted on with regard
to Texas and France ; and concessions front slave-holding countries
on the subject of slavery ought to be simultaneous with any
concessions of duty on our part. There were circumstances
connected with the cultivation of sugar that did not apply
to other articles, such as tobacco and cotton, the cultivation of
the sugar plant being eminently destructive of human life. He
believed that, to admit the sugar of Brazil without any stipulation
for the welfare of the negroes, would detract from the character of
the country, and its power and influence in foreign nations. A
cortlict was going on in those countries; and while they main_
tained their present position—while they could repel, by their acts,
the imputation, that in voting the twenty millions for extinguish-
ing slavery in their own colonies, they had been Ictuated by other
than pure and disinterested motives, they should be able to speak
to those countries with authority. But if, while no great pres-
sure existed, they relaxed the duty in favour of the sugar growers
of Cuba awl Brazil, their present influence would be materially
abated, and they would be unable to make those exertions in
favour of the continued progress of this great cause, on the c.mti-
nuatice of which exertions the ultimate extinction of slavery must
materially depend.—(Cheers.)
Lord JOHN RUSSELL could not suffer the debate to close
without alluding to one observation which had fallen from the
Right Hon. Gentleman. The Right Hon. Gentleman had stated
that during the ten years that the late Government had been in
office, they had never proposed to remove the prohibition on the
importation of cattle. Now, with respect to those ten years, he
had no reason to take blame to the Government of which he was a
Member tbr any neglect, for he doubted if in the course of any ten
consecutive years, so many important measures had been proposed
and carried.—(lmmense cheering and counter cheering.) With
respect to questions of free trade, he begged to observe, that he
thought it was at all times in thepowerofan Opposition, although not
by any means strong in the House, by aiding protected interests,
to prevent the carrying out of such measures—at least, he bad I
found such to be the case from experience. It was not difficult to
frame some motion by which, without giving expression to prin.
cip!es opposed to those free trade principles which were professed
by the Right Hon. Baronet and the Right Hon. Gentleman the
Vice-President of the lioard of 'grade, free trade measures might
be effectually prevented from interfering with protected rights.—
(Cheers.) Lord Althorn had found that to be the case in 1831,
when he proposed a diminution of the differential duties on tim.
ber.—(Loud cheers.) The principle of that motion had not been
impugned, but yet a motion had been proposed and carried
which effectually prevented Lord Althorp from carrying
the principle into effect.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") Some
years afterwards a motion had been brought forward on the subject
of this very question of sugar, proposing a diminution of the pro.
hibitory duty. A mode w.-)s found of opposing the proposition of a
re.olutioir founded on this very question of slavery. Such being
the result of their experiment in two instances, he thought they
were justified in having recourse to other measures of great impor •
lance, in which the Opposition could not form a coalition with pro.
tected interests.—(Cheers.) When the Right Hon. Gentleman re-
ferred to the risks which he had run, he t Lord John Russell) would
ask him if he had been met with a similar opposition.—
( Hear, hear, and cheers.) 'WWI respect to this very question of
cattle, one Honourable Gentleman had proposed that the payment
of the duty should take place by weight instead of by head.
For his (Lord J. Russell's) past, he had no preference of one mode
of payment over the other. To the one proposition in itself he
could accede as readily as to the other. But the proposition of the
Government was brought forward for the purpose of doing away
with prohibition, and admitting cattle at a moderate duty, and be-
cause the other proposition to take the duty by weight had been
brought forward with the intention of raising the duty, without
any obligation to support the one measure in preference to theother,
but because he thought the Right Hon. Gentleman vv•as proceeding
upon a right principle, lie (Lord. J. Russell) and those with whom
he generally acted, had given him their support.—(Cheers.) If
they had pursued another line of conduct, and voted against the
Government, the majority of the Right Hon. Gentleman would
not have been a large one; and if all who sat on that side of the
House had taken the same line, the Right Hon. Gentleman would
have been in a minority.—(Cheers.) But instead of that they had
given their support to the Government, because they considered
they were carrying out free trade principles. On that point it was
a subject of congratulation that the Right Hot). Gentleman was in
power, for he thought that if the late Government had brought
forward a similar proposition for the admission of cattle, they
would have been defeated.—(Cheers.) Whereas, acting as an Op_
position, they had had the pleasure of enabling the Right Hon.
Gentleman to carry it.—(Loud cheering.)

Colonel SIBTHORP, amid loud cries of " Divide, divide,"
which rendered him frequently inaudible, denied that the late Go.
moment had ever brought forward any one good measure.
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the Committee
divided—

For the Amendment
Against it '245
Majority against the Amendment .
PARISH CONSTABLE'S BILL.

tilt JAMES GRAHAM said that as many alterations were pro.
posed to he made in this Bill, he proposed to refer, it to a Com-
mittee up stain:.

Th Tithe Commutation Bill went throtlgh Committee, pro
forma.

PUBLIC HOUSES BILL.
After a short discussion this Bill w•as reported.
COPYRIGHT REGISTRATION BILL.

This Bill was ordered to be committed on Wednesday next.

BUSINESS FOR MONDAY.

In answer to a question from Mr. lIUME,
Sir li. PEEL said it was his intention in the early part of the
evening of Monday next to proceed with his Bill for the prevention
of bribery, and afterwards to proceed with the tariff:
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the
House adjourned at a Quarter to Two o'Clock,till Monday next.
FROM LAST NIGHT',LttpAZETTE.
ST. JAMES'S-PALACE, "Sums 1, 1842.

The Queen was this day pleased to confer the honour of
Knighthood upon George Hayter, Esq., Member of the Aca-
demies of Rome, Florence, Bologna, Parma, and Venice,
Painter of History and Portraits, and Principal Painter in
Ordinary to her Majesty.
The queen was also this day pleased to confer the honour of
Knighthood upon William Charles Ross, Esq., A.R.A., Minia-
ture Painter to her Majesty.
The Queen was also this day pleased to confer the honour
of Knighthood upon William Allan, Esq., President of the
Royal Academy of Scotland, and her Majesty's Limner for
Scotland.

The Queen was also this day pleased to confer the honour
of Knighthood upon Henry Rowley Bishop, of Albion-street,
Hyde-park, Esq.
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be Ensign, by purchase, vice Baines, June 3.
99th Foot—Staff-Surgeon of the Second Class A. West,
M.D., to be Surgeon, vice W. Williams, who retires upon
half-pay, June 3.
Rifle Brigade—Second Lieutenant C. J. Woodford to be
First Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Peel, appointed to the 6th
Dragoons ; R. D'Arcv Thoroton Hildyard, Gent. to be Second
Lieutenant, by purchilse, vice Woodford, June 3.
Hosrerni, STATF—Assistant-Surgeon T. Beavan, from the
7th Light Dragoons, to be Staff-Surgeon of the Second Class,
vice Anglin, deceased, June 3.
131(EVET—Captain R. Ellis, of the 27th Foot, to be Major
iu the Army, July 22, 1830; Captain H. Wainwright, of the
42d Foot, to be Major in the Army, Nov. 23, 1841.
MEMORANDA.
1 tie commission of Mr. W. Young, as Deputy Assistant
Commissary General, dated 24th December, 1841, has been
cancelled.

The name of the Colour Sergeant, who was appointed, in the
Gazette of the 27th May, 1842, an Ensign in the 41st Regi-
ment of Foot, without purchase, is Thomas Horan, and not
Thomas Floram.

The names and title of the Captain and Lieutenant-Colonel.
of the Ist or Grenadier Regiment of Foot Guards, whose com-
mission is dated 28th September, 1830, are Sir J. 0. Hony-
mass, Bart.

The date of the commission of Lieut. Medwin R. Pilfold, in
the 2d Foot, to be 12th May, 183 S, Army rank to remain as at
present, viz., 16th March, 1834.
The Christian names of Ensign Fethebriclge, of the 20th Foot,
are Thomas John Oliver Jermyn.
The Christian names of Ensign INcamc, of the 47th Rot, are
Charles Covell.

OFFICE OF ORDNANCE, MAY 31. • •
Ordnance Medical Department.—Temporary Assistant—Sur-
geon 11. Bri,coe to be Assistant-Surgeon, May 27.
DECLARATION OF INSOLVEICY.

THOMAS LONG, coal merchant, Beaufort-place, Chel%ea.

BANKRUPTS.

PETER ANDERSON HEPBURN, wine.merchaa
Powis-place, Hampstead-road, to surrender June 10, at twt*.
and July 15, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Lack-
ington, Colersian.street-buildtngs, official assignee ; Frond„
Essex-street, Strand.
T 11011 AS QUAIFE, THOMAS JONES TYRRELL.
and JAMES QUAIFE, brewers, North-end, Fulham, June
10, at one, ar.d July 13, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy.
Johnson, Basinghall-street, official assignee; Fyson, Curling
and White, Frederick's-place, Old Jewry.
WILLIAM CHAP.PELOW, bridle cutter, Long-acre.,
June 17, and June 15, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy.
Whitmore, official assignee, Basinghall-street ; Hornidge,
Bloomsbury-square.
CHARLES SAMUEL HEYWOOD and WILLIAM
HEYWOOD, warehousemen, Manchester, June 15 and July
13, at ten, at the Commissioners'-rooms, Manchester. Reed
and Shaw, Friday-street, Cheapside, London ; Sale and Worth-
ington, Manchester.
GEORGE WILLIAM LONGRIDGE, ironmonger, Sun-
deiland, July 7 and 15, at eleven, at the George Inn, Sunder-
land. Loveland, Symond's Inn, Chancery-lane, London ;
Cooper, Sunderland.
WILLIAM HARPER, merchant, Cowper's•court, Corn-
hill, June 10, at two, and July 15, at eleven, at :the Court of
Bankruptcy. Groom, official assignee, Abchurch-lane, Lom-
bard-street; Kirkman, King William-street, London-bridge.
GEORGE BOWER, woollen cloth manufacturer, Wooldale,
Yorkshire, June 11, at ten, and July 15, at two. at the George.
Hotel, Huddersfield. Corlithwaite, Dean's-court, Doctors'commons, London ; Cornthwaite, Cable-street, Liverpool.
JOHN BAINBRIDGE, ironfounder, Richmond, York-
shire, June 24, at three, and July IS, at ten, at the Golden
Lion Inn, Northallerton. Addison, Mecklenburgh-square.
London; Hunton, Richmond, Yorkshire.
HENRY WILLIAM JACKSON, wine-merchant, Haver-
hill, Essex, June 17, at four, arid July 12, at two, at the Rosa
ond Crown Inn, Saffron Walden. Holmes, Liverpool-stieet,
London ; Jardine, Stoke next Clare, Suffolk.

EDMUND ASHWORTH, innkeeper, Manchester, June
and July 13, at eleven, at the Commissioners'-rooms, Man-
chester. Adlington, Gregory, Faulkner, and Follett, Bed-
ford-row, London; and Chew, Manchester.
JOHN NOTTINGHAM, picture dealer, Cheltc&harn,
June 13 and July 15, at eleven, at the Royal Hotel, Chelten-
ham. Bey, Blunt, Johnstor.e, and Walton, I.otlibury, London;
Bubb, Lingwood, and Bubh, Cheltenham.
JOHN GOODER, fancy cloth manufacturer, Halifax,
Yorkshire, June 14, at eleven, and July 15, at twelve, at the
George Hotel, Huddersfield. Clarke and Medealf, Lincoln's
Inn-fields, London ; Whitehead and Robinson, Huddersfield.

, WILLIAM WALKEN, mercer and draper, Burton-upon-
Trent, Strffordishire, June 17, and July 15, at twelve, at the
White Hart Inn, Burton-upon-Trent. Drewry, Burton-upon-
Trent ; Bicknell, Roberts, Finch, and Neate, Lincoln's Inn-
fields, London.

SCOTCH SEQUESTRATIONS.
JOHN BLACK. merchant, Aberdeen, June 8 and 30, at
twelve, at the Royal Hotel, Aberdeen.
A. G. BAXTER and J. BAXTER, saddled, Glasgow,
June 9 and 30, at twelve, at the Chambers of J. Ritchie,
Glasgow.

PRICE OF SUGAR.
The Average Price of Brown or Muscovado Sugar, computed
from the Itcturns made in the Week ending May 31, 1842, is
375. lid. per Cwt., exclusive of the Duties of Customs paid or
payable thereon, on the imi ortat ion thereof into Great Britain'

POLICE INTELLIGENCE.
MARLBOROUGH-STREET.
Mary Ann Baher, a ycung woman of interesting appearance,
was placed at the bar, charged with uttering a counterfeit
crown-piece.
A shopman in kbe employ of Messrs. Stephenson and Allen,
of No. 144, Regent-street, silk-mercers, hosiers, &a., stated
that between fire and six o'clock on Thursday afternoon the
prisoner entered the shop, and having selected a pair of
stockings of the basest price they had, tendered in pay-
ment a crown-pie, c, which the witness immediately detected
to be a bad one, and recollecting the prisoner to be the pet-
, son who had passed a counterfeit shilling to him about sax
wecks ago, he untamed her, and gave her into the charge of the
police.
The prisoner strongly protested that at the time she offered
the money she was ignorant of its being spurious. Respecting
the shilling the witness must be mistaken as to her identity.
The w itness said he was quite positive on that point.
Inspector Plume, of the C division, stated that. she had te.
fused to give her name or address on being brought to the
station-house, and still persisted in not giving any account of
herself.
Mr. IFARDWII K to the prisoner—How do you get your
living ? Prisoner—l am so situated I cannot answer that
question.
Mr. HA ttpwlck —lf yon are expectable you would have
no hesitation in giving a proper account of yourself, and of
whom you received the bad money.
Prisoner—lt was given to me by a friend of mine, huh
whose name I still not be induced to disclose. lam placed in
a most unfortunate situation, which prevents.me from .leering
myself of the charge made against me. •
Mr. HARDWICK inquired if the prisoner was known to the
ushers of the Court or the police, and received an answer in
the negative. He then ordered the prisoner to be Yemanded
until this day week, in order that the Solicitor to the Mint
might attend and see whether he knew her.
The prisoner, on hearing that she was to be sent to gaol,
wept bitterly.
John Davis, an intelligent lad only between twelve and
thirteen years of age, but who has been three times convicted
of fe!onv at the Central Criminal Court, and undergone dif-
ferent periods of imprisonment, with the addition of being
twice privately whipped, was again committed for trial from
this Court charged with stealing a book (Bogatzky's Golden
Treasure), from out of the shoe-window of Mr. Alfred Sharp;
of No. 14, St. Martin's-court, bookseller. He was detected in
the act by a police-constable of the C division, and the pro-
perty found upon him.

UNION- RA L L.
Mal aimostAt. MISERIES.—George Davis, a lighterman
was charged with violently assaulting his wife, and threatening
to murder her.
The wife said that the defendant was in the habit of ill.treat,
ing her, and that on the previous afternoon he snatched up a
knife and swore that he would serve her as Good served the
woman at Putney. lie then approached her and mad. a stab
at her with the knife, which cut through her clothes and inf..
liteted a slight wound.
The defendant said that he and his wife were in The
habit of fighting with pokers, and that he was certain slaughter
would ensue if they lived much longer together.
Mr. COTTINGHAM said that if the parties led such an us
social life, it. was quite time that they should be separated to
prevent murder.
r Both of them agreeing to the suggestion, they left the Court
' to have a deed of separation drawn up, the defendant having en-
tered into his recognizance to keep the peace.
KENS /NG TON I'OLIC E.
Mr. Alexander Walker, a gentleman residing at No. 3,
Regent's-place, Regent-square, appeared on warrant charging
him with having assaulted Thomas Robinson, the conductor of
Cloud's Hammersmith omnibus, No. 2,442, under the follow-
log circumstances :—The complainant deposed that on tits
night of Tuesday, the 26th ult., while he was standing with
his omnibus at the Three Tuns public-house, opposite the
Palace-gates, Kensington, the ;defendant, who had alady with
him, came up and asked if he had room to town. He asked
him what part, when he said " Piccadilly," but at the same
moment two or three persons, desirous of going to the Bank,
came up ; he told the defendant the fare would be a shilling
each. The defendant, however, immediately said he knew
what the fare was, and he should pay the proper fare when be
got out, and at the same moment he got upon the step to get in,
calling his wife to follow him. Complainant told him he woald
rot take him unless he consented to pay the full fare, and
touched his arm to prevent him getting into the omnibus, when
the defendant said, " You vagabond, if you touch me again, I'll
knock you down ;" and he instantly struck complainant in th•
face a severe blow, which cut his nose and made it bleed.
Complainant said nething to him, except telling him the fare
' was a shilling. Complainant never struck defendant or offered
to strike him. Complainant gave defendant in charge for the
assault, but on his obtaining defendant's address at the station-
house, forbore to press the charge.
The defendant, in answer to the charge, said that believing
the fare for the distance he intended to go was only 6d., he told
the conductor he would pay
the proper fare, when the defen-
dant, in an insulting manner, took hold of his
repeated,his arm and
after
and said
he should not get into the omnibus, which
being told lo desist, and he acknowledged i h
he then struck his.
He admitted, however, that the complainant's language was
not insolent.
Dlr. CLIVE said, that as the defendant had not entered the
omnibus the conductor had a right to demand what fare he
pleased. Had the conductor allowed him to get in without
first telling him the fare was Is., and then afterwards charged
more than the customary fare of 6d., it would have been clearly
an act of extortion ; and if proprietors of omnibuses took ad.
vantage of the time of night or of the weather to make an in-
creased charge, they were bound to inform their passengers of
it before they entered the omnibus. As to the question of the
public right to met into an omnibus—if the proprietors pos.
scssrd the right of making bargains as to the fares (which he
considered they did possess), they had clearly the right of pre-
vent:ing persons getting into their vehicles who refused to cont.,
ith respect to this charge, as the de-
ply with their terms. W
fendant struck the conductor a violent blow, which was un-
called for, he must tine him 10s. and costs.
The defendant immediately paid the penalty, and was dis-
charged.

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At INlarlliorouvh-street, Police Court, yesterag,
George Woodhall, mho stated himself to be a clerk, and Ed-
ward Skipper, a gentleman's servant, were charged with cots-
mittirm a violent assault upon Mr. Samuel Ray, the landlord of
the Duke of York, public house, in Shepherd•streef, Orford'
street. The prisoners tried to make their escape without paying
their Bill, and on the landlord interrupting them they com-
mitted the assault, for which the Magistrate t ned them forty
shill)a,ga each. One paid the fine, and the other was sent to
prison.