The Sun.
London, England, 1842-02-25 00:00:00

EXCHEQUER BILLS.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved
for a seres of returns relating to the Exchequer bills.
He said that similar returns- had been ordered in the
other House of Parliament, and as these included one
which would supply all the information required by his
Honourable Friend the Member for Lincoln, he hoped
that his Honourable Friend would be satisfied with it,
and not press the tuotion of which he had given notice,
for a separate rrturn.
Dr. BOWRING asked the Chancellor of the Exche-
quer if he had any objection to lay the letter of Lord
Monteagle to the Right Hon. the First Lord of .the
Treasury, on the subject of the Exchequer bills, on the
table ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
had no objection to do so.

ColonerSlßTHOßPsaid, as the Chancellor of the
Exchequer had alluded to his motion, he would 'state
that, as the Act of Parliament provided certain places
in which the Exchequer bills should be signed, and as
certain Exchequer bills had been signed in other places,
they had a right to inquire were those places were, and
for what purpose those bills were so signed. They ought
to have a fair a clear statement, in order that they might
know who were right and who were wrong—where
charges ought to be brought, and to ascertain whether
those who were suspected to be guilty were so or not ;
and on whom condemnation should

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
that in laying the papers on the table of the House, he
believed they would contain all the information the Hon.
and 6lallaat Colonel wished. He believed that those
papers would contain everything essentittl to the consi-
deration of the subject. He had not the least wish to
withhold anything from the House in this matter, and if
the Hon. and Gallant Member's motion had come on.and
he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) had thought it his
duty to resist it, he should have been acting in direct
opposition to the wish of the Comptroller-General him-
self. He hoped the. Hon. and Gallant Co!onel would first
look at the papers, when laid on the table, and,
when he had seen them, if he' did not feel satis-
fied, he could give notice of a motion fur a future day.
After a few words from Lord JOHN RussELL and
from Col. SIBTIIORP in explanation,
1)r. BOWIHNG moved that the letter of Lord Mont-
eagle to the Right Hon. the First Lord of the Treasury
should be laid on the table, with the other papers.--
Ordered.

DEMERARA.
Mr. GRANTLEY BERKELEY wished to ask the
Noble Lord the Secretary for the Colonies if any in-
formation, or any documents had been received from
Demerara, relative to. . the strike. amongst the
negro population ; and also. he. Wished t•-i ask the
Noble Lord if any memorial had been received

-relative to the distress at present existing in the C°l°.-
nies ; and if so, would he state to the House the net
of the prayer, and also whether it included Demeraral.
Lord STANLEYsaid, in answer to the Hon. Gentle'
man, he begged to state that the Government had".
ceived no information relative to the lion. Ge7,i.
tleman's first question. They had not receiv7.
accounts . from Demerara later than ' the 15w,
'of January, which was received on the 16th of the Fr
.e
sent month. In answer to the second queition, iTe
Government bad received the memorial to which ta
Hon. Gentleman had referred, and whiCh included' the
colony of Demerara ; but he (Lord Stanley) had not Lisa
an Opportunity of looking over the memorial, but iu.tll€
course of a day or two he would give the Hon. Gen.o€,
man the information he required.
CORN AVERAGES.
Mr. S. O'BRIEN begged to ask the Hon. Baronet 4,
R. Peel) whether, in the event of passing the
laws Amendment Bill, the averages would -be taken
the six weeks previous to the pivsing of the g"
the six weeks following ?
Sir R. PEEL requested the Hon. Gentleman t9-**l7e
him to postpone for the present ^-iving a decided
to that question.—(Hear, and a laugh.) -
CHINESE RANSOM. vcflit
• Mr. BLEWITT, understanding that the (1
Honourable the Chancellor of the Exchequer' 113i44
no objection to ti.e return for which he pror-ii,
to move, respecting the silver paid by the Chiee:,esi,)
ransom for Canton, begged to aSti (as we underst(.l
whether the decision of the Government, as expite,ter.
in Lord Aberdeen's letter, was final or not ? ~The
stated that'after the distribution of so much of the s,
mej
as her Majesty should be pleased to allow as prizet-
to the troops coneertred in the capture, that 111-do
minder should go to the Consolidated Fund. Ile 111
this inquiry because he did not think that the 111°11
was a droit of the Crown. said
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQTTI%
the distribution mentioned in theletter of the Sec.nd
tart' for Foreign Atlairs was a provision of the la"'
not an arbitrary arrangement of the Government. to
Mr. BLEWITT repeated that, in his opinion, ty.
silver was not a droit of the Crown, nor subject Tit to
distribution intended ; and when the papers were la' rile
the table, he would call the attention of the House to
subject.

PRESBYTERIAN MARRIGES.
Lord ELIOT moved for leave to bring in a Bill o'o
firm certain marriages in Ireland, the legality ofwhich
come into doubt. He was sure it was not fleet:l3sl $
House any argument to induce the ouse to accede 01
measure which would relieve a large nutob,el.' $
persons who had entered into marriage 'lO
form which they believed to have the pr
sanction of the law. It had been the custoulid
more than two centuries, for Presbyterians and inerovriej
of the Established Church of Ireland to be
according to the form of the Presbyterian
Perhaps a very short statement of the c‘i
stances under which the measure Was br°
forward, might not be unacceptable to the Ilot►uf
At the last Summer Assizes for the coulitY
Armagh it appeared that a person named 51,„1/101
had been married by a Presbyterian clerg)'rc,
in the year le3o, and that lie was subsequent 44
married according to the rites of the Establi',,,eo
Church in the year 1839. For this he had 1.00
prosecuted for bigamy, and the Counsel emidqe.i4
lil
his behalf contended that the first marriage was i""ao
The point of law so raised at the trial was overruled, ,ion
conviction took place, but it was reserved for the deV:erlit
of the Judges, and on the first day of last Haar)" $
it was very elaborately argued. The result ryas t 'oar
majority of 8 to 2 of the Judges decided that 1110 be,
viction was bad, and the marriage invalid. 11°00ir
lieved that many learned persons in this iscotirit
try took a different view of the quo ation, t"ers
there were many others who agreed that tl.e Judges otter
right. It would be absurd for him to oil
any opinion on the subject, but he would say thatapi
the opinion of the Judges was overruled, they Nverev aUd
u
to consider the opinion of the Judges as the low:. ,yet
therefore it was that a measure like the prese%viit
rendered necessary. There was no doubt lall,ress
that the marriages celebrated by PreSbyterian clergy ere
were sometimes rendered very uncertain, becansteetioite
was no notice given, nor' was there anyu
time or place, and he believed that tber,e,etcd
no limitation to the persons who eelcu'sints
marriages for persons of the Presbyterian past-1300f
and who were not recognised by the Synod, had fro'lli,thar/
performed marriages. It was, therefore, neec:e3t,i'
that the whole subject should undergo in pre'
gation, and the course the Government lea'
posed to pursue, was to bring in a •,0
sure to give relief to persons married PlA,,,,itt
Presbyterian clergyman, and to take the rpe9
subject into their consideration during the preset' od
sion of Parliament, with a view to a full and fi,nlll,oll
satisfactory settlement of the question. The Nolo° the
concluded by moving for leave to bring in a Bill °
il
subject.
The SPEA tun having put the question, , °f bad
Mr. LITTON said that he would take that oppertaintley ba
elaining the feelings of the Presbyterians of Irelatid, f 'ounce'
been communicated to him on the subject. Since the aryl 004"
ment of the Government to bring forward the proen: to
the
sure, they were anxious to express their gratitude, both don °
Government and the House, for their prompt eon;idelaid 00
that, to them, all important measure. The Bill to be (rOO3
the table would relieve many individuals and faraifistir
great anxiety and much care. The members of. the Jounce"
terian persuasion also felt especially grateful fur the nnntary fut.'
ment made the other night by the Noble Lord the Set log the
the Colonies, of a prospective measure on the
,subject olee,''tisf/c;
earliest consideration of the Government. - A more ,
tory measure than that which he (Mr. L.) understTi lii
Noble Lord, the Secretary for the Colonies, to say 4.°,1.1 IWO
with the early consideration of the Government, CO'o" ~disk
conceived. He was enabled to state that the clergy 00d ,ecei''s
men of the Presbyterian body were perfectly ready 10,1 s ,jeti
with gratitude the measure proposed. He thought it 'ion4bo
to let the House know the purport of the corarnunicat
had
M received from Ireland on the matter. t
r. O'CONNELL said there could be no doubt thiaio
class of persons sought to be relieved had the strongest
on the country and Government for such relief. lbeirjs'ettl
tied with a full conviction that the marriages so etinielage
were legal. So far from their suspecting that those alaltectli
were illegal;even he ( Mr. O'Connell) himself, who we-4 pct hoe
familiar with the law of marriage in Ireland, would f°
hesitated; before the late decision of the Judges was giri,t 116
have given his opinion that those marriages were val"' y
only mentioned that to show that those parties were t'ewrnuid,
from having any intention to violate the law. * 4 ttlift
therefore, request the Noble Lord (Lord Eliot) to Pa5;411
Bill as speedily as possible. At present, individuals ~11,3111,e
marry a second time without committing any crime
by law, though morally guilty of bigamy. He would a di}
leave to call the Noble Lord's attention to the cat-16105°s
which the marriage law ought to 'be app.oached. The ireist,l
marriage were most essentially strict in England. In
tcle.
they were partly strict, and partly admitted of great latittrrie
Scotland the greatest latitude was admitted in the law of re' delft
In Scotland, marriage might be contracted between trViskefT
by the mere passing of a few words before witnesses. 004
tioned this to show that restrictions in the law of marl
not be essentially necessary. He hoped the Noble Len any
treat the subject with great caution before be introdne,t'oly
general measure ; but let him by all manner of Inca
us ,
it
the legality of these marriages as quickly as possible. , t
Colonel RAWDON stated to the House a fact titat.
occurred in Armagh, as long ago as the 26th of Jaw-tart° 1113 r
A poor woman applied for admission to the workhouse , ,ftCo
town, in consequence of her husband having deserted lle,recri.,
having been married fourteen years. Ha had abancloncood 11;
consequence of the state of the law on this subject, tots'. j
children were now for the same reasons described as arre
on the books of the workhouse. NoW this fact having ° daT
so long ago as the 26th of January, he could not feel that e° ;
of gratitude to her Majesty's Government that had bat tie
pressed by the Hon. Member. He could not but feel t, cootie
Government had been exceedingly tartly in adopting 11% 1,1,0
which common sense and common humanity dictate' 1"s.
thought it was the duty of her Majesty's Governmentlosid
very tirst opportunity after Parliament met, to have• ,s
the table of the House a Bill for. the purpose of refire 'Veo'
grievance. The Presbyterians of the north of It &finite 00'0
not agree with the expressions of gratitude used by t c 5
Member ; they considered the measure now iiitrode°l-escrii;
meagre one ; they naturally considered it to be of that t,
tion, when the sacred right which their ministers had, cc's
maintained and exercised of uniting the members of g 1)36,
regations, was not asserted. These were not days fetrrcler6
in legislation ; he had the authority of a fresbytel 'arise l',/
man, whose name he could give, if r.ccessary, for 51):,-ct
the Presbyterian ministers were determined not to ac ti- can
measure at the bands of the Government which did n°
on them what bad hitherto been their right. loe' siLiti
Sergeant 'J,ACKSON said it was not so very►
Perlialuent met ; the Goverement could not tOhlcaro3,,
attention to a subject of more importance. ,s'ecte9,o4,
Great excitement bid prevailed in 'lreland on the importance.
the Presbyterian body in that country, and tther.spestois„
bodies, were most anxious that some measures of api 5,11 e
nature should be introduced. Those bodies had 105 0,01,
the Government the necessity of settling the law a ~1101
in Ireland. That was a matter requiring the most..igv-
sideration. It was most injurious to meddle has wa'r,sxt
law on that subject ; but still the Government felt ft est
portant at once to introduce a measure to legalise `ins nalj
already been done. With regard any prospeelive •oft ;1
he had applied himself most anxiouslyto to the consideratiloerei,
sukiect, with a view of bringing forward solnhead
measure on the subject. The case which the
alluded to by the Gallant Officer proved
,s, re
cessity that existed- for anxious consideration b" if
prospective measure should be introduced, because be o le-to
marriages were legalised the party might be subject 0•01,5 .
dieted for bigamy. At the same time he felt no fui'onrsiatio ,
be lost in the introducing a measure to legalise those the TO
which had taken place, and the measure proposed by
nej
Lord was one for that purpose. d Leareati-,
Mr. FOX MAULE thought that the Hort• an
there €,
Gentleman who had just sat down had proved thatt in delis
been some remisness on the part of the Govermilet,t esed ss
ing the bringing forward of this measure. He B"9.lo„Eitle!e-0 ,
any measure of a prospective nature would require.o_,e 131; e
tion, but the fact stated by the Gallant Officer te.std:nv fievolgo
place proved that if the Government had done we' g:vbe
Member of it would on the first day of the seisr3ta°l;v:;,l3, t
notice of some measure f.a. legalising these 5111 '
could say how many instances of a similar nature l_rrod
tioned by the Hon. and Gallant Member, had occ,n_ a ricv,„
the 15 days whieh had elapsed?—( Hear, hear. ) „ues,„,.!
terian, he felt glad the Government had taken up tn„res',7
and he. hoped the Noble Lord would hose no time
forward Isis Bill.—Leave was then given to bring.' the
ADMISSION OF STRANGERts• nae
rat
he
ti
c''+
MUNTZ said that, in rising to submit to t noec
tion of the House the motion of which he bad giv,tns, wee„,,s.
was not his intention to trouble the Hoes 3 with aIW7,„
nor in his opinion did the motion require one• it cal ad‘7o,
struck him that as all the votes were published no r
tage was derived from the exclusion of strangers 00_,.ilectael.,,t,,
whilst lie thought that the strangers wl:o might be
would o'ol
the gallery, when the order was given, that they Wve:sfrso,o7,,,
draw, through the rush which was inlet, to the 10bb.,`,;
tided the que.tion upon which the House divided..anic,looll
the lower waititig-room when-the bell rang fur the Ite t
„ to w-lose
and was shut out in consequence of the inconvetlien ,
f 40
he referred. He thought that the Members 0 4,
should have .an opportunity of coming to , the
,01:::_vet. ca:i
statesmen, and not like schoolboys who were rerun.," ow coT:
other.—:( A laugh.) Another consideration wtn
ought I:0
Linz' to propose this motion was that they;
_at, hea,,
unnecessarily to annoy the public ? (11,e.t. •in
With respect to the gentlemen who
_z =that Lii„s.,
Reperters' gallery,- it appeared to him (Mr. Mufo)ingee
_l;7,
present arrangement was especially objectionable.s .11,„ se,
be more important, both to the publie-and to th.yliryitil 1W
that the reports of their proceedings rbliould be gl °I

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grva,
the
had.
aud,
that.

existing.in the Colo'
the House the 'tattoo
ncluded Demerara.?
r to the Hon. Gentle-
Government had re.
to the Hon. Gen-
had not received,
r than the 150
r the 16th of the prr
second queition, the
morial to which the
1 which included the
Stanley) had not had
memorial, but intle
;ive the Hon. Gentle.

the Hon. Baronet
passing- the •
s would he talf.q,ltr,
ing of the Bll',. qr4P
. Gentleman, to allO
ng a decided .ai!.!6°

6'o
OM.
g that the Wel
he Exchequer'
which which he propeitc
rl by the Chi
(as we understeeal
'uncut, as opJainc"
ur not ? The letter •
so much of the silver
allow, as prize-road.
-
'Pture, that the 1.1
ted Fund. lie 034'1
ink that the
EXCHEQugiI Oar
lelotter of then Secrd
ision of the law', oil-

Government.
in his opinion, t 11.;
''n, nor subject to tir
e°
e papers were lairl
'n of the House to tits
gyring in a Bill to eollA'
legality nfivbielibttv
ens not neecoarY I 1
louse to accedg,.s° 0
.0/
large number,
0 marriage Vat
to have the
been the custoin_
terians and utenll7°7
-3land to be lastrte,
resbyterian Charm
nt of the circalo'
LsureWas bro4e
it
able to the 1100'
of
for the county
rson named Stnith
byterian clergP°.ll•
a:3 subseventlll
y
of the Istal°
this he lead beep
ounsel employed
larriage was Walt, i
was overruled, anon
!rved for the decisi
of last Hilaryhat °
frecill
he result was t
;tided that the ce:
;e invalid. lle v°'
Ott:s
oils in this &
0 gm. stion, 005
that tl.e Judges offeref
n• him to 0",,1
vould say that eni-a
led, they were betlll,l
,
'ges as the law, 411
Ike the present tilt°
no doubt whateol
sbyterian clerglhe
dal
rtain, because t,re,
there anydelinfr,ra„
that there
3 who celebate'
)yterian persuasict
had frolinentild
lerefore, neccss3l(
undergo
Government 131'.
'ring in a 00;
s married bY
take the wl)°
ig the present
AlSed
full and final
n. The Noble 140,7,,
ing in a Bill on ta7

that opportunity 0: bad
of Ireland, as theY "ce,
Since the annonn4„
and the present n'im
gratitude, both t,'
knnpt congderatiedno
The Bill to he 13' OS
_
kb and families 'iv,
ehers of. Like IZ,
cful for the 0011,°°,c fuer,
Lord the Seere'al;
the
bcsubject meetin.6s 0„,
t. A more 5.01
L.) understond2:o
F.. 3, to say 'Would wrii,
rnment, could Ilntdoi
;he clergy and tire
fectly ready to re duty
To thought it his ba
e communieatioll°
t
be no doubt tbs .
clao
d the strongest
a relief. Tl3ey 1111
•riages so contrse74
that those tualfrilp
self, who was perfe,e,
and, would not Mit,
fudges was gilethile
es were valid. a
parties were leryttrit;
e law. Hew °tbit
'd Eliot) to pa's. bt
t, individuals
an any crime ru"isVbei
He would ab°,oll
to the caution of
oached. Tbe 1,1-01
r.ugland. Ifice. la
11 of great latitttu„,,
in the law of rollth
between tWo a
jeo,
witnesses. ll' 1' ell
law of marrisge
coJld
he Ncble I ord
.e he introduce bb.l,'
ler of means
as possible. bso
use a fact that wt.
26th of January ot
Le workhouse of ',ter
ig deserted hen 0,; to
sad abandoned lid' bet
his subject, s'n tar(iS
lescribett as bs/ acre
fact having oeen.,,to
not feel that d'beq.
t that had bete': 11.0
not but fed lo3`
a adopting ti,c,
anity dictate,. the
Government °!3,1
act, to hive 1310
rie of reiresing,ooo
.th of lk eland oaop,
e used by the 05
Ow intrOCIUCCA
cry,
;0 be of that des 04
nisters had i!"
embers of tbdr
' back
days for g°
r esby teflon c, that
ins n 9
ary, for
!d not to acceropfef
vhich did notc

so very loVa iti
till not turn r.,
portanee.---(11e300
on the stibjee„t'ivoS
ind t then retive
Ires of a rroseir,oo
s had preasi6 ii;ge
he law of liWr,,ol'
be.most grac.di- Opt
ile has-ily olt
'5
[rent felt it '0 ti
!0 legalise isliat,lo,:•e,
five nie3i
consideration o'o4 ti 1
'ard some g6n boti
which had ye,
he
proved th .01
before d.
Tation ifbecause ,.
e subject to be
felt no tune
ise those inarpo
posed by the
lee
[lon. and Le,,,1
wed that ther 3:
vernmeM din deV,t
Ile adinitte ,;(jer3
require eon.,
beer to hav 5 e 131'...e
done its (ItitY .70
;ession haVe'.g:%lo
mat
t.
ature to that tel-,;io
id occurred
) As rketroio,
up the (iti°sog
to time, in
di pre?„ •
;ring in e 1)1"'
E oar
tto thecons. it
ad given nottei:ectio
ith a Ion" =Pe 4-F:
te. It litid aWal,s
ed no real
gers on clivvionl,4
ht be colleetet!; 1'
they would .111^
ie lobby, often:7-01.f!
Ile& Ile
r tl;e late
venience tto icii•loll,3
's of tha
the division
.unning over e :ea
WhICII indo
they ought
("ear,
) sat •ni
Muntzythat 1,.114,41
le. Nothing coli,
the House,
tltl
e given