The Sun.
London, England, 1845-06-11 00:00:00

SERVICES IN CHINA.
Mr. H. BERKELEY gave notice that, on the Bth of
July next, he should move for a Committee of tt!
whole House, for the, purpose of examining into t w
ry
propriety of presenting a humble address to her MP
.jesty, praying her Majesty to order that the
seice'
of the officers, the seamen, and marines, who served in fns
in the years 1811 and 1842, should be taken into consideration
with the view to their pecuniary recompense.
REFORM BILL.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE gave notice that, on the Bth Jr.ulYR, he
should move for a repeal of the rate-paying clauses of the
form 13111.

NEW E.
Mr. AGLIONBY would wishAN to put a question...ooo.lst
importance to the Hon. the Under-Secretary for the G l es' ..
hetne.
whorl he saw opposite. He wished to know Liana,
dispatches had been received from New
on the
and whether those papers would be laid
table of !he House previous to the introduction of the iluees_tbeiner
on the subject of that colony by his Hon. Friend the 31 ra
for Liskeard ? _usher
Mr HOPE said that papers down to the 19th of Dees.
0..
had been received at the Celonial-office, and he had thattathe
merit directed that they should be laid before the House as
earliest opportunity E.
THE CASE OF THE WOMAN BRISCO 5,...0,
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE wished to know from the Right ""
,l
Baronet opposite if he had received any further inf orrnviataiora.
relative to the case of the unfortunate woman Briscoe, at
called
nester, to which he ( Mr. Duncombe) had once before a*ed
the at tention of the House
Ssir J. GRAHAM was understood to reply
CORN-LA Nouse the
Mr. VILLIERS said, that in rising to submit to the
caution
important question which was involved in the
__resatver he
to which he was about to call the attention of the B !big,
believed he might congratulate himself at least on one."
0 that
.0 'rear
which was, that by a sort of general understanding
in the negative.
House, the propriety of this motion being raw° - sob was
nised, or at least it was acknowledged generally that
of
be
the unshaken conviction among numerous elasaes questions
importance of the objects connected with
the
der to do
of the necessity which existed for some decision, in or
_oat,
away with the unsettled state in which it remained
lore the
that it did become the duty of some Mernbernrar`iiatoento
close of the session, to test the opinion.nsherieed
and, if possible, to elicit the views hw id) 'the sub'
Honourable Members in that House
ject. If he had apprehended rightly the reaseoPensn.
on to seek
Majesty's Ministers had given when they had occanrtord ibis
on the measure which had already been measurebrough"° ile
session, on this question, they had said that this edthst
voiced principles opposed to the policy of the law its° ''tee waist
it wou'd be impossible for them to give a satisfactory go
, odd tbst
motion until they had decided the general question. 1 Wand diet
that was a question recently raised in that linuaeldd he the
when the general principle was considered, then W.°,... on tbd
vrbich he
fitting and proper moment to express their COnvictl_o"
question. He had been further encouraged to brill ?sable Lord
that des
question in consequence of the manner in which the I
t tie Member for London had represented the worth that no aie"
the House, and stated that his conviction was toilet He
ment could be so fitting or so alsiit• i.;-
the discussion of this question as the I, had ta--1.1.
had further reason to be pleased at the pare .ee that I_ln
on this subject, when he had had reason to helievtbeyacio
forward
.. JO
Honourable Members opposite had declared thal3rsee, to
in opinion with the Honourable Member for _sole of t
had said that, whenever the time came when the F'''
thee' aa-tbs
country should say this law was unsatisfactory tad he Orli,
was the time to abolish it altogether, for it wou.need as
(ible to legislate upon it. Now, so firmly CO red benrf
(Mr. Villiers) that the time had 5°W saleressaPOetoes
this law could no longer be deemed satisfactory 'bet it u` 00
this country, that he was prepared to move d upon. be
gether abolished, for it never could be legislate bored
these grounds, then, he would say, ;e bored
Pb
would be excused, if he should h,e_siseig
_sshile-sa
by some Honourable Members as arMrods.,o7„ itlnd
forward an extravagant measure, or of havingss'esge"intste
a peculiarly inconvenient time. He was esstn''''etsrf °lotion
course by the Right Hon. Gentleman the 1, is *Pegs hire'
for the Home Department, who had eeprenord Pebieet te
of the resolutions proposed by the Nobleesis net :a; tbesres
upon a late occasion, when he said he than t"- 1":
those resolutions upon any other grotto Tie thee' as ths.A"
were too many of them proposed at o;he seine esisiv",
principle involved in those resolutions wrs",iferencs as,
advocated by him, and, therefore, no real t."-ses, "lona`
precki;llo3ltrir 31401
between them. The Hon. Member for '''' f the lor
one of the moat malcoiitented Members ° wisest Go'
upon this subject, had said that one of Ibehy the total
cures that could have been introduced d the .00,
vern men t, was that one which
abolition of the duty upon an article of genera'
he meant the abolition of the duty upon the raj apPiteg Ile
cotton, a measure which the Hon. ;Member retire Yessares'oeed
The Noble Lord was an advocate for moderate r_ 90 fro,
had acted from the desire of conciliating all is!ruere'lectis
je, in
his motion so as to make it agreeable to the fftee trigs.
rest, and equally satisfactory to the advocates n ion, be siii
that endeavour to reconcile differences of npitc.ea perfev..4
Villiers) thought that the Noble Lord had i
h an atteolat,rie
right. He was quite justified in making sue- was 101.
that this was the general opinion of the 11°°5° as re'. ber
the spirit and manner in which his motiontssii. afeniss,
HeVilliers) might observe that th treiss sears
for Gateshead (Mr. Hutt),
sions to elevate his head, and feel gratified that 11 tale diet
not ot
supporter of extravagant measures, that he did: n
0°
with the repealers, was now begill3l.liligero
was 0 f its
the measure proposed by him (Mr' V'before theist 0,00
who was apt on parts:wnes 0
...i,
large, and that there was evidence
manner la .blish
being made successtul. Considering the
ht Oasts
ria
measures tending towards the principle he sougnd
onside
ti,
had been dealt with this session in that House, a
their
supPtas
the views which had been advanced in
iiswhich Pm
he congratulated himself on the great improveroe ' He 011 ;
taken place in the treatment of those questions. 0400 do
this an indication of a sound and growing rfronsmo;
favour of just and liberal economical princiPts; bad of fr
manner all measures bearing upon the views - an tired be
maintained in that House had been reasoned, he al p of
.to.
vourably of the early success of the PrineiPs;kjers°to'
motion he was about to submit to their v
re HO' "etbia
There were, be thought, this session three or f°,eration ;
hers who had previously always opposed any °that lac it
law; one of whom said, he regretted
as 01 be
law had ever existed ; another that he
declare that at
was necessary, and a thirsi Noble Lord dea',:n tels'inbell
was not afraid of repeal. His own imp mom ese ere
the leading members of the Government, the I enonres'sfs
of the ex-Government and the re
referred to a Select Committee—would be found;.,,) f!reugh
pealers—if the asaili diffel:. 7bo,
little in opinion.—(Laughter, and cries of " ge% age, t° in
lieved that the report of such a Committee to the 13 yeti yetssture
it might not contain the same Jangualse:ne ;Ouse,
substance, would be much of the the ;seta's,'
as the motions he proposed to
soot nip A
It would declare the law wholly unsuited to act'74 ,00
stances—that its promoters had not any laudablezosimg o_o,
—that it had been very injurious to the f is, l'hos
of the community, and that the sooner ;as oleo; y
halted the better. He believed that wits 150 the
pression in the House, and if there hare betehat it
thing as a mind of the House, such would
well
votes
f ttes
impression made upon it. But it was very we"
was not the mind of the House, but tea
_..5 oat fors
House, which determined legislation, and votes a pee'
slir.l"o-f te, 01
but there would still be votes against the repeal Frotloo, for
Last night he learned that the Society for ! . be sec 0'
Native Industry and Agriculture was still livintlt: web: o?l,st
their publications, and found them est of ' $ sii
tore as ever. He believed the advocatea._ol oteet,..
jecta which that Society had in view
of"psrlia:tod ano"f
a preponderating influence in both Houses
unsafe unsafr .0014
they were not quite satisfied that it would be it ise.-.00,._
wi-e to continue this law. With respect to the i n.,,,,,01is tb°
the objects of his annual motions and the muee'rmeent t faer:
holy, the Aliti- Corn-law League, to prove---rsowis!..,itoti?:
continuance of the present law was unsafe Ora, :"04 MS; iefe
could be no question about the 0 .ge' vete 3ns.
of the law. It was to make land dear, and ' object' islat°;
lation had been consistent with that, the leflosuee
proprietors of the land were almost exclusive.Y.atiog I.ofatiel,i.
ann thus it was accounted for. The preponneithe revoepeenit
of the land commenced in 1688, witb• 0 coni Ole
ael in that year this sort of legislatioeoe tothstq;
It was at that time that the decision w6asas, wheelie Plat
had occasioned this 'great change. In I f 500 t BlO
spectable monarch had asceeded the throne,. 0
terms ostop, slot
Lord the Member for Newark had spokens),°,,e seeeh ss too
respect—within three months after that Nine-lea suco tb
$i
to show the little occasion there was for any F9_0,411;0,0 Pip
which had been set up in lateatrott°ollo)
°boast eofoor,
that
months after that accession, a
and conceded for imposing a dutY sod _of 0 ,
consequence of the war with Frar;ese'eapense'etiono,
purpose of raising the sum for meeting' In' their Po, cnethe
war. Arid since that Committee had gienhee, yen riser_o4,
the measure, the purpose of the motion bad cloaked:ol 170
tently pursued, only at that time, it was quit '"_,l id, a
pretence of imposing a duty on exports. a ''omionestt'sseistybse
Till the end of the last century the law nal object i
time al
same in principle, and had effected th !,,st at this sot,
the value of land and raising the rents. "suer in WO sod
people of this country had not the same powrieten,
atf ;0
they have now, and the land Pr°,Psture ad iOC lost
rained a preponderance in the Lill': mode
ed o'lo
impose what duties they pleased. This hitter e_ tbrl coif
lug the value of land continued till the when when Oa 8, ot
century, that is, till between 1760 and Is , a jot/ me
the tbe
Pti(4netrY Its" 04 t' Isltte
thought of a different plan, and had im " A
coming from foreign parts; for the coa .
_nto
the
,eit.
importing country, and this principle
.h nnuetose $ of t: it
present moment. The object wi!., the 010010 1,0061
of their own property by raising very iodic_ coed' the
land, and raising their rents, and
.a
altero triro,s that 44,
certain's, was. 'I he constitution d
t° it b rel ' aej
the same, and one might despair ohfaany
position of men in this country with regard with hello 4
try, ,he non's
charged. The lower classes in this coot'
__sre, 0040 co hos
the Legislature, were stronger than they rtivewn id 'hoe be
that no wrong would now long be Magree_!,., would ;joie°
_elf
ation Pad ;prig to
without being redressed; and this Sen.fisfinusesoup-ito sclies
redressed, had not the landlords in b "'
A &nit that' the ss° Or
boun. to 3 . _ 7
or 0
country. He therefore was mined a Ito
recent period, that law had been
al-nblie, and -sointeuse 1:
of a very considerable portion of the Pu_i„sit be .I,' by le?ed 0.
>uhlie opinion In i, is beg' ' rtu ad
siderable expression of i sad been Ps_eeo Pe la he
having given that law effect. It n s isad not us.ssooen dos _
fluential parties in this country, wn° "
which it aulOrn boss of tb.
that the law was of that character _stiae
_boss se,
of the community in this countrv--ileodehione4oen b: f, the
ascribed to it. Great delusions had been
nPriTe ettlo7:bowaes:erf
soil, and the labourers upon it. frhisSe__bes for.
deflect
_swear
haracter an were rn! ode-- the
passed away. The Hon. and Gallant 31 °id the 00%0 of noels
successfully described the c
I that theY ,Ss lin', d des
farmers of this country. He saus ion singwar"eYgeowl°4'o
and contracted views, with
wh° were theY Insj el t° o
cattle they were rearing, and menthe markets be dirttit „soot'
chiefly occupied with the vegetvables th eY we very ar, ettel4
sure the affairs of the world bv
submit't toted as thedese!ive*
He had declared he could Tioand limi.srmser t..
person. whose views were so narrow..Lll'lo,ll tnesrbi; to dap in,
whom he had described. If that not very atinb;t
lion of a firmer, it certainly Wi', ten rie tO °I,
" a think ' he 00;0 bl.O.
him, and he eat the had been en - ot r •
e , oes nits
this, country could be produce
Gentlean whip ceicabt
the contrary. The Hon.
. that
(Mr. Villiers) did f t Aein
nri .
deceived to have °P thet
.b of
word—he had been
___d high profit,ntrae_.eetsble.to
was profit—( Hear, hear)a ;use 0s very was 507desip
the land boo 001;0y tbe ,of
employed.
there w°,... ay t
sstatioses
high profits to those who
been
induced is tbe .eaPs7esho;t
was not able (He
eo
dbeiscinogvertoot
to hire that land. He had ~..,sh price ' pers°" tell et
t a uns boot • 1
of Parliament that held ou d tided t anti° Ps too a
rofit, and e
_A„ce the t that gone,'
procuring a greater p khaitt,if
would not yr."- were a the se.
told him that that Bill
..on. s embers
sitsipsy oofrieo „co
of a high profit. Several ts
held their seatawere blaroats.. hied
sitting in the House.
dwehde the fernier thectish big Pte eollgibole
that they had persua •
wished t° dtons attest
the enemies of those who oberves- -, e ea. for
principle of his ( Mr. Villiers)
tto
„II him, on ttieteberesi
the farmer on this subject, and
to thnse w 000. r iILCDOO
who were really his friends, and e
The been _ ,„
- ring eneett rnecCore-le is were his most perseve Lod becont , 06other o 0
Somersetshire had said he " . of the r ~ hit tabedop
' . the agitation to open
siglOg .h.
on the subject since- b inning king
had commenced. He was ,g
now 100 old
sax v..
er was fie Wow
(Laughter.) The farm ted. A4O
protec
was told he was being