The Sun.
London, England, 1816-02-28 00:00:00

should never cease to resist the attempt to impoor
on the country an artued•csta'llisloneitt, two- tlit.ts
larger than any erer yet atkpted: Oar only safety
was in the protection of 'the plinciples of our
Constitution, and the heart with which the people
ircitold com4ine for its defence.. 11.,weetteloptfil
,to Ape those States th.,t could4nit on.fout:at ones
a m plop mod it..10:111 p 1 mn,: we 0'001,1.001y nt•littt
ourselve7entemptiblett:id!ridiculons.
it ORICH denied having intended 4n 'say that'
che.necessity of an. enlarged ?race -.E.Stablish went
',arose from the increase of OurpopulAtion.'
iLsoh: paeticip4ted in all the setitimet ti
of Constitutional jealousy which the:lion Gentle.
_man opposite - had expressed i;llitt the - questiori
/tow-far teat' jealousy-was founded I Tnat
Hon: Member at onetime seemed to wish, fur' no
peace establishment at all. tic -had afterwards
acknowledged its propriety with regard to Irelandi
and had thus reduced the questiou to one of
free, It waa.therefore inconsistentin him to sty
that he would hear no man on the subject. But this
inconsioeuey might Justify e belief th•tt the.Gen-
tlemen....opposite felt it their interest to avoid ata
examination into. details, in which,: if they enter-
ed, they. *eye conscious -they would be rowed
horse:llod foot. :The lion. .Alember, •however,,
who had said that he would hear no one, and that
to propose any 'explanation was to ofier. an insult
to. his understanding—(hear, hear!)..-:not had, no
objection to refer to former establisheneuts, •fur`
Copies of uhich his friends hod. even voted,'lte
order to make comparisons.. He was. particular*.
lv fond, as %veil as his side of the 1-1..ti3e,•0f
the establishment of 1791, and of -repea,ri.;g the
assertion, that • the present • was a perm.thoutS,
Peace Establishment. But. it must be, recal.• •
leered, that the pstablishment of 1791 had
been. proposed after seven 'yens. of peace.--
Ile denied the permanence of ' that now brought •
foilvard. The 30,000 men in France, and
20,000 in the Bastindies, only formed a Tart
of it for it lime.' Deducting these, he should con-
sider the propriety of the 99t000 which remained.
The Honourable ,Gentletnan bad said, that the'
25,000 men for Great Britain. were within 5000:
of 2the'reace Establishment of 1791. But that
conSisto'.4 48,000 men, ant! riet (430,000, out oit
which 'there were 17,000 for Great Britain, and,
15,000-for Ireland._ ' lie had.'his-o most conve.
niently'forgotten the statement of his Noble!
Friend, which shelved that' the force at home
must depend.. upon that kept up 'in the
•nies. The reliefs for these amounted to 6000'
men, _which were, therefore, to be deducted
out of the 25,000 men for Great Britain. Titts
idea of our' naval depots requiring an increase aR
the number of men had been treated with con.'
.tempt ; but who could consider as an object tit
inditference, the guarding of our establishments'
and -stations) Some of these, to a considerable
amountivi eve new; and unlesi the Gentlemen op..'
polite were prepared to prove that their number
Was too great, any objection to' supplying them
.with efficient ,protection was unfounded.. He theta'
defended an Hon. Friend of his, who had bete.,
attacked, on the groned that he had attributed
• the necessity for a large Peace Establishment•ter
an increase of population. He declared that:
'he' bad been misunderstood, and illustrated his
argument by the example of Upper Canada, which'
required greater protection, nut in consequence
of the increase of its population, but beeamie the
.opening of toads, slid otherhical cif Cumstanoes .
occasioned. by that. augmentation, offered
for, attack. Upon the whole, the
question was one ot more or lei,, and the. House
coldd never Come to adecision on the subject, tut.
less it went into sit inquiry. No person was 'more
satisfied than lie was, that the real. securitOlf the
Country ‘rls its Constitution. 'Nay, he was .neat!,' -
to admit that it was that free Constituttoo attic
vgil us. anti Europe—nothing else.-o.olear; ; . •
„hear,j)... Iret, it be hewn him that the proposed - •
ext.ahlihtnent was Minecessary, mid tie would vote
against.. it. Rut •he teltaved that the people' of t
Litgltind, who tiltrayi dceided right w hen they
knew the facts (Hear, hear would on this iden. •
stihjert .entertain,.the sameupinioo as his
Miticsly's Miiiktera,'lnstead 'of regarding them us
01050 enCittiel to their country Which 'certain Gen.
..11tnne.n wished to make client appear.
Mr. FlifiliMANTLa objected to the principle on
Nrhich- the estitbiishmeitt was runeled, anti tint to
`the details,, , which he had little doubt Govern..
ment were, prepared to j4tify, ate their Own
of
the
was
-9nestiors,
was 'simp
ly this—that it illegal end'contrai y
tit at,e-Justitutioni Of the • country 'to Maintain
Military force witlitiat tht consent of Parliitatent;:v
'which reduced the,Whole to a .quistiort•ol; degree. •
'fls soon as. the cot ietit.Of Parliament Was:obtained.
to the support, ot: arty standing fOree. As to this
~rettntion. of our new Colonies., that ,Ought to ha ,
decided according to dick utilise, -and not irity ti
- reference, to the prelent,questicut. We were .113 A
tificd in Liticreasing the troops in the West 1 silica
iu consequence sit the exiiitence of ,a great *ad:
Empirc, :“,1 tai CaNada, on account of the sit,t,t.•

tint) of the Uniteil -Suites. ►le ileprecatot any
coVesSion of weakness on our part to the Poweis
of Europe, by the re►tuction of the troops We tt*era►
to' natintisiO in Franci.

Sir lloaettr liettoti not only objected to the
principle of .the measure, but thought that it
cinihl.itpi he supported. He
.inveighed agAin%t
the EmP:ror.Alcxender, and the rest 'of our-
Allies.' •

-il4ol•il'eltt. contended, that the civil poicer Of
Irelatiti is totally inadequate to.the preservatioti'Of •
the pemlii, and that nothing less than '43,000 troops
wes.stiffieicnt to preset ve tranquillity. He beggra.
Getittlemen to recollect, that Ireland is not"Eng.'
land, as it Wee last, night.said that :England sv t 1
nut Germany. It two countries ware very ,thi«
ferently situated; Inland had not the blotting of it.
residentnUittryas England' bad, to benefit then
by thelry,eemple their influence, and their wealth.
In Ireland we bud an ahundant population .
out the means of employing them, or
these habits by which society is byncetted,.
meitAura must not he assumed to be bad, because:
it ntasinat itliplicabte to England. 'rho etuptoy.
Auilitary force in Ireland was for the,

okrsvpueposee of general protection, which watt
ilimumpl:purpole of a regular force , the ussia.«
sauce it the prekervation of the peace; and itto
kreveutton of illicit `diotillatioui 4.`k, 25,0 p,