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future consideration.
The amendment was then put and carried without a division,
and leave was given to introduce the Bill wanout the clause.
Sir G. CLERK said that, in the absence of a Noble Friend'
he had to move the notice which stood on the paper in 1,,'
name, namely—" That every Committee on a railway nu!,
shall, with their report on the Bill, state whether the plwaY
rovi-
sions of the Companies Clauses Consolidation Bill, the Rei
Clauses Consolidation Bill, and the Lands Clauses Consolidation
Bill, have been complied with ; and, if they shall not have
been complied with, state in what reirects they not been
complied with, and the reasons for such non-comp Bill That
complied
the Committee on every Bill, other than a Railway ilk °
which the provisions of the Companies Clauses Consolida9?n
Bill, or the Lands Clauses Consolidation Bill, are
shall report to the House any non-compliance with such previl.
sions, and shall state their reasons for permitting such noeb-c"
the
pliance." The clauses in those Bills had been Passed
House after mature consideration, and he should Pre's
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applicabl?:

adoption of the stnding order. a hope
Sir G. GREYa objected to the motion, and expressed
that the standing order would not be pressed. ble
dif-
Mr. HAWES thought that there would be considers
ficulty arising from the adoption of these clauses. as MI
Mr.:GREENE supported the adoption of the clause,
would have a tendency to prevent lgation.
Mr. PARKER conceived that, as matters stood
ge he
there would be no end of the labours of the Cowin
would instance those of the London and York CeoPanY'bould
Sir G. CLERK agreed that it would be useful if cares!,_coi
be taken in future that all Railway Bills should state di
all the deviations proposed. atitPeree:,

The motion was then withdrawn.
WELSH RAILWAYS. tinlybesa
Mr. SPOONER brought up the report of the ".to in-
and other Welsh railwas from the Committees appointee

vestigate the proofs of the preamble.
VAUXHALL WATERWORKS. vaohsll
Mr. GREENE brought up the report on theco.
Waterworks Bill, which bad been referred back to the into'
mittee of Standing Orders. He stated that the omission, :d that
Bill was merely one of accident ; and he therefore, lif
the Bill should be placed preciy in the same on as in,
the standing orders had beens complied with in the firs
stance.

DIRECT NORTHERN RAILWAY. n the
ee.
l woo
Mr. EDWARD ELLICE brought up the report o
Direct Northern Railway from the Select Conunitt
Sir THOMAS ESMONDE moved that the evidellessioor
before the Committee on the Wexford Harbour BilStio.bill
1843) be referred to the Committee on the Ca'
(Wexford) Docks Bill —Agreed to. . favour
of
An How. MEMBER presented eight petitions la
the Lincoln and Cambridge Railway Bill. d tlo
Sir C. LEMON presented two petitions in favour
Cornwall Railway Bill. -
RECAL OF LORD ELLENBOROUGIL, too,
Mr. ELLICE said he had been requested by tue,b inst.,
Member for Montrose to postpone his motion to the toot of
It was for copies of the correspondence between the, of (,00'
Directors of the East India Company and the Beara
Tenor
trol, respecting the recal of Lord Ellenborough, the Gecort of
General of India ; and a copy of the minute of the
Directors recalling him.
GOVERNMENT OF NEW ZEALAND' aitioa
Mr. CHARLES BULLER said, in answer to a Lestioa
from Mr. Hope, that as he understood that the 'onitler
involved in the motion of which he had given notice Ito bts
the cons,deration of the Government, he would wit'
motion.

. ecl rid,
Mr. FOX M A ULE SCOTCH
wished to knowBANKING when the see°,
ing of the Scotch and Irish Banks Bill would be taken
said. he
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUEII
should give an answer on the morrow.e scotch
Mr. FOX MAULE said the second reading oft
thought
Poor-law Bill was fixed for the first Wednesday• ,f,s hit.
it would be better to postpone its consideration till alt"
Sunday. ut te tbe
The LORD-ADVOCATE was understood to as6e
postponement. CH AIRS IS
ADMISSION TO THE UNIVERSITY 'col
SCOTLAND. • trodeen•
Mr. RUTHERFORD, in rising ' - flier uee
of a Bill to reguAte the admission to the lay or Seto- nut t.'
of the Universities of Scotland said, that in order
~,raed this
for
the to
House into possession of his intentions in bringing
measure, he should shortly call their attention t°,hoglere
.0 me,e the 10 bora
Acts passed in 1709 and 1770 upon this subject. 13ffillitifr
the
it was enacted that no tarty should be capable 0 the '
saes-
office in the Universities without having first taken e,enfdie t-e' ere
of allegiance and acknowledging and subscribing - sertea'
sion of Faith," and, moreover, that they should sign ,ir, . No;
submitting Themselves to the discipline of the
that Act had never been din all the tiniver.sl ities I
verf he
Vnl
of
to t
never universally enforced in any. In some of the
was enforced only in respect to the professors, and :hid) WI
,
office bearers. In the University of Edinburgh,
~
so tha,
perhaps not the oldest, although certainly the largo' last t!!
there,' a ball
which had produced the most distinguished men.
long been in abeyance, and it had never been enfe in a 13i11
against any lay professor. He now proposed to brilot bens:
for the purpose of declaring that hereafter it 'holt eoriseoi:
cessary for any lay or secular professor to sign t untolleb b
Preshyte Jo, se.ut
or the formula. In that proposition be would leavetv,se whic_,
the theological chairs, and apply the Act onlY to 1100"gst with,,
were devoted to literature and science. Ile t eseught ??
whilst it was necessary that those . ouths who were in dteiell
for the Established Church should be instructed 'wise lief.
according to the rules of that Church, by teacher‘ae
0110 rea
bound to those rules, it was not necessary that hers
ohs hs
strictions should be applied to those other teac
any circlet;
nothing to do with divinity. He should, it Sill ;pee so
stances, have thought it his duty to bring in t-new, thee- ES.'
felt it the more imperative to do In now,
sese )
many of his countrymen had secede
sievee.--lear.
under'
tablished Church, and held it in -- 'e leanly
The Hon. Member, whom we did not always "
1,,a v ofess°ll.:f
stand, referred to some recent declaration of t"- ^r e esc``..
the University of Edinburgh, 'signed by all, with on owe
tion, to the effect that the restrictions ought to be den fool's
with. In the University of Aberdeen arnajority of Pre,,esel
in all the colleges except (we believe) Mareschal Coll dr
come to the same decision. In Glasgow a majority lis per'
Glared themselves in the same way. He asked them for.tbe
A il
mission
to introduce this Bill, leaving, as he had eai",• alei/9
ecclesiastical professorships as they were. He asked this a a
se
in the
name of a very large portion of his countryineniie ela.
large
portion of the teachers in the universities. ite tO
treated the attention of the Right Hon. Baronet 0pP7.00•
this
matter, which was at this moment of critical ipPessioe 01
He very well recollected that, in the course of the disc- t the
last year, the Right Honourable Barcnet 00
head of the Government, and the other Right :00Hoge of 11
Gentleman beside him (Sir George Clerk), feesP resse'
tied
lq
occur • ience which had then recently taken place, a
tdtbere -iti
their confidence that a re-action was at band. e'n- woe-,
been no re-action, and he stood there to say that thortetitest:
separated from the Established Church were more (1,,710 PI
than ever to establish themselves.—( Hear, hear.) They
00
shown a di terminatin which no one ;he knelt., ey I
would expect to subdue.—(Cheers.) They had ereussestsl
churches—( Hear, hear)—and he would state one oho beloug s
of singular importance. It was known that those w
eseidthitn
to the Episcopal party in Scotland were amongst tile 70 g up:
us of getti
land-owners, and they had long been d •
desirous . ars chef.
Episcopal college. But in the course of several than , cox
more than !rho,
been able to collect for that purpose no
Let the House contrast that with what had been d0.n.e....n Hest,
who had separated from the Established cburcntiot botl/
hear.) It was pro d f h .
pose he some o t e principals kers' thing
to found a college. But y thought it would be a nVuielieg
to draw for that purpose - a - I fund for llota
upon the genera lergY' .
churches and manses, and for the payment of the c
~.ke 1,
0,
to subse.l7ol ire .
asked, were there not h h
en amongst t em
&age" e Ole
each? and in less than three weeks 20,0001. was?--;, they -,oe
twenty individuals, and if they had require","' They rthf:
have obtained any further sum.—( Hear, hear./ ii ge feresee.
not going to establish a university, but only a co es the r ,
education of those intended for the Church. nut nide, 117
sent restrictions were to be kept up in the unteefeluele is.;
would cause the whole education of Scotland to "eueive° the
tarian. —( Hear, hear.) The schools and the, gear.) e 0
would be drained of all the Dissenting youth.--k ell, an- i-
entreated the Right Hon. Baronet to consider. Bell, the 'To
take counsel, that if he did not accept this 13iie'ld ,urite
versities would be injured and the new college ‘c,here ?
on their ruins.•—( Hear.) What objection could there ti
give legal effect to what had long been the unieereaseegee -ed
How was the law actually enforced? In sever not
sige a
rector, and in most a number of the professors ha"
~ ~ilters snit
the tests. - Of all these 13 were Presbyterian Piss's'," coars the
27 belonged to the Episcopalian ion. k" of •
persuas respect this
would not be supposed that he did not speak with h *a
00
persons who belonged to the Established Chesr.ct no deny
country—(Hear, hear)—but he would say t"-• id t
wee, 40
who knew the history of Scotland first age As
that these restrictions were directed from the 130,
episcopacy.—( Hear, hear.) Yet the Right W:3; the c 24
opposite had been installed as rectors without signin4 VITO`
1 ) be
fession or the formula.—(Hear, hear, and a laUgi..,tioo if
therefore, he asked the House to rescind those resP",
ha t yidisit
did not ask them to do any thing new, but to make t-- bad, bad
which was already the practice. The law was still of 1, bit. ,
was lamentable to have a country under the svarkig of /lla '
law. As au instance, he would point out the cesassee toriefere
Brewster, a name not requiring the addition of ",imeo ',ter
had distinguished the College of St. Andrews tees° ,".• fereelate
than the College could have distinguished liiind 11".0 the to
having joined the party who had left the Church tje tripes,
schism, the other professors having found this stuAtiedprole
enforce the law against him. They were ","g tu e-sites
miserably disappointed, for the law was found wan ope,_ito,
very plain machinery. The Right Hon. GentlenWepre Prot
the Secretary for the Home Department, would Wee Co
for saying thatmembers of the reretbeie °„rreot
could not rely very much upon the generositY o`, 0010"-reb,
nents. There was a man who held a high and he CO..' ost
situation in that grand movement which separates' t 9 the whe
and of all men concerned in that great event he wieusge--;ce
mbderate in counsel, and the most temperate in 1a135, off To,.
never uttered a word, or did a deed, that would! in i,``!ls
to any individual. He held the theological eutu-ards e'-'ecs"
burgh, and also the secretaryship of the private es it neeeh
he might have kept ; that gentleman did not thin" t svhdlee
nary to tender his resignation of that appointing ein 'IA
however was taken from him. He would call ti, 'the flig d
tive and harsh use of authority, and he would tell eentleer•e9,
Hon. Gentleman opposite, that that one act 'of ha;10 the Pi,
conciliation more impassible than any act recorde
riesfter 11,
tor) of such transactions. These laws may hewhnot thst to
forced in the same way as they do exist. He kn of tb
eteoto.
should enter into a discussion then about the propriet2i ht 0 .
in such cases ; he did not know whether the ''' to the:lee,
Baronet wished to impose them with reference t, but e
cuter chairs. In his view, it would be consister ite iejur,i
struetive to their character. They would do in r; Soren.
to these establishments, if they were now to cc° belated,
and limit the choice of the teachers, Wh,.e.rgeS the
to the Free Church, and were instructing their charge' trYit";
implicit confidence imposed in them. If they sneese'snowileugt-'
question he would ask what connexion had iMmelt-nowlel- I:
great proficiency, arid the power to impart that bear, e
others, to do with their religious opinions ?--(Hear't of a isr.
England the matter was different, Where all form and demean'
family, as it were, in which religious discipline eany be aavietie
instruction go hand-in-hand with science. It qe very LI,
tageous in the Universities in England ; it TnaY ith the "'". 0,
that professors should be persons in connexion
1;
Vriiversiti.eo_
blishment ; but how different was it in the Scotch..
__ that „._...
where there was nothing like that domestic habt! O'
seieette:
mestie discipline, where the pupils went to hare;,tnete the hAlet
lectures and then returned home again. with Ace the -.-9,
tory of the country the statute was inconsistent disseet--Lt
of Union. which first introduced the principles 01
alas song'
Act which was regarded last session, a hen a Pill
_,,,,,inion int
in called Lard Aberdeen's Act. It was against th? "nti". That
in
law of Lords Cottenharn, .Campbell, and 13rou
uld
pardisregelltles
appeal was disregarded, and he hoped they we large 1
equally now. Was it no grievance that a very to (ton
and the majority of the country were cluded DY
l'., in thet
abtairtin academical huneurs as teachers or profedgrnity, 01.:
Colleges? Was it no grievance, was it no in gstieuld cei
those who had devoted their whole life to study, diogrfeseir
prevented from teaching anything because they was a EIF"
with certain tenets in religious matters? Nene the
was dissent fro oilier-
opportunity to interfere— or never wog 110
tablished Church so strong as now—or We these w
- of t .le
wise be involving in exclusion more than half the peor
were within that Church, and the great majority 001 i that 11.
of Scotland. He would now ask for the rePeal Ong I .
and for leave to bring in a Bill for the purpose of Ore

He would do so in the name of the people of that country,
in the oarrie of the literature and seinice of that country which
was by this law of exclusion treated with contumely. He
came armed with the approbation and sanction of all the uni-
versities of Scotland. He found the majority of the Y
pro-
fessors of that country against that law, and he trusted that
they would be sufficiently enlightened to see that by continu-
ing that law, it would be at the expense of destroying. the ad-
vantage of common education in Scotland, and inflicting
wounds upon every one of the universities, and upon the ma-
jority of the people.
Mr. DRUMMOISD said that it was snore than twenty
pass since the report on this question was drawn up.
There were many changes since, but at the time that the re-
ports were prepared there was no complaint from any quarter
then
complained this Act of Parliament ; no grievances were _
complained of; and he did not recollect that any Member of
the Commission, or any other person, wished for a discussion
whether this Bill should be repealed or not. There were some
observations, he recollected, to the effect that the law was
enforced in some colleges end not in others; and the Commis-
sioners asked why they did not enforce it in all. It was taken
by some to be a question of Liberal policy. On that ground
he wished to seethe question decided.--( Hear.) He agreed
Kith the Hon. Gentleman, that the analogies of English col-
fges had nothing at all to do with the question.—(Hear,
t"ieestir.)f The Scotch colleges were not intended for the et uca-
ecy religion whatever, except the theological. depart;
He did not think that there was any great grievance ,
but if there was wh keep up the law that was of no use?—
V(Hear, hear ) Now that it had become a matter of com-
aint, the Government ought to take a different view of it.
For
his 'mu part, he wished that they should set this statute
-e• He hoped that no strong opinion would now be given,
lit that the question should be discussed at some future
Period.
?Ir. ACKLAND said, that he could not hear what his Hon
yeied rlenvdhad said without saying that this was a question which
veryvery serious features. He should be very glad if the
„evernment were to allow the Bill to be read a first time, in
"t that they should have time to consider the matter. He
could not find words to express the intensity of his difference
with the Hon. Gentleman opposite, who seemed to think that
tthoere was the possibility of any man supposing that there was
importance or value. he attached to the religious
The /Ts of those connected with the professional chair.
Hon
Member certainly appeared to apprehend the Eng-
did ei_uiversity system much more clearly than he
te;LLetuet of the north, but still he would say, that if it wain-th—ce lo be set up as an argument in favour of this Bill that
theechairs of literature and science could be filled up without
tiePplication of the tests, then he would recommend. the.
e:11° Pause before it applied the principles of the univerra-
woeie 'gig country to those of Scotland. He, as a Protestant,
scie-17, hesitate to do anything by which to bind the con-
wourde,s, of others, or place shackles upon them which he
y i
po be
sorry to see placed upon his own.—( Hear, 'ear. )
„-;,_tue ecclesiastical affairs of Scotland, he could not look
Measure without reflecting that much of the life-blood
'lth Church of that country had gone forth from it, and,
rfore, he hoped that the Bill would not be rejected.
had". J. GRAHAM said he cordially concurred in much that
44_, fallen from the Hon. Member who had just sat down;
an° he could not but admire the ability, as well as the forbear-
t:,e, which characterised his obeervations.—( Hear, hear. )
Aft` he should also say that it was the imperative duty of her
tie eilltY's Government to regard this question purely and. en-
te tY,P a Scotch question • and there were great and impor-
sbapL_l"'",_ti •tions necessary' to be made which should not be
thetirjendc: There ewere the peculiarities of the Scotch eccle-
e."" laws and also the peculiarities of the law relating to
disrsseotch universities ; these were considerations of great
tsnee in dealing with this. question, and therefore
480 not admit of being overlooked. There was
lost another important point which should not be
rem sight of, though for some time it had
Souse dormant. LeC him call the recollection of the
ts._ase.to the position of the Legislature in reference to the
ZoeFtitryis.hedt Church in in S. coiland and the Universities of that
of Scotland' with England—he be-
this ed in the year 16e9uOnlotnhe monarch then on the throne of
teetioeslm wisely and prudently enforced the laws for the pro-
Mein us 9f the Established Church in Scotland. That law re-
day euf ln force until the Act of Union passed, and on the very
tstail that enactment passing, an Act of security for the
th 'shed Church in Scotland was passed, which embraced
neee Provisions of the Act of 1690, and which rendered
vera4l7 the application of the test to professors in the Uni-
Wee tc)::,_ That Act contained a very remarkable expression,which
liahp tee effect that no measure should be passed by the Eng-
Nut
.urharnent which would have the effect of derogating
that the Established Church in Scotland in such a way as
The douse by the measure they were now discussing.
sent ,d should also remember that the majority of the pre-
the
ti visers of the Crown were Episcopalians ; and even at
tien two
of the Union the Scotch people were satisfied to at-
the wo national objects, which were well known, and for
thernpreservation of which their public spirit and virtue did
her Aiga!eat credit. But such a measure as this devolved upon
would Jest Y's Government a very heavy responsibility, yet he
onside= that no period had arrived better suited for the
ever , ration of it than the present.—( Hear, hear.) How-
ie he should mention one matter of importance
te reference to Scotland, namely, that there was at
tbrt
that moment in contemplation the establishment.
(*es! leuntry of an University of decided Dissenting prim-
If th 2 in fact, the money had already been provided for it.
there' course of study in it was to be confined to theolo,
but ii!lald be no danger of any unpleasant feeling arising;
seieoti",e_gious tests were to be applied to the literary and
uc chairs, then the dissatisfaction would become
positigettaied general.—(Hear, hear.) He was glad to be in a
suede mot° state that Scotland had within tile lastd centuryterar
prover,. st extraordinary advances in commercial asnsortinucy'
ladehtednY ; and he knew of no cause to which. it
neat_on.
h
( Hear hear)fat as the total absence of sectarian ed i
t)f That country had had one
concordundiwveidreedtshyestiT
Sen. 241 education, and harmony and
affeohT he had before stated, this was a measure so materially
l of Scotland that
the g the feelings and interests of the
it, ee.neriuttent would be bound to weigh well and consider
ttiat it would not be prudent to give a distinct pledge
,1 iete. He ,sin e ly felt the difficulties of the measure, one
steeseeirtla was the edirffieCUlty of drawing a line of demarcation be-
reelbe i„ 0 theological teachers and the general teachers ; and
religious acerbity would be very dangerous. However,
co not ont refuse leave to bring in the Bill ; but he would ro-
of it."erld the Hon. Member not to press the second reading
ees,` Omit the feelings of the people of Scotland had been as-
lblained in regard to it ; and while he did not object to the
Bill being brought it, he would wish to be understood Pledging the Government to it in any way. as not
Mr. FOX MAULE was glad to perceive that the Govern-
ment did not object to the Bill being brought in, and he could
assure the Right Honourable Baronet and the House, that it
was a- measure which would have the effect of healing
tiny wounds now existing in Scotland.—
hear. 6 trusted that a measure would be devised which would rende) r
;ee present universities fully adequate to the requirements of
country. He could not sit down without expressing the
gratification which he felt at the proceedings of that evening,
,7_,h
_looked forward to seeing, before the end of the session,
insefarctory settlement of this question.
641_1t a few words from Mr. RUTHERFORD, leave was
•• 'a to bring in the Bill.
„ INCOMES OP BISHOPS.
for R. YORKE, in the absence of Mr. Elphinstone, moved
address for the gross and net incomes of each archbiahop-
hopric in England and Wales, in each year from
the
Ptid to of January, 1537), including all sums received from or
rived
,=the Ecclesiastical Commissioners, and all monies re-
o m ell other era rents, fines, renewals of leases, building leases, and
sources.—Agreed to.
mike,_Pr. to, PUBLIC ACCOUNTS.
sit G said that as there was at present a Corn.
rsstpon, irg on the subject of Colonial accounts, he would
i-'4°Mitte e following motion until after the report of that
11* IQ. Was before the House. His motion was—
eeteueteLoe in ,what opinion of this House a uniform system of ac-
,L;tl,,,Y, should be adopted in all the departments of Govern-
Th:.°Oers "of double entry, as recommended by the
fCorn2-
ee ss'• vublic Accounts, being the basis thereo . .
he'Lt efki e Protection of the public revenue, and the exercise
all said vsii',4t Parliamentary control, the gross revenues should
titrl'eehalsritleesatthe°rellftreduzieduction into her Majesty's Exchequer, and
be authorised by a Parliamentary vote. 3.
ghee°t of re„Pl,rtitent of expenditure be allowed to be a depart-
t3 "eq't other than by credits on her Majesty's Excite-
P.°SURE
ie LilebEarl rOF COMMONS AND WASTE LANDS.
hes LINCOLN then rose to move for leave to bring
intin p. facilitate the inclosure of commons and waste
se' the d °gland and Wales. He would not enter
Hettseetails
of this question, considering the state
teraljeald cos (there were about twenty Members present).
stool loos wh.ment himself by merely stating generally the a_l-
- i were proposed to be effected by the Bill. It
$t that aub9' toe recollection of the House that a Bill relating
hostir ect had been before the House last session. Dif-
' vieeer •
Aftals,ed the unposed themselves in the way of this men-
the tievin , Matter was referred to a Committee up stairs.
atttiCoo4 neard witnesses, and duly considered the subject,
fo 11,,P0n th ee made several recommendations to the House;
hatTued, /Ise recommendations the present measure had been
hiettelieed, econsidered that the principles of the measured
tp i 4144
Cocaadopted by the House. An objection. had
W 0 °Net. Measure of this sort, on the ground that it was
fontilhi tiotrh4oef
ache rights of the poor, over which Parliament
isia-l!ti 0h; e. Sufficient check. Now, that was not a well-
si oeisi 4ect'on to take even against the measure of
kple e Frien
%et reason d last year (Lord Worsley), and for this
foe ePr 01,,,,°°. that poor persons who had common right
4.'1r:14 14-I,'ed when an application was made to. Parliament
lia:",,eenstmsure bill—were precluded from appearing to oppose
IP,ropo,,Zience of the expense attendinrsuch a proceeding.
tvleee, ba introduce an additional security to that which
It be Proposed
by his Noble Friend. The first alteration
the rmbee`er°Pbsed was that of the constitution of a commission.
wh`itlse Pro Posed to throw the duty of such a commission on
kr;ch. thetuaMissioners, but it had been found that the duties
a t°uld have to perform would be of an onerous. de-
di 'Nita; 'se proposed to take power, therefore, to appoint a
vie_ on,
;10 theis...,7lY one of whom was to be paid. He proposed to
to 15 first lea to which this Bill would apply into three classes.
terfith°ll, et,he proposed to give the commissioners power
wi11:441,u: fie "'closure of them, without the intervention of
cer4 YV. e meant that class of land included in the 7th of
of I,ll4l3sioner ver mixed commonable land he proposed that the
eijetarlia,tee: should have no power without the intervention
theec He proposed that the commission should make
rete.__ . aPd upon these inquiries found a report annually to
114hee of S tate, and to be by him laid before Parliament.
statiPaentr4foPe r sve,,d.that an annual Bill should be presented to
°l'll:4'g orders
one hprovision would have to be made in the
v'ithi, and the third House. He had mentioned two c asses
tpet, certa• utird class affected by this Bill would be those
t, uon in radius of all towns above a certain amount of
eon iu His first intention had been to except these lands,
ProposelturY, he found that it would be unwise to do so.
ski`, 114 wit,Tui therefore, that the commissioners should be
;kii`e the eux7l a given radius, the extent of the radius varying
Iteter,ireuttistaet't et. Population' , to make a special report, stating
gettewlences connected with the lands, and the distances 4el• trot* tks• He proposed to exclnde village greens alto-
Iscets to ue °Peration of the Act ; but he proposed to take
iFababge ofetnhaeble the commissioners to take measures for the
eett 'tante prided themselves upon them, yet they were little
titter for leWaanTs, in consequence of the non-existence of
the the using proper drainage. He proposed also
ilthedsitePoetwer eeemtnis......sio‘n.ers should, in all cases have
tie tin S, and, in making allotments to the poor' in-
Lertrer, of the
noenng this, he had taken a portion of
Mtn' did Du. Order to protect the rights of property,
cPo h_te
which at these allotments should be held upon an
were These rent ho proposed to be fixed as a rent
the principal alterations which he pro-
ligeotts / and he believed that they would be found both
tet. pro,* to the rich as being the means of improving
.e1e‘,554 er,ro7o' and to the poor as affording the means of in-
rje for tae definition
Ile would not then enter ito the
eUtie e
144. Ulm a of ownership, but he thoughts it right
ketke material alteration was made as to the power
4'o IththeNtitikalel_otments. He proposed that a valuer should
17..askT_Ofhtst`ment, and not the assistant commissioner as in
-41 f INN. par. After apologising to the House for not
/4
_McNees to make a more perfect statement, the Noble
1,44144
tofor leave to bring in a Bill.
tetlte Pesti a to
from Mr. W. WILLIAMS.
szeeef INCOLN said it was not his intention to
plit,ton of lands held under corporation bodies.
111; hertietß said, as we understood, that his Noble
for Lincolnshire, who had done so much

to promote the objects which the present Bill had in view, was 1
obliged unavoidably t, be absent-.
AGLIONIiY said, he felt great gratifteation that nor
Majesty's Government had taken this subject into their hands,
while at the same time he thought the greatest praise was due
to the Noble Lord the Member for Lincolnshire (Lord
Worsley) for the exertions he used in promoting it.—(Hear.)
He thought the Bill would tend to make them independent of
foreign corn.
Leave wag then given to bring in the Bill.
DRAINAGE.

The Earl of LINCOLN then moved for leave to bring in a
Bill to facilitate the system of drainage throughout England
and Wales. With regard to the Bill which he had just ob-
tained leave tob ring in, he admitted that, so far as he was con-
cerned, the great merit of the Bill was owing to the exertions
of the Noble Lord the Member for Lincolnshire. He re-
gretted that, in consequence of the information he had upon
the subject of drainage not being so ample as he should de-
sire, the present measure would not be so extensive as he
could wish. It would, however, he believed, be of great ad-
vantage, though falling consi:lerably short of the objects in-
tended by his Hon. Friend the Member for Berkshire.
The measure would enable persons to carry drains through
the lands of others, on payment of proper compensation,
and would facilitate the con.truction of works and machinery
for the purpose of draining. Such were the principal fea-
tures of the Bill, and he believed good would result from it.
Leave was then given to bring in the Bill.
MERCHANT SEAMEN'S FUNDS.
Sir G. CLERK moved for leave to bring in a Bill
to amend the Merchant Seamen Funds Act. At present a
shilling a month was stopped from the wages of
merchant seamen, which was under the management
of the corporation of the City of London. The fund
was applied to the relief of old seamen and their widows, and
he proposed that those funds should be invested in the same
manner as the funds in the savings' banks. As it was a
charitable institution, he did not think his Right Hon. Friend
the Chancellor of the Exchequer would object to such an ar-
rangement. The only difference between the present Bill and
the Bill of last year was, that there would be no interference
by any officer of the Government with the corporation which
had the management of the funds. He did not propose to pro-
ceed with the second reading for three or four weeks, in order
that those persons at the outports who were interested in the
measure might have time to make such representations as they
thought fit..—Leave was then given to bring in the Bill.
The Exehequer Bills (9,379,6001.) Bill was read a second
time.
Mr. HAwEs and Sir GEORGE Ctritx, and one or two other
Members, presented petitions against the grant to Maynooth ;
after which the House adjourned, at Nine o'clock.