The Sun.
London, England, 1816-09-06 00:00:00

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the Motives of ; aeol twit they wonlii tic marl
naxino I 0 appreiketiti otrunders tor %Olin)) !Awl
c to have t reward, thin thnii in iespein o
whom they were to have Olith!.

Ot contse, then, it might linve this eticct—thm
un offender might he permitt-ed to lint-sire his cri-
'mina) canter, from the coo:misslon of N flinA
crone, through all the stages, till he committed
a great one, lac not being worth conviction in the
first inrauce, though he might he worth courie-
thin in the lust
}--No, 1 do not think that; I do

not think there are any of the ()Meets so venal•ag
to Overlook art of if he was within their
reach, and not apprehend him because they knew
that there was no reward given by-Aet Of Parlia-
ment for tile conviction I meant it to go no fur-
ther than this—that I think the reward would
produce in some instances a greater stimulus,. bin
1, do- not think they would neglect to apprehend
an offender because there was no reward:

Do you not see that, supposing n police officer,
Who, like any other persiin, might be worse or
better than his neighbour, was worse, he would

have hi; indttc,etnent, rminely, that be would make
money by the convictit;n of one man, whet) be
would not malie.any.thing by the eimviction of
the other ?—Undoubtedly, if you once admit the
principle Orgaiit upon
Mind.

[Rt.. Sahitigt. KIiZNE, Third. Clerk at Bow-street,
• .eromined.]
Whitt tt toe" attendance you are expected to give in the
office ?—The magistrates take two days in the week ler their
attendance, atcarding to their agreentent : it has bees some-
times. suggested, that the chi ks should take particular days
'its the week with particular magistrates, lint that has nut been
adhered to, and the attendance of the clerks bus becu rather
mote proluir.,ction;.
Thule are three clerks lit the office, besides ao extra
clerk I—Yes.
h there sufficient lousiness to keep the three clerks ;old the
extra one in daily employment ? —Yes, I think there h :
the incidental business of the °dice .has latterly increased
very much.
What is the nature of lNctr personal attendance in that
office ?—lt is to attend thee Magistrates, :tad to take the de-
positions oryersotes brought behire them for acticeiti it is
the custom of that Mike foi• the clerks to take dawn. the evi•
dence in en ocenrretice book; I do ant believe that in the po-
thut is adhered to. I betieie the magistrates in
sew of the 'pOlice-Oltices tithe down the cridence themselves,
and that the depositions forthe Judges at the Old Bailey ore
made out from the hook by the clerk; but it is the custom ill
Dow-street, and bats been ever since I have knimii the ultiee,
Inc the clerk to take down the evidence.
How often tin you attend the °nice yourself ?—My 'days of
attendance are Tuesdays and Sistufmlays, tuure.parAicUfatin
'very frequealy attend there on other days. '
Do you in point of fact attend regularly on every Tuesday
and Saturday j—Yes, and very frceitrotly on other dayi. .
Do you attend the whole of those two days?—Yes..
The you think thitt if the three clerks attended cohstantly,
throUghont the year, their duty, there would be any, aetasion
to have an extra clerk ?-J think there would, bec,itiseahere
is"the bosinoei of Makittir out the asoattmlyreports, which are
froth our oflica toilmeSecietary of State; there
i~ tit 110,V4theet. llifiCe an immense nuMber of persons who
rata* to make :11fidavits particularly officers In the army 111111
navy on ia-pas,:and there area numberaf other ineideatal
matters, Which made it necessary an extra clerk slieuld be
established.
Tins were appointed hy the Secretary of State?—Yes,
daring Sir Richard. Ford's time.
Du yod act es Is solicitor?--Yes, I occasionally act as a so-
licitor. •
Are you not
.more employed upon your own private affairs
asd solicitor thane you are Upon the public affairs of Mow-
West albs T--Not I have a insure of business as a solicitor
mad attorne; at say time that ant prevented from ettentl7
big, elate r..lr. Thome. or Mr. Stafford has occasionally done
my (hay when I haVe been called wit),itts particular Intsiesces
us t have done theirs CM similar oecaaiturs. •
'lave you ever beard any reinuostrauces tirade on the part
of the inrigistrates, that.your attendance yeas. not ,as regulds'
es they thought It shotild be Magistrates hare rum).
Suite.); admit heenalbsent, that they required a stricter
ones dadee when I was originally appointed to that am" by
Sir Richard lota', it was withia his knowledge, nod the know-
ledge 'of time Magistrates, that I was a' sulicitor, and the small
salAry I ofitained stould'imt hive induced Me to attend wholly
linit*oldy.at the office : it was: witbid Sir Richard Ford's
hnowledge that I. waii.to be at liberty to attend to my profes.
slung! business,
Did 'you consider it as advantageous to your business as
solicitor to become a clerk in that office 1--Origioally it ht.
creestal toy business a little in criminal proceedings: It have
had very little of that
Do ygm act .as solicitor to persons brought before the oaks
for otlenccs ?—.No. Very seldom I have occasionally,
.ou par-
tienlar prosecutions, been concerned, but eery seldom.
Of, what nature were those . prosecnt ions ?--Felonies and
burglaries, and any thing of that. kind; but I have not had
any thing of that lately; the niogi.trctes, I believe, conk:, ive
it to be unlit atid'iniproper that a clerk shankd be concerned
in those' prosecutions.
you know
,whether it, is the:practice of tbrt Qtber clerla
in the office to tie concerned as solicitors fur oficntlets ?—I
Believe in moue of the other palice-olliee's the principal cleridi
are professional melt : when they were established, I believe
the ntaijor part of the clerks were :atomics, nod thatit is the
case with several of them now.
You city' Sir Richard Fad. undOrttood' you were to attend'Q
yourown bluntest occasionAllyi did he understand you were
to attend the ottice only two clays a week P—lt was nut, I be=
!kyr, al that time- mentioned, that there Should Ire any par-
ticular days, hut it was a regulation the clerks adopted trout
what the magistrates ,did; .!sir,.ll.itiltard Ford was made fie.
quaintest with: my situation at that time, which was about Its
or Idycars ago : my sulary'svaS lOnl.T: ills new hicreitied to
MI.: it was always understood that I should attend to my
own busineswalso.

Should /on decline acting as clerk of thrit office, if yon
were told 4110 attend 'tlitify +lir ditty there -upon your' present
salary should cerminlydecline my situation! if I were told
that I w to atteod regukrly erety day with tlif salary I
receive for it ; it is inadetitatte, to any professional person', or
'any,person ,Whather profassional or tit,t, who vim adequate
'to the duty of clerk to the atagi.strates.
You boissittgr ybut situation 4it to the office at aie-
coottirfeolvskieration to the' sttuatioit 4ou 'hat as a practis'

"Wiss.the appointment a verbal appointment
.?-11• Was' a
letter; l' believe, *Mien by Sir Richard tti liiikVof-
Ptiviivindi VOW wit's then Seerttary.of State. •
The duties- you were to perform were not pointed out,by
.84'141i:bard Font, but eitlYjonerally, that you were to attend
to your husitiets diaring part of the time ?—I 'was •tebe al-
Itsweit.t,r4o that t and if any thiugpurrteular Occurred on those
days, .Mr. niumus or Mr. Strittord hoesedunaturbushitats fur
mt. and I have done the same for them.
%rho fited"Tilesdays and 'Saturdays as your days hat
never been rulhereci toe at the Istirgistrates • adhere to MO
days ; It was proposed. by Mr. Stafford, but it has never been
adhered to; 'hat there are two dayrin the xeek that it is con-
sidered that 1 attend more regUlartythan the other days:
/as it considered that, there being titres clerks, one was
to attend on. ono day, and one on the other t--There is as great '
dial of busmets besides the linsiness before the magistrates,
thoutaking attithstrita and so on in the clerk's ofiico.
sire gr. Stalreircri two days ?—Mr, Statilard considers
his days as Sfomlays and Thursdays: those are the days that
Sir N. Conant attends.
Duosrattf. StatfOrdynttly attend•on those days ?--.110 attends
ether days prOtniscuously, like 'myself and "Mr. Thotims : we
not adhere strictly tai certain days, as thenutgistrutintdo,

[ti.otiitt•r RAYNSTORD, Esq. one of ihe •11.Taiislroles
of the Police-eice in Ilaiton,garden, exa►tititecl:l
How long have you been in that slitiationi--1
have been there about two yesis ; I ‘VIIS fttSha:l-
weli tWO years befor•e, making four.yeari alt: ge-
thetsthtit I have been a pollee magistrate:
no you hold any rubel. bituation of emolument
besides that of police magistrate other
vi l►f:iever.

Yon*. office is 011 C of the offices slipointefi by the
51 Gep, 111. ?-1t is.

What is the nature of the.attenthince that tr!e
-magistrates give in that office i—The Act ut P4l-