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1%14 thin 'VI . • . .
of ' -Y. being, 'Coetiniittad -under the order
ihe/rmr . Lordships ? Considering that some of
.siii se witnesses wiii. may be placed at your Lord-
it Ps hai have not 'that moral restraint operat-
-14" them as other witnesses might, I beg to
shi:, it the witnesses standing ,at your Lord,
thes' bar are placed in the same predicament as
help W°llld be plaCed as such in any of the Courts ;
ow
te L
ill, LORD CuCANGELLOR.—My opinion,, gene-
i ir sPeakin-,
g i 4, that they are so placed, an d
Lords prosecuted in the usual way.
e LIVERPOOL and KING made some- ob-
rions which were inaudible ; and
on °J,cl Crnuy .said—Then, my Lords, we are
.to
In,ss"-Ler this power as, settled, that these wit-
4,eis are liable to be prosecuted for perjury.
Ithe'crie rolling of the drums, with the sound., o,f,
rinlties without,. playing " God save the King,._
ute"'lced the . Queen's arrival.. In a few .mi-t.
.yi she entered the House, and took her
There
was
she, usual place, near the side door.
tke a
. greater vivacity• in her countenance and
JehaenLetioith
rthan we have previously witnessed.
CHANCELLOR desired the, Attorney-
-lenera,
.t to proceed.
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SUDDEN EAMINATION OF WITNESSES.
AN XD PRECIPITATE DEPARTURE OF Tit

Tii QUEEN. .
NMICITOR-GENERAL then Summoned. a witness,
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the"Th'nne Theodore illajn eel, who was immediately placed at
.I.in - "v• He is an imrelligent gOod-looking man, rith'thre
t,,i 1
was-rather fashion-
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~ 'air and large-hlack whiskers, and.iig.
his Haute, hastily
liirtiimaress„,t. The Queen, ond I ' '
rPaering herself on the floor
it'
I nntrwind to
behold
him,
a?
and throwing hack her toil In.
I'rd'er of tilt' witnesses box, r'.',l .. itins itliti Shrieked out
' slot's accurately to obs.trt,t. .
Artil a;.*ifUre!" and darting at him a mittified look of reproach
l''vr , av"l, rushed rapidly mit ofs sthfeolloo,si,tesdeatttiegii•e vent to
lw 1 •
'lll'irsrt.'l;lll(:;iii-u'itsdit:' Annl'rieaEtleMn iSlthoen .vaTh is litapitieteeiti,esd:attatheisidi:totarlit,ia:,lrnfe--
(I"..cs.Pilaceeeeif"nenle"eill:i;nuhteeC. Ni'la'jheis•tsycr,i.):;idilt
tailtettoil excl a Ina! Inn
,of the.
House with electric
ti.f.:eit operated upon the feelings (
L'ilte.,l l°')4 pause succeeded. Peers, Counsel, strangers,
lint • as if they doubted the evidence of their eyes and ears ;
te before the
I,r,„:' "'NI was s .olien and five Minutes
elapsedTii:ell"L's we;el resur.rieil,i. N .
l'atrb.r.o. LICITOR- G EN ER A I. then gave directions for the
till.,ll,:i'lrtr. Ll:ntdle:ii7lrentfto have the interpreter to he sworn on
~ ,cs.
i Mr /311,,,r,
yLouis,l wish to know if the
.tn"t ) ''''C'HANI said '—m- i hi s or of some other
hatt„lr he the servant of your Lott s
wit,: :refer
. this ease. Perhaps the betteir vii.•Paiy:faosr
tot
lina,ot 1;1d be,
cl.)..eir ordsips' permission, to aosss..,,—i i.
1. NI r. Planta, of.
the y(1).? N'llose employment are yot
rve,ir,re.ign.OlfiCe,.ordered me ittianttend on Mr. Mastic, and
(4. , iii)• instructions from hint.
gut ss \lr. ,Planta one of the Under . Secretaries at the Fo-
it:i: 'Alive, and is Mr. Maule the Solicitor o
Nl,e,,
flit, in 'MUGU A Nl,L'llien, my LOrds,
.11erareter s.vi,rn. I wish to have ano-
" thle "th was then administered to IN.olas Doria Spinettn,
tr I, 7 Part of the prosecution, andiStune,,,tt,i:i.oo:rLi on the Part
m " You shall
Ittlist Majesty's Counsel, in llie fil.tityviitii,,eir
44 slid truly interpret, according hest 'of your skill
Iteek4llderstainling between the seveinal witnesses who shall
k• -"Illied at the Bar and this House, such matters as they
' deli
NI,. nose. so help l."
that this
j y olunderstand(3
Ivitth, lion ona Al.---
wish to ku'Ow if he has under,,otto
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Is
i'Sn
Italian,
an!" . ruin „•‘• which I can prove ,
I'll 'l,ll°'''Paratiotis in his own c
could
appear
asbenow
dyes Politick. necessary hr fore
het know how the objection
l'ill:„ .11 he have not, I do no
.r.
~.merer, my duty to • st,tei.,sigh With your LortlSliiiiS.
1,.1t. is,, ii‘
my Lords, if it is 111
tle,,:t. i should also 'tike to 'no"...' with this, and dis-
tett,. Pion of the witness to distven,e ,
.ons..i.e
,or
his
testinlg with it, !if lie i-4' to be lielti rtsi. ii I I
I,ll,lelotty ?
Ilrointham, you 11111.4 i tgii•n•CtiANCELlOll•-- tirely9, .1.,, Isis oath to sweat
Ihe tr,:i'; '‘Wgre that the witness sms .r
‘l°; and'' alill notliing but the teeth,nitinty he allowed so lo
Eoa if Ile prevaricates, you will know how to deal With
h The Vt
"'illistan),!'"S, Who otaintailied the utmost compbsnre, wit-
'''ss the-,`'',ltt the extraordinary oc.corrence we)e have noticed,
Pret,rs l.sworn, through the medium of or of the inter-
olic:tin "1" usual f"rah
Noll, ('r GeiteraL—Your name ?—A. .
h4lir;il"r-14nteral.—Of what country are you a native ?—A
/hifc, !)! Siolandi
ts.ef'tur•Gerieial.—ls that in Italy ?—Tes; about thirty
, %1',..:" Lodi
ft d'u-:;4'Getie.ral.—Does he know Bartolomo Bergami ?
.111S41,ici:: -Get • Where did be first know him ?—A. In
Se u'l'ir;:jvre "f•C'rerraiellTal Pint,
ite'ke-cienerkl.
riTerssiis in the vearsAltB";3lusalrotiiln;eBit he first know hies ?
lilliell•r the ah,,,,, was ziven, in mista-e, -) (mistake, h ,the interpreter,
i. (Assoecasioned much I:slighter]
Was •4 '4'r routitllled )—Witness knew bins there, because lie
I, Mir hr sa'r'i' service.'4•`tli.sll"ltharn.—Can he (witness) speak or
lunlilerstand
":.tioli ,',,--r.ile does not speak or understand Eng.
k'f,l.rht pi,,(,;,e?neral.—ln what situa.tion was Bergaltsii"serting
lii
tliS'ererPs slime explanation between the interpretersas•
I"c"(.'„eiY to thiiextipe•tion. After which they both seamed
,11,:e'••,r, and the answer was giv to, `` Valet'")
j'N°4l2.mterPreatin seensed io meet the sanction of somae.
linrC t'urds, as weo observed Set eral give a nod of approh
S'i.i..,
Se:4'fiv-General.,--In what ultuation was the witness
„IYerteral Pino ?—A. Post.irilln•
.'°i'elt()"..icuel al —Does he .know in what situation 13• -
Nll, 'Ca' in v,spe.et to 'his finances?—A. fiances ?—A. lie knew hint
''',l. h-e"use he
,(witness) was lodging, in
.the sante inn with
.I Not. .
I;:5 "ICit"-Gen"al —That is not an answer to the questionn.
-'01."-e 'aster quest.ion repeated" He was more poor tits
(.1. ii-Steneral laughter.)
th4t ti nes witness know what pay he then received ?—A„At
k q ;II" lie received three Milan byres, per day. ,
' 4"id'e ,"" lie know whether 13ergami possessed any property
I,,,il*ii.i.sis Pay ?—A. No.'
-"eatt3l%—r-General.—What does he mean y- r.t.,,q?--reA. He
::::(,) il!'at,llergami received nothing else, lie was ..it ..erza.
-. Al.dlifr.'ellness leave General Pino's service before B ,
Q. w 'es•
did witness go, and into whose .setric?-slid
acel'rvirafterwards?--A. Vienna, where he entered into the
. ~
,01. the Duk de Itacanlona.
les .'juid witness ee
te-• into any service in Naples?—A.
‘,.(4' 1.,."° the stable service of Murat.
ls.' wrialist in that service, did he see Bergami ?—A.
„ . .
Itirn,, hen did he there see him for the first time ?. '
l'hich"itnVGllitm here wished to make au uhservi awn, upon
Lord y
.4 ilu 'IVERPnot, 'rose 411 d Said, lie was far fr om wishin‘g
tera:,erf,
fort re scrn tillouslv, a'gaiiist the Learned A •tc,irney•Gi,-
4hl'itilek the Quie'en • hat he Illosight the witilt ss s answer
hi, T,'' first hie, ,l 'before any objertions were made, .
trI,SSI4.e,""°IIGHAM with the greatest deference and eat-
-41". 9) in,Plored 'their Lordships not to ma.ke such a
hsThe -
-144 "" ClikNext iirt interrupted the Learned Gentle-
I) • It w 5,
,' ', • • '
!louse right on that point.
if it obi_ . lileessary to set the
was_.,.,„ fiasoiled ; for
tithe Wje're,"" "Slit. Learned Counsel , en
11 'Nisei,. r
!Pt' allosved to take an.excep ion tin. the
beforeuestln,
c: ilati ulef le iiii.glit wish to avoid
,would take place
-liet "wet' to rrevent it, as the answer would have the
d“t(li:'tl„4,'"ing the impression it was wished to prever!t.
....
-'51,,,-00 ahove repeattid.)—A. At the house of an intlist
Sq-Qs'ed Ilastcleni..
(Queitnr-General.—That is not. an answer. ,
(4. Astlnin again repehta.)—A. Id 1814. . 14. ~._olit what time ?—A. Ikefore Christmas.
cr_ (qu'vliere did lie see him ?—A. In a ron.—(Lau.b.).,_ .
Iles' heMi'"n reheated )—A. At the house of her Royal 111,,b
q fe Princess of Wales .
4°d it !V"id- t situation wa's he at that time ?—A. A courile,l:,
4, q, /‘ s commonly said, or reported—(Cries of " Stop.. )
•I't ''''sli the • . ll •ct as neatly as he ~.. in,
t... 1-4.,,,!..r. . witness to r‘co t ,
..., e
0. ..,e .1„:
Ili." tet. ,1:, tiroe lie entered into the sersic . i
.ti r
(:hr• "les ?—A. In the beginning f I
I q. t:stin„,. o. tie }eat 1815) .af-
. bmw
l'l'',. ( it his' answer with as much accuracy as he can, .
4.
•Ntili.iiri....iii,is was it front the time he had first seen Bergasni
He remembers so much,' that betore Chris t-

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n3.A hondayt Ileikim' i, tuld,liicn tn Call aAd he w n'ald tnalie him
a present.
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Q. He has told us, that at the commencement of the year
he entered the service Of the Princess. I want to know hOW
long before he entered the service of the Princess, it was that
he saw Berganii ?..---.A. A fortnight after.
Q. In what situation in the Princess's seriice did the
witness enter ?—A. A ierVant—Lrather a livery servant, or

lacquey. • • .
Q. Ask him, when he entered the service, whether Berff
gami dined with the servants These were - two
tables. .
Q. And at which of thiiie did he dine ?..=-A. At the table
of the higher servants.
The witness had stated the names of the indiViduals com-
posing this table, whom the :interpreter demiininated the
.6 higher servants." A Peer suggested the propriety of these
names being given.
Interpreter—Mons. Segaro, maitre d'hotel
a waiting- maid of the Dame d'honiteur, hut he does taut re-
member the name, being an Engliihwoman; the valet of
Dr. Holland ; he remembers ❑ohody else.
Did any other person divide the duty. of Bergami
ahotit the. person of the Princess ?—A. Mr. Hieronymus,
sons et Imes.
Q. Did they. take that duty by turns ?—A. By -turns,
amongst the ilityer servants of her Royal Highness. I trans-
late " upper servants"—Gentiluomini.
Q. Did any of those servants attend out of his turn ?—i.
'ln the morning, when they carried the tray for the dejeune,
many times Hieronymus performed the service.
Q. Can the 'witness describe to us the relative situations
'of the apartments of the Princess and of, Bergami He
remembers them.
Describe them ?—A. Prom the room of the Princess to that
wf Bergami, there WEIS a small corridor—a small cabinet ; and
immediately on the left, there was the room of Bartulomu

Bergami. •
Then between the two rooms there was nothing lint that
corridor and that cabinet ?—There was nothing else ; one
iv'ets obliged to pass through the corridor to the
,eabinet, and
from the cabinet to the room of Bet gami.
What other room was there next to the Princess?;—The
great saloon.
Did.any one sleep-in that cabinet?—'There was no person
who slept, in this cabinet; it was free—there was nobody
sleeping in jt.
Di t the other persons of her suite sleep near her?—They
were separated.
Does he remember an accident happening to Bergami
He does—it Was a kick from a horse.
Wh-en did it Irrppen ?—Whenher Royal HighneSs went to
the Lake of Agliano. . •
Did the witness attend him ?—He did wait on them.
ryas Bergami put to bed in consequence of the accident?—
He was.
Whilst the witness was attending hint, as be described, did
ha see the Princess?—.The first time he saw her Royal High-
ness,.was in the presence of • Heironynros and:Efeitiolland,
who was dressing his foot; they were both present..
Did the witness give him any broth ?First he brought
some vinegar.
Solicitor-General7-That is not the question—(Question
repeated)—Oftem.
Did any one come into the room whilst he was giving the
broth ?—Does not. remember.
Ih consequence of this accident was any direction given to
Witness where he was himself to sleep ?—Yes; on the sofa in
the cabinet beside the fire.
Was that thir cabinet of which he was. speaking?—Yes. •
• How many times did he sleep there ?—Five or "six nights.
While he was sleeping there did he seeklasy body pass
throngh that room-?—He did.
Who is the person he
-saw?—Her Royal HighneSs.
'Did he say t here was a- fire inrthe cabinet ?—There was al-
ways a fire there. .
Did the Princess pass. through the corridor towards Ber-
gami's room ?—She
'How many times (lid this happen during .the five or six
nights he states himself to have sleptin this room ?—Twiee.
At what time of the night was it on'tlik &Ai:Occasion ?—.--
About half an hour past midnight.' •
• How long did she rerpain there as pearly as he can recollect?
—Ten or fifteen minutes.
Tell the witness to deseride the 'manner in which she •pass-
ed through the cabinet—in which • way she, walked ?.—She
went very softly, came near witness's bed_ to see if bewas
awake, and ;Oen passed on.
Alter the Priness entered the bed•rooutrof ,Bergaroi, -did
be: hear conversation or any thing else pass between them ?
Only' some whispers.
Ile has told us how long she 'remained vin'-tlte first occasion;
let hint tell as brow long she stopt ou the,second ?!--Bet.W.eett.
15 and 18 minutes—some minutes noire or less.
Does the Witness recollezt havinglieard'hr Seco any thing
when the Princess was in the room nu the, second night.:
Whisper?—a whispering conversation.
Was there any garden attached to the liouse?—There was
a small garden attached to the eabinet Sdiserehe. was sleeping.
Was it kept open or locked ?—For the most part
Mr. Brougham —The witness said, for the most part al-
ways locked.-4(4iiestion repeated.F—More often closed' than'
open. •
Where were the keys kept?—ln Bergami's possession.
Did the Princess ever walk in that garden ?—lie had never
seen her.
How long did the..-Princess remain. at Naples after this
time ?—Till about March, 40 or 50 days.
Did the witness go with the Princess when she left Na-
ples ?—He did.
Before the Princess left Naples, did any of her English at-
tendants quit her?—Yes, there were some English who left

her. •
' Will he tell ns who they were? State the Gentletnen first,
and then the Lathes?—Monsieur Segal.; -maitre d' hotel,
Captain Hesse, Eclerry, that is said to be Eqto.A.ry, the Chap-
lain, whose name does not 'remember, a chamberlain, a tall ,
man ; does not remember how he was called.
Does he know if his name was Gell ?—l'es, the name was
Gell-rhe had small monitaehins.—(Laughter.)
Does he recollect the name of Craven ?—Such a name he
dates not recollect—it was an English name. I tell you lite-
rally what he says.
Ask hint if he remembers any other person who' left her
service?—lie does not; but if he should afterwards, he will
tell yon.
Ask him the names of the Ladies who quitted her ?—A
small Lady, rather thin, but he does not remember the name
—Lady, Lady something.
Does he remember Lady Elizabeth Forbes ?=-He does not.
Where did witness go to, when they left Naples?—'lb
Civita Vecchia; they embarked on board the frigate 'Clo-
-rinde, mail proceeded to Leghorn ; hut does not remember
whether her Royal. Highness's attendants had quitted her.-
From thence they went to Genoa, where a Captain Hounam
joined them. After Lad) Charlotte Campbell, and her two
daughters left, the Princess remained at Genoa from between
40 to 50 days, and lived in a palace on the road to Milan.
Did the witness recollect, on this occasion, if Bergames
chamber was situated near the Queen's? —Between the room
in which Bergantislept, and that in which reposed the Prin-
cess, there was a room for luggage or,lumber, which was oc-
cupied by nobody.-
How was the passage from the Princess's room to that of
Bergatni?—ln corning out of her Royal Highness's room to
enter the luggage-room. there was a passage thence onwards
to the room in which Bergami slept. .
Did Witness then observe where the Princess and ,Ber-
gatni were accustomed to take breakfast ?—Fier Royal. High-
ness breakfasted in a small room, at the upper part, or top,
of the grand saloon.
Did the Princess then breakfast alone, oy was any one with •
her at any time ?—Witness one morning saw her Royal High-
ness and Bergami takinglheir,breaktast there tegetber. • •
Was witness first hired into
.the service of Bergaini, or of
the Princess ?—To be at the service of her Rryal Highness.
upon
Did witness wait noon her Royal highness, or
gatui ?—He waited on both. •
Dul any other person breakfast there ? The witness saw li
nobody else.
Did witness now remember the coming of a courier, one
particular night, front Milan, to the Princess? He does not.
Did witness not remember his knocking at Berganti's dour
upon one particular night, and trying lo wake him ? He does.
For what purpose did witness knock at Betpuni's door ? To
call him tip, and inform hint that people were in the room:
At what time might this have taken place ? About half
after one.
Did Bergami make any answer? He did not.
Did witness knock so loud, that, it) his opinion, Bergami
must have heard hint ? Bergami must have heard witness
knock and call.
Was the Princess in the habit of riding out in any way?
Her Royal Highness sometimes rode on a donkey.
Did witness make any observations as tat what passed on
such occasions between the Princess and Bergami ? He did.
Tell us what passed when her Royal Highness was riding on
an ass ? Bergami took the Princess round her waist, to lift
her upon' the ass, andheld his hand to prevent" her from
while they talked to each other.
falling,W
as the condition of Bergami like that of the other servants
in the Princess's house; Hr, on the other band, did he appear
to possess more authority titan the rest?. He appeared to have
more authority, more command, than others had.
Was there an apparent distance; or, was there an apparent

ma cY, betweip the Princess and Bergami? Rather a fa-
miliarity or intimacy.
Did Bergami continue to sle'eP in the manner as des,crihed_
by witness during the whole period the nincess remained at
Genoa ? Witness does not remember.'
•ro what place did the Princess proceed, when she left
Milan ? Her 'Royal Higlnieis resided at Caracatima, near,
Ponte Novo.
Where did the Princess remove, from that residence ? She'
went to the house of Bus rola eo, the olllce of the Prefect of

Before the Princess quitted Genoa had any of the relations
of Bergami been taken into her service ? Yes.
Who were they ? He understood there was a sister of Ber-
gann s, called Panstina.
Was she single or married ? Did not know, because she
came without a husband.
Who else were taken in ? Louis Bergami; also, the mother
of Bstrgatni, and a little child.
Was the name of the child Vittoi ina ? It Was.
• How old was she ? Between t,‘ o alid three years, he believes.
Did the mother of the child accoinpany her ? No.
Are their all the family of Bergatui who entered into 'her
Majesty's service at Genoa! Witness can remember no others.
What Was the situation held by Louis Bergauti in the Prin. •
cess's househOld ? He was engaged as a courier.
Did Bergainitstuother fill any once or capacity? No; none
at that time. '
How were the aparfntents of Bergaml, and the Princess at .
this period situated-?-They, were separated by a wall.
What was the relative situation of the two rooms at ND-. •
lan ?—At first the elit'eance led, to an apartment on the right,
'and, Its, going strait forwardi froth the Princess's room, one
entered the room of Bergunii, and there was no room alter
that.
Witaess has informed their Lord'shipS that the apartment
of the Princess was separated from that of Bergami Sty a wall..
Was there a staircase or a landing-place, near the rooms?—
Yes. '•
Was there any door leading front the Princess's apartment
Yes.
' From Bergami's apartment too ?—Yes.
How far srustant were the doors of both apartments . froth
each other ?—H e thought about seven or eight feet.
Mr. Brougham here wished to he informed if any witness
for the Crown remained in the House. If so, he conceived
they ought to withdraw.
The Attorney-General could assure his Learned Friend,
with the utmost candour, that he had taken all possible care
to exclude witnesses, and he believed none were below the
Bar at present: but the wittiest now ex.intining.
After a few remarks to the same effect front the Solicitor-
General, who called on Mr. Brotighani to order all witnesses
out upon hies side, the matter -was dropped. •
(Mr. Brougham here observed, by the way, that if the pro-,
secution had no hetter kind of witnesses than the present,
he should call no witnesses at aIL)
Witness haul described the apailments as separated by walls,
and the distance of the doors. Now, did the doors of the'
of her apartments oven -on the landing-place, or was it a pri-
vate staircase ?—lt was a secret staircase, which led to the
small apartment, but was not frequented 11 any one.
Did any person sleep in the smaller room ? Yes, Louis
Bergatui.
Did the Princess breakfast alone when at Milan ; and if not,
who breakfasted with her? Sometimes she breakfasted by
herself, and sometimes with Bergarui. • •
Did any other person breakfast with her? Witness, had
never seen any one so breakfasting. He waited on her Royal.
Highness at such times. When witness was away, she was
attended by Louis or by Camarana: •
[low long, did the Princess remain at Milan ? Between 45
or AO days,
. While her. Royal ,Highness was at Milan, did she repair to
Venice
Had Lady Char. Campbell joined the Princess there? No.
I.)id Lady Charlotte Campbell come from Genoa with her
children to Milan ? Yes.
Did Lady Charlotte/Campbell go from Genoa to Milan, in
company with the Princess ? Witness does not remember.
How long was Lady Charlotte Campbell at Milan ? About
six days before the Princess set out for Venice.
Had Laity Charlotte Campbell left with her two daughters ?
WitneSs had supposed she took her daughters with her, be-
cause they were never seen afterwards. Was there any of
the Princess's English suite remaining at this time ? He
saw none.
• Did Witness know the Countess of Oldi ? lie did.
How soon after that Lady Charlotte Campbell was gone
did the COuntess of. Oldi enter the Princess's service? Two
or three days.
Was the Countess of Oldi a relation 'of Bergami's? She
was repotted to be his sister.- •
Wm that relationship to secret in the Princess's house, or'
ivas it early known ther”.„? It was a secret then.
Did ,witness know himself that she was the sister of Ber-
gami ? Yes, he Ct. • •
Was the resal.ter at length generally known in her. Royal
Highness's 'noose ? it was after some little time ; that is,
when stye was seen acting (oLticiating), and the whole family
saw her.
Did the Princess go. to the Grand Hotel next to a private
house,„, and how •were the bed-roosts situated ? . Next one
ntinthAt .(meaning those belonging to Bergaini and the Prin-
cess), but there was' a great saloon which divided them.
'slid the doors of both their bed-looms open to the great
saloon ? 'Opened, itrt be shore saloon.
Has witness seen the Princess walk out with Bergami, either
at Milan or Venice? • 'He had, at both cities, at Milan and at
I Venice; they walked arm in arm twice at Milan, and also at
Venice.. • -
Did they promenade by slay-light, or by night? They walked
out between nine anti ten at night. .. •
Inform its whether at any time Bergaini was seen dining
with thefrincess at her table? He had seen them.
When did witness for the first time observe Bergami dining
with the Pt inccss ? At Genua.
Did Bergami then continue to dine with her Royal Highness
at Genoa? Always, as far as witness can recollect.
Where did they sit, when at table? Her Royal Highness
sat at the top, with Bergarni, sometimes on her right, and
sometimes an her left, and sometimes he sat opposite the

Princess.
- Was the' Princess at Genoa more than once? Witness did
not remember.
Did the witness not embark at Genoa with the Princess?
• The foregoing was objected by Mr. Brougham, as designed
to refreA the witness's mind, and help him out.
After someconsultation on t he Woolsack, and a few remarks
from. Lord Ershine, the Solicitor Geneial was directed by the
Lora Chancellor to proceed
Did witness not return to Genoa, to embark, in a vessel
He
Was it when the Princess had ['!turned to Genoa that Ber-
gami dined with her first, or before she left Genoa? The first
time her Royal Highness was there.
Where dsd the Princess go after she quitted the Borronean
Mansion at Milan ? To the Villa d'Este, 'near the Lake of
Como, where she remained a month grin a half.
Were the apartments of those belonging to the household
at Milan at a dista,,ce from, or near to, those appropriated to
Berganii and the Princess ? They were distant far.
' Describe the relative sins:aims of the bed-rooms of the Prin-
cess and Berga:oi at the Villa de 'mini, and what number of
r,onts lay between that of her Royal Highness and Bergaini ?
.There were two other rOoms upon one side, and only a small
passage between them.
W ere I here two 'nodes of passing to the rooms occupied by
the Princess and Bergami ? Yes ; but nobody slept its those
rooms, which were apart front the rest of the house.
Did the witness in any case assist in making of Bergamrs'
bed ? He did.
Had WittwsS then observed if Bergami slept every night in
it ? Bergami's bed bad the appearance of Isis not having slept
there always..
Did the same'=•circumstance occur at the Villa de Latni ?
Yes. • • •
Did witness still remember the Princess wearing a blue silk
gown, lined with red? He remembered it.
Did he remember the Princess's giving that blue silk gown
to Besgami ? Yes.
Whether, after seeing the Princess wear that gown, the
witness had observed it upon the person a liergansi?
Always. •
In the presence .of the Princess? Yes.
Did Bergaini wear that. gown alwayi; or in the mOrning,
or about the middle of the day ? Every morning, whets he

dressed.
At what time did the Princess usually rise in the morning
At &iota half after ten, to eleven, and halt-past I I o'clock.
Was the Princess accustomed to call for her servants when
she rose ? Sometimes she called for them, but sometimes
she did not.
Did Bergami in general rise before or after the Princeis
rose ? Sometimes Bergaiiii got up at the same time as the
Princess, and at other times a quarter of an hour after her.
Where did the Princess go trout Villa de Lauri ? I o the
Villa d'Este.
foes witto ss recollect the relative situation of the bed-
roomsr the Princess and Bergami whilu'at Villa d'Este ?
reinember, becalise it was changed all neiv.
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did
,the change witness now described take place ?
When the. voyage to Egypt was undertaken.
How long did- witness remain at the Villa d'Este, before the
voyage to Egypt ? About two mouths.

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inhoard of tvhat vessel did witness embark ? Onistrard
a ship, of war; it was called the Leviathan.
Where did the Princess and suite proceed in the 14cailtban
from Genoa? To Porto Ferrajo, and from thence to Pa-
lermo.

Did the Princess go to the Court of Palermo? Yes.
Who accenipanied her ? Witness could not-remember;
her'ttoyal Hi;gliesrswas there for 25 days.. ,
Whither did the Princess go after sbe, left Palermo To
Did witness know the relative situation tat the bed-rooms ist*
her Royal Highness Mut ISertgatui then ?,-,Between the bed-
room of the Princess and. the bed-room of Bergami there was
another, in which her Dame d'Honnenr.slef•t,who was Bee-
games sister.., All the, servants slept far off.
Was there a communication trout the Princess's room
Which rendered it easy tai, go from Berg:lan's chamber to
her:?—None' except by passing the bed-room of the Dause

d'Honneur. _ _ -
Had witness a recollection of the Princess breakfasting
Bergatni at Messina?—Yes. •
Where did they breakfast ?--There was a cabinet behind
the Princess's room, where they breakfasted, and the cabinet
led to a garden.

did he recollect.Pergawi'a

While witness was at Messina,
asking the Princes's fur leave of absence' in order•to snake souse
purchases ?-1-tedid.
Did the Princess give hint leave ?---stilie did. •
•
Mention what occur►rd at their parting ?—Witness saw•
Bergaini, when the Princess was g,!lig to breakfast, ask leave
of her Royal Highness to make purchases.- When he bad.t).
tained lea►•e, be pressed her hand-, and then kiss,d
Did Be'rganii kiss the Princess's hands, or bet lips ? Her
mout .

•
[Witness was here perplexed so seriously by questions
put to him, that, wishing to be understood, he squeezed the,
hands and offered •his lips to those of the Interpreter.]
How long did. the Princess remain. at Messina? Some
twenty pr twenty-five days. •
To whit place did the Princess go from Messina ? To Syra-
cuse, and by sea.
When arrived there, did the Princess lodge in the town, or
in the neighbourhood? Out of the town,
Was/the house near" the. pier? About a gun-shut in dis-
tance.
Describe, if you can, the relative situation of the bed-room
of the. Princess and Bogami Her Royal 11,gliness slept in
an apartmcot underneath, and Bergami slept above.
Was there a private staircase leach.; flow one room to the
other room ? There was,. and it led immediately to those

ruows.
Was there any other kind of entrance for the servants to
the Princess's room ? Tare was another fro:• the
tltuinn-
room.
Did witness ever see Bergansi going to the bed room of the
Princess, not entirely dressed, before this period ? He remem-
bered it.
[Here Mr. Brougham whispered, that a person might gtr
into a bed-room,,and yet see nobody in
When did witness see this ? If he recollected right, at Cas-
tella Mare.
How did Bergami look! In loose stockings, with a surtout,
and only his drawers on.
Describe the situation of the rooms at Catania, where the
Princess and Bergatni resided ? They were separated by a
court. •
Was there any thing besides the court that interposed be-
tween the two rooms ? Nutting else hut that court..
Could any one, after the parties were in hefd,,. get into the
court ? No,, because there was a door that was locked fast.
Did witness remember that Bergansi was taken ill at Cata-
nia? Yes.
Did witness recollect the necessity for warbling the bed ?
He did; had warmed it, and remembered the Princess was,
present then.
Was the PriticesS in Bergami's room when witness came. .-
there, ot: afterwards? Her Royal Highness carne after hint.
Berga.mi was sitting on a stool, as ir unwell.
:Were directions given to witness fur warming Bergarai.'a
hed ? Yes; by the Princess, who directed bias to suak.e it
comfortable, neat, smooth, Zice.
Had Bergami taken medicine- when ill ? Yes.
Who mixed the medicine ? Witness did not remember.—
Her Royal. Highness temaitied in I he room while the bed was
warming; Bergami was- partly undressed; be wore only a
dressing•gown. •
How long did the Princess then remain at Catania? A
months and a half.
To what place did her Royal Highness go next ? To Ephe-
sus, . and by \sea. ' .
What was the position of the bed-rooms of Bergami and the
Princess? There. WAS a small court, whence the es►trancr kit
to the rooms.
Could any ope'get into the court after they were, in hed.?—
'No. At Augusta they embarked in-a polacea for Naples.'
When the Princess was either at .Catania or Augusta di:3
Bergami receive any kind of title? Yes, at Catania.
Was he ever t here called his Excellency ? Yes, at Catani.s,
and wore the Order of iklalta.
Had he ever tad the title of Baron? Yes, that of Baron
Francina, which title he received in Sicily. • '
Mitre did Bergami sleep while himself and the .Princess
were on board the polacca ? He usually slept so the cabin
where they dined.
Was the Princess'steabin near Bergami's? It was.
Whef e did the Princess reside while in' urin ? Arthe Eng-
fish Consul's first, and afterwards at the Palace of the Bey,
What was, the relative' situation of' the sleeping rooms of
the Princess and Bergami in the Bey''s Palace? They- wer"..
not very near. •
Whatsseparated them ? First there was a little room next;
Bergami's, then a passage, a larger\ roons where nobody slept, • '
and then the Princess's rosin. .t
be small room was teever.
used ; 'it had no bed.
Did the rest of the PrinceSs's suite repose in that part-of
the house? All of them slept in another part.
• Did the Princess go in the same vessel to, Constantinople,
Scala Nova, Eithestis,' &c. blade no stop at Scala Nova,'
but proceeded to Grotto, at Pausilippo, and then put up at a
Cafe Tore.
Did witness remember a vestibule, and also a small church
near it ? He remembered it well.
'Where (lid the Princess sleep that night ?- Undern bower.
Was witness sent for either by the Princess or by Bergami
to come to that vestibule ? He was. • • -
Was the Princess there? Yes, and Bergansi too, but nobody
else. The vestibule was surrounded by a wap. Witness
Carried the Princess's travelling bed there,.by the ditection of St
herself and Bergatui, who remained there to dintbervand'weee
alone.
Where was the Princess then sitting ? On tire bed.
Where was Bergami then seated ? Ott the ground, at the
feet of her Royal Highness.. •
Did they remain there'after dinner ? Yes;
.there was no-
body else there. The bed remained for an hour and a half..
Wit hvss now stated, that they had proceeded from Egypt to,
Scala Nova, and lauded at St: Jean d'Acre;Wheuce they re-
phired to Aumn. •
Did they travel by day or by 'night? By night, sod reposed
by flay under tents.
Does witness remember the tent udder which the Princess
slept ? Hu does; it was distant some six or seven paces from
the rest of the tents. There was-also a small travelling bed,'
together with a Turkish sofa, under her tent, which consisted
of two circles.
Was the bed or sofa inthe- inner tent? In the inner tent.
Both tents were of a circular form ;.anil the inner and outer
tents were of the distance,of arm's lengths.
Who was in the inner tent ? There was Bergami,and some-
times the little child.
Where were Bergami and the Princess (hiring the time
allotted to sleep ? Both tents were closed at tides but
during the time of repose, the inner tent was generally shut -
from the inside-. •
• Did the Pribeess and Bergami so remain all the time al-,
lotted to rest ? "They did.
Where did theygo next'? Ta Ragnsa ;• and in their way
to JernSalens they
.encamped in the same manner, and slept
under one tent, for about two days. After returning froth
Jetusalem the Princess embarked. at Jaffa, in the polacca..'
She slept in like nianni on her'first voyage. to Jaffa.
On enibarhing at Jaffa, te return, home, did the witness re-
member the tent, pitched on the- polacca's deck ? 'did;
with the travelling. bed. Bergami and herself slept upon •
deck till their landing. She always slept so.
Were they shut in?—When they went to sleep. the whole
tent was closed up.
Did they atse,4 lantern orlaniii in going to-bed?—They
used a lantern. - -••
•
What was afterwards done with the light, when they were
undressed and ready to go tit lieill;'1:-Bergaroi sometimes told
witness to take away the lightiasitut it outside. •
•
Were the beds made every night iiitYes, every night: - r
Did witness know of the Prinoesefs bathing on board the
vessel ?—Yes, in her own cabin. •
Who assisted her Royal Highness in taking the bath ?
Witness first carried the water there, :iftkr which Bergami
felt the ton ; temperature he then went.up stao, and handed-the'
Princess down ; the door was shut, and 13. ergatni and the Prin-
cess 'remained by -themselves in the cabin. • •
Did witness then remember her. bathing morethan once?—
Yes, more than once. When Bergamtand the Princess were
More waters
taking the bath, witness was called to supply

wrren ne took
one pail of hot water and another of cold, which
ilergami took from him at the cabin door.
Was the Princess at the time actually in the bath or not ?
did not know.

Where was witness's catpin ?—T-le slept in the dining-roont
. upon a. sofa, which was under *the Princess's tent upon the
• -deck.

Did witness hear any noise or motion made over bins at any
time._ when life Princess and Bergaini were there?—Fes,
he had.

iVhat did that noise 'resemble ?—(Witness described a noise
fro digus•ting, that we cannot attempt to convey it even dis-
tantly to the public.)
He remembered the Princess and Bergami both taking leave
at another time, and kissing at parting.
.• Did Witness know the Villa Bergami ? Yes; it was Bart,-
Ira once, but changed to Bergami now. It resembled a good
• farm house. Bergami bought it, and he and the Princess
•wto e Owe about six weeks.
De-tribe the bed-rooms? BIM) opened on the same land-
ine place, and there wsr,t-ft freo "communication front Berga-
rni's chamber tri the. Princess's room. They were separated
from all the rest of the family. Her Royal Htehness gave
kills at Villa Bergami, to which the peasants came; but the
trobilitr did not visit her.

. Did witiiess renirmher the arrangement of apartments on
the Princess's journey to Bavaria? Hcremembered well the
atteratiiiii!, at the Golden Statf, at Mimic!), whic;i were altered
from the first orders, by Bergarni, in the presence of the
Princess, after her arrival.

• Diet the witness remethher what passed at Carlsruhe ?
• Here the Nlarquess CAmnEN rose to move the adjournment,
it being past four. Alter some observations from the Lord
Chancellor, Earl Grey, Lord Grenville!, the Earl of Lauder-
dale, Lord Erskine, and the Eall of Liverpool, their Lord-
ships thought proper, at five o'clock, to adjourn. It was
settietl, though not without some opposition, that the House
should henceforth sit every day from ten till four, as it was:
impossible fur the Interpreter,
tif sit longer without injury to their health and dis Service to
thisimportant cause.

Adjourned at 5 o'clock.—ller Majesty did no
fc-enter. the House in the course of the day.

HOUSE OF' COMMONS.

The SPE tKER took the Chair shortly before
four o'clock, and he -afterwards informed the
Mouse, that Henry Grattan, Esq., complaining
of an undue Election for Dublin, and Mr. Brady,
regarding Colchester, had failed toenter into the
requisite recognizances. Order for taking the
Petitions into consideration accordingly dis-
charged.

MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS.
A Bill was brought down from the House of
Lprds, to indemnify the Earl of Yarborough who
had sat and voted in that House without having
taken the oaths. It was forthwith taken into
consideration, put through all its stages, and
passed.

PRVICEEDINGS AGAINST THE QUEEN.
Lord CAsTLEREAurn, with the view of determin-
ing the propriety and the period of. further ad-
journment, moved that a Committee be appointed
to exam:ne the Lords' Journals as to any pro-
ceeding relative to the conduct of the Queen.
Mr. TIERNEY said, he should not oppose this
motion, but he protested against such proceeding
Lein& construed into approbation of the mode of
trial.

Lord CASTLEREAGH. observed, that no such
acquiescence could be inferred from 'approving
of this motion.—(lfear, hear !)
Committee appointed, and directed to report
forthwith.

RUSSIAN NOTE.
Lord JOHN IttissELL asked, adverting to the
Russian Note touching the Spanish Revolution—
ttn at which most persons justly rejoiced—
whether this Country was under any engagement
to 'co-operate with Russia and the other Allied
PoWers in any interference with the affairs of
Spain, should such interference be determined
upon .

-Lord CASTLEREAGH had no objection to an-
isver the question, or rather the argumentative
case, which had, been put ; but he must oh-
serve, . that he did not understand the Note to
declare the expediency of interfering to check
the 'Spanish Revolution ; he considered it as ex-
pressing a strong opinion against a violent change
produced by military aid. As to the question,
this Country was under no engagement or under-
standing to co-operate with the Allied Powers,
even should they act hostilely towards Spain ;
the only Treaty, and that was before Parlia-
ment, was that of 1815. That only engaged the
Allied Powers, in the event of a revolutionary
commotion in France, to " deliberate " on the
propriety of interfering in concert.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL expressed himself satis-
fied with the answer.

MT. BROGDEN presented the Report of the Com-
mittee appointed to examine the. Lords' Journals,
which set forth what proceedings the other House
had taken respecting the Bill of Pains and Pe-

ADDRESSES OF CONDOLENCE.
Lord CASTLEREAGH then ;rose, and said, that
previous to moving the question of Adjournment,
he should propose that an Address of Condolence
be presented to his Majesty, on the death of the
Duchess of York. •

Mr. G. BENNETT bore testimony to the excel-
lency of the Duchess's chardcter. Having lived
in the neighbourhood of her residence most of
his life, he had experienced frequent opportuni-
ties of observing her conduct. Her hand and
heart had ever been open to perform the most
useful charities.--(llear :
Motion agreed to, as was a like Motion for a
similar Address to the Duke of York.

THE KING'S 4EWS.
Mr. IronuousE presented a Petition from 170
persons in the neighbourhood of Charing-cross,
Leicester-fields, &c. complaining of the severe
injuries and losses sustained by them by the clos-
ing of the King's Mews.—llead, and ordered to
be printed.

AGRICULTUR A L AVERAGE.
Sir J. NEWPORT inquired whether it was true
that the ports were open for the introduction of
foreign grain, by such an arrangement of the re-
turns as to make the proceeding depend on the
fractiOnal part of a penny ?
Mr. F. Ito HINSON' replied, that the statements
respecting certain returns were not correct; after
which an extended conversation ensued, in which
Mr. Western, Mr. If. Sumner, &c. took part, the
la:ter conjuring Ministers to prepare a corrected
Corn Bill, to amend the node of taking the ave-
rages.

ADJOURNMENT.-THE QUEEN.
Lord CASTLEREAGH moved, that the House at
its rising adjourn to September 18, Monday four
weeks. At that ti.ne they might be able to
judge when it would be requisite to meet for the