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London, England, 1820-12-09 00:00:00

MIDDLESEX MEETING.

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Yesterday, pursuant to requisition, a meeting of
the- Electors 9(.411e County of Middlesex took
place at the Mermaid, Hackney, .Mr.' Sheriff
W,tyrum As in the Chair. The two Members for

the Cotlitty, Mr.Tyn, and Mr. Whitbread, were
present.. At one o'clock, ,Mr. WAITHMAN took
the Chair. He apologized for the abSence of his
colleague, I'4r.Williams, by stating that he was to
go up that (124 witl4 a loyal and dutiful. Address
from the COurt of Aldermen to His
.Majesty.
He expressed regret,for the disappointment some
per Sons had exprienCed last week, Who attended
there from an expectation that the Meeting was

to have taken place on iFriday. He did every
thing in his-Power to preveni the inconvenience,
,by sending. a paragraph round to the Morning
Papers. The Requisition was # then read. It
stated that the object of the Meeting li'as to.ad-
dress his(Majesty, prayingthit he -would
.dismiss
the present Ministers, and also to vole an:Ad-,
dress of 'Congratulation to the Queen, on the
abandonment of the Bill of Pains and P'enalties.
Mr. P. Mooric observed, That he was one of those who had

been instrumental in calling the Meeting to address the King
to change that system which had been so ruinous to , the
people. He was glad to see their worthy Magistrate in the
Chair, for he was one who had done much to enlighten the
public mind, he bad been greatly instrumental in making the
sentiments of the City of London almost wholly in favour. of
the People. He (Mr. Moore) had recently had an opportunity
of speaking to them largely respecting Green Bags. ThOse
filthy bags had been blown into air; not a vestige' remained;
but, he repeated, all had beets done, by the voice of the people.
The Country saw what had been done by attacking the Green
Bags ;—bat what might hare been the result had, the'Cato-
street Conspiracy, which was ‘• a Green Bag outof doors,"
or the Manchester Green Batt, been exposed ? These, and
the thousand other Green Bags, the stinking Green pays,
were of a like character—but•they had now been -pretty weld
exposed. He lamented, however, that no reference:was made
in the Requisition to the present system carried on, which
produced 'gambling" the 'Funds. The Uoilolidated Fend
had hen broken ,trpon—t he Country had 'been "deceived
out of 3.so•riiilljont4And while littat system, lasted, there was
tin hope of redeni'pfroli.;' .condutred with moving-a Ileio-
Ititionfor air Adill:es3,iti. the King to •disthiss his Ministers;
who had sought to bring into. contempt the cl*nity of the.
Crown. • , •
Mr. 11t 1.1. s rose to propose an amendment toifhe Address,
' but -AVRS. calted: Co tiw; ChaVrinan, 'ivtit;l'erathted'hin,
that'the hUnot •yet. been read.: The onty question
may was, whether, nut ant AddreSs shoilld• be pretiente,d. .•.
Tlteßesoletiriti'brong put froth the Chair, ;,
"Mt. (whi) was received With
if•he understoosl2lfie Resolution, thy object of•id.;was to"cen-.
sure the presentMinisters-,and to address his MttjetY, for
the purpose of substituting other.) better qiiali6ed fo fill their.
'Places. However they might differ inetpinioll=frontltlinisfers
eprpert)Hie trusted they would never. be ke•
(Need to a situation))) which they would have only an humble.
iniii'Viduallike himself to defend'lliel't cause.---"(The'noise:be;
came violent far. some minute;, and Mr. Milian)* could riot be
tiri,rit.),.—He trusted the meeting, infairness, would hear what,
hr had,to say. He never murmured against any Gentlenian
'who might differ in opinion stiiti'him. SUppose the Ministers I
dismissed, who .were to• fill their placesi—(V.proar.)—An
allusion had been made to the Green Bag system. In lts
opinion it would not have been possible to bring the questimi
of hei Majesty's guilt or introcenee before Parliament in any
-other way. Erroneous notions,: prevailed:sioonc the
with respect to 'Ores n Bags.
The noise became so great that tbiS.Gerttleinan was obliged
to desist, amidst:loud tries-oknock" him itowif, WNW big i,ut
of,the winduly, • . . .
The Resolution was then put and agreed to.
Mr. P. Moi,tte thett'iatai for'syaid Zo propose-tite-Addrrit!
It went into 1 ong, detail of the.distressesot t eon ry.,; lernti '
cUnclu4ed by poying'that;,,iiik,Maiesty would he pleased for
'1A1.11.• tigTH r A; ilAlrlt sp44ch',•eearlded the rtrotioti..l
:What hg vintlernx,n sajd.iwitsfoT the Iliktnitpart
Mt. Mat.a proposed anothgc..Adiltisst as pr n.,94entitupiA,
initth longer, t ind "nater in l'enguage"thill ADIS'

• of Mr. Moore. The ptincitral tif -.differtilCe however
was, that Mr. Mills reqffired as an indispensible condition
from any Ministers who might go into office, that they should
pledge .themselves. to bring about a Reformi in •the present
.cysteut of Administration.
Major CARTWItIGHT seconded the amendment, in as much
as it supplied it great deficiency in the otiglnal Address. A
Reform in Parliament
:was the only thing that could restore
the country to liberty and happiness. 'Tie removal of one set
of Ministers and the appointment of another was not suffi-
cient. After all that had been said about Ministers, the truth
4as, they were only the slaves and tools of the Borough Fac-
tion. The Boroughmongers were in fact the tyrants who
held real power. Ministers were but• mere chaff, the tools,.
the wretched slaves of that Faction. .
Sir GERA RD NoEi. preferred the Address of Mr. Mills to that
of Mr. Peter Moore. It was conceived id language much more
nervous and effective, and it was altogether, in- his mind,
- wore applicable to the subject immediately under considera-
tion. lie was quite convinced that it Would meet with the
perfect cotturretice of the meeting. • •
Mr. RYNG shouldnot have risen at that period had it not
been for the concluding 'sentence of the Gentleman's
address. He certainly hop'ed that the proposed Address of
Mr. Mills would not. meet with their ennui; rence. Retbought
•it right to state, that sneh was his opinion ; and he should
be deficient in. the dot y•which he owed to them did he not
fearlessly express that opinion.. lie should give. them his
reasons for that opinion., The Address stated, that the pre-
sent Representatives in Parliament were illegally elected,.
which was calling upon them not to look on • the House of
Commons as the legal Representatiyes of the People.
In the next place"; he had been taught from his boyish
years that it, wris. a wise practice adiipted by their an-
cestors at the -Revointion, never -to enter •into any per-
sonal altercation with the Sovereign. to hold the
,maxim
that the Kitrir could 'tin no wrong—(Hisses)—hut that
Ministers were responsible for every. act of --political miscon-
duct. The address of Mr. Moore was quite consistent with that
principle. Ile openly attacked Ministers, and that system
which they had pursued for the last thirty•years, and in that
there was nothing personally disrespectful to the Sovereign.
During the whole course of his (Mr. Byng's) political life he
had endeavoured, as far as his exertions could tend to that
object, to obtain a Reform of the Commons. Muse of Parlia-
ment ;—(Applauses)----but while the House of Cownions re-
mained constituted as they wile, they must be looked on as
the legal Representatives of the people—(Hisses, and cries
of No !).---and be should never consent, as their Iteloi-cseii-
!alive, to tarry .an Address to the Throne personally Offen-
sive to the SoVereign. Those were the sentiments which he
-entertained, and he should never recede from the avowal of
them.—iHisses.)—He never obtained or expected a favour
from the Sovereign, nor .was he a frequenter -of his- Court ;
but be felt that respect was due to the King,. and that respect
was not incompatible with duty to the people. ;rhose were
his fixed opinions with respect to unposed Address of
Mr. Mills, and also his dozy as their Representative; and he
thought it right and manly at this period of the meeting to
make them known. If by the declination of his sentiments
he should incur their displeaSure, he had still a higher tri-
bunal to obey, his own conviction, and this he must obey,
though he • might thereby forfeit their esteem, which he
prized above all other earthly considerations. • •
Mr. Iluste attended the meeting without meaning to offer
his sentiments on the subject for Which they had been con-

s;ened; but front what had fallen from the Hon. lientitinatt
who just addressed them, he thot4;lit it necessary to Make a few
observations. With respect to which of the two Addresses

they should choose, lie conceived that a selection was not ter,
ditificult. He had paid the most anxious attentio:t to lioti
the Addresses, in order that he might discover what was ott

Jectionahle, and what good in eachof I hem, in order't that they
might reject the one, nod adopt the other, and he cuuld
assure the worthy Mover of the first Address, that he
want the whole length of that Address; hut he thought that
under the presot circumstances of the Country, it did not go
.hailf far enough. Tire -Hon. Gentlenmn 'then proceeded to
suggest a few alteratious -in the Address proposed "by Mr.
Mills, and coneludedby recommending; it to the support of the
meeting.

Mr. BYNO rose, and was received with considerable disap-
probation. He said, that tie did not rise for the purpose of
stating their opinion but his own, and
,he should never be
prevailed upon to present an Address which contained no-

thing more nor less titan 'treason. -The Hon. Gentleman who
spoke last hail proposed several emeneations in that Address,
and he hoped, that- if the meeting, apptiii-ed 'of 'the Address
itself, he,
would at all events require ii.f4ir copy of it, since
it was quite impossible to tell what it meant in. its present
,improved slate of confusion.
Mr. Mt LLs thought, that the amendments proposed by-Mr.
Hume would have satisfied the host fastidious mind ; for he
hesitated not to assert, ttrat there was not Only not treason-
able language in the Address, but that ii did not contain ime
single word which conid reflect dist espect nimn his Majesty ;
and be thought it unbecoming any
.man, however high. might
be his station, to utter in that place what was circumstan-
tially untrue.
The Cum am.sN rose to order. He could never remain in
that Chair for one minute when such language was applied to
any -Gent lermtn.
Mr. Mt Lis apologised for the irregularity into which be had
been so unconsciously-hetrayed ; but be believed there was

nothing disrespectful in the Address.
Mr. MoottE was willing' that the great question'of PAr!ia-
mentary Reform should be incorporated with tlat Address
which he had the honour of proposing. •
Mr. 13vNo moved, that 'a Committee might be appointed
fOrthwith to prepare from the two Addresses one whiCh ,hauld
he• proposed to the Meeting: He conceived the question of
Parliamentary Reform ought fOr the present to be abandoned,
since it was a question upon whicb the public opinion was
touch divided; and in the • treatMent of *he •Qtreen there was
but one opinion, and that was, that •Minliters deserved
universal reprobaticin for their conduct on the treatment of
the_ Queen.

Mr. Wurrottgau—ln consequence of the difference ofopi-
nion which had so unexpectedly occurred, he rose to pi Lipase
a course cf proceeding which, in his opinion, would meet with

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their concurrence. He did not think the Address of Mr.
Moo e went far enough—qtheersj—liut if Address of Mr.
Mills was proposed, as he read it, he should certainly nut have
given it his support. It contained many things highly offensive
to the King ; and though he did not go the length of the P.i• 114
of London, who said, that upon a moral question,' the King
could do no wrong ; yet he held it to lie a wise and sate maxim

that in political questions Ministers alone were to lre,held re-
sponsible. With respect to Reform in Parliament, it was
included in the dismissal of Ministers. He should,not
pass further on the time of the meeting, lest their proceed-
ings should resemble the Minister?, Which generally took
plate in the dark. Mr. Whitbread concluded by moving that
a Committee consisting of Mr. Byng, Mr. Hume, Mr. alder•
man Wood, himself, Mr. Mills, Mr. Pearson, and,Sir t4erard
Noel, he forthwith appointed, With instructions.to prepare an
• Address:. ,

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Tiw queition was then put, and 'the proposed. gentlemen
appointed on the Committee.
Sir GERARD NOEL moved, in the absence of these gentle-
men, an address of Congratulation to her .Majesty, on. trey
fortunate escape from the, .ate foul conspiracy against her
. .

purity and honour, and concluded by rcadhig a letter frolti a
gentleman of Brussels, which stated, that Baron oaWeda
previously to his appointment to the Milan Commission, was
in a state of pauperism, and shortly atter his appointment be-
came rich, and died worth fifty thousand ppunds.
Woowt was called on by the meeting. fie said, that
be should merely detatutheva during-the absence of the Com-
mittee, and compared the meeting to,a flock of sheep, and
.himself to their' shepherd piping on the mountains. Ile %Vas
lom3ly applandLd. -
Mr. PEAttsog proposed a Resolution, which he %vilely oh
served, ought to follow thesAddress itself. It .easo-thautlie;
Address should he entrusted to the Dukts of Bedford and
Leinster, and the Earls Grey and. Grosvenor, 'to ts'ir•by them
presented to his Majesty. '•"
The Committee returned,Jand the offspring .of theie labours
was read with great.popnlar effect by Mr. Milk, and carried
ututimously. • '* • •

By an amendment to the motion of Mr. Pearson, Lord
Erskine was included in the' list of those who Weir
appointed to present the Address to his Majeity,
Votes of thanks were past-,rd to Aldertnau, Wood; Mr. Bytig,
Mr, Whitbread, the Chairman., Mr. flume, Sir.cierao goal,
and also to Mr. Pearson, for his late exertions in bringing to
light the conspiracy of Franklin. The several t-lentlemen re-
turned thanks, and the MeetinV,separated peaceably. '•

Wednesday evening lot, there was ia 'Meeting
Of, the Inhabitants Of St: Ann's, Limehonse,.. held
for addressing the QUEEN,-111 the-Boys?-National
School of that Parish. The Senior •ChnichWar-
den -took the appointed 'Chair, when '.gr. Rxcw-
.ittns ON took occasion. toprotest against he -a buSe
of the National Rooth; aid- soon .afer left.
Several Resolutions were 'subsequently carried,
Thanks were voted to. Lady" Ann- liainiltan", in
tizinSjcieration of her at(achmene to the. QUeen.
'uir this, and another vote of thanks to. -Air.
FRO) the Meeting.diSpetsed,
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IQIT Y of LONDON !TAVRIIN,Dec. WO'
. At a, „GENERA:I4 • ANNUAL MEETING of SHIP'
OWNERS ordaEAT BarnuN; held. bete this• day, G:
fbt flyable. to—
rry ft
,Eifie'rtisiment, receive' the' REPORT' of tu-
comm,s4a to .ELECt E HT NI EM 11 ER§ , thg
room sar 00dumber who are to go out by rotation: .
JOi-IN W. IdUCKLE, Esq., Chairman; ,a•
The: Mita Report was read arid: approved, with one
air
sentient. voice, „::. - .

Upon the motion of Mr. ThOinas.trquhart,
' esolVed unairimously,lhaf it be reciotum ended to the any
mi4ee:of Society to consider of a Petition to the- 06";
House of .Commons, praying their Hon. House- to appo.io••
Committee ttrittil'eitigate all our Maritime Laws and Instittr.
*tits ac'regard Seamen, and heilr evidence thereon, with I.
view to foun a Code.of Nlaricte--Law for our Merchant Sersucei
anti to arrange-a. System. that. will tend to ,roan our Navy al'4
Merchant 4.4ervite.etfectnally, during the time of Peace V!'.
War, with regular bred- British Seamen, and without the at;'!
of Foreigners, . .
That, after—sucli a Petition- sball.liare been drawn up f°'
the purposes ties-cribed; a Public Meeting be requested of tbeu.
Merehants,•Ship7owners,.. and Mastee-mariners of this -Poit
to exiiress their sense and consent to. the same, to prolVte
the object intended.
Resolved- Unanimously, That the thanks'of this Meeting-11j;
given to the Committee, for their continued attention,Otij
their valuable services. .
Resolved unanimously, 'that the future annual meetingi.
this Society be-beld on'the 211 Thursday in DeceMber.-
The Chairman reported, That the following eight gert'`i
men had -beeti elected Memberi-dithe Committee, to
that number who had one out by rotation.
Henry .Blatisftafd, Esq. 'Thomas Gillespy, Esq.. ._
William Curling, F.sq. Ge-orge Lvall,
John Dawson, Esq. CliritoPler Nockels, Esq..
Jultn.Graham,; Esq. IV i I Parker, Esc,
J. W. BUCKLE, Chairmart..,_
Int the warmest thaolii,,f t.
irinan, for his zealtuts ant: P'.
refit of the. Shipping Intere.!
.S. COCK, tie"

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Meeting, be• given-, to the (Thai
severing eSertiiini ft 4 the ben,
the Kingdom. • - -

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