The Sun.
London, England, 1845-06-27 00:00:00

GROUP LL.

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LONDON AND RRIGHTON (WANDSWORTH)
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
Mr. ltollinson, the proprietor and occupant of valuable nursery
grounds and premises at Tooting, consisting of dwelling-houses,
conservatories, ornamental grounds, &c.—The line would pass
within 108 feet of the entrance to these premises, and completely
block up the present convenient and open approach to them by
means of a high embankment which was to be raised for the pur-
pose of carrying the tumpike-road over the railway.
Mr. Driver, the surveyor, had valued the land which would be
necessary for the projected line at 26,0001., but the fact was it
would not purchase a tithe of it. The land had been estimated
according to its abstract value, not taking into account the incal-
culable damage which it would create by severance, and by destroy-
ing the beauty, and in many instances the utility, of private pro.
perty. The proposed embankment near Mr. Rollinson's would
rise to an height of eighteen feet, and extend 500 or 600
yards. Now it was manifest that this of itself passing
through ornamental grounds would be highly detrimental
and would vastly deteriorate the value of the property. The
Learned Counsel concluded by saying that the line was useless and
uncalled for. The present Croydon line affbrded ample opportu-
nity for conveying property to the Brighton line. Such was the
opinion of the Board of Trade, and if at any future period the ex-
tension line became necessary there would be nothing to prevent
its formation. At present the interests of a company, which had
devoted a great deal of capital to the formation of a railway, and
the interests of several private individuals, were involved. Inves-
tigation and delay were absotutely necessary, and in accordance
with the recommendation of the Board of Trade, which was based
upon good sense and guided by strict impartiality, he cleded. upon
the Committee to declare the preamble of the Bill not pralov
Mr. John Rollinson, a gentleman residing at Tooting, said the
projected line would pass to the north of his premises. He
had a nursery there, two acres in extent, which was admirably
adapted for the growth of peaches and nectarines, both from soil
and climate, and upon which a great deal of money had been ex-
pended; In fact, he could not carry on his business without it,
He had lately purchased land there for 4501. an acre. There was
a most useful spring there, which the line would destroy. His bud-
ness was almost as extensive as any nurseryman in the neighbour-
hood of London. The nobility constantly visited him. The lino
would deteriorate his property to the value of two-thirds. The
railroad would pass directly through the property, and there was
some of the property which cost at the rate of 1,0001. per acre.
Cross-examined by Mr. Hat,---The grounds were visited by the
gentry of the West-end.
Mr. Groom, of Claphsm, corroborated the above testimony.
property-tax. Was well acquainted with the Con('
Mr. Henry Melyneux lives at Tooting. Is an assessor of the
people. Moot of its iphabitants ition of the
Tooting
were connected Nyith trade
In We C ty. The oilier Clase of ROW= were 1110banici. Did

not think It railway passing from Tooting to the west end of Lou-
don would be at all desirable. There were only two ceaches from
Tooting to the west end of leondon--one in the morning and one
in the evening; and he very seldom saw them well laden. Knew
Dr. Ford's property at Tooting, and thought the projected line, if
carried out, would be highly injurious to it.
Other evidence of a similar character was given as regards pri-
vat e property.

Mr. Cubitt, consulting engineer to the Croydon Railway Corn.
pang, stated, that in the begging of last year he recommended the
laying down of an additional line of rails along the Croydon line,
and arrangements were made with the Greenwich Railway Com-
pany to bring a single line of rails to the London-bridge station.
The object was to take the Brighton traffic along the Croydon line.
The line was to be constructed according to the atmospheric
principle. That line was now in course of construction.
and would be attended with very considerable expenditure. The
present line would then carry what was termed " the long traffic."
Did not think it was desirable that the Brighton traffic should be
brought to Hungerford-bridge, even by a shorter line of railway
than the projected one.
Mr. HILL then rose to reply. The Bill was opposed by two bodies,
the one a number of private gentlemen landowners, and the other
the Croydon Railway Company. With respect to the first, all were
satisfied by the offers of the promoters except Mr. Rollinson and
Dr. Lind. He was anxious to treat with respect private property ;
but the man should have a monument of gold erected to him who
should discover any means whereby great public works like this
could be carried out without operating against the
interests and wishes of private individuals. Gentlemen
talked as if there were no such word as compensa-
tion in the English language. There never was ally
railway passing so near a large town which less affected private
property than this, and the promoters were willing to make all the
compensation in their power to those landed proprietors whose land
would suffer by it. With respect to tho opposition of the Croydon
Railway, he disclaimed all wish and intention to damage the
interests of the shareholders. It was objected that the
arch by which the proposed line would cross it was not large
enough, but his clients were quite willing to remove all objections
of that nature, by making the arch as large as they could wish it.
The Croydon Company themselves admitted some years ago that
the London bridge station was not sufficient, for they agreed to
be shareholders with the Brighton and South-Eastern Coun-
ties Railway Company, in a new line of railway
from Croydon to the metropolis; It had been alleged by Mr.
Austin that the Brighton Company would lose 13,0001. a year by
the throwing off the Croydon branch. But the thing was too
absurd to be entertained for a moment. If the Brighton Company
slid not believe they would gain much, instead of losing anything,
they would be no parties to the projected scheme, which would cost
them P 20,000/. The Learned Counsel then read population
returns, showing that 40,000 people would be benefited by the
Wandsworth Extension. After some further observations, the
Learned Counsel concluded by calling on the Committee to declare
the preamble of the Bill proved.
The room was then cleared for deliberation, and after the lapse
of a few minutes, strangers were admitted, whereupon
TLe Climax/us (addressing Mr. Hill) said the Committee are
unanimously of opinion that the preamble of the Bill has not been

proved.
The Committee adjourned at five o'clock.

GROUP X.

LINCOLN AND CAMDRIDGE R,AXLWA.Y.

(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)

Mr. LEE—The London and York Company say they can supply
coals from the same places at a cheaper rate; we say they cannot,
for we came in competition with them, and we want to show we can
buy those coals much cheaper. The London and York have also
taken credit for an increase of 290,0001. per annum by coal traffic
alone ; but we say they can receive no such sum, for we will
afford greater facilities for transit.
The witness then proceeded to say that the distance he had
mentioned of 152 miles would cost 3s. 4d. per ton per mile for the
transit of coals, which would bring the price to 9s. Gd., or to
14s. Gd. to the merchant in London, exclusive of city dues, which
were Is. Id.; then there was 2s. 611. for delivery, and Ad. per ton
for the use of waggons, which would bring the price up to 19s. to
the public per ton, including all charges. The Wallsend
and Staley coal were near the coal-fields already
mentioned, and 168 miles from London ; the price in Lon-
don of these coals to the public, including all charges, would
be 20s. Id. per ton. If the Silkston and Peterborough line be
made, the distance of the town from the coal-fields would be 93
miles. The coals could be sold in that town at 1 Is. 10d., includ.
ing all charges. Stamford would be 81 miles by railway, and the
coal could be sold there at Ils. The Erewash Valley coal-fields
were very extensive, and equal to any demand ; they were situate
about nine miles from the Midland, near Derby. A Bill has
passed the House of Commons granting a line called the Erewash
Valley, which joined the Midland; the Erewash coal was as often
sold in London as the Durham coal ; the distance of the Erewash
from London was 131 miles, and that coal could be sold in Lon-
don at 18s. 3d., including all charges ; the same coal could be sold at
Stamford at 9s. 6d., and at Peterborough at 10s. 3d. ; the distance
of the first was 60 miles, and the latter 73 miles from the Erewash
Valley". field. Is quite certain that the London and York could
receive no such income as 290,000/. a year from coal traffic alone.
Mr. John Woodhouse, coal-viewer, was the next witness. His
depositions were unimportant, being merely corroborative of that of
Mr. Machon.

Mr. Irish deposed that he had been employed as a traffic taker
for the wool trade, and that a great quantity of wool was brought to
London from Yorkshire, Leicestershire, Lancashire, &c., and the
expense of the transit of which would be greatly diminished if this
line were made.

Mr. J. P. Carpenter gave evidence as to the amount of road
traffic by coach, whit:, bore out the testimony of Mr. Parks.
The CHAIRMAN hu'e stated that the Committee would sit until
five o'clock, so that if Mr. Elildyard should not be present, Mr.
Lee, or some other counsel should be prepared to go on, as the
Committee would not adjourn before that hour.
Mr. Lnu said he hoped to be able to close his case before that
hour.

Mr. Pinch, of Ipswich, was then called, but was not examined.
Mr. George Leather, C.E., deposed that he was well acquainted
with the course of the Witham and the proposed loup railway.
He deposed as to the height of the different bridges, and the extent
of space between the extremities of the arches, and the surface of
the water at the different heights of the tide, and of the water in
the canal above the different locks, in order to show the height
at which it was proposed to place the rails above the water surface.

Two other witnesses having been called, one of whom gave tes.
imony as to the population of certain districts,

Mr. HILDYARD said he was happy to announce that the case for
;be Cambridge and Lincoln scheme had closed.
The Committee then adjourned at half.past five.

COURT CIRCULAR.

Their Majesties the King and. Queen of the Belgians landed
at Woolwich yesterday afternon from Ostend, and having en-
tered one of the Queen's carriages and four, which was in readi-
ness at the Roval Dockyard, proceeded to town on a visit to
the Queen. I heir Mdjesties arrived at Buckingham Palace at
twenty-five minutes past six o'clock, attended by Madame
d'Hoogvorst (Dame d'honneur), and Monsieur A. D. Hanins
de Moerkerke, and also by Lord Rivers, Lord in Waiting to
'her Majesty, and Lord George Lennox, Lord in Waiting to
Prince Albert.

The Queen and Prince Albert, attended by the Maids of
Honour in Waiting, the Lord Steward, and the Groom in
Waiting, received their august visitors at the grand entrance
of the Palace.

His Excellency M. Van de Weyer, the Belgian Minister,
followed their Majesties to the Palace and paid his respects to
he King and Queen.

Her Majesty and Prince Albert took their usual early walk
yesterday in the royal gardens of Buckingham Palace.
His Royal Highness Prince Albert, attended by Mr. George
Edward Anson and Major-General Sir Edward Bowater,
visited St. Thomas's Hospital yesterday morning.
Their Royal Highnesses the Prince of Wales, Prince Alfred,
the Princess Royal, and the Princess Alice, were taken their
accustomed walks and rides in the royal gardens yesterday.
Their Royal Highnesses the Duke and Duchess of Cam-
bridge honoured Covent-garden Theatre with their presence
yesterday evening.
Count de St. Aulaire, the French Ambassador, transacted
business yesterday at the Foreign-office.

moLtioorn.d GARDNER was understood to withdftw his
Lord BROUGHAM said Lord Gardner, having at-
tended in his place by the order of the House, and
having stated that he had laboured under misapprehen-
sion, he saw no reason why the matter should proceed
further.—The subject then dropped.
REPORT OF THE COMMITTEE ON RAILWAY
BILLS.
Lord BROUGHAM read the report of the Commit-
tee appointed on the subject of the Railway Bills before
their Lordships. The report recommended that the
Railway Bills, which could not be completed this ses-
sion, should be marked by the Chairman of each Com-
mittee, and ba proceeded with next session from the
point where the investigation might terminate during
the present session. The Committee had not yet con-
cluded their labours, but they had thought it right to
make this report to their Lordships.
The Duke of WELLINGTON moved that the report
of the Committee be printed, and taken into considera-
tion at an early day, which was agreed to.
CONFERENCE WITH THE COMMONS.
The LORD CHANCELLOR informed the Mes-
sengers who brought up a Bill, that their Lordships had
appointed a conference with the Members of the House
of Commons, which would take place that evening.
G A ME-LAWS.
Lord WHARNCLIFFE laid a Bill on the table for
amending the Game-laws.
CRIMINAL LAW COMMISSION.
Lord BEAUMONT wished to take that opportunity
of asking the Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack
respecting the report of the Criminal Law Commis-
sioners. Their Lordships would probably remember
that after what took place last year upon the penal laws,
it was thought advisable to appoint a Commission to in-
vestigate the general state of the Criminal Law, so far as
related to the various sects of religionits. That Com-
mission had since prosecuted their inquiries with re-
markable perseverance and industry, and their report
was now lying upon their Lordships' table. The Com-
missioners made certain recommendations, amongst
which was, that there should be one general form of
oath and declaration substituted for the form now in use
in England, Ireland, and Scotland, which might be
taken or subscribed to alike by Protestants, Catholics,
Dissenters, or Jews. Now, he wished to ask the Neble
and Learned Lord the question of which he had given
notice—namely, whether he would be prepared, in the
present session, to lay on the table a Bill to carry out the
recommendation of the Commissioners?
The LORD CHANCELLOR said thmt he did no more
than justice to those who composed that commission,
when he said that they had discharged their duty with
industry, accuracy, and intelligence. In reply to the
question of the Noble Lord, he had to state that he had
given directions that a Bill should be framed upon their
report, and as soon as tha persons who had been en-
trusted to draw it up had it ready, he would lay it on the
table of their Lordships' House.
The Earl of ELLENBORO UGH thought it should be
the object of the Bill to enable all classes of her Majesty's
subjects to understand what were the laws under which
they were living.
The LORI) CHANCELLOR had no doubt but the
framers of the Bill would give satisfaction to his Lord-
ship, the Howe, and the country.
Lord BROUGHAM thought, as it would take a con-
siderable time to draw up the Bill, the further conside-
ration of it should be postponed till after the long va-
cation.
The LORD CHANCELLOR concurred with the
Noble Lord that it was a Bill of great extent and impor-
tance, and the more carefully it was prepared the
better. His object, however, was merely to state that
as soon as it would be ready he would lay it upon their
Lordships' table.
Lord MONTEAGLE thought that a Bill of such
great importance should be also extended to Ireland.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that in framing
the report, the Commissioners had had the assistance of
the Attorney-General of Ireland and the Lord Advocate
of Scotland. If the Noble Lord had any objection to
make when the Bill was brought forward, he would then
have an opportunity to state it.
Lord BEAUMONT thought that the Bill should be so
drawn up as to place all upon the same footing.
The LORD CHANCELLOR suggested that the
Noble Lord should draw up the Bill himself.
After a few words from the Bishop of LONDON, the
subject dropped,
ACCIDENT ON THE GREAT WESTERN
RAILWAY.
The Earl of DALHOUSIE, in redly to a eitreitioa of

The Ecclesiastical Commissioners for England had a meeting
yesterday afternoon, at the office in Whitehall-place. There
were present the Bishops of London, Chichester, and
Salisbury, the Right Hon. H. Hobhouse, the Right Hon. J.
Nicholl, and the Dean of Westminster.

GREAT CENTRAL SARDINIAN RAILWAY. This
project is likely to meet with the sucoess it appears to merit. The
Committee is not alone respectable but influential, and the Duke di
Lante Montefeltro, in having joined it as president, at once stamps
the undertaking as having tho sanction of the Sardinian Govern-
ment. The resources of the island of Sardinia are immense, and it
only requires the means of cheap and easy transit to the outports,
which this railway will effect, to restore the island to its former com-
mercial importance, while it cannot fail to yield a very large return
to those who invest in it. _ _

FATAL ACCIDENT TO MR. DE SALIS.—On Wednes-
day evening, as the Hon. Captain de Sails, of the Scots Fusilier
Guards, was riding in the Victoria-row, Pimlico, his horse sud-
denly started off, and stumbling, fell over him. He was picked up
in an insensible state, and expired yesterday evening' at 8 o'clock.

COVENT-GARDEN THEATRE.—The difficulties con-
cerning the production of Les Huguenots having been removed,
and the Lord Chamberlain having granted the necessary license,
that opera will be produced on Monday. The cast will include all
the principal singers—M. and Mme. Laborde, Mme. Julien, M.
Zelger, &c.
VAUXHALL GAurimis,—The aquatic ball, under
the patronage of the noblemen and gentlemen of the Thames Re-
gatta, will take place this evening (Friday) at Vauxhall, when the
prize wherry (the gift of the lessee), which was contended ibr on
Wednesday, will be presented to the winner in the gardens. Musard's
second grand bal masque is announced for Tuesday next, the Ist of
July, and the juvenile fete on the following evening (Wednesday),
when, in addition to other attractions, the children of the Royal
Military Asylum, Chelsea, with their full band, will 'visit the
gardens.
BRITISH ASSOCIATION FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF
SCIENCIL—CAMIIRIDGE, JUNE 26.—Last evening a general meeting
of the members was held in the Senate-house (Sir John Herschel
in the chair), to close the proceedings of the session. The chief
object of the meeting was to acknowledge the services of the officers
of the institution, and to vote thanks to the distinguished foreign
philosophers who did it the honour to join in its deliberations on
this occasion. The different gentlemen thus complimented re-
spectively returned thanks. The meeting broke up shortly after
eleven o'clock.

M. GREEN'S BALLOON.—This gentleman made
his 301st ascent on Wednesday from the grounds of Cremorne-house,
in the presence of upwards of 8,00 spectators, shortly after seven
o'clock in the evening ; he was accompanied by seven fellow-voyagers
in the regions of air, and cheered as he ascended into what has rom
long habit become his natural element. The ascent was a very mag-
nificent one, the balloon took a south-easterly direction, and passed
over a portion of the metropolis, making its eourse towards the Ken-
tish bank of the Thames. It, however, passed the river, and des-
cended in safety at Hornchurch, in Essex. .

A SORE SPELL OF WEATHER.—" Thomas, spell
weather." said a schoolmaster to one of his pupils. "
weather." " Wel, Thomas, you may sit down," said the
teacher ; " I think this is the worst spell of weather we have had
since Christmas—bad as the season has been."

GRAND REVIEW IN HYDE-PARR.—To-morrow a
brilliant review will take place in Hyde-park, before her Majesty,
Prince Albert, his Grace the Duke of Wellington, and a numerous
staff of military officers. The troops to be reviewed will consist of
four battalions of the Household Infantry, the Ist and 2d Regiments
of Life Guards, and the 4th Regiment of Light Dragoons, from
Hounslow, with six brigades of Horse Artillery, and light field pieces.
The Duke and Duchess of Buccleuch, it is said,
will give a splendid fete in the course of the ensuing month, previous
to the fashionable season closing. The Earl of Dalkeith, who has
been affected ky the measles, is sufficiently recovered as to be able
to come to town from Eton. The youthful Lord Charles Scott, who
has also been suffering from that troublesome complaint at Montagu
House, is now regaining his strength, and, with his brother, will
shortly repair to the sea-side for the advantage of a change of air.
SHOCKING ACCIDENT AT DRURY-LANE THEATRE.
—On Wednesday evening, immediately after the fall of the curtain
at the close of the opera of The Enchantress, and while Madame
Thillon was upon the stage, a quantity of the heavy machinery
immediately in her vicinity fell with a tremendous crash, knoclUng
down two of the scene-shifters of the names Of Kirby and Hathaway,
They were Immediately picked up, bleeding proftisely, and in an ap-
parently lifeless state. A medical gentleman, who was in the house,
promptly attended, and ordered them instantly to be conveyed to the
hospital. The injuries received by Hathaway were slight in com-
parison with those sustained by Kirby, of whom, we learn, it is feared,
there is little hope of recovery. Not the slightest blame attaches to
any one in the theatre.
BRITISH SCIENCE.—Some time since an English
barometer was forwarded to New York by Lieutenant-Colonel Sabine,
via Liverpool, for the purpose of comparing several barometers in the
United States of America with the standard of the Royal Society of
Great Britain. The instrument has arrived on its way back to com-
plete the comparison, by the American line of packet ship lirestmiq7
ster, and bears the name ...bf the Eitglisn maker:, and the Lards of
the Trdaeury Have directed Ito deliyirry to the 'toper authority duty
tree.

fp-F_ SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY EVENING, JUNE 27, 1845.

IMPERIAL PARMA-MEN-T.
HOUSE OF LORDS, Jane 2G.
Their Lordships assembled at the usual hour.
A great number of railway ails were brought up
from the House of Commons.
CORNWALL RAILWAY.
The Earl of ST. CEItMANS presented a petition
in favour of this railway.
NON-ATTENDANCE OF LORD GARDNER ON
THE GLASGOW-BRIDGE COMMITTEE.
The Duke of RICHMOND moved that the order of
their Lordships respecting the attendance• of Lord
Gardner to explain his reasons for not attending the
Committee on the Glasgow. bridge, of which be was a
member, be read.
The Clerk having read the order,
Lord GARDNER said his non-attendance on the
Committee did not arise from any disrespect to their
Lordships, and if he had erred, it was from ignorance
of the power which they possessed. When he re-
ceived the notice, he was not aware of the consequemes
which would result if he did not attend. He had also
his reasons for not attending—first, his ignorance of the
standing orders, and secondly, his objection, arising
from conscientious scruples, against serving on any rail-
way Committee.—(A laugh.) Their Lordships might
laugh, but such was his opinion. Some years
ago, before the public were so deeply interested in
railways as at the present moment, he became a share-
holder in many of the trunk lines, and although he was
not interested in the subject in question, he, nevertheless,
considered that ho was one of their Lordships who ought
to take no part in the railway schemes before them.
Another reason for his non-attendance was, that he
10, ked upon the order of the Noble Lord in the light
of an invitation, which he might either accept or refuse,
as suited his convenience. The Noble Lord was about
to read a notice of motion which be held in his hand,
when he was interrupted by
The Duke of RICHMOND, who said that before their
Lordships entered upon the consideration of anything
else it must first dispose of the question before the
House. He could not understand how the conscientious
scruples which the Noble Lord referred to as a reason
for not serving on railway Committees could be pleaded
by him as a pretext for absenting himself from the Com-
mittee to which he had been appointed. It was not a
railway at all. It was the Glasgow-bridge Committee.
There was no partiality hi the selection of any Noble
Lord by the Committee, whose province it was to appoint
the Members who are to serve upon the Select Commit-
tees. Quite the contrary, for the question was generally
asked them previously whether they would be willing to
serve upcn the Committer}. He thought that the Noble
Lord displayed greatignorance of what had been going on
in that House, when ho alluded to the Right Reverend
Prelates. He could state that they had been always
most ready and willing to attend any Committee to
which their Lordships might think proper to appoint
them, and he could see no reason whatever for the
insinuation thrown out against them by the Noble Lord. He
thought, therefore, that as their Lordships were exempted
from serving on juries, from serving as councillors,
and as High-Sheriffs, that it would not be adding to
their high character if they shirked any duty which
the business of the country might impose upon them.
The Earl of BESBOROUGH said that it was not
his order, or that of his Noble Friend, which the Noble
Lord (Lord Gardner) disobeyed, but the order of the
House. Upon the Noble Lord asking him whether his
attendance was compulsory, he replied that it was not ;
hut he did not, therefore, suppose that the Noble Lord
would refuse the duty on that account. He could only
say that the Noble Lord was put on the Committee be-
cause it was believed that he would be willing to serve
upon it.
The Earl of MALMESBURY thought that their
Lordships ought to be ready to serve one another upon
these occasions. He had served on one Committee al-
ready, and he would have no objection, as it had been
one of short dnration, to serve on another.
Lord BROUGHAM observed that all the Members of
their Lordships' House ought to be summoned to attend
on these Committees. No preference ought to be shown
to one more than to another, and if they did not attend
when properly summoned they ought to be punished.
Lord REDESDALE did not consider it would be
acting with fairness towards their brother Peers to call
upon those who were at a distance in the country to at-
tend the Committees, when there were so many Noble
Lords remaining in London. The duties which had
to be discharged by the members of the Committee par-
took less of the judicial character than of the juryman's,
and as he was satisfied that, from the connexion which
the Noble Lord—whose non-attendance at the Com-
mittee to which he had been summoned was now under
consideration—had with railway matters, his experience
would render him a very efficient member of a Railway
Committee.
The Marquis of CLANIIICARDE said that to compel
the attendance of Peers, residing both in and out of Lon-
don, on Committees on railways, would be to adopt a very
unusual course, for which there was no precedent, and
it would require great consideration before such a mea-
sure should be passed into a law.
Lord GARDNER said he would take the earliest
opportunity of attending in future any of their Lord-
ships' Committees which he might be summoned to
attend. He would, however, beg to propose the follow-
ing resolution:—" That my Lords, spiritual as well as
temporal, be summoned on the Committees of their Lord-
ships' House, beginning with the highest in the rank,
and so continuing down to the lowest."
The Duke of RICHMOND observed that he should
not be deterred, by the terms of the proposed motion,
from abiding by his original statement.
The Duke of WELLINGTON earnestly wished their
Lordships would discontinue the discussion. " Sufficient
for the day was the evil thereof." His opinion was that
all the Peers should be disposed to lend their aid in per-
forming 'their duties to their Loisiships' house and to
the public.
The Earl of ELLENBOROUTI was of opinion that as
the Noble Lord had expressed his willingness to attend
the house when required, in future, the subject should
be dropped.
The Earl of BESBOROUGH considered that the
Noble Lord (Lord Gardner) had laboured under some
misapprehension as to the power of the House, and had,
consequently, not attended the Committee.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said the Noble
Lord had given as full an explanation as they could
expect. When he was summoned on another Commit-
tee he must take what course he liked.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE thought that the
explanation should be entered on the journals of the
House.

the Earl of Kinnaird, said that tiv, accident which had
recently occurred on the Great Western Railway did
not occur in consequence of a rotten sleeper, but from
en experimental trial of a new set of rails. Tie would
desire the report to be printed and laid on their Lord-
ships' tgble immediately.
LANDLORD AND TENANTS COMPENSATION

BILL (IRELAND).
Lord STANLEY read the names of the Noble Lords
whom he proposed should constitute a Committee on
this Bill.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY begged that his
name might be omitted from the Committee, as he felt,
from his objection to the compulsory clauses, that he
could not fairly sit in judgment upon it in Committee.
A NOBLE LORD said if the Bill returned from the
Committee in its present form he should propose that
it be extended to England and Scotland.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE also objected to
be a member of the Committee; and begged that his
name might he omitted. He objected generally to the
nature of the Bill, which he considered would cause
ill-
blood between landlords and ti nants. It was con-
trary to the sense of the whole of the people of
Ireland. The Noble Earl (the Earl of Devon) bad not
road the evidence of any persons who were in favour of
this measure. One argument made use of by those en-
gaged in the agitation in Ireland was, that they were
forcing measures on that country which were not sought
for by the people, and that the sentiments of their peti-
tions, and of those conversant with their condition, were
overruled and outvoted by those wile were ignorant of
it. The prevalent opinion in Ireland vas essentially
against the measure. By being a Member of the Com-
mittee, he should be acting both ungenerously and im-
properly.
Lord STANLEY considered that the Noble Marquis
had acted in opposition to the rules of the House by
making a speech on the motion which he (Lord Stanley)
had made. Ile should not reply, after the opinion of the
House, to the Noble Lord's objections to the measure.
He had felt it his duty to propose that they should be
members of the Committee, with others, on account of
the large stake they had in the country to which the Bill
would apply. He was anxious that the measure should
receive impartial inquiry and consideration, and that
Noble Lords from both sides of the House should he
members of the Committee.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said that out of the 21
Peers whose names had been placed upon the Com-
mittee, 16 were supporters, and 5 opponent S, of the Bill.
The Marquis of NORMANDY said the state of his
health would prevent him from serving on the Com-
mittee; butlhe would gladly have sacrificed his personal
convenience, did he think that by his attendance the
matter could be satisfactorily adjusted. The Bill, how-
ever, appeared to him to be so highly objectionable in its
present form, that he trusted the Noble Lord the Secre-
tary for the Colonies would consent to abandon it for
the present session.

Earl RODEN said. nothing could be suggested in
Committee which could change his opinion upon the
Bill, and he therefore begged to be excused from attend-

,ng upon it.

Lord BROUGHAM said the reason given by the
Noble Earl was not sufficient to justify his non-attend-
ance on the Committee. Noble Lords went into the
Committee with a view of attempting to improve the
Bill, and it mattered not whether the members of the
Committee were opponents or supporters of the Bill. If
Noble Lords, after the Bill came oat of the Committee,
still thought it objectionable, they could oppose it on the
bringing up of the report or on the third reading.
The Earl of WICKLOW ngreed with the Noble and
Learned Lord that, with the exception of the case of the
Noble Marquis opposite, no good reason had been stated
by Noble Lords to justify their being excused from at-
tending on the Committee. The Noble Earl behind him
_ _

(the Earl of Liverpool) had he thought dealt unfairly
with his Noble Friend the Secretary for the Colonies, in
giving an incorrect analysis of the Committee appointed
by his Noble Friend.

The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said unless the
Noble and Learned Lord opposite told him that he was
compelled to serve on the Committee, he should cer-
tainly not consent to do so, and he begged to tell the
Noble and Learned Lord that he was one who would not
submit to his mode of dictating in that House.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL remarked that, out of
twenty one names of the Committee, there were only two
that appeared upon the protest against the measure
signed by the thirty-seven Peers connected with Ireland.
Instead of deserving credit for the impartiality the Noble
Lord displayed in selecting the Committee, he deserved
credit for the ingenuity he had evinced in packing it.
Lord STANLEY said the Noble Earl was certainly
not the person to complain of strong oppressions, seeing
that at first ho had charged him with having produced an
unfair and partial Committee, and now he talked of the
Committee being packed.—(Hear.) Now, although
it was certainly true that the majority of the
Peers who appeared upon the Committee had voted in
favour of the second reading of the Bill, yet nine, and
he believed ten, out of the one and twenty, had expressed
themselves adverse to the compulsory clauses, and only
eight had expressed themselves in favour of them, while
the last four members of the Committee had expressed
no opinions at all; and, upon his honour as a gentleman,
he had not the least idea of what they were.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE had no objection
to serve on the Committee, but as the majority of their
Lordships appeared to be against the compulsory clauses,
he thought it would be better to let the Bill stand over
till the next session.
The Earl of ST. GERMANS thought they ought not
to allow an impression to go abroad that the interests of
landlords were more attended to in that House than
those of the tenants.

The Earl of FORTESCUE begged to be excused
from attending as one of the Committee, on the ground
of the great personal inconvenience which it would give
him.

Tho Earl of RODEN would be sorry to refuse to at-
tena, though he did not agree with the principle of
the Bill.

After a few words from the Marquis of LON-
DONDERRY,

The Earl of DEVON honestly confessed that he did
not read the evidence, because he was unable to do so by
candlelight. He thought, however, that the Bill intro-
duced by the Noble Lord the Secretary of the Colonies,
would be the cheapest to the tenant, and the most effec-
tual to carry out the principles of the report.
A desultory conversation then ensued, in which Lord
Cbarleville, Lord Redesdale, Lord Lucan, the Duke of
Richmond, and Lord Roden joined.
The Select Committee was then agreed to, the name
of the Earl of Charleville being substituted for that of
the Marquis of Clanricarde, and the third reading was
appointed for Monday next.
LANDLORD AND TENANT BILL.
Lord PORTMAN moved the second reading of the
Landlord and Tenant Bill.

Lord BEAUAIONT objected to the Bill. He thought
that a written agreement was a sufficient guarantee for
the tenant. It was his usual custom, and he believed
that their Lordships would give such agreement at
present. And he saw therefore no reason why it should
be made compulsory to do so. Believing that any inter-
ference was uncalled for, and unnecessary, he would
move that the Bill be read a second time that day six
months.

The Duke of RICHMOND supported the Bill. He
thought that the tenant was entitled to receive compen-
sation for any outlay he might be put to. He thought
that the Bill was called for, as well from expediency as
from a sense of justice, and he contended that it would
facilitate the improvement of the country, and the
tenants, who were the practical farmers of the country.
He hoped, therefore, they would not throw out the
Bill on the second reading. Those alterations which
might be thought necessary might be made in Com-
mittee.
The Duke of CLEVELAND said he should support
the measure, as compensation should be secured to
tenants for improvements which they might make of a
permanent character on the land which was let to them. The
Bill was good in principle; and if it did not effect all that
was stated, it certainly would not lead to evil. He hoped
their Lordships would consent to the second reading.
Lord ASHBURTON opposed the Bill, on the ground
that in almost evey case where compensation was sought
by the tenant, a lawsuit would be the inevitable result.
The word " improvement " was so extremely vague, and
might apply to so many different things, that litigation
could not fail to ensue. Some definition ought to be
given in the Bill on this point, for the guidance of both
the landlord and the tenant, of the nature of the " im-
provements " for which they would be entitled to com-
pensation. If it was to be regulated by the "custom of
the country," no object would be gained by the Bill, as
they had such a law at present. Besides, it was a mea-
sure which it would not become that House to pass.
Lord WHARNCLIFFE was of opinion that a tenant
could attain a fair compensation for any improvements
which he might make at his own expense, at the present
moment. They would also be legislating in a case in
which no legislation was required, for landlords and
tenants perfectly understood each other.
The Duke of RICHMOND said, in explanation, that
in some parts of England the custom of remunerating a
tenant for " liming " did not exist.
Lord PORTMAN considered that arbitration would
avoid litigation instead of conducing to it, and that the
word " improvement" was not so vague as was ima-
gined, as the term was perfectly understood. It was for
the purpose of avoiding litigation, which was often ex-
pensive and unsatisfactory, that he had proposed that
disputes should be decided by the arbitration of com-
petent persons. He begged pardon for having tres-
passed so long upon their Lordships' time, but as he in-
tended to divide the House upon his motion, he felt called
upon to say thus much.
Their Lordships than divided, when there appeared—
For the amendment—Contents ll
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Majority for the amendment —4
Several measures lying on the table were then ad-
vanced a stage, and their Lordships adjourned.

ROUSE OF COMMONS, June 26.

The S;EaxER took the chtir shortly before Four o'clock.
Captain BERKELEY presented a petition from Gloucester
against any alteration in the South-Wales Railway. The
Gallant Member moved that the petition should be referred to
the Committee.—Agreed to.
CORK AND BANDON RAILWAY.

On the motion of Lord BERNARD, the Cork and Bandon
Railway Bill was read a third time and passed.
YORK AND NORTH MIDLAND RAILWAY.
The Lords' amendments to the York and North Mid-
land (Bridlington Branch) Railway were agreed to.
The Keyningham Drainage Bill was read a third time
and passed.
HULL AND SELBY RAILWAY.

The Lords' amendments to the Hull and Selby Rail.
way (Bridlington Branch) were agreed to.
The Lords' amendments to the Newcastle-upon-
Tyne Coal Turn Bill were agreed to.
WAKEFIELD, PONTEFRACT, AND GOOLE

RAILWAY.
The Wakefield, Pontefract, and Goole Railway Bill
was reported.

BRIGHTON, LEWES, AND HASTINGS
RAILWAY.

The Lords' amendments to the Brighton and Lewes, and
Hastings Railway (Keymer branch) Bill were agreed to.
The Westminster Improvement Bill was read a third
time and passed.
KENDAL AND WINDERMERE RAILWAY.
The Lords' amendments to the Ken Cal and Winder-
mere Railway Bill were agreed to.
LIVERPOOL AND BURY RAILWAY.
The Liverpool and Bury (Bolton, Wigan, and Liver-
pool, and Bury Extension) Railway Bill was read a
third time and passed.
The Lords' amendments to the West London and
Westmipster Cemetery Company Bill were agreed to.
BIRMINGHAM AND GLOUCESTER RAILWAY.
The Birmingham and Gloucester (Gloucester Exten-
sion, Stoke Branch, and Midland Junction) Railway Bill
was read a third time and passed.
The Sheffield Waterworks Bill was read a third time
and passed.
GREAT GRIMSBY AND SHEFFIELD RAILWAY.
The Lords' amendments to the Great Grimsby and
Sheffield Junction Railway Rill were agreed to.
MIDLAND RAILWAY.

The Lords' amendments to the Midland Railway
(Not tinghum to Lincoln) Bill were agreed to.
The Lords' amendments to the Midland Railway
(Syston to Petet borough) Bill were agreed to.
WEAR VALLEY RAILWAY.

The Wear Valley Railway Bill was report#V"
ELY AND lIUNTINGDON RAILWAY.
The Lords' amendments to the Ely and ITOntingdon
Railway Bill were agreed to.
Barrington's Estate Bill was read a third time and
passed, on the motion of Mr. ESTCOURT.
WEST LONDON RAILWAY.

The West London Railway Bill was read a third time
and passed.
The Forth and Clyde Navigation and Union Canal
Bill was reported.
Mr. CUItTEIS presented several petitions from Nor-
folk and Suffolk, praying for the repeal of the malt
duties.
The Lords' amendments to the Taunton Gas Bill were
agreed to.