The Sun.
London, England, 1820-11-03 00:00:00

..PROCEF,DE*.i'G-: OF TlitS • PNY.

the usual fannalities werc finish-
ed tN,:f ItAlf-past test.—Altbstuglt There were strong
reirrrt-i, of the Q,LEE:e. coming tio‘wn. this liay, it
WaS ObSellVegi that the Life Guards were ordered
off dizty 'Joan ufler the hanr of eleven. It was
re.:Thark.,..4 that ViStOgin CASTLFREAtiIt Wai on
titerri of the Throne., enga zed Fit conversation ,
at an'early hour.

THE ISILL.-11ESVIN ED DEBATE.)

soon. vs the Order of the Day ho.d been
read in the nitial form,
The Harr of GILOSceNOII took occasion to ad-
dresi the !rouse ; but it was tenposiibk tco Cot-
k } two-thiri3s of 115 s Loniship's pe,e3, it being-
in many parts quite inantlible to persons who
were .'the I. Ile conl4l .acsnre their
Lurdships,.. that no man roald have paid more at-
tention to thi proceedings,. daring the whole of
this. ingairy, than he hail done., and to the plead-
in 3:: also of Courusei on bofh and he had

yesterday listened most attentively to the clo-
q*ut addresses which had been delivered in
that House. The resalt of his mire' was, that.
he- most •firthly declared. befo-re G gad and the
Country, 'that he coaltl not perceive that the
cruelly aeCumulated Char es against her Majesty
had been 51tbsia fiat e d ; he therefore felt it his
solemn duty as be mast hereafter answer at the
'Bar 'of Heaven, where. this question would be
decided as good or evil, that he must say he
wduld give his vote against the second reading of
the Bill. He claimed 'their indulgence while he
stated his reasons for giving this, vote. Ho re-
gretted much the. indisposition of his Noble nod'
Learned" Friend (Firsisine), who had given so
powirful an opposition to the Bill yesterday, and
which must make his absence regretted
_by all
who heard his able speech. His principal fear
aiose frOm the prejudities which might be ex
.
cited by the arguments for ahe Bill, and under
-this disadvantage he felt as if he were debarred
from giving his • sentiments to the House,
in the apprehension that. he might injure
the , cause he 'meant to. serve. Before he
entered 'on particular points, he wished to recall
:their Lordships attention, to one or two of the
arguments in favoar of the Bill, which had been
used byttiva: Noble and Learned Lord on the
Woohack. If he understood. that Noble and
Learned-Lord, he said; that
_after holding: the.
balance hf justice' with an. even baud, he had
come to_ the conclusion 'he was compelled' to.
form. The Noble and Learned Lord was re-
minded by a Noble Earl near hint,, that it was a
frn eeat 'Pity that his Majesty's Ministers had.not
always held the balance of justice with an even..
hand, as' they would not in such an event have pre-
judged the question by, omitting the'
,Queen's
name in •the Liturl,y,-an action approved
by very few, and which had • produced, all
that disgust• which. operated on the public mind.
It was 'worthy of. consideration at present, iu
this stage of this ominous. Bill, whether, if the
Eil 1 should unfortunately pass that House, they
were certain of .the concurrence of the other
Reuse. He; did not mean in saying this to advise
their Lordships to concede to the inthience.
external force, as it would loWer them in the es-

timation of. the Country to sUppose that they
acted from a fear of the house o` f Coto-
tnons. But this question bad already been
under the consideration of the other House,
where it was declared to be derogatory to
the dignity of the Crown, and injurious
to the best interests of the Country: It
might then not• be unworthy of their Lordships
to think how far it might be eligible to stop. It
should be recollected, that when the Green Rag
found its way to the other House, it was not
• entertained there, but absolutely 'shoved off .tlie
Table. He would contend, that it was impos-
sible for their Lordships noteto know the public
• feeling on this subjk,ct ; and-they, therefore, ought
to consider how far the Natikutal safety, and their
Lordships honour might be affected by passing
this Bill, if the other /louse sheaid rejectit: Nat
to giveundue weight to such a -result as this, their
Lordships would be mortified in their feelings,
and lowered lit public estimation. He therefore
eatreated them to reconsider their course.. It
was both an -advantage and disadvantage that
this trial had been so much before the world, and
,
iliseetssed not only ',here, but .even in all Etirope,
I and that the al Arge, in general werede.ened‘to he
1
false and grootolless„ though it was possible,whiCh
he hoped notithat the House might thiok different-
ly. The Noble and 'Learned Lord had said, what
he hoped would 'never be forgotten by the Iloa:se,
that i-fany doubt existed in their Lordships' minds,
her Majesty ou;ht to have the full benefit of thitt
doubt.. While commenting on the arguments that
had yesterday, been used by that, Learned Lord
(itedesdale) on the cross-bench, he should en-
deavour to thrOw aside all extraneous. poiiits, and
}hereby to N up much less of . their Lord-,
" ships' time than he otherwise must have done.
'Before tioiug this, he would say somet ing re-
specting the making of no tAteration iatlW'Bill,
for it must be remembered that if alterations
were now made, the Bill must, according to the
admission of the Noble Lord of the Woolsack,
be not snore penal, but on the century As penalties.
should be mitigated. He was free to: declare
- then that .in its present shape, it was quite
impossible for the Bill to pass, and if •it passed.
with alterations, it was its impossible for any
Lord to vote for it. Hopeful as he was,
that before the second reading,some alterations
wisuld be made in the Bill, \yet he was afraid
than such alterations would not make it more
palateable. Let them look.. at the extraordinary"
situation in which the Bill placed both them and
the Queen, who was not charged with treason or
murder, or any other crime but adultery, which,
according to some doctrines,. was no crime at all.
It all rested on this point, and this was the whole
charge. If delivered, it would not be7as regard-
ed the King, for she had been guilty not of adul-
tery, but fornication. How did it happen she
wa,. prosecuted atali ? She was prosecuted how,
ever, not as the King's Consort, but as the
wife of the Country. It was the State that prose-
cuted in this case, and certainly not the King,
for his Majesty was nowhere to be traced
out, though his Lords and Commons were
imploring him to divorce his Queen.—He came
'now to the consideration of the arguments of the
Noble and Learned Lords (Eldon and Lauder-
dale) as to the credit to be attached to some por-
tion of the evidence in favour of the Bill, and
though they did not agree as to the extent of the
discredit to be• thrown on the testimony of Ma- •
jocci and Sacchi, yet they agreed in general; and
• the Learned Lord (Eldon) had declared he would
not allow such evidence as• was not perfectly
clear and satisfactory to operate on his mind.
Hence that Noble •and Learned" Lord attached
his remarks _ to that part of the evidence
which he considered clear, and particularly
as to the polacca scenes. However the No-
ble Earl (Lauderdale) had gone further
than the Noble and Learned Lord, and endea-
voured• to place the testimony of these witnesses
in a fairer point of view.. Noble and Learned
Lords had dwelt especially on the elevation. of
Bergami by the Queen, what transpired at the
inn at Carlsrhue, and on board the polacca. He
referred to the villa, Barona, which was said .to
Ahave Been put-Chased by .the Queen for Bergami,
but it 'appeared to him from the evidence
that at the. time of the purchase it was, aot cer-
tain whether Bergami would reside there or not;
but even iE it was, it was of-no consequence, as the
Barona was nothing more than a mere farm. He
defended her Majesty's attachment to Bergami, on
account of his fidelity to her, I is merits and ser-
vices ; and he observed, that if their Lord-
ships would abstract the notion of adultery from
the present case, there was nothing strange
in the elevation of. that man. As to his wife's
net residing. with the Queen, he appealed to Noble
Lords how common it was for themselves to have
domestic servants whose wives did not reside
in their houses.' Bergami's wife was pro-
vided for-from the property of her husband,
which was all the. provision she needed. He
ridiculed the tent scene on board the polacca,
and contended that the only proof of Bergami's
sleeping there, was
,the circumstance of liownam-
finding the hatchway open one night when
he went. up :the ladder to the deck.—(Left
speaking.)
_ ____

[Weobserved that Lord EUSKINE, though he
did not answer to his call, had, entered the
House.]

We hive bad no arrival of Paris Papers this

moraing,

.coew, York Papers,- to the 11th ult. arrived

this morning :

FILOII S I: Tit AM EX1C.1..--7-The ship Beaver,
fiocu Guyaquil, Callao, and Rio Janeiro, arrived this morn-.
Lug; she brings the follownrg intelligvnee the Last ar-
rivals at Rio de Janeiro frinn littenos Ayres, all Walt in COl7-

tiisinn; the citizens were in arms, defending theni4elves
agailist .It.trsAn, who was without the town with a !Indy of
desperkdoei, and threatened destruction to the,ylace if lie
mitered it ; it W4S rrpoited, however, tivit tie was worsted.

Flow fire accounts were up to the t gth of Juste. at
'chief; time the Expeslition for Vero was ill great forwardness;
it WAY to Cxll2tiSt 019 vessels of win, 40 transports, and ohntit
aOOO tt.(l;s.,' tuber the cumwaud Of Sr. ILAUTIN. 'The Tyne
British sloop of war sailed trout Cainjo the tit of done, with
f3,500,000401iar5, Ip:lotiging to Spanish 111erchants; site landed
a pit of the trea.ttles at Rio Janeiro, and sailed from theoce
to England the i.tth of August. •
Accounts (tont Savannah state, that the skittles.; three for
the last month ftas amounted almost to a plague, and this
City hos been almost deserted. The number of deaths for
thr last days has been frOta 10 to ifl per day. The deaths
amongst the whites, from the Ist to the 22d inclusive, have
beets t,4S,

SPA-NMI MAT:.—Captain WATKINS, from Coracoa, statei,
that tit was compelled to leave Sata Ma, and with di
coity escaped the Patrfots, wit() „wt. re till the CVO of tatiog it.

We have noticed, in another part of our Paper,
a rumour that FIEn MALE TY elMiiitei seeing the Prince of
SAXE Cusou tee when let called lately at Brandenhurglr
House. Hen :NW ESTV's conduct, in this respect, tin eleobts
resulted from those considerations Which must octer to erery
sine who reflects On the eir'com ,tance. It cotillion( but appear
singular to flea MAJESTY, that the Prince of SAxa CoBURG,
who, from the utometit of Hue MA.resTY's return to Eng-
Nutt to tho period of his ottexpecte4 visit to Brandenburgli-
[louse, had studiously avoided pa:, irtg Hitt MAJESTY the must
distant mad: of respect, or making tier theselightest offer of
assistattce iu meeting the teravyt'hargeipreferred against her,
sheitild sieddeelly, a,ki before the decision of the Legislature
upon those Charges, assume a differeot Cuuduet and we
should not be surprised if I-latt.M.A.(EsTY attributed the change
to other feelings tend motives than those which alight be
. ,
supposed to result (tutua conviction of her iunocetter, and of
her labouring under unjust aspersions. No one, we are con-
vinced, would (lave blamed the Illustrious Persemage alluded
to, if tot had waited upon 1-lEx MAJesiTy itutuediately after
her arrival in Ettglaud, and paid her those dutiful and
respectful attentions, to which he might have consider-
ed her entitled, as his anther-in-Law, and which, we ima-
gined, were only withheld flout a feeling of delicacy, on
his pact, tuwat his Royal Relatifes, and a sense of the pro-
pi iety of refraining from any t biog. which might be construed
iota "an expression of his sentiments on the merits of the case,
until they had been fully investigated and decided Upon in
Pat lianeeset. But though, we are convinced, no one would
have blamed the Illusteious Personage, if such had been his
conduct, yet we freely confess we thick it was wore dignified
and correct to conform to that detotnuour which the great body
of the Peerage observed towards Has M •JESTY ; and we are
at a loss to conceive what motives could induce the Prince of
Smelt Collusion to deviate (rotas it at this critical period, and
nut only to wake a proffer of his own attentions, but, if we
are correctly informed, also to require his Illustrious Sister,
the Duchess of KENT, to consent to receive flue MAJEsTY
et Claremont. There is something so mysterious iit so sudden
dud great a change, and something so like feelings resulting
from personal dissatisfaction and pique, that we can scarcely
believe all that tumour has attributed to his Royal Highness
on this occasion. We never can believe that the Priuce of
SAXE COBURG has forgot whose baud raised hint to his pre-
tient elevated rank iu this Country, and to the etijoymetit of
his splendid establishments, or that.he would allow any per-
total considerations to influence his conduct. Neither cats we
suppose that any belie of a fleeting popularity, arising from
a sacrifice of principle and propriety to the opinion of the
deluded multitude, could have oblitetated the recollection at
the dettitoinatiou which the Prince of SAXE CoRURG is Un-
deritotod to have suede when he first because connected with
this Country—that he would neither lend himself to the one
party or the other, but observe the strictest forbearance on
every subject connected with political discussion.

Yesterday Count MUNiTER had an audience of
his MA...JEST y, at his Palace in Pall-mall.
The Duke of iroaltr and a numerous party
dined yesterday with the Duke and Duchess of
CLARENCE.

The Duke,and Duchess of GLOUCESTER,II4d
a numerous, dinner party, yesterday.
On Tuesday last the lion. Mr. STANLEY left
town for the Continent.

WA RWlClinilllE ELECTION.— First Day's Poll
--LAwLliv, 187—SPooNER, 58.
Mn. EMBLE.—The Pnblic, we. are sure, will
hear with pleasure that this Gentleman. has arrived
in town apparently in excellent health; and heartily
must they wish that he would resume that pro-
fession of which he was so great an ornament, by
the performance of Roman and other parts
,suited
to his time a life, and which he is so well quali-
fied to sustain with critical precision and cha-
racteristic energy.