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one, and if Government persisted in imposing it he
should divide the House.

Mr. PARKER said the tax of 151. would produce so
little to the revenue that it was not worth the Govern-
ment's while to retain it.

Mr. RICE would be quite ready to agree to the pre-
sent proposition of the Government, if the Chancellor of
the Exchequer would promise that in the Committee he
would give the information of which he had spoken.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
he proposed to give all the information in his power.
In reply to an observation from Mr. GISBORNE,
Sir R. PEEL said it had been proposed to reduce the
duty to 7/. 10s. It appeared that this reduction would
have too great an effect in reducing the amount of the
productiveness of the tax, but that 101. would increase
it above the amount to be derived from 15/.

Mr. HUME asked, would the Right Hon. Baronet
agree to 101. now ?—(A laugh.)
Sir R. PEEL said he stood there not for the interest
of any party but the public, and if it were shown that
10L would produce more than 15L, he would be prepared
to take that into consideration.

Mr. WARBURTON wished the question were settled,
as a deal of property was now locked up, and kept from
sale by the delay of the measure.
Mr. HAWES was of opinion. that 101. would produce
more to the revenue than 151.

Mr. HUME—And 5Z more than either.—(A laugh.)
Sir R. PEEL said that he would not now state what
the amount should ultimately be fixed at. Inquiries
were in progress, and he would at a future stage be able
to state to the House the result.

Mr. HUME said it was quite clear that the Govern-
ment had proposed the increase to 154 without any in-
formation whatever. He really hoped the Right Hon.
Baronet would now consent to fix the amount of the
duty at 71. 10s.—(A laugh.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,
that the Hon. Gentleman was bidding against himself.
—(A laugh.) The Hon. Gentleman first prop. sed
71. 10s., and then he suggested 51., and npw he went
back to the old offer.—(A laugh.) He (the Chancellor
of the Exchequer) would consider the question, and
would lay before the House all the information he could
obtain.
Mr. WILLIAMS thought that 101. would be a rea-
sonable medium, and hoped the Government would as-
sent to it.

Lord WOUSLEY said that if the Committee divided
he would vote for 101. But in the present imperfect
state of their information, it would be better not to
divide in the present stage. _ .

Mr. PLUDitPTRE thought in the conflicting offers,
Government might very well knock down the tax at, 101.

Mr. BROTHERTO'N thought that, as they were
working in the absence of all informa.tion, and as the
measure was one of experiment, 101. would be a fair com-
promise.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was not
prepared to give the House information either as to the
number of auctioneers altogether, or as to the number
of those who paid the higher duty.
After a desultory conversation, which was much inter.
rupted by laughter and cries of "Divide," strangers were
ordered to withdraw. As we were leaving the gallery,
we understood

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER to say
that he had not yet had an offer of ten guineas.
Mr. lIUME—Oh, but guineas are not a legal tender.
Upon our return to the gallery we found that no
division had taken place, the original motion having
been withdrawn.

The House then resumed, and the Chairman reported
progress.
CUSTOMS DUTIES (GLASS).
The House then went into Committee on the Customs'
duties, and
Mr. SPOONER moved that a alteration should
take place in the time when the protecting duty on glass
should cease. It was proposed that they should termi-
nate immediately, but his proposition was, that that
operation should not take place until the sth of April,
1846. He thought it unfair that the glass manufac-
turers should be compelled to meet the competition from
foreign glass manufacturers when they were not preplred
to do so. Although he believed the glass manufacturers
of this country need not fear anything from competition,
ultimately, still they would be seriously injured by being
called upon to compete with foreign manufacturers
immediately. In the case of sheet glass, nhich was
a most important article, mannfacturcrs in this
country were obliged to employ French manufacturers,
because the manufacturers here, in consequence of the
duty, could not affbrd to make experiments. The con-
sequence was, the English manufacturers were under
contracts to employ parties for some time to manufacture
that article. The immediate removal
_of the protective
duties in that rospect would cause them great loss.
There could be no doubt that the Right Hon. Gentle•
man had given a great boon to the glass manufacturers
in this country by taking off the duty, but that boon
would be thrown away by taking off immediately the
protective duty. He hoped his Right Hon. Friend the
Chancellor of the Exchequer would consider the subject.
Ho moved that the line be altered to " On and after the
sth of April, 1846."
Lord ING ESTRE had been requested by his consti-
tuency to make a similar request, and he hoped the
Right Hon. Gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer
would consent to extend the time.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was not
quite certain whether the effect of the Hen. Gentleman's
proposition was tot to augment the duty tke House had
already agreed to, because, if the Hun. Gentleman's,
amendment were agreed to, it would continue the duties
for a period of twelve months. But, independently of this,
the motion was inexpedient in ether respects. The duty to
the extent of one halfpenny per lb. had been retained on
glass imported from Belgium, whose manufacturers were
formidable competitors with the British, and he had al-
ways understood till that night that this course was
likely to give satisfaction to the trade generally.
The amendment was negatived without a division.
The remaining clauses were then agreed to and the
House resumed.

The Chairman then reported progress, and the report
was ordered to be brought up to-morrow.
SUPPLY.
The order of the day was then put for the House
going into a Committee of Supply to vote the navy
estimates. _ . _

Mr. HUME protested that it was not fair at that late
hour to go into a Committee of Supply.
Dr. BOWRING intimated that several Hon. Members
had left the House on the understanding that th 4 se esti-
mates were not to be brought forward that night.
Mr. HOPE thought the House could have uo objec-
tion:, even at that late hour, to vote the estimate for
victuals.

Sir ROBERT PEEL, however, seeing it was the wish
of the House not to proceed, consented to the postpone-
ment of the Committee. _

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER ap-
pointed Wednesday for going: into Committee.
Captain PECHELL could hardly believe it was the in.
tention of the Right Hon. Gentleman to take the Navy
Estimates on Wednesday evening.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had no
objection to do so, if the Hon. and Gallant Member
wished it.

Captain PECHELL bad held a seat in the House for
nearly ten years, during which they had never taken
the navy estimates on a Wednesday ; and he had no
wish to depart from this rule now.
MUSEUMS BILL.

The Howe then went into a Committee on the Public
Museums Bill. It went through Committee, and was
ordered to be reported to-morrow.
GLASS BILL.

The Glass Excise Duties' Bill also went through
Committee, and was ordered to be reported tomorrow.
The report of Supply was received and agreed to.
The Mutiny Bill and the Marine Mutiny Bill were
read a second time.
INDIA EXPORT DUTIES.

Mr. HUMP, wished to know if he was at liberty to
ask the Noble lord opposite (Lord Jocelyn) if he could
place before the House a copy of the draft of the Act
imposing import duties on goods sent to India.
Lord JOCELYN said he had no objection to produce
the draft Act. As to the Governor-General of India he
(Lord Jocelyn) could only say he acted in perfect ac-
cordance with the directions of the Board of Controul.

Air. M. GIBSON hoped the Government would re-
consider this subject before they had finally decided on
the India Import Duties.
The other orders of the day were then disposed of,
and the House adjourned at TA elve o'Clock.

LAW INTELLIGENCE.
HOUSE OF LORDS, April 7.
ROBERT ALLEN (A PAUPER) v. M`PIIERSON, TOMKIYS, AND

THOMAS ALLEN,

In this case, which had not concluded when we went to
press yesterday, the further arguments were postponed to
Monday next.