The Sun.
London, England, 1818-04-14 00:00:00

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PARLIAMENTARY CONVERSATION.

The following is an account of a Conversation
which is said to have pissed in the House of Com-
rnons last night, after the Gallery was cleared for a
Division, and during the interval before the Divi-
sion actually took place. It appears in The
Morning Chronicle of this day, and must, of course,
lie been communicated to that Payer by some
Member, or Members, who are of the same poli-
tical pt iodides which that rape: is always advocat-
ittg. Hence, though we deem it our duty to insert
it for the information of our Readers, yet they

will doubtless view it with cautions distrust, as
tinged by the colouring of party and political

!Wiley()!cure :--

The lion. Mr So:weirs COCKS expressed his
extreme anxiety to explain the reason why he did
not vote for the lioikouraWe Member's
Brougham) Amendments. Viewing it as pledg-
ing the [louse in the principle of ecomony, he did
not object to it on that ground. On the contra'
when the proposed allowatice came to be dis-
cuSsed, he should spew by his vote that he was
us warm a friend to the pi inciple as any man ;
but lie was averse to depatting trout the usual
mode of or.,yeetiinv, in inch Addrssses, which
might be liable to tnis-coiisteuelion.
" Mr. linouGnim said he was desirous of re-
moving the false impression under which the lion.
Gent. appeared to lab•;or when he thought that
it signified nothing to the street ssful opposi ion
of the proposed measure, whether the vote was
given in this or in a future singe. lie (Mr. 11.)
pressed i;is Amendment for the vernmrpose of
iletetriog Ministers, in the eatliest possible stage,
from going on with such a measure ; and he was
confident that the Amendment, if carried, would
Lave the most salutary consequences, as well to.
interes,s of the Coun•ry as to the stability of
the Government, by putting an end at once to a
proposition fraught with the very worst conse-
quences to both.
Mr. Lru KICK could not avoid declaring the
course which he felt himself bound to adopt
Pisapproving of the proposition made at
the Mecing at Lord Liverpool's, lie should de-
cidedly oppose it ; and, though be wished the
Amendment hail not been moved, still lie felt lie
Lad no choice ; bn. must give it also his e'opport
in the terms in which it was couched.
Mr. PLUNKETT wished that his Hon. Friend
would consent to withdraw the Amendment, lie
ntirely concurred in opinion with him, and wl-en
the question was br-night forward, he should stre-
imously suppprr lila., to the utmost of his power.
lint he was apprehensive that it might wear an
appearance vety foreign to his lion. Friend's in-
tentions, if the liOnse departed from the prece-
dents of former Addreses, by referring to the
topic of economy, not to he found in the Iles.-age,
and thereby seeming to insinuate that the Crown
bail improperly omitted that important considera-
tion. On the merits of the question he heartily
agrer,l his Horn. Friend.
" Sir .1 NEWrOiZT expressed hi, ree,ret at be-
ing obliged to differ so widely from his Right
Honourable Friend (Mr. Plunkett) in his-view of
the Amendment, which he regarded as absolutely
necessary, after what hal passed nit bOth
It. was a great mistake in his Right llonontable
Friend to suppose that the Amendment could re-
fer to any thing but the conduct of Ministers
The Message was their act, and if the omission
was censured by the Amendment, the censure fell
neon the constitutional advisers of the Crown
alone.

" Lord LASCELLFS was one of those present at
the Meeting at Lord Livet pool's, and he there
felt that he could not agree to the proposition of
Ministers. lie was prepared to oppose it by his
vote when it came forward ; but he-declined snp-
porting the Amendment, or voting in .the present

stage.
• " Sir C. MoNcK strongly supported the Amend-
ment, (lid Mt. CALCRAFT and Mr. TIERNEY,
.upon the ground of Loid Castlereagh's refusal to
inform the House what was intended, and the
fact which had come out of so many Members
that mornitp4 having learnt what the measure was,
and immediately' declared that they could not
agree to it.
" Mr. LITTr,FTON (.9LATordshire) said, he'
should not easily be suspected of opposing Go-
vernment, with whom he so generally acted. Brit
he had been one of the Meeting at Lord Liver-
pool's, and had foand a great many others, like
himself, friends to the measnres of Adtoinistra-
• lion, but who could not agree to the proposition
made by Loid Liverpool. flowerer he shotild
reserveltimselt for the after stage of the question.
" Mr. ABEEtcR.,MBY considered that they who
opposed the Amendment
_quite mistook the roes-
- lion, the duty of the Manse was to act as an in-
termediate body between the People ..and the
Crown, .attending to the in'erests of both. His
Right Honourable Friend (Mr. Plunkett) could
not surely so far forget its functions, and indeed
its whole forms of proceedin, as to regard any
thing which it did relative to a Message or Ad-
dress, as applicable to the executive branch of
the. Government, or to any persons other titan
the Ministers of the Crown. After the avowals
of opinion on all sides respecting the expected
proposition, it would be a deception not to add
the declaration coni.tined in the Amendment.
" Mr. C. W. ‘VYNNE wished the Amendment
to be withdrawn., for fear of impeding the future
. opposition to the proposed vote—in which opposi-
tion he should certainly concur ;—but the Amend-
ment he thought contrary to the usual forms of
their proceedings.
" Mr. W. COORTENAY deemed it necessary to
declare at once in the earliest stage, his opposi-
tion to the measure. He should vote for. the
Amendment with this view—he approved of it be-
cause it went to declare the opinion of the House,
and to prevent the measure, deprecated on almost
all hands, from being proposed. It had his un-
qualified assent.
" Sir T. AcLAND was against the Amendment,
though he strougly supported the principle of it,