The Sun.
London, England, 1820-11-04 00:00:00

PROCEED.INGS OF Tins DAY.

The. usual formalities having this day been
gone through, the Loan CHANCELLOR stated,
that he had received a letter from the Marquess
of Hertford, who was still unable to attend -the
House, and therefore wished. to be excused.
. Lord IiOLLAND wished to say.a...word or two
as to the situation in which they were placed as
to the question before them. He. trusted that
their Lordships would not part this day without
coming to a vote on the question, anti he thought
it would be desirable to prolong the debate be-
yond four o'clock.—(Hear, hear!),
The Earl of LAUDERDALE hoped, - notwith-
standing . what had fallen from the Noble
Baron, that their. LordshipS would adhere to the
practice of ;not sitting beyond four o'clock. In
common cases, this practice of adjourning from
day to day at a-given hour would be'a great in-
convenience to Noble Lords, and a hindrance to
the business of the .House ; but in so solemn a
proceeding as the present it would be disgrace-
ful to prevent any Noble:l49rd from speaking his
sentiments by shortening the time, and it would
in fact be bringing the House into great preju-
dice with the Country.
Lord HOLLAND explained.
Lord ERSKINE hoped that their Lordships
would indulge him with a hearing this day, as he
would. not take up more than half an hour of,
their Lordships' time.

RESUMED DEBATE.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL stated, that he had
now to allude to those considerations which he
thought induced the inference of a criminal in-
tercourse,' and also to point their Lordships'
attention to other parts of the case,- in illus-
tration of that inference, when he closed his
remarks of yesterday. He conceived there were
two momentous circumstances established, and
beyond all doubt, if conviction was ever to be
drawn from circumstanta I evidence in any case,
;lamely, thara criminal intercourse bad taken place
between the parties, while Bergami was still a
Courier to her Royal Highness. That inter-
course he was satisfied' was at least incipent
at that period, bat whether the act was com-
pleted, ;he was not at the mouent prepared to
say, though if the House believed the evidence of
Majoeci and Dumont, it actually was. He would
go furtlwr and say, that taking all the circum-
Sta pcea which took place when her Majesty was
at Angosttirain August 1816, he would under-

take to say there would be found, during
that event, such a mass of evidence, as al-
most
,confirmed the proof of adultery.—
There had been, evidence given in the Eccle-
siastical Courts less strong and predominating-
but even that evidence was received there.,
What he was now prepared to maintain was, that
there was sufficient testimony for a moral convic-
tion of the commission of adultery before the
arrival of her Majesty at Angostura. Ile should,
therefore, now re-assume his remarks at that
point ; but before he came to what happened at
Catania, he wished to say a few words on the
subject of the Clorhide. frigate, and the conduct of
Capt. Briggs. This, my Lords, was not very ma-
terial, yet the refusal of Capt. Briggs to alloW
Bergami to sit at table with him, must be consi-
dered as an intimation to her Majesty M what
that officer thought. It was most extraordinary
that her Majesty did not, instead of pocketing the
affront, send home immediately a remonstrance
to the- Government here, that a Naval Offi-
cer in his Majesty's service had refused to receive
her own Chamberlain to dine with her on board
the frigate he commanded. But this,my Lords, he
mentioned as an intimation or hint given to her
Royal Highness as to whether all was pure or
correct, or decent, in her reported intercourse
with Bergami ; and must it not have brought
back to the recollection of her Royal Highness's
Mind what every man, who wished to be thotight
a respectable and honourable man, then thought
on the subject, and call upon her Royal High-
ness to conduct herself in a different manner with
respect to Bergami ? He now said he came to the
.case at Catania, and he was now aware that this
matter .stands solely on the evidence- of Du-
mont. Their Lordships would remember that
there were only three persons present who
were able to testify to the facts, and .these
were Dumont, Brunn, and Marlette. How
stands the case here? Dumont is produced at
their Lordships' Bar, but Bruno and Mariette
are
.not. Ile hoped that this. circumstance will
not be suffered to escape from their Lordships'
minds. Dumont, such as her testimony was,
has proved the adultery at Naples'; she has
proved it also at Genoa ; and, she has
proved it in - the• house .of General Pino; but
their Lordships would observe, that the tes-
timony of Dumont is damaged, so much so,
that he freely owned he was ready to be
guided by this consideration in deciding the
case. In the case of Catania, their Lordships
would observe, that this circumstance ought to
be borne in mind, that whatev4r-may be the de-
merits of the testimony both of Dumont and Ma-
jocci, it was easy to have contradicted it ; and,
therefore, as it now remains still uncontradicted,
it is not, in my judgment, to be rejected. The
circumstances that had been stated in regard to
the 'intercourse of the Princess and Bergami at
Catania, plainly demonstrated that this part of
the testimony could not be au in'ention. • 'Du-
mont had distinctly sworn, that when Ber-
gami was indisposed, he was brought across.
the court into the house, on which the
Countess 0 :di gave up .her room, aril Bergami
was put into helanparttnent ; soon after, in the
night, Dumont heard the child Victorine crying,
and the Countess of Oldi was also heard trying
to quiet the who usually slept in the Prin-
cess's bed. lie observed to their Lordships what
inference could be drawn from these circum-
stances but that the. Princess was not sleep-
ing with the child ? But this
_was not all.
Dumont, the very next morning, saw the Princess
in the act of passing through the room where she
slept, with her pillows under her arm, proceed-
ing from the apartment of
..the Countess of Oldi,
into which Bergami' had been removed.--
'Unquestionably their. Lordships would see
that this ..was a strong inference of complete
adultery, which wo.tild admit of no refutation.
Let it be observed that these-circumstances, like
many others, could have.been contradicted at their
Lordships' Bar. The Countess of Oldi was in
London time enough to have contradicted it, but
she was .not called, and until the Countess of
Oldi . be called to contradict this story, he
affirmed to their Lordships that the fact
of adultery had in. this case been clearly
proved. He now came to the most material, part
of the case, he meant the polacca, where the evi-
dence was clear,. and where the not calling of
Schiavani, Camera, and others, .was worthy
of remark. • Even on the voyage homewards,
Bergami's bed was brought into the dining-room ;
and-it was a singular fact, that whenever these
accommodations were, they were made for nobody
tut ,Bergami. it might be supposed that when
there were Naval Officers at. hand, her Majesty
would -have preferred them to be at hand, on
account of giving her information respecting-.thee
weather:and the rave
stee of the ship ; but no, it
was always Bergami. It was proved, that a
A.,um, that he slept under the :tent with the Prin.

cess, and on the deck of the polaeca he slept
under. her Royal Highness's tent for 30 _nights.
There was not the slightest necessity for this,
to which he, therefore, wished their Lordships to
fix their attention. it was asserted that there
was no mystery in this, but if their Lordships had
attedned to what had passed at the bar, bet Ween
the Queen's Counsel and witnesses, they would
find that there was much mystery in it.—
Mr. Brougham, in the able speech with which
he opened her Majesty's defence, had never once
mentioned this fact; Mr. Williams, who followed
him, half mentioned ; and Mr. Denman, in his
summing up, endeavoured to throw dOubt
upon it, but did not attempt to grapple with
it. Dr. Lushington was the only one who
touched oh it ; turning from the Counsel for the
Queen, let their. Lordships look at her wit-
nesses. Lieutenant Flynn is called, who had al-
ways the arrangements of the cabins, and yet be
could not say which was Bergawi's cabin ;
when pressed on this point, he reluctantly says,
he believed that l3ergarni slept-under the tent;
mystery in all this, as respected the
Quse
Lieut. Tiownam came next, upon whom
lie did
ie. no
not wish to bear hard, on account of
the obligations he. was • under to her Ma-
jesty, but the very same fact was pxtorted

from him, and he could not believe that he had
not some further knowledge of the point. Now
was there any danger or necessity that required
her Chamberlain to be every night under her
tent ? he would declare there was not the remotest
necessity or danger. This was during the hot
season when the weather was calm; she was not
on board a passage vessel, but the polacca hired
expressly for her, and where the arrangements
were made as ordered by her. Would any woman
who wished to keep up the appearance of decency,
if she thought proper to sleep on deck, would
she not have had her Maid of Honour with
her, for her Majesty had one, and Lieu-
tenant Flynn might have slung his cot on
deck to protect her from accidents by sea.
Lieutenant Flynn said he did so on some
nights, and why not always ? If there was no
harm, why, instead of Bergami, were not either
Flynn or Hownam in the tent ? It was deposed
that a Landsman could be of no use ; and
also that Bergami was so tall and unwieldy, that
if accident had arisen on the deck of so small a
vessel, his largeness must have increased it ; the
fact was, there was not the slightest scintilla, or
even a pretence, for Bergami's sleeping night
after night under the Princess's tent.—(Left
speaking.)

TO CORRESPONDENTS.

We are obliged to postpone the Observations (tio. 4.) in de,
fence of the Bishop of PETERBOROUGH'S Questions to Can
dilates for Holy Orders.

KiNG \Yawn 111. LANnED.—Holiday at the Bank, Exche
quer, East India, and South Sea Houses.

HIGH IVATER AT LONDON BRIDGE TO-MORROW,
Morning, 17 minutts after I. j Evening, 39 minutes after

THE SUN.

SOLEAE QUIS DICERS FALSUM AUDEAT

LONDON,
S4TURDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 1820.

As the sound part of the People must have

'ormed a decisive judgment on the case of THE

QUEEN from the evidence on both sides, and the
arguments of the respective Counsel, and as the
proceedings are still pending, though we ardently
hope are near their termination, we shall perse-
vere in withholding our opinions till the whole is
concluded. The ppinions" of individuals, when
weighed against the honour, wisdom, and justice
of the Legislatufe, are'but as dust in th-e balance,
and therefore the Public in general must have
read with disgust, and much stronger feelings,

the malignant perversions, daring calumnies, and
presumptuous arrogance with which some of our
Competitors have arraigned the character of
that -august- tribunal which is composed of
the wisest and purest characters in the Coun-
try, and from which npthing can proceed
but the most clear and honourable decision.—

We manOlovrever, be allowed to express our
surprise at the vehement part which some of the
Noble Lords have taken on the occasion, as if
they anticipated a national storm, and thought
it the best policy to make a sacrifice at the shritie
of FACTION, which they erroneously deem PUB-
LIC OPINION. These Lords are mistaken if they
suppose that by courting the favour of the Radi-

cals they and their property would escape amid
the general scramble. They may be assured
that their possessions are already parcelled out
by desperate Reformers, who, if they should suc-
ceed, would despise and laugh at those who are
now abetting their principles and promoting their
objects, at the probable hazard of their own ruin.

We received last night and: this morning the
Paris Papers of Tuesday and 'Wednesday last.
The following are extracts :

6' PAats, Oc•r. 3l.—The King gave private audiences yes
terday to the Prinee of Solins and the Count de Rurnigny,
French Aliniiter to Sweden. His Majesty also transacted
business with the Alinister of the Interior and the Duke de
Richelieu.

" Yesterday the trial terminated respecting the affair of
the explosion under the windows of the Duchess de Berri
Gravier and Bouton were found Guilty, and sentenced to
death. Legendre was acquitted, and discharged:.
" Nov. I,—Yesterday, the Tope's Nitucin presented to the
King at a private audience a brief of his Wiliness, in answer
to the notification of the birth of the Duke of .Bourdeaux:
The Count de Galti, the Prussian Minister, also presented a
letter from his Sovereign in answer to a sindiar notification.
The ArlOassadors and Foreign Ministers paid their respects
to the King and Royal Family.
" A Royal Ordantiance was published yesterday for the for.
'nation of 80 Regiments of Inhittry,•instead of the Legions.
" No Journals will•be published' to-morrow, on account of
the Festival of All Saints. •
'' Gravier and Bouton have appealed in Cassation.
" The statement of afire Aintile eopyipf the King's Procla-
mation having been sent to each Elector is erroneous ; litho-
graphic copies were merely sent to that departments in the
usual way,