The Sun.
London, England, 1811-05-28 00:00:00

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Mr. P. Mootta ohjeBed to the ptinciplo
settler.
The 'CU ANCELLOR of the EXC lltittU Ent conceived
that no real grounds of objection had been stated to
the increase. As the recommendAtion cam© from
Successive rresidento of the. Board, consequently did
nett oliginate with his night Honourable Friend
(Mr. Domino), nothing had been said to prove
that it would be improper not to grant the iitcreaso
now.
General ItLITON expressed his determination
to vote ag:mist any increase of silary, as the claims
of the ()dicers of the Army and Navy were in.
finitely greater then the claim of Civil !Officals. He
was aware of the embarrassed situation of the
country ; but when. Ministers talked of the flouriiih.
ing state tit she, finances,. It was bts,cluly to mentlon
the claims of the profession to which he belonged.—
An honourable Baronet (Sir .T...kibtfuther) had
they bad greater incitements than the hope of
pecuniary rewards.—" They, to be sure,". said the
Honourable General, rr seek the bubble reputation
in the cannon's month ; but would it procure them
wine and bread ?" The Honourable. Baronet might
talk of incitements—some 41i:dements were laud-
able; lawyers Would Sometimes leave Wesiminster
Hall to neck the. Clime of ludta, to toil in their
ttrocations, under a silk palanquin, or scale the back
of an elephant. They mot wit h reward, and re-
' turned to this country enriched with the impoils,of
tins East ; but did the Hon. Gentleman ewer lmear of
meombe, of his (Gill. Vs) profeteion returning
Crum t, e Continent atter the spoils of war, and the.
repose enjoyed on the
‘ground rioda a wet blanket,
emiched in purse, or with army other reward, than
what he acquired by his valour ? Gene-.
rwl stated his determined resolut,on to oppose all
increase of salaries to Public °dicers, until the
diaitni of the -At my and Navy, professions so imme.,
diately necessary to the balvation of the country,
were as tended to.
The House then divided,
For AgrctrioA to the Report • Its
for the A 111Ctilitnellt • 19
Majority -
The Report wai of course agreed to, and the Bill
ordered to be rend a third time to-inorrow.
The Report of the Irish Customs Lill was brought

up
Sir JOHN NEIWPOIIT and Mr. lAITCIIINSON wish-
ed for farther time iu order to Consult their cotistitu.
shits upoit the suojeet of the proposed Duty on
Tut ,hers. •
ForrErt penposed to read the Bill 'a third
tim io•morrow. ►
L
S.r Na'aPettT Wiliteu to have the Bill postpon-
ed tiii Fred ,y, and to know when the hely was to
take pis t-
Air. 14'esTett replied from the Ist of June,
After some further convosetion epee the neces-
sity of eehey, ire wheel Mr. Tierney, Mi. Ponsunby,
Chancellor of the Leclieriuer, Mr. C. Wynev,
mid Mr. YOSitt took a pail, l\lr. Foster met the
%wishes of the Hon. Gentlemen, by needing to the
suggestion of delaying the third reedit% till Thues-
dey crest. •
The 1114100 W3ll then agreed to.
THL 1)4.44; oF YORK.
Lord .Miteroe gave holier, 11141 he would take
sn.arly.opportenity of subiniyingeo, the lieuse a
motion relative, to the recent re-eppoitutecut of his
/loyal Ilielmesa the Doke of York to the ottuafem
of Commander in Chid.
The Cat erscaeteist of the E1tC111341311 requested
the Notee Lord would have the goodness.to state
the nalliie of his intended moeine
Lord Mte•ree's reply WIS wholly inaudible hi the
Gallery.
The Ito*t o file Irish Tobacco Bill was' brought
up and agreed to, and the Bill was ordered to be
read a third time Oh ThiltSday. '
Mr. Lustittra-row brought up the Report of the
Chat itable Donation Bill; which Bill was ordered to
be recutnm tted to-morrow.
The Irish .Drainages 831 went through a Commit-
teee the Report 61 which Ve3a.onieretl to he receiv-
ed to-morrow;
MILITIA INTERCHANGE
Mr. Secretary ilypert having moved the Order' of
the Day for the House to resolVe itself into a Corn-
ett:nee on the M:iitia Intetchange Bill;
COlOnel STAN ovit, in consequenee of the meeting
of the Lord Lieutenants and the, Militia Officer*,
who lied opponited a Committee 00 the subject,
*eget:suet the expediency of pusipouing the com-
mittal r4f the Bill for a few days.
Mr. r,Tione understanding that the measure was
objeeleti to in Ireland, and that -Petitioni were pre.
paring agehist it, wished the ;further proceeoing
spun it to be postponed. 'Admitting, she
that the interchange would be favourable to Ireland,
lie was nevertheless atixioes on the subject of the
Cittlirilic Soldiera in the Militia and hoped that the
same exemptions Irons pc:Ratty would be granted to
them in this coutitiy, as .Were enjoyed by ,the Ger-
mans and other foreign Cuilwlic soldiers. Hu
moved, as ON Amendment, that the Bill be cons-
netted media 7th of June:.
Sir JOHN NtsAvkis'e stated, that` he ,he'd ite his
band the, twice of a meeting of ,Heinen• C4IIIUIICB
' iii Dohlitly to,morresvv, Ids tote- purpose of l'etition...
log Perlisitsent to provide in the et wit of passing
the Acts, security to the Catholic soldier when
in this country, for Ole itill.enjuymententi exercise
of hip religion. Even if the existing law rendered
such * provision, uunccessery, yet as a general
vression of e-contraly nature extstso among"the Ca.
sr loss'io di!;cover the wisdom of
frem are yellow al of Al doubt'ort the sub-
ject, by a distinct LeeillaitVe Provision.
Mr. Ciat►TTP.rt 111110 1.0111.011.1 ed, that the Catholic
soldiers should be secured in their religious rights,
not, by iiderelice elope, but by distinct law • and
excel which he had received from thel'ifular
Archbishop ce Item), 'stating the great edvaotages
Which wotild result from tranquilir pg. the minds a
the, Catholic soldiers in the hien Ali itta tie this
etebjed.
The CHAN'etil.l.oll of the EX.CLIEQUUK observed,
that all that cuuld be wished for by the friends of
the Catlenlic soldiers wits, that wheel in this country
they ishookl be placed_ upon the same fooling,
rrspe(t to religion, as in Ireland; that they
should enjoys sitoleir exemption and privileges.—
For all this te Bill belles the house erovided, and
the adoption of it u PC oceompanied by an or-
der wirelat to that issued by the Commander in
Chief in Ireiand, Fits ceuld see no just ground for
delaying .the procetoings on the Lill, as the !louse

%Imre jog .enmpatent to tleviile tlie.rnetits of
this part of the quection, 33 11 tbey were attoAlly in
posseOtrn of the Petitions to which the Hon. Gen-
tleman andthe Flop. Baronet referred.
Mr. iip-iontigsoN Marinly rveutimptided the in-
troduttion [fill or 2 _ clistiso.by which the
Catholic soldier tiltould be untluivueally secured in

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the exercise of his own religioii.
°eh. rA Ittao N ehsrat:lerist.tti ,he mensore OS fraught
who the greatest polhical hod ruthiuty adventogeri to

the empire.
Sir W. W. WYNNE CM not "think' the measure
particularly expedient., and deprecated any hurry in
carrying it through Parliament.
Mr. Secretary Rvoen adverted to the Irish Vo-
lunteering Bill pf 1804, at which period Mr. Fox,
hating suggested the intiCidlltiinn into that 'Rid of a.
clause• exactly similar to that recommended by the
Hon. Gentlemen: opposite, and haviug been told
that by the clear construCtion of the law the Irish
Catholic soldier would, on coming to this country,
be maintained Oa the enjoyment of his own
religion,
at:rink:seed in the reply—. He hail authority from
his Royal Highness the Duke of York to 4tte, that.
on the positing of the Bill an order should bC igsuerl
to that issued by the Commander in Chief
in Ireland.. If any. douvat yet Ninon:ad on theminds
of the Hou•te on the sul:4cil, he was prrsuatled that
ii must be removed on heating the opinions of the
Law Officers of the Crown. lie licit: lead the opt-
nions of the Attorney and. Soltent,r-Gencial, lit
which it was sla r 4 that by the provisions 0.1 the
Bill, the Irish Catholic Militiaman, ott his transfer
to this country, would be entitled to all the privi-
leges with reypero. to rdigion, which he had hereto-
:fore enjoyed in Ireland, notwithstanding any Act to
the contrary which tnit,ht now be in twee in Great

Britain. •
Mr. W. ELLtOTT.Sileti for an additional clause
on the subject, or at least that the Regent should.be
ethnic(' to make a hew Article of Witt (wen it.
After a few additeited observations by 'Lord Pals
me, ston, Mr. Ponsouhy, Mr..ll,rbert, and Lord
G. Cavendish, the Atneuetnent was 11;-g.itived with-
Out a (mstoh, and the House resolved itself into a
Committee,
'Mr. Sexretary RYDgit then Oast:tiled, that to oh-
viate any utisapprehensien on the
.subject, he Wai
Winipg 10 move the iesertion of words stating, that
the Irsl: Catholic Militiamae, wheel tiansterred to
sho,iild be entitles' to'the same civil,
my, Jest r,ligious, cwt.:lo4ms; en were enjoyed by
lola in Ileteed.' . •
The several clauses of the fill passed through the
Committee atter a short discussion; and the House
having been resOmed, theßepurt ,was, ordered to be
receiecd en Thursday.
A mrtilage lioni the Lords arinoonced their Lord-
ships' concurrence with the Pot tugoese Thaty
'and .several other
.11111 s.
On the motion fur going into a Committee on the
subject of granting an iecrease of allowance to the
Lord Lieutenant of Ireland,-
sir J. isleweorer Wished to if; ny notice had
been given on the subject ? somettuog had been
dotes last Session at a very late period, and it was
then understood that early t: is Session certain docu-
ments were to be laid beton?. the House, to prove
the prope:eet increase of allOwaoce necessary. This
he thought ought to be done, and it +.4 as proper that
itotne notice ehoUld be elver: to allow time for the
dues'conside:ation of the subject.
The CHANCELLOK of the Ittetteocast said he bad
certainly gives police of the motion on Saturday ;
but if the Honourable Baronet wished it posipontit
Lid to. morsow , or any day at but a short dis-
tance 'el time, he had no objeCtion to the post-
phheineet of the subject.' It Was, !WA ever, to
be remembered, that the motion was merely 'one
to carry into eficd .the Resolution of last Session.
Sir Joniet NEWrOUT replied, that if it war only
intended tu. bring in a Bill in the regular way, en
the Schiat, there would be sufficient opportunities
'fee him to express his sentiments hereafter, He did
not, under all the circumstances, wish to cause any
delay, but he was not aware that they had tar regts;•
lar notice, Saturday not being a day on which no-
tices given.
The Cum.:cc-Lox of the Exctiestote said, that
be hied vett notice of the motion on Saturday, but
it the itight Hon. 'tarot:et wished for" longer notice:,
he would postpone his mein:: for a day or two: be
had no objerEtion to comply with his wishes.
• Sir Jour NEWPORT said, that if the Right Hon.
Gerldeill2ll meant to move. far -a Bill, he seould not
oppose the bringing it in,ae there would be Opportue
nities of diScUssing it in it $ progress.
'The ElOuse then resolved itself into a Committee
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, said,

would not beneceisary for him to dentin the Com-
mitteeos he merely rose to Move for a Bill to carry
into etfeh the grant of an additional Litary which
had I,tst year been voted to the Lord Lieutenant of
Leland. The groundi upon which that addition
was twide were fully discussed last Seision, and
therefore ,he should not trouble the Committee by
repeating them :• he concluded by moving-fit h:aye
to bring io the Bill.
Sir Jonu NawrouT said, he thought, if any ad-
ditional salary were necessary, it ought to be pro-
vided out of the sums paid to the privy petite, with-
out coming to Parliament for it. Having mention,-
ed the privy purse, ho thought it right to notice,
that iti the papers' laid before the House respeding
the payments to the privy purse, thrrewere receipts
to alt of them except one, and he wished to know
how it happened.
Mr, W. Put.t said, that the case alluded,teby the
Right Hon. Baronet happened in 1804 ; he wait not
of tt tin it WO VON mentioned ; bi,l it was
right that it should be,inquired into. Rut he prin-
cipally rose to, saris& the Right Hon. Baronet upon
mother point to which he had adverted, viz. the
funktaut of which the additional salary was to be
Tire Might Hon; Baronet would find that the
principle of thof4ill was, in the first instance, to
apply the surplus of the Civil List,
.which would
have gone to the privy purse, towards the additional
salary, and all that was now proposed was to add
enough to that surplus to make up the 0,0001.
The ~tAight„ Hon, Baronet knew that the surplus of
the Civil I,istivas paid into the pritry purse, and that
it balance WS% struck every. two years. The last pay-
ment was in taog ; the additional salary to the, Lord
Ltentenant was to cOmmence in January is to, and
all the surplus that occurred SUM: 1114 time .0111,1
go towards the payment of the increased allowance
to the Lord Lieutenant.