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thought that the effect of his remedy would be to over- lant Officer, the Member for Armagh, was nut hi ji!'.
turn the whole existing system, and send them back House. That Galater Officer wee one of their Colon.rt
IS
again to the old law, of which he wee happy to say they —(Laughter) —and he thought lie ought not to liev--le
were now rid. He thought he should be best support- his post. He though:he might have come reeking froo
ing the interests of the working classes by voting against the battle of the Diamonde(
—Cheers He
.) did net ter
the motion. lieve that the the and Uailant Member had desigtieoly.
General JOHNSON supported the clause. . exhibited his Orange Handkerchief; a hen he had tallsra
The House then divided, when there appeared— of the feelings of tntelerance inculcated at Mariene'h
For the clause 55
He agreed with the Hun. Member, that feelinp d
Against it - 9O lerance were bad ; but there was something eo
Majority against the clause —3s that was the pretence of feelings.—(CtreerS.)
Sir T. D. A.CLAND regretted that the Hon. Baronet protection, he would eels, tad the Catholics get ft
had, omitted the 29th clause, empowering the guardians the magistracy in the district in which the 6413,1 L
to appoint local committees. He hoped he would con- Colonel resided?—(i. heers,) There wns the Cadt),"
sent to add that clause. village of Magheray, which had been wrecked in tb.
The Bill was then ordered to be engrossed and read a Gallant Colonel's esence—the villnee had been des
third time on Friday next. stroyed, and the inprhabitants forced totsfly for their
THE CASE OF MASON. , The Jury, however, had not been found unfavourable
On the motion for going into a Committee of Supply, those brouget before them, for not one individaat bese3
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said he rose for the purpose of been convicted or punished for it. The Catholic cleriv
offering some interruption to the pleasing occupation of were subject to many provocations. Was it nothl
voting away public money. when the Protestant gentry brought up their youth
Lord SANDON hoped the Hon. Gentleman would the bitterest feelings of aeimosity to the Catholic'e.l7
defer his motion. ligion?— ("No, no," from the Ministerial benches.) 1:0
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said, when his notice had been yes ; animosity the more apparent, from the fut.* Ina
on the paper the whole day he was surprised at the sug- beneath which it was attempted to be hidder..—(,-
gestion of the Noble Lord. Here were eight individuals cheers.) Feelings the most malignant were enceureije
who, he contended, were improperly and unjustly impri- among the youth of the gentry against the Catlie6
soned, and he could net consent that they should remain clergy calumnies the most find were prolog:3'lp
in that condition. If the Right Hon. Baronet, the Sc- against that clergy—calumnies which he (Mr. O'Cohnee.
cretary for the Home Department, would consent that would undertake to disprove, and to the proof of tole.)
he should bring forward the subject on Frday he would he had repeatedly challenged the calumiators.—(Chen
postpone the motion, but upon no other ground.—(Hear.) I Those who poisoned springs, were accounted miscietritt
Sir J. GRAHAM said there would be another day unworthy of civilisation ; and what should they acce°
for going into Committee of Supply, when the Hon. I those who would fain poison the minds of the yotit'lee
Gentleman would have the same opportunity of bringing a country against a body of men the most worth
forward the subject. He was not aware until yesterday I most exemplary, the most self-denying on the fsevehe
of any of the facts of the ease. He thought that that the earth?—(Cheers.) The people of Ireland luvcati`ien
evening was a very inconvenient time for proceeding with clergy. If they were sick, if they were dying•,,eo,
the discussion. their clergy were administering to them consols';
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE then postponed the motion till Their clergy never deserted them.—
(Cheers.) It net
the next supply day. 1 feet, that the typhus fever never raged in Irelanv', let
SUPPLY. ! an immense number of the Roman Catholic clergy'
The House then resolved itself into a Committee of victims to it.—(Cheers.) And these were the
Supply, Mr. GREENE in the Chair. whom a youth had had the presumption to attaelte.'oe
Sir G. CLERK said he would now proceed with the spirit or the bitterest animosity.—(Cheers.) SL:hee
Irish Estimates. on him for doing so.—(Cheers.) Shame, shame eal'ro
A sum of 8,2931. was voted to defray the expenses of who educated him in such principles.—(Loud clnia
the Foundling Hospital in Dublin. He was sorry he had taken up the attention
14,251/. was voted for the House of Industry in House so long, but he felt it his duty to fling
off oe
Dublin. calumnies. Ile regretted to hear so many cheers
tv'o.
A vote of 1,0001. was agreed to for the Female Or- there ouht to have" been disapprobation. The 11)1 e 1
Oran House in Dublin. burs of the Catholic Church might be assailed, but 1'
2,500/. was voted for the Westmoreland Lock Hospital. never would be conquered.
1,0001. was voted for the Lying-in Hospital. Colonel VERNER explained. During the
wreel
1,5004 was voted for Dr. Stevens's Hospital. of the village of Magheray, he had risked his life 5,/
3,800/. was voted for the purpose of defraying the times to save the village.
lenif
expenses of the House of Recovery and Fever Hospital, Mr. O'CONNELL—It was the Orange Yc°.seel•
Dublin. that wrecked it, and not one of them was ever pull'ber
5001. was voted for the Hospital of Incurables. Mr. BATESON said that the Right Hon. Mewor
On the vote of 8,928/. fur the College of Maynooth for Cork had cast a strong imp verY
utation on a
being put, relative of his, the late Member for Londonderry' of
Mr. PLUMPTRE said he should oppose the vote, (Mr. O'Connell) had mentioned the word " miser tle,
and take the sense of the House upon it.. in connection with that gentleman, in allusion
Lord CLEMENTS defended the grant. manner in which he (Mr. Bateson) had been brougu for
ra
Mr. BATESON opposed the grant. He thought the Now he would not mention how the late butMeerlie
College had not answered the object which it was at Londonderry had brought him (Mr. Bateson) up,
tie
first intended to attain. The College was founded in a would mention how he had not brought him epee end
time of war, for the purpose of preventing the Roman had not brought him up to be a cowardly bluetem
Catholic students in Ireland from going to the mendicant hypocrite.—(oh, oh, and Hear, he.ar.) „11gig
Continent for the purpose of receiving educe- Mr. O'CONNELL said he could forgive the 4400
tion. The College had not taught the students tod gentleman for the language he now used. He lint trod
tribute to those to whom tribute was due. The Cool;ege an admirable specimen of what might be expecte
was founded to prevent a spirit of revolution gaining him.
ground, by obviating the necessity of, Roman Catholic The Committee then divided-
-95
families sending their children to the Continent for an For the grant
education. He trusted the 'Rouse would not agree to Against it
this grant towards a system whicii was most baneful to Majority in favour of the grant..,
the peace and well-being of Irelans:, as the Roman 300/. was voted for the Royal Irish Acatlerayeed
Catholics of Ireland were enslaved by the system, and The• sum of 3001. was voted for the Royal.lllP`
by it a spirit of revolution and treason was cree s
tted. - Academy. fe t"
Mr. HAWES would enter his protest against 700/. was voted for the salaries and expense
the language used by the o ponents of this grant. Commission of Charities in Ireland. Of °it
The Hon. Member ought to be a voluntary reliaionist. 1,9501. was voted kr defraying the salaries
He called on the Hon. Member to consider well the Iloynl. Belfast Academiml Institution. ball°
course he was pursuing, for he struck at the root of all 17,345/. was voted for the expenses of the
State contributions to an Established Church. •He was department in Ireland. SO °I
ashamed of the debate—let them be consistent, and re- On the vote of 23,4631. for Oefraying the exree
fuse all State grants to every Church. He did not object the Secretary and Privy Council a Ireland,
to grants to Churches, if voted fairly and impartially. Colonel SIBTHORP objected to the vote, waa.Tl,o
He did not assume infallibility—he left that to the Hon. Mr. BROTHERTON, moved tha,t the Ch Irwr•
Member for Kent. Ho deprecated many of the topics port progress.—Agreed to. •
tiO
which had been introduced by the Hon. Member who The House then resumed. thir4
spokelast. What good could arise from his abuse of the The Wide Streets (Dublin) Bill was
need a
clergy of the majority of the people of Ireland ? The and passed.
Hon. Gentleman had called himself a Protestant. He
wished he had called himself a Christian, and then lie
would have felt that lie had no right to attack his
fellow Christians in the manner he had done. He hoped
the Government would not be influenced by the Hon.
Member's reasons.
Mr. BAILLIE COCHRANE opposed the vote. The
Regium donunt was on a different footing. It was
quite a different thing to vote the Regium donunt and to
vote a sum of money for the support of a religion
diametrically opposed to our own.
Sir G. H. SMYTH having found, on investigation,
that horrors and filthiness were taught in Maynooth,
felt conscientiously called upon to oppose the grant on
account of the immorality of the system of education
there. He could not vote for the grant when the Pro-
testant religion was in danger, and surely it was in
danger when that powerful man, the Lord Mayor of
Dublin, said he hoped to live to see the day
when high mass would be celebrated in Westminster
Abbey.—(Loud laughter.) S 'rely the Protestant
religion was in danger when the Lord Mayor of Dublin
said that.—(Continued laughter.) He (Sir G. H. Smyth)
had always opposed Catholic Emancipation violently—
(Roars of laughter)—and he thought it was most unfor-
tunate for the country 'that that measure had ever been
carried.
Mr. MONCKTON MILNES said that after what
had fallen from English, Irish, and Scotch Members on
that (the Ministerial) side of the House upon the grant,
it might not be inconvenient for him to say a few words
why he could not conscientiously refuse to vote for the
grant to Maynooth. He coukt not say that the extravagant
wish of the Hon. and Learned Member for Cork would
frighten him out of his propriety, but he must say, in
reference to the extracts from theological works alluded
to, that isolated passages thus selected could not
be with justice brought forward as a charge
against the Catholic religion. • He thought the
English Government were bound to interfere in the
education of the Roman Catholics of Ireland, and while
he insisted on the justice of allowing the grant to May-
nooth, he trusted that, considering the fiscal difficulties
under which the State at present laboured, no one would
seek for an increase of that sum.
Colonel VERNER said there never was in any coun-
try, certainly not in England, an institution supported
at the public expense, against which so many grave charges
had been brought, and which had been so weakly met.
He would quote the published opinions on the subject, of
one of the chief supporters of the present Government;
and one who was not only a supporter, but one of its
brightest ornaments. It was the opinion of W. E.
Gladstone, Esq., student of Christ Church, in a pamphlet,
entitled, " The Church in relation to the State." In
that pamphlet it was stated, " that this grant was
niggardly in 'amount, and was vicious in principle, and
would be a thorn in the side of the country, so long as
it was continued. If indeed, the public faith was pledged
to the College; by all means let it be kept up." He
(Colonel Verner) knew that that Right Hon.
Gentleman was one of the last men to forfeit
that pledge, if it had been given, but he (Colonel Verner)
denied that it had been made. Those were the senti-
ments of a gentleman whose opinions were entitled to as
much weight as the opinions of any individual in that
House. The Duke of Wellington himself had also ex-
pressed a similar opinion to that of the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman. The Noble Lord, the Secretary for Ireland, had
often told the House how much the Government was in-
debted to time Catholic priests for their exertions in pre-
serving the peace of the country. He only wished he
could say the same thing of his own part of the kingdom.
When were the priests ever found coming forward to
support the authorities ? The Hon. Gentleman con-
cluded amid the greatest marks of impatience.
Mr. BROTHERTON moved that the Chairman do
report progress.—(" Oh, oh !" and " Go on.")
Lord JOCELYN would support the grant, believing
that the Government was pledged to do it, but hoping
that an inquiry into the system would be granted by the
Executive.
Lord ELIOT thought the discussion had partaken
more of the character of a theological controversy than
a political debate. The grant had been approved by
every House of Commons that had existed since it was
passed, and nothing he had heard had induced him to
think it ought to be refused. He thought so large a
portion of the Irish people ought not to be exposed to
spiritual destitution, which would be the case if they
were deprived of the opportunity of receiving instruc-
tion in the fundamental truths of their religion. The
Commission of Inquiry, issued in 1835, had given it as
their decided opinion that nothing either immoral or
disloyal was taught in the College ; the class books that
had been alluded to were the class-books used in every
Roman Catholic college in Europe ; teere might
be a question raised as to whether those who were
intended for the priesthood should receive such a course
of instruction, but the plan adopted at Maynooth was
that followed in every other Catholic college. As to
the objections founded on isolated passages extracted
(ruin the works alluded to, they might as well go to the
College of Surgeons, and object to the anatomical plates
of their class-books that they were indecent and obscene.
He thoug,ht no more forcible areument for repeal could be
used than refusing this grant, and it was utterly inexpli-
cable to him how those wished to maintain the Union
could vote against the grant. He felt bound to bear his
testimony to the conduct of the Catholic priests in the
disturbed districts.
Mr. O'CONNELL would, if ho considered himself at
liberty aster the spsecries winch bad been made, vote
against the grant, tit- he, on principle, objected to taxing
one set of Curistia is for the religious purposes of an-
other ; besides the grant was a miserable, niggardly one.
(Hear, hear.) It appeared that the Right Hon. Baronet
the Member for Colchester, had been ulifortunate in his
readings; he had diligently sought out that which every
one else would avoid. It was a taste perhaps peculiar to
the Hon. Barohet.—(A laugh.) The Hun. Member for
Kent, it appeared, was offended. tie was sorry fur it, for
he thought there were none who would take the trouble
to appease the Hon. Member; but the Hon. Member
need not take the trouble to go su far as Maynooth fur
the doctrines which had offended him; he would find them
much nearer home. He would only have to travel as far
as Oxford to find them—(Cheers and laughter)—as the
lion. Member for I'ontefraet could tell him, who it ap-
peared had approached so near to Catholicity that he was
determined never to join it.—(Cheers.) He knew not what
had become of the Hon. Member fur the University of
Oxford. He would not !N• """

BRIBERY BILL. a lie
Sir THOMAS WYLDE asked when a duLYc°lll
fixed for the bringing forward the Bribery Itui.,loe,
Sir R. PEEL said it was the wish of the' voiti
ment to proceed with the supplies, and he ',4loforthee
better able on Friday to say what day he f.!ouldTe IC" .5. 11.
Bill. Considering the state of public busintjfr
thought it would be advisable that the Rouse tows
end of the session should meet at twelve o'cl°c's
day.—(Hear, hear.)
SOUTH AUSTRALIA BILL. sal°
On bringing up the Report of the South A".-
ct'
Bill,
Dr. BOWRING thought the Bill ought t .1),,e 136
erl;f:
poned, as the Hon. Member for Montrose had bler,
tice of two special clauses on the bringing up the 0,
Sir R. PEEL could not postpone the Bill betso vte
Hon. Member for Montrose Nv-1;s not in his- Place'v-101 "-
Mr. B. WOOD thought the Bill ought 0 _
brought on at that late hour of the night. , ,APIIIII
Lord STANLEY said the quest.;on .4,ttir"
discussed last night. He should press thebe aficatev.
Dr. BOWRING moved that the debate -
Mr. P. WOOD seconded the motion. _
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw'
House divided, when there appeared—
For the adjournment
•
Against it
Majority against the adjournment '5511 "-
The announcement of the numbers was reCei.l.
shouts of laughter. clef('
The Report was then brought up, and the
to be read a third time this day.
PRISONS BILL. ed
The Prisons Bill was read a third time and pa''-; re
The Common Law Courts (Ireland) Bill ivit.tci
a second time, and ordered to be comnlitv
Monday next. tbi'v
The Election Petitions Trial Bill was read *
time and passed. r.'J'
The Customs Act Amendment Bill went
Committee. Rep,irt this day. jai°
The Stamp Duties Bill passed through Cot
Report this day. bro
The Exchequer Bills Preparation Bill went t 114.
Committee. Report ordered to be received this fl
The Game Certificates (Irel nd) Bill was 1'0"
cond time.
The House then adjourned at Half past Two o'Cl°l

c
ST. 'KAT HARINE DOL)11-'-', A
fo•
Tuesday the half-yearly meeting of the Pr';'r 10,1)
of the St. Katharine Docks was held aZ their_d,
Tower-hill, for the purpose of declaring ivichP
other affairs ; Thomas Tooke, Esq. in the Chalol7,l,
The CHAIRMAN remarked, upon opening the Pacc.?,',f,
of the meeting, that the financial accOlints were,
eetvfi
ing to the Dock Act, produced at the .January 11106
and not at that of July, the chief object of theit), 0:0
assemblage ;of the Proprietors being the declgrat otf
dividend for the half-year, and to ballot filr twi 'iot
Directors for the year ensuing. He would Yee/pi-Pet
turn of the shipping which entered the pore
with cargovs. during the six months ended the ;10
July instant ; it was as follows : tern
Return of the Number of Ships, and the Tonnage, e',o
Port of London, with Cargoes, during the six lanlg'
the otb of July, in the years 1841 and 1842
• 01`°4rt,
BRITISH. o,t
Ships. Tons. ShkPs'
1841
1842 2,130 433,100
, /
fltooP
Increase in 1842 220 36,000 Loss in 1842 ~
Ships. , 5,717)
Total six months' increase British .......... 020 ••••'„ 4/n
Deduct decrease Foreign B4 •••••
1

Total increase, Port of London
lA'
He was happy to state that the St. Katharine IP f
participated in that increase to the extent 4f istPibe
cent., as compared with the corresponding six 117 iti,,oo
1841. The landings, and the stuck of goolljeoce,
warehouses, had also been augmented, and the Ayr
had been enabled to increase the rest, or surPlus,
carried forward on the first of the present meat Dtrev ol°
these gratifying circumstances, therefore, the ,d 5111
had to propose to the Proprietors, that a divide► ocot:
be declared of 2:4 per cent. on the capital ste 411
Company, for the half-year ended the 30th 00,, to
and they also submitted to their approval, that th c,noilie
of income-tax, chargeable upon the dividends c
the Proprietors, should be defrayed by the CO°
Resolutions were unanimously passed, in °C -0; toll
with the above retzmnmendatiolis of the Direct ;
after some remarks from a Proprietor, on the siL;r: res"
management of their interests, and the favourabit" fll
as exhibited in the expose that had been madef„ro Olt al
Thanks were unanimously voted to the h'7l 41' 141'
the Test of the Directors, for their continuBLo6.
exertion; the ballot was taken, and the ni'-
joureed.
'OSI.I

NO STARVATION AM01,1114-3
LANuLORDS OR FARIVIP`").
Ni (From Woolmei's Exeter Gazette, JulYl6,,,'‘,csi ~
. ORTH DEVON FARMEt:B IN 1516 AND lB42•----' ..e'r3s 'd
six petitions, signed by 700 occupiers und clinettn '`.
1:oti,1 i,, North Devon, stat.ed that " manY °f th-01 b ..,cet
)Ir t, meet the payments of the Incorne-tas, - g T),
underdisadvantage
the necessity of selling ti,seir young. cattleto Ito
"Happily the times are illter4l,
dflin d ant:•!ge ; and many of then? were in confiner
_r
debt, from inability to pay !" t t '''
protP
1842 finds a patriotic and generally
. I
nrorp,_
A eg Ile°
1101 i:11 i Willi' "' I, to pay i."
So much for the Corn-laws. Landlorco t'eri qrall,tit ''„
boasting of prosperity while
inanun'icturers -431" -of I li.
men are starving ! And as regards the farm er.: it if ,$
north of
, Devon. paying towards the Inceine-ta ' so 0;
At as talnic), for the generality of fanners re ~ the
and not ~iat to tilt.) of the whole number is Otte" '0 V,
:It i. thelneorile7-41 01,1'
va,itie of 3001. per ann.t.o ; and if a return sholl,' il IP
‘: ikr.d by I' r iatnent. t is I,.enerally considereu
,t be
to., ..eitting
'''' mers in it, ~,,-. , h of Devon will no

found as payers to the Income-tax•

July 1
AEV

It is stated in a letter from Tripoli,
ilib,s‘lied by. the Commerce, that the Governor,
A 3 continuing the work of slaughter, and had decaPlt The
' • "1,(1,-... u, 1, ,111 CC the le-st accounts.
it/U 01 iltAlbiet, which took Pa"
tr:iying 7,;:lavaed:ctit...eacvk. er;v

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where- he was. He was sorry to see, too, that the Gal-