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Examination resumed.

R. You say that it was given yon l y Sehiarini ?—A. Yes.
Is the body of it written
.by him ?,—Yes.
About that time was Schiavini in the habit of giving certi-
ficates'to persons quitting the service of her Royal Highness?
Mr. 'BROUGHAM:—That is an improper question.—lt
should rgther he asked in .what situation he was at that time.
What situation did Schiavini bold at that time ?—Mares-
chal of the Palace.
When the servants left the Palace did any person usually
give their character.?-1' have not seen it practised,' but Ma-
jocc igot a certificate, and Saiavini gave it to him. • ,
Was Sehiavini -Master of the Palace when he gave it him ?
He was.--,Oid you'applytoliim fora certificate?—No, I did not.
How long before you quitted did Majocci go ?—Majocci
went before me.
How long ifOn't recollect ; about two mouths; •
ATTORNET,GENERAL thought the certificate might
be fend. •

Mr. BROUGHAM contended that they bad got no furttier
ban 'they were 4efuie with respect to the inadmissibility of
he paper.

• The.LORD.CHANCELLOR read the question and answer
from the beginning of this.
Lord ERSKINE observed, that a single instance would not
prove the custom.

' The part of the evidence referred to having been read,
The, _LORD -CHANCELLOR declared, that the .bidges
agreed with him in thinking there was not sufficient evidence
to warrant the certificate being received.
Resumed.—You were asked just now about a family of the
name of Marietti, who are they ?—I know several brothers.
-I-Tad they a banking house at Milan?—They
Bait they also one oftrade in London ?—I do not know if
it is in .their name.
Do you know that there is a Firm or Company ?—l.do.
Is one of the Mariettis a partner in that house ?—Yes, I be-
lieve.

DoOyOU know if the Mariettis are hankers at Milan ?
they 'were so.
You stated that two months ago one of the Mariettis called
on you ?—I did. . . ,

'—Once

On that occasion did he state the purpose for which he
called ?

Mr. 'BROUGHAM objected to the witness going into any
conversation which had taken place betweeit Mr. Marietti
and..him, unless what the witness believed and what that
Wittleman said were to be admitted as evidences Tlie wit-
ness had allowed that he once believed Mr. Marietti was his
hanker, which, with some conversation he had with him, was
all the connection that his Learned Friend could make out
between them.

The ATrOitNEY-GENERAL said, his right of question-
ing the witness on this point did not depend on so slend:'," a
foundalioi. In his.cross-examination, the witnen.,had been
asked a question, about which he, in re-examination, had a
right to know all he could learn, and all thit had passed. On
this 'ground, he contended, he had a right to ask the questioa
which 'pis Learned Friend objected to.
Thee LORD ,CHAIsICELLOR directed. that such. part of the
eri..tence as related to the conversation should be read.
The Short.:harid.Writer's notes were read. . •
' The ATTORNEV-GENERAL then submitted that be bad
,a right to apply his questions to the whole of the conversa.
tion. He proposed to ask what Mai ietti said to the witness.
Mr. BROUGHAM contended that his Learned Friend had
no right to put that question.
• Lord-ERSKINE suggested that the witness ought be exa-
mined to the particular point of conversation.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, a conversation, as far as
he could collect, had occurred between Marietti and the wit-
ness, respecting his being a witness against the Queen.—
Without presuming to say what should he a legal opinion, his
Lordship thought the House ought to hear what the conver7
sation: was.

The LORD CHANCELLOR said,' if the conversation
turned on the, matter, on which the witness was examined,
they had a right to examine the man on the point.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL then put the question fol-
lowing ;-=, .
On what occasion was ,it that yon told Marietti yon was a
witness against the Queen ?—I went on a visit to Marietti
two months. ago.

What was it made you state that you was a witness against
the Queen ?—M. Maiietti said—

Air. BROUGHAM objected to the question: The witness
iad not said one word to justify his Learned Friend in asking
him what Marietti said.

Mr. DENMAN supported the objection.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, the question put by
Marietti to the witness had arisen out of something said, and
he was regular in asking the witness what he said.
After some discussion, the Attorney-General put his ques-
tion in a new form, • '

• Did any conversation take place between the witness and.
Marietti relative to his being a witness against the Qucen ?
When he told Marietti that be was going as a witness against
the Princess, Marietti told him that Mr. Brougham, brother
to het. Royal Highness's Counsel, bad said he, would bestow'
favours on those who would not go.
Mr. BROUGHAM here cried out Stop, stop!—(Loud laugh-
ing, and a cry of Order, order !)
Lord EXMOUTH spoke to order, and submitted to the
House whether the witness had not been improperly inter-
rupted ?

Mr. BROUGHAM said he objected to the matter stated
by the witness as illegal. • •
Earl GREY observed, if Counsel could state to the House
why he objected, their Lordships would forfeit their character
for impartiality if they did not hear him.
Lord EXMOUTH explained.
Lord HOLLAND said, the Judges ought to decide whether
Counsel was wrong or right in stopping an answer considered
illtgal.
Lord EXMOUTH again explained.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said a proper question had.
been put to the witness, which he proceeded to answer when
be was interrupted. It was therefore the duty of Counsel to
submit to the House the ground on which the witness ought
not to proceed. .

_ .
Mr. ROUGHANI.—" He was going, into a conversation
which ong•Marietti had with another. Marietti, as to some
favour which was to be conferred by one of their customers.
It was. only in that character my brother or myself could be
' known ta_them."
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said bis Learned Friend was
again irregular in speaking of himself.
Lord ERSKINE and Lord REDESDALE said a few words
on the point, and the LORD CHANCELLOR put the follow-
ing question :—What induced you to make a statement -to
Marietti, that you were a witness against the Queen ?---Ma-
rietti, when he paid me a visit, hi had already been told by
somebody that I was a witness against the Queen, and he
asked me whether it was true what he had heard.
Mr. DENMAN objected to any statement which Went be-
yond the subject on which the witness. was examined.,
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL contended that the Counsel
opposed to him had no right to take part of the evidence in
cross-examination, and confine those who re-examined to the
limits they thought proper. He certainly conceived he was
entitled to get the whole of the conversation.
Mr. BROUGHAM replied.
The LORD CHANCELLOR. directed the short hand writer
to read the question, and finally proposed to put this ques-
tion —" Didldatietti 'say any thing to you with respect to
f t
your being a witness:
Mr. BROUGHAM.—What Marietti said, is not evidence
unless it is. to explain something stated by the witness.
The AtrouNEY:GENERAL then ordered the witries-540
be asked, Whether he had said any thing to Marrietti on the

subject of his being a witnets, more than be had stated
No.

Upon your saying you were a witness, did Marietti make
any observation on the subject I
Mr. BROUGHAM said the question was irregular.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL again urged his tieht to
hive the conversation on the subject; and the Lord Chanted-
fur intimated, that the judgment of the Judges on the point
'night be given to-morrow. A specific question might then
be put to them.
After a few observations from Earl Grey, the
Earl of Lauderdale, Lord Erskine, and the Lord
Chancellor, the point was reserved till to-morrow,
and •the House Adjourned.

From the LONDON GAZETTE of Sept. 5.

Carlton House, Sept. 5, 1820.
The Kin; has been pleased to appoint George Bartholomew
Pocock, Esq. to be Standard Bearer to his Majesty's Band
of Gentlemen Pensioners, vacant by the resignation of John
Stockdale, Esq.

Foreign Office, Sept. 1, IRO.
The king has been pleased to approve of Mr. Harvey
Strong as Consul at Glasgow for the (Jolted States of America.

° BANKRUPTCIES ENLARGED.
.1. Harvey, Bull Head-passage, Leadenhall-market, poul-
terer, from Sept. 9 to Oct. 3.
W. Longburst, Tosibridge, Kent, ironmonger, from Sept. 9
:o Oct. 2M.

' BANKRUPTS. -
W. Larlham, Great Yarmouth, coachmaster, Sept.-18, 19,
and Oct: 17, at four, at the Norfolk Hotel, Norwich. Solici-
tors, Messrs. Simpson and Co., Norwich; and Mr. Taylor,
Featherstone-buildings, Holborn.
J. Greases, Nottingham, grocer, Sept. 18. 19, and Oct. 17,
et eleven at the Ram Inn, Nottingham. Solicitors, Mr. R. S.
Taylor, Field-court, Gray's-i nn ; and Mr. Payne, Nottingham.
JC- . DIVIDENDS.
Sept. 27, S. W. Moates, Birmingham, tobacconist—Sept.
-26, M. D. Martin, I3iirlingt6n Arcade, Piccadilly. Jeweller
Sept. 28, T. A. Kerrison, Norwich, banker—Oct. 11, W.
Lowndes, J. Robinson, and H. Neild, Manchester, cotton-
dealers—Sept. 30, W. Hamilton and M. Agar, Riches-court,
Lime-street, merchants,

CERTIFICATES—SErr. 26.
J. Rood, Portsmouth, conmion-brewer—J. Levi, Wells,
Norfolk, cabinet-maker—A.WFarlane, Postern-row, Tnwer-
hill, toyman—S. Cooper, Tottenham-court-road, loaker.