Star.
London, England, 1808-03-30 00:00:00

NOMINEES.

The Right Hon. G. Tierney and James Graham, Pm,
CHRIST CHURCH ELECTION COMMITTEE.
.J. Dawkins, Esq. Ch. Jenkinson, Esq.
lien. R. Curzon I. Dupre, Esq.
H. Thornton, Esq. • T. Whitmore, Esq.
J. Fane, Esq. J. Baker, Esq.
.Lp. Pocock, Eng. 7. Forrester, Esq.
T.,m-d Chas. Somerset Manners 1. F. Turner, Esq.
NOMINEES.
The Hon. J. Abereremby and R. Permian, Esq.
COMMITTEE OP FINANCE.
Mr. RIDDULIPH gave notice, that te-morruer he wlll mews
that thename otthe Hon. J. W. Ward shall be sehatknesd ea the
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opiCelr=sale the ComisimilmailirlipA mot Mcesgeedara
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The LORD ADVOCATE et ertat plow% that tier*
be laid before the Hews a sort et the of dtt "COI-

mistimes* of Publis Records in as far as respects Scotlead witk
a view to founding a Bill upon this document, the object o_•
should be the better regulating of the mode of keeping kmris
in that part of the kingdom.—Ordered.

NOTICES.
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Sir THOMAS TURTON, on the suggestion of Mr R Du.
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du, his motion relative to the Carnatic, till ms
rho ACM— • u y
ITZWART gave notice, that be will move for tie
postponement of the Donegal Election Committee.
Mr. WHITBREAD put of his motion for Rosana Pap
from Friday tilt Monday stem ers
On tha motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQ
time Committee on the Petitions against the Orders in Cos'
was deferred from this day till Friday next
Mr. HUSKISSON produced an Account of all the Stuns
sf
ihfiney drawn by virtue of Treasury Viatrants out of the bands
of the Surveyor General of the Woods and Foram, Maki was
ordered to lie upon the table.
The Indictment Bill and the Orders in Council laden:why hu
were severally committed, and the Reports ordered to be received
tommerenr.
The Irish Warehousing Bill was read a second time.'
DAMN FLZEr.
Lord FOLKESTONE rose to submit a motion for
the consideration of the House, respecting the pro.
ptiety of restoring the Danish fleet, at a future pe.
nod, in the same state as when taken. The Noble
Lord condemned the principle on which Govemnsent
had aced in seizing the fleet. He was induced to do
this, from the sort of defence which they had set up.
Though at first he had been inclined to approve it,
he then felt that a ground of strong emergency must
be made out to justify the seizure. When the Expe.
dition first sailed, Ministers had declared their
tention of taking possession of the fleet, in order to
keep it for Denmark until the restoration of pence;
and then they pledged themselves to return it back
into the possession of that Power. Their subsequent
conduct, however, had since proved that the declare.
tion was a mere pretext to k the fleet, and to de.
lude Denmark. There could eep
be no real doubt exist.
ing of the friendly disposition of Denmark to this
Country, though there was certainly great doubt as
to her ability to resist the power of France. The
Noble Lord, after a few more observations, moved,
n That an humble Address be presented to his Ma.
jesty, that he might still retain in his mind the first
trorrtsal made on the part of this Government to the
Court
of Denmark, -respecting the fleet of that Power;
that that proposal has bbeeeenn violated from no fault on
their part, but in consequence of violent aggressions
acted on the part of Great Britain." ,I'he Noble
Lord stated, that after this Address should be car-
ried, he had to move a Resolution for the restoration
of the fleet in the same state as when. taken possession
of, at the ratification of a Definitive Treaty of Peace.
Mr. BRAND seconded the Motion. He lamented
that the subject, which was one of importance as con.
nected with the honour and character of the country,
had not induced a fuller attendance of Members.-- .
He too had entertained similar opinions with his
Noble Friend, as to the propriety of the seizure, coa-
ceiving that Ministers had good grounds for justifies-
don. They had assumed those grounds, but when
called upon to produce them, they had failed, and
therefore stood, both in the eyes of the world and the
People of England, as having acted improperly. The
Hon. Gentleman was ready to assume, for the sake
of argument, that one Nation had the right to dis-
possess the other of any of its propel ty. He would take
a broader ground, and say that it had the undoubted
right to attack and despoil a Neutral. Suppose the -
Emperor of France were to attack Holstein, be would
hR like manner be entitled to any part of that territory
he could get. He was ready to admit that this country
bed the right of exacting from Denmark any part of
her property or her possessions essential to the contest
ilk which we were engaged. This was clear, on the
ground of self-preservation—but in case another treaty .
of Westphalia was made, and Bonaparte so modified
his demands as to preclude the necessity of keeping
the fleet, we were bound in honour to restore it.
Mr. SAMUEL THORNTON was inclined to
support the motion of the Noble Lord, but was of
opinion the authority to restore the fleet in the event
of peace should be vested in Ministers.
Sir THOMAS TURTON justified the conduct of
Ministers, on the ground that though no actual ap-
pearance of hostility was manifested, yet that a co-
vered one was evident from all the information which
they had obtained ; which information, if published,
might lead to the most dange,ous consequences.
Mr. DAVIES GIDDY supported -the Address,
not that he thought the restoration of the ships due w
Denmark as a matter of right ; but that he thought
it an act of generosity becoming and incum4eet on
the character of the British nation.

Mr. WILBERFORCI conceived that the ground
of necessity which had been established, was a suffix
cient justification for the steps taken in getting pot-.
session of the fleet. Ministers had, in his opinion,
acted properly in obtaining an instrument (which
might have been used by the enemy against this
country) by less violent means.than was usually re.,
sorted to.
Sir T. TURTON explained.
Mr. HAWKINS BROWNE commended our
moderation in having paid for every thing we got from
the Danes, and was against returning the ships at
present. He considered the fleet as much a lawful
prize as if we had met it at sea in a state of 2,114
hostility.
Mr. HANBURY TRACEY, adverting to thealii
servations of some of the former Speakers, that it .
ought to be left to Government to return the ships it'
the conclusion of the War, hoped that the.. present
Ministers would not then be in place. , .
Mr. BABINeTON supported the motion. *.
*Mr. SIMEON was against returning the ships.
He commented on the hostile mind of the- Dane!l
.;
which he said was evinced in their keeping oils pp-,
soners, although we had released theirs. - • 2
Mr. BATHURST considered this as very different ••• -.
from the discussions which had taken place before.--
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the question was then respecting the
ship He
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now respecting the restoration of the ships.. He ‘,
thought the character and dignity of the country tt!
quired that they should be restored. We should net,','/
by imitating the example of others, abatition uil gm: .*-
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sal and political rules. _ -,:5.11,i5... eidi:' ,
Mr. SIMEON explained. -r:-7 !t, aP. A'• -4, ,
Mr. STEPHENS was against the Motion:' • - ', '
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