The Sun.
London, England, 1818-12-11 00:00:00

LEAMY'S BEQUEST.

According to adjournment, a respectable Meet-
ing was held yesterday, at the Commercial Build-
ings, to take into consideration the answer of the
Executors of the late Mr. Leamy's Will, to the
Memorial published in our last. Some delay was
occasioned, expecting that Earl Clare would have
attended however, it being stated that his
Lordship was particularly engaged, after two
o'clock, Robert Maunsell, Esq. was voted to the
Chair.

Mr. Bruce said that he came to the meeting to
express his opinion on the subject—this was, that
the answer of the Executors appeared conclusive
and candid—they had the option, by the will of the
deceased (which he here read), to expend the re-
sidue of his estate in any mode which appeared
hest to them for the instruction of the lower or-
ders of Irish children,. These ,Gentlemen had,
with a praiseworthy prediliction for Limerick,
the native place of Mr. Leamy, determined to
expend the entire sum in this City, and to esta-
blish a Seminary on the broad basis of Christian
charity, from which no sect or party was to be
excluded, and in which they resolved the Bible
should be read without note or comment. Now,
he observed, if these Gentlemen were teased or
tormented, and persuaded that this plan would
not answer in Linicrick, he much feared that they
would give up this City, and establish their Se.
urinary some where else ; and on this principle he
would propose that no further observations should
be made to the Executors.

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Mr. Howly could not-agree with the learned
Gentletnau, and was of opinion that the Execu-
tors wisiu to do what was best for giving instruc-
tion to the poor of Limerick ; and that if they
were assured by the present respectable Meeting
that the introduction of the Scriptures into their
intended School would preclude all Catholic chil-
dren from its benefit, which was the fact, he was
persuaded they would give up this point.
►Mr. Bruce assured the Gentleman who spoke
last that he knew Doctor Fitz-Gerald, that be was
a man of clear understanding, much learning, and
exemplary piety ; he had the most warm attach-
ment to the principles of revealed religion, and
was most zealous for the propagation of the Tes-
tament. Such was his love, and such his convic-
tion of the good to be reaped by the dissemina-
tion of this Divine Book, that he believed jio
power or influence on earth could persuade him
to yield a point of such vital importance to
the good of society and of pure religion.—
Doctor Fitz• Gerald and Mr.Marberts, of Chatle-
ville, had prevailed on him (Mr. B.) to subscribe
to the Bible Society.
Archdeacon Maunsell said, that let his opinion
he palatable or not, he always acted openly and
candidly, and would now do the same. He was
sorry to be obliged to state, that the Petition sent
to the Executors appeared to him not candid or
manly, purporting to he in behalf of the Free
Schools of Limerick; it was, in reality, in be-
half of Schools under the care of Roman Catholics
of the Clerical Order. Ile liked open, manly con-
duct, but be could not sanction a petition which
called that a free school to which a Protestant
could not send his child, without a certainty
of his religious principles being subverted.—Far
be it from him to wish to interfere with any
man's conscience, but as a Pastor of the Protest-
ant Church, he must declare against allowing that
to be a Free School which was under the direction
of persons bound to suliert the principles of any of
his flock who should go there. He read the answer
of the Executors with pleasure ; he conceived
their project most desirable, and very feasible.—
God forbid that Protestants and Roman Catholics
should not live and be educated tinder one roof.
That it is possible, I hope, and 1 am firmly per-
suaded, that no means is more likely to wear
down the asperities unfortunately existing be-
tween both sects; and of amalgamating them,
that' by a tree intercourse between the youth of
each. The separate and partial establishments at
present existing, must always tend to increase the
prejudice, and surely no system of instruction MI
tend more to accomplish this purpose than giving
them that holy word, to the reading of which
God has promised a special blessing. He saW no
objection to it ; he woold support it, but he would
not support a school inimical to the Church of
England.
Mr. Howly said he gave the Archdeacon every
credit for his candour, and was sorry that the pe-
ition should appear to him uneaudid—and to
she* with what a fair view it was penned, he
should state, that before being forwarded it was
sent to tl►e Lord Bishop of Limerick for his sig-
nature. This was uot obtained.

The Rev. Mr. Cull, P. P. sairi tivit be should
be ai sanOid lo the Learned Archdeacon, and Old t

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be, a Clergyti not ti.e Room; Catholic per&.4la.
sion, had as. flinch right to watch over tt.e princi-
ples of his flock, and dust therefore ol>jec4 to the
idea of thtir receiving in a school wht.ret
the Bible was read, and 's here, therefore, the Pio-
testatit Doctrines Sochi foUaw. fie was
persuaded, therefore, with Mr. Uowly, that the
Executors would wave the point it they Wure in-
formed of the insuperable objection which' the
Boman Catholic Church had to its flock reading
the Scripturei, as proposed by the Executors.

Doctor Campion said, that he took the liberty
of making a few observations. From what thd
R^r. Gentleman who spoke last said, it appeared
that the only objection which the Roman Catlio
lie Clergy had to the propoSed plan, was, lest their
flocks timid(' read theßiWe—where there was so
much candour and liberality of sentiment display-
ed, as appeared in the present meeting, he thought
this pOint, on which only appealed a division, may
be brought to Meet the approbation. of all par.'.
ties—had the Roman Catholic Church DO Obi ec.:
tion to the Doway Bible being given, without note
or comment, into the hands of any of that per-
suasion who may attend the school ?-11 this was
answered in the affirmatille, it was more than pro-
bable that the Executors would permit it, and
thus every objection he removed.

The Rev. Mr. Cull could not, at that moment,
give a definitive answer as to whether the Roman.
Catholic Church would permit the Doway Bible
to be read, Without note or comment, but would
consult with the Clergy, and give an answer in a
few days.
Doctor Keating said, that_ be doubted much of
the good to be expected to society from any
system of education of which the Scriptures did
not make a portion. It is not, said the Learaed
Gentleman, to make Ale-house Politicians and
Newspaper Commentators of the lower orders that
we Wish to instruct them—it is to improve-their
morality and make them good Citizens. This
rannot be better done than by putting the un-
adulterated Word of God into their hands.

The Rev. Mr. Keating made some very pull.
rent observations to the same purpose.
Mr. Arthur }imposed to have each persuasion
read their own Bible with comments, to their
pastors, in little rooms, apart from the school-
room, into► which they may go by sound of bell.
Doctor Carroll replied, that a principle was laid
down, from which, it appeared, tl,e Executors
would not swerve, namely, " that the Bible should
he read wit houtnote or comment,"—this must he
kept in view ; after what. was said, he could have
no objection to it, and he trusted the Roman Ca-
tholic Clergy would permit their flock to read the
Bible—he said that the Clergy could diligently
attend to the religious instruction of their flock
after school hours, and could examine then► in
such portions of Scripture as they had read at
school, and thus instil more forcibly their own,
doctrine.

The Rev. Mr. Hanrahan said, he conceited it
highly probable that his Church would have no ob 4
jtction to their own Bible being rend in the
school, without note or comment ; at the same
time, that much corVusion may be created by suck
different translations.

Archdeacon Maunsell did not think the diffe-
rence in the t►anslations were of such conse-
quence as was apprehended it was more in word
than in spirit.

The Rev. Mr. Cull asked Mr. Bailey (to shew
the candour of the petition which Archdeacon
Maunsell reprehended) whtther ie did not say
that he would have signed it ?
Mr. Bailey replied, that he had said so, but at
that time he had nor seen it ; if he had sce'► it, he
would not have said so : it was a petition for a
partial, and not an universal charity, as he then
supposed—he would at the same time say, that
he frequently visited the Nunnery School, and
had much satisfaction in stating, that the order
and industry he witnessed there met his entire
approbation ; he supported it accordingly—but
their religious School on Charlotte's-quay he
could not support ; it was not a free School, as
was asserted.

Mr. Bruce said that it was getting late; be
thought this was not the time to arriuge plans
for the education of those to attend the intend('([
School—let the Executors first build the School ;
we are then sure of them, and may give our ad-
vice; several accidents may occur before that pe-
riod, which would render unavailing any resolu-
tions we may come to. If the Roman Catholic
Clergy agree to their version of the Holy Scrip.
tures being read without note or comment, all
masters are finally settled—all minor subjects can
be better arranged by a Committee. The answer of
the Executors did not preclude the Roman Catholio
version ; it only says_the Scriptures, without note
or comment, should be read. That being the
case,, he conceived it better to dissolve the pre-
sent meeting without any resolntion, and would
therefore propose, that this meeting do adjourn
sure the, which was unanimously cat vied ; and the
Thanks of the Meeting were returned and unani-
mously given to Robert Maiimell, Esq. for his
very gentlemanlike and efficient conduct in the
Chair.

CHALLVNGE FROM TURNER TO MARTIN..--TOIN.
ner went to Burn's, the liking Sun, in
str:et, on Wednesday, to chalknge Martin, the
conqueror of Scroggins, for 100 guineas a sue,
provided Martin would reduce himself to a cer-
tain weight. Burn teplicd, that it was time
enough to deliver the challenge on this day, when
:he man would be fit to come to Loodon and
answer for himself ; but it was rather quick upon
[lice as yet. match will no doubt be rtnAle.