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London, England, 1820-06-21 00:00:00

WAYS AND :%JEANS.

Mr. lU'OGDFN hroozht ay the Report nn the Ways and
Means. 1. he Neveral Ilev.dutioh: were read and agreed to.

11'.`,;(i'S BENCH PROCEEDINGS BHA,.
The ATTORNIty.-G6NEK AL, moviog that .ti;!*
Douse should go into d Committee on the King's
Bench eroceeditio Bill, stated the general ten-
dency of the measiiie, which he rent diked did not
go to alter the presei!C mode of proceeding, but
to enable two .b14t.4 (wait contemporaneously,
and thus to pave the wey for disputing of that

arrear of causes %villa ',vas now, from the increat ed
business of the Court, a subject of complaint;
Mr. SCABLETT contended, from a comparison .etf the
causes tried in the last ten years, that the number of cartses
had-been diminisked by about -WO iu each year, instc*d of be-
ing increased. He thought the Most obvious oleo sure fur
accomplishing the object of the present Bill wo old hr to
throw open the Court of Exchequer, allow all AI tot neys to
practice in it, anti tints give to the Barons of the. Exchequer
more employment, whilst the labour of the p Cher Judges
would he lessened. If the sixteen Clerks of that Court
should he seriously injured by such an arra Ageutent (and
hr tlift not think the), would - he), be thougt,t it but right
that some compensation should be allowed. - One evil arising
from the provisions of the Bill was, that i oitors.would be
.prevented deriving the hen: fit of any pia-neuter Counsel
whom they might wish to empl-ty. lie be .ievcd this Bill by
no means tort the approbation of the J'atiges. In fact he
could state from personal informal 100. b.+ t Site oft hero would
nut be satisfied with the proposed falter ,itions without com-
pensation ; and this was not a time wl.en the House were
disposed to grant increased salaries in .toy quarter whatever.
He thought the measure now'proposed not calculated to te-
move the difficulties which' had accumilated upon the Court;
and that, as many more liberal and more decisive courses
nyght-he adopted, be should certainly give tins his decided
opposition., •
Mr. IYARREN made a.numericalstatement of the causes in
arrear, and thought that rimy measure tending to lessen the
evil ought to be supported. His Honourable and Learned
Friend (Mr. Scarlett),had said that the method embraced by
the present Bill was not ca'culated to remove it altoge-
ther. ,This might' be title,• hut more extended miasures
might hereafter be proposed. This was only intended to be
temporary; and the only ohjef:t at present was, to apply
bottle immediate remedy to the ins reassng evil. He was
much surprised to hear it stated by his Honourable and
Learned Friend, that the Judges hesitated to agree in the
propriety of this measure unless they received compensa-
tiun by increased salaries. He should have thought them
the very last Welt in thenvurld to have formed such an obj,e.
tiott. With respect to the difficulty of procuring Counsel in
both Courts, he-did no: believe that the Bar had lately been
in such a state that one Counsel only possessed such vast
superiority, such overbearing talent, such a wonderful dis-
play of !worts, as to have all the Attorities in the liingdous
after him. tic considered that all which was contemplated
by the'Bill would be realized.

Mr. LOCKHART did not think that because some incon-
veniencies might be remedied by the, applicat ion of this 111 ed•
sore, yet that it must necessarily be eligible for the adoption
of that House. It was said, that this Bill would only be tem-
parary in its operation, but he was one who did not agree in
the use of these palliatives. The expellers of a cause where-
in 40s. costs was the most that eould be obtained, could only
he equalled by that of a Contested election.—(A laugh j
The strife exhibited by the parties in these tiitting avid frivo-
lous causes was rtally a mockery of justice; aid to remove
siieb causes from the Court would be toe most effective way
of reliesiog the Jtulgest
Mr. CHET W YND said, that considerable time and labour
might -be spared, if the Judges could pass judgment at the
Assizes at the time of trial, instead of dragging defendants up
to the Court of King's Bench for that pinpuse, and not ware-
'quently to the utter ruin of those uotortunate
He trail observed that one-fourth of the time of the Court had
been occupied in certain Terms by passing these judgments.
He thought a clause might be introduced, founded upon this
suggestion.
Mr. DENMAN deprecated any temporary and experimental
course ot judicature. Was the King's Bench the uuly Court
in existence ? Was every cause obliged to be carried into that
Court ? If so, he thought it best that all the twelve Judges
should sit there. •But why were two Courts, the Court of.Ex•
r chequeand the Court of Cotillion) Pleas, comparatively un-
employed ? He considered that the arrears in the Court 4.4
King's Bench, which Werit Id seem to be so formidable, were a
necessary consequence of the 'popularity ot that Court. It
did not prove that legislative interference was called tor; but,
on the contrary, it showed that the Court. worked well, and
ilia good service to the country. Nothing ought to be so
carefully avoided as Lampe; ing with the •constitution of the
highest Lourt in the country. On these grouuds be should
oppose the Bill.
Mr. NOLAN supported the Bill.' The subject :mattes of
the clause mentioned by an lion. and Learned Member, it
brought before the House, ought to be considered sepaiattly
and distincliy upon its own merits. He doubted its practi-
cability, inasmuch as cases of misdemeanour, nuisance, libel,
&c. were all included in its provisions. The Hun. and Learn-
ed Gentleman argued at stone length in support of the Bill,
when Ihe ilitestion was put, and the Gallery cleared for a di-
vision; nut there nut being forty Members present. the
House Adjourned.

LONDON JOURNALS.

FROM THE MORNING PAPERS OF THIS DAY.

[Morning. Chronicle]
THE QUEEN.

Our readers will see from the Documents connected with
the late Negociations, which we this day lay before them,
that the imperfect sketch given by us yesterday was correct
in all essential points. It is true, as we stated, that no very
great difficulty remains to be overcome; that her MAJE::TY
having consented to live abroad, and the KING having con-
sented to her bearing the style and title of Queen, nothing
is left to settle hut some recognition of the obvious in-
dignity of withholding her name from the Liturgy, and of
not insuring her a becoming reception at the Court of
the Country in which she may choose to reside. No im-
partial person who teadsthese Documents, and reflects on
the conduct pursued by Ministers throughout this business,
can avoid feeling indignant at the manner in which they have
acted towards their Sovereign. It is indeed impossible to
conceive a course more calculated to lower the Royal dignity
in the eyes of the people than that which they hare adopted.
They advised that her Majesty's name should be withdrawn
from the Liturgy, they caused her to be insulted abroad, they
threatened her with immediate prosecution the moment she
set her foot on the shores of this country. These threats,
however, produced no other effect on her Majesty, than an
instantaneous determination to set them at defiance, and she
came boldly forward to meet the charges against her, to the
great terror of his Majesty's Ministers. These charges
they dared not to bring forward at once on their own re-
sponsibility, but they produced a Green Bag, with the
view of inducing Committees of Parliament to take upon
themselves the business of accusers. The result might have
been anticipated. The Country Gentlemen did not wish to
relieve Ministers of this load; and thus, after all their de-
tomeiations of guilt—after all their Ahreats,of prosecution,
they were nut only obliged to enter into a Treaty with Her
Majesty, but to-propose terms amounting to a recognition of
her ionocence, and which, if they entertained a contrary eon-
victim), they could not propose consistently with any regard
to the honour and dignity of their Sovereign, and the honour
and dignity of the Country. They have, therefore, either
brought forward these heavy charges against her Majesty
without entertaining a conviction of there being any founda-
tion for them, or entertaining such a conviction, by abandon-
ing them it) the atwitter they have sliewn themselves willing
to do, they do not discharge their duty to his Majesty, or to
the Country. Such is the dilemma into which they have
brought themselves by their rash and precipitate conduct.
We understand, that the subject of the motion of which Mr.
Wilberforce has given notice for this day, is an Address of
Thanks to Her Majesty, for her condescension est meeting
with promptitude the wishes of Parliament, by entering into
itegociations with the King's Ministers, and a Resolution ex-
' pressive of the opinion of the Hose, that the withdrawing her
name trout the Liturgy was t. .)t derogatory to her honour or
dignity.- But will this hnif ritasure satisfy the Nation ? Will
the people reallyiralieva that tin e.,punging the name of the
Queen' of the Couwey from the I.:i.nrey was not derogatory
(rem het- honour 'ibis is au Act of wh.ch, at all events, we
conceite ao, of thir. Church of E!igl,tud in par-

-licularWill think lightly. The law has left no discretion on this
subject; it has directed The Queen. to he prayed for as well as
the King, and the only changes in the Liturgy which arc al-
lowable, are the billing up of one set of names in place of
another. Why bas the law been disobeyed in the case of her
Majesty ? It would be far more becoming in Ministers, hav-
ing abandoned all their charges against her Majesty, to come
forward at once with measures acknowledging the title of the
Queen to the full exercise of her rights and honours. The
petty distinctio►is they afe now endeavouring to draw, will not
blind the country to the consummate folly of their measures,
to the triumph of her Majesty, and the injury they have done
to-the Royal Authority.