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THE SUN, LONDON, THURSDAY EVENING, MARCH 6l 1845.

going into Committee on these two Bills. He said
it would perhaps save trouble if he were to
mention then the ;amendment he wished to propose to
the first Bill. Some difficulty might arise respecting the
manner in which the service of the process ought to be
made, or dishonest persons might serve their own turns
by inducing a foreigner to swear that the service had
been duly and properly effected.—(Hear, hear.)
Now to obviate this he should introduce a clause
providing that the service of a process abroad
should be made either by a British subject
or by a notary public.—();lear, hear.) Before he sat
down he wished to allude to a point connected with the
other Bill. A Noble Duke who was not present—he
meant the Duke of Hamilton, who was the hereditary
keeper of Holyrood House—was extremely anxious to
preserve all the rights and maintain all the privileges of
the place to which he belonged.—(Hear, hear.) The
Noble Duke was apprehensive that this Bill would
interfere with the liberties of that House, but he believed
the Noble Lord on the Woolsack would confirm him in
the statement, that it was impossible that they could at
all be interfered with by that enactment.
Lord BROUGHAM said, the amendment of the Noble
Lord had certainly removed, in a great degree, his ob-
jections to the first measure. The notary publics of
France and Germany were men of high respectability,
whe held responsible offices which were recognised
by the laws and Governments of the two countries.
The circumstances of the case might be quite evident,
their perjury might be quite clear, and yet the know-
ledge of this might not be of the smallest use in the ap-
plication for a writ of error. The judgment, notwith-
standing the knowledge of these facts, would stand. The
service by a notary public in France would be perfectly
satisfactory, though in other countries it might not be
so ; and he thought it would be better to specify in this
Bill in what countries the service was to be by a notary
subject, and in which it should be by a British subject.
In the country where the service was to be by a British
subject, it might come through the instrumentality of a
judge's order. In the islands of Corfu and Zante it was
impossible to depend on the notaries public, and he
thought no better plan could be adopted than to let the
service be proved by the affidavit of a British subject.
He thought the amendment might be introduced in
Committee.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said that he thought it
would be better to see the operation of the Bill in the
details of the Court of Equity.
Lord CAMPBELL asked if his Noble and Learned
Friend would name a day ?
The LORD CHANCELLOR said the first day after
Easter. That, he thought, would be a sufficient time
of ascertaining the operation of this Bill in the Courts
of Equity, and he wished for this time, for he did not
like to legislate in the dark.
Lord ASHBURTON said that he was sorry to say
that the being a British was not a sufficient guarantee
for perfect good faith ; and that, therefore, the better
mode would be, when the notaries 'public were not to
be depended upon, the notice should be served by a
British subject under the supervision of the British
Consul resident in that country.
The LORD CHANCELLOR the put the motion, and
the House went into Committee pro forma on the Com-
mon Law Process Bill ; the Common Law Process
(Ireland) Bill ; and the Court of Session (Soctland)
Bill.

The Earl of SHAFTESBURY reported progress
and obtained leave to sit again on the first day after
Easter.
COMPANY'S CLAUSES CONSOLIDATION BILL,
AND THE COMPANY'S CLAUSES CONSOLI-
DATION (SCOTLAND) BILL.
On the motion of the Duke of BUCCLEUCH these
Bills were read a first time, and were ordered to be
printed.
CONSTABLES (SCOTLAND) BILL.
The House went into Committee on the Constables
(Scotland) Bill, and
On the motion of the Earl of DALHOUSIE, words
were introduced to enable a constable to act in any other
part of a county, as well as in the district to which he
was appointed, but under the direction of the sheriff.
The Bill went through Committee with this amend.
ment, the Earl of SHAFTESBURY reported progress, and
obtained leave to sit again.
Their Lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
RAILWAY CLAUSES CONSOLIDATION BILL.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition.)

which had been, in some instances, in possession
of the old corporations since the time of Elizabeth,
were disgracefully brought to the hammer, and
sold by auction He was happy to see symptoms of a
better taste, and, if the improvement went on, perhaps
the reformed corporations would send their children to
classical schools, where they would become acquainted
with the old verse—
" Ingenues didicisso fideliter artes
Emollit mores, nec sinitesse feros."
—(A laugh.) And perhaps in course of time they would
recover the reputation for hospitality of which the old
corporations ought to be proud.—(Hear and a laugh.)
He could only say that he thought the country was much
indebted to the Hon. Member for Dumfries for the trouble
he had taken on this subject.
• Mr. MARK PHILLIPS thought it was of the utmost
importance that a taste for literature and the arts should
be encouraged in the rising generation ; and he thought
some such proposition as that which had been made by his
Hon. Friend should be adopted by the House. He
(Mr. M. Phillips) hoped that his Hon. Friend would
give sufficient time for discussion of the merits of this
Bill in the country, to prevent any hasty expression of
opinion upon that which was intrinsically good in itself.
He had great pleasure in supporting the introduction of
this Bill. He hoped that, when the Bill would be carried
into operation in large towns, the museums would be
opened at such towns and under such regulations as
would be advantageous to the working classes.
Mr. HUME said he had no doubt of the justice of
the motion of his Hon. Friend, and only wished that it
would be enlarged, in order to give power to the councils
not only to provide museums, but places of recreation for
the people —play-grounds and public walks. The
greatest desire existed among the lower classes to take
advantage of the exhibition of works of art, and he believed
that every Hon. Member would bear testimony to the
propriety with which the humbler classes conducted
themselves on these exhibitions.—(Hear, hear.)
Some years ago Mr. Buckingham had introduced
a Bill which comprehended the provisions of that
which the Hon. Member was about to introduce, and a
great deal more. Ministers should lend all the in-
fluence they possessed for the establishment of
such institutions. They occupied the minds of the
people, refined their taste, and prevented
them from being engaged in bad projects.
He submitted it was a subject well worthy of the atten-
km of the Government, and he was sure, if they would
only consent to adopt it, the step would do them
mere honour than any other measure they could bring
forward.

Mr. BERNAL said the manner in which the Hon.
Member for Dumfries had brought forward the subject
did him great credit; but he trusted the Honourable
Member would not dovetail his plan, but con-
fine himself to one proposition He thought it
was highly gratifying that, so far as they could
learn the outrages which had been committed in public
museums were not perpetrated by any of the labouring
classes of the country. No operative that he was aware of
had been convicted of an offence of this nature, but he be-
lieved the outrages which had been committed were per-
petrated by persons moving in a superior walk of life.
This was the only capital in Europe, he believed, that
was without a museum of art, and when they saw what
was done in a neighbouring country, and the impulse
that had been given to a love of the fine arts by the
King of the French ; he thought that they should stir
themselves to form a museum of art in this
metropolis which would be worthy of the
English nation.—(Hear.) Many of the works of rrt
of the middle ages were going to decay, and he would
implore the Right Hon. Baronet to direct his attention
for the purpose of findidg some means to preserve them .
Sir R. PEEL said that the subject of which the Hon.
Gentleman had alluded, hal not altogether escaped his
attention. But many suggestions of a similar kinds
were made, such of which, individually considered, wa
worthy of public favour, and of those suggestions h
could only select such as appeared to be most im-
portant.