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HOUSE OF COMMONS, June 3.
LONDON AND CROYDON RAILWAY (GRANGE-
- ROAD) APPROACHES.
The Report on this Bill was brought up, and ordered

to be engraossed.
Mr. CLIVE moved the consideration of the Report on
the London and Croydon Railway (Grange-road) Ap-

proaches Bill.
Sir E. KNATCHBULL opposed the bringing up of
the Report, and moved as an amendment that it should
be taken into further consideration that day three months.
Lord MARSHAM seconded the motion of the Right

Hon. Baronet. •
Mr. KEMBLE said he had heard a great deal .about a
breach- •of 'faith on the part of the Croydon Com-
pany, and a variety of other charges against them ;
but he should' not occupy the attention of the
House by alluding to them now, as tho question to
be considered was, whether the forms of the House
had been complied with. He thought that consistently
with the forms of the House, if the Bill had not passed
through the requisite forms, it could not now be
in its present shape.—(Hear, hear.; 'tie facts were
these :—The Croydon Railway originally petitioned
for leave to bring in a Bill, for the purpose of
forming a road. He (Mr. Kemble) was on that Com-
mittee, and the Committee was of opinion that the
question they had to consider was, whether this was
to be a common Road Bill or a Railway Bill ; if a Rail-
way Bill, then the forms of the Howe had net been cent-
plied with ; and they considered, inasmuch as the word
depot had been introduced, it must be a railway. The
Croydon Company appealed to the Committee of Stand-
ing Orders, when the former decision was confirmed.
He then brought in another Bill—that Bill had
been acceded to, and was now in the condition in
which it appeared before the House. From a paper
which he held in his hand, it appeared that the Green-
wich Railway Company Here of opinion that it was
the intention, and within the power of this Com-
pany, to use the land they required under the
Bill for a railway or a depot, but as they said it wus
only for a road that they went before the Committee,
the Greenwich Company did not see any grounds for op-
posing them there. He should like to know what
grounds they had now ? It was the instruction
of his lion. Friend on his right, at the third
reading of the Bill, to introduce a clause to pre-
vent them making this road into a railway. They
had been told by eminent counsel that they could not
make it into a railroad, and they bad no intention of
doing so ;.they bad no objection, therefore, to the intro-
duction of a clause to let the House understand that they
had no power or desire to make anything but a road.
Under these circumstances he should certainly oppose the
motion of the Right lion. Gentleman. He trusted the
House would support the Bill, and, if a division took
place, that a 'large majority would appear in its favour.
Mr. STRUTT said, that as Chairman of the Coin-
mittee which recommended the House to grant per-
mission to the Committee to introduce their Bill,
he wished to say a few words. If the Com-
mittee had supposed that such clauses as appeared
in the Bill were-intended •to have. been introduced,
they never would have recommended the House to
grant permission for its introduction. It was under-
stood that this was to be a mere Road Bill for the access
of carriages and carts to the terminus of the railway,
but as clauses were proposed to erect bridges, and
otherwise level the roads, it appeared that a railway
was contemplated. Had the Committee been aware of
this they certainly would not have made the recommen-
dation they did. If the House allowed this Bill
to pass, it would be setting a dangerous precedent in
allowing clauses to be introduced into a Road Bill for the
construction of a railway. He must say that it appeared
to him that these parties had not adhered to the original
Bill for which alone they received the indulgence of the
House in being allowed to introduce it. Under these
circumstances, he felt it his duty to support the motion,
of the Right Hon. Baronet.
Mr. DARBY considered that the opposition to this
Bill by the Greenwich Railway Company, was for the
purpose of establishing a monopoly on their own parts.
If the House rejected this Bill, it would in fact be decid-
ing that no person should come to London by railway
from Dover, Tunbridge, Croydon, or Brighton, except
by the Greenwich line.
Mr. WILSON PATTEN would, on the third reading
of the Bill, move the insertion of a clause prohibiting
the Company from laying down rails on this line of road
without again applying to Parliament.
Mr. CHILDERS objected to the introduction of any
provisions into this Bill, enabling the Company to make
preparations for turning it into a, railroad at some future
period: If a west-end terminus for the Croydon Rail-
way were desirable, let the Company bring in a Bill for
that purpose ; but the terminus of the proposed road
was quite as far from Westminster Bridge as the pre-
sent terminus. ' •
WATERFORD' ELECTION COMMITTEE.

It, being now nearly five o'clock. the names of the
Members chosen to serve on the Waterford Election
Committee were called over as follows :—J. Jervis, Esq.,
Captain Boldero, Admiral Deans Pandas, E. U. A'Court,
Esq., J. H. Vivian, Esq., Viscount Somerton, J. W.
Hogg, Esq., Chairman.
When the Hon. Members came to the table to be
sworn, it was discovered that Viscount Somerton was
absent. The other Members then withdrew from the
table.

ATHLONE -ELECTION -GOMMITTtE.
The-following Members were then called to.the table,
to be sworn in, to serve on the Athlone Election Com-
mittee :—the Hon. G. C. Forester, Sir B. Hall, B.
Bottield, Esq., Captain Pechell, J. llornby, Esq., Sir
James Duke, E. Divett, Esq., Chairman.
Sir James Duke not appearing to answer to his rame,
Lord GRANVILLE SOMERSET said, he under-
stood that Sir James Duke was suffering from severe
indisposition, and that his medical man was in attendance
to be examined. He therefore moved that the medical
man be called in.—Agreed to.
The motion having been agreed to, Mr. J. Bainbridge,
the-medical gentleman in attendance on Sir J. Duke,
was then called in, and in answer to questions from the
SPEAKER, stated that Sir J. Duke was at present very
ill, though not dangerously so; that he thought it would
be dangerous for him to attend an Election. Committee,
as he was suffering from a sore throat, which he was ap-
prehensive might turn into scarlet fever. He had. gone
out of doors yesterday, but he was not so well teklay..
The witness was ordered to withdraw, and
On the motion of Lord GRAN VILLE SOMERSET,
the order for the Comthittee was discharged, to be re-
ferred back. to the Committee of Selection, on their first
day of meeting (Monday next).
WATERFORD COMMITTEE.

The Members composing the Waterford Committee-
were again called to the table, and Viscount Somertm
being still absent,
Lord G. SOMERSET moved, that the Sergettnt-at-
Arms be ordered to take the Noble Viscount into
custody.—Agreed to.
CROYDON RAILWAY BILL.

The debate on the Croydon Railway was then re-
sumed.

Mr. ESCOTT complained that the Standing Orders
were not complied with in the present case.
Mr. RICE said that the main object for which the
House had to consult, was the convenience of the public.
That was an object much more important than the
squabbles•of railroad companies. •
Mr. ATTWOOD would vote for stopping the further
progress of the Bill.
Mr. GREENE opposed the Bill.
The House then divided, when there appeared,—
For the reception of the Report 'BB •
For the amendment l4B
Majority for the amendment.— —6O
ORMSBY INCLOSURE BILL.

A Conference was appointed to consult with the Lords
respecting certain amendments introduced by their
Lordships on the Ormsby Inclosure Bill. Mr. Hume,
who conducted the Conference on the part of the Com-
mons, informed the House that the other House of Par-
liament insisted on the amendments which they had
adopted.
SUNDERLAND ELECTION.

The SPEAKER informed the House that he had re-
ceived a notice from the agent on behalf of the peti-
tioners against the return for Sunderland, that it was not
their intention to proceed with the petition.