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PROTECTION TO HER MAJESTY.

The message from the Commons announced that they
had agresd to the amendmonts to the Bill entitled " Au
Act for further providing for the security and protection
of her Majesty." The message also- brought up, the
Military- Savings Bank Bill, Witnesses Indemnity Bill,
and a variety of other Bills.

Lord MO-NTEAG LE continued—When Sir Robert
Peel was Secretary for Ireland, he recoil' vended the
necessity of bringing together all classes of the cmitnu-
nity in one common school. Many of the Noble Lords
who were in favour of this double education, complained
of the College of Maynooth ; but what would they say
if every one of the schools now in existence should be-
come a little Maynooth ? He was strongly of opinion
that no grant should be allowed towards the establish-
ment of these schools, as the present national schools
were open alike to Protestants and Catholics.
The Archbishop of ARMAGH stated that the reading
of the Scriptures was forbidden in the national schools
in Ireland, and that was a strong reason why Protest-
ants objected to send their children to those schools.
They did not mix at all. In Armagh there was one
Protestant and one Roman Catholic national school ;
in Drogheda there were five national schools, and there
was not a single Protestant at one of them. Ho did
not know what the Protestant religion had done that
they should not have Protestant schools in Ireland ; and
he did hope that the Government would take measures
to establish Protestant. schools in that country.
The Earl of WICKLOW supported the prayer of the
petition. He was firmly convinced that the present sys-
tem would nut afford a united education, which was in-
tended should be the case when the schools were esta-
blished.

The Earl of CLONCURRY explained.
The Bishop of NORWICH was of opinion that there
was a fallacy in the statement of his Right Reverend
Friend that the Scriptures were not admitted into the
national schools in Ireland. :He had carefully examined
the books used in the schools in Ireland and England,
and lie believed as large a portion of the Scriptures was
to be found in use in the Irish as could be in the English
national schools.
NEW SOUTH WALES BILL. •

The Duke of BUCCLEUCH rose to move the second
reading of this Bill, and, in doing so. he should trouble
their Lordships with • a very few observations on the
nature of it. The Noble Duke went into lengthened
details of the progress' of the colony in population and
wealth, from which he contended that it was
entitled to, and that its necessities required a
legislature for local affairs, with power to make laws
not contrary to the laws of England.—(Hear.)
The Noble Duke having given an outline of the proposed
Constitution, the greater part of the details of which had
been taken from the Canada Act, recently passed, moved
that the Bill be real a second time.

Lord MONTEAGLE said, the Bill had been recom-
mended by Sir Richard Bourke, who had for so many
years governed the colony in a manlier which reflected
the highest honour on him, and was, therefue, entitled
to the greatest attention. He trusted that the system of
emigration would attract the particular attention of the
Government. The manufacturing population constituted
a most valuable class of emigrants. He congratulated
the colony of New South Val' s upon the introduction
of this measure.

The Earl of RIPON was glad to hear that his Noble
Friend approved of the Bill before the House, which ho
(Lord Ripon) concurred with him would be of the
greatest benefit to that great colony. The emigration
was annually increasing..
After a few words from the Duke of BUCCLEUCH in
reply, and Lord MONTEJ.GLE in explanation, the Bill
was read a second time.
MINES AND COLLIERN:S BILL.

The Marquis of LONDONDERRY presented eight
petitions from the parish of Dean, in the county of
Lancashire, praying that the age of ten might be sub-
stituted for fifteen as the acre under which boys should
not be permitted to work in the mines.
SUDBURY DISFRANCHISEMENT BILL.

The. Marquis of CI#A.NRJCARDE gave notice that
he should move the second 'reading of this Bill on
Friday next,
• MINES AND COLLIERIES BILL.

The House went into Committee on this Bill.

The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said as it was
his desire to gain time, and he had been told that this
Bill should be re-committed, he should move the ad-
journment of the House.
Lord HATHERTON did not object to the adjourn.
ment.

The Earl of DEVON did not object. The Bill passed
through Committee pro forma, and was ordered to be
re-committed on Tuesday next.
CIIARITABLE PAWN-OFFICES (IRELAND)

BILL.
This Bill was ordered to be read a third time on Tues-
day next.
The other Bills on the tahie were forwaraed a stitgef
and their Lordships adjourned at Eight &C lock,

_MOUSE OP COMMONS', fdq 15

The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usu hour.

Mr. M. GIBSON presented a petition from the shop-
keepers of Matichester, cOMplainitig of the loss of their
trade, and praying the House to pass such measufe3 as
would afford immediate and permanent relief..
Mr. PLUMPTRE presented petition§ frUni Staopi and
other places, praying tile tintisn not to make any further
grant to the College of Maynooth.
Sir H. DOUGLAS presented a petition from the to
bacconists of Liverpool, against the Tobacco bill.
Mr. LABOUCHERE presented a petition from the
members of a congregation of Protestant Dissenters, as-
sembling in Tuxford, Cambridgeshire, in favour of the
Affirmation Bill.
Colonel T. WOOD presented a petition praying the
House to abolish the tolls for the several bridges►

Mr. EWART gave notice that on Thursday he would
move for a copy of certain correspondence` with the
Board of Trade relative to the effect of admitting
Brazilian sugar.
Mr. HUME. gave notice that he would, on Monday,
on the motion for the Speaker leaving the Chair, move
for a return of promotions in the Navy, including Ad-
mirals, Captains, and Officers of every rank, since the
29th of June, 1838, being a continuation of former
returns.

THE TARIFF—CEMENT STONE.
Mr. LABOUCI-lERE said he might be allowed to
take that opportunity of putting a question to the Right
Hon. Gentleman the Vice-President of the Board of
Trade, on a subject to which he had already called hi,,
attention—he alluded to the export duty upon cement
stone. The effect of the alteration made by the tariff
would be to destroy a trade which gave employment to a
vast number of industrious per •ons. He wished
to know whether the Right Honourable Gentleman
had made those returns which he had promised
on the , subject ; and also whether he proposed
to adopt any measure for remedying the grievance.
There was another point to which he also wished to
call the Right Hon. Gentleman's attention, namely,
whether, in case he should be satisfied that it was proper
to alter the existing duty, it would not be expedient to
advise the Treasury to take stops to provide tha' the
trade. .houlcl
M T. r. GA.OSTONE ;i!1,1 the case to-which -the •RiT,“
G,othnoan Wa3 a Very . ,
inasmuch as the proposal to lay a duty upon the article I

,if cemented stone, was printed and on the table of the
douse three months, without its attracting- the notice
,ither of any Mentlar connected with that part of Lri.•
!vuntry where the trade was carried on, or of any
Nlember interested it tl-w trade it,elf.---(Hear.)
:nentioned this because it afforded a justification for
re-opening the question of duty immediately after it
had _been decided by the House .of Commons. On
the very day after the passing of the Bill, reps,-
sentations were made on the subject by the parties
Nhose interests were at stake. He would .propos.;
;he removal of the export duty on cement stones.
As to another part of the question, with regard to the
interval between the present period and the pa .sing of
the amendment Bill, he wished to explain that at pre-
sent it would be undesirable to interrupt the t race. The
calamity which befel Harnbur:2•,h had occasioned a
greater demand for cement stone, and large quantities of
it were ready for export in• the port of Harwich.
They had, therefore, anticipated the suggestion of the
Right Hon. Gentleman, and he would now move that
the House resolve itself into—a Committee of the whole
House ; and would, with its permission, now move
a general resolution, " That leave be given to bring in
a Bill to amend the law relating to the Customs Act."

On the question beingzait,
Mr. HUMS wished to know from the Right Hon.
Gentleman, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, what
was the amount of gold and silver coin issued by the
Mint since the issuing of the proclamation.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER wished
(as we understood) the Honourable Member to defer
his question.
Mr. Ht; ME consented.
Mr. B. WOOD suggested to the Right Hon. Gentlt -
man, the Vice-President of the Board of Trade, the ex-
pediency of including China plate with cement stone.
Mr. GLADSTONE saiJ that when the House wilt
into Committee the Hon. Gentleman could make a pro-
position to that effect, but he (Mr. Gladstone) would
give it his opposition, the House having already come to
a decision on the subject.
The House then went into Committee.
Mr. LABOU'_;HERE would warn the Right Hon.
Gentleman against the re-opening of this question.
He would refer him to the consequences which had
resulted to Sicily from their having imposed an export
duty on sulphur. Mines of sulphur had been discovered
in Ireland. He knew of a very respectable house in Glas-
gow employed in the manufacture of chemicals, and one of
the firm said to him (Mr. Labouchere) it was now their
intention to take half ti.eir sulphhr from Ireland and
half from Sicily.
Lord HOWICK expressed his entire concurrence in
what had fallen from the Right Hun. Gentleman. The
argument particularly applied to the recently imposed
export duty on coals. The effect ef that had been to
diminish the employment of labour in the collieries in that
district, already suffering severe distress.
After a few words from Mr. B. WOOD, the resolu-
tion was agreed to, and reported to the House.
Leave was then given to bring in the Bill.
CAPTAIN WARNER'S INVENTION.
_ . .

Sir F. BURDETT gave notice of his intention, on
Monday, to bring forward the case of Capt. Warner.
GOLD COINAGE.

On the motion for going into Committee of Supply.
Mr. CHARLES WOOD said he had given notice of
his intention to put a question to the First Lord of .he
Treasury, upon going into Commiztee of Supply, concern-
' ins, the gold coinage ; but, as the Right Hon. Baronet was
absent, perhaps the Chancellor of the Exchequer would give
him an answer. It was a subject of considerable im•
portance to the country. It would not be necessary to
call to the recollection of the House the late pro-
clamation concerning the coinage. He thought
the Government pursued a sight course, but he be-
lieved that a great portion of the alarm and loss
occasioned by it had been canned by the
suddenness of the act. He (Mr. Wood) did not know
what was the stare of the law previous to the year 1774,
but, since that period a law had been passed declaring
that all persons had power to cut and deface light
gold. In consequence of that a proclamation was issued
in 1776, declaring the weight of a guinea. The conse-
quence of this was that there were very few
light guineas in circulation, as the moment they
were tendered they were marked. In the year 1797
no less than 17,000,0001. were taken to the Bank of Eng-
land. At the present time, the state of the law was not
rightly understood. He did-not know if the Act had been
repealed empowering persons to deface aid cut the gold
coin. The question he wished to put was, whether it was
in the power of any person at the present time to cut gold
coin, and if there was any doubt on the subject, whether
the Government was prepared to pass an Act empower-
ing persons so to do. It would certainly have the
effect of keeping coin the proper weight.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
perfectly agreed with the -Hon. Gentleman that such a step
was necessary, but there was a difference of opinion as to
the existing law. There were two Acts passed, the one
in 1773, the other in 1774, the former empowering
persons to Cut and deface eoin reduced in weight.
The other Act was for enabling persons to cut
coin which was counterfeit. This last Act was re-
pealed by:the 4th Will. IV., excepting one clause. He
could not give the Hon. Gentle Man an answer, as the
subject was under the consideration of those who were
enabled to form an opinion on the subject.