The Sun.
London, England, 1829-03-21 00:00:00

GAME LAWS.

The Caine Laws' Amendment Bill went through a
Committee, and the Report was ordered to be taken into
further consideration on Friday next. _ _

The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of,
and the House !Idiom-14, till Monday, at flalf-past
Twelve o'Clock,

MINORITY
OF THE SEVENTEEN WHO voun AGAINST TII
THE BILL. FOR DISFRANCHISING THE FI
HOLDERS IN IRELAND.-51IRCH 19.
Bankes, 11. French, Arthur Uxbridge, Earl otl
Bentinck, Lord G. Grattan, Henry Warrender, itt. lin.
Bryan, 'l'. Hume, Joseph Sir G.
ItrA. Lambert, J. S. Westenra, Hon. 11.
nt„ 'W. Hon. J. TELLERS.
r..4leollit, Ir. G. B. Palmersto*, Visc. Lennox, Lord J. G.
Vane, J. fownbherid, Lord C. 'Brant, W. H.
•

IE SECOND READING OF
',MTV-SHILLING ?HEE-

The name of Mr. Capel, M.P. for Queen-
borough, was omitted in the list of the minority on the
Catholic Relief Bill

The Solicitor-General transacted business
yesterday at the Colonial.office.

Yesterday a ballot was taken at the East India
House, for the election of a Director in the room of Sir G.
Abercrombie Robinson, Bart. who had disqualified. At
six o'clocli the glasses were closed and delivered to the scru-
tineers who reported the election to have fallen on Lieut. -
Col. Sir Win. Young, Bart.

The Princess Borghese (Buonaparte's sister),
who was no saint, sat to Canova for a model, and being
asked " if she did not feel a little uncomfortable," answered
" No, there was a fire in the room."

Garrick's Shaksperian chair, which was pur-
chased by Mr. Rowland Stephenson in 1823 for 145/. Ss.
iTias'yesterday sold by auction to Mr. Firth, a merchant,
for 106

The averages of corn are vain PllSideralily
and next week it is it will he
lower. The duty on wheat iy .Ivftnced
as we 4nticipted,per quarter,
3s. more.

CRANIOLOGY IN 1658.—Dant's characters
are to he found in skulls as well as faces. Hercules it not
only known by his foot ; other parts make out their com-
propoitiong and inferences upon whole or parts. And
since the dimensions of the head measures the whole body,
and the c r.:l re thereof gives conjecture of the principal
pliognoipy p:4lives ourselves and ends not in our
grave.—Sir I liomas-./ircvng Pn Vrn puria

LONDON,
SATURDAY UNING, MARCH 21, 1829.

A duel took place early this morning in Battersea-
fields, between his Grace the Duke of WELLINGTON

and the Earl of WINCHILSEA. It is reported that

.he duel originated in a letter written by the Earl

lust night to the Duke, on a subject connected with

the important question now in progress through
Parliament. Sir H. HARDINGE was the Duke's
secona, and the Earl of FALMOUTII was Lotd
WINCUILSEA'S, who, instead of returaing the Duke's
fire, dischargod his pistol in the air. His Grace
was seen riding through the Horse-Guards at six
o'clock this morning, and returned to Downing-
street at eight,

In another part of our columns will be found some
account of the great Surrey Meeting that takes
place this day, on the subject of that all-en-
grossing topic the Catholic Question. As the
Meeting is not yet over, we forbear all comment
upon it, further than to observe, that Mr. MILNE
SUMNER, has again ventured to put himself for-
ward, and in a way that argues better for his zeal
than his discretion. We shall give the close in a
Second Edition.

On Mr. PEEL'S motion last night for the House
to resolve itself into a Committee on the Irish Free-
holders' Disfranchisement Bill, Lord DUNCANNON,
after a sweeping statement that the effect of the mea-
sure would be to disfranchise all the constituency of
Ireland except the Protestant Clergymen, moved
" that it be an instruction to the Committee upon the
' Qualification of Freeholders' Bill,' to give power ap-
plicable to the due exercise of the Elective Franchise
in Ireland, by regulating the Forty-shilling Votes, pre-
venting fraudulent and fictitious registrations, and
prescribing to the people of Ireland the right of
voting for Members of Parliament, as by law esta-
blished." On this amendment an animated discus-
sion took place; in the course of which Sir FRANCIS
BURDETT stated that he should support the original
motion, on the ground of its being an act of justice
to all parties. Mr. TUITE also observed that a
County Meeting bad lately been held in Westmeath,
where the general opinion was strongly in favour of
the alteration of the Elective Franchise. This
Meeting was composed of the most respectable
• Catholics and Protestants, as well as of a vast num-
, her of the Freeholders from every part of the county,
and forms therefore, as the lion. Member justly re-
marked, " a fair criterion by which to judge of the
Catholic Freeholders generally." It should be re-
membered in addition, that Westmeath has long
been one of the most disturbed and dissatisfied dis-
tricts in all Ireland, consequently its acquiescence in
the proposed measure, cannot but be looked on as
one of the favourable " signs of the times," with re-
gard to the healing influence of the great Question.
Lord DpNND's Amendment was lost by a ma-
jority of two hundred

We received this morning Frankfort Papers to
the lsth instant, from which we give the following

extracts :

MUNICH, MARCH 9.

Lola Erbkine, Minister of England to our Court, has
been seriously ill for some days. However, a crisis has

taken place to-day, which gives reason to hope that he
will soon be better.

maw, MARCH 3.

Acco►ding to letters from Constantinople, it seems that
an erroneous opinion had been entertained of the merit of
lazed Mehemed, thelate Grand Vizier ; he had, they say,
nothing to recommend him but a dignified deportment
and talent for intrigue. His incapacity for the important
post which had been entrusted to him, could not
long remain concealed at a moment so critical for
the empire ; and it was soon perceived that it was
necessary to give him a successor, who, to the
advantage of experience should add that of possessing the
esteem of the public. Redachid Paella, the pi esent Grand
Vizier, is considered as a man of merit, who has given
proofs of courage and talents, and enjoys the confidence of
the Sultan and the attachment of the army. It is affirmed
that he is a friend of Jussuf Paella's, who has been so cried
down for the surrender of Varna, that he has already some
time ago undertaken to justify him, and to convince the
Sultan that Jussuf Pacha had faithfully performed his duty,
and was by no means guilty of treason. The letters from
Odessa agree in this assertion, saying that Jussuf Pacha
frequently writes to Constantinople and receives answers
to his letters, that be has succeeded in justifying himself to
the Sultan, and would return to his country if the Russian
Government would give him permission.
FRANKPORT, MARCH 13.
_ _

The Nodlieru Bee contains a letter, dated Kisehentff,
Feb. 9, written by Prince D., which gives a description
of the winter-quarters occupied by the Russians on the
right bank of the Danube. The troops, says the Prince,
enjoy remarkably good health, are in warm and conve-
nient quarters either in houses or in barracks, and have
an abundant supply of provisions. At Pravadi 500 or
600 houses are occupied by the troops, the mosques arc
converted into magazines, and the churches handsomely
fitted up and adorned with images of the Saints which were
found buried in the ground where they were probably
deposited in former times by the Christian inhabitant..
Varna is now a complete and very strong fortress, and
Bazardjik has been so fortified that it would have nothing
to fear from the attacks of 30,000 men.

By his Majesty's brig Spey a mail has been this
morning received from Mexico—sailed from Vera
Cruz Feb. 7, and from the Havannah Feb. 19.
he Papers from the former port are of the Gth, and
from Mexico of the 31st Jan. ; but contain little in-
telligence of importance. The affairs of the country
appear to be still in considerable confusion : Congress
was deliberating on the subject. Some disturbances
had taken place on the 29th Jan., among the partisans
of SANTA ANNA, at Sonbucte, where they committed
great excesses and plunder. On the 3tl Feb.
SANTA ANNA was at Jalapa, and made an address
to the division of his army, calling on their pa-.
triotistn for support. The receipts for a month at
the Custom-house at Vera Cruz amounted to-
-700,000 dollars ; but, after all, the balance remain-
ing in the Treasury amounted, however, only to
6,000. From the general complexion of these
Papers, it would appear there were various parties
in Mexico, each acting for the aggrandisement of
their separate interests, without reference to the
benefit of the country, the Government was in the
utmost destitution for want of money to discharge
its necessary expenses, and the pay of the troops.

SIIIPPING INTELLIGENCE-(THIS DAY.)

FROM LLOYD'S.

DEAL, MARCH 20.--Wind W.S.W.--Arrived the
Berwickshire, and Duchess of Athol, from India, and
proceeded for the River. Arrived the Isabella, Wild-
goose, from Demerara ; Victory, from India ; and Fame,
Buller, from the Mauritius. The Dunira, from China,
and Mangles, from Calcutta, are passing.
PLTDIOTJTH, MARCH 19.—Wind S.—Arrived the Mal-
vine, Mitchell, from Gijon.

PORTSMOUTH, MARCH 20.—Wind S.S.W..—Arrived
the Active transport, from Ascension the 19th January.

FALMOUTH, MARCH 19.—Wind S.S.W. to S.S.E.—
Arrived the Annabella, Helyr, from Cette ; Diligence,
Hodge, from St. Michael's ; Princess Elizabeth packet,
from the Leeward Islands, sailed the 9th of February ;
Spey packet, from Tampico, sailed the 29th of January,
Vera Cruz the 7th of February, and h tvannah the 19th ;
and Duke of York packet, from the Mediterranean.
LIVERPOOL, Maacn 19.—Arrived the John Jay,
Holdridge, from New York ; Oliver, Blanchard, from
Sicily ; Elizabeth, Harrison, from Bilboa ; Paragon, from
Jamaica ; and Caledonia, from New York. The Albion,
from Bengal, has arrived off Holyhead.
DARTMOUTH, MARCH 19.—Arrived the Hebe, Field,
from Port-au-Prince; and Little Catherine, from Corfu.
Itatsvor., Maacx 20.—Arrived the Laura, Hayes,
from Lisbon ; and Liberty and Barbara, from Bilboa.

The Agincourt, Harr;s, from Bristol to Nevis, struck
on a reef, near Antigua, the 29th of January, and bilged,
and was afterwards totally destroyed with her cargo, in
consequence of some lime having ignited; the crew and
passengers saved.

TIT FUNDS.-(THIS DAY.)

CIT Y, Twirira o' CLoer.

We have advices this morning from the Mauritius to
the 28th December, but they contain no intelligence.
By a Mexican Mail which left Vera Cruz the '7th of Feb.
we learn that the country continued in a state of anarchy,
and fears were entertained that fresh outrages would break
out in the capital; upon the whole the news is of a very
discouraging nature to the well wishers of this interesting
country. Consols opened at 87 for raoney, and 874 i
for account, and such has been the apathy that has attended
the market that no variation has taken place up to the
above hour. India Bonds are 47 9 pm. ; and Exchequer
Bills, 54 5 p►n.
Nothing has taken place in the Foreign Market to
vary the state of these securities, and prices are nearly
nominal at the undermentioned quotations.
In tl►e Share speculations nothing has occurred worthy
of notice.

In the City it was rumoured that a duel had taken
place this morning between a certain high Military elm,
racter in his Majesty's Council and an opponent to the
Catholic claims ; for a moment it attracted attention, and
is said to have ended without injury to either party.
Three per Cent. Consols, 87 ; Ditto, for Account,
11
871 ; Four per Cent., 101 l n India Bonds, 47 9 pm. ;
Exchequer Bills, 54 5 pm.

TR 0 O'CLOCK.

Consols for Account have been 87 I, but the price
for Money has not been lower than 87i, ; the price for
Account is again 871 t. Mexican Six per Cents. 22
31 ; Portuguese 43i i; Real del Monte Shares have
improved to 130 135 per share.

THREE O' CLOCK
Consols for Account, 87k I.
FOUR O'CLOCK.—CLOSING PRICES.
Consols 871 Danish 64!
Do. for Ac. 871 Greek, 1825
Brazilian Bonds 60k Mexican, 1825 22i
Buenos Ayres Peruvian 13
Chilian Do. Russian 94}
Columbian, 1824 Spanish 91

LAW INTELLIGENCE.-(THIS DAY.)

COURT OF CHANCERY.

The LORD CHANCELLOR, in consequence, we un-
destand, of public business requiring his Lordship's
attendance elsewhere, was prevented from sitting in
Lincoln's Inn-hall, to-day.

The Duke and Duchess of Clarence dined
with the Princess Augusta yesterday, at her residence in
the King's Palace, St. James's.

The Duchess of Gloucester, and a select party,
dined with the Princess Augusta on Thursday.

Lord Francis Gower, the Secretary of State
for Ireland, was attendance at the office during the
Council,

Prince Polignac, the French Ambassador, had
a conference with the F.ar•l of Aberdeen yesterday, at the
office of the Secretary ot• State for Foreign Affairs.

Mr. Secretary Peel, the Chancellor of the
Exchequer, and Sir Henry Ilardinge, had interviews with
the Duke of Wellington yesterday at the Treasury.

EPSOM-(THIS DAY).

BY EXPRESS.

At half-past twelve o'clock this day, the Meeting of,cll/
County of Surrey, in pursuance of the -requisition to-tlll
High She-iff, signed by Lord Grantley, Mr. C.' Is..PS
mer, and others, took place in the area in front or I,e
Spread Eagle Tavern, Epsom, (Faux Laila 1016: E, Esq.) P.
High Sheriff in the Chair. Up to eleven o'clock
morning there was very little bustle. There was, Joist'
ever, a plentiful supply of theological ammunition for hot'
tile controversy ; the walls were placarded with bills 010
kinds, and there was a duodecimo edition fur die
tribution, by hand ; on the "No Popery" side wer°
emblazoned placards, headed " Queen lltlary's" Days,
with illustrations of the barbarous cruelties; which• pro.
faned the name of religion in the fifteenth and sixteenth
centuries, beginning with the genealogy of Queen IlarY,
her march of bigotry, her btirnings in Smithfield apd
Shoreditch, followed up by particular .representations. R 1
the martyrdom of individuals in various parts of the rotor
try. This publication emanated from the Religious Tract
Society, printed, No. 56, Paternoster-row; but
enough, after these horrid illustrations, adding the,
words :—" There is no room to relate further 'particulso
in this paper, but the reader will find a fuller account
work called the Days or QUEEN Meat, published:byoo
Religious Tract Society."
And ooncluding thus:
"Reader !—Let the history of these Martyrs of Jess!
Christ, who ' counted not their lives dear unto theft),
affect thine heart. Is thy faith like theirs, fixed tirmly'os
the one Mediator between Owl and man, the 1110
Christ Jesus, who gave himself a ransom ler all
(1 Tim. ii. 5,6.) Dost thou believe on Him with all
thine heart, and account all things but lose fur the excel'
lency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus? • This' faith es!
bear the fiery trial,' and will ever come forth like PI"
seventimes purified. Wherefore, seeing we also are corn'
passed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us Jai
aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily brie
us ; and let us run with patience the race that is set be-
fore us, looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher'of our
faith.'—(Heb. xii. 1,2.) Remembering it is written,
that God is faithful by whom we were called unto dr!
fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.--(Cut. i. 0;.)
At the same side of the question was a little poetry, with
a sort of parody upon the fable of the Sheep and tll6
Wolves. It was—

THE FABLE OF TILE SHEET ♦ND THE WOLVES El'

EMPLI?IED.
A careful shepherd had a flock
Of thriving sheep—his only stock;
Their pasture he with walls surrounded,
As wolves throughout the land abounded.
Great were his pains, his labour long,
To make the barrier high and strong ;
Yet often as he went to sleep,
The wolves broke in and slew the sheep.
At last lie finds his work complete ;
No entrance left but at the gate ;
His flock protected and at peace,
Began to flourish and increase;
Till full of years and honest pride
At his success—the shepherd died.
A son succeeded, mild and kind,
Of liberal and gentle mind,
Who wish'd indeed to save the sheep,
And yet the wolves in humour keep.
Ilim the submissive brutes petition.
To pity their forlorn condition,
Of their primaeval rights denuded,
And from the pasturage excluded.
They vow'd—they swore—their alter'd mind
To sheep had long become' so kind,
They would not put a tooth or foot on
The choicest, fattest leg of mutton,
Their ancestors they all confessed,
Of harsher noticing were possessed ;
Had often broke the shepherd's wall,
And made the sheep in thousands fall ;
Spread death and desolation round,
And stain'd with blood the blushing ground;
But they—kind souls—had othei kidneys,
As noble as Sir Philip Sidney's ; • •
Mild as Melancthen—they would keep,
And help to feed this flock of sheep.
The shepherd fearing such a trial,
Was resolute inhis denial :
•
Till by false friends extremely puzzled,
He let the wolves in strongly muzzled ;
Pared from each fliot was every claw,
And twenty straps bound up each jaw ;
Each wolf was forced an oath to pass,
He would eat nothing there but grass.
The wall was levell'd, and the meeting • '
'Twixt wolves and sheep was grac'd with greeting;
One would suppose through all the plain,
The golden age was come again ;'
Sheep joined with wolf, hard names to call
The builders of the levell'd wall.
A few bold watchmen dared to cry
Against this frightful novelty,
And said, it soon would come to pass,
That wolves would think all flesh is grass,
And in their plenitude of power,
The silly, feeble sheep devour.—
These warnings all are giv'n in vain,
Within the fold the wolves remain.
The watchmen meet contempt and hate,
As born " two hundred years too late."
Vile bigots, who for private ends,
Would disunite the new made friends.
Meantime the claws which had been cut,
Grew strong and sharp on every foot
Some of the straps are old or worn,
And others from the muzzle torn ;
Slender and few those that remain,
Give tenfold discontent and pain,
Till as an useless galling "brand,"
They're all drawn off with gentle hand.
Then starts the shepherd as from sleep,
Resolv'd to save the trembling sheep,;
Suspicion shows, and late takes care,
New straps and muzzles to prepare:
But vain is all precaution now, •
The grim wolf knits his horrid brow ;
The muzzle he rejects with scorn—
And on that melancholy morn, •
Destruction rages through the fold,
The sheep are slaughtered young and old ;
In vain for help the shepherd cries,
Amidst his butchered flock he dies,
And curses in his hapless fall,
The day he moved his father's
ANSWER OF GEORGE THE THIRD TO LORD

GRENVILLE,
WHEN APPLIED TO ON THE CATHOLIC BILL, MARCH, 1807.
"My Lord,—l am one of those that respect an Oath.
I have firmness sufficient to Quit my Throne and retire
to a Cottage ; or to place my neck upon a block on e
scaffold, if my people require it; but I have not resolution
enough to break an Oath—an Oath I took in the Ws*
solemn manner at my Coronation."
God grant that GEORGE THE FOURTH, and all
his Successors, may follow the noble example of his
trious and venerable Father !
Notwithstanding all these elements of evitgment, 4P4
that this was the market-day at Qroyil4p, lingstoo,
Guildford, and other places, and that there can bp po
citement in the county of Surrey, or the people Ivo"
pour in from these places—the three first of them being
the largest market towns in the county—there was 0°
crowd beyond the ordinary throng of idlers that the little
town itself could furnish.
On the other side of the question were placed placard,
descriptive of more liberal and enlightened sentiments; for
instance, a copy of the speech of Dr. Chilmers, delivered
at the Meeting at Edinburgh, which appeared in The Su°
of Tuesday last, as well as extracts from the recent speeebe:
of Sir F. Burdett, Mr. Peel and Lord Punkett ; intermise"
with these were the resolutions of the Corporation of Dule,
imputing to the Catholics the "deliberate and c01e1,44 ?1,11
murders" of the Protestants, and itpplititie" c6afirtily and
pocillafing condns; of his McijesYY's lifen4fers.!' There
were alat? some doggerel rhypites nude! the title—"l"-
testants, awake -as well as some other doggerels under
the title of the f' Wild Irish Howl," to which was ar
pended the following note
" A POPISH OATH."
"In the rebellion in Ireland, in 1798, the followinf
truly Christian oath was administered to the miserable
norant rabble, by their priests :—' I, A. I 3 , do euleinnlY
swear, by our Lord Jesus Christ, who sufrereti ftir us on
the Cross, and by the Blissed virgin'Mary, that I
infrn, destroy,' and murder all heretics up to my knees ill
blood. So help. me Pod i'!'
The most rational placard was one imputed to the ROG.
Sidney Smith, and which was thus :
" Is there no Fear the other way?
" If you are so muck afraid of letting a few CAtholio'
into Parliament, have you no fear of keeping them all out?,
Do you think it safe that fire millions of men should !ifr;

i

eft' 44 a.Sate-of discontent? Do ,ott imagine that French
enemies and American enemies are not keeping their eyes
neon the state of Ireland, and that they do not reckon
"on the disaffection of that people? It is of the utmost
unPortance to the welfare of the State, and therefore to the
safety of the Church, to keep the Irish in good humour,—
hilt there are men who suppose the Church can be safe
When the State is in danger. This is much the same as if
it.wan should lose his life by taking care of his liver; or
julagine that hie stomach could be improved by any thing
Which destroyed his general health."
" Pit(iTESTA NTS !--Be not misled by the false and un-
christian caluMnies put forth; in treasonable and rebellious
Ptragraphs, against. your Catholic brethren and his Ma-
itA!):ll.Governinent.

" The Catholics of the 13ritish Empire have always
proved themselves to be loyal and true to their King and
country. Their earnest wish is to live in peace and har-
mony with their Protestant brethren.
" Join then, heart and hand, with your gracious Sove-
reign, with his faithful Ministers, and with his enlightened
S.nators, in their glorious design of restoring to persecuted
Catholica the rights and privileges of Free-born English-

At half-past twelve o'clock, the Sheriff took his place
on the waggon. There were then loud cries of 6' Mr.
-Holmes Sumner for ever;"—cries of " Denison for ever."
Mr. Pastrami made his appearance amidst loud cries of
.`` Kilmer for ever," accompanied with loud and continued
cheering.
' HUNT, at this period, made his appearance on a
Waggon next the Sheriffs, amidst great cheers, and dries
of "'No Popery."
PELLE Lanaaore, Esq., the Sheriff, then addressed
the
i natheeist.imngeeg
.tin,ii Gentlemen,l I have thought it my duty to
compliance with a requisition I have
Lad put into my hand, and I believe the most regular way
will be to, read it.
The requisition was then read, after which the Sheriff
continued :--.
Gentlemen, as in all probability there may be a difference
of opinion upon the subject about to be discussed, I trust,
with your support, I shall be able to obtain a fair and im-
partial hearing for every gentleman who may be disposed
to deliver hie sentiments on the present occasion.—(Hear.)
1)1r. HOLME SUMNER—Sir, I shall concur with you
most cordially in that observation; but 1 wish there had
bee, la a little more impartiality shown in calling the Meeting.
lied, Sir, to attend business in another place, and this
has business of the first importance. I had the honour
of dining with the High Sheriff on the day he was sworn
in i I then represented to him that there was a requisition in
Progress for him to call a meeting, and I told him 1 heard
it Was to be called for Saturday. I told him there were
three markets on that day, and if it was held en that day
4 would be the means of excluding the yeomanry, farmers,
abo tradesmen, who attended those markets, and that the
Public would also be generally inconvenienced by such a
measure. I had then the assurance of the High Sheriff,
that the Meeting "Should not be held on Saturday.—(Hear,
hear.)
The RICH SHERIFF—No, no, you had not.
Mr. HOLME SUMNER....-I had, and this is a mark of the
partiality of the High-Sheriff, and one that will lead me to
watch his future proceedings with great attention.
h Mr. CRAWFORD—I deny what the Hon. Gentleman
meeting with
confusion.)--I also was present at the
with the High Sheriff, and I differ entirely
from the Honourable Gentleman, when lie says the High
the Sheriff gave any pledge as to the day on which
l Meeting would be held. I certainly differ from him.
state
upon the subject being mentioned a few days ago, I did
to him it was not so, and I could not do otherwise
than state now that all parties were not agreed as to such a
conversation having happened then.
Mr. HOLNIE SUMNER—Sir, I ask no parties whatever,
whether they heard it or no ; for I am ready, on my
teleran oath, to declare such a pledge was given to me.—
(Great confusion.)
Mr. Cartxxx—Brother freeholders, there is an attempt
to make an inroad on Our British Constitution, and we are
beet here this day to oppose that measure, by having it
'Breed that the following petition be presented to his Ma-
lasty
•
Mr. CARTER then read the petition ; after which be
tait'ved that Lord Onslow be requested to present this
Addresi to his Majesty.—(Much confusion and cheering.)
Mr. HUNT—Stop, till its carried.—(Loud laughter.)
Mr. POWNELL rose to second the resolution. In doing
:(); he Prayed the indulgence of the Meeting while he en-
Lered a little into particulars. He felt delighted at
iring the opportunity of seconding a petition of this
~
in 1829, for he considered that the petitions of
r people had been disregarded. The petitions of
the lower class had been disregarded in a manner, such
481 Was never before known. It .was only the other night
`"' the House of Commons, that a Member declared that a
Petition signed by a hundred. and thirteen thousand had
been got up in " a hole and corner" manner, and knew
NU what they were doing. He laboured under very great
disadvantages in.coming forward on this occasion, as he
Possessed but very_ little property in this county—(Cries
of "and but very little in any other") ;—but if he wanted
any reason more than another for coming forward in this
manner, it was because the voice of the people who have
no property bad been disregarded, and disregarded in
a manner that had never before been known in the year
1688, Notwithstanding all time attempts that had been
made to prevent the efforts made to support the Protes-
tant Constitution Christians had rallied round the film
444 fundamental standard on this subject, as our fore-
fathers had done on memorable occasions, long since
g°be by.—(Clieers and great -confusion.)—He wished
the vibration of these words could go through the valleys
444 resound throughout the castle walls of Windsor, that
the Ring might know how affectionately loyal his people
Were, how desirous they were to maintain the Protestant
Constitution, for then would his Majesty not be deterred
frogs meeting their wishes either by the Catholic Association
Pr
any Paltry fears arising from any art of a Catholic party.
Zwattse the country had allowed the principle of expediency
('rgep in, that country had arrived at its present
eeisis. If the opposers of this measure were wrong,
lordl
Eldon, and many others of the first distinction were
ri'-hting.--(Cheers, and cries of " So they were, very often.")
1,;'5,n Was the Duke of York—then was the Duke of Cum-
/ t'aud wrong. There were few who valued the religious
'tights of the people of England, but would give cheers for
Otsatant Ascendancy.—(Cheers and laughter.)—A wag
4re Cried out, " one cheer more."—(Great laughter.)_
not intend to indulge chiefly in declamation, but lie
y:1441t any individual to point out a single country under hea-
exi:twed.nze.(the Catholic religion prevailed, and where liberty
Hear, hear, and great confusion.)—A Gentle-
In" bear me says, in France—France cannot be taken as I
II; parallel, for there the infidels took the Holy Bible, tied
entg assia tail, and dragged it through the streets.—
by‘ni.u°lo,and eers.)—According
.to the oath taken
every
-e '"itllolie Bishop on his induction, he was bound
ve very respect to support the Popish See, and to pre-
, any other person from having power.—(Cries of
lYou have said enough ; let Mr. Denison come for-
ard.")--One of the greatest Catholic authorities had-said
'gat What Popery was, Popery is, and would be to the
*,.,t14- If they wanted proof of the injurious tendency of
them "raittin g Popery into this country, lie would refer
to what now existed in different parts abroad.--
(Pries of " that's only assertion.")—He stated nothing
'l4. assertion : he would not risk his own character, or the
1111Orioos cause lie appeared to advocate, by stating any
4041 g on assertion. His authority was from official
olpents, and he invited others who wished
ill take a part in such proceedings to an
th.PePtfoi! orthme documents also, and then would intreat
ek:nt to think and 34dge for themselves.—(Cries of " off,
off.") He defied any person to show that
ice Was a mingle Catholic country in existence where
neaaiy ws n felt of iestrictng the pes
to circe cult atinga theirot Bulls throughouti the country._
laughter.)—Not even in Austria, where the Pope's
ikh'a. are circulated without the permission of the
eulahltnts, and yet in England were the Popes
tatibg their Bulls throughout the country calling the
Y Bible the doctrine of the Devil.—(Hootings and
n.Oati.
ing'• )-lle invited any gentleman to read the last
what had been circulated, and they would see its evil
4-b"relicY• Ile had it in his pocket.—(Cries of read it,
are bull enough yourself.) —Notwithstanding all the
e•iil4°o6!' of Mr. Canning and the Protestants of this
'roto Pr, thbae tyrrei atcq a corner in America where they
1,4 allow 'Protstant ClarChee for the ce-
ntition of religious Worship. ti o i.evr lie
or
tare ed Whd
auli'll Church of this 'country hear this, and take
Den of those who have stretched forth their hands to
bood°ll'n those establishments. The language of Dr.
j'e 4.t was, that his hostility was not to the Church,
14,icit0 the principles of the Established Church,
,
considered opposed to all the interests of Ireland.
-7
titigg and
cheers.
)—Fie did not wish to be offen-
ItL°lllny Cattolica; but he declared that there was not
malts hole layman but 'who 'Was iestrdment iii tbe
t -Lo! the Catholic lai'era-rChr: The Catholic Laity knew
;pia ; they knew only that which' Catholic Pi Tests
; and the Priests in ti.ese Protestant tones
t° the them in nothing that would be offensive
p! Protestant ears.—(Cries of off, off.)—As long
ud remained firm, so long would Catholic
It
Ptryti , r 7
beprevented from ascendancy in this
' • Ina the moment they gave way, there would be

an end to Protestani Ascendanct. TheDile Of Wellington
himself had in 1819 mails it declaration that there could be
nothing so prejudicial as to admit the Catholics into power.
He would here draw to a close.—( Yes, do—you have
spoke quite long enough.)—But he would advise them,
before he concluded, to look at the history of their country.
He would refer them to the old Almanacks.—( Hear, hear,
and cries of that's an old story. ).:--One of our own Mem
hers had talked in the House of Commons lightly of these
facts; but it would much better become him not to cavil
at it, without he was prepared to deny them. He would
ask them did they, or did they not take place? Could he
deny the martyrdom of many Protestants?—(Bravo !)
mixed with execrations, and "speak the truth--speak the
truth, if you can.")—Yes, let us support Protestantism,
and spelk the truth, and God will be with us. They had
been told that the Roman Catholics had got them Magna
Charts; but he would ask, how did they get it? It was
when the sturdy Barons could no longer bear the
tyranny of Rome, and likewise through fear that when
the church could no longer hold against the remonstrances
of the Barons, that they granted it.—(Loud cries of
" Bravo" from the mob, and " No, no," from the respect-
able part of the meeting.)—How did the Pope behave
on this occasion ? he confiscated the property of
the whole kingdom, and laid it under an interdict
for six years. Then was the time of England's sufferings.
He would refer them again to the time when Gardiner got
the ascendency of the Councils of Henry VIII., and conti-
nued that ascendency in the days of Queen Mary. The
horrible transactions of those days, and the sufferings of
the Protestants must be very familiar to their recollec-
tions. What a contrast were those days to those of our
good. Queen Bess! God filled her sails, and the vessel
of State gallantry rode over the waves. He prospered her
as long as her Council was Protestant—he (Mr. P.) knew
it was said she died a Papist. If that was really the case
God punished her, for she met with adversity in the latter
end of her days. What could prove more that God
prospered the Protestant cause than that he enabled the
fleets of Elizabeth to destroy the Spanish Armada.—
(Great laughter.) Charles the First was induced to marry a
Papist—the woman of his choice—but he refused that his
child should be sucked—(oh, oh, you mean suckled,
don't you, you call. Continued laughter and cheers, with
cries of let him go on till morning.)—What shall I now
say.—(Hear, hear, and laughter,—you don't know what
to say—there's a leaf torn out there, my fine fellow.—He
would tell them to be firm.—(A long pause, and laughter.)
—He was not at a loss—(Loud cries of hear, hear, and
you have said enough God knows.)—He was determined
and he hoped they were to support the Protestant Con-
stitution by all lawful means. Let them not turn right
or left for any paltry considerations. Every Sunday in
the county, in Protestant churches, the Ministers were en-
forcing by argument the obedience to the laws and -to
support those in authority. With such divine assist-
ance the glory of the Lord must rest upon the
land.—(Great laughter, and take care of yourself.)—
What a contrast the Roman Catholic chapels presented !
Their conduct was such that it must call down the anger
of the Lord.—(Laughter.)—They were continually meet-
ing and inflaming the passions of the people to the worst
of purposes.—(No, no, hear, hear, and off—no humbug—
no cant, and continued execrations mixed with " bravo.")
The worst construction he said had been put upon the ap-
parent indifference of the people of England to the Pro-
testant Constitution, but let it not now be thought there
was any such indifference—" Send your petition to the
throne—knock at the door of the House of Lords, and tell
them in strong language that the people of England
will never consent that any Papists shall sit there."--fA
cry of give them egg broth ! Laughter.)--_—lt was with
much pleasure that he seconded the petition.—(Great
uproar.)
Mr. HUNT then rose, amid cheers and uproar, mixed
with some hisses, which lasted for several minutes, while
Mr. Hunt smiled "ineffable scorn," and with great
complacency waited till the noise subsided. After
a pause, the cries became loud for Mr. Denison, and Mr.
Hunt gave way.—(Here the confusion again became very
great, with some calls for " Pallmer !" which only served
to increase the uproar. )

Mr. Ilumr—Gentlemen ! which will you hear,—me,
Mr. De aison, or Mr. Pallmer ?—(Loud cries for " All of
you !" and great laughter, with cries of "Pallmer.")
Mr. C. N. Pa LLMEIL then presented himself to the
meeting, and succeeded in obtaining a hearing. He con-
jured the meeting,:as Protestants, to do justice. It was'
he said, the maxim of Protestantism to do justice, and
fair play ought to be the motto of those who supported
that religion.—(Loud cheers.)—He should probably,
in a few minutes, trespass upon their indulgence, for
the purpose of explaining his conduct to his con-
stituents, his public acts ; and he hoped that, in the
interim, the freeholders of Surrey would not disgrace their
cause, which was that of religion, by a refusal to hear
what any gentleman had to say, either in his defence or of
the cause which he espoused.—(Cheers.)
Mr. HUNT then main presented himself to the meeting
—He had, he said, always heard that the people of Surrey
were like other Englishman, famed for fair play, and he did
not see any reason whiy he should not he listened to, par-
ticularly as there was so much talent present to answer
him, and confute him if he was wrong; but what could
be said of that cause which did not admit of impar-
tiality and fair discussion? he would ask what would
be said of the people of Surrey, if they refused
their fellow-freeholders a hearing ; what would be said of
this meeting of the gentlemen present, if they acted in so
boisterous or indecorous a manner as to induce, or rather
compel, the High Sheriff to dissolve the meeting ?—(Loud
cheering.)—And he was satisfied the gentleman who filled
that office would as a man of honour dissolve the meeting ❑n-
less fair play were shown to all those entitled to address
the meeting.—(Cheers.)—They had patiently listened to
the mover and seconder, and he was glad that those who
differed with these gentlemen had yet joined in attending
to their speeches. The latter gentleman had talked of Aus-
tria, France, and other foreign countries, and took occasion
to introduce the name of Buonaparte, but for what purpose
he could not understand. He (Mr. Hunt) had not pro-
bably travelled as much as that gentleman, but he hap-
pened to know a little of the state of England, and that
was to him a more important subject.—(Hear,
He was no friend to Popery—(hear, hear),—and
perhaps, upon trial, he would be found a greater
foe to Popish principles than even those gentlemen who so
loudly declaimed o❑ the subject. In many parts of the pe-
tition which had been read, he fully concurred, and also
in many of the statements of the gentleman who spoke
last; but lie happened to draw very different con-
clusions from these facts.—(Cries of hear, and uproar.)—
The gentleman to whom he alluded, as he had said before,
had travelled over foreign countries, but had not touched
upon the state of Ireland nor on that of any part of the
British dominions, but he (Mr. Hunt) wished to benefit
the people of England, Ireland, and Scotland.
[The Meeting was going on when our Express left, but
we will give the result in a Second Edition.l