The Sun.
London, England, 1842-08-04 00:00:00

Vibtrti Wbitton

town, Connelly, and Connaught, against the National
System of Education in Ireland.

SUN-OFFICE, AYeven o' Clock.

Mr. Darby presented a petition from the Board of
guardians of. Gateshead, praying for the appointment
of Chaplains in union workhouses.

DIVIDENDS UPON STOCK.

Mr. T. DLINCOMBE moved for a return, showing
the total annnal amount of dividends upon Stock and
Annuities, from which the Property or Income-tax
has been stopped or deducted at the Bank for the half-
year, sth day of July last, distinguishing the total
amount of such dividends payable upon individuals or
separate accounts arising from divider is upon fifty
shillings and under 1501. per annum, and also the
number of such individuals.—Agreed to.
INSOLVENT DEBTORS BILL.

SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS.
FROM THE EVENING PAPERS OF THIS DAT.
GLOBE.—The course which the Times is pur-
suing on the subject of the decisionsof the Ipswich
Election Committee is exciting considerable disgust.
Principle and reason are alike disregarded by our
Contemporary in his desire to aid the views of Mr.
Walter at Nottingham. It is clear that the
" friend of the people " rests all his hopes of sue-
CeSS on the corruption of the constituency ; ' and
as the money to be expended on the other side
is not large in amount, Mr. Walter had naturally
supposed that Nottingham might be had cheap, if it
were not for the resolutions of the Ipswich Com-
mittee, which will defeat the plan he had intended to
act upon. As individual votes, from the ab-
sence of competition, . cannot on the present oc-
casion command a very high price, it . was anti-
cipated- by Mr. Walter that he should some-
what compensate for the cost of the luxury 1)6 pur-
(hese(' so dearly in th 9 April of hist year, by obtaining
a 'eat on moderate terms. Ile is, thereore, sadly
baffled by the decision of the Ipswich Com-
' mittee. • It he closed up the avenues through which
he had expected to enter the _House of Commons ; ihr
it. prohibits bribery even on a small scale, and it was
,tu sulall scale that he' had hoped to practise it.
L would be idle to argue with the Times on the
ellZ•ct itf the views it advocates with reference to the
ptesent case ; because it is quite evident that the
personal interest of Mr. Walter is the object fOr
the promotion which common sense and (sommon
honesty are alike disregarded by the journalist. We
cannot suspect our Contemporary of the folly of
being impressed with the idea that he sincerely
entertains the opinions on the subject of bribery
which he just now so pertinaciously advocates.
He cannot, in his heart believe that bribery to a small
amount may be allowed ; and that a seat which may he
had tOr little money may with propriety be purchased.
Yet such is the conclusion to which the writer in the
• Times inevitably conies, When he complains that " Mr.
ethidstone and Lord Desert spent only 2501. each.
and yet they arc unseated." If smallness of outlay is
eu • Qxeuse they
bribery, the must corrupt—that is to
y, they who -rate their consciences at the emallest
peCuniary sum—the very meanest and vilest among
''the bribed—would be protected ; while others, whose
scruples reqUire much stronger temptation: before
they can tee brought to give way, would be more
severely dealt with. We perfectly agree with the de-
cision of the Ipswich Committee, in refusing, to pass
over as pardonable the payment of nominal service§
at a very exorbitant rate. •
STA N" D A RD.—The House of Commons was oc.
cupied nearly the whole night with the Newthundland
Bill. The succession of speeches with which Messrs.
C. Buller, P. Howard, Wyse, O'Connell, Hume, &c.
&c., wearied the house, is absolutely unworthy of no- ;
tiee. All were directed to perpetuate in unhappy.
Newfoundland that state of disorder which justified
us in calling the colony, four or five years ago, by
the name of a transatlantic Tipperary. vThis statesif
disorder compelled the late Governthent, however
reluctant, to suspend the constitution ; and none of
the opposition speakers last night were able- to ad-
vance a single •argument against the : suspension.
That constitution is, therefore, confessedly •insup- HEALTH OF TOWNS.
portable, and it is impudent, as well as idle, to • Mr. MACKINNON, in rising to move the first
complain that another constitution is 'to be reading of a Bill to improve the health of towns, by
tnted, except upon the hypothesis, which we ourselves preventing interment of bodies within their pre-
-1-141, that theleircumstaoces of the island do not • cincts, regretted that this subject had not been
fs arrant the imposing upon it a representative taken up by her Majesty's Government. He only.
system of government. Sir Robert Peel, Lord . wished that the Bill should now be read a first
Manley, and Mr. i'akington, fully demonstrated
time in order that it might be well considered
that the proposed constitution is at least sufficiently • by the House, the clergy of the United Kingom, and
popular : but we fear that they would not be able the public at large. In the various clauses of the
to show that it is not a great deal too popular. The Bill he had endeavoured to preserve the property of
Opposition divided the House no less than six times individuals, and abate a nuisance that was
upon different clauses of this trumpery Bill, but on . most important to consider. He did not : des-
each division they were beaten by a large majority— pair of success, and he 'trusted that he should
their greatest muster amounting to 21, and gradually be supported by 'every Member in that House.
descending- to a dozen. This is the way in which , After the best consideration he had been able to give flit public time is wasted on the 3d of August. The ' the question of expense, and collecting the opinions
retailing of constitutions by Lord Grey's Govern- of various individuals, he had come to the decided
mint was a folly, and a very mischievous folly too, opinion that a small'rate of one penny in the pound,
and it is nothing to the purpose to tell us that some , collected once in three or four veers, would be quite
of the present Ministers were parties to the folly. sufficient for the purpose. This might appear but a
The whole country knows that Lord Ripon, Lord small sum in small populations, but then in small
Stanley, and Sir James Graham were members of
'localities o ten or twenty thousand inhabitants,
Lord Grey's Cabinet—but the country knows also that .1 land was not of a high value, nor were the fees of the
these Ministers would not go the whole way with I clergy so expensive as they were in large towns such
that Cabinet, and, therefore, abandoned it under cir— as London, Biriningham, Bristol, and Manchester.
= (stances that proved them honourable' and .con,-A rate sif a penny in the pound, would be amply
scientious men, because these circumstances were sufficient in large towns, to answer all the purposes
such as to preclude a suspicion that they were ac- required. Under these circumstances he trusted her
tuated by any personal motive, whether of amMtion Alajesty's Ministers would not oppose the Bill. lie
or resentment. But it is surely nothing new for able felt satisfied the country required a change, and the
and good men to fall into active folly, when any cause sooner it was made the better.
etnnects them with bad men; and •in the case before Mr. COWPER seconded the motion. He said
rn there is no reason to suspect the statesmen in ques- I even if the Bill did not pass this session, yet as it was
t;on of more than passive error—the not abandoning lof great importance, and involved many interests,
the Whig Ministry when it opened its chandler's shop I some • good would be done by having it printed
of constitutions. 1:7 that means. some progress would he made.
Ihe worst effects followed from the present system.
The miasmia and pestilential exhalations which were
generated from those, burial places were the
causes of disease, and medical men attributed the
preValence .of typhus fever to the offensive
condition of the atmosphere, caused by the
burial-grounds. The clergyman who attended the
dead remained at a considerable distance from the
opening of the tombs, and those who dwelt in the
vicinage of burial-places shut their windows, in
tionsequence of the exhalations. Some legislative mea-
sure was necessary, and public opinion was in fa-
vour of it, as appeared from the extension of private
cemeteries. • He thought that the clergy, who de-
rived a considerale income in fees for burial, were the
only persons who would use their influence in oppo-
sition to such a measure. But arrangements could
lie made on that subject. Believing the subject to
be one of great importance, he had great pleasure in
seconding that motion.
• The question having been put,
Sir R. 11. INGLIS said that the Committee
which he sat upon, on the subject before the House, had
not come to
.a definite conclusion relative to the es-
tablishment of a Board of Health, and he did not wish.
to be considered bound to the adoption of such a
proposal. Ile approved of the 'principle of the Bill,
hut :he•did not pledge himself to support its various
details, as stated by his Hon. Friend.
Leave was then given to bring in the Bill.
CAPTAIN WARNER'S NEW PROJECTILE.
Sir P. BURDETT rose to move for a Select Com-
mittee to inquire into the negotiations of the Govern-
ment with Mr. 'Warner respecting his invention.. He
regretted -that he had not been able to bring
the subject before the House at an earlier
period, in consequence of the press of public
business. The case, however, of Captain Warner
stood in his opinion in a very peculiar position, and
was one of paramount importance for the considera-
tion of the llouse. He hoped that there would be
but one feeling prevailing among Hon. Members on
the subject, namely, an anxious desire to consider
fairly the claims of Capt. Warner, if now thought
probable that his invention possessed the ex,
traordinary powers ascribed to • it. He . (Sir
F. Burdett) thought he could not do better on
that occasion than to read the statement of Sir George
Murray in relation, to that invention—a statement
which derived its value not only from the character
of the person who made it, but from the great ability
with which it had been drawn up. The Hon. Baronet
then read the document' referred to, which
was to the effect :—". That there were three points
to be. attended to in considering Captain Warner's
discevery : first, its power ; secondly, the degree of
safety and facility with which it could be employed
for useful purposes ; and, thirdly, the disadvantage
which might result to this country from allowing this'
discovery to be communicated to any other State.
Captain Warner had become possessed of the disco-
very at the expense of much' bodily and mental la-
bour, and he set upon it a high value. . There ap-
peared to be but two modes of treating Captain War-
ner's criticism, either to leave him at once to pursue
his own course, or to appoint competent persons to in-
spect the criticism, with..a.view..to discovering its ap-
plicability. Every scrutiny .should be - afforded to
Mr. Warner against being, deprived of the fair reward
of his invention. There were'other persons of great
authority who entertaied the same
_opinions of the
importance of Mr.' Warner's invention. Captain
*Webster had stated his conviction of the immense
power and the, manageableness of the discovery. A
witness wino had been engaged in a great part
of the late war stated that there was no
power -whatever, either afloat or on shore,
which could resist Captain Warner's invention.
The Right lion. 'Baronet then read a statement
delivered to Lord Hardwicke by Captain Warner,
but in so low a tone of voice, that it was impossible
to hear a word. He could hardly conceive a more
modest proposal than that of Captain Warner, and he
could not conceive why any Government should
scruple to adopt it. On - the :15th of
April last a meeting was held at the Ad-
miralty in order to judge of the invention.
Captain Wainer could not get them to enter into
agreement with him. They distinctly told him that
they could not sanction any stipulations as to reward.
He also, it appeared, offered to try his invention inane
way that might be thought proper. Now, why had
that been refused.. There could have been no risk in
employing Captain Warner. Captain Warner might
'prove an imposter—(Hear, hear)—and in that case
he would be exposed, and the country would
be satisfied. Captain Warner made I this dis-
covery two years before the death of Sir Richard
:Keats, and if that worthy -Admiral had been alive,
he would have had his testimony to the ex-
cellence of the invention. • Even the late King
himself thought the invention important, and pne

HOUSE OF LORDS.—(THIS DAY.)
Their Lordships sat to-day at 11 o'clock on a Com-
ulitte of Privileges.

The Insolvent Debtors' Bill was read asecond
time, and ordered to be committed.
TOBACCO REGULATIONS BILL.

The Tobacco Regulations Bill was read a third
tlinc•and passed.

MORNING SITTINGS,

Sir R. PEEL moved that the House do meet to-
morrow at twelve o'clock, and he would also suggest
the propriety of commencing the public business at
four o'clock on thoSe days on which the House did
not meet until that hour.
Mr. T.- DUNCOMBE feared. that if the Right
Hon. Baronet carried his motion now, there would
be no House when his (Mr. Duncombe's) motion
came on. He did not wish to throw any obstruction
in the way of public business, but if the Right Hon.
Baronet carried his motion now, he felt assured that
such would be the case.
Sir ROBERT PEEL did net imagine that time
Hon. Member's motion would cot as a • charm to
clear the House.

Mr. BROTHFAITO.N hoped the Hon. Member
for Finsbury would not prevent the motion being
put for the House meeting at twelve to-morrow. The
motion was then agreed to.

EARL EARNERS CLAIM.

Counsel were heard, and witnesses (=Mined, on the
part of the Noble Claimant- in this ease to rote for .the
election of EPpresentative, Peers for Ireland, after which
their .Lordships declared that his Lordship had made
out his claim.—Clain•. allowed.

THE SUN, LONDON, THURSDAY EVENING, AUGUST 4, 1842.