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London, England, 1828-03-28 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, MARCH 27.
Sir J. YORKE presented a petition from the 'Vauxhall
bridge Company against the Bills sow before the House,
one for erecting a Suspension-bridge over the Thames at
Lambeth, and the other for erecting a Bridge, to be called
the Royal Clarence-bridge, over the Thames, at Lam-
beth also. The Hon. Baronet expressed his
of
that after the experience which we bad of similar
projects in 1825, any set of men could be found to advance
their money on such a @peculation as that now contemplated.
To show what they had to expect he need only mention
that the Waterloo Bridge, which was estimated at 500,000/.
actually cost a million, and yielded now net more than
per cent. ; thattke Southwark Bridge, which was estimated
X' 360,000/., cost 700,000/., and yielded infinitely less. It
would be a great hardship on the Vauxhall Bridge Com-
pany if the o
propsed bridge were to be erected, as they
had actually purchased the ferry at Lambeth, where
these enterprising gentlemen were now about to treat
them with a new Bridge. The Hon. Baronet hoped that
the House would interfere, and stop these speculators be-
fore they expended, without any chance of an. adequate re-
turn, a v,:ist sum of money on lawyers, engineers, masons,

and bricklayers.
Mr. FERGUSSON presented a petition from- the Bur-
gesses of Dumfries against the Corporation and Test Acts.
Mr. BIRCH presented a petition from tke artisans and
mechanics of Nottingham, praying for an alteration of the
p .esent Corn Laws.-
Mr. F. WILSON pre,ented a petition from- the palish
of Grimstone, in Yorkshire, against any-further concession
to the Roman Catholics.
The Hon. Member also presented s petition from the
i.littorniee and Solicitors of the city of York, on the subject
of the Bankrupt laws.
Lord MAITLAND presented a petition from the inha-
bitants of Jedh.urgh, against the CZirporation and Test Acts.
Mr. KENNEDY presented a similar petition from the
Corp:nation of CaLullentakers in the city of Edinburgh.
The petitions were ordered to be printed.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL presented a petition from the
freemen of the city of Canterbury, stating that they had
returned a person as their representative in Parliament,
and that he had deserted his duty. That person was Mr.
Lushington, and he was now unable to perform the trust
which he had solicited, having accepted the office of Civil
Governor of Madras. 'bey prayed. the House, that a
New Writ might be issued for the city of Canterbury, in the
room of Mr. Lushington but though this was not possible,
consistent with the law, he ;!ill thought right to pre-
cent the petition, and he must say, Out if Mr. Lushington
intended to continue in tint Civil Gover..zuent of Madras,
he would be guilty of a most scandat, ;breach of trust,
and his constituents would have serious cause to complain
tot' him. He was aware that it was usual when complaint
was made of a Member of that House to give notice of such
complaint, but in the absence of Mr. Lushington he knew
not whom to complain to.
The petition was then brought op and ordered ti Gr

printed.
Lora J. RUSSELL presented a petition from the Cur-
uoration of several Trades in Edinburgh, praying for a
repeal of the Test and Corporation Acts.
Mr. ;I.3ANKES brought up the report on the Arlington
and Dorche'ter Railway.
Mr. RICE moved inr a return of the number of copies
of the Statutes piinted for the use of the Magistrates of Ire-
land.—Agreed to.
Mr. J. SNIITII preaented a petition from the Catholics
of Marvborough, praying for the repeal of the Test and
corporation Acts, and also prying for the Urnawipation
cf the Roman Catholics.
Mr. G. BANKES postponed the order of the day for
bringing up the report on the Roman Catholic Land Tax
Bill until Monday next.
Mr. CURTEIS asked if the alteration was to be confined
to the Roman Catholics, or to extend generally to hls Ma-
jesty'it subjects?
Mr. BANKES said that he did not intend to make any
alteration in the clauses of the Bill, other than one giving
to the Lords of the Treasury an overlooking authority.

EMIGRATION.
Mr. WILMOT HORTON rose to present a petition
front the individuals composing the Manchester Emigration
Nociety, and he took that opportunity of saying a few words
lapel a motion of his which stood for this night, and which
he intended to postpone to Monday next. He had received
a letter from his Right Hon. Friend the Secretary of State
for the House Department, expressing his wish to have
the motion postponed to Monday, and he (Mr. W. H.)
asteti that an opportunity would- be then afforded for dis-
cussing the measure, beet if it could not be discussed on
that day, be gave notice, that he should, on presenting
some Scotch petitions on Tuetuiq, take tbe opportunity of
Mail( g 8011:144 DlA•sCa•ltrat ;0/10 UrrlV, a Pill cvl,;,•l‘, 110 Irrn•
sorry to say, was SO :ouch misunderstood,. The country
gentiewen of England were very touch mistakes. ,i, they
thought that he intended to charge himself with carreileg
a !lira.mure, which they considered would operate much
against their intereets, or to persevere to any measure
of which he took a different view frOm that uleen of it by
a great many Members of the Legislature. By doe enea-
eine which lie intended to introduce, he proposed not to
allow any parish to pledge their Rates, unless with
the consent of four-fifths of the rate-payers, anti of four-
fifths of the proprietors. fle thought that :weauld be a
sufficient security against the abuse of the privilege which
his measure was intended to confee upon parishes. As to
the retnocal of paupers, he proposed that parishes should
not have power to remove families, except in the propor-
tion of one to ten of thee,. families receiving some relief
eaet of the Poor's; Rates, in the shape of wages, and done
to five of those families/ who, except in harvest time, were
maintained out of the Poor's rates. lie also proposed to
introduce a legislative enactment, compelling all parishes
to keep au account of the sums raised by Poor's Rates for the
i;eotimate object,/ contemplated by the statute of Elizabeth,
for the aged and infieia, and to keep a separate account of
the sums advanced out of time poor's rates, by way of wages
for hire, for he considered money given to fathers of families
for the support of their children, ax mosey given for hire.
His object was that each parish' should gZve an exact return
of the reduedancy of the population, and as he enzeidered that
the actual reduatiency consieteel of those not employed. an ac-
count stating thesums paid out of tree 1;e/ors' rates to lahourees,
and the number of persons so paid, mut giving an accutate
etatement of the redundant population, woll(1 give more
information as to the real coadition of the poor, Mani any
that could lie suggested. He wished to state, in the eve:, t, of
his introducing any Bill at all upon the subject, that he
.should introu:liee a clause compelling the proprietors of
cottages to pay Poor Ratee for he could see no reason why
cottsge property should have that protection from poor's
rates which other property haul nut, and why a boons
should he held out to persons to invest their capital
in cottages. He thought such a clause would throw a
teofficient impediment in the way of increase of population.
His object in introducing this measure was meaely to give
parishioners an opportunity of trying an experiment
open a limited scale with a few families; for he felt satis-
fied that if that experiment succeeded, there would be
no occasion for any Outlier legislative interference. He
again repeated that if there was any indisposition on the
past of country gentlemen, or any °thee parties, to agree
in the measure proposed by hint, he had no w,;.slt to carry
that Bill' through the liouese. But lie thought it eeeelessary
in common ;attire to the subjeeeet, to explain his general
views upon if. He should therefieee, on Monday next, lay
before the house a statement of whet he proposed to do ;
but if he should nut leave that opportunity tea tionday, then
he would make the statement Oa Tuesday, whose ,i4e pre-
sented Scotch petitions.
Mr. LEYCESTER said, that nn modification which
roidel be proposed, would reconcile him to a i:g/I to which
lie had strong objections upon principle. The Bill was eon-
every to the rating principle of the poors' rates, for brat
principle was, that the support of the poor should be
thrown upon time present, and IlOt DU the future, occupiers
of land ; nor upon the proprietors. There might have
been instances its which it might be advisable to depart
from that principle ; bet such instances would not justify
him in supporting a Bill which introduced into the poor-
rates such a daneerous prineaine.
Mr. BRIGHT agreed in what had fallen from the
ifLwourabie Member
whithati just sat down, and hav-
ing naid the best attention in h.
tower to the
rviden^ee before the Emigration Committee, Lie opinion
was that t!te House ought uot .to agree to any measure,
founded as the Right Hou. Gentleman%
Proposed ea-
sure was on ibe principle ill they report of throe eommittee.
He trusted that the question ould be ght before
the House, in oilier 'sleet an opportunity 'flied be atiurded,
of entering into a fall ‘iecuesion of the many doctrieees
afloat respecting the important measure °f Emigration—
a tneasute he thought of great .ber4t tothe country; but
not upon the principle eontoined in ,thatieepot t. He was
satisfied that Emigration, as eooneeted with aeeer Colonial
possessions, was a measure which demanded .tlhe ghost
•
Jiberal support of Government and tie couutrY ; he
therefore trusted, that when the measurer game be
discussed before the Howse, the general question of emi-
gration, and the principle upon which the proposed merle
sure of the Right lion. Gentleman was founded, would be
kept separate.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL suggested that as the discus-
sion upou the Bill for taking votes at cities or len oughs
and other business stood fur Monday, it would be better it

the Right Honourable Gentleman would postpone his
measure until after the Holidays. He agreed with
Honourable Members that the proposed Bill was
not in the most convenient form for discussing the
question of Emigration ; he therefore thought it better, if
the Right Hon. Gentleman would, during the Holidays,
frame a Bill erabratlng the different views taken by Hon.
Members upon Emigration.
Colonel DAVIES thought it advisable to have the mea-
sure fully diseußsed, but he at the same time thought it
necessary that the Right lion. Gent, should have the op-
portunity of entering into some previous preliminary state-
ment.

Mr. WILMOT HORTON was prepared to consider
the question in all its bearings ; and if, after making his
statement on Monday, it should appear to be the wish of
the House to have the discussion upon the Bill postponed
to a future day, be should not oppose it.
Mr. J. SMITH had heard many observations made on
this important subject, which he was sorry to say were made
by persons who did not appear to have taken pains to un-
dersttnd the subject. He was sure that many who
couthlinied this Bill so hastily were unacquainted with the
condition of the poor, which was so terrific that no man of
common humanity could refuse to lend a willing ear to
any measure proposed for their relief.
Sir C. BURRELL and Mr. CURTEIi having made a few
observations,

Sir JOHN WROTTESLEY took that opportunity of
repeating what he stated two years ago, that if the measures
with regard to the state of the currency, were carried into
effect, great distress must fall upon the labouring people.—
The Hon. Baronet thought that it would be advisable to
snake this experinient, which might produce the most be-
neficial effects. It had been said that the poor man had no-
thing to expect, in the way of assistance, from those who
were more fortunately circumstanced. The Hon. Baronet
entertained no such idea of the Christian charity of the
people of this kingdom: indeed, he knew many instances
in which relief was extended when the 'poor rates were
found to be insufficient.

The petition was then brought up and re.ad. On the
motion that it be printed,
Mr. W. HORTON said, that in his opinion no plan of
emigration could be beneficial to this country unless
it also embraced Ireland. • The Right Hon. Gentle-
man then postponed until Monday next his motion on the
subject of emigration, which stood in the paper for this
evening.

Sir C. BURRELL moved that au address be presented to
his Majesty, praying that he might direct that there be laid
befare the House returns of the number of vessels, whether
British or Foreign, in which wool of foreign growth was
imported to this cauutry in the year preceding the sth of
January, 1828, distinguishing the number of vessels which
had cleared out iu ballast.-,--Ordered.

On the motion of Mr. R. DAWSON, the application
in Aida Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be
committed to-morrow.

On the motion of Sir G. HILL, the Bills of Exchange
(Ireland) All was committed. The report was received,
and was ordered to be taken into further consideration on
!lie 16th of Aptii next. The Bill with the amendments,
was ortt'sc to be printed.
PENRYN DISFRANCHISEMENT BILL.

ord JOHN RUSSELL, in moving that the
House resolve itself into a Committee on the Penryn Dis-
franchisement Bill said, that it was Lis intention to pro-
pose in a Committee that all the clauses respecting the re-
gulations to be observed in taking the votes at Elections at
Manchester should be expunged from the Bill. He thought
that those regulations ought inure properly to form the sub-
j ect of a separate Bill.
The House then resolved itself into a Committee on the
Bill. The report was brought up, and ordered to be taken
into forther consideration to-morrow. The Bill with the
amendmetel.s was ordered to be printed.
CANADA COMPANY.
Mr. Alderman WAiTHMAN said, that in submitting
his promised motion to the House, he wished to be under-
stood as not making it with the view of ihictving the
slightest imputation on the gentlemen who composed the
Canada Company, his only object was to have the valuable
discussion before the House when the subject of Emigration
to our North American Colonies carp; under its considera-
tion. Very few persons appeared to be acquainted with tbe
terms and conditions upon which the charter pf that
Company had been granted- It was merely known, that
a charter had been granted, but of its precise nature,
or of dee conditions accompanying it, the House was per-
fectly ignorant,. When that Company started, it was stated
in the prospectus, that its capital was to be one million
sterling, but it must excite suiliwise when it was ascertained
that not more than 100,0001. had in fact heen adyaneed.
The lion. Member, after going through various details
connected with the Company, concluded by moving that
there be laid info,: e the House returns of the quantity
a land is ITrppir Canmci c. lrl to th.. Cl.nfidian Company,
specifying the conditim-ta c 4-4 terms of the emote,
of the sums of money paid by that Cisimpauy on
account of such land—of the numbs; t persons
be At out by the Company—of the time of their being sent
out—aehe quality of the land provided for them, and the
price paid ft' soh lend.
Mr. W. HORTON taught the motion unnecessary.
Mr. BRIGHT was desirous tita; the Canada Company
should not only be compelled to fulfil theic bargain with
the 6oyerpment, but be compelled to lay before the /louse
the accounts ruierred to in the Hon. Alderman's motion.
After some obeerea4ies from Mr. EASTROPEy Ml'. STAN-
LEY and Mr. HOME,
HUSKIMSON was glad to see tioit 4re Honourable
Membet ivy Montrose had taken a correct view cf the
utility of these Conuanies to the public ; there were in
others of the Colonie; 12h tracts of wild lands unproduc-
tiwa to the Government, which, if pultivated, would, he
was sure; bring considerable advantage, as eve:l to the Com-
panies cultivei4e diem as to the public. But he belieo-e4
there were other Companies of this kind besides the Canada
Company : for instance, there was one in New South
Wales, and one in Van Diemen's a 4 el, and he hoped and
expeeteal that the profit of planting the waste t;acts in
these countries with civilized inhabitants would, in the
course of time, turn
,out to be of benefit to those Companies.
The plau on which such companies proceeded was this—
they purchased land of the Government at the price of the
day, contracting to pay the purchase muney fry instal-
ments, at fixed periods of time ; the Companies Leek,
Mg for compensation to themselves et a more remote .dis-
tance. Ise to the assertion that they picked out the choice
tracts of land, that was not exactly the fact. The Canada
Company had contracted ie th tee Government to buy the
Crown Lands, and ‘• Clergy reaerwea;" but some difficul-
ties n,erawring in executing the contract gelatin the
Clergy reawyes, the Government gave to the Company one
million of acres pp the borders of Lake Huron, in the place
of the Clergy reserves; hnt that tract was by nu inearie the
bast in the Colony. Then eheee was this additional ad-
vmeaie arising from these Companies, that one-third of
the puterneee money of the land was to be tapauded en the
building of be sages, roads, anti other public objects. In
fact. a mere useful npeeropriation of these waste lands could
not be made. As to the precise terms of the Company's
conteaa, be was sure the Company made no mystery of
them, nor raronld make any objection to let the public
know their proeeedierge, as they must be convinced that
their first road to success was a public knowledge of their
proceedings. Indeed, he was not 4wgre, till he had met
one of the Directors, that the affairs of the Company were
so prosperous as to haVe excited the jealousy of indie
vid4als. As to the Hon. Alderman's motion, he hoped
that, as st.eree was already a great mass of papers on the
subject before the Weise, the Honourable Alderman would
not press for the productina. of more, particularly as he
was sure that the Directors, or any other officers of the
Copapany, would, on application, give the Woethy Al-
derma:a every information he could desire on the anbjeiit
of the dissensions existing between the Legislative and the
public Authorities iiiphe Colony (Canada.) Other consi-
derations of it involved sun:; important principles, such as
the stkte of the representation, aiel were connected with
so many interests, that he could not this:: sf discussing it
on a desultory oetasion like the present. He bad, how-
ever, to inform the Roust, that it was his intention to call
their attention to it ilume4iateiy after the recess ; and the
best way, lie thought, to encounter the difficulties of the
question, would he to [lifer to a Committee the entire mat-
ter of the adminietratiou of Canada, with a view to allay
the existing dissentious, which, if continued, must have
the effect of disturbing the tranquillity, and checking the
prosperity of the Colony.
Alderman WAITHMAN, in reply, contended that nu
benefit could arise to the public or Companies from the
cultivation of waste lands in America, British or Repub-
lican. The Canada Company ought to be watched, and so
ought all Companies, as the reult of some actions in the
Coilree of Law lately proved That seweral of these public
Compea4as were founded is fraud—fraud too is whieh
some Members of that House were concerned. Indeed, it
was notorious, appeawi4g iven in the newspapers, that one
lion. Member, the representative of a borough, was re-
deeed to such difficulties in consequence d his participa-
tion in these public Companies, that he had offeeed to
aincoeetantt he
e.O hiltern Hundreds for a pecuniary compensa-
t (Mr. Alderman Waithman), believed, in his
conscience, the borough was at that moment on sale.
Mr. STANLEY here called the lion. Member to order.
Alderman INAITHMAN was proceeding, to speak on
the same subject, when
:11r. HUSKISSON interposed, and urged that the fb.M.

LONDON,
FRIDAY EVENING, MARCII 28, 1828.

RUSSIAN DECLARATION.

We received this morning the Journal of St.
Petersburgh of 01e l ltli inst., which contains
two important articles—the first being the De-
claration of the EMPEROR'S opinion upon the
memorable manifesto of the Po RTE. It expresses
in strong language the regret of Russia at that
manifesto, and her determination to require a
complete and speedy reparation for all the wrongs
which Russia has suffered at time hands of the
SVETAN, while she, at the sameltime, prosecutes
ith her Allies the negociations consequent
upon the Treaty of London. She will conform
to that Treaty to the very letter, in all that con-
cerns its spirit and execution, while she
will find means, single-handed, by the
aid of Providence, to obtain indispensable
reparation for her injuries. The declaration of
the Divan, that they never intended to execute
the stipulations of the Treaty of Merman, has
caused great and just indignation.
The other article refers to the progress of the
Russian arms against the Persians, and the
speedy submission of the SCHAP!

PETERSBURGII, lIARCH 11.

The Journal de St. Petersburpli of this date has an
Extraordinary Supplement, containing-Ist. " The trans•
lation of a Proclamation issued by Hatti Sherif, the Ist of
Djetnazuil-Akhir, 1243, (Dec. 20, 1827), sent to all the
Pachas and Governors of the Provinces of the Empire,
and delivered to all the Ayans (Primates) convoked in the
capital."
The following observations are subjoined
The above document scarcely needs to be characterized.
While the Sultan excites against Russia the fanaticism of
all the Mussultnen points it oat as the sworn enemy of the
followers of Mahatma, invites to war all the people near
our eastern frontiers, and to revolt the numerous subjects of
the Emperor who peaceably profess Islamism, under the
protection of our laws ; while he ascribes to us the insur-
rection of the Greeks, and the intention to overthrow the
Ottoman Empire, on the other hand he announces to the
Allied Courts that his real and sole object was to gain
time, and to amwer with arms in his hand to the overtures,

the object of which was the pacification of Greece. Nay,
more, by this same Manifesto, the Sultan also announces
to Russia the complete annulment of its transactions with
the Porte, by declaring that he has never considered the
Convention of Aleutian as binding._that he concluded it
only to break it—and to break at the same time all the
preceding treaties which it confirms ; consequently to an-
nihilate the most precious and the most honourable titles
of our rights and of our national glory.
" Before and since the publication of this document, the
Divan at Constantinople had not ceased openly to violate
these same treaties, with respect to which it has now made
known its real intentions.

" Our flag, and that of almost all other nations, can no
longer pass the Bosphorus. Our southern provinces see
the only outlet for their commerce closed. Our vessels are
detained at Constantinople, and their cargoes taken away.
Lastly, our subjects are obliged to quit the Ottoman empire
within a fortnight, or to take upon them the condition of
Rayas, and to submit to all the consequences of it.
" Such acts, provocations so serious, and the measures
which they render necessary, give rise to the mast lively
regret; but the causes of complaint which the Porte seems
to have studied to furnish us with, require, on the other
hand, a complete and speedy reparation ; and Russia,
while it prosecutes with its Allies the negotiations which
the accomplishment of the Treaty of Loudon requires ;
while it conforms to the letter and spirit of that act, iu
every thing that concerns its spirit and execution, will find
means, with the aid of God, to obtain this indispensable re-
paration. It will find means to secure to the commerce of
the Black Sea, the inviolable liberty which is the first
condition of its existence, to its treaties with the Porte
the respect and the stability which they require, and to its
injured subjects all the compensation which they have a
right to claim."