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brought about by the Carbonart ; and that the
object was not to establish a Neapolitan Con-
stitution, but to promote a general Insurrec-
tion. It was no part of his duty:to defend that:
M'anifesto ; but when it was• asserted by the:
Noble Marquess, that whilst his Majesty's Go-
ye-RI-Mott-declared that they would-take-no part in.
the contest, they yet countenanced the principles
laid down by the Congress, he certainly put
'a. construction on the Circular Letter-written
by his Noble- Friend' the Secretary:.• of State
which it did not bear. The concluding sentence
of the-Circular Dispatch of his Noble Friend was
in these words The difference of. sentiment
which -prevails between, them and the Court of
London -on this- matter, you may declare, can
make no alteration whatever-in the cordiality and
harmony of the Alliance on-any other subject, or
abate their Common -zeal in giving the- most com-
plete effect to all their existing. engagements."
He (Lord- Bathurst). contended that that passage
did. not bear the construction -put upon it- by the•
Noble- Marquis. -With respect. to the Declara,
tion of the Allied Powers,„ they stated,. as he had
before. said,. -that • the' -Revolution -had been'
brought about by the • Carbonari, • whose object
was general insurrection ;- they stated that the
King had been obliged to adopt-the- Spanish new
Constitution in the course of five .days, .and that
the whole people were by no means:favourable
to the state of things So ,violently ~established.
With respect to the Address -of ,the,-Noble Mar,
guess, he (Lord Bathurst) could not. think that
the present was the. time to propose _it.. If the
House'passed that. Address,-they w.oold only. pro-
long the contest,-by holding out hopes to the Nea-
politans. Under present circumstances, seeing that
resistance would be unavailing, they might disband
their soldiers and ,submit. - -But if they. should re-
ceive, intelligence that their Lordships,hadagreed
to the Address before them—their- hopes. would
brighten=ithey- would hold their. arms •in- their
hands—they would place- themselves on, the hills
WhiCh overlook the-ocean to watch the-:expected
succour from this country—they would ultimate-
ly fall the victims of -their own credulity, and of
the declarations of that House. If this. country
were to declare war against Austria--if, she
presumed to- go a step. further,-,he. certainly
would doubt the wisdom of such a declaration—
but it would be at least intelligible—it would be
open and fair. If the House were not prepared
to go so far
.as that, he submitted that it would
be unwise to interfere

Lord ELLFiBOROUGII said, the objection of
the Noble 'Lord, who had just sat.dOWn, applied
to the •latter. part of the Address: To the first
part there WaS no objection, for it merely went
to epreSs the approbation of this- House of the
conduct of Ministers, in condemning 'the' princi-
ples of the Congress: If it was right for Minis-
ters to'express that disapprobation; he
,contended
it was perfectly right 'for the House' to express
its ,satisfaCtion at' the part-they acted. if the
Noble Lord .had applied 'more closely to the
Words .of the latter parthe would not give them
the interpretation- hebad done, for they only stated
we ought -to interfere,' to' induce. the Austrians
to withdraw their troops.—He was convinced
that his Noble, Friend, looking at thd 'affair With
the eyes of a Statesman, would Ile fully impressed
with the change!: to.Enrope—to ourselves, perhaps;
more than to Austria herself. If , the situation of
Austria were looked at, her necessity for relying:
on her military
.force; that force.drawn only from
her own population, and which mass she could
move at once to any _point attacked ;' if 'the
consequence Of the movement of her force to the
south-of Italy,.so distant as to find it difficult to
act for the general interests of the Empire were
considered, no' movement could appear so preg-
nant with danger to herself; and- looking- at; it
merely in that point of view, it would be the im-
perious duty Of his Majesty's Ministers to endea-
vour to arrest them.:—,(Hear,; hear !)—But 'were
the 'difference- bet Ween the present situation of
Italy and What 'it was previous to the Freneh
Revolution taken into account, that the Ita-
lian soldiers participated in' - the victories
of, France and were animated by military,
glory-Lthat the French have imparted know-
ledge of political'matters to the people,. and that
by annulling the old law of primogeniture, now
re-established, every young man in the country
was arrayed against the- existing laws.—(Hear,
hear !)—Were all these matters considered and
viewed with the eyeS Of statesmen, it would be
universally agreed that no measure could be
fraught with Sornuch danger as that of the Aus-
trian movement. He did not think that the.
Austrians would meet with any material- opposi-
tion in the first instance'; but when he recollected
what had been achieved by Spain—(Hear, hear!)
lie could not calculate on the 'effect which the
occupation of the Neapolitan territory by the
Austrians would produce,-particularly on France.
What movement could be ,so :dangerous to
the Government of France as 'that of taking
part againSt the people, thereby placing the
pasgions and feeling of France 'against the
French Government—(Bear, hear !)—I t. would
be impossible, (looking as he did to the move-
ment of the Austrians) not to foresee that it might
interfere with the liberties and happinesi of
rope. In forrner contests the hearts of the peo
ple of England and of the Continent were With
Government ; what was'the case at present ?
The feelings of every nation in Europe were
against us. Looking, as he did, at the situa,
tion of the -country, he could foresee-few
occasions on which war would. be. popular ;
but on none could Ministers be so certain
of the sentiments of the country being in uni-
son with them; as if• war should unfortunately
grow out of our interference to prevent the
subjugation of Naples by foreign Despots. TO
'the-motion of his Noble Friend„ he would pro-
-pie to add," That his. Majesty would, be gra-
ciously pleased to direct-his Ministers to use all
possible endeavours to avert from this country the
dangers likely to be the consequences of the pre.-
sent movements on the Continent„ and thereby
secure the tranquillity of the "British .
He would ask, were there no measures promising
a successful result short of %var.? 1-1 iS Noble Friend
had asked, " Do you think your .remonstrance
would drive 'the Austrians back ? Undoubtedly
not—but circumstances might arise which would