The Sun.
London, England, 1819-03-27 00:00:00

BREACH OF PRIVILEGE.

The SPPARFR acquainted the House, that the
Serjednt of the Guards, who and been ordered to
the Bar, was in attendance. The Soldier had ttot
yet arrived. Was it the pleasuli of the House to

cal! ;11 serjeatlt, of to wait tin both ge: jea t
and .Soldier could make their appearance ?
Mr. \YYN observed, it would be rattier awk-
war4- to examine first the one and thin the other.

• The SPEAKER said, lie understood they were
both on ditty in the same guard at Chelsea. AD
interval had taken place between the Orders of
the House commanding their attendance, and it
was probable that Do longer intetval would occur
between their attendance.
Lord AGTHORP was not aware that there vvotild
be any necessity to examine the Soldier. As
the Serjeant was in attendance, if the House
pleased, lie might he called in and examined.
The Serjeant was accordingly called in, placed
at the Bar, and underwent an examination by the
Speaker, and by various Members, to the follow-
inz effect
Q. What is you name ?—A. Thomas Harvey.
Q. What are you ?—.l. A Serieant cif the Guards.
Q. Of what Regiment I—A. The ist Regiment of Guards.
Q. Did you come to Westminster on Saturday in search of
,tinton ?—A. Yes,

Q. Under whose authority ?—A. That of the Serjeant-
Nlairir.
Q. Where did von find him ?—A, On the steps of the Hall.
Q. What did you du when you found him ?—I asked hint
what he was about.
Q. What did he say ?—A. He said he had been examined
and was done with.
Q. What di: i you then do ?—A. I took him•away.
Q. Whither did you carry hint ?—A. I was taking hint to
quarters, but he ran away.
Q. Did von take him again ?—A. Yes.
Q. How soon ?-41. In a quarter of an boor.
Q. What did you then do with liar ?—A. I delivered hint
at quarters.

Q. What became of him then ?—A. I reported him to tho
Serjcant NT.ajor. who.gave orders to hare him taken to the
barriteks to he CO, i third.
Q. What became of hint at the barracks ?—A. I left him
there.

Q. You Lave stated that you received orders so take S:in-
ton'to the barracks from theSerjrant Major. %via is the
Serjeant Mejor's name ?—A. Sutton.
Q. Did ran state to the Serjeant Major the I eason for which
yon arrested Stint au ?—A. Yes.
Q. What was that reason ?—A. For bettig absent from the
defaulter's drill, at nine in the morning, .

Q. Fine Stinton been since tried Li) a Court Martial ?
A. l'es.

0. On what charge ?—.A. Os) the several charges of alk-
serti- g himself-without leave from the defaulter', drill, oi,
the morning of the 20th ; of escaping front my custody; kind
of haying ~tolen a piece of cloth front tne.
0. Did the Serjeatit-Majiir desire you to come to'he
of Commons fur the purpose of apprehending Stioton-2

(a. What instructions did yon receive from the Serjeant-
Major ?—A. To take and confine hitn.
Q. Did you receive any particular instructions where to
seek him ?—A. I was to bins where I could.

Q. Did the Serjeant-Major say that the man was ordered
to attend a Committee of the House of Commons?—A. No :
not at all. •

Q. Il'hrti was it that Serjeant Harvey first discovered that
the cloth had been stolen from him by the man ?—A. On the
day on which he was confined.

•
Q. After his-arrest or bcfu•e ?—A. After.
Q. Ilow lon before was it that you discovered the loss of
the cloth ?—A. Five days.

Q. Did Serjeant Harvey know at the time of the arrest of
St ii ton, that he had taken the cloth ?--A. (as the witness was
understood to say), I cannot answer without cons;deration.
Q. When did Serjeant Harvey first discover that he had
lost the cloth?—A. The same dap can which I lost it.
Q. When was it !'.tat you discovered that Stinson had taken
it ?—A. After he was arrested.

Q. At what hour was the defaulter's drill ?—A. At nine
o'clock in the morning.
Q. How long did it, last ?—A. One hour.
Q. Diq the man at the time be was arrested state that his
absence from drill was occasioned by any particular circum-
stance ?—A. Only by his- being obliged to be here.at half-
past eight.
Q. To whose squad does Stintoa belong ?—To no squad.
To Captain -- company.
Q. To what Non-commissioned Officer was it his duty to
apply for leave' of absence ?—A. To any.
Q. Did he to von ?—A.
Q. Was part of the charge prefared avinst hint at the
Court Martial his being absent from the drill ?—.l. Yes.
Q. Mil he state to the Officer that his absence was occa-
sioned by his attendance on a Committee of the House of
C011if1:011S ?-A. Yes, be did.
- - - - -

The witness was here ordered_ to wi;hdtaiv.
Lord. ALTnottp observed, that it was given in
evidence, that the first charge against the soldier
was his absence from drill, in .excuse for which
he' gave as a reason the necessity of his atund•
ante on a Committee of the House of Commons.
On the face of the proceeding there appeared to
be a Breach of Piivilege ; and conceiving that the
proposition Of his Hon. Fikrid (Mr. 13.nanel), for
the prodriction of the minwes of the Court Mar-
tial, was most proper., he :should move, that the
minutes he pr,duced. •
Lord PaLsiERSTON said that he was informed
the man refused to say where he had been.
The SPEAKRR here interposed, observing, that
he understood Stojeatit Maim' Sutton was in at-
tendaoee to give evidence, and recommended that
the Noble Lord ab sullen(' his motion until
after the Serjeaot Major's examination..
Lord ALTHOFF acquiesced, and the Serjeant
Major was eitiPed to the Bar.—He stated th.tt -he
sent Serjeant Harvey in pursuit of William St in-
ton on Saturday last, on account_ of having been
a defaulter at drill on the morning of that day—
that he was first taken abopt 2 o'clock—that
Setjeant Harvey repotted that he found W. Stinton
in the House of Commons, where, he said, lie
had heen summoned as a witness, and that having
taken William Stinton into custody, he made his
escape, 'was pursued, avid taken—that Witness or-
dered him into confiuement, and reported the
case to the Adjutant—that when he was question-
ed by the Adjutant as to the cause of his absence,
he turned round in a very contemptuous manner,
and said lie would not answer any questions ex-
cept he was brought to a Court Martial--that
the Adjutant said he would report his case to the
Commanding Orticer of the regiment—that
William Stinton was confined and brooght to a
Regimental Court Martial.
Q. Upon what charges ?—A. 1 cannot speak exactly as to;
the charges; 1 night be ittaccuraW if 1 were to attempt to
star thew.

What was the result of the trial ?—A. He was found
guilty of some of the charges brought forward against him,
but be was SllbjeCtr,l to no punishment.
Question be Sir CuArtax.s. Ai°NcK.—Did the man male the
same excuse to the Adjutant which he had made to you ?
A. He said to the Adjutant he would answer no questions.
Question he Sir CITA R I.F.S NION CK, hart.—Had, witness re-
ported to the Adjutant the excuse which the man made to
hint ?—A. (After some hesitation) No.
Question by the SPEAKER—Did the witness report to the
Adjutant that William Stinton said he was absent front drill
in cousequenct, of having been summoned to attend the House
of Commons?—:l. (After a pause) I am not certain whether
I did se or not.

Question hv Mr. C. WYNN—At the time you ordered the
man into confinement, did you know that he had been in at-
tendance on a Committee of the House of Commons I
had reason to believe so, from the report I received from Set--
jeant Harvey; bat I understood at the Sallie time that his
altcndance here did not 'uteri-A:re with his duty as a suidier,
which lie ',ad ne2lect ed.

Ques►ion by ?!r. C. %Vs.Ns—Did witness see the summ-ins
received by Stint(in, requiring his attendaneeon a C,lllll, ti
of the House of Commons ?--(k. 1 saw a paper lu Stinton's
hands, but 1 did not examine it.
_ _

"I'liea i!ness ltAvitig ordered tty wit'odraw,
Lord AiTtICEF vaid, i, iatUr qipetircd from the

0:;(1ente eoiAntrhetit at),l ;: tl orv"''"'.
Stiutott had not been on'acconitt at te, 4,`
as a witness before a Committee of that IS o"`'
but on account of bib contemp!ltous bei;‘"i'"lrt
afterwards. But as this matter itur:oil.'""
doubtful, it would be. desiratilc, atm the mitittle3
of the Court Mattid be I,id before the Iloose..":"
The Noble Lord then tnade a ow- lido• to that
.purpose.
Mr. BECKETT (Jthlge AdvOCZI!e) CMltCrided that
unless a particular ground was made out for th.d
production of the proceedings of (till CMIII Mar-
Hal, the [louse ought not to agree to the motion,
There was nn evi;lence before the House tc"':.ill4o
to silew that the continctueut auti trial of
was any way connected with his attendance as

winless here. • .
-titg
Mr. TIERNEY said, it was 'precisely bPeame. ,
House were in doubt who her his arrest and cba.:
fi' ementl were ()ecasionvci by 1 is -attendance as 7
witness before the House that they svished to
have the Minutes of the Court Mar,ial.
could conceive no possible objection to the pr 4-
1-I' retdil,

ducion of those Minutes.
Mr. Goutatint4 said a few words, which wei
inandible in the Gdiery. in
M. G. W. ‘Vrs:Nr A:lid, it had been ststecik
evidence, that ,Sinton sa;d, win:n he was ta.,el
into ensto h
dv, his absence was occasioned e
summons he had received to attend Cffilirrit,ttd
Of tie no.)—This era' the point
be cleated It was certainly a bre-01°
4) )
con
f PI:"
%Hoge, it tie prison who ordered him ild,"ei
fly inentent knew'•that Liwitnesss absence tva, ocerof
his attendance as a oo a C""-t(ce
ti'!louse. c fine"
Colnud TOW NSA! END stated, that keo
t7ay
it
,w atiod !i
siaoceortw etserq:
behaving
t
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a
manner.
Mr. C. W. IVYN:f.4 Wisbek' to know .."I'elher he
'
w,,s (tied thfrely Ott account of his 111:st°"w"3s-t
running away from the serjeant.
point of great consequence. .attife
ow u ncl 1 oNstsEND was then exttm's--,d
13.,r,.,r, and stated su nwh bstace at ht= had 040 d
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toentioned in his place. • to
Lord ALTHORP said, it was still neces".' of
have the Minutes, to ascertain wbrther ('►te e
the charges against Stinson, tS'a9 :10r 41),:fenIiI
from drill when he attended a Committee
House of Commons.
. woof) rather thought they were tore
OM of their way in wishin, to get- these illiwa'tLais
lie thought it was Inky for the kilo' tis4t-
of
having been summoned to attend !he 11;`,",'seteot
Commons had treed him from the P""'',,,:hg
which his misconduct deserve(,. j3`
aYl,r.sre`t
they hail better proceed no ftirther.
canseof
that Siillton wetted he wont,' not tell the
his .hence till he ,was before a Court .I‘/aL'AIE
he seemed therefore to have brought the

Aiartial on himself. w
Lord PALMRRSTON wished to knO.WP lieOt
as there were th,ree charges against
on account of his absence, another ""
of his misconduct when with the selietort,
!bird for making away with his I)3""l''"s)art°
it
.viviould trot hr sofficient to have those
of minutes which had any relation to the 41'4°1
lion of Pt ivilege ? •
Lot d A
..1-Tnorip expressed ti wish to have die
wl;ole Minutes.
Lord PALVEIISTON expressed a dercrrilinatint.o° •
oppose the production of he r.. 1,01,! of the Minuteg:
The Gal-lery was titer cleared, for a divisio, li"1"
• none look 'place. and the motion was negatived'
ARMY ESTIMATES.
St into o,
IThe ilonse resolved itselt into a Commi!tee
Supply and Lord PALMELISToN MOved
grants. for army services for tile year .091,`",'
were agreed to. The House then ge..i4llo`"
be
the Report of the Committee was ordered 'u
•
brought op on
MItr;.GE ACT. of
Alt
Dr. PuttArsioat3 the second readiori,is.
the Marriage Act . A ,„,„difie-iit 101. vi "e ve"Wit
intention move• the commm i,ent Gf
oft
ow, with m a view to re-comittoe''' "ke
n
uuderstauding that the dc is -ussioo ""tild "
place
o?. 3110%171:;SeO anti the S sNta"re.oticlT"-aFs°'‘At.
Sir
expresied themselves avets.rto the Bill.
1 3111.
Mr. Serjeant Ossiow • ved of -I'l- tr.
The Bill was then reaad)-a"scrond te; ,•
tilted ; the Report brongi,t to) and orilelc"
taken.into further considelatioin thi4:tYd.
night, and the Bill as amended to he fro' •
ti Mr. DICKINT‘ON moved the further co"' The
on of the Qnarter Sessions Division -13'11 .---
Bill was re-committed. Sir (;"
After a short conversation betweon the
11‘1.)-IleonrIle:secek, Mr. ,
ci
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itirtia(yitnl.l'ea aril
Report C• `'t
a 1
°l.d'eettYre,'
ived on
The House went into a Committee on
k, o detect alies Ditties,- and agreed t a resolution ft•ir.
j
ion, the Report of which was or
be eceive I on Monday. er
Tad
Or Prize 'Monev Distribution 13111 )3:
scion(' time : he committed on Ifj""`;`1;:d to be
The Scots Savings Banks Bill was niller-
read a second time on Monday.
It
Lord LOWTHER moved fora new' wr--- for AP'
h 110
pleby, in the room of G. Elmlyer, Esq. sv"-°'
arcepred t
Fhe Chiltern Hundreds. - of tbe
Lo • 1
_,BRINGTON 1110Ved tor accounts
Horse Dotiei since ISls.—Oldeted.
VoTERS' OATHS.brrn
Mr.:W. Wit.itAms direct for leive (o
in a Bill to extend the. Law din 4 oaths 1('
taken by Frecitold'Voters in Couoties,
sons voting in behalf of Freehold.' in or"rt,c;
and Cities ; and also to impose the g3tir: • C
Voters of all descriptions, of taking an nat,i ',"11):c
they P"sscssed the right in belialf.of
may vote. The Bill WaS nut to alter the -I,
the land as to any part of the right or vot,r!!
to give the security' of an oath 114ainst rho 1);,d
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(ent,. nr occasional VoleS ‘VitiCh 1-2,j'"-,1"

O;tel interfered to prevent. fr VC
After a few-words trom Mr. V. Bi•AK
was given. d
The other Orders of the Day were toc3.
posed of, and the Howie

ONDON: lted by .1. 13. CRSTAIRS, of •
4.4m0t01-s:rect, Queen-No:ire; aoft potyliF.!tri
'SLAM'S, of No. 7; Son:h INloltoti-street, 114;:u.,e.,
No. 112. strand ; w'acre•Aiirettiseoervi,
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