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London, England, 1828-06-25 00:00:00

EMIGRATION.

Mr. W. MORTON rose,. pursuant to notice, for
the purpose of bringing under the consideration of
the House a resolution on the subject of emigration.
It would not impose upon Parliament the necessity
of taking any decided measure at the present moment;
it would merely go to pledge the House to take up
the subject early in the ensuing Session. He was
astonished in a debate on a former evening to hear
it stated by his lion. Friend, not now in his place
(the Member for Kerry), that it was a mistake to
suppose that the state of Ireland called for the espe-
cial consideration of that House. His Hon. Friend
referred to the exports and imports, for the purpose
of shelving the prosperity of that country ; and it
also astonished him to find that not only such was
the opinion of that Hon. Member, but that he found
some supporters in that House. The Bishop of
Limerick, no mean authority, haul in his evidence
before the Committee appointed in 1826, to inquire
into the state of Ireland, avowed sentiments quite
opposite to those of the Hon. Member for Kerry.
—[The Right lion. Gentleman then read an extract
from the eviden..e of the Right Rev. Prelate, in
which he ttate*l that the condition of Ireland was
truly frightful, the under-tenants of under-tenants
dispossessed of their holdings going to distant parts
of the country collecting aid, and returning at night
to avenge their supposed wrongs, and gratifying that
revenge by destroying the dwellings, and attacking
the lives of his Majesty's more peaceable sub-
jects ; this was of course followed by reprisals,
by public prosecutions and ignominious death.]—
On reflection, he thought by possibility, that it might
be objected to that evidence, that inasmuch as it was
delivered in 1826, it might be in nowise applicable
to 1828—that, in short, circumstances which have
since occurred, might have altered the views of the
Bishop of Limerick; and were he again to be ex-
amined, he would give evidence the very reverse of
that which, with perfect sincerity and good judg-
ment, he gave before the Irish Committee. In order
to neutralize whatever importance might be sup-
posed to attach to an objection of that nature, he
made an application to the Bishop of Limerick, in-
quiring whether any circumstances had occurred
since 1826, which would induce him to qualify in
any manner the evidence then given by him. To
this the most satisfactory reply had been given. He
stated that he had had an opportunity of reading
his evidence over again, and that were he to be a
second time examined, he should not alter or qua-
lify a single expression. Those, then, were the
views of a Prelate of the Established Church—those
were the emphatic terms which he used. The Irish
peasant is represented as lying the entire day on a
litter of straw, rising in the evening to eat a few
potatoes, and then lying down to spend the night as
he had passed the day. These latter opinions and
statements, the House would observe, were in per-

feet accordance with the sentiments of the Bishop of
Limerick—they were the opinions of Dr. Doyle, the
Roman Catholic Bishop of Kildare and Leighlin.
The life which he described before the Committee
as being the life led by the Irish peasantry, was one
which all men must agree with Dr. Doyle, had
better be terminated in any manner rather than con-
tinued under circumstances so frightful. Thus,
then, the House had before them the evidence of
prelates of the two churches, both tending to the
same direction. It was not necessarily consequent
upon his motion that a remedy should be instantly
suggested ; the effect of his resolution, if adopted,
would be to leave it in the discretion of any Mem-
ber hereafter to follow up that preliminary step in
any manner that future circumstances might seem to
require. He could not but express extreme regret
that the subject had excited so little interest in the
House, on a matter of the very highest importance,
not only to Ireland, but to England also. In the
total absence, however, of support in that House, it
was satisfactory to him (Mr. W. Horton) to know
that there were those out of doors by whom the
subject had been taken up, and authorities, too, who
exercised a great influence on public opinion. (The
Hon. Member here read, at some length, extracts
from the Quarterly, Edinburgh, and Westminster
Reviews, all of which favoured the system of emi-
gration.) He (Mr. Wilmot Horton) felt gra-
tified in finding such authorities on his side.
Ile remembered the abuse poured forth against emi-
gration by a publication of high authority with some
of the Members of that House—he meant Black-
wood's Magazine. Now he could produce &defence
of the emigration plari from a late number of that
publication. Here the Right Hon. Gentleman read
an extract from Blacktvood's Magazine, in which
the existence of a redundant population, particularly
in Ireland, was noticed, and the question asked,
Why was not emigration from Ireland thought of as
a remedy for the evil ? " We must say (observed
the writer) that Mr. Wilmot Horton has Leen
shamefully dealt with on this subject by his friends
on both sides of the House." (The reading of this
portion of the extract caused a good deal of laugh-
ter.) The Right Hon. Gentleman proceeded to
controvert the assertion of the Hon. Member for
Derry, that the influx of Irish poor into this coun-
try had not increased, and in support of his argu-
ment he produced a table exhibiting the increase of
the Irish poor in London since 1825. He regretted
much that he did not sec the Right Hon. Secretary
for the Home Department in his place on this occa-
sion. His Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Peel) had been
mainly instrumental in sending out an individual
(Gen. Cockburn) some time since to the Colonies, to
ascertain what facts could be collected on the subject ;
and his Right Honourable Friend stated that the
object of the mission was to see how far a
practical plan of emigration could be curried
into execution by the Government. His Right
Honourable Friend added, that for himself he was
of opinion that a rational system of emigration
would tend to relieve the country, by affording a
facility to the unemployed population of the country
to better their condition. Emigration came recom-
mended as a system of economy. The support of
the redundant population at home cost more than
their transportation to the colonies would amount to.
The expence, in fact, attendant upon their emigra.-
lien would be less than that incurred in endeavour-
ing to force employment for them in these countries.
He felt it his duty to call the attention of the House
to the sudden indisposition manifested on its part
during the present session, in respect to emigration
as a remedy for the evils of Ireland. He had, in-
deed, received communications from Ireland, stating
that the Catholic Association had pat the stamp of
their reprobation on the plan of emigration, and
that therefore it could not be thought of. There
was, in fact, a petition from that body on this sub-
ject on the tables of the House. It was written by
an individual of high authority in these matters in
Ireland, who denied that Ireland was ovcrpeopled, and
attributed its wretchedness solely to misgovern-
ment. It stated that 1,000,000 of persons might
be equally reduced to poverty in such a country by
such treatment, but that their misery would not
prove that the country ryas over-peopled. It pro-
ceeded to state, that the exports of Ireland princi-
pally consisted of all those productions which con-
stituted the prime necessaries of human life, such as
corn, butter, bacon, beef, mutton, &c. to the amount
of 8,000,000/. annually, and that a country with
sach exports could not be considered as over-popu-
lous. He (Mr. W. Horton) would not pay such a
bad compliment to the writer of that petition as to
suppose that he was sincere when he penned such a
passage as that, and that he really believed that be-
cause the produce of Ireland reached a high value,
and was therefore sold in this country, that Ireland con-
sequently was not afflicted with a redundant population.
Was it to be contended that absentees in that
country bad no right to receive their rents, because
they did not give them to be eaten up, as it were,
by .the population of Ireland ? That would be going
feu• to establish a system of agrarian law. A s►milar
effect, too, would result from carrying into execution
the project said to be entertained of introducing a
system of poor laws into Ireland, without pre-
viously allowing time for improving the existing
mode of managing property. He believed no person
would be found to contradict him, when he stated,
that if the English system of poor laws were at once
established in Ireland, the whole rental of certain
parts of that country would be completely absorbed
by it. Some individuals contended that the vacuum
caused by emigration would have a tendency to in-
crease the population. That an increase would take
place could not be denied; but the increase was
likely to be in a greater ratio where the people were
in a state of wretchedness, than where they were in
a state of comparative comfort and enjoyi►►g advan-
tages which operated as a check upon marriage.--
(Hear.)—lt had been said by an Hon. Friend that
the remedy for the unfortunate condition of Ireland
was to be found in extending encouragement to her
manufactures and agriculture. That he considered a
perfectly false doctrine. What was the stimulus to
be applied ? Was it intended to give the manufac-
tures of Ireland an advantage over those of this
country ? He could put no other constructiom on
the proposition, for how could manufactures in Ire-
land be encouraged but by the application of a bonus,
and how could that fail to be prejudicial to the ma-
nufacturing interest of this country ? With respect
to the agriculture of Ireland it already had the com-
mand of the English market. His Honourable
Friend, to whom he hail before referred, bad
said that he would render a family, consisting
of five persons, happy and comfortable in Ire-
land at one-foOrth of the expense xvhich it
would cost to remove' them to Canada. He (Mr.
Horton) would venture to assert that the fact was
just the other way. The Right Hon. Gentleman
then proceeded to advert to what be termed the
erroneous notions which had, until a late period, pre-
' veiled with respect to population, and read an ex-
tract from a pamphlet by the late Arthur Ycung, in
which the writer stated that the labouring classes
constituted the real strength of the country, and la-
mented that parish authorities imposed checks upon
their marriages and attempts to procure settlements.
That proposition was, in the abstract, very true; but
it was as ►mpossiblc to have too large a population as
it was to have too much blood in the hu►nan body,
although that blood was the principle of vitality.
The c}►ief object of the emigration cornmittee had
been to point out the superior advantage of a regular
plan of emigration. With such a plan ►t would he
incomparably mere economical to rereove the super-
abundant population►, and to improve their condition
in Ireland. He would Fay that there were 500,000
unemployed labourers in Ireland. They could not be
supported for less than 4/. per annum, which would
amount to '2,000,000/. He would undertake to remove
them to Canada at one-sixth part of that expellee.
In order to satisfy the House of the advantage which
would attend emigration on an extensive • scale, he
requested attention to the evidence given by Mr.
Felton before the Committee. That gentleman was
asked, " Could any inconvenience, in your opinion,
Arise, or would Any uncertainty of success be in-
n volved in the case of-any number of emigrants plant-

ed and located according to the system adopted in
the emigration of 1823 and 1825 ? Would the ex-
tent of their number affect their success, provided
that, in point of fact, means did exist for planting
and locating them upon the principle of advanced
capital, according to the precedent• of 1823 and
1825 ?" Mr. Felton's answer was—" None what-
ever. I conceive that the facilities of planting emi-
grants will increase with their numbers, and that in
carrying on the operation in future ate expenses will
be very much diminished. As to the extent of the
Success, I believe that the more numerous the esta-
blishment the greater chance there is of ultimate
success ; because they form a dense population, ca-
pable of assisting each other in all public works and
works of magnitude that Mily be useful for the ge-
neral interest; and as to their markets, a large num-
ber of emigrants established ;:ogether will inevitably
be accompanied by a subdivision of labour useful to
every individual interested in the settlement."
When he (Mr. Honor.) was under Secretary for
the Colonial Department, he received from a
most respectable firm a proposal to take from
the settlers in Canada payments in kind for
the money expended by Government in their trans-
portation and location, told to pay a fair price for it.
He HOW begged leave to read the following passage
from the evidence of Mr. Malthus :—" Have you
formed any opinion as to what would be the prac-
tical effects of introducing a system of poor laws into
a country circumstanced like Ireland ? I should
think that the rates would very soon alesorb the
rentals of all tyre estates." " Do you think that,
en the whole, it would have a tendency to alleviate
or to increase the misery that now prevails there?
I think on the whole, and finally, it would aggravate
it." "Do not you conceive, under the existing
feature of comparison between the British islands,
that if the population of.any district in Great Britain
were to be materially reduced.by a system of emi-
gration, one effect would he that the vacuum would
be immediately filled up with an increased number,'
of Irish ?—I should think so, certainly." " Sup-
posing that by any system of emigration an imme-
diate reduction of the population of Ireland to the
extent of half a million could be effected, do you not
think that there is in the existing order of things in
that country a tendency immediately to fill up that
vacuum ?—" There is always a natural tendency
towards the filling up of a vacuum ; but if the land-
cis in Ireland were making a change in the manage-
ment of their estates, and were altering the distribu-
tion of their land, I think it is possible that the
vacuum might not be filled up, because those mi-
serable hovels that had been deserted might be pulled
down and not be replaced." He should not detain
the House,after the patient hearing they had favoured
him with, longer than to move " that it is the opi-
nion of this House that early in the next session of
Parliament they should take into their consideration
the expediency of adopting some 'measure, whether
by emigration on an extended scale or otherwise, to
relieve the pauperism of Ireland, and better the con-
dition of the labouring classes in this country, by re-
lieving them from the fatal effects of a too great com-
petition in labour."

Mr: GRATTAN said emigration was no novelty;
it was a worn-out and antiquated mode of getting
rid of a population we had not .the sound policy to
employ advantageously. It had been acted on par-
tially in many or most estates in Ireland ; but the
Right Hon. Gentleman wanted an organized system
of emigration. To this principle he was opposed.
Let even the poor laws ba generally introduced in
preference to such an expedient, and let the land-
owners be compelled to contribute in proportion to
their tenures towards the support of the lower
classes, arid the innocently indigent.—(Hear.)
Mr. S. RICE said if the subjects of the present
motion, unhappily, by circumstances were degraded,
it had been acknowledged both in that House and
by judicial authorities, that that degradation was not
3 degradation of character, but of condition, and they
were on all hands allowed to he laborious, moral,
and honest. lie would never submit to any ar-
rangement, much less to any Act of Parliament,
which should limit the free intercourse between the
two countries, either as to commodities or persons
of every class, He believed all attempts to introduce
the poor laws into Ireland would be found vain, and
the project itself preposterous. He rather thought
a judicious plan of emigration, followed up, would,
instead of being a bar, prove an incentive to improve-
ment on the part of Irish Land-owners, who now
felt their efforts to improve their estates borne down
by the weight of a superabundant population of
eottagers upon them. It was said that it would he
unfair to impose a tax on this country to encourage
emigration, and benefit the Irish Land-owners, who
would contribute nothing to the project themselves.
Now, he was of opinion, that not only the tenants
themselves, but their landlords, would be willing to
contribute to this great object, and free themselves
from the incumbrance which pressed so discourag-
ingly on their resources and efforts. Indeed, he be-
lieved they would pay all the expenses, if Govern-
ment would only provide them with facilities. He
asked no mortgages of public property, no grants of
land in Canada to carry the project of emigration
into execution—he only asked that Government
would present to Parliament, after the resumption
of its labours next Session, such a project for en-
couraging emigration as would ensure the cordial co-
operation of both the Land-owners and their tenants,
and induce them jointly to bear the expense of the
project.

Colonel TRENCH, while he opposed the ap-
plication of amy fund to the encouragement of emi-
gration, thought that one-fourth of the money might
be beneficially employed in encouraging industry at
home. The Sub-letting Act was an incalculable
blessing to Ireland; but a systematic plan of emi-
gration would be the reverse. It would increase
instead of checking the evil of redundancy, and make
the nation in a still stronger degree than before
manufacturers of men for exportation.—(A laugh.)
Mr. M. FITZGERALD complained that his
Right Hon. Friend had been hardly dealt with, after
having encountered every discouragement from apathy
and resistant, in a question which could have no
other motive for supporting it than the interest of
Ireland and the colonies. The member for Wick-
low had sneered at him, as if he were the author of
a new scheme. But emigration was assuredly no
new, scheme. It had been going on in all countries
groatiy to their benefit. and especially in Scotland
and Ireland. Neither of his Hon. Friends appeared
to have read the report which they concurred in
condemning. They were mistaken in supposing
that it
rwas, meant to encourage . the emigration of
persons of small capital. On the contrary, it was
intended to give them every inducement to remain,
by carrying off the pauper population. • Nothing
could he more unjust than to charge on the land-
lords of Ireland the state of the pauper population.
—lf his Right Hon Friend could shape his proposi-
tion into a practical measure, the landlords of Ire-
land would be most willing to assist in carrying it
into effect. It was not intended as a system of com-
pulsory transportation, bnt as a means of carrying
into effect the natural tendency of a redundant popu-
lation to emigrate.

Mr. WARBURTON said, that in the premises
on which this question tested, there was not any
difference between the Bight Hon. Gentleman and
himself. They both of them agreed that the colo-
nies would be improved by directing the tide of
emigration to. their shores; and the sole question
between them related to the amount of prosperity
which such a system of emigration would confer
upon the mother country. Now he was of opinion,
from the data which the Right Hon. Gentleman had
himself offered that evening to the House, that if
the Right Hon. Gentleman were allowed to expend
a million and a half in emigration, he would find
that the annual increase of the population would far
exceed the annual diminution of it by emigration,
and consequently that he was expending that million
and a half of money for no earthly benefit whatever.
He thought it unfair that the country to which the
tide of emigration was to be directed, should be a
country which did not yield any commodity of value
to this country. If emigration were to be formed

n oy the
upon the principles which had been lie (1
Hon. Member for Limerick. .(e.oc‘ov iiducted
into a system, lie hoped that it wo'"ll
fh
Gentleman opposite succeeded in carrP-'lg,.
scheme of emigration into effect, the first re., Pt'
of
it. would be to elevate the remaining pauper pot ''ul"-
t
Mr. SLANEY said, that if the Rie ,
tion of Ireland in the scale of comfort, and the ns
would be to check the increasing population of the.
country by doing away with that recklessness which
led to so many early and improvident marriages.
Another benefit.of such a scheme would be, that it.
would tend collaterally to improve 'the condition of
the poor in England. Formerly the Welsh descend-
ed from the mountains of Montgomeryshire and
Merionethshire, to reap the harvests of Shropshire.
Now they were driven out of the fields or Shrop-
shire by the immense crowds of Irishmen, who nit-
nurdly came over and reaped the harvest at a much
lower rate that the Welsh could afford to doe
Again—there were a quantity of young women who •
came every year from Shropshire up to London to
gristlier the strawberries in the vicinity, and to carry
them to the different markets. He understood that
this year several of these young women had written
down to their friends, stating, that it would be quite
unnecessary for them to come np to London again,
as their market was taken away
from them by the
number of the low Irish sTomen, who worked at
• much lower wages than they iesd ever received.—
(A laugh.)
Mr. PEEL—His Right Hole iriemil proposed
that the House should pledge itself to take 11, to con-
sideration, at an curly day the next Session of Par-
liament, the propriety of adopting certain ineastir:zis
of emigration. Now, he should have objected to
much a proposition had the rocesnres to be Adopted
been precisely and definitely described; still more:.
therefore, must he object to it, when those measures-
were vaguely and indefinitely mentioned. The
words of the resolution were—" That this House
will, upon an early day in the ensuing Session of
Parliament, take into its consideration the propriety
of adopting such measures of emigration, either
upon a large and extended scale or otherwise"—
yes, the words were " or otherwise"—a form of
expression which included every thing And suggested
nothing. But the resolution went on—;` measures
of emigration either upon a large and exten;led scale
or otherwise, as may be calculated to relieve the
peeper population of Ireland, and to prevent the
injurious effects which might arise from the existente'
of that population to the labouring classes of thi§
country." Now , before lie excited arty expectations in
the country about the efficacyofany measures ofemigra-
tion,.he must know what the nature of those measures
was. Ile thought, too, that it would be better for the
House, and indeed better also for the country, if the
House would refrain from embarrassing itself by ally
pledge as to what it would do the next Session.
The case really was not justified by that urgent
necessity which alone ought to induce the House to
enter into a pledge as to its future conduct in another
Session of Parliament. Having sail this much on
this part of the subject, he would now candidly
confess that to emigration he attached considerable
importance in one point of view. He was not, how-
ever, so sanguine as his Right Hon. Friend as to the
immediate benefit which it would produce. Ile
was afraid that the Hon. Member for Shrewsbury
would still hare occasion for sortie time to lament
over the annual expulsion of the Welsh mountaineers
from the harvests of Shropshire, by the incursions of
half-starved, greedy Irishmen, and that the straw-
berry-gatherers of Shropshire wenld still be driven
from the purlieus of Covent-garden, by the troops of
low Irishwomen who had lately supplanted them in
the market, and taken from them their former tasks.
Still he was of opinion that emigration, if conducted
without too great an outlay of the public funds,
would be productive of great ultimate benefit to the
lower classes of the community in this 'country. He
Would not deny that it was his opinion, that to the
Colonies themselves a system of emigration would
be of immediate advantage. He could not, how-
ever, consent to the policy of laying out large sums
of public money to encourage emigration. The
question which. the House had to decide was simply
this,—whether it was better to let the productive
capital remain where it now wag, or to transfer it for
contingent advantages to another quarter ? He had
no objection to giving every reasonable facility to
emigration; but such facility should be of a
local nature, for he could see no cheek whatever
to the expectations which would be excited sup-
posing the •Government were to say that it had
5,000,0001. at its disposal to promote emigration.
He would take that opportunity of saving, that it
was a great mistake to suppose that the project of
his Right H Friend was a project of forced emi-
gration. His Right Hon. Friend did not seek to
compel any man to quit his country against Iris will:
quite the reverse,—he only wished to give them fa-
cilities, if voluntarily inclined to try their fortune iu
another country. He saw many diffletilties in the
practical consideration of this question. In what
mode, for instance, the Irish pauper was to be selec-
ted for emigration ; how far it was fair to call upon
the people of England, who had to pay their own
poor's rates, to defray the expenditure for relieving
the Irish landlords from theirs.—(Hear.) ; and
likewise how it was possible to provide that con-
staid check upon the desire for emigration which
must always operate while pecuniary encouragement
was held out. Against affording new facilities for
mortgaging the poor's-rates, there must naturally
arise a variety of objections. The hest limit, at pre-
sent, to their undue extension was, that the Ines-.
sure of the screw wits immediately felt; but if they
mice allowed the present generation to cast the bur-
den upon their successors, they would introduce a
sort of funded system into the poor's-rates, the evils
of which it would be difficult to avert. Among the
variety of other considerations there was this like-
wise to be borne in mind,—that a fixed plan of emi-
gration assumed that the paupers' necessities required
a permanent change, which was not the fact, for his
condition was dependent on the fluctuation of labour.
Ile had not adverted to the natural and just facilities
which the Government might give to volunteer emi-
grants ho meant of that class whose own means
were sufficient to hold out a prospect of their form-
ing a nucleus for a labouring population in the eo-
lies. And here he thought it would be highly ad-
vantageous for his valuable friend (Colonel Cock-
burn) to prosecute his inquiries in North America
for the Colonial-office, so that persons desirous of
embarking adequate capital should have some place
to which they could resort for Lone fete information
respecting the qualities and geneses! condition of the
ati(l where they might wish to settle. And upon
this point any expence ofa moderate nature to which
the country might be put, would be ultimately coin-
abrupt or imme-
lteeaftotlitehet"(t'olinsiitmioliiiniotfy;anbyut he thought, if
and carefully regulated, it mightbe
ren-
dered subservient to the attainment of eventual be-
nefit. He hoped, however, that his Right Hon.
Friend would not press his motion to a division.
Mr. W. MORTON withdrew-his motion.
IRISH CHURCH LIVINGS.
Sir J. NEWPORT brought forward his motion
for an Address for an Inquiry into the State of the
Established Church of Ireland, respecting unions of
parishes, pluralities of livings, cad provision for the
Curates officiating therein. The Right Hon. Bart.
then read his Resolutions, adding some explanatory
remarks that were inaudible in the gallery, but which
were understood to contain the same declarations as
the following Resolutions conrcyed :
" Resolved, That it appears to this House, from
the returns laid before them, that 1,153 parishes of
the several dioceses of Ireland, hieing more than one-
half of the entire number, have entered into an
egreement for the payment of 278,037/. 155. for
their tithes, under the Computation Act for ecclesi-
astical incumbents.

" That it appears.. to this Committee from the
same return', that the above 1,163 pacilies, teg(
ther with 298 pitriAes Which have not compounded,
are united in 796 benefices.

" That it appears the average income of each is

447/.• exelusivf; of the Oche lands and tithes of the
298 who ha%, 'nut compounded," and " it appears
there are PAO unbenefieed curates now officiating in
Ireland.: • 11l
s motion was, that these Resolutions
shoul'i accompany the Address which he now wished
to srth7mit•for the adoption of the House.
'rue CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
wfiuld admit that an union of great parishes was a
'positive evil in most cases; but it was necessary in
some where the income was so small as not to
amount to more than 101. or 151. a year : but to pre •
vent any large unions in future; an Act had been
passed last year, enacting that in future no union
should take place, without the consent of the Lord
Lieutenant'iti.Couneil. As to the unions already
made, they would cease at the death of the present
incumbents, and after that no fresh unions of the
saw.: parishes should take place, without the sane-
tir..nt he had already mentioned. As to pluralities,
steps had been taken to prevent them. With re-
„ spect to curacies, he should be ashamed to resist any
measure for the benefit of curates, if he himself had
not introduced a measure by which they were to be
regulated as in England, according to the value and
population of the incumbency. Seeing then that
the remedy desired was already provided by law, lie
felt himself justified in meeting' the Hon. Baronet's
motion by the-previous question.
Mr. M. FITZGERALD supported the original
motion.
Mr. L. FOSTER supported the amendment for
the previous question.
Sir .. NEWPORT replied ; after which the
HotAe d.vided, when the numbers appeared-
-I.ar the previous question 59
Against it•
Majority against the Right lion. Baronet' motion —lt
Dr. PLIILLIMORE postponed his motion on
the subject of the registrars of the Prerogative Court
of Canterbury, till to-morrow (this day.)
Mr. N. CALVERT rose to move for leave to
bring in a Bill to disqualify certain voters for the
borough of East Retford from voting for Members
to serve in Parliament. As this topic had been
already so amply discussed, he did not deem it ne-
cessary to make any observation further than that
lie intended to 'follow the course adopted by the
House in the, Case of Stockbridge.
On the, question being put, the House went into
divis:ion—

Ayes, 74 I Noes, 26 I Majority, 48.
The House then resolved itself into a Committee
on the Game Bill.

Sir H. VIVIAN opposed the Bill.
Sir M. W. RIPLEY thought that promoting the
legalized sale of game would, on the contrary,- be
the most effectual means of decreasing poaching.
BENETT also supported the Bill.
Sic J. SHELLEY disapproved of the present
Bill, as it would not go to the prevention of the
crime of poaching, notwithstanding what had been
advanced. Asa sportsman, ho generally disliked
the principle of selling game, and should always
continue to dislike it, He would acknowledge, in
justice to this Bill, that it was the best bad thing he
kid ever seen.—(Laughter.)
Mr. S. WORTLEY had felt, in common with
the rest of the House, that sonic alteration in the
existing laws was essentially necessary. It seemed,
therefore, the best way to set about a reform in the
:.}stem generally, and with that view he had intro--
duced the Bill.

On the clause extending the privilege of killing
game to the occupiers of 20 acres of land being put,
Sir J. SHELLEY proposed an amendment, con-
fining the privilege to occupiers of 50 acres of land
and upwards.
The House then divided, when there appeared—
For the amendment 2l
Against it ' 3l
Majority —lo
The original clause was then agreed to. The
other clauses of the Bill were then severally put and
agreed to. The Howie resumed, and the Report
wits ordered to be received this day.
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed
of, and the House adjourned at Three o'Clock.

ON MIL )1. A. TAILOR'S
OF 230,000/. To TIIF
OUT TIM CONANT 01
Althurp, Viscount.
Baring, A.
B.tring,
Raring, W. B.
Bernal, B.
Brougham, Henry
Brnughlia, James
Burdett, Sir Franci..
Byng, George
Belgrave. Viscount
Benett, John
Calvert, C.
Calvert, N.
Carter, J.
Cavendish, Lord G.
('.ice, IL 0.
Clifton, Viscount
Clements, Viscount
Clive, K
Colborne, N. R.
Dawson, A.
Davies, T.
Denison, W.
Duncannon, Vise.
Hondas, Hon. Thos.
Dundas, Hon. G.
Duneombe,
Davenport, E. D.
Ducane, Peter
Ebrington, Viscount
Easthope, J.
Ellison,
Fazakerley, J. N.
Fergusson, Sir It.
Fortescue, Hon. G.
French, Arthur
Graham, Sir J.

' OF THE M1NO:
MOTION, ILEILATIVE

E BUILDING OF DITKE
fr• rARLIAMENT.—JUNE.
Grattan, James
Grosvenor, Hon. IL
Gordon, IL
Guest, J. J.
Heneage, G. F.
Hobhouse, J. C.
Howard, Henry
Hume, Joseph
Hurst, R.
Hutchinson,
Howick, Lord
jephson, C. 0.
Labe:tit:hem, 11.
Lamb, Hon. G.
Lester, B. L
Lloyd, Sir E. P.
Langston, James
Lumley, J. S.
Macdonald, Sir Jas.
Marjoribanks, S.
Marshall, J.
Martin, J.
Maxwell, John
Mil[pink, M.
Monck, J. B.
Normanby, Viscount
Nugent, Lord
Noel, Sir U.
o,borne, Lord F.
Pahner, C. F.
Pendarves, E. W.
Philips, Sir G.
Philips, U.
Ponsonby, Hon. W.
Ponsonby, Hon. G.
Poyntz, W. S.
Protheroe, Ed.

LIST OF THE MINDS
or TWENTY-SIX WOO VOTED AGAINST TRH IP
TO DISQUALIFY CERTAIN VOTERS OF
Baring, W. B. Euston, Earl of
Blake, Sir F. Ebrington, Vise.
`*.*clay, David Fyler, T. B.
Cltolmeley, Sir M. J. Hume, Joseph
Cave, E. 0. Grattan, James
Carter, John 'Lam:), Hon. G.
Dawson, A. Marjoribanks, S.
Davenport, F. D. Maxwell; John
Dundos, Sir 'l'. Nugent, Lord
Militias, 11011.'1'. Monck, J. B.

tITY
O THE APPROPRIATION
[NtiIIAM PALACE wiTh-
-24.
Price, Robert
Rice, I'. S.
Rickford, W.
Robinson, Si* G.
Rowley, Sir W.
Russell, Lord John
Russell, J.
Ru►nbold, C. E.
Robinson, George
Sebright, Sir John
Sefton, Earl of
Sauey, R. A.
Smith, W.
Stuart, Villiers
Stanley, Lord
Stewart, Sir M.
Talbot, R. W.
Thomson, C. P.
Townsbend, Lord J.
Wait Finial', A Id.
Warburton, H. •
Webb, Col.
Western, C. C.
Whitbread, W. H:
Wilbraham, G.
Wood,
Wood, J.
Wood, C.
Wrottesley, Sir J.

TELLERS.
Stanley, Hun. E. G,
P.tylor, M. A.

• PAIRED OFF.
Knight, K. •
Cholmeley, Sir M. J.

iTRODUCTION OF • JILL
EAST RET'FORD.
Rumbold, C. E.
Stewart, Sir M.
Philips, G. R.
Thomson, C. P.
Warburton, IL
Wood, J.

TELLERS.
Graham, Sir J.
Gurney, H.

LIST OF' THE MINORITY
OF FORTY-EIGIIT WHO voTttn WITH SIR .1. NEWPORT " FOR AN AO-
DRLSS TU Ills MAJk:OTY, THAT HE WOULD BE PLEASED TO DIRECT
AN INQUIRY INTO THE srves: OF UNIONS, OF' IllE PLURALITIES,
AND OF l'IlE CONDITION OF TDB CURATES IN 'rue CHURCH OF
IRELAND."
Benett, John
Baring, \V. B.
Baring, F.
Sir F.
Bentinek, Lord G.
Cave, R. 0.
Calthorpe, lion.
Carter, J.
CAvett, N.
Clive, E. B.
Collacrne, N. R.
Cliohneley, Sir M. J
Davenport, E. D.
Dawson, A.
Oundas, Sir T.
Dundas, Ilon. T.
Ebrington, Vise.
EitAani, Earl of

Giaham, Sir J.
Grattan, James
Grattan, Henry
thane, Joseph
Lamb, Hon. G.
Lambert, J. S.
Lumley, J. S.
Maberly, W. L.
Marjoribanks, S.
Monet, J. IL
Maxwell, J.

Rice, T. S.
Ridley, Sir M. W.
Smith, W.
Stuart, Villiers
Stanley, Lord
Tennyson, C.
Thomson, C. P.
Townshend, Lord C.
Wood, J.
Wilson, Sir It.
Warburton, H.
Warrender, Rt. Hn.
Sir G..

IMartin, J.
INPDonald, Sir J.
Newport, Sir J
Nugent, Lard
Palmer, C. Fyshe
Philips, G. H.
Phillimore, Dr.

• TELLERS.
Stanley, K
Fltzgentld,Rt.Hn.lll

Mn. BROOKES'S .CELEBRATED MUSEUM
AND THEATRE OF .ANATOM 1", BLENIIEI3L-STREET.-On
the 14th of the next month, the Sale of this memorable
Museum will commence, and it should seem will continue
for twenty‘five succeeding days, always excepting Sundays
and Mondays. The advertisement is tolerably descriptive
of the treat which is in store for the learned in Anatomy ;
it ranks unquestionably as the finest that ever was congre-
gated together for the benefit of the Scientific. The follow-
ing concise compliment to the great Artist who has accom-
plished this Wonder of the World, is alike creditable to
Mr. GEORGE ROBINS, wino has the honour to direct this
sale, and to the gifted; individual of wiling it speaks :
This collection forms thefinest and by far the most rare
and estimable Exhibition that ever was presented to the at-
tention and for the admiration of the Medical world ; one
which, to the latest period, will reflect hnmortal honour
on the zealous and' highly gifted individual, who, at an
expense of 30,0001. and
.a sacrifice- of thirty years of his
life,' hasaccomplished this National and Herculean task."
The following is an extract of a letter from a
gentleman of distinction,' a native of this city, now on his
travels, to his brother
Lucerne (Switzerland), June 5.
" There are at present 1,500 men employed in making
a superb carriage-road over Mount St. Gothard. It i„
surprising how three poor cantons, Lucerne, Uri, and Un-
derwald, could raise a sum sufficient for such an undertak-
ing. It is expected to be finished in October, 1829. 1
saw a Brazilian man-of-war at Genoa, mounting 64 guns,
with a complement of 650 men, which arrived with des-
patches for the Emperor of Austria, and it is supposed that,
it will carry off an Austrian Princess, as a Sposa for his
Brazilian Majesty."—Cork Constitution.