The Sun.
London, England, 1817-03-12 00:00:00

POLICE IN IRT: SND

Mr. Pan rose for the puiprise of asking lea ie
to bring in a Bill to amend the Act which be had
introduced during the Session of 1814, to provide
for the better execution of the laws in Ireland, by
enabling the Lord Liebtenant to appoint, in the
ilisttirlred districts, a superintending Magistrate
and a sufficient number of peace officers. Ann-
ther-Act, the InsOrreetion-Act,-bad passed at the
same time, Ina on this he should for-the present
offer no continent. If he 'were called upon. to
state what measure he thotight would have the
most beneficial effect in Ireland, he should reply,
the enhstiftation of an effective civilpower lit dot
country. When he considered, the disturbances
and outrages, which were the consequences of
ancient feints in Ireland, he was not astonished at
their existence., but at their not befit:{; still more
considerable.„ Ireland had the same Courts, the
same Laawi, and the same Judges as tlreat Britain •
but it was nthcrably deficient in the minor

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agents. of , Police, who were so `necessary to
the execution of those -laws. Their place was
now supplied in a manner both object-it-triable.
and expensive, by the employment of a military
force, which was at all 011)6 a cumbrous and bur-
thensonte instrument. Yet there was
.at present
no other.to be used for the suppression of illicit.
distillation, the prevention of future, and the de-
tection of past offences. How inapplicable it was.
to the attainment of those two objects could not
fail to strike every mind. It was necessary to
consider of the means best calculated to supply
the deficiency of the Civil Power, and to deter-
miue, after a balance of evils, in favour of a mode
less expew,ive, more constitutional, and far more
effective tkan the employment of the military.—
(Hear, hear !)—The expellee attendant on the
latter mode did not consist merely its the pay of
soldiers ; the erection of barracks cost considerable
sums. It also. occasioned the subversion .of the
discipline of the most orderly regiments. The
men were divided into smell parties, and after
having been employed in the humiliation of the
greatest despotism that had ever existed, and
while they still wore the badges of hpnonr won in
battle on their breasts, they were reduced to put
down private stilli, and to lose that discipline iji
which they were indebted for a large portion of
their glory. It was with a view to dispense with
employment of the military. that he had 'pro-
posed the Act, of 1814, which had met with the
unaninionsnpprolmtion of the !loose. • Ile trusted
that his present meesure would be equally well
received, especially by an lion. Baronet opposite
(S.ir John Newport), whom he bad always found,
though.opposed to him in politics, more desirous
to provide efficient measures for the good of
the country of which lie was a native, and to
which be did honour, than to throw any
difficulty' in their way, because they proceeded
from his politiCal antagonists.--(Hear, Leer
The Act of 1814 had been carried into execution
in six instances. Three cases had. occurred in the
county of Tipperary, and the others in the coun-
ties of, LoWth, Clare, 'and'Carrick. The people
looked upon the operation of this Act as a source of
peat and lasting benefit, and When the regularity
and obedience to the laws Willett it produced,were
considered, the expellee with which it was et.
tended would be looked upon as a cheap purchase.
In some cases, however, it had not been possible
to carry it into execution, on account of that very
expence, the wholeof which was, according to
the Act as it now stood, to be borne by the dis-
turbed diitricts. Some parts were so poor and so
exhausted that they could not support that expence.
lu one instance, Government had.been compelled
to assume' a power not given
.by the law. This
was in a certain district of the county of Done-
gal, in theextremenorth of Ireland, where illicit
distillation was carried on to themost considerable
extent, and the operatiqo of the laws was com-
pletely obstructed. Persons, there were
.assisted
with horses and large bodies. of meu, whenever
any effort was made to take them. A Magistrate
had been sent to that district with fifty dragoons
to protect him, over whom he acted as-Brigade
111ajor, and the expence, which was pretty con.;
siderable, was borne by the Government. It was
to provide against the recurrence of 'such cases
that he should propose the followitsg ettacttneuts.
lay the law as it now, stood, the appoitstment of
peace oflieers in ailistriet
,could not take place
Without that of a superintending Magistrate, so
that if another district became disturbed, the num-
ber of officers could not be increased without also
augmenting the magisterial staff. He should now
propose' to dispense with the-latter, and to place
MO at, more districts undue the superintendence of
the same tnagistrate,, with a 'sufficient. number of
constables. The next alteration would be to give
the Lord Lieutenant the ,power of determining
what portion of the expence should be borne by
the disturbed district, and what by the public
purse, and to let the, forMer.ect as a fine oh the
seat'Of the d;sturbances. The last woad: be, in
order to provide against the abuse of this power,
to enact that returns should be made 'every' Ses-
sion to Parliament, of the instances in which the
Act had been applied, of 'the expences in-
elated, and of the appointmenti made 'under
it. lie allowed that it would be •Mbre agree:
able to employ the population to. keep the'
peace, as in England ; but he appealed ,to
any Gentleman conversant with Ireland, whether
title!) .tt plan would he practicable. It was not
more than forty years sioce any police whatever
had been-introduced into Ireland, and it would be
hopeless to find indivinualfready to asinine the
dangerous situation of peace-Oflieers in that coun-
try, without providing an 'alleenate remuneration
for,them. Ile had flow the: satisfaction to state,
that not only was Ireland exempted, from the
Suspension of the Habeas Corpus, and the Bill to
prevent Seditious Assemblies, hut that it Was in-
tended -to reduce the militnry force employed in
that couutry'from twenty'-five thousand to twenty-
two thousand nien. The ordnance, which- con-
sisted of seven brigadeti and 400 guns, would'also
be diminished to 200 guns, and the reduction of
expence would be proportionate: Should the.
present measure relieve Ireland from only t
cvo
regiments, yet the saving woultt be very consider-
ahle; It was not merely on the point of expence,
howeveri that the lIIICEISMC Was iMportent ; it
would habituate the Irish people to acknowledge
a Civil Power, -awl it weithl then become practi-'
Cable to dispense with 'that: more severe and ..-
pensive mode, which it Avas-still necessary for time
the
present to adopt. lie concluded by asking leave
to bring in a Mil to amend the bib of his Majes-
ty, and expressing his disposition to give every'
!9iSPiurrtj".llNitiewtoeoltiTsCitlisesvetrbdeontlibeat:durteltahtlitilYie greatest
Islv(omunldwbielieliblehe;intHnrotltettilo°ll)l.loctf ca6lirreegi'ularirl'rre':)llli6ctel,
substituted to that military 'force which bad Outraged time -
.
the
felelleintghsotillg%lt alitimeen pl atedititint'ewc,th-licelnlistiotef
Bill was founded strictly constitutiOnal, and that
thee
rairtureesnet7 -mode was e steps o
retracing the f C
:end returning. towards the right road.
front which they had deviated'. Alters it few words
front llr. CJLICHRSTER anti Mr. V. FLTZGERALbo
Wave was given to bring
.its the Bill.
• ARM
ugY FAITIMATES.*
atr.lsactoneN broht upthe report of the army
estimates,
Mr, CALCRAFT said, he xhould 'defer any obser-,

lion oilfu
. .
rhtion be Might ,w 1,31 tomake on tl.isarli
it)lio.ertanntiti
the Committee of. Finance had made thtir,
butit that Committee (lid not recommenit!
his duty to call the attention of the IlomeW
very
The resolutions were then read, and lir°,
Mr., CuawEN observed, that io esamin,
hire
laid before the llooset it BPIP!:Cart:
tint that there was a charge of lire till
provided.for.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER p.
that that sum was provided for by voles °I,M!,
Sessiuns ; bitt, front various causes, 4'l'l
hear l) ii
yet been liquidated. CO
in answer to some remarks from Mr.Ca, i
istuabriyeefto.rie(,abecar,sloall enott,!
the Right lion. Gentleman said, be i46/0,
be understood that -he should have t' Pl°6,
addition to the unfunded debt, with retF.,t
Exchequer Bills, in order to meet the ~teli;i
!settees of the country. 11e hoped, ina:ij
Session of Parliament, that they sholtk:rA
to bring these securities to a
issue. It was certainly a remarkable betil:to
the metropolis there was a superabuodaneeo
pita' ; and if qny depression were fell iatb!
try,-it would Ge redeemed by the natural fire.
of events. ,Front the flourishing state 01.1„d
ney.market in the metropolis he ettallsoio
Most' sanguine hope that all tlitlicultlo
country would be speedily removed! !ost
more fio4
Weneficial effects had bait already r%Perio
amid lie could not be iuthiced to beile;eo„iti
tteht(l'idiedi.n-illT'etimierree t‘vva.(4s6tlldri obbeviC:tioctimslerr::litiei3lll°°
()Cour Manufactures and Conon:lce. ~0,1111
Mr. GALC RAFT said, if the couotry ellr;)
relief;i it was :entirely owing to a 110°11'0
hme taxes. This was the only advantege,;so
yet experience.ci; but cconniny)tud re:T.r,tt
had not been carried to that own wit'c
l'c'r. ,),.1
Pie hod a right to detnand.;--(firtr,
state .of the funds bad merely (l
int Pe:161:01
lend money at a lower rate of 100 1
tycitild otherwise have rearmired. , „yetoti.l
Lord PALMBRSTO3 then moved far ie. vou,
Mr. II 11. OGSDE
in_ time Mutiny Bill, which was agreetiflthisi
Bill was read a first tirpe,
amid miles:di°
again to-unarrOvr. ,
Bill for more effectually preveanng
meetings. IP
Si , ' tipjett! 01
Sir J. NawpoaT observed, his - ' bee,'
EDNlTroyuSgiff;;lnifiiterAtepoirtot,!ili,
sters bad stated, that this Bill WO 10. I
ow, 1111'
tt Gre.E4 Britain : he nosy Wishcd IClholpitg4l;°
her. Ireland was to be expressly ettc-'
its 0 • ?
perat tons
1 ni
The CHANCELLOR of the Excncoo
it was 1•0i
Confi'hed to Great lirition. A 00°1.
Sir J. NEWPORT then suggesteu'icoiriii:;
should be added to that effect' °'lt,„' 010
thattitmeree
on could Fri
Friday
Let
mg
M et t i II liot 000
be should think it necessor '''' obicp,',o
observations on the Orange
Presumed to dictate to the couotrl/ !
should, not,be done within it. , 4,Eatgita
The CHANCELLOR of.. the 0,c1,;;„ JP!'
Ireland
next.nobti ietctettriletd°illll ctil_lA:`%-t‘t.ta.•l 1
year,lire
14
ow; tell. )11
~„, e,;00,,
e flousc theft
'
Thel6l3:l Was then ordered to be ,
NAVY ESTIMA'ri, 000,1" tat
Me. Cao •
~:.tuft, on the part or A° itirtlcei.o
.“1,, who teas not then preseat, gii toLoil
on next, the Navy.l;stiaol`yotioto'
—d
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have been led to surmise be real
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minations or D.sieaters. if it l'e bitlidP,Of
quest pvrot!ssion to joist the !Ic'c' ' t tol 110
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may deterinme to preseot an' lit. 009 le
gent, instead of batwing hi„ se. 0 to 011,t.
of those from whom be (lisioli ? orOO4P
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ton-house he had the deceacY `,l time Plijididl
his doing, or was it by anti 'it cse4eirel
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find, that' opposition to the ' ~e Anti', 011`,t'
enough to bring men into fArl/41170011i:oc
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than its sonaping PPP,ipil
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side Point, upon her beam et),; . 'bat I.o'l
one of her masts, site ril',llte,,fholaai
to add; one Of her crew t
Grange,) lost his life.

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