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London, England, 1845-05-08 00:00:00

in the gallery, was understood to say that the
and Gallant Member who had just sat dowa
he ' h d
hadmade charges against him the most extraordinextraordinary
ever heard. No doubt he was responsible
for this Bill, and that re.ponsibility he was ready to un;
dertake.—(Hear, heft.,). He had heard a-great deal
and he
upon this subject
had , .n reference to army surgeons; from
his.-t listened Gallant wu,ir,i.Ladtthetnhtiioond tioiiromu:nh
tthheatsuhhaidecfta:ll,cvnheiur he
imnoreoidu ed it, He was ready to adm.t that there al
tq be complained of in the old supplealentas
cha,;:er, by the surgeon
which, amongst other provisions,
the new
self-elected, and sworn to abide by certain WI(
new Act proposed to remedy that evil.;
and several others, which the House and the ,
ss
gtl,raeesastaaamwnae(riethatadvantages
could easily judge of when the Bill came before the ileus-eed
London as a school of medicine and surgery Posses oe
pre-eminento t h e other
students from London, by presenting advantages eftitt:ch
aeldroeveaannliattages from its locality.
other description. In order to przvent the effeels ia.
attractions, he had introduced a safeguard ; '''dio-
stanee, he had increased the terms of residence etiit not
hburgh from one year to two, so ti;at students loighad
e attracted from London to Edinburgh- .11,e oal
stowed more time and attention on this subject than
t°
tieusrawllyhich did not postr
most on any other. He had endeadviosuPlesded;isait-nlini:-
make the measure useful and acceptable to the °°t. tbe
s
niand notiwe'imtlrhsetrandfionrg
Fthineshoprrye,cl he ictions° ° con-
Honourablefid, nt that it would receive the stilZr_t at the
°amble
generalt_ientieai
aphr a
thec ti t oner
Members. Hfoer
lohusghhotr y the 111.11.5 19.4
night, at the meeting in Hanover-square7Vhut.°l.l,s',:s;tl
general practitioners were not in favour of his lye
ill
he (Sir J. Graham) mistook not, only ten or twe a the
viduals at the meeting were in favour of the views
Hon. Member. is
Mr. WAKLEY—The Right Hon. GentieUlan
Ole
misinformed. he ver,
Sir JAMES GRAHAM went on to say that - aerie
tinted with the gentlemen who represente oft,. gsicio
practitioners, and he knew the Colleges „"'Yeded i°
and Surgeons approved of it ; thus, having 31%f:dies,
obtaining the approbation of the three grunt 1' the
thought there would be little difficulty in roofer
measure generally acceptable. ,;en on tile
Mr. WAKLEY observed that he had a note his prig
paper for Thursday week, and would resetlenightiph:
cipal observations for that occasion. I's% to w°`".„4-
attended a meeting of general practitioller"%aion
the Right Hon. Baronet alluded, and his ,°„,131-4, preseL
that if the question were put, two-thirds of those of sm;
bvcveonelonl ledgaebneyo
fitnhi fnagvolaikreo Surgeons.vf thee
ongeneraldeclared . f
trhda
heel lir
nboaescletitioi
exhibited at
but only such dissension as difference of opi gentle
engendered. He had been informed by those e pVI
connected with the Apothecaries'-hall who wcei to a ser„„:
that from the commencement they had looke ken joy:,
rate incorporation, and every step theY had ct•
ference to this measure was guided by that ohJ;rst et%
certainly surprised him, it being the i.,iteeti°4
he had been made aware of such atil•sviijoiefiii
General practitioners were engaged in poor-_ociety.
tia
and were allowed to practise generally in sffairs.
they were qualified to manage their own not ell°0(
were considered worthy of a licence, wily. The 4%1
them to manage a a college of their own res'ai
twenty-two was considered sufficient to tillaili?,,,,ateialb of
practitioner, who was allowed to act as s Pthe Oi,/
a surgeon, Mr a surgeon-accoucheur, to 6.00
surgeon or physician was not to 'be W171056'0°
one under twenty-six years of age. Suc ynd
was perfectly unreasonable and absurd. j'actiow bit
Sir JAMES GRAHAM defended the o,„l3'lrober
considered the terms which the Bon. .a3x The o:,t
Wakley) had applied to it quite uncalled for.
,he st,nl';,o
of twenty-two was fixed as that at which `riaitt_Aedtar
should receive his first examination, and bi,eal);eorr" sat
practieo generally; after which he would "
A to a s. 60'
study four years longer, and be subj,e_Aeler to all:ricer
strict examination before being admitted -nois he
the two grades of physician or surgeon. 0
sidered nothing but a fair regulation.
Mr. WARBURTON said, that the'ugoill to ensure
every care taken by the provisions of
the proper examination of the students Pre owl: Icy
entering upon practice, yet he could not of 411 of
mere examination was any sufficient test pryer.,l
tion. There ought, in his opinion, to be
,sfe'apils
inquiring into the previous education of will their di•
the course that was prescribed to thew 6003 in
schools and colleges. Neither was he elt°-ahll"
fled with the constitution of the Board offidt
his opinion it would have been better to the batlOjeo
ruination, as was originally proposed, 10,_,,n effie
the Crown for the Government, because tPl'
't
controul might be exercised over the spec' ,ns
Mr. HAWES (lid not anticipate that
ualZhave 090,
ference would be made to him, or hew ° now tilst the
down with documentary evidence t° s
bulk of the profession were 1e
the P°-
evi , rable.at°ll
principle of the measure before lieb bis
(Hear, hear.) The Committee of 72, do; so sligns,
Friend the Member for Finsbury this hyiouthsetreo:::oo
padbestPwee:r3e,poOreOseloistoi
ingly, represented a body °` ht tbel be
4,000 of the profession, and he thong Of these •oles°
a considerable portion of the whole. 1)6017 trO
nearly all the assents in writing to the °";tment
the Bill. With respect to the sPP°,,`;7, goner'h-re
Board of Health, he agreed with u` ,Nool.d "40
Friend the Member for Kendal that - -
been better to have left the nomination Totilhflecl
Crown. There was one other point vihte-4 snie,°,„"eo(
bonnootthti cheo•edre,dauncds
education
nt hoofutghhet
mtheadtictahlesrteusdheonutslr rh.le°bCoo,,j7itiltb
Physicians and Surgeons, in Ediahre bs'd,fre.o2
regard to the opposition of the prof?ssion, ivbere,,Fed
his Hon. Friend, attended a meeting last nighAtivisiO3,l3o9
2asmo
a onlyttote3r 0
wO
twelve
wiec
erhls
vow:
as
or s wsteuhrpie
thirteen
present,tc,ro et rnpersons ~ rd
eb ry hisa
nn sd
wHo h 1
no
r!e;.iree do
were o; 0 s e
oi
to the Bill before the tO ouse. ffetterkoe °
Mr. MACAULAY, agreeing with the - 0° 0
,4)
"
ratter of the Bill, cordially expressed his 3,110 , pri°,o,o
the measure and his perfect satisfaction of
tvo arriocl
on which it was based. There were one or
roper
of detail which be would oppose when tbe,Pg ober
arrived for their consideration. Ose told!
certainly (if not forestalled by the Merull°lllber/ f th"
for Finsbury, or some other Honourable want e
the 11.1 use upon, namely, that the apP°ll,lo. joi°ll
Court of Examiners should rest with theth Ed
Sir JAMES GRAHAM coincided with for „la
giber SP
expressed by the Right Honourable i-vle raitier3gienite
burgh, that the power of appointing the otn,, eow: eon'
rest with the Crown, but there were so 1117 eats
interests to soothe, and so many rival inteoe. aed
sider, that it made the selection a &I:flea% earesst th 9
Mr. WAKLEY agreed with the oPhli° rgb,
the Hon. Members for Kendal and Edinhllth to fie
nomination of this Court should rest wieii at
_ill 0009 i;
He did not see the necessity for a C°ll°,. and 1-7.!
pow jowl
should prefer that the whole of the
bility were concentrated in one body sPP°
sod t" $
oDB
Crown,
The Bill was then read a second tune'
Committee, and was reported. ,n
COLLEGES OF SURGEONS Alw r 0 J" r the
the report was ordered to be broug-
This Bill passed through Committee,hf o.te
holidays, rr°(7- se"
The Courts of Common Law (Scotian
ad .
was read a second time. :it was re ad
The Court of Sessions (Scotland) B"' P-
. posea°,loA'
cond time. dis o e
The other orders of the day were the° to 00e
the House adjourned at Twenty Minutes

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RAILWAY COMMIrI I
(YESTERDAY 5
Aff0119514111
Group F.
LONDON, WORCESTER, AND SOUT/4 ST t fi''''
RAILWAY• ' e ftiffi'
This Committee met to-day at twelve ot•
It l'
^cloe , rof tb'
F. Shaw in the chair. topl'°'
The room was
Committee. On our r
immediately
eturnl''o3,
reps tof o,', the , . eloared os the re"A*4 J ,'(
The Cliatuta•N intimated 'that with the ' be.°:ern, °
tThreade, the statement of counsel, and them
„e fore 1.- ,
specting
ccnsidered theyhsd sufficient region, eira 'll'
Mr.
Atraffic, without going further into that Quo,. oe,„ i r,
1:8TIN replitd that there was no rhictro(W' l'c
Great. Companies respecting the tufficicneY of t , thereoiel
port a line of railway in the dh trictid,
ryeeq-eireo ,Or
peculiarities in the kind of traffic which wou .5 case
,ijeaCrini
be examinedan about it, in order to do justice to
that the e,itti Ll'dyt
Afterunderstanding being expressued :onn'si,,oll;lo,oelr
traffic should be abridged as much asp ossi le,
.jor, 010 lid.'
justice to the subject of Inquiry, the exarron t eo'lViste''
resumed. , i was tiri. I e' ill'
Mr. R. Smith, •
mining agent to Lord NNarr , ward ~,,oly ~,,
Th
ere wove 22 hia his l°, ~rili'w ,0 II„
Lord st furnaces on • tea r oe " f'''
Ward's mining property was of
00 .. ri'l ..
r 'rot' .. th'' , sllr
the parish of Kingswinford. The 0. :ting O. tieciPtbi
district was 1,400,000 tons yearly. lithe h_la.erols,Pethe,,r oaf!
tity of iron stone there was required other J."`" Allr Ow ws
coal and lime, to the amount of 4 212,000 tout. wuts, , a"
quantity of material annually in Motion Would 13,e6',215 tlcti
tons.the The daily material in 'motion ws' .th' di‘tof tilil'COv
- hourly 1,333. The export trade 01:, theeneir° 40104
He 224,000,
c principally to the :2orth, a;1.1 0. d to tbe,o0141!0.0
onsidered the narrow gauge best o''''' in ` hAr/P r
;.cel edit c., tty'
as it would prevent the change of earl7l , s gres •S
'
coal. The coal of the district was very fr. n eciat,
.erd
it from one ,i dePre 01/61d dlls`P
„-.. waggon to another won.. Ihe 30
0,4
1-litherto they had depended on the canal, hu ponl'ttiels,
insufficient. He was a shareholder in the Cahalan.. freer ~,,,aer ,
also become a shareholder in the Railway ConWf the jus.-to tb:
the desire
that had induced him to be a shareholcdeor co° o,l36tition I) t,
desire of affiirding the fullest poo,ihle Itc._:t eo°Pefernrijc..
d.wistrict. He considere his experience, ilia that °° rtit'll
• better he .the''
to een canals was ours,injur and thought it tie ,
hinds 0,,,)
should regulate the rates of traffic for the Pr°tecn oet orVii,
l‘lr. ALLEN said that he wished to imp on I, of Iriefid_,.jb
CommitteeFr the distinction in the relatileSPOl'voed
not Co"„.
d (Mr. Whatele,) and himself. 14° irrniog ri the r,,,
neared for some indvidual shareholders in the coed e' iof
‘,..
titionExtension Company, whereas he (31r. Alle,r) 31 lie 01: of t.;,,,- ,
.a,of the Company under their corranon se.,.e orreetimitive ,
..down this distinction, as he did not t ppe.;e.'"oiti r.,,i,1 tw
Company, but was there rather to elicit this P,. to " '
. ,fluco, . d‘
compensation to his clients He stated thio tal..e. . esi
know what course his Learned Friend intended. te Wit° 114
~,, the ~„, of 40
Mr. WHATILLEY then proceeded to exert'. woos.' _...ste,'
the to 01 1"
specting the damages which it was alleged ,i, 19bil
railway would inflict on the canal without leading
~tisi,.-' tat
result. v...... ,i, c.".„ I, y
Cross-examined by Mr. Sergeant KINOL"S. oroP°seuh.,,olo°°,)
number of the great iron works are on the Il` aiver': tit'
Ilan. Oa" 0 t
Great Western. This line between DudleY warito, &fit
f the
Is more convenient to a great proportion 0-
_„, thickly brie /
London and itirmingham branch. This is a verto',,ghaln. .e,lO ,
district. That portion of the London and s'i, ocelot° Pi:
Dudley to Kidderminster is very circuitous.
‘.l."ldireet I°,lltetiire tj,i'l.l,
considerable elevation in the grounds it) We benaaoe °its "-ti,
Great Western line, as far as it is e 7.. i, kew ti,rves, et
the same extent of country, is preferable- „ri e Greet 'e,
well. There are great salt-works there. ' ' •OgbArn PooIF 0
went through Droitwich. The London and 13irint „ent se il'
to take a branch there, but is not included in the Fr% the 01 rift
A great quantity of coal, is consumed at Droitvrien ~.% &or
_:'
0 too .. r
factory of salt. The gauge of the small coal Noll
olio as
about four feet nine inches. Were at Pilsen