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made by
conciliation of Ireland. He was ready to do justice to Ireland 1 other day, a most extraordinary statement had beenun
_a him
without doing an iniustice to the English Disienters. He ' the Rev. Dr. Buclianan-a statement which oceasi
knowing 0,
he cooed
that the Roman Catholics were in a peculiar position, (Mr. Fox Mettle) considerable uprise yet et
and stood in a d iferent relation to the Established Church gentleman from whom it came, and helieving
thatad written
from the Dissenter.-{ Hear, hear.) The Dissenters hart no not be guilty of any wilful misrepresentation. he b
Tit which
fair claim to the Church property ; but. with regard to the l?o. to that geialeman,expressing his surprise at the statememstan_es
man Catholics, they must bear in mind that they were 7-Bths had been made, and requesting exlenatien of the circumstances
I.3,_ccp.
of the population-that they had been despoiled of their attending it. He ( Mr. Fox Maule) would, in the
Buchanan
led
ecclesiastical revenues, and that they were compelled to sup- read to the House the passage which Dr. ite) had
port a Church,from which they derived not the least advantage. quoted at the meeting to which he
deentation
Though he wished to see the present measure, and more, ace. referred. Dr. Puthanan said that he formed one oia a, _et
ish,d for Ireland, he wished to see it accomplished by proper from Scotland which waited upon the Right Hon.
elsal7ll"eh
means.-( Hear, hear. ) As long as he had had a seat in that on the subject of Church Extension, and they
vier had
(7,1 r. F.
House he voted for every measure which tended to conciliate or struck by the declarations which the Right Hon. BaronetbigheSt
ameliorate the state of the people of Ireland. He did not think made un that occa=ion. He thought it was of the
t resist
there was any very great difference between a grant of 9,0001. 1 moment that the established churches of the country should
which existed for fifty years, anti the present grant. But when unite on the common ground of their Christian faitht
0., sir.
he heard the Noble Lord the Member for London say that this the encroachments of Popery. It was most helper at teisch
tinted,
was not merely a grant for the support of education in May- Buchanan emphatically added, to look to the statemen "
nooth, but that it involved a great principle, and was the pre- followed. It was important, the Right Hon.Baronetcon
eriod,
cursor of other measures, he was led to reflect that the Protestant establishments should unite at that, 11._.. of
where that principle would lead him, and to ask when the order of the Jesuits in most of the counees,e!ure
whether he would vote to support the establishment Europe, particularly in Russia and Belgium,
of another religion out of the public Ultr's. But he (Mr. ing to extend its influence and establish its power; •
o regun
Brotherton) would be no party to that bigotry and intolerance, Popish chapels and seminaries in this country were
es
.oe. a
and "No Popery" cry out of doors, of which he entirely dis- larly on the increase. He was persuaded that er.,.'_eiFine
approved.-( Hear.) He looked upon those things with a dif- strugele would arise in which thee would have to div,;mey,
ferent eye from that which the parties themselves viewed each whe'her Popery or Protestantism should have the aseetu,annet
other. He looked upon the Roman Catholics and their op- ' Such were the opinions of the Right Honourable
now
_ad
ponents as one great Christian family, all ( f them having the ,in the month of May, 1838. He would
nehrsoaau
same object in view. He voted for the appropriation clause, .to the House th . grounds on which Dr. ' hgean's
was enadrd vscobeo
and he thought the friends of the Established Church in Ire- defended his use of that statement. Dr. Ilu'l. the •
land might be made to do all that was required. Were they letter contained a confirmat. on of the use
.estieeas '
now about to endow priests out of the Consolidated Fund words he used, and also contained the Doctor's Pe ,mr,
when they had abundant resources from the surplus funds of tion. He wrote to him in answer to a letter which lin th
the Church Establishment in Ireland, he should be most Fox Maule) had written to him (Dr. Buchanan) I. :o TO.
happy to give his support to any measure which terms :-" I have received your letter of the 15th inst....i_, dof
would have the effect of producing so much good, ference to a speech of mine delivered in our Church SY:prtais,
and which would tend to promote union between Glaseow. in which you express astonishment, atl aou with
two countries. Happiness and prosperity might be advance,l by statement I then made, and reque=t me to supply :),.._tion to .
the Ministry altering their resolution according to the motion of information relating to it. I can have no possible obi` to ,
the Hon. Member for Sheffield. lie could not bring his mind answer your inquiries, but as you intimate your inte_
eseation .
to support a motion for a grant out of the Consolidated Fund, make some use of my statement, you must allow roe too;booe,
...
which might be the precursor of measures for the entire en- the circumstances which induced me to quote from mY ° .
against the
dowment of the Irish clergy nut of the same fund. The Synod at the time was discussing a resolution
eesttaio
Mr. P. BORTHWICK said that the Hon. Gentleman Maynooth endowment, and while speaking on
that
soften • e..
(Mr. Law)gave notice that he would aek the House not to grant had occasion to allude to the article in replying t00te.r,..,,,,,, so ..
the money out of the Consolidated Fund• but instead of that peated notion of the present day that the power sibul'a paint
he had submitted to the House the propriety of considering far as this country is concerned, is at an end. On sic_orie of a•
whether the resolution of the Government should nor be taken I thought it impartant to be able to adduce the testistn , ;aid no '
into consideration that day six months. That was the first man whom no one could accuse of religious enthu'ia rtd foto-
time that he rose to discharge a duty which presented man noule be a better witness than Sir Robert Peel,3"
remakable
to his mind nothing but unmiegled pain, as he nately I had a memorandum in my posses=ion of a uon the.'
was about to vote not only against a very large and statement made by that Right Hon. Gentleman° Pioing, I '
i extensive body of his fellow-countrymen and against subject which we were then discussing. Ilt s theu *tate'
. a sincere, conscientious, and patriotic excitement which ventured to think 1 was not violating any principle, ,
__te jai'
now laid on the table of the House so many petitions; ment in question having been made not through a private
but he was about to vote against these to whom he owed the victual, but to an official hod y, and having referencesseolvealtote°
deepest gratitude and the most profound respect. He had no matters which were of an official character. The °b se' both
personal object for supporting this measure. and, notwithstand- made by the Right Hon. Gentleman I conceive too "aaiiele . •
ing the smallness of pecuniary extent that the motion covered, true and important, and which there could hel%
sP_ruraey •
he believed it was the basis of a new era of prosperity, because reason or ground for concealing from anybody. For ey
that in the
it was the beginning of an union between Ireland and England, of the report which you mention, I can only state°, :5 gives
from which would spring the best events both for one country Scottish Guardian the quotation from my note-bollao' ;ode,
and the other. He was aware that great popular feeling had verbatim. I can vouch for the accuracy of t were
been excited. He had indeed heard that a celebrated preacher for within a few hours time after thtYee State,
at Cheltenham had met an elderly lady on his return from spoken by Sir Robert Peel, I made a note of them.
.'aon front
chapel, who had asked him whether they were going to build ment was made on the 24th March, 1838, to a deptL Seatllnji
the College of Maynooth at Cheltenham, or whether it was the Scottish Synod on the subject of the Church o.,__ stetei
intended that the Pope should take up his residence there, and and many of the deputation, I have no doubt, heard n'y
accurag °
be supported by the Government. Now, he had no affiliation ment, and can answer for its accuracy. As to the /roes_
with the Pope ; and though he did not agree with the my note-book, I have the most perfect confidence.,
_.4.1. old
the tuaiesnent °J.
elderly lady, yet he at the same time thought that it was neees- diatelv after the words were spoken I wrote theirer.Oino"ic, were
eery that there should be the consent of the country to a grant read them over to some of my colleagues, who cr correctly or:,
like this, and he thought that the consent of the country as well satisfied that I had taken the expressions correoe_iblit tio %I
as of the Government ought to be obtained to a grant of this Pringle was one of the deputation, and I have
nature. They had consented to the support of the religion of attest the truth of my note-hook." That was s, os he hid
the country in India ; they had consented to endow the Church Dr. Buchanan-a man, as far as he knew of him ka.„igepre:
of the country in India. They had consented to endow the known him for some time), incapable of making a wopoo the
Roman Catholic Church in Canada and Malta ;in India ;in sentation upon this subject. Now, he would nut ask Isis
,
would a If it
Trinidad ; in the east ; in the west; in the north ; and in the declaration of Dr. Buehanan alone. but he
south ; and he thought it was but talking about terms to speak Right Hon. Friend if the statement was not correcot a great
of the endowment of the Roman Catholic Church in Ireland. were true, what were they to think of the leader
vr_ee'radi•
The Roman Catholic Church, so far as he conceived, fulfilled party who, while in Opposition,
all remts offices ; and he knew not why so much question should viduals against measures of this kind. a" No.PoPerl
be de about the endowment of a Church against whole their minds with feelings which raised a ~,_vernmen i
employed, thesed eeriliieuing
principles there was but a feeble opposition, and in favour of cry-now, while at the head of the "'
tly Orse
whose pu'icy they had the results of experience The object of turned ronnil and brought forward a measure direcue a out
this grant was to increase the religious education of the people to this feeling? He would venture to affirm that s fiu, thong 7
of Ireland. He repudiated altogether the notion that this was an entire subversion of all political consistency..
aye got ri f
would interfere with the religious education of the the Right Hon. Baronet and his colleagues m "
might
right waY °lf
people of Ireland. He cared not for the question, for of their difficulties if they had set. to work in th h bet'r.
the difference between tl.e Government, and the legislating for Ireland It would have been lout__der whichi
Roman Catholics of Ireland. He would nit treat this as a they had tried to repair the wrongs and injustices In an egos
matter between the Roman Catholics of Ireland, and the Ireland had suffered, and placed her people t?ii, couutrifi
Protestants of England ; he would not consider it a' a ques- floating of civil equality with the people Of _ House °9uld
tion between the Gove..nment and Mr. O'Connell ; but. he Had they pursued this policy he had no doubt the
asures wouhe
would consider it as a matter between the Catholic priests of cordially have agreed with them, 'and such log iittizing t.,,
Ireland and the people of this country. This was not his have had a much more permanent effect in trariTkii, roast,
object. The Reformation could not properly be traced to the sister country, but, said the Right Hon. Baronet, t"
where, he
reign of Henry VIII., but to the time of Wicliffe ; and he woul I give peace and tranquillity to Ireland, 130‘,„„ourab...
conceived that the established religion was not to be ascribed would ask, would be the use cf this, if
to the alteration which had been made three centuries ago, Baronet left an apple of discord behind him Ie jo the shlo
nor did he ground his opposition to this measure on any poli- Hon. Baronet had sent his conciliation to Irelanu ele of glic
tical grounds.-(Laughter.) He thought that any differ of an increased civil rfi - f • qua t cation or t s
t people,the Pe'''. supP°7,
the Bight
irtie Rigns
cites that might exist was to he ascribed rather to the spirit land would have been perfectly ready to give him th,e_weeld t,.
of whisky, than to the spirit of religious feeling, and while for i key had already admitted tbs.. they were
he expressed these feelings, he might at the same time Ireland so Nis as temporal and civil matters wer neefore!!",°,
say that his only consideration was that which had reference But by sending such a measure as this they eerfereret of altarei
t the --h'lret
to the feelings of the people of Ireland. It was not the an act of conciliation, which would not have the
0_ C
paltry grant of 26,0001. a year which was made to the people ing the agitation in Ireland, while on this side . The allvot
of Ireland that entered into his consideration. He would tell it would serve to encourage and foster disconteinejaad conk; the
the Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary for the Home Depart- which had been received from the people of °would have the
went, that if he made a concession to this extent, he must con- lead Government to hope that their measure
_volts 0 e
easur-
ceive that it would not thus stop He would not refer to the effect of permanently averting the future the ln, not
case of America which had been adduced. He would not ad- Repeal Association. They had been told th
rears, and pt
duce the agitation which had been excited on this question- had been forced from them-that their I_, Governu,
or
e ieng,A-- Sao
he would look on the result of that agitation as a fait accompli, their love of justice, had been the cause o' ied
and conceived that it would be better in no way to bring that introducing this measure. The people 01 es : e
with?
eieoo.idere.o,
agitation into this debate. He had put his thoughts hurriedly what the people of Ireland had got from Persrit thitt
togetlier-(Laughter)-and had he had more time he might system of agitation, and Government might rely uP e armlet
have made his speech shorter than he otherwise would have the English people, rather than sanction this raeasttt% mote
done. He had intended to make his opposition on the second he believed from the bottom of his heart, becon''sia ewe
reading, but had thought it bet er to reserve it to this position thorough repeaters than the people of Ireland were at t`,:ody Of
of the question, and give his adhesioe to the motion, that the ment. He believed, on his conscience, that the great '4 his
motion be read that day six months. the people of England, and certainly the great majority i the
Mr. FOX MA ULE rose and said, that after troubling the own countrymen believed, that the establishment °
with
House at sonic length on a former occasion, it was with some Roman Catholic religion in Ireland in connexion, than
regret that he rose at that hour, but he thought it right to the State would be a most enormous evil, and ratberether
notice some personal allusions to the conduct which he had sanction it they were prepared to do away alt °B Fa
thought right to follow with reference to his vote on that with the connexion between Church and State eoli•
question. The Hon. Friend he meant had thought it right to his own part, he should prefer seeing any ot,lu'errinit t°
attack him for having attended a public meeting on that sub- tical party in power than the one which would ; !,,itabil
ject, and he had endeavoured to make him responsible for lan- such a violation of conscience as this measure must 1,7 codert
guage spoken at that public meeting, and for resolutions agreed lead to. Let the Government try some other
to there. He (Mr. Fox Nlaule) /lid not hold that parties pre- peace upon Ireland than this measure. He did not b "
worth
the
road to that
sent, or even pre,iding at a public meeting, had a right to be the sacrifices Government were making were not 111°li'ineai
held responsibu c for all that might be said in the heat of are u- result which they anticipated from it.
and
dnt or in debate on a question of such prominent importance sure to Ireland there would be an end to all
theypublicgilecod't ant
of such great public interest ; because it all confidence in the public character of the
all '
en in tbs.,
was enl on y such occasions that individuals could House would be sacrificed.-(Hear, hear.) e t e
more Baronditin3Ses,
give expression to their feelings on this question, passed this measure the would be doing
and it was but excusable that strong language should be al- country than an Minister-whether the Right °tube CitY °I
lowed them. Was he to be responsible for the language held ' his Right
opposite or
Member for
,f to
there, any more than he should be held responsible for the lan- London-would ev l d
er be ab e to reme y.
offered hia3sel for
guage used hy Hon. Members in that House ? Was he to be Mra PRINGLE did not intend to have mr be
held responsible for the resolutions passed there, any more the attention of the House, but as the 11°Te speech' It.
than for the resolutions brought before that House or the no- Perth had referred to him in the course of hisometti,.
oia
tices of motion which might appear upon the paper? No ; he could hardly avoid troubling the House for a few that he rilen
could not be held responsible for that language or those resolu. had been statedby the Right Hon. Gentleman had '2' t
tions, but he would tell the Hon. Member for Sheffield, that speak to the accurac Friende expression '
whte
,„...rei.preey...
if he were to put down those meetings, he would be doing a from his Right Hon. at the head of thm".,,,uojele for
great public injury, inasmuch as those meetings had their rise some few years back. It would, however, be
_Jest; the core
P abllhee fa' cl i f tlihets,
in public opinion. At those places the expression of public him to tax his memory so far as to be able tonre
read f 0
d bee ei the,'
opinion found a vent, however strong the language was in which rectness or truth of the words which had e belies' elf.
the public expressed that opinion, he thought it better House, but, so far as his recollection went,sLonet hilncteil
for the House at once to know and hear it. Having said these were nearly those used by the Right Hon. **-3,D, cOntilbie
few words with reference to that point, he would now pro- He had no hesitation in saying that t"-I Hollaurilief
ceed to notice some of the arguments which had been used the sincere sentiments of the Eig his belief
on the measure before the House, because in discussing the Gentleman at the time, and it w-wae en°would
measure at present, and in voting for the motion of the Hon. that the Right Honourable Baronet
measure -.Had
and Learned Recorder for London, he confessed at once that sincere when lie thought that this
nrelane• , bale
he voted for that motion with the simple view of putting a greatly improve the condition of the peOple 0. e woulu-
nor
stop to the Government measure The Right Hon. Barone the Right Hon. Gentleman thought "his measunri this a°l2 be.
at the head of the Government had stated that Hon. Members the tendency to inure the Protestant interest _ndsoclt It
in that House had already assented to the general principle of or place the Remain Catholic Church in
endowments in passing the annual grant to the College of was sure the Right Hon. Baronet would never
to have
00
the asi;,,, bias
Maynooth, but he (Mr. Fox Maule) was very certain that it forward. It was because lie feared that it w° Baron des
di
those who consented to the measure containing the clause effect, that he ventured to oppose the Right 11_7;00' 1 itt
which enabled the parties to endow such an institution in this occasion. There was no statesman for w
himself, 5" he
voluntary principle, would think it very hard if, by giving their greater respect than the Right Hon. Baronet anent ,
over gni
vote, they were to be supposed pledged to the general princi- all measures introduced by the Had he ba"beee
ple of endowments. The endowment of a seminary established should have his confidence and support. ~,:icl hsveriight
solely for the education of the Irish priesthood, and what was doubt upon the tenden yof the measure, he sneseof the -' re
in his opinion a still more lamentable termination, the perpe- inclineto have relied upon the better judgmens
the 16,,,eea1•-
tual endowment of the Roman Catholic clergy.--( Hear, hear. ) Hon. Baron t bu
The Noble Lord on this side of the House looked forward to wouldhave telt; f ily convinced that
epree-,1 his
effectt ofeewas u -
that event with the most sanguine expectations-(Hear)- And he should ncouragln following
the d. •lie„reosrst.
not, therefore, be uo was, ,tt phew
and the Right Hon. Baronet on the other side did not deny
fully
convinced that this grant would
reason for his -rrni°e t
was to be taken from the Consolidated Fund of the measures, and this was an additional
to
the Gnve d tba
country. That fund was raised from the taxes e, on the
paid on the present occasion an opponent
by
the people of this country. as te must emu
take
up
Now, he had He thoh
heard an Honourable Member, in the course of that the time t that ultimately the struggle must
wish to t?it we, lei
debate, term this a paltry sum not worth contendin for. time awthaesnHot very distant. RomanCatholies,etes or.
_,,
Hhe did not thinkel goosewe
ouse, and, besides, in Or _ber 1 .
They had sufficient evidence of the generosity of the British edit • discuss nature ying to questions of this na uun. Mem he els
public, in granting the enormous amount derived from of the ... . but e. to
the Commons.-( Hear The ) h seech
income-tax. They represented to the public that such a tax Sheffield had .the discussion, he wish
of
a te9dency to revokep
was necessary for the purpose of meeting the exigencies of the not desirous t Neither did feelinis be
oge into it Hear
State, and of placing this country in the proud position which be ) uld hurt the ....30° lie
provoked to say anything which co .cheers) cadre,
it had in former times maintained. The British b• pu lic came those who differed from him in religion-1, B,ao , lie
forward with a generosity that surprised him (Mr. Fox '-
d his - (Hoare/eti-
assure the House tha tower s
Maule), and had nt doubt surprised the Right Hon. Baronet fellow-sub. the had feelingbut kindness. --
,i,,,t thes seect,
jec snog b
also ; for they had searcely given any opposition to his measure should stating' that eepre ei,
of , therefore, merely conclude y
- he had feeblY
eio of t"
Was such a generous public likely to quarrel with this sum ments of his own which, however, .
26,000/., because of the munificence of the grant *) •n of the Petit' 0
. No-it the • •
opinions of a large proportio I
was upon principle that they opposed it.--( Hear. ) They were
e eibe, sr.'
quarrelled with this endowment because it was to be carried cou;iirtr.yA.-1. (hoeersa))
'Cf. NNELL as an Irish i‘eeeeetiste s stie
out at their expense, and in violation of their conscientious Irish Roman Catholic,'that the= is _,ng gr.....
feelings on the subject.-(Cheers.) It had been said that the
of etireri..rio In
ss over without an opportunity to hi
ii No Popery " cry had been raised aeainst this measurand eo.religtonl,e'''. en his
(Mr. Fox Mettle) did not know what was meant eb
th He ,ode on the part of hit countrymen
they
Majesty's Governmont for the course
word.-( Hear, hear, and great laughter.) Did it
me)arn theal grate
f° Their Fast
subject.-( Hear, hear, hear.) He was gent same thing that the "No Popery " cry of 1829 did ?-had ;listed that e Io i
~,..
(Hear, manner in •
hear.) He might say it did not, for that cry had been r •maintained.-( Cheers' ' poliel•st
sed policy could no longer be
of a eetteronon th.,
against the possession by Roman Catholics of the civil liberties'
which Protestants then enjoyed. The opponentsof candid avowal he saw the beginning „ebers eta grs'!„
that (Cheers.) He believed, also, that many 11
I de4eVed big riablv
measure of justice said, that if they took off
abilities which affected Roman Catholics ' the dis- (the Opposition) side of the House equal Y an
tn he re'
individnals tude-( Hear, hear)-and he particularly , which
eth
of that persuasion would sit in Parliament and hman l° tong es
haver power Lord the Member for London for the m of his 5 loge ,
to intermeddle with the laws by which they
governed. Then was raised the cry that by themselves were sis.ted temptation, which none but a Wr°,orwee cee _won
such a course mind could resist, and which some of his ' I°l- )
d had c°l'3B Cliee"'
they invaded the Constitution of the country-the No Popery ( eel
cry was then directed against Roman Cathol.cs, to
.undivided sulePert.- wail° a
vent their enjoying the privileges to which they were j PT
to give this measure his
5.00,,..; the
had woe
entitled, and the possession of which could not possibly • us
yof The measure was valuable
Membernotwithstanding n'
for Ashton bonly °ill;
the Protestant religion of the countrinjire the sum with which the Hon.
The measure was t, him not
Y.-( Hear, hear.) But the Roman Catholics of Ireland.
hear. ). Le elownseP
the case was very different here. They proposed to d
now for the Roman Catholics of Ireland than the dido nhiere able as the promise of others.-( Hear,
eo_ise of ,
et hoe
Instead of merely granting them civil liberties, theyy now
en. be misunderst od-he did not mean the p a ;Pau' gh.) licoreS.;
pro- to the Catholic Church.-(" Hear" and ' a
oxforo--t°eround I
posed to endow the Roman Catholic seminaries. The
posed to remove them from thesupervision of the State, y pro- speak to Hon. Members opposite, from
anti they borough.-( A laugh.) He would ask ahem ,-t Hearer
aaaj
were thus establishing a principle which would, in his
lead to the final endowment of the Roman Catholic opinion could be resisted as the religioni,of the majority and,
oloand,
rtillhei
itself.-(Cheers.) Surely these men had a right to Church If the present motion were resteted upon.
ettVeied as 1 icelena
their conscientious opinions upon that subject without being
not be surprising if the endowment weread
.T..
_eopleroes
whirls
subjected to the odium of this cry-of this, as he would t ( Hear, hear)-for he was glad to say tht,thwe' Yoieesu
_re, sob
it, very bad cry of "No Popery." It was neither • it term did not desire it.-( Hear, hear.) But the eseas';_e lion°
just to raise that objectionable term against men rig t nor he looked for were of another kind-they.w „ow of tes. ,eept
who acted as long ago were brought under the consids:;,ord go "a b•
solely en conscientious grounds; but if they complained of that by Mr. Smith O'Brien. There was the 1
.lquiryt_.l% not
"No Popery " cry now, why did they not complain of question. Into that Ministers had made an, t, althounted--•
it at other times ?-( Hear, hear.) That cry was raised was bound to say that the result of that inq°l ; esoee eo
against Lord Melbourne's Government in 1837, 1838, more than lie ,a lose
and so forward - raised, he would say, in 1839, all that he would wish, was much
slept sou the re'
original purity.-(Laughter.) If that Government all its ( Hear)-and lie trusted that the Government oritsorbiseci
spoke of time in bringing forward their measure f °
tion of the,: trio°
dealing with the municipal corporations in Ireland, they were port. He would not now go into the tree . bet a . coo'
met by the "No Popery" cry. And from whom subject , f their big
proceed ? From the very partyof which the
did this cry which formed no part of the present
..
Right Hout 0- •h -
not Lett It which
,e,
beon. that her Majesty's Government had Church=
ought e Baronet was a member and the leader. The Established
n:Ater tried to put down this cry. They made yll (t e Tories) 3ideration. Again, as to the had ably it°l7,,trit i° 3
they could then, and now when they found a the use of it Hon. Friend the Member fur Sheffield
Government siyoulo P- tee e'
against themselves they were the very something similar tore the House, he trusted the oot to
_or, it,
first to co,nplain of it, condition more befitting a church which was u 1 end t° s"Prl these
The Right Hon. Baronet opposite had stated that he had al- ligious feeling of the people, who were comps
take UP 4 their
ways discountenanced this proceedir
Fox Alaule) would say, that when 1.-( Hear, hear.) He( Mr. -( Hear. ) He tru-ted that 51inisters would
sv.ed I/
,_ece.
he heard the "No Po er " ions without the fear of being t "I.`ennse.t.e::oat
p y quest of l" wit°
cry made use of against the Government to •
which he himself political opponents on the ground right, de r'
belonged, he had heard no disclaimer
from the Right. Hon He trusted they would do what was the would
or they „
Honourable Baronet ; and when he heard ' .
the other feeling the satire of their enemies
y that
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day that the Right Hon. Baronet in his retirement into Op- tion of their supporters. He did
not
thtsa- ill have P'-ucb es,
position gave countenance to the No
that after the st . - 5t eetino 'vete"'
a,ements lately made b th 11. h II
y c tg t on. and speeches in favour of repeal and great en sans too
Baronet, the House had a right to h bl• ' . , . ..7 Dan' ere 1.0
t
ave apu lc explana- some honest men might fear, and Mai" herC W P
tion of the course which he (the Right Hon. Baronet) had to dread. But the shouldrecollect that t ;need
y shou oy
taken on that OCCaSiOII. Atlf they
a meeting in Glaagow the kinds of agitation.( Hear, hear.)