The Sun.
London, England, 1817-03-15 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Lord IV. iteSsELI, presented the Report of the Wootton
Ilasset Electimi Committee, which declared that the Sitting
;Bien►ber, .W.. Money., isly. has beet) duly elected.
Mr.,ESTCOURT pro.ented a Petition front the U;ith and
West of EughtOd Society, praying ,the House to take into
heir inunediate consideration the propriety of a Counuuta-
lion of Tithes.-;,-Itead and ordered to he on the table.
The Amendments to the Marine Mutiny Bill were read a
-sceond time, and this Bill was ordered fur a third reading on
Monday.

A Person from the Commiisioners of the Property Tax for
presented a. copy of their Returns.--Ordered to be
printed

NAVY EsTimATES,

The Ilmise wept into u Committee of Supply,
when—

Sir GEORGE WARRENUER observed, that on
moving a vote for the ordinary services of the
Navy, he should refraio (ruin saying any thing
tlii►t might sw ii-pate the discussion which the
hiouse ►could he etoibled to come to when .the
'whole question should.beibefore them. I-ic should
be noxious to bring. this question forward as soon
ns possible aft(. r the Luster Recess: At present
he should metely propo:ie his 'first Resolution,
Ole sum tof 1,110,0001. :be.grnisted to his
Majesty, no..aecount of the Ordinary services .of
the Navy, for six• from the Ist January,
1817.'

• Sir M. "V. ItMLEY, although he dill not tuettu
to.ohject to the Resoltnioo, disapproved of the
modeadopted by Mittaisters of getting suws into
their hands heroic .the dist:fission, of a I:trger
amount than usual. lle,hoped the Committee op
,stairs.tvottld see the neeessity, of recommending
the curtailment of the,salories,of tht useless Lor(fs
of the.Admiralt y. The Hon. Baronet alluded to
the situation of, Acting Pursers of the Nsvy, who
emnpl ained of the hardshiptrthey were under front
ink being put on what they conceived a proper
footing-with regurd to half-pay. He considered
,their elm to he One ofpeculiar "lordship ; and he
suits informed tltry had petitioned the Admiralty,
btit had ree,cived Ito answer. ' .

Sir G.'llore.onve:soine:explftnations tvliy it was.
imitussilde tor t.he,Admiralty to,do any thingtnore
,for curt t, fawn bad been done. It was ittt CEA -
I& • b rule that there should he no tnore Purser-,
.than bii i ; “Itti uniny as 300 or 400 haft been
-brokromp anti sineeitlte.iteuee.. There were
a grtlat number of aliiiriTtitio(ntred Pursers: it► the
navy ,who were:put:nu ilia regulation list of
fttrli-
pity ; but it tv•-vi not every person who had bern
au Actitig I,+irser.ultrottti that Chilid be Ur On Ilse.
efattblib bed list, as they were trot confirmed. lie

sisstfreii tlrie riots. tit the .sifillcct 1).14
Imilerg6Oe the ftiltest
tAntwv; stared A rzt.se (if Hi) ilitrt,i(loAl
this deseriptio'll, he coiisidefed tt rry .11ntt1
one;

Sir G. Hoar: replied, that there were hundreds
in a similar situation, whose 'o,ishes could ant be
Complied with. Every thing had been thine that
was possible.
Sir C. Potu spoke at some length, bat :gene-
rally inaudible, in behalf of the pursers, and of
various topies conhected with the Navy. Oellor-
ticulatly.complained, that the pensions of/Officers'
widows, which had !tot been inereaSed site X 179.1,
'.were not put oil the same footing as those of of-
,ficers of the Army. There was no reason, in jus-
tit e, law, or equity, Why they should not, as those
of the widows of the officers of the Army had
been increased 50 per cenr. He then alluded to
the Breakwater at Plyntonth, and regretted that
so little money had of late been appropriated to
drat great national work.
Mr. CROKIIIt wouldi out of respect for the lion.
Baronet, give: hint such answers as he trusted
would satisfy' him.' lie should be perfectly pre-
pared to argue the Estimates, when the period
'for discussion arrived. But the Hon. Baronet
moat, be aware that, as many alterations had been
propOSed by different lluards at different times,
the present scale of redaction could not be the,
sans as that of 179'2. It the Hon. Bieonet would
renew his observations when the details came be-
fore the lloase, he would be ready to show him,
by comparisons between the Army and Navy,.
that there was really no difference- in the value of
the pensions. With respect to the Breakwater,'
the Hon. Baronet could hardly imagine that that
Board, with whom it halt originated, had grown
lukewarm 06out it, and were not iei,lmed to carry
it on. He would show, on the contrary, that'
they won't! do every thing to render it perfect.
Mr. W. LITTLETOK complimented the. present
Board of Admiralty on its general liberality to-
wards all ranks; but in -oue instance he twilight
they had not been as liberal as t4ey ought to he.
lie allmled to the practice of teptiriog an oath
from Officers on half pay, that lie did not derive
any other" emolument or employment from Go-
vernment. This wit not the practice iu time
army.
Sir G. WAttititrann nave the llun. Baronet.
(Sir C. Pole) all possible credit for his obierva-
lions. With respect to the importance of the
Breakwater there conld be no difference of opinion.
But there was many Mt great novk besides which
this department had to defray the charges of ; and
however important the Breakwater might be in
war, it was necessary to reduce expellees fairly if
the great object of !seduction was to be rendered
effectual. The reduction in the expence of pro-
ceeding with the Breakwater only, bore that pro-
portion which was made in other proceedings that
were not of a temporary nature. The Hon,
fnues must be aware,that any delay in repairing
the ships would be nowise ; but as great a desire
existed as ever for finishing the Breakwater.
Sir C. POLE said, the work might be carried on
much cheaper this year than last, as he ont. 1 erst ood
persons bad petitioned the Admiralty, nUrino to
carry out the stones at Is. W. per ton, for wGich.
last year 3d. was paid.
Sir G. Hoes replied, the lion. Baronet was.
quite mistaken if he thought mm more-work would
be done.this year for 0,0001. than last year.
Sir .1, NEWPottT; could lint .CuOCCivejt Wile to
delay rt liminess of this kind, in order to Save 20
or 30,001)!. As 'all UChlielltell agreed that the
Breakwat, r was desirable,. the sooner, it was
finished the sooner the public would derive benefit
from it: It appeared that in a late_ storm some
ships were, lost off Plymouth, while one which'
ran in behind the Breakwater was saved. If only
one vessel was lost through this work being de•
layed, there would be a great responsibility on
Ministers.

Atter a few words from Sir P.WARRESDEn, the
first Resolution, os well as those for votes of
780,7501. for the• Extraordinary- Services of the
Naq, and 142,500/. for the expellees of Trtitt-T
sports, Sick and Wounded Seamen, and Prisoners
Of War, were agreed to, •
Tbe. House
,went Litt) Committe on the Game
Preservation Bill, in the Blanks %sere filled
up, after a desultory Collversatinti„twween Sir B.
Knatchbult, Sir C. Molick, Mr. Bennett, ,Jr.
Brand, anti, Mr. lhiokes. Sir I. Knatchbull de-
clared he had no wish to press the Bill through
the House, in consequence of „which the Report
was ordered to be received this day fortnight.
A Petition was presented from I:linckley, in
Leicestershire, attributing the distress of that.
town in it great degree to the present pressure of
the Poor s Rates. It stated, that out of a po.
pulation of 6,400, 3000' received parochial relief.
Ordered to lie nn the table;
SEDITIOUS ASSEMBLIES BILL.
_

OH the ISlotiett for the third reading of this

Sir M. V. litnt.RY &claret, he Coitid not alloW
this Rill to pass without at least cuile.o.ouring
induce the house not to agree to the prearnble.•
11 Government wished to get an extraordinary:
power into their hands, it was incmnbent upon
them to slew that there were strong grounds ex-
isting. for the necessity tit that power. The words
of the preamble were false, and were a gross libel
'on the character of the people. He would defy
the Learned Gentleman; or anyoit hose who de-
Ittoled the l3iil, to prove the troth- ot the Lis.
0011 in the preaMble. '!'here' had been noi
riots, twnillt!!,.,or disorders at any publie..ntect-
logs, except in one. or two solitary instances ; of
ivisick that of Spa',fiehls was the principal. It
was therefore too much, on account of cote or
two disturbances, to-make Slick a sweeping clause
against till the people of Fughind. Ile 'much re-
gretted the instances that had occ4red, but he
-WasittatiSlied that t he :laws' Weresoffieient ly strong
to check that spirit witich-letitnt,them. -'i'bis was'
clearly proved by the fact of Chief Magistrate.
LOndioi, with 'thesole arin of the Civil Power,
having .eheeked the riiUerson the 2d or Decem-
ber ; and to'their exertions might certainly be at-:
ttilvired the prevetifion of noire serious em,c-
gileoces. If More roots,. were ivituting, ot the
rFootpiii dirposiiioonl the Veople, lie wooltl only
refer to What totik place two days ago, when, it
ever a disposition to distui balite might have been
expected, it would then have shown itscAL He

47.zgreltea that 'exarr.ple of p-iiislusibt that
ease had ma been n tliC as 504,11 as the conviction
bad taken place ; and he shankl not base been
surprised if the disappitiuted expectation i,t a re-
missioir of the capital pan. of the 'sentence bad
Irif the people to commit some act itf riot ; hut
their quiet disposition was the strongest" instance
that could be given, that there was no necessity
to resort to stronger laws, as they sheared no dis-
position to riot or Intithlt, beyond the expression
of their feelings of regret. If we looked at So-
uterstishire, we shookd find that the riot did nut
originate front a mevtin.,h ahout Parliamentary
Reftirm, hut' was caused by mime 'individuals
in a Stale of cicep distress, and was initoot-
ly quelled bpi. the interpoSition of the lion.
and Worthy Itariniet opposite. This still flintier
proved, that "the laws were sufficient y strong,
without vesting in the hands of Govennitent such
extraordinary power. There wo3 tln ittstattee Of
a Magistrate of a great town, apprehensive of a
disturbance; refusing to give his assent to a public
meeting. Now, if the apprehension of a Nlagis-
trate,. was already sufficient to prevent ,a mectiog,
what trifling. causes would not induce a timid and
cautions Magistrate to interpose, when ..armed.
with such extraordinary power as this Act would
give him ? There Were individuals. who %email nut
think it very impuoper to interfere In • strip n
li»iine the right of pet it inning. There were some
clauses io the which he thought extremely
objectionable ; but after recollecting•the debete
of. last night, ashen,. it ever there was Speech
heard more clear in its statements, more impres-
sive in its argtvoetits, and more calculated than
another to produce conviction on the Housg,,it
was that of hi. Hon. and Learned Friend-64f-an
that ut,easton the !louse would not agree tot he
Resolotion which tiesetihed our cornwerce .and
manufactures in a state of extreme distress, he,
could not hope that one siogle orpiment of his
own would have any effect. lie would not, Imp
ever, refrain front rept siting his objections to the
Bill, and he woisl4 now suggest that its.daratiOu
should be fixed for a shorter period. There were
two parts of the 11111, one of a temporary sod the
other of a permanent liatitre ; and if two 13111 s
Were made oat of it, he would not object to the
last port. As notch allusion had been mode to
the Spenceans, he must, in justice to his Con-
stituents, throw mine light on that prt of the
subject. About .40 years ago the doctrines coiled
Spencean were first promulgated at the Philoso-,
pities! Society of Nestcosile, of which thia'Spence,
was a menthes., and where lie read those senti-;
merits which were so much and so deservedly exe-.
crated. A few days after he had promulgoted,
this stuff, he 'vas expelled troth. the Society.
Front that time to• this the plan had not !Ken
heard of. .111 tad however beet: stater!, that spenot
wits a menthe!. of the present Pb.losophieal Society
of Newcastle; but thefact ww,, that the .snciety,
of, which he was 'a metnber, wts.4 totally dilrerent
.boo, the present one, Rini lif! of men were cwt.:,
less inclined to sand ion site!) principles, than the
present members. It was true 'hat the Entaarjan:,
of this Society had lately published a most blas-
phemous parodyou the Nicene creed : bur Ire had
done it ot own accord, fetid ass-oon 45 it was
inkiti•l 'Om, he wog unattitiy.asly eepvlied. The
list' in the Funds had been attrO'voefl lothe agila-
riop of these measurcs ; but for his p be. ,vould
say, that he would sooner:lit:4i Ptilith cf,i►tiriae
as they Were, than see them .rise On the liberties
of the people. ile• Should now more, as art
amedment, that the Bill be lead a.thinl lithe this
day six months.
Sir J. C.llteelseev obServed, that while the
very fluttering terms in wlsich the Honourable
Baronet spoke of his bumble set vices demanded
his gratitiole, he felt it no less his ditty to correct
a Part of the mis• statement rkspeet ing the orikin
•of the recent disturbances in•SOntersttshire. They
had, in point of fact, not commenced with tlie dis-
tressed poor out of labour, btu with those work-
tacit actually in employ, and who received. wages
not Inodequate to their labour. trofortomody
those mischievous publications, which were but
too generally in circulation, bad found their-way'
also among the colliers; and' it was the oitinioh
of the best inforuied, that those publications bad
Materially tended to excite a disishedient and dis-
loyal spirit among that class of peesons.: 11lany
of these publications.(round ;Hi the Spot), hadbeeo
transmitted to Government—some
Fait liei had.the gratification to feel himself war-
ranted in the..aasertion, that taking the Mass of
population, there was tint, a more orderly or loyal
County than that of Somerset,

Air. W. Sstrrn did not mean to say that tlicre
were nut seditious•publications circulated through
the County, and that they were not attended with
bad consequences ; but it was a question with
him, whether these circumstances would justify '
such a measure as that before the House, and wise;
ther the remedy wotild,not go very far indeed be-
yond the necessity of the case. The two reports,
so similar in their nature, might he considered as
the pillars on which lite Iqesent ACE hall hen
raised. It was known th ht .both• these reports.
bad emanated from the same source, and he would .
therefore take then) as one any) the .saute
lie also could not help considering the Uabeas
Corpas Suspension Act and the present Bill us one
and the same, lie did not blame the 13entlemen
opposite 'for doing what they considered to be
their duty ; but if lie did not conceive thCre was.
the same danger aml the same reasons for these
measures as they did, be was not bound to take the
same course as they had done. It was, in his opinion.
.no .; mall crime to svek to subvert the. Rritisi.Consti,
tntion. ()lithe contrary ,ire bought this as one of
the greatest Conies that could be imagined ; bait in
proportion to the Crillie shoal(' be the strength nl
the rollitdation op which the measures to op-
pose it shonld rest ; and all persons in the coun-
try- ought to be extrtintly cautions in)* they ac -
enseil others of: being guilty of such a crime.—
With respect to Norwich, he felt the. Sallie sense
thily I.,)wartis his 'C6llStitlteals as the Hon.
Baronet (Sir M. W. Ridley) had expressed towards
his t and he would endeavoiw to wipe away from
theca the 'ieproteli tinder which they Lboureq,
fl ►tu having becn classed in the Report with the
people of other counties where 4isatiectitin was
stweil to prevail. lie could not hut think that
endeavours had been made to connect the blas-
phemous publications on the one hand with she
, seditious publications on tie other, and to attri-

tote them it, the s 3itte Persorti, i'l ai
u'lndc blame of both on those wt"' 'ul "4";1,,
1
touviete.l of either. illiis %vie; iiitt Oic ‘1
r, illustrate the subject, he sbota bfg Tiii
reada letter, a -copy of arlaieh, be I°d ill'
li‘lifeito'sgy, had been sent to one of Os Sfr
principal Secret at ies of State, anti whichll
betbly the ttleatts of the City ot ' S'rOe' 60
been included in the lteport. Ttlell,`',l'
Mail then read the letter, winch itattowiti:i
of the blasphemous parody hal leeil telltiligi
Sid'il6titli, KIM that the nliter Isavia4i4"ll,i,
to the circionstances, it.t ! foioui Orli 114`'
thing had ii.ten prililislie i '25 7e:irstigfi,,s,,,'
now reprinted, with the Inoue, ..:tvre 1- ;
present times. It was first pulii., I'4 ll
lions Jacobin, and had note been Ole .4,,1;
speculation of a starving printer, lb°'
well known as at: adherent of Milweri;ii
person had fully confessed the whole thil
ji
writer of the letter, and added, tligt Ile 0
liven it away, bin had t•inplayetl hasvkloll.
it. that he might get die profits. 'lle hbo
iletitast therefore cunt vide': • t'.)st such s, P,'l.,i
`Fasill no degtee to be 1:14.-,: si tticlo
kitentiments of the people of iN,rOCl);,,n, itt
add, that the wretched .print,..i• to am
add,
alluded, ti 3S a person nUi, As 1',.•!ti34 s°llc
by examining the 11011bOOke, bail ittblow(oo,la
mention against
leis
si
name, a t
iltecittion.
i,iiiicu,..lttetill:,
secute bins, perhaps, if lien Were Calif iii-iliog
he bad stated might assist. t miliPte leo
meat.—(Gaught er.)--The Hog; 65'll'jitioi
atlillititl,e),fl tiiviit,aurriiotytts poblicoiioas of a 6e4011
tors, and observed, that lie (lid at "iii
tor didn't:lug his political opinions lie ;...iil
op in his youth, as the clisinge olighl,ol,ll
sh
tliiou severity the change ; but there could he no torrid
atj
character than the reliegado who l'Jj siyiltil
front interested motiees--atol wl") Ile ot
and experience, for"trto
condemnation of those who sill' 3"'llig ill
Principle; which he had forit"l‘crli,,,clog
think it d'Alsoninir,ible for attic i1i".ii,:.7,,,0c0il
language tot's. great tom 0,
early sentiniepts, when the clsogr, I'l'l'ol
Intlture reflection, and ilt)Pe4tc,f: hod!
neeted with any interested M"l'V't"tiolilli
Was one thing more disgirstiog n1.L.t„,(1 4/
lvfn bilnself perfectly. tit-
he
another, it was Ike beat awl ofoiltlki: )101
Itegoido:—(flear, hear !)-I.llc II') ,41
111 e" proceeded w read the foliotiallr'' ,
the poem called g. Wilt rtifer t'',,,,41,11°/'
!‘ My brethren,--these are true,i9, o'7
:`,.
,I.,!: tire till (qua ;.. nutitre wade V;rnipst
• Egattliiy is year birli-right. " 4
" On,tlur its-uu.i piaace unit b.:holt:use
" In the itioott-pterp'edirobes of rOjitlijo;
le,enstivg at raw; :nod turthi!or'l,',
,:'!:hen turn :or to the- hut ci(4l)°,,t;„(4;filbt
.., ...1!1,(1 ,re the wt etched ittbourcr..ii 03o;
~ pt,:ile Ills scanty morsel 0111'11*ot,
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siet;en, and, intilizoant tit 11'' . i,' '4l.
rN‘i,e,c(r)ret‘dionl):4l,iltbil.4.titAtetitelaijel;;;;;.:l;leialti(iiit''s.sril:tf:ftlii:::::44l;:l:"''e":ll,i'gill';ll44:°'';
whet' the [louse heard the folit'w,:sirl'Y
whiCli occur in rime I I ili at tiiic utiliot(:l',,r4ilf
the Quarterly Reriew, who CO" ")c 0 tekA,s
.by the same 0"d ".„6:00.,'S
"7" °l...kte ()pinion's collimate, I:' ,olkti.. ei
rat "lid political thilti•op!;ll•lr,:t",'' ,dsr".;
l'"lstie, the fAhlesi 01,4,41 cirtiot;`s,l."..4ol
/fr) .
tird,,,-his ,rery Mercies berme 5.13'11 ~ oil
14,4)
page which he semis (lb r or:II-call° „. s<to',' :
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" , 'lost:vie. • 1,,. %I'd liete;ct!l y
r tot Tear s. •
*()Illier •• . ...k or Iliii VII "I:4'ilt
OCeaSioji, h,,,,, 1.0.., - „0,10‘,,,,.r,.
%ICI iug upon the public, mad fo.o3:7l'.'osewordli
manlier 11 Its rge part uf. Alt.: ii°lllll9l ):11
Pared for the riria with ,vl'icli orid,o)
!nem. The dangers oribing Ir°'"othe""
hie
are nor lolly Appareat, sash 1,01 •i
Ike. incendiaries, which hurt for suj,l,ll jor; ill, in.fi
.t.,_luenied so plainly, that they 04"";i1,110 31,
mire been ptecenled, are POW 1110 re
ipiraf
acts. 11
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--c (Mr. Smith) eifultii,;4olorl
P363llges front these worki etrint )0,; dit,io,°.,i
s'(l`.°i'. but, if they w‘re "litle'' „ tit 1',0.11 .4
4'11., lie shoold like to I,IIOW, iiiltitterlOot
lOpP9Site, Why no pi ocerdingi 1'5‘11,. 5.1,144ti1;
Ugnillst the author. lic 6‘ir'act'' °P4tAti
nut by' wisom these paiiiiilde",3. tit3,ait'l
% StP)lig suvieiou ,Was 4111','iliot flu-001p
lvariiltliiet:lt irli.y.aidilitet:Beix9t;abc"tiltdvii's .dilte,,(sitr.:4lj',,'iili:gliii
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lions' books he had 'Byer' C'") fliiii? fi
',„, v.,' )(4,
tile Speileeiin pUbliCallaili 011.‘ • CO 1104
Billet „OAF',
were only distinguished t'? ,-,,,.51'17,,tri0
but the work he had referreo ',,t ~010- 100
P.issions, in language %chic', t` ioluli:44ciVis
Omitted with eloquence. '1'40,01 I'4' orpl
lini'eeer, been circulated ill ti;ei.,,too ta,eol,
seen it in l'all-tnall, its In 6 ''' per 113'19
'vho, be believed, was . W101'64014 Ilse( 16i
of the !loyal Family i, there w° it slAiiills
difficulty in finding Id t% b""' ,et oti ~ 01-
however bard it might_ be tn 1'4101'011.,
The hook iii•gisest ion, •be al)"' oise loiti;
Oven by ii' tieliCleloat,l ow,/ sli'c' icibo.l;::,,i
f Will . sil' 'ir
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pciiostivisollo.,.:,l,ll4ll,
! pabiish it it he plca4tl Po li'.l, dot( co I.
this lie did not choose to ",:;40,0,111iiiv
did not wish the AttotorY It 00, 1);.‘1.
agaiiiit this publication, tiltt.,.,:catoii, tii ,
that Other Works 5t,,,,,id be 10 .':,, ow,,,ii,
of a less ObjvClloll3hle ellitrlffit Or Vol $l.
"Vedookeri. lie then vitittiiMrvett (1'019,i
and contended they had not I,ll,corle
e,,ii,t,
which had hero ti
the Wa or ir"ectitoolol.(itict,4it
in' the nr port of l,ord' 5 t„b',.°,;lolo ,
ing described the pcsoisloosal verti sicc .
this Dill to be wholly Jibr,, 4 . 0..0,11•:.;
1
otieneesfit VvaS iliteMlegi I" '1;1,,0:1'.1:01,0'
should vole ill tAvoiir of l'fs.. o'loll ~P4th,
for i lie post ponement ot "'lli, 11'11 fo 41
mr. w. ‘vyNNF, iboughto4,oo;p„shill,
, unfailly criticized to't 4re tile it)..),141,i ;
which he It Act brought bcory I,(icirk
could not see that these isms .ot i` c flq,:
0,,,,h. . ril ~..,,
the t indication of toe P tits; 01,, i,!,' ~i,
I lit ".
• the charge made agitiot .1 tie 114` ‘1,0; tr,
the Lords' Coplipbtee• -... holtlY (0,).,1
Goitletlien cilia hail Ly:Co Iwo. poell'l ,fl4,oltli
30 yedrs: lie ipta sc.! Wen. , 1 ivt !I" -44
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at tale age of if. moo -'' 1,,„1 A. ~ (r :rpA
fire Bookseller, however. v. 11
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----the win It was I VOW) Ovc iris 1.111; i/ r
h lie w nothing of tile fate t'%;,04 ti
did he ever again sea tll4
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‘air. Iryone) had never a:a"")
,0 I lit, former opinions (JIG,- :tut.ll,ll','.-.1
In thoe which lie nattr entertained
then ophirons Were, they I,illi 1)et41;1
;Utitained m
by argument, and, beeatisellis,l
mains tvere changed, he had not deserved to,
'tt'cked at he had been that night, in a Place''
're he could not antwer to defend binl•elf•—
li
ui he (Mr. Wynne) had felt himselt
o Alay in behalf of a man from whom iie
A, but whom he could not but Love and

. .
IV. Smirit, in 'explanation, saitl he• had
,tured the Gentleman alluded to, for hay-
inged hit opioions, but because when he
changed, lie thntigh
)0 t no severity of it"
,°,
grrat to be applied to those who still to those priociples Which lie hid forsaken.
W. Hurst...lL thought g. nothin conk! hear
'n tile present question tha T n the em:irks
had bero made by 1113.110 n. Friend (Nl-r.
1), while gu
1 in•• against the necessity of
liow b 2rrought in by Ministers. lie Could
ive of the Bill, To no set of Ministers
le entrust such a measure, upon ex-pprie.
H Was tint a young Member of Put-
"' had sat in that House many years,
seep several acts of this kind introduced, ,
hail never known tin good to result from
Thote who resorted, tit them did lint slie,w"
due for the Constitution. That cons-
Rinsed as admirably attained to nit!,
butt when the t hue of danger came, it
to be suspended, and despotism alone
s
1. He considered the present men-
wholly unnecessary. Enough of Ott; ,
tePeople had already heel, ruled "'it h '
Ad not consent to give up any portion
Intadned.
'LAY held it to belltvise to surrender.
the Constitution for a short period, 1.11.
t''' Prtaerve the whole unimpait ed for "'l
;I,"ie; and with this view of the-tiobiee!'
:4(1 his most cortlinhipprobatiort.
n•t{oNtltot cnntemted, the Bill went to (lei.
le people of a most important portion 0
''''itotinal rights, the exercise of which
'grim 11. i,
,„„ cegn in
,c.tt , e ert iii that notise, as was ''
1,„I'll."14 tile l'roperty Tax to he is pealed. 'I •o
'i 111"."v'ke'aseribed the Abolition of tiie•
r4l'
.14 l'''ance, No dativet• hod been shown
'lnini public
meetings,' titt this subject_
,t'tf all a, naitipeteut to judge as the acere.t,
ell:. arid it was known that no. •liS9ttlel S.
liqiiin.":" ni any meetings for the pnrpose of 411,h,'"1. a Reform in Parliament, but tit
0144;11 the metropolis, and even in these. t
~tr ' "t the leettlers who wished for !an in"
, t 04,11,40
44,,,ke,,,
,‘ greatly misgalcillaied their Illciins,
4,,
till.hl rain tor that support which they,
,'dare"aiselvi's .tit expect front the solrer!',_l4.
tii . 'le 'lid not av that there ought to ut.
.1.• Icon , s' '
had late) taken
44,114
I, alt Neil meetings as y.
ttithtyo7 Pruvisions uow Made to check
41ric i,,•,:t,,`1' necessity of tlit case, .and were.. ..icl 'llati,, ulice-t, abLoolutely 1 idictilous.
II
t h t.:
It bat!
ore On
011i4 hilt tound the present flier" •
Att'ilii,„ et;. %Vinci) was referied to as it It had
"411 4;41 .111POrtiillt 11;111 Of 011 r law, like Nlilgna
M"lii .ilie Ildheas Co • iti.. Act. lie 'lO not
ONsl,l,;l4l4tance Or its ime'rit; to be what some
t
. ttil„.o4e hel,, ; he,
Irk/ N,, i . ...o but eveu on that
.e..
1,1f1,,, Il' hitut its um .5....... ta.(4..4.., ti," - • '
'ii,,v4l:,,t,,tclief,t.„,led. Thu went to give the
where
41, olikiiiirer \ter to disperse Ole people,
):;11,,i'Ott In°l'"f the peace had been committed,
i j'i
theollnlijeCt all who were present 81 it II)); °ling lig, to capital punishment, where
stkil of`a'' 'leen said tendiug to provoke
hvith,in 44 I (I"' Peace, if they did nqt (101;ers"
1,„`14:11,,,•4'''' 4ter they were ot dered tsr nikst!
1,7 tierii :I'l4'e*. The Riot Act, he th6110)(1
it:il.'e 41.4 IgnttlrYs HS Illtne tints hind oectlfret,
'ili tilt P"ted,,thatt were ever .k nowt' bel'".
tot.ltvetin, 'inie period.
,The present Act, front
ecip.
4:llfitilitistavt:lltl prove useless,. as no pr. 7.
on.
tbr stlecharile `roil Prove
be found to act upon t ,
.. 14,14 Sot Englishmen could, be, changed i„`"lttlit -t''''s; he did not tattlerstand that,...tbeY
~ of, edeet-
141listilail4:4?,elly_!s to have any mean
con tit
In lneiiit„e ~!ho
,Uoverinne lit of. the el.'
oP4I
lien;
ii ni‘e, the present was nut necessary 1,44ie II "'h. Ile concluded by c:dlin,i; the
Ititlll et
the
situ lie
in which the .eoontlY, was,
ill,:t!liepitsve eik, Of airier in 11;160 Mlle!! lOl*
Illi,' 411,11 then il Val heel) inside, For'all the blood
ill:t4pitkileil(l,;d:lt'le(l, t'or all the treasure that had
ill,„„ttarviii., ' iY. People now saw titl! rhatulfde.
k,'"e sq,,,?'"l4e agricultural interest dePtess7
i,isx ~.ie of i,
:Ilstta '1.....the it lie community weighed dawn
)I,iitter of trio 'berks Corpus Act s itspendell-1 he
'),bungl o 11,,, ~e'llintry for hospitality lost by Ole
to 't rcaee Alien RAI .►1 ow in ad-
-I`.itjppt, 411
.other . . en . I —,lllt l! • , ,
019/1 q* '.1.'1 „, tvils, their loofahs were to 1)4-
, tlittli
~'linlifies he had desct ibed, brought
t•;...-tral, ~,. me,
~ver.
1,14,41111, ' no longer to be buffeted
r I,_
tt 11"tsrni•' •
-s . s .
ss r514„1,1 ,
,mittaincil, that the spencea"'
31Al l'i "'s. i: Ina,1"
U. 4)0 qr ill e.' were nots() insig!'
, '4t tli„,l, 'l',gt•i„. •- si t. 1 11 de-
g], t, , ii:,„,, , , . ~,,f,,iint,osei . 1
7,,,,•,iritit,,,, , ..ittious.uaner mentioned by the
A 14 ii ', ,ii.r Na . i i
lori'l'l sit ,"'e lfeno„ , rw'eh haul caused that to ap-
+4o'i'ied, us'reii"°, which he (111 r , NV.-Sruit It)
Oillic4,4'.,oQtrid I,ot L"ti.ng 011 ilk ColiStitlientB,llo
104ttlei'd heen i,t,.1, :believe that that communica-
-4.1'1 4il‘i,„;:i':ie tin! Cat
i;:. ,ill. the
4.14'4,1p, till i")l Prevent In t. . tor. Cott'
.1 A • Irptlce , te lugs,
11,, llltli,cui . ' I'? , legally called by the consti,-
1.4‘1,11111'!il hy :,1.,i% 'l3l.tileil Meetings vvouhl. he left
and for this reason, • be'
'll4,in ','ll;‘e,tl= known.t, the c . .
Am" , h.,Co„,illitt onstitotton. The
ntile (it
thi.)y slime rim, ee,\t,lf .:i.Tercsy, it bad been
4411,h 1 loite, „„ti. , 1 ienthers oft the opposite
lA, ..i. ed„,,,,er t 1.(1 understated than over..
1444:4 !tad
do 1: which the- cOotit ry was expos
it a. , I llSKett if ti. .
.. :'
pit tot t t. ttle dues
st saimus.circumstanees
'::..tii'e i)htier 0,, tt. littl. why did not illiitis.
~„,.r, Tl,_ _ . le info'
they h4tl re-
fhTlt...l
of'" nustver ~,,is . '"g 1 1 they
II • ' . Om, they were not
..41 ' .t) 'lce o Chi lino 1", l-
* 4.1t1,,,i, .or wcre 0.. et tate yon their
5)11i ,co IY Possessed of the lo-
,llll:'!l!„?l,,,7l,ithitittyuett. icilttetl to Parliament till tine
.;,. ~l, , ,ti the (h,.
,we's
.slated in the Report,
:,.
~1,,! tepee 'gh had faily I.
il , Peated ~,, A ) the attempt tV9S
f ''.t , ~''.(Y Of I) ~ 4 0 guard against this be-
''' '''
"l'illit anuln'ehti find the. lion. and
e i fin
'74 li:l.At (1j:,4.'13':::;t7-44.3. Ile cmill not contemplute
4 .tai: ~,„,_,,,"nt 'horro, and as b w.31)-
. I(
'''l:4lllt3
31.°1 II be inft npCo'np'ler..

sons Ikhe ,who La.! rr.:etitle ca, reds
nOe,etinee,ottght to havetohl them what trea,ures
have been effectual for this Purposei, Yet a!
the same time less severe than those. which
beg!) pt Ile)iien contended Om the peo-
ple felt that the itoeitsure3 adopted by Parl‘ilneet.
were enacted .for their protection and security,.
They were inteoderl t,o pi eveet the perpetraliJll
of crime by the terror.' lit a severe punishment.
The present Bill applied to a, particular case, in
which the suspension of the Habeas Corpus could
produce eo effect.
Sir S. ItoNtt LLY and Mr.'ll. BeTounst Mutually
expl;tined.
Mr. PONSCINDY declared that the Secret Com-
mittee had called for no particular Measure, Im:
had expressly and unanimously np,ieed to state,
only facts, and to leave the Executive to do its
duty. As to the -conspiracy itself, it was of that
tlartire"that it lutist be destroyed almost 'as soon
es discovered. As to the Bill, some parts/of it
were very good, end sonic very objectionable. As
he thought the great mischief proceeded from the
abuse of popular meetings, he did not object to
the restrictions proposed to be imposed upon
theM. [le also agreed that the Magistrate should
have the power to enforce the law ;. bnt,he could
not consent to vest that power in the breast owl
discretion of only one Magistrate. NVltat 'objec-
-6,4 could there he to enlarge the number 'of
Magisttates %silo were to decide whether the lan-
guage used io en assembly was seditious or not ?
The Bill consisted of two distinct parts, which
ought to have been divided, and sehmitted sepa-
rately to the consideration of Parliament.
Set jeant BesT observed, 'that theoriy. ep-,
piereattmode of preventing these mischiefs was to
empower some per sou to do so. No security
cueld be given by Requisitionists calling, a Meet-
ing that it shimld be conducted with propriety. As
to one Magistrate having that power, it might be
better that two should he requisite : but meetings
might often be Field in many places in the country
where there would be the greatest difficulty in
getting more than one on the immediate occasion.
Therefore this provision appeared to be necessaiy.
This power
.was cotiferred mate peculiar circum-
stances, to repress or prevent measures tending to
subvert the Government and Constitution. Ile
cootended that the clauses were not of the ,absurd
nature represented by his iloo. Friend (Sir S.;
Romilly) ; the Bill Wits lint to give neeistrat es
powers they before possessed! : the tido ence be-
tween the law as it stood, find the law a, it was
now prcipoSCri to be, was, that, i; gave the Magis.r
trate power to attend at meetings where he sosr
peered that seditious language would be employ-
lie held this to be a. nipea.iniportant distinc-
tion, as it went to the
,very root 0f the recent dis-
terhaeces, which could nat have occurred, had any
Nlagistrat es possessed the powers now abont.to
be communicated. .
cm..cuArr observed, that the, assertion pf
the [lon. Gentleman elm spoke last, that in Cor-
porate,-towns it might he very difficult to procure
the attendance of two Magistrates to prevent sedi-
tion, MU; very unfortunate, since it was precisely
in such places, ahoteeling in individuals iu the
commission of the peace, that, their presence could
be st.cured with the greatest facility. Ile could
not consent to communicate, these additional
powers under any eiretenstances, but least of all
ha Les./1.0,11;..,,," kW-Ai:Mt:le, hi.
(Henkel. Did the [louse forget, that the removal
of it peeper or the licence of
,a pot-houie could not
he effected withoot the signature of two Magi-
strates ? and would- it consent that Abe most
important right at the people of England
should be. placed at the mercy of only one ?
lie roaintained, .that the patience of the
people under their severe deprivations deserved
the highest culogium, ;lowed ,of being re-
paired by a measure most odious in itself, and
most repegemit to the spirit of the Constitu-
tion. : What case had been made out to warrant
such a proceeding The meetings throughout the
country had been more frequent and more mute!.
rouslyattentled than at any furtner period, and the
topics discussed were of the most irritating no-
tate but only, io one or two instances had the
slightest. disturbance* prevailed ; and all gentle-
toen who had spoken had borne testimony to the
tranquillity of their own vicinity : was only
when they indalged is conjectures. as to situe-
thins of which they could know nothing but by
' report, that their fears seemed alarmed at the pie-
;tire their own imagination had drawn The
meetings in Spa-fields, it we's true, lod ended in
a riot ; but its insignificance was proved by the
fitello With which it was suppressed. .Otte
pt had beets hoisted one waggon had been hired,
and one matt had summoned the Tower to surren-,
der.' Nity,- it was even tt. disputed point whether
the Tower had veer been siillatuotted at all. He
appealed to the good sense of the [louse, whether
these petieeetlingS warranted, not only. the sits-
peusion of Habeas Collies, which Ministers had
Obtained, but the revival of the Gagging Bill
Surely the first was amply sufficient to meet the
deaseei arciecicti by Minie,ter, without ate
additional aggravation of the miseries of the:peo-
ple, to be told that they were not et liberty to
eomplAin. To some of the minor provisions at
the Bill before the House be did not object ; but
as °Ministers refused to make any separation of the
clauses, be should vote against the whole ince-
st:re. . .
Mr, P. Moose protested against the Bill on the
part of` the whole nation. lie had lived long
etieugh to see three green bags opened with the
settle pomp as that recently; exhibited ; and they
ell ended in an abridgment of the liberties of
the subject. He insisted that there was no pre-
teem:. foe thiS eew infringement : the people had
bellloed With the tomost forhearauce end, resig-
nation; and, like hiss constituents of Coveutry,
were not only right, but righteous.--(Laughter.)
was proceeding to refer to the loyal conduct
of the' iobabitants ,of Coventry in. the reign of
Charles 1., and to remark upon the ridieulous ea-
tare of the pretended conspiracy disclosed iu the
report of the Committee, which he said was a li-
, bel :upon. the nation, whet) he was interrupted'by
the impatience of the [louse.
Mr. Cateteisto said, although the clearest expo.
sition of the -object and motives of the measure
had been .. afforded on its introdnetion, And ale
• though every, argtonent and objection: bad ,been
'refuted and renioved as they had been started in

lied

COnrSt! Clnic; r7T
ct? he leo %%idiom ,firret expieining the groetels
npote which he 'rested
,hi? determination to gift! is
his support, end disclaiming the euppoeed gromele
whiche in spite of their feepent.refotarian during.
the regress of the Bill; were,still insisted upon .
some Getel:men opposite, as if, they, had never
beell6iWredieled. He did not vote ahn its leerier
because it peemettently abridged or i.estrairterlahat
invaluable right of die People to petition; upon
eenich pee ponourable andeLearned Gentle-
men hail prommaced so warm and so Miniuml a
panegyric; tie the contrary, it received eirsheart-
felt coneureetice, because it afforded the most itti7
portant protection to that I.4ht ; and for its:legi-
titeilte iltty imi es pleSerre,! train alnise and polle-
tittle Ile held, aehieh a$ that Learned Gentleman
tire semen rielie of peti,ion, end if he consented to
Ally rust rain', ti WaS ht•eilllSC tentpopiry restraint
had bevit teodered necessary to fence rotted this
it'iva!aehle tight of the people, and secure to them
its future, frail, and Listing enjoyment. That
llon. Leartied Gentleman (Sir S. ROttlilly)
tV43 not to 1* told that, as by someemysterems '
operation of Providenee, evil was often produc-
tive of good : so on •the other hand, from the
greatest good sometimes proceeded the most fear-
ful end permatteut evil. , The Hon. and Learned
Gentietnau had commenced by reminding !bent or
the peblic meetings which took place last year, and
wliieh hail prevailed ageing( the'stippoied pte-exiite
ieg disposition oldie House on the important ques-
tion of the Property Tax : that indeed might
fairly he eilduced as a true, just, anti preg-
alai); instenee of the influence of the people
on their deliberatioes, and a refutation of all
the calumnies which' asserted" that there was
110 common interest between the great body
of the People° and • their • Represent at i ves.—
(Hear, beer, hear!)--That influence and com-
munity Of interest was AS effectual at the present
mometit as it was last year. Bitt how could this
reference touch the measure now under considera-
tion. Let the non. Gentleman, or any man strew
Dint, if it could be done, the provision in this Act
which threw an impediment in the way of
the exeercise of the legitimate
,power of the
People ? Stich provision did not exist. Pass
this Bill, and let another subject arise on
which the country could properly be recinired to
express' its sentiments, and it would be found that
the people had not lost one particle of their in-
fluence ; nor had the constitutiorod mode .of exert-
ine it been in the slightest degree infringed. It
ties indeed possible to fancy instances of abuse,
as tract been done ry an Hon. Gent. (Mr. Calcraft),
bet these were the creatures of imagination, not
of Wits it to be believed that any
Niagistrate, with the eyes of all his neighbours
fietal upon his actions, and in the face of the
whole country, watched by the most jeelous ob-
servers, and liable to the severest scrutiny was
it to he believed that any :Magistrate, se situated,
Would tnru the pewers giVen him by this Bill iii'
so base anti wicked a purpose his to ehaetlem his
defy for the vain idea of serving a political pray ?
It healid not thiok there was troy weight in this
eleie,ei„aao tee mensaree.es •little iliri he-give it
his eepport en the 'notion that the invaleable right
of petitioning. Was iu danger of abuse from the
great Mass and body of the people. That it was
directed kl gßinst the great eras% and body of the
"sport* 4.4 leV1•11 regularly useerterl•from Are odic,
side of tine }Ouse, and as regularly refitted front
his side in every stage of their, proceedings. It
bad heeteofitich frequent recurrence as to becnme
stale, and the repetition of it Might well be
viewed as that of a iscarded imputatione—dic
supported tire measure in behalf of the great
mess and body of the people of England—to,
interpose a barrier between them and their de-
luders—to erect temporary guard between them
and their bitterest enemies—to check the progress
of evil, and by drawing a line of dernarkution be-
tween the sound and the infected, to Stop the ra-
vages of the most malignant. pest ilence•---(Hear,
heel- object was to confine the {Lune
within its bound, and if be conic), to get the in-
ceudieries who were endeavouring to spread it
over the country to pause before it was too late,
and repent of the infarnotis project in which they
had hitherto failed.---(blear l)—They hail failed
because tire people were sound at heart, and un-•
der all their rufferings hairshewn how slitlieult
was to stir them to tumult and disorder. Those
Who had hitherto employed themselves in dissem-
initiating poison, 'would now find their purposes
deteated, and the people of E.igland, with ell the
seeds of virtue and greatness within them, when
tire disguise was reineved, would discover and ab-
liar those who,' taking advantage of temporary (life
ficulties and warm feelings, he'd used• every artifice
to excite them to riot and rebellion.-e-(Hear,'
hear !)---He admitted that the instances wet e few
in which these incendiaries had succeeded ; but
he was not, disposed to allow,. that the etit con-
sequences had been so slight as to render it tome.
Ceottlitly to interpose a bar-against the spreading of
the coetegion. The Hon. Gent . who spoke last (Mr.
Calcraft) lied gone hack to lentos which had seemed
to be entirely ended, atilt differed from all his
friends upon tits subject of the Report Of the Se-
cret ,Committee t he was now tar rejecting that
altogether as a foul libel, which, on all pre,
vious occasions, had been deemtd an undis-
puted hesis for Parliamentary proceedings ; white
the Hon, Gentleman who preceded him thought
that the Hottse had already done so much, that. it
was unnecessary to do more. He would not take
an ungenerous advantage of the first HotieGent.and
plate his own friends who were nu the Commit-
tee, to refute hit arguments. Tide cheoged the
whole face of the qnestion, and he contended that
instead of being a geonnd fat' stopping short, be,
cause somethiug had been dour, 'this was the
strongest reason for goitig- forward till the work
was completed. !luny advatitage Lad hest taken
of the Hen. Gentlemen Or of the ; if they
had been led from bill to bill, and trims step
to step tof 41(1,1%11Kx ot, what Was to succeed, then
might it fairly he objected at arty period,
,that
now wall the time to stop. But this Was tir'e
revel se of the'case. The Howe would ni)t tail tt,
recollect dint doe notice hadgiver►; that
ell the four mensorra were prtrpoeed at three ; am!
that, in the explanation of their nerinre and teu.
deney, latch was treated with its relic ione to, mid
bearings on,oll the-nther. !'llwyTweee thus enallled
not only to view the whole At once, but to de-

L'.

parat,ely% tt• t ft.< r.
,11,t: autl
iri
the,Aanie .spirit ,he frittot stet:,• ,entirely
agt:e.r4l:, %yid; the tlitii t 1 jootionthie f,== iltietnati
not now in his phtc6'Ori,-Ttinstitiby) whose of,i-
oions ever hail, as: 4ey.-44,,e,rv,ed, great,
the House, that, the ipeertires could said
to come from, the iiirect authority, of the Coot-
; s it was kit to the Constitutional.
of the Crown to propose such ulterior steps is
they on Oleic re.pott,inility deenied ucce,s.try for
the
„safety of the country. Hut mutt, the
CQIII mittt:c did : it distinctly denounced
!the in-
sufficiency of the exi'd ink laws. So far its audio-
! ity went. And what followed) A syst etit of
fence which offered tie w laws to goal-ft the

dearest rights and best pritileges of (Ito oat lot),
Two Out of the fool' bills proposed in rouse-
(pence had, 'vetiver, the, general cogent-ranee of
both sides of. the Hoosei, and; the suspension o
the Habeas Corpus had been, carried, by a large
majority. Here, however, the Noble Lord (Lord
W. Russell) was disposed to stop_; contending,
that having parted with,so much liberty, no farther
encroachments •oughtto,he Allowed ; but to this
the
.reply of the Member for Glasgow (Mrs
Finlay) was must satisfactory. He says, " I
part with a por!ion ofnq liberty for a time that I
may secure it all for ever."--(hlettr !)----The lion.
nentlerneo, on the her side. seemed afraid tinkt
they were giying too gre,at rowels to Ministers.
and thit't Ministers• were anxious to take typo
themselves this new butdeo of responsibility.
Good God ! was it possible for a moment 1.0
imagine that thq asked. this as a bean ? • ‘'nolcl
any man covet such an orations trust that could its
any way Avoid it i—(llear !)—it was an over-
whelming though necessary duty that they look
1111011 them, and when the Execsitive l'ower called
for a stronger.arm, all. they rested this and other
measure; upon wits, the conviction that ex-
tutordinary mischiefs could only be subdued
by extraordinary means.—(Hear, hear !)—ic
was trite that the Habeas, Corpus Act was sus-7
pended,.but unless the Noble Lord and his friendi
could spew that it was applicable to the tteasonr%
now at work, but not easily to be laid hold of ;
unless they could chew that it affected tkese pub-
lic meetings, and was adequate to repress this 011 Q
among the difficulties of the times, their argil-.
molt so Itir front being conclusive against t!te
present Bill only went to prove that it also was
wanted, to prevent the dissemmination of se-
dition- with impitnity under this form. Whoa
besides the Noble Lord at7l the Hooottrable
Nlember who spoke last but out, had de...led the
existence of abuses in public meetings The
Hon. and Learned Gentleman (Sir S. itothilly).
and the Itigla Hon. (it:mit:twin (Mi. PonsonhYL
had fairly and candidly ailinitted that they required
restraint : whaiever odium, thcsetors, cuold hit
jhyriti.n 'you tlroie Wh() cont,ended that the abilv,•l
of public meet sit mistily called for regulation, let
it be lemembere:l, that in that odiom were it0.1,1d,..d
rite liotioatalile .turd Learood Gentlionan aod hi 4

Right I Wit. Ile did tiot itiviot to toy
that they tv(Pttld have Applied tlic retavdies 11:),v
propn.seti. ; ha! 111 Seal isllPllt (111 y ay()
entire colleurretice ‘t ichhii Nlitje,ty'i N 1 ink! t'!

hadyk:en stated it more st rottgly ha a any liih'lll4
Who. usually VOted wiih (lovernipetit . The rest was
ilwwe thaiter 41et4i1,4 IHReitra4l rely of lit tie ititpor
With. mil.y tltice exception-, therefore, all
agsevd that ropitlar assemblies mutingd re4l.litional
control; and he hoped. that ix 'would go forth to the,
country, th-at this opinion had been stated and
suppotted chiefly by those who , on other OCCar
Sintiti, were the Open antagonists ot Ministersoind
Ikie ttl4clared friends of the liberty of the subject.
hear, heat !)—Why did public meetings
require extraordinary Cf/littol at the presen: too.
went ?---because the individuals who attended then!
went with a predispwed int eit: ion to subvert the
constitut ion; bet:mist:they went It lin di,zllitit)l4 to
be led on to acts utoutrage ? No: but beCilllSQ,llll(ler,

the peculiar circumstances of the conntry, While the
people were safes lug under distresses, there Wall
an unusual, degree of inflammability in the public
mind—because some designing individuals who
did not feel any portion of„ the pressure of the
times, who acted not front intemperate or mis-
taken zeal; but from the native virus in tlieir
malignant constitutions, took advantage of is
state of ii things favom.4hle to their
cause there were incendiaries abroad, who would
t hemselves oft he extraordinayy iufl tinnuthilit y
of the public mita to light the fires of rebellion in
every corner of the kingdom. This: waN the true
t colon why restraints ought to be put-upon por
pular assemblies I and 'so far both sides of the
House travelled together in hlrmony. scc
then to what, a narrots, point, had the pies..
Lion narrowed, sell---t he mere regular ions that
might in he adopted, They agreed in sentiment,
and the only difference was in the. detail of
I remittent the y would a,lopt in applying the remedy
to the disease. It wilfi true that -great dis-
tiess prepared the. minds of the sufferers to
'hoes' to every fantastic um), delusive project.
of relief, mot 10 go to extents of which they
woi:id not otherwise have dreamed. This ex-
poscd them to he misled by the artifices of their
enetnies and there was yet another cause
co,operating to produce the same, etfect. It was

indeed lamentable to tliktk) that an that had been

.of years by the higher orders to en-
lighten 'the, tinderstandingi., anti to inform the
minds of thelower orders of the community, ttad
been, turned by these incendiaries into poison. The
information which the intelligent of the upper
elassus had been:anxious to share with their Bret hero
in it lower sphere had Oren grievously misapplied,
and- education, the greatest 01..4 blessings in a
State (bectine its 5111'01 depended upon the ttlaals
of its inhabitants, and those morals upon instruc.
had been of We
,convered into one of the
blackest ettrses that could afflict mankind. Lie
knew-of no ;rime of deeper dye t ban Otto I.6akinic
aavaut age of the dawn of moult and hit eilectual
improvement tot the most flAgit ions purposes ; and
it could he likened to nothing inure raptly than to
one of the striitagenis OtiffegitinniteAllti bArbaroos
warfare, lostettll of entOloying the fair soil
,ititoo‘rtettwilweapolys of host ilit y , the savegeene.
p„is,„ned the very well-springs ollife,-,-(l4tiod
ciivers.)—ln the state of the public mind the people
tvelv pectiliaoy ;liable to he hoed upon by thi!, mou•
struus course, thonsh Gentlemen militt dilFer as

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