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London, England, 1821-05-15 00:00:00

COMMITTEE OP SUPPLY.

The Ordet,of the Day was then put and car.
ried, and the House resolved itself into a Corn
tnittee of Supply=.

On the resolution for granting a sum not ex-
ceeding 43,071.1. 12s. Sd., for the salaries of the
Master-General of Ordnance, and the Officers
in the Tower and Pall Mall,
Mr. It. WARD begged the Honourable Mem-
ber for Aberdeen (Mr. Hume) to explain some
observations which he had made relative to this
department, on a former evening.
Mr. Hume said his observations were, that ac-
cording to the returns, it appeared that sixty-
seven clerks of this department had been ap-
pointed since 1816.
Mr. WARD proceeded to explain the nature of
those appointments, but from the very. great
noise which prevailed in the House, we were ml-
able to catch his observations.
Colonel DAvits asked a question relative to
the patronage enjoyed by the Ordnance Board.
Mr. WARD observed, that the Master General
of the Ordnance possessed the entire command,
and could reverse any order of the Board, but
that where he did not interfere the Board acted.
There were four officers under the Master Ge-
neral, who received no salaries, and who had the
power of appointing their own clerks.
Colonel DAvtEs said, that according to the
statement of the Honourable Gentleman at the
other side, the Master-General of the Ordnance
was a mere puppet, without either patronage or
responsibility.
Mr. WARD said, he was astonished to hear the
Honourable,Gentleman. The Honourable Gen-

tleman seemed to speak like one who had never
attended a debate in that House, and who was
an absolute stranger in England. The Right
Honourable Gentleman then went into a detail
of the number of offices at the disposal and
under the controul of the Master-General of the
Ordnance.
After a few words from Sir JOHN NEWPORT,
Mr. BIRCH said, that in his opinion the Esti-
mates before the House would have justified a
much more severe opposition than was carried on
by Members at his side of the House. Ile
thought that it was not fair to compare the Esti-
mates of the present year with those of 1792.
The situation of England at present was in every
way different from the situation in which she
stood in 1792. The country was then on the eve
of war; at present we were in profound peace,
and had been so for some years. The Hon.
Member next drew a comparison between the
amount of the Army Expences of France and in
England, and contended that on the face of the
Estimates before the House, there appeared an
excess of expenditure of 5,500,0001. and if the
statement of his Hon. Friend (Mr. Hume) were
true, of six millions sterling.
Mr. GORDON said, he very confidently believ-
ed that it was the custom hi many of the public
offices to employ clerks, to make work for each
other.

Mr. litntE said, that since the conclusion of
the war, no less than 67 individuals had been
brought into the Civil Department of the Ord-
nance, whose salaries amounted to 6,939/. The
Civil List was by.this means augmented to nearly
25,0001. These persons would doubtless, in
course of time, become entitled to superannua-
tion and retired allowances, which, had they
been taken as they ought to have been, from the

half-pay list, that sum would have been saved to
the public. The lion. Member, after a variety
of details, adverted to"an assertion he had made
on a former discussion on this subject relative to

he tonnage of an Ordnance craft called-the Lord
lowe. The House would bear in mind that he

(Mr. II.) stated, that he had sent a person down
to Sheerness to take the measure of that craft,
and found that it was twenty tons. Upon this
assertion he was flatly contradicted by the Hon.
Gen!leman opposite (Mr. Ward). He had now
to state to the (rouse, that he was fully confirmed
in the correctness of his assertion on that occa-
sion, and as a curious coincidence, he found in a

printed Report on the table of the House, a re-
turn of the tonnage of that identical vessel at
twenty tons. lie mentioned this as a specimen
of the weight whiCh ought to be attached to any
thing which fell from the opposite side, and he
would venture to say, that all their assertions
were of the same description. He could not at all
understand how the Hon. Gentleman could come
forward and say, that all the recommendations of

the Commissioners for Military Inquiry had been
attended to when any one who would compare

•
the Report of the Coinmissioners with the Esti,
mates would perceive that that Report was to all
intents and purposes a (lead letter. The Hon.
Member had omitted all notice of the enormous
increase in the expenditure since the year 1792,
being from 400,0001. to 1,400,0001. This was a
most material point, and all that the lion. Mem-
ber could say as to the exigency of the times,
was in his opinion no answer. at all. The aspect
of the times was greatly changed for the better,
and the income tax being taken off ought to cause
a'reductioh in all salaries. The Hon. Member
(Mr. Hume) alluded to an improvident contract
for horses for the artillery, in the year 1806 or
1807.—(Some lion. Member observed, that the
Whigs were in office at that time.)—lle did not
care whether it was the Whigs or the Tories that
did it, he was for economy ; and if the Whigs
did such a thin!, so much the worse, for they

always had ecdnom); in their mouths.—(Cheer6
from the Treasury Benches.)—These things
arose from the want of a proper person at the
head of the Ordnance Office; for he maintained
that the Duke of Wellington and Lord Moira,
from their situations in the Council and high rank
fit society, could not give that attention to the
office ‘vhich it required. He next alluded to
the principle of gratuities, which he condemned.
Up to the termination of the war, these gratuities
amounted to 20,0001.; and now, during peace,
had amounted to 30,0001. Since 1796 this esta-
blishment had increased its expenditure from
18,7261. to 63,2721., being an augmentation of
44,5461. He thought he could not do less than
propose a reduction of '25 per cent. on the grant
proposed. He objected to -the salary of 8271.
paid to Captain Dickenson, in addition to his
half-pay. He next noticed the increased expence
i❑ the office of the Surveyor-General. In 1796
there were fourteen clerks under the Surveyor.
General, now there were thirty-six. At the
former period the expence was 2,0191. per an-
num, now it amounted to 10,6211. This was
the sort of economy pursued in this department
—" Ex 21710 disce omnes." He had moved for a
Return:to chew the number of clerks who were
paid in other ways than by salaries which ap-
peared in the Estimates. He found about fifty
clerks that were paid by bills and debentures.—
The expence of the Storekeeper General's De-
partment he complained of, and declared it to
be his Conviction that the duties of Ordnance
Establishments at Chatham, Woolwich, and in
every part of -Great Britain (not excepting the
office of the Hon. Gentleman), might be performed
in from one to two hours in each day. He remarked
on the expen-ces incurred under heads to which he
had not previously alluded, and stated each
Department to bear on its face the marks of re-
dundant numbers, or, if this were not the case,
of unnecessary expence. Under these circum-
stances he would move that a reduction of 25 per
cent., or 15,8181., should be made on the grant
proposed. To this motion be trusted the House
would not hesitate to agree. He had hoped that
the salaries of Ministers, and that the whole
Civil List, would be reduced to this extent. The
salaries of Members of the American Government
had been reduced to half what they were for-
merly, and in his opinion such an example was
worthy ..of imitation. _ln reducing the present
grant, he would have the Board to make the dis-
tribution as they should think 'proper, with the
hope, that reduction, if made, would not be ef-
fected at the expence of those who performed the
duty, while those who received large salaries
were spared. He moved, as an amendment, that
the sum-of 27,2531. should be submitted for that
of 43,000/. which had been proposed.
Mr. R. WARD regretted the necessity he was
under of troubling the Committee at some
length ; but, after the challenge which had been
thrown out to him by the Honourable Gentle-
man, he found this was unavoidable. He again
insisted that the Duke of Wellington, instead of
making new appointments, had constantly applied
himself to the suppression of all useless oflices. The
67 appointments which he had been stated to
to have made, he (Mr. W.) had • succeeded, on
a former night, in reducing to eight or ten ;
and of these the Honourable Gentleman had him-
self admitted the appointment of Captain Ag-
new to be a very proper appointment. The
Honourable Gentleman had, on a former night,
complained of a discrepancy in the Ordnance Ac-
counts. lie (Mr. W.) denied the existence of such
a discrepancy, and maintained that he was borne
out in that denial by a fact admitted by
the Honourable Gentleman himself, that of the
Ordnance Department being out of debt.—
The Honourable Member, in* challenging his
correctness, had described him to have as-
serted that the Board of Ordnance had uniformly
paid the most implicit attention to the Reports
made by the several Committees of Finance and
Inquiry, and pointing out some recommendations
which had not been complied with, he supposed
he had established his (Mr. W.'s) want of accu-
racy. lie denied that he had ever stated that the
Board of Ordnance had complied with the. Re-
ports of the Committees of Finance and Inquiry.
What he had stated was, that those Reports had
not been rejected asa dead letter. He had never
said that all the recommendations they contained
had been complied with ; but, on the contrary,
he had pointed out various instances in which
those reports had not been attended to. The
Hon. Gentleman complained that one part of
what he, had called the staff pay had been brought
into the Estimates under the head of " Repairs."
He (Mr. W.) had been prepared, if no opposition
had been offered to these estimates, to propose that
the extra pay of clerks and overseers, in certain
cases, should be separated from the expences in-
curred for materials. The Hon. Member had
alluded to the extravagant praise which those con-
nected with the Ordnance had bestowed on the re-
ductions effected in thatdepartment since the peace.
He denied that any such praise had been bestowed.
When a reduction was made of one part of the
establishment to half what it had previously been
in 1817, some gentlemen in the Opposition had
been pleased to say, that the Ordnance Depart-
ment ought to be taken as a pattern for the other
branches of Government. He had quoted this
remark, but he had never said that the Ord-
nance' ought to be taken as a pattern by the
other departments of Government. When the
Hon. Gentleman taxed him with incorrectness
with respect to the measurement of a paltry boat,
he felt that he bad a right to retort the charge,
and he would be well content that the House
should judge from the result of the comparative
accuracy of the Hon. Gentleman and himself.
On causing the boat which had been alluded to
(the Harmony) to be measured, he had fount
that it was of 88 or 90 tons. This was rather
more than he had previously said, and therefore
his statement was correct. This fact the Hon.
Gentleman did not know how to get over. But
how did he Meet it ? Why, by having recourse to
another vessel, and naming the Lord Howe. On
the former evening he had heard nothing of the
Lord Howe, while he was in the House. When
in the lobby, the Hon. Gentleman had spoken of
the Lord Howe, to which he replied, that of

that vessel he knew nothing, but what they hid
differed abOtit was the Harmony.
Mr. Hulit wished to offeisa word in expla-
nation.—(Cries Of " Order !")
Mr. R. W.-tan continued. He would readily
give way to allow the Hon. Gentleman to.explain,
bud in this case there ceuld be no occasion for
explanation. Every on knew that it ivas the
Harmony of which they had been speaking. The
name had rung in, his ears ever since, in conse-
quence of the harmonious discord which it had
produced in that House. The Hon. Gentleman
had. now given up the Harmony, and gone to the
Lord Howe and if he should meet with a new

discomfiture, he supposed he was prepared to go
to some other vessel. As the matter stood, he
called upon the House to determine which of
them had been proved to be most correct. lie
had often been puzzled,,uot from the difficulty
of answering the Hon. Gentleman's statements ;
but looking at human nature in a philosophical
point of view, and without meaning any thing
disrespectful to the Honourable Gentleman, he
had often been at a loss to judge of the frame of
the Honourable Gentleman's mind and under-
standincr, from the manner in which he con- I
ducted his opposition. He was disposed to at-
tribute the conduct pursued by the Honourable
Gentleman to three causes. The first of these
was the possession of a great share of what
Sterne called " honest gullibility." He meant
nothing disrespectful when he said this, for Sterne
himself had considered the possession of this
quality very desirable, and had accordingly said
—" Far be it from me not to have my share of

gullibility. Of him who has it not, I can only
say that it is so much the worse for his own hap-
piness." If Sterne's hypothesis were well found-
ed, he cmild not but congratulate the Moth Gen-
tleman opposite, for he (Mr. Ward) had never

met with a man who appeared to be more largely
endowed with that enviable quality.—(A laugh.)
—A single instance of this " honest gullibility"
had been displayed in the Hon. Gentleman's
discoveries with regard to the Borough of Queen -
borough. The Hon. Gentleman had found out
that there were but 17 persons employed by the
Ordnance in 1802; whereas the number of Queen-
borough people employed by the Ordnance at
that period amounted to 56. The lion. Member
here read to the Committee a letter he had received
from Admiral Sir J. Gore, with reference to a

statement which had been made by the Hon. Gent.
(Mr. Hume) on a former occasion. In that let-
ter Sr.i J. Gore distinctly denied that he had

ever entered into any negotiation with the Store-
keeper at Sheerness, and expressed considerable
indignation that. the Hon. Gentleman should have

made use of his name without being possessed of
better information. The letter went on to state,
that it was true that he (Sir J. Gore) had nine
months before been applied to by the Admiralty
to ascertain, if there was any house belonging to
the Ordnance that would be suitable for the Ad-
miral. While engrossed in this examination, an
old man, whose.name he did not know, had come
and said " If you take my -house away from me, I
hope you will give me another." Not knowing
who the person was, he had given no answer.
He had afterwards understood that ha was a
Storekeeper, but never since that period had
any communication passed between them on
the subject. 'The Gallant Admiral added,
that as his name had been publicly mentioned,
he trusted the whole business would be as
publicly explained. Another cause of the
Honourable Gentleman's inaccuracies, was that
he appeared frequently to labour under con-
siderable confusion of ideas. Thus he had
called magazines floating batteries. To this
confusion of ideas he attributed other mistakes,
which he particularised. He had stated, that
particular officers had: been allowed to retire on
full pay, after a service of three or four years.
He had no doubt he meant to say, that they had
retired on half-pay, but had described them to
have retired on whole pay.—He then proceeded

to remark upon the observations of the Honoura-
ble Member, with respect to the Gunpowder
Magazines, and asked, if it was worthy of one
who wished to be thought a great and wise Re-
former, to say that it would be better that all the
gunpowder magazines should be blown up, than
that a few thousands a year should be expended
in keeping them in their present state ? But the
fact was, that the greatest possible reduction was
made, even in this matter. The Noble Duke at
the head of the Ordnance had, in the course of
the last year, put down five of the floating pow-

der magazines, by loading the others in such
manner that they could with difficulty keep the
powder in a proper state, so that although in
consequence of
.the motion of the Hon. Gentle-
man the Return was made out of twelve, yet
they were at present actually reduced to seven.
The lion. Member had stated that the 11,0001.
a year under this head was an exclusive charge,
but it was not so, it was included in the Return,,
as he could see at once by a reference to them ;
but the Hon. Member was too much in the habit
of indulging in reveries ; and if he (Mr. W.) did
not know that the Hon. Member was inde-
fatigable in his exertions, he would have sup,
posed that his whole time was passed in nothing
but a reverie, which was a sort of employment
of the fancy without any exertion of the under-
standing. It might be said of him, with a slight
alteration of the words of the poet—

" The Member's eye, in a fine phrenzy rolling,
Glances from heaven to earth, from oarth to heaven ;
And, as imagination bodies forth
The form of things unseen, the Member's eye
Turns them tcrshape, anti gives to airy nothing
A local habitation and a name."—(A laugh.)
Ire then went on to observe upon the case of
Capt. Dickenson, apd entered into a statement
of his services ; he added, that he was now 70
years of age, and had been in arduous service 40
years, and therefore whatever might be resolved
upon with respect to future superintendants of
the shipping, he was sure that the Committee
could not have- a wish to reduce the salary of so
old and meritorious an. Officer. With respect to
the Artillery Establishment, the Hon. Member

had stated that it was still a war establishment,
although it was under- 8,000 men ; but this was
only auother instance of that confusion of mind
which -his statements manifeSted. He had also
objected to the increase of Clerks. An increase
of Clerks had constantly taken place ; but when

it ti•as considered how Much the establishment
had been enlarged, and the stations multiplied
since 1792, it would not appear strange that
such an increase had happened. He (Mr. W.)
had stated on the former night, the average of
the salaries of the clerks-in the Ordnance, depart-
ment,.which was not incite ,than 226/., and was
below the average of salaries in all the other de-
partments. He -.would ask the Hon. Member,
why it was then that he quarrelled with the
Ordnance, rather than with the other departments
on this account ? He had quarrelled even with
the very constitution of the Board, and with the
Commissions of Inquiry, because they had not an-
nihilated it. his wishes were not less extrava-
gant than that of the character in the play, who
exclaims—

" Ye Gas, annihilate both space and time,
" And make two lovers happy."
The salary of the Treasurer was another point
which the llon.'Member had dwelt- upon ; he
said that salary had been raised 'from 5001. to
1200/., but that was not instantaneously dOne, it
had been recommended by a Report of Commis-
sioners, and another Report complained of the
increase not having been made, and it was after
that second Report it took place. Ile then re-
plied to the objection which the Hon. Member
had taken to what he called an improvident con-.
tract for horses, with Wilful. As that contract
had been entered into in 1805, he (Mr. W.) was
not accountable for it ; but he was quite certain
that if his Right Hon. Friend, the Master of the
Mint, who was then in the situation which he had
the honour to fill, was present, he would give a
satisfactory account of the business, and prove,
that instead of a waste of money in this contract,
there was a real saving; and he was sure the
Commissioners of Military Inquiry had not, in this
instance, when they framed their decision, the
true evidence before them. lie then went on
to. reply to statements made by the lion. Mem-
ber, in animadverting on his speech of the former
night, and explained and defended his arguments
on that occasion. He also referred to the case
of Mr. Hodgkins, a.clerk, who had been dis-
missed, and the decision relative to whom the
Hon. Member wished the Board to re-consider ;

such an interference could never be allowed,
there was a regular way of proceeding, and it
was open to the Hon. Member to submit a mo-
tion to the House on the subject. He had now
gone through all the objections which had been
stated, and trusted that he sufficiently proved to
the House that they were neither unsound in
point of information, or invalid in argument.
Colonel DAVIES supported the statements of
his Hon. Friend the Member for Aberdeen ;, be
denied that the Hon. Gentleman's speech was
an answer to them. He had gone much upon the
argumenhan ad hominem, and seized upon some
desultory expressions not connected with the
substance of his statements, while he avoided all
close encounter with the facts and arguments to
which he was bound to make out a satisfactory
reply. He had charged his Hon. Friend too
with indulging in reveries, but he (Colonel D.)
believed the House to be of opinion that he dealt
in solid substantial stuff, and that nothing could
be less like " airy nothing" than the statements
which he was in the habit of making. It was said
that his Hon. Friend had a capacious swallow,
but he was convinced that he would make the
Ministers. swallow such a pill as they should find
very hard of digestion. He then entered into
certain details to prove the truth of his Hon.
Friend's charges, and complained of the general
system of the Ordnance Board as one of useless
and extravagant expenditure.
Sir U. BURGH observed, that instead of 67
appointments, which were said to have been
made by the Duke of Wellington, as Master-Ge-
neral of the Ordnance, he had made only 13.
Mr. MABERLY wished the Iton. Gentlernasl
would turn his attention to the Storekeeper',
Department, before the Barrack and Commis"
sariat Estimates were brought before the House,
as he was persuaded that a very great saving
might be effected by a judicious consolidation.
Mr. HomE allowed that he was not competent
to vie with the Honourable Gentleman opposite
in wit, and eloquence, and poetry ; but still
thought it unfair that the Hon. Gentleman shoal('
have dwelt so long on his (Mr. Hume's) bareness
of intellect and gullibility. This was, however/
a sufficient proof to him that the Honourable Gen"
tleman was wholly unable to answer one of the
statements which he had made ; anti in fact
he had not done so. In 1796 the civil depart-
ment of the Ordnance at the Tower and West;
minster cost only 18,000/. ; now the vote required
was 63,0001. After entering into a variety
details on the subject, he concluded by propos"
ing, as an Amendment, a reduction in the ltcs°-
lution of 25 per cent.; namely, that was by tr

ducing the vote by 15,7501.
Sir U. BURGII and Mr. WARD shortly 0"
plained, after which the Committee divided--

For the Amendment
Against it __ - •

73
134
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Majority

The next Resolution, moved by Mr. AVAtiv'
was 20,162/. 3s. 4d. for the Storekeepers' De-
partments in the Outports. •
Mr. Ilumr. objected to a variety of the ofilcue:
in those departments, and among others t"-
Firernaster, the Inspe-ctor of the Powder 'At:
nufactory, the Inspector of- Artillery, °—
Inspector of the Brass Foundery, the inspec
tor and Deputy Inspector of the Carriagi
Department, &c. Ile also objected to seve°,
offices being held by the same indkiduak.—
The Honourable Member went on to find fat:3
with the establishment at Sheerness which LI:
contended was a large and useless expense to t 1
'e
For instance, a great number of peg'"
sons had houses on the establishment, though 11/
out of six persons let their houses and reside" a,
Queenborough. In fact, the whole of the Shee.-
ness establishment ought to he dispensed
Besides, several individuals had been detecte"„l r
taking coals and other public stores, but alLee,
inquiry they had been restored to their places?Lis
cause they were freemen of Queenborough. "r.
was the influence exercised with respect to a Paii.
denial. class of individuals, and if the Hon. Gefis
tlemen opposite wished to relieve those persoo..o
from a charge of peculation, he called tw
ri
them to place the Report of the commissj°"

of inquiry on the Table. Mr. Hodgkins, who had
denounced the peculators, had been dismissed,and
this was the punishment held in terrorem over the
heads of those persons who attempted to point
out any abuse. The Hon. Member, after some
further observations with respect to the esta-
blishments at Portsmouth, Plymouth, and Guern-
sey, concluded by stating, that a reduction of 2.5
per cent. ought to take place upon the proposed
grant ; he would therefore move that a sum not
exceeding 15,1221. 7s. 6d. be granted for the
above service.
Mr. WARD answered the observation of Mr.
Hume. With respect to Sheerness, it was the
intention of the head of the Ordnance to reduce
that establishment so soon as the stores could be
removed to Chatham. Until the change we.y
effected, the present expense must of necessity
go on. The Hon. Member objected to what he
called large salaries enjoyed by Gentlemen who
performed services. But if Officers of distin-
guished talent rendered great services to the
country, they were intitled to remuneration.
With respect to the Storekeeper, the Hon. Gen-
tleman ought always to recollect that large sala-
ries were given, not as a remuneration for the
duties of the office, but for long services. The
Storekeeper alluded to had been thirty years in
the service. He did not see that it was possible
to strike off the proposed reduction. The Hon.
Gentleman had perhaps been misled on the sub.
jest of the duties discharged by officers. Malig-
nant charges Were frequently made, which were
generally destitute of foundation. A letter was
-received a short time since, filled with statements
-"lid: the Board refused to notice. They were
then told, if it was not attended to, the letter
'would be sent to Mr. Hume.
Sir W. CONGREVE observed, that he was not
in the habit of speaking of himself, but the ob.
sPrvations of the Hon. Member for Aberdeen
called for a few words in explanation. The lion.
Aiember said, he was overpaid for his services.
All he had at the Royal Arsenal did not exceed
twenty-five shillings per day. lie was Inspec-
tor of the Repository and Inspector of Machines;
for the first he had twenty shillings, and the se-
cond five shillings per day. The first office was
held by his father for many years, and since he
had been raised to the situation, it had been his
_Pride to discharge the duties of it. If the Hon.
Gentleman went to Woolwich, he would see that
the Repository was a military school for all
branches of service. The pupils were instructed
in the art of passing artillery over ravines, liar%
row roads, canals, and various military move-
ments. lie had had the happiness to complete
the Machine'Department, and if the lion. Mem-
ber would take the trouble to see what had been
done, he would say the services of the depart-
ll'eot were not overpaid. In the laboratory there
could be no tinecure. The nature of the duty,
a Id the preparation of stores rendered a fire-mas-
ter of great importance, notwithstanding the
-"on. Member had described that office as useless.
Mr. J. SMITH bore testimony to the. great ser-
Vices rendered to the country by the exertions of
the Hon. Baronet who had just sat down. lie
for one could not consent to a reduction of one
shilling in that Hon. Member's department. lie
hl9t also, that if the suggestions of the lion.
aronet had been attended to, a great step would
gave been taken to check, if not entirely to put
,!°(1 to, forgeries upon- the Bank.
ir G. COCKBURNE felt it necessary to state,
by the
the naval service had been highly benefited
Yi,tlle improvements made by the lion. Baronet.
itqr. HumE did not wish to go over the several
ems in which a saving might be made, but he
bimiu point out one. In one of our large esta-
I"shroents, the whole of the men, 800 in num-
oer
were paid off under the superintendence of
14,"" Storekeeper, whereas there was now, in the
cc" e department,
.a Paymaster and clerks, re-
tkeiving salaries amounting to 7681. a year, for
"c,: Purpose of paying off 40 men.
Iv 41r. J. SMITH objected to such a reduction as
-I,l°lld affect the salary of the Gallant Officer
ic'se serviees entitled him to the gratitude of
. e country.
Arr. HUME said, that in order to secure the
Ote of his lion. Friend, and save the sum for the
4..allant Officer's salary, he would be satisfied
tlr a reduction of 4;2951., which he moved ac-
f°
The Committee then divided as
lows
For the Amendment -
Against it

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Majority - - - -
rece..e noose having resumed, the Report was ordered to be
~,),Arede
this da.
1044 e other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the
43adjourned at One o'clock this Morning.

L7I'EttsTITI o v.—lt is related of Buonaparte, that
d never began any great undertaking on a Fri-
aYs from the notion that the day was fatal to
t,llFcess. Similar instances are not wanting, where
"is sort of weakness has attached itself to strong
Illitlds; for Dr. JOHNSON firmly believed in the
remarkable
of apparitions, and the Romans were
for attaching good or ill fortune to
-
1941;ticular days. We may smile, in this en-
tightened age, at such folly ; but that certain
°4YS are more lucky than others will be readily
N,‘"ed by those persons, who, by a timely ad-
Veriture, have secured a Share of the great Ca-
itals, to be all drawn Next Thursday, (17th
1,4 Y,) Two of k 21,000, and 4,005 other Prizes.
Vcket only Fourteen Guineas.
--Sixteenth only
ienty Shillings.
s_F•litAP LOTTERY.—IIAZARD and Co. have on
1:01e Ticket and Share Chalices for the present,
CtterY.—The Scheme contains 4,007 Prizes, in-
ohding Two of Twenty-One Thousand Pounds
1:c. sols, Tw.o of Four Thousand Pounds, &c.
All of which must be drawn NEXT Tll,llltS-
v*lY) and may be gained for a much smaller
sum
enly lan usual, as the Price of a Ticket Chance is
141. 14s. Sixteenth Chance only Twenty
Shillings.—The first 100 Numbers drawn will
eh be entitled to a New Chance for another
Number
u_rritier
:;2 on the oth June, for Two Prizes of
200 , Consols, and 3,000 other Prizes. HA-
'3p and co have recently sold Four Prizes of
co.
,3°°o, and Eight of
,e 20,000. HAZARD and
uatse • Old Established Offices, Royal Exchange
~liclo6, Cornhill ; and 321, Oxford-street,
paolcolui.ntyAln,doly their Agents in all the
Princi-
ns.