The Sun.
London, England, 1819-12-02 00:00:00

PAUPER cHiwn EN.

On the motion of RHOGDEN, a Retnrn was
ordered tai he laid bttore the 1i0n..., froth the
~e'iral Parish(s the Hills of Mortality, of
the and Female Pauper Children belonging
to those Veirishes.
Grit. S:7PERANNUATION ALLOWANCES AND I‘P.-
lATARY ll.Ectturrs.
On the motion of Colonel DAVIES, an Rccotlnt
was ordered to he laid before- the lloti:e of the
names of all persons belonging to the Civil De.
partments connected with the Army in Great Bri-
tain and Ireland, receiving allottlinces, camper).
ations. cintiltiments, &c. by way of r.uperannni.
Hot), dcsclibine, the alumi! received by each in-
dividnal, and the length of his services.----;Also an
• Aeroflot of the Number of Recruits raised for the
Land Forces in Great Britain and Ireland, from
50) Oct. 1818 to sth Ocr. 1819. •
CALL OF THE HOUSE.

Mr. BeNNET rose to state, thit it Was not his
intention to move for the Call of the House
to-morrow, of which be had given notice. As
from 570 to TrSt) Members bad attended during
the late discussions, he thought that a sufficient
Sense of the importance of the measures proposed
Was diFphyed, alld it might he inconvenient to
summon other Members, trom perhaps the centre
of Irelmid and distant places, who, besides,
eonld not. be able to be in their places in
The CHANCELLOR (If the EXCHEQUER, Snit!, if
the nun. Member had pressed his motion, it was
not the intention of his Majesty's Government to
have oppo;ed it. At the.same time they were of
opinion, that the unusually lull attendance of the
Douse left little more to hope for from any such
proceeding, and showed that Gentlemen were
folly aware of the momentous nature of the duties
they were now called upon to discharge.
COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY.

The CnAsctELLott of the ExcuEctuult moved,
that the iiou,e should resOlveitsclrinto a Com-
mittee of Supply ; and on the.ques;ion that ;,he
Speaker do leave the Chair,
Mr. BROUGHAM objected to it, on the ground
that it was a consiirutioval mode of bringing ti►e
grievances of the subject under notice to oppose
the grant of supplies. Hi, therefore, seized this
occasion to urge his objections to the extrolordi-

vary baste with which it scented to be determined
to hurry through the new measures. If they
Avere temporary or local, the nature of the, case
might be different, but great and permanent as
was the change they were calculated to effect in
the Constitution, it was in•the highest degree in-
decent to press them on with this nocsampled ra-
pidity. With a notice of 43 hours, 12 of which
%vele necessarily occupied in debate, they were
to-morrow to be called upon to discuss the prin-
ciple of a system by which the laws of England
relating to the liberties of the suhject in essential
,particulars were to be changed for ever. This
course, be repeated, was indecent towards the
Howe, and indecent towards the people, who,
wino the Legislature was making a change" of
which they could see no chance of repeal, bad a
right to delay, to enable them to have their
voices and feelings felt before the Act was irre-
mediable. Yet the Noble Lot d would not grant
one day, and insisted on the second reading to-
snotrow, before the country, except the metro-
His and nearest counties, could know what_ the
metisures were, or have an opportunity of ex- •
pressing its sentiments. It was not- so in -
when three--works wcie allowed-for deliberation,.
though there tV®s then the same emergency. If

the Hottse resolved to decide without discussion,
if it was tired of the British Constitution, helnust
agree svith an Hon. Gentleman who spoke last
night, that they would be discharging but a
thankless office by attending there front day to
day, and endeavouring to induce the House to
its duty. On those grounds he opposed thc-mo•
:ion, out would not divide nFon it.
The House having resolved into the Committee,
Sir (jet)ticA3 WAIIRENDER proceeded to move
the Navy Estimates, which differed in only one
branch from those of last year. This was by the
athlition of 2,000 men to the Royal Marines, so
that the duties of the dock-yards might be per-

formed by tb,►t corps. lie accordingly moved, tha

23,000 rmn, including 8,000 marines, be ;;ranter.

for the nAval service, from Ist January /820.
Sir IZAAC COFFIN Wifliel.l to know if any in•
crease was intended to he made w.ith respect to
the guard-ships, lie would state one anecdote,
to show ihe deficiency of this part of our naval

\Vhen the Anstri:in Archtiokes went to

‘isic one of our dock-yards, nil that the British

Navy could display to do them honour, were four
jolly-boats, steered by the Cap►ains of the vessels.
Yet these were a useful description:of force when

expedi!iDtts for actual service, such as that -re-
ly dispatcfiedrottud Cape florri, were wanted.

Thc Honourable Alember ridiculed the me of sea-

men on the preventive service, where they were

tinder tlre command of the Chancellor of the Ex:

checilier.

Whenthey returned from these smug-

sling exploits, Naval Officers would rather have

new it►en than such sailors.

Illr. J. GRANT wislitd the House to retnem-
ber .beteafte-r, that by the etuployment of the ad-
ilitionAl 2;000 how proposed in the dock-yards,

2,000-SoMitts kir fmid be rvlieved from military duty,
mud. wwild: be, in effect, adding 2,000 to the
11.000-asked for in the increase of the army.

-Mtarri 1,1 said, the ditties of the dock-
yards had formerly been done by marines, and it

alwas highly desirable that it should be so.
Sir GBORGE WAHRENDER *fated, that WWI tt•

-ord mite guottl ships,- tire requisite evinqnly
the service did not tender any departure from the
system of last year advisable. He instanced as a
praof that 'they were in an efficient state, that the
Superb, iu which Sir T: Hardy lolled; was fully
tquipped. in -font days, and her. r amidement of
men afterwards speedily made
Mr. Mininv•was far from disapprovina of the
employment of marines in the Dock-yard, but 're-
iterated the qiiestion if, by their adoption, the
army was not virtually augmented, to the munlier
of 2000. He also wished to know how the addi
tion was re, be made.

It was stated, across the table-by Spreading
the men over the existing battalions ; 'and tti
some torther conversation, in which Sir G. Os-
borne and Mr. Coker participated, the latter
mentioned that the number of soldiers released
trom dot y, ui rendered applicable by this dr-
raneement, would be in fact 1200.

The Reitilistion was Ilreo agreed to. Also Re,
solotions tai gnaw...-
650,3:7:31. for Wages, at the rate of 21. 3s. 6d. per man per
month.

6►2,9501. for Victualling, at the rate of 21. ls. I.er man per
month.

61c2.93ni. {bh WVAr and Tear, and

104,7501. f,,r. Ordnance.

Ou (lie second hew a desultory debate ensued,
Mr. liAttino objecting In an increase of Is be-
yond the Estinhve of last year, and the CHAN-
CELLOR of the EXCHEQUER explaining it As round-
ed on experience, the grant of last year being
finind to he insofticient.

The Himse his lie re4timed. the Report was
ordered to be received f .

NEW STAMP I)UTIEg.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved,
that the 1-lon,e should resolve itself into a Com-
mittee on the Stamp Act. Also that it be an in-
struction to the said Committee to lay a duty on
certain Newspapers and Publications referred
to it.

The House having gone into this Committee,
the Right' Hon. Gentleman observed, that the
present proceeding was merely for the purpose of
bringing in a Bill according to the usual Parlia-
mentary form ; and as the measure itself might
be frequently fully discussed in the stages of that
Bill, he would not provoke it nosy by any Obser-
yatiou, but simply move a Resolution, That all
pamphlets and newspapers so called, or papet s
containing news and occurrences, or •remarks on
political occurrences, or nit the establiskinents in
etorch or State, not -exceeding two sheets, and
sold or exposed 10 sale in any part of Great Bri-
tain.or Ireland, at a price less than sixpence, ex-
clnsive of the duty, shall be within the meaning
and provisions of the Stamp Act.
Mr. IlanuGnAM, as this was merely a form'al
proceeding, consented to postpone the discussion
of the question. He was the more ivelioed to do
this, as, fill the Bill was brought in, the House
could not be sequain eta with the details, and
especially with the exceptions, which were, no
doubt, intended to be made. Reserving, there-
fore, his opinion on the InLisure, he should at
present only advert to one c.reutosi ance. Be-
sides accusing the proprietors of the pernici-
ous publications aimed at by this measure last
night, of impiety, blasphemy, and sedition, the
Noble Lord opposite had charged them with com-
mitting a fraud upon the Revenue. After the
avowal be had.-made of the ahhOrrence in which
he held their dtictritterr, lte trusted it would not be
imputed to hint that he had any favour for these
pefsons. But he wished them not ro be accused
of more than their offences. The Learned Gen-
'denten then argued, that by the Stamp Act, the
publishers of the twopenny wurks were not legally
liable to pay a duty. The tax was • laid on " any
newspaper, or paper containing public news, in-
telligence, or occurrences," which he contended
these. publications did not do, but cornment,:ties
on political Sllhj, VS, and therefore did not
come within the mcaning'of the Act. And it was
clearly the intention of. the L4islatine-that
they should not, for a dUty of enOther • kind
was laid on pamphlets, and books commonly so
called. Having concluded this legal argument,
the -Learned "Gentleman charged Minisiers with
neglect, and pledged- himself 'to prove that they
liad•nor checked those infamous vehicles-of blas-
phemy, impiety,• and sedition, by the old •law,• to
'which they might have applied, and to which,
notwi,hslanding their new enactments, they
-would hereafter Ise obliged to. apply as the sorest
remedy for the. evil. •
Lord CASTLEREAGH Said, if he was legally
wrong in charging these parties with.. fraud in
addition to their other
.crimes, he was ready to
retract his opinion, to:Which he was led by some
of the publications having forMerly paid the duty,
which they latterly 'etailed. With -regard to the
treasure now propoSed, the House' Coold not form
correct idea of the Bill 'was brOught'in.
Its purport' in 'one point of lien- was to place
more reSpectableperiodical publications, at least,
on faker principles of competition rhe'begg,ed to
say, that no concurrence in the vote of.this night
should be considered as a pledge to give any sup-
port whatever to the measure.
Mr. littouonaks explained, and •lief Or- he sat
down again begged to ask it It WaS really the
Noble Lord's intention to press .A the-Measures
with the preeipitaney•he had intiniated. 'lle did
hope that after the House was in' possession of
these measures, they 'should haYe Space' and rest
allowed to deliberate upon them, and the people
also a moment's pause,•probably for the last time.
L-trd CASTLEREAGH said, that as the House
had a reati y adopted the principle of the Bill to
prevent Seditious. Meetings, which stood for e
second reading to•morrow, .he would of course,
press that motion with regard to the Bill for lay-
ing on the new Stamp Duties ; the second reading
might beconvenirotly fixed four or five days after.
it was bought up, therefore some day about the
middle of next week.
Sir :11. V. Runes- protested against the as-
snmprion that the House It ad by any past' vote
sanctioned the principle of the Seditious Meet-
ings Bill.
PETER GRANT took the same course,
and ex pressed his opinion that that Bill was the
most important of all the measures proposed, as
it abrogated the common law on the liberties at
the subject.
The Recoltition was then agreed to; the House
resumed ; and the Report ordered to be received
to•morrow.—Adjout ned.

iIIE COLONS L 5.

CANADA.

(From the Quetee Gazettes of the sthlti the 31st of Oct.)

MONTREAL, OCT. 9.—We have seldom Mt it
more rapid change in the weather than has O'c-
cur'red within the last ten days.. In the end of
last isreeli and biginhing of the present, the cold
was very intense, so as to render stoves and fires
indispensably necessary. For the last three days
she heat has been very oppressive. The thermo-
Meter stood at 79 in the Mrertoon ; and front the
rapid transition the sensation was particularly un-
pleasant.
His P,teellenty Sir Peregrine Maitland, and
suite, Arrived in this City Oh Saturday evening, in
the Steam Boat Swiftsure, on his way from Que-
bec, where he had been taking leave of his illus-
trious tel the family of oor late Governor-
plevions to their departure for llngland.
And, on Monday. Sir 'Peregrine set out no Isis
roqie for Upper Canada, to resurne the duties of
his !nation as Lieutenailt-Governor its that Pfts-

vince

BoutibaeT Ltree.—lt is confirmed, that the
Commissioners under the treaty of Ghent for run-
ning the boundary line between the United States
and Lower Canada, have agreed to report, liat
the 45th degree of north latitude runs about one
mile and an half 10 (16e sorithwar d of Psonie's
Point ; and consequently that this fortified post
falls within the British province. it was pro-
bable this Was anticipated, as the works on that
Point !curie lon.g since been disi-ontinued.--4n a tra•
tiolial point of view this tesuli is of small inaltuurt.
ante, as, in the event of Hllot her War he‘ tweed
the United States and England, andthe possession
ot C 'nada should become a national objett, it
needs no second sight to foretel, that the former
need rely on no other point than chat of the bay-
onet to make a sate lodgment in the citadel ot
Qaebec in two months after the decimation.—
Boston Centinel.)
BUFFALO, SEPT. 24.—Considerable quanti!ies
of Wheat, of tie hest quality, were soh; at Fre-
donia, Chautancpte county, during the past week,
at thirty-seven and a half cents per bo,hel ; and
the Gazette states that it did not nicer a ready
sale. even at that price.
The second annual Cattle 'phew Exhilsition ant{
Ploughiog Match for the Di,triet of („2-lebec, took
place on the Plains of Abraham, on Tuesday and
Wedeestlay-thes.ll and 6th inst. according to the
advertisement of the Bth May last. The Cattle
She,v, althotigh sOperior. in some respects, in
others was interior to that of last year. Some
very•uselul Agricultural li»pleruents of a cheap
and easy construction made in- the country were
exhibited.' The spew of Vegetables, although not
very extensive, was of prime duality, and highly
creditable to Canadian Agriculture. But sew
ploughs were enteted, and some of them did tint
come forward. The work generally was interior,
partly however owing to the dryness of the land
an I the thickness of the sod, which had not been
turned over for the last twen'y or thirty years.
A great number of pi izes were adjudged, of which
an official list will be piiblidsed. Tit% Meeting,
although respectably attended, was' tar from be-
ing as numerous as might have been expected,
where an object of such general and acknowledg-
ed utility:Was to be prottioted.
We have great satisfaction in announcing, that
the pledge given to the pubhc on the part of the
Diocesan Committee of the Society forpromoting
Christian Knowledge, with respect to the estas
blishment of a School in Qaebee, in connection
with the -National Society at home, will imme-
diately be realized. A "Master and Mistress who
have undergone a regular course of training in the
Central School, at Baldwin's Gardens, and are
fully versed in the New System of Education,
have just arrived; *and the upper part ot the Hope
,Gate Barrack, which had been assigned for this
Pitt:rise hy our late lamented Governor-in-Met,
is now fitting up as a temporary School-loom,
and will be'ready for the reception of Scholars by
the first of next month. To iotrodoce into"these
Provinces the Madras System . of Education, has
been a principal object of the Diocesan Commit-
tee, from its first institution ; and in now recom-
mending it to the attention of the public, they
beg to assure them, that, without aiming at any
unnecessary innovation, or holding out any vi-
sionary perfection, no mode of Instruction has
hitherto 'been devised, which can at all come in
competition with it, in point of ease, expedi'ion,
economical and effective arrangement, aod gene-
ral adaptation to the wants of Society. That a
system, so simple in its mechanism, and 'at the
same time so coniprehensive in its objects, cannot
fail to be productive of much good, its a country
where the benefits of Education are so spasingly
diffused amongst the lower orders,-we cannot al-
low onrselVes to doubt ; and the venerable Socie-
ty tor the Priupagatiou of the Gospel, by whom
the Master and MiStress have beensent out to its,
has thus givers us a fresh prOof of its patented at-
tention to our best interests, and established, ano-
titer strong claim upon our gratitude, in additinn
to' what We noticed in our last week's Gazette.
Our only hope is that the community will eoralials.
ly co-operate with the Diocesan Committee',' and
thus give an impulse to the System, which may
enable it to circulate with tepidity and effect
tbrottglrOut the two Provinces.
• IVIONT'HIAL, OcT. 13.--41 is with much regret
we communicate to our readers the death of
John Ogilvy, Esq. British Commissioner for set-
tling the'bontulary- line between these Provinces
and the Milted States. He died at Amherstburg,
(U. C.) on the 28th ult. of a fever now very pre-
valent in those parts. He was perhaps the only
Gentleman its this district, who, rptitting com-
merce, turned the whale of his attentioo and ea-
Initial to agricultural pursuits.—What a benefit he
has been to this part of the Province in that, as
well as in many otluur respects, is well 'known.
The example he set is worthy of imitation.
Several Newspapers, -both in this Province and
United States, have, tor some tune past, enter-
tained their readers with reports of hostile pre•
paratio,s, of) the part of the British and American
Governments. So far as Great nritaio is con-
cerned, -these repot is - are without foundation, awl
we believe they are equally so with respect to the
United States. Front the moment that the Bul-
lish Ministry declared in Parliament, that they

would not interfere in relation to tilt .Fier"
all prospect of an immediate collision between the
tiro countries vanished. It is to that 4natter than
the ambition of the United States is directed at
present. The Vauntings of the Americans reitttii
ing to their means of subduing the Crtnadas,
no doubt be brought to the test on some future
ottation, acid probably with a. result similar tot"
two preceding attempts.
On Sunday morning, in the Cathedral Church!
the Rev. W. Macouley was ordained Priest; anti
Mr. R. Rolph and Mr. J. Stoughton were ordain'
ed Deacons by the Lord 13ishop of the Diocese.
The Service of the Day was
;performed by
Rev. Official Motintain, the Rev. E. Leigh, on"
the Rev. R. Knegg.
It is gratifying to observe the earnest which Ike
present Summer has afforded in the accession to.
the number of Clergy in this Diocese procured
front the Incorporated Society for the Propagd'
t ion of the Gospel, or provided upon the spot for
adoption upon their list ; and it is equally gm".
fying to observe the !souther of Churches actually
boilding or in contemplation. For the promotiO
01 this latter ol:z!et, it must be generally konµ't►
that a Fund exists in the Province witieh wat
raised by subscrip•ions in England. In addition
to the aid derived tram Ibis hind, and the laudable
exertions of the CongrOgations itutnediately touter'
net!, Subsoription Papers heve been circulated,in
the two l'rtminces for the erection of partiCalf
Churches, and at this moment there are sevetet
instances where tifete is cau4e tot anti, an ?prod*
But in the midst of the more pressing, calls in be"
half of the stranger, the sick, and the destitute,
under the erproachieg rigours of the wiuter,
judged prudent to sosperpl these applicriiiono"
And a 3 tire number of them is also stifficientl°
-operate as a check upon their successes it speed'
l""eu'td, it is proposed to font an additr'Un
to the existing general fond, from which parts'
coldr Churches may then draw an increa!,ed pro'
foothill 'of assistance, according to tit': wants'
cireurnstane_cs, and claims of the pa: t eugag.ed'
A Subtieripi lor this pitricole will he iny
mediately opened at this orifice; t hoogh, for the
leasons alreadY stated, the payment. will out b
required for some time.
A Poblic Dinner was elven yesterday, at 10,1'
hint's Hotel, to Captain Bust-lay, of the tit4i;
George Sythes, as a mark of gratitude for his
liteoess and attention to Mooseigneor the Arch'
bishop of Canada, during his passage to Liver'
pool.
About eighty Gentlemen 'sat clown, at five
o'clock, to a table fornislied in a Manner 1414
creditable to Mr.'Malltiot. Alter the cloth %yes
removed, the following toasts were drank

L. The King.
st. The Prim:v. Regent.
3. The Duke of York and the Army.
4. The Duke of Clarence and the ~Ary.
5, The Duke of Kent, and the ltuyal Family.
6. The President of the Province.
7. The Throne and the Altar, united fur the welfare °f

8. it onseir„nrur the Archbishop of Canada ; may he soon bet
t
re,torrd to a country repleee with his acts of bcatlicracr,
our gratitude.
9. Capt. Ihishby. 'Thanks fur his civilities and fibers
conduct towards the Archbishop.
10. The Militia of the Province, and the Heroes of CM'
leauguay.
1 I. Agriculture and Commerce, the sources of our pros'
perky.
Capt. Bushby, on his health being drank, ros4
and returned thanks, its a ft:•elitsg and inspressllll
manner.
The Hon. Colonel de Salaberty, C.B. who ti
been invited, and hononred the company with l'
presence,-On the 10th toast being diaok, roe'
alter some hesitation, and returned tlosoks, in
flame of his comrades at Chateauguay.
Many of the company Skit till a late hour, eninr,
ing themselves with that hilarity, harmony, A Os/
ft iendly feeling, which eminently distinguistrto
all those assembled on the present occasion.
DEAzu.-3t Ancaster, an Sundry morning last, Richa'
Hatt, Esq. aced 50:years—Member of the Proviuciai
ment, Judge of the District Court, and Major'of the sth ge;
&tent of Lincoln Militia. In him the Dtstrict or Gore it.l
met with an in eparable loss—as a Member M the Frovinco4
14arliathent he was firm and independent, and never swerr-ct
from the sound 'political principles which he early embraced.,
As a Jiidge, he Was -upright; -as a Soldier, he was bract
He was.sincere and cute taut. in his attachment to frirnrist
cautions and prudent- adviser, and alWays''criinntrinicalicrQ„
whatever he thought usvfnl and good. . Ditigence and „
dustry;Juitiee and Fidelity. ivere promirimit features i,,
commercial transactions. Libcrality of SeLithavat.
charity and goodness void of usicntati .n,Avere
adorned Ibis Christian pritfession. He was an afteetiool:
Inr<ba%ri, an indulgent patent, art agreeable curapaniu", a
a kind friend.—(U. G. P.icmix, Supt. es.)
rro be continued. 2

latrosToß..--A well dressed man, caning 1110"
self Captain Weston Phipps, R. N., who resiete°,
in Taunton about six weeks, had succeeded
obt,tining, goods to a considerable amount.
on is shOotiog'excursion at Minchrad, fast wee"
circumstances arose which incited swpicio° °f
„
his dishonest intentions, and soon atter
reiurn he was apprehended, when most of
property was found bis Lodgings, pack
up, ant! addressed to persons of differcPt
names, in tiiitant towns, to which it is Or
.posed, it teas his intention immediately to Pric
ceed. He had contrived to introduce llitro'c'
into several re9pectable families of that town and
t
neighbourhood. He is committed to IViltonGot't
for further exaininai inn. The prisoner is ab°ll,
5 feet hi2,l), and about thirty years ok atles,-4
tiler thin, but nni.,citlar and lard,u bot!, T"'t
is something in his air and cAannes khit gives lit
impression that he may halo: been on the "We"

COAL MARKET, Dtc. I.

Ship% at Market. Ships cold. Pnices.
041 • 474 6d. to 445.
11 Sauderlatie. .

13112'11g. .
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flu Monday last, in st..lantes's:place, the Lady of -- --a
Nvdaughter. 4, rifle,
Ott Tuesday eveniug last, 'abuut-sre u'elotli, Mrs• vl
of 55, Fleet-street, of a son.
—.oo'

. ' DIED. fee"
On Saturday eFenlng last, at bi.s house in 13.10"96
street, Mr. Al. 'Mader Ross, in the 57th year of his agie,;lool2
0,1 Tuesday, Nor. 30, in the t Bth year of his agc,
Myymott, Esq. of Durham-place, Lambeth.

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LONDON: Print(' d by .1. B. CAR.STA IRS, of 14,Y."'
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Ormond-strect, (.Queen-square; and published .41"
SCRIPPS, of No. 7, South 'Malton-street, at Or
(-Kee, No. 112, Strand ; where Adrettiscrnentifr
Leiters, &c. (post-paid) must he addressed.

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