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haalieett appointed a member, had been formed in
.conse-
quence of a resolution pass 4 ut a former meeting. That
resolution, which he should beg leave to read to them,
was in the following terms :
" That this Meeting, viewing with alarm the delays which
baie taken, place in forwarding assistance to the Greek Patriots,
ths;ut it necessary to appoint it committee to inquire into the causes
which have led to suehdelays, and also to inquire as to the appli—
cation of the last loan contracted for the 'service of the Greek Re-
public;"
Now, from the manner in which that resolution-was
worded, it was evident that tin inquiry into the causes of
the delayi which had taken plate in forwarding assistance
to the Greek patriots, was the primary object for which
the CoMmittee was appointed. When the committee first
commenced its liroceedings, a feeling existed in the mind
of every member that they were called upon to state with
whom those delays rested. Some imputed the blame to
Messrs. Ricardo some to Sir F. Burdett and Mr. Hob-
house, some to ifr. OalloWay, and others to the Greek
Deputies. Now the object of the committee was to re-
port to which of those partieS the blame attached. A
difference of opinion, as the gallant Chairman had inform-
ed. them, had sprung up -at an early period of their pro•
ceedings as to the propriety of giving publicity to
certain facts. Some members of it bad said that the
present was not the time for Making them public.—
He was of a different opinion, and understanditer
the object for which the committee was appointed
to have been such RH he had stated, he had preferred
resigning his seat in it to lending himself to it report winch
would not instruct the meeting, to that extent to winch it
ought to go. In what respect publicity was likely to in-
jure thiS cause, be did not pretend to know. Every paper
in the country hail long been speaking of the steam-boats
T
to be sent out against the arks, and of Lord Cochrane,
who was to command them. Could any thing which might
transpire in that room add to the.publicity which those
facts bad alrcady acquired? Was it not as notorious as
the Mt at noon-day, that the steam-boats were now in the
river'? the thivernment had been inclined to interfere
with them, it would have interfered before the present
time and us it had not interfered, he did not expect' that
any thing which might that day come from the committee,
would induce it to interrupt their sailing. He repeated,
that the object for which the committee had been ap-
pointed Was to. ascertain the causes of the delay; and
though the committee had decided that they ought not to
state,an opinion upon that point, he would give to the
meeting.facts for them to form an opinion upon. If, in
reading certain letters, blame should appear to attach to
certain Individuate, he begged that it might not be consi-
dered not as his fault, but as theirs. dt gentlemen who
passed tis patriots, and enjoyed the honours which belonged
to cinch distinction, laid undertaken a tusk for which they
were either unqualified or ill-disposed, it was they who
ought to bear the blame, and not those who suffered by
their want of talent or energy. The first letter which he
should read to them, was written so far back as the 24th
of May last, and was addreoed to Sir F. Burdett, Mr. j.
C. flobhouse, and Mr. .Elliee, by the deputies Orlando
and Luriettia,

To SIR r.llinlrrT, BARI., ILA. JOHN CAU HOISHOUSr, ESQ.,
M.P., AND NDWARn ELLWE, RsQ.,
May 24, 1826.
Gentlemen,--The situation of Crewe demands that we should
again .address you. The greatest . and moot dreaded misfortune
that,coula happen to our country has befallen it. The brave gar-
rison of Migeolonglii, after 'holding out for more than four pars,
after performing prodigies of valour, and *Willing the greatest
hardships and privations, has been compelled, by famine, to aban-
don the town awl its inhabitants to the nonce anti vengeance of
our sanguinary enemies ; whilst the iiiians Of providing that sue-
cow which wold have averted this heart-rending calamity have
been totally neglected. Had the erratigentente we concluded with
you in Auguat.lett hem curried into effect, we should not hove had
to deplore this sad event. Within two months, or within two
months and a half at the latest, (such is the language, of the agree-
ment), front the 17th of August, hag steam-boats were to have
.. 1A... aivo..l of <Nniirmitt, .
autniUunder
of ihe Auxiliary Marine Vim* in the service of the Greek
Government ; and to secure this important aid, we agreed
to set apart no less a VIM than 1.50,000/. What has been
since done? We gave instructions to Wears. Ricardo to ap-
propriate the stipulated amount in fultiltneot of that pert
of the agreement. Nine numtles have since ellipazd ; not a
single steam-boat has left this country, nor will one of them,
unless some decisive step be immediately taken, be in a condition
to put to sea, for many months to come. We therefore tall upon
you, on behalf of our auffering countrymen, asl4 wv claim for
them, anti f r ourselves, your serious and prompt attention to the
subject. When we refer tti the agreement, and call back to our
recollection all the eircuingtaneass which weeded and attended the
formation of it, we 'cannot but feel the greatest aatonieliment,
mingled with the deepest regret, at the result. We were watered
by you, gentlemen, that, by entering into the arrangement, we
should secure the independence of Cireeee. tt Within a few
weeks," said Mr. Rhine, "Lord Onthratio will be at Constanti-
nople, nil will burn the Turkish vowels in that port. You will
waut neither Napier .nor any, other Pelleral ; Cochrane Mow will
mallet: at the 'same time for .your admiral and general. If you
wish, he-can take 200 and 300 men with him, and hind them
in Greece. Do not divide the sum with Napier, let the. whole of
the 150,000/. be for the expedition of Lord CoChrane; he, will
clear Greece of the Ttirks." "I will engage," replied Sir F.
Burdett to Mr. Orlando, on his heaitating to appropriate so large
a auto to this, one object,'" I will engage, ll Will give you my
word Of honour, that this erraagement shall be faithfully milled
into effect. Give yourself no further . concern about the id uiri
your tanuitry will be saved."
itaine, the talent, and the intrepidity of Lord Cochrane,
net:eve-oily inspired us with the most usibmilided confidence in the
*WWI, of hit operittlollB, end we could not for a 1111,111Plit hove
believed, after the aesnretwee given to us, that the arrangement
would not. have been promptly and faitlitidly welded, ao as to
place the force provided for at his Lordships disposal within the
tone limited. Imagine to yourselves, then, gentlemen, what
must be our disappointment and mortification Whets, after the lapas
of snmany months, we find that not even one vessel is yet in the
least ready for sea.
From the moment the arrangithent Was concluded, and we had
given direetions' for the appropriation of the necessary funde, the
affair was taken entirely out 1-4. inn' bands, We were not con-
sulted or evert informed of the measures taken for fulfilling it.
Instead of purchasing vessels according to the terms of the agree.
merit, orders, as we afterwards learned, %vete given fur building
them; and, strange to say, one engineer alone wag employed to
prepare all the steam engines and machinery. In vain have.wit
applied" and appealed to you on the subject. Our interference low
been regarded as improper, or we have been referred to Messrs. Bi-,
„„e,,,,whohave told us that the matter rested entirely with Mr.
Gana;vay, the engineer, whilst the latter gentleman scarcely recog-
;aim' na i:+ interested partiea, and lets snore than once hesitated to sa-
tisfy our ingeiries. What, then, are we to do? Is time money that
I," been approcriated to this elijort to be loot to our country? and
,s the ei`riifte we sunlit to reader it, and have-purchased et
so high it rate, to he withheld oe ildefinitely postponed.? Our
countrymen all aloud to to; fur the len-promised aid. 04 clot
racter is compromised by the thltty, end your own cannot fait to
be impugned, should the fapts colon Were the public. in the
mean' tittle the interesav of Greene are titsgwted.; and a whole nu- ,
u' OM' yoke of its beam-
tion is on the point of again falliog mlti
roes and relenthess oppressor. There he,,howayor?, yet time
to
prevent this dire catastrophe, and ere the lot vital Uwe he given,
we cull nrin you to exert youreeivrs, n.n4 adopt owlacy Y
steps, Will it be erudite d, that it was le te opeeaghleer7"` prey.
tie ftgiuoi and mWepachinery for six vessels,. ta
eo were to her
. within
got itiety for sea two months tt.nila the cn-
gineex charged with this Service behalfan . (if ,khoulti „.00
We have float,
who is employed by, and has for a long time pest a son at
Alexandria, in the pay of the Pitt ha of l-gtPt?'
all in oar power to obtain for Greece
Lord Cochrane's enterprise the
ould 1
and skill w w
have again end again solicited your attention to
delay
ink;
n wt
urged upon you the dreadful consequeneee 11 WI
e of our coup-
mice owe we call upon you, as you regard the ems..
try, to bike the beat and most ellicient means Gtr in I g,
succour of which she idands.in so go used- ll• Let taro
holividuels, who are . thoroughly convergent with vefisels of
tliStk
description, he inatusliately, appointed to examine the severfil
steam-vessels, and to stalk' Within what time they out begot ready
and what 'TIMIS must be employed for the purpoite. Two Pi
them, besides the Peoreverance, which is nrncre after having been
ordered more then fifteen months ago by Mr. Ellice, and which
was to litwe bton readY, according to that gentlernan's agent:ma,
last August), swirly ealnplOted, might, we Conceive, be ind4o.l
within ten days, but not if only three or four men are to lie erte-
PloYett [upon owl vessel, as wieuthe case last week. If they cast
bi• wo 4*.Aity gonviettli, well ;.if mint, let them be abandoned and
riiitilled their eneagenierilabis

made to return the money they have received. Let what now re-
mains, and what can be so obtained, be employed in the purchase
of other steam-vessels ready at once to put to sea.
In conclusion, we beg to assure you, that we do nut mean to
Call in queetion the intention with which you entered into this
affair, or to reproach you in any manner; but we cannot do
otherwise than express our deep regret that an undertaking, which
was to have insured the freedom of (Ireece, should have taken
such a turn that, Without energetic and early steps, it will, by
depriving our country of assistance, be conducive to her full.
We trust then, gentlemen, that you Will, by immediate efforts,
prevent the possibility of still more afflicting events, and we have
the honour to be, . .

• kientlemen, your very obedient servants,
(Signed) J. ORLANDO.
' - AND. LURIOTTIS. .
Now that letter showed that the Greek Deputies were

fully alive to ;the importance of the, steam-boats ; and it
also showed that which was by no means immaterial, that
Sir Francis Burdett, Mr. Hohhouse,Ellice,
and Mr. were
parties to the bargain made by Lord Cochrane with Mr.
Galloway, and that they ought therefore to have demanded
frpm him security that the vessels should be sent off by
the time appointed. He had said that the letter just read
proved that Sir F. Burdett, Mr. Hobliowie, and Mr. Ellice
were parties to the transaction with Mr. Galloway. That
there might be no dottht left upon that point, he would
read to the meeting a letter from Mr. J. C. Hubhouse in
reply to that of the deputies. It would prove first of all,
that the letter of the deputies had been received by the
parties to whom it was addressed ; and, secondly, that the
committee appointed at their last meeting had already
piodueed beneficial effects. It was dated on the 29th of
May, three days after that written by the deputies. It
was as follows :

. ' May 29.
Gentlemen,--I beg to inform you, that on Saturday last hir
Ellice and myself had a meeting with Mr. Ricardo, at which
meeting it was determined to apprise Lord Cochrane that neither
time nor the funds in Mr. Ricurdo's hands would permit of the
three smaller vessels being completed ; consequently, on the same
evening, I wrote to Lord Cochrane to that effect.
Yesterday (Sunday) I went to Deptford to inspect the steam-
boats myself, accompanied by two officers of the navy. The
result of our inspection was, that, with proper attention to the
work, the two larger steam-boats might bt, at sea in a month,
but that it would be necessary to abandon all hopes for the present
of working upon the three smaller vessels.
Having formed this opinion, we shall proceed immediately to
give the requisite orders.
We shall desire Mr. Galloway to work only on one steam boat
at, time. . . •
We shall send an officer and an inspector of machinery to reside
either at or near the dock-yard, and to report.to us daily the pro-
grow of the work.
. We shall have great pleasure in communicating these reports to
you, whenever you require to know, them.
Very truly, yours.
(Signed) J. C. 1-10BHOUSE.
To the Greek Deputies, &c. Sack Ville-street.
He trusted that the meeting would mark the repeated use
of the word we. lie apprehended that the employment
of the plural pronoun would prove to it that Sir Francis
Btirdett, Mr. Hobliouse, and Mr. Ellice bad undertaken
the fitting out of those steam-vessels, and not the depu-
ties, who had Made such strong remonstrances to them
against the delay which had occurred. It had . been said
that the :appointment of a committee could not by any
possibility produce good. Now, he thought that this as-
sertion was disproved by the letter just read to them. It
was there affirmed, on the ipso' dixit of Mr. Hobhouse, that
the three smaller vessels could not be fitted out in the pre-
sent vear. Though this committee had not been ap-
pointed till the 4th of SepteMber, lie bad now the satis-
facition to inform them that thoSe three vessels would be
sent out in oau month from the present time.—((.reat
cheering.)---If so much could be done in the interval be-
tween the last and their present meeting, why, he would
Wilt, could they not have been sent out in the interval
which hail elapsed between the 26th of May and the 4th
of ',SePtenther ?7-4.1.1e0i.)-7-Their gallant Chairman bad
said smoothing to them about the impolicy of ~ending out
a cavalry officer to America to superintend the building of
twp frigates. Ile did not think that the impolicy was
greater than intrusting the equipment of steam-boats to
members of Parliament and to dealers on the Stock-
EXchange, and if censure applied to the deputies for send-
ing out General Lallemand, it applied also to the indivi-
duals whom he had before mentioned, for undertaking that
for which either they were not qualified, or not disposed
to bestow requisite attention. Whether Sir V. Burdett
Or Mr. Hohhouse were qualified for the task which they
had voluuttirily undertaken, he would not pretend to
decide; but that they were not inclined to execute it, was
.evidentp from the fact that one had gorie_with his family
to France, 0,01 that the other to partake in the festivities
at Moscow. In the course of these proceedings great cen-
sure had been castxpon Mr. RicardO. He was happy to
say that no censure could be fairly thrown upon him, ex-
cept that of having undertaken a matter of which he neW
nothing. ji,e would now read to them another letter, It
purported to be from the Messrs. Ricardo, and had ap-
peared in the Chronicle two days after the last meeting. In
that letter were the following expressions :
i, Whatever we pledged ourselves t 4 to our subscribers on
the one head, and the representatives of the Greek Govern-
ment on the other, has been faithfully and honourably executed.
We have retained the dividend, purchased and cancelled the old
bonds, and invested the sum set apart for the sinking fund. We
hap paid over to the Deputies, or appropriated by their order,
the amount for which we stipulated, and it is now above six
mouths since we reit-4;41ml them their account current."
In that, letter, which Wgt of f:onsiderable length, and of
which he should not read any nu.erc, ip Was distinctly stated
that alp Messrs. Ricardo had paid the proPlltlii Of the loan
away by or4ier of the deputies. Now such an assertion
was a. clear proof tjmst the letter was not .written by Mr,
Ricardo, us he must at that time have had on his desk the
following letter from the Greek Poppies, written on the
'2lst of August, jot. one fortnight before t.......
TO MASSIts, 7, AND N. AWADDO.

, . August gi, 1826
Gentlemen—We beg to rieknOWledge the rreeint of your letter
of the 12th instant, inclosing an Account of ditlereot sums you
have paid from April last to the present time. We have looked
at the item* composing the account, and ar'e aatonisted to perceive
that you lutve made payments to Mr. Galloway, iu 4,iltlitiou to
what be had previously roeeived, to the amount f
7,4:00/. How
thew or the other large payments you lOW, taken open yourselves
to make can in any manner be justified, we luiniff PO- Wu cer-
tainly cannot sanction them, but, on the contrary, we feel it to be
our duty to protest against the which you have applied
the monies, which in the month of August last we requested you
to net apart far the colophtion of the arrangetueot !mule with Lord
Cochrane. You must bear in mind (what wd hove often pereon-
ally, complained of) that without our authority, and without any
previous communication to us whatever, this arrangement war sud-
denly and entirely changed by your giving, orders for building five
steam vessels, arid preparing the necessary machinery, iostead of
purchasing vessels ready fur sea. jlad we been consulted oil so
inatill 44 a departure from the origituai intention of all parties, we
should have opposed it on the ground of the delay to which it
might lead. go sot* as we were informed of the orders you hatl
we did object to theos, ayul though you lied pail'",ooo/.
"r 3,0001.1-we expressed our anxiatts doire tlutt the orders should
be ,reaci.uled. You moved us, however, that the whole of the
flotilla should its completely ready within three nvoiths at fat.--
~111e4 Aiml, we, relyiog quo your ,assuratiee, and upon the re-
trePttilitY you had contraCted by gi,ving. the orders, did not for-
!wen the t" their toting carried, into exteution, What has
„result Thee, your orders, not only renutin,inoNni-
oll.:_u_ei
_to
,u,..;:erieln'l:4;:trt
tidnaciiy, lartt: toak
tyheet notdpi a even
oeen ei:l4th the 11yr:417as ell*.
14 reAlt wy gra.
n
‘ixvirig.ioAtruuhakitlLtuy:rt:ut doitveks line applied to those gentlemen
th rough
tiwy
w,witen,rnt with, Lord Cpbrane was effected, cooceiy.
o:;,44loliceaxttlietalu'ltki
etll,,ttehher.
toinflouwe
ninceortptoh
yo,
°nye
,it cart jed into
"'ea after week, during period of six 4i4
the reotstiv
condtaithr and were as
a fortnight, one mufti leritittml, that in the succeeding week or
ost would. quickly 1,41,,,,`.44:0Uhl Nail for Greece, and eclat the
fired that the works 01014717
ha; takes.
earnestly and repeatedly de-
alsd
pineed iu hani-Js of %011ie l'akeit f"W Calloway
cotopekut •
out titt. necessity of seiliog the tbretinie '114,7,1 alte,Pgylleg
others vvidi the proceeds; but the e
n frii+stratucei We have
ix,°f uo
tarevaiatit'slutultliro'ittigi butunrtt 40.$ili'.elwehb"aed rib:o
juteriere ill the Affair/ ittld the tiny wlti
we Author**d you to

set apart for the accomplishment of this important object, you
have disposed of, not merely without applying to us on the subject,
but in opposition to our declared` sentiments. To you, therefore,
gentlemen, the responsibility attaches, end by you it may must be
borne. We will nut give our sanction to*ted monies you have so im-
providently, and, as we consideroeNtpropetly expended. You can-
not have believed—it is impossible for any one to believe—that the
delay on the part of Mr. GalloWay has been unintentional. Whe-
ther it had its 'origin in his employment for our great enemy the
Pacha of Egypt (an employment, by the bye, which was fully
known when you gave him the order), or in any other cause, or
whether any other parties have been desirous of delay we have nut
the mans of deciding; but that the procrastination lucs been the
result of design we cannot doubt.
' [The Hon. Gentleman here paused itk.the reading to,ob-
serve, that of this part Of the letter it was his pleasing
duty to say, that it was the opinion of the committee,
founded upon the inquiries which they had made, that
there was,not the slightest shadow of proof for such an im-
putation on Mr. Gallowa)q
With infinite surprise and regret we learn that, on the trial of
the .Enterprise last Wednesday, the boiler burst, and that on try-
ing the Irresistible on Thursday the machinery wholly failed, and
it is reported that it is totally uncertain when either of the vessels
will be in a fit state to put to sea. We trust that these moat mor-
tifying circumstances may not have proceeded front the same de-
sign. We have also been informed that it was your express wish
that the vessels should put to sea with their sails alone; but to this
we can scarcely attach credit. •
You express your surprise that we should require from you a
particular account of each vessel, having, as you state, so re-
peatedly explained to us bow and by whom the arrangements were
made relative to the building of the steam-boats. To whom are
we to apply if nut to you? and how are we to obtain the accounts
which it is our duty, as well as our wiab, to furnish to the Greek
Government? We merely notice the last paragraph in your let-
ter, for the purpose of informing you; that we claim as a right,
and not as an act of courtesy, a full explanation from you of all
the monies alleged to have been paid out of the funds which were
left in your hands by our authority. Whether we are any longer
authorized to act as Deputies of -the 'Provivional Government of
Greece or not, it will be necessasy for us to render an account of
the proceed. of the loan we negotiated, and for this purpose we
shall require to be furnished with every account respecting it.
How much of the monies.you.have expended without our autho-
rity you will be entitled to consider as paid, on the account of our
Government, or of ourselves, will be matter for future delibera-
tion and discussion. At present we must content ourselves with
repeating our request for the separate and detailed accounts of
rash vessel. We are, &c.
AND. I.I.JIIIOTTIS.

(Signed only by)
He then proceeded to remark upon the observations made about
the publicity given to every thing connected with these transac-
tions. It had been said in one of the prints, 'that Lord Cochrane
bad taken pet because the steam-boats had not joined hint, and
was coming home ; and in another, that he was going to take
advantage of his own mismatikement, and to desert it. Now he.
would ask, what right had LAI Cochrane to take the pet, when
Mr. Galloway had been the engineer. of his own selection ? He
would say most distinctly, that Lord Cochrane could not, nay;
(turd not, do any such. thing..-:-(Hear, Lordship had
received the money of the Greeks, and if he had been prevented
from entering into active warfare on their behalf, by the want of
skill and energy on the part of his own engineer, Mr. Galloway,
be was not entitled to set up his own fault as a justification for
withdrawing from their service. He (Mr. Robinson) would not
say that Lord Cochrane entertained any such intention, but time
would soon determine-the point, and be hoped that its determina-
tion would be to the advautage of the Greeks. The meeting had
heard from their gallant Chairman, that the committee had met in
the course of their inquiry with all kinds of impediments to prevent
them from coming to the truth. In that observation he fully agreed,
and he must say, that one instance 'of obstinacy had come from a
quarter where it was most of all incumbent that it should not
be exhibited. He was now; alluding to, the• Greek deputy Spani-
olachi, and he did.. so with the .less reluctance, because he now
Raw that individual present. It was only fair to expect that he
who had been sent to supersede the late deputies Orlando and
Luriottis, should be anxious to lend his services to the bondhold-
ers in eliciting the troth—it was only fair to expect that he should
be anxious to uphold his own credit and that of his Government.
They would, perhaps, ask what had been the conduct of ?elr
Spaniolachi ? liie bad lent himself most zealously to the investi-
gation of his preilocessor!s accounts; but as ,wen► as his own ac-
counts and those or his friends were brought hi question, he closvd
the door to all investigation.. No refused to recognize the com-
mittee ; and in refusing to recognize the committee, he refused to
recognize the bondholders who had appointed it, and who had lent
two millions to his countrymen. ' This was a painful truth, but
he dtemed it right that the .bondholders and the Greek Govern-

meat should be made acquainted with it. They might not, per-
haps, be aware, that the authorities in Greece were quite igno-'
rant of every thing that related to these steam-boats. The proof
wan to be found iu the fact, that a commission was coming from
Greece, authorizing Sir Francis Burdett, Mr. Spaniolachi, and
Mr. Ricardo, to investigate all the transactions eonnected with
these loans. Messrs. Ricardit, Spaniolachi, and Sir F. Burdett,
audit their own accounts !—.-(Load eheeri.)---In the whole his-
tory of mercantile transactions, never was any thing so absurd
thought or dreamt of. Such a proceeding proved as clearly as
the closest mathematical demonstration 'could do, that what was
passing in England was not known in' Greece and evinced the
necessity of another deputation being sent from that country to
this island, to inquire into the negociations of those which had
preceded it. That Greece might owe much to the exertions of
Sir F. Burdett, Mr. Ifobhouse, 'and Mr. Ricardo, he was not

prepared.to deny, though what bad occasioned its debt of grati-
tude he must own his inability to discover. It appeared to him,
that if Greece had any set of minim more formidable than
another, it consisted of those professitig friends who under.
took to fit out urrnainents for ith defence, and then wantonly
neglected the duty which they bad thoughtlessly undertaken.
Having said thus much about the manifest absurdities which
had been comm►tted hi preparing tlw steam-boats, he would
now only remark, that no absurdity could be greater than
that of sending a cavalry, officer to superintend the building
of frigates, except it were that of sending out a sailor to
mount and equip ►t regiment of dragouns.—(A laugh.)—lt
appeared as if there were a great predilection for cavalry officers in
some quarter connected with the management of these loans.—
,Gsueral Lallernand was not the only cavalry officer tai whom-they
had given employment, There was the brother of the noble of',
fiver to whom the command of the naval armament had been en•.
trusted, and he would only wish that the gallant Major to whom
he alluded might have the saute devotedness to Greece which
believed Was felt by his noble brother.;---(Cheers.)—Without
sistance to Orem, it was quite clear that Greece, as at present
censittined, could not defend itself. In conclusion, he said that
be could only regret that On tntieting NA- not sufficient infornm.
Lion before it to warrant it in Pinning to some definite resolution;
fhr such a resolution,
.if favourable to the Greek GoyernmePt,
would he of the ntinoet utility, since nothing tended more td the
security of the lender than tt wrivietion of th° me"
speetability of the borrower,

"Ur. 41;41,7 after eulogizing the conduct of the Greek Com•
mime, proceeded to ask, whether e-quantity of European muskets
had trot been Aired fin the service of the Greeks, and rejected by
the Deputies on account of the prejudices which prevailed in
teen in tilniefaZ:ruttna6nf itiabturelanin,Ctha4tll;a:ritii7eiibtption?tvp'floireytillrit .preecuerindtolyr
had kept in check fur a long time it large body of 'furls who
were ready to attack a Greek detachment much inferior in titriu..
berg. If that statcanent were corivet, what con"9""`"' might
they not,y4p#ct-frorn Rodin hi Greece a train of larger a r trium
When theiie questions were answered, lie would -next ask how the
Grgek GOintfottient wee at present constituted ? Was the Govern-
me*t.,representative ? If so, how was it represented?, How were
th‘irepresentatives chosen? And what security was there that the
capital of the butullialers would he repaid
serrations; and first; with regard to the 80tetPen$ that the corn..
.pinc)iliul.tiilyieliti%reri.v.l4lt'ierlool:oB4l4y;getiwprii:::'4etratiaca;tifinroPir44:vuiliele;niPPetithreiPiii"cil:tEhfl;flittfri:airrEauplthw'irgraii,:efa:i(inic.petsi.bes,:t.vv44l:7oll::.itib°oll,::uii:ts
to bit, mind, that to oLtaht the Illearitl, they were sacrificing the
sails, In would out hesitate to modify his general principle. A
question had been iwk4l, 'affecting the conduct of Mr. Hume, and;
ae it had he'll "oar he \mod take the opportunity, of tteciarjug.
Matt the Greek coin/ Mite, were coometed with the that Greek.
They had no coritroul over that loan after it was con-
atrode.tteo4—thetlt'rerYtireytlfl:ii•antai:l‘:lrrethdr'teheiirlainYtillinintailt;*°l 'tlihettr 470e'llk body;
inittee hail no knowledge
malt narl The same gentleman was. tight in supporiing
of the fact to which the Hon. Gentle.
that tbe Greek committee lied ant to 01'4'44 tianfinn and unts-
ketty, and every thing chiefsthe military committee thought
most negealiall to its defence,- and be behaved that that ex.
pedition was w.ll adapted to the purpose for which it was de.
pioerl, it bad landed in (treee,6,-11 dotio ,sorire service--
indeed he had receiyed a letter from Colonel 'Fativier, stating that
it hilthe late attack on Negropont ; but though
suclitie
wta Leon of
use
inlie could nut conceal from the :meeting that it
had not been well received by the Oreeks. The arsenal had in
eopequegge been brukeu ugrt the VtatiC4 41414 discoed it puttiviu6

letoolves to be exposed to great danger. A question bad been

put to him as to the manner in which the Greek. Government was
constituted; and here he must observe that it had never yet been
in a situation to give adequate security to the public. Its powers

lad vibrated from one faction to another, and 1;o effectual dovern-

meat had yet existed._ The present administration was made up of a

greater variety .of parties than any of its predecessors. Many of them
were capitani or military leaders, many of them primates or hereditary
aristocrats, and many of them islanders who formed a third class
distinct front both. Now if he were asked whether be would trust
that Government with money, free from control, he would say most
assuredly not in the interest of England. With *spiel to the
security that might be afforded by Grecian landed
.property, he
was aware that purchasers could be foundilor those lands, and
that the money might be applied for the payment of bondholders.

Mr. Curcuesree said, that it was a matter to be regretted,
that in this metropolis, of whose boasted liberality they had heard
so much, a commercial house should be found not ashamed to
take, in the way of commission, a sum of 64,0001. from a com-
paratively small loan raised for a state, endeavouring by the
most heroic efforts to break the fetters imposed on them by the
most appalling despotism.
Colonel Joss bad not the,pleasure of knowing the gentleman
who bad just addressed the meeting, but he must take him to be
a man of great inexperience to make such a charge on the Greek,
Committee as that which the meeting had just heard. The Com-.
mittee had to struggle with many difficulties and unforeseen events,
such as the death of Byron, and other circumstances. With
these disadvantages they had sent out of the original loan, in rm.'
ney, stores, artillery, and a laboratory (for they had persons of
different tastes and opinions to consult), the sum of 817,6061.
lbs. 9d. That this had not the intended effect, he would
admit, and indeed it could not be expected that the same good
use could have been made of them as if they had been sent to
a regular Government. The Greeks were not accustomed to
that orderly mode of proceeding with which we are acquainted.
With regard to the second loan, it was taken up by stock-brokers,
for people at the time, as if they did not know what to do with
their money, rushed forward to embark it in some public specu-
lation. Mr. Ricardo was aware of. this, and he thought he had
as good a right to make money as another. He did not blame
him for this. He dared to say he was a 'very good man, and an
excellent stock-broker." He had no objection to him on this
ground, and would be disposed to employ him in his way as a
broker, but he was a man'of 'no Mind, or with any one•quality
which could enable him to act as it statesman or a politician. lie
had no objection to stock-brekers, but when they expected to see
stock-brokers acting in the way of their, business from patriotism
or public spirit, by G....d they might as.well pursue a phantom.
(Hear, and laughter.) He had before said, that Sir F. 'Burdett
and Messrs. nobhouse and Ellice were unfit for the duty imposed
on them of managing the Greek affairs here. He was intimately
acquainted ' with Sir F. Brirdett ;
he had fought by his aide
'filmy a time at elections, and he hoped be should do so agaiu.
Mr. Hubbouse he had known from'a boy at school, and he was in
the constant habit of moving in the same circle with Mr. Ellice.
With all of them he was in terms of friendship, but with the best
feeling he must say that they were the most until men in the world
knew that he had kept important letters in his pocket for seven
off
fr the emme
ns,kwwaah which
th aadmbaeenno
f imposedn
business ;
i theist.
kn
wS ihr
wellß u daeltlt,
d
mouths • unopened. He would admit that on great public discus-
sions 'Air F. Burdett was a very able and useful man, and so
were the other gentlemen he had named ; but on that to which
he had alluded, they Were not the proper men to be chosen ; and
be' was sorry to find Sir Francis Burdett in the new Greek com-
mission. Indeed, this unfitness for application to business of
accounts was the fault of the system of education adopted in our
public schools—a system which, he was glad to find, would be
likely to find a remedy in the establishment. of the new univer-
sity that had lately been so zealously taken up by the public. As
to giving publicity to all the proceedings of the committee,-he was
as friendly to it as any man could be.
Colonel L. STANNOPY differed from Mr. Robinson ai to the
nature of the objects for which the committee was appointed. He
contended that its first object was to promote the interests of
.Greece, then those of the bondholders ; and, last of all, to attach
blame to those whom they might think deserved it. With regard
to the controul which wax to be exercised by Sir F. Burdett, Mr:
Hobbouse, and Mr. Ellice, ho wished it to be understood, that
the only confront which they had undertaken. over the 160,00014
which had been set aside for the naval armament, was, that it
should be employed in fitting it out. The blame which he con-
ceived attacheet to those gentlemen was this—that they had patron-
ised eertain new experiments in the formation of steam-boats.
Thu gallant Officer then proceeded to show that the Greek depu-
ties had had nothing to do with the equipment of the steanz-vee-
sels, and to contend that all the measures which Messrs. Orlando
and Luriottis had taken respecting them ' were much to their
credit, and to the interest of the Government of WhiCh they were
the agents. The blame, however, of the non-equipment of the
frigates rested with the deputies, and with them alone. In allu-
sion to the observations which Mr. Robinson had triode about Mr.
Spaniolachi's refusal to recognize the committee, he remarked that
it was true that Mr. Spaniolachi had, in a moment of irritation,
been guilty of such a refusal ; but then Mr. Robinson,
if he had mat with the committee till it had closed its in-
quiries, would have found that Mr. Spaniolaelii had afterwards
repented, and had furnished every 'information in his poWer.
As to the questions which had been put to him (Colonel Stan-
hope) with regard to the guns sent out to. Greece, he, would reply
that some of them bad been found useful at Militiolonibi, and that
others of them had been sent to the different Capitani.
however, was not so essential to the undisciplined force; of the
Greeks in the field as it was to them in the fortress. Indeed, it
was often a positive injury to them, as it led them to rest every
thing on the fate of a pitched battle, for which they were not so
well'qualified as for irregular warfare.

Liz entered into a defence of the conduct of M. Luriottis,
on whom be thought many severe reflections haft been cut very
uudeseryedly. In conclusion he informed the meeting that at
.a
proper season 111. Luriottis would lay before the public every dn.
(=ant connected with his case.
Colonel STANHOPF. WM then proceeding to put his resolutions,
when

. . . .. ~
A Shareholder, said, that it appeared to him, that the meet-
ing was losing sight of the proper objects to which it ought to
attend. The lulu question on which he thought the Meeting
'ought to express an opinion was this ::--la the report satisfactory ?
—lle thought that it was not. He did not come forward to cri-
minate any person, or to enter into any inquiry as to the naval
armatneut. With such points he had nothing to do,—he only
wanted to know how the accounts really stood between the bond-
holders and the Greek. Government.
The question on' the suggestion of the last speaker, was then
put, as to whether the report should be received or not. Some
doubt arising as to whether the reception of the report would
amount to an approval of it on the part of the fleeting.
Mr. W. Cr.sue had no objection to receive the report, if. by
so doing he was not pledged to sanction it. He thought that it
would be better to adjourn the meeting to another day, in order to
t give the bondhOldera time to consider and examine into its state-
merits. It appeared to him there were two parties in this business
I —Ole original committee, of whom some had withdrawn, as was
tumidly the case when the project assumed a losing appearance, and
the subsequent committee-formed tá investigate its proceedings,
which contained several members, who were not themselves deemed
' altogether free from Marne. There was ono observation made by
Mr. llowring, to which he could not refrain from calling the at-
tention of the meeting. Ile had stated thatench was the instability ,
of the Greek Government, so often had the hands in whichit was in-
vested been changed, that there was no security for any contract that 1
might be made with' it. Now he wished to ask Mr. Bow-
ring and the Greek ComMittee,
quainted with that fact? If they had long been acquainted
with it, then the. tirade, which they bad directed against
bond-holders
irhaiv,ied,tiiey were now placed.
the' contractors
11 the had kept till that
for it they did let out the secret, wlO- Y _
being.
ought rather to b it: ewd
i.r.eleotcgl againstthey
saved 'tile
o;olioni_itnu_gartinwtn:lot:liilison as to whether Mr. Itieardo's
day, they would have prevented the money from raises
Illrtol'uli'thaenddebspyers6ate
;:elii'lingwas usual or not. He wished,
He did not mean
_tud.lll2cagenoyt
tII') re rl s"a nns, and
dd of
rlo It- per
pa r t cent.i
e iuet oe
ini
wlould be' found .to 'he
tclhingtiemorfiri6ss4loion9,
however} to Inoiv.
per cent. commis-
participated in
/lion. He had beelurt,
_upon than the Stock
gallantl might
withit,
end Mhr.e Ricardo 4
4 eyed :in.
i:a. tilflioeniert,:u.'6l:ll)oee4rinisa°tih;d:agitiu•
some
hrayialn:tdesalilic.uirstiesluo .
the ease. I
haNtle found sonic
i 600 '
swag tae I, members of that corporation there
theme is' dee.laim'
liftmen , men of capital, wealtl , power in-
were ulembe".te end ability. Ay, of as much ability'. '
as was to
&lett", ,in,hlL/iiirefession. Yes 'that
, even to profession of
he Put" 'll -' ' diati ' hod
t pent Colonel was so ngule an ornament.
the;gl
conversation here ensued, whether the report should he
A abort t ,
. i or whether the murmur's reeolutions should have preee-
printo I
denre. At -length
E i;0 , a
vg,o . nAeivo,:rbeci.:catrei.ro. t
Air, Mauve suggested, that as the report would ootain great
publicity through the daily papers, it would be better to wait fur
a short time to ascertain he effect, arel meet in about a fortnight
lienlm to consider what further steps should be adapted.:
This suggestion was approved, and the meeting broke up, but
without Laming auk' day fur again aaitendAiug,