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Marquis then Arent into an euunieration of the and which het denominates a just. and wise Measure-. • for r.s the Utmost love rtnil
objehts which . the ' British. Gevertiment then had. On alas -changed opinion in Ministers he must con_ the tesult migipt be, the 1.1;,e 9: condll'.4 Pm ,
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veneration. 717ters
in view, and which it. was •so -inx oes to iiccont- gratinele the country ;he must congratu:ate 'Millis- getierous and wise. While a hope rfnail r!,oriali_ .
plise, ' 'First, we ware to'ileff.”). d !li-, PortuveSe ler- ters themselves. ' But the allusion to that dispatch ouelit not to withhold our assi,tane from a,, I„
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ritory ; se.crandly, if that ei•.ere ,unite inapraetieable, was .most unliappyFrance was then otherwise 'oc- pee& who- had ever been, friendly tai is, ~,,,,Nt,
bi.
We Were to aletend the Portuguetie Colonies ; and, cuered—the state of -Europe_ was then tar different— had displayed, so much public !Tait- 'l:'-'e
..sav,
lestly, if tio other resoOrce ere ieti, we were AO bute..what is to impede heh now in the conquest Loiel concluded by declaring that itistiee,gcee: , t.:....,
save the fleet in the Tagus, and tavOur the emigras of..portosal t Where is the hope that :toy as- and policy, alike called oa tuem to slppori tire 4.,
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ttota of elle Porrugnerse Court to tae Brazils ; all.. siganee_te.her natareauccessful.? -The. Noble Lord-- 'dress. - - ' ---- " ' •An't is:l
these-etrorts-were-11,3de, not only -eelliepranciples then reverted to the'confosion diet marked all the Lord MOIRA maintain mre7.
ed his • form:
the 'old alliance, 'hut else with a ve' to -.as.. a•-:• '
meitatfmeasures of Ministers; •the landing of an, opposition. to teat, et the Noble Secretary tat 5.',:e,3e..,..e'-'.
she . Spain-; and have ue • now reason to., regret arm.), at' Coranna, the alipointuleut of tliree'difieret-it 'The affairs-of the peeinsula, had beell neglected,
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them:? 'IS 4 it now to be silted' that me cctuider . Generals to one 'army in less than 24 hours, the mi.. had beet' made a se.cundary •objeset. Heehen
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their cereae as hdpeless; and that ‘‘' tbllsl wick- suable eonaeritian of Cintra that followed, the loss a general view of the oaerations •in Spero, vv,oa:„.
draw' all antistaece . -fetch thrill ? Are we to of tioho men under General Moere, and the lOss:of -he censured in stron.,
alienatedhem even from the defence of their own six ehoesatad more nutlet LOrd ..Welliagten- Were • tail-led-coo:ern .nsurate to the hazard and expeee 0
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•entisk: ? Are their Lordships prepared to say, that such men to be still intrusted with • power in and ctirred. 'roe fore: with wliiith outs ,A' r_ to c
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a terms.. N: thieg had beeig
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all that has been done ought not to have been (:one, 'were they threw' to be allowed to abuse it, hi- risking rase were not such as.conld.be depended ui,011...;1:ii t
and theyeehglit not now to concur with his Majesty the sacrifice of a whole army in Portugal ? TA-3S such plan •of defending Poring :he Allatigt. Preta.a'ia
en eontinuiug, to afford aid to Portugal ?He was gross misconduhl and incapacity to he -endured ? , with danger andncerrain disgrace. , Li.; thee atm; ..,, ..
rer:dy to admit all the disasters that had lately cre- If fresh proofs:- were- et ainitte of this misconduet end veiled with severhy on the adions -of Mini st,
ofe a..a.
cuffed. No person could view them with deeper • incapacity, they would.kre found 'in •the-correepon- 1 the evils they brought on. the country
concern ; tint still- he was far front eluting into deoce now on. the tableneihy -which it wirald aepear, than•the Egyptian plagues of the tocustsethe tr..Ce!
despair, ',ind said- eothing could be less pohtic or just that so late as the 22d New-ember last, the British •or the lice. There were no hope's remaiiiinglan
al'at
than uudcr ,such circumstances, to intimate an in- Government were.whotly ignorant of what had been . ealvatioh of the country' if the present Grasera
_}`i3e
tetetion of ab inc-mit% Portugal, and' of withholding done to organize the Portuguese troops, or how far ' continued. He-concluded, sleet-ring --Sriseintent
,aa,
our te:- ep, What etteet could such a conducta h'elWo they had been brought,to anat. sate- of discipline.— of • toting for the iteneirelment, on
„the t;-1 s'
bet to make Portugel relax in her efferts, by. teliiegn, N.
.:et these are the troops that are to be taken into of its afthrding a prospeet -of a full intrestigotio• en
her that she must submit, ,that her thaw saaseome, British pa a-ad on n hose co.operation 'a British ',' the Sihole of. the citcurnsianees. - ern' •
that fen her feilist.ance must be fruitisss ? If snub—were wo
slimy of thirty thousand men is i o deparel ag dust t!,e -Lord;. SID3toUTH Was. of opinion that Gov -
had-beets-our wish or Intention, coula. we better-fors. overwhelming
-waid* the views-of the enemy than by rehtnting meth numbers of the French arinle4i, He r-mens. had neglected to avail themselves of the fa
velm
ale'
; must intreat their Lordships to intarpose, betore it able oopertuirity for- striking a decisive blowe ees
a conduet ? ' Was it nut strewing Wili Ityvvets the be too late, and check this blind ca:eer. of Ministers, - should feel muco ;eruct-once at withdrawing-our -
: task
and
way of the 'Usiurper and accelerating the submission - otherwise the -guilt of what may 'happen - must . cours from Portugal, if• wahoot too grata lise
(ice
of an .ancient ally to the .most degrading sand op- - fall upon themselves. They should partieularly • havoc.we could assist-her with any ,prenaeal of 5.,,-.
, ptcssive,yoke 7 Was it toe this that
.eo much of pause at-the present moment before the', gate their ; cese. • Her long at.tacranent to this country, the s'i',',..
our blood and treasure had :41r-early been expended,
and so rnnels of the bleed of our allies ? Was such aeuetion_ to. the tatal_systen._which Ministers:seemed.' ceriry of which had been so forcibly. evinced at_ar',',,_
determined to,aursee. . ft, shotild now. give them ' ferent period;, which he instanced most. particalaill ~.
tlieli,te to which those resolute and loyal nations en opportunity •of dielaieng the -r sense of the Con'. iii l'lbe, that we ohght to feel it it:tumbrel's. of 41
*ere to. be (inhaled.? They, were doomed to it by dust of
the vitas •of other -9overnkpents ; that was his de- 'Government by moving, that the whole of 'us to afford her every as.astariee in our poWe'--,:.
the proposed. address he. lets oet after the.'hiord He was unwillieg to accede to the areendrite
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tided opiniou. It Was the weakness And the wretch-. ; .. that .
editesa of the Spanish Government title open ' for the purpose of inserting ati anirndliivnt :hi thougetit teduld See en up just, &tole Nei3O 1
yam
to the following rifetl, viz. that an humble Ad•lress Otlitiraw out. troops befOre such' a measure trecai.,:,
the breath which admitted the enemy into their be presented to his IMajese!.y, thanking lii3 Maje Sty • aosblutely. necesS4ry. LiP 110 .‘3,,,r thougot t.IT ..
country, and which -delivered- over the Spiels!' peo for his gracious•comtnuttecai ion, and for.the 4pairers nught to he well informed as to
-th ,_. c...i.operatn.tbe.,
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pie into the bands of tee most cruel opoieseors, that had beerelaid.oefererhe House, arid-assuringhis- . they se., re to expect orx"'tite- part et ern: P
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Let us not also desert and betray otir alhes. • Let us noesty that in the present difficult and alarming, Goveruinent shottld be careful a nyt. tu fOd_J lt! •
nut relaxffo soc the erts of Portugal' by withdrawing the state of affairs that H w onae ont& take ' them into their -I wiig- hi -Of -thelieii reeli- already norare b'y •
.the' lPe°P ''-7x
Britis•l troops. If such a step be taken prenia- most se-rious consideration, ant' to, lighten toe peseta' As socTh
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turely, we defeat every object: for which assistance The Earl of "LIVERPOOL thought the teniamentS ! n tend not withhold. his coo et te the address. ..
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has beetr hitherto afforded them. - The Noble Mar- hof the Roble Leed wno had just sat down . were Yhe thougiet his conduCt- b)411 Plifiliin)leiily .. ,
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quis.conclucied with observing, that he shouid be likely to
be mre common o incurious to the : Caine : Consiitutieoalew e d
hen heerared?ilate je giviinOr Do,
ready to tarnish-spy further information that might : than an-
y line of con 1‘
elutt his .14aaty's Ministers assent, he threw the whole of the relanhieatty al
besequired, and then moved an bumble address to could pursue. Nothieg could be more final to the his Alttjesty's Minister.S. . .. . r
Isis M•eieety, assuring his Majesty of , the cheerful interests and tutheehonourot the country- than the 1 bard_ Ls esne.„.„ . deerting to what had. fellers , 4
concurrence of that House in his Majesty's .6,saat. ito the con u
system he appeared to' wash ten see 'adopted byaaan- '. --- ' '!' "' • -n et Of :!..
from the'last Speaker. relanne .
ahicieue Message. ' ••• doning our ally: That evidently Was the object of ' p l • ha
Lord Gaastiethez rose in reply. Nothing but his speech. He would not have dwelt -so long on ertuga an], 2,.- wh, la .
ti. 3 at ,sit pt-firldi.:
a strong sense of ditty compelled him- to. express the desperate state of Fortogal, it that heti not.been n fairs was as favourablh•for Enprn 1
.ctence,
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ilte Government ot diet day ear. pie a 7
nhat he felt on the present occasion. b. was an '
his intention. What else could he possibly Mean-? ' city. The prestnegirosters sheeted.
. .• -I el to Goal the situatiott of ate
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ui,grate ul task to recall to their Lordships' re-, What but to induce his .M.ijests'sl\a,ihisters to fie- •,
(,I°,l";aiictla e.': them; as the feeble • 6,,,,,reeeet ht.
dS much 0.1.
COilei7tion the many sad predictions he had utter scf; sera the cause in winch they were embarked, by '
-: Louis the Fitteentee uid from the present govern-
predictions w!,ich were desnised at the time, but labouring ro eache dismay ?"
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which save since been most e•nfortunately. realised ; of things, and under all the cirrneuttnshetallarCesesti. Of.l s.itahlee
ungrateful also did he feel tee tisk of note anti- liar, he thought policy and honouree. ould alike justi- -wee" proceedings
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;ourneenot of France. It was neve! good poliey to aPP,
on a for her period eract regtlbtW ~
cipating tresh misfortunes from the experience of nfy their Lordships in Votinefor the address. When our -wee" eygeographicat'maiiins Whigh. cirnewn_.:
: stances were changed Vrere- they, afteteelieserte
past oises.ers ; but a. the saint time he feleseine . certain .papere coune&ed with the sulajeanl were i :they. had, oto exeose gib° -•
, latichory expereence • agai . ...
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aatistahlion in performitig this duty, because lie moved for eome clittieulties opposed their -production.
• army to new disasters, while' yet woutning ..•
would not now dwell is it li Darren cecsure on the past, , He rejeice'd treat those difficulties were now • dohe -
but calf upon their Lordships to Interpose and pros .away, that his Majasty's Ministerainiehejo• !‘
.ste y the • of
19,00 n already lost? Were
vent the repetition of similar calamities for the tu- ! line of rlioy they had adopted. ' The Noble Lord - bei• meal's.
end who now uo ~r,
cure.. l-le had 'tow to plead before that House the 1 hao-spokenul the *ellen '' II d ' 1 ' ' ' l''
ee t tat ta taken p ace, in Lis 1
waatee. .the Colmar, . . .
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the coantry to be entiusitteedvetorl-14;1111eins'ge r\eas:::cls...'
cause of the British Army, and he earthd ask their ' opihion as to tee system ptoper to be adhered to as-
Lordellips if secy. were dtspused again to lavish un-' circumstances had varied. His 0 inioo was fi ed. policy to become,. priocipaia ilea cern i .1 Sva7l...
• tasted for renewed confidences 1. It wasclaiel:tTis 13'S:
profitably theblood of our hrive saidters; who on all Under the resent circutestatfces it Isv) d out not be just - as, ' . .
I Pornagal Ihe army e ith which we ~ wet._
occasions appears() prompt lor,every service, se lavish .or politic tb excite certain Powers to ressi•th torte sent to . ' ti d
. sheuld be it r.ri ploposed force sa,;
ot to ee _cpended upon, ',la,*
eince, exor turn as at now is, but froth-those to coeoperate was n
of their blood aed lives? What return was doe to of- F • is • ' " State 'laid said " every ti;il4, •
them for all the discipline they have displayed; all ' Posters Spain amid Portugal ought to be exce teal.-- Noble:, ecretary. 615
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creel a , had-
the triumphs they have achieved ? Is it not the The risiog -of the rest* in the former coutiptry was '
least they have to expett from Parliament that they the first general rising of an- armed population against been.said by. certain philosophers, that
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)_ life
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'must have .a. beginhing. He rehaeo
rert_te, Of
wilt interpose between them -arid .the folly of Mie the aggressions of France that had been seen The a foolish man is ewer, beginning.. r
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Milers, and take care that not one moreille shall' French had before conquered 'natious whet; Irt miler remark might be made onGo% enure°, ... .-E,aas
a ee - 'GOA'ernmetil ot Po rurral; it ini,rlit he .slid, was al" NA ~
be saerificeds not one more drop of blood be shed,l and well- disCiplined armies were opposed to them a • •--' d • ' - 'i • •
where no advaotage can, arise from such sacrifices to but, with a few partial exceptions, the'great body of ".beginninge an the same hung frightiih
with equal propriety. of the English'
Portugal or to Spam or now indeed to any part of
, .tt e people were neuter in- rat; l) tountre, - The ali- . - - . ' • ' - 808, 1 '
• The-Portuguese! army was," beginning :in 1
the wore(' ?—lt was no doubt an agreeable theme peararice of an ,armed population in opposition to • io 181 _
was also " beginnine in 1809, aO6I.IIPYI' ~6t •
to tile mind of his Noble, Friend to pursue all those the views of France, in one of the Most ex- they still hend of its " be' ' • " Verith resin).- •
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visionary dreams which miahe.yet crown •the exer- ' 'tensive countries in 'Europe, was an object well ' ' ginning. fear the
Lions. of our 'allies ; but he felt it an imperiohs duty worthy of our attention, and which it %yea neees- to -the ardent in the cause, and the Iche
tit Englialt which lists: heart spokett of, where. ~.ere I' i
to ask this question, whether, there existed any man snry td eneoureee and heighten, irkaasossibie. SW:11
find them, wheoe after that. hsette, ii; 010g-
rifter the battle of V.micra ? Did Lord Weahnes.
in that House who would stand, up , and .tonsci- an eveni mi hiwell he considered as likely to be• , fq.L11,.. -
'niati remained in the kingdom, yet he,* thet•igs"t„a entiously say. that he believed Portugal could still productive' ofgn the greatest advantage to our cease,-
be saved, even by the sacrifice of the 'whole of as the country in which it fist made-its appearance '
the British army in that country ? Let hint. hear boasted a considerable petition of military strength. force -was most toe
kit in Spaine,....e_
the man acknowledge such to be his belief, And The question was then, what quarter could our sue- it necessary to keep a force:of 10,000 men tt,`l7,; tog •
then be would take the measure of his wisdien and cours be directed to with the best prospects .of suc- keep the Portuguese in contrast! ? Cnutua lasi'
abilities. The defence of Portugal always appear- cess ? The step taken on that occasion, much as it proved fiom the events- of the last year, .list it aoe
bad not been taken ,
oft to ,him pent° impossible; it must now be as- had been.censured, had the etTeCt of expelling the increased sine/ that year ? it sO, how wls "...sae
setae:leo by all men that it is proved to be impossi- enemy freest Portugal. But that operation was cen- , not one of that force on which we were noli "aease
110se and
such
we
hie. We should now look, to all the resins that sere& because the !French army rend for co-operation, endeavoured to aid the c-6500.
have already been so unprofitably made in this cause,l or destroyed. The French army was not in so bad in the last campaign in Spain ? It, had beegefas
and to all toe efforts that yet remain to be made by a situation, as was. imagined. They had' not nes_ the breach which the French found ill lh° Sit of
the country for her own OCfence. -Is then no less. girded to secnre e -retreat, and what would have Morena, was ,hrough the " vile Gevernate? the
thine a minion of money, a tenth of thatetax that is -been our situation, if after rejecting the terms of- Spain." Were there zo similar breaches la_vere
so hardly wrung from the pockets of the people, to fered, we had beeh enable .to reduce them to nu- Portuguese affairs ? After our recent and sfetv,
be now • laviseed away without the slightest hope of .cerrehtional' submission, and, having wasted- our 'lasses, it was a question it humanity, policy, s."reprie
its being pr.4ltithe of any success ; expended for a force in- unavailing efforts, we had at last found and fotureeXiStence would just Such an aPP•dared
peopleaurreble or unwilling to defend themselvos, or . ours Ives unable to' expel than? 'With Testae& to 'ation of, our army, when not, a single MinistiLatoy
for at -to% tam hasetnigrated frOtn oisctruntry, and .the chaegeS made -against his Majesty's
.Minisiers, to say he thought the Measure would be till,Te;es et
whn did not think it capable of defence or worth . for--nut having animated 1 heir allies sufficiently-to fight crowned with success. After our recent to;
our.
defeoding ; „ expended' in vain efforts to animate what their own battles, .he could positively state, that no 'Walchere we , ought net again to expose least'
la dead, or g-14: energy to torpor and inaticon ) But exertions had been wanting on the part of Govern- selves to the effetts of a sYstem so ruinous, -o.opel,
the sacrifice of the money, however unable we are , meat to• rouse them to wsense of their danger. 'lt ' without. deeply refleCting, and baling' Prot'
the
to spare it, is the least evil. The great extischief is had been said that Portugal could not be defended, information on the subjett, instead of asete .
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the atteopt to continue to defend Pe:toga!, and that Every exertion, he couht take upon- himself to state, which .hid been uniformly lavished to deceice*.on A
by Portuguese hoops assisted by British so.diers. had been made by:the Portuguese Governtrenvto 'Lord -HeItROWEY considered the oPPusiti Mi.
Into winittlanvoss may not our army be len ? What establish a regrettable military force, and with the the last Speaker as ratheres,
levelled egaitist, mi,
reli 'ace can they have in the cu-operation of raw greatest suciess. ' This description of.torce had been' nisters than against measures. If he Wl'4ll°3ll fa
ireauAs iof men who have hever seen an enemy, spoken-lightly ot. Ii cetainly could net be so good ' -ntsters out of their places, 'why did Ile, rg,t',catheir
who . have n. ver been Muted to. the hihifs of as that composed .of seterans who had seen a real ' their. dismissal, rather than attempt. tQ tie i a il" •
war? Can it be expected 'hat such* levies can stand deal (desert ice, still, however, it• might prove to be hands while in office, .With-respedaesPertnea
in a line, against Fiend) troops or with- a British substantially good._ Every. thin!, must.have a begin- it was intended to abandon her to her fate, it wiet:r.v.
army . Tea tea is most absurd. He was- surprise& • ing, and of sech a force, whet) lead on by British Ott- be better to give her notice et once of
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cil to:
itn,l sorry that its N' liven 4 shot.id h ve,de,cend-' ter-, he could entertain considerable hopes, They tension, that she might know on. what, .she. 1:2; 0
ed to the patty ast.lice poached every day sty his . must either vote to Address, • '
, ~ .:-.eY depend, the best terms. she courick '.‘, -:t
-- - -- - - e or solicit the; .h.ong to ' • -4,-h au '

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culleitaues, .61 defending their own conduct, by. ob- ' abandon nis ally. The Noble Lord had spoken as it in
serving th.t a simildr line of coudat had been pur- war no risks ..ere to bc run. The risks must ever,
sued by their adierraires. Was it with this view be great in proportion to- the object. If ..our lasses
that the N:,bt Marquis. quoted the two tiarnes tha.t been s, vere it nut -s that 'we had
which be introduced into the debate 1 Surely he gained nctintig. We Thad gained the affeahms'of a
shouiri have known that there w. no simitiftide be- whole people. In Portuwal.the Bi lash. name' was
tween the two castg ; t wtten Portugal • sob' and more- respected than ever it bad been in the annals of
P.,rttig.il Ai 810. V.That,! it t,ortlt.lllov; seen, tint ! hisq4y. Our army had been weld
condutt of ti,e Administration of i 806 was eery 14iog requisite by the people. Ali eiasses
not now to be taken as a model: •that AAltninisira- been alike anxiou4 to siiceotir them. of
non, whose illeaStlleS the present Mini>ti-rs euntinti7 Spain lead reposed in us the Olost unreservTacoilti.
ally cen%ined and accused, and no me.'snie mom deuce; bey hldslitTn'lL,xinns retncn,L.'ve:y ob.
train that alluded to by the NobleSeen:::iry of Sate, stack: of wltidv we suigiu v4'14113111, ancll24 evul;;,,(i

the enemy. pur 'sacrifices, he contendeu,
least afforded our 'ailidi 'a heiter chance 1113 q
they
could otherwise bare bad, in the ,utiequal, strlig;N'
and if through want of talent on tit, it pail ill 1'4,,
.C, bunt, or valour ;n tae field, the (most: ,Wkislu-::t
England was not to tie, hlawed. thilatutitc,tb',
had been uttrvd, %%ere, ho thought, ,tilikiendrild
futeds-.--d:he valonr 'dispjayed by our, -troops
raised olroAtional Chaladeras the more reccnt
viztories, were, we higher. ,A ," stood to the olio))
Lion of Europe, and the ouf•rnieriu,;
security. ' Tie Noble Lord theh notii.ed the iv(';l),Vc;
sksteticies ooserval)le "Abe speeches. of Arose
't'
Ittini4'ers. Whatever our JoiEes 11?1: