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London, England, 1845-03-17 00:00:00

DEODANDS BILL.

On the motion of
Lord CAMPBELL, the House went into Committee
on the Deodands

The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH said, that this was
a very snort Bill—that there was one part of it which
he thought might be spared. There were two reasons
given for one effect ; and that he thought one of these
portions might, wilh advantage be omitted from the Bill.
He thought the fewer words that were introduced into
an Act of Parliament provided they were sufficiently
intelligible, the bgter.
Lerd CAMPBELL said that he was prepared to re-
ceive whatever might fall frcm the Noble Earl with the
utmost respect, but in this instance he thought he was
mistaken. His object had been to make the Bill as
short as possible—indeed he conceived it to be a model
of a preamble, for it did not consist of more than three or
four lines. Ins object had been to preclude the verbosity
of lawyers, and he conceived that was one of the perfec-
tions of an Acl of Parliament.—(Laughter.) He thought
there ought to be no deodand where there was malice in
wilful negligence, and. therefore, he would do away
with deodands in cases of murder or manslaughter. A
man might do too much
Lord BROUGHAM said he could assure the Noble
Earl that as often as anything was said in his absence,
he was zealously, fearlessly, anxiously, ably, and success-
fully defended by his Noble Friend the Gallant Duke
opposite, and as zealously, though God knew not so ably
or successfully, by the humble individual who then ad-
drested them.---(Hear. hear.)
Lord CAMPBELL said that, if the Noble Earl
thought with him, he would suffer such things to take
their course. If the Noble Earl was content with matters
as they were, so was he, and he would not disturb them.
The Earl of ELLENBOROUII said that the Noble
Lord had made a long speech on a short Bill, but nine-
tenths of it might have been spared. But as the eighth-
tt nths elated to him and his conduct in India, he would say
that hewas there ready at any moment to defend his con
duct from the aspersions of any man, great or small—
noblo or mean—and he only wished that what had b. en
said in his absence might be repeated in his presence.
The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH said that he had
ventured to give a word of advice to the Noble Lord
opposite which was once given by Lord Chatham to a
Member of the other 'louse—" that, if he meant nothing,
he should say nothing."
The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH said he owed a deep
debt of gratitude, both to his Noble Friend the Gallant
Duke and the Noble Lord opposite, but he could not
venture now to speak on that subject.
The House then resumed.
PROPERTY-TAX.
Lord WHARNCLIFFE moved the second reading of
this Bill. It merely contained the measure passed some
few years since, and he should propose that the discus-
sion on this Bill, as well as on the income-tax, should be
taken at one and the same time.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said both the mea-
sures were of great public importance; but he quite
agreed with the Noble Lord that one discussion would
arswer every object.—(Hear, hear.) He thought
the discussion could be more conveniently taken
after the holidays; but he hoped this admission would
not be construed into a confession that he was indifferent
on the subject. It had been said that the people were
eamoured of this measure, but he was far from enter-
taining that feeling.
Lord BROUGHAM said if the measure had consisted

of a mere property-tax many of his objections to the
Bill would cease altogether He agreed with his Noble
Friend that it was convenient that these matters should
be discussed all at once, instead of their being taken
peacemcal. He th*refore thought they had better
postpone the dii.cussion, but it was not to be
understood from this that ho was enamoured
with the law. He was, how( ver, inclined to endure it,
for the sake of getting those fiscal changes which had
b-en premised by the Government ; and when the dis-
cussion was taken, be should be prepared to Cate what
were the modifications he wished to introduce 'into the
present measure.
The Duke of WELLINGTON said it would be a
matter of general convenience, if their Lordships' House
would postpone the discussion on this question until the
third reading, as many Noble LorJs were absent who
might wish to give their opinions on the measure.
Lord ASHBURTON said, that though there were
various opinions on the question in the other House and
throughout the country ; and though it had-been stated
in other places what should be done, and what
should not be done, in that House with the
solitary _ exception of a Noble Lord then
seemed to he but one feeling on the subject. Under these
circumstances he thought it would be more convenient
to defer the discussion till the third reading.
The Bill was then read a second time and ordered to be
committed to-morrow.

vV
The Companies Clauses Consolidation Bill then passed
through Committee, and was ordered to be reported to-
morrow.

After some further business their Lordship adjourned

HOUSE OF COMMON'S.

The House resumed at Five o'clock.

Sir C. LEMON brcught in the Cornwall Railway
which was read a first, and ordered to be read a
second time,
The Fiscal Procurators Bill was read a second time,
and ordered to be committed.
On the motion of Mr. CLIFTON, the Blackburn and
Preston Railway Bill was read a second time, and
ordered to be committed.
The Launceston and South Devon. Railway was read
a second time, and ordered to be committed.
Mr. TIIORNELY brought in the Wolverhampton
Waterworks' Bill, which was read a first time.
Colonel ROLLESTON moved the second reading of
the Sheffield and Newark Railway Bill.
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andgitßeir Berwick i Railway
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to
the Committee.
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NORTH BRITISH RAILWAY.
The North British Railway Bill was then read a
second time.
SOUTH DEVON RAILWAY.
On the motion of Mr. BARRY BALI)WIN, the
South Devon Railway Bill was readn second time.
BEAKS AND HANTS RAILWAY.
On the motion of Mr. GRIMSDITCH, the Berks
and I tants Railway Bill was read
.a second time.
GLASGOW, PAISLEY; -AND KILMARNOCK

RAU.WAY.
This Bill was also read a second time.
SEES' OF BANGOR AND ST. ASAPH.
Lord OLIVE presented a petition from some place in
Herefordshire, against the union of the ices of Bangor
and St. Asaph.
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Mr. SHEPPARD presented petitions praying the
Heuse to adopt measures for restricting the sale of in-
toxicating liquors on the Sabbath.
THE LAW OF BASTARDY.
Dr. BOWRING presented petitions complaining of
the'piesent law of bastsrdy.
THE rOOR-LA.W.
Mr, BLAKE preiented petitiou rr,>ti3ra :in/place in