The Sun.
London, England, 1845-05-10 00:00:00

country any service during the last fifteen years, he felt convinced
that it was principally on the day when, on his own responsibility,
he had ca!led on the Government to undertake the fortifications of
Paris ; there was no act of his life of which he was so proud.
. .

His conduct on that occasion had certainly drawn on him most
shameful calumnies, but he despised them when expressed as they
had been the day before.—(Great agitation.)

A Volce--Order ! Order

" M. Thiers—lf what the Hon. Deputy asserted yesterday was
true, the Chamber must have been composed, when the fortifica-
tions were voted, of dupes and traitors, but there had been neither
one nor the other. They who had voted for that work had not
done so to please him (M. Thiers), but because they were satis-
fied, like General Haxo, like General Valaze, and like Napoleon
himself, that such an act would be of the greatest benefit to the
country. He had frequently heard General Bertrand declare that
the Emperor had said to him that the greatest service that could
'be rendered to France was to fortify the capital. M. de Lamartine
had spoken of the influence of the fortifications on the balance of
power in the State. Some day or other, he (M. Thiers) should
perhaps tell how in that balance the equilibrium had come
to be broken, but he should choose his own time for doing so, and
should himself decide when it might be useful to write that history.
" M. De Lamartine thought that the violent language used
by M. Thiers, when complaining of having been calumniated by
those who considered the fortifications most dangerous to France,
justified the doubt and uneasiness which the measure inspired in
the country.—(Murmurs.) But the words of the Hon. Deputy
were not of the same weight as facts. He should prove from his
own dispatches that he had not the slightest idea of war in 1840,
and, consequently that the fortifications of Paris were not re-
quired, but were nothing more or less than an act of Ministerial
dictatorship.—(lnterruption.) Ti!. Thiers, in a dispatch, dated
March 15th, 1840, declared that the French and English Govern-
ments agreed at bottom in their views.'—(Movement.) In a dis-
patch from Lord tiranville, of May 1, 1840, it was said, M. Thiers
has communicated to me a dispatch to his consul at Alexandria, di-
recting him to make the Pacha clearly understand, that France, in
order to preserve Syria to him, would not compromise her rela-
tions with England.'—(Fresh marks of interest.) Besides, M.
Thiers had himself declared in the Chamber just before the forma-
tion of his Ministry, that whatever might be the aspect of affairs
in Europe, there was no danger of a cannon being fired.' Where,
then, were the signs of war ? Where the necessity of the fortifi-
cations ? Lord Palmerston, in one of his dispatches to M. Bulwer
in Paris, said, I have given M. Guizot to understand'—M.
Guizot was then Ambassador at London—' that the French fleet
ought not to be placed in such a position with respect to ours as to
produce a collision, and he replied that care should be taken to
prevent it.'—(Continued movement.) He respected the convic-
tions of M. Thiers, as that gentleman ought to have respected his,
but he must still reproach him with having placed his country on the
verge of so great a danger, and thrown round the capital of France
so menacing a circuit. M. Thiers, in the course of his remarks,
had pronounced a word which might possess a personal character—
one that had never been applied to him (M. de Lamartine), and
which he should never permit any man to so apply. He must call
on the Hon. Deputy to declare precisely what he meant by that ex-
pression, and when he should hare explained, he (M. de Lamar-
tine) should know in what manner he ought to reply to him.—

(Tumult, agitation.)
" The President—Both Hon Deputies had expressed their opi.
nions as they had a right to do. Nothing of a personal character
could be attributed to their words. Their political views were alone
referred to, and nothing more could be said of the matter.—(Cries
of ' Hear, hear,' and continued agitation.) "

Some other speakers made brief remarks amidst great
agitation ; a division took place, and the Chamber ad-
journed. Immediately a fter the Chamber rose, the
President sent for M. Trrmus and M. DE LAMARTINE
to his private cabinet. The following account of the in-
terview is given by the correspondent of a Contem-
porary :

" M. Thiers replied, that he had no wish to meet M. de Lamar-
ine, but he appointed M. de ReMUSat and M. 4anneron to at..

tend for him; while M. de Lamartine attended in company with Ge.
neral Liadet and the Mar wis de la Rochejaquelin. M. Thiers had
previously declared to his friends, ' that he would rather
stand fifty shots than retract a single word he had made use of.'
M. de Lamartine was the first to enter the President's cabinet. He
stated distinctly to the President, and the four friends present on
behalf of the two parties, that in the words which he had used in
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the course of his speech on the preceding day, and which had given
offence to M. Thiers, it was not to that gentleman he alluded at
all, and that he had never suspected the good faith of M. Thiers.
After M. de Lamartine had left the cabinet, M. Thiers entered,
and on being informed of the explanation given by the former, he
said that as his opponent had no intention of alluding to him, he
could have no objestion to withdraw the offensive expression of
which he had made use ; but he reserved to himself the liberty of
withdrawing what he then said till such time as M. de Lamartine's
explanation was regularly drawn up upon paper. M. de Remusat
was then appointed to draw up a statement of the explanations on
both sides."
Next day before proceeding to public business the
President informed the Chamber that, " in consequence
of the language which had taken place the preceding day
between M. THEIRS and M. DE LAMARTINE, he had
deemed it his duty to call those Honourable Gentleman
to his private cabinet; that there, in the presence of
mutual friends, explanations had been given by both the
Honourable Deputies, which, in the opinion of their
friends were perfectly satisfactory. The Chamber (ob-
served the President) would hear with pleasure of this
termination of the difference that had arisen between
two of their colleagues of such consideration, and so well
deserving of each other's esteem." This announcement
was received with cheers. The discussion was then re-
sumed. The amendment of M. LAROCHEJAQUELIN for
depositing the guns in the arsenal of Toulouse fell to the
ground, as no one seconded the motion. Another
amendment was proposed, but no result had taken place
at the time of post.
The following are miscellaneous extracts from the
papers :-
The Journal du Havre publishes a very long letter from
Lepaire, master of a trading vessel, complaining of vexation'
whilst at Ichaboe taking in a cargo of guano, on the part of
Captain Brooke, of her Majesty's ship Thunderbolt. The writer,
however, does not reproach Captain Brooke simply with his con.
duct towards French traders, but declares that he has been
equally tyrannical and unaccommodating to those of his own
country. As regards M. Lepaire, however, the charges are chiefly
for want of courtesy, and too unimportant to render it necessary
for us to give them in detail.
The New Zurich Gazette states from Lucerne, May 3, that Dr.
Steiger, one of the leaders of the late movement, has been tried by
the Criminal Tribunal, and condemned to be shot.
The Gazette du Midi of Marseilles quotes a letter of the 22d
ult. from Alexandria, stating that Mehemet Ali was irritated at
not having received any intelligence from England as to the postal
treaty, and has threatened that, if it be not settled within a month,
he will put a stop to the internal navigation by the boats of the
English Company. Already, it is added, one of these boats, lately
built for running between Alexandria and AW, has been refused
admittance into the canal."
The Three per Cents. closed on the Paris Bourse on
Thursday at 85f. 95c. ; the New Loan at 86f. 35c. ; the
Five ; Orleans Railroad Shares,
2.
15. ; 6
Rouen,
;311avre, 870 f.; Avignon, 1,030 f.;
Three per Cents., 42f. ; Spanish
Basle, pfe
2r Cents.sr.; Spanish a
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Passives, 71.
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The following are the quotations for the new lines :-
Orleans and Bordeaux, 225 f. premium ; Boulogne, 16Cf.
Paris and Lyons (La-
di;tto (Ganneron), 13f. 75c. ;
fi dittotte),;
2T(J.. o;
Northern Line (Latitte), 33f. 75c. •
, ditto (Rosamel), 7f. 50c. ;
Tours and Nantes (Mackenzie), 12f. 50c. ; ditto (Drouillard),
lf. 25c. ; ditto (O'Neill), 15f. ; ditto (Jaques Lefevre), par ;
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Lyons and Avignon (Lecointe), 32f. 50c. ; ditto (Talabot), 35f. ;
ditto (COmpagnie bleridionale), 13f. 75e. ; Bordeaux and Tou-
louse (Mackenzie), 6E ; ditto and Cett.:; (Espeleta), 17f. 50c ;
Creile and St. Quentin, lf. 50c. ; Paris and Strasburg (Gan•
neron), 15f. , • Eiji
on and Dilulhausen, 6f. 25c.
LYONS, MAY 5.-Avignon, and Marseilles I,ooof. cash ;
Paris and Orleans, 1,207 f., for the 15th inst. ; Orleans and
Vierzon, 812 E, cash; Orleans and Bordeaux, 700 f., end of
May ; Boulogae, 640 f., for the 15th ; Montereau, 570 f., cash.

Her Majesty and Prince Albert, attended by the
ladies and gentlemen of the royal suite, left Buckingham
Palace soon after two o'clock this afternoon, for the
terminus of the South-Western Railway, to be conveyed
by a special train to Gosport, en ionte to Osborne House,
Isle of Wight, where the royal party are expected to
pass some days•