The Sun.
London, England, 1819-10-12 00:00:00

FOR THE SUN.

M. EDITOR-4 mug still he 'allowed to keep
clear of metaphors, especially where
,opposite
sciences are mingled in a union whereof they are
naturally incapable. I cannot argue upon any
common properties in mathematical points and
chymical spirits, angles and faeces, concoctions
ar•.d circles.

1 really thought, Sir, that I had come pretty
closely to tire object of my disquisition. In the
bingtlage of your Correspondent, since we must
" speel by the card," I t bonght the people had
something better than the " feces," when I al•
lowed their right to a third pact of the " con-
coeliOn."

Whether or not the social contract of other
States originally formed a Democracy, or an Oli-
garchy, or a Monarchy, or which of these sprang
ma of the other, is beyond our present question.
Neither are we bound to discuss " surmised
contracts ;" which I am too apt to consider as
part of the lunar records. Our business is with
the English Constitution alone, and I RIO sure
that l'aaeosm will, on a very little reflection,
abandon the dangerous ground of
,first principles.
We twist act upon what we are, not what we hare
been, nor what the Reformers want us to be. PRO..
POSITI, who is himself a Gentleman, and compli.
mews me with the same character, will not de-
sire the interposition Of a Rodicoi. Such inter-
position I shall never notice bot in one way.
Unintendingly, however, he throws over his
system an air of radicalism, by travelling upwArds
to human conventions, civil societies, social con-
tracts, and presumed agreements ; and he will
permit me to observe something very like a fal-
lacy in his paralleling the one Constitution of
Britain, to the three Constitutions of three other
States ; each of which severally possessed ill its
origin one of the three characters which Britain
has united.

Yes, we now possess such a Constitution as
l'aorosyrt describes, and I am pet fectly satisfied
with its possession, without troubling myselt a.►out
its origin,. " Consolidated, they are supreme tor
Legislation."

1 thank PROPOSITI for this emphatic sentence,
the conciseness whereof emulakes its clearness.
He has in six words embodied and established my,
argument. Consolidated, they are supreme, se-
parated they are powerless. 1 mu glad of his
able support, and willingly march under the
standard of such a Leader.

" Consolidated, they arc supreme, (or legisla-
tion." I must not emulate the excursive fancy of
your Correspondent ; or I could almost venture to
blend his mathematicals and chymicals with a
commercial metaphor, and call the British Con-
stitution the Three Consols.

For legislation."—And is not this the apex
of supremacy )—ls not the power o. directing
what is to be done, superior to the power' of doing
it ?=—Does not the very, term " Executive" imply
the fulfilment of a power -emanating elsewhere ?
My 'argument would, indeed, be worse t lien idle,
if it presumed to place the snpremary of legisla-
tion in any one of the Three Estates, orapy-
where but in their triple concurrence. Without
that concurrence nothing Can he Law ; with that
concurrence, will PitOPO,ITI say what can NOT be
Law?

For the sake of the King'w executive function,
which is necessary to vitalize the enacttnents of
the Legislative Body, allegiance is due to him.—
But allegiance it ?rot 'due to hint as one of the
three parts of tliat Body,' more than to the other
two; the allegiance ‘vbicb is due, and, indeed,
essential to the concurrent supremacy of the ihrce,
is given to HIM ; not only becamie as a single
person he alone can personally reserve it, but be-
cause he alone 'is charged with the execution of
that Law which he bad legislatively concurred in
making.
In a word, executively, the King is singly su-
preme, quoad such' execution ; and he has many
prerogatives for the'salety and the dignity of such
execution. Legislatively, he is concurrently su-
preme'; and nothing more—for be "cati 'do no-
thing of himself. And if he is not, surely-the,
lords are not singly supreme ? Nor •the •CoM-
mons ?—Certainly not:—Tire Supremacy rests in
the whole ; and the Executive Power is botind to.
execute their will.

Is this Toryism ?—No. For it attributes not
any supremacy to the King.—ls it \Vliiggism
No. For it attributes as little to the People.—
Is it not Constitutionalism ?--For it attributes all
supremacy to the Constitution.
But, for the Hie of me, Sir, I cannot understand
the supremacy which your Correspondent attri-
butes to the King—as a substantial supremacy I
mean—nor the allegiance which be acknowledges
to the King, as the Executive Functionary 01 the
Constitution ; while he withholds it from the
Constitution, whereof the King is only a third
part.—lndeed, Sir, such an assertion must have
" proved itself," if it has been proved at all.
And if, as Pnorostrt insists, the three powers
of the State reside—one in the People themselves,
" with whom it originated ;" another in the COD-
slitUlloll, which was " marked out " l,•g"t/te Peo-
ple; and the third is that "form of Government"
which is the " effect of that Constitution."-1
should be glad to know which of these three parts
is not radically, and operatively, and consecutive-
ly, popular. For it seems to me, in all its three
parts, to be nothing else but—the people—the
people—and the people :—while allegiance is the
singular and " paramount " pretogative of their
executive officer. And all this time, the Church
too is a part of the State, emanating also, I pre-
sume, from the people. And this tri-popular
thing, to which I scarcely know bow to give a
name, is not the Parliament, nor of course any
part of the Parliament,—hut an invisible exist-
ence, which the Parliament (including its " para-
mount " King) must obey, and cannot alter. lu
such a view, Sir, it must have been contemporary
with the " social contract," from which your
Correspondent informs us that the Parliament ori-
ginated ; and can include nothing that was enact-
ed by the Parliament. Such Parliamentary no-
velties as the Act of Settlement, the hill of
Rights, and Magna Charta, are of too modern
date for this extra-parliamentary power, this ,

THE SUN.

SOLEM IS Pict:HE FALSUM AU trCAT ?

LON DO N,
TUESDAY, 0CT084.12, 1819.

MEETING OF PAIILIAPtihNT.-A Ptodamaiion ii
prep riu~, and will forthwith b'e issued, an-
nolineing the Meeting of Parliament on the 2:.),t1
of neat Month. •

We received last night and this morning the
Pails Papers of Friday and Saturday last. The
following are extracts ' •

PARIS, OCT. 8 —The King yesterday trans-
acted business in his Cabinet, and afterwards
took his usual airing.

" The DUChtS3 de Berry and Mademoiselle con-
tinue in the most satisfactory state. •
" The Cardinal de Perigord is to he installed
this day as Archbishop of Paris.

It is understood that Marshal Gouvion St.
Cyr,-not, having been able to obtain in the Coun-
cil (;1 Ministers the placing the Veterans in active
service, has given in his resignation.—(f uzetic de
France.)

" it is entirely unfounded, that the Erneror of
Russia has 740,000 men under arms, or that
160,000 are to be levied. The effective force of
the Russian army is 400,000 men, and the new
levy is to produce 60,000,
Ocr. 9.—Yesterday the Cardinal de Perigord
took possession of the Archbishopric of Pal ►s.
1-lis Eminence WAS installed by the Chapter with
a grand 'ceremony. The reliques of Sr. Denis
were afterwards conveyed in procession, the
Archbishop following them to the Chapel of tI,•
Archbishopric in the Cathedral. The Minister of
the Interior, the Municipal Authorities, &c. &c.
assisted at the ceremony. The Archbishop after-
wards gave a thinner of 60 covers.
" The King yesterday gave a long andierice
to the Cardinal de Perigord, and transacted busi-
ness with the Marquess Dessolles. Di• Majesty
afterwards took an airing to Malmaison.
" The Duchess de Berry will be up immediate-.
Mademoiselle continues to enjoy the best
health.

FIVE PER CENT!.

'lltursday 69 f 90 g.
Friday 7O f. 30 s.
DEFERRED ST(eCK
Thursday. iritlay.
Of the 22d March, f. 35 e... 191. 85 C.
22d Sept. . 90 1. :35•c...90f. sSS c.
t4d Marcii,lBl2i... 86 f. c... 88 f. 85 c.
22d Sept. 1813....8(11. 35 c... 861. 85 C.
42c1 March, 1319...34 f. ;15 e 84 f. 85 c.
22d Sept. 1819...82 f. 45 cSi f. 80 c.

" FRANKFORT, OCT. 1.-The Queen of Sweden
has quitted this City, to proceed to Belgium.—
It is said her Mojecy will have an, intetvicvv, at

Spa, with tl:e Duke de Richelieu and the Russio
Prince Gallitzin, and that she will shortly retur°
here.

The Central Commission, at Mayence, for
the trial of political offences committed in Ger"
many, will be in full activity the middle of tbil
month. The Judges, seven in number, who are,
to form the Commission, are already nominated.

" LUBEe, SEPT. 24.—ft is said that several
English Merchants intend to establish themselves
in the Hanseatic 'roans.

" FRANKFORT, OCT. 2.—Several Journals hay,
been given up in consequence of the severe mea'
sures adopted by the Germanic Diet against the
Liberty of the Press.
" MAnnto, Seer. 27'.—Our Government has
appointed Lieutenant-General Don Nemeciu Sal"
cedo, ns its Minister to the United States.

" VIENNA, SEPT. 26.—The intelligence in Os
Foreign Journals of a pretended misunders'anding
between our Court and that of Russia, is regarded
here as a fable which is not worth refuting.
" The assembly of German Ministers here will
open the Ist November ; subjects of the highest
importance will be discussed, particularly the
question of Representative Constitutions.

" MADRID, SEPT. 27.—Tile yellow fever ems•
tinues its ravages at Cadiz and San Fernando,
which daily increase. The last Returns were as
follow :

NAZI FERNANDO.

Deaths.

Si&

The 15th, - 43 1,218
16th, - 43 • - 1,212.
17th, - 50 - 1,227
18th, - . 1,130
AT CADIZ.
Deaths. Qick.
17th, - 37
18th, - 44 Upwards of
19th, 45 3,000
20th, - 56

" VIENNA, SEPT. 28.—The marriage of ths
Archduchess Caroline, with the Prince of Saxony,
took place the day before yesterday.

" The Archduke Palatine, and several Austriala
Nobles, are going to Warea►w, to ♦isit the Eill •
peror of Russia, who is expected to remain there,
about three weeks.

" NAPLES, SEPT. 18.—Admiral Freemantlep
who was with his squadron at Toulon, has re';
crived orders to proceed with a French
to the coast of Africa, and to notify to the Barg
Nary Powers that France and England will not
suffer their piracies in the Mediterranean against:
any State. Our ship of the line, Capri, has 8160
sailed to display our flag off the African Coast." '

(Fume 71e National Letelligencer of Sept. 1.)

The Military Expedition fron► the Lakes to the.
Mississippi, consisting of the sth regiment of 10-
fantry, under Colonel LEAVBNWORTEI, arrived at
Prairie du Chien about the first of July, by (hi
way of the Fox and Oii;cen►er rivers. A de'
tachrr►ent has ,also asetrided the Mississippi, Irool
St. Louis, with provisions, clothing, and amm
ni(ion. Our Correspondent states, that Col. I
will have it in his power to establish the post at the
Falls of St. Anthony this season. We also learn,
that the Missow i Expedition, under Col. ATICO;'
sort, was in advance of St. Charles, and, nottvith'
standing the delay occasioned by some defects i 3
the steam-boa.ts, there was no doubt the (roof,'
would arrive 600 miles in• advance of St. Louie
this season, well supplied with provisions, cloth'
ink, and ammunition.
The character -of Colonel ATKINSON warrant'
the belief that the•a;rangetnents of Gore-some°
will be cart ied into hull effect without collision
with our Citizens or the Indians.
It is said an Indian War is brewing hetwees
the Cherokees and Usages ; that hostilities have
actually commenced, and tie former are the or
gressors. The, Whites, or either of the 11€4
Tribes will profit• by this.
Applications for the henrfit of the Insolvent
Acts of New-York scent to increase daily ; the
last Albany Anus contains abort 430 notices'
fron► which it is presumed the yearly application'
81110iillt to nearly :.;000. (A sad feature of o°ll`
prosperous trade.)

The respectable Inhabitants of Poistol hale,
we hod, followed the example of London oat'
Manchester, in coining forward with Declaration°
of Loydlty and Attachment to the Establishment
in Church find State, upon which all our holgi..
nes, and security depend. The approacbins
Meeting. of Parliament, which we yesterday f°'
nouncei upon what we presumed to consider as
authority, will confirm these loyal disposition."
and all who have a great stake in the Cot'
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try must join in a firm, resolute, and COTIII°,
support of the Tilton. and the Altar,
never were invaded in so formidable a 1n.%
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=l►•mselces au►l fdrnilics, to listen to the inaant-
Itatory harangues of.RebtlF, and when ►ve see
the Daily Press aiding the diabolical attempt to
destroy the Government of the Country by so-
PListry, misrepresentation, and falsehood.

We have repeatedly warned our Readers not to
Place implicit confidence in the Rtel;ut•ts of the
Proceedings of the Coroner's Court at Oldham.
Notwitlistand:ng all the hrohihi►ions of the Coro-

ber against taking Notes, wee find, that. the Re-
Porters of The Morning Chronicle and TiteTintes
persevere in disregarding that order. We blame
not them, however we may be surprised at their
Pertinacity, for they are employed in their vOca-
lion, and their employeri probably mould and
%Lope their Reports into a form most suitable to
the characters of their respective Journals. We
are obliged to copy these lLeports, because they
are. demanded by public curiosity ; but we consi-
der it as our duty, from time 'o time, to repeat our
cautions against implicit confidence in the respec-
tive statements. There can hardly be a stronger
proof of the mischievous effect of the Radical
,boc:rilies and Milical .3.feelings, than the daring
liberties which. are taken hi our Courts of LAW
by Reporters and Attornies, observable in the
Proceedings of the Coroner's Court at Oldham. At
Torincr period, no Solicitor could have presumed
to itt ertere with such officious obtrusion, such Tres-
tinning and Gross-questioning its Mr. LIAR:Wag has
thought proper to slim, and if lie had, he would
hive been resolutely turned out of Court. And if
I"ciiert ers,after being prohibited from taking notes,
11ad then persevered in contcmnt of authority,
they trotilil have been committed as they ought to
le. But what must bethought of the Proprietors of
l'apers,who urgethe Reporters to persevere in spite
01 repeated warnings 2 It must be conceived that
they have particular purposes to answer, and con-
sidering the principles arid general conduct of
tiLc.two Papers in question, those purposes must
Qe supposed to be hostile to public peace, and
tile security of Governmen-t; NVe feel much for
The Coroner, who is placed in the midst of a
`laueerolla multitude, and watched by insidi-
llus end artful men, who are disposed to
Pervert and falsify every thing that passes.
IVe should not indeed wonder, if be were to exeit
114 authority to the fullest extent, that even his life
be in danger. He must therefore submit
1° the course of things, but-the evil will cure its
!elf. No doubt measures will be adopted to pre-
Nt the intrusion of future HARMERS. into simi-
-114,- -Courts, and- Coroners maintain their' au-
hori y With rigour, to prevent the current of
4 ratite from being corrupted with the offensive
c;,ret.,,s cut PAction.'

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Letter from Nassau, Bahamas, from
(tifieial Gentleman, dated 12th July, 1819.
e ham within a few days past, convicted,
4 the Court of Admiralty Sessions, one French-
-4" of murder, who has been executed ; and two
Pil4cY, whose sentences have this day- been
31'ited by the President, until the PRINCE RE.-
"vs Pleasure is known.
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bill of indictment was delivered to the
frond Jury by our
.A:torncy-General against Sir
iiREG"M`GREoutt, for having aided and assisted
qc of the pirates, named DAVIS, by furnishing
'4l with a Commission, which was returned a
true bill."

•
" -esterday, at three o'clock, the PRINCE RU-
:skit
4.1‘ field a Court at Carlton-house, which was
,
"'led by the Alarquess of Headfort, as Lord
Lord
Wait'u g ; '
ull as Clerk of the Council ;
!--Lr,
L'verpool, Lord Harrowby, Lord Stamford,
ti:tVansittart, Mr. Arbuthnot, and the Solicitor.
;""1. flis Royal Highness was pleased to confer
I,tl< <. of Knight!) cod on the Solicitor-General,
tel; Sir John Copiey.—The Duke of
-Northum-
-1.,0414"L1n Lord Sidmouth, Lord Castlereagh, and
Kent
4-t Car 40o.arrow, y,
had audiences of the Prince Re-
-11-1101ISE„
Weida `-'4(112 letters, received by the mail of yes..l
tiei„,,J,"leseribe the situation of that place and
tineV""thood as very melancholy, in conse-
)-ib,isee of the contagion which was making se-
th tatages. As the troops intended to go out
eXpedition were dispersed, it was supposed
Itasti/rnlaineut, if not totally destroyed, was at
4111 h. suspended for a considerable time. The
pres 3•
Chit ion with regard to the distemper still is,
l~liltYas brought to the bay of Cadiz by the
ikv-3 '4, that arrived some time ago from the
Ink "nab With money ; and for the sake of land.
vaiti W hich the usual restrictions were dispensed
fee4although the Captain on his arrival made
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th"tification that he had the fever on board,
,ttiat he had lost 120 persons on the voyage
• e.--(2lforn jug Chronicle.)
: e Ike and Duchess of KENT intend spend-
Nr, Part of the autumn at Sidmouth, tor which
tior)(l.e a house is selecting there for the recep.
I'l their Royal Highnesses.
• Ltuli e and
Tit ,led
‘Duchess of GLoucEsTitit accom-
th tirsd
4Y Y r lIICESs SOP HIA of GLOUCESTER, on
last. laid the two foundation stones of
l to be erected at Bagshot. The
toeir
Royal Highnesses had been pre-
-4-t4'.- 6lv :ot in the stones with the date, Scc.-
6'4(44 1111'11, Lady FRAztaa, and a number of
ot distinction attended the ceremony.