The Sun.
London, England, 1845-04-18 00:00:00

GRANT TO MAYNOOTH.

Mr. J. COLLETT wished to know from the Right
Honourable Baronet at the head of her Majesty's Govern-
merit, if the debate on the grant to Alaynooth should
terminate this evening, when it was intended to propose
that the Houee should go into Committee on the Bill.
Sir R. PELL—I trust there will be no objection to th
House going into Committee on the Bill on Monday next
( Hear, hear.) The debate has now been protracted to a very
lorg period, and as the Government have only two days,
namely, Monday's and Friday's, for brirging on Government.
measures, Ido hope that if the debate should close to-night
there will be no objection to the vote bring taken on Monday.
(Hear, hear.) I beg to as►ure Hen. Members that no
undue advantage whatever is intended to be taken in any way;
annd, therefore, after the debate closes to-night, I shall
make the motion,in form that the House go into Committee on
the Bill on Monday next.—( Hear, hear. )
Sir R. INGLIS said that the country felt so deeply inte-
rested in this measure that he could not at once, without con-
sulting his friends on that side of the House, give his• con-
sent ; and be, therefore, hoped his Right Hon. Friend would not
ask him to answer the question upon the instant.
Lord J. RUSSELL said, with respect of taking the vote of
money from the Consolidation Fund, for the purposei of the
Bill, he supposed that would be involved in the motion of the
Hon. Member for Sheffield. He supposed the considerat'cn
of the Bill in Committee could not take place before some sub-
sequent day—Friday, perhaps.
Sir R. YELL said the t...ommittee which be proposed for
Monday was not a Committee on the Bill, but a Committee
of the whole House for the purpose of taking the sense of the
House on the money vote included in the Bill, and afterwards
the Bill would be referred to the ordinary Committee. The
Hon. Member for Sheffield had given notice of a motion for
Monday. He did not complain of the length to
which this debate had been protracted, and he hoped
that considering the discussion which had already taken place,
end the discussion which must necessarily occur in its subse-
quent stages, there would he no objection to their proceeding
with the money vote on Monday.
The presentations of petitions connected with Maynooth was
then proceeded with. _ _ _

Mr. HINDLEY presented forty-eight petitions against the
the Maynooth grant from the following Oaces From the
parish church at Ashton-under-Lyne, signed by the clergy and
congregation ; from the clergy and congregation of St. Peter's,
Ashton-under-Lyne ; from the Surrey Chapel, signed by
nearly one thousand persons; from the inhabitants of Ship-
rith, Cambridgeshire; Yate and Pickup Batik, Lancashire;
Mortock, and its Vicinity, Somersetshire ; Waterford, Ire-
land; Walsingham, Norfolk; Snoring, Norfolk; Great
Jotham Protestant Dissenters, Corshlim, Wilts; Berkeley,
Gloucestershire ; Pembroke Dock ; Swansea, Glamorganshire;
Calton, Norfolk; Pisgah Chapel, Flint; Lady Huntingdon's
Chapel, Gloucester ; Wem, Salop; Salem Chapel, Woolwich;
Vernon Chapel, Pentonville ; Salem Chapel, Otley, York ;
Bangor, North Wales ; Barrowden and Morcott, Rutland ;
Cannon-street, Dumferline ; South Creek, Norfolk; Bap-
tists, Church-street Chapel, Blackfriars -road ; Heptenstall,
York; Wesleyan Methodists, Lostock ; Primitive Methodists,
Haddon, York ; Shipley, York ; Bradford, York ; Helough-
ton, South Raydham, Norfolk ; Stayley bridge ; Hyde, Che-
shire; Wesleyan Methodist Association, Warlaggan, Wilts;
Pilperro, Cornwall ; Clithero, Probruan,. and Caybrenme,
Cornwall; Tabernacle Chapel, Northwick, Duloc ; Calvanistic
Methodists, Hersham, Denbigh • Trevena, Brecon ; New
Tabernacle Chapel, Old-street-road, Shoreditch ; Free Church,
Girvan ; the Society of Friends, Rochester ; Teachers of Sun-
day Schools, Harford, Essex.
Mr. LOCKHART presented a petition from the Synod of
Glasgow and Ayr against the grant to Maynooth.
Petitions against the grant were presented by Mr. Bell,
Mr. Packe (from Devon), Mr. Taylor, Mr. Greenal, Mr. Ha-
milton, and Col. Acton.
_

Mr.' ROEBUCK presented a petition from some place
whose name we did not catch, in favour of the measure.

Petitions against the Alaynoeth grant were presented by Mr.
C. Round, Mr. Plumptre (8), Dr. Bowring, Sir J. Easthope,
Leicester; Mr. Hastie, from Paisley ; Mr Milnes, Mr.
Cripps ; Lord Ebrington, from Plymouth ; Mr. T. Duncombe;
Mr. Bright, from Northumberland; Mr. Blewitt, from Mon-
mouth ; Mr. Grogan, from Dublin ; Mr. Macauley, from
Edinburgh ; Mr. Darby, Captain Polhill, and Mr. C. Bruce,
from Elgin.
Sir C. NAPIER presented a petition from the Protestant
Dissenters meeting at Portland-stret Chapel, in favour of the
gri:nt to Maynooth College.
Petitions against the grant were presented by Lord Ashley,
Mr. G. Bankes, Mr. Sharman Crawford, and other Hon.
Members.

THE ADJOURNED DEBATE.

The order of the day was then read.

Mr. S. CRAWFORD said he felt deep regret at being
compelled to separate himself on the present occasion from
many Hon. Gentlemen for whom he entertained the highest
respect, and had been obliged to differ more especially in opinion
with many Members from Ireland. He also felt regret at
being compelled to oppose the measure of her Majesty's Go-
vernment, which he was sure they brought forward with the
kindest dispositions towards Ireland.--( Hear.) But, as one
of those who were in favour of the voluntary principle,
he felt compelled to vote against it. There wer,e.:tspalaren
voluntary principle. They were charged, first, with concurring
in the former grant to Maynooth, and in the next place,
they were charged with voting for a chimerical
project, which they had no chance of carrying out.
With regard to the first he believed it would be admitted, with-
out dispute, that a new question now arose, for a permanent
endowment by Bill was a very different thing from an
annual grant by vote.—( Hear.) It might be in some degree
inconsistent with the voluntary principle that he had not opposed
the grant to Maynooth, but he confessed he felt reluctant to
vote against the grant to Maynooth, out of respect to his
Roman Catholic brethren, and to upset that which had been
established by the Irish Parliament.—( Hear, hear.)
Nor did he think that the second charge was more valid.
He was of opinion that if this grant were passed to the College
of Maynooth the principle would not stop there.
[LEFT SPEAKING.]

LLOYD'S SHIPPING.
CAUTION TO MARINERS.
SUNKEN WRECK IN THE VICTORIA CHANNEL.
The following is posted at Lloyd's:—
" Royal Mail Steamer Prince, Dublin, April 5, 1845.
" Gentlemen—For the information of the shippinginterest,
I have the honour of informing you that I have passed a
wreck of some magnitude in the centre of the Victoria
Channel, in four fathoms water, a small distance to the bar,
and although a buoy is placed over her, and her masts are
visible, a strong westerly against her last quarters' ebb, pro-
duced so much sea as to make her imperceptible at any dis-
tance. I think a vessel should immediately be moored near,
to warn the inward-bound of their imminent peril, and am,
respectfully, Your very obedient servant,
(Signed) " GEORGE S. PARSONS.
" Messrs. John Walsh and Co., Agents for Lloyd's."
P.S. The lights well opened will clear the wreck on either
side, but the best passage appears to me to be to the south-
ward of her, with the lights very open, and passing close to
the great Barba Bank.
IMPORTANT CAUTION TO MARINERS.
REGULATIONS FOR MERCHANT VESSELS PASSING THE DAR.
DANELLES AND BOSPHORUS.
Foreign-office, April 16, 1845.
Sir,—l am directed by the Earl of Aberdeen to transmit to
you herewith, for the information of the committee at Lloyd's,
an extract of a memorandum received by her Maji sty's
Ambassador at Constantinople, from the Turkish Minister
for Foreign Affairs, on the subject of the regulations under
which the passage of merchant vessels through the Straits
of the Dardanelles and the Bosphorus is to be effected. lam
at the same time to state to you that the result of some com-
munications which Sir Stratford Canning has had with the
Porte since his receipt of this paper is, that merchant vessels
will be allowed within the Straits both of the Bosphorus and
the Dardanelles, in such manner as to obtain shelter from
accidents of weather, but that in other respects the regula-
tions will be carried into effect in the manner announced.—
I am, Sir, your most obedient humble servant,
(Signed) H. M. ADDINGTON.
Win. Dobson, Esq., Secretary to the Committee of Lloyd's.
(Copy—Translated from the French.)
EXTRACT OF A MEMORANDUM COMMUNICATED BY CHEICELI
EFFENDI TO HIS EXCELLENCY SIR STRATFORD CANNING,
ON FEB. 27, 1845.
It is known that merchant vessels in general, neither Otto-
man or belonging to friendly nations, are permitted to pass
the straits after sunset, nevertheless merchant vessels, un-
willing to observe this regulation, are seen, from time to
time, endeavouring to pass, and although attempts have
been made to stop them, by firing cannon, merely for the
purpose of signalling the same to them, and without any
intention of touching them, as they know that the firing
will do them no injury, no real advantage has been the re-
sult. Now, the ancient prohibition with regard to merchant
vessels became inoperative merely from the impossibility
of discovering whether the vessels which may be passing
during the night were merchant vessels or vessels of war,
but the authorities have written and represented to us that
they "attribute to a species of tolerance the fact that they
have not hitherto fired cannons at the vessels which have
passed, with any intention of injuring them; the greater
part of the vessels endeavoured to elude the regulation in
question.
It is for this reason that it has been definitively decreed to
put into full execution, with regard to all vessels which may
attempt to pass the straits after sunset, this absolute pro-
hibitory regulation, a regulation which must be maintained
inviolably as part of the ancient system of government of
the Sublime Porte, and as a necessary consequence of that
which has been established by the treaty which has been
concluded a short time since with the five allied Powers.
In consequence, the authorities have been informed that
a term of three months, calculating from the Ist of March,
in the current year, 1261 (1845), has been fixed upon, and
that at the expiration of this term, they must, in the first
place, give notice by signal to the vessels which may insist
upon entering the straits of the prohibition there is in force;
that if they uo not pay attention thereto, they shall fire two
or three hi-auk cartridges; and that if they do not pay any
attention to this also, they shall employ all means of endea-
vouring to prevent them by firing at them with ball.
Consequently, we address to your Excellency the present
official memorandum, requesting you to have the goodness
immediately, and in the manner most efficient, to bring the
measures in question to the knowledge of the captains of
British merchantmen, so that they may become aware that
if, in consequence of the system above alluded to being put
in practice, there should be any damages or injuries done,
they can make no claim nor complaint therefrom.- And,
lastly, in order that your Excellency may have the goodness
to issue orders and injunctions necessary and analogous
thereto.—The 15 Saper, 1261.

CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT.
SENTENCES AND SESSIONAL RESULTS.
Death—Thomas Henry Hocker.
Transportation for Seven Years—Mary Ryan, R. Walker,
T. Dimsley, H. Jenkins alias Bates, C. Madden, G. Widgett,
T. Hatcher, J. Jackson, J. Smith, F. A. Arkell, J. Matham,
A. M'Coy, M. Heavy, H. Hurry, J. Clark, S. Lewis, R. Slade,
W. Hare; G. Kirby.
FEU' Ten Years—Julia J. Payne, Margaret Doolan, Mary
Ann Birch, H. Cavanagh, S. Langdale, J. Proctor, J. Parish,