The Sun.
London, England, 1821-11-07 00:00:00

MERCANTILE SHIPPING, &c.

bEAT., Nov. W.N.W.—Came down from the
River the Phtenix,Withe.rhea.d, for Portsmouth and New South
Wales; London, . Smith ; Lady Holland, Powell ; anti Coro-
mandell, Boyer, for Jamaica ; Sister, Sergeant, for Demarara ;
Hermes, Re!yerton, for Malta ; Nassau, Tremayne, for St. Mi-
chaels ; Monmouth, Simpson, from Newcastle, for Jamaica ;
and Fanny Viiase, Listt..r, from Hull, foe Oporto. The Nassau
has lost an anchor and cable. The above have sailed with tl:e
rest of the outward-botind.—Arrived and remain the Mai 7,
Dunn, from Quebec, wit's ld;s of bulwark ; Wilcock,
froth Sierra Leone ; Elizabeth, Ostler, from Ceylon and Madras;
and Earl St. irmd2nt, from Bombay.-=-Put badk the Amity,
M'lntosh. The Allianc, Amey, from Shields for: Oporto, is
of the North Foreland,";with loss of tTo anchors and cables.—
The withd has, nor (7 o'clock) backed to the S.W. and the oat-

ward ,bound are coming back.

P08.T.53101; Z ir, Nov. 6.—Wind E.—Arrived his Majesty's
ship Rosario from a cruize.—Sailed the Androssan, Prentin,
for Liverpool ; Manning, Smith, for St. Kitts ; Man
darin, for Baltimore ; Caroline and Jane, Anderson,
for Bordeaux ; Strayford, Rogers, for New Orleans ; Pasqual,
Ardeiro, for Cadiz; Deptford, Young, for St. Vincents ; and
James Dunlop„ Sheppard, for St. Kitt's.
HOLYHEAD, Nov. s.—The hull o' a brig of about 10
tons was brought into a creek, about five miles at the back of
the Head yesterday, by some fishing boats. The wreck is ea,
tirely open. all her frame work gone, sides and bows whole.
She appears to have been some time under water.

PLYMOUTH, Nov. 5.-.-Wind NA:V.—Arrived the Rost!,
Humphries, from /,ante, 'for Gibraltar. SailAl the Friends,
Bur, for Trequier.

ScAlt on o Gir, No'. I.—The Collingwood, Ilfackrath, of
Rye, bound to the North, was lost during the late gale two
miles south of this place. The Bucephalus, Geddes, of Shields,
came on shore yesterday afternoon; crew saved by the life-
boat. The Eagle, of London, Henley, came on shore at 114;4
water, and has received considerable damage.
WINTRY, Nov. s.—Yesterday, during a strong gale from
the East, the Friendship, of South Shields, from Riga, came
on shOre, and will be totally wrecked ; crew saved. Three
sloops are also on shore.

SUNDIMLAND, Nov. s.—The following vessels were driven
on • shore near this place yesterday morning, during a very
.heavy gale from E.N.E. to N.E., viz.:—Brothers, 'Walton,
since gone to pieces ; Dido, Nixon, nearly wrecked ; Betsey,
Wright, and Mary Ann, not much damaged, and expected to
be got off;. Dover Excursion, of Wisbeach, much damaged ;
the Vesta, Carson, of Lynn, is on shore near Hartlepool ; and
several other vessels on the Coast.

FALmo ; Nov. 5.--Wind N.—Sailed the Lady Ara-
bclla packet,!with a- mail for I,iibon ; also the Thalia, for Port
Jackson ; Ilarquez,s ofAmilesea, William Harris, George the
Third, John, and Angerstem, for Jamaica ; Antons fir An-
tigua ; John, Baker, for Leghorn ; Amelia, for Seville ; Re-
signation, for BilbOa ; Jane, for Faro ; and Britannia for
Lisbon.

11 t?LL, Nov. 5.—A gale yesterday came on very suddenly
at twelve o'clock, and blew with extreme violence. The Viewly
!Jill, Williamson, of Scarborough, from Sunderland to London,
went on shore during the afternoon'at Withernsea; caw) (wheat
and. flour) expected to be saved. A river sloop Was lost in the
Humber ; the:master, his wife 4, and children, were drowned.
Another is said to be lost oo the Lincolnshire coast.

ARWICIT, Nov. 6.—Arrived the Sally, Symes, from Sun-
derland, with loss of an anchor,-and windlass damaged; Jubi-
lee, t'larton; for Selby. with loss of two anchors, &c. ; Brad-
ford, Chambers, from II Lll, with less of three anchors ; Isa-
bella, from Sunderland, with losi of top-masts, and stove near
the main chains ; and 1 t ilberforce,Dods, from Newcastle, with
windlass damaged.

The Arts, Nimbly, froM Hull to London, foundered on
Nlonday. loorning near. Flushing ; the master and a man saved,
and arrived at Dover.

[Extract from a private Letter, dated Whitby, Nov 5, 1321.]
" We had adreadful storm yesterday ; five or six vessels are
ashore, and a number of men have been lost on this coast."
• The East India Company's ship Lowther Castle, arrived in
Bengal tha 22d May ; the Atlas and General Kyd, the 24th
May. The Nellie Castle arrived at Madras, the 14th June.
The Kent arrived at Bombay the 10th June. The General
Harris, outward-bound, put into St. Denis, Isle of Bourbon, fer
water.

STEAM VEssEr.s.—These vessels are now em-
ployed in the Adriatic. One (La Carolina) goes
regularly every second day from Venice to
Trieste ; another (L'Eridano) passes regularly
between Pavia and Venice, and with such cele-
rity thht the voyage is accomplished in 37 hours.
Not long since a steam boat ventured to sea in a
violent tempest, when no other vessel could, to
the assistance of a richly freighted merchant
ship.

About one o'clock yesterday afternoon, as
THOMAS STIRLING, Esq., one of the Coroners for
the county of Middlesex, accompanied by his
son, the Barrister, in a gig, were crossing Fleet-
street, from Bridge-street to Fleet-market, the
vehicle was run against by a hackney-coach, by
which the chaise was overturned, and Mr. S. and
his son were thrown out. Mr. STIRLING, sen.,
' was some time under the chaise, and had a narrow
escape from being killed : he received a severe
contusion on the right side of his head, and many
bruises on various parts of the body. Mr. S.,
the younger, escaped with some slight injury on
his hips and arms. Both were taken to a neigh-
bouring Surgeon's, where their wounds were
dressed. The horse and chaise were taken to
Mr. SAVAGE'S, the Red Hart, in Fetter-lane.---
After some time, Mr. STIRLING and his son were
conveyed home in a hackney-coach, and Mr.
GREENWAY , surgeon, of Lincoln's-inn-fields, was
sent for, it being.feared that Mr. STIRLING, sen.,
had received a fracture of the head ; but, on in-
quiry, we are happy to learn that he is out of
danger, having received no fracture.

CORN-EXCHANGE, Nov. 7.
We have had a considerable fresh supply. since Monday, from
Kent and Essex, and very little alteration in the price of Grain
since Monday ; we have no trade for the ordinary samples, and
none but the best meet with any sale, and the trade very depress-
ed, and but little vigour in the buyers, though offered something
lower than last day.
HOP INTELLIGENCE.
SOUTHWARK, Nov. sl—The demand for continue:
dull, but the supply not being great, the prices are tol,;r4ly
well supported.

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l'ilE LONDON JOURNALS.

November 7.

:LILY ErrnAcTs FROM THE MORNING PAPEIIS,

• • [MORNING POST.]
We: rejoice to find, by the contents of the
Dublin lournals, which arrived yesterday, that
his liriajesty's paternal injunctions /have not fallen
on: a barren soil. What was sown in kindness
has sprung up in brotherly charity, and Ireland
is indebted to the first visit of her Monarch for
the abolition of those party rites which, by com-
memorating the triumph of the few over the an-
cient gfeatness of,the many;
.created an undying
pi rit of hoStility among thedifferentclasses of her
population; and led to most of the outrages which.
.hove disgraced her for upwards of a century. The
outward. ceremonies of Orangeism, whose appa-
:rent object is not to assert or to confirm a
Triqciple, but to exult over the fallen—these
.!,eriodical incentives to hatred. and disturbance,
iav4-.at last been suspended by the loyalty, the
e.visc..lcfn and patriotism. of the Lord Mayor and
the
~iviagistracy of, bublin. A step has thus been
t-..hen for their suppression. Let.us hope that it
iii be total, and that the spirit which animated
Monarch when he entrusted Ireland with the
her peace, will not cease to act till it
'ish.ll have produced in that long distracted coun-
try the necessary results of conciliation—con-
lentment, tranquillity, and happiness. With
respect to the attempt lately made to intro-
'duce into' tills capital those very ceremonies
c: laic h -Ireland has sense, loyalty, and pa-•
•tr'otism enough to reject from her' bosom, we
only say that it was worse than sense-
was improper and unjust. Have the
fruits of popular irritation been so tempting in
Ireland that means should be taken to extend its
blessings to the metropolis of. the whole British
empire It is true that those means might fail,
-and that the public shows of Orangeism- might
not,create amongst us the dissentious with which
'they have.always been attended in Ireland. But
hy should they not ?—The reasons on which
the supposition -of. their harmlessness here is
founded, are also those which prove the inutility
and impropriety of their introduction. There is
no difference of opinion in this country on the
merits of William 111. Here he is known only
s a common Benefactor, the Protector of Eng-
lsh confirmed them by his wis-
dom and his sword, and to whom the country
has already paid her full debt of honour and gra-
titude. Any attempt on the part of individuals
to bestow new and private honours on his statue,
is thei-efore not•only a work of supererogation,
but an unmerited charge on the sincerity of the
community, and a direct effort to engross to
them Selves the praise of that feeling of gratitbde
and veneration *which is shared by the whole
people.

[MOT:XING CITRONTCLE.]
Some of our contemporaries are very much a
a loss to reconcile the Irish and llanoveriai
speeches of his Majesty .with each other. In the
former his Majesty told the people of Ireland,
that " his heart had been always Irish ;" and in
the latter, the people of Hanover, " I have al-
ways been a Hanoverian—l will live and die a
Hanoverian." And his Majesty's advisers are
ealled'upon to explain these contradictions. It
is seldom that we can conscientiously offer an
excuse for his Majesty's advisers. In the pre-
sent case, however, we think something may
be said for them. His Majesty ceases to
have British responsible advisers the moment
ha enters the Kingdom of Hanover. We
can take no cognizance of what passes there
any more than the Hanoverians can of what
passes here. His Majesty might repeat to
his good Hanoverian subjects the substance
of the German Doctor's diatribe against Eng-
land, to which we lately alluded, and call the
English the most brutal, selfish, and corrupt peo-
pie in existence, and we could have nothing
to say. The King of England can do no
wrong in any case, and in this case his Ministers
can do no wrong. Parliament haying allowed a
Foreign Sovereign to ascend our Throne, and to re-
tain dominions independent of this country, all the
rest follows as a matter of course. Indeed, pre-
vious to the dissolution of the German Empire,
his Majesty, as a State of that Empire, might,
according to its Constitution, have been obliged
to contribute his share to a vial- against England.
The wisdom of our forefathers was, no doubt,
very great, but they overlooked occasionally
very important matters. It is when his Majesty
returns to these Kingdoms that we must look
to Ministers for the display of all their wis-
dom, and all their discretion. As it is dan-
gerous to, go beyond the Revolution for pre-
cedents, and his Majesty is the first King
who has taken a fancy to visit all the three
realms, we have had since that event, they must
act by the unguided light of their own under-
standing in appeasing the contention which, like
that of the tribes of Israel and Judah, for their
respeCtive interests in the house of Jesse, is
likely to take place in these Kingdoms. The
Irish have already got the heart of his Majesty,
but the Scots and English are yet to be satisfied.
As the Scots are a calculating people, will they
be satisfied with the head ? The share for John
Bull, after this double allocation, we leave for
Ministerial ingenuity.

[BRITISH PIiESS.]
The funds rose yesterday about, a quarter,
-without the apparent operation of any cause of a
public nature to lead to this improvement. There
were no arrivals from the Continent,in consequence
of the tempestuous state of the weather. No confir-
mation, therefore has been given to the rumours re-
specting the appointment of an Ambassador from
the Court of Petersburgh to the Porte, or to those
contained in the last arrivals from the Continent,
-which brought the ...swan ce, though expressed
in more general terms, that all matters of dis-
agreement between the Courts of Russia and
Turkey have been accommodated. Unless, there-
fore, the truth of the old adage were fully ad-
mitted and acted upon, that " no news is good
news," there seemed no sufficient cause in the
ordinary course of affairs for an improvement in

the market. In the absence of puLlic events,
which might affect the prices of stock, we must'
necessarily attribute this rise to the skilful com-
binations of the speculators, who, as we under-
stand, have conspired to monopolize the greater
part of the floating stock, which is necessary for
the ordinary accommodation of the public, and
who, therefore, can supply it to occasional pur-
chasers hi such quantities and at such prices as
may suit their own purposes, and give an appa-
t'ent elevation to the general state of the market.
This speculation reaches, it is said, to a very
hazardous extent— W.e shall not,'therefore, be
surprised if webear, at the next settling, of some
defaulters to a large amount.

[MORNING HERALD.]
The prevalence of theft and rubbery in the
metropolis has recently been made the subject of
much observation in the newspapers. Some
ascribe this evil to the defective organization of

the police—others to our sturdy notions of liberty,
which do riot admit of domiciliary visits and sum-
mary confinement, by the police. But all seem
to acknowledge that the outrageous attacks.upon
life and property have, in audacity and frequency,
reached an alarming height. As to the in-
sinuated necessity of sacrificing the inviola-
bility of a man's domicile, and bowing the cornmu-
iiity•to summary citation and imprisonment, we
believe no such sacrifice is at-all .demanded—and
moreover, we believe,: that in Paris, which is so
frequently contrasted with London in this view,
the police does not, as it respects the repression
or detectitm of common offences, use more ex-
tensive
or summary powers than the police Qf
London. It is true that political offences are, in
England, hedged round by various and salutary
forms of proceeding ; but against rogueS and
vagabonds, reputed thieves, suspected persons
and. places, the police Of London is as unin-
cUmbered and unimpeded as that of Paris.—
There is, perhaps, room for improvement in
the constitution of the police ;, but the great
defect is in the severity of the lawS. The
enactments are so, sanguinary, that the Juries,
the Judges,- and the Executive Government
itself, interfere between the criminal and the
execution of his punishment,—and thus the com-
mission of crime has become a great game of ha-
zard, with many chances of escape. It is not
alone want and misery, and opportunity, and the
tempting chanCes of escape, that impel men to
stake their lives, but also a certain gambling
hardihood, which is looked upon by foreigners
as a marked trait of English character. The
thief and robber take a pride in the reckless pro-
digality of life with which they invade the laws
that are made for the protection of society.

[ThE TIMES.]
We have hitherto confined our observations, as
much as we found practicable, to the composition
of the inferior parts of oar system of Police. Be-
fore, however, we detail the remedies which
have been suggested for the evils on which, we
have already touched, it will be useful to con-
sider the higher branches of the Police Establish-
ment. This establishment ought to be strictly
an instrument and associate of 'our judicial sys-
tem : it ought not to be a political, and least of
all, a Ministerial Police. Ten new Police-
offices—offices utterly unknown to the ancient
law and Constitution—have been created, viz.
[low-street, Marlborough-street, Queen-square,
11 atton-garden, Worship-street, • Whi techa pel,
Shadwell,Union-hall,ThamesPolice,Marylebone.
Over these offices 30 Magistrates preside; the
chief 'of whom (Sir R. Birnie) has a salary
of 1,c200/. per annum, and the remaining twenty-
nine 600/. per annum each ; all yernovable by,
and therefore dependent on, the King's Cabinet
Ministers. And who and what are these Magis-
trates ? Why, they are Magistrates who act
frequently as Judges ; Magistrates with more
power, considering' where they act, than any
others in England, and who, being wholly de-
pendent on Ministers for their pay, must neces-
sarily feel a bias in favour of the power that
supports them, in all cases between the Crown
and the people. It is as strange as true, that
in complete defiance of that principle from
respect to which. at the outset of the last
reign, twelve Judges' were declared indepen-
dent of the executive power, thirty Judges,
and, in their character of Police Magistrates,
men invested with .more immediately danger-
ous power than all the Judges of England put
together, were in the course. of the same reign
created and maintained in absolute subseiviency
to the Executive Government. If we are asked
what practical mischief has been the result of
this unconstitutional abuse, we 'have, unfortu-

nately, a ready answer, in the official conduct of
the very last Chief Magistrate of Police (Sir R.
Baker), and in his dismissal from office. Had Sir
R. Baker been placed on the same footing of in-
dependence as the Lord Chief Justice of the
King's Bench, he could not have been punished
for his humane desire to protect the lives of the
King's subjects, and his provident endeavour to
save, if possible, the Government from more ag-
gravated disgrace. The history of this Magis-
trate-furnishes at once a powerful and lamentable
illustration of our general argument.

[NEW TIMES.]
The shipping along the coast has suffered by
the late gales, but not to such a degree as to
justify our considering them unusually severe for
the time of year. The intercourse between this
country and France has been almost entirely
suspended for several days ; but we have known
the suspension to last much longer, and to be
more complete while it endured. In Yarmouth
roads between 150 and 200 vessels lost anchors
and cables, and sustained similar damage ; and
some few went on shore. The loss- of lives, how-
ever, hitherto ascertained, has been but small ;
and nothing has occurred this season at all com-
parable to the lamentable destruction of the Devon
and Cornwall fishing, which took place some
weeks ago. It is earnestly to be hoped that the
weather will become more moderate before his
Majesty's return from the Continent, which is
expected in the course of the present week. We
have heard that Sir William Curtis proceeded
some days ago to the coast, iu the hope of meet-

;a.; the king, ana tendering thom services whiCh
his Majesty on his departure .from E►►gland was
so-graciously pleased to accept at the blinds of
the worthy• Baronet.

It is amusing to see with what morbid sensi-
bility the disaffected Journals shrink from every
thin: like an expression of loyalty toward
his Iklajesty's person, even where there is
no the ''Slightest' pretence for connecting
such expression with the Administration of
his Government. The King's entry into two
of his capitals, Dublin and Hanover, has
given occasion to the display of enthusiastic af-
fection by his Irish and Hanoverian subjects
and this circumstance naturally suggested the
idea that his return to London (where he cer-

tainly has subjects equally loyal and equally af-
fectionate) might possibly be marked by some
public manifestation of those feelings. On
tht probability of such an occurrence we of-
fer no opietion ; but we cannot help smiling at
the effect which the suggestion has had on the
nerves of some of our brethren—" A broad
hint !" cries one—" The Ministerial Papers are
putting forth their feelers," exclaims another :
and they all seem to be thrown into a cold sweat
at the bare apprehension of the event. These
Gentry forget how often and how vehemently
they have asserted that their opposition is not to
his Majesty, but to his Ministers. They, for-
sooth, are the most loyal subjects he has ; for as
to us, who shout with joy when we see him ap-
pear in public, we are a mere set of Ultras,. a
" packed audience" at the Theatre, a venal
crowd at the Coronation ; and pure genuine
loyalty is to •be found nowhere but in the
immaculate columns of The Times, The News,
and Woolen's Gazette Such being the case, it
would be but common consistency in these en-
lightened Journalists to seize the opportunity of
distinguishing between the King and his Minis-
ters, and while they constitutionally oppose the
measures of the latter, to evince their equally
constitutional devotion to the former. We can-
not close these remarks better than in the words
of an animated Correspondent. " Those who
aim at the destruction of all feeling of loyalty,
whether by direct or indirect means, •lay at once
the axe to the root of Patriotism, for he who re-

veres not his King can never love his country ;
and those who would wilfully raise a spirit of
hostility against his Majesty's person, and would
incite his people to treat him :with disrespect,
ought to be held up for ever as deserving of
scorn, obloquy, and contempt."--(lbid.)

EXCESSIVE STUPIDITY.-A poor fellow, named
Cock, a carpenter, at Denham, Cornwall, was
defrauded of 311. Gs. by Gipsies, under the fol-
lowing circumstances :—They informed him that
he was the person destined to obtain a treasure
amotmting to upwards of 4,0001. in gold, which
lay buried in a certain spot, near his house,
which they could not point out then more pre-
cisely, but that if he could obtain the above sum,
and carry it about him for a certain time, he
would discover the place. Having made up the
sum required, he carried it to the Gipsies, when,
after performing some incantations, one of them,
in his presence, wrapped up the money in an old
handkerchief, which was given him, with a posi-
tive assurance, that if he did not open it for four
days, nor reveal the secret, he would at the ex-
piration of that time infallibly find the treasure.
Time dupe departed on this assurance ; but soon
lafter' beginning to fear that the Gipsy had trans-
Iferred the money to her own pocket, he opened
the handkerchief, and to his great joy found that
the sum was really in his possession. All doubt
of the truth of the Gipsy's prediction was now
removed, and when the four days had expired,
he went again to his erratic friends, when 'one
of the women told him that she could do
nothing for him, unless he would make oath
that he had done as he was directed. On this

the poor fellow owned that he had looked at the
money. The Gipsy desired him to give her the
handkerchief containing the money, and to place
his hack against hers ;. this being done, she com-
menced gesticulating with some violence, and
uttering words in a loud voice, which he did not
understand. After a short time she delivered
the handkerchief to him again, and desired him
to provide a pick and a shovel, and that she would
come to his house that night, and point out to
him the spot where the treasure was hidden. The
simpleton departed, provided the implements for
digging, and waited up the whole night, during
which he watched anxiously, but in vain, for the
appearance of the, Gipsy. When the morning
appeared, he began to fear he had been duped,
and again opening the mysterious handkerchief,
to his unspeakable surprise and dismay, he found
only two-pence. It is almost unnecessary to say,
that the Gipsies decamped soon after he left them,
and conducted their march so secretly that no
trace of them could be discovered by their
nearly distracted dupe or his friends.—(Sherborn
Mercury.)

Sunday morning, the stone in which the flour'
in Brixton House of Correction is deposited, was,
for the second time, robbed by some of the in-
corrigible thieves A% ho have been removed thither
from the public streets. One of the turnkey.
found that two or three bushels had been taken out
of a sack, and immediately made inquiry amongst
some of the most notorious characters upon the
subject. They all determined not to " split,"
and declared upon their honour they knew not
thing at all about it. The managers of the prison-
howeler, were resolved to help the recollection,
of this worthy association, and accordingly took
all the beds from under them, with an assurance
that the hard boards were the hest remedy in

the world for loss of memory upon such an occa-
sion. The experiment proved that the managers
knew with whom they had to deal. The thieves
at first became noisy, in the hope that by
terrifying the whole neighbourhood, they would
oblige those who exercised such power over
them, to remit their punishment. When, however,
they found that no bed was to be had without
a breach of honour, they yielded to the call of
nature, and betrayed those who stole the flour.
The delinquents are to be brought up for punish-
ment.