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London, England, 1821-03-27 00:00:00

yet there was not a month in the year in which
Bulls were not received from the Papal See. It
might be right-to interdict this intercourse with the
• ! Rely See ; and if it was, in the name of God, let
• it be done ; but if such intercourse was to be
permitted, let it be permitted according to
law, as it was in other countries, subject to
. • those restrictions which were .proposed, and
which the Roman Catholics' did not refuse to
grant. Let him not be told that there were cer-
tain Priests who were likely to prove disobedient
to thesproposed law—(Hear, hear, hear !).—lie
'should like to hear of any sanctuary which could
_protect any,,otherclasfr of his Majesty's -subjects,
won-tdj,llare to beard the Government with
:734.1th a docte`ine; who Would dare tosay that they
is'-ere to obey such a law—(Hear, hear !)?
He acted. there as a Legislator, and in looking
to the question before -him, he had' in view the
,:•:-Petition of four out of the only seven Catholic
Peers in England (and the signatures .of the
- other three were only wanting because they were
- not at the moment near town); he saw by that
Petition, that those Peers were ready to take the
oaths proposed. by the Bill, and to take that
part in the Legislature which Was calculated
•to shed its true lustre on the constitu-
tion—(Hear, hear!)—Away then with the de-
, clarations of one or two priests'; be valued
the declaration of those Noble Peers more than
he did the Petitions or declarations of 'fifty
.--.priests.—(llear, hear !)-4-21r. Milner might, if he
pleased, say no ; he (Mr. Canning) had no objec-
i _tion to let Dr. Milner roar on through.. as many
of his own Bulls as he pleased against the
mea-
.sure.--(Ilear! and a laugh.)—Let the threats of
those Learned DiVines go to what lengths they
.. pleased, they:were threats made only' feoth a -fear
"of dosing their influence over their own part of
the comniunity.--(Hear!)—No threats, no de-
Minciations of this kind, ought to deter the
'ouse from granting to the aristocracy of the
:country those privileges which
,Were their
.birth-right,—;-(Cheers)—or- from giving to the
Whole people of the United Kingdom that
moral claim to a participation in the Constitu-
tion of the country to which the right of uni-
versal franchise entitled . them.—(Hear, hear.)
Let this-be done, and, happen what would, the
House would nnd that there was nothing to fear
from the interference of a foreign Power. Let
, the Government have, if necessary, .a sufficient
:knowledge and a sufficient controul over any
.c,ornmunication with foreign States.: • •Let this, or
let more, if necessary, be done, but let them
:not send back in hopelessness arid despair that
great body of the people who were now ready to
3Oiri
,them on their own terms.—(Cheers.)—He
..diell,,not pretend" to say that the present Bill would
.not, make a great change in the Constitution of
the kingdom,.-hut:it,was a change, not of revul-
"Sian, but of progression ;It was not' the' intro-
claCtion ,of a noxious, but of a salutary measure ;
it ;vas: bringing to maturity (not a precocious ma-
Auiity) a measure, which'.was calculated to produce
'unanimity and good will in the minds of all 'lris
Majesty's subjects, and to extinguish for ever
those feuds and party feelings_ which- _nad- so
long.-existed. lie was aware that many perplexi-
ties had been from time to time thrown in the
way of this Bill. This question had been, at vari-
ous times, discussed under a stormy and clouded
atmosphere; through those clouds and >storms,:
however, a ray of
,sunshine had at length burst
forth ; let the House then take advantage of the
light which had at last been shed upon them,
and put an end at once to those differences
which had so long existed; above all things,-let
them not throw back that great mass of the- popu-
lation, who., looked to. them for -relief, to the hor-
rors."of gloom and despair;—(Clieers.)
' Mr. BRIGITT and Mr. HART DAVIS supported
the Amendment of Mr. Barflies-
Sir/T. ACKLAND warmly supported the Bill,
regretting at the same time, that he felt himself
obliged so far to differ from a great portion of his
constituents, for whose opinions, upon all occa..--
sions-,:he had the highest respect.
Sir F. BLAKE supported the original motion.
Mr.` GRA N TTA. rose .to express his disapproba-
- tton. of the proposition made by the Member for
Golfe :Castle. -.The arguments of Gentlemen who
opposed the Bill-were not applied' to Catholics of
the'present day,: hut the Roman Catholics of for-
mer times. On the Bill then before the House
depended the harmony and happiness of the Coun-
try. The Hon.. Mover of the Amendment had
made out no case. Had-the Honourable Mem-
ber Thoked into history, he would have found
that: the
.Catholics had formerly done much
for. their Country, and they might reasonably
suppose they would in future do much' more.
The Right _Honourable Member for Liverpool
had. stated in a manly way, that Parliament was
not to he stopped in- its legislation' by the
clamour occasioned by the question who was, or
was not received at Rome. _ They had to • con-
sider whether the Roman Catholics -of Ireland
were not subject to heavy restrictions ittrd laws
which. were .a .disgrace to'Christianity as well as
bernanity. If a man was liable to restrictions in'
ce.ztsequen'T of his religious- feelings,- he could
nit be -said to enjoy- liberty; he was under a
sort_ c 4 persec„igion, which injured. Our -marality.
It was- the .drtti`of the House to . prevent the
ope;ation of: these restrictive laws,, Protestants
and-Catholics should equally participate in civil
rights,: The Hon. Member concluded brexpress
ing a sincere -Ilene that the Bill might pass„t
Mr., T. WILSON supported the Amendment. _
The cries of " Question" becoming generathe Gallery was
cleared; and the House divided—
.. For the Amendment - - 2.11
Against it - ' „211
Majority - 12 •
On -strangers being re-admitted to the Gallery, Mr: Wirxr
was found addressing the House, but from the noise which
prevailed, the nature of his observations could not be collected.
Mr.' PEEL said that he had a most iinPortatit Amendment
t- propose, Which he leas not then prepared to submit to the
House, not having supposed that the clause oh which the House
had just divided.-would have been so soon disposed of. The
nature of his Amendment was to extend the exception which
already existed in the present Bill, respecting the office of Lord
High Chancellor, to the situations of JudgeS, Privy Conn-
. cillors, and Governors of Colonies. The 'Right- Honourable
Gentleman said, that at that late hour the House, perhaps,
would be inclined to postpone the discussion of so very im-
portant an Amendment_wries of go oft, go no,
no.")
Ma. WYNN said, that perhaps the best way would be to
haTe the-clause brought up, and for the Chairman to report
proaress.—Sir G. HILL said a few words.
nr. S; WORT LEY
.cort..x.rre4 Ivith Mr. Peel, as to the ex-