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London, England, 1845-06-14 00:00:00

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LONDON, SATURDAY, JUNE 14, 1845.

The House of Lords met at Five o'clock.

The Earl of ABERDEEN brought down a message
from her MAJESTY, recommending their Lordships to
concur with her in making a provision for Sir HENRY
POTTINGER, by settling on him 1,5001. a year for life.

which message was ordered to be taken into considers
tion on Monday.

A long conversation then ensued on the subject of the
differences between the Rev. Mr. MACKESEY and the
Bishop of CASHEL ; after which,

Ths Marquis of
.CLANRICARDE brought forward the
subject of the Irish policy of the Government. This
gave rise to a discussion, which, however, led to no re-
sult, and their Lordships adjourned at Nine o'clock.
The Speaker took the chair at Four o'clock.
Sir R. PEEL, brought down a Message from her MA-
JESTY, recommending the House to make a provision of
1,5001. a year for Sir H. POTTINGER, which was ordered
to be taken into consideration on Monday next.

Sir JAMES GRAHAM moved that the House do resolve
itself into Committee, in order to vote the grant for the
new colleges in Ireland.

The motion was opposed by Mr. SMITH O'BRIEN,
and a lengthened discussion followed, but the Hon.
Member ultimately withdrew his opposition, when the
House went into Committee of Supply, and Sir JAMES
GRAHAM proposed that the sum of 100,0001. for the esta-
blishment, and 21,000/. for the endowment of the acade-
mical institutions in Ireland should be granted from the
Consolidated Fund, and which, after a brief debate, was
agreed to.

Sir W. H. BARRON then brought under the considera-
tion of the House the state of the Fisheries in Ireland,
which led to a lengthened conversation. At its ter-
mination the House went into Committee on the Ord-
nance Estimates, when several sums were voted for the
public service, and the House adjourned at a Quarter
past One o'clock.

If we may judge froin the accounts lately received
from Ireland, and especially from the speeches made at
the banquet given to Mr. O'CONNELL and the other re-
peal martyrs, on Monday, at Cork, the progress of the
repeal question is becoming every day more rapid, and
on the assembling of the new Parliament at least two-
thirds of the Irish Members will be pledged not
only to repeal, but to a total separation of the
two countries. The former cannot take place without
being followed to a certainty by the latter. These mem-
bers are, in the first place, to abjure attendance on the
Imperial Legislature. They are to devote their labonrs
solely to the business brought before
,the assembly held
in Conciliation-hall, and all who do not obey this new
order, those who cling to the Union, or Federalism,
or any other ism, but patriotism, will become
marked characters, and be held up to indignant Ireland
as Saxons and aliens. Whatever may be said of the
religious feeling, this sentiment of nationality forms the
strongest objection on the part of the repealers to the
Academies' Bill. The Catholic prelates have pro-
nounced the Bill injurious to faith and morals, and
Mr. O'CONNELL joins with Sir ROBERT INGLIS
in denouncing it as a " gigantic scheme of Godless
education ; " but he has another, more sub-
stantial reason for opposing a measure, which in time
might amalgamate Catholics and Protestants—destroy na-
tional prejudices—and make two nations, formed by
nature for friendship, one and indivisible. " Let the
English," said Mr. O'CONNELL, " mix the education
as they like, there shall be no connexion ; we
will spurn the cup from our lips." This is
plain language, and the Government may depend
upon it O'CONNELL will keep his word. No com-
munion between England and Ireland will be en-
dured. If the Irish House of Commons is not held
on College-green as yet, it must be held in Conciliatio❑
Hall till that site is prepared. All Irish business
must be transacted there, and all their decisions
ratified—not, of course, by the Imperia Parlia-
ment and the SOVEREIGN in Council—but by the
voice of the Irish people. In fact, this is another ex-
periment of the same character as the celebrated Clare
election, but the question is—can it have the same suc-
cess? We believe not. The great strength of the
emancipators at that time was to be found in Great
Britain. Majorities in the House of Commons had re-
peatedly declared for Catholic emancipation, and, as in
the case of Mayaooth, with some exceptions we admit,
the first statesmen of both parties rose superior to re-
ligious prepossessions and groundless fears—a very
powerful and intelligent minority supported it in the
House of Lords, and so strong were the united forces,
that this great measure of justice was carried, in apposi-
tion to the most determined obstinacy of the Sovereign,
backed by the bishops, the clergy, and a large
portion of the community. How different is the
cause of repeal ! It contains not one com-
ponent part of the force which carried emanci-
pation, if we except Mr. O'CONNELL and his adherents.
Lords and Commons to a man are not only opposed to
it, but they are prepared to incur every hazard,
to employ every legitimate means, to use, in fact,
the whole strength of the nation in resisting
a scheme which, if carried into effect, would involve the
ultimate ruin of both countries. The Parliament, how-
ever, do not stand alone. They have the cordial sup-
port of the SOVEREIGN and people. The attempt, there-
fore, to carry the measure by peaceable means is hope-
less, and respecting any other means we must observe
a discreet silence ; but the course which the
Government of this country have to pursue,
whether Whig or Tory, Liberal or Conservative, in
order to put down all reasonable demands for repeal, is
clear and defined. Irish grievances must be redressed,
Ireland must be put on a footing with England and Scot-
land, and among the rest of the community we include
the Catholic clergy. When these things are done—
when the union is made a just bond of alliance—then
will repeal be set at rest, and Mr. O'CosiNELL's occupa
tion be gone.

It is pleasing to find so extensive a degree of public
attention awakened to the condition of our national de-
fences, as we find by every day's experience to be the
case. That so little should yet have been accomplished
towards the reparation of fOrts and batteries on the most
vulnerable part of our coasts—and absolutely nothing in
the construction of harbours of refuge—after the reports
of Committees during three successive sessions, is really
some matter of reproach to the Ministry upon whom the
responsibility of making the necessary preparations in
relation to these matters has been so often pressed. It
is rather a specious than a solid defence, to say
that the Government is distracted by the numerous
directions in which the remonstrances of the public,
and the distinctly expressed wishes of the Le-
gislature have been urged upon them. They are
charged with the permanent duty of repairing the im-
provident errors they have committed in the original
construction, and subsequent so-called amendments and
reparations of ships of war, which appear to be built
only for the purpose of being taken to pieces again ; to
be heightened only to be lowered ; to be narrowed only
to be widened again ; to come out in one rate of force
only to be transferred into another. Then it is strenu-
ously insisted that the first arm of our naval force, being
its steam arm, the first employment of the public money
upon our steamers of war should be appropriated to the
removal of their engines below the water line, so as to
be out of the reach of shot in any engagement ; and
this, the rather, as the wise determination to
introduce as much as possible the marvellous
powers of the Archimedean screw and the ship-propeller
afforded excellent opportunities for dismissing the un-
sightly and dangerous excrescences of paddle-boxes and
external wheels at the sides altogether. What must
have added to the segation, no doubt, of these strenu-
ously urged suggestions has been, the conviction that
they are founded in truth. If they had been otherwise,
they would soon have been dismissed from official minds,
accustomed to the methodical erasure equally with the
transitoryi
a
s they may suit hypot h ese s— tmb
e nettehrot ad:: ea di iomr dismissedofexactly the
present purpose of the Government.
Then Sir C. NAPIER and Captain BERKELEY hav
e
tormented the Adtniralty into reluctant admission of the
combined absurdity and peril of sending out the same
ships to sea at different periods—that is in times of peace
and times of war—with different complements of men to
work and manoeuvre them. The whole British Parlia-
ment and people are of opinion that the complement ,
should be the complement"—that is, the complete
in all cases, and under all circumstances, so long

crew;

as the craft is afloat on duty, and has the same guns to
be served and sails to be handled.

Then the Ministers have been sore perplexed with the
irresistible case established for more efficient and pon-
derous armaments, on the one hand, and the total or
partial incapacity of some of our most expensive war-
steamers to carry them, without previous adaptation for
such a charge of metal and calibre, on the other.
This necessity could be still less disputed—
for the Commodore's " unsparing exposition "
cf this " department " of the blunders of our modern
naval architecture had all the force of a mathematical
demonstration. There was no help for it—Ministers
were compelled to pledge themselves, as to this abuse,
to "reform it instantly." More money is thus to be ex-
pended than even the large margin taken fur the navy
estimates of the present year will allow for. But there
was a surplus in the beginning of the session of re-
venue over expenditure, and if there had not been, the
public would never grudge, towards making provision for
the greater efficiency of the navy, a credit to a far
greater extent still. But to all these exigencies we may
add others which were to be immediately met ;
and yet, the fact that they all existed can-
not justify the Government for postponing, so
long, the commencement of a vigorous prosecution
of these great works, the vital, instant, indispen-
sable demand for which could not have been snore
powerfully expressed than by the simple, unaffected, but
decided testimony and opinions elicited from the Duke
of WELLINGTON when under examination as a witness.
It is, however, of little moment who or what has consti-
tuted the cause of this delay. The essential point to be
forced upon the Government is, that it be no longer
suffered to intervene. At what hour the peril may be
realised no man can foretel; but every man will hold
that Government responsible for the consequences,
which is not—after the Reports of Select Committees,
the evidence of witnesses of the first professional and
scientific distinction in Europe, and the emphatically
expressed wish of the Legislature—fully prepared to
encounter that peril, how formidable or various soever it
may prove. If the estuary of the Thames, on the
breaking out of some unfortunate hostilities in Europe,
should be still in that unprotected condition which the
Duke of WELLINGTON showed would in such a case of
circumstances prove absolutely destructive to the whole
commerce of Lond,m, the CHANCELLOR of the EXCLIE•
QUER, to whose reluctance to make provision for the ex-
penses of such forts and harbours of refuge as have been
proposed, the utter stagnation of all exertions in that
direction is attributed, will find himself in no enviable
position. How long is the construction of these har-
bours, the erection of the block-houses, and other
forts ors our southern coasts, which the Duke has
so pointedly recommended, to be postponed ? We
shall endeavour to show in a further paper on this sub-
ject in what respect we may most usefully improve upon
the system adopted by the French Government fur
manning the navy, and upholding the service in a con-
dition of—not temporary, but—permanent efficiency.
This object cannot be accomplished without a greatly
enhanced charge for the provision, maintenance, and
further encouragement of our able seamen, which this
country ought long ago to have extended to them. On the
same occasion we propose criticising one or two remark-
able papers of suggestions for the external defence of
our coasts and our colonies which have lately been pro-
mulgated, and from which we shall derive matters tend-
ing remarkably to corroborate the views we have from
time to time submitted in reference to considerations so
intimately connected with the welfare of this empire—so
rashly, as we think, put in abeyance, for a term the
longer or shorter duration of which no human foresigh
can, from any given moment, determine.

Accounts from Madrid of the sth state that the abdi-
cation of Don CARLOS, and the manifesto of his son,
were received by the Government on the previous day,
and in the course of the evening a Cabinet Council was
held, but the result did not transpire. After the break-
ing up of the Council the Minister of Marine left for
Barcelona. The Herald() publishes the documents, and
remarks that humanity and justice required a different
conduct from the august exiles—meaning an uncondi-
tional abdication. The QUEEN was to sleep at Tortosa
on the 3d.

The Three per Cents. closed at 31 3-16 for cash, and
32i. at 60 days ; the Five per Cents. at 214 at 60 days;
and the Debt without Interest at 7 at 60 days.

We gave yesterday the substance of M. GUIZOT'S
speech, in the Chamber of Deputies, on the foreign rela-
tions of France, and find little in the papers of any im-
portance which we can add to it. With regard to Spain
he had not much to say. The abdication of Don CARLOS
would make no change in the policy of France. The
Sovereign of Spain is still Queen IsAnELLA—there is—
there can be no other. As respects the marriage, it
is essentially a Spanish question, and Spain must judge
and act for herself. "Spain," said he, "remained
perfectly free as to the question of marriage, but we

continue to have confidence in her prudence, and we

believe that she comprehends that the marriage ought to
draw still more closely her tie of connexion with France
of July." As to the right of search, he said the treaty
of 1841, which was ready for signature but never had
been signed, was not his work. It was not he who had
prepared it. For the part he had taken in the new con •
vention he claimed some merit. The Opposition said it
had been slowly conducted, but," he added, " it had
been necessary to conduct the negotiations leisurely, and
to point out that they were the real wish of the nation,
and likely to be efficacious f,r the suppression of the
slave-trade. He would repeat what he had several
times said, that from the very first day that he had taken
the subject seriously into consideration, he had never
ceased occupying himself with it. It had been for
some time past the custom to say, whenever their
foreign relations were aliuded to, that the Govern-
ment had humiliated and sacrificed the country; but he
would most positively deny that France had, under the
Government of July, and particularly under the present
Cabinet, lost any of her influence abroad. Let them go
to foreign countries, and they would hear their Govern-
ments and their inhabitants declare that the power and
influence of France was, on the contrary, increasing
every day."

The Journal des Debats thus briefly adverts to the
speech of M. GUIZOT and the new treaty :

" After an absence of two months, M. Guizot made his re-ap-
pearace in the tribune, and obtained one of the most brilliant of the
successes which have distinguished his career as a statesman and an
orator. The Opposition itself seemed for the moment to subdue
its passions, that it might give itself up to the pleasure of listening
to his eloquent voice. Did M. Billault wish to furnish M. Guizot
a triumph ? If so, we owe our best thanks to the honourable
Member of the Left Centre. His intention must have been
fully gratified, and even, perhaps, beyond his hopes. We shall
confine ourselves to-day to being simple reporters. After
giving the speech of M. Guizot, what is left for us to do ? At
the opening of the sitting the Minister of the Marine presented
the Bill for granting the extraordinary credit required for car-
rying into execution the treaty which replaces the right of
search. The reasons for the Bill are accompanied by the text
of the treaty and the instructions which e,xplain its spirit and
meaning. We publish these important documents. Let
us be permitted to make a single remark. Not six months
ago, one of the greatest statesmen of the country, Count
Mole, declared in the Chamber of Peers, that he could find no
substitute for the right of search. Count Mole treated as a chi-
mera the hope of going back from the treaties of 1831 and 1833.
This chimera, however, has already become a reality. These late
negotiations, which could not then be thought of, have produced a
result which was believed to be impossible. The treaties of 1831
and 1833 exist no longer. The right of search is abolished. M.
Guizot has kept his promises, and the wish of the Chamber id ful-
filled ; for our merchant ships will be henceforth replaced under
the exclusive superintendence of the tri-coloured flag."

The Constitutionnel says the statement which appeared
in the Revue de Paris, announcing that Admiral
DUPETIT THOUARS had been appointed to the command
of the preventive squadron on the African coast is
without the slightest foundation. Rear-Admiral DE
MOGES was appointed to that post at the Council held
on Sunday, and Captain BRUAT is to be the second in
command. The Akbar of Algiers states that on the 2d
inst. Marshal BUGEAUD had an engagement with the
Arabs near Orleansvllle, and defeated them, killing 50,
capturing 150, and taking a considerable quantity of cattle.
The squadron of evolution, under the command of Admiral
PARSEVAL DESCHAINES, was getting ready in the road-
stead of Toulon on the 7th. It is to consist of the fol-
lowing vessels :—The Ocean, Captain JACQUENOT, with
the flag of Admiral PARSEVAL; Inflexible, Jemmapes,
Alger, Diademe, Marengo, Triton, Neptune, the frigate
Belle Poule, and the steam-frigate Oriinoque.

The Three per Cents. closed on the Paris Bourse on that
day at 84f. 20c. ; the New Loan, at 841. 50c.; the Five per
Cents. at 1221. 35c. ; Orleans Railroad Shares 1,217 f. 50c. ;
Rouen, 1,1071. 50c.; Vierzon, 815 f.; Havre, 890 f.;
Avignon, 1,0451. ; Basle 273 f. 75c.; Spanish Actives,
39 ; Ditto Passives, 7%.
The following are the quotations for the new lines:—

Orleans and Bordeaux, 220 f. premium ; Boulogne, 120 f.
ditto ; Troyes and llontereau, 551. 50c. ; Paris and Lyons
(Laffitte), 20f. ; ditto (Calon), It'. 50c. ; ditto (Ganneron),
If. 50c.; Northern line (Laffitte), 35f. ; ditto (Ro-
samel), Bf. 50c. ; Tours and Nantes (Mackenzie), 9f. 501. ;
ditto (Drouillard), par; ditto (O'Neill), 7f.50c ; ditto (Jacques
Lefevre), par; Lyons and Avignon (I.ecointe), 201. ; ditto
(Talabot), 40f. ; ditto (Com pagnie Meridionale), 20f.;
Bordeaux and Toulouse (Mackenzie), 61. 25c. ; ditto and
Cette (Espeleta), 16f. 25c; Creil and St. Quentin, if. 50c. ;
Paris and Strasburg (Ganneron), I lf. 25c; Dijon and Mul-
hausen, If. 50c.

RELEASE OF MR. CA RUS WILSON. —We have re-
ceived an extract of a letter from Jersey, dated Wed-
nesday, June i i which brings information that the civic
authorities had held a long consultation on the
Case of Mr. Wilson. Several of them contended that
they had entered on a process of which they could
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prevailed, the decision was forwarded to the gaoler, and
on Wednesday at three o'clock that gentleman was set
at liberty.

ASCOT RACES.

The Ascot races are over ; they were, we believe, the
most brilliant upon record. We wish we could add that
the managers had acted in accordance with the royalty
of the sport—it was far otherwise. Insult, either im-
plied or intended, was dealt out moat liberally to the
conductors of the London press. We hope that Lord
Rosslyn has too much respect for his order to war-
rant or countenance such misconduct ; and yet the
underlings or officials placed at the several gates, acting
under his assumed orders, behaved in the most imperti-
nent manner, and seemed as if they had been placed there
by accident, from some of the neighbouring livery
stables. We hope, if' we may venture to trespass
upon the courtesy of the managers of Ascot Races'
nest year we may be treat( d with that civility which we
readily accord to others, and sl hich we have a right to
expect for ourselves ; we acquit Lord Rosslyn of any in-
tentional insult. But, if he Undertake to manage the
sports of the dsy, we hope he %via have inure civil and
efficient officers on the next occasion. At the same time we
most freely admit, that the authorities and managers of
race• courses, arid other places of public resort, are fre-
quently imposed upon by persons representing themselves
as influentially connected with the public press, and claim
ing position and privileges to which they arc by no means
entitled. This is a nuisance in the management of such
places, which we are most anxious to suppress ; but still
we claim for the press that courtesy and attention to
which it is fairly entitled, and the fall and free exercise
of the privileges which, though sometimes abused, arc
universally admitted.—[En. Sun.]

THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY MORNING, JUNE 14, 1845.

I INSURANCE COMPANIES.
Dividend Amount
Name of Company. per of Paid. Price.
Annum. Share.
£ s. d. £ s. d.
Albion
Alliance Brit and For. 6 per cent. 100 0 0 11 0 0 `..'o
Ditto Marine. • ..... 61. per cent, 100 0 0 50 0 6%
Atlas 13s. 6d. pr Mi. 50 0 0 5 0 0 17
British Commercial .. 7s. per share 50 0 0 5 0 0 7
clericl,Med.&Gen.Life 51. per cent. 100 0 0 210 1 6%
3/. 100 0 0 10 0 0
Crown .. •-•••• • • • • • • f 9s. and
N. ss. bs. j I
40 0 0 5 0 0 10
Eagle • Os. 50 0 0 A 0 0 5%
Economic Life .••• • . • • glrorsebts"} 1000 0 0 250 0 0
Eng. & Scot. Law Life.. 51. per cent. 50 0 0 20 0 3
European Life •••• • • • • 51,4 per cent. 20 0 0 All paid. 20
Freemasons' •.. • 51.1)u" cent. 20 0 0 3 0 0
Globe - 143
Guardian
Imperial Fire •••• • • • • 12/. per cent. 500 0 0 50 0 0 200
Imperial Life... .. .... 12s. 100 0 0 10 0 0 16%
Indemnity Marine •• • • It. sh. & be. 100 0 0 513 1 29%
Law Lifd ........ •• • • It. ss. 100 0 0 10 0 0 453/
Legal and General Life - 50 0 0 20 0 6%
London Fire ••••• • • • • 10s. 25 0 0 12 10 0 15%
London Ship . 10s. 25 0 0 12 10 0 15%
Marine ........ ••• • • • 5/. per cent. 100 0 0 15 0 0 10%
Med. Invlid & Gen. Life - 50 0 0 2 0 0 3
National Loan Fund• • 51. per cent. 20 0 0 210 0 2%
National Life.
Palladium Life ••.• • . • • 5/. per cent. 50 0 0 20 0 2%
Phoenix . 3/. p. ct. & bs. - - 195
Protector Life• •••• • • • 5/. per cent. 20 0 0 1 0 0 11. 2s.
Provident Life •• • .
Rock life •••••• • • • • • • 4s. 50 0 010 0 4%
Royal Exchange .... • • Si. per cent. Stock. - 188
Sun Fire • • ... •• • • • • • 6/. 10s. - -
Ditto Life . 1/. Os. - -
Universal Life •••• .. • 10%1. pr ent. 100 0 615 0 14

. DOCKS.
Dividend i Amount
Name of Company. per 1 of I Paid. Price,
Annum. , Share.
Oommercial •• •• • • ••• 3/. per cent. j 4St:c.lcd.. .4
5.
d.
-----
i.ast and West India... 4,h/ pr cent.' Stock. 140
East Country ••.•• •• .1 11. sh. 100 0 0 21
London ..
41,/. pr cent.' Stock. 118
St Katharine .• •• •• •• I 5 per cent. I Stock. : 109
Southampton ••

LIST OP SCOTTISH COMPANIES' PRICES.
Dividend Amount
Name of Company. per of raid. Price
Annum. Share.
X s. d. £ c",
Bank of Scotland ••. • • 61. per cent. 100
Royal Bank of Scotland 6/. per cent. 100 0 0 17
British Linen Company fit per cent. 100 0 0 228%
Commercial Bank •• • • 6/. per cent. 100 0 0 170
National Bank 6/. per cent. 10 0 0 16
Union Bank of Scotland 7 %1. pr cent. 50 0 0 98%
Western Bank..
North of Scotland Bank 61. per cent. 5 0 0 7
Clydesdale Bank ••• • .. 6/. per cent. 10 0 0 15%
Eastern Bank •• • .
Caledonian Bank
Edinb.& Cdasgew Bank 51. per cent. 50 o 711
City of Glasgow Bank . 5/. per cent. 815 0 15
Scottish Union Ins. Co. 51. per cent. 20 0 0 10 0 14
Hercules Insurance Co. 71. per cent. 100 0 0 10 0 0 14%
Insur. Co. of Scotlnd• • 5/. per cent. 10 0 0 All paid. 10
North British Insur 9/. per cent. 200 0 0 10 0 0 28
Caledonian Fire Insur lOl. per cent. 100 0 0 10 0 0 24
Edinburgh Life Insur 6/. per cent. 100 0 0 10 0 0 19
Edin. &Glasg. Railway 51. per cent. 50 0 0 50 0 0 69
Ditto, % Shares 5/. per cent. 12 10 0 All paid. 19
Edin., Leith, & Grantn 20 0 e 20 0 0 1534
Glasgw & Ayrshir Rail. 5/. per cent. 50 0 0 All paid. 66%
Waspy & Greenck Rail. 2/. per cent. 2:5 0 0 All paid. 19
Glsgw &Garnkirk Rail. Si. per cent. 15 0 e All paid. 37%
Dundee & Arbroth Rail. 5/. per cent. 25 0 0 All paid. 36.
StanclardLifeAssurnce. i Si. per cent. 50 0 0 210 0 I 8

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