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London, England, 1828-10-24 00:00:00

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We have made the amplest arrangements. for
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...Plug the fullest, strictest, and most impartial
4tetlllnt of the very extraordinary meeting held
Ni day on Penenden Heath ; the bare mention
•°' which • . .
......",0 is agitating the kingdom from one end
'..W. l'• 1,„ ,o, the other. By the numerous placards which
Juneo4,„ . will be found below, it will be seen that for miles
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the oh, 4.01,,,.'1(1 party spirit that it calls forth are unprece-
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~. . CIVIL. AND RELIGIOUS LIBERTY.
tti , 'nit FOLLOWING LETTERS', RY SIR. JOHN I%IAXWELL
4w......yrieti TYLDEN, ARE SUBMITTED TO THE CONSIDERATION
ailed the ", Op THE MEN OF KENT.
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of oeP-e, foORr 1 TO TILE RIGHT HON. LORD HARRIS.
11 . Sili!eU 11 ttn' lan7Loen_ln common with every friend to Catholic
' t.,t • , 41.1 "Patton, [ ant obliged to you for the letter you have
1 of SgP do • ..,t to the lts Gof lat Friday, as it is some-
arOughere zii7g tangible,enti
,nand gives azette
me a fair opportunity of advo-
rhe
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~ , to!g, as far as I urn able, the just cause of Civil and
• , • age, i,0,.1,!!0.tis Liberty; but I certainly regret that a man of
If me' ogoll iiiotir high honour and religious principles should view this
iced II isilel. 4 !BelHORs subject in the way you do, particularly as your
Lijibitik • , rift will have great weight with all those who do not
. 0.,n0e to think for themselves, and the greater part of the
-.wed
he, . 11)1,,ents of Emancipation are of this class. However,
[ art
plc ,):11-,°rd, you have sent an opinion forth into the world,
ie 240 wo 4,4l..tii!.ut.o:gbheeint contains scarcely more argument than has
r-loggeu' 'jai' still, coming from you, it de-
theerevir . ko tia, a reply. Hitherto there has been more noise
V •'' 'leelarnation than argument—" Vox et praterea
le to . tact .
ly late „m I', --and for this reason have such persons as
1"t• Veils, and Sir John Brydges, been left without
tatePlYs Most unintentionally on their part. They
wivte been of the greatest service to the cause they
l
4.2" ed to injure, for their violence has awakened many in-
s
shed
people, and their ridiculous expressions and vaunt-
, .14eLthrpoti only created disgust. But we know you, my Lord,
r-aiaue'as homourable a man as you are a good soldier, and
e t Yap would be the last 'person in the world to wish to
tMade up tq your knees" in the blood of your fellow Chris-
-43, Or to stir up the worst passions of mankind, till it
atfollowed by discord and civil war. I have nut the honour
,f
,i; Owing these two gentlemen who made themselves so
.4.antunately conspicuous at the Alaidstone meeting, but I
:4ttnt have so bad au opinion of their hearts as to suppose
, ~rY Seriously wished for the evils their heads impelled
i'int tosolicit. You, my Lord, know, full well what the
~,
ttioltrors of war are in an enemy's country. God forbid you
.41(.41 ever, in your old age, see them in your own, and in
-is !Viol' 1 am sure you will cordially join me, for though
h! may differ as to the means, I am convinced we have
A, ii()tt .the haute object in view, namely, the safety,- happi-
-34,...,4 0;;‘ • es% and Welfare of our country.
pa`se""-- otit'. )41 1',,4' say that " The great and universal question is,
tnusgs ' yd' r,
n'tner we are to be allowed our Proteatant Church and
se;.,4o'
~. '-otit stitutiou, or whether we shall give them up again, and
0 ;
n]°
tae under the See of Rome." If it had. really
1,!:"."--"' is -,50,2,(1, to this point, toy Lord, neither your efforts nor mine
• it,,,aPrevent it, and for this plain reason—a
.majority of
i
e aristocracy of the country, and a vast majority of the
tple, must then he Catholic. I seriously ask you, is
tlll4,alikelY to happen ? Do you suppose that a minority in
a:l9th century will be able to effect what they could not
et tyhen they woes a majority in the 16th wittily ? I ant
• Na two
ain, my Lord, you must have too good an opinion of
„(,*.ttvo Houses of Parliament, to suppose that the passing
-s:)tt,llnlic Emancipation, and admitting, ea y 15 Peers and
c, `-'olntnoners into Parliament, would have the effect of
-.f4itlkvetting a. majority of the two houses to the- Catholic
10,_..1) and as surely you must have too good an opinion of
'''"a reformed religion, to suppose for a moment that any
plaran of common sense who had been educated •‘ a real
',...°t!stant," would return back to the creed of our
2• '"ceotors.. •
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gn,,144; my Lord, at the conclusion to which we must
ti"'e, if you conceive it possible that Catholic Emancipa-
-4.°4 can overthrow the Constitution. It requires—first,
insjority in both Houses of Parliament; anti secondly, a
majority of
the country.. To obtain this majority, a large
JortiOn of the most wealthy, learned, and influential people
4 the Kitagdom must become Catholic, and our Clergy
• moat alsoluve become so supine, or so weak in argument
. t!id knowledge, that they are not able to oppose any bar-
' thlitt to the conversions daily taking place. All this must
, my Lord, to en
able the Catholic population to sup-
Siltr the Protestant—arid if it was so—that is, if the
. 4.4l:jority was Catholic, I do not hesitate to say they
there
to supplant the Protestant, for in all countries
;re can be no peace or security to the people unless
,•;`,l°te who are the most wealthy,
.learned,and influen-
i'a!, obtain what they consider their just rights. But I
"I qitite confident that you do not for a moment suppose,
ilrherthe arguments in favour of the reformed religion, or the
tellects of those who follow it, so weak as to admit the
lour'
of this taking place. What then becomes of
11°Inr assertion and that of the opponents of Emancipation,
•cSt the Constitution is in danger from the proposed naea-
te? It falls completely to the' ground ; but if entanci-
!'tion be longer withheld, danger of the most serious kind
hill inevitably result. This is no longer doubtful or pro-
a, nnttical, and I would proveit to your satisfaction, did
"!esttent of my letter allow it, or could I suppose that
11,1 r Lordship required it, for you must be convinced that
thelaad cannot remain as it now is, and that one of two
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h 11; first is an easy remedy, and is surely worth the
'al. From the time when Strongbow first landed in
elandto the preSent day, the country has only been held
4 military tenure—the Union has been any thing but
aye measures must have long been tried, and
failed; why then object to the experiment of concili-
ttig ,of mild remedies, instead of harsh, cruel, and io-
cng ones. For argument's sake we will suppose these
y not succeed ; are we in a worse, can Ireland be in a
,:tse -state ? and should we not have the same means at
tditPosal we now have if force must be used ? and could
kdot he done as well after as before emancipation ? But,
fiord, should it succeed, should it tranquillize Ireland,
tot‘
since re there even among the moat bigotted who would
ly rejoice at the consummation of an event so
arajae ?
h
to thesecond remedy, I trust tere are e men
1,4481/ hearts are so black as to wish it .tried ; buftw even if
Were trie4, could it be carried into effect ? It is easier
about coming to blows, and wading up to one's
;7” in blood, than to he actually concerned in such an
quristian warfare ; and if there really are people who
k;tak this the only remedy, I am sure you will agree with
iota
soldier, that they would be the first to shrink
the ruin and devastation they had occasioned.
Yo
u remark, my Lord, that " every Protestant must, if
klreflects, feel the horror of being deprived the liberty of
ring his God as he has been taught, and as he feels it his
ZY to do." In this sentiment I cordially agree with you,
41 I only claim for the Catholic, the freedom I love, and
liberty I enjoy. I would" do as I would be done by,"
I'6l Inever would consent to allow my religious opinions
t,p' deprive me of my civil rights. Would you, my Lord ?
s Sty one, even the most ultra of those who oppose
Eman-
ratcou ? I can anticipate your answer ; and I say that
11 good Christian and a Protestant you ought to grant
allocipation, if you wish to obey that most beautiful of
precepts—or still further to obey our Saviour's
whe preached—" on earth peace, good-will to
trien.ll
Lordship has afterwards unfortunately hazarded
susertion, which you cannot substantiate by prof; you
th," that the wish of the Catholics, and the very spirit of
sZt religion, is to dictate to all others." That such is
is the spirit of the Catholic religion, I do not hesitate
qffirni ; and I appeal to any one who has given himself
iloOrouble to investigate it, if I am not right ; but I do
t deny that it is the feeling of all hierarchies, and I
14( Viah the Protestant Hierarchy was free from this
set,!' • Neither, my Lord, have you any ground for as-
to 71g that is " the wjsh" of the great body of Catholics
dictate" to their Proteetant fellow-subjects. One
f:4 know; the motives of the heart. Man must judge
to *4ln from his actions, bat if we can judge from the
I, and statements sent forth by the most respectable
budge the Catholics, we have no tight to come to that
kojii444ol). I have just said that the Almighty alone can
i4O PM' hearts. May all those .he as pure who oppose
"aid • •
oki, know many of our Catholic brethren
1, be, pal
I tiyi
ve known, my Lord, many Catholics of all coun.
Cdt and I can confidently say I have met with utasy
honourable, and upright men—and are the whole
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la be stigmatized as oppressive and dictatorial, be-
in tittles long since gone by, the Catholic reliTon
ll:16,!nalle a pretext for bad men to carry on their designs?
se-o,„ilve dn. not live in the slays of Mary or James the
and it is as impossible for ns to recede t. that
cr for the progress of knowledge and liberal feeling
t's:rirttatded, as for an infant to arrest the almost min.
`.lloWer of steam,
InnW hasten to conclude this letter, which _I fear has
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'nle.too long; but, though I despair of,convincing all