The Sun.
London, England, 1828-11-14 00:00:00

CATHOLIC ASSOCIATION.

(Abridged front the Dublin Tvlorn. Register of Nyednesday.)
There was an extremely numerous attendance at
the Corn-Exchange yesterday. During the early
part of the proceedings Mr. Sheii was present ; he
appeared to be in excellent health and spirits. 0,
the Learned Gentleman's entrance, he was greeted,
with shouts of acclamation; every man in the room
rose, and joined with enthusiasm in the expression
of the general joy. Major Macnamara was also pre-
sent at the meeting.
CHRISTOPHER FITZSIMON, Esq., was called to the Chair.

. Mr. Smyth was appointed Secretary.
Mr. J. DwYER took the liberty of calling the at-
tetitiori of the Liberal Press to the proceeding?' at .a
dinner recently given to Mr. Wyse, by the citizens
of Waterford. On that occasion Mr. Thomas Scott,
a highly rePectable and influential Protestant gentle
metyliad come forward and declared that a crisis
had arrived when every man should take a part in
public affairs; and although he was the agent of the
Bank of Ireland in Waterford, he felt that the coun-
try was placed in such a perriloits state by the Bruns-
wickers, that he had no hesitation in avowing his
determination- of becoming a Member of the Asso:
elation, and accordingly his subscription has been re-
ceived by Mr. Dwyer. (Hear.) Three English
Protestant gentlemen, who -happened to be present,
became converts to the cause of liberality, and their
subscriptions had been forwarded. (Heat)
Mr. LAWLESS rose to • propose a motion, which
he was certain would be carried with acclamation;
and he expected that regarding it all forrins and
technicalities would be dispensed with. He had to
propose a resolution, that a public dinner should be
given to Richard Sheil. (Enthusiastic cheering.)
Hewas glad that Mr. Sheil -was not in the room,
hecause his presence would prevent him -from. ex-
pressing the feelings excited in his mind by that
gentleman's splendid speeches on Penenden Heath,
and at the dinner given him in :the London Tavern.
Those speeches were more pregnant with solid ad-
vantages to Ireland than any others ou record.—
(Cheers.) For 'many years the Catholics had been
4ntleavouring to disabuse the people Of England of
unfounded prejudices regarding their creed ; but
the full blaze of Shell's mighty mind reflected
through the British. Press, had. accomplish-
ed more than all the • former efforts of the ad-
vocates of liberality. The . arguments and the
reasoning advanced: by. Mr. Sheil could never be
answered, but by the emancipation the Ca-
tholics. (Hear, hear.) The Catholics of Ireland
should show the stupid ruffians of Penenden Heath,
by a special mark of their gratitude to Mr. Shell,
how, they felt towards him, for the triumph which he
had achieved over fanaticism and infuriate bigotry.
(Cheers.) Mr. Sheil had also enabled them to dis-
tinguish between their friends and foes; and they all
knew Cobbett now. (Hear, hear.). There was not.
on record so bese.an abandonment of principle as had
been:exhibited, by his conduct at Penenden Heath;
and although he had rendered some,' services to Ire-
land by. his. History of the Reformation, he should
for ever be: regarded with execration,. unless he ex-
piated the damnable offence of which he had been
guiity,, by:devoting. the remainder of hie life to the
advaneement of the principles which, at Penenden
Heath, lie had endeavoured—vainly endeavoured,
to decry and defeat. (Hear.) Mr. Lawless. con-
cluded by gloving the following resolutions :
" That we have read with sentiments of the liveliest ad-
miration, the two late splendid efforts of our eloquent
countryman, Richard Sheil, Esq. at Penendtn Heath and
the 'London Tavern ; and to demonstrate our high sense
of the high value we place on those exertions—we Leteby.
agree to invite our triumphant advocate to a public dinner,
on such day as will be most convenient.to him.

" That our Chairman be- instructed to write to Lord
Cloncurry, requesting that excellent Nobleman to take the
chair on this occasion ; and Mr. O'Connell be requested to
act as vice-president."
Mr. O'CONNELL seconded the first resolution,
and pronounced a brilliant eulogium on the late
speeches of Mr. Shell. It was a subject of pride to
the Catholic body to have such a man amongst
them ; and nothing could more clearly • expose the
vile system of exclusion than that simple fact, that
Mr. Shell was rendered by the law inferior. to the
lowest arid basest Brunswicker. (Hear,. bear.)---
But the system could not•long continue, for there
was power enough in the mind of Mr. Shell himself
to break the degrading shackles.- It was a matter
of regret that when Mr. Lawless introduced the sub-
ject, he had mixed with it the contamination. of
Cobbett's name, which was synonymous with all
that was low, mean, base, fraudulent, and pettyfog-
ging. (Hear, hear.) But he was as impotent as
vicious; and the turpitude of his intentions was
only equalled by his total inability to . carry
them into effect, or to influence by there the con-
duct of others. (Hear, hear.) He wished to take
that opportunity of contradicting a statement in a
published lettet.of Mr. Hunt, that he (Mr. O'Con-
nell) had asserted that Mr. Shell was not a reformer ;
he never said so. (Hear, hear.) Regarding Mr.
Hunt he, should say more, but. that he bad been• in-
formed by a friend in England, that he was really
friendly to reform. Great injury had been done by
the squabbles of the radical reformers in England ;
and it was much to be desired that they would imi-
tate the Association by meeting together, and coolly
deliberating on the measuresimost proper to advance
their cause. The enemies of the country were
united, and why should the friends of freedom be
scattered ?
When putting the question on the first resolu-
tion, the Chairman expressed his hearty concurrence
with its object. It.was then put and carried with
acclamation.
The second resolution, regarding the selection of
a President and Vice-President, was po4tponed to
next Tuesday. •
Mr. O'CoNNELL, M.P. rose amidst loud cheers.
The first subject fOr our Consideration is the Aggre-
gate Meeting. (Hear, hear.) Parliament does not
meet this year, as the prorogation does not state that
its next meeting will be for the despatch of busi-
ness; it will, hoWever, Most probably meet in
February, but whenever it does, we should be pre-
pared with our petitions. (Hew-, hear.) The people
of Monaghan are in the most frightful state in conse-
quence of the conduet of the blood-hounds The
people there, however, haVe been in some degree
traequillized with the promise of the protection of
the late, and they shall have it., (Hear, and cheers.)
I have been told that the King's troops are about to
march to Monaghan--all the people desire is the
protection of the King's troops. (Hear.) In what-
ever comity they may be stationed the people rest
satisfied that the gentlemen who command, and
the briye and disciplined soldiers who obey them,
will protect • them from , outrage or insult, on
the part of the BithisWieker or blood-hound.,
(Hear, hear.) We are about to give the protee-•
lion of the laws to the persecuted Catholics; we will
not only institute criminal prosecutions, but shall
also annoy the oppressors of the people by civil ac-.
tions. I know no better means of vexing an Orange-
man and-'a persecutor than an attorney and a latitat.
--(Hear and latighter.)—l know not either a better
Means of • preventing the, recurrence of 'outrage
7 Before this dahyeymonth fifty in-
adgitaiidnissitaltshNeviplleobpere'sued civil actions for Orange
outrag
kennel °o:t7t(lileiert'h' of November, in Dheebildina. ; Rutb
u t
what There were four or five
Peers ; but what kind of Peers were they,? They
as it composed of ? •
had, to be sure, Lords Glandine anthßatlith:trvatid,
and some one of the Trenches; called Lord Dunlo,
I don't know. whether Lord Blayney was there
there was Lord Longford, who quarrelled With his
own brother, because he. changed his sentiments On
the Catholic question, and would not change his
principles to Suit his interest. They had these Lords
amongst them ; but had they the wealth, and pro-
perty, and rank. of the Peerage ? I forgot Lord
Aldborough; he stole out of my recollection. There
, were amongst them seven Irish representatives Out
of the one hundred. Can any thing more cm-
, phatically• announce the state of the party, than that
they could only get even out of all the boroughs,
seven desperadoes r Aut Ilo>r otiaed c 9 cough Rho

other 93 for ua ? They have but seven Irish Mem-
bers of Parliament, and of them there are but three
or four County Members, and these shall not again
be so. In Fermanagh and Cavan, preparations have
been made,. and we shall, please God, shake three
or four out at the next election.--(Hear, and loud
cheers.) In rising thus to address you, and perform
my duty, I shall be obliged to trespass at some length
upon your time,--7(Hear, and loud cheers.) Ido
not rise for the -purpose of display, nor shall my
exertions be confined; to a single speech; I rise for
the purpose of recommending, a series of measures.
for your adoption, and among the first is the
organising of the freeholders in the counties of
Fermanagh and Cavan, for the purpose of taking
from the representation of Ireland four out- of
the seven who attended thes'Brunswiek meeting
in Dublin. We are told by the Newspapers of that
party, that they were." delegates ;" that was against
the law, and I am glad to see Orangemen violate the
law. It as an admirable precedent for us, when we
shall have to repeal the Union by the bye; when
our emancipation will be granted, and when men
will not inquire what is the religion of the other ;
but what can each effect most advantageous to the
Country ?—(Hear, and loud cheers.)—At the Bruns-
wick meeting sundry speeches were made, and in•
them all you will not undone particle of genius, one.
splendid thought, or even handsome. phraseology.
lam a hacknied arguer—l shall not speak of the
brilliant displays of. eloquence by Mr. Shed; but
from every side
.there flashes on us the sparkling
• gems of genius—imagery;.poetry, fancy, all forming
a wreath and a circle of glory round the fallen for--
tunes of Ireland.—(Cheers.)—But I turn to the
meeting of the Brunswick Club,iand ask what be-
side the making of the miserable speeches did they
do ? Was, their attention directed to the im-
sroyenaeot of the country ? Did. they seek to
promote, commerce or, manufacture, except in-
deed the manufacture of cutting throats ?—(Laugh-
ter and cheers.)—Did they seek to encrease agricul-
tural produee, or give additional means of employ-
ment to the poor, or in any way to better the con-
dition of the people ? (Hear.) There. was not one
single particle of all these touched upon by them.
(Hear.) Were they assembled for purposes of
utility ? If any man had the misfortune which I
had, of reading through the different speeches made
at that meeting, and which I was obliged to do, in
order to remark upon them, he would find that all
the speeches were the same— they first said that they
• were not our enemies—next that our throats should
be cut in their defence, and then they ended with the
cry of "no surrender." (Laughter.) Colonel Co-
nolly spoke of the march of intellect, and there
was a cry of down with it—and then he spoke of
O'Connell, and there was a cry. of down with him.
I feet mueh obliged for the compliment that was thus
paid to me by coupling my name with the " march
of intellect." (Cheers.) But if " intellect" were
on the march, it should indeed make a long counter-
inarch before it could reach the worthy Colonel
Conolly. But they are quite right in crying
out "down with the march of intellect," for unless
intellect be completely extinct; they can never remit'
the ascendancy of which they have been so lengm-
justly possessed. , (Cheers.) The next speech
worthy Of particular observation was that made by
the Member for Dublin. He said lie was a lover of
liberty; I believe he is, for he *took great liberties
with the Catholics, and still greater with history.
(Laughter.) He said he would not allow the Ca-
tholics- freedom, because the Catholic religion was
found inconsistent with political liberty. Now,
this gentleman has his one thousand a-year, a sine;
cure of which he takes particulal care, and he also
belongs to what is called "a learned profession,"
and he really ought to learn a little of history.--
The next speech was by a Mr. Martin, and was,
in my opinion, nothing but paltry doggrel—the
merest nonsence ever strung together, and nothing
but a thread-bare repetition of Phelan and Mortagh
O'Sullivan. By the bye I would call on some of
my young friends to look to the newspapers and
they will thud that at the time we used to meetin
Fishamble-street, a speech in favour of Emancipa-
tion was made by Mortagh O'Sullivan, or his brother
—but the truth is the speech of the Junior. Fellow
meant this—my chambers are empty--Brunswickers
send me your children, in order that I may educate
them—it was a mere advertisement.—(Laughter.)
—The worthy fellow rung a bell for his pupils, and
it was disgraceful to the present period to think that
call- would be attended to. Oh, it will be a happy
period of my life, and I think it is fast approach-
ing, when a rival college will be instituted.—
(Loud cheers.)—That would be my next ambition,
to having a code -of laws that would be clear' and
intelligible, which -mould make the administration
of law cheap, and its decisions expeditious. We
must have the Rent collected in every county in
Ireland. Five,individuals must undertake to report
how the rent is collected in the county ; they will
be responsible for every fifth week. We must per-
severe in our exertions for libertywe must estab-
lish liberal clubs—we most proceed with the re-
gistering of freeholds—we must also have our simul.
taneous meetings and petitions from every parish or
the Sub-letting Act and the Vestry Act.—(Cheers.:
It is most probable that the Sub-letting Act
will be repealed in the next Session of Parliament.
Having now discussed the affairs of Ireland, I turn
to those of England, but before I do so, I must
crave the indulgence of the meeting while I throw
away two or three remarks on Dr. Magee. It seems
he has sent 1001. to the Brunswickers • that is, we
are told he has. I ern not sure of the faet. (A
laugh.) • I wish we could appoint a committee to
report upon it. (Laughter.). I think if we could
it would turn out that he has not sent it at all, or
at all events that he has got all the rectors of the
diocese, and even 'the curates, especially those who
are so amply provided for out of the church-rates, to
I club their shillings and pounds to make up the sum.
(Loud laughter.) I would be glad to know what
be has given to the Mendicity Association. (A
voice in the crowd, 100/.) I own lam astonished.
(Loud laughter.) Perhaps he has repented 'Of
the act, and that, imitating the: Popish observance of
penance, be has chastised the' fleSh for it by throw-
ing his hundred pound note into the coffers of the
Brnnswiekers. (Loud laughter.) • If this be not the
true history' of the matter, I can only conclude that
we made him do it. (A burst of laughter.) I sup-
pose all who hear me have seen the beautiful letter
in which the 1001., note was sent to the Bruns-
wickers. The Reister of this morning has antici-
pated me in the literary criticism I would be
•dis-
posed to- bestow upon it. The Doctor knows the
English language so well,
that he talks of " eon-
-vening an institution," and when it is convened,
holding the meeting at the place called Tuesday, and
on the day called Rotunda.
.(Laughter.) This is
College education.' fOr you ; and chow interesting
when coming from the pen of an' Archbishop, with
an income of from 14 to 20,000/. a - year. After
some further observations respecting the statements
e n
put forth in the Quarterly Review, on the subject
-
of Father Sheehi's murder, which statement Mr.
ntle O'Connellma'
vigorouslyeoiicltided rbeypliepdroptoos,ing that a Te
quisition should be addressed to the Secretary
the Learned.
O
for the 29th." He said it was rumoured that the
-'
to the Catholics to 'call an aggregate meeting
Protestant friends of civil and religious liberty in
tended a meeting on that day. If this rumonr:
should turn out well founded, the Catholics would
readily give way, and hail the demonstration on the
Protestant side' as a new ground of hope that all
honest men would speedily be united for 'rebinds—
old Ireland. (The Learned Gentleman intimating
.that his other proposition; he.would take leave!to
submit on Thurtsh4Y,
eat clown amid plaudits which
continued for several moments,
Mr. Lswtuss seconded the resolution, which was
thee passed, and the Meeting adjourned.

Amongst those' who soceiyeo ikistinguished
marks of P,oyal rayonr on the late birth-day of the King of
VitArteE, was Mr— KAxmtENNEtt, the celebrated moil
cian, to whom his MAJESTY presented the Cron of the
4egio of