The Sun.
London, England, 1845-06-30 00:00:00

NOTICE OF MOTION.

Mr. HUME gave notice that he should postpone his
motion respecting the Raja of Sattara to this day three
weeks.

THE OYSTER FISHERIES.

Sir CHARLES LEMON inquired of the Vice-Presi-
dent of the Board of Trade, whether it was the intention
of the Government to bring forward, with a view to its
enactment in the present session, a Bill to prevent exces-
sive dre4 ing fur oysters during the breeding season; by
which practice, as has been abundantly proved, the
oyster beds are often seriously injured, and may be en-
tirely destroyed?

Sii G. CLERK said that no measure on the subject
would be introduced this session. Ile was of opinion
that this interference with the oyster trade would ma-
terially affeet the supply to the metropolis.
After a few words from Sir C. LEMON, the subject
dropped.

On the order of the day for the House resolving itself
into Committee on the Colleges (Ireland) Bill,
Sir EDMUND HAYES said that in pursuance of the
notice standing on the paper, he had to ask a question of
the Right Honourable Gentleman the Secretary for
the Home Department as to the present disturbed
state of Ireland. He wished to know whether the
powers at present possessed by the Executive Government
were considered sufficient to put down the system of
outrage and murder which was carried on in that un-
fortunate country—a system carrying terror and dismay
into the hearts of the peaceable portion of the com-
munity.—(Cheers.) If the Government said that they
required other powers, he should like to know what
those powers were?

Mr. B. OSBORNE said that before that question was
answered, and to save after trouble, he should wish to
know what part of Ireland the lion. Member referred to?

Sir E. lIAYES said it was quite evident that he re-
ferred to those counties which were the scenes of those
disturbances.

Mr. B. OSBORNE—Name them.

Sir E. HAYES—Cavan and others.

Sir JAMES GRAHAM said that her Majesty's Go-
vernment had felt as much anxiety as the Hon. Member
coull possibly do, respecting what was going forward
in the counties of Wicklow, Cavan, and Fermanagh. He
could inform the Hon. Member that every effort bad
been made to repress the outrages and crimes
that unfortunately prevailed. They had recently
increased both the military and police forces in those
counties, and it was to be hoped this step had done some-
thing to arrest the progress of this deplorable state of
affairs. He quite agreed with his Hon. Friend that
neither politics or religion had anything to do with this
unfortunate state of things. He had been informed that
a meeting of both the laity and clergy of these counties,
without distinction of denomination, was about to take
place at which measures would be devised for co-operation
with the civil and military powers. He did not despair,
but with this the existing powers would be quite suffi-
cient to secure the peace of those districts. At present,
however, he was not prepared to advise any other course.
ACADEMICAL EDUCATION (IRELAND) BILL.
The order of the day for going into Committee
was read.

Mr. J. O'CONNELL presented a great number of
petitions against this Bill ; the number of signatures
attached to them he stated to be 300,000.
Mr. ROSS said he wished to correct a statt-ment that
had been made in a former debate, respecting the Pro-
fessor of Greek, in the College of Belfast, teach-
ing Arian doctrines. He was intrusted to state
that the Reverend Mr. Bruce had never, on any
occasion whatever, taken advantage of his position
as professor to inculcate Arian doctrines., This
he (Mr. Ross) thought it was necessary to state in order
that Hon. Members might go into Committee with a
perfect understanding respecting this point.
Mr. S. O'BRIEN said that he bad already stated his
belief that the Bill would be the subject of endless
revision if the House undertook fully to consider
it. He was convinced that f he endeavoured to
discuss his labour would be unavailing, and
he thought, therefore, that he should best convenience of
the House by stating thus early his objections to the
details of the Bill. Withoutexpecting to modify the details
of the measure, he should have at least, the satis faction
of having performed his duty to this House and his coun-
try. He admitted the importance of education, and great
and pressing as was the physical suffering of the public,
he admitted that education of the present generation
might lead to a diminution of that suffering in those
that were to follow. He would, however, remind
the House of the measures which were recom-
mended by his Hen. and Learned Friend the
Member for Cork, on those recommended by the Com-
mission of Inquiry. And he felt that they were destined
to pass another session without seeing any measure
introduced for the diminution of the suffering, the exist-
ence and the extent of which was acknowledged by all.
He would also remind the House, that several years ago
the Commissioners of Education in Ireland said that it
would require the annual sum of 2,000,000 a year to pro-
vide education fur the people of Ireland. He would
take this opportunity of saying that he preferred mixed
education, and objected altogether against -those
to the extreme opinions held forth by the Archbishop of
Tuam on the one side, and the Archbishop of Armagh
on the other. Classical and mercantile education were,
he thought, sufficiently provided for in Ireland, but there
certainly was a deficiency of scientific instruction.
He did not object to the amount of the grant
proposed by the Government, which he thought liberal.
The friends of united education in Ireland opposed the
measure because it provided for the religious instruction
of neither ; and the friends of separate education opposed
it because all St eta would be anial,amated without the
possibility of Christianising any. The Irish pet pie were
essentially a religious people, and it therefore was in-
cumbent on the guardians of the Roman Catholic popu-
lation of the country to approach the House with a

tic 0,714-44 appMetinent of a Hoinatis c:,,tho)id
chupiain. But the :13i,1 as at present framed,
provid, d for the rt.ligious instruction of neither
Protestant or Catholic, rand though it contemplated
and sanctioned voluntary- endowineut. Such a contin-
get:cy was 'very uncertain ; and if it did not
as he believed woud he found to in the
case, no i:rovhion whatever would be made.
Be thought the plan whi,.th had been suggested by the
Roman Catholic Prelates was one of the best which he
had heard and he was persuaded that nothit,g but
the Anti-datn, prejndicos of that House prevented its
being adopte The Noble Lord the i\lembc.r for Flirt •
ford had proposed another plan. namely, that fees should
be oemanded from every stbdent. That proposal ilk)
had been rejected. The, Catholic Bishops de-
manded for the Catholic students prota ction from
all interference with their religious tenets. He
thought th:y would admit that that body was fully
ju,titied in the jealousy which they felt with respect to
this Act, as in the Executive Government there was nut
a single Hyman Catholic.
(LEFT SPEAKING.)