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hold up thtir Weds, the Hob. Baronet hell 4:own.
his.
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Sir. EnWAlu, KNATCHBULL replied, gnu. he could
tibt 6.
.troly said to have obje -,ed 10 any prre-i,sit,on
wilt+ le held I.p his hand '..g-inst it. lithe honour-,
able Gentleman did not en-ose•to recant, - he might
enjoy the sell-saiisfacrion a, ising•froin styii:g whtW
%Alas not true of rile of the r representnives in the
face of the county. lie was proceediog farther in
' this sir iii, when
- ..'lit-WrfeGrent-r-spotte to onTer. He ilinig h t the
topics whirl' toe Hon: Baionet,•el,cted vveneiii no
n
manner cone:ted with, the subl:c! of debate.—
Th -e- Honoc rie.le Baron- t li!d. 10t.% ever. a. geared
to eon fe,s, thint 'On a ie,hject of the-true:4 eosebb:,
,i,iniliortaice. to the country he had smelly no opinion
at all. 4. i .. . ;
:Mr. ItynErt then put a gyn. tintl to Sir Edkv:-rd
Knitciitmili ; w 11.4 her, in case 11 .e pet n ion was agr od
ta93y 'the ine4ing„, he would-s4roport it, in PatTa-
m,tit, or not ? • • • .. • -' • '
,
:.• SiV,EDWAIID.K.NATCHBULL *. aid, ,that certainly
wnat he h id hitlierio said was;uoi so nn;el., new) the
Fi, er—'='-pp-Trim,. .as it m as addteis;ed directly tO
Mr. Foote.. H. e, ficwey'er, wished th.,t what he had
said mieht.-yeSfin the breast of him to. whom he
. had addr( ,serf it, and he .shoWd Ito ~i. pr eeed to •
make sonic obsetvations on. the motion. He ter-
teinly tfe‘lt it. his duty to present any Petit'i'on td 11:e
House. of Commons from aey part Of, hit cOtisti.-.,.
tuents, provide! . that it t‘r.s trst;,ctf.ully tieorieclii•
11.:*;(1 in' his opieion 'the prcent Petition was. prqt.
. petlyevorded.. - A 4 to prem.sing to ieleport thee
tetitinn : he, would,. ho.:uever say, that-. he ;boogie
'it the duty of every reptesentative first to hear the
sen,timeets of n his-costituents, and theti.'to forin. '
his own I unehtion. This was, always' his opiirio.\
of the duty of a Meinber of Parliament. 'lte, 1
_ was.. desirous That -every point of, his 'pnbite cen-
divi.should be sirictly.scrutiniz-d. He had always -
'acted: from an honest -heart, 'w hether Ills judg-- .
inept. had been correct. eretve. He had al,setys, as
I a Represetuntivi; et the c..,'unty,,,, been equally- at ientive,,
to,,every pc'toti Jtic.lto eritue:4o::him oil public. busi-
ness, whatever party thatperno mi4lit 'belong loin
. potil.i:cs:- Ile fee in "hi, own mind .c,,nscions that he.
bad- lischart.i.d the trust ,repoSed in 'inn with honesty-
and -fidelity (no ! 7:0 ! 17 (03. Man.), vo:,.js). • - -
A Resolution et...e; Wt!ii Moved that the Petition,
. w.hich had :been read, should be presented by the
'Cottlity• Members.,"' - . , .
• . ..Mr.. tattAtt,ei said, that he• was asioni,h.d a' the
silence .of-the Hon. 13,irutftt (Sir:E. Knatchbull);
:1:61..: lie thquglq lie had a right to, use the word
' site: ce,' when the Llont. Baronet hat really sail
nothing to' the purpose. If the Hon. •Barenet d:d
..,.
not choose to say what he intended to do in future,
they had only to judge from varliat• had been his eon-
duct on former occasions., , In so judging of bin, he
'did stiplmS6-' he --continue a bitter. and d, ally_
• 'enemy .to' ill tefortn.—He might ask that 'Hod. 13;1-
ronet, Whether hellail e‘er- in his life given a vo'e in •
favonr of reform ; whether he had ever, gi'ven'a Note
in favour of the liberty or independence Of the coun-
try ; 'or whether, pn occasions when
.not only the
'•prosperity, but the liVes of Englishmen' were wat)-,
tonly sacrificed; lie, had-ever given a vote in fat our .
of the,' people ?.... 'lt would 'perhap.s be Unnecessary:
torneptiontrate questions to which lie might be:
,• . . ,
stfppoSed to'adtide; 'lle should,--however, ask him,
in the first place, low he had aced upon the clues-
'tion 'of the Duke of York -•? He mbst'have kit-omin
that the general opiniOn of this county, as welt as
of .the ivhdle kingdom, was, 'that he Was'guilty. He .
• 'Akould'pitt it to the Gentlemen' present, if, upon'
such evidence, aeycommonjury bitd returned a ver- •
diCt so iniquhOusew'ould they not have been scouted .
out of Westminster Hall ? . How did the' Hon. Bit-
*ratiet -vote upon the question-of the most disastrous,
'Expedition to the Island of Walcheren? That was
tin expedition planned ' without wisdorn,-executCd
without talent, -and. from . which ilie Country reapst
nothing but disgrace and discomfiture. 'The Coon-
tt y wished to find out the authorwof that calamitous
Expedition; - Sir' ' Edward •Knatehbuil, hoWever,
voted against an inquiry.' Sir Edward never. had
shewn himself a friend to the people, or to the'
cause of reform,' It was, therefdre, -by no means
sufficient to ask him whether he intended to present
the Petition. 1-1- would readily promise that he
would ; but this was but a sort of common-place
promise, which was not, meant to convey an idea,
that by such promise he was bound to support: the
Petition after it was presented. Sir Edward Knalch-.
bull must now see that the opinion of his Consti-
tuents, and of the Inhabitants of the County, was
clearly lb:favour of reform. If he was, then, satis-
• fled that the sense of the County was against him, •
and' titarjhe had lost their confidence/ it would be
in justice due to the County, and for his own ho-
nour, to' resign his seat. Before he expeaed to
see ieforrn agreed to, lie hoped that persons possess-
, ing such, principles as Sir Edward Knatchbull
would 'cease to find their way into the House of
Commons.
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Sir Wm; GE/inv. said, that be had not thought it
necessary for. him to state his 'opinion of the 1.3,.ti-,
. boo, as that had been already stated in the reqUi-
, sirinn . in the public papers, upon which the meet-
ing was 'called. When he was in PArliatnent, he
Was always a strenuous advocate. for Reform; ai,d
he now approved of the motion, which would give
aft opportunity, to every individual in the country of
exvessing, by his signature, his wishes upon that
"subject. He teally did hope, that when the voice
• Of the people' wa4 clearly pronounced, it would coin-
tnand attention.. The last time that the question of
Refoim -wets agitated in the House of Common., I
' . there was not fmore Than one-half of the House
present: if, then, the idice of the country could '
but call •the other halt to their duty, it might, per-
bans, be sufficient to aceoMPlish their wishes. He
thought; however, that: the 'honour of the,Countr
' 'would be lost in the outset, if the petition were to
be presented 'by a man. notoriously hostile to the ob-
jeat of it. He' would not wish to see a petition Of
' the County of Kent presented by a man who might
say, " Mr. Speaker, I present ycu a Petition which
is stich a'one, hoWever, 'as I Cannot approve Of."—.
If, -however; the Hon.-Baronet would, go
.hearCand
• hand.in the object of the Petition (and all know that
•.he is a very sanguine than in what, he undertakes),
then .ceitainly .he should wlsh him to present the pe-•
orlon; but if be would not promise to'support it,

REPORT. - Her Royal Highness the Princess
AMELIA has had a very bad night, and is- much
orce this morning. . :'•

Although nothing can be farther from our inter/'
n
tion than to endeavour to damp the public 111:/res
0
with respe& to the ultimate issue of the CawPato
in Portugal, yet we think it our duty, as v/011.!°
British Army in Portugal as,to the Public, to cortex
the exaggerated .staternenta which have .be
e°
relative to the British force in that kingdom. `l'
army of 114S5ENA was stated some
time :El"' id
his own Proclarnatibn, to amount to I 10,000 rnz
0
and at the battle of Busaco he had adually 70'00
men wider arms, and since
.that..peii(xl be 1)3'410'
a
oetved reinforcemes to the amount a

men.
With regard to the British, it appears ire!
oliicial. returns that towards thetniddieof,SePl„ro
be'
—d,
number of British fitelocks in Portugal,
ing the '7th regialent froth Halifax, amoullt6l
2.7,QQ0 men. Since that period the follOwitig ct)11,
have arrived, Vic. the 3011); 44th, 50th, 71st, 'its:
88th, 921, 94th; together with sane Bfunwrcl'`.
some drafts and some at tiilery, with a squad° uE
'the 13th draioon's, and three rifle. companies
Cadiz, the whole of .« hich we estimate at ab'
it
or"
7ooa men ; so that the public must see that
W.F.4LINGT9IsI cannot have more, if so hAI
.34,000 British, and that.s•Jrne of these are in Jet"'

000
went.
The Portuguese regular may amount to 35r •
`men; ot-these 25,000 are with Lord WELL' o.^.°
,Tile.yernAinder are in garrison at, Abrantei, Santa.:
:rem, Penichel Lisbon;,-St.,Julian!s, and the forts le
the -vicinity upon the whole, that Lord W:s I°l'
my be fairly estimated at between 55 and 63'-°:r
ir:en. We have'reason to think the former 01-1111-e
the more probable.
We will now proceed to state the dispos,i'l°° cl
the British force, and the position of each divi6l°ll:
and the names of. the Officers by whom they are

spe&ive3y commanded.
The Cavalry,'3ooo, Sir S. Co"Tem, comma°
.The.lr!fantry:was then divided into four divisions,
independently of the light troops and the
forming at Thomar, under General .I.crrg,
at that time -was not designated by, any naas'
These divisiOns were commanded as
follow's

number.

COOl
Ist. Division,.. 5000, Sir,B.- SPENtEIt, '

mandipg.
- ; gito
Sd ,thvision, 5500, Li2utenant-Gneral

ditto.
aitt°'
3d Division, 3000, Major-General Plcrog. p,
4th Division, 4000, Major-General H
COLE, ditto.
I It.
Light -Division, 3000, Brigadier-Genera
CRAUFURD, dittos.'
160 i
Divisioi, at Thornar, and troops at Lisbon,

—Srajor-Ganeral rEiTii, ditto.
Since that period have arrived; as we, have
stated,. the 30th, 44th, 50th, 71st, 79th,j88th'g'0
941 h, the„Brunswickers, some drafts, artilielP
rifle companies. How they .have since beer) distr
buted, we cannot take upon 'us positively to 54tetil.
but we imagine that the number of division' 5
continue the same,
.and that they are placeu
the same Commanders.
rea''•
We add the following list, which we have •
.oi
trctansider - correal, of the' different 'Reigilile
now serving in Portugal : •
tis
CAVALRY.-3d dragoon guards, 4th dragoe'ito
Royals, 13th light dragoons, 14th ditto, 16th
Ist King's German light dragoons..
(:cd rCl5'
INFANTRY.-19t battalion of Coldstream ""
Ist battalion of 3d ditto, six battalions of Ger3°o/1
legion, viz. Ist, 2d, sth and 7th, and the ist an
or
light infantry of the German legion, the 3`:i tot''
talion oefirst foot, Ist battalion of 3d foot, toy
talion of 6th foot, 2cl, battalion of '7th foot, ISt
'talion of 9th foot, 2d battalion of 24th f°°4
battalion of 27th foot, 2d battalion of 28th'. g:tio'
and 30th ditto, 2d battalion of 3t st foot, 2d. b-its,
lion of 34th foot, 2d battalion of 38th foot, 21173
lion of 39th,fuot, Ist battalion of 401 h f"'°(',l-tto'
battalion 't42tl foot, Ist batt. 43d light, Ist ~,-attlf
lion 44th foot, Ist battalion 45th, Ist and '"
lions 48th, Ist battalion 50th foot, Ist battaPrEciipi'
light, 2d battalion 53d, Jst battalion 57th, ¢ tor
talion 58th, sth battalion 60th, Rifleman, 15E 0
talion Gist, 2d battalion 68th, 71st, 74th, 79111'014
battalion 83d toot, Ist and 2d battalions B°lo 41
92 foot, Ist battalion 95th light, 94th 'f°°t'
toot. 61151 d
TOTlAL—British, 43 battalions—Gerrnno,
talions.
GRAND TOTAL-49 battalions of Infantry, : oth,
'regiments of Cavalry, with Artillery,
Staff Corps,'Scc.
The 4th Foot is-under orders for ernbarkati°El;/1
regiment (the 43d) is expeeled from America's
four battalions will probably be detached ft°
• 01
cily. ttali° •
It is to be observtd that many/of these ha oeo
do not exceed 500. We hope', that this state
• • ty
which is taken from the offiCial, will.satts teo
reasonable and v. ell;di-p', ted person, in d