The Sun.
London, England, 1844-07-25 00:00:00

JAVA.

In answer to a question from Mr. LABOUCHERE,
Mr. GLADSTONE said, persons resident in Java,
not bearing the name or title of Consul, nor having
any official character as between the British and the
Dutch Government, had been authorised by her Ma-
jesty's Government to perform the duty of certifying
Java-grown sugar. The three gentlemen appointed for
the three ports were Messrs. Bonhill, 11.14 Neil, and
Frazer. There would be no difficulty in the parties who
had received orders for shipments in discovering those
gentlemen.
Mr. LABOUCHERE inquired if those gentlemen
were merchants at those ports?
Mr. GLADSTONE said no duties of a consular cha-
racter attached to the office. With regard to the ques-
tion whether they were merchants or not, it was impos-
sible for him to answer it. The impression on his mind
was, that Mr. Fraser was not in business, though he had
been, and that the other two gentlemen were.
CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS.

The House then went into Committee on the Contro.
verted Elections Bill, Mr. GREENE in the Chair.

Clauses from 1 to 16 were agreed to without discussion

Clauses up to 46 were agreed to without discussion.

On clause 46 being proposed.
Mr. COLLETT (Athlone) said that the present ap-
peared to him to be the most suitable time for proposinr,
the clause of which he had given notice :—" That the
seat of no Member who has once appeared before and
been tried by any Election Committee on a bona fide pe-
tition against his return, shall be affected by any subse-
quent petition against the same seat for the same election."
Though this clause might seem to have a personal refer-
ence to himself, he proposed it for a general purpose. He
did not know why he should be subjected to a second pe-
tition, and he should like to hear from the Solicitor-Ge-
neral or from the Noble Lord the Chairman of Election
Petitions, ander what clause of the Act of Parliament
a second petition was presented against his return.
After some short discussion the clause was withdrawn.
(LEFT SITTING.)

HOUSE OF LORDS.
Their Lordships met at Five o'Clock.
OPENING OF LETTERS.

The Earl of RADNOR gave notice that he would, to-
morrow, put a question to the Noble Lord opposite, the
President of the Council, on the subject of the Post-
office inquiry (opening of letters).
The Marquis of NORMANBY presented a petition
from Paisley, complaining of the gas works as a nuisance.
COUNTY CORONERS BILL.
The NOBLE MARQUIS also presented a petition from
the Coroner of Devon, in favour of that clause in the
County Coroners Bill which gave an increased allowance
for travelling expenses.
The Marquis of SALISBURY said that the clause
had been struck out, and the Bill had been read a third

time and passed.
The Earl of SHAFTESBURY said, that the Bill
had been read a third time, but he (as Chairman of the
House at the time) had not put the question that the
" Bill do pass."
The Marquis of NORMANBY said, that he would
now move that the clause be restored. He was by no
means of the same opinion as the Noble Duke (the
Duke of Richmond), who moved the omission of the
clause, that railroads rendered the travelling of coroners
cheaper.
Lord REDESDALE opposed the re-insertion of the
clause. It was quite evident that the office was one of
honour and emolument quite sufficient without any addi-
tional profits being conferred on it, for whenever there
was a vacancy the competition was very earnest and ex-
pensive ; and there was, therefore, no reason for putting
an increased tax upon the country.
The Marquis of NORMANBY said he would divide
the House.
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the
House divided. The numbers were—
For the re-insertion of the clause 6
Against it 25
Majority for the Bill
The Bill was then passed.
NEGRO PETITION—SUGAR DUTIES.

Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from a body
of his fellow-subjects, who, although lately admitted to
the rights of men, had not before this ventured to ap-
proach the Legislature as petitioners. The petition was
from the negro merchants, planters, and labourers of
Trelawney, in Jamaica, against the reduction of the duties
on foreign sugar, on the ground that such reduction
would encourage slave-holding States at the expense of
the. British colonies, which would be exposed to a
ruinous competition.
UNLAWFUL OATHS (IRELAND) BILL.
A NOBLE MARQUIS hoped that the third reading of
the Unlawful Oaths Bill would be postponed till Monday,
in order that the House might be in possession of the
determination of the Government with respect to the
persons who had lately been tried in Ireland for con-
spiring to accuse others of administering unlawful oaths.
SUDBURY DISFRANCHISEMENT.

Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from the
Mayor and Corporation of Sudbury, praying to be allowed
the expenses incurred by them in opposing the Bill for
the disfranchisement of their borough. As the House had
no funds out of which the expenses could be paid, he
hoped the Noble Lord opposite (the Marquis of Salis-
bury), who had encouraged the petitioners, and whose
charity was well known, would pay the expenses.
The Marquis of SALISBURY—Out of what funds ?
Lord BROUGHAM—Out of your own pocket.—
(Great laughter.)
The petition was ultimately withdrawn.
BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.

Lord REDESDALE moved, according to notice, that
the standing order, which requires the attendance
of five Peers on Committees on private Bills,
should be suspended, that they might constitute a Com-
mittee for the remainder of the session. He made this
motion in consequence of the departure of so many Peers
from Parliament, that it was difficult to a get a full attend-
ance at all the Commitees, before whom there was a great
arrear of business.

Lord WICKLOW did not approve of the motion.
It was the duty of the Peers to attend to the Commit-
tees, and they ought to be compelled to do so.—(Hear.)
Lord BROUGHAM said that a great cause of the
the arrear was the want of accommodation for the
Committees. Much more regard was had for the glory
of the architect than for the convenience of the House.
—(Hear, hear.) But he hoped that, if the accommoda-
was not sufficient next year, their Lordships would dim
that glory a little.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said, that every
architect in the country admitted that their Lordships
could have been provided with a suitable House, and
adequate accommodations within the seven years
that had already passed. He hoped their Lord-
ships would insist upon the works being proceeded with
in a more expeditious manner, and that they would
compel the architect to have proper apartments ready
by the next session.
Earl FORTESCUE hoped that it would not be ne-
cessary to act upon the resolution, which, however, he
would not oppose.
The Duke of WELLINGTON said that hitherto the
attendance of Peers had been as full as could be ex-
pected, but the object of the motion was to provide
against the possibility of a deficient attendance at the
close of the session, when so many Peers would be leav-
ing town.

After a few words from Lord COLBOItNE,

Lord REDESDALE withdrew his motion, and gave
notice, that, if necessary, he would renew it on Monday.
ACTIONS FOR GAMING SUSPENSION BILL.

The Marquis of NORMANBY, alosence of the
Duke of Richmond, moved the third reading of the Ac-
tions for Gaming at Horse Races Bill.
The Earl of RADNOR opposed the motion. He
contended that the defendants in these actions had no
claim for the protection or the interference of the Par•
liament. When they incurred these penalties,
they knew they were acting unlawfully.—(Hear.)
That was proved by the evidence of Mr. Tat-
tersall and other witnesses. Some parts of the
evidence were exceedingly painful. One gentleman, a
fellow of one of the universities, stated that he had been
" victimised" by two of his friends—gentlemen—(A
laugh)—and fellows of the same university.—(A laugh.)
The LORD CHANCELLOR—Cambridge ? Give
us the right name.—(A laugh.)
The Earl of RADNOR said this was a Bill to prevent
a man from obtaining a pecuniary advantage, which
the law, as it stood, gave him and encouraged
him to seek. There was no doubt that the
act which the actions were directed against,
was illegal, and the evidence before the Committee
showed that it had been ruinous to many, very
many. The only means which the law provided for
checking so great an evil was by these qui tam actions.
In passingthis Bill the House would do a great injustice.
The Earl of STRADBROKE and Lord FOLEY supported
the Bill.
After a few words from the Marquis of NORMANBY,
in reply, the Bill was read a third time and passed.
SLAVE TRADE.
The Earl of ABERDEEN, pursuant to notice, laid
on the table the latest instructions given to the naval
officers engaged in the suppression of the slave trade.

(LEFT SPLICING.)

Sir Robert Peel returned to town at eleven o'clock
this morning, from a visit to her Majesty at Windsor
Cabtle.