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net, or Agent should proceed without the Bill w s
' certified by one of the said Clerics. Such were tl e
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objets which he -had in view, and it was for tl e
HOUSE OF PEERS. i House to consider what remumeradon . the Clerks
WEDNESDAY, JAN. 31; should have for their' extra tremble. He therefore
moved—
A Message was received at the Bar of the House ' „ T • .
hat a Selea Corrimittee be appointed to consider ot
from the Commons, requiring the permission of the more elkaually providing fur theaccuracy and rrgulority
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their Lordships, that the Marquis of Huhtly may of passing Private Bills, and the rates of fees tri the Clerks,
4nd that they report their opiniori thereon to the horse."
attend and appear as a witness, to be examined be-
fore a Cormnitee of the whole House in the Ia- - Mr. PARNEL, Mr. SuseNtte, Mr. PETER MooftE i
quiry to be instituted by the Commons relative the . Mr. BATHURST,:aIad Mr. gut:tee made a few ob-
, seevations on the subject ; and Sir A. PIGOTT move 1
Expedition to the-Scheldt.
The LORD Ceeeceetene immediately stated, that
: that Sir C. Dundee and. Mr. Horner be included in
; the list of the Committee.
their Lordships world send an eirswer by a rues- ,
senger of their own. . t The motion was then put and carried ; and it was
The LORD CHANCELLOR laid below the House '
! -agreed that flee should be a quorum. . . • -, „
some additional Papers respecting the Ewe:ll...i EXPEDITION_ TO '['tip SCHELDT. ,
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tion to the Scheldt ; they Were ordered to led Lord PORCAESTER moved, that the Sptaker do
printed. '• . issue' hiS warrant for the atteudanre of the fellow-
The Ninth deport of the Irish Commissioners ' ing Officers to give evidence before the Cemmittee
was presented at the Bar, and ordered to b.. primed. 1 of the Houee of Commons, to inquire alto the Ex!.
The Thanks of the House were directed to be
pedition to the. Scheldt, viz. Lieutenant-Ge octal Sir
Liemenate-Generel D Lieutenant-
given to the Right Red-. . the lend Bishop of e Eyre Coate, on, 1
Bristol, lot the exceilent Sermon which he preached General Hope, Major-General Brownrig, gadier-
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at Westminster Abbey yesterday before their Lord-
G.,meral M'Cleed, Capt. Squires, of the En,!,alQers.,
ships.—Adjourned. l Captain Owen, of the Navy, &c. whose attend.mce
•••••••••■0..............• t was ordered -accordingly. -
.. . , !. It was also ordered, on tip; motion of his 1,45 r-
d HOOSE. OF COMMONS. i
. 0-0, that General Grosvenor and Se: likeee Pop-
WEDNESDAY, JAN. 31. ham .be desired to attend in their pieces, being
Mr. Johnstone, from the Office of the Chief • Members of the House. He net ived, that
Secretary of State in Ireland, presented' at the Bar Message should be sent to the Leids; to request the
the Ninth Repo' t of the Commissioners of Inquiry ' atteniiince ot the Earl of Rolv'n before the Coei-
,
for Ireland. mittee, which.WaS also.agreed to. . ,
Lprd Peacueseee stated at the Bar of the House, - Lord Poßcazsma. said, ,it probably Woo d Lot he
that ha had oelivered their Message to tile House, : objeeded to, that the Committee shoted,et rie pry
of L-erd-, requeeing that their Lorddeips• would . diem,
,
permit Lord Bat ou Gordon to attend the Commit- 1 Tne
Cu ANCULLOR of the Excn Qt
ea waeagaiust
tee oi that House upon Friday next ; and their tee . House adoptitz, at. the present moment,. ily
leseelships had granted permisston accordingly. ' such tube: When the House met on Fri lay,
;it migh seen how,lar there was a probehility of
Mr. CALL:RAFT moved that aecoants be laid be-
fore the House bf the returns (Vie monthly recruit- ' the Inquiry extending, and it In:gilt be I hru;bt ;W-
-ing for the year ending the eetlt day of Jan. 1809, visable to proceed in the same manner asthe Inquiry
and also an accpuut of the effective military strengt II which took place last Session. .
of the army froth the 25th of January, 1800, to the i Mr. TIERNEY obseived, that as at this period eif
25th July same year, and also from that date to, the , the Session
thereth could not be any .incoaveniehee of
eel
January, 1810, distinguisheig cavalry, foreign : setting a dys apart for the Inquir it vvould,
corps, artillery and militia, with the terms of their ! in his opinion, be hater to come to Some wider-
enlistmeut, whether for life, ur for a eel tain hum- Heatohng on the subjee. Sir John Hope was to comsi
ber of years.—Ordered. from Scotland, and as other Officers would have to
1 attend from day to day, they might not know what
ORDNANCE.
Mr. CALCRAFT se...ing a Right non. Geallernan time they would b waisted from not pointing out p a
in his place, rose to put a question, with respect to regular proceediog.e He recommended to follow u
the various rumours afloat upon a reported defatea- the Inquiry with all possible dispatch, without how-.
no-
tion in the Ordnance D,Tartio . I --1--:• cih'ed to ever imerfering with any basiness,of.a pressing
LAViC: !-Ll',llULlii ; ceseity.
know if there was any foam:lee:et te,
and if there was, whether the discovery ot such t The CSANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, the . •
defalcation arose out of mere accident, or was the House would see on Friday, whether the eheLesy
oetele,. le tee eee....•....y II ..,A LA‘=l.l ,it ohs
L.,)1.• Oc ..uw awed, o i ..,..i.onday. ft.. i t ,-•
the result of the proceedings of the Conmaissto;exs Fors would be ready for delivery before theformer'
of Military Inquiry, he should not feel it to be his day. As to the plan of Inquiry, he thought the
duty to trouble the Huuse any farther on the subjeet, House might consider it under three heads ; first,
miler% ise he should. .the policy of the measure; secondly; the ex-
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCIiE4VER ,replied, ecution of it ; and, thirdly; the necessity for
that as as far as he knew he belie% ed the d-sc.wery al- ing the evacuation of Walcheren—a mode , which,
luded to was the re,ult ot accident ;it bad come to he thought, would simplify the proceedings of the
his knowledge the Saturday before tee meeting of
.; Housee
Parliarnent. On the tollowing Monday he made ; Mr. DERNEY was of opinion that it should be
inquiry into the eircumstauces, and found that the ; investigated under the first head, whether the fleet
lern'.n to say the lea •t of it, had acted in vio- was as soon fitted out as it ought, or not ?- whether
Gent ,
latioe of the Act of Parliament, and he Kad accord- the arn6unt of the disposable force was sufficient
ingly recount-at:ivied such an inquiry Imo the merits . what information Ministers had as to the strength. of
of the case as induced that Gentleman to tender his the force of the enemy ? And the next, isoint for
resignation. Ni) further draughts ot the public mo- inquiry was, whether the eondua ,of the officers
ney had beeen permitted to be made upon receipts who were intrusted with the conduct of the Espedi-
in the name ot that Othcer. He next Still to the tion was proper or not.—(Here the conversation ter-
Commisioners of Military loquity to know it they •, urinated).
had discovered any thing in the Ordnance Depart- NAVY ESTIMATES.
The House, on the motion of the CHANCELLOR
nt, aod the answer he received was, that nothing
. of ale EXCHEQUER, resolved itself into a Cones
loccurred to them that rendered it necessary to make
any communication. Not deeming this answer ; met,ee of Supply.
Mr. ROgERT WARD rose for the purpose of move
satisfaaory, he made further Inquiry, but it did
,in the Estimates of the Navy. He moved—
not appear that the public would sustain any consi-
"lhat it was the opinion of the Committee that
deratee -toss. . , . i
; the number of Seamen erriployed for the year .18-1 O,
Mr. CALCRAFT said, he was glad to hear that the
be 130,000 men, including 31,000 marines, which
public would net st4fer as much as fUnlpUr repro-
,was, agreed.t o." :, .
seated---(ore the subjett was discontinued).
f m -He observed, that .. it was necessary- to fellow
SUITORS IN CHANCERY- • up the vote with the usual vote of wear and dear,
' which the Committee would recollect embraced the
Mr. M. A. TAYLOR said, it was his intention, i
the business was not taken up in the House 0 ; wag-s and victuals of the number of men voted.
-Lords, or by some Member more competent than He had
to observe, that the amount voted last year
himself in the House of Cotnmons, to bung forward t
was 11,900,0001. but there .would be a dimithition ,
on respecting Suitors in Chancery. - thie year in the sum. to the amount of. one Million
a moti
- . PRIVATE BILLS. : and upwatds.—ln the first place, he observed,ehough
the number of Men voted amounted to 130,000 Men,
The CHANCELLOR of the EeCHEISUER said he :
rose .in pursuance of the notice he had given, to yet on an average there was an increase of 13,000,
mote for a. Committee to regulate the mode and which would be for the House to consider- here-
proceedings with more accuracy in the' passing of after, whether they should lie continued in the ser-
private bills. It was necessary in etfecting.this de- vice or not ? On the subjeet of victualling, he had
suable objea, that it shonld be done in le delihe- ' to remark, that there would be a considerable say-
rate manner, and he thought a Selea. Commitleq . hie in the Estimates of the Navy,. In which was
- cl-''uded heretofore the victualling soldiers'beyond the
the best manner of -proceeding. There were three
points to which he called the attention of the House, eeas, so that_ on an average of three years' the
as he considered the present praet!ce capable of tery amount of one million, included in that service;
great improeement. First, the introduction of
es a re
P- , would -be carried to the army. The whole o' f the
'es timate would then be 10,100,0001. He concluded
vote Bill, as it present, there was no. person rpon-
sible for its clauses. Secondly, the progress of the Bill ' by meving—
through a Committee. And, thirdly, that the Bill. 1 " That the sum of 2,999,7501.. be granted.'to his
should be carefully and thoroughly examined. The ! Majesty, for the wages of the said 130,000 men, for
. thirteen lunar months, at the rate of lief ss. 6d, per
Member who introduced the Bill, nor any other per-
son,was now responsible for its clauses, and therefore I autn, per month."
many of them came before the House in ' a very i Admiral - MARKHAM observed, that in -"former
imperfea manner. The private business, he oh-
.; years it was usual to stale the average of the number
served, had increased three-fold within the last ten of seamen that woulde emped,,ooo but
men. '
pears, and and if the Committee should think dispatch heard o f such an excess beforelo torahs 13nThe
necessary, then he was of opinion that it Was desira- see-fenei
which
amounted to 0001.
- the purpose of introducing Private Bills, .to certify '1 The CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER .sia, in
1 coesequence ot an application froin the Admiralty
that it was, in point of form, regular and proper ;
and, in the next case, that it could not Ago into a to 'plat down the Sea Fencibles, as not being of aid,
' Committee without the adverse party Devine due ! advantage to the country, .it eves itrtended that' they
and sufficient notice. The next objeth woe he to, should be discontinued, but then there must be half
correct the manner of engrossments, without inter- . 'pay to the'officers reduced. The viaualling of the
t feting with the present prattiee, and dial no Atter- melts abroed would be bronght forwaid, he observed,
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