The Sun.
London, England, 1821-09-25 00:00:00

NURENIBURG,

REPLY OF THE SUBLIME PORTE TO DATtON STR CIGO7
NOFF'S NOTE OF THE .6TH OF JULY (OLD STYLE),
DATED THE 26TH OF JUL:', 1821.
" The Sublime Porte has taken into consideration the con-
tents of the official note presented by the distinyuiseel Baron
Strogonoff, Envoy Extraordinary and Nlinister lleriftiotentirtry
from the Court of Russia to the Cttornan..Port, dated the Gth
July (old style), relative to the measures and dispositions which
it has taken and_ continues to pinsue with respect to the fireek
nation, in rebellion against its merciful Sovereign. Although
it be well known that :the :system
_constantly pursued by the
Sublime Porte from the bevinning, is founded on the. firm reso-
lution sn-upUlously to fulfil. the treatiea and conventions cori.
eluded with all the flierally powers, and particularly with its
kind neighbour- the Curt of Russia;. that its intention has in-
variably been to pursue the purest friendship and most perfect
good understanding with that Court; and that its arnicali/e•dis-
positions have been proved at several times by the official cm'.
muniaations with. the arulr.ssadOr above mentioned, and the
Ministers and Charges d'Affaires. of the other Powers ; although
.it tie superfluous to repeat here-hOw often and in what different
ways we have endeavoured to convince that Envoy, our friend,
with respect to the occurrencca zu/vertizd to in that note.
" That all the ind'ivlltiag punished in consequence of the in-
surrection, and amongstthem the 6'reek Patriarch and other
Prelates, had met with a fate they deserved.
" That the abuses - offatd to some of the Grek Churches
were but the wicked attempts of the dregs and reffise of the
people: . _

•
" That the adoption of the mode of living in encampment, in-
stead of in the towns, and the general armament of the Mussul-
rnan nation, were indispensablemeastires for maintaining inter.
nal tranquillity, 'which by no ineaiis affect the friendly Powers,
nor the different- classes .tef UnoXending Mayas ; that the.
structions given to the (7ommendant of the troops sent ,by the
Sublime Porte into AValichia and_Moldavia had no other end
in view than to reduce the rebellious and deliver the
ProvireceS -from 'than; the Sublhne Portie 'enter-
tained -,nnt, .the slightestseintvntion' of- ehariging the. order
'once cstabli•shed, nor of infringing Any theeprivileges enjoyed
by those provinces ; 1-L.3-soon as tranquillity Shall be re-
stored, that is, when the. brigands who hate eppeared in the
principalities shall have been totally eeepelled ; finally; when
the ci-devant Prince of Moldavia, -Michel, and his adherents
Who have escaped with 'lime. as well as those miscreants who
have fled into the'llusStvi or, as ti ian territori,' shall have been
given up or publicly punished at the Very places of their arrest,
m presence of the officers :of the two Governs:nexus, the Sublime
Porte would immediately proceed t 6 the installation of. Way-
wodes, and apply itself most ioxioiislyto cause ancient conven,
times to be observed,- and-the. privileges of the two,provinces to
be maintained as in times past. • ,
" Nevertheless, the A n tb assador, our friend, dev athig, eon trary
to all expectation, and without any cause, froth the path of !no,
aeration, refusinfr to listen tO the sincere and honest represen-
tations of the Sublirne Porte, azed advancing frivolous pretexts,
contrary the usage of
.diplOmatie missions, testified his dis.
satisfaction with the prOeeedings of Government; and taking
the resolution of retiring to I,tujukdere, he prohibited his inter,
preters from communicating Nizitli the Porte, and put an end to.
all correspondence. • Now', although the instructions, in form
of a notification' which the-Russian Minister has received ire
consequence of .those events, be founded only on the report
which he has made to his CoArt, and which is probably by no
means conformable to triith,yes thegood intentions and just pro-
ceedings of the Suolime-Porfei'as'Well in that as in all other af-
fairs, whether at recent or remote periods, are not less clear then
the mid-day sun ; they are appreciated by the representatives of
all the Powers.of Europe; and Inown to all the world..
"'Sire e, then, the Ambassador is retired to Theiukdere, and
has prohibited all communication, and particularly reflect.'
ing that, notwithstanding 'the functions which he was in-
trusted to discharge, he has not solieited the reply which the
Sublime • Porte expected to a despatch written by the Reis
EfDedi, at the corntnencement.of the•disturbanees,' to his Excel-
lency the Minister for Foreign-Affairs in Russia, and which was
delivered to the Ambassador at-a conference ; the Sublime Poi!..•
has thought it necessary to make known, directly and immediate-
ly, to the Court of Russia, its latest intention's with regard to the
matters in question—intentions which are founded in justiee,and
integrity. In consequence of Which, his Highness the Grand
Vizir has written at length to' his Excellency the Minister of
State of the COurt of Russia, on the 27th of the Ramazan ; and
the answer Eked to be given: by the Sublime Porte t that
Court, in the course of eight days, has already preceded by'
from 15 to 20 days the demands expressed in the Ambassador's .
note. But since the Ambassador has presented an official note, '
expressly for the purpose of requiring an answer, we set forth i
an abridged statement of facts, according-to the truth."

(To be c'ontinutd.)

A HAMM:I:GiI MAIL arrived at a late hour last
night with Papers to Wednesday last :
" ST. PETERSLICIIGH,S'EPT.I.—Their Majesties
the Emperor and Empress have spent the last
four days in the Palace of Kammenoistroov, but
will remove to-day to the Palace of Zarskjeselo.
This shews how erroneous the statement of pub-
lic jolirnals was, that . his Majesty had set out
for Odessa.

" FROM TIIE MAIN, SEPT. 12.—The Russian
fleet at Chersou, at the-mouth of the Dnieper,
consists, it is said, of 10 or 12 ships-of the line,
besides smaller vessels. At Vienna and else-
where it is considered as certain that peace be-
tween Russia and the Porte will be preserved by
the mediation of the other Powers.

H A NOV ER , SEPT. 15.—His Excellency Count
Munster,: after staying several days in this city,
has crone to his estate in the Principality of Hil-
derheim, and will return by the time his Ma-
jesty arrives here. Besides the Guard of Ho-
nour on horseback, formed of the principal Citi-
zens, against the visit: of his Majesty, a great
part of other Citizens have now joined to
form a Guard of Honour on Foot. In the little
town of Pattensen, also, two leagues from this
city, the chief Citizens have formed .a Guard
of Honour, which already amounts -to about
GO. In every place through which his Ma-
jesty will pass from -Minden hither triumphal
arches are erected. Two are erected in the
suburb Linden, through which his Majesty will
pass on his arrival before he reaches'fferrenhausen.
One of these is erected by the districts the other
by the High Bailiff-Von-A lten. The triurn phal arch
erected by the City is'nearly completed ; it is in
an elegant style, and 'adorned with several paint-
ings by our celebrated artist Ramburg. The
troops which ate to be'dtawn :together during his
Majesty's stay have received marching orders, so
that they may all be here'hy the 2Gth.
" CAFSEI., SEPT. 1c2,-It does not seem that
.our form of Government will undergo the changes
that were expected. Several innovations in the
mode of administration have, it is true, been in-
troduced ; but there is• no more said of giving us.
a representatire Constitution. Our Prince is said
to have declared his sentiments on this subject, add-
ingihe knewho wto make his people happyin another
manner. He has not even given permission to as-
semble the Feudal States, which was usual at.
the accession of every new Sovereign, saying,
that he intends to save the country the 100,000
rix dollars which are usually offered as a present
to the new Sovereign the first time the States are
assembled. The military and public officers are
particularly favoured by the new regulations
the latter are well paid, and the number of places
increased ; it is.therE:fore natural that these per-
sons cannot-sufficiently praise the new order of
things. Of all the classes the Nobility, whose
privileges the late Elector so au xionsly preserved,
have the least favour to boast of. The present
Government seems to intend to place the Nobi-
lity on a level with the other classes of the corn-
jnunity."

TIT IA: SUN.

SALEM QUIS DICkRL rALSUM .4UDE4T?

LONDON,
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER .25, 1821.

[Extract of a Letter. from the Agent to 12..yd's at Consta.nti.:
nople., dated the 25th of August.]

" Since my last, of the 10th inst., every thine
has remained tranquil, and this is the more fully
confirmed by the renewal of some commercial
operations. In consequence of the Government
having refused to take any more Corn, about 136
cargoes have gone, forward, amongst which-are se-
veral that had been contracted for fifty days ago,
and it is to he feared that some serious loss will
ensue,-al they cnuld not be in a state to endure a
long voyage after such detention. The Cambrian:
frigate arrived at Smyrna, 18th inst. The gene-
ral opinion now seems to be in favour of peace."

[Extract of a Lot Or. frotn the Agents to Lloyd's at Smyrna;
- • • . (last(' Aug. 17.1

" This City continues to enjoy perfect tranquillity. Nothing
certain is known here of the operations of the Turkish and Greek
fleets since wc last wrote to you." '

rrenCh Papers of SaturJay, which arrived
this morning, furnish no decisive intelligence re-;
specthig thd question of peace or war, but con-
tain several articles or some interest relative to
the affairs of Turkey and Grcece, which will be
found in our preceding columns. The Journal des
Debuts communicates a portion of the answer of
the, Sublime Power, dated the 26th of July, to the
nqte of the Baron de STROGONOFF, dated the
6th---iSth Of July. on the subject of the mea-
sures pursued by the Turkish Government against
the Greek nation. This note, it. will be recol-
lected, the Baron' de STROGONOFF refused to
receive before his departure for Odessa, and

it was in consequence transmitted direct to

Petersburgh.

We insert to=day the first part of the answer
of the' Porte to. the note of Baron STROOONOFF,
of the 6th July, relative to the measures pursued
by " sublime and merciful" Government, toward
its " miscreant" and " rebellious" subjects, the
Greeks. In this hypocritical document, the
Porte asserts that " all the -individuals punished
in consequence of the insurrection, and amongst
them the Greek Patriarch and other Prelates,
deserved their fate ; that the instills offered to
some of the Greek churches were only the wicked
attempts of the refuse of the people, that the
Turkish encampments and armaments were only
intended for maintaining internal tranquillity, and
did not affect friendly powers, particularly their
hind neighbour the Court of Russia,—and that
after the Insurgents shall have been reduced to
subjection, it is the intention of the Porte to
restore every thing in Moldavia and Walachia to
their former footing."—The Court- of Russia-,
then, and all Europe, are to believe that the
Greek Patriarch, Prelates, merchants, and other
individuals, whose blood has deluged the streets
even of Constantinople itself, were " miscreants"
who deserved their fate !—that the heroes who
are fighting for "the liberation of their country
are ungrateful rebels to an enlightened, merciful,
and paternal Government'.—and that there is
nothing which ought to be so much desired as
the reduction of this barbarous and ferocious race
to the mild sway of the Git.ND SEIGNOR, against
which they have impiously dared to rebel, when,
if it please GOD, he will restore every thing to its
former footing, and be most happy to join in a
cup of kindness yet with his most esteemed and
friendly neighbour the Emperor of RUSSIA 1-7.:
The Courts of Europe, surely, will not listen
to this fallacious representation—this pretended
shew of benevolence and moderation The
Greeks are not rebels. It is a perversion of the
plainest principles, and of common understanding,
to consider or treat them as in insurrection against
their legitimate government. This comes of
having ever recognised or treated with the
Turkish Power, as with a State lawfully esta-
blished in Europe. As military robbers they en-
tered the countries which they have desolated,
and as military robbers only have they retained
possession of them to this day. " When one "
European " nation conquers another, and they
become incorporated, 'by having the same rights,
the same language, and by being blended toge-
ther by intermarriages, a long series of years ren-
ders them one people. Who can in England dis-
tinguish the Aborigines from the Romans, Saxons,
Danes, Normans, and other foreigners ? They are
air Eoeishmen. Greeks were conquered !

by the Turks, but they were (like all other na4
tions they conquered) attacked by them without
provocation. It was not a: war for injury or insult
received, for jealousy of power, or the support of
an ally, contests which ought to end.-when satis-
factio4 or •submission is obtained ; it- was a'worl
having for its aim conquest, and
.for its principle Et.
right to the dominion. of the whole earth ;
war which asserted that all the Sovereigns were
usurpers, and' that the deposing and putting
them to death was a sacred duty. Do the laws
of nations establish that such a conquest 07°
right of possession ? They on the. contrary de-
clare,
that such conquest is usurpation. The
conquered were never admitted by the Turks to
the rights of citizens, or fellow subjects, unless
they abjure their religion and their country.''
They .became slaves; and as 7 according to their
cowardly law, the Turks have a right, al ail
times, to put to death their p, isoners, the conquered
'and their posterity, for ever, are obliged annualLY
to redeem their heads, by paying the price set on
them ! They are excluded from all offices in, the
State. It is death for- a conquered Gree,i; to rnarig
a .Turkish woman, or even to cohabit with a corzl-
mon prostitute of that nation. They are. in eve"
respect still treated. as enemies. They are -still
called and distinguished by the name of their
.nation, •or•• rather of the religion they.profess!;
and a Turk is never 'called- tr Greek, though 1119
family should have been settled for genera'
.tions in Greece ; nor is a Greek called a
Turk though his ancestors had lived centurics
• •
in a 'Turkish .province. The testimony of a -
Greek is not valid in a court of judicature, when
contrasted with that of a Turk. They are di-
tinguished by ,a different dress. It is doe: 111
wear the Same apparel as that of a Turk. Even
their houses are painted of a different c()l°°
r.
In fine, they are in the same situation they were
the day they were conquered,—tolgllN distinct°
a nation ; and they have, therefore, the On°
right nova as they then had, to free themselves
from the barbarous usurpers of their cuitotrt,
whose conduct to all the nations they. have 4011-
quered merits the eternal execration of mankind;'

Quebec Papers arrived this morning to the 181 -
August, and New Brunswick to the 15th Alg•
[From the Quelwx Paper of the 17th August.]
The meeting of merchants and others of 014
city, on the subject of the restriction of our grs
and flour, took place on Wednesday, conform'
ably to the notice given. We trust, whatever
representations may be made from the Can 3"
to the Imperial Parliament on the subject, it Will
be heard with that attention whith the import—
ance of the case demands, and the result will be
what justice requires it should be. Justice has
been done to Ireland on this head ; why the Co-
lonies should be debarred of similar rights, far
equitable- rights, at least, we must consider our
claims to be, no justifiable reason can be
as-
signed ;—to ruin the Colonies for a consideration
of no kind of importance, if at all available,
to
the United Kingdom, is to adopt a plan •gain4t
all rules of wisdom, prudence,_and good policY"

[Extract of a Letter from NOrfo.llc, 12th August.]
4c It is .very sickly at City Point, Bert
and the other different landing places on ;am'
river. . Two 'or three ships have lost a part ar
their crews, already. The sickness which- pre-
vails at these places is of a bilious nature, suc;l
as generally attacks ships' crews up the rit'z'
the summer."

jEctract.of a Letter from Ifavanne.b, 2d Augost.j. -
" On the arrival of the Hornet here, the J. 7.,
Went on board, and asked. Captain READ
was his liiteintiOn•to fire a salute, that they
would answer it gun for gun. Captain
replied, he• -should not fire a salute. Thi,
owing- to thecircumstanoe, that -when t
Laatgct
READ was here before, the Admiral did nct treat
him with those •,eivilities .with which he. treate
the Commitiders of Majesty's vessels. War'
then in pOrf." •
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small scale, but we understand that the:.
give a very. correct idea of those interesting P';
we recorwneliao
sessions of the British Crown, and
them to the attention of every one disP°std• s'•
thetle last report of • tip
Co!ohle
emigrate to those valuable and healthy

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center promoting- Christian 1110
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of
ti)lard(:. incorporated Society for the Pr°l}o 11
tMtuhetairotGainel' Gospel in Foreign Parts," iq1.,,,0ce
at the Guildhall, on. Tuesday last, from to S.
haubrcyh,pwleah(eireed thei3y ctahuesea:vf. tp37,:tio,nA:oo,
vas
slemen of the Society proceedco I,-
sti,
Davis, B.). Vicar of St. Nicholas, in tts''' ,„ 13.
from the Mb chapter Ist Corinthians, verse
cc Watch ye, stand pst in the pith, quit .:.I.ol4dapda
men, be itrong."--7F or the proCeedings of, the 1 Co
see the first page.—The collection arnounte(
S'r ifenrY
321.05. 1.-}d„ . Sir F. Fovvke, Bart. and
Halford, Ilart. held the plates at the Sntith p"oio,,r-,;!
Rev. Dr. Madan,-and R. Cheslyn, Esq. at
North Door,

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HIS MAJESTY.

. - - -
IVirtITA,Ry
HONOURS PAID TO HIS _MAJESTY
ON SHOOTER'S HILL.
On Sunday evening the Commandant of the
troops at Woolwich, understanding that the
KING was to pass by that place on the following
Morrilag., on his-way to Rarnsgate, issued an or-
der that they should be all under arms the next
Morning, with 'their best dresses and accoutre-
ments, at an early hour, in order to proceed
from tleir quarters, and take their stations on
the road through which•his Majesty was to pass,
and receive him with military honours. About
'Hire o'clock yesterday morning, that fine body)
:the Foot Artillery, consisting of about 1500 men,
marched from their barracks, under the command
of General RamsAYs and halted on the road
eastward of
.Shooter's Hill. About half past
nine, the Horse Artillery, with ten pieces of
cannon, and ammunition waggons, proceeded in a
different direction, and occupied a station nearer to
London, a short distance from the Earl of Moira
71avern, The. 84th regiment of Foot, commanded
- LY DAuBENY; at 'the same time
1114rched from the artillery barracks to a position_
V)"e.t.,hat of the Foot Artillery. These were
by the corps of Royal. Marines, consist-
t"h'";i;‘,,three hundred men, who marched from
11,1 'arracks under the command of Colonel
1:411s) and occupied that patt of the road next
the. hill. These 'three bodies. were accom-
- ricaniel.l by their respective bands, fifers, drummers,
Tel' and exhibited a grand and beautiful spectacle.
1. ''Y were immediately drawn out in single
'nes) one on each side of the road, and all the
rs
°ffice in their full dresses were in atteadance,
41,0:14dY to take their proper stations at the time
f 1"
the KING was to arrive. The line extended
trf near the Red Lion public-house to the' Earl
w, "%IRA, a distance of near half a mile, and it
tie " calculated that the number of soldiers on
gr
hut; amounted to abobt.twolhousand five
lee'ldred• The weather during the forenoon
oflug remarkably fine, several thousand persons
ar,,, all descriptions, among whom were a
-tisat 'number of well-dressed ladies and gen-
erne% some in barouches and gigs, and others
trfoot, proceeded from \Voolwich, Black-
ernseath , Eltham, and places adjacent, and placed
air'lves On different parts of the road, and
' the common on each side- of the road,
Ire anxious to take a farewell view of their So-.
threign Previous to his temporary absence from,
tiese Kingdoms. The high hedge on the north
41-I'4 °f the road was covered with spectators ;
1)1 several carriages, filled with company, were
to On the common on the other side ; but by
ttir the most numerous groups were waiting
Ictie slnee of the hill near the Bull Tavern,l
~titlthe Royal carriage could not be driven
lae
wonted speed, they expected to have
At; and longest view 'of his MAJESTY.--?In
44 half-past eleven o'clock all eyes were
th:1"11Y directed towards Blackheath, of which
ra,,oYt had a clear view, in hopes . every inCo.:
its a that the Royal cavalcade would make
and .11trance: another hour passed away,
‘vishi alehP°Ple still continued without their;
4 general. Ing gratified. About one o'clock
ic,-j"eral. opinion began to prevail that the
r\ ()Neu,. lead
changed his rcute ; and as no
kr "ad been received from Government
being th ng out the troops on this occasion, it
Ivoai
wi ch e spontaneous act' of the Commandant at
clued the- officers themselves seemed in-
that
at: illink that his MAJESTY would not pass
liOt w" 3 • It was, however; evident that he had
"erl't ehY Eltham, because intelligence of that
the sy:°l-Ihl have been brought- to the officers in
. .
t''ace of a quarter of an hour. The soldiers
a ontintled under arms ; and at leg about
carte g
before two o'clock an orderly. dragoon
that galloPPina along the road -with information
at tire re 0
ten im 'NG was approaching; and in less than
traaep!ultes after, his Att./EST!' came up in his
tams, carriage, attended by an escort of dra-
tired In the moan time a I.toyal salute was
ofar.„ the guns in the artillery-ground, the
the s°l rn
took their proper stations in the line
the
col ,
diers presented arms, the bands struck up
aati
I. °nal anthem of " God save the King," and
kt th„,("rs were lowered as 'his MAJESTY passed..
alteat,' sante time all the spectators testified their,
tlt.ra ("ate loyalty
bY tk' to their Sovereign, the Gen-
Y way. a 'ing off their hats, and the Ladies
'kart 'ng their; handkerchiefs. 1l is MAJESTY
r fij t
Cll atie g Ity !gratified by this mark of respect-
avaP which n, frequently took off the travelling
iron] tii,en he wore, and bowed most graciously.
!141de. s ,„"rriage window to the assembled mut-
tha•4-he troops and the spectators remained
va';.sa.,a,tv'''s which they occupied until the Royal
th` of thelih3°4 of sight, by 'passing to the other
reg "in the troops were then marched to
of co -Peet' •
mpan "e quarters, and the different groups
'I a Y retired to their homes. During the
:)f they g,:was Hying from the most.elevated parts
'I" of 41'`aller'Y Ground, and another from the
*9Verndroog Castle on Shooter's. Hill.

,ar.--
The b DEAL, SEPT. 24, IE2I.
this , 44°Yal Squadron arrived in the Downs.
lea(l'"lnQ from Portsmouth, and remain. in
it : 'ness foi h; A r
--•S ifLAJESTY'S embarkation, which
morrow
ecllfidently expected will take place to-
sent crw rnornitliq at Ramsgate. Pilots have been
s I 1 board Of each of the ships composing the' kraft " from this place, but it is at present on.
Caul's:- wheilier his MAJESTY will proceed to
de- a's),Ostend, or Antwerp; this will no doubt
Seueri),4(l upoi) the state of the wind and weather.
Iv e°' the weatherw prove favourable to.morrow,
lb, i,`3(Pect !witness a very gay spectacle, as
4bd "NI boatmen Will be afloat with their boats,
ip();,.:1".(loubt the assemblage of pleasure vessels.i.,
ti,l „I-lover,
~t.bairisgate Margate, &-c.
11;‘ 44-lerabl Thewill b _
.4 iv,
e•
' Royal Squadron consists. of letit,t;kjilEsl-Y's yacht the Royal George, Liffey,
kpd , Ind, Cur„ elecn, Lee, 'I cutters
an_ several ca..
' srnaller vesseh.