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RELATIVE ?C T H

BET‘siE EN GI, EAT BRIT.AiN AND
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AMERICA.

CORRESPONDENCE hrsTwEEN THE BRITISH MINIS-
TER AND THE AMERICAN S 1 REVARIES,
ACCOMPANIED THE PRESIDENTS LATE MEbSAta

TO CONGRESS.

[Continued iron Teiterdqyj

IROl%'l Ensiu.su To MR. SMITH.'

, , . _Washington, Aut;ust 14, •18t9.
Strt—l have. 'the honour to acictioaledge the re-ceipt of 'your, le4er, of the gdi inst. informing me t hat
you had just receiyettaletter from Mr.Pinckhey inclos;•
•
ing a printed paper, purporting re, be a copy of a Ois
patch taitne .from Mr. Calming, which stateS.,
among Other things, -" front the report ot -your
conversations with Mr. Madi.:-,ort, Mr. Gallatin; and
Mr. Stuithi. it appears :==•
" Ist. That the. American Government' is -pre
pared, in the event of his Majesty:, consenting 'l6
• withdraw the Orders in Council of January and No.-
vember, 1807, to withdraw 'contemporaneously on its
part, the interdiction of its harbours to ships of war,
and all &on-intercourse and Non-iniportation Acts so
tar as respects Great Britain, lea% ing theM in: force
;with respe4 to France, and the Powers which adopt
or ad under, herdecrees.
" 2d. That America is willing to renounce, during
the present war, the pretension of carrying on, in
tinie of war, all trade with the enemies colonies, from
w Welt she was excluded-during peace.
-" 3d. Great Britain, for the purpose of securing tli4
'operation of the Embargo, and the. bow fide inten'.
tion of America to prevent her citizens from trading
• with France and the Powers adopting and acting 1112'
der the French, decrees, is to be consideied as being
at liberty to capture all such American vessels A; may
be found attempting [to trade,j with the ports of
any of these Powers, without which security for the
obscrvance of the,Embargo, the raising it norninally
with respe(t jo Great .Britain alone, would, in faCt,
raise it, with respect to all the world."
The explanations which ybu request from the up-
on that subject shall be given -with candour; and I
will proceed,, accordingly; to lay before you an ab-
straa• of the communications which I Made to his •
Majesty's Government relative to the unofficial con-
versations which I. had held with Mr.
(then Secretary of Sta,e) Mr..Gallatin and' mysi.-1,1, at
the titue,and upon the occasion alluded to by his Ma-
jesty's Secretary of State (Mr. Canning in that part
of his, instructions. to we,. of which you infarin
•rneyou. have rmei‘,,al a plimed letter from Mr.
Pinckney.- •

Upon referring tolny dispatches, addressed to his
Majesty's Government of the 3d and 4:h December
last, in which these communioaticins are detailed, I
conclude that the conve;•sations alluded to niuq have
been held some-days,prc viouS to that pet tod,and were
to. the following .effect . • •
.Mr.. Madison, (thyn Secretary of State) is repre-
sented by me to have urged varioos arghtnems tend-
in to prove, that the 'United States had exerted all
their efforts to pel•suacle the French Governtnent to
withdraw their unjust restrictions upon neinsalcom-
merce, .and that recourse ungl,t, have beenhad to
measures of more activity and decision against France
than mere • rernonstrances) but that to the mean
time Great Britain had issued her Ordersju Council, .
before it was known , whether the United States
Would acquiesce in the aggressions of France, and
thereby rendered it impossible to distinguish be-
tween the conduct •of the two belligerents, who
had equally co:nrnitted aggressions against the United
States:

AI-ter some other observations, .Mr. MadisOn is
'stated by me at that time to have added that, as tho.
World must be convinced ,that America had in vain
taken all the means in her power to • olitain front
Great Britain and France a- just attention to slier
rights as a neutral power, by representations and re-
monstrances,: that she would be fully justified in
havihg recourse to hostilities with either belligerent,
and that she. only hesitated to do so from the diffi-
cUlty Of contending with both; but that; she must
be driven even to endeavour to maintain her rights
against.the two greatest powers in the world, un-
less either of then) should relax their restridioni
upon.
.neutral commerce : in Which case the
United States. ‘vbold at once side. ,with.. that
power against ..thetbtlier 'which [night Continue its
aggressions.

That every opinion
.whio'h lie entertained
,respea-
,ing the,best inteiestsof his country led him to wish
that a good understanding should take place between
Great Britain . and the United States, and that he
thought that the obiious advantages- which would
thereby result to..both countries.were a sufficient
pledge of the sincerity of his sentiments. •
TheSe observations, Sir, I beg leave to remark,
were.made to rue by Mr. Madison, about a Month
after the intelligence had been received in this coun-
try of the rejettion by his Majesty's Government at
the proposition made through Mr. Pinekney by the
President, for t hn removal of the Embargo as .respeCti..
ed Great Britain, upon condition that the Orders in
Council should be withdrawn as respeeted'the United
StateS; and his sentiments were, as I conceived, ex-
pressed to me, in order that'.l inight convey theni to
-his Majesty's. Government,' so. .asto *lead to a .rer
consideration of the proposition above mentioned,
with a view to the adjustment of the differences upon
that subject between the respective. countries. But I
never considered that Mr.. Madison meant that the
Government of the United States would ~pledge
themselves beyond the proposition respecting the E-
mbargo as above stated-4ecause that was the extent
of the power Of the President by the Constitution of
the United State's.

I. understood, very distinctly, that the. observa-
tions of the Secretary of State, were intenued.co con-
vey.an.opinion as to what ought, and would be the
course pursued by the Uitied States, in the event of
his Majesty's Orders in Council being withdrawn.
In. these sentiments and opinions. you COnellt red,
as I collected from toe tenor of sevoral conversa-
tions which I held with you at that period.
With resped to the second point; as stated in your
letter. to be contained in a " Dispatch frown
Canning," I beg leave to offer the folloWing
nation

In the course of a private interview I find with
Mr. Gallatin (the: Secretary of' theTreasery), tw. in-
Innstel that the 11QU-intercourse law, which wa) then