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RAIL WA Y COMMITTEES

(T Ms DAY.)

HOUSE ()F LORDS.
2AILWAY.
The C •
ommittee on this Bill met to-day at eleven o'clock, the
Chichester in the chair.
kr* JAMES opened the case for the promoters.
c Hoerr and Mr. Fossil-1r appeared on behalf of the• Town
th, of Briehan, and the Hon. Stuart Wortley, Chairman of
Scottish Midland Junction Railway.
r' HoPE proposed that a clause should be introduced into the
k. ' binding the promoters not oppose a line of railway which
b
h projected by the Scottish Midland Junction Company
441 brileton to Brichan. The Learned Counsel also claimed to
;atd against the preamble of the Bill.
RJAMBS argued a ainst the claim to be heard against the
4,tab • • g g
hh., thasmuch as the opponents had on a tomer occasion
'7awn opposition to that stage of the Bill. He also could not
14,,-sebter to te insertion of a clause relating to the construction of
Niiteb4llline h
of railway, as the general Act on such matters was
~„tly stringent.
`nv room was then cleared.
k4,21,T a short deliberation the parties were re admitted, and in-
aiai„, 'rci by the CHAIRMAN that the opponents could not be heard
4,4 the preamble of the Bill. The Committee had also agreed
kw no clause should be introduced relative to the project of
liner line by the rival interest.
r• William Marshall, traffic accountant, was than called to
ita'ev that ,re the traffic of the line, and in answer to the Noble Chairman,
tho traffic increase in goods and passengers, but
'ciOily in the latter, as the population had consideraLly in •
the
"ne wi during the List few years, in all the districts through which
ll run.
he
ere
was then cleared, and, after a brief deliberation, the
p:lts wcre called in, and informed by the Chairman that the
k'arnbie was agree.t to, as were also the clauses, without amend-
.,„tr and that the Bill could be reported.
411eir Lordships ti cr. rose.
Ea

AMID-EMI AND HAWICX, LINE.
theUn reassembling of the Committee this morning,
firus
' •acrr proceeded to make his general reply on behalf of
„he Pron3oters of the Bill. He stated if the Committee were of
n that it would be advisable to make a double line of railway,
-"8 instructed on behalf of the promoters, to agree to such a
eilNition, and it could be done without raising any extra amount
The line as at present laid out was intended for a
Ingle nee but as lt would be connected with the North British
d Tay. and the plant belonging to that line being sufficient for a
to
line, no extra expense would be incurred on the Edinburgh
te
.Rawick. The power which the Company possessed of bor-
tPg Money would be quite sufficient to enable them to lay down
It:eablcluble line of rails. The Learned Counsel concluded his address
tt Disc re on the Committee to allow the preamble of the Bill
branders were then ordered to withdraw, and on their re.
41kion,
,
th `at CHAIRMAN briefly said that the 'Committee were of opinion
the preamble Of the Bill bad been proved, and inquired
tlkethet the parties interested intended to introduce any amended
ugic
fir' Burke, the Parliamentary agent, said that no amended
tp,b4a Were intended to be proposed. When the general Rail-
-4'441 for Scotland, now before Parliamen", was passed it would
~,,assary to have an amended clause introduced into the Bill.
itut"at clauses being unopposed were then passed, at:d the Com-
Se adjourned.

GLASGOW BRIDGES BILL.
01t... Committee on this project met to.day at twelve o'clock,
Itedesdale in the chair.
AUSTIN, in opening the case, said this was a scheme for
liCklit"ting a new bridge over the Clyde, in order to replace the
I:l''''Ps' Bridge, which was now rendered imps ssable. and had
4.'' closed to the pUblic for some time. • The bridge had
Ittect for Sew years. aLd had been widened •
and improved as far
ePracticable by the late Mr. Telford. Mr. Walker, the Go.
ht '''tent engineer, had been sent down to survey the river, and
k . h 4,1 prepared three different plans, all of which had been sub-
tt ed to Sir Robert Peel. He had selected one of which
%,..aPProved, a, it appeared the best adapted for the Isc-
1417hodation of the Glasgow people, and which plan was then
ill the the Committee. The .sclicroe met with the approbation of
"',C
influential people in Scotland, and would prove a great
benefit.
Mr •
t,e, • Strang and other witnesses were then ex:'mlned as to the
etteability and expense of constructing the proposed bridge.
there was no opposition the Bill was allowed to pass, and the
."Nttee broke up.

"IZDEI AND WEST I-LIDING JUNCTION
The RAILWAY.
ttf,r. Select Committee to whom the above railway has been
with'ed re.assembled at the usual hour this morning, and proceeded
NI the oPposition to the scheme.
r' George Jackson, of the firm of Jackson and Co., carriers, of
44thester, was called to prove that when the Manchester and
c4rlici Railway was opened, its competition with the Aire and
G
7 and other canals proved highly advantageous to the public,
lht s'nee an amalgamation had been made between the railway and
tasi:handals, the advantages resulting from the competition had
Suclifft, a magistrate of Huddersfield, deposed to the im-
• a'ce of a line running through Bradford, and striking off lo
11,:°rtn-west, as the West Yorkshire would do. The people of
derstield were decidedly opposed to the West Riding line.
Lehr' John Carr of Halifax, put in the traffic tables which had
khe"rauelkerl for the use of the promoters of the West Yorkshire
At • .
William
• Round, a worsted spinner of Bradford, gave very
Bties8ties evidence against the proposed railway. The traffic round
-Word was extremely heavy, and it was therefore highly essential
14_4 a railway intended to accommodate that town should have
e
t best possible gradients. The statioc of the proposed railway at
idford was I'4 feet above the level of the earth, and considered
people of Bradford to be highly obj, ctio‘nahle.
air Tr ,
• zienry Hartop, manager of the Bowling Iron Works in the
wrhourhood of Bradford, and Mr. Serjeant, of the Barclay Iron
gave corroborative testimony.
tt, NOULE CHAIRMAN here intimated the wish of the Commit-
• Pass from the traffic to the engineering evidence. They
' inclined to think the result of the inquiry would depe
esti nd
itelY upon the. force of that evidence.
itithr• Sergeant TALYOURD said he should beprepared to go into
• evidence after he had examined me or two other witnesses,
:;e evidence would be of a general character.
r. Abbott proved that the Leeds and Manchester Company in
k 3 Undertook to make a branch to Halifax, but they failed to do
they were compelled in 1843.
Mr' JorL7than Ackroyd, a manufacturer of Halifax, proved that
dEbcrtPtbc bet,-ecn that town and Bradford was of the heaviest
tt4aleio• Richard Carter, a surveyor, of Halifax, proved that the
tiokabt','
N°n the West Riding line were inconvenient and objec-
ie,
Young, a civil engineer, who h.‘d been professionally em-
-449" en the Leeds and Manchester and London and Birmingham
kt:',,and who was the resident engineer of the Leeds and Brad-
proved that Mr. Ilawkeshaw's estimases were inadequate
th the construction of the works of the proposed railway, while
tskadient and stations were highly objectionable. It would
trls,,°erY little more money to make them favourabl The state-
ti in the report of the Board of Trade upon these lines rela
t° tl•e expense of tunnelling in the West Riding districts of
shoe
rk
e were incorrect.
did e witness was closely cross-examined by Mr. AUSTIN, but be
f't appear to swerve from his former evidence.
Lovel proved that the line between Loughmore was most ob-
‘iPs',-'able. It was upon a very severe gradient, and elitered Bradford
trtt,," unnecessary elevation. A better line could be cbtained, with
tit,' favourable gradients and a lower station, at very little addi.
Letw"Pense. It would be extremely difficult to form a junction
lir, :en the West Riding line and the Leeds and Bradford Valley
The line was decidedly ill calculated to accommodate the
Niill,,trattio of thedistrict ; and he was confident a better one
ue Obtained if time were allowed.
Robert Stephenson, the engineer to the London and Bir.
4tld4"arn Company, confirmed the testimony of Mr. Locke. He.
itt that he could lay down a better line then the West Riding
i'he were allowed.
Committee shortly al erwards adjourned till to-morrow at 11.

ROUSE OF COMMONS.
Op GROUP A.
"e meeting of the Committee this morning, Mr. Mellor re.
he examination of witnesses in favour of the
tip),"
'3l OD7, CROYDON(' CHATHAM, AND
04PrATGTozir (ATMOSPAIERIC LINE).
Zefirst witness called was
betrlleii Colley Sherrard, civil engineer, who stated that he had
employed, in the course of October last, by the London and
Company to lay down a line from the present Croydon line
ue ~-,salouth, with directions to choose the most direct that could
447 9 without any gradient greater than lin 50. He con-
tlikt7 the line he heti laid down the best that could be made
ttkel,g.h Kent. He was not prepared to speak of the merits or
%in Its of the atmospheric principle. He had examined the line
tate,. Kingstown to Dalkey, and was satisfied of the
sphi"linical success of the principle, but was not informed on the
lipeeet of its commercial success. The expense of the proposed
Wolild be about 18,000/ per mile. Tim expense of the works,
fro lens, atmospheric tube, electric telegraph, and land, for the line
4444 fhe unction of the Croydon line to Chatham, would be
Ir,, 841/, j
The expense of the line from Chatham to Ch,lhani
be 343 8551. This included all the items which were in-
Vritiled in the estimate of the line between Croydon and Chatham,
• opo the exception of the atmospheric tube. The reason th s
i was
tipp ,tted was, that this part of the line was to be worked by locomo.
lip; `l.actien. The expense of the Orpington branch (atmospheric)
Ihs ,nold be about 120,0001., and the total expecse of the line from
"fiction with the Croydon line to Orpington would be 890,716/.
• ele estimates all included the expense of purchasing land.
11ile1°8 cross.examined by Mr. WRANGIIAM, the witness stated
Isp; 'ere were three tunnels in the couise of the line, one oi
110;ek° Would pass under Fort Pitt. It would be possible to blow
krt, from the tunnel. He had never heard of such things
htliji done in time of war, from sewers or other passages under
-hgg• The atmospheric portion of the line would not be fit
• , :locomotive line. If ust das such it would be a very bad
4 The • • could be used as an atmospheric
tie locomotive portion
41 would make a very good one. He believed the Corn-
b4447h. i: nel_way had worse gradients than one in fifty, and was a loco-
. k m,..1r
'Oteg. ""reeant WRANGHAM said that the Cornwall Railway had a
hit "eine, but Mr. Sherrard said he knew it to be a locomotive

kr• c
111 .• citerrard was then cross.exainined by Mr. MErtnEwEriteit
hl the Mode of draining those parts of the line cn which the
• 1h gradients occur.
sitt:rWataaa RIDDEL, who appeared on the part of the Commis
kP -
the Navigation of the River Medway, cross examined
.11'nerrard, but no important point was made out by him.
tkur.: MaaREWETIIER here stated that Colonel Cockburn was now
• , and requested that his evidence be now taken.
41, LSergeant WiIANUHAM said that before the examination of
• 4;tner witness he wished to make an objection to the further
'tittle" of this Bill, founded on the evidence of the former
bitid;'', who had stated the intention of the Company to erect a
kir.l"er the river Medway, for which the consent of the Ad-
art,-"`I had net been obtained. No bridge could be made over
444 Part °fa creek, river, ors rm of the sea, in which the tide flows
4te,-jecti,Tvii without the consent of the Admiralty. There-
.'
• tottiii' 'oe Bill were to pass through both Houses of Parliament, it
Wrtt,,,,n,". be possible to make any use of it. He (Mr. Sergeant
0%4 -5" to) thought that the Committee must direct Mr. Mellor to
'thl Ie the consent of the Admiralty to the passing of the river by
pn
thtltidfle, and if it were not produced to put a stop to the evidence
147 Part of the Croydon Company.
tll e.: WILMORE said that the objection was entirely new.ln
i. 7," which the non.consent of the Admiralty had caused
ther,3-4ection of Bills the AdiniraAy had made formal objections to
Itsso. But even if the tormat consent of the Admiralty weie
it could not he eXpee.ed that the Committee would lejeCt
Thal merely because it was not produced on the Outwit.
CitaIRMAN thought it was necessary to produce the consent
At Admiralty.
• ItOktr:hi,::::::tt.g WAS willing to produce it, but could nit produce
*h.: Sergeant WRANGHAM would withdraw his objection if Mr.
ore •
satu he had the consent, and could Froduce it.
qMr• the, i'VILstoRE said that he had not obtained the fiumal consent
44VstiraIty• but that he had no doubt hut he could obtain it.

The CHAIRMAN thought it was sufficient to produce the consent
of the Admiralty any time before the conclusion of the case on
the part of the Croydon line, but that it would give mote satis-
faction to the Committee to produce it at once. _ .

Mr. WILMORE undertook to produce the consent of the Admi.
rally to morrow.

MERREWETII ER, on the part of the
SOUTH-EASTERN EXNE,

then called and examined,

Colonel Cockburn, Royal Artillery, and head of the Laboratory
at Woolwich, who gave evidence as to the danger to be appre-
hended from a railway passing by Messrs. Hall's powder mills.
Mr. Wfiznaaz then proceeded with the evidence on the part of the