The Sun.
London, England, 1844-05-16 00:00:00

SEGAR DUTIES.,

In answer to a question from Mr. EWART,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated
that he should not be able to move that the House do 're-
solve itself into a Committee of the whole House to con-
sider the question of the Sugar Duties, until Monday

June 3.
INTERFERENCE OF PEERS AT ELECTIONS.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE postponed the motion of which
he had given notice for this evening relative to the in-
terference of Peers in the elections of Members of Par-

liament till this day fortnight.
NOTICES OF MOTION.
Mr. WARD gave notice that this day fortnight he
should move that the House do resolve itself into a
Committe of the whole House to consider the subject of
the Temporalities of the Irish Church.
HILL COOLIES.
Lord SANDON moved for returns of extracts of dis-
patches from the Governor-General of India, on the sub-
ject of the emigration of Hill Coolies.—Agreed to.
COUNTING OUT THE HOUSE.
Mr. PAKINGTON hoped he might be allowed,
without disrespect to the House in general, or to any
Member of it, to complain of what he believed was the
unusual and somewhat uncourteous mode in which the
House was counted out at half-past four o'clock yester-
day, before the usual hour of proceeding to business.
No one was more willing than himself to agree to what
he believed the sense of the House. If it was the opinion
of the House that all legislation should be confined to
her Majesty's Government he was willing to consent to
it, but if upon subjects to which the Government had not
leisure to turn their attention legislation could be
carried on by the exertion of individual Members,
they ought not to be exposed to the sort of impedi-
ment he met with yesterday. On the Wednesday before
there was no House; yesterday it was counted out;
and Wednesday next was the Derby day, when, of
course, there would be no House again.—(Laughter.)
If he was wrong in the grounds he had taken, he should
be happy to retract what he had said. He could not
complain of any Hon. Member in particular, because he
did not know who it was that moved that the House be
counted out last night, for he was not aware that it had
been counted out until he was told so by an Hon. Friend
whom he met in Parliament-street.----(Laughter.)
The dropped Orders were then re appointed, and the
subject dropped.
DISSENTERS' CHAPELS BILL.

In answer to a question from Sir T. WILDE,
Sir R. PEEL was understood to say that as there were
two Orders to-morrow before the Dissenters' Chapels
Bill, namely the Customs:Bill and the Factories Bill, and
as it was probable, therefore, that the Dissenters' Chapels
Bill could not come on for discussion before a late hour,
he would propose to read the Bill a second time to-mor-
row, and take the discussion upon the principle of the
Bill on the motion for going,. into Committee.
Dr. BOWRING said there were a great number of
persons who were anxious that this Bill should be dis-
cussed on an early occasion.
Sir R. PEEL said the Bill could not be fully diap
cussed if brought on at a late hour to-morrow, and
therefore he proposed to take the discussion on the
motion for going into Committee.
NATIONAL EDUCATION IN IRELAND.
Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL wished to know from the
Right Hon. Gentleman opposite, when the remaining
estimates would be:brought forward ? There were two
of those—that for National Education on which an increase
was to be proposed this year, and upon
which some discussion was likely to arise ;
there was also the grant to Maynooth, which was an
annual subject of discussion. It would be very conve-
nient to know what time it was intended to bring them
on, whether before or after the Whitsun Holidays ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
would give an answer to- morrow.
THE WHITSUN HOLIDAYS.

.
Mr. COLLETT wished to know from the Right Hon.
Gentleman when the Whitsun Holidays would begin and
end.—( Laugh ter.)
Sir R. PEEL said that he proposed that the House
shout d adjourn from Friday: week till the Thursday fol-
lowing. The House would meet on Friday.
Mr. MACKINNON begged to ask the Rignt Hon.
Baronet (the Secretary of State for the Home Depart-
ment, whether, if he postponed his motion with respect
to prison discipline, he would have any objection to grant
certain papers which he required for the purpose of elu-
cidating the subject ?
Sir J. GRAHAM said he was of opinion that the dis-
cussion of the subject would be attended with the most
salutary effects, and if any papers were necessary he
would be happy to furnish his Hon. Friend with them
before the discussion took place.
Mr. MACKINNON then postponed his motion until
that day fortnight.
THE STATE TRIALS.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE moved for and obtained the
following returns :—Return of all monies paid, or to be
paid, to Mr. Hodges or any short-hand writer or writers
fur notes taken of the proceedings in the Court of Queen's
Bench, Dublin, previous to and during or since the
trial of The Queen v. O'Connell and others.
Also, a return of all moneys paid, or to be paid, for any
notes taken of the proceedings at Conciliation Hall, be-
tween the Ist day of August, 1843, and the present time.
PROMOTION IN THE NAVY.
Sir CHARLES NAPIER rose to bring before the
House the present state of the naval establishment of the
country. He did so entirely from a regard to the in-
terests
of the service. He had studied this subject since
the
time of the war, and he thought that in the present
state of the navy list, it would be impossible to carry on
a war with vigour, in consequence of the advanced age of
the superior officers of the nay.
subject before the House,ln 1842 he brought the
moved that admirals of
advanced age should retire upon a pension of 50s. a day.
Ho brought on that •the 22d of March.
In 1843 he brought the subject again on'
before the House,
and his motion was seconded bayg(taLlis neeryoible Lord, the
Member for South Staffordshire
received a severe reprimand from the Hon. Baronet who
site. The question was one quite unconnected withne oppo-
site.
politics. Whatever Ministers might be sitting upon the
Treasury benches, whether they were Whigs or whether
they were Tories, they seeemed to be equally inattentive to
the interests of the navy. He had alluded to the subject
• when the navy estimates were brought forward in 1843,
and the Right Hon. Baronet had stated that there had
previously been a retired list, but that it had been abo-
-1
i lished by recommendation of the Commission. Now,
the Right Hon. Baronet had spoken tke truth in stating
this, but he had not spoken the whole truth. He had
. not told the 11011S0 that officer 3 were forced to put them.