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ing that a Bill of a similar nature had been lest this
Se,sion in the other House which had originated
there, still lie thought tiieir I.Ordship% would not be
indisposed to received another Bill, having the same
general t,bjeti in view, but Worded in a different
manner ; and instead 'of proposing, as the former
8.11, io p,,:pe!nate the prohibition, to render it a
Bill of Suvension of the Prerogative from time to
time. His Right Hdn. Friend opposite (the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer), had himself never shewn
any_hostility to the measure. On the contrary, he
understood him to be friendly to its princiPle ; and
therefore he hoped it would not be deemed unpar-
liamentary, if he now ventured to, recommend to
his Right Hon. Friend, as one of the confidential
advisers of his Miajesty, to endeayour to remove the
obstacles, to this Bill in another plaee, and to attain,
if possible, his, Majesty's consent to its adansdon
slid discussion in the other House. , -The Hon.
Member concluded by moving. for leave to, bring
iri the Bill.

The CHACELLOR of the EXCHEQUER. said, lip
felt no disposition of hostility to the motion of his
Hon. friend, nor any wish to throw obstacles in
the way of the Bill. At the same time, he de-
clared that the principle now avowed by the Hon.
Member,' namely, that of making ,the Bill a tem-
porary- measure, was one the most likely to Obtain
lin it success, and therefore it was that he had- re-
commended this line of proceeding. :Be had always
thought it improper to appoint to such aversions
while the Committee of Finance continued to sit,
anJ•if it should be. deemed right to abolish, upon
their recommendation, any offices on the demise of
tire present occupiers or possessors, of course no re-
versions would be assigned, and the Bill, solar as
it !elated to such .particular appointments, would be
unnecessary. He should not objet to the .tnotion
of his Hon. Friend Jot. leaVe'to bring in the Bill,

reserving to himself the right of -nioving in the
Committee on the Bill an amendment of the title in
these words, " fora time to be limited." With re-
spect, however, to the advice
.given him by
,his Hon.
Friend, as one of his Majesty's Miaisters, touching
the counsel it mlght sbe his duty to give his Ma-
lesty upOn the subject of this Bill, although he con-
-sidered it by no means unparliamentary, or impro-
per for his Hon. Friend to suggest to him that ad-
vice, yet it would be extremely improper for him
to declare in that House what the advice might
be which he should feel it his 'duty to offer to_his
Majtisty elsewhere. Leave was given to bring in
the Bill.
The second reading of the Irish Grand Jury Bill
was postponed to Tuesday, the 15th of May.
- Sir CHARES POLE rose for the purpose of advert,-
ieg to an injustice which had taken place in the
Naval Serviee. He would not use harsh language
on the oecnsione since he was fully convinced that
the at of injustice arose merely from ignorance and
inadvertency. He Would now state to the I-louse
the grounds on which he meant to trouble themer-
Some papers `would be necessary to elucidate' his
statement, and for these he proposed to move; the
first were letter's that had passed between Admiral
Montague and the FirSt Lord of the Admiralty:--
those letters would strew that at the' very moment
when the Admiral's son was refused examination,
other Officers had passed, one of whom. was iname-
. diately appointed a Lieutenant: Mr. Montague's
actual time of .previous service was out in August,
,when, it Le had passed, be would have been a
.Lieutenant in the Mediterranean fleet. For this in-
jury there was now no remedy, 'tinless his commis-
Tsion were antedated. He would next call for a let-
ter from Lord Collingwcod, strewing, that at that
time a commission was vacant f`or Mr. Montague.
He o ould not trouble the House with any detai., as'
he had heard that a remedy was intended in the
present case ; but before be sat down, he .felt that
be 'A as n y doing his duty to press upon them the
oc, urrence of the same unintended injury to others
on di-Aant services; for instance, there must be
.many similar situations among 'Officers serving in
the East and West Indies: It could not be known
there, that the regulations of the new Naval Col-
lege, though they originated in 1806,, did not fully
.ppely tili 1808 ; and to make it impossible to hate
any furtbtr doubt upon the sebjed, he would move
an Address to his Majesty, that the Ninth Article
of the 2d chapter of Naval treerualon, of Dvcem-
ber, 1806, be transmitted to all Captains on foreign
eratrens, and. all Boards, and 'others connected with
tire examination of offices; and also that such other
parts of the code as were applied to examination
should be selected and transmitted. :Yet he felt
that the remedy for the peculiar case of which he
spoke, would mire so much better from the Ad-
miralty„that on an es,urance of that remedy's being
intended, lie should not press the questiote
Mr. Roeuer WARD thanked the Hon. Baronet
for. the mildness with which'he brought forty and his,
niotioe, but conceived that with reference NI the
pvers which he mentioned, they ought to have
been brought forward before the House could adopt
Any Ilecite motion but to save any nriseoncepriele
he would narrate the matter in its progress. By an
Order of Council so long since as 1773, any Officer,
after ser%ing three years at the. Portsmouth Naval
Academy, and three years on sea, was entitled to
be examined for a higher rank. By the new code
the time at school was nc.t defined by years, but a
certain course of educati ,g) was to be fully gene
through ; and after that fear years were to be served
et sea before an examinatioe could be given.: It
happee, d that just a month Oetbre the enactment•of
the new order, the old One had passed the Council,
in the routine of business. . This was in 1806. - The
Lords of the Admiralty did not. give full being to
the new Acauerny, so to abrogate the old, 'till
1808: thus the two were in being together,. but
the laws of service in each were still applying tie
different classes of peraceee An order was issued
to prevent any 'mistakes on this point, and guard-
ing to those who had served under ,the old rules,
the it privilege of passing after three years service at
Sea., At this time Mr. Montague `presented himself
to the examining Captains on the Mediterranean'

station; they; conceiving themselves to be acting
under the new code, 7oulanOt examine him. On less
Ocin four years' service. Admiral Montague applied
to Lord Mulgrare, withthe zeal becoming a father;
Iti,,lfordship laid the case before the 4dmiralty
Counsel, and it was pronounced by him inadmissi-
ble. Lord Mulgrave, feeling' the case one that
pre' ssed.on'the requested#4thuiral Mon-
tague to make his own statentent, ',and submit it to
t.4e Counsel, It was bubmitted, and the same judg-