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London, England, 1844-06-11 00:00:00

SANITORY CONDITION OF THE POOR,

The Marquis of ICORMASTEIYTos;;;asit when the
report respecting the sanitory condition of the poor
would be ready fOr presentation, and also whether
the report would contain any recommendation of a
plan to remedy the evils which were now complained of.
It was absolutely necessary that some step should be
taken to meet the existing evils ; for such was the con-
dition of the poor a; present, that annually as many as
50,000 persons died of fever, arising from the condition
of their dwellings. 'lt appeared from the evidence of
Mr. Lewis, a minister of a parish in Dundee, that the an-
nual cost to that town, in consequence of the prevalence
of fever arising from the condition of the poor, NI as 25,0001.
The subject demanded the greatest consideration of Par-
liament. The information that was necessary might
have been acquired in a quarter of the time that the Go-
vernment had taker. He now wished to ask when the
report would be presented to Parliament, whether any
remedial measure would .be proposed, and whether the
Metropolitan Buildings Act would be carried forward
this session ?

The l)uke of BUCCLEUCH was sensible that there
were a great may evils in the old and the continued
modes of building new towns, but there was a great diffi-
culty in finding out what the remedies might be. A bill
had been brought in for the improvement of the town of
Leeds, but it fell a dead letter in their Lordship's House.
The papers which the Noble Marquis wished to have,
could not be presented within a few days, and he did not
think it was possible in this session to introduce such a
measure.

The Marquis of NORMANBY heard the statement
of his Noble Friend with extreme regret. He had ex-
pected that the case of Leeds would have formed the
foundation of h Government measure. He could only
repeat that he thought • that a very great deal of time
had been wasted in considering that subject ; and he
thought, even with the Noble Duke's explanation, that
more might have been done, with efficient lacal manage-
ment, in the case he had cited.

SEES OF BANGOR AND ST. ASAPH.
Earl YOWLS, after presenting several petitions
against the union of the Sees of Bangor and St. Asaph,
said that he never, on any occasion, approached a
question with such great anxiety as he did on
that occasion, for he felt much on the subject matter of
the petitions he had just presented. On this important
church question he was sorry to find himself opposed to
a Noble Lord and a Right Rev Prelate, whose weight
and character in their Lordships' House made it difficult
for him singly to bring that subject under their notice.
It little became him to waste their Lordships' time by
making any apology for thus ocupying a little of their
attention, and he would therefore as briefly and as satisfac-
torily as possible, hoping, at the same time, that their Lord-
ships would extend to him that favour which he had
always experienced. He would follow up the petitions
he had presented by reading a letter he had received
from an individual intimately conversant with the
matter before them.—(His Lordship then read the
letter, which supported the prayer of the petitions.)
He thought they ought to listen to the remonstrances of
the people of North Wales against the union of the sees
of St. Asaph and Bangor, showing that shortly after the
union of the sees of Sodor and Man and Carlisle, the
people who were affected by it resisted it, and the Act for
the union of those sees was, in consequence, repealed.
(LEFT SPEAKING.)

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
The SPEAKER took the chair at the usual hour.
HASTINGS RAILWAY.

Mr. CURTEIS-moved-that the South-Eastern and
Hastings Railway Bill be recommitted to the former
Committee to whom the same was referred, and that it
be an instruction to such Committee,' that they have
power, if they think fit, to rescind their resolution on
the preamble of the said Bill, and to consider the ex-
pediency of allowing the same to pass, for the purpose
of authorising the making of a railway from the South-
Eastern Railway to Rye only.
Mr. VILLIERS STUART thought it inexpedient
to re-open the question which had been decided by the
Committee.
Mr. CRIPPS, as Chairman of the Committee, was
ready again to go into the question if the House should
think fit.
Mr. ESTCOURT thought the House could not en-
tertain the question in its present shape. To attain the
object which the Hon. Gentleman had in view, the Com-
pany must give fresh notices, as for a new Bill.
Mr. GLADSTONE trusted that after what had been
stated by the Hon. Member for Oxford, the Hon. Mem-
ber would not press it to a division. He thought the
proceedings were calculated to destroy all confidence in
the proceedings of the House.
After some discussion,
Mr. CURTEIS withdrew his motion.
Petitions were presented by various Members for and
against the Dissenters' Chapels Bill, and against the
union of the-sees of Bangor and St. Asaph.
Sir ROBERT INGLIS presented several petitions
against the Dissenters' Chapels Bill.
Mr. ROSS presented petitions from certain places in
the county of Down, in favour of the Dissenters'
Chapels Bill.
The report of the Manchester Bonding Warehouses
Bill was further taken into consideration, pro forma only.
NESS FISHERIES BILL.
Mr. BAILLIE moved the third reading of the Ness
Fisheries Bill.
Mr. WALLACE objected to the House proceeding
any further with the Bill, and contended that a general
measure was the only legitimate way of legislating in such
Matters, The attempt which which was now made to
appropriate this public fishery to private purposes, had
been unsuccessful on a former occasion, and would, he
trusted,. be so now. In his (Mr. Wallace's) opibion the
fisheries of England were national property, and con-
sidering that the present was an attempt to appropriate
such property to private and personal purposes, he
begged to move that the Bill be " read a third time that
day six months."
Mr. MACKENZIE seconded the amendment. He was
afraid this Bill was,but the commencement of a system
for applying the same-principle to other rivers.
Mr. P. M. STEWART hoped the Hon. Member
for Inverness would persist in asking the House
to carry. this Bill. The river Ness was a pe-
culiar river, and this Bill merely gave power
that the fish might' be taken when they were best in
quality ar:d most abundant. He could not, therefore,
see what the public grounds were on which his Hon.
Friend opposed it. It was not denied that under the
present law as applicable to the river Ness, the fish of it
were out of season.i
Mr. BAILLIE thought the objection to the Bill vas
altogether a technical one, and he trusted, therefore, that
the House would unanimously support it.
Mr. 11. DRUMMOND opposed the Bill. He believed
it would be both for the general interest, and the interest
of the parties, that it should be thrown out.
Mr. ELLICE, jun, said the Bill was founded on the
Annan Fishery Bill, passed about three years ago.
Every proprietor on the Ness had given his consent to
the Bill.
Mr. GLADSTONE opposed the Bill.
After a few observations from Mr. WARBURTON and
Mr. LlbDtm., strangers were ordered to withdraw.
The House then divided, when the numbers were—
For the third reading.. 59
Against it 5O
Majority ..........
The Bill was then read a third time and passed.
NOTICES OF MOTIONS.
_ _

Mr. CHRISTIE rave notice ofajnotion for the 9th of
July on the subject of the Danish claims.ll, • •
Mr. HUME postponed his motion on the subject of
the Royal Academy, until the 9th of July.
Mr. WYSE gave notice that, on the 9th of July, he
should submit a motion to the House on the subject of
the University of Dublin and the College of Maynooth.
Dr. BOWRING postponed to Tuesday next his mo-
tion on the present mode of keeping the public accounts.
The same HON. GENTLEMAN then repeated the ques-
tion which he had put last evening to the Noble Lord
the Secretary foi. the Colonies, on the subject of
an asserted recent occurrence at the Island of St. Helena.

The Hon. Gentleman read a very long statement from a
newspaper, but in bo indistinct a tone as to be almost
wholly inaudible in the gallery. As far as we could
catch his meaning, however, we understood the Hon.
Gentleman to say that two prizes crowded with
Africans had arrived at St. Helena—that in both the
vessels dysentery was raging to an alarming extent ;
that the two cargoes were compressed into one vessel,
and in this state sent on to the Cape ; and that during
the voyage there had been a frightful loss of life amongst
the captured negroes.
Lord STANLEY said he was sorry to be obliged to
allow that to a certain extent the statement just read by
the Hon. Gentleman was correct, for there had been a
considerable mortality amongst the Africans, though not
to the number stated. Out of 337 of these slaves,
eighteen only died on the voyage from St. Helena
to. the Cape, and twenty after reaching that
place. He thought that it would be right to state
to the House the precise circumstances of the case.
A great number of slave vessels were brought into St.
Helena, but great complaints were made of the expense
occasioned by this, when there was no accom-
modation or means of employment for the negroes
when they arrived. In consequence of this, in
structions were given, that vessels should be
taken to Sierra Leone, or the Cape, or some
port where employment could be afforded the negroes
when they arrived. It appeared from the statement of
the Governor of St. Helena, that the Arrow put in to
the island in December, 1843, for the purpose of get-
ting water, and the vessel having been supplied with
water, she was sent to the. Cape. The instructions issued
on this subject was, that all vessels should proceed to
the Cape or Sierra Leone, and should not go to St.
Helena, except in cases of emergency, and this arose in
consequence of there being no means of employment for
the negroes on the island.
Dr. BOWRING; expressed a hope that an asylum
would be erected to meetcases of such emergency as this.
Lord PALMERSTON wished to know from the Noble
Lord whether the Governor confirmed the statement

which aas published as to the condition the negroes were

in when they arrived.
Lord STANLEY said the statement of the Governor
i
was that the vessel had put in to get water. He did not
say that the crew were in so sickly a condition as to pre-
vent their proceed,
ng from the island.