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The Committee reassembled at eleven o'clock, and proceeded
to hear further evidence on hehaT of the Brayton rival scheme.
The first witness called was Mr. Alexander Sheriff, and his evi-
dence went merely to prove that the flax-spinners of Leeds were
in favour of the Brayton scheme.
Mr. S,ricklani, of Snaith, said that the branch to Broughton
would confer very great advantages on the farmers in the district,
because it would give a direct and speedy communication with

Leeds.
Mr. Blackmore, station.master at Normanton, spoke to the
busine,s there, and the regularity with which trains from their
separate companiei, arrived and departed. Nothing could be con-
ducted in a more regular manner.
Similar evidence was given on the part of Sir John Simpson, of
York, Mr. Phillips, Mayor of Pontefract, and others. They all
considered that the Brayton project would benefit the district by
opening up a direct communication with Leeds and Bradford.
Their Lordships then adjeurned till Monday.

TinE GLASGOW JUNCTION RAILWAY.
On the re-assembling of the Committee this morning the exami.
nation of witnesses in support of the Bill was resumed.
Mr. Hartley, of Liverpool, said the rails along the docks at
Liverpool were very convenient. He considered the rails on the
quay at Glasgow ought to he on the !eve/.
Mr. Moore, Chairman of the Dock Trustees at Liverpool, con-
curred in the evidence of the previous witness.
Mr. Syrcon, manager of the Dundee and Arbroath Railway, de-
pos, d as to the faciity for the transmission of traffic which the
rails on the quays belonging to that railway afforded.
Mr. Dickson, of Hull, described the manner in which the goods
were lifted from the wagons into the boats from off the quay.
Mr. RPed, of the Glafgow Railway Company, deposed as to the
rate., of charges on that line.

Mr. Knight spoke as to the cartage.
Mr. Kiastone said the proposed junction met with the full ap-
proval of the ironmasters.
Mr. Christie stated that the Iron manufacture had greatly in-
creased within the last t,n rears, and there was every probability
of its bring further increased.
Mr. I, adbitter said that there were 80,000 tons of atone an-
nually hr.Aight into Scotland for shipment and home consumption.
Aft. r hearing some further evidence, the Committee adjourned
till Monday.

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IIikMPTON.

The Committee met to-day at eleven o'clock, Lord Auckland in
the chair, whet) the case for the opposition was resumed.
Oo the Noble LORD taking the chair, he stated, that with re-
spect to a petition presented by Mr. Macey, of Banbury, against
the Bill, the Committee had decided that, considering the late
period at which tht petition had been presented, counsel could not
be heard in its support.
Mr. Laing, of the Board of Trade, was then examimed in rela-
tion to a statement of Mr. Cockburn in opening the case, that the
decision of the Board of Trade had been given on exparte

evidence.
'I he witness, in his examination, denied this, and stated that
before the decision had been given, both interests had been fully
heard. Both Mr. Brunel and Mr. S.unders had been examined,
and had frequent Interviews with the Board of Trade.
The Noble CHAIRMAN thought this quite sufficient in answer to
the statement of counsel on that point, and the witness was dis-
missed.

Mr. George Hudson, the celebrated railway proprietor, was next
generally examined on the respective merits of the two gauges, and
the transhipment of goods. He deposed that the narrow gauge was
refe; able to the other, and that no kind of mechanical contrivance
would do away with the evils and inconvenience arising from
transhipment and bre ,k f g.itges. The evidence was in effect a
repetition of what he stated in the Commons' Comihittee, already
given.
Mr. Robert Stephenson, civil engineer, examined by Mr. Holm—
He entered into a lengthened explanation of his own line in contra-
dii tinction to the Great Western scheme, going through the map
before the Committee, and showing the number of towns, the
aim.unt of population, and the public works that would be accom.
medated by tie Trine iine. With regard to the mineral traffic, h
considered his line woted he much better adaeted for that of South
Staffordshire than the other. It was the practice on all lines of
railway in mineral districts to join side or branch lines up to the
mouths of the pits. This he had in view in laying down his line;
and it would hay, this great advantage over the other, that the
same gauge could be used im both the main and branch lines, so
that mineral tr itfie would not require to be disturbed, or changed
from one waggon to the other in its transit. The wit-
ness was next examined as to the question of trans-
shipment. He did not think that themode proposed by Mr. Brunel
would at al get rid of the evil. With regard to placing waggons
without wheels on trucks, in order to facilitate transhipment, it
had been tried on several occasion and abandoned on account of
the confusion it created. It had been attempted on the Liverpool,
and Manchester, and Bolton Railways, and he had tried it himself
at Canterbury, but in all these cases it had been given up. The
Change at the break of gauge was the least part of the evil. The
machine pr..posed by Mr. Brunel would but very partially meet the
evil. One of a similar kind at Warrington had been abandoned.
It the narrow gauge lines were adopted, the whole question of
transhipment would be confined to the distance from Oxford to
B isingstoke, and a narrow gauge like oetween those two points
would settle the question if gauges for ever, from Inverness, in
the north of Scotland, to Southampton, in the south of England.
Ills estimate of the A,ondon and Birmingham scheme was
3,040,000/., ineuding the local traffic, or side lines. He esti-
mated Mr. Brunel's scheme at 2,029.999/.; this was allowing
nothing for side lines at all ; so that the amount of moi.ey for the
two schemes was about the same, though his scheme gave a
much greater amount of accommodation than the other. His
lines were ten miles longer than the others, but the cut-
tings were muth leis. The calculation of Mr. Brunel's lines
just given allowed three limes of rails on the Oxford and
Worcester line. With four lines of rails on the two gauges,
the expense of Mr. Brunel's scheme would he 3,118,0591.,
and with side lines, like the Tring sch me, 3,297,6764 Supposing
that the Rugby line was laid down the same, as the Oxford and
Worcester line, then the total cost would be 3,519,0001. He con.
sidered Mr. Brunel's esti ...tea were much too tow. Instead of
making the Rigby line a' 12,000/. per mile, as calculated, it would
require 16,0001. or 17,0001. The quantity of earthwork on that
bee wee 90,000 feet per mile. Mr Brunel's estimate wan
2,100,000/., so that, taking the lowest estimate the witness had
given, compered with that of Mr. Brunel, there was a eeficiency
of neir'y a million. The cost of the scheme would be so great,
that it was doublel whether it could be made to pay interest on the
capital invested, unless it commanded a considerable amount of the
through norther, traffic.
Cross exanwited by Mr. TALBOT— With respect to the estimates
of Mr. Ikuni 1, they had never been questioned in the House of
Co 11111A18. He had not beet) examined on them, though he was
satisfied ref th it deficiency. He thought it utterly impossible to
construct the Oxford and Rugby line at 12,000/. per mile. His
recant experience of the Peterborough line convinced him it could
not be done.

The Noble CHAIRMAN inquired if it was the intention of Mr.
Tal int to tender ..ily evidence on the estimates ?
Mr. TALnor replh 4, Mr. Brunel, according to previous arrange-
m*•nt, had ben furnished with a +eries of queries on the subject, to
which he had given answers that would be adduced before the Corn-
miuce.

Af r Sir John M'lsTeil!, civil engineer, had been briefly exa-
rniord in corrol,oration of Mr. Stephenson's evidence,
rbe Committee inlj ,urned till Mon,lay, at eleven o'clock,

Ii:,USE OF CO I/MONS.
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The Cimunitree on these lines resumed to-day at the customary
hour, Viscount Courtenay in the chair.
t.tee immediately after re-assembling withdrew with
M. Creed, tnr pariament.iry Clerk, and alter remaining some
time in uelitievAtion, returned.
o ca'l the attention of the par.
The
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wished
tits and th.-ii representative, in this Grou„ to an annonym„us
%Ker, containing charges agains7 the Clerk of the Committee.
The litter, which was addressed to him as Chairman, and received
this m.,(ning, adve;tiat to au article which appealed lately in a
we/ kiy wiper, insiouating that Mr. Cri.ed bad a large inter-
est in one of tie lines, immediately and prominently under
n cosid-ration, and stating teat rumours to that elf ct were
rite in the nt ighbourbood of St. Stephen's. In justice to
themselves as aiijudicators Oil the interests of the public,
as wed as the particular injustice to those companies, and
in justice to their officer, the Committee had specifically
asked the quostion of Mr. Creed whether he had, or
had not, any interest in the companies before that
Committee, and he had given a most satisfactory assurance that he
was not in any way whatever concerned in the issue of the inquiry,
or connected with the schemes. Several other anonymous corn.
munications, some of a similar tendency, had been received, but
the Committee had no thimght it necessary to notice any but that
named t.„.rlay.
Atter some di,cus,ion, from which it appeared that the wit-
nes„, upon
es idencit Mr. Webtver relied had been misled
by tin, Steti ,ns, the paper on which these sections had been
shrunk,
drawn having slightly

The Coininitteetteciden that they would hear no further evidence
upon tile point, and that the objection to the London and Yotk
da'um lire had tit t hien sustained.
Mr. WELLs then p:,lied for leave, ow the part of the Eastern
Counties Coinpany, to produce to the Committee evidence respect-
ing the accomino;iation which would be afThrded to the public
by the statioo of the StratlOrd branch of that Company, which
would have the immense advantage of giving a communication
with the Thames. That was the only part of the case of his clients
respectin4 which he wool I ask to adduce any evidence, and after
all the Committee had heard upon the other side with respect to
the btnefits which the public would derive from the proposed King's.
cross station of the London and York Company, he trusted that
the Cmimittee won't' feel that it was only fair that they should re-
ceive the evidence he lad to offer with respect to that part of his
client's ease.

jr. WRAVGIIAM rerioted the application. the effect of
which wou:d he, he laid, If it were granted, that the Eastern