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nion of Mr. Fox, that there was no `resemblance
between this case and t hat of the Revolution, in
which opinion he most cordially agreed. As to the.
objearons started 'against the restrictions citron the.
liegent, • he' maintained th3t there Was not,,a soli-_
Lary instance to the conrtary. It it, was necessary
to place guards upon the exercise of, the functions
entrusted' to his Ro)al Highness,' he thought that,
notwithstanding the very high optition which he,ene
tertained of that august person, it would be for the
benefit of. the country.-that such 'restrictions would
be imposed.
Lord PORenEsTsa maintained that=botit Houses
"of Pat li3ment were legally competent to provide for
the deficiency. in the Executive. The-Noble Lord
cotnbated.the arguwents addnced by the Right Hon.
Gentleman (Mr. Perceval) on the former evening,
and,conterided that the analogy in point of principle
the same now as in ,the 'Revolution ;
that on that. occasion the functions of Royalty were
.;; So now, it was-rrquisite to provide ter the
absence of the exercise of those functions w hien:tne
unfortunate malady of the Sovereign has occasioned.
fie denied that the opposition, in 1788 wasetisthe Rt.
Ilon.Gent had asserted, " the disgraceful offspring of
patty-fury." The gedueu of objet tionwhch the Hon.
Gentleman made to the precedent of the Parlianient
of beland in point of address to his Royal fliehtiess,
Wase hevbelieted, ter these reason' ; that2.teey would
tot,adopt the line of ploceediag of the Irish Parlia-.
Meni, becacse , that Parearneet would not-do ho-
rteig,e to the measure of Mr. Pitt. Was there. any
neoot .that 'the .King, reco‘ery, condenieed
oedisapproved of the conduct of the Irish 'Parka-
meet Were, the. proceedings. rescinded.? Cer-
tainly not. It was fair, therdoce, to conclode, 'that
sue n disapproval was not inanileisted. He contend:
Li, in an. elaborate speech, for the necessity, of proe
et-.iing by Address. •
MeeLocteumer stated that there were three pre-
cedents,- viz., that in the reign Of Charles lite FirSt, the
period of the Revolution (which cand"not bear on
1115 preseut case, beeaU‘e 'there was nee in ,point of
last .any -Monarch) and the precedent of 1788. The:
Tin-one now being full, could not be said as apply
in point to the precedeet at the, revolution. To
comply with that precedent would in the House. be
d.eteliction of the duty as Representatitei
of the People, (trey owed to their Constituents.
reoe CtIANCELLOIt of the EXG“CLIJEtt sail, he
was perfectly satisfied as to the way the debate had
turned out, -and the manner ,it was conducted
Re wished to explain himself,' on account :of the'
,I\loble,Lord (Porcheater) having addressed him, for
the definition of the law and right in this case. He
Would answer him, that the law was the necessity.
The Hun. Baronet (Sir. Francis Burdett) says there
is not any necessity., It putliin io mine of a cet-
tairr animal between two 'bundles .of :hay, and he-
could not make choice of either. A. charge lied
been made against him that lie left oot•of his.con=
sideration all precechnt but that of .1788; this ws
a mistake, for what he did. state was, Chr.it in
.1788
they,had all .the.preCedents; before them, and ii d
.wine to a
,;conclusion;. and by entering into theM
again ew cold only ohs. ore the light. Tile p
ee6eut of the Revolution was a eery proper one for,
a similar case, but the present -was net by any
means so. . He, was,surprised at the at gument of th
Finn. Gentlemen eppoSite, that the . mode proposed
by him was illegal, and that which they contend-
ed tor was not,. and at the same time they 'told
them • it :was only to substitute an Address tor
a Bill ;, it one was illegal, the other was. They
bad been told. they \vete legislating -.without
the Toird Eteate; it was true, at d it would
be illegal under any other circumstances. --
4 had also been-said, tli t 1' the t Houses of Par-
liament passed the Bill, the Loid Chancy-Nor. night
reTpke to 4ffix t tte Great Seal. Way ueon tee same
principle tht, Loid Ct+antellor wig retuse to affix
or ,toieszrip the: Seal upon. an Address of the two
lions, : did not fnean to av 'that the Chan-
celor would refuse 0 obey the :pl,*ure of the
two :Houses, Whethete',.expressed by Bill or by
Address, tie .only meant to say, the
.possibility Was
the:sat-lie in. but i,t canes. • '•_
He. had:never contended, nor, been urged
by any GelitlLrnan;Whb,Supportd :the resolution
that t mode of proceeding which had been adopt-
ed was free from objection or 'frein'clifficurnies ; on
the contrary,' ht' had, admitted therd in the, fullest
extent, and had justified theM upon thr ably-ground
on which they were justifiable, natnel the iinpe-
lions necessity. of the case. He confesSed, lijnise4
astonished that- the Gentlemen oppwireefe
'with' that acuteness which they possessed,shduld
Lave objected to the plan be proposed, City he ground
of illegality or informality, when every one of these
objections applied with equal
_it not greater force to..
the mode which they proposed to adopt. The Gentle- ,
•
man opposite tO him had, in Speaking of, the, means ,
of obtaining the Sign Manual, made use of the words :
fiction, fraud, and 'many other, hard terms ; but,
eaid.Mr. Perceval, I should he glad to ask them
whether, if their plan of proceeding by Address
Were adopted, the same objections wOuld nut in.
and theSanie language might not be used?-. Sup-
pose both Houses of Parliament should agree to ad-
dreis'his Rdyal',l-lighness.to take upon himselWite
office of Regent ; I desire, speaking-in' legal strict-
. Less, to know how the Great Seal could be used in a
rnannßr less objectionabie than by .the mode I have
proposed ? The Regent would order the Chancellor
to apply the Great. Seal; but the Great Seal can
only be -applied' by an order under the Sign Manual.
klow_theti would the Regent give the order to the
Chancellor I:wis'a the Gentlercen opposite to me'
Would answer that question; buereally, if i may
judge Irom-their manner, 'I should thick they have
not made up their minds upon the subjeat Would
Regent,:so 'appointed; communicate the order
tinder his own signature If he did,. I should be
glad to know if • their plait is not liable to exactly.
the same objection as mine ? In both cases the
'Sign Manual tvould be wanting. Would the Re-
gent issue the order, affixing the -King's signature ?
, If he did, would Gentlemen contend, speaking in
legal strictness, that that was ihe Sign Manual ?
But a Right Honourable Gentleman opposite to
t use qnoted, for another purpose, an Ad of Henry
: VIII. which makes it high treason to forge the
K.ing's'Sign Manual ; I beg. therefore the House
Will consider the .difficulties that would folloW from

the aciorlfloti of the plan suggested' by the Gentle-
' men oppoSite•to me. lithe Regent issued the order
forithe use. of the Great` Seal,' under his own sigha-
ture, therrthie Sign 'Manual •would be \wanting 'Just
as much as it would .heby.the ninde, I propose. if
the. Regent affixed the' King's-,signatpre, 4era_ the
sratuteof Henry VIII. would apply. So that il;t:
only difference, between he' plan of the Gentlemen
on the other side and.mine,:..is, that they, would re-
commend that the first at of the Regent shnuld•be
an7.aet of ltigli treason ! ! I know very well a hat in
such a case Parliament would 'afterwards pass an as
to sanaion theineasure. I am, only contending
that, in legal strielness,.. their ,pUp is quite as
objealionable as Mine,. and that all whiCh Gen-
Jlemen-"have said'- about fitStion and fraud; apply,
quite as strongly to the_mpde Which, they- recom-
mend as it can to the other.. But beg Gentlemen
to recollect that there are. many very grave. and im-
portant occasions iii which the Sign Manual is ne-
cessary, well as, in .the one to which we have
been alluding. Suppose: we . were, to proceed by
i;Vity of AddreSS, and the Regent. was called :upon
to put the Sign Manual to a' Commission'for
ing a Cow t-Martial,; KUPpOSe person accused,
convicted, and sentenced ro die, and aquestion ptit
to the JUdges whether the CoMmission under which
he was tried, not being signed by the King, though
purpoTtig ao bear his siguatute, was a valid one,
what would. he their answer.? I am .strongly in-
clined to think that they would be of Opinion that
the man ought not to be executed; because it will
be recolketed.that it is tornpetent to aver against the
Sign,lYl:tttia 1, 't hone h not against the Great Seal.—
It 'woutd be a warier. of gre.it ,doubt, therefbre,
,wht tl ec such a Conaussion would e valid one.
.Novi the cour.i,e we, propose, to adopt is free'f'rom
tlits objection ; we clothe ourselves in legafforms,
and have thei=efore a sound/ At:. the
sant«.. ii tae L admit. that' it is only legal from 'the- ;tn.
Solute necessity of the-case: • Spin::
,observations,
have been made, and I think not quite fairly,. uopn'
what I 'said about the proceedings of; the Parliament
in Ireland. It has been insinuated that I spoke with
'disrespect of that precedent. ThebargnMents I used
to chew that it did not apply, might not be smis-
. fa6tory, but certainly they were nor disrespectful.----.
I said there, were'thaterial distioelieus beiw,enthe
jwQ e,es, and pointed them out ; 'buz nothing
could be Inraher from my intention ,than to:seak
Slightingly or direspedtfully of
..the Parliament of
Ireland. A Right Honourable Gentleman, oppos,te
'to nee,- who ex,,ressed himself strongly in favour of
the mode of ptoceeding by Address; has endeai-one-
ed to illustrate his argument by_a case from private;
life, though h admitted that such exaMples 'were
'very seldom applicable to public questiots. Su'prios,
said the, Right Honourable Gentleman,' tha: three
. Gentlemen were Trustees a an estate,
and that one of them had the power el aczyng by
agent, and suppose arse tliar the Trustee lia"ving t..at
power, became incapable-of acting for a tin ,e, what
would y say, said the Right Honourable .G tat e
man, if the two other Trustees v., ere to go. tc,
agent and desire him td act in the name of his ;qui-
.dmitie; the time of his incapacity ? • Why,
'Sir, I do not think' the twp retitaining
:would be quite in, so difficult a situation ,s
the Right Honourable GentlC.ean irri.gtnes;
thoughHie-will'Amt allow the it Semi to b.-

_rea,
a state of activiiyolow, it •would t)(,, in the case he
has pot ; and the two yernai;Ang- 'C'u,tees (Add-,
by. an aiTI cationa to the. Lord Citancellor be soon
relieved' from thIS suppos,,,:d ctitticuity. But let u•
see how th,s supposed 'case ari.lie:)• to the present
.question.. The Right Hon, Gentleman thinks it
would be runse improper con:incl. if they_ w,re to,
desire the Agent to ad tor the third Trustee: -Piay,
'does ht.thiok the ease would be much mendid it
they were to proceed by way of, Address f? Does' he
think ail the difficulties would be teamed it they
were to i.i4ressthe Agent or any other .person,"
desiring him, to execote_the duti their Colrfusl
-tee ? The Right Hon,, Gentleman said he ditt.not
,like applying cases from private life to :public Ties-
lions, and I ant very much. inclined to tfiinli
the succf.ns of this 'experiment not eery much
increase his foLdness .for thit,rriode of 'illustration.
'will now, , Sir, if the House • will permit me,
makao few observations upon some ar,unmits which
'were urged last n.ijit on the oilier side of the
House. The n: Gentleman/ oppo..ite, (Mr.
IWhitbread)'ituade -some Observatious upon the tes-
timony of the 'Physicians, • respeding the period of
the commencement of the King's illness. He said,
Doctors Bailey and Halfmi, the only two ;
clans that ~woe i.tt attandauce'upon
ibis 4lajesty. at
that time, dill:v(2d.; opink;a as to the, tithe of the
rn commetideetft:of the indisposition. Now think
the Hon: Gentleman has not stated the evidence
quite accurately. In page of the Report. in Sir
H. Haltord's evidence; the following questions: are
asked

Q.Ajp. to the 28th, was his:Majesty in a slate to
tranSiCl public business 'think so ; I think
the King could transact pUblie business.
Q. Are the Ctimitlittee to' understand, 'that,
up' to the -28th of QL:rober; and on the 28th
of Odober, his Majesty was in 'such a state
as, if he had been a private individual, he
would have been intrusted with the transaction of
any thing in the management of his own concerns'?
—A. I think you would not
,have been. justified; in
taking from any indis idual, the power of tratisaCting
his own busin,ess, if, under the circumstances that
hie Majesty' was, I think I-might say, the night
of the 27th of October.
Now, Sir, I ask tlAGentletneri opposite,' I ask
the House, whether, when his Majesty • was in a
state in which it. would not be proper to take from
any individual thepower of transajling kik tizen br
siness, it would have ben proper for any pt:rs-on to'
take upon bunsell to disobey the King's orders, and
to refuse 't() execute Ins•cominands I Let us noiv
look to.the evidence of. Dr. page
Question. On the 25th, whenyou attended the
King, nut in the,capacity in which you subsequently
attended him, did youo:::)serve.any thing particular
in his Majesty's. 'tnanw-r.—Answt-r, He. was" hui
rigid in his wanner. That is the .observdtioty that '1
have made in my-memorandum ; that his pulse was.
ai .90, and hts.eonversation hurri,,d, and a lithe
des.,;tory ;- that is, passin6 Iron) one thing a little
rapidly to another; that was ah three o'clock.

Q. On 26tb,, tlfe'Cornmilteei to understand,
thel(ing's aialady,was establishri; ?—A. I saw
torn ally, as a physician, on the 50t.11 ; h,s c;niver-
,;ation then as certainly '‘Lny hurried; but I !!ee.,,,
its sny inetnOrandum, that ii w:is not irrational, al:
ttiou2ll. hurried,, and not. very-- well corrnetted. /
should .not have trustld to my memory for that, but
!,final that in my rrienzorandunt 'bot.)4 on,that day.
Q. Did you think online utiia, from what you
observed in his Majesty, 'that he was•capable of
concluding business i•=A.'.l really cannot give a
very accurate answer to that question I should ni-
ther think.' hat he Was nor ciipable, but I would not
take upon me to 'say that that is a perle,-,tly accurate
answer.

• Now, Sir, I contend, that it can hirdly lie said
that the Physicians differ from.each 'other, when
one speaks positively, and the other Only expresses
his.donbts; -and:these `doubts founded, nut upon his
recollection, but upon kis ,nernirranduni. The Hon.
Gentleman. adverted to the indisposition of his
Majesty in iBOl and' 1804, aiid censured the Go-
vernment, of the former of those 'periods, for not
taking_notice of his/Majesty's relapse. Sir, •say
that in 1801, the 'indisposition of his •Majesty, and
he nature of it, was. notorious to Parliament, and
I say also that Parliament did abstan4 intentionally
a'i-.stain, from taking notice of it. . After' his Ma,
jeNty recovered, he had a shall relapse; but the
Government finding that Parciament did not take
notice of the longer indisposition, of course con- •
eluded that.it woUld'not-tliink it necessary to inter-
tere in one that-lasted:for •so short a petiod.sThaf his
Majesty's relapse in 1,801 was. kuovk IA to Parliament
as weli his previous indisposition, is ohvious troth
one parikular circumstance—[t was about the time
of the change in Administration.; the present-Lord-
Chancellor had,then,acceptcd tne.Great Seat.; but
the King relapsed so soon after he had accepted it,.
that his-,LOrdship had nut 'the power of resigning
the Chief justiceship of the ComthOn Pleas. It was
known, that I,rotn that cirrumstancethe.then -Mas-
ter of the Rolls; who was to succeed to the Com-
mon Pleas, could not take-i be office, and for the
Same.reason the ;present Master of the Rolls court
not enter upon his office. Tbe tact, therefore,. of
his ',Majesty's illness anu .clap.e iii 1001, wasperted-
ly well known, and ihele,Nire I h justified in say-
ing,- that. Parliament studiously abstained from no-
, Clog%
•1804, too, .the Honourable •Gentle-
man thinks there wPs:somethin4. not quite satis-
factory ; .bit • upon that °teastoo there was no
relapse; there were some Vestiges Of the corn-
. plaint., spille,-..occasionall s,)nipiorns of hurry,
,as it is stated, bat the •Ai:ricss positively says, tai:
his Mojesijr I..Ca; in a complete .rate utcompetenezt.
to'trans-1,:-.1 busine'ss. Sn; '1 contend that the delays
which Pal:lament stlift_lrs•d- to rake place du, :Ag
.the proctplin6, in 1738, ~t).l Atte
,pe,riods w,.,;!,
to .vidpse to 1801, atld 1804.,
M.iies,y's stryng
i)rupi o:at t ond ,ent-teels it+ it is sb' much
cool :keel the op-
- a tiLte:,t, it wik pause tor a lot%
• '1 ii any step for that lu-pis:.,
1 Ce-the te.titig U 1 Rviutm.qa
thct ci“.u.listance, viz. that it did not

:,1;. it) t .tny- illeaitites for establishing
p: P. 66, ;ley, allot any of
to, Of -their reetifftnce. It has
h thi • t '1 -
neen s ,„16, his A.—.l
Jest) 's *sfuki,iersll.ve acted upon the, present ocea-
stun. Sir, we have not shut our eyes to the incon7
'keniences that i,muA exisi iu sued a state of things ;
we are qui'e as sensible, of them. as the. Gentlemen
on the other side. it eantlot be, supposedthat we
are not a ware`of all iie,Ca,,es na,,e been pet,
where his MjeSty's servants illaY be under the tie,
ceps'!), of giving direetions inins mune.. -We have
not .b: en blind to thS:se things. Sir,,, if l't.l.itii,sters
shbuld find it necessary to take such steps, I conteud
they.would be justified under the particular eirctfm•;
Stances of.the case ; but, they, would- adlunder a
hemy responsibility, and Parliament would -be
bound in duly to examine their conduit afterwards.
.Sr,, lam dePpiy. cony laced that I spit& a.sirua-
lion' of as deep TespOnsibility as ever a Ministet
stood in : it is a double responsibility, -to the public
and to the King. • Sir„..l feel that to •bc o;ur situa-
tion, ainl Parliament pLilst,have felt so too, in suffer-
ing the delays which have taken place. Gentleunen
to y put w`hat Consteuetion they:please upon 'what
I am going to say, but I do contend boldly before
Parliament, and 4efure tnyCoutitry,. that; it under
the circumstances which I have 'describe'd, any
measure in any of the departments requited the Sign
Manual, the Officer at the head of that department
i,x.fould act most CUlPably if lie. did not issue ttie ne-
cessary orders to Ins inferior, upon his responsiblit•-
ty. Sir, this is the -view., I 'have of the sttua`tton
and of the duties of Ministers ; and though Gen-
tleinen on the other side have thought ptOper tO
losinta.he that our measures Were ihttariceed by a
desire of our offices, I
a ,! sure the House
will not Abe of opinion that Our situatiOn is• partloi-
lady enviable, or • one that could be an abject .01.
choice. We feel& we, admit., ail the incioni•coleLocs

of the. present State of things ,but, cousiti, t; lig their
duration to lie but short, are tney equal tO.l.he
ventenceot appointing another person to e:ecute the
func-tions of titeSovereign s or, in other words, of
appointing a Regent, unless' the necessity of the
case absolutely tequire4`it? -It *1 riot from :feel-
ings of dylicacy only that =his Majety's Mi-
nisters have acted, but 'Ili;01 th'e pouvictton that
the preserving to his Majesty the. power ut.
exercising his authlity irnare,diately upon his
recovery, without the interruption.. ot; a , Re-
gent, .would- be a great national advantage./ The
wlti2n appointed, would of course ud as he
thought 'best fur the inter'ests,d. the State, and ev,n
athnittirg that the plans which. Ile would adopt
would be bekter th,an those now pursued„yet 1 con-
tend 'that this Change from a worse to a.better
tent, %ill, the ptobaullity of again shortly recurring
to old systein, would be nittell tuore loPrjobs to
toe public than, the inconvelnen.ces -Which have
-'oeen so strongly urged by .the Ge.ntletnen on ttke
o her si.ic of the House,—Sir, G,.-Intletert have, in
:the i'liconvenienecs of our piesent si-
tuation, adverted to the case of Sweden and of
Aktiet-io4 and-to the'state dour relations with those
countries.. - Sir,' it cannot be expected tha'i
now give iftly-Tarticulsr iriformittion to the-House

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respelling otir situation with respek(.l to them, but I
can undertake to say, that no intooveoieuce has
wised with regard to either cm' thorn----S.r, the ..:elay
which has taken place has b. al no covert del
has oeeh perfedly open, anti t tsoa why it w
asked was, fairly stated. We have had no disguise,
no subterfuge ; our object was ctil!, osooe i to P tr-
liament. Sir, I say kigitin, that Alin sL7.r.s deeply
tech the. heavy 'responsibility of th.-ir s4oation ;. !hey
know that their conduct will necessarily he exa-
tniutd by ; they
.know that C,ey may
may have to request justice fr:on par ia'nrilt for
their condud, at a titue when those woe are 'now
censuring their ,condo with so much acrimony
may possess a greater sway than they do at. present.
Is such a situation a desirable one ? is it an 'ohiet.l
of ambition ? Is it possible that any Mini or set of
omen, could covet such a situation, or wish to retain
it, except from, the: imperious sense of the duty
which they *,:owe to thei: Sovereign, and to their
Country ? I will. perform that duty to the hest of
my ability, and cheerfully submit my conducl to the
justice or Parliament and of my Country. It has
been asked, Whether, if under- the preseut circutn-
sianc-S the evacuation. of Portugal, were necessary,
any, order could be sent to Lord Wellington for that-
purpose ? Do Gentlemen really that any
difficulty' exists noon
.such a suhjet ? po they
really believe that Lord Welli6gtoo. would let:use-to
obey an ordertransumit'ted to him by Lord Li- ei pool
for that purpose, merely . because he had heard of
his Majesty's indisposition ? Undoubtedly they do
.not; the. ca,e they hate put then- is qoite'an ima-
ginary one: - Sir, iii time office which hate the Imo-
,nour to hold, .liondy.must be taken out .of the
1-1;x0,-quer for theipnblic,service ;, it is the day of
Ministers to see that el vice perfocoied ; amid do the;
Hon: 'Gentlemen think that I woo.d 'hesitate to
_draw the..money for that purpose Mete
to 's d great cr, of ",hear, hear,': from the Oppo,o=
tioa Bench.]--Sir, loon unable to ,m,x,munt for*th•
distinetion which fhe Gentlemen -appear to me to.
make between the two ca,ses which i nave put.--•
,When I said that Ministers would flint hesitate 10
give orders for the evacuation of Portugal, if it
were, B.eCeSsary, they 'see:veil, by their silence at
least, to-acquiesce in what I said ; bur when
spoke of applying the money voted tair.the public
service, to the public service, they afec-,t great asto-
nishment, as it the principle of the two caves was.
not time same. Sir, I repeat, that I slmoirid uo=
der great iespoosibiriy,bur do Ga,tlemen think
that where money has been so., d Parliament,
and ordered by Parliament to be applied ,o a parti-.
.cul service,.thai I would hesitate toliave
he service perform tor tear of the respoolibtlity
that would attach tome ?- they triook that I
wouid enuauger the best interests ,at the country,
froth aaly' con,ideration of .perinnat danger to iny-
self ? Do they think that I would risk a mutiny in
• the, at my or the navy, r.oher to4n take von my-
iolt the lespon!;ibtlity of issuiag their pay i—No,
Sir, if I could be guilty of such cond!ict, I should ou
unfit indeed for tile situation which I hold I sho
be guilty ot:A" base dereliction of my duty to my .5:).
-set, ign and my country.
,[Loud and repeated cheers.]
Sir, bitore I sit dOwn,l'inust beg tO obittiye, that
I do not think that:the Gentlemen on the oher sfle
have acted-quite fahly towards -me; wheo. I pro
posed the resolution, I stated at the same line the
general nature of the plan 1 •to-propoSe.
Gentlemen on the other:Side have,- it seems, some
plan in' reserve, besides their Address, which .they
have thought proper to keep frool the know-.
ledge of Parliament and the country. Ai the same
time they have argued, by. anticipation as it were,
, against the limitations ant) restrictions which said
I meant to propose, though I had not an oppot to-
oityof stating the grounds upon which I meant to pro-
pose them. must however beg of the House to lo!ep
their minds open ußon the queStiona of the,restrie=
fionc, and that they Will not decide until they have
heard the arguments* on both sides of the question.
lime Gentlemen on the' other side soy, they cau,
establish "restriaions upon the power of the Regent,
it necessary, by. their mode of proceeding, an.; the
way they would do it, is, bygooyeying,suggestions nod
hints, as it were, of their intention in the address to
the Prince. Why, Sir,, if the Iwo Houses. of Parhio•
mem can-legislate by address, where is the secority for.
theConstitutiOn? If the two Houses or Parliainent can,
I:ft p,ddreSsiliinit the power of the Regent, they can,
by address, limit the power Of the Clown; a pro-
position which .1 am_ sure will never,he listened to
in this House. There were some questions put tome
yesterday by the Hon. Gent. opposite tome, respect-
in, toe Physicians, such as, at whose deiire such
a Poysician was appointed, whether the presence of
one of was not disagreeable tea a gteat
sonog,e, tic. Sir, with respect to these quesoons, I
hope I shall be pardoned it I, say,
,that I W,i1,1(-12ot nit-
swer them' unless commanded by the House,
I fan 'not,cmicei,e any good that could arise trona
giving the intormatioo required.
Mr. PaticuvAL 'having apologised for the length.
of time oe-nad trespassed_ upon the House, sat
down,amtm,dst .the rnost loud acid long continue
cheers.:- , _

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. Mr. W. ELLIOTT and Mr. W..WvNyE severali)
explained,
Mr. WHITBREAD observed, that the Right Hon.
Gentleman had, furuisued him with ample totpies of
remark, in the' bold and extraordinary speech which
he had just made. He lamented that every Mem-
ber.of the United Parliament had not been pre,ent
'to hear the speech in which the Right Hon. G-htie-
man had proc4ime4 himself atid,his friends to be the
persons who had possessed, and _arrlantly usurped
the royal authority. With repett. to the second
Resolution, it was, in his opinion, wholly unneces-
sary, and.he.had no doubt it had been introduced
for the purpose of provoking an aerintoniou,dcbafe.
.
But t 4 importance of the Resolution was tiiii•ng,
ey
when compared with the 'important consideratiptis
which must be supested to ti mind of ever re-
deding 1-11.3 n; on hearing the dechrations or theniot
Hon. Gentleman. iV.o u 1 d Mr. Pitt, in the plenitude
N
of his power, hate eatured to, make such asser-
tions? Until this day, no man had dared, 'in the
lace of the
House Commons; of omons-, to -tell -them that'
he-and his colleagues would ossume the controul of
the public Purse, and that they Lc!, no doubt bit
that the Ortieers of the Exchequer would obey their
orderi in the issuing of the public money. If -the