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%tame point,' in the speed' of at:. ilotionretle end
Leartwel Gentleman (Mr. Brougham) oft ‘vitich
he 'visited to offer a few observations. fie had
often remneked, that those, Olt were most incre-
ri-loatts themselves were the p,ersons who draw
most largely on the credulit y qllitjfers .; but never
in his lite had he seen this. sis st'rO'rigly exemplified
as in the course of the. rest utulehate, when the
Hon. end Learned Gentlemati, doubting all that
had been reported to the llouse by the Conimb t re,
which comprehended some of his own friends,
who were imattimotte in giving it their sanction,
ceded upon the House not to believe the ex-
tre‘aorotto fiction ; that what they had heard
wits, but a plot invented by Ministers to defeat the
combined efforts of the phalanx opposed to them,
to ievestigate their conduct, and drive them from
their seats. What could, be more preposterous
that' Ruch tin idea 1 Those who could receive it
omit first believe that Ministers had drawn up a
set of extravagant principles to be ciretdated
among the people, and afterwards sought out in-
dividteds frantic enough to 'adopt theft, mid to
attemiet to carry them lion iiffect by physical
urcupoh. All this utust:be'aSseitied, and then it
must he supposed the seVet'al pil.ta of this, Plat
Were so securely arranged; *Nat Ministers were
rot afraid of submitting thOtt'iii a Committee of
filar fituse, and haviug done this, hail succeeded
iii hrioeiog ()ter the whole of the Committee, con-
sistio ot Gentlemen in the habit of opposing them,
as well as those Who usually acted with them, to
give this plot their undiyidolsupport. Of all he had
ever heard, the bepothesis on which the flouie
had-teen ct ttpou to discredit what bad been
propounded to t; cat, and which %%as supported
by cvilleuce, and to believe what had been thus
soegested to them, and which had no feunda-
tien ie feet, was the must extravagant. But it
Ii been said, it was very extraordinary that it
Alloulti appear from the Report of the Connnittee
that Government had ittforureeino of some of the
proceedings which wersottheessibject of it in the
;mouth of November, and' yeternot w ithstaudiog
title eirentioitatire, advieol the tPtinee Regent to
peorogate the ParliatnetteetoWhat eras there ex-
treoreittary itt thie i ThOugh curtain eireme-
stances connected with the subject of the Report
had come to the knowledge of Ministers in the
month of Nevembrr, yet did it appear that at that
period they wore that aspect • which, on fiwther
it was found they bad assumed ? Did it
el Pear that if their character Wes what it had
enhsegeently proved, that Government .were
Wormed of it ? Did it appear on the face
of the Report, that np to the first, or even
up to the second meetitsg at Spa-telds, that Mi.
uisters had ream to believe those who appear-
ed at them- might he as ignorant of any se-
,rime, design to:attempt an illStirrectiott, its that
unhappy man had beeu:Whoeit Petition had this
(ley been hittil on their Cildee(Mr. tind oho,
in the innOcenee and vanity ofehis heart, it should
Seem, had mounted the teinimenry rostrum pre•
pered for him, and only"fetending to make a
splash, hall been imeonseibusly forwarding the
vivws of those who had no object but rebellion ?
The members of the Gavernmeut, like every other
inilisiduel its the reition, could not hot know diet
a very strong feeling had been excited ; tioey
Ittiew that in a !line of grant public distress the
Nevis! were likely to be ()posited design.
hie: men. if not to the clanger at State, at least
it' a way likely to kill to notch prectical mischief,
and to their own 'matting. They i,new these
thiegs ; het possessed elf such knowleiige, was it
their duty to call all the resident Gentry of
their cotettry from their homes at suet! a
-111,00, where it might. reitionably be hoped
their preseeLc would lie4uketideti most ef.
tectireilv to check ietliticSuile, practices 1 Far
from tidultiog this WitOttlVilhive been proper at
that period, had they then 'lt:dually heti) assent-,
bled London, he should have thought their
dlspersion end their return to their several coun-
ties Iserall have beetea measure of infinite wisdom.
ese(lleer, hear I) —Ministers had lucid to be
their duty to give the subject the fellcst effllsideree
timi before they determined to bring it in any
shape before Perliemenee and he was surprized tat
the objections which 1,10 been urged that night
against the comet'. they had thought it their duty
to pursue. Did it not seem, front their general
remitter, that there had been something like re-
luctance on their nett to come to Parliament for
wtroorditilry ;towels 1 Whrit it was seen that bad
Mien were lehouring to ,graft nu distress sedition,
to mine late want to rebelliffee Aloof to make pub-
lic calamity subservient tot; tkie, views of those
tt linsr proceedings, though-likely to on{ in their
o wit debt runt ioo, might lordangetons o the State ;
they had then come to Parliament for extrnordi-
miry powers; but was it wrong in them to wait,
in the first instance, a reasonable time, till other
menns for averting the evil had been tried, and
(mold insufficient 1 The Honourable sod, Learn-
ed Gentleman had objected to the proposition
now before: them being submitted to their con-
sideration, till it had hese decided by the
House that the laws already in force were
nor equal In the cirConilflUtlceft of the times.—
This rptettion, he thought, ought to here been
first dispoied of ; but be (Mr. Canning) would
assert, that, practically; the House must be
le ought to decide on that question that night. If
the Hotel: were of opininn that the piesem laws
wFre, etulicient, of e4ttrie NO/ weir it reject the
present motion, smut ‘de.Chiie'Vfilit mars to he Int-
licet"Ssary. The llort6Orableand Learned Gen-
tlemen bad admitted iffie' to be pressing,
het he %Ise very angry' with the Report for not
&fining the extent of the clanger. But he (Mr.
Broughete) had relict) into a fibrilar swore Ile
had con:Witted the fault of whirl' he accuses!
f,tiiers ; for admitting the danger -to be greet, lie
(dr. Ceunine) hail in vain watched the course of
the Learned tleutieman*s speech, to hear bito at-
tempt to set limits to its magnitude.' lie bad done
nothing of the hind, nor had he said any thing in
-tee; on tins point that cook! esemate his (Mr.
neougeson's)eopiniotis (ruin those of his ftiends
,e the Qtetnoittee. The danger to be apprehended,
oat cleat which 116;00 follow teuceessfel efforts to
aohsert the meant y, the cetigiitn. and the loyalty
0.1,r1k people, and icy re combination of the typo-
sties of these. to ateiiiriliqb elesigns abhorrent to
siqa slast s of GOd attain!, Which flat. only
ti.oll tte sodtvert the CeffHiltilon of England, hot
to ofertittow t;.e is hole freliiiVOf society.—(lleer,

heart:J-4-11w these projectsowere salt to be
vi-
sionaty, and the Learned (it:micro/in thought they
hail never been of importance till they were
brought i.nta notice by persecution. Pedlimation
Did this chiracter belong to the proceedings in-
stituted agliios( those MI6 had se( Out on their
career in opposition to all law Hut is WAS true,
that the schemes of these persons were visionary,
and he wOuld admit they hail lain by for t wen y
years without being found to produce mischief.
It was not so much to these doctrines (hitt he ob-
jected : but when their votaries went faith arm-
ed, to exert physical strength, flat to accoMplish
their avowed plan—(that was impracticable),
but to attack the existing system ; and when their
views were such, that having gained, their first
stage they were indifferent about what might
follow, 40 the present ()Nina things was clittoged,
he was of opinitM !here was some danger. He
did not lowlife to the Spenceans that they really
wished to divide the land ; no,--hut iie nid impute
to them that they wished to take it. Did he tor
a moment imagine that they tonsil carry into ef-
fect their scheme for an Agrarlin division of pro,
perry No ; but he sincerely hollered (And all
history taught him that the opinion was not ill

• ••
founded), that they would labour hard to accom-
plish the spoliation of its picscut possessors. They
all knew that in Rome this scheme had often
been brought forward, and bad always found liar-,
But on the subject of Parliamentary Re-
foini, there could be no doubt as to the dangerous
designs of certain persons in the countts. These
were not only
.opposed by 'Ministers, but the
Honourable Gentleman's friends,
Gentleman himself, were with them oil Point.
The Learned Gentleman himself had said, that if
some of the plans brought forward out of doors'
were carried into 'effect, they must lead to ruin
and confusiou, Was there nothing daubing in
these, he would allt—was there nothing alarming
in plans, which Guntlemen so friendly to the
liberties of the pe 'plc as the Gentlemeu opposite
were, thought. would he 64 ruinous if reduced to
practice, as 'Bey were absurd in theory ?—(Hear,
bear, hear !)—lt .vas to check evils so alartning,
and in mercy to thtine who were engaged in those
designs to oliich he had alluded, that the mlinstires
now called fur were required, in the hope that
they would am t the neeessity.of having recokse
to the last exttettiny of punishment. It was
said that the numbers concerned in the late dis-
turbances wet e not so great its to justify serious
alarm, btit he held the mealures now under consi-
deration to be necessary, to check the inisitliiist to
time and to protect the many agaima the few,
who failed not to make up in violence what they

wanted hi numbers. 1110". not the history of the
last iive•and.twenty years sufficiently pioved that
the disafivetcd were not to he overlooked because
their number was not great ! Could it so soon
be forgotten how often the world hailseen such

stitiguitialy minorities tiding in blood over the
necks of their prostrute countrymen. Ought they
to ae( aS if they had not witnessed the scenes of
the French 111 kohl! inn, in which the tew were

seen triumphant over the many, and in which the
absurd and incredible them ies 01 despet,rite Men hail
been reduced to bloonly pratticc hear !)
Who believed, when atheism was professed iu
Frani , and hen it Wfltitieclared by the NA( iOnid
Assembly, that the persuasion that death Was
nothing more than ;to eternal. 'steep'' Was the
only rati' ,!;11 creed for roan—wlio believed that
such in .s Awn:lily could Boarish-? Who
woold not have held up his hauds at the fully
which CY.petted the prolt'SSOls of such opinions
could to,-!ke pt ielytcs ? But ought they to do this
now Lou they had seen what had followed—
that roielytes ilad been made—that a great na•
lion, tabbed of its yi,,o and it morality, had
been robbed of the aims .might have saved
her from anarchy ? The.sovereigmy of the people
had been asserted, and in their namt. it was kirown
tiot France hail seen the whole of the upper orders
swept from t he facto(' the earth—that earth deluged
with the best hlood of the people; and those
criums frllowed by a long trail; of harems, which
bad ended in a tterneffiloile but compat,itively sa-
lutary despotism.---(Hear, hear, heti). !)—What
had Ciller; from the Noble Lord ott the subject of
those concerned in the late diStorbarsees having
looked up for support to thipi, who it; might have
been expected, from their rank in life, would not
lend themselves to their designs ? His Noble
Friend had not meant to blame, but to caution those
who might be thins applied to, lest intending but to
countenance the ostensible objects of particular
Meetings, they should be made the means of
forwarding projects which could not he avowed,
and raise a phantoin.of hope by which the disaf-
fected might more easily cheat their deluded fol.
lowers. But it was Said who would take the
lead in such cases, after what bad occurred ?
Ile thought tha' question had already been
well answered. lie aid not know that any man
would conic forward to place himself at the head
of a band of conspirators, but Ire.
fluently made men, it was nut probable that
Robespierre bad froM infancy centte*pletett. the
bad dignity which be had eifitined in his matnre
years. Men were formed according to the sphere
m which they moved, flout the
,habits and prin-
ciples of those with whom they associated. lie
spec[ for religion was subdued, when once the
name of God was erased from the human heart ;
a heart so void was easily taught to hate its fel-
loiv.creatures. This borne in mind, let tiny wan
read but a tenth part of the public.nionS HOW cir-
culating in all parts of thetountry with a devilish
zeal, and say if there were not winger front pub-
lications intentionally directed against religion, to
effect the destruction of that creed which was the
best guard of all human virtue—the heft conso.
lotion for human Misery. These publiekniorta met
the eye in all quarters, wherever distress was
to be inflamed; where politics were discussed,
the hm,iheas of the State disposed of, insults to
religion succeeded, as if to shew the relaxation
of religion was infidelity. tinder -Stich circum-
stance.; was it too much that site Government
should ask to be armed with extraordinary powers?
We had, in former limes, differences enough in
this country, butt those of nor time were very die,.
similar from those Of other days. 113 the civil wars
principle was opposed to principle democracy was
opposed to aristocracy, and democracy triumphed.
Negation was 1101 till now Oppet+cd to principle,
aud the Iv otk of destruction commenced fear the

sake of destroying. Independence %Vat unpMeti
to episcopacy, and independence triumphed, but
negation was not opposed to God. It was left for
Reformers of modern date to strip the mind of all
reverence for the Ueity in order to prepare the
nntnto become a remorseless assassin. The same
sense at duty which now caused Ministers to aptirj:
for thee. Bills would cause theta to come to Par.,.
liament for still
_greater flowers if these became
necessary ; but what they had asked they were sa-
tisfied would prove suffiCient. Two of the four
were :approved by the Hon. Gentleman. The third
lie did not wholly object to, though he reserved
to himself -the right. of criticising it in its pas-.
sage through the H ante . It was only the.fourth
that tact with his unqualified disapprobation.
The Committee having.declated that the ordinary
powers given to Ministers by the Constitution ,
were not sufficient, they had performed their ditty
by, coming to Parliament for new laws. They
asked theta not as a boon, hut urgeil by duty, 014
were willing to receive them to protect the sound
. part of the people against the designing tew. ltc
was the joint. duty of Ministers and of Parlimnentr
to preserve the Constitution. Ministers had dope
all that was
it for them to do; the Coast it tainnt

was now in the hands of the House, and it wast
for them to say whether or not it should be pre-
seryed—,whetherits internal beauty and external
grandeur should be sacrified or saved..—(Loud
cheering from all parts of the House.)
Lord A LTUORPE was.understood to support the present
motion, but reserved to himself the right of opposing such 'of
the measures about to he brought betore them as should ap-
pear to bins to be objectionable in their passage through the.
Hou.e.
The House then divided on the first motion of the Noble
Lord, when the numbers, were.--
For the Motion 140
Against it
Majority for bringing in the first Bill JiG
On our Worn to the Gallery,
Lord CASTLEREAGH brought in the Bill ft;, the more
effectual prevention of Seditious Assenthlie... The Lb IVIIS i cad
a first and ordered to be read scrotal time on WednesdAv.
The Bills for rendering more penal the attempts to seduce
the soldiers and sailors of his Majesty's Army and Navy ; ;tad
for extending the provisions of an Act fur the protection of
his Majesty's Person to the Prince Regent, wei.e brought inn,'
and were severally read a first time,:and ordered to be rywara
second time on Wane-Ain and to be printed..
Adjourned at Half-past Twelve.

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THE SUN-.

soixm (pus olcultr: rAt,4O:4

LONDON,
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 25, 1817.

We announce with regret that the PRINce Ril•
CadT has been indisposed, though it affords us
great satisfaction to add, that his Royal High-
ness is now touch better.

It is a true British principle to he jealous of our
Bights and Libecties. We truit in Beaveifft
will Continue in its fullest force for ages to eOlp,*.i
But there are other objects for jealousy besides!
the kingly authority and the Ministers of the Conn
try. Our rights may be more ten ibly trampled upon
by lawless Mobs, and our ribertiee more bloodily
debit oyed by demoeratical conspirators Ann ;he one.
can be invaded, or the other-overthrown by the ut-
most efforts of royalty outstretching its prerogn.
five, and aristocracy usurping MlCOUStitlitiolll4l
fluence. We put it to the sense of the Country to
pronounce itt what predicament we now stand with
regard to these points. Are we in danger from
the Crown, from its servants, from. the higher-
ranks, or. front the lowest If the answer
be what we anticipate it must be, then is it abso-
ltttely
indispensible for the salvation of England.
that the Executive should be armed with4lc
additional powers required by Government, and
which, from the immense majority in both Houses'
last night, there is no doubt GoverntuetwWi l
obtain: •To these important discussions (whie
We unwillingly abridge in parts) we beg to refer.
The measures proposed are,
1. 'l'o. /It twist. t.4.ditiuus meatier: and. Debating.. Societies.
2. To drclare it Irligh Treason to attempt the Sednetion of
his Maje,ty's TrOops item their allegiance.
a. To extend to the person of r the ‘lrrincv Reitent the provi-
sions of an Act pa”.ed tot the protection of the King, ull his
way to and from the Houses of Parliament.
4: To snip :rid the Habeas corpus Act, in England only,

cannot insert the Discussions of the of Peers,tin
consequei,ce of devoting our colomns so tlclusively to the vi-
tally hopurtant Debate in the House of Commons. The
Ilaheas Corpus Act went through all its stages,ana was passed
and ordered to the Continuos.. A division taint- place
.the
question of the second reading, when the nuAbers were I,Q
to 354

Four clays' Paris Papers, to the 21st ipelnsive,
have arrived. Were they important, us they are, the,
reverse, we could only find roots to-day to ,not
them very biiefly. The Funds ate at 60iin the
Loan having been finally settlesl on the Eith., Th,
debate on the Budget continues. The Duke of
Wetttncrron gave a grand-Fine on the 18tb, at
which all the Bourbon Princes and Princesses
were present. The Princess of Watns visited
Turin on the lOth. There has been a tumult at
Stadt, and a mutiny of Janizaries at Smyrna.

A'Flanders Mail arrived tilts Morning, from
which we ex traet the following articles :--
" Bauisco, Fta.sO.—This morning, tst daybreak, the
ringing of the liras' and a salute of lot cannon, announced'
to the inhabitants of this City the accouchement of her Im-
perial Highness the Princess of Orange, who has fulfilled all
our rape., by giving to the Belgians. an heir of the valunr
and the virtues of his august hither. The following is the
Bulletin r--* Her Imperial Highness the Princess of Oratipt
was happily delivered yesteriky evening, ut half-past t`Cir
o'clock, of a Prince, who is perfectly well, as Is also per Ile,
peril and 'loyal Highness his mother,'
" FEB. 9.1 --News from Itatisbon announce 'the l 441'70f1'
the Pritace Priusiste." tic