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APPREHENSION OF OFFENDERS BILL.
This Bill was read a second time and ordered to be com-
mitted tomorrow at twelve o'clock.
LAND) BILL.
TAXING MASTERS' COURT OF CHANCERY (IRE-
NATIONAL TRADES' CON-
FF.RENCE.—( THIS DAY.) This Bill was read a third time and passed.
The National Trades' Conferecce having, at their meeting LIBEL BILL.
on the 24th March last, in London, resolved to hold another This Bill was read a third time and passed.
Meeting on the last Monday in July, assembled this day in GAMES AND WAGERS BILL.
Pursuance of the resolutions at the Literary and Scientific In- The House then went into Committee on this Bill.
atitution, John-street, Fitzroy-square, for the purpose of taking Clauses up to 16 were agreed to with a few verbal artier d-
ines consideration certain plans of organization. The meet- menta.
ing was Sited to be held at three o'clock, and shortly after
that hour On clause 17 being proposed, which legalised subscriptions
to the turf,
Tnoetes S. DUNCOMBE, F,sq., m.p., arrived and took Mr. C. BERKELEY objected to this one-sided legislation
the chair, but at that hour there were not many delegates which went, he contended, to legalise gambling one way, while
present.
The CxglttatAv, on taking his seat, said he was so well
it attempted to put it aside in another. He should take the
sense of the House upon the question, whether the clause should
aware of the great importance of time to the Delegates on the stand part of the Bill.
present occasion, as well as of the necessity for economising Sir JAMES GRAHAM defended the clause.
the funds of those whom the Delegates represented, that he Strangers were ordered to withdraw, and the Committee di-
would not occupy their time by addressing them at any vided, when there appeared—
length, but, at the same time, he could not permit this i For the clause
opportunity to pass without expressing the gratifica- I Against it 3
titan it afforded him and the other members of Majority for the clause
the Committee at again meeting this assembly of the The clause was then agreed to, as were the other clauses, and
representatives of the working-classes. lie could assure the the Bill was ordered to be reported to-morrow at twelve
Delegates that during the time that had elapsed since he last o'clock.
had the pleasure of meeting them, that the Committee had not CHURCH BUILDING ACTS AMENDMENT BILL.
been idle or apathetic in the services of those who had confided This Bill was read a third time.
to them the duty of acting as their Committee, but that they On the question that the Bill do pass,
had devoted all the powers of their minds to the best interests of l Mr. NICHOLL moved the addition of the following
the trades : and all he could say was, that the result of their la- clause, which was agreed to :—" And be it enacted, that
blurs only convinced them the more of the necessity that existed where, at the passing of this Act, there is not any
for a perfect organization of the trades, and that every day's ex- consecrated church in one of two parishes which may
perienee proved how beneficial such an c,rgan.zation must have been for thirty years next before the passing of
prove. The Committee had considered the importance of the this Act united, or reputed to have been united, for
suggestion thrown out at the last meeting—namely, the plan ecclesiastical purposes, and where a new church has been or
for :he better organ cation of the trades for the purpose of em- shall hereafter be built wholly or in part out of any funds at the
ploying the surplus labour of the country in agricultural and disposal of her Majesty's said Commissioners, in the said parish
manufacturing pursuits. He was aware that this plan was in which there is not any such church as aforesaid, the whole
only now put forward as ono which should be better consi- lof such parish may, after the consecration of such new church,
dered ; arid he also begged to state that there was an impres- I be disunited for ecclesiastical I urposes from the other parish,
slots abroad that this meeting had been held too soon, and that and may be formed into a separate and distinct parish for
sufficient time had not been afforded to many of the trades in such purposes, with the same consents, in the same manner,
different parts of the country to consider those plans and sagges- and under and subject to the same provisions and consequences
tions, and therefore it would be well fur this meetingtoconsider I as arc mentioned and contained in the hereinbefore recited
that fact. At the same time the Committee, being aware that Acts or any of them, or in this Act, relative to the formation
this meeting would be held, they had prepared their report, I of a distinct and separate parish, where the same is formed out
though they knew that but few persons would attend; but it i of one par;sh not united with another parish."
would be well to hold it if for no other purpose than to consider to The clause was added to the Bill, and the Bill passed.
what time they would aijourn the meeting. The delegates The House then adjourned till Five o'clock.
would thus see that the Committee had not broken faith with
them, or that their exertions had not been paralysed,
or that what had been (lune was a failure ; but at
the same time he did think it his duty to state that this meeting
was deemed premature; and therefore, if the meeting thought
proper, they could postpone it. The plan would be now read,
and it could be discussed. The meeting was not called upon to
aadopt the plan, bat to discuss it, and it would be found to eon-
n much valuable Information, which could not be had from
art 7 Parliamentary returns.
the Seceera RY then read the standing orders, which were
adopted. He next proceeded to read the plan, whereupon a
discussion arose as to the mode to be adopted in regard to
the details of the plan.
The Delegate from Bristol said he had bees requested by his
constituents to submit another plan.
The Delegate from the Potteries said that his constituents
had ins,ructed him to say that they concurred in the sugges-
tions in respect to land. After a few observations from sums
other Delega' es,
The SECRETARY proceeded to read the plan, and when he
had concluded,
The BRDITOL DELEGATE again rose, and hoped that he
might be permitted to postpone reading his plan until to-
Morrow, as he did not feel well.
The, CiI'ARMAN said that the meeting had resolved to hear
read the only other plan to be submitted, and that was one
fro% Bristol.
The Bristol Delegate then proceeded to read the report.
The following is the substance of the plan submitted by the
Committee

REAL PROPERTY BILL.
The Real Property (No. 3) Bill was read a third tim,. and
assed.

SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock.

The Iloo,t: resum, d at Five o'clock.
REPORTS.

retorts on the Charity and the Ellison's
Estate Bill wt re br, ught up and agreed to.
SMALL DEBTS BILL.

Mr. H. BERKELEY that owing to the otter
busine,s upon the p,,pur, it would not be in the power
of the House to consider rud di,zcuss this Bill, which
stood for the third reading that evening. He should,
thertiore, wi&.h to know Low they might have the dis-
cussion, as he intended to move an amendment upon
one of the clutt,es,

Sir J. GIL M, with the view of arommodating,
the Hop. M, tuber, would then move that the order of
the day oa Bill be discharged, for the purpose of
moving- that it be read a third time to-morrow, at
twelve o'clock.

Sir VALEINTINI.,; BLAKE said, that as the Legis-
lative limcii,,ns of that House was about to be suspendod,
lie begged leave to make a few observations upon the
conduct of an individual, and upon the policy of the
Government during the present suasion.
Aftnr an observation from the SPEAKER, upon a point
of or&r,

GOV ERNMENT.
CONFERENCE.—The legislative power shall be vested in an
Minuet conference of Delegates front the several trades in the
Association.

ANNUAL SESSIONS.—An annual session of conference shall be
held on Whit-Monday, in such town and places as may be deter.
mined upon.
SPECIAL SBSSIONS —The central committee shall have the power
44 convening a special session of conference when it shall appear
necessary.
BususEss PAPER.—One month previous to the assembly of the
anneal Conference, the Central Committee shall cause to be pre.
Pitted and issued a business paper, or programme of the matters
Intended to be brought under the consideration of the Conference.
Poweas.—The Conference shall have power to make and revise
the laws of the Association, subject to ccrtain regulations.
EtEcTioNs.—Within one month previous to Whit-Monday in
„"Ch Year, the Central Committee shall issue their precept to pro-
to,‘ the election of a Delegate or Delegates to represent them
"I Conference for the ensuing year.

CENTRAL COMMITTEE.
Poirzets AND Dm-min.—The Central Committee shall direct
4144 Control the general proceedings of the Association for and
in the name of the Association. They shall have the power to
cisbiect to or approve of strikes, when other means to settle dis.
ted matters fail; and of raising from time to time such levies
ss rosy be necessary for the support of those strikes and turn-outs
they may sanction. They shall by meditation, arbitration, and
is they
Proceedings, protect the interests and promote the well being
c 'the Associated Trades in all cases of trade disputes and difll-
ed-"es• They shall promote all measures, political, social, or
, ',cations], which are intended to improve the condi,ion of the
classes ; and, generally, they shall take the most efficient
Deana in their power to promote the objects of th, Association.

The Honourable Baronet proceeded to say, that he
wished to address himself to the Right Honourable
Bart. a the head of the Government, who had promoted
several individuals to luearative situations but upon one
individual had cast a most unenviable notoriety, It
would be in the recollection of the house that the late
debate, when the question of the opening of Trinity
College, Dublin, to fersons of all religious persuasions
was the suhj: et of discussion, the Right Hon. Baronet
said that the Catholic Warden of Galway hao signed a
petition in favour of the Irish Colleges Bill. He—(Sir
V. Blake) did not wish to interrupt, for an interruption
even to so grtat a gun as the Right Hon. Baronet would
not be acceptable—(laughter)—although he were in error.
The Maynooth Bill was valiantly passed.—(Laughter.)
The Right lieu. Baronet was very improperly alluded to
in the discussion on that measure. It was stated that
he had been guilty of faithlessness to his party, and it
was ultimately alleged that he was guilty of perfidy.
The Right Honourable Baronet was not guilty of
anything like perfidy. He was not, certainly,
in unity with a moiety of his party, but that moiety had
no right to say that he had abandoned his party, because
the greater portion of his party supported him. Those
individuals who attributed perfidy to him had no idea of
the sacred scheme, and the working of the Bill.
ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE.

FUNDS.
isNSRS OFANAGENENT.—ach trade in the Assoc
*hall r
conE tribute one penny per month for each paying member.iation
c StitilAs, TURN-OUTS, AND LAW PROCEEDINGS.—The Central
°rntaiitee shall from time to time raise such levies from the as.
:°ciated trades as may be requisite fur the maintenance of such
tteetitkosturn.outs, law proceedings, or other measures for the pro-
industry to which they shall have given their sanction.
ca. "en' are several other ea• ses, but they are provissions for
•
.4 out the report in detail.
When the liri,tol Delegate had concluded,
t, The Delegate from the cigar-makers suggested that as the
ast read plan had not had any consideration, it should be re-
krred to a Committee.
The Delegate trom the Potteries thought that the adoption
f that rt:poi•t veuld only have the effect of throwing the apple
of &score ,mtnigst thr.m. for there were some trades who would
agree to the laud proposition, and no other, and others who
agree only to the strike plat,, &e. He concluded by proposing
a req,lutt,zi to the effect, that it was the opinion of this con-
ference that to attempt a general union of trades upon the
cOmbined principle of the two-fold object of strikes and the
Purchase or rental of land, would be impracticable, and there-
-4 forerence.
prejudicial to the organisation desired by the present
iecon-
After a Delegate had objected to the amendment, it was put
and carried, and the meeting then agreed that each Delegate
should have the power of admitting four friends to the gallery ;
and some other matte's of a routii:o character having been dis-
P°l'd of, the delegates adjourned till ten o'clock to-morrow.

Mr. HENLEY wished to ask the Right Honourable
Baronet the Secretary of State for the Home Depart-
ment, wieti- er the letter written by him to the magis-
trates of Stafford upon the subject of administering Jus-
tice in their own houses applied generally to magistrates.
Sir J. GRAHAM said, that Hon. Members would
perceive, frf-m the Report which lay upen the table, that
in the ca,e raterred to, the Magistrate had decided a
case of trespass in his own house, without the presence
of a clerk or any other Magistrate, He must certainly
repeat his opinion as to the impolicy of this line of con-
duct in ull cases.

Mr. lIENLEY said he had, according to his notion
another question to put to the Right Hon. Baronet. He
wished to ask whether it was intended to bring in
any measure to relieve magistrates from the re-
sponsibtlity of dealing with those parties that might
i,e brought before them. His reason for putting the
que-tton was, that there were now a great number of
railway Bills, in which clauses were inserted, requiring
the magistrates to divide summarily upon cases brought
before them by the servants of the Companies.
Sir J. GRA HAM said that he did not see any neces-
sity to atter the law.
tll r. HUAI E said he thought the House would not
object to relieve the county magistrates of all respon-
sibility, and to have stipendiary magistrates appointed.
(LEFT AITTING. )

RAILWAY COMMITTEES.

HOUSE OF LORDS.
Their Lordships met soon after Five o'clock.
SOUTH WALES RAILWAY.
Lord PORTMAN brought up the report of the Se'ect
Committee on this railway Bill, which was ordered to
be received.
DUBLIN AND GALWAY RAILWAY.

(THIS DAY.)

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
GROUP 1.
LONDON .PIND YORE LINE.
lir
aTile members of this group—Viscount Ceurtenay (Chairman),
*I)InMY, Mr. P. Screpe, and Mr. B. Wall—resumed this morn.
1,
I
customary hcur, and proceeded with the discussion and
eohsertionthe of such clauses in the London and York Bill as had been
n.cetied by its promoters.
the formal business having concluded, the question was put
4:4.t the Bill, as amended, slioull be reported to the House, which
Itte carried in the affirmative,
gat. %axe, Q.C., proceeded to call witnesses on behalf of the
atat-i7eln sad Lincolnshire line from Sheffield to Gainsborough,
vter'lB his intention of deferring any observations en the case till
all his evidence had een adiuced. n this
1044-• E. WALL observed b
that perhaps theO Learned Counsel would
°t take cavell °PPortunity of adds
easing the Committee at all if he dia
;" to speak when he could.
ithL.•:raLsoT, Q.C., intimated his intention of opposing the
Fitz7..e on behalf vi
several landholders, including the Earl of
William and the Hon Mr. Simpson.
r• J. Parker, M.P. for Shi ffield, examined by Mr. Bailee,
tL
til'edeposed to having succeeded Lord Wharncliffe as chairman
Sheffieldtow and Manchester Railway, the whole of which is
in th°Pens except a tunnel, which will be completed for public use
tweee course of two months. The witness thought the line be.
the ,).5 Sheffield and Lincoln a great desideratum, indeed, that and
In Sheffield
he represented would be " perfect Siamese twins."
)44'. Granville Vernon, examined by Mr. BAINES, Q.C.—ls
be,
°bet. r for East Retford, whose inhabitants, to the num-
Proi._ 4,500, are universally impressed with the importance of the
"-;t• under consideration. The districts are wholly agricultural
mistand in need of a speedier means of accommodation.
hid Elliston, agent to the Duke of Norfolk, corroborated the
11,irenee of this and the preceding witness, and the Committee at
Past four adjourned till to.morrow at noon.
ST

The Earl of BESBOROUGH postponed the further
consideration of the report on the Dublin and Galway
Railway Bill till to-morrow.

The -ABIDING ORDERS COMMITTEE.
>t►ittee, Manchester and Letcis Railway Bill passed through Com-

PERIAL PARMA MEA
(THIS EVENING)

~.
h HOUSE OF COMMONS
The House met shortly after Twelve o'clock. a
Rse,The following reports were brought up and. a ocputsetdo,ma.nduitwhes
epeal'lilsordered to he read a third time to-morrow .
W Bill, Cuqoms Management Bill, Customs_Dutiiensglaiinldl,
N 41.0tnusing of Goods Bill, British A essels.Bills h
cult:tl,l.ta,tiuil Bill, Trade of British Possessions SAbroadippTßilile,
dill "csits Bounties and Allowance Bill,
ti.i.ealuggling Prevention Bill, Customs Regulation ~tock in Trade Bill. hleOf
l‘hßn Bill,
tilt, ,S.s. CRAWFORD hr. ught in the Tenants (Ireland)
wnien was read a first time.
t i as REMOVAL OF PAUPERS BILL.
,iiin.
si King up the report on this. Bill,
th ENHAM NORREYS objected to the provisions of
*43 rlO promaking arr.ohvision for English paupers, while there
a Sir JAIL"GfiaI-3V.lllesna.id that, inasmuch as the expense
trush-: ,he removal of these paupers was thrown upon the English
es he thought, that if any ono, the great towns, such as
po„,, or Liverpool, where great numbers of Irishmen resided,
std have the most reason to emplain.
tinl%h• SHA.RAIAN CRAWFORD objected to the early.pnr-
t" °f the second clause, as separating families and dividing
-,xnenabers from each other.
4, fter a few words from Mr. HENLEY and Mr. PALMER,
visions JANIES GRAHAM said, that, according to the. pro-
f? i°ris of this Bill, no head of an Irish fam.ly could be divided
cra:::::::.thers without the au! fu rities incurring very severe
r nalties, and therefore he thought that the apprehension was
jr:sth.°N SA NDON suggested that en alteration might be made.
pae 6 Pr°visions of the Bill to state to what place the Irish
to
anewhould be transhipped, fur at present they might be sent
Sir re, at the charge of the whole county of Lancaster.
11%/0,,i,r J. GRAHAM said that aftcr the observirions cf the
Rill Lord the Irish Members ought to be satisfied that the
s
tvhi,,‘:7l.3 a great chang- for the better. Heretofore Liverpool,
1 s 'a nad a population of St),(0) Irish labourers, and whose
porker it. required, could, at any time that their laheur was
the 87_91.11red, ship them off to Dublin in the cheapest packet on
by thiatr at the cost of the whole county of Lancaster, while
~,,ith
tte Bill, the town which enkled the benefit was charged
the
placeu the
of the shipment, and was obliged. to ascertan
fah port of birth, and to send the parties and their families to
Sir or Were nearest to their usual places of residence.
The 0 ORREYS v.-ithdrew his Opposition.
thirrt,report was received, and the Bill ordered to be read a
nze to-tuorruw.
The
reportOUßT OF CHANCERY RILL.
0rd.....,ts Bill was brought up, t. 5 pig was
".‘q tO be reed a third time to-mdrrow, eta*, •o e VI.

The Marquis of CLANRICARDE remarked that he
had glanced over the printed evidence on the subject,
and he certainly could find nothing in it to support the
allegation of the petitioners against the line.
PORTSMOUTH (ATMOSPHERIC) DIRECT