The Sun.
London, England, 1819-02-09 00:00:00

FACTS ARE STUBBORN THINGS.

The ti-niestants of Ireland, England, and Scotland, are
now informed,

That the Papists say they mosT be Emancipated, and have
full power in our Glorious Constitution, for the following
acts that they have committed, which the Protestants are re-
quested to remember :
In the reign of Louis XIV. thousands of Protestants were
dreadfully murdered in one night in France.
In the reign of Queen Maly, several hundred Protestants
were murdered and burnt ! and their only crime was their
being Protestants ! Smithfield in Loudon was the slaughter-
house.

Surely no one can forget the horrid barbarities committed
by these Papists, on the innocent Protestants; at the follow-
ing places in Ireland :1
On the Bridge of Wexford.
The darn of Scullabogue.
On Vinegar and Biackinore Hills.
In the-Town of Prosperous.
And in many others.

And, above all, do not forget the words of Doctor Drum-
goole, one -of the leading Members of the Papists' Com-

mittee :

" That, by their Religion; no Papist could hold or keep
faith with Heretice—toegning Protestants."
• As the Papists, from time to time, have committed the
above horrid acts, the Spirits of King William, Lord Kil-
warden, Lord O'Neill, Lord Mountjoy, George Ogle, Capt.
Stainer, Captain Giffard, Colonel Brown, and Sir Richard
Musgrave, call on the PrOtestantsto pause; to make a stand;
and to rally round our Gracious King, ; and Glorious Consti-
tution, and thereby prevent the Papists from obtaining any
further power in these countries.

My Protestant Brethren should recollect, that they are great-
ly out-numbered by the Papists of this kingdom, and should
they get possession of all the priVileges of the Constitution,
must of consequence, from their numerical strength, become
the Lords Paramount of the Country. The record of former, and
the experience of our own times, let us fully know the kind of
indulgence Papists,when in power, are in the habit of granting
to Protestants. Let not, then, our liberality merge into folly—
let ns not take from their shoulders what they are pleased to
call a Burthea, to enable them to place a heavier one upon
Ours. Finally, let us be just before we are generous: let us
recollect we possess no more than a life interest in our Gin-
lions Constitution,..purchascd by the blood of our Fore-
fathers, and handed down to us unimpaired.---We are, there-
fore, bound, by every honourable and natural tie, as far as
in our power lies, to translait it to our children without far-
ther iunovatiou.

The Elel-ot LAUDRRDALE presented a Petition
front various Electors of the City-of Westminiter,
whose n.nies were thereunto subscribed, against
this as, among various other objections,
they held the measure as - tending to violate the
freedom of Election, by compelling the Candi-
dates to expend large sums of moirey, &c.
The Petition being read, was ordered to lie on
the table.
Viscount SIDNIOUTH then moved the second
reading of the Bill.
The Earl of LAUDBRDALS observed, he enter-
tained very steopg objections to the measufe ; it
was-the only one of the kind he believed that was
ever introduced into that House, and lie c,nceiv-
ed ie to be in its operation and effect an ex post
fucto law. There was no sort of neees i y tor
the measure ; the common' law of the land erns
amply sufficient for the purpose, and through
it,
the Hirsh Bailiff of Westminster could he fully in--
demnified for any reason,,ble expences he may in-,
cur. The Noble Secretary of State, he observed,
shook his head ; but he must contend, that Lord
Chief Justice tYlenborough had so deciMed in the
action brought in' his Court -against Sir Francis
Burdett, by that Officer, for his share of the ex-
pences of an Election. The Chief Justice, and
also Mr. Justice Le Blanc, expressly stated, that
by the-common law *of the country, the High
Bailiff may recover the expellee's he incurred in
the erection of the Hustings 'row those nho re-
ceived the benefit of them, and sweh persons were
liable to pay the expences. Ike should like to
know upon what principle, or upon what ground,
the doctrine laid down by those Learned Judges
could be-controverted.

Viscount SimsOtrrn stated, that in consequence
Of applications which bad been made to nim as
High Steward of the Cityof lirestminster, be held
it his duty to come forward to their Lordships,
in support of the present Bill. The real question
briefly was, whether such accommodation as was
felt necessary for the Electors for Westminster,
and provided by the Act of the 51st of his Majes-
ty, should or should not be now provided for a
similar purpose ? And another question was, at
whose expeuce should such accommodation be
provided ? The decision of the. Noble and Learn.
ed Judge adverted.to was, he believed, in 1808;
but it was in 1811 that the Act, which the Bill
-new More the !louse proposed Co continue, was
passed. It S' as provided that a sufficient number
of places for polling, and clerks for taking the
same, should be provided at the expense of the
Candidates. The expellees of the clerks were tat
to exceed a guinea d-day for each.—(Several ex-
tracts -from the Rill were read by the Clerk at the
Noble Viscount's desire.)—His Lordship conti•
nued, that it was deemed necessary to propose
such regulations in order to prevent the disorder
and confusion at Elections Which would other•
wise inevitably take 'place, unless it were meant
to be said that the High Bailiffsboidd at rend
,him-
self in person with only one clerk, for the purpose
of taking the poll. Their Lordships should hear
in min 'the number of Electors -exceeded 14,000,
and the -Election may last fiff eel; days, so
tha•' they could easily imagine what progress
could be made in the polling, on such a seals
of acconimodation. In .fact, not a iourteenth
part of the numerous Electors ‘could be Toll-
ed. They all knew, by melancholy experience,
what a scene of disorder, riot, and confusion,
must necessarily result from such a total want of
accommodation ; and that at least such an attempt
to conduct an election for Westminster would be
ithpracticable. 'The opinion et the Learned
Judges as referred to was, in point of fact, hs
believed, that an action would lie against the
Candidates for any reasonable expenses incurred.
The Act passed in 1811 was to continue for two
years, and it was thought afterwards expedient
and necessary to continue it for six years,. It
expired with the commencement of the present
year, and the present Bill was to revive and con-
tinue the provisions of that Act. The necessity
of continuing such a salutary arrangement must,
after tine experience they had, be obvious to their
Lordships, and on these grounds he should move-
the second reading of the Bill in question.

The Earl of LAUDERDALE spoke at some length
in explanation. Ile differed from the Noble
Viscount as to the doctrine laid down on the oc.
casion by the -late Lord Chief Justice. But there
appeared to him to be another consideration con.
fleeted with the present case : it was known that
The High Bailiffpaid a large sum for his situation
to the Dean rand Chapter of Westminster, and .if
it was peopOsed to give the High Bailiff that, by
a specific Act, which the common law did pot, on
a future opportunity those personages might get
a larger stun for the situation. The 'present. Bill,
he must repeat, would operate as an ex post facto
lbw, and in a way distinct from that which re-go.
rated the mode of election for other places in the
kingdom. He would certainly take.the sense of
their Lordships on the measure.
The, question' being put, a diVision accordingly
took placer—

Contents
Not Contents

Majority for the Bill 9
which was accordingly read the second time.

GRANTS IN REVERSION.

On re-entering the House,

Earl GROSVENOR was addressing their Lordships
on this subject, in which he repeated a few of his
general objections to the practice, He felt it his