The Sun.
London, England, 1844-05-06 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour.
On the motion of Sir T. FREMANTLE, a new
writ was ordered for the borough of Abingdon, in the
room of Thomas Duffield, Esq., who since his election
has accepted the office of steward of her Majesty's
Chiltern Hundreds.
Mr. MACKINNON presented a petition in favour of
protection to agriculture.
Mr. F. MAIILE and Mr. Ross presented petitions
praying the House to legalise Presbyterian marriages.
The Liverpool Fire Prevention Bill was reported.
Mr. TRELAWNEY presented a petition from Corn-
wall, praying for a redaction of the duty on foreign sugar.
LANCASTER AND CARLISLE RAILWAY.
Lord GRANVILLE SOMERSET moved that the
amendments made by the Lords to the Lancaster and
Carlisle Railway Bill be referred to the following Mem-
bers, for their consideration and report, viz. :—Mr Est-
court, Mr. Miles, Mr. Strutt, Sir William Heathcote, Mr.
Aglionby, Sir John Yarde Buller, Mr. Wilson Patten,
Mr. Pendarves, Mr. Ord, Sir Robert Ferguson, and Mr.
Cumming Bruce ; with power to send for persons, pa-
pers, and records.—Agreed to.
Mr. DENNISTOUN presented a petition from the
master cotton-spinners and power-loom cloth manufac-
turers of Glasgow, against any further interference with
the hours of labour in factories; and a petition from the
operative coopers of Glasgow, for the repeal of the duty
on foreign staves.
Mr. 1). HOWARD presented a petition from the
operatives of Carlisle against any interference with the
hours of labour in factories.
Sir G. STRICKLAND presented petitions from
Yorkshire against the Masters and Servants' Bill.
Mr. HUME presented petitions from Montrose against
the Inclosure Bill.
Colonel RUSHBROOKE presented ten petitions
against any alteration in the corn-laws.
PRIVILEGE.

Mr. B. COCHRANE rose to complain of a petition
that had been presented by the Hon. Member for Roch-
dale (Mr. Sharman Crawford) some time since. He had
been told by several persons that one half the signatures
were forgeries, and he had been requested by several of
his principal supporters to inquire by whom that petition
was forwarded for presentation ?
Mr. S. CRAWFORD said the Hon. Member had been
kind enough to intimate to him that he intended to put
the question, and he had searched all his papers to en-
deavour to find anything that would indicate the
source from whence the petition came. That
search had been wholly unsuccessful, and his memory
did not serve him to say from whom the petition came.
If the Honourable Member fo Bridport had sooner
mentioned the case, he might have been able to give him
some information on the subject which he was at pre•
sent utterly unable to do. At the same time, if the
Hon Member could point out any mode of discovering
the parties, he should be happy to assist him in doing so.
Mr. B. COCHRANE made some observations in ra •
ply, but was called to order.
Sir R. 11. INGLIS said the case presented prima facie
evidence of a breach of privilege.
The SPEAKER reminded the Hon. Gentleman that
there was no question before the House.

Sir R. H. ItrGLIS said it was for the purpose of rais
ing a question that he addressed the House.
The Honourable Member had been assured by some
of his constituents that there were forged signatures
attached to the petition. This was calculated to deprive
petitions presented to that House of all their value. He
did not know whether either of the Hon. Members in-
tended to make a motion, but the case was not unde-
serving the attention of the House.
Mr. CRIPI'S stated that ten petitions which were
presented on the Ten Hours' Bill, had the appearance of
being all written and signed by the same person.
Mr. HUME said that he believed there was a resolu-
tion that each petition should be examined by the clerk
at the table, to see if it was right.
The SPEAKER said that the resolution required that
a Member of the House should sign his name to the
petition, but that was not done.
Mr. HUME thought the House ought to come to a
resolution that no petition should be received till it was
signed by the Member who presented it, who would
therefore be responsible for it. He thought her Ma.
jesty's Government should take the matter up ; but if
they did not, he should have no objection to move a re-
solution of the kind.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. DARBY thought it would occasion a great loss
of time if the clerk was obliged to examine every pe-
tition.

Dr. BOWRING thought it would be sufficient if the
Member was to give a character to the petition he pre-
sented by signing his name.
After a few words from Mr. CRIPPS, the subjec
dropped.

NOTICES OF MOTIONS.
POOR LAWS (IRELAND).

Sir D. NORREYS gave notice of a motion for Thurs-
day next, on the subject of the poor-laws (Ireland).
Mr. CURTEIS presented a petition from the Com-
missioners of Rye Harbour, praying that their rights
might not be interfered with by any Inclosure Bill.
Mr. ESCOTT gave notice that in Committee on the
Ecclesiastical Courts Bill he would move the insertion of
a clause to preserve the Court of the Archdeacon of
Canterbury for the purpose of the probate of wills.
In answer to a question from Mr. lIAWES respecting
the Medical Relief Committee (as we understood),
Lord ASHLEY said, that the delay of the report of
the Committee was owing to the Committee having to
go over so much ground, in which considerable time was
occupied. The Committee was now actively engaged
in pursuing, the requisite inquiries, and he trusted they
would be quickly enabled to produce a highly valuable
report.
Dr. BOWRING said, seeing the Right Hon. Gentles
man, the Chancellor of the Exchequer in his place, he
begged to call his attention to a statement which he had
made a few nights ago on the subject of marine insur-
ances. He stated that English underwriters were ex-
posed to severe competition in consequence of the vessels
of foreign ports not having to pay brokerage. The Right
Hon. Gentleman, however, told him that he had
ROUSE OF LORDS. been misinformed. Now he had since ascertained
that what he had stated was, in fact, correct. The
Their Lordships met at Five o'clock.
Senate of Hambergh took ss. in the shape of brokerage.
The Bishbp of
LONDON presented petitions against The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the
the Dissenters' Chapels Bill from Belfast. Hon. Gentleman had misrepresented what he said.
The Earl
of YARLOROUG /I presented a number of What he had said was, that there was a charge on
petitions from places in Lincolnshire against any altera- marine insurances, and this statement he had made on
tion in the corn-laws. good authority, namely, that of Lloyd's. The Hon.
The Earl of STRADBROKE presented similar Gentleman said that it was not levied for the State, but
petitions. in the shape of brokerage ; its being paid in the shape
The Earl of WINCHELSEA presented 120 petitions of brokerage, he conceived, made no difference.
to the same effect from Suffolk and Kent.
IMPORT DUTIES. MEDICAL REFORM BILL.
Lord MONTEAGLE gave notice that on Thursday In reply to a question from Mr. F. MAULS
Sir J. GRAHAM said that the Medical Reform Bill
next he should move that a Select Committee be ap was inN G . B. a state of, preparation.
IMPRISONMENT.
preparation.
pointed to inquire into the effect of protecting duties in IR
the commerce of the country. Mr. ROEBUCK presented a petition from Mr. B.
Lord CAMPBELL presented a number of petitions, Gregory complai • ' of the hardships to which he was
praying their Lordships to legalise Presbyterian mar- subjected in his imprisonment in Newg ate upon a con-
riages in Ireland.
viction for libel. He was
oconfinedn in a solitary cell.
Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from a per- having no bed but a mattress an iron frame,allowed to h
with
'in-
son named Dennis, and M.A. complaining of his having sufficient covering, and the only
been committed to prison in Winchester, as a vagrant, was water-gruel. The Hon. and drinkLearned Memberwoulild
for having sold tracts in the street.—(Laughter.) take that opportunity of asking the Right Hon. Gentle-
The Noble and Learned Lord laid on the table a Bill re- man the Secretary of State whether the gaol of Newgate
gulating the law of Debtor and Creditor, which was read was under his control ? and whether, if so, the hardships
a first time. of which the petitioner complained were suffered under
Lord BEAUMONT laid on the table a Bill to place regulations imposed by the governor, or by some local
Roman Catholics on the same footing as Dissenters, authority ?
with respect to the law relating to charitable bequests. The petition was ordered to lie on the table.
The English Debtors on the Continent .Bill passed Sir J. GRAHAM said, that having had notice of the
through Committee, and was ordered to be read a third Hon. and Learned Gentleman's intention to present this
tine on Monday next. petition, and put his question, he had inquired as to the
Lord CA 'BELL then moved the second reading of particular facts of Mr. Gregory's case. He found that
the Irish Debto-Will. Mr. Gregory had been convicted of a misdemeanour, and
The Earl of. WICKLOW inquired why one Bill would that the offence was (under a statute passed in 1840) di-
mot do for the two countries. ~ vided into two classes, the first being subject to a less
Lord CAMPBELL said the form of proceeding in punishment than the other. Immediately after the
Ireland was different to what it was in En land land , and ' sentence was passed, Gregory moved the Court that he
therefore two Bills were necessary. should be placed in the first class of offenders, but the
After a few
the Bin words from the LORD CHANCELLOR, Court positively refused the motion, and the petitioner
tend a second time.
The Maaswas placed in the second class, and subjected to the
tons in farvcl:l-4.,s ofNORMANBY presented several peti- severer punishment. However, in consequence, of repre-
Noble Marquis ..the Dissenters Chapel's Bill. The sentations that his health was suffering, an alteration
as hich was app,zga
wished to know when the Committee was made in his treatment. He was not kept in solitary
jest of Presbytertaiadn last session to inquire into the sub- confinement—he was placed in a room of a better
Marriages in Irelind would meet kind—was allowed a fire, and many other in-
again.Th e LORI:a dulgences, which would not be allowed to prisoners
present answer the question.
Ci"-NCELLOR said he could .not at of the same class, except upon the representation
The Marquis of NORTHAMPTON that their health was impaired by their confinement.
presented a peti- His diet was under the direction of the medical officer.
tion from the Art Union of Londonnniopraying the House Special directions had been given to the medical prac-
ro pass a bill to legalise the Art
titioner who attended the prison to visit Mr. Gregory
Lord WHARNCLIFFE laid on the of England.he tableoi the once every fortnight, and to report to the Home-office,
House the report of the Committee which had and so far from the health of Mr. Gregory having been
pointed to watch the progress of the building of *age impaired by his protracted confinement, he was better
Houses of Parliament. He stated, that upon the oC
mittee going over the Honks of Parliament, they '4E; now than when he was first confined.—(Laughter.) In
, tocarrying the law into execution, it had not been
cdvered that Mr. Barry the architect had thought fit to extend any indulgence to Mr. Gregory
departed very much from the regulations 1 beyond that which was extended in ordinary cases, and
which were originally laid down by the Committee. The 1, unless it should be represented to him that the pro-
Noble Lord gave notice that he should call the atten- tracted confinement of Mr. Gregory, under these circum-
stances, lion of the House to the subject on Thursday.
dN owtDouulsdhcobTr OF POLICE MAGISTRATES.etedn taingerous to his life, he should not be
THE APPOINTMENT OF MR. O'BRIEN.
pp
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE then rose to call
the attention of the House to the appointment of Mr. Mr. HORSMAN wished to ask the Right Honourable
O'Brien, as a stipendiary magistrate in Ireland. Al- Baronet if he had received any information on the
though this itattleman had very recently expressed very i subject of the conduct of a police magistrate in adjudi-
strong Opinions in favour of the repeal of the Legislative , eating upon a case which had been brought before
union between England and Ireland. Although this him. The case was this:—it appeared that a private
appointment might be considered as a trifling matter, in the Grenadier Guards had accosted a female in the
l t yet be could assure the House that in Ireland such ap • . street, who had just left her house ; that, being f l *gh
r'
intments were matters of the utmost importance. The : ened, she returned towards her home • that she was.
M'deolisideration ofaGovernmentinmakingsuch appoint- : pursued by the soldier, who entered her house with her,
saent'ought to be informed as to the character and stand-' threatened her, and assaulted her; that she screamed
itatteof the person to be appointed ; for the peaceable 1 " Murder," struggled, and fainted. On the investigation
of certain parts of Ireland depended, in a very large ' of these charges before the magistrate, the facts were not
degree' upon
t -.^h.,
, person who filled the office of stipendiary denied, but the man pleaded that he was intoxicated, and
magistrate. - /f _theieh House, e case to which he was then calling the magistrate, in adjudicating on the case, said that,
the attention
o
think could for_ was one which he did tic! ; taking into consideration the circumstance that the man
'
.r a moment be defended by the Govern- ' was ctra2k, he should only impose a fine of 10s. He
ment. H
originally intended by his
was 28 years, and was 'wished to ask the ...,,_
' Po•ht Hon. Gentleman if his attention
parents for the I had been drawn to the ease f
. .

TATTERSALL'S.-THIS EVENING.
QUARTER TO SIX O'CLOCK.
SUFFOLK STAKES.
6 to 4 agot The Cure
2 to I apt Minotaur
DERBY.

5 to 2 agst Rattan
3 to 1 agst Ugly Buck
10 to 1 agst Leander
18 to 1 agst lonian
25 to 1 agst Running Rein
27 to 1 agst Computer.)
27 to 1 agst Bay Momus
30 to 1 agst King of the Gipsies—taken
30 to 1 agst Mount Charles—taken
OAKS.

7 to 1 agstßarricade
7 to 1 agst Sister to Martingale
11 to 1 agst Crenoline
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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
(THIS EVENING.)