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LONDON, SATURDAY, APRIL 19, 1845.

The House of Lords met at Five.
Among the petitions presented were several against
the Maycooth Bill. Among them one was presented by
the Bishop of DUBIIA.M, who stated that he did not agree
with the petitioners, but on the contrary thought that

great merit was due to the Government for introducing

the measure.

In answer to Earl Powls the Duke of WELLINGTON
stated that Ministers had not received her MAJESTY'S

permission to consent to the progress of the Bill for pre•
venting the union of the Sees of St. Asaph and Bangor ;
and Earl Powis gave notice that he would, on Monday,

state the course he intended to pursue.

_
Lord BROUGHAM moved that the standing orders re-
specting railways, which he had brought under the con
sideration of the House, should be printed.
Lord CLANUICARDE brought in a Bill for extending

the elective franchise to persons paying the income

mx, which was read a first time.

The Bastardy Bill was read a third time and passed.
Lord MONTEACLE moved for a return of all grants for

religious purposes to the colonies, which was agreed to,
and their Lordships adjourned. _

The House of Commons met at Four.

Lord G. SOMERSET moved a resolution to deprive

Counsel before Railway Committees of the privilege of

summing up. Finding, however, that his proposition
was opposed, the Noble Lord withdrew his motion.
Mr. MIME gave notice that he should not bring for-
ward his motion on the subject of the recal of Lord EL-
LENBOROUGH, until the Government should be freed
from the annoyance of the opposition to the Maynooth

grant.
In answer to Lord Howicx, it was stated by Lord G
SOMERSET that no order had been made on the subject
of laying the Reports of the Board of Trade before the
Committees on the various Railway Bills which meet on
Monday. A short conversation ensued, in the tours;: of
which several Hon. Members animadverted in seven_
terms on the carelessness which had characterised the
proceedings of the Railway Department of the Board of
Trade from first to last. _ _ _

Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that he intended, on Mon.
day, to state the terms of the motion which he intended
to bring forward, on the Ist of May, on the condition of
the labouring classes.
Sir R. PEEL stated, that in the event of the discus-
sion on the Maynooth Bill closing to-night, he intended
to move, on Monday, that the House do go into Cora.
mittee for the purpose of taking the money vote on the
Bill.
The adjourned debate on the Maynooth Bill was then
resumed by Mr. S. CRAWFORD, who, although he gave
full credit to the Government for proposing the measure
with the kindest disposition towards Ireland, yet felt
compelled to oppose it, as it was contrary to the volun-
tary principle.
Lord CLAUDE 11A3IILTON supported the motion.
Mr. MONTH was opposed to all State endowments,
and therefore he could not support the motion.
Mr. NEVILLE and Mr. BELLEW supported the measure.
Arr. COBDEN considered the question not as a theo-
logical, but as an educational one, and on that ground he
supported the measure.
Mr. FERRAND denounced the Ministry as having
violated every pledge which they had given at the last
election, and opposed the measure as pregnant with
danger to the established religion of the country.
Mr. SHELL said that the inevitable consequence
of not granting the measure would be the increase
of the repeal agitation. He was glad that the
Queen had . been alluded to in the course of
the debate, because it gave him the opportu-
nity of stating that the Queen was personally at-
tached to Ireland. She had expressed to Mr. O'CoN-
NELL her gratification at his elevation to municipal
office. She had expressed to Earl DE GREY her desire
that the Administration should be one of conciliation to
Ireland, and he hoped the day would never come
when a majority of the House of Commons
would step in betweeb the loyalty of the Irish people
and the affection of the Sovereign towards them. In
Canada, where justice had been done to the Catholic
clergy, their loyalty had been a principal means of
preserving the allegiance of that colony to
the mother country. Let them pursue the same
course towards the Catholic Clergy of Ireland, and the
innate loyalty of the Irish nation would manifest its de-
voted loyalty to the SOVEREIGN, whom they loved for
her virtues and for the affection which she had ever
manifested towards her Irish subjects.
Mr. LAW, in a very vehement speech, which was lis-
tened to with great impatience, opposed the motion.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE defended the course which had
been pursued by the Protestant Dissenters with regard
to this question, and felt bound, as an advocate of the
voluntary principle, to oppose the motion.
Lord J. RUSSELL would have been content to have
given a silent vote on this question, had it not been out of
respect to the numerous petitions which had been pre-
sented on this subject. Irish questions had always been
a source of weakness to this country, and, therefore, he
considered it of the utmost importance that every oppor-
tunity should be taken of settling them. He regretted
the intolerance and bigotry which had been displayed in
relation to this question ; but believing the measure pre-
posed by the Government to be for the good of the
nation, he felt bound to support it.
Sir R. INGLIS said that the measure of the Go-
vernment was against the policy of all those who
had endeavoured to make Protestantism the religion of
the United Kingdom, and as a conscientious Pro •
testant he felt bound to oppose it.
Sir R. PEEL, in a brilliant speech, replied at great
length to all the arguments which had been adduced
against the measure.
The House then divided, when there appeared for the
amendment, 176; against it, 323; majority for the second
reading, 147.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER then moved
that the House do resolve itself into a Com-
mittee on the Bill on Monday, which was op-
posed by Sir ROBERT H. INGLIS, Mr. SHAW, Mr.
PLUMPTRE, and Mr. DUNCOMBE, who divided the
House, when there appeared for the motion, 61; against
it, 25; majority in favoar of going into the Committee on
Monday, 36.
The House adjourned at half-past Three o'clock.
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The result of the division on the Maynooth grant,
which took place this morning, is only what might have
been expected. After declarations in favour of the
measure from so many representatives who usually
'oppose the Government, and taking into account the
influence of the Cabinet on the Conservative party, it
was calculated that the majority would not be less than
150, and the actual number falls short of that only by
three. Though we rejoice at the result chiefly for the
peace of Ireland, and the integrity of the empire, the
satisfaction is modified by the reflection that it resembles
the victory of one of the contending parties in a civil
war. A great contest has been carried on now
for nearly three weeks, in which the Liberals
have been fighting with each other, their opponents
being placed in the same predicament, and victory has
at last declared for those who vote against their poli-
tical interests, who prefer duty to any selfish considera-
tion, and who assist even an enemy in restoring peace
to a distracted country. The Government, whatever
some foolish writers may say, owe their safety entirely
to that party whom the firebrands of Toryism—nay,
even moderate Conservatives—denounced as haters of
the Church, as Destructives, as Radicals, and infidels,
and as men ready to sell themselves to any party at any
price for the sake of power and place. They have nobly
given the lie to these wicked calumnies, and saved their
enemies from absolute destruction. This is a
sacrifice which, as regards politics, is above
all price, but they have made still greater sacri-
fices—they have . offended several of their staunch
supporters, they have weakened their interest in many
large constituencies, and produced a coldness among
not a few of their ardent admirers, by refusing to join in
the cry against the Catholic religion. It would be dif-
ficult, nay, as far as our recollection serves, impossible
to point out in the history of this country so noble a