The Sun.
London, England, 1845-04-16 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVE KING, APRIL 16, 1845.

STEA.II COMMUNICATION WITH

LATEST PRICES OF SHARES
IN RAILWAYS, BANKS, ASSURANCE, AN D

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF LORDS, April 15.
The Loup CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Woo:
sack at Five o'clock.

FRANCE.

[We quote the following interesting account of the pro-
gress of Steam Navigation from the Morning Herald. We
wish that a vessel similar to the. Ondine, with a screw -pro-
peller, had been among the daring competitors.—ED. Sun.]
Great competition at present exists between the ports of
Dover and Folkestone as..to rapidity of communicatian with
the French coast.
The South-Eastern Railway Company having made Folke-
stone a principal station, and improved its harbour, several
tine iron steamers were built and regularly connected with
it; namely, the Princess Alice, the Princess Mary, the
Princess Maude, and the Queen of the Belgians, which last
vessel was launched only a few months ago. Each of these,
in the order stated, was an improvement upon the former
one, and was considered the fastest steamer in the world,
until at length the Dover people, determined not to be out-
done, induced the General Steam Navigation Company to
send down the Magician, also an iron steamer, to ply between
that port and Boulogne. The Magician has since proved her-
self equal in speed to the best of the Folkestone boats.
Another iron steamer has lately been launched, named the
Ondiue, to run on alternate days betwixt Dover and Bou-
logne, with the Magician ; and a very lively interest has been
created along both coasts as to whether the palm of speed
belonged to the Dover or the Folkestone boats.
On the 2d instant, the Ondine, in going from Dover to
Boulogne for the Indian mail, on account of the Morning
Herald, accomplished the run, thirty miles, in one hour and
fifty-one minutes, the quickest passage, we believe, ever
made. The inhabitants of Dover, Folkestone, and Boulogne
were on the qui vice, as it was known that a trial would take
place betwixt the Ondine and the Queen of the Belgians,
which was waiting at Boulogne for the Indian mail on ac-
count of the Times.
On that occasion the Queen of the Belgians performed the
distance in one hour and fifty-three minutes, beating the
Ondine by sixteen minutes; but the cause of this apparent
superiority was an accident to the Ondine's machinery, one
of the slides having given way. But as on the previous day
the Ondine had made the voyage in two minutes less tine—
namely, in one hour and fifty-one minutes, it was resolved
by the owners that as soon as her machinery was repaired,
another trial of speed should take place on the first oppor-
tunity.
Everything having been set to rights on board the Ondiue,
by the 13th instant, she proceeded on that day from Dover
to Boulogne, to try her qualities with the Princess Maude,
which vessel has hitherto had the reputation of being the
fastest boat on the station.
The following account of the interesting trial has been
transmitted to us by eye-witnesses.
(FROSI A CORRESPONDENT.)
"The Outline was put into the Roads this morning, and
went over to Boulogne to meet the Princess Maude, and met
her accordingly about half an hour after she had left Bou-
logne. The weather was thick at the time, the wind blow-
ing fresh ; she was, however, made out, the Ondine being to
the windward of her. The Ondine bore down and hoisted
her red flag of defiance. She took her station about a cable's
length behind the Maude. Some few minutes elspsed before
it could be told which of the vessels would prove the victor.
The Maude had her staysail and foresail set. The Ondine soon
set two sails also. In ten minutes the competitors were pad-
dle-box and paddle-box, and in twenty minutes the Ondine
was so far ahead that she actually put the Maude into her
wake. The Ondine proceeded on to Folkestone, and when
within about a cable's length of that harbour she hove to in
sight of all the Folkestone people, who had apparently as-
sembled to witness the issue. In eight or ten minutes the
Maude passed close to the Ondine's stern, and went into
the harbour. Knowing that she had to land her passengers
and return to Boulogne, the Ondine waited, standing off
and on, till she backed out ; and when she had got her
head right for Boulogne, and considerably ahead of the
Ondine, the latter once more started after her, when a most
interesting struggle took place. The Ondine, however,
was soon again paddle-box and paddle• box with her op-
ponent ; the sea was very rough, and, apparently, the
Maude at times shipped a great deal of water ; the On-
dine threw it off both sides of her paddle-boxes. When
sufficiently ahead of the Maude, so as to run no risk, the
Ondine crossd her bows and went round her ! thus demon-
strating, a second time, the great superiority in speed of
the Ondine over the Princess Maude. Both the City
of London and Magician, in crossing to and from Bou-
logne and Dover, saw the trial, and bore to each place the
news of the Ondine having gone twice round the Maude in
so short a distance. It is the general opinion that the Prin-
cess Maude is superior to the Queen of the Belgians ; and
nautical men, who witnessed the sight, declare that it was
worth a Queen's ransom to witness these two fleet coursers
of the deep flying through the waves—sometimes over, some-
times under—at the rate of 17 and 17i miles per hour ! !"
(FROM ANOTHER CORRESPONDENT.)
" I have only a few minutes to spare, but I employ them
in giving you an account of an interesting trial of the qualities
of the Ondine. Her engines having been put in good order,
she left this place (Dover) this morning, with the intention
of having a fair trial with the Princess Maude (the Queen
of the Belgians being laid up at Folkestone), and, proceeding
towards the French coast, the Ondine met the Maude
coming from Boulogne, and not far distant from that port.
On nearing her the Ondine put about and waited until the
Maude was in a line with her, starting with scrupulous
fairness. It was soon seen hat the Ondine was going
ahead ; and in a run of 1 hour and 21 minutes beat her
seven minutes ; this was with a brisk gale, and the wind on
the larboard quarter, two sails being set on board of each
vessel. It was known on board the Ondine that the Princess
Maude would return to Boulogne; so the Outline waited off
Folkestone, and again started fairly with her against the
same brisk gale and heavy sea; wind on the starboard bow;
but the Ondine being to windward of the Maude, the latter
had the advantage of shelter, to a certain extent, by being
in the former's lee; and for a time, in consequence, the
Ondine did not seem to have much superiority; but when
she had gained enough headway to leave the Maude com-
pletely exposed to the influences of the wind and sea, the
Ondine's advantage became nearly as apparent as before,
and in three-quarters of an hour from starting astern of her
opponent the Ondine crossed the Maude's bow and returned
to Dover; thus settling the question both of speed and sea•
going qualities When running head to wind I never saw
anything so animating, nor, to my mind, so strikingly full of
interest; the Princess Maude having been at times com-
pletely covered with broken water or spray, hissing, and, to
appearance, converted into clouds of steam or smoke as it
dashed against the funnel. The Ondine had her share of
spray, and some of the persons on board got completely wet
through ; yet, what wonder when the speed and the weather
are taken into account."
This splendid little vessel, the Ondine, was built and fitted
with machinery by Messrs. Miller, Ravenhill, and Co., of
Blackwell ; and her superiority has been fairly proved, as
our correspondent remarks, both as to speed and sea-going
qualities. And it must not be forgotten that the experiment
has been made with a vessel from the experienced hands of
Messrs. Ditetiburn and Mare, of Blackwell, who, no question,
avished upon her their utmost skill. But it remains to be
told that the engines of the Ondine are two fifties only,
while those of the Princess Mary are, at least, twenty horse
power more. The Princess Mary, the Princess Alice, and
the Queen of the Belgians, were all constructed by Messrs.
Ditchburn and Mare.
We have gone into the details of this contest, because the
public at large, as well as the inhabitants of Dover, Folke-
stone, and Boulogne, possess a deep interest in the wonderful
progress of steam navigation.

OTHER COMTANIES.% STOCK.

The Mutiny Bill and the Marine Mutiny Bill wen!
through Committee.

From the Official List,
PUBLISHED EVEICY TUESDAY AND FRIDAY EVENING.

MAYNOoTa

Lord CAMPBELL said that it was his painful duty
to present, a petition against the grant to Maynooth,
from the provost, magistrates, and inhabitants of
Cupar, in the county of Fife. As this was his native
place he hail hoped that they would have been more
enlightened there.

LONDON", TUE3D..4.Y, APRIL 15.
'rumor.. Vlll

Petitions were also presented against the grant, and in
favour of laws fur enforcing temperance, by the Earl of
Enniskillen and the Bishops of Down and Winchester.

BANK-NO FES.IN SCOTLAND.

The Earl of JERSEY moved fora return of the num-
ber of bank-notes in circulation in Scotland during the
ten years, from 1834 to 1844.

RAILW AYS.

Lord BROUGHA.llbeggedto call the attention of
their Lordships to the motion for an addition to the
standing orders in railways, of which he had given
notice yesterday. He thought that it was requisite to
bring this subject before their Lordships, in order to
show the extent of mischief which had been occa-
sioned by the immense mass of private legis-
lation on the subject of railways. It was necessary,
because such had been the extent of that legis-
lation, that it interfered not only with the enjoy-
ment, bat even with the possession of property, and
at last the speculation had come to what he must call a
gambling frenzy, not unprecedented certainly in the
experience of this country some twenty years ago, nor
unknown in the economical history of a neighbouring
nation. Perhaps it would be better to introduce this sub-
ject by presenting the petition of a certain Noble Lady,
Lady Cicely Fane, the daughter of the late Earl of
Westmoreland, who had come into the possession of a
family estate by inheritance. The petition was writ-
ten by herself, and not by a man of business,
and therefore he trusted their Lordships would
excuse whatever informality it might contain.
The petitioner went on to say that the agent of the
company called upon her on the 26th of January, and
showed her the plans and specifications, from which, he
said, no deviation could be made. She expressed
a great dislike to the vicinity of the railroad, and ex-
pressed a hope that the line would be removed to a
greater distance from her estate, but no promise was
given to her; and all the consolation she could get was,
that the company would 'remunerate her for the loss
when they got their Bill. He also held in his hand a petition
from a poorer person. It was the petition of John Clarkson,
nurseryman, of Yeovil, in Somerset, who stated that he had
no other means of living but by following that occupation. He
stated that for one acre of land which he held he paid 500/.,
and since he purchased it he had laid out considerable sums of
money in improving it. A railway was going to pass through
this land, and he was threatened by the company that if he
opposed them he would certainly not be so well treated as those
who supported it. These two petitioners, therefore, threw
themselves upon the protection of their Lordships, and he (Lord
Brougham) trusted that ample protection would be afforded
them. The subject of railways was no longer one of a local or
limited importance, but altogether of a public, general and
national character, but he neither blamed the present nor the
past Government for not having foreseen this result, because it
had arisen gradually. No Government could, therefore, be
blamed for not having foreseen the great national aspect rail-
ways would assume ; but now that the aspect was plain, it
was the bounden duty of Government and of Parliament to
take the railways under their own control, and treat them as
a national concern. They had been so treated in France, and
they ought, in his opinion, to be so treated here. He was no
enemy to the passing of a railway Bill, any more than he was
to the passing of any general Bill for constructing a canal or high
road, the most common Bill of the lot that interfered wi th
the rights of private property, but when they were legislating
by wholesale instead of passing one or two small Bills, he did
intreat their Lordships to reflect for one moment upon the risk
they run of doing most grievous injustice to the rights of pri-
vate individuals. The law of England would not allow any
land, no matter how small it was, to be taken without the pre..
vious sanction of the owner had been obtained ; nay, so jealous
was the law, that if a man put his hand across the fence of an-
other, he was in law a trespasser, and would be liable to an
action for damages. As a general principle for the guidance of
the Legislature, he (Lord Brougham) thought it would be
much better that the railway company should be
put to inconvenience, rather than the rights of
private property should be violated. It would be much better
to leave railway companies to make their bargains with the
owners and occupiers of land, than put the latter to the expense
or trouble of going before a jury or a magistrate to obtain their
rights. The companies were in the habit of forcing on their
Bills, lest they should lose the completion of them before the
end of the session; but he would rather that railways were de-
layed one, or even two years, than that they should be hurried
forward in this tyrannical manner to their completion. They
were told that if there was any danger to be appre-
hended, that there was a double guard thrown around
the interests of individuals in the proceedings of this
House, and especially by the scrutiny of the Com-
mittee of Standing Orders. But with respect to the
Committee of Standing Orders he would warn the House not
to depend too much upon them. He did not wish to speak
otherwise than with respect of that Committee, but when in
the consideration of railway Bills they were told that those
Bills had been referred to a Committee to ascertain whether
the standing orders had been complied with, he would warn
them not to think that that Committee was gifted with a per-
fection of apprehension—he would warn them not to think
that that Committee was gifted with an untiring industry, that
they were in the habit of exhibiting an extraordinary dili-
gence—he would warn them not to suppose that their dili-
gence was of that perfect and scrutinising character which
would enable them to make themselves acquainted with every
part, parcel, and portion of every measure brought before them
—he would warn them not to suppose that that Committee was
even superficially acquainted with every measure submitted to
their consideration—nay, he would warn them against sup-
posing that they knew anything at all about it. No ; those
gentlemen were too fully occupied to read even the text of the
measures submitted to them, let alone the consideration. They
contented themselves with consulting the margin of the Bill.
Now, the margin of the Bill was no part of it, and a railway
company or a railway agent had nothing to do but to put a clause
into the Bill which was omitted in the margin and
they might pass a grievous and onerous injustice, without any
one being aware of the injury until it came into operation.
This was no speculative philosophy, the fact had actually occurred.
a clause had been introduced into a Bill which had passed the
Committee of Standing Orders. This clause gave to every
person having land which contained coal, lime, gravel, or soil,
power to carry it across any person's land, by only paying for
the damage done and without giving a farthing for the good
will; and this, too, to no less an extent than five miles on each
side of the railway. Now, this was an enormous mischief, and
a mischief which ought not only to be remedied, but to be
prevented. There were two very great evils of which he com-
plained. One was the power given of deviating from the line
chalked out to the extent of a hundred yards on either side of
the line, that is a deviation of not less than two hundred yards.
Now, why should not the company be restrained to their line
itself? Why did they not come to that House so prepared with
their line, that there should be no deviation at all, and thus
prevent the grievous injury that might arise, as was the case
with this petitioner? For his own part, he would rather
restrict the companies to twenty yards, than to a hundred on
each side of the line, and then if any accident did occur, so
that they were obliged to trespass, let them go and make a fair
bargain for the purchase of the ground to be taken. Let them
go as they did into the market for any other property, and
let the seller have a word as to the price as well as the buyer.
Let the sale of the property be a voluntary act, and let the
owner not be left to the mercy of a jury. They all knew what
juries were, and how entirely railway companies had them at
their command. Another of the evils was that of the injury
done to property by a railway passing near it. If a railway did
not pass over the ground, but only near it, there was no com-
pensation whatever. There was a case which he knew of very
great hardship. He had gone with a friend to look
over a beautiful villa, which had, until the forma-
tion of, a railway near it, commanded a rent of from
3001. to 4001. a year, but which had not now been let far three
or four years ; but in consequence of the villa standing on the
verge of the property, though the house was entirely destroyed
by the contiguity of the railway, there was no compensation.
Another thing for which provision ought to be made was the
height of the works above the ground, for a house might
effectually be destroyed ; and he had therefore inserted in the
orders which he had devised, and which he begged to lay upon
the table, that on the introduction of all future Bills there
should be a return of all the houses within three hundred yards
of both sides of the railway. He was anxious to add these to
the other standing orders, and he should not regret if
they had the effect of throwing any impediment in
the way of this frenzy of speculation. He felt
it was his duty, as it was the duty of every one who had the
advantage of addressing that or the other House of Parlia-
men, and, through them, the public, that above all it was the
duty of that powerful and influential body who were connected
with the newspaper press of the country, to warn their fel-
low-citizens against this frenzy of speculation. How many
were there who, after saving a few hundreds or a few thousand
pounds by perhaps the industry of half a life, or by the restric-
tion of penurious habits, had lost their all by investing it in
those speculations, with the hope of deriving a larger interest
than from any other source. If they referred to 1837, or 1838,
and still more, if they went back ten years beyond that time,
they would find that 10, 15, or 20 per cent. was a rate of mo-
derate expectation; and if they attempted to caution any one
of those speculators against indulging the hope of such an in-
terest, they would have only a deaf ear turned to them, or be
derided with a smile of contempt. But that was the fact.
He would take only one set of railways, and those
were all what were called paying ones. In those
the original cost of the shares was 32,000,0001. ; but he
believed that by premiums the money which had really been
paid for them was 42,000,0001. But taking it at 32,000,0001.,
and what was the per centage realised upon them? Not 20, not
15, not 10, nor anything like it, but 51 per cent. was all the
interest the holders of the very best kind of railway property
had realised, notwithstanding all the risk they ran—less than
could be obtained by going to any respectable bill broker.
But if he divided this sum of 32,000,000/. into halves, he
found that on 8,000,0001., the interest realised was not 5 per
cent., and upon 6,500,000/. the interest was absolutely under
3 per cent. or less than could be obtained from the soundest
and best of all securities—the Three per Cent. Consoli-
dated Annuities. But he did not stop there. Take an-
other portion of 2,000,000/., and he found that upon that
amount, or nearly one-eighth of the whole, the interest was
under 2 per cent. per annum, and on part of this the whole
people obtained was only after the rate of 11. 14s. 6d. per cent.
per annum. This was all authentic information derived from
data furnished by the report of the Railway Committees to the
House of Commons. But even this might have been
borne with, if the property had retained its value ; but even that
was denied to the unfortunate holder of railway shares, for
he found that on twenty-five and a half millions there had been
a decided dead loss of fifty per cent on one-half of the whole
amount, so that he who might have secured 301. al,l. which
year without
risk, could hardly now obtain 12/, for every
he invested; and the property itself, besideall.:ionsideration of
premiums, would not sell fn. half of what it cost. He would
apologise for thus trespassing on their attention, but he felt it
his duty to warn their Lordships, and to warn the country
against this gambling frenzy, and with this feeling he begged
to lay the orders on the table.
The Marquis of BREADALBANE, in presenting a petition
from the Caledonian Railwayß
Company_ against the 26th clause
of the Railway Clauses Consolidation Bill, which gave a par-
ticular compensation to the
.trustees of railway trusts, took
occasion to deprecate the hostility of the Noble Lord against
all railway schemes.
Lord BROUGHAM said that he was not surprised at the
Noble Marquis's tenderness for railways, seeing that he him-
selfwas a Chairman of a Company.
Lord DALHOUSIE did not mean, in rising, now to go
into a subject of which his Noble Friend had given notice of a
motion. He thought it only necessary now to say that he
thought some of the statements of his Noble Friend were
overcharged. He would reserve what he had to say upon it
until the question of the Bill itself came before the House.
The Marquis of BREADALBANE moved that the petition
be priuted..Ordered.

PARKS AT MANCHESTER.
INTERVIEW WITH SIR ROBERT PEEL.
(From the Manchester Guardian.)
The deputation, appointed by the public parks, &c.,
committee to proceed to London, in order to have an
interview with the Premier, consisted of Alexander
Kay, Esq., mayor of Manchester, (the chairman of the
committee), Mr. Alderman Watkins, and Messrs. Mal
color Ross and Edward W. Watkin, the honorary se-
cretaries of the public parks, &c., committee. At the
appointed hour on Wednesday the deputation had an
interview with Sir Robert Peel, and were accompanied
by the following Members of Parliament :—William
Entwisle, Esq., Thomas Milner Gibson, Esq , Joseph
Brotherton, Esq., and Thomas Wyse, Esq. It is much
to be regretted that Lord Francis Egerton and Mr.
Mark Philips, M.P., were both prevented attending (as
they had expressed a desire and intention to be present)
by severe indisposition. The deputation having been
introduced to Sir Robert Peel by William Entwisle,
Esq., M.P. :
The MAYOR concisely recapitulaied the peculiar
claims of Manchester for the specified object, as detailed
in a memorial and statement forwarded to Sir Robert
Peel on the previous day, by the honorary secretaries,
of which the following are the heads :
The result of the subscription has been, that the fund
now amounts to 30,7461. 17s. 3d. contributed by 3,318
persons of all classes, in sums, varying from 6d. to
1,0001.; a larger amount perhaps than was ever before
raised by voluntary donations for local objects, in any
town or city in the kingdom. Of this sum, 26,0001. is
already paid into bankers' hands.
To make the undertaking efficient, it is absolutely ne-
cessary to have—
A park, promenade, and play-ground, on each of the
sides of the town.

To erect (where eligible buildings do not exist) rooms
for refreshment and shelter.

To provide seats and benches in abundance.
To construct fountains with a plentiful supply of pure
water.

And to lay out the grounds in the most attractive way
possible.
From the plots offered to the Committee, there have
been selected, as most desirable, land, &c., sufficient to
make five public places. The northern one (pink) con-
tains about 170,000 souls ; the southerly (blue) about
130,000. The population of the former consists very
greatly of factory operatives and others who especially
need facilities for open recreation ; that of the latter
comprises large numbers of the labouring with other
classes, but it is not so dense.

The conversational nature of the interview prevents a
detailed statement of what took place; but the result
was that Sir Robert Peel urged the smallness of the sum at
the disposal of Government for such purposes—namely,
8,000/., the residue of a grant of 10,0001. made in 1840, and
that he could not, " at present," ask Parliament for a
further grant, as reasons (with several other minor ones)
for recommending a grant of 3,0001. from the present
fund, on condition that a Government surveyor be sent
down to inspect its disposal, and that 30,000/. of the
sum subscribed be actually paid up.
The smallness of the proposed grant took the depu-
tation by surprise, and was strongly argued against ;
and the Mayor finally stated that the sum was so inade-
quate to the requirements of the district, and would,
he feared, be so unsatisfactory to the population of
which he was chief magistrate, that he did not feel
warranted without consulting those by whom the de-
putation was sent, in exposing Manchester to the
degradation of appearing to require so small a sum, and
begged that he might be allowed to write to Sir Robert
Peel in reference to his proposal.
Sir ROBERT PEEL expressed himself satisfied with
the course proposed to be taken ; and the deputation
broke up after an interesting discussion, which lasted
forty minutes.
[We understand that Mr. Entwisle, and all the other
members of the deputation, highly approved of the de-
claration of the Mayor ; and we have no doubt that a
similar opinion will pervade the whole community.]

FAST TRAVELLING.—As an instance of the extraor-
dinary facility of communication between this town and the
metropolis, we have authority for stating that yesterday
(Friday) a gentleman left London by the Great Western at
hai De\o-iui,lenporr.3t,t, stoiipai ten minutes at Exaec, and
reached by the Tally-ho, at five minutes past
seven,
_A.m. ; thus performing the entire distance in little
more than nine hours :—Davenport Independent.

I The Export Custom 3 Duties Bill then passed through Com-
mittee, was reported, and ordered to be read a third time on
Thursday.
The Glass Duties Bill also passed through Committee, was
reported, and ordered to be read a third time on Thursday.
The report upon the Lands Clauses Consolidation Bill was
then brought up.
On the question of the report being received,
Lord DALHOUSIE moved amendments on the clauses re-
lating to arbitrators, which were agreed to without discussion.
The report was then received.
The report upon the Lands Clauses Consolidation ( Scotland)
Bill was re-committed.

The remaining clauses were agreed to, and the House re-
sumed.

The CHAIRMAN reported progress, ani the report was or-
dered t *be brought up on Thursday.
Their Lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, April 15.
The SPEAKER took the Chair a few minutes before
Four o'clock.
Mr. BARRY BALDWIN moved that the order made
for the second reading of the Totnes Markets and
Waterworks Bill be read ; that the said order be dis-
charged ' • that the Bill be withdrawn ; and that leave be
given to bring in a Bill for improving the markets in the
borough and town of Totnes, in the county of Devon,
and for better supplying the borough with water.—
Agreed to. _ _ .

Mr. KEMBLE moved that the order made for read-
ing a second time the Bermondsey Improvement Bill be
read and discharged ; that the Bill be withdrawn ; that
the report in respect of the petition for the Ber•
mondsey Improvement Bill which, upon the 10th
day of April, was made in the Select' Com-
mittee on Petitions for Private Bills be read ; that
leave be given to bring in a Bill for more effectually
paving, cleansing, lighting, and otherwise improving the
parish of St. Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey, in the
county of Surrey ; and that Mr. Kemble and Mr. Au-
trobus do prepare it and bring it in.—Agreed to.
Mr. TUFNELL moved that the order made for the
second reading of the Westminster Improvement Bill be
read ; that the said order be discharged ; that the Bill
he withdrawn ; and that leave be given to bring in a
Bill for improving parts of the city of Westminster.
HEMEL HEMPSTEAD SMALL TENEMENTS

BILL.
On the motion that the Hemel Hempstead Small 're
nements Bill be read a second time.

Mr. W. COWPER moved, as an amendment, that the
Bill be read that day six months.
Lord GRIMSTONE supported the amendment.
After a few words from Mr. HAWES,

Mr. BRIGHT said that nineteen out of twenty per-
sons, in the parish of Hemel Hempstead, were opposed
to this Bill. No consultation of the parishioners had
taken place relative to it ; and one objection, that
,seemed to him (Mr. Bright) most conclusive, was this
—that the non-resident proprietors were obliged to pay
the rates, while the occupiers were exempted. A great
evil resulting from this was, that the occupiers being
exempted from the paying of the rates, felt no interest
in the affairs of the parish. If this Bill were to pass it
would seriously injure a majority of the proprietors
there. He should therefore vote against the second
reading.

The House then divided, when there appeared—
For the second reading 69
Against it
Majority in favour of it —3o
The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to
be committed.

Mr. Alderman HUMPITERY presented a petition
from the London and Brighton Railway Company,
praying for leave to bring in a Bill.
The Manchester, Sheffield, and Midland Junction
Railway Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be
committed.