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London, England, 1845-05-30 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. •
HOUSE OF CO 11101`476. .I to "9.
The SI'EA XER took the Chair shortly before Four o'Aock. -
The Wil;s, Sernerset, and Weymouth Railway 13111 WAS react
a third time and p_.ssed.
The Exeter and Crediton Railway Bill was also read a third
time and passed.
Lord ASHLEY a,)pernred at. the Bar, and reported. a 3 (Thai' -
roan of the Group FF, that the Committee had met that mart,.
tog and had waited for one hour for the attendance of Captain
Bernal Osborne, but he did not make his appearance.
Captain B. OSBORNE stated that he had had a fall, whkh
had so much injured him that be could not attend the Conv-
mittee. He was anxious to get rid of his attendance on the
Committee.
After some observations from Lord G. SONIERSET, upon
the motion of Mr. LABOUCHERE, the Hon. and Gallant
Member was excused from further attendance on ihe Com-
mittee.

THE TEN HOURS BILL.
Dr. BOWRING presented a petition, numerously sipped,
from Bolton, in favour of the Ten Hours Bill.
MANUFACTURING DISTRESS.
Mr. COBDEN presented a petition from the hat manufac•
Curers of Lancashire, complaining of distress and prafing fur
inquiry.

PRIVILE'•E.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL brought up the report of the
Committee appointed to inquire into the case of the action of
Howard v. Gossett. The report stated that on Tuesday last
judgment was obtained against Sir William Gossett, and a ver-
dict of 2004 returned, execution upon which would be levied
on tha 2cl of Jun-. The Committee recommended that a writ
of error should be brought on the judgment in the
Gmrt of Queen's Bench. As the execution would not preju-
dice the proceedings in the writ of error, the Committee o'd
not feel it expedient to prevent the levy.
The SOLICITGR-GENE RA L then moved that the report
be printed.
Mr. HUME thought that some day ought to be mentioned
upon which to take this report into consideration. He thought
that the privileges of that House were not ptoperly protected.
He thought the time had now corns when they ought to ascer-
tain whether they had any privileges or not.
The SOLICITOR- GENE RA L t height tiv,t it would be better
to wait, so as to give further time for consideration. They might,
it was true, take the other course, and he was quite willing to
follow any suggestion the. House might make, but he thought
that these was some further information which might he laid
before the House. By thus doing, the House would effectually
interfere, without being committed to any course.
Mr. HUME wished to ask whether there were any means
of stopping the execution?
Mr. WATSON said that unless they put in bail in error the
execution must proceed.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that execution could
be enforced on the 42d of June. He would lay a copy of all
the papers before the House to-morrow, and the report might
then be taken into consideration.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said they had got a copy of the
judgment, but they wanted a copy of the warrant and of the
record to enable them to proceed ri'htly.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said, the record, tin ugh
not supplied, might be had to-morrow, though, strictly speak-
ing, it could not be made up until all the proceedings had been
gone through in the case.
Sir 'F. WILDE said that it was necessary to have a copy of
the warrant and of the record before the House, before they
took any step with any justifiable hope of vindicating their
privileges.
Mr. COLLETT asked whether this was a motion of suffi-
cient importance to take precedence of the other orders of
the day.
'rhe SPEAKER—Of course.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said the copy of the record
was being printed, and he would lay copies of it on the table
in the morning, and he moved that the report be taken into
consideration to-morrow.
This was agreed to, and the subject dropped.
Sir W. H. BARRON presented a petition from Waterford,
against the Irish Poor-law Bill.
Mr. S. CRAWFORD presented a petition from the Com-
plete Suffrage Society, for an extension of the franchise.
THE CHANNEL ISLANDS.
Mr. RQEBUCK gave notice that, on that day fortnight, he
would make a specific motion as to the mode in which justice
was administered in the Channel Islands.

NEW ZEALAND.
Mr. M. MILNES gave notice that on the motion of Mr.
C. Buller respecting the New Zealand Company, be would
move that it be an instruction to the Committee to inquire
into the sufferings of the emigrants under the Company.
The Hon. Member further gave notice that, on the 3d of June,
he should call the attention of the House to the mischievous
effects of public executions.
CASE OF LIEUT. COLLINS.
Mr. BICKHAM ESCOTT rose to put to the Hon. Mem-
ber for Beverley the question of which he had given notice.
He wished to ask him whether the Court of Directors of the
East India Company had considered the case of Lieut. Ceiling,
late of the East India Company's service, who had been tried
by a court-martial and dismissed, whether he was enabled to
give any opinion as to the legality or illegality of the court-
martial by which he had been dismissed. Secendly, supposing
that, in their opinion, the court-martial which
had dismissed Lieutenant Collins was illegal, whe-
ther he did not think that some substantial
compensation should be made by the Government to Lieut. '
Collins for his illegal dismissal by a sentence which the Court
of Directors of the East India Company themselves considered
as illegal; and he would ask, in addition, if the Hon. Member
was not aware that in the opinion of many learned persons that
Court was an ;Legal Court?
Mr. HOGG thought he was scarcely called upon to answer
these questions.—( Hear, hear.) If it were the pleasure of '
the House that be should go into the ease of Lieutenant
Collins, he would do so, and he would state the charge
against that gentleman, not in his o‘n words, but in
the words of the finding of the court, with the observa-
tions of the Commander-in-Chief thereon.—(Hear, hear.)
He would state this in the words of the finding, without add-
ing a word of observation from himself, if the House thought
it was expedient that he should do so ; but he gathered that
the House was of opinion tint it would he better that he
should abstain.—( Hear, hear.) With regard to the legality
of these proceedings, he was surprised that the Honourable
Gentleman should ask whether or not the Court of
Directors had considered the legality of the court-martial.
They had no right 'to take upon themselves to judge of its
legality. The whole authority for judging of eourt-ma.rtials
was vested by the warrant of the Crown in the Commander-in-
Chief. He was the sole authority on the subject, and from his
decision there was no appeal. The Court of Directors had no
power to alter, correct, or affirnithe decision of any emu t-tnattial.
The Mutiny Act described flit, course of proceeding if there
was reason to cemplain. The courts of Westminster were
open ,to those who in this country felt themselves aggrieved,
so were the courts in India, and the courts in the

various presidencies. The Court of Direet,irs had
no power to pass any opinion on the finding of a
court-martial. They had the power. by the 51st of Geo. 111.,
to restore into the service any officer who had been sus-
pended or arnissed by the sentence of a court •martial; but
the power of the statute did not come into operation till the
sentence of the court-martial had been come to. The
Court of Directors had considered the case of Lieu-
tenant Collins, and believed it one of hardship. If he
had voluntarily retired from the service, he would have had a
pension of 731. a year, and although he had forfeited his right
to that allowance, the Court voluntarily agreed to give him the
sum of 701. a-year, 31. less then the pension he would other-
wise have received. To show the House how careful the Di-
rectors had been in exercising the power vested in them,
of restoring officers to the service who had been
dismissed by a court-martial during twenty-seven years
they had only been called uponto exercise it on eight occasion,s
and every one of these cases were referred to them by toed
authorities, or by 'he Commander-in• Chief himself. It Would
therefore appear that the Court of Directors had inquired into
the case with a desire to do everything for this unfortunate
man, consistent with their duty to that service in which
he had been an officer. He repeated that he was not the
organ of the Court of Directors. He slid not think much dis-
cretion was shown in forcing the subject before the House.
Mr. ESCOTT said the Hon. Gentleman bad not answered
either of the questions which he had put to him. Ile should
refer the matter to the Board of Control, who would, no doubt,
give their attention to it.
Mr. HOGG was understood to say that the Board of Control
had no jurisdiction in the matter.
ACADEMICAL EDUCATION BILL.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL seeing the Right Hun. Baronet
the Secretary of State for the Home Department in his place,
wished to ask him if it was his intention to move the order of
the day to-morrow for the second reading of the Irish Acade-
mical Education Bill.
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RIVILEGE.
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The SOLICITOR-GENERAL replied that the Hon.
Member was anticipating the discussion of to-morrow, and it
was quite impossible for him to answer the question of the
Hon. Member.
Mr. HUME moved for certain returns rrelating to the Mint,
and more particularly relating to the Assayer's Department.—
Agreed to.
In answer to a question from Mr. MUNTZ,
Sir R. PEEL stated that negotiations were still pending on
1 the subject of the treaty with the island of Sicily, and as soon
as they assumed a more definite and matured shape he should
be prepared to lay them on the table of the House.
Lord PALMERSTON wished to ask the Right Honourable
Baronet, if he were prepared to bring in a measure to supply
the defect in the Act of 1827, relative to the enforcement of the
piracy law as respected the Brazilian coast.
Sir ROBERT PEEL assured the House that the subject
was still under the anxious consideration of the Government,
and would at an early period be brought forward.
Sir W. SOMF,RVILLE inquired when the Right Hon.
Baronet intended to proceed with the Irish Banking gill? -
Sir R. PEEL feared he could not name any specific day, as
it would materially depend on the progress made in the dis-
cussion of the Irish Ac
STademical Education Bill.
NIGHT'S DEBATE.
On the SPEAKER calling upon Mr. Henry Berkeley,
Lord ASHLEY rose, and said that he wished to trespass
on the House for a few moments only, on a matter personal to
himself. He had understood that his absenafeoe.rrefrm,o.emovtmeelras„ditimsnaii,ignehttitio'ssi,
debate had been very severely commented up.. He had
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and where he had been del ained for s,veral hours, and Ye did
not think that at that late period of the evening it was neces-
sary to attend that House to take part in a division upon a mo-
tion, which whether it were successful or not, could lead to no
practical result.
IMPRISONMENT FOR DEBT.
Mr. WAKLEY presented a petition from Finsbury, stating
that the Bill of last session had abolished imprisonment for
debt, except in cases of fraud and debts above 201., and pray-
ing that as both Houses of Parliament had approved of the princi-
ple under that amount, they would adopt one also on all debts
above it.
Mr. HENRY BERKELEY then rose to move for a Select
Committee to inquire into the effects produced upon debtors and
creditors by the operations of the Insolvency Act of last ses-
sion, and in doing so, said that notwithstanding all the efforts
which had been made to induce the Right Hon. Baronet at
the head of the Government to inquire into the effect of the
Act of last session, by the perseverance of the Hon. Mernber
for Bath, he still continued to fondle this bantling of Lord
Brougham's, long after its father had thrown it aside. The
country suffered from this hasty and crude legislation. There
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