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RAILWAY COM m vETE ES.
(YESTERDAY.)

HOUSE OF LORDS.

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The Committee to whom this line was referred met to-day at
eleven o'c!ock, in No. 2, Committee-room. Present s—Lord
Camoys. in the chair ; the Marquis of Londonderry, the Duke of
Leeds, Lord Hay, and the Earl of Uxbridge.
Mr. Sergeant Bellasis appeared a Counsel for the promoters of
the Bill, and Messrs. Wilkinson and and Lowndes on behalf of
the opposition, Sir Richard Brooke and the Trent and Mere y
Navigation Company.

Mr. Sergeant BELLALIS opened the case and went into very mi-
nute detat.s to prove the great advantages which would be conferred
on the di,trict by the formation of this line. As we have already
reported the ease so fully before the House of Commons Com-
inltee, we need merely say that it was a repetition of the reasons
which were then adduced to prove its utility to the public.

Mr. Ripon, agent of the Bridgewater Navigation Company at
Runcorn, was examined by Mr. Serge int Ballads on the traffic. He
deposeil,that 787,704 tons was the whole traffic at present on the
line, consisting of coals, salt, and crates of earthenware.
Mr. AfxiNsom cross-examined this witness at considerable length.

THE LONDON AND SOUTH—WESTERN ME.
Tr..OPOVES F-217.1rEDISION BILL.
IMPORTANT 1)ECISION.
The Committee met at eleven o'clock, the Earl of Shaftesbury in
the chair.
Mr MILL supported the Bill.
Mr. Samuels, carrying on business near Vauxhall bridge, opposed
the Bill, on account of the injury which would Le caused to his
property by it.
An arrangement, however, was entered into between the pet!_
tloner and promoters, by which the injury complained of might be
obviated.
The petition of Messrs. Pybus and Sheen was withdrawn, a pri-
vate arrangement having been effected between the parties.
The preamble was then declared to have been proved, and the
clauses having been agreed to, the Committee broke up.

NWORCESTER, AND WOLVEra-
/CAMPTON RAILWAY.
The Committee met to-day at eleven o'clock, Lord Auckland
In the chair, when the examination of witnesses on behalf of the
opposition was resumed.
Mr. George Bidder, civil engineer, was first called. He de-
posed to the general correctness of Mr. Brunei's evidence, given on
Saturday. He was also examined on the toll clauses, which, at
the ratts they proposed, would operate injuriously on the mineral
traffic of North Staffordshire. He had also examined the plans
and sections of Mr. Brunel, and had discovered an error in the
level of the line proposed from Oxford to Wolverhampton. The
error he referred to in the level, aas a deviation in the datum line
of right feet, from the plan lodged in the Parliamentary.office. The
witness was proceeding to explain the error, wt en
Mr. TALBOT interfered. He objected to the going into the point
mooted by the witness, and maintained that, even if such an error
did exist, the Standing Orders Committee was the place where it
should have been brought forward.
Mr. Sergesnt WRANGBAM contended that the Committee ought
to entertain the objecti,n, and cited the Act 8 Victoria sec. 11,
show irg that no line was allowed to deviate more than five feet
from the datum line in the deposited plans and sections. Even if
the Committee passed the Bill, the Company could not construct the
line with such an error.
The Committee, after a short consultation, decided that the
Standing Orders Committee was the proper tribunal for hearing
such an objection, and refused to hear further evidence on the
point. _ _

Mr. Nichol Bidder, civil engineer, was briefly examined, in cor.
roboratioa of Mr. Stephenson's evidence, and Mr. Main, on the po-
pulation and traffic on the two lines, when Mr. Hope intimated
that this clo'ed the case for the London and Birmingham Company. yy
• Mr. HILL, Q.C., then rose to address the Committee against the
Bill, on b half of Lord Ward. The Learned Gentleman then
proceeded at seine length to describe the inconvenience which the
line of the Great Western would impose on Lord Ward's property.
the line in question cut his estate in two, and did great injury to
the park, while• at the same time it gave the most imperfect
accommodation to his mineral produce. The main line was
generally either above or below the level of tl•e branch lines con-
netted with the pits and works, and between Dudley and Stour.
bridge it , took a much inferior route for the accommo•
dation of mineral traffic to the Tring line. He then
addressed himself to the subject of tolls, contending that the Great
Western had broken faith with the iron.masters and mineral-
! owners of South Staffordshire, in altering their traffic clauses
as they bad done. Having amplified on these points, the Learned
Gentleman concluded by cal ing witnesses in support of his case.
Mr. Smith, Lord Ward's mineral agent, already examined on
behalf of the Tring line, was called to speak to the damage that
would be done to Lord Ward's property, and as to the effect the
difference of level between the main and branch lines, the tolls,
transhipment, Sic., would have on the mineral traffic.
The Committee then adjourned.

THE r..SGOW JUNCTION RAILWAY.
Tl.e Committee re-assembled at eleven this morning, when
Mr. Brunel, the engineer, was called, and stated he had ex.
amined the plan of the proposed junction line, and wss satisfied of
its practicability, and of the great service it would render to the
interests of the mercantile community of Glasgow,
With this evidence the case for the promoters was concluded.
" •

Mr. Hort; then addressed their Lordships, in opposition, on
behalf of the trustees of the Clyde Navigation. He objected
to the Bill on the ground that the contemplated railway would
only accommodate one eighth part of the traffic of Glasgow,
and seven-eighths would be entirely neglected. The object
of the promoters was not so much to serve the interests
of Glasgow as to afford facilities for the conveyance of traffic
oming along the main line of the Edinburgh and Glasgow Rail-
way. The laying down of rails on the quays would cause great
obstruction to the traffic of the harbour, and the mercantile bodies
of Glasgow were entirely opposed to the project. Under these
circumstances, he trusted the Committee would not allow the Bill

to pass.
Mr. Russell, superintendent of the harbour at Glasgow was then
examined. He said he had consldcred the proposal of carrying
the railway on a level with the quays, and thought that it would
be elangerous to passengers coming from and going to the vessels in
the harbour, and would also occasion obstruction to the traffic.
Every person with whom he had conversed on the subject enter-
tained a similar opinion.
Captain Johnston, sailing harbour-master, corroborated the evi-
fence of the previous witness.
Mr. Viitter, merchant and shipping agent in Glasgow, was next
!xamined. He said th .t the harbour was tot sufficient for tfe ac.
:aariniodation of the trade. He had sometimes counted no less than
:en vessels in it, six of which would be loading or unloading to-
gether. He thought that having railway carriages on the quays
would occasion considerable danger to the passengers, and inconve-
I .
1 Mence to the traffic. Ha was sure that to send his goods by the
railway would cost him more money than at present. He did not
consider the line would afford the least accommodation for the trade