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London, England, 1844-06-21 00:00:00

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TOE- L-ONDOgeIeRrDAY MORNING lUNE

in (Ire se ifs iti re- than ti ;bo'llicabr 4.i f 4hrti'sr• iitr dßkitish..t
colony, he could. not IY,t,,,LAy c.,,,0e,-::1,, it tpls4ated! to
bim_that BritiSh.eorisii,,; ivs-..`,1`6 not •vi.,,,t;-1,1:1y, tiii*:eittii4
in 'a situation ; which TV,-,,tti'l gi‘'o ',l, onl' ,a. Tea:S-614W:
• -..--,. , .
ground: of 'complaint. , i ', : -1,,,..c ,•. ~ .1-- , n ,ilL.,;tapee,,
tak;Eint *Om a si Lollar .regui,atioi.i i ; 7 ; respc‘Ft to ...*oire'e,l
and in:that:case uo:clifficulty what v - r 1-,:il'ains€ll: ' "'i
Dr. BOWRING-!said all " the ~..r,;OF,i, ,Its or the.:Right {
Iton,lGetitlenien 'oppcssile :proceeded ).,t the assumpkoil, I
that they ' Would -everiater/f :meet with co-operation,-
whereaS 'the very opposite appeared to him the most :ref',
satiable Ogieetation.---(Hear, .likar) •These ;d6ctunents'.
would-be made a security'for, inSteaxl of aga,inst fraud.---
(Hearo , live'ry,thing which offered nu- inipedinient to
the chettik,purebaSe of the article desired would be evaded
in every .possible manner. The ' dishonest Merchant.
Would availliiinselfof these documents to assist him in'
defeatinbcrthe agent of/the:Government.: It was impossil.
tile that the consuls ' should be cognizant of all the faco
Which. would be' neee•Aaary to:enable-them. properly, to,
perforin the duty imposed upon them. . . .
Lord SANDON was' :net Willingto throW over these
..
certificates is absolutely without ialue. . • . - • • .T
Mr.. IWME objected to the certificates. on the'greund
that:it would place the consuls in an : awkward VoSition.
' . Mr. LA:BO-WHERE- thought• the whole system of
certificates had moat ..iinproperly been adopted. With
respeetto the general -measure:before the House, he"be-
!levant would haie the effect of encouraging slivery ra-
ther thin be the means of Suppressing it.
Mr., GLAlYOONE:defended the'system. . , ' - '
I -Dr. BOWRING inquired What was to "be done at those l;
.ports having 13Q t(SIMILS .. - - , .. 1
Mr. STONE' apprehended that no' port from
Which sugar was likely to 'come would be 'without a
tensnl. In Java there would be no consul, in consequen '
• of the arrangements of the Dutch Government, but
proper officer -would be placed there to Certify. cargoes
and be(Mr. Gladstone) proposed to alter the sth china
'to' proVide'fOr•this poWer.. :- • ,
Mr. • A. "'CHAPMAN • suggested 'the propriety ,o
‘-doirigaivaY with' certificates Is the ease .cif:sugar cocain
. front the east of t he, Qape of 'Good Ilooe,,- as stave-labou
produce was not, likely to conte.tsrtim that. quarter. -
Mr.n-roRNELY sugge'Sted that slyzar in bond on
the 10.1-of November next shout& be admitted ',without
certifieate.' : • •• • - . • , : . .. " , - • .-
Mr. GLADSTONE, conceded that there was -a con,l
,
siderable quantity of sugar in this Country-which was the
:produce of Java and Manilla, and explained, that the Bill -
was nht to except stocks in 'bona; Or that might be "placed
in bond on the 'l6th of November next: iFor these sugars
a' certificate of origin would be required. - • . . . . l
Lord PALMERSTON then 'Said he should'" take. this •
sense of. thollouse on this 'question' of - the certificates,
-and the CoMmittee divided. The numbers 'were— .
• :. For the clause _. :11- -- .
~,
- • Against.it •6O •
, , Majority for. theclauss - 4• . 454
The 'clause was then ordered to,stand part of the Bill'
Clauses 5 -and 6 were agreed to without'discusaion.
On clause 7 being prOpesed, ' . ,". ' . --.- ~ i •
- Mr. BARING-wished the Government • to give. WO •
.exPlanatiOn as: 'to the • construction they, put' Upon the:,
'treaties 'between this country and-Denmark as to the ad-
-mission of the sugars. Of that country.'. ' Thetreatiei of -
1'661 ; and 1670 were still . in forde, and the words. by
which the admission was claimed secured to Denmark
'th same terms :as : those. granted to. ".the Hollander."
;711hiS was the-eldiform; which. he contended was equiva-
lent ta.ithemdderri phrase Of • the :".. footing of .the rtioSt
favoured nations."' He could" not- understand' how the
Government could put- a .eonstruction on the treaties
that shOuld exclude • tliCistiffir'cof ~I, ais countri. -
Now-:with .regard • to Arnericannd Sweden, did. they tipt
'propose- to. admit sugar, whether the produce of free
,labour or not,'-at a lower rate of duty, and hoW was, .
possible to reconcile. these • privileges with. existing treit-e'
ties l- He did not stand.urethere.as_the advocate of the'
Danish treaties ; . but he did think that there were cir-,
'euntstances•cohnected-'with Deninark, at least as far as-
slavery was concerned, whichOitider such a.measure ItS.
.that.: before , the'lfritiSe; should entitle it to peculiar,
,favour.. Denmark. was' the country that first abolished,:
.the slave trade. And,..further, it gave every facility fo•
the - right ...of , search which. could. possibly - be" de-
manded—facilities, whieh America and *Prance 'would
not 'gi've.' The - ..Right Hon. Baronet at , 'the,:
head ' of the Government', stated, a few nights ago,
' that this dountrydeelined to. enter into commercial ne- •
'kotiationSiiith Brazil, because that country was not wil- ;
ling to take . measures 'for the . ultimate abolition !of-,
slivery. Denmark had done•without compulsion, with-,
out hope Of gain, and ' Voluntarily, . what- was made the
sine qua non with' Brazil, 'and yet Denmark was to Ilia.
excluded from the advantages•of the Bill: The wokds
of the treaty were strong, and,the arrangementsbindiag,
`and` there was no reason whatever why the 'sugar camilug
Troin'Denmerk, the produce of her colonies, should dot
'b entitled to at least•the same advantagei as other fo-
the force of the, argil-
,
re.iiir,t sGngtaArs.
Ds •Ito-
Ni- •
admitted
menta of the Bier ROM: Gentleman. -Denmark certaialy
had peculiar claims on the • favourable consideration 'id'
this,countrY for her exertions in endeavouring to abol sh.
theslive.trade,'but with regard; to the dry luestion of •
right, though he would not speak with ' the lugheSt - 40„
gree -of confidence, yet he believed that the -treaty 1 of
1824 was understood by both Governments as that upon
Which artarigements :such as those involVedjn' the *ill
before the House:silo-did he guided..
' •
`Mr. BARING.:-But was that a commercial treaty ?
' ' Ifr.'qLADSTONE 'admitted it was only a treaty Of.
navigationf- but'yet he ltad understood from the. Dantahc
Minister; that, 'by that treaty; the mutual coneessidnl of:
privileged was:regulated.- ' . • . - -• . : . _, • •
i Lord PALMERSTON apprehend:A that theineid ity.:
tel observations of, the -Danish Minister Wooltrnet be
*binding ,on either Government, nor could-1114r be,COntii-'
dered. bythelliMse as satisfactory grounds for legislating
in this matter. lle-was of., opinion that the treat of
1824, so far from invalidating former treaties, left their,.
provisions as blediiik as ever. Many. of the 'regulations.
ofthe treaty Of 1824 hadno'yeferenee whatever to.provi-
Siotas in former treaties. -
MrX.'WOOD. contended that the treaties with Den-.
mar*. stood 49,0, the *same. focting as those with other
countries. • . . ' ' - . ,
• I
The' CHANCELLOR of . the EXCHEQUVR said
that- the construction put upotilLe Danish treaties was,
that Danes" were not -to be •subjected -to the ,
same duties.
as those imposed •upOnliollanders. : .
. .. ... •
- ..After' a few words from Mr.. SHELL,. the clause was
agreed to. - ' - : .' - . - I
The other clausei Were then agreed •to. without ilia,.
cuision.: ' - • - : : : ' . ' .: • , ..
Upon the reading of the preamble: of the Bill, : i
Mr. T. DI.ISCOMITSt said he should move that the
words'.." freely and Voluntarily" be omitted.--(Cheers
and laughter.) . It : was not his. intention to supply;
other-. words, although perhaps_ it would not be
very difficult for • him to A° so.—(Laughter.) . The
House on Friday night came to &resolution, that An!in:l-,
portant Change shouldbe made in. the provisions of; the
Bill. ThatresOlution -was carried by a majority ;of
twenty, but on Monday night it 'was reversed by a ma,
of . . Oventy-tw0..,•-• (Lend '' cheers.). :c_ 9n - that

nigit(th at.'it might- he'riecessery, after, the i Otik.of :1,0-yern'her-riext,
yern'her-riext, when the Brazilian treaty would expire, to
take the Whole, subject of the sugar duties into Onside-
ratioo ; but in the present
.state ,of slavery existing in
Cuba ana .her :Majesty's .Govertinient did -not
think It was advisable, to encourage the sugar of (hose
countries:. .:: He would not pledge hitiiself that the' Bill'
•
was- to bepermanent. . , , '
Lord 110 WICK &might the . Right. Hon.- Baronet'
Was wise in' not pledging himself that ,the. Bill should' be'
permanent= (Laughter)--for he thought it • was still
Very, doubtful that it would'not now miscarry.—(Cheers.)
The:Right lion. Gentleman opßosite- had said that the
Governmeetyossessed information respecting the state'
Of servitude nn- d'aVa,' from which they.were able to say
that the sugar of ,Tara;
island was' not the- produce of
slave labour. Why was that inforMation Withheld:from
the House ?—(Cheers.) • •
Mr.-Gunk-OKx and Mr: P. M. SrEw,inT explained.
'Mi. HUME wished the Right lion. Gentleman to de-
fine
what free-labour sugarivas, and whether any ceun-
!try in, which slavery did not exist 'was entitled to send
;sugar to our markets?—(Mr. Hume then sat down, wait-
ing for an answer, but nobody rising to' give any)i• •- •
-The,Hori. MEMBER again rose, and said that it was really.,
shameful that so iMportant a clanae- as this Should be
bungled and slurred over in such a manner. -
-- There was still a pause. '
Mr. SHEIL rose, and said he thought the Right Hon.
Gentleman, the President of the Board, Of Trade ought
to answer the query of his Hon. Friend. It ,certainly
was important kir the Committee to,know whether or no
slavery did exist in Cochin-China.
Mr. GIIADSTONE said that the Government were
not irr possession of sufficient information on the sub-
ject
to say.,whether .the sugar inCoChiri-China 'was not
raised by slave laboir.
Mr. SHEIL said the answer of the Right Hon. Gen-,
tleman showed how necessary it wai.that proper inquiry
should be made before the House proceeded to give Such
large• discretionary powers to the Board of Trade: It
was quite plain that GoVernment, was not in possession
of sufficient information to enable:the-House to-come to
coneluaion of so much iniportance as that to which they
Were now asked toarrive at.' The proposition sought to
be carried was really one of the cardinal points of the
Bill-
After a- few words,from Ur. HUME, the motion was
withdrawn, the -Mon.. Member giving notice that he
would renew his motion on the subject when the ',report
'was brought-up.
On clause '4 being proposed,
LABOUCHERE said the question of certifi+
cates involved in this clause was One of the greatest •ini
portance. It was besides perfectly novel in, legislature.
.What guarantee had they 'that the certificates of origin
would be, faithful and correct.? They Were about to
admit Chinese sugar, and to eiclude the' sugar• of
,But ,it was very.well known that large,
quantities of sugar were exported from Cochin-China •
into China. 'The Cochin-China- sugar and the Chinese
sugar would lay in the same warehouse—then where was
the guaranteethatCochin• Chinese sugar Would not be ex-
ported from China into thiS country?' In the same way there
,was a great deal of sugar imported-from Cuba into the
'United States, and the only guarantee they had that it
would not come into this country, through America was
those certifiCates of origin. It was very easy to. obtain:
foreign'affidavita. -,As 'to' the reliance on the British •
Consul; he must say that, along 'with' thinking it ineffi--
'Clout, he the:ight it would be very degrading to that'.
effiCer to e'obliged to-look after every cargo of sugar
that left: the port at which he was -stationed. The sys-
tem Of affidavits introduced did not gife much security
to the public, for every one- knew how little custom-
hoUSe oaths were' valued; or, thought
.of; in fact one of
his main objeCtions to 'the Bill • was, that it ;tended to-
weaken and undermine commercial-veracity and com-
mercial fidelity. On the whole,. he did
_pot think 'that
" the 'shadow of a shade" of an advantage which this
Bill held' out, •and which would vanish the moment a•
practical effect was sought to be given, was in. any way
sufficient to counterbalance the disadvantages resulting
'from Vie hostility to us fiom -foreign•-powerawhich the
Bill would inevitably create. - •: .
HAMPDEN. said that-he believed _.there was an.
ambiguity in the Bill, which, as he understood, from
some of his friends, would exclude the necessity of ger,
tificates of origin from the Americans. He' wished, to
call the attention of the Government. to the subject. '
Mr. GLADSTONWsaid he quite agreed 'with his
Right' Hon. Friend emirate (Mr. ,Labetichere)ln' his •
assertion that the question of the certificates was a very
important one ; but he wholly differed from him ,as to
the amount of difficulty which he apprehended would
-arise from .the use of them. He freely admitted that
this was the most important part of the Bill. 'The Eight
Hon. Gentleman said the power to, prevent fraud would
rest solely Rad entirely on the certificate of origin. This
was not the case—indeed it was Very far from the- case.
Under the existing law: of
.this country occasions were
constantly arising in which certificates werereqiiired of
the origin of things introduCed into it. This was one of
the main' principles of. the navigation laWS:=Hone of its
most essential characteristics. Therefore it was not a
new practice ; there was no noveltYWhatever in it—ne
nntried experiment,' but simply a duty -which- certain
'public officers were called upon habitually' to discharge ;
and thiii was not done in every case, or-even in many
Cases, by means of a special investigation. 'When there
was reason to suppOse -that a fraud was contemplated'-
then of course the facts and circumstances were speoifi-: '
tally inquired into, but when such' was not the case, then, '
there was only the usual and ordinary examination of
the ship's papers. Therefore, under this Bill, and in the
instances referred to, the proper authorities wouldd-only
have to do that which they were accustomed tp britinany
other occasions. The Right Hon., Gentleinan(Mr. La--
bouchere) seemed to think that the Government, pro-.
posed to- depend solely on the certificate ; they did
no such thing, but on. other general precatitionsas
The Right Hon, Gentleman' also stated 'that no •certi.:,
ficate of origin had heretofore been required„-With
foreigaets had any thing 'to do. ..1-16-(Mie. Gladstone)
knew, not whether his Right. Hot,* Friend referred toz;(
foreigners holding official situations,' or to foreigners
Carrying on and usually engaged in mercantile affairs,
If he referred, to the former, of course it *ould not be
required ; if to the latter, he (Mr, Gladstone) begged4o
say it was not a novel feature in the As foreigners
carried onbusiness in English .ports... so did English Mar-
chants in foreign ports and their signatures must, 'of
necessity, be oftentimes Liken in various matters of the
highest iniportance. But his Right Hen. Friend argued.
that 'where there was a strong , interest 'to' deceive;
a certificate of origin would be' or no value:
He did • not agree in that ' with ,-• his Right
Honourable Friend • and, further, he 'must remind
him of the Coffee Bill of his Own friend, now toed
Monteagle, in the year 1835, Where the inducement -to
fraud was: no the
than . fife 'tialfpence in the- pound,
where a certificate of. origin was required L-but under-
Which -,arrangement he (Mr. Gladstone] had never yet
heard that fraud had heen succesSfaily pre*tisect Let
him assure, his Right lion. Friend that fraudulent ofte7,
rations could no( he
_carried on ,is expense. Th6y
' • With,

- •
would comply with the .Right Hon.. J.laronet's sag- had not merely the liabilities of detection to -cope ,eiTs. , jority -
tion - because he was not without hopes that the. Right lice ' R
but the absolute burden of heavy, disbursements. -_ To evening,
down,. _ ieurable Baronet.(Sir °pert
ges , commit freed in these matters, a vessel must make a Peel) came to that House, and insisted on the
when they had gone through the clauses of the Bill it
second voyage in order to give effect to that fraud,; and original words being reinstated in the resolution, thteats
would be so clear that the people of this country were
look at the expense which this incurred to the parties ens ening. the. House, if
called upon to make all those sacrifices for no
gaged in it ! Why, .even- without these' certificates of he would Tesigny•yess .resign, and , hand over 1 the
practical benefit ; that they were exhibiting origin, be (Mr. Gladstone) shotild.te very little afritid of government of the .country to the Right lion. Gentle-
-themselves in the eyes of the • world as people who trick or imposition? hut -then. he thought-the 'POO of 'men near him (pointing •to the front of the. Opposition
were . unable . to carry iheir own principles
.into England had a right to 'require them--had a right to bench)--that 'to them he would give up the adminiSteas
effect ; that they •:• were introaucin g a system of require every precaution against. the ' introduction, of tion of affairsss-(Loud cries of "No, no.") Well, then,
to those gentlemen beloW him.--(Great laughter.) : He
extensive fraud in the commercial world, that the slave-grown sugar, after the - heavy sacrifiCes they had
House 'upon. the report ..would, be induced to reverse made to, suppress slavery in their own colOnies. In his (Mr. PuncoMbe) supposed the Right -Ilon;.Gentlman
. opinion the fears' of the Right Hon: Gentleman as te.the referred in his , threat to .the Noble Lord (John
their decision.—(Cheers.) The mere they discussed
Consuls,
.beingunpleasantly_up
not mixed with veracity- Russell and other Hon. Members Members near him, rather
the question, the more.evident it: would be, thatit was
•
not advisable to attempt to draw a distinction .between of - -
individuals would turn out, wholly unfounded. Let than to. those honourable younggentlemen 1
him look at the real difficulty in such a case. The dif- benches opposite (pointing, amid lotul laughter, t the
the two classes of foreign sugar.—(Cheers.) • . ficulty was to be Satisfied that the sugar of Cochin-China seats usually occupied the
." Young England" party).
Mr. GLADSTONE said, that although the Right . was net exposted. from China. Why, at a port; every However -that might be, there was, the threat, o the,
Hon. Gentleman recommended his lion. Friend (Mr.
one. knew what articles' were imported, :what exported-7- .. Right Hon.' Beronet.—(Cheers.) And he' told t tem,
Hume) not to discuss the question on this clause, where they came from; whence they were bound to. . moreover, that though they 'might choose to .di ,r in
he could not resist the temptatien of stating in very These were matters of daily conversation on the wharfs; opinion with his politics, that differ with-him hi practice_
glowing language what were the arguments against and any man of ordinary' common sense could easily. :shey should notH(Cheers)--or rather, that differ asithey
.goods not ofmight, he himself should continue in the course lie had
the Bill.—(Hear, hear.) An observation had been ascertain what was going on. in respect to . . , .
Y laid down for himself, and they might follow as :they
made; about - the -Government shifting their ground. a fragile, and light, and portable, but of a peculiar!
bulky and heavy Character. If they were dealing; with liked.--(Loud cheers.) :So it appeared that Hon. Gen-
lie begged to tell the Noble Lord that he was able
theirth' Inge that cobe carried about in their hands or in: tlenien opposite, with a sort of Whigpholuas-(Laughter)
to giVe. a confident denial to that statement, auld
pockets-with gpirits, that, could be run ashore in ; —preferred sacrificing' •houestyy--(llear)—political • con-
Government were preparecltomeet the Noble ' or s
Id thed
kegs, then .they, might, with some reason, talk of dif-: sistency—(Hear)--aye; and some of them even changed
'objections point by point, whenever it Would 'be con-• ficultiei ; .but with .large, heavy, and unwieldy packages, their 'votese-'-(Lond cheers)--sonte four or five of them—
Venient.--(Hear; hear.) - The Hon. Member for such as sugar was Stewed away in„ he, far one, could-not (EOur, four)s--.4ell;:fcirs-sqeite epough—went and voted
Montrose had attributed to him (Mr. Gladstone) the anticipate the slightest 'practical difficulty; And tis to diametriCally opposite, on the Monday night, to the way
having complained of being ,catechised on the subject the transhipping of these packages, what -mast the world in which they had voted on the Friday,.•-(Great cheer-
of
this Bill. lie was net: aware that 'he had made be :about to let it take place without notice or obserias ing)'••ile was sure the Right Hon. Baronet' t the head
any such • eoniplaint„ butscertainlY. he must • observe, tion? It could nit be done in the darks-it must-be done ' Of. the Goiernment minit, have been astonished and stir-
' that 'with' respect to' the sugars of -France, Austria, in the daylight, and .it required much labour and many. prised at the success of a manoeuvre which toad Convert.
and Northern Germany, that, OS those countries had hands. The Right Hon. Gen ei tle-en'had stated that, he - minority of 20 .on one night into a majority of 22 en
barely enOugli•te•stipply 'their oWn wants, he :did not thoht the attempt to exclude .slaVe.grown sugar would anothers--(Cheers) . Now he begged te say he did not
inoperative, and , e believed ,that' to e opinion of blame _the'• n.Baronet for thelanguage hehad
think ibe 'the
think it necessary to provide for any Contingency aria- whole commercialsciw, for his own part, `he used to his supporters behind him. In his (Mr.buns.
e world. , . „. , .
matter, . however, was -
ling from those quarters; The ,
• t was of a decidedly opposite opinions' and :by opinion • CoMise's) opinion, he had -treated them - exactly in• the
entirely.at the discretion of the (iovernmeut.s, - he should abide. ~ . ' '''' ' - ' ''L 2. "'' ..
manner- they :deserved--Great cheering' and laugh..l
''.- sir.' P. BARING said the, clausal gave to the Go= - Mr. HAWES .said there could be no doubt the ter)-for he did think, after the eXpresaion of their opi-1
sernment the, power. to admit sugar which they felt ~ , . .
transhipment would be unprofitable, and why, therefore,. ,nionon the,factory,
.question-ss(Rear, ;hear):--and their
:satisfied was the produce of free labour: , ~tinder these. should they clog itivitii a differential duty ? He thought; .reversal of that opinion, the Right- lion. Baronet 'had a
circumstances, they. (the Opposition) , asked the Go; the isigbt Hon. Gentleman had entirely failed to Was perfect right once more to make them Move round; and-lie '1
iernment• to have the goodness to explain what they . blish his. own :case,- and 'he hoped this `temptation to-, mostsay, never did a set. of Members: show themselves 1
_meant liy,the produce of , 'n order Let fraud would not' meet the sanction' df the House.. '' . ~ more of spaniels, better brokenin,or more submissive than 1
freelifbour, --i I;
likely
=the Might aseertain hoW they-Vvere_. to p!er- Lord PALMERSTON thought the Rightlion. G-ti 1 •th .and lr stred independent tl h
e • those hen. se - •gen emee.w o,
tlenian's-aegunient on this question the
cut away graced the featsbehind their 'master .-(G t cheering'
_ .
.ciselhepewer Which *as 'vested in therm , The Right'
the ground.. on . which this measure .itself' was based ; ' and laughter.) But
they
(Mr.' Duncombe) asked. hat t
n. . ent man ;• replied, that. he could. not "gise aoy
116 G I • . . because. he Said- that the advantage of. in admission to. 'Masse what did they appose the_ people out of doors.!
definition ; • He thought, :putting ' the whole subject .
the British market would not be s a sufficient temptation thought 'of, their proceeditigs ?---(Cheer's.)- iDld they
tdgether, 'the Government- ought le- tell them what to- induce 'persons to commit fraud . e that not only dil • suppose fora
• were the'sPeelei of sugar.theyintetidedth•edmit. the measure proceed on the asbemption that there wousl had ;existed there
,ever Was a Parliament,. there:everwas
Mr. GLADSTONE defendedl-the ' course the 'Go, . be a very grem 'advantake in such admission; but the ...a House of Common*, thet.bad,so much of the contempt
Vernment had pursued.: • - - - . •. . 1 GoVernment made -that advantage an argument with the and scorn-of. the people, as ;wasliesteWed unon that tthe "f.'
-Mr. P. M. STEWART would confine himself strictly [BeAzilian Government for altering their internal affairs. He -told: there that never .in: the course of . English
to the question before the Committee. The More, this' He must assume, heivevets • that there was a .temptation 'historywai'there it: House -of-Commons sos intens4,l
Bill.was discussed the more, evident were.,,iti defeets-x• to'fraiid,. otherwiei•lhess.svieds• would not have been.. 'tack .distrusted,' and despised?s--(Cheers.),, The ,Ctos
.the more, clear it became-that:set, measure was whOllY I -inirchltieeds' bid he- held sTisse'bssds tube of :no value; •yernment, :certaintY, was the • ridiculer the .laughings.
iiidefeesible. TllQ.jtigllt lib 4. Gentleman. opposite 'ac i nelart.- :These certiffeatt,s-eotildlie obtained without, the stock, Und•the contempt' flrelind -,.: but why the House
anted him of rcsoi,ting.,A•frdiac.y for. the • purpose •of ! Yeast *diffialty.' All' hat was needed was the mere asSer: -.itself should consent to be dragged Isksuch a Govern-0,
; mlins; PO ,3' CA' e''°. ' bi". . against Java; but' the',' tion Of 'a party interested,' and upon; that-assertion the; -tent-.through. the mire, he ii'lla at a toss_•to• conceive, for 1
• ltislitt'llou„
.G.l4leillp,ri ought to lthoW that- 'all' the ' British consul was required :to • sign the certificate.,
,lie he:really believed Hens Gentlemen opposite could not
,b 0 ,
gsbods ;that., cal)se . froin :-Jev,a :3,Tte ~the :prOduo-k.., - of- meet protest against the entruSting of such duties to British ,in,worse hands-even if they had- trust ed: thetiselves and'
'., forced lahour-'--ors, if 'titeY'Ploa,gedy:Ot oiOdified slaveiy. .coesulss' It..witne• part of the duty of a •British consul, .their . interests. in the hands -of his -Hop. Friends deer
4,-0„1 whieh there was no i-,3ettPe, without payment•of ii. to fretas a judge of foreigners in such matters; all that.. liim,-...(Gcelit vlsughter.): .. Well, ,but whaehe wanted s°
• ilenssm;s4.-(tleue; hear.) •That ••was::the•roal state. of the •-cal se within his • province was to protect British users' knoW frees the'Right How Baronet wasoyhether,he con-
•' ' Ihe was hut° that 1.-the ,Right 11011.--Geritletil'an' 'chants. ' 'What' would be hisposition if he were required Sidered the•Vote.Of • the •other, or, rather, theteversal,ol;
cas-p,-snc. . . ,
the rresisent of the Board a Tide ''''us fuilY award'ef 'to telt fereignera residing where he was stationed that .-thesrote-s-(A laukh),.:theothei night, as.a vote of eons,
idle fe.etS,•he Would not incliidc Java in the ..category of 'tie believed they were- telling him. a.falsehood?7-(4ear, .odence of that Ilouse?-41-fear, hear.) - After alls who.,
frso-labour ..).tates. AS sor esielading-the 4ugar of Brakil,"l:heai.,) Why, if he.niade secret enemies, those
hits ;..was the Hens -Gentlemen
.saved by ?—(Loud 'cries of
;and.Oilier slave states, from 13ritish cOnsumption; he Was would•eXerr theinedees to .rescenge -themselves •on hinly -4,'. Heari kW."). .Why, by "eleven gentlemen, all eppos •
" which proved was =pos..,
s•sse a resent 6a,,SP ' . ._. , . _ and through him on British merchants; . They were. en of the overnment-efive •or sit of ' hum dialed
d. at ~ s , , .su ta .. G , . . . th ,
,_.
aWsits..- - • .- • • . of sugar, arrive
"-s- with• ts, large car'g'othrowing on British &inset% the certainty 'Of creating: .themselves,leaders ofthe freo tradepartyetear, hear.)
sible. ' A stur, • . .4i. Whig writs re.shipped in the Mts.- *piles; anti were thns doing what would tend greatly' The West,badia • interest - had sought • only .for twenty
Liverpool from: Brass, sy ~,- where ,at. was bY-thls" in"tlitisinish 'their" effieieney.--(Heiar, bears) He en-- shillings protecting- duty.--(Shouts .Of slaughters and:
triaia and sent out, to Bombes , , -;Sriti,slissubieetss-- treated the Right }lnn.' Gentleman :therefore to content ' .cries Of,"•Ten, tens') s Twenty shilliogs.sluty, the :chile.;
time iii the•eourSe Of cSinsuneptionh
-Y ---- . . . -himself With the CertifiCate Of 'the foreign merchant. •.- r ' • lid ' t• ' t ten shillings' tee • .--(dh
ent , amoen log o , pro win eera ,
(1104r,_ hear!) -.. • • - • k .in.wh • , The , 4,AlicELLon of the EXCHEQUER .said that -1 and: langhter.) '.But ! these' flTe-trade gentlemen - were ,
-Sir tiV. sAmts said .that. he did'. not now , i
what. night Ho ' Fri ' d '' ed 'C h' anxious '-i• .h ' . - • '
.-' • • ed and hail lie ~
,‘.
~, , y.
.e.n . eontod4 was, that if It a,, f to 0,
...IT t cm a -prcrtectmg duty of I.4se--;("tioss
Way the Government intended ,to. proce y
With
them sae or ;other_ hed to. be-• forwarded hyaseileS late " and laughter):: *Well, hutthe 'freikratie'•gentlemert
i vote . . _ ,
.•.11
.• . •
.i. •
did so .he could not coaseieotious.y ~ ssi,sss, woe, [rex nsessinti Incurred was sogreatlAS .1 voted for iiiur .shillings mit:44,olßn ' they themselves Itsid •
(cheers and a laugh.): Bei wished .tolcttpw'st,rhethfir.4fl , 1.!4t rpmtt-flrc'rFggitiesk . 040419 than it otherwise would )4., to , =id i-i, -Wanted-to knowwhat ,'sort a ' 1: - It. of
s, ?se ~ , , ,sort. a-Tr neW -
was not to be a. per. .to , . .
5.11, ~,
waviot i„iwpo,sin that ti.i, Bill ,
,_ . ... Tom w.q..0., 011,s
_. , ~ . Ihteh the consul. wailllO•itfoesytrado thattpwai.7-745440;....ke_g;1 ,1,..it iLail f4.,_111i
inanem-moisures- •,- ,:.., -i':'-' 0.,u-:-.,:- 1::-.,--, ,- Bil'''d t' ' -esaitill-oloseti t9' Ituff: whroisoasuivwuwict. VIA Ektdoosub94thlti diiiitim:J: . 443.9k;-, i 4tuoie
Sir R. E. PEEL had stated in the debate on on ay 0 .

Pe4tienlen-itsas. ty_ roan ~
..thcGoirernment in office.---1
''lre-4'611 entli 1` that. the tprbspeeititinriflsE
:lion. Mt,triberzfor Bristek-Oir.c.,M4%;t
Troplfiort;..and,ho was,at a loss to undetstandlv y tke
;frefi.tr,-;.d=2rs'sh.euici be the. party tol“44) the:Gitvettnntint
; eiLi4i;ond: cheers.) Ile (l'ar. Dunoornbe' ha`cY ft:eV
:tincsn'tt h T?trd., the, wring classes clf non e
tools; heaatve•th ey did,not agree and go w the tiaine
all thuds:}.. '.Who,were the Tory' tools now ?—(Loud`
clieer):! ;the working,.the libelled worlting,-classes.'
--(Continued cheers.)- :But what he (Mr. PnneeMbe)
wanted to guard, against, was the House saying to
1 the 'country that, they were " veluntarily and freely":,
giving,:this-,supply.—(llear, hear, and 'laughter.)`'- Ike'
said:they did not vt-duntarily and freely give" it:
[said it was a mean faisehood—wPositiVe falseliood lifter
the coercion that. 4gd taken, place, to say, 'that, it was:
I voluntarily and.freely" given--(Loud eheers)--ind on
that grunt-id he sbould move. the, omission of the words-
." voluntarily •Andhefurther'most,respect .!
aud most submissivelycalled upon-the Right Hon.
I,Barocet (Sir Robert reel) not to add, injury to insult—:
° (Cheers)—,not .to heap further.-degradation, by. calling
upon them to vpte A falsehood,: than he had already,
heaped upon that, House, ,by causing it to reverse a de--
damn it had previously arrived at.—(Loud cheers.)*

- -
• Sir R. PEEL said, considering the oppo:tunity the
Hon. Gentle-Man. had had of maturely weighing and- cot...
rectly understanding this question, he really thought he
ought to have made.himself 'better acquainted with the
-fsiet: 14.14 case than,
_unhappily, he. appeared to
'(Heir, hear.) The Hon. Gentleman said it was the pro-
posal of Government to give a- protection to the West
'lndia interest of 20s, -whereas the, protection proposed
by them: was. 10s. He really thought before the
'Honourable Gentleman indulged in such sternludg-
inents, he might to try, to. surmount the lamentable ig
noranee which pervaded his mind on the snbjects he yen-
lured upon. The Aiglat Honourable Gentleman oppo-
site (Mr. Labouchere) had Promised that to-morroivi
:he'would overturn the vote 'deliberately, come to on the,
,3tl of June, on the motion of the Noble Lord the Mem-,
her for London., That was the avowal. of determlnationi
wide by that Right Hon. Gentleman that evenlngi.
Could there be a better justification for the course he
(Sir R-Ped):,bad. followed; in -suggesting ,a revision of
the vote they had formerly come to. He denied. that it
was any matter of degradation to reverse a vote provided
there were reasonable and, honourable grounds for it.
He recollected on a more important occasion, namely, on
the malt-tax, that Lord .Althorp asked the House to rel
'lterseltadecisiont and the House complied.. But he felt
reb.lV:obliged to the Hon. Gentleman for tbe,fairikess he
had shOwn in the construction he had put: on the 'words
'he used on' Monday evening.. He had been represented
as having saki that with respect to this Bill, and other
Bills brought in by her Meje.sty's Government, he ex
pected complete acquiescence in all that might be pre-
posed ; now, he never gave .utterance to so arro
gant....an expectation. He did 'on that occasion
express his _ warm acknowledgments 'for • the
, support her Majesty's Onierinnent had: received,
and in asking for.the same support, on the' present oc-
casion he did stakthat WMajesty's Government could
not coriserit to purchase it by the abandonment or the
general; principles it had ,avowal. He certainly
mean to ultimate: that, on tbis, question of the sugar
duties,, he thraight, the ,tuotiana most material inter-

-on-the ,subject.„...a.nd thero.were T_Tun.. Members.. prelent.
to whom '11.9-;;ltudj-Itfted; in conversation, that
not heitig;:tle.ttKaa*.e,,ulp,his: mind.as fO what eburSejt
would tie Lktloitybiiii46.jursite, 'he had demo:dies:lto
,be . laty gh ter from
the ::'henett•-cs. ) Tha t fttt tit otty. • 'was
autliCirtitt.',or' a minister- but • it- was 'the
atiptf4itirl fiieto opera ti •4-•;'s thelaefiea;'-:
tfia'ikasterS of ,tlie fti:;.ories. From, them he hat-received
le Which he had ),4 pasgessionere'the Hen.
Member'Was interrupted loud and- cot inned cries- of
Read; read," in the midst of. Which; lieSaf dOwn-4
Colonel SIBTHORP then rose, and Viial -red& s'ed with
iterinef,eheers. lie said—l do not,ibr One intiment dotibt
the Statement of the HOn. G4ritleman who -has litst-satl
down, Via I regret thathe did net lattnir the Muse- by
reading'the whOle of those letters.-Langhter.) I should
'haVe been delighted to have heard-them.riteneWed
cheers.). But whektbe Right -Hon. Gentleman Sayi that
Hon. Meinheri.diPthie side of :the House' 'are 4aritels,
must take the liberty et stying that r would rather be a
spaniel thin au cur.—(Roars of latighter.)
The Housethen -resumed, the Chairman reporter
progress, and the report was ordered to-be received this
day.
Sir R. PEEL said he Avoidel,take , that opportunity of
stating what course he preposed to pursue. He•trusted
that the discussion Qn the Sugar Duties Bill would -not
tie extended on bringing up the report; *IS he intended to
take the,.?Dissenters chapels Bill, te-morrow,` and ;the
Bank Charier Bill on Monday, lie would.take that op-
portunity of in orating e Zion. Member for Carlow
that he, had inisunde'rstoo,cl his question in 'a fortier part
. of the 'evening respecting. the Lord-Lieutenancy of
Ire and.; ; ' -
Captain LAYARD sitid'he had merely asked whether
Lord. De Grey had resigned:•
Sir R."PEEL had understood the Hon. and Gallant
Gentleman to hive "asked :whether the resignation took
place 'On`publia grounds. Such-was not the cause of the
.resignation, as Lord De,GRy had resigned solely on ac-
count of-ill-health: , • . 7
.Mr. :HUME, Wished the Right Hon. •G entlemati would
_tale that opportunity osaving The country the- expense
et a Lord-Lieutenant of.lreland. •
Sir R. PEEL said he would net on the decision to
Which the Honse of Commons- had come upon this sub-
ject
a month ago. • •
PARISHES (SCOTLAND) BILL.).
On the order 'of„the day for the third reading of this
Bill, . • .% „ . • .
Mr. .fswiturr . propose& :to add tli6 -following
clause :—"l'And whereas chnrches, chapels, auciplacei of
public worship in • eolineiion with the Church_of Scot-
land, have been erected in many districts in which,_ by
reason of the poverty of the inhabitants, or other causes,
it is impossible that a pernianent endowment 'can be pro-
.qvided of such amount
.as. to entitle, such .distrietto be
c rectal into a parish, quoad sacra; as . aforesaid,. and it is
desirable and expedient that additional facilities be af.
forded-for the due.dispensation of the ordinances of
gion therein: be. it, enacted, that .in all such churches,
chapels, and- plaies •Of .worship. .which have • been or
shall be built or acquired, -collections, May be made and
,applied to the same- objects, ..and., under - the., same
'restrictions as are provid,ed in the ease of ,Churchel, to
which districts qUoad sacra have been or may be as-
;signed; and .it shall . and may be lawful for any heritor,
or for any heir; Of. _entail, trustee, tutor, and curator of
,rninorst and every person lawfully empowered to a©t for
persons under any, legal disability or • incapacity, to
grant. sites for such churchiS„, chapels, and places of
worship,.ehurchyards,.dwellingLhouses, and offices for
the minister or incumbent, and for gardens and glebes,
and to burthen the latids.and estate of which they may
be in_possession as heirs_of ental aforesaid. for_ the same
objects- and tinder the same restrictions as are provided
in the case of -churches to which districts quoad sacra
'have been orshall be assigned as aforesaid: •
:, Mr; ROEBUCK. objeeted to the clause, as one which
enacted nothing.
After a short conversation, •. • •
.. Mr. HUME moved the :adjournment
"of tha debate.
The clause was too crude, imperfect, and ambiguous, to
be sanctioned in its present state, by the House., .;
Mr. ROEBUCK seconded the_ motion.. and . agreed
with the Hon. Member in_ thinking the clause- imperfect
and uncertain..
• Mr. M'KENZIE opposed the motion„ and Supported
the clause in its present condition. . . ,
Mr-P. M. STEWART hoped the Government would
give, time *for the people., of Scotland to express, their
opinions on the provisions of this clause, which were
creating a great sensation in Scotland. ; • : . •
• Mr.-J. S. WORTLEY'supported the..clause and op-
posed the motion... .. ,

ferenee,with thecommercial and _financial policy of the
Governnsent, . and he did. jwobahly. indicate what
might be the result of its being. earried—(Cheers, and
laughter)—and he,thought it perfectly faiel to do ao,—
(Liond eheer4,) If he had not done so, he should have
been taunttll..mjth hiving concealed his , real opi-
nions . from . hear) —not on account
,og the difference. between 22 shAllings and 44,shillings,
but because it would have been criiiitrued into an indica-
tion that
.the llouse of Commons disapproved of the
sugar ditties altogether—w .disidit that Would have
amounted to an, indication of that want of confidence
which would, be followed by the result which such indi-
cations usually produced. These were, the expressions
he had „used,. and by:which ,be must abidei but he
totallydiselemsed any intention of stating that, with ,re-
epect to every measure of the Government, he ,expected
from those who genetally supported it, complete aequi-
eseence. It was for the purpose of creating dissatisfaction
among the friends of the Government that this construction
wa given. to his words;. but with that fairness with
which, the Hoe. Member for 'Finsbury generally acted,
he had
-put the right construction on what, he (Sir R.
Peel) had stated.. So far he thanked the Hon. Gentle-
man. He believed that: no man ,had received more

proofs of, confidence than he had himself received....
(.Inunense :leering.), The lion. Gentleman had perhaps
alluded•to these circumstances for the purpose of pro-
moting disunion, not only among the Members ,on this
side of the Howie, but among those who sat on his own;
it might be perfectly just and fair that he should so at--
tempt to divide thoSe who • sat around him, hut!
he ,(Sir Rohert Peel) trusted ,that his ' friends
would not permit the Hon. .Member to sow dissension:
among them ;, he hoped they would remain imitedi—•
(tropical cheers and laughter front the'OppoSition, which
continued for sometime)--he had no doubt they would
remain united.-(Renewed. cheering, " Oh, oh," and
lapghter,) And all the Hon.. Gentleman would take by.
his present proceeding would be, first, to prove that he
had not made himself mister of the facts of the case,
and secondly, in, all probability, to foment disuniOn-be,!
!tween those who were opposed to the Government..• •
Mr-LABOUCHERE said he certainly had recoil'.
mended his Hon. Friend the Member ,for Montrose to,
postpone his motion that evening,, and advised him to
take.the seiem of the House to-morrow evening, on a
point the house had already decided. To some extent,
he allow;-n. d he was open to the taunt of the Right Ho
Gentleman. He could not expect that the Rouse would
prove quite so docile on the question to be submitted to
them to-morroW evening as.they had done to the Right
Hon. Baronet.: lion. Friend had not the same ar-
guments at, command as the.. Right Hen. Gentleman—
(cheers and laughter)—fuid if in the heat of debate, .he
(Mr. Labouchere) had. held' out rather too sanguine hopes.
of its changing its opinion, he must beg to retract them.
He congratulated the Right Gentleman on the,
more,cheerfol tone, of his. speech to-night, compared with
that on Monday last; and if.the Right Hon: Cientlethan
had in any way inedifiedthe expressions be used-on 'that
occasion, lie was by.nb means inclined to reproach him
for so doing. On the contrary, he rejoiced to hear it ;
.he thought Government ought to have the power on
grave occasions ofi rensidering a decision, He still
thoughttliat Sonie" of the languageused by the Right
Honourable Baronet was not such as a great. Minister
;ought to „ham addresSed to a ;British House
.9f Cr:sum:Ts. . He certainly understood 'hins to
say. that ,the'.,. 'very, question,,
of the queation
comparatively . speaking, was an additional reason
why his party -ought to support hini. He had
also understood him to say that lie believed the motion
had been so framed as to get some support from that
side of the House. He had understood htm to indicate
,to his supporters that,they Might have the usual license
to differ with him on certain .puints, provided they did
not so shape theirMeition as to get support from .the
other side of the House. Stich language he did not
think . worthy the Right Honourable Baronet's
character. • and .pOsition in that House. He could
only say that lie rejoiced in the altered
tone of .the Right _Hon. Baronet. He thought the
amendment the lion. Member' for. Finsbury had been
• very mis ful . in prothicing this discussion, but ;he would
not atlvi.e him to press it. He thought it would not be
•advisable to omit the usual words indicating a readiness
, on , the. part of the House to supply the wants of the:
Bxecnt ve. . .
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE; said, since he had been. the
cause of the Right. Hen. Baronet making a kind of
apology to his supporters, he, instead of being a fo-
menter of disunion, was, in fact, a peace-maker.--(Ilear;
hear, and. cheers.) As he did not wish to be the cause
of any further division, heshould not press his amend:
!wilt, though he still contended that that portion of the
preamble was totally Untrue..--(Laughter.) - • • • • •
• Sir JOHN lIANMER said; as an independent
Member of Parliament, he begged leave to state that he.
had„for•several reasons, heard the speech of the Right
Hap. Baronet, on Monday night, with a geed deal of pain.
-It seemed as thougk the Right Hon. Gentleman enter--
4ained, the feeling that there was it kind of intrigue
against him on that side of the Reuse ; that there were
certain -persens, whO professed to approve of his govern-,
went, whoseintentions Wereopposed to that profession.
—(Hear, hear.) Amongst -Other subjects to which the
Right Honourable Baronet had referred was one mite-4
rially affecting) the Principidity' of, Wales. He hoped
that, whenever that 'question: came before the House of
Commons, the • Right Honourable Baronet would not
think
•that they disapproved of his government,
or lacked gratitude for the great services 'which! he had
iyridered to his, country, if theY eipressed opinions
..which did not entirely coincide with 'those of the Go.
yernmeni: It had but .seldOm happened to him to differ
from her- Majesty's Government ; but he had • never.
done so, without atthe same time entertaining the greatest
respect for .his general. policy, and the greatest desire
to give it-his support... • • • ~ •
• Mr. ROSS said the lion. Member had, no doubt made
a very excellent apology for himself, -bnt it would not
to tlese who yoted-againit her Majesty's Govern,
teent.on-Fyiday, and with them .on •Monday.—(Hear.)
In sh ..through the streets of this metropolis•hehad
seen_ at party , Of ,tspaniels dressed up as men. " These
essanie)s-sonaptimes,.got :tired and restive; ,their master
carried a whip' in, his :Rocket, and he had only .to show.
the ;whip and shake it . in order to. make them obey ‘hls
orders.. •Now the Honourable. Gentlemen. opposite were
like these spanielsi,and -when they became restive; the
Right Itori.. Baronet had :enly to take the whip out-of
his *ft.o*qt and. shake it over them, in order to -reduce
tbetin,to oterlience.—coh; 'Oh.) - .
Mr. BOUTIIWICIt- roia amidst great confusion. • He
said We Would 44 detain, the Reuse .:more than a few'
minstm-,,,They.:had. been.taunted by the Hon. Gentles.
Mien opposites4tit•supporting her• Majesty's Government
like so many spaniels. The. Hon.. Gentleman who threw
nut that lannt, wits;one of -the dancing dogs himself.—
litettr,, hear.) lie had himaelf changed his vote, and=
• that, not upon a question of 45., :be of seven-sixteenths'.
:Of a pefiny, but of •pnblieprinciple,•nffeeting the rights
;and Prirdeges.9,falarge•elass of her Majesty's subjects.
--(Cheers:. fliOst:Alie 'Ministerial benches.) He (Mr.:
;11011111v,4)-,11114 supported. her, Majesty's Government
tan both,ilivisions .on , this question, because he believed-
-them to het right--clear, • bear.), Ile winll4
ell the
slton: Gentlemen that there 'wore ireio kinds of,e9wardiee,,
t
of which , t we • kinds • of soanieig, were giiiity-,one the:
cowardice of fearing the threata-of a Gofernmentr-an-(j
other that of unpopularity. He-had • braved
,hoth. 'He' repeated that they ,were. not open. to' they
taunts of the lion: Gentleman opposite; wilco- had.himself
;stood on his his;;hind legs• and supported the Govern.
..ment.7-7(Langnte.r4 t ' •
Mr. d10814,-said the lion. Gentleinan'a fact :was true,
fbut his inference was false.: He had .given,; at the Vase,
la most satisfactory'
.etplanation of his conduct, -by stating.
thetithetheddetermieedio do; on a doubtful question,
tlidtigir would- be most, agreeal4;to - 0011,s;
lliWr''(C • cats.** the Ministerial. benches.) zplan;
§# 4640ere4Oarlt ttiOewtts no foitter,W,*alitaa;ity
iriktilvAdillArat-114 wfilttif otteif ggivitityt

Mr: F. .MAULE affirmed that the majority of the
counties of Scotland' were •opposed to the -clause, which
was e.uselesa ineumbrance to the Bill. .
Mr. AQLIONBY-was opposed to the Bill altogether;
and. considered it most mischievous.—(Loud .cries of
-" Divide.") He proposed that the , clause should- be.
omitted, or that it _should be postponed for further. con-
sideration. .
The clause was ultimately withdrawn, and. the Bill
was read a third time and passed.
. - BANK CHARTER.
In answer to a question from an HON. MEMBER, I
Sir R. PEEL said that if the other business before the
House allowed him the opportunity, he would bring film-
ward the Bank Charter Bill oh Monday .next. ' ' '
' ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS BILL.
In answer to a questionlrom 'Mr. R. YORKE, '
Sir R. PEEL -said that he would fia 'a day for the
further prog'ress'of this Bill after the Bank Charter and
the Shgar"DutieS BHA were disposed of.
The Prisons ' (Scotland) Bill passed through Com-
mittee pro formal when several clauses were brought up
rand ordered to beprinted.
The Canal Companies Bill was read a second time.
The second reading of th©' Linen Trade (Ireland) Bill
was postponed.
NIGHT POACHING.
Mi. WALLACE moved the further consideration of
the Lords' imentheents to the Night Poaching Preven-
tion Bill.

Mr. ESCOTT moved that the amendments be read a
second time that day six months. He objected-on prin-
ciple
to extending the • provisiOns of the game-laws to
the high roads •of this country. The game-laws re-
quired restriction rather thatn,extenSion ;.,they. were un-
necessary to the sportsman,iand,most destructive to the
liberty and rights of the people. •
BOINEWE seconded ,the amendment.
Captain BERKELEY suPported the 'Lords' amend
Mr. no.. BUCK opposed, the Bill.
After a desultory conversation, the House divided,
when the nuinbers weret-
For the original motion ..... G 3
Agsinst it l2
Majority'• -51
Mr. ESCOTT moved for a return of all fees taken or
_demanded-from defendants in misdemeanours, by the
clerks of assize, and clerks of the peace in England and
Wales, at the last assizes and two last quarter-sessions,
respectively.. Agreed to. .
The other' orders of the day were then disposed of,
and the Rouse adjourned at lialf-past qne. o'clock.

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The Marchioness of Laiiid6Wile's concert, which
was appointed for Wednesday, was suddenlyput off, in conse-
quence of the alarming illness of the Hon. Miss Fox, only
sister of the late Lord Holland, who, we regret to heir, is
suffering from very severe indisposition, and doubts are seri-
ously entertained .of her .recovery.. Last evening, to inqui-
ries at Little Holland House, Kensington, the answer .given.
was that the Hon. Miss Fox was in a very .precarious condi-
tion, and had throughout 'the day been gradually getting
worse, so as to give not the slightest hopes of her eventual re-
covery, unless a sudden change for the better took place in
her disorder,
Dovnn, JUNH 19.—Yesterday considerable sensa-
tion was created at Dover by a report that -a man had killed
his wife, in a brothel in New-street, on the preceding night,
-10 n inquiry we have learned that the supposed murderer, an
Irish tramp, was taken into custody last night, and that his
wife, whom he had most cruelly beaten, died early thiamorn-
ing. The way and manner in which the unfortunate woman
met her death is variously reported, but we forbear giving
currency to these rumours till the coroner's inquest on her
bodi has been concluded.
THE • WEATHER- ; AND. THE enors.--During! the,
past week this town (Whitehaven) and its localities.
have been visited by several copious and ,refreshing,
showers
_pf rain, which have generally been followed-
by warmth and sunshine. ''These , sholyers, which
are undoubtedly of the greatest service •to the,
potato, turnip, and graia crops, we, are. afraid have
come at too late a period to be of- any benefit
to seed grass, as the operations of the scythe, have com-
menced in. many places. It is only on poor soils, we
understand, that .the wheat,,creps. have, at all suffered,
~from the drought,, and, now that we have been
so plentifully Nisited., with ,rain, even. on these
soils Janch of the grain crops will partially re-
cover,-_--Cumber/and . Parquet, June 18. A. .few slight
showork.of rain fell on Saturday forenoon, and the wind
eontinued breezy from the west during. the day. .In the
afternoon, however, there, was, no rain, and Sunday, in
addition to, being Airy, was. likewise warm,
.and altoge-
ther a_ choice day for,tbe ,cduntry. -,Yesterday exhibited
another change,.kind,was the ,most ,constantly wet "day we'
have experienced this season.-- G/a sgaw Courier-June 16.;
LAALEXTABLE dreadful case of self-.
destruction was cemmitted by. Mrs. Rannah Wilmot,
widow lady 'of fortune who had been for some time re-
siding in this island, early on Saturday:morning last,.
:at the inn kept,by Mr. Barry,..at Saviour's, where
the deceased had lodgings. .Mrs.. Wilmot.. had been
for a considerable period in ti.distressing state of. mind,
and Was; in .eonsequence, carefully. watched V-
a female
I Attendant ; . but the, latter having occasion to leave the
deceased's bed-roost for a'. few
minutes, the deceased
astened the: door. of. the apartn3enti and .almost kerne-.
'diately threw herself out:, of .the windows whereby she
-'lustained. iWu ri es which ,shortly. terlaillated,llier
tence. An inquest was held by the Royal Qourt,cin-Sa-
Aerday at noon, when • bearing_ the: depositions of wit-
:news; a, verdict Was. returned that • inedeeesaed had
committed • the . fatal act. whilst
suftirtg :under a fit• of
delirium tremens:--Guernsey -Star, .
..POTU!..A.TIOIt or NEW. SOUTH WALES.--A report,
just issued by 'the Legislative Councilnf this colony (in-
:eluding Port Philip),
-months there has been an. is thatnere
increase
tinnontheeyTeuarptialantdioliiiinoof
14,357, or 9.59 per cent, as on the:3lst December, 1841,
Ltheitotal population wa5.149,669, whilst on the 30th Sep-,
7tember;:lB43, it was 184;020. On. the adult population
=dare Iris during the first nine months a decrease, caused
tythe-excess °Meath* and departures, over inunigation,
of 664.: Amongst other int erestingfac ts, the report shows
41 gradual correction of that inequality of,the .Sole 6 which
has always formed the great moral .blot on -the social
constitution of the colony., fur whereas therincrease on
males was 1,940,..that offemales. was 2,127,-, being se cx.
-cess -of 257. In .184 L the -proportion. was 10.:Inaleti
5,57 feinales .; in 1842, 10 males to 5.9,1 females •; and in
184ii_tkerolVere malesAo-6.91 females. ;-;lts the years,
184.2 aud.1843 there was. aniegreaae,-,,0f trzs...per,co,44_,ot,
and. 14.9& of femalesibeing,l3.32..peravea3
'Your of the'lattert ormorelhairdnuhle 40 rasa -411