The Sun.
London, England, 1828-12-08 00:00:00

w'th all their might. (An old soldier said, "
Wei
have done it before, and are ready to do it again.")
The Resolution is singularly deficient in all these
particulars--it professes loyalty indeed in common-
place terms, which might be •used to the veriest
despotic Monarch that ever reigned : it advirts also to
the principles Which placed the House of Brunswick
on the Throne, hut it goes on to ittsintiate that those
principles would not be shaken -hy.a departure from
those principles in, the extension of cid rights to all
classes withot any regard to their religious opinions;
and is it fit to lay before the throne matter like this,
which appears-to me to comprehend:in it every,anti-
religiotts,,every anti-social principle, which distin-
guished the early demagogues 'of. the French Revo-
lution ? thirik Lath correct in asserting; that there
is no such thing as eiVil rights, in the sense here put
upon the expresSion-:. there are natural rights, but
.all lags are restrictions on natUrfirritiit, and
every civil society impose,! such terms as may ap-
pear adVisable in limitation of civil power. If there
is to he no-regard to religious opinions, proclaim a
new- Revolution at once, for . the British 'Constitu-
tion cannot exist with such principles. As to the,
belief that the measure would produce union, and
that ifearried intOeffect in due time, in favour of his
Majesty's Roman Catholic subjects, it world tend
to secure harmony and peace in Ireland, and strength
and stability to hipi'Majesty's Government; it is not
worth a.straw beeause'unsubStantiated by any proof

whatever.
[This speech .was so much interrupted as to be.
heard only by those at a very small distance of the
speaker.]
The Rev. Mr. GALLAND, a Clergyman of the Me-
thodist connexion, came, forward. to support -Mr.
Hall's Amendment ; but he had scarcely commenced,
when be was met by cries of disapprobation on the
part of a few persons in front. He commenced by
observing that he appeared before the Meeting as a
staunch friend to Civil and Religious Liberty.—(A
voice on the hustings ; " You are at the wrong
side, then; come over to our aide.")—He appeared
' before them as a Christian Minister—not of the
Established Church, and therefore no• interested
motive could be attributed to him ; and as a Chris-
tian Minister he felt bound to oppose" a principle
which, in his conscience, he believed would be highly
injurious to the liberties of his country, and to what'
-was so intimately connected with those liberties—
the blessings of religious freedom.—(Hisses and
applause.)--The principle to which he alluded was,
the concession of any further political power to the
Roman Catholics of these reahns. Before he-en-
tered upon the argurnentS affecting the general
question, he must, as a Christian Minister, enter
his protest against the steps which had been taken
by some gentlemen on the other side; to influence
the public mind
.on this subject. He alluded to
placards, circulars, and hand-bills, which had issued
from the office Of a gentleman.near him (Mr. Baines).
Some of those-hand-bills bore the signature of Mr. E.
Baines, junior. One of them purported to be the
" Testimony of an eye-witness," in:which Mr;-Baines
laiddownrertain principles, -and. made certain state-
ments in which he could not concur, believing them
to.he'ditectly hostile to truth. In that -hand-bill.
Mr. Baines declared 'poSitiVely that it was a-Slander,
or wilful misleading, to assert. that, the Catholics of
the present daTwere. like the Roman Catholics of
the mitlclle,tges; that, in fact,. Catholics were
shanged from what they had been. (Mr. E. Baines,
jun. "hear, hear.".) Notv. to this statement he (Mr.
Galland) .gave the lie direct.. [Mr. Baines, senior,
" very charitable for a Christian Pastor Pi] He re-
wed, he gave the -statement the- lie, but it was
not meant ip 4 sense personally offensive .to Mr. B.
The Rev.'Clentleman.then-adverted to another hand-

bill, in which, it was asserted that the R. heipish Tes-
timent did"fiot_ contain certain notes which had been
objected to, and that those notes were aot to be
found in an guthorised Catholic edition of that work,
which was left. for ln;ppction at Mr. Baines's office,
.and contended that an assertion w.a made which
tbe-Darties well knew they could not prove. He
thed'pzce:eded to contend that the Roman Catholic
religion was not changed—that, on the contrary,
as it was now taught and nractised, it contained
tenets and principles Whictlmtere in their nature de-
stmctiye of civil liberty, and therefore it would be
unwise and dangerous to entrust persons holding
sach doctrines with apy share of legislative power
in a, Protestant (Rate. Ile wo4ltt, how, ever, let the
Raman Catholics speak for themselves on l; is sub-
ject. He would say of them what Queen Elizabeth
had said of the figtges of the four Evangelists, which
were in the procession pla her' coming from the
Towar, after her coronation ; these figures appeared,
to supplicate her Majesty to set them free, but she
said " she would first igt# what they had to asay..",—
Now the Catholics sought to he a‘lmitted to • equal
nower with Protestants; hut before their request
'wazproplied with, he would call upon the meeting
to hear 144 were the doctrines held by Roman Ca-
tholics, and for this prpose he Would cite the opi-
nions of Roman Catholics, wbo, it would not be de-
, 4;0, were competent judges of the nature and ex-
tent a their own religious tenets. In quoting their
opinions, and arguing upon them, the Rev. Gentle•
man proce.eded at 513th great length as to tire the
r.tietice of -many,' even among his oyin friends, some-
of wi.4-4m gave him several hints to conclude. The.
ReV. deritiemap at length brought his address to "a
close.,,
• The•CHAIRMAN now, at -the dg;ire of both pal,'
tie; proceeded to put Mr. Hall's arfiendmpot, and
a show of hands took place for and against it"; the
latter were more improus, in the proportion of
about four to three. .

The ChtAIRMAN said, that the Amendmer,t. was
negativarL. , He 'then put the .Resolution and ‘4.0-
dress moved by Mr. Tottie, and a second show of
hands took place. The result was as nearly as pos-
sible-the same as before: hat tie gentlemen of the
' AilmsWick, party. on the htistings loudly aimed the
majority a.s on their side. The Requisitors; we be?
lieve without a eingle exception, had • not the least
doubt that the Address ryas carried. ' The Chair-
man, however, was importunely addressed by the
Brunsyiekers, and he advanced several feet from the
centre of the hustings towards their side. Whilst
he,was in this situaturm, another show of hands was
made ; theßrunsWickers elainie4 the majority as loudly
as beCore, and the Requisitors expressed their astonish-
ment at the claim. The Chairman, who was now
quite out of the middle of the hustings and of the
yard (several feet on th side of the Brunswickers),
said he doubted what was the c.,el pision of the meet-
ing. Mr. Alderman Hall then urged that the• Ad.
dregs-should ,he ,withdrawn, and no decision come to
either way; This proposition was instantly rejected.
It was then PwPosed,' that f‘ tellers should he 'ap-
pointed, and that the parties should f)e more distinctly
oas sen
gentlement e d,anodn each requestedsi
de
separated by, making a lane betwixt them down the
Mr. latirp7smoaffkeereatnl
'cotre.
pititehsislytobiedihiaamirme
talnv
yt oa
similar.et as oonflee,thount
seeing the ftohrattitr
ptirpoie,
.8
tnhoe goethnetlresnidaen. 'l3pearei
unfavour-
able position,of the Chairman for viewing the two
sides of the meeting fairly, requested that he would
take 144am:exactly in the centre, or come as much
to theirehle as he had been on the opposite side.
He then resumed Otis OVein..the centre, but never
moved a step from that posifikgi Pivards the side. of
.
the Requisitionists. Another show of iO-144 now took
pNee when it was evident that those in favour ct 0,,
.Aallr#o pecupied,a much larger portion of the yard
than their oppneats.. A pump, which was believed.
to be exactly in the canto pf thearea, showed. that
the mass of those faVoLrable to the address extended
from two-to three yards over the line whl4 MP 4Pwn
the centre of the area of the yard. The Cloth Hail
yard was a rlii -time nearly filled, and the parties
\ver, ranged from 4pe end to the other, the line of
separation (or rather of junction) being all the way,
With the exception of a few stragglers, from two. to
three yr.rds
on the seuth (or Brintswicker) rid? of

the pump.
When the Chairman saw the divisions, from his
position, in the centre, he said," I Am of opinion the
Address is carried."

This d'ecisiOn was immediately announced to the