The Sun.
London, England, 1819-05-19 00:00:00

Gentleman should fed such indifference about
office as he did. For himself, however, he woni4i

say, that he was not so desirous of office as to be
content to remain in it one moment longer than

while he enjoyed the confidence of his Sovereign,
and possessed, iu common with his colleagues, the
confidence of that' House. Instead of making a

motion like the present, he thought it would be
fairer to try Ministers in the course of the mea-
sures they had adopted. Lie a;.-tree'd with the
Iti,ght Hon. Gentleman that it would not be xvell

to lull the Country into a belief that it was in
such a state that no possible danger-or difficulty
conk' arise. H., the contrary, would maintain
with the Right lion. Gentleman, that the only
way in which peace could be maintained—peace
without subjection and disgrace, was to be al•
ways ready to resent insults and injuries,nif in-
sults and injuries should be offered. But while
he stated this he felt justified in adding, that he
did not know that at any period of our history the
foreign connexions of this country had been more
satisfactory than at present, and the nation might

flatter itself that it l►ad before it as fair a prospect

of pence as it had_ever enjoyed. He would never
be silent when taunts' were thrown out like those
which had been directed aßainst hose engage-
ments which had been `entered into by certain (To-
vernments on the Continent. He denied thgt the

object of these had been to degrade, to oppress,
or in any way to overlay other powers who were
not parties- to the arrangement which had been
made. The only object was to preserve that
state of things which they had established by
their glorious exertions in the most arduous anti
eventful stroggie recorded in the annals of • the
world. It from tie past being •deeply engraven
on their memories in a period of peace, they had
endeavoured to guard against a recorrence'of the
calamities of war, and had clothed their trea-
ties in language of a moral and Christian
lictracter, in his conscience be believed it was
because such were their sentiments, and he,
therefofe, spurned his taunts as wholly inappli-
cable. It bad betas insinuated that the object
in view was to diminish the power of France.
He denied that this country wished or. ever had
wished to lower France in a legitimate sense.
This country, as well as the four great Powers
most intimately connected with her, wished
France to fill that large space in Fairope .whiel, le-
gitimately belonged to her. It was-agtasz Re-
volutionary France that this country had contend-
ed through that vast period, during which, front
circtimsiances, it was iwpossible to gain one Ally
on the Cootinent of Europe; and it was against
Revolutionary France that we bad still fought,
till assisted by other nations,. who, at length,
roused to a sense of their danger, had made com-
mon cause with us, we succeeded iu ovarthrowing
the monster. Against France, should France
continue to pursue the career of peace, his-Coun-
try and its Allies would know no animosity, and
would desire no greater trioimph than to see her
prosperOus andhappy, It was said this country
had not matte use of the power which it possessed
to smite those:comMercial advantages which it
ought to have been the object of Ministers to
gain. Me wools! not now enter upon this sub-
ject, but at the proper time he should be prepared
to show that the' commercial interests of the
country had not .been neglected ; he Would show
that at-no period of our history had this country
carried on so great a commerce by one-third
as site had, carried on during the last four years ;
and that the two last years were the greatest
commercial years that had ever been 'known.
.—(Hear, hear !)--Happily for this country, she
had little need of Commercial Treaties ; had such
Treaties been matte, he thought they would rafter
have confined than extended our trade, which now
knocked at every door, and found its way into
every port ;—a trade which might be said to be
independent of all the world, anti only governed
by laws of its own. Had Ministers taken that
course with respect to it which had been recom-
mended to them, he thought such a line of policy
would have been equally fatal to the commerce
anti character of the country. It would have
been most injurious to our best interests had this
country taken the contemptible mode of winding
up tier concerns in the bowels of the countries
with which she was connected. If, for instance,
when we were in the heart of Spain 'and Portu-
gal, we had been occupied in seeking bargains,
and exacting from those we went to assist what
they would have regarded as sacrifices, he was
sure this country would have come contempti-
bly out of such negociations, arid its resources
would, instead of being benefited, have been im-
paired. Against acting on such a principle he
most enter his strong protest. He was surprised
at the want of information which the Right Ho-
nourable Gentleman had displayed when speaking
on the 'subject of the Commercial Treaty with
America, and the arrangement made With respect
to the trade of Newfoundland. The latter had
nothing to do with the former. It was one of
the topics which the Treaty of Ghent had left
open for future discussion. If a Commercial
Treaty were desirable with any country its the
world, it was with America. The relations es-
tablished with that country were of the utmost
importance to our trade. When he stated that
our commerce with America at present amounted
to no less titan 11 or 12,000,0001. per annum, he
thought it was not necessary that he should say
any more than this, that there was no part of that
treaty which might be objected to, on which he
was not ready to join issue with the Right Hon.
Gentleman and his friends. The state of the
Bank and the' finances of the country being
put aside, he could S 6 no reason for going into a
Committee, on the state of the nation, merely to
inquire into the expediency of calling for a change
of Ministers. As. the end of the Session was ap-
proaching, and the 1-louse • had no time to throw
away, lie thought it would be better to take a
shorter and more compendious way of disposing of
them. • The acts of the Government were not so
far dead and gone as to make it necessary for the
House to go into the records of the events of the
last years in order to decide on their merits. The
Right Hon. Gentleman had preferred his charges
too generally on the subject of the course taken
by Ministers respecting their conduct as to the
Scotcla Burghs, the Poor Laws, and other topics,
that it was a little difficult for them to seize on
any pint to. defend themselves. The: Right