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The Bill was then read a second time, and nrue''
be committed.
LUNATICS IN IRELAND.
Lord MONTEAGLE brought in a Bill for am The
the law respecting pauper lunatics in Irelann
Bill was read a first time, and ordered to be rell"
this day week. f
The Earl of CADOGAN moved for returns°. be
„arts
Ecclesiastical Commissioners, show mg in *DAL
there had been a surplus of the funds a
purposes of the Commissioners, and in what ,Ctli 6
surplus funds had been applied. obJ6'
The Bishop of LONDON said that he had
tion to produce the returns called for by the N°l3°,o ofr
but he trusted he would modify his motion so as d'bich
viate a great inconvenience, for part of the returns "gbet
the Noble Earl desired had been included in„,; I!
returns already presented to their Lordships' 11°a.ted
pplicable
all the returns which had been moved for were pre-e-obi,
the production of them would cause an irnmens_je.tfi'ea,sl!
to the clerks, w hereas, if the motion were 107',1„„) Igo
this would be avoided. He (the Bishop of Tiene",;stioil,
not the slightest objection to give every 113'°— C'
and produce all the correspondence in the posos;°s tb
the Commissioners, and he would, therefore, sugge;go
the Noble Earl should move for the first of tbe fetc",i) on
The Earl of
public grounds, and that he wished to know, been stl'
funds of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners blow
the
ministered, and where there had been a surplof tbos!
Right Rev. Prelate would give the returns°,4 that
parishes NN here a surplus had been found, Oa ',attire*,
surplus had been administered, that was all b_e, fr'
Lord LYNDHURST suggested that the 110'
should modify his motion. Ol4l/
The Earl of CADOGAN said that he Wo.--has ssif
his motion, and would be prepared to say io
he would p.tt it to•morrow. -
CONSTABLES (SCOTLAND). BILD Or"
MENT. TT //tij
On the motion of the Duke of BUCCLE- ()fled,
Bill was read a third time and passed.—AdPur-

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HOUSE OF COMMONS, ,t
THE INCOME-TAX• t. did
Mr. C. BULLER (in continuation) said he did
deny that a revenue might thus be increased, if te rc, cn'
were induced, by the abolition of these dudes:oo, jel;
sume more of the articles which still paid tiottinellifl
on the other hand, there was a danger of ollleis,f
the revenue, by the consumption of the heir gebw.;
withdrawn from the tax-paying articles, by
ba
tuting articles, that no longer paid duty, for t';fdttes
the, abolition of the duty on glass might
„icon' id
people to purchase and employ glass in milnYjit he via
stead of articles which would still pay dutY• v sue ;
a still greater objection to dealing with the rebeoel,'
this manner, because all their calcalations were and j.
favourable years—years in which the Cust°lnsthe
cise had been recovering, from an increase in
(1 to 1.3
perity of the country. W hen they g alluds
failures of the Whig Chancellor of the E2Lebthen not
had had their taunt and their sneer, let thetil,,jtheag
of the matter like men of sense, and then W°ll
see, that whatever had been the faults 0' the'as
Kati es st'
Chancellor of the Exchequer, the gre bbil
their deficiency was the three or four bsu
rigtil °flue
And what was it revi teir trade The ef
the
other measures of theved Govehrnment ?? WrilY heti.
had not revived on the articles the tariff Wileerod
the increased consumption of the people'
vests, and by a revived American trade, the
OV c° erefi'
improved. Was the Right Hon. Gentleinfil
rV
for a different state of circumstances? G
a *
io'p
the
he repeated, and an uninterrupted trade, lisula be the
the condition of the people. But what wnwellifi
con-equence if those disasters should occur ~toteetre
next three years which had often occurred :11,0
which, in the nature of things, must occur °roe ter
would the Right Hon. Gentleman say ine be j 3
be
introducing his budget, if there had been s°Thefos' lie
vests and a declining trade in the interim? tosl,ol
recommend them to do away with the incota_er-theP'itif
would tell them what was much more-1001Y edethe
Hon. Baronet would come forward in 18481'.10 o.°tor
in spite of the income-tax—(Hear, hear)--; pro (t
House to increase the income-tax or provale,.) tta is'
way for meeting the deficiency.—(Hear, l'e3,l;;;Pit
fraudulent and delusive to tell the country ;wee tle
come tax would be only continued for 6',oe°
h longer. He would tell them fairly that Far, Getiighl
things could not occur. But Honours-
the ce
seemed disposed to place great confidence in ia eff
in
Honourable Baronet, so much so, „ti aIP
sideration of the abolition of the an' alters!'
the diminution of the cotton duty, and the tbi,
the sugar duties, they were willing to hesf„loie faints
tax for three years longer. As honest sa°t"
men, they could have no doubt but theoughtce
.
would be permacent, and, therefore, th feast eperrroP
it in that shape in which it would be e,„tiess„t c‘;
He was not now gi ing to mention his on
income-tax in detail. lie had done o os woad
casion, and he now would say that his nkelelitteOri
been all verified by the operation of this tslce, sr
they were fully justified in complaining of teat ss
of the income-tax. It had pressed with grhrut etrejlir
equal severity. It did not regard degree, '4O Sr'eter
the same weight on the man of immense "'too Ic3
trimony as the man of fluctuating and ll'irf-ereed, g„; eO,;
Besides, it gave great opportunities for, "tieelt,',oo(l,l,
honest man was obliged to pay for the irit,t tin eltct
sion of the dishonest one. Ile admitted turgteede et"
the collection of the income-tax was not soot' les's
so much severity as in the country; but bee`rele'ri
England—the north, for instance—he 'Dere re;
complaints of the conduct of the Cornmissi°o4 °
was said, pressed with the greatest stri?g troderlione
sons of obnoxious politics and rivals. eltei'oefr,{
amendment did not extend to any slice! lea'
the tax. He put forward a 12,,h1 ore° per'
principle, and did not wish to TO.
confuse it with any unnecessary ue f
A epo jee
amendment that could be proposed cot j,
might follow when his amendment wag rotiOtieso
confessed that he had before shaped that ttother 'ol9or,
the purpose of giving an opportunity t°r Tbstees:e:o
ments being proposed.—(Hear,red 004. oe
object, because he believed the tax recluloterstl",etfli
ations, and that this rude and primitive 001 0044
not be made decently in tho nineteenthift ttls,'"t
great care and amendment. The bje~ to
had said that if they once began arnelli"he
would be proposed that they would ,l'Oet„,4l, r
through with them before the sth ol P'r ed '' per t
0141. gove
would ask, was the sth of April cenotere °l3 13
placing of a tax of a most oppressive u;eht WO yes
footing ?—(Hear, hear.) Then the B'g just 11601/
said, let them pass the income-tax n°w);ree le 00 ' et
and if they did not like it at the end ot ote oft
let them amend it again. Now svhat hers thee re
that if at the end of three Y4ieer•hf, 1' one
amend it, why not amend it now ?-` ...Ole" tle
the evil remain for three years I()Tig";hotightfder 4't
If a person's shoe pinched him, 11' ke it t e 154,0
would say he was a fool if he did not t lit .-0,0
and not let it remain for three years nwreve tee
what he wanted with the income-taxo io or, of to
Gentleman said that if his (Mr. Bui% pori:olf,ftll
carried, he would be obliged to gi,e 9r, ; ts'eca
reduction he had proposed in taxat'n, 'riot s7epefrets,
that, he had only to say that there waio'it, ths'oe. roof
Right. Hon. Gentleman proposed to jr,e'olliretae,
so heavily on the people as the present
,he te5e..000.,,0t
lion. Gentleman concludeel by moving b`.., Clro Fre' rty
which he had given notice : That t -tee Oleg
under which the renewal of the incorae ediegoeSoft
proposed, are such as to render it eleectof 00
bable that Parliament will have the P°lre eeers ;ore ten
with its continuance at the eed of thre lo t0t:6004,0z
it is therefore the duty of this I-louse.'h--its
the tax be imposed in a form in .wptibcan iallthe4
shall be less unequal and inquisitor's trt, en the
Mr. EWART seconded the amend° 1;0014 10
tion having peon put by the Speaker, ..neJE ei
'CI4" bel'oss
The CHANCELLOR of the EX
doer h
COD
the ds'ohieli
ands
Hon. Gentleman " who bad just
speech by remarking that he hail in,jangtlOr be sceSi
the income-tax observed a degree °,! he per!,
unbecoming in the representatives or t, whit: 070
or es, •0I
if determined to relieve the dullness eceesr ere
plumed be had indulged in a series
loef,:lrlo.oenbtecioeepotillicod
not sound in argument, were
those who had heard them. If theresightßete
acquiescence in the proposals of his eoain eoafic*,
it was attributable not to argument or
the part of Hon. Members, but to a g the re,ll escoes
that, in the circumstances of the ca,tch 00;
of the income-tax was a measure vo:restieerbs
the approbation of the House. The qe,ridle 110
fully debated on former occasio.n.,rsg,er eurcesliogi,
jority in its favour was t 0/s,be fe gf
which usually attended Governsleoceoese
if the income-tax were calculated _ 'subjeeloo
of those who took au interest in !trireel 0_0) h
it that the Hon. Gentleman had witkor, 10,4005_,0100
probation until so late a period ?--(dl'geee t'erel_drveli„
had he waited until the Bill hall, a gel
House ? He now came forward with
his ecot ie. 014
tion, with a view of drawing with'
_elveree otesPtell`,
were weak enough to suppose that etsirgseeeoeos
neral resolution would be followed I*X (the `loeroi
respect to details.—(Hear, hear.) f: the Port. pritiore,
of the Exchequer) did not claim
.I.,outege,e ceet tea
what no tax ever possessed, the au: but
to stle Fr° Verdi
equally upon all classes of personilusn'd
that the Hon. Gentleman was b, _ want ,ijear4,o
he proposed to reduce, and how ns:
_oo. e
the exigencies of the public re"oenti
.40000.0 t
There was one admission in the b.?". lie IPA %ell,
fhetlhpotteedve,:irhtLiolgp•ree:rr.Arirelcstyorcr;l
ntootwhgiochthhee cloeunlgdthnoot
direct to indirect taxation--erlrratete teits",olo
proposed in this instance to su 1, for a_ 020 I itii
direct taxation, but it was pror.sedireet, l" Ti jo,
fgorrelfalierest
lisear.pt:oteabe rybo.ele;
wtohi
eh substituteindirect direct
for
zied taxationt he
Gentleman had admitted, that we'eldeetsifteder:o.
situation of the Government, he wrwhieh
juri e..; os4,l'er
tax, for the sake of the advantagoe!
rived from it. That being the c .1% etetioili:rias,,e#
ing a resolution that the income' 7ne yoret,o3
Boned, he should have prop°se.:Goveril.P'efill°llel'e
articles for those upon which t 0.,), ott soce
a reduction. He had gone throup,,reeeiviro, 0_0,0144,
to which he should have gifen sosa; ere set cis
of
mentioned tea, tobacco, malt' a to siteear°letai
the duties upon which nsountet.
_.ecee,,c 0of ioe.
millions. Ile stated distinctly' that to 11'0010dB haiJ
should have led them to approllt_r7setereeortetes4 be tel
the duties on tobacco and spirits c , ?let
plus ; setting those articles
Gageani,l;_tiiibTe tdotiig!,:oontigfiri, t30:1,1
tit
re;
He understood the Hon. be
no objection to the reduction
f the du Piet
that he objected to the repeal on to reel: as ti °tee
articles. The Hon. Gentler
of eptriotersola s
peal of the duty on tobacco and cool 'oleos ill
more in accordance with the oor lgen
welt the P
community and one from whip (gentle
greater benefit. The /lot'