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ante, not merely as it affected the Queen, but as:
it affected the Government, and would prove how
far the sense of the people was spoken by the
House of, Commons, and so he woold only add—
" God send them a good delivering.''
Lord CASTLEREAGII was grateful to the Noble
Lord who brought this motion forward, and to
the Hon. Gentleman who seconded him, for the
manly way in which- they bad put this question
on a proper footing, by submitting to the House
a votoor censure on Ministers. Acting. thus, they
-had done honour to the party with which they
cted, by extricating it from those will and Ira,
ter propositions which had been previously
Frouoht forward, and snatching their party from
that disgvace in ohich liiev were about to involve
tinniselyes. This Couloe ;laving been taken, he
trusted he should not be found the individual
who would shrink from meeting- such a foo-
lion. He might expaoss •surprize that he, in
January 18'21, should be defending a crime
charged .to have been committed lo Jan. 1820.
Though an offence of so long standing do:vn
-to that- day, the subject had never-been. fairly
brought before the House. It had been played
with in the debate on the motion made by the
honourable Member for Bromber, but had never
been regularly brought before the House. He
might also say, that many of the measures ar-
raigued by the Noble Lord were as much the acts
of the House as the acts of the Ministers. He;
however, was not disposed to shelter the acts al
Tvlinisters under this sevenfold shild, and he
called upon theoHouse now to determine whether
• their conduct was or was not proper in the deli-.
cate situation in which they had been placed.
That question he wished to"press on the House in
the broadest manner, And by their decision on it
he was content to stand or fall.— (Hear, hear.)—
, The Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Lambtoa)
bad fairly grappled with the 'question whether
at her Majesty'S age it was probable that
any 'spurious offspring could be imposed upon the
country in consequence of the profligate life she
• might lead ? He (Lord Castlereagh) contended,
that had Ministers treated her as if her conduct
had been believed to be correct, on the supposi-
tion that she would remain abroad, they would
have placed an instrument into her hand which •
she might have come back to claim to. be treated
in this country in every respect as Queen-Con-
sort.—(Hear.)—He could not • understand on
what principle the King could demand-that her
Majesty should be received at Foreign Courts,'
-while she was excluded from the Court of Fn;- I
land. He denied that the servants of the CrOwn I
abroad -had failed, to treat her with due respect.
The instructions sent out (which were not sent till
they were,required) merely set forth that it was
rot to be demanded that the Queen should be re-
ceived at Foreign Courts, seeing she was not re-
ceived at the Court of Great Britain.—(Hear.)—
This was not a -very novel case. In proof of
this, 'he might refer to- high- Whig authority—
to the letter written by a Noble Lord to the
Honourable Member for Brambere--and to the
notice publicly given by' the 'Duke of Grafton
when he was Chamberlain in 1737, when it was
announced, that any person visiting the Court of
Prince Frederick would not be rcceived at that
of the King. He would, however, ask, whether
any thing so inconsistent could be required as
that- the King should require the Queen to be
received at other Courts, while she was excluded
from his own? 'He should have felt' that he
dishonoured the Crown, the Country to which
he belonged, and himself as a Minister,
had he signed a dispatch under such circum-
stances, instructing an Ambassador to make
such a demand, and directing him to place him-
self on one side of the Queen while her courier
took his place on the other.—(Hear, hear,
hear !)—He' did not know where the Right
Hon. Gentleman found that her Majesty had
no intenton of returning to this country if she
had not been persecuted, as he called it, but
which he (Lord C.) would totally deny. Minis-
ters bad had information of the conduct of her
Majesty being of the most degrading and profli-
gate character from a variety of sources, but
• still they were of opinion that it was not their
"duty to forte on .the inquiry, if it could be
avoided. Before the dea`h of his late Majesty,
when they were in possession of the Report of
the Milan Commissi6n, Ministers had not 'opened
a communication with her Majesty. He must,
however, remark, iii the first place, that there
were no grounds for assuming that Ministers
were not anxious to Prevent by' every pos-
sible means that hostile inquiry which they
always considered- would 'prove one of the
greatest calamities that could fail on the country.
At that period they,received a proposition very
like that which was subsequently made thebasis of
the negociation with her Majesty. This came from
a quarter which they had supposed might be
regarded as a criterion by which they might
judge of her Majesty's "Wishes. They did- not
give a discouraging answer, but they desired to
know if it,Were made with the wishes of her
Majesty, and satisfied of this, they would have
entered- into the negociation at mice. But it
was not for them, by pressing the subject on her'
Majesty, to force on the inquiry/by anticipa-
tion. it was known that the Queen had, from
first to last, determined on returning to ,England,
on the death of the late King, to claim those
circumstances of respect and distinction to which
she considered herself to be entitled to by law,
hut. which he (Lord' would maintain were
merely ail:natter of grace and favour from'his
Majesty.. The object of Ministers was not to
provoke inquiry, but to avoid it by every means
in their power, and this talc/'lit be seen in every
part of their conduct. He hoped it would not
be thought' that he was obstinately resolved
to defend what he ',knew to be:. wrong, but
could he be called upon to decide on the arrange

went of the Liturgy again, he would do the same
again to-morrow.—(T4ear, hear, hear!)—He did
not understand how the advice formerly given
by.the lion. and Learned Gentleman opposite,
could be reconciled with the Message lately
brought down, which he appeared to countenance,
and which it might be supposed that lie had, ad-

vised. Hadid rot understand the•conduct of the

Hon. and Learned dentleman with respect. to
that proposition which ha had been charged to

make to her Majesty, and which he himself
had desired to have reduced to writing. That
proposition, it appeared, the Honourable and
Learned Gentleman bad retained in his pocket
from the 15th of April,; down to the end of
May. This paper he had taken to St. Orner's,
only to bring it back in his pocket, though the
Hon. and Learned Gentlemen had wished a letter
to be written by .Lord Hutchinson to authorize
it. How, he might ask, did. it happen that the
Hon and Learned Gentleman, wishing to avert
the evils of the late Inquiry, could
.throw upon
Lord Hutchinson the.task of offering, or indeed,
suffer him to ,submit 'a loose proposition to the
Queen without producing the document with
which he had beck furnished-? -lie might add too,
that he (Lard C.) could never understand why
the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, `when it was a
notorious 1 fact that no desire was so near the
Queen's heart that he should meet her, not at St.
Orner's but at _Geneva, and there .deliberate
on her interests, why this wish was not complied
with ? He never could comprehend why the
Hon. and Learned Gentleman thought it his duty
—or thought it expedient to bring her Majesty
so near the coast before the deliberations were
opened, when it would have. been- much. more
convenient to enter upon them at Geneva than at
a place where she must necessarily be made so
prominent as she was, when at St. Omer's. ,lle
conceived that the proposition made to the Queen
was calculated to produce the most beneficial re-
sults for the country, and he still believed in •hiS
conscience, that under different management it
might have been effectual. He now came to the
time and circumstances under which the official
proceedings had been commenced. He had heard
an Honourable Member (Sir R. Wilson), early
in the debate, call for an explanation upon this
subject; and _certainly- the manner in which
that Hon. Officer had expressed himself, would
induce a disposition to explain every point upon
which he might be disposed to inquire. In-
formation had been gradually coming in upon
them from all quarters, and forced them to
decide upon some official measure, by which
they might ascertain its truth or falsehood.=
The Princess Charlotte died in November 1817,
while the trst date of any actual proceedings
transacted,. by the Milan Commissioners was
gust 1818. It was the voyage to Greece, which
her Majesty undertook in the autumn of 1817,
which determined Ministers to ploceed without
delay to gain some official. knowledge of her, con- .
duct.. It was in consequence of•the flood of in-
telligenCe which burst in upon them respecting
time particulars of that voyage that the Milan -
Commission was established. It had been said, .
that the, evidence was not properly. sifted and
looked into, previous to bringing forward the
proceedings. If the House. were toga into an

influiry? and Mr. Cooke and Mr. Powell, the
legal Gentlemen who concluded the Commission,
were brought before the House, they would
prove that every means of cross-examination and

scrutiny which could be devised, had been re-
sorted to in the collecting of the evidence. lie
could not, as an honest man, have advised his
Majesty to have received the Queen with all the
dignities and privileges of his Consort, after what
her own witnesses had proved against her. The
Honourable and Learned Gentleman opposite
' had now shown what line of defence he had
at first intended to- adopt. 'fl Hereditary
Grand Master of the Order of St. Caroline bad
remained in Paris, according to the lion. and
Learned Member's own admission, by his ex-
press desire; and other witnesses bad been kept
unexamined in this country, to be ready if the
Bill came down to that House. So that they
would have come there, and have Oven that evi-
dence upon honour, which they dared not have
given in another, place upon oath.—(Cheers.)—
The Noble Lord then adverted to the disposition
on the part of her Majesty to continue to agitate
the country with this question. With respect to
the Message which she had sent down to the
House a few nights ago, he had never witnessed
any proposition received by Parliament under
such auspices. A chill of disapprobation had
pervaded even the ranks of Gentlemen opposite.
—(Loud Cheering.)—The state of the country,
be it It hat it should never stop him in
the ho'nest aqd conscientious discharge of his
duty. And whenever a question of difficulty
or danger pressed upon him for decision,
he would never look for the opinion of the
nation, because he did not know how to coliect
it. But he would turn to that deliberative and
wise assembly of the nation, and by their opinion
he would be guided.— (Cheering.)---God knew
that be did not undervalue the opinion of the
people of this country, when they had had time
to reflect upon any question, because he knew
they possessed "that innate love of truth, which
at once ennobled and distinguished them above
all the nations of the earth, and which would
never fail eventually to bring them to a just and
sound conclusion. But he would never consent

hat Parliament should abdicate its functions.—

(Hear, hear, hear I)—He did not look at the
state of the country with that dismay which
had been expressed by some Honourable Gentle-
Men. On the contrary, he even viewed it with
confidence. With respect to that desperate fac-
tion which had been alluded to by an Honoura-
ble Member in the debate -of last night (Mr.
Whitmore); he was convinced that it not only
existed in this country, but in all others; and
that at the present moment they seemed to be
acting with an alarming "degree of= sympathetic
feeling. He was quite satisfied to leave the pre-
sent question, first to thecclecision of that House,
and then to the sound sense of •the people.—
With regard to his Majesty, the dawn of his
reign had been overclouded by the necessity
whiCh compelled him to discharge a great public
duty, out of which some unhappy confusion had
been brought upon the country. But it was not
more clouded than the dawn of his illustrious
predecessor's reign, which bad afterwards shone
forth with so Knuth splendour. • If he knew his
Sovereign's heart, it contained but one consider-

ation—but one wish—the good of
,his people.—
And whatever might have been the impression
in an agitated. moment .he:was convinced that

such sentiments would be returned by the grate-
ful feeling of an " affectionate people.—(The