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London, England, 1845-07-14 00:00:00

LIVERPOOL AND BURY RAILWAY.

The Committee appointed on this Bill met in the Rolls' Cour
this morning, at eleven, Lord Clanricarde in the chair.

Mr. Thomson, civil engineer, was called—He stated that the
terOb of the line from Liverpool to Bolton was twenty-five miles,
art an additional five miles to Bury would make a total of
thirty miles. There was a branch to Ormskirk, and another
shorter one—making altogether thirty-four miles. The gra-
(hoots were not in the least objectionable, the most unfavou.
r.thle being 1 in 90, for a distance of three.and-a-half miles, and
1 in 97 for four miles. The estimate for construction was 911,7821.
17s. sd. It was intended to connect the line with the Liverpool
docks, at present in course of construction, and thus facilitate the
coal traffic from the pits to the vessels lying there.
Messrs. Hawkeshaw and Forsyth, civil engineers, were called to
corroborate the evidence of the first witness, and the Committee
then adjourned till eleven on Monday.

HOUSE OF 0 %IMONS.
GEOUP A.

The ;:om.rittee me: this morning at the early hour of eleven
o'clock, and according to agre, ment, the case on the part of the
promoters of the

MINSTER. AND DEAL LINE.

was about to be opened by Mr. ALEXANDER, when
Mr. Sergeant WRANGIIAM, on the part of the North Kent Com.
psmy, applied for permission to appear on the part of that Corn.
pane, to oppose a part of the preamble of the Bill, on the ground
that the Company had a competing project for next session.
The Committee refused to admit the argument of Mr. Sergeant
Wrangham, as the North Kent Company had actually ceased to
exist.

Mr. ALEXANDER then addressed the Committee on the part of
the promoters of the line, and called
Mr. C. Kingsmill, the Mayor of the town of Deal, Mr. Richard,
a resident at Deal, and other witnesses spoke to the advantages to
be expected from such a railway commuhication as this line would
afford.

Mr. Kean, a resident at the town of Sandwich, was then called,
and gave evidence in favour of the line, which he said would give
great accommodation to, and therefore confer great benefit on, the
people of Sandwich.
Mr. Iloaria, on the part of the corporation of Sandwich (who
have the toils of a ferry on the river Stour, over which river th.s
line will pl,s) was about to cross.examine the witness, when

Mr. ALEXANDER said that his friend, Mr. Horne, had no locus
standi before the Committee.

Mr. Hoarea contended that the railway would convey passengers
to the same spot with which the ferry communicated, and therefore
that it would injure the ferry. The Learned Counsel argued the
point at great length, but after a few words from
Mr. ALEXANDER, who contended that this line would not injure
the ferry, and that even if it did his Learned Friend, Mr. Horne,
would have no right to appear before the Committee,
The CHAIRMAN said that the opinion of the Committee was that
Mr. Home had no locus :Sandi, and therefore could not appear in
opposition to the Bill.
Mr. W. Lee, Solicitor, at Sandwich, gave evidence in favour of
the line.

Mr. Coxhead, coach proprietor at Sandwich, and Mr. Crump and
Mr. Slaner, residents at Ramsgate, corroborated the evidence
of the previous witnesses, and spoke to the advantage to the people
of Ramsgate to be expected from this line.
Mr. George Stephenson gave engineering evidence as to the pro-
posed line. The length of the line was 8 miles 7i furlongs. The
line, as originally proposed, would be 10 miles, but the omission of
the extension to Walsall, reduced the length to the amount stated.
The cuttings and embankments were very slight, as the country
through which the line passed was nearly level the whole way.
The line crossed the river Stour about a mile and a half from
Minster. The river would be crossed by a swing bridge
of 40 feet span. The line would cross eight public roads
on a level, but these roads had but very little
traffic. The expense of the whole line was estimated at
157,000/. for the Minster and Deal branch, and 30,0001. far the
Margate Extension, making together 167,000/., which included
land and stations. The steepest gradient on the line was lin 264.
There was no curve with a smaller radius than a quarter of a mile.
Cross-examined by Mr. HILL (on the part of some opposing land-
owners)—The estimates were for a double line. It was intended
to lay down only a single line of rails in the first instance, but it
might be necessary to have a double line at some future time.
Mr. Cubitt gave evidence of no public interest as to the proposed
Margate Extension.

Mr. Clutton, land.valuer, said that the value of the land which
would be taken by the Company for the line was 24,0001.
Mr. Thomas Armstrong produced tables of the available traffic
of this line. The total amount of traffic expected would be 6,5921.
I Is. 6d., which left a net revenue of 3,9551. 10a 10d.
The CHAIRMAN observed, that by the request of a Member, who
had business to transact in the country, the Committee would ad.
journ to Wednesday.

Mr. ALEXANDER said that there really was no bona fide opposi-
tion to the line, and he thought the case could be easily concluded,
if the Committee would meet for an hour on Monday.
After some discussion, the Committee adjourned to twelve
o'clock on Wednesday.

GROUP X.
TORII. LINES.

The Committee met this morning at twelve o'clock, Lord Cour-
tenay in the chair.

Mr. Sergeant WRANGHAM contended that the notices tendered
yesterday to Mr. Webster were not sufficiently specific to justify the
opposition which had been made to the London and York line
That at the Greenwood.lane, Ross, and at Robery Common, might
serve the purpose of the promoters, but the others were far too
vague to justify the objections legally, and he was quite satisfied
that they could not be sustained.

Mr. AUSTIN, on behalf of the Eastern Counties Company,
contended that there was a defect in the evidence which
could not now be- obviated. The precedent established in
the Portsmouth group held is this case. The report of the Board
of Trade was to be taken into account, and though that decision
was not to be binding, yet, notwithstanding that decision, the
Columittei had detour ;ncd th• IMMO to the town of