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tify itself, if it gave no heed to decisions—
come to 0, ft
bie
minute labours and patient investigation. The /4 of
Marquis had justly observed that the do cisioes ,
the 13,,ard were eminently calculated to prevent an:eed
cessary expenditure on the part of those who suerePrj
these projects. His Noble Friend near him (1):.1,11
Dalhousie) had already stated the grounds 010`,yl
their decisions were founded. It was very truc in"
that if these decisions, through some i
were, if he might use the phrase, to ooze, '79
might give rise to fraud and speculation. :,'lO
Noble and Learned Friend had spoken of the hards
to which parties were subjected by a rejection of 0;4
schemes by the Board of Trade; but his Noble °ill
nadvertl;
Learned Friend might not be aware that by s redc,eio
order of the other House an alteration had been en.'. `l5,
the period at which parties might present their Petlti°6oo
and, consequently, bring in their Bills. By this (salvo
parties would have the full benefit of time to coniider jot
to make their case more perfect, and to those who rooien
be induced to withdraw in consequence of the °Fie, it
expressed by the Committee of the Board of Trl!„-tot
would be the means of saving a vast expense both ;013
and in the lower House. Really useful schemes goose
be enabled, in consequence, to come before the,`,tioa
without any of that expensive and unprofitable tber
who%to which they hod formerly been subjected, to
parties who were unsuccessful in obtaining a deci5,11,.04
their favour, might wisely withdraw without ber""
themselves with turther unnecessary expenses' yi tit°
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE did not kw.thboia
the constitution of the Board compelled them to w!;„ or
their reasons for their decisions. It must be 'lit i:osi
vmus that they eould not have come to their ov..tsic 0
without some reasons, and it would have been (01,95 to
easy for them to communicate their reasons as ltd
communicate their decisions to the public, ;ill bobst
might have appeared at the same time. Nate
what his Noble Friend had just stated was quite_A tinge
is tb
respect to that which had been recently adePtele, he,
other House of Parliament ; but it had taken
.„a 189
believed, since the discussion which had oecurgibt 1le:1:
ear on the constitution of the Board. --vre_4ll'
ffect of the existing management would be beim
a large portion of the capital of the country from
wasted upon useless and hopeless speculation. 0 thi
The Earl of DALHOUSIE said, that as flittbstat°
Board were concerned, it was quite as easy for. the!
have submitted their reasons in detail at the ns„, iosr
published their decision, as at a future period ; ree
much as the existence -
of the Board depended 19//,, 011
lution of Parliament which called upon than to
the report of their reasons to Parliament, till& pre
that the course which they had adopted was
per one. old!The subject then dropped, and the House item
adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, Feb. 110 roll
The SPEAKER took the chair at a Quarter

o'clock.

PRIVATE BILLS. fa
A number of petitions were presented 'll -
Private Bills.
DUTY ON COALS. the
Mr. H. HINDE presented a petition frenl„roitt
ber of Commerce of Newcastle•upon-Tynn
the repeal of t eort duty on coals.
AGheRICxpULTURAL DISTRESS. 40'la
Mr. DARBY presented several petitions I.l.lo'allgrli
districts, complaining of the burdens which Pre
culturists, and praying for immediate relief.
tl3l
EXCISE DUTY ON SOAP. f 003
Mr. MASTERMAN presented a petition far,
City of London, signed by upwards of 110% se
and praying for a revision of the Excise
_,,,dolkr-TlS''
UNEQUAL TAXATION IN THE SC Ks!
BURGHS bf
Mr. HUME presented a petition troll? ,t tbsl',,tr
burgh of Forfar, in Scotland, complains p
the existing law, the property in the barges 30
tw of
equally taxed, as compared with the cettt, tie
prayed for an inquiry into the subject, '-
providing a remedy. A;
CASE OF MR. GORDOS.
Mr. HUME also presented a petition from e-tet
ual named Gordon, who had resided in Gelletto
been deported thence by order of the Govert-to.
for some alleged misconduct. He (Mr. 1.1--„este 5 'eel
presented a petition from the same person tePjaisto4
and he then prayed for ant
in
into the erciiter
of his case, but such inquiry had not been
to the present hour. He prayed, therefor
earliest opportuity would be taken to do sn'
O se
BEER SHOPS IN LANCASEI-T-,0 of
Mr. 0. STANLEY presented a petition o:hit
shire, or"
hire, against the extrusion of beer shops in ""
t
RAILWAYS.
Mr. ENTWISLE begged to give notiechvtlio3f' J:er
the Right Hon. the Chauccllor of the Due
,t 111', of
caster bringing up his report upon the 'ese tb'":0)1
forming railway Committees, he w ould lon% rail,eo
person having any interest, direct or indirect/ iserifi°
or railway companies, shall be excused froth
such Committees.

,
G AME- LAWS.
Mr. JOHN BRIGHT gave notice that he vii:ia
le°
this day fortnight move for a repeal of the PI 1 tile
RAILWAYS. t te. 10
Mr. WALLACE begged to
bringing up of the Railway Committees' Sell- la the
woo
Chancellor of
the Duchy of Lancaster, he ilifitios,4
for the adoption of certain resolutions relent 0
give notice that, 'at b) ,fe
size, construction, and charges of the diger—
carriages. 1,
41'
IS, 31-

sEaSidTltratTeEpSo-11 her 000,tio,',
Captain PECNHAEVLLY
Ministers submitting the Navy Estimates tf„s iele°
he would move that the House do take into vv-
the claims of Captain Clarkson. ,013+
WINDOW-TAX- 0, ~,
t lle 'te '
The Hole. MEMBER also gave notice ills relst/
on Tuesday next, move for certain returns
the modes of assessment of the window-„tsAi„. 1, sl'„
RAILWAY COMMITTEES' Pmiloble et; '
Mr. WALLACE begged leave to ask the itheticl-00'
the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster' 1 i'''
~ ;10,8 le
was true that there were on the present lore a
mittee many persons who were interested, 111 IV
rt°
in railway speculations ? fin-tee uvi',
Lord GRANVILLE SOMERSET, ill `, -; 0." ro'''
Hon. Member opposite, begged to say tha"he fcet,ot
once admit that there were suet. 3 Poll
on the Committee ; but it ilia jee°l" ilt
to him that much serious obje.ction op pre
from that circumstance ; for this redo& be pre
one object of the Committee was, to see ' °fbeid o°'
jetted lines brought under the consideration woe., tiro
had fair play; and he really thought that theljoed 1 teil °
have fair play unless the parties, who were P cootitil
situation referred to by the lion. Member, fol.
partm Mr, WALLACE
the Commitess.ai , be
the .I°,lll.
the House, he felt that hed hhaadvidnigschtirged a bl 6 f tile
PRIVILEGE. ' don °,3,
The order of the day for the considelea rejlio;
statement of the Sergeant-at-Arms havilEt in eel lips,
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said '",',"f 01,101:
the attention of the House to the positi'°;„,- o 07tbl'r
geant-at- Arms, relative to certain procer,re, ea £be 10;
been instituted against him, he was itt"a" to ~d 1';
that there would be no opposition offere.„ •, njos.;"
tion of which he had given o°"`",, the 401
was therefore not disposed to trespas...ys uP,,,,°",eld Pi; ode,
with any statement of the case. He -„ecosi°"tar",
therefore, that the House should on that --9 sant' 111"
the course which was taken in 1843, vihet.•Arre,';,oevt"
tion was brought against the Sergeant-et' his P;v•e:
House had then, upon the motion °' Asterno3j
able and Learned Friend, the present a'sergeg 11$
neral, decided on giving leave to the A plegloreP
Arms to appear, and plead to the action. 5 a delooeog
been put on the record, to which there /is w ot° oore
no
That demurrer had been argued, and "5014 °,gArsl
for
That
sjiurdgwmiellniatmofGethsseetC,ourtt Ile v°esat".6lo
attending this House, have Klenat4thteoSsePrP....geillir oflris.clAr. d'el;ce,i
the action brought against him by Thetnfer se) or e
Lord J. RUSSELL said he would Son,0 and lid tb.,
tion to the motion proposed by the ~„, resiljnrefe'
Gentleman. He would merely state that3`-te the r
opinions which he had before expressed a...iis ees. ~,,01)1
course to be pursued under such circuntliO Ptait:i
NOTICE OF MOTION—STATE o„.r_iect Olio
Sir C. NAPIER rose to move for a 9' mad been
40:
"to inquire into the manner ia which the bad be;e000;
since 1835, for the construction of shiPso' irtAt,
pended, and if the ships constructed are ato ill'
flonere DOI .401
of the old system?' The
(who dropped his voice so as to oeeedea rooti,°l3
audible) in commencing his speech, Prod the circe,l;
that his only.motive in bringing forwoorts °get. Pe
was to ascertain whether or not the re.
..e corr; terfer,
tion as to the defects of thes3 ships vlhis to 03,rope,`
had been told that it was no business °, 4to the 100:
with such a matter; that it should be `to ~,d, the.e, for '
authorities, by which was meant, he silPl),:titheritlatlivs
ratty. It had been left to the prop,er:otwithsw ati,.
great number of years, and .blundershe°, Prsilingb•itt es:
seen the greatest errors and p
~,tion, a 43,
party he vy 0 e'
was neither a political nor apa he na , • s.id
which concerned the well being et. t coil) 'bow-
oftcti kvietate, b:•0850 heti
proper application of the finances
in the remarks which be was about
t,,
_. It wee
be guided solely by such consideir_aeri Ib're titeeiBoo, ilifi
necessary to go back for a cons d g
he (Sir C. Napier) first entered the s_efrvil2coe: :10,091ilotire
navy contained several three-deckers '-' ;
II co
ns-sted they g
90 guns. The first class genera4:or_ that th.toeisci,
ships, but the others were so intebuVnotwit the A
found totall unfit for service ; ado to
ea is'
all the representationsthesame swyshtelemb
miralty, ivlevraes Or raeyLeti.,s 0.0•01.,
exce..ent ee_rrareo.
This country had taken some very , the Sa°sltrociet6l
the French. There were the Terhrear
d been e° foe° $
and the Canoeus. Several shies
...., bad beat
~.1 0,.,
upon the model of the Canopus, and 19:71' nevL:v
answer extremely well. Thek.,t she h Lic 0°
a most excellent shit), but tiute.
were folio
been copied' up to this a .s, Thereteittr:oo
came to the frigates of those 3
africratest sp-t debt ,pie
six gun frigates, forty-.two gun
unders, thiry,,,ht tot
gun frigates, all carrying 18-P°
_.,3 twenty erli,„,
.e,
frigates carrying 12-pounder,
ships in the:,
__`,,irs' ed:,
frigates. Those were very good ,B.`tro, were n,140 elij
they were found not to answer, ansa___'" ofthe'. 00;te, 5 .0
by the thirty two gun ships. I 'l'l' officer oppor
wow,
Goa
-5Y tba` ' ill
11; Adli
acontnotinhearnbd3e,dhbitynseenif,Haonnd. ahnedaGettiallsi:t
..ed
hy.
se
et,
;,.,
lot of ships had n• v, r been
eded hY sli Theori
for nothing ; and they were super.,un friate:4oer, ft. 4
of frigates, called twenty-eight el;„,,a to aus4 dj!P„
however, like the rest, were: not to.
c,v.s, .• st,
rally-. They were t;und to cben sitar.euilio'ci en f,
thus were • given up. Anoikseiorepa: re.o.atinutoliltp, ttliefil
were those called sixteen gun
were found perfectly useless.; e 1, no, 10: „taro 0.
pounders, and those vessels were per,setv;erre lv,i,i,:ir,ict;l,,l,.
youngster or boy in the navy 00 l':' the „teen-
Nei 0
wen. •
next class of ships adopted ~,,,i ra.ficb;b 01)0
frigates, which were mut:h 104€, : . 10,1) , ~oe
übleo troy ~,niara vk
1110Sler chts!,
than the aighikee gun Wigs, map ivy.,
UMW would have isilede ad Yi‘"