The Sun.
London, England, 1817-02-27 00:00:00

1,6 H ' I
"'"i4 'if Ilieit'diyi %Olen 'the alarm justly
• L4' la","niletl. had not attempted to s.uspenti ,
the flabeii Citrons. - Eli Tegrette 'that onld
be the first ptcreoietit for sitspdending the.this.* great,
Loloiult quilt liherties in time of peace;. lle.
kilt; regitilc(l thdt ineasitres should uot hate ()eel,
aken, 41(1 Park intent called tO2';et her at an ehrliel
' print', to prevent the.ie di,t in hAnces.
'rite Loto, Anvocsra of SCoTLANI3 (lid not ill-
,lend la go into a 'general reasoning on .the mea-
line, Ilin lie thought it hiculitheiit upon him to state
clrenantances which hail come to his own kn"`v-
-61'4e.'"111 lyllich, without a breach of his duty to
'"v",Hlivni, 6 thoitglit himself entitled to lily
bcf 1 r e the House, 'Pity would sho‘e ihlt th,re.H
tract no graand fur eliarging Nlinistrrs with. re:-
siiisiiess in not having cOnrentol Pa rliaittetu or
i
itr. earl
y in November last, attempts had been
Aide to disseminat
llnin e in Scotland pamphlets) can'
g, indeed, matter of the most reprehensible
Itihrl.' btu ‘thielt, after the strictest examination.
1:14 1'11)1111 so D'iu dminged as not to allow of its
g brougilt into
ttil a Court of Law. It teas
l (eel,
intended
to familiarise the people.
:il ring* of contemPt for the head of
er
, "I"cht, Air the Ouveruntelit, and for that
silos% itsell. It was„to render the lower classes
~e lalritineots with' -which to work a (lerw'rd a
1,11 (4"1111"4 Of the government. It had by slow
11'44'n the effect which had been contemplated.
hull not ()idyl, i
tlle ‘i ; "uti pamphlets •been Circulated front
:' agnitle already. described ; petitions had
inl3,lent to he agreed to in public meetings,
o,lPlillY to the districts where large numbers.
li'tlaannEtettirim, population hail been
est of
thrown
iii flIPI"Y. Speeches had also been forward(
to L. ,
~.
144 'ilo delivered at those meetings, and they had
ipt:tliveteil by Persons, who being unable to
ttio,,,i illeill' had read them. None of the int -
PIN a,llll irteligions ' publications that had ap-
otle in soot oiltohers, were so worded as to
ite,,, in
root Ofik:er of the Crown to take legal
illiiritagoilist their publishers. This had gone on,
of thitecliells had been given to watch the steps
ii iildividoills who had male them elves con-
iotl,„,, ;it
~._...
0 " 'lljo dud 1812 to ascertain the con -
llicit i ' • .
ttioitr '".(,y should pursue. This was iii De-
kt,t.: "'I It wills not before Jatituiry that public
4;141" had taken place at Glasgow. 011 the
itNt litlarY hr had received information that 8
t t:olisrit.o.-
~
•• • . 1 Which held
:..,,,,ititioirott.
....y seas otgantattA,
.11
the
tittfilt! ,
.i 'as with other intlivitlisals 1 I
%Ili . I 14" co ' , cemented by MI
tililracy vitiB
il,,' I tIIY t)f Whiell be
,should read to the
It.
.
..
I ' ta4r;4:witll p4srhee of God, I swear to perserere in
1i1r'.411,; :141",futtva brut herhoott of affection betweenßrii):
'''‘.h, ''''' iu l'irc-tt Betlin and fret:nut, and to L!
til. 111 h. ' ' ' '
'h,t,.. Iltni'le of Meat Britain and Ireland the clue-.
d ' -114: At ,
eir'''4llNal ~,'' ' the ttge of ,twenty-one, universal sulfratte
NNIt Th.-44;41)&11'4 / . ... to do this by moral or pity....
,It•ii.:f:l44lll;tiostlii• (..:,,. fts:yel..tell„i,„.. . I ;wear that n.veeit,l,ive.r.,
t,..,:ttaktii," r liindinients, shall induce me to dire 1
4.4„,5tc.f1.. ally iodieiditid 114466011 g to the Society, or to
4t4: 'l4';i"let mutt'Ilni4iit'gs, under the punislinient'oc:cleath,
"4, 'Aqt:- y any nieinher of such Society: 'So help
ctir,ll4, 11 `;hear, heat I,`
til‘
iltee
' • ) had nd-
-141, consisting of seven persons'
4' l"'''Ill
• • I-
tolliti !tie ltl3t oath to many hundreds of individtia " Nli 'll
. ItY "f Ghtsgow and its neighbour-
t)litiii i 114 14et htol been comntunicated to him,
tiy„ 11.411ner ‘vi . 1 hail I 1 I him t')
ii t ttalteli„), lie i not ena) et .
ete
had b 4.1'4 the >elzure of these persons.-
111,„ilt evn also informed; that as the
"e oati, I. latter
III) , 'l4gusted some Of the intlividnals
Ill'llt At
4eitititic) he. come members, a motion hind bee*
l'"tir)ils, t 're general meeting, consisting of 1,-;--)
Intille ° t"llify those terms, and leave out the
IL '.. e q tlenti
t iiiiiivio i• Rot such ;s';is the resOltition of
NI , "tall 1
litl. ' 1 the Itenil of this conspiracy, yaw
thrt "IA 11,14
11,, 'lt *ert
iv.. 11)en ready to flinch at such a
41.;tieeteti it'n l" h 'Come their associates, that
k; 114j411„ e "IV ridment, and left the oath- as
Nile I $100(1, 11 ,
h. rq the
it c nas glad to be able to
tc, 4 nite Chit .a i r Itensiol had since
lAkill 4ll" of u .i, . - 1-1/- e , '
I ' . lhety of persons--(frear,...liear,
I,l,Ntri,,
whi 1 . eertqinly
thi'
11°111411
' been the result of the
''''lri iinp.oi el lia‘,l been adollted, ; ' 'but. he
1:1', ti,,,it it.F
.1:11).0r1 the nom, if lie ,slioUld
1,(1;,}1 rif
lilt° •t4tkell tip formed the nine-
il,l t'lii”iieiit ''''livillttals implicated. At this
toil *till _ .I"'ilq- thee!' were Secured, many
it v.., moved
,io different spheres of life.
111„,k,,,.` tin:se, Ile Ito
h .t.'il )it) i.,\, ‘ Ped, would be apprehended,
lit ti e
~ ',tenet hati tb,
lie4rl,.4oeeriltoe ‘ Ye Len obtained to elle-
, ' helr ilt to take well a step—(l-lear,
NI, `'''tlloitiq . Via, l -14ireen„,_ ,z,' It WaS !inrlVt'll that they
telliirley
Ivat'i"intence with this Critmitit tee. Thi!
fht44l, ily the
vil't tonfioed to GlasgOtsr. It cx-
tile I.3"try. 1,1"1" fl its emissaries, throughout
ti Ptwi,„ ` wit% the, r ' .
-N ,:-. Bill. to - e"lre necessary to pass
Nil )1 the to Prevent the effusion of the.
tt "4 could .I.senl of the land, ''.l.sin -stronmer
, Copiu . Ye nil eel • L' .
114(1 t„ 1)1104
0, for the measure than
ill
1,4.11ie riot*.
ill - a Dept of the community
he 10414 di„ , t4t had alield
~,, lintiiii is of , ybroken
gil e `I 11. the (~ ~ ,
it% , ot he , enoA y. Ile hoped
ti toret th nnsttntlerstonil II . felt ii,
e `)litttp t ihisfo. • . t-
Y,fro • "'line that would nriSe to
Ili the 4„43.
.‘
11enStou of the bulwinli

Of its libettiCs. But It I.t•s a ii'eastre which haA
heed i'eSotrei•l to i'n the best 'days of tke:Consti(P-
tion to protect the freedom which we t'Ujoyed-
,l it was' because he venerated the RevolOtian
of I6BS its principles; because he wished
the Constitution ‘vhich it had establidied to re-
m tiii inviolate, that he called upon the House to
grant the• present measure fur the short period for
which it was demanded.

. ,
LordMit.Tosi having sat on the Committee; brill
not -required the speech of the Learned Lord to
inform tiiut of the wicked -practices ‘ehleh existed
in the country. Bat' he thotig:st - he- had some
right to complain of the conduct; of :the :folde
Lord on this Oceasitio. It liad been the intentioo
of -the Committee to lay the secret oath by which
persoos had- bound themselves, before the House
But at the request of the Noble tool Learned Lord
he (Lord M.) as %veil as his colleagues, had been
railed upon to expunge thtit oath from the records
of , the Committee. Ile did not know, however,
hut circtimstances might since have arisen to rent
-der its publication less likely lo prose detrimental
'to the pablie service.—(liear, hear! from Minis-
ters.)—Still it looked like a coup de;llinin, and as
it the mutt had heen kept tint of view to be
brought forward 011 (NO, 110 I
6'olll Ministers.)-1-le had-no doubt, in coose-
quence of the information which he had examined
while. on the Committee, that wicked practices
'really existed ; butt lie did nut consider those eit-
Ctonstances as sufficient to justify the step whreh
was now proposed. In what great and populous
nation had not such men been wand to Agitate
its bosom ? Bot it was now for the first time
proposed in a state of profound peace, to suspend
a law which the Noble Lord opposite had justly
described as the noblest characteristic of the British
Constitution! %Viten he said for the first time in a
state of peace, he meant with one exception which
had taken place in the reign of George the First,
and had been occasioned by At terbury's Plot. Put
how different were the circumstances of the case !
A new family was then joist established on the
throne, the great mass of the people Were 'against
the Governmeat, and almost the whole of Scot-
laud, for all the Scottish Peers, who did not receive
pensions frOm the Court, were on the side of the
Pretender. Ile then read an extract from the speech
of his Majesty at Ate, on'tiing of Parliamtnt in
1722, iu which it was stated, that from discove-
ries made at home, and information received it-0m
his Ministers abroad, his 'Majesty had proofs of a
wicked design against the peace ot`the country and
the' existence of its Goysroment. 'That to this
cod, the conspirators had provided great quan-
tities of money, engaged troops and officers
abroad, and prepared such means, that, if the
plot had not been discovered, he firmly be::
li-eved the whole caunity, and. the City -
of
London in particular, would .have
,been pluoged
into blood and confusion. Those were the grounds
on which he asked for the Suspension of the Rs.
bens Corpus. And he asked for'it only six months
after the informatioo of the plot had been receiv-
ed,. trusting till then to the sense and loyalty of
the people of England. Who hail been- engaged
in tfl'at conspiracy ! Not obstire indiviilnalti, but
tine first-ptysons in the countsy.•-..Aat.l „ere those,
the circumstances. which were,compaved with the
present ? In the re 40 of. George 11. Sir Robert
Walpole had abstained from suspending the nrost
important Act- of the Constitution; and it was
remaikable that when the rebellion its Scotland.
had proved that the alarms entertained at the time
were not vain, two distinguiSited persOns*, the
late Lord Chatham anti Lord Lyti felon; had ab-
stained from supporting the measure; .whilst an-
other individual, whom he should not name, had
ITtinly opposed' the intriaduCtiOn of the Bill. In.
'l6BB the Habeas Corpus Act had been suspended,
butt hat wasswith King James in Ireland, and-an
'army in Dubliti. ..Auti how had it theta been sus-
;fended ? Fen. three mouths only, and by three
successive sospensions of one Month each ; for
the Ministers of the day would not. have.t bought '•
any other mode consistent with the Constitution.
It had been again suspended in 1696; butt under
what eircunistaoces ? ira consepteßee of the con-
spiracy in w hid) .Sir John Fenwick had been ens
gaged: Every thing proved that our ancestors
'bad placed a higher value on that'Aet; than their
forgetful descendants did. He Called them for-
getful, because not having conquered the liberties
which they enjoyed, they did nOt• feel their full
value Hod import mice. An I-l On. Ftlend of his;
the Member far Cambridge, had justly ascribed the
terrible explosion which had taken place in France
to the absence of an Flabeas Corpus Act in that
country. It was a curious fact-that among the inf.--
ferenceswhich Itadoeettrred ween theParlia moo s
and the Court during the minority of Louis 1-4 t h. a
law similar to our habeas Corpus had been the object
for which the former had contended, and happy
would it havt; been for that country it they had
prOved ineeessful, and given it a ronstitutitto like
that which had proved in the midst of perils and
wars the palladium of Great Britain. Its later,
unties, as in the present, agitators had been found
who called out the people to reticent its rights nod
to use physical strength for that purpose. - Butt it
was a memorable circumstancithat the 'Stispeiv,ioo
of the _Habeas Corpus itt 1794, had been stillered
to expire in 1796, Si) that-Mr.. Pitt's Govern-
ment thought itself stifficientiV secure without it ;
even with the Mutiny at the Hare. Let Miuisters
stow him a mutiny at the Nore and a Govern-
ment in France ready 10 ;assist the malcontents,
and he would engage to support the Noble Lord's-
-
motion.
" The LOitn ADVoCATE of SCOTLAND explained.
Mt'. C. W. WYNNII partook in the surprise ex-
pr'eised by a Noble Lord "at the delay which had
taken- place ia callitug Pm figment
.together. It
should have beets assembled earlier if measures
of
Atte nattiee proposed were necessary,-in order that
they should be adopted. Ile then -alluded to the
efforts made to mislead the people. NO tnitger
back than this morning, he had set-ti placarded
all over the town, " The .Triumph fl Justice over
unjust Judges.!'
,No doubt could lie eiktertdineil
:dint the intention of such placards was to inflame
the minds of the lower .classes... lie. regretted
that the tividene of the' Police Report, and parr
ocularly that given by the kligh should

•
•••-•c•;..,
have I.;cen '.i'egfected insieed of Kiting Wirth to'
some efficient Measure. kL laineCted that
the tao“ conslontional filiCee of the 'etimutry, tltr
.yeornan, y, 'Met" will( no i;ncoura4entent , to
fotm themselves anew, particularly in the dis-
turbed districts He waS convinced that the fire
{vhich at present blazed sri high,' might hive
been extinguished at its .oligin by a WailtHlu'ind
besot' of Water. He conceived the existing pe-
rils. sufficient to. jestify• the measure Which
now proposer!. Was it not necessary to stop
that most dangerous correspondence, by delegate,
from. affiLateil: So'cieties, who carried directions
from what might he •termed the Deliberative to
the ? He:argued On the
of procuring softeient- evidence' to 'effect cOnVie-
tioits by the reghlar course of law. lie contend-
ed; that lead the riots of 1780 appear, d 'lb be the
reialt of a re,4hiatly ha it conspiraey, GOvernment
would have geos'sly neglected its duty if•it had not
applied for it Suspension of the Halieas Corpui.--
But when onmover,,and not without a great ef-
fusion of blood, the whole pet ii had ceased. Had
Government been aware behfre-hand ()Elbe events'
which were about to occur, would any 'Holt.
Member say that they Ought not to have applied
to the Houseifor a ineaSu're like the present ? if
they. had been able to do so, how many lives
would not have: been saved, which had been lost
in the riots or on the scaffold
Lord Al.rnotie explained.
Sir SAMUEL Itosateev could not consent to give
a silent vole oa a question So vitally interesting to
the people of thls coentry. tie did not deny that
there exiSrbla.lnises iii the coeriCry, bite was fully
persuaded dint these abuses could he fully prc-
vented and corrected by the preseueelisting
without having recourse to mew tires hostile to the
liberties of the country. He was astOnished.that
these laws, (hid out been put in force, and still
more asrouished to find it urged as.a reason, that
the libellous publications were so numerous as to
render it impossible to say where prosecutions
would end it once begun. This was the most
extraotxlinary•reason he had ever heard. At least
if the Attorney-General knew not where to end,
he ought at least to halt known where to' have
begun, and to have begun before this —Wear,
hear f.)--The.•conduct of the Attorney-Gene-
rid in 1794 had been remarkable for the con-
trary, as the Quarter Sessions were all gene-.
rally occursied with prosecutions for
He conic! not help stating that at that time
the prosecution had been carried too far, and had
begun in cases Which never called for them. But
the Attorney General now- gave his predecessor of
that day a direct reprimand, by following a very
differeot course from what was then done, The
I:lon. and Learned Lord. (Air. M'Coanchie) had
laid pitch weigitt on the oath which he had pro-
duced from Glasgow. That such oaths were im-
proper, that they were grossly criminal, no man.
could doubt, , but „the l t v lead uot.. overlooked
them, for it witirt standing law, that Ha man WIM
had administered these oaths did not, within 'l4
days, give information to a Magistrate., he was.
liable to be punished with death, as in cases of
felony. Theoaths it wits known were :toliiiinii-
tered in secrecy, lint it was vainly hoped, that the
niertarresthlg of a feiv incur (11AS Would prevent
that. Their urrestinent was a maitre of no mo•
meat, fur if they were mot brought to trial no
piddle salutary effects could be produced. In
1791, when the Act was suspended, it was then
that a etnivention existed fur the !impose of-sn-
perseding Parliament, mit forliefortn ; but wonld,
any man say this was the,case now ? In 1799 it
was again suspended ; but let it be recollected,
then the country was threatened svifh invasion by'''
an ettemY, whose manifestoes boasted of his hav-
ing correspondents ill Ibis country. 'Dieu there
were individuals
:arrested of rook and propetty,
but surely none of that class were now snsp.ected,
nor o'i;t.iif or.e of thc middle orders, and there ex-
isted no foreign enemy to dread. The danger to
Musters Would evidently be this--their being left
ai the 'fleecy of •evet y informer where p.er,.ons of
low rank were concerned, while, on the contrary,
they had the- fullest opportunity of knowing the
character nod, conduct of iveaithy, individuals, it
such were concerned, 1,0 could have noneliere.'
Tke Lori, had talk :of the popular part of
that HOuse-heing placed on the list of the Coms
tnittee of Safety. might probably have been
his own (Loid C.'s) ease, comidering his early at-
tachment to Reform, had he not got a place how.
•It was very likely, alter all; MinisterS Iniving ex-
erted this power, 'would, as forint:oy, prOCIRe
13i1l of Indemnity for the :exercise of that poiver
ou iudividuals oeiboily knew. any thing 0f.7-The
Learned Gentleman', after some further remarks on
the total inaderpmey of the.peoOosed remedy, and
the *ntliciency of the existing laws, concluded by
giving the motion his decided negative.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL ad:flitted, that unless
it could be' made out that danger threatened • the
country, .that the very existence of our laws and
constitution was at stake, there could he 4(111141g
rocasore no p:) w proset). But tb
egreat
majority lit the House 'scented to admit that such
danger: did .exist, and every one who saw theden--
-ger must hope:for the ielssing of the he-
fOre the 'louse as n measure of expedience—mnst
allow that It was necessary; to submit to fh`e-stis-
pension ots-part of the liberties ortbe.subjee, in
order t o.seenre the *pfet y of the whole. He wished
to say ft fey \VOHS respecting the coutlact
soh the
Law Officers of the Ceown,' with referende to Ole
offenders against the public peace. lie agreed, that
before Patliament was required to pass•aity news
law, it ought fitst--to be seen whether' those in
existence ere not sufficient ; .and if they were
sufficient, theculpandit y of the Law Officers-,---their
negligence or ignorance as to the execution elf the
existing laws, could be 'no sufficient reason' for
an application to the •Legi,latitre for ttny New
'Act. But no argument against the present 13ili
Could be founded on the sofficieticy of the exist.-
ing Aaws, for-there was no criminal law now in
ex-
ist.anc:e whiuly bad not been operative during the
suspensions of the , Habeas Corpus Act in 1794
end 1")98. The Law Officers of the Crown had snit
pat the existing laws in force against the indivi•
duels coned iusl in the hit e disturbances, not from
aoy fear of person4COnSetptellCeS ilk- OW House,
or else.vbere, but because they did not exteud to
the ease of those individuals. It very ofteu hap-
peued. that crimes .wcre committed, and that the
"criolioal could be pointed out witcu It WaS km-

. •
possible In, bring against him that particular kind
of eViiietice iw tacit the litv reiluired for the e,yrivic-
tion of persons k.;oilty of $11C1) a:crime—and under
such ctreiitiistaricti4 it wbutdi not he wise to ito,ti-
e .y prosecution which could not he Success.-
tol. It certainly Was one of the setil's of a free
Con,toutioil that it the means of p.re-
w't:iittirti Crimes, but merely ,gave the power of pu-
ois!tiii., whet) tire 'crime had. actuailybeen Cott:i-
ntim:dr. In the case of these itsdividuals, as soon
as their acts came to that pitch as brought thciti
within the existing 'Taws, prosecutions bad beett
commenced, and were carried on as far .as
the laws would extend ; that bad been
found int trvettial. `There had been, till laie-
ly, flee opportunity of CoMMencing proceedings
rigoinst them on higher charges; hot that opportn7
laity liad at length beiti otforded, and Inertsui es tor.
bringing them to trial were ndiw in progress. With
l'e's&ct to the nature oft he danger which rendered
this Bill mcessary, and With reference 'to what
had been said, that these 'Societies were composed
only of•the lower orders, he adniitted it--but were
they the less datigeronS•on that account ?
they, because Composed of Persons front the low:ce
oilers, be the more averse to acts of atrocity
otil &mulct-. There were in their proceedings
marki of skill in the aiTangement, of ingenuity
in the Management, of art anti continuity JO
their proceedings, thot Witold de honour to the
highest talents in the highest ratik.—(Elear,
hear!)-Whether there were any master nitotl7-
any.director behind the Scenes; was of ito eon-
:Sequence, nrir did it make any differeitc.e with
respect to the danger. The question for the
House to decide was, whetbet; when the existing
laws had been fotinel insufficient, Parliament
would entrust t he-Govertinieut
.with that power
which on his conscience lie believed necessary fpi
the safety of the State,
Lord Jonfs Itussacc intplored tl, House not
to be led by a ilreadl of imaginary danger, to sus-
pend the libertikjpf the people.
Mr. coußTNef• spoke in favour of the Bill. fie
contended that the danger stetted in the Report
was of the niOst .Serions nature, for it slimed the
existence of extensive associations foi the purpose
of undermining those piinciples on which the
fabric of society was fouotled, and'by which it was
supported.
Jir F. BURDETT expressed much regret at hear-
ing the Solicitor-General, for whose chaseetcr
otherwise the highest respect moist be felt, advance
doettines which were perfectly repugnant to all
those contained in the statute and common law of
the kingdom, and:to those which our ancestors
entertoitied. It' appeared the House was called
upon to clothe 'Ministers a the despotic powers
of thiS Bill, AnCltahe there Wel e criminals a hose
guilt could pot be proved by the existing laws ;
that say, who, the law now Still)(1, were
nut criminals 'at all. It now appeared that
there was a criminality without airy breach
of the law, which cm iniinolity the tialety of
the State rcnireil should lie punished. A
principle more odious and detrstaliii; shim this
he could not coPcuire. Nothing coniti he cisme
absurd thoti to talk pit danger from the Snenceans,
its if' all the inea of property iti.Englatid were shell
gross idiots as to standby and illotv their estates to
ire seized and divided:- lie had on a tormer occa-
sion said, that the Society of Expenceans, of
the Noble Lori! was the head, •were far more lOr-
nridable enemies to the country than rise poor
SPenceons'. It was to these Lxpenceans that the
distresses of the country mast be attributed. The
.111 g it tide of the distress WaS
it then by a measiTre of this kind it was proposed
to Meet it ? Were they called upon to: give new
powers to the Attorney-quilend, who already hall
the potter of imprisotting rrson. 051 ex
informations before trial ? The lion; Soliciror
General- had said that tine disturbances iii 1y tl,
when lives were lost--when houses were but
when •private property was ties rayed, were
ri„thiag compared with the present 11101, and ibr
reason wits, forsooth, that there were Clubs now
established. Nothing could be more absurd than
this. But the measures which were attempted to
be hrotight forward! and Supported by this: &la-
Sive apprehension of danger, where- there tvas
none, ivolthl net produce the effect which the
Noble Lord opposite expected. That Nohle.Lor4
might get Parliament to pass this :Might
erect gallowses in Pola:ce-yard, or in the Lobby
of that {loose, but all that worthd not effect what
was desired, at toast it wetild have no effect wpm,'
his conduct. • Was it not kno':An host' measures oy
this kind had been acted upon when lest put' itt
force ? Ile knew
.one instance of a poor young
man; of the name of Leamitre, 17 years of age, 11..
'Watchmaker (just tis'capable of oversetting the
Government as M. Preston), who hati been taken
lip in 1791, and stifferell solitary ittinrisonment toe
-seven years, with only; a very short interval.
there were many other instances of
peisOns takvn tip and kept in solitary totitiitement
for inAny years, during: the fortiterstispeot,ion of
the [tibias Coiptts Act.
Lord CastcruttAG:ti said, that the queStion
rope the House, practically speaking, lay within
very narrow limits. He should therefore take
yery little notice of the speech. of the Honourable.
throne who spoke last, further than to say, that
with all' the respect Which he felt for tine a rank et
talents tif that Hon..Barimet—talents which had
not been impaired even by the society which,lie
!nul during the latter years frennented-2--(tlear,
hear 1)--thatlie must be exctisel for saying, that.
it won't: seem train Iris speech that the saivatioi4
Is hid. the Honourable Baronet lirid wished for
the Constitio ion was • its destritc.t ion
.; and' that
what- Ore lion'. Baronet hail this nn, said within.
•
the witils of the House must be considered not so
much 'netiiressedto Parliament as to.riirtain tier
sirrts iii riooiher place.----.(StiOnts of hear, hear?
from lire i‘liiiisterial Benches ; and binderies of
ortkr ! front the Opposititth )
Lord STANCES' rose to order. He conceived
:that. no Menitter of titat Howse !Ina it right to.say'
,that the speech of any Netnher iii that 'House was
addressed to any other quarter n ti.a•merely to the
Morass:, Much irss wuS it orcieri?lo say OW a
Ispeech la that House was intended floinflante the
pasainnsot the people. -
•

Lord Casi resunted.—lla bad not attid•
that the sveeeli of the [loll. Baronet was intenitd e
lo inflame the passion% of tile people, but that, it
lutist rather be considered us Rut addressed to Par-