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COUNTY COURTS BILL.

Mr. S. WOUTLEY wished to know from the Right
lon. Gentleman the Socr,tary State for the Home
Department, whether he would proceed with the County
Courts Bill this session.
Sir J. GRAHA-M said tl e Bill had been delayel in
consequence of the Debtor and Creditors' Bill being de-
tained so long in the House of Lords. SeeiMg
on the order-book seven notices before going into Com-
mittee of Supply, and having regard-also to measures of
great importance, which were still in progress, he con-
fessed that he felt obliged to abandon the measure for
the present session.
In reply to a question from Mr. BODKIN,
-Sir J. GRAHAM said the Commissioners appointed
to inquire into the trust propurty of Queensborough
had completed their report, but in consequence of the
time for giving notice having expired, it would be im-
possible to legislate on the subject during the present
session.

Mr. AINSWORTH said he had that morning
re-
eeived a report of the evidence taken before the coroner
at Bolton, in reference to the bursting of a steam•engine.
No blame whatever appeared to attach to Mr. John
Brooks, the owner of the mill, but thene had been very
great neglect on the part of one of his servants, against
Whom the jury had found a verdict of manslaughter.
The Sudbury Disfranchisement Bill was read a third
time..
NEW POOR-LAW. _ _

The House then sent into Committ,e on the Poor-law
Amendment Bill.

On clause 22 being proposed,
Captain BERNAL moved an amendment to the effect
that justices of the peaee appointed under the Munici-
pal Act shall be, ex officio, members of the board of
guardians. The lion. Member sail he did not intend to
divide the House upon the subject if there was a strong
feeling against him. He threw his opinion out more as
a suggestion for consideration than with a desire to
cause trouble.
Sir J. GRAHAM said he could not consent to adopt
the suggestion which had been thrown out.
After a few words from Captain Bernal, Mr. Christo-
pher, and Mr. Buck, the amendment was negatived with-
out a division. -
Mr. BORTHWICK moved another amendment, to
the effect that every clergyman having the cure of souls
within the parish should be an ex dficio guardian.
Sir J. GRAHAM objected to the amendment. When
he considered the various duties the clergy had to per-
form, he thought their appointment as guardians would
be inconsistent with their duties.
Mr. B. COCHRANE said that in Scotland the money
collected for the poor was distributed through the hands
of the clergy, and he, therefore, could not see why a
clergyman should not be an ex officio guardian. He
ahould, therefore, support the amendment.
Sir WALTER JAMES thought the distinction drawn
by the Right lion. Gentleman the Secretary of State was
a just and sound one.
Mr. G. KNIGHT thought a great deal more harm
than good would be done by having the clergymen ex
officio guardians.
Mr. T. DUSCOMBE did not think any person more
suited to be ex officio guardians than clergymen, because
they were best acquainted with the condition of the
poor. He should vote for the amendment.
Mr. AGLIONBY thought that a new light had come
over the Hon. Gentleman.—(llear.) If he (Mr.
Aglionby) was not mistaken, the Hon. Gentleman had
gone out with him and voted against the
appointment of any guardians of the poor
Who were not elected by the people ; now he
*ought that the clergy were the proper guardians
of the poor.—(Laughter.) He was anxious to see the
poor-law carried into effect humanely and considerately
to the poor. He hailed this Bill as a great amendment of
the existing law, but he was for amendment only, and not
for repeal. He never could agree, however, in the opi-
nion, that the clergy should be dragged into official
responsibility in connection with this Act, and he there-
fore must give his decided opposition to the amendment
which he had proposed.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said he was charged with not
giving a reason for desiring to see the clergy ex officio
guardians of the poor. His reason, then, was this, that
the clergyman of the parish was the best acquainted
with the wants of that parish, and that the clergy gene-
rally were amongst the most lenient and consistent ad-
ministrators of help to those who stood in need of it.
Lord JOHN MANNERS said though there might be
difficulties in working out the suggestion embodied in
the amendment of the Hon. Member for Evesham, still
it was one that ought not to be lightly disregarded.
Mr. REDHEAD YORKE had the highest opinion of
the qualifications and the humanity of the clergy, and of
their fitness for the performance of the duties proposed,
but upon the whole he thought they had better be left,
as now, to the chances of selection from the general
body of their fellow-countrymen.
Mr. G. HEATHCOTE had exactly the same opinion
of the clergy as the Hon. Member who addressed the
'louse last; but his ground for opposing the amendment
would be the fear of making the ex officio guardians too
numerous and*powerful.
After a few words from Mr. Cripps, Mr. Palmer, and
Borthwick, the amendment was withdrawn.
After a short discussion the clause was agreed to.
On clause 23 being proposed,
Mr. HENLEY called the attention of the Right Hon.
Gentleman to the painful circumstances in which the
wives of convicts were placed in comparison with widows,
and suggested that they should be placed on the same
footing as that class of persons.
After a few words from Colonel WOOD,
Sir JAMES GRAHAM said that the clause imposed
no new hardship on a woman who was deserted by her
husband. By the clause, she was to be treated as a
widow. The object of the clause was to prevent a
woman, whose husband had been been convicted, or who
had deserted her, from deserting her children. It placed
her in the same situation as the father, and subjected
her, if she deserted her children, to the same penalties.
After a few observations from Captain PECHELL,
the clause was agreed to.
On clause 24 being put,
Mr. DARBY objected to it, first, because he doubted
It 3 Policy, and, secondly, that, in carrying it out, there
tas no security to the parties whose goods were taken.
me thought there ought, in the first instance, to be a
certificate by proper inquiry as to the lunacy of the party.
Sir J. GRAHAM said that the operation of the clause
Would lead to what he very much desired—namely, that
where parties were lunatic they should not remain in
the union, but in a lunatic asylum ; for though that
might be more costly, they would be better taken care
of. The necessity for this provision arose from an over-
sight in the 9th of Geo, IV., c. 40, a. 41.
Mr. DARBY explained, and considered the Right
nom BaronA had not answered the principal objections
made by him to the clause.
Mr. B. COCHRANE opposed the clause, and objected
to the practice of keeping lunatics in workhouses on the
same footing as the other paupers, a practice which had
Qxisted, to his own knowledge, for some years, and
which the present clause was calculated to perpetuate.
They should be sent to alunatic asylum.
Sir J. GRAHAM said, according to the present sta-
tute, the guardians could not keep a lunatic in a work-
house for more than fourteen days, without incurring a
penalty.
Lord EBRINGTON thought it exceedingly unwise
that the lunatic paupers should be kept in workhouses,
ttil it tended to confirm or increase their insanity.
Mr. P. BORTHWICK objected to the phrase " dan-
gerous lunatic;" those lunatics who were confined in a
workhouse, though harmless at first, would speedily be-
come. dangerous," from the necessary absence of proper
treatment, whilst, had the same person been placed in a
lunatic asylum, his intellects would be probably restored.
Lord ASHLEY quoted, from an authorised report,
to show that several lunatic paupers were confined in the
Workhouses in England and Wales. There were forty-
four in a workhouse in Penrose, several of whom were
dangerous lunatics, and there were seventy-one persons of
the same description in a workhouse in Manchester, many
of whom were subject to fits of raving madness. The
word "dangerous" in the Act had been interpreted in
three different ways. By some it was held to apply to
persons," by others to "lunatics," and by others to
" idiots." In the workhouse there was neither a medi-
cal.l supervision nor any remedial treatment whatever.
It was said lunatic paupers ought to he sent to the asy-
lum, but how could they be sent there, when there were
17,000 lunatic paupers in England and Wales, and the
lunatic asylums were only competent to contain 4,500?
'(Hear, hear.) In England the lunatics were
generally disposed of in the workhouses, or in private or
Public asylums, but in Wales these unfortunate creatures
were treated worse than.cattle. They were placed in
stables and outhouses, and chained in dark rooms ; some
cf them underground, and where no man of feeling would
Put his dog.—(Hear, hear.) If the cases of these unfor-
tunate lunatics were taken in hand during the first three
'months of their illness they might be treated successfully,
but after the expiration of twelve months the hula*,
bee alto confirmed, and cure became almost impossible.
Neither was it true economy to keep those creatures in
:".orktisua,g, for, as their disease became permanent, so
the expense of their maintenance became certain and
"enstant.—(Hear, hear.)
Sir JAMES GRAHAM said the remarks of his Noble
Friend the Member for Dorsetshire were entitled to the
gravest consideration. His Noble Friend had indeed ! „
given utterance to a startling fact, that there were
England 17,000 pauper lunatics, and asylums capable
of
accommodating only 4,500. Such a statement was
a well entitled to the consideration of Parliament, In con-
aNusoce of the report of' the Metropolitan Commis-
sioners of Lunacy, it had been the intention of the
.Government to bring the whole subject under the con-
int",eiration of Parliament, which they would certainly do
-I?._e ensuing session.—(Hear, hear.)
te WAKLEY said though the expense of maintain-
Ittgnienatic paupers in the workhouse was one-third less
jua., in a lunatic asylum, yet as the Noble Lord had
,118._'Y remarked, that that economy would bell most
,07t-tighted, as well as selfish, which should treat those
the Whole
demented creatures on such a ground. lie hoped
=,,,wahole subject would be brought under the revision
p. Parliament at as early a period next session as was
When workhouse authorities were desirous
of tjaples;rnitting pauper lunatics to asylums, they were
told the
s;___
se asylums were full. So the poor creatures whose
, 'nary
—lea had only commenced were subjected to the
or
workhouse regulations, without care or medical
treat
0 ttinent and thus their insanity increased. The Hon.
`*c lerean lauded the manner in which the Middlesex
the Itsnwell, was ordered. He quite concurred in
remarks of the Noble Lord, about the necessity of
ing eases o' this description under proper medical
Its
at the earliest period ef the disease, for whic4
Pero-etiese
, regretted there was so little f.reeision at present.
things ought to be. guarded against. The Noble
beret. (Ashley) had promised to bring the whole subject
the House, and he must be sporred up to keep 114
promise, for ise, no man was more ootnpete4 to handle the
question
of
,•—(ilear, hear.) But he must not e1p.91 N4b
Part ; he must embrace the whole, or the public
31°. uld not be satisfied. The question involved the very
wet Principle•
of humanity, and, as such, he would not

wish to see it in better hands than those of the Noble
Lord.

The clause was then agreed to, after a slight verbal
amendment.

Clause 25 was agreed to. On clause 26 being proposed,
Colonel WOOD (trecon) said this clause was to
apply to the metropolitan district alone, and it was
his wish that its power should be extended throughout
the country. He proposed, therefore, to leave out the
words " any part of which is situated within the me-
tropolitan police district, or the City of London."

Sir J. GRAHAM was understood to oppose the
amendment, but the observations which fell from him
were wholly inaudible in the gallery.
After a desultory conversation between Mr. Escott,
Mr. Wakley, Sir J. Graham, Mr. Hawes, Col. Wood,
Mr. D'Eyncourt, Sir Walter James, and Capt. Pechell,
the amendment was withdrawn, with a view to Colonel
Wood's bringing up a clause at the proper time, embo-
dying his views and wishes, and then taking the sense of
the House upon it.— The clause was then agreed to.
On clause 27 being put, which regulated the burials of
paupers, some short discussion took place, when
Mr. WAKLEY entreated the Right Hon. Baronet to
postpone the clause, because he was convinced, upon con-
sideration, the clause would be re-constructed, and great
misery prevented by it. He would state, seeinc, what he
had, that poor creatures went about begging for coffins,
and could not get them till there was a meeting of the
board of guardians. In cases like these, burials ought
to take place as soon as possible, because it was most in-
jurious to the health of the survivors, to allow the corpse
to remain in a room where seven or eight people were
huddled together.
Sir J. GRAHAM deprecated the postponement of the
clause. All the grievances of which the Hon. Gentle-
man complained would be perpetuated unless some pro-
vision was made for the burial of persons who died out
of the workhouse. As the law at present stood, no
parish was compelled to pay for the burial of a pauper,
who died out of the workhouse.
Colonel WOOD trusted the Hon. Member for Fins-
bury would not insist upon postponing the clause ; he
might alter it as he pleased, but he trusted it would be
made law that the board of guardians of parishes should
furnish coffins to paupers.
Sir J. GRAHAM was willing to leave out the words
with respect to die pauper dying " without effects of suf-
ficient value to bury him," and by that means he thought
he should put an end to all objection.
After some further discussion,

Lord ASHLEY moved that the following proviso
should be added to the clause :—" Provided always, that
it shall not be lawful for any officer of any parish or
union, or constable, to receive any money for the burial
of the body of any poor person which may be within the
parish, division of parish, chapelry-, or place in which
the death may have occurred, or to act as undertaker,
for personal gain or reward, in the burial of any such
body, or to receive any money from any dissecting school
or school of anatomy, or hospital, or other person or
persons to whom any such body shall be delivered, or to
derive any personal emolument whatever for or in re-
spect of the burial or disposal of any such body ; and
any such officer offending as aforesaid shall be thence-
forth incapable of holding any office under the said re-
cited Act, or this Act, or under any other Act relating
to the relief of the poor in England.'
The motion was agreed to after a few observations
from Mr. BORTHWICK and Sir J. GRAHAM, and the
clause passed.
On clause 28 being proposed,
Mr. C. WOOD said, that, in his opinion, the au-
ditors ought to be elected by the Commissioners, and
not by the guardians. He also thought there should
be a power vested in them, of disallowing sums of
money levied for illegal purposes.
Mr. S. .WORTLEY wished to know what was the
extent of the power to be vested in the Commissioners
under this clause, and what grounds there were for
making alterations with regard to the auditors.
Mr. HAWES thought that the auditor to be ap-
pointed under this clause, should be a person of some
standing where the district was large, and the accounts
extensive. By this clause the auditor was to be ap-
pointed by the chairman, or vice-chairman of the dis•
trict, and two guardians. Now, he did not think this
was the best mode of obtaining a proper auditor.
Sir C. NAPIER said the parishes of Marylebone and
St. Pancras did not wish to have their Local Acts inter-
fered with at all, and they wished to know from the
Right Hon. Gentleman whether this clause would inter-
fere with those Local Acts.

Captain PECHELL said that he was alarmed at the
interference of this clause with Local Acts. He hoped
the Right Hon. Gentlemen would not allow a clause of
this grasping nature to exist in a Bill to amend the poor-
laws. He hoped the Right Hon. Gentleman would not
persist in maintaining this clause as a portion of the
Bill. It could not fail to excite distrust and suspicion in
those places which were under Local Acts. He objected
to the auditor being appointed by the Commissioners.
Colonel SIBTHORP would move that this clause be
expunged.
Sir J. GRAHAM said that objections of a very dif-
ferent kind had been urged against this clause. The
words of the clause would operate not only on those
unions under the control of the Poor-law Commissioners,
but where Local Acts existed. Some Hon. Gentlemen
complained that the clause would give too much power,
though indirectly, to the Commissioners; while the Hon.
Gentleman the Member for Halifax thought the Com-
missioners should have more power with regard to the
appointment of the auditor. The Right Hon. Gentle-
man then quoted the report of the Committee of 1838,
to show that they thought the auditor was too much
under the control of the guardians. If he adopted either
of the opinions which had been expressed with regard
to this clause, he would adopt that of the Right Hon.
Gentleman the Member for Halifax, who thought that
the auditor should be appointed by the Commissioners.
Strict principle would require they should go that
length, but they had not gone so far, and he hoped the
Committee would not reject the clause.

Mr. C. WOOD said That everything the Right Hon.
Gentleman had stated showed that the power of appoint-
ing the auditor should be vested in the Commissioners.
Leaving his appointment in the hands of the chairman
or vice-chairman would leave things pretty much as
as they were at present, for the auditor being appointed
by those persons would not be at perfect liberty to re-
fuse auditing an illegal application of money.
The Hon, Member concluded by moving an amendment
to the effect that the auditors be appointed by the Poor-
law Commissioners, instead of by the chairman and
vice-chairman of the board of guardians.
Mr. DENISON supported the amendment. If the
Hon. Member for Halifax would divide, he would sup-
port his motion.
Mr. VERNON SMITH would likewise support the
motion of his Hon. Friend the Member for Halifax. The
principle of the board of guardians appointing an officer
to audit the accounts, was contrary to propriety. The
officer should be made thoroughly independent of the
board of guardians, and of all other local influence.
Mr. J. S. WORTLEY said an auditor was in all cases
appointed by those whom it was intended he should pro-
tect. He could not see why the principle which operated
in other cases should not be allowed in this—he thought
the rate-payers should have a voice in the appointment
of the auditors. He would entertain great objections to
conferring on the Poor-law Commissioners the power of
displacing an auditor appointed by the poor-law guar-
dians, who at present did his business honestly and
efficiently.
Sir JAMES GRAHAM explained.
Sir C. NAPIER would oppose the amendment of the
lion. Member for Halifax.
Mr. ESCOTT would oppose both the clause and the
amendment.
Mr. RICE said the change proposed by the Right
Hon. Baronet would be most offensive to the board of
guardians, and he thought it was altogether unnecessary.
Mr. DARBY thought the present system of auditing
parish accounts was exceedingly inefficient. There was
no means of knowing whether the overseer had paid in
all the money he had received ; but he must also say
that he feared the present Bill provided no remedy for
this defect.
Mr. R. YORKE wished to know why the appoint-
ment was to rest with the chairman or vice-chairman,
and not with the guardians generally.
Sir J. GRAHAM said they did not wish to take away
the power from the guardians altogether, and they left
it in the hands of the chairman and vice-chairman be-
cause they were elected by the guardians, and not of the
rate-payers.
Mr. BORTHWICK would rather adopt the proposi-
tion of the Hon. Member for Halifax than that of the
Government ; but he objected to the clause altogether,
for he thought those who paid the money ought to have
the power of appointing the person who was to audit
the accounts.
Mr. CHILDERS did not see how it was possible for
the rate-payers to appoint the auditor. He thought the
correct principle was to leave the appointment in the
hands of the Commissioners, who would be swayed by
no other object than the appointment of the best person.
Mr. WAKLEY thought that the mode devised by the
Government, for the appointment of the auditor was a
most clumsy one, and would work in the worst possible
manner. He would vote for the amendment of the Hon.
Member for Halifax, and afterwards he would probably
vote against the clause altogether. If the Commis-
sioners were to be retained at all, they ought to be made
as useful as possible, and they could not be made more
useful than in auditing the accounts.
Mr. PLUMPTRB thought the rate-payers would be
much better pleased in having the appointment of the
auditor placed in the hands of the chairman and vice-
chairman, than in the Commissioners'.
Mr. HAWES said he would support the amendment
of the Hon. Member for Halifax.
Sir THOMAS D. ACKLAND was understood to
say he would support the amendment.
Mr. R. YORKE said he could not vote for the amend-
ment of the Hon. Member for Halifax, because he was
opposed to granting an irresponsible power to the Com-
missioners, neither could he vote for the clause. He
would therefore do that which was more agreeable and
convenient to him, namely, to walk home.—(Laughter.)
After some further conversation, the Committee di-
vided, when there appeared—
For the amendment 39
Against it
Majority against the amendment
Captain PECHELL moved that Local Acts be ex-
empted from the operation of the clause.
Sir JAMES GRAHAM saw no grounds for such an
exemption, and would oppose the proviso.
Mr. WILLIAMS supported the insertion of the pro-
viso, and opposed the clause.
Mr. MUNTZ said his constituents of all classes were
oppoied to the interference of the Poor-law Com-
missioners sai-Actoned by this clause. He trusted the
Government would reconsider the matter. The objec-
ti,inz to the clause were not confined to Brighton and
Coventry, lwit were, he believed, universal.
DID DUI CQMOE thought the present clause was an
wtderhand attempt 0 tindexmine local influen4.
would make the new poor-law more offensive and objec-
tionable than it had been before, The sooner She Bill

was thrown out the better. He would support the pro-
viso of his Hon. and Gallant Friend.
Mr. SHAII,MAN CRAWFORD said his constituents
were opposed to the clause.
The House then divided, when there appeared—
For the proviso 3B
Against it
Majority
Mr. ESCOTT inquired whether a provision could not
be introduced into the clause to exempt those places from
the operation of the clause in which the auditing of the
accounts had given perfect satisfaction.
Sir J. GRAHAM said that if the Hon. Member could
point out how the object could be effected, he would have
no objection to such a proposal.
The Committee then divided, wheti there appeared—
For the clause
Against it
Majority for the clause ...., —93

Clause 29 was then agreed to.
On clause 30 being read, a desultory discussion ensued,
which was not understood in the gallery, and the clause
was ultimately agreed to.

On the reading of clause 31,
Captain PECHELL objected to the powers which the
clause would give to the parish officers. The Right
Hon. Baronet, the Secretary for the Home Department,
said that aggrieved persons had a remedy, but he (Cap-
tain Pechell) thought that the best remedy would be
" Leave us alone."—(Cheers.)
Sir J. GRAHAM said that if the Hon. and Gallant
Gentleman could point out a mode in which his object
could be carried out, the Government would accept of
his assistance.—Agreed to.
On the question that clause 32 stand part of the Bill,
Mr. P. BORTH WICK suggested an amendment as
to the auditing of union accounts. (The Hon. Member
spoke from the Opposition bench, at the table, where
his appearance caused much laughter.)
Sir J. GRAHAM thought that a double set of au-
ditors was superfluous.—The clause then passed.
Clauses 33 and 34 were agreed to without discussion.

The House then resumed.
On Mr. GREENE asking leave to sit again this
day, there were loud cries of " No, no."
Mr. DUNCOMBE complained that there had been
no notice of the House sitting on Saturday.
Sir J. GRAHAM said he had stated last night, that
the House would meet on that day.

Sir C. NAPIER said that sitting again to-morrow
was taking too much out of them.—(Laughter.) He
also begged to observe that he had been impertinently
shut out from the last two divisions. He was up stairs
taking a little refreshment, and on running down when
the bell was rung, he found the door shut. He did
think some reasonable space of time should be allowed,
for to get down into the House now was quite impossible.
Mr. DUNCOMBE opposed the sitting on Saturday.
Captain PECHELL said the Right Hon. Baronet
had gained all his points and carried all his clauses; the
most objectionable parts of the Bill had been passed, so
that he thought the House might as well sit to-morrow.

Sir J. GRAHAM said, that at that late period of the
session he must really press the House to sit to-morrow
(this day) to go into Committee on the Bill, more espe-
cially, when, as the Hon. and Gallant Member for
Brighton had observed, most of the doubtful parts of
the Bill were already passed.

An HON. MEMBER asked at what hour the Committee
was appointed for to-morrow (this day).
Sir J. GRAHAM—One o'clock, and we shall sit until
five.

Mr. WAKLEY thought it was unjust, unreasonable,
and almost oppressive, to sit this day. The Bill had
been before the House many months, and had stood on
the paper on many occasions when the Government had
either neglected to make a House, or had permitted the
House to be counted out. The Right Hon. Gentleman
had no reason to complain of the manner in which he
had been treated during the discussion, and it was rather
hard to ask them to sit on Saturday, after they had sat
every other day of the week until two o'clock in the
morning. Many of the most important clauses, those re-
lating to district schools and asylums, yet remained to
be discussed. He hoped the Right Hon. Gentleman
would not persevere.
Sir J. GRAHAM said if they did not sit to-morrow
(this day), no progress could be made in it during the
next week.

Col. SIBTHORP did not like Saturday sittings. It
was hard to call upon Hon. Members who really did
their duty by attending in their places in Parliament,
instead of appearing in full fig, attending parties and
drinking champagne—(A laugh)—it was very hard
to call upon them to give up the only day ex-
cept the Sabbath which they had to devote to their
private affairs. If the House divided, he should vote
against sitting on Saturday ; but if the House should sit,
and the Bill get through Committee, he should like to
know when the report was to be brought up, as he had a
motion on the subject.
Mr. STUART WORTLEY, although averse to Sa-
turday sittings, would yet, under the circumstances, vote
for sitting this day.
Dr. BOWRING would vote for sitting on Saturday.
Mr. WAKLEY said the special circumstances that
rendered this haste necessary was the approach of the
12th of August.—(Hear, hear, and laughter.) It was
the same every session. There was always a delay in
the progress of business until July. At the beginning
of that month they became very bustling, and toward,
the end of the mouth, as the lah of August approached,
the rapidity with which they got through business was
marvellous. _ _

Sir R. PEEL hoped the Hon. Gentleman would not
discuss this measure to-morrow in a different temper to
that which he had hitherto exhibited. He thought,
under the circumstances, it was not too much for the
Government to ask that they should to-morrow resume
this Committee. There was a great deal of business
yet before the House, and there was every probability
that the remaining votes of supply would not be obtained
before Monday week. If the Hon. Gentleman flattered
himself that he would be enabled to get away to the
country on his grouse shooting excursion by the 10th
or 12th August, ho (Sir IL Peel) could only say that
there was not much chance of his doing so.
The Committee was then fixed for this day.
ACTIONS FOR GAMING DISCONTINUANCE

BILL.
On the motion for tho third reading of this Bill,
Lord PALMERSTON said he would take that oppor-
tunity of explaining that he had put Hon. Members in
possession of what had transpired in another place, and
therefore, if there was blame to be attached to any one,
in consequence of allusion having been made in that
House to the proceedings in another place, that blame
ought justly to be thrown upon him. He had certainly
shown a copy of the evidence which was taken before a
Committee of the other House of Parliament to the Hon.
Member for Weymouth, the Hon. Member for Man-
chester, and the Hon. Member for Finsbury.
Mr. CHRISTIE said he had had the copy of the
evidence in his possession, and while reading it the
Noble Lord opposite had alluded to the circumstance,
and its existence of course then became public in that
House, and he (Mr. Christie) was therefore justified in
alluding to it.
Lord A. LENNOX thought it was the duty of the
Hon. Member to make some apology for the insinua-
tions which he had indulged in the other night against
a Noble Duke.,
After a few 'words from Mr. CHRISTIE and Lord G.
BENTINCY, the Bill was read a third time.
CHAPLAINS TO HOSPITALS (IRELAND) BILL.
Mr. S. O'BRIEN stated that he did not intend to pro-
ceed with the Chaplains to Hospitals (Ireland) Bill
during the present session.
Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL trusted the Hon. Member
would take more care in drawing up the Bill he would
bring forward next session.
The Bill was then withdrawn.
The Soup Allowances Bill was read a second time,
and ordered to be committed.
The Protection of Purchases (Ireland Compensation)
Bill went through Committee.
Mr. M. SUTTON obtained leave to bring in a Bill to
extend the powers of the Act for the appointment and
payment of parish, constables. The Hon. Member also
obtained leave to bring in a Bill to continue the Act to
amend the Laws relating to Loan Societies.
Sir J. GRAHAM obtained leave to bring in a Bill
for the better administration of criminal justice in
Middlesex.
Mr. HAWES wished the provisions of the Bill had
been extended to the ether side of the water. He gave
his general concurrence to the measure.
Mr. TROTTER said the idea of a paid chairman
had been always completely scouted by the Surrey
magistrates.
Mr. DUNCOMBE said he understood there had been
, considerable discussion among the Middlesex magistrates,
regarding the propriety of the Bill. He wished to
know if the solitary system were to be hereafter
adopted in the county of Middlesex, according to the
provisions of this Bill.
Sir J. GRAHAM said proper means would be taken
to secure the prisoners before trial. The solitary system
would not be resorted to.
Leave was then given to bring in the Bill.
Sir J. GRAHAM said he must now ask leave to
bring in a Bill of considerable importance, the chief
object of which was to define the nature and penalties of
arson, in consequence of the numerous incendiary fires
which had recently taken place in different parts of the
rural districts. The Right Hon. Gentleman then moved
for leave to bring in a Bill to amend the laws relating to
burning farm buildings.
Leave was accordingly granted.
The other orders of the day were then disposed of,
the second reading of the Criminal Jurisdiction Bill hav-
ing been fixed for Monday next.
The House then adjourned at a Quarter past One.

Ladies travelling, or temporarily subjected to any
deviation of equable temperature, will find in Rowland's
Kalydor a renovating and refreshing auxiliary, dispel-
ling the cloud of langour from the complexion, and
immediately affording the pleasing sensation attending
restored elasticity of the skin. The distressing and
unsightly varieties of cutaneous eruptions are also
promptly eradicated by the Kalydor. Spots, pimples,
freckles, discolourations, and sallowness, yield to its
specific qualities, and are succeeded by a smoothness
and transparency of the skin, giving rise to sensations
of the utmost pleasure and surprise. Being universally
preferred, its consequent great demand excites the
cupidity of unprincipled shopkeepers, who give the title
of "Genuine" Kalydor to some compounds of their own
manufacture, of the most deleterious character, con-
taining mineral astringents utterly ruinous to the
complexion, and by their repellant action endangering
health, It is, therefore, imperative on purchasers to
see that the words " Rowland's Italydor" are on the
wrapper. All others are fraudulent counterfeits !
A new telescopic comet was discovered at Paris on
the 7th instant, by M. Victor Mauvais. Its apparent posh-
tion at midnight, at Paris, on the 9th inst., was A.R..----246
deg. kt ta,r;. 8.6 sec. and Dec.=--15 deg. 55 min. 59.4 sec. ;
Frith a daily motion in A.R. of 1 deg. 34 min. 31 sec., and in
Dec. of 't) deg. 25 min. 9' sec. It is situate in the constellation
Hercules.