The Sun.
London, England, 1810-02-07 00:00:00

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the Public.. He thought he could answer for it that
it was not the, wish' of any of the parties .OcouSeil,
that the doors should, in this particular instance, be
closed 'gainst their constituents. He thought' he
might confidently say it was net the Wish' of ibeNoble
Lord, or of his Right Hon. Friend .(Mr: Canning),
that the prOceedings should hot be public. He should
therefore wish to know Why this ex.ftriinatrohslyOuld
be thought deServiug so anuch-searecy by the
,Rght
Hon. Gentletnah who enforced this Standihg Order.
Front what had been said by that 'Right Hott Gen-
lemon on the subject, he seemed to infer 'fiat it'was
likely a partial cortmannication 'of the evidence might
be made by the daily prints: • Heh.:lieVtd; however,
thata if ever impartiality. .was more conspicuous
one occasion than another, it wad in the communica-
tion of, evidence on any and ever case that • came
under their eognizaoceo The Proprietors of Pa-
pers, he helieiyd, were never i noenCed
reports of evidence; hut if they should at-
tempt such a thing, be Od not believe there
single individual of thoSe employed to
report for them who "would' obey their .oroers.
Suppose they sOotild • not 'choose to .make re-
ports
.of what passed in that House, would i; be
endured by 'the' doittiery Woulll any •one pur-
chase their papers which did not give • stomaterill; a
featurt► of intelligence ? their preclude them
from this particular subjea ? The Right Hon. Gent.
says, that the Minutes will be printed. So they were
On every investigation before, that "house; and, why
should not the co:mine:4s and arguments on theevi-
deuce be given in thisca'se as well as any tat had pre..
6e:+ed it ? In a late:debate, he had understood, that a
'question arose,whether the inquitiitorial power of that
House extended so fir as to .mike a Pt ivy Council-
lor speak when brought before them. If it were
allowed that, without the King's consent, the House
could not exaoiine a'PtivyCouncillor, there ttoold
be an end of all examination. It t hat should he the
case, how cou:d it be suite used that the Flouse could
coovey any thing to its Coustitueita ? He-was per-
fectly assured that the Ro. Hon. Gentleman who had
eufoiced,the Standing Order, did not act from any
impres;ionsor.suggestion that it w ;old be.aoreeable
to, or was desired by Ministers. He verly believed
he was one of the last m'en who.would lend himself to
such, a purpcAe) and he was therefore grotly stir
prised at ht. :petiistiog in a measure which could
not tail of being highly repugnant tO the feelings
oft be 'public. It seemed to be the genera:' wish that
the House should consider this subject. -He thought
they should not resist the feelings of the public at a
period like tae present. He begged t ) k what was
the sanctity of the sup 4s Jd Standing Orders ? In
the first place it vas 'no Standing Order oot- all' It
cet taitii.y stands among .o number Of very proper
orders; made originally by the House ; but it the
(Mr. \Tot+ would
'toast on it at a Standing Order, he (Mr. Sheri- •
clan) would, insist it -was no Standing Order. If
the Right Honourable Gentleman would have
his Standing Orders, he should have '' the• bond, and
nothing,but the bond." Here the Hon. Member read
the Order; which says, that any siraoger appearing iii
the House shall be taken
,into custody by t!?e.Ser-
jear t. If the House were determined to eto: -ice the
Older, they must do it in the eery words, and must
take them inio custody. There was atiother Stolid
ing Order to prevent gannig olitlOCg the footmen ata
tending the House. Another Standing Qider for the
Howse to meet at ten o'clock in the morning, which
might do very well fur early risers, but which he
believed Vas very generally and willingly dispeitted
with by tLe House. Thete Was auo►l ern which re-
quired all Bills to be 'read; clause Ly clause, in
the Committee, and yet reading th• in short ge-
nerally prevailed. The , SejLant at Arms was
ordered to keep a very Sloop loc.:; out for, stran-
gers. If he did so, and on any particular: day
should discover two or three, hundred in the Gal-
lary, he must have time given iii 01 to raise. his
Posse Comitatus before he could atternet to take
them into custody ; and in the inter the result
most be,
,that the stranaerS would ht ar the debate.
There was one of the Standing aders, which said,
that " No Member should introduce a siranger while
the House was si,ting," whereas it" was done every
day. In. the Courts of Justice, when any particular
case excited the public curiosity, tle people Went
in by a rush. God turbid that in the House of Com-
mons the galleries sitOuld be filled in this tumul-
tuouS manner ; but if they should, would the House
think of taking into custody those Wilo, o ere in-
troduced by• Meanbers, and in -conformity to an
older, a Standing Order? He thought that where
strangerS were introonced by_Members, they should'
be allowed to continue; except .wnere the question
was such that it was not 'proper to' be discuss:al be-
fore straogers. Such a subject hid not frequentiy
occurfed ; • and be could not conceive why in the
preseot case it should be deeinLd necessa:y to ex..
'chide strange 's.' To permit strangers to !,ear the
discussion on this subject: Would be the Most likely
way to ingratiate the,House with the public. They
had lately been used to it •day by day. When the
character of the Kitig's sun was to be investigated,
and his conduct sit trd in the stoutest mann. r, not a
syllable had been heard of the excMition ofstrangers;.
but, when the cciuduet and character of Ministers
;were to be inquired into, then it appeared to be a
subject_ too tender and delicate for public iusieelion
in that House..He thought there never was a period
in our history, in which it was more necessary for*
Parliament to conciliate the public; and, wolfing
that to be the case, he should move, '' That a Com-
mittee of Privileges be. appointed to meet to-
mon ow, in the . Speaker's Chamber, to consider
the Oder of the 25tt1of January last."

Mr. WINDHAI.4 said, he supposed it might create
surpeis that he should, on the 0-est-lit oc:a.,
speak and rote against the thotion: bioagfit
terwakt by !1 is Hen. F: tend. rl "Liw;Ner,
one Of those accidental matters in which he had
ways differed in opinion With hip FlOnOuiable Friend: