The Sun.
London, England, 1821-02-02 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

At a few minutes before four • the SPEAKER
teak the Chair, and: some. time was occupied-in
transacting public business.

TIOTLOITGH• OF GItAMPOUND.

Lord J. RUSSELL innueht in a Bill for the Disfranchise-
ment of the• Borough of Grampound, which w=is read a
first time, and the second reading ordered to stand for Mon-
day next. •

A MEMBER moved for Accounts of all Coals exported
from the ports situated on the Rivers Tyne and Wear, during
the yea' ending uu the 10th of October last.

Mr.- W. DUNDAS presented a Petition signed by ia,ooo of
the Inhabitants of the City of Edinburgh, praying for the.
restoratiorr of the Queen's Dame to the Liturgy.—Ordered to
.be printed.
Mr. KENNEDY presented a Petition - from the town of
Dalreitir,in-the County of Ayr, praying for the restoration
of her Majesty's name to the Liturgy, &c.—Ordered t& be
printed.
A similar Petition was presented from a Royal Scotch
Borgli, whose name. we could not ascertain..
Sir G. ROBINSON presented a: Petition to the same effect
from the town of Northampton; it whs signed by. 1660 per-
sons, and he could answer, from his-own knowledge,•for the
Trspectability of the signatures,. which had been obtained at
a public meeting. The petitioners, in the sentiments they
expressed, anticipated the feelings 6f the whole- people of
England. With regard to.tbe Milan Commission, they thought
that the whole proceedings gave indication of a foul conspi-
racy, and-all the circumstances Conflicted with it Called for a
rigid int-Lino%
:Mr. DICKENSON presented a similar Petition from the
Freeholders and Inhabitants-of Shepton Mallet.
• dr. P. MOORE presented, a similar Petition from a Lodge
of Odd Fellows at Monmouth; he had introduced the peti-
tion on a previous occasion, hut had advisedly withdrawn it.
to make some alterations in its fOrm..lt• isas.now re modelled,
and, as he considered it, wholly unexceptionable.
Mr. LAMBT(IN -presented a Petition from the town of
Yerchea, in Yorkshire, fur the restoring her Majesty's name
tn the Liturgy. The petitioners had desired him to say that
the inhabitants of the town, with the exception of the Post-
toast and•his family, and the persons connected with the
taxes, were unanimous in entertaining the sentiments expres-
sed in the petition. Had •t hey not been abaid of its being
too late to he presented to the Llotise, it would have received
the signatures of all the Inhabitants of the Town, with the
exceptions which they had.pointed out. •
Lard A. HAMILTON presented a Petition from the Royal
Sec-itch, Burgh of Whitehot n.•pravit.g that her Majesty's name
be restored to the La urgy.—Ordrritl to he printed.
Mr. 111:M E presented a similar Petition from Selkirk.—
Ordered to be printed. •
• Lord MILTON presented a Petition from Gainsborough,
praying for the restoratioo•of her Majesty's name tu.the Li-
tort:ye—Ordered to he printed.
Mr. HOBHOUE presented a Petition to the same effect,
from the Parish of St. tieorges,,Hanover•square.
Mr. BEAUMONT in presentioz a Petition from, the County
of Cumberland, praying, for the restoration of her Majesty's'
name to the Liturgy, and an initially into flip Mitan Commis-
sion, would state to the House the peculiar eircums,tances
tinder which the Meeting had been called. The Requisition-
ists who. assembled the county were- a body of meta of very
large property and high character. Yet they had been com-
pelled to cali the Meeting themselves. becaose when they
signed a it, qnisition to the High Sheriff, requesting him to
do so, he had, withont-assigning any. reason- tor .his conduct,
take!, upon himself to refuse a compliance with their'wishes.'
The opinions expressed by the Petitioners were precisely
those which he himself IMr. Beaumont) 'held. He ardently
hoped that an inquiry would be instituted into that disgrace-
ful Commission upon which the late proceedings bad been
founded.
Sir M. RIDLEY could not allow the Petition to be brought
up without bearing testimony to the correctness of what his
lion. Friend bad stated, with regard tin the weight attached
tothe-tignatures, for character anti respectability. As•to the
prayer of the Petition, that was mit a timeto enter WO such
a subject. it had been already discussed, and opportunities
still remained, when those discussions would be renewed.—
Bast- this he must state, . justice to the-Petitiemers--7they
asked for nothing noire than a common right, when they de-
sired;that her Majesty should lie cdosidered, and treated, as a
persnin legally • acquitted. He ova; convinced that nothing
would give satisfaction to the country. but the-dismissal of
Ministers.: . •
Mr. G. BENNETT did not know by what right -any pt r-
son, fulfilling the office of High Sheriff, could refuse to as-
sertible a County when cal-led Upon by such Requisitionists.--
An Hontiorahle Frieud of-his who:pr.:sided at tine
w Meet-
ing, afterards • stated, that the landed property let the
County belonging to the persons who called the Meeting
produced to them nn annual income of itro,oool. It was
little too mostly fir a person, whose name bad scarcely ever
te•ro 'ward ,lenore, and whose person was me more koown
than if he loot uteri in tine of tar
.dirty alleys Lrimion,
to pre-untie to set up his judgmentagaii.st that of the iudi-
vidnals who signed • the Requisition. But he suspected
that he had not sated upon his own judgment, hot under
the direction of others. The Lost! Lieutenant (the Duke of
Northumberland)-was at the head of the hole and cornier
gentry in that. Connty, and they bait been working in their
holes and throwing .up their dirt 11l e moles,. in the way of
getting up a loyal declaration. The Noble butte had said,
that fur the purpose -of such a loyal. der halation, it NV.-1%5 not
necessary to call a county meeting." ma the fact w:ns, that
they did -not want a meeting, because, their mock loyalty,
their sham loyalty, would hate been dike.) from the field by
the independence of the County; Their loyalty. was MO
loyalty to the King, lint to his Majesty's •M inisters. Tire Ho-
nourable Member remarked on passazes -of the Loyal Art-
-41: ess from Narthtimberland, and hoped that ail such pro-
ceedings would. be set at lest. They went to affix the gr:•ssest
libels upon the people.—The Petition was ordered to hr
printed.
Ln,rd•MOUNTCHARLES mused for Copies of an War-
matimi tinder a hie!) a warrant had been •iasited, and-Slat
lionise of a certain individual timid been entered linden- the
pretence of searching for illicit spirits.—Ordered.
Colonel DA VI ES gave notice of a inoti:nn for to-morrow,
for a return of the numbers of M litia new 'embodied : •also
for certain accounts of Arrearrdue in that sereice.
A new Writ was ordered for the Borough of Newton, Hants,
in the room of one of its late Mt-Wires, deceased.

Nlr. CALVE:I4:r moved for certain PApers all4l Aceo!mts
cititiccted with the Court of Requests •iu the liorutigh. o!
Stwthwark.—Ordered. _

The Accoinitant•Grorral of the Court of Chancery
ap-
peareri at the liar of tire House, with certain papers On.
sii,eted with the Court of Chancery.—Laid on the table,
Sir R. ‘I,ILSON noised for Copies of a Circular which had

been sentrtn tie alit crent nt Pure'ign C.burts, (Utica
Fore Offiet; the i9th of July, 142 Q.—Ordered.

TIIE NA'rioNAT. DEBT.

Mr. 'J. P. (;RANt moved for Accounts of the
total amduht of -the..-National. Debt .of ,Great
Britain and Irelah&-ot 'the end of every
from 1786 down toli.'2l inclusive ; distinguiSh-
ing the amount)of total Charge; upon the
Funded Debt. Also for -Accounts of the Aus-
trian and Portuguese Loans.
Mr. JAM LS said, thit—the hiinattirarafidihipre
cedented distress which weighed upon all classes of
he community, and under which,they were now
groaning, was the con,equence, of that enormous
ta.:attbn crated try:the:National Debt ; -and he
could not hittreprObate-that which he would call
the dishonest encroachirients upon the fund set
aside- 'fen- the purpose of. diminishing its-amount
How much more honourable would it be, instead
of dipping in that_ fund, to call in our outstand-
ing'clOts. Why not -demand from the Emperor
of Austria that W.hich he owed to this country ?
lie would mike that despotic gentleman pay, and
thereby prevent his hostile intentions against the
brave and independent Neapolitans. If he could
'afford to send armies of -observation into Italy,
he certainly ought to be obliged to pay' his just
dehts.L--(Hear, hear, hear !) •
Mr. GRANT explained.
Lord J. ItIJSELL gave notice that he should to-
morrow present a Petition from the Freeholders
of the County of 'Dublin upon the subject of the
outrage at Kilmainham.
'W. SMITH moved for an Account of all sums
due from the Government of Austria to that of
Great 'Britain, upon 'the loaro granted to that
Tower in the years 1795 and 1797 ; together
with an Accohnt of 411 dividends and sums ad-
vanced on the part" of Great Britain, in conse-
quence of the don-payment
,of the` above loans.
Also,- for Copies of any Agreement or Treaty
entered into between this Government and that
of Austria, in the year 1795.
After a few words from Lord' CATLtnE.% all
and Mr. Ttiacy across
,the -table, we under-
stood the motion to-be agreed to:
'FOKG-Etiv OF BANK NOTES

Mr. GRENFE'LL made some inquiries respect-
ing the final - Report of • the Commissioners ap-
pointe& to inVestigate' the methods for preventing
the forgery of 'Bank-Notes. It was impossible
to witness, and not to lament, the melancholy
executions which were continually taking. place
for the crime of forging Bank notes. lle wished
to ask the Right lion. Gentleman opposite when
the new notes-would be ready

The- CH ctr,ton of the-ExeitEou'Eu made some
observations iu reply. which Were inaudible in
the Gallery. lie was understood•to say that the
Notes. would be produced at the earliest pos-
sible season. The mostsanguine-hopes had been
entertained that they would have been ready be-
fore that time. Xvery eXertion.in the pqwer of
the 'Committee had been made to forward the
object so desirable to all.
Mr. GRENFELL did understand that the plan
for the new notes was settled in February last,
and he was sorry to find that it was still in a
state *hich wanted hurrying and exertion.
Mr.:P. GILBERT said, that the great object
was to obtain from one artist .a. note which no
other could produce. The most sanguinary ex-
Pectations had been entertained all along ;
.but
frOm time to time the specimens had progressively
improved, so as to induce them to hold back for
sonic time .longer. That was undoubtedly an
evil, bUt not so great a one as if they were not to
ailainthat perfection in'the new note Which was
confidently- hoped for and expected;

Mr. G. BENNETT considered that there must
be
_great difrictilty in- obtaining from one artist,
what others could not imitate. He whs•Willing
to allow that a note Might .be made more difficult
to imitate than the present one, WhiCh, indeed,.
afforded pecular facilities to-the forger. But he
would caution the House against entertaining the
erroneous idea that any note could be made
which it was impossible 'to imitate. implored
the House to remember, that as long as the pre-
smit.notes remained in Circulation,. the Bank held
life and death in their hunts.

. .
• Mr. D. Gir.nutur explained.— Although it
might not be possible to obtain a note that could
not be imitated, yet by rendering the Use Of heavy
machinery and other methods necessary, 'they
!night place the imitation beyond the reach of
persons disposed to forge.
• Mr. • enitWEN was of opinion that some Bank
notes had, been offered, so difficult of: imitation
that they ought to have been accepted by the
k

A Petition was presented from-the Inhabitants
of Leominster, praying for her Majesty's name to
be -re-Stored to the Liturgy.
scorcit LAW. ,

Mr. KENNEDY gave notice, that on the Bth of
February-be should move for leave to bring in a
Bill to alter the' mode of administering the Cri-
minal Law in Scotland.