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you.lOund the Opinion given in your
-answer to the, ;previous question upon the particular
tymptonis,of his Majesty's disorder; or upon general
experience in tither cases of the same nature, or
upon both ?
_A.—Upon both.

(3.—Whether in that particolar species of the
disorder his
,Majesty has Tanen into, tt has been
lound frorrrexperience, that the greater number of
persons so affected have been,cured ?
• A. 774 believe the greater number are cured. •
4.—Can you form any judgment or probable
conjeEture of the duration of his Majesty's ill-
ries ?

A.--I cannot.

Q.—Whether,' RO far as experience enables you
to:lodge of his Majesty's disorder, you think it
mote probable that his Majesty will or will nut re-
cover, so as to render him capable of attending to
public business )
think
.it more probable that his Majesty
will be capable of attending to public business.
degree' of experience have you had
yourself in this particolx species of disorder
I1:7-From my earliest infancy I have had opportu-
nities. of pbserVing complaints of this nature; as long
as I remained under my father's roof.: During the
last two.and.twenty years I have seen a great va-
riety Of cases.of this nature' in private practice.
OIL-, Whether any. amendment has already taken
place in the course of his Majesty's ,disardor, and
whether the appearance of such amendment con-
tinues at present
A.—it very, considerable, amendment had taken
"plate in his Majesty's disorder, which continued
whenl left Windsor this morning.

Council Chamber, IVhitehall, Nov. 29, 1810.
DOCTOR MATTHEW BAILLI E

CALLED IN., AND SWORN, AND EXAMINED.

Q:—You are desired to acquaint this Board,whe-

titer the state of- his Majesty's health is such as to
render him incapable of coming in person to his
Parliament, or of attending to any kind of public
business.?.

A.—l think his Majesty is at present incapable
of coming to Parliament, or of attending to any pub-
lic business.,
Q;—What are the hop :s you entertain of his Ma-
jesty's recovery ?
ihink it highly probable that his Majesty
will recover.

Q.—Do you found the opinion given in your
answer to the previous question upon the•particular
symptoms of hisiVl3jesty's. disorder, or upon gene
ral experience in other caw, of the same nature, or
upon both
A.—lfound the.opinion which I deliveied as an
answer to the second question, upon the considers.
lion of the symptoms of his Majesty, upon perceiv-
ing no Jailute in the .or his *Majesty, upon
th& soundnoss of his, 'Majesty's 'constitution, and
ufon-the resetuLlance which his present illness has
tie what I have heard of hiS for Mer illnesses of the
same charatter.. ,

Q.--:Whet her in that particular species of the
disorder his MajN.Sty has fallen into, it has been
found from experience, that the greinef number Of
personi st, atieded have been cutO ?
A.-1 believe that the greater number have re-
covered. •

(4.—can. you form any judgment or prOhab)f.:
coujeaure of the duratiOn of his Alijesty's ill-
ness ?

A.-1 -.can form no idea of. the duration of his
Majesty's present indisposition: If one considers
what has taken place in his Majesty's former illy ens
of the•safire -kind, it is probable that it way not con-
tinue ‘'ery. long. ,
Q..—Whet her, so far as experience enables you

to judge of his Majesty's disorder, You think it inora
probable that his Majesty will, or will not recot:er,
so as io render him capable of attending to public

business ?

A.--I can perceive no failure of his I\l3jes.
ty's faculties, and, therefore, I presume, it hi:
IVlAjesty should recover, that he will recover witl
the sante capacity for business as belore his preset)
•

Cl.—What degree of experience have you had,
rotit-st•lf it) this particular Species of disc der
A.—My experience I,vis not .been eXtensite.-

have been. in business for twenty years, and have
occasionally seen patients afflicted w ith com-
plaints of the- same general character as that of his
Majesty.
Q.—Whether any amendment. has already taken
place in the'course. of his Majesty's disorder„ and
whether the appearance of such amendment conti-
nues at present ?
A.—His Majesty is considerably better than he,
was ten days ago. He is certainly somewhat better
than he was yesterday evening, and perhaps a shade
better than yesterday morning.
The Report was then laid on the table, -
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER felt it his
duty to rise, for the purpose of suggesting to the
c'ons'ideration of the House the course of proceeding
which he trusted they would agree with built in adOt-
ing. He was persuaded, that while the House must
have received a melancholy impression from the un-
anithous concurrence of his Majesty's Physicians,
in answer to the first question that had been put to
them, relative to the capability of his Majesty to-at-
tend to public business, they must also have derived
considerable consolation and satisfaCtion from the re-
plies which had been made to the other questions
proposed to thoae Gentlemen. He was persuaded
that it had afforded a high gratification to those who
heard him, and that it Mould afford a high gratifica-
tion to all his Majesty's loyal and affectionate sub-
jeas, to find that his Majesty's Physicians concurred
unanimously in opinion with respea- to the great
probabili:y 01 his Majesty's rvcovery, However

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'cried the langnabf tfiest ,Genfierhen their serer
timents were near;y Witu some shades
of difference in their" expressions, they - had ait
imiforinty deckited their conlidenf expettati.on at
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hi; Majesty's recart:r some carrying the expect.
tation to as grost.,a'-41'estrim of certainty as could be

supposed to winch -human and neces-
sarily von -I point to the expeela.
lion thot joymlirheici out of the recovery ot his Ma•
jesty, a point oi ~ot lest ii'llip)rtance to the feeline
stud happiness of As Majesty's strbj, cls, was the upi
niou ot the Physicians that there was a tnir prospe&
of his Majeity's recovery in Fmii a manlier as would
enabkl him safely to if!slrrie the otre4.lion oi public

business. On this naii -fit the suojeitt the A:louses
MUM have lit-ard with peculiar nle,:tsure the: plrticp-
lar details of Dr. Her.rclen and Dr. iSaitlie.—

Heberden had declared that Iv! founded his expect=

tations of his Majesty's ri uovery on " the rresent
integr; ty of Lis Majesty's faculties ;" and, br. Beeline
" on avonsideration of the synptotns;of•
jesty's disorder, and perceiving no failure in the fa—
culties of his Majesty, and on the s,undness of his.
Majesty's constitution." Thq Hoy se.and t e Coun%"
try therefore, had oot only reason to indulge the
pleasing expeZ,-tation of his Majesty's 'recovery, bdt
to be assured that notwithstanding the advanced pe,
1104 of his Majesty's life, and notwithstanding_the

circumstances Of tile present of his Ma-

jesty being the recurrence of a twiner on•!, his Ma-
jesty's Physicians 'expressed in their stateinents acs
earnest confidence that' his Majesty would recover
in sufficient energy to discharge the high duties of
his station, and that he would, regain .a sound cons.
stitntion, and an uninaired stave of mind. The
next interesting point in the examinaticrn of the Pity.
sicians to which the House would di+ eet their atten-
ticn, was the probable duration of his Majesty's
illness, On this point the PhySicians, had given their,
opinion with a caution and a reserve which might
have been expected, and which did credit to, their
testimony. They had stated themseL es generally
to-be incapable of exactly determining. One said,
that he could not satisfactorly conjecture, but.
however uncertain the period, it would be found by
referring to the examinations of Dr. Heberden and
Dr. Baillie, that those Gentlemen were of opinion

that the duration of his Majesty's illness would not
be long. Thete was only aitut her point which it
was material to consider, namely, the progress which
the House had a right to indulge in believing, and
which indeed they were assured, his Maj;sty hada',
ready Made, To the questioos which lee..t been pro-
posed to les Majesty's Pity..icialis on a former ocea-
soin, a new qtiestion .tad been added. Ii was some
consotitioa to reflect that it was a new ques,ion. It
‘k as some conselatioo ao find toat t!,eae was a pre-
sent propriety in such a question. Untortonaidy,
at. the pefied of the examitiatioo of his Majesty's
Physicians in 1788, no symptoms of abatemeet in
his ,liitirder lu,tified the inmetora on of such a ques-
tion, as that which Mal. been proposed. The MM.,
ner in which it te,d been answered evinced its pro-
priety and necessity Die Reynolds declared, " That
his Majesty wss 'certainly .better, and that he was
full as. well, if not better, on the day before, and
Centinutal so that flaunting, than he had beau sihee he
had- had the honour of aeetidoig him." Sir '
ford was of opinion " That a considerable amend.
mem bad taken plaat; in his Majesty's health, in the
coarse of the last twenty-fourhours; that his Majes-
ty's inentai health had v,,a-y much improved,ahhough •
his b. indisposition had somewhat increased, art
iadispoaition, however, which he had reason to sup-
pose, would be soon absted." Dr. Heberden de-
Oared, " That he. thonght his --Majesty consider-
ably amended." pr. Willis, the same, Dr. Baillie,
examined the day alter the other physieitins,,exptess-
ed his canviction, """ That his Majesty was consider-
ably better than he was' ten dayS ago; that he was
somewhat better than yesterday evening, and a
shade better than yesterday morning." Let this
statement of Dr. "Baillie's be compared with that.
made on the preceding day by Dr.. Reynolds, " That
up to the time of his examination his Majesty was
well, if not better, than he had been since be
had had the honour of attending hint ;" and from
that comparison the House wouid derive the most
pleasing assurance of his Majesty's progressiveamend-
Ment., With this information before them—with
the moral certainty of his Majesty's recovery from
his present -indisposition—with the confident, belief
that that recovery would be attended by acoriaplete
restoration of the vigour of his Majesty's mind and
t he soundness of his constien.ion--7with the assurance
that a considerable amendment had already taken
place in his Majesty's bealthealihough with an un-
certainty as to the period when his complete con-
valescence might be expected—with all these feel-
iugs and impressions the House had now to deter-
mine on the course which it would,be most expe-
dient for them to pursue. They had 'to determine'
whether it would be proper for them to take,im-
mediate steps to supply the existing deficiency in
the exercise of the Royal authority, or wheth:l it
would not be more expedient under:the present cir-
cumstances, with a view also to give a facility to the-
:.speedy recovery of his adajesty, to pause .and to al-
low a further interval while as expettation--
a hope—or even a chance. appeared of , the accent-
plishmeut within, that interval of an event go.. de,
sirable., In proposing to the House these two ques-
tions for their salons considermion, he might be al-
lowed to say that their present situation was one of
extreme calamity, and deeply to be lamented. He
was aware that the U.-use had only a choice of dita
fieulties. They had only an attemative of evil. It
was for them to all 6 late a, much as possible that
evil by, their dikre.tiou and Wisdom. Under such
circumstances, he did not presume to,suppo•e that
he 6:raid offer any proposition thzit would in free
• trout criticism or objection, but he did not Oluic.
that on a view of the whole case, the House could
not atq in a way mote. consonant to their own feel-
inei4 and to the tedings at the country, than iu the

'temperate exercise of their discretion, to alio* of a
ifurther interval, during which the expectation which
had been cherished inight;be happily realised. With
this hope, he should recommend another adjourn-
I fourteen days ; feeling that that -might be
t a very important period, and that during that petioil,
:'the • accomplishment
,9f the- objean.fcir which. the
House and the-Country so ardently prayed, required
that -the- subject 4hould -be-agitated as little As pos-
kible.- He 'was free to declare, however; that at the
expiration of-the period to!Which-he Tecom,tnentled
the-House to,adjourn, unless-, such 04. amendment
s!touid. take place in ,his* Majesty's health as to
afford a reasonable hope of his speedy. recovery, he
slronid not-consider it ,consistent -with the public in-
terest- farther to delay taking Parliamentary steps to
sopply -the deficiency in the Executive ~,Governr-
irett.., Belpre he sat down,,he would ' advert to
some Objedions which- it was probable would be
niadeto his proposition. He.-had been 'given to un-
derstand that it would be urged, , that
.by adopting
that proposition, the House would aCt in, opposition
to the precedent -of • 1788, and in direliction of their
duly. With respect: to that part -of the objection
which relp.ted to precedent, he could not conceive
that any than could so misapply and misconstrue the
precedent of 1788, as to suppose that it would be
contradicted by the adoption of the present proposi-
tion..- In
.1788, the Hour proCeeded to an investi-
gation of their own, conceiving justly that they
had no-right to take any steps, but on information-.
which they had themselves obtained, Far would
it be from him to propose, a departure from such a
precedent. Were he standing there .to propose
the commencement of a proceeding, the effect of
which would be,no less than for an interval (how-
ever he might hope to, God short); to dethrone the
Monarch, he should hold .it impossible, that the
,House could comrnende such a proceeding without
an inquiry into the facts instituted by themselves, and
carried-on in the most formal and satisfactory.man-
net.. When he had used the phrase ". to dethrone
the Monarch" for a time, libwever short, he knew
that the Royal authority must be supplied, btu the re-
moval was equally to dethrone. In t7BB, the House
-had not the present satisiadory information imparted
to them. Progress of amendment then there. was
none : now a confident expectation was entertained
of his Majesty's recovery'—it probability existed that
'that recovery would'. not be long retarded ; and an
`assurauce was given-that an amendment had adually

`commenced. The cases, therefore, were not ana-
-711 the 'House were now called- upon to
-stipp:y the clt..ficiency 'in ,Oe Executive Authority,
then Inked the I,reced,2nt of 1788 would be ap-,
plicanie. But CoUtd it be contended that for the
tnerepurpose-of suspend!rig their proceedings, the
precedent 4-1788 reyoir,,d the fur anal ity of an In-
quiry instituted by thinselves ? Directly the con-
trary. The House would hive the goodness like-;

wise to {bserve, how the question in 1788 termi-
-•nated. Tney would ;find tip t afer proceeding for
three months 5 Gat after the di,cussious had ripened
- into the R. g..-ney Rill, which had passed through the
}louse of Commons, and was in a Committee in the
other House—the bare statement of the
,Lord Clian7
on,the .Ig-0i day of- Ft:b;uary, 1789, of the
amendment of his i\l,:jesty!s.healtb, was thought sut.
fici&nt to induce an adjournment fur:five or six days.

A sccond siate►nent. at a similar niture occasioned a

second adjournment, and by successive adjournments
the Parliamentary pit:redings wi re suspended until
the 9th.- of March. It thus appeared, that on the bare
statement of his M ,jesty:s amended health, without
any formal inquiry in the ficti, the measures in con-
tern platiOri at that period %ere sospen..ed ,for three
weeks. He certainty could not say-7-would‘to God
that be could the examination of the Phy-
sicians, which .had been-laid on the table by his
R'ght Honourable Friend, proved his Majesty's
health to be as much recovered as it was when Lord
Thutlow..tuade. the declaration to which he had al:.
hided. He had adverted to that occurrence, in an-
swer- to those:who might found their objections
to the • present propo,,ivion, on what they would
term precedent, to shew, that in the course now
recommended by his Majesty's Ministers, they were
not justly-chargeable with the violation of any -pre-
cedent whatever. Apprehending, therefore, that
the House were not called upon, either by preced-
ent, or by Constitutional; .do any
thing but exercise. their sound r discretion: on the
subjed, which,
.So linhappily . for. the public in-
terest, required their decision, he thought that
he could not advise a course by which their wis-
dom could be more clearly manifested, than by

moving, •
" That at its rising, the •Floute do-adjourn to this day
fortnight. .
-Mr.' WiIITBREAII;- aciver:ing to- the declaration
made by- the Right 'Hon. Gentleman, that: he ,had
heard of intended objections to his proposed' ad-
jOurnmenr, observed that he also, .(Mr. W:) •had
undentood before he came down to. the House,
that -it was in the contemplation (4' the Right. Hon.
Gentleman to propose an aJjournment, although he
had been told that the term of that proposed ad-
journment would be only half that which he now-
found the Right- Hon. Gentleman-recommended. He=
confessed; however, that not withstanding this infor-
mation, and having also heard the depositions of his
Majesty's Physicians, he still could not be .brought-
to believe, until
.this moment, that in the existing
fitufgiutt of the country, and-after the two adjourn,-
ments which had taken place, the Right Hon. Gen-
tlernan would- be hardy enough io propose a further
suspension of their proceedings. By the Report•
deltvered in by the-Right lion. the Secretary -of t
State • (and he must. here express his: satisfaction-.
that owing to the interposition-of his Hon. Friend
near him, that report h id not been-received with
out a question), -it aipeaied that afier.an interval of.
-many weeks, his Mrijesty.was still•;whollyincipable
of attending to public bhsiness. The Physicians
were also unanimous in fixing on no period as
that-of the probable termination of ,his, Majesty's
disorder. In 'what situation the- House. and the
country stood, when the King became incapable.
diScharging the .high and important duties .of.
is station,' . would -t,e best described ifi the-
ot -'Lord Camden, who, 'on a. similar.
on, Aeciared, " That the whole functions
- • Executive' Government were thereby
, would pito- a retrospea.. of
t - Aosaet ions. In -the -first instance, letters
written by his Majesiv's Ministers to
ss only who were faVourable to their
.o the House assembled on the

Ist instalT, ands. 4tljoiirried for'a fOritni-glif. On the'
15th, havfitiLagtlio assembled in full number, ano-
ther adjoarhine4 was prop?sed. Agaiost that
journiiient be--(Mr. W.}...protested, and a division
taking piece, he divided. The Right Hon. Gentle-
man-had founded his proposition of the 15-th on the
circumstance of his having just. retained from Wind-.
sor, Jud of :his being enabled to declare, " ].hat his
Majeiti seas in a state of progressive amendment.".
Agairft tfre qtigfit Hon. Getillemao had used the
satmoconScrliibry but dellistve words. Deceived,hy
thetnaence; -would the House .allow themselves to
bedeceived by. them a second time? Ii ori the 1511 t,,
the House had adopted the propositien, which he had
recommended, of adjourning from day to day, would
it. have been possible that they v.ou,ti,d now be so re-
mote from the situation in which they ought to fitsd
thernselVes; that they, would now be so remote from
the preliminary step to the removal of the existing
deficiency ? Was it not evident; that on the evening
'of the f 5 !heat the very moment that. the Right Hon.
,Gentleman was talking in that House of the " pro-.
gressiveamendthent". of his Majesty, his Majesty's
,malady had considerably increased ? Did the guile-
tins tell truth or falsehood ? It the latter, they were'
a base imposition on the Public ; it the former, they
involved direct contradictions. The Bulletin of Fri-
day the i6th declared, that his Majesty was not so
well as on the preceding day; and in that of Satur-
day the 17th, it was said, that for the last .two days
the fever of the King had been higher ; iuclechog,
consequently, in that description, Thursday the tub,-
on which day the Right Hon.- Gentleman declared
his Majesty to be in a state of progressive amend-
meht, and to which day the Bulletin of the tpth re-.
ferred, as a day on which his M ijesty had been cern-
paratively well. He might justly enter aprotest against
some of the proceedihgs of the Privy Council, and par-
ticularly against one of thequestions which, in his opi-
nion, ought not to be asked. But lie_ particularly in-
sisted on the absurdity of using the tei " progress-
ive amendment," when one of the Physicians (Dr.
Baillie) had expressly said, that " during the last ten
days,". his Majesty was better ;" necesseriiy exclud-
ing the day on which the Right Hon. Gentlettari
had declared that, his Majesty was in a state of "pro-
gressive amendment ;" and distinelly implying that
he was worse-before that period of ten days.. The
fluduation of his Majesty's disorder.was hereby ren-
dered evident, and not seeing a probability that in
the interval proposed his Majesty would be sib far
recovered as to be capable of exercising all' those
royal functions which, at a time like the present, it
was So necessary should be duly exercised, he should
on that ground alone divide the House, on the ere-
sent question,, and call for an examination of the
Physicians by a Gotninittee, as aprelutte to further
proceedings. Had the House cm 'the; 15th adopted
the adjournment from day to day, and had they then
-seen, as, they would.have seen, that insieed of amend-
ing, his Majesty's health was untrtunately.getting
,worse, would it therefore have been possible for
them to' have resisted a motion for an examination
of 'the PhySicians ? He contended, that it would
have-been impossible. With every feeling. of
.per:!
sonal delicacy towards the King, he felt the strong.
est delicacy towards the people and, towards.the Con-
stitution. When people talked of personal delicacy
in a case like this, to a Monarch so long and so justly
beloved, they ought, to be cautious how they applied
the term. He was persuaded that his Majesty would
'scorn to be told, that in-consulting his delicacy they
did not hesitate ter bring the high office, by the due'
discharge of the duties of which his Majesty had
made himself so beloved,, into disrepute. He would
ask,' could any net of authority be promulgeted
throughout these realms to which in the present cir-
cumstances obedience was due ? Was there aseat of
justice ? Was there a fountain of. mercy ? Could an
army be commanded ? Could an army- be recalled ?
Could reintorcements be sent, to Lord Wellington ?,
Could an unfortunate culprit be pardoned ? Did his
Majesty's Ministers wish to persuade the House of
'Commons to connive at the extinction of th 6 Royal
Authority ? They would not dethrone the Monarch,
but they would take-the crown from the Coostitu-
tion. To insure obedience, protection illust be in-
sured. Where was that pretection at the present
moment ? In his Majesty's Ministers? If so, they
were Regents. Could they even • legally convene
the Privy Council ?- :.Might not any other Privy
Councillors assemble that, body, and for any other
purpose ? Could even'the paper that evening laid
on the table of the House be legally produced ? Ne-
cessity certainly justified its production; but that
necessity ought to be removed the instant that the
power existed to remove it. And let the House
consider at- what a period' all this was 'occur ring !
At a time when .weeks carried a load under Which
centuries had heretofore staggered. if accident
were to befal our Cotihnanders abroad, how would
their- loss be supplied ? It an accident were to be-
fit' our Commander in Ctrief at home, how would
his loss be supplied ? If his Majesty's Ministers
were to. ad in such . a manner as to draw down
opal' themselves -the, . displeasure of that House,
bow could that displeasure be expresSed • in an ad-
dress,-to the Throne Did his Majesty's Ministers
propose rational.. measures to obviate these difficul-
ties ? No.--They contented themselves with hold-
ing out fallacious expectations of their removal.
Ever•since the examination of the, last physician,
the Balletin was unfavourable.
.It declared that
.thee King. bade passed an .indifferent night. Let the
House beware .how they permitted the keystone of
the orch-of the _Constitution to be-withdrawn. The
;Right Honourable Gentleman had- talked of " de-
throning.", 'V,
.t George I. and George If were
ahsent from, the country, and the kingly office was
executed by. Regehts, were those Monarchs de-
throned ? Would the House endure to be told dis-
tinctly, and threatened by inference; that' if they
adopted a Constitutional proceeding, they would
dethrone the Monarch ? No;" those who propos,
ed the adjournment, and those whO, probably with
the best intentions, supported it, were the hidi-
viduals from whom the Constitution would experi-
ence the, severest -injury. They would spew that
:the country could do as well without that which had
hitherto, been considered an essential-part of the
Government as with it, it they could prove, that so
long as it was probable that the King might recover,
so lung the Government could gó 'on without any
, King at all. , ht 1788, the novelly of the circum-
stances in which the country was placed, was an
apology for the omission which hadbeen 'allowed, and
tthe errors which ;bad been committed at that pe-
riod; but did the Right -Honourable Gentletuan,

ai the head of the AArnlnistrailon, of
ler the first adjournment of the House, urge a mo-1.
nie-nt'S delay in proceeding to supply the deficiency
that existed ? things: Though from vari-
ous circumstances the accomplishment of the reme-
dial measures proßosed was postponed, yet up to
the period_of. Lord Thurlow's deciaration, not as the
Right Hon. Gentleman stated it, that his Majesty's
health was better, but that he was actually in a-state
of convalescence, •up to that period the whole bent
of both Houses of Parliament was applied to make
provision for the correction of the'exist ing evil. Now;
however, they were called upon to lay on their "oars; -
and all, from a miSunderstood delicacy towards his
Majesty who, it he. deserved to be beloved as, he
was beloved, and that he did so deserve no map
Could doubt, would think the Constitution of the
Kingdom of far mor9 importanee than" his own iridi-'
villa' feeling. « But," said the Right Hi-snow-
able Gentleman, " we must absiain front dis-
cussing. this .subje&, for fear of increasing the
Royal malady." Yet in 1788 and 1789, the sub-
ject bad seen discussed -for three months with-
out any increase of that malady; and under all their
debates, the King had got. wall; 'and what was the
ditterence in the sNiation of the
.cOntry at the two
periods ? The -Right 'Hon. Gentleman at the head
of affairs in 17s8, it had- always been his fate toOP-
pose. Whatever, however, hadteen thought of his
politics, the. nation had confidence in Mr. Pitt's ta-
lents, and they were content to leave in his hands
that poser which they thought could..not be better
lodged than with him. ...But did the Gentlemen-op-
posite assume that they occupied such a space in the'
eye; bf the people as Mr. Pitt, or that they could go
on as Mr. Pitt might have gone on, without general
dissatisfaction It was unquestionably most
tunate, that after the, experience of the evils and
dangers of .1788 and 1789, some remedy had ,not
been adopted to provide against the recurrence of
such an exigency. . There had been since two•me-
lancholy instances, the one in 1801, the other. in
1805, of a derangement in the royal mind. Out of
delicacy, however--a mistaken delicacy, and in the
culpabklity uf,which he-could not deny his full share—
no step of a prospective nature had been taken. There
were many circumstances in our. situation in 1788
materiallydifferetit from the present. His Majestywas
then in the toll vigour of health ; he was not far ad-
vanced in years-•—he was accessible to all—he could
skew himself to hisloving subjects, and receive their
congratulation S—he could repair to the meta-opoli--
tan cathedial of the kingdom, there to return thanks
to Providence for his recovery, and by all these
means convince the .people that that recovery wa's
genuine and complete.. Unhappily, however, his Ma-
lesty had lately been afflicted with a calamity—ahe
deprivation of sight,, which rendered him inaCces-
bible to. his subjects,. which rendered him inacceSsi-
ble to the knowledge of passing eveoisexcept through:
the medium or others. He was advanced in years,
and was tnore in the power of other men than he
was, before. These considerations had beep last
year painfully forced 'upon the attention of the
public by his Majesty's Ministers, who 'made hii
Majesty's calamity the ground Of his inaccessibility
to his subjects. ' Let the House. seriously consider
these things, and then let those who could do so
vote for an adjournment. He could not conceive it
possible that the Right Hon. Gentleman, should üb-
tain the support of the House to his . motion. For
himself he should vote altogether against it, feeling
it an .iedispensable duty to which the House was
bound, in the first -place, to ascertain the fact of- his
Majesty's indisposition by' an examination of the
Physicians before a Committee, and'in the next
place, to take steps to supply the deficiency, if' ne-
cessary, and if not necessary, to be ready for any fu-
ture necessity that might occur. aten were the
King to be restored tsrthe full possession of his fa-
culties, and were'lle instantly to encounter the accu-
mulated,busine'ss (in which he confessed that he saw
a danger of relapse), still the House and the Country
ought to be provided with something to which a fu-
ture reference might ,be made, in order to.supply
any oecasionaVcleficiency in I heroyal authority. He
should give. his decided negative to the motion.
Mr YORKE said, the House had a .double duty
to perform.; that which was due to the person of
the King, and, that, -which was due to the safe-
ty of the People. They could not violate the
duty they owed, to the King, without forgetting'
that which they owed to the People; and doing
their duty by ihe King, they could not fail to
do their duty by the Country. There was no doubt
but that the .situation in which, they found them-
selves was one of the greatest difficulty and embar-
rassment in which they could he placed. He felt it
to be such, and had no doubt but it would be so con-
sidered by every one. Under such circumstances, tie
trusted no party feelings would interfere with their
deliberations, but that each would be aotuated by an
anxious desire to discharge, bis duty to his King and
to his Country. , There was one principle of,,attion
by which their proceedings must be regulated. That
House, in the present situation of things, was but an
anomalous Assembly. They would not be justified in
donag arty thing which was not absolutely necessary.
That which was necessary was rendered legal.by the
exigencies of the moment, but that w hich' was nut
'necessary, could not be regarded as legal. The last
Speaker , had, supported, his :argument by strongly
stating the inconveniences at preSent unfortunately
experienced by the Public. There wad no question
but that the inconveniences complained by the Hon,
Gentleman were great, but the question for them
to consider was, whether or
.not the line of conduct
which lie would recommend to them to I.ursue,
would not be likely to lead theM into difficulties of
still greater magnitude. His Right Hon. Ft lend
had truly stated that the balance of evils was great.
'limas for them todecide betweenahe inconveniences
which presented themselves, -and choose the lesser
'of the two. The Hon. Gentleman had adverted to
the proceedings of 1788. If he (Mr. Yorke) re-
membered. 'right, at that period . the proceedings
of the two Houses
.4:recopied nearly Three months,
anal did not at' last arrive' at a conclusion`.-=lt
,was true there was a difference between the posture
-of things then, and the circumstances of the present
day: The House might not be then so imperiously
cJiled- on to, adopt such. measures as .might in the
present situation of affairs become necessary.. It
might be' proper to take a more particular view of
the inconveniencies they might have to eticaunter. In
adopting the proposition of his Right Hon. Friend;
some inconveniencies might arise; but he w,ould
ask if inconvenionciea tlzigl>tt ilot also be ex2vieno.

raith
eti froth appointmentthe' of • a egenal.
he was persuaded that the person who WOal„aal
called upon to fill thesituatiota, liegent
feel every anxiety and take every care for the -°
;f'
of the country; 'yet it might be possible for gri:i
difficulty thence to arise. A Regent Might be'aird
possibility, so ill-advised, as to viraually.ovcstir,o.
theWhifile—Syqe -fif foreign anddome'c, rbe •
licy. Only arguing it in nne _point of.'oolv,,'e
avould ask if great inconveniences might not "rte
from the condu6t of a Begent (suiniosirig t°
Regent, too, but fora short time), wino wiglit gyeeat
titrn the arrangements of the sysietu of the rts-a,
ing. He would only ;i4; if lie might nOt be s°Auct.
itised as to ditier ,with respect to the-line tif on":"6,
proper Ebbe pursued in foreign affairs ? Safq'oi
lug he should fake such a, view of, the Connect;,
of this country with respeet t 6. Spain and Pott`tg"
or to recall the armies' sent to the
assistanc°
those countries, might not . great inconvetnev
ces be experienced on' the recovery of the reigitliaa
Monarch, his armies betng so recalled during'',
inc:isposition.
The 14°O. (leolleman had the'', 11,,
:luded to the situation of his 'Maje,ty's servailtb.si,
They undoubtedly were in a 'most einharraSsing
tuation : but they had only to do their, dot.Y,
do it they must, a proper power arose
,'0;
authority to relieve' them or to discharge 'll'
from the Offices- they held. - He stated ia
an 'answer to what had, been thrown otn'
the. hope that it would• give the House a Vtd,
per idea of' the situation- in which they 't-u).l,-
and of the motives by which they vtere --aet33.‘„li‘e
and, he trusted that no one would suppose his
esty's • Ministers would advise the adoption of °
j tie
measure which was not prompted by neeeslitY•
should now take some notice of the circutrista't-4,
attending-their last' meeting ain cousequence °t
rap
made b.y the Honourable Gclitle111)04
on -the- subject of the disappointment whiciti aot
been unhappily felt. Because his ?Majesty
continue to' improte from that day, eth fa.
nourable Gentleman brought forward that cirouro,
stance as an argument against- further adin'd tf
ment. 'That argument might be thought gn,,is
his Right Honourable Friend fished the House ab'„a
to adjourn on his-own statement alone This, °ueet
ever, was not the case. 16 the present iitst3"oty
proceedings had been adopted with a view
' bee 4
viate any such objection, and it had not, IV:
propbsed further to adjourn, without givini of
House authentic information as. to the i3e31.,i10t
the King.: Whatever difference of opinion b,tatt
exist, with regard to what; the preseor
of things,. might be :proper to be alone, leerei
'Certain that that report ,must laiTuid otnv ate
satisfaction, as the • amount of it was t!'imii
King' was recovering, and not only that he sva'
to be'again able to attend to the public busines'tio. se
that the duration of his: illness was not, likelY s
long, and' that at present they had the' lialirnalei,;eo
know that cAsiderable indications of arnen'oeir
had appeared. He concurred with the Hon* of'
tlemart in thinking that'if further proceecitogst, pPY
necessary, it would be proper to' pound '''')•afct)
ceedings on an inquiry of their own, and (3`,010"
inquiry only ; but he would -ask if .the esh-efor'
tion of his Majesty's Physicians on oath "j
for
the Privy Council was not a sufficient groTt,
an adjournment ? -If at the expiration of t`'," tly
clod for which it 'was proposed to adjonrierYo
-Majesty shotfid not appear in a state of
he should then be or opinion that it Intigaievef,
proper to institute such an iliquiry. He -I,'°„ontri
was confident, that the House and the "-pi'
would feel that they ought to wait sotne titneopa'
er, to observe the course of his Maiesty's altel
before they proceeded to take any such steP• ii
o. ught to wait another fortnight, "‘ to give hal00e:
jesty fair play ;" and in the interim take no tyta
but such as the imperious. necessity of t'
might require. • 00'
Mr. PONSONBY observed, that the rtigl'tt nor
Gentleman, had proposed another adjournrel:isP6
fortnight,
because the Physicians who attend
jesty had stated their Royal patient to bell-id-0E
of amendment, and gave it as their opinion:o3 sit':
ultimate recovery- was probable. He rejoioeuaoiliti
cerely 'as any man at finding there was a Prow vale
of his Majesty's -recovery. That probablii(Pe; -4°
ever,' was not the question before the 1-I°Ll!ifo.rai;
. question was, whether or not the House, s"°;iicieatig
ed, could constitutionally take that as 3 Sijkl, P-4
ground for another adjournment for a fortnig"ifer"
would now say, before the many eminent 11,1 tt°
who heard him, that such information. affc't,oatet,l;
constitutional ground for the proposed adintl'gte
He regarded the Privy Council as a body %i-
eau f
dignity, authority, and importance, but he c°litdo 'Jo
'they were not. authorised by -any. law, wrivere '
other, by any other praClice or usage w
determine on the expediency' of supplyingh'ate , j
ciency in the third branch of the Esectit'c' oattce
vernment. It was the duty of the Privy" of °II
to inquire into the capacity or incapaonYtiatis
wearer of the Crown to- exercise the fon:;", ad°,o
royalty; and they had a rigitato make ale,Ln of
of that capacity or 'incapacity to the stag dovo
realm, the Lords and Commons ; and 114v`ilatitice;
so, they had done their duty, and done
lead ey l;
they could constitutionally-- do. Who of f
heard or read the history of this oonnts%llt,'/J
Privy, Council being recognised as having 3 50.004
supply any deficiencthat 'might arise in t br',
branch of the Gun; ment ? If there were al'Y; %OP)
who could bring forward any such instance),nriati.
ed it to be immediately slated for the illtbri`cooo(),)
the House. It was the duty of the FityY, lel
he repeated,to report to the 'Lords and " )Lynn
any such deficiencY in the thitu part of I 1110
lature, and for the two remaining' branch`'`' ell,
ply the deficiency. Some of the question'
had been put. to the Physicians by the Pri`liate3)
cif he regarded as improper, and others r sti°"p
points which good sense as welt as deen,c't
; haVe prevented being agitated before tdad 01,1,
'But the' Right Honourable -Uentien:an I,%rittiteo
that no proceedings were proposed to tr,a 011
Did he call' it ho proceeding when the ri°`lrighiii,i
forbear to exercise that power which was°,.oceet'tril
the public good ? In his opinion it was'n
of'very great importance; and ana which otliattn elf
he treated lightly. With respect to the 00 oaLitat
of a Rageney, he hid 'no intention of It antcbtlet°,
urging such measure.• That however foie- io
ne-Cti&lf with the question a the question baea
was, if that,HOuse should or should not a sot
power to the' Privy Council. If the o°-