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duets of Parliament." And when do you suppose were these
eleven years? In the reign of Queen Elizabeth?—ln the reign
of Queen Ann?—ln the reign of that consul Planeus King
George 111., of whom we have heard so mueh ?—( A laugh.)
Not so; but in the reign of Charles H., at that happy period
when England was the minion and hireling of France; when
Ireland was treated as a conquest and the Irish as savages, and
when a very energetic member of the very energetic family of
Grahams was sabreing Cameronians, and dragooning Scotland
into episcopacy.—(Cheers, and laughter.) These were the anni
mirabiles of the Right Hon. Gentleman ; I am sure the Right
Hon. Home Secretary will not wish for their recurrence. But
the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Gladstone) on Friday last ad-
vanced his reasons in favour of this measure ; and I must say.
if ever a good cause was defended by a bad apology it was upon
'hat occasion, because the Right Hon. Gentleman again came
forwaiel with the old principle of "a compact and a pledge."
A pledge ! And what was Catholic emancipation ? What
seas the abolition of ten bishoprics in Ireland? What the
Charitable Bequests Bill the other day ?—( Hear.) What
You will not hear the trumpet-tongue of the Legislature, year
after year, and session after session, proclaiming toleration ;
but you pretend to be guided by the whisper of a Minister, and
the hear-,ay of an engagement as old as the eighteenth century'.
—( Laughter, and cheers.) But, upon these refinements, I
would fain address the Right Hon. Gentleman in language
made use of by a great trade Minister to a great theologian
with a theory.—(A laugh.) Colbert said to Bossuet—when
he was urging some of those arguments which eventually ended
in the revocation of the edict of Nantes—" All this belongs to
your conscience of the Sorbonne ; there is another conscience
, within you—let that speak." So now I would fain say to the
Right Hon. Gentleman—" All this belongs t ► your conscience
of Oxford; there is another conscience within you—let that
speak."---Loud cheers.) It will tell the Right Hon .urable
Gentleman to put things before him more broadly and
to the purpose ; it will tell him that an ardent
and a susceptible people, whose alliance with their
priesthood was solemnised in a time of tribulation and
misfortene, is not to be divorced from them in the firs;
dawn of a happier era.—(llear, hear.) Not open violence—
not " the vicious perfection" of the law—not arms Bilis, not
coercion Bins, not laws of mortmain by which you harassed
them, not eppres constructions by which you robbed•thein—
none of these things have been able to " put asund sr " those
whom persecution " had joined together."—( Cheers.) And
Sir, this more insidious design will also fail, which is lisping
with all the insolent euphuism of an old proprietary, that you
will disarm the Irish priest by making him a gentleman.—
( Renewed cheers.) A gentleman! that .s, something niece of an
abbe, and something less of a cure—something more of a
chaplain, and something less of a priest—one who will look
more to the patron, and care less for the poor; in a word, " a
man of the world," but. not of the next world.—( Cheers.)
This design w;11 also fail ; or, it it succeed, I pity your short..
sightedness. Elevate the Irish priest from the sphere in
which he moves, and acts, and has his useful being, and you
destroy his influence. It is because he is of the commons that
he lead: the commons —( clear.) I know that upon this matter
I am at issue with nearly the whole of the House—(No, no)—
but I know that a greater legislator (with all respect be it
said) than any in this House—that that Napoleon, of whom it
will be said that not the least of his many miracles was that
he gave back Christianity to France—has recorded his
opinion that a priesthood for the people should be of
the people.--(Gies of " Hear, hear. ') Besides, Sir, I
have myself seen the prelacy of Ireland. It was on the day
of a great solemnity at Maynooth. Plain men they were, poor
men ; the same euphuism might brand them as vulgar men.
There was about them none of that splendour and array for
which the Church of Rome is so rebuked ; no pomp, no repre-
sentation. But. lam wrong ; there was representation ; but
it was not the representation of so many thousands a year, but
of so many millions of souls.—( Hear, hear.) It is these men
that the Right Hon. Gentleman (Sir R. Peel) makes his
friends. They will remember that, notwithstanding a powerful
opposition, lie brought forward a measure of conciliation with-
out restriction and without conditions.—( Cheers.) And in
that hour of emergency and crisis, which those who look at
nations and not at Cabinets know cannot be distant—in that
hour of emergency and crisis, when your entente cordiale with
France shall fail you (as it surely will fail you), you will hue
an entente cordiale with Ireland to supply its place.—(Load
cheers.) In that day, when the Right Hon. Gentleman (Sir
R. Peel) shall be called upon to rally round him the energies
of this mighty empire—for he alone, notwithstanding al this
temporary clamour, represents its acquirements—( Cheers)—
he will be able to adopt to enemies of England, be they at
Washington, or be they at Paris, the solemn anti beautiful lan-
guage of the Noble Lord the Member for London,—" Our
Queen reigns over a united people."--( Continued cheering.)
Mr. ItEDINGTON, as an Irish Member, and a Roman
Catholic, wished to express his opinion, which interested the
religion which he professed. Whatever turn the debate may
take, the question would be of the greatest importance to
Ireland. As an Irish Roman Catholic, he wished to express
his gratification on account of the tamper, tone, and manner in
which this question had been discussed. The eloquent Mem-
ber for Canterbury, and the Noble Lord the Member for
Newark, had made speeches which ought to be models to the
peol le of this country ; they would have the effect of recon-
ciling two nations which, if they were to be united, ought to
be united in every sense of the word. Ile heard, at the
same time, opinions which ought not to weigh in that
assembly on the measures which were now before them.
Ile would now turn to the question that had been reeeatedly
put, namely—Why did not the Catholic people of Ireland en•
dow their College themselves ? And in answer to that he would
ask another qu scion, namely—ln what petition were the Ca-
tholics of Ireland left in the year 1795 ? The Catholics had
been up to that time banished from their country, and left
without religious places of worship—without property—without
anything. Pitt established the College of Maynooth in 1795,
but up to that time, all the institutions of the Irish Catholics
having been abolished, it was scarcely to be hoped that May_
Tooth should be the first to engage their attention. Let it be
recollected, that the Catholics of Ireland had supported
the Colleges of Armagh, of Turn, of Wexford, anti
many others, of the wealth anti usefulnese of which they
had been twice plundered, yet had twice endowed.—( Cheers.)
He had heard it said that the people of Ireland were idolaters,
but he would pass over that, as unworthy of notice; neither
would he stop to answer the accusation that Roman Catholios
worshipped the Virgin Mary, for in doing so he would
be attempting to defend a faith that had endured.
unchanged, for eighteen centuries. But this lie would
say, that if the English Government were anxious to
have the union of the two countries as a real union of Great
Britain aril Ireland, they would treat Ireland with common
I justice. He had heard much said about the voluntary prin-
ciple—he had great respect for rho-e who held that opiuiost,
for he would say there was more danger in paying no religion
than in paying one. But he would ray the English Govern-
ment should adopt the plan of continental countries.
and pay all instead of paying but one.—( Hear, hear.
lie telt that the Right Han. Baronet had generously come
forward with respect to this measure. But this was not the
first time that the Right Hon. baronet had bowed to a moral
necessity which he could not cunt roul. He (Mr. Redington)
remembered the time when Alembers of his persuasion
were first allowed to enter that House. At that
time the Right Honourable Baronet bowed to a moral
necessity • which he could not conttoul. He (Mr.
Redington) believed that the Right Ilon. Gentleman
had yet many more necessities to bow to. Although the Right
Hon. Baronet hal come forward in a generous manner, this
measure could only be looked upon as a triumph of those prin-
ciples which had always been so consistently supported
by the Noble Lord the Member for London.
He (Mr. Redington) could not forget old friends
for those who offered new favours. The Noble. Lord and his
Colleagues had for many years supported conciliation to Ire-
land; and he (Mr. Redington) felt that his humble tribute
was justly due to the Noble Lord.
Mr. C. BRUCE moved the adjournment of the debate.
Colonel Sibthorp rose at the same time, and there wore load
cries for the Hon. and Gallant Gentleman.
Mr. C. BRUCE said he did not wish his motie,n to stand in
the way of the Hon. and Gallant Gentleman if he wished to
prolong the debate.
Colonel SIBTHORP—I rise, Sir, to move the adjournment
of the debate, as I do not intend to speak until the Hon. Mem-
ber for Cork (Mr. Murphy) is present.—(Laughter.)
The debate was then adjourned.
Sir R. PEEL said he hoped the notices of motion for to•
morrow (this day) would be disposed of in the same way as
those of 'Tuesday, in order to allow the adjourned debate to
proceed.
Mr. T. DUN COMBE consented to postpone his motion re-
spetting the Board of Trade until Monday.
Mr. WYSE also consented to postpone a motion which he
had on the paper.
The Auction Duties Bill and the Sugar (Excite Duties)
Bill, were severally read a third time and passed.
The Museums of Art Bill passed through Committee pro
forma. •

The following Members were appointed as the Select Com-
mittee on Smoke Prevention :—Mr. Mackinnon, Mr. Beckett,
Viscount Newry, Mr. Brotherton, Mr. Hawes, the Earl of
Lincoln, Mr. Octavius Duncombe, Lord Francis Egerton, Mr.
William Henry Bodkin, Mr. Ewart, Mr. Borthwick, Mr.
Hindley, Mr. Protheroe, Mr. Ricardo, and Mr. W. Willistms.l
Colonel SIBTHORP renewed his motion for the printing
of the number of pe:itions against the Maynooth grant, with
the number of signatures attached to them, but there being
no seconder, the motion fell to the ground. The Hon. 31ember
gave notice that he would move it to-morrow.
The House then adjourned at Half-past Twelve o'Clock.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.

NEWMARKET; WEDNESDAY.

NEW MATCHES.
FunLtY.—Minotanr, 85t 101 b, agst Pine Apple, B.St Ilb.
First half of Ab.M. 100, h ft.—These horses are also matched
for the next meeting, at the same weights, to run D.M.
The LTAdy Buck is scratched for the Port.
WEDNESDAY'S RACES.

although T The
e weather
still
unseasonably
cold, has
hasa taken
afavourablea e busi-
ness-like s ,ansdi
n like assemblage to enjoymoderate enabled
day's sport, with out
thea i
drawbacks- that so completely neutralised the attractions
of the more important races decided on the first and second
days of the meeting. In order to enable several Honourable
Members, who have paid us flying visits, to get back to town
in time for the division on the Maynooth grant, the races
were arranged to commence at half-past one, and finish at
three. The first on the card was—
A match for 200 sovs. h ft. T.Y.C. Duke. of Bedford's
Minotaur, 5 yrs, Bst 101 b (Robinson), beat Lord Exeter's
Celia, 6 yrs, Bst 61b (W. Boyce).
5t04 on Minotaur. 'Von by four lengths.
Subscription Plate of 50/. for 3 yrs old, 7st ; 4 yrs, ‘st 71b3
5 yrs, 9st ; 6 yrs, and aged, 9st 21b. T.Y C.
Mr..llowe's Khorassan, 5 yrs .. ( pp
Cha le ) I
Lord G. Bentinck's All-round-my-Hat, 4 yrs .. 2
Mr. Steers' Caroline, 3 yrs 3
The following also ran :—Lord Exeter's Celia, 6 yrs (W.
Boyce), and Lord Albemarle's Delapre, 4 yrs (Whitehouse).
Betting, 7 to 4 agst All-round-my- Hat, 3 to 1 agar Celia
taken),, to 1 aigst Delapre, and 7 to 2 apt Khorassan.
11-round.my-Hat -and Khorassan laid in front all the way;
the mare leading at a good pace half wav up the cords, where
site was headed, and atter an indifferent race was beaten by
a length, Caroline a moderate third.

Sir W. W. Wynn's Stoker, Bst 71b (Mann), beat. Lord
lluntingtield's fby Muley Moloch, out of Barbelle, Bst 41b.
1). M. 100, h ft. 7t04 on the filly. Won easy by a length.
The Column Stakes of 50 sow). each, h ft ;for three vrs old
_ _

colts, Sit 711); and fillies, Bst 41b. (27 Subs.) - -
Mr. Wreford's Winchelsea, by Camel (J. Howlett) 1
Colonel Peel's Hersey, by Glaucus 2
Lord Exeter's Adrianople
The following also started:—Lord Albemarle's Tisiphone,
Mr Batson's fby Plenipo out of Acacia, Lord Chesterfield'a
Javelin (allowed 31b), and Lord Miltown's Duc au Durras.
... .

2 to 1 'on Winchegea, 4 to I ag,st Javelin, and 8 to 1 atot
Due au Durrag.—Won in a canter by six lengths.

BETTING ON WEDNESDAY EVENING.
CHESTER CUP.
S to 1 agst tietniseria (taken)jls to 1 agst The Era
S to 1 agst Cataract (taken) )15 to 1 agst Ould 'reload