The Sun.
London, England, 1845-02-07 00:00:00

POOR-LAW UNIONS.

Mr. MANNERS SUTTON moved that a Select Com-
mittee. be re-appointed to inquire into the administra-
tion of the law tor the relief of the poor in the unions
formed under the Act 22 Geo. 111., c. 3, s. 83, and to
report to the House their opinion whether it was ex-
pedient that the said union should be maintained.
•Mr. SHARMAN CRAW EORD did not rise to give
any opposition to the appointment of the Committee, but
he thought the appointment of it was completely useless,
and an entire waste of time. If the Government had
determined to abolish the Gilbert Unions it was better
to save the waste of time which would be consumed in
making the report: Circuinstances had occurred
at Rochdale from which it would appear that
the Government were determined no longer to permit
such relief in any place. The people of Rochdale had
been accustomed to administer to the necessities of their
own poor under the Select Vestry Act, but the Corn-
, missionera determined that they should do so no longer.
But when he saw that this law was pertinaceonsly
persisted in in the borough with he was connected, if it
were the opinion of the Government that no other
poor-law administration should exist in England but
that which was provided by the New-poor-law Act, he
id not think it necessary that they should go into a fur-
therinquiry into the Gilbert Unions. There were essential
difference between the Gilbert Act and the new Poor-
law Act. The Gilbert Act gave partial relief, while
the Pool-law Act gave no relief at all,' unless the par-
ties relieved were reduced to the lowest circumstances.
He protested against the latter law, and the
.people of
England looked upon it as a violation of their rights.
—(Hear, hear.) There was a contest going on on
this subject between the people and the Government.
It was a desperate contest, and one which the people of
England would not easily give up. He could not, there-
fore, avoid taking that opportunity of calling the atten-
tion of the Government to the necessity of considering
the new poor-law. It was a thing which could no linger
go on. 'I. he Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary for the
Home Department had heard from several Hon. Members
the other night, that had been the result of this law. It
had. produced lamentable distress, and it ought to be
in some way amended— If the Government, however,
were determined to go through with the law, they need
not go into any further inquiry on the Gilbert unions.
It was a measure of deep importance—it was a ques-
tion beyond all opinion of importance. It had been
stated that loyalty existed in this country. It was certain
however, if this law were persisted in, i,t would be on-
possible that this loyalty could be continued. Under
those circumstances he called upon her Majesty's
Government to declare their intention with respect to
the parishes under the Gilbert Union. If it was their
intention to continue the Gilbert Union, why not
say so at once, and not continue the inquiry,
which appeared to produce no benefit? Be would
admit that it was impossible there could be any mode of
relief which would not be liable to abuses, and no doubt
some triffling abuses did exist in the Gilbert unions, but
they were not so flagrant as those of the New Poor-law.
Yen inquiry were to be made into these unions, it was
only fair that there should also be an inquiry into
the effect of the New Poor-law, and the case would
he put fairly before the nation which was the best means
of relief, as well as the evils of both. He had had the
honour of coming up to the Right lion. Baronet, the
Secretary for the Home Department, on a deputation
from Rochester. They stated to him what had occurred
there, and that out of 22,000 ratepayers, they were all
against the New Poor-law with the exception of nineteen.
The Right Hon. Baronet received the deputation with
his usual courtesy, and the answer he gave was, that he
had no power to interfere with the law. Now, if he had
but the power to controul the Commissioners, he (Mr.
S. Crawford) felt disposed to give it to him. He could
not avoid making those few observation, and if it was
necessary to make further inquiry into the subject of
the Gilbert Unions, he thought that the New Poor Law
ought to be considered as well.
The motion was then agreed to, and the following
lion. Members were appointed to serve on the Com-
mittee :—Mr. Barneby, Capt. Pechell, Mr. Thcs. Dun-
combe, Sir Robert Heron, Mr. Colville, Sir William
Heathcote, Mr. Be,:kett Denison, Mr. Wrightson,
Viscount Barrington, Mr. Manners Sutton, Mr. Strutt,
Viscount Marsham, Mr. Labouchere, Mr. Wakley, and
Mr. Protheroe.

POOR-LAW COMMISSION.
Colonel SIBTHORPE, seeing the Right Hon. Baronet
the Secretary for the Home Department in his place,
would renew the motion which he had made in
the early part of the evening for the returns which
had been ordered to be made in the month of May
last, but which had not yet been made as to the occu-
pations of the Poor-law Commissioners. The return
had then been assented to, but be understood that the
Right Hon. Baronet now intended to object to it, and
would assent only to make a partial return on the sub-
ject. But unless the Right Hon. Baronet could give
some satisfactory reason for objecting to that to which he
had assented in the msnth of May iast he (Colonel Sib-
thorpe) should certainly take the sense of the House on
the subject. He understood that the Right Hon. Baronet
considered that there would be some difficulty in making
the return, but there was no roster kept of the number of
days on which the Poor-law Commissianers were employed
The Right Hon, Gentleman, as he understood, said that
there was no roster kept of the number of days which he
was employed at the Home-office ; but he (Colonel Sib-
thorpe) did not wait for any return of the number of
days which the Right Hon. Gentleman was employed,
because he believed himself, and it was the general
opinion of the public, that there was no public
officer more attentive to the duties of his office
than the Right lion. Gentleman.—(Hear, hear.)
He did not say this out of flattery—(A laugh)—but he
believed it was generally admitted that no one had
given greater satisfaction as Secretary of State for the
Houle Department than the Right Hon. Gentleman.—
(Hear, hear.) He did not want any roster of the num-
ber of days the Right Hon. Gentleman was in his
office, because he believed that the Right Honourable
Gentleman performed his duties faithfully; but he did
not belive that the same could be said of all officials.
Now, with regard to these commissioners, he had no
opportunity of knowing if they were properly employed
or not. He should like to see a statement of where they
were. They might be in improper places for anything
that appeared to the contrary, and he had no oppor-
tunity of knowing whether they did or not, and he should
like to have an opportunity of knowing.—(Laughter,)
He wanted to know where they were, and what they
were doing ?—(Laughter.) Now, unless the Right Hon.
Baronet would assure him that he had no suspicions
with regard to them, he must have the same return which
he had before moved for, and the •Rigtit Hon. Baronet
was bound to furnish to the House and the public wby
he now refused what he before had assented to.
Sir JAMES GRAHAM said, what the Hon. and
Gallant Officer had stated was true, that towards the
end of last session he thought it his duty to make this
motion, and that he (Sir James Graham) did not oppose
it. But I submitted to the Hon. and Gallant Officer that
with regard to the first of these two questions, there
would be a great difficulty in making any return,
With reference to the attendance of- the Chief Com-
missioners, no roster was kept any more than of the
attendance of the Commissioners of Customs or Excise,
or of the Revenue Board, and without such a roster
it was hardly possible to give in detail the return the Hon.
and Gallant officer desired. At the same time he was bound
to state of his own personal knowledge, that no public ser-
vants were more attentive in the execution of their
duties than the Poor-law Commissioners. It would be
for the satisfaction, of the Hon. Gentleman or the House,
that as far as possible this information should be
afforded. So far from resisting it, he would do
all in his power to furnish it. Could it be
considered as any reflection on the Poor-law Commis-
sioners, he should have felt it his duty th have resisted
the motion, but as he did not think this could be the
case, he should. grant the return.

Mr. F. FRENCH said that in the appointment of the
Committee of Inquiry the word "operation" had been
omitted. Ha begged to ask the Right Hon. Secretary
for the Home Department, whether this had been done
designedly, and if not, whether there would be any ob-
jection to bare the omission corrected ?

Sir J. GRAHAM said that, although it had been
stated by an Hon. Member just now, that suspicion at-
tached to every thing that was connected with the poor.
laws, he would answer the Hon Gentleman who put the
question to him, that he had not been aware of the omis-
sion to which the Hon. Gentleman referred. But if it
would be any satisfaction to the;Hon. Gentleman, he
(Sir J. Graham) would not objection to the insertion of
the word " operation."

The returns were then ordered.
RAILWAYS.

Mr, YOUNG, according to motion, moved a resolution
to suspend, for the present Session, Standing Order No.
103, " That all Petitions for Private Bills be presented
within twenty-one days after the First Friday in every
Session of Parliament," to fix the days for receiving
Petitions for Private Bills.
Mr. ENTWISTLE objected to the suspension of the
standing order. At the same time he wished to explain
that he was mistaken when he said last evening that
the preliminary expenses for preparing a railway Bill
was only about 30/, or 401. He found that the cost
of printing only was of that amount. There
was other expenses considerably above that sum.
The Board of Trade had made their report against cer-

tain parties, and they would be enabled to delay printing
their Bills until they had ascertained the reason on which
the Board of Trade had grounded their decision. The
parties, therefore, rejected by the Board of Trade, would
be in a more favourable position than those in whose fa-
vour the Board of Trade had reported, because they
would be enabled to draw up their Bill, embodying
clauses to meet the objections which the Board
of Trade had entertained to their plans. On that
account he would object to granting so much time as
had been asked to enable them to draw up their Bill,
after the reasons of the Board of Trade had been given.
He had very little experience in that • House, but he
had codsiderable experince out of it ; and he could as-
sure the House that, from the very day in which the
case was placed in the hands of Parliamentary agents,
that their expenses commenced. All those expenses the
Company in whose favour the Board of Trade reported
had to bear, while the Company against which the
Board of Trade reported only had to bear the
expense of getting up and printing their Bills.
The SPEAKER having put the question,
Mr. ENTWISTLE said he should, move that the
standing order with regard to petitions should not be
suspended.
Lord GRANNYILLE SOMERSET said (as we un-
derstood), it was indispensable that the original motion
should be agreed to, in order to carry out the resolution
of last session, for the appointment of the Board of
Trade.

Mr. HODGSON HINDE thought it had been clearly
made out that it was necessary to take some step of this
kind in order to prevent injustice from being done to those
coapanies against whom the Board of Trade had re-
ported. Great injustice would he done if parties in
whose favour the Board of Trade had reported were
obliged to delay going into Committee till the adverse
Bill was in a state of such forwardness as to be com-
mitted also. He therefore hoped that the parties
wr a were promoting an adverse Bill should be
obliged to bring their case before the Committee,
though they were not in a state of forwardness
to entitle them to come before the Committee. If some
such plan was not followed, the promoters of an adverse
line might delay until the last moment, so that parties
who had a bona fide intention of proceeding with thair
Bills might be delayed for three weeks,' wich, at'the
commencement of the works on a line, would be equiva-
lent tO six months in the opening of a railway. He
hoped, therefore, that his Noble Friend would give his
attention to the subject.
Mr. ENT WISTLE then withdrew his amendment,
and the following rerolutions were agreed to

1. Resolved—That this House Will not receive any
petition for any Private Bill, other than a Railway Bill
on which the report by the Railway Board has not yet
appeared in the Gazette, after Friday, the 28th day of
this instant February.
2. Resolved—That no Private Bill, other than a
Railway Bill on which the Report by the Railway Board
has not yet appeared in the Gazette, be read the first
time after Friday the 28th day of March next.
3. Resolved—That this House will not receive the
Report of any Private Bill, other than a Railway Bill,
on which the Report by the Railway Board has not yet
appeared in the Gazette, after Friday the 30th day of
May next.
4. Resolved—That this House will not receive any
petition for any Rail% ay Bill, of which the report by
the Railway Board has not yet appeared ia the Gazette,
later than the twenty-first day after the day of the pub-
lication of such report in the Gazette.
5. Resolved—That no Railway Bill, of which the re-
port by the Railway Board has not yet appeared in the
Gautte, shall be read the first time later than the
twenty• eighth day after the day of the reception by this
House of the petition for such Railway Bill.
6. Resolved, That this House will not receive the
report of any railway Bill, of which the report by the
Railway Board has not yet appeared in the Gazette,
later than the eighty-fourth day from the day of the
reception by this House of the petition for such Railway
Bill. And, that the said resolutions be printed.
The House then adjourned at six o'clock.

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NEW PROJECTED RAILWAYS.
(From the Gazette of Friday Evening.)
RAILWAY DEPARTMENT, BOARD OF TRADE,
WHITEHALL, FEn. 7, 1845.
Notice is hereby given, that the Board constituted by the
Minute of the Lords of the Committee of Privy Council for
Trade, for the transaction of railway business, having had
under consideration the following schemes, for extending
railway communication iu South Wales and Herefordshire,
viz.:—

The South Wales Railway,

The Monmouth and Hereford Railway (Great Western),
The Newport and Pontypool,
The Gloucester and Dean Forest,
have decided on reporting to Parliament in favour of the
South Wales Railway,
Monmouth and Hereford (Great Western),
Newport and Pontypool;
and against the
Gloucester and Dean Forest Railway :
and the Board having further had under consideration the
following schemes, for extending railway communication to
Shrewsbury, viz. :

The Shrewsbury, Wolverhampton, Dudley, and Birming-
ham Railway,
The Shrewsbury and Wolverhampton (Grand Junction),
The Shrewsbury and Stafford,
have decided on reporting to Parliament in favour of the
Shrewsbury, Wolverhampton, Dudley, and Birmingham;
and against the
Shrewsbury and Wolverhampton (Grand Junction),
Shrewsbury and Stafford:
and the Board having further had under consideration the
Waterford and Kilkenny Railway scheme,
have decided on reporting to Parliament in favour of the
said scheme.

DALHOUSIE.

C. W. PASLEY.
D. O'BRIEN.

G. R. PORTER.
S. LAING.

THE LONDON GAZETTE:
(THIS EVENING.)

LORD CHAMBERLAIN'S OFFICE, FEB. 6, 1845.
Orders for the Court's going into mourning on Sunday
next the 9th instant, for her late Imperial Highness the
Duchess of Nassau, niece of his Majesty the Emperor of
Russia, viz. :—The ladies to wear black silk, fringed or plain
linen, white gloves, necklaces, and earrings, black or white
shoes, fans, and tippets. The gentlemen to wear black,
full trimmed, fringed or plain linen, black swords and
buckles. The Court to change the mourning on Thursday
the 13th instant, viz. :—Tbe Ladies to wear black silk or
velvet, coloured ribbons, fans and tippets, or plain white, or
white and gold, or white and silver stuffs, with black ribbons.
The gentlemen to wear black coats, and black or plain white,
or white and gold, or white and silver stuff waistcoats, full
trimmed, coloured swords and buckles. And on Monday,
the 17th instant, the Court to go out of mourning.
WHITEHALL, FEB. 1, 1845.
The Queen has been pleased to grant unto George Hamil-
ton Gordon, Earl of Aberdeen, R. T., the office or place of
Keeper of Green w•ich Park.
THE PRINCE OF WALES COUNCIL CHAMBERS,

SOMERSET-HOUSE, FEB. 5, 1845.
Francis Rodd, of Trebfirtha- hall, in the county of Corn
wall, Esq., has this day been appointed Sheriff for the County
of Cornwall.

WAR-OFFICE, FEB. 7.
_ _

let Regiment of Life Guards—Cornet and Sub-Lieutenant
G. H. R. C. Viscount Seaham to be Lieutenant, by purchase,
vice Sutton, who retires ; the Hon. D. C. F. de Ros to be
Cornet and Sub-Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Viscount Sea-
ham, Feb. 7.

Ist Dragoons—Lieut. W. B. Barttelot to be Captain, by
purchase, vice Yates, who retires ; Cornet A. H. De Trafford
to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Barttelot ; G. H. Little-
dale, Gent., to be Cornet, by purchase, vice De Trafford,
Feb. 7.

10th Light Dragoons—Cornet C. F. Surtees to be Lieu-
tenant, by purchase, vice Leigh, who retires ; W. M. War-
drop, Gent., to be Cornet, by purchase, vice Surtees, Feb. 7.
13th Liht Dragoons—Major-General the Hon. E. P.
Lyon to be Colonel, vice General the Hon. Sir H. G. Grey,
G.C.B. deceased, Jan. 29.
Ist, or Grenadier Regiment of Foot Guards—Battalion-
Surgeon J. D. Wright, to be Surgeon-Major, vice J. Johnson,
who retires upon half-pay; Assistant-Surgeon F. C. Huth-
waite, to be Battalion-Surgeon, vice Wright; Assistant-
Surgeon, C. Nicoll, from the Staff, to be Assistant-Surgeon,
vice Huthwaite, Feb. 7.
Ist Regiment of Foot—Lieutenant J. Doughty Windham
to be Adjutant, vice Wetherall, who resigns the Adjutantcy
only, Feb. 7.
sth Foot—Brevet Major M. Macgregor, from half. pay
Unattached, to be Captain, vice W. P. Jones, who exchanges,
receiving thedifference, Feb. 7.
10th Foot—Second Lieutenant A. H. Quartley, from 87th
Foot. to be Ensign, vice Patterson, who exchanges, Feb. 7.
22d Foot—Ensign J. G. P. Holbrook, from 54th Foot, to
be Ensign, vice Caulfied, who exchanges, Feb. 7.
45th Foot—Ensign R. A. T. G. Colleton to be Lieutenant,
without purchase, vice Hon. A. W. Chichester, who resigns;
J. S. Kennedy, Gent., to be Ensign, vice Colleton, Feb. 7.
54th Foot—Ensign F. W. T. Caulfield, from 22d loot, to
be Ensign, vice Holbrook, who exchanges, Feb. 7.
59th Foot—Captain C. Lee, from half-pay unattached, to
be Captain, vice E. H. Poyntz, who exchanges, Feb. 7.
60th Foot—Lieutenant W. Hutchinson, from 71st Foot, to
be Lieutenant, vice Meason, who exchanges, Feb. 7.
71st Foot—Lieutenant W. F. L. Aleason, from the 60th
Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Hutchinson, who exchanges,
Feb. 7.

77th Foot—Captain T. G. Egerton to be Major, by pur-
chase, vice Nelley, who retires; Lieutenant W. Forbes to be
Captain, by purchase, vice Egerton ; Ensign H. R. Carden
to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Forbes •, T. Elliott, Gent.,
to be Ensign, by purchase, "vice Carden, Feb. 7.
87th Foot---Ensign F. T: Patterson, from 10th Foot, to be
Second Lieutenant, vice Quartlev, who exchanges, Feb. 7.
MEmoßANDum.—Lieutenant itoyle Meredith, on half•pay
16th Foot, bas repaid the difference he received on exchang-
to half-pay, on the 24th of October, 1822.
OFFICE OF ORDNANCE, FEB. 6.
Royal Regiment of Artilley—First Lieut. T. de Winton
to be Second Captain, vice W. F. Crofton, retired on half-

pay ; Second Lieut. G. J. I'ower to be First Lieutenant, Tic
de Winton, Feb. 1 ; Second Lieut. C. G. Arbuthnot to be
First Lieutenant, vice Cooper, resigned, Feb. 4.
C. inniissions by the Lord-Lieutenant of Buckinghamshire.
2d Regiment Royal Bucks Yeomanry Cavalry—W- F-
Farrar, Esq., to be Captain, vice Talbot, resigned, Dec. '2B,
1844 ; Cornet F. Bartlett to be Lieutenant, viee Harding, re-
signed, Jaw. 20, 1845 ; R. B. Harvey, Gent., to be Cornet"
Vice Bailey, promote°, Dec. 28, 1844.
WHITEHALL, JAN. 7.
The Right Honourable Sir Nicolas Conyngliam Tindal,
Knt. Lord Chief Justice of her Majesty's Court of Com-
mon Pleas, has appointed Adolphus Frederick Minns,
of Windsor, in the county of Berks, Gant. to be onentse of
the perpetual Commissioners for taking the acknowledgm
of deeds to be executed by married women, under the Act
passed for the abolition of tines and recoveries, and tor the
substitution of more simple modes of assurance, in and for
the county of Berks, also in and for the county of Bucks.
WHITEHALL, FEB. 3.
The Lord Chancellor has appointed H. Oldham, of the
city of Dublin, Gent., to be a 111 aster Extraordinary in the
High Court of Chancery.
iiANKRUPTS. •
John Beard, builder, Deptford, to surrender Feb. 14, at
one, and March 28, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy.
Whitmove, official assignee, Basinghall-street ; Govett,
Upper North-place, Gray's Inn-road.
George Haywood, bricklayer, Luton, Bedfordshire, gob.
14, at half-past one. and March 21, at twelve, at the Court ot
Bankruptcy Belcher, official assignee, King's Arms') erd;
Dyne, Lincoln's Inn-fields ; Waring, Luton.
William Henry Colt, grocer, Long Melford, Feb. Collett,
and
April 8, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. F
official assignee, Basinghall-street ; Raimondi and Gendq'
South-square, ray's Inn ; Dowman, Sudbury.
Samuel Rugg, carpenter, Chamberlayne-town, Feb. 18,
at two, and March 20, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptct
Graham, official assignee, Coleman-street; Paterson, 169
verie-street.
James Bradshaw, coal merchant, High-street, CBOlO7
Coti
town, Feb. 18, at one, and March 26, at twelve, at the tr.
of Bankruptcy. Bell, official assignee, Coleman-°ra°strra.
buildings ; Scaddington and Son, Gordon-street, 9.
square.
Samuel Tavener, bricklayer, Sovereign-mews, Paddint-`"n,"
u
Feb. 18, at half-past two, and March 19, at one, at the
atreet(A".
of Bankruptcy. Johnson, official assignee, Basingha-
Chisholme, Cook's-court, Lincoln's-inn. at
John Richardson boot-maat two,keat the Court of Br, Fish-street- bill, Feb. lankrul,-
twelve, and MarchlB, ~
Edwards, official assignee, Frederick's-place, Old Je"'
King, Saint Mary Axe.