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London, England, 1810-03-03 00:00:00

Ist tot its-institution. But he would leave.it to Mi-
nit , 'A-:o L.at:lle these jaernigcontradians iO. He
_. • •
- w old only call union I;eir_Lor'clShips, not‘ to allow
tA,-tai ,to arnx' to his'Majesty'es• name the.stigma of
such glaring inconsistencies. Let there belong to
• the real authors ot !hen,. Let_thern be brought
' hoine •to those• who could have placed his MajeSty_
-In so awkward a point -of view. ,This was the aim
i•ind object of the motion. 1,-e -had to sub-mit to theta-
Lordships, and he :ihould not :detain the HoriSe'
• :longer than while Address to
his Majesty,•_pravin-T iVlajetity would be graei-
.
• onsly pleased to rmitorto thatHouSe who was: it that
, Othised s-iy in -I):.'s answer to the 'Ad-
dress of the Cityof 'hondofi; that there were no
- groun43 for inquiry •into. the condiret of the Coin-
' mander of the expedition ,to. the Schi--Ht,
The Earl of LIVERPoOL spoke in reply:
,He felt.
no hesitation in affording the. -Noble Marquis-that
infoirnation .tivhich- it, stewed to be, the object of his
notion to obtain..
.If the Noble Nto-quis ,lien
de-
sired to 4e informed who had advise d his Majesty to
return the answer in question to the Address -of the
City of London, he Would retrdily led him that it
was his Majesty's Mintsters--that all h'is Majesty's
Ministers, with the exception of the Noble_Lord
(Chathan-t),:were perfeolly.ageeed in the propriety
of that ansvier, and that all concurred
lug his Maiesiy to return that answer. ,Froinwhat-.
-ever clegree of responsibility therefore attached tai
- that advice, Ins Majes:y's Ministers did' pot shrink
-they here pleaded, guilty to the charge. lint"
, strut now-centering- into the merits or demerhs of the
for th,t.! discussion -of wlfo.h there Would.
-• titiother °poor ttinities, 'he should, content hiinself
with observing that the coanparison by the,
Noble Marquis between the two events; of the ex-,
pedition to the Scheklt and the convention of
tra was not just ;—and that the failure of, the expo.
ditki4n-to the Scheldt atoT_ from one chief caust, a
depantirefrornythe original Plan laid down-foe the
coridulet of that'expcdoton.: That cieparture was
• prtmap'S -no one instance iMputable7-as- --blame to
the Commanders of the expedition. .It gew out of
necessity--a'necesiity ithposed_hy the elements, by
- the winds :and waves, which no human foresight
• could', provide agal,rist,
,which no human. power
• coul4,eontroul• These unforeseen andruhcootronl-:,
. able obstacles. compelled a ilepartore from. the origi-
nal plan Of the-enterprise,- and that departure in-
volved itsliiisca:Jiage„ There was. on no side aay
Wilful negle6l or yvantof cordial co-operatien. • lhe
two, services vied with et eh other iii activity and
.zeal. . But inipeditheitts arose, which rendercd every
effort, unavailitig ;the great and ultimate obj6ll of
the expedition. Here, too, would be:found the dif-
ference between the present-case and that of the coo
ventpg. of Cintra. Here_the tivo -.services, the navy
_ and the at my, were ,to co7operate _in the execution.
of the plan. Til-ere 'the army r. ly was cooc,erned.
it tvas quite unusual, he,believed, - wholiy unorc-
Cqiented, 19y a MI6-tory-Inquiry to be. instituted into
a conjoined service. • Up , to the tun!.., when the
• answer was given to the. addres3 of the City of Lon-
,- , /don, Ito charge had been made on any side to make
an inquiry, or on which to hinge any sort of
- tiffation. On' this -ground the propriety of this
rs
an-
saver rested. Tbecase was, quite
.ptherwise,. as, he
had already stated, With,regard tO the convention of
Cintrit.- The bla.me, wharetrer of blame was. iru-'
puted, most rest wit..h the service engaged ih it. • "He-
coukt not 'therefore; comprehend the justice of, all
• • the strictures which the Noble had made.
• on the cnaiduct of his Majesty's Government. As
io advising the answer which his Majesty had Made
•to the City,of London's address, be had confessed
• that" Mini-sters 'were responsible, and from that re-
Sponsibil ity theyFAvonict- n(st be found to shrink. _
Lord ROSSLYN went into
,a minute examination'
... of the dispatches which had been sent home at dif-
ferent periods of the expeditiop, by the Naval and.
Military COrnioanders ; anti from '•a full view of
than, he did not think-it could be justly inferred
that ii y:Lis ever the intention of Lord. Chatham to
cast any imputation whatsotteer on. the conduct of,
- Sir R. Strachan. -There was some variation in the-
papers:now,on the "table from these dispatches, par-
- tic:Jar-1y that of the 't
Ith August, and he wished
- to ,know -froth wheoce the alteration proceeded.
•
- Lord AITILGRAVE said across the table, tliat what
alteratihns appeared in- the papers on the table was
in —consequence of,a conversation wicich he had
with So- Richard Strachan since his- return from
Wareneren inn which conversation was explained
, what he did not- at first perfehlly understand in the
dispatch. •
, •
Lord ROSSLYN,: tOritintiation, observed, that
• the 'Same opportunity of explanation should have
been. affolded to.'tord Chatham, by which, what
•-•
- appear4l tci reflex on that Noble Lord? in the dis-
Patch of the a itli August,' might'have, been r&
vmoved. On-the. same ground- ale had to object to
the-dispatcheS ot the 2211 and 27th August : p trt of
those dispateheahad been concealed; one of them
wa4 a.letter which Sir _Richard. Strachan slid not
iniencl!should be published; but *heti it- was pub-
- . nOthing 'should: have been withheld - that
_ cr old have explained theconduct'of Lord Chatham,
or the circumstaoces that influenced and guided that
'c-oatrud. He was confident that there was no Wish
car inreotion on the_part of LOrd Chatham to retied
'oe,the-cenduct-',Of 'Sir Bichatd Strachan; as little
was there 'on the part of that gallant Admiral to
ioi,:ete blatnd to the cou'dq't of that Noble'Lord.
•Nehl:er could lie • ()Ting himself to belieVe that arty
▪-• will: 0r disatisfaCtion- had been excited 15ctween
the two-ser i:ices. -God forbid there should. .There
. was much no doubt•to h:e lamented in the,circum.
S.arices•andlailure of the Ekpedition td the Scheldt.
. could he sufficientlylament the number of
mien who had Obavailingly fallen victims 'to
-. tit ,ease , in that unfortunate‘ ri rvice—but these cola-
, amities would be nothing in his mind compared with
rt, misfortune of-allyill-hlood being engendersd,be-
t ,:en the army and 'the navy—but his mind was
L ,pctly.freo from such an apprehension.' The good
the4irif, the honour, the patriotism which
.'chinilterisci both services, e aneternal-pledge
t mutual._ ekeetn _and respect for each' other.
._ir en whole, „he could not but think the
,Earl of
(;HliLlin-,.vakseve,rely us'ed. From the beginning,'
1--pocoiop was. assailed .oh all sides:, He wits
:,‘ajec.t pt-the,dakly attaas of the public prints,
hi( .h se:nt-_d to vie W,ith each other in disparaging
in the eyes of the country. Even those
ne-wspapers which on every Occasion seem
taxhals to pariegyrize and blazon the COnduct• of
,so ,a, is, Weie among' the folearcist to animadvert