The Sun.
London, England, 1817-08-02 00:00:00

RJ11.1.-Ni CATHOLICS.

The following Letters •shetv that the ROMAN
CATHOLICS are agitated by an intestine War;
and therefore, as they arc at variance with them.
selve3, and disposed To REBEL agai..st the INPAL•
LISLE HEAD OF THEIR CHURCH, we submit to
the considetation of the PROTESTANT WORLD
what confidence can properly be placed in them.
by the British Government :

FRONI THB CATHOLIC BISHOP oFCLOYMB AND ROSS.

" Cove, 19th July, 1817.

"MY DEAR SON,—I readily persuade myself that :lie Ca•
tholic Board, whi-e they deem it necessary to remind the l're.
lates of the Irish Catholic Church, of attending to the dan•
gers which now menace its purity and independence, are not
really actuated by distrust or disrespect, however such no-
tice may indicate that dispoiitien. lam rather inclined to
suppose that their Address proceeds front a fervid attachment
to their religion, and from an anxious fellow feeling for its
dearest interest.—They knew that we have repeatedly ad-
dressed his Holiness upon this momentous subject, and
will tell them, in language unusually energetic, they knot*
that two successive Delegations front the Catholic Bishops of
Ireland Mare conveyed our apprehensions to the Pontiff in
person, and most earnestly deprecated, in repeated interviews,
the object of our unanimous reprobation, and that our Dele-
gates ate neither unsupported by us nor disowned.
" The anomalous state of the Irish Catholic Church and its
Hierarchy, as it appears to be contemplated in Rome, is na-
turally a subject of astonishment to the Catholic Board, awl
to others less guarded, a matter of indignation ; for by the
special favour of Goo, our predecessors, under every reverse,
from the first establishment of Christianity in helaw.l to the
present hour, have never vacated their Sees, nor has their
succession been interrupted—a glorious fact for this
unparalleled in the annals of persecution.

" The Catholic Board most as naturally. be astonished, that
whe.i tLe envy Legislatures of former angry times acksiow-
leOged our iitle, in their severest enactments, for it was ex-
pressly as Archbishops, Bishops, Deans, and Vicar, G. neral,
the Arista Cato.,tic Clergy were then denounced—Rome,alich
in thoSe times was edified at the unbending firmness of these
victims, should now seem to oisregard weir successors as et
;,ativua► Hierarchy ; and, after eLgulating our spiritual con-
cerns fora series of years in the Congregation of Propaga;nla,
should farther seem to hand us over to a Secretary fur Tem-
poral Aliairs, induenced, it is feared, by his Anti-Catholic
auvisers. This, indeed, ,s a just subject of astonishment anti
regret, that the evil may be either remedied or obviated hi
Domestic Nomination, I am inenued saute to wia,!, thin to
hope; though anxious fur the measure, a., every Catho-
lic Prelate is, and though I shall most zealously co-oiierate
in the attaining of it.
" In every event I promise mysel that my Confreres will
do their uuty, and that„ as uas i.eietwore ou a different us..
casiun said, if we cannot cuwina:rd siteess, we shall always
endeavour to deserve it.

"1 as A very respectfully, dear Sir,
" f our 1.1,11111-U1 Lunn e *errant,
WitLiA:rl Latil'lNGEßs
_

" To Edward Hay, Esq."

FROM THE CATHOL/C BISHOP OF BAPHOB.

Ballysiidilliouy Jul) 20. t 117.

" MY DEAR Stn,—Ou my return home yesterday tvtuing
from the lower ►iistrict of this Diocese, your hind conoanni—
cation Of the 15th instant was handed to. me. I have careful),
noted its contents, and am clearly of opinion, that there never
was a period, since the first agitation of that tae,:, ul wwt acs
ct•rsed measure, the Vao, in which a meeting, of the Prelate*
was more necessary, and that souse prompt and decisive step
should be taken to secure, it possible, some mode of Domestie
Nomination for the Irish Catholic Church.

" I write by this night's post to his Grace of Drogheda.
stating to him my sentiments on this important subject, and
requesting that be, as head of the Catholic Church of Ireland,
will lose no time in convening a Nleei,ng of the Bishops for
said purpose. If my letter.to tie Primate shonld not lava
the desired effect, I shall ingenuously, at sl without reserve,
in.part to you my sentiments on the subject matter of your
letter to me. Highly approving of the real and vigilance of
the Catholic Board, I have the honour to be, with unfeigned
respect anti esteem, my dear Sir, your most obedient Servant,
" To Edw. Hay, Esq. P. NI'LOUGHLIN."

FROM THE CATHOLIC BISHOP OF ossoPY.

" Kilkenny, July 21, 1817.

" SI,R,-1 have be( n honoured with your letter of the 15thi„
expressing the sentiments of the Catholic Board, and requir-
ing the coailuunication of my sentiments, on the present
posture of Cat ludic Ecclesiastical Affairs in this Country. For
the Gentlemen composing that Board, I feel, as I ought, very
great respect. I cannot, therefore, think lightly or the opi-
nion which they form, or the tears they entertain. I should,
nevertheless, be wanting in candour, if I dirt not avow, that
after the best consideration n► my power, I an►, as yet, un-
able to discover, in the events which ha►e iecentiy occurred
here or elsewhere, any new grounds of serious alarru, or any
new formidable danger t breatening th, Independence or our
National Church, ot the purity of the ancient Religion of
Ireland.

" The cause of Catholic Ireland has, I doubt not, man,
enemies, powcisful, aetile, pr,seieiing. In this, however,
these is nothing Lord;
and the day, I apprehend, is as yet
distant, when xe shall be aliout d t.) repose in pe fret seen-

rity. It is, therefore, at the Pi ese.tt q.irit.ent, not less, i,er-
haps, than at any fn. mer period, the ohvions duty a an
sincere and faithful Catholics in iratcit, with zeniOus care,
over the interests of their Religion ; ready alwa)s, when citt
etnnstatices may require it, to stand boldly foruard for its
protection, without, however, ghtin4 out of the proper station
which Providence has assigned to them respectively. And
it particularly behoves the Bishops not to slumber at their
posts, to he ever on the alert, always rigdant, always pr.-
pared to repel, with becoming fortitude and vigour, and to
frustrate, by all the just means ithiu their reach, ever.'/ c
tempt (no molt, r front what quarter it In qceeds) whilh
appear nled or caleulnt,:d TO CORRUPT the doctrine or
discipline; to infringe the rights, invade the independence, or
disturb the lranquiqi of the Church committed 1, t.eir carc,
To the ,:ccompli hment of these paramount ditties, not Acble
endetwur,s• Atrial!, I hope WI, be cealonsly and altrliail".

livgly directed.
'' Whether the Rights of the ;visit iii,rarehy continue still
to be unduly witiliehl—and whet her the existing discipline,
which submits our E, clesiasticalCoucerns, in various esitucts,
to the eontrool of certaiii Roman Congregations, should be
corrected or abrogated, these are questious which, tboug.4

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" To Edward Hay, Esq."

FROM THR BISHOP OF KILLALOE.

gild WC( 111)filetriiate pill chasers.

deeply interesting, the Catholic 17. and wilt east). per...tire I
ought not to discus o this Letter.

"Ou this subject of Domestic .Nomination, my sentiments
remain unchanged. I hold it to be a good and desirable mea-
lure, and a•t prepared io concur in those steps, which, after
due consultation with the other Bishops, my venerated Bre-
thren, and with the Clergy of this Diocese, my natural ad-
,isers, shall appear proper to be adopted, with a view of be-
ing carried into effect.

" 1 beg to express my sincere acknowledgments for the very
tattering manner in which the Catholic Board are pleased to
testify their confidence and respect for the illustrious Prelacy,
knongst whom I hold a place, and have the honour to be,
tith nluch esteem,

66 Sir, your obedient Servant,
" K. MARUM, Catb. Bp. of Ossory.

" Nt.wmarliet on Fergus, July 17, 1817.

" DEAR Sut,—Your Circular of the 15th instant I have just
tiury recr,red, and hasten to express my most bratty concur-
Vence with the Catholic Board, as to the measures they pro-
Vase and recommend at this truly alarming crisis.
" The vigilance and anxiety of the Catholic Board en-
title them to the heartfelt gratitude and thanks of the Catho-
lic Prelates, and of all the Catholic Clergy and Laity of Ire-
land. It it be true that the management of Irish Ecclesias-
tical affairs is taken out of the bands of the Propaganda, and
'committed to a certain kind of Tribunal, contrary to the
usage of time imineMorial; together with the expulsion of
the Rev. Mr. Hayes, the avowed Delegate of the Irish Catho-
lic,,
no don .t but that our situation at the present moment is
extremely alarming.

" It rtaniiied but little penetration to see that the British
Government, in seeking that ab,minaide measure Peto,
'with such unreinitted perseverance, had something deeper in
view than to guard against the disloyalty of the Irish Prelates.
Little, very little apprehension was entertained on that sub-
ject, no such thing;—but by obtaining a controul on the ap-
pointment of eml Bishops, the gradual annihilation of the
Catholic Religion in Ireland is most certainly calculated on.

• Fpr my own part, I am decidedly of opinion, that a Ge-
neral Meeting of the Bishops should be immediately called, to
male ae last and best stand we could against this detestable

meantere; a measure that we should not only deprecate in the
strongest and most positive terms, but that, if all failed, we
should protest against any power the Holy Sec may have to
concede such a point to a Government known to be prover-
Nally hostile to the faith of our. fOrefathers; and a point, if
tarried into effect, that Hilt most probably terminate in abo-
lishing the Catholic Religion in Ireland.
" Quere—Has the See of Rome a poWer to alter the Gene-
ral Discipline of a National Church, in an essential point,
tiut only without the consent, but in direct opposition to the
-*bole Hierarchy of the same; and in circumstances most
rticely to prove fetal ; and all this with an eye to Political Ag-
grandizement, and brought about by the schemes and in-
trigues of a corrupt and unprincipled Political Secretary? •
** As to the time and place of meeting, that rests with the
Iletropolitaus, and in this a suffragan can take no share.
ss am, my dear Mr. Hay, with high esteem, and sincere
rriencfship, your faithful, obedient Servant,
" To Edward Hay, E:q. 3. O'S HAUGHNTESSY.

•• p.s. Should it he improper in me to qtr•stion the ant ho-
sky with which his Holiness is %/islet' in the present instance,
%jib profound subs issiun and obedience I bow to St. Peter's
Successor."

%Ve refer our Readers to a Letter in our last
this slay, frOrn a learned and valuable Cor-
lesnondew, to whom we have been often in-
debted, by which they will be enabled to form a
proper estimate of the character of the ROMAN
CATHOLICS, •as well as of the INFALLIBLE HEAD
et TkIFIR RELIGION, and by which our Rulers
may judge how far it would be expedient or safe
to remove any of those restrictions which at pre-
sent preclude PAPISTS from t! eir great object, a
participation of political Power in our peseta
orthodox Constitution, iu Church and State.

EXTRACT OF A LETTER FROM NEW YORK, DATED
JULY 2, 1817.

‘g For these many years we have not known so
fine a season. Flom all parts of this and Essex
County there are accounts of abundant crops of
Wheat, Rye, Oats, &c. It is computed that the
juantiry of Wheat and Rye now on the ground is
5,Au, or three times greater than was ever
known."

BREAD.—We have again the pleasure to an-
Dounce a Reduction in this valuable article of con-
sumption. The Quartern Loaf is now sold for
Ig. 3y., being less by three farthings than last
weak• No doubt csa remain of further redactions
so,►n taking place from the abundant appearance
of all crops of grain, and of which our coMINUOI-
tatioOS from every part of the kingdom daily in-
!arm its.

Samples of Nev Wheat were yesterday offered
for sale i►► Mae k- lane it looked remarkably fine,

110 ME MANUFACTUHES.-It is gratifying to ob-
serve the pm" lit:: predilection for articles of
'tome Mariam:line, and that our fair country
women are giving every encouragement to articles
of that desciiption in preference to foreign. But
far this disposition We could not account for the
xreal demand for Limerick and Cork Gloves ;
A 4,1,, in our estimation; for softness, appear-
and workmanship, far excel the. French.
The following bier occurred at Eton a few
buys since ; a well known Patriotic Orator was
l'iken before tie Alagistratt's of Eton, by one of
French Mast eri of Eton School, for insulting
4ilbe Ladies in the public Sneers, and being drunk
1141 quarrelsome. He was on the point of being
‘vben the French Dl aster recognised
:;11-1 and interceded in his behalf. The Magi.
-pntes dismissed him, giving him in charge to the
quchtuatt, who marched him, through the hoot-
o rut tire toOn, to the boundaries of the Parish,
hen he was obliged to reel away amidst the.his. '
tiof SWIM hundreds of spectators.

SIII i' NE .I'S.

EXTRACT OF A LETTER FROM OUR CORRESPONDENT
AT LIVERFooL, DATED JULY 31.
The following Vessels have arrived this day from
the United Strifes:—
Amazon, Bnahows, from Charleston, sailed June 30.
Justina, TOMES, from New York, sailed .July 2—cargo, 3203
barrels Flour, 44 barrels Ashes, 63 bales Cotton.
Nancy, BERGER, from New Orleans, sailed from the Balire
14th Junc.--cargo, 1600 barrels Flour, 1158 bales Cotton, 20
hundred Staves.
Cargo of the Wellington, reported in my ►ast-1075 bales
Cotton, and 50 hundred Staves.
Favourite, FOSTER; arrived at New York July 3; she sailed
from hence the 7th May, in company with the Andes and
Solon, for New York.
The Merrimack, GoODRiCII, which sailed from hence for
Boston the 24th inst. has this morning put hack leaky.
In my last I omitted giving you the particulari of cargoes
from Quebec by 3 vessels, :
Carricks7-6816 bushels Wheat, IRS barrels Ashes, 787 bags
Flax-seed, with Timber, Staves, Masts, and Spars.
Solus-4177 bushels and 200 bags W!leat, 700 barrels Flour,
433 barrels Ashes, and 120 sacks Flax-seed.
Waiter-9314 bushels Wheat, 100 bags Flax-seed, 20 bar.
rels Ashes.
The Importer and Pacific, for New York, will sail on Sondayi
Ceres, for Boston, on Tuesday; Courier and Tritton, for ditto,
latter end of next meek; and Mariner, for Quebec, to sail
the Bth.