The Sun.
London, England, 1817-05-17 00:00:00

UNIVERSITY PETITIONS.

The Duke Of Gt.ontaS•rett preiented a petition
froldtke Univirsity of Cambridge against tirt,iCa-
tholic :Claims; His Royal Highness .stated,' that
though his name, in consequence of the high
office which be held in that University, appeai.eil
at the head of the pet.ition, yet he by no weans
coneorred in the prayer of it, t •
The petition was then read; and stated, in sub-
stance, that the petitioners saw no reason to be-
lieve that the sentiments'and principles of the Ito.
man Catholics were at all changed ; that tbey
were not conciliated by past concessions ; and
that nothing would satisfy them but a.COmpliance
%yitir.,6oo.,..tyhich would anclertnine the securities
of the .Protestant

. . • , •
.Lord CiitEwvlLLE presented n' petitr3n to the
same effect hoax the 'University of Oxfor•3l.
_.
Both petitions were laid on the table.;
CATIIOLIC CLAIMS'.

The Order of the Day, ott which their Lord-
ships' were suntMoned, being'read,
The Earl of DpNOUGH'kORIt rose.r-lt was his
duty now to call iheir Lordships' attention to the
petitions from their Catholic fellOwsebjects which
lay on their table. Ile bad presented two peti-
tions, one of which was front the general
,body of
the Irish Catholics, in the *sent , Session ; and
he had presented two other petitions last Sessio.n,
one, from the Nobility and others, who _ heti
thought proper to petition separately, and the
other from theirish Catholic Prelates and Clergy.
It bad been intimated to him by some of those
who, signed the 'former petition, that they wet e
desirous to have it now hrooght under considera7
tipn I and the Prelates and Clergy bud .sent over
two most respectable individuals, selected from
their body, to give every information in their power
to the members of the two [louses of Parliement,
and lend ell the, aid which they could give to the
furtherance of-,noy measure of relief which Parlia-
ment might think 'it proper to entertain. It was
clear, therefore, that the Prelates and Clergy were
desirous that the subject, Of their petition should be
considered. When their Lordships had the whole
body of the Irish Cetholies, ecclesiastical and lay,
„ ,
peerandpeasintoll Joining in onepetti Km that their
claims might at length he considered, and TOW
given from thOse disabilities to which they were
subjected ; be stood there the representative,
though an inadequate one, of the whole body of
his Catholic Countrymen, claiming on their be-
half, that they ahould at length be admitted to the
freedom of the Constitution; and the rights and
privilegesol.British subjects. In calling their at-
tention to these petitions of no entail Pert of - the
population of these kingdoms, it was his wish to
abstain from' all generality ; and instead of resting
their claims upon. the triumphant ground of their
merits, he, would rather advocate their cause
by refuting, the ealuninies with which they, had
been loatled. • Never had the Catholics been Its'.
sailed with more vinlenee „anrl AcritnottY then at
the present moment,- as their Lerdships must be
aware of, from what had passed in both nottses
of Parliament, as well as from what had Appeared
in the public press—a press ‘vhielt was free, and be
hoped still would continue .free—the authentic
recorder of the opinions and pf iociples of public
men ; notwithstanding the extraordinary crusade
to which a Noble Secretary of State had exposes{
it, by subjecting it to the footrool of every Ma,
glitrate and Justice of Peace, in the manner
stated in the circular letter, for every sentiment
and opinion of which these Nagistretes. alight not
upprove—qUear, hear !).--,and thus constituting
himself, through the medium of the Magistrates,
a Sort of licenser of the press on all subjects, ee..
ligions and political. The question never came
before them tinder greater irritation of !he public
Mind than ttt this moment. The Catholics lied to
complain, that they had been most grossly Calum-
nlateil,, and that, while their claims. were refused,
they themselves had been most cruelly Maligned.
Lie himself, and probably others of their Lord.

t'i;;tB; hita. receivc(hracts, writt4ti andiniblished
agAinst (he Catholics, that mighejniike the hatr
of any liberal man stand on ind. ,One woofl
think that the ohjeCt was to false the riot' 'Of
1783. The sufferings of Protestant martyrs were
represented in pictures, and the Pope and Priest?
expressing satisfaction at the tortures which these
martyrs endured. Ti-is was not a fair and candid

manner of meeting the petitioners. Every engine,
had been set to woili to prejudice the public
mind against the unfortunate Catholics, whose

cause he advocated ; and he Was sorry to say,
that the means' adopted to injure them with
the public had not been without success. It vas
not merely of the exertions-out of doors for that
Object, that he had to complain. With- all due
respect to the Noble Lord on the wool-sack; he

imht say, that he had contributed to this result.
The Noble Lord had risen from the woolsack the

other tlay, and with alt the authority which-he-
longed to his lligh situation and unblemished:cha-
racter, and with extraordinary warmth, called the
attention of theix lordships to this question, as
one which concerned the very vitals pi the Con-
stitution. -The Noble Lord must have meant a
great deal by that expression, for it was not Lis

custom to speak without meaning, anti his mean-
ing must have been thistbat all those who sup-
ported the Catholic Claims were adOcates for
measures which would lubvett the Constitution.
The Loan CtraNdELLon.—lle rose to order.
With the most sincere respect for the•NobleEarl,
he must remind him that he only stated an opi. '
Ilion which he hart ever conscientiously held, and
in which he was the more confirmed the more he
considered the subject. That opinion be was
bound to state and to support, but with a desire
that the most liberal tokerkttion should be given to
all religious persuasions. if the Noble Earl
thought that he meant to prejudice the debate of
this night, be assured, the Noble Earl that he
tneant Stith thitnt.
The Earl of DostononmOai said, that wit!) the

highest deference to the knowledge and authority
of the Noble and Learned Lord, he was not quite
satisfied that this interruption: accorded with the
rides of order its debate. He willingly received
the explanation 'of the Noble and Learned Lord,
respecting the observation of a former night, bat
with his strong conviction and.his acute feeliogs
upon this subject, the Noble and Leaved Lord
must find himself its a most painful situation, ob-
liged to sit in Council, and advise the Sovereign,
iu concert • 's:ith men whom he must,. consider as
attacking the vitals of the Constitution, he (Lord
D.) meant, if .their views were carried into effect.
Ueder all .those circumstances, he feared at the
:present for the success at the petitiooers. But
he !witted farviard with- confidence to the (lay—a
day which he trusted would soon arrive, when a
liberal, a rational, and a successful hearing would
be given to their claims.--:-(Hear !)—ft WAS not
quite methodical for him to cuter then into the
points of :arrangement, which more properly be•
longed to the House in Committee, if the Committee
shenitt, be agreed to. Perhaps, however, it would be
practically convenient that-be abould then enter into
those-matters—he meant Me securities which the
p%titiouers were ready to concede. These seen-
rities,.as far us 1141 collected froM the public press,
had great influence on the public mind in its judg-
•inent on this question', There was first the se-
curity ot dometic nomination—secondly, that
which wits known under the "name of `a veto; AtOct
thirdly, the payment of the Catholic Clergy.
Much blame was' imputed to the Catholics, be-
eauie they 'refused to accede to the proposition,
and tire security of domestic. nomination was de-
clared, to be..eo illusion. He was at a loss to
conceive why this should be considered an illusory
pledge.. Had we not he would ask, the strong
groupd of our experience to judge its efficiency
Domestic nomination was no new mode suggested
now for the first time.. It was, with very few
exceptions, the established *practice in Ire-
land for several years.-7(Hear, hear!)---It
was: said the Pope had voluntarily offered a con-
cordat to sanction the former arrangement by the
granting of a veta. He begged their Lordships
to consider the peculiar state of Ireland, with re-
ference to this arrangement. Did the Irish Ca.;
tliolics, in thisyespeet, stand in the same position as
those of England ? By no pleat's. England was go-
veined directly and
,by principals, whilst Ire.
land was ruled by a Deputy Administration.—
What would be the state of the Irish Catholics
thus ruled by deputy, if- they abandoned the
independence of their religiOn to the Govern-
ment ? How would the affairs of their. Church be
administered ! not by the Noble Lord Lieu,
tenant Or his Secrete' y, who would employ them-
selves alone upon.eivil affuirs._ The ecclesiastical
affairs of the Catholics would be left to some per-
, son who thought only of making fine, or at least
.long
,speeches, in either Muse—to some second
or third rate clerk from the Costle-yardin Dublin.
What was, on the other hand, to be feared from
the Catholic Clergy, if entrusted with what they
already exercised—domestic trominatioo I lie
' well knees how-tneelt-was.doa to OM loyalty
zeal of those'respectable persons during times of
peril in Ireland. At one period lre believed, that
without them public order and legal government
could not have been maintained, Why Was it now
determined to destroy, the union between them
. and the people? He was against having the Ca-
tholic Clergy paid by the State, and would not
Sever them from, the people for the purpose of
uniting them with any
civil authority
whatever.themselveshey were theselVes
.averse frooi this sort of
remuneration, .nod ivishe•l ' abide by the.
fruit of their own services in the perform-
anee of their duties, Ile therefore coalft not,
and would not, offer that security, vix. WY'
ing the Catholic Clergy paid by- the State, as
the price of their emancipation. lie had,
m WY:,
ever, a measure to propose in the Committee,
agreed to—a direct and practical security, %Olio'
would at once give equal liberty to the Catholic,
and quiel 11)6 feari of those who might be alarmed
foe the established Church. He would throw open
to the Catholic every office in the Statannder
Protestaut Government, reserving; only to Protes-
tants the exclusive patronage, administration, and
unthaity of the Protestant Chord) ;- and giving,
t the same time, and in thill'arite Matinee, to Ca:
tboliefi, the exclusive admioistration of the, 'r
Church. He begged of their Lorships to consider
well the subject of that night's debate--not.

aii onlyacid latyhael freedom of rune millions of gno4
. subjects, but their eOtigieltreS, Lli
their Lordships remember tholeroporti of till
Protestant to the Catholic ppYouldthei
Lordship's maintain the domination, no longer ne
cessary. and therefore no lougerjust, of one milliu
and a ball over the rest of lie House to 1
nition i He ,TI
quested the attention of the g thil,
portant subject, foci`he sake of the subject, ill
for the speaker. —C e'Cliancellor tlisclsinted I
least disrespect' or inattention to the Noble Birl
' He heard it nrgerl that the Catholic Clergy we
zealous lei their dh!y, and therefore the 614101
the petitioners should be refused. This orgemeni
I render
eee
n.c
taietlwouldrseo tn 1
II
ece 1
others,
sn:
,f .
dangerousee sr se ,
ze atstettedo ii:i
it,
citizen
it
ei
the s f ,s. , .
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pt 7
(; rf i
os naIII %;
el .
ii'll
even a sacred datv, they most he themselves, PI
gear, lior
Rut the fact was, and bc sPoke It 'vitt,' reingrig
that the Catholic Clergy had not this "°lllll p
over the minds of the people--tinfortunafe(ig.t
that eotintil.—forwitenevo they hid csetcise
influence, be appealed to the loiowletige evil 11
the Noble Lords oppcsite, whettter their we i,
was not uniformly thrown into the scale of laltA!
and good order. Beettes public fttactiototits.l4,l,
had proyed most useful. the State. Ai°111..,1 y;
urged, that if-the Catholic Cl::r4y were we lo
the feelings of men--they must hate tl.cYtoTri
Onvernment, which imposed upon theta tiler
code. Even admitting the fact, woulti, it fl
reason for perpetutiting this odious c°d,e :,hattel
tact was not so ; and, as he had alresq-01,01
the Catholic Clergy bad .yecivoiS 61010'00
in the hour of doubt and clanger. Tient po
lion of implacable hatred to the Prot"lse go
blishment was a grtlss perversina ("1 l'ir 01
feeling, which even those. who euttiloYe'll pia
know, In their hearts to be destitute of fottoloo,
But there leas another argnateot lore Fr's`/Y;:litlii°
than even this—it was urg,,4l, upou a very illfenii.)loo
reasonin, that because Orangemen bad r°°.,si boll
ceidties upon CithOlics, the claims of the I.itebt.:; a,114(
~
~I.yslc,aurl.iansent. In chi; there ,v is stoti...lll,o,llegi
'in'. :na, suns. Because. Cat holies are ta!_agoottr.,
-because Use murderers sre acquitted uY 7
pt. their OrasKe associates. the "louse niust t 004::
lions which were flier' before it Ytt, strouthceti Or
pear, he it itilerstood this urvinient hod Drenlibisfe;
effect in another place 13( fore he olio°'/"iye OIL
should state to their Lo.rtisittpi what hail be! 3, ober,
thev Solicitor-Geiteral for Irelatui . (Mr, 140,4r/}(0105
'.t be t
~, F
benefactorst tai,
Irnecdil st. aehrirdi (;c :c liasr els°
utrh. ts!, not uort:tmerieir, e 1::::::::::iioititi:Ils:
Judge that Cirittit, upon the conduct of Ivo ovilit , ,
Judgedetdo Courtw h ll°le";lllltXtatleltflsitlilliisliaisi6 ALit.l...4r*Ps'il
'_!, Gentlemen,. you huvetfo'und this nisi) ltot,gre hii
titepre..ohjeleiteionat—votwheed,re-tebsatitiblfiocii.T:rilty.llll:;:critiscti,,4l,
troublesome and dangerous itt forogu ',lts I,.,"'ilill'
tnietne was gone ; they had no iiithienoe cre"ottr,o,l,
tinfeaßihhtso 4Sisis to
t4}ruibiey lvduie:iretintli'tisSctoceamtieltid:tieebi'ji."34;lllllltil°wellejli;::°;iiiillitile4r7::(slltli
thisf.._
,a reason why the Catholics 01,)11%, ,lor Ofti,est
wereiurl their_ constitutional claims? b,l,oo,:eration
4',0401
volierenco of opinion as to tin, r oleo aria
,cleties, and a 3 to n; Bibles with al' 004 lor'ill
.(1ea5.5, hear t) .t
Unclear two Itilld rsivrileolo
that [louse, two very eminent pers"'nf,t'lollo
,night "")stientlysbield himself invier.,, ileorrova,,,..ll
eminent persons tit il'. T' A lijg"„fgAt °,l,ll.:Aki:
lately., soaps into .that !.,i'', 3UI s',,' too,' Kt,"
dli Imp of Llanoatt j, echo 'ci-h's'er eg :" !Ai ll' Cilip
i , :
usingl tW aS a-question whether therlliib'e - t''' ''' iff
Perverted 4 ' ithOut coistuso,lo kill 0,
which that • ' 1 given ''''
4 ore clot" de; of ,
St p Right Reverend Yr a r,, ~,,f t ,
~ etre, obserTing, that the obte • mask,o
would be much more applicable to the Folit, oq,
i °"'n time. . ite (Lawd v.) felt 31 if "ii4Cli, Oi°,
catholics upon the varipus coulit3 of %ctistcoliclo
the most straw of vabiett was that up I 00,,, $Ol,O
to observe. It was asked, why did P° Icatl'i I
themselves by oath of those tenets Lill! Pe(d bi z.i oti?
thew, and which they publicly discl3lT,l or o°oll
NOW, who wire the persons tbst 'lli.' l 4"'b..?i: °t!'i
rYpersons who domed the sectir f,,,roa cl; 4, it
the Catholics. The ottaolio ..vtre4o., • Ou' fiiii
aatil, O
do vin{{ as obligatory tbo sancticio of AI .crD"!_,, „,r.,
face of the proof to the control-I'li', t"';', 00 41,7eiiiti
Constitution, by their r.ptigoailee tollo., in",
their consciences. l'he uothority ol..; of istotwor}t
quoted in another place, in soPPc)" es, ;oat
Burke never could have anticirstrd this, ilcilttidd it
work, written in support of religious rto 01.1
apt 4,t
the Person who quoted the pasoi:e VAlifise/I•.(uili
over to the succeeding page, he woolion Oslo' t stSil
melds of Mr. Burke in the cleclit3 j
*0- t jorlii
ItitUtioll WAS not made for exclusit 014,44
Eater exclusion would destroy il'-'"r• Aof sow'
stinaudne!aiiibboi:ri rjareetlti dt; OiPits°lltilolitival:tdBhl°rdiuril3Yll.ll)lo;ridit6::::°ell4l4lsl.rol::l);',llc:i:tl
existed, and should conclude with silliYalv'd ro!1340 01
mutes of the whole Howe be aPr',4,ooll't4 obi
Catholic Claims. He had only w 0.0 ~ tii tio,,io
any disrespect to the English Critil.ii, sirOsel Mil'
from alluding to them, bot b"cij!'s'ltpoil I'vhtfctiOlcill
taben of the subject, arol the topics oiri!otioet,
had no direct connection with °lst bil!rirstlol/0 041'
or his Majesty's subjects; And 11i5f,.004 b/
ti
plied to all those who would be . 0;4
their Lordships. • ar,...-01 Ol,
The liiihoy -of LANI),,A* thii ratgboar '
dress their bortishiPs "It otocioi vo
portant question, he WO c,. ill 01l it 4,00
he was to do justice ,to it „ea to o.oi
and he would not'incur the I.:setvo tolleeboa
which he might be liable, treTe:(l vico It
lir 1
ble Earl through all the varioi: etiaest:io
of -the subject ;. but he wei_' idisollt 1,`0,01,
to state what indoceel ilia) tu_9„dcolnlil
1 position which ha
•. been so?'
or( religigijobli
Were this a question tnekel,Y with 110,0;:. /tic
lie would loin ittOst sitl.CeFtel,to.opittl L't 40,
vet; but the freedom ot reili,`"4o,e vcc!:tds;
untouched in rhatever."`ltliolic eill,iligo3,'
might be eecided. Elle ',., ,9 hii(ll!' Vf(j
liberty in the professioin.
re.l ,gf,ol
of, the established Choli;'l;reie,,t qilolo, I
therefore, in consideriuF% with rellig, 10
not to concern thernsell:.c,.:ol p 00. .; a ntit.
mutely, hut also with j_ 11.__"e of intOlcor ri
should not incur the 015 statonrris 'es:
iota roily form aking, "oat its 13'. fatil6
question was so Tni°"' .efetence !(1.01 'll
be considered withont 11 1 nollti,
~
(1,1147 r
dilnestitanweiely, iitv 73ts, tine:r(illii,ci
co:
fi'iji°je,P,oifo,ll,,l
gious opinions consonthc)e-, with alt,„(10115:
was of little cortiegtlei) whether.ic 9it
acre true or false. 1-/,': tree 114.' inis l'`
losing to the inity ttiti, 5ch,c;,;,,,1!,
tog):::csvi6,leiiitbile,ccrilYr;it
iitl7e`rieldViclortigrr,eir_.:ecteuticol;:tip'roteil)ofs::::::irrT'ii
These were questior's ' , 100101 coo 11.
no other optntont., , c t ii, tilt toe( lib II
from the highest eti.lc 'xo,, e11..i? i% 01
,poolidlitt oifoivgielists..,;,...ittenir
tice,.ol,lll;l.l'lo(vi)ii,.fit.th.,teit,ery? beft.,,etitis,l
no delinquency, ',"flY. t'iti,,o, tii tai'' lecol,,g
sibility prononoceti Ph_ 1. 119 pill,'r teat fil
he most eindiallY egr,'::: coste Ds
Le: tdtcyc
ivt,i iel,lii
b;
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4ttit
. Ritrohon to all that I,al been its*ell by
Ell! ; and he tvas ready to 'admit.;
inost favourable to the petitioners.; that
egoilitv t noire
n , 7 .0 ought to depend upon
oilliettY and worth. But before their
illiellretinietn a_tlecision on the claims of the
Ivo', the
Y must inquire whether there may'
i ale religions tenets, the holding of which '
a Imatt better qualified to serve the
nae who does not hold them, Let it
, what is the nature Of the'civil ca-
'red by our Conitiftition ? The alle-
'robe!' of the' Established Church is
1' in a religious and a civil point of
civil hliegi3nce of a Protestant Dis-
pill , .
not ,
~ not equally comptete, is sun-
lilaalifying it deduction as that of a
'lie. It Protestant Dissenters refuse
Age the Sovereign as the head of their
cr if, they have any other.. headi that
3 foreigner, or a person who has no
illerc't with the Government of the
notwithstanding this attontally, it
obedience given to. the Pope.
'al, and never interfered with
'tent. 'Here he most remark,
apinioni it was not always easy
lat. was temporal and what civil. '
therefore, 'could not decide this
taking religion into account.—
... that on many points connect -
fi"n ',lie petitioners themselVes en-
as to whether they involved civil
Patrons. . Now to whom hart the
',y to solve their doubts ? To
which was essentially iirecon-
temporal power of their own Go-
lf the decisions of that power
;tent with their civil duties, was
'Preheuded that the latter would
fritter? 'll,c commands of con-
always have a most powerliil in,"
0111 bound by the oblittiluts of
those held by Roman Catholics'
Y, by arlomwlegiog; a foreit,,,n
to he acted t,pon by foreign in-
/,°lll'l. Perhaps be said, that these
otetntsktent with the enlightened
ulcer times; hut what Was Coal-
nlightened policy was not always a
',d Pulley. He might be reterred
'he told that there Ptotestatits are
41"tkilnstion of.equal political rights
a" Cathidies ; but he hoist obsvrve
w" very different between the ad-
'''nestatits to political power itt a
the Church of ft nose formed the tlO-
and the admiiihion of Roman Ca-
e privilege under it Protestant Go.
'e Protestant owed no ,illegiance
'llntent of his-country : not so the
"owdly owes allegiance to a to.
whosee views are hostile to the sys-
°Y which the domestic Prince
it
Petitioners, who now apply it; he
t'lli4l footing of eligibility with pro-
) give an equal pledge of allegiance.
he admitted ; but if their. religions
`t them fr'om giving the same pert, ct
'giance,.t hen they are not equal in
eil),4eity and worth, and consetlen,-
oCregartted as etfitslly futniissible
I. or to.,seats, in the cot neils of
ai.,•ivorte 441 not mean, ro say that Roman
t '''' fork. bid subjects • all that he meant to
1r et', that, politically that
ilia, they
-‘441;;;;4)(1 as Pro testants. lie was ready
anti integrity as
44,4 ;41?e their honour • • .
l' hi:':(lividuals : many of them were en-
.''iti,(ll-,)"iitheir respect, but the allegiance
at ,'t fureign Prince counteracted that
~. wn ~ ,
grit, i - ‘, 0 tIIVIr own Sovereign, and len:
a Estrl4 fit to he admitted to offices of
fltil "teatailt country than those. who
t
Fete 411,,*i0n of the State. After having
Fit • . sty f4l principles, it
b li tv!ts hardly ne-
c,tavet,'►at to enter into details. He
Tit Cr'-sa a
A le iiii , Y few words on the subject
tteptio titillation. in his opinion it was
riistill,;(llbetiler the election of Bishops was,
' wilt kl a Chapter or, entirely of Bishops.
ril *ithoill'awn 1
taat a Chapter may obey a
At444lAti i t l'a'ir'!; any choice : still,
t'.,,'l o,,,:'terterence was to he apprehended.
how-
it,ifilt„,
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ine was told, the co+ tom Was for the
..,jrti; l',.)e teeCulltnetttletl to the vacant See,
,'ilthil it"lllte to confirm. 7-(Here there was a
5b,:r,,11,,,,0re
i` Order !" in consequence of Lord
t't"ti,loi.l '3, vitlit risen from Ills seat, and at"
iNtolsim( te,sl the House.)
6el4,rti:;/(1) it Aqui' perfectly out of order to, hi'.
k+l.,t4l.,l)oNr;ii.wltieht Reverend Prelates.
'ttj.,, ili,,t,
.71,441 I rtil )Rli said, he did not rite from
1141,1,44 44 e'..t t(1 the Riot Reverend Prelate, but he
ttlin„;itth,d, glut
the point of domestic nominator'
ti4l'lllo°f 'l"ltThArr resitined.—He said that the
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t. 1 teo Nil .1 .
0Q,114 Prote4tllintitictice in the attachment of
, s 4,1,(,,,,e '',,, ing, when they saw the oath of
•-•,,t,4,4,11T ciiilrri, which they took tt their consecration.
,I'll!i,h,olliablhliP".4l to break down those securities
'441.'4. 44,tc'e!which the wisdom of their ancestors
1,,,4_ ‘t. %telt it
h a x r,„"t p !once btolten down, swim..
,t iii;oo
t, ," be able to restore.
Itil*ltici, ii Nottwt cif was aware
ti 1 l' i tves clue to the opinionsof the
of 'the
Ne., tviat,
wi 0 . le
tiiti %et come i trail just, sat down, H. e
04,, 1, th'e
~_ td, tlitt the Roman Catholics
i,,:r„elty. ,',"'lst unequivocal proofs of their
,ti nit t "eh' claims, he thought, sent"
' tOt tfleet i ,
tti 4t • ••et, ocean
hied
t, enter i„, se of their attachment
0,14 toeto in 18'nus opinions of their ancestors.
li, et r "t!neent, though with Protestants
tirk'il h -Nariled a
~4,ii,14t,e,1 hod , s erroneous., 'niece op.i-
, ti, 'Nor 1, uy Our ancestors, who laid
• ~,,ty, ,v,r "ht political liberty we now en-
i,.. At; 1::140 e the opinions of most of the
3/4S•4llillihi)"..!. With %%limn we were. happily
llt!e4ilt
ctr,.:ri.!; and they were the.opinions
1,14i14.1111,,,I);1.e Noblemen and Gentlemen
114° Of i , toady Who heard him were in
`4i I Ito 1"")41Y ttr 1 '
, Nil ~ rtitto ea., . ittendsitip. They all
'7'4l„ "ein,ei "'nnts, in all the relations of
i,„k Rtit,i "t AS Worth n b •of fin-
liri Itlei Sithie., , y lem els .
it,. r errs;, J .iias protestants.'Ailith
4N' Pati, i'' Pacity, the 'di fferent Acts of
1 the 1 ' (luring th, . ~od„ lecew. i present reign saved
o ,itl; t, "Y of arguing in support of
kt ttlr,. ' that p„ . . -
ni. -,ttly L . position. Certain
tlllO 11,11 `1“:44 iditi ;yen to them ;
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lion de&flad., T.
Nasho slight recoaaantaidaaia the ainst jou before
the House, that.thenio“ able gala &anguished per-
sons of all partit!'o;,o suppoctad the Catholic
Claims. It bad been ehly said, that on their
emancipation depended the question whether the
union between Great Blitain and 'lreland should
prove a benefit or an injury to the former ; and
whether tt‘ loyal and -generous people should
henceforth
,be rendered a bulwark for the Empire.
With regard to the question of domestic nomina-
tion, the Catholics of Ireland had always been de-
sirous to adopf some mode of election which
might be unobjectionable to the Government, and '
at the same time be consistent with their own re-
ligions Opinions. In his opinion, what had been
proposed to be &Ate with this view, ought to be
regarded as perfectly satisfactory. As to the Ca-
tholic Ciergy, he agreed to what had been so elo.
erently and justly said in their praise by the
Noble Earl. Ireland WAS much indebted to them
for thearanquillity it enjoyed, and they were Ml-
wearied, in the performance of their religious
duriesa ever really to administer consolation to
their flocks by night or by day, they encoittitered
the greatest difficulties. Of these pions andinde,
fatigable men it might be justly said, that
" With frames of adamant, and stints of-6:e,
f‘ No danger daunt them, and no labour9 tire."
Religious liberty lormed one of the most, impor-
tant principles of the British Constitution ; and
the exclusion of the Catholics could not be main-
tained on any just ground. On this great wi-
thin, the writings-ot-Air. Locke, one of the
greatest reasoner, any country ever produced,
had induced him to change his early sentiments,
It eras AS impolitic ms it was uncharitable to tos-
ter a spirit of jealousy with respect to the reli
gious opinions of others. A very eloquent speech,
he understood, bad been delivered .in another
place, on the supposed danger to be apprehended'
from farther concessions to tire Roman Catholics,
but the opinion said to have been given was not
that of a statesman. Those who talked of danger,
front Popery in these Oates Would cry out tire'in
the nriat• o'f a deluge. The Roman Catholics of
Ireland had manifested,. amidst el eat sufferings,
a patience and forbearance that would have dime
honour to the primitive Christians. They had en-
dured a degree of oppresiou which might even
have justified resistance es <1 mean. of eicaping
from Servile degradation. After all they had suf-
fered, it appeared to him that there was very Ft-
tle Christian charity or moderation in the re-
proaches which were: now heaped upon them by
their adversaries.
The Bishop of Ossoev foll Owed : he entertain-
erg very' different views of the subject from 'the Ve-
nerable Prelate who hint just spoken. lie depre-
cited part of the doctrine held by the Rev. Pre-
, late, which he regarded as little short it
that part of the people of Ireland, that if Parlia-
ment did not condor in their Petitions. they would
he almost justified rrsistAnce. Against such
doctrine he must protest, and pleased to non-
' t Fast it with what had fallen from a Noble Earl,
a ho had recently ail:tressed a niist lu wilt:ins legal
speech to the HOWit. It wets held by that Noble
Earl, that it iv.wc the province of the Legislature
to enact laws for the people in its wisdom and
discretion ; and that it was the ditty of the 'sub-
ject to aibey 'the lane, ao enacted. Recurring
to the subject regelatly bin ore the House, his
Lordship observed, be could riot regard what
was called " domestic nomination, as "a new
or ailegirate security--it was one. at any rine,
of which they were long in possession. In
what be should take the liberty to 'differ, be should
refer to no authority or language, save that of. Ca-
tholics themselves, though it was almost totally im-
possible to compete with those who changed their
Opinioits with every chaege,of the times.—He felt
it necessary to read to their Lordships extracts
from books written by the Catholics themselves,
In order to shew that they were as unstable us
the sands of the deert, and that what they said to-
day they would unsay to-morrow. He accordingly
proceeded to read extracts from various resolu-
tions come to by the Catholics at different periods,
and thence contended that 'they could never give
up a foreign jurisdiction while they remained lto.
man Catholics, but as it served their physical pur-
poses, they bad frequently ceased to be Roman
Catholics to become Irish Catholics. He described
their conduct in 1814, and from the course which
they thought proper to pursue with respect to the
regulations contained in the Bill then brought into
Parliament, appealed to the House it it were pos-
sible to treat with men, so little to he. depended
upon. When the rescript of Signor Qearentotti
was received, and when they were told by him
that they ought to receive rite measure then in
agitatiOn with gratitude, he she led they had come
to resolutions, in direct opposition to the reseript,
and to the advice transmitted front Rome; and
thus at mice ceased to be Roman Catholics.- :He
next relyl an extract from a pamphlet written by
a Reverend' and Venerable Character, whO had for
sortie years filled it high office in the country
with
great credit. This pamphlet, published in 1814,
ahewed, that according to the tenets of the
Ito-
rttan Catholics, all: oaths taken by them. which
were considered to he Irejudicial to the Church,
were held to be null an void. He added his mite
of approbation to that which the work referred
to had previously called forth, and concurred
iu
the view which its author took of that part of the
question. He censured the remit restoration of
the JesuitS, acid react part of his Majesty's' first
Speech from the Throne, to shew how strong.
the pledge Which had been given at' the commence-
wits, that the Coristitn-
ment of the present reign
tion should be preserved in Church and State. He
was most anxious tet keep that Conatitution stn-
impaired, rend should therefore feel it to he his
duty ton vote against the motion.
The ishop of NortiVicit explained.
The Earl of HaattoWnY considered the chain
which bound men to the Government under which
they lived to consist of an infinite variety,of links.
The religion' of the State was one of these, and lie
could not think the chain that bound him whn was
not of the established religion quite so atroug, as
that which be bore, who belonged:to the national
church. lint,the question on which a politician
bad to decide was, whether the chain in which this
link wasavanting.appeared to be stigieientlYstrone
for all practical Purposes, Ile asserted the
ttlatire of this to be proven with respect to the

•
'#Clatttnllca, ltv expetience rat d hist-ore: It‘ras
ou all hank that it was very ,lesirable to
conciliate the Catholics, if this could be Anne.
If then this were s 4 desirable, surely the attempt
ought to he made by going into tire Committee.
Tt Irad been argued by a Reverend Prelate,
that if the Catholics were admitted into Nita-
meat,. and into the Army and Navy, the, two
Houses of Parliameitt, the Army and the Navy
would': inimediately. become CatholiC. Was it
rational
.to expect this"?- In England it ivas im-
possible, but vier) in Ireland there was,no.'reason
to fear the Protestant interest would be in danger.
He could not admit the:proptiety of throe dis-
tinctions made in the army, which would allow
i'Catholic to command one regiment, but.which
denied him the command of two. When a
man had devoted 'the best part of his life to a
particular profession; had shed his blood, and
was covered with wounds in 'our service, he
was of opinion that sufficient p. I et.ges were ob-
tained for his fidelity, and no danger trim such
persons could rationally be .apnrebetided,'Save that
which might grow out of the hard return that r
tinder the present system fm meritorious services.,
system be held to he unjust, and was satis-
fied, trim the progress the question had
.aireatkr
made, and was still making, that it could not
long continue. Jr the British Parliament
would lay down the -conditions on which they
.would— admit the Roman Catholics to a parti-
cipation in the privileges enjoyed by other snb-
ject%, they (the Catholics) wol.ld do one of-two
tlitngs p,--therwould accept the 'offer thus made;
or they would say they could not avail themselves
of it, and in' either case, Parliament would have
done its duty. All thtit could tie done to relieve
the Catholics ought to be done. Thing's could
not remain as they were, and those who enter.
t;linell this opinion must, he should think"; concur
with him in the propriety of going into, a. Coln-,
mittee would. bind them down to no speci-
fic measure), in order to ascertain *tv'hat could
-be done to conciliate Ott vititioners.
The Earl: of Lorettroot, Was pi opinion, when.a
motion like the
~present was submitted to the
House, that. they bad a right to look at the object
kept in view by those 'Who brought the guess ion
forward, Which, in. the present instance, was
known tobe boundtll by Ito partial measure of
redress, but .which went to admit the Roman Ca-
" tholics to equal ptivilege:s with.' the Protestants.
He bail a right to assume this, when it was re-
membered that the Bill bron,4lt int:q the House Ira
1814 was thrown out by the friends of the 'Ca-
tholics., because the omisSient iii the clause ena-

Wing them to sit in Parliatnent was moved. and
carried in the Committee on The
hiemois of Catholic
.Emancipation, instead of at,
tempting to make' what they could of it by modi-
fying the regulations now in force with'respect to
Catholics in the Aptly and Navy, gave up the Bill
altogether,
.tletermined to have all or nothing.
This remembered, Ime had a right to assume a 'si-
milar feeling nreni eftisted, and to act accoroinly,.
Au alteration in the-present mode ot nominatink
the iiishups would afford na security for which he
would give 'any thing. It was not the manner of
their, nominationi 'but 'the influence under -which•
they afterwards waled to,.which he most objected.,
Theitestion w si;uply this—Was Parliament
disposed to grant the concession claimed ? If they
were, it Might not to be made in an ungracionS
manlier, but ought to be accorded unencumbered
with useless restriction. The principles of Protes,t-
antistn Pervaded every part of Our present system.
The religion of the State connected itself with the
proceedings of the two' Houses of Parliament,
and the Judges, on their Circuits by law, or, at
least by long established custom, which
he said, to have ilie•effect of !me, could not open
their commissions. till they had been to the, Parish
church to attend Diving, worihip, In every part
of the system this connection between the Csta-
blished Government and the Established ''Cimnreh,
has been recognized and acted. upon. Time goes..
tiara now befri're them 'was therefore, whether or
nut the whole system of the emintry should be
citahg.!(l.. The -propositions brO.ight before the
Mouse went to place the Protestant and Catholic
Churches on the same tooting (the endowment ex-
cepted), and the moment Oils was effected, the Par.
liausent 'WOidd cease to be. a' Protestant Parlia-
ment.- He did not, mean to say there would not
be a majority ot Protestant Members in both.
Houses, but they would no longer have a might
CO' call what by' law they ought' to be,
aProtest ant PailiaMent.. A twinge must take
..place in our w hole eyfitem, and was this a step which,
their Lordships were not prepared to take ? The
effect of the measure, if Carried', instead of pro
ilmicing that minion and harmony which its advocates
contemplated,' would, he was satisfied,' he quite of
an opposite character. It was said things could,
.not remain ai they were, hilt he wooll ask the ad
VoCates cif Emaactpatibliiftheycould remain at that
point to_whichthey wished.to carry them? He con.:
tended rid?, Was not to be expected from the princi-
plmis of the itoman Catholics, Which it was known
' %Verb opposed to toleration The result of the best'
:attention he could give this subject, was a convic-
tion, tbatac preserve all that was valuable in the
Constithtion, the connection between Church
and State tittistbe upheld, To. tnake'elf religions
equal would leave .the effect of ormettling the
mimils of 'nen, and would be pregnant, wi:h dan-
ger. He could not consent to the present motion.
Many Specific -Measure wire broiight forward, lie
would give it his best consideration y but feeling
as he did that the preservation of the Constitution
depended upon,theGovernment remaining essen.
Bally Proteit'ant, faVriur propol,ition
which did not afford ample tecuritics for the
maintenance of the. Established -Church.

ne-Earl cif DARNLAY was not disposed to deny
that the conduct of some individuals among the
Catholics had been improper ; but this he Con-
tended ought•not to operate against the measure
recommended to the adoption of Parliament, with
a view to cOnciliate the Catholics generally. He
thought it desirable that a lasi' sbould pass to ad-
mit the Catholics to equal-Privllegei'with the Pro-
testants, on their 'taking such oaths to support
the existing establishments, ai they.could consei.
entionsly take. Besides Catholic Emancipation,
many other Changes were raiiiiredto make-iroand
enj,iy all the advantages which naturally belonged
to her. r% different system of.goverfiment,, tihctr
ter adtainistrittiou 'of lath, end an extension of the

!jeorefiti of erftwation among the tower ordersovere
desfralilv, but the measure now under conThierkif:

tibn was a sine qua non. Without it Ireland would
never be tranquil, • •
Lord GRENvti.tu remarked', that in all men.
sures bf legislation inconveniences and d mgerg
must be,halanced, and selihnn, if ever, could one
be adopted- froli Which evil +night not be extract•
ed, If, theret'ure- some 'evil consequences should
be anticipated from the concessions now called for
iir favour'of the Catholics, it did:not follow that it

was preferable to remain where they were. It was
from his anxiety to preserve onimptateri tfie
stitution in Chord) and State that he wished the
Subject now brought under their consideration to
.andergo the tidiest inquiry. Nothing could tend
more to strengthen our present establishinent than
union and harmony in Ireland ; nothing conhl
endinger it more than the discord and hostility
which resulted from the system now acted upon.
thou4ht danger was not likely to arise Innis
admitting CathtiPCS to seats iil Parliament, and to
situations at the Bar, and in tile Army and Navy,
Which were not at present open to them. The
Noble Earl (the Earl of Liverpool) hid argued,
that if the present grievance. 'were removed.,
one still greater would remain behind ; but
if the question was to aggravate or soothe
discontent, he thought nothing could be
risked 'by departing from the present
He did not know that any man could be

presumptuous enough to answer the question that
had been'put as to the possibility of rennaining at
that point to ivhich it WiiS now proposedto go,
but he saw no danger in quitting that where•t bey
now were. here were few greater natnesnin his.
tory titan that of King William the Third : Ga
was the first Statesman who prott•ssed and who
acted on the principle of :toleration. This Was
in fact the principle of the Revolution, but it
had been unhappily departed n front with re.]
sect to Ireland, and a 'code of penal laws
adopted, the Most persecuting' and bigotted that
had ever disgraced any Country. tVhat %VHS now
attempted wits in facrouly'un aort to retnrn tO
the true spirit of thetonstitminn. Fie inocecdedi
to chew the importance of meeting the wishes of
the Catholics, and maintained the measure on.

der discussion might to be• conceded, first, he.
Cause it was their duty; secondly, became it was.
their interest-; and thirdly, and above all, because
it was now called for by the public in language no
ipnger to be resisted.
Earl BATHORST took 2 general view of the
various Opinions entertained. by the friends to
Catholic Emancipation, lie objected to go into
tt Chininittee ivithouttiome sreeific plan before
them ; as if they Came'out of it without doing any,
thing to meet the wishes of 'the. Petitioners, dis-
,appointinent would be the consequence, and iu
ie Ctirnmittee, father• than do this,•they might
be indneed to agree to that, which, on better eon.
Sideratihn, they would think impolitiC. When it
was slinWn that the Established Church would be
safe Catholic elaiMs.were'conceded, he.
inighV,bedisposed tel entertain the•measure. lila
Noble Friend had said things could-not stand asi
alley were.' He r would answer this by saying,
things had stood 'where they were for some time,
and he wiml,l not consent to,.quit. the grost•rd 'bn
hvbich he had rested so tOng, to prqs.throqlvhogs
and' morasses, till some spot could be pointed 65nt
to him, where he could stand as' well. if they de..
parted • froth where `they were at ?resent,
.they
'plight not be able to stop till they hail gone on
from measure to measure, and made the situatinn
'of the Protestant subject worse than that of the
Roman Catholic; and while this was done, and
the Protestant ascendancy thus sacrificed, he
saw no:prospect of,satisfyiug the Catholics of ire.
land. With this,feeling tie would not consent to.
gO into is Committee in order to seek for Some
plan which it might be well to adopt, meet«
sure recommended could not be yentrired
without making a fundamental eliaoge in our
system, and for such a change' he was not prepar.
ed. He was: anxious to preserves the Constitution,
and to keep the Church on the rock which it had
been placed upon by the Reformation, and front
which he :trusted in God it would never be dis.
, ,

Earl GilltY had heard with pain what had been
said by a Reverend Prelate, that though the Pro.
testant religion might safety he
.tolerated in a Ca-
tholic country, it was not so with the Catholic.
religion in a Protestant country, He had till now
thought the Protestant religion.had been the Mre
tolerant. The, distinction Made reminded him of
the language of the Duke of Guise to his assassin,
which one of our Poets had put into the ,south of
Tamerlatie---" Now mark the diiferetace 'twist my''
religion and thine. Thine bids thee take my life,
mine teaches me to forgive the attempt." Ue
could not admit that the Catholics enjoyed complete
toleration while they were open to their fellow,sub.
jects, Such exclusion to him appeared to be iiieonsii-
tent with the principles of tole, ation liie bed never
placed this question on the untenable ground of
right, but he was of opinion, it' some danger cook'.
not be proved likely to result from admitting Ca-
tholics into all the Offices of the State, the exclo•
sian was unjust, and ought - not to exist. No
such danger, had been proved to his satisfac-
tion. The Noble Earl opposite. (the Earl of Li-
verpool), had indeed said, if the measure were
adopted—if : Catholics were admitted into Par-
liament, the Parliament could no longer be calied
exclusively_ Protestant,- and therefioe he consi-
dered it to: be fraught with danger ; but this
to him: (Earl Grey) appeared, to be danger
the most futile and imaginary 'heeled ever been
urged. against the claims °Ft he Catholics. it was
no argtlinent against the proposed concessions to
say That the Catholics had other bordens. to bear
which they could not be freed from, such as that
utpayingf tithes to the established Church. But

theseT olber , burdens formed it very strong argit4
ureic. against: those which could be
taken off..
Catholies Were How kept down and proscribed.
They weft precluded front rising in the Army or
at the Bar. ,The. policy of the present systetn of
exclusion Was this, that the .Cotholics were encou•
raged to acquire:skill in eloquence and other popular
arts, and these they were almost compelled to use
*gains! the' state iu which therwereditin,,Hri,,danti
to theciithbli6s Of 1.4.1g14,)d, that
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:sheets superior to that of the Irish Cot
the questiou of security, the ergnments the
nes. Prelates were itiCOl3Vl34C4lt. :That the heat
security was to ,he found in. attacithig sod con-
oor -Catholic brethren was his. most
firm • eon viet But then it was said ►hat
it. was ioconsisteut with the security of a
PI ill esitillt Government to admit to all the
offices of state its Catholic subjects. This ,
was the great ground on which the claims of the
Irish Catholics %vete withstood—this was said to
be the pelky, and therefore it was the practice,
of the British. Protestaot Government. But was
it the policy of other Protestant States Was it
even the practice a the British Government io its
forel4ll polity ? The rvotestatit Government of
when extended by trenties, under the
sanetion ant guarantee of the Briti,sh Govern-
mew., titer a 'urge territory. by the vantess s!i-
polation of the Treaty of Union, admitted its
Catholic subjects to a full participation in the
tights and privileges of its Protestant subjects;
This was it sufficient answer to the question. of po-
licy. On a view of the whole. question,coptintting
stun in the persuasion that both
,justice and policy
(anvil upon their Logaships to grant those conces-.
slims for which the Catholics petitionetf, the mu-
thus should have his most hearty vote..
The Loan CnasceLeon, referring to the latter
part of the argument of the Noble Earl who spoke
last, observed, that the case of the admission of
the Catholic subjects of the King of the, Nether-
lands to all the privileges of his Protestant totb•
leers, had no analogy to the ease of the Irish Ca-
tholicsa bee.ausc the union Of Holland with the
Netherlands, was 'Abe titian of a Protestant rata-
blishment with a Catholic estobliihment. They
met on equal terms ; under a Protestant Go-
vernment„ certainly, but with equal rights, and '
with the pouter of tanking ?Ina' terms in the
Union. A to the great qutetoion now before •
their Lordships, l,is objection to it arose from
the nature of the Constitution of this country
as by law .established. His objection arose
from the supremacy of the Crown over the
llettabli-hed Chtircit, The ascemlancy of the Pro-
testant Faitablishffient was the very basis—the
most distinctive feature in the Constitution,. For
the procif of this, he eppealed to the Act of Settle-
ment and the Coronation Oath. Supposing that
what was asked .I;ty the Catholics was now con-
ceded, and that the offices of the Protestant Crown
were filled by Popish Offitere, what would be
the • feelings of the gr cut body of the eot»-
Munity I It was not his intention to. go into the
. detail of thy moments on the present occasion.
But with respect to the motion for a Committee,
be could not understand it in the way in which it
was represented by its supporters, namely, as a
mere Committee of Inquiry. It would be better
at once to bring forward a Bill for the Emancipa•
tion of the Catholics. If the Committee did not
eptl in this, the appointment of it would not serve
the purpose of those who now asked for it ; and
if it did, then it would, have been so much time
;lid trouble saved. But as his opinions on this
question had never changed—as he had heard no
sir foment of weight to induce him to change them
conviction remained strong and nnaltere4.
The Bialtop of Noawteti bold a few words in
explanation, hsdid the Lon) C}I4NCELLOR.
The question was then loudly called for. when
di vision took place, and there_appearett—•
Contents 04 Proxies an Total 90
froxies
Majority against the Motion..
Adjourned at Half-past One &Clock till Mon-
" .day.

GIII4;NT, MAY 13.

• if nations differ esbentially in opi►uion on many
points, there is one in which all sensible minds arc
*greed, all men who love their country and the
independence of Europe : it is the humbling abuisse.
meld of that nation which seems to hold' all the
rest en regie (under excise), and which, sme of
impunity by its insular situation, sows at its plea-
sure the seeds of war on the Continent.

BUONiPARte would have attained this object,
if had not given himself up to the insatiable
thirst of ambition. Elt is the man who was best.
acquainted with England, and who inflicted upon
it the most dangerous wound.
It is not probable that the Sovereigns of En-
rope will adopt a complete system or prohibition
91 English productions, though called for by the
intirests of their people. It therefore behoves the
latter to form a Sacred Alliance,• to proscribe,
without mercy. all those productions, the intro-
duction of which upon the Continent has the don•
ble advantage of destroying the national industry,
and promoting the prosperity of the common ene-
my. An Antwerp Journal has just published a
idea on this subject, that of establishing
an dna-British Society. " In order to be received
a member of this Society,' says the Journal in
tlnestion, ". it Would be reqUiredirs-romiscor to
swear never to buy either wholesale or retail, and
never to wear any article of English manufacture
----never to buy Colonial prodoce coming from the
English colonies, or conveyed by English ships.
The members far from seeking to conceal them-
selves, shall all wear a distinguishing badge—for
eiantple, a flower, a ribband, or a button, with
•
this inscription, Nihit Anglicum. It should not
be permitted to speak at the Assemblies of any
'thing but of the glory of a nation which knows.
how to impose:privations on itself tbr the general
,good, of the patriotism which commands them,
and of the aversion which the pretensions and the
monopoly of the English ought to inspire ; no-
thing should be' secret in these meetings ; the
public might be present nt them. When one seeks
only the common happiness, one need not fear
the light of day. Kings could not but applaud
thisgenerous institution ; Princes and Ministers,
in order to make themselves-popular, would per-
haps consider it has an honour to become mem-
bers of it. The merchants, tradesmen, &à. went('
be ashamed of en ;aging in a commerce which
render them objects of pnblic hatred and,
contempt."—(Journal tie Gand. May 13.)

GRAND PEDINTRIAN MATCH,
WoliNtWanP*lllllo.-11AKEtt and Estop./ coMpletSd sixty
ratites ea► h on Timmlay ; hot the former had the advantage
of having fioiihed t,t hait-past eight, while the latter had nut
done till a quarter before ten. Yesterday (the ninth day)
'Froth started tit Itls minutes past four; and at four in the itf.
titration limas bad completed 137 miles, knz•oN 854

We received this morning the Nils Papers of
lVednesday last. The following are Extracts :
" PARIS, MAY 14.—His Rvy4l Highness the
Infant Don Francis Paul was visited yesterday by
he Duke of Orleans and the Duke de Richelieu.

" A Journal of yesterday stated that a conspi-
racy had been discovered in A rrftgon ; but letters
from t'atnpel►intt and Bayonne make no mention

of any such event.

" Ills Majesty, who bas not quitted his Palace
fox ;cline days, went out yesterday in his carriage.
Accounts from Florence the 28th ult. say
yesterday evening Madame Catalani strived here
from Rome, after meeting with a serious accident
on the frontiers of Tuscany, which bail nearly
proved fatal to her and her suite. In a dangerous
road the traces of the first tour horses aaapped,
and the two others not being able to bear the
weight of the carriage run back, by which.
means it was thrown over a precipice before
any of the persons in it Int,4 time 4* get
oat. The Carriage was much damaged, anal the
horses berioubly injured, hut almint by it Oracle
the travellers escaped with only souse slight

contusions.

" FIVE PER CENTS.--TUEMAY--Gfir. 60c.
" lIA.MBLIIIGH, APRIL 2J.---Letters from Berlin
nnnounce, that the new Council of State has de-
cided by a great majority in favour of s general
freedom of commerce and industry in .the kingdom
of Prussia.

"Anita), MAY 1 misunderstanding
which exists, between our Court and that of Riu
Janeiro appears to take a serious turn. If we
may credit the reports in circulation, a consider-
able force will be shoilly pat in motion, and as-
sembled in the Provinces of Leon and Estrama-
dura. tit is said even ' that orders have been
issued for the march of twelve Regiments of
Infantry, and some Regiments of Cavalry; and
it is added, that Captains General Castanos
and Elio are to have the command of the troops
that are to be assembled on the frontiers of Por-
tugal. A corps of artillery from the Royal
School of. Segovia will proceed itntuediately to

Badajoz.•!
[This article contains accounts from the Ha.
vannall of the 23d January, stating, that consi.
derable apprehensions, were entertained at Ja-
maica of 'a rising of the Negroes, but much later
intelligence from
.the latter island slams thacthese
rumours, if they existed at all, were unfounded.)

The latest intelligence from Spain, through the
medium of the French Papers, fully confirm the ac.
count exclusively given in Tits Sus several days
ago, of the marching of ISpanish troops to the
frontiers of Portugal, and probable hostilities be-
tween the two countries.

This morning we received Jamslut Papers to
the Ist of April.
(From the novel (Ju,ttre of the 90th March.)

We learn from an Officer belonging to the In•
dependent Forces, who arrived bete in the
schooner Minorco, that the Chief oFthe Army of
New Granada, VioeututLea, having had an in.
timat ion that General Itloatt.t.o watt marching for
the Province of -Verteinela, posted himself in the
Valley of St. Joe*, attacked him, and completely
routed his force ; himself escaped to the town of
Cue.ita, _mortally wounded, whets be died, and
was iwerred at eleven o'clock at' night. ifis
death was inadvertently wade public shortly after

aft Officer from :tic i'nfel tor, %den tie was im-
Prisosied and cnt off from all communication.

Private aeeonnts received in this City state,
that Generol BOLIVAR had Preen well received at
Venctuelit, and made President j and that Atitni-
tal Barn,s entntnmeett his Innetions on the Ist of
this month as Goveruor ut Margurtretta.

(Frain the same rare.)

We learn that a French merchantman lately ar-
rived at St. Thomas's from Muntenia with
30,000 stand of arms tin hoard; and several Offi-
cers Who served under BOONAPAKTR had also
reached that island, to juin the Revolutionists
in South America.

The article that we have inserted from the
Ghent Paper, which ought to be under the con-
troul of a Sovereign ill the highest degree in-
debted to the Mitish Government, is so hostile
to this Country, that we trust it will attract the
particular attention of our Rulers, and prevent
the repetition of such articles as have often ap-
peared in the same Jonrnal, and which were of

he most offensive and injurious nature to the in-
crests of British Commerce, as well as insulting
o- the British Character. • •

We give in another column, from the German
Papers, a very curious article respecting the
Princess of WALES, extracted from " The Journal
of on English Traveller,- a work recently publish-
ed on the Continent, supposed to have been
written by her Royal Highness. We know not
whether this is are fact, hot the documents, which
it appears from the article in question, have been
published in this work, must have been furnished
by the Princess herself.

Mr. ADAMS, the American Ambassaior, anrL Ca-
are to embark nn the Ist June, in the ship
Washington, Captain Fottrz AN, for New York,

We heartily congratulate nor Countrymen upon
the decision of the Catholic Question in the House
of Lords hist night. ~The increasing Majorities
in both Houses spew that OUT Legislators are be-
come fully aware of the dangers which would.
arise from a participation of POPERY with the pro-
testant Establishment in thepinsession of political
power. But while our Constitution is supported.
by the sound wisdom of such men Its the Loan
CHANCELLOR, the Earl of Livettenot, and other
Members of AdMinistration, as well as by. the
great body of the Hereditary Counsellors of the
State, and the House of Commonst, we have little
to fear from the efforts of tho,e who aim at poli-
tical power in order to sap our Constitution and
erect upon its ruins all the perils of a POPISH
lERA,Rc Y iVe regret that we have not been able
to allot a grepter space to the maiden Speech of
the Bishop of LANDAIT, whose powerful pen has
been •most actively- and forcibly employed for a
long period in supporting our best interests in
Church and State.

HARWICH', MAY 16.--liesterday arrived the Dart (bye-
boat), of Dover, Geo. Wilkinson master, from t'alais, with
passengers.-This morning arrived the Henry Freeling
packet, Captain Mason, front Ilelvoetsloys, with mails and
passengers. On her passage, yesterday at noon, about eleven
leagues from Orfordness, this packet was brought to by a
Turkish cot vette, sad ordered to go down to another cor-
vette On company), the Commodore, who, on finding that she
was itt his Majesty's croploy, allowed the 1)1140 immediately
to proceed. These corvettes, carrying each 20 guns, hoisted
Spanish colours, and said they were boom{ to St. Petersburgh
with dispatches t but they are no doubt manned by Turks,
and it is apprehended are destined 'to cruise against the
Swedes:_ in all probability two ulthe three Turkish ships of
war observed in lat. 40.20. N, long. 9. 55. W. by the Wolga,
arrived off Dover, as stated io your Paper of resterday.—
They did not appear to lie desirous of using expedition : there
was little wind, and their top-gallant sails were not set. The
other of the three ships tepresented in the Dover Report as
Turkish frigates has in .altprabability proceeded along the
West of Ireland to the coast of Sweden.
Butsyet., Mn' Itt.--TheiThotoas, Bell, arrived atthis port
from st, Vincent's, was fought to and boarded on the Ist
April, in hit. 80. by two I surgent privateers, who took from
hint a spar and a turtle, typo a promise of payment, but after
carrying them on board, made a signal to 'bins to 'depart,
which be was obliged to

STATZ PRISONRRS.--lil the Co►►rt of K;ng's
Bench this morning, the. State j'►iyr,r►ers, Pi
Hooper, Ittisort, and Mistlewood, were brought
from the Tower, and arraigned upon the Indict-
ment against them for High Treason. They all
pleaded Not Guity. The COURT allowed them to
name any Counsel they chose to conduct their de-
fence. They were remanded back to the Tower.
The tr•isl is to come on the 9th of June.

---
The PRINCE RECENT rode out on horseback yes=
terdsy, attended by Sir BENJAMIN BLOOMFIELD.
Yesterday evening, shout seven, o'clock, her
Royal Highness the Princess CHARLOTTE, aCC°II"
ponied by Ptince LeopoLD, arrived at CameVora
House to dinner, from Claremont. Their Royal
Highnesses came in a baronche and four, accom+
ponied by two out.riders, and both appeared,in
excellent health.
'Yesterday Mr. Means, the King's Metsenger,
was sent nfl' with dispatches abroad.
Lieutenant NOVVORTHY, 2d West iodia Regi-
ment, arrived yesterday at the Secretary of State's
Office with thwart:hes from the Hay of Honduras.
Letters are in town front Jaquernel to the 19"
of March, but they are silent on the sithject of
President PRTION'S death, whence, iris concluded,
that the report at it is. unfounded. Count be-
, Mosaox's death is also supposed to be incorrect,

SHIP NEWS.

Dan-, MAY I 6.—Cetne down front le Il tik
the Providence, for Bengal I Gltkr, for 3sturkt
ation, for Quebec ; anti.titanual g
illation, ar.olderi t'
New Brunswick ; Ind trailer, with thewhele of O.
outward-bound for tbrir difereut destillstOlt.
ra
Ail ived, and sailed fur Quebec, theTto, r"
Shielda. .
Jamaica, in 35 days,
Far.Dsourir, NAY /4.--Wind W.---Arriverl II
Princess Charlotte packet, oith a Atli, fr'l
the American brig Jape Coatis, Motion, fo
Norfolk, in 2 days. lite orttcrs for the IA
Sidmouth packer, far New York Aft} 000701
and the Queensberry packet, f orb aio, 10,1
fmtn Croolied !sigma; iii
reached this port, but they wili n sail till t'
morning.

TIS 0 Aiiiiii Y,
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gtorTuntGibleE4e:PCorEigittracinelLaßne;egerilptinhiti!.Tilersobilitee:liPitotetewaritaudOlt.‘titei'leNtengilfra- 1411-14°
whose duties do not require their falling intotheig7oo
Pay-Masters, Quarte r-Nlastei 4, ;her °ql, figi
Veterinary-Surgeons, shall in ante tetllSbe'.,
ing Uniform, viz. pi
CoaT.—Long, plain, single-hrenstedoritba. St If
wings, with buttons, cuffs, awl cellar tel*lmidere:44
or plain), the same as the' Vnifotta of belt ref .»,, ,‘,t,
meads. 4
Cogger) Her.,—The Pay-Idaster and ~.‘
wear the regimental looping, &e. the former.
In.tisiiion
feather. The hat of the Surgeon; Assistellia 400
Veterinary-Sol/gems, is to be plain, With it !Pr
and loop,. .No feather. i:Wift 04
Tlie appointroews, and other articles 44
Pr
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cording to the regimental pattern Soissli.
The sword-hell to he wore under the coat. 10 ~41
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Cie cumcLinces baring rendered it necessatted 0
General Order of the Is (at 6114'2 /
of the General Regulatious of the /1/12./9, ‘''' ~ .e.O
Chief is pleased to order as follows, so, , doiviiiir..:o
That when a Reginsent embarks, which 0 n'oyolts
cruiting Company upon its estabOrbatint, s two
Officers and Non-commissioned Offiti'll 814. It rill
islisb merit of that Company, shall be 14fift . ..-1 roisi,
Pow of carrying on the Recrng wt
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I.)epllt, of the Regiment ; and that tiessweo
met% shrill also be left at the Men. . o,4looPiti
Should the Regiment be destined foe* !°1 toishind• 4
mit allow of a Itecruitiag Ousip•any osi its 11,0 , 000, ii
Officer commandiug will in that'd se selret4.4o, Iritli!,
an experienced Lieutenant, for the shove 1;`,4 DIOS
Proportion of Noll-commissioned oSori,....,oreht
sprcified in the margin.--(4.,Seriectits, 4 on, to
Drunitarrs.) woof, 00,0
.lit the event of 1 Regiment bring feat It'', 10100 al
cacomstaores .1S may r ender it necessary ttlif IV,
proportion of Officers, and Non•ccnructifTto OW Zii
twine for the Recruiting Service, "r nil" t '4°4601*1-1°
"lents R tirrib,4 arrangement still he 0,-,,k ro
be givers respcctiug the dialtlblo of exJ.L tee - jiti
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recruiting. niuit in a great Measure depend ty
reit i„
of itO itmlivduals crop t CAII-MlLiii4jOcer. ifi 1 0:b0
the utmost attention in Cometandiri% tr orefi tor
lection of Officers, and Non-commaPlitr Well fell
they employ in the superintendence rg .-Inthe voouo,o,
Pittl*, and on Usti ltCettlititig StrriCfr Sn'oh,feJ 001701,0
perioaall7 recipcineib2e, that none are t"o,,i %eel talcs
t,rt•int services, that arc not in ercri'7,4hc 0;
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