The Sun.
London, England, 1844-01-08 00:00:00

IRELAND.

' hope you will continue to look after this important
case, and particularly to the mode of striking the jury.
Mr. Latouche—l shall use my best discretion.
As the parties were retiring from the office,
Mr. Cantwell observed—l would not strike such ;a
I panel for any consideration. Nothing could induce
me to sign such a registry of bigotry.
1

ANTI-CORN-LAW MEETING.--
On Thursday evening a inceting was held' in ;the
Ebenezer Chapel, Bacup, t) promote the subscrip.
tions to the League Rind. of 1000001.
The Rev. SIMPSON TODD, Baptist minister of the
place, opened the mee,ing by singing and prayer.
EDMUND DA wsws, EsQ., of Mount Pleasant, was
in the chair.

STATE TRIALS-THE SPECIAL JURY. I,

On Saturday evening an express reached town,
giving an account of the proceedings on Friday, when
striking the jury in Dublin for the impending State
trials. The list chosen on the previous day was 48,
but from this number the Crown had the right to,
strike off 12, and the traversers other 12. Ten of the
persons whose names were struck off by the Crown
are repeaters, and, therefore, as the original number •
of repeaters on the list was hut 12, two only remain
on the jury who are to try the traversers. The jury
will consist of the first 12 out of these 24 who answer
their names when the reduced list is called over in
Court.

The Rev. S. TODD, and the Rev. TuomAsDAw-
SON, Baptist IP:Mister, moved and seconded the reso-
lution to " si....pport the League in its endeavours to
obtain a rep eat of the corn monopoly," which David
Wlntehea(l., Esq., supported, followed by Henry
Ashwore" Esq.. of Turton, who stated that the po-
Pulatir.n of the forest of Rossendale 300 years ago
cons*.sted only of ten families, comprising
.eighty
scrals; and that these eighty persons memorialised
"chat they might be allowed to use their exertions in
manufacturing pursuits, and be hoped that the thou-
sands of individuals who now appeared in Rossendale
as the descendants of these eighty souls, would show
that they possessed the same laudable spirit of
enterprise. He claimed a sympathy with the
Inhabitants of Rossendale because he was
also a descendant of one of those ten fa-
milies ; because the bones of his forefathers were
mingled with those of their fathers, in the hills and
valleys by which they were surrounded. To show
what manufactures and machinery had done for Ros-
sendale, he needed only to remind them that one acre
of land in Bacup was now worth as much as the
whole forest was worth two hundred and fifty years

DUBLIN, FRIDAY, FOUR P.M.

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The parties concerned, for the Crown and the
traversers, met to-day to reduce the of 48 down
to 24. The Crown struck off 12-10 of whom are
Roman Catholics, and the greater number, it is said,
members of the Repeal Association. The agent for
the traversers also struck off 12, leaving the follow-
ing as the jury :-
1. James Hamilton, 14, Upper Ormond-quay, wine-merchan,
2. James C. Papworth, 106, Marlborough-street, architect
3. Captain Edward Roper, 15, Eccles-street
4. Stephen Parker, 2, St. Andrew-street, pawnbroker
5. Edward Clarke, Esq., 128, Stephen's-green West
6. Benjamin Eaton, 8, Princes-street, builder
7. James Hamilton, 15, Chamber-street, ironmonger
8. Francis Faulkner, 78, Grafton-street, grocer and wine-
merchant
9. J. Croker, 46, North Great George's-street, wine-mer-
chant
10. Henry Flynn, 25, William-street, pianoforte-maker
11. Henry Thompson, 28, Eustace-street, wine-merchant
12. Anson Floyd, 19, Wellington-quay, china warehouse
13. John Rigby, 175, Great Brunswick-street, gun-maker
14. Robert Hanna, 12, Henry-street, wine-merchant
15. John Holraes, 10, William-street, merchant

Mr. ConnEN then said, that having seen some of
the Bacup people at the great meetings in Manches-
ter and witnessed the unostentatious manner with
which they announced their subscriptions, he was
very desirous of meeting the inhabitants of Bacup;
and, from what he saw of the meeting (for he was a
bit of a phrenologist) he thought that those he had
seen in Manchester were but a fair sample of the
sack. He then exposed, in a most excellent speech,
many of the fallacies which are brou7lit forward in
opposition to the League ; instructing them how to
meet the opponents of the League, who talk about
"protection of labour," the "evils of machinery,"
and other nonsense of the same description.
Mr. R. R. AlooßE commenced announcing the
subscriptions by stating that the gentlemen from
their own neighbourhood had already subscribed the
following sums to the fund :-Robert Munn, Esq..
5001.; John Lord, Esq., 300/. ; Thomas, David, and
Peter Whitehead, Esqs., 3001. The following sums
were subscribed in the meeting, and announced by Mr.
Moore :-James Hall, 1/. ; John Howorth, Shaw-
dough, I/. ; Richard Howorth, Water, 1/. ; James
Moorhouse, 1/. ; John Woodhead, ss. ; James Nut-
tall, 1/. ; Richard Picup, 53. ; William Rows, 1/. ;
John 11. Law, 2/. ; John Pilling, 1/. ; George Ash-
worth, Waterfoot, 21.; John Whittaker, 11.; John
Nuttall, 10s. ; John Pilling, 1/. ; Dawson and Ho-
worth, 50/. ; Joseph Travers, 1/. ; John Barcroft, 11.;
John Nuttall, 1/. ls.; James Ashworth ss. ; Joseph
Clegg, 1/. ; Henry Ashworth, 1/. ; James
Howorth, 1/. ; John Wood, 7s. ; Dionysius
Law, 11. ; Richard Ifolt, ss. ; A Friend, 1/. ; J.
Whittles, Old Clough, 1/. ; Moses Whitehead, 10s. ;
A Friend, ss. ; John Howorth, 11.; James Ashworth,
1/. ; James Ashworth, Acre Mill, 51. ; Wm. Hudson,
21. 2s. ; A Friend, 2s. 6d.; A Friend, it. ; " Bees
Wing." ss. ; " Well Wisher," I/. ; " Total Repeal,"
4/. ; Richard Howorth, 1/. ; George Nuttall, 10s.;
" A Friend to the cause," 51. ; A Friend, by Mr.
Munn, 51. ; C. Nuttall, 1/. ; Lawrence Ingham,
2s. 6d.; A Friend, 2s. 6d. ; A Friend, Is. ; Benjamin
Ashworth, 1/. ; A Friend, 55.; William Trewitt, 10s.;
A Friend, 10s.; " One who does not like to see a
working man carving a quarter of a pound of bacon
amongst his family of eight children," 10s. ; George
Hamilton, Irwell-terrace, 25/.; John Fowler, 55.;
Jas. Blackburn, ss. ; A Friend, 1/. ; J. Howorth, Lane,
1/. ; John King, Rawtensall, 1/. ls.; " Nothing last
year," 2s. ; A Friend, 1/. ; James Dearden, 11.; Henry
Whittles, 305.; A Friend at Longholme, 11.; J. Holme,
11.; A Friend, ls. : A Friend, Is.; A Friend, by Mr.
Lord, 1/. ; A Friend (new), IL ; " First chapter of
Genesis, 29th verse," 1/. • James Hargreaves, 55.; A
Friend to " free trade," 11. ; John Pickup, 1/. ; Henry
Gregory, 55.; John Earnshaw (new), 21 guineas ;
Timothy Nelson, 55.; Thomas and John Aitken
(new), 10 guineas ; John Nuttall (double), 65.;
James Emmett (last year 25.), now 6s. ; A Friend,
55.; A Friend, ss. (paid) ; John Mills, 2s. 6d. ; " A
Friend to the cause," ss. ; A Friend, ss. (paid) • John
Lord, Tong, Ti. (double) ; Henry Tattersall, 21.;
Isaac Taylor, 2s. 6d. ; A Friend, 2s. Gd.; John
Bareroft, 2s. 6d.; William Hopwood, 10s.; Joseph
Moss, 1/. Is. ; A Friend, ls. ; " Success to the
League," 21. 2s. ; Well-wisher," 1/. ; A Friend,
ss. (paid) ; " A Friend to the League," 10/. ;
James Ivison, 55.; William Holt (double), 55.;
James Hargreaves (new), 2s. 6d.; 'William Smith,
(double), 10s.; -" Humanity," 1/. ; A Friend,
2s. Gd.; Abraham Ashworth (new), Ss. ; "A Drop
before the Shower," 51. ; a friend (paid), 2s. ;
Emanuel Smith (quadruple), 1/. ; John Whittaker
(new), 1/. ; " Well-wisher, Is. ; John Clegg, 10s. ;
John Bannister (double), 2s. ; Abraham Jackson
(double), 10s.; George Law (new), 2s. 6d. ; " Anti-
llumbug," I/. • A Friend, 10s. ; John Stansfield, 10s. ;
John Stansfield, jun., 10s.; James Howorth, 10s. ;
George Tattersall (new), ss. ; " Something," Is. ;
John Holt (new), 2s. 6d. ; Miles Shepherd, 2s. 6d.;
John Collins (double), ; Edmund Lord (double),
55.; 'William Taylor (double), Ss. ; "Down with all
monopoly," 2s. 6d.; Isaac Hoye, 10s.; John Ash-
worth, 55.; John Clegg, a working man
(second donation), 103.; Charles Hardman, a
working man, 7s. 6d.; A Friend (new), ls. ;
"By two women power-loom weavers at Stackstead's,"
ss.;_ Richard Horrocks, working man, it. ls.;
John Riley, ls.; A Friend Lord, , Is ; " James work-
ing man, gave Si. last year, gives 10s. this year, and
15s. next, if required ;" "Do good in thy lifetime,"
2s. 6d.; Charles Stansfield, working man (ss. last
year), U. ls.; "Juvenile subscriber," 2s. Gd. (Paid) ;
New subscriber, 55.; Edward Bareroft (double),
working man, ss. ; James Lord (double), working
man, 10s.; James Inson (double), working man, 10s.
Total amount of subscriptions in the meeting,
215/. 10s., making a total for I3acup and the neigh-
bourhood of One Thousand Threelfundredand Fifteen
Pounds Ten Shillings!
JOHN EARNSHAW, Esq., moved, and Mr. JOHN
DAWSON seconded, "That this meeting cannot appre-
ciate too highly the exertions which have been made
by R. Cobden, Esq., R. R. Moore, Esq., and Henry
Ashworth, Esq.; and that the thanks of this meeting
be given to those gentlemen for their attendance this
evening."
Mr. COBDEN, in reply, stated that he did not think,
that considering the size of the place, that the Bacup
subscription bad been exceeded anywhere in the
kingdom.

16. William Longfield, Esq., 19, Harcourt-street
17. William Orde, 79 and 81, Cork-street, tanner

18. Robert S. Stubbs, 3, Dame-street, linen-draper
19. William Scott, 42 and 44, Stafford-street, cabinet-maker
20. J. M'Cormack, jun., 16, Usher-street, wine-merchant
21. William M. Woodroofe, 50, Abbey-street, merchant
22. George Mitchell, 20, Lower Sackville-street, tobacconist
23. James Walker, 20, Suffolk-street, engraver
24. George Fowler, 4, Anglesea-street, wine-merchant.

The Mercantile Advertiser of this morning publishes
a liberal report of the proceedings, which are annexed:
The solicitors for the Crown and the traversers at-
tended at the office of the Clerk of the Crown this
morning, for the purpose of reducing the list struck
yesterday. Mr. Steele and Mr. Barrett were also
present.
Mr. Bourne, addressing Mr. Steele, said—As you
appear one of the parties on the record, and appear in
person, I beg to say, if you have anything to offer, I
am quite ready to hear you before proceeding with
the immediate business for which we have met here.

Mr. Steele—l do not intend, just now, to trouble
you ; but I beg to inform you that my attorney is pre-
sent, and under his guidance I am acting.
Mr. Mahony—Mr. Kemmis, I beg leave to say a
few words on a subject of vital importance to my
clients. I am prepared, Sir, with the affidavits of
the individuals concerned—some of whom are ready
to be produced—and who will prove that they were
entered on the jury list as qualified to serve as special
jurors, and have, notwithstanding, been omitted from
the special panel used on this occasion. It so hap-
pens, and very unfortunately, I think, that all these
mistakes have been committed on one side, and in the
present state of the country, I would ask, was such a
circumstance to be treated lightly ? These persons so
omitted, strangely enough, happen to be nearly all
of the Roman Catholic persuasion, and those who are
not are not considered hostile to them. It is a very
unhappy state of things. I now put it to the gentlemen
representing the Crown, as it is my duty so it is my
determination to pursue the matter to the last. I
offer proof that the list has not been fairly made
out ; and although I can hardly expect that Mr.
Kemmis will postpone further proceedings until the
mistakes are rectified, I will enter my protest against
it, and put it to him whether or not the subject is
worthy of deep attention.
Mr. Bourne—This question has already been pro-
pounded and decided, and I have no more power over
this panel than you. I cannot entertain the subject, and
I cannot see any use in stating facts here over which
I have no control whatever.
Mr. Kemmis observed that he could not entertain
the subject, and that there was nothing for them to
do but to proceed to reduce the list, and he could
not consent to anything but his immediate duty,
which was to reduce the list.

Mr. Mahony then handed the following protest to
Mr. Bourne :

"COURT OF QUEEN'S BENCH, CROWN

SIDE.

" THE QUEEN V. DANIEL O'CONNELL AND OTHERS.
" I require you to take notice, that I do hereby
protest, on behalf of the traverser, John O'Connell,
Esq., against any further proceeding being taken in
striking a jury in this case. First, because the names
of a great number of persons qualified to be inserted
upon the special jury list, and whose right had been
allowed by the Recorder of the city of Dub-
lin, have been fraudulently and unjustly
omitted, or omitted from the special juror
list. Secondly, before you refused to receive evidence
to prove the above fact, although proof of the same
was in readiness and tendered ;to you. Thirdly, be-
cause the names of many persons are inserted in the
special juries' list who do not reside in the county of
the city of Dublin. Fourthly, because you refused
evidence of the said fact, although proof of the same
was in readiness and tendered to you. Fifthly, be-
cause several of the persons whose names were drawn
yesterday do not reside in the county of the city of
Dublin. For these reasons, in addition to those I
offered to you yesterday, and also to those given
to you in writing yesterday by Mr. Forde, solemnly
protest against any further proceeding in striking a
jury in this case. Dated the sth day of January, 1 8 44.
" PIERCE MAHONY, Attorney.

" To Waiter Bourne, Esq., Clerk of the Peace.
Air. Cantwell—l proceed for my client, under the
protest I mentioned yesterday.
Mr. Bourne—Well, then, we may now proceed.
Mr. Kemmis--I strike off No. 45 on the list--
Timothy Greens, of Capel-street, publican.
Mr. Cantwell—There is the first Papist going.
Mr. Bourne—You are aware, Mr. Cantwell, there
are but one set of objections which can be made on
the part of the defendants ; and I suppose you act
for all the defendants.

Mr. Cantwell—l am aware of them, Sir, and I sup-
pose on this occasion I will act for all the traversers.
I strike off 45—John Carolin, Government con-
tractor.

Mr. Kemmis—l strike off No. 26—Michael Dunn.

Mr. Cantwell—Another Roman.

Mr. Bourne—l don't know whether they are
" Romans" or not. The Crown I suppose, has a
reason for striking them off, and I do not think this
is the place to make these remarks.
Mr. Cantwell—l strike off 41—John White.
Mr. Kemmis—James Fallen.
Mr. Cantwell—Another Roman. I strike off Ro-
binson Carolin.

Mr. Kenmis—John Beaghan.
Mr. Cantwell—There's another. Strike of John
Thwaites, the soda man.

Mr. Kenmis—James Patrick Smith.

Mr. Cantwell—Another Catholic. I really think
that every Cornwall man should be informed the way
the Catholics of this country are respected here.
[Mr. Cantwell alluded to the speech of Lord Eliot,
made to the electors of that county on his re-election,
after being appointed to the Secretaryship of Ireland.]
I strike of John Irwin.
Mr. Kemmis—John Denman, of Abbey-street.
Mr. Cantwell—George Whittaker.
Mr. Kemmis—William Joseph Camen.
Mr. Cantwell—Another Catholic ; I strike off
Robert Chamley.
Mr. Kernmis—Lawrence Gorman.
Mr. Cantwell—Another Roman Catholic ; John
T. Boileau.

Mr. Kemmis—WilliatnTitzpatrick.
Mr. Cantwell—Another Roman Catholic.
Mr. Kemmis—Nicholas Monserratt.
Mr. Kemmis—John M'Gloin.
Mr. Cantwell—Another Catholic. George Wilson
Boileau.

Mr. Kemrnis—William Hendrick.
Mr. Cantwell—Another Roman. James Cuff
Saint George.
Mr. Kemmis—William Ring.
Mr. Kemmis—John Pucgloin.
Mr. Cantwell—Another Roman. James Cuff.
Mr. Cantwell—He is supposed to he Liberal, and
therefore next to a Catholic. I strike off John Fry.
This reduced the list to 24 names.
Mr. Mahony—We might have reduced this list
yesterday by striking off at once all the Catholics.
Mr. Bourne—Surely you might strike off whom
you pleased from the other side.
Mr. Mahony—As the High Sheriff is now present,
I beg to repeat all I said in his absence.' We freely
admit that neither Mr. Latouche nor Mr. Dickenson
knew anything of the " accidents" of which we have
to complain ; and I will further add, that their con-
duct has been extremely handsome, and just to both
parties.
The High Sheriff—With respect to my conduct I
have only to say that I gave written directions in my
office that all parties should have the utmost facility,
which were posted up, provided each party agreed. I
did this on the ground that I conceived one party
should have no advantage over the other. I do not
feel surprised at being subject to some misapprehen-
sion at this particular time, but I have a conscien-
tious conviction that I have done what is right in my
office, and I shall always be satisfied with the mode
of doing business when I feel in my heart that it is
done with strict justice and impartiality towards all
parties.

Mr. Mahony—lt was my duty to complain of con-
duct somewhere which is calculated to prejudice the
case of my client. It is also my duty to do justice
to the conduct of the High Sheriff; and, Sir, as you
have acted all through with justice and impartiality, I

R. R. MOORE, Esq., said, that though he had sub-
scribed to a large amount, he believed that the work-
ing men of' Bacup had subscribed more than be had
done according to their ability.
The meeting then separated at eleven o'clock.._
•-

EXPERMEN TAL MANURES►

TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN:.
SIR,—I am an experimental farmer on a small scale (about
25 large Cheshire acres); during the three years I have been
farming I have used almost all kinds of real and artificial ma-
nures—guano amongst the rest. The result of one experiment
was as follows :—A meadow of four large Cheshire acres, strong
brown loam of about 12 inches in depth, with a clay sub-soil,
very good herbage, and in good condition, on one-third of
which I sowed 5 cwt. of guano, costing 605.; on another third
I spread 15 tons of stable-dung, at the expense of 51. ss. ; the
remaining third I covered with tO tons of privy soil, mixed
with 20 cart-loads of road scrapings, which, together with the
expense of mixing, cost 50s. (the scrapings being made near
to the land). I mowed on the 30th of July, and in order to
carry out my experiment I stacked each separately. The part
manured with guano produced 4 tons of long coarse soft hay,
such as the land had never before yielded. That on which the
stable-dung had been put produced 514 tons of fine hay, full of
all the choice kinds of grapes. From the remainder, manured
with the privy, &e., I procured 514 tons, similar in every re-
spect to that produced from stable-dung.
n which I spread the
privy
On the 7th of September 1 again mowed the same field ; the
guano part yielded 21 tons ; that manured with stable-dung
producedsimilaranqdu4sacl tirtoaynpsit
no;
gtsl
he and
firf tsot obtainedme r
crop.
Ipi e.
4. land
tons,o
of the three kinds of
Intending to write you the result of the experiment on the
30th of the last month, I went to view the field, and found the
parts which had been manured with the stable-dung and privy
green as Midsummer, white clover, rib-grass, con-grass, and
many other kinds of choice grapes ; strong, and from four to
sixwilderness;inctiesinit'n notgth a her
. The
egb upon it,
guano
opart was brown and as bare
as except couch-grass, and
that scarcely alive ; I shall be compelled to plough it for pota-
toes. On the 20th of October I commenced giving the first
crop to six of my cows, each two from a separate stack (turnips
and ground oats were given in equal quantities to each cow) ;
they yielded at that time five quarts of milk each, night and
morning ; at the end of three weeks those two fed with the hay
ivtirioiidlsutcethdeboythgerusanhoadynieoltsse
yielder only
it: o quarts each per meal,
the
least ; seeing that, I
gave up the use of the inferior hay, and although good hay is
selling hrerrheeavtatiotefrtthoenc,
rlopcosutai could
dnts only obtain 2/. 10s. per ton
for it. us :

duANo.
k.; s. d.
6i toms of hay, at 508 ********************* ....• 15 12 6
Deduct cost of guano ................................ 3 0 0

£l2 12 6

TIIE SUN, LONDON, MONDAY EIENING, JANUARY' S, 1844.

L'LLAFFAIRS OF CANADA.
TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN.
assure you it is an error to infer that
the question relating to public patronage in Ca-
nada has arisen from mere French Canadian de-
mands. It is no new subject in Canada, and it is
felt to be of the greatest importance to the
British population of the country.
The true principle is stated in the Resolutions
of the House of Assembly, and as it is a dispute
to be determined between the House of Assembly
and the Imperial Government, the words they
use are deserving of consideration, as by them
the provincial administration will be governed.
The House of Assembly " disclaims a desire to
call on the:Government to enter into stipulations"
respecting public patronage. "The mutual con-
fidence essential to the well-being of the Go-
vernment presumes the terms to be understood,
though a respect for the prerogative, and a con-
stitutional delicacy towards the Governor, for-
bids their being expressed." This language is
perfectly constitutional, and in conformity with
the principles of British institutions. It does not
require the surrender of the prerogative. Some
person must advise the Governor, for, being a
stranger to the province, he can have no personal
knowledge of the persons fit to be appointed to
office. Who are those advisers to be ? Are they
to be sworn and responsible advisers, whom the
Constitution has appointed, or persons unknown
and concealed, who have an interest in tripping
up the heels of the Members of the Adminis-
tration ?
If Sir C. Metcalfe had replied to his Adminis-
tration that lie would consult them upon all
public appointments, reserving to himself the
final decision, and that he would make no ap-
pointment discrediting them in the face of the
province, this dispute would not have arisen.
In England it is the prerogative of the Queen
to appoint public officers, and, also, the ladies
about her person. Sir R. Peel did not demand.
this right to be surrendered, but he desired to act
with a due respect for the prerogative, and with
a constitutional delicacy which forbade the terms
of his accepting office from being publicly ex-
pressed. He could not permit the influence of the
back-stairs and of irresponsible persons to inter-
fere with his advice. What was done in
England has been asked to be done in Canada.
No person can doubt that Sir C. Metcalfe is a
very honourable and able man, and really liked
in the province. But the Administration had to
anticipate the possibility of a Governor being set
over them who might act with unworthy mo-
tives. Moreover, it is well known in Canada that
it is a difficult matter for persons born in and
settled in the province to gain public appoint-
ments, though their own merit may be great.
There are always in the colony many persons
with orders to the Governor for appointments in
their pockets—both the orders and the persons
among the newest arrivals—who interfere with
the just expectations of settlers. It is this which
will give this question a Canadian and local inte-
rest, on which an almost unanimous opinion, both
of race and of population, will be expressed.
Jan. 5, 1844. A LOYALIST.

THE STANDARD'S ~ GAMBLING
IMPORTERS" OF CORN.
TO THE EDITOR OF• THE SUN.

SlR,—The Standard of the 21st ult. uses the

term " gambling importers" in reference to the
importers of corn.
if the importers of corn are gamblers, pray
who made them such ?
I should say the landowners. Has not the
sliding-scale upon the very face of it a tendency
and lure to importers to gamble? Does it not
say to the importers, if you will try to get up the
averages one shilling per quarter for us, the land-
owners, to keep up our rents, we will give you
an extra profit of 2s. per quarter—give us 2s.
you shall have 4s.—give us ss. you shall have
10s. ? This is precisely the effect of the sliding-
scale; for when the averages are up one shilling,
the duty drops one shilling ; so the law makes
gamblers of the importers by giving them a
profit of two shillings per quarter on the rise of
one shilling per quarter in—one shilling by the
rise in price, and the other shilling by the fall in
the duty. It is, I think, sufficiently clear, with-
out further demonstration ; but, in order that
that there may be no question, let us suppose
corn to be 50s. per quarter, the duty 10s.—the
dealer gets 40s. ; but if the average should be 515.,
the duty will be Os.; thus, deducting the Os. from
515., the importer gets 425. Yet, while the law
was so drawn as to induce the importers of corn
to play the landowners' game, they must, for-
sooth, be stigmatised as " gambling importers."
Yours, &c.,

A MEMBER Ot' TIIE ANTI-CORN-
LAW LEAGUE.
Ilfracombe, Jan. 3, 1843.

THE CURRENCY.
TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN.

DEAR Sza,—l had nearly overlooked the letter of " Ger-
manicus" this evening, when luckily the word " Beirniard"
caught my eye.

The query of " Germanicus" is based on an assumption that
the issuer of a note engages to give the holder a certain weight
of gold for it.

No such engagement is made. A five pound note, for
example, specifies not that the issuer promises to hand to the
holder so many grains of gold, but that he will pay " five
pounds." If gold has increased in prise since the issue of the
note, and silver has not, the issuer hands over a hundred shil-

lings, and the note is duly discharged.
Let us again suppose that instead of silver the issuer pays in
sovereigns; it is clear that the note (taking it for granted that
gold is the only commodity advanced in price) is really en-
hanced in value, since the holeer, who when he took the note,
could only command with his five pounds a certain quantity of
cotton, sugar, iron, &c., will, on receiving for his note five
sovereigns obtain that which, taken to the silversmith's, pro-
duces the means of commanding more cotton, &c., than before.
The fallacy is that which I noticed before, viz., the assuming
that ift he relation between two articles be changed, one must
be depreciated, forgetting that it may be that the other is
enhanced.

The fact is, that during the war the note did not go down,
but that gold went up.
Let us suppose a sudden increase in the deniand for French
wines. To-day a given sum in gold will command fifty pipes
of claret ; next year, from increased demand (or diminished
supply), the same sum will command but forty—will the gold
have suffered depreciation ? Believe me, always yours,
BEIR NIARDi
. The total paper now circulating in Great B ritain (includng
bills of exchange) is probably little short of 360,000,000 ; in
all Europe perhaps not 180,000,000 of gold could be collected.
Is the paper depreciated 50 per cent, because it is physically
impossible to exchange mere than half of it for gold ?

TO THE EDl7'Oll OF THE SUN.
SIR,—I observe in your paper of last evening a sneering let-
ter, signed " Gordius, ' attacking my proposal of fixing a silver
measure of value in accordance with the last twenty-five years
average value of the bushel of wheat, and recommending as a
more intelligible measure the reduction of the price of wheat by
an increase in the contents of the bushel. I suppose from the
composition of the letter, that it emanates from ore of that
illitss who know more about muck 'than they do about money,
t who have not yet ascertained, according to the maxim of
Lord Bacon, "that money is like muck, of little use unless it
be well spread." As I make it a rule never to write without
subscribing my own name, so I also make it a rule never to
enter upon an argument with those who write anonymously ;
and if a letter which I addressed to the Morning Post yesterday
does not explain to " Gordius" the great difference in the
operation of our two plans, I will, upon learning who he is,
with great pleasure explain to him, through your paper, what
would be the result of each of them. Meantime I feel that
the subject under consideration, the town of Birmingham, and
myself, are far beyond the sneers of the enlightened philosophers
of Ilfracombe.—Yours respectfully, G. F. MUNTZ.
Ley Hall, near Birmingham, Jan. 6, 1844.
TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN.

SlR,—The conversion of the Three-and-a-Half per Cent.
Consols is now generally rumoured. The high rate of funded
stock, the low rate of interest, and the large amount of
specie in the Bank, seem to invite the attempt. The con-
version, nevertheless, may not be so easy of accomplishment
as some people imagine. Cheap money may lead to redun-
dancy, and to a general advance of prices. The question,
therefore, may be demanded.—Can Ministers, aided by the
Bank, effect so desirable a measure ? The following reasoning
may, perhaps, throw some light on so intricate a subject.
The present market price of dollar silver is 4s. 9d. per oz.,
and its par price, estimated at 16 to 1 and compared with
gold at 31. 17s. 101,4 d., may be said to be 4s. 10id. 625 per
oz. On this calculation, silver will be found to be 11. 7s. 1 I/4d.
per centum cheaper than standard gold. Hence gold, the
dearer metal, remains in the coffers of the Bank, while silver
the cheaper article, is exported.
We will now presume, that during the process of conver-
sion, the market price of silver advances from 4s. 9d. to ss.
per oz. thereby making gold 21. 14s. 6d. per centum cheaper
than silver. The change in the relative value of the metals
would then cause gold to be demanded at the Bank, while
silver, as an article of export, would be neglected. Any ad-
vance in the market price of silver, therefore, will be the
chief difficulty the Directors will have to contend against.
Again, should the market price of silver, during the pro-
cess of conversion remain, even for the short period of three
months at ss. per oz., might not such a demand for gold at
the Bank be established, as to compel the Directors to put on
the screw; and would not the application of this pinching
instrument raise the rate of interest, depress the value of
Consols, and even render the conversion exceedingly hazardous ?
Should the above remarks be worthy of notice you are at
liberty to publish them. Your's, &c.,
LUZITANO.
Manchester, 6th Jan., 1840.

ASSIZES and QUARTER SESSIONS

TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN,

SIR,—By Act of Parliament, quarter sessions might be so
fixed as to be held, a short period before the spring, summer,
and winter assizes, and would be extremely convenient not only
to judges of assize but to the public, and a saving of cost to
counties. For instance, instead of the sessions been held in
January, April, July, and October, they might be held in No-
vember February, May, and August. These periods would hap-
pen before the three assizes, and be convenient for counsel ;
the quarter sessions circuits having finished, they could join
the judges the first commission day on the assize circuits.
PUBLIC GOOD.

We regret to learn that Lieutenrnt• General Sir
Hudson Lowe, Colonel of the 50th Regiment, is suffering from
the effects of a severe attack of paralysis, and that his state of
health is such as to cause serious apprehension of the result to
his family and friends.— United Service Gazette.