The Sun.
London, England, 1828-06-07 00:00:00

THE ROYAL FILTER FOR CISTERNS.

The health and the comfort of every family are so 'Mame-
diately hound up with the supply of pure and wholesome
Water to their habitations, that, to use the words of Dr.
lyre, the eminent chemist and physician of Glasgow, " it
cannot but be an interesting object to ascertain the qualities
of that which is daily consumed by the inhabitants of
large cities; seeing that a very minute portion of unwhole-
some matter, daily taken, insyconstititte the principal came
of the differences in salubrity which are observable in dif-
ferent places."
Important as this fact ig,.it is not the less true,• that the
public attention was never fully roused, until the appear-
ance, about fifteen months ago, of a publication, called
The Dolphin ;" the object of which was to prove, that
an article, designated by the illustrious Dr. I%lead as "Me
vehicle of all our nourishment," was actually supplied to
them in a polluted and unwholesome condition. The writer
was threatened with prosecution,- and his statements de-
eliaed to be false : a public meeting of the inhabitants of
the western part of the town nevertheless took place peti-
foams were presented to Parliament and the result was,
the appointment of a Royal Conimiseina to inquire intothe
State of the Supply of Water to the. Metropolis.
The long and anxiously looked-for Report of.the Com-
missioners has at length made its appearance. •We have
carefully gone over the hundred and fifty folio pages of
which it consists, and we venture to assert, that a docuz.
meta of greater importance has scarcely ever been laid
before the public. Upon the concocting, testimony of
=any of our most eminent chemists and physicians, fact,
of the most fearful nature are therein established, beyond
the possibility of contradiction ; namely, that the water
drawn bl the Companies from the river Thames, is sent
into our cisterns in a condition impure and offensive in,
the extreme—that it is loaded with decayed animal and
vegetable matters, the proceeds of a hundred and forty-five
common setsers—that it is strongly impregnated with the
deleterious refuse of gas, colour, lead, and soap-works, drug
mills, end manufactories of every description---and that, :a
consequence of this mass of ,polkution constantly mixing
.;vith it, it has became not only disgusting to the senses, but
unfit to he employed in the preparation of food, or for any
domestic purpose

r,r Le drive Commissioners, Dr. Roger, Professor Bfailde,
atvi 11r. Telford, the.eminent engineer, :commenced their
labouriby requesting Mr. Wright, theindivirinakvho di-
rected the public attention to the existin, evil, to furnish
them _,113.0,-a,..lstetecu,ent thcalleged; grievances, and to
point out ale best uf.ohtaiitiogJirttOrmatin, as to
the. truth of the„rillegaeums contained in the petition of
the inhibitants of the we4ern.part of . the Metropolis 11.
ParliaWtlit• 11l ennsnneru.e. of this. request,: Ali: Wright
aildreqs4ed tatliern a h-letttair,,•whirh• if< asneseil to their
Report. This Memoir, together with the F.vidence taken
before the Commissioners, contains a series of testimonials
to the gross impurity of the Thames water, of which we
46,411 here give a brist outline. All of Ahem will be read
with ;ntere,t ; soma with sensations bordering upon horror.
Few wouhl bave,credited the frightful facts, if they came
a less questionable shape.

XVIOCNCS OF THE• 1/11.1.1101Y AND Txr.AT ITIMITT or Tor
THAMES WATS% SUPPLIED IN THE rOIIPANIV4.

Sir Henry Halford,pronouneee', the ureter sent into his.
house to bee filthy- fluid, with Whiel, he is disgusted.
Mr. Thomas, the enrgeon, tells us it is settirated with de=
rayed vegetable matters, and other- stihstimces prejudicial
ire health. Dr. Hooper is convinced that- eitelt matters in
the stomach greatly Ccmtribute to • the -prrelnetien of that
state of faulty digestion and impurity' of blond, of which
the inhabitants of the Metropolis' nee- eonstantlycomplain-
Mr. Keats, the surgeon, avows it to be his opinion,
that it is so frithrand impure; al=to unit for the break-
•fast table and far :culinary pArtetedies,-• ;old that it' adds so
snitch to she Other' Onwholettetuts eonetittients 'of liread, as
to render every-menlinjurionle te, the-he:llth of thineand.i.
Dr., Touter asserts, that-the water sent into his cisterns
tiering the• hot .weather,drequently berme quite pntrid;
andDr...l. R. Hume, of Curzon-street,littelut doubt that
sire continued nee of it without filtering ie'elpable of pro-
ijoeingeffeleterions,effeeti. •'• y
-Dr. Vora, &eye,' ilint the. Theitilee 'Water is extremely
fad,
„.foul,_dirty,,-smlLuntelsolesome, front the' great quan--
e,ty of filthy-Matters continnally Pouring into it from '7.9G..
Pieta:4S zcexers.. .fle insrences it disease which prevailed to.
very serinve.eeteut; which- he hitif"ltimsell'trat'ed to the
tnpuritiee of the water- for dorneatiense. - ' •
Dr. Kerrieon makes rtv itego:l4l4:M wi:tle a fact, "the peel
retell of which wilteetriteehe genre Aiegitet the in?rul of
the render, as-vre oarseteei;', fei4 hi siller-Catlitg' It. - On lo-
epeeting tle..Thautes neor‘tbrlltridikft'at Chelsea Hospital,
says Ito saw "the frill and black stream from the Ra-
oelegti sewer, puesiug between the Company's steam-engine
and the Dolphin, loaded with an small portion of nndirided
;floating filth from privies;" from which he concludes,
" a considerable quantity of human excrement, in
~aboUrided and undecompo.sed state, actually passes into
pee cisterns.'"
Dr. Sotnerville, die physician to Chelsea Hospital, states
rik voter to be' verYimpuree "The tide," he eays,- "stirs
op the t,; ass of impurity produced by all that is corrupti-
ble in the cuimal and vegetable world, together with the
anxious filth s! gaslihd -other rnanufactoricS, that con-
stantly flow into •-jh7e Thames from. .liattersea down to
Gravesend." Alludin; to the water supplied to his late
residence -itt Hanover-equette, he adds,' "it was not only
frequently, but generally, ex,,remely impure, fatid, and
offensive ; that it tieposiQd' muter: mud, and oaten enough
so render its colour blackish."
Dr. James Johnson, the author of the fc Treatise on In.;
digestion," pronounces the water' to' be disgusting to the
eight,, and the effluvia to affect the sense.. rntil- he
changed his residence he was affected with pain after tak-
ing his-breakfast, wliieh he attributes tn'the water. fie
states the fact of several young females who had been•
affected with bowel romplaints from the same cause.
if
they went Milt of town few days, anti drank other water,
the complaint subsided, butt often returned on their again
drinking this Water. There was a scum on the sedate of
the water of an oily nature, and the deposit is immense.
When his cisterns were cleaned nut, the smell rendered the
ireouse Very'unconfortable. "We sneer," says the Doctor,
"'at the delicacy of the Hindoo, who slakes hie thirst at
C:e same tank where his neighbour. is sactificitig to
Clwina ; but what Alia we ay to the deli Cati. citizens
of Westminster, who fill their tanks isx:i stomachs with
• water' frorii.the Thames, at' that very spot jute which
hundred' thousand cloacx, containing weer/ spa ,e ,of filth
and riff unutterable• things, ern daily disgorging their
)itieous'and abominable contents. it is abSol'utety. aao.-
Dishing; that in these days of refinement, and in' a Metro-
polis whose inhabitants pride themselVes Ou'delicaey and
aennilywr, a practice shonld obtain, at which pOsterity
will shudder, if they can credit it. A time 'must 'fngle
when the people will open their eyes to this scene of car-
niptiOn, veiled and concealed as 'it
•iron tubes and
stone pavements. It ;.e probable that.part of the Meath
brity of the Metropolle.,ae compared with the, eeteutry, May
be owing to this cause.'
The last professional gentleman ta wlarase—eVidetice sve
ehail refer, is Dr. Paris, the author of the popular Wrfrrk on
Diet. He pronounces the water to be impure and offen-
s4e, am; says that it stinks shortly after it has come in.
Large queeetitiee of matter are meelaniCally suipended in it.
The C m any send in mud with the water,"
jainecistathteens,cothrna-t
op
com-
plain that the c!s, erns are not kept clean.
a family whom he 3,ttended last autumn Were,iall, ill, and
be belieies it are front zirinking this water. AA a Ole,.
airian," he says, f, eanetet ,find terms mufficiently eerie_
:thin of the awful effects it /nay be likely to produce upon
the health,• and even lives, of :the feoluthitants of the Me-
tropolis." - And in 'the last edition ,of his work be goes
stiff further; and asserts, that if a remedy !p.aot applied to
the evil, "the ravages of fome !!,' fairly
anticipated.'! .
We could adduce the cocroborative testimony of many
other;professioncl men of erninerwi if our space would
allovi us to do 50: we cannot, however, noncliide without
;giving abort summary of the evidence of ids individuals,
whom business st has Well ta watch the • progress the
mischief, and to trace it up to its :source. '
11r. Mills, the engineer, tells us, tioi.t the ThaMas is
:,.either more nor lesathan the common scums of ,London,
so far as it receives the contents a all the sewers; tchicle
tin the north side ace ninety-nine, and on the sonth'forty-
six.' The water taken up -Opposite some of the sewers at
the time of discharge is neatly the sithetantive,cnatents of
those channels of human orrhfre. Mr. Joseph ,Evans ;ace
steu
seen the sewers discharging black slimy liquid, with
gas, oil, dead animal:, entrails tirom -the slaughterhouses,
and other filth too disgusting to name. Mr. ..(-*)o'dhvgb,
the fishmonger, say', that the Company's water is muddy
and offensive : if fresh fish 01 put into it, P they will not
live more than six hours, and turn a yellow colour. ;rte.
Butcher, a fish-salesman, states the water to be very bad,
wail that he has known three parts of 3 carpal eels to die
by tiee gas-water passing the vessel. Islr. Newland, the
master pf a Dutch vessel, sari, that out of 26,0001 he of
eels, the csygO of twOrhOats, only 9,0601b5. were marketed
alive ; they became sick ou being put into the 'fhame,,
water, and soon died ; they changed colour, and became
spotted like snakes. Another captain says he has known
'B,OOO weight to die in half an hour, and that if the water
gets worse, they must give up the hueiness.
William and Thomas Hetherill, fisher men, state, .that
they have left off the business because it had left them off.
• They used to catch Rounders, eels, roach, smelts, salmon,
Ika before they were rained. The water gets worse every
year ; the oauae is the gas: they could get plenty of dead

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flounders, but no live ones; had seen the flounders put up
their beads above the water, and if there was a httodle of
weeds they would escape from the water upon it. Had
seen two thousand pound weight of fish die in an hour ;
and when the wells were opened there was quite 'a stench,
and oil on the top of the water.
The last evidence we shall quote from is that of Mr.
Goldham, who has been yeoman at Ilillingsitate-market
for twenty:five years. Be says, be has known 50,000
smelts brought daily to Billingsgate, and 8,000 salmon in
the season caught in the Thames.. fie adds, that they are
now all destroyed, and this fishery gone ; and this he
attributes to the:impure state of the water, from the refuse
of the gas works, from all the common sewers running
into it, and the steam-hosts constantly stirring up the filth.
He has seen 4;000 -eels alive at. night in the Dutch boats,
and the next moriving three=fo;rths have been
Many fiihermen have been ruined by the change.

TUE REMEDY, AS RECOMMENDFD BY THE COMMISSIONERS.
.Such is the pieture—the faithful and frightful picture
—of the. eendition of the water of the Thames, as supplied
by the Companies to their enatomere. That the inhabit-
ants of the richest, largest, most populous city in the
World—the seat of a
,more opulent body of nobility and
gentry than is to be .found in any other metropolishnuld,
for so long a time, have been contented to have seen daily
running into their cisterns, and to have used, for all do-
mestic and culinary- purpose', a necessary of se loaded
with all sorts of impurities as to be pronounced, by profes-
sional men of the first eminence, to be oili•nsiee to the
sight, disgusting to the imagination, and destructive to
health, is a fact that would not have been credited, and
that ought not to have ken credited, hut upon evidence
" strong as proof of Holy Writ r „
That the Commissioners, ,with these facts before them,
should terminwe their labours withcut taking into tsonsi-
aeration the best mode of removing so crying an evil, was
'.neat to impossible. Prevented, however, by the limits
assigned to their inquiry, from looking abroad fora purer
smirce, they naturally turned
,their attrttion to the im-
provement of the supply at home; and the reatilt.of their
lalinur is the recommendation of a general system of fil-
tration—a system. not. limited to the fifty-three thousand
families daily drinking the filthy fluid of which we have
been speaking, hot extending itself to the hundred and
sicenty-six thousand tenants of .the New .River and
other. Caroparlies consuming the twenty-nine millions
of gallons daily f;upplied,to the Metropolis. "Although,"
say they, "the :alew River water is. not open to the same
objectionable impregnations as that of the Thames, it
.receives the drainage of a large extent of country, is ocea-
sicmnally very tnuddy, and 19 snseeptilde of ranch improve-
filtratio
is the remerly,pointed-ont and recommended by the
Commis,:oners. That those gentlemen did not consider it
to he a,perfie t cans, will appear by the. following observa-
tion ;—" It must," sly they, " lee recollected, :that insect+
and suspended impurities only are separated by filtration,
and that thgapority of the water, as dependent upon
matters held in testate of solution, cannot he improved by
any prarricable modification of the process. if, there-
fore, it can be shown, that water taken frnm the parts of
the, river whence, the Companies draw . their supplies,
either is, pr: is likely to be, contaminated by substances
dissolied, or :chemically ,combined. it will follow, that
the most perfect system of filtering can effect only a partial
purification."
Unfortunately, at the moment when the Commissioners
were drawing up this paragraph of their Repo: t, the
patent for " The Royal Filter fin. Cisterns" had not
prized through the tedious ordeal of athee;. for if the
merits of this invaluable discovery had been submitted to
their consideration, that Report, we are inclined Jo-believe,
Wenhl not have contained the assertion, that "the
~most
perfiaa system of filtration can effect only a partial purifi-
cation." The subjoined extract from a Prospectus issued
Ity the Proprietor,will he perused with the liveliest in-
terest by all whn considetadeanlinessgo be essential to health,
and the eurity.of the element of which we are treating, to
he nearly or equal importance with the air we breathe:—
" The Royal Filter for Cisterns will be found superior
to all filters hitle'rto irivented, , inasmuch as it not only
pessesses the power of clarifying the water in a pro-emi-
nent but al-o that of complete purification, ren-
dering the- roost turliid, stagnant, and,ftetid water, of a
crystalline ol.epriving it of every noxious ingre-
dipia-; anti, in t'aat, producing cNature's nectar' in the
highest possible perfection ; that is to say, clear and des,
titrac of taste and sinell:".
" But •where," the reader will naturally exclaim, " is the
1,11,4 a all to he Coluul? n.ust have toomething
more solid and satisfaCtory than bare assertion'." The
ful-
lowing statement must, we think, set the doubts of the
most scepticti at rest.for o'er.
•
Hume, the respectable ehenii,t of Long-acre, who
has long been employed by Government in analysing
water, had two hottlps of water s,nt to him for analysa-
tion ; tl:e one full of all animal rind vegetable matters in a
state of decomposition, and strongly impregnated with gas;
the other, a bottle which had contained the same foul in.
gredients, but had been purified by- the Royal Filter.
In the unfiltered bottle lie found, he says, forty-six
grains and a half of solid molter, of which thirty grains
consisted of impurities, anti the remaining sixteen grains
were the original ingredients peculiar to the water, and die. 7
solved in " for," he observes, " there is no water,
however pure and wholesome, whether from deep wells, su-
perficial springs, or any other source, that is free from saline
and other soluble salts, not at all injurious to health."
In the filtered bottle be found only sixteen grains of
substances, which, nn examination, proved to be the same
materials peculiar to, and soluble in, the water in its pri-
mitive state, and perfectly free from the impurities and
contingent foulness of the water, occasioned principally by
decayed vegetable matters, a slight impregnation by animal
substances, some csrbnreted hydrogen or coal gas, and
earbouic acid gas. Mr. Hume concludes with hearing the
following high testimony to the merits of this discovery:
After, a very careful analysis, I cannot hesitate to
pronounce the method. which has been adopted to filter
this spfeimen of grater to be
,most effectual, and highly
deserving of public encouragement." The same gentle-
man, at a subsequent period, analysed two other bottles,
and says, " the opinion 'I had formed, of this new process
for filtering. is fully confirmed." We should add, that the
water thus analysed, although purposely, strongly impreg-
nated with gas and other, impurities, became crystallised,
and destitute of taste and smell.

Thus it is clearly proved, that of the forty-six grains and
a half of solid matter originally placed in the Royal Filter,
,oaly sixteen grains of substances passed throughit ; end
whicksixteeu grains,are proved to be peculiar to water in
its priaoitive state, and not at all deleterious to health.
However rxi-zc.)l, therefore, the observation of the Corn.
missioners may apply to all former systems of filtration, it
is greatly-to be regretted that, before the close of their la-
bours, they had not the benefit of the preceding experi-
Merits, and of the following striking testimonials to the
excellence of " the Royal Filter.",
Protestor Braude, one of the three Commissioners ap-
poUtted.by the King, has had a portable Royal Filter, fur
the .ptxpaae of trying experiments on water in a similar
candition ithat described by Mr. Hume ; and Le has
stepped forward his . ready testimony to the singular
merits of this dissovery, "I have," he says, "tried its
effect on very turbid water, taut 4 appears to possess the
two great desiderata of such contrivances, namely, to filter
rery perfectly, and very rapidly."
Mr. Brodie, the surgeon, corroborates every thing
flirt
haz keen said in its favour. He states, that having pro..
cured ac,,,nv: .9f the foulest water his • house afforded, and
mixed with it a ,sanity of water impregnated with gills
from coals, he poured -it ;Att, the Royal Filter ; that it
passed through it .eeryWas drawn off in a
state of such purity,
and so patirrly five Irpp the odour
taste of the gas, as to be
dacaJater on the. table, to be dragnukite fiidirt fat' beingingdinn PIV4
;I?
r.
Dr. SolutagAre says, he has made sufficient experi,
ments with the e filtkr:r,l,, Apparatus to satisfy -Lis judgment
of its efficacy in rendering the p=oet turbid water quite clear
4.7-4 agreeable, both to the eye and to taste, and con,i-
-t
eamlipto:nt of it, has had
nori‘harisrit
cistern, and
71:antove•
„El
.rialrgse
rnei:ptho
en
has had a Royal Filter plac4
i
the satisfaction to find his it:;;;se regularly and abundantly
suppl;e4 with clear and wholesome :eater, He considers
that the-iotxOtiction.of it generally into
found highly will be
apdF,aye to the iimprovement of the
.
the mttmpoli, icy
4‘jvil arresting the deleterious
ITter L.; ts present state, and
which lie thinloi, of late, years,. tended 411gment the
. 1 s disorders arisin-, out r
,ratalogue. of those ati,vtau 0,
morbid' 4erangernent of stomag4 !arid the other organs sub-
servient tothe process
,of digestion.
Mr. Keate,- the NArgeotli
the
considers it to be alatirably
adapt4io the .iniportant,pi.epose purifying and clarifying
water on a large: cale, and that it would be a. valuable
pendage wry cistern. ." possesses, says.
great advantage of filtering that is served into the cis.
tern, so that notutfiltered water can be used fop
domc.sti,c,
purposes ; and
.the water thus filtered is,bcoutiPall dor.
We trust we have said enough to draw general'attention
to the merits of a discovery so highly conducive to the
cleanliness, comfort, ant health of the inhabitants of ties
thickly peopled metropolis. We shall only add, that the
Apparatus may be inspected at the Office of the Patentee,
Mr. George Robins, ~69, Strand, opposite the -Adtiphi
Theatre, where the.puWit,:•aru Invited _to have ocular de-
itiOnatration of the efficaey of this remedy.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF,_ LORDS, JUNE 6.

TIT House was unusually full, in consequence of an
expectation raised that Mr. Canning's Pena Bill would
he discussed.

The Duke of SUSSEX presented petitions from the
Roman Catholics of Connaught and of Chichester, in favour
of their claims,

The Earl of -.MALMESBURY presented a petition
from between two and three thousand inhabitants of
Hornmstle and its neighboorhood, ;against any alteration in
the Corn Lan;s, and calling on their Lordships to take
the• situation of the Agricultural Labourers; into their con-
sideration.

The Earl of MALMESBURY moved that the order of
the day for bringing up the -Report.ou the County Lunatic
Asylum Bill on Wednesday next FAz discharged,- and that'
the R►port he brought up that day three months.
Agreed to, and tht,lt was accordingly thrown out.
The Earl. of SHAFTESBURY preSented a petition from
the Calvinistic Methodists of Glamorgan, against granting
further concessions to the Catholics.

Similar petitions Were presented by Lord Viscount
LORTON from the Corporation of Barber-Surgeons in
Dublin, from a parish in WicklOvv, and from Derrylossery ;
and by the Earl of LoNoroan, from several parishes in the
county of Cavan.
The Marquess of LANSDOWNE had several. petitions
to present in4avotir of the repealing the Catholic Di,abi-
lities, and though an opportunity would occur of presenting
them on Monday evening, he thought it would be more
convenient to. their-Lordships, if all such petitions were
presented then. The :Noble. Marquess then presented peti-
tions in favour of the. Catholics, from a number of inhabi-
tants, being Prokstants, and among them several Magis-
trates and Clergymen of
.the Church of England, of War-
minster ; from tbe Roman Catholics of Killarney, of 'St.
Ann's and St. Mary's, Cork,' aid several other parishes in
Ireland ; and from the Raman Catholics of. Clndleigh,
Devon, of Cockertoolith, and of a place in Milts.
Mr. Hogs DnomatoNn, and others from the Commons,
brought up a Private Bill.
.The Stamps' Allowance-Bill went through a Committee,
and the. Report was.received.
MR. CANNING'S PENSIG BILL

The Duke of WELLINGTON, :in moving the second
reading of this Bill, said, I will state to your Lordships
the grounds upon whick I was a party to the introduction
of this mealtime into Parliament, and those upon which I
recommend your Lordships to pass it. My Lords, Mr.'
Canning, whose talents and qualifications were well known
to this country, entered into his Majesty's Service in 179t3.
Having filled several important stations ih this country, he
died in 1827, while in office as Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer, and First Lard of the Treasury. My Lords, it is
well-known that the salaries of officers, particularly in the
high offices of this cOuntry, are very inadequate to defray
the expenses of those who fill them. This may be good
policy; it may he right with a view toeconomy. But it is
quite clear that when a person, situated as Mr. Gaming was,
with but a small fortune, -comet to be called on to perform
the duties of one of those high offices, he must either
perform them inadequately,- and live in a manner unfit for a
person filling those offices, or call upon some "other funds
for support. This unfortunately was the cage,of the Right
Hon. Gentleman, and he was obliged to expend a great
portion of those funds destined for his family. My Lords, I
think I may venture to state that if Mr. Canning had, instead
of entering into the public service, appeared in the profeee
sion for which he was educoted, and for which he was so
well qualified, there ran be no doubt. that he would have
risen to the greatest eminence, -and left his family—had
they unfortunately been deprived of him—in affluence.--s.
I state to Lordships that Mr. Canning was, in No ,
appointed by the East India Company to the•Goveenor-
Generalship of India, and that he was on the point of sail-
ing to take possession of that office when called on by his
Majesty to fill the situation of Secretary of State for
Foreign Affairs, in consequence of the very severe
loss his Majesty had
.seseained in the death of the
Marquis of Londonderry: • I say, niy Lords, that if Mr.
Canning had at that time been allowed to proceed
to India, he .would in all probibility have -been by
this time on his return home, with that supply for his -fa-
mily which would have rendered all anxiety on this subject
uncalled for. Shortly after-Mr. Canning entered the ser-
vice of his Majesty on the tart °evasion, his Majesty;
feeling that he had . given up - this very important
.and lucrative office, in order to enter into his _Ma-
. leafy's' political service, thought proper to confer on 11rfr.-.
Canning one of tho:e penAions which his Majesty is
enabled to confer, by that Act which it is the object iof
this Bill to amend. My Lords, I must say, too, as I bell 14
I am almost the only person, who is enabled to - ' rt
it of -his own knowledge, that . this act of ' ce
on the part of his Majesty, Wag -totally unsolicited by r.
Canning. , Mr. Canning, however, in consequence of the
previsions of this Act, never having been out of office from
the period at which this pension was granted to him, never
received any of the emoluments of such pension. Conse-
quently he became exposed to the expenses of supporting she
situation of Secretary-of State for the Foreign. Department
on the salary of that office alone, and on the Mods of his pri-
vate resources. Under these circumstances, -my Lords,
Mr. Canning found himself but ill able to make such a pro-
vision for his family 'as they ought to have had, considering
the situation he filled. My Lords, I beg to call your Lord-
ships' Attention to the alteration which this Act of Parlia-
. ment Made,- and' consequently to the situation in which
Mr. Canning's family were placed. In all probability, if this
act had not passed, the same grace and favour which indu-
ced his Majesty to confer one of the pensions he granted,
, would have induced him to confer on Mr. Canning a sine-
cure office. If he had had a sinecure, he would now, in all
probability have had an income equal to his rank and station.
But, my Lords, this is not the only view to be taken. When
Mr. Canning died it is well known that he possessed the con-
fidence, favour, and kindness of his Sovereign, and BO man
whb knows We Majesty can doubt, that if he had had it
hi. power at that nsoment, lie would have relieved the afflic-
tions of Mr. Canning'e family by giving the stn either the
sinecure, held by the father or have made some other pro-
vision for them. Under these circumstances, any Lords, I
ask your Lordship to enable me to amend this law, in
order that his Majesty may be enabled to do that which he i n..
tended to do if that law had never passed. As an inducement
to your Lordship's consent to this, Bill I may mention that
it creates no extra expence; for the pensien which it is pro-
posed to be granted by it is one of those which his Majesty
has in his power to grant at the present moment. I will
likewise add that it will create no inconvenient prece-
dent, as in the event of a recurrence there can be
no doubt the House would gladly come to a conclusion,
that would enable his Majesty to make such a provision
for his family as that which I now propose. I beg, there-
fore to propose the second reading of this Bill.
Lord DACRE said, though, he had, en very few occa-
sions, while Mr. Canning was living, concurred with him,
yet no man was more sensible than he was of the great ta-
lents and vast acquirementa of that Right Hon. Gentleman.
The Noble Duke had stated the grounds on which he
(Lord D.) should oppose the Bill. The question now
teas, whether the Bill, by which it was proposed to amend
the 57th of his late Majesty, resolved on 'after long and se-
rious debate, should pass; by which that Act would .be
amended and repealed, which was introduced to prevent
any future Minister from establishing a claim to a rever-
sionary place while in the service of his Majesty. To
this he could not consent. - Under the provisions of
that Act—for in those times extravagance was not the
order of the day—the number of pensions granted
was to be limited to six in the course of twelve
years. At present there were only five of these pensions
to be disposed of, and only one was loose and supernumerary.
If it were considered. that tinder this Bill only one of those
pensions was fixed. on. the life of a young gentleman, it
0114 to him that it served to throw a greater burden 011
the country by thg age of the person to whom the interest
was given than was contemplated. by those under whose
auspices the Act-was. introduced. Their Lotelehipe would
see that either they were curtailing, by that Act, the power
of the Crown, or withdrawing from those who-had 6 fair
claim, from length of service in some high office, to the
'proeseseioa .pf veil a pension, for the services they had
performed. ' He liana stated Thus much in order to thew
what were the conclusions' to which the Parliament, -after
an arduous • and -long .discueeion, had arrived. It -walll,
certainly true-that .11r. Canning had never enjoVed- the
peosioa eooferred on him; but-why was this? BeCattie
Mr. Canning had been invariably in-possession of an .oeitv
withretire higher,her emoluments than. the pension he- might'
which,'. under the 'Act • of • the h7th of the late
-king, was not superadded to the emoluments of the Station
he held. The penaioia was not to add to hitisaltirYWhile
he held ace, but to •be a retiring half-ney. Another
pet of the.l3lll. he. was astonished to see.'-.in relation
to the peepniary. circumstances- of Mr: Canning, and in
connection with these eircutnitances-:,-that his. family had
lately heen. elevated to the Peerage:; : If the circumstances,
of the Right Hon. Gentleinan were such as to call . for
assistance, be thought titter - Lordships should take care
that the grant erkonld go to maintain the dignity of, the
Peerage ; . he was therefore-surprised. to find that it was not
the eldest son to whom the pension was, to descend, - but it
was to be placed on the life of a younger son, and was in-
vested for him in the hands of trustees. Admitting' as he

did the great talents of the liou- Gentleman, though he
ditfered fro►n bim in almost all questions of economy, bad
the Bill bean merely to give a sum of money, he would nnt

have voted against it. • Hs conceived that it would now he
bettor to withdraw the Bill, and bring forward such a
measure ai he proposed, which wouldlae more agreeable to
justice, and more acceptable to the majority of the country.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said he believed
that even his enemies would not suppose that he was ani-
mated by any feelings of political hostility or political ran-
cour; and he was sure his friends would not suppose that
he acted from any such feelings, in making the following
few observations to their Lordships. It would -be in the-
recollection of their Lordships, that durisg, the last Sea-
4on of Parliament there was no person who took a more
prominent part against the policy of the Right Hon,:
Osntreman than, he did. He disapproved of his arrange-
ments, both as to our domestic and foreign policy; and he
bad expressed publicly his opposition before their Lord.
lie would never allow of the phrase, that he had.
Called a new world into existence. He had opposed the
lamentable Treaty of the 6th ofJuly.—(Hear, hear.)—Ne
bout • opposed the policy which had led, unfortunately, the
Rus4an armies across the Pruth, and perhaps across the
Danube, and which might perhaps lead to the destruction
of the Ottoman Empire. Had it not been for the policy
of that Right Uon. Gentleman, the Russians would not i
have been encouraged to Tress' forward; but he had made
what was only a sentiment in hitn,ltt was life and death
to 'the Russians, the basis of a treaty and -had he not
urged forward the Russians, they would probably have
followed the policy of the Emperor Alexander on that
question; and have remained at test. Being opposed to
both the domestic and foreign policy of that :Right Hon.
Gentleman, if the Noble Duke had proposed the grant as
an acknowledgment of the policy of the deceased, he should
have been obliged to oppose the motion.. He could not
haye heard any person stand up in that .House and praise
I the proceedings of the Right Hon. Gentleman. He was
glad, therefore, to bear the Noble Duke ask the consent of,
their Lordships, on the ground that the salary of the
Secretary of State fOrForeign Affairs was inadequate to his
office; 'that he had been prevented from going to India,
' and that 'hie family was not provided for. He did Rot mean
'to 'speak of making up what the family had lost ; he could
feel for that loss as a man should, feel. 'He was glad,
'therefore, that the Noble Duke had placed the vote on these
grounds, so that hi for one was not prepared to oppose the
grant of a pension.' There are individuals around me (con-
tinued the Noble Marquis), who have received pensions for
their services: SA•eral Noble Lords had received pensions,
for• diplomatic services. 1, however, am one individual
to whom the late Right Hon. Gentleman, out of personal
hostility, did not choose to award the same pension, though
I-have the same claim as other Noble. Lords.—(Hear.)—l
will not, however, because the Right Hon. Gentleman re-
fused me a pension to which my services were entitled—l
will not, therefore, refuse a pension to his family, being very
sensible that his great talents and long services entitled him
to it. These are my reasons for supporting the measure,
and I give it the vote with greeter pleasure, in consequence
of what has occurred within these few days. I was glad
to see certain Gentlemen, the friends of the late Right-
Hon. Gentleman, retire from his Majesty's Councils.—
There was certainly a political incubus pressing on the
Cabinet, and I rejoice that it haa been repressed. Now
that the Noble Doke has.the materials of his Government
constituted equally and uniform, all will be well. .1 trust
that now the principle of the Government will be stable,
and that our commercial sad agricultural interests will be
steadily pursued, with none of those divergencies or those
aimings after foreign perfection, which had lately distin-
guished our Councils.-.--(Hear.)--I have stated thus much,
my Lords, because I could not bring myself to give a silent
vote on this subject, and to explain to your Lordship
the grounds on which I made up my mind to rote in favour
of the -motion. ,

On the Noble Marquis resuming his seat, both Earl
DUDLEY and Lord GODERICFLrose to address their
Lordships; but the former Noble Lord was called for.
Earl DUDLEY proceeded as follows ;—After Lheard
the manner in which the Noble Duke introduced this
'measure to your Lordships' notice, it was not my intention,
ttr have said a _single word ; and I should not have done
so had it not been for something which fell from the Noble
Marquis who has just spoken. Your Lordships will feel
that it is impossible I can hear my late Rig,t Hon. Friend
attacked without standing forward to rope: the charge.
There is one subject to which the Noble Marquis referred,
to which I was surprised to, hear him refer:. Ile said I
think—if I heard him right, and if not he will correct ow,
and I should be glad to find that I am mistaken—he said
as I understood, that many persons about him had re-
ceived pensions.who were not better entitled to them than
he was ; and that he had been rause,' his pension by tna
personal and political hostility of the late Mr, Canning—
(Hear, hear.)—My Lords, it is impossible for any man for
dive into the human heart, and say by what motives it is
actuated, or whit writs and was not its intention. My
Lords; it 'is impossible to disprove, therefore, the imputation
that has been cast on my late Right Hon. Friend ; but I
can confidently appeal, nokonly to thefriends of that Right
Mon. Gentleman—not only to indifferent: persons, but .I
might appeal even to political enemies of any late ,Right,
Hon. Friend ;' and I am sure, with one single exCeptiora--
(Cheers,)—there is not one of them who can suppose him
capable of doing so base a thing from so 'base a motive, and
in-so base a mannei,—(Chiers.)—That my late Right
Hon. Friend had strong feelings, like most men of talents,
and that he might have strong resentments, I will not deny ;
but that he felt any such resentment towards the Noble
Marquis I do not know ; but I can assure him, if the Right
Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Canning) had such feelings--if he
did entertain such an hostility, he would have shewn it in
another and very different shape, and not by refusing a
pension of 2,0001. a year to the possessor of two vast estates.
—(Cheers) My Lords, I wish not to speak of Mr. Canning in
connection with this subject ; it is a disagreeable one, hut
it.haa been referred to. My Lords, your Lordships know
that the subject has been mentioned before, and that the ap-
plicaticin of the Noble Marquees met with a refusaL;When
the applieation. *as made by the Noble Alarquesi to Mr.
Canning that he might receive a pensiOtiTor his Diplomatic
services, what was the result ? Mr. Canning did ',tot refuse ;
but with a tielieacy of feeling which belonged to him, he
thought that he would not be a proper judge of the claims
of the Noble Marquess ; and he did not choose—recollect-
ing, perhaps, the collision he had hail with one of the Noble
Mai quests 's family, and distrusting himself, he referred the
question to a friend of the Noble Lord, and a friend of his
brother—a most iinpaitinl Nobleman, and then at the head
of hit Majesty's Government. Ido not wish to revive the
discussion which then ensued. I hardly know what shape
the refusal took ; but the refusal came not from my deceased
friend—it catnefroth the Noble Marquess's friend, the Earl,
of Liverpool.—(Cheers.)—Fanits my Right Hon. Friend
had, but they were not faults of that ungenerous nature.--;
Faults he had—God forhid that I should say he did- not
share them with other men—but I am sure,that my_ftight
Honourable Friend would never have refused to the Noble
Marques that justice he refaced to no man. I am not
very well acquainted with this business of pensions, but I
believe the fact is that there is a certain sum set apart for
the Crown to bestow as pensions, and the Crown is not
enabled to grant any pensions after that sum is exhausted.
When the whole stun has been appropriated, no more pen-
sions can be granted. It is not to be inferred that, in grant_
ing pensions, the circumstances of individuals are not to
be taken into consideration : for if that were the case, a
pension might be giien to an opulent individual, and a per-
son who had served an equal time, and who might need it
more, would ao without. But the services and the cir-
cumstances of individuals were taken into consideration ;
or an opulent Minister might receive a pensien, and a
person equally deserving'might not receive one.• I suppose
it was-on this ground that the claim of the Noble Mar-
quis was not granted. It was no disparagement to that
`Noble Lord, but those who had the decision of the ques-
tion felt that be did not need the pension. This is the best
possible reason why it should not he granted. With re-
ference to the Bill before yoiar Lordships, I have to express
nay satisfaction at the manner in which it has been brought
iodainfundentiel;ecessary
fLlztitiles
the
mmers:lncu
braernenipinusa-,uscuflrieeeal mnbaosnauynnied:t
ot I,ol;:taalns,k,
it
ths
irtmehnedf tte,rrri esint:t!
forward by the Noble Duke. The Noble-Doke •has intro.
for me to add a single word with respect to the
grant itself. A' Noble Friend near me has made some ob
.serm.avnantei or no; s
tz•eh igerha,nti tthappears
thto e
sraubes,tanrecefi'rofmit. more
-not, therefore, enter into the observations of my Noble
Friend. 1 think the point essential to the memory of my
Right honourable Friend, as we'l as to the interests of his
his family,' and as to the mode of making it, I consider
that we shotild adopt that which may he found to be the
moat convenient course. lam satisfied with the course
proposed by the Noble Duke ; but if the grant could bentade
in the form proposed by the Noble Lord behind me,
should feel more satisfied, as it NN'opld be more gratifYing to
the memory: of at/ Right Hon. Friend—as a greater act
of justice to a distinguished individual. lam anxious that
the granting this pension should not be placed upon
any gtoond which could be considered displeasing to those
who were opposed to Mr. Carving's political principles
and condoct. ' If the question had been the erection of a
monument, er granting a public funeral, differences of opi-
nion might fairly be expected to arise upon it. But here
we have only to look back upon the great talents, the in-
defatigable industry and labour, with which Mr. Canning
had for years deVoted himself to the service of his country.
The measures he introduced received the sanction of Par-
liament, and the support of the country. Whether Par-
liarbent and the country were wrong in granting that sup-

.
,

port, is not now the question we are too late for that
inquiry. The only question for our consideration is, the
provision we ought to- make for the family of a departed
Statesman, who spent his life and injured his fortune in the
public service?
The Marquess of LONDONDERII Y explained.
Lord GODERICH—My Lord, there are many reason
why I should express the sentiments I entertain with ro.
spect to this grant. • In the first place, when I had the
honour of a seat in his Majesty'. Councils; this subject was
discussed between us, and I, in common with my col-
leagues, was of opinion, that it was our duty to submit
to Parliament a measure- of this description. I was
induced to take that ,course, not only from my sense
of the great talents -and "services—l may truly say, the
eminentrierviees—ot any late Right Hon. Friend, but also
"Nit thieprinciple, that if Parliament deprived the Crown
.of providing, for the.puhlic servants, who had enjoyed its
.conlidence and served it.well, they were bound to provide
other means by, which those services could be rewarded.
The sinecure places formerly in the gift of the Crown were
done away with, upon the ground of economy and prin-
ciple ; but if we did away with those places, it is our duty
to fill up the deficiency when an opportunity of doing so
occurs. And, therefore, I can see no force in the argu-
ments used by the Noble Lord on the right (Lord Dacre)
who has opposed the motion. I look upon the proposed
grant, not as a liberal donation, but an act of public justice.
Having said so much with respect to the grant itself, I
feel called upon to notice one or two observations which
fell from the Noble Marquess (Londonderry) who spoke
early in the discussion. The Noble Marquess professed to
support the grant; but I must confess that he did so in
rather an extraordinary manner.. For although he de-
clined entering into a history of Mr. Canning's conduct,
be has yet.given us enough to shew that he is opposed to
the principles and policy of "that Right Hon. Gentleman.
My Lords, I who was a party to that policy, and who sup-
ported the principles of'zny late Right honourable Friend,
have a right to object to the observations of the Noble
Marquess; and I now beg to inform. him, that if he
will afford me an opportunity of doing an, I shall be
ready to. show that his comments. are altogether without
foundation. My Lords, I .was surprised• to hear the
Noble Marquess assert that he had been refused his' pen-
sion by Mr. Canning on the ground of political 'hostility.
I will not weaken the very: able and eloquent, and feeling
defence of Mr. Canning made by my Noble Freud above
me (Lord Dudley); but I will tell your Lordships, and I
tell it with confidence, that with that refusal Mr. Canning
had nothing whatever to do.—(Hear, hear.) The appli-
cation was made to Lord Liverpool, and I was with him
at the time, and, the letters were shown to me. The Noble
MarquiS claimed his pension on the ground of right, but
Lord Liverpool held that he had no right ; in that opinion
I fully • concurred, and I should hive done so had the ap-
plicant been the nearest relative I have got in this world.
The grounds of the refusal have been clearly stated by my
Noble Friend (Lord Dudley), and I hold it not right that
the memory of Mr. Canning should be attacked with im-
putations foreign from his character and unworthy of his
nature. The Noble Marquis has assigned as another reason
for his support of this measure, the recent changes which
have taken place in his Majesty's Government. He has
told us of that change having been effected by what he
calls eradicating an incubus (A laugh), or, in other words,
expelling from the Cabinet the whole of those who thought
and acted with the late Mr. Canning. My Lords, I cannot
belie ve that such is the language, or that such are the
feelings, of the Members of that Cabinet; indeed, I know
that some of them have positively denied being actuated
by any such feelings as those now expressed by the Noble
Marquis. Ido not feel called upon to say more at present
in answer to the Noble Marquis's- observation ; but -upon
any future occasion I shall be ready to go more fully into
the subject, should an opportunity of doing so be afforded.

Lord SEA FORD—My LordS, • I do net wish needlessly
to prolong this discussion, but I cannot allow this motion
to pass without saying a few wards with. reference to my
late 4ieht Hon. Friend, as well as to his family, in whose
behalf this grant is proposed to be made. Truitingae I
do to the great talents and eminent services of Mr. Can-
ning—taking into consideration the estimation in which he
was held in the country, I cannot help thinking that the
proposed grant is inadequate to its objects. There are,
hpwever, circumstances by. which grants such as this are
limited, but they are quite beside the feelings of indivi-
duals or of the country at lane, and form no criterion of
th.emerite of the deceased. ,Howtiver, I may, in my own
opinion. regret that the grant has not been regulated in the
manner suggested by the Noble Lord (Dsere) behind me,
instead of being a mere pension. Cro a single life; however,
1 may think that the former would be more suitable to
Ai-mein-0-4 of my Right Hon. Friend, and more worthy
of an illustrious nation, still I am willing to grant it in the
way troposed by the Noble Duke who introduced it,
with a fairness, a candour, and a feeling of hon Our for
which 1, as Mr. Cunning's frieid, feel bound to
the; k him. The Noble Duke has put the question
fairly beforeyour Lordships, as a tribute to the usemory!of
an eminent Statesman, whose splendid talents had been de-
voted to the service of his country, while filling' the
highest offices of the 'State. This grant, 'if it does not
satisfy- the wishes, is at leastcalculated to justify the votes
of Mr. Canning's warmest friends, and is at the same time
calculated to disarm all political feeling, and shows the
fairness of a political antagonist (Hear, hear.) Thepro-
position before us is one so clear, so simple in its nature,
that it is not necessary to support it with much argument ;
besides the appeal made to your Lordships is of so power-
ful a nature, that I do not feel able to add one word to it.
There are, however, a few facts connected with Mr. Can-
ning's life, to which I wish shortly to call your Lordship's
attention. Mr. Canning was early in life deprived of his
legitimate inheritance -but he, by marriage, acquired far-•
tune sufficient to support him in independence and respec-
tability in private life. That fortune was, however, con-
siderably impaired at his decease. This was done, not by
carelessness or extravagance, for no man could be less ex-
travagant in his tastes or habits than he was. When out
of office, his establishment was small, and was conducted
with the greatest order and economy. But as a public
man, he found that his salary did not supply the expence
which he felt called upon to. incur. It has been well ob-
served by the Noble Duke, that the salaries of public men
were by no means.adequate to the expenditure which they
were called, upon to make. .So strongly was this felt, that
it has been usual to give to Ministers some additional office.
Mr.. Pitt, in-addition to being First Lord of the Treasury,
and Chancellor of the-Exchequer, was Warden of the
Cinque Ports. And yet Mr. Pitt, although a single man,
and by no means an extravagant man, died in debt. . This.
fact is
,always cited as a proof of the integrity and disinte-
resteedxnaeltssed s'otitthoasttioSo wtateshiinz' he and of
ofin the
the x
unPen attendingtcie.y.
death of Mr. Pitt, Lord Liverpool became Warden of the
Cinque Ports—a situation which the Noble Lord has
held for the last twenty years. Lord Grenville followed
expence
o 1 the
the
Mr. Pitt as First Lord of the Treasury, and had attached
to his office the Auditorship of the Exchequer. This office
was not held to be compatible with the other; but an Act
was passed continuing to him the salary while in office.
Mr. Percival succeeded Lord Grenville, and he had at-
tached to his office the Chancellorship of the Duchy of
Lancaster. I shall not take up the time of your Lord-
ships by going through the long enumeration of similar
cases', which I might cite in support of my argument, as I
have already said enough to shew the general practice.
Your Lordships should bear in mind that Mr. Canning
held none of those additional appointments, of which his
predecessors have bad the advantage, and the consequence
was, that he was forced to incroaeh upon his private for-
tune in order to support the dignity of his office. At
length art opportunity of repairing that fortune presented
itself; Mr.. Cunning was appointed to the Governorship of
India, and, considering the way in which he had injured
his private fortune, and the inroads he had been compelled
to make upon it, it was natural that he, as a man of deli.
cacy and honour, should be anxious to repair it. He,
therefore, accerted the office with pleasure. Besides,
there were other inducements which presented themselves
to him, India presented hint with high station and great
power; fame and fortune both awaited him ; be had the
example of his predecessors, some of them in this House,
who had returned with riches and with honour. But
when these prospects- were about to be realised, an-
other event • took place, by which he was called upon to
till a place of. higher honour and responsibility, but
one which was calculated to. impair, instead of "d-
-ing to his fortune. • He had then the public iutere:sts on
the one hand, and his private advantage on the other to
decide upon; but after a moment's deliberation he preferred
Lthoenflos,ritiiris,
qaunidte ganvoetuurpollnthdaiat"..sondose forctumnpee'tegether. Aly
nsatioa
should
be made to my Right Hon. Friend and hia family for this
my Right Hon. Friend deprived him or
sacrifice ; but there are sacrikes for which n high-minded
had graciously settled a pension upon r. , ;
alnalg, but he
could not enjoy it until his retirement from office. The
man will accept of no compensation. True,c, his Majesty
pension, and we are
now called upon to bestow that compensation en one of Mr.
hispr e a tf!,tme,
leydoe
of
t thhoef
Cunning's eons, which he himself would he entitled to if
enjoyment of that
alive. Parliament owes it to its own honour—it is due to
the honour of the country not to refuse this grant. Sly
Lords, I shall clog?, my observations with a remark upon
an expression which fell from the Noble Marquis (the Mar-
quis of Londonderry), and in doing so I must preemne
that he has found fault generally and hardly without an
exception, with the political principle* and policy of Mr.

Canning; so that I find considerable difficulty in adcd
souring to reply to hith.. If I were to undertake
throngh the whole political life and principles of 4
Canning; if I were to enter into a defence of his lit
Treaty, I should occupy the time of your Lordslol,,
much too great length ; I, shall, therefore, confide 1;1
self to the most brief outline Of what hoe. been too
by the Noble Marquis. With respect .to, what :IA!,
raid of the feelings of a personal nature enterttiot,i;
Mr. Canning, I shall not do the memory of,My
Honourable Friend the injustice of weakening, by sol,
servations of mine, the able and eloquent defencel,j
trounced in his behalf by my Noble Friend (Earl Dtini;,
near rue.—(Hear, hear !)—ln the conduct pursuedbi
Canning, he had the confidence of his Sorereiggbk
support of Parliament, and the co-operation of the per
That confidence was not withdrawn during his lifa„
his loss is more fully felt and more generallyiregretteVo,
day to day. To this I may add the esteem and'aduntl,
with which his name has been pronounced by sarroso
nations.—(fiear.)—This praise is of the more raltte,lp
the ruling principle of his life was the aggranclizeise° l.
this country. I cannot do better than read to yarn'
ships a character of Mr. Canning given in.an,Arnetir,
paper—a character which I think of mere importance;,
it omes from a man writing under strong prejndits.o
whose testimony is the less liable to suspicion. The pa-
lam about to read is attributed to Mr. President Add
It is as follows :

" With all our admiration of the mental powers of 3411,
Canning, Whither as inherited from nature, or carne
their highest pitch by the discipline of business and 51:,
—whether we masked their efforts when brought to,
most momentous trials, or only gazed at them when
dazzled in lighter ones, truth compels us .to state, theta
was never the political friend of this country. HA
Briton through and through---British in his feelingf-"- I
tish in his nims--British in all his policy and prOjeets"
made no dif&rence whether the lever that was to raise",
was fixed at home or abroad, for he was always and
British. The influence, the grandeur; the &pia
Britain, were the dream of his boy..hood--to.cevw
them'all over the globe, even in the remote- region, if"vi.
the Waters of Columbia flow in solitude, formed the ilatt,
efforts of his riper years. For this he valued,power•-"''
for this ha'used it."
My Lords, the American writer has spoken the 00,
of my Right Hon. Friend. He was a Briton,throlteq
through. To establish the dominion, and gloryotad
pitieas, of his"country, was indeed the dream of his yoy,'
and the Abject—.l may justly add, the successful OPc,IA
of his maturer years. To have succeeded in thus *oo'o,
the admiration of distant nations, I bold to be the `;4of
pletion of my Right Honourable Friend's triuniph,
withstanding what lies fallen from the Noble/Vlarqui'
the other side. '•

The Earl of MORLEY read a letter from,the late
,1;
Canning, in which. he stated that be felt himself b°6° :r
sacrifice his private interest to his public duties. lie
dially supported the motion.
Earl GROSVENOR said, n whichthat the pensio • t"'
were now called upon to sanction, was one which,
aught they knew, might last for the next .hall. eent*ito
He recollected that when the Act was paved, eioec°oo,
were so obnoxious, that it was decided that the per'''
allowed in lieu of them should not be granted, excePh!!'
persons who hid been public servants for a consider°
Consolidatedpe
vi
s ah different
Case.rioni
bo i dlboe.na.
to have
ot
point
enßhhoaau confessed
ttyt
nFeat
oouhtp
fhneprrvidi
seevi
ee;agwrtttrv7bhaa.
usnaeptttlne
shhoei
property
meiuptrmtl
ui
dhtiwyshaoibcg,
sufficientservicegha tt
he
linmatlookedtl edlwein
ut
otiaol
naisteistbypti leo:ou
ioi
e
op
w
rt sy
dignity of the title, unless at the time the Peerage °t
granted, it was also recommended to grant a properlw-0
pension. If this were not the practice, what would f
result ; but .that the newly-created Peers woald not
dependent upon the Alinistry, who might create t"?
from improper motivea, to any extent they please 4
He should now coins to the question of the Peerage ie,
diately before the House. With reference to this pars';,
lar case, be should, in a constitutional point of views Pod
fer voting for an adequate provision for the suppkirt oLoi,
'title, rather than'vote for se inadequate a sum 418
a-year. This principle' was observed when the car
was conferred upon' Lord Nelson, although, in his fapioo,
the sum voted Oa that occasion was very disproporti/'
to the nature of the case. The same principle was follow°
in all the elevations to the different ranks of the AFT
conferred upon' she Noble soil Gall,m puke opposite.
House voted the Noble Doke a large sum for the support
the dignity of the Peerage conferred on him, and he (L:li,
Grosvenor), although he differed from Ministers respe"h;
the Spanish war, was the first to suggest the vote.
had been told that Mr. Canning's private fortune has
paireiir but the grant ought to be made solety'uP" Pa r
lie grouncis, and he Mt that' Mr. Canning's great ~tale"„l,'
had been devoted to the'service of the country. lie
ip
however, have preferred the vote, had it been pv4l°'
the meaner suggested-by the Noble Lord opposite. li
The Duke of WELLINGTON said, what the
Earl had advanced respecting the principlenf provisi°°
certain cases of raising individuals to the Peerage, Wrto
be found extremely objectionable, and was a princiP febe
which the House of Commons would never assent. c;
effect of what the Noble Earl had advanced was, I°, 1:81
to the Crown the power of granting pensions beyond gold
it now possessed. No measure could be lotted which Wo,
give greater offence, Occasion more practical inconre,,,aild
or create greater and more general dissatisfaction.. P__Ae for
already stated distinctly the grounds on which he.s.9s`",ke
their Lordships' support of the Bill. He wished to wale
but one observation upon what bad fallen from hi9:ll ofr
Friend at the commencement of the discussion. Pe
er
jetted to the vote, because the grant would be take° Ibie
from other grants provided for by the Act. But 11'0
Friend had argued the point as if the family. of the ‘lOl3
had a positive right to the pension; but his MajeitP9ioo
the contrary, had a right to grant or withhold the P1,,,,,(1
under the'Act in question. Air. Canning not having '4' vol
three years, in pursuing the present course the Crow?
deprived itself of part of the prerogative granted to 't
the Act of Parliament. The pension had been cooferri,,
on the younger son, as the elder one was in the Ilbe
and was therefore considered of not F safe a life. ,4
grant to the younger son was therefore more advantage°
to the family.
The Bill was then read a second time.
CATHOLIC EMANCIPATION.
sadbur,
Lord HOLLAND presented a petition from
signed by the Archdeacon and other Clergymsn, I'l 0 ,11 ;
by the respectable Protestant inhabitants, praying tha,i;tie
House would be pleased to remove the existing disiltwn'ted
from the Roman Catholics. His Lordship then pre- J
a similar petition from the'Roinan Catholic inhabitao,
the same town.
At Seivvenheon'ctek trhieouHseeuhseadadajod
adjourned, Mr.
Mmorn.dajoar:Se,t;
the Deputy Usher of the Bliak Rod, came forwtir...°;ol
addressed the Reporters, Stating, that the 11°"tlie
Monday night would probably be much crowded belo
pliC
bar, by persons anxious to hear the debate on the 011:4fe
Question, he must prohibit any newspaper's havid ;eh
than one Repoi ter in the House at a tittle ; and tbo ifee
Reporter must quit the House before the Gentle .38e,1
relieved him could be allowed to enter. It was suggligi
m'i„;:easeerrang,edEnesentrtoywthouelsed nusef SilPeTioarecill
in reply, that suicnh
isf;
create frequent and great gape in the report of every or
and these would,
sisteticy of, perhaps, most important picaegea, ieclo
the effect of the whole debate. Quarme ier.of
that, strictly speaking, it Was his duty to prevent
notes whatever being taken in the 'House. o..„,,i'etioe
the Reporters here observed, that the accoune°,oly
afforded to the Press was for the instruction of 04...,c0ce
lie at large, and for the gratification and coare":l bP
of the Members themselves ; and, perhaPs, it vr°"'',.
better either to exclude the Reporters altogether, °.„" bie
afford them that decent accommodation which would e7,„41
o
m
y
placed
ri
age:" inewei ttti them' Mr.
dense
IfnloseArec,
crowdrs cyUtlartarnitepei precision,
rsatonhn
persons,
House, must be aware of the utter impossibility of reriyat
n
,uew: arduoushve: nroyswhose
thel 'ite duties
ne
anxietyp Report
what was uttering at such a distance occasioned rit Peke
tual jostling, and every other species of inconveoie6o
Such difficulties almost destroyed in the Reporter en,Ywre
of responsibility for what be publishvd. It was fins 10,
quested that, at least for the night in question, the get
men of the Press might be accommodated with the g.
railed in at the extreme right of the Bar. Mr, Q 0,4011
answered that such am indulgence could he panted o°'Yd
the IlOuse itself; ha which 9,lir 'Reporter rejoined, dr
Lord Eldon, when Lord Chancellor, in anxiety 0,11.0 v
last debata on the Catholic Question should be 41e00,,,i,
st
reported, had granted the accommodation noW reitt,eooo,
without any solicitation whatever on the part of the r
No reply was made to this, and the conversation here
initiated.

' HOUSE OF COMMONS, JUNE
Mr. MUNDAY presented petition from Ashfo'rus,.
the county of Derby, for'the rabolition.of 'slayery.
MARYLEBONE VESTRY. ff,
Sir THOMAS BARING presented a' petitioooder
500 inhabitants of Marylebone, holding teneimentoe/Y
the Duke of Portland in faciiir ofthe Maryjebone
Bill. VY'
Sir T. BARING brought up de report en o

lebone Festr)
,be read a sec
Mr. AST
aniPadrneat,
made out Spa
' traduced; it at
kind*. of ,
and
confiden
hest establish
when.there ss
noW are. T
()vet come esu
portion of th
trile, i a favo
`tined it were
•Sir T. BA
rnatie by the
t}te Fommitte.
bet's of the se
body. He sip
urse of twee
la the course
(143, and
a year, they
ejected to th
litved that an
parture from t
tking but an
Hon. Membe
that the inlaat
at all events
4`tsl. was cha
Port, and ahei
' were carried
their bonds at
mate'; and win
to pull it
were all prove
there were
furnishing at
fur velvet ; tw
the communic
'tat, ; and 21
!T°Pe himself
't necessary fi
that the &lee
gtoes malvem
debt of 2274
•iud this, .wit'
'inflator:ice ma
ll'arkted a pieta
to Mr.
This
they had the g
[NI no light
%1 this pictut
1411ity they had
20. t object to t
ol.tt they shot]
)sets of men
.10ble Lord at
tinnal Debt wt]
dlineed the Hon
pariah of
leveral appeale
"Nur alteration
7,plipd to hav
taitry. This
ittd
▪ no coursi
,4"148P. He h
Beata,
M. ROSS
otoserved,
4101 been, greatl
than had beet
414 e was only
rba Perambuts
ttY foolish ; 1
444:1 the preset
Iliad manner.
*lough there i
eve scrente,-!
4r the a
than a word of
sear attended,
Mould have 131
att...w.k411 all veo
Mr. HOBI
kid, that the!
the irestrvrnen,
42% a Comm'
wing of a
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H I
d
called ups
"41Annse) cam
'
4m generally.
ia„„
s„ 1171
.`l4.aditure of
The tic
t:e said, that
ILP• the Report,
11: evidence ;
4" very peva(
',13, Pie, who ha
11,4 totally
ttout able Mel
u() Were on tb
i'ltnPrornise. T.
laugh)—the
414 it --(Hear
embers who I.
a4JOrity of b
;i the e, as he befor
4it
tea, blouse v
‘rYtuen, they
st` was objected,
11tveuld be an c
%lithe aPpointm,
~__``--aged annual)
7miet.. Should
.kewAs easy to r
to thought it
thplaiped of
to tins
elhienents red
ti;majority of
In the kingd
:31r. G. SMI
'audible.
EtAG
t P4-;•11 of 314
1! Pared
oh..ta OF other p
Parc d. The
,I4Pt conduct,
R
tint the
t't'Y were f ktr un c
ga.• 1113;t1E
t;;,'4,000/. t
%:°Orelt for 19,1
414'14 °t nn exi
h
ki ,1. for wive
tgat they W 4
4;;I* PIIILLI:
lvtittolled the
• ,`'.lltra.l little i
4Lsh OWE
,q, the H
• It't BARR`
link, alma! of I
ie.,?IA.BERI
Levi,• BARD.
t 4 6,13,1!..1)een ado
p
tao 4 "':r, it was
440, Pqrseete of st
sto
yw, nat.PuerC
444 '''bed to ht
uf 0. •
utely „ —evr
iw4.7(:eßsary ti
ar7juiu:6rO ;WGI
';•hi.trar'lC °rell3s;
itenuse were
F„rthe Am,
Against it,.,

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