The Sun.
London, England, 1845-01-22 00:00:00

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THE FUNDS-(CLOSING PRICES.

BRITISH FUNDS.
Bank Stock
3 per Cent. Reduced
3 per Cent. Consols ........... 1001.4
New 314 per Cent
Long Annuities to expire Jan. 1860 121 3-1 e
Ditto 30 years, Oct. 10,1859
Ditto 30 year?, Jan. 5, 1860
India Stock
South Sea Stock
Ditto New Annuities 993/4
Bank Stock for Account.
Consols
Exchequer Bills, 1,000/., 60 pm.
Ditto 5001.
Ditto Small

FOREIGN FUNDS.
Portuguese Bonds, 5 per Cent —
' Ditto Account 601%
'Spanish 5 per Cent. 1844).
Ditto, Account 2B‘,4‘,
Ditto, Passive
Ditto, Deferred l7l'
Ditto 3 per Cent. .. •
Ditto Account
Dutch, 21,4 per Cent
Ditto, 5 per Cent 99
• SHARES.
Bristol and Exeter, 70 paid 7614
Catalonian, 5 paid
Chaster and Holyhead, 5 paid ..... 7
Churnet Valley, 2 paid
Cornwall, 3 pain
Dublin and Belfast Junction, 21/2 paid
Eastern Counties, 25 paid...
Ditto Perpetual, 5 per,Cent, 3% paid, No. 1 ll4
Ditto ditto, 13s. 4d. paid, No. 2
8
Eastern Union, 10 paid..... 11•8
Edinburgh and Glasgow, 50 paid
Ditto Quarter Shares, 12% paid 161%
Great Southern and Western (Ireland), 5 paid 11
Great North of England, 100 paid
Ditto New Shares, 5 paid 274
• - Ditto New, 2 paid
.‘.l
Great Western, 75 paid
Ditto Half Shares, 50 paid lOl
Ditto Fifths. 20 paid 3931
' London and Birmingham (Stock) . .. 236
London and Brighton, 50 paid 53
London and Greenwich, 12 4 paid
London and York. 21;l2 paid
Lynn au d Ely, 14 paid
Manche ter and Leeds, 70 paid
' Manchester and Birmingham, 40 paid ... 56%
Midland, 100 paid ...
Midland, Birmingham, and Derby, 100 paid 97
NewesAve and Berwick, 1% paid ... .. 101,E
North British, 71/2 paid
Norwich and Brandon, 8 paid
Rugby, 1 paid 3{3‘
South Eastern and Dover, 33u paid 47 ,:i
Ditto New, 2 paid
Shrews., Wolverh., Dudley, and Birm., 2i pd. 314
its Staines and Richmond, 1 paid lf/ %
South Wales, 212 paid 4%
Trent Valley, 2 paid ll
West London, Old Shares, 20 paid
Ditto Ist Class Preferred 9
West Cornwall 11% paid 41%
' Yarmouth and Norwich, 20 paid 29
Ditto, New Shares, 8 paid 153,,i.
York and North Midland, 50 paid
Ditto, Selby Scrip, 20 paid

FRENCH RAILWAYS.:
Great Northern of France, 4 paid
Paris and Strasbourg, 2 paid
Rouen and Havre, 12 paid

ought to be made to say only what they mean,
and to mean what they say ?" Yet this is the
-proposition which cannot be safely hazarded at
a convocation of a Christian Protestant university:,
This state of the public mind is distressing, not
merely as affording protection to the most serious
evils, but as proof of a great intellectual decline.
Great men wrestle with or dispose of objections
that little men weave about themselves, like some
insects, until they are smothered in them. We
need not reflect long to know whether the
manufacturers of or the tramplers upon objections
most advance the knowledge and the happiness of
mankind ? Not all the Germans that ever

lived—and they have ever been and are the
great artists in this line—have done so
much for human knowledge and learning as
Locke and Butler, Bentley and Porson—men more
remarkable for nothing than their contempt of the
objection trade. The most eminent objector that
ever disgraced this country was Mr. Malthus.
He objected to feeding the poor, lest they should
exhaust the granaries of Providence. He had
his day, as the objectors to making men speak
truth will, we suppose, have theirs. Posterity
will look upon both with equal contempt and
pity. But Mr. Malthus was the cause of inde-
scribable evil ; and the objectors of whom we
have now to complain will, we have no doubt,
be the authors of even worse evil. Let us not be
understood as imputing blame to the Oxford Board ;
they have done their part nobly in, framing the sta-
tute, and perhaps they have used a sound discretion
in withdrawing it. We know not whether it is com-
petent to a single member of Convocation to propose
the measure. If so, we have no doubt that it will
be proposed—aye, and carried too—while the Board
will be relieved from the responsibility of having it
carried by a small majority.

SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS.
F3OM TM:. EVENING PAPERS OF THIS DAT.
GLOBE.—TiIe near approach of the period when
Parliament will be called upon to decide whether the
property and income-tax shall be abandoned, or con-
tinued in a modified form for a longer period, invests
with peculiar interest the question of its superior fit-
ness as a means of obtaining the necessary supplies for
the government and defence of the country, to an
indirect system of taxation. This question is dis-
cussed, with considerable clearness, in the pamphlet
on the property-tax by G. P. Bushe, Esq., to
which we alluded on nlonday. We resume our
notice of that pamphlet, for the purpose of examining
the writer's views on the expediency of continuing,
and even perpetuating, the tax on property as a sub-
stitute for the existing system. Mr. Bushe strongly
advocates a modification of the present income-tax, so
as to convert it into a property tax, which shall be
levied upon every description of property in the United
Kingdom, whether the proprietor resides at home or
abroad. One of the arguments—the expense of collect-
ing the•indirect taxes—adduced in support of this re-
commendation, is worthy special attention. The pro-
portion which the means bear to the end, will always
be a consideration in the fiscal arrangements of a wise
Government :—" The Customs produce annually
about 22,000,000/., and the expense of the establish-
ment, in all its department, civil and military, for
collecting this sum, is about 2,400,000/., or nearly 11
per cent. on the amount received. Now, according
to the best authorities, about 19,000,0001. of the
Customs' duties are obtained with comparative little
difficulty or expense ; and it is to secure the other
3,000,0004 that a great part of the establishment is
required ; the proportion of which is estimated at
about 1,000,0001., or 33 per cent. on the sum collec-
ted." This most improvident expenditure—this waste
of public money, the impolicy of which a careful re-
vision of our present system of taxation would expose,
and•thus prepare for its abandonment—is thus illus-
trated :—" If a merchant sends his clerk to call in
moneys due to him ; and, on his return, the clerk
makes out a bill for expenses amounting to one-
third of the sum brought home, the merchant will
assuredly investigate the matter, and introduce
very material alterations into his system of proceed-
ing:" Yet it is in a precisely analogous manner that
England, the most commercial nation in the world,
has for a long time collected a large portion of her
revenues, and still continues to collect them. An abo-
lition of the Customs' duties which produce these three
millions, would enable the Government to reduce the
expense of a Customs' department by about a million
—a clear saving to the country to this considerable ex-
tent. It is certain that the demands of the revenue
must be supplied. The great mass of the labouring
poor can only be enabled to pay an increased rate of
taxation by an increased rate of wages; so that, after
all, the means of taxation must be furnished by
the wealthier classes. Some of these may be tempted
to cry out against the increase of taxation to which
they would he subjected by a tax upon property ;
but without reason. The further taxation is removed
from capital, and the more indirect its operation, the
greater must le . the cost of its collection ; or, in other
words, the greater must he the sum lost in gather-
ing it in, and the greater the gross amount re-
quired for the services of the State. Nothing can be
more unequal than the pressure, nothing more expen-
sive than the collection, of revenue from the great
masses of the population. If the labourer is to pay
one shilling, the capitalist will have to supply him
with much more than one shilling, in order to make
up for the waste and profits of capital while passing
through so many hands—downwards, from the
capitalist to the labourer ; and upwards, from the la-
bourer to the tax-gatherer. The ultimate saving to
the community by a system of direct taxation
would be immense. Nor is this the only '
form in which the people would find relivt
from the substitution of direct for indirect
taxation. It is under the veil of indirect taxa-
tion that monopoly, with all its miserable conse-
quences, has been allowed to stalk through the land.
It is only because the evil is not discovered in its
natural hideousness, th:.t a bread-tax in the shape
of corn-laws, or sugar-tax in the shape of protection
to the West India interests, has been allowed to carry
on its inordinate exactions. Were the wants of the
State supplied from the property of its sulsjects, with-
out any circumambulations, the benefit would be felt
by all. The burden would be equally distributed;
and payment for protection would be made in pro•
portion to the value of the property protected.
STANDARD.—At a late hour yesterday it was
determined to withdraw the addition to the statute
" de auctordate," &c., intended to be proposed at the
Oxford Convocation on the 13th prox. We deeply
regret this determination, but we have been
some time prepared for it by the multitude
and variety of objections to the intended proceed-
ings which we have heard from different quarters—
objections not proceeding from the Romanist party
only or principally, but from men who highly prize
tine Protestant character of the Church and Univer-
sity, prize it above everything, except—each man's
display of his own private wisdom. It is a melan-
choly reflection that in the age in which we live, no
united effort can ever be made upon mere reason and
conviction--passim is the only feeling that will so
far discipline our rampant self-opinion as to bring
us to act in perfect harmony. Tell any one in cold
blood that he must sacrifice this crotchet or that
scruple to ensure the success of a common enterprise
and he will tell you that his crotchet orscruple is very
precious in his eyes, and that he is not a man to
compromise his oivn convictions in even a trifling
matter ; while in this very obstinacy about trifles he
is making the meanest and most unprofitable of all
compromises—sellinga noble end for the saving of
some petty means.
his wretched temper of the
time is almost a sufficient excuse for those who
inflame men by sppeals to their most violent
passions before calling upon them to act in pursuit
of any important object, a complete excuse for the
authorities in the Church declining to take any
definite course in repre'sing the evils thatthreateis
the Church, and ultimately the State, with ruin.
M
Bien can he brought to concur in nothing
definite, because such concurrence involves the
humiliating confess ion, that there are others
in the world as wise as one's self; the o'er
of the most simple definite proposition is a sum-
mons to the exercise of that most vulgar and
universally Aitrosci. t4lents, the talent for
" picking holei." What simpler proposition, in-
deed, can be imagined than this, that men

lb. In Pouchong there has, however, been a fair busi-
ness at 7d to 10d per lb, and a fassnutd,hle opinion is en-
tertained towards this kind of tea. Hyson is unal-
tered in value ; common is 2s 7d to 2s Sd, mid to good
2s 9d to 3s, and superior from 3s 2d to 4s 6d per lb.
For Twankay of common quality the offers made are
such as holders are not inclined to accept, yellow leaf is
worth is 2id to is 31d, brightish leaf, is 4d to is 9d, rind
Hyson kind is 10d to 2s 5d per lb. Imperial and Gun-
powder are fully as high as last quoted, but there is a
pause in the demand. For fine scented Orange Pekoe
3s 4d per lb is readily obtained.
Sercus.—To-day Sumatra Pepper met with attention,
and 2,299 bags at auction were all sold at full rates, half
heavy clean selling at 2id to 2ild ; fine light 20 to
20 ; sea damaged, first class 20 to 2 d ; second ditto
2d ; third class 2d ; ditto and repacked 20. White
was little called for, and 286 bags at public sale were
nearly all taken in at 5d to 50 fur good mid, and 40
for mid, being moderate rates.
Rtrx, BRANDY, AND HOLLANDS.—lmporters of Ja-
maica Rum for the most part are not inclined to sub-
mit to any further decline in prices, and the home trade
are cautious in their proceeding ; small parcels have
been sold, 28 to 30 per cent overproof common
and middling quality at 3s 6d to 3s Bd, better
32 to 36 over 3s 9d to 4s 2d, fine 4s 4d to 5s
per gallon. In Leewards purchases to a fair ex-
tent made at 2s 2?..5d to 2s 3d per gallon, proof strength.
Calcutta Rum 2s to 2s id per gallon, is the value of
proof with certificate. In Demerara only a limited
business has been done, but prices are not lower, and 3s
to 3s 3d is the worth of strong qualities. Holders of
Brandy still manifest firmness. Cognac, best brands of
the vintage of 1838 hhds 5s 3d, puns 5s Id; ditto, 1839,
hhds ss, puns 4s 10d; ditto 1840, hhds ss, puns 4s 10d; ditto
1841, hhds 4s Ild, puns 4s 9d; ditto, 1842, hhds 4s Bd,
puns 4s 6d; ditto, 1843, hhds 4s6d, puns 4s 4d, common
2s 8d to 2s I Id, middling to good middling 3s to 3s 10d,
and Bordeaux 2s 6d to 2s 9d per gallon. Geneva is firm
in price, export at is 9d to Is 10d, and fine for home con-
sumption 2s 4d to 3s 6d. English Corn Spirits at lOs 2d
per gallon, cash.
RlCE—Although there are sellers of Bengal at the re-
duced rates previously noticed, still the demand by pri-
vate contract has been limited for home consumption
and shipping ; mid white at lOs 6d to 1 Is, and good mid
lis to Ils 6d per cwt. None has been offered at auction.
Madras of yellow quality is still wanted, at auction the
sound ofl,ooo bags was taken in above the value—that is,
good yellow at los, yellowish white Bengal kind lOs 6d;
damaged sold at 8s to 95 6d per cwt. Java is dull of sale.
Patna is 13s 6d to 17s per cwt.
FRUlT—Currants are still much wanted, and an ex-
tensive business has been transacted since our report of
Tuesday last ; Zante new has been fetching 49s ; I'atras
50s to 52s ; Valentin Raisins are 50s. Red Smyrna
'Wins at 45s to 46s per cwt.
INDIGO.—The market has an improving appearance
for East India Indigo, and the demand at the quarterly
sale which comm* need to-day far exceeded the ex-
pectations of many parties, the low prices decidedly
attracting attention. Of the quantity ads ertised,
7,474 chests, 3,656 only were Bengals, the re-
mainder consisting of Oudes, Madras, Kurpahs,
and Manillas. The biddings were very brisk, and the
competition very animated, especially for the qualities
fit for shipping, which from their scarcity brought an
advance of 2d to 4d per lb on the prices of the last sale;
the same observation applies to good and fine consum-
ing qualities. Ordiaary and low sorts of Bengals and
Kurpahs were also in good demand at the October sale's
rates, whilst regular Madras were comparatively
neglected, at a discount of 2d to 4d; 929 chests have
passed the sale, of which 228 were bought in. Bengal
Indigo sold from 2s 4d to Ss sd, Madras 2s 2d to 3s 6d,
and Kurpah 2s 5d to 3s 5d per lb. Indigo at and under
3s per lb is worth attention.
COCHINEAL.—This afternoon Cochineal was in excel-
lent request; at public sale 94 bags of Honduras and
20 bags of Vera Cruz were offered, the whole sold at an
advance on former rates of Id per lb. Honduras com-
mon silver fetched 4s 6d to 4s 7d, middling to good
4s 8d to 4s 9d ; Mexico fair to good black, 4s lld to
5s 2d, and one silver 4s 7d per lb.
SALTPETRE—TO-day an increased desire was mani-
fested to purchase Rough. 1,000 bags of Calcutta were
offered at auction, and all sold at fully former rates, or-
dinary grey 104 per cent refraction sold at 25s to 25s
6d; Si per cent ditto 25s 6d to 265; 5i per cent middling
grey 375; fine white very bold chrystal 41 per cent 27s
6d to 28s; 31- per cent, ditto, 28s ; unretracted 20s to
25s ; washed 22s to 255; washed and shifted 20s to
21s 6d per cwt. The market has a firm appearance.
OILS.—The supply is still increasing of Sperm Oil, and
a further decline in prices has taken place; of 150 tuns
at auction a part only sold at 801 to 8415 s for Oil, and at
u'3l 58 to 841 per tun for Headmatter. For all sorts
of common Fish Oils the home trade have pur-
chased sparingly, and fbr exportation there are
few orders—Cod has been selling privately at 291 lOs
to 30/. Seal, pale 321 lOs to 33/, yellow 30/ to 31/, Straw
311 to 32/, brown 281 to 291. At auction 100 tuns were
only in part sold at 291 15s to 321 for Southern, and at
27/ to 29/ for Elephant Oil, being 20s to 30s
per tun under the rates of the last sue.
Lions. Linseed Oil has been in excellent request at
23s 6d to 23s 9d on the spot, and at 24s to 24s 6d per
cwt for forward delivery, at which the crushers are firm.
Of Rape, many parcels have been sold at firm rates; pale
at 368 to 36s 6d, and brown 35s to 35s 6d per cwt. Cocoa
Nut Oil, fine Ceylon has fetched 27s 6d to 28s, and good
26s 6d to 27s per cwt. Holders show firmness. Olive Oil,
Gallipoli at 42/ to 434 Spanish 411 to 421, Sicily 411;
Barbary and Levant 39/ to 401 per tun. Of Palm se-
veral parcels sold, and 233 to 26s per cwt paid for good
and fine.

TALLOW.—A decline in the value of all kinds has oc-
curred ; 453 pkgs of South American selling at 35s 6cl
to 38s 3d for fair to fine quality, 245 casks of New
South Wales 35s to 40s, 138 casks of first sort
Siberia yellow candle SBs 9d, 100 casks of St. Peters-
burgh yellow candle 38s 6d to 38$ 9d, and 119 casks
Soap Tallow 37s 3d to 37s 6d per cwt. For auction 100
csks of North, 150 csks of South American, 100 casks of
St. Petersburgh, and 150 casks 20 tons of Colonial
Tallow are declared. Holders of Russian are still
anxious sellers on the spot, but submitting to a
further reduction in prices occasioned the demand to
be good, and 39s 6d to 39s 9d are the current
rates taken for P Y Candle of fine quality. There are
sellers for forward delivery upon low terms, yet at
present few buyers ara to be met with ; 40s per cwt is
the quotation for the last three months of the year.

THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVEN'ING JANUARY 22 i(345.

J. Coupland and F. Duncan, merchants, Liverpool—
a div. of ss. in the pound, on Wednesday, Jan. 29, or
any subsequent Wednesday, at the office of Mr. Morgan,
Liverpool.
F. Duncan and J. Coupland, merchants, Liverpool—a
div. of 14s. 7d. in the pound, on Wednesday, Jan. 29, or
any subsequent Wednesday, at the office of Mr. Morgan,
Liverpool.
E. Johnston, jun., and T. Manley, sugar refiners,
Whitehaven, Cutnberland—a fourth and final div. of
one halfpenny and seven-tenths of a farthing in the
pound, on Saturday, Jan. 25, or any succeeding Satur-
day, at the office of Mr. Baker, Neweastle.upon-Tyne.
J. Davison, farmer, Marton, Yorkshire—a third and
final dividend of threepence and one-sixth of a penny
in the pound, on Saturday, Jan. 25, or any succeeding
Saturday, at the office of Mr. Baker, Newcastle-on-Tyne.
W. Waddell, merchant, Liverpool—a second div. of
6d. in the pound, on Monday, Jan. 20, er any subse-
quent Monday, at the office of Mr. Bird, Liverpool.
G. Cottam and W. Osburn, jun., wine merchants,
Leeds—a further div. of 3d. in the pound, also a fur-
ther div. of 2s. 6d. in the pound on the separate estate of
G. Cottam, on Tuesday, Jan. 21, or any subsequent
Tuesday, at the office of Mr. Hope, Leeds.
J. Porter, callenderer, Barn,,ley, Yorkshire—a second
and final div. of ss. 101 in the p )und, on Tuesday, .Jan.
21, or any subsequent Tuesday, at the office of Mr.
Fearne, Leeds.

DIVIDENDS.
At the Court of Bankruptcy, Basinghall-street.
B. Perkins and S. Woolley, drapers, Stamford, Feb.
14, at half-past one—F. Shotter, grocer, Portsea,
Hampshire, Feb. 13, at eleven—R. Thompson, draper,
Strood, Kent, Feb. 11, at twelve—T. G. Martin, wine
merchant, Coal Harbour-lane, Camberwell, Feb. 11, at
half-past one.
In the Country.
T. and W. Reeves, coach builders, Claines, Worces-
ter, Feb. 19, at twelve, at the Birmingham District Court
—S. Eccles and C. Ridings, cotton manufacturers, Man-
chester, Feb. 28, at twelve, at the Manchester District
Court—R. Rochester, butcher, Hartlepool, Darham,
Feb. 13, at twelve, at the Newcastle-upon-Tyne District
Court—T. and R. Bulmer, rope manufacturers, South
Shields, Feb. 12, at eleven, at the Newcastle-upon-Tyne
District Court—R. Smith, attorney, Worcester, Feb. 12,
at eleven, at the Birmingham District Court.
CERTIFICATES to be granted, unless cause be shown
to the contrary, on the day herein-mentioned.
R. Eaton, butcher, Featherstone-street, City-road,
Feb. 12—B. B. and B. G. Owen, tailors, Pall-mall. Feb. 14
—W. Burchett, chemist, Whitechapel-road, Feb. 12—
J. T. Maund, laceman, Birmingham, Feb. 11—J. John-
son, apothecary, North-place, Gray's Inn-lane, Feb. II
—R Footner, cabinet maker, Lymington, Southampton.
Feb. 11—C. B. Reynolds, tailor, Devizes, Feb. 13—R,
Rochester, butcher, Hartlepool, Durham, Feb. 12-11.
Nichol!, worsted spinner, Halifax, Feb. 14—I. Ketcham,
merchant, Liverpool, Feb. 13—T. Crosfield, sen., linen-
draper, Kirkham, Lancashire, Feb. 12-It. Youd, cheese
factor, Liverpool, Feb. 11—T. Scott, baker, Colchester,
IFeb. 11—J. J. Brea, tailor, Bath, Feb. 11—J. White-
head, common brewer, Ainsworth, Lancashire, Feb. 11
—T. Tabberner, corn factor, Birmingham, Feb. 11—R.
Robinson, coal merchant. Strand, Feb. 11.
PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED.
J. I. and C. L. Lucy, wine merchants, Kidderminster
—J. Hadland and R. Shillingford, warehousemen,
Cheapside—F. Hicginson and E. R. Coles, shipowners,
Rochester—W. Pistell and C. Aylifle, painters, Basing-
stoke, Southampton—J. Armstrong and J. W. Wright,
hatters, Brighton—J. Ormerpd and P. Hargreaves,
cotton sheet manufacturers, Bacup, Lancashire—M.
Grange and B. Booth, hosiers, Manchester—T. Tootal,
I'. IL Tootal, and E. A. Tootal, corn merchants, Wake-
field—S. Butler, W. Butler, and J. Butler, ironfounders,
Birmingham—J. Stephen Son and J. Royston, en-
gravers, Manchester—R. Bradley, W. Barrows, J. Hall,
F. Downing, and T. Darby, coal masters, Rowley Regis,
Staffordshire—St. Austell Gas Company, St. Austell,
Cornwall—C. Tayleur and J. F. Dupre, iroufounders,
Warrington—C. Tayleur, W. 11. Tayleur, W. Bates, F.
Pennington, D. Madden, and C. W. Claude, Liverpool—
J. Inkson and C. Roth, Little Ryder-street, St. James's
—J. Reeve and T. Holyoake, surgeons, Kniver, Stafford•
shire—C. Brown and J. Williams, drapers, Cheltenham
—J. and It. Lynex, wire workers, Birmingham —J.
Wilkinson, F. Wilkinson, G. Wilkinson, and S. W. Wil-
kinson, cotton spinners, Stockport—C. Stephenson and
J. Caley, Liverpool—W. Hewitt, sen., and W. Hewitt,
jun., coal merchants, Bristol—W. Miles, T. W. Kinder,
and T. H. Wheeler, coach builders, Leicester (so far as
regards W. 111iles)—J. Hughes and W. Hanson, lime
masters, Sedgley, Staffordshire—R. and E. Leeds,
millers, Norwich—A. Hazeland and H. Manning,
common brewers, Melksbam, Wiltshire—J. S. James
and P. Stacey, sand dealers, Stratton, Cornwall—T.
and T. Penson, farmers, Foxcote, Gloucestershire.
SCOTCH SEQUESTRATIONS.
Henry Stevenson, general merchant, Leith, Jan. 28
and Feb. 25, at two, at the Exchange Hotel, Leith.
William Grant, cattle dealer, Marnoch, Banffshire,
Jan. 24 and Feb. 21, at twelve, at the Banff Hotel, Banff.
William Gray, merchant, Dundee, Jan. 25 and Feb.
15, at twelve, at the chambers of Shiell and Small,
Dundee.

John M'Culloch, baker, Kinross, Jan. 27 and Feb. 17,
at twelve, at Kirkland's Inn, Kinross.

THE MURDER. AT RUISLIP, COM-
MITTED EIGHT YEARS AGO.
EXAMINATION OF THE ACCUSED.
Charles Lamb, a prisoner in the' Houso of Correction,
Cold Bath•fields, yesterday underwent an examination
before Mr. Mills, an Uxbridge magistrate, in the board-
room of the vrisoi., on a charge of having murdered John
Erie', a Youtil m siteen; rito was murdered in a wood
at Ruislip, in February, 18.1.
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were at hide and seek together, About a fort-
night before Lamb was sent to prison I Was
coining from Ricknaansworth to Harefield with him, and
when we were in a lane at the bottom of a field we
began to talk about getting into trouble and getting out
again. I said, " It is easy enough to get into trouble, but
not very easy to get out again." Lamb said to me, "You
have been in prison haven't you ? I have heard it is very
bad." I said, "Of course it is ;" and he then said, " I
would sooner be taken far murder than go to prison
fix this." I said, " Murder I Charley ?" and he replied,
" Yes. I was in Churchill's wood getting a bundle of
wood when John Brill came up to me, and I took
and struck him and knocked him down. A few
moments after that I took and picked up his cap, and
hung it upon a bough, and put his bill hook and cap
beside him, to look as if he had fallen out of a tree."
Lamb then said to me, " Nobody else knows of it but
you, and if you tell, I will kill you." He said that when
Brill came up to him, as he was walking along the wood,
he said, " Well, master Lamb, is it you ?" Upon
which he took and struck and knocked him down. I
had heard of the murder some years ago ; and that a
man named Lavender had been had up for it. I have
always been on good terms with the prisoner Lamb.
The reason of my making this statement was that I
had had such queer dreams. I thought something
would happen if I did not tell. I have voluntarily
made this statement, without promise or favour from
any one. I first made it to Mr. Hoare, the chief warden
of the House of Correction, having first told the yards-
man that I wished to do it. I was twenty-five years of
age last August. lam now looking Lamb in the face,
and I state that he told me what I have now said, and it
is the truth, and nothing but the truth.
Mr. Woodbridge (the clerk)—Now, Lamb, have you
any question to ask the witness ? Lamb—No, Sir ; I
can't ask him anything. I never told it to him. If God
Almighty refuses to receive me into heaven I never did
it. You must be a very wicked man to say I told you
so ; you must be worse than the man who did the mur-
der, whoever that was. Thank the Almighty, I have
not to answer for that, let me go where I will, or suffer
what I will for it. You are doing this just on purpose
to get yourself out of prison.
Colonel Chesterton, the governor of the prison, told
Lamb not to make these declarations, but to confine him-
self simply to putting questions to the witness if he had
any to put.
Lamb repeated he had no questions to put.
James Brill was next called, and stated—l live in
the parish of Ruislip. I once had a son named John
Brill. He was about 16 years old in the year 1837 ; it
will be eight years, come next February, he worked
for and lived with Charles Churchill, a farmer. He
was missing on a Thursday, and his body was found on
the fodowing Sunday, in what is culled Young Wood, in
the parish of Ruislip. I saw the dead body in this wood
lying on its back. James Lavender first discovered it,
and called out to me. I was about 300 yards from him
at the time, in the act of searching the woods. His cap
was hung on a little white thorn bush. By the side of
him lay a bill-hook and " hedging cuff," or sort of glove.
I saw the body lifted up, and blood gushed out both
from his nose and mouth.
The Clerk—Do you wish to ask him any question ?
Lamb—No, Sir, I have no question to ask him.
Charles Churchill—l live at Ruislip, and am a farmer.
I recollect as well as if it was but yesterday, that John
Brill was in my employment on 16th Feb., 1837. I
recollect the day on which his body was found. On
that morning, about half-past nine o'clock, I sent him
to take three cows into the meadow. He had a billhook
in his hand, and a cuff to stop up the gaps in the hedge,
which the fox-hounds had broken down. I told him
when he had finished the gaps to go into the Young
Wood, and then into the path which leads up through
the Young Wood to my house, and to watch that wood
until towards one o'clock.
By Mr. MILLS—He was to watch it against persons
cutting wood. I had been out before, and I was going
out. I told him if he saw any one cutting not to inter-
fere, but only to get near enough to see who it was. I
was going to Uxbridge market on that day, and when
I got down against the Six Bells, the landlady came out
and asked me to give her a ride. A man named
Meadows came out and asked me if I had heard a gun
go off in my cover ? I said, no ; but got out and went
across to John Brill, whom I found stopping the gaps
according to my direction; that was the last time I saw
him alive. I then told him, when he went horde to his
dinner, to stay at home until I returned, which would
be about three. On my return, finding that lie did
not come to open the gate, I thought something was
amiss, for he was a lad that was always to his time. If
you told him to be anywhere in the middle of the
night, he was sure to be there. I had heard threats
against the lad, because he was a witness in a charge
of poaching which had been preferred against a man
named Lavender. I then went into the woods to see
if I could find him ; and searched about the woods, hut
could not find him. I then sent to his father, who,
with another man, went in search of him, but could
not discover anything of him. Next morning, at
daybreak, the search was renewed; but they did not Lind
him. Did not search on Saturday, having heard
that he had run away, and had been seen at West
End. There were one-and-twenty persons search•
ing the wood on Friday. On Sunday the search
was resumed, and had not been continued more than
half an hour, when he was found by James La-
vender, who cried out murder. I went up and saw him
lying on his back dead, by a bush, witk his arm hooked
up against a bush ; his cuff and bill lay at his feet.
Some blood ran from his ears. The body was taken
to the Six rens, Ruislip-common. his head dropped as
if his neck was broken, when they first lifted him up. I
was not present when the surgeons examined him. I
did not see any bruise on the temple or other part of the
head. I saw on the Monday that some underwood had
been cut at about 23 or 30 yards from the place where
the body was found.
Mary Allday—l am the wife of Thomas Allday and
live at Ruislip-common. My husband is a labourer.
I recollect John Brill being lost on the 16th February,
1837. On that morning I saw the prisoner Lamb at
the Six Bells. I was looking out at an upstairs window
of my father's house, where I then lived. He MIA
going down the footpath leading to the wood now over-
looked by Churchill, and had a bill in his hand.
I saw him again a little after twelve the same day; I was
up at my grandmother's house at the time. He was then
coming from the direction of the wood with a bundle of
wood on his shoulder—large green bits in the middle,
and the smaller pieces outside. It was green wood, and
apparently freshly cut. He went towards his own home.
Mr. MILLS (to the prisoner)—Have you any question
to ask ? Lamb—No, Sir, what she has stated is perfectly
true.

THE LATE DOCK ROBBERIES.
It appears by the police reports, that four of the
men out of the five charged by the London Dock Com-
pany with being concerned in the late extensive rob-
bery of tobacco from the London Docks, have been com-
mitted to take their trial at the next syssions ofthe Cen-
tral Criminal Court. No further evidence seems to have
been brought against them than on the previous exa-
mination before the magistrate—viz., that of being
concerned in the one robbery in question—though
they had been remanded in the expectation that it
would have been clearly proved that they were also
the perpetrators of the other extensive robberies of
spirits at the neighbouring Docks, it being the
opinion of the Dock authorities and of all con-
nected with the Dock establishments that these
daring robberies have been effected by a gang of
plunderers well acquainted with the premises, who
have managed to obtain admission into the docks
in a surreptitious manner, to await their oppor-
tunity. The several instances, therefore, of the
robberies of brandy from the St. Katherine Docks
continue undiscovered, and not the least clue having at
present been obtained, bringing the matter home to the
guilty parties. The Company are understood to be
exerting themselves to the utmost to bring the per-
sons concerned in these impudent and daring frauds
to justice, and probably, although no proof appears to
have been obtained as yet, something may arise out of
these inquiries between this and the period of their
trial, which are being made by the parties inte-
rested, inculpating the persons alluded to in these
transactions also. It may be useful to remark, in
order to calm the public mind with respect to these
robberies at the Dock establishments, which have
created considerable excitement and alarm fur the
safety of property at these places, that considering the
extent of the premises, and the extraordinary num-
ber of all sorts of packages, and of every description of
merchandise, necessarily lying on the quay at all
times, after being landed from the importing vessels,
and previously to being housed, very few robberies take
place, and it may confidently be anticipated, now that
the gang of plunderers has ben broken up by the police,
that we shall hear of no more attempts of a similar
nature being made. At all events, from the expe-
rience furnished by the late discoveries, and the in-
creased vigilance observed in consequence by the
Dock Company's watch and the police, it will be
almost impossible for them to be effected with any
degree of success.

Henry Woodman—l am a labourer, living at Ruislip.
I knew John Brill. I have lived at Ruislip ever since
the period of his death. On that day I saw Charles
Lamb near the wood, and he asked me it l had seen Mr.
Churchill and his wife go by. I saiu I had about an
hour and a half before, upon which Lamb returns d into
the wood. I saw him get over the gate into the wood.
That same evening I heard that the body of John Brill
was missing.
James Lavender deposed to having found the body on
the Sunday, as deposed by the other witnesses.
Rachel Brill, mother of the deceased, saw a large
bruise on the side of his head when the body was taken
to the Six Bells public-house.
Mr. Charles Woodman, farmer, of Ruislip, saw the
deceased on the 16th February, 1837, at work mending
gaps in the hedges. He was then alive and well.
Charles Bray had met Lamb on the 16th of February,
1837, on Ruislip•common, He was out of breath, was
sweating, and said he was not very well. Witness told
him if ho would go to the Six Beds he would give him
half a pint of beer. They went together, and had two
pints of beer between them. Heard of the lad's being
lost the same night.
Mr. Robert Burton, late of Uxbridge, and now of
Dorset-street, Portman-square, stated that he assisted
Mr. Patten in examining the body of the lad Brill the
day before the inquest. It was Mr. Patten's case, and
witness assisted him. Mr. Patten was since deceased.
The left ear was very much swollen and livid. Had
no doubt that he died from violence ; on removing the
skull cap found the vessels very much gorged. There
was also a greater effusion of blood on the right side of
the brain than on the left. This would lead to the con-
clusion that the effusion had been caused by a violent
blow on the left side.
The first witness, Sibley, was recalled, and stated that
he recollected hearing of the murder, but did not help to
search for the body, and did not hear any particulars of
it. Only heard of it as a murder. Did not hear of the
body being found, and had never heard of the cuff and
billhook, until told of it by Lamb.
As the witness was leaving the room,
Lamb said to hire, " A'n't you ashamed of yourself,
George ? If you are not, you ought to be."
Mr. MILLS—What do you now say to the charge,
Lamb ? Prisoner—All I have got to say, Gentlemen,
is, that I never named it to him if I was to die " mo-
mently."
Mr. MILLS then told the prisoner that it would be his
duty to send him for trial at the next session of the
Central Criminal Court.

POLICE INTELLIGENCE.
MARLBOROUGH-STREET.
STEALING A PAIR OF GLOVES.—Henry Alfred Mesnel,
a person of respectable appearance, was charged with
having stolen a pair of gloves.
One of the E division constables, who took the accused
into custody, said there was no prosecutor in attendance
to press the charge.
Mr. Mesnel said his character was so affected by the
proceedings which had been taken against hint, that he
begged to be allowed to explain the circumstances which
led to his being taken into custody.. Ile was at a convivial
party at a public-lion the previous evening, when one of
the company; worse for the good. cheer of which he had
too freely partaken, began to fight with another of the
party. He (defendant) interfered. Ir revenge for this
interference, the person in question charged him with
stealing his gloves, and actually called a policeman and
gave him into custody. The constable received this
charge, and persisted in conveying him to the station-
house, although the landlord of the house came forward
and said the gloves were in his bar. The charge was
booked, and he was detained to answer it. As he cer-
tainly should bring an action against the party who had

thus deprived hica of his liberty on such a trumpery
charge, he begged the magistrate wou.d allow him to
have the name and address of the complainant as it ap-
-0.124 on the police-sheet.
This was gitott4; and the defendant was then dis-
charged.
CABMEN'S FROLICS.—Thomas Seiqlli 11 as charged with
having assaulted Thomas Dell.
The parties are cabmen, and the assault occurred on
'Monday evening, in Conduit-street, in consequence of
some "14ttlins," commenced at the Coach and Horses
public-house.
It appeared that a numbef rtr cabmen were engaged
in a new ganie called " one off behind"--the main fen-
ture of which consists in approaching a person unper-
ceived, and by a smart blow on the rim of the hat be-
hind, causing it to fall off backwards. The complainant
and defendant were of the party, and as there was an
old grudge between them, the play very soon ripened
into earnest.

According to the defendant, the complainant com-
menced hostilities by throwing a pewter pot at him.
The complainant, however, dented this, and asserted that
the defendant followed him out of the house, and knocked
him down repeatedly.
A good deal of conflicting evidence was brought for-
ward, but as the defendant did not succeed in clearing
himself from the charge of having acted with great vio-
lence, Mr. Maltby inflicted the penalty of 40s.
MA le YLEBO/VE.

His Excellency the Belgian Ambassador, residing in
Portland-place, attended at this Court, when the follow-
ing charge of extraordinary conduct on the part of a well-
dressed young man, named John Julius Koch, was gone
into before the sitting magistrate, Mr. Rawlinson.
The prisoner is a ycuig man of foreign parentage, and
is the son of a gentleman holding a highly respectable
situation in a large mercantile house in the City.
Susanna Bryan, nurse in the family of his Excellency,
deposed, that fit a long time past the prisoner had been
in the habit of following her whenever she went out with
the children, and that his conduct was altogether of a
very annoying nature. He would frequently come be-
hind her and, by making horrid grimaces, frighten an
infant which she was carrying in her arms. The oc-
currences which she had last alluded to took place six or
seven months ago ; he had since annoyed her repeat-
edly, and on that morning, when she went with
the children into the broad walk of the Regent's
Park for an airing, he (prisoner) was there. He spoke
not a word, but kept close to her wherever she went.
Witness concluded by stating that she at last contrived
to get away from him and reach home without any fur-
ther molestation.

Mr. RAWLIMON— During the whole time of his acting
in this manner has he never assigned any reason for his
behaviour ? Witness—None whatever, Sir. He has
never offered a single word in explanation.
Hardwick, 80 I), corroborated the first witness's evi-
di nce as to the conduct of the prisoner in the park ; he
(Hardwick) had received information of what had been
going on, and was employed by his superintendent to
keep watch.
Stanley, 48 D, stated that in November last he saw
the prisoner follow the witness Bryan, and the children
who were with her. He informed his Excellency of it,
who then declined to give him (prisoner) into custody.
Witness added, that on that day he saw the pri-
soner in Portland-place, and by his (the Ambassa-
dor's) directions took hi:n in charge.
The Ambassador here stepped forward, and said that
the prisoner once spoke to him as he was leaving home
of an evening. but what the purport of his address to him
was he conld not say ; he (prisoner) was the son of a
foreigner, and his father, who was a highly respectable
man, seemed unfortunately to have no control over him.
The Ambassador concluded by expressing an opinion,
that the state of mind of the prisoner was defective, and
that he might, unless restrained, do something of a serious
nature. The Ambassador was about to enter into fur-
ther particulars relative to himself and his lady having
been annoyed by the prisoner, when
Mr. RAWLINSON desired that he might be sworn,
His Excellency objected, stating he would not be al-
lowed to take the required oath in this country, holding
the situation which he did as one of the corps diploma-
tique.
Mr. RAWLINSON (to whom this doctrine seemed quite
new) asked his Excellency if he, while residing in Eng-
land, and therefore under the protection of the laws of
this country, would, in the event cf his pocket being
picked in the street, or his house being robbed, object to
give such evidence upon oath as might have the effect of
bringing the guilty party to justice?
The Ambassador signified in a few words that he
should, from the position which he occupied, object to be
sworn.

Mr. RAwLINSON (to the prisoner)—What is your ob-
ject in annoying the Ambassador's family in this way?
Prisoner—l must acknowledge my fault; I have no
more to say.
Jones, usher of the Court, said, a few months ago the
prisoner was brought up charged with firing off n pistol
in the Regent's Park, and that for that offence he was
fined.

The prisoner was remanded, and will be brought up
again next Tuesday; and, ad interim, an examination
will be made by the surgeon of the prison as to his state
of mind.

QUEEN. SQUARE.
Yesterday George Gaon, John White, and William
Burgess, three boys of about sixteen years of age, were
charged with misconduct at St. Luke's Workhouse,
Chelsea.

Mr. Sutton, the master, said that about seven o'clock
on the previous evening, having missed the defendants
from the house, he watched for their return, and just be-
fore the hour of going to bed he saw them get over a
wall from the churchyard. As he had frequently cau-
tioned the boys he gave them into custody.
Prisoners made no defence, and were committed for
fourteen days.
Mr. Sutton observed, he was quite at a loss to know
what to do with the boys. They set the authorities at
complete defiance, and, notwithstanding that he had re-
sorted to every means in his power to keep up proper
discipline itt the house, they were in the most insubor-
dinate state. How the pre sent state of things was to be
remedied he really did not know. Punishment in the
house, or punishment inflicted by the magistrate, did not
seem to check the evil ; several of these boys had been
brought by him before the magistrate a few dar ago,
and on hearing their sentence of fourteen days impri-
sonment, they laughed at him, and on being removed to
the cell set up a shout of defiance. One of the three de-
fendants in the present charge had been concerned in
the desperate attack on him a little time back.
Mr. BOND said he should have mentioned the circum-
stance before.

Mr. Ryder, the chairman of the board of guardians
of St. Luke, Chelsea, hoped he should be excu ed for
offering a few observations on the subject. How to
maintain that discipline so necessary in a large
establishment with such a refractory set of boys was
indeed a matter of great difficulty. All their efforts
to restore order were unavailing, and they were
placed in the most unenviable position. But a short
time since a number of the most desperate of them were
charged with a premeditated attack upon the master,
and, although that person was half murdered by them,
arid it was shown at the last Middlesex Sessions that
their conduct had been of the very worst description, Mr.
Sergeant Adams had sentenced several of them to 24
hours' imprisonment. He had committed— it was true—
two, he believed, for three months, and three to two
months' hard labour ; but there never was a term more
falsely applied than this term " hard labour." The very
slow pace at which the wheel turned, with the circum-
stance of their scarcely having to raise their feet, added
to the fact that they were not on for more than a quarter
of an hour, or at most twenty minutes at a time, ren-
dered it anything but the term which had been misap-
plied to it ; he would undertake to say that there would
be more hard labour in running three or four times up
One-tree-hill, Greenwich Park, than there would be in
working at the tread-wheel. tie would also make an ob-
servation with respect to the food. He had been over
Coldbath-fields prison, and had been informed that the
allowance of food to the prisoners was twenty ounces
of wheaten bread per day, and meat four times per week,
while that in Chelsea workhouse was twelve ounces per
day, and meat three times per week ; and it was con-
sidered that the paupers fared better (and he made the
observation with thegreatest respect to the ratepayers)thun
many who were compelled to contribute towards their
support. After such decisions as those to which he had
adverted, he would ask what protection there was to any
one administering the New Poor-law ? The parish
authorities had difficulties of no ordinary character to
contend against ; it was their anxious wish to treat the
poor with kindness and liberality, but it was at the same
time their desire to keep up proper discipline and order
in the house. After the triumph these boys considered
they had gained the law appeared to have no terrors for
them, and the authorities were perfectly at a loss to
know what course to pursue.
It having been suggested by the clerk that when they
had been guilty of such gross misbehavour it would per-
haps be the best course not to re-admit them,
Mr. Ryder observed, that the magistrates had said
that in some cases they should adopt that course ; in
others that they should visit the boys with corporal
punishment. If they refused to admit these boys, and
they were found in a destitute and starving condition in
the streets, the authorities would be held up to public
odium and contempt, and stigmatised as monsters in
human form. The view he (Mr. Ryder) took of the de-
cision to which he had before alluded was concurred in
by many masters of workhouses whom he had spoken to
on the subject.
Mr. BOND said he should be happy to assist the autho-
rities in enforcing proper discipline in any way that lay
in his power. It was perhaps desirable that boards of
guardians should have more power to punish within their
own hands.

Mr. Ryder repeated his regret that such a sentence
should have been passed for so brutal and premeditated
an attack. After contrasting the sentence passed at
this Court a few days ago of 14 days on some of these
boys for insolent and disorderly conduct with that
awarded by Mr. Sergeant Adams at toe Sessions, he ob-
served, with a smile, that he only wished that gentleman
would undertake the office of master of a workhouse for
one fortnight.
Mr. BOND, having repeated his desire to assist the au-
thorities, requested that Mr. Sutton would in future in-
form him as to the previous character and conduct of the
parties accused.
Mr. Ryder thanked the magistrate, and withdrew.
SO II TH IV A BK.
George Elliott, described as the secretary of a public
school at Battersea, was charged with violating the per-
son of a woman named Wilson, a widow, advanced in life.
The complainant attended at the Court on the pre-
ceding day, and made a statement to the effect that an
outrage of the above description had been committed on
her the Friday before, by a person named Elliott, at a
house in Wellington street, Walwortb. When ques-
tioned by the magistrate as to the reason she had not
given information before, her reply was that she had
been so ill since the occurrence, that she was unable to
leave her room. Mr. Ira directed the woman to re-