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that I should be enabled to state the course which the
6, nterlament intended to adopt, and that I should be autho-
‘.2l"4lto state-in-the. , the:sentitnente oftthe Govern-'
meat,lWita'verY vertrare,liewever, that as there were
some judicial considetutions-vonnretekwith the question, it
was itnpossible to.pledge the individual Members of the Go-
rrninentes to the.course it might be proper ultimately to
pursue; 'but.:aseurning that Ices& grounds might ap-
P"r for the disfranchisement of both or either of the ac-
clu'ed boroughs, I was anxious to accommodate the impres-
nils °I- tuy, mind. to the general opinion of the Govern-
le lit, ankto state this opinion to the House. I did, there-
titree' .41 compliance with this view of the subject, bring
ntatter under .the attention of my colleagues in the
tele
Goe„,
-notent. , I stated to them that I had postponed
-eni any step upon the subject, until both franchises
t-blni2,•te, he dealt with. I presented it, . therefore, before
at a double question of disfranchisement. I ob-
,-I▪ 'ved, that-with respect to Penryn, we might consider
'4°- opinions of the Committee . as being decidedly
el/Preased, front the eery large majority which had
;4e - .Bession voted for the -disfranchisement, but.
-4 the evidence,respecting East Retford. was not yet
brought to a termination, so us to be submittetl to the.con-
4"tettition of the Government.
•• I stated my opinion, at
the tame time,.that it was not very likely the House would
e2neerst adopt the same course with Penryn as it had
"t•
en.vvitla•Grampound, and that it was probable it could
•
▪ nsitiew ,to) y. open. the tight of voting to any of' the
;flodreds. of Cornwall. I thought, however; at the
and I expressed ,it as my opinion, that East
Retford was placed in a very different situation from Pen-
r)n.i. and I , proposed, therefore, that the Government
i _ ,o.uld give ite.asseut.to the proposition of the Noble Lord.
Russell.),.'for conveying the franchise of Penryn to
' K4anehester, ; and that ,the franchise of East . Retford should
open to the adjoining Hnndre 1. I cannot say that
soya lirOposel met with a. very ready acquiescence from my
71..!!PagueSe. but I did,
.after that time, consider myself at
1-tY) as -,the organ.. of the Goveratnent, to give my
'ts4lrt to Stich an arrangement, while I reseiv,,ed to my-
self the Jight, as an individual, to pronounce` my judg-
reent upon the evidence which might be brought
fore me to substantiate the charge ofeorruption against
ast Retford. • Reserving to myself this • right of judging
11[411 the eiidenee, .according to my conscientious con-
.: Ntion of its value, I did,_therefore,, feel it incumbent upon
' 41e0,a1 the organ of the. Government, to take the precau-
dascerteiniug that course which I might be authorised
.4°, 601 upon its members to ,support, because I did not
Pick it consistent with good faith to lend the support of
the. Government to any_ measure in this House, unless I
Nuld he satisfied that.it wauld lie advocated with equal
:4 in the other.—(Hear, hear.)—This is what I stated
3 the Members _of the Government, and this was the
Ili;ound aspou , 3040, I proceeded ; but I do declare
°At. solemnly, that I. never submitted to them any
N. cal As to what was to be done in case of there
tin; only one Borough to dispose of. With respect
the Boecregh of,Penryn, I considered that there had
1.1411 Ou-ee- several. acts of interference upon 'the part of the
,e._°foie; and I thought At likely that the. House of Cona-
na, as a branch of .the Legislature, would be disposed,
.'"'t merely as in a Court of Law, to consider the simple
'44 of bribery proved last Session, but that haying before
determined to make a forfeit of the Franchise of Penryn, it
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"041 d, have a right, in coming to a determination upon the
:tthieet, to refer to its own previous acts. In submitting
the choice madeeby tfreeNoble Lord for the Franchise
bl,Penryn—A choice confirmed by a majority of four
t 4
otle--I certainly considered Penryn as at the mercy
(1 the House, and I never contemplated the possibility
_4l' the Bill being lost from defective evidence, as I under--
TM now that it is likely to be. In this state of things the
Gentleman (Mr. Tennyson) brought under the con-
;:geratien of. the House the case of East Retford. I did
•.on that occasion, . act hastily. The question of the
4'cond borough; was coming on before the other had been d is-
,l3'eel of; and .I felt that nothing could be more repugnant
my .feelings,, upon the grounds of policy and pro-
-I`'etY, while there was a chance of the other Bill being
-fleeted
not to he able to state the determined intentions
°et the Government. On the very day, therefore, before
that fixed, for the debate upon the East Retford Bill, I took
;neasuresfoc.the assembling of my colleagues, in order to
4Y the question before . them. That meeting took plice
°4 a Senday, but no final determination was come to on
'Rat day. I repeated my unwillingness to be present in
the House at the discussion, unless I possessed some autho-
nty to declare the intentions of the Governmene ;
(in Monday, the very morning of the day ox which the
division tonk place, .4 second meeting of my Colleagues
was held, to reconsider the question. Most certainly, I
was not etuthorised,- as a Member of the Government,
4t that meeting, to, give, as their organ in this House,
lni•oonsent to the transfer of the franchise.to Birmingham,
;14,_ if I had been so. disposed myself. My Right Hon.
di nd observed, that in the previous .discussion I took a
ot line of argument upon the question from that
'midi I adopted then
Mr, HUSKISSON here observed, that he did this .in-
14efitently. -
Alr. PEEL continued-e-My.Right Hon. Friend says he
',l,latle this observation inadvertently, and I thought at the
i Inle he had spoken of this matter inadvertently, and in
the heat of argument.. My Right Hon. Friend said, that
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be hail only one Borough to deal with, he would con-
-`l,,nt to give it to a great manufacturing. or commercial
I.rin, and he says that an inference was to be drawn
4)to what ',said,. which .warranted him in thinking my
°Pitiions to coincide with his.. This is most certainly
tit very first•time I ever heard that any such inference
;aa to be, drawn from what I said upon this subject ; and
k really must say, that in all, the discussions which have
ti
kelt place upon the nuestion, I never heard that any
uelt infetence could, be drawn front any thing I said,
I, front any arglinient I had ndvanced. Sure I am, pot
Ul events, that no authority was given to me by 'the
le ambers of the Government to make any admission upon
1e subject of the single Borough. The Right Hon.
4eutletnan will recollect, that on the Sunday when the
tuetting took place, I told him he was in a different situa-
-4o from the other Members of the Government. I said
• :4? nay Right' Hon. Friend, " You have made a declare-
%on upon the subject of the single Borough, which may
:!nharTass you—you have already declared, that if there
t'vat only one Borough to dispose of, you were prepared
' give the franchise to a commercial and manufacturing
‘'wo." My Right Hon. Friend may not recollect this
Very probably- he does not. " Bat this' I 'certainly did
hllderstand from the Right Hon. ntleman, and I think
Will bear -me out in what sap, that he entered into
,:e views: of. the Governments until the question came
7 he further considered, and that nn the night when
the
voteddifferent sides, he had. agreed to support
.40 views of. .the••Governmenta Reserving the right of
144graent vested in each individual Member of' the'
LOU,se
.and-ethe. Governmeat, I think the Right Hon.
`ientleman will raeollecte that until the House of Lords
`erne to a decision upon Peuryn, lie agreed on that night
adhere to the Resolution moved by the Hon.' Member
Hertfordshire. The Right Hon. Gentleman will core
fret use if I ant mistaken ; I think, however, the Right
Ilan, Gentleman will admit he declared, that 'when the
't fury n Bill came to be disposed of, the time would come
the redemption of his pledge, but at present he thought
ige better. course would be to adhere to the course adopted
7t the. Government. I certainly understood the Right
Qns Gentleman to acquiesce in this proposition. I am
tilt indeed quite.certain that he did not propose it. Upon
tLat night the Right Hon. Gentleman proposed to redeem
e Pledge he had given "did not know; but knowing that
had given his assurance .of voting with me on that night, I
Futbenide my fit. lion. Friend throughout the evening with the
t. p 'eat impressioa that lie would vote with mei and I did so
;en efter I bad heard the speech of my Right. Hon. Friend,
e,:!der the couvietion thet the further consideration -of the
111 Would be postponed.—(Hear, hear. )--In the course of
e deliberations with my colleagues upon this subject,
tf4tved that this was the first time the disfranchteement
4! a Borough had been made a Cabinet question. It was
observed,.that upon questions of this kind various opi-
t;°lls ii!iot,be formed, according to the different consti-
elei?o of the eaels individual when applied to a
p "Pet involving matter of judicial discussion. If the
ItittlrYa Bill was thrown out, it was therefore understood
he (tech individual was to be allowed to vote according to
4Puliar impression of the merits of the case. I do not
icing' WhetherWe did not come to a Resolution of that
'1; but this I am sure of, that iiOelt was the understand-
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tuong us. I deny, however, most positively and most
I,lpequivocally, that I. ever gave utterance to any opinion
tie !!,1 the course I meant to pursue upon the subject of the
he: t,Borough.. In the haste and anxiety of debate, I may
I}A:i'xpressed myself, perhaps, itnperfectly ; but I deny
vsetisj, gave any authority to form such a conclusion.
,te 41 ask, indeed, after' what I have stated, whether it
f!ett at all.likely that I. should do so I approached
• eteq4eitiota Perfectly. ee ;aild . unfettered, but I felt that
to P.the.oireumstatealhave stated, •I was not at liberty
tova:tiare my opinions. In the course of the debate, bow-
ed °,l that evenin(, my Right Hon. Friend was remind-
gell(.a Noble Lord (Lord Satulon), who spoke front the
tta,,,7, of the promise he had made upon the subject of the
I er of the franchise of this single Borough. 'And Kerr
,
little m observe, that my Right Hon. Friend has not a
conee:!tPtised me to-night, by declaring that he could not
lee ‘" to accept as an apology for not redeemine Lis
itt' the paltr subterfuge of their having no precise
now
'edge is thatyHouse of-What had taken place in the

other. Now, unless I am very much miaiaken, the Right
Hon. Gentleman argued upon that very occasion, that the
House,of Commons had no such knowledge of the proceed-
ings of the ,House of Lmala as would warrant them in con-
cluding that the tranehise of Penryn was not to be disposed
of In the way they had determined.. The Right Ho-
Trainable Gentleman contended, at least, that they had
no official or formal knowledge Of the fact which would
antliorise them in forming a conclusion. I Possess,
however, a Report of the debate, and I shall take the
liberty of reading the passage to which I entitle :
" It ought nut to be forgotten, in considering the pre-
sent question, that there was a Bill which had been
ant from that House to the other House of Parliament,
and which they could not knave might not pass into a law ;
and leaving the arguments upon the transfer of the fran-
chise to Birmingham totally out of the question, I think it
would be highly inexpedient, without any knowledge, at
least without any regular . knowledge, of the fate of that
Bill, to.send up.a.second. Bill to the House of Lords with
a similarprovision:".--After such a declaration as this,
confess I was surprised to hear the argument of my Right
Hon. Friend.--[Alr. Huskisson here said, we believe, that
he meant they had no conclusive proof.]-!-My Right Hon.
Friend says he had no conclusive proof of the loss of the Bill.
If it passed, then he obtained the objects he desired. But I
agree with him that there was no formal information upon.
which they could proceed, or upon which they could con-
sent to rescind the Resolution. I do, however, assure my
Right Hon. Friend, that if he had said he must redeeth
the pledge he gave on that night—if he had told me be
thought it wculd be more consistent to redeem the pledge
at once-,--he never would 'Ave heard one single syllable from
me upon the subject. Ire had come down to the House
with a different understanding ; but if he had said to me,
that the time was come when he ought to redeem the
pledge he had given them, then the matter might have
ended without any difficulty. My Right Hon. Friend,
however, did vote against-the Government, anti that gave
rise to the transactions 'of Which I am about to speak.---I -
have now stated all I know upon this subject, and the.
course I pursued through the deliberations. My Right
Hon. Friend says that he-saw looks he did not like since
he gave the vote, from some persons, and heard of 'obser.
vations being made by others, which had given him great
dissatisfaction. I- do not know whether mine are the looks
which el* Right Hon. Friend did not like, but I must
say that my Right Hon. • Friend is very much 'deceived if
he supposes .that I looked -wits any displeasure upon
the occasion~- or that I attached more than a very slight
importance to -the difference of opinion which had been
expressed. Knowing the understanding• which pre-
vailed between us upon the course which was ultimately
to be adopted, I was prepared to meet my Right
Hon. Friend with feelings very little altered. I should
have thought, and I say it with perfect fairness, that it
would have been better if my Right Hon. Friend had stated
to me the grounds of the vote be intended to give, before.
he did give if. The Right Hon. -Gentleman, however,
proposed that the decision upon the question should be post-
poned ; but, after what bad, passed,: I had no alternative
but to press the question to a division. I assure the House
and the Right Hon. Gent. that I never preferred any corn-
plaint upon the subject of the Right Hon. Gentleman's vote
to any Member of the Ministry ;• and nothing ever gave me
more surprise thadto find that the consequences of that vote
were a tender of the resignation of the Right Lien. Gentle-
man's office. I hadnever conveyed to any one the slight-
est expression of dissatisfaction; anil nothing, I repeat,
surprised me more than that tender of resignation. I have
now done with the first of those periods contained in the
Right Hon. Gentleman's speech, and that part which re-
fers more particularly to myself. I now approach the
second and subsequent part of these transactions, and I
confess I do so with feelings of the Most painful interest—
the more painful, because the Right *Hon. Gentleman has
made several observations upon the conduct of -the Noble
Dube at the head of the Government, necessarily and un-
avoidably in his absence; but some of them in a spirit
which I deeply regret. Regret them, I say I must, be-
cause I know-"the intentions of that Noble 'Duke ; and
if I did nett' know them, I can assure the House most
solemnly, -I would not he-here''to address them from
this place,- and upon this occasion. I repeat, there-
fore, that I do think some of these observations were
made in a spirit not calculated to do justice to that Noble
Person, or to give a perfectly fair representation of those
circumstances which led to the present occurrence. In
order to understand this part of the,question, I must take
leave to refresh the memory of the House, by reading that
letter upon which the whole question mainly depends. As
that question merely turns upon the fact of—whether the
first letter to the Noble Duke did, or did not, contain a
fonnarresignation of his office, 1-have no better method of
enabling the -House to' arrive at a decisive judgment; than
by referring to its terMs; and submitting them fairly to .a -
candid' consideration-. My Right Hon. Friend having void.
-agairiatiiae on-the night of the day when he had separated
from pia colleagues, with ad avowal of an intention to vote
with me, addressed a letter, at two o'clock in the morning,
to the Head of the GovernMent.—(The Right Hon. Gen-
tleinfin here read the latter of the 20th of May.)—Now, he
-would' ask any Member of that House, whether the expres..
sionrof that letter did not amount fairly to a tender of re-
signation.—(Hear, hear.)—The words certainly did not
convey a` tender of -a nature formal and unqualified ; but
when a Member' of a GOvernnient addressei the Head of
that Government, and loses no time in affording him an
opportunity of phcing his office in other hands--(Hear,
hear, hear)—and when he concludes by regretting the ne-
cessity of troubling him with such a communication--
(Hear)—would any public man, or any man acquainted
with the langnage or- habits of public men,- pot any other
construction upon such- a letter than that, it conveyed a
plain tender of resignation.—(Hear, hear.)—The Right
Hon. Gentleman has dealt most ingeniously in some parts of
his argirMents, and gathered together a number of minute
circumstances' Which he alleges to-have contributed to his
dissatisfaction: but let it be remembered that I had never
uttered a single expression which the Right. Hon. Gentleman
could be offended with ; that he had never heard a single
observation upon the subject from me; nor had .I the
slightest cause to understand that lie intended to separate
himself from the Government, although I undoubtedly did
hear that the fact of one voting against each other had
given rise to various rumours, in and out of the House, of
' disunion among the Members of the Government ; the
conclusion of this affair at East Retford hieing considered
the test of that disunion. My Noble Friend at the head
of the Government received this letter ,of resignation, it
was said, in a box in the usual way, and yet this was
-called the seine as a verbal communication. But could it
be really said that, it was so here ? If men wish to avoid
~the appearance of giving sanction to rumours of dissension
and disunion, is it not the most natural course for the -one
to wait upon the other, and state at once the reasons which
influenced any particular course of conduct?—(Hear.)--
But was it to be said that a communication of that kind
was to be considered the same as a letter, couched in such
terms as those I have read, and sent too at a time when the
-Right Hen. Gentleman and my Noble Friend were actually
living in the same street; and transacting public business

Duke? He was either bound to have regarded the letter
as it was—a tender of resignation—and have acted as be
had done; or lie must have said to his .Right Hon. Friend.
(Mr. HusVisson), "I will not; receive it as a tender of re-
signation. So greatly.- do- I feel 'the importance of your -
services--so essential are they to the . existence and
maintenance of Government, that I solicit you to remain."
--(Hear.) What construction would the world put upon
such an address as this from the Minister at the • head
of the Government ? What would be the general impres-
sion respecting it, if it were made when no dissatisfaction
had been expressed by the Noble Duke of the conduct of
his Right Hon. Friend, and no offence whatever was corn-
municited to him to have been taken by the part he had
acted. (Hear, hear !) My Right Hon. Friend 'complains
much of the letter addressed,to the Noble Duke being con: '
verted to public use, as it was marked "private and con-
fidential." Such. marks in communications on important
matters between Ministers of the Crown were customary ;•'
but the character of the communication, and not, the terms
in which it is conveyed, should 'determine the propriety
of makingn.publie use of it; 'and I contend that no in-
scription, that no indorsement ..whatever, could alter the
character and nature of the communication ; and one has
no right, by the terms "'private and confidential" to Ira-
pose secresy, unless the character of the communication
justifies it. And I contend, that there was no substantial
ground for restricting the liberty. of the Noble Duke to act
upon it as he did, if he had addressed a letter of resigns-
' tion to hini more formally. What was the nature of the
letter, and to what did it relate ? . It referred to a vote of
the House of Commons—to an appearance of disunion
among Ministers, the colleagues of both the Noble Duke
,and my Right Hon. Friend. Was this a letter on such
subjects of a nature to he 'Concealed from the Crown and
from the other Ministers ?. I submit that it was not, and
that my Noble Friend would not be authorised in such a
concealment. Again, I say, that the propriety of with-
holding the letter or' not depended' upon its nature and not
the terms of it.; and that the nature of this letter was not
such as could impose the obligation en my. Noble Friend of
not communicasing it to the King and his colleagues.—
(Hear.)--L=The Right Honourable Gentleman then read the'
letter of the Duke of Wellington' •in reply to the letter of
Mr. Muskisson on the 20th of May. In reading that pas-
sage of the letter in which the Duke of Wellington states,
that "hid I any alternative but either to solicit you to re-
main in office contrary to your sense of duty—
Mu was understood' to express dissent
from the latter part of , the 'sentence, as his letter did not
contain such a declaration.

Mr. Secretary PEEL continued.—lf such a meaning
were not conveyed in express terms, it was the obvious
inference from the declaration', that it was ".the only
means in my power of preventing injury to the King's
service." It may be, that 'my Noble Friend might not
have-conveyed his sentiments in the course' of these com-
munications with the nicely-balanced precision of expres-
sion .of those more accustomed to civil life.—Bat the
main object of consideration was, whether or not there
•was any intention of giving offence; and it is my convic-
tion that there was no such intention. Periphrastic
phrases might have been resorted to,. and various modes of
explanation might be suggested ; but what ought to be re-
garded was the character of the communications.—(Hear,
hear!)—Throughout them the Noble Duke reminded my
Right Hon. Friend to. bear in mind, that the desire to' re-
tire from the King's service originated with himself, and
not with the Noble Duke. His language was, to remern-
btr "it is your own act, and not mine."--(Hear, hear.)
My Right Honourable Friend states likewise as a ground'
for not withdrawing the letter which he addressed to my
Noble Friend, the apprehension he entertained of being
lowered by such a course of conduct. But if my Right
Honourable Friend would have any allowance made for
his feelings—if he would think' that his services would be
paralysed, and that his influence would also he low-
ered, was not something to be allowed for the feel-
ings of others ?—( Hear. )—Should it not also be considered
in what situation the Noble Duke at the head of the
Government would he placed,. had he pursued a different
course from that which he had done? Now his authority
would have been lowered if he had been obliged to solicit
the services of my Right Hon. Friend in the way 'ad-
verted to in his letter.—(Hear, hear.)—And' as an addi-
tional embarrassment to my Noble. Friend, it should be
considered that the situation was one in which he was
paced without any fault of his ; and how could he be
supposed to continue to act with a Colleague who had
tendered his resignation, and. yet be bound to conceal
that he had received such a- tender? My Right Hon.
Friend next adverted to the message communicated to him
through a Noble Friend (Lord D. ), and respecting this mes-
sage'be complained of a want of courtesy. It was com-
plained of that my Noble Friend (the Duke of Wellington)
'remarked that" HuSkisson was a man of sense." A great deal
depended in the manner of stating and of communicating
an observation of 'this kind.—(llear. )—The mere state-
ment that "Huskisson was a man of sense and knew how
to act," could suggest nothing else than that Mr. Huskis-
son was a person of that political knowledge and experi-
ence, that he would pursue a proper and befitting course.
But was the Noble Duke bound to•point out any course to
my Right Hon. Friend? On the other hand, consider the
difficulty that presented itself to my Noble Friend in doing'
sa. Whatever course he might point out would carry with
it the appearance of dictation, arid on this account it was
natural, in the position in which. he was placed, that he•
should abstain from proposing any alternative of conduct
to my Right Hon. Friend. But with respect to the mes-
sage thus complained of; I have an impression on my mind.
that, in the conversation which I had with• Lord Dudley
on the subject, he added to. the remark—" Huskisson is a
man of sense, and he knows that I will not require any re-
paration inconsistent with' his personal honour." Either
that expression or one similar to it was used by the Noble
Duke; the effect of which, as I collected from my Noble
Friend (Lord Dudley) was, that the Noble Duke would not
require any thing which " would, in the slightest degree,
tend to lower him."—(Hear.)-.--And again, with respect
to the letter which my Right Hon.. Friend complains of
having been returned to him unopened, the circumstances
under which it was so returned are these:—The Noble
Duke had mentioned half-past two' on Monday as the last
hour for receiving the answer of my Right Hon. Friend.—
No answer bad arrived up to that hour ; in an interview
whiCh the Noble Duke had with the King, the successor
of my Right Hon. Friend was proposed. Under these
circumstances, my Noble Friend said; " that he returned
the letter, as he did nit think it fair in him to open the
letter of Mr. Huskisson, as he did not know that an inter-
view had taken place, and that his successor had been
named at that interview." With this ignorance on the
part of my Right lion. 'Friend, the Noble Duke did not
deem, it just in him to make himself acquainted with the
contents of the letter addressed to him.—(Hear, hear,
hear.') This is the explanation of the letter being returned
unopened to my Right Honourable Friend, and I am sure
the House will appreciate the. motives which prompted my
Noble Friend tinder the circumstances under which he re-
turned it. 'I own I cannot but regret that my Right Hon.
' Friend did not, upon mature and subsequent deliberation,
consider it a befitting course for him to 'pursue, to with-
drew his original letter.• I cannot but consider that a let-
ter written under such circumstances might with propriety
be recalled; and I regret that out of such a transaction
should arise so 'serious a misequence as the withdrawal of
my Right Hon. Friend's participation in the King's Coun-
cils. Allusions have been made to some want of confidence,
to a casual e:ror having been taken advantage of, as a pre-
'text far depriving my Right Hon. Friend-of the place that
lie held in the King's service.' Whatever may. he the im-
pressions entertaind in any quarter upon this subject by
others, I can only declare for myself, that if I had not a
strong conviction that uo such want of confidence did pre-'
vail, and had I not further the conviction that injustice
was not done to my, Right Hon. Friend, .I would not have
remained a Minister of the Crown.--(Hear, hear.)—l am
aware, Sir, that amidst the many charges and insinuations
which have been made against public men and public mea-
sures on both sides of the House, it has been stated, that
unless such a course of policy was adopted, certain Aristo-
cratic influences threatened to make the adoption of a certain
course of policy and the exclusion of certain persons the
condition of their support of Government.—(Hear, bear.)
In answer to such an insinuation, I say, that I know not of
any such exclusion being proposed as the means of purchas-
ing such support ; and sure I am that if such a proposal did
come, it would be repelled with the scorn that it 'deserved.
(Hear, heat.)—I do not believe that this Government can
be carried on by a support dependant on the exclusion of
any set of men from places of power:---(Hear.)—'-That prin-
ciple I have pursued hitherto, and will continue to pursue
in Inr political course. I stated at an early period of this
Session that, in. my opinion, extreme principles of Govern-
ment would not answer for the regulation and direction of
the complicated interests of this country. Whether you
call it.a compromising course or a conciliatory one—whe •
ther a wise or an impolitic mule of policy, sure I am you
cannot reconcile and promote the various interests of this
Empire by doing injustice to others—by excluding any
class of men from the fair opportunities of giving their
service and support to the Government of the country.—
(Hear, hear.)—l adopt and acknowledge no invariable
standard of principles and opiniotri.' I profess• attachment
and adherence to no political nick names of any kind. I
I will not be bound by,preconceived notions or rules of coo-
-1 duct—he they called what they may. I neither profess ri-
gidly to adhere to Mr. Canning's principles nor to Lord Li-
verpool'i'principles-s-indeed I do not precisely understand

within three or four doors of each other inbort/sing-street,

before they were called upon to attend their duties in this
House ? Was it not even possible for my Right lion. Friend
to have written a note to the Noble' Duke, requesting him
to name a time when he might have an opportunity of call-
ing and conversing -upon-the -subject which seemed to re-
quire explanation.—(Hear, hear.)—Every one who -knew
any think nf public life or of public men, met be satisfied
that if' the object of the parties be relief from any personal
embarrassment, that object is ahtays beet effected by per-
sonal communication's. • With respect to tenders of resig-
nation from those who form the Government of -the country,
I cannot but think that they. ought to be very sparingly
dealt with.—(Hear.)--I think that, as mankind are con-
stituted, it is impassible to find any body eieLtwelve or
thirteen men, among whom free discusaion*iermitted,
who may not have many differences of opinion. It is Ob-
vious that these differences of opinion may be either alteied
and modified by concession, or by a gradual approxima-
tion of the one party and the other to a common point. I
consider also, that provided there be not a-great question
of principle involved, it is perfectly fair and honourable in
the 'Members td a Government to act in conjunction, with,
and to support the views of the majority of that Government,
although these may not be perfectly accordant with their
plans at the moment, and retaining their offices While
they support the measure which they do not exactly.oP-
prove.—(He.ar, hear, bear.)—lf principles Were dis..
hie policy in any ma-
terial an unfortunate crisis
approved of
was count of hyocoAulninisrteacrt—ed_ifi_f
had arisen which called on him to dissent from his col-
leagues—then, indeed, I admit that he is at liberty to re-
tire—but this liberty, I do think,
is one that ought to be
sparingly exercised ; and for this reason, that- it is calm.
UM to lead to great embarrassment, and to relieve the re-
tiring Minister from a responsibility that properly belongs
to him—and that is not very fairly often imposed upon
another.—(Hear, hear.) When the intelligence' of the
tender of the resignation of my Right lion. Friend was
made known to me, I own I received it with surprise, espe-
cially when I considered it in relation to the occasion in
which it originated. The first letter was one, according
to the admission of my Right Hon. Friend himself, hatily,
—inconsiderately—and I must say, --in my opinion, un-
wisely written and addressed to the Noble Duke. It was
calculated, though I most sincerely .believe it was not in-
tended by my Right Hon. Friend, to create great mbar-
iasameut ; but what course was left open to the Noble

the meaning of the terms—but I shall reserve to myself
the privilege and the right of examining and deciding each
rase that comes befoie me on its own merits—(bear)—
without tying myself down to any set of peculiar prin-
ciples. The present change of Members of the Govern-
ment was not occasioned by any differences of opirkion on
important points of policy, or measures as to the conduct
of Government. It was most improbable to suppose that
any disposition could exist in the Head of the Administra-

tion that his Government should be broken up at this
period of the Sessiov, before the supplies of the year were
voted. What view—what object could there be for such
a disarrangement and embarrassment, at such a moment?

—The Right Hon. Gentleman proceeded to eulogize the
spirit of moderation and firmness which characterized the
NobleDuke' at the head of the Government, and his desire .
'to establish a stable Government; and proceeded :—I know
the difficulties of our present situation; I will not disguise
from myself and from the House that I am aware of it ;
but I approach it with a feeling, though free from pre-
sumptuous confidence, yet not partaking of the timidity
of despair.—(Cheers.)—Placed in that situation, I can
only say that my Sovereign shall have my best s e;vicea so
long as his Majesty is pleased. to command them. Regard-
less of the calumnies to which public men on all aids* of the
House are subjected, I will give, to the last hour, every
energy I possess to persevere in that course which I have
hitherto pursued, so. long as my Sovereign shall consider
my maintenance of it worthy of, his coafidence.—(Loud
cheers.)
Lord PALMERSTON—Sir, I feel that I owe it as a
duty to myself and to the House to explain such parts of the
transactions adverted to in the speeches of my Right Hon.
Friends (Mr. reel and Mr. Huskissen), as far.as was con-
nected with them, and as far as they have relation to the
grouuds that led to my retirement from office. With re-
spect to the Borough of East Retford—a subject into which
my Right lion. Friend (Mr. Peel) has gone-a considera-
ble 'length, my Right Hon. 'Friend will confirm me in the
statement that I very early acquainted him of the prefo,
thee 44at I entertained for transferring forfeited franchisee.
to large manufacturing towns rather than to the Hundred.
However; I considered that as in the case recently brought
before Parliament, there were the franchises of two °,
Boroughs) Penryn and East Retford, to be, disposed of,
considered it a reasonable proposal, that one of them, Pen-
ryn, should be transferred fo a•largemanufacturing town,
Birmingham, for instance, and that the 'other Might be
thrown' into the Hundred. This was in the case of two
Boroughs being to be disfranchised ;- but I never concealed
from my Right Hon. Friend, that in the event of. there
being only one Borough, I should prefer the transfer of
that on4' to a manufacturing toWn ; otherviise the Mouse
of Commons would be acting on a rule . Which my
Right Honourable Friend (Mr. Peel) himself deprecated;
namely,' that there should be a settled precedent for
transferring a forfeited franchise 'either to a menu-
' facturing or agricultural district. This rule, it appeared
to me, would be acted upOn; if after having extended the
forfeited franchise to the adjacent hundred in the recent
cases of Shoreham, Cricklade, and Ailesbury, an, addi-
tional instance should be afforded of disposing of a new
disfranchised borough in a similar way.—(Hear, heat )---
It certainly was the impression on the minds of these pre.:,,
sent in the Cabinet on the previous morning that there,
was an understanding that it was an open question, on
which eventually every man was at liberty to vote accord-
ing to his opinion., It is true that that implied liberty
was perhaps more especially applicable to some subsequent
stage of the 'Bill. But after what passed on the night of
the debate, my Right Hon. Friend had no alternative but
to vote as he did. • He' had no option ; he told me at the
time that he had none ; and I entirely agreed with him
in the view which he took of the subject. Sir, I have
stated this in order to relieve my Right Hon. Friend from
the imputation which'may be thrown upon him', that the
course which he took on the qtiestion was adopted by him
in order to embarrass his Majesty's Government ; or that
it was an unfair abandonment of my Right Hon. Friend
the Secretary of State for the Nome Department. Should
such an imputation he cast upon my Right Hon. Friend,
come from what quarter it may, it is wholly unfounded. For
myself, I'was prepared ,fo vote as my Bt. Hen. Friend voted.
Even if circumstances had permitted the delay of that vote
until a- subseqent stage of the measure, the same conse-
quences would have taken place, only that in that case there
would have been an opportunity for intermediate explana.,
tion. But, Sir, the great objection urged to my Right
Hon. Friend's conduct has been placed, not on the vote
which he gave on the East Retford Bill, but on the letter
which he wrote to the.NOble Duke:at the head of his Ma-
jesty's Government, which letter, it is'alleged, contained a
formal resignation of his office ; and it has been contended
that having once written such a letter to the Noble Duke,
his Grace had
,no option but to submit the letter to his Ma.
jesty: Sir, in the first place, my Right Hon. Friend has
stated that the letter in question was'Written at a veil, late
hour, when he was labouring under great physical ex-
haustion, as well as strong mental 'excitement. My' Right
Hon. Friend has stated, that if he had postponed-writing
the letter until the next morning, he should probably have
been able to express himself with more coolness and dis-
tinctness.' My Right Hon. Friend has also said, that he
does not complain hf the sense in which the Noble DOke at
the head- of his Majesty's Government ilnderitood his
letter when his Grace first received it. Rut this, Sir,

I mnat declare, that let that letter hire been stiSceptible of
what meaning it might, I think tbat;taking into'donsielera-
tion all the circumstances finder kvhich that letter was sent

pared with his colleagues; because it must generally be
supposed that he would not withdraw such a tender unless
a concession had been mei,:
But that general principle is nor al-21,...,4 to this particu-
lar case. My Right Hon. Friend did not say to the Noble
Duke, " unless you do .so and so, I .will nerVcontinue a
Member of your Government." What my . Right Hon.
Friend said, was, " I have been compelled, whether rightly
or not, to vote in such a manner. I had no -choice. It
is for you,, as the Head of the Government, to say whether
by so doing I have disqualified myself for continuing a
Member of your Government. If you think that I have,
and if. you advise the King, to dispense with my services,
I shall not complain that you have treated me harshly."--..
So far, therefore, was my Right Hon. Friend from calling
.on, his Majesty's Government for any concession, that the
fair construction on his letter is that it was a concession on
his part to the Noble Duke at the head of his Majesty's
Government. Sir, I know not what may be the-opinions
and- feelings of others.; but with respect to myielf, the
whole. course of these transactions,, according to' the hest
judgment that I was able to form of them, proved . to me
.that from the beginning to the end there was noalesire to 1
retain my Right Hon. Friend in the Cabinet, but that
there was a very great desire to get him out .of it.—
(Hear, hear, bear.)—That being the impression made
upon my mind, it came to be a question with me
what course I should myself take on the occasion.—
I confors, Sir, my principal reason for joining my late col-
leagues was the confidence which I reposed- in my ?tight
Hen. Friend. There are certain general principles re-
specting which J entertain a strong and decided opinion.
The great part of those principles are the principles
steadily maintained by my Right Hon. Friend. I felt,
therefore, that as long as my Right Hon, Friend remained
a Member of his Majesty's Government,. I should have a
s.curity against being placed in the,ernbarrassing situation
of having singly to withdraw from his Majesty's Councils,
in consequence of not being able to give any assent to mea-
sures of which I could not approve. I -.Pad not the pre-
sumption to suppose ,that-1 could Myself giie effect to any
particular system ; but while my Right Hon. Friend was
in the Cabinet I knew I was safe. Such being the ground
on which I joined bia-INlajesty's GM/eminent, the retire-
ment of my Right Hon. Friend, proceed from what cause
it might, naturally forced upon me the consideration whe-
ther, with the views which 1 have described, I could con-
tinue to belong to that Government.- The circumstances
attending the removal of my Right Hon. Friend afforded-
such strong and unequivocal indication of feelings and im •
premions in the Cabinet, different horn those which I bad
believt;sl 'to exist, that I could not have reconciled it to my
mind, even if I bad had no share in the vote in question, to
continue in the Cabinet after my Right Hon. Friend had
quitted it.—(Hear, hear.)—Sir, I must say, that there is
a striking contrast between the mariner in which my
Right Hon. Friend has been recently treated, and the man-
ner in. which he was treated in January.—(Hear, hear. )
In January, no indisposition whatever was shown towards
him. In January his motives suffered no .misunderstand-
ing. On this recent occasion his explanations were un-
noticed ; hie own declaratioo of the sense in which he in-
tended his expressions to be understood was unavailing. It
was impossible to observe this marked slight without feel-
ing that so great a shange must proceed from some cause
or other. It was impossible for me not to feel that that
cause was a diminished confidence in my Right Hon.
Friend. Nor was that impression mine alone. I appeal
to those who have opportunities of knowing what is pas-
sing in this great town. It was the subject of conversa-
tion in every street. A certain description of persons were
running about in extacies at what had taken place. The
language of the friends and supporters of the remaining
Members of his Majesty's Government was unequivocal'
and exulting. In mentioning the retirement of my Right
Hon Friend, they talked with delight of " the cleansing of
the Augean Stable ;" of "turning out of his Majesty's Go-
vernment one who had been unfortunately admitted its a
moment of liberality, and who might have remained in it
if he had manifested any docility."—(Hear.) From all
these things, Sir, it is clear that the impression upon my
mind of the altered disposition of his Majesty's Government
was not confined to' myself, but that it extended to
those who by no means thought the alteration discredita-
ble. Rut, Sir, we are told that the principles of his Ma-
jesty's Government are to undergo no change. I am ex-
tremely glad to hear it. Should the promise be fulfilled
the result will be most beneficial ; for the principles of the
measures of Government for some years past have mainly
conduced to advance the most important interests of the
country, considered with reference to her internal welfare,
and to raise her in the estimation of all Europe.—(Hear,
hear, hear.) This country; under the Administration of
which -my Right Hon. Friend formed a part, 'has been
raised to a proud pre-eminence which she never.before
attained. She' has not attained it by any invasion of the
rights of other countries. She bas attained it by the con-
fidence inspired by the just moderation of her Councils,
and by that liberality of principle which has secured her
the respect of all eivilise.l nations; and has placed her in
a situation of greater dignity even than that to which the
Conqueror at the head of the Government of France ever
arrived. It is said the course which we have thus so happily
pursued is to remain unchanged. I trust it will. I confess,
however, that there are prognostics, that there are symp-
toms, which inspire me with apprehension on the subject.
There are omens abroad of evil import- There are signs
of malignant influence. There are voices of inauspicious
tone and character. I trust that all these indications may
be falsified by the event. I trust that all these omens, these
signs, these voices may pass away harmlessly. I trust
that his Majesty's Government will not repose their claims
to the confidence of the people on giving " one cheer more"
—(loud cries of hear, hear, hear)—to the ascendancy of
this or that faction in the State. I trust that his Maje...y's

and received, there was an extraordinary degree of precipi-
tation on the part of his Grace in acting upon that letter,
and determining to submit it to his Majesty, without hav-
ing taken a single step, directly or indirectly, to ascertain
the spirit in which the letter was conceivetl.-a-(Hear, hear,
hear.)—lt may be said that when the Head of a Govern-
ment receives from a Member of that Government a letter
which he understands as containing ' a resignation of his
official station,• it is his duty to communicate such letter
without delay to his Royal Master. But, Sir, I deny that
this letter was of that character. I maintain that it was a
letter perfectly capableof a satisfactory explanation. In fact
my Right Hon. Friend did on'Tuesday twice offer an ex-
planation to the Noble Duke—ence by my Noble Friend,
at that time Secretary of State for Forelgn'Affairs, and
again by myself. I did naknoir what bad occurred until
four o'clock- on Ttiesday; when- my Right Him. Friend
sent for me, and communicated it to me. I immediately
went in search of the Noble Duke, in order to describe
the transaction, and to state the circumstances which
had led to the course pursued by myself as Well as by
my Right Non. Friend ; and also to explain the sense in
which I understood my Right Hon. Friend to have Written
his letter. After a conversation with his Grace of consi-
derabl length, ! returned to may Right Hon. Friend, and
told him that his letter had been understood by the Noble
Duke in a sense very different from that which he intend-
ed ; and I suggested to him the expediency of giving an
explanation in writing. That explanation my Right Hon.
Friend accordingly gave. On the following day my Right
Hon: Friend repeated lie explanation, detailing minutely
the sense in which he wished his original letter to be un-
derstood. What was the consequence? On Thursday
my Right Hon. Friend received from the Noble Duke the
letter just read to the Hottie=a letter passing wholly by
all the explanations which my Right Hon. Friend had
offered, both verbally and in writing, and fixing my Right
Hon. Friend's first letter with a meaning be had repeatedly
declared was not that which be intended to convey.
Sir, when I saw the Noble Duke's letter, I felt that his
having left all my Right Hon. Friend's explanations es-
tirely unnoticed—having, instead of stating to my Eight
Hon, Friend, " Your explanation is not sufficient here,
there is a deficiency there ;"---when I found that instead of
giving my Right Hon. Ft lend an'Opportunity of filling up
any gap that might be supposed toexist in my Right Hon.
Friend's statements, the Noble Duke passed by all these
matters, and reverted to the original letter alone, I became
completely convinced that no further communication •on
the subject could be of the slightest service. That con-
viction I communicated to my Right Hon. Friend; and
the impression upon my mind being, that the removal of
my Right Hou. Friend from his Majesty's Government,
under all the circumstances by which it had been attended,
would render it advisable for me to withdraw also, I re-
quested an Hon. Friend of mine to postpone for ins, until
after the holidays, a notice of motion which I had given
in this House. Sir, I have stated these things to show
that there existed on the one hand the greatest possible
avidity to take advantage of my Right !Jon. Friend's first
letter, pin
nancidpotositpn
ivie him downresignation tofsf
itihtisaoffilectete:
aunedcotioitaaining a
t there
existed on the other hand no disposition whatever to re-
ceive any of the explanations which my Right Hon.
his
Sovereign,
e them,reign,
but from access to that Sovereign he was debarred. Ido
be Friend was ready and desirous to make. When my Right
Hon. Friend found that his explanations were net received
ornotimd
expressed
in
athweiyatroteerxptolawinhhicishhe
conductba to daddressed
not mean to say that the head of a Government has not a
right to say to the Sovereign, when any difference arises
among the Members of a Cabinet, that difference is best con-
sidered in the Cabinet itself; but I maintain that it was due
to my Right Hon. Friend to give him some clue by which
he might have been enabled to discover what it was that
was required of him. Sir, I perfectly agree with my
Right Hon. Friend, the Secretary of State for the Home
Department, that if in the event of any difference in the
Cabinet, one of the Members of that Cabinet tenders his
resignation, which tender he is afterwards allowed tofith-
draw, he is placed in a situation of great advantage as som-

Government will not league themselves with• the as;erters

lingtnn beyond the circle of three persons, of whom his
Majesty was one, unless. the Duke himself had cominve
nicated it.
Mr. BROUGHAM was not disposed to take a part in
the very extraordinary occasion which had given rise to the
Hon. Gentleman,
opposite.tlema That
n,and to' the
speech
ht explanations
the
Right of
Hoen
Secretary
which was of the most importance to the House and to the
country was, the character and intentions of the Govern-
ment formed after the resignations. '1 hat this Government
was in many essential particulars, both with respect to the
individuals composing it, aid, if'he might so speak, with
respect to its constructing materials, different from that
which had preceded it; no man could poesibly'entertain a
doubt. On this subject, however, he abstained from
making any observations. He was willing to wait and
watch the proceedings of the Government; but finding
that vigilance was necessary at the beginning of the -See.
siert, he could not say that it-was less necessary now.
What the measures of the new Administration might be, it
became not him, nor any body preitent to say; but he cer-
tainly derived great comfort from two pledges,'one of which
had been given that night, and the other existed' in the
character of the Noble Duke at the head of the Govern-
ment. Considering the kind of. Government foimed, and
the difficulties in which they were placed, he did think
that there was something like a pledge, that the Dake, as
a man of sense and prudence, would bring forward those
tneasures'of retrenchment which would satisfy England,
and that system of conciliation which would pacify IrelAnd.
He could conceive no other possible ground on which the
Duke of Wellington could claim the support of Parliament.
For this the character of the Noble Duke was a security ;
and another pledge, to the same effect, was the continuance
of the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Peel) as a Member of
the Administration. He took the meaning of the last fact
to be, that no change of measures whatever- would, be
effected and none attempted, however it might be desi-
iterated by one, or suggested by another, in Parliament or
out of doors, either in the domestic or foreign policy of the
country. He trusted that no deviation whatever would he
thought of from those sound, enlightened and liberal prin-
ciples which had recently. obtained from all men of sense
and discernment, who had the interest of their country at
heart, not only their support, but almost their admiration.
Mir. PEEL said that the separation from his Right Hen.
Friend had not arisn kohl any difference of "Opinionns to.
the general course which GovernMent ought to pursue.
He bad always acted upon a liberal conviction, and not
front any comprising desire to conciliate the support of
others. Nothing, in his estimation, could be so low as to
bind yourself to future proCeedings; but he could say that
the Administration did not contemplate any change, in either
the foreign or domestic, policy of the country.—(Hear.)
Mr. CALVERT spoke a few sentences; inaudible in the
Gallery. We understood the Hon. Member to move the
Order of the Day for the House resolving itself into a Com-
mittee of the whole House upon the Easniftetford Dis-
franchisement Bill. The House resolved itself into the
CoMmittee, Mr. Gordon in the Chair. The adjourned
question was, "And whereas such bribery and corruption
is likely to continue to be practised in the said borough in
future, unless some. means are taken to prevent the same ;
in order, therefore, to prevent such unlawful practices for
theTuture, and that such borough may be duly represented
in Parliament, &c." The amendment of Mr. Huskisson
was—thit all the words after the word " future" he
left out.'
Mr. 'I ENNYSON asked the Hon. Member for Liver-
pool to which of the words " future," his Amendment
applied?
Mr. HUSKISSON said that, it was not consistent with
the practice of Parliament, nor with the principles of jus-
tice, that the borough should be entirely disfranchised.—
The circumstance that Penryn was in Cornwall was not
sufficient to justify the House in pursuing such a course,
nor in visiting the Borough with such a sentence, in prefe-
rence to passing it upon East Retford, which had beers
proved much more corrupt. No difficulty of principle ex-
isted in the taseof East Retford. In this latter borough
not only a great loOdy of voters had been proved corrupt,
hut the returning officers, the town•clerk and all, had been
guilty of taking bribes. It had keen argued that Cornwall
was already full of voters ; and if the right of Penryn were
extended to the Hundred, that Hundred was full of. persons&
previously possessed of the franchise for voting for Mem-
hers!of Parliament. But this did not apply so strongly to
East Retford; for there it was proposed to give the Hun-
dred a double vote. The House had often extended the
right of voting to a hundred which had previously posses-
sed a franchise. It was argued that the Hundred to which
he.proposed to extend the frar.c'tise of Penryn contained
the borough towns of Helstone and Falmouth; but hart
not the House extended the franchise of Shoreham to the
Hundred, which contained two or three close boroughs?—
The franchise of Cricklade bad been thrown into a hun-
dred containing Wooton-Basset and Malmesbury. In these
precedents there were more boroughs than in the hundred
to which he would extend the franchise Of Penryn. In
Wiltshire were 34, and in Cornwall 42 ; and if they threw
the franchiie of Penryn into the Hundred, the count..-
seethe
isviobnyd,reldiyofthßrasow,eitoiagwt,hethferyanarhboi
would still retain the same number of voters. He did not
oseldonif Eaka.estaßneewtfocrodmiintyn:
and ifthey did extend the franchise, the voters should vote
for the Hundred, and not for the county of Nottingham.—
He would prefer the transferring of the franchise of Fitt
Retford to tine of the Ridings of Yorkshire.
Mr. C. WOOD maintained, that the Right Lion. the
Secretary of State had refused to legislate upon principle,
but had preferred, as a compromise, to give the franchise
of East Retford to the Hundred of Bassetlaw, that of
Penryn being transferred to some commercial town. But
subsequent proceedings had shewn that the franchise of
Penryn was not to be transferred as the House originally

intended, to Manchester, and the ra.estood us if the fran.

_ . .
of arbitrary principles. I trust that his Majesty's Govern- chise of . Penryo was to go to the adjoining Hundred. It
meat will found their claim to the approbation of the people would therefore be Only consistent in the Right Hon. Gen-
by maintaining, not in this country alone, but wherever denten to vote for the franchise:of East Retford being trans.
their measures may extend, the ascendancy of liberal, wise, ferred to some manufacturing or commercial town. Of
just, and enlightened principles.—(Hear, hear, hear.) precedents of disfranchising boroughs, in six cases the ad-
Mr. HIJSKISSON wished to explain one or two points vantage had been given to the agricultural interests. The
on which he was apprehensive that a misunderstanding Right Hon. Secretary of State had appeared as if he was
might go forth. His Right Hors. Friend, the Secretary of not disposed to play a fair game ; for he had sent the
State for the Home Department, had been quite correct in weaker case to the commercial town—that which wtss
saying, that when he (Mr. Huskisson) came down to the stronger to the hundred. He denied that any argument.
House on the occasion in question, it. was his intention to could be founded upon an average of Members to different
vote with his Right Hon. Friend. But bad nothing oc- counties; and if there could, Nottingham sent a greats r
curred in the course of the proceedings to change that de- number of Representatives to Parliament than the county
termination? Had he (Mr. Huskisson) not in his speech of Warwick. He was not for giving any further adVar,-
on that question, attempted to shew that the House was tage to the agricultural interests; for in this disfranchise..
called upon to determine on an entirely new proposition ? went of boroughs, they had already had More than their
It was on that ground that he had• proposed an adjourn- share. The agricultural interest was already amply re-
went. He had a right to assume on that occasion that presented in that House. Extending the franchises of bo-
they had no right to assume what bad been done in the roughs to the adjoining Hundreds was contrary to the old
House of Lords, until they had official and formal know- and best practice of the Constitution ; for the voters of
ledge
_ ,
of it. The pledge which he had given, on the these Hundreds were not constituents of either Knights.
'2lst March lie had given inadvertently; but, road- Citizens, or Burgesses, but were a mere mongrel breed.
vertently or. not, having given it, he was bound to re- He should object to the extension of the franchise of East.
deem it. He begged not to be understood as having thrown Retford to the Hundred.
the slightest imputation on his Right Hon. Friend's con- Mr. STANLEY wished to impress upon the House,
duct towards him. He had never experienced any thing that whatever explanations had taken place that night,
from his Right Hon. Friend but the greatest candour ; and they'had no reference to the Question of East Retard ;
ho was the last person in the world who would wish to do but they referred to the Speaker's leaving the Chair, and
any thing that might embarrass his Right Hon. Friend, or had left the Question upon which the Committee were
place him in a painful predicament. The expression that about to decide free from all political dissensions and party
he was " a man of sense and of the world," had been feelings. Many might have thought it a point of political
misunderstood. It was comprehended in a message com- duty to have given a vote contrary to that which they
municatedao 'him by his Noble Friend, then Secretary of might give, now that the Question was left free and. inde-
State for Foreign Affairs, front the Noble Duke at the pendent of all political considerations. The Question of
head of his Majesty's Government. That Noble Duke transferring the forfeited franchise of East Retford, might
had also said that he did not wish him to do any thing in- now be decided without any reference to the political ques.
i consistent with his personal honour. Ile (Mr. Husks - tions which had preceded it, or w
soa) was the last person in the world to suppole that his to be' consequent.—He spoke from the evidence before thin
Grace could have any such wish ; for no man Gould afford House, from which it appearedthat
to be so liberal in matters of personal honour as he who voters in East Retford guiltless of bribery. Were they
had acquired so much. The Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. then, to continue to that great body of delinquent voters
Huskisson) here made some statements with respect to the the same right which they possessed at present? Ow' of
dates of some of the recent transactions, which we were the witnesses had, to his shame, owned at their hat that he
hich
there tbe
only eleven
mig
werell
unable to collect. He received on Monday morning no himself had received a bribe at an election.— (Hear. )-.....
such'communieition as had been stated. He did not sup- 'The Hon. Gentleman, after some further observations, eon-
pose that the Duke of Wellington hail returned hie letter eluded by stating, that he should vote for the motion of the
unopened in any .uncourteous manner, but because he had Right Hon. Gentleman, which
went to omit the transfer
received it after a period in which he (the Duke) ' under- I to the Hundred, leaving it
open to the future decision of
stood that he (Mr. Huakisson) was upraised that it was i thesHouse whether it should be given to some large menu-
ueneces.cutry for the Duke to make any such communica- facturing town, or tusome agricultural district.
tion. But as he had not known that fact, and had found 1 Mr. GEORGE BANKES supported the amendment of
the letter returned (on the supposition that he did know it), ; the Hon. Member for Hertfordshire, as the more mild and
he naturally wished to ascertain the course he ought to i lenient cottrse.
pursue. It was returned before the Duke bad taken his i Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN supported the origi r 1
Majesty's commands with respect to a successor. His Right motion.
Hon. Friend had argued all along upon a different basis; ; Mr. F. LEWIS supported the Amendment.
'and. he had to complain that his Right Hon. Friend had Mr. N. CALVERT said a few words, across the tabls,
assumed that he had promulgated the contents of a letter, which wererendered inaudible from thecries of " Question,"
marked " private and confidential," to the newspapers, and The House then divided, when there appeared—
to the other channels of publicity, so well known in the For the original Resolution 249
metropolis. He would ask his Right Hon. Friend if this For Mr. Huskiss9n's Amendment 152
Were consistent with his character? He would ask him if Majority —B7
there had nut been other transactions, in former cases, con- On our return to the Gallery, we found
nected with his resignation of office, and of which he had Mr. Secretary PEEL stating, that he had thought one
made no improper publication ; or if he had ever divulged of the proposals of the Honourable Member opposite wr s
those matters connected with Government which in their to agree in effecting a compromise, by admitting one of the
nature ought to be kept secret ? He could only say, Abet Boroughs to retain its franchise, white the other was given
the particular transaction he alluded to was so little known, to a large town. By that plan his course would be go-
was so little the subject of the impression to which his yenned. If the House of Lords should throw the franchi,e
Right Hon. Friend referred, that it was not until two days of Penryn into the neighbouring Hundreds, lie, as an irdi-
after its occurrence that any inkling or intimation of it ap- vidual, should consider himself hound by his pledge, , isi
peared in the newspapers,' or was known in the town, would certainly redeetn it, by throwing the team:hew s, ;i s
where gossip was so common. No man bai previously II .rough of East Retford into the hands of the haliabitahti
heard of the communication made to the Duke of Wet- of a large town. He had no insuperable objection to

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admit one of the great towns to the enjoyment of this frau-
'Chin, and ahead Ewe his vote to the transfer of the elective
franchise from East Retfoid in that Manner, if Penryn
should be opened to the agricultural interest. But if the
House.of Ldrdiadop44.a'different course, then, seeing that
in that -case his vote woo!d go to deprive a county now
o*ly possessed of eight Memhera of two of its Members, and
to reduce them to the number of six, he should certainly
. not feel himself bound to give that vote. He proposed,
-theiefore;that the • further consideration of this subject
slaOuld be-postponed till tlie:determination of the llouse of
horde waS.-kncrwn; but in the meantime he recommended
'Ma lion. Friend, the lttember for Hertfordshire, to go on
with his part of the Bill, and get it printed with his
Amendment, leaving_ it to the House ultimately to adopt
or reject that •Amendment, according to the manner in
which the House-of Lords thought fit to treat the Borough
of Penryn. • •
.Mr. TENNYSON !objected to that recommendation,
that if the Bill should now be printed with that amend-
ment, the House would afterwards be considered to have
taken an irretrievable step. He would rather lose the
.Bill altogether than let the franchise be extended to the
HO-Eldred:

Mr. Secretary PEEL considered it established that this
Borough had been guilty of long-continued and general
corruption; and did not think it consistent with the dig-
nity of Parliament to pass over the transaction without
notice. He was convinced that there had been notorious
and general corruption,• such as to justify him in punishing
the Borough. Ile would go further. He would consent
to disfranchise every individual member of that Borough
proved to have been guilty of corruption. He would in
. that respect go beyond the cases of. Cricklade and Ayles-
bury, and adopt the precedent furnished by the Borough of
Shoreham. In doing so, there certainly might be a. ques-
tion as to whether that punishment could be visited on
those who had admitted their corruption at the Bar of that
House; since those individuals had been promised indem-
nity. Upoe that premise, it might be a question whether
the indernity was an indemnity from penal consequences
only, or from consequences. of iiny other kind. He had
thus clearly stated his opininn,fpnd the course he should
pursue, if the alternative. he bad referred to should be pre-
sented to him.
Mr. TENNYSON and Mr. PEEL mutually explained
respecting the difficulties in which the House would in-
volve themselves; by printing the Bill in the manner di-
rected by the Right Hon. Gentleman.
Mr. NICHOLSON CALVERT was understood to say
there would be no difficulties of the kind apprehended by
the Hon. Member for 13lechingley, since he would, in the
event anticipated by Mr. Peel, withdraw the Resolution
now adopted.
Lord HOWICK said a few words, inaudible in tie
Gallery.
Mr. HORHOUSP. thought it quite unnecessary to wait
for the decision of the House; of the nature of which they
Must all be well aware. They would indeed he little
better than a paradise of fools, if they waited for a decision,
when they already knew what that decision would be.
He-for one much regretted that the Right Hon. Gentle-
man, the Secretary for the Home Department, had not
made the other night the same declaration which he
'had-just 'stated to the House. It would have saved a
World of eiribariteinient elsewhere, and -have avoided
she necessity for much of what had passed to-night. With
repeat to himself, he must take the liberty of saying, as'on
.a previous occasion, that if the borough was to he disfran-
chised only to give its elective rights so the Hundred, he
.should prefer letting the borough return to its old corrup-
tion. He did not agree with the Right Hon. Gentleman,
that the franchise was to he transferred merely for the seke
of punishing the voters ; bethought the object ought to' be
to improve the representation. lha transfer of the fran-
chise to a large town was a fair and iistelligible mode-of
wffectiog that object, and should have his support
The Right Honourable Gentleman must 'know what
would be the 'determination of the House of Lords,
whom they issuld not get to adopt an opinion or sug-
gestion of theirs, They had got into some confusion
from the amendment of the Hon. Member for Hertford-
shire, and he should advice the Hon. Member for Blechs
Vither to withdraw the Bill than to consent to the
franchise going to the Hundreds, where there would not be
less corruption than in the Borough itself, The Bill, in-
te.eed seemed fatal in ever}, respect ; it hid sweet one go-
wernmollt, and if persevered in, for aught tiseylsnew, might
upset another ; and yet, after all these evils—(a .1410):—
the object of the proposer might he defeated.
Lord RATICLIFFE and Mr, ROSS said a few words,
but ti.e confusion which had prevailed since the 'division
was now so much increased, as to render t.bem utterly in-
audible. Strangers were ordered to withdraw, and as we
left the gallery,
..Mr. TENNYSON was heard to declare, that the Hoyle
en;gbs divide to all eternity before he would submit to have
his objet: defeated.
The gaue,cv was then cleared, but no division took place.
Dosing our ab,scuce, a long discussion was understood to
have taken place. On our return, we found
Mr. STANLEY stat:og it as his opinion, that the Han.
and Right Hon. Gentlemen were differing only about a
q tiestion . of. punctilio. •
et of the Hon. Gen.
Mr. PEEL char:a:revised the canoe:
tleman as that of a very vexatious proeuerling, to which he
would net resort-if be were out of officenaernorrow, as it
only tended to stop public business. He shon44 take tl.e
sense of the House on the. question itself, and lie, trusted
that would he decisive.
Mr. RICKFORD said a few words, which were inau-
dible from the laughter of the House, and from loud cries
of Question, Question-" -
Mr, TENNYSON alluded to Mr. Peel's expression of
vexatious proceedings, and- signified his determination to
00...--(Cries of " Question.")—lt was of no use for the
Committee to interrupt him, as it would only waste time.
if the Right ion. Gentleman was sincere in Lis intention
of giving the franchise from East Retford to giemingliam,
if the Bill relative to Penryn were thrown out in exother
Place, he would loss nothing by now withdrawing Ida
clause. But the Right flan. Gentleman might change his,
mind.—(Cries of ",Questioes")—He would only say one
word more :—lf he were to the course which
the proCeedings had taken—if he west to allow the name
of eassetlaw to stand-in the 13111, he should arAnd disgraced
in the eyes of the country.—(Cries of " Questio4l,")
Mr. STEWART reoammended,lbat instead of ersastiss
u-
ing the opposition, the Bill should be withdrawn altogether,
Colonel SIBTMORP said a few words, which were not
audible t.. 1 the Gallery.
Mr. OVIEALE should role against the Bill.
Strangers .mere tl-en ordered to .widtdraw ; but what the
Motion was before the Committee it wee not possible to
team. We understand, however, Chet J. Tennyson
made a Motion to adjourn the further procesediAgs pi the
Committee ; -in favour of which Motion there AN-W. 44
Ayes, 24 ; Noes, 22 l.—Alsierity, 107. .
On our re-entering the GalisAy, we fountbMr. Secretary
hex eedd accept-, no comproe
PEEL on his 'eggs declaring
mile whatever. Hier/Auld not take advantage of the great.
majority he had, but hymnal adhere to thesterms formerly
offered. If theßen. ,ltleurbe.r.would allow the nise,„eaneying
otiose to. be brought up, it might be dOile; and he would
.aftersiards consent to any reasonulde 'eclair,: In order for .
the ..Qll.
tChe
fros,:ae to understand the proposition Pf E4
it was necessary that, they should be
Member for Hertford,
ihe re fo re,
in print; sad,
he wished that his clauwehesuld
be brought up awl Printed. t • ,
We, TENNtsotg. objected that his tion.. Friend,. thel
Memiser for Hertford, .was not prepaked with his clauses,
and he chid not think, wilt. a fresh instructiou to the
•
Committee, that the clauses FAQ1,.2 then be introduced into
the Bill. He erished that the Li easesltes it not . I then b
se
introduced—(Cries pf " Go on) go ":9"„ 4
Si! JOHN SEBRICJIT reernninenae" d
not to oppose the introdurtion of the clausee. He 'mod
rather see the Bill thrown nut than that it should pass ah
now framed. The public would awn be assured, whatever
corruption might be proved, to whatever extent it might be
carried, it would receive no punishment from .t- et
Lord NUGENT agreed tulles with what the fees: speaker
had said, and recommended b-is R9n. Friend to allow Sias
Bill to, be pnweeded with. lie would . phject to the pro-
position of the eight Hon. Geritleman ; uft ,at the same
time he must say, `hat be-would rather throw ssne the Bill
than give the franchise to the hundred. He wcedd
the hundred of Bassetlaw to be inserted, in order to
the Bill, and then it night lie over till the Penryn Rill
wits disposed of.
A long desultory eolversatton ROW toot place ag tO the
fortis of proceeding, in which Mr. Lrrrsv.ron, Mr: P4l's
Mr. V. .CALir VitT, Mr. SI•A NTT) Mr. TENNYSON; Mr.
BARINCI,, Mr. PItICE, and Lord NUGENT,
took part; some
members fecomr.ending 'that the Hon, Member fur Hert-
ford should Legowed to bring up his clauses, others con-
tending
that he wag not ready to bring them up,; and Others
recommending those ;vlio opposed the introduction .ofthern,
to allow them to be brought up:
Mr. BARING wished further proceedingst to be posts

posted.
Lord NUGENT confided ,in the pledge of the Right
Hon. Gentleman, to place the Howe 4 the same. situation
it would have been in shoull the Penryn Bill pot Pasg•
Mr. CALVERT ruse in order flatly to contradivt the
statement that he was nut prepared to bring up the elms*.
(Hear.)—He was perfectly prepared.
Mr: TENNYSON—What, with the raw's.?
Mr. CALVERT—Yes.—(Loud laughter.)
Mr. SPRING RICE recomnaeltded the Hun. Gentle-

man (Mr. Tennyson) to let the Bill take its course. He
did not think the re-commitment of this Bill depended upon
the proceedings in the other House.

Mr: PEEL would preserve his judgment unclouded by
keeping his temper.- As to the franchise of Penryn being
thrown into the hundred;- he had only to observe, that he
was not privy to any arrangement fin• making it a Cabinet
measure.. The Cabinet, so far as he was aware, had come
to no determination on the subject. After a decision by a
majority of 97, the Hon. Member for Hertfordshire (Mr.
N. Calvert) had certainly a right to introduce his Bill to
the House. The delinquent voters appeared to have de-
served some mark of reprobation, but he thought the dis-
qualifying clause objectionable as irregular and informal.
Touching the recommittal of the Bill, he bad no objection
to allow sufficient time to enable them to become acquainted
with the decision of the House of Lords.
Mr. BARING explained.
. Lord NORMANBY suggested that his Hon Friend
should accede to the proposal from the opposite side of the
House.

After a few words from • Mr. N. CAIN F. aT, the preamble,
as'amended, was carried without a division.
The House then' resumed, and the Report was brought
up by Mr. R. Goitnosi...-Ordered•to be taken into Con-
sideration this. day sent' ight.-
Mr.- 0. CAVE postponed his motion for a Bill to
prevent the application of corporate funds to the purposes
of election of Members to serve in Parliament, till Tuesday,
June 10.

Mr. S. RICE, on the part of *Sir J. NeweoitT, post-
poned to the same' day the Hon. Baronet's motion respect-
ing the consolidation Navy Board.
The other• Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and
the House Adjourned at One o'clock.

SECO:\ U EDITION.
SUN OFFICE, Seven o'Cloc4.

THE LONDON GAZEATE

OF THIS EVENING.

War-Office, June 2, 1828.

2d Regiment of Dragoon Guards—Lieutenant George
Hedley to be Captain, by purchase, vice Knox; who re-
tires ; Cornet George Webhe Tobin to be Lieutenant, by
purchase, vice Medley; NI Minn Brandling, Gent. to be
Cornet, by purchase, vice Tobin—all dated May 1.
9th Regiment of Light Dragoons--Assistant-Surgeon
James Wilson, M.D. from the 4th Foot, to be Assistant.:
Surgeon, vice Shiell, who retires upon half-pay. April 25.
• 12th Ditto—Cornet John Pulteney to be Lieutenant, by
purchase, vice-Petre, who retires ; Ensign• Charles Villiers
Stuart, from the 36th Foot, to be Cornet,'by purchase,.vice
Pulteney—both dated May S.
14th Ditto--Assistant-Surgeon Joseph Huey, from the
58th Foot, to be Assistant-Surgeon, vice Hughes, ap-
pointed to the 5-ith Foot. May 1..

l6th Ditto—Lieut. Peter Tooke Robinson, from the
67th Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Brooks, who exchanges.
May I.
3d Regiment of Foot—Lieut..Gabriel Kenyon, fro►n the
50th Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice St4hens, Whose ap-
dointment has not taken place ; hospital-Assistant Win-
Nall, to be Assistant-Surgeon • May 8.
6th Ditto—Lieutenant-COlonel Robert Bryce Fearon,
from the 64th Foot, to be Lieutenant-Colonel, vice Bruce,
who exchanges, May I. Captain James. Leslie, from the
54th FOot, to be'Major, Without purchase, vice Scott, de-
ceased, ensign John Walker, from the I;it Foot, to be
Lieutenant, without purchase, vice Gell, promoted—Both
dated May 15.

12th Ditto•r-C.aptain Robert Andrews. Mackenzie, from
the half-pay, to be Captain, vice Josephl3ygrave, who ex-
ehq.oges, receiving the difference; May 8.
_John Thornp-
,son. Gent.. pp be Ensign, without purchase, vice Hadfield,
appointed to the 444 Foot; May 15.
13th Ditto—Ensign John George Dalhousie TaYlor, to
he Lieutenant, without purchase, vice Lamphier, de-
ceased; William Talbot Shakespear, Gent. to be Ensign,
vice Taylor----Botli dated Oct. 25.
14th Ditto—Major George Thornhill, to be Lieutenant-'
Colonel, by purchase, vice Campbdll, who retires; Capt.
Gerald Rochfort to be Major, by purchase, vice Thornill;
I,i,c4tenant Charles Rayner Newman, to be Captain, by pur-
chase, vies Bochfort—all tiatedMay 1, Ensign W. Thorpe,
from the 4503 row, vice,Pasley, promoted, dated June 2 ;
Ensign Spencer Greases, from the 64th Foot, vice Stewart,
promoted in the 2Pth Foot, dated June 3 ; Ensign 13.
Jenkins, from the Nth Foot, vice Newman, June 4 ; to
be Lieutenants, by purchase.
17th.Ditto--Ensign and Adjutant David Cooper to have
the eligk et Lieutenant, May I.
20th biitur,...Eniign Charles Cooke, from half-pay 66th
Foot,-to beEnsipp vice Rodgers, appointed to the 26th
Foot, May I.
Ditto--Lieut. Charley. William Perkins Magra,
from the. 41st Foot, to First Lieutenant, vice Alexander
Young, who retires upon half-pay Royal African Corps;.
Lieut, Thomas Wharton Young to be Adjutant, vice
Young who resigns the Adjutant on, May 8. • •
22d Ditto—Lieutenant William Bartley to be Paymaster,
vice Barlow deceased.. May 8.
24th Ditto—Lieutenant James Beveridge Hams to be
• Captain, by purchase, -vice Smyth, who retires. Ensign
Hon. Chales Preston to be Litutenant, by purchase, vice
Harris. Joho James Greig, Gentleman, to be Enkign, by
purchase; Ace p eston—May 15.
• 26th Ditto--Lieutenant Richard Thompson, from the
60th Foot to be Lieutenant, fiW Vernon, who exchanges ;
•May.td: Ensign James Rodger, friam rthe 20th Foot, to
lie.Quartermasker, vice William Rodgers, who retires upon
half-pay 66th Foot-411y 1.
' 28th Ditto—Lieutenant Yroderick Wimbledon Priestly
Parker, from the 58th Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Bingley
Broadhead, Who retires on half-pay Royal African Corps.
APW 0.
29t1a Ditto Lieutenant Allan Stewart, from the 14th
Foot; to t•e•Paistain, by purchase, vice Richardson, pro-
!noted: . lone 4.
:32d ditto--,Captain Tho Mas [lvory Wingfield to be Ma-
jor, by purchase, Vice Gaticoigw, yromoted ; Lieut. Fre-
derick D. Hodges to be Captain, by piirchage, !Ago Wing-
field; Ensign Charles Stracey Bewley to be Lieutenant, by
vice Hodges ; and Gentleman Cadet Alexander
CatripbeFA from the Royal Military College, to be Ensign,
by purchase, w'rk.;:a yeizley. June 3.
34th ditto—Major Henry Robert Ferguson to be Lieut. •
i
byptircliase, vice aaffithell) who retires ; Capta n
Richard Greaves to be Major. y purchase, vice Ferguson;
and Captain William Mackenzie, from al; half-pay, to
,be
. .
Captain, vice Great/°r• May 8.
55th Ditto:=Eosign H. Ward to be Lieutenant, with-
sitollase, vice O'Hara, deceased ; and George New-
ton, Ge4t...; ,to 'ho Ensign, vice Ward. May 1.
86th Ditt44.aptSsig, gUgh'Barton; from the half-pay,.
to be Captain, TICP
William Cocker; who ex -
chancres, receiving.thelliffeteock. M4y Q 4.,—George Pent-
ley Bbotircii icy, Gent. to be ensign, by ptircl;asp, vitae Stuart,
..apporated :I.O.ricifelfath Light Dragoons. MaY §.•
2th Ditto—Lieutenant William Frederick Vernon; from
the Roya.! African Colonial Corps, to be Lieutenant, vice
Blake, appointed po the 98th Foot. May 8.
89th Ditto7-LieutOapt George Anthony Pook, from'
14R-pay Rifle I.3rigade„to ;to I.ieutenant, vice Gregory
Dolphin, wlagt exchanges;)
40th Dittai,ietitenant ames Siveque,y, Acoip ill!e 87th
Foot, to be Lieutenant; 'yiee Ramsay, yho e•:.'changes;
May 8.
41st Ditto—Lieutenant ChmittS tfottc, ,the 40y0
African Colonial Corps, to be Lieutenant, vice Mope, ap-
pointed to the 21st Foot; May 8.
44th Ditto:---Ensign Willliam Howe Hatlfield, front the
al4 rgq, to he Ensign, vice Usher, deceased ; May 15.
4,5 th Dittoz,-,Lieetenant Thomas Prendergast, from the
89th Foot, tio-befr il,,leAkvazt? vice M'Gregor, cashiered ;
May 15. . _

to,
i44;76eilitii:B43spislttiitono_t--fs:luieroguseotp.i:nt:icAbssalesltaNnatt William itlollabm ii; ra Fs.
vice Bush, deceased eulll Ty
Fryer,
4tite. deceased ; Ma 15 '
e Quartermaster,
vice . Baile.,.deretised,. Nov. 4.
vice Brothe
48th Ditto—Lieut. I,,Vigtm Wilson
to be Captain,
ivithout purchase,
:Lieut. Fenton Finly, from half-pay 1084 Foot, vice Lehi-
bahl Erskine, appointed to the 63d Foot ; May 8. ~,,iu
Arthur Hill Hall, vice Wilson ; May 15—to be Lieute-
nants: Gordon Skelly Tidy, Gent. vice Hull ; May 15_
to be Ensign.
49th Ditto—Ensign Robert Camp bell, from the 82d
Foot,, to be - Lieutenant, without, purchase, 'vice Dwyer,
•rrlioSe appointment has not taken place ; April 26,
E-40th Ditto—Lieut.. George Itilinughby Davy O'Hara,
from the half-pay, to be Lientenalnt; vice Kenyon, appointed
to theN Toot ; May 8. ' 7
.-
54th Ditto--Brevet Llitit.--Col,. Edward Kelly, from
half-pay 23d Light Dragooni4, to be captains Yice Leslie,
promoted ; May 15.
55th Ditto—Lieutenant bins Trydell,. from balf•pay 2d
Royal Veteran tattal 1 on , to beLieutenant, vice, tompson,
whose appointment has not taken place; May S. , -Jobn
Horner, Gent., to be Ensign; by purrha,e, vile, Thorpe,
promoted in the 1 Ith Foot ; June 3.• . .. , ,
58th Ditto—Lieut. Jonas Paisley Hardy,, from half•pay
Royal African Corps, to be Lieutenant, vice Parker, aP-,
pointed to the 28th Foot; Aay 8, Ronhalot Faunce,

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Gent. •to be' Ensign, 1y purchase, vice Phillips, who re-
tires.; May 15. '
61st Ditto—Lientenant Frederick Barlow to be .Adju-
tant, vice Toole, who resigns the Adjutancy only. Lieut.
Ardier Toole to he Povmaster, vice Glas, retired upon
half-pay'; lioth dated May 1.
63d Ditto—Ensign George Armstrong, without pur-
chase, vice Burrell; dveiased. Lieutenant Arch. Erskine,
from the 48th Foot, vice 'John Ward, who retires on half-
pay 103 d Foot ; both dated May B—to be Lieutenants.
John Lord, Gent. vice Armstrong, dated May B—to be
Ensign.
64th Ditto—Brevet Colonel Ch.aries Bruce, from the
6th Foot, to be Lieutenant-Colonel, vice Fearon, who ex-
Changes ; May 1. Xavier Peel, Gent. to be Ensign, by
purchase,. vice Greaves, promoted in the 14th Foot, June 3.
65th Ditto—Captain Samuel, Walker, from the half-
pay, to Captain, vice William Snow, who exchanges, re-
ceiving the difference ; May 15.
67th Ditto—Lieut. Henry Brooks, froni the 16th Light
Dragoons, to be Lieutenant, vi te Rubinson, whoexchanges,
May 1.
68th Ditto—Ensign Philip,Durtiford to be Lieutenant,
without purchase, vice Mendhaii, deceased ; Slay I. John
Francis Bouchette, Gent. to be Ensign, vice Bamford,
May 1.
69th ditto—Lieut. John Russell Vernon, from the 26th
Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Thompion, who exchanges.--
May 8.
72d ditto—Staff Assistant-Svrgeon William Michael
Forde, to be Assistant-Surgeon, vice Stratford, who re-
signs. April 25. •
73d Ditto--,Lieutenant Edward Lee Godfrey to be
Captain, without 'purchase, vice Hay, deceased ; May 15.
Ensign Benjamin Brown to be Lieutenant, vice Godfrey ;
May 15.
74th Ditto—Lieutenant Thomas Gordon to be Captain,
by purchase, vice Hassard; who retires; May 1. Ensign
Jas. Stewart, by purchase, vice Gordon, May 1 ; and Lieut.
Hon. John Henry Roper CIIIZOII, from the 98th Foot, vice
Robert B4ker, who retires on half-pay Royal African
Corps, May 8, to be Lieutenants. Robert Horton, Gent.
vice Stewart, dated May 1, to be Ensign, by purchase.
76th Ditto-Robert Briace, Gent. to beEnsign, without
purchase, vice Ponsonby, whose appointment has not taken
place, May 1.
80th Ditto—Captain Lord William Francis Montagu,
from the half-pay, to be Captain, vice John Routledge
Majendie, who exchanges, receiving the difference
May 15.
82d Ditto—Richard 'Silver, Gent. to be En:gls, with-
out purchase; vice Campbell, promoted to the 49th Foot
—April 26.
85th Dittc—Captain Edward Hopwood, from the half-
pay, to be Captain, vice John Watts, who exchanges, receiv-
ing the 'difference, May.B.
86th DittO—PreVet Major Thomas Cox Kirby, from
half-pay 80th Foot, to be Captain, vice John Oliver Howe
Nunn, who exchanges. May 15.
87th Ditto—Captain Lord Arthur Chichester, from the
half-pay, to be Captain, vice George Rodney Bell, who
#xehanges, receiving the "difference ; May I. Lieutenant
Perceval Ramsey, from the 40th Foot, to be First .Lieu-
tenant, vice Sweeney; who exchanges. May.B.
89th Ditto—Ensign 11. WilsOn to, be Lieutenant, with-
out purehase, vise Prendergast, appointed to the 45th
Foot. May 15,
94th Ditto—Captain Remy Robert Milner, from the
halfipay, to be Captain, vice Alexander Stewart, who ex-
changes, receiving the difference.—May 8.
98th Digo—Lieutenant James Bunbuiy Blake, from
the 38th Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Curzon, appointed
to the 7 4th' Foot ; May, B.l'
99th Ditto-Robert Holland Walker, Gent. to be En-
sign,. by purchase, vice Jenkins, promoted in the 14th
Foot; June 4. .
Ceylon Regiment—Charles Boyle Deiatre, Gent. to be
Second Lieutenant, without purchase, vice H. Smith, whose
appointment has not taken place ; May 15.
Royal Newfoundland Veteran Companies—Brevet Major
William Sall, from half-pay 47th Foot, to be Captain, vice
Rodkin,. who exchanges ; May. 15.
—UNicria;olEti.--M.jor E. F. Gascoigne, 'from the 32d
Foot, to be Lieut.•'-coionel d Infantry, by purchase ; Capt.
A. Richardson, from the -29th Foot, to be Major of In-
fantry; by purchase, June-3. • Lieutenant A. Marquia of
Douro, from the'Royal Regiment of Horse Guards, May
8 ; and .Lieut. G. Paley, from the 14th Foot,' Jnne 2, to
be Captains of 'lnfantry, by purchase.
STAFF.-Lieut.-Colonel R. Torrens, of the 3Sth Faot,
to be Adjutant-General to the King's Troops serving in
the East Indies, vice Lieut.-Colonel Macdonald, deceased ;
and Lieut.-Colonel R. B. Fearon. of the 6th Foot, to be
Deputy Adjutant-Getieral to the King's Troops serving in
the East Indiei, vice Lieut.-Cclonel Torrens, both dated
May 1. •
HOSiiITAL STAFF.—John Wardrop Moore, Gent., vice
O'Callaghan, ',appointed to the 27th Foot ; Thomas Gal-
braith Logan, M.D.; yice Maelachlan, appointed to the
79th Foot; 'William Robertson, Gent,. vice Fryer, ap-
pointed to the 46th Foot—all dated, May 8;to be Hospital
Assistants to the Farces.

BRE vrr. —Major-General gir James Lyon, K.C.8., to
have the local rank of Lieutenant•Genetal in the Wind-
ward and Leeward Wands wily—May I. Major Hon.
John Hobart Cradock, 'on the hall-pay, to be Lieut./maw-
Colonel in the army:---Dec. 25.
MEMORANDA.—The :appointment of Mr. Richard
Silver to an Eriiigney in the 13th Foot, stated to have
tak( n place on tlie 26th of April 1828, has not taken place.

The appointment of Lieutenant Da.vis,from the half-pay,
to the 35th Foot, on 27th June, 1827, was vice Sharrock,
promoted, and not vice O'Keeffe, promote I.
The Christian names of Ensign Adye, of the 98th Foo.,
are Stephen Bawtree.
The appointment of Ensign Knyvett, from half-pay
18th Foot, to the 58th Foot, stated to. have taken place
on the 22d February last, has not tattiest place. .
The date of Lieutenant-Colonel' Grogan's rank in the
Army, is lat January
.1812, and not 4th June 1813, as
formerly stated.
The appointment of Ensign Thompson, from the half-
pay, to the 58th Foot on the 22d February last, was vice
Campbell, appointed to the 43d Foot, and not vice Phillips,
who exchanges. .
The commission of Lieutenant Montgomery, of the Ist
Foot, has been antedated to 30th October 1826, hut ha
has not been allowed any back-pay.
The under-mentioned Officers have been allowed to dis-
pov qf t✓lipir Forprpit,sions :
Major OcWins Temple, half-pay Unattached. June 3,
Lieutenaut,Colooel Thomas Timins, Royal Marines.
June S.

Captain Henry Dixon, Retired List 4th Royal Veteran
RataHop. June

commissioni signed by the. Lord Lieuten.ant of the Count•

, . .. .
of Northampton.
To, be Deputy Lieutenants, Samuel Amy Severne, Esq
Feb. 14 ; and- Henry Hely 114tchinstm, Esq. March 4.

BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED.
William Mogg, Wiocanton, Somersetsbiae, deale.
BANKRUPTS.

John Jernier and John Wharton Soppet, Greek-ttreet,
4013 q, 4ep-drapers, to surrender June 6, IS, at one, July
J 4, at ten, at the Court of Commissioners. Ashurst,
Sambrook-court, liitsipgha/I-street.
Robert Keene, Stroud, Junk I§, JR, July
15, at eleven at the Fleece-inn, Rodborough. Houseman,
Woodchester; Cardall.and Co. Gray's-inn, London.
Oidley Lewis, Clarkes-place, Islington, straw-hat-mamu-
lacturer, June 10, at eleven, I'7, at ten, and July 15, at
nine, at lie 10 of Commissioners. Brookahank and
Earn, ..GFay's-!nn-rignare.
,George Stevens, I,llenate-stree4 silversrni,th, jtinp 0, at
prle~ y, and July 15, at twelve, at the Punt of Coriolis-
osioners, 14,-rton, 4ewin-street, .414ersgak7stre4.
James Nightingae, i.4duit-stipet, 14oud-street, tailor,
June 6, 13, at one, and July 10, at tea, 0 the Court of
Commissioners. Jobbling lard Chambers, Bedford,stroet,
Covent-garden.
T Arkell, Glouceatershire, corn-dealer,
nonr7
hire 19, at rrve,%tr, and July 15, at ten, at the Fleece Inn,
Rodborough, Glnucte4ershlre,' 4;-okelyne, Tetbury ; and
Vickery, New Boswell,:corirt, Tr!fl,

(For the remainder of our Second Edition,,,-
-See First Page.) . • •

We have neither space nor
.time at present to discuss
the explanations given by Messrs Htrskisson, Peel, and
Lord Palmerston, last night in the Floasw,cjf Commons
one paint, however, cannot fail to strike even the most
careless reader, viz., that allowing the Duke' of Wellington
to have put the proper construction on .the first letter of
Mr. Huskisson, his determination not to understand the
subsequent disavowals of resignation so distinctly and re-
peatedly made by that gentleman, affords a pretty strong
proof that hi& Grace's apprehension was much quicker-apd
Alearer against his colleague than for him. The oPportu-
aity of getting,rid pf him was seized with zealous alacrity :
the opportunity of taking bh back, thOugh preSel?ted
again and again, seems quite to hive escaped his Grace's
observation. When, indeed, a successor to Mr. Huskissou
bait actually been appointed, the Noble Duke suggests that
there might have been an arrangement of the difference, --
2 suggestion which, as it could not then be acted upon, has,
smething of the air of a mauvaise plaisanterie.— Times.

LONDON,
TUESDAY EVENING, JUNE 3, 1828.

The expected explanation was given by Mr. Hus-
KISSON last. night, in a speech of great power and
occasionally of considerable asperity. The allusions to
those " venerable buffooneries," which fitly spiced
what is called the Pitt dinner, and to
.the system of
Cabinet discipline of which Mr. HustossoN has
been made the victim, were in a style of caustic se-
verity which would not have misbecome the ,finest
exhibitions of the satirical eloquence of Mr.
CANNING. • •

With regard to the subject-matter of the expla-
nation, it has not substantially varied the impression
which we previously entertained respecting the
transactions in question.
It seems indeed to be generally thought, and we
concur in the opinion, that the first letter of Mr.
HUSKIssON was indiscreet. It was not indeed
a resignation. It went no further than to afford
the Duke of WELLINGTON an opportunity of placing
Mr. HUSKISsON'S office in other hands. This is not
the lapguage,--Mr. PEEL admitted that . it was
not,---in which great Officers of State resign their
situations. Still it was indiscreet, because it did
net distinctly and in specific terms suspend the ten-
der of resignation on the condition that the DUke
deemed the rote on the East Retford question
fit cause of separation.

But what was it that made this omission indis,
creel? - It is to this question that particular atten-
tion should be paid. The
.indiscretion would have
been none in a communication to a friend. 'I he
letter Was indiscreet because 'it gave an opening of
which hostile' advantage might be taken. The
very charge of indiscretion, therefore, assumes
that there was on the ether side a readiness to take
such- advantage and this is manifestly the true key
to the whole matter. It was an opening impru-
dently given, because it was sure to be eagerly
Seized.

. .
The headlong promptitude,, however, to fix on
this unfortunate letter the character of an unqualified
resignation, might itself have been entitled to the
same excuse with the hasty production which it so
characterized.—.. Stopping at this first interchange of
communications; we should have said, here is a
little precipitate act on one 'side followed by a pre-
cipitate act, on the other; let them pair off together.
But then come the explanations of Mr. HUSKIS-
SOiki ';—reiterated explanations ;—explanations, ver-
bal and written ;—the former, conveyed by
.a person
of the clearest intellect, and the most perfect ac-
quaintance with the usages of society;—the latter,
couched in letters as decisive as they are perspicuous.
To all these, but one answer was made :—I under-
stood your first letter in the Sense you disclaim, and
I never will understand it in any other. We venture
to,prediet that, after the passion and prejudice of the
passing day shall haVe expired, this part of the case
will receive but one construction from all tolerably
impartial -men of every party. In the annals of
social or of cabinet altercation, nothing was ever heard
to exceed or even to resemble it. Every sensible,
nay every sentient head, knows that, the instant a
construction put on a letter is expressly and pointedly
disclaimed by the writer, from that instant the point et
issue is the.disclainier,and nothing else. You may
say, this disclaimer does not sati.lv me, and for such
or such reasons; but you cannot in fairness or reason
or sense go back to your original construction of the
document just as if no disclaimer had been made.—
Even frOM an avowed enemy such a total inversion
of all common rules of justice could not be expected;
—what name then shall be given to it in a corre-
spondence between persons addressing each other in'
terms. of the freest and most confidential intercourse ?

Let us however see what account of this singular
mode of procedure is giVen by the party concerned.
Your subsequent letters did not, according to my
" understanding of them, convey any disavowal of
" your intention to tender your resignation."
We stop not to remark that, if this observation.
had any force, it ought to have been made before'
the negotiation was closed. That is quite obVious ;
—but really that is not the only reason why it had
better have been wholly suppressed. An under-
standing" incomparably inferior to that of which
the Noble writer speaks, might liVe been expected
to perceive that.a more glaring sophism was never
exhibited under the guise of an argument.
The whole question as to Mr. llrsittssoN's first
letter was, Whether it was an abiolute, or merely a
conditional, tender of resignation. The Duke had
understood it as absolute;. Mr. Hustussos; explained
again and again that it was meant to be pinely con-
ditional. The Duke had said that it left hint no
option; Mr. HUSKISSON'S repeated disclaimers put it
on the very footing of option. There was no_ question
made as to the necessity., of disavowing even the condi-
tional resignation. And yet, when all is over, when the
door is finally closed on accommodation,—then it is
coolly observed that the explanatory letters had not
generally disavowed the tender of resignation, pass-
ing fiver the important distinction between an abva-
lute and a qualified tender ; whichN;vas the whole
matter in dispute. 1/6;w oirtr4t 2t6iit,iorAr,'-ertr
It were vain to dwell'longer on considerations so
plain ; nor tee we at all surprised to observe
th4t Mr. PL, who, on every other part of the
Subject, vas fOpiguS even to tedium, preserved .on
this most important point the deepest -silence. There
are on4ims in guiritilian . which Would fully justify
his,disoretiCui,

Having dwelt salong-on what may be regarded as
the personal part ,of this affair, we shall reserve till
to-Inotrow, ourremarks on the declarations Iyhich the
pertinacious inquiries of Mr. BROUGHAM elicited
pertinacious inquiries of Mr. BRQUGHAM elicited
rorn t M Noma ,secretary, res ecting the principles
and. intended policy of the ne.l ,PCIM YMe4t•
' • "

Of; 4Thi.

It is stated, In a letter 'of the 80th April, from
Constantinople, addressed to a Nobleman of high
rank (Lord, *TR44pFoRD), well acquainted with the
country, that on the 28th. of that 'month the SUL.
TAN reviewed on the plains a force of .5A,060 men;
and the writer adds, they were not only well orga-
nised, but performed their evolutions with a promp-
tityd,e and stealliness that would nOt h 4% ,e disgrFe4
veteran urope..in troops. If so, there 9: more etp-
ployment cut out for' the Russians 7

We received this morning the ifamburgh../?e,
porter of Friday last, which seems to question the
accuracy 'of the account given by the Leinburg Ga-
zette, respecting the battle between the Russians