The Sun.
London, England, 1819-01-28 00:00:00

anti the latter 151, wlich clearly showed
the progressive increAse in the latter periods ;
-and these he compated with what took place
for a few years before and since the couclusion
of the late war, which, on a specification of
the numbers, shetved the immense increase
occurring in the recent instance, It was proper,
he thought, that these considerations should be
attended to, in order that it may be seen how far
the same effect operated at intervals Of transition
from a state of war to one of peace; and he
thought it tight to trouble their Lotdships with
these qo.iservations, which would tend to enable
them to form a jester conclusion as to the cames
which contributed so laigely,to the recent great
increase of these serious offences. The subject
would come under their consideration in some
ether shape. They might easily conceive the ef-
fect of necessarily having great numbers ot men-
di.eharged front our naval and military es•ablisl...
Mew's, which ware recently extensive, tar beyond
all f.4mer preccdent, and the lamented cnnse-
treni•ei adverted to twist naturally be expected
tt; he great in pr.porzion.

"I he Niarquis nfLAsspowse concurred with the
Noble Ertl in some d,gtee, h\it by no means, to
the 101 l event of his inferences. The lamented
jai r,ase of clime did not, he observed, particu-
larly take place at the period of transition from
%var to peace, as the greatest increase was in a
period -1 peace, and in some degree doting the
coetinttance of war. The causes were to he at-
trilmted to the state of the country in other re-
soet.rs. The increase of taxation might he te-
irded as the principal ; the fl ett:minus of pro-
periy had also some share in produciug it ; but
he did not think ti,at the reductions in our naval
and mitlitat y establishments had by any means that
slime in contributing to tile evik in question ;
indeed it was rather a matter of surprise that the
number of soldiers and sailors convicted was com-
paratively so small. The great increase of juve-
nile delinquency was also a lamentab:e cause, and
with this that which the Noble Earl adverted to
lead little or nothing to do, as appeared plainly
on the face of the returns. The state of the
great manufactories, and the baneful practice of
crowding such numbers of young persons loge.
!her, might also be regarded as a c.,11.5e ; and he
farther thought the effect of our extensive iedlic-
Ow) was now comparatively trifling as we were
Dow in the fourth year of peace.
The Earl of Ltvaffrooe shortly explained, as
to the effect of some of his statements, which he
thought the Noble Marquis to have misetinceived.
The Marquis of LIN:snow:0; con:inned his ob-
servations. Ihe increase of crime of late years
was beyond all former precedent ; it was in a
three-fold ratio. In concluding, he trusted those
most important topics to which the Petition re-
ferred would muel with the full and ConSi-
dermion of P,rliameat, with a view to the tho-
rotigh revisal of a system so truly alarming and
pregnant with evil.
The Earl of LivECPOOL fortLer explained, that
the data to which he had referred was by no
means assigned as the general cause ; but that its
consideration formed a material and prominent
feature of the subject,

Lord KING expressed his opinion, that there
was hot little hopes to he entertained of really
owliorating the state of the coutitry In these re-
spects, until ;he ancient and svl►ole'some ssteto of
payments in specie would be' again recurred to.
The monopoly in which the Bank was indulged
for the exclusive issue of small notes, was, he
held, inittlions in more respects than one ; and
particularly it fostered the injurious and much-
exzlaimed-against practice of
,forgery, inasmuch
as it rendered :hat Corporation quite cat eless in
that respect ; ►thereas the Country Bankers, by
exerting a proper degree of vigilance, were little
liable to such impositions. The Clumsy manner
io which the National Bank notes were fabricat-
ed, also afforded much facility to forgeries. Let
cash payments be again restorer!,
and the Bank
deprived of those exclusive advantages which - it
was not entitled to by its, Charter, and the most
salutary consequences, he thought, would follow.
he Ntition was then ordered to lie on the
table.

CARE OF HIS MAJESTY'S PERSON.-WINDSOR` ES-

B 1-INI ENT.

The i of LIVERPOOL moved the Order of the
Day "or their Lordships going into a Committee
on this B

Previous, however, to the Lord Chancellor's
quitting the ‘Voolsack,
The Marquis r,f LANSDOWNE gave notice of his
inter►tion to n►uvr, 011' .Mooday next, for copies
of,the Instructions sent to the livitish Governors
in the E-,silndies,with regard to the cession of
the Dutch Colonies, consequent upon the Peace
of, Paris..

The Earl of SHAPTISBURY then took the Chair
of the Committee 00 the above Bill ; when
Lord ifoLLaNn rose, and re-urged his objec-
tions of last evening, but more in detail, against
the Bill in its present shape. He confessed he
still enrettaioed his objections to i• ; hut lie beg-
ged to he understood as harbouriug uo idea
whatever that any whey prrson than hig Royal
Big-Imes% the Duke of Yolk could so properly be
entrusted with the care of his i‘lajesty's Person.—
Dlany considerations, lie thone,ht,icombined to
tender that illustrious individual the most proper
person fur the purpose. 1-le, however, seem-
ed to drink it would he more proper to
unite that appointment and the regulation of the
future Windsor Establishment in one Bill. The
Noble Earl spoke yesterday of the inten-
tion to reduce these Establishments ; but there,
was no provision of that kind in the Bill—it
;Toed betote the House merely on the Noble
Eat l's ISStirkillCe. For his part, he thought such
el r. auction should have taken place long since,
inasmuch as it conferred no -personal comfort or
dignity with respect to his Majesty, and induced
a useless hinthen on the country. The Noble
litt,.r.rl hid certainly in or her instances changed his
opinions bs to the EstabilS.lollelltS proper for other
branches of the Royal Family ; he, conld no!.
therefore, think it inconsistent in him, if he had
proposed a reduction in this branch of tie Royal
Expeuditure. But the present Bill called upon
the House to place certain patronage in the hands
of _the Illustrious Individual, without knowing
what that patronage was. The -Establishinent
wally useless and burthensome. There

%%AS 110 W f: