The Sun.
London, England, 1845-06-24 00:00:00

HOUSE of 1,0 iDS-4.—(T PIS DA V.)

The Muse sat again to.day to hear writ.a of error. The Peen
present were—The Lord Chancellor, Lord Brouf,hain, and Lord
Campbell. The followim., Juoges were also in attendance :—The
Lord Chief Justice of the Court of Common Pleas, Mr. Baron
Parke, Mr. Justice Williams, Mr. Justice Wightman, Mr. Justice
Creswell, Mr. Justice Patteson, Mr. Justice Coleridge, Mr. Jus-
tice Coltman, Mr. Baron Alderson, and Mr. Baron Rolfe.

VISCOUNT DUNGANNON V. S3IITII

The further arguments in this part.hcard case occupied their
Lordships the whole Morning.

_FULLS' COUR TYI IS DA

His Lordship the Master of the Rolls heard petitions to.day, of
which there are nearly eighty on his paper. No case of any inte.
rest Came before his Lordship.

VICE-CHANCERY.-(THIS DAY.)

(Before the VICE-CHANCELLOR of ENGLAND.)
ASHTON V. PARKER.—JUDOMENT

His Hoxot,•tt gave Judgment to-nay in this Case, which was
argued before the Court dining the last term The bill was tiled
for the purpose of enforcing a lien on certain property on which
the defendant, a lady of the name of Parker, had lent 6,0001. His
Honour, after going through the facts of the case, which we have
already detailed, stated Ins opinion to be that the lien was not sus-
tainable as against the defendant Mary Parker, and that as against
her, if the bill was a hostile one, it must be dismissed with costs;
if not it must be dismissed; and as to the other parts of the prayer
of the bill, there must be the common decree.
The COURT then proceeded to hear demurrers and further di-
rections.

(Before the Vice-Chancellor KNIGHT Entice.)
lIILYARD V. LBNOLET.

The further arguments in this part-heard cause occupied the
Court the whole day.
(Before Vice. Chancellor Winsam.)
FORSYTH W. ELLICE.--JUDGMENIT.

His HONOUR, after disposing of this case, heard causes, none of
which were of any public importance.

SHERIFFS, COURT.-(THIS DAY

(Before Mr. Under-Sheriff BilacmELL.)

lIIOTTON V. FISU,

This was an action to recover the sum of 61. 7s. 3d. for work
done at the new Conservative Clubhouse in St. James's-street,
and for nails, &c. supplied.

The plaintiff had been engaged as a foreman carpenter under
the defendant, who was the contractor for building the club.
house in question ; and he had the engagement of workmen
under him, and was paid the money on account of
the men, and was to be paid 6s. a-day. The plaintiff, however,
was very irregular in his attendance, and so frequently intoxicated,
that he vas discharged at the end of three months. The balance
of the account in dispute was in reality for three days and three-
quarters work, made up of hours in different days in the last week,
and for some nails, &c., supplied. The defendant had paid for
tne nails, allilClll6l. iIC ueu►eu .►.AL sic flan ever had them, and also
paid 12s. for two days' work, amounting :together to 14 155.,
which, it was alleged, was all that was due. Proof was adduced,
that after plaintiff left the job he said he had settled all up, but
o.► a subsequent occasion he said he would have a " go in" at de.
fendant, as he could get law as cheap as any one.—Verdict for
defendant.

CRIMINAL t_OURT.-(THIS DAY

(Before Mr. Commissioner BuLLocic.)

STEALING COFFEE.—George Morton, aged 22, described in the
calendar as a gardener, was indicted fer stealing 98Ibs. of coffee,
valued at 61. I Os., from the shop of Mr. Ward Slater, a grocer,
carrying on business in Long-street, City-road.
About half-past seven o'clock on the morning of Thursday, the
.sth inst., the prisoner was observed by the person having the care of
the house, which is let out in lodgings, the prosecutor not resid-
ing on the premises, and by another person, to take up the coff.e,
which was in a bag On perceiving that he was noticed he dropped
it at the side of the door. lie then ran away.
Six witnesses, four of whom were the prisoner's relations, were
called to prove an alild Their evidence went to show that he
was in bed at the time the robbery was stated to have taken place,
and that he did not leave the house until after nine in the meaning.
Mr. PAYNE addressed the jury on behalf of the prisoner.
The Learned JUDGE then summed up, and the jury found the
prisoner guilty of larceny.
A former conviction having been proved, he was sentenced to be
transpt,rted t.:r seven years.
Tit. LA re ROBBERY AT SIX WILLIAII MAGNAT'S.—John Ell.
who was remanded from last session on the charge of stealing a
quantity of paper, the property of Sir William Magnay, was dis-
charged, no evidence being offered on the part at the prosecution.
The sessions then terminated.

SOUTH-WESTERN RAILWAY.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUI

Silt.—You would render an essentiql service to the public
if you would call the attention of the Directors of tile :3,iut
Western R,tilway Company to the extraordinary want of
punctuality in the arrival of the morning trains, arid conse-
quent serious inconvenience which is occasioned to men of
business, who may have made arrangements on the calcula-
tion that the trains would arrive at the hours stated in the lists.
The train which left Gosport this morning at half-past six, and
was stated to be due at ten minutes past ten, did not arrive
at Nine Elms till four minutes to eleven, being three-quar-
ters of an hour after time, in a distance of only seventy-
eight miles. This unpunctuality is of such frequent recur-
rence that it is highly necessary the Directors should adopt
more efficient measures.—l am, Sir, your obedient servant,
June 23. A RAILWAY TRAVELLER.

PARLIAMENTARY BUSINESS.
MONDAY, JUNE 23. _ _

The following Bills were read a third time, and passed :
Dublin and Belfast Junction Railway.
Ulster Extension Railway.
Manchester South Junction and Altrincham Railway.
Manchester, Bury, and Rossendale Railway.
Great Southern and Western Railway.
Chester and Birkenhead Railway.
Great Southern and Western Railway (Ireland).
Ashton, Stalybridge, and Liverpool Junction (Ardwick
and Guide Bridge Branches) Railway.
Cornwall Railway.

The Lords' amendments to the following Bills were agreed
'Yarmouth and Norwich Railway.
Lowestoft Railway and Harbour.
Berks and Hants Railway.
Blackburn, Darwen, and Bolton Railway.
Bedford and London and Birmingham Railway.
Shrewsbury, Oswestry, and Chester Junction Railway.

The Armagh, Coleraine, and Portrush Railway Bill was re.
ferred to the Select Committee on Standing Orders.
The Epping Railway (No. 2) Bill, was read a second time,
and committed, and referred to the Committee of Selection.

NOTICES GIVEN AT THE PRIVATE BILL OFFICE.
Coventry, :Bedworth, and Nuneaton Railway,—Report,
Wednesday, June 25.
Bristol and Gloucester Railway (No. 2),—Report, Wedues-
day, June 25.
Epping Railway (Group NN ),—Select Committee on pr -
ject, adjourned till Thursday, Jtily 3, at twelve.
Norwich and Brandon Devialion (Di-s and Dereham
Branches) Railway,—Report, Wednesday, June .25.
London and South W,stern Railway ( tetropolittin Ex-
tension) (No. I),—Report on re-committed Bill, Wcdne,da‘ ,
June 25.

BRITISH ASSOCIATItiN FOR THE
AIiVANCENIENT OF SCIENCE.
CAMBRIDGE, JUNE 23.—Professor Deiffenbach, :of Berlin, ad-
dressed the section for a brief space on the interesting taper reao.
He said that the want of morality in New Zealain was not to
be considered, as morality was the product 01 cis iliz.stion, and it
always filllowed in the train of Christian c.viliz..r.tion. He thought
that they possessed, with vanity, sell-esit em also. Their boastbil.
ness prose(' this position. With iespect to moral C.UraVt.,
vi ant of which had necii attriboteil ti• them by Dr. who
saw, during a considerable resioence amongst them, a great miliy
instances of it oisplayed. He Wes of opinion that they could li.y
claim to something like a conscience, and knew pretty well the
distinctions of right and wrong, in some respects, as regarded pro_
perty. They had more virtues than people Who were inimical to
them gave them credit for possessing. He travelled amongst them,
and in parts where the face of an European was scarcely seen from
one year's end to another, and was everywhere treated with hos-
pitality and general kindness.
Professor Garrett was of opinion that the New Zealanders had
much more idea of a conscience than many civilised beings who
had the reputation of possessing one, and yet had it not. There
never wise a human being, hoWsoever savage he migl.t
be, but had some notions of right and wrung if
he choosed to act up to them. There were parallel cases
innumerable to the New Zealanders, in this respect, in this
country. There were plenty of Englishmen to be found, whose
sense of morality was not a whit superior to the New
Zealanders. How many amongst us, who professed the
most strict notions of religion, and were _remarkably sedulous in.
making a show of it, and yet these persons were found in their
dealings to be mean, cunning, selfish, whenever they act so they
safely evince the most decided dishonesty.
Doctor Deiffenbach, in answer to a question from a member,
stated his belief to be with regard to cannibalism, that amongst
most savage tribes it had its origin not in a love of human food, but
in superstition. The soul of the man eaten, it was believed by the
savage, entered the body of him who ate him.
In answer to a question from Dr. Hodgkin, as to the right of
tenure on land, bearing on the New Zealanders' notions of property
in this respect.
Mr. HALLAM (the author of the work on the " Middle Ages")
said that he believed a right in land was claimed in early times,
in Europe, by individuals or bodies, without even cultivation or
occupancy, but how far Wandering tribes could claim whole tracts
of country, without either, was a delicate question, although most
people were inclined to deny them such a right, as not being
founded on reason or justice.
In the chemical section, among other papers, was one read by
Mr. Solly, F.R.S., on a discovery of a new variety of caoutchouc,
applicable to "many purposes of the arts.
Mr. WiLsHAW, the Secretary of the Fine Arts, claimed the
paper as the property of that society, saying that Mr. Solly had
taken advantage of a communication made on the subject in 1843,
at a meeting of the Society of Arts, by Dr. Montgomery, Mr.
Solly being in the chair.
Mr. SoLLY rose to reply, but the President (Professor Graham)
stopped the discussion, saying the section were much obliged to Mr.
Solly for making up for the remissness of the society in not pub-
lishing the account of the discovery before.
This declaration was received by the audience with much ap-
plause.
In the medical section, the chief points of interest were lectures
by Dr. Leeson, on the influence of galvanism in promoting endrci-
more and exasmore ; Dr. Fowler on the mental capacities of
animals in reference to man; Dr. Laycock on the communicating
fibres of the brain with reference to thought and action, and the
introduction, by Dr. Bruoke, to the profession, of a new kind of
suture, adapted for bare lip, rupture of the vagina, the palate, &c.,
entirely superseding the old method

AERONAUTICS —Yet4tetday evening Mr. ChrtJe
-
Green, the veteran aeronaut, node his 300th ascent !rem the
grounds of the Royal Standard and Albert Saloon, at Hoxion. The
balloon, a large and handsome imchine, belonging In Mr. Ginn,
and well-known as the " AUDI)," segs exhibited ill the gardens
during the afternoon, partially inflated, to a very ?turner ous cern -
PanYs for whose amusement, while awaiting the ascent, a is::crlt
variety of entertainments hart been provides,. The juvermest were
fully occupied in roundabouts, ups and downs, and other stmt. en -
tertainments, in any portion of the grounds, while the mote re-
verend seniors were mous, d by the sinvig, dancing, tic., of a
theattical company upon an op n air stage. There was no time
fixed lot the. balloon ascent and the relate uo grouno tot complaint
rlbreach of faith on that read, but, about a quarter past reser),
Mr. Green Lod, his plate in the ear, ace( nip:sided by a gentleman
whose nacre was stated to be Murray, a in tuber of the medical
protession, and a:ter A very few trials Of its buoyancy, the MaChi. e
win, released trim its illoo-11.V3 and launched into the almosplioic,
bearing away, in a majestic style, in a oirsetion towards Kent. the i
exhibition attracted immense crowds to the tun b. urbood.
11 usirrar, Foti, CoN.suNI•TioN, nie eq..1)..01 a-
tion of the City of London yesterday intimated to the secretary of
this benevolent foundation that the Corn, Coal, end Finance Com-
mittee
fathd
h awarded the mien of 100 guineas in aid of the general
funds institution. The western wing of the beautifully- ;
designed fabric at Brampton will be ready for the transmission of ;
esU--blishbacat at Chelsea early next
the patients from the present
spring. The Right Rev, the BiEhop of Durhatnpreaches on behalf'
of t>lo bcgpitsl oA aim.* ant:

C 03131111 EL'S

(1-11!S_Di;,.Y.)

HOUSE OF LORDS•

1111121TDME aND PERTH.
The Committee on this Bill met to-day at eleven o'clock, the
Uuke of Buckingham in the chair.
Mr. Andrews, Q.O , opened the case for the promoters of the
Bit). Agents, Messrs. Spottiswoode.
The preamble of the Bill being unopposed, it was
declareti prOttlj.
Mr. FoßsyTit, for the Harbour Commissioners—The line of rail.
way was to cross a read at the south side of the river Tay
by a
hri.lgy, which was only proposed to be constructed at an elevation
of 12 feet in :me sections, and 11 in others. This elevation W
not sufficient for the purposes of the navigation, and the pnn,g"
asked that the Committee should have a clause in the Bill, binclinl
the parties to an elevation of 14 feet all through. The CpreP°OMO:
sl.iners would lose a great portion of their traffic by
the
line running parallel to a considerable extent with
il the harbo
enginur.
Mr. Stephenson, Mr. Graham, and Mr. Miller, ive •
were then called to speak as to the general merits of the line.
( LEFT SITTING.)

THE ABERDEEN RATIMA"', but after
This Commit was to at
some little delay the Noblenamed Lordssit aa emblednadJoun,ed too'three
o'clock, in consequence of the absence of one of the Commit:
'clock

ED XNEXTR,GII AND SAWICZ RAI ligritir-;
Ita•
On the re-assembling of the Committee Ibis morning, Sir ,
RrinEy appeared to oppose the preamble on behalf of Mr. Bruce, 0.
Lauglee, one of the landowners on the line. The
thieoennto the line traversing the property was, that as the ground haa..
laid out for ornamental purposes, and was susceptible 1
mould
greater improvement, the passing of the railway through
entirely destroy its beauty. and
Mr H . arket, landed proprietor in Fifeshire, was examined, a
Principal objec:
deposed that if the line were carried through the LanSiee es?:
e value of the property would be greatly depreciated, yes?:
Pa;
.though persons might be found to purchaJe the property for
investment, no one in his senses would buy the estate to reside on,
would be
asvetrmhyreg.rnpeoraiitsn.eglaen,dAni.pui.s,ance from the passage of the trains
duced if the proposed rwaails
in the opinion that the value of the land would be considerably e:
that the property might be improved,was
wnaeyxt examined He coincided entirely
increased. carri eda n
dt h riot
su gthal u e
Mr. Dundas, civil engineer, stated that he had examined the
sleixvteelesnoffetehte. Edinburgh and Hawick line, and had W( an
..; by Sir
Mr. Hope objected to the course of eXarnination ad.:lA.:ond. 1
M. Ridey, and stated that the present was a clue'ti°n °( co:-
orders ,land bad already bten settled by the Standing Orders'
Ictresequ°67ol;
mince. error o

_A Y' COMIMITTEES
(Y:-S'TERDAY.)

ritIUSE ;,1;' LORDS.
XZEDS AND WEST .7.7.IDZItiCr a XLVTII.7.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
Mr. HOP@ wa, proceeding to cro,s-eramine the winos on be-
half of a landholder whose proper) would be interfered with by
the line, but
The Noble CHAIRMAN intimated that the Committee wished
CoUnsel to confine their cross-examinati•in to points bearing upon
the immediate interest of the parties whom they represented, and ,
net extend it with a view of showing that a b...ttvr line might be
obtained.
A lengthened discussion ensued on this decision. and even'u clly
the Chairman ordered the room to be cleared. The Committee
baying deiberated for a considerable time, strangers were adrrutt:td,
When

The NOBLE CHAIRMAN announced that the Committee had come
to two resolutions, one rtlating to the mode of crNs.examinatioll
Of witnesses, and the other to he latitude to bt allowed to counsel
In addressing the Committee against the line. They were as
follows :—" That counsel be requested to Confine their cross-era-
kination to the particular int'..rest they represent, and that counsel
in addressing the CommLctee as to the respective interest they
represented be requ-ited to adopt the same rule."
,:ilThlae:vititoneofilish showing that
at some length by Mr. HOPE
that railways running in the neighbourhood
r
D:adford ought to be in the hands of the Leeds and Bradford
...°4lPany.
Mr, Charles Wood, engineer to the Liverpool and Manchester
Itilway, Mr. James Thompson, in partnership with Sir John
alliNeill,"ance Mr. Cubitt, corroborated the testimony of Mr. Hawke.
Shaw. •

Mr. Fairburn, a merchant of Manchester, proved that the
tradients on the proposed railway could be worked by the loco.
Illative without difficulty.
The Committee then adjourned till to-morrow.
VIM SOUTHAMPTON AND DORCHESTER
RAILWAY.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
lir. Brunel was called, and examined as to the proposed dovia.
',on of the lire from the New Forest. He was of opinion that the
4viation could be made without detriment to the favourable gra.
41ents on the line.
This was the case for the preamble, and the room having been
!eared, the parties were, after a short deliberation, called in and
"If°rtned that the preamble had been declared proved.
The clauses were then gone through, and the CHAIRMAN said
the Bill would be reported in due course.
The Committee then separated.

31WINPURGII AND HAWICH RAILWAY.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
kr. Miller, civil engineer, went through the engineering details
et the line, the principal points of which have already appeared in
/Ur report of the House of Commons' Committee on the Bill.
The witness was cross-examined with the object of showing
loot the estimates of engineering expenses were understated ; but,
14 his replies, he maintained that they were quite sufficient for all
114 Purposes of the line.
nin answer to a question from the Duke of Newcastle, Mr. Miller
'4 there would be no difficuliy in laying down a double line at
I°7 time, when it might be required. There was, however, no
414U0e in the Bill for such an alteration.
, Mr. M'NEth said the Company was quite willing to insert a clause
*9 that effect.
liThe CHAIRMAN intimated that a clause had better be drawn up
td submitted to the consideration of the Committee to-morrow.
should also be provided that the tunnels be constructed so as to
Ntnit of the laying down of a double line.
, Mr. M'NEic said the suggestion of his Lordship should be at.
waded to.
Mr.
Vignolles, civil engineer, wa. called, who deposed that he
Znsidered the estimates drawn up by Miller perfectly correct, and
Nolte ample for all the purposes of the line.
Mr. Mitchell, a railway contractor, gave evidence as to the rea.
;nableness of the estimates. He had been engaged on nearly all
railways in Scotland, and was at present fulfilling contracts
511 the North British line. The estimates of Mr. Miller, lie was
Re
Persuaded, would be! amply sufficient execution for the of the
ke.
The Committee then adjourned till to-morrow.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

G,.()U '
-04,02,7 AND CROVDOIX (A.TIVZOSPECEFSZC,

LINE.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edrlon of yesterday.)
h„!ir John Lovet, who stated that he was a landowner at High
e,;171, in the parish of Down, North Kent. He had carefully ex-
teti4ed that part of the proposed line which passed through that
leirisb, and had a very favourable opinion of it. It passed
aerielnally through land of a gotd quality, but which required ma.
114.rngt Manure was very dear in cousequence tit the esti), nse of
Oserkee• There was very little manure to be got in the neigh.
tsei;4od, and it was necessary to obtain
.it from other parts of the
tI.Y. He himself had imported guano for manure. Coal wigs
LY dear, and the poor of the neighbourhood were very much dis.
cid by the difficulty of obtaining it. The high price was en-
No? caused by the expense of carriage. Coal was now obtained
tab, Deptford, but if the proposed line were formed it could be ob.
se ctld from Chatham The cheaper conveyance would make a re-
°l3 of at least ss. per ton. Great benefit would be conferred
the
14 Inhabitants of Down by the cheap conveyance of agricul.
ii,ZProduce. This line would intersect no large property, but it
fir by a great many.
thi WHATELEY, who appeared for Lady Darnley, a petitioner
isettin the proposed line, cross-examined the, witness at some
` vvtoloaE, on the part of the London and Croydon Com-
4. then called
Ward, a landowner at Down; who corroborated Sir John
Ira evidence.
MERREWETHER, on the part of the South-Eastern line, then
"At bile, that Mr. Peto was now present, and was one of the witnesses
ljell`q he wished to examine on the subject of the estimates of the
eilth-r-asterri line. He wished to examine Mr. ,Peto at once, but
1,11:1 riot press it.if the Committee objected,
e CHAIRMAN assented, and
Peto, of the firm of Grissel and Petri, was accordingly
%In and examined. He had examined the line proposed by Mr.
sZalles, and had estimated the expense of constructing it. His
cates were founded on the plans and sections of Mr. Vignolles.
lti total expense of the proposed line, exclusive of land, stations,
ttlidings, would be 1,320,000/. He could not state the average
it per mile, as he had not considered the subject, but had
,1111.1 e his estimate for each item separately. He had omitted the
410 ltertas of land, stations, and sidings, as he had no data. He
it:4lY estimated the expense of works.
' Peto was then cross-examined by Mr. WHATELEY and Mr.
labs Sum
Cry WlLmotte then resumed the case on the part of the London
illicon line and called several witnesses to prove the benefit
derived from' the proposed London and Croydon line by the
kisnotaiKs of that part of Kent through which it passed, and the
t IY of the South-Eastern and North Kent lines.
Ne.j▪ Thompson, proprietor of paper mills at Bromley, spoke to
Nivaultage to the paper rnanufactco ies in the neighbourhood
%Would ensue from theiermation of the proposed line.
41ch et' witnesses were then called, and spoke to the necessity for
S. a line, and the superiority of this over the South-Eastern and
ent lines.
100 k eGt,• Boutcher, and Mr. Ring, coal merchants at Rochester,
, it) the effect the proposed line would have on the coal trade,
4454 the reduction in the price of coal which would ensue from
, [
kr ear l—
mode of carriage.
Nu: uattie, landowner at Rochester, late mayor of that town,
en examirad, and pave evidence in favour of the proposed
tt• terng cross-examined, he stated that Cobham Hall and
Wietti,, residence of Lady Darnley, was the most beautiful part
So 4t. and the pride of the neighbourhood. He knew that the
l'ne passed by the southern side of the park, but did not
1▪ jr It interfered with any part of it.
hmSki IVlLsrose then said that he had a number of witnesses to
41:e as to the same part of the line that had been spdren of
'w0k...," just examined, but ha would not call mem uiress the
wished it.
,iiCHAIRMAN thought it was unnecessary to examine the
11:144 alluded to.
WlLmotta consented to ornif the evidence He did not in.
41 call
k.ll44lany witnesses as to the line between Chatham anti
tk.N as it would be exactly the same as that of the .south-
's .11 line, the Croydon Company having adopted the surveys of
A.ltb-Eastern
ItRREWETHER said that it was impossible to find a better
itsVbe South. Eastern.
LlThYtte ILmorts said that the only advantage on the part of the
Noie,s.l! line was that it was atmospheric, and the South Eastern
LACIve.
%hel examination of several other witnesses on points of no
-merest, the Committee adjourned at four o'clock.

GROUP GG.
i 4 SCOTCH RAILWAYS.
"'ZkALSGOW, NEILSTON, AND BARR-
HEAD LINE.
111.(40nued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
Nt •cr
14ht th of Thornlie-bank, was the that witness called, and he
Lir uh,
tbe second stationru on proposed line would come
1: half
It ow. a mile of Tholie-bank,the which place was a little above
0,4.. The works there had been established above a century.
18 cloyed 1,200 people, the horse power was 3f42, and they.
t'o tons of coal per annum, and exported and received
Or, IP' of goods. The railway would be a great advantage.
lity •Stuart, M. P., was called to prove the feeling in the
0ne.1,44,7'01 respect to the rival lines. The direct line was the
Cwrotaittee then adjourned at four o'clock.

GROUP K.
NORWICH DISTRICT.
!Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
SlNC°flunittee, considering tha delay useless, proceeded to the
lti°o44. Of the clauses, several of which were passed without
lot47ts w__e In the progreso of discussion a few unimportant alte-
tittliz,!; Made in the clauses, and the Committee adjourned at
"vt until Wednesday, at twelve, then to proceed with the
le and Bury Bill.

GROUP L.
111llost
.• onl:SlVlOtrril ATMOSPHERIC LINE.
O° tinned from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
s°rue discussion it was decided that the counsel for the
Lbt,,letle line should call evidence as to the new matter which
144. J adduced by the opponents of the line, when
kt:4lo,lePli Cubitt was called by Mr. ALEXANDER, and produced
lehi-rWing the comparative cost of single works and single
bc" would be 1 279 930/ • for double earthwork, with
~s 4„ , , • ,
Ant .4n;ges and tunnels, with single line, the cost would be
'VI 6,..; while for the whole of the doubloline, everything double,
If i and for a double locomotive tine it would be 1,312,798/.
1014: all exclusive of the Chichester branch; for the expense
this ter there would be a cost of 122,2801., making a total
N:4dre4eUtting of 1,435,1781. According to his calculations the
Ile of and Portsmouth line would be 877,2321., making an
kikikte.i, 19,174/. per mile, and the whole value of the wages of
hkik gyeePers would be 34,5001., making a total of 19,228/. per (
"Itio„the atmospheric line the wole cost would b,582/. per t
iltittlttht Inelusive cf the gat e.keeperhs, tube, and elect,e ielstelegraph, star
ccos Id be 24,9151. a mile. According to Mr. Locke's 1,
Hr. would be—.
IS ti:;4l',° t
int Mr. Smith ohjectel to the reception of this evi-
-1410:1 't was ruled that ina:m,ich as this evidence contained
Ihtt„.'l4. It shape as to'conslitute new evidence, it was
4, Mr. Smith, having received an assurance that the
I'the be handed to his clients for examination and ells.
41% Sam4alerrl,rit
iNtorplUcla Wass were
arleclllfedltoairidemsatiant.ed that he hail heard
:dar,'" Say that thenten minut delay would interf Iv with the
liktq4ll-"R the whole of the day • but that was a mistake. He
ktkt the t:l3' Misapp, hended the 'diagram, for he had calculated
eein from Dorking to Gcdalming would pass at the
j~ Alfa n'ilca an hour, wh,n in fact the time proposed to
u mss seventeen minutes, and the rate i..as to be
0.,
4:-n
hour. He ha I also calculated the speed fr,,m
0440110,_?°dahning at 56 miles an hour, when ir, fact the
ivt.. to be occupied was sixteen minutes, and the
rebß h 0 41. miles an hour. With regard to the Epsom traffic
Vallth°ll Whatever, as all the Epsom trains could take the
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consequencesslhe m o
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them
obtainedincline
isl4.4l4lltielent to carry 120 tons, and the other way there would
g!ti he 3' Whatever in running distinct Portsmouth and Epsom
"14,1414 1",, ftld take the tonnage of Mr. Harrison, and allow
• °N4"' 50 tons would carry about 500 passengers. Now
b. a porer amply sufficient to dray 70 tone, and,

V;itli anything lixe judicious arrangement, each train woo''-el be
able to carry, on an average, COO passengers every ten minutes, or,
all viing for 600 as a core ingent, he could send 3,000 pas.
~, ngi rs per hour to Epsom. Ile had himself seen 10.0Lto r,asr,,li.
gers sent in four hours bv the Dalkey train. anti they had
since sent a greater number of trains than were sent on that occa-
sion, the Dalkey line being, on account of its curve;, a badly rorra
structed line, and its ruling gradient 1 in 115. while thu line to
Epsom had a gradient of 1 in 302; ails! was a tar better constructed
nue in every other respect. On the Croydon line the
empty carriages could be sent back by the locomotive line.
!
The stoppages might all be made up by ssikiing time
at the crossing stations, and b' an aCceleration of speed
on the journey, if the tatter were necessary. On this
line they could take a train of fifty tons with a vacuum equal to
nine Metiers 4 Mercury, arid this weight was therefore by no
meatie 5 maximum, and this vacuum, fur a rate of forty miles an I
brine, could be performed in thirty.two seconds. This had been
done on the Dalkey line, which was a worse one. The time once,.
sary to obtain a tiff: en.inch vacuum was from a minute and a half to
a minute and three quarters; and during the many experiments which
had been made throughout the whole day the time occupied for oh.
liaining it was remarkably uniform, the difference being only about
21 seconds on an average. An 8-inch vacuum would be the mean
vacuum Inquired through the whole line, and the extreme would
be 16 inches for all the steep gradients. To obtain the average
vacuum at the crossing places, which were the only places where
they would hive to wait for it, the time would be halt a minute, and
the minimum would be only 2 inches, and the time an imperceptible
quantity. But in this bethought he was in every instance far within
the mat k. In the case of a disabled engine the second engine would
make up for the difference. With regard to the difficulty, as stated
by Mr. Hawkesley was entirety wrong, and he did not think that
they wculd have any more difficulty than they had already en-
countered at Dalkey. He would not touch on the abstract propo-
sition of the similitude between suction and drawing, bet prat.
tically it was altogether different. In a minute and a half they
could obtain a traction power equal to 1,320 lbs. at a distance
of one srile and three-quarters from the engine. This
would be seen in a more striking manner if they were
to attempt to force this power of 1,3201b5. through a pipe already
filled with air. This had been attempted for the purpose of blowing
furnaces through pipes not a fourth of that length, but it bad been
discontinued, for it had been found that no pipes could withstand
the force applied to them. The fact was, the two pistons, the one
at the air-pump, and the other at the carriage, were just as if
they were connected by an iron rod, and just as the air-pump
would draw out the iron rod, and cut it off; piece by piece, the
piston behind following just so fast as the rod was
shortened, so was the column of air drawn off by the
engine, and allowed the train to be prope,led by the air
behind in proportion to the rapidity at the other end as soon as i
the via incrust was overcame at the other end. He therefore took i
an entirely different view of the matter from Mr. Hawkesley, and
contended that the column of air, instead of being attenuated,
travelled bodily up the tube, and that there was no differential
pressure whatever. And if there were no leakage whatever, he
contended that the two barometers, the one at the engine and the
other at the pump, would be precisely at the same height at the
same moment. But there was leakage, and it entered
at the piston and caused a continual flow of air towards
the pump, which occasioned such a disturbance as affected the
barometers to the extent of the disturbance which they exhibited.
He had ascertained this practically by standing under the bridge
at Kingstown. He heard the first stroke of the engine at Dalkey
the moment it was made, and at the moment he heard the blow
the mercury was acted upon. The Dalkey engine was anything
but a good one ; but wilh all its deft cis he had observed that there
was no more difficulty on the length of a mile and a quarter than
there was at Wormwood Scrubs, where the line was only
halt a mile in length. The speed which they had attained
on the.; inclined plane at Daikeyi with its burden, equal
to a power of drawing 150 tons on a level, was the rate
of forty miles an hour. Now, on a line of this extent there
war no possible opportunity of attaining the maximum speed,
while, from a great number of experiments which he had made on
the Great Western line, lie found that in the fast trains the usual
friction was at 8 lb. the ton, 320 lh., 15 lbs. for the engine, a
total of 225 lb., gravity 80 lb. Atmospheric resistance 420 lb
being on an area of 60 at the rate of 7 lb., making the total o

ractive power necessary of 2,475 lb. to draw a train weighing
fifty-two tons ; while the atmospheric principle, in con.
se itience of not having the weight of the engine and
the tender to draw, would be only 1,780 lb. With respet to the
tube, it had been stated that the cost would be much more than had
been stated. He found that the contract for the tube on the
Croydon line was 4,000/. per mile, while it was in reality being
laid down for 3,700/. a mile. According to Mr. Lecke's ca'cula-
tions the cost of the Guildforti line would be 17,839/... while that
on the atmospheric line would be 18,992/., giving in favour of the
Guildford line 1,155/. per mile, represented by 751. 15s. per annum
for interest Fur the working plant there would be a cost
for the atmospheric line—twenty-four pairs of engines, 150,0001.
being at the rate of 2,4871. per mile. On the Guildford line it
would be 72,5001., making a rate of 1,580/. per mile, viz. 907/.
in favour of the Guildford line, being an interest of 48/. 14s. per
annum. There was, however, an excess iu the working ex-
penses on the locomotive line, equal to 31/. per mile, or 1,860/.
per mile per year; if the trains ran only nine times a day. But
it the trains were iicriased to fifteen times a day, it would be
911, and the consequence would be a cost of 17,200/., equal to
2861. 18s. per mile per annum in favour of the atmospheric
line. In all these expenses he had omitted no contingency ex.
cept the coals, which would be much less than had been asserted,
as was proved by the consumption on the Dalkey line.
To Mr. Oswatv—Mr. Samuda said that the cost of a single line
would be 4,5001, and for a double one about half as much again.
The cost of engine-houses, crossings, and all the contingencies,
would be 2,4871, per mile, and for a double line there would be
wanted 5001. per mile additional. In constructing a double line
they would save a good deal of pipe, as they would have no pipe
down the inclination.
The Committee then adjourned till to-morrow at twelve o'clock