The Sun.
London, England, 1810-02-24 00:00:00

It was imposSible that the House could allow any
feelings so iosidiously created, to exist in his Ala-
jesty'S bosom, without asking him to coeenunicate
aunt. to'his people. if arty other document than
'the. Narrative already presentede existed', and that
such' a document did exist, he ,had a right to pre-
sume, since its existence was. not denied ; he bad also
a right to _presume that such a .docurnent contained
ch-arges,- the Narrative already produced containing
imputations which only stoppedshort of charges:This-
Narrative, completely at variance with-the Noble
Lord's own letters., and-with the Journal of the Expe-
dition, had, according to hiS Own-declaration,- been
prepared by him so long back as the 15th of:Oc-
tob.cr. 'lt had been reserved, however, till a 04
' opportunity offered for presenting it to his Majesty.
On the t 4.th Febitory, the Gallant General had
moved for the produdioliei that Narrative, a docu'
meat which the Notile.Lord had not even eon:Tat-
, nicated to his colleagues for their revision. Refus-
ing, as the Noble Lord had done; to answer the
questions proposed to him yesterday evening, the
House 4.-CommonS were called upon, on every
principle of duty to their.,SoVssreign,.and 0f:111514:e
to their countsv, to adopt.the precedent of the Gal -
lant.General,and to addreis Ins Ylirjesty for the pier-;
poie of endeavouring_ Id obtain any "further docu-
ment, if 'such existed. ln what office. the Right.
Hon. Gentlemen opposite
.must look for those do
currents, he knew, not.; but as, they agreed to the
recent motion of the. Gallant General,. he Iglt .A to
diem it; pursue the sante course by which, they be-
dame possessed of the. narrative . already pr. clueel,
;for every overt ad of • the King's, -Artist-cis sasere
responsible: •His:nijesty-cOld do act wreeg ;• and
O re Right Toe. Gvntte,meti opposite, nsustessrees 'ace
count for the a.ivice upon svinc!sehis Maj.-sty e
• induced toast, or they ouelli to Withdraw from the
situations which they occupied in his Majesty's
C uncils. He con, lodedty M e ing, thset an humble
Address. Be presented to his Majesty, pra)iag that
I,e would beigracieusly 'pl awd to erJer that thete
he laid btsfitre the Hoi.ie coPidS of all Reports, Me-.
meranda, Narratives, or Papers, submitted to hiS
Majesty by the Earl of Chatham, relative to, the late
Expedition. ,
Mr. Secretary RYDER bagged it might. be ciis-
tipctly understood that he did not question the right
of the House to-present an Adress Siutilar to that .
proposed by the Hon. Gentkeman.. Admitting. this
right in its'fullest extent, .he contended, that in the
exercise 'of the right, they must be guided by
the limits of diseretion. One of the last .sentences
litp
of the Hon. ' roan'sefseecia Would serve-as an
answer to iii receded it, The. kirioe Gentle-
man. had.saide- tit was t'or -I,s 7,,lsjese,=.s Mi M!..3; CI'S
to consider to -what office they would refer .in
search of the papers which be wished to be predeced.
There neithe'r was nor had been in any office under •
Government. He- wished to be understood—there
neither was nor' had been in any office uriderGovern-
ment any
..paper, report or narrative upon the sels-
jea in question communicated to a singietedividnal-
of hii Majesty's confidential--ssrvants, Other than
that now on •the table of the House,' any, that had
not been communicated to them before t nes t 4th
of February,. the day Oli Which ithadbeen preseet-
ed by Lord Chatham to hiseMajesty. Al! the,Ad-
dresses on the-stabjea similar to the. erese. t which
Kie House of Commons has)
,hitherto beets imlueed
to carry. to the Throne, were either - tor' the pro-
chiction of regularly otfieiar papers,- to elneidate. my:
, . .•...-
measure the expediency of whictrfhey queetioned,
or to ascertain the advisers of his Majesty on-any
such particular measure. H. did tint', deny the.
right. -of the • Cornmons to' apply, to the Crown in•
any other case in. which they might think fit so to
doe. but be„was perSuaded that the.motion of the
Honourable Gentletnan - was wholly Without' ex-
ample. For even supposing that mach a p..iperas
that descrihedjis the, Thin. Gentleman did . v:ttilliy.
exiSt, as it had never been cooltnonicate.,(l to
:Ibis
Maiesty's Ministers, be could net understand what
-possible reply, they conld advise his Majesty to make
to an Address fremthe "House of Commons under
' Such, circumstances. It would be in tact tts open
the private. escrutoire of his' Majesty. - Repeating
his admission that-the House had' a perfed right to'
address his Malesty On any subject open which they
naigliethink fit .to address him, he was compelled to
add that he eouldfiiid no just grounds upon which
the Ikon, Gentleman founded the proposition that
he had submitted to the douse..
Mr..PoNsoNsy declared, that if the Right Hone
.Geptlernan had noOnforrned the Hiitise that
.be
rose to oppose 'the motion of his Hein. Friend, add
if he bad listened: to the Right Hon. Gentlemain's
speech divested of that information, he-should-have
suspeaed that it was the Right Honoinable Gentle-
man's intention;syarmly toaupport it, for' there was
not a single argument in the whoie of the Right
'Hon: Gentle,Man'a 'speech, whit h- did riot tend to,
the establishment of _his . Hon. Friend's proposition.
The Rignslion. Gentleman-hadaold the House that
he did nordislinte the right Of the:Heuse of 'Com-
Aborts to address the Xing °pore the 'subject; hut to
that coritession he subjoined the declaration, that if
the House'lVere ndw to exercise that right, he did.
not know how hi; Majesty's Ministers could cot-sl-
yly with. the terms of the motion,"unle•s by search-
ing the King pritrate, ese-rutoire. Was this lan-
guaees—Was this dodrine for a Secretary of State to
his Majesty to hold to a BiitishHouse of Commons?
Did the Right Hon. Gentlemanea Cabinet Minister,-
not know wher.e, to find a paper de/iverid by,the
Commander in Chief of: an Expedition to, his Ma-
jesty.wit bout searching the King's private esertitoire?--
Did the' Right. Hon. 6' en tiernan think that such. a
paper way of the nature of a -private and, confidene "
-
nal cotrununicaticht ? If he did think so, then the
,Right • Hon. Gentleman :asserted the right of any
Commander of an 'Expedition, being a Peer and a
Privy Councillor, to approach hiS Majssty,. and to
make any representations which he chose, excul-
pating his own.eopdtt6l, 'and affeaing thecharaaer
of his brother officers, which representations were
to be prevented from coining before the. public.—
Such a right would -bo subversive 'of everyo,nrincis
ple of the British Constitution.. It .would destroy
the, responsibility of future officers ; for if one Com-
mander in Chief was • permitted to exerc!sejti his.
example might, with- impunity; -be followed by his.
successors. The Rigl,t Hon. Gentleman admitted
the right of the House so address his Majesty on the.
.
present fen..oocas He, Iliad been extretnely hounti=
:foleto them: --He dinitted their right; he only
denied the -possibility of their exercising it ! ."-The
Right 'Hon. Gentleman said, that the. House ought to.