The Sun.
London, England, 1817-11-05 00:00:00

afraid these lirtesfibtss militite,
hereafter.
Judge Cht.Y.-1 have told you there is no cog-
tiiiiiree in 'these Courts, P.'orno paint not penal-
ties Tor a 'tan's religions Opinion. I shall now
ask rut a 'few questiOns. - 'there is no doubt but
you were tried and acquitted'at Trim. How many
infortnations do you think were sworn against
-you—were there one, two, or three There
was one sworn against me by Michael Owens,
and another by the man at the bar.
knOw of any Other . I do not
of my oWn
.knowledge; but I heard, by com-
mon report, that a ,woman of the name of Dora
-Reynolds., otherwise Crosbie, swore informations
against me—this I beard in Newgate, but after-
wards heard that they. were not sworn.
Q. How did you discover that ?--=-A. I heard
that there was a paper sent up to town, purport-
ing to be her informations, bor.that she had, told
in the country that they were .not sworn to.;
Q Did you read the inforthations of Michael
Ovens ?—A. I did; and I think them much
stronger, more full, and more circumstantial,
than thOse of Warings, I did not harbour a single
vindictive thought against these wretches, when I
preferred Bills of Indictment against them.
Q. You were examined before the County
Grand Jury ?—A. I was ; and cross-examined by
them, in a manner I did not conceive they were
empowered to do.
Ca• Yet they threw out the Bills?—A. They
did, and more shame for them ; there were, two
other witnesses' names on the back of the in-
dictment, Martin M'Keon and Elinor Bertning-,
ham, who must have corroborated my testimony.
Q. Who is Elinor Bermingham ?—A. She is
sister-in-law to M'Keon ; she is the woman who
attends the front gate.
Mr. GOOLD.—How long•was M'Keon in your
service ?—A. He lived with me as wood-ranger
since March, 1812, but he had been a tasker se-
veral years before.
Q. How long was he a tasker I—A. About six
years ; he was over the talkers, according to the
custom of the country—l, perhaps, would not see
him for half a year at a time.
Q. When did you first see Michael Owens ?
A. The first time I saw him was in the dock at
Naas Assizes, in March, 1813, when in custody
for this robbery.
Q. You never saw him before, although he was
in your service ?—A. 1 did not see hint rind} then,
although be was working with McKeon. M'Keon
had the taskers under Isis immediate inspection,
he hired them and !said them, and I had no COM-
mimicatiop with him—all I wished for was, that
the work should be done.
Q. How long was he in your service before the
Mail robbery ?—A. About nineteen days.
Q. How many labourers did you employ?—
A. Sometimes eight or ten, and sonv..titnes twenty;
I left the choice of them to M`Keon ; I never gave
myself any trouble about them ; 1 mind my farm,
and all I cared for was, that they should be strong
able men, fit for the business.
Mr. GOULD.-1 don't doubt you, Sir.' When
did you know John Owens ?—A. I never knew be
was in existence, until 1 beard he was taken up in
March, 11313. Ile never was in my employment.
Q. You shewed him acts of kindness then—did
you not go bail for him in March last ?—A. Yes,
I and my son went bail for him, because 1 knew
he was innocent ; there were nine persons who
could prove an alibi; he was accused of robbing
a man of the name of Geoghegan. I bailed him
in March, 1817.
Q. Was it not very singular for you to take
such an interested part in favour of a man you did
not know ?—A. It was not : my disposition is,
wherever I can do a kindness I will.
Q. By going bail for a rubber ?—A. He was
innocent, be was no robber.
Q. Did you not hear that he was take-n up for
the robbery of the Mail ?—A. 1 did, but he was
acquitted.
Q. Was not Michael Owens, from the month
of February, 1812, to the month. of March, 1813,
working with you ?—A. He was, sometimes, but
not constantly.
Q. Surely you must have been interested for
him, when you attended at Naas on his trial ?
A. I only attended there to hear, with my own
ears, whether that he could be guilty of such a
crime.

Q. Don't yOu believe him guilty of being at
e robbery ?—A. On my oath, I do believe it.
Q. There were mail-bags found in the demesne
before ?—A. Never before since I came to Dan-
gan, but there were some found when it was in
the possession of Colonel Burroughs, and alsO in
Lord Mornington's time.
Q. Was there not a robbery in the demesne
since your time—do you remember one John
Doyle ?—A. There was.
Q. I believe he sued the county for the amount,
and you gave evidence on the trial %—A. laid ;
and they found a verdict in the very teeth df thy
testimony.
Q. What do you think of that ?—A. I do not
think it was much to their honour.
Q. And I suppose you think it was not much to
the honour of the Grand Jury who ignored the
bills the other day, in the teeth of your evidence ?
—A. I do, indeed; and the manner they examin-
ed and cross-examined me, was very shameful on
their parts.
Q. Do you recollect theJnage who presided at
Naas at the Spring Assizes, Jsl3 ?—A. I do; it
was Judge Fox.
Q. You made a speech to him ?—A. I did not
make a speech to him. I said a few words in
favour of Martin M'Keen, who was in prison,
and very ill-treated. The Judge asked was he in-
dicted : Mr. Rickey replied he was not, and handed
the Judge the informations—when, having read
them, be said, it was scandalous to confine any
man on such informations., and ordered hint to be
instantly discharged. I brought him home; he
had been double bolted.
Q. Were you ever in the County of Cavan ?—A.
Never but once, at the Spring Assizes, in March,
1814. I went there at the request of the mother
of Michael Owens, who said her son would be
hanged, if I did not go and give him a character.
She handed me a slip of paper, and begged my
pardon for taking the liberty. It was a Crown
summons. She begged of me to go and say that
I had been acquainted with him, and that he lived