The Sun.
London, England, 1817-07-11 00:00:00

PARLIAMENT.

ROUST OF LORDS, THURSDAY, JULY 10.

Lord floss (Earl of Glasgow), and Lord Grinstead (Earl of
Enniskillen), were respectively introduced by Lord Dynevar
and Lord Redesdale. Their Patents of Creation having been
read at the Table, their Lordships took the oaths and their
seats.

The Royal Assent was notified by Commission to the Ex-
therpier Bills Bill, the Irish Treasury Bills Bill, the Irish
Annuities Bi-11, the Irish Public Debi Bill, the Small Rents
Iliresc Bill, -the County Rates Bill, the Corn Importation
Dill,lthe—Mili-tary• and Naval Oaths Bilk the Mary-le-bone
l'Cecttay Bill, asul several other Bills.
The Commissioners were the Archbishop of Canterbury,
the Lord Chancellor, and the Earl of Shaftesbury.
. Johnson, from the Office of 'Chief Secretary for Ire-
land, presented accounts of the Emoluments of Offices; aril
Bullt v, from the Exchequer, an Accouznt of the Income
Cif,„Juid Charge upon, the Consolidated Fund.—Ordered
to
lie nekiti the Table.
The latter paper was., upon the motion of the Earl of Lau-
derdale, ordered to be printed..
. - POOR LAWS.
•

Tfie Lad of th RD E presented a:Report
from. the -Committee on the Poor Laws. His
Lordship obserVed, that, considering the nature
and importance of the subject, and the exatnina•
tion it .was: necessary to go into, it could scarcely
have been ,expected that the Committee would
sooner have finished their labours, less could
it .have teen expected that any legislative measure
caiell have been brought forward this Session,
founded upon such un investigation. He thought
it indeed much better that there should have been
noalegialatiVe'measure attempted this Session, time,,
wodhll.lo-W:: be given for the full consideration of
tat:subject,'-particularly' by those who had the
beat practical means of information ; and thus a
measure might be brought forward, calculated as
fir as-possible to meet the evil. The COmmittee
had used e'very effort to elucidate the subject, (hey
bad examined every one who came who were at
all•likely to, communicate information, and had
left no practicable. means untried fully and accu-
rately to investigate the-subject. Ile now moved
that the Report be printed.
1 be Earl of Lis, e. Raoul, spoke highly of the
conduct of the Committee (which he had attend-
ed as often as ais other avocations would permit)
who had collected a body of most valuable infor-
mation, as detailed in the evidence. He agreed
with his Noble Friend in thinking it much better
that no legislative meastire should have been
brought forward this Session, as the subject might ,
thus-undergo a full investigation during the re-
cess, and he trusted that those who had practical
information would doling that iniervarturn their
attention to it, in order that no suggestion might
be wanting to tender any proposed ineaswe bene-
ficial in its operation.
, The Report was ordered to be printed, and on
the motion of the Earl of Hardwicke a Message
was ordered to be sent to the House of Commons,
desiring a Copy of the Report of the 'Committee
of that House on the Poor Laws.
• FRAME-BREAKING.
Lord Viscount SIDMOUTH moved the third read-
ing of the Frame-breaking Bill.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE having expressed
a wisll to hear some grounds stated for the Bill,
Lord Viscount SIMIOUTH observed, that in the
year 1812 it had been deemed expedient, in order
to put a stop to the practice of Frame-breaking,
to pass an Act rendering it an offence subject to
the penalty of death. That Act was made tem-
pointy, and on its being about to expire, it being
represented strongly by Magistrates of the Mid-
land Comities that such a penalty alone could
operate as a preventative of this crime (which it
bad done whilst in existence), a Bill was brought
into Parliament for the purpose of continuing
it ; but in consequence of representations on
tae other hand, it was at length thought expe-
dient to try the experiment of a milder punish-
ment, that of Transportation. It was, however,
his painful duty to state, that after having been
tried for four yeats, this experiment bad utterly
and completely failed. This offence had, un-
happily, iu the course of that !reliat, been often
repeated, and in some instances accompanied by
circumstances of the most daring outrage, even by
attempts to commit murder. The Grand Juries
of the three Midland .Counties where those out-
rages were chiefly perpetrated, had in consequence
repro sewed that the only effectual way of repress-
ing these outrages was to re-enact the penalty of
death, and this, indeed, was the opinion of. all
those %vho had the best practical means of being
acquainted with the subject. It was the gracious
intention of his Royal Highness the Prince Re-
gent, if this Bill should pass into a law, to issue
it Proclamation, offering an amnesty to all those
who had been previously guilty of this offence,
with the exception of those concerned in the out-
rage at 'Loughborough, which was of the most
daring description, and accompanied by attempts
to commit murder. Under these circumstances,
lie trusted the Bill would have the effect of pre-
veuting the repetition of this offence, and also of
preventing Oa manufacturers from emigrating
front that part of the country.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE supported the Bill,
but in a qualified sense. He did it upon this view
of the question, that these outrages were not the
ctrtillitinn of the moment, or directed fronirrita-
law against any particular individual, but that
They beco systematically and deliberately car-
ried on for several years—that they were directed
a4ailist, machinery, without which the prosperity
of the country must altogether Jail, and against
the whole tabiie of the laws. It was in this view,
considerine t:!at under such circumstances the
laost triaing offence might become of great.im-
pertance when perseveringly directed to such an
object, That he supported this Bill. He could not,
liowever, but observe, that a long period had
elapsed since it had been discovered that the ex-
periniant of the milder measure bad failed, and
that it was so long ago as March last thatethe
Grand Juries :of the Counties of Nottingham,
Derby, and Leicester, had represented the neces-
sity of re-euactiog -the penalty of death. How,
then, did it happen that this measure should nor
liave been introduced till a period of the Session
when it was imposSible to give that mature con-
sideration which the importance of the subject
called fax ? He could not hut press this point as
one very nrltcrial, in every view of the subject,

but this protest lie WAS di•;pWel to support
the Bill.
The Bill was read a third time andpassed.
SLAVE TRADE.
fiord GRrNVILLC said he had to call the.attert-
tion of theii Lordships to a subject of aS - much
importance as any that under -any circumstances
could come before them. Ws Noble Friendliad
justly stigmatized the practice of introducing mea-
sures of impoitance at a late period Of the Ses-
sion, but the case to which he was about to ad-
vert was an exception, as the proper course un-
doubtedly was to wait until nearly the end of
the Session, in order to ascertain what .had.,
been done by his Majesty's Ministers, in order
to obtain the general and total abolition of that
inhuman traffic, the African Slave Trade. It had
been stated some years ago, in the discussions re-
specting the abolition by this country, that our
abolition would do nothing, unless other Powers
could be induced to join in it. But even with
the knowledge that not onelißinan being the less
would be torn from the coast of Africa, :that one
drop of human blood the less would be shed, still
ur
he would have pi eised the about inn
that we might be exonerated fronythOO o part,uilt r,
that g
horror of this detestable traffic ; if other Powers
chose to continue it, upon their heads be the
blood, we should be free from the stain—Aluch
had, however, happily been done to induce other
Powers to join in the abolition of this odious
traffic. France and Portugal had been induced
to abolish it, anti this had undoubtedly been a
great gain to the cause of humanity. They should
recollect, however, that if they did little, very little
would be done, that if they were feeble in their
exertions, trifling would be the result : it was
only by perseverance they could gain the advantage
they looked to, and which, for the strife of littma-'.
city, he trusted would ultimately be obtained. It
was also too true that this abominable traffic was
now cat tied on to a most enorinotis ex!eor, as
appeared by documents that had been handed 'to
him ; that it was carried on 'uncle'. the 1-16;gs and
by the subjects of Portugal, of France (in one
instance under the Dutch Flag), and of America.
But more than all was it carried on under the Flan;.
and by the subjects of Spain ; and it was indeed
a mortifying. circumstance, that the very spot in
Africa where we were Making the most praise-
worthy attempts to introduce civilization, had
been chosen by Spain for the purpose of intro-
clueing all the horrors of the Slave Trade, and
as it for the express purpose of breaking down
all the means so justly attempted for the pia.
pose of civilizing the natives of Africa, and
keeping them in a continued state of barba-
rism. It was a melancholy fact-, that this trade,
carried on under these circanistances, was con•
ducted in a way the most shocking to humanity.
In the course of the-discussion in. Parliament, on
the Abolition of the
.Slave Trade, whilst it was
under consideration Whether the trade should be
•abolished or not, all parties agreed in passing a
Bill for the purpose of doing away the horrors of
what was 'technically called the middle passage,
and by which the dreadful evils of this traffic were.
in some degree alleviated. But in. the way in
whictithis most inhuman traffic was now carried
on, the horrors of it were redoubled, there being
no check or .contronl over the inhuman op,
pressors of their fellow men. It was impossible
for any one in the shape of a human being, with
any of the feelings of a man, to read the accounts
of the atrocities committed in this way, without
shuddering at their barbarity. His Lordship here
read the affidavit of a British Officer NueadY
given) respecting the inhuman treatment of Slaves
on board a Portuguese vessel, which had been
captured, anti referred to documents which have
also been already noticed, respecting the barbarons
usage of Slaves on board Spanish vessels engaged
in this trade. That these inhuman outrages should
he continued was most afflicting to humanity,
whilst the maoner in which the trade was carried
on rendered it still more outrageous.- The vessels
employed ha it were armed for warlike purposes,
and it was too much to say, that vessels %vete to
be employed, so armed, to carry on a peaceful
traffic ; they were, in point of tact, engaged in
perpetual contests with British vessels, they were
armed for that purpose, and such contests most
lead, sooner or later, to actual hostilities. Under
such circumstances, and when the Allied Powers
had come to the determination of using all their
efforts to'abolish the Slave Trade, having also, as
they had done very wisely, interfered by way of
mediation to prevent hostilities between Spain and
Portugal, his Majesty's Ministers wteie Alliedtltdd
un-
doubtedly be justified in applying to
Powers for their interference to prevent those hosti-
lities between this country and Spain, which
must unavoidably -be the consegoence of these
continual contests with Spanish) armed vessels.
It was by means of efforts of this nature
that we must look to the final abolition of this
odious and inhuman traffic, and he trusted no
-effort would be wantiog to achieve this most de-
sirable object. did not mean to impute the
least neglect, upon this point, to hiS Majesty's
Ministers, hot it was absolutely necessary that
Parliament should not relax in their efforts in this
cause of humanity. Ilis Lordship concluded by
moving an Address to the Prince Regent, Stating
all the evils arising front the carrying the Slave
Trade in the manner in which it was now carried
on, and praying that every effort might be used,
by applying to the Allied Powers, and otherwise,
to obtain the total and general abolition of this
odious and inhuman traffic.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, he did not believe
that he should have troubled their Lordships with
any observations on the present occasion, but that
he was afraid an inference might be drawn from
his silence contrary to that which be wished to
go forth to the publiC. He should merely, how-
ever, say a few words, and that chiefly for the
purpose of expressing his assent to-the-Address of
the Noble Lord. lie never entertained but one
• opinion respecting.„the making the abolition el-
fectual—that • it was 'accessary that the measure
shotd.dnot only be adopted by Great Britain, but
acceded to by all other nations. - Much, however,
still remained .to be done of importance, to
in-
duce the Powers who.still continued the trade to
agree to its abolition. - There was one consola-
tion, however, in the consideration of this
phiapa
s qiiiices:
tiou—that whatever evasions•eiisted, a
ble to the flag of other countries, there, was no

THE SUN.

1101,EM Qtl IS I)ICL'ItE F.N.LSUN( AL'I)C:IT*

LONDON,
FRID.4Y, JULY 11, 1817.

We believe it is now certain that Parliament
will be prorogued to-morrow.

The report of a speedy Dissolution of Parliament
has been revived, but we k u(?u, not at present
upon what foundation.

The Paris Papers of Tuesday last, which Were
due this morning, have not come to hand.

THE FUNDs.--The Price of Stocks still con-
tinue to advance; Consols were this morning
done at 81 for this Account, and 81 ki for the Au-
gust Account. Money pours in from every quar-
ter, and the orders received by Brokers to buy,
even at this high price, are greater than ever was
known. We have no doubt, as we before stated,
that Consols will be done at 85 before the August
settling day.

The Boston Daily Advertiser of the 17th ult.
contains the following article respecting the Bra-
zils By a Gentleman who arrived at Holmes'
Hole, and passed through town yesterday for
Salem, we have received information from Per-
nambuco to the 17th of May. It represents the
state of the new republic as much less prosper-
""s than the previous accounts, and entirely con-
tradicts the information lately received by way
of Chatleston,
of the joining of the other Pro-

vinces of Brazil in the Revolution. 011 the con-
trdi y, the city and province of Bahia were engaged
with great zeal in support of the Royal cause, and
the people were volunteering to aid in the reduc-
tion of Pernambuco to their allegiance. And from
Rio Janeiro, the capital of the kingdom, no infor-
Illation had been received. The people of Per-
nambuco appeared to be much less satisfied with
their prospects titan they bad been for some.
weeks."

THE SLAVE TRADE, that disgrace to human
nature, is so resolutely taken up by both sides of-.

both Houses of Parliament, that its final extinc-
tion may be hoped for in due time. All civilized
States must revolt with horror from such an exe-
crable traffic ; and therefore our Readers will see
with pleasure, that, on the motion of Lord GREN"
VILLE, an Address to the PRINCE REGENT was
agreed to last night in the House of Lords, simi-
lar to that moved by Mr. WILBERFORCE the night
before in the House of Commons. But the de-
claration of the Earl of LivEaPool, last night is
well calculated to increase the satisfaction of all
the friends of humanity on this subject, for his
Lordship stated, that active negociations are car-
rying on, which,. should they produce the effect
desired, Ministers would deem it their duty to
submit to Parliament.

The Letter from Lieutenant TERRY to the
LORD MAYOR, which is written with a degree of
good temper and politeness highly creditable to
him, effectually refutes the statement of the latter
respecting the late Riots, and fully confirms that
given in the House of Commons by the Right
Honourable J. H. ADDINGTON. The Answer
from the LORD MAYOR is by no means a justi&•
cation of the manner in which he described the
transactions in question, and appears indeed to be
a virtual ackno►vledgment of his mistake.

PARIS, JULY 7.—M. BENJAMIN CONSTANT has
again exerted his talents as a political writer in
aid of the freedom of the press, at which terrible
blows have been aimed during the trial of causes
relative to suppressed publications, by t tie doctrines
and the practice of M. [lllB, M. Vatimenel, and
other King's Counsel, before the Tribunal of Cor-
rectional Police, and before the Royal Court. If-the
decisions which have been come to in these trials
should be drawn into precedents, the liberty of
the press would cease entirely to exist in France.
" Questions on
In the Pamphlet which M. B. Constant has just
be demonstrates,, that the principles laid down by
tphuebleixsii'sTilt;gu'L"elegriSltahteiontiotfle theo Press in France," of
the King's AdvoCates are subversive of all the liberty
of. the press, and contrary to the intentions an-
nounced by the Government, The author con-
chides his pamphlet by saying, "The liberty of
individuals is suspended. The journals are in the
hands of authority. The two Chambers interrupt
.the right of petitioning. The liberty of publish-.
ing books is the only kind of freedom that re-
mains to us. I must endeavour to defend it."

CHARGES OF TREASONABLE PRACTICES.—Ou
Tuesday several olthe persons in custody on char-
ges of treasonable practices underwent examina-
tions at the Secretary of State's office for the Home
Department. Benjamin Whitely, from Hudders-
field, who was brought to London •on Saturday
evening by a King's Messenger and a Bow-street
officer, was taken to the office by Mr. Adkins, the
Governor of the House of Correction ; when, after
he had undergone an examination, be was sent off
in the custody of a King's Messenger and a Bow—
street officer to Salisbury prison. Orders were
given at the same time to remove Mr. Knight front
Reading to Salisbury prison, in the custody of
messengers and Bow-street officers.

The-Duke of Youx transacted military business
with the PRINCE REGENT yesterday,
Yesterday the Duke DE CHATRE waited upors
the PEINCI: REGENT at Carlton-house.
Yesterday morning the Earl of Powis waited
upon the PRINCE REGENT at Carlton-house kb
announce the death of the Duke Of NORTHUNI.
BERLAND.

Yesterday Viscount CASTLEREAGH and Earl
BATHURST had audiences of the PRINCE REGENT'
at Carlton-house.

Lady MA R Y 1-',1.0el Nes
pfSteOci,Nt
eßo,Yni
London
oilIll'(.1ii flueanitnoyereitl?:ltieteee(rdineab(nyiyiivlaieltrlostavlllll:yoe
and deeply lamented Mr. PoNsotiev-, is so much af.
fected at the loss she has saitained' in his death,
as to be considered dangerously ill.
Lord HOLLAND, With a pretty
yesterday
enumeroussi.day insuoirtie:
arrived at Ghent on SNactclulEriLedta.yojßilisatsitc,eionftclisbtaerrg.e
from Bruges. After stopping for a day or two at
Ghent, his Lordship proceeds to Spa, where he
means to spend the season,;
bßh
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nnKiolgia,rtitt.)geiti'l(sgs)
iC:ritoili,urlinn,aii.steoll,,,iiAlaelsni
ttpli,vi
liaCacsl(tioatDittszti a-e,
cellor of the Duchy of Cornwall, Was swoforin.
the
dnibEc;ivAelniDontylTsAiuellitit:
before the tLhiencLool I,:ps7iCntinA,G
Monsieur TALNIAO,I: ackcimonot:tgaannie,
Netherlands.
t Mh
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of
his
family,
army when very -Young. He was a Brigade
Majorguis he(ai at the
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but his health being much impaired, he wa,;
watws twelve
obliged to retire front the service. lie' de:,
scendetl, by his mother's side, from Sir
Turbervill, one of William the Con►queror's
Knights, who first founded the Abbey where- his
posterity have continued during a period of so
litany centuries. -

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