The Sun.
London, England, 1844-02-26 00:00:00

CORN•LAW MEETING.

&meeting was held at Guildford on Saturday, for
She purpose of adopting4neasuses to oppose the pro-
ceedings of the Anti-Corn-law League. It may-• be
necessary to state • that a great number attended who
did not approve of the abject of the meeting. Among' those present • *ere;--4. Trotter, Ftsq., M.P. ;R. D.
Mangles, Esq., M.P, ; Colonel Delap, Capt. Prom',
Capt. Wright,. C. Cooper ; Esq. (Mayor of Guildford) • C.
Barclay, G. Best,- J. Bonsor, IL Currie, 11. Drummjind,
11: Gates, It. Goldhawk, jun., J. Ware, W. King, T. Lothdi, G. Marshall, -Geo. J: Pardon, J. P. Shrub, E.
Uptierton;; &C., ` and.. between. 400 and 500 tenant.
fartnerk It.'wei a very 'uproarious meeting, the mono-
polistiwishing to carry everything their own way, and
the friends of free-trade. equally determined to oppose
them—. Ntuabers, however, •• prevailed, and the usual
sliding•scale:resolutions were carried: Mr. Mangles,
the Member for the:borough, made. an excellent speech
against
it G the
GABS resolutions.
_proposed
the appointment of a am.
mittee to act in defence of the agricultural intereet,lind;
to correspond with the other societies in the country
'formed - for the same object'. - -
Mr. Pizcz advised the meeting to be careful how they
adopted this resOluti6l4 far he declared it illegal,
who Assented to it = iiiclerecl- themselves liable to be in-
dicted.—(Langhter.) He added that Mr. O'Connell-was
indicted under similar circumstances; indeed, his offence,
he considered, was not sci bad as theirs.-,—(Laughthr.)
Mr. PasE. seconded the resolution, and said he hoped
it would go forth . that, no- candidate would stand any
chalice at a future election if he did not pledge himself
to,the principle of protection to agriculture embodied In
the sliding,sCale.
A petition, embodying the resolutions . was - then
agreed to and a motion carried, that it should be pre-
sented to both Houses of Parliament.

HAMBURG}, FLANDERS,,, AN D
DUTCH MAIL.:

SWEDEN AND NORWAY.
STOCKHOLM, FEB. 13.—According to the Afield)lad
the King had a very restlesd night, from the 11th to the
12th, with great pain in the leg. Notwithstanding his
weakness, his Majesty had sufficient 'Strength of mind, in
the latter days of, last week, to listen to • the-articles in
the journals, and to have' the bulletins read to him before
they were published.
In the-proclamation of the Norwegian Government,
announcing the transfer of the administration to the
Croirn Prince, reference is made to: a resolution of 'the
Diet of May 4, 1818, so that the dotibta which were en
tertained here, whether the transfer would be legal in
that kingdom, are removed. The cold increased here
_from the 9th to the 10th inst., from 18 to 25 degrees
(about 32 to 45 Fahrenheit below free king.).
We learn from. Gothenburg that M. Axel Malmlen,
merchant in the city, has failed for 137'000 dollars.
COPENHAGEN, FEB. 17.—The Fadraland announces
that AS number of the day before yesterday has been
seized, and that it contained an article, copied from the
Augsburg Allgerneine Zeitung, Which defends the right, of
Denmark to levy the Sound dutieS. - • •
CASSEL, FEB. 11.—Some surprise was tensed here by
the circumstance that in the genealogy of the Electoral
Rouse of Hesse, which is always annexed -to the official
calendar for the Electorate of Hesse, the Elector Wil-
liam 11. is stated this year to be " s widower since 13th
Fehruary, 1843," and that no notice is taken of his third
marriage. We learn that this omission has given occa-
sion to a complaint on the part of the Elector, which
Privy Councillor Wohler, who has arrived it.Cassel from
Frankfort, was commissioned to support.
BRUSSELS, FEB. 21.—The average price of-wheat last
week was 16f. 83c., and that of rye 10f. sic. The duties
on importation and exportation, therefore, remained as
before.

The Dusseldorf Gazette has stated that the subscrip-
tion for the construction of a railway from that town to
the Belgian railway, had been filled up, as it were, by
enchantment. We now learn from the Elberfeld Gazette,
that the persons desirous of partaking hi the enterprise
were so numerous, that it was necessary to fix 10,0Q0
dollars as the maximum, and to reduce to that sum those
which exceeded it. Soon after the deed was signed, the
share were sold at lf per cent. premium; andthe town-
hall seemed to be transferred into a stock exchange.
THE HAGUE, FEB. 23.—The Central Section brought
up its report on the law for regulating the claims n( the
late King, the •discussion of which was fixed by the
Chamber to follow that on the income-tax and the vo-
luntary loan, and that on the law for completing the
ways and means for 1844 and 1845, and for discharging
the debt to the Commercial Company. The debate on
the tax on property then commenced.
PIRACY IN THE INDIAN ARCHIPELAOO.—We extract
the following particulars from the litest journals received
from Java:— •
The Resident at Riouw states that news had been
received from Sekana, a noted retreat of the pirates, that
several vessels had been equipped to exercise piracy,
from the coast of Malacca to Pailoc-Pizatig. In an ac-
tion between these pirates and the Eriglish steamer
Diana, one of the chief of these banditti was killed, tw9
others taken prisoners, and the vessel captured. The
others retreated into the river Tjaeny, sear Tjambi, on
the east coast of Sumatra. •

An attempt by the Dutch authorities to seise the
pirates was at first unsuccessful, but his Majesty's brig
the Windhond, the Janas schooner, and aix cruisers
have been sent after them. They are' to blockade the
river, and punish this nest of thieves as it.merits.
The master of a native vessel of Serawak in Borneo,
who has arrived at Pontianak, relates that at the begin-
ning of July three English men-of-war had anchored off
the river ; they were to undertake an expedition against
the pirates of Dayak. Accounts had been received that
the result of this expedition was that several Kampongs
in the district of Seribas had been taken; about 100 ha-
bitations of Malays and 30 of Dyaks, each 150 feet in
length, and several of these vessels were destroyed.
This news, however, needs confirmation.

The Malays and 'D yaks, it is said, made a vigorous
resistance, but suffered very severely from the well-di-
rected fire of the English, who lost ooy two men.
_ _ - •

ATTEMPT AT Parsike.—On Monday night last, the
neighbourhood of Brampton Moor was thrown Into great alarm by
the report that a man had poisoned himself. It appears that John
Bond, a collier, was not on the best of terms at home with ht,
spouse, so be determined to try her affections. He went to Chee-
terfield, pledged his handkerchief, and bought some arsenic, anti
then returned home. Listening at the door, he heard his wife ask
a neighbour who the child was like ? The neighbour pronounced
its eyes like its father's, on bearing which he "bounced" in, and
exclaimed, " Yes, you will see how my eyes will be in the morn-
ing." He went into the kitchen, got a cup and mixed the poison ;
after which he threw the paper on the house floor, and pretended to
drink the contents, and then went to bed. His wife took up the
paper, and seeing " poison" printed upon the label, immediately
gave the alarm, and messengers were despatched for a doctor, who
immediately returned with Mr. Jones, surgeon. his assistant, and
Mr. Oallimore. The poisoned man, perceiving expenses incur-
ring, protested against the operation of the stomach-pump. Mr.
Jones informed him that it was useless to make resistance, and
called in' four stout men, who held him while two others forced
open his mouth, and as soon as they introduced the tube he bit off
the end; but they of went through the operation, and to
their great surprise not one particle of poison could be found en
the stomach. The fact is, he had merely pretended to swallow the
ingredients, but left them in the cup !--Derk Itepsttrr. •
Vary SPOKEN Wrnr.—Eleanor, Chapman, of Liver.
pool, bound to Valparaiso, lat. 7, lon. 40; blander, of Lon-
don, lat. 22, lon 34, by the Netherlands barque, Pollux, —,
Hector (ship), of New Bedford, 25th ult., lat 4 N., lon'. 22 W. ;
Tanjore, Calcutta to London, lgt inst., lat. 15, lon. 28 W,
by the Orion, arrd. at Falmouth. Mertoun, Bombay to Li-
verpool, Nov. 22, lat. .24 S., lon. 6E. ; Lady Mary, Mau-
ritius, London, lat. 36 S., lon. 23 E.; Margaret, of Bristol,
for Algoa Bay, Dec. 15, lat. 34 S., lon. 26 E. ; Nestor, Mau-
ritius,:to Liverpool, 16th ult., lat. 2 N.,. lon. 25 W. ; John
Campbell, Liverpool to Africa, 19th • inst., lat. 52 N.,
lon. 10 W., by the Montrose, arrived aiLiverpool. Ganges,
Bordeaux to Calcutta, Oct. 20, lat. 17 N., lon. Brit:s.;
Cambrian, Calcutta to London, Dec. 21, lat. 35 S., lon. 17 E. ;
Pollux' Batavia to Amsterdamrilth ult., lat 8 S., lon. 14 W.,
by the Brooke, arrived at LiterpoOt. NePtune, Of Bristol, 9th
ult., lat. 44, Jon. 10, with 10-srbirloretopmast and maintop-
gallantmast, .by the Boyne, arrived at 14.verpool. Johanrke
Maria, Rotterdam. to Batavia, Oct. 24, near t.be.latter port;
Jenne Edmond; ZlOurbon to Nantes, Dec. 23, lat. 18 S.,
3 W. ; Zemannahop, Amsterdam to Batavia, 9th nit, lat. 4
N., lon. 23 W. ; Allida, Amsterdam to Havannah, 26th, ult.,
lat. 32 N., lon. 26 W., by the Admiral Van Hemakirk, arrived
in the Texel.
SmouLan CIRCuMSTANCH.—The quiet little town
of Wantage has been in commotion for the past week, owing
to a veryinteresting and lady-like girl, about 14 years of
age, having been brought there by Old llarrod (who travels
about with besoms), and given up -to the constable. It seems
that Harrod took up the young lady in his cart at Buckland,
seeing that she was nearly exhausted, and her clothes very
dirty, and finding she gave an odd account of hirself, he very
.
properly handed her over to the custody of Jones, who pro-
vided her with a bed and supper at a small public-hease, and
the next morning mentioned the matter to his sister, the
kind-hearted good-natured landladyy of the Bear, who stmt for
the girl to her house, and had her provided with clean
clothes and every necessary. She was soon visited by the
Rev: Mr. Hewlett, Mr. Ormond, and several • ntlemen, who
from her ingenuous-manner, her evident breeding, and
.education, with her intelligent replies to t sir questions, soon
'took a great interest in her behalf. It appeared that the young
lady had from some cause run away, from ber friends- in the
neighbourhood of Bath, whose names she would not mention,
and had been walking for two days last week in the cold and
severe weather, without going into a house, and 'with only a
short supply of biscuits in a bag, and had actually slept
under the hedges for two nights; and when she arrived at
Wantage her dress bore evident marks of what she had gone
through, and her little feet were dreadfully swollen, and it
is only a wonder that one of such tender years did not die.
Sir. Ansell took the young' lady-to his own house, and under
.the kind treatment of his wife she soon recovered the effects
61 her trying journey. It seems she made a disclosure of the
name of her near relations and friends to Mr. Ansell, and on
Tuesday a clergyman arrived from Lincolnshire, whose name
a few years since came very Prominently be.fOre The public,
in consequence of a melancholy event wllkh occurred in
Middlesex, and claimed her as his daughter, and 'it turned
out that she had been adopted by another clergyman resident
in Bath, and froth some fancied cause of ill-treatment by his
housekeeper, started off on a wild-goose chase to London, and
it is fortunate that she fell into such good hands, and was
restored,after week's wonder and excitement, to herfriends:
--Berke Chronicle.

A notice has been poit,a up at Boulogne, stating
that the COlnTnisaitrY of. Maritime -Inscription has-been in-
formed by "the consular agent of France at Brighton, that
eight fisbmg-boats, from various parts of France, had peen
arrested for being found Within the English fishing-lines,
without: either blue flag or streamer, and contrary to the
treaty of 1839; and that with great difficulty the consular
agent had prevailed on the English authorities to let them
go without subjecting them to fine or imprisonment, as the
case warranted; but, that hereafter no such indulgence was
to be shown to any vessels taken in similar Circumstances.
NOVEL REWARD.—Mr. James rolla h
Pollard lost,
won
Monday last, two half-sovereigns, which, on inquiry,
troeasown.n tionb:rl
di
toer h a (1;1 been
gain
h ifsoulnostd byan cuer taet ihneperson
engaged
the
the
icnrgie,r,
ntoesar the Townfollowingnnouncethenial, oro hnaoitfi.cesol:;e'iLosgns.t,
mthley
person
having found the same, and will bring it to the crier; shall
receive one pound fire shillings reward.- The same, in pro.
portion, will be paid to any person Ivho,-bas found one of the
-half-sovereigns. " SUJECttitiOrily&i4 tbo.llloloisy We. lion
produced, and the fortunate finder received 11b. ef eclat am
53. in money,—,Arorthamptax Mercury.

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• SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOtRNALS.
• FROM THE EVENING PA SRS OF THIS DAT.
• GLOBE.—Sir lobert Peel has just made another
stand, 'and it is a stand by which he will one day fall,
.- for he stands now upon the Irish Church. Of the sin-
, verity with which he does so we make no doubt, nor
have we any fault to find with his motives. It
.
is quite true, as he says hiriisclf, though in
i• rather more words, that he cannot afford to
- change again. He has already, by one con •
• cession, lost Oxford, his early pride—he will not
• forfeit Tamworth, his remaining boast : and as Tam-
*oral is to Oiford, so will be the character for con-
sistency which he may still hope to gain, to that which
he once posssessed. After ally as a matter of personal
". „feeling, he is right :to 'make the most of his oppor-
• trinities, such as they are ; and hence it is that he will
, atick to the last to his Irish Church, that "dear ruin"
which he has helped to - make, and as he tells us
also at the same time, to his English Chancellor
—another striking proof of the desperate fidelity with
-trhich he will henceforward adhere both to his mea-
sures and his men,-. His constancy, too, in the last
instance, is brought out in bold relief by contrast
-with the very opposite conduct of the Whigs towards
- 'One of their Chancellors—poor Lord Plunket. We
would not willingly speak hardly of him, but the un-
,-,triendly praise of Sir R. Peel compels us to say, that
with all his talent, even before his incapacity became so
°notorious, he was the worst Chancellor that either
Ireland or England had seen since the days of Lord
- Erskine. We speak not as partisans, or we would not
have cited the latter name. Lord Plunket, however,
had, in an eminent degree, that merit which Sir
Robert Peel appreciates the most in a judge • and if he
read the debate of Friday night, how much he must
have regretted that he was not born either a Tory or
a Scotchman ? Even as it is, we wonder that Sir R.
. Peel did not, in his own peculiar way, show his sense
of merit in an opponent by offering to make him
, either a Master in Chancery or a pro-Vice-Chan-
cellor, as he did offer to that really eminent judge,
and most judicious though unobtrusive, politician,
.Lord Cottenham:who had, we thought; done his
-duty in his own sphere, both too modestly and
too° well to have been singled out, as he was
-by a political adversary, as an object of that
'which we will make bold to call the most un-
paralleled instance on record of official im-
pertinence. But to return to the Irish Church,
which, like the late Irish Chancellor, will take no
'hints, and will not retire even upon a pension, except
upon compulsion : it seems certainly to be a little
less near to its end than we had thought it to be
before the late debate; for it is new proclaimed, in
the hearing of all men, that Sir Robert Peel will not
give it up, that Sir James Graham will not betray
It, and- more than this, that Lord John Russell
will not attack it in right earnest. As the
leader of a. party which may perhaps not very
long be in opposition, Lord John Russell may be
right in forbearing to connect himself to measures
which, as the head of a new Government, he might
not be able to carry out ; but we who are not re-
strained by any such considerations, and who claim
the right of saying what we think both in season and
-out of season,. do not hesitate to say that the time is
come, and' is not gone by, as some people sup-
-Pate, for giYing up the Protestant Establishment
in Ireland, that is—for taking from it at once,
with the reserve only of existing life interests,
so much of its property as exceeds the proportion
which the number- of its Members bears to the po-
pulation of Ireland. This, or something like this,
wilL•bo,- at some- time or other, the inevitable
. ea.' This has been' at all times since the in-
vasion' of the Irish Protestant Church, the only
j'ast -course ; 'and never, we think, have the rea-
sons
,fol• doing it once been, so urgent and impe-
lions as they are now. We do not say that this
of itself would do much for Ireland ; but it is the
only thing that will give us a chance of doing any-
thing; as it affords the only means of acting upon the
people by ensuring the co-operation of their leaders
and advisers. We speak not of their chief movers
vt present, but •of their natural and habitual
'leaders and advisers—the Catholic gentry and clergy.
The difficulty of carrying such a measure through
Parliament is, we apprehend, very much overrated.
Who'Would have thought, three months before the
introduction of the Catholic Relief Bill, that it would
have passed the House of Lords bya majority of more
than a hundred- ? And so we think it would turn out
now,,,if-tHe question were well broughthome to them,
ttad the Englishpeople are too sensible and too just to
care so much about the Irish Church as those who claim
to represent the religion of the country would have us
believe. They require but a little time and a little
pressing to remove their scruples ; and if Mr. Cobden
eould, in the course of his travels, occasionally spare
ti* bye-day 'to enlighten them, as to the real state
'of the case, the business would soon be done. At
tiny rate, we believe that it is in the power of
Lord John Russell and those who act with him, to do
it ; and whatever deference we may feel for the feel-
ings which bid them refrain from doing all that they
might do, we do not hesitate to say that if the Irish
Church exists in all its solitude of ascendancy five
yeari hence, it will owe it, though it may not choose
to own it, to
,the forbearance of Lord John Russel
and his friends.

ISTAND..A.RD.—The Morning Chronicle affects
to admire the tone of Sir Robert Peel's speech. We
admire it unaffectedly. We think that the
Premier took his line of argument upon the
ChutA question in the very- bee. taste, and with
the 'soundest jtidgment, and indeed sound judg-
Ment, rarely differs from good taste. Our con-
temporary, however, while admitting and admiring
the. Right Honourable Baronet's premises,
_quar-
rels with his coriclusion—namely, that the esta-
blished united. ChUrch must be supported without
deterioration and without a rival. This is some-
what repugnant to logical rule; granting the pre-
mises, . the conclusion legitimately drawn from
these: premises •is 'usually taken as granted also.
.But we see where the Morning Chronicle has
beviilslered itself, it- puts Sir R. Peel's reference to
the-creed of Roman Cathelics generally, for—the
creed it is not, but—the abject subjection of the
liolitical Roman Catholics, for which Sir H. W. Bar-
Mr. More O'Ferrall, and Mr. Sheil spoke ;
the, hitterare, however, as 'regards Roman Catholics
generally, but a minority, and as regards intelligent
Roman Catholics; a truly " miserable minority."
In-the Premior's reference to the addresses of the
operative Protestants, he did not condemn men for
the expression of their opinions, but he complained,
and with reason, .of their inadvertently taking a
course which might seem to commit the executive
to these opinions, or compel them reluctantly to
treat those taking that course with less kindness and
respect than they .really entertained for them. Was
there any desertion of Protestants in tnis ?

.MPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

(THIS EVENING.)

H OUSE OF LORDS.
The LORD CWINCELLOR took his seat on the Wool-
wick at Five o'Clock.
REPEAL OF THE UNION.—THE CATHOLIC
KIJESTHOOD.
-The Marquis et NORMANBrsaid that .he wished
to,say a few words in reference to a statement which
had been made by the Noble Marquis opposite (the
Marquis: of Westmeath) in the course of the late de-
bate on the state of Ireland ; namely, that a poor
priest, who had refused to assist in collecting the re-
peal rent, had been suspended in consequence for a
month by his bishop. He tthe Marquis of Nor-
manby) felt it right both to the Noble Marquis op po-
site and to the Right Rev. Gentleman to
whom the
statement referred, to mention that he had received a
positiVe contradiction from the Right Rev. Dr. Cant-
well, the Roman Catholic Bishop of the diocese where
the occurrence was said to have taken place, stating
most distinctly that no such thing ever occurred, and
that he believed that no Roman Catholic bishop would
beguilty of such an act.
The Marquis of :WESTMEATH said that he was
obliged to the Noble Marquis for giving him the ear-
nest intimation of the contradiction he had received
to the statement which he (the Marquis of West-
meath),:hid -made. All he could say at the pre-
sent moment was, that the fact was stated, and
was pretty notorious in the country. Of course
he was bound •to inquire further into the
matter before he could reiterate the charge. There
might have been some error as to the time when the
Roman Catholic priest to whom he had alluded and
who wag now dead had been suspended ; but he re-
peated he would make further inquiry into the matter.
The Marquis of NORMANBY only wished to
state the fact, that he had received a contradiction of
the Noble Marquis's statement, explicitly declaring
that no priest had ever been suspended for the alleged
cause.
The: Marquis of WESTMEATH reiterated his
intention of making further inquiries into the
matter, and then sedl, that, as he was upon his legs,
he Would put a question to his Noble and Learned
Friend on the Woolsack.
The Duke, of WELLINGTON hoped that their
Lordships would adhere to the practice of not asking
questions without giving notice.
The Marquis of IVESTMEATH said he did not
wish his Noble and Learned Friend on the Woolsack
to ive an.ariswer doing so were inconvenient.
igiriVIANCELLOR said that one of the
_
notice was, that it gave an op-
. ,
/ dun' • to whom it was put, to consider
/47, -onijo on who gave the notice, as to
71*. u. ~was pqper; to put the question or not.
CAL AflitOU4l said another- advantage was
it .enables hint to'give an answer.
•
111 • s

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour.

trtt Wbition observations Thie Marquis of LANSDOWNE made a few
servations which were inaudible In the gallery.
The Duke of WELLINGTON said, that he
SUN OF.FICE, Seven o'Cloch, made a mistake in tailing` it an order of the House;
but it was a practice of their Lordships which it was
very desirable not to infringe upon, not to ask a
question without giving notice.
The conversation then dropped.
The LORD CHANCELLOR presented a petition
from the masters and scholars of the University of
Cambridge, against the union of the sees of St.
Asaph and Bangor.
FRENCH AND ENGLISH COLLISION IN

THE SOUTH SEAS.
Lord BROUGHAM wished to ask his Noble
Friend opposite (Lord Aberdeen) a question in re-
lation to a rumour which had caused a great deal of
alarm in this country. He was sure his Noble
Friend would have no difficulty in answering his
question, as the rumour to which it referred was one
that could scarcely have any foundation. His question
was, whether his Noble Friend had received any in-
formation on the subject of an encounter alleged to
have taken place between French and English ships
of war in the South Seas ?
The ;Earl of ABERDEEN said that the Noble
Lord's question was an instance of the inconvenience
which had been so strongly reprehended in the con-
versation which had just taken place amongst their
Lordships, and in which his Noble and Learned
Friend had taken part.—(A. laugh.) However, he
could say that he had received no information on the
subject, and he thought it very improbable that there
was any foundation for the rumour.—(Hear.)
EXPULSION OF POLES FROM POSEN.
Lord BROUGHAM rose to put another question
to his Noble Friend.-L-(Laughter.) It was well
known to his Noble Friend, and to all their Lord-
ships, that his Majesty, the present King of Prussia,
ruled over his dominions with great kindness and
justice—and that his kindness was not confined to
his Saxon and Prussian subjects, but was extended to
his Polish subjects in the Grand Duchy of Posen, which
was annexed to the kingdom of Prussia in the year
1774. But it was said that he had lately issued a
proclamation, that all persons from Russia and
Austrian Poland should depart from Posen. He (Lord
Brougham) thought that was very unlike the rest of
his Majesty's conduct since he ascended the throne.—
(Hear, hear.) If he had done so, it must be in
consequence of something which had not come to the
knowledge of the public in this country. He (Lord
Brougham) thought such a proceeding was not con-
sistent with the mildness and justice of the King's
Administration hitherto, to make so sweeping a pro-
clamation against the whole for their misconduct.
The Earl of ABERDEEN had again to ob-
serve, that in consequence of the watt of notice, he
was unable to give a decided answer.—(Hear and a
laugh.) He knew indeed that the King of Prussia
had lately adopted some measures in relation to the
Polish refugees residing in Posen, but how far those
measures extended, he was not prepared to say.
He agreed with his Noble and Learned Friend,
that from what they knew of the character and
Government of the King of Prussia, it would appear
that whatever he had done, was warranted by the
necessity of the- case —(Hear.)
CATHOLICS ON JURIES IN IRELAND.
Lord CAMPBELL begged the indulgence of the
House, while he brought under their notice a matter
which had occasioned great pain to a gentleman of
great respectability. In doing so, he would keep
himself within their Lcirciships rules, and not make
a speech without a motion.—(A laugh.) He re-
gretted that the Noble Lord the Earl of Roden was
not present ; however, he would not hesitate to
mention the matter in his Lordship's absence,
for he was bringing no charge against the
Noble Earl, who = had said nothing which
he did - not believe to be perfectly correct.
But the Noble Earl fell into a mistake mu-
tually enough. The gentleman in whose behalf
he (Lord Campbell) had to solicit their attention was
Mr. Richard O'Gorman, an opulent and respectable
merchant of the City of Dublin, who was one of the
grand jury to whom the indictment was preferred
against Mr. O'Connell. The circumstance to
which he (Lord Campbell) was about to advert
had been mentioned by his Noble and Learned Friend
behind him, and. on that occasion Lord Roden said
that it was an instance of the unfitness of Roman
Catholics to be placed upon juries, because Mr.
O'Gorman, notwithstanding his oath to keep his own
counsel and that of his fellows, declared in open
court that he had not consented to the finding. The
fact was that the foreman of the grand jury signed
the Bill for " himself and fellows," when Mr.
O'Gorman said in court that he for one had not
agreed. Mr. O'Gorman has a son at the
Irish Bar, who had communicated with him
(Lord C.) 'transmitted to him references to
authorities which proved
_that the jurors were
only bound by their oaths to keep secret the evidence
and material facts which come before them, but they
were in no Wise bound, to conceal in whaeway they
had voted in the jury-room. There was a case at
the Old Bailey, on which the Chief Justice presided,
and actually examined the jury individually in Court
as to the way in which they had voted, and in another
case Lord Kenyon ruled that no grand juror could
be examined upon a trial to prove whether
or not the evidence of the prosecuting wit-
ness was the same in Court at the trial
with that which he had given before the jury.
It was quite enough if twelve concurred in finding
the bill; the dissent of those who did not was of no
importance. He should not conclude by any formal
motion.

Lord BROUGHAM thought there was no oc-
casion for that; there was nothing objectionable
in the mode taken to defend an absent person.
But it was only right that he should state
there must be a great mistake either in the report
or the recollection of the Noble and Learned Lord, if
he supposed that Lord Roden meant to throw any
imputation on Mr. O'Gorman of having violated his
oath. But the Noble Earl was arguing on the dan-
ger of leaving Roman Catholics on the
petty jury, and in order to illustrate this, he stated
that the trials were looked on so much as a Catholic
question In Ireland, that this respectable individual,
a Catholic,was so apprehensive and alarmed at the effect
of being supposed to have agreed with the other grand
jury he did a very unusual thing—he came into
open Court, and declared that he did not concur in
the finding. Certainly there was no intention on the
part of Lord Roden to impute anything like moral
perjury to Mr. O'Gorman.
Lord CAMPBELL said he had not intended to in-
troduce anything of a controversial nature into the
question.
The Marquis of WESTMEATH bore testimony to
the honourable conduct of Mr. O'Gorman when
assistant barrister of the county in which he lived.
After a few words from Lord WHARNCLIETE and
Lord CAMPBELL, the conversation dropped.
FREE - TRADE.
Lord CLARENDON (on behalf of Lord Radnor)
postponed the presentation of the petition from the
county of Somerset,- in favour of free trade, till
Thursday, the 29th inst.
TRADE WITH TURKEY.
Lord BEAU MONTI asked if it would be conve-
nient for the Government to lay on the table any
copies or extracts of correspondence between the
Foreign-office and the Porte, relating to the duties on
British goods imported into Turkey.
The Earl of ABERDEEN made no objection to
laying the correspondence on the table.
JURIES IN IRELAND.
The Marquis of
,LANSDOWNE gave notice of
his intention to move that :there 'be laid before the
House any instructions that had been given in Ireland
with regard to the mode of striking juries. He did
not fix any 'day for that motion.
Their Lordships then adjourned. •

On the motion of Sir T. Fremantle, the SPEAKER
directed his warrant to issue for a new writ for the
election ofa Member for Londonderry in the room of R.
Bateson, Esq., deceased.
MANCHESTER AND LEEDS RAILWAY.
Mr. HARDY moved the second reading of the
Manchester and Leeds Railway (Bury branch).
Mr. T. EGERTON took the opportunity of re-
marking on the want of formality in referring some
of those branch Railway Bills to the York Railway
Committee; and others to the Leeds Railway Commit-
tee.

The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered
to be committed.
Several Railway Bills were advanced a stage. •
On the motion that Sang's Naturalization Bill be
read a second time,

Mr. HARCOURT moved pursuant to notice—
that it be an instruction to the Committee ofiSelection;
that the Committee on Sang's Naturalization Bill have
leave to sit on Wednesday next, and that the Commit-
tee on the Bill have leave to report on the same day.
Th© motion was agreed to, and the Bill read a
second time, and ordered to be committed.
Mr. AGLIONBY brought up the Report on the
Basingstoke and Southampton Railway Bill.
REPEAL OF THE UNION. _
_ _

Mr. O'CONNELL presented a petition from the
Corporation of Dublin, under the seal of the Corpo-
ration, praying for a repeal of the legislative union
between England and Ireland. The petitioners stated
that the Act of Union was passed against the will of
the Irish people, at a time when martial law had
been proclaimed, when the Habeas Corpus Act had
been suspended, and when the military force in Ire-
land had been greatly_ augmented. ''.fhe petitioners
further stated that to obtain the Act of Union the sum
of 1,500,0001. was expended in the most profligate
bribery. They also stated that the result of the
Union had been that 2,300,000 paupers had been
upwards of one'
spread over the land, being