The Sun.
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secution. He cited law authorities without limit in
support of his position, and read from the
News Letter, of the 27th of April, 1834, a de-
scription of the meeting of two hundred thousand men
in London on the subject of the sentences passed on
the Dorsetshire labourers—their procession in divi-
sions through the streets of the metropolis in military
array, with banners flying, to Downing-street, to
place a " monster petition" in the hands of the then
Minister of the Crown—Lord Melbourne—and ap-
pealed to the evidence of Mr. Charles Ross to show
that this " monster meeting," with all the charac-
teristics of the meetings in Ireland, was not con-
sidered an illegal meeting. He asked, how could
the peaceable, orderly meetings in Ireland, be held
to be illegal, if this meeting in England was not so
considered ? He referred to the declaration in Par-
liament of Sir Robert Peel, on the 24th of May,
1843, that if greater powers than those of the ordi-
nary law of the land were necessary to put down
the Repeal agitation, that he would apply
to Parliament for those powers ; and he
(Mr. Whiteside) argued, that as several
of the "monster meetings" had been held at the time
of that declaration, the first Minister of the Crown
did not hold them as illegal, otherwise he would have
brought the law to bear upon them for their sup-
pression, had he found it necessary, previous to the pro •
rogation of Parliament, by asking for additional powers
for their suppression. Hew, then, could it be said
that in the eyes of the Government those meetings
were illegal ; above all, how could they be charac-
terised as prominent features of a conspiracy ? The
Learned Gentleman was listened to with great atten-
tion, and, after a speech of more than six hours, sa
down quite exhausted.

House stopped supplies of old, the evil was small in
comparison of what a similar stoppage would produce
at this day. The Crown of old 1114 large revenues of
its own ; but at this day the revenues of the Crown
were nothing in comparison with the whole expenses
of our establishments. The grievances of the country
were now so many, that if the supplies were stopped
till they were all redressed, the whole session would
be gone before any supply were voted."
The danger, let us add, to the salutary influence of
a legitimate opposition to Government, would be
proportionably great, if the country found them dis-
posed to sanction a check of this kind, at the sacrifice
of so many higher considerations, in order, only, to
strengthen their own controlling agency.
As to the efficiency of the amendment in question, as
a "party demonstration," the numbers on the division
tell their own tale. It was supported by 29 Mem-
bers, opposed by 285, and consequently rejected by a
majority of 256. We are really at a loss to discover
what object was to be realised by this premature
proclamation of the minority of their own weakness.
It is quite as difficult to understand why the division
was hazarded at all, since other means were open to
the Hon. Mover for recording the same opinions as
are comprised in its terms, without telling off a
skeleton company, at the end of the engagement, to
demonstrate " that they had gained a loss."

SUMMARY OF NEWS

AND
Vittatt Optitten,

" Who runs may read."

POREIGIC
The funeral of Count d'Erlon took place on Monday with
the honours due to his rank. It was attended by all the
Marshals of Paris, with the Duke de Dalmatie at their head,
the Diplomatic body, the Council of State, a great many peers,
the family and staff of the deceased, &c.
At twelve o'clock on the same day, the obsequies of M.
Charles Nodier were performed at the church of St. Paul
St. Louis, in the presence of an assemblage of his friends
that very nearly filled the church. The pall was borne by
the Minister of Public Instruction, and MM. Etienne, Lebrun,
and Victor Hugo, members of the French Academy. A large
deputation from the Institute also attended.
It is said that Queen Christina is to quit Paris for Spain
within ten days. All the preparations have been already
made in the hotel of the Rue de Courcelles.
A letter from Chateauroux of the 27th ult. states that
General Bertrand, who is residing there, is very much in-
disposed.
M. Le Tourneur, Bishop of Verdun, died of apoplexy on
the 26th ult. Ile was found in his room seated in his arm
chair, holding a newspaper in his hand, and his glasses lying
on the ground. He was 63 years of age.
The Gazette de France says :—" We are informed that the
young men of the schools intend to go in a mass to M. de
hateaubriand, and thus oppose a marked homage to the
branding which M. St. Marc Girardin and the Ministerial
Deputies have just decreed upon him."
The following telegraphic dispatch appears in the Moniteur :
—"Bayonne, Jan, 28.—0 n the evening of the 22d, the dis-
arming of the National Guards gave rise to some disturbances,
which were promptly repressed. The giving up of the arms
took place on the 23d without difficulty. General Serrano is
appointed Inspector-General. of the Cavalry. General
Concha has given in his resignation as Inspector-General of
infantry, and is replaced by_Cieneral Soria."

Sir ROBERT PEEL'S policy is just what we anticipated
t would be, when speculating on the subject a few days
since in The Sun. He has taken fright at the signifi-
cant menaces thrown out by the RICHMONDS, the TRCL-
LOPES, and several other great Lords of the soil, and
announced his intention not to interfere in any way with
the existing corn-laws. We think nothing of this de-
claratiOn, however, positive as it is, for we have a dis-
tinct recollection of the Test Acts and the Catholic
Emancipation measure, to both of which questions the
Premier declared himself strongly opposed; yet, scarcely
were the words well out of his mouth, when he made
an abrupt Jim-Crow wheel round, and carried both.
As he acted on these two memorable occasions,
why . should he not act again ? Why should
he allow a positive declaration to stand in his way
now, more than in 1829 ? Ce n'est gue le premier
pas qui coute; and having already mastered the first
difficulty—got over the first scruples of conscience—all
the rest follows as a matter of course. The very ti-
midity and vacillation of nature which have forced Sir
R. PEEL to give in his adhesion to the Monopolists, will
force him to side with the Leaguers, the in-
stant they exhibit a sufficiently formidable front
At present he thinks the former are the stronger
party ; therefore he avows himself their servant ; but
when he finds the latter in possession of the
greatest share of influence, then he will wear their
livery. Meantime, we feel persuaded—and are consoled
by the persuasion—that the declaration made by the
Premier, of his intention to stand by the landowners,
will be so far from throwing a damp on the exertions of
the League, that it will give them a tenfold impetus,
and—as in the case of the Catholic Emancipation ques-
tion—precipitate the downfal of the corn-laws. Mr.
VILLIERS—whose speech by-the-bye, was the most
spirited of the evening—expressed himself in
very caustic and significant terms on the sub
ject .of the Minister's declaration, and the mental
timidity that dictated it, observing, "It was to
him a great source of regret to see the want of spirit
which the Right Hon. Baronet exhibited. Why did he
not turn round upon these people—the landowners ?
Why did he not show them their utter helplessness
without him ? Why did he not show them how utterly
unable they would be to administer any system of Go-
vernment without him ? How, with all their rank, and
property, and pride, they were compelled to fall back
upon persons of talent, experience, and capacity ?
Why did he not rely upon the people ? By such
means he would maintain that high standing and sound
reputation, for the sake of which alone he had
said that he valued office. Let him set at defiance that
miserable party which urged him to do that which would
be injurious to the country." Sound advice this, and
such as Sir R. PEEL will be compelled to follow, ere
another year has rolled over his head. He has
made—we are pretty certain—the last positive de-
claration he will ever make against the corn-laws ;
and when he next makes a profession of faith on
the subject—say in the year 1845—we strongly sus-
pect it will be to the effect that imperative circumstances
have arisen since the last meeting of Parliament, which
compel him to recant all he has ever said on the subject
of the bread-tax, and to come forward as the advocate
of a fixed duty, preparatory to a total abolition in due
course of time. This recantation, which might stick in
the throat of a more high-minded Minister, like
" Amen" in the larynx of MACBETH, will be- made by
our expediency-loving Premier, without the slighter
difficulty, quite as a matter of course. Having a

Whatever may be the sentiments of the country on
he object of the Puseyite movement, it seems pretty
clear that the University of Oxford herself contem-
plates no interference in the matter. If any doubt
might have been entertained on the subject the recent
manifesto of his Grace the Chancellor and the Very
Reverend the Vice-Chancellor, in reply to an appli-
cation from Lord ASHLEY and a large number of
graduates, must effectually dispel all such uncer-
tainty. From this document, it seems, that ample
means have already been resorted to for the purpose
of freeing the University from the influence of the
obnoxious opinions.
What are the means ? The Chancellor and Vice
tell us. They are comprised in three sapient mea-
sures, one of which, we learn from the document
itself, has been in operation about two hundred and
fifty years, and the other two, we believe, were also
employed some time before the doctrines referred to
were known in this country.
Subscription to the Thirty-nine Articles at matri-
culation, and at the conferring degrees, is the first of
the safeguards against the intrusion of heterodox
doctrines ; secondly, we find due provision made in
the tests which were instituted on the creation of
some modern endowments ; and lastly, we are told
the University has done still more by means of the
increase in the amount of theological training pur-
sued among the students.
How impotent all these plans have been for the
purposes they were designed to subserve, may be
clearly perceived by that most unerring of all tests,
reference to actual experience. How is it that the
University of Oxford contains within herself almost
all the elements which go to compose a Roman
Catholic seminary ? How is it that she finds herself
incapable of suppressing opinions which have
been denounced by her chief resident dignitary as
contrary to the formula and doctrines of the Protes-
tant Reformed Church established in these dominions ?
How is it that year after year she is compelled to
send forth men from her schools, who avow their
determination to disseminate, wherever they may
come, principles utterly opposed to the standards of
acknowledged orthodoxy ? How is it that she che-
rishes by her endowments those who are constantly
plotting her ruin as a nursery of Protestant truth ?
Tell us how these things- are, if the powers already
exercised by the University are asserted to be
effectual for maintaining her in her pristine purity.
It might be very well for his Grace the Duke of
WELLINGTON to defend his non-interference by such
an explanation. The country prizes his Grace for
his achievements in war, not for his labours either in
the closet or in the pulpit. But how is it that Dr.
WYNTER is found acquiesing in such apologies for
doing nothing ? Has his Reverence at length become
more tolerant of error than he was a few months
since, when an opportunity was afforded for the ex
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LAW,. AND POLICE.

The proceedings in the Equity and Law Courts on Thurs.
day were without interest.
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wicke, charged by Thomas Robinson, butler to the Earl of
Abingdon, with having unlawfully obtained from him a 51.
note, and with having threatened, unless a further sum of
money was given, to make a certain accusation against him.
After evidence had been heard, the prisoner said he should
reserve everything he had to say for his trial. He was fully
committed.
At Marylebone, M. Jean Caplin, a Frenchman, carrying on
business in Berners-street, Oxford-street, was charged on a
warrant with having committed a most violent assault upon
a young woman named Ann Nicholls, and fined 40s. and costs.
Thomas Davis, a man formerly in an extensive business
as a
„jeweller in the City, was charged, at Union-hall, with
obtaining various sums of money under false pretences. The
Magistrate said, that as there were so many cases against the
prisoner, he did not know he could do otherwise than commit
him. At all events he should remand him for a few days to
ascertain the extent of his depredations.
At the Thames Police Court, Thomas Edwards, an Ame-
rican sailor, a man of short stature, and of most ferocious ap-
pearance, was brought before Mr. Ballantine, charged with
the wilful murder of William Kamish, on board the barque
Amelia, of Guernsey, on the 29th of December last, at sea.
After a lengthened examination, Mr. Ballantine told the pri-
soner he should commit him for trial for wilful murder; but,
as the evidence of the captain would be necessary, he should
remand him for a day.

.
COURT-r.asuroNADLE.
Her Majesty the Queen Dowager takes daily airings in the
vicinity of Witley Court, whenever the weather permits.
Among the most recent instances of her Majesty's benevo-
lence, is the donation of 201. towards the purchase of a par-
sonage house for Christ Church, Woodhouse, near Hudders-
field; and also a donation of 20/., towards the rebuilding of
the parish church of Newton Torrey, Wilts.
The Duchess of Northumberland has arrived on a visit to
the Earl and Countess of Powis, at Walcot Hall, near Ludlow.
The Duke and Duchess de Coigny and Mdlle. de Coigny,
after a lenthened residence at the Duchess's seat, Bargany
House, Ayrshire, have departed for the family chateau in
France.

The Duke and Duchess of Somerset, who intend to remain
in Brighton until March, are about to purchase the splendid
mansion in Eastern-terrace, in which they are at present re-
siding. The Duke and Duchess of Sutherland have just
I taken a mansion in Eastern-terrace, where they are daily
expected.
The Right Hon. the Earl of Stradbroke has arrived at the
Brunswick Hotel, Jermyn• street, from Henham Hall.
Lord John Russell's Parliamentary dinner on Wednesday
evening, in Chesham-place. was given toViscouut Palmerston,
Viscount Howick, Right Hon. T. B. Macaulay, Sir George
Grey, Right Hon. 11. Labouchere, Right Hon. Vernon Smith,
Right Hon. F. T. Baring, Sir John Hobhouse, Mr. Hawes,
Mr. Charles Buller, Mr. 'ruffle% &c. Covers were laid for
sixteen.

Viscount St. Vincent is indisposed, at his seat in Stafford-
shire, otherwise the Noble Viscount would have been present
at the Parliamentary dinner given on Wednesday by the
Duke of Wellington.

THE DUBLIN CORPORATION.
THE QUEEN'S ANSWER TO THE ADDRESS.
The Deputation, with the Address of the Dublin Corpora-
tion, waited on her Majesty, at two o'clock to-day, which
consisted of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen Gardener and Mac-
kennar, Town Councillors J Dunne, J. Bury, J. Fallon, J.
Burke, F. Tuite, John Rielly, W. Reynolds, the High Con-
stable, City Marshal, Mace-bearer, Sword-bearer, and the
Rev. Dr. O'Connell, Chaplain to the Lord Mayor.
The following is the answer :
" I receive with satisfaction the assurance that sentiments
of loyalty and attachment to my person and Crown continue
to be cherished by you.
" The legal proceedings to which you refer are now in pro-
gress before a competent tribunal, and I am unwilling to
interrupt the administration of justice according to law.
It is at all time, "73—anxious desire that any grievance,
of which my people can justly complain, should be speedily
redressed, and I confide in the wisdom of the Parliament of
the United Kingdom for the adoption of such legislative
measures as may be necessary for that purpose."

plicit declaration of his 'principles ? Has the ap-
pointment to the Lichfield mitre disconcerted his
former zeal ?

But we tell both the Chancellor and the Vice-
Chancellor, and "the Masters, Professors, Taxors,
and all that bear office in the ancient University,"
that the cool indifference with which they—such of
them, we mean, as are not personally tainted with
these opinions—what is going on is not parti-
cipated in by the country at large. What is more,
we beg to remind that learned body, that, after all,
they must depend for their influence, respectability,
and status, upon the estimation in which they are held
by the country ; and that unless they adopt some
measures for regaining the good opinion of the
Protestants of the empire, it may chance to fare with
them and their endowments less agreeably than they
might desire.

ready swallowed such a camel as the Catholic Relief ques

tion, he will be the last man on earth to strain at suet

a gnat as a fixed duty, or a total and immediate abo
tion of those iniquitous laws.

The accounts from Madrid, which are of the 24th and
25th ult_ possess little interest. The Corporation of
Madrid had appointed a deputation to receive QUEEN
CHRISTINA on her return to Spain. They were to pro-
ceed to the frontier to meet her MAJESTY. Some dis-
turbance, caused by disarming the militia, had taken
place at Saragossa, but order according to the last ac-
counts had been restored. On the 24th the Three per
Cents. were done at 26 and 264 for cash, and 26i at 60
days, and the Five per Cents. at 19i- at 30 days.

The amendment which, in an early part of the
debate of Thursday evening, Mr. SHARMAN CRAW-
FORD thought proper to move upon the address to her
MAJESTY proposed by Lord CLIVE, appears to us to
have been a very inexpedient proceeding. Whether
considered in reference to the constitutional principle
involved in its proposition, or to the tactics of a legi-
timate opposition to the Government, or even to the
mere efficiency of party demonstrations, we must de-
precate the course which has thus been taken. And
we do so, not simply disclaiming any feeling of
personal prepossession against Mr. CRAWFORD, but
under a full impression, on the contrary, that a more
sincere or honest man it would be as difficult to find
in Parliament, as it would be to name one Irish gen-
tleman of more unwearied zeal in the service of his
native country, or of a more ardent and profound at-
tachment to its people. In fact, we believe that the
error into which he appears to have fallen in this case
was one of the results of that excess of constitutional
temperament over disciplined judgment which is na-
tive to the idiosyncracy of Irish character, under even
its happiest development. Mr. CRAWFORD'S amend-
ment, in effect, amounted to this : that the House
should apprise her Majesty that, in the present state
of the country they would feel it their duty to in-
quire into grievances before they voted supplies.
As to the constitutional principle, nobody will at-
tempt to challenge the undoubted right of Parliament
to withhold voting the supplies until certain in-
quiries, voted by the Legislature ,to,be necessary for
the redress of certain grievances, shall have been first
instituted. So admitted an axiom, however, as the
" lex et consuetude of Parliament, it was not ne-
cessary, as Lord JOHN RUSSELL well argued, to
make the subject of a formal declaration by that
House. Its constitutional principle' was not, more-
over, involved in the question whether the. House of
Commons would affirm or reject an amendment
which the same Noble Lord considered, in the next
alternative, as an intimation that the supplies, "which
are not merely for the Crown but for the country,"
would be temporarily withheld " by an obstructive
minority." Nor did Mr. CRAWFORD, in disclaiming
this hypothesis, attempt to invalidate the force
of the inference. In either case, therefore, the
amendment was unnecessary—or not intended—
to affirm a constitutional principle.
Was it, in the next place, compatible with the
tactics of a legitimate opposition to Ministers ? So
far from it, that Mr. WARBURTON, with that manli-
ness and good sense which generally distinguish his
peeches in the House, demonstrated that such a
course of proceeding at this juncture, and under
existing circumstances, would not merely embarrass
her MAJESTY'S Ministers, but tend to prejudice the
great interests and the public service of this country.
He happily illustrated, too, the wide distinction to be
noted between the probable results of such a vote as
Mr. CRAWFORD would have called .for in the present
day, and those which would have ensued upon it
in earlier ages of our history, when the revenues of
the Crown (yet unconnected with the public)
might have sufficed to carry on the machinery
of the various State departments for some
considerable time, without any large amount
of public inconvenience. The Honourable Member
for Kendal showed, moreover, that the whole of this
machinery must now-a-days stand still, if such a
course were to be resorted to to compel the redress

The Paris papers of Tuesday, which were delayed by
the snow-storm and the boisterous weather in the
Channel, have been received, but they bring no news.
On Monday evening, M. SAUZET, President of the
Chamber of Deputies, accompanied by a grand deputa-
tion, presented to the KING the address in answer to the
speech. His MAJESTY was attended by his three sons,
the Duke cle NEMOURS, the Prince de JOINVILLE, and the
Duke de MONTPENSIER. The address having been read
by the President, the KING made the following reply:—
" Gentlemen—l learn with a lively satisfaction that the Chamber of
Deputies apereciates in the same degree as I do all the blessings that
France enjoys at present. This just appreciation is an additional
guarantee for their duration. You know that I always respond with
confidence and pleasure to the loyal concurrence of which you renew
to me the ascurance. It is the continuance of this accord between
all the powers of the State which renders chimerical the culpable
hopes that the enemies of our institutions would in vain endeavour
to revive. lam deeply moved with the sentiments which you ex-
press towaxtls my family and myself. All my sons and grandsons,
called like myself by the national wish and the law, which has
emanated from it, to succeed eventually to the constitutional throne
which I at :present occupy, will continue to show themselves wor-
thy of this high mission, by their active devotedness to France, to
our institutions, and to those liberties of which they are the verita-
ble guarantee."

The resignation of the Carlist Deputies forms the
principal subject of discussion in the papers, M. SAL-
YANDY has resigned his situation as Ambassador at
Turin. He, of course, had no alternative after his late
votes in the Chamber against Ministers. The funds were
a shade better on Tuesday. The Three per Cents. closed
at 82f. 15c. ; the Fives at 124 f. 65c. ; Orleans Railroad
Shares at 850 f. ; Havre, 675 f. ; Avignon, 750 f. ; Spanish
Actives, 30i.

We have at a late hour received the papers of Wed-
nesday. In the Chamber, on that day, Marshal SOULT
moved that a pension of 3,000 francs should be voted to
the daughter of Marshal DROUET, and 12,000 francs for
the expense of his funeral. The motion was adopted by
acclamation. The Minister announced his intention to
station seven war-steamers in the Indian ocean, the
West Indies, and' Sciuth America. The Chamber voted
1,800,000 francs for the expenses of the China station,
thereby confirming a Royal decree appropriating that
sum, which had been issued during the prorogation of
the Chambers.

On Wednesday the Three per Cents. again fell consi-
derably. At three o'clock the closing prices were—
Five per Cents., 124 f. 40c. ; Three per Cents., 81f. 85c. ;
Rente de Naples, 107 f.

of grievances generally. He said that, " when the

THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY MORNING, FEBRUARY a, 1844.