The Sun.
London, England, 1845-05-08 00:00:00

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LONDON, WORCESTER, AND SOUTH STAFFORD.
SHIRE RAILWAY.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition.)
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To Mr. COCKBURN—The Great Western line he thought the
straightest of the two between Dudley and Wolverhampton. It
also took in the greatest number of works. It came to his works
three-quarters of a mile nearer than the other. In the other parts
of the district, be considered the London and Birmingham line,
especially with certain branch lines proposed to be formed, decidedly
the best.

Mr. Edward Williams, miller and corn factor at Dudley, was
next examined. He was largely engaged in business. The agri-
cultural produce of the district was not one.tenth of the con-
sumption. The extra supplies were principally derived from
the districts of the south. The purchases were mostly made at
Birmingham. There were about eighty-four flour mills in opera-
tion within five miles of Dudley. About 150,080 quarters
a year, were ground in these mills, brought from the sur-
rounding country, from a distance averaging about sixty
miles. This produce was at present carried by canal ; but if
a railway was formed, it would be principally brought by that means.
His firm used about 300 quarters a week. In winter great incon-
venience arose from the freezing of the canal, which could not take
place with a railway.
J. W. Copewell, overseer of roads, was examined at length re-
specting the traffic of the district, which he showed, in fish, ♦ege-
table produce, and cattle, to be very extensive.
Mr. Harris, of Stourport, was examined to the same effect,
without eliciting any further point of material importance.
Add:tional evidence was brought forward tending to show the
extensive nature of the traffic in agricultural produce, and the neces.
sity of a railway, especially such a one as that proposed by the
London and Birmingham Company.
The Committee at four o'clock adjourned till twelve o'clock to-
morrow.

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!Continued from our Afternoon Edition.)
NOTTINGHAM AND LINCOLN LINE.

Eeveral witnesses were called to prove that the cattle and pas-
senger traffic on the Flood and Queen's road, where the railway
would cross at a level, was very considerable and necessarily dan-
gerous.
The Committee adjourned at a quarter to four o'clock.

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WEST CORNWALL.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition.)
The examination of Captain Moorsom, by ➢fr. ROWE, was then
resumed. He said the proprietors of the Hayle Railway would lay
down the broad gauge, on the assumption that it should become
part of the new line. In fact, there wculd be three rails instead of
two as heretofore. A new single rail would be laid down outside
one of the others, which would not be interfered with. The width
of the embankment of the Hayle Railway is from sixteen to
elAhteen feet ; in some places it is wider. Sixteen fe.l is the nar.
rowest point. About fourteen feet is the narrowest width of the
bridges on which the railway runs. The bridges of the line are
unusually high. No alterations would render any interfcrcnce with
the adjoining property necessary. No new power would be required.
If more land were wanted, it could be easily obtained, as the land-
owners had ever been most accommodating. Knew of no case
where they would have to deal with trustees of turn-
pike roads in respect to any ground which they might
require for the purpose of altering the Hayle Railway.
The witness was examined by Mr. HARTLEY with respect to the
property of Mr. Thomas, who had petitioned the Committee
against the railway running through his property, which was
stopped by Mr. Thomas himself saying that if they would erect
the line oft; and to the north of his property, as he had proposed,
he would pay any additional expense which would thus be entailed
upon the Company.

This matter, like the last, was also adjourned to give time for
consideration.

Mr. ROWE, referring to the case of Lord Vivian, said his Lord.
ship had no desire to thwart the intention of the Company by
seeking an exorbitant! price for his property, feeling that it might
be of great importance to the district, and that many of the inha-
bitants might be in favour of it. On the part of his Lordship he
bad therefore to propose that the matter should be referred to
Mr. Pendarves, one of the Members for the county, who was quite
one
unconof necitsted w
rectorith the Company, and to Mr. Humphrey Williams,
Di He was anxious to have this done to-day,
that the matter might be again brought btfore the Committee in
the morning.

Mr. A
proposit ion. LUX•NMIR, on the part c C the Company, acquiesced in this
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Mr. MACAULAY (the Chairman) said the
proposition
one, and would, he trusted, lead to a satisfactor
with respect to the running of the railway
Captain Moorsom was examined at great le); result.
was a fair
h ty Mr. SMALE,
property be..
throughi longing to the Rev. Mr. Millet, without eliciting
any point of in_
terest.
Mr. Brunel, the engineer, said he had examined the line'
and
that it offered many facilities for the construction of a railway
Mr. Whitley, a surveyor, had estimated the total expense
of thc
land required for the line at 5,664/.
Mr. Ila,chell, also a surveyor, at 5,4001.
Mr. A LE XANUEB said, with that evidence, his case for the pream-
ble was closed.
Mr. SHALE was addressing the Committee on behalf of the Rev.
Mr. Millet, who opposes the line because it will injure his property
to a great extent, and because there is sufficient railway accommo-
dation in the district at the present time, when the Committee
adjourned.

The Cornwall Railway will not be taken until Monday, the 19th
hilt, to which day the Committee will adjourn from to.rnorrow.
The Committee will conclude their investigation in the present
XII, If possible, to-morrow.

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THE SOUTHAMPTON AND DORCHESTER RAILWAY.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition )

Mr. MEIRIVVITHLR however considered that the Corporation of
limattampton, as the Conservators of the public interests, had a right
Fa tat Cars of the property, whether real or suppositious, of the in.
i.ehitsrste ot the town,

Mr. ATIIERTON, who appeared for Mr. Rawlinson, conceived
that however the Corporation might be not entitled to come and op.
pose the Bill, he conceived that the Southampton Improvement
Commissioners were clearly entitled to protest against this in-
fringement on their means of carrying out the object of their
trust.

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Mr. MERREWETHER then pointed out that if the tunnel were
to be carried to the length proposed by the Corporation, all difficulty
would be avoided, and the termination would be made at a place
were no inconvenience could possibly arise.
Mr. AusTIN stated that if the wishes of the Corporation were to
be complied with, the line would come out at a vertical height of
fourteen feet above the level, which would prove a physical impos-
sibility, and the request was tantamount to asking the Committee to
throw out the Bill.

Mr. HILL, having stated that in his opinion, that if the line were
made of 523 yards length, the Lammas land would not be mate-
rially affected, it was ultimately agreed that the tunnel should be
of that length, and that the railway should be a single line.
A conversation having ensued respecting the formation of a
shaft into the tunnel without the consent of the mayor and corpo-
ration, it was agreed that the shaft might be made, provided a suf-
ficient protection to the public were placed around it ; and the
clause was ultimately withdrawn by Mr. Merrewett er.
Mr. MERREWETHEa objected to the making the etation in South.
ampton without the supervision of the Corporation.

Mr. AUSTIN conceived that the engineer of the line was the
person most fitted to form the station, and suggested an alteration,
which was refused by the Corporation.
On this dispute the room was cleared, and, on the admission of
strangers, . .

The CFIAIRMAN declared that the Committee had agreed to a
clause, giving the supervision to the Corporation, but the arrange.
ments to the engineer. _ _

Mr. MERREWITHER then proposed a clause, obliging the Corn.
pany to stop at the station, instead of going forward to the south-
western station, under a penalty of 251., to be recovered as an
action of debt.

Mr. AUSTIN objected entirely to this clause, as being an unjusti-
fiab!e interference with the mangement of the Company.

Mr. MERREWETIIER stated, in reply, that the South-Western
Company were to have a lease of the line ; and it was well known
that it would be the object of that Company to carry the passengers
and traffic to the present South. Western station. Such a clause
had been conceded to the West London Railway by the Great
Western Railway Company,
After a long conversation the CHAIRMAN said that it was the
fee;ing of the Committtee that a declaration should be made, that
this station should be a bona fide stopping station.

Mr. MER REWETHE R proposed to strike out the penalty, or allow
Mr. Austin to alter the clause as he thought proper.
The room was cleared for the consideration of the Committee,
and on the admission of strangers,
The CHAIRMAN stated that the Committee had considered the
matter very anxiously, and they thought that there was ground
for the requirement of the people of Southampton, but they were
unwilling to encumber the Bill with a clause of which it was
impossible to see the whole consequences, and they thought that
the difficulty would be better met by a written declaration, to the
effect, that this station should be used for the taking up and
setting down passengers and goods a sufficient number of times
per day.
Mr. AUSTIN preferred an introduction into the Act of Parlia-
ment to a written declaration : and a clause was framed by the
Committee, which stated that " adequate provision should be
made, by the stoppage of a sufficient number of trains per day for
the purpose of taking up and setting down passengers and goods
near Bletchington-terrace, adjoining the shore of Southampton
water."

To this clause, as altered, both parties readily agreed.
A clause was then proposed by Mr. 3IERCWEATIIER for the con-
struction of an esplanade on the south side of the railway, near to
Southampton Water, and it was desired that the walk should be
made as good as it is now after the railway was formed.
Captain Moorsom was called to show the present condition of the
walk, and he stated that the walk would be replaced on the inside
of the railway, secured from the trains by a wire fence, so as to se-
cure the view, which looked over acres of mud.
Mr. Cozwell, a solicitor, of Southampton, who resided at Ealing,
was called by Mr. ?§IERBEWETIIF.a—Iie stated that he had been in
the habit of passing over it almost every day for 20 years. It was
the last sea walk left at Southampton, and of very great use to the
inhabi!ants of Southampton, and the abduction of it a serious loss to
the town.

Mr. Steel, solicitor, well acquainted with the site, stated that,
on an average, the present path was 16 feet wide; and a clause was
adopted, which obliged the Company to construct a path of the
same width, and maintain it for the space of two years after the
railway was formed. A clause was then introduced, with the ap-
probation of the Company, to secure the conduits and other water
courses of the town of Southampton.
A number of clauses were then introduced, suggested by the
Duchy of Cornwall, obliging the Company to purchase the lards
of the Duchy under a valuation made by surveyors appointed by
the Duchy, instead of according to the awards of a jury or arbitra-
tors, to save the rights of the Duchy, and to secure the authority of
the Council.
Several clauses proposed by the Local Commissioners of Southamp-
ton, for making and preserving the sewers of the town, for not
interfering with new streets, and other objects, all connected with
the well-being of the town, were also adopted.

The clauses having been gone through,
Mr. BURKE read the report, which contained a statement of the
facts which we have already given in our previous reports of the
proceedings of the Committee.
This report was adopted, and the Chairman was requested to
present it to the House.

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TRENT VALLEY.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition.)
The remaining clauses in this Bill were passed, and the Bill was
ordered to be reported.
The Committee then passed the several clauses of the Grand
Junction Potteries Branch.

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CHESTER AND HOLYHEAD RAILWAY.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition.)

The Committee having passed the preamble of this Bill on
Monday last, and the clauses as far as No. 8, on Tuesday, pro-
ceeded to consider the remaining clauses. With the exception of
a few which were left over for future consideration, the other
clauses of the Bill having reference chiefly to matters of detail and
of no public interest, were agreed to.
SHREWSBURY, OSWESTRY, ANI) CHESTER JUNCTION