The Sun.
London, England, 1844-07-05 00:00:00

THE REVENUE.

The Quarter's Revenue will be made up this evening, and
we believe it will prove favourable. In the important de-
partment of Excise, we understand there will be an increase
on the quarter of about 80,0001., and on the year of nearly
400,000/. In the Customs it is expected there will be an in-
crease of 200,000/. ; the Stamps and Tax department
will be nearly the same as in the corresponding
quarter of last year. There is a small increase in
the Post-office returns ; but it is thought there will
be a slight deficiency on the quarter, as compared
with the corresponding quarter of last year, under the head
of Miscellaneous Taxes, in consequence of the remittances of
silver from China coming into the account of last year, and
the remittances recently received in this country not coming
into she revenue account until next quarter, On the year,
and the quarter it is expected the revenue report will be
favourable.—Evening Paper.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
(THIS EVENING.)

HOUSE OF LORDS.

Their Lordships ro-assembled for Parliamentary business at
Five o'clock, when the LOAD CUANCELLOA took his seat en
the Woolsack.

MOROCCO.

The Earl of MINT() said he-rose for the purpose of
putting the question, of which he had given notice, respecting
the naval force to the coast of Morocco. He understood the
mediation of this country between France and Morocco had
been rejected, and, though he deeply regretted it, he was not
surprised that such should be the case, because he did not
think they had placed themselves in such a position
as to afford.to any weak state that assurance of their support
which symptoms of preparation on their part would afford.
The independence of Morocco could not be an object of indif-
ference to that House, for there were positions on the coast of
that empire which would be most injurious and dangerous to
the interests of the country if they fell into the hands of any
other state, and a place of importance in the neighbourhood of
that coast, the island of Morocco would be 'placed in jeoparty.
He would have felt less anxiety on this subject
if he could find anywhere in this country the means of making
a display of strength on that coast. But the naval force of the
country was so reduced, that he did not know where his Noble
Frind opposite would look for the means of producing an
impression there. Negotiations were good, but it was
necessary they should be backed by some force—
( Hear, hear)—and he had the highest authority in that
House, that of the Noble Duke opposite. for such an opinion.
Ina debate on the 14th of August, 1838, on the state of their
commercial relations, the Noble Duke said he considered the
state of those relations was owing, in a great degree, to the ex-
tensive weakness and tottering condition of their naval esta-
blishment; and, further on, ha said he considered the naval
force of the country to be in too feeble and tottering a condition
to answer the purpose intended, of giving protection to
their commercial interests in all parts of the globe. Such
was the language of the Noble Duke in the
year 1838, at a time %%hen they had eighteen sail of the
line in commission in every part of the world, besides a
reserve at home of four or five ships of the line ; but
it was far different new, though it was quite obvious
there were questions pending, not only with regard to
Morocco, but with regard to the Oregon and Texas.
The present Government had succeeded to a fleet of twenty
' ships of the line. They were justified in making some reduc-
tion in that number, because there had not been of late the
same necessity for keeping up a great naval force a, had pre-
viously existed. But they had made reductions to a degree
which before had never been known or dreamt of. At the pre-
sent moment there was not in commission a single ship of the
line, except those employed as flag-ships for admirals. There
were nine ships of the line only in Commission at the present
moment. Of these, two were in the East Indies, one in the
West Indies ; there were three guard-ships. In the Mediter-
ranean fleet there was only one ship of the line, and than was
the flag ship; and there was the Albion, which had recently
been employed as the flag ship at Cork. The navy of England
consisted of only nine ships of the line, and that at a time when
the state of affairs abroad was such as necessarily to create the
greatest anxiety. He did not say there was any danger of war
but the manner in which the solution of the questions at present
pending would be brought about, would depend greatly
upon the respect in which we were held, and that respect
would be increased by our keeping up a respectable naval force.
He hoped his Noble Friend would tell them that he had re-
sources to appeal to. Considering the present state of
the French fleet, we ought to have have an increased
fleet in the Mediterranean. We ought not to abdi-
cate the command of the Meditterranean entirely to
Franee, but still to maintain our power in that sea. Not
only had his Noble Friend reduced the number of the ships of
the line, but he had also reduced the number of smaller
vessels.—( Hear, hear.) He besought their Lordships to
recollect all that had been said on former occasions as to
the necessity of keeping a reserve at home for the protection
of our own shores. He had not any apprehension of any
attach on our own shores, but he regretted the
reductions which had taken place in the naval force
in the Meditteranean. He could not see without uneasiness
the command of the naval foreedestined by France to act against
Morocco confided to the Prince de Joinville. He would re-
frain from saying anything reflecting on the charucter or con-
duct of his Royal Highness, but their Lordships could not but
recollect what had passed on a former occasion, and knowing
the sentiments which had recently been expressed by his Royal
Highness, he saw his appointment with regret. The
Noble Earl concluded by putting the question of
which he had given notice, namely, if it was the
intention of her Majesty's Government to adopt any,
and what, measures to send to the coast of Morocco or else-
where such naval force as may suffice for the protection of
British interests ?
The Earl of HADDINGTON was prepared to answer the
question of which the Noble Earl had given notice as to the
sending a British force to Morocco.
The Earl of AUNT() had yesterday given notice of his ques-
tion in the exact terms in which he had put it, and it was so
inserted in the votes. He had understood that the Secretary
of State would communicate his motion to his Noble Friend.
Lord B ROUG H A M—Read, read.

The Earl of MINTO then read the notice from the votes in
the precise words in which he had put the question.
The Earl of HADDINGTON had nut read the votes.
But he would take the Noble Earl's question in the terms
given—Morocco or elsewhere. They had heard the speech of
the Noble Earl with which he thought proper to introduce
the question. The practice of making long speeches in putting
questions was a most inconvenient one, and one
to which the Noble Earl was very partial. He
was about to reply to the Noble Earl's question, not to his
speech. Had he had any idea that the Noble Earl was
about to put a question respecting the distribution of the
whole force of the British navy, he should have thought
it necessarry to refresh his memory as to details
before he came down to answer that statement.
He never was more taken by !uprise in his life than by the
long speech the omnibus rebus connected with the British navy
that had been made by the Noble Earl. He thought the Noble
Earl ought to have waited for the presence of his Noble Friend
the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, as his speech involved so
much of diplomacy. The Noble Earl complained of the Go-
vernment leaving only one ship of the line in the Mediterra-
nean. At the time this step waa taken there was not the
slightest chance of the occurrences taking place
which had been lately threatened. It was not supposed by
the British Government, that because the French chose
to have a sailing squadron in the Mediterranean, that therefore
this country was to follow their example. The Noble Earl
should recollect, too, that the Mediterranean was not a distant
sea. In answer to the question of the Noble Earl, he begged to
state that her Majesty's Government had sent to Morocco such
forces as they thought the circumstances required, and if it was
necessary, it was in their power to add to that force. With re-
spect to elsewhere, he begged to state that the Govern-
ment had such forces in every station as they had
thought right for the preservation of British interests.
They had greatly increased their force on the Coast
of Africa. Ships had been sent out, and others had been or-
dered there, and nothing would have prevented them from
sending them out before but the necessity of having a force in
Ireland. He thought that he had proved that the statement of
the Noble Earl that Ministers had neglected British
interests, in all parts of the world, was totally without founda-
tion. As he had stated before, the Government had sent such
forces to Morocco as they thought the circumstances re-
quired, and that they would add to these forces if necessary.
He trusted, however, that the anticipated events in Morocco
would not take place.
MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS.
A :Message from the Commons, consisting of Sir George
Clerk, and other Members, brought up the Bank Charter Bill,
the Prisons' Discipline ( Scotland) Bill), the Linen Manufac-
tures t Ireland) Bill, ;the Education of the: Poor Bill, the
Edinburgh, Leith, and Granton Bill, and several other Bills.
The Marquis of Londonderry, the Earl of Roseberry, and
Lord Campbell, rose simultaneously to address the House.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY appealed to the Lord
Chancellor whether he had not a right to address their
Lordships on the subject which had just been under dis-
cussion.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said that, as the irregularity
had begun, he did not know where it was to terminate.
The Earl of HADDINGTON hoped that this would be
borne in mind in future. They often had Noble Lords rising
to speak five or six times when there was no question before
the House, and sometimes when there was a question.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said he begged to
move that the Noble Earl's returns be printed.— (Laughter. )
He was surprised to see the extreme sensitiveness of the Noble
Earl with regard to the force in the Mediterranean,
After the clear statement which they had heard
from the Noble Lord the Secretary of State, for Foreign
Affairs on a previous occasion. After the expla-
nations which had been made ire thought it was highly indis-
creet to re-open the subject. The Noble Earl (Aberdeen)
and conducted public affairs, not only with credit to himself,
but with advantage to the country. He thought that was
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