The Sun.
London, England, 1819-05-06 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Mr. CHARLES CALVERT pregented a pc:Winn
from St. Alartin against any increase of
the stipends to Ilie Cktgy —Oldered to be refer-
red to the Committee on the Clergy Bill.
air. preseateit to ptitiou flow Ipswich

".gains: Settlemcw to
on the tube.

SCOTS BURCaIs.
the
Mr. .MAXWELL presented a petition from
Inhabitants of Renfrew, praying for an Wer"
1131 Retoi ot the Scottish Boroughs. The Hon:
Member said that he entirely agreed with the pe.
titioners.—Read and ordered to lie on the table,
and to be pi toted.
The Hon. Mr. PRIMROSE that he had sig
petitions to peseta, all of -which 'were intitnatelY
connected with the Tiestion which. was to collie
before the House to-morrow night. TWO of then!
were from the Provost and Magistracy of
tli
,Borgli of Stirling, three of them from the Oil'.
terent Guilds and Incorporations of
place, and the remaining petition from the /31
.gesses of Minto. They were all against the
for the. regulation of. Scotch Burghs. which ba
been introduced into the House by the Lord Ad"
met ePt
vocate ; those that came front Stirling not
opposed the Nil gener.rlly, hut even prayed the",
if it
,were passed into 'a law. ihev might he exill
-empted hour its operk.tion. As he teas COW
his legs, he should take the opportunity of
licly contradicting an iw,inuation which Iced beetf
made by the Loid Advocate agaittit the reiltect`i:
the salad.
bility of the Burgesses of Scotland. sipeaking67l
well front own kaoWledge 89 from !he inforni
doll which he had received from other quarter Fib
must say that their charaCter, was as r:ir r,e
tr!q•!!rable as that. of any other class of men in tad
British empire.
• Mr. Hums presented a•petition froM the
Burgh of Montrose, against the Bill now bet'''. '
Parliament. for the regulation of the Sel'
Burghs. The petitioners stated, that the said "'
was calculated to give a permanency to ail the e,xi
isting abuses. They exptetiS• -I themselvesgra
.10 Government for restoring them to their corll"rd
rights, anti prayed that the extension might be•gle.:
nei al tit all the other Rorghs of Seot130:1•"°'
d. veil to lie or. the table and to be printed:
ovviri;
A new Icri.-t was moved for Shrewsbury,
to the death of Richard Lvster,
Mr. R. Davis reported from the Select Cog):
wittee on tine Truro Election Petition, ttiet =
sitting Members atere duly elected, 013 1.
the petition against them was not 'lricolutis
vexatious.

PUBLIC DISTRESS.
nee
Mr. iiumtt ptesented a petition fro.ll the ',„
rative weavers of Per:h, compiaiviog of the
!less of wages, and the, high price ot
The petiii-oners stateo, that under every vxert :'.16
of labour, their wages did not amount to II Lis
than ss. with which it was impofebill4 sns"„l-
their families,. who were ill a state of statvat„l%;
They prayed against any extension of the ,
,
Laws.—Ortlered•to lie on the tahle•

POOll. SETTLEMENT BILL,
Mr. GoocH nrescnte to peti:ion from sonic pl'
u
risk in the county of Suffol!:, against the P"'";
Settlement Bill. The pet iz ion,: ra stated, ll°
°Wing '0 the distress ‘vhictg existed among til
agricultural part. of the conuntinitY, the- i°l
grante
not possibly go on unless relief wer"
(hen), instead of fresh burthe,ls being 11HPOS"41
Ilielll. :11re Honourable Alenth,r said, ti"ii•,l
fully concurred In the ()pinions isilifch the 1"".a
tioners expressed. The Hgricollnral iotereotril c
never “ood.inote in need of tel;ef than it (1.1'; 9
piesent : the farmers wt?re even in a u
svo'st" e 5 :;
s;
than they were in 1815. lie was sortl::ip
that the petitions againtit this Bill. had trot
treated wittitlie respect which thty deserveait"
' .
G.:V.I F. LAWS. Witt
cert.
Mr. Cottvvv,2 presented a petition from
landholders i;i ih m e liulreds Of Desb„,rough St"ki.4
Bockiughimihire, complaining-of iii.i.•,,-ie; iiii.i,
had sostaiiivd in consetlitence of litesere4 ',xi
game. The petitioti stated, 'lllAt th
`vi e L'W:Ol
tnu tkets were si:pplifsd with g`nme by the oi le
Of these pieserets, who hT ad A the bPnelirf:``.ll i
the pfnielteus bore al the odium. Much l'ilrre-,
arose also from the 'spring gnus set in thee 111,4
serves. The Honourable Member declared' Is
'of
if he was on a July to investigate 111 e
,truss
life life by such means, he would agree to a V!' il
of murder. n 1. I:I
After some observations from Sir C. ":,),re; !'t
Sir C. Mooch, Mr. Colborne, and lit'. '1.4(1,11...•
who took the ypportunitv ,of postponing 11',...;. ii,e
titer consideration of the Be;,orf of the 41'''
Laws to Friday, the I•liii of M:0.,, the Pe; (i,i'itt
as well as ont. from the Poulterers of Lo! "'''4oo
layout of the Game .I.ws Amendmento'
ordered to lie on the table.- • ~ 101
Petitions were presented from.Wolverlog:464
and places adjoining, against the Pool. SOC.'
...
13i11.—Ordered to lie on the table.
HALFORD'S DIVORCE. parliOil
Sir E. KNATCHBULL iliOved the Chilli -r-- ''
of Halford's Divorce Bill. t iter
CAPTAIN l'etiaw said he had received a 'cod,
hoot the father of the unfortunate -lady, i''l%se•
s,tinence of which he should Move -that a e.: of
be added, making a'' provision fur her saPP°l"O4
-150/. a year during the life of her tatber'. •
3501,,0n his decease. ill
The SPCAKPAr intimated, that the clause c°l
not beluserted till alter the third re:ailing' ~,,etlf,'
Captain l'Et.Lcw then moved us all *swell"' slig,
IhPit the Bill,ne react 'the third -time this d"Y •
wombs. . •
74 Csitaj
After some remaiks front Mr. CUllwg-f- I,
' frie"
PELtew, mid Sir J. MAcKiNiOsn, ibe ca'
meut was withartie.a, the foig,„,,i questi°ll.
Lied, and the Bill read tile third time.' be"
Captain PeL.Lew then proposed the clOse .
fore -mentioned. , . ' . .I.
, Sir
:Mr. tin't's,Mr. LUSHINGTON, °fib
Ott
MACKINI,,,sH, opposed the snotioli'„
~(2,-,piaiii ', i )El..iov then withdr eot the Mi'ttiSer'ovii
an""derstanding au that agreeinent for aPi be.
gino for Mrs. Halford bad beet) coocitvic4t
sset" -'
tween the parties —The Bill.wa•th Ven , ' . .
a
MAD-ROUSES. '..- order 7.
On the motion ot Mr.- NV7tris,(we NI
n itte
the Day for the'forther cositietaoiou Of taridal
houses ReAulation Bill Wiii postponed till k _
Se'onight,
INVERKEITIIING ELECTION. , 1 6.00
Mr. W. DouGLAs preseured a Peti"'“ o•reof
Alexander Fraser, of liincolo's itin-firld', '''dir.i''
the •
to -7 Melaggart, E-q. praying that ~,,0000
for taking the Invetkeiihnig blection 1 0 54,0,
.inro consideration alight he postpone?! ": 01, P..
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the evidence by file day filed, viz- the Ith
Of May.
i:Nirt PRltsloosa opposer! the P etition ; the ap-
11)04catian t 0 th pposee ll.ltisc had been made 011 tae
he or Match, eil was nearly eight
t° Match,
which ii
he tihrnitT ell was rittitelnng en°";-:h
anal obtain the evidetn.e.—The Petition was feud,
orderer!to be laid on the table' •
I air. VV. DOUGLAS then moved,
lor t , •that the older
'alng it into consideration should be ,dis-
-darged, whet:,
tl,lBlll. J. NIACKINTOSII contended, that no rounds
atever hail been adduced to justify any delta
titre from the usual course of priweedslig• Ac-
leiw,j•
ing to the pueseut ease, every Men:her. for
hail only to ascertain ON .
(h the: r:iiitance flout
e N-eti."l'olls, and noon that claim exten-
-13441 of time ; without softie distinct cause assign-
,!ti, the liouse could not eutertatut tile motion ;
should, therefore, give it Ills decided opposi-
tion.
, a Lanni CA•
h Ttaa EAGH thought sufficient ground
d
1101 been siiewo its delay.
ai
„r 'ti' 0t,.„
•Jo4L ,%,•att •uns f„,;., Mr. WYNN and
• uitUGLAS i.it Prtittwit erms tvi0H11:4"l•
FERGusso.4.: est ed a petit ion from
I• ie incorpornied Trades of Burnt Island, 1"'"Y-
-in ne'st,"r,a the System of Royal Burghs
lr,--`)l"ni , —Order Ordered to lie. on the .1. a hle•
s
-•- .v.oItTLEV };resented. several Atetittpus
4411 Yo • " - Settlement Bill.
1 ) llte the oot
°l.4e'ed t lie oq the table,
lisp a. CittA' irAm preseitiscl 1 petition from Cur-
trup ia""lst the foot' Settlement Btu --()a the
, )11 that it lie on the.table,
tooCUßWENuxpressed his regret, that on this
dj,llieti d;lferCil fl'om his Constituestis. Ile
':(4)e, however, that the tern: of seven years
4.°""-1 be bill••:itwed in the But for thtee:
'ITCH oroered to he )roiled.
C lIA kvey post
4 toned until kiredllesd4y 1%!
--lit)11 tor leav to bring in a Bill to disable
tr,i,:h e i,'"'ets trout Witnesses in Suits for
th,, Parish.
ltlr PUBLIC-HOUsE LICENCES.Let HUMS prese.; eda Pi.tition from T. B.
poiv"4"11f1 enniplaining of the iireweis mono-
,.,'"R"ad and ordered to be laid On the table.
HF4"llowing. is
,the petition :
HbRooRABLE THE COMMONS OF THE fi
°f GREAT BRITAIN AN!) IIttLAN 0, IN FARLIAMEN
PETIT/ON of .liniv THOMAS BARBER BEAU-
; 51.,„ MoNT, F.sq
Cillfi,"!,ll--That your utitioner is Suffering' a virtual demo-,
tit% Ills properiY agPailist which the laws of this coitotof
Wii r'thess ; and his case being that of a nqu!titode.o
let "414,1ittioig, •citizebs, he -humbly appeals for that pi
willelt loyal subjects may expect from a just Goren
Vetill,al,Ynth' petitioner is ground landlord of upwardsi ?ifissecsi-
4thris".''!"-'s, at Shepherd's Bush, a village of t.n.tve, t
at
Prt.,s? uses,
through vow- petitioner's exertions.. ,
,the
ie
wan,';ti desire of is'te•tants, and to supply their reasond
.built a si:peri:n• public-house or inn in the centre
ih4 ii
.te,•A here two great cross roads meet, and at a iffis
T,a-
Ortb t.of
on inns road, and of three quarters o.
atly licensed
adhouse. Tnat srventan
s"
1-11"
.14; t' lieen me to the Licensing . its-
lo'r a license to open the house, hut,
Ile14:14
t •r has been always. refused. 'T hit
4 three )Tars sOter, granted
41'',1:1•:'" l
for mean a 'eki‘ir; t!. filched hoose, standing annost
to .
t;tiunl 16 6 .1 I , $Ollll • 'hundred yards distant tram y,ctnti. v 4 g
ILiddittaio
fur proem nig which license d
to the vestry eh, k, when the LIP
'Judge °svolicensed beearo, covered with
.houses,
(--! Pslitiot t's land' *bent,' denied the convenience. 0,f,.
,deserted. That 013 the last liceirstit.,
"-
'ee'udei
the tenant to the following
1411e"-":"Ve:tti'irin'ultn garliadi'ite':Uu( .liti.ense, bitcause 'your ccrti-
Jhst,fied Pair: t..),,q.;i.'es this, and we should nut re
.41T'l g'4lll.l*.ling".ul•r-..-,;:qe.wi;hoor their ce:rtificate
l'ett t oat "that was the only reason ofl
Xhiii..„efr'4l. • ilia. the 'Act 'of Parliamont :`named stick
7,go,a^.hipetative.. nor I,d the Nii,oister sant
.a,te Publican's c'estificate r thirty years. 1 ite licensers
b"ritsil" aehnowled.,el upon oath, that they had deter-
nbin. "t . petit Tuner's Inut3e before any
neense jour !i.e.,
Minister's certificate was. meat limed ; and, to
t-`ll,iceti • an hour's time of their refusing to. deliive_r,
t'lru.e,„": "3' juor petitioner's laicise, on the above ground qtr v,rtcetlr "t. I !).,. e•ineurrent act of the minister, they granted
irr favour's& 'a brewer in the neighhour hum ,
s';'ssei:'!Or for two lowti 'dint, houses, which had been sop-
-Y Eniner Magistrates"as disorderly, each halo; it►
Parish, and Situated within a few yards of similar
‘)1. Ilia ',N.,!'44Y iicenced, not only ,vittuott any concurrentact.
(
cuttt
.lister ht ill. opposition to Lis earnest
entreaty
Manse,Li""h letter read at the*:ilerting', that one of these
yob rt
paicular not hr licroierd.
f re that in this country no relief
Rit
h fur iu•iiestiffev;:r under the most corrupt refusal
Cr t.ot:tt he' , still tln,ught that some forth-eloper might. be
Kalßtaorl justice, -by bringing the illative. cose 'hefeneea_
tuffittinel, p0vi,,,,, therefore, the deceit and ildl
the
rea'"h assigi'ied by the iicencers for their de
-
;qfar eoutrastiii, 'the facility of their grants ot.lteences
ui 116741'1y houses"in clusters in favont- of one interest,
"r seven year''. refusal of licence:of a very superior
suck; st iinsagainst another interest, he
410,1t!nned 14 lit nit tEo'l crine why a crionnal
Kin,,, '..not be against them the Court
Prtted6l.lt although the above facts were full?,
• 4hd reethe affidavit- of inn. petitioner and his tenants,
I'l in the affidavits of the defendants,
14011 " That, was tio legal proof of a corrupt
tti"..e'ret?,tr.h! Ithie ti'stastitt:tarleoalo tied, all which your r4ttuti (4'13; to prove b - evidence. In this state or pro.
l'ithsel‘f " civil rights to )arbitrarv‘wills, your petitioner for
i"( 1 fur his fellow-sob
44jects, humbly claims such pro-
' to 1,,44 the inutlensive occupation of his and their estates,
4.lllgnourable House shall seem Meet, and sour pc,-
l e"r p ray. I'. B. J. BAiti;L 8EA1.4),10N1.
..v!,I4NET presented a Petition from between
.:4-a1n,10) "u 0 Licensed Victuallers iti the Cities of
walk and AVSlntinster, and Borough of Soot
il
,gainat the present Licensing System, and
der sf I°E. relict. The Petition, m etition, the Hon. Me-
lit,tB-‘4l, contained noloy strong and stubborn
by the' 'v,. cutiiii not be refitted, as corroborated
401 e
most mideoiable evidence.
the
.Petition was read, and ordered to lie on
„
Arottli BEr3IaET theri, as an introductiOn to his
teshecae.d tnotion for an Amendment of the Law
• the Itng LketisiDg Public Houses, stated, that
• Prese
n,.t:11, 35, ot Act was that of the 26th George 11.
• 4"..annutillY which the Licensing System became
Aistim ork, under tlte eon:rout of the Ma-
ts
ttlii •It WaS not, as formerly, that the li-
e shout
teogui (1 be continued till the forfeiture of the
aQom' !'`llleto Or till the house was pot down as
the 111" n nuisance for the disorderly conduct of
,
as "ii application fur a license, it
tap "%sarY that 1
• the cit tr. petition should be signed
• iticate ergYin3n and Church Wardens, or a 4cer•
‘t ti) that of
lcigirgyihttis tel. In some places, where the
aolt:s,stiartilrcote.tsi the scruples of cout•eience,
otrae, h". there wt re nu public booties.—
ticate
1., r the Beadle procured the certi-
iqttrtittisi
.7:).41 Iles of the Clergyman, Church
of t fie :I Chet seers. remedy the objc-
-1 rgYillah) lllC Hon. "Aitnlber meant

.ta 'Oita the signaillres
iii ~~t};tasirs thotild be at!,!etl to titoti:,. of the Chutett
W,,t(!cnt tiversvers ; or th,it the certificate

should 11,ive the signatiiies of 12 te§tii.ctablet ihha-
hirantF,, tvithoot those Of Any of her ant tiori!y:.._ lie

tlioo;-4ilt it also necessary that the certifionte
should he tram the park!) where the applicant Or
petitioner last lived, end not trom ‘vbere be then
resided, or was about to reside. lie could Men-
tion many cases in Which the most partial conduct
and injustice had been manifeSteti on the part of
the Licensing Magistrate or Niiigistrates. He

would prove that lio:iscs had been licensed for
those who kept receptacles for thieves, or were
occupied as brothels, If, however, they were put
down on one side of tie street, they had only to

remove to the other side, where they eOulti easily

procure a license, and renew their scandalous ca-
reer. With certain amendments for these griev-

anew, he should Propose ►hat there be three (I.e-

gl.reel in the forfciture of recognizance. Fur the
first offence, he proposed a small fine ; for the se-
cond, 501. ; and for the third, 1001., or a total
forfeiture of the lternse. in noticing these mal-

practices, he did not mean to slur or to implicate
the Magistracy at large ; he only stated facts,
which lie would prove by the most iocootroverti-
hie proofs or affidavits. In a conversation %vitt'

Sir Nathaniel Conant, be had maintained that a

Magistrate had a right to refuse the ienewal,of
license, without assigning arty cause to the parties
interested. For this grievance lie would also pro-
pose a remedy. He lamented the; in maey cases
political influence' had been used in granting and
withdrawing Licruces. Lie (mid mention certain
towns in which such ieflueoce had been used, and
could confirm his allegations by affidavits, it re-
golfed. It could not -therefore be denied that
the power of the Magistrates had thus been
corruptly used. Why the old constitutional
mode had been abandoned he could not tell, un-
less for .the sake of tevenue and the command
of political influence. In the days of Q.ieen
Anne it amounted to Is. only ; by the 26th Geo..
11. it extended to 20s. • He proposed that the
maximum of the forfeiture should he 1001. or
sending the case to a Jury. He detailed the gra-
dual scale of forfeitures. lie also noticed, and
severely censored, the caprice or whims of Ma-
gistrates on granting Licences. To some land-
lords they saidyou must alter your bar ;
to another—alter your tap; to auother—
don't put a painted barrel up, for that notifies
that you meats to encourage drunkenness ; to ano-
ther, you look too much like a gentleman, and
appear above ytnir business; to :soother, you are
too fat, or dress ton well. 'rhos there was no
end of their intolerable asinmp;ion of power.
He proposed. that the appeals should in tuture
be front the Licensing Magistrates to the Mag is-
trates of the Quarter Sessiot.s. It was a well
known evil, that Brewers took public houses, and
forced the landlords whom they pot in them to
receive their beer, Ist-tether good or bad, or defi-
cient in Meastire. There was not a public house
in his neighbonrhood which•was not in the hands
of- brewers. At Maidstoue, he was informed,
(hat no los ;hail tot ty belonged to them. e

consequence was, that the public ha; t, not Lair
play. It Gentlemen tasted good malt liquor, and
,compared it with the trash sold in those houses,
they would know the extent of the evil, This
arose from Licences havint4 fallen into the hands
Brewers, in consequence of the present system.
He bopeil there would he no object ion to allow
this Bill Jo' be brought in, and that if it reached a
COututitree; the House would apply itself seriously

to remedy .the evils which be 11;.ideseribed.
concluded by asking leave to bring in a Bill for
better regulating (he granting of Licences to Pub-
licaus.—Leare granted.
PARTNERSHIPS IN 'IRELAND.

Mr. A1(4'11)811 WOOD observed, that it was well
known that the sufferings of the lower classes in
It eland arose in a great measure from want of Ca-
pital. Mere were ltws in existence to encourage
Partnerships, with the view of facilitating the
employment of the poor. Those laws had pro-
duced some good, but they were very imperfect,
and he wished that they srould be repealed, and
that their spirit should be consolidated in a new
Act, supplying their deficiencies and correcting
their defects. He should therefore ask leave to
bring in a Bill to promote the employment of the
pour iu fisheries, trade, and manufactures, in Ire-
land, by regulating the contracting of partner-
ships in that part of the United Kingdom.
Mr, GRANT was, nntlerstood to say, that he
should not oppose the introduction of the Bill,
but should not pledge himself- to ita support.
Mr. PLUNKkT stated, that an Act had already
been in existence for forty years in Ireland, to
citable persons to invest certain sums of money in
trade, the amount of which was to be-registered
with their names, after which the rest of their
property was sate; and in the event of any loss,
they could noc be made responsible for more than
they had lent. But there was this important
tiit-
f.rence, that the persons so investing their fonds
were not allowed to engage in the trade them-
selves, whereas the present Bill gave them the
right of appointing the acting partner, and keepiog
iu their hands the dnection of the whole. This
was against the law of the-country and establish.
ed commercial principles. For individuals, would
be allowed to trade to an on!imited amount,whilst
they would give a limited security to the pohlic.
Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN said a few words
which. were not audible in the Gallery.
• Mr. Alderman Wont, contended that ,nothing
cou:d be fairer than that those who entrusted
their property should have a right to appoint the
active •partner. lie had,' besides, dune nothing
more in this than copy the very words of the lot-

titer Act.
The CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER conceived
that the:matter requiree, to he watched with the
greatest cautiln, topievent acting partners front
ohtaining false credit by pretending that the whole
property of their colleagues was engaged in the
concern. • The Bill, in fact, went to an unlimit-
ed creation of small joint stock companies.'
Atter a few obt.ervations from Mr. FOSTER,
Mr. LESLIE FOSTER, Mr. P,LUNKET, Mr. Alder-
man Woof), and Sir JOHN NBWPOItT, leave Wtis
given to bring in the Bill.
1113NN P,T brought in the Alehouse
Licens-
which ntri read a first I.lw,

And ride cci fba' a sCCBnil on
night.

SCOTCH AC'A'S Of PARtIAMENT.

Mr. BOSWRLL, atter a tew observations, rrio-siea
for leave to bring in aMU declare Acts of Par.
Hameln in Scotlain passed since the Union, ne:
to nave fallen in tistiettitie from non-observance
or contrary elision). _ _

The LOSD ADVOCATE, Said, it :vas not under-
stood that such Acts had fallen into desuetude ;
the contrary being always maintained iu Scotland ;
and it bras therefore for the CO determine
how far this motion 'mai called for.—The motion
was agreed to.
LORI) JUSTICE nr.NERAL or stInTLAND BILL.
Mr. J. P. GRANT polled ild• Friday oext
his motion tor the Ilinlse to. resolve itself ;nto a
Committee oa the Lord Justice General Of S,:ot.;.
land Bill.

IRISH WINDONI"fAX.
Mr. SilaW had said, on a former occasion, that
he had never known any question which had ex-
cited more interest among the Citizens of Dublin
than the Window Tax. Ile t,:;iot now add, that

that interest had continued to increase. He now

called tor a calm and full investigation of the
subject, anti he Was t 011Vineed that if it were
given, the result would he favourable tO the
tiliners and the object of his tuotion. Two prin.
Pipit' objections h6d brew urged against tie repeal

of the lax, when the subject was last before the
flouse.. One was, (kat to repeal the Tax would

be brenking our faith to the Public Creditor, by
diminishing the security on ►ehich he had ad-

vanced his motley. But this argument went too
far, and'it it were admitted, no Tax could ever be
repealed. The second objection was, that the
Tax was not a 'kVA. Tax. But the 4th chapter of
the 40A) of the King made it so; and the Act
expresvd,that it would be levied for three years,
provided' the war lasted so long. Since its crea.;.
lion, there had teen an unvaried conviction in the
minds of the Irish people that it was only. a War
Tax, and would cease with it, and its amount was
comparatively so very small, that it would be a
poor compensation for the forfeiture of the con-
fidence of the country, which must necessarily
ensue if it were not repealed. He then read
an extract of the Debates in the Irish Parliament,
when the Tax was first proposed, in June 1800.
The Chancellor of the Exchequer, Mr. Isaac
Corry, had then described it as a ‘Var Tax, and.
to remove all objections to it, had moved as ail
Amendment, " That it should last for three years,
provided the war lasted so long." A pledge had
till's beets given to Ireland, which it became the
House to redeem. He then compared the produce
of the Tax during the last four yea's, so show that
its revenue had fallen off 157,9031. during that
period. Such a Tax was scarcely worthy what
all Ireland considered is violation of good faith.—
He would also Feudist! the Howse. that England
had been relieved of 'l4 millions of taxes since the
peace,.whilst its Ireland no hind of local taxation
had been removed. He then moved that a Select
Committee be appointed, to consider the expe-
diency of repealing the 26 Is of the King, as far
as respects the 1 ax upon Windows to 1.•elasol.
The CHANCFLLOR of the ExcustauEa
hoped that the libetal view wkieh Partialnem had
tares ill a former Session of the elt:4tessiog situa-
tion of irelatul would .have rendered, it impossible
that another appeal should come to the House.
on the satire que,tion. Admitting the tax to have
'been a war tax, should it not become permanent
when a pe•usanent debt had been founded upon it ?
When Mr. Pitt had introduced the Property Tax
iu 1793; it was also a war tax ; but when a large
funded debt hail beets formed upon i;, it had be-
come •so permanent, that when Mr. Pitt's suc-
cessor proposed to give it np,. he suggested other
taxes as its substitutes. 41m. we were not more.

bound to repeal-the Irish than the English Win=
dow Tax. Jr. land. had incurred a debt of
one hundred and four millions of capital in .this
country, and'its charge arose to 4,500,0001., or
about , the whole extent of her revenue. ,The
lion. Gentleman had appealed to the great num-
ber of taxes from which England had been te-
lieved, but Ireland had also experienced propor-
tionate relief. If she had not bten rescued, like
England, from the enormous burette!) of the Pro-
pvit y Tax, it was because
,she 1,44 ncver paid
it since the peace. Ireland had been relieved in
common with England of the tax upon Malt, that
upon Stills, and of a portion of the- Assessed
'f ax es , to the amount .of 183,0001. Irish currency.
In ISIS, 270,0001. had been taken off the Assess-

ell Taxes,•including half the IVindow Tax, and
Wiling the last three gnartets of the year. a re-
duction had been etreced in the Assessed Taxes
'from 480,0001. to 370,000 I: A's to the efleut
of the present Tax upon the health of the peo-
ple, the [Lmonrable Gentleinan had himself af-
forded an answer, by mentioning the orders
issued by the Irish Governmety' for suffering
windows to be opened without paying any duty.
All :houses having seven windows in Ireland were
exempted from the tax, while in England the ex-
emption only extended to those with six windows.
Nearly one million of houses paid the window
duty in England, of one half the number of
hott%es, which did not exceed two Millions, whilst
in Irelac,d not abuse one-touttir paid the ditty.
filar on lotiging•houscs had been re:bleed to tine
shilling per window. He must protest against
any pretended breach of good faith, and against
the fait her reduction of the revenue of Ireland,
which had beets already so considerably dinsi-

nished. •
1111. VERFEAR Ana Mr. CAREW Were understood
to support the motion.
ST G. HILL opposed it, notwithstand;n:; the
regret which he telt at being,ohliged to act con-
trary to the wishes of his constituents. He de-
nied that atty pledge had been given by Mr. Corry
that the Tax would be a War Tax ; but, even it
it bad, there had been a vicissitude of war and
peace since that time, and the pledge must have
been entirely done away. lie dtd not think that
Ireland had any claim to a less pressure of Taxes.
than was borne by Scotland, who paid nearly at
the same rate as Lngland. The ag,rictibutists in
Ireland were almost universally exempted from
the Window Tax, because it did not reach houses
which had three hearths and seven Vtindows. He
then compared the charge for the .interest of the
debt with tie ievenue of Ireland-. '[he latter ex-
, ceetietithe bonnet by only 118,0001. But, it the

. ,
eitietieeig of the ad:lett to thd
charge for the debt of Ireland, the stho'e would
antoont to 9.229,7691., leaving a suit' of
4,657,7921'; to be Itnied in thk coon!iv. In thred

vekirs Irehisid hii4 been relieved of Taxes to the

amoont of more thati One terling. lie

should therefore object to any further reduction.
Mr. Coftv. contended that Mr. Corry had -pro-
posed the Window Fax as a war tat, and thAt the

words of the Act justified that inferprettitior.—:.
The tax wes most seterely felt in Ireland. 'Dili

was proved by the fact of 3'2,000 notices of dis-

continuance been received wil;in a very
limited period. it the ditties on windows we!6

made perinanent; they would operate as a tzot.
upon fivWZation in Ireland, and tend to perpe-
'route that state of things which every. friend u
the Sister Country must feel anxious should no
longer exist, if it were possible to afford relief.

I'LLiNxef said, in no inst3nce hid he
known a revenue qoestiim affecting Ireland to be
ciiscus.!ed in that House but with the Inmost con-

sideration for the Sister Country. tin the pre-,
sent occasion he expected the motion beiore the

House would be rtc.eiiretl with the utmost kiud—

ness by the English part of the House, rsntl tat
that part of it he should most particularly address
himself. He was of opinion such a tax would
oppose the improvement of Ireland ; and heath-,
jected to it, that one-tourth of it would fall on thd
City of Deb;hi, which had been miserably impo-
verished by the Union, and which was not in
condition to bear the burden. He showed that the
tax was fast &dinkier ; and,theretore maintained
that it woula be policy to substitute another
for it. It appeared that 34,424 notices of discon-
tinuance of windows had been given, of which
3501 cone from Dublin Moue, and.it might be
interred that the distress -was great which would
thus drive men to deny themselves the light of
heaved, and a free circulation of air. In behalf
of the sufferers he now appealed to the genero-
sity of Englishmen. and he telt that he should not
appeal in vain. The Right Hon. Gentleman
posite had said those who proposed to repeal this
Tax ought to be prepared to name a substitute for
it. This, however, was not their duty, but that
of the Chancellor of the Exchecpier, aud if the
Right Hon. Gentleman It'll himself unequal 10
the task, without meaning any thing disrespect-
ful, he would say that he ought to resign his si-
tuation to some one more capable of filing it with
advantage to the country.
' Mr, C. GRANT had not been able to discover
that any pledge had been given that the Window.
Tax teas only to continue tinting the war. lii
proof of this, he gave the history of the 'lax, and
showed that if that were merely a war duty, other
ditties which were regarded as permanent were
hi the same predicament. The enactment which
the Right than. Gent. (Mr, Minket) regarded.
as limiting the Tax to three years, lie viewed as
merely limiting the peculiar mode of collecting
the duties according to the rates of wiroloWs
twuses to that period, if the war should conti-
nue so long. Within the three years the war
ceased; the scale was altered, but the Tax conti-
nued. In 1803, therrnewal of it was proposed.
in that House by tlte Right Hon. Gentleman who
had first introduced it. Mr. Curry was then re-
minded of the pledge which he was .opposed to
have given. lie denied having gist-u such pledge;
and in this lie was borne out by the testimony of
malty Members then preaeet, and finally by the
House itself. Tastes originally proposed in time
of war, had in many iustances been contieued
after the war had terminated.. Since the last
peace, Excise ditties, amounting to 4.500,0001.
had been continued as eermanent Taxi,, and
thereforehe must contend, that no principle of
good faith towards Ireland was involved hi the
present question. He wished to God, the dis-
tress of Ireland could be relieved, but the general.
interests of the Empire were to be bottle in mind,
anti no serer way of breaking down our finance;
could be devised than the course now taken of
attacking tax after tax, making out a case of (Us•
truss, and claimiog exemption from them. The
Window Tax did. not !ouch houses that contained
fewer than seven windows and four hearths.
Consequence of the representations made of the
state-of the fever in Ireland, the tax had been re•
duced, so that of 440,0001. 235,0001. had in tact
been given up. The burdens which 'had fallen
on Ireland through the war were unavoidable.—
lf she adhered to England as she ought, and as
she did, nobly fighting the battles of the Empire,
it was impossible fur her to escape the painfu►
condition of her greatness and, her duty. Eng-
land, he maintained, had shown great indulgcnez
towards 'rattail ; and after all that had alit ad/
been done in her favour, he could not support
the present motion. •
Sir JOHN NEWPORT contended, that rite rate
was too,high on Ireland from the first. She might
as well have been asked to pay 15 as two 17ths.
She had already paid more than her share, and
was absolutely unable to pay any more. The se-
veral taxes on Ireland which had been proposed
to the House, by different 'Ministers, between the
years 1808 and 1817, had been rated at 3,500;0001..
a•year ; taut the amours' of the produce in 1817,
beyond that of 1808,, had not exceeded 50,0001.
Thus, where an increase of 3,000,0001. lied been
calculated on, no more than 50,0001. had been,
realized. This could not proceed from the de-
fective calculations of the Ministers who had pro-
posed these taxes, for some of them were men of
acknowledged tdents. It arose entirely from the
inability, not thennwillinguess, of Ireland to con-
tribute.
Lord CASTLEREAGH would go along with the
Right Hon, Gentletnap in saying, that evert if the
Lintel( had not taken place, Ireland would still
.leave adhered to England iu the late glorious
struggle ; that she would still have fought and
bled in the contest against the common enemy.
But let Ireland know that she bad tint only bet it
enabled to tight the common battle by the com-
mon resources of the empire, but that by the ar-
raug,ement of consolidating the resources nt the
two countries, she had also been enabled to get
rid of her own huldens. During 18 years of war,
the quota which she had furuished h.td been below
her proportion in the actual ext,enditure 3 so
that this country, not only by tier credit, hilt
by actual contribution, bole a part et Ire.
hold's burdens. The burden of the taxes, God
knew, was severe enough, and it was not fair to

prevellt any part of the cotnmnnity froth bearing
with patience their share of the pressure by tell-
ing them that they were not kindly treated. It
should be remembered that Ireland had paid no
op,rty Tax, ,bile this country had paid
200,000,0001., Ile would grant that Ireland was
not able to hear that tax, although Scotland had
borne it ; but to say that she was unable to bear
window tax would he to represent her poverty
as ridiculous. After having been relieved from
5,000,0001. of war taxes, was she now to claim
an es:caption from all taxes Ile should be glad
to know on whaf grounds he as an Irishman was
to argue, thit if England had consented that
4,500,0001. called War taxes, should become per-
petual, Ireland could not contribute to the exi-
grnnics of the state the sum of 200,0001.
WILBERFOUCE considered that we owed a
long atrear ,of kindness to Ireland, and were
bound to show a just affection towards our sister
country and our friend, and to prove that we va-
lued her happiness and interest as our own, but
still he could not agree with the present motion.
Ile must resist the claim as a right as wholly un-
tenable, and this country was not in circum-
stances to answer the appeal made to her fiber-
.ality in the manner that could be wished.
Mr. HUTCHINSON denied that ever Ireland had
flourished since the passing of that diabolical mea-
sure, the Union Act. The Window Tax was felt
so severely, that any tax instead of it would, he
was sure, be thankfully received. Ireland had
not been relieved as she ought- to have been since
the I'. ace. She bad been relieved to the amount
of 400,0001.. while England and Scotland had
hag taxes taken off amounting to about
17,500,0001. Or this about 1,000,0001. was
comprehended in the Property Tax. Looking,
then,, at what had been taken off besides the Pro-
perty Tax, in England and Scotland, it would be
seen tha't Ireland had not had her Lair portion of

relief.
Mr. MARTIN, of Galway, said, that for the first
few hours he had felt the greatest difficulty as to
how he should vote on the present occasion. But
he carried with hint this justification, that l►e
should vote with the Right Hon. the Secretary
for Ireland—under the shield and protection of
his popularity.—(Laughter.)—He had heard from
the Hon. Member who spoke last, a long detail
of the grievances priuluced by the Union. but
nevertheless he took to himself credit for having
toted for that measure with many friends of that
Member —Sir J. NEWPORT explained.
Mr. GRATTAN Saidy one of the evils of this
Tae teas, that it led to a competition of reproach
between the two countries alter the marriage
bad, taken place. But it WB4 to be considered
whether the Tax was not productive of some
great domestic evils as connected with the state
of health. The conduct of the Chancellor of the
Exchequer on this snbject did hint great et edit.
Thst Right Hon. Gentleman had caused certain
queries relating to this part of the subject to be
put to the City of Duhiit►. The answers to these
queries contained a dismal account_ of the num-
ber of houses unoecti;iied and retorted insol-
vent in the various parishes. The statements in
these answers were a much better argument than
any vthich lie could lay before the House, and
proved sufficiently the necessity of acceding to
the motion.

Sir N. COLTHURST insisted on the injurious ef-
fects Ot this tax on the health of the people. It
was also an unequal tax ; consistently with the
notice which he had last year given, and with his
honest conviction, he should vote for the motion.
Mr. COLCLOUGH said he was astonished that
the most important reason for agreeing to this
motion had escaped so much sagacity—namely,
that this tax produced the scrofula.—(Much
cougbitoz.)
Mr. MattEYATT said, he thought humanity and
morality were in this case much better supported
than the Revenue, and be was resolved to give
his. support to that side,which needed it most.—
Eve!) with a view to humanity, philauthropy, and
morality, he should vote against the motion.
Mr. CALLAGHAN voted for the proposition of
repeal—first, because the tax was so unpopular
in hehnd, that its rectipts were not worth the
sacrifice—next, that Ireland had not her propor-
tionate remission of taxation since the arrival of
the peace. It would be wise to commute such a
tax, when the popular odium was so expressed.
Mr. C. FoasEs rose amidst much coughing and
other symptoms of impatience. He said`that one
would suppose, from the impatience of the Mem-
bers below the bar, that, like himself, they bad
gone without their dinner.---(Laugher.)--He ex-
pressed his dtteiniiitatioo to vote for the motion.
Ile would ask, whether any Member supposed
that, if the Irish Parliament was now in exist-
ence, this tax would have been now in existence.
The House then divided— .
_ Ayes 73

150
Majority against the Motion

Sir JOIIN NEWPORT asked the Right Hon. Gentleman
whether he had ever turned his attention to the enormous
sums charged against the Government of Ireland for Sta—
tionery supplied to the Public Officers in Ireland under an
alleged patent ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that the
subject had been last year taken into consideration, and the
preiient system revised.
Sir .101 IN NE wrytT asked whether any step had been
taken to open the supply of stationery to competition ? As
to the alleged patent, it was a dangerous power in the
Crown, and might he carried to an extent nearly as great as
time monopolies denounced by Parliament in the Reign of
Queen Elizaliet h.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that com-
petition was excluded by the patent ; but that steps had been
taken to prevent the evils complained of.
The Desuetude Scots Acts Bill was brought in, read a srst
tis,me, and ordered to be read a second time on the 13th of
Nay.
'I he other Orders of the Day were then disposed - of, and
the [louse adjourned at Twelve o'Clock.

We regret to le9rti, that the Duchess of Gum-
CESTBit his found it nceessiry to call in INIr. STB-
ti Nso N , of Great itassell-street, in consultation
with Sir I-lENtr: lIALFORD, for an affection of
her Royal Highness's ear.
A General Court of Proprietors of East India
Stock was lield yesterday, for the purpose of con.
sileiing a resolotton of 114 e Court of Directors,
granting the sow of 60,0001. to the Marquess of
1-lAsrlNGs—!)nt au iniortn-ality appearing in the
touot• iii bilitgiog the Itesoitition before the Pro-
ie•ou,, the Court adjourned the question until
Wco:;csday the 2611 i instant.

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