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cinets of Parliament." And when do yos suppose Were thistle
eleven years? In the reign of Queen Elizabseti4iin the reifies• -
of Queen Ann ?—ln ,the reign of that consul ...
George 111., of whom we have heard se much ?-eet_ ',-
Not so; but in the reign of Charles 11., at that haPp;r_tri,.e
when England was the minion and hireling of France F
Ireland was treated as a conquest and the Irish as saiages;•
when a very energetic member of the very energetic family a,
Grahams was sabreing Cameronians, and dragooning Scotland
into episcopacy.—(Cheers, and laughter.) These were the anni
mirabiles of the Right Hon. Gentleman ; 1 am sure the Right
Hon. Horne Secretary will not wish for their recurrence. But
the Right Hun. Gentleman (Mr. Gladstone) on Friday last ad-
vanced his reasons in favour of this measure ; and I must say,
if ever a good cause was defended by a had apology it was upon
that occasion, because the Right Hon. Gentleman again came
forward with the old principle of "a compact and apledee."
A pledge ! And what was Catholic emancipation . What
was the abolition of ten bishoprics in Ireland? What the
Charitable Bequests Bill the other day ?—( Hear.) What ?
You will not hear the trumpet-tongue of the Legislature, year
after year, and session after session, proclaiming toleration
but you pretend to be guided by the whisper of a Minister, and
the hear-say of an engagement as old as the eighteenth century 1.
—( Laughter, and cheers.) But, upon these refinements, I
would fain address the Right Hon. Gentleman in languoge
made use of by a great trade Minister to a great theologian
with a theory.—( A laugh.) Colbert said to Bossuet—when
he was urging some of those arguments which eventually ended
in the revocation of the edict of Nantes—" All this belongs to
your conscience of the Sorbonne ; there is another conscience
within you—let that speak." So now I would fain say to the
Right Hon. Gentleman—" All this belongs to your conscience
of Oxford • there is another conscience within you—let that
speak."—(Loud sheers.) It will tell the Right Honourable
Gentleman to put things before him more broadly and
to the purpose ; it will tell him that an ardent
and a susceptible people, whose alliance with their
priesthood was solemnised in a time of tribulation and
misfortune, is not to be divorced from them in the first
dawn of a happier eraese( Hear, hear.) Not open violence—
not " the vicious perfection: of the law—not arms Bills, not
coercion Bills, not laws of ntortmain by which you harassed
them, not cy-pres constructions by which you robbed them—
none of these things have been able to put asunder " those
whom persecution " had joined together.' —( Cheers.) And
Sir, this more insidious design will also fail, which is lisping
with all the insolent euphuism of an old proprietary, that you
will disarm the Irish priest by making bin: a gentleman.--
( Renewed cheers.) A gentleman ! that .s, something more of an
abbe, and something less of a cure—something more of a
chaplain, and something less of a priest—one: who will look
more to the patron, and care less for the poor; in a word, "a
man of the world," but. net of the next world.—; Cheers. )
This design to It also fail; or, it it succeed, I pity yous. short.
sightedness. Elevate the Irish priest from the sphe.-e in
which he moves, and acts,, and has his useful being, and
destroy his influence. It is because he is of the commons theee
he lead , the commons —( Hear.) I know that, upon this matter
I am at issue with nearly the whole of the house—(No, no)—
but I know that a greater legislator (with ail respect be it
said) than any in this House—that that Napoleoa, of whom it
will be said that not the least of his many miracles was that
he gave back Christianity to France—has recorded his
opinion that a priesthood for the people should be of
the people.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") Besides, Sir, I
have myself seen the prelacy of Ireland. It was on the day
of a great solemnity at Maynooth. Plain men they were, poor
men ; the same euphuism might brand them as vulgar men.
'there was about them none of that splendour and array for
which the Church of Rome is so rebuked ; no pomp, no repre-
sentation. But lam wrong ; there was representation ; but
it was not the representation of so many thousands a year, but
of so many millions of souls.—( Hear, hear.) It is these men
that the Hight Hon. Gentleman (Sir R. Peel) makes his
friends. They will remember that, notwithstanding a powerful
opposition, he brought forward a measure a conciliation with-
out restriction and without conditions.—(Cti.eers.) And in
that hour of emergency and crisis, which those Who look at
nations and not at Cabinets know cannot be distant— in that
hour of emergency and crisis, when your entente cordiale with
France shall fail you (as it surely will fail you), you will ho .e
an entente cordiale with Ireland to supply its place.—(Losot
cheers.) In that day, when the Right Hon. Gentleman (Sir
R. Peel) shall be called upon to rally round him the energies
of this mighty empire—for he alone, notwithstanding all this
temporary clamour, represents its acquirements—(Cheers)--
he will be able to adopt to the enemies of England, be they at
Washington, or be they at Paris, the solemn and beautiful lan-
guage of the Noble Lord the Member for London,—" Our
Queen reigns over a united people."—( Continued cheering.)
Mr. REDINGTON, as an Irish- Member, and a Roman
Catholic, wished to express his opinion, which interested the
religion which he professed. Whatever turn the debate may
the question would be of the greatest importance to
Ireland. As an Irish Roman Catholic, he wished to express
his gratification on account of the temper, tone, and manner in
which this question bad been discussed. The eloquent Mem-
ber for Canterbury, and the Noble Lord the Member for
Newark, had made speeches which ought to be models to the
people of this country ; they would have the effect of recon-
ciling two nations which, if they were to be united, ought to
be united in every sense of the word. He heard, at the
same time, opinions which ought not to weigh in that
assembly on the measures which were now before them.
He would now turn to the question that had been repeatedly
put, namely—Why did not the Catholic people of Ireland en-
dow their College themselves ? And in answer to that he would
ask another question, namely—ln what position were the Ca-
tholics of Ireland left in the year 1795 ? The Catholics had
been up to that time banished from their country, and left
without religious places of worship—without property—without.
anything. Pitt established the College of Maynooth in 1795,
but up to that time, all the institutions of the Irish Catholics
having been abolished, it was scarcely to be hoped that May.
nooth should be the first to engage their attention. Let it be
recollected, that the Catholics of Ireland had' supported
the Colleges of Armagh, of Tuant, of Wexford, and
many others, of the wealth and usefulness of which they
had been twice plundered, }et had twice endowed.—(Cheer;.)
He had heard it said that the people of Ireland were idolators,
but he would pass over that, as unworthy of notice ' • neither
would he stop to answer the accusation that Roman Catholics
worshipped the Virgin Mary, for in doing so he would
be attempting to defend a faith that had endured,
unchanged, for eighteen centuries. But this he would
say, that if the English Government were anxious to
have the union of the two countries as a real union of Great
Britain and Ireland, they would treat Ireland with common
justice. He had heard much said about the voluntary prin.
ciple—he had great respect for those who held that opinion,
for he would say there was more danger in paying no religion
than in paying one. But he would say the English Govern-
ment should adopt the plan of continental countries,
and ply all instead of Haying but one.—( Hear, hear.)
He felt that the Right Him. Baronet had generously come
forward with respect to this measure. But this was not the
first time that the Right Hon. Ihronet had bowed to a moral
necessity which he could not conf rout. He (Mr. Redington)
remembered the time when Members of his persuasion
were first allowed to enter that House. At that
time the Right Honourable Baronet bowed to a moral
necessity which he could not controut. He (Mr.
Redington) believed that the Right Hon. Gentleman
had yet many snore necessities to bow to. Although the Right
Hon. Baronet had come forward in a generous manner, this
measure could only be looked upon as a triumph of those prin-
ciples which had always been so consistently supported
by the Noble Lord the Member for London.
He (Mr. Redington) could not forget old friends
for those who offered new favours. The Noble Lord and his
Colleagues had for many years supported conciliation to Ire-
land; and he (Mr. Redington) felt that his humble tribute
was justly due to the Noble Lord.
Mr. C. BRUCE moved the adjournment of the debate.

Colonel Sibthorp rose at the same time, and there were loud
cries for the lion. and Gallant Gentleman.

Mr. C. BRUCE said he did not wish his motion to stand in
the eay of the Hon. and Gallant Gentleman if he wished to
prolong the debate.
Colonel SIBTHORP—I rise, Sir, to move the adjournment
of the debate, as I do not intend to speak until the Hon. Mem-
ber for Cork (Mr. Murphy) is present.—( Laughter. )
The debate was then adjourned.
Sir R. PEEL said he hoped the notices of motion for to-
morrow (this day) would be disposed of in the same way as
those of 'fuesday, in order to allow the adjourned debate to
proceed.
Mr. T. DUN COM BE consented to postpone his motion re-
specting the Board of Trade until Monday.
Mr. WYSE also consented to postpone a motion which be
had on the paper.
The Auction Duties Bill and the Sugar (Excise Duties)
Bill, were severally read a third time and passed.
The Museums of Art Bill passed through Committee pro
form; •
The following Members were appointed as the Select Com-
mittee on Smoke Prevention :—Mr. Mackinnon, Mr. Beckett,
Viscount Newry, Mr. Brotherton, Mr. Hawes, the Earl of
Lincoln, Mr. Octavius Duncombe, Lord Francis Egerton, Mr.
William Henry Bodkin, Mr. Evart, Mr. Borthwick, Mr.
Hindley, Mr. Protheroe, Mr. Ricardo, and Mr. W. Williams.'
Colonel SIBTHORP renewed his motion for the printing
of the number of petitions against the Maynooth grant, with
the number of signatures attached to them,_ but there being
no seconder, the motion fell to the ground. The Hon. Member
gave notice that he would move it to-morrow.
The House then adjourned at Half-past Twelve o'Clock.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.
NEWMARKET. WEDNESDAY.

NEW MATCHES.
FlZlDAY.—Minotaur, Bst 101 b, agst Pine Apple, Bst Ilh.
First half of Ab.M. 100, h ft.—These horsesare also matched
for the next meeting, at the same weights, to run D.M.
The Ugly Buck is scratched for the Port.
WEDNESDAY'S RACES.
The weather has at length taken a favourable turn, and,
although still unseasonably cold, has enabled a select, busi-
ness-like assemblage to enjoy a moderate day's sport, without
the drawbacks that so completely neutralised the attractions
of the more important races decided on the first and second
days of the meeting. In order to enable several Honourable
Members, who have paid us flying visits, to get back to town
in time for the division on the Maynoot.h grant, the races
were arranged to commence at half-past one, and finish at
three. The first on the card was—

A—inatch for 200 sovs. h ft. T.Y.C. Duke of Bedford's
Minotaur, 5 yr, Bst 101 b (Robinson), beat Lord Exeter's
Celia, 6 yis, Bst 6lb (W. Boyce).
5t04 on Minotaur. Won by four lengths.
Subscription Plate of 50f. for 3 yrs old, 7st ; 4 yrs, Bst 71b;
5 yrs, 9st; 6 yrs, and aged, 9st 21b. T.Y C.
Mr. Ilowe's Khorassan, 5 yrs (Chapple) 1
Lord G. Bentincle - u -my- as All ro ud H t •
, 4 yrs .. 2
Mr. Steers' Caroline, 3 yrs 3
The following also ran ;—Lord Exeter's Celia, 6 yrs (W.
Boyce), and Lord Albemarle's Delapre, 4 yrs (Whitehouse).
Betting, 7 to 4 agst All-round-my. Hat, 3 to 1 agat Celia
(taken), 3 to 1 agst Delapre, and 7 to 2 agst Khorassan.
All-round-my-Hat and Khorassan laid in front all the way ;
the mare leading at a good pace half way up the cords, where
she was headed, and atter an iadifierent race was beaten by
a length, Caroline a moderate third.
Sir \V. \V. Wynn's Stoker, Sat 71b (Mann), beat Lord
Huntinglield's fby Muley Moloch, out of Barbelle, Bst 41b.
I).M. 100, h ft. 7t04 on the filly. Won easy by a length.
The Column Stakes of 50 sovs. each, h ft; for three yrs old
colts, Bst 71b; and fillies, Bst 41b. (27 Subs.)
Mr. Wreford's Winchelsea, by Camel (J. Howlett) 1
Colonel Peel's Hersey, by Glaucus
Lord Exeter's Adrianople

The following also started:—Lord Albemarle's Tisiphone,
Mr Batson's fby Plenipo out of Acacia, Lord Chesterfield's
Javelin (allowed sth), and Lord Miltown's Due au Durras.
2 to 1 on Winchelsea, 4 to 1 agst Javelin, and 8 to 1 agst
Due au Durras.—Won in a canter by six lengths.

BETTING ON WEDNESDAY EVENING.
CHESTER CUP.
S to 1 agst Semiseria (taken),4s to I agst The Era
t to 1 agst Cataract (taken) 115 to I agst Ould Ireland

DERBY.

5 to I agst John Day's Lot 25 to 1 agst Doleful and Tit-
(6 to I taken freely) mouse (taken)
8 to 1 agst Idas 35 to I agst Laird o' Cockpen
9 to 1 agst Alarm (taken)
16 to 1 agst Weatherbit 40 to 1 agst Doleful (taken).
40 to 1 agst Jinglepot (taken)
T 'RING MEETING.

NEWMARKET FIRST 5PR1.....-
TuESDAY.—Sir J. Hawley's Comrade, Bst7lb, agst Lord
Exeter's Dr. Hale, Bst 41b. First half of Ab. M. 100 It ft.
THURSDAY.—Lord Exeter's Wee Pet, Bst 61b, agst Sir J.
Hawley's Comrade, 7st 41b. D.M. 200 h ft.