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with 'his humble self, fbal such :measures were '
necessary for • the sate( y •of the Constitution.
VVltenfauy• Noble Lord, 'howexer, sptdie, who
differed from him in opinion-, lee always heard him
with attention, and never interrupted him. lie
thought the presAtt measure called for by the
Country, by Parliament, and byithat House in
particular. The sense of the lifter was so une-
quivocally expressed, as he hoped they would do
their duty in following up thatan-ppoit they had
so wisely afforded, and that the Tidle would meet
with the deserved sanction of Parliament. They
'had nothing in view but the safety of the Consti-
lotion, and the true interests of the country,
which 'he. wished might-flourish, and be handed
down 'to the latest posterity. All admitted the.
eitistence of tire evil, and the only difficulty
seemed to be, whether this Bill and its pro-
visions' were necessary to meet that evil. if,
at any lot;ite time within the period, the coun-
try may he in a situation that the Bill could
not safely he repealed, The longer continuo-time
was.,preferable, ss then they would not have ano-
ther battle to fight. His opinion act*, that if
such met:tames Were not in train, (so we under-
-sLoidhis,Gface), British blood would have heft
spilt, .iind,,turely it was better that such "Bilfs•
sholtld be
,rtoSed, than thtt stub au alternetive
shout take pleee,!. On this account it was; ii
really believed, that no dangerous meetings bad'
taken pfliee'at •Maoches;er, filasgoei, .or Paisley}..
These were- prevented by the effect of the mea-
sures brought forward, and their hopes of -over-
turnirielhe • 69yeronteut were damped by the
knowledge such `persons had of the measures in
preparation; and th& great bulk of ' the country
being against their, projects.- He admitted that
considerable distress exist ed, but he must say, those
whe were the most active in those-dangerous praco,
tires were not those 'who were most .affected by
the distress. He trusted, that all the attempts at
the destruction of the whole fabric of the Govern
ment and the Constitution would he completely
frustrated. Though no man could ..feel More for
the distressof those who really suffered than Wm.!,
self, yet he could never in such a crisis consent to
tie up tlie hands.of his Majesty's.Ninisters-, in
whose good intentions bad the highest confi4
dente.—(Hear !) •
The Earl of MORLEY
WAS of opinion that una
nimity was never more-necessary for-the *Mention
of the country than at present. ,'Falsification
the leading facts of interest, with respect to thd
state of the country, had been carried to a height
which it never had attained before. The bubble;
however, had now hurst out, end,that atneliorAJ
Lion which our present state so loudly celled, for;
would be effected by the measures which were in
their progress through Parliament. He contend-
ed that the indications, of the times-were fully
adequate to warrant the adoption of these mea;
sores of restriction.,- During tfi.e most, Nittien/
period of the French!Reeolution, large assemblies
of theyeOpleohairtalten place for the purposes of
political discussion ; i but in no instance had this;
been without the. attendance, and their being •re-
gnlarlyeonder•the control of constituted authori-"
ties. He sincerely, trotted that their':Lordshipt
would pass the present Bill, and thereby restore
tranquirrity to the country, which he did not doubt
was, the• eve of again enjoying that prospe-
rity and-happinessit Which, from its late-unparal,
Med success in Arrits, the ctvilization of:its peo.
ple, and the:eXcellencesot its laws, it was so jost
,4y,entitled to: .
The Earl of PONOUGHMORB Said, that although
heowas entirely averse to the principle .Oflthefltill;
yet as there seemed at present to be a question
for restricting its ditration to two years instead of
five, he certainly should prefer afflicting his coon=
try with it for the thorter_rather:than'the longer
perjod.,. One. of, his objections to it was, that it
went to plaCe, some of our great..., constitutional
rights entirely at the discretion of persons under.
the immediate inflnence of the Crown. Supposing
the seditious praptices alleged against. the people
of .Maiochester, and the people in different this.
triers in the Northern part; oldie kiugdont, were
fully esieblished, was be on that account to !offer;
all
_his majesty's subjects, from one end of the
countryto flee other, to be divested of their:welto
constitutional rights i—(Near, hear !)--The Not
ble Lord who had-:opened .the present motion;
_had taken-it for granted that 'every one was sotis-1,
fled with the--greatnest'Of the evil-, and with the;
stolipieitting it. lie, for, one, Was'
not.sOris.G(l,:with• either the.one or the other.=
(Hear., hear 1)--,i-Anothee reason, he had - for bb-
jettitietolihe,Passing of this BilrWes, that it was
made to apply equally-46; those Who in: their con--;
duct were complete strangers to its ensettnent.'--,
The conduct_ of IreWnd hid been io'sPoken of in
another Piage,. as to prove howlittle 'that country.
merited the operation;of the 'present measure
,boot
.he
:soppotedA he passing,ofs. 8i41,,0f Pains and;
Penalties !would pcecest,ed by, a.. panegy r ic-
his .unfortunate copntry.-,,.He contended that„it
:(1(1.; riot deserve any of its en,aetments.- fle•dis-1
syprpved,of the ,rneature on, other,grounds.„lle;
not, onAY
,disp,pproved..9l it on its: own,,gronnds,i
but on .account of its .being part, of a system to
the whole of which he
~was averse. The country!
had been,. frightened, and Parliament had been
frightened,, and thereupon it was that Ministers
had built their hopes-of cart yiog the present-ruea-
sures,„ His reason for ohjectiog, to it ,was, that it
•
was a system formed without any inquiry. Mi-
uisters haft hrooght forward testimony of their;
oty,n,-. They laid on tioetablee:videoce,sod brought
forward witnesses, whom ;they
,vrtmld-
be -cross-examined; or :eery, counter. eyidence!
adduced. Ministers,,under these., cireeou-,tances,;
could make such s,tuternents al they should think.
most, likely ‘: to .conduee to the passing of These
!) —fie, 40.31111
;another, objection to
these Bills, and that was to,theosanner.in which:
Ministers- had brought them before liarliament.—:
ylilirl.C('Te 6.117 P Nith of-pains "PPe-
naltie scilelYfor the purpose of pr.oteetiug,,theri
o.pett ,medit ,Al,44ey
,11.3(1 exerted, thetnettot, shot
were on their power, they,. would have_got..ark end
before it had attained
:its present
40:ghtA lostieed, . doiokthief, „however, ;bey •
v'ere contented iii.tflink the.existing Jaws
dent end, laying op their oars, to do nothing,[,
t'he vessel as..ejmost they, eajl,
meat together, and come forwar:l with their new
measures. As a striking instance of what he said,
he would mention a meeting which was allowed