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LONDON, FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 16, 1844.

Lord STOIIETON withdrew the motion of which
he had given notice in the House of Lords, with
reference to the construction of Catholic oaths.
The Puke of WELLINGTON announced that it was
the intention' of the Government to introduce a Bill
this session on Turnpike Trusts.

The Earl of FORTESCUE resumed the adjourned
debate on Ireland, and commenced by correcting
some mis-statements which had been made in the
Commons with regard to the appointment of seven
additional stipendiary magistrates. In adverting to
the iifimediate question before the House, he spoke
in lhigh terms of Mr. O'CONNELL for the stand which
he had made against Chartism in Leland; and con-
cluded by stating that he considered the Irish Church
one of the great grievances of the country. The
Noble Earl was. heard.very imperfectly.
The Eitl .of • Atm:NG-won defeadod the Govern-

ment against the charge of reducing the stipendary
magistrates. They had done nothing more than they
were compelled to do by Act of Parliament. He
had not much to say against the motion. He, how-
ever, denied the statement that justice was not fairly
administered, and at the same time defended Sir
ROBERT PEEL against the unjust imputation that he
had appointed the Noble Lord on the woolsack to his
high office because he was hostile to Ireland.
He was followed by the Earl of Rirox, at the con-
clusion of whose speech, after a pause of some mi-
nutes, the Marquis of NORMANBY rose to reply,
when a scene ensued, somewhat diversifying the usual
solemnity of their Lordships' proceedings, but for a
description of which we must refer to our report.
When the excitement calmed down the House divided.
The numbers were—Content, 78 ; Not Content, 175.
Their Lordships then adjourned.
In the Commons Mr. SOTIIERON took his seat for
North Wiltshire.

Lord CLEMENTS gave notice of a motion for Tues-
day next, with reference to the expense incurred by
the movement of troops to Ireland, and the registra-

tion of arms.

Mr. WALLACE gave notice that, on the 29th, he
would call the attention of the House to railway
communication throughout the United Kingdom.
Colonel RAWDON gave notice, for the same day, of
a motion relative to the proclamation against the
Clontarf meeting.

Sir JAMES GRAHAM postponed the Committee on
the Factories Bill till Friday fortnight.
In answer to a question from Mr. HumE, Sir
ROBERT PEEL said . the estimates would not be
brought forward till the conclusion of the debate on
the state of Ireland. Mr. HUME presumed they would,
therefore, be brought forward on Monday.
A number of motions were postponed.
Mr. D. Ross, the Member for Belfast, resumed the
adjourned debate on Ireland, and expressed his
hearty concurrence in the propositions brought for-
, ward by Lord J. RUSSELL; he expressed his astonish-
' ment that the rulers of this country, after Ireland
had been connected with this country for six cen-
turies, had not devised some plan to consolidate the
union and conciliate that nation. The will alone
was wanting. He then described the peaceable state
of Ireland under the two Whig Lords-Lieutenant,
and adverted to the charge made against Mr. O'Cox-
NELL of not being sincere in his endeavours to benefit
his native land. It was said that. Mr. O'CONNELL was
a hypocrite, that his words were smoother than oil,
but his thoughts breathed nothing but violence. Here
Mr. O'CONNELL entered, and was loudly cheered by
the Opposition as he walked up the floor of the
House, and the cheers were renewed with great effect
when he resumed his old seat near Mr. HUME.
After this exciting scene Mr. Ross proceeded to
draw the attention of the House to the peculiar
grievance of Ireland, and particularly pointed to
the Established Church. The religion of the majo-
rity, he said, should be scrupulously regarded, but
by no possibility could the present state of that
Church be reconciled to the feelings of the people or
to justice.
Mr. P. BOETWICK followed.
"'Sir H. W.BARRON declined making.any reply to Mr.
BORTHWICK'S remarks, and, after enumerating the
grievances of which Ireland had just reason to com-
plain, expressed his concurrence in the motion of Lord
JOHN RUSSELL.

A number of other speakers addressed the House,
hut the speech of Lord HowicK was the speech of
the night. It deserves the highest commendation.
His Lordship was not shackled by Whig or
aristocratical prejudices, he showed himself an
honest man, a man of no party, and forgot all
political distinctions in asserting the rights
and denouncing the oppressions of a country that
would willingly be allied with England, if England
would only act like an honest and generous nation.
After a short conversation on the subject, the debate
was again adjourned.

The ablest and most manly speech made last night
in the House of Commons was decidedly that of
Lord Howica, who inveighed in indignant terms
against the tardiness and manifest reluctance of Go-
vernment in bringing forward remedial measures for
the sister-country ; and asked, with pointed emphasis,
if this was a case in which they could safely wait till
a more convenient season to propose more enlarged
schemes of amelioration. " While peace lasted,"
observed the Noble Lord, " the utmost extent of
the evil might be the proiuction of a state of society
which must be intolerable to all who were forced to live
in it; and GOD knew this was bad enough ! But had
Government considered what would be the result,
should a foreign war break out ? What would be their
situation if they were again called on to carry on
a mortal struggle with a foreign enemy, with
nearly one-third of the whole population of the
empire ready, not to take part with them, but
against them, with all the deadly hatred which
sprung from .concealed disaffection ? Did they con-
sider how fearful a danger this was ? Peace, hap-
pily, prevailed; but who could say how long it would
last ? This state of things was a temptation to other
countries, knowing the sources of our weakness, to
ask for that which was inconsistent with our honour
and our interest." This is just the sort of argument
that would suggest itself, not to a mere red-tape-
tyer, but to a statesman of enlightened and compre-
hensive views, such as Lord Howien shows himself
to be, throughout his well-digested speech on Ireland.
That it will produce much impression on a
Government whose highest object seems to be to
legislate for the day, leaving the morrow to shift for
itself, we do not suppose for an instant; but it will
tell with the country ; it will sink deep into the
minds of all whose opinions are worth consideration ;
and induce them to regard the Irish question in a far
different light to that in which they may have
hitherto been in the habit of viewing it. So long as
Ireland continues in her present state of deplorable
disaffection—a disaffection prevented from breaking
out into open insurrection, not so much by the mili-
tary force stationed in that country, as by the inces-
sant, earnest appeals of O'CoNNELL—there can be
no sure guarantee for the safety of England, in the
event of a war breaking out with any of the Con-
tinental Powers. With the affections of Ireland
estranged from us, with what confidence could we
venture to oppose the troops of France, burning to
revenge the defeat of Waterloo? How meet
the myriad masses of trained soldiers whom,
by the mere stamping of his foot, the Emperor
of RUSSIA could summon into the field of
action ? How oppose the bold, stubborn forces
of the American Republic, whose recent mani-
festation of sympathy has so warmly endeared it to
the heart of Ireland ? These are contingencies not
very likely—we devoutly hope and believe—to
happen ; still they come within the limits of proba-
bility, and an enlightened Government—one, we
-mesa, that eteft -see iycy uu.i. -its --nose—should always
be provided against the chances of their occur-
rence. With the sister-country at our back, we
may bid defiance to the world; but while Ireland
continues to be our weakness instead of our strength
—our shame instead of our boast—we must be con-
tent from time to time to put up with sleights to
which, under other circumstances, we should not
dream of submitting. Lord Howica remarked
that Ministers had shown energy only in " re-
pressing external signs of disobedience," and had
manifested a deplorable want of vigour in bringing
forward remedial measures. This is perfectly true.
When once they had decided on the point, they could
be prompt enough in putting Mr. O'ComiELL on his
trial for conspiracy ; but their landlord-and-tenant
commission, which is meant to have a conciliatory
tendency, still " drags its slow length along ;"
and it appears to be a matter of considerable
doubt, whether, for this year at least, any re-
sult, in the slightest degree beneficial, will be
obtained from it. What substantial good can any
rational individual anticipate from a Government
which thus shows itself feeble in the right, and
forcible in the wrong; and legislates on the assump-
tion that Ireland has scarcely one solid comprehensive
grievance to complain of, and that consequently the
slightest possible modicum of relief will be quite suffi-
cient to answer every useful purpose ? In speaking of the
Irish Protestant Church, Lord ROWICK expressed him-
self with a manliness—a distinctness--a sincerity—de-
serving of all possible praise, and satisfactorily showed
that, until that gigantic grievance was con-
siderably mitigated, if not wholly done away
with, there could be no hope of perma.
Dent tranquillity
in Ireland, It might be

kepi in a state of sulky subordination by the pre-
sence of English troops, occupying it as though it

were an enemy's country ; but it would never be
cordially reconciled to us—never act as our right
arm in the hour of difficulty and danger.

Madrid papers of the Bth have been received, but
they add little to the intelligence published on Thurs-
day. Madrid, by order of the Captain-General
NARYAEZ, had been declared in a state of siege,—
that is under martial-law. The editors of three
Liberal journals have announced that they are com-
pelled to suspend their publication under such extra-
ordinary circumstances. " Absolute power," says
one of them (the .Taco del Comercio) being now esta-
blished, and the sword of a soldier suspended over our
heads, we are compelled to yield to force and discon-
tinue our labours. The whole is now placed in an
exceptional condition, under the rule of the sword.
The military authorities are invested with alp the
public powers. They dispose of the lives of citizens
whom they can send to the scaffold by merely ac-
cusing them of indirectly favouring revolt. Before
retiring from the contest, we protest against a mea-
sure so illegal and so tyrannical. Whilst there existed
a shadow of liberty we supported our principles at all
risks, like men of courage and conviction. But now
our sacrifices would be unavailable, for we should
soon fall into the snares which are laid for the organs
of public opinion."
The Especttabr made a nearly similar declaration,
and published its last number with several blank
columns.

The Three per Cents. were done at 281 for cash,
and 29 at 60 days, and the Five per Cents., at 201
and 193 at 60 days.

All the Paris papers of Wednesday publish a tele-
graphic dispatch from Calais, announcing the convic-
tion of Mr. O'CONNEL and the other traversers. They
make few comments on it, however, as the real nature
of the verdict given on Saturday was hardly intelli-
gible to Englishmen, and would, therefore, ill bear a
translation. The Courrier Francais, however, reck-
oned a conviction as certain, and remarks :—" Will
Sir R. PEEL thereby reduce the agitator to silence?
—does he imagine that the complaints of Ireland will
be extinguished by his imprisonment ? The English
Government has these questions to solve ; but British
philanthropy temporises with the ills of Ireland, and
to gain time has provoked a condemnation. This
miserable expedient of a potty policy will be a lasting
shame to the Tory Ministry and to the Judges !"
Queen CHRISTINA. was to leave Paris on Thursday
for Marseilles, and proceed to Spain from that place
by sea.
The French Funds were very firm on Wednesday.
The Three per Cents. closed at 82f. 50c.; the Five
per Cents., 125 f. 80c.; Orleans Railroad Shares, 852 f.
50c.; Rouen, 832 f. 50c. ; Havre, 672 f. 50c. ; Avig-
non, 757 f. 50c.
THE BOURSE—WEDNESDAY, FEB. 14.

First Highest Lowest

Price. Price. Price. Prico.
French Five per Cents. •• • . 125 70 • • 125 70 •• 125 60 125 65
Four per Cents. •• • • 106 50 .. 106 50 .. 106 50 • • 106 50
Three per Cents.•• • • 82 50 .. 82 50 .. 82 35 .. 82 45
Bank of France • 3275 • • 3275 • • 3275 ..3275
Laftitte Bank, I,ooof. Sharesllo.s ..1105 ..1105 • • 1105
5,000 f. Sharesso67 50 —5067 50 ..5067 50 ..5067 50
Belgian Bank .
Belgian Fives lO7l .. 1071 .. 1071 .• 1071
1840 •• • 109 k • . 109{ • . 1091 • • 1091
1842 •• •• 1101 1101 .. 1101 .. 1101
Spanish Active •
Passive 5l .. 51 .. 51 •• 5f
Portuguese Five per Cents.. 47 .. 47 .• 461 .• 461
Neapolitan lO6 .. 106 105 50 .. 105 50
Roman
RAILWAY SHARES.

Versailles,R.B. ..... 351 25 .. 351 25 .. 351 25 .. 351 25
L.B.— • • • • 172 50 .. 175 . • 172 50 .. 175
Rotten .............. •• 83.5 .. 835 .. 835 .. 835
Rouen to:llavre.• 670 .. 675 .. 670 .. 675
Orleans

Strasburg to Bate— • 247 N .. 247 50 • • 243 75 .. 247 60
Montpellier toCette. •
Avignon to Marseilles.. • • • • 765 .. 765 •• 760 • • 760
RAILWAY SHARES, FOR THE ACCOUNT.
Versailles, 11.11••• •• •• 350 .. 352 50 350 3.52 50
L. 8...... ..... 167 50 • • 175 .. 167 50 .. 175
Rouen .......... ......

Rouen to lialTe 675
Orteam • . •

.. 675 .. 670
•• 852 50 .. 850

672 50
.. 852 50

Strasburg to Bale.
248 75 •• 248 75 •• 248 75 .. 246 25
Avignon to Marseilles• • • • .• 760 • • 760 • • 757 50 • • 757 50

The Army Estimates, Ist April, 1844, to 31st
March, 1845 (laid upon the Table of the House of
Commons, and ordered to be printed on the Bth inst.),
consist, in the first.place, of the state of particulars re-
spectively attached to the Two Votes into which the
" Charge for her Majesty's land forces at home and
abroad' is condensed :—Vote 1, declares the number
of men to be takenfor the year ; Vote 2, the estimated
charge for the same. Vote 1, sets out, " the number
of officers, non-commissioned officers, and rank and
file which, it is proposed to maintain for the service
of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland,
(exclusive of the troops employed in the East Indies),
for the above period," at 100,295. Vote 2, esti-
mates the charge of her Majesty's land forces
for service at home and abroad for the
same term, at 4,475,8261. But, since the charge for
five regiments of cavalry, and twenty-three regiments
of infantry, which are employed in the East Indies;
and the charge, also, of the East India depots at
Maidstone and Chatham, are defrayed by the East
India Company, their amount (together 939,9061.)
are to be deducted from this aggregate, as well as a
further sum of 104,1561. on account of appropriations
in aid. The net amount, therefore, to be provided
under terms of vote 2, is 3,431,7641. The total net
amount to be granted for these services, and for the
several other services forming the subjects of the re-
maining votes comprised in these estimates, is (effec-
tive and non-effective) 5,984,5241. This total, for
last year, was 6,225,1031., showing a decrease in
the Army Estimates for the present year, as com-
pared with those for 1843-44, of 240,5791. The
charges for the current year, on account of the several
services under the class " Effective," are stated, re-
spectively, thus :—Staff Officers, 158,231/. ; Public
Departments, 90,308/. ; Royal Military College,
17,9181.; Royal Military Asylum and Hibernian
Schools, 13,4061.; Volunteer Corps, 86,0771.; Un-
provided Services of former years, 1,6491. The total
of these is 3,783,4371. (the item on account of Royal
Military College, &c., being defrayed by an appro-
priation in aid). Te amount to be provided for
" Non-Effective Service" is thus distributed :—Re-
wards for Military Services, 13,953/. ; Army Pay of
General Officers, 77,000/. ; Full Pay for Retired Offi-
cers, 62,300/.; Half-pay and Military Allowances,
450,0001.; Foreign Half-pay, 54,9321. ; Widows'
Pensions, 141,610/. ; Compassionate Allowances,
Bounty Warrants, and Pensions for Wounds,
110,000/. ; In-Pensioners of Chelsea and Kilmain-
ham, and Out-Pensioners of Chelsea Hospitals,
1,252,7921. ; Superannuation Allowances, 38,5001:
These Estimates are prepared with great minuteness
and in much detail ; and all the items are stated with
remarkable distinctness and precision.

ARRIVAL OP THE AVON WEST INDIA STEAMER.—
This vessel, which has been overdue for some days, ar-
rived at Southampton on Thursday morning. The de-
lay had been caused by severe weather in the Gulf of
Mexico, which lasted for two days. The voyage alto-
gether had been unfortunate, and the Avon, having
steamed for thirty-five days, consumed all the coals, and
the Captain was obliged to break away the bulk-heads,
and some other parts of the ship, for fuel. She left
MexicO on the 4th of January, where all was quiet. The
Avon left Bermuda for England on the 28th of
January, and on the following day another gale
came on, the wind blowing a hurricane ; it con-
tinued for forty-eight hours. Sir Charles Adam was at
Jamaica, on his way to Vera Cruz. The Trent brought
the inter-colonial mails for the Avon. The Forth had
left Havannah on the 12th of January, for Jamaica.
The Avon has 503,893 dollars on board, 57,500 of which
are for the Mexican dividends, and t 81,251 for the Real
del Monte Mining Company ; the rest on merchants'
account. Also, 59 serons of cochineal, and 54 cases of
gum copal. The various dates of departure are—from
Tampico, 23d Dec. ; Vera Cruz, 4th Jan. ; Havannah,
16th Jan. ; Nassau, 18th Jan. ; and Bermuda, 28th
Jan. The intelligence by this arrival is not of much
importance.
• COURT CIRCULAR.

WINDSOR, TIIIIRSDAY.—The Queen and Prince Albert
took their usual walking exercise this morning in the Home
Park. In the afternoon her Majesty and the Prince rode
out in a pony phaeton, his Royal Highness driving.
Sir Robert Peel arrived at the Castle this morning from
town, and had an audience of her Majesty. The Right
lion. Baronet afterwards took his departure in the after-
noon, and returned to town, travelling by the Great Western
railway.
The Royal Family have been taking airings as usual,
to-day.
Sir Henry Wheatley arrived this forenoon at the Castle.
Sir Henry took his departure in the afternoon.

Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Cambridge, attended
by Baroness Ahlefeldt, arrived in town yesterday morning,
from her residence, at Kew. Her Royal Highness paid a
visit to the Duchess of Gloucester, at Gloucester House, and
in the afternoon returned to Kew.

Sir Robert Peel left town yesterday morning, by the Groat
Western Railway, to attend her Majesty, at Windsor Castle.
The Right Hon. Baronet returned to his residence, in White-
hall-gardens, soon after four o'clock in the afternoon.
His Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge arrived in
town yesterday afternoon, from Kew. The Royal Duke
visited her Royal Highness the Duchess of Gloucester, at
Gloucester House.
Her Most Faithful Majesty. the Queen of Portugal has
been graciously pleased to raise Baron de Moncorvo, her
Majesty's Envoy at this Court, to the dignity of a Knight
Grand Cross of the Ancient Military Order of St. James of
the Sword.
Sir W. C. Ross, R.A., has left London, by command of her
Majesty, for the Court of Brussels, to paint a large miniature
of her Majesty the Queen of the Belgians, and the Princess
Charlotte of Belgiu.m.

SACRED HARMONIC SOCIETY.—The last perform-
ance of Handel's Oratorio, Jephtho, takes place at Exeter
Hat this (Friday) eyening.