The Sun.
London, England, 1819-06-26 00:00:00

IRISH ESTIMATES.

Mr. C. GRANT rose to move the Irish Estimates,
which he said were the usual subjects of Parlia-
mentary grants. Alluding to the votes which
had hitherto been passed for charities in the Iri,b
Metropolis, he admitted that they were not in the
main beneficial. They were, however, very an-
cient institutions, and that which now remained
to be done was to take care that the funds were
properly administered. One description of chA-
titles which made part of these votes were the
Protestant Chtirter Schools. lASI year 38,0001.
had been voted for these schools, but this year the
sum to he voted was only 24,0001. This redne--
Hon had been effected by some alterations in the
management, and also-in consequence of the
stitution having been able to make available h
sum of 40001. from the Irish Bank. The manage-
ment of these schools had of late been much im-
proved, which was due in a great degree to the
efforts of the Clergy. An application, had been
made front this Institution for the establishment
of two schools, for preparing persons to-act as
school-masters and school-mistresses. This, he
thought, would be found very beneficial. On the
whole, the Institution itself was of the very best
kind, and its object being that of educating_ the
children of the poor in the principles of the Esta-
blished Church, was must deserving the encou-
ragement of Parliamept. He concluded, by mov-
ing that 24,0001.- be granted for the support of
the Irish Protestant Charteted Schools.

Sir H. PAnt,ret..t. observed, on the great amount
Odle. sums voted for the Irish Charitable institu-
tions of various kinds. No less than 200,0001.
litid been voted for them'within the last year. He

hoped sonic reduction would be made by a more
economical system of management.
Sir G. HILL insisted on the great benefit de-
rived from the Irish Protestant Charter Schools.

Mr. HuME objected entirely to theprinciple on
which iheSe schools were founded. He thought
the new mock of education which had been found
so beneficial in England and Scotland should be
extended to these schools.

Sir G. I-Ittt, explained.
Colonel BARRY supported the system pursued in
there schools.

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Mr. ARP,RCROMBY insisted on the propriety of
introducing the improvements in educatio❑ to
these schools.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER defended
the system of the Chartered Schools.
Lord JoccLYN sail, the schools in question had
been productive of the most extcn,ive benefit.
Mr. C. GRANT begged to be understood as not
in any degree pledging himself as to what he might
propose next year with respect to the schools.
The,usual sums were voted for the services of
the Charitable Institutions of Ireland. On these
several motions, questions were put and answers
given ; but, as they produced no debate, we think
it unnecessary to cuter into a dealt of a desultory.
conversation. The Speakers were-7—
Mr. C. Grant, Mr. Gordon, Mr. Hume, Sir
George Hill, Mr. C. Wynne, Sir H. Parnell, Mr.
Nlsxw.ll Kirrv, Lord Carliampton, the Chancel-
fai the Exchequer, Mr. Bankes, and Mr. Hut-
Oinson. _ .

On the Vote fora Grant of 9000/. to defray
the exp..-nce of publishing Proclamations, &c. iu
the I Newspapers, some opposition wa-s ex-
cited It was objected to, •as An improper appli-
cation of the Public Money, for the purpose of
influencing the Press.

Mr. 13ANKE5 supported the vote, as proper and
judicious. If Proclamations and Government
Communications were deemed necessary, those
who became the channels of such information
oekor to be remunerated for their expense and
trouLle. It was a legitimated tootle of acting,
and When the PresS became instremental for such
laudable purposes, it ought to receive proper en-
couragement. The sum in the aggregate might
appear considerable ; but he had no doubt that
those in the direction of public affairs would see
it applied according to the intentions of the grant.
Mr. Hume protested with great vehemence
against such an. expenditure far the cause of in-
fluencing the Irish Press. A Government must
he in an extreme case, indeed, when it was thought
necessary to descend to such wretched expedients.
lie protested against undue influence in London
as well as in Duhlin ; and the Hon. MeMber was
pleased to make some bold insinuations, as if he
could prove that such unwarrantable influence had
b,.en used with the London Press.. Tl).e ericonrage-.
meat of such a Press ought, to be' totally dis-
countenanced. Look at its effect not only on the
first characters of the country, but on the pro-
ceedings even of that very House. He therefore
was an enemy to every vote which had such a
tendency as that noel before them. If, however,
money were necessary to defray the expellee of
publishing the Proclamations, etc. why should
Government act with partiality.? Why give a pre-
ference to one Newspaper more than to another ?
Mr. Beetees felt no difficulty In vindicating;
Government egainet the unprovoked aspersions of
the lion. Member. Government had a right to
show a preference to particular Newspapers. The
selection was founded in policy and in common
sense• It was more natural that they should encou-
rage their friends than their foes. If Gover'nment
acted otherwise, he.would maintain that they were
the maddest men that ever directed the affairs of
the uatiou. He differed in opinion from the Hon.
Member regarding the ch'aracier of the Public
Press. He (Mr. Bankes), by no means thought
it so corrupt as the Hon. Gentleman had insinu-
ated. What reasons he (Mr. Hume) might have
for using such language as descriptive of the Public
Press, he (Mr. Bankes) could not tell ; but he was
convinced that- its conduct in general presented
very different teateres.
Mr. Hume rose up in warmth to maintain his
sentiments. He insisted that Government ought
to have no connexion whatever with any News-
paper but the London Gazette, which was their
own official and authoritative Paper, and in
which they might publish as much as they pleased.
Mr.. HUTCHINSON objected to the vote Of
90001. for the purpose mentioned, and he hoped
that the Hon. Secretary for Ireland (Mr. Grant)
would not let them have the repetition of it next
year. The Hon. Member denied that the Paper
in which the Proclamations appeared was ab-
jectly subservient to Government. The publish-
ing of the Proclamations in a Newspaper was no
proof of its loyalty or disloyalty. Although he
totally differed from the lion. Gentleman (Mr.
• Hume) as to the true character of the London
Press, yet he could not agree with the other Hon.
Gentleman (Mr. Bankes) as to the doctrine of
legitimacy when applied to the Newspaper Press.
It was the first time he ever heard of such a doe-
.trine. He denied that the Irish Press was cor-
•rupt or unfair ; and he thought that the insinua-
tions advanced against the British Press were
not founded on sentiments of candour or libera-
lity.
Mr. F. PALMER defended both the Irish and
English Press from all unwarrantable aspersions.
Whatever some Gentlemen might insinuate, he
was convinced that the Public Press of both coun-
tries, instead of being hostile to the Government
as constitutionally formed; were •friendly and-zea.
lonsly alive to the true interests of the State. In
political opinions there mighebe considerable dif-
ferences, but all those differences ceased when the
Government or Constitution was endangered.
The vote was then passed.
Ou the vote for a Grant of 22,000!. for tile
Services of the Barrack Department,
Mr. NaWMAN thought it unfair that such
enormous suns should be voted at so late an
hour, and in so unexpected a manner. Why not
give notice of the several Resolutions previously,
that Members might be prepared to diacuss'theii
merits ? It was taking the House by surprise, and
at. an unseasonable period. -Alter they bad al-
ready voted three millions of taxes, they were
suddenly and unexpectedly called upon to vote

enormous sums for the public expenditore of
Ireland.
Mr. BANKEs agreed with the last Hon. gevsrs.
ber. The Resolutions ought to have been UP: lig
before they weve presented for the sanction 01,14
House. This would be acting fairly, and 811.1-,
Gentlemen time to prepare themselves for the
mission. He did not wish at this hour CO rof
vokea debate ; but he thought that the nature
the Resolutions ought to. have- been previouVe
announced to the House. Farther inquiry nliigee
be deemed necessary ; but how could it take roe
when they were effectually precruded from it•
eit
hoped that next year the House would have
cause for such complain' . obi •
Mr. W. SMITU could not conceive what poi in,
objections there cdruld be for printing the Regoutti
Why not print them before they 054
their Report ? There was no reason for Wakthe
the Report that night, and (looking et
clock) unless they made it in one minute, ("14
could not make it that night. He believed that
would not perform his duty if he did not
for the printing of it, At ail events, it ought 4
be printed before -Monday. It would be a r
prece
Mr. Bdent for Ministers. %At
ANKes observed, that the RCport trAlry,
be reccived that night, printed before MOI)"*'
and farther considered also on Monday. ibst-
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER Said'
the printing would ocz,rsion a delay. It
however, be previously reported ; and as thse'
re,
inflates formed from these Resolutions were 11°,4
ly different in construction ..r some t'
might order the Estimates to be primed, i'rtc
of the Resolutions.

Mr. WYNNE was for the printing. ole
The Resolutions were all agreed to, the I.': el
resumed, and the Report ordered .to be reset`
on Monday. its
The Estimates were ordered to be printeLlif
order that the Members might be furnished lop
Copies previously to the further conbideration
Monday.
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['he Tax Bills, in conlequence of the
Resolutions of the Committee, were scpd"liat
brought in and read a first time, and ordered
a n
oh
sT ecd reading on Monday.
e Churches' Building Arnfmdment Bill ‘c.,J
through a Committee. The Report was reset v 0
and ordered to be taly,:r: i::to further consideroti
on Tuesday r:!•;!, :
WO`
The. Common Recovery Bill was commit'
third reading on Monday. hg leg
Mr. HOLFORD brought in. a Bill for the
regulation of the General Pwiteutiary at Milb°llo4
—Read a first time, and Oidcred tor a sec" . '
reading on Monday. bets
Mr. ARBUTRNOT brought in,a Bill for The d
ter regulation of the African Company.--itei' tos
first time, and ordered ter a second reading
Tuesday next. veirs
Mr. 1.1 rtfciVia fOF iiieitirn of the apP„.'ng
tion the gr wt of public money to the
Clergy in Scotland, for the last three years.'
tierce.
Tbeother Orders oldie Day were ti:en disinto
of, and the House adjourned at LIALF-PAi'r
o'CLoex.. •

St,
HYDROPHOBIA.-On Wednesday' se'rmig“•%iii:
respectable Mreting, held at the Cutier'oo4
Sheffield, convened by requisition to the Gls i~
Cutler, at which he presided,. it was onsoit
rnously resolved' immediately to adopt the njpg•
effectual means of destroying all dogs fouPtiel;
large anti not properly muzzled after due o°,
had been given, by employing armed m3O (°l,Oll •
ambulate the streets and lanes of the town d"
night while existing circumstances rendered it
cessary, as so many confirmed cases of bVii).
phobia had lately occurred, to the terror old,
inhabitants of the town and its neighbourbo°

FATAL EFFECTS OF SMALL I'ox INocuLATO"'ist
Two tine children died of the small po'"o
North Bradley, last week. It appears 08100'
family bad but recently removed to a m0i,54
which had been just quitted by persons that olio
been inoculated by a Weaver in that parish L„(1'
bail been permitted with impunity to
gate this loathsome disease), when the five
dren immediately took the infection ; ocia,:re
above, tell sacrifices to the *Malady, and "1"ott,
maiaing three are still in a very doubtful sit

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BIRTH.
On the 23d inst., at her mother's house, Niar—sao.
Bognor, the Lady of William Graut, Esq., It. N.

MARRIED. , 11 Ssn
On Thursday last, at Chelsea Church, Philip Danie, ' tb,ll.ar
of Restronguet Wear Cottage, Cornwall, to Fraric".fteP-
daughter and co-heir,--ss of the late Rev. F. C. Negus' .
of Bronze and Suffolk. Oakley,
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On the 24th inst., at Cheltenham,DlED Lieut.-Genera co .
Reynolds, of the Hon. East India Company's Servic' ,
',l3x,
Bernbay Establishment. mail, • 14
On the 22d inst., at her house in Park-street, ,-;- this
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roness Mordaunt, of Turvey, aged 82 ; by her tioat'' •
Peerage descends to his Grace the Duke of Gordon.
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