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tore on the aubjecti, the appointment of Stied. Committees would
obviate the evil. He was persuaded that it would not be possible
,to have a Select Committee case ; the veriotes; deniandslipou the
.time of professional, _mercantile, and other .111enshers, it'sould, in
his opinion, present insuperable obstacles to such an arraugeinent.
The Hon, Menaber'.baa hnoWn many instances in Which ,the ma-
jority in Conirnittees.on Private Nils had voted in utter ignorance
ml' thp,real merits of the question; and that nothing could he
more inwortent than, if potiible, to secure the means of obtain-
ing a just end impartial decision on the Private Bina introduced
into the House.—(The lion. Member concluded by moving the
Resolutions given to our Paper of yesterday.)
Mr. YATES PEEL seconded the Motion.

Colonel DAVIES agreed with the.two Honourable
Members that nothing.ceuld be more inconvenient than the pre-
sent
tootle Of conducting-Private Bins. 'lle conduct of Members
in 'Private CoMmittee Rooms had been.in many instances exceed-
iegly disgraceful. At the same time he must give the proposed
IResolutiona his most etrenuous opposition., If a great evil existed
it was better to leave it uncorrected 'than to supply its place by an-
other evil of greeter maguitude.' Nething could, in his opinion,
be more inconvenient and more cumbermoeue than the machinery of
dente Resolutions. Firitt, with reaped to, the lista of s hundred
and•twenty Members, sixty of whom were to sit on these private
Cmanoittees, and sixty not ; how were they to know which sixty
were. to sit, and-which to be omitted ? As to thedifficulty of
making Select Committees, he would wish to know how the-Cote
mirrors contemplated by the Honourable GentleMito would he sup-
plied. By the sixth Resolution, any person eumplaining of the
decision of the Private Committee had a right to appeal -to the
/louse ; anti no discretion whateveentas left to the lionso on the
subject. It was true that the complainant; was to deposit five
hundred prititell with the Clerk ,of the Fees, for the payment of
any costs which might be awarth4 agtiinst turn ; hut hew did
that proposition accord with the declaration the other day, that the
House had no right to bind any one it, a penalty? lle doubted
whether, if Coate were awarded, the House bad the power of
forcing them. • .
Mr. MABERLY strongly reprobated the existing
system; but maintained that the apeointanent of 'Select Coln..
mittees would be prefcrable to the proposed measures.
Lord AI THORP 64d no doubt that some remedy
was necessary, and was of opinion that the proposed ineaaute
would be much better than the appointment of Select ,Conimit-
teee. lie was decidedly of opinion that the 'Resolutions 'Wild he
tried.
Mr. Alderman WAITII M. AN observed, tb-..ftt (
had been universally aektloWieSilled). the present v..-notle of consti-
totieg Private Committees Was a great evil i s.ud thett-ore that
he felt obliged to the Honnursble (~00,,,An fin. proposing a
iemedy, although he (Mr. Aldennen w
aithmen) thought that it
was one byno means adeoeAte to the: purpose irtired. In the
first place, to agree to tlie Resolutions, wee by implication to pass
a severe censure on themselves, as having been guilty of gross,
scandalous, etn,l, partial conduet. That such had been the .case,
however, r.eith the lust
,Parliament, he by no means doubtod,
Lie linen/ very tvell, that if he alluded to the present Parliament,
he ;oust be very, limited in his ternerkt. But, he might speak'
lats opinion loudly of the dead, although it was not permitted
to him to do so of the living. He especially entitled to one
very serious grievance' under which he had himself buffered. A
Petition was presented by the city of Londen against a Bill which
they, declared would be highly injurious to them. In the
first instance an objection was made to hear Counsel on the
part of the City, because it was stated' that tint Bill in question
affected traders in genera), and that the City of London had no
particular interest in it. At length it was Odd by the Commit-
tee, that as a matter of grace and favour they would hear wit-
nesses against the • Bill, He (Mr. Alderman Waithman) not
much liking that, demanded it as a right. The Committee had
at length consented to grant him se a favour what he had de-
manded as a right, and what they had denied' to others. He had,
however, protesttel against the proceeding, and had 'determined
not to exercise the right at all -if .he could, not exercise it entirely
and completely, and he
,aceordingly withdrew. If that, Commit-
tee. had been composed greatly of Shareholders and Directors of a
Compaq, what would he raid of injustice and partiality ?
Veal it not have been said, that the Members who composed it
were totally undeserving dl their seats iii
,that House? Let the
Home grant him a Committee, and go into the conduetpi all tho
recent Joint Steck COMpanies, And be pledged himself by all that
was dear to man, to prOve all the facts before them—that there
;
were. individuals tut Camniitties bad been Shareholder's of
I thdwhn had sold their shares, or speculated in them.
the 6rl of RUSTON spoke le; order; '
M w
AT"I'!DIAN contipued—He was alwqs
tel to 1
*e. out of '3vtivt` ; hut really he felt that it was very im-
portant that these things 1
to eyin„i,,_
ies multi be known. Ile had hoped, that
the eA,„*..l. a lads before the public, he should have met with
',""rronott of the Hotifiei They were ,now. proposing a remedy -'
PP AU enormous tel. lie would give his support to any
"4"re Irat was likely
whicki • he effectual in checking the cell to
t Wits applieth •
P rEL Saul, that t;ttonft into consideration all
the .renetitiniis of tire QI• 1 lipidl vert.ainlY vote for the
P
11 as experimental ni mire confessed that he
give id not fill entetettt thin that the late
Htsned of hi pt vat'ollu%tCldii ririv";be ,abject so ha-
lit°PerlY 404 M.enther '(Mr.t N'Vai‘th7nasn) had ass'
Committees hart ee
of those who had ;in'lluolY been appointed, in which the opinions
attended to all the duties of the committees
had been over-ndetli
__aro
itifte by those. who bad not attended td their duties
4'n"itt"me: spirit prober that a remedy should betritated against
the last Parliammt, and tioqtlentle attended to those eubjtatta in
eemption *hick
theill the late Howie bad • been the mass of
omit lave heard of Member for London had deecribed,
private property, but etasocnntli'instunees of &eat injustice done' to
led
r ;(!vt‘rvViii ttiah
‘t to
l, s the:4l,ti tte'litc2l'll tit;
:h
thefh a'
t had corns
lit'ecsh aka
rulToewni:t
waitr►
rider
sider, that the nft('aelyhein.l7‘) 61%04, tl,lO lion. Member to con-.
were not dead, and it Wall nt that Parliament
tizet;trtoitoiini
et?, ecotuettl
otnam principle °stlieledctbienga'ltilviee Attoemits- ,
the ,c-'0)11,11
ewhich the b naineila arose, and from
I:l.l.t.mpottitLef„ it made the number of names depends
12.L_ ori, nature of the, buainees for Which they
the
lat
tivebite, yore locality of the county. He
olohnto private bills would .il.
ertaiti, the number of Members to
out of the .different ur tera"(l, According as' they arose
county of [li Maio '01.1"ls bill arising nut of the
invoiving nnniern4intirl county of great. importance, and
a. Private Bill from Viarwidt tveoyild toe reittred to to BO Members;
from Leicester, sixty-nine; from fitatfoertlef""d e°"-leven
• county, combining great agrieelturSi'and ihirdilettet,ntl,eolsetgini,l,pio„rretan„s:t,
only sixty-six. -There had been a. cage inin,at
last Parliament, in which a proposition rel:titeiel"t 8"4"i
of
tathfe
fordshire had been referred, in the ritual coursea. a canal
in
8
of that County, and to the Counties adjoining Otlit it halitemmb -
that everyone of these Members was a Urea:lCW tly'
evened with the Canal. In Devonshire,
,t,14m4 tburb!rerbtlrilllletneh°et:
would he 168 ; Wiltshire, 191; Hama, . There would he
ti,iteitpiiinlesitit,sztsin,a:ydvAt!errihers to decide" private bill arising out of
atalano Which might arise Mit of Stafford-
a sufficient reason for adopting some
a7.1_157,
,t.T.,tevettl_digiVe- AL greater equality of votes, aid ensure
liXr:eing.n.se
Trialettiray Iron suet occasions. lie would, there-
r freer
uu.ru%.,,,i;i: lesolutione without- difficulty. He be-
lievedhoine tha hot a
44,(klit thus abuses complained of, would. be
that the evil watt
Mr. smcru
so great,
that it, required. an
awl ettectual remedy.
A MEMI3 E , lOse Win
observed, that the iniluence 4 I,A; nut kir",
hi done ,away with by. the ranted titled of v I I
itth,
should hionself submit two V„
Pr"l"l'ud ; but he
.001 after the fog three Ilesoltitiiars "" "b
fitittordihirC should be adopted. th" ""' lem t for
Sir lip. BIIRDETT said a few "ra,,
•
tone totally Mawiible in die Liellety. ffit ill a
Mr. BAN KES ;thought
tm
stations of life ought not to he, required to give tut hood '
city for the .5001,:i.. 'sews m :odeaught to be adaYPtoi,-,7est,'stail;
cases of relieving ii,ersoes from this coeditioo.
A MEM B whose ~.Immune we -could not leant,
sail, that it might safely be left to the boleti-try of State fti,:
Home Department, to provide an adequate remedy fin.' for
„
complained cif.
Mr, C. W. W. WYN NTH said, litht the naillic,ol.
the clite4-tionl brought before Electiott Connuitues dud -he
brought lieftne Comsoittes on Private' '‘‘,44 totally .in must,
The casett,brungitt Wore Election Continitteo4.lm.„l,„,(l„treitrtan
of law atoi.tt'Ve*tion of feet: Tim Caste
only a queatioti of espedienc&whether the advh:,,„,,.„,-'41%,.''"14"*
mutt from a certain proposed measure were
below tit glinetat which
,t arms. trittitr;
of private properlY. Ile tficl; not ueny glair Vat, •
0* tow tMI of (Nadia 'v " 4.;" ariSe trent
c_
,0 me ri a I 4; out tee advatite
*,1`,1%,' ilis'whielt had been lost exm,ttled .
Jei toe orpreper
t,,not that; had mud. He objected to the nomination hallut,
411 to exclude a local
" "16114*- 1 knowledge from. the Com-