The Sun.
London, England, 1819-06-15 00:00:00

WREXHAM INCLOSURE.

Mr. CM:WEN moved the recommitment of the Wlexham
Inclosure Bill.

After a short discussion, in which Mr. Wynn, Mr. Alder-
man Waithman, Colonel Wood, and Mr. Wr.ttesley panics-
pated, the motion wa4 negatived without a division.
Mr. HUTCHINSON presented several petitions from the
Registrar and other Officers of the High Court of Chancery
in Ireland, praying for remuneration in the event of the Bill
for regulating the Fees of that Court being passed into a lam
Ordered to lie on the table.

Mr. GOOCH presented a .petition from the Farmers and
Dealers attending Ipswich Corn Marlict,-ptaying that no ad-
ditio►nal duty might be laid on Malt.—Ordered to tie on ilia
table.

, Lord mfurox presented a petition from the Prote‘tant
Dissenters of Dewsburr, praying for an Alteration of tit*
Marriage Act.—Ordered to be on the table.

DUTY ON WOOL.

Lord MILTON held two petitiom;;;;;efrom Walftfield, and
the other from Dewsbury, against the additional ditty upon
%Void. Objections had been started against the receipt of
such petitions ; but he conceived that there were precedents
to prove their admissibility, even after a Tax Bill had pro-
ceeded farther than the present. He found on the Journals
of the House, that in the year 1739. when the famous ques-
tion of the Excise had come before Parliament, a petition
from the City of London had been presented on the ?nth of
April by thy Sir, rift, although the Bill imposing the new du-
ties had been read for the first time in the House. Tice pe-
titioners prayed to he heard by Counsel at the Bar on the-
second reading of the Bill. A motion was made that the
petition should lie on the table. Oa this a debate arose,
and the result was, that the petition was ordered to
lie on the table. but that the petitioners should not be
beard by counsel on the secoad reading, the latter part hay.
ing been put to the vote, aad lost by n majority of 214 to 197-
It was impossible to find a case mote in point than the pre-
sent. The Bill was in the House, and the limit for receiv-
ing petitions seemed to hare been extended and fixed to the
second reading of such nieas,rre. He quoted several pre-
cedents to show that the petitions might at least be r:-ad to
the House, even if they wra•e not received. He then pre-
sented time first Petition,_which was from the traders amid ma-
nufacturers of V.-Airfield, against the dot, upon Foreign
Wool, and stated that merchants who ex,ected large quan-
tities of coarse wool from Russia, had, in consequence of the

it
proposea duty, written to their trttretrondetits lo hare
lauded at Antwerp insteita of this country.
Mr. IIESKISSf )N contended that the case mentioned by4he
Noble Lord did not apply to the present question, as the IRill
-against which the Petition had been received was one tending
to introduce new regulations into the Excise, and not to raise
any additional revenue. He thought that unless the House
felt &goosed to open x new and a very inconientent course
the oresent Petition cunld not he received. .
Mr LONI. WELLESLEY made a few. observations, totally
inattrPhle in the Gallery.
Mr. P. MOrntE maintained that the Country had had Mt).
opportunity to consider the merits of the tax now proposed.
The, House itself was -scarcely acquainted with the subj. ct.
If Petitions against taxes were not to he receimd. then...lt(
taxes he proposed at an early part of the Session, when there
would be abundant time. for their consideration.
Mr. YiltOlifillAM contended that the Petition mentioned
by his Noble Friend, was almost the:§Anie as the present. It
bad been received in consequeneeaif .a'striet examination of
'the 3ournals•of the 'House, which . had afforded,nunievons
precedents fur the course which had been adopted.
Lord CASTLERF.AGH wished the House to abide by the
general rule which had hitherto been observed. •• If Petitions
were brought op, read, and then. rejected, that..mode would
vertainly be both unfair and inconvenient, because it would
then appear that it was their prayer which teas objected to.
When it was known, on the contrary, -that-Petitions could
not hr PeceOved ag:.enst a Tax Dill -when ;nice brought in,
their rejection could nut be productive of disappointment to
the country. He did not Mean, however, to say; that Ho-
nourable Members might nut Mahe motions and starts the
substance of Petitions to the. House, although they could pot
be received.
Mr; S.I'PART WORTLEY read a note from. Mr. Hatsall's
book, which stated that tits. Petition to'which, the Hon. and
I.iartied (b (Mr. Brion:ham) had alluded, had only
been received liecapse it had i. en presented by the Sheriff, of
th-•dity of London, and lb,: by a Member, trod out of respect
to that City:
After a7few..vv9rol.from Mr. BitournzAw, the motion was
negatived without.a division, .
• • BREAO-1 OF PRIVILEGE

Mr. CANNING rose, before the House should
proceed with tire business of the evening, to 'per;
form a letinfel duty, etel intriele.oo its considera-
tion a cese deeply affecting its privileges. No
men could be more sensible than he Was of the
propriety of providing, whether by authoriziug,
it convenient, or by coneivance, that all that
pessed iii !bat House should be communicated to
the cOnniry at •lerge. And if be
.was of opinion
that the footing on which . that conimenication
nose stood was the most proper, it was because
being an indulgence liable to abuse, it was de-
sireble•the House should keep in i,s own bands
the means of repressing that abuse. During the
t wenty-five years that he had belonged to Perlin-
Ment, he had had but one occasion of uttering a
complaint. That was during the last Session, and
against the same Paper of twhich he now. haul
agAio to-complain. That Paper bad then published
Mew gross mist epresentatine of a transaction in
which he and Mr. Speaker were concerned. Yet
when Ire- had called the. ettentioa di the House to
the subject, lie had only stated the Case, end-con-
!letting with the hope that the misrepresentation
had been eccidental, le.ol declined putting. the.
Rouse, in possession of -.the cause. of his corn-
pteiat, and only' wished it to operate as a warn-
ing.. Asa warning, ..he was sorry to-say, it had
nut op'erated. In the present ease, it wonlci be,
inipossible for a candid mind, tuaking,*every prim-
ticablenlleaWence, to attiibute the raiseepresenta--
tion to 'mistake or accident. It was so gross
and so malignant in its nature, as, to. leave no
doubt of its, being. svordiy the
.notice of the
HPuse; It happened diet hie had, been absent for
two or three hours during the early part of the
debate of faStToesilsy, when the Hon. MeMber
for -Aberdeen (Mr, Moue), had made some-obser-
vation's., which his absence had prevented him bon;
hearing. He-had come back,tothe House before
the Hon. Member had sat down, but from the
fe.nor of-die letter part a-sf his -speech, could hard-
ly suppose that any thing calculated tojeifieme the
p issjons had passed. What ices his stirprise,
th,:.refore, to find in The Times Newspaper of the
next morniugethe- tollowihg. passage asea. correct
report of .what the Hots. Member had said
Bands, trapped in scarlet and.gold, were daily
paraded about the streets, as if to mark the squa-
lid poverty of the lower orders.—(Laeglttere (roan
the Millis: rial Benches )—Ministris might laugh;
hut let them look at -the other sidteot tlw
pic-
ture ; let them survey the misery of the poor,
laborious, indoetrions wretches at Cadisleeter
even of the unhappy beiugs_ they meet in our
streets, and lie believed that there would be found
but one men among them who would still keep a
suri;.• upon his countenance, 91141 1.11111 would be
4 sonde of seit-congratuletion from a 'Right Han.
Cen-le min eMr.llatinin!2)—"my name inserted by
the I,,,titor, for t ste the illusion shotki be loie-
-4-4 then by habituellyaurning into ridicule the suf-
ferings of his tellow-creatures, be had bt en able
to place hiluselt so tar above 'their .unhappy cone..
ditioi..—(Continued cheers.)m—Was there any
tnan in the House, who would lay his hand
upon his heatt and say, on the honour of a
Genslemen, that such words, it not spoken by
the• Honourable Member, could have been ac-
cideetaily inserted There was hut one impression
aeon his Mind, and but one course to pursue,—
Thee was. to apply to the Honourable Gentleman
Opposite, it'd inquire whether or: not he had ems
played. the expreviens ascribed .to hint. This he
had done, and as soon as other avocations allowed
it; he bad ri-ceived from- that Honourable Gentle-
..
inan sucli'an enswer as completely satisfied him
) that be (Mr: H.) could 'not hove used
thoseeepressions ; though, not having seen the
Nee,spaper, he could 'not speak as p esitively as
he expected to be able
,to do after reading the Ile-
rm He (Mr. G.) hail sent the Paper to that
Hon. Gentleman, and a Noble Friend of his had
brought from him a most clear, honourable, and
satisfactory disclaimer. In consequence of this,
he had given notice to that Hon. Member, last
Seturday, that being satisfied the fault rested with
the Newspaper, he should-bring this abuse of the
privileges and indulgence of the House before its
consideration on Monday, when he must request
his presence. The House, lie trusted, would see
that he was not influenced by any Motive of per-
soriel interest or irritation, Ile might indeed
,bave lett hurt had due attack proceeded from a re-
spectable quarter ;
.but resting on such aatthority
es it now did, it was far below his profoundest
contempt. He had, however, a duty to perform
-to tncsny Members 1t the House,,w'ho.stere not so.
hardened as himself -against such attacks, and who
would rather hear them in silence thanexpose theni-
selves to a repetition of them by noticing thenr:•:le
was in :heir Herself prat 11c came forward. Libels.
like the preslit were the more despicable; because
the wretch who wriate:them. did not stand:forth
openly, hot placed •wrespecfable IVl'...mbeer;:of. 4ho.
/louse belore'bim as a cover.—(Hear, hear !)---

rt. (las le site poker a any man Who heata
the debates, and' marked the absence of 'certain
Menthe's, to pet in the month of where the
foulest libels on the absent. What course was
open for him to pot site in swell of a remedy ?
The law woteld Have been good,tor nothing. If
hef had carried his eiemplaint 4o the Court of
King's Bench he might have convicted the Editor
-of The Times-of -aefibel Y lintewithout being sa-
tisfied that he had proceeded agaiest the right
quarter, it would have afforded him no means of
ascertainine whether the Hon. Gentleman hail
used the offensive expressious. He would have
punished the act, but perhaps :he innocent per-
son. If he had nut laid his complain,' before
the Holise, he simuld not have known, as he now
that, the whole hi-ne was attached- to the
newspapers. He had therefore no niternat-ive left,
but a personal application to the Hon. Member.
Was it not. theretore his duty, he woeld ask, to
take,care that such an offence -should not he le-
pelted ? For even then he might hive made his
appeal in vain. He might not have had the good
furtuee to deal with such a Gentleman as the
Hon. Member. tie might have wet with , one
who, on the principal admitted by maUy Members,
to dismiss from their minds all they have spoken,
might have alii'Vered that he. knew nothing of
newspaper reports, and that he (Mr. C,) must
judgelor hirnself. This sort, of slander was new
iii the Annals of licentiousness. It was calculeted
to place itoliviiinals iteucle a situation that they
would have no alternative, but the extremity to
Willett he had been compelled
,to have recourse,
and which mig,lit not alwayS produce the saute
restarts. In laying the Newspaper before the
House, be crested it' would be seen that he
Was- not gratifying; any feeling of self revenge,
For hintself, he was perfectly satisfied. But for
the [loose' collectively, for the dignity of its de-
bates, and the security Of their communication
to the count, y, h.e entreated the House to take
the offence into its most seriousconsideration.—
He should not omit, that iu the satne NeWspeeer
of this day there had appeared What he pre-
sumed was meant for an apology. This aeology
commenced in the following manner :—" We re-
gret to state, that a eonsiderable error crept into
our accoont-of Mr. lb-tine's speech on bringing
up the Report of the Committee oil the Finance
Resolutions on Tuesday evening "—A considera-
ble error! interpolation of a whole sen-
tence, and not of one sentence o ly, but of a
mvhole scene ! It then proceeded—" In the great
mass of matter which must every night he got
ready for the press, after the debates in the two
Houses are ended, or while they are going on, it
is impossible that mistakes s!tould not sometimes
occur. We can only say, that it is our most
anxious desire to send forth er just and im-
partial representation of , what passes ; and
wheuever we fail of success, such are still
the paini we take, that we should hardly
have to solicit indulgence - npou the plea of
incuria futlit,' our failure must be laid to the
imperfection of our common nature, !amiantus&
paruni cavil natura: Mr. Hume spoke with much
feeling and animation of the distresses of the
poPr, anti obeerviug, as we understOod by our
Reporter, a smile upon the Minkteriel Beuches, is
tepresemed by us as taxing only one flight Hon.
Gebtletnep, Mr. Canning, with indulging in
la-110 )ler on so se-linos a subject. That Right
honourable Gentleman, we have since learned,
res not present. We shall not now. repeat the
offensive passage for the sake of correcting it 5
sUtike: it cot.e.,y, that Mr. Canning was not at-
tacked as described in our report, We are enabled,
from the most authentic source, to lay before
our reedets the passage which was- so miSuoder-
stood by otte'lieporter."—To this was subjoined
the Same Report which the Hen. Gentleman had
had the goonitees to send him as a correct state-
meot of What he had said.. It the case of, which
he cotripiained were one of outissien or mistake.,
he ghoul(' noelreve thought it entitled to so' much
notice. Bet what did the. Report seate:? Was it
tint 'calculated to createa belief C,tit he,. being
present;' had jollied in alangh at the sufferings of
the people,- earl 'whilst in a long. artifieitle,entenee
reproaches had been uttered almost .past human
beating, that tie, sitting in that House, and with
theit'Smile still flickering on his lips, bad hod the
baseness not to say 'tote word in his own vindica-
tiona---(Heari hearlJ—This could not-be.: attri-
buted to mistake or tocomnion misrepresentation.
It was not (vie• 'those inadverecticies which
incuria fadit.'4.•-fie was more ready to :confess
that- it might be attributed to the imper-
fections of human nature 5 for falsehood was
one of 'its ..imperfections, and malignity_ eno-
ther.—(Hear, hear !)—This apology seemed, to
him, even more than: the original offence, to
require the notice of the House'; because,
instead of allowing that Parliament had a right
to complain of accidental errors, it essioned that
it ought to • be grateful for, the accuracy with
Which: the debates were reported. If this were
admitted, Hon. Members would have no right to
complain if they were unjustly sent forth to the
detestation of the country. lie had also to re-
mark that the offence had been committed on
Wednesday last, and it was not till Monday,:thet
the apology had made its appearance. And:even
then—he did not know the fact—but he thought
it Might have been inserted at the suggestion of,
the.Hou. Gentlemen opposite,, who, though he,
was not one, had acted throughout in its friendly:,
anti active a manner as if he had been an Mice,
rested party. Meantime every Sunday and every
country paper bad copied the offensive paragraph,
and what good could so late an apology produce ?
It this were allowed to pass mmoticed, the House
Would abdicate the power and right which it pos-
sessed, of maintaining its own privileges, which
were those of its. constituents. The House was
bound to defend them against the encroachments
of the Crown on the °fie hand, end against the
encroachments of licentiousness on the other.—
(Hear hear !)—la a case in which he .Was .him-
self concerned, he should not suggest: to the
House any coure for its adoption lie placed the
business in its hands, convinced that it would do
what was bast. calcidated to maintain its, privileges,
anti with them .the liberties of the country.—
(Hear hear!)--He couciuJed by
,hying befo;e
the. House The Times of Wednesday last and of,
this neoeteieg. . ; , -
The first extract containing the offensive pas-

•g'lgd then: feat by t 1:,.! C!eret,.., anti afterwards
the' apology and the corrected averch,
a 3 fo{-
lotvy.t—
-"
Nii.HUME cumplained.pf the Manner in which Gentlemen
on the other side of the HOose toad represented I be cOmlntlet of
those on his side. The Right I ton. ember for Liverpool had
taunted the Right HtM,Meinher on thelloor (Mr-Tierney) for
stating that a reiltctiott of 1,000,0001. in the publit,expendi-
to re: might be ;Mille; and tilld the House, in O'sarciigt lc and
ironical manner, that 2,.0001. trout the Lords of the'Admiralty.
and Ct.ouol—frola_ aSeerg6try..o.LitAlt,t.....h:ttl rit..1)9.1 P.l'o nutA
for retrenchment, making the large sum of 3,0001. t,nl,; that
on 1y.ftg2,0001., reimine.d to make up the million. :qr. 11 :floe
regretted that that Right Honourable Gentleman was not pre-
sent, as he had last, night ridiculed 4he-idea of CC:0740111y, aiid
had, 111 a Moct unwarrantable manner, tausiii of flit, puny
FriVlDgs of a few sir shillings and eightpences.• But let that
and other Honourable Gentlemen cousider what support aid
assistance, even such sinali sums would afford to respectable
and indirstrins families, who could not at the'presetitilme
obtain Si, much wages for-a whole .week of .hard labour. It
could nut be alleged that the 1,11;.-t. trim. mt•mb,:r'%'.aa
rant of those facts, as the petitions,on the (-Able, feptr) the
worl:tnen of Carlisle, Covent ry, and of Perth ,deseri bed in strong
la-ngttagi., the distress of those poor and .sufferin._; wretehes.•
He (Mr. flume) could not detach his. feelings trout the ,on-
dition of thousands now under the grcatest'sofferin4s in cc; ry
district of this ectnury,, particularly, ahem he tlt.aght that
many cf 1110.5 e not' suffering penury and want with t belt fa-
milies; were. perhaps burn • with ,as good prospects in life:as
himself or the Hight Hon. Gentleman. it. was very unfair,
nay, altogether unwarrantable, to talk of such paltry'sturs as
Gs. ad. only,haeing been proposed for redottion by the .om-
sitieen side'oi the House-, when it wait he in .the ~cou,c-thp)
thp) ort be House that the,Honouyahle Member for Woorees,,
ter had pointed out savings to the amount of 150.0001. and
upwards in the army estimates; that. he (Mr—thoror).l.l.
pointed out large sums,. andhad iactuaily moved the House
to deduct 55,0001. from one"eslintate:- It Was too much' io
have such statements tuade: by any Jinn. Mealher, wilco it
was well known to the Wmise they could not be,cor-ect; and
Mi. Hume complained Of tkm aS•atte'mpting to impose upon
the House, luid divert AS attention frion the real state'uf the
establishments of t lat; country.'.'

•
Mr. Huma said, whatever.sentiment.he tn;ght
utter,on any occasion, .and however it might
.he.
called ill litiPSl ion, lie^ certainly would never
shriek trout .ivowing. what ke had. actually
. educed. But he tr.4o.,ted it w..s known to the
House that he had- n6ver been guilty of that pct.-
sonflity which,' in his htotible opinion, detracted
from the force of every tact and every arenment
in support Of any particular proposition_ He had.
left the House at date o'clock in the morning,
alter •he dt hate. and having to.attind a Commit-
tee, had quitted his own house at nine, to be-with
the Committee at ten, and -in consequence he had.
not received a note that was Rik-tressed to him of.
the subject. Ile might be allowed to say of the,
speech io. question, that .11e .ball not made it in
an,4er, but on due reflection. When at-length.
informed of the publication .that;4ad_taken place,
he had said he could have no hesitation. in put—
ling to paper %bat lie bad reallyitttered ;- at the
same time retnatking, that be had not seen the
• paper referred IQ, but denying that any one.sen-
teoce of that which. be was informed, bail' been•
imputed to him was correct. lle had reqacsted
the Richt Honourable Gentleman to send to. hint
the 'Newspaper containing the report in questiotp
to the ,Ulection Committee. .The Paper was sent„
and having read the speech published_ as Itis,.ihe,
could have no hesitation in raying,that, i.t.con-
tained as gross a caltonny.son the Right
Gentleman Aq could be sent forth to the ,w(trld..

He had instantly addressed. a „statement to
this effect to the Right Honourable Gentlenlatt.':
That rime (he hoped the Right Hon. (.ientletwii
would excats,e it), it was hastily is on t) ,e
table of that
!louse, and as Soon,a, he got h!imue,
he committed to paper, as well as be could recol-
lect it, w hat he bad on Tuesday. Those
who were near him on that day knew, that when
lie was speakitig he had lirtikkokfonii44oe the
Member fOr biveroool, and had regretted that lie
was not in his place; 'or he didalot scruple.to
say, that 1.1;o1 he been there, he Shotild haVe h4l.
stronger language thiti► that which 'he• genially
oscd, on what be Understood the Right Ilorroutt-i
able Gent!, min to have said on the sithjeft of
.
" puny tavings."• He tri,:ettuned this to prove•
that he had no objection to avow What be had
actually said. Owing to circumstances,' ro
he bad before alluded, it Was not till Thors-thy night that he wrote down the beads of
hiS Speech. On the foll,)wing' morning he
trar.smitted it to the Right Honourable *Gen-
tleman, and he 'sahsequentltY sent it to the
Editor Of the Paper in which the tnisrepreszan a, ion
bad appeared, at the same trine retioiring him to
make ao,apologyi and fret" give it all.t.hepoblicity
WhiCit the calumny had received. This letterlhe
had' sent by'a servant • of his own, and he teedied
an answer to it, ,stating the Editor to be then ont
of town; •and this might account for the core
rection not havitig appeared on Saturday, ,On
Sunday morning he bad, however, received a let,
ter from the Editor, who had certainly exotessed
a very. st rong reeling of regret, and had- wished to
wait on him to explain what occurred, lie (Mr.
Hume) had, however, thought it better hot to
accede to this request, as he wishedthe business.
to be ,settled without more direct.. interfereuce on
his part, and had accordingly declined seeing
the Editor. He wrote a note , to this ideal,
and sent some corrections of his speech, at
the same time reminding the Editor that it
was absolutely necessary iliac• he should make an,
apology as ample as the correction with which he,
had-been furnished, inahe face of the country,—.
To this he received a note to' the following pnr-,
port The Editor. of. 'The Times ' ,is touch
obligerl to Mr. Hume for the communication with
which Mr. Hume has favoured him, and would. be-;
still more so if lie would havethe goodness to,
snake known to Mr. Canning the Editor's regret!
at finding his Paper has been made.' he vehicle of:
the calumny complained of; The Editor cannot'
himselfhe present' at the debates, out! is obliged'
to plaCe confidence in the Gentlemen who attend,
the,. H oose to report them—a.confidence which he,
has hitherto had no reason to • re,gret should:.
have been 'so placed, and in tbis inatance die
is decidedly of opinion that the -misrepre-.
sentatioti'complained of originated entirely in
mistake, and not in any malignant linen.;
lion, The Editor• would further say, he is
so anxious to stand right with Mr. Home :and.
Mr.. Canning, that,he would be happy to wait on,
them at any hour they may :be pleased to
with the Gentleman who reported the .speech,
apologize for the error."—The Hon.,Member re-.
marked, that so far as he was coocerned he could,
aiot but regret this business. It there were a,
'Member of that Houle with which he
stand•on good terms, it was the Right Honotir•'
able GentleaLan, In the course of their business
(if Ile might use the terns), it was likely thal.they.
would have a good deal to-do together, and if any'

thin:4 en,,Ati 4.nc done for titc gout! of 'ill!. nri.tion, it
• Was more likely to be atwomplished heir actin
together titan Ity giving themstkes isp to 11,,,.e-
-c,"ssHry He vas sorr; that be shon!d
have beeUrtTresented to hold the language imputed
to hitit. Inv at the sanie dine, frorn.the earnest
manner in eliich the.Edttai• hadesuiresscd regret for
whatitati occarred, as well as citcnot"
stances, thought there were goodie ,sons tot he"
loving the assertion, that uhat lipd appeared t 9
the present instance wtis ladkriVy through. a mis'
hopsilit:_wouldbe proved that it oil:
.
'bOwe very
the Edit'or had- he'd tin opportunity• of provitg:,
Perhaps, had 11-- ( .1-; luvieYintlidged the Edhor
,
nylefMStli ting to see hip), he have been tibia
to -explaisi ikavo:e,:ery thing lite. maligtiity.---
' (Cries .04'." N0,::),--711-e• telt that .ive !might hafts
heen,the.,Cailf(C !tis ill: prevented Jrom ntaltd
ing.an apology that have been deemed SP',
• -- tisigctory.(Murtnors.)—F;ar himself be was of,
. .
.
c)i);lllol3.,,tbai the calumny must have brigmateu
mistake, and in mistslie alone.
Mr..LUSH Ts: GT:.) t Iron , after the statement.
made by his Rielit'lloir.nietid, the flosise
feel that tbe.parg;raph coold not have nriginat4'
inisi;f;j', brit *oven' th,i effect otf de-
sign. lie begzseit to recal•to. the Haase that it
was hut last %reek -that-he had felt• it his duty to
'call the-at re.stion of the Housetti tire conduct of
the saute Editor with-respect to the deha!eb of
the, case-of Captain Harfchett. Hera(! then rep''
son to complain of the most foul misreptesentvc
While on his. legs he begged so notice ttil
use which bad been 1114de of the ea:l2llll6es whicn-
on that occasion had been sent abroad.
moroiug be had received inforwatiott
,that nra4,
persons at..cauterbirry who Were wiliticaly
posed to him (Mr. Lushiitgton) were still cow.
',ince(' of the ionocence of Captain Hanchett, antis
in
.proso of his innocence had plibliShett extracts
wlidt.ha'd appeared in the newspaper noW,
Complained of. Thii, he Contended., was to Make
most use-Ot tlr4 breach of privilege
which, the hlonsC overlooked—the report bag of
their debates, and this he thought they were
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time to cow,. . .
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Mr. C. W.. WYNN was of. opinion that the
1 Nouse had but one eotirse to ptiroe—vs order die?,
Publisher toll,eirilti'r. -The permission, or fat he!
i thg connivance et that House,-,,au that breach oe
[ privilege which had been no' iced,, he held to bet"
1 great and important t cfit to the eoirtury ; b"t
Vit could only. he so ‘r.lvile their proceedinv.s woe
S laid r iiTtllliii) ed., :and— 411611-C1 "Aril raT '-ciiisr,lctttr.,
I when their pnblica!iOn was converted into 'en etzd
1 giße,ojsviv4te'rirrilice. In the present ea.e liq.
i could not conceiv,e how. that which had Litten plAce
1 totild'hy possi.hil4 hethe result of accident. Tbz;
l, seemed to him peculiarly that erase in -which tirs
i.Etotise ivrt;:tif.)6o,l to iiiierfere. In iltii ca.se 'l.
I bleach of privilegek, way cOntinitteil in many iii"-*
I,
, qtances,.;f:,Tkey. knew that to publilt- tlieir de...Witt:s
Oat all was a bleach of the:Nivileges of thm I-TOnse,
htit'tlrat-tolisetvit was not abused. they were vai.ll°
lug to overlook it. .A brea.ch of their pre,il.?.ge6
• wits c,titunsi;ted agAinst.thlt 11,1nber -from whom
~
ll the speech was rePretented to come ; and one wB9
i olsi..oternitted .itgainst the'
-Right I lon. Gentle:
mZi'ag,liii-5,}11)21 the foul calurnov was direct cl•
lie therefore thought the' House could pursue or,
t ourr„))nt that of oidering -the'Pnblither of 4
!.Newspaper lo ifie bar Of .116 t Intise. Ile' cOil-
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eludedin by‘ovin-g, • that " (.3j;ell be order'd to
I. attend this Home to:niorro v." The 116-0 Melt!
' tier said, he was not4nre Whether the noire usual
i
cotose of thelidusehad !teen first to decide whe;,,
Ithei:qhat WhiCh'AsTA tlie.t,objf.ct of cOmplaint k. .0*
I or :Nal not a hre'i-;ch'of privi;eges, or whether ro_c
pifitySliiiiild first be ordered :o attend, learingl‘
Ito the House 16 'ireterinine giCoseirent the ciii,"
I tarter of the-P,aper. brought un.ler their conside"
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• RijeAtta said, both courses had been cottl:,.
T4-.l`.;tliwrof a newspaper With brought, he fO.I.
the floose in 1815, Ile was asked it he were thc.
Editor.of-,ihe pziper, and allowed' to .matte his
statement, and art er they had hear(!what he hift'
tf;'say,- theltuM'Se came to Reshlittions. 'l'h=4
was on a paraL:raph ^which had appeared itt:l4
Newspaper. The prese.nt case was ditierent,-, $8
tkeTe-appeared 'on tho'fiectif it a breach of shelf
privileges, in tl;e~puWishmg ot their debates.
W. WYN-Ntv suggested that it might
proper Weirder the Editor to attend. •
,
1:4 N,,,k.:4litE.R. 111 krl: , rnOt.intr eite",, f°=
.C. the Vrin,er. '1 he name of the li;diteC
61),:'
Mr. IJYTTLETota.tholight the malignity tit 114
paragraldCWas apparent. He for his own p."c
had no.doubt that itatl-been'conceived •in
In such a casl
the Elc,itse was liothild to interfere.
• The.SPEA-KEroltserved, 'it was usual for the
warrants of 00(40Ilse to be directed by moue.
They wovld see what, would be the situation cif eft
oflirer of that House, if he were directed-ouly.br
the de.sCriptiOti of the party tii'dered to attend.!*
If any-Member knew the-,,ante o-f.the.Editor,4l)4.
House infOrdr.tion front one of its
..Meinberi,' and the *at t eittiou re ot rho hoividttni
could be ordered. If the.. o^tlir,ary course wer°
!talien, he ..thonettl the ,11-onse., would order 1115
'Pi inter or Pt; blis•her to iitilLid,lo' Order to tiPer'
thin from. him. (if . n ere thought ;necessary.) tl'•°
• tie;tiVe ibt • the 1e.,0 •
;Ur, WYNN thought the PubliAterflugut to
Procred to attcruVt.liewas t-ITV per;ion whose nate
was 6rflered by litw to be printed -in the paper,
and tlferefote his atrendance. should first re
They cool I 'then inquire the name of t If
Editor, nod tko order for his attendance.
an ardtr:vvere made 14.)r the attendance of- ill:
liame nut beiritt 'stated, such orde•`
vvtittiti he more in the shape of a general ‘wor-
tant tiny thing rise.
Mr. LYTTLET;YN• was 1111derPtt7orl to ingthr-
the.-14.n. Member • Who had beenin cotuniuni.cir'
tioti
.fe •
wi;11 the Editor-coul&state.his.nante ?
ihtmit mid,- the-Person spoken of had del
seabed himself in..the pole that be
.bid receive'
•in!tcly as the Editor of l'he
CASTLERVAGII'WaS of opinion that this.' ''at
.
one of the grossest breaches of thor•privilege..s tPe
o culd be committed,. and he 11?nrignt the flo'luse
ought nut to separate-withoot tkciAring it tp
such.
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"I not on'ly.a hrcach..nt 'their iirivtieses, but it
.oso gt o.sly
Lot,! CAA'ri.BREAGH ItiOleglit 'that to give ttme
Tor the porp,:qe of tratning'a resolution to meet
tue occasion, it might not be inconvenient to post-
Pnne proceeding fitrther than had
~been 4beatly
Pr'posed till 0-morrow.
Mr. 13ao'nonaat believer] that there was in the
Ilouse but one opinion on the merits of the case.
tliery one who had heard the clear and forcible
ht4tetnent of the Right Hon. Gentleman must be
t)tiviticed that a tiros. breach of their privileges
litul been committed. He would, however, require
the. attention of the House,tor a few moments,
be-tailed their attention to what
:might be
the eonsquence of the present pracetding. It
the motion non' before the Honse' were agreed to,
bk did not see that they- could stop there. This

Was. not the only instance in which the inost,gross
'and. palpable mirepreyrntations hail taken place
6t. What hail pas.e,i in that lionse. -lie spoke not
of the mere technical breach of their privileges, by

Which They, and the country, and the.Consi it ut ion
I`ere r.,,,iners in the publication of the debates. in
hat Uonse, nor of the inconveniences sustained
how the frequent accidental inaccuracy 'of re-
11Ofts, but lie stmke ot cases like the pres,Alt,
stood at the head of the catalogue of such
'ffences, where the breach of the privileges .of that
linuse was used its the means of gratiqina: sari-
-1" Ale toolice. Tlicre y/tl3
.another tv.dy-of tuisre-
Pr.eting what passed in that Honse.. This was
dot by the clumsy lA'ay 'ot putting into the
rtiontlis:ot Gentlemen what they bad never said in
the form 01,,,, comment katnade:by the
Vthlish.er, 0. Ito could tipt tnit.ake, but who
fulls misrept esented thcm, to giatify his oxti
or that 'of. (idlers, 16 whom he' Chose to lend
13`inIsrif. To ,enunaeLate,,flie. -various, instances

had occityred, there 1,t,051;,. not nter.ely iik-
atnne, hut enitless. He would only refer to the
t'o'ss kind bad been broul:hi''llo.
tote the [4,44)5e.: la thAt case the

mt,irt,b r hid,beea rcpr,f,sented

10 ay said, it. would` !lave
.„
."'eit impossible 'for (Ntr. I;rinigliaru) arid
"'hers 10 ait by and hear it. This inisrepresenta-
-I,lon.wasmost wilful and inaliigitant —he '„saiel,
1,.("1 and itialk:n..int
:for hile '111.511W pail.. of the
.raper the Noble Lord ki •I•S' reprrseilted to say
Ithat he (lid pot- .s,aV, by the
Pam of the saute HelliiC.:l Paper :the. Reporter
given a true repnt
,t 4 wbac itcitially,oc-
ttkrred. The Editor, however, finding else,A here
tt false •report ilia' w',s' inure to .his.parpris'e;
,tad founded his conttitents fie had
ll'ou Itt it lit to state this to Oe..l\ternber•tor
lie inimetlia:ely disavow,c(l the \,ords
•nlip,ried to him, 4,1 d every at irCl ap!,i
stiff to thtra. !Acre the !less. foiled , loose
in his opinion, witiyil.eeliiied t:•King Itir7
dirt' notice of it. Now whv*:',id Ire th:lt the
11"ase had aet(rl wiselyin this. I;e:l.,se, had they
mice begun there. wOuld have bten-no_end to it.
21e 1;11(.4' of-others 'WhO; had 'reason
'but %v b.) were.. unwilling to do So. how':
if A, B cml C, took notice of their .IrPieing
'lkea • 11-.l,pre%e•itt di would fret thents4ves cunt
-r`-lied to •rto the same, or thry must seem to HO'-
(14"it'SCC 111 the sentence_falsely imp,,tad i.o them.
„,,
'36'4 it was true, Jrad happened in the 1.t51 Parlia„-
'zinent ; hitt not ntore.thati 3 or 4 .creki ago, some
.kross nos. p,il.llisi,ed,. not -in the
lePoits, hot 10 the comint-o,ls ot; ,A•i::At had passed
'9 that House, which Lool a s'.i!.cct tendency to
", he Hon Alemhet for Sof-folk heconot the
o,jt.et p,,ohtat viol,in.c. Now What he,,islied
.10 inipi-1.;.s on the Hoit',:e they
Inee began, theysini4! flnd —it hard Co'
_Stop.
.4;here would he so .moelb'tO lie don'e,''lie*meiiiit
-with respect to the'pa'.4 (tor -its 'to.; lie future rhat
must depend-upon the parties concerned) that the
t'suit -would be a-great impriinoent thrown in the
%‘'-ay of those accurate reports of- the =proce'edto'gs
:
'll that the publication of, wbicti was
'6I'WAYS-;lle,liirdblC;.• ; edit 110i_ OiTufic .the present
..'11.0'41-i.0n.„;,,:1ie 00:y wislied not.:.to. warn
brit to request than, to give their .ot.ftetition
I°' What would he the crwsequences of ear.-
rYing If,4TrfreFffts:-,T'ii—W7ts—lhosught right
'to pet ser,re; -those..l„vito.. supported
":tueet. with .no ..oppcsition,. fr`onr irittt. To
"I"'"ititain the pi is ileges :-:of that. Hoilse,•s4tich pro,
I,feeding3 its those cornplailie.:l of Inusrbe-chec•keil;'
he, would-only •ask 'the-Right Hon. Gentleman
had not 'now been done,?.. Ampl.e.r
tiee ita‘ing taken.otallis Hinist cpresentatioti
than oi tliat:to•.whien he had before alluded,. be
'‘'.kr"ttlik ask the Hon.....Gentleinan if the of-
' ?nee r s tot he trpeatedl . 'Whether the
Molise 'attended toliirmor not,: he, at least,- had
'4°lleb.is..dury,.;by w.arning,those who 11,id.oillud,
rd, if not by their malice, by their negligence,
!I'm the power of .that llouseextuudell
iy to pi.,,i,h incorrect, reports,. but all itti,,repre
::I!qta,tions.of what passed there, as breaches of its
privileges.
g.‘ Mr. cANtcitto.. s7.ltce., the. J-11m. and Learned
;_4elttletuatt had asked hi; opinion, rose to say, as
41-e. ,P.(1.,bi.-fore said,, that it was not iii
go any further. Ile had discharger! •P4i"rtli
not front any personal feeling, but because
lic had felt that lie ;night do good by hringipg the
B"biegt foriVal'll: having done so, for. the same
reason .which Ii ad regulated his conduct heroic,
gamely, bit own personal implication in .it,. he
should.abstaiu front giving any opinion%on it.: •
Mr. WAlWololt.giil 10 111,1, 011 the. alfiii‘E: of the
liquourable and Learned Gehtletuan, would.open
the door to endless attacks, not oilly oo the Right
Honourable Gentleman but 011 the , Honourable
and Leaned Gentleman opposite. In the last
instance, evtsen a, case of this description camebe-
,tiore the House, the Hon. and Learned Member
•the, House n iscly decided to t,ke.. II"
further notice of it than to hear the misrepresen-
tation, corrected. He thought it was because that
toing so they acted unwisely that. the pres-tor •
cause. of complaint came before them. lie did
,trot lee how the tigose could stiffer suelt.un . at-
tack 0111w° of its Members to patis without some
Punishment more or less, noless• they Poeiint to
`:.YjOiat they would punish no attack
.011. (411'
juit.rnivtilyvisici
;eif: lie could hardly .conertv-c the
of the Press that cotthi
be itttti
g'ovt!, winsid lead to it more atrocious vit'l3t.i."°
of them than the present. The favour ot. the
publication • • ,
in . • it;
nr,the•proceechngs Pat'lttimelbad
beeo.-
o4e necessary to the woilcing of our Copsti-

:whin, but still Iteo4,not see how nn 'offence
like the present 'could he suffered to pass ha-
checked, without 'ereatitig- po‘%er over their
greater than themselves, which would- at
once be master of that Howe, anti of the feel-
ipgs, character, anti honour` of every indiVidnal
in it:

The question, was then put and carried—that
Mr. C. Bell do attepd the House to-morrow,
A Message From tine Luids ietptested the linnuse
to permit Mr. H. SurviNea to 'attend the Coin=
tuittee on,Jails. The rtquest was taken into eciu-
sid.eration; pettnisOon was given in, Mr. H. Stn:
ner to attend, Hinl the Messengers were Called in
rind informed O the

NEW .TAXES.
jr. Ber.NAL l►resented a Petitipn front toe
Nialtsters of Ltncoltt, contphtliting of the new
Malt Doty, on account of its 1.0. in intetitld to
attach .to tl►e stock on h.and, and' thus have the
effect of es; post facto taw.—Orclerea to lie on
the table.
„ ,

Mr. WESTERN presented a Petition froth certain
Owners ind'OcennieTs Linil in Essex a'painst
the new Malt—Duties.—Ordered to lie-•on. the

Lit'd OSBOR presented a petition &am
OCettpkrs anti' others in the nAgh.-
bntirhooti aCettrthritli4 which,,aoer it few words
from My. N. CALVJAIT, %VAS. Oi titred to be Fiqted.