The Sun.
London, England, 1828-02-19 00:00:00

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it titiititatifi, tbeehatatikit. of a CliUtian 'minister to
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mania, spore Ositictilarly in: a cask where unjust impu-
tations'bive been now Comes forward and ad-
dresses me in a leliet'ealctilited to set my conduct at Li-
verpool in its )true hear.)--The name of
the individual who has thus addressed me, is the Rev. W.
Shepherd. I believe he is known to the Honourable and
Learned Gentleman opposite, who must also know that he
is a person incapable of making an intentional misstate-
ment.
Mr. BROUGHAM was understood to assent to the
Right Hon. Gentleman's observations.
Mr. Secretary HUSKISSON—The Rev. Gentleman
can have had no motive for the course he has taken in ad-
dressing me on occasion of the statements which had been
made relative to my Liverpool speech, except the unim-
peachable motives of honesty and justice. I repeat, the
Rev. Gentleman has come forward for the sake of public
justice. Sir, I have only to say, that if 1 had not received
this letter, there would appear nothing more than my own
assertion on the subject of what I intended to say,and did say,
at the Liverpool election,as opposed to what, I maintain, are
the imperfect and unsatisfactory reports of what I then utter-
ed. Perhaps the House would have thought my own
simple and unsupported assertion (unsupported except by
the character fur integrity which I have always maintained I
sufficient. Certainly 1 should never have deigned to sv,-
licit testimony in corroboration of my own simple state,.
ment from any quarter whatever—least of all from this
quarter, which of all others is one to which no man in
my situation, desirous of availing himself of the evidence
of another, could for a single moment entertain the idea of
applying. I have only to say this letter, which I shall
now proceed to read to the House: contains a statement
purely and entirely voluntary on the part of the writer.
It is addressed Huskisson, Req. M.P." anti
is dated I 4th of Febrnary, from the ordinary residence of
the reverend writer.

The Right Hon. Gentleman proceeded to react the letter;
which was in the following, or nearly the following, terms
" Sir—On reading the Morning Cloi•anicle this even-
ing, it appears to me that the London Reporters havf,
strangely misapprehended an important statement in your
late speech made on the hustings, on the occasion of you' -
re-election."
As I stood close to the. Rev- Gentleman on the lo4stings„
and he marked, as it was his duty to mark, what fell from
me on the occasion of my re-election, there can be little
doubt of the favourable situation he was placed in for oh
serving my statements. It will also be admitted that he-
was not extremely likely to misapprehend them. But the
letter proceeds :
Ctteriode:a'rlCharles
restedioGenaroayninontlttt hoseapntoch,kioeme opGnfoeosgiinei
,roirnina‘m.ni:teifeunetats you
hl
Lord:ar}
ea)i Cabinet, t
now call to mind."
The writer goes on—
"Of personal guarantees as demanded from, and g ive'•
by, the Nike of Wellington to you, you did not say or'
word."—[Loud cheers followed the reading of this passat
This sentiment, if it hail been uttered—or any thing s-
it—must have been heard, but the Rev. Gentleman, wi Zu
stood beside me, is perfectly unconscious of any such do -
claration having been made. The circumstance is f.Pks-
tainly deserving of the attention of the House% What szi,
Mr. Shepherd ?
" Of personal guarantees, as demanded from, and tiven
by the Duke of Wellington to you, you did not say one
word. Accordingly, in my reply to your speech, the es-
sence of what I said was expressive of a doubt as to
whether the construction of the Cabinet was such as to
,nable you to find support for your liberal views."'
This is the opinion of a competent, and assuredly not (ir.
cv favour) prejudiced witness.' His letter fully acquaint..
me of having used the alleged term in the sense 111eged.—
(frear.)—Heaven knows how much I have suffered unde,
the imputation. I trust the House will consider my ex,
culpation complete.—(Hear.)—The letter does not. cup
elude here, and I believe I had hotter read the remaiode•
I it, it goes on to say—
" Peihaps before you receive this, you may h.ave
auntlet through the House of Commons."._('
laughter.)
" If this letter can be of any service to yi
disposal, Ministers have sufficient to ans.
being inconvenienced by the errors of
press."—(Laughter.)

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There is a postscript w):.4.i., "W. SHEPHERD."
cGommunicate the conterA of 'iv:
some cowmen tl tt7e, rr, .•
but that bu t‘ •e, • he notproceed -
..,. . . stir point may
;rounds, i wr,h
letter to hir.n."—(Laughter.)
lam quite ready (continued the Right 1-i noses,,, ~
tary, making a motion to hand the letter "a -' -7- 6em-•
to o,ei, the Reverend writer's inir 'to Mr., 11,ong..hara )
Mr, HROUGHAM—It is `actions In tA.° respect.
quite unneco,:aary
'hell4-' tli n Gentleman' .
~g.n o . ---I accept
.. s personal guarantee.—.(A laugh,)
Mr. Secretary N
- eTe/SKISSON—I trust, Sir, I -
hear no more ar
...cer to-night of subject in relation t„
which I ha -
_,e been clearly misrepresented. Ravin; • stated
thus -.ouch on the subject of a mistaken word, and -
mat have been made of it, I am ready to 0w... re: the uses
irly, that
with respect to political principles, aro, '
-o the
;rowing out of them from the very fei_ / bev.. measures..
been under
no great apprehension that we (1-* m, ," e
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'.,is . ajesty s existing Go-
vernment) are very likely to ',offer among ourselves. Gm i
tletuen talk of the mea'iires and principles connected with
our foreign aid kneotic t,44 ; but these matters are nor
unfrequently made the subjects of much loose and vague
declamation, T acknowledge that there are certain mea •
a ilognratinit:
sures and principles in relation to which it is neoemary—
, :,:-..solutely necessary—to, have an understanding, or it
impossible for a Cal :Met to agree. But it appear, to me,
that if a fair and distinct understanding subsist between the
i, ,nembeet of a Government, as to gene:ai principles, that is
ufllcient. Sir, I do not know what people mean bc-
, talking of the principles of our domestic and foreign poliev
except in so fax as th.t application of principb;:
relates to meaaw-s tQ to adopted in regard to foreieu
and domestic affairs. Of the principles we never lose -sight ; but their application must mainly, if it dves
not entirely, depend on the nature of particular cir-
cumstance; and events, if I seas be allowed tt, illus.. tratz the point by a reftircnice to subjects which I introduced
I'u the course of my speech at Liverpool, I will say that
the expedition to Portugal in the last vat:, and our recent
iuterfereoce in the affairs of Greece, form parts of out
foreign policy during the last IS months ; and grow not
so much out of any geneer.l system, as they proceed from
the effect of necessit:y operating under particular circum-
stances. With. respect to measures of domestic policy, I
will to .c the question of the silk trade. 1n reference to
it that branch of our manufacture, I thoe
,ght it desirable to,
assimilate its rate:ll6°n to the condition of the other great
branches a our trade. That was, the application of a ge-
, Ineral principle to a particular ca',e ; but tlat Bon. Gentle-
men (Messrs. . Williams arid Ellice) /ate Members for
Lincoln and Coventry, but not now ia the Nouse, opposed
Ithe application of a principle (from which, I believe, they
were not averse in the main) in this particular instance.--
The Hon. Menabers, as I. have already said, did not oppose
the general prirgii-Je, but its peculiar application as it re.,
garded the silk trade. They not only considered the prin_
ciple rxiand, but the measure in qt;estion judicious, it ap..
plied at a proper time. However, they contended that
I that was not the time far its introduction and application,
The application, of general principles, then, canl only rntae,
their ape cation at the proper time, 1n.....,refe 'epee to the
t‘ hen I s -that
existing eircu.msttuices of the country.
40. . ay,
are t
the general, principles of our policyllost, altered, I
may he allowed to refer to w Noble Friend, at the
hat We
head of the Cabinet, has said., .
'n another place. Other
.1 - ments • I trust have quoted -;.-4C." , ust i also may he
me Noble Duke sa --
permitted to do so. be '--'----
„ it
cawAo.:4 of pourse, forgotten, that / was a Aferi-
ber oft. Lord Liverpoor3 Cabinet, and that, in being so, I
the greater part of in . was a party tomeasures upon cr'nict,
wet the h ! theit proposed to vim'. ' u_s::l,..-ss (lithe present Admini-
stration ; that I concarrf4 in those measures, and that,
with others, -1 shar
equally T . .
e their full responsibilitN. How
then, could -I, ethos
the
the least show of consistency—the
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•g melt regard for character, depart from the maintenance
And Pwseeutinu of measure-, to which I already stoat':
pledged."
, sir, in thes,,. s,yo-$.4.4 I find a guarantee (if there were
none eiseWl'4Te) of the Noble Duke's intention to maintain
the eutab3ised principles of our domestic and foreign po-
licy. T 11,3 Noble Duke supported the expedition to Po.-
tuPli and his signature is attached to the Protocol drays.r,
up at St. Petershurgk, on the subject of Greece. That
Protocol bears his name, and involves his assent to our po-
licy in relation to- the matter referred to, independently of
the Noble Duke's verbal declaration to the same effect.
Attempts have been made to insinuate the connection of the
Noble Duke with the narrow and bigotted policy of.
other Courts than our own, and to identify him
with all that is reprehensible in the bad faith
and insincerity of foreign politician,. In answer
to these imputations, 1 refer the Noble Duke's
calumniators to his own declarations and acts. These af-
ford the best tests of his real views and principles. Sir, it
is impossible to attack the principles of the present Admi-
nistration, without at the :',sine time aspersing this cha-
racter and measures of the late Administrations. I again
refer to the conduct of the Noble Duke now at the head ot