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tlpon, its being exported. Russia, with. the eX-
teption. of our American Colonies, was the only
country now favoured in our present timber in-
'''lercourse ; and this regulation he thought would
be found in its effects to be highly prejudicial to
•our North American Colonies. He concluded
with professing his determination to. oppose the
ndment and support the original motion.'
Mr. RICARDO professed-he thought the boon
intended to be given by his lion. Friend's Amend-
ment to the merchants of Norway was inconsi-
-d•erable. It was, in fact,' but a remission of
'duty. No monopoly would be created to Nor-
way of, the Timber Trade by acceding to the
proposition. now made by his Hon. Friend. It
was said there • was no compulsion to purchase
• from our American Colonies, but was it not a most
effectuitl'species of compulsion to purchase from
North America, when all duties on her timber
were taken off, and additional duties were laid
. 'on Norway'timber, so as to put it quite out of the
market. He should, under these circumstances.
• -vote for the Amendment of his Hon. Friend.
Mr. K. DOUGLAS thought an intermediate
• •scale.Of duties might have been adopted, so as to
-arrange the matter more equitably between the
Baltic :rowers. It was most desirable that a
• -competition should be established in all branches
of the Timber Trade. One great objection to
. the ;reposed regulation was; that it would not
-tiviie into operation for two years. In a further
..stage of the Bill, he should propose what he
...Imagined would prove a more equitable principle
to regulate these duties.
Sir W. DE Catsmoxy trusted the House.
--Iyould not forget how much was due to the inte-
rests of its colonial trade in any future arrange.;
ment..

Mr. GLADSTONE considered it would be most
unwise to lay a_ duty on foreign deals, merely in
orcler, to encourage the sawing of deals is this
country. He should prefer the consideration of
• the snbi-ect in a Committee of the House.
'• Mr. G. BENNETT contended that the interests
of Norway, of Russia, and of Canada, were con-
tinually thought of, but not one word was heard
.of the interest of the consumer. It was here that
be took his stand, and had from the first moment
up'to the present opposed the Bill. There could
be nothing so absurd as to talk of competition,
ivhen they were laying on duties to enable a dis-
tent country to compete with one which was close
efland. He was glad to hear that this was to'
be a temporary measure ; he hoped that it would
not last a twelvemonth. The colonial interest had
o t been considered by the Committee, so much
as the interestsof the canting, hypocritical, blood
•-.-stained, despotic Government of Russia.

• •T heamendment was then negatived without a
division.
The Bill went through a Committee, and Mr. WALLACE
moved that the Report be received to-morrow.
After a few words from Mr. Bennett, Mr. Wallace, and Mr.
P. Grant, it was agreed that the Report should be received
to-morrow, and the Bill read a third time on Thursday.
Mr. HUME gave notice of a motion for Thursday, relative
to the attendance of the Advocate-General at Courts-Martial.

ARMY ESTIMATES.
UR= the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE-
(VitaI, the House then went into a Committee of Supply.
Lord PALMERSTON moved a Resolution for granting the
sum of 66141. for the service of the Director of the Medical
Staffs Department.
Col. DAVIES said that the Physician-General in 1816 re.
ccived• a salary of 7001. whereas it was now 20001. He consi-
dered the grant to be extravagant, and should therefore move a
reduction of 12001. He moved, as an amendment, that the sum
of 44141. should be substituted for that proposed in the Reso-
lution. •

Lord PALAIERSTON said, that the duties of the Director-
General's Department were of an important nature, and pro-
duced the half-yearly reports made to head-quarters. The
business of the Cffice could not be carried on by less means
than were now proposed.
,Mr. MIME said, that in another year, if the Noble Lord
would take the trouble to examine, he would find that thii esti-
mate might be very well reduced 12001.
After a few words from Lord PALMERSTON' and Mr. BEN..
NE7.T the Amendment was negatived without a division, and
the Resolution carried.
The next Resolution was for a sum of £10,517 for various
Irish departments.
HUME moved an Amendment that the sum of £7OOO
be 'substituted. There was one item to which he particularly
objected. It was that which provided for the Medical Inspec-
tor General in Ireland. He had said on a former occasion that
tlyesc Officers were riot liable to be sent on foreign service, and
the noble Lord contradicted him ; but he had since ascertained
that what he had stated was perfectly correct.
Lord PALMERSTON admitted that the superior Officers
wqre exempt from foreign service, but those in inferior stations
were not.

heir H. PARNELL supported the Amendment.
Mr. G. BENNETT said, that if a Houseof Commons went
on disregarding the Petitions of the People, and voting such
Estimates as those now before the House, such a House of
Commons would no longer be a blessing, but a curse to the"
country.—(Loud cries of " Order !" and " Chair !")
The CIIATRMAN said, that the Hon. Member must be
aware that he was exceeding the utmost limits of debate in the
laiguaoe he had used. •
.Mr. BENNETT said, that he had only stated a supposed
case. If the House were to act in a certain manner; it would
then he what he described it. The Hon. Member
.supported
the -Amendment.

Ford PALMERSTON would not remark upon the"tone in
which the /ion. Member thought proper to induge., for he was
sure it *mild have all the effect upon the house which it de-
served.--(Gifeers.)
Mr. GORDON said, that the disposition to economise now
evinced by the Goiernment was chiefly -to be attributed to the
exettidn3 of his Hon. Friend the Member for Aberdeen.
After alevi wards from Mr. llurne,. the House divided—
; For~ the Amendment - - - 45
Against it -
- • Majority in favour of the Resolution —54
The next Resolution was for a sum of £27,824 for the, Medi-
calSettitg or the Army.
Cdionel DAVIES aaid that the medical expanse of the Army
wrs gr.Je.ter ..now than in the time of war ; and moved an
Ara:cid:rent for redirtingl.s,ooo from the Estimate. •
FERGUSON called the attention of -the Committee
to the ninth Report'of the Military Inquiry, wherein they re=
comqlendexi,.thatthe patent place of Apothecary-General, held
by
.Igr._clarnier, should be discontinued, and the medicine for
the Army 'purchased at Apothecaries' Hall. He expected some
explarktion An that .subject, as well a; the Botanical Garden;
and mpyed that the Resolution be postponed.
C4oneIDAVIES wished rather to curtail the vote than post-
pone it: • .

4...ordTALMEII.S TON said, the fact was, Mr. Gamier had
a patent ;which entitled him to supply.the army with medicines.
Since tlid -expiiation of that patent and the death of Mr. Gar-
nier,'Mr. C. Clark, who had been in the employ of Mr. Gar-
nier, was, engaged to purchase medicines for the public. That
Ocr:tleinan had bought drugs. Of the parties who sold them to
the .Apothecaries' Company, which had led io a reduction of
their prices.' .111 r. • Clark had greatly benefited the Medical
Boart, and there was not the least ground to in pute blame to
that. individual.

Mt.'lll.3lE:objected to the emplorpent of. Mr. Clark. It
was the duty of Governinftnt to buy their drug.s''itt once of the
Apothecaries Company. He wished to know trom•the Noble
Lout where the London depot of Medicine was:. '
Sir R: FERGUSON explained. • •
Mr. W. SMITH observed, that ,Mr. Gamier held the patent
to the day of his death. That individual, supplied good medi-
cine, but he did not supply it cheap. Forty per cent. was his
constant gain on the article. He thouglat a reduction might be
male,

Lord PALMERSTON said, the London depot of medicine,
vral- the house in London for keeping; mexiicine. The Botani-
cal Garden was. Ict on foot by Sir George Young. It was of
considerable benefit to science. If, however, a garden of this
scrt was necessary, he was ready tc admit that it ong'r.t te,b4 at