The Sun.
London, England, 1810-05-08 00:00:00

DUKE OF BRUNSWICK,

On re-entering- the G:ller), Mr, WIIITBItEAD
was on his leg% opposing the Report of the.COrn-
mittee on his Majesty's.Mesgage respeaing
sion'for the Duke of Brunswick. -

Mr..TiEENEY, though be admitted, the propriety
of making a provision for the 'Duke of *Brunswick,
thought it ought to be paid from another fund, and
wished to know what had .hedorne of the Admiralty.
Proifs, as' also the amount of his Serene Highness's
income, at present.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQ.UER was happy
no difference of opinion existed aS to the: propriety
or making a provision for that illustrious personage.
He thought the tjuestions which had been-put to
him would not have been asked had those by_ whom
they were put been in the Howie_when',he brought
the subjea, forward. The present income of. the
Duke of Branswiek did not exceed 16,0001. The,
pension was not to be placed ott the -fund from
which it was 'proposed to pay it- as a permanent
grant. ,
Mr. 13,-!NSONRY thought the sum proposed too
large. The Duches4 of Brunswick - had 'lO,OOOl.
per -annum, and now .t
,was proposed to grant to
the DUke BrUnswick 70001, objeaed to
it, thinking f7,p001. too much to be drawn from
that fund. • •

Mr. TI RaNEY again inqnired as to the Drcifs.

Tile CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied.
`After ~:hich,the report was agreed to, and a Bill or-
dered accordingly.

SUPPLY.

Mr. LUSIUNGTON brought tip the Report of the
Committee of Supply which was agreed to.
On a 0100011 for the House resolving itself into a
Comirn'ttee of Supply, •
Mr. Hustussotst opposed'going into the Commit-
tee to vote the naval estiroa;es that night. PO Fri-
clay he had stated his wish to call for further doeu-
Ments ; for which, however,--he did not move. It
was titte; those docurnetif's were now on the table,
but it was impossible. f`or him.ta look into them at
'that hour, in a-manner that would do justicel6 the
Public. The object he had in view, it must be felt,
was of gr,eat importance; not as. to. the feelings of a
.party, but as it concerned the health, comfOrt, and
safety of troops sent on foreign service, while at the
same time; it involved a, questiob of public eco-
nomy. 1-leshonld feel it tobe his duty to move for
other f)apers; that the' queStion might , be' brought
fairly 'before the Horse. - After 'all he could do, lie
thought it would be necessary to move fair a Select
Committee, 'to examine the whole of the documents,
and repoit iliereoli to the House:
The CHANCEL:LoII-of the Excti E Q.T/ E aF.,,,reed with
his Hon.. Friend is to the importance of the .subjea.
Hewould give all .the aid •he could, -and when he
bad the intotniation he desired, it would- be for did
House to decide on thernerits-ofsthe question., -The
sobjellit, he beggfr-,cl to inform the .Hon. Gentleman,
had nevi: r been lust sight of, it was now in progress;
and some ships of lift line bad already been employed
in thetranspott service. If
.flie- Hon. Gentleman
wished the . rote ler that service deferred, ,he cer-.
tainly would not ptess.t he subject; but if the Howie
should be in favour of employing ships "of the line for
transports, still he .believed-his Hon. Friend was
awaie it was-t,,eeessary'steli a vote shopitld pass lb
:pay thedelit'sCoti-Ated.in the Transport service. IC
he succeeded in convincing,% he thought he would
not wish for any great deduction ftom the vote'; for
pis own part, '-was much shaken in his opinion
that such 'a sytcr_l "would be less expensive than the
pr4'.sent. He tho.-ii'ot there could be no objection to
going into the Committee of Supply.. • •
Mr. 'Husxissot<admitied, that as the ,expenses
were already to a great degree incurred, tbe'vote
could not be omitted this yetr,
After a few words from Mr. R.Ward, Mr. Rose,
Sir C. Pole, Mr.' W. Smith. and Mr. Caleraft; the
,CoMmit tee was postponed to Wednesday.

7:1-1E.IRISI-I FLAX REGULATION SEED BILL.
The Order of the Day being read for going', jut°
a Committee on this Bill, .
Sir JOHN NEWPORT opposed it. -He said' this
measure took' its rise fron-t the fameus Orders in
Council. The difference's with Amierica having
rendered it difiicult to. obtain' flax sued front' that
country, there was a greaCsearcity Of that article in
Ireland, aj-t,l it became necessary to endeavour tobb-
tain a supply of it from Eughnd." Insprg.9ois or
0;111111TESi6111.",r3 were Gent= from Ireland to this
cr4itry to—find ilax seed, lit for
_soWirtg ; they
intcstigat,ld. all oil-mills of this country, and

branded the' casks -of seed drat.. they thought f t
for .that-rise, .With _the royal brand, which was
intended tos•be a certificate to the bu)er, that
it would, answer the purpose That he intended
it -for ';but in ‘nine -cases out of ten, they, were.
_deceived; and _ the present Bill went to indent,
tiny the sellers against anions being. - brought
against them, without . their unfortunate customers
ltdd 'a written warranty. He (the Hon. Bart.) had a
conversation- tyith one of-those ContrniSsioners;•Who
told hitn. he thought. it was better that Ireland
shbuld have half a trop-of flax than, none.: could
this be .considered as an answer to the poor culta7
-valor of the article, when he was led to believe,
that, by the King's brand, he was free from im-
position. He could say further, that many had not
a_ crop at.all, and. they and their familieS had 'been
made objetls of charity.--He would not, at that
late hour of -the night, enter further into the ques-
tion, 'but he thought• the Hon. Gentlemen on the
opposite side, would feel at least the necessity of its
committal being pO,..tponed.

• MC. FOSTER contended that this Bill, was neces-
sary,.. .order to put an :end to the dreadful system
of fraud acid perjury, which was at . present prat-
tised-in Ireland,- upon this subject. A great num-
ber of actions had been brought, tand mere, 'he had
no doubt, would be brought by the buyers of flax
seed against the :tellers, and though no actual war-
ranty had been given respecting the seed, yet wit-.
nesses were alwayS:found, who positively swore, that
a warranty had been givon-, and Verdicts were given
for the plaintiffs. The obje& of this Bill was to pro'-
vide that no aelion -should be maintainable ex-
cept• where there. had been- a wzrratity in -writ-
ing, and the clause for that purpose had been
issued verhatifn. frotn.the Statute ut Frauds.

PONSONBY declared, that he could never, agree
to such a measure as was then. proposed: The
preanibleofhe-Bill set ow; that. no; man could bring
an anion against another for selling him an article in-
ferior in-quality to'what he had agreed for, without
his having a written warranty. The Bill went to
do away with that which he' never would cpnOnt
to, the right of the-subject to bring in 'action. He
would ask; why actions of this nature should be
more liable to encourage perjury than any other t?
He wished that an Hon. Gent. opposite him (the
Attorney-General) would give his opinion of such
a -.Bill ; it would. be that it was urronstitutional,
that any class of men-should be d.eprived of the right
Of applying to the laws of their country for redress,
when aggrieved or imposed on. It was contended
by the. Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Foster), that all the
anions that had been brought, were supported `by
perjury and fraud. How he could supporrthis_at%.
gutiient,, he was, at a loss to know, when it was
agreed on all sides, that the inspectors only contem-
plated-a half-crop, and the sowers were led to. be-
lieve, under the stamp of Goverment, they were
purchasing that which would give a full crop. Under
tbbse considerations, - he would oppose the Bill in
every stage, more especially as he considered it 'as
,an ex post facie law.

Mir. FOSTER -denied that it was intended that.
this law should have a retrospective operation.
-Sir CHARLES l; RICE complained much of -what
the• oil merchants had suffered, The inspecto;s
came to England, and tot4t upon themselves :to
say, whether the seed would answer or not. Those
they, bought it 'of never. considered,- or thought,
that they would be called on. to guarantee that it
should produce an extensive crop. He had docu=
mews in his posession from Mr. M`Kenzie, an
agent,. of an action h►ving been brought against.
him from the failure of the produce of .some of
this seed, where a verdict was given against him of
; the costs amounted to 701. The letters also
mentioned,- .that juries and witnesses were pre—
possessed against the English dealer. •
Mr. A. BARING thotight the bill had a tebdency
to oppression, which ought hot to be encouraged,
and was of opinion, that it was like a proposition
'which had been made by- the Right lion. Gentle-
man (Mr. Foster) to cover Excise. Officers, which
had been thrown out by that House.

Mr. 1109 E said the rase of the owne.s of the
flax-seed in' this country was a %wry hard one,
•but he had Some, doubts as, to the remedy.' - The
owners of the seed in this country- did not send it
to Ireland of their own accord,; it was after much
entreaty that they consented to dor it, because they
were. making a very large profit upon Miele. They
did, however, at last consent, but they. said they
were not capable ofjudging whether the seed was fit
for so-wing or not they had merely purchased, it for
pressing.. To remove t his difficulty, Inspectors were
sent over from Ireland, who examined the seed,' and
affixed a mark- or brand to such as they thought 'fit
for use ha Ireland.- The _sellers in this country
thought that they had then no more responsibility, but
sent the seed, so- selected and marked, over • to Ire-
land, to be sold I,V4hOut'any warranty on their parts.
Notwithstanding this, a great number of, actions had
'been brought, and many of the sellers would be ex-
•posed to immense loss, if not to actual rein. 4 -
• Mr. W. 'PoLE said • he would' only trouble- the
• House with, a few words. The Right Hon. Gen-
tleman oppoiite_ to him. seemed 10 think this was in-
tended-as an ex postfab7o law; but that was not the
case. The clause 1-ight possibly bear that con-
struction, but he could assure the House that
no such . intention. was entertained. He. did
, not agree with- the worthy Baronet behind him;
that this Rtli'vvas intended to afford relief to the
persons who had suffpred,, but to prevent, perjurieS
in future. It was thought that by making a war-
ranty necessary in every case, these frauds and per-
juries might be. prevented,' but certainly no idea was
ever entertained of making the Bill retrospe6live.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that if the, Bill
'was meant to have a retrospedive operation be
should have opposed it,
Mr. BABINGTON oppoSed it ; and, said, he, was
sorry.to hear_)here wa4 so much perjury in Ireland.
Mr. FOSTEit: spoke again in explanation, and said,
his whole. intention in proposing, the Bill was, to put
an end to the system of perjury, whichAtiras so eager-.
ly pursued-its that coi-111-y.
Sir JOHNl';;;PyrniT 11101/Cd; "That the Bill should
be commit t tea day -1-hree months,"
Strangers ,were ordered to withdraw ; but, on
counjing• tile 'Members, there were only thirty-one.
present, which not b,..ing syfficipnt to .form a douse,
they adjourned at half past One o'Clock.

. 'MAILS.
ARRIVZD.,-1 Dublin, iyVaterford. Due—i Cadiz, t Lis.

bon, i llublin, r Waterton!.

1' 1t ICI OF STOCKS
THIS DAY AT TWELVE O'CLOCK.
Consols - -70 Ai 11.1(ed.'Ann. - -69 U

T S UN.

'SOLEM.QUIS•DICERE F4LSUM AUDEAT ?

L D' 0 IV,

TUESDAY, MAY 8, 1810.

Letlers have been received from Holland .of the
3d inst. They are filled with ace.otmts of the ty-
rannical condu6l of the, French in enforcing BUoNA-
PARTE Decrees for the total extinaion of commerce.

The Exchange at Rotterdam has been converted in-
to a stable for French cavalry.

• We certainly were not 'absurd enough to suppose
that the Opposition Writers would be .disposed to
approve of any measure of the present Administra-
tion, whatever the merits of that measure might be;
but we did think, after all they have said-about their
good wishes'for the Spanish cause, after all the cen-
sures which they have thrown upon nUONAPARTR
for hiS perfidy to the Spanish. Royal F3mily, that
they would, in order to preserve the appearance of
consistency at least have refrained frOm 'censuring
an attempt ter liberate FERDINAND VII. Of the
policy of such a measure—of the effeEt which .his
presence must necessarily produce upon the contest
in Spain,' no reasonable man could have a doubt.,
If then the ohjeet was desirable, was it praEticable ?
Upon that point we have no other guide at present
but the examination of M.,DE KOLLI, and he States•
it to have been perfectly praclieable. He stales
that 'FERDINAND might have been many hours upon
his journey before he was missed. But it may be
'said that M. Ds KOLLI was too sanguine in his
expectations. Possibly he might, but•surely it is but
fair to suppose that he, who' had turned. all his•fa-
culties to the consideration of the subject, and who,
had risked his ,life upon his-success, was quite as
able to form a• judgment as those who merely
form an opinion from the garbled report of the
Moviteur. . When they
,talk, howeVer, of the
utter impossibiLty of the plan succeeding,
must .recal to their recolleCtion the ,escape of Sir
SIDNEY SMITH from the Temple; an escape, at-
tended with difficulties infinitely 'greater than those
'Of FERDINAND from Vallancay. It. appears- then,

upon the whole, that this object was most desirable,
if it could .bp attaincci,—that there was certainly a
considerable degree of risque in its accomplishment,'
but that there was a rationDl chance of success.-•
We're Minister, then, or were they not, justified in
making the at tempt ? We would willingly subinit
this question .to the determination of any rational
and. impartial man in• the Empire.

It must give the highest.satisfaetion to every friend
to the British Constitution, and that is eery wise
and good Man. in the United Kingdom, ,to find that

even those. who are in geneial vehement agaihst the
measures of GOvernment are open' and decisive in
expressing their opposition' to those principles and
designs which a certain unprincipled faction are evi.:
dently labouring to bring forward, though the result
would most probably be anarchy and ruin. The
Lords GREY and GRENVILLE yesterday, in the
House of Lords, took occasion, though tine subje&
-ingnediately•before them was an intended Motion for
inquiring into the State of the Nation, to deprecate
those wicked attempts which are daily made by the

Agents of a Faction who wish to mislead the Public,
-and to bring .Parliament into contempt. Both of these
noblemen, manifested ,a 'firm determination to sup-
i,ort the Privileges of Parliament, and, most empha-
tically declared, that it was impossible to foreseci ihe
"fatal consequences which would ensue if those Pri-
' vilegeA should ever be relinquished.. The same
course was adopted by Sir ARTIE/A PIGOT last night

in the I-louse of Commons. The Hon..Merfiber
was not less.reiolute iii reprobating' the artifice's of
the Faaion alluded to, and in representing, "in., the
most forcible
Privilegesterms, the 'vital importance of the
. .
Privilees whichit is the aim of that Vatiion to de-
.
stroy. We have reason' thgrefore to rejoice,.that the
faridins deniagogUes alluded to, have gone to such
extremities,, and by their attacks upon the funda-
mental -
principles of the Constitution, hLave induced
the leaders of the former, who have a great stake in
the country, a d who, howeVer they may be in-
fiuenced by political rivalry, have the essential
iriterests; of the: Constitution irr view, to come
forward,. at this ; important crisis to rally round
it. The opinions of such characters, solemn-
ly delivered in Parliament,' must have due
weight With all reflecting men, and must throw
into insignificance and contempt the efforts of

those who, from vanity, ambition, malevolence,
and the most desperate views, are endeavouring to
bring upon this country all the horrors that attended
the revolution in'France. This conduct on the part

of such distin ,'Ll'shed member:4 -)r society,. and (1:
public spirit which has been just evinced by the ino-t
respectable p.C-ssons in the City of London, to sup-
port .our good'old Constithtion agains- ail (Ito art:-
fices.and plots of its enemies, must inspire confidence
in the Empire at large. The pubEc spirit of theg-e ;t
body of loyatcitizens who hive .come- forward, in
opposition to the disgraceful violence and 1-1-li.F.cliiev-
bus arts of the Common Hall-politicians .andi,orat.ots,'
is indeed a subject of pecUliar- exultation, and we
must again express our hopes that so noble an ex-
ample of patriotism will be folloWed in every town
and county throughout. the British .Empire.

• The Right Hon. CHARLES YORKE this day took
his seat at the Board as First Lord of the Admiralty.
F. EDGECOMBE, Esq. is appointed his Private &ere-
..
tary.
Bread remains at last week's-prices.
'We have received Paris Paperi, to the Ist, and
Dutch to the,3d inst.
,Despondeney- continues to
prevail in Holland, as the severity of the French
agents equals their vigilance, in discovering and pro-,
seething, what is deemed ail impolitic trade. 'pie
other information contained in these Papers is nei-
ther important nor interesting.
We beg to subMit .to the consideration of the
violent opposers of the priVileges Of Parliament, ti,te
following resolutions of the House of Commons,
passed in- the good old times,
,the Jays of the'Revo-
lution, and of the Bill of Rights :-
"- That to assert that the HouSe of Cornmbns i;
not the only representation-of the Commons of Eng-
land tends to the subversion of the rights and privi-
leges of the House of Commons., and the furlanien-
i tal Constitution of the Government of this country.
" That to assert that the House of Com Mons
have no- power of commitment, but of their ow,O
Members; tends to the subversion of the Con'
stitntionof the House of Commons.
"That to print or publish any books or libels, re-
fleeting on the proceedings of the House of Com'
mons, or any Members thereA, for or relating to
...hit service therein, is a high violation of
.the tights
•and privileges of the House of Commons."

PORTSMOUTH, MAY 7...--Cagle in yesterday -the
.Calista armed ship, HASMELL, Master, from the
Downs, for Surinam.
Sailed the trill, of Hull, FALCONER, for Ito de
Janeiro. •

j' Passed by the Brutus, for the West Indies.
Dropt down to St. Helen's his Majesty's 01P
Rlicenix, with the outward-bound Indiamen, and
1- will sail, it is expeeted, early to-morrow morning•
it Went out of harbour the . Ant schooner; and

came in his Majesty's ship Osprey.
j Arrived yesterday his Majesty's ship Pordargus
from the Eastward ; also the Hopewell from the
Westward, for London.

ISailed ,yesterday his Majesty's ship Dapper on a
cruize; and the hope, WALKER, and Scmarilan,
KENNY, for. Sunderland.,