The Sun.
London, England, 1817-02-27 00:00:00

PETITION FROM LONDON.

The Sheriff of Loudon appeared at the' Bar,
.with the Petition of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen,
and Common Council, against the Suspension of
the. Ilktbeas Corpus Att. It was received, read,
and ordered to lie on the table.

Sir W. CURTIS did not rise to oppose the Peti-
tio n lying upon the table, but only to say in his
.place what he bad declared a few hours ego, when
it was agitated, that he totally dissented from la
the expre siotoand sentintems contained in it.
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Sir JASSES StlA.ty Was of opinion, that the three
measures ;Already introduced were called for by the
situation of the country. He was likewise of
()Pinion, that such meetings as had litely been
held were improper. He should listen to the ar.
gmnents on both sides with the utmost attention.;
but with respect .to that grate measure, the Sus-
pension of the Habeas Corpus Act, he must own,
that after giving all the attention in his power to
the opening speech in YhtiCLl:it was intimated, be

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Mr. W. SMiTti was of. the slime opinion. •
Mr. CentweN, aftersome preliminary remarks,
iaid, that the only times in the last century when.
in his opinion, a necessity existed for so severe a
measure as the SlispensiOn of the Habeas Corp is
Act, were the years 1715:and 1745. Tia) there
was tindoubtedly good giontid for the measure ;
but unless it could be proved that these tines hail
returned, he would say that nothing could be so
destructive to the country.
Sir JOHN NEWPOnT wished to know promptly
from the Noble Lord opposite, whether he really
meant to forward one of these Bills.? Ile would
recommend a Committee to inquire what powets
were already in existence.
Lord CASTIATIEAGn thought the House might
complain of this mode of anticipating the debate..
For himself he was not prepared at this time, when.,
the subject before the House was a petition, to go
at large by anticipation into the question of the
Bills. He would only say a word own strong mis •
conception of the Right Honourable Baronet. He
appeared to rest his whole argument on the Act of
.1798, with which he was not acquainted. [rise
Noble Lord then repeated the statements he hail
made on Et former evening, to skew how the Art
of 1798 invalidated that of 1795, 1796]. He was
sure the House must feel that oothiug could be so
little desirable as that if question of such magni-
tude as the Suspension of the Habeas Corpus Act
should_be entangled in any promiscuous.and acci-
dental debate.
Mr. P 1111.4.11,3 and Mr. Manama FITZGERALD
entered largely into the quesfiuu rtf the Habeas
Corpus Suspension Act ; butt as this important.
question came on to be fully debated in a proper
form, we do not think it necessary' to report the
anticipatory discussion.
Mr. Waterrasr.e.v was sorry the grand qiiestion
had been thus anticipated, as-it could lead to no
good. But the Honourable Member opposite
(Mr. Phillips) Lad 'given a descriptionof Man-
chester, and he felt extremely sore that that part
of the country 811008 have been mentioned•in,the
Committee. No man was unaware or titicou-
cerned at the general distrestq which was not pe-
culiar to Manchester, but affected every pare Of
the country. The county of Statiord„With whieh
lie was. connected, was in the same distress as
Manchester, and the gentry had done as nine's
for the relief of the people.as those of any odor
part. But lie would tell the Hon. Gentkmati.,
that the people of that quarter had not beet' lett
into the same excesses as those of Manchester.
.When those Gentlemen were so kind as to limit
front their seat of eloquence their perambulating
orators, at so much a day, into other counties,
where the people had no idea of disloYalty, it was
not to be wondered at if they lied made sortie 'al--
Jeration in the opinions of. their auditors. One
of these gentry was deputed • front Maochester tO
Newcastle-under-Lyme, and was to have 245. 64.
for his patriotic labours ! These orator., the-
friends of the Hon. Gentiernnn opposite,--(Loud
cries of Hear, hear !)—had drone, however, little
or nothing in Staffordshire, where the'people had
no other feeling than that of being grateful to
their benefactors; and the one who clime to New.
castle bad been literally hooted out of the town.
He hoped the Hon. Gentleman would contrive to
keep these persons qniet in his own county, and
not send them into others.

PONSONBY was surprised to bear the Hon.
Gentleman behind him so attacked, because the
Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Wtottesley) had
long co•operred with him on former ocetialinit.
He now called the seditious orators the blends of
the lion. Gentleman—(Bear, hear !)---43ut he,
(NIL. P.) recollected when the Hon. Gentleman
entertained a more Itvourahre opinion of his tion.
Friend, and this opinion remained till That lion.
Gentleman had reunited to the opposite side, and
pinned hintself to- thebacks of Ministers. he
wo.dd tell him, tharlis. Finn. Friend was as hi)•.
nourable a man as•litvwas ; Rye, or as any Of •IPs
proudest or his meanest connections. No Mail
could be elevated to any digni!y, hoWever high;
with a more honest heart. lie was sure the Hon.
Gentleman must have forgotten himself, and he
hoped he would apologize to his Hon. Friend.--
(Hear !)
‘VIIOTTESLNY explained. He hail not said
that the Honourable Gentleman was a friend to
the seditious orators. Stieli situ idea was quite
tint of the question. 'He was the last person -to
whom he.woubl have made such an assertion.

Mr. PHILLIPS, in reply, said that the honour.
able Goldman had aceosedi him of being sore that
the people of Manebeocr should have been allud-
ed to in the Report : hut he assured hint that lie
did not feel at all Wire about the matter, or tit auy
other part of the Report. His obsCrrationi t:4.1
been partieularly directed to his own neighbour-
hood, where he bad an opportunity of ascer;aiu-
ing the facts be hzd,tnentioned in consequence of
having founded a Committee for the relief of the
people._ •

111 r. BaouonAst contended Ant the people of
Manchester had been prorztli by the Nets stated
by his lion. Friend, to have behaved full as well
as those at Statioribbire.
Sir GILUELIT HEATliCerre was not satified with
the conduct of Ministers at this t inte.

The petition from London was then ordered
to lie on the table.

Mr. M. FITZGRBALD postponed his motion on
the subject of Tithe 3, sine die.

HABEAS CORPUS ACT SUSPENSION BILL

Lord CASTLEREAGII nioved the first reading of
the Bill sent down from the Lords.

Mr. BENNETT tViSkil to take the earliest op.
portunity of offering the most sfeeided reilitatice
to the Bill, which he held to be °tie that was