The Sun.
London, England, 1828-10-27 00:00:00

CATHOLIC ASSOCIATION.

(From the Dublin Morning Post of Friday.)
The A,sociation met yesterday, Counsellor
GUTHERIE in the Chair. Mr, Smyth acted as

Secretary.
Immediately before proceedings were commenced
Mr. O'Connell entered the room, and was received
with tremendous cheering.
Mr. LAWLESS had to submit to the meeting no-
tices of two propositions on which he meant to
ground motions :—The first, for a vote of thanks
from the Catholic Association to his Grace the
Duke of Leinster, and the enlightened Protestants
who had signed the declaration in favour of Catho-
lic freedom. Second—That in consequence of the
rumours coming from individuals of considerable
weight in the country, that a conditional and qua-
lified Bill of Emancipation was about to be sub-
mitted to Parliament by the Prime Minister, in the
beginning of the ensuing Session of Parliament, they
(the Catholic Association) felt it a duty they owed
to the people of Ireland—to the cause they had so
long advocated-to reiterate their resolution, that
no Bill of Emancipation which was not unqualified
and unconditional, could satisfy the mind of Ireland,
or establish the peace or harmony of what ccutsti.
tuted the strength of the British emipire.
Mr. O'COISTNELL said that Mr. Lawless should
well consider those motions before he brought them
before the Catholic Association. With respect to
the first, for a vote of thanks to the Duke of Lein-
ster and those who had signed the Protestant De.
claration, he (Mr. O'Connell) would object to any
such resolution, as he thought it was better that the
Association should by no means interfere with the
subject, but leave those Protestant gentlemen solely
to themselves. He did not, in fact, see that it was
proper to bring the name of the Duke of Leinster
before any public meeting, nor did he think that
this " flash in the pan" of signing the Protestant
Declaration, was any reason why a vote of thanks
should be given them by the Catholic Association.
With respect to the nest proposition, he should
have no objection to any resolution, however strong,
as to conditional Emancipation. He would now
read a letter, which he felt convinced would give
singular pleasure to the meeting; it was signed
" Ebrington" (son to Earl Fortescue, and M.P. for
Tavistock), addressed to Edward Dwyer, Esq., Se-
cretary to the Catholic Association. It was as
follows :--

SUMMERVILLF, OCT. 18, 1828.
Sir—To the contribution (of 200 herewith enclosed
towards the Catholic Rent, I have to add my request that
the Association will do me the honour of admitting me a
Member of their body.
In making this request, I hope I may be allowed to
state, without offence, that I disapproved the first forma-
tion of the Association.—that 1 have disapproved several
of its subsequent acts, and that my political opinions still
differ in many respects from those which have been ex-
pressed by some of its members.
But, in the present crisis of affairs, when societies are
forming, both in this country and in England, under pre-
tence of maintaining the British Constitution, but for the
avowed purpose of petpstuating the unhappy distraction of
the empire, by the exclusion of one-third of its subjects
from their just share in the benefits of that Constitution;
and when I see the British Government and the Irish people
alike menaced in so indirect terms by some of these self-
styled supporters of the House of Brunswick, with an ap-
peal to arms in defence of their exclusive system, I think
it time that all minor differences between the friends of re-
ligious liberty should be laid aside, and that we should
learn from our opponents the wisdom of uniting our efforts
to the utmost, in behalf of our common cause.
Believing, therefore, as I do, that while the interests
of that cause have been in the whole materially advanced
by the active zeal of the association, it is also to their pru-
dence and moderation that we are mainly indebted for the
peace and good order which now prevail throughout Ca-
tholic Ireland, notwithstanding the great excitement of the
public mind; I can no longer hesitate to offer my humble
tribute of gratitude to those whose unbounded influence
over the affections of their countrymen has enabled them
effectually to continue these two objects.
Let me add my wannest wish, that the same influence
may continue to be exerted, in the same spirit, and with
the same success, directing the energies of the Roman Ca-
tholic body to the employment of all legal and constitu-
tional means to the attainment of Catholic Emancipation—
unconnected as far as possible with any other political ques-
tion, until the period (I trust no distant one,) when this
justice of the legislature shall put a close to the functions
of the Association, by the accomplishment of the end for
which they were undertakeu.
I have the honour to be, &c.
EBRINGTON.
Edward Dwyer, Esq., Secretary of the

Catholic Aasociation.

Mr. O'CONNELL said, that to move the insertion
of this letter on the minutes, and request of the
Chairman to convey to the writer the grateful sen-
timents of the Catholics of Ireland towards his
Lordship, were but matters of coarse. A resolu-
tion to this effect having been passed, Mr. O'Con-
nell resumed :—He thought that their first step
should be to agitate. The Catholic Association had
obtained the most complete influence over the
people. He observed the Catholics rapidly increase
in political sense, knowledge, and virtue, and he
saw no cause for despair, but every reason to re-
joice in the opposition of the Brunswick Clubs.—
Mr. O'Connell proceeded to advert to the state of
Tipperary ; the troubles there, he considered, had
created too much timidity in that room. He would
now state to them the cause of the origin of the
Brunswick Clubs in England and Ireland. The
health of his Majesty is much worse than they were
allowed to hear. At his time of life, if it be true, as
he feared it was, that a fixed dropsy had set in, there
was real cause of apprehension for the consequences.
The next heir to the Throne was certainly a popu-
lar character; be also is said to be ill. Now his
successor is the Princess Victoria; she is as excel-
lently educated as can possibly be desired ; her illus-
trious mother is in every respect one of the most
estimable of her sex; the breath of calumny has
never even dared to attempt to tarnish the character
of the Duchess of Kent. The daughter of this ex-
cellent lady would be their legitimate Sovereign,
but there were those who would like to govern
without a Parliament—that faction who was tired
of having a Parliament, who were tired of climbing
up the ladder of preferment upon the mere strength
of their own merits. These know that the Catho-
lics have again become wealthy, and that if a change
were to be made in the dynasty, they would come
in for more than their proper share of power ; and
so, to bring about this, were they determined either
to alter the succession, or compel the Princess to
marry her cousin, Prince George of Cumberland.-
But to attempt to alter the succession in this coun-
try would be vain and idle indeed. Yes, if that
fight were to commence, they (the Catholics) would
be found ready for it; and if the Tipperary boys
should want arms, they would cover each other,
shoulder to shoulder, and an to man—!hey
would
form a phalanx that would be sufficient to drive the
Brunswiekers into the sea. The state of the people
was not critical, but it ought to be narrowly looked
to. Here the speaker proceeded to show, how depre-
cated in the scale of nations England had become,
since she had been placed under the Wellington Ad-
ministration. In speaking of the humiliating treat-
ment she had submitted to from miserable paltry Por-
tugal, he observed that, if in the administration of
about to
&c.confiscate
the
answer
Emtligelrisl would
be, i,
Chatham, an Englishman were to be told that the
Kingpro-
p" I will just take up a drop of the Thames'
water in my shoe, and throw it at him, and then see
whether he will attempt any of these things." they
pro-
perty , of
to Portugal was
Oporto,
should have an aggregate meetingof the Catholics of
Ireland on the 29th November, the day after Term.
They would have simultaneous meetings, and peti-
tions from all quarters; and he would take care that
the Order of Liberators should be extended to every
part of the kingdom. These should also have peti-
tions against the Vestry rind Sub-Letting Acts.—
Ent they were bound, of all things, to- look to the
representation of the country. In the representation
`consisted the strength of the people. He would

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.move, at the aggregate meeting, that noll3' iii should .i...,jr.
be allowed to go into Parliament withotitliving the.,`" ‘.... i 7!;:,
pledges. : .l'' *it, S
Mr. O'CONNELL also moved that it he ref.
...x,, ':°l'l ..
the Committee to prepare the form of an Addr:7M)-.
the people of Tipperary, to be reported on .at the
next Meeting—also that an Aggregate Meeting be
held in Dublin on the 29th of November. He gave
notice of a motion for that day week to require twO
individuals from each county in Ireland to accompany
the Member for Clare to Parliament. In giving
this notice he would mention that his intention was,
that even though Parliament should meet before
that period, he would not go there till February.
Ile had never said that he would go there before
February. That time would be necessary in order
to afford sufficient opportunity for completing the
necessary arrangements. He should also propose,
at the Aggregate Meeting, that the Irish Members
consider Irish affairs.
, one month previcus
btoe
He here took occasion to pass a warm eulogy es the
teahellesidttoinngtoofmpeeatrlaiatmDeunbt,litroi
patriotism always evinced by Lord Rosamore, and
to express his regret that any difference should have
arisen between him and Mr. La aless. He would
say to Mr. Lawless, that if Lord Rosamore were to
give him (Mr. O'Connell) a blow across the head
he would forgive it, so great was his veneration for
that Nobleman.
After some further observations on this subjects,-'
Mr. O'Connell intimated that be would propose a
motion, having for its object the effect of reconcilia-
tion between the parties.
Mr. O'CONNELL, seconded by Messrs. REDMOND
and RossoN, then pressed upon Mr. Lawless to con-
sent to the proposed measure of conciliation.
Mr. LAWLESS rose and said, that on all occasions
it had been his pride to be the true and respectful
servant of the Association. On the present occa-
sion he most cheerfully entered into its suggestion.—
(Cheers.)--He should leave the affair to Mr. O'Con-
nell, to take such measures as he should' think fit,..
and he promised that nothing should be found want=
ing on his part to heal the difference.—(Cheers.)
Mr.' O'CONNELL cheerfully undertook the office.
The amount of the /tent was then announced to
be 242/. I Is. 31d.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE,

NEWMARKET HOUGHTON 11IEETING.

NEWMARKET, SUNDAY NIGHT.
The racing season terminates with this meeting, which
commences to-morrow, and promises to support the cha-
racter of being the best week's races of the year.
The race's appointed for to-morrow, are, with one or-,
ception, all marches; the most interesting of them is that
for 200 soya. each between Mr. Deline Radcliffe's Fleur de
Lie (the King's), Bst. 311,. and Mr. Payne 'a Belzoni, Sst,
Ab.lll. The mare is favourably irr as to Weight, and is
the favourite, although there area few who thin,k that she
does not look so well as she did some time back ; so they
thought previous to her race last meeting, and under' this
impression laid it on pretty thick ; one gentleman was let
in to the tune of 400/. by trusting too much to her ap-
pearance, and two or three others-were astonished by the
style in which she carried off the Oatlands. The other
races are as follow :

111atela for 200 sots.—Mr. Molony's Rough Robin, Sst.
71b. agst. Mr. Beardsworth's L'Estelle, Sat. D.M.

Match for 200 sons.—Mr. Payne's Sbakspeare, 9st. agst
Lord Sefton's Bobadilla, 7st. 121 b. P.M.
Match for 200 sous.—Mr. Payne's Mufti agat Lord
Tavistock's Warlock, eat. 51b. each. D.M.
Match for 100 sovs.—Lord Exeter's g. by Fills da Puta—
Advance, Set. 91b. agst Lord Tavistock'l Rosetta, Est.
T. Y. C.

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Match for 100 sovs.—Duke of Portland's Carthusian,
Bet. 71b. apt Lord Exeter's Serenade, Set. 41h. T. Y. C.
Match for BO Rove. Ah.lll.—Mr. Wetherley's Tokay,
Sat. 1211. apt Col. Wilson's g. c. by Young Gohanna—
Spotless, 7st. 101 h.

Match-1000 PM.. A. F.

Duke of Rutland's Cadland receives 200 sous. compro-
mise from Mr. Thornhill's Merchant.

Handicap Plwe of 100/. D.I.
Duke of Richmond's The Alderman •
Mr. Delme Radcliffe's Fleur-de-Lis
Mr. Delme Radcliffe's Maria
Lord Tavistock's The Vicar
Mr. Rush's c. by Merlin—Rhoda
Mr. Irby's Toso
Lord G. H. Carendiah'a Rapid Rhone
Only one horse is named for the Subscription.

HUNTING INTELLIGENCE.
ATPOINTSIENTS FOR THIS WEEK.

The Brookside Harriers will continue to meet every
Monday, at Newmarket ; Wednesday, at the Kennel, Ilford,
and the alternate Wednesday, at Ashcombt ; and Friday,
at Telleacembe Tye ; at half-past ten. e'er
Lord Anson's Hounds, on Tuesday, at Gopsall ; Thurs-
day, at Nailatene Wiggs ; and Saturday, at Shetlington-
bridge ; at half-past ten.
The Lambton Fox-hounds, on Tuesday, at Cassop ;
Thursday, at Lanchester ; and Friday, at Frankland ; each
day at ten.
Mr. Wicksted's Fox-hounds, on Tuesday, at Broughton;
Thursday, at Woore; and Saturday, at Blackbrook ; et
half-past ten.
-, Sir Geo. Sitwell's Fox-hounds, on Tuesday, at Stoney
Houghton Bar ; and Friday, at Mosbro'..loor ; at ten.
The 7l4sworth Hounds, on Tuesday, at Womersley,
hall ; Thursday, at Tilts Common ; and Saturday, at Crof-
ton Village ; at ten.
The Worcestershire Hounds, on Tuesday, at Weymen's
Wood ; Friday, at Bredon Hill ; at tea.
Mr. Dansey's Hounds, on Tuesday, at Canon Froome
Lodge; Friday, at Oker's Hill; at ten.
Theillaeknwor Vale Hounds, on Tuesday, at tile Higher
Bradley Woad ; and Friday, at stock House.
The Cottesmore Hounds, on Tuesday, at Barrowden
Haye ; and Thursday, at Manthorpe Mill; at a -qaattec
before eleven.

The Surrey Harriers, on Wednesday and Saturday, at
the Kennel ; at ten.

N •
F
•IL—Mr. Nicoll'., Hounds, Wednesday, at Broomy
Lodge ; and Friday, at Pennerly Gate ;at half-past ten.
Sir John Cope's Hounds, on Wednesday, at Uphill ; at d
Friday at Englefield ;at half-past ten.
Sir H. Sutton's Hounds, on Wednesday, at Burton Ken-
nel, at one ; and Saturday, at Hungrarn Gorse, at eleven.
at Walton ;
The Marquis of Cleveland's Fox-hounds, on Wednesday,
day, at Newton-house ; Friday, at Pepper Hall ; and Sa-
turday, at Colbron ; at half-past ten.
'TTelriu;rsadtaeyi:Yaetn.Add Addington The Cheshire Hounds, on Wednesday, at Ifinderton-;
Thursday, at the Fox and Barrel; and Saturday, at Tabley,
at ten.
at liall•pa t
Haribledon Hounds, on Wednesdaya,,t ahtaifCo:parshtatu;np.ton
Down;
Lord
II Friday,
arewo oadt,
80
Hounds,wslebury Down;
o.
Ire d .
0,4 a y ,
and Friday, at Spaeey House; at ten.
Lori Yarborough' s Hounds, on Wednesday, at Kings.
forth Blouse ; Friday, at the Talbot Inn, Swinhop ; aF,4
SatTuhredaLarety,
The Brighton Hsrriers, on Weinesday, near the Race
fiFrothoLuinrad4s,eroC:
ton ;
The Warwickshire Hounds, on Thursday,ten.
at Ulion
Wood ; and Saturday, at Upton House.
and Coons
sa ;t i ,
radnady,at Friday,
cr 0
1,,,a, Harm
the
A s
bll ynki el .1 ;
The Cadbnry Harriers, on 'church ,at Milborn NT ke
The East Soseex Hound., ou ThY ael 8 T' •
gatnrslay, at 01,,b,„ so nr aY, at F'Yecunll 41 ;
eleven. .r urn Corinnon ;at a quarter befcr#

Mr. Alisheton Smitli a Hounds, on Friday, at %III;14
at eleven.

GRAND TROTTING MATCH.

A Trotting Match, which excited considerable interest,
horse, belonging to a sporting character in the Kent-toad,
took place on Thursday, on the Brighton road, between a roan
find a brown horse, the property of a gentleman at Lewis-
ham. The distance was fifty miles, for bOl. a-side, .and
to start from the 11th mile-stone beyond Croydon to the
36th mile-stone on the Ilixtc,d road, towards Brighton, and
back, making the fifty miles. At eight o'clock a.m. both
readlleged,
prevented his the horses, in their respective machines, were at the given
spot, attended by the inspires. At I.landcruss the driver
of the roan pulled up, to refresh .his nag. The brown.
horse was also pulled up, but neither of them could swallow
any thing. They. were both rubbed down. The• brotan
I 3 and kept it throughout.
The i
oppo-
nent from passing, by drawing up on the wrong side of
the road, four times, in the 39th mile. At Mertshain,,
within six miles and a half from home, the roan was dead
beat, and the brown horse pursued his course, evidently
horse started
driversta r ty ofd first,thetook n, the
ila
s
bon
fatigued, to the end of his journey, at the rate of about
seven miles an hour, finally performing the whole b 0 mile.,
without drawing bit, in the unpiecedented time of four
hours and some seconds less than 21 minutes, ainid*t the
cheers olhis friends.

SPIRIT OF THE LONDON JOURNALS.

(YRO3I THE TIRES.)

The scene at Penenden Heath on Friday, and the
immediate result of it, corresponded more with the
alarms of some of our contemporaries than with our
own anticipations. We thought, it appears, not se.
'verely enough of the extremity of violence to which the
Cumberland faction were capable of proceeding, and,
to say the truth, not enough of the heedless or
clumsy imbecility of those public men who call
themselves Whigs and Liberals, whenever there is
a great principle to be maintained by vigorous and
skilful action. We care not whom it may hit, or
how bard, but we tell the prominent persons of the
Whig party, that when a pinch comes, and an ar-
duous crisis is to be turned to account for the na-
tion, they arc seldom at their post : if there, instead
of activity, vigilance, and union, they exhibit nothing
but drowsiness, negligence, compromise, distrust, or
discoed. In office, they soon take care to forfeit it,
through some childish want of spirit and good sense:
out of office, they leave the game at the mercy of the
public enemy. As Ministers, they have secured no
respect from the Crown,—es an Opposition, little
confidence from the people. They must change their
measures if they would save their country ; and they
must begin from this moment, or all will be too late.
The Kent Meeting we long ago took for granted
would produce a strong sensation among the agricul-
tural counties, whichever way its proceedings might
terminate, or whatever class of resolutions might be
adopted. What could be done, was attempted by us,
to impress upon the friends of civil and religious
freedom the necessity of drawing together their
whole force, and of combining their operations, so
that one and all might understand what was to be
clone, that one and all might strenuously support
such propositions as should be previously approved
of. It so happened that these exhortations were of
very partial efficacy. A few respectable individuals
attended, but among them there was little concert :
by their colleagues and favourers there was no ar-
rangement of such a nature as to defeat and expose
the stage trick of the Cumberland faction, who—
partly by outrageous tumult, partly by adroit ma-
noeuvring—took from every man whose object was
an appeal to the reason or public virtue of the meet-
ing, the least chance of having his arguments ap-
preciated or of being distinctly heard. It was, on
the side of public justice, a careless and scattered
attendance, altogether too feeble to resist the disci-
tilined band of zealots, who had no prospect of suc-
cess but in elos'ng the ears of those who came to
listen, and stifling the voices of all who ven-
taxed to be advocates for truth. The cry of
" No Popery," then, is once more the watch-
word of a ruthless faction in this country. If
the consequences of exciting that guilty and inhu-
man clamour were to involve no man's welfare be-
yond that of the Orangemen themselves, we might
be satisfied to let the spell recoil upon those who
raised it; but there is an empire to be rent asunder,
and a persecuted nation to be steeped in blood.
These are the fruits which it requires no prophetic
spirit to presage will follow from a repetition in
other counties of the display of unreasoning violence
exhibited in the county of Kent. The effects of
the late disastrous meeting upon the hearts of thee
hope-worn Irish people will be melancholy indeed.
" No Popery" might have some excuse, if " Po-
pery" were the alternative presented to Great Bri-
tain ; but the incendiaries who mislead the credulity
of their dependents, know well that the friends of
Emancipation have numbered among them all the
most eminent Englishmen of the last generation and
of the present one, who have been at the same time
the most powerful guardians of the Constitution hi
Church and State; and if this reflection will not
weigh with the unfortunate bigots who suffer them-
selves to be deluded by " No Popery," we pray
that they may not be taught ere long to repent their
obduracy in sackcloth and in ashes.

(FROM THE 14ORNIN6 CHRONICLE.)

The Marquis of Camden observed, at the Meet-
ing on Penenden Heath, " Thank God, there is now
little.• party spirit in this county. The aversion to
this question formerly existing in high quarters is
now much assuaged. There are those about me
who can correct me ,1 I am wrong, but I am quite
sure that there is no foundation for supposing that
the most distinguished Person in the Realm has any
wish that his name should be brought forward as a
barrier to the success of this question. I know this
circumstance to be true, and therefore this can no
longer be considered a party question ; and I believe
that those on whom the greatest interests of the
country depend are anxious for its adoption. I wish
my Noble Friends to know that it is gaining ground
in every quarter." His Lordship is too upright and
candid a man to hazard opinions and assertions like
these on insufficieie (Founds. We take it for
grunted, on his respectanie authority, that the Mini-
stry are seriously bent on settling the Catholic
Question for good and all. If they have core to
snch a determination, they must be weak indeed if
they allow themselves to be turned from their pur-
pose by Lord Winchelsea, Mr. Gipps, Sir Edward
Knatchbull, and the Kentish boors, whom they pre-
vailed on to attend at Penenden Heath. We allow,
that if they were looking out for the pretext, such
an exhibition might be of service to them ; as a very
little management might produce equally discredit-
able assemblages in most of the agricultural districts.
But they know too well the value of such assembleges
to mistake their voice for that of the influential part
of the people of England, and they know, moreover.
that if any disaster were to happen in Ireland, the
supporters ',of Lord Winchelsea would then be of
little service to them. We wish the question were
fairly set at rest ; far it is a paltry way of viewing
it to suppose the Catholics only are interested in
concession. The man must be blind as a mole who
does not see the danger to which England will he
exposed till this source of irritation is removed.
We have received from Paris a copy of the work
to which our correspondent alluded some days ago,
and we must say that it is evidently the fruit of
much labour, and, we should suppose, considerable
military skill. The object of the writer is to show
the Irish how they could establish theiro‘ indepen-
dence,e without the aid of any foreign G • rnment,
and with what ease it could be maintained when
once established. It would be as well, we think,
that such a publication should not find its way
among them in a period of excitement. It breathes
from beginning to end a spirit of keen indignation
against the Government of England,
and displays
an intimate acquaintance with all the writers who
exhibit the weak points of our institutions. The folioti '-
ing extract from the commencement may serve to
show the spirit of the book :
" Look at the -map of Great Britain and Ireland—
observe in the former the greater distances from John
O'Groat's house to the Land's-end, and observe the length
of the boutheru base of the triangle, and then observe the
form of Ireland. The latter approaches nearer to the form
of an ellipse than any other regular ferns—and to an
ellipse, the conjugate axis of which is of considerable pro.
portion to the transverse axis (278 miles long—lss
broad). This form, with the exception of an absolute
circle, is the most compact to which any superfices can be
reduced. /Law the ease and rapidity with which any
moveable force can be drawn from
one given point to
any other given point, in the whole island—a capacity for
-
«I,,Felice, from its superficial form, which very few other
produce. A military torce far short
ce,
natural positions can
of Ireland could produce
,
and that which the population
and which the revenue of Ireland could Maintain, might
be so stationed, that on no one part of, the coast cotild an
attack be made, without the station of a native army be_
ing formed within one or two days' march of the point of
landing."
We takes the imputed author, Colonel Roche Por-
tnoy, to be n non; de guerre.
(raom THZ MO11211144.; HERALD. )
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TIIE KING'S HEALTII.—It was truly observed by
our Eton Correspondent the other day, that there
are few matters relating to the Court more studiously
kept from the knowledge of the public, than the oc-
casional indisposition of Royal perscnages. When
the Queen of Wirtemberg made her last visit to this
country, the Court Circular daily represented her to
be in the enjoyment of " excellent health and spi-
rits," ,:nd that her coming here was simply a visit

of affection to her Royal relatives; but, now that
her Majesty is no more, it turns out that instead of
being in excellent health she was extremely ill ; that
her visit to England was chiefly for the purpOse of
1 obtaining medical advice; and that, in fact, she ac-
tually underwent several severe surgical operations
during the short time she remained here. In her is-
star -e, therefore, the Court Circular did not merely
withhold the truth, but put forth an absolute false-
hood—or rather a string of falsehoods; for it re-
peated the fib daily. Much the same crooked sort
of policy is observed with respect to the King. So
long as his Majesty is riding ()tit and giving audience
to his Ministers the Court C'ircular informs us day
by day of the fact—meagrely enough, it is true, but
still it does inform us. But no sooner does his Ma-
jesty become indisposed, than the Court Circular
either disguises the fact—by representing it as " a
slight attack of the gout ;" or, when it can no longer
do this, it ceases all mention of his Majesty, as
though there was no such personage in existence. At
the same time the most mysterious secrecy is ObEen ed
by everybody connected with the Court; and the pub-
lic is left to guess at thetruth. Probably the courtiers
think the public ought not to know that Royalty is
subject to the ailments of mortal men ; or they may per-
haps entertain an opinion that the people have no
sympathy with their Sovereign under such visita-
tions. Courtiers have professed such opinions
before now; and, for their own sinister purposes,
they have prevailed upon Sovereigns to believe and•
act as though those opinions were founded in truth,
—as all history doth abundantly testify. But,
whatever may be the opinions or the advice of the
Courtiers of the present day, we all know that
Kings are not exempt from the common lot of hu-
manity; and we firmly believe that the great mass
of the people of these realms have a sympathy with
their Sovereign almost amounting to affection. At
all events, they have a deep interest in his well-
being ; and if information is withheld from them,
they will guess, and their fears will induce them to
guess the worst. In the mean time the newspapers
do their best-`o get at the truth, and the conflicting
statements they have published during the past
week only tend to prove how studiously the truth
has been withheld from them, or misrepresented on
purpose to bring their authority into disrepute.--
For our own part we have taken extraordinary pains
to ascertain the real state of the case, and we have
now no hesitation in stating the following is the
truth :—His Majesty has had no symptoms of dropsy
—but he has been afflicted with inflammation of the
chest, brought on by remaining out too long on
these cool autumnal evenings, in " the fishing
temple" on Virginia Water. His Majesty has been
in the habit of remaining there until nine, and some-
times until ten o'clock in the evening; and after-
wards driving to the Lodge in an open phaeton.—
The inflammatory cold thus brought on, confined
his Majesty to his chamber for some days, and su-
perinduced a very smart attack of gout, to which
malady his Majesty is always more or less subject.
As the inflammatory cold subsided, so also did the
gout, until it was confined to his right hand. In
this state he again ventured out to inspect same im-
provements going on at the Belvidere—a little plea-
sure-house overlooking Virginia 'Water, built by the
late Duke of Cumberland, who was so well known
in " the Forty-five." His Majesty's visit to this
place brought on a return of the inflammatory
symptoms, and again confined him within doors;
but on Saturday last he was so much better that he
would have visited the Castle had not his medical
attendants prevailed upon him to remain within
another day or two. It is true that his Majesty's
person has been considerably reduced by the indis-
position; but his medical attendants, we believe,
attach no consequence to that circumstance, and his
Majesty himself is rather pleased with it than other-
wise. It is also true that his Majesty seldom
ascends or descends the stairs at the Royal Lodge,
otherwise than in a chair, borne by servants ; but it
is said this is Hot adopted from any inability to
walk, but from a fear of over-exertion.

(FILO)! THE NEWS.)

THE GREAT MEETING ON PEN ENDEN HEATH, ON
FRIDAY.—We are much mistaken, notwithstanding
its finale, if the original concocters of this meeting,—
of the proceedings at which a very ample account
will be found in our present number,—do not, eventu-
ally, bitterly repent ever thinking of it. They will
soon find that they have conjured up a spirit, too
powerful for them to controul ; and will become in
consequence, to adopt the words of one of the songs
published on Cie occasion, "crazed and amazed at
their own uudertahing." In truth, these sinecurists,
pensioners, well-fed parsons, &c. &c., in volunteering .
to appear so prominent before the public, are acting
a very silly part. They had far better enjoy their
loaves and cheese-parings in silence and quiet, rather
than provoke investigation, by thrusting. them in
people's faces, thereby exciting that very inquiry, it
sho.dd ever be their study to avoid. But the fact
is, that a teeing of private interest is the impelling
principle to all the recent proceedings about Bruns-
wick Clubs, &c. Their promoters are not such
fools as not to be well aware that the Constitution
would. not be endangered by the allowing their fellow
subjects, the Catholics, to partake with them of its
blessings—but they are apprehensive that their si-
necures, their pensions, their tithes, their rotten bo-
roughs, their lay impropriations, and the rich plura-
lities possessed by the members of their families
would be eventually shared with the newcomers.—
(" Hine jaw lacryincv." ) And we confess we can
see no reason why they should not. If the nation
is to be taxed to support a parcel of lazy proud scions
of noble houses, it would make no difference if those
taxes were given to the Howards—the Talhots—
the Petres, and the Arundells, in fair division with
the Clintons—the Finchs—the Bexleys, and the
Kenyons. As The Kent Herald justly observes, to
call things by their right names, " No Popery,"
with the Ultras, " means, the inviolability of abuses,
the security of the Tithe System, the monopoly of
power by the Tory faction, the stifling of liberty, the
hazard of bloodshed, the danger of civil war and of the '
perpetrations of all hinds of horrors and atrocities ! .1”
Now we confess we can see nothing AO peculiarly
perfect in the discipline of our Church or in the
practice of its Chief Ministers (see our seventh page)
as to risk all these evils merely that certain well-fed
parsons and bloated sinecurists may be freed from
their fears, lest the Catholics should share with them
the spoils of the people. We cannot dismiss this
subject without remarking on the impolicy of the
Government, thus suffering the ties of friendship and
relationship to be torn asunder, and the nation di-
vided into numerous and hostile parties, on a con-
troversial topic, which one word would settle down
into undistu.Thcd tranquillity.' It cannot be to the
interest of any Monarch that his people should be
divided, especially on polemical points, which have
in ail ages engendered the most rancorous animosity.
one would have thought that the distracted and
convulsed state of Ireland, would have served as a
warning,to Ministers to have prevented the epidemy
from extending to this country.

(PROM THE SUNDAY nEam.n.)
The Kent Meeting, to,
,theatt e
attention
report
oarlti
parties has been arrested during the last week, has
taßen place, and an amplc, h abridged,
of it will be found in another part of our paper. The
speech of Mr. Shed is given word for word as he
spoke it ; and its argument and eloquence have,
since it appeared, been the theme of conversation
and admiration in every quarter, and among all classes.
The question of Catholic Emancipation, it will be
seen, has been floored, so far as the Kent fleeting
is concerned ; but we do not see that i;s decision is
likely to produce any extraordinary influence on the
decisions of other counties. The Petition, which
Was moved to be presented, %vas evidently a moderate
one ; and being moderate, disarmed, in some measure
the hostility of those who do not consider Catholic
Emancipation as absolutely necessary to the pacifica-
tion of Ireland ; but even with ail this advantage on
the side of the Brunswickers, the resolution was only
carried by a small majority, and we have beard many
assert that if the numbers on each side had been ac-
curately reckoned, those who advocated Emancipa-
t ion would have gained the victory. At all events,

the glory on the part of the Brunswickers was not
of such a decided cast ac to encourage similar under-
takings elsewhere ; and even if they are Made, there
is reason to believe that the experience which the
Liberals have now got, will teach thetti the necessity
both of making better arrangements, and of mus.
tering in greater force. In the former respect the
Brunswickers had evidently a most decided ad vantage
on Friday. What the effect of the carrying of the
R'esoluticirt on Friday will have on the people of
Ireland remains to be seen. We trust that they
have sufficient good sense, not to consider the
resolution of the Kent Meeting as synonimous with
the resolution of the Imperial Parliament of Great
Britain--the only legislative authority; and that
taking prudence for their guide, they will wait with
patience the result of its deliberations. The Go-
rernment has evidently Fome measure in store for
their relief ; and any manifestation of violence on
their part would only tend to weaken its exertions
in their behalf. Of the nature of that measure we
know nothing certain ; for the Government is still
as mysterious on the subject as it has hitherto been
on every other; but the following extract from an
Irish paper seems to he founded on authority, and
confirmed by the conduct of several Members of the
Administration. " It is generally understood, and we
suspect truly, that his Majesty's Cabinet have in em-
bryo, for the sanction of Parliament next year, a Bill
to ameliorate the present political circumstances of Ire-
land. Its object is sufficiently intelligible; the basis
and conditions we understand to be comprised in
the annexed brief summary :—The Catholic Asso-
ciation, as an indispensable preliminary, to be utterly
abolished, and penalties to prevent its revival. Any
Magistrate who attends a meeting. under that guise
to be struck out of the commission, and any News-
paper publishing their proceedings to be deprived of
its license. The complete repeal of the 40s. free-
hold franchise, and the qualifications of voters limit-
ed to the nzininzum of '2Ol. The election of Bishops
to be made without reference to the Pope, but sanc-
tioned by the King; the appointment of Parish
Priests to rest equally in the Bishop of the diocese
and the parishioners—a Governor of the county to
recommend candidates, whe are also to meet the ap-
proval of the Lord Lieutenant. Finally, the Roman
Catholic Clergy and higher and inferior class, :1-e to
derive their emoluments as such exclusively from the
revenues of the State. We offer the above outline
generally, merely with this commentary—that Go-
vernment are determined to legislate for the neces-
sities of the subject, without consulting the violent
or intemperate of any party."—( From the Limerick
Chronicle.)
FROM. THE JOHN BULL )

Whatever our opinion upon popular meetings in
general may be, we cannot conceal our gratification
at the decided result of the assembly of Freeholders
on Penenden Heath—even the radical writers con-
fess that their partisans and paymasters are sad, sore,
and sorry at the total failure of all their puny efforts
at disturbance, and at the unqualified and triumphant
manner in which the voice of the opulent and in-
fluential county of Kent has been raised against any
farther concessions to the Papists. Messrs. Cob-
bett, Hunt, and Shiel, specially freeholders on this
particular occasion, made speeches, which were re-
ceived with yells and hootings ; so decidedly adverse
was the meeting to hearing the professional spouters.
Lord Radnor, better known as the Lord Folkestone
who picked strawberries until dark, and tumbled
into a ditch getting home from Westbourn-place,
eulogized Mr. Cobbett; and that exemplary, ho-
nourable, right honourable nobleman, Lord Teynham,
advocated the claims of the Roman Catholics. The
Marquess of Camden too, spoke of conciliation and
the necessity of tranquillizing, Ireland by admitting
Papists to power, his Lordship having been Lord
Lieutenant of that kingdom during the rebellious
times of the United Irishmen, and threatened by the
patriot Fox with something like an impeachment for
the tyranny and oppression of the measures of his
government. Theory and practice are widely dif-
ferent things, and the Lord Lieutenant on the Vice-
Regal Throne of Ireland found it quite necessary to
adopt measures which the Teller of the Exchequer
speechifying in a waggon at Penenden Heath found
it excessively agreeable to censure and disapprove of.
The populace were not remarkably civil to Lord
Teynham, nor over courteous to Cobbett, nor mo-
derately decent towards Hunt; and as for Mr. Shiel,
if he could write tragedy half as well as he acted
farce, or produce tears in a theatre proportionate to
the shrieks of laughter he excited on the Heath, he
would bid fair to rival Shakspeare himself. Nothing
could be more ludicrous than his performance—what
he said, can only be gathered from a very long re-
port of a speech, written, we presume, by the orator
himself, which appears in some of the low London
Papers. When the proceedings terminated, God
save the King was played by the band which was in
attendance, and chaunted by the voices of thousands;
and thus the' day closed upon a meeting of the
highest importance, conducted in the most manly and
spirited manner, and terminated with the most satis-
factory possible result.

(FROM THE ATLAS.)

The great Kent Meeting of Friday has excited an
extraordinary sensation in the public mind. We
confess we do not invest it with that importance
which many of our contemporaries have attached to
it. There is no peculiarity in the constitution of the
" Men of Kent" that raises their opinions, one way
or the other, above the sound judgment of the rest
of England ; and it is of minor consequence in the
history of the Catholic question, whether a tumid-
tuous majority was obtained in favour of toleration
or of Brunswick clubs. The only distinction that
can be claimed for Kent is on the score of prece-
dency. Kent is the first county that has declared
its sentiments, and those sentiments were gathered
at an assemblage where nine-tenths of the people
present did not hear one word of the petition read
by Mr. Gipps, and voted by the instinct of associa-
tion rather than upon principle. The same argu-
ment would apply if the decision had been upon the
other side—consequently the result is not of any
great value as an expression of public opinion. We
have avoided interpolating our report with the in-
cessant conflict of cheers and hisses that interrupted
the progress of the speakers on both sides; we have
rather endeavoured to give a candid and intelligible
transcript of the speeches, collated carefully from all
the public journals, and perfectly unbiassed by party
prejudice. The most interesting incident of the day
was the appearance of Dr. Doyle and Mr. Sheil :
but by far the most important passage in the entire
proceedings was an expression which fell from the
Marquis of Camden, who apart from all considera-
tion of his political opinions, has practically proved
the extent of his public virtue by the voluntary sa-
crifice of a large sinectire which he held under the
Crown. It will be remembered, that previously to
the Union the Marquis of Camden was Lord Lieu-
tenant of Ireland; and it appears from his speech
that his Lordship understood from the Minister of
the day, Mr. Pitt, either in direct terms, or indirect
terms that justified the inference, that Catholic
Emancipation was pledged to the Irish nation as the
condition of the surrender of her independent Par-
liament.* If this be the case, argument is at end
—England cannot defend a broken promise even by
the logic of an apprehensive Cabinet.
* This fact appears more distinctly in the speech of Lord
Teynham.

The Vice-Regal festivities commenced at the
PlicsoixPsrk on Monday. His Excellency the Lord Lieu-
tenant gave u splendid dinner entertainment to a select
party ; the tables were filled with the most costly viands and
wines of the richest quality. Among the distinguished
persons present, in audition to his Excellency's numerous
family, were the following:—The Loan CHANCELLOR, the
Duke of LEINsTER, the Earl and Countess of EurtoL, Lord
and Lady F. L. Gowan, Sir J. 131 No, Commander of the
Forces ; Lord FORBES, Lard G. HILL, A.D.C. in wait-
ing; the Attorney-General, the Solicitor-General, Col.
GRANT (Guards), Colonel JODDRELL (Guards) ; Colonels
GoesKrr, THORNIIILL, and CONI4OLLY; Messrs. GasvILLE,
LirrtrioN, and 0. GORE. His Excellency is in the en-
joyment of perfect health.—Dtcblix Freeman's Journal,

POLICE INTELLIGENCE.

BOW-STREET.

ErdittEgLEMENTi—On Saturday Charles Todd,
was charged with embezzling tarintis sums of money,
received by hith on account of his erriplciyers, Met
Pickford and Co:, the carriers and wharfingers in the
City-road.
Mr. Zachary Langton, one of the above firm,
stated that the prisoner had been several years in
their employ as a soliciting clerk, and received a es,
lary of '2OO/. per annum. It was his duty daily to
enter an account of all monies he received in the
cash-book, and to pay the amount over to the cashier
the same evening. On the 20th of August he re-
ceived the sum of 101. 16s. 6d. from a Mr. Croker,
which he Isad not entered in the cash-book, or in any
way accounted for it.
Mr. Croker, a warehouseman, in Watling-street,
stated, that on the 20th August he paid the prisoner
the above sum. He gave him a 30/. note, and re-
ceived the difference from him.

Mr. Dawhurst, the prosecutor's cashier, proved
that the prisoner had never accounted to him for the
money.
Mr. Langton said he had several other similar
charges to make.
The prisoner was remanded for a week, to give
the prosecutors time to make further inquiries.