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London, England, 1845-08-01 00:00:00

STATE OF GREECE,

Lord BEAUMONT presented a petition against the
28th clause of the Lunacy Bill. The Noble Lord then
adverted to the state of brigandage on • tl.e frcntiers of
Greece, to which he had some time ago called the atten-
tion of the House, and to which he now wi-lied to direct
the attention of the Foreign-office. The interests •of
France and Englaod were identical as regarded Greece,
and it was incumbent that a good understanding r-hould
exist between them ; but it could not be denied that
French interests, partictearly in nwirtri:,2 Iry ttrp,
were now predominant in Greeee.—(lbar, heai.)
The question that he wished to put was, if 1::c
Foreign office were informed of the state of Cie,
frontier between Greece and Turkey, and, if -,,,
whether they had taken any measures on the
and also whether they had sent out instrivitions to ty;•,-.•
Edmund Lyons, to have General Valence removed iron:
the frontier.

The Earl of ABERDEEN would not deny but tnc
peculiar state of Greece might justify the Noble Lord in
Lringing the question before their Lordships, which,
under other circumstances, he would not have b:-en
warranted in doing. He did not mean to say that
Engl.md had not a right to interfere in the aflitirs cif
Greece, for she had borrowed a sum of this country, the
interest of which had not been paid, and England.was
consequently, by the treaty, justified in interfering and
having. the revenue so adjuAed that her own, claims
might be-satisfied. The Greek Government would do
well to remember that this was not a vain formality, but
a real right, which could be exercied whenever this
country thought proper. However, they relied upon the
faith of the Greek Government to keep faith Kith this
country, and act in a fair and honest in,:nner. Ile would
not attempt to conceal the pain he felt at tile present un-
fortunate state of Greece. Outrag(s had h• en committed
there, murders and robberies, and violence of - almost
every kind—and, in short, the state of Greece was any-
thing but tranquil and orderly ; at- the same time he felt
bound to say that, as a Minister of another State, he
had no right to express an opinion as to the Govern-
ment of Greece, nor as to the causes which led to • the
present unfortunate results. He had given such advice
to M.Coletti as he thought prudk:nt and useful, and hoped
it would have due weight in the councils of Greece.
With regard to the excesses on the frontiers, ho
felt bound to say that they had been grossly exaggerated.
The population on the frontiers were but imperfectly
civilized, and if the Cretans of old were proverbial for
lying, the Greeks of the prest nt day were proverbial for
robbing. He did not deny that outrages had taken
place OR the Turkish and Grecian frontier, but he must,
say that these outrages bad, both in nature and extent
been grossly exaggerated, it was likewise utterly untrue
that the Greek Government had encouraged these pro-
ceedings—the reverse was the fact. The supposition that
Greece would go to war with Turkey was most absurd ;
hOw could a bankrupt State without any military force
do so? And even if Turkey were not able to cope with
Greece, was there not the explicit declaration of the
-three great Powers, Russia, England, and France to pre-
vent any such contingency. If Colletti had fur a moment
imagined such a thing, he should be put into Bedlam. if
there was such a place as Bedlam in Gr.& ece.
The Noble Lord was under a misunderstanding,
as regarded Valence. He was not a commander as sup-
posed of any considerable force, but only the leader ,of
l 8 undisciplined men. There was therefore nt,t the
slightest ground for uneasiness on the part of the il'Ort..
There was no truth in the ins,nuation that English
interests were on the decline in Grevee►. English inte-
rests there were as strong as ever and it was only rea-
sonable to think they should be so, as ten Englishmen
visited Greece fur one of any other country. its long a 3
English merchants were honest in their dealings,
wealthy and enterprising, to long would they comman:
respect and Collttti, if inclined could not undemir,-;
such influence. There certainly were English, Fr.tecit,
and Russian parties in Greece; the m's'imunr• us that
there was no Greek party there ; that was what was
desirable ; and he hoped one would, before long, take up
a position in Greece. —(Cheers.)
The subject then dropped.
LONDON COAL TRADE BILL.

Lord DALEIOUtiIE moved tile secont! reading c
Coal Trade of London Bill.

The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said that any
observations he might make were not from any
hostility to the Bill, but he wished to show what th
Noble Earl had omitted in framing it. The tax, 11(3
admitted, had been originally improperly imposed, *DI
it was not till 1840 that the Government of the
day considered it advisable to direct that th
tax should be placed under the surveillance
of Commissioners appointed sih:eially for the purpose.
In that year, 1840, the revenue derived front this tax
amounted to nu less than 125,0001., showing an importa-
tion of 2,500,000 tons of coals. In 1841 the amount had
increased by 400,00 t) tons, yielding an a,lditional revenue
of 20,0001. ; in 1842 it had increased 200,000 tons,
giving an additional revenue of 10,0001. ; and in
1843 it was further increased 100,000 tons, or an addi-
tional revenue of 5,0001. In 1844 in consequence of the
str;ke in the collieries, it was true that th importation
had fallen off to such an amount as to show a decrease
of 3,5001. For the half-year end ng last June an in-
crease again appeared of 30,000 tons, or 6.000/. addi-
tional revenue, and thus an actual revenue, of 165,0001.
had been received by taxing this absolute necessary of
life. While this injustice continued, any measure
purporting to improve the position of the trade
would be delusive and unsuccessful, and falling
as the tax did upon the poor and the con-
sumer, who virtually were the parties importing the
commodity, it was a gross hardship upon the labouring
classes, who stood most in need of the article thus
denied them, and he implored the Government to IN lill•
draw it.

The Marquis of WESTMINSTER differed from the
Noble Marquis in his anticipations of the inutility of
the measure. He regarded it as a most important
means of pi otecting both the trade and the consumer.
The Earl of DALHOUSIE said the Noble Marquis
who had just sat down had gone over a much lsrger
extent of ground than was necessary in considering the
present measure. The question before their Lordships
was, whether they would, as heretofore, levy the rate
of a penny p-r ton to be applied to a corn exchange, or
that it should be applied to purposes of improving parts
of the town where great physical misery and social evil
prevailed. The simple issue before their Lordships was.
whether or not a penny per ton should be applied to
work out the great and salutary benefits to which Ire
referred.

After s few words from the Marquis of LONDON-
DERRY, the Bill was r.ad a scs-nrl ion:.
LUNATIC BILL.

Thi Bill, with the amenlmental, was rcltd a third eerie
and passed.
BONDED CORN BILL. •
This Bill was also real a third time and pt.,55,...d.
SELLING AND LEASING RAILWAYS.

This Bill was likewise read a third time and passed.
CONSOLIDATION OF CUSTOMS BILL.
The Earl of DALHOUSIE moved the second readiag
of this group of Bills, wid:.ll he characterised as Dils
that were not likely to elicit any discussion.
After a few words from Lori MONTEAGLE, the
Bills were severally read a second time, and ordered to
be committed to-morrow.
REAL PROPERTY BILL.-
This Bill was rend a third time, and passed.
FISHERIES IN DIELAND BE,L. •
This Bill a•as read a thir.l time, and passed ; •
the Militia jra Bill, the AsAistant Barristers
Bill, and the Masters and Workmen's Bill.
Several other Bills were advanced a stage, mut lag
House adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, .Tula 31.
BRAZIL SLAVE-TRADE BILL.
On the order the day fur bringing up the report on
thisßill,being read,

Mr. MILNEU GIBSON sad he wished to mtke
a few remarks on this Bill. He said ho 'had
particularly ex mined the provisions of the 8111,
and was unable to view it in any favourable light
The treaty amounted to this, that it was a declaration
of the intention of the Executive Government, and they
could not hold that the subjects of that country
were to be dealt with by a mere declaration of
the Executive Governm,nt. They could not hold that
any Power could bring the subjects into 61
criminal tribunals, and indict punishments short of the
laws under which they lived. The Governinent of Brazil
had passed no such law as that they should be punished
for carrying on the slave trade, anti the Govern:lli pct of
this country had official kno.sl, dge that such law
did not exist. The Eng'ish Government could not
possess the power of punishing them when th,• lan s of
their own country could not punish them. If there
were such a law in their own country, it then remr.ined
a question
whether they could punish them in this
country for a breali of their own law. He tield-Ab.A to
be most unquestionab!e, and was at a loss to understand
the explanation which her Majesty's Attorney-General
gave to them when the subject was before the House, on
a former evening. This measure appeared 'to him

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