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London, England, 1828-08-19 00:00:00

have laid prostrate the pomp and power of wealth,
they have contended against the influence of autho-
rity, and the decrees of the Legislature, and they
have enjoyed an easy triumph over both. At present
there is an union of the Clergy, the laity, and the
people. The Clergy and the laity are the contrivers,
but the people are the tools by which this extraor-
dinary power has been gained; but soon they will
find their own force, and some audaciouS Democrat
will start up, who will spurn all restraints, civil, po-
litical, and spiritual, and who will consign the Whole
power of Ireland to an absolute and senseless' mob.
Now, Gentlemen, with such a state of. things staring
us in the face, (and I do hot think that I have Over-
charged the picture,) there comes the last question,
whist is to be done ? The country confessedly con-
tains great advantage—it has made a wonderful
progress notwithstanding all these drawbacks—it
has confessedly the elements of wealth and prospe-
rity within itself, but all is checked and counterba-
lanced by these unhappy discussions, and the inva-
riable conclusion of every speculation on the state of
Ireland is, what is to be done ? Can we go back
to the penal laws ? God forbid that such an expe-
riment should be made---it is revolting to common
sense—it is revolting to the dignity of man. Can
we persevere in our present system ? The state-
ment which I have made, and the firm impression
made upon my mind by an anxious attention to pass-
ing events, is, that we cannot remain in our present
situation; something must be done; there is but
one alternative, either to crush the Catholic Associ-
ation—(cheers for several minutes)—there is but
one alternative, either to crush the Catholic Associ-
ation, or to look at the question with an intention
to settle it. Let us exercise all our ingenuity—let
us argue with all our subtlety—there is no other
alternative—and with such a conviction upon my
mind I feel myself called upon to exhort my coun-
trymen—men whom I have the honour of represent-
ing-, to aLstain from irritating harangues, to pause,
and to weigh well the dangers. of the country—to
dismiss all personal bitterness from the contempla-
tion of a whole nation's welfare, and to devise some
means, with satisfaction to all parties, for restoring
the predominance of established authority, and
giving security to the recognized, the legal, the con-
stitutional institutions of society. I speak here as a
Member of Parliament, as a Member of the Govern-
ment, and as a citizen of the world. Is it possible
that I can look with apathy upon the degraded state
of my Catholic countrymen ?—(Loud hisses.)—l
cannot express too strongly the contempt I feel for
the persons who thus attempt to put me down. If
the Representation of the County depended upon
the votes of those who interrupt me, I would not
condescend to ask them, though their suffrages
would secure my return. I must know, mixing as
I do in the world, and holding the high situation
I do, how the interests of Great Britain are wrap-
ped up in the safety of Ireland. There is but one
topic more, before I conclude an address already too
long. •A threat has been held out that the North of
Ireland, and this county in particular, is to be visit-
ed by some itinerant demagogues, to stir up the
elements o f discord. Let them undertake this
task at their own peril. There never was a time
when the Protestant proprietory were more de-
termined to rise as one man to resist such
an invasion. The attempt will be hopeless—
utterly hopeless; but let them pause well on
the consequences. They twill meet here a sturdy,
a bold, a determined, and, if driven to retalia-
tion, a fierce yeomanry—they will be answerable to
God and man for the floods of blOod that will flow
from such an attempt; no power can controul it,
but upon them be the responsibility. Let their de-
luded victims also reflect upon the fate which will
attend them. If once the--kindly tie which binds
them to the landlord be broken, the result will be
luit a quiet submission of the landlords, but a trans-
fer of this lands to Protestant tenants; thousands
are to be found in this county who want vicli lands,
and the force of numbers will no longer protect
them, as it has hitherto done their deluded brethren
in the South. I speak these words in kindness and
in advice to them. With respect to myself I shall
be found at my post, and ready to make every sacri-
fice in defence of the rights of my country, the cha-
iracter of its gentry, and the support of the Consti-
tution. The Honourable Gentleman then resumed

his seat.
The Rev. Mr. GnAlLot rose to put a few .qnes.
sions to Mr. Dawson, but he was interrupted by
The CHAIRMAN, who said he would not permit
any person to interrupt the regular course of the
proceedings. I will, said Sir George, give you a
toast, which I anticipate will call upon his legs a
gentleman who will, I ani sure, reply to the speech
which you have just heard from my Hon. Friend,
the Member for the county. I will give you-- •
" The Yeomanry of Ireland, and I will couple
with the toast, health and prosperity to John
Schoales."
This toast having been drank with loud cheers,
Mr. SCHOALES rose and said—l should not say
one word if something were not expected of me in
consequence of the call you, Sir, made upon me, to
offer s4imething in reply to the arguments, for I am
bound to call them such, put forward by a Member
of Parliament and a citizen of the world.—( Loud
cheers.)—He has told you plainly and broadly
that the Catholic Association is at this moment the
governing power of the country. Will the Hon.
Gentleman permit me to ask him, why is it that it
is the governing power of the country ?—(Loud
cheers.)---Have we had a regular government in the
country for these five years back—(loud cheering)
--- while this terrible Association has been rising
from bad to worse, until it has succeeded in terrify-
ing the members of the subordinate, or in other
words, the legal Government of the country.--
(Great cheering.)--During the last three years the
laws were stronger than they are at present, but
even now they are sufficiently strong to put down
this dreadful phenomenon. I will now come, Sir,
to the first branch of the Hon. Gentleman's dilemma,
and I say, crush the Association.--(Loud cheers.)--
That is my answer, although the gentleman is a
citizen of the world.--(Cheers.)--I do not profess
to he as well acquainted with the world as the Hon.
Gentleman, though 1 have lived in it much longer
than lie has ; but I do profess to know as much of
the state of this country and its laws as lie can pos-
sibly do; and I fearlessly assert that the Govern-
ment need only use the laws as they are, and they
have sufficient power to put down this much-
dreaded Association, which, although it has not
frightened the isle from its propriety, has certainly
frightened the wits out of the Hon. Member, citi-
,zen of the world though he be.—(Chec:s.)—The
other branch of the dilemma is to consider how the
question is to be settled. My answer to that is, the
feeling of the popular mind of Ulster is, that the
claims of the Roman Catholics ought not to be
k•onceded.—(Loud cheers, which lasted for several
minutes.)
" The Protestant Corporation of Dublin, and their
tried and valued Representative, George Moore."
In announcing this toast, the Chairtnan read a
letter from Mr. Moore, stating that he IVas prevented
from attending the meeting in consequence of being"
engaged to meet his constituents on the' same day.
The toast having been drank with loud cheers,
Alderman JOHN C. BERESFORD roe and spoke as
lb!Qws feel great pleasure in stating, that the
sentiments of the Corporation of Dublin are con
genial with those felt by the 'Prentice boys of Derry.
.—(Cheers.)—lt is out of my nature to hurt the
feelings of any individual. In my mind, if the Roman
Catholics were worthy to be trusted they should
enjoy everything; but I say they are not worthy to
be trusted, anti therefore I exclude them.--.(Cheers.)
I deplore as much as any man scenes of anarchy and
blood, but the sooner the matter is settled the better.
It might have been settled some time since with the
shedding of a little blood—now I fear the effusion of
torrents will be necessary to restore tranquillity to
the conntry. If I ask those around me whether they
wilt fight the monster or fly from it, I arouse an echo
which responds the well-known cry of " No surren-
der !"—(Loud cheers.) If I ask the Corporation
of Dublin will they fight or fly, they will tell me

that they have made too many caerifices in the cause
of loyalty already to desert the Constitution at its
utmost need, and they toolvill exclaim " No sur-
render !" Sir, you have been told' that this country
is now under the government of a poWer not recog-
nised by the law, bUtzivhose -fault isleijSir, if this
monster has been permitted to attain strength, and
power, and vigour ? Sir, I say the Government of
the country is to blame. I was wrong—lreland had
no Government. ,We have witnessed \within a short
period six or seven changes in the Administration
in England. In all these changes settled principles
were laid down for the maintenance of our foreign
relation—for the government of England, Scotland
and Wales; but no matter whether Tory or Whig
came into power, it was a settled point that Ireland
should be left out of consideration. I say, all Ire-
land was betrayed by excluding it from the counsels
of the King's Ministers.—(Loud and continued
cheers.) That, Sir, is the cause why this monster,
so ably described by the Member for the County,
but upon which it appears he has so lately opened
his eyes, has been permitted to arrive at its present
maturity.—(Cheers.)
The next toast was—
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" The health of Mr. Barre Beresford, and the
• Protestant electors of the county of Londonderry:'
—(Loud cheers.)
• Mr. BARRE BERFSFORD rose to return thanks.
I say, gentlemen, that the Irish Government has
truckled to the Catholic Association.--(Loud
cheers.)--go far is the tax now levied upon the
people from being a voluntary contribution as de-
scribed by my Honourable Friend (Mr. Dawson)
that it is extorted from them by force; and I have
it from the mouths of the- people themselves, that
that they have been compelled to pay the rent,
whilst the bludgeons of three or four ruffians were
flourishing over their heads. Many of my own
tenantry have been ordered out of the Chapel for not
paying it; and a few days since,-a poor woman in
this neighbourhood was refused the rights of her
Church by a Priest, for a crime which I was not
aware merited such severe chastisement. I asked,
upon being informed of the circumstance, is the
woman a thief or a murderer and the reply was,
that she was refused the rights of her Church be-
cause she allowed her children to be sent to a school
where the Bible was read. What is wanted in this
country is a repetition of such exhibitions as we have
witnessed this day.--(Loud cheers.)—The Govern-
ment has deserted us, and if any Protestant but open
his lips by way of remonstrance, he is set down as
wild enthusiast.--(Cheers.)
After several other toasts were drank, the Meet-
ing separated, it being then two o'clock in the
morning.

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