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went forward, and taking up a handspike, assisted the quarter-
master. The prisoner Serva then came aft, and called to some men
who were in a boat at the stern to come on board, but only one did
so. Serve then remained aft, and :called out to the prisoners,
" Kill them ! kill them ! heave them into the water!" I saw
one of the English sailors receive a cut from one of the pri-
soners; he fell and was thrown overboard. He did not fall
into the water, but seized hold of the shrouds, and then the
prisoner Joaquim cut him over his head and arms and cut off'
his fingers, so that he was obliged
,to let go his hold and he fell
into the sea. While he was being cut he cried out, " Oh, Portu-
guese, don't kill me !" While this was going on, all the prisoners
now present were on deck, taking a part in killing the sailors.
Serva continued aft, and called out, " Kill them, kill them !"
The prisoners used knives eight or nine inches long, with sharp
points and white handles ; and these were concealed inside the
waistbands of their trousers. I saw the prisoner Majoural run
after the young officer (Mr. Palmer) and run his knife into his
side; the officer fell against the bulwarks, and Majoural took him
up by his feet and threw him overboard. All this time I had hold
of the helm, but did not interfere for fear of what they might do
to me. The quartermaster fought desperately; he struck the
prisoner Alves on the head, and then pitched him overboard, but
he swam round to the boat and was picked up. The quarter-
master struggled forward with the other men, and knocked several
of them down. I believe he would have overpowered them
all, but some of them got behind him and stabbed him in the
back and side. He then fell, and died on the deck, which
was covered with his blood. All the prisoners present
except Serve, were concerned in this. The English sailors, who
were asleep, were stabbed and thrown overboard. The two Kroo..
men belonging to the Wasp jumped overboard and swam away.
When it was all over, Serva came up to me and said " Well, Cap-
tain, what do you think of it now ? Don't you think we have
done the thing that is just in killing these Englishmen ?" Serva
then lowered the peak of the mainsail, as a signal to his brother.
in-law, who was on board the brigantine. He said it was agreed
between them that whoever did the deed first should lower the
peak of the mainsail as a signal to the other. At this time the
brigantine was within sight. The witness then proceeded to detail
the manner of the schooner's passing the Echo, and at the conclu-
sion of his examination in chief he was subjected to a severe cross-
examination by Mr. Edwards. _ _ •

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF COMMONS, Julu 10.
COMMONS INCLOSURE BILL.
( Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
Clauses up to 125 were agreed to without a division.
The CHAIRMAN reported progress, and the House resumed.
MEMBER FOR ABINGDON.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL was introduced by Lord Jermyn
and Mr. Forbes M'Kenzie, and took the oaths and his seat, on
his re-election for the borough of Abingdon.
RETIRING PENSION TO NAVAL OFFICERS.
Captain PECHELL wished to ask the Gallant. Admiral op-
posite (Sir G. Cockburn), whether, and when, it was intended
to bring forward the supplemental vote for retired naval offi-
cers ? They had heard it currently reported that such a thing
would take place, and he (Captain Pechell) thought it per-
fectly fair, under these circumstances, to put the question.
Sir G. COCK BURN said that the subject was under the
consideration of her Majesty's Government, and he was not
prepared to give any other answer than that already given by
the First Lord of the Treasury the other evenin4. If fur-
ther information was required the Hon. and Gallant Member
had better repeat his question that evening.
COMMONS INCLOSURE BILL.
The House again went into Committee on this Bill, and the
remaining clauses were agreed to.
The Chairman then left, and the sitting of the House was
suspended till five o'clock.

to obtain any information. If he could have got it he
would have been spared the necessity of making the pre-
sent motion, but as it was he could only term it a
gigantic scheme cf connubial collegeality. It was not
very likely, therefore, that any of those fellows
would choose to leave their domus laxor in Dublin
for a waste parish in the wilds of the west. The
sc'ence taught in Trinity College was mathematics, and
for this he was ready to acknowledge the university had
obtained a European reputation, but in divinity
he was sorry to say the eminent examples were
f.-w and far between. The corporation consisted
of a provost, 7 senior fellows, and 25 junior fellows.
The senior fellows received about 3,0001. a year for
their services, and the juniors about 1,5001. What their
duties were he never could exactly make out, but he be-
lieved that they were precisely in an inverse ratio with
their emoluments. By the fees fur tuition, the college
had an income of about 28,3161., and from the rent of
land in Brunswick-street and the neighbourhood, there
etas an income of 21,6841., making in round numbers
50,000/. a-year. And what was the object of all this,
but to support Protestant ascendancy ? Now, he
did not think that this was in any way meeting
the requirements of the people of Ireland. Acade-
mical professorships in Trinity College were open
to Protestants of all nations, whilst they were closed
against the Irish Catholics. A few night ago, the Right
Hon. Baronet at the heal of the Government pronounced
a glowing eulogium upon Dr. Cave, who certainly was
one of the first lecturers in Europe ; but yet this very
Dr. Cave was unable to fill a professorship in Trinity
College. A Frenchman and a Spaniard were eligible,
provided they were Protestants, but an Irishman was
ineligible because he was not a Protestant. They talked
a great deal of repealing the penal laws, and their de-
sire to put down ascendancy, but they kept up an odious
ascendancy in Trinity College. It was their bounden
duty to extend the provisions of the Act of 1793, and
admit Catholics to participate in the honours and profits
of the university. A Commission had been appointed
to inquire into the Scotch universities. Why not into
the Irish ? The Right Hon. Baronet said there were
peculiar circumstances in the case of Ireland. So there
were circumstances that should compel inquiry into the
Dublin University beyond any other. And if the House
declined to interfere, he did not think the Royal hand
could be more usefully employed than in giving consent
to a Royal Commission to inquire into the state of that
college. Such an act would do credit to a Sovereign
who, whilst she rivalled Elizabeth in the ability to rule,
infinitely surpassed her in all the softer and more re-
fined attributes which adorn the sex.—(Cheers.)
Mr. M. BELLEW seconded the motion. He saw no
reason why a test should exist in Trinity College,
Dublin, any more than in the Scotch universities, where
it was virtually abandoned. It was of no use to attempt
to blink this question. Sooner or later this Church
question must come on, and they might therefore as
well settle it at once. There was one point beside,
which he desired to bring before the notice of the
House. And it was this. He held that it was the
policy of the Government to do as much justice as possible
to all the people of Ireland, except so far as
it might touch the Church. Now this attempt to ex-
chide the Roman Catholics from the advantages of the
corporate property in Ireland would prove a vain one.
The Government might think that it was wise to keep
this property in an exclusive position, but such was not
the opinion of Edmund Burke. In 1798 he had stated
that no large measure could ever be successful which did
not do away with those religious distinctions, which
had been the curse of the country, and he trusted
therefore that no attempt would be made to persevere in
this system of exclusion. He wished to say one word
before he sat down, with reference to the Landlords and
Tenants Commission, and all he would say upon that
subject was, that the destitution existing in that country
was beyond all calculation. The suggestion of the
Right Hon. Baronet a t the head of the Home Depart
ment of a royal commission would at once meet all the
circumstances of the case, and he believed that the ?re-
sent Sovereign would prove in no way inferior to Eliza-
beth in providing for the education of Ireland.

The House resumed at Five o'clock.
COMMONS INCLOSURE BILL.

Mr. GREENE brought up the report on the Commons
'Enclosure Bill, which was ordered to be received on
Friday next.
Mr. LOCKHART moved that the Committee on th
Yoker Road (No. 2) be allowed to sit on Friday next.
—Agreed to.
The Lerde' amendments to the Lyme Regis improve-
ments, Markets and Waterworks, and to the Chelsea
Improvements Bills, were agreed to.
Mr. MACAULAY brought up the report on the
South Devon and Launceston and South Devon Railway
Bill.
Lady Sandy's (Turner) Estate Bill was read a third
time, as was the Glasgow, Barrhead, and Neilston Rail-
way
The Lords' amendments to the London and Brighton
(Horsham Branch) Railway Bill and the Belfast Im-
provements Bill were agreed to.
Mr. LASCELLES moved—" That it be an instruction
to the Committee to whom the Railway Bills and pro-
jects comprised in Group A stand referred, that they
have power to introduce clauses in the Bill for making
a railway from Bulverhithe to Ashford, promoted by the
Brighton, Lewes, and Hastings Railway Company,
authorising that Company to transfer the powers which
may be conferred on them by such Bill to the South-
Eastern Railway Company, and making the last men-
tioned Company to exercise such powers, or some of
them, in terms of the prayer of the petition."
The '.;PE AKER then put the question.
Mr. GREENE said a few words, which were wholly
inaudible in the gallery.
The motion was agreed to.
Mr. MUNTZ moved the third reading of the Glasgow,
Barhead, and Neilston Railway Bill.
Read a third time and passed.
Mr. HAWES presented several petitions in favour of
the Physic and Surgery Bill from various places in Kent,
Middlesex, and Surrey.
Mr. MACKINNON presented a petition from New-
castle, in favour of the Smoke Prohibition Bill.
Mr. SHELL presented six petitions from Dungarvon
and Charleville, in favour of the Apothecaries Bill ; also
a petition from. Cork, in favour of a Ten Hours' Bill.
Mr. Sergeant MURPHY presented a petition in
favour of a Ten Hours' Bill.
NOTICES OF MOTION.
Mr. BODKIN gave notice that he should, on Monday,
move for leave to bring in a Bill to amend the law re-
lating to orders for the removal of paupers.
NEW ZEALAND.
Mr. C. BULLER gave notice that, on the 19th inst.,
he should move for copies of the correspondence which
had taken place between her Majesty's Government and
the New Zealand Company since the late debate.
SPANISH TREATIES.
Lord PALMERSTON said it was his intention, on
Tuesday next, to submit a motion on the subject of the
correspondence which had taken place between her Ma-
jesty's Government and the Spanish Ministry on the sub-
ject of the treaties existing between this country and Spain.
IRISH COLLEGES BILL.
On the motion that the Colleges (Ireland) Bill he
read a third time,
Mr. OSBORNEf proposed that an humble address be
presented to her Majesty, praying that she will be
graciously pleased to direct an inquiry to be made into
the amount of the revenues of Trinity College, Dublin,
from rents of College lands, endowments and bequests, fees
on matriculation, on taking degrees, and from every other
source ; also into the scanner in which that income is
expended, the number of senior and junior fellows, of
professors, scholars, and all other officers of the college,
with the amount of salary and allowances to each of
them ; with a view to ascertain whether the income or
funds at present applied solely to the benefit of Pro-
testants in Trinity College, Dublin, might not be
beneficially extended, so as to make Roman Catholics
and Protestant Dissenters eligible, if otherwise quell.
fled, to all scholarships, and to all such fellowships,
professorships, and other offices in Trinity College, Dub-
lin, as are not intended for ecclesiastical purposes, or
immediately connected with ecclesiastical endowment.
He regretted that no Member of the Government had
brought for ward this subject. However much ha
might regret that the matter had fallen into such in-
effectual hands, he would endeavour to make amends
for his inefficiency by the brevity with which he dis-
cussed it. He did not think he could he
fairly charged with any desire to throw an impedi-
ment in the way of the proposed measure. He had ab-
stained, hitherto, from entering on any of the details of
the measure, because, the more he considered the matter,
the greater would be its inability for the purposes
proposed, unless a great alteration took place
in the constitution of Trinity College, Dublin. The
whole system of that college was unknown—much yet
remained to be told with regard to the economy of its
internal working. There were subjects
which involved much consideration and inquiry
before any alteration in the collegiate
education was enforced. It would also be more prudent
to refrain from voting a large sum of money for a pur-
pose which the Catholic hierarchy had unanimously de-
clared would not be acceptable to the Irish people.—
He would, at the same time, ask Honourable Mem-
bers whether they knew how much the Roman
Catholics of Ireland contributed out of their own
resources to the support of the Catholic religion ? He
could tell them these individuals alone subscribed upwards
of 10,0001. annually to the propaganda of Lyons. In
the course of the present session a considerable sum of
money had been drawn from the consolidated fund for the
endowment of the Roman Catholic clergy, contrary to
the wishes and feelings of the people of England.
On the present occasion they were called on to vote
another sum of money from the same source—for the
establishment of three colleges which had been de-
nounced by the Roman Catholic prelates. It was impos-
sible to say what other dips would be made in this great
reservoir next session, but the Irish Land Commission
had suggested another encroachment upon it, viz , the
payment of 400,000/. to the Irish constabulary. By
many these points were looked upon with indifference ;
and by the Ministry this consolidated fund seemed to
be regards] as a sort of Pool of Bethesda,
where all the financial souls of Ireland might
be healed, whenever they thought fit to trouble its
waters. He saw no reason why Trinity College should
not be made available to the purpeses of education
in Ireland. Almost the whole emoluments of that
establishment were swallowed up by its fellows.
Only one in 320,000 of the Irish Catholic population
were educated there, and these were obliged to pay the
tutors, but were never allowed to participate in the
emoluments. He had had a notice on the paper, to
which the Right Hon. Baronet seemed adverse to the
discussion of. On that occasion the Right Hon. Baronet
said that this was a question not to he hastily disposed
of, and on a late occasion also, the Member for the Uni-
versity of Dublin had resisted' all inquiry into the sub-
ject, on the ground that the revenues of the College were
private property. He (Mr. Osborne) should like to ask
that Hon. and Learned Member if he represented them
as a private or as a corporate body ?—(Hear, hear.) The
Hon. and Learned Member was a judge of law, and he
(Mr. Osborne) would be glad to know from him the dis-
tinction between public and private property ? In erder
to assist him in arriving at a correct opinion, he would
refer him to the statement of an eminent jurist, Sir Jas.
Mackintosh, upon the subject. The Right Hon. Baronet
the Member for the University of Oxford, said that he
should vote for inquiry, if any allegation of abuse were
l made against the College.ie (Mr. Osborne) thought
that if he could prove to the Right Hon. Baronet's satis-
faction that the original character had been perverted, he
might calculate upon his support, and, in the first place,
College Was founded by
it had been alleged that Trinity
a Protestant Monarch, from Protestant funds, and for
Protestant purposes. What was the fact ? The College
was founded in 1592, and the very ground "on which it
was built was taken from the Roman Catholic convent
of AP-Hallows, and the object of the foundation was to
extend learning and civilisation among the Roman
Catholics of Ireland.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.")
So far from Trinity College having been founded by
Protestants for Protestant purposes, it was founded out
of the public money for public purposes. He altogether
denied that the original charter of the Dublin University
provided that it should be applied to any sectarian or
peculiar religious purposes. There was only one pas-
sage in the charter of Queen Elizabeth that could be
construed at all to mean anything of that kind, yet
that he was sure could not be interpreted to mean that
the University was founded for Protestant purposes.
There wis not a single word in it to that effect. He
would read the extract from the charter, and begged that
the Hon. Member for the Univs sity of Dublin would
translate it for the benefit of the country gentlemen be-
hind him. The Honourable Member here read the ex
tract to a hich he referred. The foundation of the Uni
versity of Dublin to Protestant purposes referred to
forty years after, when Strafferd and Laud were in
ower, and peay. rsecution against the Catholics was order
That was the first time that the Ito •
of the d
man Catho'ics were rendered ineligible. In a supple-
mentary charter, the exclusion of the Roman Catholics
was thus set forth. The Learned Gentleman here read
a Ion; extract in Latin from the second charter, to the
effect that Roman Catholics should be excluded, and
apart for Protestant purposes.
the establishment set
ile therefore denied that Trinity College was estab-
lished for exclusive purposes, and he should be glad
to hear what the Right lion. Gentleman the Member
for the city of Dublin had to offer on the subject. In
fact, Trinity College had been changed altogether in its
constitution to what it was originally. It was there
provided that there should be no married fellows in the
university. This was altogether altered ; and they had
now that which would make Queen Elizabeth shudder
in her grave —priest fellows who Were married. He had
made some inquiry about this, but] he had not been able

The examination of this witness occupied upwards of ten hours.
The Court adjourned at half.past six, and resumed the examina-
tion at eight o'clock.

SPORTING IN TELLIGEN CE.
TATTERSALLS.—YESTERDAY.
LIVERPOOL CUP.
5 to 1 agst Mr. Bell's Winesour—taken
6 to 1 agst Mr. Mo. tyn's Milton—taken
6 to 1 agst Mr. Meiklam's Trueboy
10 to 1 agst Mr. A. Johnstone's Rowena
11 to 1 agst Mr. A. W. Hill's Ironmaster
12 to 1 agst Mr. Collett's Corrauna—taken
12 to 1 agst Mr. Meiklam's Lightning
25 to 1 agst Mr. Standish's Little Hampton.
GOODWOOD CUP.
5 to 2 agst Mr. Irwin's Faugh-a-ballagh—taken
5 to 1 agst Mr. A. W. Hill's Ironmaster
12 to 1 agst Mr. Gratwicke's Stomacher.
GOODWOOD STAKES.
11 to 1 agst Mr. Johnstone's Pythia
12 to 1 agst Mr. A. W. Hill's Libel
16 to 1 agst Mr. Ramsbottom's Pineapple
17 to 1 agst Sir J. Hawley's Venus
18 to l agst Lord G. Bentinck's John o' Gaunt—taken
18 to 1 agst Mr. Payne's Queen Mab—taken
20 to 1 agst Mr. Parr's Europa—taken
'2O to 1 agst Sir C. Msnck's Glossy
20 to 1 agst Duke of Richmond's Lothario
20 to 1 agst Lord Howth's Warp
20 to 1 agst Mr. Etwall's iEgis
25 to 1 agst Lord Stradbroke's Boarding School Miss—t.
25 to 1 agst Lord Exeter's Wee Pet—taken
25 to 1 agst Mr. Ongley's Roderick.
ST. LEGER.
5 to 1 agst Mr. Gully's Weatherbit
6 to I agst Mr. Gratwicke's Merry Monarch.
NEWMARKET JULY MEETING—THURSDAY.
Sweepstakes of 10 toys, each, for '2 yrs old, fist 111 b, and 3 }rs,
93t. New T. Y. C. The winner to be sold for 200/., &e.
(Four Subs.)
Lord Exeter's Tunick, 3 yrs
Duke of Rutland's c by Glaucus, out of Minikin, 3 yrs 2
Mr. Freeman's Stamp, 3 yrs
Mr. Parker's Tom Sare, 2 yrs
Betting-6 to 4 agst Stamp; 5 to 2 agst Tunick ; 3 to 1
agst Tom Sare; and 3to 1 agst lllinikin c. Tom Sare and
Stamp made play at moderate speed, for a quarter of a mile,
and were then passed by the Minikin colt and Tunick, the
former leading ; half-way down the hill the latter went up,
and, after a middling race, won by a length ; Stamp a bad
third.
The Chesterfield Stakes of 30 soya. each, 20 ft., for 2 yrs old
colts, Bst 71b; and fillies, Bst 41). The winner of the July
Stakes to have carried 9ibs, and the second 41b extra. Last
half of BM. (16 Subs. )
Lord Chesterfield's Free Lance, by Jereed ............(Nat) 1
Duke of Rutland's f by Caesar, out of Ramadan's dam
Mr. E. Walker's Guzman
Lo. d Exeter's b c by Colwick, out of Mecca .. 4
Lord Albemarle's Nell Cook 5
Betting-6 to 4en Free Lance, sto 2 agst Ramadan filly,
and sto 1 agst Mecca colt. The Ramadan filly made the
running, followed by Nell Cook aad Gusman, Free Lance
waiting at Nell Cook's quarters. They remained in these
positions to the bottom of the hill, where Nell was beaten off.
Free Lance here show_d in advance, took the lead in two or
three strides, and won in a canter by two lengths, the Ramadan
filly beating Gnsman by half a length.
Handicap Sweepstakes of 15 soya. each, 10 ft for all ages, from
starting post of B. 11. to end of New T. Y. C. (3 Subs. )
Mr. Phillimore's Skeleton, 4 yrs, 7st
At a meeting of the Jockey Club on Wednesday, Lord
George Bentinck was proposed and unanimously approved of
as Steward, in the room of the Earl of Stradbroke, whose
term is out. The Garden Stakes did not fill.

Sir THOMAS FREMANTLE said that he re-
gretted that it was not in his power to accede to the
motion of the Hon. Gentleman. The Hon. Gentleman
had made a very humorous speech, and had evinced
that he had made very extensive researches, and had
touched on a vast variety of topics. If he had made out
any case of a malversation of the funds of the college,
then indeed there would be some reason for inquiry, but
no such grounds had ever been attempted to be adduced,
and he must therefore be obliged to resist the motion.
The great front of the offence appeared to be that the
fellows were allowed to get married.
Mr. OSBORNE—AII the fellows ?

Sir T. FREMANTLE—He believed only the senior
fellows. But, whether only the seniors or all, the princi-
ple was the same. Now, without going into any length-
ened inquiry on this subject, he must contend that the
circumstance in no way affected the course of education
which was given at Trinity College. Then, again, with
respect to the Church patronage, he felt compelled to
express his dissent from the assertion that thatpatronage
was unwisely employ( d. And again, with regard to the
income of the College, the Honourable Member appeared
to have gone on very insufficient data or the conclusions
at which he had arrived. The Honourable Member had
stated that the income of the College was 50,0001., and

that the emoluments of the senior fellows was as much as
3,0001 a year. Now, from the inquiries which he had male,
he was induced to believe that the income of the richest
fellowship was not more than 1,700/. a year. Yet, even
if it were 3,0001., which it was not, there would still he
no impediment to the good education of the pupils, arid
he believed that no objection was felt against the emo-
luments which the professors enjoyed. Then, again, as
to Protestant ascendancy, why it might as well be said
that they were supporting Catholic ascendancy by in-
creasing the grant to Maynooth from 8,000/. to 26,0001.
a yr( ar. And as to the exclusion of Roman Catholics
from the college, it was well known that Roman Catho-
lics did go there, were educated there, and were thankful
for the education they received. Respecting the suppo-
sition that Roman Catholics were excluded from the ad-
vantages of the scholarships, all he had to say was that
there was a case at the present moment pending in the
Queen's Bench in Dublin, in which a Roman Catholic
member of the University, who had passed his examina-
tion, was suing to be installed in a scholarship. Should
that decision be unfavourable, an Act of Parliament
might be necessary ; but until the decision of the Judges
was made known, it was at least premature to accede to
any motion such as that before the House ; and con-
ceiving that no sufficient ground had been made for pass-
ing it, he should certainly give it his decided opposition.
Mr. ROCHE said that the Right Hon. Baronet, who
had just sat down, had stated, that in the event of the
decision of the Judges of the Court of Queen's Bench in
Dublin being unfavourable, that an Act of Par-

liament would be necessary.' That was the very thing
he wanted, and why not pass an Act at once?
The Right Hon. Gentleman the Secretary for Ireland
had referred to what had been said by his Right Hon.
and Learned Friend the Member for Dungarvon
about Catholic ascendancy. But the Right Honourable
Baronet ought to remember that though they desired
that the Roman Catholics of Ireland should be educated,
they had no desire to establish an ascendancy of Roman
Catholics over the Protestant Church there. It had been
asserted over and over again that the College of the
Trinity in Dublin was open to all sects and classes. This
was a fallacy which could not be too frequently over-
thrown. It was not the case. The Roman Catholics
were admitted on the same footing as Protestants ;* and
he therefore contended, with other Irish Members, that,
since they would not withdraw any part of the funds
of that college for the purposes of education,
the Government should at least build another college on
more liberal principles, and give the same extent of
classical learning to the students who might be entered
of it. The professors of Trinity, in the anatomical and
other chairs were required to conform to the Esta-
blished Church of Ireland. Now he should like to know
what difference the being a Catholic should make in
anatomy, natural or moral philosophy, or other chairs,
unconnected with theology in that college. He thought
that every Irishman who really loved his country would
be anxious to see all these restrictions removed, and
without it, he thoUght the reconciliation of that country
could not be accomplished.
_ _ . _ . .

Mr. HAMILTON assured the House that there was
no indisposition on the part of the fellows of the Uni-
versity of Dublin to give her Majesty's Government any
information on the subject of these colleges, but he
thought this motion had its origin in a hostile spirit,
as it certainly emanated from a hostile party. It had
been said that the system pursued at Dublin College
was hostile to education ; but he would remind the
House of the names that had emanated from it, distin-
guished in every department of the classics, the arts, and
the sciences. It would be invidious to institute any com-
parison with the colleges of Oxford and Cambridge, but
he could not help saying that there were at present more
fellows in the first of these Universities than had been
in the Dublin College from its very foundation.—(Hear,
hear.) The objections which Hon. Members had urged
against the University of Dublin was, that it was a
merely Protestant College. But they should remember
that it was founded by Queen Elizabeth ; and if
they recollected the character of that age, and
the opinions which were prevalent, they would not
surely express any surprise that it was founded for the
purpose of extending the Protestant faith. There were
certain offices to which Roman Catholics were not eligi-
ble, but they were of that kind that the restriction could
not be looked upon as a very great grievance. They
were the offices of Provost, Vice-Provost, and certain
fellowships and scholarships. The Hon. and Learned
Memt.er then enumerated the different classes in the
college, in order to show that education was there taught
on the most liberal principle. The only objection which
the Hon. Member seemed to substantiate, and the justice
of which he (Mr. Hamilton) would not admit, was, that
the university was intended to propagate the doctrines
of the Protestant Establishment. He thought that if
they interfered with the present system they would, in -
stead of conciliating Ireland, be rather adding to her dis-
tractions.

Me. WARBURTON thought that no objection could
reasonably be given to a motion, which had only for its
object the establishment of a Commission for the pur-
pose of inquiring if the intentions of the founders of the
university had been carried out. They had to inquire
whether the funds which had been given had been ap-
plied according to the terms of the charter, and they
found the charter of Charles 1., in 1637, laid down
the scalp of emoluments which the provost, and other
officers, were to receive. There they found that the
provost was to receive 1001. sterling, the senior fellows
9/. 13s. 4d., and the junior fellows 3/. Now, indeed,
they, in consequence of the difference in value of money,
should be placed on a different footing ; but yet
they had to look if a large amount of the
available property of the college was not swal-
lowed up in the shape of salaries, instead of being
expended in the way directed by the founders.
And if they did examine into the history of the Univer-
sity, they would find that Encroachments had been made
at different periods—encroachments which crippled the
energies, and limited the usefulness of the Institution to