The Sun.
London, England, 1845-06-06 00:00:00

THE NENr HOUSES-0F PARLIAMENT.

Lord BROUGHAM called attention to the crowded state
of the House on the preceding evening, and complained of their
Lordships being obliged to meet in a place by no means
sufficiestly large to contain the whole of their number. He
wished to ask the Noble Marquis aho took an interest in this
matter whether he intended to renew his motion on the subject
of the new Houses of Parliament ?

The Alarquis of CLANRICARDE thought it highly unjust
and improper that their Lordships should be compelled to
continue longer in the present building. It was absolutely
necessary that something should be done to urge on the com-
pletion of the new House, and this was not merely a matter of
public convenience, but a matter appertaining really to the
health of their Lordships.—( Hear, hear.) They ought, cer-
tainly, to have been in the new House before this time, and
they most undoubtedly would have been, had proper attention
been paid to the subject. They would long ago have been in
the other House, had it not been that some hesitation had been
felt about the best decorations and ornaments to be used in
the House, which were properly introduced as subsidiary to the
dignity of the place in which they assembled, but which ought
to be entirely a matter of secondary consideration. In answer
to the Noble and Learned Lord, he begged to state that it was
his ,ntention, whenever a favourable opportunity presented
itself, to move the re-appointment of the Committee up stairs.
—( Hear. )
The Marquis of NORMANBY wished to say a word or two
on this subject. It was impossible to endure the sufferings
to which they had been subjected for the last three nights, as
well from the vitiated air produced by the imperfect way in
which the House was ventilated, as from the sudden drafts on
that side of the House. He had himself caught a cold a short
time ago, which confined him to the house for nearly a week,
and he could attribute it to no other cause than the drafts
of that House. He hoped, therefore, that some means would
be resorted to for the purpose of obtaining an assurance that
these evil* would be remedied before the next session of Par-
liament.

Lord CAMPBELL thought that it aas not creditable that
these complaints, which had been reiterated so often, should be
still unattended to.

Lord BROUGHAM said it appeared to him that Mr. Barry
did all but set that House at defiance. Mr. Barry conceived
he had high protection in that House, but let him take care
that he would not find himself mistaken.

The LORD CHANCELLOR presented petitions against the
imprisonment for small debts.
Lord BROUGHAM said the wishes of the petitioners
amounted to nothing more or less than this, that they
should contract small debts, but never be asked to
pay them, or forfeit their goods for them, or be put in gaol
for them. _-(Laughter.) He now begged to present a petition
from a Noble Lord a Member of that House, in which the
petitioner complained that a branch of the Nottingham railroad
in the midland counties, proposed to pass through a part
of his estate, would not only destroy his game preserves,
but also render it impossib:e that any one could live comfortably
in his house, on which he had recently expended 10,000/. He
the efore appealed to their Lordships, having in vain
sought justice elsewhere. He (Lord Brougham) begged to
move that the petition be referred to the Committee.
MA YNOOTH GRANT.

The Earl of WINCHP..SEA presented twenty-five peti-
tions against the grant to Maynooth, from the following
amongst other places :—Kent. Devonshire, Surrey, Dublin,
Sussex, Buckinghamshire, Winchester, Stafford, York, Bles-
sington, Lincoln, Leicester, Devon, and Derby. While he
was now on his legs he would beg to call attention to a matter
somewhat personal to himself. He had heard it said that he
had been reported to have said in that House that he had ac-
cused an Hon. Member of the other House of Parliament of
having acted dishonestly or insidiously. (The Noble Lord
was understood to allude to Mr. Gladstone) He (Lora Win..
chilsea) had not seen a report of his speech, but he scarcely
thought it possible he could have used such words—(Cries of
" No, no")—for, he believed, there lived not a more honour-
able or high-minded man than that Hon. Member.—( Hear. )
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY gave notice that he
would ask a question on Monday next of the First Lord of the
Admiraly, relative to the harbour of Donogliadee. •
The Marquis of BRE DALBANE said he regretted to
have heard the Noble Lord who closed the debate on the
Maynooth Bill, say that the petitions against that measure
should not be deemed indicative of the feeling of tke country,
or looked upon as genuine.
Lord STANLEY said his Noble Friend must be under
some misapprehension as to what he had said. What he did
say was, that many of those petitions had emanated from vari-
ous causes, and different expedients had been resorted to to get
them up; but he did not say that he had not the highest re-
spect for tke petitioners.—( Hear. )