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sentiments on the foreign policy of the Government to another
opportunity, and should now move the adjournment to the
next day. .
A Voice—No, no; it is only half-past five o'clock.
M. Dupin said, that though the two Cabinets and the two
sovereigns were on excellent terms, distrust still existed be-
tween the two nations. They were told that the national sen-
timent had need to be directed and influenced. He was not
so distrustful with respect to it, and he was, on the contrary,
contented to be influenced by it. He must tell the Minister
that he did not altogether agree with the Cabinet on t'ae right
of search. It was not merely a question of getting their right
to negotiate recognised, but to get the treaty put an end to al-
together, for it offended the nation. He thought the Ministry
ought to exert themselves on this point; for if this cause of
difficulty were removed, would not the position of the two
nations be better, the great cause of distrust being put down ?
If the negotiations led to nothing, ought the Cabinet not to
regiet having made advances to a Government which, on its
side, did nothing in return? If paragraph 4 was so understood
as that it implied a reserve, meaning an intelligence not by
any means resembling an hairnets alliance, be should vote for
it ; but if it meant to say that they approved of everything
said in the speech from the Croon, he should vote for M. Bil-
lault's amendment..
4i M. De St. Marc ' ardin, the reporter, remarked that the
paragraph only refe to Greece and Spain, and the Com-
mittee thought they e quite justified in going so far.
AI. Billault observed, that he did not think " cordial under-
standing" existed on those two points, and therefore he had
brought forward his amendment.
The Minister for Foreign Affairs—l coincide in the opinion
of the Hon. M. Dupin, that everything should be perfectly
clear for the Chamber and for the country. For more than
three years the present Cabinet has laboured to maintain the
peace which had been compromised, to re-establish the friendly
relations of France with Europe, and to re-establish a good
understanding between France and England ; for more than
three years the Cabinet has pursued these objects. It has just
told you in the speech from the throne, not only that all diffi-
culties have disappeared, but that good reciprocal feeling, cor-
dial understanding, subsists between the two Governments,
and it tells you so on two special questions. The Cabinet does
not suppress other difficulties—neither the right of search nor
others. When the Cabinet entered into the negotiation it did
so frankly, sincerely, and with the desire to succeed in it. The
first condition of success is to keep up the good understanding
that exists between the two countries, without which the nego-
tiations could not even be continued. It is at this moment
that you seek to remove this good understanding, and to weaken
the chances of success. Listen to what your committee says.
(The Hon. Minister here read the fourth paragraph of the ad-
dress, and continued) ;--What is it you propose by your
amendment? There is nothing in the expressions made use of
by the committee which is not perfectly in conformity with the
interests and dignity of the Chamber. If you suppress the
expression, "We are happy to learn"—if you refuse to say
that you are happy to learn this good understanding—know,
Gentlemen, that the labour of the Cabinet will be destroyed,
and cannot be recovered.--(Agitation. )
M. Dupin said that the Minister of Foreign Affairs, in say-
ing that he agreed with him, imputed to him an opinion that
was not his. He admitted that a good understanding between
the Governments; was the first condition of success; but as to
them, as to the people (noise and interruption), their -senti-
ments should not yet be anticipated, nor that cordiality ex-
pressed which they did not yet feel. There were suspicions
justified by the past. The Government might express its senti-
ments without reserve, but the committee, expressing the idea
of the Chamber, should not go too far. They had been told
that the cordial understanding was specially on the affairs of
Spain and Greece, but in the speech from the throne that dis-
tinction had not been made.

The President then read the amendment proposed by M.
Billault, which was put to the vote and rejected.
The Chamber then adjourned at a quarter to 6 o'clock.
TUESDAY.

At 2 o'clock M. Sauzet, the President, took the chair.
The Chairman resumed shortly afterwards the discussion on
the 4th paragraph of the address, to which M. David proposed
the following amendment :
" May the noble country which gave its blood and treasures
to constitute a free nation between Europe and Asia not be
deceived in her hopes. May your high vrisdons, Sire, and
the negotiations of your Ministers, procure for Greece an ex-
tension of territory necessary for the stability of the throne and
independence of the nation."
He showed the injustice of having only constituted one por-
tion of the Greek nation into an independent' state, whilst an-
other was left to gr under the most cruel bondage. He had
heard during several days very eloquent appeals against English
alliance ; he appreciated its inconveniences, but he would ask
if any other could be substituted for it with the same advan-
tages, under existing circumstances. France and England,
both marching at the head of civilization, should not divide in
so noble a cause, but closely unite to complete their work and
conselidate the triumph of the cross and liberty.
M. Guizot, in repiy, said that he honoured the sentiments
which had inspired the amendment of M. David, but he
would oppose its adoption, because it could not be acted upon
without a violation of the treaty which had constituted the
Greek monarchy, and a new dismemberment of the Ottoman
empire. The great point for Greece was to organise and con•
solidate herself ; to flatter her with an illusion that diverted
her from that care might compromise and be fatal to her
existence.

M. L'Herbette fully concurred in the opinion of M. Guizot,
and that the paragraph of the address was sufficient, and M.
David's amendment useless.
After a desultory conversation,
The President read the sth and following paragraph of the
address

" This good intelligence will, without doubt, contribute to
the success of the negotiations which, while they guarantee
the repression of an infamous traffic, ought to tend to again
place our commerce under the exclusive surveillance of our own
flag."
M. Billault proposed the following amendment to the para-
graph
This good intelligence, Sire, can only be complete and
durable when negotiations. conducted with perseverance, and
still having for their object the depression of that infamous
traffic, shall have replaced the French navy under the exclusive
surveillance of the national lag."
He reminded the House of the initiative it had taken on the
question of the right of search, and contended that it should
not suffer its decision to be considered a dead letter at the
other side of the Channel; the more so as Sir R. Peel had de-
clared in Parliament, that certain modifications might be con-
sented to, but that the principle could admit of no concession.
He conceived that M. Guizot was not animated with the sam
paternal feeling with regard to the abrogation of the con-
ventions of 1831 and 1833 as the Chamber; what the latter
required was the suppression in an absolute manner of the
right of search, and not a mere modification of that right.
The treaty of 1831, besides, was not susceptible of any
modification, for its first article stipulated that the right of
search should be exercised, and the other articles contained
mere regulations respecting the exercise of that right. M.
Guitot had said that he would never consent to the violation o
those treaties ; his apprehension that the good understanding
between the two Governments would be impaired by their
abrogation, was not well founded. M. Billault thought, on
the contrary, that it was more likely that the good understand-
ing would suffer from their non-abrogation. He did not mean
that France should brutally break off with Great Britain; th
negotiations should be conducted with the egards which tw
great nations owed to each other ; but it was the right of
France to insist on the abrogation. The sentiments o th
country and the Chamber were unanimous on that point.
M. Gasparin said that the Chamber had decided last year
that the French trade should be replaced under the ex•
elusive surveillance of the national flag. That question
was now settled, but it remained to be seen by what means
the repression of the slave trade could be continued. All
were agreed as to the end, but he apprehended, should the
Chamber adopt any grave resolution, without calculating
its bearing, and devising a plan for attaining the desired
object, that it might place the Government in a most critical
position. M. Gasparin was afraid that the renunciation •f
France to the exercise of the right of search would be the
signal of the renewal of that infamous traffic, which, he main-
tained, was still carried on to a frightful extent, notwithstand-
ing the vigilance of English and French cruisers in most of
the colonies.
Baron Mackau, the Minister of Marine, here interrupted
the speaker, and said that an exception should be made in favour
of the French colonies.
M. Gasparin admitted that the trade had ceased altogether
in those colonies since 1830.
M. Gasparin then resumed, and after showing that the right
of visitation was, after all, the only efficacious mode of repres-
sion and that its inconveniences had been greatly exaggerated,
concluded by recommending the abolition of slavery in the
French colonies.
Baron Mackau here rose, and said that he was as anxious for
the abolition of slavery as M. Gasparin, and that he would be
happy to have it in his power to present such a measure to the
Chamber ; but he could not help observing, that the reasons
adduced by M. Gasparin would be better if placed in the mouth
of the British negotiator in London, than in that of a French
deputy.
Messrs. L'Herbette, Bignon, and Dupin, afterwards addressed
the House, which was left sitting.

SHIPWRECK ON THE GOODWIN
SANDS.

On Saturday night a most distressing shipwreck took
place on the Goodwill Sands, in the total loss of a fine
brig, called the Shephardess, of 200 tons burthen, Mr.
Turner, master, belonging to Bideford, whilst on her
passage from Newcastle to Plymouth, laden with coals.
When off the north sand head of the Goodwin, there
came on a tremendous gale of wind, which almost im-
mediately drove the vessel on the sands, and she in-
stantly fell over on her beam ends. The occurrence
being perceived by the crews of several luggers belong-
ing to Deal, Ramsgate, and Broadstairs, who are gene-
rally cruising about that dangerous part of the coast in
order to render immediate assistance to vessels in dis-
tress, they quickly bore down towards her, but the gale
still increasing, accompanied by a heavy fall of hail and
snow, made it utterly impossible for them to go alongside
the wreck ; in fact, it was anticipated that their boats
could not outlive the storm ; the sea running so tremen-
dously high. The crew of the ill-fated brig were at this
period in a truly appalling condition, no sooner had she
struck, than the surf made a complete breach over her,
and several of the poor fellows were nearly washed over-
board, It was only by maintaining a firm hold that they
were prevented from bei swept away, and they after-
wards more firmly secured themselves by lashing each
other in the rigging, where they were not so exposed to
the full fury of the boisterous element, the sea contin-
ually rolling over the mast-head. In this situation did
the unfortunate creatures, who consisted of Captain Tur-
ner, eight seamen, and an apprentice, remain for seven
hours, and conceiving that it was next to an impossibi-
lity of being saved, shook hands fervently with each other,
and resigned themselves to that fate which apparently
awaited them, as the vessel then was fast sinking into the
body of the sand.' Time conduct pursued by the crews
of the luggers, who are better known as " Deal boat-
men," was of such a 'character as. deserves the highest
commendation. They continued crinzing about the wreck,
waiting for an apportunity to run alongside of her, and
in doing which their craft often appeared as if buried