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adversary ; they met him urn the footing of an adverse:l.y. It
was compe•ent, and within the ccuree el fair Parliamentary
warfare, for the Noble Lord the Member for Sunderlaird to
propose that amendment tor the consideration of the House.
The Noble Lard had felt. that the motion as pe•eoscri by the
en. Gentleman the Member for Finsbury won d not be gc one..
rally entertained. It had teen condemned by sec( eal lion.
Menaces ; it was subjected to the condemnation of the iloa.
Member for Sheireld, who, in a most erimirable speech, which,
from the general spirit in which it was breathed, it was refresh-
ing to hear in such a debate, bad stated that it was impossible
Ur him to agree to the motion of the Hon. Gentleman the
Mc mber for Finsbury. The Noble Lord the Member for Sun-
derland felt it was necessary to bring his straggling wily to-
gether. He felt it was necessary to raise a standard under
which they might rally. Quite consistent with Pai liamentary
tactics, the Noble Lord had framed an amendment, which, it
appeared, was in consonance with the feelings of the Hon.
Gentlemen who generally voted with him. It was probable
that the fugitives would return to their standard, and, uniting
with the Noble Lord, they would no doubt form themselves
into another body. Rot the lion. Gentleman the Member for
Shrewsbury it was not expected would give his support to the
Noble Lord the Member for Sunderland. He (the Solicitor-
General) said it was not expected, b cause it would he in the
recollection of the House that when the honourable Gentleman
and his reoble Friend the Member for Shrewsbury rose together,
there was a general call from the other side of the House for the
Hon. Member for Shrewsbury, to whom his Noble Friend the
Member for Liverpoel was compelled to give way. Now,
. although he admitted the talent and ingenuity of the lion.
Gentleman the Member for Shrewsbury, yet, assuredly, he sus-
pected it was not entirely to enjoy the exhibition of such talent
and ingenuity that induced Hon. Member! on the other side of
the Howse to be so ready to receive him with open arms; and
they were rot deceived in their expectations. The Honourable
Member for Shrewsbury supported, with all his heat t, the
amendment which was proposed by the Noble Lord ; but be
declared that he supported the molien with no hostile
feeling towards his Right Honourable Friend the Secretary
of State for the Home Department. lie regretted to
say, however, that the tone and manner of expression
of that Honourable Gentleman strongly denied his decla-
ration.—(Cheers. ) lie had been at a loss to conceive what
it was that actuated the Hon. Member for Shrewsbury. The
Hon. Member, however, was kind enough to explain this. The
Hon. Member for Shrewsbury had told them that his Right
Hon. Friend had invariably treated him with courtesy. At
first he was at a loss to account for the course pursued by the
Hon. Member for Shrewsbury. but it now appeared to him
that it was perfectly clear, and he could, therefore, understand
how it was that Hon. Members on the other side of the House
were so completely prepared for the exhibition of feeling on
the part of the Hon. Member.—(Cheers.) Now the Hon.
Member talked largely against one portion of the question,
and he was followed by his Hon. and Learned Friend the
Member for Bath. The Honourable and Learned
Member for Bath was pleased to address him
as the highest legal authority on common law, by which he
presumed his lion. and Learned Friend meant the judge who
presided in the highest court of common law in this kingdom,
which was not exactly the same as his office. To-night the
question of law had been revived partly by the Hon. and
Learned Member fur Newport, who acted as a sort of pleader
to his Noble and Learned Friend. The Member for Kinsale
stood upon his own ground, but his Hon. and Learned Friend
the Member for Kinsale had attached himself to the legal
ground which constituted the principal part of his speech.
But it occurred to him, wnen the observation was made, that the
legal consideration of the matter had not the slightest bearing
on the question, and he confes ed he still entertained the same
opinion. He was, however, placed in a situation of very great
embarrassment and difficulty on this subject. He felt that he '
was entering upon irrelevant matter, which did not at all re-
late to the motion or the amendment which was be'ore the '
House; but for fear it should be supposed that he was agreeing
to the law which had been laid down, he felt it to be his duty
to attempt to answer some questions which had been raised
during the debate, which were quite foreign to the question un-
der discussion. Now, at the same time, he must say, that there
was nothing more unsatisfactory than the legal opinions which
were expressed by gentlemen of his profession in the course of
a debate in that House. However strongly he might be im-
pressed with the view of the law bearing upon the question
which they were considering, still it might be an impossibi-
lity to get rid of the feeling which must exist amongst some
Hon. and Learned Members that he was speaking under a bias
which warped his j dgment, and prevented his coming to a
sound and honest conclusion.—(llear, hear.) But still lie
must not shrink from the performance of a public duty which
had been imposed on him ; and the House would permit him
to say that he felt a very serious responsibility for every opinion,
on a point of law, which he might be called upon to express.
But, nevertheless, he would not shrink from the responsibility
which devolved upon him. Now, in regard to the opinion ex-
pressed by the Noble Lord, he would, in the first place, beg
leave to remark upon the statements—that the warrants were
not sanctioned by law, that general warrants was the course
which the law recognised. Now, in the House of Lords, the
Lord Chancellor, Lord Brougham, and Lord Denman held a
different opinionv but he must admit that Lord Campbell dif-
fered from the other Noble Lords. The three other Noble
Lords have concurred in the opinion that a general warrant
might be issued to open the letters of a particular in-
dividual, within a certain period. Lord Campbell,
however, was of opinion that it required a specific
warrant of each particular case of opening letters. He ad-
mitted, also, that the Noble Lord who presided in the Court of
Queen's Bench appeared afterwards to have changed his opinions,
still the conclusion which the Noble Lord had come to was very
vague and unsatisfactorily expressed. Now, his Noble and
Learned Friend the Member for Kinsale was the only member
of the legal profession who had argued the question of law, hut
he was afraid he and his Hon. and Learned Friend were
not likely to agree upon this subject, nor was he likely to
make his lion. and Learned Friend a convert to his opinions.
What said his Hon. and Learned Friend? He said he cared
not for Usage. " Give me," said his Hon. and Learned
Friend, " from the foundation of Rome to the present day,
and I will not sanction such a practice as this." Well, his
Hon. and Learned Friend forgot an expression which he used
in the course of his argument. At the end of his speech the
Hon. anti Learned Gentleman, adverting to the peculiar ques-
tion bearing upon the Hon. Member, expressed himself thus
.‘ Why, what objection can there be toexhibiting these warrants?
Let them only produce the legal warrant and it would be an
answer to the question." His Hon. and Learned Friend was,
however, mistaken in that; for they could draw no conclusion
.0 that respect. His Hon. and Learned Friend had spoken of
gene warrants.
-el Now did his Hon. and Learned Friend
.
know the
~.story of general wanants? Now he would be aware
that general was:-ants had existed since between 1694 and 1763
without an Act of _Parliament ; yet in the latter year it
was decided that the Issue of general warrants was
made legal by usage. A C2iniplaint had been made that
there were no lawyers in the Cterfolllittee appointed to inquire
into this subject. Now, in the c„nmittee of the House of
Lords were there nut the two ex-Lord Chancellors—Cotten-
ham and Brougham ? It was said that the power was not.con-
ferred by any statute law. True, the report of the House of
Lords said that the Act of Anne gave no power to the Secre-
tary of State to detain or op -n letters, but if his Hon, and
Learned Friend had read two other lines in the report he would
have found that the power was justified by the fact
that up to that period the right had been fully
recognised. His Hon. and Learned Friend had declared
that he had not been able to find any authority to justify this
power ; but as the power, when exercised, was !widow known
to the world, it was not likely that many authorities would exist
on the subject. It was important that they should have evidence
of a clear and conclusive nature upon the subject, and with the
permission of the House he would just refer for one moment to
the statute of Anne. In the 40th section they would find it
provided that no person should be allowed to detain or open
letters entrusted to the care of the Post-office, unless authorised
by a warrant under the hand of one of the principal Secretaries
of State. Now in the present reign all the Acts relating to
the Post-office were repealed, but they were afterwords conso-
lidated in another Act. This Act requited the postmaster to
make a particular declaration, which the House would remem-
ber had received the especial sanction of Parliament. The de-
claration was in these terms—" I do hereby solemnly and sin-
cerely deelare that I will net wittingly or willingly open or delay
contrary to my oath, any letter or anything sent by post which
shall come to my hands by reason of my employment in the
Pest-office, except by the consent of the person or persons to
whom they are, or it is directed, or by the express warrant in
writing under the hand of one of her Majesty's principal Secre-
taries of State." A subsequent Act, which cancelled all former
Acts, contained the same expressions as to the detention or
opening of letters in the absence of an express
warrant of one of the principal Secretaries of State.
Now he certainly did not understand what was meant by the
Hon. and Learned Member for Shrew4eiry last night, when
he said that no power of opening or detaining letters was con-
ferred by statute upon the Secretary of State. The Hon.
Member said that the object of the Acts of Parliament was to
prevent any clerk, sub-agent, or subordinate person in the
Post-office from opening or detaining any letter; it was not
intended to give any power to the Secretary of State to autho-
rise any such opening or detention.—(" Hear, hear," from
Mr. Jervis.) Would his Hon. and Learned Friend who
cheered this position be kind enough to state why the Secretary
of State was referred to at all? If the sole object were to pre-
vent clerks from opening or detaining letters, why was it not
stated ?—( Hear.) His Hon. and Learned Friend might dis-
cover a solution of the difficulty which did net occur to himself,
but he could not understand, on the assumption to which he
had referred, why the exception should have been introduced
--(Hear, hear.) That exception appeared to him to show
that the Secretary of State had a power, under certain cir-
cumstances, which would render legal the acts of the subor-
dinate agent.—( Hear, hear.) Well, then, what was the result
of the whole of this question?' He (the Solicitor-General)
ventured to give it as his deliberate opinion that, this being a
power which was exercised at common law before any of the
statutes existed, those statutes, though they did not confer the
power, because it already existed, recognised and sanctioned
its exercise by the Secretary of State.—( Hear, hear.) He
would now proceed to consider for a moment how this
matter affected the privileges of Members of Par-
liament. Now, he knew that this was a much more
delicate question ; and knowing that upon this subject some
Hon. Members were peculiarly sensitive, he was afraid that
he should incur their censure when he ventured to say, that it
was his firm conviction that Members of that House pos-
sessed no greater privilege, as regarded the power of the
Secretary of State over their letters, than any other indivi-
dual in the country.—( Hear, hear, and cheers from the
Ministerial benches.) He inferred this from the terms of
the often-adverted-to resolution of 1735. Complaints having
been made in that case, that certain letters had been
opened and read by the clerks of the Post-effice, the House
resolved that it was a high infringement of the privileges of
Members, to open or look into arty letter without an
express warrant in writing, under the hand of one
of the principal So .retaries of State.—( Hear, hear.)
Sunderland The Noble Lord the Member for contended that
this power ought not to exist with regard to the letters of
Members, because it might be perverted to political or party
purposes. He (the Solicitor-General) did not reason from
the possibility of abuse against the exercise of this power, but
only that there ought to be great caution and care in its exer-
cise. if any Secretary of State were to pervert the power to
political or party purposes, he would justly incur the severest
animadversion of the House. But then, it should be remem-
bered, that the Committee: of both Houses had reported that
neither by the !tight Honourable Gentleman nor
fo by
r
his predecessors had the power ever been Used
any purpose whatever inconsistent with the welfare of
the country.—(Hear, hear.) Now, with regard to the ex-
pediency of continuing this important and delicate power,
though that was not a question which was necessarily in-
cluded in the one before the House, as far as he could gather
the state of feeling on the subject, he thought there seemed
to be a general feeling that the power ought to exist, though
it should be guarded by certain restrictions and conditions.
( Hear, bear,) He was afraid that if that power were to be
is the smallest degree peril), it was impossible to impose any
cia:eks upon its exerciie. There Wad, be believed, no alterna-
tive betweeti the utter abolition of the potter, a;-,d Iciying it to
the discretion of the high authority ur whom it was vested by
the Constitution.—(lltar, hear.) He now passed to that
which was more immediately the subject for the consideration
of the House. In the course of the last session, the Hon.
Member for Finsbury presented two petitions to the House
from foreigners *AP OM plamed that their letters had been
g
preeee particularly against
opened ; and the core
his Right lion. Friend the Secretary or 'Sate. Tlie state-
ment came upon the House with most startling effect.. /,,jaily
Hon. Members were not previously aware of the existence of the
power. His Right Hon. Friend was placed in a most diffi-
cult and embarrassing position. Ile felt himself bound by his
official duty to reln4in perfectly silent under the

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putatien. It had been said on the otle r si lc of
the iiense that the Right Honourah'e Gentle-
r:lst: usieht have prevented all that c:i.tetissien by
a sin is word. He nl ght. Why was not that word ut-
tered ? Because an imperative an overruling sense of c.irty
yrevented its utterance.— ( Hear, hear. ) but there were Mem-
bers of th,t House who kt:ew the position in which his Right
1101 a. Friend was placed; they themselves had been entrusted
with the same delicate (Trice ; yet they did not take any step to
remove the odium which rested upon him. Had they been
silent upon the subject, even that might have been some exte-
nuation ; but they hurl not exhibited their usual manliness and
generosity hy eorniug forward to relieve tlie Right, lion. baronet
from his position. A great envier excitement prevailed on the
subject. He believed the Noble Lord and the Right lion.
Baronet suspected that his Hight Hon. Friend's lips would be
sealed; they were hardly prepared for his earning forward to
court inquiry.—( Hear, hear.) Yet in a speech, the manly,
calm, and distinguished composure of which was calculated to
make the deepest impression on the House, his Right Hon.
Friend declared that he thought the time had now arrived when
the whole truth should be known ; that if the power were not to
be regarded as utterly worthless, the whole of the circum-
stances connected with its exercise by himself must be dis-
closed. It was at length de, id.•(l that there should be a
Select Committee to investigate the matter. There was a
preponderance in the Committee of those who were opposed to
his Right lion. Friend ; and if the Hon. Member for Finsbury
were excluded from it as the accuser, lie stood in precisely
the same position as other lion. Members of that House.
His 11(.11. and Learned Friend the Member for Kinsale re-
gretted that the Committee had had no power to report con-
cerning the law on this subject. His Hon. and Learned
Friend would forgive him for saying that lie would have done
much better if he had read tire terms in which the Committee
was appointed, instead of employing himselt by diving into his
books tor authorities; because, if his Hon. and Learned Friend
had re erred to the beginning of the report-, he would have
found that such power had been given. This was also the opie
',ion of the Right Honourable Gentleman the Member for
Edinburgh, for he had said, " There can be no doubt
• hat the intention is that this Secret Committee shall
state to the house, net particular cases, but the general
principles on which the Post-office and other authorities have
acted." The authority, therefore, of the Committee was
ample and comprehensive ; and how had they performed their
du y? Why, they had called before them all the persons living
who had held the office of Secretary of State, and they had also
called two Noble Lords who had filled the office of Lord-Lieu-
tenants for Ireland. The Committee called before them every
person who was calculated to afford them the slightest in-
formation on the subject, arid they came to the conclusion,
which he would venture to say every generous and dispas-
sionate mind would also come to, that of a perfect and com-
plete acquittal of the Right lion. Baronet.—( Cheers. ) Indeed
he (the Solicitor-General) believed that in some respects the
Right Hon. Baronet had improved on the practice of his pre-
decessors. The lion. Member for Finsbury complained that
witness. a which he himself produced were not examined by the
Committee. Those witnesses were not examined, as the Hen.
Member himself chose to impose conditions with respect to
that examination which were quite inconsistent with the duty
he had to perform. The witnesses who were examined before
that Committee gave their evid( nee freely and openly, under the
impression that the evidence taken by the Committee would be
secret. Yet now the Hon. Member for Montrose proposed
that the whole of the evidence should be published. He now
came to the Hon. Member for Finsbury and the motion which
he had presented to the House, and which was now under dis-
cussion, together with the amendment of the Noble Lord the
Member for Sunderland. The motion of the lion. Member for
Finsbury was very limited in its character, as it only extended
to a period since 1840. It was obviously intended as a personal
attack on the Right Hon. Baronet, and was made with a view
to continue towards him that odium which must attach to the
power, if it were to attach at all, of opening letters at the Post-
office. It was very hard to overcome a prejudice which had ob-
tained possession of the public mind. The Hon. Member for i
Finsbury knew this, and it was to increase that prejudice that
the present motion hadleten brouelm forward. Did the amendment
of the Noble Lord improve the matter? No. For if the motion was
personal before, it would become ten times more so by the
amendment of the Noble Lord. The Hon. Member for
Finsbury had said that the Noble Lord had taken the matter
out of his hands, and it had become, as the Bon. Gentleman
said, a personal matter between the Government and himself.
Why, it was from the first a personal attack, and it remained
a personal attack. It would appear that the power of opening
letters had been exercised by 1' (Ale Lords and Right Hon.
Gentlemen opposite, and he (the Solicitor-General) would
put it to them how they would have voted if they had been
called upon to answer for the exercise of that posser in some
particular instance? He would call upon them, then, to sym-
pathise with his Right lion. Friend in the situation in which
he was placed. He trusted that there were generous spirits
in that House, who would feel that after the verdict had been
pronounced in favour of the Right Hon. Baronet, he ought
not to be called again to the bar of public opinion, and he
called upon them to resist the amendment of the Noble Lord
and the motion of the lion. Gentleman.—(Cheers. )
Lord JOHN iIUSSELL then rose and said—l feel,
Sir, that I need make no apology to the House for addressing
them on the present occasion. But the Noble Lord; the Mem-
ber for Tyrone, has thought proper to say, that I am to be
blamed because I did not take an earlier of portunity of address-
ing the House on the motion of the lion. Member for Finsbury.
Sir, I felt no such necessity. 'With respect to the question
itself, there had been a Committee appointed last year, which
had received evidence from various secretaries of State, and
before which Committee the Right lion. Gentleman opposite
produced the warrants of various Secretaries of State who had
preceded him. I was examined before that Committee, and I
gave as fully as my knowledge and recollection would serve me,
an account of what I had done when Iliad the honour of filling
the office of Secretary of State. Such being the case there
could be no inference that I had not taken part in transactions
similar to those of which the Right lion. Gentleman the Secre-
taryacted as my
of State has been accused ; that I had signed warrants
directing the opening of letters, and had
predecessors and successors had done. But, Sir, I did rise last
night in the course of the debate, and it was only by your deci-
sion that my Noble Friend the Member for. Sunderland
ad-
dressed the House.—(Cheers.) I feel no difficulty either in
stating my views of what the practice is, which practice I have
followed, and how far I think the conduct of the Right Hon.
Gentleman opposite is to be justified, and how far there is still
wanting an explanation with regard to a part of that conduct.
With respect to the law of the case, I am not going to give any
opinion further than this, that if the law does not intend that
the Secretary of State should exercise this power, that then, to
unlearned persona, the Act of Queen Anne, and the Act of
Victoria, must be looked upon as only traps.—( Loud cheers.)
When I see that by the Act ~f Anne and the Act of her present
Majesty the clerks of the Post-office are not to open letters
unless by an express warrant in writing, signed by one of the
principal Secretaries of State, what must I, an unlearned
person, conclude but, that without that warrant, such a pro-
ceeding would not take place. And if lam now told that there
are persons of very highs authority who say that such a pro-
cettling is illegal altogether, I then say you should have
made your law clear. Yon should have placed clearly on
the statute book some law, which it was easy to do, prohibit-
ing all persons from opening letters of any party whatsoever;
then no person filling that office could doubt what duty he
had to do. But Sir, I wish those persons who tell us that
the whole proceedings under these warrants are illegal, would
explain exactly what was the purpose of that Act, and
what was the exact position of those voluntary post-offices
which the Queen's post-office at that time was intended to
supersede? What would have been the case in law of a
person in the City of London, who had engaged to send
letters all over the country, and it was found that some of
those letters bad been opened by him, and afterwards trans-
mitted? How far his conduct would. be punishable—whether
he would be subject to a criminal proceeding, of which I
cannot find any notice in the books on criminal law—to
what civil proceedings he would be liable—what would be
the nature of the civil action, and in what manner he
would be punished? Upon that question I profess to give
no opinion whatever. But if the whole proceeding under
these warrants is illegal—if we live under a state of the law
not ;hitherto understood, I wish that question were cleared
up for the benefit of those who act upon what is pre-
sumed to be the law of the country. Then as to
the practice. There is no doubt that when, last year,
it was discovered, owing to the questions of the Hon. Gen-
dermal the Member for Finsbury, letters had been opened in
the Post-office, that great indignation was expressed, and that
a most undue share of that public indignation was directed
against the Right Hon. the Secretary of State for the Home
Department.--(Hear, hear.) For my own part, I can only
say, with my Hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield that, as
far as I can see, the conduct of the Right Hon. Gentleman has
been like that of his predesessors in office, and that the power
was used generally for the purpose of defeating con-
spiracies and preserving the peace of the country.—( Hear. )
When my Hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield says that he
counted the number of warrants issued for three years pre-
ceding the accession of the Right Hon. Gentleman to office,
and that they amounted to forty, while for three tears that the
Right lion. Gentleman was in office the nurrber was forty- '
four, he concluded, rationally and justly as I think, that such a
difference showed no material alteration in his conduct as Se-
cretary of State, and was no such violent exercise of power as '
called for any censure on the Right Hon. Gentleman.—( Hear,
hear, from the Ministerial benches.) But with regard to the '
power itself, when I heard person', moved by that indigna-
tion which affects the public, say that no letters ought to be
opened which pass through the Post-office, I own I felt great
doubt whether it would be safe and wise to act upon that
view.—( Hear.) It may be that such power should be
scarcely ever exercised—it may be, that those who preceded
the Right Hon. Gentleman, the Secretary of State, and the
Right Hon. Gentleman himself, exercised it more frequently
than was necessary, yid, in some instances erroneously, but,
on the other hand, to declare by Act of Parliament or resolu-
tion that any person concerned in a conspiracy against the
State, or in levying civil war against the Queen, should be
entitled to the use of the public Post-office, that I contend
would be a dangerous course fur the security of the public
peace.—( Cheers.) And you would take away this power
from the Secretary of State! I hope, before you do so, that
you will well consider what means are left to the Secretary of
State for the preservation of the public peace.—( Hear,
hear.) We all know that not a great many years ago, when
Lot d Sidmouth held the office of Secretary of State, he
thought it a fair and legitimate means of preserving the public
peace, to employ the instrumentality of spies. My belief is
that those spies more readily cause than prevent those risings
and tumults which they are employed to detect—
( Hear, hear)—and that persons have been convicted for con-
duct which they pursued in consequence of the instigations
of those spies. I consider the employment of spies not only
objectionable, but dangerous and contrary to the spirit of a free
country.—( Loud cheers.) But when you say that you will
enact that letters are not to be opened, will you also enact that
there shall be no employment of spies ?—( Hear, hear.) At
present that rests in the discretion of the Secretary of State.
I take a view of this subject which induces me to think that
spies ought not, in the most dangerous state of the country, to
be engaged.—( Heer,hear.) And when a Chartist, who took
a chief lead in the eournels of those who were called Physical
Force Chartists, offered me his services to detect the designs of
his fellow-Chartists, I refused his offer.—(Loud cheers.) I be-
lieve that the employment of spies does not at present exist, but
you have no sanction by law from that service—you have no
declaration on the part of the House—you have no enactment
which secures you against the employment of spies, or that the
secret service money at the disposal of the Secretary of State
;pay not be used in that way for the service of the State ; and
if you enact that there shall be no opening of letters, can you
be secure, can you be ceeta'sn, that the Secretary of State,
anxious for the preservation of the 1)014.. peace, feeling him-
self re.ponsible for its maintenance, will not have recourse to
those means, which I think far more objectionable than the
opening of letters which may be sent through the Post-office.
Hear, hear.) A spy is a man who goes amongst persons
and instigates them to commit acts, which but for him
they might not have committed. When you open a letter
you find the designs of a man expressed by himself
at all events,—(. Hear.) Such being the general state of the
a f.'prw,4l4lnt Iva, inarle last year of the opening of a letter,
which did not apper to be justifijd 4y the 00.4-ppry of State
upon any grounds, either of
.a defence of the country from in-
corof fArofm:
i%afafozrzzgn
il
a case enemY: Hear, hear.) That
was rii al
the case
referred
to with some
pleasantry by the Noble Lord, the Member for Tyt one, but
which seems to me to be worthy of the gravest, if not the most
t danger,
melancholy re flection.—( Cheers.) As far as we can make
cst Listory of this case, it is as follows ; —information was
e'ver esilitheite a suesgesitoie wEee psiesle, that Maezini was at
the head of a party which sought to'oe'ertiirre the eesisting Ge-
vernment of Italy, and especially the Government of the Papal
State. In consequence of this information the letters of Max.