The Sun.
London, England, 1845-05-22 00:00:00

NEWARK AND SHEFFIELD LINE.

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Mr. Devonport showed that the traffic proved before the Com-
mittee differed very considerably from that given to the Board
of Trade.

Mr. Fowler, civil engineer, was employed on the Sheffield and
Lincolnshire, and also on the Great Grimsby Railway. The wit-
ness was asked whether the Sheffield and Lincolnshire would not
be a better line than the one under consideration, when the answer
was interrupted by
Mr. BAINES, Q.C., who contended that any evidence as to the
merits of that railway could not be received, it not being classed
with the other lines to he considered by that Committee.

Mr. WITATELEY rejoined, and the room was cleared to allow the
Committee to deliberate on the matter.

(LEFT SITTING.)

Group X.
LONDON AND YORK LINE.

This Committee assembled to-day at the usual hour in Corn.
mittee-room No. 8.

Mr. PAGET handed in the agreement spoken of yesterday between
the Forsdyke Navigation Company and the London:and York Com-
pany, by which it appeared that the terms of the agreement were
that the latter should pay the former a sum equal to the amount of
the net benefits for three years.
The CusressaN announced that when this case should be disposed
of, the Committee would take up the Cambridge and Lincoln line.
Mr. Pearson, chief shipping clerk to Mr. Angus, of Selby, de-
posed that his employer had 18 schooners, of 150 tons each, plying
between Selby and London. They conveyed all sorts of goods,
such as coals, provisions, and the iron manufactures of Lowmore
ironworks. Mr. Angus's vessels convey about 20,000 tons of goods
annually from London to Selby, and about 28,000 tons from Selby
to London. The voyage occupies about eight days. The goods
coming to Selby were unshipped there, and sent on to Leeds, where
they were reloaded for London.

Mr. Joseph Spence, glass manufacturer and chemist, at York--
Sends glass to Grantham, Newark, Lincoln, Gainsborough, Don-
caster, Selby, Stamford, Boston, Louth, Norwich, London,
&c. ; the description of glass is flint and bottle glass. Travel.
lers visit these places from his house about four times a year; it
would be a very great advantage to have railway communication to
those places from York.

To Mr. Tarrur—lt would be quite a matter of indifference to
him whether the glass went by branches or a direct line.
Here ttie Committee held a short consultation, and when it had
concluded

The CHAIRMAN said the Committee had requested him to ex-
press a hope that the remainder of the evidence would be made as
brief as possible, for they had now been engaged 15 or 16 days on
this one line alone; and as they had several other Bills yet to die.
pose of, the Committee did rely on counsel that no evidence ;cull('
be laid before them which would be mere repetition of what they
had already heard, or which would not in fact be deemed very
material.

Mr. PAGET said he would endeavour to do so, and hoped to
be able to conclude the general traffic evidence to-day.
Mr. Joseph Waters, agent to Mr. Hunt, of Sheffield, merchant
—7 he weekly average tonnage of goods from Sheffield to London
was 80 tons of all sorts of goods, and the expense was 655. per
ton. The annual tonnage of goods from Sheffield to Hull was
13,000 tons, and the cost per ton was 20s. by rail, and 10s. by
canal. The cost per ton from Sheffield to London by
railway and canal by Derby was 45a.. The saving to be
effected by the proposed line would be very considerable.
The mode of conveyance from Sheffield to Lincoln was by land ;
the expense of transit at present was 30s. per ton; the cost by the
proposed London and York line would be 11s. Bd. per ton. From
Sheffield to Lincoln, by Boston and Hull, the expense
was at present 405., and by the Forsdyke navigation,
40s. By the proposed line it would be 15s. From
Sheffield to Spalding the route was by Leicester and
across the country, and was very indirect. The cost was 80s. and
50s. per ton, the average was 60s. By the proposed line it
would be 565. sd. From Sheffield to Cambridge there were
various modes of transit by Leicester the cost was I Os.,
and by London about the same; by Hull it was 605.,
and by Northampton about the same ; the average was
about 70s. ; by the proposed line the expense would be 225.
To Repford from Sheffield, the mode of transit was by land only.
The present cost was 205. ; by the proposed line it would be Bs. Bd.
From Sheffield to Huntingdon the mode of conveyance was by land.
The present cost was 70s. ; by the-proposed line it would be 20s.
From Sheffield to Hull by rail the present cost was 20s. ; by the
proposed line it would be 158. From Sheffield to London the pre-
sent cost was 555. ; by the proposed line it would be 375. Bd.
There was a considerable traffic between Manchester and the
eastern counties, but he had not the particulars.

Mr. John Boys, manager for Messrs. Watson, the largest mer-
chants in Manchester—The proposed London and York line
would afford great facilities for the transit of goods from Man-
chester to Norwich, and all the towns in the midland counties ;
the traffic between Manchester and those towns was very extensive.
(LEFT SITTING.)

Group F.
The Committee re-assembled this day at twelve o'clock, in
Room No. 11, present the Right Hon. F. Shaw, Chairman, Mr. V.
Stuart, Mr. Lockhart, Mr. Bramston, and Mr. Drummond.
LONDON, WORCESTER, AND SOUTH STAFFORDSHIRE

RAILWAYS.
Mr. WIIITMORH addressed the Ccmnsittee on behalf of the
Birmingham Canal Company. lie would trouble the Committee
with very few remarks, His clients were opposed to both projects,

Mr. Cavendish, M.P. for North Derbyshire, was called to show
that the Duke of Devonshire's opposition did not arise from any
interest he had in the Staveley colleries, but simp!y because the
present project would materially injure his seat of Hardwick.

the Great Western and the London and Birmingham—both we 1r
called the South Staffordshire projects. These projects would ma.
terially injure the property of the canal, though no railway could
ever take up all or anything 'ike its gross trade. The Committee
would see by the map before them, that the various windings
of that canal gave accommodation to the country whiab n
railway could give. That canal ran 130 miles through the
country, and carried at the rate of 34,000,000 of tons an-
nually. The receipts amounted to nearly 135,000/. per annum.
That Company had a power over the land on either side of their
canal, to the extent of 100,000 yards. He stated these facts to
prove to the Committee that his clients were no mean opponents to
the projected railways, but were deeply entitled to the considera-
tion of the Committee. Now, with respect to both lines of rail'
way, he must confess that the one least objectionable to the Canal
Company, and most adapted for the country, more especially
ing to Dudley, was the Birmingham line.
Mr. CocEsuaN—l would ask my Learned Friend if, since last
night, his clients had not sold themselves to the London and Bir"
mingham Company
Mr. WHITmoBE would inform his Learned Friend that nothing
of the sort had occurred.
Mr. COCKBURN would not have put the question but for having
good authority. What he meant was, did not the Canal Coin Pal
sell their canal to the London and Birmingham Railway Compaq
Mr. Wun rmoitE had to state, in explanation, that why he re-
quested the Committee yesteiday to gi, e him till this day to ad'
dress them, was, that there was then a probability of his
coming to an understanding with the London and Blnningball
Company, and he was now in a position to state that they 113"
settled their differences. Great
Air. COCKBURN—I guessed rightly. The ,case for the
Western Company was then gone into, Alc. Cockburn reserving n''
speech till the conclusion of the evidence. ata
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Mr. William Matthews, ironmaster at Staffordshire, 00d-1
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collieries and pig iron, was, also an extensive sharehOlder 11l c
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Felt the want of a railway communication, and had no doubt
the Great Western Compy would be the best line for the
portant districts of Staffordshire. clients

(LIUT iIITTINO.)

PARLIAMENTARY BUSINESS'
WEDNESDAY, MAY 21.
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Guildford, Chichester, and Portsmouth Railway. •
Southampton and Dorchester Railway.
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