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London, England, 1844-05-01 00:00:00

Stranters were then ordered to,' NVithdrar, and the
House divided- .-The nunibers

For the motion
Against it
Majority
Immediately upon the re-opening of the gallery,
strangers were again Ordered to withdraw but DO divi-
sion took place,-and on ourfre:admission' we- underatood'
that the Report was received.
CHESTER; AND HOtt-trEApFALWAY.
Mr. GLADSTONE 'in m4hig,;purailant to notice
that he 'had given, that Sir George Clerk be" added to
the .Comiiiittee on 'the Cheiter encl Holyhead Railway
Bill; took occasion to eXplain, aa,pie,appointment.of a
Member holding Office'tO -a.,COniniittee.,was...rather of-
rare occurrence, that it was necessary to., have certain..
publid interests represented on the C9namittee for
the adjustment of certain , points . connected with
the Bill ; and ` henee he proposed the
dition of Sir George Clerk to the COmmittee..
He regretted that he was obliged make this motion
later than usual, but at the sante, time he believed no in-
convenience would arise,' becanse his Hen. Friend, if,
appointed by the House, would not interfere in the ge:
neral discussion as to the, course of, the railroad, but-
would confine himself to stating t4:6 views of Mr. Walker.-
" On the question being put,. „
Captain MANGLES said that he.belreved it was most •
•
unusual and contrary to the rule upon which Commit-
tees were constituted, to make. shell an aPpointinent at
such a period. He'understoodit the Com-
mittee would come to a dedisiOn that gternoon, but if.
the Hon. Gentleman was 'appointed, the Committee
Would be -obliged to sit for almiger period, and the,
expenses would be thereby increased., The Committee
Would give as much consideration to any representation
on the part of the Government,.without the lion. Gen-
tlemen, as they would if he. Were present.
Sir R. PEEL said they were now: going to establish
one of the most imp-Rant lines of railway in the coun-'
try,- by • which 'Dublin WOW& be lmougbt within four-
teen. or•• fifteen. -hours 'of -ilie-in'eti:opolis. The Go-
-vernment had already been at great ;expense in re.
Terence- 'to --this•-tine-'they sent naval,- officers
to report upcii the nature of the coast and har-
bour, and engineer's of the highest eminence to report
'-upon the•line. A report had. been' made which was of
very considerable value 'and iniP9rquce., If theclinc.
was to be established, andll'it was to have the con-
cnrrence of the Government, and to be followed by
au.' expenditure of two, or three, or - four hundred
thousand pounds for the purpose of making
Holyhead a perfectly safe ,liarbour, he
,(Sir, R. peel)
did feel that the Pubfid had such an interest: in it as to
justify, the Government in dimirliw to be represented hi
the Committee-upon" the Bill. But '' he would ask,
bad Mr.- ' - Walker, one" OF •• • ihe gentlemen ern-
ployed by. the •Govertiment, "been been examined' by the
Committee ? • • -(Captaitt 'Mangles was, understood to say
" No."). • Then- he mist say • the 'Government were most
anxious that-he-should be examined: *SO: important did.
he consider this proposed railway to the public that he-
felt the Goiernment should have a representative in
the Committee on this Bill,

LABOUCHERE fully agreed with the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir- Robert peel)x• that it ,was of the:
greatest consequence that, in Committees, where the
public interests were directly involved, the,Government
should have a representative. He recollected, that
when the- Liverpool' Docks Bill was in Committees he
had felt it his duty, as' President of the Board of Trade-,
to apply to 'the ' ComMittee ,of Selection to;' be
allowed to have a member of the Govern eat
upon that Committee. And the Right Honouriable
Gentleman should, in the present instance, have applied
at tho proper time to the Committee of Selection :and
trot to that House. He doubted whether the House ihad
the power to appoint a MeMher to the COmmittee, land
that if one were appointed as a representative of; the
Government; he should have the power to -vote, On
this point, th&Speaker would, perhaps, assist, them with
his'opinion. .
The SPEAKER (as we understood) stated that he
apprehended the Right Hon. Baronet could not vot iC
the Committee without signing the declaration.
' Mr. MARSHALL, wished to know, from the rrhsi-
dent of the Board of Trade, the reason for proposing the
Right Hop. Baronet at the present time • -
Sir R. PEEL made a few Observations that were,-
m_

..,_
audible in the gallery.
Capt. MANGLES said if there would be no expeniive
delay in the addition of Sir George Clerk, he should pot
object to the appointment. , I
Mr. HUME thought they ought to be obliged to he
Government for proposing the Rig.ht.Hon. Baronet. '
Mr. F. SHAW' considered that it, was very import nt
for the interests of Ireland that the Right Hon. Gen le-'
man should be on the Committee. . , 1
Mr. FRENCH considered that the railroad could
never be constructed unless they obtained the assistance
of the Government ; and, therefore, he thought it mast
important that the Right Hon. Gentleman should be lon
the Committee. ,

The m6tion was then agreed to.
Mr. GLADSTONE moved that Mr. Wral4er's Rep
be referre&to the 'Committee.,--. AgrQato.
NOTTrNGIIASI IMPROVEMENT BILLS.

On the 'motion 'of Mr. T. DITNCOMgE, the Nbtti -
ham (West Croft Canal) Improvement Bill; and the•W
Croft Nottingham Inclosure Bill; were respectively r
a second time. •
- VENTNOR IMPROVEMENT BILL.

The Ventnor Imrovement 13,111. Wits read a second ti
'MESSAGE FROM. THE LORDS.. .•-
• Messengers from the Loras brought,down certain Bi
NOTICES 'OF:MOTION.—DETACEIED PARTS

,dourrriEs
Mr. COLVILE gave. notice that in Committee
the detached- parts of Counties Bill, he should prop,
certain amendments. •

DUCHY' OF CORNWALL.
Sir R. PEEL gave notice that,,,this day fortnight,
would move for leave to bring in a Bill for defining ai
regulating the rights of the Duchy. of Cornwall.
IMPORT Du'riEs•

Mr. COBDEN postponed to this day week, the motif
of which he had given notice for this evening, on tl
subject of the Import Duties. -
THE FRANCHISE.

Mr. SHARMAN CRAWFORD gave z et'e e
would on TueVlay, the 14th of May, propose a measu
for the'extension of the franchise.
WELSH TOLLS.
Colonel WOOD postponed to. Wednesday, May 1
the motion of which he had given notice on the subjQ
of tolls on lime in Woks.

Captain PECHELL wished to know from the Rig t
Hon. Gentleman, the Cancellor of the-Exchequer wh -
thei any additional facility had been afforded to tho
persons; whose income being under 1501., had been tax
for the income tax, to enable them to get back the su
deducted from their small incomes. .
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said th t
the greatest care had been taken to expedite t
returning of their money to those pp,rties. Nnereflela
had occurred it 'arose from the parties themselves n
coming forward. If the Hon. Gentleman could poi
'out any case where unnecessary delay had occurred, h
(the Chancellor of the Exchequer)
,should be happy t
remedy it. •

JAVA SUGAR.
Mr. D. BARCLAY wished to know from the Right Hon
Gentleman (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) whether it wa
his intention to admit Java eugar into this country upon tb
same favourable footing that the sugar of Manilla and Sian;
was to be admitted ? There was some doubt upon the point
in consequence of the high duties imposed on articles of Britizl•
industry in Java ; and it would be well to have the doub
cleared up before the departure of the Overland Mail.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
he would take an early opportunity of bringing the subject et
the sugar duties before the House, and he would then explain
fully what were his intentions.