The Sun.
London, England, 1845-04-26 00:00:00

SUPPLY.

On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE-
QUER, the House went into a Committee of Ways and Means,
and voted a grant of Exchequer Bills to the amount o,
9,379,000/.

The House then resumed, and the Chairman reported ac-
cordingly.
The Physic and Surgery Bill was after a short discussion
read a second time.

The College of Surgeons and Physicians Bill wus also read
a second time.

The Infeftment (Scotland) Bill was read a third time and
passed.
The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the
House adjourned at five minutes past Nine o clock.

RAILWAY COMMITTEES

(YESTERDAY.)

Group No. 2.
LEEDS AND MANCHESTER LINE.
FRIDAY, FIFTH DAY.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
The CHAIRMAN announced that the Committee had decided that
they considered the preamble of the Bill of the Huddersfield and
Manchester Company proved.
When tt is announcement was made, a long argument ensued as
to which line should next be taken. The discussion occupied a
considerable time, and the counsel of the differen tprojects kept up
a constant cross fire of contradiction, which ended in
The CHAIRMAN stating that the Committee had decided that the
question now before them was one of so complex a nature, that
they should take time to consider it, and consult some authority.
In the meantime they would proceed to fill up the preamble of the
Bill they had approved of.
The clauses of the Bill were then read and agreed to, until clause
25 was read, which was relative to the charges to be made for tolls;
but the further consideration of it was postponed owing to the
House of Commons hating, the night before, made a rule regulating
the maximum sum at which toll charges should be made.
Mr. TALBOT asked the Committee to go out of the order of the
clauses, as he wished to examine Mr. Gisborne, M.P., as a witness to
certain facts in reference to the contents of a forward clause re.
lating to a certain canal.
Mr. Gisborne was then examined—Was a trustee to the Staley.
bridge and Duckenfield Canal. All the sites on the banks of the
Ashton Canal were taken up by steam mills ; the reason of that is,
that the Act contains clauses to enable mill owners to build them,
and take water from the canal for condensing, and return it again
to the canal, without charge; the Huddersfield Canal Com-
pany refused to allow a miller to take water from their canal
even at a charge, and therefore the miller declined to• build, as
he would be at the Company's mercy, either as to their amount
of charges, or the sum they would expect for passing pipes under
the canal to the river.

Cross.examined—A great number of the mill owners have pur.
chased the right to take water from the canal.

Mr. BAINEs said that the Canal Company did not seek for any
new powers whatever; but the owner of the land, Lord Stamford,
expected to be paid a fair sum for his ground. If the clause con.
tained some provision fixing the compensation which the Canal
Company ought to receive, they would be satisfied ; but they con.
ceived they were in justice entitled to some compensation.
Mr. TALBOT said he conceived it would be unjust to I 'c his
clients to do now what had never been asked before.

The CHAIRMAN said the Committee could not go the length
required by Mr. Talbot; and, therefore, it would be well if so ne
amount could be agreed to.
The Committee suggested that 2s. 6d. would be a sufficient
compensation. .
Mr. BAINES protested that it was not a fair offer.
The CHAIRMAN said, perhaps, then, the Canal Company would
not object to allow mill owners to pass pipes under the canal.
Eventually, the Committee left it to the counsel on both sides to
settle the terms amongst themselves.
Counsel, however, could not agree on the terms, and the
matter was again referred back to the Committee

The Committee decided that the tax should be ss. on every
horse power.

The remaining clauses, with amendments, were then agreed to,
and the Committee adjourned.

Group T.
SYSTON AND PETERBOROUGH RAILWAY.
(Continued from our Afterno( n Edition of yesterday.)
Mr. W. Babling's examination closed the evidence in support
of Lord Harborough's petition, when after an address from Mr.
WIIATELEY, who had waited to speak after, instead of before the
examination of his witnesses, and a brief reply from Mr. HILDYARD,
the room was cleared.

On its being re-opened, the CHAIRMAN intimated that the Com-
mittee considered the preamble proved, subject to a re-consideration,
and that Lord Harborough be invited to fall in with the views and
plans of the Company. The Committee then adjourned till Mon-
day at Twelve o'clock.

Sub-Committee (No. 3.)
GLASGOW HARBOUR' UNION RAILWAY.
(Conf Mae d from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)
Mr. Gordon, the engineer of the projected line, underwent a
lengthened cross-examination, to prove that the route of the rail-
way, as delineated on the plans and sections, did not correspond
with the description given in the published notices.
Mr. BURKE contended that the preamble of the Bill was quite
consistent with their notice. It was true that they had abandoned a
portion of their line, but the original notices were so diffuse in their
description and detail, that the line set out and specified in the Bill
was amply, if not minutely, described in them.
The CHAIRMAN ordered the room to be cleared, and the Com-
mittee, after a short consultation, decided that the standing orders
had not been complied with.

Group D.

BLACKBURN, DARWEN AND BOLTON RAILWAY

(Continued from our Afternoon Edition.)

Mr. Vignolles was then examined by Mr. CALVERT, and cross.
examined by Mr. WEBsTErt— He stated that he had surveyed the
whole line, and was satisfied with it as at present laid out. No
part of the line was proposed to be worked by assistant or sta-
tionary engines, and no turnpike road was intended to be crossed
on the level. The line leavcs Blackburn near the centre of the

town, and thence proceeds over the Leeds Canal, passing through

the valley near Darwen, where there is a tunnel nearly
a mile in length ; it then goes on to Little Bolton,
where it joins the Manchester and Bolton Railway. The
entire length of the line is 131 miles, and the principal
gradients are 1 in 7.2 and 1 in 75. Several embankments were
necessary, each of which would form the side of a reservoir. The
total cost of the line, including land, ecc., would be 293,672./. 13s. 7d.
The estimated expense of working was 40 per cent, on the capital.
There were a million and a half yards in the embankments, which
would cost in working 100. a cubic yard. The cost of via.
ducts, together with tunnels, would be 193,4994 Th
greatest height of the principal viaduct, which would be
erected over Bradshaw Brook, was 115 feet. There were three
viaducts, which together would measure 555 yards. The largest
viaduct was 140 yards in length. The cost of bridges, including
viaducts, would amount together to 89,9304 The upper works and
fences were calculated at 60,313/. No allowance in the estmated
expenditure had been made for stations. The quantity of iron which
would be required for the purposes of the railway amounted to ten
tons, to be purchased at the rate of 70/ per ton. The line would
be worked by a heavy engine calculated for severe gradients.
Mr. Dargon, the contractor, was then called, and said he was
of opinion that the estimates for the line were correct, and he
would most willingly undertake the work at the present estimates.
Mr. Robinson proved the assents and dissents_

Mr. Hutchinson said, that the value of land and buildings to be
taken for the purposes of the line was reckoned at 27,0001., land
the quantity of ground required would be 135 acres.
After the examination of these witnesses, Mr. Merewether
stated that his case was finished.

Mr. Sergeant WRANGII/01 then rose and stated that it was his
duty to state the reasons which he had to offer on behalf of the
Accrington line in opposition to the proposed railway. ne con-
tended that a case had not been made out by the promoters to
warrant the expenditure of so much capital, and that the result of
the receipts would not afford a remunerating profit, and that the
lines being competing, there was no fair expectation that there
would be sufficient traffic to support them both.

The CHAIRMAN here interrupted Mr. Sergeant Wrangham and
said, the Committee were of opinion that the proposed railways
could not be looked at in the light of competing lines,
but were simply co-existent, and therefore Mr. Sergeant
Wrangham, if he appeared to oppose the Blackburn and Darwen
Railway as a competing line, was not competent to be beard.
Mr. Sergeant .WRANGIIAM, in reply, stated that it had been de-
cided by the Classification Committee that were the railways were
included in the same group, it was allowable for counsel to offer
evidence in opposition. He then recapitulated the grounds of his
objection, and said if the proposed line were permitted to pass the
public would be the sufferers.
. . _

The CHAIRMAN then requested Mr. Sergeant IWratigham to
specify the particular points which he intended to oppose.
Mr. Sergeant WRANGIIAM said that considerable injury would
result to the Company for which he appeared, and that the traffic
from Blackburn to Manchester, which his line intended to carry,
would be materially interfered with by the Darwen line. On these
grounds he took his locus stand**.

The , CHAIRMAN observed that the Learned Gentleman bad
better call his witnesses, which, however, after some hesitation,
he declined doing, and said that, after what had fallen from the
Committee, he thought it would be useless to pursue his opposition
further, and he would at once throw up his brief, as, in the exer.
cisc of his discretion, that would be the best means of sparing fur.
ther expense and much unnecessary trouble.

The preamble was then admitted to have been proved, and Mr
Sherwood, the agent, proceeded with the clauses, which were al
admitted.

Mr. P,GET, at the close of the proceedine,s, made an application
to the Committee for leave to oppose the t:tith clause in the
Accrington Bill, which had been passed yesterday in his absence.
After considerable discussion it was decided that Mr. Paget's
motion could not be entertained, as the clause had already re-
ceived the Chairman's signature as having passed.
A messenger from the Commons then entered, and announced
that the Speaker was at prayers.

The Committee adjourned till Monday at half past two o'clock.
The title of the Accrington, Burnley, and Colne Railway has
subsequently been altered to that of the East Lancaihire.•

(Committee S )
The Committee re.asseuabled at two o'clock this day; present
Mr. Stuart Wortley, Chairman ; Mr. Ewart, Mr, B. Hugbes, Mr,
Ainsworth. and Mr, Wrightson.

The Committee proceeded with the Corporation ProtOt'i"
clause in the

BELFAST AND BALLYMENA RAILWAY.
Mr. GREGG submitted this clause. The effect is to bind the
Railway Company not to carry goods landed between Whitehead
and Carrickfergus to any point nearer to the town of Belfast than
one mile, under a penalty of 20/. for every breach of such clause.
The clause was agrce.l to.
The CHAIRMAN said that the next clause for consideration was
that referring to the tolls and charges.
Mr. M. SMITH, for the promoters, would rather
postpone enter-
ing on that clause for the present, as his clients were not yet Po'
paled to submit a rate in unison with the feeling of the House on
such matters expressed on the previous evening.
Mr. GREGO would submit one more point for the consideration
of the Committee. The railway would affect part of the harbour
of the port of Belfast, and he trusted that a deviation of 100 Yami.
on the outside of the embankment of the line, touching that part o!
the port, would be agreed to by the promoters.
Mr. Walker, the Admiralty engineer, was examined on
of the opponents, to prove the necessity of the railway cornPah/
binding themselves not to take more than 100 yards on both 'Wei
of the embankment.
The further consideration of this point was about to be awournei
to Monday, when, at the recommendation of the Committee, it W.'
left to the engineers to agree upon the distance.
Mr. Walker said that, subject to the approval of the Adin."icy. ,„
he would allow the promoters sufficient sitzce on each
of the line for the slopes and embankments.
red
The CHAIRMAN said the remaining clauses would be considered
on Monday.
The Committee rose at four o'clock.

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