The Sun.
London, England, 1844-09-03 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY MORNING, SEPTEMBER 3, .844.

The universal belief of the profession was, as long as
he could remember, the same as that which was con-
tained in the report of the case Grant and Astell, and as
laid down by Lord Mansfield. The invariable answer
given in Court to an application similar to that which
had been made to their Lordships was, that it was
immaterial to enter into the discussion, because there
was one good count in the indictment. If they were
to search the reports they would find many
criminal cases in which judgment had been
pronounced upon an indictment in which
there were one or more defective counts,
and yet it had never occurred that such an objection
had been made the ground of argument in a Court of
Error. This objection had always escaped the notice
of the most acute counsel and the most astute judges.
He thought that some of the difficulties were real,
but that they were not all important in the present
case. The law proposed no perfect rule—it knew
that nothing was perfect, and it adopted the best rule
it could. The question then was, was there
any analogy between civil and criminal cases—he
thought there was not. The course pursued in civil
cases by the law was reasonable and just, but in cri-
minal cases it would be most unjust. In all cases,
the Court of Error ought to see that the judg-
ment which was brought before it in error was
right or wrong. He thought if the Court of
Error found that there were good counts in the in-
dictments upon which punishment had peen inflicted,
they could not say that the Court below had made a
mistake. If such was to be the case, many defendants
who would be properly punished would escape. The
Learned Judge then referred to the case of the
King v. Young and the King v. Mason, the former
of which he considered almost a decided decision on
the point. He thought there was quite sufficient to
support the judgment of the Court below on this
point. As to the second branch of the 3d question,
it depended on the reasonable construction of the
words of the judgment, which was that
the defendant was to be imprisoned. Now,
he saw no solid distinction between a
charge improperly stated, but properly found, and
a charge properly stated and improperly found. It
must also be borne in mind that a Court of Error
could not reverse a judgment upon the conjecture
that it was wrong. He thought, in the present
case, it was impossible to say with any certainty
that there was any error. Whether the punishment
was discretionary or not made no distinction. For
those reasons, therefore, his humble answer to their
Lordship's questions, both as to the 3d and 11th, was
in the negative.
Mr. Baron PARKE, in delivering his judgment, said
that, with regard to the 3d question proposed by their
Lordships, he regretted that, after fully considering
it, he could not bring his mind to concur with the
majority of his brethren respecting it. There
were two counts of the indictment bad, there was no
legal finding on three, the jury having found the
parties guilty of more than one offence upon counts
which charged them with one only, and the judgment
was that the defendant for his offences aforesaid be
fined and imprisoned. But it could not be said
how much of the punishment was awarded
fir the offences of which the parties were not legally
guilty. There were two modes by which apparently
this error might be rectified—the first was, that the
court below had. awarded punishment only upon the
good counts ; the second was, that the same punihment,
the same imprisonment, and the same fine was inflicted
for each and every offence. With regard to the first,
it appeared to him that the Court must he taken to
have given judgment on the counts which were good,
and on those counts only. With regard to the second,
it could not be supposed,. from the language of
the record, whatever might be said of the sentence
of imprisonment, that the same fine was in.
flicted for each and every offence. Prima facie parts
of the sentence was given for one offence and part for
another, and the Court of Error could not
apportion it, as they did not know the
facts for which the fine was imposed.
There was a prevailing opinion that one good count
in an indictment would support a judgment. No
doubt, in practice, judgment was often passed
without adverting to the counts, and the
judgment was never entered on the record,
unless where it was required for a special plea,
or for a writ of error. That opinion appeared to him
to have grown up without adequate grounds. The
rarity of writs of error in criminal cases was the reason
why the attention of the profession Lad not been ,rmch
called to these cases, and hence the opinion had been
suffered to pass unquestioned. The dicta of Lord
Mansfield and of Chief Justice Eyre had been al-
luded to, but in his opinion, after giving the matter
the most anxious consideration, the utmost that the
opinions of those Learned Judges went to was
this, that when a general verdict was re-
turned it was sufficient to enable the Court
at once to proceed to pass sentence. In the
case before Chief Justice Eyre, as the punishment
was a capital one, he was never called on to consider
the point. In the case of the King v. Young
the objection which had been taken in the
present case was not available, because in
that cise the defendant had been sentenced
to a punishment in accordance with the provisions of
the statute, and no part of that sentence could
be ascribed to the bad counts. He doubted,
therefore, if the received opinion was so
established by usage as to compel its adop-
tion. Allusion had been made to the inconvenience
which would arise if that opinion were decided to be
erroneous. He could not see in what that incon-
venience would consist. The only result would be
this, that the defendants being entitled to an acquittal
on all bad counts, the counsel for the prosecution
would have to examine the record to see that judg-
ment was not entered upon the bad counts.
For these reasons, notwithstanding the respect which
he entertained for the opinions of his brethren, he
was compelled to differ from the majority of them on
these points, and to answer the third and eleventh
questions in the affirmative.
Lord Chief Justice TINDAL said that Mr. Justice
Coleridge (as we understood) was unavoidably absent
from illness, but that he had sent his written opinion,
in which he stated his concurrence with the majority
of the Judges.
The LORD CHANCELLOR—My Lords, I move that
the further consideration of this question be postponed
to Wednesday next.

haps as frail in my nature as others, and would use the
same means to attain the same end. I aspire, however,
to gain public fame, public respect, and public approba-
tion. If I can achieve this I shall have attained all I
seek for, This is my ambition—let other men follow
theirs. They may ridicule the magnificence of my
aspirations, and endeavour to taint the purity of my mo-
tives. Let them do so : they will not induce me to
alter my course. I seek no pecuniary reward ; I
have ample reward in the generous, the honest, the
confiding support of a thorough English constitu-
ency. If I have not an independent constituency, where
am I to look for one ? ',Where is the proud Baron,
or the many-acred Squire, who can i uperioesly
say to you, " Return me this man or that as your repre-
sentative?" You are no political sham, but an honest
and independent constituency, equal in intelligence to
one half of the Members of the House of Commons. I
met you first, perhaps, in a great measure by accident ;
but I had not long been among you before I said to my-
self; " I have now found a society of enlightened men in
whom I can confide, and if they place confidence in me,
the smiles or frowns of a Minister will have no effect on
my eonduct."—(Cheers.) The miserable insinuations of
third-rate men, who hint that I have been refused a
place. and that the independent course I have taken
against the Ministry arises from disappointment, have
no rffect on me, and I will never take the trouble to
answer them. Sir Robert Peel knows me—we have
been some years on terms of private intimacy, and he
knows me too well to think for a moment that any pecu-
niary circumstances influence my conduct. Let him—
the Minister—once state that in public, and I will answer
the charge, but not till then. No, gentlemen, I aspire
to no petty post or miserable pecuniary benefit—let
those who do obtain them ; they have my consent. I
aspire to rise in the eyes of the public ; and, let who
will be Minister, I will fearlessly follow the dictates of
my own conscience, for I know I can return to my con-
stituents without dread, confident that they will appre-
ciate my motives and support me in my independent ex-
ertions.—(Cheers.) These words, gentlemen, are not
uttered during the heat and excitement of a contested
election—neither are they the bragadocian boastings of
a tavern oration—they are words I wish you to recollect
—words, let me tell you, I have spoken in my place in
the House of Commons to the Prime Minister. No
man has given a more generous, a more disinterested, and
let me add—when in opposition—a more efficient sup-
port ; I have had fr, quent tokens of his private grati •
tude, and during the last session I have received the
public testimony of his respect. I was his supporter
when in adversity—in prosperity I will not be his slave.
(The Honourable Gentleman sat down amid tremendous
cheering.)

Lord BRo-uGnkm—And that the opinions of the
judges be printed.

The motion, with Lord Brougham's addition, was
then put and agreed to, and their Lordships adjourned
till Wednesday.
The galleries and the space below the bar were
crowded during the whole of the proceedings. The
seats at the foot of the Throne were completely occu-
pied by the eldest sons of Peers, and the attendance
of Peers was very numerous. There was a crowd
waiting outside the doors, anxious to hear the result.

MR. D'ISRAELI AND HIS CON-
STITUENTS.
(From the Shropshire Conservative.)
On Monday Mr. Dlsraeli paid-a
visit to Shrewsbury,
to meet his constittierits and explain his Parliamentary
conduct during the past session. The Shrewsbury Con-
servative Club met in the Assembly-room of the Lion
Hotel on Wednesday, Mr. James Whitney, in the chair.
Upwards of 400 electors were present, and the health of
Mr. D'Esraeli being proposed by the chairman, was
drunk with enthusiastic cheering. In replying to the
toast the Hon. Gentleman made a long speech, from
which we can only give brief extracts.
Mr. DlSRAELl—Gentlemen, your respected chairman
has recommended me to your notice as a champion who
came forward to fight your battles in a time of need,
when there was no other candidate to be found, and ge-
nerously acknowledges that that circumstance should he
the foundation of your future support. I cannot but fed
grateful for so flattering a suggestion ; but I am not
desirous myself of claiming your future support from
feelings of past gratitud, , and would rather let my future
conduct be the basis on which you should build your
confidence, and that my claim should ever re- t, not as a
past candidate, but as your present repre•entetive.—
(Cheers.) I soon had an opportunity of having my
promise tested ; for, upon my arrival in London, the
first information I received on entering the lobby of
the House of Commons was, that Government had
determined to force the Canadian Corn Bill through
the House ; and my informant inquired what course
I should adopt. I answered that, however painful it
might be to my feelings to oppose the Ministers, I should
not hesitate for a moment in voting against the measure.
I (lid so ; and a Member of the Government—a Cabinet
Minister—the same evening asked me why I did so ; and
said that the people of Shrewsbury did not care about
the measure. It is possible, gentlemen, that you might
have forgiven my tergiversation had I voted for the mea-
sure. and explained to you my reason for doing so was
the difficulties in which the Conservative Ministers were
placed ,• but I had not the moral courage, nor the immo-
ral audacity, to say one thing to my constituents at
Shrewsbury, and within twenty-four hours vote diame-
trically opposite in London.—(Loud cheers.) This, gen-
tlemen, was the first occasion on which I was under the
painful necessity of opposing my friends, the Conserva-
tive Ministry ; but, as a man of honour I ask you, could
I have done otherwise, or could I have rendered my op-
position less offensive ? At that time there was a most
powerful party arrayed against the Government, and
how easy it would have been for me to have made a vio-
lent and damaging speech against them, and have in-
flamed tho passions of those friends who were then in
opposition ? Such a course of action on my part would
have told with double effect, because I had defended the
FRENCH EXPEDITION TO 'TUNIS.—The French
Ministry on their two previous measures ; but I had no fleet which sailed for the coast of Tunis, to resist the
wish to do so, and I only recorded my silent suffrage Turkish fleet, had its labour for its pains, the Turkish fleet
having never. come nearer Tunis than Beyrout, in
against them. Still, gentlemen, I have been told that
tiSyria, which is 600 or 700 miles distant. The Turkish
my opposition was factious. Does such conduct as that Not
appear factious to you ?—(Cries of " No, no.")
cfee.t consists of one ship of 120 guns, three of 100, three
long after this, a motion of vital importance, I consider,
4, a frigate of 60 pins, two of 44, and a brig of 20;
to the well-being of the working classes, although not a
total, seven linesofebattle ships, three frigates, and a
political measure, was brought forward by a nobleman
brig, carrying 810 guns.
famed for his philanthropy, and in some measure
connected with this county I need scarcely say LOSS OF VALUABLE HORSES. The steam-ship
of Sd, Captain Ce, arri W that I mean Lord Ashley. The motion I speak
Queen
day, after acotlan rough voyage to and from Hved on
amburgh.ednes-
Her
of was for limiting the duration of labour as far
as regards women and children. There is no
cargo home included seventeen baskets plums and four-
subject, gentlemen, on which I have taken a deeper teen head of cattle, three of which had to be slaughtered
on board. Of the valuable cargo of horses which she
interest than the condition of the working classes.
Long before what is called the " condition of the peo-
took out, on Saturday week, we are sorry to state that
ple ' question was discussed in the House of Commons,
she lost ten, in the severe storm of the following clay,
I had employed my pen on the subject. I had long been 120 miles from the Humber. Four belonged to Mr,
aware that there was something rotten in the core of our Strauss, of Vienna, four to Mr. Bamberg, and two to
Mr. Furst nberg. Mr. Strauss's loss included two very
social system. I had seen that while immense fortunes
were accumulating—while wealth was increasing to a large and valuable dark brown mares ; a bay mare with
a long star, which was purchased at a high figure, and
superabundance—and while Great Britain was cited
throughout Europe as the most prosparous nation in the another splendid hunting mare. He has also two other
world—the working classes, the creators of wealth, were horses remaining at Hamburgh, which were so much
injured, as not to be able to travel for a month. Mr.
steeped in the most abject poverty, and gradually sink•
ing into the deepest degradation —(Hear, hear) As I Furstenberg's lot consisted of two fine bay mares, out of
stated before, gentlemen, there is something unsound in a lot of eight, and the remainder will not be able to
leave Hamburgh for a fortnight. Mr. Bamberg, out of
the present state of our social system—one-half the
population is overworked, and the other half under-paid, fourteen horses, besides losing four, had four others
much mutilated and severely injured. We are assured
—(Hear.) It is from these circumstances that we wit.
t
ness the extraordinary scenes of misery and insubordi-
hat the whole of these heavy losses may be attributed
t
nation in the manufacturing districts, and see whole pro- to the overloading of the ship, to meet the wishes of the
vinces in flames in the agricultural.—(Hear.) The noble owners of the horses, who had repeatedly crossed the
German Ocean with valuable studs. A di-lay of three
Lord whom I before menti,,ned had deeply thought on
•heee circumstances ; he had, without political, and cer- or four days would have saved some hundreds of pounds.
tainly witho it factious motives, instituted committees of Of Mr. Strauss's lot of thirty-ene, in the Queen of
inquiry, who had published reports on the condition of Scotland, on her passage to Hamburgh, not one cost less
the labouring classes, full of details so astounding that than 1001., and for several 1501. and 1701. wt re paid.—
Advertiserdoor,they had caused a sensation throughout the entire king-
Hull
UTHAMPTON, SEPT. 1. —The Peninsular and
do, which has never been equalled since the Oriental Company's steamer Royal Tar, Captain Henry publica-
SO
lion of the first report on the slave trade. Upon the
noble Lord bringing forward his measure for reducingM Foster, arrived this day at half-past eight P.., bringing the
the hours of labour of women and children, I, with a fl(llonwinfiemradilast—eafroofmGibraltar, CaadsizolLi:.on,fOopor(t;oi,harand
powerful party, composed of men of all political creeds, Vigo. Her
24th, Cadiz , Lisbon 27th. Ships of war
departureariare
voted in its favour. The Government having been twice lying at Gibraltar—Her Majesty's ship Formidable, 80;
defeated by the Noble Lord, you would have thought Scout, 20; steamers, Hecla and Sydenham ; Acheron, sailed
that they would have bowed to the decision of the 24th, with Malta mail; two Danish frigates and one steamer,
House. But no. A Cabinet Council was held, and Sir one Norwegian corvette, one Sardian corvette, one United
Robert Peel came down to the House and called upon States store ship, and one French steamer. Cadiz—Three
the Members to rescind their votes. I wish to speak French steamers, one American frigate, and one Spanish
c
here with frankness; it has been said by some, that thisorvette. Lisbon—Her Majesty's ship Caledonia, and three
French steamers. Specie on board-11 packages. List of
was an unconstitutional, an illegal, and a violent act of Passengers—Mr.mr Lang, Colosel Dumford, Lieut. Dundass,
Sir Robert Peel. It certainly is not so. Ido not think Beckwith,coa.ihacil r I.lr. Mulca.sten,dtelr. Trupi,‘ Mr. Pridgen, Mr.
it is unconstitutional for a Minister to request the Rouseetn.Varre, Mr.lllaCarthen,
of Commons to reconsider any question upon which Mr. Dunlop, Mr.
swlfeleeand Mr.fr. Porogr
there is a possibility that they might have been mis- CAPTAIN WARNER'S INVENTION. —M. Jobard, of
taken. It certainly is one of the last efforts of a, Mi- Brussels, who has devoted much attention to pyrotechnic
nister; but, the House having rescinded their vote, I works, has communicated to the French Government what
consider that Sir Robert Peel was amply3c justified iti the he states to be the composition of Captain Warner's destruc-
course he pursued.--(Hear, hear. ou do not, am tive power. It consists, he says, of a Congreve rocket, made
sure, consider it factious on nay ,part because I Voted )
in this way :—The head of it is composed of a hollow iron
V
against the Ministry on these occasions—l deeply de- cone, of great strength, containing a kilogramme of fulmi-
nate of mercury, on which is placed the usual charge of the
plored the difficulties they had to contend against, but I
rocket, of which the body is twice as long as those in general
fursoe. He discharges his projectile from a directing tube
could not change my principles because of those diffieulp-
wamt the port- h
hisol e opofrf(tlili
tei
sec
twivessel,ieei l
kt skimming
go on a
laonls.ev
ties.—(Hear, hear.) What, however, was the next step
etlhewiwthavtehse, of this Conservative Government ? In the last throes
and agonies of the Whig Administration, Lord John which support a art , s itselfth in the side of
Russell brought forward a measure which would mate- the enemy's vessel,p where it bursts,gt.when efire reaches the
rially injure the interests of our West India colonists. fulminating powder, and, making an immense opening in it,
j This was done by the expiring Ministry in the hope of sinks it at once. The proper range of this rocket is only
exciting the sympathies of a large and powerful class. three or four miles, but Captain Warner imagines he can
and to endeavour to draw wealth into an impoverished send it five or six by discharging it from a cannon. He does
exchequer. Sir Robert Peel and the Conservative p art not say that he will attain his object in the first attempt,
opposed that Bill, and the Whigs were driven from t)fficy but he will try on until he succeeds.
e
upon it. This is not the place to discuss the merits of CAPTURE OF Two SLAVERS.—Her Majesty's sloop
Star arrived at Ascension on the 7th of July from
the
eßill t i
~0 s o I
What
only wan to place t h
should decide upon my e facts of the case be-
Prince's Island (Cape Coast) after a successful cruise of
conduct.
five months on the west coast of Africa, during which
office ? Lord Sandon—avowedly under the direction of
time she captured two slavers—a small schooner and a
or y that
did gout u ,t
the a s
Conservative a ury,
party do when in
Sir Robert Peel—brought in a Bill virtually, if not, pre-
large brig upwards of 500 tons register—both of which
chely, the same as the one upon which the Whigs
,were have been proved lawful prizes. The commaeder and
expelled from office. I am not ambitious enough, some of his officers had been ill, 'but none had died, with
officersTh ohsepistua surgeon
agonendo ntehrwee awBest
were
stillo Julfa ll unwell.Y
ifnrtignoTtohdhee
healthe commanderffec effects
s
the exception of the purser, who died on shore in the
nor vain enough, to place myself in juxtaposition
oaft tAh ea
neap)
and his
with Sir Robert Peel ; he has means of information
which might have shown him that he was wrong on his
Star was to sail for St. Helena about the 15th of
first opposition to the Bill, and might have seen the ne-
cessity of adopting it on the present occasion ; but if he
July.
Now.that the harvest is pretty well over, the farmers
possesses those extraordinary means, he should have
taken some pains to teach his supporters the secret, or,
are beginning to discharge their labourers or lower their
at all events, make some appeal to their feelings and un- wages. In several parishes near Lewes, this has been
derstandings for the necessity of its adoption. Instead
done, and the winter is again looked forward to with
of that, however, he came down most abruptly to the
iwSoyintnghoede;oei
sfrtyiSntgd.
icsPthienut
cerctrishobndu ri
affigthvtuhi(etsi:Pisiataptaol
Court;
oo
amr et ; oannda
dread by the agricultural population.—Brighton Herald.
House, and called upon his followers to support him,
troublecould I and the independent por-
t° assign any reason for the It is said that Count Protasow, President of the
o ? Why, vote precisely as we mission by the Emperor of Russia), has been received
tswinni
sudden
without ufn t
his takingchange.
followerst h
levh adt
voted three years before. Was that factious ? The
ina t satisfactorytak t.nt
he settlement.pa lazza G uHsitsi
nEi
axncieflpnl Excellency first time I came down amongst you as your representa-
tive, I said in this room, "I•haee fulfilled the first pledge
who, since his arrival at Rome, resided in locanda, has
I gave you—l have turned out the Whigs ;" but could I
have come before you as an honest man on the present
—Dublin Evening Post.
occasion, and say, " I have kept in the Tories, by voting
NEW POSTAL ARRANGEMENT FOR SEPTEMBER.
For the self-same measure which I voted against to turn
bet) was
St.es imssaurettilnhsy
loth.
te;
raauntdh,orviitzi.e:s—o(cnthtehGe emneorranlhPlgos(t)-t w
Yesterday the following notice to the public, relative
out the Whigs ?"—(Loud cheers.) On that occasion I
to a postal arrangement for the present month (Saptern-
again gave a silent vote, not because I was not desired,
the 17th of this month mails will be made up at the CHEAP RAILWAY TRAINS.—NORTH UNION -1.
nay, requested, by some of the most eminent men to
dispatched
tohnostehoplameeosrninigl
speak on the subject ; but I had a great personal regard
office for Chagres, Santa Martha, Carthagena, and San saes—•'litßreceirt,:irtridsiaPngrttithti°net.:ltjtritiehtettlatal•noCtraltii-eLn';iinn'ilieitnntCtt , rgriep il n(bv);,' etah:i'sf thell
il
ta'nu-
forbj the Prime Minister, and I felt that I could not enter
Nupicaragua,
pi c
ianr atgounad,
London
and
and the
pleasant to his feelings, and I abstained from speaking.will
sence on that line o cheap trips. We have had, since the
into the subject without saying much that would be un-
of the 17th instead of on the 2d of eacaaycrtheMtromm.
The division took place, and the Ministers were beaten
up and dispatched on the pre • • I articles appeared, niche ap trip to Live, pool—thanks. net
—the strong Conservative Government was defeated,en- , to the North Union Company, but to a small knot of
ever the 2d of the month falls on Sunday, the mails will . 11 •in the •d '
and great was the waiting and gnashing of teeth. . tectota tilers
No gentlemen could be brought up from the country Juanbbee m madea
adee
vious evening, and to go than ceuld he accommodated. Of course you
whenever the 17th of the month falls on Sunday, the Company .
to cover the defeat—no Members could be prevailed • say, the would take advent are , f this fe
eling,
upon feeling,
mails will be made up and dispatched on the following ' • 1 have another trip • 1-• T •
upon to unsay or undo what they had said or done pre- are
morning.
viously, and consternation prevailed in the Ministerial Persons go by hundreds and thousands to Fleetwood and
NE METROPOLITAN PARLIAMENTARY REVISIONS. Blackpool, and they •
ranks. It was rumoured that the Ministers were aboutmay continue to go there for any
to resign. Indeed, I was told—not as a secret—by two• —We understand that Mr. T. J. Arnold has been ap- possible chance there is of the North Union Company
members of the Administration, that they actually had Pointed by Lord Denman the revising barrister of' the favouring them with a trip to Liverpool." ie
issmipany
resigned. I can assure you that it was with feelings of i
l_sts of electors for the City of London, and has appointed nion that if a cheap train to Liverpool were advertised,o°Pt-
great pain I received this intelligence, but it did not to hold his first Court in the Court of Common Pleas, in connexion with a cheap steam excursion, for
.sabout
Guildhall, on Monday, the 16th inst. The
inproceedings three or four days, to Menai-bridge, B
alter my conviction on the measure. Upon entering the ge,
NorthCarnar-
Housereceiving andother enchanting Wales, hun-
resigned;from the Secondaries the lists of the livery, and from the dredawouldgladly embrace
but that Sir Robert Peel had determined on
il d. the offer. We think so too.
overseers the lists of the 101. householders. After this Rail
asking us again to rescind our votes, and said if we did
way Record.
not proceeding the discussion of the different c' •
not do so we must abide by the consequences. I could
ACCIDENT IN THE QUEEN'S PRISON.—On Satur-
and objections will be proceeded with in the order which not silently obey the imperious mandate which he put
, day evening, about six o'clock, the following singular
forth; and I warmly and passionately, but quite unpre- at its earliest sitting, will, no doubt, be appointed bytheLord ' but seri.ius accident occurred to a gentleman named
Court. In the letter of appointment issued b
meditatedly, expressed my feelings Cit'ene subject. The
Jackson, an inmate of the Queen's Bent Pri,on. Tit=
manner of my address, and the expressions I used, were, Denman, in his capacity of Lord Chief Justiceyof the untor:uneatii eetit'einali, who i, a sine young itian, about
perhaps, not so exactly proper as if I had been more Queen's Bench, the names of Mr. Lancelot Shadwell, twenty twenty-ti, years of age, was pl.aying a game at mese ts
son of the Vice Chancellor of England, and Mr. D. C.
prepared; but the circumstances of the case were a suffi-
r with anther debtor. wh-n, hav,,,g raised the ball, it re-
gret justification of my warmth, and Ido not now re- Moylan, are associated, and it is presumed that on turned, falling two or three a ads b4iml him, and near those Learned Gentlemen will take the revision of ''themade where his opponent steed. The latter then struck it.
use of.--(Loud cheers.) When the division came, how. county of Middlesex, and the other that of the boroughs. and at the same moment Mr. Jackson turning hielseV
of Finsbury, Marylebone, and the Tower Ha l
ever, the Ministers were in a majority ; but how was et,. As round, the ball carne hi violent; contact with his face.
that majority obtained? Why, the champions, the yet, however, no definitive arrangement has beenl made. when he immed at,iy, ,overiter it with his hands and
___XTENSIVE SEIZURE OF TOBACCO Amost • • ile 71.4 ,- N ~
orators, the oracles of the Anti Corn law League crossed :2 DD. ri,„„in,,: idi,.ut I,py.tron,,y ;11 L._ erethees agony-, ex-
•' the House, and carried the Ministers in triumph to their portant seizure was on Saturday made by the Excise on ciaonc,l • )., in ee s oet--- ne es 0 5 Wit 1 Ine
lobby,—(Hear, hear.) Was ..1 wrong in the conduct I the premises of Mr. F. Ryder,.tob e
a etemanufacturer, of lockers-on of h;. gaine and the person with whom he
Chiswell-street, Finsbury-s
had pursued? No. In two days afterwards the most quare, From infermation was , laying, pert' nig !)1 .0,1 oozi,g• through his finds received, Messrs. Adolphus Mark
prudent of orators, if not of statesmen, came down to the and John Wilde, two apps nelled him an! to their leee•• -: -• e i • • his
i of`
that
'louse and made an apologetic speech, thr the first time indefatigable officers and examinerseie trll of Excise,' . I .''
7 1.
' '
. left eye war yi,,g c,.m.?,..te1y „lit of its socket
~,, his
proceeded to the above premise. and it
' 1
in his life—because he had always been more cautious, adopneoptfßrh:.:axut(ii•tvs'hyeaPnhe;
itactp,rli)fflasae:l i , .
requested to. exa- cheek. He tse as immediately carried toinfirmary,
mine the stock of t blyco, which •
more courteous, and because, in fact, he had never before
,ts readd, acceded t.', wh.•re be W, fltiOntieit by tle, toed Cl.O lawt.r, and ;61r.
and the result was, that the :llse° .erect a Large qa4ritity Hunter, ;, s,ir.4-poo in di, it ig;thott,l.,md, wire, having
given offence.— (Hear, hear.) Was not that a sufficient
tobacco c.l-
justification of my conduct His own friends said
of manufacture:l
1 app ml e:tr, ,o !li 'ln ,0 he replaced lie 7 eye, :after P c,ireriti examination, pronoun' rd
• afterwards that they were astonished at his want of adulterated with tin article res• twain- pc,t They -c- tli.- silq ~, I . -
~ 11't'? t;,) ti,,stn.vpd. Every att,LL:cli
caution,
, and pursuit g tbe,r =ear.ll, was ;.,,c1 i.,,) the :,ittf..n.-9., 1 w.. 0 I;,,r4f2h,'at the ill ;l and
tone he adopted on the occ •and if I had sat silent found a large • • • pan, containine a solution ' f ho,ev, or -e,i, id ~• - -He,. ,‘, , ' • :"
want of temper, and the arrogant and imperious cordingly seized the whole ••• " * - - ' .' • •
anon;
a • ••• ,• ~t`N1,),.,)•:4,1,i, tot. ±l.lO, 4•NCI ocil:talL,
during the haughty address, and craven like had trembled some other saccharine matter. 'They then proceeded. tit I).):iin. A. ',, ,i,e• , !,,.; iim.,ar ~,e:•i,,,t i: said to La, on my seat without the courage to resent it. how could an adjoining room, which they minutely examined. It oce„,...eci _, ~,,. ~,, . i...;,, :,J), tit Oct' her last.
I have dared afterwards to meet honourable and hide. contained a cupboard, se:deb they feud to be locked,
been lost for a considerable time corisethuaetntti
pendent men, and sa • I had done my duty to them as and on requesting the kof • •h ey it, t....y were told
their representative? •(Letid and long-continued cheers ) key had THE PIP/ if FF:411.11:11;.--- Ti,e -erwants of this
~ q . y splendid silver cup. With a 'int Al. i.,,,c iption,t,. Colour-
lie. corps, prvvi.. s 1 1. .-.:i.,,, I),;i:',, ..ttrt.tson. uresented a
I have entered into the details of these circumstances they were unable to produce it.. The officers. nut sans- sergeant G. Miller, on his 1 avieg that r,gitM•nt, in O•s-
-answer, determined that the cupboard t.ofthe high • " in I'h he it, held by
iniony
.est-tin:ln,, sk lie w
lareongneort thanututterly
rIl
3, fearlvi t
hh
oa
us t been
interest p l pleasant alit,
ot
tt t. o yiolulav;
ebnuot
namethey fi_he(l)vdnalad with
f be
ori t7hdal m i n e d
and an iron bar b •
sopen, and within was found ebout "01h of
epee protein.. .iwarda.-
-no powerful interest—no great influence—I am nothing it
thet ian itzli e
the i• - orthern Whig. in the House of Commons but Member for Shrewsbury; peat, or a iinilar article ob ' '
_.r. t that, elieved to he mixed • r 4
LaDVERTISMENTI—A MAGic Cent: BY Iloi.-
and part of the obloquy which I may draw upon myself l with the tobaece.
in the t,llrem, fur a per: op! of twenty- !,‘,. years a.,H ill
Up in the officers iyquirn., it:, us, , 0 . • p s .11vit• F.ir,. t.,
,- , LOWAY a IN fMENT - AND ILI- •
I they were informed., that it I I
eree, ~7,,ste.vie I, ••b eo ....iml. !,•.111
law allowed tobacco mlnufact,,rers to,, little triumph, let me know that you will share it with l years, when the '
•• • le, I he
must necessarily fall upon you ; and if 1 should gain al
me, and that you will enable me to say, ~ We elected have such articles ••
In
ti. their possessiou. of the cour,e or . fail,
t ., II ••, D 'D pa ;i ,• .n .. ,
for we have found their search they also found a vessel containine Vene- ~f• heri
i youth,
ti. '6;1: , -77;7 i:
t.
. k
this stranger, and will support him,
and a mixture of nth. r ing, bur .!tir o had t• I :"
I ' „.
,k,o, th ~.v , • :
.... .
ngag•.( 7ti the 1..,11.-r ..par, fleece, but all
hilt
.a
An
lietmi independent ngdaernet aan dbrainefl:okneetcsht representative. rhesisenctaarteievre:;
House of Commons, and concluded by officers were ~ r ,1• ' ' -
' 14% t 'I. :4
saccharine meter hail entireli disa -
P now be se ii waki g
have their treat object, and I have attained it already. ' peered, and was nowhere to h„ f.., i. a,sist i.
i . ein( By (lie .a. •ce aiee, see. • e
If I had wanted a crumb of the public plunder, I have 0!..Me,, S
Messrs. pure•er and Cowie, the whole stick was de. ode r nee,
.
little doubt that I could have gained it as ostler men posited in' and c. 'd.
a van, an enveye ei the Excise-44%T, to se: ,ie I' ' ' ' ' - .05. -i''
have. Let me be fairly understood. lam no political ,be d• ad• eu mated upon be her M., ies v• 's Commissi • •
oners. ; (where ~,,te- • '.' - ••' • ' '• -
..
Pharisee, to thank God that lam not like this man or . Another seizure ' was made en the same premises about respectable vendors of medicine tiaroughout the civilised
that man.
__ If I had the same objects in view, lam per- I three months since. • 1 world. I

POLICE INTELLIGENCE.
(YE,-:.TERT).AY.)
131?:!..1LAY.

(Before Viscount Sydney, Chairman ; the Rev Sir C.
Farnaby, Bart.; E. R. Adams, Esq. ; Captain
Bahrens ; the Rev. T. Scott ; P. Dyke, Esq.;
Chapman, Esq.; G. Jackson, Esq., &c., &c.)
This was a special seision for the purpose of renew-
ing the licenses of the victuallers carrying on business
within the district, and in consequence of some mat-
ters that have created a good deal of interest in the
neighbourhood, there was an unusually full attendance
of magistrates.

The licenses of the other victuallers having been
renewed without any opposition, Mr. Martin, the
landlord of the " 80-peep, at Chelsflel.l, applied or
a renewal of his license.

Mr. DYKE said that, before his brother magistrates
granted the application, he must beg leave to lay
before them some circumstances that had come ithin
his knowledge, and which he thought they ought to
he acquainted with. Ile had reason to believe that
this house was the resort of the most de,!,erate cha-
racters, and he knew that one man had liv(-d there for
st-veral months with a prostitute, who had no mean,,
of living but by plunder, and who was eventually
transported for deer-stealing. That man had since
stated that, if he had offered him any opposition (the
deer were stolen from the pa; 1«) f. Sir P. 11. Dyke,
the worthy magistrate's father), he would have shot.
hint dead, and it was his intention to do so. He did
not wish to rely upon this circumstance alone, but he
felt it to be his duty to mention it, and the police,
who had also made inquiries respecting the applicant's
house, would be able to put the bench ia possession
of further facts respecting it.
Serjeant Leverick, of the R division, said, that in
consequence of instructions he received, he made some
inquires respecting the "80-Peep." Ile first disco-
vered that a woman, to whom the landlord had given
a good character, with a view to get her into service,
had been charged with setting fire to her master's
house. Upon his going to the house on a Sunday
morning during Divine service, he found twelve or
fourteen persons, gipseys, men and women, almost all
of whom were in a state of intoxication, and some
were lying dead drunk under the hedge. One man
seized his horse by the bridle, and he had great diffi-
culty in genii's, away from him. The place was a
regular rookery, and appeared to be the resort of the
most desperate characters.

Lord SYDNEY a-ked the applicant what answer he
had to give to the statements relative to the manner in
which his house had been conducted ?

The applicant said he could ►,ot deny that the per-
son referred to by Mr. Dyke was a very desperate cha-
racter, but the fact was, that he took possession of his
shed, and he did not dare to get rid of him, for he
threatened him, that if he attempted to do it, he would
poison his water, or set the house on tire, and be was
actually afraid to attempt to remove him.
Lord SYDNEY said it was his duty, when he knew
he had such a desperate fellow about him, to have ap-
plied to the mag'strates, if he really desired to get
rid of him.

Some other statements were then given, tending to
show that the house kept by the applicant was a place
of resort for the most desperate and abandoned cha-
racters.

The CHAIRMAN said he believed the " Bo• Peep"
was not within the metropolitan police district.
Inspector M‘Gill said it was not.
Sergeant Leverick said that vt hen he went to make
the inquiries on the Sunday morning he referred to,
he asked some questions of the constablemf the parish,
and he told him he would find plenty of people at the
house.

Mr. ADAMS—Why did he not interfere, and do his
duty ?
Mr. DYKE said he believed he told the constable he
was afraid to do so.

His LORDSHIP then, after a brief consultation with
hls colleagues, said th.tt the bench were unanimously
of opinion that it was their duty to refuse to renew the
license, as it was clear that the house was the resort
of desperate and abandoned characters, and a nuisance
to the neighbourhood.

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