The Sun.
London, England, 1819-06-10 00:00:00

ti tie roost o' he thous lt it in: I.4l)c't (IP`)t
1:1171 to re,,ist the oppressions of the people.
Mr. C.% I.t/F..!IT, in allusion to the last Hon. Gentleman.
and in allusion to the sentintents of many others, begged
have to say, that while they condemned the porter for its al-
lege:l bad quality, it was in every body's mouth.—(Loud
Laughter.;
Sit..J. F.lirlGhl l condemned the tax on malt, because it
seriously affected the laOded interest.
r. ROT7GI-1.-INI recittred to the admission of the Chancel-
lor of the i,:xelierpier. that the three millions of new taxes must
some persons Bit hr iN:r. B.) was fully convinced,
that judgiug from the speeeit of the Right Hon. Gentleman
fast Monday evening, he defied any body to tell who verre to
lt3.Y the new taxes. Ali those contiectell with the landed in-
terest will reel it roost soy,' ely, front the groaer- to the
merchant, and from the merchant or seller to the lit ewer.—
From whom does it come that evasions may he expected?
Not from the r.pacions brewer or the rapacious distiller.
Th. y must pay the tax, for the Ri,ltt Honourable Gentleman's
myrmidons, that implacable list of civil sitEhers, would twee
the paymi•nt of the duty, or farce the penalties i f the Act.
Put the increase of this duty would not cause all increase of
consumption. It would not only fall upon the ma-
toufacturer and every class of soc'ety, but would fall hea-
vily on the malt grower and barley grower. It would
Lave been laudable, and would hive displayed wore
ewitientlY the si ill of a profound Statesman, had tne
Chancellor of the E.:lulu, ;Jul...A all additional duty
tia spirits. TaJt them if yon please; but leave the lower
classes thoir own wiodecome lieverag,e ; .leave the malt un-
touched. One word more as to the pi cessity of this. t4X,
he atolls denied, however ardently the }loth Nitiahcc
f‘a. Cineto ster ;1,1.1 his ft 'tends argued in its favotn. It would
be better lint the 111/1i1.1)S 110 W about to he taken lay the M:-
Itistess it the shape of taxes were left in the p,ch, is of the
to f,tetify, anti prepare them for the sudden exigency
war. iii would leave-the capital to iticrea-e :trii to im-
prove in heir own possession, and not extort it for the sup-
poet of douse wioll were enemies to vet teeth INVIA i4IV•I reform.
The Hole Nleniber concluded by assuring the Committee,
that be would oppose the tax in every stage of it; and he -
never before gave a vote mare conscientiously.
Sir ,h 11N NE tl Po o puscd the measure, as hostile not
only to the lower classes., tint to the landed interest.
Mr. COKE (of Norfolk) declared he would never give his
rote for raisin{ a shilling of taxi s,.nutil he saw a disposition
on the pair of Got-ennuis 01 to, adopt plans of retrenchment
and economy. Nothitig could he more oppressive and hit-
wili!ie than the tax twin' malt; and he was sure it would do
the greatest injary to the ag.rictilittral interests of the coun-
try, ;:artictilarly in the County of Norfolk, in very few parts
of which is heat was grown ; and he was sure that the tax
hr ruinous to the fainters of that county, I,»n which a
rell!01151 ratter WhS very shortly to be presented to Ministers
on this subject. fie tax would fail as a grievance beyond
any thing that could he described, on the poor of the country,
{i ill) Wet e already scarcely able to procure ,a common sub-
sistence by their labottr.--(Hear, hear !)
The Iloose then proceeded to decide, and after strangers
were withdrawn, continues! debating fur a considerable time.
tit last t division took place, when the nullifiers were—
For the Resolution 233
itgati-itst it '

Mnjority for Nfinisters tot
The Gtilleryremailivd t lined for aconsid.trable time, durinz
which two divisions tool: place, on twu several tllutigll3 fur
ettijotllllllrt4t.
(.)o the first, tlit numbers werv—..

For
191

siglllt~t

Majority 134

Cu the second_
'Ayes
1,04%0
Majority 143
On strangers being• re-admitted, Mr. J. P. GSIA,NI was found
strongly objecting to the additional duty on Tea. He blamed
'Alinisters for proposing three millions cf fresh taxes, after
bve years of peace, and when they at.iiicrr..ledged they had
a surplus of two millions. Ile then moved, tt.at instrad.of
10') per cent., the words be 95 per cent.
Mr. CANNING made tome sarcastic remarks o•s the man.
ner in which the Hon. Gentleman had eked out his speech, at
the very time that he urged the lateness of the hour.
Mr. HUME advised his Pliwtoural:,:e Friend to withdraw
his amendment.
Mr. BROTTGILIM thought that it might he proper to make
the present motion as a protest, hat to delay pressing it until
the Report of the Committee should be brought up. lie un-
derstood, that within the last twelve days, Tea had fallen six-
pence a-pound at the East India House, and yet-it was at
this moment the Chancellor of the Exchequer proposed to lay
a new t4x tapon an already falling article.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated, that
the additional duty would trot mahe a difference of more than
one penny in the pound.
Mr. J. P. GRANT would not consent to 'withdraw his
amendment, but would not west; it to a question. •
The amendment was then put and negatived, and the ori-
ginal resolutiten to. -
Mr. J. P. GRANT Ilien moved amendments to the resolu-
tions respecting Tobacco and Pepper, which were also nega-
tived without a division.

On the resolution for increasing the duty upon Coffee—
Mr. 131{0t.;GI1 AM reminded the Chancellor of the Exche-
quer that in $409 it had been Suomi necessary to reduce the
411ty on Coffee from 2s. to 7d.; and that the effect bad been
to increase the consumption of that article fire times what it
had previously been, and to augment by a ssfhole fourth the
produce of the duty. Would it not follow that if 50 per cent,
were added to that duty, the consumption ,would again be
reduced, and the revenue injured, instead of being improved?
..„

After a fees• words from the CHANCELLOR. of the EX-
CHEQUER, the resUltition was agreed to.
On the Resolution for laying an additional duty of Qs. per
gallon on British Spirits,
Mr. J. P. GRANT objected to a duty which 'would deeply
'injure agriculturists, by rendering imported Spirits cheaper
than those manufactnred at home. lie then moved that the
original duty be substituted for the present.
The Amendment was then negatived, and the original De-
solation agreed to.
The other Resoltstions were then agreed to; the House
resumed, and the Report was ordered to be received this
day.
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and
the House adjourned at Hulf-past Two o'Clock this morning.