The Sun.
London, England, 1845-09-10 00:00:00

MEETING OF 111 i. MIALL'S FRIENAP.

Mr. MIMI met the electors on Monday at the Duke a
urtemburg Tavern, Hatfield-street Stamford-street.
T..e ro-rn was very fu'l ; at least 300 persons must have
be:n present.
Dr. Newth was called to the chair.
Mr. Mau, said, he wished it well understood for
w:lqt it was that his suppo ters wero about to give their
wtes on Thursday morning. He came forward especially
on the question of the ecclesiastical policy just introduced
by Sir Robert Peel ; and this had brought up the sub-
je.-t of Sir W. Mole3worth's opinions on the nature of
re:igious liberty. That gentleman had confessed himself
an admirer of Hobbos, whose system was thi3,—that all
m 'a are in a state of natural war one with another ; that
it is absolutely necessary, in order to the peace of so-
ci' ty, and the due government of human beings, that
th -re should be a central, unlimited, arbitr try power ;
that the despot should have power, not simply over the
persons and the property, but over the conscience
and the opinions of all his sultjects ; and that it
is rebAlion against law to profess any other princi-
ple s of religion ;than those prescribed by the
leg al authority. A Mr. Maddox, too, had come
forward with an address, expressing really terms of
rtst,ture on writings which in that samo address
be confessed he had not read through.—(liear, hear.)
Th best service that Sir William Molesworth's sup-
pa-ters could do to the cause of civil and religious
lib rty would be to sit down at Hobbes's works early
on
Th irsday morning, asd keep reading on till four o'clock
in the afternoon.—(Loud cheers.) lie (Mr. Allan)
should be mortified to see this election regarded as a
fight between Christianity and infidelity —a controversy
to be decided not by votes, but by arguments ; nor
mould he introduce the topic, but for the absolute con-
Ite7,_ien between religious opinion and the political sub-
rcts..that now came before them for settlement. A
defi:ate reply must be made to the Government and to
bolt political parties, who had menaced the country
wit further interference with religious liberty. It was
no, •ssary to
Piousknow whether Sir William Molesworth's
?pinions were such as to allow of the payment
of ,•II religionists, degrading the general mind of the
pet ole by making the ministers of instruction' who
ou. at to be the first to lead them forward, the tools for
eff :Ling the purposes of the aristocracy.—(Cheers.)
T Whig press was very wroth with him (Mr. Miali)
fa- forcing his `'crotchet" of voluntaryism on the public;
be deeply interested as he was in the causeas,whethere
offre
trt. e, he telt that the question of the da),
w
thi • policy of encroachment on our religious liberties
wa • to be fastened upon us or nipped in the bud ? The
ism .ending danger to the mo
le-
sixin 'Coal quarter ; and if, oar ardour for the repeal of
the corn-laws, a proper start] was not taken against it,
the ..people would deserve to be treated not merely as
foot e, but as slaves.—(Cheers.) He had come forward,
far'aer, as the opponent of the new poor-law, and of
tha . system of centralization which, whatever its merits
in 1.. merely mechanical and executive point of view, was
per,.!ctly incompatible with the free movement; of those
am. itutions, whether municipal or parochial, which we
regard as safeguards of freedom.—(Cheers,) On these
points he differed from Sir William Molesworth ; and,
lastly. on the question of the suffrage. Under the
existing system, both parties were " featherint, their
nests." An immense, sum had been squandered' by
;he Ecclesiastical Commission—not in sustaining

and helping the poorer churches, or devising fresh
means to convey truth to the people, but in building
noble palaces for those who ought to be " clothed with
humility."—(Cries of " Shame!") The people, if intrusted
with the franchise, would in time see where their
interest lay—in the mainterance of order, the protection
of property, the sustentation of law, the dispensation of
justice. As a believer in the great maxim, "Do unto
others as you would they should do to you," and as an
advocate for confiding iu human nature, recognising in
every man a friend and a brother, and raising his. self-
respect by raising his position and station in society, he
(Mr. Miall) was for universal suffrage.—(Great cheer-
ing.) Mr. Miall proceeded to urge his friends to be
early at the poll, assuring them of his confidence of
being, with their aid, successful. He then sat down
amidst general applause.
The usual resolution in his favour was moved by Mr.
S. ALLEN, a member of the Society of Friends, seconded
by Mr. TAYLOR, supported by the Rev. Mr. FOSTER,
and carried unanimously, after which the meeting
broke up.

TAW INTELLIGENCE.
COURT BANKRUPTCY, Sept. 9.
(Before Mr. Commissioner FONBLANQUE. )
IN RE JOHN HENRY WOODHAM.

In this case.the insolvent, who had been a clerk in the employ
of the Great Western Railway Company, came up on his final
order. On the previous application opposition was raised on
the ground that he had made a vexatious defence to an action.
The arguments were heard before Mr. Commissioner Fane,
who new forwarded to the Court his written opinion, in which
he adjudged the protection. to be suspended for three months,
steiecting the insolvent to a further imprisonment of six weeks
from this date.
The insolvent's solicitor urged to the Commissioner that Mr.
Commissioner Fane had on the last occasion confined his atten-
tion to a specific fact, and had not gone Iwo the whole of the
matter, and the insolvent did not expect to meet a judgment
on the whole of the case.
Mr. Commissioner FONBLANQUE said he held the written
decision of Mr. Commissioner Fane, who said he had heard and
fulls: considered the case ; in fact, he appeared to regret that he
was obliged to come to the decision he had.
The insolvent's solicitor said that he was sure that had
Mr. Commissioner Fane barn present he would have heard the
present argument.
The CommissioNEß said he could not constitute himself into
a court of appeal. Besides, the insolvent had only to be im •
prisoned for six weeks ; and if he (the Commissioner) took cog-
nizance of the case it must he begun again. On that a hear-
ing could not be obtained in less than that time.

POLICE INTELLIGENCE.
(YESTERDAY.)
GUILDHALL.

A respectably-dressed young man, who gave the name of
John Luff Chnr,hill, of 130, Regent-street, was brought
before Alderman Kelly aril Alderman Wood, charged under
the following circumstances :
Police-constable John Hutchinson, 107, stated that this
morning, about seven o'clock, a cab drove up to the station-
house door, and the prisoner leaped out and en-
tered in a very wild manner, and asked for protection, saying,
" They are going to shoot me, but you must save me, as I can
give information respecting the late robbery of 800/. in Re..
gent-street." Witness asked him if he had been drinking,
when he said he had, but had not been gambling. Witness
thought it his duty to detain him, as he had no money for pay-
ment of cab-hire.
William Monday, the cabman, said that he took the gentle-
man up in Piccadilly about four o'clock is the morning, and
drove him to Charter House-square, where he knocked at the
door of a surgeon, and not being able to see him, he jumped
into the cab, and directed to be driven to Bayswater, and on
reaching there, he then said he would go back
to the square, when he perhaps should .be able
to me the person he wanted. On reaching the latter place the
prisoner then appeared much excited, said that some one was
going to shoot him, and begged witness to drive him to the
station, which was done. The fare was Si.
The prisoner entered into a long rambling statement, which,
however, the Magistrates stopped, he being evidently insane.
Dr. Purnell, 34, Charter House-square, stated that the pri-
soner had been in a good situation in Regent-street, but, he
believed, was now out of his mind. His friends lived near
Bath, and were most respectable, and he hoped the magistrates
would remand him until he could communicate with his friends.
The prisoner was then remanded until Saturday.
BOW-STREET.
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Jo'in Moore was placed at the bar before Mr. Jardine,
charged with attempting to pick the pocket of Richard Lane, of
28, Bury-street, Strand.
The prosecutor said that he wss standing in the Strand,
looking at some prints in a window, when he felt a hand in his
pocket, and caught hold of his handkerchief as it was being
drawn from it.
Joseph Rash, ar►ist, saw the prisoner attempt to draw the
handkerchief from the prosecutor's pocket.
Policeman F 122 produced the pocket handkerchief, and the
prisoner was committed for trial.
MARLBOROUGH-STREET.

Win. Power, aged 8, John Smith, aged 9, and Margaret
Dillon, aged 10, were charged by Police-sergeant No. 62, of
the C division, with having been found begging at a late hour
last night in the Haymarket. Knowing that they had several
times been in custody, the constable took them to the station-
house. On the way there the girl contrived to slip out of his
hands, but shortly afterwards came back and gave herself into
charge again, saying, " I know what gaud is, I've had a
month of it before now, and I've too good a pluck not to take
pot luck to night with the others ; I'll never desert my man"
(alluding to the boy Power). Dillon is remarkably intelli-
gent and erafty for her years, and is one of a numer3us family
who for a series of years have lived entirely by begging.
Mr. Alavrav ordered them to be committed fur ten days
each.

THE EXPERIMENTAL SQUADRON
Notwithstanding the boasted assertion to the contrary of
the apologists for the surveyor's ships, no official dispatches
have been received by the Admiralty informing their Lord-
ships of the details of the trial sailings. The ex parte state-
ments puffing the surveyor's ships have emanated from the
Navy Office, and, therefore, not the slightest reliance can be
placed on them. To every impartial person in the slightest
degree acquainted with naval matters, it is apparent that
whatever advantage was gained by the surveyor's ships
Queen and Albion was, under the circumstances already pub-
lished, obtained by reason of their immense spread of canvas
and lighter armaments' the Queen having 2,500 square feet
of canvas more than the St. 'Vincent and the Trafalgar, and
the Albion having 3,500 square feet more than each of those
two ships, and 2,700 more than the other two-deckers, the
Queen also having a less armament and ammunition than the
Trafalgar and St. Vincent, and a less complement of men,
and the Albion having a less armament and ammunition
than the Rodney.
The Naval and Military Gazette quotes our accounts of the
trials ; and remarks—
" The result of the late trials of the sbipa of the experi-
mental squadron has, we deem, been very unsatisfactory,
inasmuch as that the ships have scarcely ever had wind
enough to make their rates of sailing exceed seven knots off
the wind, and rive knots by the wind, thus showing that they
have not had any bad weather to contend against. Our best
hope is that in their next cruise the Gallant Admiral will
keep in from 49 to 52 degrees of N. latitude, and from 12 to 20
to 25 west longitude, when we undertake to say he will be
more likely to find the sort of winds • and-weathers that are
required to test the merits of the squadron under his orders,
not only in sailing, but in all those more essential qualities
which, as men-of-war, they will be needed to possess when
forming part of our fleets in a future war; we mean by the
frequent exercise in every necessary duty, and in all kinds of
weather."
A correspondent of that journal, the only respectable pro-
fessional London weekly paper, also says :
" Altogether, I consider the reports with regard to their
rate of sailing as meagre and pitiful in the extreme. Why,
the old San Josef; while carrying the flag off Torsion in her
day, used to lash through the water under the three top-
sails, with the main yard square and helm half a turn alee,
nearly as fast as these crack ships go under all sail, with as
much wind as splits the maiutopsail of one and causes another
to miss stays. What chance would this flying squadron
have with such ships as the old Sans Pareil, Donegal, Ville
de Paris, or even the old Venerable, Vanguard, Kent, or
Goliath ? Why, if the old Victory was tilted out, she would
run round the whole of them. Can any of your corres
spondcnts inform me why such ships as the Galatea and
Crescent, two noted fast-sailing frigates, were selected, the
ene for a coal depot and the other for a receptacle for negroes,
when either of these ships would have astonished the frigates
of the present day, and would have spared the experi-
mental squadron their courses, and have outsailed them with
ease ?"
That well-known fast-sailing man-of-war, the Donegal,
74, captured from the French, was broken up at Portsmouth
by the Navy Office, in defiance of a protest from men well
calculated to judge of her value. She was considered to be
worth 25,0001. ; but she was broken up at an expense of
1,5001. The Galatea and Crescent, like many other good
old ships, were got rid of because their well-known and
acknowledged superior qualities were obnoxious to the Navy
Office.
The Hampshire Telegraph, to the reports of the fleet which
appeared last week, adds the following confirmation of
them :
" We extract the following from a letter from the sqa-
dron :—The Queen beats the St. Vincent one mile per hour
ahead, and one mile in ten to windward. The St. Vincent
beats the Vanguard half a mile per hour ahead, and one mile
per hour to windward, and the Superb in about the same pro-
portion. The Albion does little as an improved ship, but sails
better than last cruise ; she rolls awfully. It is anticipated
that the surveyor will not now disown the Queen. The
Vanguard and Superb are disgraceful."
Another letter says. "The Queen beats all on every point
of sailing, Canopus, Albion, Rodney, St. Vincent, Trafalgar,
Vanguard, and Superb ; the two latter very bad on all
points, and very leewardly. The weather generally fine.
Accidents to spars immaterial. Casualties in the crew, ten
in the squadron during the cruise. The Admiral has
been confined with the gout the last 14 days : he is now able
to leave his bed."
In calculating the advantages of each vessel on the whole,
they are entitled to be placed thus :
Queen.
St. Vincent.
Albion. Trafalgar.
Rodney. Superb.
Canopus. Vanguard.
The Vanguard's position is worthy of especial attention.
This was the "crack ship" of the Mediterranean. The Rodney
was said to be nothing to her; but now that she and her
sister ship, the Superb, are stored as line-of-battle ships
ought to be, they are beaten on all points by the Rodney and
Canopus, two-deck ships, both of heavier armament, and by
• the St. Vincent and Trafalgar, three deckers. It is now to
be decided how the surveyor's ships will behave in compa-
rison with the others with a light draught of water. The
Admiral is to take them with him to sea for six weeks, with
, two months' provisions only to give the Queen and sister-
hood an opportunity of rolling away their spars, and giving
their crews an autumnal bathe.
Since the foregoing account of the experimental squadron
was in the press, we have been favoured with a statement of
r the relative merits of the ships, arranged in such a way as to
show not only the order of superiority, but also the exact
relation, numerically stated, which one ship bears to another.
• These results have been obtained in a general deduction from
the several trials, by an officer on whose judgment and cor-
rectness we can implicitly rely, and they may be taken as
most fairly representing the true state of the case. The
number placed against each ship shows in what degree it is
superior or inferior to any other.
On a Wind. Off the Wind.

General Result of all
Points of Sailing.