The Sun.
London, England, 1845-05-19 00:00:00

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TAT TERSALL'S.—THIS EVENING
Six o'CLocK.

DEBBY.
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RAILWAY COMM ITITES

(THIS DAY.)

Group V.
NEWARK AND SHEFFIELD LINE.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition.)
Mr. Josh. Gibbs, cross-examined by Mr. WIIATELEY, Q.C.
—He had examined north of Hardwick, but considered that
the country was not feasible for this line, as, among other
objections, it would require a tunnel beneath Hardwick
Park, and completely throw the line out of the coal-fields.
Ile was not aware of any agreement entered into by the
Company with Lord Middleton or Mr. Sutton, of Kildham,
to have the line deviate in other ways than as laid down in
tie plan.
Captain Sir James Salmon, the Chairman of the Pro
visional Committee of the Newark and Sheffield line, put in
the agreement signed by Lord Middleton, the Hon. Manners
Sutton, and the Committee. The agreement ordered that in
the event of the opposition of these gentlemen to this line
being withdrawn the promoters pledged themselves to make
an application next session to Parliament for a deviation in
. such part of the line as would suit all parties.
Mr. WHATELEY before cross-examining Captain Salmon,
would ask the Committee whether under these circumstances
this Bill should not stand over till next sessions?
The Committee decided that the objection was not fatal to
the progress of the Bill.
Captain Salmon cross-examined—He was not aware that
any money arrangements had been come to between Lord
Middleton, Mr. Sutton, and the Committee.

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Mr. W. Cubitt, civil engineer, bad examined the plans
and sections of the proposed line. He had heard Mr. Gibbs'
avidence, and he thought it was quite likely that the railway
could be constructed within the estimate.
Cross-examined by Mr. WHATELEv—There would be no
danger in having an incline of 1 in 100 for a quarter of a
mile, before coming on to the North Midland line. The
heaviest carriages could be stopped within a distance of 400
yards.
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- Mr. Venue, civil engineer, and Mr. Hawkshaw, combo.
rated the opinions of Mr. Cnbitt and Mr. Gibbs.
The Committee then adjourned till to-morrow.

A branch to the eastward of the Staffordshire line, about two
miles distant from that line, will open up that trade, which
will be most important to that part of the countrv.
Had heard much of the difference of gauge. He hid
made many experiments himself. On the Canterbury
and Whitstable line he had tried to remedy the break of
gauge. but the trouble was so great it was abandoned. The
change of gauge was most objectionable, and we give the
canals a decided preference for goods traffic. As far as he had
any knowledge the remedying of the break of gauge by loose
body carriages would never answer, for it would require two
stations to work them. The Great Western Company con-
templated laying down a narrow gauge from Worcester to
Wolverhampton. They intended laying it down by the side
of the other guage on their line, and it will consequently afford
but local accommodation. To do this they will be obliged to
have two stations, one for the broad gauge and one for the
narrow gauge. With reference to these lines regarding
the accommodation to the country, the promoters' line
was the best adapted for the traffic of the country.
The present line from the Euston-square station to Wor.
tester was 1211 miles. With regard to the speed on the
broad and narrow gauge, there was no difference. The speed
on the narrow gauge was equally as quick as the broad gauge.
On the Northern and Eastern Railway for the last two
years that Company went at the rate of 55 miles an hour.
That was a rate of speed which he (Mr. Stephenson) did
not fancy for his own travelling. The public on
that line, however, liked it. The quickest rate of
travelling now was 112 miles in three hours and thirty-
seven minutes. He understood the nature of engine-
making, and he could construct an engine which would do
112 miles in two hours and fifteen minutes. On the London
and Birmingham line they were lengthening the engines for
the purpose of speed. Had examined the estimates, which
were formed by him. The estimate from London to
Worcester is 2,732,877/. This included all the branches
up to that place. There was some opposition to
the line from a few of the landowners on the line.
The damage they would sustain would not be re-
sidential, it would be agricultural, and there was no
injury which could be done but would be met
by a fair system of compensation. Lord Sandys'
property, a little above Worcester, we touch—
some of his Lordship's meadow land about 50 feet below a
large precipice. We are also opposed by a Mr. Hodges
Foley. That gentleman's property was bounded on each
side by canals. One canal came between the railway and a
considerable portion of his property. Would rather that
gentleman state his own grievances.
Mr. Mantz, a landowner at Worcester, examined—The
line of railway would pass his residence within 50 feet. Knew
the house very well, it was called the Commandre, and is of
the Elizabethan stile. The house was very low, sunk in a
valley, and the trains would pass on overlooking the house.
Knew of a case almost similar,it was that of a railway passing
within forty feet of a clergyman's house, and overlooking
it at a height of 14 feet. That gentleman got compensation,
but as the works progressed he found the annoyance was not
so great as he at first anticipated, and he did not remove his
family, but kept the compensation.(Laughter.)
The Ciiallimax—Mr. Mantz, do you oppose the Great
Western line?

Mr. Mantz—No, Sir, Ido not object to that line. It does
not touch my property, and that line is the most popular
with the people of Worcester.
Cross-examination continued—We could not avoid going
near your property; it would compel us to cross a main road.
After some further cross-examination, the Committee ad-
journd till twelve o'clock to-morrow.

Group X.
LONDON AND YORK LINE.
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(Continued from our Afternoon Edition.)
Mr. Isaac Dodds, merchant, of Spalding— There are about
38,000 tons of coals annually brought into that town, of
which 2000 tons are consumed in the neighbour-
hood. The coals are brought from districts through
which the present proposed line would pass, and thus
materially facilitate the transit, and reduce the expense.
The country around Spalding was a very extensive
corn-growing district, and the communication between it and
Boston was considerable. A line of communication between
Boston and Lincoln and Stafford would be of great im-
portance.