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HORATIO RODD, commission agent, Great Newport-
street, Long-acre, to surrender Aug. 8, and Sept. 10, at half-
past one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Alsager, official as-
signee, Birchin-lane ; Collins and Rigley, Crescent-place,
Bridge-street, Blackfriars.

JCCIIN JENKINS, currier, Crown-place, Old Kent-road,
Aug. 9, at half-past twelve, and Sept. 11, at eleven, at the
Court of Bankruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Basing-
hall-street ; Williams, Alfred-place, Bedford-square.
GEORGE GRANTHAM, grocer, Manchester, Aug. 9
and 30, at eleven, at the Manchester District Court. Hobson,
official assignee, Manchester ; Messrs. Johnson, Son, and
Weatherall, Temple, London ; Dearden, Manchester.
JONATHAN BAIL, cabinet maker, Salisbury, Aug. 5, at
two, and Sept. 10, at two, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Green,
official assignee, Aldermanbury ; Kirk, Symond's Inn.
JOHN BARLOW, silk throwster, Congleton, Cheshire,
Aug. 16, at eleven, and Sept. 16, at two. at the Court of
Bankruptcy. Edwards, official assignee, Frederick's-place,
Old Jewry; Hudson, Bucklersbury, City.
JAMES SMITH, newspaper publisher, Southampton-
street, Strand, Aug. 9, at half-past twelve, and Sept. 6, at
two, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Belcher, official assignee,
King's Arms-yard, Moorgate-street; Maltby and Otter, Old
Broad-street.

SAMUEL MORRIS MASON, 'mister, Wigston Magna,
Leicestershire, Aug. 8, and Sept. 12, at eleven, at the Bir-
mingham District Court. Whitmore, official assignee, Bir-
mingham; Gregory, Leicester; Motteram and Giddy, Bir-
mingham.

NOTICES OF INSOLVENCY.
J. Barton, publican, Sheffield.
J. Farnell, cotton-warp-dealer, Bradford, Yorkshire.
D. Taylor, stone-mason, Bradford, Yorkshire.
G. W. Ward, farmer, Melton, Suffolk.
G. Roalfe, carpenter, Bishopsbourne, Kent.
J. Jones, tailor, Bath.
W. Gray, farmer, Romford, Essex.
S. Sadler, cheesemonger, Frederic-street, Regent's-park.
J. Smith, butcher, Congleton, Cheshire.
W. Sier, clerk, St. John's-square, Clerkenwell.
E. J. Holden, plumber, Green-street, Stepney.
E. Johnson, miner, Bilston, Staffordshire.
J. Robinson, clerk, Gloucester-place, Rlarylebone.
R. Elliott, cabinet-maker, Cheltenham.
T. J. Robotham, chymist, Burslem, Staffordshire.
T. J. Alger,coach-maker, George-street, Mile-end New-town.
J. Barraclough, wool-sorter, Rochdale.
W. Didcote, shoemaker, Cheltenham.
G. Butler, carpenter, Chipping-hill, Essex.
J. Morris, draper, Rawtenstall, Lancashire.
J. A. Neame, commission agent, Milton, Kent.
G. Jones, carder in a factory, Manchester.
R. Mount, saddler, Blackheath.
T. Brook, joiner, Birstall, Yorkshire.
W. Golland, pork butcher, Sheffield.
J. Hamnett, hatter, Grantham, Lincolnshire.
D. Wade, cloth manufacturer, Batley, Yorkshire.
M. Crabtree, cloth weaver, Bradford.
J. Orton, turf agent, York.
S. Henshaw, dealer in game, Manchester.
J. Hall, attorney, Manchester.
T. C. J. Egan, Meadow-place, Kennington.
J. Harris, blacksmith, Woodham Mortimer, Essex.
S. Brewer, victualler, Falmouth.
E. Metcalf, leather dealer, Liverpool.
R. Nash, miner, West Dean, Gloucestershire.
J. Suckling, tailer, Stebbing, Essex.
C. W. Bond, eating housekeeper, Long-lane, Bermondsey.
J. Dodd, brewer, Liverpool.
T. Hitchman, victualler, Kidlington, Oxfordshire.
J. W. Bellis, clerk, Union-street, Bishopsgate-street Within.
A. Greig, teacher, St. John's-wood-terrace, Marylebone.
J. Taylor, printer, Birmingham.
J. F. Leaver, cordwainer, Reading.
T. W. Nichols, painter, Tranmere, Cheshire.
N. Scholefield, woollen draper, Liverpool.
W. Curran, stevedore, Liverpool.
G. W. Roberts, accountant, Sambrook-court, City.
J. Cole, coach broker, Baildon-place, Deptford.
G. Huxstable, tailor, Wine-office-court, Fleet-street.
G. Saxby, victualler, Southwell, Nottinghamshire:
J. Walker, wheelwright, Caddington, Hertfordshire.
J. Rantell, wheelwright, Thaxted, Essex.
R. Pickles, victualler, Halifax.
G. Nye, surgical instrument maker, York-pl., Westminster-rd.
T. Donaldson, corn-dealer, Brick-lane, Bethnal-green.
SECOND NOTICES.
T. C. Buick, surgeon, Islip, Oxfordshire, Aug. 5, at two,
at the Court of Bankruptcy. Belcher, official assignee.
J. Brothers, Lieutenant R.N., Norwood, Surrey, Aug. 3, ai
eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Follett, cfficial assignee.
W. Eagle, clerk, Grove-place, Bethnal-green, Aug. 3, at
eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Green, official assignee.
G. Board, bricklayer, Lovegrove-street, Old Kent-road,
Aug. 5, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Turquand,
official assignee.
S. Gudgin, gun maker, Canterbury, Aug. 5, at half-past
one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Turquand, official assignee.
W. Cox, sen., assistant to a general dealer, Newington-
causeway; Surrey, Aug. 5, at two, at the Court of Bankruptcy.
Graham, official assignee.
E. L. Weale, wine dealer, Walcot-square, Lambeth, Aug. 5,
at two, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Turquand, official as-
signee.
M. Adams, rope-maker, Maldon, Essex, Aug. 7, at twelve,
at the Court of Bankruptcy. Groom, official assignee.
B. Polkinghorne, Plymouth, Aug. 8, at eleven, at the Exe-
ter District Court. Heineman' official assignee.
S. Yearsley, attorney, Leckhampton Gloucestershire, Aug.
5, at eleven, at the Bristol District Court. Hutton, officia
assignee.
DIVIDENDS.

At the Court of Bankruptcy, Basinghail-street.
J. Pledge, bricklayer, Vauxhall street, Lambeth, Aug. 23,
at eleven—E. Hayward, innkeeper, Castle Hedingham, Essex,
Aug. 20, at half-past twelve—L. Laughtod, brewer, Wisbeach
St. Peter's, Cambridgeshire, Aug. 23, at twelve.

In the Country.

R. Turner, fancy cloth manufacturer, Almondbury, York.
shire, Aug. 23, at eleven, at the Leeds District Court—S. B.
Lines, grocer, Halesowen, Shropshire, Aug. 22, at eleven, at
the Birmingham District Court—E. Thorneyeroft, jun., and
G. Thorneycroft, jun., iron manufacturers, Wolverhampton,
Aug. 22, at eleven, at the Birmingham District Court—J.
Webster, newspaper proprietor, Sheffield, Aug. 30, at eleven,
at the Leeds District Court.
CERTIFICATES to be granted, unless cause be shown to the
contrary, on the day herein-mentioned.
J. Baker, grocer, Romsey, Hampshire, Aug. 21—W. Lick-
fold, licensed victualler, Merrow, Surrey, Aug. 22—H. Wood,
woollen factor, Basinghall-street, Aug. 20—J. Heward, hay
salesman, Hendon, Aug. 23—W. Line, builder, Ramsgate,
Aug. 21--T. Carline, builder, Shrewsbury, Aug. 22—T. H.
Wetmore, grocer, Worcester, Aug. 24—J. Ward, coach maker,
West Bromwich, §iaffordshire, Aug. 24—J. Cormie, earthen-
ware manufacturer, Burslem, Staffordshire, Aug. 20—P. and
J. Cattaneo, jewellers, Reigate, Surrey, Aug. 20—J. Dowle,
wine merchant, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Aug. 20—J.
Foakes, market gardener, Mitcham, Aug. 20—J. W. Harris,
wine merchant, Wolverhampton, Aug. 20—J. Maclean, car.
renter, Somerset-street, Whitechapel, Aug. 20—G. Greatley,
jeweller, Hatton-garden, Aug. 20—W. Lynn, hotel keeper,
Liverpool, Aug. 20—R. Richardson, gambroon manufacturer,
Manchester, Aug. 20—D. Parker, hop merchant, Manchester,
Aug. 20—M. Ogston, watch maker, Davies-street, Berkeley-
square, Aug. 20—W. Brown, auctioneer, Rickmansworth.
Hertfordshire, Aug. 20—S. Meredith, linen draper, Liverpool,
Aug. 20—G. F. Squires, plumbers, Emmett-street, Aug. 20—
T. Adams, publican, Newport, Isle of Wight, Aug. 20—J. and
J. B. Monteliore, merchants, George-street, Mansion-house,
Aug. 20—C. Newton and C. Worssam, engineers, Kingsland-
road, Aug. 20.

PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED.
J. Bythell and J. Horsfall, calenderers, Manchester—W.
Blackford and W. H. Armitage, saw manufacturers, Sheffield
—J. T. tie Mattos and I. M. de Leon, merchants, Copthall-
court, City—B. France and J. Hallas, cotton spinners, Hud-
dersfield—C. Denby and G. A. Cator, rag merchants, Leeds
—R. and T. M. Clark, drapers, Epworth, Lincolnshire—.
H. G. Gordon, T. K. Finlay, J. Stokes, and A. S. Finlay,
Bombay (so far as regards T. K. Finlay)—C, Graham, J.
Lunn, J. Gwdery, A. Graham, and C. N. Graham, grocers,
New Bridge-street (so far as regards J. Lunn)—C. Collambell
and H. E. Beck, surgeons, Lambeth-terrace, Lambeth—R.
Wood and B. Fairburn, electrical instrument makers, Graves-
end—S. SmaUpage and W. Bracewell, cotton spinners, Burn-
ley, Lancashire—W. Pate, W. Robinson, and E. Pate, cabinet
makers, Burnley, Lancashire—J. M. Bennett and W. W.
Batchelor, woollen drapers, Worcester—E. and G. Garrett—
J. Lochhead and H. Gilchrist, chinamen, Great Queen-street,
Lincoln's Inn-fields—J. and H. Fullbrook, carpenters, Or-
mond-row, Smith-street, Chelsea—Field, Son, and Kell, stock
brokers, Warnford-conrt, Throgmorton-street (so far as re-
gards G. Kell ).
SCOTCH SEQUESTRATIONS.
JAMES SMITH, hotel keeper Wardie, Edinburgh, Aug.
8 and 29, at three, at the New Ship Hotel, Shore, Leith.
WILLIAAI LESSLIE, grain dealer, Strandhill, Linlith-
gowshire, Aug. 3 and 24, at two, at the Red Lion Inn,
Linlithgow.

The Ecclesiastical CommisSionen for England had a
meeting yesterday. The Commissioners present were
the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Bishop of London,
the Bishop of Ely, the Bishop of Lichfield, the Lord
President of the Council, the Earl of Besborough, the
Earl of Chichester, and the Earl of Harrowby.
IRON AND COAL IN AUSTRALIA.--Iron ores seem
to be so plentiful in Western Australia as to have attracted
the notice of the settlers in a variety of places, and to have
drawn out speculative inquiries as to the possibility of work-
ing the mines and subjecting the mineral to the manu-
facturing process by the agency of wood fuel. The Govern-
ment, it is , said, have offered a reward of 2,500 acres of
land to any one who shall discover coal ; but the more
urgent operations of the settlers have hitherto prevented any
attempt being made. We readily admit the importance of
such a discovery as that of coal, and could wish that the go-
vernment of this province were empowered as well as inclined
to encourage the finding so valuable an addition to our
available resources ; but, in our opinion (whilst we hate such,
stores of forest wood), it is not indispensable to the, produc-
tion of good iron from our own rich mineral.--Australian
Journal.

COMFETITION !—The Forth and Clyde Canal Com-
pany are now carrying passengers from Glasgow to Edin-
burgh for Is. in the steerage, and Is. 6d. in the cabin. If it
was not for the Canal Company, what would the fares to
Edinburgh by railway be?—Glasgow Saturday Post

HOUSE OF LORDS, July 30.
Their Lordships met at Five o'clock.
The Three-and-a-Half per Cent. Dissentients Bill
was read a third time and passed.
The Church Endowment Bill, the Ecclesiastical Juris-
diction Bill, and the Clerks of the Crown and Chancery
Bill, severally passed through Committee, and were re-
ported.
The Metropolitan Buildings Bill also passed through
Committee, and was reported.
The Privy Council Bill was read a third time and
passed.

LAW COURTS (IRELAND) BILL.
Lord WHARNCLIFFE, with some preliminary ob-
servations which were inaudible in the gallery, moved
the order of the day for the Committee on the Bill for
regulating the certain usages and practice of the courts
of law in Ireland.
Lord CAMPBELL objected to the appointment of
prothonotary and other officers by the Lord Lieutenant
or his secretaries, instead of their being appointed by
the judges of the respective courts. He would, at
another time, move an amendment for the purpose of
removing that objection.
The LORD CHANCELLOR defended that part of
the Bill, which he said was not a new enactment, as the
appointment of the prothonotaries had been vested in
the Lord Lieutenant.
The Bill then passed through Committee.
CATHOLIC PENAL LAWS REPEAL BILL.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said that he had been
requested by his Noble Friend near him (Lord Beau-
mont) to move the report of the Committee on the Bill
for repealing certain Acts imposing penalties on
Roman Catholics. He (the Lord Chancellor) had
carefully examined the Bill, and it did not pro-
pose to repeal any measure for the retention of
which there could be the least reason shown. The
motion was that the report be received. That motion
was made with a view to another—namely, that the
Bill be recommitted and in Committee it would be
competent to any Noble Lord, or Reverend Pre-
late, to state his objections to any part of it.
It was a strange objection, under the circumstances,
that the Bill was brought up at so late a period of the
session ; the fact being, that the Bill had been before the
House far two months, to enable every Noble Lord and
Rev. Prelate to examine its details. He defied any Member
of that House to Lay his hand upon any Act named
in this Bill which ought not to be repealed. The first
Act was the Act of Edward VI., the Uniformity Act,
which required every person attending a place of wor-
ship to use the Book of Common Prayer, and impos-
ing upon any person attending worship where the
service was not performed acceircling to that book, a
heavy fine for the first offence ; 'for the second, impri-
sonment for one year ; and for the third, imprisonment
for life. He did not propose to repeal the Act, but
only that it should not be obligatory on Catholics.
Could any one doubt the propriety of that ? The next was
the Act of Elizabeth, the Supremacy Act, which enacted
that if any one assumed that any person had ecclesias-
tical, spiritual, or temporal authority in these realm;
except the Queen, should for the first offence be punished
by the forfeiture of all goods and chattels ; for the
second, by imprisonment for life; and for the third by all
the penalties of high treason. The third Act imposed penal-
ties for not attending the parish church at least once a week.
Now, how could that law be retained after the Catholics
had been emancipated ? The sth of Elizabeth subjected
every one who denied the supremacy of the Sovereign at
once to a pramunire. How could any one say that this
Act should be retained in the present times ? The next
Act was, that any person who should be reconciled to
the Church of Rome should be guilty of high treason.
Another imposed the heaviest penalties uson any Ca-
tholic who should cause his children to be educated
abroad. Was it reasonable, that at this time,
such a law should be retained 7—(lear, hear.)
Another of those Acts prohibited any Roman Catholic
from departing more than twelve miles from his own
home, or approaching nearer than ten miles to the me-
tropolis.—(A laugh.) Would any one say tlit that
Act should not be repealed ? The 35th of Charles 11.
disqualified all persons who became converts to the
Roman Catholic religion to hold office ; another Act
prevented Roman Catholici from having arms in their
houses, or possessing a horse of the value of more than
5/.—(Laughter.) If a Roman Catholic was found to
possess a horse of greater value than that, the horse could
be seized and sold for that price.—(Hear, hear.) Who
would say that he did wrong in repealing that Act ?
(Hear, hear.) Now, if his Right Rev. Friend, who ex-
pressed on another evening some alarm for the security
of the Church on account of the proposed repeal of
these Acts, would state to the House the reasons which
convinced him (the Bishop of London) that any one of
those Acts should be continued, he (the Lord Chan-
cellor) would give up his opposition to it.—(Hear,
hear.) Ho had recommended to his Noble Friend
to allow his Bill, after passing through the Committee,
to stand over till the next session, in order
that it might be seen what the Government would do in
the meantime. But if his Noble Friend was not willing
to do so, he (the Lord Chancellor) would feel it his duty
to support the Bill.
The Bishop of LONDON did not wish it to be sup-
posed that he was opposed to the repeal of those penal
laws, which pressed, not practically, but in theory only,
upon the Roman Catholics. Apprehensive as he was of
being supposed to be a supporter of those obnoxious
laws, he was thankful to his Noble and Learned Friend
for giving him an opportunity of stating his reason for
opposing this motion. His Noble and Learned Friend
expressed an opinion that this was a subject
which it would be more fitting for the Govern•
ment to take up and consider in the course of
the approaching recess. As that was the fittest course,
and as their Lordships had almost an assurance from
the Lord Chancellor that it would be adopted, he would
protest against the measure being now taken up by her
Majesty's Government, at the end of the session,
without notice, and without consulting any of those
Members of their Lordships' House who were the
rulers and guardians -of the Established Church, and
who ought to be consulted upon matters affecting
so much the interests of that Church. Risking
whatever imputations might be cast upon his charity,
he would protest against the repealing of those statutes,
without giving the House time to examine how
far that repeal would affect other laws. It was to be
remembered that since the Reformation the constitution
of this country had been not only essentially Protestant,
but anti-Popish. The first time the bolwarks which the
Reformation had set up around the Church were broken,
was in passing the Catholic Emancipation Act. Their
Lordships should beware how far they went in breaking
down other barriers. In removing those which it was
now proposed to remove, they should be careful to as.
certain that none more essential to the interests of the
Church should be endangered by their removal. He
believed that in these observations he only expressed the
sentiments of le-20ths of the Protestant people of this
country. There was an Act—the 10th of Geo. IV.—
which provided that a Roman Catholic taking an oath
therein prescribed should not be liable to penalties under
the Acts referred to in the present Bill. No incon-
venience could be suffered from the delay of this Bill.
The Rev. Prelate concluded by moving as an amendment,
that the report be received that day three months.
Lord.BROUGHAM entirely concurred in the ob-
servations of his Noble and Learned Friend on the
woolsack, and he believed that the repeal of these Acts
would add to the security of the Church. Those laws
were only retained on the statute-book—were only
tolerated for an hour—on this condition, that they
should never by any accident be put in force. One of
these penal acts—the safeguards of the Established
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a penalty of 200 marks upon any
priest and 100 marks upon every one who
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attended mass ; yet mass was said in every part of
London every week, every day, perhaps, and Catholic
churches, some of them of great architectural beauty,
were erected in all parts, at the expense of the pious in
that persuasion.—(Hear, hear.) Would any one attempt
to enforce that cruel and absurd statute?—(Bear.) He
had only one objection to thepresent Bill which was, that
it did not go far enough ; and he hoped that in the next
session, the Government would bring in a much larger
and more comprehensive measure. A Noble Friend of
his who was now high in the diplomatic service of the
Crown, had recommended to Mr. Canning that the first
step towards emancipation should be to do away with all
those Acts of prwmunire, which prevented all commu-
nication with the See of Rome, and to establish such
diplomatic relations with that court as were maintained
by Prussia and other Protestant countries, on behalf of
their Roman Catholic subjects.
The Earl of WICKLOW believed from the turn the
disdussion had taken that it remained with his Noble
Friend (Lord Beaumont) whether or not this Bill should
pass or not.—(Hear, hear.) The Right Rev. Prelate
had alleged no argument against the Bill, but wished it
to be postponed, to make way for a larger Bill to which
there would be larger objections.—(Hear, hear.) It was
admitted on all hands, and not denied by the Right Rev.
Prelate, that those Acts were both useless and unjust.
He would support theßill, with the hope that at a future
time a more comprehensive measure would be passed.
Lord CAMPBELL would recommend his Noble
Friend to persist in the Bill as it stood.—(Hear, hear.)
He had listened with great pleasure to the precise and
accurate speech of his Noble Friend on the woolsack,
who had clearly and forcibly demonstrated that those
twenty. four Acts ought to be at once repealed.
Lord BEAUMONT said that very little remained for
him to do in respect to the Bill. After the lucid
speech of his Noble and Learned Friend on the Wool-
sack, it would be supererogatory for him to add one
word in support of the Bill. He would not have brought
forward the measure if he had seen her Majesty's Go-
vernment taking any steps towards the repeal of those
laws. But he had found support in her Majesty's Go-
vernment, especially in the Noble and Learned Lord on
the Woolsack, who was not deterred by the gross at-
tacks which were made on him by a public print, sup-
posed to be a friend to the Established Church.—(Hear,
hear.) But could it be doubted that his Noble and
Learned Friend was attached to the Established Church,
or that he was thoroughly convinced that the retention
of those odious laws in the statute book was useless to
the Church ? The Right Rev Prelate told the House that
there was provided by the 10th of George IV., an oath
which would protect Roman Catholics from those
acts of prcemunire. But did the Right Reverend
Prelate know that there was not one Catholic in one
hundred who was " qualified,"
as it was palled—that is,
who had taken the oath of the 10th Geo. IV. ? Indeed
no Roman Catholic ever thought of going to the courts
of quarter sessions to take that oath, which they would
consider an insult to their neighbours, as if they sus-
pected some informer would enforce against them those
prcemunire Acts if they were not qualified. The great
majority of the Roman Catholics in England and Wales
were at this moment liable to qui tam actions, and the
laws which he sought to repeal held out ample pecuniary
inducements to the informers.—(Hear, hear.) One Act
gave a reward of 1001 to any person who should convict
a " Popish priest of saying mass."--(Hear, hear, and a

THE RAJA OF SATTARA.
Mr. HUME moved for copies of all correspondence
relating to the deposed Raja of Sattara, which has taken
place between the Government of India and Major Car-
penter, the officer in charge of the Raja, from September,
1839, the time of his Highness' departure for Benares,
to the Ist of January, 1844. The lion. Member said it
had been his intention to submit to the House, in moving
for these papers, a short statement of the injuries of the
Raja of Sattara ; but as he had been informed that there
was no objection to their production he was unwilling
to take up the time of the House by entering into details.
Dr. BOWRING seconded the motion. This unfortu-
nate Prince had long been waiting for justice, and he
hoped he would not have to wait fur it much longer.
Mr. B. BARING said there was no objection on the
part of the Company to produce the return.
After some observations from Mr. Hoaci and Sir T.
COLEBROOKE, the motion was agreed to.
The Debtors and Creditors Bill was read a first time,
and ordered to be read a second time on Thursday.
The Transfer of Real. Property Bill was read a first
time, and ordered to be read a second time on Thursday.
THE COOPERS' TRADE.
Mr. HUME rose to call the attention of the House to
the depressed state of the coopers' trade in Great Britain,
and to move that the House would, early in the en-
suing session, take the petition of the coopers into
consideration, with the view of relieving them
from their present distress. Great changes' had been
made in our tariff, and the coopers considered that
their interests had been neglected, and their trade in-
jured. They complained that the colonial market had
been thrown open to the Americans, while a duty of 25
per cent. was maintained on the raw material used in
this country. It was, therefore, impossible for them
to compete with the Americans in the colonial market.
All that the British coopers wanted to prevent them-
selves and their families from being ruined was, to be
placed on the same footing with foreigners, with regard
to the raw material. The greatest benefit had
been experienced by those engaged in the cabinet-
making trade from the reductions which took place
in the duties on mahogany, Amboyna wood, and rose-
wood. If a reduction took place on the raw material of
the wood from which staves were manufactured, he had
no doubt the change would be soon beneficially felt by
the coopers.
Dr. BOWRING seconded the motion.
The question having been put.
Mr. GLAI)STONE said he was sure the Hon. Gen-
tleman did not desire to obtain the sense of the House
on this subject, and that his wish only was to raise a
discussion. He agreed with the Hon. Gentleman as to
the hardship which the coopers suffered, and he had
doubts of the expediency of imposing a heavy duty on
wood, or a class of articles like staves. He had said
that the coopers attributed their distress to causes
to which it was not to be properly attributed, and the
Right Hon. Gentleman appeared to him to be under the
impression that it was owing to the change in 1842, that
distress had fallen on them. He would not hesitate
to assert that their position was improved by the
change in the law which had taken place in 1842.
At the time the change was made he had reason to sup-
pose that the trade were satisfied with the arrangement.
He now came to the alteration of the colonial duties
and the duties charged on the importation of staves
into the West Indies. The parties said their position
was materially worse since the change in the law,
and to that they ascribed the distress under which they
were suffering. But the Hon. Gentleman was misin-
formed as to the extent of that change. The Hon.
Gentleman stated there was a prohibitive duty on
timber, which was not the case. A most exaggerated
degree of importance had been attached to the change.
The causes of distress must be sought for elsewhere.lt
arose from the falling off in the general production of
the West Indies, which had caused a diminution in the
importation of staves both from this country and the
United States. It arose in some degree also from the
decay of the whale fishery, which had been reduced to
an insignificant amount ; and another reason fur it
might be found in the high price of staves from the
Baltic. Another cause had also operated against the
trade in London. The great brewers had lately adopted
a new system of collecting their empty casks from the
publicans, in consequence of which the quantity of empty
casks in the cellars of the public-houses was much re
duced, and that acted injuriously on the coopers of Lon-
don. Again, a certain portion of the coopering of Lon-
don had been transferred to other places. The trade of
brewing had lately considerably increased at Burton-on-
Trent ; that had affected the trade of the coopers in
London; but, at the same time, the state of the trade was
at the present moment not so bad as it hal been repre-
sented to be. There had been a great increase in the
importation of staves during the first six months of the
present year as compared with the first six months of last
year. The duty paid on staves during the first six months,
of 1843, was 8,6691„ and during the first six months of
1844, it was 15,9001. This justified him in saying that
these figures showed at least a revival of trade. Then,
as to the benefi is to be derived from a reduction of duty,
he should be glad if he could re-echo the sentiments of
the Hon. Gentleman, and state, that since the alteration
in 1842, the furniture trade had revived. The declared
value of the export of cabinet ware in 1840, was 78,0001.,
in 1841 it was 76,0001., in 1842 it was 75,0001., in 1843
it was 80,000/, and during the first six months of 1844,
it was only 35,0001, showing a smaller amount of trade
than during any previous year, and showing it was not
so easy to get back a trade that was lost. The House
must not suppose that this question was free from diffi-
culty. It was not a mere question as to whether, by the
sacrifice of a revenue of 20,0001., they could save an im-
portant trade, but there were other trades in a position
analogous to that of the coopers. There were the ins-
porters of wood for the making of peeking cases. They-
paid a duty upon the raw material, whilst
foreigners imported their packing cases free
from all duty. Perhaps the Hon. Gentleman wonld say,
admit all packing-case wood free from duty.-- (" Hear,
hear," from Mr. Hume.) That might be all very well,
but the wood imported for this purpose might be ap
plied to very different purposes. Now, with regard to
the coopers, wood imported for staves might be used for
wainscot, and for other purposes. He did not say
that was any reason why the House should not take the
question into consideration ; but he would remind the
House that this was not a simple question on the subject
merely of the duty on staves, but that it wen into the
general question of the wood duties. He hoped that there
were symptoms of a revival in the coopers' trade ; and, at
all events, he believed that the coopers were not correct
in attributing the distress under which they were suffer-
ing to the continuance of the duties on staves, but that
that distress was attributable to other causes which were
in the course of removal, and he hoped that the coopers'
trade would soon be in a better state than it had been
for some time past.
Mr. HUTT thought that the question between his
lion. Friend and the Right Hon. Gentleman as to the
cause of the distress was matter of minor consideration;
the fact if the existence of that distress was
admitted by the Right Honourable Gentleman,
and that was the great point for considera-
ion. He had frequently called the attention of the

Right Hon. Gentlenian to the subject, and he had been
gratified to find that that attention had always been
earnestly and feelingly given.—(Hear, hear.) Ile ad-
mitted that this was no simple question. It was mixed
up with the question of West India distress, and with a
variety of other questions. Owing to this state of things
the coopers had become Chartists, and if he were a
cooper himself he should have great difficulty in not
becoming one. He would take every opportunity of
forcing this subject on the attention of the Government.
Mr. HUME replied. The Right Hon. Gentleman
bad not candidly stated the question at issue. The re-
lative situation of the coopers now and the coopers in
former years was not the question. His complaint was,
that no drawback whatever was allowed on the manu-
factured article, and without that not one single cask
could be sent out of England. There was a shop in the
Strand where the cooper's work from the United States
could be purchased at twenty per cent. under the cooper's
work of this country. As long as they levied a duty

FINE ARTS.
Mr. WYSE then presented the petitions of which he
had given notice of, from artists and friends to art, in
London and Dublin, praying the establishment of gal-
leries for the reception of casts, or the best works in
sculpture, from the earliest period to the present. He
recapitulated the statements in the petitions of the ad-
vantages that would arise from such an institution, and
alluded to the orderly and praiseworthy manner, in which
the people had behaved when admitted into collections
of works of art. Such a gallery, if made, ought to he
as complete as possible, and contain specimens of various
schools and ages, from the Egyptian and Persian, to the
Greek, the Roman, the mickeval, and modern schools. Its
influence on art would he important and salutary. The
Right Hon. Gentleman concluded by moving that an
humble address be presented to her Majesty, praying
that her Majesty would be graciously pleased to take
into her favourable consideration, the prayer of those
petitions for the establishment of 11 gallery for the pre-
servation of workS of art.
Colonel RAWDON seconded the motion.
Dr. BO WRING thought there was no person in this
country to whom art was so much indebted as his Right
Hon. Friend, and he hoped the motion would be as-
sented to.
Mr. ESCOTT agreed in what bad fallen from the
Honourable Gentleman as to the merit which was due
to the Right. Hon. gentlentan for the zeal which he ma-
nifested in Promoting the hive of the fine arts in this
country. He wished to know from the Hon. Gentleman
whether the decision of the Committee with respect to
the artists who had been solicited to execute works for
the Houses of Parliament was final ?
Mr. WYSE said that the Committee had selected cer-
tain of the artists whose works seemed to be the best, to
execute certain. works, but the Committee had taken
care not to bind themselves to take any one of the pro-
ductions of those artists.— (Hear, hear.)
Sir T. FREMANTLE did not think the House was
now in a situation to come to a proper decision on this
important subject, and to vote an address to her Majesty
upon a motion of which no notice had been given, lie
thought the Right Hon. Gentleman would do better to
withdraw his motion, looking at the state of the House
and the period of the session.
Mr. AGLIONBY thought it would be better that
S Hon. GenThetlemen- should be dismissed at once by the
peaker. Right Hon. Gentleman had not given any
reason why the motion should not be allowed to pass, ex-
cept the late period of the session and the state of the
House. He hoped the same reasons would prevent the
Government from pressing certain Bills which they had
declared their intention of passing.
Lord ELIOT did not think that the Hon. Gentleman
had dealt fairly by his Right Hon. Friend the Member
for Buckingham. His Right Hon Friend objected to the
motion because no notice of the motion bad been given,
and he had urged that the lateness of the session and the
state of the House were reasons why the motion should
not be pressed.
Mr. HUME would advise his Right Hon. Friend to
withdraw his motion, and to give notice on the subject
for next session. The honour of the country required
that the state of art should receive the serious attention
of the Government.
Mr. WYSE consented to withdraw his motion, which
was accordingly done.

SLAVE TRADE.
Mr. FOSTER moved for the following addition to
the return moved for by Viscount Palmerston, on the
16th of July:—" The *umber of slave vessels arrived
in the transatlantic States since 1814, their names,
description (as brig, schooner, or ship, &c.), masters'
names, tonnage, armament, number of crew, national
flag, whether empty or with slaves (whose number to be
stated), the loss by death on the voyage, from what part
of Africa arrived, the length of passage, and date of ar-
rival, o far as these particulars are known to her Ma-