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among these the greatest distress prevailed, an.'•,i,t, f I
doubt but this 'distress arose from the maladnnu% i:0,1
local Government. The Company were not the ton
swerable for these results. With respect to t oleo
made by the Company, he could only say that
to lii
been most flourishing, it had been brought to ruin
bent 'I
of the local Government ; and it was further to beot
the distress in the Company's districts was .n oil to
those districts immediately under the subjectio.osS,
ment. The colony was one of the greatest iirre4,l
under good government might become a source "'ld tY,;#l
to *e to this country. It had the finest climatropi:oo
soil of any islad on the face of the globe.
capabilities inn point of naval accommodatiea,,o oft)
harbours and means of fitting out ships, whichSl tst
might be most useful. He would not ra15•0001
whether or not the settlers went out advisedlysstres)l
were there, and must now be protected. The s;titiOse's
of them was so great that they had been ini;,fai'it
sole expense of the country; and although t
country were most depressed, they had eaPetilerstsj,"
public works, for the purpose of giving °Wei to St is'
poor people. Some of the colonists had escape we,
some to Valparaiso, but those that remaine° 6,010
misery. After saying that, he would in a
other papers connected with the subject, and
the affairs of the company before the House
tier concluded by seconding the motion. o,gee,
Mr. G. W. HOPE would fiesl
earnest manner against the course pursued bYesote,
too
ber who had just sat down. The Hon. Met,n7,solo)l
formation which a fortnight ago was at 1144- We' is
course pursued towards the Government by t"tbe ca` es
was most unfair. He stated he would bring „der
by bits, and ultimately bring the whole of it
of the House. The Hon. Member said he Yr:d:at%
occasion, raise the general question, but he
insinuated that the Colonial-office had been POP'
breach of faith. He went on to make chargestlacitei,
verment respecting their honour and public Oboe cZS
Mr. AGLIONBY said he had not made t.re sirs
'
had only stated that such allegations bad been 't
Mr. HOPE—No, the Hon. Member did 0.". belief
hut he made insinuations, and expressed hu'lie
That was precisely what he complained of. the 6';
papers was a mere pretence. All the papers _to far 11
was in possession of had been before the coti.rispest{
The subject had been adverted to in every newalifsincof
publication, a full statement regarding th's ite es
Zealand had been made, under the authority fore tho.
The whole question he repeated had been
and before Parliament, again and again. Gole':(1'!
even stated that it was the intention of the celoaiio
impeack the Noble Lord the Secretary for the binie'e,i'
conduct in these matters ; and it was even to Ise
reason why the Noble Lord left the House oroese,,
these charges. But what he chiefly co,,,mr I :WO'
charges were made out of the House by ourl' scherleei
they could not substantiate in the House.„Uo,enaii,
Member insinuated that Members of the
guilty of a breach of faith and want of honour,,_,! ebsiSre
that that Hon. Member should substantiate n'tho
avow it. Nothing could'be more unfair thlargetsres
Member's course in making certain random.' 0;0 014
Government, and then ing for Pape" es. ell'
from them some foundation for those shalt, tot f
rite..
cidence of untoward circumstances, they
land' ter°
obtain any official informationlfrom New ,te'ebe ° est.'
the debentures bad not been approved or 'S,Terti„i"rf
and were withdrawn, at the instance of the
of the iPteo
had not been done under the warrants eseei tag,
nor sanctioned by it. Respecting the 1°6,1,P° reffetlls'is
received any information, and, w""d,ire ",est,
recent outrages alluded to, the last ad -bee e
no further than to say that troops ha tii°osi'
Sidney for the purpose of repressngesy
With regard to the fifth head, all he had d been outfit
hs ro
the information the Government possesse- cselie
the House already. The Hon Member for ,
Aglionby) had taken a most extraordin!rteen 0,14
seemed desirous of attacking all that baectedoocv,l:,
seemed to imply that the Noble Lord had a, baflsl4,t,
statement, and even seemed to think that,iLerris
exparte statement of the very murderer hii"ittre
contrary, a magistrate had gone out to ing; fael'otirj
were, and had personally investigated th° o die
tiers,{,
of Islands. A difference had ensued betioetehe nt:eist,
the settlers. The former conceived that „sib) to°
fringed their rights, a conflict had ensued,: ostletiiefi'
happily, been shed. Every effort had hee„,tice'°iseffis4
the evils which had ensued, and to do I",sene l°
but some individuals seemed to think that ° ipte. bt t 4
was requisite than that which had been 45 tbel,
per judicial authorities. He (Mr. 11°Ps o
edueed
need scarcely refer to the disasters Prn re?' t
under such circumstances as these' "'",eideeeeol
r
refer to the little consideration, ,_' otet,an
want of all law, which necessardY
to f°0,040
who left their native country to settle in °feeling
earth, and he could not admit that the woo ess
that such collisions were unusual.
ti been 01,i
lisions had taken place, it had dteoisisocee
impossible to apply to this country for reohedtel
'What was the case in this instance? t'osatfei'etero4
colonists had settled among a people rucle'‘,3oP,Sitoilol,
and ab'ive all, deeply sensible of their righit.a, file 0, 11
uphold them. Was it to be expected Ws, ef
session of their lands, and with such hahltsosiga to is
them, that they would willingly or easiiYAdbanhfctoestr
Hon. Member for Cockermouth .7tbe
that the white man was neglected whll`, is ,
protected. The Hon. Member had allude) bsilb'e foci'
and had adduced letters which he supP°'.eo ial3leOs/1
to the colony, as if there was some collusigoe,
reo,is.4)o
(Mr. Hope) did not know whether the infc4,4'ol
Cockermouth had any peculiar mean' °oft. 100,,,
this he would beg to say, that if hse d t d„e, ior4
shading to the letters of the Noble l'er g
„eoti;ere;
Colonial Department, that there were uc" hicl3
„f ,bv.or,,
in this transaction, the contents --00ou' to
eluded in the reports. The s eelee;le
alluded to Mr. Shortlands, and had Asefeasle net on
that Gentleman's conduct had been im'els
casion. He regretted that Mr. Shortlau
nor $ re.
duced. Mr. Shortlands was acting-o°ll,
en his return had requested to be put on n't'oe
also spoken of Mr. Busb, and had wisheslot self ti
which that gentleman was able to gi",e, stiff
did not think that Mr. Busby was able by iii!be4
ea 01'
mation which was not already possess,' 00 tterlie
and the House. The Hon I+"' miser ha ;be le, re,
Cotes' letter, and se • -Je • that • %o' 51eo
seemed .to conceive , the
been transmitted to the colony, had hee°, dist I
Mr. Cotes' letters, When the fact iv,a-essre s (41
had been sent, nut to New Zealand
,espti,
tier
formation had ever been heard of. fnue; Otero Yo
the docu.,nents he found that Mr. Coteis)ers setitel:ll,l
ceived. thy day after the dispatch hadlion, ethatii„°;,ol,ll
Zealous', With respect to the obseroa;,, of tO
ber, upon the coincidence of the con°
not st 'JO( :lit
the letter of Mr. Cotes, he thought it nssir. 'or
for it was not at all surprising to him fe`oses-ril (od 100
persons writing on the same subject, %nye De,„o, 44
information, and entertaining Pre`,,olo9l" o,to AO,
views, should come to the same4oo': V.,' 07
themselves in very similar terms'to ober if,it
be .1
to the circumstance of sending for tr stime
the outrages, he must say that the °esredslibisti,sol
greatly confounded the facts, and he fr'.ei
to be wholly in the dark respecting the,e takeretee'iite
to the right of pre-emption, the our iore an the..
Government deemed it necessary to scbt, theW,„
this purpose had secured to itselafnt
jbetil/417toritto so:fl
of purchasing the waste lands,
vance. These had been the instrnet at oi boa' is° /I)
Normanby and not of the Govern
vase'ts ing.s
Hope) was a Member. He was ii°t J ll6 e;01
eferre ticre, $
those instructions, but he merely rnsite as
to so,losti
show how the system had arisen• id 300•
tamed that land had risen to 20s• an see' e. to ei
became discontented at the price hey re'
eith:ifero '0;1
comingly called upon the Governmet°o the 0 o°l'lif 1;m,
advanced price or leave them open doing grigia°iti'll.
sons who would do so. But their d West
iietber`psi
the colony without funds. The laf,. 5 }Io ,e, of,
and then an advance of 20s. an acv - gan.
,400,e.)‘0,
applied to the expenses of the colun''tbe si)
used in the transference of labour to }ire fs eee,
had been innsoduced by thed ennrestsalei 0°
es o'o
present Government, but it ha Lord he
the circumstances of the case, as se, ot',llL'istil
eo otherwise than apply the land.,fu' ail b th,ortliori
(Mr. Hope) was ready to prce ri obit!ois'6o‘ fsl4
subject; cud, with respect to the PaPehad ih.`oo of, 1,10
ber desired to have, he migliint
thbaeveroebsetsitl'oofirre;r4lii:loo
There was no information
which the Hon. Member cola 'whist] ha,sai
themselves ; and from the papers posit°-J
hvcii
(lowed, the House was practically in r).....s°oo,ose'es
Hon. Member required—( Hear, hebetter
the Hon. Member would have beeoo„_aners,riiiso6ibleorj
fr.ained from moving for a seriesa isle'rtiodoitois:o,oev)
different times, and bringing on an he 0%009
were as useless as they were uni, 10 t 10° d 'o°l
Noble Lord under whom he serve"' to Pe
; to ft)
he (Mr. Hope) intended to rinvehe
had bet
certainly apply for the whole or 'be ho erePoills
that the Hon. and Learned Mom ojed.aoo,l'/,11
course or else abandon his attempt. t iatederot
Mr. AGLIONBY explained tlito be %per!: 00,1'ise,0
Lieut. Shortlands; and he beg age for r 100e}
motions which he intended to ina tever. t' W
'on Wha t
wish to bring on any discussion
rese
tain information exclusively with disease Aff'",.ool",
Company, and his object was os th°s, be e 0
necessary to come at the real 'tat. j lisp Isies-egttilito
Mr. CHARLES BuLLER
,15:11 91,i00 0:$( 111
reprobate any attempt to Put _-toforav'effeet,i, i'loo,j
Hou.e in the endeavour to obtai!i, ,t was P
_cot
public circumstance. He thougm ?.seed,
004 isrla
Member of that House to make any todeeo ree, ordros
a subject for discussion, and it ditt:,ouid Pe4 ,010
any Member of any Government exP%isti, t sejod
question the right of any 3leinter
those
public affairs, or of any portion oth 6,, 1 Psriert,
it amid all those taunts whist., had De
ra.
ter,
etei:
Mention had been made of theses
otobleo, c,,,peeot
fr`,.,o;e,
and July last, and tit was unreis, siLte,llol
circumstances, to ask for We'', to '''bia• le's 11' ~44
Colonial-office. He did not Mica tDo
Member the Under-Secretary for y, but, bloi rtieV I
care or consideration for the 'ouPttsrfess, btu,
were called for, it was, he must C 0 11 the jr'be
crous to turn round and say that
readyo r.o 01
sensed was before the House, or
of n° 10131:i0of P;s00,
fact, the House was in possessionwras;oi
at least, of any information that Geistleinod• 10, 0110
—( Hear, hear,) be Hon• youse, t Ooyio,!`ep!,,iol.
papers were before the „ to
habe Vet "etra
mised them. He must say to
cerne the t .001
the Honourable; Gentleman tai
„lois eiKe
loose with the House. Why w corn' 1.005, tas's
were no less than six subjec:sfor Coel'oetsager
the Hon. and Learned 3lenibe os o 0_00;s,
airrinepeosoitfiolaanodf taxes,sales thead ctohnse nipitsoselvofattitee°;lool,e4vsi',,,,,Pi
had been said. Now, on five out_hiefore tbe 59
was absolutely no information _ eisptri%
it was the duty of Governinente,ucept !;vl;je,_,dll?
application for any othersp.er
,i!v;oeld, to.,etit dot oe
ed
table of the House, this,.l:_rtnieP.cco,t
answer from a great public (1..17,0t ao
House ? A statement was nuuie uno;ess• oeosi;rtiso
He n the be) a ° ?fell
to the correspondence. not as e ,il./or h
was, but he presumed that it vis gar. pot_.e i,te hp'
Hon. Member for Finsbury (Tii it We' 00/0"
other night—(Laughter)---anuogessione rarroissi
to
the Government could be in 1 that th isria
„a° '
that account. ;Was he to sagas ,he ja
ile)e(e
si
hAinnudsiefwtiatesyswaiedretnnboet b
,p'Nos'hseesrseede:t,
roe 00,
Mr. HOPE intimated his di ~e,"0000 stile o(iPssi
19
Mr. C. BULLER—Did the aid reiwot j,cl,roe iter
to contradict him ? sfj 11,esibribe°::01
not a single itom of information Hon
°n, 00
jects in the papers before t,b.:
the itat,'jeett.er mole tie
enter into any controversy that gres bdf ,11 „ti I°i
Secretary for the Colonies fP, he 0
teas 10' col
which he had to compinin wa'd schio_l,,th,re tit', tor
larger question. The matter land cmd,
was not the ill usage of New Zeatbe ire iss
nies—of the utter ignortanceh---the &Ton tbs
of every person connecteu with to
themselves, from the Governor r