The Sun.
London, England, 1817-12-17 00:00:00

" CHAMBER OF DEPUTIES, DEC. 13.

ce On the report of the Committee on Petitions,
the Chamber passed to the Order of the Day on the

'Petition of the 'lienetal Bury St Vincent ;in-
chided in the Ordonnance of the 2.4 th July 1815.
" The discussion on the litiv respecting the
Press was resumed-.

" hi. -Boordeau expressed himself itrint4Chl to
the idea of interposing Juries for the trial of the
offences created by this Projet, contending that
they must wait for an age of light and truth be-
fore they entrusted to Juries the offences of the
press.—(This phrase excited some murmurs in the
assembly.) --They • must wait, It said, like
tire English, for an age of firm establislunehLand
prosperity.—(Laughter.)—After observing that
the Tribune of the Chattber was the principal
guarantee of liberty, he concluded by supporting
the Projet, but proposing tb amend. Article 18,
by sending the affairs direct to the Cours Royales.
" M. Casimir Perrier opposed the Projet, con-
tending, that if it passed ih its present shape into
a law, neither abuse of the Liberty of the eresi, nor
the.repression of it, would be possible, as the li-
betty itself would be destroyed.—(Laughter.)--
He maintained, with respect to the trial of offences
of the Press, that Judges were no better qualified
than Juries to try them ; and with regard. to Jour-
nals, he contended that, from the system now pro-
posed respecting them, the result must be an uni-
versal oppression, as the freedom of the Journals
could alone guarantee the independence of tire
Press, ha therefore opposed the Projet.
" M. Sitmion, Comnrissaire du Roi, maintained,
that with the exception -of .the restraint upon the
Journals, the Projet tended to soften the rigour
of the existing laws regarding the lioblic Press.
He opposed the interposition of Juries, contend-
ing that they could not try offences-of tire Press
which were beyond all definition, and c3tild only
be estimated by enlightened Judges.
" M..Hernout denied that the Projet.tendedei.,
thee to secure the liberty of the press, or to re-
press its abuses. He advocated juries, claimed
an entire freedom for the journals, and opposed
the Projet.
" M. Camille Jourdan contended, that tire
tervention of Juries was necessary with regard to
offences of the press, to prevent the arbitrary
measures which would otherwise arise (ruin the
• appreciation of such offences. Of these of-
fences the description of men, who would usually
constitute Juries, would be the best :lodges. He
denied, with respect to England, that the Trial by
Jury, with regard to the Press, had caused fre-
quent Suspensions of the Habeas Corpora. Every
one knew, on the contrary, that these suspensions
had been caused by the progress of the French
Revolution. As to any objection founded on the
errors of Juries, government would have ample
means in their bands, independent of these, to
kecp down the Press. He supported, therefore,
the Projet, provided the Trial by Jury were sub-
stituted for that by Correctional Tribunals.
" The diseussiou Was adjourned .till Monday,
for which day also the President announced a com-
munication from the Ministers relative to the
Bridget.
" Pants, DEC. 14.—An individual who.had ar-
rived at Paris, was arrested yesterday at the Hotel
de Mayence, Rue de Courty. He is charged with
committing a rubbery in London to the amount
of 300,000 francs ; 160,000 francs were found
upon him.
" The current report • for some days in the
-Northern Departments of France has been, ac-
cording to the Lausanne Gazette,' that unless un-
foreseen circumstances happen, or the negocia-
dons on foot should not have the desired effect,
the Army of Occupation will be diminished in the
course of next spring, so that there will only re-
Main the contingents of the four Great Powers.—
Those of Bavaria, Wurtemberg, Hanover, Saxony,
and Denmark will in that case return to their
homes.

" FIVE PER CENTS.

" Saturday 64 f. 5c."

• The rumours of a negociation between Spain
and her Colonies seem to gain ground, and to-
Wear a credible shape. We sincerely hope, that
the negociation may really be carried into effect,
and that perfect harmony may be restored. Such
a result would be beneficial to Europe, as well as
to Spain and the Colonies in question. The Times
of this day says, that it is " far from being 'san7
guine in the belief that the Colonies will now ac-
cept the same terms with which they might once
have been satisfied." But here we conceive that
The times aeems to place too much confidence in the
reports which have been issued by the Insurgent
Leaders in the South American COlonies, which
most probably have been gross exaggerations,
and in which they have artfully disguised their
own defeats, and misrepresented the strength of
the Royal Forces. Those Insurgent Leaders are
chiefly desperate adventurers, %vitt), unable to raise
themselves into importance at home, endeavoured
to rise upon the disorders which clicy created it,

otbet -eon :tries. It is hY no means impro-
bable, that the inhabitants at large pant for re-
pose, and the renewal 6f thereantile ipterCimrsse
with Europe. A liberal Amneity therefore offer-
ed by Spain, follOWed by a negociation, founded
on an equitable basic, might perhaps soon restore
peace and amicable relationa with the Parent
State. bur CippOAikiOn Writers have zealously,
from a congeniality of principle, taken by
the cause of the Rebel Leaders, and 'vaunted their
successes. But it may be asked, what confidence
can the Colonists place in the Revolutionary
Leaders, who can have little interest in the dis-
putes with the Mother Country, except in relation
to their own advancement to power ? We find that
Alms has been driven from post to pillar, and
Alt GREGOR has not been more successful. The trinh
is, that no well-authenticated dispatches have ar-
rived from the quarter in question; anti such a ne.
gociation as is said to be in contemplation,
seems indeed the, only measure, likely to elicit
truth, and produce the happy result of Mu-
tual concession. We know that the same mis•
representations have been directed against Yea-
DINAND the Seventh by Foreign Misereano, and
Our Party Writers, who have described him as
frivolous in his pursuits and tyrannical in his dis-
position ; but we have been assured in a quarter
upon which we are inclined to place great re-
Hance, that he is very amiable in Iris private cha-
racter, and that be endeavours to mould his con- '
duct as a Sovereign by the model of his Grand-
father, who has always been admired as the
best and wisest Monarch that Spain ever possessed.
It is certain that FERDINAND is beloved by his
subjects at home, and it is therefore probable
that he would not be less regarded by the Colo-
nists if they' were thoroughly acquainted with his
character, and fully cware of his benignant in-
tentions. has severely tasted of adversity, and
by all accounts the lessons derived from than best
of schools are not thrown away upon him, but
would appear in good fruit, if his virtues had scope
enough to be ripened into action.

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'.rbis morning we received American Papers,
but not of so late a date as those which had pre-
viously arrived.

(From .the Yew York Commercial -4tlverti„Ter of Nov. Is.)

The following is, an Extract of-a Letter from a
Gentleman at Savannah, dated Nov. 8, to hit
Friend in Philadelphia :—" Thv present has been
the most sickly season ever known here. As many
as 15 a day have died ; to-day there are five
deatlit. A sudden change from extreme heat to
cool weather has taken place ‘vithin the law 4S
(tours, and I hope in my next I shall be able to
give yon a more favourable accbunt of the health
of this place."

h e latest accounts from New York have been
received by the American ship Tontine, Captain
TURLEY, which vessel has made her passage to
the London Duck gates in 21 days ; she brings
intelligence that the crops of Rice are more abun-
dant in the United States than were ever known ;
Flour was at 6 to 7 dollars a barrel ; Anxrican
6 per cents. 107 ; Exchange on London 134 per
cent. advance. Capt. TURLEY would have been
in the River in 15 days, from New York, had it
not been for the great fog, which compelled him
to lay, too in the Channel. lie has, however,
made the quickest passage to London that was
ever known.

The Franklin, 74, American man of war, ar-
rived yesterday at Portsmouth, having Mr. itusn,
the Minister of that Country, and family on hoard.
This ship is of the burthen of 2500 tons ; she is
going to"the Mediterranean to join the American
Squadron.

The Company's ships B, ::!aewater and llereford-
shire arrived at Madras the 26th June.

Intelligence from India received yesterday con-
firms the statement,' that a country ship, named
the Palladium, had been spoken with by the Eliza,
and that the former reported her having on board
a Government GEzette, containing the official an-
nouncement of the concht,,ion of peace With the:
Government of Poonah. That dispatch is now ar-
rived in England,. being copied by the Bombay
Editors from the Calcutta papers.. The terms of
the arrangement are not publicly known ; the
Proclamation only stating that the '' Governor-
General has the satisfaction, to announce the ex-
ecution of a new Treaty with the PcisnAw, ex-
plaining and amending the articles of the preced-
ing one, and containing certain provisions calcu-
lated to improve the alliance, and to promote and
render permanent the harmony which both Go-
-vernments -are solicitous to maintain." His Ex-
Cellency also makes an excursion from Calcutta,
with a view to give practical effect to the peace-
ful arrangements which have been signed and
sealed. Mr. EnmoNsToNE has been left at Fort
William, with the title of Vice-President and De-
puty Governor, during the Governor's_absence..

Parliament was yesterday formally prorogued
by Commission till the 27th of Jaimat y.
Dispatches for Sir CHARLES STUART. at Paris,
were yesterday evening sent off 11'0111 Lord CAS.'
TLEREAGEL'S Office.