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himself was more indebted for his position in the army to his
birth than to any merits of his own.—(Cries of" Order.")
Lord ARTHUR LENNOX could assure the Hon. Gentle-
man that during the twenty-four years which he had been
connected with the army, he had always followed his regiment
wherever it had been quartered. He would not say more than
that he was ccnvinced the Gentlemen on the opposite side of
the House were wrong in supposing that any jealousy existed
on the part of the officers of the line with respect to the officers
of the Guards.
Captain B. 'OSBORNE thought that his Hon. Friend near
him (Mr. Hume) snowed too much sensitiveness on the pre-
sent occasion. His Hon. Friend was generally so good-
humoured, that they did not know how to draw him ut ; but
at last they discovered that his weak side was Middlesex.—
( Laughter.) With regard to what his Hon. Friend said of
the Noble Lord opposite respecting his promotion, he (Captain
Osborne), who had served with the Noble Lord, could say
that he was entitled to his promotion long before he got it.
Mr. HUME said that he could name persons who were ten
years longer in the service than the Noble Lord, and who did
not get promotion ; but he did not wish to create any jealous
feelings, so he would not name them.
Colonel WOOD said that though the Hon. Gentleman was
not Member for Middlesex, he was glad he had a seat for
another place, where he could be as useful to the country as
ever. He did not mean anything personal in saying that the
motion of the Hon. Member was revolutionary. He believed
it was perfectly Parliamentary to characterise a motion by that
epithet.
The vote was then agreed to.
155,099/. was voted to defray the expenses of the staff officers.
89,412/. was voted to defray the expenses of the officers in
the different military establishments throughout the country. 1
13,200/. was voted for the Royal Military Asylum and the
Hibernian Military School.
83,168/. was voted for the Volunteer Corps.
53,593/. was voted for former unpaid services.
14,148/. was voted to defray the expenses paid for distinguished
services.
73,000/. was voted for the expenses of general officers not
being colonels of regiments.
62,000/. was voted to defray the expenses of full pay to re-
tired officers.
On the vote of 341,0001. being proposed for the cost of re-
tired half-pay officers,
Sir H. DOUGLAS said he believed the time had come when
be should, according to the notice he had given, call the at-
tention of the Committee to the cases of regimental staff offi-
cers, surgeons, paymasters, and quartermasters, with a view
to allow them to retire on their full pay, after thirty years' ser-
vice. This could be effected at a small expense, and he only
threw it out at present as a suggestion, which he hoped would
be adopted on a future occasion. He thought that, after
thirty-five years' service, the officers he had named should be
enabled to retire on full pay, and he hoped all Hon. Members
would concur in the justice of his motion.
Capt. B. OSBORNE wished the Gallant Officer had included
veterinary surgeons. The whole thing was so small, and would
conduce so much to the efficiency of the army, that he thought
the House should not refuse it.—The vote was agreed to.
A vote of 52,252/. was then proposed for the half-pay re-
duced allowance of foreign officers and the widows and orphans
of foreign officers.—The vote was agreed to.
A vote was then proposed of 141,8481. to defray the ex-
penses of the widows and orphans of officers of the land forces.
Agreed to.

A vote of 105,000/. was then proposed as an allowance for the
compassionate list.—Agreed to.
A vote of 920,553/. was proposed for Chelsea and Kil-
mainham Hospitals.—Agreed to.
A vote of 38,5001. for superannuated allowances was pro-
posed.—Agreed to.

NAVY ESTIMATES.
Mr. CORRY proposed a sum of 1,289,5131. for the wages
of seamen and marines.
Captain PECHELL said that he wished to call the atten-
tion of the Committee to the situation of captains' clerks in the
navy. They were called upon to perform eminent and im-
portant services, and they received for these the most paltry
pay. They had scarcely any hope of advancement, and having
no rank in the navy, were subordinate to the smallest mid-
shipman or the lowest officer, although they messed with mates
and midshipmen. The pay was now but 561. per annum for
the highest, and 521. for the lowest, and he thought their situ-
ation deserved the attention of the Admiralty.
Sir G. COCKBURN said there were great difficulties in
the way. The captains had the appointment of their own
clerks, and might appoint whom they pleased, and discharge
them when they pleased, so that the Admiralty had no control
ever them. The clerks who passed were taken care of in the
navy, and the Admiralty had a hold of them, but that was not
the case with captains' clerks. It would not be easy to say
that no clerks should enter the navy except through the Admi-
ralty, because if they required a captain to take a clerk under
ouch circumstances, the captain might very reasonably say,
" Then you must not hold me responsible for this man's acts."
He did not know whether a half-pay system might not be
adopted, with proper restrictions, but great difficulty existed
in adopting the extensive changes suggested by the Gallant
Officer, on account of the number of applications for situations
of this description.
Sir C. NAPIER admitted that it was extremely difficult to
make any material arrangement on this subject, but he did not
see any difficulty in the Admiralty appointing clerks after they
had passed their examination, and then holding them responsi-
ble. He did not think the captain would have any objection to
the Admiralty appointing clerks in this way, provided the clerk
was held responsible.
Mr. WILLIAMS thought that persons vvh3 were employed
for a short time as clerks by captains and then dismissed, had
no claim to support afterwards at the expense of the public, but I
if they were placed upon the establishment, they then acquired
a right to a provision for their subsistence. 1
Captain PECHELL said what he wished was, that this
class of persons should be made respectable, taken from the
list, and rewarded with a modicum of half-a-crown a-day when
the Admiralty could not give him a ship.
Mr. lIUME hoped the Gallant Admiral would state what
cheek there was to preveLt extravagant expense. In some
ships the expenses were so great as to more than swallow up a
young man's pay.
Sir G. COCKBURN said directions had recently been is.
sue.' to commanders of vessels to inquire into the state of the
messes, their expenses, and general management, and to exer-
cise their discretion in controlling them.
The House then resumed.
The CHAIRMAN reported progress, and obtained leave to
sit again on Monday.
The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the
House adjourned at a Quarter to One.

LLOYD'S SHIPPING.
EAST INDIA SHIPPING.
Arrivals at Calcutta-Clifton, Feb. 8, from Bristol ; Proto-
melia, from Newcastle; Mary Somerville, from Liverpool ;
Romeo, 9th, from Greenock ; Windsor' 17th, from London ;
Audax, from China; Nitts, 18th, from Ceylon ; Coromandel,
19th, from Greenock; Palatine, from Liverpool; Duke of
Wellington, from Alloa.
Departures from Calcutta-Fire Queen, steamer, Feb 17,
to the Straits; Queen, 18th, Tudor, 19th, to Lond9n ',;'ernon,
put back, 9th, with loss of cutwater.
Arrivals at Madras-Emily, Feb. 13 from Newcastle
Deva, 15th, from Liverpool ; Lady Fl.ora, 15th, from Cudda-
lore ; Duke of Argyll, 7th, ; Glasgow, 21st, from
Glasgow.
Departures from Mo.`i,ras--Her Majesty's ship Pilot, Feb. 15,
to Trincomalee: I:rances, 17th, to Barbadoes ; Worcester,
19th; Diana, and Duke of Roxburgh, to China;
Irtathilde, to Bordeaux.
Arrivals at Aden-John Line, March 1, from Madras; her
Majesty's ship Serpent, 9th, from Bombay.
Departure from Aden-Niagara, March 4, to Bombay.
Arrivals at Hong-Kong-Java, Dec. 21, from London ;
John Christian, from Liverpool ; Eagle, 22d, from Bristol ;
Annie, 24th, from Sydney; Isabella Anna, from Hobart
Town ; her Majesty's ship Vestal, 27th, from Sydney ; Advo-
cate, 28th, from Bombay; Alligator, Jan. 4, from Shanghae;
Packet, from Calcutta; Mary Ann Webb, from Shanghae;
Sarah, from Sydney.
Departures from Hong-Kong.-Hersey, Dec. 17 ; Path-
finder, 17th ; John Laird, 22d ; Eagle, 22d ; Lady, 23d ;
Royal Albert, 29th; Lysander, 31st ; Forfarshire, Jan. 1 ;
Castle Eden, 5 ; all to London ; Vanguard, Dec. 22, to
Manilla ; Eleanor Russell, 31st, to Manilla ; Kestrel, Jan. 6,
to Sydney; Penang, to Liverpool.
Arrivals at Colombo.-Africa Feb. 14, from Calcutta ;
Sharp, 15th, from Shields and dalle.
Departure from Trincomalee. - Broad Oak, Jan. 2, to
Liverpool.
Arrivals at Bombay.-linaun of Muscat, Feb. 16 ; Linton,
23 ; Murray, 24 ; John Moore, 28 ; Competitor, March 1,
all from Liverpool.

WINDSOR STEEPLE CHASES.
WINDSOR, THURSDAY EVENING—SECOND DAY.—The
course to-day was not attended by more than one-fourth of
the number of persons who were present during the afternoon
of yesterday. The company, however, included a great pot--
tion of the nobility and gentry of the neighbourhood, and
several sporting characters from the metropolis and its vici-
nity. The racing, which was excellent, came off as follows :
A Sweepstakes of 5 SON'S each, p.p., for horses bona fide the
property of officers in the Army or Navy, or members, or
sons of members, of White's, Crockford's, Boodle's, New
Cioxton Park, Bibury, Glinton Park, or members or sons
of members of a racing or hunting club ; to be ridden by
the same, or professional riders, if approved of by the
stewards. To carry 12st each, and thorough-bred horses
71b extra. Horses that never started prior to this meeting
allowed 71b.
Mr. H. N. Penrice's ch g Duprez
Lord Glamis's 'u li Bucephalus
Mr. Flemming's b m Danseuse
Mr. Innes's b g Deception (late Fire King) 0
Capt. Powell's ch g Regalia 0
At the start Bucephalus took the lead over the hurdles and
first rails and fence, followed closely by Regalia, who first
cleared the brook, and kept well in advance the first time
round the corner, being at least three hundred yards
ahead on passing the Grand Stand, followed by Duprez
next, and the others far behind. Regalia, who ap-
peared safe to win, refused the first fence leading off the
course, bolted at the brook, thus losing all chance of winning,
and was walked back. Deception threw a shoe, after taking
the brook a second time, and was pulled up. The race
was then between Duprez and Bucephalus, both horses
being neck and neck oycr the last three fences on to the
course.
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the jockey who rode the winning horse. He was objected to
before starting, but upon an appeal being made to the
stewards, the objection was overruled. At the Grand Mili-
tary Steeple Chase, at Northampton, on Thursday last, Re-
galia ran second to the winner, Box-keeper, and was then
beaten by only half a length.
A Sweepstakes of 2 says each, with 10 added, by subscription,
for horses that have been the property of farmers and
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same. The winner to be sold for 50/
The selling articles as the 2d and 3d race. of the first day.
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the brook, when Monarch took the lead. The rider of Jamie
was thrown in taking the third fence after the brook, and
appeared to have lost all chance ofwinning • the horse fall -
ins-, with his off fore knee on his chest,. and strikig him
with his hoof, drawing blood under his ear. Monarch, how-
ever, in the first round, having gone the wrong side of one of
the turning flags, had, to win, to go a third
time over the
course, and notwithstanding he had to perform this additional
mile and a half, he beat Jamie by at least 300 yards. There
was some dispute as to the stakes, but upon an appeal being
made to the stewards, they were awarded to Monarch-
A Scurry Stakes of 1 soy. each, with 5 soy. winner to be sold, if claimed, fur 25/-
added. The
being the same as the twn - - , the rules of claiming
llst. Once round selling stakes of the first day.
Mr. W. 0- • ale Military arse.
. ,eott's Algar, out of Gift (Owner) 1
air- Langton's b g Conspirator
Mr. Foster's ch in Haidee, aged... ********* ..(Templeton ) 3
Mr. Clive named Miss Fidget (Cannon) 0
Alger won in beautiful style, beating Conspirator by only
half a length, Haidee being about five lengths in the rear.
A second Scurry Stakes was afterwards got up, of 1 soy.
each and 5 added, by a gentleman on the ground, which were
won by Mr. T. Carter's ch h Sampson, beating two others,
belonging to Mr. Fagg.

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