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MESSAGE

FROM TSB PRRSIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
TRANSMITTING EXTRACTS FROM THE CORRIFoN-
.
DRNCE,OF MR. PINKNEY.
To the Hooke or Representatives otthe United States,
Agreeably, to the request expressed in the re.inki-
tion of the I 3th lust. I fay heforo the House extract
from the Corre,;pontience of the Minister Pleni,.o-
- of the United States at London.
Dec. 16, 1869.

JAMES MAUI

BRIEF ACCOUNT
Of an unofficial Conversation between Mr, CA NNINr.
FINKNEY, on the ISM of January, 11809, contin.44
2.2i1 of the same month. [Transmitted by Mr. I'IN c
to the secretary of State.]
I dined at Mr. Canning's with the Cnrpt D
plomnlique on the ititth January. Before ditiner,h
came up tome, and entering into conversation, ad-
verted to a report which he said had reached him,
that the American. Ministers (here ani in Feitice)
were about to be recalled. I replied, that I wa,z,not
aware that such a step had been resolved upon.
‘( He then took me aside, and observed, that ac-
cording to his view of the late proceedings of Con- "
gress, the resolutions of the House of flepresewx-
fives, in commlitee of the whole, appeared to Lis •
calculated, if passed into a law, to remove the - im-
pediincnts to arrangement with the United States,
on the subjects of the Orders in Council. and the
Chesapeake, by taking away Ohl disci
tween Great Britain :and France in the exolw.;ion of
vessels of war from the American ports. - He ac.l,ktd
that it ova, another favonrdble ciectimslance that the
non-importation systent which sett;noct to ly;!
contemplation, was to be applied erpt,lly to both
.parties, in,tead of at-re:Ail-1g as heretof,,re Great .
tam alone.

" I proposed to Mr. Ca fining, that I shoill-1 cad
on hirer in the cnur,,e of a day, or two, for the pur-
pose of a fre:!. cOmmonication, upon wilat Ins It td
suLrgested. To this he, readily assented ; it-was
set tied that -I'shonld see him on the
jog (the 22d) at twelve o'clock, at his own house.
In the interview of the E 2 2d, Mr. Cannin;.t's im-
pressions appeared to respects ihe same withthose which he had meioloned,ati the I sth ; and
fi
said every thing which I thought
.consistent
candour and dierction, to confirm him in his,clisoo-
stion to seek the re-estiblishment of goo l u•id,
stinding with us', and especially to see in the ex-.
peeled of Congress, if it stould pass, an opening
for reconciliation.
" It was of some importance to turn their at-
tention here, -without loss of time, to the manner
of any proceeding that might be in their contempla-
tion. It seemed thatethe,resolutioris of the House of
Representatives, if ena6ted into a law, might renThr
it proper, if not indispensable; that the affair of
the akesapeake should be settled at the sank
time with the business of the Orders and Einbirgo,
and this I understood to be Mr, Canning's opinion
and wish.' It followed that the whole matter ought '
to be settled at Washington),and, as thiS was moreover,
desirable on various other grounds, I suggested that
it Would be well, in case a speedy mission did not
meet their approbatiion, - that the necessary powers
should be sent to Mr. Erskine.
In the course of the conversation, Mr. Canning
proposed several questions relative to our late pro-
posal ; the principal were the two following:—
I. In case they should wish ether through tne or
tbrcugh Mr. Erskine to meet us upon the Wok of
our late overture, in what way was the effected.
operation of our embargo as to France, &c. after it
should be taken off as to Great Britain, to be se-
cured. It was evident, he said, that we should do
no more thae refuse clearances for the ports of
France, arc. or prohibit, under penalties, voyages
to such ports, the effect which my letter of the
23d of August, and my published instructions, pro-
posed to have in view, would not be produced; for
that vessels although cleared for British ports, might,
when once out, go to France instead of coming
here ; that this would in fad be so, (whatever the
penalties which the American laws might.denounce
against offenders) could not, he imagined, be doubt-
ed ; and he therefore presumed that the Govern.
rnent of the United States would not, after it had
itself declared a commerce with France, Ste. illegal,
end its citiiers who should engage in it, delinquents,
and after having given to Great Britain by compatt
an interest in the stria, observation of prohibition, -
complain if she naval force of this country should
assist in preventing such a commerce. '
ed, He asked whether there would be any ob-
jection to making the repeal of the British orders and
the. American embargo cotemporaneous ? He seem;
ed to consider this as indispensable. Nothing could .
be less admissible, he said, than that Great Bri•
taiu, after rescinding her orders, should for any
time, however short, be .left subject to the em-
bargo in common with France, whose decrees
were subsisting, with a view to an experimetit
upon France, or with any other view: The
United States could not, upon their own prin-
ciples, apply the embargo to this country one mo-
ment after its orders were revoked, or decline after
the event to apply it exclusively to France, and the"
Powers contented with her system.
I took occasion towards the close of our coc-
versation to mention the recent appointment of Adni.
Berkeley to the Lisbon station. Mr. Canning, said
that whatever might! be their inclination' to con •
suit the feelings of the American, Covernment 'en
that subject,. it was inapossible for 'the Admiralty
to trOott the. claim of_ that officer to be employed
(,!.• i,r objection existing against him), atter
'apse of time since his return from Halifax,
hoot blititing him to a Court-martial. The usage
--the tatty *Win this respect different from that
lief the army.' fttit I understood Mr. Canning to
.* that he might OM be brought 'to a Court-
tututial'itlthUegh I did. not understand him to say
EOW be "Ae ease.. He said that Admiral
Berkeley, in" what be had done, had [acted
wholly Iwithdut *authiett. I did not propose
to enter into any diSttittion upon the subject, and
therefore contented myself' with speaking of the
appointment as unfortunate.
• ‘‘ In both of these conversittlonsMr. Canning's
latiguage anct, manners were iu the highest degree
conciliatory."