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London, England, 1810-05-23 00:00:00

THE DUKE OF BRUNSWICK

In a Committee on the Bill for granting a Pen-
sion to his Selrene Highnesi) Lord HOLLAND renew-
ed, his questign respecting the fund from which it
was to be taken. He wished to know the amoutk
of the Droits of Admitalty, and whether there was a
sufficiency in that fund to ineet this demand, pther-
wise it must no doabt fall upon the citi it List. If
it was agreed to lay before the House ati Ilccoutit of
the sum to which the Droits of Admiralty amount-
ed,' he should not press any motion_on the subjett\
until that account was before the House. ' •

The Earl of LIVERPOOL. would' not oppose' the
production of that account; but neither would he
pledge himself that the pension would be paid out_
of that fond; It was more probable it must be
paid out of the Civil List.
Lord Cagy coincided In opinton with Lord H:)1=
land, and upon an agreement th3,t the amount of the
Droits of the Admiralty :thoulti be laid before the
House, as farther objection would for the present
be made against the Bill.—Adjourned.

ROUSE OF COMMONS,

TUESDAY, MAY 22.

On the Motion of Mr. P. MOORE the Drury-lane ,
Bill was read a second time, and-cominitted. '
A Message 'front the Lords anpoonteti their Lord-
ship's concurrence with the- Exchequer
.Bills Bill,
the Irish Stage Coach Bill; the Irish Malt. Bill, and
several private Bilis.

Mr. R. PEELE, gave notice, ,that he ‘tlld to.,
morrow move certain amendments on the Sanding
Orders respecting the bringing in Bills for repairwg
Churches and Chapels.
M,. HENSFIA\V presented a Petition. from the
Chdroher or. Commerce of Glasgow, and ano:h. r on
the part of the M:.-trcria .Is and Man ifaturer, of
Glasgo, praying for :he extension uf the British
La, s to the-.island of Trinidad.

Mr. WIIMITON obtained leave to bring in three-
Bills, viz. one for amending the Atits renting to the
Land Tax:, one for extending the Warehousing
and °tie for obiiging the
:Officers of the Excise
to carry on the prosecutiuns of Smugglers in their
own names.

The Loan Bill went_ throtigh a Committee, the
report of which was ordered to Le received to-
morrow. , .

The coteli ExCiga Stiperannuat4an, .and the Foe
of Ma-n Consolidation Bith, went ,through, Com-
mittees:the reports of which were ordered to be
received tb-mot row, -

Mr. LLTSHINGTON -brought
,up the Report of "the
Irish Warehousing and Beer Bills, the resofutions
of which were agreed to, and the Bills ordered for
a third reading to-morrow. •
The'Report of the Oil of Vitriol Bill was brought
up, agreed to, and the
•Bill ordered to be read a
third time to-morrow.

On the motion of Mr. WHITEREAD, .the Work-
house Bill was read a second rime, and committed
for to-morrow.

The report of the Committee on the- Irish Light
Houses was brought up, the resolutions agreed to,
and Bills ordered. '

Mr. W. BoofLE brought in a• Bill for- taking
away 'the badges worn by the poor.—Read' a first and
ordered to be read a second time to-Morrow.

The Irish Beer Bounty-sßill went through a Coin-,
mittee. A discussion of some length took place, in
\which Mr. Foster, Mr. Hutchinson, Sir J. New-.
port, and Mr. R. Sha,w participated.
The report was ordered to be received to-
morrow. ,

The report of the Committee of Supply was
brought up, the'resolutitins of which 'were read and
agreed to.. '

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FOREIGN TIMBER.
In a Committee of the whole House on Foreign.
Timber, Mr-Rose proposed that an additional duty
should be imposed, on the..importation,of Foreign
Timber. He thought our own colonies could sup-.
ply us with half the quantity at -present imported
fromsNorway. adoption of the measure would
increase: the proSperity, and enable them to take
more goods of our manufacturing than formerly.
Fewer foreign ships than are in our trade at present
would then be required, .and a great saving would
thence arise to the country. He concluded _by
moving, that additional duties should be imposed on,
Foreign Timbers impOrted into Great.nritain, unless
such timbq were immediately transported from our
own colonies.

Sir W. LEMON rose, but spoke in a tone so very
inaudible that we were unable to colledf what he
•
said.

Mr. HORNER thought the measure proposed
might be suggested to-the Right Hon. Gentleman
by the enormous 'increase of foreign shipping em-
ployed in our trade. In the progress of the measure
now brought ft-rrward; he hopcd the House would
investigate the causes'of this new and alarming evil.
It might be an objeta of the enemy's policy to insi-
nuate foreign ships into the current trade of this
country. By this means Buonaparte might seek to
share r'ith us that which was ihe source of our COM-
'mercial and political power. He thought that we
might be blinded by the rig lesions thrown out by the
enemy, who, pldyiug a deep game, took, advantige
di our policy, and made our regulations.subservient
to his purpose.

Mr: IlOsa observed, that no undue encouragement
had been giyen to. I °reign vessels ; no one was . suf7
tered. to, sad where.. an .k.nglish could go. The

cao tans, rather th3l2
~10ge ojir COillinert.76; • V.:"e
piloyed foreign t3,carry en a eft:,
to BuCilth-i.ar!e'Stieh,i'd,ifig-tis, 'how did ckqEDcleils,,,
Was it.byeoiping with a ;iro3g-,atsinlothe `naticina
°TOR; Contment-, at:;(ll:4)iciritzt:.em to exeklde Bria
frOrn th'cir.harbourS While he bad the
power to do soove couid not pievelit:hisexercisiug
that •Pcvverl; but .it did not thence Itollowthat mte
:were.the dupes.of his d.eltai n. .

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Mi. D. GIDDY tiigil<iht the tr‘:de :with owr 'cola-
.
•-nies ought to be encouraged,slte therefore wou:cl not
oppose tite..footion.
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The PHANCELILOft of the ExHi,,6l.l:7Za to
endeavour to dissipate the gloomy appreh.-;, :u..; ex-
pressed by the I-16D. oppOite, and
his speech might-have excited 'as to the cotrinitrcial
state•of the country. There, wer.e, doubtless, aveat
many foreign ships'emPlOyed: in 0.. r tr!-i'de'qo the
Nurth of Europe, to .I\Hrway,i,' to punk irk; acd to.
Prussia,•as.. it was imoOssible,to carry.nti it.ade witth
those places in English ships. His Rids{ Hollow -
able li'riend was desirous of.obtainitr a; n Fly of
timber fr-in our own colonies, that ships
might not be so much_ en,cou aged. e
able Gentleman opposite niUst ti:erefor-e'tinok the
pan he, proposed nop,t wj.,e, as it weat to cotniterad
that evil ut which he had cOlT:al:•ed.. It f:Teign
vessels had - been etni-;loved in t.adin N r h
of Europe,. ljt-rillSii<l.csis eiill I,r" ti,st-'‘.4
of others,in !he Aint ilea, aid :,,.the
_Spanish an-. 1 PorAignese it there
was an increase of. lot Op. tontrig,l in 'ine -pat trr,
,`there was. an inc east of Britishh-tonnage in-attotht•r.
In 1807 tioa tottilage of British vesscis
,ward amolOie..l to ttf.s9o tuns f. nr 1-Beg' IThe a.. aunt
was t 0,173,, h increased 1,563 luns. Ti
tonnage of foreign 'ships it) 180-7 a:coi.lnted tu`37o2.
In 1809 its amount was 4682, rhibitt locrea,cci 'lnce
1807 by 980. limos it appe,r d there W. 4; an. tro,-
crease in: the tonnage of foreign ve els s -ploy c,i in,
our'irade 01 980 tons; while the _Mete Ise of. 13, itit.h
tonnage amounted to rt 0,173. Ftwin this It'
-appear, that all the advantage t+aa not on the side of
foreign vessels, but the increase .01 tlv.;it tonnage
arose .from the general increase of-trade. T4.e
nage';of the English vessels cieared opt in 1807 *as
8,924 tons, in 1809. was 9,935 ; that of igreilz,n
vessels cleared out in the former ye..r was 3 630',.
the latter 4370. ihtace it would scene the uirrea?e
of the tun oae of foreign vessels \s,as
that_of the tiMglisiovcsels cleared out aMounted to,
tut], so that thy wctease of the trade cal.rted un its
English- vest-Is was greater in proportion t!,an that
'carried on oy means ut sit ppi g.'
GeneraI.TAHLET9N supposted
.the. motion ; aLd
after vone tUi the, conversation,' .tn, which
illr l'remayne, atild Str-J., Newport
prtie,pated, ,

Mr. BAI4NO observed, the trade bt.-t.isieen this
country and the Moth ut Europe*Tnight: ne
o❑ in Britis- ship, under the, AinilOcdii tlag. It Was
imposslble to di,tingui,h English from 4inerread
Sollois.. Employing neutral and enepi,e•' se,itnen,
wan training up a future enet»y in our ocvn
,for scamen. He
.v,:ry touch fe-Asre'd our -Ainetie..ll
colonies could :not furnish _a -satii:ient quAntily ui
timber sufl-kciently good.. in quality, and: Was
pteltensive that. the measure - proposed would
have the effect of increasing thee price Of.a %cry.
important arCcle, H Mich
.was already jxceediogly.
dear.

Mr. PARNELL made a few obstrvations, after Wll:ch
thetpolion was aveed to,. the HOus...
the. report 'of the Committee yiias ot&Rd re-
cei ed to,morrow. -

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rd PALISIELISTONE wished to MI if att- Hun.
Geutlemao opposite had-any objeJion ib pasty:
the motion or which he
.had 6.ven notice, Vu tiLii
Petition of the Innkeepers for A.lowances
morrow., . •

.i4lr. BASTARD Consented ito
,defer it, and it was ac-
cordingly po:dpuned: , -

EAST INDIA AFFAIRS. --
Mr. PRENDERGAST conceiving
.the doctiments he
had lately moved for'were refused because they were
considered to he too_ valuminous, and the printing
coo..expensiVe, offered, as far as it •might
upon him, to obviate these ohjedions : Isr; By ex-
pressing his readiness to be one•of`a Committee to
selea such papers only as-would necessary to the
elucidation of. the, subject arid, Qdly; It 'Suc'e. a •
saving
.mre supposed to be an 'object, to 'defray the
expence ot.printnig them out of his own puckrt. He
would now however, move for one Single docu,nent,
If the paper he wished for were -not grained, he
should think they were averse to the atlairs of. the
Lst. India Company beilig looked into. 'He repre;
sented the export trade of India Co be at so 1.9 W
ebb, that the Governor-General. in 'Council had
.
.thought advisable to' enter into an
for admitting the American, to the prejudice of „th."e
British merchant; tilt° a participation of-that •trad,,,
by which means, On the return of peace, the Ame-
rican would 6e. able to undersell the Company in
• the importaOrarticle of tea, or hold out such temp-
tations to smuggling, as: it, would be ne2,li to inn-
possible to counteract. These assertions gunld be
fully proved. by', the prodtietlon of the d.',cunitnt '
for which he +should „move.. He corci;ud,il by
moving for a 'ropy of the letter. from Are Got'er.4,-
nor'-General of the Council of Bengal, on ,tae
ject of the general finances of India, dated August.
23, 1800.

M. 8.. DUNDAS thought as the. leJer was tilrea?iy
before a Cotninittee, .the Hduse con 4 not coostnt,
to take it from that Corninitte to
,lay it bet.,,,re tht'l
House. It ought not to be prbduced, ,
nied by the other doeutnents so tr.e in-
vestigation of the mit:jet-1 fsvhenver 4t t0i...;111
'brought forward. The suhje& was pot to be 'taken
up on one letter, nor on a gleat, many.' He had
no objection to t'he document in question
made public, but he opposed its produetioh on the
grounds of the. objection he bad already sated to
the House. . • •

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•1141:. CR EEyY conceilied this to. be an important
subjrct, he wished that ail the pal‘crs which were ••
moved fir bad been in the hands ot Ron: Getnieo,en
during the recess. The various documents 11;id mit
fair play in the House ; It was 'necessity ti!at it .
should be in possession -of every . paper, on these
•groutids he voted- for ihe motion.
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Mr-GRANT onset ved, that on-the subject of; Fl. - -
['lance and the Export 1 rade, there mast neeciisarily, :A..
be a rmuititude ofs docu4i,ents. It- the-.1-ionse.v4iis .r.
•nowa,to. take them. into considerai i6h, it would it;i4i- . ;, •
`haVe to go over the sane ground it did before.; Ille - -
trade of America interfered much Avitir our sale,*

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