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serving of being considered—

1.-NI at ry witch ri, hia pt. lcl) riot "-- laugh !)
lifiViug said thus much as to the Bin, he could
not omit that opportunity of making some obser-

rations on what had been said on a-former night,
.wben he was absent, relative to -the character and
conduct of electors paying scot and lot, but par-.
ticnlarly the electors of Westminster. The at-

tack might have more weight had it come from
. -

a. lcss suspicious source, but he less regretzed
has own absence, because, had he been preient,
lie might hive been led
_by the irritation of the

moment to ilqvf! treated an insitraation made at

that ti with the Sovereign Contempt which

it deserved, and lie might have beet) also induced,

much as- he respecters the Honouri!ble Member

for Taunton (Mr. Baring), not to have paid him
al! that deference which he could always wish to

"give to (isle, to whose knowledge and abilities

the country had been often indebted ; hot'really
the Honourabla Member bad gone a little too far
_ _

--when I.e said tliat the electors of Westminster

would not give their votes to any candidate who
could not talk to them a great deal of nonsense.

lie did not see how the-qualifications by scot and
lot necessarily produced such a consequence.: but

he would tell him, that when he, arraigned the
character of the electors of, Westminster in this

way; he did it under_igliorance of the subject he

was talking about. M. would that for
independence, integrity, and dkcerament, unless
in the' choice of one..Repre,sia4ative, there Ivan no.
body of men who deserved Three highly of
..their
country than the. ele.ctors,of.Westminster.. The
manner in whiA theY''kae their. votes- was not

such as another fiartoura4le Mernhc•r Iracj stated.

. ‘ ,
. .
There was no.hribe lottked for in- the paytrient of
poor-rates to qualify them' to vOti • He knew-pot
where the Honourable Member had received his

information, but did not lie,;t:ito to say, dial
it came ft•ont a source that was false and infamous.
He (Mr. 11.) was enabled to state that there was
a Gentleman then in the House, who, if the Pe-
tition which Nfas presiinted against his own re-
turn had -been persevered in, would have shewn
such items of expence on the part of the popular
candidates for the last-three 'elections in -West-
minster, as were wholly new to Committees of
that House. He would..kaie...shewn that in a
place where there were 1.5,000 electors, who,
during 15 days were carried up to the poll, not a,
penny was expended but in a legitimate manner,
for printing, -advertisements,;.hiring rooms, and
other objects absolutely necessary in contested
electior4s ; every thing was Open' and fair—not
an itern of expence but what: was legally account-
ed for; and the charge which had been, so
unadvisedly made was a libel and a calumny.
not only on the people of Westminster, but on'
the people at large, at least on all bodies of elee,
tors wl:Qse right of voting. depended upon the
payment of, seet• and 10t... De did not see the
Hon. Member for Taunton then in his place. He
was sorry for it,, because it obliged him to do
that which the Hen.. Member had-done—to speak
of hint: in his absence ; but he could not help it,
as those sort of things could not keep cool—(A
laugh):—lle had stated, that the candidates for
Westminster had no chance of success unless they.
talked nonsense to their :constituents—(A laugh
en the Ministerial Benches).—These were hard
words, but when the House heard the comment
with which they. were accompanied, it would ap-
pear that—
Mr. BANKES rose to order. lie said that it
was , disorderly to refer to any statement as- a
misrepresentation which might have occurred in
a former .debate, when the Member who- was
alleged to have.made it was not present to sup-
port it, or explain.
The SPEAKEn said, it certainly .Was the rule of
the House, that a Member should not refer to
former' debate, in which there might have ,been
an incautious misrepresentation, when the ordinary
disadvantage of such reference was•coupled with,
the absence.of the Member to whom it was attri;
buted, and who, had. he- been present, might-pos-
sibly spew ,that the mis-statemeut was uninten-
•
Mr. IfonnousEproceeded, and said •he was'al-
ways ready. to pursue that line of conduct which'
appeared most agreeable to the opinion of the
Chair and the usages of the House. At the same
time it was very hard that he should, in his ab -
s e nce, have been alluded to as one who was in
the habit of talking nonsense. There was, how-
ever, a way. of putting the matter without violat.

ing the orders of the House, and he .was resolved
that the observations of the lion. Member for
Corfe Castle (Mr. Bankes) should not have the
effect of preventing altogether what he was about

to say, though it would cause him to change his
manner of putting it. lie would say then to
those Gentlemen who objected to the right of
voting being allowed to people who paid scot and
lot, and who supported an almost unlimited taxa-

don, and who said that to such people no man
was recommendable but on the score of his non-
sense, that they made a very great mistake;
what was nonsense to one man, might appear
sound wisdom to another, and that might account
why it was that what was thought wisdom with-
in doors, sometimes appeared no better than folly
without. The people were perhaps more compe-
tent to discover, whether a man was talking non-
sense than the lion. Member for Taunton suppos-
ed ; arid if he would only make the experiment,
and try what be could do on a popular hustings,
he would find that there was no place where Fal-I
lacks or absurdity were sooner detected, and he
might learn that he carried his own commodities'

n that way to a bad market.—(Jrear ! and laugh-
er.)—Those who made such attacks as he was

• now obliged to animadvert upon, on the peo-
ple at large, made a. had return far their dis-
cernment in electing them, if they represented
popular places, particularly such • a one as
Taunton. In that place, where, of course, no
nonsense Was ever spoke, he believed it had once
happened that the popular candidate had enter-
tained. his 'constituents in quite a:classical style,
by having carried before him a loaf as large as a
house, surmounted by four Cupids.—(Loud
laughter.)----Now bad as Westminster was, ab-
surd as its taste was represented to be, he did
verily believe, that a loaf twice as larg'e, and
doable the number of Cupids, would not obtain,
the in;ienious Candidate a single vote. (A laugh:)
—He did not mean to say positively that this had
occurred; but he spoke of it from good authority.
But it was worth remarking, that the Hon.
Gentleman and others, who accused the Can-
didates for Samthwark and Westminster of talk-
ing nonsense, were always ready to flatter their
own.pretensions to good sense, by passing enco-
miums on the wisdom of the !louse ; this was
nothing else than panegyrising their own elo-:
.quence and. capacity,. but. there was as little mo-.:

desty in it as judgment. By adopting this prac-
tice they ran the risk of converting that House

into something very like the paradise of Fools.,
where every man fancied he was in full posses-
sion'of all wisdom, knowledge, and dignity, to
the exclusion of all other persons, beyond the sa-
cred precincts of such a privileged and happy
assembly.—(A laugh.)--Well might they then
become deaf to the groans, the hisses, and the
laughter of their fellow-countrymen, whenever
they unhappily imagined that wisdom had gone
out of doors. There was another point which
he wished to observe upon. It had been said,
that the Candidates in Westminster and
such places, used language which they
would be ashamed to use in the presence of,
Gentlemen. Now, what was or was not becotn-

ing a Gentleman was matter of opinion ; the word
was one of very uncertain meaning. What ap-
peared gentlemanlike to one man might not be
so to another ; but with respect to himself he

could only say, that there was nothing which he
hadsaid on the hustings of Westminster,which he
would not be ready to repeat in that House; and
he was proud always to avow, that when be first
offered himself to the electors, he had given a
pledge from which he would be ashamed to re-

tire.--(llear, hear I)—itiith regard to titat indi-
.vidu;il 131110 he congratulated the country on the
,e.

progress which Reform had made ; this was
pretty evident from the fact, that when Gentle-
men of the monied interest opposed any proposi-
tion of Reform, there v.-;re not wanting Members
of Noble and Illustrious Families to speak in' its
favour. This was consolatory to the people. It
taught them round whom they ought to rally—it
pointed out their .natural' defenders, and 'gave
them -reason to believe that when the time camp
they would not be wanting to them and their
cause. Never did the great expediency of Re-
form appear more evident than in the present
time, when. Spain, Naples, and Portugal were
choosing Constitutions for• themselves ; and not
going to that of Great Britain, but were adopting
another which they thought Would better secure
to them the enjoyment of their rights, and then
the Allied Sovereigns said, " Don't let those peo-
ple, have the Spanish Constitution, give them
the English one in preference, it will give us less
altarm." Knowin;,, what the sentiments of the A !lied
Sovereigns were with respect to the liberties of
people, it was easy to see what this meant.—
It was easy to see that they did not know
the Constitution of England—that they were ig-
norant of its essential virtues—of its old and
glorious principles—of its 'guarded rights and
powers, jealous of encroachtnent—(llear, hear !)
—No, this was not the- Constitution that they
Meant. Theirs pas a more novel one, and one
which, the Gentlemen opposite were always read v
to call matchless, and he agreed with them• it
was indeed matchless in rotten boroughs—match-
less in sinecure places--,--matchless in pensioners
and placetnen—(Year!).Those'Gentlemen had
that night given the Country a proof of their re-
gard, for the principle of the Constitution, in
their decision on a previous Bill (the .-Newing-
iop Vestries Hill.) They were tender of the
orders and privileges oldie House,and yet lfr2l of
thein had voted for cuffing off the privileges of
30,000 persons, not in tire resent time alone, hut
to all posterity. Such was thedelicacy of the House
with regard to the rights of the Parishioners of
Newington, and yet they were .very tardy and
'scrupulous in trenching upon the Franchise of
the Electors of Grampound, though convicted
of gross acts of bribery and corruption. I t would
be well if the 'louse, while so careful as it
alWays was of its
,own rights and those of the
Crown, 4.0u1d always feel as indisposed to give
up those which belonged_ to the subject.--(hear,
hear!)—He concluded by observing, that, let the
Bill take what shape it would, he, although a
4adical Reformer, would give it his support.
Mr. T. COURT EN A.Y, adverting to some lan-
guage which had fallen from the lion. Member,
said, that when he mentioned the circumstance of
the Candidates paying the poor rP,tes to qualify
the elector, and %%hid' the Honourable Member
stated to have come from a source false' and infa-
mous, he did not mean to apply it to that Hon.
Gentleman in particular. Ile heard the fact, and
he believed it to be true. lie was not in the, habit
of keeping company with such persons as those
who could have given false and infamous infor-
mation, and he threw back on the Honourable
Member that expression of sovereign contempt
which he had so indiscreetly used..
Mr. HonnotiSE said, that he did think the mis-
representation was applied to the candidates and
Electors of Westminster ; but he did not mea

to apply to the Honourable Gentleman himce

the terms false and infamous: it was the sour(

from which the information came, and which he
could not help thinking so.
Mr. COURTENAY explained.
Mr. HumE corroborated the statements of Mr.
Ilebhouse with respect' to 'the expellees of
the Westminster Election, the accounts of
which he had been, along with a Gentleman of
another parish, called upon to audit by the Com-
mittee, on an election which terminated in the re-
turn of Lord Cochrane and Sir 'F. Burdett. lie
found all the items perfectly fair and correct, on
that and some subsequent occasions. He stated,
that the Electors of Westminster would feel in-

stilted by such an offer as to pay their poor rates.
Such things might have, indeed, been attempted
in the cause of the Government candidate. As
to the Bill, he was friendly to it, but wished its
principle had been :pore popular.
,Mr. H. GORNLY thought the Bill might do
some good; but would have preferred the Bill as
introduced by the Noble Lord to that as amend-

ed by the Member for Yorkshire.
The Order of the Day was then read; the. Re.
port was 'brought up by Mr. llrogden ; on the
motion of Mr. S. Wortley the Bill was re-com-
mitted ; in the Committee several Amendments
were introduced ; and the House having resum-
ed, the Report Was received and ordered to be
taken into further consideration on Friday next.—
The Bill, as amended, was ordered to be printed.
TRADE.
Mr. SYKES, after a few preittury rental ks on the hardships
with which the PetitlOn,rs were threatened by the intended
proposition to open trade in Timlwr to the Baltic, and ex
eres.ing his wish that the Right Hon. the Pre4ident of the
Boaid of Trade would signify ws stota as pos•ible when the
Report of the -Cominittite, On Ftrreign Trade might he expect-
ed, as it was a subject highly inter' sting to his Consti,
presented a Petittall front the Timber Merchants of Hull,
against any alteration in the iiresetit regnintions With re-
sneer to that Trade.—Referred to the Committee en Foreigi,
Trade.

Mr. 13E.W7I()NT pieserited a Petition frorn the Owours
and Occupiers of Lau I in the Cotniy of Norihurnbeilavd,
cAnolainivg ot the di'stress,to which agriculture WAS subject.
ed to he printed, •

Mr. 13. WILISIt 111,3A1 g ice notice, that on Thurs4lay next
h. would in ye for leave to Witte, in a 13:1 to regulate and
eillOrCe the attendorwe lit Sororg at
Ni/VA SCOFIA TRADE BLU-
M. Nov, Seuth Trade Bill went through it Committee.
The Repo.l was received, and the Bill oideied to be :rad a
third time to-worrow. •

BROGD EN he ought up the Report of the New South
it'alrs Doors Bill, Which wasagrt ed to.. The. Bill was order-

rd to be read a third time to morrow,

-The Attorneys Fees isi lorlanft Bill went throttell ft COlll-

!titter, the Rei:ort of which wAi ordtted to hr rectived To-

I.! a Committee on the Glaes Act:, A Itegolntion was avre..,l

to that it %vas expottivut to co/Ili/me the 59t11 of Ovolt‘e 111.
re•citectitte, the I)oties nu Crow') &c., about to expire.—
The Report WAS ordert.4l to be roceived to-morrow.
11 (TSB ANDRY 1-10 R ES

Mr. LUSIIINGTON moved the Order of the Day
'or the Boum; to resolve Itself into a Committee,
.0 consider of the _Husbandry Horse Act. -
Mr.CURWEN rose, to move a previou3 instruc-

tion
.to the Committee, to wake provision for the
repeal of so flinch. of the Act as related to the
Duty on Horses solely employed in Husbandry.
He regretted that no surii proposition had pro-
ceeded from the other side, and he was persuaded

that it was itnpoSsihte Ministers cotild be aWtiPe
of the extreme distress under which Agricul-
ture was labouring, not in one district alone, but
over tile. whole country. No ,pne could contem:
plate that distress without a disposition to make
every effort, and at any risk, to relieve it. The
amount of the tax certainly was not very large,
bur though not -large it Wa3 most vexatious and
unjust. It fell with the greatest weight on those
who were the least able-to bear it. It fell espe-
cially on those who were employed on the poorer
soils which had of late years been broken up. It
had been said, that the further cultivation of
such soils ought to be relinquished. That would
be very well, if the pers'ons employed upon them
could find some other :occupation. But it was
known that there were already numerous
other classes, consisting of many thousands of in-
dividuals, wholly unemployed ; and that , the
funds for the support of the poor were so load-
ed, that they %sere quite unable to bear any fur-
ther charge. The horse tax was one that was
extremely disproportioned. It fell much more,
heavily—in the proportion of. seven to five—
on the northern parts of the kin.2-dorn than on
the southern, in consequence of the longer time.
necessary for getting in the -crops in the former.
Its effect' was also very injurious in discourag-
ing the breed of horses. He did, therefore, most
deeply regret that it had not been proposed.
to omit husbandry -horses from the operation. of
the tax, because it 'sheaved that Ministers were
not so sensible of the existing distresses as he
'formerly hoped they were. The farmers paid
the same tax at'present as they did When in their
greatest prosperity. The .Petition that evening
presented by the Hon. Member for Warttickshire,
proved that there was no temptation, under ex•
isting circumstances, to induce the agriculturist
to goon with his labour. Although the farmers
were at present a very loyal class, it was impos-
sible to say what might happen, if 'no step were
taken to relieve thorn. 'Something ought to be
done, were it (Ally-to show a disposition in their
favour. There were many. other sources. of tax-
ation, which would be much preferable to this
obnoxious one. For instance, 'it wouldi, be much
better to raise the game certificates frem three to
five guineas, and to enable all owners of freehold
estates to have gamekeepers. That was a tax
which would be paid with much greater ease and
satisfaction, and it would secure to the country
gentlemen the enjoyment of their sport. The
tax on pleasure horses might also be increased.
Then there was the duty. on Russian tallow,
at :present only three guineas a ton, whiCh was,
in fact, a bonus-to the Russian trade. What had
Russia done for us, that we were thus to sacri-
fice our best'interest to her? She had exhibited
no correspondent' feeling. If the WeSt India
Merchants were asked, they .would not. be able
to reply that their produce Met with any pecu-
liar favour from the Russian Government. if

the duty on tallow were raised to WI. a ton, it
would produce a clear 300,0001.,-which, with the
produce of the increase of
.gatift certificates;
enable them to take off the odious bus-:'
bandry horse tax ; and why this object should
not be done, and our Greenland Fishery also
protected by it, he was at a loss to conjecture.
'lace Hon. Gentleman concluded by moving as
Amondment, the instruction to the Commit-
tee, Which 'he adverted to.at the commencement
:of his speech.
Sir C. Butteßet. supported the Amendment,
and contended that the plough or the cart, or
even the labourer himself, might as well be taxed
as the husbandry horse. lie enforced the state-
ments of the lion. Member for Cumberland with
respect to the oppression and inequality of the
tax, dwelt on
.the impossibility of affording the
labouring poor any further parochial relief, and.
referred to the •Petition from. Warwickshire;
signed, not by farmers, but exclusively by'
,ma-
nufacturers, in proof of the-- severe and un-
exampled distress which. agriculture was at pre-
'sent enduring, and which therefore it was most
'desirable to take .every possible mean& to alle-
viate. •

A MEMeEEt who spoke under the Gallery, and
whose name we could not learn, expressed his
surprise that so small a boon as that now required
should be denied to the farmer ; and among
other modes by which the deficiency might be
supplied to the Revenue, adverted to the propo-
sition for imposing a duty on Bank Transfers.
Mr. LOCKHART warmly supported the neces-
sity of affording some relief to the agricultural
interest. The principle on which the tax on
husbandry horses was originally imposed was
good, because at the time at which it was imposed
the farmers were very capable of bearing it.—
Now, however, they were wholly incapable. It
became a tax, not on their income, for they
had none, but on their capital ; and where was
the policy or principle of laying a tax on the,
capital of a falling and ruined man ?—(ifear !)
tie really did not believe that his Majpsty's Go-

'vernment were at all aware of the exient of the
distress which existed in the 'agricultural dis-
tricts ; and he was confirmed in that opinion by
understanding that they had, even within the last

two months, sent intelligent persons to various
quarters, to ascertain the fact ; thus shewihg that
they did not believe the statements contained in

.he Petitions on the table. He was apprehensive
hat ere long conviction of those distresses would

flash upon them in a manner that would compel
Them to yield assent to those who had so•repeat-
edly pressed it on their attention. The lion.
Member proceeded, at considerable length, to
urge the necessity of taking every possible step,
by which the burden at present imposed on the
agriculturists might be diminished.
Sir C. .11tra.rim.r. explained.
Mr. P. GaENcr.i.r. said, that with respect •to
the proposition for laying a duty on Bank.TranS-
fers, it was only necessary to- read to the HoUse
a Clause which ran • through all the Loan Acts,
and which expressly stated, that no stamp duty
whatever should be charged on ►
transfers.
lie

.•
Fierefore could not but consider that any at-

ernpt to 'lay a duty on Bank Transfers would

amount to nothing less than a breach of public

alth.

The CHANCP.T.LOR of the EXCITEQUER said,
nu Honourable Members did not appear to
1w .to be aware of the proposition which hi

Ittiiiortrable rriend stlhitiitted to the considera-
tion of the Corrimittee. The proposition of
his lidnottrable Friend was, that the reduced
rate of taXtiflon which had been fixed about two
years since for the relief of the Agriculturist,
should be further conflated. He could not think
, .it either candid or fair fur the Honourable Mem-
ber (Mr. Curwen) to take the present opportuni-
ty of submitting, aJnotion of so much importance,
withous havingivN‘ any previous notice-of it.—
The repeal of Taxes to the amount of half a mil-
lion of money was, in the present state of
.the
Country, a subject of very serious consideration.
• hie..would not say that it was not possible to
find a substitute for that tax—(Hear, hear !)
but at the same time he would not be understood
as holding out a hope that suck a' substitute
would be found. Ile thought the Honourable
Member would act wisely not to press his motion
to a division, because he could bring the subject
before the House under morc.favourable auspices.
Colonel I)Avrs said, that he certainly would
support the motion, as he would support any
motion for the repeal of the present I) r -of
any other Tax. lie agreed with the Honourable
• Member (Mr.-Curwe-n) on'the question of repeal,
but he could not agree with him as to the pro-
priety of placing a tax on Russia tallow. It was
somewhat straoge that, whilst so much had been
said about the repeal of taxes, riot a word bad
been said about retrenchment. He (Col. Davie:)
would be able to spew, and he was .glad an op-
Tortimity would .soon present itself, on the ap-
proaching discussion of the Army Estimates, ante
double the amount of.the tax now sought to be
repealed might be saved in the Army aloue. lie
was glad that the present qtuntion came uuder
the consideration of the House ; he was of opi-
nion, that questions of the kind could not be too
often discussed, and the only way of going to the
root of public evils was by partial debates, at-
tacking public abuses, night after night, in every-
possible shape.
Mr. MoxcK agreed with the Gallant Officer
who had just sat down, that the only way to re-
dress public grievances, and to remove oppressive_
Taxes, was by attacking thorn in detail. To him
it was very evident, that Ministers would never
begin their long boasted work of Retrenchment,.
until that House would-first begin the reduction
of TaXe.4, lie was convinced, that time real cause
of public distress tt)ight be traced to the state of
the Taxation. Nothing but the reduction of
Taxes would relieve the country. New Duties
on the Importation of Corn would certainly be a
relief to the Landholder, but it would be a relief.
purchased at the expence of every other class of
society, and of every branch of industry. An-
overwheltningTaxation pressed upon the vital
parts of the country, and the distress- was aggra,
vateci by the attempt to return to an improved
Curreney..
Mr. HustussoN said, that, before the House-
went to a division, be would wish that the Mem-.

bers should exactly understand.the nature of the
The proposition, as it stood on the
Orders of the Day, was to continue 'an Act
passed a few years since to reduce the tax upon
agricultural horses of a certain' class. Now, if
the House did not gi). into a Committee, the
eitect would be to. revive the, old t-ux.., sus,aj.thut
description of horses which were now exi-mpt
would be visited with the original tax. It woirld
be extremely inconsistent in the House first to
continue the low duty on one description of
horses, and secondly to send instructiOns to the.
Committee to repeal the tax aljOgether -on an
other description. lie thought that the ilo
Member would, art more fairly to bring the en-
tire subject fairly before the House, alter due
notice. At present, _he conceived that it was"
impossible for the House not to reject the pro-
position of the Hon. Member.

Mr. BEN'NETT (of Wiltshire) said, he w 0314
certainly support every motion for the repel
taxes on agriculture. He could not but feel with
Hon. Gentlemen, that a retri retrenchment, that
plans of real public economy would go a great
way to remove the present excessive weight of
taxation.

Mr. lititc,HT complained of the anxiety or
country Gentlemen, who seemed anxious wily
to transfer, their burthens to the mercantile in-
terest. It was impossible •tliat the country could
be served by transferring oppresSive burthen9
from one great .publiC interest to another. As it
struck him, the only effectual way of getting rid
of the present tax was, by the country Gentle-
men combining and opposing the taxes altogether.
Mr. CURWEN explained. He said he had no
wish to take the House by surprise, or.to _act un-
fairly in any way. He bad often declared hi-4
intention to move to get rid of the present inill-
rions and odious tax on agriculture, lie had n°
wish to press upon Ministers; he knew they had
difficulties to meet, and that those difliculties‘in-
creased every hour. If Ministers would slww
sincere disposition to alleviate the public bur-
diens, he would:not only not oppose them, but
would aid them in the effort.----The House anti
divided-7-

For Mr. Curwereg MO ion 65
Against it
ALijoi ity agairiJl the tioutiuii

- -
The House then went into a Cortnnittice, Ana
the Resolution's for the continuance a the duty
agreed to. The Report to be received•to,,rnorrow.

The Rt port of the, Committee on Irich Cotirt;s of Justice
was received, and ordered to be referred to a evannittec of
the whole I-luuse on Friday
On the motion for postponing the Committee of SupplY tin
Wedoesitay.

Mr. 11F.NNET wished to know, whether it was intended
tiring or. the discti,,ion of the Army Estimates on,
ehres ;Esatinonie: IplaTic7sei‘vc'hsicTi.ulre, had hardlybeen rinnovlti!di for,lan hands
snoaf ,I:!ktinc.'"
were necessary to illustrate those Estimates,.were not 11""
(breed. linte%s they were presented, he should oppose tbu
disco,sion of the Estimates on W.ducgday.
fir. L';.lli G'l ON sstirl, that he should, in the course of.
alluded to by the lion. Member.
• Mr. 11 I7M E obset veil; that the Chancellor of the Exchequer,
at the opening' of the Session, bad stated that there would be
a reduction on. the expenditure -of the present year of a
million.—lttit it woul4 Ire seen, on taking the Estimates of
the Army, Navy, and Ordnance. which had been presented to
the Horse, that this redrietron was not more than 400,000%
'l'lrose.Earintates were, in tact, higher than the. Estimates of
They were a little lowcr than those of 1840, which the
How, knew had excreter! those of 18'9 by a milk'''. It tl'!ig
"c" ary, that hefole the 11oo4e rlierrs,etl, the Estimates.
they' should rave before them the Accounts, which had keen
nyvell r r of the Yeronantv and Vo,nnteers.
The CHANCELLOR of tire hal 11 UER said. 'it wer'l3.
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Le nte,,sA.y that the Army Esti:Lalez. Fr"' . ,ea

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With on Wetintiday. He hoped the Papers moved far would
be_pt-oduced befur. that (lay.

The Committee of Suppliwas fixed for. Wednesday..
'f he Irish Chancery Court Bill ►►ent thrOugh a Committee.
The Report was received and ordered to be taken into further
consideration ott Monday.
The Report of the Lunatics Stoclaransfer Bill was agreed to.