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Pointvdiieir out, and connected with the improvements
„. out,
be suggested by the Hon. Members, the
vre,dit°`4l be as creditable to the Noble Proposer as it
he valuable to the country.
Ifthdeolonel WOOD referred to the returns made by the
tsrube?etamissioners, from which it appeared that the
Visa eetee-of uniuclosed waste land was much less
eenaao—" been represented. He protested against
kid to fields being considered as waste lands,
Ice deprecated any measure which would
of -re their enclosure. In fact, a great portion
those t, !este lands WaS not worth inclosing, and
the b.l:us Ought to be kept open for the recreation of
l'e• He thought that, in all cases parties de-
o inclose common lands, ought to come to Par-
that thfor an Act for that purpose, and he was sorry
e Noble Lord, instead of introducing this Bill,
sioilhm isilmoved for a Committee to consider the provi-
EllO2. the General Inclosure Act, for the purpose of
cloaZillq means whereby the expense of obtaining In-
-6r1114 ght be diminished. the hoped the House
4 jeJeet the Bill, as he did not ink it could ever be
to Work practically.
cage in4I9.LIONBY said there was one point of advan-
lioid.o 'llls Bill which had not been noticed, and that
eaas:. be the saving of time and expense which it would
tore • This would be a general measure, and, there-
lioLlt would save a vast amount of the time of the
ICh would otherwise be consumed before
it d ittaittees. He trusted, therefore, that the House
w this Bill to go through the second reading.
t'eteetivas net a clause in it which did not give more
°0 to the poor than any Inclosure Bill which had
Iteptto passed.
kik; MILES, on the part of the agricultural com-
the ttY' thanked the Noble Lord (Lord Worsley) for
tpg eable he had taken in this subject, and for bri▪
ng-
PrieV before the House. He should give his Noble
lip"uhis decided support.
!Ikl TO was afraid that the principle of enclosure
411porietleY gone too far. This principle was of. great
korfranee• It would have the effect of dragging the
ktre ?el their places of recreation to seek the means of
the. atlon
1„, On the dusty roads. It was too much to curb
11reacloYments in this respect, seeing that they were
A C 1 ill a 11108 t wretched state at heir own homes,
qvhctiepinion hat Were in fact nothing but hovels. He was de-
° • • t this Bill ought not to be allowed
pe
NjOkt It' PEEL said he agreed with many of the obser-
tote
fight of the Hon. Member for Montrose, but would
°: the second reading of the Bill, that the House
sotn-,,ave an opportnnity of examining the details.
1,,c eases he thought mclosure would be profitable;
thohttl,they came to inclosure of lands about
tonstwns,
apron "gat they should look with great jealousy uch
'lot o,er' was in favour of having some wide space,
es
te-1 about such large towns as Glasgow and Man-
R1414', but in the neighbourhood of small towns con-
the
~L3.!,000 or 4,000 inhabitants. He would not sanction,
7040,„" aPplication of the principles of political
literf,37 to such lands, nor allow these principles to
'ttpro`:e With the health, innocent recreation, and moral
Ntth'eelent of the people.—(Cheers.) He wished to
one Noble Lord if the power of exchanging one plot
stone
for another was not of rather an unlimited
Aftettad did not require some restrictions.
i,41•11„,4 few words from Mr. HOPE,
" ORSLEY agreedwith the Right Um. Baronet
nr theolltaitY of having- large spaces attached to towns
- Per Poses of public recreation, but such a provi-
N h be easily made in Committee. The Noble
tit,e,a explained many of the clauses of the Bill, and
Itteoat he had constructed the Bill with as much
tlint° the rights of the poor as other Hon. Members,
,',liv.,•„"bgilt the proposed inclosures would be the means
:9,oks-" employment to many unemployed and indus-
,'N?r°, people. With respect to the power of ex.-
O whiell the Right Hon. Baronet referred, it
'nom" Ltito the details of the Bill, and could be satis-
tigii arranged into Committee.
/lAtt-Idiet.s were then ordered to withdraw, and the
vide when there appeared—
or the second reading
4gainst it
lA, b.• Majority • —47
Louse then went into Committee on the Masters
ikSir rants' Bin,
GRAHAM wished that it should pass through
4tc, 'bait
„Ned tee, pro forma, in order that time might be
for further consideration, which was agreedto.
k'411,/ lulling Transactions (Witnesses' Indemnity)
eat thr
ough Commttee, as did also the. Three-and•
• Pet' Cent. Annuities, and the Consolidated Fund
",orti
ORSLEY, in moving fora Select Committee, to
/11t pr;;Yo the mode of appointment, the duties, and
kti'eat system of remunerating the clerks to justices
4t4seasiong in England and Wales, and to report
Itt"tdtlitt:lee, and their opinion thereon, to the House,
a magistrate, he felt deeply impressed wi▪ th
ni„s,3itY of a reform in the matter. He should
igte 111 most of the cases of which he had cogni-
the
thrtob, - expenses to the county were enormously
'''rtioeate to the fines and imprisonment inflicted.
N,;(4B,se the fine was only. one penny, and the ses-
-1,7,14 pee
of the conviction was 14s. In another
09. I"4leh the fine was twopence, the expenses ware
thought this abuse could be remedied by alter-
t„l!tem of paying. the clerks to the justices of
tat.4-4'on• He had hoped that Government would
v'tt up this matter, and he should not at all
:.
With
t,! them ; but if not, he should feel it to be
~.'tft4, to ask for this Committee.
Atafew words from Colonel SIBTHORP,
td• h ANNERS SUTTON did not think the Noble
hh,
tli:44 64„uverrated the importance of the subject. He
(;',4 4? the Noble Lord this assurance, that the qus-
k,2erskveen brought under the consideration the
ti'LM sut, that a Bill was in preparation, and he ex-
14tte trt.,l short time would elapse before it was laid_
'lf4ohl e,.nouse. Under these circumstances, he trusted
LOr a: ‘.Lord would not press for the Committee.
ithe p;'2'lES stated, as an illustration to the objection
t 4 ,11.esent system, that in the part of the country
'eh he was connected, the Bench of Magistrates
tit), to allow the clerk to be paid by fees, and
be help a fixed salary.
IN4,7„IIOTIIERTON was glad to hear that the Go-
ANiult had taken up the question, and concurred in
"44eCettluation that had been expressed of the present
,4t' r,„.
approved of the proposed alteration of the
Met
• " short conversation the motion was withdrawn.
• NEW SOUTH WALES.
,'l,,klitt•r•C moved for the production of certain pa 7
,tl4-nolsZle to the condition of licensed occupiers of
4ai" thuds in New South Wales, with a view to esta-
k,Atie‘laim to the pre-emption of the lands they
14,11„"'ef '4O improved. He said they were a class of
ktOkem, perhaps, little might be known in th t
who were, nevertheless, a most important
kelL 1,44tia1, body, both in the colony and. in the com-
Vtr,,,,ett is carried on with Great Britain, The ra-
'oo-450 of colonial imports, their value, and the con-
. Nll,,°` exports from this country, is in a great mea-
V„ to these men. We have at present a colony,
ht VIA volation of about 150,000 persons, consuming i
Omost incredible proportion of from 101.
kti,,l4)°,ani of British exports. We have the wond er-
-4k„,14`,e, of an infant state, at the distance of 16,000
„ '4t;111 tfuich 150,000 persons take two-fifths nf. thee
Ports tiiken by the 30,000,000 inhabitainng
kOio:t,_ir'.eluded in the Zollverein of Germany, a
!Ito °lrds of the whole quantity of wool. that is
:%1,74 same states to this country. This real:,
ee,113,,a- 448 t ten years, has been mainly produced y
its hops °L'eupiers beyond the boundaries. It was
t-v, ten years since the ground within the
• the colony of New South Wales became
11;4°,elted that it was necessary to seek
03„tiiihr. without. To find space for their herds,
Parties went in quest of favourable
r`k444t4,- h to form sheep establishments.
14411;l'eti, ttv which
privation, their men killed, their huts
t.a,is en' flocks carried off to the amount of th0u-
;4442) it Single night • such were the hardships en-
squatters of 'New South Wales. The abo-
-90'7 wally retired, crops sprung up in what was
Vll desert, road tracts became formed, the pro-
LS4'.'etltc,k,.tl.,,.oll continued beyond them, and the country
• o -tunsed. But for these men, the real sur-
, t; the e
ountry, the discoverers of its mountains
o• t• iers, and its resources, the colony must have
kVati„,teParatively insignificant had its. resources
i4,,,h071 to the limits of the 19 counties. Among
%,NELleet7t,lv, ant of employment, or of capital at home,
• "111 "°ll advancement abroad, carried out to
waleoB
re any men of character and edu-
tilPt)k he bemt describe by referring to the
• ' inta dispatch dated December,
.kal • ‘3lpps, a
loco „MI:1'0.°11g the squatters of New South Wales are
NkA meteral of the lend, occupying, with permission
t,,„tt,and ten thousands of acres;
ak,t/Zefthw good family and connexions in England,
t 4 army and navy, graduates of Oxford and
APtho' s4e,! are also in no' small number amongst
of t4wt\ell might it be attempted to confine_ theel
do. to Desert within a circle traced upon 1
the graziers or wool-growers of New
,Al4klto within any bounds that can possibly be
litittlleni; and as certainly as the Arabs
14' 'ied, so also would the flocks and herdsa_
t'ath .
kisth icsape,..4 Wales, if they were so confined, _ 4
tA't• of the country be at an end."
svtaliltkine (said Mr. Scott) I. fully concur, but
NNE
p„t'isegattlent that they have either been fostered
jilt° -*„ When these men go into the pastures,
tittb.ve sh",,wilderness, residences must be raised for
4 ,iti'Mss their shepherds ; sheep-pens, barns, and
e
'ttNt, ,T,est4l;ieei
Lted—all makerarangements of a larg
to„ tthe ~,-I"lnent, to their flocks a source of
vet:l---ztuig law, which I ask you to reconsider,.
• th 4, tenure which would enable them to give
1 (act-
eir dwellings or stabty to their farm
(I, IteCeSsary expenses, however, cannot be
O
tithtei the Lieutenant-Governor of Port Philip)
lOW —jut. oil a station of a first class, and at
It 'Pelie on one of the second order. Yet, after
k kto ittaure has been made, the Government re-
q the power of turnipg these men adrift
P. 14'8 •
wthartuPs. Hence we see men whose pro-
St.°4 „ll) "sands, and who have been brought
v."' luxury, living in a wretched cabin of
tenth'lsfllce wood, The most miserable hovels and
eiz'eht,,,,te the dwellings and food of nine-tenths of
Yond the boundaries, simply because of
,of the law of the Government, which, by
L'4 01,14 able that that may be another's to-morrow
P),Piallaitidingsta Pday, renders it imprudent them to
kt" 4,, g
box another's benefit. They not sow,
the South , wild, for the benefit of others. The wool
Cepore,C_Wales is equal in quality to the Germ r',
The Part of it is got up in a very inferior
Vt'kh:Pala •es great flock•rnaste s—for those without
N 14
air d rthe /11N1 Rnet4 w• ea Y send more wool than all
ski k 0
;t"111 the nineteen counties designated
With
not erect proper shearing
e s'w
„,.or washing ens, for the
431ese would call for v