The Sun.
London, England, 1845-05-22 00:00:00

SINDE.

. Mr. MANGLES said, that seeing the Right Hon.
Baronet in his place, he wished to ask a question con-
cerning the proceedings of the East India Board with
respect to Single. Since the possession of that province
there had been no information laid before the
House as to the mode under which that province
should be governed. He thought, therefore, that
it was not misplaced if he asked, in the
first place, under what jurisdiction Sinde had been placed
since its occupation; secondly, what its revenues were
derived from; and, thirdly, by whom they were received,
and to what purposes they were applied? It was contrary
to the Constitution of England that revenues should be
received without any notice being given to Parliament of
their application. _

Sir It:PEEL said that it was usual, upon the acquisi-
tion of any territory in India, to place it, as soon as it
was possible, under the directiim of the Board of Direc-
tors In the first instance, however, it was placed under
the jurisdiction of the Secret Committee. He could not
at present lay the information which the Hon. Member
desired before the House, but as soon as be could do so
without prejudice to the public service he would give all
the information in his power.
Mr. MANGLES only required information respect-
ing the judicial and financial arrangements of the dis
tract, and he would certainly await the convenience ol
the Right Hon. Baronet for the details which he
sired.

MAYNOOTH ENDOWMENT BILL—
ADJOURNED DEBATE.
Colonel VERNER presented several petitions against
the Maynooth grant.
Several other Hon. Members presented petitions for
and against the grant.
Colonel VERNER then rose to resume the adjourned
debate, but for some minutes the Honourable and Gal-
lant Gentleman was inaudible, in consequence of the
noise occasioned by Honourable Members leaving the
House. We understood the Honourable Gentleman to
say, that nothing but an imperative sense of duty would
have induced him to trespass upon the House on the
present cccasion. He had not prepared himself with a
speech.—(Cheers.) He had beard of an officer, who
said he would rather fight a battle than make a speech,
and for his (Colonel Verner's) part, he would rather
walk twenty miles than have to make a speech.
The Right Hon. Baronet spoke in a tone of triumph of
the silence of the great bulk of the Irish Protestants on
this subject, but it did not arise from any indifference or
friendly feeling towards the Bill, but from fear of danger
and persecution. Again, many Protestants were ren-
dered apathetic by the mode in which . these petitions
had been treated in this House. Manufactories
of chain armour had been established in Ireland for
the use of the gentry, but these manufactories were not
able to supply the increasing demands upon them. The
Repeal party were allowed to meet and agitate,
whilst the Protestants of the north of Ireland
were placed under severe restrictions.—(Hear.)
The reason of the proceedings of the Presby-
terians of Belfast, according to the letter of Dr.
Cook, was not because they objected to the grant,
but that they were fully aware of the manner in
which their petitions would be received in that House.
A similar feeling was prevalent in Aniaagh.
He would trouble the House with only one letter more,
and it was from a Protestant clergyman. The Gallant
Member then read the letter, which was in substance that,
the reason the writer alleged for the Protestants of Ire-
land not petitioning against the measure, was because they
apprehended they would be treated with scorn and con-
tempt. He then continued by saying he hoped it would
not appear that he had taken too much upon him-
self in saying that the Protestants of Ireland
were net favourable to this measure. In all his
experience as a Member of Parliament he never heard
of a measure that had so little to recommend it as this.
The argument used in its favour sppeasred to him to be
this:—that for fifty years the Government had been
doing wrong, and now they would do a greater wrong.
He remembered when the Right Hon. Baronet at the bead
ofher Majesty's Government proposed a remedial measure
for the then disturbed state of Irelan 1, he said that if
that measure should not have the desired effect, he would
come down to this House and ask for additional powers. Let
him (Col. Verner) ask had agitation in Ireland ceased since
then ? He denied that it had ; on the contrary, con-
cession after concession had been made to Ireland
without any effect. A more than sufficient concession
had been male. As to those Honourable Gentle-
men who believed the doctrines taught at Maynoath,
he could only say he did not understand what they meant
by the extension of a belief in such doctrines, when they
were to be supported and propogated at the expense of
those who differed from them. He would very mueh
regret to introduce into the House his opinion to influ-
ence it in any way, but he could not refrain from stating
that he thought it of more importance that the funds
should be rather awarded for the propagation of pure
Protestantism, than for the spread of the Roman Catho-
lic religion. There was one observation that he could
not refrain from making, and that referred to some ob-
servations that had been made in the course of the de-
bate, which, in his opinion, tended to compromise a prin-
cipal feature of British feeling. He could not but
think otherwise than that the present proposed measure
had been wrung from the Ministry by fear, although it
pained him much to say so. If ithe Maynooth measure
was really to be wrung from Ministers, from the appre-
hension of what the repeal party would do in Ireland, he
would tell them to place their trust in the wisdom and
courage of Englishmen, and at once let a termination
be put to their doubts. He warned them that this
measure would not answer the result they desired,
nor would it conciliate the repeal party of Ireland.
Let them know what Ireland really wanted.—(Laughter.)
Let the Government ascertain what would satisfy
them.—(Continued laughter.) He could assure the
Right Honourable Baronet that this measure would
not do so. He had told him so in the most
direct terms, and he repeated again that this measure
would not satify them. The Government had trifled
session after session with that country. They had made
concession after concession. They had made another con-
cession this year, which would be followed by another
and a greater. It was but right and proper that the
House should know the worst, that they should under-
theyhaancldttoheethe expect—and
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expect,far as they could possibly be, ty be prepared, as
happen afterwards. They would have the
that might
of preparing themselves for any
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the Government in its wisdom might be inclinedtegrant.
Lord HARRY VANE could assure the House that
he would confine his observations to as limited a com-
pass as possible. He felt it necessary in a few words to
state the reasons why he supported this measure, seeing
that he had received several letters expostulating
with him upon the vote which he had
given upon the previous stage of this Bill.
Since that time the increase of population had been so
great as to require an increase' of the body who supplied
the spiritual necessities of Ireland. He should hare
thought that an increase to the incomes
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duals who supplied that want would
unreasonable. But he must confess that he cared not so