The Sun.
London, England, 1817-03-14 00:00:00

SINECITE AND USELESS OFFICES.

Earl.Chto,vENna presented two petitions on the
subject of Public Economy and ParliMilendary
ltd form. One of these was from a recent Meet-
idtg in the Borough of Southwark. lie accom-
panied them with 0 few' reimoks, lint in such a
tone as that the. whole could Out be distinctly
heard! below.the bar. tie appeared to make,sodue
ulbdiou to ti(m)e yeCetli #.l9,lll,enCeS at Manche-1-
(re, and in disapprove of telt had !teen done in
the view of counteractiog them. lie regretted
their Lorehl. ips' declaim, the other oight, and cen
gored the. system generally pursued by his Ma-
jesty's Goertnment, and depiecated a recurrence
to measures of )o'ree and coercion, instead of con-
reform, and a compliance with. the
wishes•of the people, which were sti generally
and loudly expressed. Force 'certainly way 0.1)
the expression of these wishes for the moment,
but such was not the way ultimately to restore
quietness and harmony. 'I he wishes of the people,
so kept down, would at smite thne or other pro-
duce a dreadful re-action—a political and moral
a ke
t.
earthqu'.
TneEell of LACIURDALE strongly protested
ag-iinst any idea held forth, that the vote of the
the ifider yt as a dderutimition to
keep up B..ninntJer. of tis, trs3 and sinecure offices.
The afiidtim rests l Met..ely, upon ,the tinestion
what were sinecure and useless. offices ? The
hiedguye recomilletidell by the Noble Earl wank!,
in the eeenr, instead -of alleviating the distress of
the country, go in frectito increase them. There
were a number of phices where the emoluments
were allowed, not merely as a recompense for the
.1111411041 labour, but also with a siew to the great
responsibility incurred by the holders, and with
the view of forming n proper reward leir the
whole. The question turned upon the considera-
:jou whether the places wete useless or not, and
he was therelme anxiems that it 611061 d Ilot go
out to the pishlic, that this House was desirous of
keeping opt, number of useless places.
Lord llotasitco Said, he must observe, that his
Noble f'riend's mot ioo did*not attach tperely upon
sinecure office 3, but eo ',mine, upon useless places
--situation-'where emoluments were disbnrsed
'without any service being attached to them.
' The Earl of LAUPBRDALE shortly explained.
narl littoiverion observed, that it the inquiry
so often recommended lad, been gone into, their
Lordships would ere now have betomeso
enedi upon the subject, that there would net have
been so many Not-contentsto.his md.tion.
Lord HOLL4Nb said a few words in expla-
nation.

`The Earl of I.J.subentrAmt expressed his disap.
probation of the Houre attempting to decide upon
any abstract propositions ; tI. more so when
composed of phrases in thetit44 Ives tmintelligible.
Their decision would be different in cases where
the places were shewn to he really useless. As
far RS lIIRI could be ascertained, lie would be as
ready to recommend the abolition as his Noble
Friend. ,Jie rose to explain for the purpose of
taking of =the possible impiession, that the Hotte
refused, under any circumstances which may be
pr„),„„ed, to concur in the abolishing of offices
which were really useless. What bad been sHiti
by his Noble Friend, would, Without explanation,
go to open the,way for the public to think that a

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number of menwere drawing 4101 mi-wilts froni
ifbees eery different elesc from whit
they really tvvre.

Th.e were laid upon thi: table aftei
thuirLordsliips adjmitned.

1101.1 SE OF 'COMMONS,

Mr. JACKSot4 moved, that the Arun and.Portit•
month Onal Bill he read a second titre.
Lord U. CaVetilinsti objected td the. motion, as
he was convinced that in the line. throng!) whicii
it was proposed this Canal shoiild run, nine-
tenths of the landed prop:l,l6l's were againSt the
projected measure. He therefore loved, us ati
Antendment, that the. Bill be tead a second dine
thig day-six months.
Mr. linixtssoit suppOtted the Amendinent.'
Aster to few obitrVaiions Cm))) Sir C. 13tiattiiw0;
Sir J. YoRE: Fr, and sonic (itlivr Members, the
Amendment was withilraVen.; and the Bill was read
a second time.

A Return Of the Value of and Imports
in Great Britaiu and Ireland tor 1813 and
Isla %vita laid otr the t ab:e, and ordered to be
ptinted.
11r. Want brought in a 13111 for regulating the
labour iii persons empluyvti in Collcuie:3, hicit
was rend a first time. •

The 111411 Hon se Big went through a Commit.
•
tee.•-;—Report on 'Moodily.
The Mutiny Bill %Nem through a Committee of
the whole House.--4teport to-mori•ow. •
The Report of the Committee Ott Ways MO
Means was brought The Resolutions *..4.e
read nod agreed to, and leave t s given to 'bring
in Bills aecuidiu (to Ott:m.l'
Mr. W. WYNNE gave notice, that he would; on
an early 'slay; more tor lettve to bring in a BILL
fur shortening the duration of Polk at Elections.
Mr. CALVHEIT presented a petition fur Reform.
and Retrenchnient, from the l'ari,h of St, Obtve,
in the Borough of Southwittk.—Retttl, and laid.
on the table.

Mr. CaLvetur presented-a petition for Reform
and 11Fttenehment, 'lron* ILO Vat ish of St. Miry,
Lotinbetlt.—'flie petit:on wu) vead and laid on the
table.

Mr. C%t.reor presented n Piiirtion fioin on in,
iiliilattil ot Ore, name of Winiain Dickenson, of
Tooley-street,,in th.e Borottglii which stated that
his rather Ives forrecely an i,tilc rr in his Niajtisty's
,ervici..—!!)nt tie hail ton ht at the battle a Lin-
dcn, %vlsct:e tie lost iin arm—that the petitioner
hart iippricti in Inuit to CVl.l'itt A:embers oh the Aa.
winktration, iitol We now !aped brit the ilutiN'e
woad- extend to him sonteircl.cf.—Letkid on the
table.

Sir J. Na'r'y prestented a petition frmn the
Coach liarne3s Maketn or the City of Ie •
turd, Staling that their trade Lad couswerahly tie-
Ciitted in consecptence of the high taxts Whiett
were imposed on horses and cameges, TNti pray-
ing for n t of thOse taxes.--Iteitti aoti
laid ott the table.

Sir. J. EwPuccr moved fnr tt return of the grost
amount of Assessed 'notes 11;Vied in Ireland, mud
alio of the taxes imposed on burs( s, earl lap do
and servants in Ireland lOr the last seven ,-eats.—.
Ordered.,

Mr. busHIIGTO!,I moved for leave to bring in
a Bill to iiinendand explain the 4ct for imposing
taxes on the windows-of shops and wArehooses.
Sir M. liI6LEY wished to know whether it was
the intention of the 'Hight lion. Gentkinan to
have the tax. still extend to the windows of. an
warehouses.

Mr. Lu4litsoToN replied, that he Intendetj to
limit theccx.:lo dfoustil
only us wtve' outilicteil with counCttg
Leave given. •

Str F. BURDETT presented a rition for Re-
form, tram Dom Am the kWh:.

WYNNE moved, tirat a pilition front
certain persons, residing in tile tIUI of the itl4;
tended Nei* s`Ftrevt, be telttreti to the New Street
Coe tinitteeo—il gre eci to.