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London, England, 1845-03-18 00:00:00

DEODANDS BILL.

On the motion of Lord CAMPBELL, the House went
into Committee on the Deodands Bill.
The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH said, that this was
a very short B:ll—that there was one part of it which
he thought might be spared. There were two roasons
given for one effect ; and- that he thought-one of these
portions might with advantivs'e be omitted from the Bill.
He thought the fever words that were introduced into
an Act of Parliament, provided they were sufficiently
intelligible, the better.
Lord CAMPBELL said that he was prepared to re,
ceive whatever might fall from the Noble Earl with the
utmost respct, but in this instance he thought he was
mistaken. His object had been to make the Bill as
short as possible—indeed he conceived it to be a model
of a preamble, for it did not consist of more than three or
four liars. His object had been to preclude the verb sity
of lawyers, and he conceived that was one of the perfec-
tions of an Act of Parliament.—(Laughter.) He thought
there ought to he no deodand where there was malice or
wilful negligence, and, therefore, he would do away
With deodands in cases of murder or manslaughter. A
eupeata in
India,
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re
man might do too much.
The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH ssid that the Noble
Lord had made a long speech on a short Bill, but nine-
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f havend
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ld say
that hewas there ady at any moment toderend his con
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noble or ineen—arid, he.only wished that what had b. ea
said in his absenee might be repeated in his presence.
Lord CAMPBELL said that, if the Noble Earl
thought a ith him, he would suffer such things to. take
their course. If the Noble Earl wes content with matters
ortdh e
ChathamNble Lordto a
E
as they were, so was he, and he would not disturb them.
The • Earl of ELLENBOROUGH said that he had
)venturedposi
tewhich a
give
onceword given
of advice
by
Lord
Member of the other House—" that, if he meant nothing,
he should say nothing."
Lord BROUGH said he could assure the Noble
Earl that as often as anything was sa;d in his absence,
he was zealously, fearlessly, anxiously, ably, and success-
fully defended by his Noble Friend the Gallant Duke
opposite. and as zealously, though God knew, not so ably
er successfully, by the humble individual who then ad
dres,ed them.-(Hear.- hear.)
The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH said he owed a deep
debt of gratitude, both to his Noble Friend the Gallant
but he could not
,Deunlitueraend
The House then resumed.
nowll et
oNs(pthelaek Lordo tfie t°sPuPb7eiette.'
PROPERTY. TAX.
Lord iVHARNCLIFFE moved the second reading oF
this Bill It merely contained the measure passed seine
few 3 ears siuce, and he shoull propose that the this us-
Lion on this Bill, as well es on the inearne-tax, should be
taken at one and the same time.
The 'Marquis of LANSDOWNE said both the mea-
sures were of great public importance; but he quite
agreed with the Noble Lerd that one discussion would
aeswer every object.—(Hear, hear.) lie thought
the discussion could be more conveniently taken
after the holidays, but he hoped this adrnlssion would
not be construed into a confession that he wai indifferent
on the subject. It had been said that the people were
enamoured of this measure, but he was far from enter-
taining thet-• feeling.
Lord BROUGHAM said if the measure had consisted
of a mere property-tax many of his objections to the
Bill would cease altogether He agreed with his Noble
Friend. that it was convenient that these matters should
be diselessed ell at once, instead of their being taken
piecemeal: • He therefore thought they bad better
postpone the di,cussion, but it was not to be
understood from this that he was enamour' d
with the law. lie was, however, inclined to endure it,
for the sake of getting those fiscal changes which had
tven promised by the Government ; and when the dis-
cussion was taken, he should be prepared to state what
were the m3dificatione he wished to introduce into the
present measure.

The Duke of WELLINGTON said it would be a
matter of general convenience, if their Lordships' House
would postpore the discussion on this question until the
third reading, as many Noble Lords were absent who
might wish to give their opinions on the measure.
Lord ASHBURTON said, that though there were
various opinions on the question in the other House and
throughout the country • and though it had been stated
in other places what should be done, and what
should not be done, in that House with the
solitary exception . of a Noble Lord there
seemed to he but one feeling on the subject. Under these
circumstances he thought it would be snore convenient
to defer the discussion till the third reading.
The Bill was then read a second time and ordered to be
committed to-morrow.
RAILWAY COMPANIES CLAUSES CONSOLI-

DATION BILL.
Oa the siotion of Earl DALHOUSIE the Companies
Clauses Consolidation Bill went through Committee, and
the report was ordered to be brought up
to-morrow.
UPEIt LUNATICS.
Lord MONTEAGLE said that he wished to draw
attention to the Rill which' he had had the honour of pre.
seating to their Lordship-. His object was to obtain a
better titede of treatment for pauper lunatics. It was
well known that in many parts of the country the gaols
Were full—not of criminals—but of pauper lunatics, for
whose care and medral treatment no provision whatever
had been made. His object was to extend to Ireland
tho benefits which were already enjoyed partially in
England, and he. wished to give to the Lord Lieutenant
of Ireland a power which he did not at present pos,.ess,
namely that of classifying lunatic asylums. This would
he a great boon to the country, and if he could obtain
the assistance (i her
Majesty's Government he should
fuel it most valuable, or if her Majesty's Government
would themselves introduce a Bill on the subject he
Ellould be most happy to render whatever assistance he
could to carry it to an early completion.
The Duke of WELLINGTON snit', his Right Hon.
Friend the Secretary for Irela,'d :tad given notice in the
other House of Parliametit. of ins intention to bring
forward a measure on this subject, which he proposed to
perfect during his visit in Irelaad.
The Bill w4S then read a tir'-t time, and their Lord.
shipi immediztely afterwards adk,urnerl.

HOUSE:OF COMMONS, Much 17.
Tile House resumed at Five o'cic.ek.
Sir C. .LEM.ON brought in the Cornwall Railway