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PARI•IAMENT,

DOUSE OF LORDS, MAY -16.•
The Marquess cf LANSDOWN moved for a Re-
turn of all Wines imported into this Country,
and exported from it, from the year 1786 to 1820.
Ordered.
Several Private Bills were brought up from the
Commons, and read the first time.
On the motion of Lord MELVILLE the Scotch
Court of Sessions and Court of Admiralty Bills
'vent• through the- Committees.—Adjourned till
to- morrow.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
LIMERICK.'
The House .having failed yesterday to accom-
plish the Ballot for a Committee to try the merits
of the Petition complaining -of an undue return
for the city of Limerick, proceeded at rour
o'clock this day to ballot for the said Commit-
tee. At a subsequent part of the evening Mr.
Dyson, the Clerk, appeared at the Bar, with
the Reduced List, the names on which were as
follow
L. V. Palk, Beet .1. 11. Penrucidock, Esq.
Hon. Sir G. L. Cole. C. Duncombe, Esq.
Goulburri, Esq: Lord Walpole.
Ern P. Musgrave, Bart. S. Graham, Esq.'
Dr. Phillimore. Abel Smith, Esq.
C. Chaplin, Esq. and.,
T. 31acqueen, Esq. G. Lucy, Esq.
The Members named were then directed by the Speaker to
withdr.w and choose. two Nominees. On their return they
stated, that the Hon. Gentlemen whom they had, chosen were-..
S. Ponene, Esq. and N. Calvert, Esq. •
CRIMINAL LAW.
[sir J. MACKINTOSH; adverting to the second reading of
;he three Bills, for the mitigation of the Criinial Law, which
stood for that night, and on the impracticability of consider:ng
them, under the circumstance of the important discussion, the
-debate of which bad been adjourned that morning, threw him-
self on the candour and kiridness- Of his Hon. Friend the Mem-
ber for'Shrewsbury to postpone his motion, -which stood for tu-
mmy*, in order•to enable-him (Sir J.: Mackintosh) to fii the
stieond reading of his Bills for to-morrow. - •
Mr: BEN NET acquiesced in his Hon. and Learned Friend's
request. At the same time he begged it to be distinctly under-
snood, tat .to no propositions except such as thaseof his Hon.
.a Learned Friend, which related to the amelioration of our
Criminal Code, would he allow that the question whichh-e (Mr.
Bennet) wished to bring forward, namely, whether that House
should be free from placemen and pensioners, ought to yield in
importance. Under the peculiar circumstances. of the' case,
however, he would withdraw his notice on that strbject which
stood for to-morrow, and fix it for the 3lst inst.
Op the motion of Sir .1; MACKINTOSH, the second read-
ing of the- rorgery Punishment Mitigation Bill, the Dwelling
House Robbery Bill, and the Navigable Rivers Robbery,Bill
was postponed to to-morrow..
At the suggestion of Mr. Bennet, and after a few word* front
Me. Barham, the second reading of the Audit Bill -was post-
poned from to-morrow to Friday se'nr.ight..
NEWINGTO,N SELECT VESTRY- •
The SPEAKER having 'called on Mr. H. Sitmner, that
Gentleman rose, as did Mr. Denison and Sir Robert
the latter two wit:lr Petitions in their hands against the Newing-
ton Select Vestry Bill. - .
'Pile SPEAKER observeij, that it was his duty to read the
names on his paper as they occurred. If any Hon. Member,
whose name he read-, chose to give way, it was entirely
ter of courtesy. Any other practice would he attended with
great inconvenience both to himself and the house.
Mr. DENISON requested of his -Hanoi-treble Colleague, its
a matter of courtesy, to . allow hiin to present his Petition be-
fore he (Mr. N. Sumner) made the motion of which he had
given notice.
- Mr. 11. SUMNER declined doing this, observing, that his
Honourable Colleague could not know what course it was his
intention to pursue until he had made his motion, and that
therefore he had' Vetter wait until then. The Hon. Member
then entered into a detailed history of the Newington Select
-fires try -Bill ' • on the conduct of the Committee appointed to
consider which he now, for the, third time, addressed the House.
The Committee had sat for eight days, but had made no pro-
gress in-the Bill, andhad in' no respect complied with the in-
structions of the House. The petition presented yesterday,
which contained an Accurate statement of what had passed in
the Committee, would save him from the painful necessity of
narrating it. After having, for the third time, referred the
subject to the Committee in vain, be now considered it hopeless
to expect that the Committee would execute the Orders of the
House. There were precedents of cast*, in which a Committee,
having twice omitted to execute the Orders of the House, were
discharged from further proceedings. He was.not aware, how-
ever, that that had taken place with respect to a Committee on
a private Bill. As he could not 'expect that if this were done
in the-present cwie, the House would not content, for the first
to go into a Committee of the whole House on the Bill,
it being a prisate Bill, he was led to consider the propriety of
appointing
another Select Committee.—(Hear, hear !)—The
Fosse having recognised the interest of the Bill so-far as to
agree to the second reading, ought certainly not to allow the
ineeresti of the parties to it to be altogether abandoned. Under
the circumstances he had stated, some remedy certainly ought
to he:applied ; but he was desirous rather to throw himself on
the (goose, and to entreat that they would point out the par-
tietelar remedy. He would now, however, move that the Se-
lect Committee on the Newington Select Vestry Bill be dis-
charged from further, -proceedings., with a view, if he found
the House dispose& to acquiesce in that proposition, to follow
it
.up by moving for the appointment of another Select Corn
mace..

Mr. DENISON considered the proposition made by his Ho-
nourable Colleague to be one of a most extraordinary nature.
His Honourable Colleague was so accustomed to Carry every
thing by a triumphant majority, that when he found himself
beat in numbers as well a.senargument, he immediately came to
the House to complain. He hoped his Honourable Colleague
would some day or other occupy a seat on the Opposition, side
of the House, and then he would become more accustomed to be
in Si minority, and beteer able to bear it.--;A laugh.)—The Ho-
nourable Gentleman (Mr. Denison) proceeded at considerable
length to show the inexpediency of the Bill: - He entered into a
history of the Newington Vestries, and contended that they. had
not geeerally been the tumultuous and noisy meetings which
they had been Unjustly described to be. Ono scene of some
:collusion, he allowed, had taken plate •at A meeting of the
• vestry ;._but that he attributedeto the Rector'l .abruptly leaving
the chair without having adjourned the vestry. - He proceeded •
to contrast the 10.5 individuals who had petitioned in favour of
the Bill, with the 1940 who-had-pctitiohea against-it. After ad-
vesting to the doubtful charaCter of some of tae former number,
he compared the two bodies in point of property.' The rental
of tha parish-was £84,000. That of the .106 petitioners was
£l,4oo,butbe couldbringlo6ofthe 1940,whoserentaiamounted
to .4.1,508: The object of the Bill was to place the superintendance
of taxes, bOth parochial an!' King's, in the hands of a Select
Vestry, the members of which ware to hold theiroffices for life,
and to appoint their su ccessors.—(H ear !)--If evee there was tax-
aton without represenmtion, the proposed plan would exhibit.:
it, arel he need not remind the House of the dreadful mischief's
whieh taxation without representation- had occasioned in this
country. The Newington Junta had also declared that no man
should be appointed even a Cherchwarden in' the Paris'n, unless
he was a Member of the Church of England thereby exclud-
ing the ponscientioua Dissenter and --the conscientious Quaker ;
both eminent for their charity and other good qualities. Ad-
vertingfo the discussions- which had taken- place in the Cohi-,
Inittee,.heAdmitted and lamented that some of those debates
had been rather-of a strong character, and detailed several of
the circumstances that had produced that effect. He was de-
termined to oppose to the last, a measure so unjust, so unjusti-
fiable, and se unconstitutional as -that proposed. In thus put-
ting himself in opposition to the Bill he felt that he had merely
done his duty, and he hoped the House would never allow it to
pas% into a law.

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Mr. BYNG. expressed a hope that the.Honourable Mem-
ber for Surrey (Mr. Holme Sitinner) would withdraw his mo-
,-tion, and allosi the Committee to proceed upon its inqui-
( 'fear.)

Mr. TULk said, that he had in the Committee observed
that they were tie servants or the House, but he assured the
Hononrable Members oppoiite that he meant nothing of-
fensive by the expression. He thought it no disgrace to
have any• set of Gentlemen considered the servants of that
House. If, however, the tern) was considered offensive, .he
would apologise for it, but not before he heard from authority
that it was so.
Mr. DENISON explained. •
Mr. Alderman WOOD observed, that the first disturbance
in the Committee arose. from the Honourable'Chairman•(Mr.
Ir. Sumner) having refused to receive letters from certain per-
sons who had, under a false impression; signed the Petition in
favour of the Bill, hut who afterwards wished to withdraw their
names. Much had been said about delay, but he could assure
the House that the principal delay was caused by the Honour-
Ale Chairman and his friends. So convinced was he (Alder..