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London, England, 1826-03-17 00:00:00

1;01,11'10N OF SLAVERY.

petitions fot thik object were promented from the inh,biullits
Rovhdaleoultlfrollt the vicinity of Rochdale, by Lord Stun.
r' ev front' portal nod its mighboothooti by Mr. Lindsay; from
,u by Alt. 11. Cooper; from the Ptotesutot Doisentets
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w c, by Air. Elititon Own Exeter, Wood
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The 'LORD ADVOCATE defended himself from tins
charges brought against him by the Noble Lord. He objected
to the production of the warrant i but with respect to *at' W.
pets that would serve to explain his own conduct, he wait most
anxious that they should be produced.
Mr. A BERCROM BY supportml the motion.
Mr. PEEL said, that the case which the Noble Lord hod
brought forward was the Twist frivolous imaginable, as a ground
for ernsuring a public officer. The Lord Advocate had done
no more than given his honest opinion in compliance with
the request of the Crown. The Bight Hon. Gentleman con,
eluded with expressing his resolution to resist the motion, so
Maras it required the production of the confidential reports of
he law officers.
)Ir. HUME supported the motion of the Noble Lord. Ile
wished to see the Melville interest in Scotland destroyed; it
WAN the bane'of that country, and even infienced the Judicial hppointtnents.
' .Mr. PEEL denied most positively the statment of the Hon.
Member, that the judicial appotnttnents, In Svotland were so
influenced.
After a few words front Sir Ronald Fergusson, Mr. Baring,
Mr. Peel, and land A. Hamilton, in reply, the motion was
aggreed to the following form 1—
‘, That an humble Address he presented"to hir Iltlajesty,
praying that his Majesty will be pleased to direct that there he
laid beibre the House copies (Wall petitions to the Privy Coon,•
ell by the Inhabitants of the burgh of Pittenweem, subsequent
to the disfranchisetnent of the Ilurgh, together with a copy of
the warrant front the t!rown for anew election."
• . ' ' k .ts TY INDIA WRITERS.
' !?tir. C. W. W. W VNN rose to bring forward the I.o*
"j;i7Zhi'nbettlileadstft';iji(;lel of the Enitlitintira Clhoetnritryl."7"-. '1'...7
Act of 6:1 Geo. 111. r. Int, no person could be app. ntii,
writer who had not p.i•sed four terms At the „1;4,' ~
College. Since the establishment of the College, •
olid
thin of the Company's territories the necessity , tott hag on additional number of Zillah Akers in I pemn,,,,,, ,it . '
valises, there lutd been a deficiency of qu . " pat of qua.
tyro found also that there was a disposition
0 i 'order to pisaveit
Hu eft persons to conceal their qualifieolli;erior. thno illett
their being sent a hundred miles intt?ltu wilters, atai it
was
Ili iti'Orrear of " le" than sere r'
nuts
t.e:hoti. .11%6 put,
crck'ulated that fifty would be re. oid ~„, it of
utr0.,...,
orit establishment. of the Coll** i'Y'llg.

aid =Miser. His object therefore, was to auspend the opera-
' t tlf the clause in the statute referred to, in order that per
lnightebe ticketed who had not passed their four terms,
who wend* qualified. This measure Wasnot intended
cIY, a iiitrust of the system pursued at the College. He
• , 'rpm) Nelieved the system had fully answered its pur-
pose. If the question related to the netoe constitution of the
College, he should decidedly prefer its being assimilated to our
aisting Universities, as he conceived it was much less advan-
tageous to persons to be educated in classes, than to be
mixed together. At the same time he considered that it
was highly creditable to the establishment that in the short
space of two years the students Requital so much. The other
point embraced by the bill he was now about to move for, re-
spected the payment of allowances on 'account of officers dying
when absent froM India. The act of the 53d of George 111.
provided that certain allowances should be paid to officers,
while absent from India, on account of ill health, for a period
not exceeding three years; but beyond that, time no allowance
4as granted. This was a very considerable hardship on those
(acme; whose state of health tendered it impossible for them
"to return to India within the prescribed period. They ought,-
•widh was not now the case, to be allowed to draw some allow.
Imre, if it weee neeeseary. for their support, beyond that speci.
_lied period: otherwise, the chance was, thatthey would get into
AA:ethics, and the time given them for the recovery of their
health would be absolutely lost. By going back to India within
three years, any of those individuals would be entitled to claim
'a certain allowance, tinder the act of Parliament. Many Gill.
`tiers had done so in consequence of the state of the law before
their health was completely estaldished, and the consequence
was, that they had fallen victims to disease: The object of
,the bill, in this respect, would be to give to officers, going
to the. Cape of Coed Hope or to Ceylon, on account of ill
,health, the %ante allowances as if they were in India, and also
to provide for the payment of' ollowances on account of officers
slymg while absent from Intik on account of ill health. The
Bight Hon. Gentleman concluded by moving, " that leave he
.eoiv en to bring in a Bill to suspend the Act of the ,aid of Get).
AU. so far as respects the appointment of writers in the service
of the East India Company, anti to remove deulusits to the pay.
anent of the allowances of officers dying while absent from
,India."
Mr. HUM F: observed, that what had been stated in the course
of the Right lion. Gentleman's speech, casts in his opinion,
a strong, and by no means an unjust reflection on the East
India Company's institution at Haileybury. • He thought that
the whole of the system on which that institution was *found,
tea was exceedingly injurious. The young. men were shutout
from all society, and they had no opportunity of acquiring
the least knowledge of the world. Such a system was amt.
.lated to destroy the native character of Englishmen. The
speech which Lord Grenville delivered, in another place,
against the formation of this College, did him the greatest ho-'
,hour. The arguments adduced by that Noble Lord were, in
his (Mr. Home's) mind, conclusive against the system; and
experience had amply 'proved that the Noble Lord's view of the
subject was correct. He clearly showed what would be the re.
Salt of such a system. Year after year disturbances had taken
place in that College, and the young men acquired any thing
but that high tone of, honour, principle, and public spirit,
.which they ought to imbibe to fit them for the high situations
which they were destined to fill. He, for one, had often de
Plored the situation m which India was placed, in consequence
of the formation of, such an establishment. Young men were
sent out to act In the most important capacities without an g 6.
neral knowledge of the world. individuals were kept up in that
secluded mointetry, as he might call it, when they could acquire
no knowledge of active life.—(llear!)--.:Perhaps he might be
wrong in using the phrase secluded monastery, when he recol-
lected the disturbances which the young mete created in the
neighbourhood ; but he was perfectly convinced that he was
Correct as to his general view of the mischief produced by that
establishment. The system was most preposterous. Y(sung
men who never had mixed in English society—young men of
22 or 23 years of age—were raised to the rank of Judges in
the Zillah Courts; many of which had jurisdiction over a
space larger than Yorkehire. No later titan yesterday, a gen.
Henan informed him that his son, a young man not more than
24 years of age, bad obtained one of these situations. For five
Successive years, attempts had been made in the Court of Pro.
prietors of East India Stock to alter the system which pre-
vailed as to the education of writers; but every attempt had
failed. He was glad, therefhre, that Government had at het
taken up 04e subject. Ile hoped, however, that the night
lion. Gentleman would select some proper mode of examine-
tuns for persons going out to Witte-that he would adopt some
test to which all individuals proceeding to that country phould
he subjected. Ile wished those persons educated in the Col.
lege, as well as those educated out of it, should be subjected to
the same test. Ile was surprised that sonic measure of this
:nature had not been before resorted to, after the number of re.
presentations which 'had been made on the subject. But the
-east was, that the Court of Directors had no will of their own.
They were nothing ; they were obliged to obey the Right lion.
Gentleman (Mr. Wynn), or any other Right Hon. Gentleman
Who might fill his aimation. lie wished that some provision'
*ere adopted, by which persona appointed to military situations
-*mild be compelled to acquire a certain degree of information
in the lariguege ordinarily spoken in India, before they went
out there. Every public servant sent out to India ought to be
properly (planar(' to perform the duties attached to his situe.
tion. He admitted that the business of Haileybury
was better conducted now than formerly; still, however, he
must express his decided conviction that it never would answer
the purpose for which it was originally intended. It wits only
to much brick and mortar, and the expellee incurred by keep-
ing the establiiihment up ought to be done away.
Captain BRAD THAW shortly adverted to the necessity
which existed for instructing the cadets in the ordinary lan.
gunge Of Indie.
Sir T. BA 111 NC agreed in opinion with the Hon. Member
for 'Aberdeen, that the instituticn at Haileybury had been pro.
.tinctive of more harm than good. Those who went out to India
Ile servants of the Company ought unquestionably to receive it
Irberal education ; and to prove that they were properly quali-
fied they ought to be subjected to a certain. examination, If
they could be educated under the eyes of their friends and rein-
fives, it would he bettir than if they received instruction apart
from them,
Mr: C. GRANT trusted that his Right Hon. Friend would
only make this a temporary measure. The whole of the com-,
plant ts made against Halley bury College rested on mere vague
.report. Tnat heaitution laud been opposed by the protectors of
.petronage—by those who obstinately adhered to the former sys-
tem, merely on account of its having hang preveiled ; and who
were adverse to any improveMent, which they regarded as a
dangerous innovation ; and likewise by a certain class of the
Company's servants in India, who conceived that it would
.roilitate to their prejUdiee. The College had been opposed by
.the united force of all those conflicting interests. It had also
.Opptments both in the Court of Directors and in the Court
-or Proprietors. Much had been asserted about the distur.
barmen and irregularities which occurred in that establish-
ment. On this point be would only say, and he defied those'
who censured the College to., the proof, that those distur-
bances and irregularities were not greater in number or de-
gree than were to be seen "in other seminaries of the same
magnitude. Ile would not enter into the number of minor
complaints which had been alleged against this establish-
ment; but he would contend that during the laid twenty
years (the pericid during which this college had stood) there
was a marked and decided improvement in the conduct and
chdracter of the East India Company's servants in India. It
was useless to talk to him of the danger, and mischief, and
evils, which heti been engendered by the formation of this
College. Instead of dealing in vague assertion, he would at
once WO the sentiments which men of very great talent, anti
veto) were perfectly competent to form a just opinion on this
tubject,'had expressed as to the usefulness of this Institution.
In 1810, Lord 111 into spoke highly of its usefulness; a few
years after Colonel Roebuck gave testimony of It similar cha-
mete: ; and, finally. the Marquis of Haitings had expressed
hie approbation of ;he College in the mos unqualified terms.—
(Weer 1)—lf he were not mistaken, the Marquis of Hastings
traced much attic: proficiency ih knowlege, and much of the
efficiency which was displayed by the Company's servants in
the discharge oftheir duties, to the *terms which they were
obliged to pass at fluileybury College. And this night, his
Right Ilan. Friend (Mr. Wynn) had suited that every comm..
nic.ation which he received frOTTI India more strongly convinced
him ache, usefulness of that college. .t ccording to the statement
Grids night llon.Priend the bushiest oft-iovernment was carried
on in the most satiefactory manner., and almost entirely by Jinn,
viduals who had been educated at ilaileyburp That instini-
dun bad been found to Meet the peculiar circumstances of the
time; and the result had been the creation of a body of public
funetionttriev not Inferior to any that ever existed.—( Hear !)
Serne gentlemen were otopimon,that the present measure ought
to be nettle permanent ; and that it would be sufficient for
every purpose, if individuals going out to India were obliged to
submit to some common test. There appeared, at first sight,
something very plaesiide in this ; but it should be observed,
thet this test k) examination could apply to nothing but lite.
re:ore. It could have no reference. to xcholastic
to moral character; er to propriety. of conduct. Besides,
thiritlenien count feel how easy it was to procure a card.
etwe of prOfiriency under such a test as haft been alluded
to. TherefOre.
leaving out of the question the habits of mo.
rehikeitaiee which the present system produced, that, even
in a literary point of view, the uuisln of education which was
eeeeeerea by the oppooents of Ileileybury College would be
extrenidy defective. When individuals spoke of the prof'.
.tieney which a young man ought to °loam before lie pro.
ceeded -to India, he took it that they adverted to the lowest
ilegtee protici eicy tO that which might be flied as a mini-
"seat.
Now, it wets quite evitient toliars that that minimum
• onitddi be'botb the Minimum /and the m4ximum. There would