The Sun.
London, England, 1845-05-10 00:00:00

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promote the social and religious peace of
was to make the institutions of the country hat'
monise with the religious feelings of the pet:oe'
No nation in Europe was so deficient of academical instita.
tioris as Ireland. Holland had a population nearly equal to
Ireland, and she had three universities ; Prussia, with a P°-
pulation of thirteen and a half millions, had eight univer-
sities ; Bavaria, with a population nearly four millions, bad
three institutions of this kind ; in France there was one ut!!e
versity to ev:ry million and a half of the population ; whit,
Ireland had only one to eight millions. There ought to be el.
least five or six instead of one for such a population as Ireland
He was persuaded that many of the evils of Ireland bad
arisen from the want of education, and hence the Govern-
ment
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proposition should have his hearty support. It sb".
command his warmest support, as he looked upon it
measure well calculated to improve the condition of Irelande
Mr. ACLAND rose to defend the Hon. Member for the
University of Oxford, (Sir Robert Inglis) from the ettae,s_
which had been made upon him by the Hon. Member tor
Bath. He (Mr. Arland) was willing to take his
of the blame attached to his Right Hon. crienee
in his charging the Government propesitien as a " gigani
scheme of Godless education." He was not prepared to 1(1..041..
the words his of Hon. Frieed, but in the spirit he was agr'Zl
He believed the Government were perfectly honest in the P"7,
which they had brought forward, for he had neser seen lease:
to think them otherwise in any part of their general condr_
but lie regretted that they had not paid more attention tei II
religious feelings of the country, and acted less in a liberal anu
letitudiearian seirit. At pre-ent lie was not prepared to feitl's
deeidel opinion on the measure, but he promised to give ' ore
patient attention and consideration. He sympathised In h),
with the sound and practical views that had been expressed. ,
the Roman Catholic members who had spoken on the
than in the liberal views of the other suorters of the st!'a_
sure. He doubted the soundness the print' le of educating
of Fe. se el
of different religious persuasions together in one el
nary, and was of opinimi that more good would be done
lie
each religious persuasion having a collage of its own. test
was further of opinion that a system of mere lectures like rule
proposed could scarcely be considered education, hat vir"
rather lead to what Coleridge had called " Lecture Baal of
and do little towards the effectual education of the peel
e
Ireland. the
Lord PALMERSTON said he was glad to find than en
Government had proposed the present measure iis thetla
they had done, and, considering the state of Ireland, " that
not think that they could proceed in any other way than re to
question.
which they did. It was objected that no professors would
be appointed to teach certain theological opinions. Y'ee be
they establish one professorship of theology ? If one.snse, Wilbet
to be a Protestant professor? And if so. did they sop col'
the Roman Catholics-would send their children to tnuvio be
loges ?—( Hear, hear.) If the professor of theology vial„.o4 em
a Roman Catholic, did they suppose that the Pretestemfor,
the other hand, would send their children theree7jet jos?
hear.) Would they have professors of both reaear.)
If so, what became of the system of mixed education.--A•oesh/
That would defeat the design of cementing the tore religeloi the
relations of mutual harmony, which ' was the objet eiteb•
measure.—( Hear.) A theological civil war would bla,. be•
lished in those colleges and universities, instead of T"`";0.....
comihg, as was expected, the foundation of religions Pet WO
(Laughter.) There is no other alternative but lust ether,
should be no theological professor of one creed er theeot, ie
but that both parties should receive theological jostruc" trot
academies exclusively devoted to theological purnmel* 000
was the only mode in which they could proce'd tsr
they could have the students lodged and snob
s.
ether, as in Oxford and Cambridge, but hese it
system would eatail such an amount of expenditure rota
wouldbe out of the question to think that Parlitunen of teeth
incur it.—( Hear, hear.) He had himself experieoed_ eviir
systems, because he was three years at the universityL;de
burgh, where the same system was adopted which woe, feet .s '
adopted in respect of the Irish colleges ; and he aftero 7. And
to Cambridge, where a different system was Pursue 14osit°
01
when persons talked of those colleges not having a tbe°l
OP•
chair, he would appeal to the Right Hon. Gentleman_ ford
the Chancellor of the Exchequer, who was with him has to
Palmerston in Cambridge, to have the goodness to efibieh is
the House chat was the kind of theological educatiolatewiseglol
their time was given at Cambridge.—( Hear, hear; an „Wentia
°
Why it was well known that those who, from the a eerts
their birth, were entitled to the degree of M.A. a_tsos, it esa°
age, were not examined in theology. If that was
to desiiegei •
taking somewhat too large a tberty with expressionle re
nate those colleges theological schools, standing in tnthiere twei's
on the same footing as Cambridge. 1, e' of
It ~
thought that Government adopted tee 014 r f 11417: ''
was applicable to the peculiar circumstances °roe 0 ee
~
and he hailed it as the foundation, first of all, of the g_ed
fie'
improvement in the middle classes of the Irish people%e elite' •.
foundation of social concord between the members e; `oseetg;
rent creeds who composed the population of t only hes r. '
But he agreed with those who thought that this ass
either t.. 0,
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foundation of a more complete plan. He thought, it, Dobil_
the three colleges should be united in one university
sit close; _.
or that Trinity College should be thrown open .._ Ai,ooo 1 1..
which he thought might be done without losing It7,"l„ehter.le
character as an exclusively Protestant college• (Ls-ls sre;
The present measure would be incomplete unerear, belereil
combined with some-arrangement of this kind.—( 2re sh
the .
It would be a matter of regret to him if this twee'
ot like be
meet with any considerable opposition. It ist.eself:3 0105
it,
Maynooth grant, where certain religious °Wel had note ; .;I
urged against it, but it was a measure white._ isey o e_t, f
object the education and instruction of the Cathohn:thouglit the
land, and if it met with any material opposition, he Irish peel"
effect it would produce upon the minis of tn
0 pat
would be most injurious to this country. ...,„ao wishes- t eets
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQuE` . oaten bo
of bur ree . 1
the Noble Lord right with regard to one , enoes of
I
think.wllich was
Threm tNqoubiltee
Lordso tso rhraedc tsatasttehdetZaotbalet IJ.:oereiv...
ni:iseitbreeitycos,:r
Cambridge no theological examination took plae,:rs, bat Dodo
of student; who did not propose taking holy or°`
oble Los
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from this being the case, he could assure the
in every instance students were examined up
to thgc.
Gospel. t ell even ito
.Alr. 'WARBURTON remembered that, a. dots s t
~or.
logical examination, except in the case of situfloch i.-
tended talieg holy orders, was not con sidere" ° te
ance at Cambridge. s, hie dati ee
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said he bad felt it to e- be 0
sense
oppose the Government on the efaynooth grant, bet, Ibis
03
averse to all connexion between Church and State. , enti_g
ste.e, however, was solely of an educational charec,te's, of
it appeared to him highly calculated to benefit all cite' -bearsl
Irish people, he should give the Government ,
support.—Leave was then given to bring in the Bih'
SUPPLY. o oft Slea t
011 pOrtiall 0
tat
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUE"' -4°o sCtsly
the Speaker do leave the chair for the House going in:
the •
mittee of Supply.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE rase with a view of shortle."ljilie icb ..
Poet vete*
attention of the House to the petition of Eliza
the tbe a,
he presented yesterday, anti which was printed st, 1114
that morning. He had since made inquiries idt°.teoel t_nris'
teems contained in the petition, and he regreettebder tbeedyt
they were substantially correct. The Hon. hl kr° beceel7o,
peated the circumstances of the petition, whieuee en sla tiog ,
appeared in The Sun, and concluded by moving eeehequerzeiece .•
merit to the motion of the Chancellor of the Ex The C.
the peti' ion be referred to a Select Committee.. ri eee the .
Committee having power to report their °pinto e''
fib°
deuee to the House. toldeacenegletJr
Sir JAMES GRAHAM said that, in eded Ho. :A be
notice which he had already received from th _ Vie, 5; kf
man opposite, he instituted an inquiry
found that the all peons which were made turelstrat' n'aitnee,-
into the
ea out wee
part! V true. It was highly improper in then. isple:optoy
a warrant when the proper cuur3e would
offence"' --S i 0' 1011
mons. At all events. he thought the &woos. :
one, acid he did not think that issuinke reesio_4oo,
a proper course. The statement of tlei, at sTs SP
entire.,
the statement of the magistrate were of to !leee
and he thought that the matter ought nn-ecesserVat n
lowed to rest as it was. Further inquiry was eroot 'l' ate 0s
thought that the Hon. Gentleman and others/ „vac
bear tho
ets•
mbeaetntesrtaftuerdt,hewroiunldththeinHkcoiltseh.ighly inexpedient to r
lad t° bt iloso
Mr. WAKLEY said that he should be gibe I;iloter
answer from Mr. Briscoe, the mageorate, tet
~_ info ~..eti ta
Gentleman opposite. The brutal conduct of
,_tftl be re7eool;
coring to the misconduct of the magistrate, w.n_rsh,g bee_wore:.
act on the request of the woman, an assault ta!,l tbefeid sr,
mitted in his presence, but at the request: fie 47.,400P; ~,
issued a warrant for the woman's apprehenerwnea etiereflo ,
conceive a more gross case, and if they ell°
tbeY have flee!' • Oi ,
on the part of the magistrate what would
were,cose
constable? If the allegations of the wororee to ren—
. ,
thought that the magistrate should not be allow
e fOrtbeor tb• '
the Bench. , tbse .hie. .
Mr. DUNCOMBE—As it had been stated tostio,-
quiry would be instituted, he begged leave t° •
eoe
amendment which he had proposed. t:rotee
THE MEDICAL BILL' ee of 1 its •e;
. Mr. WAKLEY said that, in comet:ll:retie 1101,00er'le
made the other night, he would ask the '44601%01°0d
if he would say that the Committee of the. h tee,' 001, $
tion had been informed of the terms on vatic to the
tion would be connected with his ineasueecose
whether he had their consent to these proel'ioestion' • ille
Sir J. GRAHAM did not understand the q
elskinflo°'
Mr. WAKLEY then repeated it. nee 00
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re - If
Sir J. GRAHAM said that be did net e°d. obi e'
statement to which the Hon. Member rs,efe!r,_e ~, co
sly
ten -
Gentleman would put it in a form in 41 wee eleseiel ,
Coo w-- o`'-ed
stand it, ht. svould an3wer
Mr. WA KLEY said he thought the ,InZeslefseeet
put on both occasions. If tee Right Lo a% not v" eteti
. ale
state that the charter of ineorporatem .. AO°
soon, he would not say anything about it• , supply, of
The Heuse then went into Committee o_rsiee.
of Meat
a sum of 50,000/. on account for the public acorderstu Of r
The House then resumed, and the oth nursed $
were then dis;-osed of, and the House adr
Twelve o'clock.
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