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terins stroniz a possible, a recom-
Thendrition to the Government to keep the
-Itruotrit cf the forces in the Celonies at as low
a rate as possible. His great object at present
*as to obtain for the Howe all ;lc:count which
Ehotild set fortleltilly and particularly the amount
of the expenses of the Colonial establishments ;
but lie was not sure that Minister's had in their
Inver all such papers as might be necesary for
this purpose. So far as he knew, the whole
amount of the rerenne of the Colony of Ceylon
tvas not ab,lrc o.l4,oool.—drat of ALiiril 114,000/.
end the lonian Islands 120,0001.. It was a very
Inestionalde policy, whether the Crown should be
%110Vved to nominate all the Officers and regulate
Ghe GoYeriinient of all the Colonies without the
)ttrervention of A Colonial Legislature, or any Co-
10nial Representative system ? But he did not
bleat) to enter npoit that CiOestion at present. lie
rould not, however, conclude iVithout noticing,
that by the best inforthation it ,eppeared that
!the Dutch had derived a very considerable revenue
from Ceylon rod the Cape of Good Hope. This
*4" well worthy of consideration ; and the more
to, because the establishments' which the Lurch
had supported in the Colonies could not have been
inconsiderable, seeing that they were kept in such
1.1 slate as to be always ready to resist the attacks
they must Constantly have expected from
Treat Britain. He was convinced that if the Go-
t'ernment would send out persons properly
ied to the Colonic!, to inquite what reductions
#?ight• be fairly Made, that it would be found that
most iniporaet savings would be effected to the
""att'y. ,Leaking on the authority of persons
")f the highest authority on such a point,
that if this system had been adopted with re-
!Peet tO Ceylon five years ago, all those
alatnitotts events which had taken place there,
and had CliSt the country so many valuable
fie 3, and so much money, would have been
""uteri. He had endeavoured to simplify as
trinel, as possible the motions wi,ich he would
!"tialit to the House. They would consist of
'",r for each colony, Ist. An account of the re-
Venne of Ceylou for the last two years. 2d. A
return of thi total expellees of that Colony for
the two last years, distiognishing all the branches
!Itid,particolars of the expenditore. 3d, A return
the Civil U; hers whose salaries amonnt to
1501• per annum and upwards in Ceylon for the
14't year, hove appointed, and whether ex-
rutin;ile('ens of offices in person or
deputy. • 4th. A retort) of the Military, and
taffOffieers in Ceylon for the last year, with
'she amoutit of the pay and einolumenis of each.
'he
meant also to move for similar retorns•from
l!he Nam, of ;‘,7,at it ins,.the Cape of Good Hope,
‘laha, and the lonian Islands.
The first Return from Ceylon was then moved
for.
hMr. G.,YULBURN said, he had already expressed
is winigness to produce the Papers moved for.
43 this was the case, he was sure the House would
hPprove of his abstaining from entering into a dis-
li%sion of all the subjects mentioned by the Hon.
etitlaition, as they embruced various details which
111,„'"I first be in the possession of the House.—
'Olt respect to the looian Islands, however, he
Otliti not agrPe tO the prOduction of such Returns
i4'the lion. Gentleman mentioeed. He objected
° them iu the case of those- States, on a principle
rilich he thoodlat tl,e Honourable Gentleman.
iruself must approve, namely, because the
hilii-411 Islands had' a separate and independent
ii*Rislature and representation. They weir, in
`set, separate States, and so tench so, that G -
tern
had never thou ;ht it necessary to rail
or such accounts from these States. It might
ir .)11'41ts be in the power of his Majesty's High
'''°altnissioner in those Islands to call for such
*l4vertunts, but be thought the House would agree
ith hito thinking that there was not now any
nee •
„essity for calling for then,.
IS-lie emir motions were then agreed to for the
18od of Ceylon, for the Mauritius, for the C3pe
t,tG""d Hope, and for Malta, after a few words
rent Air. C. Fosses, inaudible in rite Gallery.
`-`ll the question for similar 4ccounts for the
.c)flian'lslauds,
idr. tiny E.. said,
ti• (At-Mit:Man (:Ur. Cotillion)) had objected to
%e returtis from the lonian Islands, were not
ii:-tect • He referred to the code for the regula-
0f those Island., as showing that they did
,stTt stand in so rnote a relation to this-country
rito any other European State, as had been
u
ated by the Hon. Gentleman. If this 'country
ete 'tot called upon to vote money for the sup-
iloreet
csoosrarl
eryy t 0 a
the
e lonianc for thea id
s'
returnse s f
l n'ritt nott h e but
think
enl it
was so granted—as we were bound by
""vention of Paris to maintain a military
..e °I 3,000 men iu those Isiauds, and as such
({l.(.
'as so maintained by its, and at our ex-
e, he thought the House would see it was
-'Y to have such returns.
.hilt'
first return for those islands was then
tiov
(I for and negatited without a division.
heT '
to becond retina was agreed to with respect
tto "se islands, and the other two were not
. uved for.

WAYS 'AND AIEANS.
Air. BR
ooDEN brought up the Report of the
3;
eso nnuittee of Ways and Means. Tie first three
end lutions were read a first and second time,
"geed to.
Ott the question being put on the Resolution
fur the additi.nal Malt. Duty,
Lord MILTON said he bad last night, in the
eui •
tinttee, Proposed, that instead of the new
31at3/ of 2s. 10(i. a duty only of Is. 4d. be int-
He was anxious to take the sense of the
ouse on this subject, bit: did not mean to enter
sl'to any discussion., except merely to guard him-
elf from
Pb being supposed to object to this tax,
lan allSe it would lay an additional pressure on the
2ified interest, hut because it would afFect the
tver orders. The.higher Ot tiers sere those who
\v-tlght to sustain the burden, and his• objection
that the burden seas not there placed.
BitouGnAm said, he was as, anxious as his
nble
lrie" t() tt"iti n b
discusiio on this iu-
rras no b
ject' t ,ca his tteopinion ris to its impottance
r "fcred, but becanse. anolLer most important
). 'ote--the Foreign bilist.nivnt n:11, stood for
';sct, ;, ,
1218-1" hi" night. Tiik. Hon. iN,Jenthcr con-
tu.l,l4" oy mainti taining that Ge ii,!A• duty upon incl.
"-void ; ,
ttie ili4t instnce, on the grower,

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itnti in the nest (in the rimistit'Ae.r. The landed
interest at large would be great 'sufferers by the
measure ; and the grower of barley would be
much more affected by it than what he had expe-
rienced from any tax fur several years.

Lord Mt LToN persisted in his opposition.
The Res()lutiOu for 2s. 6d. was then put and
carried.

The next Resolution was that for one shilling
duty on all malt, COMlneneing from the sth of
July.
Mr. CALvartT assured the Hausa that this new
duty would ruin all the malrsters in the country.
They would not only be losers to the amount of
174. 6(1. per quarter, hut lose also the expellee ot
convertint; the barley into malt. The old duty
was 9s. instead of 17s. 6i. On account of the
destructive elfeet now mentioned, he found it in-
cumbent upOu him to take the sense of the House
on the question. He also complained 'of the in-
justice done to the mAitsters by Government,
when they estimated the stock from the present

The CHANCRLLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated,
that the sable policy had been adopted when the
War Malt Duty had been established ; but, when
it- was repealed, the over-charge thus made on
the stock was returned to the n►al'stcr.

Mr. CALVERT observed, that the war duty had
at first been 165., although a!terwardi reduced to
14s. He thought that, at all events, an allowance
'ought to be wade for the trouble and eXpence of
converting the barley into malt,

• A division then f(;Ilowed, viz.:—
Ayes
Noes
Maj.rity
In the progress of the ren►siuin;; Resolutions,
several amendments were proposed by Mr. J. P.
Gtr ANT. They were all rejected ; when till the
Resolutions were separately put and agreed to ;
and a Bill or Bilk were ordered to be brought in
pursuant to the Resolutions.