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London, England, 1821-04-04 00:00:00

PARLIAMENT,

HOUSE OF LORDS, APRIL 3.
Tare JOHNSON, from the Office of the Irish
Treasury, presented certain Accounts, pursuant
to the- Order of the House., Mr. GREEN, from
the Commissioners of the Holyhead Roads, pre-
sented an account of the improvements made be-
tween Shrewsbury. and.. B.arrgor-ferry.—Lord
RearyoN preseated a Petition from Sudbury
against the Roman" Catholic Claims. His Lor:1-
"trip said he fully coincided in the sentiments -of
ERMiiNE presented two
Petitioris'front Owners and Occupiers Of Land in
Ole neighboUrhood of Horsham and Arundel,
pra'ying relief from Agricultural Distress.—The
etshop of Lb:enbar presented a Petition from the
ortifeArchdeaCoriry of Hereford against
I.l.'se•Rehiair.Catholic Claims.—The Irish Witch-
craft 'Bill isas read a third time and passed. •
.-.••••• 'CATHOLIC QUESTION:. -
aMessage was received from the Commons,
la.larei,Sir J. Neweone,attended by an unusually
age number of Members, presented the Roman
;a'Sitholic Disabinties Removal Bill. •
• 'Tr he.. Earl of Doaceonaroae, in rising to move
I.l'4ltate Bill be'read a first time, said he was
imply impressed-with a sense of the important
situation in which-he was placed by being se-
inted 14 advocate the Claims of the Roman ,Ca-
abolics iza.tfigt House. He had lately had some
ceanyameieations with some of •the first men in the
&ingdana on both sides of the question; the result
ef-:which induced -him to: believe- that in the pro-
gress of the Bill thresgh the House such material
amendrnents• would be made as would remove
every material objection that might be entertain-
ed on the part of the Catholics- to-the measure,
wittopt at,,the, same time failing, to give those
securities which every man in that House must
think the ,Protest Tit Establishment in Church
sad State had a.right, to require. Ills Lordship
concluded by moving that the Bill be read a first
• ::we' arid. ptintedea-(Hear, hear!) •
...The Earl of, LIVERPOOL did not rise. for the
pa pose of offering any opposition to the motion
of the Noble Lord. Corning before their Lord-
thips a-6 the result' of the deliberations of the
q-ther House of Parliament, it was fitting that the
Bill should receive most mature consideration ;
erd he trusted' that the discussions to which it
would give. rise would be diitinguished for the
ke,rzie mecleration which had distinguished the
da.hates on the same subject in another place.
Ffaving on former occasions taken an active part in
the discussion of this question, he felt that he ought
eel to delay to make his sentiments known with
respect to the Bill- before the House. He therefore
•r, :.s induced to state that he felt it his duty to
oppose the Bill.—(Hear !)—He particularly ob-
jected to two parts of the Bill. The first was
the, provision for the repeal of the political dis-
abilities of the , Roman Catholics, and the second
the regulation for their Ecclesiastical establish-
ments. He could not agree to grant the proposed
privileges to Roman Catholic subjects.; but even
if he were disposed to grant them, or their Lord-
ships should be of opinion that they ought to be
granted, still he should feel it his duty to object
te, die clauses in-the Bill which relate to Roman
catholic clergymen, because they would have
the effect of taking from the Bill (to which those
1•/"..0 had agreed must agree on the principle that
there was not that danger to be apprehended
from It which he had anticipated) all appearance
trace. He thought the clauses to which he
ai:eded were most impolitic, and would defeat
ti-e 2: object of those individuals who had intro-
da:ced the present Bill, He had taken the liber-
ty- to throw out.. these observations as an indi-
vdual who had been accustomed to take an active
peel in the discussion of the subject before the
house.

The Earl pf D.ONOUGHMORE said,.that with res-
pect to one of the points alluded to by the Noble
Earl, he felt exactly as he (Lord Liverpool) did;
bfit he was sorry the Noble Earl did not -agree
with him in the general principle of the Bill.—
Lid the .Romatt Catholics entertain. sentiments
'Opesed•to the principles of the •Constitution, he
s;:culd object to grant them theproposethrelief ;.
wvt he was convinced they were as loyal subjects
as the members of any other persuasion. The
gc,ble Lord proceeded tO allude,.- in terms of
pr se, to the manner 'in-which the other House'
met the wishes of the friends of the Catholics,
azd,obserited th at if the Catholics were not grate-
:4t nor the conduct ref-Ifie -.Protestants, who had
iatriACed many prejudices In their behalf,- they
elid‘not deserve the support which they had .re.
cmiiredliorn-thie Parliament. :

:The: Lb RD CILINCTZ LI,O ft said he ought to. apo-
P/Kize to the---HOuse for. presuming to trouble
.tn..arn-at that time' with any observations, eit-en on
Ao•interestinff -a,subjec..t: The oplitions of some
at MS. Nabl:Friends, and the declaration of the
.6...4,.',H0u-se,,with respect to this Till, would be
sufficient 'to' ioduee • him to consider the.subject
vvith- :the grcatest attention. -Their Lords-hips
imeta the Opiniong ultichlhe had formerly enter-
tl:ired on the pres‹-nt queStiob, and he felt that,
}:ad any circurnsttace - arisen -to cause him•to
&:-..ange- those opiniansv he should act inconsistent-,
y in.not:avowing: such 'change: -But he fyit him-
seit called upon-to declare, upon the fullest,eon-,
victlOu; that the- great •interests7,bf the toubtry
•watid not perMit ' of, • any alteiltion• in the laves
•airetting'the Reman•Cathotics.- He worvid: state
:iris objections to-the 'proposed Bill ,fully on the'
-day appointed for.. OM ~second-,reading. At
.preSent he should--Irrilytobsertethat it-teas itn.;
•pozsible••to • retencife 'the !proVisionsArf :the Bill
with the -principles on'Twhictezit vas t ,Bite.ea, .
and .that :it' was itnpOssible lie oGuicl bivt't~i cm ~
sQn-t. to it, consistently. with• his. dirty to•the7-prib-
lic,'• under althost any • mcidificzstion.- The' Ain •
was: then head a first time., • '•-•••• • -:••
• the, Earl of • DOWO udinroult :gave' n.otice-t-hato
he wcn:d• on- Tuesday' neit,tho-ve- pre; second-read..
--=Adjourned'. • . , .