The Sun.
London, England, 1817-06-20 00:00:00

' as Allies Of Goviltinsetst in else maisosesanee 410.
ciil oseter.-s-(:lear, hear !) such t5.01,,_
ments bveie made use of, it was impossible that
any man's property or person could be safe; and
the misdeeds of one of these miscreants, whose
conduct had lately been brought to light, probed
hut too plainly the truth of what be asserted.—
Under these circumstances, and hearing that
the Noble Lord had attempted to defend the
conduct of such a man as Thomas Reynolds, of
lVelbeck-street, be should he glad to know of Mi-
nisters,
.whether those spies had their authority
for making use of the names of individuals
(Loud cries of Hear, hear !)—A transaction of
this sort bad occurred, its regard to which the
state of the times rendered it necessary for him to
vindicate his own character, however contemptible
and unworthy of notice the individuals might
otherwise he. It did appear then that Oliver, the
fellow of Reynolds, had gone about the country
introducing himself with Sir F. Burilett's compli-
ments. After what had already come out, it was
impossible to say how far this man might be au-
[lonized by, or associated with, Government.---
It so, the infamy of such transactions was mutual
on the employer and the employed ; or rather the
Government that could employ such Agents, the
terror, scourge, and pest of society, Was even
more culpable than the wretched Agents them-
selves ; and if universal justice ruled the Bill, the
Noble Lord would be tried with his creatures,
Castle and Oliver, for their conspiracies against
the subject of this Kingdom —(Hear, hear !).--lf
the employers of these men had any feeling,
nr conscience, they would have atomised the as-
sistance of such unworthy allies; for they might
beforehand have been sore that such agents would
go beyond their instructions, because it was their
obvious interest to du so ; it they did not pro-
mute treason.. their employment Was at an end.—
(Hear, heat':!)---A Jssry of able, independent, and
honest men, had shown their sense of the infa.
molts purposes for which those spies had been em-
ployed.
The SPEAKER rose to miler.--He had listened to
hear if the Honourable Baronet meant to make a
motion or ask a question ; and, conceiving, at ail
events, that the matter was one in which the Ho-
nourable Baronet was personally concerned, be
had refrained, perhaps longer than he ought to
have dope, in reminding the 11011. Baronet that
he st as
sproceeding to souse length without any
motion before the House. If the Hueourable
Baronet's object was to ask a question, be put it
to his candour whether he had not transgressed
all reasonable bounds tor such a purpose.
Sir F. 110 icvtcTT thanked the Speaker for the
vet 1r 11,Vidg0111C ilidltlWE In which he had set him
sight; but thought himseit not wholly inexcusa-
ble on such a subject, and so closelysconcerned
as
he telt isiteselt.. The question he toss! to ask the
Noble Lord was, whether Oliver had the autho-
rity of Government for making ti.,e of his name ?
Lord CASTLEREAGH . replio i, that if the Hon.
Baronet's name hats been Ii an improper use
of, -hr iniO!t aitiibnie it to wiser grounds than
she commands •ot sis Majesty's Ministers. He
wits 1'1;34 to justity the ttanslctinns that had
taken place, so far as hi• Noble Fiiend, the be-
(Acta+ y ut State for the floase Deoaitment , was
concerned awl he as ell %tit) that that Noble
1.40:11 11 (Wit' never sh,l.e the roblic eonfidenc.o
th..t hid pi, .r.tql in his I,4‘als. If the peace.
t► intik idnals bait bed 1w treason in the
country.- none coq'd lament it mitre deelily than.
; hitsseits! bits :be 'humid not be deterred by any
thing the floomsrable ftwonet could say Gout
taking atertseres :0 enstieo the peace Mille country,
though those mrasnres might disturb the peace of
traitors, or eves, involve the Hots. Baronet's name.
Mr. liaouonam asked, ii'!, lli r, in consequence,
, nt .what bad passed in that House, Isis Miesty's
Ministers bed taken the ~soul steps with a view
to bring the person employed in these criminal
transactions to condign punishment, shook, the
atrocit it's alleged against him turn out to be true?
Lord CASTLEREAGH assuted the House that Isis
Noble Friend had 'sever authorised any act blame-
able in itself ; and if any improper conduct in the
party alluded to, or any other, tell with:n his no-
lice. it would meet with due reprebeesion.
Here the conversation ended.
MODUS OF TITHES.
Mr. CUSWEN, alter disclaiming the least in-
tention of infringing on the property of the
Church, anti stating that Isla object was to put an
end to that extensive litigation, which was not
more Hesitant; to the parties engaged in it, than
to the interests of general morality and
detailed at considerable length the inconvenience
which resulted Irons the existing state things, by
which Church property was 'placed its a 01101011
so different from that of other property, the title
to it rendered so much more difficult of proof, anti
the contested claims to it made the subject of the
decision of the Court of Equity, inttcasl al ft Jury ;
and instanced Several eases in support of his argu-
ment. The Hots. Gentlemso concluded by ewe-
r ing for leave to ining in a Bill to Amend the tows
respecting Modessea, Compositions, and Bump-
tinn-, for Tithes.
Sir W. Sc ,TT would not resist the motion for
the int,,nlnetion of the Bill, but nlthotosh Ise
coincided in notch of what had Sailers from the
Hon. Gentleman, he should hr sorry that it should
go forth to the public, that he could ultimately
agree to the great innovation which the Bill pro-
posed to make. ,
Sir S. Rommess supported the 13111, although he
feared it was too late in the Session to give an op-
portunity sufficiently to discuss so important a
subject,. - tie eonfr used all the statements of the
Hon. Mover with respect to the inconveniences of
the present law, and particularly the circumstance
that long possession, which strengthened all Other
property, weakened church property ; since, in-
stead of a prescriptive title being obtained in 60
years, it was necessary to go hack-600 years, to
the reign of Richard 1. in order to establish a
claim. Adverting to the tedious litigations .to
which the uncertain tenure of this property at
present gave rise, he mentioned the case of
clergyman with 12 children, whom he' took the
liberty of advising, not-, with such a family, to in-
cur the risk of a Chancery suit, anti who told him
in, reply, that circumstanced es he Was, he should -
never have thought of it ; but that he bad corn- -
menced the resew when he was a bacheltar.
Mr. LocKtuatT, with the utmost deference to