The Sun.
London, England, 1845-06-13 00:00:00

GROUP LL.

SOUTH-WESTERN RAILWAY EXTENSION.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)

After having gone through all the clauses of the Bill, it was or-
dered to be reported, and the Committee adjourned to next Mon.
day week. .

GROUP P.
SOUTR WALES RAILWAY.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)

In answer to questit;.‘ from the CHAIRMAN,
Mr. Brunel stated that, the crossing of the river at a point
lower down than Hock Crib had been contemplated, but a bridge
of one mile and a half in length would be required, and a large
extra expense would be incurred ; and the distance from London
by Gloucester would be increased fifteen miles. _ .

Mr. LAW cross-examined Mr. Brunel, for the purpose of showing
that the estimates of the line were inadequate for its construction.
He had omitted to mention that a tunnel was intended to be
made at a point between Carmarthen and Kidwelly of 1,463 yards
in length. It was not elicited that the estimates had been under-
calculated.

Sir W. RIDDLE then cross examined Mr. Brunel on behalf of
Colonel Lewis, to show that his estate of St. Pierre would be con-
siderably interfered with and depreciated by tie passage of the pro.
posed line. It appeared that the course of the line could not
be advantageously altered from its present route.
Mr. Cooke, on behalf of the Stroud Canal Company, Mr.
Caubin, for the Severn and Wye Railway Company, and Mr.
Davis, agent for Sir T. C. Bovey, and the Rev. Mr. Jones also
cross-examined Mr. Brunel, but the general features of his tes-
timony remained unaltered.
At the close of the examination of the last witness it was an.
nouneed that the Speaker was at prayers, and the Committee ad.
journed till twelve o'clock tomorrow.

GROUP PP.
WEAR VALLEY RAILWAY.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)

Mr. TALBOT, on behalf of the promoters of the above line, stated
the case at great length. The object of the line was to connect the
Wear Valley in the westward with the sea in the eastward, and to
afford an outlet for the great wealth and productions of a district
which was at present completely shut in, from having no suitable
means of communication with the sea. The proposed line was
projected for a long time and was selected by Mr. George Stephenson,
who was called the father of the English railways. This
eminent engineer considered that the proposed line was
the best which could be selected for the development of the re-
sources of the country. The Learned Counsel then referred to the
sort of traffic which would be accommodated—iron, tin, zinc, cop-
per, lead, stone, flagging slates, fluor-spar, limestone, &C. It was
10i miles in length, and there was a branch of a mile and a quarter,
The whole cost of the line would be only 82,0001. After alluding
to the opposition to the line, the Learned Counsel said he would
not take up their time any longer, but proceed to call witnesses to
prove the statements he had made.
Mr. J. Dolphin was then examined by Mr. Buss—Lived near
Weardale. Was a coal-owner and proprietor of lead mines. He
supplied the population of Darlington for a long time with coal.
On an average, the small families consumed eight tons yearly. The
population was about 4,000. There were extensive lead
mines and smiths'-works in that district, also limestone quarries,
and various other works which required an immense quantity of
coal. The witness then deposed to the general traffic of goods and
passengers, and considered that the proposed line would confer
great advantages on the district generally.
Mr. Thomas Todd, examined by Mr. DENISON—Lived in the
parish of Stanhope. There were forty-seven smiths in that and
the adjoining parish, who consumed, on an average, fifty-three
tons of coal weekly. The cost of the carriage of this coal was ss.
per ton. He heard the evidence of the last witness with regard to
the rates, distance, and time of the carriage of goods by the pre-
sent and proposed modes of conveyance, and concurred in
the accuracy of those details. Sent himself 1,500 tons
of lime weekly for agricultural and other purposes into
the adjoining counties by carts. The proposed line would be a
much cheaper, more rapid, and desirable communication; and he
considers it would greatly benefit the trade of the country, and
open up its resources.
The two last witnesses were cross-examined by Mr. Hill, to
prove that the Stanhope and Tyne existing railway accommodated
a large portion of the traffic which was claimed for the proposed

line.
Mr. Emerson Muskin was then examined by Mr. Buss, and
gave evidence of a similar tendency. He heard the evidence of
the two last witnesses, and agreed with them in the statements they
had made.
This witness was cross.examined by Mr. HILL with respect to
the tunnel and Black Boy incline, with a view to prove that it
was impossible to form a continuous line of railway.
The CHAIRMAN here said that he did not see any use in calling
further evidence on the traffic. He wished the counsel and pro-
moters to direct their attention to the engineering points referred to
by opposing counsel.
Mr. John Harris, civil engineer, was then called, but it being
now within a few minutes of four o'clock, the Committee ad.
journed till 12 o'clock to-morrow.

GROUP X.
CAMBRIDGE AND LINCOLN RAILWAY.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)

Earl Fitzwilliam had directed his attention to the compa-
rative merits of the London and York, and the Cambridge and
Liverpool projects. Many years ago he had had his attention di.
rweictthe d
theto th e expediency
north,
(Here the Noble Earl's answer
was rendered somewhat inaudible by the noise created by the chip-
ping of blocks of stone, hammers, mallets, chisels, &c., in the hands
of the workmen employed at that portion of the new Houses of
through Cambridge of a line of communication by railway.
Parliament close to the Committee-room. The noise was kept up
most perseveringly during the whole time the Noble Lord was
under examination, with more or less pertinacity, the work-
men having just returned from dinner, and was varied
only by the transition from one description of labour to
another, such as the cessation of the mallet or the chisel,
and the resuming of the grating and very unpleasant noise of
stone-sawing. However, his Lordship continued to speak on.)
But one question had been put to him, and his answer to it was
one of most protracted duration. The substance of it was to the
effect that he was in favour of the Cambridge and Lincoln project,
because it would afford more facilities for the transit of every de-
scription of goods and merchandise through the centre of the
county of Lincoln than the London and York line. He would have
a feeling of extreme jealousy in regard to the formation of the
loop line, though he had very little property indeed in Lincoln-
shire, but he did not think it would be useful; and he assumed
the gap the absence of its formation would leave would be other.
wise and n ore usefully filled up. When his Lordship had con-
cluded his long answer, the Learned Counsel said he did not think
it necessary to put a second question to his Lordship.
In cross-examination he said be should expect that a branch
would be made to Boston from Cambridge. He did not mean to
say that in fifty, or forty, or thirty, or twenty, or even ten years
hence the requirements of the country may not be such as to
render the London and York line necessary, particularly when he
recollected that the population of this country was increasing at the
rate of 2.50,000 a.year. Was aware that the intermediate traffic
was ten times that of the through traffic.
DPrYneHas been forty years connected with the Cam-
bridge
University,and represented the town in three Parliaments.
Is of opinion that if this line should be made, a greater number of
students would pass up and down than now. Cambridge was a
sort of emporium for the whole of the eurrounding.district. Both
lines traversed his property.
To Mr. TRIPP—Knows Chesterton and Coltsman's Common.
Does not know the exact locality of the crossing at Chesterton.
Could not see how it would interfere to the inconvenience of the
people of that town more than any other
Mr. Charles Finch, ironmonger and fuunder, had resided at Cam-
bridge all his life. The feeling of the trade of that town was quite
in W,our of this line. Manufactures between 400 and 500 tons of
iroi; a year, which he gets from Birmingham, Staffordshire, York-