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London, England, 1828-02-01 00:00:00

CORN LAWS.

On the motion of Earl. STANHOPE, several re•
turns connected with the quantities of Corn import.
ed and warehoused during the last year, were ordered

Earl DUDLEY laid on the table the several Pa.
pees and Treaties alluded to in his Majesty's speech

- EREACH OF PRIVILEGE.

The LORD CHANCELLOR. informed the
House, that a complaint had been made to him of a
breach of privilege committed by the arrest, by a
Sheriff's Officer, of Lord Haywarden, an Irish
Peer. Lord Haywarden was then in attendance,
and the Noble and Learned Lord moved that he may
be called in to state the subject of hi:; complaint.
This motion having been agreed to,
Lord HAYWARDEN entered the House, and
having been sworn by one of the Clerks, stated, in
answer to questions put by the Lord Chancellor
" On the 15th of September last I was arrested.
A parson called at about ten o'clock in the
morning, and desired to speak with me. He was
shown into the drawing-room where I lived. He
told me he had come there on a very unpleasant bu-
sinesa of Lord Haywarden. I said, " I am Lord
Haywarden ;" then said he, " I arrest you in the
King'; name.

The Earl of SHAFTESBURY then mom' that
strangers should withdraw.

The House was then cleared—end immediately
after Lord Haywarden't.4 bubiness was disposed of
the House adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, JANUARY 31.

The SPEAKER took the Chair this day precisely-
at four o'clock, and the HOU3C proceeded to business.

The Hon. J", BOYLE elected for the county of
Cork. in the room of Lord Enni‘rnore, deceased,
took the oaths and his seat.

A new Writ was moved for Dover, vacant by Mr.
B. Wilbraham being called to the Rouse of Lords.

Mr. CLINTON presented a petition from the
Imperial Gas Company, for leave to bring in a Bill
to amend the former Acts.—Laid on the table.

Mr. DUNCOAIBE presented a petition from a
parish in Yorkshire, against the burning of Ilindoo
Widows.--Laid on the table.

Mr. GEO. BANKES gave notice that, on Mon-
day next, he would move for leave to bring in a Bill
to relieve the Roman Catholics from the double
assessment of the Land Tax.

On the motion of Mr. Alderman WOOD, ac-
counts were ordered to be laid on the table of the
number of barrels of ale and beer brewed in England,
Scotland, and Wales, from sth Jan. 1827 to sth
Jan. 1828.

Mr. DENISON presented a petition from a
parish in Surrey for the revision of the Poor Laws.
Mr. SPRING RICE moved for returns of the
sums granted by the Imperial Parliament for the
promotion of education, and the encouragement of
agriculture in Ireland.

Mr. C. JENKINSON having brought up the
Report of the Address,
Mr. BROWNLOW said, he was anxious to be al-
lowed shortly to explain the feelings which influenced
his conduct upon this subject—subject, however, to
the explanation which had been offered by the Noble
Lord to the objectionable part of the King's Speech,
without which explanation the King's Speech
would have been received with infinite surprise and
regret throughout the country—(Hear, hear)—but
that explanation, scanty as it was, was in some mea-
sure a retraction of the feeling which his Majesty's
Ministers would be supposed to have entertained
when they advised his Majesty to call that brilliant
naval achievement an untoward event. He was ready
to fall in with the unanimity of this House upon
the King's Speech, and afrer that 'explanation he
was willing to believe that Ministers felt that which
was his (Mr. Brownlow's) firm conviction, that' the
conduct of Sir Edward Cocirinz,ion was as marked
by prudence and wisdom previous to the battle,
as it was afterwards by the distinguished bravery,
displayed by him i'; executing the task entrusted to
his care. He was of opinion, and what was of
much mom consettirene, the naval men of this country
were of opinion, that there neverWasran achievement
of the British arms executed with -tnore skill and
gallantry than the battle of Navarin, and that of
elf the naval achievements of this country, there
was not one which redounded more to the credit,
the skill, and the valour of the framer, than that which
had been described in such unfair language in the
communication from the Throne. He was as hostile
as any Hon. Member of that House to an undue
interference with the affairs of other countries. This
country had had enough of it for the last thirty
years, but it was rather strange • to find those,
or rather the remnant of those, who bad for the last
quarter of a century been the firm,,. supporters of
interference of all kinds—of the interference of
Austria with the affairs Naplbs----of France
with the • affairs of Spain--,whist had looked
with indifference on the ,spoliation of Genoa and
of Saxony, now for the first time to object to
interference, when that interference was in be-
half of Greece. In Finanee,• and in the
other affairs of independent States; he was not one
to go beyond, in,busy meddling, that place. which
Providence had allotted to this country. But it
was one thing heedlessly to interfere in the affairs of
other Countries, arid another thing to stand by
and' witness with cold indifference the shedding of

human blood. He did say that this Treaty
was dictated by feelings of humanity, arid that
no man who had these feeling,. in his breast,
or could see the injury that was done to the
commerce of neutral nations by the contest
which had so long subsisted in the East, would
say that it was an undue interference with the
rights of other natious. 'l' he Objects of. the Treaty
were plain ; no diploniacy—no overtricking of
other nations called upon us to sign that Treaty,
which has been followed with such brilliant results.
He could understand men objecting to this Treaty
and
wise from experience, saying we have had
enough to do with meddling ‘vith the affairs orothe,
States, and we ought now to stay at home, and to
mind our own business. Such men wouldhe jmAified
in saying so, but he could not understand men vvho
say we will sign Treaties aid' France and Russia, we
will send ships into the Mediterranean, but the Turks
and the Greeks flinty still go on, as if a British ship
had never entered that sea, and we will do nothing
when the matter comes to a pinch. That he looked
upon as foolish conduct and mere braggadocio. He
thought England, France, and Russia, but Eng-
land, for which he was more particularly inte-
rested, would, if after having put her finger
to the Treaty, she had shrunk back from the con-
sequences, have covered herself with disgrace. He
thought false feelings had been excited on this sub-
ject. It bad been said that Turkish blood has been
shed and Turkish vessels burnt. Now, he was as
sorry as those persons who held such language
could be, for what necessity compelled this country
to do. Those persons who held such language,
and had such a horror of the shedding of human
blood, yet took no notice of that warfare which
had for the last six years been raging in the East of
Europe—of that pele-nielc butchery which had for
its object the extermination of the Greek race. He
considered the spirit of that Treaty consistent with
the laws of nations : with the true farce of independ-
enee, and particularly with the British • Statesman-
like policy, and he not only approved of that
Treaty, but of the glorious battle of Nava-
rin, which was one of its consequences.—
(Cheers.) For courtesy, negoclation had been tried
in rain, and the time bad arrived when necessity
took place of deference, when force had conquered
friendship, and when deference and reason failed to
command.—(Cheers.)—Having said so much on
that part of the King's Speech, he could not conclude
without expressing his regret,not only his regret, but
his disappointment, that that Speech contained not a
single word in allusion to that part of the country
which sent him to that House. He was wholly
at a loss to account for the omission of that country
in his Majesty's speech. Could Ministers be igno-
rant of the state of Ireland? could they be ignorant
that two-thirds of its population were unemployed,
with the exception of such casual employment as
the spring and harvest afforded? Did Ministers
know, that in addition to the discontent produced
by such want of employment, a new cause of excite-
r:rein -exiited irk the-pizetice- ofdepapviatietrthat -way

-
rapidly going on, and the thousands who were sepli
rated from their native land had nothing but death or
starvation in prospect '? Did they know that in that
country a short time ago thirteen hundred parishes
were tho'uilit together by one and the same impulse
for the recovery of their civil and religious
rights ? The population of Ireland was never
in such a state of discontent as at the present,
moment, and he was in hopes that when some
interest was taken in the situation of Christians of
other countries, some attention would have been
paid to the condition of Roman Catholic Chris-
tians, his unfortunate countrymen. If he were
asked did he place confidence in his Majesty's
Ministers, his answer would be, that he placed
confidence in them as private gentlemen, and
that he believed them to be men of private
honoar and integrity, and that he placed con-
fidence in the Duke of Wellington as a man,
and that he knew no man under whom he
would rather serve than that Noble Lord, if he
(Mr. Brownlow) could bring that Noble Lord to
think as he did on an important question, but
when he found that that Noble Lord had pledged
himself against the question, he (Mr. B.) wouki
say, that sinless he could consent to make a hum-
bug of that question, he could not support the
Administration-. Was it to be said that Hon. Mem-
bers might do as they liked upon that question, and
yet support the Administration upon all others : he
for one could not do so.—(The Hon. Member con-
cluded amidst loud cheers.)

Lord MORPETH, after the explanation given
by the Noble Secretary at War, as to the words
" untoward event," as applied to the battle of Na-
varin, and after two days' consideration of that ex-
planation, could not be satisfied unless a dis-
tinct disclaiming were given, that it was not
intended to impute blame to the Minister who
signed the Treaty, or the gallant Admiral who
fought the battle. He thought the words the most
ill-selected, ungracious, and shabby, that the Eng.
lish language could supply..
Sir GEORGE WARRENDER bore testimony
to the great merits of the gallant officer, Sir E. Co-
drington. He remarked that it could not but be a
matter of pride and congratulation with the friends
of that Gallant Officer, that this House unanimously
agreed that hiS conduct deserved not the slightest
censure. He (Sir George Warrender) had long had
the honour of being acquainted with that Gallant
Officer, and it was a great satisfaction to him to have
this opportunity of giving expression to his feelings
regarding that distinguished officer's conduct. He
expressed nothing but the sentiments of all British
officers on the subject. (Cheers.) He regretted the
language employed by Ministers in reference to the
battle of Navarin, He was glad, however, to have
heard the explanation which had been g
language.--(Hear.)
Mr. HOBHOUSE said it was not bis intention
to apply himself to the topics adverted to in the
Addresr. He rose rather for the rm.'s! of asking
the Noble Lord Pahrierston. who was the only re-
presentative: of " King Arthur's Cruwn" present,
in the first instance, Whether it was the intention
of his Majesty's Ministers to propose the
thanks of this ' House to Sir Edwardiven ofthat
Co-
drington; ,and next, whether it was their inten-
tion
oeunie layilt connected
onthe
table
of this House the papers and
dwith the battle of Navarin, and
to
more particularly the report which he (Mr. Hob=
house) understood had been drawn up by the gallant

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ofteer, Sir John Gore, Wholiad been sent out them
for the express purpose of inquiring into that &ow-
action ? That gallant officer lryl rettrrevd-,---his had
SCCII Sir Edward Codrington, and he had of cour,-3
made minute inquiries into the details connected
with the battle of Navarin. He (Mr. liolohoute)
therefore conceived that it would be extremely tatis-
factory to have his report laid before them.
Mr. DUNCOMBE rose to bear his testimony
to the merits of Sir Edward Codrington. He (Mr,
Duncombe) did not think the expression ured in
reference to the battle of Navariii at all intended to
impute censure to the Ministers who had signed the
treaty of the Gtb of July. Were it, intended to con,,
vey such a meaning, it was plain that one of those
Ministers, who now forms a part of the preient Ad -
ministration, would never have given hi, consent t
the use of such an expression. He (Mu. Duncombe)
nevertheless did not refrain from expressing
opinion that the battle of Nararin was an unfortunAe,
and au untoward event.

Mr. SPRING RICE said, he understood it wa4
generally rumoured and believed, that some measure
%%as in preparation for the pacification of Ireland,
and as that measure would shortly come before the
House, he would not now anticipate what it wfis
tended to effect. The bill passed three yews ago,
for the purpose of putting down the Catholic
Association, was now nearly expired, and La
wished to Lnow whether it was intended to renew
it. He took it for granted that there was ;no suds
intention, a:; the subject was not referred to in the
King's Speech. He hoped the Government had
gathered more Is isdom from experience, than to
desire to renew this obnoxious Act. It had been
tried and had totally failed of effect. In cotielusio:„
he hoped that he should find the present Gelvernment
ready to introduce a Corn Bill that would do justice to
both parties, and to support a system of free trade.—
(Cheers.)—lf the Ministry pursuad this course I2e
(Mr. Spring Rice) would support them, whatever
side of the House he should sit at.

Lord PALMERSTON said that before he prJ-
ceeded to reply to the questions put to him frorn
the other side, in reference to what had fallen
from the Noble Lord, he might be allowed to repeat
the explanation he had given on a former night of
passage in his Majesty's speech,
to the battle of Navarin. That passage rot
intended to reflect the slightest censure on our brave
navy, oron the Admiral who commanded in the action.
That particular collision was quite " unexpectc-cl,"
and therefore it was incumbent on Cite King to say
that it was so; and it AVa. " untoward," inastnuck
as it was calculated to obstruct and throw new
,fifficulties in the tray of the negociation then
going on. In that sense it was impossible to deny
that the event was " untoward," but not so far as
related to the character of the achievernent„—nct so
; fat as related to the glory of arms. With reference
to these, the term was undoubtedly inapplicable, and
it was quite impossible to apply it for such a pur-
pose. (Hear.) It had been asked whether it was
intended to move the thanks of the House to
Admiral Codrington and his brave associates in
arms ; but he (Lord P.) believed it was not unit::
to move a vote of thanks to our troops or Navy,
except in cases where they had been engaged in a
successful action with an enemy at war with 11F--
in the present can the action was with the
fleet of an ally, with whom we were then
engaged in air amicable negociation. The
nourable Member for Westminster (Mr. 1-lobhouse)
had inquired whether it wa4 the intention of his
Ninititers Act..lay...on. the tale. certain

papers ,esiennected with the negotiations that had
taken place between 11,1e._,Qttomait Turte and
his Majesty's Ministes
the Allied Powers, but, lie _(Lord Paltraiston)
considered that as negociat.ions were still can
ilg on
ttiot with 7-
aeecdc
the t
oPtohreteKish of the Hon. Member
for Westminster to lay the documents .in question
before the House. As far as Sir E. Codriugton.
could
was concerned no papers were necessary, as his clia,
ratter was unimpcached. The Hon. Member fog
Limerick (Mr. Spring Rice) inquired whethe: iC
was intended to renew the Act for putting down.
the Catholic Association ; un that point he
believed the government which had teen so lately

formed had come to no decision. However,

the act in question did not expire until the
end of the Session, and therefore did nut pre
so much CM the attention of his Majesty's Mini=
sters- as many other questions.—(lleac, hear.)--
The Hon. Member for Armagh (Mr. Brownlow)
had referred to the subject nearest his heart—thn
Mate of Ireland—and expressed his fears that the
condition of that country would not be improved
under the present Administration. The con-
tinuance of his Hon. Friend who filled the office of
Secretary fur Ireland (Mr. Lamb) in that office,
in which he had given such general satisfactioe
(hear, hear), was a sufficient pledge that the present
Ministry were resolved to continue and promote a
conciliatory system in that country. Nothing pe-
euliar had occurred in Ireland since the last
Session, and therefore that country was not particus
larly alluded to in his Majesty's Speech; " but the
state of Ireland, he was sure, would enjoy a Ilia
neutrality on the
share of the attention of his Majesty's Govern/neut.
As to the Catholic question, the Hon. Member for
Artnagh should recollect that the Members of the
Cabinet were nearly equally divided on that sub.
ject, and if they had not been so, the question would
,btneYtillif he (Lord
moreopetinla.n
utdievrasthenolattne
Palmerston) believed that there w 45 not a determl,
nation to adopt a system of perfect
question of Catholic Emanription on the part of the
Gorerntnent, for his ervn Pan he would not
continue a Member of the Government.—(Hear,)
Under these cireutosesnees, he thought Honourable
no tenon to express so much want of
Members had
ConAdence in the present 31inistry on the affairs of
especially on c
to Catholic Question....
Ireland, and
( Hear, hear.)
Mr. o°l3ll°T-Ile—As the Noble Lord says
it is not the intention of his Majesty's Government
olkviln%Ctrayb;inet clue

to propoGa a vote of thanks to Admiral Codrington,
'pow give notice, that on the 14th of February
shall my,self introduce such a motion.—:(Hear.)-"'A'

to a precedent, there is a case in point, which it is
strange the present Administration should have over-
looked,—l mean that of the vote of thanks to Sir
Arthur Wellesley, the present Duke of Wellington,
for Lis victory at Copenhagen,---* state with which
we were at the time of the battle in friendly alliance."

—(S
ir M. W. RIDLEY said that he did not mean
to find fault with the use of the term " untoward"
!n the King's speech, more particularly after tha
explanation which had been given of its meaning.—
He thought die Government were justified in their
application of the term upon its fair and reasonable
coustrUction:•He would not art this moment question
the policy which had led to the battle of Navarin
the time would arrive when the principle of that
Treaty must-be discussed. If it were adopted, then

they ought.to do the Admiral justice who had enforced

it. For that Admiral, he could say that he was
most anxious to have his whole conduct inquired
into ; there was no part of it that he was not de-
sir us to lay before the public. But there was a
great distinction to be drawn between not cen-
suring an officer and praising him. A (-swim] re-
specting the latter might be justifiable until the
Treaty itself became fully discussed. It would
be time enough on the 14th of February to enter
upon that topic.. As to the formation of this Ad-
rniniitration, he would accede to the proposal which
had been made,—namely, to judge of them by their acts :
and he -had no reason, from any thing which be saw at
-present of their construction, to doubt of their good inten-
tions; nor did be believe the condition of Ireland would
.be overlooked by them. Changes might possibly have
taken place in the opinions of some personages upon the
Catholic Question,•and if they bad, the uounfry would, he
bad no-doubt, have the benefit of them. They had iu one
of the lion. Members who had spoken this evening (Mn
Browniow), one of the brightest and purest instances of
such a change of opinion, and an upright man would

-always avow such an alteration when it became the deli-
berate conviction of his mind.—(Hear.)—That great

question had gained ground in public opinion: the more it
was dizpassionately canvassed, and listened to by the people
or tills country, the greater support it would acquire. It
irvould be in Vain to cemider Ireland as a separate country ;
it war, as well entitled to notice as the state of the manu-
factures and commerce of the kingdom could be thought to
to be, and there could be no greater mistake than to ima-
gine that separate interests could be permanently upheld in
the two parts of the kingdom.—(llear.)
Lord NORNANBY said that if the Government pro-
posed measures beneficial to the -.country those measures
should have his. support, But this intention should not
induce him to give. his confidence, composed as the present
,vas. - lie. coutessed that, .looking at the .existing state
things, lie thought the
,present_Governmeut held out
'he least prufvcct of tranquillity to Irclaud.--(Hear.)—
Tr-It thoup:nt nothing of the. votes of the Cabinet
Ming nearly equal un the Catholic Question, when he
recol'.ected that 'the' jiightl Ilonourable Ciznileman who,
lea underkok 'vas 'to lead in tine ItOuse,. had for-
nterlY resigned;beauie n-ben lb': Canning became Premier
he sitirr.thi -•Gtvcrinuent could not
,he neutral .on the
Catholic ilestion.: h e recellectedalso.thatof two Noble
Lords who Varrt4eii-Offiee -Under- the present Ministry;
fine had declared place; that-lie considered the Ca--
tholic Question was not a question of great importance;
4na the other-...N0b1e Leal. thought that question might be
postponed., :ale fri,nida Abe:question could not expect
much- from .tlirsupport of,Alnise -,Noble- Lords- in. the
Cabinet. .. L ' • -•

11r. TAlLofrapproNiettof -the-use ofthe word
"•tnatowaid "as applicable _..0. the • battle Diavarin. As
to the iiindtict of tht Gallant lAdmirifengaged in it, his
talent and-deporttnent-ctittdj nOt be undervalued or-denied.
Gtill he questioned the peliegio.f.lhe-extlarinticke which he
'the frosty itself ;,'and-- he quite agreed
in thepropriety vilhe phi emptoyed to 'deSignate the
event. Without he -; he,..htnertonlplete. explanation of the
ground of this have big support..
He hoped ax trustzdineverthelett; that peace-would still
be pt.eserviti with_ the Porte,-:atidttlat the_couseritiences of
.a4ti tl.#,appened:woultnot linate.a6 fatal..as: Rollie had
predicted. :Let thetn thcsitte: in what. they were
placed %:;.itit regard b then• old ally:at:the...Perte,:pthen let
them look at the.PtAkisa-witich.they'la.dvlaued Abe policy
that Rusdt had fora long time been anipusly-pressing in
the east, tilt! coupled l e i e with the 'vieu's of France;
and then let them pihge- over'lhe'comeqiiine.6 of su(h an
untowa "7,battle. 'He was, in -Ithe =ampulla: when the
paws
arzived,,wl4o4.le,y,:„ 1,4 oth.tr
the most .itixtomi-,fels.tvere exprvsisear of tl,l putplt.,of buth
an event; Was tilere` one' naceilibtir either the "last or
present Cabinet who:nisi snot "ittotinded -when iteleard of
this battle? • •

, . .
Lord,EVSTO:i: eamegeljaie:viobation,of. the con-
duct of the.gallaait AdmirA4iithe .11.41-Jif Nayarin, and''
lamented that the Goveiiintagt did-*Ciet-inteid-ta-oliginatis=
;a vote of - thaidis'-to' -irlFiht,ti Skill and valour as that
occasion. . .7 : :it 1 ,y/Z 13;4:5;1 ,
. Sir F.
_BuRDETI`,- Writhe le.ittairiallY to admit the-
ineonvenience (doing into discussion; of this kind :at pre- ,
...
sent, could not help saying, that soffar from, thinking the
battle
.of -I`...ravarin an " untoWard*event;', he thought. it in
the higfiesifdegree creditehie-to thet.charaCte'ilif -the Cond.. •
try, • and had raised it in*. the )esliiiiatiOn of the "civilized
world.--41-rear.). He had hoped, indeed, that those who
had. had the manliness-to have projected each. an ..enterpi ise,
would have afterwards had vigour enough_ to sustain their. ,
positien. He Was sorrow to see them sink beneath the
execution of their own'eonception; incl. die,- as it-Were, of '
their own diffidence, after others had expressed' so much
satisfaction. at what they had done. He was aniased., that
such a feeling should Lave survived among the . reninant
of the old Administration, after they had lost the benefit
of the abilities of those individuals who had quitted (and
he deplored it) the Administration of the country.—
For his own.part, and for his country, be would, *hen
the propertime came, be prepared to defend the policy and
wisdom of every measure connected with the battle of
Navar. Whether viewed as : a question of sound
policy, etpediency, or by' any referenee to-the genereral law
of natione,7- be was ready to defend it. And lie could nut• •
too Much. admire the great ability dirsplayed,hy the Adini-
Tel and his fleet in the execution of their perilous duty.—
(Hear.) "He bad executed the provisions of the Treaty in the
spirit with which its principle ha.d been originated, and he
ought to be thanked, whether there were a precedent or
net for such a proceeding. If there were, as had been
said, a precedent in point, theh-well and good -. if not, let
the subject be discussed upon its own intrinsic inerits;-.-
(Hear.) With respect to the omission of all allusion, to Ire-
land in the King's Speech, the isiohle Lord had informed
them that that ecinntrv. vas in' itiitiifa4eliy state, or at
least, that nothing had Occurred; since the last session, in
it: condition.to call for particular or prominent notice; he
hoped that this would. appear when lrisli subjects carne
altider dischsaioii-iii-thail House. He entertained different
anticipations linen' these 'topics. ---( Hear. )
me, V. 'FITZGERALD said-it was not to be expected
that Ireland should hove been mentioned
.in . his Majesty's
Speech,-as it was well known that the Ministry were not
prepared with any measure for that country. Indeed,
it was impossible that they should be " prepared with
any meastire, having been so recently formed. - Every
mart who. knew the private character of the *.• -Noble
Duke now at the head of the :Govennneet, knew 'that
be was .distinguished above every thing for moll,_
nee; and -sincerity. . - when they heard. him. Pledge.
himself, therefore, that-the pOwer and patronage of the
Va-own
should notbe.alloveed.. to interfere_ With the- pro,.
...._ ,
Ness of _ the Catholic Question, they had a right to give
the in-ea perfect 'confidence to such an:ErrOwal. The indi-
viduals_ of whom the ./Tobie' Duke -Net temposCd the Mi-
pistil-, were ' in thernselve :.pledgee - Of 'the principlest
upon which iewas 16 be conducted. - The noble Duke had*
taken joto-the Cabinet two- tier' Members, who wereiwell
-known to be .deilatfuykirimeeble to the.,-;cl„irn3 of the-
Catholics, and if 'l‘e.Der, yazi,eraid) (lid* not helleve that
-he most -periect'la\liae,,-,si 'tie/flied' to fieland,* he, as
well as *l'slOble'-'eArd Tariiiigsteni) w'reildlnive*wi veld
a
,i.:sulipnrt.f.ror4thiMilivtrprit az would. notccmceal otti
himself; that, wi!till.,..res ~. tto the great- qusti9,nl.3f - , , ore_ T
-- - u(,.JI a r---- 1--• • ited iri! Irdla*ii'd,-
eipit_iePi 17 -
ai:Sos 3 ready eat, -, .
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in "big' 44 , 4-.,i-id„eti, ;- Aft 'when they
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„ ap,binct Question,? their those whu admitted 1
this could not_nomplait!t as the Right 49.9... cleat-had corn-
plaided thht the
.CAtliblie GlAtion was • opt ~..vst,ative,iy..
mentioned in the
speechfropiAli e Throbe.- He would not
place the success of this .
quc.sieei en the-balan,,,,t'‘.otesfi-,
the Cabinet'. It-;vans in his' opinion, ah univiit: aad thmettliv
I nanou of
.4:eating
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(=relied forward by. the force.of 11,4bLiC-°Finion_ . tic con_
reived it 4: 'lllOt
.important gpes(4-74 Ittestion that ought
"t-,, tngage the. atieetioN cif Parliament ;-. and he' thought se
In oppoiiiibiiitti• nne Hon. ' ltreinber;: Who- declared the
luestion in his opinion to be of little value, and of another
,cho conceived that it might he postponed. - ' .-
.. The, report was ileught .up, and agreed. t 6.
BOROUGIt-OF 'p,ENRYN.
Lord J. RUSS
in LL-rose for tire of moving for
. :
;save to bring a'Bill to diefitiehise the borOugh of Pen-
( ye, and tioaransfer the right-of returning- Members to sit
ea Parliament to- the town of Iblochester. It was his in-

tention, in the proper stage of the Bill, to move that the
franchise be granted to occupiers of houses assessed to the
poor-rates at 20/. a year, resident within six miles of Man-
chester. His Lordship then moved, " That leave be given
to bring, in a-Bill' to exclude the borough of Penryn, in
the county of Cornwall, from the right of sending Mem-
bers to Parliament; and to enable the inhabitants of Man-
chester, and of certain townships adjoining, to return two
Members to serve in Parliament."
Mr. FERGUSSON was of opinion that evidence should
be produced to show clearly that the elective franchise
ought to be taken from the burgesses.
Mr. MANNING hoped the Noble Lord would give
surteient time, before the second reading took place, to have
the subject thoroughly examined.
Lord J. RUSSELL was wiling to give any tune that
might be deemed necessary for the defence of the btirgesses.
Leave was then given to bring in the bill.
BOROUGH OF EAST RETFORD.
Mr. TENNYSON, after a few wordi, in which he de-
clared his willingness, if necessary, to adduce farther evi-
dence of the corrupt state of the above borough,' moved,
" That leave be given to bring in a bill to exclude the
borough of East lictford from electing members to serve in
Paniaretht, and to enable the town of Birmingharo to elect
two Representatives in lieu thereof."
Mr. W. BANKES said, the circumstances of this case
were of a very peculiar nature. The Committee which sat
to consider the election for East Retford commenced their
labours in May last, and terminated them at the end of
that month ; and, by virtue of the power of suspending
the writ, which the House possessed, that borough had
since remained unrepresented. It was acknowledged that
the writ was suspended ; that the gentlemen who had set
up for the borough were unseated, not for bribery, but for
treating, which was a very inferior offence. Now, if that
were the only offence against those who seated them, and if
no charge of bribery were substantiated against those gen-
tlemen, it was clear that there could have been no suspen-
sion of the writ— But the Committee made a special Re-
port with respect to bribery having been committed on
former occasions, and also with reference to its having
been expected on this by those who concurred in electing
the then Members. No bribery was either brought home
to the Members or to the electors. The Members were,
hoWever, unseated, by the suspension of the writ, and
the Consequence was, that there was no per-
son in the House connected with the boroogh,
or interested in investigating the business. He knew how
ittefficient an advocate he should prove, if he offered to take
up the cause of those parties ; but having been nominee on
the'Election CoMmittee, and therefore better acquainted
with the circumstances of the case than the members ge-
nerally, he considered it his duty to call the attention of
the House, from time to time, to the circumstances. It
was impossible to say that the present evidence formed
fit ground for disfranchisint this borough, and depriving
-individuals of their rights. He entreated his Learned
Friend that this Bill should be proceeded in with as little
delay as possible, because, as they were taught that persons
accused were presumed to be innocent until they were
found guilty, it was evident that this case of the burgesses
of East Retford was rather a hard one.

After a few words from Mr. BATLEY and 31r. TENNY,-
son, who observed that no time should be lost in the pro-
secution of this measure, leave was given to bring in the
Bill.' •

PAUPER LUNATICS.

.Iqr. GORDON gave notice that he would on Tires-
"day;' Feb.' 13,. Move for leave to bring in a Bill, pursuant
to the resolutions 'of last 'session, un:the subject of pauper
lunatic asylums.
Mr. TENNYSON brought in a Bill to exclude the . ,
Bo-
rough of East Raiford. for:the. future from the privilege of
sending _members 1i Vargaracni; and to transfer the fran-
chise-froin that borough to--the 'town of Birmingham.-,--..
Bead the first time, and-ordered. to be read a second time
on -the 15th of February. - 7
TENNYSON then moved for an account of the
number of • inhabitant houkholders- in the-town of Bit-
ming ham at. the, :Ouse . of?. the year .1827, distinguishing
those whose annual holdings were, under 10/. ; with. an ac,
count of the amount of poor-rates and ethex parochial
charges leviedin the same. year,
An Ron.. MZINIBEit, whose name Ave,nould- not learn,
moved for do account of all Tin and Copper imported into
'England from. January, 1827, to January, 1828 ;
.also for
an account of the quantity of Copper exported" from this
country in the same year.
. ,

The: House then ailjournt.d at 1-lall-pastaix o'clock.

PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS.