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London, England, 1844-03-05 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS, 11larch 4.

The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the WOOl-
- shortly after Five o'Clock.
Earl POWIS presented several petitions from dif-
rent parts of Wales, against the union of the sees of
41Angor and St. Asao.

IRELAND.

The Marquis ofWITSTMEAT H. trusted that
their Lordships would excu-e him for a few minutes
Zbile he adverted to the letter which the other evening
had been produced by the Noble Marquis opposite, deny -
teg:the statement which he (the Marquis of Westmeath)
„Tclinade. Upon that occasion, he had stated that in
.county of Westmeath, the Roman Catholic bishop
had suspended a Roman Catholic clergyman for having
Mused to assist in the collection of money for the re-
kl7ll of the union. At the time he (the Marquis of
estmeath) made that statement, he thought it was
,
• bot when the Noble Marquis read the letter
tettrsPth•ting to correct it, he (the Marquis of Westmeath)
• hated as to its truth, and, in order to ascertain the
the answer
he had written to Ireland upon the subject, and
p! answer to • that letter proved that what he had
h',,ted was substantially the fact. What he had
It" was, that the Roman Catholic clergyman had
have
suspended from his living. Perhaps he would
to
been more correct if he had stated that he had
rn superseded. It was intended to hold one of
tn"W monster meetings at Mullingar. This clergy-
tan, had exerted all his influence to prevent the col-
Onn of money, and also to prevent his parishioners
in attending this meeting. Previous to the meeting
at.
)1, Mullingar taking place, the clergyman, whose name
ts Murray, and who had since died, was informed
that a curate would be sent to his congregation for
Xtee Sundays. That was done, and the result was,
that Mr. Murray was superseded in his own parish,
Such d
were the real facts of the case, and in his
1:1 Nlien the titular bishop had. made the denial ad-
verted to by the Noble Marquis in order to
Prevent
•
the odium that would attach to him for the
course he had pursued. Now, in order to show that
Lllat he (the Marquis of Westmeath) had stated was
ro exaggeration, he would read to their Lordships'
nie of the expressions used by this titular bishop at
ti,,T.lingar. At that meeting, fifty-one Roman Ca-
tric clergymen attended. It took place on Sunday
14th May. The Roman Catholic bishop was inthe
chair at the dinner which took place after the meeting,
he stated
during the course of his speech on that occasion
self that the Irish deserved and should have
government.' He then expressed the great plea
sure he felt at the glorious demonstration that
4d taken place that day, and he expressed the de-
triination on the part of the Irish people to follow
stie course they were adopting till they wiped off the
fade
that rested upon Ireland, and until they again
her what she ought always to have been—a nation.
Znothes person of the name of O'Higgins also made
wally
of the same tendency, anti in language
violent.—(The Noble Marquis then read an
bract of some length from a speech of the Roman
ttholic Bishop Dr. O'Higgins, in which that re-
:tend person declared himself a zealous repealer,
d denounced the malignity of the Government,
tin eh he said would be ineffectual towards put-
t° g down the demands of the Irish people
legislate for themselves.) In bringing this
"tter before their Lordships, he had only been im-
P°lll.ed by a sense of duty. It would be much more
seeable to him if he could speak well of the Roman
watholie bishops and clergy, but he thought it
th4Lbis duty as a resident magistrate to bring before
ti; Rouse any facts of importance which came under
Leingnizance in the discharge of his duties as a
lord and magistrate.
bthe Marquis of NORMANBY thought he would
b.‘ meet the substantial justice of the case,
denying
the statement on the part of the
light reverend person who had confided his de-
otlee to him (the Marquis of Normanby.)
il
sei the former occasion he had confined him-
t
Li,to a specific denial of the charge. The
141:iLe Marquis seemed to have a strange mode of
e,„_in.g. out his case. The Noble Marquis had made
t,,,t't'ethc charge, which was met by a specific denial,.
b'0":11 Which the Noble Marquis retorted, by reading
kL' only a speech of the right rev. person, but the
of another titular bishop also. Certainly
f,lWas carrying the doctrine of conspiracy rather
archer than it had been carried even of late years.—
k
o !".I', hear, and a laugh.) He (the Marquis of Nor-
ts,4°Y) had received by this day's post a letter
iohnt the Right Reverend person, Dr. Cantwell,
°k
assured him that he had never either
Cen or written a word to the late Dr.
mra7, palish priest of Clonmellon (four miles from
toptesidence of the Marquis of Westmeath), and that
fkbe the 14 years that he had been bishop of that
hi, "9, in which Dr. Murray had been 35 years the
6tttl, bent of a parish, he had lived with that rev.
',eltan on terms of the closest friendship, and
ktiltlways regarded him, with respect, esteem, and af-
v". He (Dr. Cantwell) attended at the funeral
ham deceased gentleman, assisted by 30 clergymen,
sit; nearly 3,000 persons attended at the funeral
Is% Innny.—(Hear, hear.) Was not that a complete
trer to the charge that Dr. Cantwell had passed
tth/teclesiastical censure upon his subordinate ? On
klat then did the Noble Marquis rest his charge of
4,,_Pension That the aged and rev. gentleman, after
to hag performed the duties of parish priest for nearly
tk Years, left his duty to be performed by his
plate,, for three successive Sundays, shortly before
hsvaueath. He (the Marquis of .1\ ormanby) would
iteif; the statement of the Right Rev. Dr. Cant-
in the hands of the House, and he thought
ii it .so
mp
(_Ltlete an answer that he would not add one word
sy
ear )
1.4,70. e, Marquis of WESTMEATH said, that their
ker'nips would decide between them, but he would
51i,;,),1t any account state who the person was from
he had received his information, for if he did
tie would expose . that person to imminent danger.
Shad heard the matter at the time, and he still
believed, notwithstanding the contradiction
1;4 s'• had been read to their Lordships, who would
4it its full value when they recollected the language
ty ell he had just read as having been used
kisere, right rev. person. Their Lordships would
lipo4llnge whether he would make a personal attack
ii an individual with whom he had no intimacy
ssit‘ever. There was another circumstance which
titii:perhaps, of some importance. The Noble Mar-
titk(l spoken of the parish of Clonmellon, but the
it t° which he (the Marquis of Westmeath) re-
4.Cie took place in the chapel of Kilallen. Did the
the Marquis deny that the curate had preached
Ise three separate Sundays ?
Ism: Marquis of NORMANBY said that he had
tthe kilin mention of any matter of the kind to which
444, le Marquis "now referred. He had confined
ker 'f to the. specific charge made by the Noble
the
.14., 81 and there was a distinct denial on the part of
1811 t Rev. Gentleman who had been made the
4seet of accusation.
Atle conversation then dropped.
/40,.., SIR AUGUSTUS D'ESTE.
124.
•A" BROUGHAM, in presenting apetition from
that d.lls:ustui D'Este said, that a former petition of
titirinkuished individual, respecting his right to
t_tirsed " of the late Duke of Sussex, had been re-
altis,to the Committee of Privileges. The, Prussian
tvitti,e‘er, the Chevalier Bunsen, who was an important
day in the matter, was about to proceed on Satur-
hot next to his own country, from which he would
Ntitineturn for three months, and the prayer of the
which he now presented was that the Stand-
ts.
us au. r, No. 120, of their Lordships' House, might
that tended ' • and he now gave notice of a motion to
of te."ect for to-morrow, in order that the evidence
tailhisati witness, de belie esse, might be taken previous
Aft eaving this country.
14) er a fewwords f Lord CAMPBELL and the
kb r, _from
~.,taitaieli.C.ELLOE, the petition was ordered to lie
1407.14,1TTEE OF THE PRIVY COUNCIL.
"Inb BROUGHAM laid on the table' a -Bill for
teerotrithogbthe JUrisdiction of the Judicial Commit-
The 7,, -L Council.
.411 Was read a first time.

L SLAVERY IN AMERICA.
fan orct
BROUGHAM said that he had received
veryq apPlications within the last few weeks upon a
ti 4, 113ainful subject, and though le had refused the
.e Banta to present any petition upon it, still he
\Vhil. 11,0 t help saying a few words upon the matter,
ft,4 he stated briefly the reasons for which he re-
be t° Present any petition. N thing could
either ,e Painful than any interference° whatever of
any matter
thin 'louse of Parliament with
4r any that was connected with the domesticsd policy
minis-
ttitti-o3;, teat
country, or belonging to the
tbuu the municipal law of that country. He
that
N,Nle ',lt it was no "reason for breaking
ti-1
-411-at it happened that any law of that coun-
• mkt 48 revolting o our feelings, because we
44e:c:4141 whatever to do except with our-
°to 41111 our own law, and • the
Meyer jurisprudence, and we had no business.n
re,t2er.to interfere with any foreign country
lti4';t,..wilatsoever, while that foreign country con-.
caonoy-
ttst 'elf to its own law and the adminstration f
priniliNv. • That he held to be so sacred
4143' elPle, that he had refused to take
hith.l whatever on the question brought before
es,elhlcp. at it was a case which greatly interested hisn
'ne 's' A. man had been condemned to death
B,e4te:'nlinal Court of Lousiana, with the
`.l. hee passed by the Learned Judge, as
?Prom t.ad committed murder—with the
Itlati 1;4,7 language of such a sentence, as if such
With direati been guilty of the greatest wickedness—
thetbe
irvet
bestiu o the unfortunate man to improve
/541e1rval een the sentence and his dying upon_
teligio„'w3--Vtith reference to the sacred truths of
" if the man had committed impiously an
Was lus and cruel and barbarous murder. That
titawn. "se to which his attention had been
*•`e Was bound to suppose that the Louisianian