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would not press anything which he was not fully able to bear out
evidence.
The Committee then adjourned till twelve o'clock to-morrow,

Group X.

This Committee re-assembled this morning, and proceeded with
the cue of the

LONDON AND YORK RAILWAY.

Mr. T. Fountain was called by Mr. PAGET—He stated that he
resided at Leeds. He was called to speak to the accuracy of the
traffic tables which were handed in yesterday.
Mr. Delray did not think that this evidence was necessary, as
he did not think the case before the Committee could be affected
by the manner in which traffic tables had been taken in other
cases.

Mr. V. LEE, for the opponents, supported this view.
The majority of the Committee, however, were in favour of the
admission of the evidence.
Mr. Fountain then stated that he had considerable experience in
taking traffic tables. He approved of the calculations made by
the witnesses who were examined yesterday. The witness then
handed in several tables of traffic taken in other cases, and these
were taken upon the same principle as that which had been adopted
by the witnesses in the present case.
Mr. Atkinson, of Peterborough, was next called and examined.
He was a magistrate of the county of Nottingham. The opinion of
the people of Peterborough was nearly unanimous in favour of the
London and York project.
Cross-examined by Mr. V. LEE—He had heard that a petition had
been got up by the inhabitants of Peterborough in favour of the
Cambridge and Lincoln line. Did not know that the petition was
numerously signed. Both the Cambridge and Lincoln line and
the London and York line would pass through his property.
The witness was further cross.examined by Mr. JAMES, but
nothing important was elicited.
Mr. T. Hill, of Peterborough, examined—He dealt in coal,
wool, timber, and corn. He used to carry on an extensive busi.
ness. It had fallen off lately. The reason of this was that he had
lost hie partner.—( Great laughter.) He sent a great deal of wool
to Leeds. He sent it by sea, and the carriage was 455. per ton.
By the London and York line the distance to Leeds would be
ninety-seven miles, and the charge for carriage would be
twopence per ton per mile by the railway He sent
a great deal of grain to Leeds and Wakefield, and it
cost 11. a ton to send it. By the railway it would coat 10s. Id. He
preferred the London and York before any other scheme. It was
of importance to him in the carriage of his goods that the railway
should be under one management.
Mr. Richard Wallace, grocer, of Peterborough—He received a
great quantity of goods from London. By the proposed railway
he would effect a great saving in carriage.
Mr. Packe, a landowner in Lincolnshire, was called and exa_
mined by the promoters. The feeling of the people of Lincolnshire
was in favour of the London and York scheme. He had resided in
the county for forty years. Had attended several of the public
meetings which had been held in Lincolnshire in favour of this

railway.
Cross.examined—The meetings were not unanimous in their
resolutions.
Mr. Christopher, M.P. for Lincolnshire, was next examined. He
had attended the public meetings which had been held in favour of
the London and York Railway. The majority of the persons at

those meetings were in favour of the proposed line. He had at
first taken no part in the agitation in favour of the line, but he had
at length thought it desirable to give his support to the line. He
thought this line would afford the best means of communication to
Lincolnshire. The farmers were generally in favour of the line.
If he consulted his own convenience, he would support the Cam-
bridge and Lincoln line, as that passed within three miles of his
house, whereas the London and York line would be thirteen miles
distant from it.
Cross-examined by Mr. WEBSTER—Do you not know that
Boston is a very important port ?
Mr. Christopher—l have heard that in the time of the Hep.
tarchy it was a more important fort than London.—(Laughter.)
Mr. WERSTER—IS it not a very important port now ?
Mr. Christopher—Yes, it is an important port now.
Mr. WHIIBTER—And I believe the Cambridge and Lincoln
line passes there ?
Mr. Christopher—Yes, it does.
The Committee adjourned at four o'clock.

Group N.
WEST CORNWALL RAILWAY.

At the sitting of the Committee this morning, Mr. Rowe, who,

it may be recollected appears for Lord Vivian, said it was his in-
tention to examine Captain Moorsom on some matters of impor-
tance in relation to certain alterations which were to be made in
the present Hayle Railway, and which was to be included in the
West Cornwall, now under the consideration of the Committee.
He contended that the projectors of the West Cornwall Rail.
way had no power to include the Hay le Railway,
as new land would be required and alterations would
have to be made, which would render an application
to Parliament for such powers necessary, and this could
not be done until next session. So that, if the Committee sanc-
tioned the Bill for constructing the West Cornwall, no power hav-
ing been given for altering the Hayle line, an interregnum of
seven miles would exist (the Hayle Railway runs between portions
of the new line). The case of the Croydon Railway was analogous
to this case. The works were suspended in 1844 until the present
session, because they required power to widen their railway and the
bridges running over it. Then, with respect to the opposition
of Lord Vivian to the Bill. If they would not make their terminus
on his land his Lordship would withdraw his opposition to the Bill.
Any consent, however, to that effect must be included In a clause
in the Bill.

Mr. BIRCIIASf, on the part of the promoters of the Bill, said
he did not intend to take any of the inclosed land.
Mr. IluwE— On the enclosed land : You cannot say thet you
are not goiug to erect your terminus on the piece of land opposite
Newham House. In fact, we do not want the terminus made its
front of that house on the property of his Lordship.
Much conversation ensued respecting his Lordship's property
being required for the purpose of the erection of a terminus.
Lord Vivian, it appeared, was willing to devote a portion of the
mud.bank referred to yesterday to that purpose; but the obstacle
of expense militated against an equitable arrangement.
It was said, on the one side, that he had demanded 9,0001. for
this land, whilst, on the other, it was positively asserted that no
such demand had ever been made. . .

Mr. BIRCITAM was willing to refer the matter to the arbitration
of two individuals, one on the part of the Company, and the other
on the part of his Lordship.
At the suggestion of the Committee time was given to effect an

amicable arrangement, if possible.
The examination of Captain Moorsom, ley Mr. RowE, was then I
resumed. He said the proprietors of the liayle Railway would lay
down the broad gauge, on the assumption that it should become
part of the new line. In fact, there would be three rails instead of
two, as heretofore. A new single rail would be laid down outside
one of the others, which would not be interfered with. The width
of the embankment of the Hayle Railway is from sixteen to
ei,;hteeis feet; in some places it is wider. Sixteen feat is the nor.
rowest point. About fourteen feet is the narrowest width of the
bridges on which the railway runs. The bridges of the line are
unusually high. No alterations would render any interference with
the adjoining property necessary. do new power would be required.
If more land were wanted, it could be easily obtained, as the land-
owners had ever been most accommodating. Knew of no case
where they would have to deal with trustees of turn-
pike roads in respect to any ground which they might
require for the purpose of altering the Hayle Railway.
The witness was examined by Mr. HARTLZY with respect to the
property of Mr. Thomas, who had petitioned the Committee
against the railway running through his property, which was
stopped by Mr. Thomas himself saying that, if they would erect
the line off, and to the north of his property, as he had proposed,
he would pay any additional expense which would thus be entailed
upon the Company.
This matter, like the last, was also adjourned to give time for
consideration.
Mr. Rowe, referring to the case of Lord Vivian, said his Lord.
ship had no desire to thwart the intention of the Company by
seeking an exorbitant price for his property, feeling that it might
be of great importance to the district, and that many of the inha-
bitants might be in favour of it. On the part of his Lordship he
had therefore to propose that the matter should be referred to
Mr. Pendarves, one of the Members for the county, who was quite
unconnected with the Company, and to Mr. Humphrey Williams,
one of its Directors. He was anxious to have this done to-day,
that the matter might be again brought before the Committee in
the morning.
Mr. ALEXANDER, on the part cf the Company, acquiesced in this
proposition.
Mr. MACAULAY (the Chairman) said the proposition was a fair

one, and would, he trusted, lead to a satisfactory result.
Captain Moorsom was examined at great length by Mr. SVALE,
with respect to the running of the railway through property be.
longing to the Rev. Mr. Millet, without eliciting any point of in.
terest.

Mr. Brunel, the engineer, said he had examined the line, and
that it offered many facilities for the construction of a railway.
Mr. Whitley, a surveyor, had estimated the total expense of the
land required fee the line at 5,6134/.
Mr. Ratchet!, also a surveyor, at 5,4001.
Mr. ALEXANDER said, with that evidence, his case for the pream-
ble was closed.
Mr. SHALE was addressing the Committee on behalf of the Rev.
Mr. Millet, who opposes the line because it will injure his property
to a great extent, and because there is sufficient railway accommo-
dation in the district at the present time, when the Committee
adjourned.
The Cornwall Railway will not be taken until Monday, the 19th
inst, to which day the Committee will adjourn from to-morrow.
The Committee will conclude their investigation in the present
Bill, if possible, to-morrow.

Group DD.

THE CALEDONIAN, AND THE GLASGOW, DUMFRIES,