The Sun.
London, England, 1844-01-20 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, JANUARY, 1844.

and that they should feel the highest gratitude to the
people of Donegal for meeting in the numbers they did,
and for acting so peaceably, and returning without the
slightest accusation of a breach of the peace, and all this
peaceable determination exhibited by them showed
their firm resolve__to join with the rest of Ireland

in seeking for Repeal. He moved a vote of thanks
to the persons who called and managed that meet-
ing, and especially the inhabitants of Innishowen,
and that the letter should be inserted on the minutes.

They might rely upon it that nothing. would gratify
them more than any Repeal meeting in the north,
when it was confined within the limits of the Constitu-

Lion, and the more numerous they were the more they
would be gratified, provided they created no rancour in
any party: The Donegal meetincr had this advantage,
that it irritated no person ; on the contrary, it rather

had the effect of soothing any bad feelings that were
raised in the minds of the Orangemen. The Anti-Re-
pealer could not retard the question except by giving it
a sectarian complexion ; and it should be understood that
it was not a sectarian question, or a measure intended
for the advantage alone of any particular persuasion, or
to do mischief to the people of any particular creed. It
was intended for the good of all persons of every creed,
and would prove as advantageous to Presbyterians, to
the Catholics, and to the,Episcopalian Protestants,
as to either. It was intended for the good of all
Irishmen.—(Cheers.) They did not mark them
out in sections or divisions, and say some are Pro-
testants, or some are Catholics, or Presbyterians.
They would have no sectarian distinctions ; the only
mark they recognised was the name of Irishman. Their
object was to give Ireland to the Irish, and the man
was a bitter enemy of Ireland that attempted to create
any other feeling amongst them.—(Hear, hear.) They
should expel from the Association any man that made
use of a phrase of a bigoted nature, or one reflecting on
the religious profession of any class. The great evil of
Ireland was its religious distinctions, for the tree of
liberty could only flourish when it was watered by the
grace of charity. They had opened the portals of the
Constitution to every, class and creed, and they should
dismiss for ever from amongst them the foul fiends of
religious distinction that had so long desolated the
land.—(Cheers.)"
Mr. HATCHELL—Go down a good way farther, if you
please, and read your report of the remarks which fell
from Mr. O'Connell in reference to a remittance from
West Canada that day.
The witness read from his notes his version of the re-
marks in question. The newspaper report of same runs
thus :—" Mr. °tonne!' said'he was delighted that their
fellow-subjects in Canada West were advancing to their
assistance. As long as the2Canadians kept within the
limits of the law they found him an ungifted but a most
zealous advocate. He acknowledged that he deserted
them the moment they had recourse to violence, and vio-
lated his principles by breaking into rebellion. At first
it caused every kind ot misfortune to their native country,
but Lord Stanley, who seemed to him to have the oddest
idea of things in the*world, was now conferring every
kind of favour on those who survived the rebellion. He
found that a general amnesty had been granted to those
engaged in, it— that the bills of indictment against
Papineau and others had been quashed, and that the
Attorney-General had a nolleprosequi on those indictments.
A rebellion in Ireland had been attended with the worst
consequences. Ile was convinced that a rebellion would
ruin Ireland. There never should be a rebellion while he
lived, but he would not carry the question of Re-
peal less securely on that account. He would nut give
one straw for Repeal ir it were not carried without the
stu;dding of one drop of human blood. The people stood
by himpand would obey his advice, and he never saw a
readier acquiescence in it than was exhibited on the pre-
ceding day at Mullsghmast. He would tell their friends
in Canada of that meeting— the most gigantic and mag
nificent assemblage that he had e'er attended, with the
single exception of Tara. Nothing could equal the beau-
tiful scene that presented itself to Ihe eye as they passed
up the long avenue ascending the Mount of Muilaglimast
the countless thousands that lined the way—the many
black-eyed women—aye, and the beautiful women, too,
that were with their husbands, and fathers, and bro-
thers. They did not entertain the least idea that there
would be the smallest encroachment on their delicacy, for
there was not one man among the hundreds of thousands
that were assembled that would not soonerhave died than
offend one of them.—(Cheers.) They were there perfectly
safe and secure in the high-souled honour and protec-
tion of their countrymen—blessings on the lovely wo-
men of Kildare. And his (Mr. O'Connell's) police were
there with their cards upon their hats, and signifying
they had authority to keep the peace if there was an
opportunity of keeping it, which there was not. No-
thing could be more cruel than marching the unfortu-
nate green-coated police to these meetings; for what
were they wanted there? It any of the stipendiary ma-
gistrates came to him he would tell him off as many
men as would be sufficient to keep the peace.—(Cheers.)
They might keep the police at home, and not have them
wearing their shoes traversing the country in cold wea-
ther,—(Laughter.) There were two things in the con-
duct of Sir Henry Hardinge and the Government that
he complained of, and this was marching about
' the police in this way (they had given up
the practice of harassing the army, and he was
glad of it), and having in fortifying Athlone
cut down- two beautiful trees near its walls
to make the fortifications more secure. A tree
was a public loss to that country. He loved a fine old
tree; nature never produced anything more delightful
to the eye than the waving branches of an aged tree
that was still green and in vigour. He would. forgive
Sir Henry Hardinge anything but that. To come
back to Canada next ; was it not delightful to them
to have their brother Irishmen chirping to them
from such a distance ; but he begged of them, as he
did of Mr. O'Ferrall, not to abuse, the Orangemen so
much, and to use civil language to them. It was
quite manifest they were not afraid of the Orange-
men ; and why, then, should they scold them ?
for persons only had recourse to scolding when they
were afraid. He heartily thanked their friends in
Canada, but he was glad that they had got over their
rebellion, and that t!,eir country was near a free coun-
try, and had a Parliament freely elected. The English
Government had the good sense to let the Canadians
'govern Canada. All offices were filled by Cana-
dians, or were being filled by them, and no man got into
office who did not concur in opinion with the majority
of the Parliament. It shevted how wise it was to give
every dependency in England the power of self-govern-
ment, with a local Government ; for Canada was now
declared by the Ministry themselves to be, for the first
time, in a state of unbroken quiet, except where it was
interruptedg Orange faction. It was
now to make any distinction be-
Orange es
hn decaying
eii
y and quiet. How little did
th
tween the two countries. If they had a mind to
strengthen the empire—make it invincible against the
world, and make the throne stable and secure for ever,
they would make no distinction between them. He
ey settling
know t the down
moved that the letter and lists of names be inserted on
the minutes—that the persons named be enrolled as as-
sociates and members, according to the amount of their
subscriptions; and that Mr. Ray be directed to convey
the most respectful thanks of the Association to the gen-
tlemen individually and generally, who had subscribed."
Now, Mr. Hughes, will you be good enough to refer to
the report of the meeting at the theatre in Abbey-street,
and turn to Mr. O'Connell's speech there—but that re-
minds me to ask you a question that I intended awhile
ago. You said that Mr. O'Connell was dressed in
crimson or scarlet at Mullaghmast ?—Yes, he had a

robe on.
Wasn't that the robe usually worn by the Lord Mayor
st
pharmeeomele meeting
Clontarf
of Dublin?—yes.
And were there not several other aldermen and town
councillors there wearing those robes?—Yes.
Read Mr. O'Connell's speech at the theatre in reply to
the address of the Repealers of Manchester.—The wit-
ness read the reply, as previously published in the report
of the proceedings at the meeting.
After reading the resolutions which were read by the
ewetilyou read Mr. O'Connell's speech at that
ini g in Abbey-street?--Witness here read, the
at length, from his own notes. .
HATCHELL--Were you in Dublin any time after
meeting ?—I was, for four or five days.
Mr. LIATCHELL—Perhaps you were there ?—Yes, I
was there.
Mr. HATeHELL—What were the directions you re-
ceived with the attendance at these meetings ; were you
to attend all the meetings ?—I was to attend the meet-
ings at the Corn Exchange and the monster meetings.
Mr. HATCHET:AL—Were you aware of the proclamation
being issued to suppress the Clontarf meeting?—Yes, I
was aware-of it.
Mr. HATCHELL—Did you receive any orders to attend
there?—l received no particular orders to attend, I went
from curiosity.
Mr. HATCHELL—Did you report what occurred there?
—No, I had nothing to report, I saw nothing there but
troops.
Mr. HATCHELL—Do you recollect anything,occurring
at a meeting of the Association, previous to the Clontarf
meeting, whilst discussing
the preparations for that
meeting ?—No.
Have you any note that Mr. O'Connell mentioned an
application from some Protestant clergymen in respect to
the propriety of conducting the procession so as not to
interrupt Divine service ?—I do not think I have any
such note.
Mr. HATCHELL—I believe that took place at the cor-
poration ?—I was not at the corporation.
Mr. HATcnELL—You stated that when you came up
to Dublin, after the meeting at Mullaghmast, you asked
Mr. Ray for some documents relative to that meeting.
What did Mr. Ray say to you ?—He said he was' not the
secretary to the Mullaghmast meeting, or he would give
them.
Mr. HATcuELL—You have stated Ole names of several
persons who attended at the adjourned meeting at the
Corn Exchange. Have you not proved a speech as de-
4ivered by Mr. Steele there ?—I have.
Mr. Hatchell concluded his cross-examination, and it
was resumed by Mr. Moore, Q.C., for another of the
traversers. _ . ..

Cross-examined by Mr. MoonE—Direct your atten-
tion to the meeting at the Corn Exchange, on the 3d
of October. Did you see Mr. 'Tyrrell there?-4 did.
Mr. MOORE—Were you acquainted with his person
sa
before that?-4 never w him before that day.
Mr. MOORS—What time did you enter the meeting?—
I went there about twelve o'clock, and remained till half-
past four or five.
Mr. MOORE—Was it a very considerable meeting?—
No, it was not; the place was not very large.
Mr. MOORE—Weii, was not the meeting fully at-
tended?— There were 300 or 400 persons present.
Mr. MOORS—Were there many speeches delivered ?
—Not a great number.
Mr. MOORE—Did not several persons speak there that
day, who are not now on their trial ?—Yes ; I believe
there were speeches made there by persons who are not
aio.vv :on trial...
Mr. Moore conclude-A
his cross-examination, and Mr.
M'Donough resumed it on behalf of, Mr. Barrett.
Mr. DVDciriouou-j-Inform the Court and jury what