The Sun.
London, England, 1819-12-18 00:00:00

tut lent iliesellealms, by-infusing the -necestiary
d, .tee orettergrioro that =part of the law, with-
out which the-safety of 'tlo: .whole must be-com-
promised ; but be trusted the system of precau-
tionary measures now in :progress, of which the
esent formed so important :part, would enable
the cottony to rise superior to all its difficulties.—
The Noble Secretary concloded 'by 'moving, that
the Ilforse'itlo•nomi resolveiteelfinto'a Committee
on the Bill.
EarkirCwaii 'Avow del:l've-tea his sentiments
at some lengtb.--1-le::was 'opposed to; the 'Bill 'in
=question as faulty,.aad„rablectiottable, he said, in'
-parta,,to such. a degree as he feared'
'it could not be adequately amended in CommitH
Tee. One objection -struck bite as most glaring,
namely. the,duration of the 'Bill ; arid, if the next
• srag'e was resolved upon, be itreviously
'move for an instruction to 'the C:Ommitree, 'that
the dtitation of the Bill should be limited'to the
'lst July, 1822. Ile admitted the actual state of
'rat I'S of 'the Country WasittCh as that so.ne modir
fiction of the great principle of the constitotional
'Taw may be necessary. But he Must • deprecate
al!ration of that kind, without doe delibera-
tion anti even demonstration of its necessify.
of the Noble Gentleman'. opposing
t'gionent referred:to'the'imrvisions of the 'Bill;tais
directed against of likely tn,rifitct County ICleet,-
'l44'ancl 1 j this View, the great degree of vow re
itito the haul's of Magistrates; (ir.eveo
their absence, into those of the Under' Sheriff.
tVeVethe measure only temporary it WOuld not hit
`S& gut tunable, Init where a 4turalion of five yearli
eras iiiqrposed, it becaMe'oricorserinitsinagnitudeli.
The appointment a (lie -Nlugistralei fl'o'wed front
the Ci own, either 'tinting!) the inedium of tilt
Lotil thambetlain, or the Lieutenants of Count
'ties, The-ctotiduct of the present worthy he lder
'of that 'important office, he meant not to reflect
Upon, but then future Chancellors' may be armed
With' Pint) a po‘ter, He really considered the pre:
:sent.qtrestioti divested of all party feeliogi, but hi
could -not reconcile hithaelf to that which' Would
'render a 'great pirt of those who attended Such
nieetingsliable even Id a degree of punishment at
the discretion of a Magistrate, or even an Under
' Sheriff; who could, 'at any rime, after the reading
'of a proclamation, 'put an end to a meeting. The
Noble Earl
,then ailcerted to the actual state of
'Many 'Paris of the 'country, a, great portion of
,Which be attributed to the distresses that prevailr
ed ; flinch of what was comPlainrd of may 'be
renredied-by a system Of Loncili'ation,aud earnest
endeavour* to relieve the distresses of the people.
The'Comitry had to acknoWledge, witb•gratittide.
'the modification introduced by his Noble Friend
into the Seditions Libels Bill, by limiting the pe-
tirid which prosecutions should pend'io` ono
year instead of to' aft indefinite period. •andif
upitif spoke 'true, s;trieluither Steps towards con;
were adopted hy Ministers in anothee
place.* But rn he or€' e'specially', in the- same fari
ifrourable,point of view.,:• had to' advert to 'a mea4
'lure pending in th'e' other .House, Which- would
lead to the disfranchisement of home, orthe awl
venal 13orringhs, and transfer the reptesentatio
to soltre of the more popolous and Wealthy towns
'et distliets. This' Was a' most important cOnce's-i
shu Ulla 'alio made by Minister of the'Crown)
"and -which would lead Co the most berrefieial re
salts, particularly with reference, in' future; 1
'the-great qUeitioirt of Peace or War. Tit
Noble Earl dill not seem lo wish the principle ,o
disfranchisement carried too far, as lie highly RH
prover) ~f'tlre ~itlntiiiiiles laid doWtrin an article)
i!virhielt , appeared in the `.‘ Pliuburgh Review,"i
.about two years sinces ':which lie regarded as
,monstrating the superior excellence of..the,mixeri
nature of the representation of which a part-. 01
: the.-British House of. Commons 'was composed, by;
means of whicleable and qualified: persons- of
descriptions. found access to the llouse.of Com
canons..:. He was-=not an advocate for that enthusij
~ast principle of change in that important, branch;
tof the Constitntion avowed .by
.some. To matiirt!
lest. a.true spirit of conciliation would go a great!
,:tvay-.towarals.attaching.the wise tempera of,Eug-
Aishmen.:. in concluding his observations on the
olgenerat subject, the ..Noble..Earl =repeated. hisi
,intention :to move as.stated in.-the early part
of
::his speech.

s._ .
Purl-KING thought .the Bill tlecAledly ,objeci
only in itself, but as part ofa system;
,of dangerous coercion ; the more'.lto. as . such -A!
.g.reat ~.change in the Constitution proposed'
.before they, had:a full view of the.question before!
Alsetn.,..A9-inquiry was refused, and an, intenipe-.i
srate letter .of. approbation .written of the tinfor-
,tnn.ate proceedings at .Manchester..:- Ministers,
iire!t4ought, had prejudged• the question .by-theiri
icaPsitter.on the ()erasion ;..theii,eunduct:opon.thei
~wbol was much more. likely Ao• aggravate..th.an-to
aciiiikEt.. Strong measuEes•zruay,ivrimpk, liOWl
Abe,l,l4cea*ary, but they .should be ...receded
Ig-440,1,11nd accompanied. by measures .of .concilia.!
;.Linn;,;AVere : the latter , the real bona li.de!,ittteu-
ztiipu Miniskers..only .temporarylnicatures would
ii-be,proposed.. The term olfive years.,bc deemedi
tal moo: indefinite. in politics, - measures;
io.wete only, iiroposed for .a• short -tints, • they may
be with less difficulty adopted; as their effect could
.be fuily.. tried.;- but a 'Measure of long:confirm-I
Airier, on such a principle,.he.must object to. He
should..therelore vote tor, the illtellded proposition;
:of his -Noble Friend.,

The. Duke of AT ROLL, contended, _that the sitit-
istion . of ,msny parts:of, the country evidently fell-.
ole.rekl..the proposed. system of measures necessary•,
ane,A.quittry .could only look to :Parliament .fori
„such .measures as would prove its salvation.. The
;,flisorders they had 'to counteract were .of an almost
overwhelming magnitude,. and.that .stich was the;
sense of both Houses, was apparent from those,
iNverwhebning majorities. .which,, supported, Abe:
...w.ise,and energetic measures of. his Majesty's,M4-1
,k)isters ;._ and• many of those Members: who. nowt
the necesity of auppoi Ling them, were among;
hoses 'who usually _opposed .the Government oni
Jornier pacaoons, No serious .or.effectual oppo,l
.ikijion .as. offered to .am one of the ,ineasuresi
,which,tbe wisdom of,bis Majesty's 'Ministers had,
t.t.ihtugh3 fit to. propose. They; Fere loitered itp!
AY.4l',allPitte ovaef.sv baffling urajorities, littW
lorrictitioed lheirriutrodotion 1, and ~fo,r the..good:
c0itn,13',044, zealously lioped..t Ike same 'lin&
of conduct would be continued. For the abilities
of many upon that Bench (the Opposition) he had
the highest respect ; but some of them now agreed