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RAILWAY COMMIT FEES

(THIS DAY.)

HOUSE OF LORDS.
LEEDS AND THIR.SE.

The Committee, consisting of the Duke of Grafton, Lord Col-
borne, the Bishop of Rochester, the Marquis of Ormonde, and Lerd
de Lisle and Dudley, met at eleven o'clock, Lord Colborne in the
chair.

This line met with strong opposition before the Committee of
the House of Commons, P. M. Stewart. Esq., M.P., in the chair,
It was before the same Committee, and in opposition to this line,
that the Ripon and Harrogate line was brought under considera.
Lion, and which, atter many days' investigation, was suddenly with.
drawn one morning, to the surprise of the Committee, who
found that their time had been occupied for several days
in a most useless manner. The subject was subsequently brought
under the notice of the house of Commons, and it was alleged that
there was some gambling connected with it of no creditable cha-
racter.

The principle opponents in the Commons to the Leeds and Thirsk
line were the Ripon and Harrogate line, already mentioned, the
Earl of Cardigan, and Mr. Dynely.
Lord Cardigan's opposition was in consequence of the linepassing
so near a beautiful old ruin, Kirkstall Abbey, on his property, and
which his Lordphip has taken the pains of an antiq Im-ion to pre-
serve. The promoters of the line, however, diverted it, so as to
render its proximity to the abbey as little disadvantageous as
possible to the pleture.queness of the scenery.
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There were some landowners in opposition to the scheme, but
their mouths were stopped with gold. The only remaining oppo-
nents were the agents of Mr. Dynely, who were again in opposi.
tion to-day.

Mr. Dynely is a lunatic under the guardianship of the Court of
Chancery. It was by the Lord Chancellor's directions that Mr.
Whitehurst, Q.C., appeared in opposition to the line at the Corn..
mons and before their Lordships to-day. His opposition is
grounded on this fact. The line passes contigm,us to the village of
Bramhope, six miles from Leeds, and would, it was alleged, de-
stroy some valuable springs with which that town is supplied with
water.

Mr. BAINES, Q C., offered to insert clauses in the Bill guarantee-
ing an ample supply of water to the town in case the excavations
from the line interfered with the springs in question. Toe terms
offered were not considered satisfactory, and hence the appearance
before their Lordships.

Thee facts having been stated, the Noble CHAIRVAN said he
really thought it would be much better if the parties would with_
draw and arrange the matter privately, as it was more a matter of
private arrangement than for judicial interference.

The Counsel agreed that this would be the most desirable course,
and withdrew to confer.

It may be mentioned that the line will connect some of the most
important towns of the north of England—Wigan, Bolton, Roch-
dale, and others of the same rank; it passes through one of the
most fertile coal beds in that district, and if the traffic tables laid
before the Commons' Committee were at all accurate, there can be
no doubt but the line will be a most useful and successful specu-
lation.

The investigation of the line before the Commons' Committee
occupied ten days, when the preamble was at length declared proved.
Upon returning to the room counsel seemed as far from agree.
ment as ever, and two hours more were occupied in wrangling
about guarantees for a proper supply of water to Bramhope.
The Noble CHAIRMAN suggested that the whole matter alight
be settled by constituting the Recorder of Leeds as arbitrator
whenever a difference should arise between the directors of the
railway and the trustees of Mr. Dynely, in regard to a deficiency
in the supply of water to the town.

Alter another hour spent in disputing upon speculative contits.
gencies, the Committee ordered the room to be cleared.

After the lapse of a few minutes the doors Were opened, and
The CHAIRMAN declared that the Committee were of opinion that
the guarantee offered by the promoters of the Bill was a fair one,
and that the clauses they proposed to insert in the Bill were of a
satisfactory character.

The Committee then went through the clauses pro forms, and
broke up.

CALEDONIAN RAILWAY.

Their Lordships resumed the consideration of this line to.day.
Earl Radnor in the chair.

Mr. Hope Johnston, M.P., examined by Mr. FORSYTH, for the
promoters of the Bill, deposed at great length to the merits of the
undertaking, and in cross.examination by Mr. ANDREWS, Q. C, who
repress rated the Dumfries line, spoke to the great advantages which
the extension of the line between Dumfries and Portpatrick would
confer on the latter town.

The CHAIRMAN observed that he thought it wholly unnecessary
to enter into any particulars in reference to the communication
with Portpatrick, as a project tor connecting that town with Dum-
fries, w:s common to both schemes, and therefore whichever was
approved by the Committee would complete the extension if re-
quired.

Mr. ANDREWS, Q.C., urged that the communication with Port-
patrick was an integral and most important portion of their propo-
sition; and, although it had been negatived in its progress before
the Commons' Committee, it now appeared in precisely the same
position as if they possessed a Bill.

The CIIMIRM AN dissented. They could not be in a similar situa.
tion, for if the Committee rejected the Caledonian line there was no
guarantee that the other line would ever proceed, and the whole
community might possibly be left unaccommodated.

After a desultory conversation between counsel and the Com-
mittee, it was decided that no evidence should be received relat-
ing to the communication between Dumfries and Portpatrick.
Mr. Pare, the traffic taker, handed in the traffic tables, and
entered into details of the income expected from the assumed
quantity of goods employing the line for transit.

Evidence confirmatory of the accuracy of the traffic tables and
other formal proof was then given.

Mr. James Baird, an extensive iron-master, whose works wou'd
be intercepted by the Caledonian Railway, bore testimony to the
Importance of that line to the blasts and furnaces, forty-six of
which it would immediately pass.

The Committee, at four o'clock, adjourned till twelve to-morrow.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
GROUP A.

On the meeting of the Committee this morning at the usual
hour, the Chairman said that Mr. M`Geachy was still unable to
attend, and that the business must therefore proceed in his absence.
Mr. COCKBURN then addressed the Committee on the part of the
promoters of the

the Intern might be pawed for the convenience of Billy not re.:
ported on ; and, in case the project should be introduced:

GhOUP L.

SOUTIE-WIESTERN BizArrcx-ms.
P onTsmouanz ONLOUP.

The Committee resumed this morning at twelve o'clock by ad-
journment from Friday last, when it will be remembered by our
readers that the Committee decided that so much of the pre-
amble of the South- W..stern Company's Bill should be allowed as
went to make a line from Guildford to Godalming and also from
Fareham to l'ortsea.

The Guildford and Godalming branch was first taken, and the
clauses were allowed up to the point where the junction at Godal-
ming w:th the Direct Portsmouth line was required, when a dis-
pute arose as to the way in which this was effected, when it was
ultimately decided, according to the wish of the Committee, to give
as much pub:ic accommodation as possible. A clause was then
drawn up for effecting this purpose.
After some discussion the Junction at Fareham was agreed upon
without the station being fixed, and without any reciprocal, right
being conceded for travelling on the lines between Chichester,
Farcham, and Portsmouth. The other clauses were passed through,
and the Committee adjourned till to-morrow at twelve o'clock.

There are other clauses yet to pass, but there are no questions
of main interest to adjudicate, and thus has terminated a contest
of more than six week's duration, in which several Queen's
counsel, two or three sergeant's-at-law, and a large portion of the
junior bar have been engaged—a contest in which the
highest forensic skill, experience, energy, and determination have
shown to carry the object of their retainers. And whether we look
at the pertinacity of the parties engaged, the importance of the
interests to the public—not the mere dwellers on the line, but
to all engaged in the freedom of intercourse between dif-
ferent parts of the empire—is of immense importance
It may be transgressing our province, but we feel that we should be
inadequately doing justice to those who have been engaged in this
contest if we were not to bear testimony to the pains taken and
imblic spirited industry, and disinterestedness with which the Com-
mittee have evinced for the public interests. Whether we look
at the forensic ability of the council engaged at the acuteness
of Monkton Milnes, the mathematical attainment of Mr. Oswald,
the scientific acumen of Mr. Vyvian, the perspicuity of Lord
Clive, or the honest Yorkshire independence, and practical, busi.
ness, and intelligent qualities of the Chairman, we are bound to
gate that a more admirable concert of qualities, both mental and
moral, could rarely be brought to bear on the decision of any great
public question ; and we feel assured that in no insfance were
public interests more efficiensly preserved.
The other clauses will be gone through to-morrow, and the two
other lines will then be taken.

GROUP X.
CAIVIETLIDGE AND LINCOLN LINE.

The Committee met to-day at twelve o,clock, when
Mr. Winberry was calved to prove certain returns which he had
obtained from the Stamp-office on the 7th of June, in reference to
the coach traffic. He read the numbers from a return of a list of
the coaches in the Stamm-office returns of the 31st of May, 1845,
not included in the London and York table. The coaches were
as follows h—One from London to Welwyn ; one from York to
Doncaster, two from Doncaster to Askeon, a distance of six miles
north ; one running two days find another six ; one from Don-
caster to Sheffield ; that went from Doncaster to Bawtery, and
then on by the Sheffield branch ; one from Doncaster to Wake-
field ; two from Lincoln to (lainsborough ; one from Newark to
Stamford; two from Boston to Spalding; this list was made since
the last table was given in ; those last two began in July 1844 ;
none of those were included in the tables already put in ; was quite
sure of that.

Mr. HILDVARD said he asked the latter question, as he
intended to produce evidence to contradict the answer. Wit.
ness then proceeded. The next was a coach from Boston
to Wisbeach ; the next from Boston to New Hol-
land. Is not aware that a Bill has passed both Houses
of Parliament for the formation of a line from New Holland to
Market.rasen. The next was a coach from Lincoln to New Hol.
land; this coach stopped in October last, and began again in July.
The next were two coaches from Boston to Leicester. The next, a
coach from Worksop to Eckington.
Mr. Parks was then called on behalf of the Cambridge and Lin_
coin line to rebut this evidence. He deposed that none of those
coaches were running at the time stated. He found that three
only of them had commenced since April, 1844 ; one began in
June, 1844; one in August, 1844; and one in May, 1845. In the
next instance there were six coaches out of the 17, none of which
were running in May at all, and were not running now at all,
except one, which commenced in June, but was not
running now. Witness had taken all this from the
Stamp-office returns, to which the London and York had
the same access that he had. In the next instance none of
the coaches mentioned by Mr. Winberry were in his (Mr. P.'s)
list. In the next there were two coaches running in September
last, which had not been included in the London and York table;
and he also found two coaches had been put in those tables which
he could not find in the Stamp-office returns. In the
next case the LOndon and Welwyn coaeh was run-
ning in May, but not in June 1844. Did run in
July, August, and September, but not in October, or any other
month of 1844, and performed only three journeys in May, 1845.
The next, that between York and Doncaster, stopped in February
and March, and began in April, and was running in May, 1845.
The next, that from Doncaster to Askerton, that was stopped in
September, 1844; was not running in May, 1845, but began again
in June of this year. The next, another coach on the same line,
was running in April, 1844, stopped in July, and was
running in May, 1845. The next, that from Doncaster
to Sheffield, had been omitted in the London and York
tables, as were also the coaches numbered 8,864, 8,873, and
8,891. The coach from Boston to Spalding stopped in Sep-
tember, 1844, and was not running in May, 1845. The next,
that from Boston to Wisbcach, stepped in January, 1845, and did
not run since. The next, that marked 8,811, commenced running
in April, 1845, and stopped in May; it had not been running
before. Tho.e two marked 8,861 and 8,862 had been omitted
from the London and York tables. The last mentioned in the list
were not running in 1844, but were now.

CLOSE OP THE CAMBRIDGE AND LIN-
COLN LINE.

When the cross-examination of this witness had concluded,
Mr. HILDYARD rose and said he was happy to be able to state
that this long-protracted case had at length come to a close, at
least very nearly so, for he trusted that much addition would not
be made to it by the observations he had to make. He then pro.
ceeded to state the case which he conceived he had made out, and
contrasted it with that of the Loudon and York case.
The Committee adjourned till to.morrow.

I' A T TERSALL'S.—T HIS E VEN ING.
Six o'cLocK.

GOODWOOD STAKES.
14 to 1 agst The Libel
16 to 1 agst Pineapple
17 to 1 agst Pythia
20 to 1 agst Queen I\iab
20 to 1 agst iEgis
20 to 1 agst John o'Gaunt
20 to 1 agst Warp
20 to 1 agst Lothario
25 to I agst Yates
25 to 1 agst Venus

LIVERPOOL CUP.
8 to 1 on the field
ST. LEGEIt.
6 to 1 agst Weatherbit
7 to 1 agst Merry Monarch
8 to 1 agst Mentor
10 to 1 agst Old England
20 to 1 agst The Baron
25 to 1 agst Pantasa
25 to 1 agst Connaught Ranger
25 to 1 agst Kedger

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

(THIS EVENING.)

HOUSE OF LORDS.
ROYAL ASSENT.
The Royal Assent was given to-day to no less than
eighty Bills, among which were the following :—The
Officers' Qualification Indemnity Bill, the Military
Saving,' Banks Bill, the Privy Council Adminis-
tration of Justice Bill, the Maynooth Col-
lege Better Government Bill, an Act to Regu-
la. e the Labour of Children and Women in Print
Works, an Act to empower Canal Companies
to vary their Tolls, the Scotland Fisheries Bill,
the Scotch Heritable Securities Bill, an Act to
amend the Laws enabling Justices of the Peace to
borrow Money on mortgage of the County-rates
in Middlesex, the Crediton Small Debts Bill,
the Battersea Poor-rates Bill, Clerkenwell Im-
prorement Bill, Chester Improvement Bill, the
Claughton-cum-Grange St. Andrew's Church Bill,
the Ctaughton-cum-Grange St. John the Baptist Church
Bill, the Cromer Sea Walls Improvement Bill, the Ches-
ter and Holyhead Railway Bill, the York and North
Midland Railway (York and Scarborough Branch) Bill,
the Manchester, Bury, Blackburn, and Burnley Railway
Bill, the Leeds, Dewsbury, and Huddersfield Railway
Bill, the Dunstable Railway Bill, the Leeds and Brad-
ford (Shipley to Colne Branch) Railway Bill, the Hud-
dersfield and Sheffield Junction Railway Bill, the Becks
and Hants Railway Bill, the Yarmouth and Nor-
wich and Norwich and Brandon Railway Conso-
lidation Bill, the Shrewsbury, Oswestry, and Chester
Railway Bill, the Bedford Railway Bill, the Blackburn,
Darwen, and Bolton Railway Bill, the Monkland and
Kirkintilloch Railway Bill, the Newcastle-upon-Tyne
and Tyneinouth Railway Bill, the Ely and Hun-
tingdon Railway Bill, the Midland Railway Company's
Extension to Nottingham and Lincoln Bill, the Great
Grimsby and Sheffield Junction Railway Bill, the
Hull and Selby Railway (Bridlington Branch) Bill,
the Kendal and Windermere Railway Bill, the
Brighton, Lewes and Hastings Railway Company
(Keymer Branch) Bill, the Wilts, Somerset, and Wey-
mouth Railway Bill, the Manchester and Leeds Railway
(Burnley and Oldham branch) Bill, the Lynn and Ely
Railw..y, the Midland Railway Company (Syston and
Peterborough Br; ne.h) Bill, the Glasgow, Garnkirk,
end Coatbridge Railway Bill, the Whitby and Pickering
Railway Bill, the York and North Midland Railway
(Bridlington branch) Bill, the Newcastle-upon-Tyne
Port Bill, Boddam Harbour Bill, the Southampton Docks
Bill, the Birkenhead Docks Bill, the Wexford Castle-
hill Docks Bill, the Hungerford and Lambeth Suspension
Bridge Improvement Bill, the Clifton Bridge Bill, Stoke-
upon-Trent Market Bill, Glasgow Market Bill, the Pud-
sey Gas Bill, the Devonport Gas Bill, the Plymouth Gas
Bill, the Paisley Gas Bill, the Birmingham and Stafford-
wire Gas Bill, the Taunton Gas Bill, the Scarborough
Water Works Bill, the Southwark and Vauxhall Water
Works Bill, the Huddersfield Water Works Bill, the
Nottingham Water Works Bill, the Newcastle-upon-
Tyne Water Works Bill, an Act to enable the
Shaws Water Joint-stock Company to increase the
supply of water, an Act to carry into effect
au arrangement between the Corporation of the Royal
Naval School and the Committee for managing the
Patriotic Fund, the Newcastle Coal Furn Bill, the Hemel
Hempsted Poor rates Bill, the Standard Life Assurance
Company Bill, the Edinburgh Life Assurance Company
Bill, the North British Insurance Company Bill, the West
of London and Westminster Cemetery Company Bill,
an Act to enable the Master and Commonalty of
‘Vatermen to invest the Endowment Fund of the Free
Watermen's Asylum in the purchase of land, the
Stokenchurch and New Woodstock Road Bill,
the Duke of Argyle's E-tate Bill, Mulyneaux's Estate
Bill, Barrington's Estate Bill, the Leicester Inclosure
Bill, the. Nueingliain Inclosure Bill, and the Spoad In-
closure

The Commissioners were the Lord Chancellor, the
Duke of Buccleuch, and the Earl of Shaftesbury.
The LORD CHANCELLOR. took his seat upon the wool-
sack soon after Five o'clock.
SCOTCH BANKING BILL.
The Bail of KIL'ON moved the third t eading of this
Bill.

The Earl of RADNOR considered the Bill has un-

.4ter,r c-ez, with tits present. iotafraillc sygtera
of banking Scotland, end 1.4. should he glad
o see any • Voble Lora c.oonected • with the
country get up in hia place and defend the
Bill. The object , the Bill, it was said, was to
prevent an increa,e in the number of banks, and
to restrict a paper cue:'ency ; but there was no
necessity for such a mea.‘ure, for within the last
fourteen years the number of :lanks and the anion:it of
paper currency in Scotland had ilerab!y diminished.
The Duke of RIC IaMOND a;.treed with the Noble
Earl that the measure was most objectionable, and un-
necessarily interfered with a system. of banking which
had for years been working successfully in Scotland. •
The Earl of ROSEBERY thought the principle as
well as the details of the Bill were most objectionable,
and if the Noble Lord determined upon dividing the
House, he should certainly say non-content to the third
reading.
The Earl of RIPON defended the measure. Already
restrictions had been placed by the Legislature upon the
Bank of England, and he confessed he could see no
reason why the ram. restrictions 'should not apply to the
existing banks of Scotland.
Lvrd KINNARD objected to the Bill, because the
aversg.s h.l.d been unf.irly taken, and he was quite
certain it would, to a considerable extent, limit the cir-
culation of gold in Scotland.
The Duke of -11UCCLEUCH appproved of the Bill ;
and, so far from thinking it would do any injury to the
existing system of banking in Scotland, he was quite
convinced it would plc.' the banks of that country upon
a more wholesome and firm basis.

After a few words of expl.intion from the Duke o:
Richmond, the Earl :of R •dnor, and the Earl o: Dal
housie, their Lorthhips died d, S hen there app ared—
For the Bill 4"
Against it .
Majority for the Bill
The Bill was then re.-44 a third time and passed.
CHARITABLE TRUSTS BILL.
This Bill was also read a third time and passed.
SANATORY REG ULA'FIONS.

The Marquis of NORMAN BY present d a petition
numerously signed by medical men practising in the me-
tropolis, praying their Lordships to ustablish some sana-
tory regulation .for large towns. The Noble
Marquis expressed Ys regret that the meastrie
announced in the speech from the throne for in-
quiring into the sanatory regulations of large tuwnC,
arid expressed a hope that something would be done
before the next session for establishing some central
machinery fur effecting the object in view.
The Duke of BUCCLEUCII said a Bill had been
prepared on the subject, but the state of public business
in another pliv;e had prevented Government from intro-
ducing it into Parliament.

(LEFT BITTING )

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

The SPEAKER took the Chair shortly before Four
o'clock.

Soon after which Sir Augustus Clifford, the Ushar of
the Black Rod, appeared at the table, and summoned the
House to the House of Peers, to hear the Royal assent
given to several public and private Bills.
The SPEAKER on his return announced that he had
been to the Lords, and had heard the Royal Assent
given to several public and private Bills (fur which see
Lords' t eport).

NEW WRIT-THE NEW ATTORNEY-GENERAL.

A new writ was ordered to be issued for the borough
of Abingdon, in the room of Sir F. Thesiger, who has
accepted the office of her Majesty's Attorney-General.
The reports of the following Bills were then brought
up, and ordered to be committed—namely, the Bermond-
sey Improvement, the Forth and Clyde Navigation and
Union Canal Junction, the Birmingham and Gloucester
(Worcester Branch and Cheltenham Extension) Rail-
way, and the Loudon and Brighton (Wandsworth
branch) Railway.
The following Bills were read a third time and
passed :—The Cockermouth and Workington Railway,
the Wear Valley Railway, the Middlesborough and
Redear Railway, the Wakefield, Pontefract, and Goole
Railway, the Preston and Wyre Railway Branches.
The Lord's Amendments on the following Bills were
considered and agreed to :—The Dundee Waterworks,
the Blackburn Waterworks, the Kendal Reservoirs,
the Manchester Court of Record, the London and Green-
wich Railway, the North British Railway, and the Bel-
fast and Ballynaena Railway.
Mr. OSWALD moved " that in the case of the Glasgow
Junction Railway Bill, a copy of the memorials (if any)
presented to the Board of Admiralty, with reference to
the crossing of the River Clyde, and the reports and
evidence (if any) laid before the Board, or before the Tidal
Harbour Commission, and the minutes of proceed-
ings had thereon, as well as all correspondence between
the promoters or opponents of the Bill, or other parties,
and the Admiralty, on the subject of the proposed cross-
ing of the river by the railway ; and the communica-
tions (if any) which have been made from that Board
to the Committee on the Bill, be laid before this House."
The motion was agreed to.

➢lr. O'CONNELL presented a petition from the
inhabitants of Let ds, complaining of the tyrannical
proceedings of Rosas on account of his interference with
the commerce on the River Plate, South America.