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sent occasion any additional expense. This squadron
was furnished by the usual vessels on. duty. If the
character of this demonstration should by chance be
afterwards changed, and war should break out, he felt
confident that the expense would not be at the charge
of France.
A letter from Oran of the 28th ult., in the Algerie,
gives an account of the arrival in the roadstead of the
squadron commanded by the Prince DE JOINVILLE,
at four in the afternoon, and adds :
" The three ships of the line and the frigate Belle Poule
have on board 700 marines, 208 artillerymen (2 batteries),
and 150 of the 3d regiment of Engineers. Independent of
these troops, there have been organised on board the squadron
four companies for service ashore, each of 150 men, and
which may, in case of need, be increased to 200 from among
the Elite of the crews, making altogether a force of nearly
2,000 men at the disposal of the Admiral, to land in an
instant at any one of the ports of Morocco. The Prince has
also with him M. Lejeune, a naval officer, who has resided in
Morocco, and is well acquainted with its topography and the
hydrography of its shores."
On Friday, at half-past twelve o'clock, the Duchess
DE NEMOURS was safely delivered of a Prince, to
whom tills KING has given the title of Duke
D'ALENCON. The Minister of the Interior and Gen.
ATHALIN, who were at the moment at Neuilly, were
witnesses of the birth of the august infant. At three
o'clock a salvo of artillery announced this happy
event to the capital. The Chancellor of France, and
the Grand Referendary were sent for, and drew up,
in presence of their Majesties and the Royal Family,
the act, stating the Prince's birth. At four o'clock
the KING, the QUEEN, the Queen of the BELGIANS,
the Duchess of ORLEANS, the Princess ADELAIDE,
and the Duke DE MONTPENMER set out for Dreux.
The King of the BELGIANS, the Duke DE NEMOURS,
and the Princess DE JOINVILLE have remained at
Neuilly. The young Prince will be baptised on
Sunday by the Archbishop of PARIS.
The trial of Madame LA COSTE for the murder
of her husband, commenced at the assizes of Ger, near
Toulouse, on the 10th, and excites the greatest in-
terest. The report of the first day's proceedings
occupies ten columns of the Journal des Debats.
THE BOURSE—SATURDAY, JULY 13.
First Highest Lowest Last
ce. Price.
French Five perC3nts IPri22 10 .. 122 10 .. 122 Price. Price. .• 122 05
Four per Cents. ...• • 107 75 • • 107 75 .. 107 75 • • 107 75
Three per Cents.-- 81 80 .. 81 80 .. 81 75 .. 81 75
Bank of Frame, 3030 ..3037 50 .•3030 ..3037 50
Laflitte Bank, I,ooof. Sharesll2o ..1120 ..1120 .. 1120
5,000 f. Sharesso7o ..5070 .. 5070 ..5070
Belgian Bank .. • • •• • • •• •• •• 677 50 .. 677 50 .. 677 50 .. 677 50
Belgian Fives,lB42 •• • • 108} • • 108} • • 108} .. 1081
Spanish Active •• •• • • 31 .. 31 .. 31 • • 31
Passive 5l sit .. 51 51
Neapolitan • • ••• • • 98 65 .. 98 70 98 65 .. 98

Roman ••••••••
RAILWAY SHARES.
St. Germain ......... ..... 888 75 .. 888 75 .. 888 75 .. 888 75
Rouen ....... •• • • 987 50 .. 987 50 .. 987 50 .• 987 50
Orleans ..... ••• • • • 982 50 • • 985 .. 982 50 .. 985
Strasburg to •• • • 237 50 .. 238 75 .. 237 50 .. 237 50
Avignon to Marseilles— • 767 50 .. 772 50 .. 767 50 .• 771 25
RAILWAY SHARES FOR THE ACCOUNT, 15TH JULY.
St. Germain
Versailles, L. 8....... •• • • 246 25 • • 246 25 .• ns .. 245
Rouen
Rouen to Havre
Orleans
Strasburg to 8a1e....
Avignon to Marseilles.... • • 770 .. 772 50 .. 770 . 772 50

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THIS DAY'S NEWS.

MONEY AND COMMERCIAL NEWS.
CITY, QUARTER TO THREE.
The sales of Cotton at Liverpool on Saturday were 5,000
bales at steady prices. The Market was not affected by the
advices per steamer.—Railway Shares were dull on the
whole. The subjoined are the rates :—Eastern Counties, 12 ;
Ditto, Perpetual, 11. 13s. 4d. - Great Western, Half, 79i ; Hull
and Selby, Quarter, 11i ; Liverpool and Manchester, 115 ;
London and Birmingham, 223 ; North Midland, Half, 49 ;
North Union, 93i ; Paris and Lyons, 21.
After all the opposition given to the plan first proposed,
we believe, by the late Lord Sydenham, of making Montreal
the seat of Government for the united provinces of Canada,
people on the other side of the Atlantic begin to think very
generally that this is the best site. A commercial gentleman,
who has very recently visited Canada, thus writes to the
Quebec Gazette :
" It is impossible to see Montreal without being at once
satisfied that it is the centre of a large population, active, en-
terprising, and increasing; there are upwards of six hundred
buildings now in progress; I happened to be in the streets
early and met with whole regiments of masons, carpenters,
painters, and others, going to their work, on new buildings,
which you meet at every step, many of them splendid man-
sions; I have visited all the parts of the town, and saw very
few mean houses; the streets are all macadamized or paved
with wooden blocks, and I found them all clean and in good
order.

I visited the St. Anne's market ; its hall has ceased to be
a market for dead cattle ; it is to be the place of meeting of
our Legislature; the room for the sittings of the Asssembly
is passable, without, however, accommodation for an audi-
ence; the other parts of the building are incommodious, too
small, and quite unfit for the object; it is an affaire manquee,
and the Legislature must come back to Quebec, where the
Members will find a most ample and convenient building,
and the proverbial hospitality of the citizens.
" I visited the Lachine canal ; it has been made a hundred
feet wide, vast works are making for the new leeks at its dis-
charge in the St. Lawrence, and four reservours or harbours
each about a superficial acre in extent. It is navigated by about
28 steam-boats, continually going up and down. (I counted
eleven at the wharfs) besides numberless barges, schooners,
and rafts of timber and saw logs ; the activity and extent of
business going on is really of a bewildering magnitude.
" The shops have a rich and varied display of most costly
objects (canes at 905.), fit for the wants of a rich and ostenta-
tious population."
To the emigrants who have gone, or are about to leave our
shores for Canada, the extract just given contains satisfactory
information. Up to the last dates there had arrived out at
Quebec 443 vessels from this country ; tonnage, 154,856 ;
passengers, 9,369. To the same time last year the arrivals
were, ships, 553 ; tonnage, 199,195 ; passengers, 10,579. De-
crease in vessels, 110 ; tonnage, 44,339 ; passengers, 1,210.
It appears that the objectors to the plan of conversion and
amendment of the old Portuguese bonds, and capitalising the
arrears of interest, are generally coming into the offer of the
Government of Portugal made in the decree stated, the 2d
November, 1840. Up to the end of June last there had
been received at the financial agency of the Por-
tuguese treasury in this city 11,555,752/. ; and
all the bonds representing which have been converted, and
new bonds issued. to the amount of 9,446,7631. 12s. Bd. No
question the arrangement was a most beneficial one to the
financial position of Portugal ; and as respects the foreign
claimants, it is now generally thought that the bondholders
have not had a very bad bargain, that is, if the interest upon
the Converted Stock continues to be regularly paid.
The transactions in the Funds this morning have been to
some extent, and in general the market is firm. The settle-
ment in the Share Market, which took place to-day, caused
money to be rather more in demand, but the rate of interest
is but a shade in advance of what it was last week.
Consols for Account have been quoted at from 99i to 99i;
the Commissioners bought 20,000/. Consols at 991. The
Small Exchequer Bills have been very firm at 76 to 8
premium. Bank Stock at 1991 to 2eo ; India Stock at 284.
The Reduced Three per Cents. Annuities at 1001, and the
Reduced Three-and-a-Half per Cents, at 3 per cent, above
par.
Spanish Bonds have improved a shade on the opening
quotations. The Five per Cents. have just been taken at
224, and the Three per Cents. at 33k. But a shade of varia-
tion has occurred in the other foreign Stocks. Brazilian
Bonds of 1829 and 1839 have realised 81i; the Mexican Five
per Cents., 35; ; the Dutch Two-and-a-Half per Cents., 61i ;
and Russian, 1191.
The London and Birmingham Railway Shares have re-
ceded from 124 to 122 premium. In the other shares the va-
riations have been slight. Banking Shares are unvaried in
value.

BRITISH FUNDS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK.
(From the Official List.)
Bank Stock.. ... « ...........................«...« 199 ' 200
3 per Cent. iftquc'ed. Annuities lOO 34
3 per Cent. Consols. Annuities... ....... 99%
3 per Cent. Annuities, 1726 99
336 per Cent. Reduced Annuities ...........
New 3% per Cent. Annuities...« .-. lOl3. 10236
Long Annuities, Expire sth Jan. 1860..........« 12 9-16
India Stock
India 80nd5,1,000... .... ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• ....
Ditto under 1,000
04
Bank Stock for Account .. 19934
Consols for Open ng ........„....., ....... ........... 993( g
Exchequer Bills, I Nd. 134 d.
1,0001. .....„....».„.».„.. - ««. 7 8 pm. '
Ditto S-rna1r..«•«•.....«•• 1111104•••••••• 78 pm.
Ditto Advertised.... .....
FOREIGN FUNDS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK.
Brazilian Bonds, 5 per Cent. ........... ...........
Ditto for the Account Bl%
Mexican Bonds, 1837, 5 per Cent. ...... S 3 35%
Ditto Debentures
Russian Bonds, 1822, 5 per Cent.--" ...... ....... 119%
Spanish' Bonds. Five per Cent 1840............... 22% Af
Ditto Three per Cent. ..... ••••••••••••«•••••••••••••• 32 33%
Dutch 2% per Cents 6lt y.
Ditto for the Account ..« ................»....„ 61%
Dutch 5 per Cent 5............—............—......« lOl%
PRICES OF SHARES THIS DAY AT ONE.
RAILWAYS. PAID. PER SHARE.
Birmingham and Derby lOO ... t 8 -
Birmingham and Gloucester
Chester and Holyhead 5 3% to 4%4
Dublin and Cashel. 234 4%_. «.. to
Eastern Counties .................«. 23.......,, 12;4%* ... to
Ditto New Registered."... 81. 6s. Bd. ..« 14%
Edinburgh and Glasgow .....«..... 50 .....».. 62%
Great Western ...... ............. ..... 75 12535
Ditto 34 Shares . 5O ..... «.. 7934 -
London and Birmingham lOO 224 to 222
Ditto New Thirds
Ditto % Shares 2 ....... 26 to 25%
London and 8right0n.........,._, 50 •........ 460
Ditto Loan Notes
London and South Western 41%
Ditto Eighth 5..........."," ........ a/
London and Croydon rs%
Manchester and Birmingham .., 40
Norwich and Brandon •••••••••••• 4 . .... ..• 976 •..... to 10
South Eastern and Dover ......... 32% 35% ...... to 36%
Trent Valley ....... ... . .........«.. S ....
Yarmouth and. Norwich
York and North Midland ••....... 50 111...••••• 102 ...«. to
Ditto 34 Shares
25 ••• ..... 5154 •••••• to
Ditto Scarboro' Branch 2)Z
Orleans, Tours, and Bordeaux... 1
Paris and Orleans ....«..... 2O .• . 83(3 •••••• to .... -
MANCHESTER STOCK EXCHANGE, JULY 13.—Our mar-
ket is quiet, and only a small amount of business has been
done. London and South-Western, 82*; Sheffield and Man-
chester, Quarters, 10i ; South-Eastern, 36* ; Huddersfield
and Manchester Canal and Railway, 325. 6d. prem. ; Black-
burn and Freston, 3i; Manchester Assurance, lli.

BOSCASTLE, JULY 12.—The SpriEgflower, from Quebec,
arrived off here, dragged her anchois and went on the rocks,
but has been got off and brought to the back of the quay,
with damage to her bottom.
REDCAP, JULY 13.—The Monica End the Isabella, both of
Rochester, got on the rocks off this port to-day, but have
been got off, and proceeded without assistance.
DEAL, JULY 13.—Arrd. Fawn, South Seas ; Condor, Port
Rico for Bremen ; Hopewell, Hoocason, Jamaica ; John
Gray, Carnaby, New York ; Veracity, Pugwash. Sld. Era,
Cape of Good Hope. 14.—1 t blew a strong gale last
night, and to-day from W. to W.S.W. and W.N.W., but is now,
6 r.x.,more moderate.—The Centuries, for Sierra Leone, has put
back, and has proceeded to Ramsgate with damage, having
been in contact with a brig.
LIVERPOOL, JULY 13.—Arrd. Acadia, steamer, Halifax and
Boston, in nine and a half days, from Halifax.
OFF DUNGENESS, JULY 13.—Zorgoland, Canton, for Rot-
terdam.

PORTSMOUTH, JULY 14.—Wind N.N.W., squally.—Arrd.
Gladiator, London to New York ; Trusty and Seabird,
Quebec. Off, London, New Orleans; Owen Glendower,
London for Bengal.
DARTMOUTH, JULY 13.—The smack John Barrow, of this
port, was run into, and received considerable damage, by the
foreign brig Maria Sophia.

RAJLSGATE, JULY I3.—Arrd. Leopold 1., Antwerp for
Trieste, with damage, having been in contact with a barque
off Dungeness.
DEAL, JULY 14.—Wind strong.—Arrd. St.
George, Demerara ; Imogene, Tagus, St. Lucia; Jean, Christie,
Dominica ; London, Freeman, Jamaica.
HULL, JULY 12.—Sid. St. Spyree and Young England,
Ichaboe.

MARKET NE WS.-(THIS DAY.)

CORN-EXCHANGE-MONDAY.

Although the show of samples of both red and white
English Wheat was small, the demand, owing to the pre-
vailing fine weather, was in a very depressed state, at a
decline on last Monday's quotations of from is to 2s per
quarter. From abroad, the fresh supplies are good, and the
rates suffered an abatement of quite is per quarter. In
Wheat and other articles under lock, rates almost nominal.
The Barley trade, however, was in a very sluggish state,
and last week's prices were supported. Malt at an abate-
ment of is per quarter. Oats at a decline of from 6d to Is
per quarter. Beans declined in value is per quarter. White
Boiling Peas were quite as dear; but other sorts were again
lower. Flour was 2s per 2801bs. cheaper. Seeds at drooping
figures.

CURRENCY PER IMPERIAL MEASURE.
vVaitaT—Essex & Kent, I MALT—Chevalier.....„.. 63s to
red 43s to 53s Okra—Yorkshire and
Ditto, white ... „ 53s to 603 Lincolnth., feed ... 23s to
Norfolk and Lin Potatoe 2ss to
coin, red ...... ...... 403 to 438 Youghall and Cork,
Ditto white 42s to 47s black
Irish, red 47, to 50s, Cork, white
Ditto white
RYE—Old 2&s to 33s Bitaws 'fick 2Bll to 296
New ats to 3801 Pigeons 36s to 39s
BAlLEY—Grinding ...... 23s to 275, Peas— Grey 3os to 34,
Malting
Chevalier„..... ...... .... 32s to 358 White 34s to 39s
MALT—Suffolk and N.
Boilers ........... ..... 32s to 380
folk s6s to 621 fious—Town nude ... 46s to 48,
Brown 506 to 54s Suffo'k 34, to 38s
Kingston and Ware 56s to 62s Stockton & Norfolk 34s to 366
FOREIGN GRAIN AND FLOUR IN BOND.
Wisz.cr-,Dantzic ..„.. 48, to 62sBastss ....... ..... .......
Hamburgh 36s to 40s Pea 5........... ............ 23s to 27s
EARLEY 3OB to 33. FLona American' 23s to 25s
OATS—New
Feed „... 141 to 168
SMITHPIELD.
The Beef trade ruled steady, and in some instances the
quotations were 2d per 81bs higher than were those obtained
on this day se'nnight, the very primest Scots producing 4s
per 81bs. The Mutton trade was steady, at prices quite equal
to those obtained on thjs day se'nnight, the best old Downs
producing 4s per 81bs. No improvement was noticed in the
quotations for Lambs. Calves at barely late rates. The
Pork trade was very dull at our last quotations.
Per Bibs. to sink the offal.
s. d. to s. d. s.d.tos.d.
,
Inferior Beasts 2 4 2 6 Second qualitydltte... 3 2 3 4
Second quality ditto 2 3 3 0 Coarse-woollod ditto.. 3 6 3 8
Prime large Oxen 3 2 3 8 Southdown Wethers 3ls 4 0
Prime Scots, &c.
Large coarse Calves 3 2 210 Large Hogs 3 0 3 6
Prime small ditt0...... 4 0 4 4 Small Porlcers...„ ... 2 8 4 0
Suckling Calves, each 18 0 35 (I Quarter oldPigs,eachl6 0 20 0
Inferior Sheep 2 8 3 6 Lambs 4 0 II 0
SUPPLY AT MARKET.
Beasts. I Sheep, I
Calves. Pigs.
2,604 34,280 ' 154 1 360
NEIXTGATE AND LEADENELALL.
The supplies of Meat killed in the metropolis having been
good, the general demand has ruled inactive. However, the
primest qualities have mostly supported late rates, but the
value of all other kinds has, in some instances, suffered an
abatement of 2d per 81bs. A few carcases of foreign Beef,
bad in colour and condition, have sold only at from 2s 6d to
2s 8d per 81bs.

At per stone, by the Carcase.
Beef, inferior...,,,.,s. d. to 1. d. s. .1. to s. d.
.. 2 0 2 2 Mutton, inferior 2 4 2 6
-- middling ..... .... 2 4 2 6 —. middling 2 8 3 2
--prime large ..... !I 8 210 —. prime 3 4 3 8
-- prime mull ...... 3 0 3 4 Pork, large 2 4 3 6
Veal ........ .............. 3 9 4 2 --small 3 8 4 0
Lamb. 4s Od to 5s Od.
ARRIVALS DURING THE PAST WEEK.
Scotland
Beasts. Sheep. Calves. Pigs.
5 60 se
Yorkshire - 20
Norfolk
Suffolk — 20
Cambridgeshire 8 46 19
Essex lO 54 150 100
Surrey l6 61) 180 260
Devonshire
Wiltshire
Other parts ....................

Total 7l 473
Previous week's arrival

40 561
163 375

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Difference since our last 33 87 286 Its
BOIWITGII AND SP/TA.LPIELDS. -
There are now but very few old Potatoes on offer, yet the
demand for them is in a sluggish state, at from 45s to 80s per
ton. In new Potatoes (the supplies of which are abundant)
a steady business is doing, at from 8s to 16s per cwt.
BOXOTIGH BOP MARXIST.
The supply of Hops on offer is very small, yet the demand
is languid, and prices are barely supported. Some parties
have backed the duty at 145,000/. to 150,0001.
TALLOW BTAILICET.
There is no alteration in this market. Town Tallow is
40s to 40s 6d nett cash, and a good average supply.
WOOL MARKET.
Notwithstanding the large quantities of Wool about to be
submitted to competition this and the following week, we
have to report a very steady demand by private contract, at
somewhat advanced rates.

UNION-HALL.—(THIS DAY.)
Faith Bowerman, a young female, 22 years of age, was
charged before Mr. Cottingham, with the murder of her il-
legitimate child. From the evidence it appeared that the
prisoner had been residing with her brother and sister for the
last three months in the Belvidere-road, Lambeth. On the
morning of the Ist instant, a boy, in the employ of Mr.
Patrick, timber merchant, in the Belvidere-road, found an
infant in the yard dead, and bleeding from wounds on the
head. A policeman having been called, it was Loon ascer-
tained that the infant had been thrown over a ten feet wall,
which divided the house where the prisoner lived from
the timber-yard. Inquiries were made there, and from
the quantity of blood found in the water. closet and other
circumstances, a surgeon was sent for, who prcnounced that
morning, when,
the prisoner hadi been recently delivered of a child ; and she
brought u for examination on
was forthwith conveyed to the Lambeth workhouse, where
she
being considered
uf
the charge.
The surgeon, who was called to examine the body of the
infant, stated that he had no doubt its death was attributable
sfihciasentrleymraeicnoevderuendt, islhtehiws as
to the injuries it received on the head from being thrown from
a considerable eminence. _ _

Tha prisoner, who wept bitterly during the examination,
was remanded until Wednesday, on which day the Magis-
trate expressed his intention of committing her for trial for
the murder.

MARLBOROUGH-STREET.
(THIS DAyo
A young man, dressed in superior style, who gave the
name of John Lee, stated himself to be residing at Bermond •
sey, and in independent circumstances, was placed at the bar
on the following charge :
A foreign young gentleman, whose name did not trans-
pire, but who is at present staying at the Club Hotel, Re-
gent-street, stated that as he was leaving the Haymarket
Theatre on Saturday night, accompanied by some ladies,
whom he was escorting to their carriage, he heard some sil-
ver gingle on the stone flooring of the outward hall, imme-
diately behind the spot on which he was standing. An idea
flashed across him at the instant that he might have been
robbed, and recollecting that he bad placed his purse,
containing both gold and silver, in one of his coat
skirt pockets, he abruptly turned round, and saw the
prisoner close behind him. The prisoner at that time
had his (witness's) purse in his hand, and a gentleman
close to him, took it from his hand and gave it to witness.
The prisoner-was thereupon given into custody ;he made
strong protestations of his respectability,
but they were un-
heeded, and he was locked up. The purse contained a double
sovereign, two sovereigns, a half sovereign, and some silver.
The purse, when found, contained the coins mentioned, with
the exception of two or three of the pieces of silver, which
might have fallen out, as the slide was not put down close on
that side of the purse.
A solicitor appeared on the prisoner's behalf.
Mr. MALTBY asked if the prisoner was known to the police?
Sergeant A 77, who took the prisoner into custody, replied
that he had known him to be the associate of convicted
thieves for two years past and upwards.
)Sir. MALTBY decided to send the prisoner for trial.

EXHIBITION OF A LION AND LIONESS CUB BEFORE
THE COURT.—Mr. Van Amburgh, who had been exhibiting
his extraordinary feats with his collection of trained animals
in the Bachelor's-acre, at Windsor, since the preceding Mon-
day, had the honour of receiving her Majesty's commands to
attend at the Castle, on Thursday evening, for the purpose of
exhibiting before the Court two beautiful cubs, a lion and a
lioness, only a fortnight old, whelped during Mr. Van Am-
burgh's stay at Warminster, on the 26th ult. The period
appointed for Mr. Van Amburgh to be in attendance at the
Castle being the very time that he was engaged in the dens
of the wild animals at his exhibition in the Bachelor's-acre
(at which upwards of 1,500 persons were present). Mr. Wal-
latt, the "Rex Jocundi" of his establishment, had the honour
of submitting these two perfectly docile cubs for the inspec-
tion of her Majesty and his Royal Highness Prince Albert in
the Queen's drawing-room, where also were present her Royal
Highness the Duchess of Kent, the Countess Josephine Wra-
tislaw, Viscountess Jocelyn, Lady Anna Maria Dawson, the
Hon. Misses Liddell and laget, the Earl of Morton, Capt. the
Hon. Nelson Hood, and the several members of the Royal
household. Her Majesty appeared to be much pleased with
the gambols and playfulness of the young lion and lioness.
LIVERPOOL MECHANICS' INSTITUTION.—The di-
rectors of this institution have just issued a prospectus of a
Girls' School, on a large scale, which they intend to open on
the sth of August next. There are already two day schools
for boys connected with the institution, which are attended
by upwards of eight hundred pupils, and whose success has
been even greater than their projectors anticipated. The com-
parative neglect with which female education has hitherto
been treated, and its great importance to the welfare of the
human race, appear to have induced the directors to take the
bold step of establishing a school capable of giving instruc-
tion to four hundred girls, at such a charge as to make it easy
for those who require education most to avail themselves of
its advantages. The course of instruction, as
detailed in the
prospectus, is very comprehensive, embracing little that is
showy and ornamental, but all that in education is solid and
useful. A large, airy building, surrounded by extensive play-
grounds, has been, by the timely munificence of Mr. George
Holt, one of the directors, secured on highly advantageous
terms for the use of the school. There can be little doubt
that such an establishment will not only be successful in
itself, but will, it is to be hoped, have an important bearing
on the cause of female education generally, and set a worthy
example to other institutions.
Mr. Charles Dickens (Bog) has left town with his
ilyt fpr aPnoa, Where ha had taken a house, and purposes
W 11144& ;ultimo Of some mouths' duration in Italy.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

(THIS DAY.)

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at Twelve o'clock.
POOR-LAW AMENDMENT BILL.
On the motion of Sir JAMES GRAHAM, the House
resolved itself into a Committee on the Poor-law Bill.
On clause 36 being proposed, which provides asylums
for the destitute poor,
Mr. CHRISTOPHER complained that the clause was
not sufficiently extensive. lie thought that in every
union workhouse throughout the country there should
be established a vagrant ward for those houseless poor
who move from one place to another, some in quest of
employment, others going to their several parishes. He
thought that in every parish the means should be
provided for supplying those poor persons with a night's
lodging, and at least one meal in the course of
the day, before they proceeded on their journey.
There ought to be a vagrant ward in every union work-
house. It would be a saving of expense to the parishes,
and would save the magistrates the pain of committing
to prison, even for pity sake, unfortunate persons who
were travelling from place to place in search of employ-
ment. These poor persons were, for the most part suffer-
ing every kind of destitution, rather than commit crime.
Sir J. GRAHAM said that the subject alluded to by
his Hon. Friend was not immediately connected with the
clause before the House.---(Hear, hear.) He thought
that there was every reason of humanity and policy in
favour of the establishment of district asylums in the
metropolis, and the five large towns.
Sir C. NAPIER said that, in the two parishes which
he had the honour to represent (St. Pancras and Mary-
lebone) there was no difficulty in any distressed person
obtaining relief at any hour of the day and night.
Sir J. GRAHAM said that, if he wished to refer to
any workhouse for a proof that these asylums were
necessary it would be Marylebone.
Sir CHARLES NAPIER said that last year the Poor-
law Commissioners went over the whole of the Mary-
lebone Union. Ile had also gone over it himself, and he
must confess that he never saw a place better conducted.
Sir J. GRAHAM said that the information he had
received was what had taken place before a police magis
trate and on oath.
Colonel WOOD understood that if a person applied
for relief at a union they were bound to give them a
night's lodging and a meal in the morning. He thought
that was a course that was likely to be greatly abused.
So much had it been abused that now the Commissioners
had ordered that a person having a night's lodging must
be detained four hours in the morning, and have four
hours', work. Now, to the person who was really
a pauper or wayfarer, such a course was
extremely hard. He thought the proper way of treating
the question was, that every person who stated he was
houseless should have a night's lodging in the police sta-
tion.—(Oh, oh.) He was anxious that the clause should
be rejected altogether.
Mr. HAWES entirely differed from the course pro•
posed by the Honourable and Gallant Member
who had just sat down. The object of the
clauses was purely charitable, but he thought they
ought to have more information on the subject before
they passed them. The real question was, whether these
clauses were necessary, or whether, under the authority
of the Secretary of State, sufficient relief might not be
given to the destitute poor without these clauses. The
Poor-law Commissioners themselves regarded these pro-
visions with considerable doubt and difficulty.
Sir J. GRAHAM said he was very sorry that the
Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down concurred
with the lion. Member for Brecon in resisting this
clause. The Hon. Member for Brecon said he thought
that destitution, accompanied with the want of a home,
was prima facie evidence of criminality sufficient to jus-
tify his incarceration in a police-station with criminals.
—(Hear, hear.) In his (Sir James Graham's) opinion
it was much better to provide an asylum for such per-
sons for three or four days than to commit them
to gaol.—(Cheers.) It was indispensably necessary, as
the law then stood, to provide out of the rates for those
who were unable to maintain themselves, for orphan
children, for destitute children, and for the education of
the children of the poor ; and he had yet to learn that
it was good economy to confound all the poor, instead
of making a separate provision for each.—(Hear,
hear.) The necessity of making this provision had
been forced upon his attention by the great
number of persons who had been found last winter in
the metropolis, lying under arches, and in other places,
without any shelter.—(Hear, hear.) Such a state of
things threw a great burden on the more humane portion
of society.—(Hear, hear.) He altogether rejected the
assumption of his Hon. Friend that, because persons
were houseless they were to be considered as
guilty—(Hear, hear)—although by the force of
circumstances the policemen were driven to treat them
as criminals.—(Hear, hear.) He thought that three or
four of these asylums in well-selected localities would
enable the police at once to take such parties to a place
where they would be admitted by the heads of the
establishment at all hours of the night, where they
might remain for 3 or 4 days, and, if they were sick, have
proper attention paid to them. At all events, he was satis-
fied that the duties of Christianity and humanity would be
fulfilled by their sanctioning this arrangement. His
belief was, that they were violated by the existing sys-
tem.—(Hear, hear.) In reference to the question whe-
ther this was recommended or not by the Poor-law
Commissioners, the Holl. Member for Lambeth had re-
ferred to the tenth report of the Poor-law Commis-
sioners. lie begged, however, to refer him to the eighth
report, issued in 1841, from which it appeared that
some such provision was sanctioned by the
Poor-law Commissioners. He did not rest, how-
ever, on their authority alone ; his experience of the
past winter convinced him that some regulation of this
kind was absolutely necessary. He could never dis-
card the considerations upon which the Hon. Member
had dwelt ; he could never forget that many of those
who contributed to the poor's-rate had the greatest diffi-
culty in honestly maintaining their independence, and
bringing up their own families without assistance ; but
he did not believe that under regulations such as those
contemplated by the Bill any extra burden would be
imposed on the public.—(Hear, hear.)
Colonel WOOD explained.
Mr. B. COCHRANE said that the House must have
been delighted with the speech of the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman—(Hear, hear)—and the kindness of feeling it
exhibited. He was also glad that the Gallant Colonel
(Wood) had in some degree explained the most mon-
strous proposition ever submitted to the House--that a
poor person in the last stage of destitution and suffering
was to be taken to the cells of a police-station. Ile
approved of the plan proposed by the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman. He could not see that the new poor law was
much cheaper to the rate-payers than the old one. Under
the old law the rates amounted to 8,000,000/. per annum,
and at present they were 7,300,0001, with a gradual ten-
dency to increase. There had been a great relaxation
of the provision by which out-door relief was forbidden ;
he wanted to know then what the country saved by the
management of the poor-law. In a few years the rates
would exceed eight millions.
Mr. WAKLEY said that the Right Hon. Gentleman
had not overcharged the description of the condition of
the casual poor. Is the present state of the law, there
was great inequality in the amount of relief given to the
casual poor in the different parishes of the same union.
He took the Brentford union as an instance,
where some of the parishes relieved nearly a thousand
casual poor, others only two, and some not a single
one. By the 51st clause this relief would be equally
shared by all the parishes, which would be a great im-
provement. The Right Hon. Gentleman had referred
to the cruel manner in which the casual poor were
driven from parish to parish ; he fully agreed with him
as to the facts, and approved of the establishment of
district asylums ; he believed they would be good insti-
tutions. It appeared the casual poor were not to be
admitted into workhouses after the formation of district
asylums.—(" No, no.") He (Mr. Wakley) would say no
wore then. If there were to be only three or four dis-
trict asylums the poor persons would have to travel a
good distance to get admission ; this he did not think
would be a cure for the present evil, but rather an
aggravation of it.
Sir J. GRAHAM said he used the words three or
four to show that the number of district asylums would
be limited, and not to indicate any particular number.
They would be so arranged that they could be easily
got at, and that the casual poor would know where to
apply.—(Hear, hear.)
Mr. HENLEY thought the question of removal was
so closely connected with the law of settlement, that it
would be better if the power of removal were withdrawn
from the Bill, and allowed to stand over till next session,
when the law of settlement was to come under the con-
sideration of the House. He thought the mischief of
which they were complaining incise from the disputes
between the parish officers and the orders of the Com-
missioners. He firmly believed that the power given
by this Bill would have the effect of making beggars of
the destitute poor.
Mr. BORTHWICK said he would support the clause.
It only provided, for the establishment of asylums in the
metropolis and other large towns. He thought there
ought to be an asylum in every union.
Mr. HAWES asked whether it was compulsory on
the guardians to erect these asylums, because if it were
not, the clause would not remedy the evil, inasmuch as
while the humane parishes would consent to their erec-
tion the careless and indifferent would oppose it.
Reference had been made to the 10th report of the
Commissioners, and also to theBth report on this subject.
He agreed with the recommendation of the Bth report,
which recommended such an attention in the law as
should enforce the granting of relief to the casual poor
whenever and wherever they might apply. Entirely
concurring in the propriety of effecting these objects, ho
could not support the proposed clause, because, he be-
lieved that the Commissioners had, by the existing law,
ample powers for remedying this evil.
Sir J. GRAHAM said that on Saturday, when he
had proposed that this Committee should sit at twelve
to-day, he had entirely forgotten that at two o'clock he
had to attend a Committee of the other House. He
trusted, therefore, the House would excuse him for a
few minutes. With regard to what had fallen from the
Hon. Member who had just sat down, he would ob-
serve that the power and the discretion of the Commis-
sioners were absolute as to the formation of the
districts, that by the 51st clause the relief of the casual
poor was made a union charge and not a parochial
charge, and, as the guardians of these indifferent parishes
would thus find, they would not shrink from bearing
their fair share of the burden, he thought there would
be no practical difficulty in inducing them to consent to
building an asylum ; to the building of which, however,
the assent of the majority of the board of guar-
dians was indispensable. The Honourable Gentle-
man misunderstood him with respect to the quo-
tation which he had made from the eighths report
of the Commissioners-. He had not said that the Com-
missioners bad recommended the establishment of these
asylums. He had quoted the -eighth report to show

that the Commissioners were at that time convinced
that the present mode of the relief of the casual
poor was not a good one. The Honourable
Member for Bridport speculated as to the possible
increase in the expense some years hence. He (Sir J.
Graham) had always regarded the expense under the
new poor•law as one of its most advantageous results.
There had been a saving to the rate-payers, and a better
administration of the law.
Hr. T. DUNCOMBE thought these clauses ought to
be made the subject of a separate Bill. If they were
only to apply them to Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds,
and the metropolis, he wanted to know what they were
to do with Sheffield, Newcastle, and other larger towns.
The people of Leeds had sent a petition against these
clauses, and they complained that if any asylum should
be established in that town, all the poor in the
neighbourhood of Huddersfield and Halifax would be
drawn there.
Sir C. NAPIER thought they ought not to proceed
with this Bill in the absence of every Cabinet Minister
(Sir James Graham had left the House). Ile also com-
plained that many cases of casual distress were not
provided for by this clause.
Mr. M. SUTTON said that the 58th clause applied to
other cases of casual distress.
Sir C. NAPIER said, that as no Cabinet Minister
was present, he should move that the Chairman do re-
port progress.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE thought the Chairman need not
report progress. He would, however, move that this
clause be postponed.
Sir C. NAPIER then withdrew his motion that the
Chairman do report progress.
Mr. 13. DENISON trusted the Committee would do
all in their power to pass the present measure, as every
one of its provisions was calculated to alleviate the con-
dition of the houseless and destitute poor.
Mr. M. SUTTON said that if any great principle in-
volved in the clause was cbjected to, he would not ask
the House to go on with it in the absence of his Right
Hon. Friend the Secretary for the Home Department,
but the clause had been discussed the whole morning,
and he could see, therefore, no reason why it should be
postponed.
Mr. WILLIAMS trusted that his Hon. Friend the
Member for Finsbury would not persevere in his motion
for the postponement of the clause. He thought the
clause had been sufficiently discussed.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE seeing one of her Majesty's
Cabinet Ministers in the House (Lord G. Somerset,
having shortly before taken his seat on the Treasury
benches), would not persevere in his motion for the
postponement of the clause, but he should certainly give
it his most decided opposition.
After some observations from Captain Pechell, Mr.
M. Sutton, Mr. T. Duncombe, and Mr. H. Hinde,
strangers were ordered to withdraw, and the Committee
divided, when there appeared—
For the clause
Against it
Majority for the clause
On the next clause being proposed,
Sir C. NAPIER moved that the Chairman do re
port progress.
Mr. MANNERS SUTTON hoped the House would
not agree to the motion.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said the clause involved a new
principle, and one of great importance.
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