The Sun.
London, England, 1844-02-20 00:00:00

DERBY.

10 to 1 agst Forth's lot •
13 to 2 agst Mr. John Day's The Ugly Buck
7 to 1 agst Mr. Crockford's Rattan—taken
15 to 1 agst Col. Peel's Orlando—taken freely
18 to l agst Lord Maidstone's Cockamaroo
18 to 1 agst Mr. Lichtwald's Leander
25 to 1 agst Mr. Bowes's T'Auld Squire
33 to 1 agst Peel's lonian—taken
33 to 1 agst Mr. Watts's Voltri
33 to 1 agst Mr. A. Wood's Running Rein
33 to 1 agst Sir G. Heathcote's Campunero
40 to 1 agst Mr. Quin's Loadstone—taken freely
40 to 1 agst Mr. Payne's Vat colt
40 to 1 agst Mr. Quin's nd. Foig-a-Ballagh—taken freely
50 to 1 agst Mr. J. Osborne's 11Iount Charles—ditto
50 to 1 agst Sir R. Bulkeley's Bebington
1000 to 10 agst Lord Westminster's Lancet—taken
400 to 100 agst The Ugly Buck and Orlando—taken
1000 even between Johnny Broome and Sister to Grey
Momus colt
1000 even between Beaumont and Sister to Grey Momus c.
1000 even between Boots and Sister to Grey Momus c.
We have reported the highest offer against the Ugly
Buck, but as no one showed any disposition to support him,
and as an offer to back Rattan against him for 500 even was
not accepted, we do not hesitate to divest him of the pre-
miership ; the quoted odds were taken about the new leader,
but, judging from what came under our notice, not to any
serious amount. Leander was named at 18 to 1, but not
backed, owing no doubt to the numerous inquiries about his
companion, Foig-a-ballagh, on whom we saw at least 2001.
laid out at 40 to 1 ; his opponent, however, maintained his
ground to the last. Loadstone came again, and Campunero,
with plenty of friends, advanced from 40 to 33 to 1. In
other respects the betting, although extremely animated for
an hour or two, elicited nothing worthy of observation.

OAKS.
8 to 1 agst Mr. 'orth's lot.
10 to 1 agst Lord Chesterfield's The Bee
17 to 1 agst Lord Stradbroke's The Boarding School
Miss (Marpessa filly)—taken
30 to 1 agst Lord G. Bentinck's All-round-my-Hat—t.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

ROUSE OF COMMONS, Feb. 19.
IRELAND—ADJOURNED DEBATE.
Mr. JOHN O'CONNELL said that the Catholics of
Ireland were satisfied with their priesthood, whom they
loved and revered, and who were worthy of their love
and reverence.—(Hear, hear.) He challenged them
to show any priesthood so pure in every act, so
devoted to their religious duties, such admirable
ministers of religion. The Hon. Gentleman said that
the Catholic religion was a monarchical religion. In his
opinion, it would be more correct to designate the reli-
gion to which the Hon. Gentleman belonged as a mo-
narchical religion, because the Sovereign was at the head
of it. They accounted it one of the proofs of the divine
origin of their religion, that it perfectly adapted itself to
every phase and state of society which existed. It was
under the fostering care of that religion that Belgium was
working out a spirit of rational liberty, and they looked to
it as the religion which would supply the elements of
order against the wild outpouring of irregular liberty
in North America. It was that religion which resti ain-
ed the people of Ireland under excitement, and enabled
them patiently to bear distress and poverty. It was that
religion which instilled into the people those sentiments
of liberty
„which he trusted would ere long have fruit in
the prosperity and legislative independence of the country.
He had not risen with the intention of answering the
Hon. Gentleman on the other side. He had risen as
one of those who in an early part of the debate had
been styled convicted conspirators.---(Cheers.) He did
not acknowledge the justice of that designation unless
it could be considered as a conspiracy for
men to labour to their utmost to discharge
the duty which they owed to their country—(Cheers)—
which was the next in importance to that which they
owed to their God.—(Loud cheers.) As one of those
convicted conspirators, he rose to speak, perhaps, his
last words in that House—to make his parting declara-
tion before he returned to Ireland, to meet and
to incur the vengeance of the Right Hon.
Gentlemen opposite.—(Cheers.) He said to incur their
vengeance, for he should continue to exert him-
self with as little ability perhaps, but with more ar-
dour and zeal than ever, to incur their vengeance, by
exerting himself in the cause of his country.—(Cheers.)
He did not rise for the-purpose of offering any apology,
or urging anything in palliation of that for which he,
amungst others, had had the honour of having been con-
victed. If he urged anything on that point, it would
only ke to call upon every man in Ireland, who had not
yet joined the repeal movement, to act as he (Mr. J.
O'Connell) and his companions had done—(Cheers)—
to devote their liberty, their property, and if necessary
their lives, as he and his companions had done and were
ready to do—to restore legislative independence
to their country, which was her inalienable right. He
would ask the people of England what after all had been
secured by the course which Ministers were pursuing?
What had they gained by their victory?—(Cheers.)
Had the cause of the repeal of the union received a
check ?—(Cheers .) On the contrary' e firmly believed
that two or three years.of the. most active agitation
could not have given that -cause,: the--firm hold on the
minds of the people wl4chtlis pros_eciition had given it.
—(Loud cheers.) They 14in4 11,,, 43y !that prosecution
strengthened the connexion- between the two countries.
He believed that if the'connexion between the two
countries were based upon firm and equitable principles,
and the people were placed upon a perfect equality, it
would tend to the prosperity and welfare of both.—
(Cheers.) He spoke not from any personal considera-
tions. If he spoke from any personal considerations, he
should ask that the heavier weight of punishment should
fall upon him who was young and better able to bear it,
than upon one who was not so well able to bear it on
account of his years, and his immense labours in the
cause of his country.—(Loud cheers.) But as a friend
to the connexion between the two countries,
he regretted the course which the Government had
pursued, as tending to weaken that connexion. The
people of Ireland had been taught last year, in that
House, that they had nothing to hope, either from the
Government or from the House. They had been in-
formed, not by one who spoke merely as an individual
Member of Parliament, but by the Right Hon. Gentle-
man the Secretary of State for the Home Department,
—(Loud cheers)—that concession was at an end in
Ireland.—(Loud cheers.) What course did the people
of Ireland pursue in answer to that insulting declara-
tion ? Did they have recourse to violence ? No.—
(Loud cheers.) They betook themselves to constitutional
agitation.—(Cheers.) They attended what had been
called multitudinous meetings, at which might be seen
hundreds of thousands of poor men, sweating under a
sense of their wrongs—(Hear, hear)—ground to the
earth by the tyranny of their landlords—(Hear, hear)
—but one degree removed from absolute want—(Hear,
hear)—meeting peacefully, legally, and constitutionally
—(Cheers)—to listen to the advice of those who told
them to avoid every breach of the laws of God or man
—(Loud cheers)—to commit no violence, but to trust
to the powers of the Constitution, and to the efforts which
were made, peacefully and lawfully, to obtain redress.—
(Cheers.) The good order which had been maintained
at those meetings had been.confessed by all. A high
authority in Ireland had said, that those meetings must
inevitably tend to outrage. Forty of those meetings
had been held, and no outrage had been committed, ex-
cepting the destruction of a gingerbread stall, if that
could be so denominated. Not a single accident had
happened.—(Hear, hear.) Females had mixed in those
meetings unhurt.—(Hear.) He had himself seen the
Hon. Member for Cork dragged up the hill of Tara by
the efforts of the people, rather then by Those of the
horses' of his oarriage ; and there were young mothers
there, who were as safe and as kindly treated as if they
had been by their own firesides. It had been asked in
that House why, instead of resorting to those meetings,
they had not come to Parliament ? What hope could
they have from Parliament, when they had been told
that concession had reached its limits ?—(Cheers.) But
an Hon. Member had appealed to the House for them.—
(Cheers.) The Hon. Member for Limerick, one whom
he was proud to call his friend, because he had showed,
and was showing, himself the true friend of his oppressed,
fallen countrymen, had made an appeal to that House.—
(Cheers.) And what had been their answer ?—(Hear,
hear.) He had asked merely for inquiry ; that inquiry
had been refused by. an overwhelming majority—
(Hear)—and that majority had been taunted by their
base and infamous press, because they had extended to
his Hon. Friend the common courtesy which was due to
every gentleman, of listening to him.—(Loud cheers.)
What had been the course which they had pursued in
Ireland ? They had allowed those meetings -to go on,
and when the eleventh hour had nearly elapsed, then
came out the proclamation against the meeting at
Clontarf. With respect to that proclamation he
found it difficult to speak with anything like
temper, even after this space of time had elapsed. At
the time of the occurrence he certainly thought
that those who originated that proclamation were
murderers in intention. Since that time he had
laboured, and he hoped, not unsuccessfully, to abandon
altogether the belief that, among Christian men,
there could be found those who could entertain so fiendish
an intention. But ifthey had intended to cause a massacre
at Clontarf, they could not have gone a better way
about it. 'I he Right Hon. Secretary of State had said
that that proclamation was posted up at three o'clock in
the afternoon. He had no doubt that the Right Hon.
Baronet believed such to be the fact, but he
had been grossly misinformed. That proclamation was
not in the hands of the Lord Mayor of Dublin till
four o'clock, and it was not posted in the
village of' Blackrock, near which he resided, till
it was too dark for it to be read.-
-(Loud cries of "Hear, hear.") The late Mr. Tyrrell
lost his life in consequence of the late hour at which
the proclamation reached his parish, which was
in the vicinity of the place of meeting. He
was obliged to leave his bed—to expose himself
to the weather, and contracted the mortal dis-
ease, of which he died, in endeavouring to save his
parishioners from the hazard which they would other.
wise have incurred. In spite of all their efforts
an enormous crowd did assemble at Clontarf, though, of
course, it was much less than it would have been.
It had been said by the Noble Lord opposite that Mr.

O'Connell ought to have gone out to the ground and
.
tried the legal question as to whether the Government
had a right to stop him or not. He did not think the
Noble Lord had reflected well when he stated that. He
believed it was the advice of a paper which supported
the Government in Dublin. Had Mr. O'Connell gone
out with that excited multitude, what chance was there,
when the crowd was brought in contact with the sol-
diers, of escaping a tumult. It only required one evil-
disposed person to show a stone, and the most serious
consequences would have ensued. With regard to the
prosecutions he should not speak of them—he left
them to others, if from no other reason, yet from this,
that he despised them too much.—(Hear.) He should
not dwell on the fraud and chicanery which marked
them, or the names omitted from the jury-lists
for which, though the Attorney-General W 8
not to blame, he had not scrupled to avail himself of the
omission. With respect to the men who composed Or
jury, he did not mean to say that they were men capable
of violating their oaths. He believed their verdict was
given with all the sincerity and honesty of inveterate
prejudice and bigotry.—(Loud cries of " Hear, hear.")
It was for those who chose this jury to account for the
manner in which they had chosen it. They had struck
off the extreme men of one side, who were supposed tO
be favourable to the accused, and selected men who were
known to be most unfavourable to the accused- Most
of those persons had been born and nurtured in the most
inveterate prejudices against the principles and persons
of those whom they were called upon to try. Let any
one go into the Dublin booksellers' shops, and there
they would find books for the education of young
children filled with ten thousand exploded calutenies
against the Catholics of Ireland and their religion"-,
(Hear, hear)—and when the youthful mind was so poi"
soned, it was no wonder they should be bigoted, nar-
row-minded men.—(Hear, hear.) He came back to the
question he had originally intended to put. What re°
had these State prosecutions done ?—(Hear, hear.)
Would the people of Ireland be more attached to the
union, because the lives of the people were jeopardised
by the manner in which the Clontarf proclamation was
issued ?—(Hear, hear.) It had been said by the Noble
Lord, the Secretary for Ireland, that the issue of thee
proclamation had been agreed upon on Friday night, but
it was deferred until Saturday afternoon, in order O
word it properly. Now, when the lives of so mans of
her Majesty's subjects were perilled, he did think the
Privy Council might have delayed their sitting on Yrji
day night until they had written it. Anything low
have been better than the mere possibility of such all °c".
currence. A rumour was prevalent in Dublin which be
would not mention—but yet he thought it better to do S'
to show in what condition the minds of the peoide
Ireland were. He hoped the rumour was not true--he'
was ready to disbelieve it. It was said that two Mete"
bers were to be found on that Council—and he would saY
that neither of them was the excellent and gallant gen-
tleman who commanded the forces in Ireland—that
two members of the Council suggested that the ;
hun-
dreds of thousands might be allowed to assemble a;
Clontarf, and when the excitement was at the highest
pitch that troops should be poured in, the Riot ,
read, and, if they did not disperse in fifteen minutes, 1,
disperse them at the point of the bayonet.—(Hear,
It might not be true, hut such was the impression that
was prevalent in Dublin. He would he hap to beli
this rumour denied upon authority. Wou d all the
make the people more attached to the union--Gear'
hear)—because their rights and liberties were hourly
placed in jeopardy?—(Hear, hear.) Would they
more attached to the union, because they saw the Inerea
(and this was a question which might be better ass.„
by any other than himself)—because they saw the te";
whom they loved and revered, and who had
Vie,
for forty years their champion and their P
condemned and waiting for his sentence ?—(Chitt
The Right Hon. Gentleman opposite had told them o'l'
it was his intention to bring in some very good mom,
sures. Perhaps it was. But the Right lion. Gend
of
man did not need him to tell him that the people
Ireland distrusted him—(Cheers)—and it would to,_
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great deal to convincethem that he was in earnest wts
he said it was his intention to amend the franchise. .J. 70
franchise was a very good thing; but of what use
the amendment or the extension of the franchise w7tep,
they who were one-third of the empire possessed o,,aa
one-fifth of the representation?—(Hear, hear.) He
s.ch
heard a good deal said about the small proportion wolo
the Irish paid to the taxation of the empire. Thet„*L.
not the time to go into the discussion of a mere tniees
rical question, but he did not hesitate to say, and gibe
tlemen opposite knew it well, that Ireland paid in
proportion of three to four in the taxation of the einPti,
and yet her representation was in the proportio)
of only one to four of Great Britain.—(Cheery
Honourable Gentlemen talked of a gib
for education, and if they were prepared to act in g
faith, they would confer a great benefit upon the °utile
try; but why did they not do something to improve it
material condition of the people—(Hear, hear)--wilat,
was well known in the history of human nature ! are
as men improve in their physical condition, theYse
desirous to educate their children and elevate .thew hs
their own condition. They talked, also, of amelioratams
the relations between landlord and tenant. Here the!,
had touched a most delicate and dangerous subjeet'eds
(Hear, hear.) Be had received many htn cs.
of letters, addressed to him by persons
hopes or fears had been extravagantly excited bY .nda
present Commission. So maddened had their
s.
been by the evils and oppressions of the existing side
tern, that it wctuld be very difficult indeed to Pers.-- et
them in the end _that the Commission was Ito
a mockery and a delusion. Manyf those w •
o us
had been ejected from their holdings weresheir
fond hopes that they would be restored to
tiair
land ; whilst those who had superseded them it►
farms, were under the equally dangerous in:loll-air
that they might be turned out to make room for „sod
predecessors. Some might say that it was verY e'rons
for the people to entertain such ideas ; but the PFa rise
who said so had little notion of what thoughts svni •r,
in the minds of men writhing in the depths of derrealolc
Did they wish to see a mad and universal out
shaking the whole framework of society in Ireland. 44
(Hear, hear.) He trusted that they would, at any psis
endeavour to deal efficiently with that danger.
„roof:
who were in the power of the Ministry. did jet
supplicate their mercy.—(Hear, hear.) But
thesa
-
them turn to the condition of Ireland. Let
eel
adopt some measure which would bring back the
of Ireland to Ireland, and open up her resourcue:•
try
(Hear, hear.) There were drains from that e°,lore
under which no country ever yet prospered.
bout a
were nearly five millions of absentee rents. 1' 0%-
million was shared from the reduced governmental
penses of that country. There were in all fiv,e, or
millions drained from the country—a sum wn'eb oesl
ceeded her total contributions to the revenue. 'P'xi'sh
deal was said about the impossibility of drawing he,e'ges
capital into Ireland. He believed that that was ,e cases
ther a fallacy. But, even supposing it to be tusetheus
let them adopt some measure which would give 0 for •
the use of their own capital.—(Hear, hear.) It W.howa
them to say whether the present state of thine„ttitieS
go on, or whether they would boldly meet the aln:i; waf
of Ireland. He did not wish to say anything in t'„e of
of menace, but he would ask, what had the Pent:og
Ireland to attach them to English connection ? , Last
was there in the tyranny which they now endureas
exceeded any which they could suffer un,4erthe
reign power ? He would not say anything in thoug
of menace ; but he would ask whether, even fa hate
some of those reverses to which nations as ije hoe
were subjected, came upon them, was it well ,eut
one-third of the empire in permanent discon' waren
(Hear, hear.) Was it well to be accumulating stor-
9gainst themselves when they might heirelat4
ing up love ? Was it well to have oar
a miserable slave, instead of having her 5 The
ful and loving sister and friend ?—(Hear, heer'cssioa*
people of Ireland had never yet received any COn it ten-
or any real kindness without labouring to pa_YGetale-
fold. " Try it with them again," said the 11°"ii ha°
man, " you will find the same disposition as t you
always shown.—(Cheers.) I tell you that astir-
conciliate Ireland, not at any period of your P_'`,„„sitY
for —not in your wildest imaginations of the 10°,40if as
of England, will you arise to such a pitch °Lii.F: she is
when you shall make Ireland your friend• jnistrf
willing to be conciliated. I call upon the isou otioste,
call upon this House—l call upon the Eaglinralan°
to make the experiment.—(Cheers.) Be just tice_saon:
and fear not ; be unjust--continue your ininstio uP°L's`
tinue your tyrannies—continue your insults-1 beers.)
your heads be the fatal consequences.e___(Loua serf
Colonel YERNER said that he knew Irele',l.es the
twithst°ll6l %pie
well, and he regretted to say that no
to the Pea, b
numerous concessions that had been made
of Ireland, they were still more estranged frz each
cther—Protestant from Catholic—than he l4 such!!
known before. He would ask the Noble Lord be al
state of things as he had just described should ,__ Prot;
lowed to continue ? On a recent occasion 7,0
testants of the North of Ireland had, when eN Kalif
a their by
more than ordinary difficulties, displaye- to theta be
in casting aside the blandishments held out
na_cie by the
the Repealers. According to the statement
(Cowanvernelei
lion. Member who had just sat down, he
nrw made
understood that the great complaint
with regard to the late trials, whiCath°lsicsa
whetee-
been put upon the jury—but, he would
ask, s dutY, e°-ld
It
officer of the Crown, in the dischare of his y ?
have placed avowed Repealers ing that po._ nepeal
had been proved beyond all doubt that the by the
was, that no
a°,inu'cathoh
movement was an emphatically Cathnoloicin
mere fact of the great body of the
agitation, and II the
clergy to a man joining in that agir made to theireel
frequent appeals which Mr. O'Connell made
Be (co obod
gious feelings of the peasantry of Ireland-
Ribbolottlicase-
Verner) knew a case himself where
a id,
been put upon his trial and twice acsku tte
that indivi
the
"
quence of one juror holding out, a
belonged t°
juror eventually was found to have
settee
Ribbon conspiracy. had the el°t/u
Captain LAYARD wished that be _el Learnede
Member for Dungarvon, in his late appeal which was displayed by the Right Hon.
then lie - hicis
Court of Queen's Bench in Ireland, andfore
their uesl
taherY4hcatld
have been enabled to bring vividly before sou
to
the result of his observations whilst
oic
with his regiment in Ireland ; he shouldb tile
the P°°r °obi°
generosity, the charity displayed Y , .sh twit
jos
porer, and the cheerfulness with ine A v
hearted people submitted to most Pwreoe°
tions. It had been asked by Hon. Gen
un
tlenleiite;lfr.nrthitct
of Iron" yous
it would tend greatly to the benefit t
n that e-
what would benefit Ireland ? 'To that he shoidd2d'eVeseri
Hon. Gentleman before he took his seat • exp
ceso toa
In the .ear -I us'.
was to visit Ireland, and observe from 03-w_
rience the state of that country.
regiment was stationed in Cork, and his deef titl
sent to protect the proctors in the collection
and
A collision ensued between the people a the were •
sn, 're
orders were given to fire, and several men wen aliete,
He passed the barn where those slaughtered
nances4ing aonfdthife d rstan-, to
the wailings of the women, they could _ hica ten
hags, a little better what were the causes w
Hmoenn.lnGarenkteldembeynsuwielerne
dteospsa7r,etahnedctaontiheearf