The Sun.
London, England, 1845-05-06 00:00:00

THE SUN, LoNnpN, TILESDA EVENING, MAY 6 184,5,

RAILWAY rOM ITTE

(YESTERDAY.)

Group DD.
GLASGOW AND EDINBURGH RAILWAY (F. RANCHES
TO ALLOA AND STIRLING).
Mr. AUsTIN (in continuation from our Afternoon Edition of
yesterday) contended that the principal question for the
Committee to consider would be one of comparison between
tee) lines to the north by the Edinburgh and Glasgow Corn.
Pant, and the proposed line to the south. The opinion ex.
Prctby the Board of Trade on this matter was en.
titled to considerable respect. The principal point to be
dwelt on was, which Company shall have authority to make the
line to Stirling. He would willingly concede that it was necessary
to construct a line to Perth, and it was not very material who should
have Power to make it. His present application rested entirely
uPoti the formation of the line to Stirling; and he would show to
the satisfaction of the Committee that the Edinburgh and Glasgow
Company had the most unqualified right to form it. The decision of
the House of Commons, which had been subsequently confirmed
bl the report of the Board of Trade, distinctly pointed out that
the extension of any independent line would be inexpedient if an
original line existed from which branches and ramifications might
be extended, as its construction would tend to divert the course of
traffic from the principal line. He instanced the Leeds and Nan.
,_chesrer Railway and other lines, being similar cases, in substan.
..`"ititet of the course generally pursued by Committees. The
.Vitae in the districts through which the Scottish Central Railway
i:bld Pass would be much more conveniently worked by the
sur:niatbcihyess from the Glasgow and Edinburgh line, and the point of.
ren at Stirling, as proposed by that Company, was immea-
uPerier to any other that could be shown. Stirling
both
With respect to its numerous population and the great extent
1 ts.sni--.... w,as..the best place for a central general terminus.
An extract from the population returns would show th-:, the
3)ll°Th
... er of inhabitants in the districts of the Forth
itcreased in the course of 40 years ...Kt Clyde had
from 660,000
.r_ 4300000 so that the -
mint '
Wed. The total populatie• emulation had exactly
........ ent census was 2,0
the pre, .
P.:.,.000,., of Scotland according to
and of this number more than
iztc,o.a_ If was found i-.
the districts he had alluded to. Industrial
' rtY prover, - ,
Forth er . -.at to a grea er extent in the neighbourhoods of the
to
--o Clyde than in any other part of Scotland. Ail these
bu'llderatiorls pointed out S. ir:mg as the principal central point,
.---' the general point for ail the railway communication
,0 the gtmer
Scow.), Part of Scotland. The returns of the traffic of the
te., -e, Central Railway tables showi a a comparative average of
'"° Desserigers and two too: from Perth to Stirling to one pas-
t.erixe,
Itaiiw-a and one ton from Stirling to the Edinburgh and Glasgow
7. and the portion of the traffic to be conveyed
.17,,_•"011 branches vi as as two to one in their. favour.
calculations that had been made by the Scottish
s'c'
`goal Company in estimating the traffic had been
greatly- ex-
atod. The difference, from their own showing, between
the ."rhl E linburgh was as 9,000 to 30,000. He submitted that
b 3 I,"olnburgh and Glasgow Cempauy, as an existing line, ought
bill; are the preference in electing to make the propesed
seed ehes. when compared witli the meagre pretensions of a new
itey ;t'dePencent company. Stirling was the point which naturally
e'"ed itself as the point of railway communication for the
tvi°,strY. and two boards of management on two compering
were
Public. le incompatible with the interests of the
ao.uld wow allude to another important
feature for the Como.ittee to consider, viz., the construction of
The distahcetrom Edin urgh to Stirling by this
braZanch '‘toeA :O.
tentrhe w°ulid, be 37 ii miss. By the line proposed by the Scottish
idei, I the s"stanee between these two places would be 364. He
corieeted that his line was somewhat longer, but this trifling in-
vir nience was more than compensated for b. the superior ad-
t‘2,trt it held out f.r the public convi nience. The Esarned
ior l'.. I then dwelt at considerable Leigth on the imporance
itoolso__;tlee."yrararle oitoitrthgativrhiniengeeantranlewst. lion at Stirling, and the im -
and independent company the
13 uninterrupted control over all the present
re for developing the whole of the northern traffic. He
tilishededchiaft" address by submitting to the Committee that an es.
etneen,.i
a_ParlY who had expended so much capital for the
nag u ac-
zteirton of the public ought to have the liberty of establih-
tacrl here
trpartnoposed branches, and, by them, of controlling the
The room •
,___ was then ordered to be cleared. On our return,
:haiemt:rcugitilsramen Stated that the Committee had come to the
Way Bli,
.s. conclusion, in consideting the Scottish Central Rai,.
er,dl„ 's Etat the preamble had been moved. With regard to the
Glasgow Bill, that part of the preamble
1P%,,Z Promoted the construction of a branch from Stirling to
I ad rioasndbeen
proved. The Committee considered, al te
st.r. respect of the Scottish Central Railway, that it was not at pre.
wo"u'id
bvisable that Perth should be made a central station. It
it;")tel:: edra'eteioftnsall that some subsequent arrangement should be
into with the other companies, in order that their mutual
might be considered, but that the Scottish Central
rlon os3;he?M'anY Would be at liberty to proceed in the construe-
in
mu:lr worla until such arrangement was satisfactorily made.
Irlit to , q to a question by Mr. Clerk, whether the South Inch
~.... .4 the locus of the station,
thi." CRAIRMAN said that a special clause having reference to
cbw:Uld be introduced into the Bill ; and he referred him to the
hoes, and Holyhead Bill for a precedent by which he might
OW ro roc a
, ~,_uses ee .
with t,:_ were then proceeded with, which were all passed
eid.....7 exception of those relating to tolls and stations, the con-
. Lion _ ..
Air. . of w tuch was ordered to be adjourned.
behalf
oNntews then proceeded to address the Committee on
1a31,,,,,f,!}" Caent,sie and other branches of the Edinburgh and
only slat 'YU', but as the preamble of these, Bills are ueopposed,he..
Nies i,.,ed, their general outline. The Camp.ie branch was five
5e5,,,,,,t' ngth, and would cost 42,0001, and passed th-ough very
iona, rt., agricultural districts; there were also four small subdivi.
land hail€s, one of which in its.ramifications would join, the Monck-
Glasgow WaY, and the other would
proceed from the Edinburgh and
Liar ' and combine with the Monckland Railway
''as al,:
eacceoinepaalnlesd Claddens. An important alteration
.
would , ntem ' P.ateci being made in the station at Glasgow,
.which
Mr,accommodlttile"the
depot fur" it!ot,P.:.
pttrvtevyaosrtso. form an adertional
delice e2I4IEWs then proceeded to call his witnesses, whose ecvvie.
tie. advert to confirm the statements he had made, and to prove
branci,antages which would result to the public if the proposed
ltitltf,rw. ,re Permitted to be made. .
Th,
ontsairridel.rlaesti,omf toil:, Bois were admitted to have been proved.
was postponed, and the corn. i
e adJournee till twelve o'clock to-morrow !

Group I.
havlazl.,ylr.n anti
teonti.med from Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) ....l.'s".
our .
Ely Tim was recommitted ; and the Committee
Ki,,urenedi Used the several elau,es in the 1311, the Committee

Group 11.
WEST YORE:bi--HE& LINES.
(Continuer) fruin ',lc A, ~..-.:ii Editit,:; of yesterday.)
me. Brown of Halifax Rave eemenTrent testimony.
Mr. John Abbott, of lialh.jt, 14tated that, in 1836, the Lem!,
and Manchester Company, pledgcd themselves to make a branch to
Halifax, but it was not,
until 1843 that they tulfilled their pledge.
Mr. James Stead, proved that the Halifax branch was exccedinglY
defective.
Severe'
Bi . other witnesses gave similarevidence.
—. John Billing, agent to the llochoale Canal Company, proved
.rt•• hi the Calder and Hebble Canal Company was under the control
efthe Leeds and Manchester Company.
Mr. H. Stanstield, of Leeds, gave evidence in favour of the
Preamble to the Bill.
The Committee adjourned at Fite o'clock.

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Group 00.
.._ This Committee commeliced its sittings at 12 o'clock to chy in
'`ene. ra 17. Presetit—The Right Hon. H, Labouchere, Chairman,
..`r* Divett Viscount In ere Mr Lindsay, and Mr. G. W. The Bills and ideneage.
' Projects referred ito *the Committee are the Hull
slid
(Bridlington Branch), York and Scarborough Deviation
„_""waY, York and North Midlatid Railway (Bridlington Branch),
-ad wh
The
cobs and Pickerington way.
the
efts mammas said it was almost unnecessary for him to call
arm, nt2" of the patties to the rule of proceeding in the
,eoe.rtheo :co:tree ttheeatililts
them.
projects before them, No dootathey
The Un4el and agents agreed to the Chairman's suggestion.
t
_matlie,' Bill called on was
This, WHITBY AND PICKERING RAILWAY.
in, in, Its;tw' a Bill for authorising the sate of the Whitby
kr
etuebl' al
r(' the York and North Midland R.Alway. Compairi}it,akaletnerdi
44,ilei ~"!he said Company to make certain deviations o
I'Alr, 't,- the title of the Whitby and Pickering Railway
'learure 'firilll.!.% appeared as agent. for the Bill. He had great
`u the ~,,,,... 'worming the Committee that there was no opposition
Mr' hicTure.
called
to ard'un, the solicitor to the Bill, was the first witness
Pewe,.eo . Pubsin the Acts of Parliament by which the line was em-
le., li constructed.
'The ud'un was then called to prove the preamble.
IThich venir""AN----Are you the chairman of the Compranlyidito..
soh .- -u Propose to sell the present line of Railway ? M: .
..._ --, ae.,
zectlted , • At present the %Vhitby and Pickering Railway is
it ~, , Lie horses. It is not adapted to the traffic of, the lined.
Ilelc°:;,shi,:be Of great advantage to the public if the Vi.hithy an,
a see-"'eine were unitedwith the Pickering branch of the York
line nail)°, r Railma The proposed 'deviations of tee AN hitt)),
dvat,,-01c1 be of the greayiest convenience. To carry out full tthae
Stetlon.6s of the present Bill it would be necessary to construe
This with approaches, in the parish of Whitby.
.11 was
the ease for the preamble.
el„.._
.7 t;tratelt„
having put the question, the preamble was de-
el,r;lct to be proved.
Of the eittuses were then gout into and passed, with the exception
tee relating to the rates and tolls, which were adjourned for
Ili_ croonsideration.
tilg ire_ P Teter. propose, that for coal, lime, culm, stone, waste,
ehe
sta:. Minerals, bricks, tiles, slates, metallic ores, and P
coke ~,,ef ad. per ton per mile shou:d he charged. For corn, Bout., tte4e-"iire°alt bar and hoop iron, caitinps, pig and sheet :cad,
tii,„! the woods. hay and straw, the sum of 4d. per
and
pro.
terje.."uld be charged. For malt, meal, sugar, soap,
,itioetlir:trt.t;lope ,r.tohnenv, cotton, wool, ►leather, hides.
Seel (;:ry, butchems ' meat, provisions, fruit, and
tor ee.ne rate of per mile ; and for goods,
lihreli,_ t.cularased in the nda:ma ltrc vegetables,ll
i :
c°lt rhaseel
above, the sum owf wares,
pera ton per mile
Charge. For every-person con‘eyed, 2d. per mile,
%s, etiri" b"rse, Ynule, &c,, not exceeding ten miles, the sum
it. gd ! anti exceeding that distance, and under twenty miles,
ttotty*e4,Url abov twenty miles, ss. 6d. ; and for every carriage,
The amore than two tons, 6d per mile.
gitie-.tteunve rates will undergo some amendments oft the re-con.
ill:ell:I of tt e subject.
l'iit ~m ease taken was that of
zit, I `IRK and SCARBOROUGH RAILWAY DEVIATION.
444,11 Hul'a and
Poshl for this Bin. He said it was a
to
eit to enable the and North Midland Railway Company
yeti
et
York,
line of the York and Scarborough .Railway, near the
reel that Than!, W,as from the Great North of England Railway Compas.y.
e 1 Lliference between the promoters and the Opponents was
llaatter of crouing the Great North of England line. It was a
ef cross great moment to the promoters, inasmuch as the point
eeehl
be g.the uttertr line drawn up by his clients was the one that
tieet„.. 'heti w ' vantage.atid safety to the public. The oppo,-
e„hte.r!"Posed that a crossiug should be made, at a great disa.,-
lie, " and with considerable danger to the passengers en both
ve,ell_.l-1e treated, that atter evidence which he would call, the
itc.itte would declare that the preamble had been proved,
fieN tcPbensori, the engiueer, was then calledC , and his evidence
ille_t
oi:: out the argumeounsel. thee then vents of the Learnedjourned till twelve o'clock tomorrow,
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Group V.
V2Ontintied from our Afternoon Edition of yesterdAy.) .
ceS:rouel
Thorpe carrier between the towns on the proposed line
the the thirty years, said that the traffic which would flow on to
r 7 like would be ani.ually about' 253,140 tons, and the total
lhgahtage would be nearly 62,000/.
01, t. HarleY, coach proprietor in Lincoln, returned the traffic of
the coaches on the line at about 6 000/. and van traffic at 2,0001.,
greater I art of which Id 1.), b.°, bed by the intended line.
;a3'William Filkina, laceerna‘riv"Notteinagharrir —Thought that the rail.
could be of the ut; importance to the trade of the town,
triall.:iti.joaliurasiPtotviaercidanao
lia'td,l.l.4turallY diminish the alterations or fluctuations which bad of
eitntirious to Nottingham.
to the
disthtet, that the proposed linc would do a great deal of g
residing near Nottingham—Was a maltso.edr
treTtle escarninalicn of the witness was proceeded with till four
ucks when the Committee adjourned till to.morrow.

_
Group G.
Tosg Group AND HANTS RAILWAY.
toelvomumued. from our ..kfi ern°, /1 Edit I,ift SeNterdaY.)
op. inquiry from vlr YORICR, Mr. Saunders stated, that on a
04-14,_`e Miles he thought that the charge ought to tx, higher
. long line, such as that between London arid ilristol.
4113 Point )14 I(o4ke divided the
coreinittce4 QA t,i4

troduction of strangers, the Climatiati hithrilte that the Com-
mittee had agreed to an aintiiied clause which, instead of the Pre.
Vious rates Submitted by them, enacted that the only increaseof
charge should be one of 15 per cent. additional on all goods carried
not further than one.half thedistance of the whole line. By another
clause it was decided that the charges should be on the average of
the charges made on the Great Western Railway, but that in no
case should the charges be greater than the maximum stated in the
previous clauses.
Au objection was taken by the agent of the South-Western
Railway to the clause which regulated thil, should any difference
arise batween the Great Western Railway Company, and the corn.
pany of the South. Western, respecting the junction of the Berks
and Hants Railway. The guages of the too railways are different,
and the South- Westeru Company were anxious to have the forma.
tion of the junction under their own control, while the Great
Western Company were anxious to make the junction a matter of
mutual agreement; and should any .lifFerrnce of opinion arise, that
the difference should be referred to the Board of Trade. The
Committee conceived the latter plan to be the tairer of the two, and
overruled the objection.
By one of the clauses it was enacted that no Station should be
made within less than three tnilei from Strathfitldsaye, without the
consent of the Duke bf Wellington; but the distance was amended
to five miles instead of three miles, and the alteration was adopted
by the Committee.

Ey other clauses all obstruction or injury to the Kennet and
Avon Canal was obviated.

The remaining clauses were then passed, and the Chairman
signed the Bill. As the Chairman would have to report on a great
many circumstances, Mr. Burke, the Parliamentary agent to the
line, had prepared a report, comprising all the facts of the proposed
railway, which he read to the Committee. This, after the intro-
tlbetion of a notice of the principle of a graduated charge according
tQ distance, for the firbt time legally recognised by the Bill for the
line, was approved, and received by the Committee for presentation
to the House. This concluded the investigation bef►re the Select
Committee, and it was agreed that the Bill should be reported
accordingly'.
THE SOUTHAMPTON AND DORCHESTER RAILWAY.

The consideration of this Bil: was postponed till Wednesday
morning.
THE WILTS AND SOMERSET RAILWAY.

Mr. SISHEAD appeared for the promoter. of the Bill, and stated
that the opposition of Mr. Ainstey had been arranged.
Mr. GREENWOOD appeared for the Somersetshire Canal Com-
pany, and proposed a clause for securing the interests of that
Company. In doing this he alluded to the statements of Mr. Sly_
head, and the inquiries of Mr. Entwistle, which we noticed in our
report when this railway was last before the Committee. The
ground of opposition then taken to making the Radstock Branch
was now abandoned, and the desire of the Canal Company was not,
I herefore, to interrfere with the carriage of coal to the south and
south-west, but to preserve the monopoly of the carriage of coal to
the north and north-east. The preservation of this monopoly
would preserve the property of about 120 shareholders, who
held to the extent of 1,0001 and under, who were all people of
small substance, without enhancing the charge to the public to any
considerable extent.

Mr. SLYHEAD thought that the Counsel for the Canal Company
ought to have adduced some authority for his proposition,
whereas there was not a single Act of Parliament which con-
tained such a clause. It was an unprecedented thing for any
one to ask. There was no security whatever that these canal
companies would not very largely increase their tolls. The same
principle of public advantage which applied to the south and west,
applied equally to the north and east. It would be introducing a
precedent of great and injurious effect to the public interests.
When the Great Western lip e was formed it came into direct
competition with the Dartmouth and Bridgewater and with the
Kennet and Avon Canals, and no such plea had then been set up.
The CHAIRMAN here interrupted the Learned Counsel, and
.tated that he thought it was impossible for the Committee to
sanction any rue!, principle as this. Mr. Yortas agreeing in this
view, the proposition was immediately withdrawn, and the Com-
ittee went into the clauses of the Bill.

Th., rates of charge for the carriage of passengers and goods were
preckely the s .me as those provided In the Bill fur the Beaks and
Hants Railway.

On reading the clause by which the Company proposed to take
a power of increasing their charge for carrying goods less than
ti e whole length of the line, Mr. Saunders stated that
the length of the line from its junction with the
Great Western Railway to Salisbury was thirty-eight miles, and to
Weymouth seventy-fi Ye mil, s, but that the Company held these
as one line, and in consideration of the distance, they conceived
that this evra charge ought to be allowed. Considerable discus-
sion arose in the Committee, and Mr. Saunders was ex-
amined at considerable length, the result of his replies
establishing the principle which he had avowed during
the consideration of the Berks and Hants Railway.
The c, tic:usion was that an increased charge of 5 per cent. was al-
lowed on all animals and goad carried not more than three-fourths
of the length of the whole line ; 15 per cent. on those carried not
further than one-half the whole length; and 25 per -cent. on those
carried not further than one.four h of the whole length.

Provisions were made for protecting the rights of the Duchy of
Cornw ill, and the Kennet and Avon Canal, as arranged at the
sitting last week.

A clause for the protection of Mr. Ainstey's property was intro-
duced with that gentleman's consent. Provisions were also intro-
duced for saving any intrusion on the barracks at Fordington, near
Dorchester, and the clauses were concluded.
Mr. BURKE then read the rcport, which, atter it had been
amended in some unimportant particulars by the suggestions of the
Committee, was approved and adopted.
The Bill was signed by the Chairman, who was instructed to
present it to the House.

Group X.
LONDON AND YORK RAILWAY.

(Continued front :,,ur Afternoon Edition of yesterday)
Captain Lawes, the manager of the Manchester and Leeds Rail.
way, was called, and he stated that the Liverpool and Manchester
Railway Company and the Manchester and Leeds Company fre.
quently carried manure. lie thought manure could be carried on
the London and York line without inconvenience to the passengers.
The witness was cross.examineet by Mr. HILDYLRD, to show that
a manure depot at King's.cross would be a great nuisance.
George Hunt, examined by Mr. Dexisox—He was a draper in
Bedtbrd. He p..id 3/. Bs. a ton for goods for Manchester. He had
not made any calculation of what the cost would be by a railway.
Mr. Whitbread was called to speak to the general advantages of
a railway to Bedford. The London at.d York was the most advan.
tageous scheme Nat had yet been proposed.
Mr. John Saville, a woolstapler at St. Neots, said he was in the
hab.t. of buying large quantities of wool. He purchased it from
various places within a distance of from twenty to thirty miles
round St. Neots. The wool was sent principally to Yorkshire.
The present cost 01 conveying it to the Yorkshire market was about
31. per ton. He sent it to Leicester, and from Leicester to York-
shire. if the London and Yotk Railway were formed, the cost
would be U. 10s. Bd.

Mr. John Day, brewer, of St. Ncots, was called, and examined
by Mr. PAGET—The population of St. Neots was about 3,000
The London and York line, if carried out, would be of great ad-
vantage to the town. About 2,009,000 bricks were annually made
in the town. These were all sent to London by the railway. A
large quantity of draining tile was also made in the neighbourhood.
The brick-yin els were situated immediately on the line of the pro
posed railway.

Cross-examined by Mr. TALBOT—Was not aware that draining
tiles were sent to London. He had never heard that bricks were
extensively sent by railways..

Mr. E. Geard said he was a draper at St. Neots. He got
his goods principally from London. From Manchester the cost of
the carriage of goods was 51. per ton, and to London 2/. per ton.
If the railway were to be made from Manchester, the carriage
would be about 30s. per ton. A great many rags were
sent to St. Neots to make paper with. The paper
roam& ctured at St. Neots was pr.ncipally sent to Lon-
don. About 400 tons of coal were used in the manufacture of
paper.

. .
Air. J. Carrington stated that he was an ironmonger at St.
Neots. He had been in business these thirty years. The means
Cl transit, both north and south of the town. were very incon.

The distance from Lotuon was fifty.six miles The
preacot coach fare was U. inside; by ra;lvray it would be about 12s.
The Committee were engaged up till four o'clock with similar
evidence with respect to Huntingdon.—AdJourned till to-morrow.

Group 0.
GRAND JUNCTION POTTERIES LINE.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)

Mr. COCKBURN having replied, the parties were ordered to with-
draw.

After an interval of some time, the parties were admitted.

The CHAIRMAN informed them that they cansidered the pre-
amble of the Bill proved on the condition that certain clauses should
be inserted in the Bill.

Group E.
NEWCASTLE AND BERWICK LINE.

(Continuen from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.)

Mr. Set geant WasNunSid then addressed the Committee tt; the
effect that if, for she sake of the branches being made, the beet
trunk line IS set aside, the most irretrievable injury would follow to
the !Au tic The question was, whith of the two lines of which
they had the plans would make the test trunk line. They were
aware that there already existed a chain of railway communica-
tion between London and Edinburgh, passing through the
western parts of England. By this chain the distance would not
be more than 399 miles. -flee- Board •of Trade. in theirleptirt "ori
the case state that the line of eastern communicatiou Is not many
miles less than the western. He (Sergeant Wrangham) would
prove that the eastern line would be the longest of the two.
If the line recommended be adopted, the distance frem Edin-
burgh to
.London, would be. 407 miles. It became then a
matter of deep moment to the Committee to select the
shortest, quickest, and cheapest mode of communication, and at
the same time to retain to the eastern parts of the kingdom that
advantage which it already possesses. His Learned Friend (Mr.
Hiltlyard), in opening the case, bad stated that it was connected with
the shortening of the line at the south side of Newcastle, and
claimed credit for the fact of his line being ih conjunction
with the former ; but he contended that no efficient improvement
could be made. The real title to be adopted was, to run
the'straUlit course which had been once sanctioned by Parliament,
and had bei.n laid down by the (treat North of England Company,
and which abrldeed the distance between Durham and Newcastle
by tio Ices than seven miles. If the NeWcastle and Berwick
line be adopted, the other Could never be tarried out,
as it would be directly opposed to their interests.
If the improVed line of railway called the Northumberland line,
which was now before the Committee, and denoted by the yellow
line in the map, be adopted, they would have a great saving both
at the north and south sides of Newcastle, The Committee had
the best security for the advantage of the scheme of which he
was the advocate. If the Northumbeland line be adopted, the
direct line through Durham must pay, as a matter of mutt*.
On the line which he advocated there would be no lifeelerossings,
as on the other, which would be at the expense of paying 501. a
year to 64 watchmen. The distance from Gateshead to Berwick,
according to the proposed line from Newcastle to Bert:lett, would
be 67 miles, whereas the other line evtatld shorten it by three
miles and a halt, by making It only sixty-three miles.
The Committee should consider the importance of such
line as resettled the different modes of traction, one bolo atmos-
pheric and the other locomotive. He was surprised that the
Board of Trade, in their report bn atmospheric railways, did hot
seem to consider it-en important gradient after the suceessful dt.
periment at Dalkey. The Learned totintel then entered
into the superior merits of the tttaospheric line, which he
advocated. The toss tit' power on the atmospheric line
to acquire Acceleration, he contended, was nothitle,
whervete 'ht. loss of power cn a locomotive line was ehritirioUs. He
t::sti quoted from Mr. Stephenson's eildence betote the Board of
Trade to show that the more frequent the trains on an iteenteherß:
line. the less would be the loss of yowele if It be their interest
to have a number of trains, It tttuSt be their interest to carry
the public at as high d rate of speed and as low a rate of fare
as they possibly could arrive at. At what cost would they
propose to carry the public I' The. proposed to have a gteater
number of carriages and a greater speed. The speed on the Meth.
motive line was to average two hours and a half, dnd they pros
posed on the atmospheric tine to carry them froth Istewcastie to
Berwick in one hour and a half on alt average. Now as to cheap.
Hess, the locomotive line proposed to carry first-class paSsengeri fok
bianeg theuin
ea
accord
aliiridopthiritridoniteacto:
I Cis 6d.—on this atmospheric line they would carry the," ter
eeildu c
thatcior tl'oeureldcobuelmade
t
aeirt.mre favours Pallrnetib"clieiv
upportunify for confirming the success of the
wupt
41..mel3tits already
tried, and manifesting its advantages to the
I ut if it were thrown out it would be suppressed, and the
.public would lose the benefit of it for settle time. They had an op-
portunity which, if once neglected, would not be recalled.
It was said that this was a Mere experiment, and that that should
vbe a bar to its trial ; but surely they had had time to see the ad-
ten ages of the Dalkey line. lie then aL wl
uded to Mr. Stepheonvi dtence, given in 1825, with regard to the velocity of locomotive
engines,• when he elated that eight miles an hour would
b
speed which it "uld be impossible to arrive at. It
was rather too late in the day to treat this as an experiment,
Ito ' •
and pat rude as ouch fau of II Opa te wog in it. 924
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nbrity, and not to allow them to enter into collie:Rion with the
locomotive system. He trusted that tt e Committee would not
treat this as an experiment, but that they would listen to the
evidence of the engineers whom he would call, and judge
from that evidente whether it be not yraved to their satisfaction to
be a practical benefit, and whether the evidence be
such as to satisfy the Committee that they should pass the preamble
of this Bill, by which alone a great benefit would be carried out,
and by which the foundation will be made for extending over the
rest of the kingdoba the benefits of a system of cheaper and more
rapid communication than any *MO had as yet been investigated.
Mr. Samuda being first called, stated on examination that in
1839 he and his father laid down a half-mile of atmospheric rail-
way at Wormwood Scrubs, and worked it successfully. In 1842
an arrangement was entered into between the Government
and themselves to lay down a line of la mile in length, from
Kingstown to Dalkey. Dalkey was 71 feet higher than Kingstown.
It was constructed with a steam-engine fixed at the upper end of
the line, and a connexion between that steam-engine and the
pipes, which were used for the purposes of exhaustion. Not having
the Parliamentary power to select the most convenient place of erect-
ing the steam engine, they were obliged to extend the place fur the
engine house to the upper extremity of the line, at the distance of
about one-third of a mile from the spot that would be most fa.
vourable. The witness then entered into an interesting detail
connected with the Dalkey and Kingston Atmospheric Railway.
He estimated that the atmospheric pipe on the Newcastle
and Berwick line would cost 4,3001. per mile. The
electric telegraph would be about 2001. per mile.
The cost of a pipe per mile, would, with the tele-
graph, amount to 4,500/. They would undertake to take the mail
trains from Newcastle to Berwick in one hour and ten minutes. The
ordinary trains would travel at the speed of forty miles an tour.
By the nature of the arrangements there could be no collision, for no
two trains could come in opposite directions on the same tube.
There would be no annoyance from fire or sparks, or blow-
ing •off of the steam. It would give to the public a much
more commodions and pleasant mode of conveyance than could be
arrived at by the locomotive system. It presented a great ad ran-
tags with respect to surmounting steep gradients. A locomotive
system had to subdivide its powers, one portion for itself and the
other for the train, which would be useless. There would not be
such a loss of power on the atmospheric plan.
The examining Counsel having intimated that this evidence
would occupy some hours, the Committee adjourned.

POLICE INTELLIGENCE.
( YESTERDAY. )
CLERICENWELL.

Edward James Sale, a bootniaker, living at No. 9,
Graham's buildings, Freerston's-alley, St. Luke's, was
charged with stabbing Mary, his wife, whereby her life
is in imminent danger.
The prisoner, who trembled violently on being placed
in the dock, was undefended. He is apparently between
30 and 40 years of age ; he was ragged and filthy in his
dress, and dissipated in his look.
Police-sergeant James Brennan, 20 G, deposed as fol-
.

lows :—Ye-st7erday, at three o'clock, p.m , I was in the
Featherstone street station-house, a man came there ;rid
told me that a woman had been stabbed in Graham's
buildings. I hastened thither, and in a room on the
second floor, I saw a woman supported on a chair by
two females. She was speechless. On the floor befote
her was a pool of blood, about a pint, and on the table
was a knife wet with blood. (The constable produced
the knife, the blade of which was stained with blood
almost to the hilt.) There were three men in the room,
two of whom, named Bolton and Paulson, were drunk.
The prisoner was not drunk. He seemed greatly ex-
cited and agitated. He might have been drinking.
When I went in a surgeon's assistant, who had dressed
the wound, was leaving it. I sent forthwith for Mr.
Leeson, the police surgeon. The wcman seemed in a
state of collapse, but groaned occasionally. I told the
prisoner " You must consider yourself in my custody for
stabbing your wife." He semed greatly excited and
distressed, and replied, " Oh dear, oh dear, I did, and
lam very sorry for it." Bolton exclaimed, " You
flung the knife at her." The prisoner said " Yes."
She was removed to St. Bartholomew's Hospital. I
took up the bloody ki.ife, and holding it in my hand,
Said, " Here is the knife, I believe, with which the
wound was inflicted." The prisoner made no reply.
When the surgeon came, I saw the wound, which is on
the left breast. When the surgeon removed the lint the
wound began to bleed afresh. She was then conveyed
to the hospital. The sergeant produced the following
certificate., from Mr. Reid, surgeon at the hospital :
" This is to certify that Mary Sale was admitted into St.
Bartholomew's Hospital on the 4$ t instant, with a wound
on the upper part of her chest, which has perfoi ated the
left lung, and that she still continues in a very precarious
state." _ _

The prisoner was here about to say something, but
was directed to "keep quiet" by an officer of the Court.
It will be remarked that when called upon afterwards he
declined to sav anything.
William Bolton deposed that he was in the room at
the time the occurrence took place. He 14as not very
drunk at the time. The prisoner was his relative. They
were taking their tea when the prisoner and his wife
quarrelled. She called him very..bad =trues.
Mr. G nEENwooo—What names ? The witness, after
some hesitation, said she called him a " nincompoop."
He "chucked " the knife at her, and it entered her left
breast.

Prisoner—What he says is true.
Witness adiltd—lt was the prisoner who first fetched
a surgeon.
Ayre Pattison, the other man who was in the room at
the time, corroborated the above evidence.
Mr. G REEN*OOD, after giving the usual caution, asked
the prisoner if he wished to say anything ? Prisoner—
I will say nothing.
Mr. GREEN WOOD—I will remand you until Saturday.
Sergeant Brennan said there was no hope of the
woman's living until then.
The prisoner was then committed.
George Underwood alias Richard Baker, dressed in
naval uniform, was charged with stealing, from the house
of Mrs. Francis Stewart, of High-street, Putney, pawn-
broker, 431. 6s. in gold and silver; also with burglariously
entering her house and robbing it of twenty-three gold
rings, four watches, gold seals and studs, three pair of
silver sugar tongs, silver spoons, and other articles of plate.
It appeared that, on the 15th ult., the prisoner, who
was an articled clerk to the prosecutrix, absconded, and
on the same evening the money was missed. He was
remanded.

LITERARY ASSOCIATION OF THE
FRIENDS OF POLAND.

The thirteenth anniversary meeting of this Associa-
tion took place on Saturday at their chambers, Duke-
street, St. James's. The attendance was numerous
and respectable. Among the gentlemen present we
observed Lord Dudley Coutts Stuart, Lord Kinnaird,
Lord Robert Grosvenor, the Honourable Colonel
Leicester Stanhope, Mr. Monkton Milnes, M.P. ;
Mr. Denison, M.P. ; J. Abel Smith, Esq., M.P.; Mr. W.
Williams, M.P. ; Samuel Rogers, Esq. ; Summers Har-
ford, Esq. ; Captain Townshend, R.N. ; Mr. R. Yorke,
M.P. ; F. Pigou, Esq. ; Slingsby Duncomhe, Esq. ; G.
A. Young, Esq. ; Seymour Westmacott, Esq. ; P. 11.
Min, Esq. ; Rev. Dr. Worthington; Joseph Soynbee,
1t1.q.; J. Bowyer, E•q.. &c.
Lord DUDLEY STUART was unanimously voted into
the their.

The business was commenced by the Noble Chairman
reading letters from the president of the association, T.
Wentworth Beaumont, Esq., from the Duke of Suther-
land, the Marquis of Northampton, and from Mr. Wil-
son Patten, M.P., all expressing regret at being un-
avoidably absent from the meeting, but wishing every
prosperity to the cause in the promotion of which it was
assembled.
The Ilononrable Secretary, Mr. tiumex, then read
the annual report; which we regret that the demands
upon our space enable us to do little else than to allude
to. It detailed the principal events of Polish interest
which had occurred duritie the past year; alluded to the
visit of the Emperor of Russia; the Polish ball which
took place then; the arrest of the Count Ostrowski; t;:e
seizure of his effects, and the opening of his letters. It
detailed the refusal of thecouncil to accept the pecuniary
aid offered by the Czar, and paid a well-earned tribute
to the tntinory of the late Thornae Campbell. The
report went on to congratulate the association
upon the general PYCCilent conduct of the re-
fugees; alluded to various works connected with Polish
history, now in the course of preparation; referred to
many Polish gentlemen distinguishing themselves by
literary and artistic ability,—expressed the thanks of the
w;sociation to many of its officers, contributors,
and" friends ; and announced that another Polish
ball would- take place at Willis's Rooms on
the 13th of June; gratefully acknowledged the liberality
of the artists who contributed their services to the concert
which formed part of the entertainments at the last ball
at the Guildhall; and concluded by expressing the con-
viction of the council, that the restoration of Poland to
its former integrity and independence must ultimately
take place.
The zeport, which was often warmly applauded, was
then received and adopted.
A series of resulutious expressive of the gratitude of
the Association for services rendered during the last
year to the gauge of Poland by many itoble and distill=
guished persons, including her Royal Highness the
Duchess of Kent, and several other members of the
aristocracy; to the Mayor and Cerporation of the City;
and to the dr/ides who had contributed gratuitous assist-
ance to the Association, at their ball and concert; were
then successively proposed; and carried by acclamation:
The usutil kthitibe business of the ASsodiation was
then proceeded with. Five new members of the council
were -named in place of five, who,, by the rules of the
Association, annuallie withdre*i Wentworth Beall-
mot% 1 q., Was re-elected president; and Lord Dudley
Stuart, Lord Panmurei the Earl of Scarborough; and the
Marquis of Breadalbane, Were re-elected viee-presidents.
Lord Doixer S'ttiAief, at the conclusion of the regua
lar business of the meeting, addressed the gentlemen
present in a long and eloquent, speech; commenting upon
the report *JIM they had heard fetid ; upon tie eir-
ctitn'Atalices electing Poland, which bad occurred since
their last gerferal meeting; and Upon the present condi-
thin and atrial° Pfesperity at their &Übe. The noble
Laid aPressed his pleasure at the numerous assemblage
of the friends of Poland ho saw around him; and stated
his conviction that such meetings as the pTeSenti etn-
bracing as they did fl,l shades
.or political opinion, could
not be without its effect in awvaneing the cause they all
had So deeply at heart► 11e expressed his gratitude to
the medical offietrg or the Association for their valuable
and gratuitous services, and also took an opportunity
acknowledging the efforts of those gentlemen who in-
terest themselves in procuring employment for the re-
fugees. This was a species of aid which the Association
valued still higher than pecuniary contributions, and
he knew that the Poles themselves much preferred being
v
put in the way of gaining a subsistence by honourable
The Noble Lord proceeded to charac-
i—tnerdClsiseetra-
ays: to living upon the mere generosity of others.
in-ar.)
most exemplary the conduct of the great body
of the refugees resident in this country. Upwards of
500 of them had now been in England for thirteen or
fourteen years, and during that long period no offence of
a serious nature had been committed by any one of them.
—(Hear, bear.) The efforts which had
entirely
ly madefail
failed.
The Noble Lord in
the connexion
characterw i with thethe
Polish
events
refugees, the pasth aydear, to blacken
detailed at tenth
the cue of Count

istrowski, already alluded to in the report, adding the
higlr:st eulogium upon that pntletnates conduct and
character. After alluding to the great Polish ball of
last summer, and the spirited conduct of the ladies pa-
tronesses, in refusing to postpone it on account of the
Emperor's visit, lie detailed the motives which had in-
fluenced him in counselling the refusal of the Czar's
proifrred pecuniary assistance, observing that the
Poles had honour to preserve as well as lives to main-
tain. The Noble Lord proceeded to comment upon the
continued oppressive policy of Russia towards -Poland—
insancing the prohibition of the temperance societies of
that country, and the unrelenting persecution of the Polish
Jew;. lie remarked also upon the continued attempted
aggression of the autocrat 'lron Circassia, and concluded
by an impassioned declaration of his sympathies with
Poland, and his fixed determination never to relax his
endeavours in her cause until their efforts should hare
been at length crowned with success.—(Cheers.)
Colonel Szyrma, the Chevalier de Wiercinski, and M.
Kezmin, also addressed the meeting, in short but feel-
ing and energetic speeches, breathing their gratitude to
the Noble Lord, x ho had done so much for Poland, and
expressing their confident hopes of the ultimate restora-
tion of their country, and the triumph of their cause.
After a vote of thanks had been passed to Lord
Dudley Stuart, for his conduct in the chair, and to Mr.
Birbeck, the Honorary Secretary, and duly responded to
by both of these gentlemen, the meeting separated at
half past six o'clock. •

WEST IN DIES.

SOUTHAMPON, MAY 5.

The Clyde, Captain Symonds, arrived at half-past nine, P. M.,
bringing the malls from Tampico to March 26 ; Vera Cruz, April
2 ; Havannah, April 10 ; Honduras, March 20 ; Jamaica, April
8 ; Demerara, April 4 ; Trinidad, April 5 ; Barbadoes, April 8 ;
Grenada, April 10 ; St. Thomas's, April 15; La Guayra, April
3 ; Bermuda, April 20. . _

On Freight-486,635 dollars, 176/. British coin, 150 oz. gold
dust, 691 oz. of silver, 93 serons of cochineal, 13 serons of jalap,
300 oz. of plata brueta.

She also brings 72 passengers and 13 invalids, amongst whom
are—His Excellency P. P. de Oliver, from Vera Cruz, Spanish
Minister Plenipotentiary at the Court of Mexico ; the Hon. Mr.
Dakin, Speaker of the House of Assembly at St. Vincent; the
lion. Mr. Claxton, Attorney-General at St. Kitt's.
The Ex. President General Santa Anna was still imprisoned in
the fortress of San Carlos de Perote. Two of the ministers of the
Supreme Court of Justice had been down there to take his deposi-

tion, and had returned to Mexico after executing their commis-
sion. The general opinion in the city was that he would be con.
demned to death, but that the sentence would not be carried into
effect, and in lieu of it he would be banished the country for ever.
All his property had been sequestrated by the Government, and
will probably be confiscated, with the exception of the estate
Manga de Clavo, near Vera Cruz, which was bought with the
dowry of his former wife, and t►elonga ,to his children.
It is believed that the present Government cannot hold out long,
and that the old federal party will get into power. Comer Ferias,
formerly President, and who had been banished for some years, has
returned to the country, and may probably be elevated to the
Presidency.

SUMMARY
DOF MEWS
AN
publtt Optitton.

" Who runs may read."

TOILEIGN.

The French Court, it is understood, will leave the Tuileries
next week for Neuilly, where they will reside for the season.
The Commerce says, M. Guisot's duties of office are distributed
among three substitutes, General Sebastiani, holds levees, M. De
Barante does the laborious work, and AS. Duchatel signs documents.
The Overland Mail brings news from Bombay to the Ist of
April, China to the 7th of February, Calcutta to the 21st, and
Madras to the 23d of March, ,

The expedition commanded by Sir Charles Napier, against the
refractory tribes on the borders of Sinde, has been completely suc-
cessful.

The confusion in the Punjaub is greater than ever, and the Bri.
tish troops, which have assembled in large numbers in the neigh-
bourhood of Ferozepore, will probably be invited to interfere to re.
store order and drive back Akbar Khan, who threatens Peshawur.
The Grand Council of Berne, on the 28th ult., voted an indemnity
of 105,000 francs to be paid to Lucerne for the Bernese prisoners,
who are still in the power of that canton. The Grand Council of
Argovia had also voted not only in favour of an indemnity of
300,000 francs to Lucerne for their GOO prisoners, but an amnesty
for all political offences committed by the Catholic party in Argovia
in 1841, on account of which many persons were still under punish-
ment or in banishment.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS, May 5. '

Their Lordships met at Five o'ClOck.
Earl FITZWILLIAM presented petitions from Bing-
ley and other places against the sale of spirits on the
Lord's day.
Lord COTTENHAM presented a petition from 200
tradesmen of Bristol against the Act which abolishes im-
prisonment for debt under 201.
Lord MONTEAGLE presented petitions from Cam-
bridge against the Maynooth grant.
Lord FAVERSHAM presented petitions from York-
shire against the grant.
Lord BROUGHAM presented petitions to the same
effect ; also petitions against the Act which prohibits
the imprisonment for debt or debts under 201.
Lord MONTEAGLE wished to put a question to the
Noble Duke opposite on a very important subject, of
which he had given notice. He wished to know from
the Noble Duke opposite, whether it was the intention of
the Government to introduce a measure into Parliament
for the renewing of the Usury Laws ?
The Duke of WELLINGTON said it wa, the inten-
tion of the Government to propose such a Bill during
the present session.
The Earl of WINCHILSEA presented petitions from
different parts of Yorkshire, and also from Leamington
Priors, in Warwickshire, against any further grant to
the College of Maynooth.
The Duke of RICHMOND presented 169 petitions
from different parts of the country, praying their Lord-
ships in any reduction of taxation not to lose sight of
the agricultural interest. The Noble Duke also pre-
sented a petition against the Customs Bill.
The Earl of St. GERMANS presented a petition from
Cornwall against any further grant to the College of
Maynooth.