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London, England, 1844-05-17 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

.ILO USE OF COMMONS, May 16.

The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour.

Mr. O'CONNELL presented a petition from Dublin,
praying the House to suspend the Standing Orders with
respect to the Dublin and Cashel Railway Bill.
Mr. M. O'CONNELL presented a similar petition.
Mr. COLLETT presented several petitions from
Dublin in favour of the Dublin and Cashel Railway Bill.
Mr. ESTCOLTRT moved that the Committees on
the following Bills have leave to reporron or before the
18th June next :—Ayr Bridge Bill, Preiton and Wyre
Dock,' Sce., Bill, .Paisley General Gas Bill, Lakenheath
and Brandon Drainage Bill, Monkland Railway (No. 2)
RH, London and. South Western Railway (No. 1), and
North Wales Mineral Railway Bill.—Agreed to.
ASEITON AND STALEY-BRIDGE'RAILWAY.
Mr. M. GIBSON moved the further consideration of
the report on this Bill. - • "

Mr.. GISBORNE expressed his surprise at the deci-
sion the Committee on the, two :competing lices of
railway, namely, the Ashton and Sheffield Railway and
the Leeds. and Manchester and Ashton Railway BM,
had come to, in recommending the adoption of both lines.
The opinions stated before the Committee showed that
Sheffield had made out their case. He was most anxious
that no such precedent as this Bill established should be
recognised.

Mr. LABOUCHERE thought the Hon. Member was
right. Some impartial person should be appointed who
could decide the points at issue, and he, therefore,
approved of what was termed the arbitration clause.
After a few words from Lord G. SOMERSET,
Mr. HAWES thought the decision was unsatisfactory;
it appeared to him that the Committee had sanctioned
two lines, while they had taken evidence of the traffic
only on one. -
Mr. GLADSTONE said the question had been re-
ferred, in fact, to arbitrators from the Board of Trade.
He thought the motion could not be entertained on a
point of form. The question was whether, on 'account of
the important defect attending the arrangements which
had been made, the House would intercept practically
the progress of the Bill. If the works could be executed
under the clause he did not think .there was any objec-
tion to warrant the House in intercepting the Bill.
Mr. V. SMITH defended the conduct of- the Com-
mittee. It was impossible for the Committee to come
to a decision without the evidence of an engineer. The
Committee, having satisfied themselves that the arrange-
ments could be made, decided that the means of carry-
ing them into effect would be to refer them to a compe-
tent authority.
. Mr. J. PARKER disapproved .of the new precedent
attempted to be intrcduced, but he was contented to have
the-clause rather than run the risk of losing the Bill.
After a few words from Mr. CLIVE, the Bill was read
a second time and ordered to be engrossed.
The Chester and Holyhead. Bill was read a third time
and passed.
• DUBLIN AND CASIIEL RAILWAY. -

SHAW presented.petitions from Dublin, praying
for the suspension of the Standing Orders with respect to
the Dublin and Cashel Railway Bill.
Mr. M. O'FERRAL presented a similar petition.
Mr. SHELL presented a similar petition from the
Chamber of ,Commerce of Cloamel.

Mr. HAMILTON presented a similar petition from
Down.

Mr. STAFFORD O'BRIEN presented a similar peti-
tion from Clare.

Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL presented similar petitions
from Kerry.
SUGAR DUTIES.

In answer to a question from Mr. EWART,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated
that he should not be able to move that the House do re-
solve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to con-
sider the question of the Sugar Duties, until Monday
June 3.

INTERFERENCE OF PEERS AT ELECTIONS.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE postponed the motion of which
he had given notice for this evening, relative to the in-
terference of Peers in the elections of Members of Par-
liament, till this day fortnight.
NOTICES OF MOTION.

Mr. WARD gave notice that this day fortnight he
should move that the House do resolve itself into a
Conimitte of the whole House to consider the subject of
the. Temporalities of the Irish Church.
HILL COOLIES.

Lord SANDON moved for returns of extracts of dis-
patches from the Governor-General of India, on the sub-
ject of the emigration of Hill Coolies.—Agreed to.
COUNTING OUT THE HOUSE.

Mr. PAKINGTON hoped he might be allowed,
without disrespect to the House in general, or to any
Member of it, to complain of what he believed was the
unusual and somewhat uncourteous mode in which the
House was counted out at half-past four o'clock yester-
day, before the usual hour of proceeding to business.
No one was more willing than himself to agree to what
he believed the sense of the House. If it was the opinion
of the House that all legislation should be confined to
her Majesty's Government he was willing to consent to
it, but if upon subjects to which the government had not
leisure to turn their attention legislation could be
carried on by the exertion of individual Members,
they ought not to be exposed to the sort of impedi-
ment he met with yesterday. On the• Wednesday before
there was no House; yesterday it was counted out;
and Wednesday next was the Dethy day, when, of
course, there would be no House again.—(Laughter.)
If he was wrong in the grounds he had taken, he should
be happy to retract what he had said. He could not
complain of any Hon. Member in particular, because he
did not know who it was that moved that the House be
counted out last night, for he was not aware that it had
been counted out until he was told so by an Hon. Friend
whom he met in Parliament street.—(Laughter.)
The dropped Orders were then re appointed, and the
subject dropped.
DISSENTERS' CHAPELS BILL.

In answer to. a question from Sir T. WILDE,
Sir R.PEEL was understood to say that as there were
two Orders to-morrow before the Dissenters' Chapels
Bill, namely the Customs Bill and the Factories Bill, and
as it was probable, therefore, that the Dissenters' Chapels
Bill could not come on for discussion before a late hour,
he would propose to read the Bill a second time to-mor-
row, and take the discussion upon the principle of the
Bill on the motion for going into Committee.
Dr. BOWRING .aaid there were a great number of
persons who were anxious that this Bill should be dis-
cussed on an early occasion.
Sir R. PEEL said the Bill could not be fully dis-
cussed if brought on at a late hour to-morrow, and
therefore he proposed to take the discussion on the
motion for going into Committee.
NATIONAL EDUCATION IN IRELAND.

Mr..11.J. O'CONNELL wished to know from the
Right Hon. Gentleman opposite, when the remaining
estimates would be brought forward ? There were-two
ofthose—that for National Education on which an increase
was to be proposed this year, and upon
which some discussion was likely to arise ;
there was also the grant to Maynooth, which was an
annual subject of discussion. It would be very conve-
nient to know what time it was intended to bring them
on, K hether before or after the NVhitsun Holidays ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
would give an answer to• morrow.