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upon this subject they were bound to look to the different
and varying circumstances of the country, and to the Wants
'and necessities of its inhabitants. A permanent fixed
duty Was therefore out of the question.—(Hear.)—The
principle of the present Bill was the same as that of the
Bill of last year, and it afforded a more effectual protec-
tion to the British corn-grower. That principle had been
Lail- down by Mr. Canning last year ; it was contained in
the Memorandum of Lord Liverpool, and he (Mr. Hus-
-1940°) could support it front documents in his possession.
1804, a duty of 245. :3d. was imposed, when corn rose
v3M• per the Winchester measure. That was, then,
to the grower as effectual a protection up to that price as
the Present duty would be. For these and various other
reasons with which he should not trouble the House at
this Lite hour, he would support the resolutions before the
Corarnittee.
Mr. STANLEY had yet to learn the reasons which had
'n:tueed the Right Hon. ,Gentleman to prefer the present
taint ° that of last session. He (Mr. Stanley) was cer-
4'nlY inclined to the opinion of those who abstractedly
suPPorted a fixed permanent duty. But feeling that it
/74s impracticable to carry such a measure, be felt that the
'tilt bast plan would be to adopt h a scale of duties as
would keep the price of corn as lowsuc as possible, at the same
time giving to the agriculturist a fair profit. Still adhering
to that principle, he conceived the scale of last year to he
tnt,tlela better than that now proposed. He had described
measure as being the result of a compromise in the
Cabaret, but he had, be believed, guarded himself from
imputing any improper motive to those wlso had intro-
ced it. He considered the measure as one which held
a promise
g:ito the ear, but s not calculated to fulfil
tto the sense. When he saw taus cale ascending and de-
:eeadinn the ratio which ' this did—a scale increasing
'r°ro the minimum up to a certain point, and then de-
.`.4"ing—he could not avoid looking upon the maximum
„
7k_tbe real pivot price. The maximum here was not at.
the
same point at which it stood last year. By that scale
te duty was 2s. ascending on the variation of IQ. in price.
ii
vres however, it was is. alone ascending or descending,
after a certain point. What he wished to ask of the pro-
'ter* of this Bill was,' whether it was intended to give a
Mater or a less protection to the agriculturist than the
of last session ?
HUSKISSON.—It is intended to give a greater
Mr. STANLEY wished to have it distinctly ascer-
„Tned what the object of the Bill was, for he believed
cute to this moment the mention of Ministers with re-
' ‘ee to the measure was not understood by the, House.
th4r. HUSKISSON said, the object and principle of
TirereaPter:
sent measure were precisely the same as last year.—
of last year afforded protection up to 605.: a
degree of protection, from 60s. to 645., was given
eater' degree
Present proposition. The object was the same, the
Pih'ueiple was the same, as the measure of last session,—
504 Object was to give protection up too l
certain point,
t° exclude the introduction of foreign corn as much as
stn r• A. BARING could not discover how the object
107 u by the Right Hon. Secretary for the Colonies could
the°btained or answered by this measure. In his opinion,
rag settlement of a question of this kind did not depend
'
on the rate of price, but Must be guided by a great
ay.,,letY of circumstances; because the corn trade, like
b' rY other trade, might lie, and frequently was, affected
, t ambling speculations. The calculation for this
f, 44trY was, that every third or fourth year there would
.e a deficient harvest. Hence speculations, which
fir,. tautly affected the price, took place. In a year of de-
j'lmy, when prices were high, a speculator would make
20Re profit ; and if, when the prices were low, he lost
to at 25 per cent. he could afford it, because he was sure
s
repaid in a year or two the same manner as
ht
ggl*ra saved themselves if they were able to save one
°
'(,-rga out of three. Individuals would thus speculate iiiitt
rlro, and if a deficient harvest did not enable them to pro-
miae high prices, they would put up with a loss in getting
a°f their cargoes, and look forward to better success on
me future occasion. In ordinary years, therefore, the
1,, met down in this scale was not so much a prohibitory
4.43' as the Right Hon. Secretary seemed to suppose. On
a,a'v other hand, when lie said that this measure, when
i'"rn arrived at 64,5. or 655., would encourage importa_
aii?„4,,,, did not every one perceive that such importation
01-'4 not be allowed till there was an incipient scarcity,
e very thing that ought to be prevented ? In point of
e, the measure in this respect held out a seeming pro-
`"tion
ti to the agriculturist, which no gentleman in that
°use could wish to have, for before Corn arrived at so
With a price, it would be impossible for the people to Tar-
liame it. No person could conceive wheat selling at the
g4eof 655. in this country, without knowing that a
at
extremity of d a
istress must prevail, and that con-
saait°•entlay to
impose duty of 20s. on the importation of
bit article was unjust. He really professed that, whether
tari7kvd to the one interest or the other,-'--to the agricul-
batter or the maufacturer B
,—the ill of last year was
, for both. Much had been said about then price of
tring corn on the Continent. But for his own part he
%Ight it very useless to send perona hunting all over
saurar-fe to ascertain this point, when all that was neces-
aa,agy,° he known could he learned from persons at their
nigt,•"°°r. And after all, the calculations made by those
we el,, who travelled into the different corn countries,
ja,redgetierally fallacious, and could not guide them to a
814 d 'c°l3. It was said that some great lights had been
tiitc'e this subject by the inquiry before the Lords. He
of 4he excused if lie doubted the fact. The experiment
getst year, to which allusion had been made, was alto-
her
inconclusive; for in that case grain was brought in
ii
al t. t7he excitation created by the Corn Bill, and whether
Nergain or a loss, was no argument with reference to the
hal 9uestion. The present proposition lie could not
(oat ° th, inking was very unfortunate, since it gave the agri-
eahauri'ts no real protection where they wanted it, and it
aater"ed them to great obloquy by giving them the appeal:-
10.°f a protection willich they did not call for.
HUSKISSOIN said a few word, in explanation.
aor,,Q• PHILLIPS rose amidst loud cries of " Question"
that Go on." The Hon. Baronet expressed his belief
Colo the explanation of the Right Hon. Secretary for the
aia 1448, with reference to the deviation from Mr. Can-
(44l3ill of last year, had not given satisfaction to any
at thtivu'an in the House. He contended, that by looking
ilia Population returns, and comparing the number of
slat ._ "gaged in agi ieultural pursuits with that. of other
thatTi who wore differently employed, it would be found
refit 'ea' had sacrificed two-thirds of the population to be-
ina„t 'e.laantled interest. This system be conceived to he
a kr °tectionable, and it was attempted to be carried to
Lot :4" extent than formerly by this measure. He could
ttOneeive, from any thing which had fallen from the
altPrl thth
• Secretary, what reasons had caused him to
of 14'i° mind, and to depart front the scale of duties
,l4tinlrYvar• The Hon. Baronet then entered into calcu-
t'aatzio 'how, that when wheat was 50s. a quarter at
was ,e, r,iiich would be about the price there when it
9Plart49.het.e, it MO not he imported, including I2s. per
Pros,t for freight, and 21s. fad. duty according to the
4rajr,it Seale, rinder'B3s. Bd. per quarter, which, he con-
was equivalent to a prohibition. The great dif-
fah, 14 of the comnwree of the country had been owing to
hail principles of trade, and the Right Hon. Gentleman
'boa. I°Aelfshown this to be the case. Ile had, moreover,
aarot° that the farmers on the continent had adopted the
444 ilt?°,lletatia theory : and if this country acted on just
eral principles, they would have not the less ilitluz
new the continent. (Tire cry of question, question,"
m loud.)
he haj,iPORTMAN observed, that looking at the returns
uddiarq 11;4 hand, he had no hesitation in saying that the
Year 'nal 5410 of 4s was required over the scale of last
d If
44 ta any Hon. Member moved an amendmeint to re-
er:a"ols higher than 60Q he would support him.
s for • trr r• to with-
•v (lme now became clamorous strangers
tr4i.t'y and rt division accordingly took place on Mr.
Cal-
ra.eridtnent.
4\thk, amenthneut 58 1 Against it..... 202Ti,p.
"lai°rity in favour of the resolutions...l44.
rep„‘dresolutions were then agreed to. The Chairman
text. Progress and obtained leave to sit again'on Friday
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the d• - ()ranch of the Bank of England, under.
t ~„ irecti,,, , • ,
4 `,o;venz..),-- oz GEOR,G.F. CAiilt,,Eaq., commenced bus:neci
Si, -"e-Aipou-Tyne on Monday last.
!"ttkt ..AGITI-Ait OCCURRENCE.--4 scow bfl9Pg"
"44g -44')C• WATT, Mill of Corskie,. parish of . Cluny,
PrNelii °l' the Bth instant, died in labour, he, with that
Ler 4i,fe of naiad necessary on the occasion, cut a. hole ;n
l'''t havS44°46which he took out thirteen fine pigs
the Vera", 4° modstant, a few, of them them died before
Whose 0„:"'"wit8 finished.. The- rest •he put to a soar
late; the bne PIP Were thirty days old ; and, strange to re-
nd. care gin this new charge with as much tenderness
ate theva:if they had beet,' her own offspring, and'at this
' -re doing well.—lnverness Journal.