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London, England, 1828-05-27 00:00:00

the inside of the House and certain official personages,
and another more important conversation takes,place
outside of the House. , A person appointed to take
note of all majorities and minorities, in order that
he may be able to state how every member 'stands
to his colours, gives his opinion; and another
person, who acts for the masters of those who are
sent into Parliament, is also consulted; and thus it
is not difficult to cast up the probable majority or,
minority in case of a change. Now forhis-own part
he thought the King of England would he placed in
a far more desirable situation, if, in forming a Minis-
try, he had the people at his side, instead of the
Duke of Rutland or Lord Cleveland. In saying
this, he wished to speak of the Monarch, as he
would do of all other Magistrates, with the utmost
respect. He was willing to view him ••••-•
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" Of grace and goodness, as with crown and ball."
In conclusion, the lion. Gentleman observed, that
he looked to the directions of his constituents as his
guide, and if he ever differed from those who sent
him to Parliament upon any great public question,
he would at once restore to their hands the trust
which had been confided to him ; for it should, un-
der all circumstances, to the end of his days be his
pride and boast that he had never abused or be-
trayed the confidence his constituents had reposed in

him.—(Applause.)
Mr. HUNT next addressed the company. He ob-
served, that when, in 1807, Sir Francis Burdett was
returned for Westminster, he was, perhaps, the most
popular man in the kingdom.—(Cries of " So he is
now.")—The Hon. Baronet at that time talked of
the Constitutionbeing crucified between two factions,
as Jesus Christ had been crucified between two
thieves, and he had heard the Hon. Baronet with
delight, speak in Palace-yard about " the House
over the way," which he declared he did not wish to
enter, because " he disliked bad company and bad
hours." It was on account of sentiments such
as these that the Hon. Baronet had been elect-
ed for Westminster. He had not, however,
heard him reiterate them recently. He was glad
to hear the Hon. Baronet speak about the import-
ance of Parliamentary Reform, and he wished- to
know why the Honourable Baronet had given up his
annual motion on that subject ; and he was not a
little surprised, that last year the Hon. Baronet had
joined the phalanx of that Minister who was the
most uncompromising enemy that reform had ever
encountered.—(Much noise.)—He was sorry that a
spirit of this kind should be manifested; and he
could nut help recollecting that a person who dif-
fered from the majority of the company in opinion,
at the last dinner, was expelled from the room by
force. In such cases, argument was the only fair
weapon--(An elector. " Cobbett was pulled out,
and justly pulled out, on that occasion.")—The
Hon. Baronet had spoken of monopolies. Let him
look to the corn monopoly, ivl►ich, if he understood
the Hon. Baronet's speech, he had supported.—
(Uproar.)—The Hon. Baronet had said, that the
system could not go on without high prices. He knew
that high prices put large rents in his pockets, whilst
his poor clients were starving.—(Great noise.)—The
Hon. Bart. declared, that, if the dispute were between
the grower of corn and the eater of bread, he would ad-
here to the class he belonged to. Earl Grey, in the
House of Lords, stated that he would stand by his
order, and, if they went into the city, he supposed
they would find the Aldermen very anxious about
their order, but the greatest order of all was the
people, and he wished that they would look firmly
to their interests. (Applause.) The Hon. Baronet
had spoken of Catholic Emancipation as being a
most important question ; and yet, when in 181,
Mr. Hay, the agent of the Irish Roman Catholics,
pressed the Hon. Baronet on the subject, he treated
the subject. lightly, and would have nothing to do
with it. He (Air. Hunt) had' been lately in Cork,
and be found the people there of opinion, that Ca-
tholic emancipation would not cure the evils by
which Ireland was afflicted. In his opinion Catho-
lic emancipation would never be carried, unless the
people of Ireland joined those of England in peti-
tioning for Parliamentary reform. In 1823, when
a million and a half of persons petitioned in favour
of Parliamentary reform and universal suffrage, the
Hon. Baronet refused to support the prayer of those
petitioners. Indeed, he did not see a single politi-
cal feature in the character of the Hon. Baronet in
1828, which was at all similar to those that he
viewed with pleasure in 1807. (Much noise.)
Sir F. BURDaTT, in proposing the health of "J.
Wood, Esq. M.P. and the reformers of Preston,"
took occasion to answer the observations of Mr. Hunt.
The urbanity with which the Hon. Gentleman had
spoken entitled him to a direct answer ; and he was
sure, that if the individual to whom the Hon. Gen-
tleman had alluded as having been ill-used on'a
similar occasion, had conducted himself with the

temper which Mr. hunt had displayed, he would
have been heard with civility and attention. He
could not now go into a dissertation on the corn
laws, although he was ready to state his opinion on
that subject there or anywhere ehe. He had col-
lected all the information on it that he possibly
could, and having come to a particular opinion, he
could not succumb to any body of men, and, with-
opt conviction, profess to abandon that opinion.—
(Applan:4o-1-1e had no hesitation in saying, how-
ever offensive it might be to the ears of some, that
he was for high prices. They were the salvation of
the country. By them alone could the taxes be
paid ; and a debt that was incurred at a period of
high prices could not, as he conceived, be liquidated
by low Fifes. This, however, was a most intricate
question, which could pat he discussed in that
room. Whenever it was fairly brought forward,
he would state his opinion, and if he were con-
vinced of the erroneousness of that opinion, no man
cot,id lie more ready to retract his error, either in the
House of Commonq elsewhere-.--(Applause.)
The Hon. Gentleman had perverted part of what
he (Sir Francis) had said. He wisheiltO shoW, that
t!;e country gentlemen of England were not bene-
fitted by monopt —that, in fact, they and the pub-
lic had but one interesf. lip went farther, and
observed, that as a country gentleinan, he would, if
they wee inikirly opposed, do as other men would
do—namely, refrain *with that class to whom he
was particularly attached. Now, in mentioning that
point, it should not be forgotten, that it had reference
to a dispute—to a combat between the manufactur-,
ing and landed interest. With respect to Mr. Hayes,
he woad merely say, that when he was. applied to
that'ieritTernan) he asked,'; y4r. not Ff';
for Parliamentary YefOrbitiateadoc4th6li'c 4,,r!rnan7
c;pocii Ihitt 'fie 'Might be-allOWed to'add, that
he was not die;; 13".? such interested fOr the Boman
Catholics as he was at preseut. IV; yid rot at that
time know so much of Ireland as he now
( A.pplcuse.) With respect to the support which he had
given to Mr. Gaiiiiiiv,he considered that he was right
in conceding to him that suppo4, becapse h4d
been the 'means of brealcirig dOWii the'plialanx, who,
if iu power, would have.oppoSed Until docimsday any
approaCh i`o r40rr0..--( Cheers.) And becatise he
conceived that Mr. Ca»ning.ivotild liewe-eirtiOd
Catholic question—a question on which his future
fame rested--and by so doing,would have settled for
ever the gi.;;;;t, ,tiestion of religious liberty in Dig-
land.--(Clieers) Lr concliii;;on, the Hon. Baronet
observed, that Mr. Hunt was rniitaken in supposing
that he had refused to support the prayer of petitions
having .ia:iverstil suffrage for their object. He had,
on the contrary, presenk4 many petitions of that
descriptiOn, and he'Should liapp3,l to do so
The health of Mr. .I:'Woo'D was then drank,' 11
brietly ret ne:4:
,t hank's.
Sir tuaorei. then'ap..logi•jed for the absence
Ferr Lords 'Ny. and d;Russell, Lord Nugent, Pi;i-t
Eth,iiingtont Mr. Ponteit Thompson, &c., and pro-
posed die hc;Stli of Mr, A. Dawson, and the 'Re-
formers of 'Mona."
Mr. D'Awsox returned thanks. "The Liberty of
the Press'," " Trial by Jury, and the Independence
of the Bar," and " The Cause of CiVil and Reli-
gious Liberty throughout the world," were then
-thank, and the company soon after sepalated,