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London, England, 1821-04-10 00:00:00

PARLIAMENT,

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lIOUSE OF LOADS, Aram 0.
`Fitt Marls of Charlemont, Kinnoul, and-Rad-
nor, and Lord Abercrombie, took the oaths and
their seats.

C43II3IIIDG£ UNIVERSITY.
The. Duke of GLOUCESTER had in his hands a
Petition from . the University of Cambridge,-
praying that the Bill new in progress through
the House fOr'the relief of the Catholics might
not pass into a law. In consequence of the situa,
tion which. he held, he 'conceived it to be his duty
to present the Petition, but on this, as on former
occasions, he wished it 'to be understood that he
should not take any part on.the Bill now before
the HouSe.—The Petition was then read and laid
on the table.

MISCE LLANEOUS.
Mr. Serieant •ONSLOW.and others • bought up the Irish
-.Law of Treason Bill, with an . amendment, fnin the Com-
mons; and,. on the motion of Lord HOLLAND, the amend-
ment was-agreed to, and a message was sent.to the- Commons
to inform them that their Lordships had adopted their amend-
ment.
iiconnt SlDMOUTHpresented a Petition from the Corpora •
tion of Falmouth, against the Catholic Bill.—Laid On the !Able.
The Earl of HA RRO WBY presented a similar Petition
from Newcastle-under-Lynn.—Laid on the table.
The Marquess Of ANGLESEY' presented a similar Peti-
tiOn from the Corporation of the Boroughof Caernarvon against
the Catholic Bill.—Laid on the table.
The Marquess of CAMDEN presented a Petition from the
Corporation of Canterbury.__Laid on the table.
Similar. Petitions were presented by the Bishop of Ch'ester
from the City. of -Chester,' And • the Archdeaeonry of Wells, in
the Diocese of Bath and*Wells. By the Bishop of Ely; 'from.
the of and, by the Bishop of Salisbury, from the
City and the.Archdeaconry of Sarum.—Laid on the table.
The Marquess of -BUCfcINGHAM; presented. Petitions
from the Farmers of the southern part of Buckinghamshire,.
and from the -oWriera and'accupiers of Land in the County- of
Buckingham; praying for agricultural relief.,-Read, and laid
on. the table.• ,
• The 'Earl of FORTESCUE presented Petitions from the
Owners and Occupiers of Land in Six Parishes of the, County
of Gloucester, praying for agricultural relief.—Laid on the
The Bishoo•of ST. DAVID'S presented Petitions from the
Clergy of the • Diocese-of St. David's, and from Five Parishes
in the said Diocek., against. the Catholic Bill.—Laid on the
table.
The Earl -of VERULAM presented a Petition to. the same
effect from the toynofSt. Albans. Laid on the table.
Lord ROLLE also presented Petitions against the Catholic
Bill from the Rectors and Churchwardens of three Parishes in •
.the City of Exeter.—Laid on the table. •
The. Earl of EALCARRAS presented a similar Petition
from the Dissenters •of • the Staffordshire Potteries. Laid on
the table.. . •-• • . .
The Marquess of LANSDOWNE presented a P.;,,tition from
the Owners and Occupiers of Land in the County of Wilts,
praying for agricultural telief. Laid on the table.
POSTPONEMENT OF THE CATHOLIC BILL.
The Earl of DoNouGnmo RE said, that though
no man could be more anxious than he was for
the passing of that Bill of grace and justice, and
mercy, which had come up from, the other House
of Parliament, and which related to that class of
their fellow. .subjects who• professed the Roman
Catholic religion, yet as it was desirable that on
a subject of. Such importance. they should have as
full an-attendance as possible, he wished to post-
pone the second reading for .a few.days. Know-
ing (hat the feeling of the House went along with
him in the opinion of the great importance of the
measure, and aware that many Noble Lords were
now on the road who were desirous to take part
in this discussion, he should move that the order
which stood for to-morrow be discharged and
that the lititise be summoned for Monday next,
which he understood would be the day most con-
venient to all parties.
Lord .13,0r,LL thought it rather hard upoit those
Noble Lords who had regularly attended their
Parliamentary duties, that any delay should take
place •on account of those who had absented

themselves.
The Earl of DoxouonmonE suggested, that
whatever advantage the advocates of the Bill
might be expected to derive from the proposed
delay, it would at least afford the Noble Lord an
opportunity of adding to the number of his Peti-
tions on the other side.
Lord Ror.Lt said, he was much obliged to the
Noble 'Lord for his hint, and expressed his con-
viction that the more the subject was considered
and discussed, the more would the Table be co-
vered with Petitions.
The. LORD QUANCELLOR wished to ask the
Noble Lord whether he was determined to bring
on the motion on Monday next ?
• The Earl of DONOUGDMORE said be would un-
doubtedly move the second reading on. Monday,
and lie hoped the, Noble and Learned Lord would
be prepared by that time—(a laugh).
The LORD CnrusCELLoa said he was prepared
for the -discussion to-morrow, or any other day,
but he had important duties to perform, which
made him anxious to understand whether the
debate would certainly take place that day or not.
The Earl of DONOUGHMORE replied,- that he
had no wish to interfere with the very impor-
tant.duties of the Noble Lord, and therefore, he
would distinctly assure him, that on Monday he
would undoubtedly propose the second reading'
of the Bill. The motion was then agreed to, and
die House ordered to be summoned for Monday
next accordingly.
On the motion of Lord,Hor.LANn, their Lord
ships agreed to the Amendment made by the
Commons in the Irish Treason Acts Bill, and
a Message was sent to communicate the same
the House.
GRAMPOLIND DISFRANCII/StAIENT BILL.

The Earl of LAUDER DALI presented a Petition
from the Borough of C rampound, praying to• be
heard by Coimsel and Evidence against the Bill
now in progress, for the Disfranchisement of
that BoroUgh.
The Earl of CARNA !iv° N- said that if the Pe-
titioners were now prepared, he should have:no
objection to the prayer of the Petition,-but if, as
he apprehended, the object of it was to inter-
pose delay,and get rid of the Bill by a side.:wind,
he should. certainly resist that mode of *defeating
the measure.—What he proposed was, that they
should •go into the evidenCe now the holidays
were approaching, and the Bill had already lain
three weeks on their Lordships' table, so that
even without considering the length of its
progress through the Commons, the Peti-
tioners had ample time to be .prepared.
It was not a little extraordinary that they
should now think of coming forward for
the first time. Unless- it was their Lordships'
wish to put an extinguisher on the' Bill, they
could not object to proceed immediately. He
was not one of those who would shrink from the
performance of -his duty, but if they postponed

',the present. Pill so as to defeat it, he would -not
pledge himself to Undertake the introduc=tion: of
it again after such a proof-of their dispositlou to-
wards it.
The Earl of LAUDERDAr.c cl.ttied that the Pe-
titioners wished fur any unnecessary delay, and
said that they -had instructed him tdt,t.ate; that if
their Counsel had not been absent they- would-
ready to proceed that evening. -
The Loki) CHANCIEL;II.,OR'Saiii, lie would be as
unwilling as any one to agree to an unnecessary
postponement, but if only a few days were asked
for-an important purpose,' the case was different.
In the ordinary Courts of Justice it was neces-
sary that a person should 'receive notice of -trial
some time beforehand,- and here, when notice
had been given, it was only reasonable to ask
for sorne. delay. •• •
The Earl of CARNARVON observed, that the
Bill had been 20 days on their Lordships' Table,
it was a matter of public notoriety, and there was
no person Whose duty it Was to give notice of
trial to the Grampound parties. It was also' to
be recollected, that they had summoned
,unwil-
ling witnesses, who 'might be:tainPered with in
the mean time.
The Earl of LAUDERDALE disclaimed any wish
.to get rid of the question by a side wind, or to
avoid stating the obiections• which he felt to. it in
the face of the country. • .
The Lotto CuANcr.r.roa could not help think-
ing, that 'if there -were persons in Grampouud
who were innocent, they ought to have the be-
nefit-of Counsel upon•this measure, which, *as in
effect 'a. Bill of Pains•and Penalties against- them.
Lord If or.r.Alsto thought-that the regular course
of proceeding would be to agree to•heari the Pe
titioners by Conisel, and then to proceed imme
diately-, unless- proper reasons for postponernet
were stated at the Bar.

. .
The Earl of LAUDERDALE said, that all the
Petitioners required Was a delay of three days,
and moved, that the second reading should- be.
postponed till Friday. •
EarI•GREY never heard a proposition for delay
so ill supported. No manoeuvre would be more.
effectual to throw out the Bill than such-a delay.
The discussion in the Ilouse of Commons was
alone a sufficient-notice to the-parties. •
The Earl Of WEVEMORLAND was decidedly fa-
vourable to delay.
The Marquis of LANSDOWN was ready to ad-
mit that if when the• Bill .was brought. into this.
House, a fortnight ago, the Petitioners had re.-
quested delay, it would but have been reasonable
. to have granted it ; but now the case was entirely
altered, and a more suspicious application than
that now made he scarcely ever heard of.
The Loan CHANCELLOR, said, that he • was of
opinibn that the Bill might not to pass: As for
his part he had no anxiety to have the question
postponed, he would as soon be chained there
that night as any other ; but in justice to the
parties, he was of opinion that some delay was
necessary.

The Earl of LtvEaroo:r. suggested that the
question should be postponed to Wednesday twit.
After a few words from the Earl of CARNA
YON, the second reading of the Bill was postpon-
ed accordingly.

UNION DUTIES.
The Earl of DAnNLEy moved for the Copy of
a Memorial presented to the Lords of the Trea-
sury, signed by the Governor of the Bank of Ire-
land, praying for a modification of the Union
Duties, imposed by an Act of the last Session of
Parliament.

After a few words from the Earl of Limr.RicK,
the motion was agreed t 0.,• The House then ad-
journed till to-morrow.

lIOUSE OF COMMONS.

Mr. R. SMITH moved that the short-hand writer on the
Committee appointed to try the merits of the. Iledon Election
Petition, have leave to give evidence at the 3liddlesex Sessions
on an indictment for perjury.-;-Leave given:.
CORNWALL PETITION.

Sir W. LEMON presented a Petition from. the freeholders
and inhabitants of. the County of Cornwall, praying that her
Majesty may be restored to her rights ; that the country should
be relieved from a portion of the burdens by which it is now
borne down, particularly from those taxes which afrect.the
agricultural interest ; and, finally, that the Houseshould agree
to a moderate reforth.

Mr. xIIEMAYNE concurred with the Petitioners in their
prayers f; sr economy, 'and fbr the restoration of the 'Queen to
her rights, but he was opposed-to any measure for changing
the constitution. of Parhament..—The Petition was laid on
the Table.

Mr. ASTIXY presented. four' • Petitions • from Melkshair,
Trowbridge, Bradford.- and another manufacturing place- in
Wilts, Trayinglor a Repeal of the Wool Tax. , •
Mr. 1. BUXTON gave notice, that on -Wednesday the I?th,
he should call the attention of-the house. in the Papers which
had been presented to it respecting the linrning•.of-?Witiows on
the Funeral Piles of their Husbands in India.
Mr. TB.EM Al. NE presented four Petitions from the County
of Cornwall, .complaining of Agricultural Distress. •
Capt. WE3I VS presented a Petition from Kilkally, against
the Duties on Norway Timber. • . . .
Mr. 11. 'BI Allt •presented a PetitiOn from the Society of
Solicitors against the Court of Session Bal. : • •

CORN AVER: -0
Mr. BARING presented a Petition from the- Proprietors
of Bonded Grain at Dundee, agailist .my alteratit-. of the ave-
raps of corn, or any measure that -would tend to advance its
price.—Referred to the Committee on Agricultural Distress.

FOREIGN WOOL.::-: • • •
Mr. T.-WILSON. presented a Petition from. certain 'Mer-
chants and Cornfactors. of the City. of London, and certain Im-
porters and 'Consignees of foreign. grain., on the same subjeet._
Referred to the Committee on _Agricultural Distress.
Mr. T. WILSON. then presented- a Petition from contain
Manufacturers, Merchants, -riral Warchouseruen. °film: City-of
London against the Foreign `Pool Tax,.
.- ..To show the injurious
operation of the tax, the Hon. Gentlernalf etated several facts.Ile had 'received information . American ship4,bing
loaded with wool from Spain. •. Ile,- bad- also-intelligence from
Liverpool that 250 bags of wool, unable to:pay ,the duty,. had
recently been shipped from that port to America.; The opera-
tion of the duty complained of was. thise.t forced foreie,n wC6I
that used to come here to alter countries where it could be Ma-.
nufactured. There, in.conSequence of ear laws, it was obtained
at a cheap rate; and acting on this principle, we.madc the 1)6-
ple of the United Stat2s Inanufw:turcrs, whether they would be
so or not. • We • thus deprived ;Ourselves of a•profitable trade
whist it had hitherto been the policy- of ,:this country .to enem-
rage. He had a conmiunication from a manufacturer that
morning, who told him that so far from.havhig the sale he for-
• nierly had for cloths, he ...Considered nearly the whole of the
• trade to be -lost. Rethought it behoved those who.had propos:A
this measure for the relief ofthe..agrieultural interest, to consi-
der whether they had not done others much harm, without doing
themselves any good. •
Mr...BARING said, as a Noble Friend of hi', !lad given no-
tke of a motion for the repeal of the Wool Tax, he would tot
now detain the Rouse by going into the suNeat, but he was of
opiniortthat a more importunf, question conid not come before
Parliament. If the house did not attend _to the Petiiionti on
this subject from various,parts of the!country,. he Was 'afraid
that we should be in danger of losing the•woollea.tride.
Mr. lIUSKISSON thought ...it would be better- to .go into
the subject when, the motion o' which notice had been given
should be made, than • upon. the et'-parte • statement just
.made by the /lon. 3leuiber for he City of London, acd • there-

fore h 2 shoun init'Ve whet he had to gay On- the stthjert for
a lature.occ:asio;.. The pi:tide...l was orlertd bc printed.
NEIVINGTON, SELEV.c.!. .p
Mr. H. SUtriNER revival of the l'tiewingthn
lect Vestry Bill Committee. fie itnew tiie House vas unwill-
ing to hear any details'on the ant:. he abStain-
ed froni entering into arty ; and-slionit! nak,: intq.i.on simply
hoping that. the Coniniittee N=Tuld enter ilpoh 2 hns'ivesS
tni
the'honest intention of consi,"..ing the merits of the ca.se.
Mr. BENZ! E2' praisai thecoaciatoq In inner -in which.
the lion. Member for Sarrey t
he willingly assented.

A conieisation took place as to el:, day on w7dell the Com
mittee b:lould begin to sit, 41ether to-morrow or o-a Friday,
Intwecn Mr. It. Sumner, Mr. DeniAon, P.. V;(11!..m Sir V,"..
Crespigiiy, and Mr. Aldernem Wdod ; it wits itaall; agreed
taat the Committee should sit on Wednesday. .

CON 'WAY . ti 1)(1.E.
In a Committee. of tltc wl;ole lipase, CANNINd- rose
to ,:nove a .11r ant to defray t:l2 expense& .I.recti:4 a kfiidge
Uoilway Ferry. lie should then m :colove that an and
be paia on the .postage of ad letters carried over it, aad the surn
thus raised, vita the toll that, would be on it, would ireet the
elh*.:.wo, so that'ultimately the public would be Paid the sum
which it was now proposed to advanc•.!.. lie moved. that a grant,
not exce,:ding sh.mli. be made, cat of the Consolidated.
Fund to defray the- ::-iponce of erecting a fridge over Conway
Ferry.

• •
A conversation. -of some „length is which ;lir: J.
'Smith, Mr.- Bennett,. Mr. Abercroniby, Mr. liuskisson, Mr.
IL Parnell, Mr. Aid. Wooa, and Kr.- Com:pbell
took a part,-after yid* the Resolution wa.s-agrewl to ; a WZIS
one for imposing an idditional charge on the pt.Nstage of Letters
passing over the. Bridge.
he llobSe then resumed, and the Report OE the Committee
was ordered to be received to-morro-,V.
Mr. Alderman Woos pc tinted .a petition from the Manu-
facturers of the town of Chippingham, in against
Foreign Wooh—Ordered to Ile on the table.
Mr. 1-',ENNETT ga've. notice, that On - the 17til May, 1-. e
would move for leave to bring in a Bill for, better C,e
independence of Parliament by excluding Place::::
in that House. • •