The Sun.
London, England, 1810-02-17 00:00:00

NAVAL NEW-'."

PLYMOUTIii FEB. 15.---Yesterday a Ffanlan be,
longing to his Majesty's ship Raleigh, hung hint-,
4elf at the' gewsprii:ena of that ship.
The' Raleigh, with her convoy, bound to the East-
ward, was obliged to put back last evening, by.con-
trary winds.

Arrived the brig Ann, of Poole,R. STANNvo,t,,
Master, from Newfoundland, laden with . oil, and
seal-skins, bound to Poole, put in here by contrary
by contrary winds; was captured by a French pri-
vateer, and recaptured by his Majesty's ship Plover,
Cavain BROWN. The brig Belin, of Jersey, P.
GALLEY, Master, fromLi,bon, laden with salt and
fruit, for this port; about the I.st Oaober, she, was
captured, by the Grande Decide .French privateer,
in lat. 49. 20. N. who took out the Master and
crew, except two seamen, -and a boy who had se-
creted himselfin'the hold; a Prize-maSter and seven
seamen were then sent on board the Belin, who
kept` possession till about the Bth November, whin
the two men and boy rose on the French crew, and
succeeded in throwing the "Prize-master overboard,
and driving the 'remainder into •the fore-cabin, where
they were battened' down they were, in conse-
luence, in complete possession of the vessel until
the 13th November, when the Frenchmen rose on
them, and killed the .two seamen, leaving the boy
to tell the fate of his brave companions; a, few days
after, she was boarded by the Inckfatigalle schoon-

ei, belonging to Bristol,. who took possession of her;
and sent the Frenchmen on board the schooner ;
two days subsequent she was fallen' in' with by his
Majesty's skip Vestal, who carried her into Lisbon.
ArVived the Portuguese ship Admiral Aelson,
from Rio Janeiro, bound to London,-put in here by
contrary, winds ; the AmeriCan brig Eliza, Soth-
MON NORTON, Master, from Tarragona, laden- with
with wine and brandy, bound to this port for orders.

Sailed his Majesty's ship Dreadnought, for Basque
Roads ; his Majesty's • brig Raleigh, with a convoy
to the Eastward ; the Agenoria, Le cocet, for Al-
derney ; Union, DAVIS. for Dublin ; Devonshire,
ROWELL, for
.Corunna-; Sopltici,'-, for Guern-
sey; Tamar, FisuLEY, for St:Michas.

PORTSMOUTH,: FEB. !G.—Came in this day his
Majesty's ship Lily, with dispatches frorn C4cliZ
also his Majesty's ship Leda from the Eastward.
Arrived the Robert, Lucas, from the Ddwns,- for
Mogadore; the Unity; Bonny, froin Ipswicii ;
'WATSON;.. and Minerva, WEATHERHEAD, from
Sunderland.

Sailed. this day his Majesty's ships '.Own Glen-
dower for off Cherbon, gh ; his Majesty's ships Diana,
Marlborough, Pallas, Ganymede, Goskawk, Trian,
Tar4ar,.and Cyane for the Easlward; also his Ma-
jesty's ship Violet with a convoy for _Guernsey.
Sailed also his Majesty's ship Rifleman, of •18 guns,
C.lpt.lNtqcs, with a convoy for Fyal,.which are as
coder-mentioned, viz.
Alexander, Price; • Orion. Groves; Elizabeth, Carr;
ILiwk, Blue ; Perseverance, Snowden ; and Dixon, Snowden,
also for fyal,: the Pacific, for Amelia's Island ; ah.o
the ['llion,' Dove, for Waterford ; TWo Friends, Mant ;
Telemachus, Richards ; and Speculator, Langon, for Lon-
don.

His Majesty's ship Linnet takes convoy to the

Downs.

SHEERNESS, FEB.] s.—Arrived his Majesty's brigs
Chanticleer, Columbine, and Hearty.

COWES, FEE. 16.-Arrived here this morning
the American -ship • Huron, • Capt. 'CLARK,E, laden
with turpentine, cotton, and; other merchandiie,
from Wilmington bound for Cadiz with a super-
cargo on board. Said ship was taken by a FrenCh
privateer, who took out the supercargo and all the
cre,v, except.thefCaptain and two ;nen, and was
afterwards recaptUred by the English frigate Vestal,
and brought inter this port;

atAti FEB: 15.--Atrited -the Fisgard frigate

,
from a cruize'otr
• Sailed' the Tribune and Leda frigates to the West-
-ward. A Dutch boy is on the Goodwin Sands.
His Majesty's. ships remain as per last.

• RIXHAPI QUAY, FEB. 15.—S7iled his• Majesty's
ships Tonnant, Antelope, Ac and' Gambier
cutter.

, At the evacuation of .Clagenfurth, in Carinthia,
the French destroyed the fortifications at Grate and
Itaah. While employed in destroying a ravelin, a
FerNti t ofimtnense size, was foulid, which wound-
ed-seteral persons belott they succeeded in killing
it. Thi§ rep! ile weighed 6 pounds.
•
It may sometimes happen that in giving gold
boxes to particular persunc, the City may,.at the
some time, secure the fi-ealoov or those per its
'more etfeClually than by a piece of parchmat.
The other day JOHN MAL'D, Esq. of AldeNate-
stieet, received a letter by the Twopenny Post,
threatening his,life if he did not obtain the pardOn
of two men, whoM he convicied at the last Old
Bailey. Sessions of a robbrrv.on his premise's : the
tanguage was coarse and terrific.

0.em12: FEE.

EXTRACT 01, A LETTER.

"The news in this quarter is of so alarming a na-
ture,. that I have deem yd it prudent to hire an Aine-
rican vessel, and with her intend to proceed to
England, btu not until find the state 'of affairs is
such, 341 that no hope can. remain. The French
passed a strong division from Almaden to Cor-
dova, by the way of La
-Jars, Albania, Ferisa, Villa
Franca, and Trainsierra, surprising that town
before we were aware of their' approach. -By this
bold step they rendered all the fortified passes in
Sierra Morena of no utility, for as soon as the arm))
of the centre learned that a French force was-in their
rear, it instantly abandoned all the 'passes, and fell
back upon the kingdom of Jaen. In the trunk of an
Officer of rank of the army was found the plan of
operations of the French, written by',Morla 11411-
self, and the discovery of which was the cause of
the extraordinary march of the'Duke of Albuquer-
que to the Island of Leon. Tire plan of the enemy
w.ts to march direct upon Cadiz, leaving Seville
Upon • their right, which had so far been effed-
ed but as soon as Albuquerque learned thit the
enemy were at Utrera, and their plan disclosed to
him, he cut off by Mariotna, and arrived here, to
the :surprise of every one, at the moment the.Su-,
preme Junta was delivering up their power into the
hands of a Regency of their own appointment.—,
The people of Seville abc »ard the Junta alto
gether, declated their power null and void, and
formed another with the title, and upon tbe plan of
the old Provincial Junta. The people• instantly
obeyed its authority, and flew" in all, directions in
pursuit of the Members of the Supreme Junta, many
of whom they sticceeded in arresting.
-" We have just this moment heard that the
French have retired from ,their acianeed position,
and that the Duke del Parque has arrived, having
followed the steps of Albuquerque:!'

SC:CIEiT
FOR THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF ARTS, MANU-

FACTURES, AND COMMERCE.

At a Meeting of this emery useful Society, on
Wednesday evening, the Silver Medal and TWenty
Guineas were balloied for, and confirmed as a
bounty to the liev. JA-Miss BREMNER,- for his me-
thod.of making every ship's boat. a life-boat ; a
contrivance which will be found of great value to a
crew on: board a ship in danger of sinking. The
Silver Medal was also balloted for and confirmed as
a bounty to Mr. HUTTON for ail improved reaping-
hook. Mr. HorroN's hook possesses the advantages
. of ccubttling the sickle with theconnuon reaping-.
hook, and will enable those who have occasion to
use the instrument to get through more •work than
could be effected by 'tad one which has till now
been used.. It was found in the late hatvt:st a great
pte,erver, 'a .quantity of corn 'having been scat-
tered, owing to e heavy
On the second, reading of the Minutes of the .last
• M-2eting, which expresses the Society's -regret on .
hearing of the death of the late CALEB •WHITE-
FoORD, Esq. who had the honour of heing one of
the ViceAkres:denta of the Society,• and who had
..been a iVierub,:r -ior ift-ar halt a century, a motion
was made by Vy7milAtu Aleagnirti, Esq. that the
widow of Mr. NlYnyrEypotto be applied to, in the
name of the Inst:tation, as a mark of respect to the
memory of the d,-ceased,; to permit them to have
the .use of the best drawing or painting of the de-,
teas, din her posSession, for the purpose of taking
an engr ,vine 'from the same, to ,be‘prefixed as a
frontispiece to the twenty-eighth volume of the So-
ciety's Transamions. Mr. MEREDITH, in preficing
his [notion, paid many handsome compliments to
the memory of the departed (in which, indeed the
Society unanimously concurred), who Mr. NI.
with great feeling termed, his intelligent and faith-
ful fitend.

NAUTICAL QUIBBLE.

FATIIER.
A Sailor is a drunken sort.
And shall not .have"tny danghtet—

FRIEND.
How can it be ! Have you forgot ?

A Sailor lives on water.

I THE THEATRE.-After the. new drama of The
1 :F,ee Knights, last night, at Covent-Gordon Thew re,
a new Farce was- brought fu-ward, etitiih:d A Bud-
! jet of Blunders. The plot, :2s usual, is founded
upon- a love adventure, but the chief object was- to
introduce two characters for-Mu NDEN and LISTON,
each of whom considers the other as mad. TlArse
characters, were antnirably supported by boih.FARLEY also was very successful in suppoiting the
,
part of the Doctor for mad people. This farce was
not more iwprobab.e than many of the same kind,
t. and it altogether.very forcibly exercised. the risible.
muscles, It met wet h someopposition,
but was
szippuried . by a xery,large-mlori ty of .1 he audience.
It was written
.by Mr. GasvuuL, Author of The
Portrait of 'Cervantes, and Is he a- Prince? who,
I much to the honour of his feelings, devotes
she
r profits of all his dramatic efforts to the Theatr:cal
I Fund.

-As Miss BAILLIE'S new tragedy has been so well
received by the Critioi of Edinburgh, who are cer-
lainly not excelled in omit:tress, though they may
be in lenity, any where else, ills to be hoped that
the London Managers will think proper to bring
forward the work of a writer whose tak its do ho-
nour to her sex.

The Play of filches, or the Wife and Brother, is
now so'attracitve at the Lyceum, and his indeed
been so judiciously altered from the original drama
of MASSINGER, that it bids fair to rank among what
are termed the stock-pieces of the_ Loudon Stage. -
Alf. WALTER SCOTT'S Muse is .110 W, it seems,
employed upon a Leke. She shculd. be particularly
careful, lest a critical breeze should spring up,• and
sink her. •

UNrou-}141.1..--A case came on yesterday in,-
iween four .rope7makers, at Bimnondsey and no-
therhithe, and twelve of their men, the latter ~f
whom had struck, having demandedmatero
; .
nen- wages, and that they should also he allowed
i a dedudia qt 'two hours time each day from their
I work, with whiclj;the riia-vf.rs :refitcd to comply.
The Magistrates, after a loll; heating, held the 19
• men to bail, to 4r,isr.,:r at the next Sesiions.

. .
t Further particulars of Ore dreadful It
accident vfliic
' haPpened at Liverpool on Sunday morning last
I " The number in the Church, owing to the ac"
cidene taking pace near ten minutes previously to
the,tyrual time of Opening the service, was small,
• but awfully '.arge in the contemplation of humanity.:
Not more perhaps than from is to 20 grown Pere : I
sons were in 'the Church at the tine, and of these
the greater pvrt escaped ; but the children Of tr
' Moorfidd Charity School, who are regularly march"
ed in processiou from the School ,to the Church,
somewhat earlier than the time of service, had Par,.
ly entered. The boys following last, all escaped:
but of the girls, who were either entering the POrc..e
" or proceeding up the aisle, a great number we ,
instantly overwhelmed beneath the falltng- Pile'ee
-The whole number of bodies taken -out from t"
' ruins is twenty-seven. Of these twenty-tw° ll'er.
ir
either dead or died almost immediately after the e
removal ; five were taken to the Infirmary, and" 1
of these is sinee dead. , •
"The hideons-crashof the steeple, and the piers"
ing shrieks which immediately issued from -th°''ee
who escaped in. the Church,eor were -witnesses °, '
• the catastrophe .in the church-yard, immediatel
brought 'a large concourse Of people to the spot.--
The•scerie was, throughout the whole of the fore.:
noon, deeply atfe6ting. The parents of the chit
dren in the School, and a number of others, htirrti
.ing from place to_ place, enquiring the fate of their
children or -relatives, in the utmost agitation,
'hed ghtene4 in many cases by a long and awtitt.sus7
pense, and terminating in the extremes of joy cir. . .
sorrow, as they found the objeas of their search In
safety or among the sulißters.-
Accidents of this kied usually gite rise 10 maul
hairbreadth and surprising escapes, and the loil°",„‘
ing remarkable instances have been collet-led :--
The ringers, though apparently exposed to the:
greatest danger, Were ail
.fortupate enough to, escape'
with the exception of one, who was caught in the
ruins, along with a boy of i 4-. years of age, wh°
,was in the steeple at the same time. They were,
however, both itumedierely extricated by the exec" '
lions of the other ringers. The man was but
.slightly wounded, but the boy is since dead. The
'alarm, it appears, was given to the ringers by the
falling of a stone upon the fifth bell, which pre-
vented its swing ;. upop which they inunediatelY
rat, out. A_ momeet did not elapse betore the
bells, beams, and the upper floors fell to the bat-
torn of the totker, and their escape weuld
,liav
been impossible had. not the belfry been ore the
ground floor. ..
The Rev.
,L..Pughe; the officiating minister for the ,
.day, entered the church-yard at nineteen, minutes
past ten, having hi.nself noticed the clock upon his
entrance: He proceeded immediately to the great •
south door, and was in the aet of entering it, wade
he was slopped for a kw seconds by the children of
the, Moortield School, who ..% ere pressing into the
church at the same time. Upon his appearance; a
young woman, a teacher in the school, and one of
•tlie .unthrtun-te sutierers, began to separate the
children
.on each side to afrord him a. passage, ;Alen
he he.ird a pet-son exclaim, " fur God's sake, Mr.
tPuterlig)ehet,ateturn back." He stepped back, and looking
up, perceived the spite sinking down toAards the
edH. 15T19....-dia‘t.ly the whoto suit in.
The ' Rev. R. Ronghsedge,
,the Retior., was at
' that time turning the north-west corner of the
'-tower, and proceeding to the %eery, which is
also at the west end of tae Church. kiss Lady
-was already in the vestry, as were also Mr.
Coventry, the clerk, and the . sexton. - Tfic
t.t.ioerctii?crulintesti•atonrc:popt ehairss to have owed his safety to
.aking the way on the out-
side of the church to the
the more direct one of through the south door and
the west aisle.
pwaasMss i
ir),.g' i Knowles,thfrionri
it,eiiwe 'one orsyf 0
fttlotbetti
hCnegt 76
'iestry, in preference. tO
- ,
A person
. wesecraepebarlonkieosot
to atom,,
ruins. -
that in which be sat sustain;
he hi *1 • ' zatinL.ld,,ti'llelaieed i'is with a
.1.:011111CdS:libniUlli '
inset got out or the church uneurt. He re 4
prnuobodlitecfivot le:raannikLe, but ;tux , 'lvy, a
staoartnA,ezplii.v.unagp:c):,ty
vceGs,,r)oc:dbiL:frroocrphl,rlii.ii: -
astonishing
acknowledging a s-nperintending Providence, I"anY
conspicuous in the must atpareni eontirn;ent ev,11140
as in diretting, the' smooth and regulai. current YE
puma, elfin; s.
John tiandreth, one of the singers, was the only
person• in the organ gelery, whiter is placed in tll° -
eolith-west cornet of the clinic!), immedi3tety j"111:-
ing the inside of the tower. The organ, and trout 0'
the gallery were brought down and distien to pi..cefii .
and Brandreth wai buried in the wreck. Toe 111-
cpmbent weight was, however, sustained cy tit ,°
limbs which surrounded him in cross direeiemi, •
and he was deg out with no other hurt than. a Slight
cut in his forehead.
These are the most' remarkable cases Which Late
Hitherto reached US. '• '

In the speech which JEttomE BUONAPARTS mgel&
on. the 28th ulr. on the opening of the Sittings °I,
the Det; was the following passage : ,•
" The Emperor, my exalted brother, to
give to
this kingdom, which is his creation, a prcof of ll's,
• particular regard, has at this moment granted 'it ad-r.
vantages of high importance. A 9 soon as it shall be.,
iiermitted to make them known,, my people will
learn ..the value of these new benefits, and thego°4
.of which they will t;e prodtwtive."
• It is afterwards observed in the same speech---!.
• g! The arts, trades, and great uodertakings—in
'fine, every thing which,ccnti thutes to the riches and'
glory of a nation, can duly be coliivoted• with suc-
cess on an extended territory, and with the aid of a
numerous population." •

• Sic the receipt -of this intelligence, a letter has
Ip-en teceiyeA from Hamburgh, of which the fol-
lowing is an extract

"• We have just receive,' information, from un-
questionable authority, that HUONAPARTE has de-
clared his determination,-thflugh not yet officially, to
incorporate the Welty, of .31denburg, and the Elec-
orate of Hanover, with the Kingdom of West—
phalia."' •

Earl GREY has purchased NO'RTHCOTE'S fine pi-c-!,
tnre of the impriqomtlettt bf AUGYLE, as related 1,14
Mr. Fox's posthumous history.
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having at other aas of the Legislature ; but fit far the cognizance of Parliament. The motioe .stances .:,: hut he woUldask what comparison ditoTe
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he must again repeat, that their Lordships would be eves agreed toe . .- . was between any of .those instances and the case of
wattling to their own dignity, if they gave their LORD CHATHAM'. ~ . Lord Wellington ?He would opeoee the annuity oa
HOUSE OF PEERS, . assent to . a Measure which so, widely differed in , Mr. TIERNEY moved, that a. message should be Iles ground, the battle of Talavera possessed no
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FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 16. every, respeel from that of which upon mature de- sent to the Hone of [Ards, diet they g,leave to one feature of a viaory. After th we were obliged
bard_ Weesteneem preseuted a Petition on be- liberation they had alheady approved. . , the Earl of Chatham to come to the Committee, on to retreat and leave our sick in hospital. there, we
i 221 the ablers 'confined in the Gaol of Halifax, Lord GliosvENoß was al ea 1035 .to discover the Monday next, appointed to, inquire into the expetli- lost a tenth part pf our brave•ariny, and all by the - -
Yorkshire, and also Otte on behalf of Debtors
ft-run._...tfiYhn:ertr.rk_ailbo;letl.te Gaol of Kingston- :great ,weight of the objeaions urged against the lion toy he Schelde, which was agreed to', and Mr. rash condu6t of him who they .were,ove called on. - •
--Ordered to lie the present Bill by the Noble and -Learned Lord, 'Pierre' took the eordingly to the Lord's. to pension. But his Lordship was so doeneeted with
the more so, is lie acknoeledged that similar 0bj.,,-,c-, • General Lorkus, in pursutince of the notice he political men, that Ministers wish to pin his fee •
Air. le .
e,„ e lest resented the Re ,opt of the Comreis-
.!hotli.rs for Liquidatinghel to )aCqurt to - Mir-
lions might have been made to other axis of the Le- bad given in the Ccentnittee of -Inquiry list night your. They wisl - i was' . the •
the National Debt. —Order- gislature. He should not, howe.verelose sight of a moved, ” That an humble Address be presented to gifts • \Valency, and the( the true reason
rtteft Le on the T t I '
0.).e. • ' measure which he deemed of such necessity ; and It's Majesty, that he be graciously pleased to order why Lord Wellington was' made the
.subject of
The NI ,
taisi,- l't DAY Bill' was read a third 'time and he .should take -the earliest Opeortuttity to bring in to be laid before the HonSe a Copy of the:Memorial the present question.; Alueb had beee said *to In-
e.--e\V-a Bill which he trusted would not. be liable to such, presented to his Majesty by Earl itch it ham, explain d:a. The battles hi India had, he believed, research. e
, ale,ley's D sorce Bill was reported.- .
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the
_altri eus.S ACe E FROM HIS MAI es e• Y. . objections. hog the proceeding; of the late expedition to the .ei themselves-. Tnete was semething mote got
The LORD CHANCELLoR said, that whenever the Scheldt;" NVltich,inotion was agreed to. there than the hard knocks which our sahers le-
14;7 hi it is w .1.1. es LEY presented a Message from his
i tY', stating that his Majesty had thought proper to en- . Nob, ie,Earl brought in the Bill, he should then be Ordered, on motion-of Mr. MARTIN', that there be ceived in EurOpeati fightS. In Portugal !le ass
te., .
. Into .
0 I. pecuiliary arrangement for sit »ortin • the Military . ready to deliver his opinion. eespetaing its principle, laid bethre thep:Ouse an-acchnnit of Exchempter Bills, we could riot maietain wit- arniy, and therefool4
v.t7r4lioni or, the Kingdom opt i and !he policy of adoeting it. . out ':lading to the latest period, specifying ie.: Ails was done there was of no eventual setvice to this
T'oriugall 'again:: the common Lord Hoe LAND was among the Noble 'Lords s.vho- on which they ,Were issued, and on what charged. country. But if it were so, Portugal and Sp:tin •
1,-.0'7111Y, andlor empto)ing in that Kingdom an auxiliary
!on a former occioion, • expressed their opinion that Ale. Wnitreener) mored for ri)pies of all instrec- anus
be defeteied by other bettes than sueli ruinous
sai.-
.. not exceedingl,
30,0c0 men.- [For his Majesty's Nes' i the Bill should be made perpetu 4. He did. der, lions given to Lord Wellington in Spain and Portu- and destruhtive to
as the battle ef `Val ivera.—Lord
a.....re,isleee the eroceedings ot the Honse of Cominuns•] therefore, conceive the Noble I•tn.i Learned Lord to gal, and all dispatches received from him Opt° the Wellington tilked of advancing on the Ist of •Ato.
Message having been read, be •altogether cerrecl, when he .Staten that their . Ist of August, 1.8091. But. this motion was after- gust, yet, on the 31, he reire tte.l, tiles shesse,
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te„L°_. !Cie
.WELLEsLRy moved that it be taken into Lordseips Lad. approved only of suspending the wards with-draWn. . ing complete ignor•nee of the- sit...iatiori of floe
... "Lsoturdretion on Ttiesciay next. I power of granung places in retersion. -• I - - ,
LORD %V Et LI i•IGTON. - • enerny. He condemned also the mode in vtl,ich - -
. set,;ea Genbiviets teouglit it desirable that the 1 .The LORD CIIryNCELLOR said, he alluded to•the . h s_ _ ___ having
for
the that Noble Lord had &Tree' tted the assistenc,e tellich
ekee. of his Majesty's Messatee should be taken ! decision of Pal-haute:to not to tete opinions of huh- i.. The Order cif the Day been read, lie received from the Spainardi. Tm. -,:t bt.! tin
titi.,o, constderation oil the eArliespessible day. The ;visual Lords, as cxpresce. in the cure of debate. House, to resolve itself into a COnitnittee to take Oriental, but it was not an English' meth! of t ()miner.
muess ell; ~ hts Majes'ey's Message into cereeideratioti respeaing •At the same time lie sees went ' eu •t shoo{
• i‘deenhi ‘ll stood for Monday t a Metion of the I The question was-then gilt on the second reading
the !cs,°,.t. Laesdown re-peeling the Expedition to ,of the Bill, ,a4negatiyed without
.a. divisioo. a Pension_
.to Lord Wellington', the House resolve,e the oble, Load sur.viv :the manyg s‘corst‘pe"?llln'tuWltich
eaa, il thl)eWouict not b bruught forward on that ' The LoRD CIIANCEELoR .4At intived that the !leaf ttno -4 Cortimittee, accordingly"; Mr. Lush- tie led the British nreiy, that he might ,ns day be- -
1 ington in the Chair. ,
..he'l As Monday would therelote be an . open day, ; Bill le rejeeted, and the Motion -was agreed to with-' come an excellent Officer, and de erve ili. honours
Could s
a\leh.see eo oleceetien to their Con Sickling the . out a disision.--sAdjourned till Monday. . he MrsNage having been read by the Chairman, which he had prematurely received; Adtertine to
0
•e. age of ~ , •- , : The CItA.NCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER rose. In
—.1......-...
siow. - i tee ]Ling; but before that discussion the passage of the Douto, lie Obsened, sleit the oh- . •
for-
lars
of lake 1
place, lie tell anxious that the pail cu- :Hoy SE OF COMMONS.- . .1 many instancets '. he said, where the valour of jea of it, which was to drive Soult on TYlirshal Be-
1 mer individuals had signalized itself in the service of
laid tle arrangement aatided to in the Mes•tge be , .
eltritee, FEB. 1 t./.. , .resford's army, hart completely failed. He a suers -,
beforeroree the HoUse, that is, • :•1 their eountey, it had been the custom of that House the Hen. Gentlemen• that h ' • of
oppostte t e °proton
that the House be in- ,
PROPERTY, TAX IN SCOTLAND.
4i:11,4.1%4,1th Ny:lo.tiand'On Wilat tellIIS the arrange- • e Ito follow up the dignity of the Peetage with a pe- the, country on the conda.,l of Lord Wellington was
'I R , L. NIS•S• la he r6se ' ' *- (I
The leutto ADVOCATE O -C4T A.. ae, eumary smation., His Mejesiy had been advised, • • •
what
,:el,l heen made, or vvhae we were to-give, end very different from their b j atid concluded eith exe
forethe purpose sof moving for an account to uneo on rectivipg intelligence
.of the gl°ri°lls aild `1...", , pre,sing his decided dissent front the motion.
co
ki were to receive, in censeuence bt it. He
the impression which had gone abroad-, in conse• 'cisive viaory of Talavera, to confer on Lord Wel-
ch ti make a motion that night to the etlea ofMr. F. B.oBINSON. declared, that fresh as must ,
-ewe, qtience of the speech of a. Noble Lord
.‘(Mahon), I lington the. honour of the. Peerage—an hereditary •
Ile n ng that information, and hoped there would have been in the recollection of the Hon. Geath-
-oob o•--- • • •
jeetton to proctucmg it. . that Scotland did not pay a just proportuge of the honour which all -military men looked up to as the min, the brilliant speeCh of his Right Hon. Friend,
eido_r_d • , Property Tex and the Assessed Taxes, compared - grand' prize of their actions—an honour which shad
Weeehseee briefly enumerated the basis of d II e stet ments of two ‘olllaut \Oil-kers on a r
with what wes paid by England. The faa Was, the ever been considered as Allele best incentive and an 1' e i 0' Ate ' t
tr....„tirrtme,
mint, ' and, expresse I his readiness to .. . • cent ccceSloll .iie Was so; Di lieu at hi; opposition n-
th
7 t_s_eove_r), intortnation to his -Noble Friend. Noble Lord drew his calculations from the year best reward. -He • now called on that House the present motion. The- 'ion. bentleitan had ed. •
1806, *when there Was but six and a quarter tier to accompany this lutnour with a pension, but he ~
Tir,tl ki.R.ENYILLE then moved.an humble Address
.iced argentenis ahea y refuted, and had reiterat-
t paid in Shotla•id, and coineered it to the the . \visited to he' understood. that.
.he did not do so
cal . . . , .
pe,, Nlaiesty, praying lie would be. graciouslyed‘at stateinetets alreetly denied. V &tout entering
duce of the Property lax in England- forioneyPestr, in consideration of the advice he had. given his Ma-
le " to -threes that there. be laid before thatintoeiny invidious couiparisons, he was anxious that
ti4aser,theh document or paters containing the Per- when • the latter paid• ten per cent. Ihe Noble , jesty to create Loyd Wellington a Peels; . nor did lie Lord Wellington shoeld be rewarded, on tee grumid
Lord-did not either take into the account the tax ' rest upon the sole battle of Talavera, great and il- f} •
w
sens,2_,°r the Cen,..ention with Portugal, the per- o his OWil infrinSlc merits. He belt. entered into a -
, paid on Dividends tiansm-i:ted to Scotland, and 0:1 ' lusttious an achievement as it was. No, but he detail of Lord ;Arellitert-on's Milli ery inns ereems,
It h,,,71) whom it wits, and the terms upon which.'
Exchequer Bills, Which were r!aced to the accoont i would rest it'on the totrl sum of all his aelions— whir he contended 'Ddeserlved tee highest ate. e
"" been concl led
Lor , ~..... 11C • a England. The mode of co;ietting the taxes was that brilliant consummation .of rnilitery chitraaer, . r
probation end reward. The Honourable Gentle:m:ln
Lord ° WELLESLEY had no objeetion to the motion: , ...e.
,• • uitt rent from Ole praetice Of this country, as thete : which hat raised Lord Wellington's name to an opeosite had asserte:l teat the Peer ige had been
etGeetstrleez thought proper. to (Tive notice, e
order to tmere no Parochial Commissioners, but ti,e tax was' : equal height of glory whit the recorded, heroes of granted to Lord Wellingtou, to grAtify a Noble
iak_ prevent the 'suspicion of his . wishing to
collected by the ColleCtOr of the Lend Tax through- ; old,, and had enabled him to contend in renown with Alarquis for a partic,ilar pert ore. Seine allusion
eth,7. the House, or any Noble LOrd, by surprise, , , e thin
ti on mohhhh
.....h, his Majesty's Message lid out the country; rid mode of cone the the loftiest Chteletins of our own sat s. Lund Welling-
,, • LII b iouwas, he presumed, bete ini,,alit to the secussion !root
kinder
of ,a_ . coosideration, lie Assessed Taxes in Scotland eas .also different. Hu ton had; in his 'nest exertion;, more then earned qi of a
would call tee attention I
o; bee Leo a • • , .• . , e „,
'nem, LordshiPs to a msr ter which had been a'- ' therefore moved,— , meet. te ie. was why now tun. but he could assure that I inn. Gentlern3n that there • -
'cad). }often i " That the amount of the nett produce of the ' In India he had carried- the Brvish arms to a bio-her
/*es_ ~ n alluded to, Hamel}', the policy of our ..., , WaS no man in the comere who i hou,;lit mere legit
rroperty Tax in Scotland should be laid before the pitchof glory than they had ever beforeatteined there. 'l, ef Lord Wellington's des.erts than- Lk Nobie.
nd;..nt connettion with Portugal, and the propriety
House, from the period it commenced,. as far as - . He had led our trooeS to Oatory, unsullied by the Friend, or who was more anxien. that those dsserts
eirmin` all tie- eircums'ances 'of the moment of cone
,g to keep a military' force in that country; ' the sante could be made up ; also the nett amount blood of the unresistiog natives.. He had raised thee •shoel.l be duly rewardel The slime of Lord ‘‘,7e!,
of the Assessed TeXes since the year 11300, to the ••• British standard unpolluted in that country, • In. Pore lington was the a.!inir.iiioe of his cotemporaries
ahrthrd
House
motion wasehe agreed to, and to use the wilds of. Lora Hatchueou, when n
' I Hest per lord, distinettieliteg the amount of exit tugal Lord Wellington had (rained n(lorless which
'io htouse ordered 'o b summoned for Monday. i ' ~ .
year. equalled iv hatever the histor4f this cotentry recnrded. speaking of the gallant and revered Abercrombie,
, • rim REVERSION BILL. I After a few oleservatons from Lord Mahon; Mr. la the lest earnpaign he bad crowned all,---he pre-.1 .
would be." 7.ribtlined its the recelledioe of a gout - .•
Da
Ghee ,
. . (•,,s
ittititli tbi lel i. - ?YE...91t then moved• the. Order of the 1 ti. Thoritton, •Mr. Horner, Sir J. .kastruther, and seared himself to his i\lzijes,y, not as a man heel t 1
' g ful posterit y. [We morel that v, e late I.lot 0:1 op-
-1 tor the se cella teachoe of the Bill to prevent the Mr. Heskie.ene n, with respecato the internal rep- gained one'viaery,.but as
.a. G.:llora' who had fought I portunity of giving a more arryle detail of this G4ll-
- . Places _in' lieelrsien, or on Join, Lives, lotions of collecting the tare; in Scotlanu, the mo- indny battles, and had gamed fresh iaurele in them tlernan's speech, which was very forcible in reasote-
eea . neat of Sutvivorshipee-Ai soon as the order -ti(o-1 seas .put and i•greed to. all, who had achieved much for his country, who ing, and very, impressive in
by
.-s reed., . _
The. . • ' A Message from the Leeds informed the House had defeate,d her enemies, and rescued her allies; Mr. LI,iTLEToN could by no metals agree wilt
the
.. _. , Loito. Clieticeeeoe rose and nitived., that that their Lordships had agreed to the Malt and Per- such del he present himself to his Majesty v. hen his Hon. Friend (Mr. Calcialt) in his opinion, that
4.13 th of tl.e Minne read, or an Act passed in sonal Tat. Bill. the dignity of the Peerage. was conferred upon him. Lord Welltnerton was not already an excellent ()I-B-
labs for
sus . X?
aftes pending for one year, and fir six. weeks- - ' I,ord G. L. GOWER moved that there be laid te- The litrise would not sorely question the merits of eer. He did not believe there was a voice in the
r the then meetine of. Parliament, the. Granting fore the House a return of the names, numbere and such .a man. They had already granted him their i English or the French army which would not pre -
of Places • ' .',.
th,, es to Reversion, etc. The Noble and Learned , rank of the 'Military Staff employed in Great iln- tlitipks, and.in Se unaeimous a manner, that the i • noviece him such. Noe did he conceive that the
itiouseo.nserved, that he should at present coptent 1 • .
.rather a
Lain .specifying the amoole of their 'enelluments, opposition which was offered to it seented testae of Talavera was delicienl in the-chgrafteristics
ul If u,itli having that Act read, that the objet t toeetlier with the number of troops quartered its light shmuling, which served to shew forth stronger -
4'id spiritof •1' .fresh - '
the ~, it nog )1 be in Lite.th reed ,e eel 1 .
each distritt ; alga any report received by the Secre- the thee:tees, of their epprobation, than any material of victory. Of this, thehteee, that the-British army
'was not pursued by the enemy, was a seat:lent
' House. 1 tart' of State since last Session, of the number and dissent from the general feelings.of the House. In proof, for such had always been the practice of then •
Lord el...Rosette:on would have been glad to hear l state of discipline of the Manx Fencibles, which every former instance, where a title had been con-
Fwraesn,cehi.t—abSlitsiillle,dho4est:e;casr,
ilyi,,oumnigiitaas.ryt hcehl,\Ttr
jocbtleer:Lava.. _
.
lv,lartnwerc the obit:6l4ms which the Noble and I i termed, an tinnuity had :seen greeted. He demand-
motions
,were egreed to.
'4 ett Lord intended to uree aeainst the present 1 'lle CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER preSented 1&I no more for' Lord Wellington titan had been I open to him as Would heneeforsesrd be alkituations‘
till. il
e could not butet 0 ' ' Lied Flinch.' t- si to lof •-hetiour and •'profit, he felt it his duty to vote
Bill • ' persuaded that it was a 1 the Convention entered into between his Majesty I greeted to Lord Lake, to . I so. ,
'of grew importance a Bia which had excited 1 _ . Collin- wood, , . against -the proposed grant of the public 'money as
aid the Government of Portugal, which was laid . Lord Duncan to Lord Collhewood, aril to Sir R. 1- • -
•:t strong inierest in. the' pebl c mind, and which, • Abercrombie , but by enumeratine those ins'ance,, • •
hile •it iunneceesary. In doing this, he vs ished to guard
a.. other• endra% ours at _economy, under the i 'llie Rieht Hoie.Get.tleman presented a Messege 1 Ite,did.not whh it to be thought that he Conceived
I on Ilie- table.
• • Pressureof 0 :against the iinputetion of b • fl•
eing ite ueoced by parry
i motives; although with reference to' swells recent
he
‘) the burthens which the country now .1 from his Majesty, of Which the 'following is the the sertiees of Lord Welliogion insufficient in theme
tom ured under, could not be too anxiously attended I selves, ilno stich instances existed to justify a claim !
1 substance : . 'obseivetibus on that sue•ect, he - • '11.• e •
ss as el:, 1,.b to con-,
and promote I. Such, he etpeetee, would be the MESSAGE FROM THE KING. ion the liberality, of Parliament. He did pot shrine. '
, feiis himself so far a •pert-y),Mail, ill e. Its ut.,11 Leber-
impression at the present nionient, on the minas of 4. G. R. t from the faCt 4 Lord Wellington's own high and concur t.,Crith others to ci) airs a desirable ()hied thaii
I.ll±e,iirt Lenislitps ; but, much to his surprise, he had " His -Majesty thinks it proper to aegnaint the house of efficient deserts; they were the chief, the "(tidy ` presuneetaously hope to succeed -alone and itre••tip- ~'
''' informed that it was the intension 0, seine ithe reetiliar situation ofgrounds of present claim and ire. ri ;Hired no ,
Nobl r ' .t. 1 - iie • Commons, that his Majesty, under 1
' ' t ported. . .
General CeeWFORD thole a general v'eer of tile ' • '
e Lords' to maee theoretical o.,.tect.tons to the I, e.:-..trinsic circninstaf ices to establish. it. Btu Gentle.- i
hortugal, thinks it advisable to toy and rnaiimin a force,
1.141, wit hunt venturing to dispute thel whole of 1.01(.1 Weili'itgton's military. condu:',l, on
Its • propriety of i extending to the amount of 30,001 PorttlgUeSa trooN, in tnen miglit'thinic proper to refuse that anoint yon the
Plinciple. He should forbear entering on any i ~ which 1 .
ary • Portugal, and had entered into a convention to that ell'ed, , grounds of economy ; hut wbi.le the military bo- ; le prououticed a warm panegyric. He did
tlaletit in favour of the principle of the Bill, un- I note- of the country was at stake, wonha they think :-
11l ;and r lied on his faithful Commons to enable him to make i not know. any thing of the Nettle cord's cuceni-
~ he learnt what was the nature of those obje c- i e - I twp thousand. a-year unwortiiily,dispoed of,, e,hen,
stances, but from the liberality of lmis chseo-eleee •
good the same.,..,
probable he was not rich. ledeed ' lie li:id
tons which he was informed would be ad an it, they miget chill. that warm ~ wa,
ao-ii
0, Ilst the second reacting of the Bill. Ordered, that his Majesty's Message be referred by wit6ll"ldlng
• , glow, that military ferv.iur, wit4'l' \v.'s no' w'd•-'IY heard that he had -many
'rile Lotto CHANCELLOR again rose to state what Ito the Committee of Supply on Friday. . diffusing itself through -the country ? Wuel.ll debts to dtseharee. For
liis part, he never in his life concurred mere° heartily
occurred to his mind on rinsing the title of the THE HON. CAPTAIN LAKE. . they, on such grotaids, refuse to its.verd the m.m
• ran in tie presen . , .
'in guy vote tl • l t
present Bill, and in swine that :pinion, he tied • Sir. FRANcIS BURDiTT Said he rose for the pup- 1 whose auctions, brilliant and successful as they were, i
n , Mr. BARHAM conceivine that such a motion as
' khlvelo be understood stocliously to avoid delivering i pose of calling for the Minutes of the Court-Martial ;• 'first lit that fire of military ardour, which; beneath , *
! that proposed should be agreed to only when the
~ills sentiMents on the principle of the Bill, though l on Captain Lake, which he adverted to last night, ! their fiAtering .efire formed into a blaze, might yet !
, country had derived, or was likely to derive any ex-
. he should i traerditiary. benefits from thp action oe which it was
now object to its being read a second i and would move for the same now if there was no ' rescue Europe from her thraldom. I.ord Welling.
tfouitcled, and conceivingthatehe battle. of Talavera
ti,nie. There were two ways of viewing -the cotes- 1 objeCliothe--(A general cry of Move! move !) ton had earned with toil the honours he -had re -
was not an action of that descriptionefelt it his duty
thht• The objet ores he had te the Bill might tie 1 The Ceeeceeeoa of the EXClallett said, he. i ceived ;be had fought and bled for theen, he had
' .ure 0 , . • ,
.. -a s ,!11n s t the second reading, or it might he ' understood, that it was the objeet of the' Hon. Ba- I led our armies to victory hi-India and Portugal,
, ho oppose the' motion. ,
% t"uBllthat these oteeetions might be removed it i.i ronet to bring the matter under consideration of the ! and in Spin and weuld that House rest-contented Mr. HERBERT declared that if the bl dhoo ss
, s - the Committee on the Bill, and tl:at therefore it i House, and said, his moving for the• Minutes ROW 1 With -giVillc, Ilitil their thanks ? Was he to receive the battle of Talavera had only reshued us.'frtnn Wes
flight be allowed, to pass through the present stage; I would not be attended with any inconvenience. a title to be a burthen to hint ? Was a high dignity -• imputation cast upon us by Buonaparte, in the jja-
. he ‘,v• ,
as of a clitiereet opinion. - Idis objeaions to Sit FRANCIS Butteierr accordingly moved, "That i conferred by his Majesty to be converted into an niteur, that w,e were ready.to stir up the CoUtipent
'the Bill could not be remedied in a Committee, and I there be laid before the lipase, a copy of the Mi- ! injurious di,tinetion ?, He concluded by moving,.
. to war, but not tO fight ourselves, he should haVe .-
. Itherefoie he should able;; to a second reading. He flutes of the Court Menial, held on the Hon. Cap- " T'dat it is the opinion of the Committee that his Ma- thought it well spilled. As to a retreat after a battle
. - 0
st, therefore; their Lordships to consider .. tail Lake of the Ulysses." ' . jest}' be enabled to grant a Pension of 20001. per annum to
proving that the battle was no victory, the famous
- mu
i Loid, Wellington and• his two succeeding Heir:;, bearing his
-then own dignity, and the grevity. of their own Mr. Ronnie'. Wenn said, he did. not rise to give'
' title, and'that the House would make good the same." viaories of Agincourt and Dettingen, both followed
Proccedines, in taking the resent Bill into coml. any opposition to the motion, but to guard the House .
• derationit'and while lie reminded them of their own arainst a misrepresentation which had gone abroad," . Mr. HOWARD then rose, but spoke in so low a. by retreats, stiffic,ently evinced the fallaey of such
es
tirginity, he could never think of tleating otherwise that the man had not been heard of since, and tone of voice that he was scarcely. audble from the; an assertion.
General.Loreus expressed the high sense Which
e Gallery. We understood him to oppose the motion,
than gravely whatever came down from the other that he was murdered. He was conveyed to
the ground that the battle of Talavera was fol- he entertained of the extraordinary merit of Lord
House of Parliament. He had moved that the A&
..America, and he understood he was now on his re- on
lowed by none of the consequences of vidory, and Wellington in the battle of Talavera. The House,
of the 48th of the Kin read, and ie.would then t 'turn to Englatid.
appear, that when that House took this question 1 • Mt. C. ADAMS Said, he did not see the propriety
= • rather displayed ill-judged rashness on the part of 'after thanking that Noble Lord for his condua would
Imo consideration, they agreed to the propriety of lof i Parliament interfering in the business. Captain ~ Lord Wellington; than deliberate and skilful valour. surely not withhuld from him the reward which was
He contrastee the battle of Talaiera whit Lord proposed. .
sus Pending for ,the term of tete year, and for six'. Lake had beet) dismissed* the service., all his future -
IrFeks after the meeting f Parliament, the power ' oeospeels iii life were cut off, and he inikbt sayihat • Neleon's dee,sive victory at Abotikir, tor e tech that . Lord MILTON observed, that his Miejeety's Mi,
of granting places in reversion, &c. Now What lie was a vagabond on the world. It was certainty : great man e,.s. otily rdised to the Pesfyage w:111 a nistk...rs lea edvi-e4 hi 4 nijesty to g,: ;,t a.-ee -iv!
• did the present Bill propose ? Del it not propose a; cruel transaai,;n to land the man on a desolate . pcusion similar to whet was now proposed..eeelsow to the '.l`,..Vie Lord, tiemole i hey 1, p'-
noil.ing -;,, 40
but to com.:. down to the House of cOntribti. ::heft
to make retual the Ad passed in , i 808, which 1 i410:1, but hie WaS rel'eved by an Arnericen vessel,. t different weee the t eo. battles l. :
..
:T after some pre..rnetery chserva- demand a pension he hint. ,In fortuer timeS; tele:ter
Mr. CALCU AI , ~.. . . .
"A° only went to suspend the poser of granting ! ared wtts in a better situation now than :he probably. i .
places in reversion for atiout the term of 14 months? i oelterwiie would lions, observeci, that the Chancellor of the 1:4..xe11e- services has been pelfortned for 1:-..:,s' reward, i-.. bat
have been. He might consider •
queri had said it was the practice: of. Perlhtinent to latierheit Lid been the custerneo heap honour, up-
' It was unnecessary to dwell on the vast difference ii Ca pt. Lake as his bene'faelorh and dile had friends
,on 11.0110.;a.IF:, IlOt. Sci lit..lCil.petilail,. to sh6,l 1%.•,..tre.t,11
400 other circumstance; of :he present Gilt. There t pet unions they neght bring an naihn against the C•q)- . toitow the 6r•tt.it of. a Peerage with ati a inumty. In
were lin doubt instances of similar Girtttaisunces tato , but as he wae.teied already, the matter was the-* - support of tttts ermciple he had queted several in-, . the indiv.telal ueon w eon,' they were confereeo, as
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•, . •
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,

n the Government by whom they were bestowed.
Not seeing anything m the conduct of Lord Welling-
ton which deserved such-a reward as that now pro,
posed, he entered his protest against the motion:,
Sir F. BURDETT, adverting to an observation
made upon Part) 'by an Hon. Gentlernan'near him
(Mr. Littleton), stated his notions on the subject.
if Gentlemen were to Unite on -public ginunds to
promote public objetis, of such a party he should
wish to be one-; but the party to which heobjetled
was formed of those who United only for the pur-
pOse_of retaioitig or of . obtaining power and place;
of those ti ho, differing in an endless variety in t heir
sewn-liras, cone:turd only in. their votes. Anti;
ther Hon. Gentleman seemed to think that .the
s'•eddiiig of blond at Talavera wassofficiently justi-
tied by the answer which it gave to the sarcastic re-;
Mark of' the Emperor of France. Foehis partite
tiid not think our reputation so low as to require
such a defeni,'e. A third Hurt. Gentleman
hinted,at the debts of the Noble Lord who was the
- object of the present (notion. The people of Era,-
land had debts which they were un ible to pay, and,
it was theduty of their Representatives to take care
that not a single sixpence should be granted "in the
- way- proposed, unless upon the strongest and most
meritorious WWI respect to the military
part. of the present question, he was incompetent to
form an opinion, 'but the result of the campaign in
Simla was notorious. The fdilure had been eala-
mkaus—he would not say disgraceful, because such
an exhibition of valour at that she w a at Talavera did
not' deserve the dame; but whatever appellation
might be given to that battle, it
_certainly was not
one of those victories which deserted peculiar re
ward. Another objec• ion which lie had" to the pre
sent motion was, that it was diiected -against the
public purse. What would become of the patro-
nage of Government ? It had been argued in deft ace
sinecures, tha the abolition Of them would dry
up the sources by which merit was_ rewarded.—
Not long ago the Government of PortsmOuth was
vacant. Why was it not given to Lord Wellington ?
A circumstance had also recently occurred to which
it was painful even' to advert, by which his Ma--
jesty's Ministers would have • the means, if they
thought fit.; of rewarding Lord Wellington without
an appeal to the public purse. Under all these
circumstances, he should vote decidedly, against the
motion. •
Mr. FULLER was no judge of military matters,
but as a British subject- he could not bear that a
Min who had won 14 battles for his countryinen
should be denied a
.'paltry,pension- of 20001. per
annum. He could never speak too highly of the gal-
lant Genetal. He had courted his friendship (a
/allik). 'What did Gentlemen laugh at ?, believed
there. %%ere many who would'be glad of it. If the
pension should be retesed, what would the army
think ? What would.' the common soldier say ?
Why, it would be, " I sly, Jack, - you know
our - gallant Commander-, who so otters-led ns on to
victory, who conquered all before him, what pre-
vents- his havinga pension granted his services ?" (a
laugh " Why, you d%,-, the other will say," (Cries
0/' Order). " Order ! oh, very well, Sir !" exclaimed
the Hon. Gentleman. " Why, you roust know he
has a brother t.tho is something or other-01, ! a
Secretary of State—and 'that's the reason the greatest
man. in ilia county is denied, first,•the honoti:s due
to his valour, and afterwards the pension necessary
to support his Peerage."
Lord A. HAMILTON contended, that the merits of
Lood Wellington, though great, were not such as to,
deserve lime Peeiage or the pension conferred on him:
Ha deprecated bis. Majesty s Ministers for coming to
the pocket of the Public on every' occasion. lit act-
ing as they dud, Ministers rather consulted their own
reputation than the honour of Lord Wellington. He
lamented the batalc.of -Talav era as' a useless dis-
play of valour, and would therefore vote against the
gram:
Lord DvsAß'r thought the penSion richly merit-
ed, by the, series of brilliant services that marked
the career of Lord Wellington ; and he thought
it was alike due to the merits of that distinguished
Hero and the chat atter of the country that it should
be'granted.

Mr. WfirtBRSAD replied to. the remarks of
,the
preceding speakers at great length. When ,Gen-
‘riernen 'thought pfoper to speak Ot the map of 'Eu-
rope, .14i.c. as the record'of Lord Wellington's ex-
pions, 'he should beg leave to bring than hack to
that point at which the Chancellor of the Exchequer
thoUght to c:nicetnrate tie Gallant General's glory,
Talavt.ra. Lord Wellington rrrght have deserved
the Peerage granted by his Majesty, he might have
merited ire thanks gii en by that House, yet still the
gr:u-rt might be improper. He might not want it,
and if that were tns case, to grant -it would be an
ingtancaof scandalous profusion. When the Right
Hors. Gentlemen talked of the necessity of the Grant
to support the dignity of the Peerage, he would give
him leave to ask if he had not known the dignity of
the Peerage in. some measure impaired ? If it had
not been degraded by being bartered, and Whether,
or nor he had not offered a Peerage to a .Noble Lord
whom be Could not introduce to an ostensible
sneinion ?, Lord Wel,ington had been honoured with
a pe,:rage—‘t ht; 'a
double Peerage--arid Lord
Ndson,• ler 'the hattle of Abdukir, an action far
transcending that. of Talavera, had only been created
a Bin u. Was Lord Nelson's name unknown IX:fore
"the battle of the Nile ? Had he not fboght itt out
c3ose from ewerty to forty act ions previously? had be
net been Inn:dated iii the seri ice ? Yet notwithstand-
ing all, these circumstances, as simple Peerage bad
beets conferred on hind,'"and he did not know that
eve!: that was accompanied by a pension—[Here
Mr. W. was informed that a- pension was granted
with the Peerage to Lord Nelseinq-;-It was too much
to say to that. House, that because his Majesty had
. besi"owed a Peerage on Lord Wellington, they could
not but give him a pension. The Peerage was his
‘jesty's to bestow, but they, as servants of the
Plaolic, ought to take case of the public purse, and
not waive the money by giving a pension either,
where it was not deserved or was not wanted.. The
gra:rt of a pension would not add .to the honours
conterred•on Lord Wellington. The pensiongrant-'
ern to Lord St. Vincent was not granted as an fin-.
nyor; u was not rib atrer-ihe grant of Lord puri-
can'!. that such a grant -was made, because till•then
is was riot knoWn that that, Noble' Lord was noriu
atllue;:t. ciNUms'ances. Before they grianted a:pen-
kiOn, tie had a right to ask if it was wanted. Had

not Lord Wellington been Commander at Seringa-
patam ? Had he not been engaged in-the Mabratta
war,
,and, in such situations that' he might not be
in want of such a perision ? He perfectly agreed
:with the Honk Baronet,- that-the Public had debts
of great magnitude, and ought not to be called upon
16 pay the' debts, of individuals tvho had- itanit,vi-
dently wasted thetir wealth. He had•seen much to
commend in Lord Wellington in his,conduct in the
:campaign of t 808: He was an Officer-from whom
he thought much - might be reasonably expetted;;
but why, if pecuniary remuneration were necessary;
did' not Ministers give him one of the sinecures they
bad it in their power to give. When it was pro.:
posed to do away sinecures, on the demise of their
present posSessors, it was said they Were kept in
hand to reward -merit; and if one were not vacant
when axerson whose merits might entitle him to
one, appears to solicitassistance, it was said that the.
expettation of one shortly becoming vacant-would
be satisfactory to 'the party, and thus the public
would be saved the sum 'that would otherwise he
given. 'He thought they ought" to let Lord Wel- •
lington wait, at doing so, shew their practice ac--
corded With their theory. After some allusions to'
the battle of Talavera, he said he could not consider
him in any such light. He thought highly of Lord
Wellington ; he knew him to be beloved. by his
army, and he hoped he would continue to be so,—
,
Having thus stated the grOunds-an which he object-
ed-r 6 giVing a pension, he should spew by his vote,.
as he had done by his voice, that-he could not sub-
.
scribe to the grant.
Mr. WELLasksv POLE- assured the 'House that
it was not his Intention to have taken
,any part in
the debate, and it was with considerable pain that
he now rose to address it. There were, however,
some obiervations which had.:falleo fr6m-the Hon.
Gentleman' who had just sat' down; which called
upon him for a reply,--and- he should feel that he
was unworthy of the good opinion _of the-House,
if he did not now give such an explanation„ bow-
ever painful it might be to himself, as the nature
of the subject required. He wished, however, to
premise, that he had no objection to make, either
constitutionally or otherwise, to the speech of the
Hon. Gentleman who spoke last. He bad • taken
up the question fairly and hOnourably as a public
man ; he. had opposed tlee motion upon public
grounds ; and-had in many instances done justice.
to the &wader of Lord Wellington. It was true
that hehad given a military opinion upon apart of
Lord Wellington's eotidua, which was in some de-
gree unfavourable. The Hon. Gentleman had cer-
tainly aright to exercise his
.judgment upon that
point, and he (Mr. Pole) did not feel that it was
necessary to enter into a discussion with him upon
it. He was satisfied with the opinion which the
gallant General, (Crawfo:d) had• given respe6ling
Lord Wellington. He was willing to leave the
charaCter of his Nohle Relative to the opinions of
those Officers who had'served with him, and of the
army which he commanded and led to vietory. He
would leave it to the oPinioo expressed a few nights
ago by "a gallant General who fought by his side at
the battle of, Talavera. ' Let them decide upon the
question. Let them say what 'were the best and
most indisputable proofs of military merit. It
would nut beoomc. him to ent,r into the discussion
-of this subject, but it did appear to him, that when
the House had voted its Thanks to Lord Welling-
ton, it had in efiett given its sanction to the honour
which had been conferred upon him. He was
ready to admit, that the question of the Peerage was
a Very distill& one from that of the pension now
before the House, and he agreed that the Hon.
Gentleman opposite to hi.m was perfeetly,justified,
as a Member of Parliament, in desiring to know
whether Laid Wellington's circumstances were such
as rendered a pension necessary to enable` him to
support the dignity which bad been conferred upon
him. It would-undoubtedly be a scandalous waste
of public money to grant the pension, if the Noble
Lord were possessed' of such a fortune as to render
it unnecessary. He begged leave. to inform the
House, that Lord Wellington- had no idea that
be was to be elevated to the Peerage; and so
far was he from 'looking _to it, that he never
bad had any conversation with him (Mr. Pole)
upon the subject, or • had expressed a wash about
the title he should like to have, and when the
honour of the Peerage was about to be conferred
upon him, he- (Mr. Pole) being the nearest relative
in' London, had the task (in some point of view the
painful task)- of choosing the title by which he was
to be' ennobled. He mentioned this faa,- to shew
that Lord Wellington knew nothing of the dignity
which •bad been conferred "upon him, and it 'was for
the House of Commons -to consideatwhet her, under
such circumstances, they ought orfiitight not to
grant a Pension to support a title so conferred. He
would _now proceed to state, in the Noble Lord's ,
own words, the actual circumstances of Lord ,Wel-
lington: But" first, he begged to advert to some ob-
servations of the Hon. Gentleman who spoke last,
which were calculated to make an impression upon
the House which hebelieved the Hon. Gentleman
did not: intend. Time Hon, Gentleman had nisi-
nnated that Lord Wellington had enjoyed lucrative
corriminds' in India, tit here it was likely he had
made a tnr-tune, which fortune had since been dissi-
pated •by'extravagance. The Hon. Gentleman had
certainly not said this, but Iris speech was calculated
to produce an impresiton to that • effect. It' would
appear from the statement he was going to make,
weedier such observations applied to Lord Welling-
ton or not. He would now, ,with the permission
of the House, read a few lines from a letter which
he bad -received from Lord Wellington spun this
very .subject. [Mr. W. P. then read an extract to
the following effect]

" I was certain that I hqd this morning forgotten
something which I wished to say to you—it . was
about the state of my affairs. When I came from
India I bad about 42 or 43,0001. ; 50001. of that sum'
I Mide in prize-money at Seringapatam ; 25,0001.
in prize -modey, in the Mahratta war; 50001. I re-
ceived from the, Direaors, fur having aded as' a
Cot diissioner in the Mysore ; and 20001. from '
Government, as arrears due. The .remainder 'was
made by interest upon these sums. 1 believe I have
now about 40,0001. 20,0001. of which, with
her own fortUue, is settled upon. Lady Wellington."
Having, stated these circumstances, Mr. PoLi
said, be should now conclude. It was not his in.

•
tention tri have taken any part Lin the debate, but
he thought it right to rernain in Ins' place to give
any explanation that might ;be necessary., and then to
retire, norgiving any vote tinnt) the question.
Mr. WitacuFoncE thought that as Lord Wel—
lington had been thought,worthy their thanks, they
ought to the 'pension, that it night not. be said
they were prodigal of thanks, but parsimonious with
respect. to money. He then paid a high tribute of
applause to the genies and talents of Lord Welling-
ton: Had he gone into any other line of life, the
same talents, the same exertions would have placed
his family in more-affluent encurns'anceS.----Accord-
ing foal! 'accounts•-t hat he 'had seen, there was not a
more perfect soldier living than Lord Wellington.
He shared .the fatigue as well as the danger with his
men. kleWas atteritiveto their wants, and anxious.
to -increase their'comforts. His conduct was alto-
gether meritorious as an' Officer ;
,and he thought,
whatever tbeir opinion night be of the late cam-
paign, they ought not to. 'be niggards in requiting
Lord Wellington. -
Mt. H. SMITH thought improper eqmparisons had
been made. between NaVal and Military- Comman-
ders. He, regretted that no one in that HOnse
done justice to that -meritorious Officer; ,General R.
Macken'zle; who died in the battle of Talavera, and
expressed an intention of shortly • bringing the sub.-
ject beforeJhe House.
-Mr. WlNDliam spoke in fairoitr of the motion.
Mr. CANNING conceived that the question for
the decision of the House was not" whether honours
Iwere in many cases justly bestowed, but whether
the Noble LOrd who was the subject of the present
discu-sion had arrived at that degree of estimition
in which it became the House to acknowledge his
merits'With some substantial mark of national re-
ward. It was merely'to'do justice to the Noble
Lord that he. was anxious titat. House should
agree to the Vote; lie wished tblit they should deter-
mine upon the policy, which he maintained was to
be tumid in the Vote proposed. Itl'giving a per-
manent reward to the Noble Lord they would con-
vey to 'posterity the proper degree of estimation in
which they held the military charaeler of the coun-
try. If those Gentlemen who were disposed to otaL.
jest tO the grant could shew that the Peerage had
been improperlyleStowed;th n indeed a.saficient
argument was adduced to satisfy him. that the pen-.
'siva was improper: The Right Hon. Gentleman
entered into' a Comparative view of 'the services of
Lord Wellington with other,commanders,on wholn
honours and rewards ha I been bestuwekt, and cop-
tended' that it was State policy to Confer ,on ate,
Noble Lord .what was now asked, becauSe his ser-
vices had been ethinently useful to the country. He
would suppose that if the arms -of France,- after a
long series of
,defeats, shobld toiinorrow be t icto-
lions, would the House- be surprised if the attler'pf
that kingdom bestowed upon the -General, nor
Merely a ankedom but a Principality with all the
appendages. Would not the House say, that he
acted wisely in showering down honours and sub-
stantial rewards upon the person Who bad raised_
military character of France, 'and retrieved that prt,
of the honour of the country from that abeyance
tinder -which it had so \Jong- lain dorMani.
that to the case now before the -House, and
Gentlemen would sec' that at least-on the groittul' of
The Vole was called jio).—Fur mite sake of
example, as a stimilus' to future Commanders, as an
Useful lesson to the country, and as an incitement
to our ynnths training to arms to tread in the stepS
of . the Noble Lord, be Must support- the grant,
The House would do wisely to make him the living
monument, and not wait until his person was. gone,
and nothing but his tame sun ived, betore theythought of reward. 'lf it was necessary that . the
House of Peers should be filled,. better were it tillea

With such persons as the Nuble Lord apd others,
who have made themselves conspicnons in. ►he an..

nnls of glory. He wished the other Flonse not to

. . ... .
be a stag,nant lake .of colletted honours, but liable
to receive in addition new streams: According to
.. _

.all the beautiful theory of our -Const itut ion, he was

convinced . this Houie had the right, by its vote of

ihis night to enter into its share of the prerogative of
the Crown, by granting the Noble Lord a pension,
and.not allow him to go into the House of Peers
dependent, not only in , himself, for support from
the Crown to maintain his dignity, but also ron-

dering his posterity sukja to tho• same state of
dependence. _ _

Tile Committee divided on the motion—.

• Ayes -s - 233
Noes - • - - Ic6
Majority -
The House resumed, and the report was ordered
to be received on Monday.
The,Hduse adjourned at Half-past Twelve o'clock
till Monday.

During Mrs. JoupAN's ,late visit to York, being
one day admiring the beauties of the Minster, par-
ticularly a window representing all the Saints, a de-
feet obviously accidental, but still very r,dieulons,
struck her eye ; one. of the Ones of glass being
'waled, an old G,ntleman was placed on his head,
with his arms stretched out,. his heels in the air, as
if in the very act of throwing a Somerset;-an old
Lady who was standing by, and who really thought
it was meant to be so, very gravely said, " Pray,
ma'am, what Suint do you suppose that to be, and,
what may he be doing-?" To which Mrs. JOR DA N'
as gravely replied, " Why, ma'am, I take that to be
St. Vitus, ,pactisivg one of his favourite steps.",
The old Lady was very thankful tor the, infornia-
liony and t4ith the utmost Ibrmality repeated it
Acoun,to her daughter, to the -great amusement of
severalp-rsons who were near.

The following tale of woe should serve as .a caution
to parents not to permit their children to witness
scenes of cruelly- of any deScription
whatever—
On Monday lastMt: Hall, a miller at King's Bridge,
_
Devon, having employed. a butcher to kill .some pigs'
for hint, during the abSence of the latter too-get
some refreshment, having
,left his knife behind,
foUr.yoting children, who had been witnessing the
operation, agreed to play at kill-pig ; the yourigest
was to be'the pig, when one of the.bthers,who ailed
the part of the butcher, stuck him in throat; and
killed him on the spot.; the other thrt'c alartued at
what they had done, tan into the adjoining milk, and
hid themselves under the wheel, which -was not
orking at the time, but was set going almott,
ttiediately afterwards, and crushed them all to death !