The Sun.
London, England, 1844-03-08 00:00:00

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'TIP, they caght to take the present opportunity of put-
v:of,t end to the sugar monopoly.—(Hear, hear.) When
'Oe i.,(lsugar monopoly, he was nut using it in a sense,
_" a. strict one. This sugar monopoly was a real one—it
th: a principle which closed the ports of this country ag mist
thot c°rniog in of any sugar at all. He believed
It n, Member in that House, who was an advocate
yheluoteetion, would defend such an act of injustice.
shiell,te Government thought that after the great experiment
gehet .nad been so lately tried in the manumission of the ne-
eie..4l the West Indies, breathing time should be given to the 1
tes'„l" t° recover from the shock ; but the late Government
Sete
of the prolonged existence of the present '
of of things. He would read for the House the declaration
el,,°ne of the leading members of that Government—he
lata'aed. o the opinions of his late lamented friend Lord Syden-
ie,„ That Noble Lord said that it was a matter of great
eerwrtatice that a proper state of relations should be established
tits wee this Country and Brazil, and he trusted that the atten-
The (4 Parliament would be called to it in a very short time.
tett preseiit treaty (the treaty thee existing) was only of a
tootra,tY character. The exports of that colony were chiefly
these to coffee and sugar ; and it was most desirable that
try 'Ports shoul find an advantageous market in this coun-
t
of he, he Subject d would be speedily forced
.upon the attentiotne
Cc Government. These were the opinions of the la:
illosient, and they were most anxious that the sugar duties
dee,Abe Put upon a proper footing. Ile asked the House to
with tatt they would not allow the Brazilian treaty to expire
e4tt ast taking some step to bring their produce into this
wiq on more advantageous terms than hey had formerly done.
theft ,Fie
to the other branches of this important. subject,
tee
,Fte duties, he should advert to them very briefly and
tiershier,terally. If the Government adopted the perniciousth
Oppt,rttztiteOrt:ftintting those duties, they. should have another
faces to b discussing them. But still he felt their
eistise eso great, that he must call the attention of the
Ili; if- to the state of the trade at the present moment. When
leis:U. Friend the Member for Portsmouth moved his reso-
-14-„In 1841, it was resisted by the gentlemen opposite on
ilse°';°n,ilds, first, that it would encourage slavery and the
te',„4-ante; and, next, that an adequate supply of sugar might
listlTedfrom their own colonies.. The amendment to his
teotree blend's motion was placed in very good hands—it was
. WI the Noble Lord (Sandon) the Member for Liver-
get6 at Noble Lord not only made his statement in reply,
came down to the House provided with an estimate of
the quantity of sugar that might be expected from
'l•4l'Sees')l°r'ieei The estimate, coming from such a
he ~ excited great attention at the time.—(Hear.)
ispw"oble Lord said he expected that the great sources of
Jodie in future years would be the Mauritius and the East
ties Fee,' lie estimated that they would obtain from the Mauri-
Nber,--us°oo cwt. Now, in the year 1842, they received
77,00,"" ewt. ; in the year 1843, the supply fell to
-veewt, little more than half the amount estimated.—
setihe oare't
beeeeanr.) The deficiency, with respect to the East Indies
bl
n quite so great ; but still it was very considerable.
°tlt", e Lord estimated the supply at 1,4 , cwt.. Idn
y Litt)" received 940,000 cwt. Last year, they receive
17est le°,9-100 cwt. With regard to the supply from the
'ere 1"'-ues, through the Noble Lord had made .an error
retsia
re
it was an error of a different kind. He
s,4tl le-
them only 2,300,000 cwt., whereas they
teceived, in each year, about 2,500,000 cwt.
111°.eartepas a deficiency in the supply last year under what hod
"er fer°raised by the statement of the N'Oble Lord, the yem-
oet r Liverpool (Lord Sandon), of no less than 41 i ,000
147,;(eheers. ) The House would recollect that the population.
ess;,eereksed during these years. Was it possible after this
ttLehrl tlat the people of this country were not suffering from a
ilerecCelesuPPly of sugar, and that the expectations held cut to
„'iitue„.' le Hon. Gentlemen opposite, when they induced the
"tteri not to accede to the Whig proposition of 1841, proved
WWest Y fallacious? He might be told that the prices of sugar
tletZt excessive during that time, but it must be recollected
dtred t Was merely relati( Hear, hear.) He was sure he
not
ebts p say that, in referring to the statement of. his
n r'etl, that he wished to hint that his Noble Friend
Ws; 4j intention of deluding the House on this subject. He
itatgeefeetly sure that his Noble Friend conceived that his
i~lt„rrq was accurate, and he had no doubt that he had con-
t'eseeePiersons of the highest authority on the subject in
sid lite- 7," He had no doubt, also, that those gentlemen had
"10 the statement was accu raet. Their expectations
jisse„en disappointed. Then they had no
e nd inducement
tbdies lu oney in the cultivation of sugar in the
.West
the Mauritius, for whenever the question of
L'iNioskoglit' duties came before the House the Right Hon. Gen-
', se-et," First Lord of the Treasury held out no language
seethe
Alrage; them in its cultivation ; althuugh he
impress h
leo hoot
alter the sugar duties this year, he left the litett beathe would be likely to do so next year, or at some very
Vips—er;°(l,• Hear; hear, and laughter.) Parties could not
,t eet to invest money in the cultivation of sugar in the
!sesa\ :fidies under these circumstances. He (Mr. Labou-
k, et, •leenad been talking to a West India merchant on the sub-
etk lit "0 told him that he had given directions to his agent
t4utious he carred his operations in
the"itivat'
11. ionto of sug whatar.amount He believedi the on
Governpment, and
Gentlemen opposite who supported the Government,
l'''tjettlet better in plainly speaking their sentiments on the
17/ e-„---h( Cheers. stated- they m.eant to uphold the sugar duties,
Let th 'silt to have that it was their intention to do so.
—ight Gentleman give a stout. sugar pledge, as
britlke! tot corn pledge, which would give confidence to
Ite°l-8, in the Mauritius and West Indies. After the ex-
-4:,ishtltt-hwnich the Government now had, and after the hopes
id°Y held out to the House and
.to
.the country,
,ths not understand how they could reconcile it, and go on
o,lliclilekrne miserable course which they had hitherto pursued,
co -tagntum° in'urios both to the West Indian planters and
ijn thius country. There was another subject to
Lttte h e would call the attention of the House. He would
R'Nelisthe consumption had diminished in this country
~°llse Years 1841 and 1843. He would now state to the
itkee that consumption was. In 1841 this country con-
f 'l°o, ,000 cwt, In the year 1843, which was the last
ei'esta4r "old) they had any return, the consumption was, not-
elllmg the increase of population, only 4,082,000 cwt.,
s-ttae.'salan actual reduction in the quantity of sugar. Dhid
::ttaleekst)7l that there was a stinted supply of sugar for t
de
Ito l'tt°l3 of the couutry ? Ile would ask the House. to a -
,-,titemr'hat was the fact with regard to two other articles of
1-,,gedeetti°u during the same years, 1841 and 1.8.43. He
sPli ,i`u the articles of tea and coffee. The quantity of tea
e'",leeeeto the country in 1841 was 36,600,000 lbs. ; in 1843
t742tetlluu2 lbs. The -amount of coffee supplied to the country
tor "as 28,400,000 lbs., and in 1843 30,000,000 lbs. He,
;,45turoeet)i_Would say that while there was no increase in the
t:tutl "of sugar—nay, a small failure—the consumptionoosf
Iletts e,°'tee had increased in the ratio stated.. The only pr
.-
tiltit'anich of the sugar trade was that which consisted in
t'anr s'ave-grown sugar into this country, for the purpose
04.4 it, then of exporting it.—(Laughter and cheers.)
at-lheer`svelubrought from their own
.West Indian Colonies.—
fjOitedi This branch of trade had increased to an enormous.
it '4139e, within these two years. In 1842 they imported
lb, Ili le,‘lts• of slave-grown sugar, for the purpose of
million
01,f-'l3 they imported 939,000 cwts., nearly. a of
hlr q'tje-grown sugar, tor the pnrpose of refining.
DSTONE—Where is that return to befound ?
111'„'Y le.-PsOUCH ERE—In the trade and navigation returns,
nu the table of that House. He did not mean to say
4,llteli'atre."exPorted all the sugar, but they imported it, and
iiteNtio„ 'mportation which gave all the encouragement to the
single of slave-grown sugar.—(Hear, hear.) Thus, in
Year, the amount of rough sugar in
ttl,-10 —teased from 600,000 to more than 900,000 lbs.
le Iv
etrue to what he apprehended would be the only real
sdk't heetl'q true
a tee, between both sides of the House. He did
thelatage that Gentlemen opposite would deny the immense
f
tit„totiotrluf admitting foreign sugar into the consumption o
:-4froth-Y: They would not deny the great benefit to be de-
-111%1°4 ,eed,by the shipping and trading interests. He be-
-4 the more than any other question, except the re-_
.tliteeeow„ e°ruslaws, add to the comforts of the great mass of
klk;the'e Hear hear.) But the objection would be,
sies'elty r got ocitt,ght not 'to do anything which. would encourage
tithe Brazils and other alave-growing. countries. . Ile
tssi',oe ;sPosed to treat with disregard the feelings entertained
Ita"Y tae-(4 of this country on the subject of slavery, but
ititZisettilhl°te one looked into the case, the. more one was
stet ass Ob." rtuY person could be found taking his . stand_ on
stet asses.rilection as that.—( Hear, hear.) The Right Hon.
toer'al e. told them that he was unwilling to renew th.e eorni
slCsklie eeeltY with the Brazils, unless they could be indueeof
hi,'erY thin changes with regard to the internal stateo
kotO ."6 Brazil 3. He apprehended that after the treaties
tOtIR rieire lately made for the suppression of the slave-trade,
tet,,e remained to be done in that way. He, therefore,
lititt,rtnetee„'tight Hon. Gentleman must have meant that the
tie et° sta-"` would recommend to Parliament and the. country
'lllot
ew their commercial relations with the Brazils unless
10'4 ie" British goads was reduced, so that both countries
14°.°Iia I/Ileed on the same footing. Ho asked the House
kOs-;LeSoe, in, this, perhaps the last opportunity they would
tnis great blow was struck at the commerce and
tie ks uf the country, whether they could—he would not
lie'lleneele and prudent Men, but as consistent and conseien-
4jel‘*ishedssikeeP the ground they now occupied..—(Cheers.)
ItiT toe ies° see the people of England in a position to hold a
helns tat.`"J•eards foreign nations ; but he was afraid foreign
kls;° beig:•:r turn round and say to them " it is impossible for
it a"ere in your professions—this argument about
veeteernere pretext—( Hear, hear)—and when you have
) to gain, you have no seruples.—( Hear, hear, and
;et) L''s os le easy and convenient enough to make us the
lies °ft oetie scruples when it suits your own interests, and
ttiorest ands question of humanity, when it is a question of
the tl? Ni, proteetion."—( Cheers.) How did the question
,!Iltert:` sugar the only article with regard to which
of ti the 11-01.11,d those scruples ?—(Cries of " Hear, hear.")
~.`kriff re Isbo iMport coffee to any extent through the produce
"t 4 4614-ill'? Nay more ;in the alteration they made in the
ktottee ef es were
labours;en for the introduction of coffee, the
Whets tt, that and with regard to the bringing slaves
sti'atoliloe; ethAtlantic into the Brazils, it made little difference
ted it_ty cultivated coffee or sugar. The question then
N'oereoi'llelf into this—that the cultivation of sugar was hard
Ittit„Ntit top.°ll the slaves, and they ought not to give encou-
-144 "Ige introductiotn into this country. That was the
1,4
,neth Mr. Ellis held to the Brazilian Government,
f• lilbeiro, when heto this country. How was it
ta4 Rkv:r entleeser, opposite
.to
came
' hold 'such language, when
41.'3110,84°h facilit.
11-11,,, -.es? les!, .by their tariff, to. the introduction of
tit t e. bud '`ovi mining was an operation far more cruel to
s more disgustincs, than the cultivation of sugar.
Olt 1Y in spit ncithing about old, which, he knew, would find
tf
edict
velf`e,?!. all impediments'. But there was copper ore.
it"PPer ore was exactly the same as that
to to boa, was imported into this country to
whicposhhlo"e
/, d nsutned in this country was admitted at a
rt . 1, h uty, end
otd leeks efore the what was the effect?
.Here it was.
, _ ted fee
~tariff was introduced, the quantity of copper
din 00 ews'ir the Consumption of the country amounted to
ZriCedl.4rlit.eco- 'oultintlB4. 2, after the tariff, it rose to 300,0141b5.,
Qhe ore the anted to 1,085,0001b5. 'I he amount of revenue
that Lts aud uut)'—they were not ashamed to take money
th'keros, aughter)—was in 1841, only 56/. ;in 1842, it
(Peet tillig4t 4H1843 it was 64,0001. He did not mean to say
't °eau. °n• Gentleman. stimulated the trade to this
ttp, at th ~ot4,etddinethee,
ta\s‘.l,lact
heesarne time they were smelting copper
meant to show was, that they had de-
Iva
set° snot: °' ~,°°Pner from that course they adopted with
ItallseaJare to 7 I 3 Peer
this subject must not be considered
hortolt.thet titiele Brazils alone. There was good reason to
Po%) 1 sse„ie ~SPanish West India Islands of Cuba and
trot Lef:e ha-441°,171,0w. the example of the Brazils.—(Hear,
heksta-te the nouseotscharged his duty in bringing this sub-
vttllt) to be ,iso,;,
,He thought it was one
.ot too much
qe'are of Wee a
„. E..oeet off till the end of the session.—( Hear,
4t1,,_ the ~.._`tueittort of the greatest importance to the
,7,teeteer'"eel, es`putroeiroceiree of the country, and it behoved Hon.
sa.,tinseett intereresip who
.represented manufacturing and
torn°f the '° adopt thes' to
join with him in urging the Go-
MI, ens io°°llntsy diet Only course which the safety and wel-
-144 teDresile. but also ated•—( Cheers. ) But he appealed not
fry rest rated
agrie toi the conscientious convictions of those
teittentl:'t anY othersu tural constituencies, who had as much
areol:tt iteVeard the_ on the subject-4 Hear, hear.) He
opto not
Gistsre wee",, say that the agricultural arid manufac-
t ",eo or waned tOgether ; and he trusted they
eyt he
_orilade tend•sovernment in inflicting this deadly blow
ifeuedtllataihanufactures of the country.—( Hear.)
airs e had some fears on the subject. They
ettleTtr(t the
Was
gi,e4hera.a,le
sittn had Hon. Baronet opposite say, " What
supporting the West Indian Colonists
Vi3.itllo Oll4l en'e of the country ?" He (Mr. Labou-
k4that
there
liberall)"‘ c°4l''
clatf
arwiet as amongst the supporters of the
erfei aaereial l.great jealous y with respect
steeeti • . Po icy. 1 hey had heard lately
With respect to any attempt to