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London, England, 1817-05-24 00:00:00

SAVING BANKS,

Ur. 110811 moved that the Saving Banks' Bill be
read 0.3 d time, On which a lung conversation arose,
chiefly on the clause to allow penions to a viiithem-
selves of parochial aid, should they require it, al-
though they might have at the time money in the
Banks fur Savings nut exceeding the amount of
301. eseb, a power, however, being vested in the
Magistrates to withhold the parish relief, should
the circumstances of the case justify such a pro-
ceeding.
Mr. LIAMMIIIISLAY particularly objected to this
portion of the Bill, as it was so complete a devia-
tion from the principle of the Poor Laws. It was
• a much greater and a more objectionable deviation
from that principle than had ever yet been at.-
tempted. With this exception, he had no objec-
tion to the Bill ; if it were without such provi-
sion, he should deers) it calculated to accomplish
the desirable object of promoting a more thrifty
feeling amongst the poor.
Mr. Rosa had held a consultation with many
country Gentlemen on this part of the Bill, and
they all agreed its the necessity of retaining the
regulation.
Lord Mtt'rort said, agricultural labourers, with-
out such regulation being made a law, had traits-
ferred their Savings to these Banks.
Sir C. MoNcx strongly opposed the clause,
he could not see any necessity for all the over-
zeal evinced in this portion of the Bill in particu-
lar; it Was indeed undertaking to manage that
which, if left alone, woul►t manage itself. The
operation of the Bill would work a great injustice
in Scotland.

General TIMRNTON trusted,- as there was so
notch opposition to the Bill, that the Right Hon.
Gentleman would withdraw it ; and that, if a Bill
•were.still deemed necessary, one less--objection--
able might be brought forward next Session. In
the country there was much dislike of the Bill in
its•present shape. He had 'received a very sensi-
ble letter on this subject from a Manager of the
Norwich Bank for Savings ; the writer concluded
with saying, having observed on their being fin
necessity for the Bill, " l believe it is not usual
for Parliatnent to interfere unasked---at least
such is the opinion of wiser heads than mine !"
(A laugh.)
Mr. Paornanos was friendly to the Bill in its
present form, deeming the measure calculated to
• promote independence of spirit amongst the poor.
Mr. F. Lawns concurred in.the objection to the
principle of the clause which had been complained
of, for it recognized, for the first time, that those
who might possess property (in the Saving Banks)
Should, nevertheless, be eutitled to parochial re-
lief'. The time would come, fie bad no doubt,
-when the Poor Laws must he put an end to, and
lie was therefore anxious thikt some inducement
*lmulti be held out to the laborious to take care
of what they could save out of their earnings.
The Bill having been read a third time,
Mr. WESTERN moved the omission of the clause
tllowi►tg persons to he benefited by the poor rates,
not Ail hstatuling they might have money itt the
Saving Banks. -
Nr. PHILLIPS supported this opposition, de-
claring that the clause, for the first time, pr 4-1

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Mr. CtiuwEW said the clanse'eould do no -
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Mr. CottIITItSAY having :so opposed the r,,,,.
Mr. Itoss maintained, ilia if the clause a
jeered, it would prevent many from pleb) „ .i,..
savings in these flanks, and the general ~., 1
the Bill was to produce a habit of solo; 4 : 11
the poor.
Mr. J. SMYTH supported the clause.
After observations from Mr. W116(14101,-
Cadcraft, Colonel Wood; and
Sir C. goat. Al
House divided--
For the Clause ........ . .. . ............
Against it ........................ 0
Majority for ibe Clause .... .. ... , ' ,
The Bill was afterwards passed and sial Iti
Lords. ' k
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