The Sun.
London, England, 1817-08-09 00:00:00

TROTTING lIATctI.

The fastest match on record since the performances of the
Phettomewr mare (which was to have trotted 19 lodes
within the hour), took place near Blothwater, on Wednesday,
for 100 guineas. A fine roan mare seve: years old, the pro-
peaty of a Mr. Sandy, was matched to trot Si miles in 30li-
nutes.—Each mile was done as follows
blip. Sec.
1
2
3
4
5
• 6
•
3 - 31
8

' V 8

. •
The mare -waves pulled up after gain; eight ►wiles, as she had
but onenainute anti 4:isccontls to tin the hillf mile, and she
WilS brat before she had finished time eth

•
On. Mondnv lAst kbont 100 frietitls of Mr. En-
tvIoNDDBE-town (lined together at fling-
Uatn. Not <ne of the.. mmy ctr.ft b,a:iAß of this
Gertifetlian's ,tucteis has exceeded that we now
record, in spirit, harmony, and convi via I try .
The society about Hinizhant is particulally go,,d ;
and this :occasion was tlis: inguished by thq pre-
sence, of the numerous Gentlemen 11-ho ate the
personal acquaintance of the house of Kinlbedey
and the supporters of the same political ri;11-
ciplcs.—(Norwielt Nercurv. .forii S

ROMAN CATROLICS.

[From The (Dubin?) Corwpcmdent, Aug. 4.]

.Sevcral of the Prelates of the Church of Rome,
try, have replier! to the. invocation of
'h Catholic Board, respecting the pr'esent pos-
tore w tur:r affairs Of those who have rt
each .eenis to have acted intliidually—and every
do:import bears upon it the stamp -of its author's
prevailing opinions, or his characteristic temper;
lito, from the whole of wLtdt has been published,
several coticht,ions may be, Wi7hout any difficuity,
made, touching the prevailing sense of the
Body at large. It is to he inferred that the
31oman Catholic Bishops have discarqed the
ooh:ion which some of them avowed, and others
arquiesced hi, a fee, years ago ;.and that, contrary
to, that oni:,ion, they now resolve to maintain,
that the Crown shall not have any species of au-
thority whatever hi. t he recommendation or in the
appointifient of their :Bishops—even on the con-
of the whole of the Roman Catholic po-
inaa'ion being .possessed with-the most complete
poll; i(!,d-atid civil eFglhili..y. It is to he 'collected,
trem. what has bren said upOn this subject , that
the -Sovereign Pontiff is of opinion, that the Crown
of Great 'Britain may he . duly invested with
aotholity in the appoi.oment of Bishops:belong.•
ing tri the Church of Rome, in, the United -Kiiig-
rtons..; tncl, if this be the ooinion of his /101ines,
as is w,tc, for a time, that. of several of the Ro-
man' Catholic Biitiops in Ireland, until they were
railecLoto of it by an active and ambitious part of
the Laity of their communion, it seems to be clear
and plain to 'common sense, that such authority,
exercisalde by the British Crown in the instance
iu COPtCillilla!ilin, CallOot be in opposition. to any
cation. or in violation of any essential or import.
ant i,:\•, insisted_ upon by the Clinrcb of Rome.
jt sireh ration, or such a law, or any ride to
such effect, were
.110‘v existing and valid, it is
_ not to 14e vresumed that the Pope., am! the Mem-
bers of his Conclave. could be ignorant of it=it is
• liple to he presumed they world act against it ;
it „therefore, to be eoncluded,that no sueirobstacle
• iSis„ to investing the Crown with the influence
alluded to. An Objection is made, by a part of
the Roman, Catnolie,Laity, to cont.ilng t his power-
tri.the Crown ; and this objection is espoused' by
_some of the Roman Catholic Bishops, ra!lier tem-
pera!ely, and, by others, rather over ardently—as
if the • v•ai were (min.!, to complexional warmth,
nr to an habitual distrust of British liberality,
n‘tich wore than to any positive. conviction, that
the con Hence claimed for our Government, in the

appoint went to the Roman Catholic-Hierarchy, is
repugnant to any laW,of the Church of. Rime.
In tact, it is quite char, _that the question in
dispute—and ill dispute only ainong• the Roman
C,tholics—does not arise out of any declaration
o• injunction asset Ted or maintained by the Chtirch
of Rome ; awl it is obvious, that it rests upon a •
presnined apprehension .only, that, if the Crown
,possessed the anthority alluded to, it wo4l abuse
it. One part of the Roman Catholic Liity, and
the utot important part, are warn) in their desire
to place a certain influence in the appointment of
their Bishops in the hands of the Crown. The
reproaches showtered upon them, by those who
are of a contrary opinion upon the. subject,
attest 'this fact very plainly. The Pontiff' hint
self' concurs with the favourers of the. prin.:.
tittle of investiog the Crown with this trust—so
the reproaches against him and his advisers aNsO
attest follotcs, then, that the ohjectionmade
by' ethers of the Laity,- and by the generality of
the Roman Catholic Clergy in Ireland, to plac!ng
this contested trust in the hands of the Crown,
eleserves none of that respect which is due to a
religious principle or opinion, even when adopted
in mistake. The objection is examinable upon •
otvn validity, as it interferes with a proposed
nvas••re" of general policy—or, rather, a m:a7,
sure in contemplation to he proposed. Now,
if the Roman Catholics labour under all those-
civil privations that have. been so earnestly and
so eloquently deplored and reprobated, and if no-
thing stand in the way of their removal, but the
non-compliance of the parties themselves, so com-
plaining, with si proposal, against which no canon,
rule, or regulation of their Church,- can be
found—and in favour of which, the head of their
Church—the most eminent functionaries of their
Church—and a large portion of their -Laity, are
es—who is to blame- that
said to avow, themselves--who
those civil restraints .continue ? It remains to be •
provA•,4,, whether the cession into the hands of the-
Cmwo, of the Mltlionity in controversy, would be.
followed by the investing of the Rofnan Catho-
lics with a'ttdi share in the Administration.of the
Constitution. But the subject here is taken up
extrinsic of that question—and reasoned upon,,
according to the supposition, that nothing Stands
opposed to the admission of the Cat balks to poll- •
tical power,_ but the graritin,g to the Crown a colt--
trout ricer the appointment of their Prelacy. LOOk-
iig at the question- in this way, the only conclu-
sion which common sense would be justified in
making .is this—that those who object to lodging
this cor.fidenee with regarding the•ap=
pointmeot of the Bishops, are, in tact,t be only ene-
mips to endowing the Roman Catholics with the
roost enlarged civil power, and that so long as they
ere able to persuade others to help them in making a
3( ind against reposing
.any trust, in the honour
nod morality of the Crown, so long the Catholics
must remain as they are—praising and applauding
the obstinacy which eiectudes- them from a full
Participation in political. influence and power, and
ailing at the liberality which is really to give up
<ill tor a shadow—a formality, not prohibited by
;ow one rule of doctrine, -or any injunction of
spirit n a! a nth or:• y . It is desired to be understood,
that it is not intended, in this place, to insinuate,
tiat the question stands in this naked and simple
state ; it is so represented---7and the inferences
'.ere drawn are deduced from a proposition as-
sumed to,be true, not demonstrated to _be true.
According to the Report of ,the Compittee of
the House of . Commons, relative to tlie practice
of Sovereigns of foreign • States, in cases of the
;Inn nrtne.nts.of BishOps belonging to the Church
of Rome; it appears confirmed, that all Sovereigns,
Catholic', and. Protestant, exercise a paramount
anthofty in the appointment of Roman Catholic,
P•7shops. It. lini not been argued that this attillo-
.l•(y tic'dn abused—that Protestant prejudices

li-ui cntleavonred in abose tire poe er of toiscopal
appointmeuts, to the degradation or lain' y !of
the Church of 'Biome—and why should a presump-
tion to such an effect be made against-the British-
Sovereign 1 It was England, whose Sovereigns
gave the first great eximple of-Toleration, when the
bones of a Protestant were denied sepulture in con-
Secrated 'ground, in every ltomait Catholic State
'in Europe ;—why should her Sovereigns be less
worthy of confidence, or act less jostly, than those
of Pritssia ?—The demand fur political power—the
demand to have statto\t and ant horitynever can
be maint.ained upon any metaphysical right. The
law of convention settles evety thing. If that
law pinch or press upon any portion of the corn-
uhtnitv; it would appear strange if those %rho
complain should refuse all terms to obtain their
own relief-=-if they- should . say, ill substance,
and aver it vehemently and ill-loonourettly—
" We will put no coofi:lence in you--we willmot
entrust you with•even a negative influence in our
conceros—but ,you must ells lust- ns, without re-
straint or qualification, in all we ask..
_Repose in.
us unbounded confidence, because we think we
deserve it.• • You think the save of yourselves,
lose :we,will not t rose voit-;—thouh you are re-
nowned all over the universe for the bottom- and
fidelity with which you •observe treaties ; though
the times are enlightened, and civiliea:ion stands
ready.to record the compacts between nations and
sects---yet, we are determioed,not .to trust yon :
to appoint an mail person to administer a duty,
which it is important to you, as. well as to us,
.should he fitly adunoistered, we suspect you will
be willieg to stand, damned -toil coutfoull,ivd, to
the fact of the ,orld." It is very easy to see to.
what a -proposal
.of this sort, involving so pre-
posterous a compact, must lead;
There is a bold and Vigorous spirit in.the senti-
ments made •nse of by sonic of the Ruman.Ciatho-
ilic Bishops—and a spirit which, if exercised upon
a proper occasion (we beg pardon for the ex-
pression), would confer upon its possessors no
small honour ; but where tt has no other stimu-
lant for so warm a display, but to pive force to
distrust, and that distrust directed against a na-
tive Sovereign, ins purity, and his honour,. and
impliedly against his religion, it loses all its lustre,
and degenerates into the appearance of a prejudice.
We always lament to sue terms of reproach implied
in matters wherein religion is, in any Way, even
indirectly, involved. It is too true that, in the war
of sects, the slaughters caused by the abuse of
Ireal religion have been suspended upon truces
and compacts, which have heen but too often vio-
lated—bat, with all respect for the opinions of
others, we are 'quite sure that the Protestant's
are chargeable 'with a very small share, indeed, of,
the infractions of their engagements. .
, In France, they fought nine civil wars—and the
history of the Ediet.of Nantes is ready to aver that
they were not faithless. But it is not because those
unhappy conflicts of old and bad times had plittig;-
• ed the wise and good, in other respects, into the
forfeiture of every thing sacred and• honourable,
that we should visit, upon the existing genera-
tions, the scandal and distrust of those who have
lived so long before them--anti, although no coin-
padt was kept, Whir the Protestants of . France—
although, so late as the reign of -Louts NA'. the
declaration of it is predecessor against them was
renewed and eitforeel, yet, there is not A Protes-
tant of the present: age, who would charge this
coorrnity tgiiiitst i.ittinaiiity, and this crone agaiust,
, religion, upon the present King off rraoce, or
r ..
upon.any member. of the Catholic religion. Let
us knit have an equal liberality, and we shall have.
eqoal Cinifidence 'at least, and as much repose ;•
and, instead of .going hack to the treaty of Li-
me; ick ;—ins:cad' of taking the Whig patrons of
VTILLIAN: 11 t a, a.:t 'exaCt model for a Cabinet of
the present day—instead of going from years of
successive concession and grace, back to times of
exasperation, violence, wrong, and persecution, let
us quietly open our eyes to the times in which we
11re—improve those to the best ativxntage—adhere
to our principles, without throwing away our
reason and sense of prOpritey, or denying our jus-
tice and conliieuce, where, both are merited—and
we shall soon resent, a more pleasing spectacle
to the world, and one more honourable to our-
selves, thau we have yet been able to boast, as a
nation.

LAW INTELLIGENCE.

COURT OF CHANCERY, AUG. 8.

THE DUKE a QUEENSBERRY'S ESTATZ..

THOMAS V. MONTGOMERY.

Sir A. PMGOTT; in this case, stated, that A
motion was at present on the paper of his Honour
the Vice-Chancellor, an►t might probably be heard
to-day or to-morrow before his Honour. From
the knowledge which his Lordship had of the
general merits of this, especially from the pro-
ceedings which bad taken place in, this., and' a
-higher:Court, it eras the wish of the partici 'that,
the case should be heard before his Lordship, rind
therefore he humbly moved I►is Lordship' would
permit the motion to be transferred to his paper,
and hear it on Tuesday morning, if he should see
cause to do so.

The LOUD CHANCELLOR.—Let it be fixed for
heating in this Court on Tuesday morning,

SIR MARK troop V. E. GRMITHS, Esq.

The LORD CHANCELLoR observing Mr. GO&
fi!hs in Court, stated his %visit. to be put in posses-
sion of the deed which had been executed between
him and the plaintiff, Sir Mark Wood, and bavii,g
read it, he should then be ready to give judgment.
Mr. GRUFITITS said, he had a prepared copy,
which, if his Lordship chose, he should be fur-
Dished with iininediately.
'The LORD CH ANcau,on would be glad to have
it, not besause in itself it bore very much on the
cause, but because allusions having been made to
it in the pleadings, he thought he was called in
Justice to look over it.

REGULATION RESPECTING THE PRODUCTION OF

IiEEDs IN coutur.

In a cause of rather a cprripltcated nature, but
which %vas of no general interest, Ills Lordship
expressed hig aStookiythent that in a case wheie
$0 many (Iced, might to have been produced, he
had.bet 0 merciv tuttliStted %vial abstracts, tthd
had also to congthin of the little attention which
was !at ter'ly.paid to the pioductiou of such (loco-

meats. was olif enough to recollect so long
ago as the dine 0, Lord iiathurst, that then every
deed referred to in the pleadings was read in
Court, but that now was utterly impossible, in
consequence of the multiplicity of business.b±fore
the Court. Still, however, if these deeds were
not now by modern practice react in Court, it was
necessary they should he :cad by some- person, and
accordingly, for the purpose of accommodating
Gentlemen at the Bar, he had always been iu the
habit of taking every one of thew home with him,
and of reading every word of every one of them.
God knows, he had often been blamed, and most
harshly blamed, for the delays of judgment, but
he protested' to, God, and in the most solemn
manner, that Ike had decided many cases which he
had never understood, and could not have tinder-
stood, till after the most painful and laborious
researches of his own. If Solicitors did not pro•
duee-doonments, he could not and would not de-
cide their cases, and lie hereby laid it down as a
pk-remptory order of Court, from which he should
not permit, on any pretext, or under any circum-
stances, the slightest deviation in future ; that no
cause should he allowed a hearing, unless every
document in it was produced at full length.—
Meantime he tliSmissed the case, and would not
hear one• word More 'till he Was furnished with
full deeds':

OPERA HOUSE.

WATERS V. TAYLOR.

Mr. !TART it) this case_ moved, on behalf of Mr.
Waters, for leave to pay into Court, on or before
the first-day of November, die sum of 28,9731.,
and on the paymeot of which, to have an assign-
ment of the -property made to him. He did not
expect that any opposition would be mole to the
present motion, as it was for the interest of both
parties that the motion should be granted. By
the Master's Report it appeared that a sum of
34.0001. was due to Mr. Waters, and if he did not
ut,mke his claim to that sum, he would not desire
the motion to be granted. Mr. Taylor himself
admitted that a considerable sum was (Inc to Mr.
Waters ; Mr. Taylor also said, that all the cre-
dit Ors on the property had come in, having been
called .on by the advertisement ordered in the
Gazette of June, 1814. Air. Waters, in the pre-
sent case, asked on the payment of 26,9731., to
have the property assigned to him, and this sum,
with those already paid, the Learned Gentleman
contended, was sufficient to secure to Mr. Taylor
and all the.cieditors, the debts due to them. Af-
ter arguing at considerable length in favour of
granithg. the motion,
.the Learned Gentleman
concluded_ by submitting to his Lordship that the
granting Of time present motion would be for the
'interest, of all the parties.
"Sir SAM. ROMILLY trusted his Lordship would
not grant tire present motion, nor order an as-
signment to be made to Mr. Waters,.uutil he had
phi into Court the whole of his purchase mo-
ney; 'Mr. Waters, as 'the case now stood, was in
the acteal possession and enjoyment of the pro-
perty, without paying the.purehase money into
Court. ' After arguing at 'considerable length, in
the course of which the Learned Gentleman ani-
madverted on the observations of Mr. Hart respect-
ing Mr. Taylor, he concluded by trusting his
Lordship would order the whole of the money to
be paid into Cour!.
The LoRD CHANCELLOR observed, that the
former bearings of this case had been a, source of
extreme regret and anxiety to his Lordship's mind,
as he did not properly understand the merits of
the case ; but he was happy that it had at length
been brought to the point on which the principle
of vendor and vendee would decide it. When his.
Lordship had opened the biddings, he had done
so with a great deal of anxiety, as his Lordship
'considered it to be nothing less than actual ruin
to the. parties. " This," said his Lordship,
proves how little I know of
.Opera House affairs ;
I must say that when the biddings were opened
the second time, I 'did nest expeet as much to be
hid as had been previOusly doue, but in. this I was
daeived, for instead of 40,0001. a sum of 70,1951.
was bid by a congreis of Gentlemen, who felt
more the, value of it that I did. We have now
got to a stage of the business in WhiCh'littletliffi-
citify exists. if Mr. Waters' had admitted being
in possession, -I should certainty have 'Ordered the
ivhole of the purchase money into Court." In
conclusion, his Lordship-directed the papers anti
affidavits to be Itanded postponed the
further discussion 'of the case till to-marrow (this
day).