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London, England, 1844-08-21 00:00:00

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SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS

FROM THE EVENING PAPERS OF THIS DAY.
GLOBE.—Of the bombardment of Tangiers
ample details will be found in another column. The
descriptions of the operations, and the comments
upon the mode in which they were executed, from
professional men who witnessed them, without having
their attention distracted by taking an active part
in the scene, will he interesting to every class of
readers ; but will be deeply so to naval and military
men. The latter will know how to appreciate the
tactics of the assailants, and the gallant resistance of
the assailed. According to the accounts of the British
officers who watched the proceedings, the French
have little to boast of in the way of superiority in
naval fight. Their unskilfulness in pointing their
guns ; the fuss and fury with which their ships com-
menced the attack in connexion with the compara-
tively trifling results of their fire upon the forti-
fications against which it was directed, caused no
little merriment among the British officers and
men who were spectators of the scene. The
merit of their criticisms we do not profess to discuss.
That the exciting scene should call up reminis-
cences of former days, when the " tug of war" was
between the assailants and the spectators, was but
natural. That these recollections should cause the
pulse of our brave seamen to beat with a quickened
pace, and inspire them with something approaching
to a wish for an opportunity of proving that British
skill and prowess have experienced no diminution,
will not excite surprise. We can appreciate the
feelings which they express with characteristic
ardour, without sharing in the hopes they breathe,•
that their services will be again required to vin-
dicate the honour and protect the interests of their
country. From the attack on Tangiers—which seemed
to threaten an interruption of the pacific relation
between France and England—a transition to the sub-
ject of increased or diminished probability of a rup-
ture between the two countries, is easy and natural.
The public mind is tremblingly alive to this inquiry.
Hope and fear, anxiety and confidence—with the mo-
difications of which each class of feeling's susc e ptible—
ascend and descend in the scale of national feeling, like
the mercury in the tube. The intelligence supplied by
the continental arrivals of the morning influence the
transactions of the day. As the political vane shifts
its inclination, so commercial operations are checked
or encouraged, and monetary transactions are de-
pressed or revive. The letter of our Paris corre-
spondent states that an improved state of feeling
toward England pervades the public mind of the
French capital. It is there generally believed that
the two Governments have arrived at an under-
standing respecting the subject-matter of difference,
which will lead to the amicable adjustment of the
disputes arising out of the outrages committed at
Otaheite by the French authorities ; and also to a
satisfactory termination of the yet more formidable
affair of Tangiers. Of such a result we had no doubt,
if the two Cainets were actuated in the negotiations
by the sound policy on which the real,interests of
their respective countries depend- Our apprehensions
of a contrary result were occasioned, on the one hand,
by the apparent disposition of the French Minister to
yield to the war party ; which has clamoured for ag-
gression and outrage, in opposition to justice and peace ;
and on the other, by the apathy which seemed to have
crept over the Government of this country with
reference to its foreign policy. The former acted as
if it were its intention to provoke England to hostile
retaliation ; while the latter seemed to encourage
renewed infractions of its rights, and movements por-
tentous to its interests, by indifference approaching
to insensibility ; or—what was yet more reprehensi•
ble—by expostulation, the gentleness of which tended
to invite a repetition of outrage, rather than a repa-
ration for wrong already inflicted. Most glady shall
we hail a change in the councils of both Cabinets.
A determined resistance of the war-faction, which
has striven to involve France in war with Eng-
land, will be the best evidence of the pacific po-
licy of the French Ministers. Such a determination,
if openly proclaimed, would be received by the bulk
of the French nation with approbation ; and would
crush the hopes of the noisy agitators, who have
sought to advance their own selfish projects, which
are threatened with extinction by the preservation
and perpetuity of peace. The best mole of indi-
cating a settled purpose to preserve peace, would be
to admit the wrongs done at Otaheite—to punish the
wrong-doers. Reparation should be made to the injured
Queen, by restoring her to the throne, with her powers
unimpaired and unfettered, from which she was de-
posed, without just reason or colourable pretext, by
French authorities; and to this country, for the in-
sult inflicted upon it in the person of its Consul.
While France confines her hostile operations against
Morocco to bombarding the fortifications on her coast,
let her expend as much powder and shot as she pleases in
that way : England will look on, without interfering,
or wishing to interfere, in the matter. But not a foot of
land must she seek to po=sess in that territory ; nor
on any other part of that coast—save Algeria ; which
she may keep, if she can. This, then, is the course
which a straightforward policy prescribes to the two
Governments. These are the terms which that of
England is bound to require of France, and France
to comply with. They are founded in justice; and
cannot be abated without compromising the honour
of England ; nor refused by France without im-
pugning the sincerity of the professions which she
makes of desiring the preservation of peace with
England.
STANDARD.—We have copied from the Times
some letters descriptive of the late attack upon Tan-
giers. We confess that if these letters hal been
offered to ourselves in the first instance, we
should have hesitated to make public art!cl_es
written in a spirit so uncandid and offensive,
and which really tell so little of what the public
can be interested to know. The criticisms of
professional men upon the operations of rivals
are seldom too liberal, but it would be unjust
to the British navy to believe that the letter writers in
the Times are what they call themselves—naval
officers. We think that these letters present, besides
their extreme illiberality, other internal evidence
demonstrative of the fact that the writers of them
are not naval officers, though probably the letters
may have been written on hoard the vessels from
which they were dated by some landsmen, instructed
by the gossip of the common sailors. As we
have observed, such offensive and unsatisfactory
letters ought not to have been printed without much
hesitation • but, as they have been printed, the mis-
chief has been done, and all that is now possible is to
limit its amount, by showing what the communi-
cations are really worth. The writers charge the
Prince de Joinville pretty directly with want both
of skill and of courage, and impute a like want of
courage to the French marine, and charge the
sailors of the squadron with a great deficiency
in naval gunnery. Now, as to the degree
of professional skill displayed by the Royal
Admiral, we are certainly no competent judges, and
if we were better qualified to judge of a naval
operation than we can pretend to be under the most
favourable circumstances, we want all the requisites
for a correct judgment, knowledge of the orders
under which the Prince acted—knowledge of the
locality and its defensible parts, knowledge of
the state of the tide, currents, wind, &c. Nor do
the Times' correspondents help us the least in
these particulars; and, indeed, one of the strongest
proofs to us that these persons are not " the
naval officers " they are represented, is their
neglect of supplying that very kind of information
which a professional man would consider the first to
be offered. But if we are unable to form any opinion
• from ourselves of the skill of the Prince de Joinville,
we certainly shall not abide by the decision of such
very incompetent judges as the Times' correspondents.
It is quite possible, nay, it is almost necessary, that
the French commander may have made some mistakes.
Every one, how much so ever experienced, makes mis-
takes at the commencement of a great operation ; if
the mistake does not materially obstruct success, as it
did not at Tangiers, it rests uncorrected—it is only
when it happens to be very important, that a
mistake gives a commander occasion to prove
• his skill by repairing it, and yet some of the
great"t
commanders, naval and military, have
rested no small part of their fame upon the repair-
ing of blunders originally committed. As to the
imputation Upon. the Prince's courage, and the
courage of the French rTy, it is somewhat late in
the day to impute coward ice to the blood of Henry
the Fourth, nothing
rinewh
degenerated, certainly, in that
Princes most intrepid ofnow governs France ;
impute late in the day, also, to ;
• which, within the memory of cowardice to a nation
many now living with
equal numbers, and in pitched fields, defeated' suc-
cessively the gallant armies of all the most gallant
a
tions of Europe, except one which it does not become
us to name. No; a braver race thaneer x
teheistFedre;ncihf
'people does not exist—probably n
they have ever found superiors in equal battle, the
superiority has lain in purely physical qualities, aided
by the stubborn confidence which a consciousness of
Physical superiority almost always inspires, until
it becomes a habit of the mind. As to the defi-
ciency of the French in naval gunnery, before
subscribing to the opinion of the Times cor-
respondents, we should like to know something of
the state of the weather; the condition of the sur-
face of the sea must seriously affect the success of
artillery practice at 800 or 1,200 yards range. We
are more sceptical on this point, because we have
lately had the pleasure of conversing with some
bona fine naval officers--men alike distinguished
by their gallantry ' and their professional skill,
men, too, who having been for some years on the
• Mediterranean station, were almost constantly in
company and in communication with the French
.'marine. Now, the report of the French naval gun-
nery which •vi. have had from these gentleman is

by no means iconiistent with the statement 3 of the
Times' correspondents. They say that the French
practice, is perfect, adding (not without a touch of
envious feeling) that all the French want is a
better quality of guns fully to equal the as
yet unrivalled gunnery displayed by the British
fleet at Acre. We think it proper thus to reply in
detail to what we believe to be the gross misrepre-
sentations of the Times, first, because it is always
right to tell the truth ; secondly, because the letters
in the Times indicate a feeling disgraceful to English-
men, and which, if not repudiated in this country as
it merits, must excite a bad feeling elsewhere.

IRELAND.
REPEAL ASSOCIATION.

DUBLIN, Arc. I9.—The usual weekly meeting of the
Association was held this day, in the Conciliation Hall.
The chair was taken by R. Dillon Browne, Esq., M.P.
The CHAIRMAN addressed the meeting at some length
on the Charitable Bequests Bill, which he denounced in
the most emphatic terms, and stated that if the Irish
Members had exhibited the least opposition to the mea-
sure, it would not have become the law of the land. In
the course of the many interviews he had with Lord
Eliot on the subject, his Lordship unequivocally stated
that if it were the wish of the Irish Members, he would
either withdraw the Bill, or, at all events, postpone it.
Mr. DANIEL O'CONNELL said, that before the business
of the day commenced, he had to move a resolution
adopted by the Parliamentary Committee, and which he
was sure would meet with the hearty concurrence of the
meeting. The Honourable Gentleman then read the fol-
lowing resolution, and moved its adoption:—
" Parliamentary Committee, Loyal National Repeal
Association, Corn Exchange Rooms, Dublin, Aug. 16.
" Resolved—That we cannot separate, even for a short
period, without our most marked and grateful thanks to
our respected Chairman, William Smith O'Brien, Esq.,
M.P., for the services which he has rendered to Ireland,
not only by his powerful and unanswerable advocacy of
the rights of his country in Parliament, but for the still
greater benefits he has conferred upon us by his con-
stant and unremitted attendance upon this (the Parlia-
mentary) Committee, whereby we were enabled to get
through a vast quantity of business of the highest im-
portance to the repeal cause ; which, but for his most
invaluable assistance, we never could have accomplished.

Passed unanimously.
" THOMAS DAVIS, Chairman."
The country knew full well the value of the services of
Mr. Smith O'Brien—they were beyond all praise.
Dr. MURPHY seconded the adoption of the resolution,
which passed amidst the loudest demonstrations of
applause.
Mr. O'CONNELL handed in several remittances—
amongst them 351. from Liverpool, and 2001. from Hali-
fax, Nova Scotia. He then read the following letter
from Mr. W. T. Wyse, M.P. :
« 17, Wilton-place, Belgrave-square, Aug. 10.
" Dear Sir,—Permit me to return my grateful ac-
knowledgments for the honour which has been done me
and my fellow Members who supported my motion for
an inquiry into the facts connected with the formation of
the jury at tke late state trials in Ireland, by the vote of
thanks passed unanimously at your meeting of last
Monday, and of which a copy has just reached me. I
earnestly wish it had been in my power to have esta-
blished some stronger claim to public gratitude than the
honest, but successless effort to vindicate trial by jury,
from even the suspicion of partiality, and an attempt to
obtain at least an inquiry into allegations, which, if
true, as I believe them to be, go far to vitiate the whole
proceedings, and inflict a serious injury, not only on Mr.
O'Connell and his fellow-sufferers, but on the rights of
all, and the cause itself of public justice. These opi-
nions I entertained, and entertain, and shall never cease
to say so—until met by some stronger argument than
assertion—both in and out of Parliament.

" Thanking you personally for the courtesy of your
communication, I beg you to believe me, dear Sir,
" Your faithful and obedient servant,
" THOS. WYSE.
Martin Crean, Esq., Acting Secretary,
Repeal Association, Dublin."
Mr. T. M'NEvIN (barrister) brought forward a report
on the " hurrying of Bills through Parliamelit," and then
commented on the indecent haste with which measure,
particularly those having reference to Ireland, were
passed on the termination of the session, whilst the early
part of it was spent with little or no advantage to the
country. The Learned Gentleman then referred to the
alteration in the sentiments of Sir Robert Peel towards
Ireland, and expressed his conviction that they could not
expect sincerity from a Statesman educated in the school
of an Eldon.

Sir V. BLAKE, M.P., read a letter from Dr. APHale,
Archbishop of Tuam, and moved its insertion on the
minutes.

Mr. O'CONNELL then rose to make his weekly return
from the prison. He had to repeat his usual report of
the health sad spirits of the imprisoned martyrs. They
were perfectly well and full of hope. It was likely,
in all appearance, that England would want the lion
heart and stout arm of Ireland, and she could easily
procure both the one and the other, not by the
means "of the plausible hypocrisy and sweet words
of Sir Robert Peel, but by the substantial instru
mentality of doing justice to the Irish. He could
state of his own knowledge that Mr. O'Connell felt
the deepest regret at not being present in the Repeal
Association that day, to join in the vote of national gra-
titude to Mr. Smith O'Brien. His opinion, he knew,
was, that it was not possible to find words sufficient])
strong to mark the pre-eminent value of that gentleman's
services in the cause of Ireland. He thought it quite
providential that a gentleman of Mr. Smith O'Brien's
high character, rank, family, and station in society, and
of his great talents aad unimpeachable personal and po-
litical integrity should be at the head of the repeal
movement at the present moment. It was of the greatest
advantage that the leader of the repeal movement at pre-
sent should be a Protestant gentleman of ancient family.
Mr. Smith O'Brien, therefore, had all the ingredients of
great public utility, and he had sterling patriotism to ren-
der these ingredients available for Ireland. He could state
it to be the opinion of Mr. O'Connell that the Association
should take steps to get as many persons as possible, not
being already pledged teetotallers, to take the abstinence
pledge for a limited period—that is, until the repeal of
the union. Mr. O'Connell had consulted Father Mathew,
who approved of the limited plan for those who would
not take the pledge for life. Four of Mr. O'Connell's
grandsons had already taken it in the limited shape, and
Mr. Smith O'Brien upon his return from the country
would probably shape a motion for an aggregate meet-
ing at Clontarf, or some other suitable vicinity, to ad-
minister " The Repeal Total Abstinence Pledge."
He had also reason to know that Mr. O'Connell con-
curred in another suggestion of Mr, Smith O'Brien, to
have another pledge taken, as universally as possible,
against the consumption of tobacco in any shape until
the repeal of the union. That pledge, if universally, or
even generally taken, would have a great effect upon
the minds of British statesmen in favour of doing justice
to Ireland. He knew that it was the intention of Mr.
O'Connell himself, upon the 30th of May, 1845, to in-
stitute a pledge for the non-consumption of exciseable
articles in Ireland, and also a pledge for the non-use of
any article not of Irish manufacture. All these pledges
would be upon the same footing as the total abstinence
pledge. In reporting to the Association the state of the
imprisoned martyrs, he had distinctly to state, of his own
knowledge, that nothing could give more pleasure and
comfort to them than the continued tranquillity of Ire
land. How insane must the policy of the British Minis-
ter be to think that he can delude such a people by hypo-
critical pretences and plausible words, and how much
more than insane must he be to refuse that people jus-
tice and constitutional freedom.

Mr. HENRY GRATTAN, :11.P., read the correspondence
which had taken place between Mr. Smith O'Brien and
the Secretary of the Agricultural Society, and moved its
insertion on the minutes. The Hon. Gentleman then
addressed the meeting at considerable length, adverting
to a variety of topics, with a view of showing that there
was no hope for Ireland save in the restoration of her
domestic legislature.

Mr. MARK BLAKE, M.P., handed in a sum of money
from the county of Mayo.
Mr. O'CONNELL handed in 301. from Prince Edward's
Island, and from Milwankie, Wisconsin, United States,
America, 91. per Richard Murphy, Esq., secretary, vt ho
says—" While we (the repealers of Milwankie) sin-
cerely condole with your friends throughout the world at
your (Mr. O'Connell's) imprisonment—one of the foulest
acts of British tyranny—we rejoice in the confident
hope that, though you suffer, your incarceration will
beget the peace and freedom of Ireland. A world's
sympathy is not to be disregarded—a fact which the
Tory Ministry may yet learn ; and that they have done
an act tending more than any other to excite that sym-
pathy seems to us evident."
Mr. J. REILLY, town councillor, handed in several
sums of money, forwarded to him for presentation, and
then addressed the meeting.
Mr. O'CONNELL then announced the receipt of the
following sums from America :—Montreal, 1251. ; New
Brunswick, 1001. ; St. John's, 140/. He then said it
would be in the recollection of the meeting that a bill of
exchange for 1781. 14s. 9d. had been returned to New
Orleans, in consequence of some matter which was con-
tained in the letter which accompanied that remittance,
recommending the adoption of measures which would
have the effect of compromising their allegiance. Their
friends in New Orleans had acknowledged their error,
and now forwarded them the sum of 2421., accompanied
by the following letter :
" New Orleans, July 19, 1844.
" Dear Sir,—We have received your valued letter of
the Ist ult., in which you return us the bill of exchange
for 1781. 14s. 9d., transmitted to you in aid of the Loyal
National Repeal Association of Ireland. We have care •
fully perused the reasons for which Mr. O'Connell would
not receive this slender but well-meant contribution, and
we have come to the conclusion that the elevated and
patriotic motives of the repeal question have not been
properly understood by our Society here.
" I find, and indeed I may safely say we have all found,
that the basis of this all-important question is founded
upon such just, peaceable, and patriotic principles, that
to pervert them would not only endanger this righteous
cause, but at the same time jeopardise those valuable
lives, which are at present shedding so bright a lustre on
the glory of Ireland.
_ In the name of the. Repeal Association, I beg to state
t thhetfownnereerpet
remittancedeeply that the
of the resolutions
uarce as comptaonying
pre-
clude the possibility of their being received; and in order
to rwNe'olel tmheata,nta,lthwoeubgehg wleraevneglythoesxt prreesspseecdt,futply7
twowere
still well meant, we beg leave, most respectfully, to in.
close you the sum of 2421.
" In conclusion, we pray that the God of Justice may
bless the fortunes )
rePea
, GEORGE W. REEDER
(! ' "
Corresponding Secretary of the Repeal Asso-
ciation of New Orleans.
" Martin Crean, Esq."

After some further business, Mr. Henry Grattan
pounced the rent for the week, 1,1624 3s. 9d. an-
The meeting then adjourned.

INSPECTION OF THE REVENUE CRUISERS.

This day the splendid fleet of revenue cruisers now
assembled in the Bay of Dublin, were inspected by the
Lord Lieutenant.

His Excellency reached Kingstown about twelve
o'clock, and, after some conversation with Mr. J. Vim,
jun., the treasurer of the Dublin and Kingstown Rail-
way, and Mr. G. Roe, one of the directors, respecting
the atmospheric line to Dalkey, which has excited so
much interest in all parts of Europe, embarked on board
the revenue brig Shamrock, Captain Goldsmith, R.N.,
and sailed into the bay, where the fleet of cruisers went
through various evolutions. The Commodore, Sir J.
Dombrain, and the Vice-commodore, Captain Bowie,
were in attendance upon his Excellency.
The jetty at Kingstown was crowded with people.
CHARGE OF SEDITION.

At Galway sessions, on Friday, Joseph Keys, a man
of colour, who had been forcibly ejected from a temper-
ance room, for having delivered a seditious speech to the
members, was brought up in custody.
Mr. John Tyrrell, repeal warden, stated that he was,
on the evening of Tuesday the 6th instant, at the Parent
Temperance Room, and that while the band was prac-
tising the prisoner entered, and, calling for silence, ob-
served that he was one of those who owed their emanci-
pation to Mr. O'Connell, who was then in prison ; that
the repeal would be had, but not until their repeal but-
tons were flung aside, and the sword and pitchfork taken
up first. Witness, on hearing this language, called upon
the persons present to put out the prisoner, which was
done at once.
Other witnesses corroborated this statement.

The prisoner then stated that he was a sailor, and
lived last at Newtown Forbes, three miles from Longford
where he was repairing a boat; that he came to Galway
on the sth instant, in expectation he might get employ-
ment in a ship. He recollected he had been at the Tem-
perance Rooms, but not what he had said ; and it was
evident that unless he were tipsy he woul not have
gone among strangers, or done what was imputed to him.
Mr. GRIFFITH, one of the magistrates, said, it was the
opinion of himself and Mr. Kernan, that the prisoner
ought not to be committed for trial on the charge, but
bound in his own recognizances of 201. to keep the peace
for seven years.
The prisoner then entered into his own recognizances,
and was liberated.

THE FUNDS-(CLOSING PRICES.)

BRITISH FUNDS.
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SHARES.
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Bristol and Gloucester, 30 paid
Caledonian, 5 paid
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Ditto, New 'thirds, 2 paid
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Yarmouth and Norwich (18 paid)
Paris and Rouen. 20 paid
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STATE OF TRADE AT MANCHESTER.--There was
rather less buoyancy in the market yesterday ; and
prices of some descriptions of goods were a shade lower
than last week. In reeled yarn, there was no change of
price; but the demand was not quite so active as during
the two or three preceding weeks.—ROCHDALE FLANNEL
MARKET, Auc. 19.—This being the day of the wakes,
fewer buyers have attended, and the business transacted
has been more limited than last week. The wool Market
continues steady and prices firm.—Manchester Guardian.