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London, England, 1819-11-24 00:00:00

THE ADDRESS.

Earl M ANVERS rose to move the customary Ad-
chess to the Prince Regent on the occasion of the
Speech from the Throne, The Noble Earl stated
his consciousness of his own inability to do justice
to the very important subjects to which the Royal
Document referred, especially in a crisis of such
peril and alarm as the present confessedly was.—
Of the correctness and importance of every thing
which was so stated to Parliament, he was fully
convinced ; and consequent upon which, he
thought that there`could be no well-founded dif-
ference of sentiment as to the most 'advisable
course or line of policy to be adopted. lie was

Earl GREY rose, and in a speech of considerable
!cowl!, addressed the House on the very import-
ant subject before it. He agreed that the present
circumstances of the country we're-such as to place
it in a state of uery extraordinary difficulty and
danger, though he felt it his duty to state, that
the line of policy inculcated in the Address
was not such as he could fully concur in. The
Internal state of the country was, be tilt, one of
a dangerous and appalling nature ; hut in .consi-
dering it as such, he could not put out of his view
the line of conduct, no small portion of which
was, he thought, attributable, to Ministers, who
gave rise to it. The line of policy recommended
seemed to ineltide no attempts or endeavours for
the relief of a suffering people, or me3sures of
conciliation, but such as appeared of an opposite
character; so deeming it, it was impossible he
could give the present Address his concurrence.
The causes whicb essentially contributed to the
present situation of the country were kept out of
sight. The Noble Earl then slightly glanced at
the minor topics in the Address, and no the pre-
sent occasion confined himself to what related to
the intern,' -situation of the country. It was unde-
niable, beaaid,:that a general discontent seemed
io prevail;' And also an abatement in that necessa-
ry respeci for those institutions established lot the
protection of the people. In such a crisis, the
danger Must he great. In viewing this, however,
the 'causes which led to -such a mate of things
were first- to be considered. The people:- were
led to believe, that their Ruler had either blindly
or wilfully neglected to make those provisions
which were best calculated to diminish their h.,ird-
ships or ameliorate their condition. There were
many who doubtless were led by the arts and ma-
chinations of others into a line of conduct,which,
if persisted in, &mild induce their ruin, Some
of their projects were undoubtedly of a natme
equally dangerous to the public interes!s and to
• the tranquillity of the realm. To such, he for
one would teish to oppose the most determined
and uncompromising; resistance ; at the same time,
he must think the existing laws fully adequate to
avert what was apprehended or complained of.—
The liberties of the people he must consider as
the best support and security of the State, and so
far as arty laws were calculated to abridge these,
in such proportion they endangered the best secu-
rity of the State. On this principle, he would be
constitutionally cautious in investing the Crown
with extraordinary or unnecessary powers. ,The
discontent extended to many of the most popu-
lous districts; and it was an axiom with him,
that where great discontent prevailed, there was a
strong presumption of great mismanagement.—
The distressed circumstances of a great pall of the
country grad imperiously called for the anxious at-
tention of Government, and the people should he
•shown that the protection of Parliament was duly
extended to them. In this view they should look
at the actual conduct of Government, especially in
the last year. Instead of attempting the reduc-
tion of the public- expenditure, they had greatly
added to its burthens, and upheld the most
abusive establishments. Instead of making
the promised retrenchments, no less titan three
millions of additional taxes were added to
the hurthens of the people. To this may
be, added the -almost total stagnation of trade
in several districts ; no ~yonder, therefore, that
much discontent prevailed. Alluding briefly to
the wild and visionary projects of those who were
called the Radical Reformers, the Noble Earl•ex-
pressed an opinion, that sonic alteration with re-
spect .to the' Commons House of Parliame»t was
perhaps necessary ; but he felt that what was
called Radical Reform meant radical sobversiou.
He next adverted to the important affair of the
Manchester Meeting." Respecting this, lie calcu-
lated, that an inquiry as to the real nature of the
transaction was necessary. The occurrence was
as unfortunate and fearful an occurrence as any,
perhaps, upon record. The scenes produced by
that meeting, were such as that no man could look
at without feeling the strongest emotion. It was
of that nature which called for a separate and im-
partial discussion. Such he hoped would take
place, and that much gen.l would result front the
inquiry. The circumstances, prima facia, were,
he thought, such as afforded strong presumption
against the conduct of the Magistrates, and, this
should be a strong motive for specific inquiry. It
should be proved, in a view of justification, not
only that the meeting was illegal, but that the
means taken for dispersing it were illegal. It
Should be shown that they had acted tinder impe-

the dele:erions consrqoences of such a state .of
things by efficient investigation, as preliminary to
rentedial measures. The present state of Ireland,
his Lordship also thought, merited a serious in.
vestigation, and where, perhaps, grievances not
dicsitnilar would call for commensurate remedies,
and it should.be considered, that disastrous events
in that country had led to consequences fatal to
its constitutional Independence ; and how far the
adoption of a similar system with respect to this
country-may karl-to similar results, was a most se.
tioos consideration fur the anxious attention of Par.
liameut. Atter some further observations on these
general grounds, his Lordship repeated, that under
the present circumstances, he could not concur
in the pi oposed Address. He therefore took the
!risco ty of moving an Amendment, which went to
express his ideas as to the real duty of Parliament.
under circumstances so important, and which in-
culcated the necessity of immediate and impartial
inquiry into the real state of the country, parti•
cularly alit) respect to the unfortunate occur.
rences which took place -at Manchester on the
16(h of August last.
The question, as arising from the Noble Earl's
proposition, being then put,
Viscount SIDMOUTH rose.--He observed, that
feeling the official responsibility, principally, if
not exclusively, on the point to which the Noble
Earl principally referred, to lest with himself, he
' thus early presented himself to the attention
of their Lordships. The Noble &al seemed to
attribute the disastrous events which had arisen
chiefly to the neglect at Parliament, in not at-
tending to its public duties, and in providing for
no measures of retrenchment in the expenditure,
and not attending to the wants or distresses oi
the people. In refutation of such an assumption,
he would refer their Lordships merely to the
events of the last Session, in which, were it in
the army alone, retrenchments were made to an-
extent which appeared to satisfy, according to
their language, even the Noble Lords at the
other side of the House, and by some they would
appear to have been considered.as carried too far.
With respect, however, to the principal point in
question, lie entertained opinions different from
those avowed by the Noble Earl. The anxiety
of Ministers was apparent its the advice they gave
the Prince Regeut for an early assembly of Par.!
liameat, for the purpose of- laying before it at
one view a clear exposition of the real state of
the toontry, in order to enable it to judge whe-
ther detailed inquiry vas necessary or not,
or what provisions of law may be necessary
either for rendering clear that which may be
deemed ambiguous, or what addition rosy be made
to the military force of the country. Th'e4rans-
actions at Manchester certainly formed ;a ireotni-
nent object, and he must say, that if there was
ever a transaction where misrepresentation or
. exaggeration as to its nature prevailed, in any one
case more than another, it was in that of Man-
chester.—(Hear, hear, hear !)—The Magistrates
were spoken of merely as those, of Manchester,
but such was not the case ; they were chiefly
among those of the Counties of Lancaster aunt
Chester. They were all persons of high charac-
ter, respectability, and property, and who gave
their anxious attention from day to day to the
important -events which were occurring in that
quarter, with a view to the preservation of the
public peace. The conduct of Mr. Hale, the
Chairman, was highly meritorious. They were
called Stipendiary Magistrates ; that was not the
case, and the most active of those who more im
mediately appertained tb Manchester, were nokoi-

,nated by the 'Chancellor Of the Duay, at the re-
miiest of many respectable inhabitants ; and he
in contend their -conduct was not chargeable
with any imputation frf culpable neglect or wilful
ert or The meeting in question was composed in
u great measure of persons who had marched
to the ground in military array—large bodies of
individuals bad been for months before regularly
training in military exercises. They came to the
meeting with symbols indicative of their design to
subvert the Coostitotion; with flags heaving the
most iofiammatory and unequitsocal inscriptions.
All these were strong presumptions its favour of
the Magistrates.--(Hear, hear, hear !)--Tbe
Magistrates had also oth r grounds for their con-
duct ; the intended meeting of the 9th of August
was of a nature avowedly against all law ; the
leaders received notice from the Magistrates
that such a Meeting would not be permitted.
Then the meeting of the 16th was resolved
on. No charge had beets preferred against the
Nagistratei, but all the Bills of Indictment
hsid at their instance against the offending p.ir-
ias, ss ere without hesitation found by the
Grand Juries. The conduct of the Yeomanry,
who nets recurred to, as all aSaiStailell! to the
Civil Power, was, in point of fact, nniinpesch-
nhle ; neither they, nor any of the sold try,
had made an unjust use of their power. The
charges against liens were not found entitled to
attention and that was strongly in their favour.—
(Hear, hear !)-1-1e had nn doubt bur the at
satisfactory account of their condors would be
establjshed, and pinve a COMplere denial of tvlsat
W 43 alleged against them. The Noble S'ectetary
then proceeded to the vindication of the Miliwy
who were caiied in Ott the occasion, and avowed
that what was adjudged against them,particula Opine
15th regiment of litissars.was false and groundless,
told this appeared irons he inquiries which had been
set on foot, especially through Ilse medium of Sir
Joists Byrn;;. Fur any More particular detail,
he must reserve himself till the arrival of the
day in which the subject should b.e particularly
eon.blered, either with respect to the loyalty of
the Meeting, or with refereote to any information
of which Government were exclusively possessed ;
and with respect to facts which could not be con-
ttoverted. He could venture to assert, upon his
confidence inAhe opinions of those who had been
consulted, that the conduct which had been so
notch impugned, was perfectly justifiable. In
cases of this sort their Lordships most be aware
that to talk of a sweeping responsibility was of no •
avail. On Wednesday the l'ith of August, two
Gentlemen came to town for the purpose of potting
his Majesty's Government in possession of the
real situation of the stare of affairs at Man-
chester. This information more strongly con-
fir the propriety of proceeding in the course
laid down, and with this accumulation of facts
it had still beet) deemed necessary to forego
proceedings until the opinion of the Law Offi-
cers of the Crowp had beets taken, which de-
clared the meeting to be illegal, and the conduct
of the Magistrates jost and proper.—(hear !)
What, lie asked, would have heirs the situation
of these, Magistrates, who had sacrificed every
thing to the service of their country, if iris Ma.
jesty's Ministers, instead of doing as they had,
had said, " Something may come out at sonic
future time, and we bad better wait ?"—(}lean,
heat !) —ll ad there ever existed any period at
which their Lordship .harl beets more indispeo-
sably called • a to protect the Constitution and
Laws of this Country 1 It had been stated that a
oumger of persons had lost their lives at Manches-
ter,- and this subject was strongly dwelt on ; but it
should be recollected that these were not 9se only
persons who had suffered. One person con-
sleeted with the Police•offiee had actually been
stoned to death in the open face of .day !
(Heat !)—Two other persons who had given
evidence on the Inquest at Oldham, had had
their lives placed its tine most imminent danger,
having beets fired at several times, but yet their
cases bad in some measure been lost sight of.
There was not, in fact, doting the whole pro-
ceedings, one life lost us consequence of the laws;
the course pursued was justifiable in every view
of it ; and had the Atagistrates not acted as they
had done, the situation of the country might have
now been the most frightful. Their Lordships
were now called upon to perform a great duty,
and he felt convinced that they would so perform
that duty as to give entire satisfaction to the coon-
try, at large, and satisfy the people that his Ma-
jesry's Ministers were doing every thing in their
power to ameliorate their situation.—(Hear,
hear, bear !)-1-le would not enter into the parti-
culars of the cause that induced his Majesty to
dispense with the services of a NOble Earl to
whom allusion had been made, but he must say
that the conduct of that Noble Earl was such as
to render it indispensably necessary to follow such
a course. Atter ass aisle and argumentative
speech, • his Lordship concluded by saying, that
understanding the present subject would, at a.fts-
titre period, occupy the attention of their Lord.
ships, Ise would not enter farther into it at present,
but, at the same time, expressed his intention to
vote fur the Address as it stood ; and if the Noble
Earl persisted its his Amendment, be would meet
with a direct. negative.

Lord ENSK N E observed, the only quest ion now
was to know; whether their Lordships should vote for the
Address or the Amendment ? The question was certainly one
of the greatest interest ; and as the Noble Viscount sslio bad
just sat down had told them that he would not enter into the
lkinendment, he should -only detain their Lordship+ for a
few moments longer. The question was no less than whether
they should vote for the Amendment., or whether they should
telt the people that their wrongs should he redressed by
them. It it were true that the question would have been
prejudged on the former occasion, what right had they to
prejudge it now? He contended that many of the dangers
that hay arisen were created by the non-attendance to the
complaints of the people, and it was now for their Lordships
to prove to them t Me they weret heir Representatives. There
had beya meetings of great multitudes of the people, but it
was not likely that, as in the present case, they would have
taken with thee► defenceless WOUICii and children, if their ob-
ject Lad been really that described. If such was the case, the
itiot Act ought to have been read, which did not appear to have
been done. %Vas it to be said, that a man, because he was a
felon, was to be sabred ? Was it to be said, that because
the :‘lalistrates were right in dispersing the Meeting, the
Millis,
,) were justified hr going into it', and cutting the people
sight a ri left ? If the use made. of the Military on the pre-
scot ~casi.on, were to pass nonutieetl, when it became legally
lii(s .ry its use would become vitiated. He had been in a
sitimico to stand before a Grand Jury at the very time the
Privy Connell were del berating ou the very rtes of Parlia-
no tit in which hit application was founded. He was fill!7
c.ole,leed that the State could not be safe unless the petitiaris
of t::, peopto were attended to, and lie L • called on their

Mt-obi6ll,e to convince:them ihe-y (Irfermiß,l
Drove to thew ..t wt. they %%et e sineere, hy x(l6pting the Antewl•
mew.

Lord KING. contended that notfiing thit bad
passed subsequently had tended„.to ellaylhe sensation that
had been created by the transactions at Manchester. He
complained that the multitude had been suffered to meet at
all, and of the moment that had been thonght most proper
to arrest the individuals. ,lbe'conduct pursued, he described
to have had the effect of setting one class of the community
at. variance with the other, and ascribed the prevent snot'.
tion of the country to the want of a timely retort:. He ad-
verted to the sum await:NV to his !loyal Highness the Duke
of York in the last Session, which he comploOlied of, as nid
be also of the adjournment of the Oldham Inquest. I-li;
Lordship concluded by lamenting that any circumstances
should have arisen that might have the effect of breaking
down the wholesome feeling that ought to exist between the
people and the Government, and exhorting their Lordships
net to come to any conclusion without duly considering the
importance of the subject.
Lot d CAitYsFonT art tied at very considerable
length in support of the Address. Was it possible, he asked,
that such a meeting as that which was now t lie subject of
discussion, ruulel, marching as it had dime in sock frightful
array, be considered as any tli"fog like a law ful ? If
t tc pt inciple that had been contended for were to he acted
on, what so curity load tioo it Lordships, ior the peaceable in-
habitaats of the country, for tiwir property? flow could they
tie secure, when false repres,m'ai Mos, all all the arts of thee
d•sallecled, were resorted to for the put pose of poisoning the
pohl,c mind. if such assemblies were to he sulfated, anal thus,
Ivy exciting violence, raise up a new Dynasty ? What would
hate been said at the Revolution, if, io the time' Ilf 1,01 So-
wers, Grand .ho ies had been treated as ihey were wished to
be at present.--rflear, hear !)-llis Lordship then adverted
to the sitnatiou the Magistrates would be placed in, if they
were nut protected, awl proceeded to enforce the necessity
of upholding the State, and making the people sensible that
their happiness was the first and riincipal object of his Ma-
jesty's Ministers. He concluded by regt-tling that he had
not the opportunity of expressing his feelings to the late
Lord Lieutenant, whom he had known fur upwards of fifty
'oars, and whom he had also known to have acted loyally on
very many occasions, and lov expressing his hope that the pre-
diction would never be vcri-fieil.

1 h... Duke of ATnoLL defended the character
of the northern parts of the lerigilinn, which his Lordship de-
scribed as ranking a; high is loyalty as any class of his Ma-
jesty's subjects, until the march of blasphemy and sedition
had commenced among tiieni, aided as it had been be the d.-
lezatcl who had been sent do..vn. Ile called on the Goret U-
ltima to wrest the deluded from the gripe of the dcorigogoes
in question. Ile described the meaning of Radical Reform to
he nothing less than one pet smi taking from another his
:Nods. His Lordship then showed the necessity of the mea-
sures that had been adopted, and instanced the case of the
French Revolution, to show the dangers to be apprehendcd
from) women bring concerned, when it was known thAt they
had gorse to the most dreadful excesses.

Lord LILFORD Showed from a paper which be
read, the rapid march of disaffection, contending for the pro-
priety of the measures adopted to stop the torrel:l. The Ma-
gistrates of Manchester were most desirous of explaining
every thing. they had done.

11;mi GREY disclaimed any intention of imputing
blame to the Ahnebester 111agistrates in particular, but had
merely wished to imply the great importance of 4 he inquiry.

The LOBl3 CHANCELLOR, in an able 31,ecch,
defended the conduct of Ministers. He would not sacrifice
principles to support the Manchester Magistrates, or any other
Magistrates, but he would exert to the utmost of his power
his abilities, in support of the people.—(Year, hear, hear.)—
It was impossible, his Lordship contended, for any man in
possession of the facts, to say that the Manchester :Meeting,
was a legal one ; but, from what was now going on in the
Courts of Law, he aln►ust ireaded to give an opinion, but,
after the examinations that had taken place, who could say, if
it was not treasonable it was lawful ?—(Hear, bear, hear!)—
When every man knew as much of the eaae as his Lordship,
he was convinced that no other conclusion would be come to.
Much had been said about the Attorney-General not haring
gone beforea Grand Jury, instead of bling ex officio infor-
mations. Now what was the fact? The case bad been be-
fore the Grand Jury, who had decided that no inquiry
was necessary, and this they were to be told was the reason
N•hy an inquiry was to be demanded.—(Hear, hear,
hear')--'Tie Advocates fur Reform did Hut wish to matte
the poor rich, but to make the poor pixir indeed. It had
been said that there was an objection to enter into a
Parliamentary• Inquiry, and that depositions had been refused
to be received by certain Magistrates, but of what avail could
a I'a►liamentary Inqui►y be when the question was now un-
der discussion in the Court of King's Bench? With respect
to the observation of the non-reading of the Riot Ace, his
Lordship observed, by the previous Acts, and there had been
several of them, to that of Geo. 1., it was not possible that it
could have been intended that in the event of facts arising
within a quarter of an hour after the reading of. the Riot Act,
that -would warrant the intef►•rvnee of the Magistrates, that
they might not be at lilies ty to act, but must be compelled to
wait the other three quarters of an hour until, in all probabi-
lity, the whole power of the State would be palsied—(l-lea!,
hear !)—lo conclusion, his Lordship said he could not sit
down without saying, that fvr the peace of the country, and
on every principle of the English laws, the Meeting was illegal;
Lord ERSKLNE explained.

•
The Nfilryness of LANSDoWNE contended, at
very considerable length, on the danger of suffering the Ma-
gistrates to hold their power uncontrolled by the Legi.lature,
which the refusal of the, present inquiry would , savour of.
lie contended that riuti-,;e of its illegality ought to'have been
given, as hail been done in the filmier instance, and condemn-
ed the arrest of Hunt after the- Meeting had Commenced,
-when he misfit bave:beon arrested before, without incurring
airy danger. The Government, he contended, had not so
bunch to dread from the. Radicals, as front the general opinion
of the country, that they did not act for their welfare, and
which would alone strengthen the hands of the Radicals, and
place the Government in the II URN ut and 41eSigili114
IMI,VeS,Cd With the tedling6 he had expressed, he oft-,
served that be was induced solely on that account to vote fur
the azticticluicut of his Noble Friend.

Lord LtveaPooL would not detain their Lord-
;hips by going into a detail of the various facts that had conic
to his knowledge, particularly as their Lordships were in-
formed that the subject would again become the subject of
future inquiry. If the Aniendnieut were agreed to, one great
object would be defeated, namely, the important fact that
Parliament were prepared faithfully and diligeatly to ,tahe
into consideration the state of the country, and to appease
the feeling of the troubles which were stated to exist. His
Lordship coincided fully with the Noble Lord on the ‘Vool-
sack, in the sentiments that had fallen from him. Was the

situation of the country in 1793 the same at that of the pre-
sent day ? The Inquiry that then took place was on the safety
of the country, and not respecting the Magistrates. He did
not see how any Inquiry could nose take place, for if that was
done they must suspend the operation of the Courts below;
aliholl,;11 it was true a case might arise of so peculiar a nature
as would warrant such a procedure; but could it he said
that such seas the case now ? The Noble Lord then defended
the conduct of his colleagues, contending that the Magistrates
were warranted in the course they had pursued. He dwelt
on the consegnenees that might have resulted, and declared
that there never had existed a case i❑ which the merits had
been more con,idered than that of the declaratio❑ approving
of the conduct of the Magistrates. Let the case of the Nlan-
chester Magistrates be stated as it would be, to all the world.
Let it be stated that ‘lO,OOO men came to the meeting armed,
—let it be stated what teas written on their flags. " Liberty
or Death," was the motto on one of them ; and then let it be
asked if the meeting was not treasonable I If it was not trea-

.Wits it not tinlaWful ? did they not evince the
omit:est disposition of carrying their object, if not by force,
at least by exciting terror ? This was the feeling of the
people of Manchester.—(Hear, hear, hear!)—Were eve}'
such meetings heard of before?—(Hear, hear!)—Until with-
in these few years, such meetings ha na been heard of;
and !oohing at the present one, was it trot to•be acknow•
ledged a dutiful act of the Magistrates to disperse it? The
Magistrates bad not atted until they had seen bodies of
2000, 3000, and even five and six thodsands of men,
marching in military array ;.--and not till they had seen
this did they pronounce the meeting to be illegal. Trial
by Jury was now treated with contempt by some persons.
What intention had been evinced toprevent inquiry ? Three
weeks after the meeting, the Magistrates had preferred
bills against certailt persons for their conduct at the meeting.
But what followed. The Agent of some of the persons who had
teen injured preferred five bills against the Yeomanry Ca-
valry, which the Grand Jury had ignored, and this was thine
by a .lury composed of some of the highest rank and talent
of the country, and Noblemen and Gentlemen of all par-
ties. If there was evidence against the Magistrates, let it he
brought forward in a regular u. ; but front the course wish-
ed to be pursued, it should seem that there was a plan to Ott
down the Magistrates of the Country.—(Hear, hear!)—it
was not by the numbers of the disaffected, hot by clamour,
that lievolution was brought about.—(Hear, hear, hear!)—
If the present. proceedings were suffered to goon, it mattered
not what their numbers were, as it would, without any parti-
cular increase, involve the Country in destruction. The loyal
part of the Country now looked to Parliament for protection,
and nothing short of giving it would secure them.

I,!ird LANSDOWN cxpl:►incd.
The Earl of CAIINARVON supported the. Ainendment.

The Alargness of BUCK:MiI-IAM shortly supported the
Amendment, and agreed in the necessity of trnarding by all
Fusible means against the clangers with whit It the Coo,' tt-
tion •.yat menaced, by the seditious proceedings or the present
time 3.
The House then divided on the question of the Amend-
ment—

Not-Contents ...
Proxies

Contents
Proxies

..... 121

:.--- 159

Majority for Ministers ... 145.
ta:ljourned at HALV-PAST ELEVEN.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

At a quarter past two o'clock, several Members
haviog been .present, the Deputy Usher of the
Black Rod summoned the House in the usual
manoer, to the Bar of the House of Lords. The
SPEAKS R then proceeded, with a number of Mem-
kers, to the !loose of Lords, and on his room
acquainted the Houie, that, during the recess, he
hut! issued his warrant for new Writs for Mem-
bers, to serve (or the following pher2 :—The
County of Longford—tbe County of Kent-the
County of Her ford—Kinross-shire—the Ci?), of
Heretortl—the City of Chichester—the Borough
of Arundel—and the Borough of Banbury.
Twenty-five new Members took the oaths and
!heir seats.
Naw IVRIT —A new Writ was ordered 'to be
made out for a -Member to serve, for the B.sroueb
of Peterborilogh, in the room -of the Hon. Win.
Lamb, who had accepted the Stewardship of the
Chiltern Hundreds.'

The Clandestine Outlawry Bill WAS read a first
time.

THE ADDRESS.

'• The SPCAKRR acgiiaintr►i the Howe that it bad
heen to the house of Lords to bear the Address Of
his Royal Highness the Prince Regent', -and that
in order to prevent mistakes, he had procured a
copy of the same. The Right Honourable Gen-
tleman then read the Speech (for which'see our
Lordb' fleport.)_

The lloir:-J.-SomEas .Cocxs then rose to move
the Address. Approving as he did of the means
pursued by his Majesty's Government, and feeling
it his duty, under existing circom.tances-, to avow
his sentiment-4, he rose with much pleasure upon
the present occasion to move the Address, in
answer to the Speech front the Throne. With
regard to the first topic introduced in the Royal
Address, he was sure that no difference of opinion
could be found in that House. The allusion to
the corninned iodi';uosition of our venerable Sri-
vereign would be received with an mianimoos
feeling. But in calling upon the House to ex-
press its sympathy (or the afflicted state of his
Majesty, it was impossible that their tniutis should
not be attracted to the blight example of moral
and domestic excellence, which that illtivt ions in-
dividual had left behind him, anti which he fer-
vently hoped might long be cherished and held
up for imitation it, this country.—(Hear, hear !)
It was with a particular feeling of in crest he
pointed to the character of our Sovereign, at a
time when all those virtues, which so eminently
shone forth in his person, were every day in dati-
ger of being destroyed by the machinations of
evil disposed. Amid here he should ask, was it
tint monstrous to suppose. that persons professing
a friendship for the people—et deep regard for their
rights and privileges, should prove so obstinately
inimical to their true interests and comforts ?
(Ilear!)—Upon this occasion here were some coo-
-1 sideratioos which demanded the most serious alien-
' (ion of the [louse. They were assembled at an 111111
sual.seasoo, in consequence of a spirit of disaf-
fection 'having manifested itself in many parts of
the manufacturing districts. There never indeed
was a time when the public eye was more atteo-
live to their proceedings than at present.—(flear,
hear I.)—When the general ansiely was therefore
so extraordinary, as compared with other occa-
sions—wheu it was notorious that attempts were
daily making to undermioe the institotions of the
Cotortry—to detract from the veneration of reli-
gioniMl to sap the foundations whereon law
and social order were maintained ;—wl,eu this
was the case, he would ask, did there Out now
exist a pet iml of diffictiltysnfEcient to none every
divided interest, and evety party, in order to
avert the blow from the common enemy ?
(11,,t n,—Were they tint taught to look up to the
Constitution as their sateguard— as the best sects-
dry for all classes ? Hut lie should now avoid
pressing the consideration of a qnestion,to which
the pursuit of this topic would neeessari;y
lead bin). lie was aware that men ernioAnt .for
their eloquence and knOwleilge had already given
their opinions to the world upon it. lf," then, be
Was justified in saying, that it was the duty of

• every Man to give what suport he could towards
, the maintenance of the Constitution, was tie not
eight in thinking, that every difference of opinion
. as to other points should be tnerged in the gene"
. rag feeling of common se'ety and commou rt".:"
section ? It was, he should ever maintain; thew-
.
dutye—anal a.. duty paramOunt to allothers"---to
hand down to their posterity theConstitutionwith all its means of security.—(Cheers.)—Tilts -
was a question which should at once destroy every
' thing like party spirit. In times of quietness and
security, he had no objection to a regular Opp-
' skims. It being in his mind evident that no daft'
, ger proceeded ttuftt Ministers, perhaps it was n't
going too far to believe, that it came float that
class of persons expressly alluded to in the Speech.
. Ile was sloe it was by no meatis enreasooable.,
1 to fix at least the soapicien, that this dodger
arose (tern the loug.sconcerted attempts of those
not ot ionsly disloyal and setlitious—f root me"
; who were bankrupts in lot tone, in cha-
. tauter, and iii principle. Was it not manifest,
that there was a class of persons in this country,
the aunt of whose daily exertions it teas to tinder-
' mine the public feeling of reskat for religion ?
%Vas it not their constant purpose to eradicate
' all those rules and.maxiinCot: conduct which are
i so strictly inculcated by the System of faith which
we profess ? !lad they not endeavoured but too
I successfully to gain over to their wicked dnetrioes
many of those who would have remained steadily
I pursuing a course 'of honest industry it they had
not been tampered with ? and, fioady, had they
not attempted to create and multiply distressefor
no other purpose than to fat m a pretext fur the
dissemination of their dcstiuctive principles ? It
l' was, he assured the flutists, a tact, that during the
. late harvest, in those counties' from which the
sot plus of the population used to migrate for the.
purpose of gettiog employment tonongst the
• oeig,hbour.ng farmers, they had run removed
themselves, so ' strong was the d isi oClints !ion
ca, eted it" their minds, isy the wicked incitemetata , ,
practised upon them. 'they had tentaihed in itiles.
'less and distress at home, expecting, as they weld
wickeuly led to believe, all those btessiags which
Reform was to Whig them. What was indeed
the meaning of their Reform ? Flow different was
it from the moderate 'teflon' of those who made
lit form to consist with the maintenance of the
Constitution, and the security and peace of the
country! The word lt, form, it it meant ally thing,
was only a cant tel m for llevohition. 'lke Re-
form he alluded to was that which contempt:yeti
Universal Seffr,ige and Annual Parliaments—. .
(Hear !)—He wished, indes!, that the appre-
• hensions which he ft It for the peace and
security of the State, were groundless ; he
would, be delighted to find that. he was wrong.
But the unfortunate truth forced itself upon his
mind. It was nut possible ter him to View whhe
out dread the agitated state of different parts of
the country, and see the determination with which
an organized system of hosiility to every thing
established was carried on. 'lwo yea-vs ago, 411
assurance was plainly held oirt, that the friends ,
of Rero!ntion would be found active in their
eodeavours. Date, otiose! That the ir„ licentie -
out attempts shoeld take cffect, they held
public meetings from time to time, and 0.
these assemblies they not 'vainly sought-
to mature their projects. The consequence
was, that they had nuw become much more Or"
ganized.; they Marched in large regular bodies .
about the country, haarieg ensigns and emblerna., •
offensive to the well•disposed and •orderly pat or
society. 'l' heir number tno was snfficient to edd
eery anatetially to the danger. IVas it to he sup"
posed that the persons resident in the different
toWII4 VVIIVIC those budivs paraded, should not feel -
some dresol for their properties and ciaietees3, era
be would pot it to the Al embers•of the House, If
they saw tlieir own propetties' in similar danger,
'Noaht they not naturaily'feel that they ought to
become the immediate objects- of pro:ection to
Government ? While addraising the Hattie net 'l3
this head, he could 'not but feel some 41U0S011 it)
a very delicate siarj,ct which might he expected
from him. Ott that subject generally. he shbold
decline giving ally aienion.—(Cheeting.).—He
thoto4lit there was not sufficient inform,tion ad' _
ductal as yet, to eo;hie stay one to form a jadga
mem upon it —(flear, hear )---fle wished, how."
ever, to,explain himself. lie desired Iry might be
tinOtrsrooit to say, that jedging from rite intoroas
titian he received, he saw uo icasoo whatevtr tot
taking the matter out of the usual confte-ot In'
vestheation, and certainly there were 00 tactics, "
yet at least, assigned for so removing it. 1 InsE -'
maxim_ of our law should never be forgotten'
which says, everyman ought to be frested es ail
innocent min until he is proved • to be guil!Y 4- •
and•if this maxim should be practised towessfs
any set of men in particular, it should be 10W.8019
Mitgistrates.—(lle,r, hear j—No man should stet
considered as guilty, until he shall be declared to'
'beso by a Jury. He could not hut steal to the
attention Of the !louse, the circumstance Ilrat
bills of indictment had been
preferred against the
Magirrates to whom lie alluded at Lancaster. ,
and they wet e i limes n out. When•he'rcflectetlol:,i
this circumstance, he owned he could not but teen
that time was not information seflicieot to war-
rant him in supposing; the Magistrates to b.;
goilty. Upon the whole, theteloae, it was bite
Lair, that when particular subj. era like tilts wet.,a;
made the objects of legal ietptitv, there shol;ir
be no inteif. settee from tiny other quarter. 1 t)..
his part, he felt it• to he his duty to abstain from
expressing any opinion loam the sourest, and
would now take his leave of it fur the present. s, e
could not but ibiolt it extraordieery that "in,
leaders of that obnoxious class of n:en, to 711,e
he alluded, should have beco so efficient in 1;..
wadi of mischief. Whet' he looked to the 10gee
nuity which they exercised, lie was not astonlsetn't
ad to find that they had. obteined vocourafr'ert)e- t
front the alliance Of 50 many of quite a thffel.na
..
description front themselyes. H did not in of
to impute wit ked doctrines to the latter class
iho
persons, but he es-as ebliecdeo confess tht" de,
distinction between the two cltisses
arieutly walked. lie coold not hot f''el t
,"0
there had heel) a leaning of one sh4e in "'4`l,eirs
gait, strength, and a leaning on the otT)er (0 t" -r •
t u"- ,
appearance. With respect tot he addition 0 ee-
-Jot
military force', he should say,•tbat it wits 0 "
~,,,;
tying thing to find, that when we were a! P I,j
with all foreign enemies, we should be cuo'lle'
teas not svc

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