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London, England, 1819-02-26 00:00:00

UNIVERSITY INTELLIGENCE.

CAMBRIDGE, . FRB. 25.—We sre gratified in
Ravine; to aunounce, that the valuable Oriental.
MSS. bequeathed to this University by the cele-
brated African Traveller Burckhardt, consistin;.;
of upwards of three hundred volumes, have safely
arrived, and are now deposited in the Public Li-
brary. .

Air. Francis L. Holyoake, of St. John's Col-
lege,was on Wednesday last admitted Bachelor
of Arts.
ScuoLnitsmps.—An election of Iwo
Scholars upon this foundation will take place out
Friday the 26th of March.

The Rev. William Smith, M. A. was last week
instituted to the consolidated Rectories of Brome
and Oakley, in Suffolk, on the presentation 011ie
Marquis Cornwallis,
dispensatiin has passed the Great Seal to
enable the Rev. Samuel Heyrick, M. A. Domes-
tic Chaplain to the Esrl of Lonsdale, to hold the
Rectory or Brampton by Diu ,ley, together with
the. Rectory of Carlton, both in Northamptonshire,
to which he is presented by Sir John Henry Pal-
mer, Bart.

PREFERM ENTS.—The Lord Chancellor has pre-
sented the Rev. Francis Coleman, M. A. to the
Rectory of Humber, in the-Diocese of Hereford.
The Rev. James Thomas Holloway, late Fellow
of Exeter College, Oxford, has been cullated to
the endowed Vicarage of Stantou•npon-Hilie
Heath, Salop.

PARLIA MENT.

' dency of a system of labour established in prisons,
thereby rendering it not only a means for there-
format ion of the individuals, but to contribute to-
wards- the- expence of supporting the prisons.---,
The Noble Marquis adverted to the • effects of
certain provincial establishments of the kind, par-
ticularly at Glasgow and Manchester ; and of
►which• he entered into some -details. Generally
speaking he agreed with what the Noble Secretary
of State had advanced.

NOUSE OF LORDS, FEBRUARY 25.

The Duke of NORTHUMBERLAND and Lord
Ilowattn of Effingham, took the oaths and their

A few Private -Bills were brought up from tke
,Communs, by Adinkral FRANK and others, -which
-wete severalty tead the first time.

The motion being then agreed to by the Houle;
Viscount 'Stow)tlyti proposed that the Com-
mittee' should consiOreof the following Lords
The Lord Chancellor,:the Lord President (the Earl of
Harrowb.y), the Marquis of Lansdowne,dhe.Earl of Maccles-
field, the Earl of Carnarvon,fhe Earl of Liverpool, the Earl
of Limeric, the Earl of Rosslyn, the Earl of Mulgrave, the
Eirl Whitworth, the Earl of Verulam, Lord Viscount Mel-
ville, Lord Viscount Sidinotith (added on the 'notion of the
Earl of Harrowby), Lord Viscount Gordon (Earl of Aber-
deen), Lord Viscount Granville, the Bishop of Chester, the
Bishop of Llandalf, Lord Holland, Lord Kenyon, and Lord
Fitigibbon•(Earl of Clare).
The Committee was appointed by the [louse,
as above, and the Lords' Committees were direct-
r..(l to go/unit:nee their investigation on Saturday
next, at two o'clock.
SLAVES IN THE VEST INDIES.

STATE OF PRISONS.

Viscount SurmouTti brought forward his pro-
mised Marion ilf) this subject. He first adverted
.to the various and extensive information which
their Lordships had before them on this import-
alit subject, presented either in consequence of
the commands of his Royal Highness the Prince
Re,:enr, or of .addresses from their Lordihips.—
No means
,were .left untried by his Royal High-
ness's Government to obtain the most full and
ainple information upon the subject. The She-
riffs' of 'the different Comities, the Clerks of the
Peace, the Mayors, and other Chief Magistrates
of the Cities and '!'owns throughout the United
'Kingdom,. had been desired to furnish the most
accurate accounts practicable of the different Jails,
Penitentiaries, Houses of Correction, and other
places of confinement, in their respective dis-
triets ; 'and, in 'consequence, copious remelts were
already received, with very few exceptions,
from the different parts of England and Wales ;
and from Scotland
.mtich: information had also
,beets received ; hut 'fuller information from that
and whey parts of the United Kingdom was ere
long expected. The extensive information al:
ready before them was of that sat ire as he trusted
would induce their Lordships to lose no time iul
referring it to the consideration of a Select Cont.-,
Among the` information presented by;
command of the Prince Regent, was a state-.
mew of the number of convictions; with the!
sentences and executions, in- the respective coun-
ties, regularly, since the year 1805. By this,
among other points, • they would see, that the
hOle amount of crime in the last year was less
than that of the year preceding ; and that, -pro
‘potlionahly, this was not so great in London
and Middlesex as in the other -counties. Much
stress, and more than he thought- well founded,.
was laid ripen': the consideration that the state of
'the Prisons was the principal occasion of 'the later,
increase of crime. 'The important improvements, •
which bad of late years taken place in the diffe-
rent Prisons were highly creditable to the Ma-,
gistrates nod OtEcers who had the charge of them.:
These benefit:jai changes were remarkably ex-'
tensive within the last two years. The increase,
of min:lie of late, the Noble Secretary 'thought,;
was attributable to a variety- or a combina-'.
tiSsn of untoward causes, as the diminution.
in the demands for labour, • the high prices
of provisions, the immense number of dis
charges from the navy and Rimy ;—ail these,
causes contributed to 'fill the jails and prisons
throughoer the kingdom ; and the internal state
of most of these was, he regretted to say, such '
as onavoidahly to lead eventually to the increase .
of crime. The system of appropriated punish-
- oleos was a consideration also which would merit
the attention of their Lordships; though, as
would clearly appear from the docoments, those
were admittistered with,much. less severity than
h!retofore. This would particularly appear from
the average of the last seven years. The system
of transportation to New South Wales was a part
of the subject which would require particular
consideration ; and it appeared to him worthy of
attention hether some particular place or spot
in that quarter may.not be fixed on where a sepa
rate estehlishment fray be formed for the More
atrocious and abandoned convicts. Another very
important consideration was, the system which
obtained' in_ the interior of our Prisons ; this,
.though greatly improved of late, was susceptible
of- much amelioration. A system of religious in-
struction was particularly described, and still
move do, a sistem for providing constant labour
for the- prisoners. A well-eegUlated system of
this kind would be productive, of the most benefis
cial effects, not only to the habits, but the morals
of the prisoners. This he thought a most._ im-
portant consideration-,a leading object, which
should be to endeavour to make the prisons in-
stiumenti 'of. reform as- well as punishment,'and
eventually giving a new turn to the character of
the. inmates, and affording to numbers the means of
ulterior livelihood. Brit until the prevalence or
the extent of crime was diminished, reform ire the
Flinn _discipline wotild be unavailing, if not itri
praCticable. In this general vie.w of the subject,
anti under the circumstances which now presented
themselves, he was certain their Lordships Would
see the necessity' of going into an inquiry into this
important subject, and of which the important in-,
formationnow before them would form the,basis:
He would, therefore move—

Lord IJOLLAND gate notice.of his intention to
move, on this day se'uuight, for the production of
certain papers and acts of tl:e Colonial-Legisla-
tures, in the West Indies, adopted inconsequence
of the unanimous Address of that House. But
he added, as he shonl,l have some ob3ervations to
make on the subject, it world, perhaps, depend, as
to she day, on the circumstance of the Noble Earl
at The heal of the- Colonial Department attending
in.his place.

Hilt tee.

That a Committee be appointed to take into considera-
tion the ddrercp,t,Papers presented be command of his Royal
Highness the Prince Regent, on the 18th and the tad days of
February instant, irlatire to the state of the Jaiis and other
Places, of coutioement, in England and Wales, &c. and the
several other matters relating thereto, already before their
lairdshjps, and to report on the same to the House."

The Marquis of LANSDOWNE rose and express-
ed his coincidence with the greater part of what
fell front,the Noble Secret.a;y of State. lie was
not one of those, he observed, who thought the
increase of crime of late years principally attri-
butable to the ill state of the interior of our
The causes of this lay deeper, and they
were also more extensive in their nature. The
vvl(o.le, system of the Criminal Law required a
tborough revision. This, as referrable to the
Statutes,• consisted of no fewer than 7.50 Acts of
,Parliament. He thought the attention of. the
Committee.should be-mote concentrated, and not
sulfered,td diverge to collateral parts, of the sub-
ject, however • important. Their principal ob-
ject should be an inquiry as to the state of
rue prisoners before and after conviction ;.
,reforTh in the interior of the prisons, and
also the means of establishing a more equal
.and impartial execution; of our criminal laws.—
..,Improvyments may, be suggested as to the mode

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

of superintending, by the civil jurisdiction of the
cuuntry, the execution of the rules necessary for
tile p t pose of regulating prisons, us laid down in-
A,ts of Pailinnient. He particularly coincided
%kb the Noble Secretary, in the. beneficial ten-

A new Writ was ordered for the Borough of
inverkeithini, in the room of John Camphell,
,Esq. who was •reported not to have been duly
elected.

protectiOn against the importation of Foreign Corn.—Laid on
the table.
Genemal WALPOLE presented a similar Petition from cer-
tain Occupiers of Land in the County of Norfolk.—Laid on
the table.
. Mr. COKE observed, that he held in his hand a, petition
of a similar nature from certain persons in the county of
Norfolk, praying that it might he referred to a Committee of
that Hornet() inquire into the statements which it contained.
He could not support•the prayer of the petition, as he con-
ceived that the peesent price of corn afforded a full reniu-
neeation to the grower. Apiculture was certainly labouring
ender considerable difficulties, 'the principal of which lie be-
lieved to he the Horse Tax, the repeal or modification of
which appeared to bins highly desirable The improvements
made by the use of machinery and drill husbandry had, ac-
cording to his experience, been uniformly attended with in•
'creased ens eloement for the poor.
.Mr. 'WESTEKN had several Petitions of the same nature
to present, Irons persons who described themselves as Occu-
piers of Lund, slid who had applied their whole capital to
those pursuits. He knew that they suffered severely, and
that in consequence many hands were out of employ in the
county of Essex.
Lord ItANCLIFFE was understood to he decidedly hostile
to snaking any alteration in the Corn Laws.
Mr. LYTTLETON agreed with the Hon. Member who had
presented the Petition, that the Agricultural Horse Tax
shoe's' be taken off, or considerably modified. It had been re-
presented tee him by a body of the Yeomanry of the. Country.
that the Tax pressed' very hard upon them and he expected
soon to have a Petition to submit to the House fo►~ relief on
that subject. He did not exactly know in what shape that relief
could be given. but it might perhaps be allowed to farmers to
employ a certain number of horses free, if they were not kept
during the whole year. With respect to the Petitions pre-
sented
this evening, he trusted the klouse and time Country
would take them as proofs of how bad it was to enter into a
vicious system. Thee farmers complained that the commer-
cial interests were protected, while they were not. But if all
the taxes were removed which stood in the way of a fair trade,
and which had been imposed solely for the benefit of aerie
cnlturists, the argument would he at an end. It was not his
opinion that the prayer of the Petition should be granted, or
even notch discussed ; but, lie wished that we should break
dowel by degrees that systeM of 'protecting duties, which he
was coorinced was productive of much evil.
The Petition was then read, and laid upon the table. COTTON MANUFACTORIES. Mr DUNDAS presentee' two Petitions to the same effect,
The Order for somnioning their Lordships, re- from Occupiers of land in"the Counties of Berks and of Flint.'
lative to Lord Kenyon's intended motion on this t motto lie did not agree with the prayer of those Petitions,
subject, being ;rads--
'rile different petitions presented from several
Intint7factiiring towns, Imrliel 1 I a t I y in the coml..' couldau'.'eett'(. :j:
he
iilnebeoitntwhgti°:r.u4lo4ldltit'tet leiCt:wl r!Y:lhiasseclifill°tmlalelyttifttc.(oh:euvpaprrl presenta
enias if
7ae• Inuttheyi constitutional
iNifoundtti:ivita7s)::::4-mi ‘trnptaiolasireit'ilt:
ed• It must alto tie recollected, that the employment of the
ties of Lancaster arid Chester, against the present poor depended in a great measure on the prosperity of far-
mode of•employiog children in . these manufacto- mere, who, by an increase of wages, could alone prevent them
ries, an from coming upon the parish.—Laid on the table,
d already before the Housc, were, on the'
Mr. FANE presented similar petitions' from Occupiers of
mot* of Lord Kenyon, trail short. .
Land near Oxford and 'Henley noun Thames.—Laid on 'the
nthepree;eas;ttiyng of as sailma_ii)l,a r Petitionstated
that froili,n Owac-s
. Alter this w.is -gone through, and a few ob- table.
servations interchanged between the Lord bit.Clop-
,c,uoiti i.e 'sure
usi iroeEf NLNfa nEta.ll:eini
cello,. and Lord Holland, relative to a point in
expediency of the 'last Corn Bill, and
question of form, touching one of the petitions, should certainly not cosisent to any new experiment.' The
from Occupiers of Land in the
petitionpet itiamis:sast,i}ati till
eosua. tmhee
effect,tble Lord Ks Nv ma rose, and addiessed the House
Counties of el i•gomery,Denlegh,Essex Cambrid e West-
were then presented by
on the general subject at some length. He ex-
,.....M.
wS iie(tir• (eAll er.
read and
7n,dati laidi
Petition
eitr.
tS7oethhrei gli,
table.and
!satiated on the cruelty and injustice of compel-.
Inziorr,r.eßlA•laysint,clg.,,,.lH,Fiti.te.fiftdet,sittaroirinidis,M
hog such an imwetrse number of children, of both
Me. •}4. SUMNER then presented
sexes, and persons-of very tender years, to labour
through such a large portion of twenty-four Traders of time County of Surrey, praying for an equalization
of the Duty upon Coals.—Laid on the table. ufariattiohne
hours, in those close and crowded manufactories,
taite the fo
meritsl -
.
aaahe great injury of their health, and frequent
ilCiiyoTnni a°l.l:lll:itrttoedtrtyli
sacs ifice of their lives ; and -this result, notwith-
standitig what was alleged to the contrary, was,
Sir J. Staunton, Bart. Sir C. Mordannt, Bart. Cuthbert
from the best :itiformation he could obtain on the
subject, on which. his innuirieS were extensive ' Ellison, Esq. P. Price, Esq. WeGritlith, Esq. Lord Viscount
of
lowing Thei hat cAtl, ecrnctictbioeofrns
the:
haiILIMERICK
bLimerickeen chosenEE lLecE
and sedulous, caused by the 'excessive heat :rivuerYnnemuto.Stihre'rEarnlatiftig, Bart. J. Walker, Esq. R. H.
• w hicb pt eVa i led. in
.these 'crowded.manalietories, berly, Gurney,
W. Astell, Is?sq.En's.lCma'im•Ce;tl,iaElmsqe.r,amil4d:stqi.le'llt.il‘glh't-
In which the thetmometer varied from 76 to
85, Honthlrable J. Barry.
With respect to the idea of the Noble and Learn- The.
c aped over, and the defaulters ordered toatt names of the defaulters on last Friday's ballot were
'th d led Lord, that the iirinciples
.4 the common law Hoenuse at stated days. - en- Lie
were applicable to the cases in question (at MR. GRADY.
Sir ROBE.
R.T
bad WILSON stated that he held a Ps;tition from
least as was understood), he could not agree,
the person ho been committed last night to Neegate for
as he thought those_principles, front the niretitt-i• w a
breach of the privileges of th ie
House. 'I his person had ap-
Stances
..and had in some measure
of the casr, or rather of the individuals plied to him to preseut his Pytition
coneeened,• would be found inapplicable, at leasto died weeks. It
he. had in l • • • t'' •
' bon a letter which his possessso
established his claim upon him, by introducing into his peti-
in practice. He feared they would be found so,
.•-
and lie must contend that the unfortunate persons noyrable Member for Limericki to MI r.fGerly,
eaxiiiisits,edhisi:ni was
Was a letter written on the ad of November last by the Ho-
ane
d question could not be- adeplately protected ' "Tvipor
(fidtlisestetdHtnoisihootinrathil'eat
Mnco.mibnestt!, even feeling
he had re-
e
without an express Legislative interference iri their
behalf. Last Session, lie observed, a Bill on the ; sent him.' The letter was expressive of all those fine feelings
ailleil:C'd the Ctililln
to the Hon.
subject hail gone to its second stage, and the enication which Mr. Grady denied baring
which he enderstood and belieyed were naturalt .
of
time
reply
but somewhat at variance with the one
ground oil which its tardier. progress was oppos-
ed, was, that there-was not sufficient evidence on' that he had sent to Mr. Grady. The letter. wets now sub-
theuld have it in his power to
Iwileillc'll: "that Honourable Member had stated the other day
subjectfor the due intormation of the House;
it'. wMaesmhbiesro'amv-on or not. With .re sped to.
and afterwards, the evidence which an opportu- joined, and theHoi
i the ascertainleti
ti o
a whether,
nit), was afforded of bearing, was only on the one terday, to the narrative of the Petitioner himself. He stated
Newgate for a breach of privilege,
he should confine himself, as he had done yes-
siilee On these grounds, he begged leave to move— that he had been sent to
Insetted there was no sufficientproofs
of which be humbly " That a Committee be appointed to inquire intathe situa-
tido of Children .employed in Colton 4lanufactories, and to e nor •and
haring written had neither postmark envelope, did
report the to the I-I;use." before the. House. yTise letter which he was charged with '
The LORD CHANCELLOR, in -ex lanation of his not once contain the name of the Hon. Member to Whom it
p had
ueotal:de
been taken to have been directed. That letter he was 1
former opinion, said, that dill lie intended to af- supposed to have sent about the-griddle
received
- middle ef Oeteher„ and
him was, that, if die evils -existedlo such an ex- outn thse 1
et
jeutil:e
ro f
dNa
toevd Nas
e mb,r
-e he i
ember 2, n,i
lich l one
onefr from
tent as was represented, the persons who in-
conce.ive to be an answer to so' Offensive a coromunica-
flicted them were-punishable at Common Law.— r tion as that which he was accused of haring made.' That
He eves by no means unaware of the difficulty,
letter was dated Adair, Nov. 2, 1818, and was-to the follow-
mg effect :—. I stand so perfectly .clear of the charges nin-
expece, antitrouble of appealing to the law.— tended to be brought against me, that. I shall cheerfally
It a general regulation, founded on the Common commit myself to time judgment of the House of Commons.
in; and f.l knew.
Law, was introduced, it might be attended With Youhelr siiiy
for
rant
alt
hhiaav: g
wg,mlssegi srrhueirnforrata I offence;
t I am sorry to
when I did so, I should have great mplenaYsnujrien pairing my
advantage ; but he doubted the propriety of li-
miting it to one- branch of manufacture alone,
cft,.,:o..sr...;:lytnu.ttohtlassto,
dide
yi
et
01 Some
NI long,ni
toihinot
odubatbenergdeei
gnnarnetvgtielresryo7c
oat rni lettersrnctdi
se
itnmot
n hatenfa!ene fl
in
rnepi
.taei sanslireal dyeyl
ibetweencouldfoe n.atniilom
det
while there were others in which children were
employed for as great a lengths of time, and as
much to the injury of their health.
zfiraitiiineg liiindiself, : your's truly."—Mr. Grady stet
eve of being parted " The writer then concluded, by sub.-
; d
did ot other fieend
recollectis: lettersreeei ed besides
The Earl of •liossz.vat spoke at some length
against the motion. With the Noble and Learn- the fOrepaiingr,eca'enir i
f
ito
e
ed Lord he was decidedly of opiuion, that if legis- offensive nature which 'the Honourable Member had last
lative interference was deemed nccessaty, -there night mentioned. 'To all 'these statements the-Petitioner
1,13 ready to add the sanctity of an oath, antl thus to
- expose himself to a prosecution fur perjury, if they turned
should be a general law on the subject ; but be
.thought there was neither wisilo-m, justice, or po- out to be false. He submitted. also that if he were not
licy to interfere-in the way proposed by the Noble allowed
to assist his son 'in "the approaching Inquiry, the
Lord, or to confine their anxiety and protection public interest aright suffer. Descending then 'to secondary
considerations, he urged that he was labouring under a se-
to this maned:wore alone, and for which, lie must vere illness. He also submitted to the House, that he might
contend, time were no adequate grounds laid. have retired before an order had been made out for his cons-
-'l-he Bishop of CllesTett forcibly supported the mittal ; but he had patiently awaited its decision, and trust-
ed for relief to. its generosity and justice. The Hun. Mew-
argoments advanced by the Noble Mover. her then moved that the petitions be brought up.
Earl GaosveNott-opposed the motion in a speech Mr. W. QUIN had no hesitation in avowing the letter
of some length. which had been read as hjs own, and he did not think silly
The Earl of LIVERPOOL spoke in favour of it. breast in the House would consisler that it contained any sen-
timent for which he need to blush.—(Hear, hear, hear !)
The Earl of LAUDERDALE moved, as an Amend- He owned that he had not considered Mr. Grady to be serious
merit, that the investigation shou'd be extended whets he had`first intimated the charge ow which he would
to the woollen, silk, lace, and other manufaeto- call fora Parliamentary
lin ee.
row tie
id
.taoeoss titan t liatliebad
ries ; to the potteries, coalmines, and others ; answereddese; mved, but. tdhe did ns
ot
nOteNtVf wish that :at timel act of time hither snii ti(e'eetYti
and ,to the state of the laws now in existence re- be visited on the son, and he felt that Mr. Grady
specting them. bad been kind to himin early life, which he was
still desirous not to forget. After writing the let-
ether a Speech from Lora HOLLAND in favour ter which had been read, be had received another
of die original motion, the House divided on the of a different nature. It was then that he had written that
Amendment, which was negatived, the numbers which lie had read yesterday, add with which' he had closed
being--_correspondence.
the As to the prayer why! the • Petition
pnt forth for indulgence, there was no one Memher in time
Contents 6 House who prayed more fervently for indulgence to Mr.
Not-Contents
,
Majority - The Petition was then read, and on Sir R. WILSON'S nio-
.
The original motion was carried without a di- tion, ordered to lie on the table, and to be printed. ,
vision, and the House adjourned at Half-past - Mr. HUTCHINSON, after paying a warm tribute of praise
Nine. . to the conduct of the Hon. Member fur Limerick, which had
been so creditable to gins both yesterday and this night; ex-
pressed his intention of moving, to-morrow, that Mr. Grady
be discharged from Newgate.
Mr. WILBRAHAM BOOTLE considered the first part of
ML Grady's Petition as. arraigning time sentence of the House,
whicleit represen:ed as having been passed without sufficient
evidence. He called Upon the Clerk to read again that part
' of tine Petition, which having been done, the Hon. Member
declared that it was too much to proposo on Friday to dis-
charge a man who had been committed for a breach of pri-
vilege on Wednesday, and who, on Thursday, was guilty of
libelling,the House. He should therefore to-morrow oppose

the motion of the Hon. Member for the dischale °
Grady. f his
Sir G. HILL appeared at the with a Message •IT, had
Royal Highness the Prince Regent, announcing that :usat
ordered certain Papers to be laid before the House, Pr'
to its Addresses. sdol
Sir WDe CRESPIGNY ave notice, that on Wed° At,
he. should more for certain Returns respecting the
seised Taxes, and the Arreku;s of the Property Tax.

. •
DRGHEDA LE.
On Sir HENRY PAO E
RNELL's motion,CTION the order fart e
I,litc4'
into consideration the Petition respecting the Drogheda ortier
tion on the 22d of March was discharged, and a no!',atiof
made, fixing the 27th of April as the day for investl
the subject.

L DEBT.mhe
Mr. FITAM, from the NATIONA
office of the Comiqgiane f° o for
reduction of the National Debt, presented vatioos accon
which were laid on the table, and ordered to be printed'
THE WINDSOIt ESTABLISHMENT. tbti
Lord CASTLEREAGH moved the Order of ;e4l
Day for receiving the Report of the Cotnnlit
on the %Viudsor Establishment. ;,it
The Order of the Day having been eft"
Lordship moved that the Report be now rep
which was also agreed to. Boa'
' The Report wis then brought op by:VI:. --if, pae
DEN, and the different Resolutions rea° 31„ites
to the vote. The two first were agreed to ‘•eo4
out any observation, but on the third being a,i6t
for granting 10,0001. a•year out of the Civil m
to the Duke of York, as Custos Persona, that'
Mr. CU EWES rose.—He had been in llorf ee,
the House would have received another disoltho
from a certain quarter, more comprehensive,•real
the last, and which would have
satisfaction both to Parliament and to the e„
try. It vas with deep regret lie had beet- hi;
formed, in common with the House, in oh.
Royal Highness found more difficnitY,
given 10"4000,
ing the proposed allowance out of [Belie
Purse, than from the people at large. t, 105
precated the discussion of such a IDP7( onif
night, hut when it was pressed upon bini';,...rale
remained to desert a sacred duty, or 10 ("`")„frlf
his feelings. He was convinced that no ees
which would trench upon the comforts ot
,`l'esty would find a single supporter in the 7(
j „ai•
but fortunately the present question st°°'l,,es%
nletely apart from such consideratioes• 004
impos:.ible to conceive that any 1
sum of ni of
could increase the care and tender at were
the Custos towards his Royal Parent• ii"ste flee'
not to be purchased, and would .bt ti(es-r
tionately bietowed without any relungl,l9o
He (Mr. C.) was executing a duty painiu,„,proll
feelings, but it was necessary for him to 471,- woo
the situation of the Royal Duke, as lie 11°%Sine.
with what it was intended to make „ bp".lCo te`
his Royal Highness's return to the office ",,ity hack
mander-in-Chief, his services in that ear large.
certainly been beneficial to the countrY a'atill it
But however useful that office might be', iitional
was a new one, and imposed .a heavy e"lo,evere
hurdler) upon the country. It was °nes ho
he Net
the abolition of which lie should now be, hints it
to propose. But when be considere"ooool.
yielded to his Royal [highness a revenue (wore"'
per annum, besides perquisites to a great el:n;,tioa6
that his other emoluments from various s'":id that
amounted to upwards of 10,0001. a-Year, 8-0, al°
il:eeatr•elcye.civqeullintoaddition 20,0001.
that he laboured ender any country,
or that it making,
shn
60,0001,,yearly fr° vc-oe
Iris
,~ceive
espeOrrl ll*l Wet
hei c_oreltrly..,
of
t tfici
i‘u../ coo I
try had a fair right to eYxpecatdtibi tftot no sOcb
tnentation should be made. Now with re-rl
to the situation of Custos, what expel-ice wnhed
)
knew of no other than that of
entail upon his Royal Highness ? 1-Ie 011% -.-
from London to Windsor, and back
posing it to amount to 5001. or evert 10001. eui
year, which was certainly the outside, he adult
consider it an offence, to, propose a retntwer;,,laie
to his Royal Highness for so trifling an
[tire. But other charges had been mention%ted
Posting twice a sZeiet".
%hat were they ) Something had been but
about fees,• and objects of generosity; 11'3;e--
those were to be paid out of, a different Inns tic
There was no expence, be must contend, t.°10.11
incurred by his Royal 'Highness but the 6,-Iftir
posting account which lie had mentioned,
which his Royal Highness would not cer'to- the
require that au addition should be made -„:ho
btirthens of the country. There was n01.00,,e4
did not wish that economy should be intr"" ut
into every branch where it Was practicable' tee
when the Noble Lord opposite had said that
rant
House was disposed to hear hard on ail
se
proposed for the Royal Family, he ought to
bast
recollected with what feeling the House lod loa
year measured those grants, which might be e„to
red niggardly,dant which bad been reduced in
0..
der not to diminish, but to preserve in their
tegrity, the love and veneration of the Pe°,l„
fOr the family of their SoVereign. It was 1,11).-„;
sible not to confess that those reiterated alPitcieS
tions for money had giveir general offence tn
one
Country, and he was determined not to vote
shilling of remuneration for the Custos, fully tiO
suaded that the duties of that office woulda.„,"-rel
tenderly and as effectively performed by bic
Highness 'n ithout, as, with the grant nrctios.
He should therefore take the sense of the
on the present resolution. 1)10
Mr. ROBINSON concurred with the Honotn:4
Gentleman in one point, lie would agree I° --Le
the services of his Royal Highness as CommUn".4.o
in-Chief out of sight, but then he would recite
the salary which he received for their perfolWca
to be also left out of the question. No Pro
could be more willing -to make a sacrifice I()%ia
benefit of the public than the Duke of York ;
the proof of this was, that he was now discbetto;
fug the duties .of the office of Custos %Ohl%
knowing whether Parliament would make sit,
allowance for the heavy expences incident t°
—(Hear, hear !)—The Right Hon. Gentle:id
talked of this discessien having been obtr"*
upon the House, and alluded to the diseto-0,
which had taken place on the grants last yet ,r
posed for the Royal Family. But he bi.g,g'eu,..-tes
House to recollect, that the objection to tbe,ll,oC
proposed last'Session was to the amount, fnit, -the
to the principle; whereas the objectio'ta t" bat
vote now in question was not to the ornooot, db.
to the principle.—(Hear, hear !)—This was s-ed
stantial distinction between the vote pu°11"n01
now
_and those which had been biought t°l"`v.„-as
last Session. On the whole question, lie
convinced that the House would feel that the "'lto
now proposed was only such as was necessal