The Sun.
London, England, 1817-06-10 00:00:00

LORD WHITWORTH AND MR. VEAL.

.the following extract from The Correspondent,,
a loyal Dublin Newspaper, of, the Gth instant,;
will slim how highly these distinguished Charac-
ters are estimated in a part of, the Empire where'
their services are particularly directed and fully
understood :--
"The return of Mr. PEEr, for the University of Oxfosd,lif
the secession of the late tipealier, Mr. ABBOTT, it a circum-
stance of which scarcely any doubt is entertained ; and it is
said, that this mark of his talents and popularity will he fol-
lowed by his admission into the Cabinet. This is exactly the
road, so far as bearing a share in the private and confidential
Councils of his Sovereign, that prediction Would have point-.
,ed out for bre. the reward that must he bestowed
an' gown() and splendid abilities, high public spirit, fear-
less firmness. Honours and advancement cannot crowd too
fast on this promising
,Statosnran? whom, or we are greatly
mistaken, the country will one day see leading thapublic
affairs, arid leading them prosperously, for,the nation's re 7
nowti and welfare. Mr. PEce& relinquishment of office
iu Ireland is now decided on. It will be concurrent with,
or, perhaps, antecedent to, the change of Lord WHlT-
worm. Both are events that wilt be deeply regretted by
the Irish Public—or, rather, by that portion of it, which
can take a rational and unprejudiced- view of the real in-
terests of Ireland. A purer, Or a more Wise and enlightened •
administration Of our' affairs, never dignified any Government
placed over this country, than that of Lord WHITWORTII-;-
raid to his Excellency. arid- to Mr. PEEr.,, such an expression
of the pirtdit feeling ought. and Will he *ntaae,
before' their
departure,os will evince•how ,fully sensible tiro country is of
the wisdom and moderation which haveidistinguished all their
public nieasur..s in 'lreland, :hid of the inod whieh it
Sillied from them. Lord Wirrrwouves rule over this .:niuttry
if we hare common gratitude, be vary long remembered
--acrd the public services of Mr. rfet,eill chtjrit, ju the me-
mory of-everj. wan who' loves hirreortutry, it record quill,
docsadc.'' *

But, I will own, it is not 03. that ground alone
that-I thusintreat the favour of the republication
oft a svech of Mr. CAN;lyio's, or that I rely on
your readiness to grata the fd.v94r. The bature
and temper of the recent correspondence between
Mr. CANNING' anil the Pitt Club Committee,—;-
your profession of impartiality :between the
parties to that Correspondence—your poblica-,
t ion of Mr, PaT's Speech in obvious reference to
that discussion,-.-and your subsequent publication
on the 4th inst. of the Letter of anonyMous
virtiian in that discussion,'ln avowed hostility to
Mr. CANNING :---these form at once the motives
of my request, and the grounds of my confidence
that you will not decline to comply with it.
The Speech is to be found in a collection of
Mr. CANNING'S Addresses to the Electors of
Liverpool, published immediately aftet the last
General Election.

ME. CANNING'S SPEECH ON • THE CATHOLIC
• QUESTION,
DBLIVP.RED AT'LIVERPOOL, OCT. 13-, 1812.

—" But, Gentlemen, while, on this question
of Parliament try Reform, 1 am accused by some
of being too tardy in hazarding innovations, I
have found that,,by others, 1 atu,stppposed to me-
ditate innovations which are still more fortni-

(bible; both in
.Chureh and State ; that 1 have
been represented as, not attached to the religion
of my country, as prepared to Subvert the tostab•
lishment, and to substitute Papery ltd its room.
Gentlemen; such accusations ate. so extravagant,
that on almost
,any other subject, arid at any other
period, they would be absolutely IndicrouS, and to
be.met only„ with silent scorn. But, Gentlemen,
my views of what is commonly called the Catho-
lic Question (for it is to that question, ae you
may ariuppose, that '4
allude), have been so
tinctly expressed on many recent occaiions in 04
last ession of Parliament;'that X. that

thou& they could not have been misuntler-
stood (I). I have. alsvnyS treated• tilia(Question
not bust in a political point of view,
I holril coos►tfered it as, a question of
political i*x-
pediency, and in every thing, that I bave agreed
to; and every thing that I have proposed riispect-
ing it, (2) I have always, with scrupulous care
►►nd anxiety, prqpqsed .to plant and feuee.from
even
,the most, yetnote apprehension of thinii4,
that happy Constitution in Church and S.tate,
ander which we have the good fortune io flou-
rish ; and one of the great blessings of which is,
in my opinion, that being secure andirmly seated
itself in the hahits•aud affections of the people; it
enables us .to be liberal, without danger, to all
who are 'within the reach of its influence, cud to
dispense its blessings to others without hazaraing
them ourselves.
"Gentlemen, in this view, and tuithsuch Rua-

iificatipnsi k is that considering (3) the concessions
,alrea4 siyide to the Catholics (wisely or not it. is
too .late to inquire), in the course, of the present
reign, as' haring placed that numerous class of
his Majesty's subjects,
,particularlyin treland, in
a state very.tlifferent front that in which they
stood when the rode enacted against, them was in

full operation; as having advanced them in wealth,
power, and intelligence; as having taught them
to look upon themselves as atimissihle to the civil
franchises, of, the state, in which they have been.
permitted to acquire property, and encouraged to
pursue indus;riotis anti useful occupations it is,.
sty.„,i pis view, And with ihe,qmalification4 which
I have described,
_that, I entertain and have acted
upon the NO*, which I honestly avow,
,-chat
(4) the period of religious danger being, as I think
it ip, passed, by, the state of this country, the state
of Europe, anal of the. world, point Out,the,poitti.
cal expediency of repealing those . civil disabilities
which are the remnant of a code whose priut:4ple
has been „already v./pealed. 15) 1 certaiulysthink
that this may. be done without dangerk I think
that,thc circumstances of the times-recommend it.
But though these are my opinions upon that
Question,. I )Chow, well that many respectable,
pious, and worthy persons, differ from me. And
there is no opinion that I hold more strongly than
this, that (6) to he settled happily this, great
Question must he settled yeaceubly, and with the
fall concurrence and good will of all classes of the
Protestant Community. lam sanguine eacinih`to
believe that upon fall, deliberate, and temperate
cliscussion, such a concurrence may he obtained.
I am sangaincenough.to think that I see my way
(7) to such arrangements- e 3 might allay the
discrintent of one party, and quiet the scruples of
the other. To give the one partylt triumph over
the other has never entet:ed ~into -soy coutenipla-

" Thiti is pot the Rhico nor the tittle to toter into

the very delictstfi:4o d difficult rlisenslsioit of titelir.
• ratfgetnents w.htitit ibight-be itecessaty fdr >l< final
;.ind amicable aditistinent. ,Hut when 4 have said
that t think it desirahte, at4d.that Ltisink.•it pos.
sible-to effect such. an-a'rrangetnent, of ctifut
de-
sirableness,•and even of that•pnssibility, ;the•ni,i.
titre ctinviction' and assent of theTrotestatit •cp'ru-
uttinityaform,-in my view, one esiential part;
• " Gtotiemen, these opiniolis are•'not nov'ori-
nions ohnine, though 1 hear also that'l 4111+:-
eased of having recently adopted 'then): .t.icutle.
men, that jecusation is 'fhlse.'4THl!iia.orminia
INHERITED,' )lOM'' ME: PITT: lltht he
lived, I have no.doubt'heivould'how have been.tu*ng
upon them. 'I say ?tow, because front" Mr. Pal L
aiso; inherited (7) the titterniinition never tip.
self to Stir, and to iesist tiny atteurpt An the .part
of others to stir, the Calholie•atestion:during thu
11(e-t ime—th e vingrei n—of, aiu bvlbrett and ye-
iterated 'Sovereign. While' he lived to'the eihis
and duties of his ttalion; 1 did resist all attetupts
to force that Question inv.) dieedusion, squite as
fran4tly as.if:•l', myself thought differentbf -uiturA

After a-rcip of faylears, and such a reifr.o.
•so fraught With, advantekgos 'Old blessings to this
Nation, we'ossed, 'acrd •-none. owed more d'etiply
than the 'Catinilics Aliematives; thtrittmoqlderer-
twee to the feeLngs, to the seruplts of a Stme•
reignibe,rather taF aliThis People' -If the 4'Ll-
thollet lookedlo t.ctovertheir:frntiChis'es at a tu.
.cure time, it blOteeetri hem to look forward, not
as a prodigal atuhiiinntural heir,-to the decensdof
tHation whose estate•lte is to inherit, hut with
'that trembliog 'anxiety; than pious apprehension
with which .tftlu'tiftll,. arm! -affectionate son hangs
over the sick conch 'of a beloved parent, depreeat-
ing the inheritence which- that parent's• deat4i is
-to transfer to hittf,-andprayitig for the rbtractibn
even of his decay.
(8) " In this spirit, and with these feelings,' I
certainly had resisted hitherto even the diettiiioo
of- the quesrion, which this year I haVe st.ell no
obstacle to discussing fully', deliberately, and wilt
a view CO' the settlement of it for ever. '

" Gentlemen,. I ani therefore falsely fICCIIRCII
either of aiming at changes in the Constitution,
or of 'having changed my opidions upon this im-
portant subject. lam persuaded, it is my deli-
berate and settkd, and uninfluenced judgment and
conviction, that this—queStion•may be' so settled
as (9) not to haiord, but, to confirm' and streneken
the Constitution 'both in Church and State.: Pr-:ts
IN THAT- VIEW THAT ENTARTAINED 414 D•
SUPPORTIM IT." •

. With- t(ris summary of IVlT,...CANtlino's political
'Creed bn the Catholic gttles*tinn,.eggipttre the fot.
lowing passages extracted Crouwur own publican
tion, on the 3d inst. of qfThech of Ikkrp. VITT:
(M). 1) " ullfltil pettltire, til4t.tba
appliCatioll TRW Wtrinnn i)O5 'Qot 144:111
advanced.:ai. a chum 74'righti butexpedlency:.
That is•the grounstA4bolookoiticti 1 feel the tnetsure
ptight,alQne w, bellistilssett. • •
1 certainly' was of ppinion,
*that ,Ullll4 111)1(0 tiarliament tbose,priyileges
Wig Lt be: Yfiklitsti proper'2gUilds and' cull-
ilitious, mat.a.uattp,t-ti titodueetiny;ttatter to am
Cblitch, '!..11,! Pgirot,tistiiiit Co Kai,/ it
tion, 'Algq.l-slaaTol,l4. pAY p 11, :ralsy.• pi;
ttib't4; tlrinli, 4f, froin other tircunt-
.stattresp there was tioobjettion to complying vOillt
the tierrgiuftti,of ,the,Catholictt,'•.and• it by a with
they couitlATigak.rieti into enact, I own I aec
• hone of' those ..which , have been urged icy
E ()MC Gcnflenton. *titir do I think. that ititiwintra-
ttsictioit of a•certitiiktifoporlitni try Catlndies;iii
Parlysmeiktiovitild in hkcJy to beprti.
ductive of uny.initueode ay, effect detrimenta Or
injurious to ?he welkin:n.4 aim :tsite,•or•the.satety
and security pf the Cons,tiiiieifili. • If-theiegulirili
.and,contlitions. to ‘vivieli,l hadheen
.appiied, and. wtachrtmimiti, my Wishes "MVO .bctiti
accomplished, it would have hettanytulalleavingr
to have applied, 1 Ji,tnilrbelieve itg thniger•watild
have existed, and no itijory,could have , been Itp•
=prehetulegi...
{No. 3) .si .1 felt satisfaction' in the :repeal of
I,those laws against the Catholics which ;have been
atnilished atid;-- from' lie • abolition' :.of •-whieli .1
ccrtainlyfrain not otie who idlers thattLatiger,to tare:
country with -which SOME Gentierncoiseent,
so deeply impressed. •, • • .
No. '5.) ." The whohrof the plan whieli•l had
formed,.the essence of the system wilieli.rt
meant to have prnposed,-wws ii tileitStatt'Of ptf4eo,
Of union, of coiteiliation: • • -

(N0..6) '' L mean with that general conetirrenee
which would have enabled us to gpitify.
of one tarty, withoutqawskeiting the. fetirg, Or ex-
cit Inv thelealottsy, of cirri other. .
(No ..7) ‘Visafft cireuinstances Were to which
I all titlei- as.. having at that linteTreersaied ole Olit
callboy, tlie attention of Parliament` to this snhicrip,
in the manner and with the :prospect Whil;n4
wished, it is not.itaiv-vrmucessary for .rue-to
All tlio.extlanations which I thought it tnY chit*
to give, I gave at that tit:lt—swore I do not feel
ill self nci*.ealletl upOit(6) gi ve,-and nothingirhall
induce me to enter into furthee details upon this sni.
jot. 1 , therefore, now' erintent myself with
butting,' that the.- eirrtiniscatires-tvhich; made ite
feel that it was 'heti linprolier to bring forwartt
this questioni and •witich'led- to thew resignation of
the then .Idniinistrettion, h'a'
ve matte so tieep, sc> laSt•
lug all impression-upon' that,'so long .as
these eireuinstaneetcontinue toapertfie, 1 shell tett
it a duty imposed upon me riot only not• to brig
forward, but tioP'in anyonanuer .to be a party.'
bringing fertaard'orin,ogiltiting this' question-. •
. (No: 8) "-These were the tellers' views.and
tentkirts 1 -entertained: And if, +Bir, It hint beets,
possible to have- fonmi that general tot,cori.t.„ce
iohiow -anxiouag desired ;'it` I could have car-
ried, thew iuto, effect is ties manner lave statttl.

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•
if peltons, of le art sb hty ayott e%iftrittet-.11,11n
, 'thyself would have digesttd 'thera, • am still id-
. awed to think, that, pinriteatt of being attentlid
‘vitli thole datigyrunatonsfitliences whieli some
Gentlemen iftlit.eitenti, they. would have afforded •
increased scc tit itx to the.Ghtirch, and have been
favourable to-ti e'..srelftteciif the State, to the sta-
bility of the totfet.l,lTikitin; and to the general
strength and inter.e4 Qf div. Empire."
• •
l'iZow, Sir,. let i 5444,11 it is possihle to eon-.
(tire a more teftektiqcotrAtie* ut sentlnent tin
this important questOta.,*-14.rt' is her* ettliihiked iu
the respective tleclaratio4o Wil(triC4NP4o.o(l
Mt, litycr ? If it it silklecifkist-, ht..the
which I have been Tatting ~te.,::Wijtii,lii..erkit.,l4tes,,s.,
. Mr. PITT oppasetil the ilkciis,iiou at the Catholic
Question, 1 answer, " So„ under the %Aare:Cll.-
conistanecs, did Mr, CAett,,ter, :" and a reit:Pitili:e:
to the passages No, 7, in the respective speeches.,
.will slew what was the partimoitat motive 'kn.
Intl) for opposing it at that time. tint tan a
Shade of difference be pointed out betwecipthe'
wishes of both to set this great question at rest,.
between the means, of conciliation attd conces-
sion, by which they proposed to accomplish it ? the
cart with which both would guard tbe Protestant
gotablishment from danget ?--or the great ,object
Which they had In viewe---to increase and to con-
, Vett the strength, the tratiquillity, and the hap.
of the Empire •
One word, before I -conclude, as to the re.

scot correspondence. I entirely ugree with rite
Committee of the Pitt Club in their belief Ow

tint Protestant Ascendancy had not u firmer friend
than Mr'. PIM rliidOtlbtedly,.. it was the abject
ef-tiitt..iipes it eqoally is the object rtfAr. CAN-
, yiwol.....quitlified support of the Catholic
6(10, to secure, in woes, the erotebtant Elta-
blislaulent. But do 1, thereftire, believe that Mr..
,P4TT would have approved the adoption of the
taut of Protestintt Ascendancy ? On the cone
teary, I am persuaded that he would nut only
tact disapproved it, but would have carefully
avoided sanctioning, even by his presence, any
publics meriting at which he knew that it was to
be given; The Speech before us proves that be
worries not have sanctioned (in whatever form of
words it happened to be couched) any Toast which
was nied as the watch-Word of controversy,--as
war•cry of hostile triumph. This, Sir, was
notoriously the character of the Toast In ques-
tion, when (a very few years ago, and nut at
the early Anniversary Meetings in honour of
;Ir. PITT which took place during his life.
timc) it was first naturalized in _England by the
Committee, with direct reference to the Catholic
Question, to the exclusion of the good. old-fa.
Waned inicontroversial form in which English.
*men used to express their attachment-to the Con.
stitution in Church and State, Mr. PITT would
not have sanctioned any Toast intended or calcu.
sated to " inflame those religious animosities which
he wished to extinguish," to revive those con.
tending interests between Catholic and Protestant
wlsiek, whenever they do exist (the words are
Mr. Pa 's) "are most OdyerSe to the welfare,
the rosiimity, and the happiness of the State."
inet, Sir,
Your obedient servant, .
taZtatrit or TH NTT CZATB, AND
• - n? 4L C#I,R4NG'S, CO,Nrri4.
Trars.
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