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_ll,ee n thought if they could be of a conciliating temper and spirit t lation were necessary on that subject, having at their Com.
.won.. discussing questions of this kind, they could better attend
in sod the first legal assistance in England and Ireland, and
e advice contained in her Majesty's speech, to apply their also the advice of persons best acquainted with the real affairs
" rith., "d to improving the social condition of a pesple who were in both countries—he could not but believe, that with such
longnature kind-hearted and generous, but who had been too aid, it would not have been altogether impossible
117.'1.5 ,neglected, and thus developing the resources of that beau- that a measure for effecting such an improvement
land. With respect to the mo-ion of the Noble Lord the as legislation could effect might have been ready at the time
•a! ether for Lonilen, it was a mere party attack of one great when Parliament again met. Ile said that was an opinion
division of the House upon the other, and, of course, they should which he could nut help feeling somewhat inclined to entertain.
411 be found voting under their particular banners. At the same time, he was far from venturing to condemn the
Lord HOWICK, who was in the con Tenement of his ob- I issuin of that commission ; it was possible that the difficulties
nervations somewhat inaudible, was understood to say that on of theg subject might be greater than he thought, and that this
both cities of the House it seemed, as far as the debate had yet step might have a necessity. He thought it was an unfortunate
z()nel
_to be admitted that no prospect had yet been held out by necessity; but, still, he admitted that such a necessity might
her ,Jejesty's Government of a measure which should produce have existed. But the conclusion he drew from it
content and tranquillity in Ireland. The House would re- was this—that if all they could do towards reme-
Tember that immediately before the Right Hon. and Learned dying the physical distress of the Irish people, was
lentleman got up to speak, the Right Hon. Baronet the Se- to afford them the distant prospect of improvement
Pcretary of State for the Horne Department had risen for the held out to them by this much talked of commission,
urees. • . .
01 explaining certain expressions used by him, and he thought it far more necessary that they should pro-
etlemn had been adverted to by the Right Honourable vide other measures, which he believed were more inditpen-
d't other for Kildare (Mr. More O'Ferrall). It sable. It appeared to him that the more they considered the
"'Veered to him (Lord Howick ), he confessed, actual state of Ireland, the more ground there was for coming
that the Right Hon. Gentleman's explanation was longer than to the conclusion, that they could not efface discontent from
tahned not so e'.ear as the words he had originally used ; but, at that country by the mere removal of its physical distress. No
.acne time, he hail not perceived ant material difference in doubt great poverty affected the masses ;no doubt the struggle
wore
meaning. If he understood the "Right lion. Baronet's which existed there to obtain the means of even the most miser-
Noble, heJames Graham ) had been told by his able existence, entered deeply into the causes of their discon-
iio... Friend the Member for the City of London (Lord John tent. But he was persuaded that this bitterness was greatly
s"eil) that we had military occupation of Ireland, which was increased, and never could have risen to the point at
h°l' governed. The Right Hon. Gentleman replied (and if which it had then arrived, if there had not rankled
tar he he cou'd correct his words)—" Yes, we have mills in the minds of the people a constant sense of injury and wrong;
s•ahoY..,,Oc.cupation of Ireland, and it was necessary that we Hence, even if her Majesty's Government had been prepared
win have it when we saw obvious sign* of a design to to deal with the physical evils of Ireland in a much larger and
e!t it from us by physical force." Those were the words more comprehensive manner than they were prepared to do—
or :ie Right Hon. Gentleman. What was the real meaning had they been prepared to submit at once a law in relation to
Brestsaying they hail military occupation of Ireland? landlord and tenant—had they been prepared to propose the
vs:" they perceived indications of an attempt to setting on foot a plan for public works, on an extensive scale,
Wh:t d•t from them by physical force.—( Hear, hear.) were they prepared with a well considered system of colonise-
out the RI that mean, but that they were conscious that through- tion, even were they prepared with all these measures, still he
ditaffe. great body of the Irish people there reigned a spirit of should have said that even these would not have produced the
''tmn—that they were retained in their allegiance, not by effect desired, they would not have their influence unless ac-
sense
the of duty, but by a sense of prudence, in consequence of companied by other measures calculated to remove from the
o,,eoree that the Government were able to maintain there— minds of the people of Ireland the galling sense of injury
(Hear, hear) their hearts were alienated from them, and and injustice, more especially with reference to the
tre'rt, P°wer tested, not upon affection, but force? That was partial treatment of the religion to which they belonged.
• sent end ;that
meaning of what the Right Hon. Gentleman had Unless they were prepared to do something in this respect,
gleel—that was the real meaning of the measures which her every other measure they could adopt would be unavailing.
stal.e'tY:. Government had adopted. But if that was the real Was it possible the Irish people could fail to feel most bitterly
1./0 oi things, he wanted to know—and the Right the pressure of the manner in which they had dealt with the
it umtrable Gentleman at the same time admitted, that religion to which the great body of the people belonged ?h Was
assll,; a state which could not permanently continue. it possible that the partial treatment of that ancient faith, to
The ad told them that they could not always govern by force. which the bulk of the people clung with such attachment—
of th): might do so for a time—for a short interval such a state ( Hear)—when compared with the treatment given to all other
gov_mgs might be endured—but as a permanent instrument of faiths, should not create in their minds a constant rankling, and
vre_nernnient in Ireland force was entirely ineffective. Those sense of injustice, which, while it existed, they could never
ruard the words of the Right Hon. Gentleman. But having hope to win their affections ? The Right Hon. Gentleman had
aste_eerhat admission—when the Right lien. Baronet, the said that, since Roman Catholic Emancipation was cirried,
host tor Devonport (Sir G. Grey having quoted that the principle of religious equality had been fully en-
ha remarkable deelaration on the part of the Government, forced in Ireland. Ile (Lord Howick) was at a loss
th asked what were the means they proposed fur recovering to understand the grounds upon which he maintained that
heet.,affections of the Irish people—what rational prospect they argument. What were the simple facts of the case? The
odd of getting rid of the spirit of disaffection which pre- Roman Catholic Church was the ancient Church of Ireland.
Nottt amongst that people—what was the answer from the Some three centuries ago, or rather mere, the endowments
fo,,'e Lord, the Secretary for Ireland? He was sure he felt were, by their act, transferred from it to the l'rotestant
wh'erne difficulty in which his Noble Fiiend found himself. But Church—the Protestants being a small minority of the popula-
,,,e_ asked a question of such vast importance as that, the tion—the great body of the people still adhering to their ancient
'ile"ltentan holding the highest situation in immediate con- faith. Further, the great boey of the people, from whom they
comp", with the Government of Ireland could do nothing but wrested their endowments for their religious wants, was the
akiisntdrib•uotriweitardefwith some miserable details in defence of his poorest population in Europe, while those to whom they
patronage, and of attempting to prove how assigned the Church revenues were ate wealthier classes. Nor
thst and good his intentions were towards Ireland. When was this all. 'f hey added insult to injury. Even to the Pres-
et-thwas all his Noble Friend could come forward with—while byterians, who were, by the letter of the law in Ireland, as
as o.oe
_,sarne time he (Lord Howick) knew his intentions were much Dissenters as the Roman Catholics, they gave a share of
fro; as he stated—when he heard such a statement as that the bounty of the State. The only part of the popula-
tit: Noble Friend, the ease must be very serious indeed. tion they left unprovided with the means of religious
relle4,r, bear.) Had her Majesty's Government seriously instruction was the great bulk of the people—that
oil de
on the import of the words they had used, or class which stand most in need of pecuniary assistance.
theate`tie greatness of the danger those words in- Now he would ask them was that just? Did they think that
such ? Did they suppose that in the existence of Ireland could be reconciled to the continuance of that state
ease general disaffection as that, that it was a of things, by such arguments as they were in the habit of
itori fowhere they could wait for a more convenient sea- hearing in that House, and which they had heard that night
hour nrf.P.,r°Posing better measures—did they suppose that every from the Right Hon. and Learned Gentleman (Mr. Shaw)?
1,51 tr-u uelay was not of the utmost. importance ? Why, it Let them recollect that it. was in vain for them to reasond ever
lihro,d,et while peace lasted, while they were riot attacked from so closely in their own minds, unless theycoutdhpersua e the
anee t_ he believed there was no sort of danger of open
.resist- Irish people to agree . with them. They mig reason as
ezhibi, their authority, and that if there were such resistance closely as the best logicians that ever camefrom their univer-
lestted, he was certain it would be repressed. While peace sities. Their premises might be unshaken, and their chain of
Ara' nt It wits true. But the very consequence of that state of reasoning unbroken—all that might be the case, yet if they
thatl„:", that all improvement in Ireland was arrested, failed to convince the minds of the Irish people they were as
was relation of life was poisoned, and the whole country far from their object as ever. What they had to consider was
theird with strife and ill-blood ; men's passions raised, and not whether their arguments were good, but whether they
Proaueflier excited one against the other, and a state of society would weigh with the Irish people. He knew full well that.
were fou which, he thought, must be intolerable to all who he was wearying the House, but. he could. not avoid entering
tent of riejd to abide amidst it. That might be the utmost ex- into one or two of those arguments which had been brought.
swould es'Te evil, and, God knows, it was bad enough. But he forward. One of the first respecting the Church Establish-
mreien—‘, had they reflected what would be the result if a ment, which had been advanced by the Right Honourable
were"; war broke out—whet would he their situation if they Gentleman, rested upon the Act of Union, and he
eeistee.'gain called on to carp on a mortal struggle for their found great fault with his ( Lord Howick's) friend
ageneirC ith a foreign enemy—when,) amidst such' difficulties, for saying that the fifth article of the Act of
not ry,,third of the whole populaion of theempire were Union ought to be expunged.—( Hear, hear.) What
they ready to take part with them, but against them—when was the ground of the Right Hon. Gentleman's. objection to
oe ready, On the first favourable opportunity, to rise up that ? Why, that the Parliament of Ireland, which agreed to
from
da ..,ade Government with that deadly hatred which sprung that provision, was exclusively and purely Protestant, and that
ivli dissensions? Did they really consider how fearful a they never would have agreed to the union else. They might
'tn'ns, at,was ? Peace might continue, but it was more than have been purely Protestant, but they were certainly pure in
that th-eem" say that it was to last for ever. Did they not see no other sense.—( Hear, hear, and laughter.) What was called
ycontinuance of such a state of things furnished them, the Irish Parliament was the most notoriously corrupt assembly
%eau; Petty misunderstanding, with a temptation, knowing that had ever met, and could have no pretence to have ever re-
Ntsiste" of England's weakness, to ask for that which was in• presented the opinions of the Irish people. It had been said—
big
snit with her interests. Did they not risk, by maintain- and he believed the Right Hon. Gentleman would say so him-
With 171 a state of things, the power of carrying on war self—that as a representation of the Irish people it was the
4rbetea joa'Fe ? That was the effect of the policy now veriest farce and delusion that had ever been acted ; and to say
tog _aids Ireland.—( Hear. He knew what he should be that that. Parliament, because it was purely Protestant, was at
so nh that those were things which ought not to be publicly liberty to tie the great English and Irish nations to all per-
athi,‘„eurned,—that the danger of the country ought hardly to be petuity—( Hear, hear)—and combine in making one thing for
by ferteaar'inuch less publicly mentioned in that House. If, ever binding in their consciences, was to maintain a system
its existenc eg
.to speak of the danger they could get rid of which shook every principle of natural justice. When the-
the
real state ; if,
.however they might delude themselves as to Right Hon. Gentleman said that the union was a ground for
stood by eof things, he could believe that it was not under- maintaining the Church Establishment, he only furnished an
imPortitrinn_ose to whom the knowledge of it was of such argument to the Hon, and Learned Member fur Cork in favour
st'ountry `to`•--tilf he did not believe that to open the eyes of the of the repeal of the union ; but as an argument to reconcile the
the situation in which they were placed was the Irish people to that Church Establishment, Inc must indeed have
in:teeP. ot!ttrrying such measures as that situation required— the simplicity of a child to have for a moment believed it.
spokumon. ot entertain that conviction, he should not have One of the chief ornaments of the Established Church said that
h 5,0 that state of things. But, thinking so he should the only ground upon which an Established Church could be
th'i_e4ll,l?. his duty if lie did not tell them the he
in maintained, was on that of conferring benefit on the great body
repeatiutle_
annlieved them to be ; and here he could net avoid of the people.—( Hear.) Some of the ablest and best defenders
again observation.. which had been made over and over of our Church admitted that it should be maintained only so far
"reiand that
House, that it was not th.• existence of agitation as it promoted the spiritual welfare of the great body of the
that was the source of that danger, that it was not people • that it should be supported for the advantage of the
the /iolent
Incluse . angnage used at meetings, that it was not the enor- greater number. When the anomalous position of the Irish
the multitudes that attended those meetings, that it was not people was mentioned to the Right Hon. Baronet, the ece
Repeal
being organised by the Repeal Association nor the tary of State for the Home department, how did he answer?
eser a' rent, that in themselves constituted the danger. Those o Oh, yes," said he, "but the great majority of the people of
morel the sins and s
nch the dyanger rgeally eonsisttemdp. toms of the disaffection in Great Britain and Ireland belong to the Established Church
Rentlena He believed there was no and by the Act of Union it is the United Chutch of England
that it was of ordinary reflection who did not agree with him, and Ireland." That was the most satisfactory explanation the
pulation in theth state of mind which prevailed amongst the po- Right Hon. Baronet gape—but did he think that the people' of
titled, the rear d country which constituted, and alone consti- Ireland would not see through this shallow sophistry ?—( Hear,
inference, that baynmgeerre. If
so'
did it not follow as a necessary hear.) Did he remember how much that argument prevailed
content they did n
0 really repressing the outward signs of dis- when they attempted to force Episcopacy On Scotland?—( Hear,
100 d,
itwhich the signs
tent from good, unless they removed that discon- hear,) Why, ii he were not very much mistaken, he hearth
hey was possible they proceeded? Nay,• instead of doing the Right Hon. Gentleman himself say, some years ago, in
might thereb • increase the danger. one of those highly wrought and beautifully expressed passages
fact
or rrittsh t do so by blinding) their eyes to danger.
of which he was so much a master, the chief title of the people
those
eet.ts continuance, and by rendering more bitter of Scotland to the admiration of the world, was the manner in
they too `k 'tiongs of discontent by the very means which which they resisted Episcopacy in Scotland.—(Hear, hear. )
totedge
of t•epresii
the the agitation. Then he said, if they were He thought the Right Hon. Gentleman had told them some-
ecm'ider policy of her Majesty's Government, they must thing of the Scotch people having trusted to their good clay-
of the whether it had been directed to regain the affections mores.—(Hear, hear.) The memory of the Irish was not less
iii,t Jeepeople of Ireland or merely to repress thepower •ltthan his, and they 'would naturally say, what
t of
.rte- quic or retentive
and maintain external obedience' to their au hori 7. was good
for
Scotland must be good for Ireland.—(Bear, hear. )
th..iWas far from denying that force was
emenee necessary to obtain The present condition ofthe Irish Church was the
'ter, • and to prevent the
merit and of he authority of the Executive Go- best argument for Repeal, and was contrary to every principle
!le yad • e Imperial Parliament from insult. That of natural justice. It was sacrificing the interests of the great
half bee mated ; but he contended that the measures which •
adoPted for that
if flreit care, _ purpose should have been considered ( Hear, hear.) They mistook the interests of the feeling that
e . and of a very moderate eharacter ; and that existed in Ireland, and underrated the strength of their
ht have
he 'in n with others they would be of no av il No a . ment.. He . firmly believed that the Irish people might have
ttrern cattle to consider
In„e). ent, it did the conduct of her Majesty's Go- been induced to submit to the Established Church had not the
had appear to him that whatever degree of vigour safety of that Church been made the pretext for maintaining
tsereprewizplayed, it was confined entirely to their measures cruel abuses.—( Hear, hear.) The Established Church had
tlnieas..tnegs external signs of disobedience ; and that even in been made the pretext for maintaining the penal laws, which
oits of tirneneadopted for that purpose there was a singular were a diserace to civilization and the blackest stain on the
e e, of foresight, and of firmness ; but that with pages of English history.—(Hear, hear.) They should not
rt.,.atith„ drrree.ea dhere had been combined little or nothing in forget that year after year Right Hun. Gentlemen opposite
thr'ning of the'rn• Of the measures haying for their aim the came down to that House, and when equality of civil rights
the
People
, affections of the Irish people, he must say was demanded for the Catholics of Ireland they resisted them,
tell
People hitA field out were infinitely below what alleging that the Established Church would be. shaken to its
rent,
of“ti right to expect, and infinitely below what the foundation.—( Hear, hear.) Oh, how
alpsort-sighted was the
thertiet."lt, in the e c"e demanded. In the last session of Par- Right Hon. Baronet when he used such retext as that
the ;ery remarkable debate which took place on the (Hear, hear.) Did he not recollect that they would fill the
° that I°n. Member for Limerick (Mr. S. O'Brien), Catholiceoleof Ireland with detestation of that Church ? After
theer what
we(the Apposition) side of the House had stated very Emancipation had been granted was not that Church
elend re the measures which they thought the situation still put forward in the most offensive manner as the opponent
110 required. r •
hrtt. U"
With He ( Lord Howick) himself had troubled of the liberties and privileges of the Irish people. For the, sake
d.., Perhae` very full statement of his own opinions on the of that same Church they had, -elm within the last few years,
tft.u,t, in doing so he went beyond the strict line of refused justice on the matter of the franchise, and on the ye-
gna`iloalt respo'unsibl
i.dependent Member of Parliament, having no gulation of municipalities—they would not equahso them with
cient_ance with iitYi and being able to boast of no personal ac- those of England for fear of the Church E.stablishment being
itro43' r',° full orfelan'l' But be thought the situation of that endangered.—( Hear,. heart )° Those things, he. repeated,
the e_ opinion danger, that it was the duty of all who had had sunk deeply into the hearts of the Irish people.
tyt';;etind
tias to the necessity of a change of policy, to state Did they think that three centuries of oppression, for the
str,.envernmentat °Pinion'
for the consideration of her Mates- purpose of strengthening the bulwarks and outworks of that
teary? from that and of this House. In reply to what was Church, had not roduced its necessary effects en the minds
Posed: butt
Opposition) side of the House, her Ma- of the Irish people? Let us put ourselves in the position of the
Willett
_out the,;72,,,1t made many objections to what was pro- Irish people, and suppose that they were the stronger country,
the ti°o, that -',7`tasgested nothing whatever of their own. So and that they wanted to force their Church upon us, would we
Pleene, oh his 1:40ble Friend, the Member for London, at not resist them? Yes; and the Right Hon. Baronet would be
!halt; arid gentled that really they seemed to have changed the first to offer that resistance, and resist it too with the clay-
'ask ng, as if eiren from the Opposition side seemed to be more. Could the Right Hon. Baronet put his hand on his
°jai r re, tneY were entrusted with the solemn heart, and say he would submit to such an imposition pa-
Rive rest
mending to Parliament on their offi- tiently.—(Hear, hear.) For his (Lord Howick's) part, he
ets°'ilntra, opt „f yn some scheme of policy which might would avow that he would not submit to such an injustice—he
vilyee.' hale it•lnleting the distractions of that unhappy would not tamely bow to the yoke. Now, if they would not
t!het , hu Right Hon. Gentlemen opposite seemed em- submit to a Roman Catholic Church Establishment, they being
eat ,say, cari,
c,.mble task of criticising—perhaps, be should ra- Protestants, how could they expect that the Irish people would
he, Gore,. 'o—at the line or police suggested Her Ma- endure it ? —(Hear, hear.) The Hon. arid Learned Member
she ' took "lent had e • •"`
uld .4gals whe,o r ,at onome, nothing to suggest. for tee niversi y. o U f Dublin, in adverting to the subject, said
blpse, and
recess to ider what measures they he had taken his stand upon the great ground of religious
Wien(s,'„,airtnnet the what were those measures of the Right truth.—l" Hear, hear," from Mr. Shaw.) Now, if there was
tell warn certaireretary of State for the Home Depart- any one thing more calculated than
.anothe,r to aggravate the
k verk he: as he t
aalways did display to the best advantage Irish people, it was such a declaration. That was as much as
intuutt beg ith alldust offer to the House ?—(Laughter. ) to say the Roman Catholics were wrong, and we were
o,,ed thated, a__ art, COUld show them nothing but right. —(" Hear, hear," from Mr. Shaw.) Yes, yes (conti-
. ar:ll,hefusr_;t!ount of empty boxes. He had told them nued the Noble Lord), of course the Hon. and Learned
retn,ch to scs titer they were to introduce a Registration Member thinks so ; and so did he (Lord Howick) firmly be-
, ve the
,Include an extension of the county franchise, lieve ; but what he complained of was legislating upon that
th 'own voters fro
nee te Into em also that m some vexatious formalities. opinion.—(Hear.) Catholics had been admitted to an equality of
apatio_ the 15._
and a commission had been appointed to civil rights. And the Legislature should not tell them by
Post,riZof land. practice in Ireland in relation to the their legislation that their creed was false and idolatrous,
at" Which which ti:•ntt.that was all positively of the slightest which in effect the Hon. and Learned Member for the Um-
rpial ne hirn,ei„"ight Hon. Baronet had to offer, at a versity of Dublin had do(Hear, hear.) Roman Catholics
Y, kept lee of admitted was so critical that all the were as conscientious in their religious belief as Protestants, and
HOO 11
by
.was arrayed against them, and was the Legislature should not either insinuate their disbelief at
..„a positive
rn) „.11 ronet the military force—that was all the that conviction er scoff at that religion, by proclaiming one
te teens. teu"aa able isecretary of State for the Home De- creed as " the ground of religious truth," and treating all who
his asere With
_0 suggest to the British House of Com- dissented from it as if they were unworthy of consideration.—
e.`enehis_Was gres„ respect to the Bill for registration, such a ( Hear, hear.) What right could he have to assume the
ar et v.', If giv:"Y wanted • and the extension of the count privile eof•I d in u o tl r eetive merits of the Roman
`tll q'antais 'n
in
a liber • • • g jig g pn le . e.sp
ld be of
Sre. , ee, a, is
yt a and confiding spirit, would
ot,t it th.near.) ould remove a great and crying wrong. that more than half the Christian world adhered to that faith,
`couldboos b°pn llo7betrausted that it would be conceived in a that it had sent its missionaries to the most remote parts of the
Rrett,
I.llear,
war)e insult concealed under the guise would, whu
the.heir exertions promoted the good of their fellow-
ilut, so, it
_e. He hoped it would turn out a real men anti . glory of God, and who, by their sufferings
real r meal at the
suunt remove a wrong which was very and the privations they endured, gave ample proof of their sin-
Yait, ores, he barna time, unless it was coupled with cerity ?—( Hear, hear, and cheers.) lie asserted that they
the "ould could tellthe • its shoutl full • '
4tlt. out
be, that • Right lion. Baronet only now t oant ample justice to the people of Ireland,
Alt
friends of
od of how, it %soul(' put new arms into the hands and that at the earliest possible period. If they had granted
Iniiihtneinulistsitier
,4' hantd thus enable them to insist on the Catholic Emancipation at an earlier period, and had shown
now, also relatin s antial grievances. With respect. to after it a sense of confidence in the Irish people—if some years
It 4 not h trove adventsa to land, he trusted that that ago they had consented to the Appropriation clause—(Loud
in tas Perfectel entert_.geou,, but he confessed he cries of " Hear, hear')—such a formidable systematic agitation
t4O hat revs
eY true a'
that rung some doubts on that point. would not. now pervade that country. He warned that House
het:, ingeult7.t greatt__ the social condition of Ireland was before, that by the withdrawal of this clause from the Irish
teetk=%lateatiT caned c.L. neglected. Some improvement was Clturch Bill they left behind them a much larger demand, and
th und or 3' s Gov u., but it was' •
at fQ, ' ernment h a another question whether one which
would come speedily upon them. If they had only
that time the "Y ' one h at that . a adepted the most judicious consented to some compromise at
.. Roman Ca-
es,jBsuin, „ e could
not improvement ; and he confessed tholics would at once have agreed to in; but they refused, anti,
eeft"ttatiol,‘,"at cotor4 be without. some apprehension that he regretted to say, were supported by the prejudices of the
striae Nail:which here:D.n, they might have excited ;ague people of England. As they had then yielded nothing to the
tnar liar Inea.trurg. He
_,titetr there would be not a little diffi- people of Ireland, so now that people would yield nothing to
be tO eetn7_: of reat"i_ulci not but believe that a very much them, and perfect and e mat justice must be ceded to
afire h peep existing"'
differences,
"` now, would have done Ireland. He knew that in certain quarters he was
titiou'_°ferredurm this soh. erenees, and quiet the minds of likely to meet with little sympathy, but still he
9ui‘ll uni..had bee_a later peril,e,Tt, than even a much larger mea- thought it to be his duty to tell the whole truth,
masorithi" more and const--
ug when their aeain asserted that the time was now come
hdou nneerat e .d• He did not think th 1 P‘'
anld d full and impartial justice to Ireland,
the
subarld
tt nsion ; and heat t iat was when
they shou ren er
which this might be done. In
t..neve!.ritoe Jee.. why it was tro_omibi t confessed he did not and there were many modes in
° tit r!' had pent did aPPearPto t t for Med the majority
air pose - 'secedd at itn, that if her Majesty's among st the • g e different religious persuasions, and there the Pro-
er, con,„ pnee to obtain the best assist- testant religion was bt blished ; in Scotland the ma-
y law es. a
'dome me
a15 What improvements of legit- jority belonged to the Presbyterian, and there that was the. Est-