The Sun.
London, England, 1845-04-28 00:00:00

RAIIAV AY COMMITTEES.

('I'IIIS DAY.)

Group T.
SYSTON AND PETERBOROUGH RAILWAY.
MONDAY, SIXTH DAY.
The Committee met to-day, to consider the clauses of this
Bill ; Sir George Grey, Bart., in the chair.
Mr. WHATELET, on the part of Lord Harborough, re-
marked that he could not assent to the clauses the Com-
mittee had drawn up since Saturday, relative to the mode in
which the line was proposed to be taken through his Lord-
ship's grounds.
The clauses had been drawn up on the recommendation of
the Committee at the close of its sitting on Saturday, founded
on an arrangement which it was said the Company had ef-
fected with the proprietors of the Oakham Canal, which
passes through his Lordship's grounds, and along which it
was proposed to take the line of railway.
The CHAIRMAN suggested that any opposition to the clauses
should be offered when they came in regular order before•the
Committee, and that the objections should be confined to the
adequacy of the clauses to carry out the arrangement come
to on Saturday. The preamble of the Bill the Committee

had considered proved, and the); could not consent to the re-
opening of the main question.
A number of clauses were then read, but no discussion
took place till those relating to tolls were brought under con-
sideration.

The CHAIRMAN and Mr. RINDLEY considered the rates both
relating to passengers and goods too high, and gave several
instances of lower rates in old-established lines. The Great
North of England, the Newcastle and Darlington, and the
Manchester and Ashton-ulider-Lyne Railways were cited as
cases in point, along with several others. The clauses were
ultimately postponed, in order to enable the Committee to
collect definite information respecting the average rate
of charges on other lines.
The clauses relating to the carrying of the line through
Lord Harborough's estate were then gone into.
The first clause in reference to this matter was then read,
which was to the effect that the line might be taken through
the park, according to a line marked in a plan produced,
either on the site of the canal, or outside of it to a distance of
a hundred yards, as circumstances might require it.
Mr. WHATELEY said it was the understanding on Saturday
that the railway should be substituted for the canal through
his Lordship's grounds. Now, there was nothing respecting
this in the clause just read, so that it gave the Company the
power to take the railway through the grounds, without
using the canal as had been agreed to. There was, there-
fore, the possibility of a double nuisance ; there might be both
the canal and railway existing at the same time. There was
no security whatever that the canal would be used for
the purposes of the company, as the latter
could do nothing in regard o£ using the canal without
an Act of Parliament. He thought the Bill ought to
be postponed till an Act, empowering the company to take
up the canal, was passed.
The CHAIRMAN stated that the Committee had considered
the objection of Lord Harborough to the original plan of the
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had felt desirous of a better arrangement being come
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to. Now, however, he thought the clause proposed
quite as favourable as the proposition for taking the
line along the canal, inasmuch as the line if not carried
along the canal, in the event of the arrangement
with the proprietors not being satisfactorily concluded, it
would be taken outside of it, and at a greater distance from-

his Lordship's house.
Mr. TALBOT, on the part of the company, said they were
willing to add an additional clause to the Bill, in order to
give time for negotiations with his Lordship, and the canal
proprietors. It was in substance that no land should be
taken from his Lordship's ground without his consent within
a twelvemonth from the passing of the Act.
After some further discussion this clause, in addition to the
other clauses relating to this portion of the line, were
agreed to.
The clauses respecting Stamford-bridge were next taken
into consideration, and severally agreed to. They provide
that 5,000/. shall be applied by the company to the widen-
ing of the bridge ; and that, for the additional accommodation
of the inhabitants of Stamford, a footbridge shall be erected.
A clause was also agreed to, that at the point where the line
meets with the Eastern Counties Railway, near Peterborough,
the speed of the trains should not be more than four miles
per hour.
After agreeing to several other unimportant clauses, the
CoMmittee adjourned till Thursday, at twelve o'clock.

Group X.
The Committee appointed to investigate the merits of the
Bills comprised in group X met this morning in Committee-
room No. 16 ; present, Lord Courtenay, Chairman, Mr.
Darby, Mr. P. Scrope, Mr. M'Geachy, Mr. B. Wall.
The Committee had the following Bills before them,
namely,—London and York—Lincoln, York and Leeds
Direct Cambridge and Lincoln Direct Northern
Eastern Counties (Cambridge and Huntingdon)
Eastern Counties (Ely and Whittlesea) Eastern
Counties ( Hertford and Biggleswade)—Eastern Counties
(Finsbury Extension)—Eastern Counties (Ely and Lincoln
Extension)—Midland Railways Extension (Swinton and
Lincoln)—Midland Railways Extension (Lincoln and Ely)
—Rotherham, Bawtry, and Gainsborough Junction—Shef-
field and Lincolnshire junction—York and North Midland
and Doncaster Extension—Tottenham and Farringdon-
street Junction.
At the sitting of the Committee, this morning, strangers
were ordered out of the room in order that the Committee
might deliberate as to their mode of proceeding. On the re-
admission of strangers, they ware informed that no one but
agents and counsel would be allowed to remain. The reporters
were rudely expelled, but they forwarded a note into the
room to Lord Courtenay, signed by the reporters for the
Times, Morning Chronicle, Morning Herald, and The Sun.
The answer to this note was, that one reporter might be ad-
mitted, but only one. This proposition was, of course, rejected,
and another note was sent into the Chairman, and the answer
to this note was, " that the press could not be admitted to-
day, but perhaps they might be admitted to-morrow."
We may add that the Committee Clerk, whose name is
Creed, was principally instrumental. in the refusal to admit
the reporters.

Group B.
WEST YORKSHIRE DISTRICT.
MONDAY, EIGHTH DAY.
The Committee sat this di at twelve o'clock.
P. M. STEWART, Esq., M.P., Chairman.
The CHAIRMAN announced that there were some clauses in
the Bill they had under their consideration on Friday which
they should postpone the consideration of, as they related to
tolls; other Committees having adopted the same course in
respect to similar clauses.
The Solicitor to the Bill then read the other clauses left
undisposed of on Saturday, in which some mere verbal
amendments were made.
Several Counsel announced that they appeared on behalf
of
tehp ther
Company, Mr. Edwards, Dlr. Slayden, Col.
the Bradford Board of Surveyors, and
s and West Riding line.
others,
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sLeeds
The CHAIRMAN said they would now proceed to business
with the
LEEDS AND WEST RIDING LINE.
Mr. AUSTEN said he would occupy very little of the time
of the Committee with his opening statement of the Leeds
and West Riding scheme. In this line he begged
to say that he included the branch from Cooperbridge
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verted S, and included Halifax and Leeds, and
Wakefield and Dewsbury, and many other im-
portant places before the Committee on the
map. The Leeds and Manchester Company had already
made one line, which had been found to be of great advan-
tage to the public. The communication which the
Leeds and Manchester Company had already given be-
tween Leeds and Manchester was sixty-one miles;
and they now proposed, by what they called the
West Riding Line, to give the shortest possible mode
of communication, by reducing the length of the distance
from 61 to 47 miles, thereby saving a journey of 13 miles,
by opening a communication by way of Halifax. Besides
that, they brought within the sphere of Leeds and Man-
chester the important town of Bradford, which was
eight miles from Birmingham. The population of Bradford
was 105,000, and therefore it would be a great convenience to
that mass of people to bring a railway station within 2i
miles of them, instead of eight miles, and they also put
Halifax on the line; and that town had a population
of 130,000 inhabitants, and therefore it would be unnecessary
to point out the• importance of having this line carried
us to this town. The second object of those who proposed
this line was to cause an inter-communication with Brad-
ford, Halifax, Dewsbury, and another district, not on the
map, but which he would call the Clackheaton Valley, and
which was a most important branch. In fact, what
was wanted was, that some giant station should stand
at the cross of Lemore and spread out his limbs all over this
line of country, in order to enable the people engaged in all
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the departments of such trades as dyeing, weaving, fulli n
slubbing, wool stapling, &c., all of which were of very great im-
portance, as well as for the convenience of a number of people
who did much of their work at home, and therefore wanted a
cheap and expeditious mode of going for and taking back
their work to the manufactories. Therefore, the objects of
the Leeds and Manchester Company in this scheme
was economy of construction, quick transit, and low
fares, all of which could best be achieved by the
lines being made by one Company. There was already
a branch from Leeds to Halifax, and therefore it was pro-
posed to begin at Copley Mills, where the gradient would
only be 1 to 100, and no private property would be inter-
fered with. They then went on from Halifax to
I..omore, which was the highest point on the line.
[LEFT SPEAKING.]

The
on Ecclesiasticalu
Commissioners for England had a
afternoon. There were present the
meeting
a t rday
Bishops of London, Winchester, Chester, Hereford, Lichfield,
and Worcester.
4.. The commission recently appointed to inquire into
the expediency and usefulness of remodelling and redistributing
hear,the circuits
to
of
thethedetermination
of recommending to Government
judges in England and Wales, have already, we
T the
the division of the present Northern Circuit into two. Manchester
and Liverpool, with their satellite towns, are, it is proposed, to
are
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ftohremneedw,
agreedcirc circuit. t.
to
aahveise Crown
to create a new court of
commissioners have, moreover, we
common law at Westminster; and for that purpose to withdraw two
judges from the courts of Common Pleas and Exchequer, and to
appoint two additional judges. These recommendations can
scarcely fail to meet with the general approval of the profession
and of the public.—Chronicle.
TRANSFER DAY.—In the course of the proceedings
before the county magistrates, at Evans's Hotel, on Saturday last,
a special application was made by Mr. Childs, on the part of Mr.
Newhouse, proprietor of the Horse and Groom, Maiden-lane, for a
renewal of the license of a house known as the Amphitheatre,
situated in Niewcastle-street, Strand, of which he had also become
the proprietor. It appeared, tom the statement of the applicant's
solicitor, that the house belonged to Messrs. Richmond and Co: ;
that the late landlord, a Mr. Christian, had become bankrupt, and
the trade assignee having neglected to apply for the license on the
part of the creditors, it had been refused, and the house had been
for some time closed. _After some-discussion, and it being shown
that the new proprietor was a respectable licensed victualler, the
application was granted.
CONSTABULARY FORCE IN IRELAND —From a re-
turn issued by order of the House of Commons on Saturday, it ap-
pears that the effective strength of the force in that country on the
hlostrsjesen; ntarheyrelabsetinwgasalsgo a reserve,l93tn forceenin
nt
ofhe general force, and 288
203 men and 22 horses.
The total expenditure for 1844 was 443,392/. 14s. 2% d. On the
Ist of January last, also, there were the following stipendiary ma-
gistrates% existing :—one at 1,0001. a year, besides extra expenses ;
three at 6051. 7s. ; two at 4614 tes- od., besides 184/. as lodging
allowarEes per annum; one at 5001.; eight at 4001., besides 1001.
as lodgAng allow...mei; thirty-three at 4001.; and twelve at 3501.
-
Th ie Lords of
.the Admiralty have authorised Sir
Willi am Symonds; the Surveyor of the Wavy, to build at Pain
broke two first-class steam-slogps of about 1,000 tons each, to be
provelled by the screw, and each ,to carry ten guns. ,Tho-name Of
one is to be the Contict and of the -other the Desperate.—United
t rvfee qaulit •