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'GR,EAT LEAGUE MEETING
IN COVENT-GARDEN.
The NEXT AGGREGATE MEETING of the LEAGUE,
in the THEATRE ROYAL, GOVENT.GARDEN, will be held
on WEDNIZSDAY next, the 15th of January.
GEORGE WILSON, Esq., will take the Chair at Seven
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on charitable donations and bequests in Ireland for any
Catholic purposes. Any such restrictions or limitations
that now exist are the creation of the late statute.
" This should be kept constantly in recollection.
Before this new Act it was lawful to grant by deed, or
bequeath by will, property of any amount for Catholic
purposes. 'This power continued in each individual
until as shortly before death as the rational faculties
continued. In particular it was lawful to grant or be-
queath property—
" Ist. To build and endow Catholic hospitals.
" 2d. To build and endow Catholic convents for nuns.
" 3d. To build and endow Catholic schools.
" 4th. To build and endow Catholic orphanages.
" sth. To build and endow houses of refuge for Ca-
tholic males and Catholic females, paupers and penitents.
6th. To build and endow Catholic churches and
chapels.
" i di. To build and endow houses:for residence of the
Catholic clergy.
" Bth. To endow with glebes Catholic archbishops,
bishops, and priests, and to grant or bequeath to them
lands or mon•sy to any amount of value.
" 9th. To create funds for maintaining the sacrifice of
the mass, or other stated or specified prayers for any
number of persons, or for any length of years, for the
benefit of the living or the dead.
" 10th. To endow Catholic sodalities, or guilds, for
teaching the Catholic Catechism, or Catholic prayers; or
for instructing in the proofs of the Catholic religion.
" 11th. In short, it was lawful for Catholics by deed,
or by will, to convey property for every imaginable
charitable purpose, although exclusively limited for the
use of Catholics.
" Nor were these charities the less valid, although
Protestants might be permitted by express words, or by
implication, to share in the benefits of the charitable
purposes.
" Thus, in fine, before the passing of the recent sta-
tute, it was competent, in point of law, to endow all
manner of Catholic charities and religious purposes,
with one exception."
What room was there, then, for additional advantages?
None but what my Bill would have supplied.
Such was the opinion which I gave and published in
the month of August last. The exception alluded to
was that relative to the regular clergy, of whom more
hereafter.
Such was my opinion. It emphatically asserted that
all Catholic charities of every kind were, before the Be-
quests Act, perfectly secure. All—all—thee regular
clergy excepted.
Such was my opinion—published in all the newspa-
pers ; contradicted by nobody. The Crown. lawyers
hare not contradicted this opinion in any way directly
or indirectly. The authorities of the Castle so com-
pletely acquiesced in my opinion that no query on these
points was put to the Crown lawyers. I have my judg-
ment corroborated by the acquiescence of the Clastle and
of the Crown lawyers.
But what is better still, every point to which I alluded
in that opinion has been confirmed by solemn judicial
determination. I allude in particular to the eases of
"The Dempsey Charity," "The Hevey Charity," "The
Kearns Charity," and particularly " The L'Arcy
Charity."
I have brought the papers with me here in the, D'Arcy
charity. The other cases were decided by Lord Man-
ners, Lord Plunket, and the present Master of the Rolls.
The D'Arcy Charity was established by the detvree of a
greater lawyer than any of the three—the present Chan-
cellor Sugden. All apprehensions, such as those that
might have been entertained in 1840, were thus termi-
nated. There existed no longer, and there does not
exist, any question on Catholic charities. Even an an-
nuity granted in perpetuity for celebrating mrsas for the
soul of the testator has been decreed to be a valid cha-
rity. How much do I respectfully wish that his Grace
Doctor Murray would have condescended to have looked
at this state of the law before he persuaded himself that
the Bequests Act had conferred any advantages on Ca-
tholic charities. It had not room or spacal to do good.
It is admitted by his Grace to do mischief-
Such having been, I will say, unquestisxnably and un-
doubtedly, the state of the law respecting Catholic cha-
rities before the Bequests Act, I proceed to consider
whother there has been any alteration, for the better,
either in substance, or in machinery, lily that Act. In
substance it is clear there could be now. Let us see if
there be any in the machinery.
This is the second point, as relating to any ameliora-
tion by the Bequests Act. To discu4s this point the
most respectful way is to use the viery words of his
Grace in page 21 of the pastoral, why or e he purports to
show forth the advantages derivable t=om the Bequests
Act.

ceive how it is to be done. It is quite true that to vest
the property in Catholic trustees there must be incurred
the expense and trouble of having prepared for execu-
tion a deed or a will.
But precisely similar trouble and expense must be
incurred in preparing a deed or will to vest the property
in the Commissioners. The original expense and trouble
are in both cases the same.
It is also quite true that, in the mode of preserving
charitable donations and bequests by the intervention of
trustees of one's own choice, there are, from time to
time, expenses incurred in changing incompetent
trustees, or in substituting a new trustee upon the death
of a former trustee. These expenses, however, are much
mitigated by the modern practice of substituting
trustees, by petition to the Chancellor, without a
plenary suit.
On the other hand, it is to be observed that the
Board of Commissioners is necessarily a fluctuating
body ; and that any misunderstanding among them-
selves can be solved only by the medium of a plenary
suit ; the entire expenses of which, whether the suit be
well grounded or not, must, according to the Bequests
Act, come out of the charitable funds. It is, therefore,
sufficiently clear that, on the grounds of saving expense,
little indeed can be achieved by means of the Bequests
Act. Nay, there are many contingencies by which, in
acting under the Bequests Statute, the expenses may be
greatly enhanced. Any difference of opinion in the
Board can be solved only by a plenary suit. With that
worst consequence, that in every case of a suit, whether
justly instituted or not, the costs come out of a charity
fund.
I have thus extracted from the pastoral the only ad-
vantages that aro sated or suggested by it to arise from
the Bequests Act ; and I do respectfully submit that it
is quite manifest that no solid or substantial advantage
is thus stated or suggested to be derivable from that
Act; at best, it really is but a mouthful of moonshine.
It is said, indeed, that there is much importance in the
recognition of the episcopal and archiepiscopal character
of our prelates, as well as the right succession in our
parish priests. But the decision in the D'Arcy charity
has mitigated any notion of this recognition being valu-
able. In that case the Most Rev. Dr. WHale was ad-
mitted as a co-plaintiff with the Most Rev. Dr. Murray,
expressly as the successor to the late Archbishop of
Tuam, the Most Rev. Dr. Kelly. This suit was com-
plete before the Bequests Act came into operation. Suc-
cession was, therefore, recognised in principle.
I have thus, in a manner which, I sincerely hope, is
as perfectly respectful as I fervently wish it should be,
canvassed the defence of the Bequests Act contained in
the pastoral of the Most Rev. Archbishop. The defence
has singular advantages in manner and in matter. In
manner, from the serious and sweet train of piety in
which it is drawn up. In matter, from the unquestion-
able talent and ability of the venerable writer; and from
the obvious sincerity which it displays. His Grace has
contemplated the Act in a point of view which, however
delusive, has fascinated himself. It is only surprising
that he has not equally fascinated others.
Nothing but the inherent errors in the Act could
prevent his Grace's defence from being complete. But
how could any defence of the Bequests Act be successful,
when that document contains, by the confession of his
Grace himself, " blemishes," "imperfections," "deplorable
defects," and a clause mischievous to charity ? Admis-
sions made from the spirit of truth and sincerity which
distinguish all the life of the venerated Prelate.
But what a vindication do not these admissions
contain of the opinims of the majority of the prelates
and clergy who have condemned the Act ! Ido humbly
trust that they will also palliate, if not justify, the de-
cided hostility which I have felt it my sacred and solemn
duty, ungifted layman as I am, to exhibit to this statute.
Let me now drop all further allusion to the pastoral,
and confine myself to the Act itself. My objections to it
are numerous, strong, and, I think, decisive. They are,
as briefly as I can state them, these :
First.—l object to the Act on principle. We are not
promised any amendment of it; but no amendment of it
would satisfy me. It contains the principle which lab •
hor, of a direct connection between the Catholic Church
and the State. There cannot be religious freedom
where there is a connection between the Church and
State. In such a connection the State always predomi-
nates, and tyrannizes, more or less, over the Church.
Religion should be free. It is a matter of an eternal
concern. The Church which teaches that religion should
be free from the shackles of man's power, direct or in
direct.

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SEWERS of WESTMINSTER and PART of
MIDDLESEX.

Notice is hereby given, that a Jury of Sewers have this day
delivered into Court a PRESENTMENT of the ESTATES
and PERSONS liable to be rated to the expense of maintaining
and repairing the COMMON SEWERS in the Western Division
of the Westminster Sewers and on the Counters Creek Sewer.
The said Presentment is open at this office for the inspection of all
persons interested therein ; and her Majesty's Justices and Com-
missioners will sit on Friday, the 17th January, and Friday, the
7th February, 1845, at One o'clock, when parties may be heard
against the said Presentment, as by law allowed.
LEWIS C. HERTSLET, Clerk.
Sewers' Office, 1, Greek.street, Soho-square, Jan. 10, 1845.

Secondly.—l object to the Act upon principle; as it
creates a connection between the Catholic prelates in Ire.
land and the Irish Government. This objection has no•
thing personal in it as far as relates to the three vene
rated prelates who form part of the commission. If an 3
men could be entrusted with the delicate and difficul

It must be admitted that he does not: purport to make
a very powerful case for the Bill. rnere is rather a
show of " empty boxes than anything powerful or
weighty, in the way of advantage, even.. upon his Grace's
own showing. Anxious, as he most justly was, to place
those advantages in the strongest point: of view, he con-
fines his praises to these two sentencesk.
First.—(These are his words : I repeat them)—" It
(the Bequests Act) places our chariti as in precisely the
same state in which we ourselves wished to have them

office of acting in such a connection, there certainly could
be no objection to these prelates. But the Catholic
Church of Ireland is not to be over-ridden by the Govern-
ment, even by the unintentional intervention of the most
respected of the prelacy.
Thirdly.—l object to this statute, because it gives
the Government the power of making selections and
picking choices among the Catholic prelates—enabling
the Government to select ono if they please, as being
more loyal than another, and rejecting others as not
being equally loyal with the chosen. In short, the Act
gives a power to the Government to adjudicate as it were
upon the character of our prelates—to estimate their
character, and to select amongst them by way of
preference. This objection appears to me quite un-
answerable.
Fourthly.—l object emphatically to any connection
between the Catholic prelates and the present Govern-
ment. Was not the Duke of Wellington bred up in the
worst school of no-Popery politics ? and when he
yielded Emancipation did he not expressly retain all his
prejudices against Catholicity ? Is not Sir Robert Peel
the man who organised the Orange system in Ireland ?
and ought he not to hate those who could not overcome
the errors of his judgment, but forced him against his
inclination to grant them their political rights ? We
have humiliated Peel, and it is utterly impossible he
should ever forgive us. Is not Sir James Graham an
avowed, or, at all events, an ill-concealed fanatic ? Is
not Lord Stanley the determined champion of Protes-
tantism in every quarter of the British empire ? I ask
it in shame and in sorrow, ought our prelates have any
connection with such men ?

four years ago."
Secondly.—" And it gives us the :power of vesting
property, without trouble or expense,., in perpetual se-
curity—for procuring glebes for our clergy—and for
building, enlarging, and upholding four places of reli-
gious worship."
Now, if his Grace had been perfectly accurate in the
advantages, in point of law, which he ilus describes, yet
I most humbly and respectfully submit that the Act
would afford no great bonus—and certainly none such as
to hold out any great temptation to laud the legislation
it contained.

It is my duty, however, to point out the inaccuracies,
in matter of law, into which his Grace Liu been led.
I take his two propositions separately and distinctly
from each other.
The first is in these words, respectiing the Bequests
Act :
" It places our charities in precisely the state in which,
we ourselves wished to have them placed four years ago.'
In this respect his Grace alludes to, a memorial that
he sets out from page 9 to page 13 of his printed pas-
toral— a memorial presented by the Catholic 'relates in
1840.

My answer respectfully is, that the Prelates, in 1840,
asked for very little indeed, and even that little has not
beon obtained by the Bequests Bill. Hero is the prayer
of the memorial :

Fifthly.—l object to the Act on principle, as forming
a connection between our prelates and the Irish Govern-
ment—that Government which owes its existence to the
virulent and anti-Catholic and anti-Irish feelings of a
majority of the English people ; feelings that were exas-
perated to the utmost virulence by the powerful writers
of the Tory press—a press which distinguished the Ca-
tholic people of Ireland as " a filthy and felonious multi-
tude," and characterised our clergy as " surpliced ruffians,"
and a " demon priesthood."
Sixthly.—l object upon principle to any connection
between our prelates and the present Irish Government
—that Government which selected for the highest judi-
cial authority Chief Justice Pennefather ; and for the
judicial bench Lefroy and Jackson ; and for the Mas-
ter's office in Chancery Litton—three of the most violent
enemies of Catholicity which the Irish bar could produce.
Seventhly.—l object upon principle to any connec-
tion between the Catholic prelates of Ireland and that
Irish Government which issued the tardy Clontarf pro-
clamation—a proclamation to which was affixed the name
of that very Lord Donoughmore, who is now, forsooth, a
co-commissioner of the Most Rev. Doctors Crolly and
Murray, and the Right Rev. Doctor Denvir. How little
could Lord Cloncurry, when he talked of the " projected
massacre " at Clontarf, imagine that he would ever see
Lord Donoughmore enrolled in the same corps of com-
missioners with any of our revered prelates ?
Eighthly.—l object upon principle to any connection
between the Catholic Prelates of Ireland and the Go-
vernment that persevered in the monster prosecution
against the leading Catholics, and so constructed the
jury that they were able to strike off all the Catholics
from the panel, and thus, as far as in them lay, repealed
the Emancipation Act. Are these jury-selectors to be
the familiar companions of our prelacy?
[The remainder of the letter of Mr. O'Connell has not
yet been received at the Pilot-office. The concluding
portion, we understand, will extend to two or three co-
lumns.]
COUNTY OF LIMERICK—ATTACK ON KIL-
BALLYOWEN HOUSE.
The Limerick Chronicle contains the following:—" On
Sunday morning last, between the hours of two and three
o'clock, Kilballyowen House, the family seat of The
O'Grady, was visited by an armed gang of incendiaries,
who posted a Rockite notice on the entrance, and fired a
shot through his ball door, which perforated the curtain
drapery, and struck the opposite wall, after which the
ruffians departed, firing a second shot, but not daring to
force an entry into the mansion. This violent outrage
was committed in the centre of a populous and cultivated
district, near the town of Bruff, and in the neighbour-.
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"In the large circle of the resident landed gentry of this
extensive county, there is not one who could be deemed
less obnoxious than The O'Grady, for he is not only a
considerable proprietor, who gives constant employment
to upwards of 100 men in the year, but also a most indul-
gent, encouraging landlord, whose farms in the most
fertile portion of that district, are let upon fair and mo-
derate rents, to a respectable and comfortable tenantry.
It is, however, conjectured that a property of the late
Mr. Wise, of Cork, recently out of lease, has occasioned
this revolutionary symptom. The O'Grady has offered
a reward of 50L for discovery and conviction of the mid-
night gang implicated in this outrage ' • and we confi-
dently trust that the Government and the magistrates of
the Limerick district, who are to meet on Saturday next
at the county Court-house, will not be tardy or negli-1
gent in the discharge of an important duty at this crisis."

" Your memorialists, therefore, entreat that the Board
of Irish Charities may be rendered more generally use-
ful and popular, by the introduction to it of Roman Ca-
tholic Commissioners, or by some other measure which
may have a tendency to place their charities on the same
footing as those of their Protestant fellow-countrymen."
It is quite true that we have got the Roman Catholic
Commissioners ; but those Roman Catholic Commis-
sioners do not place Catholic charities on the same foot-
ing as those of their Protestant fellow-countrymen.
There is no equality among the Commissioners. There
is a decided majority of Protestants. Eight Protestants
and five Catholics cannot be said, with any arithmetical
accuracy, to be on an equal footing. Ilow can it be said
that the charities are on the same footing. when there is
so decided a majority on the ono side, and so decided a
minority on the other ?
If five be equal to eight, then indeed the Catholic
and Protestant Commissioners are on the same footing ;
otherwise, not. In plain truth, the placing some Ca-
tholic Commissioners on the Board, renders the Catholic
inferiority on the one hand, and the Protestant supre-
macy on the other hand, more distinct, conspicuous,
and emphatic.
I could say more upon this comparative estimate being
deemed as if the Catholics had obtained the " same
footing"—but I shudder lest I should let fall one single
word which might be construed into disrespect to his
Grace the Arcbishop. I therefore leave many, many
objections unstated. I have, however, shown that the
timid memorial of 1840 asked but for little indeed, and
that even such little has not been obtained by the Be-
quests Act.

So much for the first advantage alleged to be obtained
by that Act. I come to the second and only remaining
one.

Secondly.—(l repeat once more his Grace's words :
"It gives us the power of vesting property without
trouble or expense in perpetual security—for procuring
glebes for our clergy—and for building, enlarging, and
upholding our places of religious worship."
How I rejoice in being able to bear my humble testi-
mony as a lawyer to the legal accuracy of the pastoral
when it does state the law accurately ! The latter part
of the sentence does so perfectly.
It shows, however, that the only Catholic charities
which are capable, by the Bequests Act, to be vested in
the Commissioners according to the 15th section—the

enabling section—are two, and no more.
First.—For procuring glebes, including residences for
our clergy ; and, secondly, for the building, enlarging,
and maintaining our places of worship,'
Now, these were all perfectly valid charities before
the passing of the Bequests Act. All that Act does in
this respect is to enable these two charities to be vested

in the Board of Commissioner& Before that Act, and
at present, and in all future time, totally independent et'
the " Bequests Act," these identical charities could and

can be vested in trustees of the party's own choosing, and
that in perpetual and perfect security.
All the Act does is to enable a Catholic donor to

vest such charities as the above two, but no other, in the

Board of Commissioners, eight of whom out of thirteen
are Protestants, instead of vesting them in trustees all
Catholics, if ho likes. The Bequests Act gives him that
choice. He may choose the Protestant majority Board
of Commissioners if he pleases, in preference to Catholic
trustees. I venture, with respect for his Grace, to think
that few Catholics, if any, will be foundto make such a
choice.
But the pastoral tells us that the " Bequests Act"
enables Catholics to vest these two charities in the
Board of Commissioners without trouble or expense in

perpetual security.
There is no explanation given how the" expense and
trouble" are to be avoided, or how the " perpetual se-
curity" is to be achieved. Not the least. I cannot con-

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SERIOUS MILITARY Row.—The Limerick
I contains the following curious statement :--" The sergeants
of the 73d entertained the sergeants of the 6th on their ar-
rival in Dublin from Chester, for which the latter resolved
to return the compliment, and at Christmas both parties
met at dinner. All went on happily until the spirit of
the company rose to an extraordinary pitch. A scuffle
ensued, and the officer on guard felt it necessary to
report the circumstances to Colonel Bunbury, of the
67th, who at once ordered the bugle to sound for turn
out.' The great body of the troops answered to the
call, and a party was ordered to the scene of V!e riot and
to take the sergeants into custody. As soon as they
perceived the guard the sergeants of both corps seized
hold of pokers, bottles, chairs, and stood upon the de-
fensive, threatening death and demolition to the first
who approached. Officers came forward and remon-
strated with the rioters, who were taken into custody,
but not without inflicting some blows on the officers and
men. The colonel of the 67th received a blow of a stone
An investigation was held next day by the General, and
the men admitted their error' (?) but protested that the
Irish whiskey had taken away their senses. The colonel
interceded for them, and after a lecture on their con-
duct, they were permitted to return, with a warning
against whiskey."

THE BISHOP OF EXETER AND
HIS DIOCESE.
PLYMOUTH, JAN. 9.—The feeling which exists in the
minds of the laity of Plymouth, Stonehouse, and De-
vonport, against the changes which have been introduced
in the ceremonial of the service of the Church is, if any-
thing, stronger then amongst the laity of Exeter.
From circumstances—from many of the church-goers
here having been won from the ranks of the Dissenters
by the erection of proprietary churches, and from tue
churches being generally supported by the letting of
pews, a teeliag of independence and voluntaryism (if I
may use the word) strongly pervades many of the laity;
and the clergy, with but one or two excevions, ere
what are termed Low Church" in doctrine, but are ge-
nerally popular, and allied in feeling with the laity.
With a clergy and a laity holding such opinions, it
may well be conceived that the recent innovations in the
Church service are viewed with dislike and distrust., and
with much jealousy of their ultimate object.
Immediately after the publication of the pastoral letter
of the Bisnop, enjoining the observance of the obnoxious
changes, and an exact fulfilment of the rubrics, a public
meeting of the inhabitants of Plymouth was held at the
Royal Hotel, at which resolutions expressive of attach-
ment to the Church, but of " alarm and disgust at the
recent attempts at innovation in its ceremonial, the ten-
dency of which they believed to be an approximation to
the obnoxious practices of the Church of Rome," were
passed. This meeting was followed by vestry meetings
iu the different parishes, at which similar resolutions
were agreed to. Similar meetings were also held at
Devonport, at all of which the same strong feeling of
determined resistance to the introduction of these inno-
vations was expressed.
About the same time a meeting of the clergy of the
deanery of Plympton was held, for the purpose of re-
ceiving the pastoral letter of the Bishop. Those of the
clergy in that division of the diocese who were inclined
to the doctrines of the innovators wished that some ar-
rangement should be immediately entered into, for the
purpose of the general and immediate adoption of the
surplice, and for complying with the wishes of the Bishop.
On the other side, the clergy opposed to these changes
wished for delay, in the hope and expectation that souse
alteration would take place in the order of the Bishop ;
and by a majority of four or five the consideration of
the pastoral letter was postponed till Tuesday last, the
7th instant.
On Tuesday the clergy of the deanery of Plympton
again met at the George Inn, Ridgway ; the Rev. John
Allen, rector of North Iluish, Rural Dean, in the chair.
Twenty-seven of the clergy of the deanery were present.
A series of resolutions ware proposed by the Rev. W.
Coppard, of the parish of Plympton, embodying—first,
an expression of respect fur the episcopal office, with an
earnest desire to comply, as far as possible, with all the
lawful injunctions of the diocesan ; and, secondly, that
in consideration of the aspect of the times, and in anti-
cipation of some measures being brought before them
from authority, it be respectfully urged upon the Bishop
to allow the clergy of the deanery to exercise their own
discretion with regard to the use of the rubrics, assuring
his Lordship that they would adhere to them as strictly
as they felt themselves empowered to do.
To these resolutions an amendment was proposed by
the Rev. William Oxenham, vicar of Modbury, to the
effect that the thanks of the clergy of the deanery be
presented to the Bishop for his recent pastoral letter,
with the expression of their determination to render im-
plicit obedience to all his Lordship's commands, in con-
sideration of the solemnity of their ordination vows and
oaths ; and further expressing the dissatisfaction felt by
the clergy at the course pursued by the laity during the
recent agitation.
A conversation on the resolutions and amendment
then ensued, of several hours' duration, in which the
Rev. John Hatchard, vicar of St. Andrew's, Plymouth ;
the Rev. G. F. Wedbaurne, of Charles Chapel, Ply-
mouth ; the Rev. John Child, minister of St. Paul's,
Stonehouse ; the Rev. H. G. Greaves, minister of SL
George's, Stonehouse, and several ether clergymen,
spoke in favour of the resolutions.
The Rev. E. F. Coke, of Plymstock ; the Rev. J. C.
Street, curate of Charles, Plymouth, and others, sup-
ported the amendment.
'the Rev. Mr. llA'rettAan said, that he felt it was
utterly impossible for him, as a man of common hi
tegrity, to render thanks to the Bishop of Exeter for
his pastoral letter, the effect of which had been almost
to rend the Church asunder, and to produce the most
serious and detrimental cou.equences to her best in-
terests. He at the same time stated his conviction
that his Lordship was influenced by the best and
purest intentions, although it was perfectly manifest
from the result that he had fallen into a gri,:youy
error With regard to obedience to his diocesan, he
could confidently appeal to all his brethteti by whom
he was surrounded that he ever had made it, and ever
would make it., his great übjea to obey every godly ad-
monition, and every lawful and ghostly command. He
strongly deprecated the enforcement of nil the rubrical
laws, inasmuch as he conceived the tendency of some of
them to be to restore Popish practices, and to give deep
offence to the groat body of the laity, who constituted
that Church of which the clergy were the ministers. If
the rubrics were to be restored, it seemed to him to be
inconsistent to restore them in part and not as a whole ;
for it must be borne in mind that there were many
rubrics which still formed part of the laws of the Church
of England, which were not printed in the Common
Prayer-book, but which would be found at full length in
" Gibson's Codex." In illustrating his views of the
Popish tendency of these rubrics, the Rev. Gentleman
particularly referred to the use of the alb, and cope, and
tunicle, by the clergy in the discharge of their official
duties. With regard to the course pursued by the laity,
while he by no means attempted to vindicate every ex-
pression that might have been used, or every resolution
that had been passed, at the various meetings which
had been held, he yet most heartily thanked God that
so wide-spread a Protestant feeling had burst forth; and
he felt assured that 50 years hence those who would suc-
ceed them would look back with feelings of thankfulness
to the great efforts which had been made by the laity
generally.
A number of the clergy present briefly expressed simi-
lar views.
The Rev. W. OXENHAM addressed himself chiefly in
reply to the observations of Mr. Ilatchard. He strongly
urged that the resolutions did not go far enough, parti-
cularly on the point of clerical obedience.
The meeting throughout was of the most stormy
character. On both sides very strong expressions were
used, which in some instances partook of acrimonious
personality. Charges of leaning to Calvinism and
Dissent were made against some, and of Romish views
against others.

_
At length a division took place on the resolutions,
the numbers being—for the resolutions 15, for the
amendment 12.

It was then determined to hold a third meeting on
Monday, the 10th of February next, for the purpose of
comparing notes as to the extent to which the rubrics
are observed or negleeted in the different churches and
chapels of the deanery; and also in the expectation
that by that time some notice may have been given in
Parliament of what is intended on the whole question,
from which the clergy may be enabled to draw some
conclusions.

' In the meantime no changes whatever have taken
place in the service as performed in the churches in the
deanery.
' The above brief report gives an outline of the feeling
Of the clergy in this deanery.
• but from past experience they dunk him
sagacious man; the feeling is sho l shortly this_
theyW iltohokreguaprodn to the
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insincere, and distrust him. They suspect him of a covert
design in introducing these changes, to increase his own
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rpTuohlee. yeorvsuspect
flmhui iemnndcosef,o f the people (to adopt the expres-
sion of one informant), "for every bishop in his diocese,
for every rector in his parish, and fur every curate at
tea-party." " Since the com[u(ncement of the contro-
versy, the clergy in various places had ceased to use the
black gown, and had adopted the surplice in preaching,
with a view, he believed,coneurrently with the operation
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the tenets of Rome, and acknowledging papal supremacy;
but by whatever name you call it, what we I,re afraid of
is, the attempted establishment of priestly domination,
the aggrossive graspings of power and inikence by the
clergy; and these we are determined we will nut submit
to. Your ceremonies are meant to abuse anil influence
the minds of the laity to your authcnty; your offertory
collections are meant to give you power by placing un-
controlled in your hands the means of carrying out any
object you may will, even in direct opposition to our
feelings. We distrust you, and we are determined we
will have none of these changes." Such, in a few words
may be said to be the feelings of the laity.
So far is this suspicion and belief of a covert design to
grasp at power on the part of the Bishop generally
entertained, that the churchwardens of the Several
parishes of the deanery of Kirrier, in Cornwall, at a
meeting held at HeLston, on the 23d of last month,
amongst ethers adopted the following resolution:—
"5. That, in the opinion of this meeting, the neces-
sity for episcopal interference in the preeent case (If
such there be) has been created by the Bishop of the
diocese himself, who has privately encouraged several of
hiscl
ergy
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his authoriiy. And this meeting is moreover of opiniu
that the Bishop was well aware that, such illlloVat,