The Sun.
London, England, 1819-01-26 00:00:00

DR. HALLORAN.

Ur. BBNNET had a Petitioc to present from
Dr. Halloran, who complained ot having, in the
first instance, been-subjected to many hardships,
and ot having subsequently IP.en treated with
cruelty. On the first subject be believed t bele
was but one opinion. • 'Every Due considered the
punishment of seven years' trarsportation for' the
offence of which he had been guilty, to be on..
that was uncalled for by the cr we. If he (Mr
Bennet) were rightly into, med, thsis was tine

case in which that punishment had been awateled
for such en offence. .He had been told that it
was so, and he had also been told that Dr. Hal-
loran was a man of very questionable character.
But of this there had 'been no legal proof. It
appeared,' hots/ever, that he had been punished
for his bad character, not for his et brie—not for
that which was proved, but for that of which
there was no legal proof. Ile did not stand tip
fur the character of Dr. Halloran, but having
seen him in great bodily torture—knowing hint
to be a man of considerable literary acquire-
ments—to he considerably advanced iu life, with
a large family, he thought his case one that
ought not to be passed over in silence, and
he trusted satisfactory explanations would be
given by Ministers onnithose topics connected with
his complaints. The punishment to which he had
been sentenced was, in his opinion, so severe,
that had it been generally known such punish-
ment would be inflicted for the offence with which
be had been charged, he firmly b:lieved the Jury
(acting as they had done in other cases) would
'lever have given a verdict of guilty against hint.
De. Hal lot an complained that lie had first been
sent to cold-bath-fields, where he was confined
with felons. Thence he was transferred to New-
gate, where he was confined in the condemned
cells with forty boys. He (Mr. Bennet) had seen
him there. From the condemned cells he was
removed to the Hospital, and confined among the
sick convicts, and he was allowed to go there as
to a refuge from greater misery. There were in ,
the City some active Magistrates who did their
ditty by making frequent inquiries into the state of
Newgate, but notwithstanding all their effnrts,
such 'vas the punishment inflicted before trial.—
In order to give some notion of the state of that
prison, he would state that the 16 miscreants,
lately convicted of art abominable offeuce, were
there confined in one room. He bad seen them
altogether on the preceding day. Netvgate was !
so crowded that this was unavoidable,. When in
a prison there was Bo discipline, it was nut to be
wondered at that crime should increase. Front I
Neivgate Dr. Halloran was removed to the Akin-
-2o transport, where he was well treated. Thence,
thongh labouring under a complaint to which Ire ;
had beau sithiact for some years, he was conveyed
to a cabin on hoard the Diana, about terelve feet
square ; here lie remained nineteen hours without
any one coining to him, and when at last he ap- I
plied for some refreshment, ten ounces of biscuit. 1
ten of flour, three of suet, three of raisins, and
some soup, were sent to him. This was the fare
provided for a sick man. lie was told that he
should not be coninel•led to associaie with the
common felons, but in a few days nineteen youth-
ful felons were brought there and confined in the ;
same cabin, or hole, or dungeon as it ought rather
to be called. He had seen with his own eyes,
that. no doubt could remain, twenty human beings
were confined in a place twelve feet square. lie
had seen too a clib, five feet and a halt in length,
and six feet and a halt wide; in which six human
beings were stowed away to sleep. In this place
they were compelled to sleep, so crowded, (teat
it was impossible for them to torts themselves
round, and here Dr. Halloran witnessed one of
those disgusting and abominable scenes which
sometimes disgrace humanity. He made a coin-
plaint to the Cap•ain, but was treated with the
utmost meovset r
yco rstit;ci,crni
species
' ofa and this
tahg.sati It'heexaPb°a7l:lloiliii:4l
wretches who surrounded him could inflict. Ile bad
sent a statement of that which he bad seen to Lord
and tendered evidence of the fact. (
thence he had tendered. Lord Sidmooth, in con-
SaWiJ:ltelril°yl,letlll.l)e' thatwa se notvide Ilce
lawyerva was
enough,s "hatso"s. :t'y",litiZ
sequence of this letter, had sent down Mr. Capper,
a very active and meritorious person, to inquire,
into the actual state of things, and must therefore
have been acquainted with the situation of the
persons nfi
wereco
• Bennet) had
yroteutilthist.l tloienceabbitosiLlN. Most,. of the fe-
lonsseen before in Newgate. It u his first offence,
for which he was about to suffer, and that not a
very aggravated one ; yet this poor Creature was
destined to form a part of that den which it was
the pleasure of Goverment to establish. He
knew where from two to three liimdred were
stowed away in a similar manner. lie had been
there in the middle of the day, about three o'clock,
butt was obliged to have a light. What he had
seen there he should never forget. The sufferings
of the wretches be had seen was, in his opinion,
a disgrace to any Christian country—a disgrace to
any Government calling itself civilized. When
the ship thus crowded had sailed, and. haul nearly
been lost on a bank, such a horrible sickness haul
prevailed in the cabin that those stowed at its
bottom had been overwhelmed by its falling- on
them like a torrent. Such a state of confinement,
he contended, insist be most injurious to the morals
as well as to the health of the prisoners ; and he
would leave the House to judge bow deplorable
their state was, shut.down as they were for 15 out
of the four and twenty hours. When he thought
of what he had seen in this white slave ship, it
made him remenifier (tie paper which he had seen
at Paris, and which had made so great an impres-
sion there, and indeed all over Europe. in this.
it was shown, that in a slave ship, a place six
feet long, and one foot six inches Wide, was all
the space allotted for an African. This he be-
lieved had made a greater impression in favour of
the Abolition of the Slave Trade than any thing
else that bad appeared; but while the black
slave was allowed one foot six inches, the white
slave, it appeared, at the present day, was a:low-
' ed but one toot one. After this 'statement, Ire
supposed he should be met with panegyrics out
character as heretofore, and that all he had said
'mold be supposed to be answered by a re-
, ference to the hontani,y of the Noble Lurch at
the head of the Home Department. There
was, however, no person who did not know,
that when it had hero Wade knoWll to the
Noble bad u hat was the situation of the
ship—to his disgrace she was snlfered to sail. He
pledged-himselt toy the e.oreettlebs Of the descrip-
tion of the mantic! in Aich the white slaves were
confiaed boare. He did not know that the
Noble Loid %oik he proved guilty of anything
that wool(' snit with its indignation ;
•h,t , (-omit!), would led what was the

ci4.tcicicr ut his conduct. One word wore.
be ship had sailed at a period which bad before

l_ieeo romplainel of- a period most-
lilt
ar
yiSeeu;rrrc,ely.el,l:::v Ibli,i),cist:)(:s:fiolieicrit
he attended with the. greatest mortali y• 11,1116
Out of two bombed, fifty had alied. St3ti,ll,
these facts, he conceived that he had done ••-e
more than his duty. Ile did not stand op (herd
to; hie}ersCitelewLeriroiTi:olt
ticr cargo—of homan beings'
to shield crime from punishment, bat to den/311G
that jtitstice should be admittistered in A wAY 1°
calculated to make human beings worse, end sen,t
t'
them to another world with more dePravltY th4tl
they had ever evinced in this. He then resale.
the Petitioo.—Before it had been read,
Mr. BAT- HURST said be. did not wish- t° nilP6si.
the Petition, but he thnit,,,ht it not to 1°,!e„61
moment in replying to the charges' which had ue)
preferred against the head of the Home Peill;
meot. He (Lord 81(11110010 was chaeged wita
situation of high responsibility, and lie hopetitAl7l;
House would never lose sight of the arduous "14
ties which he had to perform. It was inightYCh3-,t
or Gentlemen to prefer such charges as tliese'l,l
it was not tplite so easy for the parts' attach lI
.6ill),tobeet(ll,l:::ser(i
tit 0
fit is, ation• i
dill not
in visiting those receptacles of misery
so frequently explored, and he had ate" gilt°.
I►im credit for his exertions, but it would be bo.
conceal his thoughts if be were not to s th,trai
was of opinion the lion. Gentleman sonletr td
lent himself to those whose statements ong,j(,l
have no weight wit lain), and adopted too fnuelirliel
views 01 men of bad character, believing the st°,—,o
they told him without sufficiently ingoiring 1:01
their tent it. If he were to go into the 1000000 f
tt
the "ni"rinate mot whose Petition was 11.0
abont to he- presented, he could prove tit 0 he ~ni
no object of For many reasons he ei 41(7el
not go into his history, and no reason
mote with him than this, that 'such a ste'el:(oo,
might be injurious to his family, solve Of 'v.( 'ft
filled respectable situations in life. Ile, Ito`celetil/L
could not. help stating,nhat if all the prol 'l.° 141
been brought ward that might have bee" %,.:01c
against him, it would have been seen that
Ire forged enclosed a forged character of b'll:.006
in which he recommended himself, wiiig the4„..0.•
of a person not alive, to a Curacy in the
~It'`
hoping by this expedient to secure to hin'`:,,rd''
comfortable sit ua ion. if the puniShnient a 0,0
ed to his crime by the law teas too great' isle
a fit subject for the consicleratiou of the
titre; but whem
applicationwas made for tile Lija
the character of the indiv-ultial was Oleo Onot
considered, in order to deterntine %A' b ether 0r,,,
he was a fit object for clemency. The I,,lpeti
Gentleman argued fallaciously when he C°' ha'
that Dr. Halloran was punished for his b3d
ys
racier and not for his criine. This could 11 “:-not
proved till it had bet n shevert that a taw„ll
exist to ittflict the punishment to which he 1
ot
been settleuced. vvere not proved, lie For
chew that Halloran was an object for nierC
his part, he would contend that, there 10"1 dcor
,ii,
.
shewn no reason for extendiog mercy to ,"06e
I,t Nrg
The lion. Gentleman reprobated th(ise
doty,it was to see the law calf-jet) into etiect• ,har
true charge, however, seas against ti OSe tsic
m
Superintended the present otte..cd ltrana
,would believe all that the /lon. efe(ntleio')
1
bad asserted that he himself had seen', but of.
rest he should doubt. The charge was in a gee
degree against the punishment of transportslll):;'
altogether. He did not think that the 1,r`1,15
portant») of this individual any diffetence eon
made between him and others who) had lately
btl its
transported. He was apt, of any
the construction of the shp or in the tieco:noi);,,a
tion on board, from what had beeti.
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Officer was one of the R 11
,loyal Navv, 8"Ir
r
seemed tO promise improveiaent, rather )enlsac
otherwise, in the ltoprovements on bowl. c"
teen the Honourable Gentleman had seen
commodation was too good, and this c1,01,0t
upon the Fle!3il of the Department. N'"71.11s:01",
did the Hon. Gentleman say this subject ) oot
that a complaint having been forevatdetintl
lel!
1:3
Sidmoutit, lie immediately sent down
man who had been most deserve:lly [Pc
who was at present the Superitoendant
sor•
hulks. This Gentleman totind many of thjeope•
gat ions contained in the statement 01. Dr' bittr:
ran unfounded. The sittiation of that hers Eft, hot'
self turned out to be different trout .what
represented it to be. For the horrible 'l'd uric
stance which had been alluded to, it Iniiletiliti
to be utterly impossible for the crime desellic :Ott'
have been committed at the tittle and inutiji;oolll
ation poioted out in the petition of 1)r. er,ool
It -is clear that it was the object ot this Pleitasti
nay, hue might add, of the Honourable Gellit;el
himself, to prevent the punishment
had been settle iced from being intlijc,cl:, tini,l
to vv 'for
this, the statement of his ill health, on" ''•-,I•one"
of the abominable transoctiou before
had been sent forth, and both proved be eat,
If Mr. Capper had had tiny doubt on the sujosti•
an inquiry wonld immediately bare bcg" Pr°'
tilted ; but as it WaS found that it was 0 pie
fr
babic nor possible that the assertion of pr",filer'
loran could be trite, the matter went it° 1111,11 o
lie doitlited not that a threat hail been his
by this person to those, appointed to. earrloriti
sentence into execution--" I have a Gentle° Or'
the House of Colninons Who tiOt let 111i9110a
nisilltlent he itiflicted." Personal thireBts 110%0'6
been held out to the Captain, of what
Teti to hint if he did that which it might ---nee'"
his duty to do. if any restraint should be it", 401/
upon hint on the voyage, it would not be. be".,i,e'
there Was a disposition to treat hint With 15;10:4
city; but because his conduct, flu"' litlX°
etreottraged to hope that by repeated coIOP
he might get the ship stopped, 0101 I°9: Pr;
tiOn itt.ute less illtionie, rio'y make OW- tilt,
titer restrictions neces6aty. For the 9hips,
it ere of the listial Whet) a compatisol; it
made between these and the slave shici:ti,f
might to be remembered, that no 511)811:tiai
was Made to the horrors of the poor Afnc-1,11001r)'
front the eirennisiance of his being,;'%te):
ed dowo to his hit tit doring‘the whole Oita:ll,K;
age. Any system of transportation 5 innst:
lbe convicts to certain privations. if '(enc°
co itended that these might not In be exf,ell.., 0111
by a Geotleman who. bad not been 10°,1 „it Ire
thing of the kind, it would follow
puuishment of transportation ought nit

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!u1" Persons in a better situation of life,ass whateke-r
eir crimes, nwriit not to he punished in dot
\VII ,
1 WayY• At present no pririn facie caie or harils.hip
!, !Nile out ; he did not say the Petition, wile"
le"l, woold not prove the case one that would
)Zl,l,,:llP°° the House to inquile minutely into its
-,-."tB, bla at present nothing appeared to prove
il:at Dr. Halloran had been improperly treated,.
,1 the Noble Lord at the head of the Home De-
i; rtttnent deserved as the Hon.-Gentleman seemed
'(:' think, the censure of the House, let it be pass-
! etki g a i n st him, bin let it not in the first instance
PPosed that he lutist he guilty. because
hishe
‘,141°4 in a responsible situation, which made it
Nisi In
•Illai 10 see the law executed. The Hon. Gentle-
-I,4otip.was ever on the alert to collect such charges.
1
Person was in Newgate who could not, ant!
,mist[
!night almost say who did not, correspond
""11 the Hononrable. Gentleman. On board the
'lllitil he had met with a person whom he had
hl
before in Newgate. M .king in this way
11; extensive acquaintance, he to,k op every caste
14)1 w4s iMposed no him, and spared no pai
.n.
lior,l:4t it, and make it appear entitled to attest-
tat 11, Hon. NIEMBErt under the gallery was
.r„,ti
• er,ined with the manner in which it "PraT
.v 7,,,
bite
'-`3 t11t! carried Out of the country.
.4;tissPiortation of each individual cost the col!.mi-,
11 QC' and, after the shocking statement
hound%%,,lc
to'eet:(;)"se lead heard, he thought they were
Nir el,vonr to supply a ternedy to the.. ce11..11
Par' (-Ltve stated the ship to base t_Hc
.ts
,re-
inlet)tlo the usual way, to carry out the convtc .
I •
tl4 "co not the truth of rr bat the Hon. Gee-
s)„ 1)1 84h1 he bad seen ; but the duty of prepk..cro
by lire
hail for sonic time been undertaken
Yeati)- "alrY Board. One ship that went out last
'irk's with 300 persons on board, had only two
..th
"Ilhe vo - , Another, that went not e'.l
I.11:° l''
' )I'..e.
away; two (bed.
1 '' "ne sick and one tun
ti
.
i e trans-
)4)2; °.ss sustained on the everage, -fl , in a
Inituah,tl;:lll of convicts, did not exceed two
Sir j•
htti i • MAcKINTOSII said, the most iinporttt
i)f Saar 'ad not be; 1.1 denied by the Under Secretary
tot
II ~Itt)ate, nor by tiie Right lion. Gentlemit„ilhve
for
, II Co'rptlit Wiiel) Ministers were going
ton
the Pri-
an 'flitter! to inquire ioto the state of
111 4"• • -whirl, had long been
ta.q.,l i Shore, a motion
• rider
that 11 'r try the nation, lie eenld not but vr,(.%
ns
4' `sae"itonstruction and tti,eipline of the 1. i Ilose
h'i;r sit°llltl he sn coolly passed over byiolos.e.
SI),I, el'resemed the Go, ernmeot in that 11
as
,e
it w
Plhi„ ,utterference was called for, as a
ti - toat o • the: prisons on shore,
.tiu)sh -Jere, as 111 I
Itiet lillent beyood the law was frequently in-
t alt: Ile k;,,,,,, nothing; of Dr. Hailoran, but
a..
ter' re'rtil that he was punished for his chairl•icot
)114; "41
Ills character been good, he word(
.•'.iit I,l"'n ~..„ 13,,,a„y Bay. lie had heard,
i)til(.11 t‘rit'l, vt tohotice had been given that e",")
thei rage,!, '
„ 4 I;lopeatirt Ministers were about
itsoidelr
1.:1,: tc,}l,',ltY,. by ediii.n,z, on the. House to cot
,ishinetiPs at present
Illtsst(lto'er of the 1"1.1'e had hoped that
bt.f,o4),,ttatl inflicted. 1.
''t uh, . .ti of crime, unexampled, he
il'irli4-'tl'i ill.l)::itliter country, which had been
i'''' ''Se'''il any
1 within the last few years,
arii},`; 'lt
Je'''ll
i 'l-*r'")
d a n te
the attention of Ministers,
11'• 144' vall,.,es:' . eyions to put a slop to its
iie ":..e• I.l‘fe• were
he Lad heard that eight,
-tl4lll\:)l.e'i'nroll:7 the hone he had cherished. He
.•lis 1,11:,t•1lit 1"1s.
Noble Lord meant to take up
)• I"Ject, the
,:) :„,;(te„t,,lly to inquile low the
41,1`):f hi i,- 8'
,1::' prole ; but the 'reverse of dill
tlie'lll''''s'o(':l"!.'' 'preferred, and the revisal of
' 11)1) "h(11e1';i1 l'•;':' i, wa; to he. racked as a mere
' ai)r-.1!1.4.1' het,) I l',, '-•mt(i'Ll.ny into the state of tie P.ri"
41.6 if
such v'el.l.le-it he determination of Mints-
!, grounds absolved
fItItIti;11(:leelf:t':;1,:•111::la.itieceelo')fua sduicay, howeverrai,,i):,lll,
hit,;'4.:le ioni previously thought ot, taking ,
Alr .1.
've,,'-'4AwS4U said, it had been inqnired wiiiteiri:an,
ti,t4lol4ati7u)„f the state of the jai's on l'',,,
......
reil l'ie, why should not the Inea,.nre t. • rx
lii(rt.r. liar!
Ih.) the j;ils.. at sea % lie would point out the...
ttnee en.l'e• lite jails' on land received triatity,citii_e
414 I,
- lielsons—none but the condemned
(41 tilt) bthe jails at sea. The punishment it ,
„ii4pree,sui leks in the slave ships. had made a great
iltted. " n 1 JS,,,rope, because it was unjustlyci...-
ftren ' 1" the case of the Whites it was trrt.
,theirationt-- sufferings were merited. Transpoo.
bisiii ' as to he remembered, was the next pwe
nent t
code. In4de d 1 ° death. 4""w" iii our
cto make
trailst eat-) transportation, were we then
tiit if 11. something rise It was contended.t
iea.-I'di"F"S WRS endured in jails on land,
toneh w . „ why, then, he
it mos
,111011 hi L "rse in those at sta.
,Pavel- ask
people go to watering-places, and
li their homes for crowded lodging-horses,
1.1,1,°1 In enjoy the soft breeze of the sea ? He,
(s iti `441 never eotnniiited a crime in his life—i
1)441.1'01),s-be meant a penal crime (for he said
Iliikii.g °f original Si))), he hail been with his f• -
Ireejn ir°lll Dover to Calais, and there they had ,
couldgethiti to sleep in drawers, or any thing they
could
" themselves into, and the scenes about
tie. were as gross as any that had been described.
Nir:'B3 40pinion the character of an offender
'''t lolooked • ids sentence was
prono be into whet!
, "roper rlCed, as this went to give every one a
puo idea of the valise of character. For the
that of transportion, be had to remark,
ktatt If the convicts were alivays to be in that
tvoe,(4 bliss 111 which they left the prison, it
so4lletreettse to be a punishment. He had beard
is i . °[
them call out " that as it was now all the
solon . . .
toll, t° Visit foreign parts, they %vele going a
ititat the Kin ,'A 0( )e"Ce•..
167,...,',13U. XTONl'sa'id, 'the Hon. Gen. tleman seemed
1,4'4'4e no differeoce between Brighton and Bo-
liieYhillY• He tlioaglit the facts which hail this
tol, ' been stated furnished cogent reasons for
ivti!.ihto an inquiry on the subject.
tOl' LAW , •
i'll _
~SO., 111 rxplan,ation, stated his object
tNs_eye been to show, that passengers were. ex-
),,e I to the same miseries on their passage from
vo)iel. "is,l",Calas the convicts were on their
•,),'?ge fro, I) ' -Air. ~. n ortstuouth to Botany Bay. lectiyet9AßvLY showed, that if Marine prisons
tvt,o_ Only the condernued, they receivedrhose
Rod tbleit.°ftences were of a vet y different character,
43t cott:e Linglit to be a different klmeastirement
viquol"l Recording to the crimes of the inch-
‘413 %Nl'. ' i
alt,u (11;gilt subject them to the punish- i

rnent of seven or fourteen years, Or to exae for
life.

Mr. Itostti6Nl was far from disporting the im-
portance of the subject before the House, but he
did not think it brought forward in a way likely
to ensure it a fair discusSion. It had not been
expected that the Hon. Gentleman who presented
the Petition of Dr. Halloran would enter 'On the
whole merits and policy of the punishment of trans-
portivion. He saw no reason why this question
should not be referred to the Committee to be ap-
pointed to inquire into the discipline of prison.
Mr. BENN ET had not wished to enter ()Pon the.
general question of transportation. lie hail
only stated the mode in which convicts were
transported. He had heard of it some years
ago, but had determined to see the manner in which
they were treated with his own eyes. The Right
Hon. Gentleman tloaught it was his object to
pronounce a panegyric'on Dr. Halloran, and had
thrown out a sneer at the respect which he (Mr.
Bennet) was apt to pay to the statements of men
in his unhappy situation. This sneer came Well
tram a Governmeot who never took care of the
unhappy visoner—who had never looked to the
state of his place of confinement, and who had
thrown every-impediment in the way of those dis-
posed to institute such ioquity, and wbo lee
now believed to have only taken op the subject,
wh'en obliged by the voice of the public, in order
to defeat the object they professed to 'have in View.
lie had stated that 300 persons were stowed away
in one ship, and that six were crammed into cribs
five feet and a half in length. and six and a half
in breadth, and this one lion. Gentleman had
made a matter of joke. lie hail compared the
stare of these onhappy'beings thus confined for
six long months, and sailing on a stormy sea, to the
condition of those who pass a few hours in a
packet on the way front Cslais to Dover. lie had
seemed to have no feeling for the wretched lot
of human beings, three hundred of whom, con•
fined, tgbped up, and penned in, were scot, in
the way he had described, to tie antipodes, en-
during not only all sorts of bodily torture, hot
bearing with them all sorts of moral abominations
and vices.

The CHANCELLOR Of the BXCHEQUER hinired
the tonnage of the shit► the lion, Gtnt'email had
seen ?

My. BEN:stRT could not answcr'the question.
Alt. BATH U (IST said, all candour bad been
thrown aside 'or the sake of au rotack on the
head of the 1-lorne'D,partment. rn.e agent sent
down by the Noble Lot had been praised, kvbile
the principal vas censured. This conduct was
not consisteut with his ideas of candour.

BROUGHAM in it it was known that
but one loot unt is en breadth was allotted to
each man in the cribs ?

Mr, BATHURST would answer the question if he
could. But a Prtition was presented from Dr.
Halloran, this question rose out of it. Under
such circturstai;ces, it was utterly impossible for
hin► to say at the moment what were the dimen-
slows of the transport. .He. had had no notice of
the question, and no opportunity of giving his at-
tention to the subject.
Mr. llttoUnnAm'wished to know if this ship wits
in the.satue condition as all othersemployed in the
same wa.y ?
Mr. BATHU RST had no reason for believing that
it was otherwise. He I►a►lcrated that it was under
the superintendence of an officer of the Navy, and
was therefore likely ;o be rather better than worse.

Mr. DOUGLAS Said, s tact had been stated to
the [louse, that near 300 human beings had been
cooped tip in close and unhealthy cribs ;. and the
[tight lion. Gentleman opposite repelled this
statement only by noticing the incidental manner
iri which it had been brought forward. • The 15,1-
der Secretary of State for the Home Department
was not able to answer or speak to a fact of this
dreadful nature, although it was his duty to be
ready at all times to answer such complaints as
these. A Mr. Capper had been appointed as agent
to examine the hulks. Now, either Mr. Capper
did not make a report of the real state of the con-
vict ships, in ,‘ hich case the Home Secretary
must have heel, lett in ignorance on the subject,
or he did m:tke a report, and no pains were taken
to rectify ti:e abuses stated by him. Either he
bad not done his duty, or, in doing his duty, he
reported that six unfortunate men were comfined
in one small cr;h, and the Secretary took no no-
tire of that grievance.
A MeNtaeli, whose name we could not learn,
observed, that it had been clearly shown, that
convicts had been inhumanly put into transports;
without proper attention being paid to them.

Sir I AC COFFIN t►eclarecl, the be never heard
of any thing so scandalous as the manner in which
the convicts were represented as being stowed
together on board this ship. A pig-stye was a
comfortable place compared to one of the cribs
that h►►d been described.

Mr. BERNOL (the new Member for Lincoln)
observed, that this was no party question, but one
in which every Member of that House, as well as
the public at large, was deeply interested. He
wished to know if this ship had sailed ; and if
she had not yet sailed, he asked, was it not fit that
her voyage should be stopped ?
Mr. CLIVE said, that • I.ie believed the ship had
sailed. From the tat eSt accounts` received by him,
he was convinced that'she InuSt by ibis time have
proceeded some way upon her voyage. As to
what Ii id been said. of the treatment of Convictß,
he had only this to say,' that this ship' was fitted
out,and conducted in the same Manner as every pre-
ceding ship.—(Hear, hear ! and laughter atom
the Opposition.)—The Petition was than read.

Mr. BENNET then rose.and gave notice, that he
intended vet:), soon to hring'before the House a
!notion m hielv ' the dicussion of
the whole subject of transportation. On account
of the several important notices which had already
been given for eat Iv da)s, he could not now fix
the pteeise time at which he won'd bring for ard
that which he had mentioned.
The Petition was then ordered to be printed.
Lord ERRINGTON presenteil a Pefition.front the
wool -comhers Of Tiverton , pr.aying fo'r in alteration
of the'apprentice law. It was ordered to lie on
the table.