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London, England, 1810-01-26 00:00:00

REPORT;OF THE ADDRESS.

Lord BERNARD appeared at the Bar with the Re-
port of the Address. On the question, whether-or
not it should be brought up, .
Mr. MORRIS said,' he should On-thet-
lasdebate-
have endeavoured to do away 'an. impreisioh that
appeared to have been ,made on the House to the
prejudic'e of .Mr. Erskine, but the lateness- of the
hour to which ~the debate had been protraEled,
rendered him unwilling at that time to obtrude
himself On their notice.. It had:been,staled.b'y an
Hon. Geetleman opposite, that the dispatch laid
before the House on she Cad of _January, _was -the
only one that contained the conditions on which the
Non-Intercourse and Non-Inipoitation Mls were
tai be repealed. • He then underStOoti, that if the
`whole of the letters on'the subject ,had beendaid
before the House, they would- have-given no fur-
ther intotrnation on the subjeb: Of that,. how-
ever, he had now reason to 'dotibt. He did .not
know that the documents he alluded to contained
any thing,' the • exposure of could be detri.,
mental to the public service. He did not appre-
hend there could be, as Mr. , Erskine, in a public.
'letter to Mr.. Bmitb.; referred, to them without re-
serve. :Why were those documents witirbeld:ftiono
'Parliament', when the dispatch, was censmunicated
which would have enabled them to liavt thrtued
better judginent on the cooduCt
,of Mr. S;t•nitii, and
tie grounds on which be had aCted i Mr. Erskine,.
he contended, had adhered to the spirit, though-
not to 'the letter of his instructions: -The nature
of the American Constitution was such that he_
could not ad up to the letter. The more the sub-'
jeat was -.agitated, in the mere fave4,lo,le, light
would the conduct of Mr. Erskine be. placed, aq-
he was certain-it would be found, that -he had care-
fully adhered to the spirit of his instruiens, though
it had been found impraaicable
,to act .op- to; the
ktteref Ahem. /He- did' not say that Mr. Jackson
had asserted that Mr. Erskine was authorized to ex-
plain the cause of his Majesty's-disavowal of the ar-
rangement which lie had, for his own private rea-
sons withheld. This he was certain Mr. ErSkine
would never do. He never • would 'so far swerve
from his duty ; be had reasons rationally to eXpea
that the arrangement made -would have been.aa-
tisfadory. He' was wounded and mortified, 'no
doubt, to find hiistlf mistaken, but, froth -"rid
private consideration would he have withlieldany •_
planation that-he might have been instructed to offer.
Sir F. BURDETT said, he had attentively listened
to the Gentlemen who had.spoken in the last debate,
and he bad found with concern that though many
Of them were'ot opinion 'the disgraces and calami-
ties recently suffered were unexampled, yet that
circUrnstance had not made the4mpression on' their
minds which he thought' ,it.:oeght-to produce. - It
had not suggested to them the propriety of bring-
ing forward, eaily in the 'present Session, the ques-
tion whiCh lie had brought forward at ,the close of
,the last, on the subject of a Parliamentary Reform.
—The more he thought upon -the subject, the
More was 4e convinced of the propriety-and' necess
sity of' such a measure. It was impossible, to con-
cetVe a greater exhibition of political 'imbecility
than that which his Majesty's Ministers, had dis-
played. He did not mean anything persenallyhos-
tile to, them ; all he had at heart was the good of
-the-country. He •bad not had the satistaCtion
of
finding that they had taken -those prudential men-
sures which it, might be expeaecl would -ward off ",
inteinal,danger,and unite the people its the Stitggle
which they were expetted to support. He hbped
he shnuld not find that the G&ltlemen who were
regarded as the Opposition,. had abandoned :the.
Idea of striking at the root of those disasters which
had so much humbled our glory, and which
exist-
ed 'iti the 'grievances and corruptions that had found
their way into that House. How, under the pre-;
sent circumstances (or :indeed wider any circum-t
stances),. Ministers could be so rash as to involve his
Majesty in a struggle with the City of London,:
which-on 'every account was SO, much entitled to-
esteem and -indulgence,: whether its ccituage or its
firmness, its loyalty or its liberality, were taken.;
into consideration, he was at a loss to account. To;
compel them.thus to enter into a struggle for their#
undisputed rights was injudicious in the extreme.
Why should not his Majesty receive on the Thionei.
the loyal effusions of his people ? When he 'con-
sidered the line of condutt invariably pursued -by{
the City of London, from the time of Williath the'
Conqueror, to the Reign of William the- EL'
and from 'that period to the present iime, -he
not but' feel for them the'llighcst sentiments of re-
spea and admiration-.' Why they should .he
,gaged in so useless a struggle he was at a loss to'
conceive., They ought not surely . at such a period
to be deprived- of ,any of their franchises. The,
condud of 'Ministers iii thus blocking up:the high
road to the Throne, formed a just ground . for
an impeachment . of their conduct. And on
what occasion had this step-been taken? What
dangerous- encroachtnent had been attempted,
Which , rendered such a -measure expedient ?
Why, the people had merely claimed a 'right
to.
,Petitioning - the Throne, which till now had ,
ever been encouraged even by the -moat des--
potic Monarchs. The King's Speech, he said, it had I
been customary to print and circulate among the
Members on the night before the • -Meeting of Par-
liarnent. Why' was that praetice discentinted
Why were they: .kept ignorant of the purport of it
till it was read to theM on the opening of the Ses.-
sion ? He wished tocall the attention of the House'
to the scandalous Chelsea joh; for such he mtiSteVer
consider it to be. When he broUght forward. that
Subject last Session, lie thought it 'probable that
!sisters were not acquainted with all the cireurisian-
ces.attending the grant ; and he thought, that leav-
leg things-as he did, -he-left them a :fay and,honour-
able retreat. What bad been the consequences. ,
this conduct on his' part ? Why, a short rune
fore 'the-- meeting-of that House the job 'had been '
_completed. The circumstances': attending this part
of their conduct he should again- take an opportunity
of Oringjng before the House. 'The King's Spe.:ch
he..thought;yery deteCtive•. It ought to be a clear
and satisfactory exposition • of the situariOn of *the .
country. -It ought not to,be'a milk and Walercom
position,- merely. 61,1.iig:tottii coMplimetus, but it
.ought to-be of such- a nature, as- to call furth '(on
geod
,aounclS) the, paort of the Public. It entirely

omitted to speak of the atttirs of Indio, It might
be said • that. Goverwient had nothing to do with
'them; as•they:welrM,. -der th .controul of a COm-
• party. But this reaso ing_he cc uld not ad-
mit.' if their pessessims w endangered, if we:s
then thought to tie-ii7ational, • Speeitine Of
.0
the late transaCtion's, little could be said in a strain of
exultation. One passage in ill?: Speech, it might be
. propriety, haddi t Ile- •to•do with the -Ceun-- •-
cils ofthenation.-1 It had of late been a ,constant
praetiee to recoinmeird'the poor clergy to the notice
of Parliament.--It would better become who-'
had suggested it to take care of their ownpoor; for
his:Part:he WOuld,neVei con sent in the present. state
of things to extract one addithinal sixpence from.tlire.
.1-lard earnings of heoesty. Wit h,respea to t. he.Expe,
ditions,amat ked absurdity so decidedly distinguished
the conduct of Ministers in their measures;: as, taras
it related to themi, that :rio.loCal knoetledge; 'ri6
litary authority was necessary to decide on their
merits. Of the .disgracefUl Expedition to Wel- •
cherett, it had been said,
,that a coop de mad' Wis
intended on, An tWerp. It was a hoe time to
'talk of a coup de main, when the -object of..our pre-
Orations was known by the enemy three months
precious to.Ourinal,.ing the attempt. He had heard of .
a late general orderiiven.to catch and send ,back a
Mr. Finnerty, who accompanied the expedition to
:give 'a true report of its prpteedipgs. -So anxious
was the Noblelord to catch this,(.3entleman, that. in.
his-anxiety to
.secure.itiw, he omitted to give those
directions for regulating the varioes arrangements
connected with the enterprise, which perhaps failed
morecompletely than. it wotildorherWise have done,
I from.: his very circumstance. When he considered
the disasters we had witnessed in Spain and Poriu-
gal,.the absurd quarrel with America, an d,the strange
news which had recently reached us .frotn the East
Indies, the most consoling partOf which' was, that
one-part of-our force had-been employed in destroy-
ing
another, all convinced him (he did not.wish to.
speak with particular asperity of the Gentlethen who
nigt in tirat room).that a Parliamentary Reform was
more than ever- necessary.--He was concerne&to
see, that while Gentlernen justlycenSured the epp-
dna of the Adrbinistation;
,they stopped short of the
mark, and did not carry their censure far enough
back. They did not carry it hick to the comMenoe--
meat of the-present system. They'did not carry it
(as-he would have them) back to 1793, when that
ruinous war, which was founded ont.l,lly and injus-
tice., began, and which had proved so 151:11 to cur
interests. : The evils which had lc:suited fromit were
then foretold -thOu.;h not to their I'6ll extent, for
prophetic despondency' could lint forSeethey would
be of such piegnitude. The Hon. 14arpnet then spoke
of Mr, Pitt having been- a curse to the country.-e-
He could not unlearn- what that Aliuister and his.
followers ha& been so.long teaching him. He could
not divest himself of the experience of the last fif-
teen years. ,Ile could not, without sorrow, hear his
conduct spoken of
.as.beipe. Werth), the imitation of
all succeeding
„Ministers. Tice country owed no
small portion of the. evils under which the people of
England labour to him: Yet:they had been callerl
bn toPhrthe debts of that man, and tb he at the ;ix- •
pence of erecting a monument to his memory: If a
monument were erected to hirer (and be Ititnself.ceekl
. „
wish Mat one should be raiied),, he eould wish to see
'on one'side of it, " Magoa Chaffa, and,the ancient
and unalienable Rights of the People," to appear in
-letters of gold, and on. the other the `scandalous
violation of,therst lieh stained his career;'shpuld
'be indented'. He could wish to see such a monu-
ment ..erected .to his. memory in the square before
that Horgan, -and that the Speaker should Condit&
every new Minister to :it, that it might give tliem
'a.:,lesson for their
.futureConduet, and warn them to
'avoid the path he had trod. The cruel and oppres-
sive taxes which drained the- pockets ofAhe people
Of this, country/ were in no'small degree aggravated
by the co/14th of those by Whorp, they ,wete
Any inadvertency was punished with the utmost
rigour. The taxes . were as cruelly raised as they •
were improvidently spent. lf any error appeared ,
an the return, the party was directed to seek re!-.
i,dress on the next appeal day. He might go; ap-
: peat day after appeal day, without being able to get
the .business settled ; .and.at last, happening to miss
one-day, -find it decided against him; afor frequent-
~
.ly going several miles from home, and being at ,
variety of expences. It was not right that alt the
property of the country should he 'deposited in
,the
- hands of persons who, if they abused their trust,
could net be brought to a trial by jury ; it was not
•eo' be endured. Whatever View he took of the Ais-
-asters we met with abroad, Or the grievanCes
. perienced at;home, -he still returned to
.the antic I
-point, and felt,', in a stranger degree, the ,necessityit
of a Parliamentary Reform. The measures hither-'
- to taken to accomplish that object had .been found-
inefficient; and were 114 ACts added to .'that,
passed in' the last S'eion and t.ll444';'phich. were
previously in existence, unless they were niuch,
stronger in theiretfeas they would' oaly wound the
-bark of that tree which ought to be tom, trp.,by, the
•
roots. When. we felt calamitiei.. press anwe- Upon
us, we must feel that some eauSeeexistbd; which!hi-
therto oar efforts had failedtojeMO,i..k:';....At each
'change our condition becatne,worse.tbatil);fore..Bcist
happy should we now be, were .our litiertion -what
it 'was when-we firstialked Of opening the!Schel4.,
How much brighter would be our prosic:;(%, irfhe
Alps, the Bhine, and the. Ocean,' welk:
boundaries of the dominion of France. ilowli4pi
if certain that Spain and-Portugal would not be-added
to it.; in shOrt,.how. happy should We now he'eould
any such period be. recalled. Not only did Minis-
ters prodigally-waste the resoureei of the country,
but they .were- equally lavish:9l honours.. Much
bad been said in praise' of barren. laurels, hut such
it was in the.powte. .of. imbecility itself to acquire.
If they were 'barren, and 1,0 fault could' be found:(
with the Generals who cornmanded bur armies, _
not%with the troopi who comprised them,: to whom
~but to lyfinisters could the titilure. of our military
6Dei'atlon' be ascribe,l? Pict they say our army
was not sufficiently strong to cope with that it was,
sent to oppose—why,. it should then be asked, was
it sent to face an unequal enemy , And if it were
strong eeough, why did it fail of atcomplishing the
object in view? Whatever might be said of ou.
barren laurels, such did not raise us very high. in
. the estimation of Europe, He then ack ert-,2d,ta the
sySterp•ot hartaek,bnildincr, now so general all pVer
the countery, and complained
,ofOt as having- a"
most ruinous eta Lt, Hewould.next ask why. the
land was continually inundated by. the intro-.1

'd,,,,:i "on lilt . foreign - eastrisenary seldiers
what description were sotne of them recenily re'
ceivi d into this country ?. Why, they were thug
stign,atised by, the Archduke Charles prior to the
, battle of Wagram, as having by their cowardice dig'
graced their contitry.' 'Yet these were-the men in'
traduced to maintain our national honour. Surelf
England could herself furnish more substantial de'.
- fenders. • Nothing cuuid -be mare dengerotts 010
such a line of policy. ' Theievilt rosulting:irsp,ij
were of such magnitude that. ire country- ongfe tobesenfeely regeneraiiri bya Parliamentary Ilkoral,
whit hhernót fervently wished.to see accumplisV
edt,
~,:He svishedeteosse au untorkof all the coflT-
iies in Englandi pressing forward and , insisting 0
-.the right'ist: petitioning tile:Throne. It was not t°
be expectedithat the City of Loot•ion would be 53/2
,tlsfied, when they wete onls- p rinifte&to send ti-eir,
petitioni by mell who were interested in cone's:did
-their wishes from the Soy ereign. Under all the afflic'
tions beneath which the people' of England groaned;
they had recently. been • called ueon to rejoice of
-their Moirafibb's entering the. -60th year of hissseigs,
—Rejoicings in the midst:of their. gistre,-es well
forced-on sheen.. Itewe live in OR" feign at a he'
i,nefiCeot SoVereign, sorely it.weuld no; b 3 desilea
,that some mslignant.t. star, inveri.'ims to the vie/
iof mortals, had shed its baneful irlf,u,ncz ,in out
land. But th'e fault fay 'in titernsa.s. •' In alai
,
room was 'the root of„the tree of cosreptiene to
be founds Its broliciles fetidly extended. over 1116
land, and beeettth tlosir shade to) .-:!:011:....'):ne plant
could flourish. If the fillit kv:D :.;,,;, 1,. L: ;':) cot.. eyes
it vi'as ashes tothe taste; tied is tee Lie. , eie bad
soh it would become of ..-:- ', .-t-`. Tiii `., ~1-: le F..nurCi
of ail our disasters. Every .`iiiiiister, e. i.: ;. i'se were
his designs, must-by ScriVe means or Ott,ior 1i..1.e reb_.'w,
lariy a majsrity of that' ii-bu-e iv his' fivoote He
Would conclude who observiogo.thot as a it bit- Re-,
man used to say, -" Rome cannot be t-ecure, till Cats
thage falls," so would he constantly say, England
cannot be safe, .unless: corrUption be de,iro)ed, ';-"AILi.
corruption can only be subdued by a PatlieZoeotari
Rerfotm.
Mr. YORKE observed the Honourable Baro-I
net never, addressed that assembly as being the
House of Coingeons. He , haesioseekequently • cis?
pressed Iriass'olf “ In this room," as though he lia4
been addressing a company assembled at a ta-
'eern. That -Circurnstance; -when coupled with
. the concluding. -• paraexesvpit- of his speedh gave' • i
toiersbry 'distinct idea of his sentiments. Whatever
might be the,subjeti under coesideratton, he always
began and ended: by:spissaking of what he called par-
liamentary Refota.t. Jilt (Mr. Y.'sy sentiments dif-
fered widely/from the• Hell. Baronet's on that sub-
iett, as, according to the -view hestook2 of, it, the
1
attempt, he iho-ught, if madeas the Hun. Baronet
could wish, wouldsbring about,a ctiange that would
I be very different -to' what fie intended, a change
r that would greatly alter the Coostitution of the
1 Country, and.make .it :such that it would scarcer
retain as vestige of that for which.,our ancestors
cOntendeds In thecourie of his speech the , Finn-
Baronet liad:tostehed. an several topics 'not at all
conne6ted *UN thesuhiegtof the Debate. In par-
ticular he hadittlucled, to the .JUbilee recently cele-
hraisecl,..ifiti spoke o ,sift#::fosissings which theissulbli
place as being forete.d. epoht,tlgpeople.„. as if their joy
was affected, ;Now he asseni4d this was the reverse
of the, faa. Never was there a snore universal joy
.:
estprAssed: among any Reopie;..ilei.er were rejoiCiftp
more spontaneous, fervent, and sincere. -Whensustil
terms were made use of, it became only -necessary
, to notice them to disprove them. -With reference
to' the' reign of our Sovereign, be,.Jild ii42lli
of it as
:being under the inauspicious influence'
of some malignant star; as only eistinguis4s4). 14
disgrace ' and calamity. ,It was troestlitit nYtiiii
calamities had been
:unfortunately felt, but that
.was not a reason why the. reign of his Ma-
jesiy should be spoken of as haying b'een ingiuri:s
ous. He. had said " how- happy-- should _we be
could .weagain be in such and such ,a,situation:"
It . was true we shOuld he hippy if we:could
agaio be in some sittsations.different to the present..
How happy should we a,ll he. could -Webe so sittinte
ect, as if ant 'detestable event the French Itevo:sses
Alan had never taken place. The Holt, 1331-ONeC
had spoken ill of the memory of Mr. nit, acid
concluded what he had to.say on that sUbjea sculls
a singular propo;nioii, that he Would ‘N.-ish`o monu-
ment erected to his disgrace, to I.vllich he Wouli
bare, th' Speaker lea:Zkeyeiy,new Min?ster that he
might thetwe take 'a -iesson: When he spoke ef,
• the country's haVing paid the debts-of - that Illustri-
ous Statesman, and furnished, the means of ere:l--
Mg a monument
,f 0 his slienlory, with such he
dignation, it svasiooly necessary IQ 'ie.-state what
he had advanced to make its iniustiso aprear.-'-'
He was in that House when. the suna necessary la
discharge-Mr. Pict's deists , was voted. He ' rerretns
hexed that. another great Statesssan; toen no mores
" Mr. i'dii; Hostile as he:ever was :to Mr. Pitt's`i,ob-
tics and friends, approved-et": the giant as'ait'issf'l,of
• -••••
justice-due to his-illustrious riv 7a1.. ilk ells:et:so
stance, added to what the Hon. Ba=ronet ha I sold ,s 1
the-Jiabilets, formed a, pretty good criterion by w4ittlt
v* might judge the other parts of his. speech. 8; ee
_parts of iteWere not founded in fda, and in othi.o
- the facts were so distorted,: that they were; at vast-
aucto svith all. argatioesit. Ili speakinseeof the. &i-
-curostaoses attending the introducing
.the City ..'Nsts'
dresSeto his'Majesty, he had set out ksy,sl,4iiigehat i?
was an insult to the City of London to deny-.them
access to the.Xhrone. Of • the City of London lip
was ever ready to speak with the greatest rekpsitt is
it was 611, and. mare 4b a n -.11-, the Hon. alrOflai-flilti
said of it. .It was the first city of Eutope, and the stir
, port it hadeolierdecl the King was such that it rei-ght
be sesearde4as a sort or heart from which the anti :O5
took their rise, and carried the blood or. strength to
every part 'at the pa:itical body. Its au:whin/sof
to the Hotise cf i l3runswick alone .was sufficient-
to entitle it- to lasting faMe. Nothing, could bs
farther-from the-wishes of - Ministers to ofier iL
any oinsult. Ndheoltadebeen :offered to it. • - Nes-
sthing 'Lid occurred • that had not stnken place be-
fOrc, when tile. Lisoi,e'asserted rt claim to •rieelo,...
'which they Were not entitled to, 'To sae nothiese , vs
the 'zsge and infirmities cf the Kints (o,:litch sees:o;
cert.:lit:ly to be objects of some consiletsestion)„ wto, It
not oteeossible for his li:itjesty to receive in llt. to oe
the f\ddrtss of all public bodies ? and what ;:is'y.
bad the City of L.)ndonto Such an' iodulgencesto t:
was not possessed by the cities of Yosls ; end i', f''' I ~_!'_ •
cestere and all other corporate bodies.. It had bests
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,th I Re, confeased his - talents, 'bUt.-the late unhappy Ite.blamed hirn • for his condo after. the battle of- . Sit P. I.3tiaDETT• Said, in eXplanation, • that, ',14
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A i iee, as usual, to. the Secretary of State, I events proved they were net of that kind which the I,Vi#ere ; he blamed . him .tor., the . Convention of. , only, meant
•„to express.his opinion. generally., . that'
r „ was , `aid that .a blow had been aimed at thelightel awful situation of the cOuntry demanded of.herfirst Cintra, all the evils of which were attributable to., the honour Ivas ill bestowed, that the Noble Lcra
l'" subject to petition ;the Kin ghe He .admitted - Minister. It had been observed how odious the him ; but on the present occasion`,' a-dye-tieing with- had done 'itoibing to deserve it, and that •he wag
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to county was-in clanger,' but. he could riot 'A'gree 1 terlit'a `disgracefol .was .when applied, to cur military_ but provisions, for his army, ,hielierses:Without pre-- - stilt to* learn what. weee.his Merits.
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.rernedies the Hon. Barpnet would proscribe, I -operetions at.Fiushlng 5 Thu( would it be deemed too vender, his men Without sustehence, he condemn- ; • Lord TEMPLE thought it important that the House
e_crrit'anger he •thought,. arose •Priecinitily ' from' estraieg aeeriew hen rpplied to him who should risk ed.the whole as rash, and he should consider him; should shew a despositien•to'prObe and examine' into
~litereial diasepsiona; from private animosities, from i the British 'fleet to .take . possession -of a fishing Self as a disgrace td hiS-piafessibn
.if be did not con- every: kiblse, for otherwise the people shout Ibe apt
, ~,(1 of each other.. Those gave the disaffected smack. .He was (Old'thdtiPaperS•were to be laid on damn it. The honour of the 'British soldiery he to think that abuses were greater. than they were.,.
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,courage to pursue their that table eelative.to. the Expedition to. the' Scheldt had never impeached; -whenever, they were led,. to He shoultisuppoit the motion." • ..-:-.
a's`gnsaagainat the Constitothon of the-Country. It. ' Ile demanded the map of Europe, and would shew . battle they had acquitted themselves in a mariner : Mr. Wri'ARToN hoped: fir the ,ihdnik,..noe of tha,-
necessary when the' Slat(, ayes indanger to have • from it that. en Expedition. to 'the Scheldt was no 'worthy of their country and.'heeoming the char.acea: House in replyinghesome ellusiOna *tech had. been
latemeient army. •• He lamented ..the dissensions
~ sufficient diversion of the prover, of France. Suppose . ter .of seh-liers ; but the trial •of 'British Generals . made to 'him: 'He had net adreitted on a formr night .
w, hap •existed io 'the CahMet ; he was certain ; this ab,urd Expedition, a: be must' call it, had sue-- Ford& alone rescue them ; the calamities their rash- - that he ryas ignorant of the•duees of the office -which
rt.`-' no [the fault or his :Right, Hon. Friend' .that. ceetled .in every point ; suppose we had taken' pes'• hess.might,eccasiope.neither their cotirige nor their. he had the honour to fill, but; if he was ignorant, ha
„. "filled his situatien; per was it his .fault that there e ,fiession of the ten seil of the line' which Ministers talents could atone for. : - . ....eeopld hot come to the 'Hon. Gantlerrein tor liistruca
oa .not more talent in the present Administration-
~ •seemed to make' Si) dutch work about ; suppose they
~ -The .11evert 7.4- .0.-ie.-A.rldres having been brought
~ lion. He came into office under great dis tdvantaae,
°f that bp thought. aey, of ,his Majeaty's servantae
,Were in possesslon of- every fortress in the. Low up and read, the Chancellor of the Exchequer moV,- after it had 'been. filled by the Here Gentle Man who...
c'ent inability, hut' his Right Hon, Friend would. ,Countrtes, yet would -not all tbaSestiffite lebaffie ed that it be read a second' time: a : .., - ,; lately left it ; but he flattered, himaelf:that from the
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'IY have strengthened- rite Govt. urn ant bY. forme the powers of Napoleon., h.aho-- continually held in 1-. Mr, .Wti eri a zeta rose to [nave an Amendment. knowledge which • he-e'llad'Previeeelf acqUited of
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,!,•a Combined Ainnii)istration.' .He :did not, blame, ;his mind
.the old Roman m0tt0,..“- Hoc age,"'
.and 1 He said, that to save the (joie of the House he should finance, as 'Cliairmaii:.iir -vs,--ay; arid, means; arid a
~,,„`4° who had thwartedtho-,,e hors etliey might have. , :stillptirsued but one °hie& Much-had ',eel) rested ; confine himself ea, a very feW, observations., The Member of the FittariCLr, Committee, and by mire:,
110 reasons for their coneiJet. . Though lie.differed. on theietpot tauce of destroying the basin at Flush- 1 Ameodment bad. suggested itself to him from thecir- miffing. indati-y, the 'nre'pheey of the }fete Gentle.,
b,rir.l them in politics, he thou ht hiehly.oftheir •ing ;'atilt'` but a few years since we also destroyed .cumstance in 'the present Address, not pledging the' man, as to tube detti'tiVetit'which the iiublic service
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,;_hies. Theeh-cerdstanceofelteir refueing lltiaov.era a slehle. at.Ostend- •?Theitmenage of some,. hesaid, House. to an advancement, by every, means ,in its would sustain, wenn:tail to he realised; As to re- •- •
,ries made •to rheas was, hou-ever, a' sufficient tea- ;• entitled the yieepry :eta' the plains. of Talavera•a..gloe -I power, of ec.onorn'cal reform., The people of this fording the Report of the Finance Committee,- he
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414 w.hy his Hon. Frieitd Flhould hccept the situaa rictus acleirement to British 'glory, a happy achteve7 1 country were pew:eauouring entree the pressure of a ' thought he had done a public service, by procuring
lie hid now -the hottollr to fill, and he should ment of British velour. On this subject he would 1 kid of taxes almotit to the full oh-fount of what. each papers 16 be ekputigeel froin it •' ' I Ii d they
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1,.. tok highly of him fer so doing. He
hadwoul say a feW words. .1\16: Mon tti t bar HoUse possessed 1 indiVideal could pav, and the shameful and tinprpfit7 gone forth, would have !cad a most denimentaleffect
,07's Rapport his Majesty's Gevernment. He d higher pritions• of, milittary glery than he did ; but I :able exeendiitire•of their property which. took place US- the country, He believed it was the'first time it
hole to hope or to tear.. He did not mean to say, tnilitary glory •'s as
_of t.,vo kindee-than of the 1 diving last summer ought. to be inquired into. . For had ever been adduced as evidence a man . .
rle would never be points on which he shoal difa .soldier, aftd that- of the Gene- al. . :The soldier i the Right Hen'. Gentlernati opposite to him he hia canacity for a seat at the Treastuye•that he bad .once
on! Opinion •front.' hia..Majeaty's, s•-rvents, but he earned his meet: with fatigue, .with: patience under 1 ev,'fy res Pee;. but when ,be saw hitn surrounded 'as been. On a Committee of Finmee, and had once been
'lid never systethaticallv eppose them. It .had ev.ery pais ation, .vett.h sutferingl, -- with huogev) 1 ',he was, he could het. help. thinking a. pledge tie the Chairinen of a Gm-to-due:2 of Wayst and maaes,
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asked why, the least' India Compeny;s, affairs and with thirst. Lord W. he considered a 'matt
,i eessary.. ...When a Gritletrtan *WaS now Secretary of He could only accountot for it bv reeo.leeline tnar he
of distieguished merit and.:Ackno;viedged bravery,. I ehe TteasUry, who, whena Member of the Finauee had always diffee om the friends of the Riaht
21:e not nce-iced in the King's Speed!, _.Noth-pig
7 certainly kno'Nn of the state of the East Indies When ire Was' sent to Spa.n, he looked around him ; I Committee, lad so much retarded the progress. of Hon. Gentleman, and the.-hon. Gentlemen who sat
t s'w 'louts before the framing ,of the Speech, 'he knew that- either •lie must beat the Fiench, -or the I their Reports, it was proper thet some pledge en this near him. ; _
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is. uld not haVe been well 11terefere ito ads i.e 'French,would .sbeat him ehe advanced, and he beat 1 head should be given to the coon {y -He had no .Mr. WHITBREAD stated, that a Friend had inthrm-
Majesty to touch oh that subjeCt. . For a• thou:I; bui, bet Ore he advanced, he Should }have ash ! .doubt that ken,: Gentleman was. capable Of: learn- . ed him that the. Hon.-Gentlemen on the last night
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lf'what conduct lie hOd- to expect from 1 in the bus' ess of -the .
1, 'tY of reasons he agreed with the. Addresse— bored bimse,., , g
... e ... finance, as llonourable,Ge- : said he woulct‘he able to* learn the duties of his office,
~""tigh he admitted that failures which the House- 'his allies, and not lead his army to battle,: ignorant ,l, tlenian had expressed himself the other night; but and it was (rain this he was led 1Q make any obser-.
;11-ow.lie should leach them. out of it.: He had heard the mist-Otto:tie was; that while he was learning, the ; vatioes on his eapacity.
a'ght to inquire into bad taken place, vet till he,
..w the papers teat were to be laid • before them, .of thO' laurels. won at Talavera, but he could not help business of Analice woeld stand. still, and the country l Mr. DENis BaoWNa defrided•the :course w lab
„ Would note say whether or• not it. would be 'cobsidetling them as barren laurels, having indeed ! would, suffitt, , On these 'grounds,- he thought: it Mt. Wharton had pursued in the Finance Com-•
the laurel in theca, and like laurel i ineportant that; the HOtis?. should citric to sortie Parte.
'°Per to go into the detail. He Could not .think that - the essence 'Of . . , .
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Ptas experienced onperatieled calamity and disgrace. water, poisonous. Go ask the eutrneing_cOrses in l pte,lgea that they would set about the consideration ! •Mr. JOHN SMITH contended, that the general sena
Tie" plan afire:late Expedition was te make acoep the Marshes of Talavera bow fietitful,were the Jan- iof economical iefornis in. the public. expenditure. timent of the .'country was, that Government had
54,110171 on Antwerp., One division of the. army rele.-wou upon that day. Toth& Right Kop.,,Gq-- ! •He had hot 'Much exped.ation that such-. reforms bethr guilty of a shameful Wont of economy, more
(I,IY it was intendedlo land at Waleheren to re_ dentin Wire had spoken last he *gave fell credit for I
_would diminish, in a .geeat degree, , the public but ' particularly. in the military department.' He would ' ,
to Pas
Flushing. The -other part of the krce was _his loyalty ; hilt he could not think that. Gentlethan 1 dens -, but they would at leitSt gratify' the feelings of vole for the Amendment, ..because it pledged the
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th Pass at once. IllY the Seleldt to strike a blow, had any claim- to exchisive loyalty'. In loyalty' be the' people who had borneelle goading pressure of • , :HouSe to 'anitirtuiry on the stibjett.
Weald not:yield to any man, and itylocti and teve- ttixtition vietit• unex am Plea patience.+Be hed word- . Sir A. Pide'r also ' supported the 'Amendment,
st,i'l.rlst. the enemy's naeal force at Antwerp. That ,
: rerice of a good %dog he was sure none could excel ee the paragraph in the most moderate terms, and Which pledged the .House to enforce only such re:
ee"eved..wonid havw been:an obiea of great ii-n-
-himself; but 'he thetigh(this cry of loyalty larpstie ; theaefore he touated' it would not be excepted to.--a trenchthents as were eonsistent with the welfare Of.
rzirtance. The weather; was :unfavourable anti de-..
th tied our force in the Roompoe fin- ten days After tuteda it was male
.the watch-woid of party mene I '.l-le then proppsed, that of the paragraph respect- , the country.. - , Wee confi,leece. could Parliament'
, ...• ‘, .place in the. assurance of Ministers, that the esti,'
Aat every iris lof Aucceedina in a coup de muin on endeavouring thus to identify the K-ittg- , Jot: themea itee the supplies, should be inserted--
-.` And in wrier to your eleeety's su,hjeets, who have so I mates for the present jeer_ should be.fraroed with a ,
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.econcnny,.-Wleen the opposed an in-'
( rnwerp vanished of coarse.. It wets neve,- intended . selves, ntrd render the Royal bare the sheet-anehor !
i lent; borne with (e,eneeary pstreea the oureeesef taxAtio'n, ! Qt 1,4 ..,,, •
of their art ••. • This he etid, was as iteiurious tei
ensoe.very Gentleman who looked .at the map muse • • P )•-, . : 'Hits, e. ',..,, . .' - . . ; we' will iriiniediate,ty anti edit,;, h,1,, apply •nurselve.to the
va W) CU go against Ano.a-erp,ip a regular,campaign the Kin g,• as offensive to the t.,ooStittalOtt It W.IS ; consideration and adovtiOn of such eednurn:eni;reformi as may !.quiry, into the erPfese expenditure of the 'year that.
Y• Flushing wasehrot taken, and that, whatever • Illeadtnta nett:A.A. - For himself he sooke from DO i -heconsiStefrt witnthe Waare
,t the seee, In:4 fnjy pe,gra_ . was p,„ ?
: , tilying tt, the fv.eiings Of soar No pie. Ti..eeter.ti " satisatetory," as a lied t
. 1 the infortnatie'ea".Whi-‘.h, in his Majesty's. sje,s tyfeSpePePci, wasci
t.cn.tght be said, was of -ome ire °rear e (I 1 H.n . teirtrneitive eho belenged to no 1,1;-:rty , he' spoke
p.e e —, le -. e . _ .1 ! promise- on the Sit:Jett of the Walcheren expedi-
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iv leral turned up his -eyes). WaS it nothing, Aro from .3 tilt! conviction, that `.lbis Country now More. - The CHANCELLOR of -the EXCHEGitTER said he ' • A
41Id ask, to
a garrison of ten-, thensareee .. than elver required a strong and.,au efficient -MM.'S- citt not conceive that' theee WO any occasion whate ; Lion, infiiiied, that su,:b it,' forth, eoo. was intended. to
I 'be final, lea,:ing, no doubt, a great part of the subieet
ten prisoners of w4l-, and render tie harbour end „try, and that we should -trave ',Len (if such there ever, for the Alllendalent iA'llieh lie had proposed.
I,:sio useless for a conliderable
_tane,'? The basin at . were) who would be capable-of meeting tht. ut.tuoit ! 'flue, House had' been ittforniel; in his Mee sty's _ and parttcularly the expence attendaht upon it' (oil
which the proposed amendment direetly bore), with-
t, w„ water wae 02 feet in deptili 5
:from 15 to co efforts of Buonaparte's -talents.• He, thought it ne- I: Speech that dhe.estimarc-s Would t.),.... trained whit as
oilui tseplauicaid:autlidOtpeiot\u'Vgiatll,erNeisil:ieisettearslsehtiod•ot.litveencanmoPiautiglirat. .
in the
of the line court ;hie in it: For eight -months. ceasary art ir,iciniry.stioul:l be n,....cleirtio•the expends_ 1 much reeaid to economy. Its was consistent with the
In. the year iteit her the English nor the Ftepch Could true of the public. reomty, that the' people might I public security, it-id he did not couceivethat the
41(le in • the sebeirite; nothing could be done without . have the cunolation to know how that money had . Hop. Gentleman would find himself supported in oration of any intention .on their part to conatnuni-
°tits. The enemy had already been obliged to been spent. He Was sorry, to say Gentlemen had adopting this Manner of mat king his suepicieh, and • . cute the necessarydecuments ielati,e. to the expense
the 'of that measure. -.120 -endeiVour to obtain this desi- .
Za.lze, wet docks
;in the dykes, and some of their 0f... late been in the habit Of speakiegot,tnillions of of copycying tit() the.Throue. -.•With -regard to
pbject which the
.1-lone Gentleman had in view,. 1., rable object, as well as many.others, he should hearti-
th!Ps lied already broke their backs.. Was that no- Money, and thousands of: men, as if they were of
ee'"o or if nothing, could it be a- disgrace-? Sup- -. none, or but little iinportance. It. was not purlieu- viz. that of promoting en economical reform in the. -ly concur in the motion of his Hon, Friend.
tie . telt no attachment ptiblic expenditure, however desirable that might The Gallery was then cleared for a division.—The
leached Sheerness. ". 'Suppose Sheerness 'to .he ten .to soy. particular set of nien. W. 4a( was calied in be,.yet•he disapproved of the Amendment, as cal- 1 numbers %vete,
,I,lnes the importance it is—what,. though they could 't that House political consisiency, he considered as I celate.d to raise expectations in the public mind which i for the Amendment
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limit reach Chatham, would it be nothing tbat they i' the groSsest inconsistency ; tie.- oPiehsed not men, it would be impossible to realize.. The Hon. Gentle-
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hestrobut' tueasutes ;he bad Seen the. revered. ashes of an mail had spoken Of the grinding nature of the taxes,
ed tike basin and burstit the arsenal ? Woe '
izi,„ y- . .While strangers' were excluded, we understood
t' to that Government in whose time such an witch . but surely he could not think • ' •language
illustrioila Statesman raked from the grave in
E proposed an Amendment, the
they slept, and cast into the tac...s. pt. the present . to, use : if the taxes were necessary they must be
tvent should take place. He lamented nooltingl nature of which we could not ascertain. knottier
in,rneeli as the fashion. of condemning,' and ute- 1 Minister ; for his part, he.netetecoeld recall that . raised ; Parliameitt had passed laws for that purpose, I division ensued te•-• ' • •
:aillY traducing, tlie diaraclers of Officers emph.y- 1 naince;w4thout a sigh, nor mention it withou; re-, a andhhisAmendment was calculated to . convey the For Mi.. trierney's Amendment --sz •
to hith he,owed the been; ~enabled to stand idea
,that those laws had been frarneciewith undue Against it, . toa ,
i'‘s, iii militarV onerationse. and. .venting, ineanotie l sped sMajority ~. - .. _ --48
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libels on their COnduct. He- wondered how :the
ea tin that. House and address a British Senate--to him severity. It ' the House really. was of opinion that
that he' poss,eseee. a single acre of land. I these Laws, or aey, of them, were toe severe, it was : . The motion, for bringing up the repot tof the Ad-
On• General opposite could have so Wee feeling-far '. it was owin'er
n brother-soldier •
as' tu .sl;aaß in the nrioner he did of I No men, 'he obstred, despised populttr claniletr I their duty to revise, and, if necessary, to' alter ; dress was then carried without a division. The Re-
move than he did. it the county he represented, I them ; but while they
~•were . in. force,. such port was agreed to; and•the Address•was oreered to
?Ili, cers who lead no opportunity di ci.•fending them- 1
se
and 'who, for aresht 'he _knew, had no one to I when he was . elected; he declared to his, consul'-, I. language as that , Which .he had - alluded to ,be presented to his Majesty by such of the .Members
tuents, that .he would do as lie .pleased, and vote. aa I centd not be proper.;
:The Hon. Gentleman had i as were of. his' Majesty's most Honourable Privy
"eferid them. He lan-Tented it., because, if the ays- i... - .
he leased;P nor did he wish lot tieit popularity I stated, that it would be consoling to the people to Coil-
mil. •
to ware p asevered in, it would be productive of
tlwiaich could be lost by doing his duty to thew, and I know that `no UlltieCeS3Ary . expence should be in- - LORDS GAMBIER AND WELLINGTON.
1-1 nost .fatal effects. With respect 'to Spain, •
lie,
;to the Cominues of England at large.. Alter the I curred ; but they were assured of that in his. Ma- 1 The CHANCELLOR, of the
_ExceCouaa gave no-
,e 'would say Pd rashness bad been displayed -on
proved I honour of the British flag had_ fallen—atter, he . testy's Speech i. and be must - again repeat; that- his '• Heel that on Monday next he would move the thanks
;I'e part of Lord Wellinetote His- letters
Would say, it had been dragged through the mire, he great objection to thisAtnendment.was,. that it was :Of the House to-Lord Gambit for the defeat of tbe
t, to alto world. It gallA him to see men in such
4'tuations so unfeelingly aSiiersed.. :It often re-: could not lend his suppOrt to those who were the ; calculated to, raise expectations which; under the i Frenchin,Basque Roads, arid.
-to Lord Wellington for
cause of it., He felt this to he his duty„ and as such present circumstances, it - would -be inipossible to . the victory of Plavera. - ...
gulled more courage in a General ' to remain'
he would fulfil it. He had but one word more , gratifY. • Tile question of. Refortn-,would very soon I iVlr'.'W.ll.ltiitEAD asked-to which of the two mo-
thhere lie was, or to return, than to go forward. 11l
to say,: whatever might have fallen from him that I come. under the consideration of `P4rtiatherit, and tions the .ikight Hon. G-.ntletnatt,intended .to..give •
te latter case, they braved what must be most ter-. .
night, wheteveropiniona he might have broached, I, therefore it appeared to • trim tiliteece.s4ary to adopt i priority ?
l'hie to tlieir feelings, unmerited obloquy in Era-' '
I, be could. onlyassere that House, it they were not I the Amendment now propt.raead , particulariy as the i Tht.CHANCEJ.LOR of the Excneeinett replied, that
and. . It was mischievous and absurd to pass such
tefleelons, without -"substantial grounds for so de-. - the opinions
_Of,- a wise man, they were those of 1 Address bed once received the seticaon of the House.- 1, the date of the aaltieveneent would. certainly induce
lng• ' Two-points only,
11. „ y, in on art honest ene. . Mr possoeina could. not agree' iii opinion With him first to prophse the thanks to Lord Gambier:
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' letrem -- It was .true the , . '
the Right Hop. C, ent , . . , Mr.' to know svhether,_,if. tile
' %top, could, in, his opinion-, be objeeted to. The General TARLETON rose la answer the direct al- the
proposed.did not -connect, the
.war ek- ! discussion in_theinetion ferthanits to Lord Gambier
"e was, relying too touch on the Spani'ards; 'the lusions Made to, him by the Right Hon. Gentleman,i
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penditure of, the cyeutry. with. the civil ts.ttplisigneot, , should pccupy a_ large portion of the evening, it was
°,,,iber, cenitting to secure the pass of Puerto Banos. who sodke last but one (Mr. Yorke). He would
but he could not see that it w;ouldtetche any expec- 1 the Riglit Hon: Gentlernan'snintehtion immediately
4bat: pass, .as it' was Maintained by Sir- trespass but a few minutes on the time of the House.
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So • •tations..Which (ight. not to be fulfilled. Ite-was'no :to proceed with the motion of thanks to Lord Wel-
., o with a Portuguese army against a- superior 'force
,"I' bat •Gentleman-had termed, the conduct 'of 'our
for
• wild or extravagant plan; but. sal,4ttle:.• ieterth, can- lington '' - '-
, ~_ nine hours„ might have been effeetually secured army at the Scheldt a simultaneous operation. For
eiouslyi.wordede anti onlytp;cr tiiilng,r,-mr.rn ti-4 those: ir • The CHANCELL-OR of the EXCHEQVER, while -k
• . 133' a Brit;eheferce. Throughout the • whole cam- .. his part, he was certain that when it would come to
thi.ugs which were perfectly ekrt.s.e.t -to ~ith,ll.l'-'.sta- , confe,sed that he wasesoliciteue 'het the .House
lalign no disgrace attached itself to the British army. inquiry, it.. would be found: that the .Expdition
. bility of the Coustitutiati a• be fully -agreed in tee ex- . should not delay expaessing their gratitude to Lied •
The great object was to secure PortogaL That i failed not from the 1111111ber of points it embraced,
pressiou of the; Right Hon.. Gentieuroee, that it 1:. Wellington -fhi- his bridiant set-Vices; certainty would.
Lord Wellington had done. 'While retreating •he I but from the impossibility of effecting any one of
1 cOilid.ont be right to exeite eeeee.latiees. .wliteh i riot pressethe..sulajeaeon Monday. evening,.....shauld
covered the whole frontier, , and completely stopPed ; there fully ; that it would- be found there were not
the
. progress of the French armye He approved of II boats enoueb to• land- seven thousand Men in one
~ would: ,not be-fulfilled ; lent he '.isked• vaey they ; the precedipg questioe occupy much of the time of
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should not ? He saw' no • reason that they sheuld. the House... ~.
that pas-age in the Speech, avhicli set forth that tide,' aed asfor the weather, every one-knew what
Al it ea '' -'h 1 Nit T
not ; 31(.1' therefore he Concluded, that %vas peo —r. lERNEY inquired whether 'or not 'there ex-
.. l'ortugal'h-ad thus been preserved.. With respeet to ' -sore Of weatie r there was at that season 'of the year.
per,.. wise, aed just,-in that House; to pledge itself isted any .obiOeion to the production, of. certain dig-
America,. he lamented the misunderstandingS that 01 On:. Seaufsh 'Expedition; he had in the course of .
. to Adopt a reform ; arid with such • a couviolion patches froMrLordWeliiitgion, which he particular-
' Aad arisen. Hr, however, derived great'satistatlion 1 lest Session expressed in that House his opittion ..
inipressed upon his mini, he would suri c)rt•`.the used, and 'cf a letter trctla the Sean's!' ComMis..i.ary
,retu the assurance of American Minister, that that it WAS rash to carry o'er military operations' into
Address. ' '' ' -.., ; General .Il3nat3oueh to ' Lord Wellington, • which
1..11.5 GovernMent was desirous of a good understanda ;hSpain. The Righe Hon. Geptlemon had spoken of -
Mr.•BATHURST thought , the paragraph. enneces-a w ould shew that Government knew that the safety
'lig. His Majesty was desirous of a good under- I the crueitY of miSrepresenting Officersin their ale., '
sary, as matters tonne meth the public economy of the British army was endangered at the very
carding, and he hoped a good understanding would ; settee,. but he could not help thinking that it was
roug 1 about. e would onlyea a,. that ie ~t e duty,
\aria should e the toe motion o ,every
be:_b 1 t H(l' 1: 1. hd . bif :• toe motion .I ' 'objectwere confided. to the Float-ice Committee. His chief moment that. they Conhrred a Peerage on its Com-
In rising was to notice
.a statement made by madder ? "
'could never utter a word that should have a tendency 1 ;General Officer to, seek 'for a trial of his condili'l, . • ,
an Honourable Baronet .(Sir Francis Burdett) re- , The CHANCELLOI of the EXCHEQUER obscured;
ko prevent the wished-for reconciliation. . • I and thus, like gold, come purer from the crucible.
. •
,wes. this which stamped the tame of a Marl- spotting a noble relation of - his. -11 e understood that the papers alluded to by the Hon. Gentleman,
ShaJeSEBRIGHT Said he felt himself called on , It the Noble Bltronet to State;
,that his.relatioe, (Lord yvoulci.k,',, very insuffipient fur, the purpose he wished
got to support his Majesty's Governm •under Government the !
• borehgh and a Nalson ; valiy should not the same
1 pr,cess-he adopted in the military' which had raised ,
Sidmouth) xeceived a Peeraee• for having commenced . to obtain, which Could not be effected by such d par
- • eXisting circumstances. The present-Ministry, he i the'..war ;..but he was mis;fortned as to the face, ' teal prodtaion ; 'and that there: would not 1-.),stiffi:
I out'. r,arai ~charaeter sediiilli, that of tin immediate
. : 'conceived; were .by no means talculeted to euide tor it was nrstortons- he did not receive the Peer- dent time ,to lay before the I-loteee the multiplicity of
, iiiquir, into the condua of' Cotinuanders that men I
Oie helm of Government in a evanper 'at all Ilan- I : ~ .• • .. _. . • ‘,. . • i ii,:e tht.n but afterwards', on' coming into Adtni- , documents necessary on this Elibled at so shott 3
1 .uf merit ought receive their'rewaid, rewaid, sa hilt! the un- ,
ne; . ' .
tageon to the countr3e, and though he felt every I,er-
! play, hi- and improper might sink into deserved
.. • - f
,tiation with Nix. Pitt; and then he was inducQd to '' notice.
' 'cllal respeet for the Right Hop.- Gentleman oppo-
obsurity ? But he did not censure men only in .
. to accept of tt. . runt circumstances' indepepclent Of Mr. TIER lEY expressed -his dissatisfaaion at being
tell, Yet lie could not . help reere• tting that he, held' '
►their :absence ;he remembered when per*unat gratification. He,begged-alio tbs Lite, that ' called upon to vote thanks Lord Wellington, be-
-9 high a situation in the ''Administratioit of the '-1-4(1-d -1/"" l,l‘; j_Nohle .geiatiutl, on relit ing. train office, declined . fore the House were put in possession of the Paperit
b„t.i.n., ~, Atn, • . %....as a.,... ;1 t., of that Houser w- ten every el lidh
,higher
‘:* eloe ' •.' Nle• ib.r --ti ' I •
o‘,ll:ty. .Ter: gave him credit -for ietegri'ty,
_, teregue,cerneint.d 10- praise him, he censneed trim in i.,. . ',- , • , than what he afterwards received; and he hadmentioned.
.....iikee-caed any. eaeratediary. reward •.or grataicatlou • ,
ter, was not all that wes re:piled of• lute •; 'int,'... . FOREIGN TROOPS.
114 prcs“lCe i' he ui-ged the necessity-of a scrutiny; -{ -.• . h , . . . - -
Ll:4y alone ‘litlS not Sufficient to:eneet ilia; CI;C.I y- .wtok. was 'nen odered to tam. Lord TEMPLE, ad% etting to the circumstance' of
... . .

the reception into Bt itish pay of a number of foreign
troop 4 that bad arrived in this country under the
command of the Duke of Brunswick Oels; wished
to kneyw if it was the intention of Ministers to advise
.Majesty to make ,any.communication to, the
House on the Fubject
The CHANCELLOI of the EXCJIECIUHR replied in
the negative; unless indeed he might receive his
Majesty's commartds to make some. communication
'relative to the gallant leader of these
_troops --
Such a communication es that alluded to by the
Noble Lord was unnecessary ; for it was perfectly
consistent :with the. existing laws 'that a certain
number of foreign troops :should, be .in ,British
pay, and that number • bad note been exceeded
by the accession of the troops Under the Duke
of Brunswick If, however, it hacL.been ex-
ceeded, :under the' peculiar circumstances in
which those brave soldiers arrived, such a step
would, in his opinion, have been completely justi-
fiable ; although in that case he should certainly
have thought it his duty to advise a communication
to Parliament on the subjea.
Lord l't.mma expressed himself satisfied with
this explanation:—Adjourned.