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tion to take the Committee on the Dissenters_.at,
Bill on Monday next, and on Thursday se'illuv
Committee on the Poor-laws. p'
Mr. WYSE inquired when the Government in
to proceed with the Irish Municipal Bill.
Sir J. GRAHAM said shortly after the second
ing of the Irish Registration Bill.
Mr. BORTHWICK said that as the Right sAfjo
able Gentleman had fixed the discussion of the PIO
for Thursday se'nnight, he begged to give note e
top'.
should not, as he had intended, move for leave ito
in a Bill on that subject, but merely move a root Jo
us an amendment to the motion of the Iligb
Gentleman.

ANATOMY ACT. petiti":4
The HON. MEMBER then presented several „so
praying for the appointment of a Committee to 1"
into the operation of the Anatomy Act. rod
Petitions to the same effect were likewise P 4'oo
by Mr, Muntz, Mr. Fitzstephen French, Mr. Su
Crawford, and Mr. Hardy.
Mr. PETER BORTH WICK was sensible or there;
interest which was attached to the motion of whisr
Hon. Member for Sheffield had
would show how much he participated in thatabgto
by being as brief as possible the
_O,
tions with which he intended 1;0000
his motion. He brought forward thild atonal
both on public and private grounds. lie w°ll' Dee'r
admit that it was necessary for medical seiheatoti
anatomical investigations should take place—t
point which he would not dispute. In the year ofr
present Anatomy Act had been introduced for theP ton
of relieving mankind from the perils of the odioustlefe
by which anatomical schools were supplied with! of 0
and which placed in danger not only the grArarne-GesLlr
dead, but the safety of the living. The 'l°' hie;
given notice, feels
would
man's plan had succeeded, and he tendered to
isii '
thanks for what he had done ; but the mensureejo
present stood, contained within itself the se,_ ther.,
resurrection of the horrid traffic. Althougnboaieff,
made it unlawful for certain persons to possess the
anatomical purposes, it had not provided againstofpof dead bodies, nor against the illegal possession_jg
of bodies. The consequence had been, that s
bodies had taken place in some of the schools, t
ths
detriment of others. This was an abuse
quired correction. He also took exception ag:4
of the principles on which the Bill was font: coot
the law stood at present, when a person died ws.t.osectit°
friends to claim his body, it was given up for u,'„,forb,,'
on the principle that he owed a debt to the I:Tb`-set
maintenance. He protested against the cloctrinea
owed to every person the debt of protection, a,u,A WS,
was one person more than another who was enat'Tkiey,
protection, it was the poor man who died withtse"
He believed that the proposition he had put f° 1”„ d
not founded upon the principles of justice, s'n
that ground he moved for a Select Committee• e ilor
been said by the Right Hon. Secretary for tb ore re,
Department, when speaking on another and, Teen •1
portant subject, that the agitation which had n•
up in connection with it Was a noxious agitt.'eete
was it necessary to have agitation on any seui ;der°
it was desired to bring under the serious cons'asnetti
of that House? Already much good had beeouod hit' ;!
the agitation upon the subject of anatomy theiti
many quarters, and in very many ways. whiode
1836, Mr. Roberts produced his invention, oY
much could be learnt from two hundred bodies
IF"
formerly from six hundred. The most erntue° ttstice
g
tioners had borne testimony to the value and ripe
fiss
of Mr. Robert's preparation, and a great desireuastn!'
pressed that it should not be taken to other ethe
but that such a protection should be giver', °pi
ventor as would induce him to retain it toy,,
It was admitted that Mr. Roberts was deserving
muneration for his useful invention, and the one,
ber for Kendal himself had asked Win t° nand"l3
amount he thought would remunerate hire totivo
Roberts, in reply, stated that he thought st°"ooolcr
be a fair sum. The most satisfactory testi° ace:oo
given of Mr. Roberts's process. He could n° an
either the Government or the Hon. GentlemostlA
oppose his motion; but if they had any doubts Joe
efficiency of Mr. Roberts's plan, all he sysn„froe!
Committee to prove it. Mr. Roberts bad J'e" s?..Ad
for which he ought to have been compensst7iao
which he had not. The present Bill, he owutethose,(
considerable protection, but it did not protee," o,d
were the most helpless and the most deservilleelinlip
tection. In the present state of things, seurcedilf.
passed that some student's life was not ssenr'v tbesrde
noxious operation of the dissecting room. 'loll
tion of Mr. Roberts's plan those dangers select)
moved. He concluded by moving fora nna
mittee to inquire into the operation of the 14,
Act. ot
to
Mr. HARDY seconded the motion. It w:55 ref
sirable and most important that the feellisollAti
humbler classes, which were so much ese,i,„te 0d p#
point, should be soothed. He thought tus' c:otiP of
the Government on this measure required inc-to the
and he would give his most strenuous support
pointmenk of the Committee.
The question having put, Or St
Sir J GRAHAM could assure the ll°°e
would address it with the most studious bretchog 4
thought the proposed inquiry, so far from s°°tbis :i
tit
public feeling, would rather irritate it, and 0000 0,,
alone it might be avoided. The present Act the
guarded, guarded, and strict in its provisions regarding, whyti
sal of bodies—the dying wish of a person, °AI
condition, must, in all cases be adhered to, a° the
distant relation of the deceased, if he clainie Woe Jor
must not be refused it. If there was, as the l'a" tbe
ber stated, gross infractions of the present
linquents ought to be punished, and ivold'rroe
ished, if the proper means were taken for ilians ft
them before a legal tribunal. Two Co
of th jeep
been appointed to inquire into the subject/,s/jle Ir
ports of these Commissions, partiCularly o°9
the Government were about to act upon. 'fuel/
the subject, which had prevailed since the Pus- ~t(
present Act, was the best proof of its success. A the
.f
ing Mr. Roberts, on whose account he believet,' esttit;#
sent motion was made, he (Sir J. Gralts'ui,osi tf
disputed the success of his plan. it • °llOlll4
Sir Astley Cooper and Sir Benjamin Broth° to be
proved of it in 1836, but he had good reastesttod
that Sir Astley changed his opinion on the s'''alebleS'
his death, and Sir Benjamin Brodie he was is brojel,
to say had entirely changed his. Mr. Bohe,r, 0;11
perimentalised on sixteen subjects in Gure eve
and he was empowered to say that in all t",lects',o4
had decidedly failed. Science must have,s„-tibetloto
under the present system they had them, "" the P
no abuse or desecration. 1k called 111)°11 016
strenuously to resist the motion. te'i
„
Mr. F. FRENCH said the Hon. Baronet'„ o'lol4
regarding Mr. Roberts was without foundat'°oclseptli
not experimentalised on sixteen, but on four setifiAtt",
and on these four and a half he had beensupeo'biee
successful. The llon. Member felt bound t°the s° is
motion for the Committee, considering that aitilg'l,
ought to be inquired into. ao 0.
Mr. WARBURTON said there had beettofthe
instance brought forward of the bad worhiegno I°,
and he should therefore give it his suPP'obtrfistl?
opinion the lion. Gentleman (Mr.Borthwicli)° 7he '5 te‘
made careful inquiries before coming down,t:ereo4l4
and making the statement he had Sone. ',„reene:,tr
a tittle of evidence to support any of the e"Viicl e•
one; and therefore he trusted the House " thof
induced to take any step which might letu.l a off3l
scinding of the Anatomy Act, or the buYttl_eo
iiej
opposition or the agitation of any such 111
stirve"
Roberts.
Alderman COPELAND said he certaintifjoit'iti:Ol"
some weight to the declarations of the Rigte hod 11`
tleman (Sir James Graham), who stated 03 tor,
tut, d inquiry, but to what had fallen frOeoald 01,,f
Gentleman opposite (Mr. Warburton) he gent o)
tech any importance whatever. That 0012. fle' tb.
should refer to the evidence taken before
,theaving cefir
Towns' Committee, and then, instead or syl be ,0
was only one case of wrong-doing, be wee,o,eich'io
pelled to admit there were hundreds, all eti'd elcsiion'
(Alderman Copeland's) opinion, demanue De°
searching inquiry. For these reasons ei°lle
th'''tr
support the motion for a Committee
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said he bad al" no
that by the rules and usages of that Hotie, able et,
of the Crown was allowed to refer to reP°rtshearJj
not upon the table of the House.—(Bear' otntecoo,;‘,
Right Hon. Baronet (Sir J. Graham) babe 10,0';
the result of the Commission of InquirY but 14 tl's.‘
tuted was the acquittal of Dr. Somerville report, thn
3tc
I)uncombe) wished to know where the
nol
Committee was ? It was not fair or fa re, AlibeeP
Right Hon. Gentleman to come down t"e e" ver 01'
from reports of which the House had ti paPia
possession. Such conduct as that now biel°lgiotioe was,:
the Government would create great inuiga-a thig•t,)
country, as it was evidently their wish--ward'oltite'Di
medical subject, he might be allowa.edvetrhye:-(bro::::::0::
evidently their wish to "burke" inquirYi Leen
He must say he was sorry the subject bet deliet.'t, tlt`;t
before the House—it was, at least,
a dangerous one ; but as it had been slat, the e bcsee
could only deal with it so as to arrive hey vfe,rl. to *.4,1
falsehood of the matters stated. This t•
dui.' ber"
to do ; and therefore he should feel it h .ajefe
of • for the motion of the Hon. Gentleman, the a tel:
Evesham.
ctb
sure.
tt
courser Leo.
If every
JOHNyh t RUSSELL
determine
special inquiry, the consequence would
Act were, as now desired, to be In.a.°ol,etelsete:Areos;ll;i;
the law, and the consequent return to
rsago to,
those horrible crimes which some .1e.1" rode oto
made money by the sale of the b.el" of the by,,„
subject
td
wtabsethpautbsloicm
emipnadr.tieos One assoseret,r:soisonifilthiveopro-sooi;
of the
trihvnieei hdb ratesi lepwe
ocitrlthilt I°o4
eoei e :
Why, then, what were the guar their clut7„,jetZ;
stantlfll° lideisp'ed?
lcs
(Hear, hest lee, but cad' os
quiringabout? inLteottemcasbe,e
acnomd,p
jeflleirduteo, dint),
the delinquent party.—
House would not consent to a C°lnmiht 11°°' 6 bad
subjects to the authority of the Iligwas surey_re
opposite (Sir J. Graham), ho, he
o„ ,
_ought Leloutto 51;,,
efficient inquiry made into complainta.pr the peril:osi'
He implored the House not to tike r
s ffielelitnsb"l
hat It resscoes
dwehsiicrhedthitetHo Hon. Gentleman,
General JOIINSON thought t no
had been made out for inquiry. lie ", a c cante
ground of objection to the granting 01
the ember .0'
cal

all events.
Mr. BORTHWICK having replied, ,
The House divided, when there appeare<,
For the motion ...........................
Against it . ................................
Majority against the motion ...... of
ESTABLISHED CHURCH OF
Mr. WARD then rose to bring forward t"
-r, ,tlo,'fee`
which he had given notice, rcs -eeting the —,OlllO,
Church of Ireland. He aid ithat nobadr sea der
more strongly than he did the diffictlitY
to
sponsibility which attached to any •e7lOll.
the present circumstances of England and '