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vince Of Munster alone, there were seVen or eight unions toge.
where there were nd Churches to go to, and nn mint iter to
attend-. it was impossible that the Prdtestant Religion should
maintain itself where that was the case. Since the Other night,
he had Understood that, in the pariah of Kilkenny, td *lnch
allusion had then been Made, neithet Rector nor Cerata had
been seen for many years. In many other parishes there Were
neither churches nor ministers. Nu*, the zeal of Roman Ca..
tholic Clergymen *as truly praiseworthy. They attended
people of their oWn persuasion with the, greatest degree di' as.
siduity, Whilst Pititestant Ministers in the same districts
paid no atientidri whatever to the Members of their thumb.
The Noble Earl Cdncluded by moving " That a ;Commit-
tee be appointed to inquire into the state of the Church in
The Earl of If A ItROWBY did ndt conceive that the Noble
Earl had laid sufficient grounds for WA motion. The Noble
Earl had, in fact; a complete answer to it in his hands at the
moment When he made it. For in the Report which he held
'gold be found every kind of information on the subject.—
A great number of churches and glebe houses had been
erected of 'stele= in the county of Allyn:der, and to agree
to a motion like the preient would be to cast a Partial and
undeserved slur on the whole body of the Protestant Church in
Ireland. ;
The Bishop of FERNS had had so abort a none() of the Noble
Earl's motion, that he, had not had Mile to communicate with
Ireland for inforniation bn the subject. But when lie looked td
their Lordships' table, he sew returns of all the Unions lately
Made in Irelautiof hOse which had been dissolVed, and to'
the authority under which they had been dissolved--which
gave every necessary information, on every point excepting
the proceedings which were now going do In Ireland. The
Right Rev. Prelate then contended, that the number. of acres
contained-in a parish did ndt Alma a fair Means ofj udging whe.
titer it required more than one church. A pariah of ten thou-
sand acres.might be so dispciiied in a circle, that not one of its
Inhabitants would beat a greater disunite than Wive miles from
itS Centre. The Right Rev, Prelate then stated several cases
to show that
had beenatUnion imagined. i
Unions were so pirootie liticti%eto chute who held
alit Diocese of Cashel, since
11120, there had been only seven Unioni, and none of them con.
stated of more than two parishes. lie knew that Many appli.
cations for money, to build churche., had been made to the
Board of First Fruits, but he also knew that many of those
came ftOtti individUals who did not belong to the parishes Where•
they called for acconmlodatien. He recomineoded that instead
of diSsolving Unions, Chapels of Eu4e should be .built, and. he
was convinced that the survey now going on in Ireland would
do more benefit to the Church of that country, by shottibig what
could be done from the shape of parishes, Matt any other nice.
sure which might be in contemplatiOn.
The Earl of KINGSTON contended that he had established
sufficient grounds for his Piano!), which, howeyer, he Should not ;
press, and Which he finally agreed. to witintra4.
PEACE PRESERVATION ACI',
The Earl of KINGSTON also rose, pursuant to his notice,
to move for a copy of the information on which, AVilliain Ho.
gan and Patrick Murphy had been taken up by.llls,ior Carter. '
in Ireland, as being parties to the adirder df Franks . Him obi
bect was ttl shot,/ that the business of the Police would ba much
etter dthie in the hands of the Local Magistracy Of the County,
than in those of the Constables appointed under the Peace pre. '
nervation Act, under which Act the Magistrates there deprived
bf all power, and the districts were it was put in force were
loaded. with a heavy expence. The Noble Earl then read an
Cider liom the Lord Littitenant, directing that in future con: ;
stables should not attend any fair unless aectimpanied by one
or two Magistrates. In consequence of this order several riots
had taken place, and lives had been lost Mane ofthem—at felts,
without any interposition On the part of the Police, though the
constables:4odd ivithin a short distance of the scene of action.
• Such intetference with the Local Alaglitracy was Injurious to
the peace' bf the country.
The Eari of LIVERPOOL could not'enter at present into
the Wiestion, whether it were preferable to allow die Police or
the Magistrates to act; hut from what he k;iew of the Noble
larquis at the head of the Government of Ireland, and of the
Right Honourable Gentleman who acted tie Secretary, he was
convinced that nothing, but what was wise and proper should he
done. As to the particular motion, it Was not one in which it
became Parliament at present to Interfere, 1f
.the partici had.
been Injured, thej, had a remedy in a court of'raw, which was
the fen; course for them to follow.
The Earl of LIMERICK stated, that in districts where the
constables employed were not sttflictently numerous to act, his
Majesty's troops had orders td attend,. and to giVe all the as-
sistance which might be deethed necessary.
.The Earl of KIMISTON had moved for information, be.
Cathie he believed that there was no infbrmation, and that
William Hogan and Patrick Murphy had been taken sip, thiv.
fined during fiVe Whole months without being alloWeti O.; give
iinthiltimately discharged as innocent, without any 14i-el
charge against them.
The Ltirl of 1,1 VEItPOOi. observed, Mat an atroclods Mut..
der had been committed, 'and that individhals had been taken
tip, whether properly or not, he could not say, as having "I.'er'..
petrated the crime. It' it was improperly, they had their redres
in a Court of law, and the application ought not be made
to the House, for he did nut see how the -House cofild deal
with it.

The, motion was then put and hegatived.—Adjourned.

tiousE oVcommoNs'.

Mr. BROW NLOW pfesented a petition froth the Chanthei
bt' Commerce at Belfast, complaining of the high rate of Post-
age frodi thi,_A country to that place, tntii praying for a speedy
alteration. The Hon. Gentleman stud, that as the subject Was
under consideration, and a report would be made upon it, he
would nut trouble the House by enlarging on the subject ; but
hu trusted that when it came betbre the 'Muse in anotherlorm,
it would meet with that due and conliderate attention Which it
merited.

Sir .1. NEWPORT supported the petition. lie stated the
Post Office charges were in violatithi of the Articles of the
Unittre—Ordeteil to be printed. •
Mr. BROWN LOW presented a petition from the 'Manu-
facturers and tithere engaged in the Linen Trade, who were in
the habit of attending the Fairs at Armagh, complaining of the
Tolls exacted from them.—Ordered to he printed.
Alderman WOOD brouellt up a Bill for the AbolitiOn of
Tithes in the Parish of St. Ghee Cripplegate, and making a
provision in lieu of thene—Read a first time:
AIIOI4ITION OF itALAVERY.
Petitions praying for the abolition of Slavery from Amp.;
thill, front hie Congregation of the Protestant Dissenters of
North Shields, from the Freeholders of Surrey, from the Inhae
bitants of Rantsbury, from the County of iterry, from the
lnabitants of the Towns of Trowbridge and )Bishop Stopforth,
from Arbroath and Cemelford, which were laid on the table
rind ordered to be_printed.
CURRENCY OF SCOTLAND.
Three petitions were presented against any Alteration in the
Currency of that kingdom, fiorn the Borough of Ayr.
. Similar petitions were presented from the Provost and other
ling ktettes of Glasgow, from the Merchants of Oreenuek,front
the .11agistratee and others of the town SelKirk, front the
in-
habitants of Kilmarnock, :aid front the inhabitants of the toOn
of Dumfries.— The petit ioriS were ofdered to be printed.
EDINBURGH REPREENTATION,
Mr. A BERCROAI BY presented a petitiOn signed by tip-
Wards of 8,000 inhabitants of the City of Edinburgh, complain-
ing of the mode of Election of their Representatives in Parlie-
ment. The Hon. tientletnan grave notice of his intention to
liet
e
wbritiangmi)ne
aware bf.t;
wiriatttearuttChloprliitaytitlitgle I
ci I!(::rip..,,i)tr•aettii(o)rtli of them,
appointed
ftepreserstation:
Sir U. CLIiiRK *as very glad that the lion. Gentleman had
given notice of his intention ofbringing forward his motion, lie
regretted, however,
atowtttiteofelxitin,i,t3inicannitywr for
odnathtitht
nett city, en
iigbhetitliaseielte iir would
iil.are
dhave been
totgti)
the lion. Oentleteart who plvellud the pethion, which exile-
nation could have been notified to the compleinants without
their putting themselves to the Inconvenience of drawing up a
petition,. and the consetptene troftble tolleiting eignattires.
tt appeered to him to be; a verbatirn copy of die same'petitton
that I,„a beep presented three years afro, Ile telt convilictd
niertier of electinl the
tivec ut' that city,
te: )11,
many.: rrlet::yo:ti:hts:eit
returned
etivit nitoe:tdnhiibGentleman cnniphiined
r. 10.,. a appointing the Member -Who wits to represent
the hands iii' t ~r Cox-
r plates which
pot riot seal Inform hint that almost all the Boroughs were
managed in the tame *ay: The Corporation of Liverpool, anti
ers, atone bud the an.
nointment of these Menibers, and the householders hail very
littlelie certainly thought,
owever, and he wait
that l rib
,lad
o itr
'lrintotov4t eh- t())rn'te tit ton tes.
olinterfere whenever any

grui4 case of unfairness at elections could be made out,iis•in the
caic ilo! VirittOttund election.
lf Cate dtd not, think that One case of a badlimariaprej
election was td be eitalilithed tis a precedent for others, which
wit* apparentlyt e t afgutnent the film.. Baronet onposite.:
He did not Mean ter an.insiant toSay that there trait the slightest •
imputation of unfairnetii.to be united to the proceedings at the
election* ofany of the BbroughiL
thelkon; Baronet loulalhidad
id. Ilevoilieless, he,thouflrt thht the City of Edinburgh had
a right to petition against any thing by which they were ag-
grieved without tieing obliged to cohfonn to the regulations ,of
the Borthiglis in England. The interest of the country. Called
for,a acrtittny into these things, and he (Air. Hume) for one
wished it as much as hit Hob. Friend Who had pregenied the
petition. '!'Mere Voile thinga going on in the Wrought of Scot-
land which ought m be done away with, in spite of all. that
had been said about. the strictest attention which was paid to,
the system of electiOn. lie wouldstiPport the petitiOn of .hit
lion. friend. because he•thouglit it was a thing-of the greatest
import to the country he belonged to.
Air. A BERUROAIIII', in moving "that thelietition be
printed," beggedrq it;iture the House that it fairly represented.
the sentiments eft' the respectable inlialthants of Ediohurgli.......
The lion: Birdnet, he sad, acted Consistently as for its own
putty, but he did not offer any arguments to justify the justice
of the wisdom of the preterit system.
Sir ft. FERGUSON made a sew observatiOnS as to the es;
pediency of. Refintit.
The petition was ordered to be
PARLIAMENTARI REk ORM. .• .
Lord .1. RUSSELL gave notice, that on the .27th of Aprit
he would move tin leave to bring in a Bill for the
fillip)** dr,
effecting a Reform in Parliament.
CORN . ,
Mr. H Ulll e. presented a pe4ition from tjui Inhabitanti or
Glasgow, and several other towns, fir the; repeal, of_the Corn.
Laws. The Hon. Member read a few pat'itages, in which the
petitioners stated that work, ter which they formerlY received'
3s. Dd., now produced no more than 31d.; that in this condition
of distress they looked terWaril to Sonic terrible eruption ; that
they began to feel the boridt of affixtion broken .down, and,.
feared their hearts would Ultimately', be hardened to a state of
remorseless obduracy. • , Mr. Cutt WEN' supported the prayer al the petition. ' .
Mr. H. SUM NElt, eery regard' ter the manufacturing
interests, yet thotight that the landed ititeroos were fully as
entitled to attention. The disties:tet Of tile termer class arose
riot from the high price of cotn, for corn was not now dear, but
from the clictimitance of 'baiter manufacturers,having locked
up their capital. lie objected to the language of the petition,"
at Importing a Menace of rebellion.
A AlEstuEtt, whose name we could not learn, stated the
high prices of provisions at the present day, and said that he
considered the words of the petition as the limper language of
diitress and not of Menace.
Air. MA ritlltLY thOught the Hon. Member for Stirrey.was
too severe upon the petitlonera. Great alloWane.e thould• be
made for men Who Were enduring the horrors of starvation.
The alteration of the Corn Laws would produce et t wo.teld; be-
nefit. In the first case it would cheapen food ; and teetinilty
ano less desirable object—it Would equalive the price of labou*r.,
lie hoped petitioht would be sent ht from every niantifacturing
district. •

Mr. Brxwicie followed on the sathe side.
Mr. H. SUMNER eltplained, aignlng that the elitist of
triisa could not arise frtim the price of wheat, which was sutii:
cientlt lo*. • '
Mr. HUME again read the passages of the petition, to skew
that they committed nothing like a threat. He Considered the.
language of the petition to be quite retipectlid; and if it were
nett so; he wbuld not havepresented it.
l• Mr. PEEL thought that no advantage could be derived from
such discussions of the subject. The Hon. Member for Aber:
Been seemed to have considered the language of the Petition a
specimen of tine PititinW--(a laugh!-.-.though rather too highly
painted. But such discussions were only calculated to produce
asperities in the minds of those otitside the Muse ; and It would
surely be better to approach the subject cooly and deliberateli
011 the proper occasion.
Mr. CALCHAFT said, that it would be impossidt to re-
press the voice of the people. He thought the fin/ lay with
tiovertnuent. There -tiviis ti .getio*al .iiiiitorsisnding that the
ft iAlit lion. tientlethanopptfille, the Presidentthe.ftuard of
Trade, would have brought on tlic question Oita Session. 111.
Miners might indeed have good ground Mt tait un,
but as the questitio must ultimately come betbre the lEouie,
nothing could be Wtitse than postponing it froth year to year.
tientlemen would Certainly be called upon tO declate their sen
tituents on the stihjeet tit the electitint, Whenever ttuj➢, thing like
a popular election took place; end therefore there could be nd
use in the poittutnetnent so far as that e4ent NM regarded: To;
a propbsitihn for repealing the ietirn Laos, Minlstertt *bold
perhaps, reply, that it change in the Currency had been intros
thiced, but he wonld ask who tampered told) the chi-NM:yr- it
would now seem as if rilinistera had made the alteration Horan
excuse to relieve them With the necessity of interfering with
the Corn question, The flight Honourable Secretary ttatisaid
that there was no Use in aletle.litiott discuasions ; .but the .tact
was, all they Walltad CtS tti be made ;twat if of the sentiments
of Ministers. The people's militia' would , thereby trim.
quilized in the case of the Silk question, a mere'vute
Lament set the matter completely sr rest, Be. regretted that,
the petitionera were in so distressed a state, but ,they might
he assured that the price of labour did nut depend on that of

n•'
Mr. Secretary PEEL said that the Objectioni,which had bees"
matte, were all beside his observations. Ile did not deprecate
discussion, but such discussion as could only excite ft:l4'l'l6C* in
the minds of those who orgued the subject. It should he ad.
mined, that Slinisters aktal more properly in reservitg them.
selves for the main question, thin hy delivering their opinions
on the occasional Presentation or the figurative petition.
The petition was ordered to he
', CORONERS' FEES: '
11Ir. Secretary PERI. presented a petilioh from the ,Cqualrfs'
of the County of Devon, praying for an encrease in theie allow.
ance. The Hight lion. tientleman deelurtal, that by presenting
the petition, he did not necessarily join the prayer whieli it pre.
lerred ; but he thought it proper, that it should be refeired to it
Committee on County Aides.
Ordered to be referred to the Committee.
COURT OF CHANCERY.
presentedm
A Report wus fro the CA' mitnissioners appointed
to inquire into the practice io the Court of Clitineery'..,
CRIMINAL LAWS.
.314. Secretary PEEL rose to cell the attention of the House
to a sleet or great importance to the rulininiSstratioli or jostler.
Its deta la, indeed, Might not be of so interesting a nature as
other topics which they were in the habit of discussing ; but as
the measure wbieti tie wait about to propose was designed for the
security of property for the interests en politic morality, its
details Had a claim upon serious consideration. 'l4he House) on
this occasion, had tt debt to discluirge, for of all other questions
of legislation, the principles or criminal law had been least dia.'
cussed. Polttlrul topics had or late so entire)y engros§eti atteti., •
tion, that it might be said •" inter (Irma syeitt lire."' fie
had
two propositions to submit to the consideration of the llouie•--
The first wiisfor the consolidation into one statute of all the law*
which were enacted to prohibit the crime of theft ; and the
second referred to a similar coniolidation of the statute* affect.
ing necessaries anti other offenders. The Objeet which he
wfared to accoMplish in both cases was to simplify the law,
which all were bound to obey. It was se perfectly conformable
to the dictates of_eOmmon rie.,ae, that a law designed to regulate
the conduct of those who were not lawyers, should be clear and
intelligible to every capacity, that it did not Seem necessary
to appeal to any authority in support of the proposition,
Hut yet authorities were nOt wanted, and thoire'or eminent
lawyers, who were for a consplidation 01 the Station, some Of
Whi.rn undertook to simplify the Criminal Code. The first anti
high eNt of those Itutiturinets was that of lord Chancellor flacon,'
who, 250 years ago, made A proposal to King Janie* the First,
clearly stating and answering all the objections which could he
raiseti 'spinet consolidation, mind detailing the advantages Whie4
Would How 1.10111 its adoption. 'rho House mightpossiOlY be
unwilling to listen to extracts front the work in which O+e pmn
posal to amend the law was tentained.—(lleaN heir 4ne
tint objection to the plan of amendment wits, that t
was tit:tale t+, as tine existing hew was sufficient Ft trr,.l.ll,nirst
its purposes, itmethat human wit could riot prrr_s:',.,_
.rhe po.sibility or evasion in crows—that forrartirti;e7ll:.
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