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London, England, 1845-06-14 00:00:00

GROUP K.

DEREHAM AND NORWICH RAILWAY.
The Committee on the lines for affording railway accommoda
tit ,n to these districts, continued this morning by the resumption
of evidence on the Deretiam and Norwich Direct project.
Mr. Chamberlayne, examined by Mr. J•MES—Is a very exten-
sity e woollen dealer, resident at Norwich, trading to an amount of
be I:veen 100,0001. and 120,0001. annually ; the majority of goods,
er at least to the amount of 60,0001 , is obtained from Huddersfield.
Ti ,rkshire, and the north, the cost for transit from the former place
be mg 50s. per ton, and the average 555. per ton. 1,000/. a year
la expended by his firm in getting goods to Norwich, one-third of
Co ming via Yarmouth from London. The great amount of the
ex erisive trade carried on in the districts contiguous to Norwich,
fin, Is its way among the towns through which the Direct East
bet chain and Norwich line will pass. Last Saturday, more than
1,1 00 customers visited his shop and warehouse, a vast proporti m
of whom were country people residing in the vicinity of that line,
but no trade of any moment is carried on between Wyndham and
No rwicb, or with any town situate on the diverging line. The
fah abitants of Norwich are unanimous►y in favour of the direct
lint , ; and at a public meeting passed a vote confirmatory of that
pre ,jeet.

.Cross.examined by Mr. ANDREWS, Q.C.—Norwich is the great
stay, ital of the north-eastern districts, and the chief motive of the
tra.lesmen of that town opposing the indirect, line through Wynd-
har n to Dereham is their wish to retain the present extensive trade
to Lhernelves, and excluding it from Lynn.
:By Lord S&NDON—Does not think that the adoption of either
Sine would materially decrease the number of 1,100 customers, who
attend his shop on the market day.
By Mr. COBDEN—The object of the people of Norwich preferring
the direct to the diverging line, is both to accommodate the northern
pply
districts.to Norwi ch and to get the consumption of those parts directed for
su .
Mr. Richard Buller, examined by Mr. JAMES-11 member of
the firm of Buller and Walds, brewers, maltsters, and corolactors
at Norwich. The business has been carried on for the last thirty.
seven years, during the last fifteen of which witness has been con-
neced with it. Upwards of 30,000 quarters of corn, and 3,000
tows of coal are annually imported by the firm at Norwich.
17!,453 tons of coal come into Yarmouth annually, but does not
knew the amount imported at Norwich, but should imagine about
410,000 or 60,000 tons a year arc con Fumed at the latter town.
If the Direct East Dereham and Norwich line were completed,
coals could be carried from Yarmouth to Dereham for 2s. 6d. a
ton; the price from Yarmouth to Norwich being Is., and the pro-
posed rate by rail from Norwich to Dereham, Is. tid. a ton. At
present the coal from Yarmouth is either carried by canal
ha
nersei at. Dgurreiantg ctor,epsee:
or the Yarmouth and Norwich Railway. There
of
Ttr
Winn existing between the two m
were frost last winter the water navigation was closed, when the
rail way immediately raised their traffic fares, and caused great in.
convenience to the districts. The construction of the Direct East
(Dereham line would, in all probability, prolong that competition,
and thus afford a cheaper means of conveyance between Yarmouth
and Dereham and Norwich.
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sir. Ricardo expressed an opinion, that the line by Wyndham
would be just as likely to compete with the water navigation be:ween
Yarmouth and Norwich as the direct line to Derehani, both being
`,dependent pro;ects from Norwich.

Cross-examined by:Mr. ANDREWS, Q. C.—The charge of 2s. 6d.
a ton from Yarmouth to Dereham would not include delivery at
the door, the present price at Norwich for cartage being fts. 6d., be.
sides the cost of conveyance by rail. Knows a bridge called the
Foundry.bridge at Norwich, which ships coming from New-
castle could not pass; they would, therefore, be obliged to
unship their cargoes below that point and transfer them to lighters.
Did not think the coal would be much deteriorated by such frequent
changes. Believes the terminus of the line to Dereham, via Wynd-
ham, is to be situated below the Foundry-bridge, and will, therefore,
avoid the necessity of transhipment.

Mr. Liddellow, examined by Mr. CALVERT, is a cattle dealer of
Colney, a town situate a few miles from Norwich. During the
years 1838, 1839, and 1840, he was toll-collector at the Norwich
market. During the year 1840, 300,000 sheep, paying a toll of
Bd. a score, passed for sale to Norwich; 400 pigs, paying a toll of
10d. a score, and 30 horses, paying 2id., pass weekly to the same
market. The circuitous line from Dereham, through Wyndham,
would not confer the slightest benefit on Norwich, but the direct
rail was calculated to be very advantageous to that town.
Mr. Thomas Burney, examined by Mr. CALVERT—IS proprietor
of Morton Hall, an estate comprising 5,000 acres, in the neighbour.
hood of Attlebridge, and considers the circuitous line by Wyndham
to Dereham would confer no advantages whatever on the dis-
tricts north of the river Waveney, while the direct line, by
becoming a feeder to the traffic existing in those parts, would be
highly beneficial. The terminus of the former line at Norwich
would be most objectionably situated for the cattle, from their being
turned out at the foot of a steep hill, which they would have to
ascend in order to reach the market ; and to the passengers from
their being obliged to pass through the cattle market, when ar-
riving at Norwich, before they could enter the town.
Cross-examined by Mr. GIRDER—Did net think either the
Heldesdon mills, or the inhahitants) of Costessey, Taverham,
Kingland, Morton, Weston, Attlebridge, Aldetford, Great or
Little Witchen law would avail themselves of the Directi East
Dereham line, though in all probability the proprietors of paper and
flour mills in those districts would make use of them.)
John Barber, examined by Mr. CALVERT—IS an extensive grocer
residing at Norwich, and thinks that that town supplies to Suffolk,
Norfolk, and Lincolnshire, more than 9-10ths of the grocery
consumed in those counties, as well as the great proportion of
that used at Lynn. Upwards of fifty tons of cheese and a similarly
large amount of salt is passed annually by him into the adjacent
districts.

Mr. William Wilde, examined by Mr. CALVERT-11 an auc.
tioneer, stover, and dyer, resident at Norwich, having a branch
manufactory at Manchester, conducted by his son. The direct line
would unquestionably confer greater advantages than the diverging
rail to Dereham.

Neither of the latter witnesses were cross-examined by the pro-
moters of the line through Wyndham, and at four o'clock the
Committee adjourned till eleven o'clock tomorrow.

GROUP KK

with one or two landholders on the line, and consequently their op..
position was withdrawn.

The Committee then ordered the room to be cleared, and after
remaining in consultation for upwards of half an hour, strangers
were re-admitted, when—
The CHAIRMAN intimated that the Committee were unani-
mously of opinion that the preamble was proved so far as it
reified to the trunk line, the line to terminate on the south o
Long Eaton and north of Pye-bridge. The preamble was also
proved, as regarded the branches running to Ilkeston and Heanor,
respectively ; but it was not proved in regard to the other
branches. The Committee, at the same time, wished the preamble
to be amended accordingly, and a clause introduced into the Bill re-
serving to the landholders the power of crossing over or under the
course of the railroad to the canal.
Mr. MACAULAY asked if the Committee intended to authorise the
extension of the line to the Mansfield and Pinxton Railway ?
The CHAIRMAN replied in the negative, and reminded the
Learned Counsel that, in coming to a decision on the point of ter-
minus, the Committee had been guided by a desire not to give one
colliery an advantage over another.

The remainder of the day was occupied in considering the various
clauses in the Bill, which, after considerable discussion, were
agreed to with amendments. A clause was introduced giving the
colliers power to make the negatived branch, and the Company
power to make bridges across the canal to accommodate such
branches. The Chairman was then directed to report the Bill
favourably to the House, and the Committee adjourned till Monday

GROUP X.
CAMBRIDGE AND LINCOLN LINE.

ENGINEERING EVIDENCE ON THE AMENDED
SECTION.
At the sitting of the Committee this day,
Mr. Rendall was called, and deposed to the amendments made
in the section on that past of the line where an error was disco.
vered to have been made in the levels, namely, at a distance of 16
miles from Cambridge towards Lincoln. In answer to the question,
he said that when he accepted of the appointment as engineer to
the line, in April last, he requested to be made acquainted
with any errors that might exist in the sections, for
if there were any that would render it difficult to make the line he
would have nothing to do with it ; the section as amended was that
deposited in the Private Bill office, and he made use ef a copy of
the section so amended. Did not in any way make use of that sec.
tion, so amended in his evidence before the Committee in his exa-
mination in chief. The amended section exhibited a compensation
for the loss of level of 10 feet at the distance of 16 miles 1 furlong
from Cambridge, by a horizontal plane of 3 furlongs 11 chains
and a descending gradient of 7 furlongs and 51 chains,
in a gradient of 1 in 215, which made up for the
error of ten feet leas of level at this particular point; up
to that point the original section and the amended section are
identical. The witness then produced a model of the section, by
which he showed, that in order to amend the error, and bring the
line from the point where the error commenced, the whole way on
to Lincoln, to a level with the line, of sixteen miles from Cam-
bridge, he proposed to raise the whole surface of the country ten

feet. In answer to some other questions, as to more minute de-
tails, the witness said, his belief was, that not one section in three
deposited would be found to be so correct as to stand the test of
the scrutinising examination the counsel was now putting him
through. He conceived it was wasting the time of the Committee
to be putting questions to him which could be more satisfactorily
answered by those who made the survey, and who were then in the
room, waiting to be examined as witnesses.
Mr. TRIPP examined the witness on behalf of Mr. Pemberton,
with a view of ascertaining how it was proposed to save the mea-
dows from inundation by the River Cam, at Chesterton, where it
was proposed to build a bridge. The witness said it was to be done
by embankments, varying in height in accordance with the surface
of the country.
The witness was re-examined at some length by Mr. WEBSTER,
with a view to show that Mr. Rendal had received the appoint-
ment of engineer to tLis line so recently that he had not had time
to ascertain whether any error existed or not in the sections.

Mr. R. Stephenson, engineer—Had heard Mr. Rendal's evidence,
and he (Mr. Stephenson) would say that he agreed with him (Mr.
Rendal) in every particular, and could see no difficulty whatever

in earrying out the project, notwithstanding the error. An error
of the same kind occurred on the London and Birmingham Railway
in thedatum line, which was a mere imaginary line, and had nothing
whatever to do with the works.

To Mr. Sergeant KINGLAILE—The correction of the error would
at all events cause an alteration in the works where the error oc.

curred.

To the CommirrEE—A line of railway was never laid down with
reference to the datum line, but with reference to the gradients ;
the datum line was a mere imaginary one.
Mr. Bazolgette, engineer— When the section was deposited, he was
not aware of any error except the omission of marking the radius
in two certain curves ; it was only on summing up the books that

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the error now in question first came to his knowledge.
To Mr. Sergeant KINGSLARE—It was after the section had been
deposited that witness had heard rumours of the error of ten
feet. Cannot say how soon after, but it was a very short tine.
Will not say from whom he had heard these rumours, as that was a
matter of confidence. Witness will now abide by the amended
section, and believes the rest of that section to be correct. It was
Mr. Thompson who took the level at the point where the error was
alleged to exist, and he was accountable for it.

Mr. HILDTARD conceived that this was all evidence that should
only have been gone into before the Committee on Standing Orders,
but, however, he would let it go on.
The CHAIRMAN presumed that this line of cross-examination
would not be persevered in, unless with a •iew to ground some
point on which the opposing counsel intended to rely as objections
to the line being made at all.

Mr. HILDTARD read the standing order, showing that it was
only before the Standing Orders Committee that such evidence as
this could be given.
Mr. Sergeant KINGLLER contended he was in order in this line
of cross.examination, inasmuch as his Learned Friend opposite
was now examining his witnesses upon an amended section, which
had never been before the Standing Orders Committee. He (Mr.
Sergeant Kinglake) sail he would at mace state his object in fol-
lowing up this line of cross-examination—it was this, to show that
there were inaccuracies all along the line, and that, therefore, Mr.
Rendal was not correct in saying that this was the only error.
The CHAIRMAN asked the Learned Sergeant if his object was to
contend that those inaccuracies were such as would be sufficient to
prevent the line being made P

Mr. Sergeant KINGLAKE said that would depend on the extent of
the inaccuracies which they should establish.
Mr. HILDYARD—If that were the object of the Learned Sergeant
he (Mr. Hildyard) did think that nothing could be farther from it
than the frivolous questions put to the witnesses.
The Committee then retired to consider whether they would per-
mit this course to be persevered in, and after a short absence
returned, when

The CHAIRMAN announced that he had been instructed by the
Committee to state that the witness under cross-examination by Mr.
Sergeant Kinglake having been called by Mr. Hildyard, the cross.
examination should be proceeded with.
Mr. Sergeant KINGLIKE said he would endeavour to shorten the
cross-examination as much as possible by resorting to figures.
He then asked the witness as to the state of levels from the 2.lst
mile to the 22d mile 7 furlongs ?—At that part there was a differ-
ence between the original and the amended section of two feet.
At 62 miles 5 furlongs the height of the ground by the original
section was 69 feet. By the amended one it was 75 feet; that
was a cutting of eleven feet deep. At the 81st mile the original
level was 48 feet between the sth and 6th furlong; by the amended
section it was 58 feet.

Mr. Thompson, engineer, deposed to having discovered the error
in question.

Cross-examined—lle discovered it first about January or
February last. Went over the ground again with another person
for the purpose of correcting the errors; after doing so he found
the inaccuracy at the point sixteen miles from Cambridge, already
spoken of, and nothing more.

A witness was next-examined as to the traffic to the town of St.
[yes, after which the Committee adjourned.

GROUP Z.
THE DUBLIN AND GALWAY LINE.

At the sitting of the Committee, Mr. Lynch, formerly a breerer
at Galway, whose evidence was not concluded at the rising of the
Committee last evening, was recalled, and examined by Mr.
TAYLOR—He stated that the cost of conveying a ton of Lliz.r or of
ordinary shop goods from Dublin to Ballinasloe by canal was 205.,
or 21d. per mile the land carriage from Ballinasloe to Galway
was sd. or 6d. per ton per mile. Ihe imports to Gal way during
the last year amounted to 17,18'2 tons, besides such articles as
wine, dried herrings, tobacco, tea, and sugar. in round numbers

the imports amounted to 18,000 tons. The exports during the
same period were 26,6031 tens. From the reports of the Railway
Commissioners, in 1830, it appeared that the imports in that year
were 12,000, and the exports 20,000 tons, showing an increase in
1844 of 50 per cent. on the one and 30 per cent, on the other.

If there were a railway from Galway to Dublin both would be
greatly increased—the imports immediately, and in a little
time the exports would also be greatly increased. There
are two marble quarries in the vicinity of Galway, the black
marble raised in which is of a superior quality. One thousanal
tons were raised in 1838. It is conveyed to Galway, where it is
worked into chimney pieces, &c., from which a great portion of it
would be transmitted to Dublin, by railway instead of by sea. Two
hundred fairs were held in the county of Galway during the year.
Ile had taken pains to ascertain the number held within tour or
five miles of the proposed line, and found them to be eighty. A
certain portion of the cattle, horses, pigs; sold at these fairs
would go by the line. The railway would offer great facilities to
those transacting business at these fairs. Galway and Ross-
common are breeding counties, and cattle are sent to Dublin,
Meath, and Kildare, for the purpose of being fatted for the
English market. The fisheries at Galway are of an important
character, about 500 boats being engaged in the trade. The cost
of transmitting a ton of fish to Dublin by the mail was 181. 13s. 4d.;
by the line it would be considerably less. The fisheries could be
greatly extended. The trade in seaweed, which was highly valued
by the poorer classes as manure, especially for potatoes, was con.
siderable, as many as 5,000 boats, carrying about three tons each,
being engaged in connexion with it. To witnesses and others
coming to the assizes in Galway, and to those coming to the
markets, of which there were two a week, the railway would offer
great advantages.

Mr. Martin. 31. P. for the county of Galway, said he had in-
terested himself in the fishing trade of Galway, in which occupa-
tion many of his tenants were engaged. Taking the average
earnings of the iioo boats engaged in the trade at 351., the total
would be 17,5001. The total earnings of the whole of the beats
could not be less than 30,0001. Cod, ling, pollock, turbot, and
salmon, from the rivers, abounded in large quantities. There were
also lobster and oyster fisheries. The evidence of the Hon. Mem-
ber went to show that the proposed railway would offer great faci.
lities to the population and to the extensive trade carried on.
Mr. 31`Lachlin, formerly M.P. for the borough of Galway, and
one of the harbour and town commissioners of that town, and well
avquainted with its trade, considered that a railway would be of
great advantage to the county.

Mr. N. Williams was well acquainted with the steam navigation
of the channel, which was now in the course of improvement. The
railway would be of great service to the trade of the channel and to
the interior of Ireland, that manufactures would be Introduced into
remote parts, and that it would give employment to a great mass of
the industrial population. The canal was wholly inadequate for
the trade, and was badly managed. The sympathy of the inhabi-
tants was certainly not with the canal, but with the proposed line,
besides a great portion of the goods went by land conveyance.
Admiral le Poet* French, residing at Ballinasloe, and holding the
ancient office of " Baron of the Fairs" in that part of the county,
uncle of Lord Clancarty, and having charge of his estates at Bal-
litiasloe, the population of which is 5,000, said there were two fairs
yearly there, one in May and the other in October ; the October fair
was the largest fair in the world for cattle and sheep. The bay of
Galway could accommodate ships of any size. The Cashel Railway
was nothing more than a trunk line. The proposed line would be
of great benefit to the trade. Could not understand how any one
could ask the question, whether the proposed line could be of
advantage to the county ?

Mr. AUSTIN—WouId you like to see a gentleman who entertains
such a doubt? Witness—lndeed I should,—(Laughter.) Put
him up and examine him.—(Roars of laughter.)
The Rev. D. Arcy, vicar of St. Nicholas parish, Galway, proved
that in the event of the construction of a railway, mills would be
called into existence, the water power in the lake and canals in the
county being considerable ; that the fisheries would be greatly im-
proved, as also the trade generally. The great difficulty at present
of finding a market for the produce of the town would be removed,
as improved means of transit would be obtained. A railway was
the best, perhaps the only means, of developing the industry of the
county, and of calling into existence the energies of the unem-
ployed.

By Mr. Rowe—Anticipated immense passenger traffic from
Galway and other towns on the route.

Mr. D. Vernon, High sheriff of the county of Galway, and Mr.
H. C. Hancock, of Athlone, were in favour of the line.
Lord CLaNcaaTir thought there could not be a question as to
the utility of the project. There was an unanimity of feeling in
favour of it against the landowners of the county. The present
internal communication was most imperfect. which he was of
opinion would be remedied by the line. He looked upon the project

THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY MORNING, JUNE 14, 1845.

in a national point of view, and considered that the benefits which
would accrue to the country would he very great.
Mr. Brown gave evidence with respect to the traffic tables.
The Committee then adjourned until Monday.

GROUP L.
PORTSMOUTH .TMOSPHERXC MINE.

The Committee on this group resumed this mornleig—Mr. E B.
Denison in the chair—when Mr. Alexander, on behalf of the pro.
rooters, called Mr. Gibbons, engineer of the Dublin and King-
stown Railway, and also: of the Dublin and Dalkey Atmospheric
Railway, which line he had laid out. On this railway, which wasa
mile and five-eighths long, the worst gradient was 1 in 57, but
over this the engines were able to carry trains of 40 tons, at a
rate of 45 miles an hour, without any extra power. The sharpest
curve was one of a radius of 527 feet. The railway had completely
answered all the expectations of its projectors, and as he .vas con-
nected with the locomotive line between Kingston and Dublin,
he had fully tested the respective merits of both plans, and he
decidedly preferred the atmospheric. On that principle
there was not only no necessity for sending the
monster trains, but there were no petty annoyances either from
noise or smoke. The trains could be sent with as pinch frequency
as was desired without any chance of collision. The line bad been
opened ever since the autumn of 1843. The tube was a fifteen.
inch one, and supplied all the convenience that was requisite. He
had seen the Direct Portsmouth line, and believed it to he a highly
satisfactory one, and one which would answer all the expectations
of the promoters. A great saving was eff •cted in the preservation
of the permanent way; indeed, in the Dalkey line during the last
year there was no expense whatever, except the laying down several
new rails. The piston carriage altogether passed over 3,050 yards
each journey during 15 hours in the day, the trains running every
quarter of an hour, two sets of men being employed so as to enable
them to relieve each other. The trains were carried from one
end to the other by the stationary engines, and returned by the
force of gravity alone. The average number of the carriages on
the atmospheric railway was 3.75, carrying a weight of 18 tons ;
on the locomotive line there were 7i carriages, with a weight of
38 tons. The gradients on the line were-1 in 100, for 160
yards ; 1 in 104, for 215 yards; 1 in 115, for 770 yards ; 1 in
131, for 280 yards ; 1 in 166, for 610 yards ; 1 in 218, for
170 yards ; and lin 328, for 390 yards. The expenses during the
eleven months from March in last year to February in this,were—
for coals, 467/. Os. 3d. ; for engines, 3521. ss. 6d. ; for oil,
43/. Os. 4d. ; for mechanics, 1971. 3s. 4d. ; and for materials,
1271. 125.; cost of engineer, 1271. 12s. The cost of coals was

from 310. to 38s. a ton, and coke 165., but these prices were the
result of a deficient market. The atmospheric railway could carry
sixty, tons with as much ease as the locomotive could carry twenty
tons. Mr. Cubitt stated on Thursday that the difference between
the gradient of 1 in 80 and 1 in 100 was as an 18-inch tube was
to a 15-inch tube. But in this he was wrong, for it really was as
2,240 divided by 80, and the same number divided by 100. The
results therefore were, that while it required a tractive power
of 281b5., that required for 1 in 100 gradient was 221 Albs.
The difference between the 18. inch tube and the 15-inch
tube was as the squares of their diameters, the area of
the former being 245 cubic inches, and that of the
latter 176—50 that the respective powers of the two tubes
was as 176 is to 254. He had laid down the tube on the Croydon
line, and he was satisfied that the wear and tear on that line would
be much less than that en the Dalkey line. With respect to the
power to work a single tube line both ways lie was perfectiy satis-
fied that it might be done. On the Dalkey line they could hear
the first blow of the pumping-engine at the ether end.
As soon as this was heard the vacuum was evidently
beginning to he formed. On that line there was a barometer con-
nected with the tube, and as simultaneously as the eye could ob-
serve the sound of the blow of the pump and the fall in the mercury
was perceived. He thought that the safety of the atmospheric prin-
ciple was much greater than that of the locomotive, for most of the
accidents on the latter occurred at the stations, at which places
the atmospheric trains were quite out of the way of each other,and lie
believed that a train might start with perfect safety every hour
from each end on the Portsmouth line. Indeed, in his opinion,
there was no need for a double line, unless the traffic were as
numerous as that of the omnibuses between the Bank And Piccadilly.
The shares of the Dalkey line had so increased in value in conse-
quence of the facilities given to the citizens of Dublin for getting into
the country and back, that those which, four years ago, were at
70/., could now be quoted at 250/., and were not to be had even at
that price. In his opinion, the formation of a double atmospheric
line would be a mere waste of expense. The engineering staff for
each train was three, one of which was a breaksman. The object
of the break was to stop the wheels, by rendering that a sliding
motion which before was a rolling one. The engineering staff, in-
deed, was less than on a locomotive line, for the man at the engine-
station acted for all the trains during the day.

Mr. Brunel had looked at the sections, and thought them good.
He had seen the estimates for the line, and thought the prices quite
sufficient. A single line would carry a very large traffic, and he
thought that it would certainly serve all the purposes of the traffic
on the line. Fifteen trains a day each way, might pass with perfect
safety. An 18-inch tube would convey very heavy trains, cf from
40 to 60 tons, 40 or 50 miles an hour with perfect case, and he
saw no difficulty whatever in the gradients, for much steeper gra-
dients might be very easily worked. With a moderate traffic, the
expenses would be in favour of the atmospheric line, and the dif-
ference would be increased as the traffic increased. He was ac-
quainted with the country to Portsmouth, and he felt assured that
trains might be run as often as the public would require, and the cost of
working would be not more than 35 per cent. Certainly if the returns
were 170,000/. or 180,0001., 35 per cent. would meet all the
expenses. He gave these 15 trains to the 14 or 15 hours in the
middle of the day, but he thought that on all lines communicating
with London there must be night trains, and some of these would,
of course, be goods' trains.

To Mr. OswaLD—Mr. Brunel stated that the steepest gradient
on the South Devon line was 1 in 41 for a distance of four miles,
and 1 in 52 on a plane of ten miles.

To Mr. MILNES—Mr. Brunel stated that he thought the loco-
motive principle capable of considerable improvement.

To Mr. OSWALD Mr. Brunel) replied, that they had a gradient
beyond Swansea, on the South Wales line, of lin 70. They had
several gradients of 1 in 60 on the Great Western line, and its
branches, which were now aetually worked. He conceived that
the application of the atmospheric principle presented nothing
more than mechanical difficulties, and would be easily overcome.
To Mr. M. MILNES Mr. Brunel stated, that though a locomotive
atmospheric engine had not yet been used, nor was it what was
termed the atmospheric principle, yet he would not say that it
would not be applied. He thought it very unsafe to say anything
could not be done, for so many things had been done which it was
said could not be done, that he thought it would not be wise to
say that anything could not be done. In safety certainly the
atmospheric principle was far superior to the locomotive. He
thought that in estimating the permanent way they ought to take
the original derartments about as equal in the first instance.

Mr. Keene, a land-agent and valuer at Godalming for the last
twenty-five years, stated that he had looked over the line from
Epsom to Portsmouth, and thought that 143,9701. 14s. was a
sudicient sum for the land. The traffic from the Petersfield side
of the country, through Godalming, was at least four times as much
as that from Midhurst and Petworth before the Gosport branch
was made. He had presided at two meetings at Godalming, as
also of another of the Town Commissioners, at which the bulk of
those present were in favour of the Portsmouth Atmospheric line.
In his opinion this line was the best, hoecause it was the richest and
most populous. There were a great number of mills and manu.
factories in it, an it was totally unprovided with water carriage.
There were twenty. seven corn-mills and ten paper-mills on the road.
He was the tithe apportioner of Godalming, the parish of which
contained between 6,000 and 7,000 acres, and was not aware that
the bulk of the landowners of Godalming were opposed to the line,
though a few, he believed, were so. At present he thought that
the traffic on the Midhurst and Petworth road and the Petersfield
road were about equal.
The Committee then adjourned till Monday at twelve o'clock.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT,
HOUSE OF LORDS, June 13.
Their Lordships met at Five o'clock.
Several petitions were presented against the grant to May.
nooth.

Lord CAMPBELL blamed the Noble Lord (Lord Broug-
ham) for raising the question of the reversal of judgment, who,
although not a Member of the Government, as far as he knew
—( Laughter )—rose up and answered the speech of the Noble
Lord who brought forward the motion. One of the principal
°Ejections raised was that the jury list had been fraudulently
made up, and that the parties could not have had a fair trial.
Lord STANLEY said the assertion was made, but it was
not proved.

Cord CAMPBELL held that it had been proved. The
fact was admitted in the demurrer. He referred to the judg.
ment of the Learned Judges to show that what he had stated
was correct,

The LORD CHANCELLOR considered it very painful
to enter into a controversy with respect to the judgment of
that House in the case of Mr. O'Connell, which was reversed
subsequently on technical grounds. He considered that no
one could misunderstand this. Saying that the judgment was
reversed on technical grounds alone, inferred that they had
been acquitted on other grounds, whereas the parties w-re
liberated from the punishment to which they were sentenced by
a slip in the entering of judgment. He felt confidence in the
correctness of his decision, and regretted that any judgment
which he had pronounced, after mature deliberation, should
be called into question, as he considered it had been.
After a few words from Lord DENMAN and Lord BROUGHAM
in explanation,

Lord STANLEY said, that notwithstanding the discussion
that had taken place with respect to the reversal of the judg-
ment he still held his opinion that it was reversed on the
technicalities in the case. He did not understand the speech
of the Noble Lord who brought forward the subject, and was
of opinion that it would only have the effect of aggravating the
feelings of the Irish people towards England, more especially
at a time when a better feeling was being promoted between
the two countries. He considered that no object would be
answered in bringing forward the subject. He denied that
the assertion of the Noble Lord with respect to the
difficulty of obtaining a fair decision from a jury
was true, and considered such an assertion would also aggravate
the feelings of the people of Ireland towards England. Politi-
cal and religilus feeling might in some degree interpose wilh
trial by jury, but that was no argument in favour of the abro-
gation of trial by jury in Ireland. The question of the state
of the country must be left to the Executive, who would not
fail to see that the law was not violated with impunity. But
the Noble Lord had not shown that the state of the country
was caused by the neglect of Government. With respect to
his quotations from newspapers, the acquittal of a person pro-
secuted for libel or for violating the law, was looked upon as
a triumph, and the person prosecuted as a martyr, and did
more injury than could bo easily conceived.—( Hear. ) With
regard to the state of the courts of Leitrim the Government
had taken every precaution for the protection of the peace,
increasing the number of magistrates and police, and he
thought they should be able to suppress any of those distur-
bances without seeking any further powers of their Lordships.
With regard to party processions, the Party Processions Act,
which had expired, was in every sense of the word one-sided,
and was introduced to suppress the dangerous proceedings of
the Orange societies, which caused much bloodshed and po-
litical and religious animosities among the people. ft was not
the intention of the Government to renew the Party Processions
Act, believing that there was no ocmsion for doing so, as the
time, he believed, had gone by when such a law was necessary.
The Ea.l of WICKLOW was glad that the Government
did not intend to renew that Act, and blamed the Government
for renewing the Act last year.
The Earl of ST. GERMANS said if they had not done so
parties who might have rendered themselves amenable to the
law would have escaped punishment.
The Marquis of WESTMEATH blamed the Government
for not adopting measures which would give greater security
for the lives and property of persons in Ireland. At the late
assizes at Leitrim great difficulty was experienced in obtrining
convictions on account of the prejudices of juries ; in one cape,
the murder of Captain M'Lough, the jury was taken from the
very class of which the prisoners were members.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE replied, and, after ad-
verting to the State trials and the reversal of the judgment,
concluded by saying that he considered it his duty to bring the
state of the county of Leitrim before their Lordships.
The subject then dropped.
LICENSING TOLL-BARS IN SCOTLAND.
The Duke of ROXBURGH presented a petition from Kelso
against licensing toll-bars in Scotland for the sale of spirituous
liquors.

THE TURNPIKES ROAD BILL.
This Bill went through Committee.
Their Lordships then adjourned.

RUSE OF COMMONS, June 13.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock.
DUBLIN AND DROGHEDA RAILWAY BILL.
The Dublin and Drogheda Railway Bill was read a third
time and passed.
LANCASTER AND CARLISLE RAILWAY.
The Lancaster and Carlisle Railway Bill was read a third
time and passed.

- SHAW'S WATERWORKS BILL.
The report on Shaw's Waterworks Bill was brought up, and
the amendments were agreed to.
GLASGOW, GARNKIRK. AND COATBRIDGE
RAILWAY.
The report on the Glasgow, Garnkirk and Coatbridge Rail-
way Bill was brought up, and the amendments were agreed to.
ABERDEEN RAILWAY.
_.

The Aberdeen Railway Bill was read a third time and
passed. .

DUNDEE WATERWORKS.

The report on the Dundee Waterworks Bill was brought up,
and the amendments were agreed to.
SHEFFIELD AND LINCOLNSHIRE JUNCTION
RAILWAY BILL.

Mr. J. PARKER moved that the Sheffield and Lincolnshire
Junction Railway Bill be removed from Group X, and be re-
ferred to the Committee of Classification. The Bill had been
before the Committeee on Group X for seven or eight weeks,
and the expense to the parties had already been 2,0001.
They had not yet been heard; and, in consequence of the
length to which the proceedings in relation to the London and
York line had run, there was very little probability of their
being heard this session. The railway had been placed in
Group X by a mistake of the Committee of Classification.
The Committee had imagined that it was a competing line
with the London and York, when, in fact, the two lines did not

come into competition.
Sir R. INGLIS, as Chairman of the Committee of Classi
_ .

fication, did not appear to defend this Act. Admitting the
classification to have been wrong, still this Railway
Company had acquiesced n it for seven weeks—
had gone before the Committee, and now at the eleventh
hour, when perhaps they found that the cross-examination of
the witnesses was rather against the scheme, they wished to
be removed from the group, and to have all the work done over
again. They should, if they had felt they were placed in a
wrong group, have applied before the Committee was struck.
They now came too late, and he hoped the House would re-
fuse the application.
Mr. GRAN VILLE VERNON was a shareholder in the
railway, and as such supported the application. The object of
it was not so mush to protect themselves against the expense,
as to enable them to be heard during the present session,
which would be impossible if they continued in Group X, as
the London and York line had not yet concluded their case. He
denied that it was a competing line with the London and
York.

111 r. WILSON PATTEN, as a member of the Committee
of Classification, would state that the Committee had en-
deavoured to lessen the number of Bills referred to Group
X, and ht.d particularly considered the case of this railway,
but they had found that it was so completely a competing line
with the London and York, that it was impossible not to refer
them to the same Committee. With regard to the expenses,
they were equal to both parties; and if they went
into another Committee the other railway must follow
them for the purpose of cross-examination. After a
full consideration of the evidence, the Committee of
Ciassificatiun had been reluctantly obliged to place this railway
in Group X, and he hoped the House would uphold the dect.
sion of the Committee of Classification.

Mr. BROTHERTONsaiI the application could not have
been made earlier, inasmuch as it was impossible for the parties
interested to have foreseen that the London and York line
would have occupied so much time.
Mr. ESTCOURT opposed the application. The classi-
fication had been made on the 19th of March, the Committee
had commenced its sittings on the 28th of April, and now, on
the 14th of June, this application was made. It came too late,
and he hoped the House would uphold the decision of the
Committee of Classification.

Gofe";
LIGHT GOLn• oho chall-
Mr. HUME inquired if it was the intention des ,
meet to appoint a place where the public cov
._dtba
light gold ? rtEnreP...ll' goo,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQ' f L'e
suggestion
0
he was not prepared to adopt the sub.— Np.)
Member for Montrose. „,nI,A our
/IP into A),
ACADEMICAL INSTITUTIONS."' fling 1,1110;4
On the question being put for the hiou'e gta-tionn 300%
mittee upon thegrant for the Academical 'net' that on nolo
Sir J. GRAHAM was understood to seYhie of tbedspfer
nest he should take occasion to lay on the tl etiej; elieges..ce
certain propositions relative to the mode of o,.',ite,e co eiti,.
tioning the funds necessary for the support or 'every plstro 't,
Sir R. INGLIS, while intending to orPese b such the ecn
likely to further a measure he regarded w't ive to
would not object to any arrangement condee ,rtset?
•A ton, bui,
venience of the House. at he die,
eh
Mr. W. SMITH O'BRIEN observed th the all 5°
offer any opposition to the measure then befer..eflarded 7e. in the
wished to address a few words on a question Th`s'e washessl of i,
interest by the Irish people, for he belle the wis!, ctle
dertaking to represent the feelings and Irish ee°Prtbi 'y,
people of Ireland on that sub•eet. The t e.°jotbier
dered the subject of academical) education on:pious e opei,
attention of the Legislature, and they were un h scas tlille ePc,i.ated
ing that a portion of the Irish revenue lied to ! eseeos
sion of the Hon. Member)—should be eiPof °Piinls Wet be
ment of those institutions, but a differene-foodea 0- touT%ej
as to whether those institutions should be
at the same for his
of united or of separate education. not
..dvocate e
ileoit
the
was justified in saying, though himself au
,:narate ll blci io
edueation, that those favourable to ' i,rt fort 'epee, the
would not be content with the Bill heett"„e tetrrisl elepi•
Government, unless certain modifications
_e mete oho the
it, containing the recommendations in °tint therm lot this
Catholic Bishops of Ireland. Upon one re proli'lacle in reed
nion of Ireland was unanimous—that se,gl, to be usivere sg do
relivious instruction of the students ou
gn'lreleed whiehi,ooW
Bill. The clergy of all denominations in
the coursettoic 'die
upon this head.—( Hear, hear.) BY to, the 11,0 remiit
Right Gentleman pursued—not let r, the i jag t'lhe
i • trodeee-- pre° r 0 '
what amendments he idtendeu to in ~., dot „rolA Atieo
would, in the interim, have no opportunn::7.re to tit
jolt must
opinion regardino them. He would 'ye. n..L.r di ci ir' Ea ,'ted•
Government, and tell them that if tn.v/.,,,, the. woo
noa
amendments satisfactory to the Irish eteh:eiotirellthe fl.eity of
become " a dead letter," and its obieets consulte ere gut es'
He thought the Government should have .. they W
_tit bed to
Catholic clergy, and that, by not doing w'fie tho_e6ebieo,toars
disrespect towards that yen -rated bod.Yl.;_, wbe.he.e proite riot,
pressed the opinion of the laity of Ireland that those pee 0 if
the loth clause of the Bill, which enatement. ,e clatOtio 0
should be appointed by the Govoe:reahje to the ottee those
heard any one express an opinion fay.
af it was tot° walcceieetief
now stood. Many were of opinion 0 ' /
,atrona-e' Noll. nee
the Government, by engrossing the .1., e Hlght
_006(1e, tale.
institutions a job. He need not tell tn.e9, the
meent oni
ad
man that the Government did not P°osf' Geveritrooage'intej'
the Irish people, who, after centuties
lit pa .000
r. to
Governn". wont 's Loe ',O
were naturally jealous of toe Govern joked city ' 0
suspicious of those whom tn
.ntrusting t tad
He should
menteriou object to 're to be airiting oat 110
the Govern. And if he 'e
reply by P erniee uhY"
should object in this way, he would _.
the
po: Norm„3 the
way in which the members of tfne r
the Marqu'scrupolee'e;sore:
acted towards the Government ofoed to use e‘rtis, the l_e a tt!
The Government had not hesiteadt
of th'''. —For ;11 qtio,st.
power which they then possess
which had been proposed by their Prede for bini9elotellet:',
should iao° t,hos It
powers which they had used ely fut , bee
he log , car.. , re
measure was calculated to bear ref,e be ver) tie has wee,
of the country, and he should tbctr
prineipeles.eocdutior ir..
gave his assent to so importa,". which th 1 ri,cheo.ooriliu. fit;
a member of the Committee o
the ac3dewica resele"trct °l
passed from which emanated.
,e, of those the dis, , asto
land. He had seconded the chief
see
see in ernlearler '''' r
rathe ohe
had earnestly hoped, for many 3'e3r ' great '
Of aloe ''' would e, r ~,ed
which he was connected,
Wished. But great as waosneh
ploy. -000 t be
all expectation of this advantisa.s.:,.i(l.:Le)h'reeatorsent° rgegil'ercifitie'r
which the ‘-''' id be on
than see the measure hat it wou innner,redt.,
carried, so much did he feel t , ,in
,noeta •- a bout t. Ina 1 0
such as that which they had
as. Parliament wenceo:ey ofdlree;tlool°
'urious to the country.,s the top
money of Ireland—( Hear, heart;
,_uii,buyen
the money of Ireland, in the tow

Sir G. GREY feared that, unless the Bill were removed
from Group X, there would be no chance of the case of its
promoters being heard this session.
Mr. B. DENISON said that in fifty miles the lines ran
within eight miles of each other. Then their termini too
were identical, and therefore there could be no doubt but that
they were competing lines, and that it was necessary that they
should be referred to the same Committee. There was a re-
medy for the evil of delay. The Committee might
a•k the House to remove it out of the group,
but they had not attempted to do so. No
such application had been made by the Committee, and
notwithstanding anything that might be said to the con-
trary, he could not but be of opinion that the cross-
examination of the witnesses had occasioned this
application. If that cross-examination had been favour-
able to the line, he doubted much whether this application
would have been made. He called upon the House to refine
this application, which had been made at the eleventh hour.
Lord WORSLEY supported the motion. The question was
one which had created great excitement in the county which
he represented. When the London and York and the Cam-
bridge and Lincoln lines were first entered upon, it was not
expected they would have taken so long, or that they would
have been considered competing lines. It was his opinion they
were only partially so, and if the branch were not formed
there would be an end to the question of competition. The
non-formation of the branch would not affect the main line ;
and with that arrangement the Cambridge and Lincoln could
easily be considered in another group, without any inconveni-
ence.

Mr. DARBY rose merely to state a fact. In the Committee
the whole exunination was conducted upon the grounds of the
two lines being competing lines.

After a few words from Mr. Parker, Mr. Wilson Patten,
and Mr. Guest, the motion was withdrawn.

LEEDS AND THIRSK RAILWAY.

On the third reading of this Bill being moved
Sir G. COCKBURN moved the insertion of a clause, au-
thorising the sale by the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster
of certain glebe lands; and that the standing order requiring
such clause to be referred to the Standing Orders Committee be
suspended.

-
The SPEAKER directed the Right Hon. Gentleman 1°
bring
it up, and Hon. Members havittg uncovered—
'I he SPEAKER read the message from her Majesty, Which,
was to he following effect :—" That her Majesty, en
of conferring a signal mark of her favour on the Right Hon. oh.,
H. Pot finger, G. C 8.. for the seal, ability, and temperdisplaY"
by him as her Majesty's Plenipotentiary in China, in COncludil
a treaty of commerce with the Emperor of China, recornraaou'
the Commons to bestow a pension of 1,5001. a year upon Olt
during his natural life."—( Loud cheers.)
Sir R. PEEL moved that the most gracious Message .11
her Majesty be taken into consideration on Monday nest!
(Cheers).
Dr. BOWRING wished to inq
asur uire whether the Covey,
meat had received any official accounts of the destruction_.;
persons and property in Syria, and whether any mees biT
been taken to put a stop to these outrages?
Sir R. PEEL said her Majesty's Government deeply
gretted the continuance of those unfortunate disturbances, of
the last offi•!ial information stated that the representatives'
the Five Powers had wet in Beyrour, and had made.°
dos
strong representation to the Pacha respecting these 0.
turbances, and the urgent necessity of suprressing thint.
Colonel Hose had done his utmost to put down the'et rnos
between the Drusees and Maronites, and he was Ali,
to say they were not so genet al as they had br
at,
These men were much pressed, and nearly 600
women, and children—had passed for nearly 40 miles thr,,te
a dfficult country. They had been Lccompanied by three nt,ll,
chiefs, and it was owing to their presence that these .575
ornit
women, and children, had been protected through a
.11 rs.
country from so many evils, and possibly from massacre itsen
The subject then droFped. t,f thern--00:_nis
ht
Sir CH ARLES NAPIER wished to ask tl:e nig"' - sits
Baronet at the head of the Government,i,vrhether any coope it
ton had bean awarded to those officers who had suffered thet
siege of Acre?
s; r R. PEEL said that he could hardly at present fired
dluett
the Gallant Officer's inquir so precisely as he desiret, put'
there had been a specified )s'urn set apart for this especia.' sto
pose by the Turkish Government, but to what estent it vito
be applied in the way of compens.ation—he hoped it was solo
applied in the way of compensation—he could not saY• and be
dditiona
amount had been set apart for this purpose before,ol
c'
trusted that this sum would be added as an al

'this clause, in addition to two others already amented to
and proposed to the House by Mr. Lawson, were agreed to,
andtheßill was read a third time.

YORK AND NORTH MIDLAND (HARROGATE
BRANCH) RAILWAY.
This Bill was moved to be read a third time—Agreed to.
DUBLIN AND DROGHEDA RAILWAY.
The third reading of this Bill was agreed to.
LANCASTER AND CARLISLE RAILWAY.
This Bill was read a third time.
ST. HELEN'S RAILWAY AND CANAL.

The report of the Committee on this Bill was brought up
and received.

perisat ion.
Bupitl
acNcHe ,
EA
RhNeEDw
Mr. LA
Baronet inCßhiji? BRAZILIANthoat,a
the Bigw'soy --•
whether.
_itieegia
saidi
h d t
rs the sugar otlybuoteer
rangement had been made respectin
Irons Spanish possessions into Cuba estop Brazilt---"of the
he had any objectio 1, the talde
n to lay he pap
House Wee.'
Sir R. I'EEL said he must allow that sugar bad beeeijoatien
ieeGAR.
~ go.
doted into those territories, as was stated, and 3,°l3olster t°
had been made to this country by the Spenie°,„_%„" tes'ile•
which a reply had been sent, but no rejoinder No Taio thee
As soon as it was made he. would have no °Wectietenble of the
rejoinder and the original communication on the
House.
NEW ZEALAND. ,s- wheel°
Mr. CHARLES BULLERwas anxious to k,°°: goielf
the Right Hon. Baronet would oppose
into Committee. tbe Ceeetil
Sir R. PEEL had no hesitation in answering o, fell
of the Hon. Member for Li k d He hould erie! 'o• bet
s ear . e e c•ntanutte I. ht
his duty to oppose ,the resolutions going into s.'y thee ntig" '
the Noble Lord the Member for London had, the 0, dell
introduced a series of resolutions much more ueefilhe 504°
the trade of the country, to the whole House, and polite. be,
recommend the same course to the Hon. Meinber if °f t 'nue
Mr. C. BULLER would certainly avail bi
suggestion, and amend his notice ...,
... .astrt
SLAVE TRADE.the lr` Go-
Mr. FORSTER inquired of the First Lord of of thief'
whether there were any documents in possessiol
ari
vernment, confirmatory of the participation' dire° ith., T7le`,o, '
of British subjects in the slave trade, ebergeflasiee; ant lob
his resolutions
messagewhether ttoheCreonmg.asresasn,ydeahteedetl.2th
tFebtrhuearpy.l4:ortosientleetltioiegtbete,
documents. Also, whetherj doovnernoment or.; vessels
trade,
fbhHayyco
toi‘uurisrereo.trnhi:ebiynenl
heatraimll
tefwe names
Unitedoh
faanv aedn
hyd
eeKesncirnli
Britishagpddt ieoonmncswa opi
or
i hrtaanii
in any
goods
to;
nf t
neyfuoeeor;ihheearen 0
its
,1 as
no : e -t
00 we
ra:i000;
alleged in the said message? ' ,me _ ,ide
Sir R. PEEL said that the question heat "4posill„,- idea'
some weeks since by an Hon. Member on wet by al o`,"-of the
the House. With respect to the message ee„°l,-ft alsosebies- that
United
ithetperdeUss
President
ett
nee United
carriedth Statesoug h
ttootnhether
there
w Congress,slavee r were
subjects
trade,its ts
0:11.1.4 stateos. rot : trf e
sys
iiciitt b..h‘.:
of ehl feel) s • lent
were concerned in the same trade. He (°l' the ' aid 1'
was not prepared to deny the fact* mentioned bifitty she adj..
of the United States, and the law of this 10,11,4;1:aeries
enforced to put a stop to the nefarious trawe ;toe t': „" GO;
cable. The message also declared that eheriiheg el°-,, Os"
should be put in force to abolish the trade. ,•paisr ee-nt st'
tleman was already in possession of every Pare &collie% to
with the subject, as they were included in tu, Ts breeg,•-rieso
tached to the President's message. The eco•s• tb Al°„-,0119,
Monte Video, and some other laces. on the
.":1 were ;ribs.°
coast, were the property of Americans,p and t",,ie'ties pre9;bieb
transhipped to Rio for disposal. All the Pen-the cesefirilide
by the treaty would be rigidly enforced. If ill "et that .'_'ishill
was now under investigation, it should be lOweoold eel.
subjects were engaged in the slave-trade they woe/
suffer the penalties.--( Hear.) ht 11°11. ere se.
Mr. FORSTER wished to ask the s.g--dficers w
whether he was not aware that British naval ,ad
cooed of conniving at the traffic ? , , there W•-nis to
Sir R. PEEL said that he did not dor' t,,,-as ring -
ground for such an accusation; but all 43'111111 -
reference to the subject.
Gentle'
CHANNEL ISLANDS. goo. frail,
Right
Mr. ROEBUCK wished to ask the betben II to
man the Secretary for the Home Department ". he lined
circumstances which had come to his knowledge' 4 e „.I
opinion that the paritieular state of the Channel Islao!'d IP'
for inquiry, and whether it was his intention to rec alw
.0
tbe If(itri
Majesty to institute such inquiry ? in telling . , ,
Sir JAMES GRAHAM had no difficulty a wineo 's'ot
and Learned Gentleman that, from eircumstanie_ads, he
_O4
come to his knowledge respecting the Channel Is'ille VAS that
convinced that some inquiry was necessary' airy I°Oer
however, prepared to recommend such an PLgoraedll 00
which had been suggested by the Hon. e° it 't hi',,,"•-„t. I,
tleman on a former occasion. He had tbevg- tithe ''''fitchle
address a letter officially to the Lord President 0. , into 4
recommending the Council to institute an ini°ll3lsnde, -the
present state of the criminal law of the Channe and ale°
the mode in which that law was administered;
constitution of the tribu I f • NIGLIS, 411.01 bet
In answer to a question from Sir Bli doe ' j•cl oe-
Mr. ROEBUCK said, that after the intisne ha di jot
had just received from the Right Hon. Gentleirsenisich be
motion o
think it necessary to go on with the
previously given notice. As order
PRIVILEGE. ht be w" dire'
na s or its execution.
owfhLperonor
etdhe
eJe
dOri
enHpgoNwr t i Rtfhr Uo
tmhSeSthEhueLs
iLneinquiredson
own hdf
ae epy
.reeiveHiufrog
ea Is oscoole-d hOO i
Committee o
ready to be presented to the House ? conseleer tbe
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that in health, o the
the absence from the Committee, through ill- wiriliqsbie
Right Hon. Member for Montgomeryshire (All'vas deei'oafil
report would not be ready by Monday' and as leo, fsettl
that the discussion on this subject should no! o.old eMsl
the House was in possession of the report, day to Ow"
that the debate should be adjourned from Al°nday 4)
llreliP
week.
Sir R. PEEL said he should take the Celle° % O.)
Bill on Monday. es I 01) o°°.
LAW OF LANDLORD AND TENANT ` Bight esch
Mr. BELLEW wished to know when the
Gentleman expected the Bill upon this subject ijoe
'llfalijsci ID
that House ? ( Laughter. )ive 1 teP
Sir R. PEEL said it was very difficult to g ot pre other
respecting Bills in that House, and be could ei'n jo se
give information as to the progress of al3 toot°
6ell-,104
place.—(Laughter.)
Lord J. RUSSELL—Perhaps the Right fttlt'ha iew"
go
could say what Bills he will proceed with and le°` Of
to drop.--(Laughter.) ~ ate 0
The motion for the adjournment of the Ile '
was then agreed to.

MANCHESTER, BURY, AND ROSSENDALE
RAILWAY.

The report on this Bill was brought up and received.
DUNDALK AND ENNISKILLEN RAILWAY.

Mr. G. CRAIG brought up the report of the Committee on
16 Bill, which was received.
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MANCHESTER, SOUTH JUNCTION, AND
ALTRINGHAM RAILWAY.

The report of the Committee on this Bill was brought up
and received.

SCOTCH UNIVERSITIES.

Sir R. INGLIS presented a petatonfrOnaThe presbytery of
Dunbar against the Bill for the ab)lition of tests in the Uni-
versities of Scotland.

PROTESTANT DISSENTERS.
Mr. HINDLEY presented petitions from the congregational
unions: of England and Wales,: praying that the Government
provision to Dissenters,
.and that paid to the Episcopalians in
Ireland, called the .Regtum Dolma, should be discontinued.
IRISH GRAND JURY ACT.
Lord CLENIENTS presented petitions from Langford and
other places in Ireland, praying for certain amendments in the
grand jury law.
MESSAGE FROM THE QUEEN—SIR HENRY
POTTINGER.
Sir R. PEEL Ainounced that he had a message from her
Majesty,