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London, England, 1817-05-10 00:00:00

:That a brine( 'in transalistantiation fintst necessarily iirtolme
d;*loyalty 'to the House of BrunsWick. S, far from the lan:
gun*: 'ef bur statutes containing an exclusion of the Catho-
lics, be would show, froum one of them, that the principle
of admitting them to Civil and military Mikes had been ex-
pressly recognized by one 'Legislature. He then read a
clause, which &clam% that "J it should ha lawful' for Pa-
pists to 'enjoy all civil and miliary offices." Here was a di-
Tect contradiction to those who pretended it was a fntida.-
• mew al law of our Constitution to exclude the Catholics. Her.e
'was a parliamentary acquittal of any such charge. The law that
:gave the Catholics the right of-von:gat elections was a farther
proof that Ihe loyalty of the Catholics had hen trusted. What
right then Was there to limit the Capacities of the Boman Ca-
tholic ? The pow.er, indeed, he aeltOowletbeed, but not the
tight. We did 'srty that a religious belief Wits no proper die-
`qqalification of a man for holding civil offices. The seven
sacraments were no disqualification . transubstantiation was no
'disqualification. He would appeal to the commanders of our
battles; they would nut impeach the loyalty of the troops
that (might so valiantly in the defence of the Empire and the
Constitution. What if an individual had revived the order of
Jesnits ? Ilecause the Pope thought fit to revive the Jesuits,
would they say that Lord Fingel should be attainted ? No;
and yet the argument of Honourable Gentlemen went farther,
and would in fact punish the whole body of Catholics for the
crimes of Mill man. It was the general object and business
Of human legislature to puniih individuals only when bodies
`offended; but thellritish Parliament, in its treatment of the
'Collates, wouldassuine the power of the Deity, and punish
whole bodies for the fault of an individual. If Gentlemen'
woubt go beck into the history of Ireland, let them not go
back for a hundred years, When the oppressions of England
made Ireland retalike : let theM rather look back to the last
4Oyears. Instead of pointing out—here such a man committed
a murder,, let them look at our hatfles, and say, " here such
a man fought nobly in defence of his country : here such a
regimentstood forward to maintain the British Constitution."

Without a sign his sword the I;rave mars draws,
And aslcs no omen bitt his country's cause.

• ti:entlemen should he consistent : they affected to think it
part of their rtligion to love their enemies; but to love their
friends they found too hitter a task. They were asked in the
present Case not to look upon their enemies as friends; but only
slot to consider their friends as enemies. 'they might depend
opens it, that if they repudiated the Catholics without sufficient
eause,t hey would he guilty of a crime; and they would soon see
'whether this policy did not go to the destruction, not merely
`of the Catholic religion, but of theTrotestant also. -Gentle-
'men took to prophesy ahout.consequences, for the purpose► of
perpeto:Ulng disqualifications on their fellow'subjects,(noise
arid coughing.),He should perhaps do the same as sione
Geroltmen If he were in their place. The question itself
was sufficient to force tlfe attention of the House. Ile re-
'membered the observatiOns of Mr. Fox on the arguments
about the dangers of admitting a fee, Catholic Members
'lntel the Legislature. Here was' the very same case again.
It *as a mere arithmetical proposition. Could afew Catholic
Members admitted, overturn the Constitution ? It n•as a
Orange arithmetical proposition', to say they could do so, if they
desired it: Thetheological arguments were equally unatailiug
The landed property in Ireland is almost all in the hands of the
Protestants. It Was argued strangely, that the 100 Members re-
turned for Ireland 'night be Catholics. Could it he ? But could
they even then control more than 500 members for Great
Br•it.ain ? And then they are, it appears, to outvote the !louse
of Lords! and then they were to depose the King! But do
you think it, fair and honest, on such mathematics or arith-
metic, to say that you will disqualify four millions of your
fellow subjects ? This great question for the Empire I have'
known to be for 29 years in agitation.
.The poison which a
strong system has spread, and the dangers of it, have increas-
ed. Will any Gentleman say now, that the Protestantsorthe
Elle:115h Irish, are now only a settlement, or a sort of colony,to
be defended by a large army; and that large army to be support!.
ed by a heavy tax, instead of their forming a part of a nation ?
Why, if after so many years possession of th Parliament,of the
Bower of making the laws, of Ow power of Government, why
can the Protestants in Ireland he only a settlement now ?
Then what have they and you been doing all this long time ?
And ~logy is that their situation now? Then, perhaps, you
have been doing little or nothing but giving sentiments and
toasts in honour of "a glorious memory," and drinking
"success to his Majesty's arms by land and sea." Is that
what you propose to' continue? Do not suppose that you can
'set up claims on the score of religion to trample on your cono-
trynten. Do not say, after your long possession, anti many
opportunities, that you cannot appease troubles and discon-
tetits, when you have taken away liberties and privileges, and
take diegt►aliacatioti as an appeaser and a merit. Lo not
imagintOthat you are. obeying the lah•s of man, or the sacred
Jaws of Gpd, which` you,admiie so much, when they command
yaw to love •or enemies, but which you neglect in not lov-
ing your friends. This policy can never last. An inter-
course has been rotating between the Church of Ireland and
:the Clorreh of Bottle. The Catholic body has had no Qom-
nication with the State, as the State. does not ramify into
that body to ha productive of general advantages. It was de-
sir elute then to put an end to clandestine intercourse between!
tto:Churehef Ireland and the Chore!) of 'Wive t particularlyso,
s hen, as it walk stated, theta AVISS such an interference in every
other eountry. Tito most formidable danger is that which '
takes-away the privileges and the eligibility of the people, and
the Interests of the State. When I see Britain at the head of
so:Aim:l4 when I contemplate her greatness, and the majesty
'of 'hes empire, I am deeply astonished, to see that majesty
bending itself down into a contest with a jangling cavern of
disputing theolOgians.

• The lion. Gentleman 'having sat down amidst
uuiverssd cheering, the House divided—

Ayes,. 245
Noes.

221

44jority against tip!
Adjourned at .Three o'clock Otis 1110.11):1:.

'Gvacc the Th.m of MAril,noßinunt was
1V,.,111.—.(i1y last unanimously elected President of
the I,:a,kkiiife Infirmary, oxford, in the room of
hit hoe venerable and deeply lamented father.

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