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could anything be more cruel than to prevent the poorer
classes of Manchester, of Liverpool, and London, who
were cooped up in the dark courts and alleys of those
towns, and in the garrets, cellars, and work-rooms of
Spits!fields, never or scarcely ever seeing the light of the
sun during six days of the week, never breathing the
fresh air during that time—could any thing be more
cruel or unjust, than to interfere to prevent these people
from walking out on the Sunday and enjoying, not the
sight of the sun and the fresh air a little, but a little of
the country also, at an expense they could bear.—
(Hear, hear.) It was, in his view, a good and whole-
some observance, of the Sabbath to go to church in
the morning, and in the evening to the country and
the green fields,. and, he said, let the people in God's
name enjoy the country, if they could do so on that only
day, and during those few hours of the week in which
they were relieved from the toils of the week. He had
lately come up from Brighton, on one of the finest
mornings he had ever seen.—(A laugh.) He knew not
why the health and amusements of the people should be
made the subject of mirth, instead of ono of a question of
fellow-feeling and sympathy.---(Hear, hear.) He had
recently travelled up from Brighton by the railway on
one of the finest Sabbath mornings he had ever seen ;
train passed at the station where he stopped, and in that
train he saw somewhere about 600 or 70G persons as
decently dressed as it was possible for them to be, with
their wives and daughters, completely filling the cheap
trains, and upon inquiring he found that they had to pay
4s. each as the fare to Brighton, 4s. to return, and allow-
ing them 4s. to spend there, he found that they thus,
for some 10s. or 125., could have the delight of a long
and pleasing journey on the railway through the coun-
try, of seeing the green fields, and inhaling the fresh air
during the journey ' • and; more than all, of spending
some three or four hours by the sea side. Could their
Lordships be sensible to the advantages which these
poor people thus derived, after_ having been pent up
during six days in the heat, the filth, and the darkness
of the streets and courts of London ? For his part, his
(Lord Brougham's) heart leaped within him when he
saw that large body of his fellow-countrymen and coun-
trywomen enjoying so wholesome and salutary, and, at
the same time, so innocent a recreation.—(Hear, hear.)
Innocent it was in the greatest degree, and enjoyed, as
he believed it was, without any of that dissipation and
immorality which, if by law they had been compelled to
remain in town, either by a direct law to keep them in
London, or by placing obstacles in the way of their
going into the country, and by which, instead of spend-
ing the Sabbath soberly, healthfully, and morally, they
would have kept it in the ale-houses or gin palaces which
so plentifully studded this metropolis.—(Hear, hear.)
For these reasons, and being always anxious to see as
little prevention placed in the way of the innocent and
healthful recreations of the poor during the only time
which they could enjoy them, viz., the latter part of the
Sabbath, he trusted that nothing that would interpose
any obstacle to these recreations would meet with their
Lordships' assent.—(Hear, hear.)
Lord MONTEAGLE said that the conduct of the
railway companies in making the accommodation of the
poorer classes as painful as possible, rendered it neces-
sary that the Government should be empowered to in-
terfere. He opposed the amendment. The arrange-
ments for keeping the Sunday sacred were in most cases
futile. In the Post-office, the Christian conscience of
the Legislature was strict on Sunday in the metropolis,
but it ceased to exist twelve miles out of town.—(Hear,
hear.) He had found himself an instance where a steam-
boat was prevented from crossing the Severn on a Sun-
day, and yet he was allowed to transfer, from one side
of the river to the other, his carriage, luggage, and
family, by human labour. The amendment of the
Right Reverend Prelate would not interfere with the
travelling of the rich, whilst it would- amount to an in-
terdiction of the travelling of the poor. As had been
well said in the other House, the object of the amend-
ment was to indulge Dives and to restrain Lazarus.—
(Hear, hear.) He implored the House not to introduce
such an inequality between their Lordships and their
less fortunate fellow-countrymen.—(Cheers.)
The Earl of WICKLOW supported the amendment.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE denied that the
clause would compel any railway company to run a
carriage or a train on Sundays. It only compelled them
to carry Lazarus if they chose to carry Dives.—(Hear.)
It would only compel the companies to provide accom-
modation for the poor as well as for the rich.—(Hear.)
The Duke of WELLINGTON suggested that the
discussion should be adjourned, as it appeared to him
that the Bill was not entirely understood by his Noble
Friend (the Earl of Wicklow). No one could desire to
compel the railroad proprietors to run their carriages on
Sundays. All that was desired was, that they should
neither be compelled not prevented from travelling. All
that was desired by this Bill was, that the railroad pro-
prietora should provide carriages of a particular descrip-
tion, and going at a certain rate, for third-class passen-
gers, and now it was' proposed that where other persons
travelled on a Sunday, that this class should be pre-
vented from doing so.—(Hear, hear.) He begged to
submit to the Right Rev. Prelate one consideration,
which he was sure the Right Rev. Prelate would feel.
There was nothing to prevent persons travelling in third-
class carriages for three or four days together, in which
days a Sunday might intervene. There could, then, be
nothing more unreasonable than to require the third-
class passengers to remain stationary on Sundays, when
the carriages of other classes were going forward.—
(Cheers.) It could not be the intention of the amendment
of the Right Rev. Prelate to do this ; for, in the first
place, persons would by it be put to great expense, that
expense falling upon those not well able to bear it ; and
then he was afraid that it would happen, that at what-
ever place or railroad station those persons might hap-
pen, by his amendment, to be stopped on the Sunday,
that they would not find the means of attending divine
service, because they might not be able to find any place
of religious worship capable of holding them, in addition
to those who regularly attended them.—(Hear.) Under
the circumstances, he thought they ought to adjourn the
discussion till Monday next.
The Earl of WICKLOW explained.
Lord CAMPBELL thought the adjournment unne-
cessary, for he believed that the House was now pre-
pared to negative the amendment, which he would most
strenuously oppose.
Lord BROUGHAM said that, on the Sunday on
which he came from Brighton, seven hundred persons
came up by railway, and these required the assistance of
three labourers only; whereas, if they had gone by
coach to Hampton Court, they would have required the
service of a hundred and twenty Sabbath-breakers.
After a few words from the Bishop of LONDON and
the Earl' of RADNOR, the discussion was adjourned till
Monday.
UNLAWFUL OAT Rs (IRELAND) BILL.
Lord WLIARNCLIFFE moved the third reading of
this Bill.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE took that oppor-
tunity of calling the attention of their Lordships to the
conduct of the police, in seducing the people into crime,
as it was exposed in the trials of Ogle and others. The
Noble Marquis then read at length the evidence of the
man Shanaghan, at the trial of Wade at the North
Tipperary Assizes. (The reading of this extraordinary
evidence created a very marked sensation in the House.)
He greatly deprecated
the use of the spy system. It
had never done any good. Persecutions, prosecutions,
and informers, did no good. What had been the-effect
of the late trials of O'Connell and the others ? It had
been to increase excessively the amount of the rent,
which, since Easter, had amounted to upwards of
25,000/.(Hear, hear.) The power of the Repeal As-
sociation had been greatly increased, and presented now
a bolder front to the authorities than ever be-
fore.—(Hear.) lie read extracts from the reports of
speeches delivered at the Repeal Association to show
thud. the Repealers had become bolder in their language
since the conviction and imprisonment or o•ounuoit. 11l
1834 the subject of repeal was brought before the
House of Commons, in a substantive motion, by Mr.
O'Connell, and a debate of great importance took place,
in which his Noble Friend (Lord Monteagle) rendered
most valuable service to both countries, by entirely de-
stroying Mr. O'Connell's arguments, and proving that
Ireland was more benefited than England by the union.
—(Hear, hear.) But in all the measures which had
been passed of late years respecting Ireland, the Legisla-
ture had shown the greatest distrust of the Roman Ca-
tholic people of that country. That distrust was con-
spicuous in the Municipal Corporations Act, in which
every care was taken to exclude Catholics from muni-
cipal office and influence. The result had been that
the great mass of the population, and the
large majority of people of rank and wealth and
station were united in calling for to.linethreepiemalpoefritableunion,
having no longer any confidence
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them more to
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ment. The present Administration had done nothing
for Ireland, and if
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greater energy than they
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which had been introduced for Ireland, was the Charita-
ble Bequests Bill ; and that was really . no new law—
scarcely an amendment of the law, for it did no more
than to allow the Catholics to avail themselves of a
board already in existence.-(Hear.) The Registration
Act was not an indication ofa conciliatory spirit to Ire-
land. It diminished the existing constituency, which in
common sense and justice ought to be extended. It
deprived the people of
the rights they had possessed,
instead of extending to them the rights possessed by
the English people.—(Hear, hear.) There were now
two vacancies in the representation, and he thought
they ought to be given to the county of Cork, which
was the most inadequately represented portion of the
United Kingdom.—(Llear, hear.) He would next advert
to the legelclom.—(flear,
appointments of the present Government.
They had selected for the bench; a gentleman who had
distinguished himself up to an advanced period of his
and energy with which
life for the constancy
he' had supported anti-popular opinions.—(Hear, 'hear.)
It was unfortunate that the Government should have so
acted in respect, to the magistracy. as to shake the confi-
dence of the people in the administration of the laws.
Mr. O'Brien was dismissed from the magistracy because
he presided at a meeting for expressing sympathy to