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London, England, 1845-07-29 00:00:00

THE BERMUDAS.

The sum of 4,4091. was next proposed for the Civ
Establishment of the Bermudas and agreed to.
PRINCE EDWARD'S ISLAND.

3,0701. was proposed for the civil e;tal:lishment of
Prince ICCvard's Island, and, after a few remarks from
Mr. C. BULLER, who considered that thiscountry ought
to pay the Governor and Secretary, and no other, it was
agreed to.
400/. for the Sable Island, and for relieving shipwrecked
seamen, and 13,680/. for the civil establishments on the
western coast of Africa, were agreed to.
12,0001. was proposed to defray the expenses attendant
on the management of St. Helena.
Mr. WILLIAMS opposed the vote on the ground that
the cost was exorbitant; that it was principally paid to the
officers of the East India Company, who had rendered no
service to this country.
Mr. COLLETT was of the same opinion. 500/. was
paid to a chaplain whose duties might be efficiently per-
formed for 100/. He therefore moved that the sum be
reduced to 11,6001.
The grant, however, was agreed to without a division.
7,2191. was proposed to defray the expenses incurred
in connexion with the Government of Western Aus-
tralia.
Mr. C. BULLER said, the population of the colony
was 3,476, and that it had lasted for 17 years. 9.0001.
was raised by taxation, which was at the rate of 31. per
head.

Mr. HOPE had not his papers with him relating to
the subject. He, however, could state that the tax was
a fair one.
The grant was then agreed to.
3,1711. was next proposed to defray the expenses of
the Government of South Australia, which, after a
short discussion, was agreed to.
5,329/. was next proposed to defray the expenses in-
curred in the Government of Port Essing, which, after a
few words from Mr. C. Buller, Dr. Bowring, and the
Chancellor of the Exchequer, was agreed to.
7.4t301, for the Falkland Islands was agreed to.
The sum of 1,0231. was voted for the civil service of
Heligoland.
18,394/. for the West Indian Islands.
11,3531 being proposed for the Ecclesiastical service
of the North American provinces,
Mr. WILLIAMS objected to this vote, on the ground
of its Inutility, and stated his intention of taking the sense
of the Committee upon it.
Dr. BOWRING supported the objection, and pointed
• eat the anomaly of the Roman Catholic Bishop receiv-
ing less than the Protestant.
Mr. SIIEIL corroborated the statement of the Hen.
Member for Bolton that an incongruity existed in the
mode ef paying the Roman Catholic and Protestant
Ecclesiastics in the colonies, while the majority of the
population in almost all the settlements were members of
the former creed.
Lord SANDON wished to ask the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman the Member for Dungarvon how he reconciled
his complaint of the Roman Catholic bishops of the
Colonies receiving a less salary than the Protestant,
when the Roman Catholic Prelate of Newfoundland
received a large stipend, and the Protestant was unpaid.
Or, how he reconciled his proposition for an increase in
the salaries of Roman Catholic ecelesiastics in the colo-
nies, when those in Ireland refused on principle all de-
pendance whatever on the State ?

- Mr. SHELL did not wish to enter into the question of
relative Church endowments, all he desired was to effect
a more equal and just mode of provision for both
religions.

Mr. C. BULLER stated that, though the Protestant
Bishop of Newfoundland received nothing, the Dean ob-
tained the salary, which otherwise would have been ac-
corded to his superior.
After a few words of retort between Lord Sandon and
Mr. Sheil, Mr. Packington . and Mr. Collett, the House
divided, when there appeared—

For the amendMent ... lB
Against it
Majority for the vote —42

On 18,8951. being proposed for the missionaries of
Lower Canada,

Mr. CHARLES BULLER objected to the vote. He
was of opinion that the Indians received no be-
nefit whatever from the labours of the missionaries.
The fact was, that there were not three Indians who at-
tended their ministrations. He thought, that before they
voted away these sums year, after year, an inquiry should
be instituted as to its utility, and he hoped that before
next session the Government would lay a report before
the House of the results which hsd followed this ex-
penditure.
After a few words frora Mr. HOPE,
Mr. WILLIAMS said that the inquiry proposed
should be instituted, and he had no doubt it would be
found that these Indians were far better off than our
agricultural labourers.
The vote was then agreed to.
10,4951. was proposed to defray the expenses of the
Colonial Land Emigration Board.

After a few words from Mr. WILLIAMS, the vote
was agreed to.
48,800/. was then proposed to defray the expenses,
allowances, and contingencies of the stipendiary justices
of the West Indies and the Mauritius.
After a few words from Mr. HAWES and Mr. HOPE,
Mr. WILLIAMS objected to the vote, and said he
would take the sense of the House upon it.
The House then divided, when there appeared—
For the vote
Against it ... lO
Majority...
—5l
The vote was then agreed to.

35,0001 vvas then voted for the expenses of capturing
negroes; as also 24,0001. for defraying the expenses of
salaries to Commissioners and others for completing
treaties in conjunction with foreign powers for the sup-
pression of the slave trade ; and 110,7231. for the con-
sular establishment abroad.

Mr. HINDLEY.—What is the use of 'a consul in
Jerusalem, and other expenses of such a consulship,
to form an item in the estimates?

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was
undeistood to say. that he was useful in negotiations
with Eastern countries.

Dr. BOWRING.—Is it a fact that a consul has been
appointed at the Zolvenein, and, if so, what is the-salary?
Mr. HOPE said he had not heard of any such ap-
pointment.
The vote was then agreed to.
The next vote proposed was 80,0001. for the establish-
ment at Hong-Kong. _

Mr. HAWES otiserved upon the largeness of the sum
and wished to know if the details of the expenditure
had been duly considered, as a feeling that• it was an
extravagant establishment prevailed among the trading
communities.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the
matter had undergone the revision of the Government,
and correspondence had taken place with Sir Henry
Pottinger on the subject. The establishment, from its
novelty, must be necessarily expensive.
Mr. WILLIAMS objected to the amount of the vote.
The sum was in his opinion most inordinate.
Dr. BOWRING agreed in the view expressed by his
Hon. Friend. He considered the salaries of the func-
tionaries at Hong Kong were much too high.
After some further conversation the vote was agreed to.
MINISTERS AT FOREIGN COURTS.
The next vote was that a sum of not less than l 8,0002
be applied for the extraordinary expenses of her Ma-
jesty's Ministers at Foreign Courts.—Agreed to.
The Chairman then reported progress and obtained
leave to sit again this day.
The House then resumed.
Sir J. GRAN A
NEW MEDICAL BILL.
M, who spoke in such a low tone of
voice as to be repeatedly inaudible, said he wished to
trespass on the House for a few minutes while he stated
the course he intended to take on this subject. It had
been bis intention, if other urgent business had not in-
terfered to defer this Bill, to have brought the matter
to a, settlement in the present session. This not
being the case he begged leave to state to
the House the course he intended to pursue. As much
importance was attached to this measure, he might state
that he intended to bring it forward early: next session,
and that he still adhered to the principle of incorporat-
ing the general practitioners, only there were some al-
terations he intended proposing at another stage of its
proceedings. All that he wanted at present wa,
that. the Bill be committed pro formil The alterations he
intended proposing were as follows :—in all cases in which
the present Bill provided for two examinations, one at
twenty-two years of age, and (mother at twenty-six, he
intended to invert the order of examination, retaining
the same number of examinations. At present it was
provided that a student should be examined first by a
Board of Physicians and Surgeons, and • af.
terwards by a Board of General Practi-
tioners. The alteration he proposed was, that
the examinatioa by the general practitioners should
take place first, to be followed by that of the physicians

and surgeons. He also proposed that there should be a
supplemental charter granted to the College of Sur-
geons, to which members of the college who had
given evidence of sufficient attainments might be
admitted as fellows. This would do a great
deal to extend the number of the fellowships.
He proposed also that the examinations of the students
in Scotland and Ireland should be the same as those of
England. At present, they underwent only one exami-
nation ; it was his intention that they should undergo
two. He also proposed that practitioners coming from
Scotland or Ireland, and regularly admitted
into the colleges of those countries, should be
allowed to practice in England by entering the cor-
responding college in this country without further ex-
amination. With regard to Scotch or Irish prac-
titioners practising in England, he proposed they should
be called upon to register themselves as members of the
college here. In respect to situations in the
army and navy, he proposed that all candi-
dates should undergo the two examinations he
referred to, as well as examination by the army or naval
board ; but that they should not be allowed to practise
until five years from the date of their first admission
in England until five -years after their first admission,
unless they had previously passed both Boards. There
was one other provision of the Bill which was important,
and which he proposed to alter—it was with reference
to the counciL He meant to reduce it to thirteen mem-
bers as the highest number, and they would probably be
below that, and he proposed also to leave the appoint-
ments to the Crown.

Mr. P. BORTH WICK wished to know whether the
Right Hon. Baronet intended to continue that system of
establishing an ineqtiality between English and Scotch
students.

Sir. J. GRAHAM said that he had made his state-
ment as fully as he could, and could not, in its present
stage, enter into any lengthened discussion on the Bill.
Mr. WAKLEY would, in a few words, state his
opinion, viz., that the amended Bill would not give
satisfaction to the profession. He gave the Right
Hon. Baronet all credit for his perseverance and
intentions, bat seeing that the amended Bill pro-
posed to increase the number of examinations, while the
profession had for several years past been using all their
endeavours to decrease it, he could not but fear that it
would give dissatisfaction to the body.
The House then went into Committee on the
MUNICIPAL (IRELAND) BILL.
All the clauses of which were agreed to, and the
report ordered to be brought up to-morrow (this day).
THE COLLEGES OF PHYSICIANS AND
SURGEONS BILL.
_ _

On the motion of Sir J. GRAHAM, this Bill was
ordered to be committed this day three weeks.
THE IRISH STOCK BANKS (SCOTLAND AND
IRELAND) BILL.
On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EX-
CHEQUER, this Bill went through Committee, and was
ordered to be reported to-morrow (this day.)
REMOVAL OF COURTS OF LAW.

On the motion of Mr. C. BULLER, the following
Members were nominated as the Select Committee on
the removal of the Courts of Law from Westminster—
Mr. C. Buller, the Earl of Lincoln, Mr. Richards, Colonel
Thomas Wood, Mr. Bodkin, Mr. Pakington, Mr. Nicholl,
Sir T. Wilde, Mr Tancred, Viscount Ebrington, Mr.
Roebuck, Mr. Aldam, Sir R. IL Inglis, Mr. Attorney-
General, and Mr. Villiers.
Capt. PECHELL moved for a return of all vessels
that have been taken into Her Majesty's service under
the several acts and treaties relating to the slave trade,
since the 24th day of August, 1839, describing the flag
under which such vessels were seized, the registered
tonnage, as well as that by British admeasurement ;
stating whether copper or iron fastened, and if taken
with their stores and furniture ; likewise the appraised
or estimated value of each vessel, and the sums which
the Board of Admiralty have deemed a proper price for
the same.

Agreed to.
The remaining orders of the day were then disposed
of, and the House adjourned at two o'clock.

PARLIAMENTARY BUSINESS
MONDAY, JULY 28.

Eastern Counties Railway- (Cambridge and Huntingdon
Line) Bill,—Report considered; amendments agreed to;
Bill to be ingrossed.
Scottish Midland Junction Railway Bill,—Lords' amend-
ments agreed to.

NOTICES GIVEN AT THE PRIVATE BILL OFFICE.
Glasgow, Dumfries, and Carlisle Railway,—Report, Wed-
day, July 30.
Eastern Counties Railway (Cambridge and Huntingdon),—
'Third Reading, Wednesday, July 30.