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London, England, 1845-07-19 00:00:00

S',-ral Bills on the table ceie f,,ma-ded a stage, and
tLc. q.)tve alj,,urned.

V ;L:7ATI()N (IRELAND) v:IILL.
( 17ii.eed tree) ::reroute: Eib of yeeterilay.)
Visesiurit CLE obj,eted to the Bill peoeeeding fur-
ther ; there were only Oiree Irish leenb.,r • in th.- douse, anti
not more than sixteen Members altogeiher. He o ijected to
the principle of the Bill from the cornrnencem,nt to its ter-
mutation. The Noble Lord then moved that the House be
counted, and added that he would take every means in his power
to defeat the Bill.
Mr. GREENE, the Chairman of the Committee, then
counted the House, and there being only twelve-.letiabere
present, he quitted the chair, and
The e.PEAltea having entered the House,
Mr. GREENE reported that he had counted it, and there
were only twelve Members present.
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and after
rs inwere
-
of about a quarter of an hour, sufficient
:Membean
found to constitute a /louse. Upon the question that clause 5
stand part of the Bill,
Lord CLEM F.N I'S objected to the motion, and said he would
divide the House upon it.
S-rangers were again ordered to withdraw, bet no division
took place, in consequence of the Noble Lord (Clements) not
being able to find a second tel:er. The clause was then agreed to.
On our entering the House we found
Sir T. FREMANTLE request:ng the Noble Lord to allow
the Bill to proceed, as it was really a measure calculated to do
much good in Ireland, and it was necessary it should b., carried
during the present session. He did rot think that the Noble
Lord had fairly considered the provisions of the Bill.
Sir R. FERGUSON trusted that the i-ionourable
Gentleman the Secretary for Ireland would allow this Bill to
be an experiment in those counties where no valuation had as
yet taken place.
Viscount CLEMENTS protested against imposing upon the
Lord-Lieutenant duties which could he performed by grand
juries. He certainly should do all he could to defeat the Bill.
Clauses up to 14 were agreed to, with a few verbal amend-
ments.
On clause 15 being prnpos"d.
Mr. SHARMAN CRAWFORD moved that it be expunged,
and that the following clause he inserted in its place :—" And
be it enacted, that if any person or perste-is shall find himself
or themselves aggrieved by any order or decision of such Sub-
Commissioners, it shall be lawful for such person or persons to
appeal to any sessions of the peace to be held in the presence of
the assistant barrister in and for the county in which such
order or decision shall have been made, within four calendar
months next after the making of such decision or order afore-
said, or if such sessions shall not be held before the ex-
piration of one calendar month next after such cause of
complaint, then such appeal shall be made to the next follow-
it,. sessions. And be it enacted, that the justices and the as-
sist ii.t birrister before whom any app cal shall ;.e brought are
hereby empowered and required to hear ant determine the
t:;,ttfr of suet, avowal. and to make such order ihere.n as to
,::ern shad seem fit, whib4l order shall be float and conclusive
upon all parties."
Sir T. FEU.2.MANTLE admitted that the system of appeal
under the Bill was imperfect, and that it had been a subject
that he had found it most difficult to grapple with. He thought
the subject ought to be considered.
Viscount CLEMENTS thought the clause most objection-
able, and he should, therefore, support its expulsion. He
objected to the appeal being sent to the revising barrister, but
should have no objection to its going to the petty sessions. He
was in hopes still of their being enabled to put off this Bill to
the next session.
Mr. SHARMAN CRAWFORD trusted that the Right
Hon. Baronet would consider his proposition before the report.
If he would do so, he would not press his amendment at this
stage of the Bill.
Sir. R. FERGUSON thought the subject of appeal oug4lt
to be well considered before it was finally determined upon.
Sir T. FREMANTLE said he would consider the proposi-
tion of the Hon. Member for Rochdale, and trusted that they
would now be allowed to go on with the Bill.
Viscount CLEMENTS thought that the Chairman should
report progress He had no objection to them taking that
part of the Bill that related to counties that had not been
valued, but he considered it an outrage on those that had.
After some discussion the clause was agreed to.
The remaining clauses were then agreed to, and the report
was ordered to be received on Monday.
The proceedings of the House were then suspended till five
o'clock.

The House resumed at Five o'clock.
Mr. THOMAS DUNCOMBE moved that the Committee
on the Bolton and Leigh, Kenyon and Leigh Junction, North
Nnion Liverpool and Manchester, and Grand Junction Rail-
way Companies Amalgamation Bill, have leave to report forth-
with.
Mr. M. GIBSON opposed the motion on the ground that
tke people of Manchester were opposed to the measure.
Mr. DUNCOMBE said three days would be lost if the
House did not allow the report to be brought up new. The
opposition in Manchester was as feeble as any opposition could
be. and as little deserving the notice of the House.
Lord G. SOMERSET thought' that, under the circum-
stances, the House ought to assent to the motion, on the un•
derstanding that the report would be printed, and in the hands

of Members to-morrow.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE was understood to agree to the con-
ditions.
Mr. BRIGHT said that the interests of the public ought
to be considered as well as those of the Company.
After a few words from Mr. COBDEN not heard in the

gallery,
The r. port was brought up and ordered to be received.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL presented a petition in favour of

the Teti Hours' Bill.
MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS.
Several Bills were brought up from the House of Lords,
NORTH WALSHAM SCHOOL BILL.

This Bill was read a second time.
SMALL DEBTS BILL (No. 3).
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said he believed that the
Bill he was about to introduce had met with tile unanimous
approval of both sides of the H He proposed
that as he had several clauses and amendments to ad4l so it,
that the best course would be now to read the Bill a second
time, and go into Committee pro forma. The clauses and
amendments could then he printed with the votes of to-night,
and placed in Hon. Members hands. The further considera-
tion of the Bill and any discussion on it could be taken neat
Monday in Committee.
Mr. WA KLEY was satisfied with the Bill as it stood. A Bill
was very much needed to correct the evils of the one passed last
year. He thought they ought. before consenting to the course
sveggested by the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, to know the
character of the Bill as altered by him.
Sir .1. GRAHAM considered the course suggested by his
Noble and Learned Friend the best that could be ode!), ed, as
Hon. Members would be possessed of tee printed amendments
before their consideration being entered upon.
The Bill was then read a second time, and committed pro
formi, and the Chairman asked leave to sit again on Monday.
CASE OF ELIZA. PRICE.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE wished to call attention to the
case of Eliza Price, who had been imprisoned for
stealing a halfpenny-worth of coals —( Hear, hear.) She
had been chained to the grate of the back-kitchen of the
house of the officer who had taken her into
custody, and when her sister called in a few days after, she
complained of the state in which she was, and requested that
some soup might be given her. ( he Hon. Member read the
statement made by the sister.) He timueht this a case of
gross oppression—a girl confined during four days to a back
room, chained to the grate ; and he thought that it called for
Sir JAMES GRAHAM saidel that w
to him the case referredwould to by
the Hen. Gentleman was perfectly ne, but
direct a letter to be sent to the Lord Lieutenant of
the county, requiring him to raise the question, and
when he should be in possession of the facts,
lie would lay them so the table of the House,