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LONDON, SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 8, 1845.

The House of Commons met at Four o'clock.

After the presentation Lf a variety of petitions and
notices of motion on the part of Lord EBRINGTON,
Mr. WALLACE, at the request of Sir R. PEEL,
postponed his motion for a Committee of Inquiry into
the present mode of conducting private business, on
the understanding that the Right Hen. Baronet would
himself move for the appointment of such a Com-
mittee in the course of the ensuing week.

Sir JAMES GRAHAM, in answer to Mr. F. FRENCH,
explained the circumstances under which an execu-
tion had been put into the union workhouse at Tuam,
in consequence of the guardians reusing to make a
rate, and said that the Court of Queen's Bench had
issued a mandamus to compel them to do their duty.
In reply to Mr. BELLEW, Sir R. PEEL stated that
the Earl of LUCAN had been appointed Lord-Lieute-
nant of Mayo.

Sir R. PEEL then announced that he should, on
Friday next, in a Committee of Ways and Means,
propose a resolution for continuing the laws which
impose a tax on income in Great Britain, and the law
which imposes an additional stamp duty in Ireland,
for a further limited period. He, however, refused
to state what taxes he intended to remit, or to enter
into any further explanation on the subject.
Mr. WALLACE put a question to Sir J. GRAHAM
on the subject of a recent judicial decision, delivered
in Scotland, on the construction of the Weights
and Measures Act, in reply to which the Right Hon.
Baronet stated that that decision would shortly be
brought before all the Judges in the Court of Jus-
ticiary.

A new writ was moved for the county of Bucking-
ham, Mr. C. S. MURRAY, the late Member, having
accepted the Chiltern Hundreds.
Mr. BOUVERIE asked whether any commercial
negotiations were going on with Brazil.
Sir R. PEEL complained that no notice of the ques-
tion had been given ; and Mr. BOUVERIE gave notice
of it for Monday.
The house then resolved itself, pro forma, into a
Committee of Supply, and Mr. HUMS, in Committee,
objected to voting any supply until after the financial
statement should have been made. After a few words
from Sir R. PEEL, Lord J. RUSSELL, and Mr. S.
CRAWFORD, the House resumed.
On the motion of Mr. M. SUTTON, and after a
speech from Mr. S. CRAWFORD, a Committee was
appointed to inquire into the administration of the
Poor-law in the Gilbert Unions.

Colonel SIBTITORP moved for a return of the num-
ber of days each Poor-law Commissioner had been
engaged in the discharge of his duty. The Gallant
Officer complained that the return had been ordered
last May, but had not been made, and accused Sir
J. GRAHAM of now refusing what he had before as-
sented to.

Sir J. GRAHAM would not oppose the motion, al-
though, as there was no roster kept of the attendance
of the Commissioners, there would be considerable
difficulty in affording the information required.
After a few words from Mr. F. FRENCH, the re-
turns were ordered.

Mr. YOUNG moved to suspend, for the present ses-
sion, the standing order No. 103, that all petitions for
private Bills be presented within twenty-one days
after the first Friday in every session of Parliament.
Mr. ENTlvlsms at first opposed the motion, but
ultimately withdrew his opposition.
After the motion was carried a series of resolutions,
which will be found at length in our report, were
proposed and carried, for the regulation of the bring-
ing in of Railway Bills during the present session.
This was the last business on the paper.
The House adjourned at Six o'clock.

In the speeches delivered at the " grand dinner " of
the Agricultural Protection Society for Great Bri-
tain and Ireland, which came off on Monday, at the
Freemasons" Tavern, we perceive that Noble Dukes
and Right Honourable Earls, Honourable County
Members, and " intelligent tenant-farmers," expa-
tiated largely into all kinds of vague, commonplace, and
plausible generalities. The Duke of RICHMOND in the
chair, the Duke of BUCKINGHAM in the vice-chair
—(two Knights of the Garter) ; two or three Earls;
two or three Viscounts ; two or three Barons ; two
or three Baronets; and some three dozen Members of
Parliament; here was surely an ample sprinkling of
Magnates for the exposition to some 850 agricul-
turists, farmers, and others, of the principles of the
society, and of the mode in which the great landed
proprietors, who are members of it, propose to reduce
those principles to practical application. No such
exposition, however, (so far as we can find) really
took place. No one of the great questions upon
which the public have, within the last two years,
been so successfully appealed to for their repudiation
of the Bread trade monopoly was even attempted to
be met. The noble and rural speakers set up absurd
arguments, which they attributed to others, for the
sake of controverting them, with an eye to their
own especial purposes. They set up imaginary
ninepins, and bowled them down with irresistible
after-dinner logic. What good is to result to the
tenant• farmer—what benefit to the agricultural
labourers, and farm-servant—from the institution or
action of this protective society, wai a demonstration
that does not seem to have been considered essential
to the business of the evening. The tone of the
speeches and character of the proceedings were
marked by flatness and insipidity, which, not even
the " enthusiastic cheering" said to have hien
accorded !o some very mkdi,.cre speaking, thin very
high places at this festival, can conceal from the
observation of any one who may have carefully
perused the report. We do not mean to affirm, how-
ever, that nothing was said by anybody H hich was
either well said or good h► itself—valuable on its ow fi
account, o important in its hearing on other part:es
and other interests. On the contrary, we have lighted
upon;soras important " admissions" from the lord-

lords, to which the tent'•ts will he foolish men,
indeed, if, in all time to come, they do not hold them•
But we cannot forbear a previous allusion to the almost
ludicrous resentment with which Lord BEAumoicr

spoke of the defection of the present Premier's Ca-
binet from the cause of agricultural protection."
The Noble Lord declared "he could scarcely contain
the anger with which he mentioned the introduc-
tion, by the very Minister whooi that interest had
borne into power, of the last Corn Bat and the
Tariff." It is obvious, therefore, that. Lord Mau-
moNv's support of Sir ROBERT PEEL must have been •
founded on the least seltish—nay, on the most disin-
terested grounds ! and he bas been sadly disappointed •
in his expectations. For the same reasons he fell foul
of the Canada Corn Bill, as the most mischievous
which " the Minister could have introduced.
The " unkindest cut of all," however, that
which he had least expected from the Adminis-
tration" was, the " Grinding Corn in Bond Bill,"—a
measure, too, the more shabby in that they had pre- •
viously opposed and rejected Mr. Ilurr's Bill for
effecting a similar object in a plainer and more direct
manner.—Plain speaking has always charms for us,
even though it be heard somewhat late in the course
of a controversy. In this instance it may not be com•
plimentary to the party, but it is instructive, as well
as amusing to the public.—Lord BEAUMONT'S alarms
are not yet appeased ; from " straws which have been
already thrown up," lie remarked, " some measure
might be anticipated this session, from the same
quarter, which would still further diminish the pro- -
tection of the agriculturist." For our parts, we are
anxious to see what it will be.

The three topics which strike us as having been
the best handled at this dinner were those as t°
which we can go further towards concurring with the
views of the speakers. First, "as to the tenant-far'
mers of the country at large, after the example
Essex, having originated the question of the fleas'
sity for protection to agriculture," on the ground that
it is not exclusively a landlords' question ; eve think
they have done well. In this way they are led to
look into the whole matter; to study and analyze the
real elements of their real interest in it; and we anti:
&pate the best effects from such examinations an
discussions. Secondly, Mr. BAKER, of Writtle, 013*
served, that " looking to the amount of taxation in
this country, protection was necessary for the British
agriculturists ; at least, something must be deli
either to increase prices or diminish taxation "----un
this sentiment was echoed by other speakers, ats
subsequent stage of the proceedings. We difsent
from Mr BAKER on the first part of his propositi°°
(of which he speaks but doubtingly, himself). "
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entirely concur with him in the second and
we
doubt not our remedial treatment for the evil would
be the same. Sir ROBERT PEEL must recast bli
currency measures. The monetary system must be
re-established on its former more safe, wore
expansive, more economical, more productive,
more beneficial, more self-adjusting basis
paper. The costly mistake of giving the
ve
country a circulation of intrinsic, instead of symbolic
value, must be rectified. With that re establislne°4,"
high prices for the manufacturer and agriculturiest!
high wages for the artisan and the rustic labour.;
energy and development for foreign and domestlt
trade, will at once return. The third, and 121°1.
important result of the many speeches delivered, Wt';
that they elicited some remarkable declarations 3,
favour of the equitable title of the tenant to parti,l,,
pate in the advantages of his own good ,tewarclsir
of the lands rented by him. These declarations Were
not well calculated for the meridian of Drayt° I
Manor, or for the admiration of large landowners
whose properties are leased to the highest bidder,
without regard to other pretensions than price, I
' allotted to tenants-at-will, or under very short term.
determinable—by the landlords—at very short notice'
It is gratifying to find, however, such wise and e
lightened views of the consideration due to the
tenant as those announced in the following passages
by Mr. MILLS, of Engord, Wilts, and by Mr. S°l;
nort, M.P., and by the Duke of RICHMOND.

MILLS said :
or;
"As an extensive landlord himself, and speaking 2131.61
extensive landlords, he was anxious to enforce the proP% 0
and advantage of offering permanent improvements, an fro
increase the quantity of consumable food to be raised.
would wish to see this method substituted in place of renlia,
sions of five or ten per cent. of the rent. The capital solies
vested was always returned, while these per-centages, 1c
eq
the tenant got them into his coffers, he often scarcely an
what to do with them."

Mr. SOTIIERON, M.P., thus followed :
" He would venture to say, he had no doubt that tho re:
commendation they had heard that evening would be ge„llrey
rally adopted, and the landlords would cast off all triunPtb-eir
attempts to patch up a bad bargain, but would meet e
tenants fairly in the face and say, We are both in the
boat, let us make the best of it.' He trusted landlords W°' e.,
not put up farms to tender—(Loud cheers)—and when 000,6
rience had shown that rent and taxes could not be paid, wee
forward and offer a paltry average of reductions."—("e-
The Duke of RICHMOND declared that— isna
" There could not be a doubt that the landlords of Eng- of
could trust their tenants ; he knew it from his knowledgeery
the tenantry, and he declared that lie would rather lose e..„veot
ten
acre he possessed than let his farms by der.”—(Vehe'.
cheering.)
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These are important testimonies and pledges'
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though they come—to the true character and r-..•
and relations of the tenant. If the dinner of the Agr:e
cultural Protection Society had been prochictn
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even of positive harm, we could excuse much, on
count of avowals like these.

news'
Our Madrid letters, of the 30th ult., bring n"
The Three per Cents. were done that day on the M3('l.-,.
Bourse at 32a cash, and 33 at 60 da) s ; the Fi"
Cents, at 23k, at 60 days ; debt, without ;nterest, 7'

The news brought by the Faris papers is not or la(jeLl
importance. fhe leading articles chiefly refer t° thei
(~11U'en VICTORIA'S speech, of which the 11.1ini'ter1,
journals e
highly approve, while those of the OpP.''xit,l.e()t
show every disposition to condemn it, but without tin-
Never was there a more unsuitcessful attempt t°
ble. The Journal des Debats makes the following "" e
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equally the guest of the Sovereign arid Lif the 11.::;°;:e.
Queen VICTORIA expresses a lively satisfaction 4` ths
reception given by the English people to the 1i11.443!)f
de
FRENcrt, and she publicly associates herself in tut) so,
monstrations of her subjects, as her subjects 120 as
ciated themselves in the royal and gracious hospitality °0
their Sovereign. Such manifestations cannot but tighted
the bonds of that good intelligence, the maintenance*);
which is on both side; looked on as essential t°
dearest interests of the two countries." M. 1115-1 5
1. 1
paper is sadly puzzled to find out one flaw in the its
speech ; but, in order to show that it labours in
vocation, has recourse to the Speech of Lours Flitarrn:
and drawn a contrast between the two documents',.--
adverting to that of the KING of the FRENCH, it 5,12; f
" What effusion, what enthusiasm, what prodiga,"/ .°
friendly and tender expressions! Is not the wh°le 11;
ternal policy of France made subordinate to the liegre_,
accord? The address of the Chamber of Deputies 0070
no less verbose, no less exalted. The policy °f ,ed
French Government is there made to be closely attae"__.
to the encente cordiale. It is not only a
sion of feeling on the subject of the KING'S journeY: is is
a mark of goodwill towards the English nation; It
formal and explicit declaration from M. GuIZOT, vizeT• ot'enc.
threatened in France, places himself under the Pr° „ 5
Lion of Great Britain. The English Government relfut'hn
with agreeable phrases full of esteem for the 13:IN0 °ding
FRENCH, with an earnest desire of a good underpin the
between the two countries ; but, in comparison wihe_
polite eXPrae:d
passage we have quoted, the language of the Que Of
ENGLAND is reserved and almost frigid. The I:lsee-
Ministry evidently comprehends that the good depend
standing between the two kingdoms does not _
upon M. GUIZOT alone ; not a word is sent in aid of 01st
Cabinet in its distress, and there is not even
thesuost
allusion to the famous mixed Commission. Batt" bf
remarkable feature is the species of 'wane',
ac
Sir ROBERT PEEL between the Emperor of litisstAyol4l
the KING of the FRENCH. The afftctions of the Qtends
ine:ine towards our KING, while the Tory polieY Pali
towards the EMPEROR. This sort of marked impatar3,
so
of England between the two alliances, is then, it
aPPe_any
the only result gained by M. G UIZOT after 03"
sacrifices n• is 011
tional in lashing itself into a passion
still more ridiculous . ,fit di4r
"M. Guiziit must have experienced a pretty,trTrre,test
piiintment at the royal speech. It is in a tone 0 t tost,ith the
disdain that the Queen speaks of her good reports only oc'
French Government. The famous visit to Windsor
,rrapbs
cupies a little place in it, after two most gracious Parl,S, Mi
en the visit of the Emperor Nicholas to England..b.t thcre"
nistry and its head ought to be satisfied. Ex.bi.
fore, your kiset.ess in Profusion to please Great Britatiltild
tray the interests of your country to Serve beg, demi
obtain all indemnity for the English a,...cnt, who Inui %ice ig
your countrymen to be murdered. Now that the st-111, that
rendered—that the French flag has been
of lowered
th aBlldam.'
of Epgload, you scarcely obtaiu au ex-MOO
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