The Sun.
London, England, 1819-01-27 00:00:00

CORN LAWS.

Mr. CALLAGHAN, after a number of prefatory
observations, most of which, from the low tone
in which the Hon. Gentleman spoke and the
noise that prevailed in the House, were inaudible,
the object of which, however, from those we
could occasionally hear, appeared to be to show
the anomalies and irregularities of the present
system of Corn Laws, and the discrepancy of the
various Returns made under Ahem, moved that
there be laid before the House an Account of the
Quantity of Wheat, Barley, Oats, &c. imported
from Foreign Countries into England, Scotland,
and Ireland, tor the year ending the sth Ja-
[wary, 1818, and the year ending the sth Ja-
nuary, 1819.
Mr. ROBINSON was aware that errors bad occa-
sionally taken place in making up tire Returns,
but he did not think these errors were either so
numerous or important as they had been sup-
posed. It was, indeed, true, that from an error
in the Return from Glamorganshire, the average
in February last year was higher than it other•
wise would have been ; and that, if this error had
not been committed, the ports would have been
closed against oats. It arose from omitting to
reduce the common measure of the county to the
Winchester bushel.
Tire Motion was then agreed to.
COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY.

The CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHRQUER moved
that the House do resolve itself in a Committee
of Supply.
Sir Roßiti,r WILsoN said, be rose under that
anxious fear which every new Member felt on ad-
dressing the House for the first time, and he
hoped the House would extend to him that indul-

Bence which they were in the habit of granting to
others in a similar situation. He was afraid the
few observations which he was about to offer
would not he approved by some of his friends
around him, and he was certain they would be
condemned by those who were interested in the
continuance of the present ruinous system, and
who «' shed only to protract the evil day
till they should be beyond its effects. It was
not his intention to discuss questions which
were more immediately within the province of
professors of mathematicsl for he. was ashamed
to say that he was not conversant with these,
nor with some other subjects of political eco-
nomy. It had lately been stated in that House,
that the country was at present in a state of
calm joy and gladness ; but this he pro-
nounced to he the language of flattery. The
finance question of this country was no doubt
one of the greatest intricacy ; but without en-
tering into complicated details, he was sure
it was impossible for the people of this coun-
try to pay the taxes necessary for conduct-
ing the Government, and for discharging a debt
of 800,000,0001. Every thirty years a sum of
1,300,000,000/. was raised by taxes, and yet no
debt was discharged. The truth was, that there
was a great difference between revenue raised in a
country not burdened with national debt, and that
which was raised under the present circumstances
of this Country: in
,the one case, the revenue
passed through its natural channel ; in the other,
it had to pass through the strainers of Govern-
ment: The industry and prosperity of a country.
advanced or languished according as fiscal laws
interfered or not with the national resources. In
the one case, there was a healthy body with sound
limbs; in the other, a diseased body with unsound
limbs. It was this system which at present was
hurrying rich and poor into a chaos of anarchy.
It was said by Dr. Adain Smith, that the wealth
of a country consisted in the comforts and enjoy-
ments which the people, both rich and poor,
were able to obtain beyond the necessaries of
lite. It Was known, however, that multitudes of
people in this country were unable to procure
ever, the necessaries of life. Instead of the po-
pulation and the means of sustenance having in-
creased, as was stated in a recent publication by
an Honourable Member of that House, Govern-
ment had brought the nation to such a state, that
it was impossible to say what were the means
which could preserve the institutions of our
Country. None but an idiot would think of pay-
ing debt with borrowed money. What would be
the consequence of enabling Ministers to raise
supplies ? We should have .one army sent to
South America, not to repress injustice, but to
enable Ferdinand to enslave a people; another to
India, to seize all the revenue and occupy all the
territory, from the Ganges to the Caspian Sea ;
and" another to France, to make the Minis-
ter who had baffled oat's pay the
,debt which
was due to us. Let it not be supposed that
he would give this power unconditionally,
even to the Hon. Gentlemen around him, who,
if they were in office, might think, like their pre-
decessors, that every thing ought to be sacrificed to
military glory. Military glory was a poor reward ;
for where was the country which had enjoyed it,
and had not been rained by it ? Even to them
who would" have saved their country from the sus-
pension of the Habeas Corpus Act, he would not
be disposed to give this power, till the country
had obtained the only-effectual security, a re-
formed Parliament—a Parliament Which should re-
store to the people the elective franchise-7a Par-
liament which should not exhibit such a shame-
ful scene a 3 had been witnessed a few nights ago
in that House. (It was supposed the Hon. Member
alluded to thegreat number of Members returned by
the County of Cornwall, who came forward to take.

the oaths at the same time.) Tie was Itappy,.t at
his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Tierney) had given
notice of a motion on the subject of the Bank
Restrictions, and lie should think it his dUty
steadily to support it,' because he was anxious
thalevery possible information should be obtain-
edloit a subject so closely connected with the
finances of the country. It was not his
.intentiOn
to oppose the motion for a Comini ttee of Supply,
because he was not disposed toettibairass the Go-
vernment so far, it being necessary for every Go-
vernment to raise supplies.
A MEMBER, under the opposite Gallery, said
that in calculating-the debt at 800,000,0001. the
Hon. Gentleman had forgotten to give credit for
what had been redeemed of it—Another remark
which excited the cheers of the House we could
not catch.

The House having gone into,a Committee of
Supply, Mr. BeoGDEN was -calleti to the Chair
upon the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the Ex,"
CHEQUER, the supply wai'ioted of course, anti
the House resumed. The Report'-wa*ordered to
be taken into consideration to‘4-morrossr.
DR. HALLORAN AND CONVICT S./11K5.3
Sir T. B. MARTIN felt anxious ttirrinnteract-the
impression made by an Hon. Gentleman last night.
If there was any blame imputable, it ought not
to be attached to the Noble Lord at the head of
the Home Department : it ought to be transfer-
red to the Board over which he had the honour to
preside. On the 9th of this month he had made
a calculation upon the proportion of death; in
convict ships, and he found it to be 53 in 6,409
that is, I in about 112. The Hon. Gentleman
had stated, that they had been crowded so horri-
bly that it was sickening to see them. He had
said, that six of them had been crowded into the
space of six teet. This he utterly denied. They
had as great a space allowed to them as a
British soldier ; as great as he had had on
board a man of War, and his sons now
had.' None of the soldiers were allowed more
than 14 inches. The Hon. Gentleman then read
the returns of 9 s!iips, showing the number of
convicts which each carried, and the number that
died. The Baring, the very ship now in question,
had formerly cart let! to Botany Bay 300 convicts,
of whom only one died • she had had then the
same officer as master, and the same surgeon as
now. There never was an instance of greater
kindness and humanity than the surgeon had shown
to all under his care. He believed there existed
not an abler -or a more skilful surgeon. He had
been recommended by Sir Richard Keats, princi-
pally for his skill and humanity.—(Name, name.)—
It was Dr. Reid.
Mr. BENNET said, that as to the number of per-
sons, lie had visited two ships, in one were 300
convicts, in another 447. In the Baring he found
20, he might say 21 persons ; for Mr. Eveson,
who had spent a considerable fortune was crowd-
ed, for his passage, into the same room. He went
thence below, and sat upon a bcisi He was much
shocked with the scene. Each crib was six feet
by five and a half. He saw three laying in one of
them, and asked bow many lay there, he was told
that six did. He called the other three, and they
immediately presented themselves. It might be
that the orders from the Admiralty were that only
four should lie in a crib. He might have asked
the master to accompany him. But he represent- j
a to the master, with horror, the state of the
convicts. His reply was,
'° For God's sake,
Sir,
don't go away with the impression that the convicts
alone are crowded. Look into my cabin, look
into the soldiers' apartment, we are all ,equally
crowded." So far was he from dcaYing it, that
he only aggravated the representation
him, The Hon. Gentleman had compared the si-
tuation of convicts with that of soldiers. If sol-
diers were cruelly treated, that was no justifica-
tion for cruel treatment to convicts ; but of the
soldiers one-third were on deck
..;_s he knew from made to
night. n
ence. But all
the convicts were shut up
during the night. But he pledged himself that
any one of the Gentlemen opposite would be
satisfied if he went down to see these convicts.
The Right Hon had sadl , that . Gentleman his o‘dvnurilegapetrir.
ascertained that Dr. O'Halloran lirtitnotibtele
elnhialld.
Not ill ! He bore on his countenance the proofs
of his illness, too strong to be mistaken. He had
never seen man so changed. Such testimony was
more likely to be true than the testimony relied
on by the Right Hon. Gentleman. It should be
recollected too, that the Surrey, which carried
200 convicts, of whom 50 died, had sailed at this
very season ; and that the reason stated by the
Board for this mortality was, the season of the
year. He cared .not whether seamen or soldiers
had as small a space assigned to them. Those
disused to a sea life must find such confinement
horrible beyond conception. The smell, too,
which he had not mentioned, was surely a terrible
aggravation. He could then re-assert, that it
was a great act of cruelty to confine men in such
a situation for a number of hours, at night, and
under the line. Even in the abhorred slave-trade,
each slave had one foot and a half. Considering
these facts, he was not surprised to find, by the
trials he Bail seen reported in the Newspapers,
that those wretches, goaded by every kind of suf-
fering, chose rather to perish in battle than not
to attempt to effect their escape. In bringing
those cruel afflictions under the attention of the
House, God knew be had no other object than to
rescue his fellow-creatures front stiffering an un-
necessary and cruel aggravation of their punish-
ment. God knew that he had never proposed
any other object for his exertion, than to diminish.
the sum of human misery.
Sir 'l'. B. MARTIN explained. To make up for
the want of liberty to come on deck, the convicts
had a ton more allowed to them in order to walk

in. He then read a letter mitten by asonvict on
his arrival, thanking the master and surgeon for
their kindnes,.
Sir ISAAC COFFIN rose to address the House on
the subject.
The SFEAKBR remarked, that perhaps the busi-
ness of the House was really forwarded by not
adhering strictly on all occasions to the prescribed
order; he had, therefore, not interrupted the
Member who first spoke upon the subject, con-
ceiving that, as his statements had official au-
thority, it would be satisfactory to the House to
hear them. Upon this view, the Gentleman who
had replied was necessarily out of order. But it

• het iier
was entirely in the pleasure of the House w--io
?this discussion should proceed further.---(bc-1
hear! arid Chair, chair !)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCIIECILVIR
the Siadjournment of the H. „job(
,ISAAC COFFIN said, he ousehad since lot 15t
applied to the Navy Board, and had now ii°"°-ia
that his Hon. Friend (Mr. Bennet) had beertije
an error : he should have asked the Master °`
ship to accompany him.
DEDUCTIONS FROM NAVAL OFFICERS. in
General FEttoussoN, seeing a gallant 00cer„,1‘
his place (Sir George Hope), begged leave
him if certain fees were not deducted fry
theN3ol?
Officers going abroad, on leave being givend
The sum deducted from an Admiral vois , -

a proportionate sum from other.OffiCers. fee,
Sir G. Nora said, it was'true_that,eerfaiii old I
werelteducted on such occasiOns..:' It was '1%4
custom. The money so obtained a g.ad'forni-nio
gone to the Secretary 'and Chief Clexics; cd° it
penswion had been given them forAis,',Bll,,ar.
was now regularly accounted for every half
General FeaGuss)sti was'satiafied that the of
ney so obtained was properly applied; but he
not satisfied as to its being levied. 1.01
Sir GEORGE IVARRENDER said; the subject trie,
been regulated by an ()oder; of Council, 0'1144
presentation from a Board .cit Admiralty, at
Lord Spencer presided.
The House then adjourned.

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LAW INTELLI6ENC.S. 1
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COURT OF CHANCERY, TArtlg•'
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LORD STEWART'S CAM •
TEMPEST V. ORD.t.',!:.t::: lite,
we have repeatedly laid before our
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL iiitie W ei,- „lid
61deri: or,
he was instructed to request that/Airs' I.l.lher
the testamentary guardian, would tate ‘v.,',4-000
she intended to persist in her appeal to-die i tot
of Lords, as if she did not, he would no" itigG
that part of the order which restrained the
of Lady Emily Vane Tempest %vitt), Lord Ste
should be discharged. The jadement °' sad
Court was delivered so early as J illy I°'' no.
surely since that there had been time 1"r 'LW
I"ing any papers, atur some time must tine"! af
fore the case could be heard 111. the Li°l43e
Lords.sew 0°
Mr. ABERCROMBY (for Mrs. Taylor) itiois
meaning whatever in making such an app
as the present. , ,glit
Sir ARTHUR PIGGOTT said, it had been t')°,
~e 4
proper to make it, as the appeal must be
finifer.
marrorc
within fourteen days after the meeting ° eV.
!lament, and these fourteen days would sannoits
1 herla Ladyship p
pire. He trusted no unnecessary delay would
Mr. HoaNa followed on the same side. .ia,
Mr.ce. HART,
yasahTip„ for
sincerelythe
et
pspl'e at
`should not be unnecessarily suspended.
i tvich
1 Mr. ABERCROMBY still was liOt satisfied ii„,
the reasons assigned for making such so °Pvl,l4
cation. No doubt Mrs. Taylor would pers
_lye
in the appeal, and she stood exactly in the s"J.,
situation as other appellants did, and iind 00
site whatever to throw any delay in the vvilY' she
a evrl r
e°
T e,„,
The LORD CHANCELLOR • Observed, that
order of the House of Lords w s for
e
days, but their Lordships would nevertheless e%"'
tend that period, on a proper cause being she°
resented witbin fourte
titian of Appeal being p
to them for so doing. He felt he bad no 'rig
to ask any appellants, from this Court, ally cries'
tion as to their persevering or not in their or
peals, and in this case he would nor do it. la
'
cases of-long Petitions, such as came from cot
land or Ireland, longer time than 14 drys "IS

,granted by the House of Lords.
Applicaiion,dismissed, but without costso-
Lordsfilp would not interfere. 111
The case of Drury-lane Theatre Will be nil'
beard on Thurstiay.—(Morning Chronicle )

KING'S BENcx.=—Notiiiug of any utateli
terest occurred yesterday.

BIRTH. . of Cie
On. Monday last, the lady of Thomas Hudson, Esq.
mina Lacy, near Dorliing-,*of a daughter.

AR. lbfr
On Tuesday, the 19th lust. at St. Kew, -Edward, ice
Esq. of Kelby, Devon, Captain in his Majesty's bistthe
Infantry Regiment, to Sarah, eldest daughter of
Henry Braddon, Esq. of Shisdon Lodge

DIED.
On the I Sth inst. at Meibury House, Dursetshire, the CA-glir.
toss of Ilchester.
A few days ago, at Nailer, in Devonshire, C°l9sali
O'Dogherty of the Marines.
On the -23 d inst. in the 78th year of his age, the Res'.
mond Heysham, 47 yeais Rector of Little Al unden,
Returning from Dominica, on board the Jane, whirl'
unfortunately lost in Cardigan Bay, in the gale of Suva/
week last, Mr. Thomas Washington Kershaw, a passenger;4
who, with the captain and all the crew, perished. The 04
two bodies washed a-shore were those of Mr. Kersliaw_.fai
the Captain, which were interred in the Church-yards I"°..-
Holyhead.

PROVINCIAL BIRTHS, MARRIAGES, AND DEAVIS'
BI liTNS.
Lately, at the Parsonage, Rnsltall, Wilts, the Lady of to
Rev. Wm. Ranisden, of a daughter.
On the 21st init. Mrs. J. S. Robertson; Pitt-street, Etlip°
burgh, of a son.
At Stud:bridge, near Edinburgh, on the 10th lost. Mrs
Currie, of a.daughter.

OIL a Of
At Edinburgh, on
,the MA
ED.
. isth inst. Dr. Charles Shia— f
Duncarn, to Miss Margaret Parlanc, youngest daughter
the latehu Alexander Parlane, Esq. surgeon in Glasgow. of
Thursday last, at Wituborne, Dorset„ Mr. Jewel/2
Newport, Isle of Wight, to Miss Moss, of the former Il,l3vceisf.
Lately, at Eallywaclough Church, county of Cork,
Perinefather, of Newport, in the county of TipperarY,
son'ot the Rev. John Pcnnefather, to Isabella, daughter 0
Wru. Harden, of Debshorough, Esq.
Lately, at Lambertoti Park, Ireland, Captain ova,. rers.°'
16th Lancers, to Eliza, eldest daughter of ttre lion. Juitta
Moore.

DI ED.
At Jedburgh, Scotland, on the 14th inst. Mrs. Betty ft,onene:
wife of James Murray, Esq., second daughter of the rl°,,
George Home, and graud-daughter of Charles, Earl of 1-ioal,
Lately, the Rev. John Shephard, Minister of St. Michted
parish, Cambridge; Vicar of Walltritigham, in the co;.!"titb-,
Nottingham ; and Deputy Chancellor and Surrogate 11,
.
diocese of Ely. He was formerly of Trinity College, P
1774, M.A. 1777.
Lately, in Ennis, Ireland, suddenly, aged 66, FosterParsol*
Esq. Proprietor of The Ennis chrodzif:le.
On the 4cl 'inst. Charles Thomas, eldest son of the IteV'
T. Fallow, Rector of Codford-Saint-Peter, Wilts.

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