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London, England, 1819-05-18 00:00:00

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Lad „ dear Monarchy
tin ben ocertbrown by the Puritans, and
nini-Ita4eZenedp.ont,cea:Fon nearly to by an
it was to y and
,a!hitrary power ; and
tie,gnarcl against such disastrous con:
Vences that there -.was au express provt-
:" made to have a Priitestant Monarch
ru:ti the Throne. This provision, theie-
ththee' l'""g recognited., by the- Constitution,
therlkople ml ;ht disclaim their allegiance unless
"s a Protestant King and also a Protestant
Lit'vernent. The succion' to the throne was
bnewis' to be Protestant ; and be would ask up-
'that principle could there be a Protestant
if it vras.a matter of utter indifference what
>lttvi,Frs he had, tt !tether Protestant, Catholic, or
t tthy other denomination?. He maintained that
it
Wag
11°t bY.an‘. means consistent 'with the pro-
sml) of the Legislature, that those who were to
et
asadViS"B to the. King shOuld'he Of a teliei,m
hot
tft L,;(l:st, from
,
to ( Hear, hear !)—lf a
protestant King, under such eirCOITOI)
O BCe, should
ta
nSeietlt ouslv refuse to comply With the advice
bf his Ministers, what power, be would' ask,
"il,lll "'lapel him ? Or what constitutional uhli
coul,t be imposed 'upon hint in such a case ?
• th's Lor,iship ar4ned thelse pisints most ably; and
• Lon Proceeded to support the argimients of, the
od:Chancellor, cud toshow the fallacy of tho,t,e
t•,•,L''ll.l Grey ; an.) atter,pointing out, the On.
t" which the Uti'stitntion-Wodtitie exposed
jt the atlmislsion Catholica to all places of
el',Lvet and einoloment, conclndeti by giving b."
uLti lie,fative to the motion.
A:11h- %illness of LAMDOWNg spoke at consi-
-o;ettfule kugth in favour of the motion, arguing
at the ft~fwhich it hid been asiertetr would
v• from admittiog our Catholic countrymen
the D'ditical privileges which they required,
tlnt
im,!ginary. In the army they might
th; -the highest rank ; and be contended
if they were by the tenets of their religion
at)stile as was said to the establishments of
t.,
dt,r
,
t•ltte was much more means of
to."to mischief. in the ,single military office of
'l'l4'3l'4i-of the Forces, than in all the places
of Political and civil pow.er for which they sought
rbe nt4le eligible. As to the supremacy of the
Pe. the was no instalCe to be tonne. of those
4.773 being produced by that article of their
arty of the oilier countries of Europe in
it was so much more likelylo be ilauger-
th"" hi this. As to the arguMent against the
tonc
ti,e derived from the Coronation Oath, *it'd
11, "triples of the Revolution, he maintained,
l„ s‘t lt %itai directly against those principles to til-
to 1118 l the Crown was prevented from admitting
s "Tyke any body of its subjects whom it
ti)i,glit think worthy of trust.

s .
1'1.411 of WesTstonatawn did not think it
st,cd-,`'3111 to make any great professions of his
adherence to the principles of toleration,
inire:tise he had beet) insttumental to many mew-
stfficiently testified his Opinions 'on
st`bject. !Int it was because he thought the
eli4dee a"a of the empire would be
ti,„i4ngted, 'by acceding. to the claitus of the Ca-
ll de.,!,-t
-1140.--13. e .ve.a,s..resolved to give this motion
Atz„-,"leci ue;,tative. 'Otte objection to the motion
itt yattueness. If it were agreed-to, the Pro-
''.ll:'„4lll3 would he alarmed by the idea, that every.
1101. 'as to be . conceded ; on the other
1,;(1' the Calitilics woold'soppose,' either that
• brat l'evy measure of exctusitin Was.intended, or
sorn,thtng less than their 'whole demands
Ntoiel '1" be conceded. In short, both parties
'`(l 'be discontented and displeAsed. or alarmed'
etiji4reeilig• to this motion. The danger of RC--
pin.lilnligto the claims of the 'Catholics was, in his
‘vih so great, that they could not be granted,
l'ot overturning the main ptinciples of the
There was not any torel.gn Pro-
to °lit State which had trot thought it necessary
Ati."4rd aettinst Popery, by passing laws as se-,
•c.,:',Or generally mach more severe, than't!lose
I'aihed of in theCoristittition of this country.
tbe: „, -:: tenets of the Catholic religion were such, that
were
°wholly incompatible with the tolera-
t;.°E‘ existence of the' Protestant religton.—
.

tes,l"."e this, he referred to a letter, writ-
-1): the present rope, io answer to a
bypro-
-1411",vde B te while Ruler of France,
oonapar, ,
itil:'l.l"4"l4ig and lice toleration to all den°-
, f isltltiOns Of religion, in which hi, Holiness r -
. 111 7;1 his assent to it, as inconsistent with the Ca-
t °..c
f`'ith• This was sufficient proof of the nal
buere the Catholic religion. An argument had
ett terY unjustifiably
drawn froth the petitions
u-ented in favour of the Catholics, as showing
ttlfLDl'llie opinion of the great body 'of the people
tiet7ogland was in favour of their claims.
ilti.se
prop that this was the fact ; aril he would i-
';it.from the conduct of those very Noble
a ;int-. ,Ito adduced it. For instance, just before
130j;,;`rht election, it was well known that the
enne‘ele.at questions were agitated were those
inoinived to be roost agreeable to the popular
icon, -1111°o• Now, it so happened that this tocs-
in Which had been agitated almost every year
tie this century, had last year, when a' general
thettioo Was Bppmai.hing, been wholly omitted—
.. ap Noble Lords opposite, instead of keeping
e 'ye
the Poblic opinion, by carrying on Phe dis-
* tj:6sion, thotoila it most prudent to be silent On
(Lat occasion—they were as mute us mice—
thaatukhter)—and why ? because they %yell knew
• 104;11," Popular opinion With respect to it was
di Y different trout their own, and they
herefore choose to risk their popularity
:tilli ttt
ilesallt° gioittnating it. One great argument for this
was, that it would put an end to all
" ensicws. If he couhl think -it really would
o
to it,
this effect, be Would go a great way to agree
trl2t,
N 13nt it was admitted, even by sevend of
Obic Lords opposite, that these concessions
n9t effect a final settlement of all dissen•
if td
-11!• Those Noble Lords said, however, that
uhtpe concessions were granted all other matters
occasioned dissension would. be easily
settled, NV1.117 then ill this case he must say, that
fitst"""hi rather see these other matters settled
11. e --(lle4r, hear, and laughter.)—What were
stas°,ll'ii:ti"Hs of Mr. Pitt on the-subject-1 No malt
th e Zealously anxious for carryirrg any mea-,
In this great Statesman, but he, pop,
v'hets(L"ghter)—he did not see so far as some
our Prophecy so much ; but be never