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ELECTION PETITIONS.

The order for 'regulating the presenting Erection Petitions
was read, and the Petition front Trag6riy, complaining of all
undue Election, and presented in the last Session of Par-
liament, was ordered to be taken into consideration ou the
13th February.

Mr. C. W. iVYNN doubted whether the House had not ex-
ceeded its powers by taking the course pursued with respect
to this Petition. When it ordered a Petition to be taken into
consideration on a particular day, he held the House to be
bound to inert on that day, unless' the consideration of
the P6tition were -previously postponed, as otherwise a mo-
tion for adjourning over that day might defeat the order for
taking any petition into consideration.
A Petition against the return for Aldhorough was ordered
to be taken into consideration on the 13th March.
COLLECTS. AND ORDERS IN COUNCIL.
Mr. H. CLIVE presented copies of the Collects inserted in
the L:targy from the time of James the First, together with
collies Of the Orders in Council issued for altering the names
of the members of the Royal Family inserted therein.—Or-
dered to lie on the-table.
LIBEL ON PARLIAMENT.

Sir J. NEWPORT gave notice, that on 'Thursday next, be
would bring under the consideration of the House a libel on
both Houses of Parliament, which had been pubilLed. •
PETITIONS. -

Sir W. LEMON presented a Petition from a place in the
county of Cornwall; complaining of the course pursued to-
wards the Queen, and praying for the restoration of her Ma-
jesty's name to the Liturgy.—Ordered•to be printed.
Mr. WYVILL presented a Petition, signed by 1700 inhabit-
ants of the City of York, praying for inquiry into the conduct
of Ministers, with respect to the late proceedings against her
Majesty, and for the restoration of her name to the Liturgy.
Ordered to he printed. - •
Mr. JAMES presented a similar Petition on the same sub-
ject, front certain inhabitants of the City of Carlisle, in which
thh House was prayed no longer to repose confidence' in
nisters, who could sanction a-measurcso.unconstitutional as
that which had been resorted to against her Majesty.--:-Order-
ed to be-printed.
Mr. DENNISON nresetited Petitions froth the Port of Lon-
don, Ship Caulkers of Rotherhithe, Bermondsey; and Saint
Paul's,Deptford, praying for the restoration of her Majesty's
rights.—The Hon. Member strongly supported the prayer of
the petition, and moved that it should be printed.
Sir E. KNATCHBULL remarked on the frequency of mo-
tions for printing petitions, and suggested to the Hon. Mew.
her, that at a period like the present, when economy was so
very desirable in every department, that it would he well to
abstain from pressing far the printing of every petition like
the present. He therefore hoped the Ron. Member would
not persevere in the motion he had made.
Mr. DENNISON agreed with the Hon. Gentleman that
economy was desirable, but could not agree with him that
the present Petition ought not to be printed. Those from
whom it came, though in a humble situation, were as much
entitled to have their feelings gratified .by having their
sentiments made known to their fellow subjects as any other
body of men.could be.
Lord MiLTON was glad to find the Hon. Member for Kent
so alive to the necessity, of observing the most rigid economy,
and he trusted
.the House and the Country would regard it
only'as an earnest of the zeal with which, for th'i ftiture,,the
.Hon. Member would labour for the reduction of every use-
less expellee and'unneeessary office. PerhapS he would find
that the office of Receiver-General of the Land Tax was one
which might be dispensed with under the presenteircumstances •
tti business connected with it done
through some other clrannel—(A laugn.)--;:stioubla
this effect be made, he hoped the Countryscould Se favoured
tti support of the Hon. Gentleman, who might perhaps
Ow an important witness of this subject. The Petition was ors
dered tee ist printed.
Mr. M•KENZIE presented a Petition from the Royal Burgh
of Kenvoir, praying for the restoration of her Majesty's name
to the Liturgy. Ordered to be printed.
Mr. CARTEt presented a Petition from the Borough of
Portsmouth,praying that steps may be take,' to invest her
Majesty with all the rights of Queen Consort.--Ordered to be
printed.
Mr. LINDSAY presented a Petition from the Incorporated
Hammer-men of the Royal Burgh of Perth. praying for the
restoration of her Majesty's name to the Liturgy.—Ordered
to lie on the table.

Sir C. DUNDAS presented a Petition from certain Agri.
Culturists and other Inhabitants of the County of Berks, com-
plaining of the proceedings against the Qoeen' and calling
for the restoration of her name ro the Liturgy. He had only
to say, that from his own experience he could assert the pe-
titioners loyal. subjects, and sincerely attached to the Consti-
tution of the country.—Ordered to be printed.
Sir C. DUNDAS then presented a Petition from the Free-
holders of the Borough of Newbury, Berks.—Ordered to be
printed.
Mr.DENNISON presented a Petition from Godalming, pray-
ing for the restoration of her Majesty's name to the Liturgy;
and for a Reform of Parliament. is friend to the prayer of
this Petition, and to moderate Reforms, he (Mr. Dennison)
begged to move that the Petition should now be read.—The
Petition was then read, and ordered to be printed.
Mr. •CALV.ERT presented a Petition from the town of
Hertford and the neighbonrhood, praying the restoration of
her Majesty's name to the Liturgy, and that a provision be
made for her suitable to her rank.—Ordered to be printed.
• Mr. W. WILLIAMS presented a, similar Petition frosts the
Inbalaitants of Lambeth, voted at a public meeting-, and
signed by more than 2000 persons.—Ordered to be printed.
Sir R. FERGUSON presented Petition's from the Royal
-Burghs of Einhorn, Culross, and from Burnt Island, praying
fur the dismissal of his Majesty's Ministers, and tht restora-
tion of her Majesty's rights.—Ordered to be printed.
Mr. SYKES preseeted a Petition from the Landholders and
Occupiers of the Parish of Conli:ham, in the County of York,
setting forth the distressed state of Agriculture, in that part
of the country, which was such as to threaten the Farmer,
relief were not afforded, with utter ruin. He wished to press
this subject on the-consideration of-the House, because it
seemed to escape the attention of the Government. In the
Speech from. he Throne, lie did not perceive it seas mention-
ed. He supposed it was forgotten by the Noble Lord and his
Majesty's other Ministers, with respect tu what had been said
in that House of the appearances of returning national pros-
perity. He was bound to believe that it was true, but he had
been able to meet with nobody out of doors oho believed one
word about it. The agricultural interests at all events deserve
souse attention— The Petitioners prayed for the removal of
Ministers, ;led a tonal change of measures. As far as his ex-
perience went, he felt disposed to say, that nine-tenths-of the
,nation concurred with them in the wish thus expressed. He
proceeded to condemn as foolish and mischievous the late
proceedings against the Cloven, which be regarded as' having
been nursed by folly find supported by perjury.—The Petition
was ordered to printed.
Mr. Alderman WOOD presented,two Petitions 'frem the
Wards of Farringdon. Within arid Bishopsgate, praying fur
the restoration of her Majesty's name to tine Liturgy, and for
the restitution of all her rights.—The Petitions were ordered
to-be printed.
Mr. HOBHOUSE rose to supply some additional com-
ments on the assertion made on a foraer night by the Noble
Lord opposite, that the Government possessed the confidenee
of the country. He had Emir petitions to present. The first
was one from ~the Inhabitants of the parish of St. George,
Hanover-square.. In that parish there was a mock:loyal
, party, by which a mock-loyal Address, had been got op. This,
,after lying ten days for signature, had received four hundred
and fitneen names. Such was the success of the mock-loyal
AddresS—while the :present petition, after lying for signa-
ture abent ten hours, had been signed by an equal' number,
and would probably have received the signatures of as many
more had it remained open to be signed till now. The peti-
tion prayed the House to take into its considerations tine pre.
sent state of the Country, and to restore the name of the
Queen to the Liturgy. The second petition was front the So-
ciety of Bookbinders to the same effect. The third from the
Town of Langford, signed by uue thousand and seventy per-

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sins,•calling the attention of the House to the iiistrees',l
the Country—prayed. far ati inquiry into l>e atrieirivs, aC
Manchester-and for t' restoration of ht,r
the Liturgy, and restitution of ail her just rights, tijid far
a.Parliamentary Reform. The fourth petition was froai the
Town of Sidaiouth, signed 450 individuals. This leaat
could not be objected to as disaffected. Last year, Soeli.
was their attachment .tOlbe Government, that they could
-not be brought to petition, on account of.the busines.r.; ac
Manchester. Now they came forward to petition for the
missal of Ministers. He was hare:Med to urge.as far as he
possibly could, the importance of these petltions a being take
• into the consideration of the House. With rennet to
.the
great questionwhicb was to come on that night,,be did not
propose to,•speak at that moment. He would, bowever, say
one word to the Member for Guildford. He .was in error
When he stated that question to be merely a legal gut stjun.-,
He Nlr. Hohhouse) considered it to be very different from:a
mere legal - question. It the right of the King to alter, the
names ill the Liturgy were established, still they.woidd have
to inquire whether it was lit that a person should lie e, ,n-
-demised without inquiring or hearing, and on evidence which
had ptoved insufficient to make out the charge against the-
party to the satisfaction of the Tribunal before whoa', she- was
to be tried. It unglit seem strange that the question of Re-
form should be connected with the proe..a;ilings against tht
Queen. He, however, thought it was right for, accrodiiig
to the just notions of these petitions, had any real respooSi-
hility attached to Ministers, they would net have dared to
take the part they had taken. The. him would now be takea
from the eyes of those who had believed that the,r,.pc
were either actually orvirtaally represented in that I lonse.
They hal the hest proof that that House was nut raiii:iikied
to represent. the people by Ministers, in the CMOitel of. a
Noble Earl, •who, at the commencement of. the late pro-
ceediugs, had disregarded the ey.pressed sense of that
House on the subject, but had subseqnently given up- the
Bill, as lie said, from regard for the feelings of the peo-
ple of England. From this, it was clear, that the House
of Commons was not considered to express, the sense of the
p •uple, and that the Noble Lord to Whom he had allotted,
thought it necessary-to collect the sentiments of the Pahlic
trout some other quarter. The HouSe ought now in-some
way or other, to prove that it represented 'the country: In
other times, when Ministers brought forward measures of
great importance, if they failed to carry them, they retired.
Now the case was different, He remembered, though he was
not in Parliament at the time, that the present Ministet a had
staked their situations on the Property Tax, but when the
decision of the House was against them, they did not retire.
Iu Site same way-they had determined to stand or fall by the
Bill of Pains and Penalties. That had failed, but slid they •
had not ietired. He believed that if they should he defeated
(of which he had not the smallest idea),that still they would
remain its office to-morrow and the day after, and that in fact •
they would remain in their present situations so long as they.
lived, .and dying, would hand them over to their heirs, ad-
ministrators, and assigns.- He concludid by expressing his
determinatiou to use his humble effotts in opposing Minis-:
tens, to save,his country from impending ruin.
Mr. Strjeant ONSLOIV said the idea imputed to him, was.
too absurd for him es er to have entertained. He then ex-
plained what he had said on a former evening, but denied
having said that the question about to he discussed was mei e-•
ly a legal question. He had not merited to be treated as an
idiot, and desired if lie were to be cited in future, that Ins
words Might be correctly quoted.
- Mr. HOBHOUSE had never supposed the Hon. and Learn-,
ed Gentleman to be an idlot.,—(Cries of " Order l")—Ile was
the last man in the world to say any thing to disparage the
Learned Gentleman, or to speak with peisonal disrespect of
any one.. Many, however, had thought, as well as h'insell,
that the Hon. and Learned Gentleman considered the ques-
tion about to come on to he merely a legal qurstion.-7-(Cries
of " No, no..!')—The Petitions were ordered to be printed. .
Mr. F. PALMER presented a Petition, signed by 1,300 of
the Inhabitants of Reading, in Berks, praying the House to
call -for the dismissal of Ministers, and to reject any new
measures that may be resorted to, with a view of casting 4
stigma on the Queen. It also prayed for a Reform. The
Hon. Member fully concurred with the Petitioners.—The

tition was ordered to he printed.
Sir W. DE CItESPIGNY presented a Petition from the
;.o)...liitauts of Walton Hampstead.—Or dried
to lie on the table.
Mr. M'PHERSON GRANT presented a P:lition from the
Royal Burgh of Wick, praying for the rectoration of her Ma-
jesty's name to the Liturgy.—Ordered to be piloted.
Mr. DENMAN presented a Petition to the Same eiTier,
from Nottingham, and praying that the Goren may he
ie-
stored to the quiet enjoyment of all her just rights, and that
those rua) be punished win' conspired against her,. acid no
supplies granted till this object should be attained.-0; dried
to be printed.
Mr. presented a Petition, praying the restoration
of the Queen's name to the Liturgy, front the Lord MaN or,-
Aldermen, Livery, and Common Council of the watt of Not- •
tingham. The Hon. Member was sorry the name of the
Queen had ever been withdrawn trona the, Liturgy, and !toped
smile steps would be taken to relieve the eoutitry hunt the
distressed state to which it had been reduced.

Mr. MARTIN (of (lalway) approved of this Petition infi-
nitely more than of that which had been presented before by
the Queen's Attorney-Genet al. lie made every allowance fur
the situation in which that Learned Gentleman stood, as cite
of her Mikiesty's Ndvisers, but before a foul conspiracy
charged, proof of the fact ought to be obtained in some way. •
He would now give notice, that if in the approaching debate
he should have charges of conspiracy, peijury, and false
Swearing from the other side of the House, he for one would
Challenge those Gentlemen.—(A laugh.)—He would chal-
lenge those Gentlemen to put their assertions in some way of
proof. This could be dune by moving for certain parts.—
(Cries of " Move.") lie hoped the Gentlemen- un the other
side would be cautious how they preferred a charge of a eOti-
spiracy to degrade, or imputed to their opponeots any other
foul acts against the Queen.
Mr. DENMAN had no apology.to offer. The Idnguage.ai-
luded to by-the Hon. Gentleman was not his, but that ot the
Petition, which lie had presented. It was not his, though
possibly on a proper occasion he might justify nod defend it.
The Petitioners merely stated, that in their opinion a c
racy land existed, and expressed a hope that if such were the
tact, the parties to it would be brought to .punishment. In
this sentiment he should expect the Host, Gentleman himself
to concur. On %shoo) punishinernt would be likely to
it was net for Win to say.—Mr. mAnTIN explained.
The petition tvas ()Hoed to be printed.
Mr. L. KECK presented a petition from Hinckley, in Lei-
cestershire, • praing for the restoration of the Queen's name
to the Liturgy, and calling the iittenti'm orParlMment to'the
distressed state of Agriculture, and the stoguition-41:orn-
inerce.—Ordered to be printed.
M. P. MOt)RE presented a similar petition from certain
inhabitants of Monmouth, and a second trim anuillyr brahen
of the inhabitants, the Waterloo Lodge of Loyal lode-
pendent Odd Fellows.
The former petition was ordered to be printed—the litter,
on a point of form, was tv.thdriiwn fur the present.
A petition from the inhabitants of NM 51101'01419 was pre-
sented;-and ordered to be printed.
Mr. HEATHCOTE presented, a petition from Boston, in
the County of Lincoln. praying the resforatitni her

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jesty's wished the present slate of things .tit en
end. In a case where so rnurAt mot he given—whose so
little could be withheld, the more liberal courier woti:d per-
haps be the must popular, the best, and the j US! t si pol
The petition was utdered to be printed.
Mr. HONEYWOOD present; d a petition similar to •tlie
preceding one respecting the Queen, :from cortain
-tants of the Town of Margate, in Kent, front Lodge
Ltiltan-
tria, No. 1.
T
he SPEAKER remarhid, a former petition had been
withdrawn till the next.sirtisig of the 1-Aidge itn of
form, as• it was doubtful whether the llouSe had accii tit ihe
habit of receiving petitions. f ro m Lodge's.
Attera few words front Mr. TIERNEY, in defence of the
right of the People to petition from a, place that might be
called a Lodge, Mr. Floneywoed consented to withdraw the
petition for the present.
Lord ALTHORPF. presented 'Petitions on the saute sub-
ject front Wellingborough, Kettering, in Niirtharopro.ishire,
and the Otiginal Union Society at Daveniry.—Ordered tit he
printed.
Similar 'Petitions were presented by. Colonel Dahis, Mr,
Ilennat, Lord Stanley, and Mr. Monk, front Fulford,
low, Cborley, certain Inhabitants of Manchester, 'Caine (in
the County Palatine of Lancaster,) %Vantage, 131a}•, and
Thatebani, Berks.—Ordered.to tie printed.
Mr. HUME presented a Petition from thv Bortingli rif
Brecon, in Wales, 'praying for the restoration of her Majesty'*

trirne in-tbe Liturgy, and the disaticsal of !lig Ntaje3ty's Mi-
.3i4titr3 as nnfit fir their high (ate. The lion. Memiier
.vite,l his entire cAseicnrretace in the prayer of the petitioners.

-Ordered to- he printed.
• Mr. KENNEDY rose to present'thtee Petitions from diffe-
ri.tit towns in the County of A)r, in Scotland. Precion-ly to
presenting these. Petitions, he was anxious to know front any
Member of his Majesty'sCrovernment then present, what were
their Intentions with respect to the office of Lord Registrar of
nrotlawi, which had lately become vacant.
.lard CASTLEREAGH soia he could not nndertalsc to give
art answer to the Him. Gentleman's que:tinn.
Mr. KEN-NEM' (as we understood him,) said, that if the
Nohle Lord whet had jss t .00ttien, nimselt that
this Office be filled tip till the matter conic to he
discussed its that.Honse, br would withdraw the retitions_ he
then hod iniiiOnitortriiireseurta the Mince.
Lord CASTLERF,AGH txpressed his willingness to trite
Zbe Tlonourobte "Member a direct answer tin the subject ;
battle .rezfoted his ittohifify to do so, as his atten'iim had
nos Itittinto be-rn called to the matter ;- it was not- in.lris de-

pArtnient
11INKT.S!.AON sala a fiw word, which were inaudihie

in Ilic -Gallery:
Mr. KENNEDY ecsumed.—There was an Act of I'arlia
neut relating to this very point, pasted in the year 1817, the
intention of Which not haring been carried into effect, he was
eifatims bring the matter before that House before the of-
Act should have been filled up. He then presented Petitions
fe am the Boronglif, of Irvine, Garra, and Kilmaritock, in Ayr-
sNre, alt praying 'for the restoration• to the Liturgy of her
Mitlesty's name. and her reinstatement in all her rights and
privileges.—Ordered to-be piloted.
Petitions were presented by
f▪
ir CH. COLE, from Swansea; and by
13Y IG, friim the Ship Owners of the port of London,
tha inhabitants of the, parish of Shoreditch, the Charch-
wrrdens of the
.parish of Sr. Betolph, the Lock-makers of
ITistiodsditch, the undersigned inhabitants of Hammersmith,
eeeet of Si. Matthew.
it. WILSON ruse to present a petition, monerously
by 3117 of a respect able'class of Artisans of this Me-
e.-epelis, the dressers of Spanish morocco leather.—(A laugh.)
—Gentlemen might laugh—they were but artisans, it was
true--they were poor ; hot they were loyal, aad paid their
teixese and they had as much right to he beard by petition in
ttiot House, as those who were represented by Aldermen, or
other equally dignified characters: The petitioners were
highly commendable for the tone in which their petition was
conceived. They entertained but one sentiment with respect
to-the conduct of the Met-ohm's of his Majesty's Government.
Tbey regarded, with detestation, the late proceedings against
the
;Queen. They considered that the oatission of her
mem: in the Liturgy was an outrage against all justice, cal-
cplated and designed to brand her name with infamy', that
she might he constrained to live in exile ; or, if she !liquid
return to this country, to operate to her prejudice, in public
ofsinion, that she might be presented at the bar of her
Judges as one already degraded. It was with feelings of re-
gret, that they had seen political malignity introduced into
those temples where religion- ought to have presided. The
Petitinnere stated that they prayed for the restoration of her
Majesty's name, not only teecanse it *as her right, not only
Lecause the law justified it, but because it was the only
means of restoring tranquillity, and in the words of the
telitiim, the only means by which the sword of civil dissen-
e'en could he restored to its scabbard, and the torch of civil
ciilciird extinguished. Ile (Sir B. Wilson) said, that if this
were not done, peace could nor be, and ought not tee be re-
stored. Althottgh he might be suspected of promoting
agitation and alrhonglihe might be privately charged with
such motives out uldnors,be. would maintein that the agita•
-ration which existed, ought not to subeide without this were
Ofe—if they did allow it—it would be the peace—not of free
ten—hid of slaves! No free Government could exist if the
'voice of the people were not to hare influence with ite--if
that wese not the case, hr would as soon live under the sway
Of a Sebeh of Persia or a Dry of Algiers: .as in this country.
-He did net coincide -with the tuaxiat which saiii—erquise-i-
MOM pacent, Gello justissimi), fintefermn. If anarchy was a
disease, tyronny was the death of a free State. He hoped
that when this question came to be disgust, d lo that House,
Hon. 'Members woul' spew -more attachment to their coin-
try, by tatting into consideration the state-it was In, than to
file places of his Majesty's Ministers.—The Petition was then
brought up, and ordered to be trrinted. The Hon. Gentle-
wan presented a similar Petition front the Inhabitants of
.13olton-le-Moor, in Lancashire, which was ordered to be
printed.
llr. WHITBREAD presented Petitions from the Operative
awyers of London and -tt estmlester, and front certain In-
habitants of the parish of Edmonton, praying for the restot a-
lion of her Majesty'a name to the Liturgy, &c.--Ordered to
j)e printed.
Mr. R. BAUTONT presented a similar Petition front several
tespect able' Clergym en, Gentry, arid Traders of Evesham, in
'orcestershlre. He trusted the prayer of the petition would
be attended to, ns be was convinced there was.no other mode
of satisfying the convulsed and agitated minds of the nation-.
Ordered to be printed.
The Marquess of TAVISTOM pr..ecrrtrA stikaitur
"irrxrf the Gerotemen, Freeholders, end Inhabitants of the
County of Bedford. The petition was signed by 2.sooTree-
Isellers-, who prayed for a Refor-m-tn the Hume; of Commune,
and deprecated the late proceedings against the Queen. Tht•
reeling, at which this petition was agreed upon w is-one of
the most numerous, respectable, and well-condocted :Issenl-
bilge! be hAei ever witnessed. It .might perhaps suit Mini-
tiers and others to stigmatize this county meeting as a farce.
It Was- very well for such -libellers to in holes and cor-
' hers, and utter libels against the people of England, who
were far more loyal than they, and less capable of betraying
-one confidence that might he ret.osed in them. Hr hoped
and trusted that if the present Ministers should remain in
_power, hev'would pause ere they confirmed in their-present
conrse,-to drive the nation to 'the utmost verge of despair--
that they would cease to stigmatize as blaephemous amt sedi-
tious those who had the audacity to oppose
.them, conduct
which was elisreputable, and not to 'lie:tolerated either in
private or life.—The petition was brought up, and
or,dered to be printed.
Mr. BERNALL presented similar Petitions from Rochester,
'and from the Perish elf St. Marylebone, W,stminstrr. The
latter Petition was signed by upwards of 7000 inhahilants, a
body of evidence in his opinion sufficient to show, that what
the Noble Lord opputrite.had stated, that his Majesty's Mini
seers ,p,neseesed the confidence of the country, was not cur;
*reel ; and instead of these meetings "wing farces or inter-
Wet, ore Only hoped they would not prove to be the serious
preeurotts of political tragedies.
Mr..IARVIA presented a similar Petition; signed by 10,000,
of the Inhabitants iif the ('eu Lit y of Harprchire. •
Sir W. PE CHESPIGNY said, t hatinivitig 1 een o cif the
pine; eel act ore in the " farce'. -he frit himself called npoit to
say a few words with respect to it.—f Laughter.) —lf the meet-
lii of this conntywas-tie be called a farce, other county meet-
ings might tie deonininated as comedies, or might lie traec-e
-It was not till he entered the' House that evetiing that
The had heard that Ibis reepectelde meeting bed been stigmae
lised in a moot erhltrary, doeunstitothmal manner, as a mob..
Aft aesumblies..he.sopposel, in a Short time would be,stig-
anatise.4 as mobs, except battalions of soldier; and sTradrons.
•of boric. Ile had great respect for great military talents,;
but from the mouth of any one, such a cetioney was disreei.
. seectfut to parliament and the country at large. They werei
not"meeting'on- the plains of -Waterloo,..nor German doe
srtioions underlhe inspection of the y. Those Gentle-,
_pen wten-bad dared' to laugh on the occesion, ought to statni
up 'noiost such tract fees. The meeting in eriestion was :14
numerously attended AS. it 'could be ; there were upwards of
.seven or eight thousand present. Malty attempts had hero
made to preveiat so numerous en assemtriege, and-in this at;
cum' the saute (he:Ole:mate, the'Seevetary -o the Pitt Chilt; tic
'0,714-veil, lA, had get lie the County Address, wos very etm-
epienivis. This Gestolenittn happened to be tinder Sheriff to
the Coenty, and ae it was generally seterseed be acted-with
the temeurrence i,t the High Sheriff, he obtained much in ire
than.tie.esvotti4 oelserwier have ,distie. se:lt:on these. Ore
eon:stances, he not help being a little warm, and
hr should have been ashamed eit himself if he had nut ttatcd
them.
Mr.. FLEMING said, thst as colleague to tit:elfin). Gentle-
man who bad Wu:luta in this Petition, he could not help say-
ing alew words. Ile certainly could ant support the senti-
- "rents of the Petition, and with respect to the meeting., at
which it was iigreed open, he teas bound in justice to the
county at large to soy, that tee greater pat t of-the rank, pro-
perty, and respectability of 'the Cotruty of Hampshire %sere
not present.
- Mr. WELLESLEY POLE hardly Isom in -what way he
Might. to treat the observations which had father from the
• Hon, flat unit on the otlier side (Sir William de Creepigtey).
hie hid some doubts as to whether the flOn. Berrinel'e
allu-
sioos fell within the orders of -that Hottse : bat as he was not
s'„pped by the Chair, it only remained for hint to make a few
ohservations'on then,. The Honioirable'Gentleman had,used.
very hard wurds—(Cries.of No,..aud.,Yes').—were not sen-
timents such as he had expressed with respect to another
Noble person.
The SPEAKER here interrupted the Hon.". Gent lemen, and.
reminded biro I lost he was not of order, The reason he had
not interrupted the Hon. Brirone't Was, that had not been
ahle to collect, from what had fallen 'from him, the pereun to
:whom he alluded.
Mr. WELLESLEY POLE hnped the Hon. Baronet would
eto him the justice to allow that le had not .inieconcei veil who
he had allotted to. He rhouelit the obsereatioos he had made
- tended-to etifirely-mi,represent tt at-indisidnat, and he was
;Wished, that it be had Lumen that high personage, be would

know that there Was r'o't a man in this country, nor in the
world, who had a higher respect for the liberties of the pot-
ple.—(Cheers.)—This smile and langli -might sit very well
upou lawyers and Givitlane, but he-thought... Till became those
who ought to know that Noble per situ better., ;1:1(1 the beneEt
they had dt•rived from hisseri'ices. He Was about to-say,
that the Honourable Batonetswas misinformo in what he had
stated, or allotted to.•7fle Was satisfied that his Noble Kola=
lion had it not in his contrniplaf ittt;lnitl that-treitid not tar
any thine at all disrespectful on the subject alluded to. Ile
did not sae one word about the freeholders of the County.....-
What his Noble Relation had siTaL-Ifflolistattee;wa-s;-that- tee-
emssidered an assemblage of a County, at which one side only
could be heard, was not a fair constitutional and regalia
county meeting. His Noble Relation had not perhaps weighed
every word before he uttered it, like a regular public speaker.
He had -tried the. word farce,"Andit had been takenadvan-
tage of by the opposite side. If he had :teen betrayed into any
warmth he beggetLto.apologize.(Hear
Sir WM. DE CRESPIGNY explained.
Mr. BARING did not wish-to • say one word expressive of
disrespect to a NiThie_ Person why had been alluded to. He
was sensible of the great obligation he, in common with the
whole country, owed to that Illustrious Commander—such as
they never -could'repay, and tie was "-extremely sorry that he
should have been tempted 16 use the expression he did in an
unguarded manner.—(Hear, bear, hear I.)—He bad, however,
stated, that the meeting in question was a tumultuous one.—
For a refutation of this he begged to refer to the Hon. Mem-
her for the County of -Hanyshire opposite (Mr. Fleming;
who had obtained a patient hearing from the beginning VI the
end of a speech not at all suited to the supposed sentiments
of Atte Meeting. If he could controul the "tuntultnous con-
duct of that assembly, it was more than, his opponents could
do with the uproar and cimfusion created fir the exclusive
loyalists of the City of. Loudon on a late occasion. •
Mr. FLEMING was sorry that any thing he should have
said on the occasion in question was provoking. He thought
the meeting was convene:l for public discussion, and what he
said lie believed to have been perfectly fair.
The petition Was then Lirought up and read, and ordered to
be printed. Several others were presented anti read at the
same time ; but front the low tone of voice in which the Un-
der Clerk read, it was impossible to distinguish in the Gal-
lery any one point connected with them.
Lord BELGRAVE presented a similar petition from
Chester, which, in addition to the prayers of the to hers aboye
noticed, prayed for an inquiry into the Niihau Commissiori.--,'--
Ordered to be printed.
Sir T. ACKLAND presented a similar petition front Dart-
mouth, with 1,250 signatures. Amongst 'these, the petition
set forth, there were one magistrate, 400 gentlemen and yeo-
men, 150 master nimmfacturers, •200 artisans,- and U or 700
ladies and respectaltle females—CA laugh.)—The petition
particularly complained that the •Petitioners were prevented
by the Administration of the country front offerittg up their
prayers for her Majesty in the face of the Church. and prayed
that her name might •be restored to the Liturgy, and•her Royal
Person guarded from all farther oppression.
Lord J. gussELL said, hr had been requested to support
the prayer of this Petition. He fully concurred in the wishes
of the -Petitioners, and he hoped, after that night's debate,
the Ministers would go down to-morrow morning for that pur-
pose, and that they would see the Queen's name inserted in
the Liturgy by Sunday, according to their advice.—The Pet.i•
Lion was then brought up, and ordered tube .printed.
Mr. BARING presented a similar Petition from Taunton.
Ordered to be printed.
Mr. KEITH DOUGLAS presented two Petitions to the
same effect ;.•one from , the Incorporated Trades of Dum-
fries-, and the other from the.Journeyinen of-the same place.
Mr. WM. SNIITII presented a Petition from Norwell, the
langunge of which he could vottch was perfectly proper, and
respectful-towards that Honourable House. It praytd for the
restoration of her Majesty's name to the Liturgy, &c. and for
a Reform of Parliament. It spolie.t he unbiassed, uninfluenced
sentiments of a.lar.ge class of the inhabitants of that city;
than whom,none were better known for talents, for integrity,
And he would say for education. It had acquired 4,500 signa-
tures in tour days; and these had been given without the et-
-ercise of the slightest influence, and caul): from -the sub-
scribers as the unbiassed sentiments of their, own hearts.
ADJOURNMENT.
On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE-
QUER it was agreed; that the House, at its rising, should
adjourn to Wednesday next.
COMMI*I TEE OF SUPPLY.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHF,QUER moved for a
Committee of the whole .House, upim rt motion of Sirpply.
Mr. CREEVY did not mean to object to the motion. nor
to detain the Houle long hi what he had to say. He' wished
merely to call the attention of the House-and the publPc to
the subject which was now before ..them.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said a few
words across the table, which we conid not collect.
Mr. C'REEP'Y could notconsider that he bad done his ditty,
if he had let the motion he made without pointing out to the
attention of thepublic even in this first' stage of the proceed-
ings., that the! louse were thus in the habit of voting hundreds
upon bundred•-, thousands optic timusands,and ruiljL4ns omot
the 10rt5i.....,,,,t7-0-iptstottreerte-trtrsiresoft !MT md•
ney having arty control over its expenditure. He called anen-
tion to the subject now, hecause.he had hOpe of the aPPtofich of
better times. The conctry has lately put itself in a noble
attitude, by its great and glorious exertions, by whicp it had
saved the Cloven, and given stability to the Crown. Ile
.hoped it would now turn itt attention ttrthe protection of the
public property in that !loose. He had heard certain tan•
guage.attributed to a Noble Doke in another Hottse, which
he knew not whether to believe or to discredit. %Whe-
ther it was true. or not, that that Noble Duke had ea!led
the meetings of the country a farce, he did not know ; but
if it was, true, be was sure the Sentiment had been picked
up .in the society of Kings and Emperors; it was a sentiment
wortbypf Troppatt.—(Hear, hear!)—He had no doubt that
the `Royal Politicianst here wonld'deem a comity meeting a
farce;,but for hint,, if he might recommend a real farce, it
should. be a Committee of Supply.—(A langb.)—lt was his
intention shortly to submit to the House a Measure alum this
subject. All he .‘eished at present was to turn the attention of
the House and of the Public to the Manner in which the Stip-
plieswere ,granted. He hoped that the Public would soon
nmke then) mend their manners, and call upon them for
some substantial prott'ction of their property. .
The. House then resolved itself int, a Committee of Supply,
and Certain sums fOr the use of tic Majesty were granted.—
The House tlten resurned,.and the.lleport was ordered to be
received on Wednesday next.
LANARK PETtTION.
Lord ARCHIBALD HAMILTON resented a Petition
front the town of Lairirk,..;praying for the restoration of her
Nl,-;jety's name. to tin... Liturgy, &c.—Ordered to he printed.
NIOTION TO .RESTORE gm: QUEEN'S NAME. TO
THE lURGT. _

Lord ARC:URALIOTA:HILTON was sure that Ire •
ikad never offered himself to the notice of .the
House when there was• more necessity for atten-"
don, both With-reference to the subject, and with -
reference ,to the individual whom it concerued.
It woui-d ,be superfluous in him, after the eaten-:
sive. number of P6titions _with whitth that Tablet
had :been deluged, to insist on the inherent inn. 4..
portance which 'attached to it, or• the deep inte
rest.whiCh.the public .at large .had taken in the
subject. He hoped that •the deficiency of that
individual who addressed'them would•be amply
made up by the: weight.of those Petitions, and
that the House would take them into considera-
tion along with what he.was going•to say. That
.it would consider also, not only what he•and the
petitioners asserted, but the : causes which had
thus operated to-call forth the expression of pub-
lic opinion. The first obvious impressions Which
the exclusion of her Majesty's mttne from
_the 1:).--
- turgy created; was' that extensive 'ferment and
irritation which had pervaded this unfortunate
country- ever since that' period--extending to
that. House, and preventing all attention to the
affairs of the country--spreading fronrone corner
of thP kingdom to the other,•and interfering with
the business--and pursuits of the inhabitants.
• Standing in that place as he 'did, and speaking
upon that subject .as he did, the Right Hon. Gen-
' titmen opposite, - and the others-of, their adlie-
rents tnie-,t,ht- think- that 'he had adopted this sub-
? .
ject with pa;ty views. Once for all, he would
protest against such att accusation ; and hu begged
the flouse to recollect. whether he' ad waited for
the expression of public- Opinion, before he . had.
declared' his own sentiments upon this unfortu-
-nate queStion. )Vbert "her 'Majesty
.was first in-
sulted, on her arrival in this .country, • and wheri
she was spoten• of in that 'circumlocutory an
gtiage by the Noble Lord opposite and -his Cu!-
'

leagtres, he diA himself standup -and assert her
rights, from motives entirely unconnected with
party feeling.. No man was more disposed to
view the question gravely and deliberately
than "he was ; but when the
,Noble Lord and
the Chancellor of the Exchequer came forward:
tosstate that it ought to be ccitikidered 14, a strictly
legal -,que,l4ion, he coulo4 not belp.trsl.Pig‘tbetn",
'whethi:7:_titaring the many months winch had
elapsed(since the exclusion of her Majesty's
name froth the Liturgy, they and their adherents
had viewed her case as a cool' legal question ?
Whether they had not, on the contrary, treated
her with every species of injustice and indignity?
Upon the grounds which he had --tated, be would
confidently say, that motives of party never
could be imputed to him in bringing forward this
motion.lle recollected that when the Hon. Member
for Bramber made his'motion, which occupied so
much of the time and attention of the House in
the last session, that he (Lord A. Hamilton) then
stood up to submit the same motion Which he
now intended to propose. And he would ven-
ture to ask, if his Amendment had at that time
been carried, whether that House, the Crown,
and. the Country, would not at that moment have
stood in a more favourable situation! He -re-
peated, that he did not enter into the subject
with party views, although he did not mean to
disclaim a fair and open hostility to the Right
Hon. Gentleman opposite. In' the ample discus-
sion which the exclusion of her Majesty's name

was likely to afford, he should consider it to be
a subject as much unconnected with the Crown
as any other subject which came regularly before
the Mouse ; for he conceived the constitutional
doctrine to he, that when any subject came under
debate in that House, they must trace its respon-
sibility to Ministers. Therefore, neither could it
be imputed to him that iu introducing his motion,
he meant any disrespect, r harboured any impro-
per feeling towards the Crown. He would first
observe, that he could not conceive it possible, and
he should be glad to hear the views of Ministers
upon those matters—it was not possible that her
Majesty could rest in this country with the mere
addition, as the Noble Lord seemed to declare,
of a pecuniary establishment. If nothing more
was clone to allay that irritation which had be-
come so general—ifnothing was done in the .way
of substantial justice to her Majesty, the CQUII-
try never would be restored to quiet. Was the
press, on both sides, to 'he allowed to continue
its violence? Ile was not for any measures which
would, restrict its liberty,'but he would take
away the cause of its excesses. Aud what was
their foundation ? If there was any one thing more
than another; for in that concatenation of causes
which had arisen out of the proceedings against-
her Majesty, it was not easy to- select one
worse than the rest. But if there" was one
more mischievous than any other, it. was the ex.:
elusion -of her name from the Liturgy. That
Was the unjust, impolitic, unconstitutional rea-
son to which he alluded. Therefore, if the House
did not think Ministers, wrong in the course
they had pursued, he would ask them what_
measures then had to propose, from which they
;eXpected the irritation of the country to cease,
and by which justice, so long denied to her
Majesty, would be at, last afforded to her. It
was his wish, after the notice given by Lis Noble
Ffiend (;he ,144rquia of Tavittock) to limit
if, possible, to the mere subject of the Li-
.turgy ; because, - in the _motion of his Noble
Friend, a. more ample opportunity would be of-,
.foaled of-quitering !moult the proceedings con-
nected with .iher Majesty's case. - .But itvas im-
possible to contemplate the consequences of-this
single act, anti not feel a degree•of warmth and
disgust very difficult-to -be distrained. - An act
which placed the whole of-the country in a fer-
ment of irritation—artact.So unjust towards her
Majesty; so mischievous—he knew of no term
which would sufficiently characterize the pro-
ceeding, as to pronounce it revolutiiinary. lie
was aware of no conduct of the Radicals either
in the House _(and sometimes there was vtoletice
there) or out of the House, which could compare
with the -revolutionary conduct of Ministers in.,
advising such proceedings. He should state 'the
grounds. upon which he .should call upon the
"louse ;to 'come -to a resolution that it was un-
wise, improper, and Inexpedient to omit her
Majesty's name from the Liturgy. And in order
to state these grounds„ he called upon the House
to consider well the situation in which her Ma-
jesty stood before her arrival in this country.
Because subsequent conduct, arising from a
just irritation, could not have a restrospective
-effect. The other night the. House had been told
-of what :her Majesty .had .since ,done-; there-
fore it was that lie called upon the House to di-
-vest themselves of such feelings. The Worthy
Alderman (Ileygate) deprecated the leaving out
her Majesty's name from the'Liturgy ; but he then'
called her Letters, herAddresses,and her Answers,-
pronounced them treasonable, and concluded that.
her• name should. knot he restored. -Then, he
-would ask,.-was not that trying her for one thing,
and puuishinK her- for- -another;----ftut-if-this
seqUent conduct of her "Majesty was to bye ap
plied,.then!he'ealled upon them to apply her
übsequent injuries and insults in extenuation.
.But.the .principle of this,—it was the principle
against which he contended. It- had- been mot
aptly compared to the practice of • the
; they laid the victim upon the rack, 'and
tool[ down 'the expressions of pain; as the con-
fosions of guilt.. SHe would proceed to examine
what was the situation of her- Majesty when her
name was struck -out of- the -Liturgy:, -Beni's&
he hoped that they would thitik -as he did,"that
the act was not only unjust, illegal, and uncon7
-situtional, but that it was perpetrated against a
person already wronged and-injured. What was
her situation ? Without a 'bowe, )iithout any sta-
tion in the country, without any reception abroad,
the very laws had deceived her, for as a' wife
she had no husband, she had no station in• ad-
dition to -all
.-which, she had left the- country
-With a fa.ll letter. of licence for any line -of con
duct she chose to adopt. Persecuted by spies,
and by every-thing in the shape or diplomatic
she met With no protector in 'the
quatter where she should have expected protec
tion,- and received -full- licence for' -hen conduct.
Would that House, ortny--other part cyl.• -the

country, eveft that ideal part called the State,
would apy one of to be shocked, under such
circum!tances, at any conduct, when she carried
a letter of licence iu her po-cket: If:411 with which
her Majesty was charged were true.; and he be-
lieved her to be innocent; but if all were true,
hKersecuted a.s.,,Oie had been by spiv, anal Fed
try, corritikt,stk,„ t i p(evjolis...6,pqc4A.•• -• ,
had been observed towards--her ought to have
prevented any unreasonable man from bringing
her to punishment. Had she not already under-
gone one charge in this country, from which she
had been acquitted ? Could any man, then, say
she had had fair play ? Ile would say, that she
had been the first person injured, and that she
had been provoked to the commission of crime, if
crime there was.--(Murmurs.)—ln venturing a
few observations upon the legal part of the case,
he would ask Ministers why her Majesty's name
had been excluded, and to that he would request
a plain answer. It was said that at the time
when the act was done, heavy charges were im-
,pending against her. Then, he asked, if those
heavy charges had not been proved, why continue
the exclusion ? And if they had been proved,
why not propose some judgment, or arraign her ?
But they had failed to prove any part of that
which had been brought forward to accomplish
her ruin. He had before hind the Order in
Council of the 12th of February, to which he
wished to call the attention of the House. 'lt set
out with stating, that by the Act of Uniformity,
the Council possessed the power of altering the
Prayers. He must deny that statement altoge-
ther. There was no provision whatever in the
Act by which they could make alteration in the
Prayers. It must be obvious to any Gentleman,
that an alteration in the Prayers meant an altera-
tion in the words ; the power of altering two or
three words, just the substance. But the Act
expressly said that the alteration was to be
of names, and not words. Therefore, he would
ask the Right HonOnrable Gentlemen oppo-
site, what authority they had in a legal point
of view, to alter not only worli, but whole
sentences. If was intended by the Act to
confer a pOwer or prerogative, why not express
it ? It was tint prayers which could be altered,
but names. He must also observe, that in the
section to which he alluded, for the alteration of
the Collects, it was directed " That the name be
altered and changed." Now the Order in Coun-
cil gave no strict direction,, no positive order to
that effect. Their sole authority was founded
upon the Actof Parliament of the 13th awl 1-ith
of Charles 11. Therefore their authority would
not stand, for 'he would say that that Act did
not give them such authority. He would ask to
what extent did they contend the Act gave them
authority ? Did it empower them to make such
changes for the satisfaction of mere caprice ?
,He should Think, judging from many other
events, that the intention was not to invest the
Crown with the power of exercising such caprice.
If such a doctrine were to be maietained in that
House, he thought in that House it would be
, destroyed. Was it ever contended,—could it be
-contended, that the Act gave authority not-only
for the exercise of this caprice, but also gave a
powertomake the Liturgy the medium of penal

degradation to the Queen ? This order was
meant as a degradation to the Queen, therefore
he asked if the Act gave them power po to alter
it for the purpose of that degradation ? Lf not,
.the House:would conclude NNith him, that in a
legal view his • Majesty's Ministers had been
wrong in excluding the Queen's name. He
'could not here Avoid stating, the Archbishop
of Canterbury must-
.have been unacquainted
with' these facts ; but his wonder was, that
the Lord Chancellor could have. presided at
a Council where such an order was decreed. It
might be presumptuous in him (Lord A.
Hamil-
ton) to question the legal decisions of the ',Ord
Chancellor and the Law Officers of the Crown;
but there
,was one thing which they had done
connected with this Order in Council, which was
at least nugatory. They bad sent into Scotland—,
to Scotland, where they had no jurisdiction!
Therefore he would. say, .and he was sure the

1...0rd Advocate would contradict him if he was
wrong, that in Scotland at least, the Order was
weak, ineffectual; and nugatory ; and had been
there what it ought to have been every where
else,. mere waste'paper. It *as not material to
notice the other _names attached to the Order;
but there was one connected with it, whose -con-

duct was so strange: that he could not help al-
luding to it. He meant the Right Hon. G. Canning.
It was at all times diFagreeable to say any thing
harsh of any Gentleman in his absence. But it
was his absence of which he had to complain.
Common report mentioned a difference to have
subsisted between that Right Honourable Gen-
tleman and his Colleagues upon the subject of

her Majesty's injuries. -Whether that report was
truelte could not sa.Y..' But if it was true, it

was not too much to expect him in his place to"
acknowledge that difference. If, as he confess'ed.
at the commencement of the proceedings, the of-:
teiftion and 'regard which- he had entertained for
her Majesty remained undiminished,—if he had
resigned from principle, as he wished it to bosup-
posed,,he ought now to havecOme forward and
have given her the benefit of that difference. He
..was at a loss'to know how to'reconcile that
lion. Gentleman's conduct. He had originally
countenanced the prosecution—he-had signed his
mule to the order for excluding her from the Li-
turgy----he had kept his place. throughout the
whole proceedings, and then from the discovery
of some peculiar differences of opinion had sepa-
rated from his colleagues. If he (Lord A. H.)
had retired :from dee, he should have given
her Majesty .the . benefit of that Opinion which
led him to diff4: r from her prosecutors., •But he did
contend, that retiring as. the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman had done, he, had left a doubt whether
he disagreed with his colleagues or not. His in-
tention now was to move that the order for the
exclusion of her Majesty's name from-the Liturgy
was-ill-advised and. inexpedient. But let it not
be considered: that he lithited his expectations
to that. No.- not only -required that Minis.
te' should receive censure from that House and
from the Country for having done wrong, but
that they should also have some -stimulus ,to do
right, and to reStote. her. Majesty to that station

which ikg her just right ; and though it was not

his intention to go • farther than the vote of cen-
sure at present, he wished to ask the Noble

Lord and his co:Heaves, as the proceedings iii
another place had rerminlet .d-- by a v 'y which
went 4,.l.i.itist her Maj sty, •ti tribs, ft oceed-
..
'tngs ..iire‘-kftv•Artlg a an(
tines\}:v t ifect
,se
\thb,y‘prolmshl to. give o that' roe e ng ?
• ~.

If they considered that vote to be a bona
fide verdict, why give it up ?• But if, on the
contrary, they did give it up, why continue in.
the punishment of her Majesty ? Why not re-
store her name at. once to the Liturgy ? He
thought,they were bound to know what effect Mi-

nisters meant to give to that verdict, if any ; and
when they did know, then how they meant to pro-
ceed to act upon it. Upon what principle were
the prayers of the people granted to Royal
Family ? Upon their Merits as individuals in pri.
rate life ?—No ; as being of the Royal. Family,
independent of any personal qualification. Must
comparisons now be mule. ? Must it be said, this
Member- is tit---another is unfit ?--Whatever
might be the effect there, itinust operate sensibly
upon the country. If Ministers ntoant to fix a
stigma upon the Royal Family; or upon any in-
dividual member of it. They talked of sedition
and irreligion in the land. Was there ally thing,
which went so completely to make an engine of
religion as 'their excluding firer Majesty's name
from the Litnigy berause she was the object of
their impotatiols ? When the Noble Lord said he
did -not intend any further proceeding.; against
her, the fact was that he could not produce any
other measure. Therefore, vt lien he was obliged
to give up because he had lost the power to proceed,
let him not take to himself the credit of forbear-
ance. There was one thing more, to which he
desired the attention of the 110n7,e more than to
any other circumstance. Ilan equivalent was to be
granted for, the sufferings and wrongs of tier Md-,
jesty, 'he called upon the 'House '.‘ly and dis-

pasionatelv to consider what would be the situ-
ation of the Queen of P.,ngland Henceforward.

To retleCt upon the effect which those papers,
Supposed to be. under the influence of Goverri-
went, must have, allowed to continue in their
present course ; if any poison supposed to curry
favour with the Ministry should be allowed tv
continue pouring out. the tarrent of calumny and
falselood-by which her ivlajesty was assailed,'
P. those things were aiiowed to remain in flit'
situation in which they now stood; what could
stop that which now deluged the country with
demoralization. Wa's this no evil ? And was there

to be no measure to counterbalance' or to prevent
it, but the allowance of which' the Noble Lord'
had spoken ? He hoped the House would not al
low this subject to occupy them through this yes-'
sion as the, last, to the exclusion of
.thoe-
tOpics, more particularly the distresses of the
country, which ought to come under their seri-
ous and immediate consideration. He was convin-
ced that the,Noble Lord and his colleagues did not.
advise the proceedings as a- sound measure;
it.was forced upon them, in consequence of some,
sinister.adyice given to the Crown. Therefore
they had evinced a base.servility ,in acceding t°
least a degree of servility whiCh eras
base:' fint;l. the House took tie'
matter into their own hands he would say, lit
the language of the C:dlant-aeneral behind hifui
discord .would contitittP to 'prevail througWfrut-
the • country-: The Noble Lord concluded by
moving,--
"'That the Order in Council of the of F brult
1520. which excluded the name of her >lajeAty.
Amelia U 17,4404 from the prayvrs of the flpPea"
to this. Huse to be a Inca stpe inexped,ot.".
Mr. DELIS said it bad not been his intention to
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have' taken any part in the debate, but for sorr‘,
expressions in the speech of his Noble Friend (IF
he might be so pertnitted to call him), which a-I-
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hided to a Rt. Hon. Friend of his now a hsent,which
appeared to hith to call upon some. friend of that
Right Hon. Gentleman's for 'explanation of hiS
conduct. His purpose in rising was to deprecate-
any stich course of proceeding, and to ask for lON
bearance from his friends on that side of the
Hollse, and induce them to refrain from replying
to any charge, or insinuation of eharge,agai"4
that-Right Hon. Centletylan.. Front the first
Right Hon. Friend'. had announced his &omit--
nation -to take' no part in the proceedings against
the. Queen. Froni the moment the Address °C
the House failed of its
,obiect he took no part.---7
Me *as absent abroad during the proceedings ill
tho. Lords, and he returned at the dose Of these
proceedings. The state of things then induce('
him to think that the conduct which he had lwre
lofore pursued was no longer compatible v•tsi
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the situation which he held: He therefore sur-
rendered his office, and haying thus purchasea
the right td,follow that line of conduct which he
conceived proper, he again absented himself' 1111-
til the ferment which at present existed had 'til)"
sided. He would make one observation with re-
•sPect to hiS.Right Hon.. Friend haviog coinch"
with Ministers in excluding hex name
from the .I..iturgy. The Right 'Hoe. Gentlenwl
had himself in 'a speech., which could hardly ye.t
be effaced froM the. remembrance of the House,
stated the reasons which appeared to hint to PI
tify that measure. He would not injure the
effect of that speech by repeating the reasons as"
signed to hirn,but would merelynbserye,that
'tiring froth Office he lia.d no wish towithdraW hintself
from any responsibility attaching to that We 0;
sure. With respect to the curiosity expresseu_
by the Noble Lord as, to the degree of diffe-
rence between that Right lion. Gentleman and
his Colleagues, he would beg him to satisfy
hint
self by waiting for that Right lien. Gentleruau'-
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return. Without any ‘breach of confidence he
might say, that •on all great-questions of police
he entirely agreed with his Colleagues: e
lion. Member recalled to the recbllection of the
House the 'satisfactory manner fit which Ml'.
Canning had repelled former charges when pre-
sented in a tangible shape, • and concluded with
Observing, ,that his conduct could noton the one
'hand be attributed to any attachment to office/
or ambition Of, popular 'fame on the other, but
could only be dictated by a conscientious regard
to , the duty. he owed to the illustrious Po'souS

concerned. • .
F.-ItowNs9N said, 116 had yielded,pre

cedence.. to-44 llon..Gentleinan who preceded.
because he vas willin, fora few moments