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SUN OFFICE, Seven o'Clock.

RAIL\yAy COMMIT FEES

(THIS DAY.)

DOUSE OF LORDS.
A LEDONIAN RAILWAY.
•
en. Lordships met in Committee to-day at eleven o'clock,
Lord Radnor in the chair, when the case of the
Cirrd.ISGOW, DUMMIES, AND CARLISLE

MINE,

was resumed.
Mr. Brown, of Greenock Mains, Ayrshire, was examined re-
specting the amount of mineral traffic and agricultural produce
that
might be expected to go along the line.
Mr. Girdwood, agent to Lord Eute, near Old Cumnock, Ayr-
shire, gave evidence similar in effect.
Mr. Barclay, manager of the Catrine cotton works, deposed as
to the amount of coals used at the manufactories at Catrine, and
the amount of traffic to and from Glasgow to the works, which he
represented to be very considerable; the particulars of this wit-
ness's evidence have already appeared.
to At this stage of the proceedings the CHAIRMAN said he wished
state, on behalf of the Committee, that they were satisfied that
the
evidence had made out the opening statement of Mr. Andrews
respecting the traffic through the route of the line, and also with
regard to the necessity of railway communication through that part
of the country.
iMr. ANDREWS was willing to accede to any arrangement founded
n the suggestion of the Nohie Chairman, but submitted that a
esolution should be come to embodying the opinion of the Com.
rnittee. He was quite willing to abandon his opposition to the
Caledonian line, providing the promoters of that line would agree
to Bive
up their opposition to the project for which he had the ho-
nour of appearing. ."
Mr. Tatear had no objection to any opinion that the Committee
Might express regarding the merits of the line for which his
Learned Friend appeared, providing the Caledonian Bill was pissed,
Wt,t he protested to being a party to any course that would bind
his clients from withholding their opposition to any Bill that the
other party might bring before Parliament next session. When the
Proper time came they would be prepared to show that the traffic
was not sufficient to warrant the construction of two lines, and that
the Caledonian was much the best line of the two.
Mr. AUSTIN WAS not satisfied with what his Learned Friend had
advanced. He was prepared to show that the Glasgow,
Dump •
nes, and Carlisle line was superior in every respect
to the Caledonian line. If he understood their Lordships
;,rig!t, it was their opinion that the district of country
tra
.r Carlisle, by Dumfries and Cumnock, to Kilmarnock, had
oin
rn
ffic
sufficient to warrant the construction of a line of rail-
way. If so, he considered it should be made by an independent
"InPaaY. He did not care a straw for the opinion of his Learned
Friend as to whether or no the traffic of the country
Would warrant the formation of such a line as he (Mr.
Austin) appeared for. It was the opinion of their
Lordships that he wanted, who were placed in their present exalted
position to guard the public interests and to adjudicate impar-
tial' y. Their opinion had been given, and if his Learned Friend
!as hot prepared to fall in with that opinion he (Mr. Austin),
'Mould their Lordships desire it, was prepared, to go on with the
evidence.
The CHAIRMAN intimated that he thought it would be as well for
Mr. Austin to go on with his evidence for rebutting the case of the
Caledonian line.
After some further conversation, their Lordships retired to
deliberate.
„ retrOn their return they intimated that the counsel for the Glasgow
ssu •
ies, and Carlisle line should go on with that portion of their
evidence that bore on the case of the Caledonian line.
Mr. William Crawford was next called and examined respecting
the feeling of the inhabitants of the county of Ayr, which he re-
presented to be universally in favour of the line by Dumfries.
rube.
ckßeid, of Kilmarnock, gave evidence about the traffic of Kil-
mo, which he represented at 600,0001. yearly. A great part
of that went southward.
l'itoirt.hJobstone, manager of the Glasgow and Ayr Railway, deposed
the
lute few
on'eathueGanlaci sgaowlso,as to that Company having guaranteed 4 per cent
ntuhelifrrioews,na.nd Carlisle Railway, and to work it in conjunction with
Mr. Laurie, of a place near Dumfries, was examined at some
length respecting the cattle traffic which it was presumed would
Pass along the line.
Mr. Christie, Mr. Miller, and other witnesses, gave evidence as
to the superiority of the general traffic of the line compared with
,sirival the Caledonian, when the Committee adjourned till eleven
othc ock tomorrow, counsel intimating to their Lordships that they
ought it would be possible for them to close their case by to.
Morrow evening.
The
Engineering evidence will be gone into the first thing in the
Incoming.

STANDING ORDERS COMIIITTE Z.
The Standing Orders Committee of the House of Lords re.as.
sembled this day, the Earl of Shaftesbury in the chair.
the he only Railway Bill called in, prior to our going to press, was

ZIOND ON AND BRIGHTON RAILWAY
(HORSHAM BRANCH) HILL,
Which passed the Standing Orders.
IIICX MANCHESTER AND BIRMINGHAM

(ASHTON BRANCH).
Passed through Committee, and the
1440TORESTER AND SHEFFIELD JUNC-
TION (ALTRINCHAIVI BRANCH).

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
GROUP A.
J.B r„47t1.3' after twelve o'clock the Chairman (Mr. Lascelles) and Sir
hillips entered the Committee-room, and
The
Rte he, CfIAIRMAN said that he had received a letter from Mr.
slating that he WAS confined to his bed. The business of
Committee could not proceed with only two members.
MERREWETHER thought the business might proceed with
we consent of parties.
The CHAIRMAN thought not.
A discussion ensued as to what course should now be taken.
The Ccrnmittee adjourned, with the understanding that if other
members were appointed in the place of Mr. Roche and Mr.
tad Geachy to-night, the Committee would meet to-morrow at
we've o'clock, and proceed to the consideration of the Minster
Red Deal line.

GROUP NN.
THE EPPING RAILWAY.
The Committee on the above group were to have met this
morning at twelve o'clock, but, in consequence of the absence of
three Members, from illness, the Committee did not sit, and it was
adjourned till to-morrow.

GROUP X.
DIRECT NORTHERN PROJECT.
Mr. Giles was the first witness called at the sitting of the Com-
mittee this day—ls an engineer. Is aware that, in consequence of
the Cambridge and Lincoln project, the whole of the line south
of Lincoln was abandoned, and part of that to the north also, to the
extent of about four miles and a half.

To Mr. Set geant WRANGHAM—There were two Bills; the first
took the whole of the line, and the second took the line, by the old
Plan, from the 124th mile, at Broxton, on to Lincoln, within four
miles and a half of it. From London to Broxholme the line was
Within the limit of deviation for a mile and a half, and that was
Parallel with another line so far.
Mr. Sergeant Wit/INGHAM objected to the plans and sections now
put in, inasmuch as they were not those originally deposited, but
totally diff, rent ones, and the datum line was also different.
The Committee retired to consider the objection, and on their
return raid they were of opinion that they did not con.
eider the plans and sections now before them the same
as those originally put in. But they wished to know
if Mr. Sergeant Wrangham contended that those plans and sections
Were not the same as those lodged in the Private Bill Office.
Mr. Sergeant WRANGRAM said they were, in so far as they affected
the differing of the three miles. A long argument followed, after
which the Committee retired to consider the objection.
On their return,
The CHAIRMAN was of opinion that they could not receive evi-
dence on plans and sections of a line or portions of a line, which
had not been deposited at the Private Rill-office ; but that, under
the peculiar circumstances of this case, the Committee did not feel
called on to exc'ude parole evidence of a general nature as to
the desirableness of extending the line from Burton to Lincoln.
Mr. Copeland, mill owner, of Lincoln, was then called, and he
said he conceived the Direct Northern the best line that could be
suggested for that part of the country ; and that it be most
desirable to keep up the Fosdyke navigation.
Mr. Wilkinson and Mr. Newton, under examination by Mr.
"MONTAGUE Small, severally deposed to the obstruction of the
Witham which the London and York line would cause. The
latter witness also mentioned the circumstance of the banks of the
Witham being at one time on fire for a distance of a mile and a
half, and of that river having frequently overflowed into the con.
tiguous country, both circumstances being attributed to the
banks being constructed of peat.
After the cross-examination of this witness had concluded, the
Committee adjourned.

DARTMOUTH ELECTION

(FROU OUR CORRESPONDENT.)

DARTMOUTH, JULY 2, 1845.
The nomination took place here this day. Two candidates
Were presented to the electors—Mr. George Moffatt, a Liberal
and Free-trader, who was defeated by the late Member, Mr.
Sumps, in the contest which took place about six months since,
and Mr. Henry Prinsep, a gentleman of Conservative
oVnions, and who, it was said, had held office in India,
where he had resided many years.
The town exhibited at an early hour all that excitement
and bustle usual on occasions of the kind. Bands of music
Paraded the town, and the colours of the different candidates
appeared in the hats and button-holes of their respective sup-
porters. The hustings were erected in a large open space at
the back of the Fish Market, the Conservatives occupying the
Western, and the Liberals the eastern wings, at the side of the
Mayer. The weather was as bad as bad could be ;
relents of rain descended as if to keep the multi-
tide cool, and prevent over-excitement. At twelve
(:)el°ck the committee and friends of Mr. Prinsep
arrived, and shortly afterwards the gentlemen who support his
°PPoneet, Mr. Moffatt, accompanied with very tasteful ban-
ners, bearing the mottoes" Moffatt, the Ballot and Extension
. . of the Suffrage," " Reform, Civil and Religious Liberty, and
the Vote by Ballot," " Moffatt, the Queen's Candidate, Free
Trade and No Monopoly," " The People, the Source of all
Power," &c. The absence of such paraphernalia among the
other party was thus strongly contrasted.
The Head Bailiff having by proclamation opened the Court,
ARTHUR BAYLY Harms, Esq ,proceeded to read the pre-
cept and the Bribery Act. Then, addressing the people, he
requested they would pay peaceable attention to each candidate
their movers and seconders, and hear them without inter-
ruption.

Sir HENRY SEALE, Bart., was received with mingled cheers
and hisses on rising to address the burgesses. He said that
when he had last the honour of addressing them, he little
thought they should again so soon have been commanded to
assemble there. lie little thought the Almighty Dispenser of
human events would so soon have shown the uncertainty of
"man life, and made manifest the Scripture say;ug, " In
the midst of life we are in death."—(Cheers.) He felt
unequal to address them, but never in the least had he
shrunk from his duty.—( Cries of " 'tear, hear.") lie
therefore, claim their indulgence during the short time he
would detain them. During his late stay in London he had
requen ly the pleasure of seeing the late Mr. Somes, and he
Was bcand to state that he called on him at his (Mr. Somes')
tequ" t, when he (Mr. Somes) expressed his honourable in-
te,n ion of carrying out his pledge of watching to the utmost
1a interest of that borough.—( Loud cheers.) The subject of
e conversation was railway communication to Dartmouth,
and also the packet question. He (Sir Henry) had pleasure
b mentioning this, and paying his respect to the memory of their
Member. He must pass, however, from that to the
1141/10et of the future representation, He would only mention