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The Committee, c insisting of Mr. Evans (Chairman), Mr. New.
degate, Mr. Mont; and Mr. 'Miles, sat at twelve o'clock, in the
Guildhall, Westminster.

Mr. ilmovsan opened the case for the promoters of the above
Bill, and proceeded to refer to the importance of Barrhead and
Neilston as a manufacturing district, and to the facilities which the
proposed railway would give to the manufacturers there, in their
transit to Glasgow. The total length of the railway was somewhat
above eight miles, and the estimate fcr its construction was
14';.',00:)/. The promoters, conscious that an established main line
c.ild more efficiently work out a short line, like the present,
had entered into an agreement with the Greenock Company to lease
it at a yearly sum of 7,5001., which would give on the sunk
capital, a dividend of eight per cent. The gradients were very
favourable, the steepest on the distance of six miles being only 1 in
100, which in the remaining distance there was another of 1 in 74,
but that was unimportant if they considered the nature of the traffic.
The curves were also favourable, and the landlords on the line,
were to a man, anxious to promote it. The Learned Counsel
then went at great length into the nature of the
agreement between the Paisley and Ardrossan Canal,
and the Glasgow and Paisley Railway Company, in which the
former undertook not to carry passengers, thereby sacrificing a
trade of 400,0001. a year, they, in return being allowed to carry
all the goods traffic between Glasgow and the Paisley district ;
and be contended, that this was all agreement which threw into
the shade the public interest, and that, therefore, another Com-
pany who came forward on public grounds, had a fair right to be
supported by Parliament in their patriotic endeavours. He should
bring proof in support of his allegations, and having done so, he
trusted that the Honourable Committee would feel it their
duty to support this Bill, as the best which could be adopted
for giving public facilities to this important district.
(LEFT SITTING.)

GROUP K.
ITOZT,WXCH

This Committee resumed to-day at the usual hour, the Mem..
berg present being Viscount Sandon (Chairman), and Messrs.
Martin, Cobden, and Ricardo. Sir Benjamin Hall, Bart., has
been prevented from attending since he met the late severe ac-
cident.

Dlr. ALEXANDER, Q.C., applied to the Committee to withhold
its formal negative of the But y and Thetford branch of the Nor-
wich and Brandon line, which course was intimated on Friday
last, until they had heard the case of the Bury and Cambridge
line, to be proceeded with on Wednesday next. The Learned
Counsel contended that the evidence then adduced would mate-
rially affect the decis on of the Committee, and he merely suggested
the postponement fur the better furtherance of justice.
The CHAIRMAN, after some slight hesitation, acceded to the ap-
plication.

Mr. COPPOCK, the solicitor attending on. behalf of the in.
habitants of Norwich, previous to the Committee discussing the
clauses of the Norwich and D, ieham Mil, applied for a week's
postponement, to enable the curporation to meet and consider their
course.

The Committee, considering the delay useless, proceeded to the
discussion of the clauses, several of which were passed without
opposition,

(LEFT SITTING.)

GROUP L.

ORIPSIVEOUT .4..17..8-10SP Z. 137313.
The Committee resumed their inquiry on this line this morning,
Mr. E. B. Denison in the chair, with Lord Clive, Mr. Oswald, Mr.
Vyrian, and Mr. Monckten 21ilnes present.
11l the course of his examination by Mr. GURNEY, Q C., Mr.
Bidder, surveyor, stated that he objecte4 to the means for pro-
viding for the crossings at the level, inasmuch as they were to be
efThcted by a mechanical contrivance which everybody knew was
likely to get cut of order, instead of by the agency of persons living
OH the spot. The difficulty would, of course, be increased by the
great traffic to Epsom on particular occasions, The ruling gradient
was that at New-cross, which was 1 in 100, where about 600
people en hoer were all that could be carried, unless they doubled
the line. At the present, they could only take about 400 per
train, with three trains per hour—that was, 1,200 an hour, when
they ought to run trains at least every ten minutes, each carrying
1,000 passengers. He was decidedly of opinion that the Directors
would have to double their line between Landon and Epsom.
With regard to the expenses, he calculated the permanent way at
4,8401. per mile ; engines, 2,0304 ; tanks, 2001. ; patent right,
5001. ; pointy, crossings, and valves, :150/.; wells, 500; contingent
expenses, 6001., making a total for the permanent way of 9,3201.
The working expenses would be 6001., exclusive of interest, while
on the locomotive line the cost would be no more than 547/., inclu-
sive of interest.

To Mr. itavverersoe Mr. Bidde.r replied that he had arrived at
his conclusions respecting the 6001. a year from the,Blackwall
Railway, while Mr. Stephenson got to his conclusions by the work.
log of the Camden Town engine. The Blackwell Railway Com-
pany paid
3001. a year for water, and had been at an expense of
6,000/. or 7,000/. for forming tanks. No one could fail being
gratified with the first sight of the atmospheric principle, but it was
exceedingly ed caplandum, and for a long line he thought it secs
unsuited. He had indeed been anxious to apply Mr. Samudir's
principle to a line of his of miles in length, leading to the
Thames, but Mr. Samuda had rot acceded to his prepositioh,
though the Blackwell engines might have been u5,..11 in the project.
The largest engines could carry on a locomotive line about 600 or
700 people by one train, and he thought that the trains might
be started as fast as they could be tilled. in the Greenwich line
they had carried snore than 39,0 e:.; persons in one day. But he
did not believe that the atm,
..pheric line could start a train every
:en minutes, so that
which the publ,
required.
e accommodation could not be yielded by it
To the ;c-examination of Mr. GURNEY, lift. Didder stated that
he Nor started without any prejudice against the atmospheric prin-
ciple—on the contrary he greatly admired it ; but he fused that
its application could net be so general as he desired.
Mr. Hawkesley, engineer to the Nottingham gas and water.
works, stated that he had keen under the necessity of paying great
artention to the passage of fluids through tubes. His experiments
had been applied to gas, water, and air, and they had been ap-
plied pariteutarly at Birmingham. His formula had been applied
by M.e. Low, who had written to him to ask what qtrantitY
wr-ala be delivered from Peter-street at Charing-cross,
through a tube of 18 inches in diameter, and he had stated that the
quantity would be 60,000 feet in an hour. The result perfectly
coincided with the supposition. He had tried the same principle
a (Versailles, and several places In England, mops pVeys at Not-
tingham, through a tube two miles in length, Attain plahea in dia.
eater; and at rfdintryrsh, through a title off me mac in 1004
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fifteen inchei in diameter. There was, in fact, no such thing as
Suction. That had been known ever since the Tollichlian expe.
riment, which took place 200 years ago. In fact, what was called
12tisZar was neither more not less than the impulse put upon an
intermediate body, having a proportionably rarified atmosphere
before it, from the impulse put upon It by the denser substance
behind. There was certainly friction in the passing of air through
a tube, partly arising from impact, which was ai the sqiiare of the
velocity,and partly froni the rumbling of the piirtieles among thkrti-
Fetvbk which was sitiple. Thus, stippositig the pressure to be hi.
breased tenfold, the friction would be increased one hundred-fold,
and the rumbling tenfold. The train could consequently move no
faster than the air, and the greatest weight proposed by the pro-
moters Could not be carried up a plane of 1 in 100 faster than
thirty miles an hour; or up a plane of I in 'BO faster than twenty..
three miles an hour. its formula had been put in by Mr. bidder.
In the cross-examination of Mr. AUSTIN, Mr. Hawkesley re.
plied that his formulas were almost absolutely correct with respect
to large tubes, although he had omitted the rolling friction, be.
cause .ts effects were so minute that it had no presentable effect on
the result. He had made more than two hundred experiments
through tubes of an inch, of an inch, and of an inch. There
was no difference detween blowing air through a tube and drawing
it away by an air-pump. The rates which he had drawn
the gases through were immaterial, and he thought the instance
he had given in the case of the pipe of eighteen inches safficient for
a rule for all the cases which could be supposed. He had frit('
the experiments from the very slowest to the very quickest vilo •
cities, and through tubes of from one inch long to 100,000 inches.
He had tried it with a pressure of 4i inches of water, which was
equal to one inch of mercury. The speed of fifteen miles an hour
would be equal to five inches from the barander through a three-
mile tube, and everything remains the same through a tube half
the length; the pressure remaining the same the speed would be
44 miles an hour. The leat.age would account ter the diffe-
rence, and the train would stop at the point where the
leakage would balance the pressure of the atmosphere, but
at that distance he could not exactly say, but could calculate if the
plane, tube, and pressure were given to him. His results had been
formed by equation, and were confirmed by ascertaining that the
constants given by theory had been confirmed by more than a
thousand experiments, and among others, upon many of Mr.
Samuda's own premises. He had no doubt whatever that increasing
the tube from one and a half mile to three miles in length would
greatly reduce the mean velocity. In fact, the friction would be
increased, and that which was called suction was neither more nor
less than the abstraction of a quantity of air near the engine, the
space being occupied by a more rarified atmosphere, that which
was nearest the engine being driven forward by the denser medium
behind. In fact, it was nothing more than blowing.
To Mr. OSWALD—The witness replied that, in the event of the
disabling of one pair of engines, those at six miles' distance, the
next engines, would be useless, for he found by experiment that at
the end of seven miles the initial force would be only two and a
half miles, so that at a little further distance, the engines would
only be able to pump out the leakage, and they might go on for
evet lasting, just neutralising the force of the air one way or the
other, without moving the train a single inch.
Mr. Harrison, engineer, WAS examined by Mr. SMITH, and ex-
pressed his opinion that the atmospheric principle could not be
efficiently worked. He had himself been delayed twenty minutes
the other day at the Euston-square station in consequence of soma
derangement of the stationary engine. Some third-class trains
might take 500 passengers at once, and he did not think that that
number in third-class carriages would exceed fifty tons. In all
his assumptions of the third-class passengers, he thought that the
tube might be 18 inches. He had been engineer to the Newcastle
and Darlington, and two other railways, and was decidedly of opi-
nion that the gradients could not be surmounted as represented,
and if there were a delay the early hours of the day it would
affect every other train during the day.
This concluded the evidence against the atmospheric principle,
(LEFT SITTING.)

GRU LIP LL.

THE 7,aOB,TDOZZ AND SOUIVII..V.IESTninV

EXTMINSION.
The Committee met at twelve o'clock, Lord John Manners in
the chair. The other members of the Committee were Sir T. Es.
monde, Sir John Trollope, and Mr. E. Heneage.
The clauses of the above Bill were gone through seriatim and
agreed upon. The Bill was recommitted and ordered to be re.
ported.

THE LONDON AND RIGUTON Mk:MUTAT
(W.3.NDSNITORTIE 13RANC11).
Mr. HILL, Q. C., with Messrs. Gurney and Mellor, ap-
peared in support of this Bill. He appeared on behalf of the Lon-
don and Brighton Railway Company, whose object was to form a
branch from their railway near Croydon, extending to Wandsworth,
where they would make one of their termini. The length of this
branch would be six miles and a half and 8 chains.

TN, LONDON, MONDAI EVENING, JUNE 23, 1845.

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RAIL WAY COMMIT TEES.
(SATURDAY.)

HOUSE OF COMMONS:
GROUP X.
CramintaGE AND aranvccam RAILWAY.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition of Saturday.)
Mr. Parkes was asked a few questions in mosa.cxamination, but
his testimony in no way differed from the examination in chief,
and When it had concluded the Committee adjourned to Monday.

NAVAL INTELLIGENCE.
Po RI'S MOUT H FRIDAY.-The earysfort, 26, Captain the
Right Hon. Lord George Paulet, was towed into harbour
this morning by the Echo tug, to be dismantled and paid off,
hating been in commission nearly four years. She appears
very clean and in excellent order.
The Falmouth, naval lighter, arrived yesterday from the
river depots with victualling stores.
The Viper, 3, Lieutenant-Commander Carter, was in lat.
miles N. of the Equator, low. 27 17 W., on the 7th of
April. An extract from her log at the above date say, .
We heard a sudden rumbling noise, as of distant thunder,
which was immediately followed by a shock, causing a tre-
mulous motion throughout the ship, similar to that felt by
letting go the anchor in deep water; tried soundings—no
bottom."
The Netley, tender, sailed yesterday for Devonport, taking
supernumerary seamen for the vessels fitting there.
All the victualling lighters at the port are daily employed in
conveying provisions and stores to the experimental squadron.
In Harbour.—Tbe Victory, Hibernia, the Royal Yacht.
Excellent, Resistance, Carysfort, Siren, Nautilus, Diligence,
transport ; Comet, Fearless, and Echo, step.m. vessels.
In the Basin. —The Athol.
In Dock.—The Prince Regent, Trincomalee, Amphitrite,
and Centaur steam-frigate (building).
At Spithead.—The St. Vincent, 'Trafalgar, Queen, Rodney,
Albion, Canopus, Vanguard, Superb, and Vernon.
DEVONPORT. —The Caliope, 26, was undocked on Monday,
and masted on Tuesday. She is expected to hoist the pendant
daily.

The Nirnrol, 20, was docked on Monday, to be examined
prior to recommission.

The Hecate steam sloop, Commander West, was docked on
Tuesday to have her bottom cleaned, and to be coppered, ac-
cording to the regulation for ships proceeding to the African
station ; having completed which, she was undocked on Wed-
nesday, and went into the Sound.

The Bloodhound, new steam-vessel, was docked on Thurs-
day, to complete fittings for service.
The Vulture, first-class steam-frigate, Captain 11I'Dougali,
was towed into harbour from the Sound on Tuesday, to repair
some defects, which she completed on Wednesday ; when,
after having been mustered and inspected, she was paid the
usual advance of wages, and was to have left 3 esterday for the
China station, to join the squadron under Rear-Admiral Sir
Thomas Cochrane, Commapder.in-Chief. Captain Hope
Johnstone takes passage in her to join the Agincourt flag-ship.
The Herald, 26. Captain Kellett, and the Pandora, 6 Lieu-
tenant-Commander Wood, were expected to sail yesterday from
Barepool fir their destination.

CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT.
OLD COURT.

Ann Poulton, aged 30, was indicted for the wilful mur-
der of her fcniale child, of which the had recently been
delivered.
Mr. Doane defended the prisoner.
Mr. Crouch, a surgeon, was first called, and stated that
on the 2d of May he was called in to 19, Hanway-street,
to attend the prisoner. She had a child in her trees,
which was recently born ; it wa, alive. He saw no marks
4;n the child. He saw the child again in about an hour,
and again in two hours. It had been washed. He saw
marks on the right temple and eye. His opinion was
that they arose from violence, and not is the course of
the birth. He saw the child again in an hour, when it
was in a dying state. He made no post mortem examina-
tion. The child lost a great deal of blood from the nose
and mouth, which he considered to be the cause of
death. The bleeding no doubt arose from the same vio-
lence which produced the marks on the temple and eye.
Cross-examined—The marks might have been pro-
duced by a fall.
Mr. Hinde, also a surgeon, proved that he made a
pas-t inc./ tent examination of the child on the 10th of May.
It was a full-grown child. There were two marks on

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the side of the neck, corresponding in size with marks
which could be produced by fingers. There was a similar
mark by the right eye. There was dry blood on the face,
which had come from the nose and mouth. On raising
the scalp he found a good deal of extravasated blood, and
also that the parietal bone of the skull had been broken,
and several parts were detached. There was also a
fracture of the frontal bone. These injuries were the
cause of death. A fall might have occasioned those in-
juries on the skull.
Diana Hugo, a widow,
_proved that on the 2d of May
she went to work at 19, Hanway-street, at half past six
,in the morning. She found the kitchen stained all over
with blood. The prisoner was servant there. Witness
called her several times. She came at length and said
she was very ill. Witness went up stairs when she had
cleaned the kitchen, and begged her mistress to come
down. Witness had previously accused the prisoner of
teeing in the family way, which she denied. Witness
tif.erivards found a child in the coal -hole. She was first
induced to go there by hearing it cry. She took it and
placed it before the fire. Afterwards she put the prisoner
to bed and placed the child with her. It died the same
day, and was conveyed to the Marylebone workhouse.
By a Juryman—Saw no marks, except a- swelling of
the eye, when she first took up the child.
Mrs. Ireland, of 19, Hanway-street, stated that the
prisoner had been in her service three months. She ob-
served that she was in the family way, but did not speak
to her about it. On Mrs. Hugo ceiling on her on the 2:1
of May, she accused the prisoner of having been deli-
vered of a child, which she denied.
Henry Fowler, a policeman, proved that he removed
the body of the child to the workhouse, and that he ac-
cused the prisoner of inflicting the injuries which Caused
the death. She told him she had fallen down s L.,irs a few
days before, and that was the came of them.

Cross-exainiued—He asked her the questions about
ie violence of his own accord. It was soon after she
as delivered.

Mr. Justice PATTESON told the constable that he had
' ' t to ask a woman questions when she was in such

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a state,

The prisoner's defence before the magistrates was,
that she was not aware she was going to be confined so
soon, or she would have left ber place before and bad
proper assistance. She had let the child fall in the coal-
cellar while in her agony.
Mr. Justice PATTESON here stopped the case, and
said there was no evidence to support the charge of
murder, for the surgeons had stated that it was very
probable the injuries bad arisen from a fall.
The jury immediately returned a verdict of Not
Guilty, and the prisoner was discharged after receiving
a caution from his Lordship to be more careful in future.

POLICE INTELLIGENCE.
(SATURDAY.)
William Leonard and John O'Brien were brought be-
fore the Lord Mayor, charged upon suspicion of having
caused an explosion of gas in the house of Mrs. Ellen
Reenig, who keeps the Black Vorse in Petticoat-lane.
Mrs. Reenig stated that the prisoners came into the
bar of her house, and having called for beer, requested
that the gas might be lighted in the bar parlour. This
she refused, because they had a woman with them. While
they were drinking the beer, her children came into the
tap-room, and began to play there, when they were
abused by the prisoners, who said to her it would not be
long before she and they were annoyed a good deal more.
After the house was shut up, she smelt a strong
escape of gas, and took a candle into the tap-room
to see what was the matter with the gas-pipe.
Upon her entering the room a loud explosion took place,
and she was very seriously injured by it ; part of her
dress was set on fire, and she bad ever since bean in an
hospital under medical treatment. No one, she- was
certain, had entered the house but the prisoners, and the
female with them, after the time when she saw that the
gas was in its proper place. The pipe had been remeyed
when the explosion took place. Witness had no quarrel
with the prisoners, but O'Brien was an intimate ac-
quaintance of a man who had lately been held to bail for,,
repeated threats towards her.
The MAGISTRATE t aid he regretted it was not in his
power to punish the prisoners as they deserved, be would
therefore commit them to take their trial.
MA RYLEB 0111 E.
Mr. Joshua Rose Anderson, the brother. in law of
Madame Vestris, attended to prefer the following charge
against a young man, named Samuel Richardson, living
with his sister, a fishmonger, in Lisson•grove
complainant said that as he left his house that morning
he was accosted by the defendant, who asked him his
name, and then said, "You are no better than a thief
and a swindler." This was on account of his owing the
defendant a bill he had sent in, but which complainant
said required alteration. Defendant then renewed his
abuse, and threaVned to throw a large stone at him.

Complainant then gave defendant into custody.
The defendant, in answer, said he had callul fifty or
sixty times upon complainant for payment of a bill,
which amountaa to 21. 175., due to his sister. He had
always been told Mr. Anderson was out He had
waited for him, and, having been refused his money, be
told him his conduct was nothing short of swindling,
upon which complainant abused him, and threatened to
break his neck. It was then that defendant took up a
stone in self-defence. People were continually after him
for money, but he would pay no one.—;leiendant was
fined 205., which he paid.
A young woman, living as nursery maid in the service
of Mr. Anderson, applied for and obtained a warrant
against her master, who, she alleged, had, on the pre-
vious night, violently assaulted her, and attempted to
throw her over the bannisters. -
LAMBETH.

Mr. William Hewett, the private secretary to Mr.
Fergus O'Connor, was charged before Mr. Henry by Mr.
Bellamy, the relieving officer of Lambeth, with refusing
to support his wife. It appeared that the defendant was
living separate from his wife, that he allowed her two
shillings per week to support herself, that she had lately
been in a bad state of health, and the pittance allowed by
her husband was inadequate to her support. She had,
therefore, applied to the parish, and had been relieved
to the extent of 175., that the defendant was in the re-
ceipt of 11. per week, and was living with another female
in a lodging, for which he paid 63. 6d. a week.
Mr. HENRY said that the defendant must repay the
parish what had been expended for the support of his
wife, and must make her an. increased allowance for her
support—the case to stand over for this purpose.

FATAL PUBLIC-HOUSE FIGHT.— On Saturday night
last information was given at the Tower.strect, or L division Police.
station, to Mr. Inspector Ferguson, that a man named Boxhall
had died that evening from bruises received in a fight. It appears
that the deceased and another man had met one morning last week
at the Rose and Crown public.house, Westmin,ter.road, when, not.
withstanding the earnest remonstrances of the landlady and land-
lord, they had a desperate fight. The deceased became insensible,
and was removed to his lodging, where medical aid was in attend-
ance on him, but he died on Saturday last. Inspector Ferguson
sent a letter.to the Coroper, Mr. W. Carter, for an inquest on
the may.