The Sun.
London, England, 1821-06-19 00:00:00

who took pains to examine 'inhere reductions
might be made, and pointed them out to the
House, was deserving of its thanks. The Noble
Lord had, however, upon three or four occasions,
thought proper to catechise him in that House.
But he would tell the Noble Lord that not all
the blood of the Fitzwilliams put together should
make him alter his opinion, or prevent him from
keeping a strait forward course when he believed
himself to be doing that which was right. In
the whole of the Noble Lord's speech he seemed
to he struggling. between his good wishes to the
landed and to the manufacturing interests. First
he was speaking of his attachment to the one and
then going back to the other, so as to have the
greatest difficulty in appearing to keep a proper
ba'ance. With respect to the repeal of 'the Tax
he believed that it would be_ productive of the
greatest advantage to the country, and therefore
he had given it his support.
.I\lr. LOCKHART thought, the repeal of the tax
would be attended with very consideralile bene-
fits to the fanner. If he had considered it a
mere, fractional reduction, he should not have
thought it ,worth aCceptance. 'He was not there-
fore one who was Likely to come forward at any
future time to say that
,no boon had been granted
to the agricultural interests.
Mr. CRIPPS congratulated the House upon the
repeatof the Tax. lie wished to know whether
the repeal was to take .place immediately, or next
year. The Supplies having been granted, he
thought it would c.o.itainlyle unfair to call for a
reduction of the ,Tax at present.' He supposed

that it must take place from the sth of April next.
Mr. PEEL, must beg leav,e to dissent from the
general tone of congratulation which seemed to
prevail upon the repeal of this tax. He believed
that it would have been for the good of all in-
terests that it should have remained, and he
should therefore have been prepared to vote in
its support. He did not believe that the real
permanent and effective interests of the country
could be relieved by any measure tending to
operate against the public credit, and that parti-
cularly at a time when great exertions were mak-
ing to restore the ancient currency of ther-ealm.
—(llear.)—He must say that he sho)aid have
felt himself bound in consistency, after voting
for the estimates, to have supported the taxes
by which they were to have been realized.—
(Hear.)
Sir C. BURRELL expressed his surprise that the
Right Hon. Gentleman who spoke last should
come down to the House to oppose the Bill upon
'the present occasion, without having heard any
of the arguments for or against it upon the pre-
vious debate.

Mr. PEEL explained. He had never before
heard that the passing of a measure one stage
was a final decision upon it, which prevented any
Member from expressing his sentiments upon
it at any subsequent stage.--(Loud cries of
" Hear !")—He thought he had delivered his
-sentiments to the House in as temperate la►►guage,
and in as few words as possible, and he was
therefore at a loss to know the cause of the Hon.
Baronet's remarks.—(Hear, hear!)
Mr. GRENFELL was at a loss to know by what
means the Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer meant to fill up the deficiency occasion-
ed by the repeal of this tax. One method sug-
gested itself to some persons, which would he
one of very great injustice, namely, the applica-
tion of all the reductions to be made in the
course of the approaching year. Another was to
reduce the amount from, the Sinking Fund. lie
wished to ask whether the repeal of the tax
would have the effect of reducing the sum laid
out in stock for the reduction of the National
Debt?

Sir JOHN NEWPORT thought the question to be
unnecessary, as the advanced state of the Session
would render any other way of clearing the deli-
,ciency quite impossible.
Mr. GRENFELL was anxious to hear from the
Right Honourable Gentleman the nature of his
intentions.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that
he understood the question of the lion. Gentle-
man to be, whether the amount of the tax would
.be taken from the sums employed in the purchase
of stock by the Commissioners for the reduction
of the National Debt ? He should answer, cer-
tainly not. In the first place, because the re-
Auction would be made from the Consolidated
Fund in the gross, and not from the particular
fund to which the Hon. Member alluded. And
in the next place, because the deficiency would
for the most part not be created in the revenue
of the present year. (The Right Honourable
Gentleman then made some observations upon
the Bill, which were for the most part inaudible
in the Gallery.) He stated some reasons why it
would be inconvenient to commence the repeal
from any but the spring quarter. It should be
dated from the sth of April either in one year or
the other.' Undoubtedly if he was to choose, he
should say the 56'of April 1822. The Right
lion. Gentleman then alluded to the operation of
the Bill with regard to persons who had com-
pounded for their horse taxes, and to those small
farmers in whose favour a Bill had been passed
during, the Session, exempting them from the
duties on husbandry horses. Clauses must of
necessity be introduced to provide for these cir-
cumstances.

Mr. CURWEN said that it had always been his
intention to date the repeal from April last. He
thought he could answer the difficulties raised by
the Right lion. the Chancellor of the Exchequer
by proposing to make. a new 'assessment of the
agricultural horses, by which means all persons
would be enabled to make proper returns. That
be thought would be a complete remedy for all
,the objections of the Right Hon. Gentleman.
hire thought that the.. satisfaction of the country
at the tone and spirit with which the Noble
Marquis had met the question would be con-
siderably damped if the measure were not carried
into immediate operation.

Colonel WOOD expressed his hope that the cases of those
-persons whom he had previously mentioned would be considered
in the Bill.

The Marquess of LONDONDERRY, in a tone of voice
.not generally audible, expressed his doubt of the practicability
of having an extra assessment made. He thought that a Par-
liamentary principle would' be involved in it, which it would lie
,better to avoid.
11r. CuRWEN•and Mr. SCAILLETT said a few words, which