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-',...Attliete Wit strrostruilstt its wee Intro that malt difference did not
sr ;e* from any want of feeling. ,
Thai Earl of LIVERPOOL felt himself called upon not only
by the epeeeh of the Nobte Marquis, but by the importance of
the subject itself, to 'state his views and those of his Majesty's
Ministers to the House. He did not wonder *thsiappeal of the
Noble Lord, but he trusted .that that Noble Lai-ter:Mg give
lim credit for-feelingwitslommon with every man in the House,
for the unfortutialp Otte in which some of the manufacturing dig-
tsiOlsWere•pliced. 'No one could read the acconnte which were
• : ree'eired without being appalled at the distress which prevailed,
. :and'. experiencing)* • deepest • regret as ,to .the 'puree of those
seffeiings. With respell ',to the remedies to be supplied, the
enhject deserved the most serious attention. If I'arliainent were
to interfer,e, it would be the first instance, excepting the case
of Ireland, in which public money should 'have been voted for
relieving inch liiitressee. It -might be more advisable and effec-
tive to take.fulvatithge of .the existing system of the Poor*Laws,
fee through it relief• might be edministered without coming di-
: .....ortlitY :914 of the. public purse. If money wore voted in one
~,:inetture, he conjured their Lordships to consider how often ep-
,;Plititietis might be renewed, and how diflicult it would be to
,discriminate between the real and
.apparent necessities of the
~ease, TheY would recollect that wawa . the agricultural interest
. wits sufferiog deeply some years age, endeavours had been•inade
,to ,obtain relief in the manner nose propolsetf, but on coining
.to the application of •. the principle, they had found them-
. selves compelled to abandon it. With respect to Ireland, the
eircumstances of the case were widely different, Ireland had no
system of Poor I.aws to resort to, and the state of the country
allowed of the money raised being employed iu 'public works,
;roiule, anti /other objects, which were not wanted in the country..
• Before 'Parlienient should for tile first time draw a draft, on the
public purse, Which if once begun-, no one could tell when, the
„practice would end, it was proper 'that every other expedient
sliottlol be tried. He could not but leak with much confidence
.... to the voluntary exertions► of individuals in aid of the rates which
were raised.: In, the case Of Ireland, the'innount of private con-
! ,tributione,exceeiled 800,000/;: He expected and lipped, that a
• similar effort'strould' now be•inade to Mford relief. This would be
far more consistent with principle, and easy of execution. Relief
. ; might, be administered by a hotly 1 ike „their Lordships, or by a
,Committee, 4,i.t., cupid ;not hy the'Ekecutir'e Government, without
- :., greater objections than applied to any other'made. It was impos-
sible not to admit that the existing evils rendered a revision of our
, situation with respect tortlutyriet• of; food, even at this late pe-
riod of tita`Seggion aistolutely neeettettryt,,,' He, had said early in
• tats present years, thetithogh, hit fe the fte4itiity of an alteration
id the Corn Laws, yet that the- net Wii)i)eildd' when the tuhject
could htdisenssed. r Indopepdently 4r.the ordinary ohjections to
such a diat;u4lioii,' thOtirehgstances of the preeent onotnentfurr
. . tileltek lidilifintutf ones: ;to ' Parliament taking into consideration
• whit *head be the permanent system of the :Corn Lima. Pitt
at the erne, time parliament ought not to separate without re.
leasingthe bonded corn at a reaionable 'duty,. and throwing it into
the general iitass.tif publie inniumption; or without investing in
the King 'anti 'Council &power,. to !eat till aix .weeks after the
Next meeting of Parliament; ,of admitting other, stipplies of fo-•
reign grain cm payeaeut of a certain duty, as necessity might re-
quire. Such a power was one with which no Government
would,wi•sh to he invested. Ile appealed to his own conduct to
prove the truth of ,this atsiertion. - When the last Corn Rill bud
been frapied, a clause to that effect bad been introduced, which
fre • had ;Opposed, end which the Ilotete had rejected, on tie
ground that•Fuoy a; power ought not to form a part of a general
system of Jaw. • There were special circumstances in which ex-
wPtinns might be niatle,"anil the present was a case in which it
was the duty of Parliament to make one.
' The Earl'of AttAtiMESIIIIIIY reminded their :Lordships of
his having declared some time since that if his Majesty's Mini-.
*hors came , fotwarokyL74l; a case of necessity in their hands, he
would he ready to agree Ili the admission of bonded corn. With
respect to the second parnof) the iniefOnlre which they now pro-
posed, he felt' unwilling to take tinint. himself the responsibility
• ef a batty decinintkilar4,,WAt.,, reniteit time for consideration.
All fit time 'lionise felt Ow plipArt syMpatlif'for. the:suffering of
the tainufactorers, but he lemented thatltlifiy shoals' have been
-so deceived' i 4 lo'suppoao :that they owed their present state to
-die-Corn ' Latin.' • understood, oli rho high authority of a
Report, which he regretted was not before the House, the Ite-
pirt of Mr. Jacobs, (that supposinge•-dttty of ten shillitogs to be
be imposed upon foreign corn, foreigt('Merobants anti' grosvers
coal not import it to this country at a lovirr price titan 608.
Now it Would be seen by the averages 'for the list three years
that during that period the ;trice of corn in England had been
.`below CiOs. anti the yeople had cotters the 'produce nt English far-
. mers cheaper than that of foreigners could be... The filet,was that
the distress arose from the want of a demand from abroad. Ile
would not attempt to reason with starvation, but' by destroying
ruachiltery ai they were doing, the manufacturers prevented the
• yoesibility of satisfying that demand if it should return. It was
• eifest for them to look for a market to their own felloiv-suhjects.
Of these the landholders pnrchased three-fifths of their produce ;
irthey ruined the landholders, therefore, where, there seas now
oti.o starving- manufseturer there wood he threm'l3y enemiraging
the i hied interest in our own country, a stouotly;,fertain, and even
th•apitopply of grain was securea,;all the Aloraffee of the most five
yes to 'would' prove.'.
F.arl GROSVENOR approved of tlilt ruArsueirs I►rormse4 by:tis
Majesty's Ministers. Ile wished to knoWlcitlyvwligtheri in the
' first 'lnstance corn 'lwouloi be introducetl.atiqj,ondeitl, and afterwiicbs
bi.ouglititini the iiiiirltet?'
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~, Thq Eatl of I,AUDEIIDAI,E Mill, that common Iptirdeiiii
• "woald dictitte the propritity of ,ap tottutrutt ,tht.. tatigAs oi he
Ini)sent eindress tit exCertain OlteOter ,peyavert produced. by
the high price o corn, before that rbpirtinn Nras
.proelaionoisl to
~ the y,lnhl as tha of their ',Loydshiiss, xyll,ich tmust be: the case
if the prOposed measures were adopted-, Igh would , inquire
further, Wherif, there was 0_ lilts rtbt te,..kstutrulo,
were
ithroad
foir the pkoshice r of ours rnanufacttiriiir If Inc- we're rightly in-
formed ti 're was a delinand, but ,it Itts hempered by 'other
1:
vie vs, pe . would al the titanuflctorilers whether t e abtrm.
,created ¢y the. Ran •n g irneasurei *sire :itot!,,,the cause of
• • tha distrnsa ? And he would ask Tile Majesty's Tiu
•• Nvle,:thei they ware not iistishetFwititilre4xisaing sufferings,; and
wt o 'Alx they won id extCnd Ahei,"7ltlactp ht.' tit e„,;Agrleulttirists, the
.-, only claui now' in a statc of prospatlty't litchneW oft no, noire
• resis pocet:dilog ilitul at the: tilose,of ,s. Seesiett,,Flo,,there teas
~no ,opoirt,n;;Lk, for
,Intiulrt ,f' ; file olltdbasterst otte , th,i,o,crown to
....• moue tlow .1 v,:tli a ;irnOnrt.l,;:it irti,.tv,,erettte ,: as niticli olaton,
and to . indict o
AA treat, ,
, labourer's, as.they had folk:tea itit"fliPoitaithfaetitritig ones,,T,iii.:
poyor whieli the Ministers closini4Ntrii 4.'Very• serious 0ut0,..1041
if they persisted in demon:ling ti,-fie truSlted that they Would
ecomnpany it with an !obligation noon themselves to call Pasiits.-
meta et a certain period, to consider tlits' situation of the coon-
, try, He had no objection , 0,.. the admiesien of the Bonded
(*At lint as to the faculty of intreduelug foreien'wboat, accord.
• ing to his ow judgment, be 11044
,fbat ;the Noble Earl 'bad
asked too reach' of the confidence of .:Parliainent, when the wire
of grain had, in reality, no effect whatever on the ilistrtsses of the
...• country.
, Earl llARDWlCKE.coincioled with the measures proposed by
• - his llfujesty's Ministers. • ;
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Tbe arl of LIVERPOOL agriteil
,that these Ewho ascribed the
present distressers to the Corn Laws must
,ht;, blind to all that
•• , had takenplaeflin the country during the last ten mouths. , But
--wfuttlit.r the Corn .Laws were right or wrong, he :illould never
*lo4k fyolo thri dir;iftotion if the *object. -, lit?, had, already gated
.. lki* opinion that surge alteration was necessary,. end sours of the
alteniativee whleh it would be necessary to, adopt. IL' shoidd
' new repeat that cireutustances made the present moment must
unfit to 'consider a permanent system of Corn Laws. The
Noble Earl oriposits (letuderolale) said, that the existing dis-
, • • treesee did not prise , from a want of, dernand ;if ow, they would
bet easily cured, and could not continue. If Mot wanted coats
.• or shoes,: they,tnight put offhaving them, but they must have
. ,
oheon iii, time. Bet if overtrading in ,one year haul led to over-
-- production, and a cessation of the demand .in the next left the
warehouses ensounthertel with goods, distress must ensue. This
was..the present't case, end was that any argument againet affording
immediate roil of?, .As to the quisstion of the Noble Earl (Gros-
venor)f it won tl be bust answered When the, details of the mei-
nre eatoto to he discussed.:
,•4,yroseut lie wished only to cored-
d„ tilt; general principle of atintuesion._ Ile 'lid pot see why the
egrienlttiralist should he alarmed. Alt that was:veletted was, that
Parliaonent should not *operate and have, the ceuntry exposed to
* for:line pr iCe of: corn, . He did not,
.say that the present Was a
flailing price,,but it tnighr grow up to it.. The earetaa,tuffeed err'
thoi 4:44,Pt1y 11S us til7Catit,tl all (1 every thing were )40 altered Amer) '
1 f.:, t 5, whoa he Cern Bill was patted, that -if it ought to be ad.
boxed Itie;:tlie Prices at least must be altered.- That bOtoled corta
should it
itatitior4.4,l,l F4typintifitiee at a,ditty, IMO that thd Kiog
4. , c,„,,,ift sheffht he eirspoweted to admit filrthe'r supplies, aba at
1 4- were trot:things ettlo44•Pli (iiltol but to mauve tdarriti
•4' " ' A 1 • Ail t WirterA.• . ' •
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rite ,r,54.,.! ~f, )lAOIO , tlfiV,,impareti OM ivp tine ailloUot
1 import flOtV? , , .
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'•,.'she Ertel of LIKERPIIft , U 24. 116,-1,4).041/I‘.4t "1y tat it
Toua be twelve. slain, ~, . • ' •• • • -
• . The Earl, of MA LMESIILIFIY would not pledge himself to sup-
. port that part gtila inr4surC, tilj he 84%Y What effect the proposal
' • Prn'iutect on tbo,agriFutitsralisis. • , • .
Lard DAC.I,IE recommended a thermic of taxation Al the hest
..mane of relieving distress, and contended that it was impwsthle to

some to any ether conclusion from the measures proposed by his
Majesty's Ministers, than that they thought the present sufferings
of the manufacturing districts arose.from the high price of prose-
*ions. Otherwise why propose these measures as remedies? He
believed' that there was no cessation of demand ; and was indeed
informed that many of the opulent masters had suspended work-
ing, net from want of Orders or ultimate means, but from that of
immediate supplies from the state of the public credit. The mea-
sure lately adopted by Government with respect to the cur-
rency, although be concurred in their principle, were ill-timed,
and had increased the mischief; and until public credit wait re.
stored, distress could not be removed.
Lord CALTIIORPE did not believe that the late deplorable
events could he imputed to the refusal of Parliament to consider
the system of the Corn Laws. He hailed with satisfaction the
measures proposed, believing that the present distress was pro-
dueled by a temporary cessation of foreign demand, which was
itself occasioned by our uo longer finding a market in those parts
of the world which supplied us with grain, and which would still
take our goods if we continued to take their corn:
Earl GREY had been particularly desirous of leaving: the
discussion to the hands of those who were most able to do jus-
tice to the subject. He could not, however, refrain from soli-
citing the attention of their Lortlehips fer a few minutes. He
would not arrogate to himself a feeling of sympathy towards
the distressed manufacturers superior to that of any other, for
it was impossible to see the sufferings which every day re-
yodel', without a sickening of the heart. A part of our popu-
lation were literally dying of hunger, and the first duty of the
House was to proffer them succour. It was said that this popu-
lation was deluded ; and it was but too true that its feelings. had
been directed to the destruction of that property, front which it
would ultimately suffer. That delusion was to be combated
by argument--that violence to be restrained by the vigour-
ous use of authority, and the strength of the laws ; but whilst
pilnishing excesses, Ministers had an imperious duty to, per-
form. They bad to relieve that distress which had occasioned
those excesses, and they had to relieve it in a prompt and imme-
diate manner. And haying performed this duty, they had to in-
quire into the causes of the present state of the country in order
to provide permanent remedies against the return of similar
sufferings. Indeed both Houses of Parliament would be guilty
of a dereliction of duty it' they did not exercise the power
which they possessed, to enforce upon Ministers the necessity of
continuing the Session until all due inquiries had been made.
Parliament could, not be allowed to disperse itselfs. ex it swaieres,;i
ported to be on the eve of doing, at a time which woulekri*LlYA
for declaring its a ttinge perinanilit. In a situation. wlwAy;f4tlll,
violence were committed which were 'net itnnutedsto.tliesegeetum,
or discontent, but to absolute famine ; when authority; weaseo
et nought, and property destroyed, from' which•thersdeetroyerie
would' have procured sthlstence ; itt a state of such dates
ger the lege had furnished the King With power to convene
Parlianient• et a short notice, and yet this was the time
chosen for dismissing it; nay possibly for dissolving it 1 It
was the duty of. the Ministers. to advise the Crown, and if they
neglected that•sluty it was for the House to address the Throne
net to allots Perliament to separate without having first .pro-
vide(' irmilediaterciio; and by investigation autl more extended
legislation, having secured the country against a renewal of its
present celarnitiese This opinion was confirmed by what had
fallen from the Noble Earl opposite. Far from bailing with
satisfaction the metieUres which had been announced, his alarm
was increased by their proposal. The Noble Earl bad depre-
cated the idea that. the Corn Lives were the cause of the
existing distresses. This was a subject' so likely to excite
the passions, that it,. ought to be approached only with the
deliberative wisdomof• the Legislature,. acting for. the corn.
munity.at large, without ettempting to, force a particular
on the House by Meanie. of an inflarnatory nature.—He woold auk
the Noble Ea 4 whethersbe had abetairied•altogether frotn.ieflain-•
elation? The Corn Leon Might- with revision, thouglilooking gt
the'averages for ,the heat three years the priecokornhad'evideutly
nothing to do with theln4ierit 'but'thiasil tinhject °mkt tea
be treated with care and caution. It was not the pert °twiggy},
to denounce a system which bad not itetatedlfirejudiciallyste.,thee
country, and the greatoit evil of whicliwkruldi be; to 'be 'kept! in see
state of itictuation. Never, therefore, was there a more inapreuleu;,
or more ill-advised proceeding theft when his Itilisty'le'llltuietersej
gain notice last tension of their ititentierite•altir- the Corn Lime.,
From this declarations of their had all the 'subsequent chimneys,
arisen. They had taught the country •to look at .those laws
,as
vicious—they were considered as having pledged themselves to
alter them, and , much of the ertient•iliesetisfaction proceeded_
from their refusal to redeem that pledge. The' alteration in the
currency was also another cause of caufueicei, because admitting,
that foreign corn slieuld be admitted at a fixed duty, it was nes..
cessary to know in what currency' that duty was to be paid. A
Government„ seriously attending to its own situation and to
what was due to its own diameter, would have abstained from
saying. any thing, till it had made up its mind to what ought
to be done and the period at which it-Ought to be carried role
effect. He therefore did not think • the Noble, Etta quite:is at-
less of having contributed to aggravate the existing tilistmtme.
jf such had, „bean the result of his con.luot last •Seiliall
Wee likely to be that of proposed ? It could ,lows
u ,other effect r thin to cOrea:iik: alarm: It was !lunettes),
as a measure of *hide- it Wu 'the- duty of.; kerlia-
meet to pass. How, was it• a ineaeure of relief lowers
!beg the price of corn. Pill" it net' follriw. that Idinistere mist
leo:udder ;lie Airieceif ,eprri es the cause, of the•distiess to lie
re-
lieved? For if theligh had' 'fiething to do with
that :distreese why, introduce the
..meesure? Tay this very ace
Ministers inereased. clamour and which they
• wished to ..comiteritet. Vint would be the effect ose the asri-
cultural interest, ' when land-owners should seer the Noble
Lord aggravating every evil, by proposing such a measure as
a measure of relief ?, As to the other measure, it was im-
possible that it, 400(1 he adOpted without much discussion
reed inquiry. The Noble Earl ;Staid, that it was not one of
immediate, relief, but to 'previelf,'coni from reaching a fa nine
price. What was the peculiar 'ileeessity of such a precaution at
this moment,? What information had the Noble Earl acquired
as to the nature of the, supply the; country ? Had he any
reason to fear that corn would' reach a famine price, or rid he
vid to increase alarm ,by proclaiming his own apprehensions,
and to increase it in the oily, Wo of the population which still
remaineellemed? Let Parliarne, t set tip work to probe the sub-
ject to its foundation, and to see the real cruises of the present die-
tees** esti dieptieses•Parlitiment at this period, and to do it a mans
tier winch pUi"itut of the powerof the King to collect it
imineeliatolyewouhl be on the part of his Majesty's hlieisters a
high toistheneanintr. With rasped to the currency he wag one•of
those• When epperaved of a metallic circulation ; but seeing what lisp-
pened Wheneeer that `desirable point was approached, he could not
avoid expressing some doUbts es to the possibility of reaching it.
When.lie haw the country stiffering still after ten y 'ars front the
effectr of an ill-advised war, he fit that unlew its Govettimeet
took the matter in hand, and proposed those general reforms ne=
ceesary to restore it to a healthful state, distress would 'come and
return in a worse form, tills convulsion of such a nature must ar.:
'rive, that although the country might recover hereafter, it would
be sifter going through a degree of suffering fearful to con-
template.
Lord CALTIIORPV. explained.
Earl lIATIIURST stated, that the only growl on which the
proposition of the Noble Marquis opposite rested, fir relieving that
distrew which all lamented equally, was the certainty that the grant
of money would open the doer to multiplied applications of the
same nature, which would become serious burthens to the coun-
try. He regretted that the Nelils !trail sluiuld not have expressed
sooner the objections whirls he tout to a change in the eurrency,wht
there had been au many opportunities for doing so. Tie contended
that his Noble Friend (the,Earl of Liieepeol) had attributed the
existing distress to overtredings the °Vets:MOON; 'of the market,
and the cessation of the demand, and Unita *he high price of corn ;
and that he del not propose the present measures as measures of
relief, but a4i intended to prevent the prig of cent 'freest rising and
aggravating the evils of the' period, and'llirefore as measures of
precaution. In the present state of 61110'4(0CE! of 80ibillings
and :iron less, 'Would be a &mho price, and yet unless English
corn rose to 80 'Mingle bowled cortewould siot•lie snowed to
cow' into the market, so tilltt She whole, :cenietry•anight starve
whilst it knew that the warehouses were,filled with grain, which
euus perish WitiltAit being used ! Wll5 that the situation in which
Noh,he Lords would wish the population of England to be placed ?
Earl ItOSSLYN contendtel that tliesinet and measures of his
Majesty's Ministers proved that they ceitifideisal the price of corn
es the operating muse .of the 'present- ;distresses, and thus en- '
eouraged dues:Amour of the suffering. manufacturers against the.
isooledisetertst,
Tieultd of LIVERPOOL repeated' hie conviction that the
Ittleeial.ddifi nothing'to' ild with the present distresses; and
Statid-;;Vbiehtlie;toteittertettivisich ho had enuoinitied were measures
net.ipt italiof. iie hxl, already elecleted,' that
i•-•,,,""1":75% •. %i Cideffelief.syptild be derived 'from the eu-
' q.,,,,,itt!1";r914". subeceiptiene of the' country. The price
""1„1%.;. r.44ling fiir'stweral weeks, and though
odeuear.tilTt na froinnt. Might'aPprooelt,it to a degree
vl" *4°4 reedy nAV.VII"-rs: thit' ,144-5414 evils, if, FeL41"31.61/11
like tliose proposed Were not taken.
The Earl of LIMERICK contended; that wheat was far from
a famine price, since it was only between 455. and 461. in-Ire-
land, and fils. in Engirind.
Lord ELLENIIOROUGH observed, that hie Majesty's Mini-

stern seemed to consider the present period as the very wont pos-
sible for considering the Corn Laws, and as the most favourable
for altering those laws without considering them. lie wag con-
vinced that they were endeavouring to obtain 'surreptitiously, by
availing themselves of the feeling excited by present circum-
stances, that which if conceded for a time, would soon be found
to have become a permanent system.
After a few' observations from the Earl of DARNLtY, the
Petition was laid on the table.

BANK NOTES, .;
The Earl of SHAFTESBURY gatia,*nOtiee on the 'part of
his Noble Friend (the Earl of LiVetpool) who had 'retired, that
on Friday next he should move that:tbe* Amendments wade
by the Commons to the Prethissory .Nbtes Bill be taken into
consideration. •
Mr. CiLAYTZR from the Treasury presented an accout of all
foreign Grain and Flour now in Bond:—Laid on tilt table.
Mr. Tuus3l.l from the Admiralty presented an account of the
wly;.e expence of the Coast Blockade Service,—,,Laid. on the
table.—Adjourned at EIGHT O'CLOCK.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

DISTRESSES IN THE MANUFACTURING DISTRICTS.
Mr. CANNING ; I rise, Sir, to give notice of my intention
to submit to the House, to-morrow, a measure fir some modi-
fication in the Corn. Laws, with reference to the existing die-
tresses in the Manufacturing Districts.—(Hear, hear.)--This ac-
counts received this morning of the sufferings of the people, in
these districts, are such as must deeply affect every human
heart, not altogether callous to the distresses of our fellow-cres-
tures. Whatever may be the expediency of interfering in this
way for their relief upon general principles, there are some
cases of ouch peculiar hardship, that they call for extraordinary
messitres'for the immediate alleviation of the calamity, as far as
that can potel ly be done by any regulations that can be adopted.
The measure which. I intend to propose for the consideration of
the-House, appears to me the best calculated to meet the existing
evil, and the least objectionable in point of principle that can, at
present, be devised.' In the neighbourhood of the places in
which the distress is most severely felt—.-in the ports of Liver-
pool, Hull, and other sea-ports--there is a considerable quan-
tity of bon led Corn, which cannot, as the laiv at present.
stands, be brought out for sale in this country. When the
question respecting the Corn Laws was lately. brought be-
fore the ' Haase, Ministers oppesed the introduction of any
lalteration into these 'bawd;,. in 'the full persuasion that the
*resent was a most inconvenient time for any interference on
:the part of the Legislature;. and in that persuasion they still
'continue; and even the'very existence of the present distress is,
in itself, an argument for the propoeition that this is a very inconv
aenient dine for interference with the general question. What I
propose, then, to submit to: ,the House, is a measure somewhat
similar to that which Was adopted last year, but under different
circumstances ; a measure which may do good, and can do little
or no injury to any,' class of men. What I. propose is, that a
law shauld be passel for enabling the Proprietors of Bond-
ed Cor ito bring their'Omin inks) the Market. The amount of
Bonde 1 Wheat in the Ports is understood to be from 250,000 to
800;000 'quarters ; and the infusiOn of this quantity into the
corn market may prove beneficial to the people, without any
material injury' to the agricultural interests. But it is even
something to do away with the ides and impression of
people being reduced to such an extremity of distress with
abundance of food locked up. in their vicinity. So far then
we may, I think, fairly and safely go on, in affording such
relief as lies in our power, to those on whoM the distresses of
the present crisis press most heavily. But as we cannot, at this
time, he sure of the state of the next harvest, I mean fur-
ther to propose, that in the Bill to be submitted to the House
on this subject, a clause should be inserted to enable his Ma-
jesty in Council to open the ports for the admission of fo-
reign corn, either partially or generally, at the discretion of
'Government, during the recess of Parliament, in case such
a measure should appear to be necessary or expedient.—(Hear,
hear, hear.)—The House cannot but be aware, that under the
existing pressure a measure of this kind may be just and
proper, whatever difference of opinion may prevail as to the
general principlesi. which 'ought to regulate the trade in Corn.
With these principles the present measure will not interfere, as it
is proposed merely with reference the particular crisis. When
the bonded corn was suffered to be brought into the market last
year, the proprietors had a claim, or a quasi claim, to have their
corn released, because it had been imported with some doubt 'of
misunderstanding as to the state of the law on the subject ; this is
uot the case in the present year, fur the importers of corn were
well aware of the state of the law, and imported the grain merely
to take the chance of whatever events might occur. With respect
to the opening of the ports, itthat shall be deemed expedient, I
propose that the minor duty of 12 shillings per quarter should be
imposed upon foreign grain imported into this country. I believe
the, regular mode of proceeding will be, to move to-morrow, that
the House go into a Committee on the Corn Act of 3d George IV.
withe view to the introduction of the measure now in view; but
I wish it to he distinctly understood, that I do not mean, to. pros
' rise any alteration in this' Act, beyond the two points which I have
mentiOned......(klear,`ltesir !)
Mr. TIERNEY raid, as the general proposition was to ,be dis-
cuoint4OeanorrOnrjto'Aveuld now inin'erll "'wets his gratification
at .wlyat had Wien crow the Right Matt. letnnn.. •
Mr. PIMPS had no doubt that alellit been said .by, the
Right lionsiniable' (lend:arum would; hate,k; most., important.
effect upon the mini tifactisting. intereetf of; gle:gpoun try, He had
lately conversed TeapeCt3l44oolo4.9, who was a large
importer of cotton, and an exporter 'Vita manufactured ar-
ticle, and he had stated to hint Oftr."'ig tulip) 'that the price
of cotton lied been so 'Unnaturally liaised: itv Abu course of last
year, as that no man was desirous of having a large stock on
hand. With this opinion he had 'aped!' coincided, and he Was
farther of opinion, that the price of cotton was too high to in-
duce the manufacturer to proceed. The same Gentleman also
informed him (Mr. Philips), that his house was prepared to
engage in extensive business if they 'could only obtain their
returns. The state of the exchanges being unfavourable, pre-
sented a considerable difficulty in obtaining remittances without a
loss ; but if grain could be imported, these remittances could
more easily be made; and the' import of grain at low prices
would be the means of procuring a market for our ninnufactures.
It was highly important that the subject of the Corn Laws.
should be discussed and ended; for he sincerely believed that
nothing would prevent the recurrence of similar calamities to
this present, so much as the admission for foreign corn under a
proper duty.
Mr. CANNING—Lest any mistake might be made as to what
I lutte stated, and as several. Members are now in the House
who might not have heard that statement before, I beg now to
say, that my proposition did not et sill go to involve the dis-
.cutssion of the Corn Laws. AtitLfor. this reason, that those very
circumstances which justified' the 'Critriernment in, proposing a
partial measure of relief, would' tend to:unfit the country for the
sober investigation of the general :gustation. of the Corn Laws. I
now give no opinion on what has .been stated by the. Hon. Mein.:
her (Mr. Philips), bnt I hope I shall in no degree be implicated
in what he has urged upon the consideration of the House. I
have only to express my wish that 'a temporary measure, intend-
ed to meet a partial pressure, may not lead to a general discussion
on the question of the Corn Laws,
Mr. PHILIPS perfectly so underetood the Right Hon. Gentle-
man ; hut he thought it important 'to' state the conversation
which passed between him and a very Nvolt:infurved gentleman
on this very important subject. Ile was Hilly persuaded, that the
very fact of the importation of corn would, do snore good than the
merely lowering it price.
Mr. ELLICE agreed with the. Right Hon. Secretary, for he
thought the best plan would be to give the corn ata reduced price,
hut at the same time be wished 'to kiMw• whether his Majesty's
Government intended 'to bring any othermeasure on thii suhjeet,
Mr.'Secretary CANNING said he would not enter into a dis-
cussion on the subject at present.. Thus plies. proposed was not a
permanent one. it was only to afford u. temporary relief, after
which the grand question might be agitated without being inter-
fared with by the present measure.
After .an observation from Mr. Wont:House; Mr, TIERNAT
rose to order.
Mr. Wountiouse explained.
Mr. JAMES thought, that Ministers would do well to
imitate the excellent example of his Majesty, and give pp_ a
part of their large salaries to prevent their countrymen from story-
ing, or they ought to review,* eithosts, in order to ascertain
what sums alight be saved, in order_ to rescue thoiiimthds of poor
starving manufacturers from destruction. Ile thought it would
hurl been voted
for the national
be far better to give up the suio sif 9,000/. which
pictures. The. Pone lied lward of an' ma:Mice
era poor woman who had stolen a, leg
.ef mnttUn, huflipon :the
owner of it watching her home, he found glittNittS 4t in
its raw state to her family and cli4dFtwi.....,4na ieniiiienco:h4d
Deterred of a poor woman who, after a, anyernaecimeliement, had
setnairn4l twenty-four hours withatitloodurmurs.)--The
Ihm. Member with some warmth, astyl 1:;81 had not'risen fOr the
merriment of the House, he was gla4 be was not going to Sit in
Parliament next Session, in fact be would not sit there if he were
paid 1,0001, year.--(A laugh. )_.No Man deserVed the name of
Englishman, if he did not feet for the 'distress-et of the country.
Had this distress only been among the blacks, the House would
never have heard enough of it.—(Hear, hear.)—He thought if
the money expended on the printing of Petitions in favour of the

Blacks, were sent down to theitAring Whites at Blackburn, it
would be far better eniployed,...lrlt ;was no use when the people
asked for bread, that bayonets, should be tendered them, and he
hoped that some of the 'extraveganCiee of Parliament would be
curtailed and sent down to relieve them.
Mr. T. WILSON trusted that Ministers Would do something to
relieve present dieitresi. . - •
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that in
in submitting any, proposition to ParliaMent, the thing which
of all others Ministers deprecated. was; that what they felt them-
selves bound to do should have the slightest tendency to damp
that generous ardour in the cause of humanity which had hither-
' to-been, and he hoped would
.always continue to be, the charac-
teristic of this countty,, and tbe: ready means of animating all
classes of his Majesty's subjects to the performance of their public
duties.—(Cheers.) •
Mr. Secretary PEEL said, • that it was his painful duty to re-
ceive the details of the distresiies in the manufacturing districts,
and his more painful duty, but one that be was determined to
perform, to repress the disorders which had arisen from those dis-
tresses. While, however, he felt the necessity of acting with de-
nision, he could not help expressing his deep commiseration of the
severe sufferings of the distressed part of the population ; and with
few exceptions, his great admiration of the patience and forbear-
ance with Which those sufferings had been borne. The Right
Honourable Gentleman concluded with expressing a hope,
that a great deal would be done to-morrow for the relief of the
distressed population in the manufacturing districts.—(llear,
hear !)
Mr. Secretary CANNING wished to confine the question before
'the House to a mere measure of temporary relief, and he hail
nonOtion' of interfering with the great question of the Corn Laws.
After a few words front Mr. RoezuTsotr, the motion was
agreed to:

yESTAIINSTER TRANSFER -BILL.
The'Report ef,the Cotinnittee'ou the Westminster Transfer Bill
Tutting been presented,
Mr. TIERNEY•movod'• that ;.a clause should be added to the
Bill, to the effect that a street should be Macadamised whenever
two-thirds of the inhabitants were unanimous in requiring it.
After a few words from Mr. H. SUMNER, Lord Lowrmaa,
and Sir R. WiLsox,•the clause was read a first end second time,,
and ordered to stand part of the Bill. • t
The pill was then ordered to be engrossed, and read a third
time to-mornow.
The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the
House adjourned, at Half-past Six o'Clock.