The Sun.
London, England, 1817-04-01 00:00:00


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held out ; amt'gvan if'it i'irenot the .teit• oY the
Speaker's health would prevent him from oppos.
ing the mo, ion.
Mr. CANNING Inistvd that 'the Right lion 6e41.4
tleman would not he disaponlived i expects..
tion concerning the at the, Oith ilkintee
and his Majesty's Ministeis woold bretoto in the
subject before them : hufif the Gt n-
tiemen laid in his claim for a 'Sudden anti ennodete
removal of all the distress of thi'count4, claim«
0d what it was beyond the reach of Miniiters to
effect, and but impossibilities to be per,fiirtnetl
human means. lii making such a delosina.oti,"the
limited !loiters of the Committee, he • fivntedtbe
Right Hon; Gentleman could Only be actuated
with a view to excite or increase the i üblic dis-
content., He *as certain there enalti be no want
of attention On The part tat the COmMittee ; and
he hoped that sonic plan for poetical relief, to
certain extent, tnithr-1 found : bus he should
he sorry to excite Bitch exuw.tetutild eipertations
as theßiglir Nom Grottomaii hati held out, for
the removal of evils which It was b401;f1 the-power
of human wisdom to prevent, or human Legitlt..
tion to remove.

Mr. Porte°Nev expected no complete or sudden
removal of the Ceik alluded but, hitherto,, Isla
step had been taken.
Mr. .133oUGIIAM c.otplaineil, that the liars (en.
tleutatt (Mt. Canning) hail, in his usual rely not
only imputed to his lion. Friend (Mr. Ponsonby)
What lie did tiot-stiy, but motives, in seying,
%vide!) lie never. cilultt have been aCttia ett; anti
that the only .object of what, he had nnered was
to excite discontent and diseffection. llc 11.01 put
it to the House, whether a more temperate ad-
dress bail ever been made within those w ; his
Hurt.' Friend had oily expressed a hope that
something would be done to alleviate the distress
of the people. Far his part e(thotigh the lion.
Cienticman,might on' that account the more; im-
pute unjust motives to glut for saying by),hr was
not so sanguine on the labours of the Coultut CC
as his Hen Friend ; for he well recoileette the
origin of that Committee, awl the ,manner in
which it was composed. He well recollected,
that the appointment' of the Committee. Was .not
conceded us a boon by Ministers, but extorted,in
consequence of a 1101jce given from ail Hononrphle
trieud-of his, that such a Committee would be
moved for. lie must say one word, too, orl
disappnintment of another kind, which he fere.
,saw must occur. He was afraid, triter all the
pains that had been taken to prevent the people
at ‘Vestininster from meeting, that if the House
expecte,: no meetings would take Oree within a
mile, they would be erievously disappointed. lie
would explain this, in order that the disuppoietneent
-might bell lightly, and not create whet would be
termed ground for alarm ; though he should kkot
It. surprised. if-Ministers AlltarLiiu4 .ittitelt-elispoeset
to cry out on such en oceesion as tsgainst a direct
breneleof tbe,law. But whatever numbers asseine
bled, and fur whatever purpose, no breach of the
law would be committed.;. for in that hurry in
which all dignity of proceeding, till due deliberae
flint on a most important subject, and all the
forms of that House bail been set at nooglit, it
had entirely escaped the notice of Ministers, that,
besides the 'flaws in the clause respecting West-
minster, there were two others that rendered the
Bill altogether nugatory. The first was, that a
meeting might be held . in Palace-yard or else-
where, for the purpose of addressing the Prince
Regent, or the Crown, for the removal of his
Majesty's Ministers, :because, 'by, the eleuse iii
the Bill, the meetings were prohiliited from con-
sidering the alteration,of .any thioje in Chtiech
State; but the removal of his Nlidest y's Ministers
was not any alteration in Church or State ta,the
Cleat place, the obiect of the Bill was to protect
Parliament froth the vit:iuity,of the Weitininiter
tneetinto, and they were not to be held withitea
mile of the doors at Westminster.liall e hut there
was nothing to prevent a meeting iu the Halhitseic;
and one, of the largest meetings lie ever knew had
been held within that buildieg: so diet all the citi-
zens of Westminster might. fur the considerei ibn of
any subject wleitceer, meet in WestillieSter-ball,
within oh- shot of Tarliallrent trtlstet),,r.
,fietcfore,, that ~tae disappointmeet would he, expe-
rieeced, no alarm :exerted, and no argument
adduced for the enactment of , farther coercive
measures, it a meeting should be li, Id in lVest-
minster-hell, the most natoetoo4 and best ratted led
of any. Ile, concurred with his Hon. Friend in
the hope that soteething,wouhl be.elf:eted during
the recess towards alleviating the distres; that so
loudly demanded pttention ; and hoped else,
that during. the adjoernment no steps would be
taken Alinisters touching the a:Tairs of South
Arlo:ripe ; or any done to impede the inde-
pendence of those Colonierin object, the ac-
complishment of whieh eVery roust
so -ardently desire. lie trusted :that Mieisteis
would not commit the country nethe Way of me
diation, more than they hail coltuititteo it alreedy.
, BeTtt VAST. stated, that the Bill did not
apply, to Incelnigs Belch %Odle Ptolietnent was nqt
sitting ; that he b,Aieved. the Courts of .Jotti3P
had tht, puwer of preventing meetings in West.;
minstvt- hall duriog the, time they were CMpIOYAd
there and thitt, at all events, Mr. Fox bad on
one occa,iou submitted to their authority ten such
alt Oeeasion. Notwithstanding the, defects Of
the Bill, which were no secret to Mitristers,, be
deemed it. a salutary. measure. ft was true, that
'hi. prevailing distress was the cause of the mea,
sure, for that. distress had laid the people open to
the arts of designing men. was impossible.
to hope that aity tilettStlrttS could entirely: it.
Illore that distress; but, every,exertiou would be
made with, the hope of alleviating it.„ ,
Mr. Beouortees explained, .
tit ttit to said, the: the country diet expect
touch eeef the labours of 'tire Committee; rind