The Sun.
London, England, 1821-01-24 00:00:00

THE KING'S. SVEECH:

The SPEAKER then acquainted the House that
be had been to the House of Peers, pursuant to
the requisition which had been made at their Bar
for that purpose, where he had heard his Majes-,
ty's most gracious Speech froth the `f prone ; an 4
in order that he might be the better enabled to
convey the contents of the same to them, he had
procured a copy, which he would read.
The Royal Speech was then read, for which
see Lords.

Mr. BAlmrs, jun. on rising to propose.an Ad-
dress to his Majesty, spoke to the following ef-
fect:—

Mr. SPEAKER—Sir, in proposing an Address to
his Majesty of acknowledgment for his ffracioui
r
Speech,whichwe heard some hours since,and which
you have at lasthad an opportunity of reading, to us,
[ shall not trouble you with any expressions of
conscious insufficiency, because I am aware they
are a very poor excuse for the presumption of a
voluntary undertaking,,and because I do-riot ap-
prehend any thing very difficult in the 'return of
suitable acknowledgment for- gracious intima-
tions and assurances every way calculated to in-
spire• a dutiful arid,affectionate feeling. As one
of his INlajesty's many, many loyal subjects,
•I
propose, Sir, that- we approach 'his Throne, to
assure him of the fidelity of a nation which is
sound at heart—a nation not so intoxicated
by the splendour: of unparalleled triumphs, ior
so lulled to apathy by the security of a profound
peace, as to visit with ingratitude the promoter of
those triumphs, and' the procurer of this honour-
able repose, In a nation in which all are free,

Daly mast havelief-lreedorn, ail iniSaliaf -*ill
mark her -tool-; folly will diiChatge' her
debts Of 'gratitiide- by' delqing their amount----by
forgettind- the'datiger froM which she hail been
delivered7--4hOugh 'ever, •iihen in peril her Self,
the loudest - to-' complain and the foreMoSt to
despair. The' Spirit of Misc-hief can have no ac-
count of gratitude to settle' With the peace-maker ;
it is a spirit obucodous to repose: in'warand tuniulf
it can 'be content to hope all evil to the good.
order Which it hates, but in peace it must; enlist-
seland 'contrive it ; it is then it is Seen walking
restless througifthe dry places of the land, insti-
gating the owner of each 'poor and barren plot
not to -cultivate and improve, but to curse the
little portion: he is heir to. - 'lt is even this same
spirit that.could heretofore,-with -mischievous ex
aggeration, deck Out- the- avokved implacable
enemy of its country, with irresistible 'might,'
infallible sagacity, and• inexhaustible re-'
source, and with prophetiC feryotir could foretel
!the -stability of all that he should set up, an& the
ruin of all he should den-Ounce ; the same spirit
thatcould boldly excuseand justify all his crimes,
or more boldly could deny them. ' When baf-
fled in its ''every hope, belied by every pro-
phecy; this bankrupt firm
,of impudent inven-
tion has still new fictions ready for new credu-
lity, nevi- idols for folly's worshiN'and Honourable,
'attributes for every new disturber of pUblic
quiet. If it be true that each'seVeral nation has
a peculiar national character belonging to its
inhabitants, the King, who finds himself at
the head of a frank, a gallant, and a ge-
nerous people, can wish tO .'exchange the
subjects of his Government for, no others on
the face of the earth ;' their valour is renowned
abroad ; in their honourable allegiance he is se-
cure at home; but' there are circifinstances that
Will invariably work a change in every national
character, and, perhaps the strongest change in the
most getierous.and.the best ; such are the circum-
stances of great national success in war. This
will infuse a chivalrous valour, a 'zeal for enter-
prize, a restless desire of still, finding something
to oppose, and something to defend : a chivalry-
that will delight in the 'mimic circumstances of.
war----.-the polished armour and, the nodding,
plume; a chivalry that will combat iscaginary
oppressors, that.will liberate convicted culprits,
and commission them to carry their chains and
their innocence to inspiring genius of his fro
mantic history. Such drawbacks to national
Success, is the wild enthusiasm they inspire :
it may be Well for a PrinCe On his own per-
sonal account to estimate before he volun-
tarily engages Jul war : id defensive warfare,
however, he can have no option, and where
upon,first assuming the reins of government he
finds the Kingdoms of his 'way already engaged
up to the Very crisis of a contest. No alternative
remaining 'but between perseverance in much
peril, or submission in lowest degradation. 'He
has then only to elect whether he will chase to
reign over a broken-hearted people, who will
never infringe his prerogatives, nor question his
rights, nor obstruct his functions, nor presume, to
insult his person : or whether, dismiSSing all
selfish considerations, at the risk of the throne he
sits on, miappalled by the' fate of his neighbour
Kings, then captives or in exile ; unintimidat-
ed by those at hoMe whose patriotic prudence
would suggest more cautiolPs coun4l.;,,mhether
he will, 'disdaining
.all compromise of nation-
al dignity, rouse the ardour of his emPire,
,and are to rely upon it. , If he shall have
,purssed this wise course, if, in doing so, he ,
shall have saved for his kingdoms every thing
and their honour, it is no small . draw back
that shall cancel the gratification:of his bosom ;
and couldhe, at a moment when popular ardour
is misled, regret the deliverance he has worked,
and the laurels he has planted, he might, perhaps,
deserve that those whose deliverance he .has
worked, should Withhold from him their grati-
tude and affeCtion:. The partial abuser of benefits
conferred, will not check the further efforts of
beneficent minds ; if they did so, all national im-
provement' must stand Still; the illiterate must
*remain without instruction, because those who
had hitherto abuSed their ignorance, are now
poisoning the new springs of their knowledge.
tinhappilY this wickedness has not spared us. It
is Sir, the unkindest act of all, that benevolent
Christian good will towards. man, which had
spared neither toil nor cost by education to en-
lighten, and by enlightening. to improve, is doom-
ed to suffer, like the Wounded bird of the poet,
who

" Saw his own l'ather on the fatal duet,
And witnced the shalt, which quiver'd in hi! heart;
Keen was the pang, but kerne' Mill to feel,
Ile nursed the pinion, which impell'd the stee•l."
As one who can share a pride in the intellectual
improvement of his fellow-subjects, who can ad-
Mire the zeal whiCh excites, and the liberality
which.promotes it, who can appreciate the labOri-
ous research which renovates pious endowments,
long since sleeping with their founders ;—as otle
who can pay the humble tribute of his praise for
all that has been done and is doing.in this cause, I
cannot but deeply share their mortification who
deplore the base 'perversion of such noble pur-
poses ;: it is no new thing indeed for slander to
arraign all that, is high and holy, but the tongue
of slander, however venomous, can inflict no wound,
can effect no puncture in the character that is
sound and whole ; it is the pen of the. libeller,
against which innocence is no shield, and at a timr
when the cast eye of.discontent not only envies its
neighbour's goods, but covets its neighbour's cha-
racter; we have, Sir, to dread and to repelone ge-
neral levelling system,bOth of property and of good
name. The barrier 'of the Constitution will not
fall down at the first giddy shout of the multi-
tude ; the high tribunals which are its bulwarks
will ,yet stand, though treason defy their anther
rity,. and Conscious guilt their justice ;—blas—
phemy may rail at the holy place, and hypocrisy
defile it with her pageants, long, long before the-
dome will totter ; but the ruin'must come at. last,
if the remedy be not fitly interposed. When
the league of what is base and false—profligate
and malicious, shall unite honour and integrity to
oppose it, the evil then works its own cure, and
the' remedy is near at hand :—we know its efli
have proved it scarce a twelvemonth
since. In the shows and processions of the year
which has just expired, who but must have called

tb mincl the like 'eXllo)itionS.of ttie tvretemonth
• which.preceiled it ? 'The mitslCs.the March, and
the bannerHtlie meeting, the fesoltitithii and the
address, those first Were
,prototypes of these last
arrays, the same in their real origin and . in their
refit dbjeet; differing' only in their method of ptirA
suing it. The liut PUrSned itS 'object. - by -de-
•notinCing • the 1-:;4ocracy ; the ~!econd by de-
' nbanciug the CrOwn. The Aristocracy was then
true to itSeif ; tiie Representatives of. the people
We' re' then -faithful, and, if, the highest ditties
of fidelity be now as well fulfilled, the country is
yet safe. If we turn' our eyes from the cares Of
doMeStic 54:licitude, and look abroad, the whole
World is to us a scene of cairn tranquillity ; our
flag this on every sea ; our busy industry. plies in
every port ; our character every where high, and
-mir credit every Where firm. If this honour,—
' if this power,—if this peace, have been worth
the winning,- we" might, Sir; 'think them worth
enjoying ; but there is a consistency- in the per-
, verseness of those, who refuse to enjoy the frttits
of measures, which they have loudly ttnd indis-
criminately condemned. , Ij the ill humour,
which has for twenty long years and more, so ac-
tively despaired 'of the public weal,. would at
last confine the limit of its despondency to its
own particular views, and its own ends, content
might then rest at home, and,in its easy seat enjoy
the fire side it has defended ; but when the shout
of clamour is heard from without, that well known
cry," Which has so loudly informed our enemies
of the exhaustion of our' resources, and the fu,
tility of our resistance ; that same cry, Which
so ttr,?ntly demanded a reform, since confessed,
by' its chief ad'vOcates, to be impracticable or
inexpedient ; that same cry, which so formidably
opposed any protection to our agricultural' inte-
rests, ;utider which protection alone, daily labour
is now eating its daily bread ; as often as this
cry of ill'omen is raised and is reiterated, acti-
vity mast become a duty, and the supineness of
'loyalty: is
,a cowardice at least. It is said that
there are some, and there are. some who have
aid it' of themselves, that, on looking back to
the popular demands, which they have sanc-
'Honed with their names, and.-supported with
their abilities, they are now convinced that
yo•:lthful ardour had led them to overstep .the
line of expediency and prudence ; it might be
well if those whose-Second and better thoughts'
led them to this conclusion, would apply their'
Matured Judgment to the' future as well as of the
past, and would view in prosPect the expediency
of those measures to which they may now be
lending the weight of their names, and of their
stations and their characters. It might- be well
if they would remember that the strong af-
fection is received into ready ears, which
are shut aigainst , the subsequent explanation,
and that there 'are some evils easily inflict-
ed; for which, retraelithi is , no redress. The
breach of that cordial confidence, which ought to
stibsist,,and which has subsisted between the se-
veral orders of society living under this happy
Constitution, must be an evil beyond redress; this
confidence was our
.strength in battle, our union
in effort, our hope, and our protection ;' he who
dissOlve4 it breaks our talisman, the only witch-
craft we have used to make of a little island a
great nation. Sir, as a 'great nation,' taking a
chief place among the chiefest powers of the'
earth* we have new ,fnnctions.to attend to, and
a new degree. of vigilance to exercise. The great-
ness we ha-,;e hardly earned, we never shall
willingly tiescend• from ; we shall bequeath it to
yosterity as we won it ; it is a greatness which
is no empty name : this greatness is the vigour.
of -our Commtierce, and the credit of our mer--
cantile good faith -; we have noeovetous,Cravingi
to satisfy, 'either of riches or of territory ; the
treasury of Europe was at our feet when our
bayonets Mounted guard at Paris ; we parted the
spoil aniongst the rightful claimants, keeping for
ourselves'nothing but the satisfaction of having;
done 'so: From a nation which has so acted, no
well-Constituted Government will fear awes,
sion, nor will provoke it ; and. we have the
satisfaCtion of knowing, that his Majesty receives ,
' from Foreign Powers the assurance of- a con-
tinuance of' their friendly disposition., Whilst
we lament that unfortunate circumstances af-
fecting the Commercial credit of Ireland have irn.
peded the receipts of the public revenue in,that
part'of the United Kingdom, we turn with ,pe-
culiar plea Sure. to, the consolatory, balance of
new encouragement to our Manufactures in the
considerable improvement of our Trade. Sir,
in adverting to the proposed provisions for the
Queen, I imagine it will be sufficient that, on
the present occasion, wo express our humble
acquieseenee in his Majesty's recommendation;
and without presuming, to , suggest, what line
of conduct' may best become others, I am
satisfied it will best become me to avoid the ut-
terance of a ;Single word which, might., provoke
premature
~discussion, and unnecessarily disturb
the 'unanimity of our this night's vote. It. is
in the secure hope and expectation of an unani-
Mons concurrence, that I propose an Address
Consistent with the sentiments - haye de-
clared, and with' the feelings I entertain of
loyalty to the Throne, and of order and love
for our Constitution as it stands and as it has so
long stood.
Mr. BROWNE rose to second the Address, but
spolc.: in' so IOW a tone of voice as not to be au-
dible for some `minutes in the gallery._ lie
thought many .persons had been misled by false.
representations.i the consequence of which, if not
checki.d,- would be the destriktion of all that. was
valuable in the country.- He thought any man.
who would not pledge himself to do all in his
power to restore tranquillity, would be forgetful
of his duty to his Sovereign and the country.' One
topic had been alluded to, an interesting topic,'
on which the attention of the. nation .had been
deeply engaged ' He hoped that the House'.
would not .nois, 'be led out of its course- by again
recurring to' the subject to .which he alluded. It
was worthwhile to consider what had been the
conduct of Ireland in that respect.,. What course
had been pursued in that country? No one, not even
the lowest,:the'mtist furious demagogue had ever
strained his voice to advocate the same license
with respect •to female manners, which society
endured in men. It was only necessary to recur
to the history of the French Revolution, to prove

that national debauchery and national ruin We'd
band, in hand. He could not help exiresiing a
hopes that those to whdrn the interests off'th
whose e na-
tion were entrusted, and tipon measures the
happiness of the nation depended, wotild pursde
a cot tn worthy of their own characters, and
worthy of that. reputation Which their former
Measures had secured to them. If, in spite of
alt their endeavours to the, contrary, the spirit of
mischief should •ultimately - prevail, Ministers
viodid at least have the-Consolation of reflecting
that ; they had failed' in defenee of institutions
which had for so great a length of time been the
safety of otir .oviti, and the adiniration of sun:
rounding nations: • • • ,
: The .AddresS was then read
.by the SPEAKEIt
from the Chair. On tht question being put,
Mr;Coftwtx said .he should, hi .the few ob.
seryations he had to, make, follow the Speech
through the different subjects on which it,treated ;
and,: except upon one topic not adverted to in it,
he'slfould.scarccly say any thing. This was not
the first occasion of this. kind in. which' he had

deeply to lament how little knowledge. the Mi
nisters of the Crown seemed to. possess of the real
state, of the cotintry, or how falsely they had re-..
presented it to his l‘elajesty. As he. 110 befor
said, there was little in the Speech itself Nc'hlcli
called for. his animadversion, hu t.as4as freq cent.
ly the case in similar circumstances, there was more
reason to complain of its omissions, than of aught it
contained. Amongst these omissions, the prin-
cipal, in his opinion, was, that of the state of
our agricultural interests. Could • the Noble
Lord be i.noraut that the Agriculturists were
scarcely able to exist ? Did he not know
that their situation was such, that they did not
know where to look•for bread to eat ? _And, in-

stead of branding this class of the nation ivith
want of loyalty and.attachment to. the Throne,
they ought rather to admire. them for their pa.
tience under au, accumulation of suffering. To
talk of treason was a calumny on the country,
vented by certain. Gentlemen who wanted to
arrogate to themselves the whole monopoly. of
loyalty., And these. Gentlemen might say what
they would ; but he maintained that the coun-
try was in that state, of real distress, that no. wise,
Government would wish it to remain and
which they, ought not to depart' from the House
that night without• providing some remedy for.

Session after Session had passed' without
any remedy being • provided. Ile was happy to
observe what he hopeA he was not mistaken
in regarding as 4 spirit •of conciliation• on the
part of those • Ministers who had been the
cause of that ferment in the country which
they all regretted. however much he aught de-
sire to see the present Ministers removed from
their situations, he would never oppose any mea-
sure they might bring forward tending to conci-
liate the :Nation.. At the same time he must
warn them some step of that nature was neces-
sary ; for he believed the pages of history did
not present .any parallel to that" universaVcon-
curreuce-of opinion as to the inability'of the
Ministers, to govern this nation. It was im-
possiblethe: country could go on pa,ying the pre-
sent taxes.
,Thep could not be screwed Out of

the pockets of the people. No man could look
at the state of the labouring classes without shud-
dering. The Poor Rates amounted to what 25
years ago equalled the landed rental, orthe coun-
try. .The only way to meet the danger was to

•
look it full in ihe face, and apply such remedies
for the evil as their nature. required. He was
convinced every man, would bear the- burdens of
the Country with more patience, if he saw a dis-
position on the part of Ministers to relieve them.
Mr. TtEaNr.v said, that, in rising tO sa,y any

thing in opposition to this question, on the "first
dap; of the. Session, he did not feel that lie' was

under any necessity to go the length of troubling
the House with nn amendment to the Address,
which had been moved to his Majesty. Ile knew-
from experience, that ah amendment, under such.
circumstances, was always attended with much

inconvenience ; and he always endeavoured,
when nothing was introduced into the Speech, or
the Address, of a. very provoking nature to Jet it
pass without discussion. -There was also another
reason which made -it al-ways des'rAble to avoid
entering into- discussion,' and that "was the chili-
,culty under which Gentlemen on .that side of the
House laboured in hearing the SpeeCh ,for the
first time, on the day on which they were call-
ed upon to give their opinions. Although he
did.not mean to trouble the House with an amend-
ment, he felt that he should forget his dtiti, if he
suffered the subject to pass without a few observa-
tions. Taking the Speech as a whole, Ire did riot

think that it tended to provoke discussion. He.
(Mr. Tierney) received with' great satisfaction
his. Majesty's assurance that. Foreign Powers
continued .to entertain friendly dispositions to-
wards this country ; and notwithstanding, the
state of Italy,, adverted to in the Speech, he, was
so firmly persuadenhat the stability "mid security
of the- country
;depended neon the contitMance
of peace, that' he should look forward to that pe-
riod which should again plunge this country isto
war with 'great dismay. • With this feeling, he
could not feel so much satisfactiaintt the next sen-
tence in the Speech, which -informed them that
his. Majesty observed with great concern the oc-'
currences which-had lately taken place in Italy,
but only expressed a hope that- they: Would'not
lead. to any inierruptimi- of tranquillity: This,
he was aware, was not a _time to. enter•into the
discussion of that question ; but ,he must say,
that Ministers, in his opinion, would not cio their
duty, if they stood by 'and did' not interfere' in
any act of-aggression which-a great Power might
attempt against a smaller one.. He hoped .Miniaterts
would exert their utmost to make known touther
powers their sentiments on thiS sub*t.:, flofore
he took leave of this topic, 6"could nor help.e.x.:-.
pressing. his surpriie that the -Govertiment of this':
country should think it itieCeuarY to :send •Art: ti
ulster to a meeting- of -SoVerei,,,ns Wh'o took_up.o4;
themselves -to summon 'other' Sovci.ii.,,us to.
conferences: When theSe events, however, sh.o. lAA
assume>a moreJrattliet'Mtaiie;•he wOuld take ot)-'
casion to express himself more fully with respect
to them. ilis Majesty's acknowledgment 'for
the manner,in which they..had provided for his
Civil List last year, he received as he always did,
with due reverence but he did think that these

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- thanks c ,me rather tardy. He did not think it
, .tivouid ',leen too much, had they been made at,
'the clos:. the last Pre thing spOke
for tse I .It .was not inconvenient. for .Ma-
. jety to ~...press at any. time the 11.c.ing
own b but it. was extre-nxely inconve-
nient 6 i this occasion for Ministers- to ireet
Parliaapynt. However, he coukt not see what
purpose they proposed. to.auswer by thelline. of
had pursued on, that - :Ile.
d f nne press this p9int any- further, because he.
...did 'not viish unnecessarily to provoke' discus-
observed with pleasure'that some ye-.
encti6nhad 'been, effected, in our military
h would have been
he.been fold to what 'e tent

`these had beet' made,"he was content to Wait till
, • •••• ; .•
the+ . as the Estimate bad been hid before
them.. .- The paragraph fe'llowing tliis did appear
• i.e.' him most
.extraordinary. lie had not con-
h;et-eie*(l " -It possible :that this most material itn,
priiVernent which wasannonehed in it -could haVe
U h 'er'ecte'd,
en., and he, could not. therefore fail of
beiag a little astonished, wheti he heard it from
such high authority.
...Vccerding t the Manner
in" understoOd the conintUnication, •
Re-venue of the. Present' year, end-
hilt. January, S 2 ; exceeded that of
•htlife
,year eitili-ng sth. -.l.leary; Many
. •
• piehhpleihould'attrilnite this -to the e. ec. of the
- ihree'reilliens of neW faxes, .whicf(happenect to
• --
Come- into operation durieg this periOd. For his
part, -.he Should state the matter 'thus :-There
-eve`rthree Millions Of new. taxes, the Whole of
.'whithhad come into operation during the. whole
• of the year ending sth „Tannery,
.1820, and only
dor:iog one quarter of the preceding year ; so that
L ire yaarters
_of what these taxes were expected
: eta prOdeco came to the-benefit of the subsequent
• year,.. Seeing. then. than.- these taxes •were ex-
' pectect •to produce . 3,200;0001. and that the
last year they had-. only :-yielded'2,9.oo,oool. he;
as Iplein man,. should say .that:-there .was a
C.,11a-its..offin the Revenue. The trutleof thii-would,
be.;more .apparent. on referriog to the articles
- of 'h6.ztsFrltitie9.o. He, could not help thhiking it
- quite unnecessary, in , the present , state of 'the
• ,ceuntry,-to be holdieg outsuch a regular -delusion
.as this was.. He was Sure the -collective sense
.of the -Noble. Lord and-his _colleagues, must tell
- them that although every man w-as bound :to
.::assist the Country--as far as-he. could,. it was al,
together nnprofitable to beholding out such
exaggerations. \.Vith- respect to the state-of the
.- ;manufacturing districts, was.ftware that some
rslight improvement had . taken place in some of
. ,thero,eand tlmt, what bad been called?disaffec-
tiatybut , was in ,reality.dietreg..3, was gone from.
• itleeha, #le
when,-the
enteremore largely into these
. -sobjeets, ecCounts came. fully before
- ,thein.He only thought it necessary to utake these
marks- then, lest any one should think that he
•alloeved. himself to be stultffied into a belief of
the assertion ,he, had alluded- to. If any stich
-there were, lie could assure them it was far other-
wiSe with him.- The' next topic referred to in
the .Speech was one of some delicacy--he meant
the. provision- for the Queen. On this subject
they were merely told, :it was. for them to take
the 'matter into their-consideration. Now, he
lad always understood that it belonged',to the
Crown-to:recommend.. •It was not for the House I
of Coimnons, but for the King, to point out fire
propriety, and his wish; that a provision, for any
branch of the Royal Family should be made,
and for Ministers to .propose the amount. -Of
course the Noble Lord,- or the Chancellor of
the Exchequer, would' tell them hereafter .what
sum- they thought suitable for. this purpose.
lie thought that this intimatton might have-been
made more graciously. Not that words would
have much weight, , but they would have , done
touch:towards putting an end to that ferment
which had convulsed the country for the last
twelve months. The communication would have
been intelligible bad the usual words,-" pecuniary
provision," been made use of ; but when they
- went Out of their way to talk about " arrange-
ments," people could not help feeliii.g• that there
might be something more in the expression than
met the ear. He saw with great satisfaction that part
of the Speech which related to the Addresses to
his Majesty, and it gave him heartfelt satis-;
faction that his Majesty was pleased .with
them. If, indeed, they could gratify any. one,
it' must he his Majesty ; for- they certainly
' shewed, that if the Addressers could feel-affec-
tion for any thing in the, shape of man, it mutt
be - for his Majesty. But it appeared that
these testimonials of .affection were not for his-
Majesty alone, but for his Government also.
NOw he should like any Member of the Govern:-
mcnt to point him out-the Address which said a
civil word in favour of any of theGentlemen•con-
• sleeted with his Majesty's Covernment. He Was
sure they were not too modest not to acknowledge
such marks of attention, had they been-
The great cry in getting up these Addresses had
been, " Now's the time to show your loyalty,'
now that blasphemy, sedition, and the liberty of
the prase are abroad." For his part, he never
had seen any thing of the kind prevalent in the
coontry, and yet these three topics were intro-
duced in-to all the Addresses to the Throne.—
The truth was', that all that , rankled in the
minds of the Ministers was, that. every class in
the elation was tired of them, and, earnestly de-
sired to get rid of them as fast as possible. At
the time of the last prorogation they wanted
two months for something, and it appeared that it
was to get up these Loyal Addresses: They felt
certain that there would be no plaCes for them if
• they kept that House open ; and they bad shewe
,their distaste for discussion even beyond that
- .1
-louse, for they had even directed every: Sheriff
in the country to avoid discussion as much as pos-
sible. He remembered when the Bill was brought
in, regulating the mode of petitioning, by regu-
larly convened meetings, it was urged in favour
of that innovation, that, the right of petitioning
would be maintained in great purity by it, as•peo-
ple would have an opportunity of exercising that
right under-the sanction and superintendence of a
di:milled and impartial officer. the fact, however,
ttehted out to be different, for when this dignified
and impartial officer was written beetle answered,
" Tou sha'nt meet at all." Notwithstanding this
device, however, it bad entirely failed; for Whig

or Tory, as had been exemplified on a late oc-
casion,- they had not succeeded -in any county in
makiog hold.their-tangnes.- -.The Loyal ,
nAddresses rig-ht contribute to- the_h4piness of
his Majesty, as he had been graciously-pleased to
inform them ; but that it should contribute to'
the advantage, the "credit, or the happiness-of:any
other individual in the country,he denied
Lord CASTLEREAGA'. began. obseriing that
he should not complain of, the ss.peech which
the Right Hon:..Gentlernan- had justmade,_
cause he, had Bona through_the matter very fa 411.;
fre:_ha.- (Leidy_ a few observations. to make, on
Some-of- Ella topics be. had adverted4o, ,he
would -dispose :of in as short'a time as- possible.
lie could assure the ,Right. Ron,- Gentleman
that he..was- glad to find, from.the speech.-which
he had just delivered,, that he had fallen into.er-
rOr: in the early part- of the evening, - ale was
glad. now. to. find, that they were likely to sepa-„
rate in good humOnr,, and they: might have gone
through the. business . of that evening in a more
dignified manner, if what had passed in the early
-pao of the evening had not taken place. With
reference to What had just fallen from the Right
Hon. Gentleman, he had to observe, _that it vas.
no reproach to the Speech from the Throne, that
there w... 1 no ,topic in it on which he could make
severe coannents. And. because the Speech had
not alluded to the state
,of ;the agricultural
in-
-terests, it was. not -to be inferretc,, as the Hon.
Member on,thethird bench (Mr. Curwen)sevmed
to hold, that hiS Majesty was ignOrant or insensi-
ble to the heavy distresses v,hich pressed on that
most important source pf our national' prosperity,
He was sure, that, if that Hononrable Member
would look at the-Speech, he would see no flis-
position to conce.-11 the fact, nor any; insensibility
to the inconvenience which must accrue. from the:
depression of that valuabfe class- of meti.---At thej
same time it was obvions`that this state of things
arose from some internal evil' .and not from any
law. The Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Tierney)
had called their attentidn to the leading para
graph in the Speech, and had 'stated the import-
anee of peace to the country in .as strong terms
as he (Lord Castlereagh) was.inclined to. state
it; and he rould assure the,Right Hon. Gentle-
man and the Howse, that so long as he could
maintain that peace consistently with thelionour•
and security ofthe country he should be the last
person to wish to disturb it. With respect to the
events Which had passed in that part of Europe
alluded to in the Speech, the Right Hon. Gentle-
man had said rightly that another moment would
come for discussing those- subjects. 'When they
did come, he (Lord Castlereagh) would be found
ready to give every explanation in his power: But
he lutist deprecate the notion broached by the
Right Hon. Gentleman, which he did not think
at all consistent with the anxious wish he express-
ed for the preservation of peace, that. that coun-
try should dictate 'what others should dO. lie

really thought, that if they wished to maintain tran-
quillity, they ought carefully to avoid 'shoving too
great a spirit of intermeddling with other Powers.
He did not know what right this nation had to
regulate all the affairs of the Continent, nor in
what consisted our superior power and wisdom to
dive iata the politics of. other Powers; which
must be the best judges of the most expedient
and just course to take, and to enforce our dicta-
tion when made. When the House came to see
what passed on the subject, he trusted thy would
find that his Majesty's Government had held
that language, and acted upon those principles
which had always directed their transactions
with. Foreign Powers, and which he hoped
would be found most conducive to the honour
and advantage of the nation. With respect to
the propriety of sending a British Minis-
ter to the deliberations of the Sovereigns,
it was deemed right to take that course, in
order that this Government might be made au-
thentically acquainted with all that was agitated,
and, to see that whatever course it' should
be proposed to take, was according to those
treaties which had been lately made, and
which had received the sanction of Parliament.
With respect 'to the Right Hon. Gentleman's ob-
servations on. the Revenue, he had rightly con=
eluded that the House would, on an early day,
have an opportunity of resuming that subject,
when a more clear explanation would be given
with respect to it. But as the course of the de-
bate would not be followed up, he would state
what his (Lord Castlereagh's) views were on that
subject. The Royal Speech stated, that not-
withstanding the defalcation of Ireland, the Re-
venue considerably exceeded what it was on the
preceding year ; and that, although this in some
measure was to be attributed to the new taxes,
there still. was a marked improvement. The Right
Hon. Gentleman, however, contended, that as
the new taxes were to cover 3,900,000/.,, and
have only produced 2400,000/. for the last year,
there must be a failing otr. But, in order to
know what the new taxes produced in reality;
it was necessary to look to what they produc-
ed in the preceding year, which would be found
to be 700,0001. which, added to 2,200,0001. made
nearly three millions, as arising out of the in-
crease of the Revenue connected with the new
taxes. The Right Honourable Gentleman saw
two distinct sources of depression,viz. the obstruc-
tion to the collection of the Revenue in Ireland,
and the -foreign trade. In Ireland there. was a
falling off of 600,0001. and in the Customs of, he
believed, between 6 and 700,000/. drawback.—
So that had these not happened, the- Revenue
would have increased four millions, from which,
deducting the new taxes, left a positive in-
crease of one million. The first part of the
last year the Revenue had commenced by
a falling off, but latterly it had got better,
and this year was much greater than the last.
If this, therefore, were to be taken as a criterion,
there was a proof of the assertion made in the
Royal Speech. With respect to the remarks of
the Right Hon. Gentleman' on that part of the
Speech which adverted to a provision for the
Queen, he had only to say, that if the Right
Hon. Gentleman understood himself, or could
convey to any oue else an apprehension that the
word arrangement meant any thing else than a
suitable pecuniary provision, Le could assure
thfm that no other meaning was meant to- be at-
tached to it. Although it might have been more

usual for the Crown to tecomMend generally, and
to 'leave it to Parliament-to. fix the sum, so long
as the,: sanae:,eud was, answered by the present
mode, 'he could_ see' no, substantial objection
to .be, made„,,to. He
,world ~take that, op-
portunity, to, give notice
_of his wish to be per-
mitted on Wedo,esday in , the 'ensuing. week,
to make
.a proposition ori,,tie'stibject ot• a suit-
able pecuniary provision for „the Queen: He
named Yi:,ednesday, as Moudayand TuesdaY,were
. •
,days over which that.house was' in the *habit of
a; jourisin.n. lie uld 'on that,,day make .a..pro-
position;:to :that-effect, and he -assured. the House
that he Ita.d bone other- with respectio her Ma-
,
jesty, te make "to -Parliament. With reference
to the. other subjects, to.which the Right. Hon..
Gentleman had -alluded, isejlad done so with so.
much good hit/limit,' that it .would be. very.-bad
taste' in
,(Lord C.) to
;touch upon them
at cal. He could assure the Right Honourable
Gentleman, that -if he Ithought the last pro..
•
rogation •of Parliament was made with, a view,
to evade discussion, he ;Was..much Mistaken,
Whates'er view'GpVernment had taken
,of the
subject, they had not attempted any conceal.;
.merit. If e '(Lord C.) had Clearly stated, and, he
had :even been
,Complained of by a Noble Lord
'on the :third bench, thatthe original adjournment
of that-House was regulated in conformance with,
and dependent cm, the proCeedings pending in
the other House, and conseqUently their subse-,
quest meeting and prorogation were equally re-
gulated by those proCeedings. With respect to
the, loyalty of. the country the RJit Honour.;
able. .4-entlernan could rot have-more Confidence:
than he (Lord Castlereagh) had. When there
was danger from the expression of one' set
of oPinions, fhe was sure it , was only ne-J
cessary to be distinctly understood that there
,was danger, that an opportunity should be sought
to express the opinionsef the loyal upon it. This
would show what the temper of the country was,,
and he well knew that no Minister woUld,ever
sliew-his face in that House, who had lost the
confidence of :the country.--(C,heers.)—He
could assure the.,Hon.-Gentleman who cheere:d,.
for himself and his Colleagues, tharas long as
they lidd not the confidence of their „Sovereign,
of that Douse, and of the Country, they mis-
took.-the' men they had to deal with, if they,
thoUght they would, continue to , conduct the
!affairs of r-the State. Bot so long as they
did possess these requisites, JlO taunts that
'the Right Hon. Gentleman could throw, either
persOnally or OtherwiSe, should tempt him to re-
tire. He felt nc reproach on thescoreof the Ad-
dresses to the Throne, of which so much had been
said, and he thought, it' was not a very judicious
reflection on the Gentlemen of this country to
assume that the Sheriffs were under the orders of
the Crown in all points. He foresaw. what the
observation on this' head which had fallen from
the Right Honourable
,Gentleman. pointed at ;
and although they appeared to be amicably
inclined that night, so Much so indeed, that the.
Right Honourable Gentleman *seemed to be
quite disturbed at the hire idea of his possess-
ing more influence in that House than any other
individual Member, he foresaw that they were
very shOrtly:to* be called upon to debate .the
einestion whether there should be a change of
Government or not.., That would be a very fair
question, and Hoped he would not be consi-,
dclu'ed presumptive in saying that he looked for-
ward with confidence to the support of the House,
whenever the Right Hon. Gentleman should feel
him Self 'timed to bring forward the subject. If
his friends should withdraw their support, that
would decide the qbestion, and lie would bow
with becoming humility to that decision. But,
as he Said before, he felt no distrust on this head.
Before he sat down; he must again express his
regret at what had passed in the early part of
the evening.
Lord ForAcsTIONE expressed himself provoked
at some of the latter parts of the speech of the
Noble Lord. Nor was he surprised at the little
apprehension which be, felt at the consequence
Of any appeal made to that House, for the re-
moval of him Self and his colleagues from office.
He had no hopes of the termination of their au-
thority,i, for so long as the Noble Lord wielded
the influence of the Crown; he was 'certain to en-
()y the 'confidence of the House, however ,he
might have lost that of the country. He dared
to say, indeed, that the means by which he ob-
tained it might be shewn in black and white ;
and that some Secretary of the Treasury might
he able to show sound reasons how it was done.
But after the events of the last three months,he
was astonished that the Noble Lord could speak
of having the voice of the country with him ;
after so many Meetings (and meetings never
were one tithe so numerous), at every one of
which; 'where public discussion was permitted,
Ministers were so completely defeated, how
could the Noble Lord suppose he had the
confidence of the people ? -It was true there
had been loyal Addresses by scores sent up ;
but even these, though voted in secret, had not
ventured, as his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Tierney)
had .well observed, to say one word in favour of
Ministers. If his Majesty, therefore, was satis-
fied with-these Addresses, as Ministers had put
in his mouth, it must be because he did not know
the mode in which they were procured. He
could but be informed of those which the Home
Secretary chose to think fit for his perusal. This
Secretary, who took upon himself the task of
presenting some and rejecting others, as uncon-
stitutional, who published them or not, just as he
approved or disapproved, it was evident gave his
Majesty only one view of the subject. Ile differed
from the Noble Lord opposite in the view which
he took of what was proper to be contained in a
Speech from the Throne. In his opinion the Speech
ought to be a general view of the state of the Coun-
try, and not, like the precedents of late years,
be mere milk and water. All this arose from an
innovation which occurred in the reign of Queen
Anne. Previously the Speech was made, and Par-
liament adjourned for some days to consider. what
answer they should give to the Crown. He pre-
ferred this course to the present, which allowed
them no opportunity for consideration, and
as that was the case, threw out no topics to
challenge remark: He then complained of the
manner of the late Prorogation; Without a word

of thanks to the Commons for the .tippis'
they had granted, a supply unexampled at the
commencement of anyformer reign. lie..denied
the Understanding' assumed in'this`-respect by the
Noble Loid, and 'at any rate contended-that it •
ought to have been done in another way. Re-
turning to the Speech, he agreed with MI
.11on.
Member (61r. Curwen), that the•Ornission of any
allusion to the agricultural distress was an in-
propriety; and.pot _Tay. that, but theniention of
all the other distresses of the country was su pprehs-
ed. He then ad verted to the re burrito cash payments
as a. sine' qua non, and asserted that this could not
be done wii.hout an alteration in the gold stand-
ard. Had Ministers any plan for settling these
c: or ivith respect to the Poor Laws,
which, were cunfessecl by all to stand,in need of
immediate -revision. .:The statement of all.these
things'ought. to have- appeared in this expose.
Something,
.too, ought to have been said of
,agitation into- which the measures of Ministers

had thiown the country with respect to the Queen .1
From their not doing so, he was afraid they would
contipue to do so' till they had driven the people
to distraction: And he doubted not they would
still have the same majority in that _Rouse to ha-
rass the people.
WonEnousr. ob-served upon the taunts
thrown • out -against those who, signed the
loyal. Addresses, that, they could hot even thus
manifest their attachment to the Throne without
being sligmatized as servile dependants upon a
wicked Government. This opinion• was indus-
triously propagated by opponents. lie would
ask if such misrepresentations could be tolerated
in any country ? Some persons said that we lived
under a tyranny, others that we enjoyed freedom;
this was a difference of opinion which he would
not take upon himself to decide, liut he would
say that those who maintained' the latter had
a right to express their •sentiments:---(Bear,.
hear, hear!)—And who were those who denied
them among-, the Gentlemen opposite? WhY,-
the very advocates for the freedom of opinion,
all over the world. But, if men of his way of

thinking ventured to express their opinions they
were called dogs, dung-hill dogs, hole-and'-cor-.
ner then,—these were the phrases, and these
were applied to them for supporting that Con-
stitution which the Gentlemen opposite so often
said they were ready to lay down their lives to
support.—(llear, hear!)—As forhole and corner
work, he would go-into any: corner to declare his
sentiments. It was the power of expressing his
opinions that was valuable to a Briton, and not
the applause of a 'tumultuous body whiCh might
hear
Lord FOLKSTONE explained.
BATHUIV.T defended the I-Tome Secretary against
the charge, founded on the. Address from Langholin, but the
twice made by Members leaving the House rendvred what 'le
said inaudible in the Gallery.
Mr:WAILItE impugned the Noble Lord's conduct in tleis
The questiOn on the Address was then put, and carries!
with Out Opposition.
On the motion of SirJOHN :94.:Wg011T, certain .‘ecounts
relative to the Irish StOelis, &e. were ordered to he laid be-

fore the House. •.
Mr. I,I.T.SHINGTON- gave several notices of
.the usual bu-
siness for to-inovrow ; and, on the inotion.of Luca CA:iTLE-
REAGH,. Use House adjourned.

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