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lateral et hd sarsidiat f4orie of thedi,,ijiiities ,44
proposed to be removed were to he found an"l
the securities taken for the Protestant Religion%
the Revolution. The Noble and Learned I.l°-;r';
had strongly stated that nothing Could WV's":
him ; but it was with the most unaffected- sdra
hrise that he had heard a Lawyer of high "enl:
ence say, that this Law of Charles 11• ws""
an act of deliberative wisdom andprospeclive
Cattd
tion to guard the Cr.ustitution. It was notorn3"
that the origin, of the law. was the plots of °3l,r
and Bedloe, which no human being now believed'
Oo such a foundation rested this act of delibel
rr
live wisdom and prospective caution !--(a
These laws had passed before the Reeolution,'l,,
had had their origin. in plots, which a L'Ord
the first bench (the Bishop of Norwicb).had jnst;
ly characterized as diabolical artifices to imp
upon their Lordsltips. These laws were etn're
-1)4,0, and additions were made to them atter
Revolution; There was a law to disqualify Cs'
tholics from. voting at the elect ion- Membrerl
of Parliament, and the Ist of Geo. I. disqua; acc
them,from holding any offiee or place of I°sf'
civil or reil:tury. 'The. reasons for such inea;
sores were, that a Prince expelled from •
Throne was attached to the Catholic
that that attachment ' had been the ca"sere-c
his invasion of the rights of the people i "'al(
he wassopp.orted byt rearonmbeN ar home, •
Only 'of the Catholic but of the Pr..testa9l
;ion, and that he %vas received and s'iipporte'
l It
the greatest Catholic Power on the Copt
remPiioed that 'he Should reply to the a"Oaell'',lt
that it was into-ssihle for the King to distittr'"r''his
between spiritual and temporal obedienee• tv y
common law of the country, prvinusly
of Ilktary VIII , required obedience to to 4
King this common law Wa a the grOwli ofCatiAlu.to
times —{Hear !)—But in the oath prescribe' .01
Roman Ca:llOlics, by ,t be Act of 1793, the'.e;iwal
the. distinction cleat ly Made bete; een 51"r.116
and temporal-obedience. But this argon-ten' 71;
plied, as bad 'been Shown on a former occaoto
to an eloquent and able speech by a 1\1:•,•01,
'Lord, whoiti ''he now' saw opposite t°
wish equal 'force to' a Catholic G,sverurnety-14,
Allusion had been made by the Noble Lord "'.to•j,
conduct of the Catholics at' a subservient Per' it,
during the attempts of the Pretender. it °"ilar
however, to be borne in mind, that the partie"oe •
.circumstances of the times, which had beet' Apd.
cause of that misconduct, no. loner eldslea'
ermseqoently the danger was nu longer to be
prehended. The Noble Lord bad .next allude c,
the Articles ofAlie Union, in support of IheAla
trine of exclusion'i; and eertainly when the L'").,.
Lord cited the Union with Ireland 4or tiq.t
pose, he (Lord GreY) ionhi not help expre,°Act,
his,surprise. Waa 'there ape' word in that 'be
'which sanctioned the permanent exclusion
'ROman Catholic.'s•?—(llear, hear !)-1•10""lift
trpOti film to say, that it did noecOotain one
to ittitify such- Itn•aexclusiotr.--7(lF?ar.
j
tld'ered,- if he read the Pact, rightly, it 'to
nisbeil groands for a contrary inference.•
some remarks' on the impotiey'of the restrictiosi3O
and on the object of the fireet,t mi:ptio"r
Noble" Lord, attudin, 'We befleve, to. -I"'i
g
Dunstanyille, said, that w-henever this 'l';`,s`,3C
had been discussed, he had aiways eviticed rt
moderation and liberality, and had not ill'Patti, 4:
1.
the CathOlies any doctrines of an immoral °ty po
tfe'remerabered well that on a' fotmer
the :NobleLord stated, that althooell tbe•o'o•
erotica believed its traisubstantintiori„in 1
tbe.!bcse
`,articles-of
of saints,' and in the sacrifice' of otasl'„o7
.artiles"of belief could constitute no, o'hi'ell°l",,.i,i•
tsheir ej (I°rtroyi.:g the same civil rights as-thri wet
•iestatit'fellOW-subFets.' If, then'these Csit'
were no proof of , allegiance to a forei4"Act?
Prernacy; why continue the Declaration che°
'When a Catholic came forward, to I°,l;,e•be:'
oath, he was made to swear that-
lieied these doctrines to be sopetsriti°`rst,ii{,►
idolatrous ; but whystiould he he called a° ?
when it could au' no purpose o°l'
inach
The qoeStion as to the Catholies was IlosT elie4
narrower!, and their Lordships ought (" r
themselves from the impropriety of the Pe` i 1
tion Oath. It bad been stated to their ,15
and Doctor Milner latl been, referrea l° Ca'
proof of the statement, that the Itotni'lldir°
thotiCs were actuated by a 'lcoe
which would never be •satis.fied wi b •1nY,.....,0ac
cessions that could be made to 001'7 oftdil
what' Would their Lord Ships say; when they oh?'
told that this was the spirit of Dr. Milner
and that he had excited that tnrbolent ',
which was called the diabolical spirit of tirii pot
tholics 1 The Statement of Dr. Miloer e°" roeo
do any good to the 'notion, and he must Pot
against' its being considered as any arg"""0:01,
legislating on the question. He eirged tbei;; co",f
and jusiice of ptoceeding, immediately!" 1, tbe'i
sideration of the subject ; and. contur•er ot.
Lordships to look to the increasing •
America, brought forward at least a eentooree
the impolitic conduct of this country, a°(l esrancl
dangering our' trade and commerce; to xr
desirous to avenge the insults offered to be.ci, 06(
to, the . load of debt and taxes under while 00C
O;tor .country was at present groaning, tol°.
erculation was acknowledged by Parliaule'a
depreCiated. Ireland was undoubtedly in 000:
bid state, owing to a long series of till oa►lid be
went. • nich perseverance and patience 01;refOr;
necessary to effect a radical cure ; and..teitiatori,
it:w4l;.llAat- as a: centraiineiniiitt of On
and ret»edral measure's, he cordially agr'''e‘• y 1"g
the proposition this night brought:Moterd
Noble Friend. • vb5V
at '•
The 'arl of LiVERPOOL contended, 115 preythe
ever colour 'vas attempted to be give" -at it `•
sent question, or under whatever tispee`
of Co;
brought forward, still the free admission o e
t
tholics to all places. of power or emol"
tirne ole°'
‘,le
,hAt WAS sought by the ~‘f
vas advocates t l
ao
sure., This, and not any minor p0i11',4.35 00j
principle upon which the question tot
brought for,vard, and it ,now PPe‘,ll.C4' (► Plato;
in^.in Substance of the propUsition tds oto
Catholics upon an equality with, Plater foirP,l
every respect. If there were oil ,eer";tcs
then why were they not Melo ?hut
there were not, and it was t ecause tbat .C'''orer
excluded ;root Parliament', the Vri:Ye. sto%,
61, and certain important offices juUt
doer 6'
their chiiinO were Dow brong,ht