The Sun.
London, England, 1817-03-13 00:00:00

WINDOW TAX.

Mr. LUSHINGTON obtained leace to bring in
Bill to regidate the Tax. on shop windOws and
Warehooses.,

General GAsCoiGNE presented a Petition from
Liverpool against the Window 'fax 014 Ware-
iwasxs. lie was understood to inquire whether
any sacra woUld be adopted to telieve Omit Who
bad becn assessed to that tax ?

'The CHANC;:I:I.OR of the FaCtIEQUER Stated,
that his Right Honourable Friend (Yfr..,Lush-
ington), had just given notice of a motion to
attain that object.
Lord STANLEY Wished to knowe whether there
was any intention of relieving those r‘bo had al-
ready wrongly been called ilium to pay the Tax ?
The CHANCEDLott of the EXCNEQUvii was un-
derstood to say, that if any individual had paid
more than he ought, there would be no difficulty
its relieving
The Petition ,was then read, and laid on the
table.

LIVERPOOL PETITION.

Lord SPA,ToN presented a petition from the

habitants of Liverpool and its vicinity. The
meeting at which it had been agreed, had not been
called together by a legal authority, but this was
occasioned by the conduct of the MayOr,
refused to comply with a requisition, signed most
respectably, and had thus hterposed.a most tan-
jnotifiable obsttnetion between the communica-

lions of the people and the House. The people
had then h►+d,tecoursc to meeting in the square ;
the assembly hail been most numerous, and a most
respectable Magistrate, well known to the House
(we believe the Noble Lor►l named Col. Williams),
had been called to the Chair. Meanwhile the•
milit:►ry had been: called not; Hs well as a regime'nt

Of yeomanry cavalry. The petition had been
signed 4.14,000 persons, who were of 11 most
respectable description. Atter stating the grievous
sufferings-which they endured, and which they
attriboted to ir series of unjuSt wars; a lavish ex-
peddithre if the public money, the creation of
useless places, law salaries, and the otaiatrouhee
at sitkeehres,' they threw themselves no the wis-
dom of the House, avid prayed for a radical but u
constitutional reform. It Sid not belong to hint
to say why he hod been selected to present this
petition, instead of the usual channel, the Re-

presentatives of the place ; but he felt himself
honoured ,by the trust, and executed it with plea..
sure, as the.prayur of the petition was for that
kind of reform with which he entirely concurred,
and not for wild and impracticable theories: He
then moved that the petition be brought up.
Mr. BIRCH seconded the motion. He had been
requested by tdie Meeting to support their petition,
and did it with satisfaction. He held in his hand
a list of the names of those who had signed Abe
requisition to the Mayor, and there were not, in
or out of the 'Haase, men of greater worth or in-
t egrit y , and:ntore devoted to the welfare of their
country. Some of them were also amongst the
most. opulent, and moving in the .iifst rank in
that county.

141r,1181450N defended the character orthe Mayor
of Liverpool, who, alarmed at the many out-
rages which had taken pl.lee on former occasions
i*ttliat town, had refused to give lti, sanction to
Gikttliist mewing. His fears had been such, that
Irtietati. thought it necessary to•call out a ',regiment
man troop of cavalry. He had only
risen• to defend, • from an: 'unjugt attack, a- re.
spectalthr individual who felt no' disposition to
stand between the communications of the, people
and the House. •

Mr. thac<ti hoped the lion. Geutleman would
specify some of the numerous outrages which he
had mentioned, and of . which he (Mr.'“,) had
never heard before.

litntl COCHRANE said, that of all the Meetings
,vhich he inn! witnessed, he bad nomr s,4*n so
nuch irregularity and disorder as in the one which
gad taken place yest eras)* itt Hanysliire..3—(MV,
tear! and laughter !)—Thet e nearly the whole of
lie Parsons of the county had been collected—
(Laughter !)—and the most violent noise had

prevailed. the Meeting.had'beeu culled together
to give the peivie Hampshire an opportunity
of addresting the Prince Regent on the gross
outrage offered to his person. But no individual
was allowed to express 1.1:8 opinions, iiS all loyal
subjects bad a right to do—(Laughter!)—and
the most marked determination was shown to
prevent any thing, contrary to the sentiments of
the Proposers of the'Address front being heard.
They hail even so hurried their object that they
bad dissolved the meeting• Without having provid-
ed any mode far presenting their Address, or re•
turned thanks to the Sheriff. The Gentlemen of
the Choral, he. Was sorprtsed to-see, had been
the chief ringleaders of the tumult.-,--(Laugt,ter.)
Lot d Frrzt(Mittis defended the conduct of the
Meeting, which' represented as most respect-
able, and stated that live to one of those nho
composed it had been in favoot of the Address.

'Mr: iiittitfGltß3l wished Gentleman op-
posite to' establish his gratuitous assiimption.!hat
the people of Liverpool hall- committed repeated
and notorious outrages. lie trusted that particu-
lars would he stated, as this was the first time
that he bad heard of such outrages.
Mr. tiEtcsost had spoken from liersonal knoW-

• • • •
It fge of the twnisit4 whl l haul talicn plaice At
he inemiby of the 11o:10114%1We and
Letrued Member nt:t,t heAcry. short, fur Lc (Alt,
II) had never seen tvotse mobs in Liverpool than,
whets that lion. anti Learned Nlember had the ho-.
hour of heading them. Ht heen calleti.upon
to state when and where he had Witnessed thOsc
oittrages. lie had MIA, done so, and he hoped
the Gctvieffiati would he satisfied.
Mr. littouethAm would not tell the flon.Gentle-
man whether he was SAi'isfiOor not, but he would
call upon thellon: iNlvinbet for LiVerpool to ne-
gative the its-,ettionS which had beet made (.is he
knew that he would not state otherwise' in the
House than- lie had spoken out of it), that he
(Mr. B ) hall headed mischievous mobs.
lieNsot.t culled to order ; he had not. said
that the lion. awl Learned Member had been en-,
gaged with mischieroos

Mr. BROUGJIAM said, that _there was a way of
imputing mischievons tiesigns, withotit charging
in direct terms with mischief. He' now called
again on the Hon. Member tor Liverpool to de
elate whether he had ever headed mischievolis
mobs. Never, on the 'Contrary, had an election
contest been carried on with such ,quiet and tran-
quillity front the b.tginning ti.) the entl..Bo-marked
had been its nature, that it tiros a phsase used by
all the candidates at its close, that instead of a po—
litical contest it seemed more like a peaceful pa-
geant. As to the shortness of Isis memory, he had
seen the lion. Gentleman opposite on the hustings
at the time of Ilse election ; and after the expla-
nations (sir which he now called, the House would
be able to decide as to the gooducss-of their re-
spect ive Mmories.
General CiVICOIGNR COllfirilled all that had been
said by the Hon. and -Learned Gentleman. He
had seen many election contests; but for the lust
twenty years be did not recollect one that had
been attended with less outrage than that in which
the Him. and Learned Gentleman had been en-
gaged at• Liverpool, Never had more unanimous
etfortN been madeonall'sides to prevent: disturb-
oure, and if any ittstittlt showed itself it Was of so
short a duration, thAt it could scarcely he. said to
have existed ht fore it was put slows,. In justice
to the Host. timid Learned Gentleman, he must also
state,' that he recollected how all partie3 had ett,
pressed their mutual satisfaction at the trantoil.,
lit- which had prevailed.'
Mr. CMCNIiiO thought it fair to. state, that in
the contest in which the Hon. and Learned Mem-
ber and himself had stood opposed to each other,
nothing had been omitted on either side to repress
the least tendency to outrage, and daring the
greater part of the Election, their efforts had
been generally sticcessl4. lie thought the Hon.
Member behind isint, must have confOsintid the
last election with that which bud preceded it, nail'
the first three or four days of which had been a
scene of complete coninsiOn aml violence, itki to
the petition itself, he should not appose it. fle
was glad that it was described as the petition. of
the inhabitants, and not of the lost' n.of Liverpool,
as otherwise a question might have been raised on
the subject. Ue had received many
.accounts
the manlier in which signatures bud been proeur-
-4 wish hhe would have passed over in silence,
bad it not been for the anthority from Which'
they Cimie, and the Wish- which had: been
expressed that they should be mentioned to
the Honse. He had been told that great: nom-
hers of the fair sex had been.gOod. enough to add
their sienatitees to the petition, as well as many
of a tender age. Ile did not wish out, that account
that it shonld be rjeeted, but on the Contrary
that it should be received with neenliar indulgence.
—(Laught er.) -7-At a time when the doctrine of
Universal suffrage was so widely spread, the fair
tux had' certainly a right to claim their share of
the privilege.--(Laughter.)
Mr, IIIiOUGHAII thought it possible 'that the
Hon. Gentlethan (Mr. Benson) might have 'con-
founded the last election with the one beforv) butt
how did he happen to make Biro the head of the
molts; at a time when he had not even been at
Liver pool

Mr. BeNSON had never seen greeter mobs in
the square therOvben the Hon. and. Learned
Gentleman had:licaded them. lint he would 're-
peat now what be had. said before, that he— did
not mean mischievous mobs. His sole objet had
been to justify tire conduct of 'tlte iVlayor, iu
guarding lest outragei should he committed by
the mobs which proceeded out of the square.
Mr. liitouGnAst said, that as it now appeared,
the Hon. Member lied only Meant to say that
most numerous mobs had ranged themselves ntt
his side when lie stood a candidate for the,repte.
SCIIINtiOII of their city, he was exactly of the same
opinion.

Mr, CuatveN, complained, that attempts were
made, in every part of the country, to prejudge
the people, and to charge them with a disposition
to commit riot.

The petition was t ben 'brought op and read. On
the question that it lie on the table,
Lord'SitProx contended' that the information
which he had received••respecting the aotbors of
the petition, was as correct as that of the Right
HMI. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Canning). As to
the Mayor of 'Liverpool, he had no personal ac-
quaintance with hint ; but he thought that he had
given proofs of a wish to pre:vent the communi-
cations of the people with the House.
General GASI4bIGNE stated, that as far as be
knew of the .Mantes affixed to the petition, t.l-ey,,
were respectable.- It was not astonishing, hokyH
ever, that 14,000 out of a population of 120,000;
inhabitants should differ front the majority. The,
numbers who hail signed were only b$ one to leo,
and he drought that in opinions the samepropot-
tion provailed.
The petition was then ordered to lie on the
table,

COLD BATH FIELDs.
Mr. BEN N moved for returns of the nionher
of persons now its confinement in the HOose of
Correction, in Cold Bath Fields, tinder the 3911 t and 40th of the King; He !het) referred to 'shat
he had stated on a further Occasion, relative to the;
-persons confined for High Treason in Cold Bath
Fitids'Prison. He had not received his informa:.
tkill frolll the parties themselves, hot from 10)0)61
'city which he could not doubt.
had since. -
sited the 'prisoners,'tind-fonnd thern'preeketi.v i
tt
'he state which be had described to Or

Old RViane _ _ n

,e n;i've

the character I.vii:elt ho
teas placed in t!ie. Find
B. RATHUUNT Coulphine.ltitatribt
the iiresent motion had
.been girth
fientien", fie should hare no objec.a:
ever, to itrnduce accounts of the iiamb.er
*soils stow in confineinent in Cold 113t13,'
There were several I .unaiics aitinao ts
%tootl in it d fferent situation. 'll4‘,'
fined tinder a Statute which retilired,
to take up Lunatics, or those trout 01
was opiweliended from stipunied too
Ti.e subject:had engaged theattentt"'
nient, and every pains. would tie Latt
best manner of disposing of
legations of the lion. Gentlenot',;
parties in Cold, Bath fields,
Gentleman hat! carried his catiilo.lll,
stated, Since he had seen thetas wh
not told him that they bad no cow
The elder Evans bad heen stidileul
that prison. tic now occupied '
Which communicated
with (oar
where the Hon. Member might
ranged with him. On the fiot
funement that room bad been °c‘
son of the description alitided
ItOrt• The next day the keeper
told hit) that that person
with him, and that he should
this Evans had replied, that I
decent and respectable man, tit
patty, anti Kisheci him to it
like the case which the 11
stated He. had also said, ti
in .the foul ward, but he.wr
able Member. whether lie II
snore clean 'and in better et
who must be confined ? 'lt
Called the Infirmary, but it
such at present, and preseu
dation which the prison co'
no other patient in the witt
and all he had was a conipl
Evans had also the accom
often as he wished, and
permission several hours
own -garden, that lig tttig
with the o: her pi-hinters
been removed front T.,1
Fields prison, because i
idea ft,' the mother to.
in the same' place, and
opportunity every day.
jected to his coinpani
immediately, and it I
for 'less aceommodatiot
•Mr. I3ENNETT tVg!
stated. lie littd ticv
All that he isa4 s,ti+l
with *it Corlittioll litit
wiser
the
he isad seen
he let
proper
tet cowl
tpersons:lr.)a%t• kt‘il.l:sijuilt:e:ll3l.dk
"Man 11t t
pronounced it in,
cased 'of high trt.
'the ATTORNEY
EVIIIIS COlllllll4iii,
declared that if 1
with leis father,
that as heeotild
io.the next best
311.ese were his
Aftera- few 4
C. IV.. Altiv sr NE
1,0111 BINS!
mule confined
sPited, that t'
be inquired in
Sir e. .bua
the, kind to w
bronglit belt)
eeetting_ was
into the fact
House trust
reports of c
appeared ti
Oily, and I
allowed to'
fined in thi
These pen
to commo
inUnicate
but with
really tva,
She l'CrOio'
be equall
continual
jail, us (
t Lerefori
ideation
reason
fin tine'
Mr.
Mr.
which
the,•Eli
so-car
as it
,whost
:think
Flom
latet!
lion
Hoe
that
tali'
Pte
ou
'H
111
t 1

. .
• .
•
:•lilo,l, Mai that of a prisoner,' vrbb, cm".
to ,ulitary confinement, bail made a sort
paition of 0 spider in his cell, which, when
the poke destroyed. What now ap.:
b.e titeCtels of the c(te '? So far from any
It, tire prisoner, at his own request, urns
the company of another ; and the Hon.
cotoplaint now was, that he was al-
enjoy thatsociety,—(Hear,hear, hear !)
ie Hitn• Oditleman (Mr. Bennett) now
that lie should he deprived of that
society, and if so, let the House and
;us recollect, that it was the Hon. Gentle._
r.-13nnietr) who destroyed his spider.—
Tar, acid a laugh.)
,atioa tilts then agreed to.
TIIE SIX HUNDRED PETrrioN,L
l'wHoßils having mowed the Order oi` the
tes,mting the adjourned debate on the Pe -
I:hich lie had presented,
AlAtttit, with the leave of the House,
:4',"sl3FY to state, that he had caused
Petitions to be assorted, and chilisrd
lit their form and contents.—The total'
tithe Petitions Wil% 527. Of these, there
14 Which no name at all was subscribed
tutee two to which no name was sub-
the same %beet On which the Peat 10113
dim. There were 28 iu the same lan-
ql copies from the same foi'm, which the,
Plreatly rejected-468 were!Pri"l"
Of the (emaining ''S, there were I
im4itAg,e'witlt the. Petition from Hit-
:it the douse had rejected—four were in
f another Petition, which the House
this Session, and thirteen in various
'hi 'be'
On the the first question to he
to the Petition to which no
'll)%cribed, and as to it, the questlo"
to ut. to the House w"s, th3t
tit without any name affixed to it should
.0(1,

ile observed, that unless die
i; "armlet would .press tide question, or
!I,Mtion, it would be better to pass over
"ice a Poitiou to which no name wa,

e •
i•PRKEH..--Tlic next question to be pit!
kit 1., jeM te) the two Petitions to ‘vhieli there
Nfn
nt
‘re,i
tire on the sae slue( on which the
3 written.
tollte 451LRIIRAGII Said, that as the House hall
,
:1411,11.. Positive decision on Petitions of this
treat.,;(l in the saint &banner
:i tl/44
(b 4Katt.--The next question to be Pt,l
141riti(41
t" be 8 iftlitions Lind Hi to these' Lie
I
that they do e t I
tOtet(-..1 -4
1114 Tpiestiutonis, the debate was'li to"" be re-

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Pc-
nut said,. that the ohjecti.°,? l'l'oose
out with saying that t."_':
Was
so
ivay represent the, peoPic
that the
'aa g°ing as far as. to st,ywhich
lot...receive any Petition
.011
of the
inn in the repieset.ltait:ii already
igoation of the Chair `l",,.,___ anti
at those practices of bribery
Ile elo.:tion of Members to "pre-
ht that I-
' fiinei Only suspeefed; but in our
fully exposed. (tut on lie
same,
wou d d 1
of
lictate the rejection
1 ieb• he
contained the words
to "P,,nveYed
.itiniadversion would be conveyed
had expressed indignation
to eiirrtipt practices.
.:irds
not
Othersat
017-
..)etitions, as Containing •
n tevances
r 4 ni/ il the statement of tit'" itisam that.
r . ''tit to; e
-4''y itor,i i i Wilt prayed, and it was
for the
tYche.,o.'4.a 41 been in•iodoced merelycould
ti 4-4 "4111 ting the Flonse.--if thisisci SC
*l4l u‘ I.:, 'o', lie alio red it to ht! a , more
he
,!'",1e;1,1 id'e..‘l than the other; and yet,,
on'.
%.4fletl tt
!Cei if
11t h'4l'lle Petitions which ;led
-,'l'atin,'„-,l',.°lljectionable words also cont"'ve.
1,1414 -.2 ni real grieVilleeSrtliat part of the t
Itilktol,.l),lieli slated these grievances ought 'no )
reteet-
i". 11,' 4 a eillSe, til b' overlooked anti •
i he felt
irliiii,t,i'"olol.4iiie:l of 1 1:e difficult y-vvb ell n
ant
'll4taie.4lll4 the [louse on .1 his-subject., frot.
c.
"041,
4?" t'a account of the variety•of I tie '°ute
~
~itltitilliimWillt poiat, he might to direct his °"'''''
tit 1",,°"141 'ittention oi, the flionse• At any
•Icaliii 'lltril hihl , omit the. House
,i, ,stat,
~, r, y necessary • ,
__
._ be
apt in 1,
,*,ntie. role as.to the hinguage.
.1"
t5l„ etittnas s
enable
lii
~ ,ritiii..
~ , 4) as to .
~. find
'tir w, , ilitlV Cllyluillt9 that they might ,41.(?,.1; the Lible of the lltttl§e•
i to, the
::tlitiottl. `‘l'ls%l,, said', that the oltieetmn ' f
.111til' 41 W 'ls Iltitt the Petitioners went out°
tart illYi 11)11 bruit/Ott into their Petitions irrer.
iilrt "ier. for the express purose °t Casting
41 kil ii, Still itlSltitS 'Tull the House. • ne- read,
Ivilith I_llaliee, that part of one of the Petitions
jKittritplled the debates in the Ilouse tetliotis,
t4ifietitje4t, '4,411(1 disg,witing. Alitter more clearly
I,!4,llea't,t!,e Loold- not -be „conceived. —Het!!!
' kit 1 "'what the Iloilo')
11„-i tto , .
ra,ble Baronet. (Sir
. I ia• 't(lntred as to the House prescribing
111' ih" uf 1 ~,,,
.41 th,, " „„,..age, 0, "alio, in some rule
ill'l4 islittge.woultl It h. . e'bi►• it was ilt"
vit . t t
,_
ems.
_.e 0, jection? i•, ,
that
v 1 4,4tiiitliii;lins:
,ti1.1,61,11.ti 'Fol. ti:lineal'ilynTt.st 'el etlvaelli yPlMl:nes'sili):lle
I,„is.', lit ,h,..e..t.4:.ittoirElbea, or sentiments . kt‘ Itti'sie
.‘,ll:ilitkixe 411"ec:a(1, tOs
cast `'s absurd. The ho 1
Nil Itr the Esvti;,h ease as it came before it,
t,iiii3Of 'grievithetel )11 coiltitilieti a, bona Jude expre -
(),,qtkt to the Lk!, or contained any matter in -
11,e'e,',41ettatirltp. `.l.'",e. Thete were various shales.
titeli:',4uanee
of 'illrta he made in offensive terms,
li,tit;lttat,, iLit`ll:l9lvitinight he, stated withtint
t 3
411.1,(41 :1% ,tainiii- house must consider every
it.
1 :'ta'lce
1g
by
itself as In its language,
It. k,, ti, . and all the cirsunastanees attentling
.t,. ,itre an
Slittsil'qtt'l rh an nil
Court of velitch it could
Ns,. -all'esehed." It wool(' sit. and bear its con-
li 'We terms anti objected to in the grossest
14t alO 4/4 Of, iibiki: ?. W.
inns
14)11f) e pmt ft". Pttit.o diS It not natol
111 tl ulet tiraw„ I" 11 h
ad
_eel) advisedly and
Itt,,,i, t" 1 copies
(~. ."P in the particular terms,
o„ll.'lierftii „ititistr't it bad been circulated with
tfil,il,%tven the
~,Y to (11 purrs of the kiAg-
mi,(l:g eire,opilel7st remote 'Were not the
tir,t
,"i'l '4 reetittiniel'i►l ac.companied by a communi-
tlett).tted,h,
tic frOU) a society, he cold('
tilt ti 14 at le4t ite 'l"n, Baronet (Sir P. Bur-
-I)4lll.4toattii,B:llPe'l with a fac-simile of
"'II 4tigte ? If the house were

in- any Case td relax its rules., it ouglit
the, petitioners inteodednot to insult the !louse,'
.acrd. not ;in a case, like t'ae present,. where the
tern were purposely and carefully' selected,
thos'e which were thought Worse than the• House
could possibly. tolerate.—(Hear, hear, hear
If the House were.to attempt t any such Cuing as
to lay down a rule as to the language and words
which it should consider ohjectionable, it would
only give those persons' an opportunity of choos-
ing words by which any sneh rule might he
evaded, anil then, they would come to (he House
With language quite as,•offetisive, or more so, and
say that it was not within the rule.—(llear, hear,'
hear !)-7,—00 the whole, As it appealed to he the
duty of the House to maitultio its dignity, aud to
stand by those rules which their forefohers had.
observed, be thought it would not he enough
simply to negative the motion, but that the House
should mark its iodignation at such conduct ; and
Ice therefore moved, as an amendment, " that
these Petitions be rejected." •
Lord COCHRANE submitted that the Hon.MCIII-
- (Mr. Wynne) should state particularly what
the words were which, when contained in a Pe-
tition, would made, the noose reject it ; and
whets this was once stated, then it would be time
enough for the House to express its indignation
if the language so declared objectionable was re-
peated. The Noble Lind then► said, that the
House had deceived :1•:.); expectations of the peo-
ple, by adopting measures to suspend their liher-
ties,,instead of attending to their gt ievances. He
maintained in the face of Ministers, of the House,
and of the Country, that there had been no, riot
or distiohance to justify the measures resorted to,
but that a mere clamour ant', alarm had been ex-
cited to rally the men of property in the country
round the Ministers, by working out the fears of
those„who'had weak and feminine nerves.—(A
inugh.)—The only plot was between the Miuis-
tors. and the dealers in paper-money—they were
the Spenceans, and the landed proprietors would
be their victims.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL animadverted on the
most extraordinary speech of the Noble Lord
(Cochrane). It seemed, unless some strange fraud
had been practiced, that so far front the Consti-
tution'being Suspended, to-morrow tloire was to
be a meeting, of the inhabitants of -IVestrniuster,
to petition' ot the dismissal of his Majetsty's Mi-
tristers.—(A laugh.)When the Noble Lord said
there was no riot to justify'the pleasures' which
the Legislature had adopted; it seemed as it the.
Noble.. Lord• had just. come from some distant
country, and was ignorant of all that had hap-
pened here. The question before time Ilmi•e
writs,-whet,her it was to permit language of a na-
ture soittsuLing, that the endurance of it must
degradelbent. in the eyes of the country. He
shoUld thetefore giee'his most hearty vote for the
amentlinent.

Mr.IIIAUTIN thollgitt it mini(' he better merely
to negative the motion, than to have any amend-.
nient.

. Sir Grt,t3ser iIEATHCOTE thonghfit would nothe
very courteous towards the country, if the Horse
should. reject Petitions merely on account of the
language. As to that passage which descrkbed.thel
debates in the. House as IlkguSiing, would.,
merely merely make this one observation—that on this
day, which was appoint, d for the consideration of
500 Petitions front the people of England, most
of the members, instead of attending in their
places, had retired comfortably to take their din-
tiers, and left. the Petitions to their fate. This
was treating the petitioners with contempt.
,Mr..BATHURST said, tharthe absent Members,
a s %-i,ell'as those then present, knew the nature of•
tl.e objections to the Petitioni—ohjcetions an
which every Memher had already' made up .his
mind. It wits therefore no insult to the people.
The only instilt in question was the one offered to
the House by the language of the Petitions. The
Petitioners; if they chose, might easily re-state
their complaints in proper language, and then
-they would be received.
Mr. ABEHCROMBIIt put" it to those who com-
plained of the thinness of the House, whether
the. House hail not something to Complain of as
to the.conduct of the Petitioners ; there was no
right which he held so sacred as the tight of Peti-
tion ; and the conduct of these Petitioners' had .a
direct tendency to bring the riOtt of Petition into
contempt,.—(llear, hear !)—The Petitioners well
knew that their Petitions must be rejected, and
the `[louse, on behalf of the people of England,
wax, tailed upon to reprobate their conduct.—
(Hear, hear,!)
After a few words from Mr. BABtNGTON, Mr.
JONES, Mr. C. SMYTH and Lord IliNnitsto, the
Motion was negatived, and the amendment agreed
to without a division.
The ,Sesatuta.—,-The next class was the 468
printed.petitions, and the question as to them,
whether they should be received.
WYNNH rose to more, that these Peti-
tions should beTejected, and to express his sur-
prise that the [Jon. Baronet should have presented
such Petitions to the House, after the repeated-
decisions that printed Petitions could not be re.
ceived. There was' no rule more strongly esta-
blished, than that which ordered that no printed.
Petitions should be received by the House. That
rule WaS begun to he acted on in 1656 ; it was
rccogniaed in 1793, and afterwards so late
us the year 1813, in'thegease.of a printed Petition
from
•Nottingitam, on which occaNion the lion.
Baronet had been himself one of the tellers on
the division that then took place, When• the
rule was confirmed by 73 votes against 11,
and a few days afterwards, a petition from '0
Majca Cart Wright, praying for leave to pie-
sent a printed petition, was rejected. lie %visited
I the entries on the Journals in these C3SeS to be
read. (The Clark then read the entries.) If the
rule nvere not already establiShed, what now took
place Would have rendeted it necessary. Con:
shirring that.the House had, so late as 1813, he
could only think that these printed Petitions were
now sent to be rejected, and, it possible, to ex-
cite, some exasperation in the- 'Nose. The fact
%Nos:established on the Re'pott of the Secret COM-
meittee, that this was one of the. means tesnrtetl
fiA.lor.the purpose of exciting .to sedition and re-.
hellion. The House was therefore called upon,
on this occasion, to mark its -resentment at such

Petition; being ittiry Pres:,tiled. He rttor'eti " that
these leti4iatts be rejected." • . .
Sir W. GEAki thoUght.the House shOuhl pause
before it took airy step oniihis subject. He con-
ceived that the.order of 1636 referred to private
petitio4s, anl.did not exactly bear on the present
the subsequent milers,: the. House had
atlopfeil the orders referring to •printed:petitions
on Chair own jodttment, and:not on the Authority
of the ordei of 165 G. The House %vas, thdefore,
now to act, not upon authority, but ,on,itt;own
judgment. Although Ire ditteredvntirely from the
Seutitttelltil'colltained in the petition, he eoul4l not
see .014 t. their was any good reason for not re-
ceiving printed. petitions ; and, at present, he
sari, no reason to reject the petitions DOW before
the ; , t .

Mr. WY NAV AIN;1 QUIN 'contended, that the Order
of I 6:ifi reler to such petitions as the present,
which %vete the petitions of private.individuals,
and clearly the petitions allotted to in that cha-
racter. : •

Sir F. Bunt:lett contended at some length, that
t he. order of 1656 did not refer to any petitions but
those on private subjects, and that Unit order was
not It standing order; that even if it had been a
standing order• it ought to haVe no force, as it Was
made by the Parlianientl of Oliver Cromwell, in
which no Members sate without the leave of his
soldiers ; Hod, thee efure, eoold not be,considered
as in any rational sense a fair representitaion of the
people; that the eise of 1793 was no authority fur
reit*.liirsit of printed petitions-,becansethe li+mse
then badmen come to ,any vote or any decision, the
motion having been Withdrawn ; that the only deci-,
sion on the sohject was that in the year 1813, which
was faulty, as it Went on the supposition that the
order of 16'1: was hilly established and applied to
printed fictitious co; public suldects ; that any or-
der against the reception of plinted Petitions
must he in contravention to the Bill of Rights;
that the dra:isions of the House were not irrevoca-
ble ; that it was now, therefore, a question of
reason, and-not of authority, and on that ground
that there was no reason why a printed Petition,
with real manuscript signatures, should not be
received ; on the contrary, that it had Many ad-
vantages over a written Petition, as being more
legible, and not liable to alterations after being
signed ; that in 1813 the House of Lords had re-
ceived a printed Petition from Barnstaple, al-
though had entered on its Journals that the
case shoniel- not be drawn into a precedent; and,
finally, that the Crown received printed Petitions.
On these grounds. he was resolved to divide the
House opus the motion.
Lord CASTLEREAGII observed, that if the ob-
ject of the 1-lon. Baronet was that the Honse should
receive the petitions in question, his speech was
very ill calculated to attain that object. The fact
was, that petitioners caniq to the House in the
Same spirit with which di'e MIL Bart. had sPcken,
naMely, to procure the rejection of the petition.
If the lion. Baronet was disposed to cavil abeint'
the words of the Order of 1656 against printed.
petitions; at least he could not do so with
the usage of the House—he could not get lever
the deleisiou in Nl3, when the House had ex-
pressly come to a decision against receiving printed
petitions.. ndeed the Hon. Baronet had gone.
tne' oat,i eAraiettclii search, au.'
thority, MIA the instance which he produced (if
any-auttredt y was wanting),, provedb that it was
against the orders to receive a printed petition,
for thete was en express entry that the cue should
not be tlrawn into precedent. lie conctirred•enthely
with the Hon. and Learned Gentleman in thinking)
that a systematic course wits pursued to bring
the right of petition into contempt, and to make
it the means of disturbing the public peace—
(Hear, hear, hear !)—The dignity of Parliament
rebquiren that these Pending; should be rejected..
There never was a moment at which Parliament
could equivocate less than at present, and Members
would abandon their public ditty it' they lent them-
selves to such Petitions, Which were sent for no
other purpose than in the hope of effecting a re
volution in the country.
Mr. T. SMITH was of opinion, that the Hon.
Baronet was taking that course which would tend
to defeat -the right of petitioning more than tiny
other that could be adopted. The precedent of
1813 was founded on former precedents, vehicle.
'totted to give influence And respectability to the
right ofpetititnuiig.
Sir E. BeYooes said, that without referring to
any precedents, the wording of the petitions,
which were nearly all alike, afforded the strongest
presumptive proof that, they did nut contain the
sense of the people.
Mr. BOSWELL wits Of the same opinion. That
helpless elhl tnatl (Major Cartwright), who was
the polar star of Reform, as he was called by the
worthies of Palace Yard, tired with his stationary
position, (tad becoMe a wandering star, and had
visited the manufacturing towns, shedding his po-
litical influence, and urging the people its every
possible way' to forward his views. But these
petitions were, on the face of them, so many for-
geries, and Were not to be viewed without the
greatest suspicion. It had been 'remarked, that
one of them had the name of a very respectable
overseer at the head of it, and they had heatd of
the softer sex adding their signanites- too, in the
case of the Liverpool petition. He could tell the
House, that there was another petition which had
the advantage of a name of equally good report ;
for it wits signed by a Ur. Cannon:--qA laugh.)
Mr. PETER MOORE spoke in favour of the pe-
tition. •_. .

The /lame then divided
Ayec . .4
Noes
Alajoritr., -52

On our return to the (41!levy, the Clerk was
reading the heads of a numher of other petitions
of the same kind, Which had Previously been ab-
stracted it(the Journals. They were severally
dered to lie on the table. •
The Mutiny and Matine Mutiny Bills,were read
a second time, and ordered to be committed t 0.4
morrow,
The Silk Bounty Bill was read a third time, and
passed; as was also the Indemnity Bill.
The Lords' Amendment to the Treasonable
Practices, and Snilort' and Soldiers' Seduction
tveie read anti agreed to;
The other Orders brine disposed of, the House
adjourned.

•
T I?,
. .
ORDER OF 'Mg EMPER6S.NAI',-): EON',
ADDEE'SSE. SY 0 ENERAL EOVN+ MONTIIOLON, To St ;t lICOSON
LOWE, Elitflitl GOVEEkoIt OF TO ISLAND or SI I. .:LENA.

..6ENERAI.,-I hare receireclitite Treitty of the 341(4 August,
concludettbetween his Britannie Majesty, the Emperor
of Austria, :the Emperor of Ituisia, and the King of Prussia,
which accumpanied your letter of the,.2A of Juty.

he An', peror Napoleon. pretests against the contents of
that treaty ; he. is net Are prisoner of-finglaud., Att,e4ay...
ing placed his abdication in the hands of the ltepresentativeit
of the Nation, fur the adrantalre °Pile Czmilittaio4 iv/opted
by.the Preach peuphs, andand,iit fitvoitr of inn, he repaired vo-
luntarily an 1 freely to England, with the view of living there.
as a private- indiVitrual, under the ,protection' of the British
laws.. ,Theviulation of everylaw 'cannot constitute a right.
The person of 'the .Entperor Napulean is actually in the power
of England, hut be neither has been, .nor Is, in thepower of
Austelaa.ussia, and Prnisia, either in fact or of right, even
according to the 'lairs i r customs Of England, which never'in-
eluded, in the exchange of prisoners, Ruisians, Prussians,
Atistriarts, Spaniards, 'tic, Portugueserthough united to these .
poweis by treaties of alliance, and making war conjointly
with them.
. .

The Convention of the 2d of Augusta cuncloded • fifteen.
clays after the Emperor wits in England, tannot have of tight
any effect. It exhibits Only a spetacle of the coalition of Ito
f?orgreatest Powers of Euro.Pe for the oppressi.,n of a :iii,rie
l!ard4 ?—a coalition which the,opetsion of every nation and all
the principles of sottrfil motality

The Emperors of Austria and lins.;la, and the King vi
Prnssiax having neither in fact or in right any claim over the
person of the Emperor Napoleonremild decide nothing re•
specting him.

Had the Emperor Napoleon in.ett in the power of the Em-
peror of At:stria, that Prine.e would have recollected the re=
lations which religion and natute have fornied btlimeli a
father and a sou►—relutiotis which at•e nei•er violated with

.•
purity.
He would have recollected that Napoleon haJ four lintel
restored to him his throne: viz, at Leuben in I!:7—at Lune-
villein lEo4—when his armies were under the walls of Vienn
—at Preshurgh hi 1806, and at Vienna in 1809, when his
armies had possessinn of the capital and three-fourths of thu
monarchy ! That, Prince would have recollected the prutes.;
tallow' he made to Napoleon at the bivouac in Moravia lit
1306, and at the interview in Dresden in 1812.

Had the person of the le:Mi:Hi. Napoleon been in the
power of the Emperor Alexander, he would bare recollected
the ties of friendship contracted at Tilsit, at Erfurth, and
during twelve years of daily coriripondcdce.

lie would Mire recollected the Crindnct of the Emperor
NapoleUtt the day after the battle of Austerlitz, when, though
he could have ►uade hin►, with the wreck of his army, pi=
saner, contented hiurp! If with taking his parole, and allowed
him to operate hie retreat lie would hare recollected the
dangt rs to which the Emperor Napoleon personally e*post:d
himself In order to extingui;h the fire at Mosc,,w, and tip

preserve that capital for hirii—a%stirctily, that Prince' mould
sieter hare viollted the duties of f►iendslcip dud gratitude
towards *friend in inithyrinste.

Hall the. person of the'Emperor Napoleon been in the
rsowpe of the king of Prisssi.s, that Sovereign could n a lute
forgotiJis 114tt it deist:44,l'On t.iR r..stiP4ot; 41(Cei Co. I,:tit.4r
of Friedland, to place another Psinte un the throne ut Berl
lin. He would not hart, forgotten, in the ptetente of-a dik-
armed enemy, the protestations of Attnchwent mid the sruti-
mews of grutitude which he testified to him in Ist 2 at the
interviews in Dresden.

It accordingly appears from article* C and 6, of the Treaty
of the 2d of August, that these Princes, being incapable of
exercising any influence over the disposal of the Eniperor,
who wai not In their power, accede to what may ht. done
thereon by his Britannic ,Nlajesty, who takes upon himself
the charge of fulfilling eery ohligatitin. These Princes
hare reproached the Emperor Napoleon with having prefer-
red the protection of the English laws to thenl. The false
ideas which the Emperor Napoleon bad formed of the
rality of the laws of England, and of tire iittluenee of the opi-
Won of a peat, getteruae, and free people ore?: their Govern-.
Nara) decided Wet to prefer Use protection of these laws ttt
that of a fciher-in.low or an old friend.

The Emperor Napoleon had Witt his power to Serttre, by-a
diplomatic treaty, whatever was personal to himself, by put-.
ting himself either at the head of the army of the Loire, or at
the bead of the army of the Gironde, einiimatided by General
ClauSel; but wishing, henceforth, for nothing but retirement
arid the protection olthebtWs of a free State, either. English
or Aanerkan, all stipulation appeared to him num:cc:n*4..
He conceited that the:English people wete more bound by
a conduct which was, on hit part, frank, noble, and full of
confidence, than they Witold have been by the most solemn
trades. Ile has been deceived, bnt this rtilk Wilt for ever:
cause true Britnnt to Minh, rind Will,. in the present as well
as the future generations, be a pro.'/ al the bad faith of the
English administration.

Austrian surd Penistan Conintissiontell are arrived at St.
Helena. if the object of their Miision be the fulfilment of a
part of the duties which the. Emperor* of Austria and Russia
have contracted by the Treaty of the tut of Anglia, and to
take tare that the English agent*, in a s►nalt colony, in the
widst of the ocean, de nut fail in the respect due to a Prince
connected with their Sovereigns by the bonds of relationship
and so many other ties, proofs of the character-which belong
to these two Monarchs will be recognized in this proteedingl
b►tt you, Sir, have declared that these Commissioners have
neither the right nor *nattier of giving any opinion on what
may he passing on this' lack!

The EngliShlsterf have caused the Emperdr Napoleon
to be trantporttd to St. Helena, at the distance: of 2000
leagues froth Europe ' rock, situated within the trop cs,
attilSao leagtteS from any torninent, is Subject to the devour-
ihg heats of these latitudes.' It is cutcted with clouds and
fogs during titre-04,mi% hs oft Ite li:at, arid IS stt once the must
arid aud the must humid 'country ht the stpriet: Such u
state is 'mutt inimical to the health of the Ettiperot, and
hatred must Intro dictated the choice of this residence, as welt
as the ittstructionS given by the Engtliit bliniStcri to.the M-
eets commanding in the 'dhoti:

'they Ibtli'e ti.en been ordered td Ball the Einpetor Naptife on
Grierrat, av if it were wished to olinte hlin to etinsitier hint.
self never le ving reigned iii France.

rrason which devout:tett him dui to assume an ineor,,
situ name, as he alight , have resulted to do on leaving
weri these : Firs Magistrate ftir lift, ratite Repdblitf
o:Lars th. the title id First Couldt he concluded the Prelitni-,
trat irs of LArtidort aud the Treaty of Awieue 'w,ith the Kiug of

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