The Sun.
London, England, 1810-05-31 00:00:00

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the 5uni.0r34,8,2611e, There had been paid into,thi
Exchetitier, MOreover,.li flifferent .periods;Elie tul;
!Owing.Urns 30,0001,;.10,00oLvtpAr
jpg a total ot.3i 0,0001... From, this fond :he:would
observe, 171,6001. was paid, to the. Royal-. Family .
during the last IhninistratiOn. not,Mean
to attach any
‘blame to-them fer so doing, he. merely
stated the fact, to spew that such an appropriation was
not more to be charged to the present. Government
than to -those who had 'gone before, and ,most par-
ticularly to the last Administration. Anoteer casq.
in.the account came under the head " Seecial," and
`eorrsistedpf rewards given to those
,14,,1t0
tured vessels which they appeared In have a 'right :tit
capture, but which'subseqeently, they were compel-
led to give up, and various,other Claim,;.. He should •
move for the printing of tbe,paperi on this subject.
Igo one payment- -had ever been made.hat nn them
report of the King's Advocate: Each of these Or the,.
whole might be Called.f6r,.., They would. proice •
atisfaEtoryi and he would undertake to say:
would be no, objeaion to any
,one or more of
the. items. These it was his wish to bring for-
ward, that it might be seen :on N.rliat grounds ltis
,N,lajestyhad been advised. to make the,granel he 1184
made out oft hat fued.The Wli;ole of the Payments made
from the Droits .amounted together to 6,188,43e1.
which deduaed tram 7,344,0001. the sum total of
the 'proceeds left a balance of 1,157,1681. An ar-
rear of the 4i. per cent. fund of 40,00,01. had been
paid-from the Droits. Thai being a fund, to which,
when in sutpluS, such freqeent applicationefere
made, he advised his Majesty to rely its its arrear
out of the Droits of Admiralty. The provision ioade
for the Civil LiSt was not equal,ta its, charges. The
establishment, as made by Mr. Pitt, he thought wag
not originally sufficient. The last Adreiuistration
had become compelled to appropriate -190,00 a to
the purpose of relieving the Cieil Tait; and in the
course of thir Administration they had been again
obliged to go to another fund, the Scotch gevenue,
to release the Civil List froni debts recently 'Aeenenu-
Wed. 'He understood the 100;0901. had been ap- .
propriated in March, I 806, and the 30,6d01. in 1807
for debts contraaed subseqfient to the for Mer pay-
ment. This arose from the original deficiency in
the Civil List, as he had already stated, which uas
• such that it fell short between 20 and 30,0001. every
quarter. Oct of-the proceeds arising from the Da-
nish prizes, :148",0001: had already been applied to
the public Service. This was done in consequence
of a determination to apply-the whole of the •pro--
ceeds thence arising to the service of the PubliC, and
to satisfy the claimaetsand captors. • The motives
by which they were then a&uated arose out of the
circumstances of. there being various merchanfe, who
looked for a remuneration: of the losses they had
sustained, from. the mariner in which the war broke
out, from those -proceeds. The most serious Consi-
deration was given to their wishes, bUt it was
found impossible to comply with theM consis-
tently with any view of policy, as it would esta-
blish a most dangerous precedent, and merchants
might, in consequence, of the breaking cut of a
future war, be indifferent about eeing off their.
property. He thought the Right Hon. Geritleman
stated the surplus of the broils to be less than it was,
but it would be idle to pretend to give that to the
Public, and so impoverish the fund as to. oblige the
King to come shortly to Parliament to:pay his debts.
The Civil Fund was -159,0001. in debt last March.
l•He wished the'Hotise however to bear in Mind aid
Civil List of this .and the Civil List of the preceding
reign. If 800,6001. was 'tot more than:sufficient
in the,, re;gri of Geo. 11. the pretent establishment
must-necessarily be insufficient. The Right Hui),
Gentleman then instanced several cases, to chew the
necessity-of attending to special claims in the mode
now preferred. He thought if the motion were ac-
ceded. to, the droits could not answer the peapose
they had hitherto answered. :Whatever criticism
might be made .on the Civil List, he thought it
must be admitted (unless it was contended its (refits"
ought not to be paid) that no fund could so properly
be applied to that purpose as the broits of Admi-
ralty. If there were grounds to apprehend that,the
Droits were misapplied, there Might'be some rea-
son in the interference of Parliament, but when ac-
counts so satisfaEtory were for the first time laid be-
fore•them; he thought it a most singular period for
calling on the King to apply a fund, which had
never been under the controul of Pariiathent, to any
particular purpose, when there was a prosp,ea,of its
being speedily applied Without their solicitation in a
manner which could not but-eiive them entire satis-
faaion. •
. Mr. FREEMANTLE maintained, that the stai '-
merits of the Chantellor df the &chequer \vete
fallacious, and from accounts he held in his hand;
the Civil List had continued to inerease,,notWith-
standing the tegulatitins to the•contrary. In answer
to one Of the objeaions of the Right Honour-
able Gentlemen, that the Address was ill-timed,
he should think that no time would be better cala
culated to relieve the Consolidated Ftind, from pres-
sure,
,than when the people Were so overloaded with
taxes.

-Mr. Ros replied to the observationS of the last
speaker, and stated the aceounts of the Civil List
to be* open to every one. He wished the Honour-
able Gentleman would move fur any papers hi
might wish for on the subje6l, and he (Mr: R.)
would second-his motion. Contrasting the present
Civil List, with that of George 11. he. appealed to
the House if 800;0001. at that time was not greatet
in proportion than 1,100,0001. the arnOtint of the
Civil List now. As Co the Droits of Admiralty,
they had, as his Right Honourable Friend ,had stat-
ed, many claims on them at present. Tho 4 satin.
fled; it would Still be time enough for Parliament to
decide-on the manner in which the sikpins should
be applied.
. .
Mr. CREEVit said; it hid been Stated by tbi
Chancellor of the Exchequer that 40,0001. had been
applied to pay the artear of the 4 per cent. Fund.—..
Out of that Fund the Duke Of GlouCester formerly
received 60001. per annum ; but the Fund being
unequal to the charge, it w,al tranfferred to the Con-
solidated Fund. When the Ati per cent. recovered, a
number Of MeMbers of Parliament, Mr. Canning's re.
lations ands Mr. Long, Were were put on it--4when that
Fund was in spear, the arrear could h€ paid from
the Droits of Admiralty; now if the Droits of Ad-
miralty could he so applied; surely it was not tbo
Much to ask the King to make a provision for the
Duke of Brunswick from that fund. Before the
Close Of the Session he would bring the four god is