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12, BERNER'S-STREET, OXFORD-STREET.

bowsprit of a collier, which had drifted slightly. On
the arrival nf the Great Britain at Woolwich she
slowed her engine. This was at half-past three. She
anchored at Blackwall at four o'clock, and was hailed
by thousands of spectators, who had assembled on the
b inks of the river to welcome her approach. The
passengers (at least all of those who, from not being
appointed to survey her officially, and being uncon-
nected with the Company could join in signing such
a document) gave the testimonial which is subjoined
to her gallant commander.
The engines of the Great Britain during the heavy
g.-,le were found to work uniformly, which is not the
case with those of paddle-fitted vessels, in consequence
of the paddle-vt heels being frequently plunged even to
their axes, at which time the engines were as it were
paralysed, and the next moment, in consequence of
the water leaving the wheels, and the resistance being
lessened, the engines fly off at a speed much beyond
their usual rate of working, which not only requires
the greatest attention of the engineers, but frequently,
in spite of every precaution, :causes considerable de-
rangement of the machinery. The uniformity with
which the engines of vessels with screw propellers
work, is of more importance than may perhaps at first
strike those not practically acquainted with the sub-
ject, for when the engine of a paddle-wheel vessel is
reduced in its speed, the power, as a matter of
course, is less in proport;-m, and the deficiency
generally occurs in gales of wind, when its maximum
is most required, it being well known that a power,
however great, applied at intervals, is less efficacious
than when steadily and constantly applied; and this
in some measure accounts for the Great Britain
nuking so good a passage under such disadvantageous
circumstances. It having been stated that the screw,
from its peculiar position so far aft, would, by the
pitching of the ship be subjected to a similar disad-
vantage to the paddle-wheels, in being lifted out of
the water, we particularly noticed, during the
gale, how far this statement was borne out in prac-
tice, and we found at no time, even when the fore-
foot of the ship was distinctly seen, that the pro-
peller was out of the water except about three or
four feet of its upper part, which was only so mo-
mentarily. This is fully confirmed by the engine
never varying more than from a half to a whole stroke
per minute.

fired a gun, and was loudly cheered by both officers and
men, who crowded the -ecks of the Apollo. She conti-
nued her course, making an average speed of 12 statute
miles throughout the day; and having rounded the South
Foreland, came to an anchor in the Downs, at 40 mi-
nutes past 1 A.M. Sunday morning, having performetl,
in 28 hours and 55 minutes, 320 nautical, or about 350
statute miles.

Minister, was safely delivered of a son on Saturday,
at his Excellency's residence in Portland 'place. _Nu-
tnerous inquiries were made yesterday, and the answer
given was, " Madame Van de Weyer is going on fa-
vourably, ani the infant is quite well."
The Hon. Francis and Lady Anne Charteris have
arrived at Farrance's Hotel, Be!grave-street, from
Scotland.

Established since 1825.
.11
-ELR. L. MOSELY, Surgeon Dentist, of 12,
Berner's-street, Oxford-street, has the honour to acknow-
leCge the very liberal and increased practice he has gained for the
last TWENTY YEARS, and at the same time begs to inform the
Nobility, Gentry, and the Public generally, that he may be con.
suited D A I LY in all cases incidental to the TEETII and GUMS.

Teeth of every material now in use, and at prices to suit all
parties. Scaling, Filling, and every operation pertaining to Dental
Surgery. Please notice, No. 12, Berner's-street, Oxford.street.

Sunday, at fifty-five minutes past seven the ship got
under way, and her progress through the Downs was
watched by the crews of at least 100 vessels. The wind
having shifted during the night to W.N.W., it was upon
her beam until she entered the Queen's Channel. At
twenty-five minutes past eight A.M., she was off Rams-
gate, and at fifty-five minutes past eight rounded the
North Foreland. At this time the wind was blowing a
heavy gale right a-bead ; she notwithstanding made
9 a lug, with sixteen revolutions, and passed the Nore at
thirty minutes past eleven A.M., where she was met by a
large American ship, the Prince Albert, proceeding with
emigrants to New York, who loudly cheered her as she
passed them. At thirty minutes past twelve she came
up with the Waterwitch, hull steamer, a very fast
steamer, and past her in gallant style, having gained
about five miles on her in an hour and a half. The
Great Britain then proceeded up the river in the teeth
of the severe gale, and threaded her way through
the numerous craft that lay in the different reaches
with the utmost facility. In Gravesend Reach she
came into collision with a collier brig, which was at the
time, as I was informed, dragging her anchor, and
carried away her bowsprit, which, however, was only the
least of a choice of evils, as she must hare otherwise
run down a sloop that was coming down the river, or
plumped herself on shore. As she progressed up the
river she was met by the Meteor and other river steam-
ers, and was cheered by the passengers on board of
them, and the crews of all the vessels in the river, as
well as by the many thousand spectators who lined the
banks of the river at various places up to Woolwich and
Blackwall. She reached Woolwich at half-past three
P.M., and immediately slackened her speed, after which
she proceeded at a moderate rate to her moorings at
Blackwall. During the entire voyage the engines were
54,473 revolutions, with 163,419 revolutions of the Ar-
chimedean screw propeller ; and the greatest rate of
speed at which she went at any one time was 13 2-3
knots from Beachy Head to Dungeness. One hour and
eight minutes after the Great Britain had reached her
moorings at Blackwall the Waterwich arrived, showing
that the Great Britain had beaten her in speed by that
time in a distance of 33 miles.

Captain Hosken, R.N., by whom she is com-
manded, and who has gained 'much nautical renown
as the commander of the Great Western on her va-
rious transatlantic voyages, repeatedly expressed his
conviction that neither the Great Western, nor any
of the mail steamers, would have made such head-
way against a similar gale ; and it must be conceded
that his opinion is one which is entitled to very great
respect.

During the heavy gale the engines were found to work
uniformly, which would not have been the case with a
paddle-fitted vessel, in consrquence of the wheels being
frequently plunged iu the water up to their axes, at
which time the engines are, as i. were, paralyzed, and
the next moment, in consequence of the water leaving
the wheels, the engines fly off at a speed much beyond
their usual rate of working, which not only requires very
great attention in the engineers, but frequently, in spite
of every precaution, causes considerable derangement of
the machinery. The uniformity with which the engines
of screw propellers work is of more importance than it
may seem to those who are not practically acquainted
with the subject, for when the engine of a paddle-
vessel is reduced in its speed, the power, as a matter
of course, is less in proportion, and this deficiency
generally occurs in gales of wind when the greatest
power is most required, it being well-known that a
power, however great, applied at intervals, is less effica-
cious than when steadily and constantly applied, and this
in some measure accounts for the Great Britain making
so good a passage under such disadvantageous circum-
stances. An objection has been made to the screw pro-
peller, that from its peculiar position so far aft, it would,
by the pitching of the ship, be subjected to a similar dis-
advantage to the paddle-wheel in being lifted out of the
water. I therefore watched anxiously during the gale
to see whether this would be so, and how far the state-
ment was borne out in practice ; and I found that at no
time (even although you could see the fore foot of the
vessel as she pitched) was the propeller out of the water,
except about three or four feet of its upper part, which
was only momentarily seen. This is fully confirmed by
the engines never varying more than from a half to a
whole stroke per minute. It has been fortunate that the
Great Britain should have on her first trip of any length
experienced such boisterous weather, as it has com-
pletely tested the powers of the screw when applied to
vessels of such magnitude ; and Captain Hosken, whose
experience of transatlantic navigation is very great, is of
opinion that neither the Great Western, nor any of the
Royal Mail boats, would have made so much head-way
under the same circumstances by at least a knot, or a

During the voy-ge to Woolwich the engine made
54,521 revolutions, and the screw 163,563. The
subsequent revolutions to Blackwall were not ascer-
tained when our report left.

On board the Groat Britain steam-ship,
English Channel, Jan. 25, 1845.
'We, the undersigned passengers on board of the
Great Britain steam-ship, on her experimental voyage
I, ur,i 13ritol to London, having witnessed her per-
formance during a stiff gale and a heavy sea, and
amidst generally unfavourable weather, feel called
upon to express our conviction of her great length
being no detriment to her seaworthiness and her
excellent sailing qualities, and of the great advantage
of the application of Mr. Smith's screw ; as also our
sense of the skill, attention, and urbanity of her com-
mander, Lieut. Hosken, R.N., and the good conduct
of her officers and crew.

We further beg to express our high sense of the
spirited conduct of the Company by whom so great
a monument of commercial enterprise was designed
and carried out, and to congratulate them and the
engineers and artisans employed in her construction
upon the success which has attended their labours, as
evidenced by the result of a voyage so well calculated
to test her powers as the present has been :
Stephen Lushington, Captain, R.N.
A. Fairbrother, M.D.
William Henry Gore Langton
Joseph Reynolds, R.Y.S.
Isaac White
J. H. Brown, Commander Merchant Service.

THEATRES.
DRURY-LANE.

Edward James Maude, C.E.
John Sunley
William Carpenter Evans
William Roughsedge
Charles "West
Henry James Mills
Tom D. Taylor
George F. Powell
J. 'Walter
Edmund Jabez Maybury
James Lovell
John Gower Powell
Christopher Hill
Alfred Honey will
George Pyecroft, M.R.C.S.
William Herneman
J. Hammond, C.E.
William Cook
C. Pritchard Baily, C.E.

There will be a grand supper here this evening
after the performance, to celebrate the .50th repre-
sentation of the Daughter of St. Mark, which con-
tinues to attract crowded audiences. The celebrated
ballet of Les Danaides is in rehearsal, and Madlle.
Maria has arrived from Paris to assist in it.

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Creina schooner, run down about six weeks since in
Kingroad, a portion of the spars and rigging of which it
brought up. Some delay in consequence ensued, and
she went down at a reduced speed, and was abreast the
Flat Holm at forty minutes past nine P.M., when the
ship was put at an increased speed, the engines making
fourteen revolutions per minute, the steam pressure
being 4*lb. to the square inch. At five minutes past ten
she slackened speed to adjust the bearings, and the
vessel was kept at a reduced speed, until about midnight,
by which time she was off the Naas Lights. When she
got under way at Kingroad, it was blowing fresh from
the S.S.W., which at three o'clock A.M., on Friday, had
veered to the N.W., and increased to a gale with a
heavy cross sea, with squalls of rain during the
night. It is scarcely possible for a vessel to have had
a more favourable opportunity of testing her. powers
and capabilities than the Great Britain had during
the continuance of this gale, while on her passage from
the Holms to the Land's End, during the whole of which
period the gale blew so strongly, and with such a heavy
sea, tha snot a single vessel, steam or sailing, was to be
seen in the channel, all having run for shelter. At ten,
a.m., the Great Britain was off Lundy Island, the gale
continuing with the addition of the spring ebb, the wind
being N.N.W., the ship steering W. by N., and making
5* knots against the sea, with 13 revolutions of her en-
gines. From her being very light, she rolled tremen-
dously, but still very easily ; and when about 15 miles
below the island, at twenty minutes past twelve, she was
struck by a tremendous sea upon the starboard bow, and
at the same time being met on the larboard bow by an-
other sea, the shock was dreadful, and for a moment
brought her to a stand-still. She instantly, however,
"lifted" from the sea, and on examination it was found
that three of her starboard bow's bull's-eyes had been
stove in, with their frames ; the diagonal bands of the
forecastle deck buckled, the wood-work started two
inches upwards, a portion of her carved figure-head
and the carpenter's work of the bulkhead carried away,
and the iron sheathing of both starboard and larboard
bows above decks ripped in two places. Notwithstand-
ing this shock, she, however, still held on her way, and
at twenty minutes past one P.M. Pentire point bore S.
E., distant about four leagues. At forty-five minutes
past one P.M. she still breasted the gale, and made eight
knots and a half, with the engines making 13* revolu-
tions, and having three spencers and stay-sails set. At
half-past five P.M. the weather began to moderate, when
she had four spencers, jib, and square mainsail set, the
engine making 15 revolutions, and the log giving nine
knots and three- quarters, the wind being N.N.W., and
the ship steering W., and by S. S. At ten minutes past
six P.M. the Longships Light hove in view, and at forty-
five minutes past eight P.X. it was passed, and she
rounded the Land's-end. In the opinion of highly
scientific and able nautical persons on board no other
steamer could have done more than just make head
against the gale with such a sea as was running in the
Channel. The Great Western once was in a similar
gale, and was off Lundy about the same hour of the
day; she did not, however, lose sight of the island
for the entire day, while the Great Britain, at her very
worst, was doing four knots and three-quarters, and, as I
have stated, succeeded in getting round the Land's-end,
and, of course, into smooth water, at 45 minutes past 8
the same evening. At 40 minutes past 10 P.M. she was
off the Lizard Lights, her sails (having become useless)
being furled ; the engines were then making 15i revo-
lutions, the vessels going through the water IA knots;
and at 45 minutes past 2 A.M. of Saturday she passed the
Eddystone, bearing N.N.E. 4E. At a quarter-past 5
A.M. she was off the Start Point, making 10 knots with
15 revolutions of the engines. She continued her voyage
up the Channel at from 10 to 10* knots ; and at 45 mi-
nutes past 9 sou., when off Portland, there being a light
breeze from the westward, she set all her fore and aft
sails, with her mainsails, and at 45 minutes past 12 P.M.,
entered the Needles Channel, and passed Lyminzton at
20 minutes past 1, making 114 knots with 16 revolu-
tions. When off Cowes, at a quarter-past 2 P.M., she
stopped for three minutes to land dispatches. Slie '
con-
tinued on her way gallantly, and at 10 minutes past 3
T.M. she passed her Majesty a ship Apollo at Spithead,

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possession of, and then it is not difficult to make` them
capitulate. But in Africa there are no such points, svt!s•
must he carried on on all points of the country ; stud? it
is for this reason that, with an army of 80,000 men, Ives
never had more than 20,000 in line on any given point g
and with the 80,000, diminished besides by sick and
non-effectives, it requires some management to assemble.:
20,000 on any given point. It must be also remarked,
that our army in Africa has constructed 500 leagues of
road, 13 bridges, and a number of civil and military
works. There would, therefore, be rather a necessity.
for increasing than diminishingit. Distant exped Awns
have been blamed ; it was said of them that their only
Object was to give occasion for bulletins, but I can set
your mind at rest on that point, for be ass:lred, gentle-
men, that the French army under my cornm,and shall
never make war unless to obtain some advantage for the
country.—(Hear, hear.) We have acted like the English,who are so much admired ;we extended our expeclitiops
to favour the introduction of French goods into the in-
terior of Africa, and the constantly increasing amount
of our commerce proves that our efforts have not been
in vain. To succeed, we have not indeed shed so much
powerssy it
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blood as the armies of the Empire, but we hare under•
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our
gone more actual labour.—(Hear, hear.) .As to Abd-el-
Kader, I would not say he will not return, kir I think
myself that he will do so—(A laugh)—but he will not
return in a condition to be dangerous ; we now govern
ao
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and which is inhabited by excellent soldiers. Ido not
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iinpos,ible to the army of Africa..—(Appro--
th!. who.le country must be reduced, or .none ; and to
leviesl on the Arabs already amount to five million. 6 ;
hope that this amount will be increased by the now
submissions, but we require forces to maintain them.
The progress of European civilization is rapid : in 1,!441
there were 31,000 souls, and the number is now 75,000:
This happy increase is owing to the centres of colonisa-
tion having been carried more into the country ; for the
colonists, when left to themselves, are accustomed
to provide for their own wants and fur their own
defence ; whilst those who are nearer the great
centres accustom themselves too much to be pro-
tected : the first are like children well brought up,
who provide for themselves ; and the others like
those who constantly claim assistance from their rela-
tives.—(Laughter.) Much attention is paid to giving
our colonists civil rights, but I venture to say that it is
not those they stood most in need of ; what is most,
wanted is a strong military organisation, capable of re-
sisting 4,000,000 of Arabs, who reckon amongst them
600,000 war riors, all good horsemen, and well skilled in
the use of arms. This is the reason why I wish for the
establishment of military colonies by the side of the civil
ones; where the men certainly should not be subjected
to the discipline of barracks, but where they should
preserve their accustomed obedience to their chiefs as in
a regiment, and might at the first signal take up arms
to quell an insurrection, and to reinforce one of our
columns. What can you claim from civil colonists?
There are no corporations, there are only individuals;
these military colonists, on the contrary, form corpora-
tions, and might undertake great works. During
the months of July, August, and September,
nothing can be done in consequence of the
dryness of the land; the civil settlers are obliged
to remain with their arms folded ; with military
colonists the case would be different; their chiefs might
say to them—" Come, my lads, we can irrigate 200 hec-
tares of land to the work; no sooner said than it is done.
Thus with military colonists not a moment is lost,
whilst, on the contrary, with civil settlers, there is both
inactivity and weakness. Military colonization, there-
fore, is what I recommend ; but for that, you must
augment the army—not less than 100,000 men must be
in Africa. You are well aware that this has long been my
opinion ; in 1838, I said the very same thing in this
tribune. I repeat it now-100,000 men are required,
and I never had mere than 80,000. If, too, you consent
to have 100,000 men in Africa, you will get on far more
rapidly than you have hitherto done, and you will suc-
ceed in founding important and productive establish-
ments--military colonization cost dear, but it gives a
return. It may be feared that it 100,000 mer are sent to
Africa France will he left ton bare, but there is a
simple means of remedying that inconvenience. The
contingents amount to 80,000 alert, find only half
of them are called into service, the other re-
maining as the reserve. Well, then, let a certain
number of the soldiers of the latter class be sent to Algeria
as military colonists ; by following this plan, I repeat
it, you will promptly succeed in obtaining satisfactory
results, and it is my firm opinion that no other method
will be of use. By following, too, this course, you will
render a matter which at first appeared most difficult,
safe, and excellent, and you will consolidate the future
prospects of Algeria,—(Loud cheers.)
The sitting remained suspended for a quarter of an
hour.
M. Saint-Marc Girardin did not ascend the tribune to
reply to the illustrious officer who had just addressed the
Chamber—for Marshal Bugeaud could only find there
warm admirers—but to express the opinion of the mi-
nority of the Committee on the amendment. lie wished
neither to increase nor dinsish the differences which

separated him from his old friends. That sentiment he
had already maintained frankly in that tribune, and
would do so still. lie was the more disposed to
speak so, because he looked on the Ministerial question
as already settled.—(Cries of " No, no !" from the Left).
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in all probability disposed of—(-1,11! that's differeft)—anet
when he stood there to express his sentiments, he hoped
that he should not be exposed to be treated either 'as an
intriguer or a candidate for place.—(Laughter, and a cry
of "Nonsense, go on.") The utmost that he could be
accused of was that he was a member of a coalition, and
that would be an error from which he trusted he should
find persons amongst the Ministry itself to exculpate
him.—(Laughter.) But to refer to the amendment.
What he blamed particularly was, that Marshal Bu-
geaud had not been employed in the negotiations reLs-
tive to the treaty. By whom, in fact, could France have
been better represented than by the Governor-General
of Africa—the victor of Isly ? Who could better have
judged of the situation ? and it was evident, from the
only dispatch of the illustrious Marshal that had been
laid before the Chamber, that he expected himself to be
so employed. Compare the situation of the victorious
General, stipulating beneath the shadow of his flag, to
that of our Consul-General at Tangiers; no one was
more ready than himself to render justice to the intelli-
gence, the zeal, and the patriotism of that functionary at
Tangiers ; but he had no precise and positive informa-
tion, and ihe dispatches of Marshal Bugeaud only reached
him from Paris. In such a barbarous country there was
no means of communication; what passed at Ouchda was
not known at Tangiers. Thus, while their Consul-Ge-
neral was still hoping for peace, war had broken out—
war not attended with danger, for the Gallant Marshal
was there—but with all its fresh complications. By this
parallel he wished to compare the situation of the nego-
tiator chosen with him, whom ho could have wished to have
seen in that position; the former was ignorant of facts until
long after they had occurred; the latter was ignorant of
nothing that was passing, and knew the secret of Arab
cunning. Was it not to be readily believed that when the
same hand wielded the sword and guided the pen, that
when it was the conqueror who presented himself to
treat, surrounded by all the halo of victory, that the inte-
rests of the country would be better defended than when
the task was confided to a negotiator, ill-informed and
devoid of all personal consideration ? It has been said
' that there was also at Tangiers a negotiator armed by
victory. God forbid—(lnterruption.) He (M. de St.
Marc Girardin) considered he rendered a great and so-
lemn homage to the Prince de Joinville in speaking of
him.—(Fresh and loud interruption.) What ! was it to
be supposed he should have heard the reporter on the
Address—and he should not reproach with it—speak
of the Prince de Joinville and of the cannon of Tangiers,
without speaking of the cannon of Isly?—(Loud excla-
mations, and cries of " Order.")
Rear-Admiral Hernoux—Who does the Hon. Deputy
reproach with having overlooked the services of one of
the two commanders ?—(Fresh exclamations from the
Left, and cries of " Do not interrupt" from the extre-
mities, during which the President called the Chamber
to order.)
M. Saint-Marc Girardin—Ministerial responsibility
covered all, and consequently permitted the discussion
not assuredly of names and titles, but it permitted the
use in a speech of the name of a Prince who had been
a negotiator, the name of a Prince for whom he hoped
no one doubted his profound respect. He was therefore
persuaded that he had made use of no expression which
might reach to him—a Prince he honoured and ad-
mired—to that illustrious negotiator.—(A Voice—" He
was no negotiator.") True, he was no negotiator ;
but it was under the cannon of his ships that the nego-
tiations were concluded. However that might be, it was
in consequence of entrusting the negotiation to improper
persons that the idea occurred of stipulating that Abd-
el-Kader should be treated with generosity and consi-
deration; it was to the false appreciation of the power
of Abderrhaman, who was rather treated as a powerful
chief than as one vanquished and lowered to such a point
that he was prevented from even discussing the clauses
of a treaty.—(Hear, hear.) He therefore complained of
the negotiations and of the choice of the agents em-
ployed; be complained of the absence of guarantees, and,
in saying this, he only repeated the idea of the Minister
of the Interior, who admitted that all their guarantee was
the possibility of a fresh campaign in the spring. He
considered that the Chamber ought not to give al:abso-
lute and unreserved approbation to the policy of the
Cabinet. It had never been accustomed to do so. When
a formal vote of blame was proposed, it merely contented
itself with not blaming, but took care not to vote what
might be taken for undoubted approbation. That was
the course proposed by the amendment, and the Cham-
ber, by acting so, would preserve all itsindependence.
The Minister of Foreign Affairs (from his place)
said that he did not rise to again take part in the dis-
cussion, because he could not add anything to the reasons
which the Chamber had already heard ; he came for-
ward merely to declare that the Government, having ex-
pressed, in the Speech from the Throne, its opinion on the
affairs of Morocco—er the manner in which the war was
carried on, and the peace effected, and having said that
France had proved her power by the former, and her
moderation by the latter—finding moreover that this
opinion was repeated in the Address, the Government,
he said, rejected the amendment of M. de Beaumont, as
being of a nature to completely change the meaning of
the Address, which could not then respond to the Royal
Speech. The Government, therefore, rejected the
amendment now proposed, as it had done that of M. do
Carne the preceding day.—(Hear.)
M. de Beaumont having briefly replied amidst loud
cries of " Divide, divide" from all parts of the Chamber,
the President submitted the first part of the amendment
to a show of hands. The first trial was declared to be
doubtful ; and on the second the part of the amendment
submitted for discussion was rejected.