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I_lllPE.tailL P,IRLIAMEIVI.

1-LOT' `,E OF commoNS,

FRIDAY, DEC. 21.

The House met ye6terday at tile usual hour,,wheu
LUSHINGTON brought Up the Report of theCom-
mittee'ort the. State of the Nal ion.

Qn,tbe reading of the Resolutions Sir F. Eva-
DETT rose. , .

The. SPEAKER spoke'to a point-of order, and the
1190. Bart. restnn'ed Iris seat. .
On ttie second reading of the Res9lnt!ons,

. •
'Lord. W. RUSsiee observed, that though he dif-
tered in many points.from the Hon. Bart. yet When.
the do trines he, mentioned. were sucleas.might be-
nefit thecountry,. he would not find a more deter
mined partisan. • He had oPposedtheproceeding by
Bill iiil7BB. His opinions, were the sameas they were
then, and he sheblit again oppose the principle. The
_ Resolutions then proposed , were proposed not 'So
frOm an opinion of their being necessary in
the iiist instance, as. from • the circuneeance-Which
arose out oft heir debate. An assertioebf the Prince's
right to reyal authority had been thee set up, and it'
was inoppesition cp that assertion that the 'Ministers
of that day moyed them.' No.such claims had now
been advanced, and consequently Ministers-had' net.
the ',curie excuse as their. predecessors to urge"ip j us-
eticatithi of their conduct. He concluded by, moving
the previous question. - , .
. .
', Sir V. BURbETT thought those Geetlernee .who
grounded t heirdefeece 6:1 the measure proi,os,el-ee
the necessity of the case, Were boind,;tp prove the
existence cif sueli'neeessity.' Where there wa;e'a,.ne,,:
.
C;,ssity, ter adopting ins,* particular 'mode:. ok.eciieltiet;
. • • .•
there eoule,be rid alternative, :and if he could
that there was an,alternative, •it ed'tirat ter;e
could be no necessity.. .These who took'
ceediegs el, 17,8,a, for a precedent, seemed ~to tor-
ger' tit to follow the course .pursued at ihat time
would oc io do ayerydifferent 011ie; at inothereTtrat
Which was propceed now to he dope, had been then
di,n, in opposition to, a claim.of, right; which• was
erroecous, as no right' could exist Where there was.
no-law, and, no law- could he foendeo-prove 'the-
existence of such a right. • He wishedto kno.:v where
a law cooldbe found by :which that right'. devolved
oil the two Houses. Ttrough the claims of a right on
the part of the Prince was erroneouse yet to g.oe jp
him the royal power ,Was thy most rational -Way of
proceeding, as reason, analogy, and eipe?hericyeweri,..
at once in its favour. The defect ie the Constitu
tien ought to have been remedied i.vithout cletee,
arid if the -principle acted upon in the better ewes
of Parliament had been thought worthy. of emu-
lation, they, as the Reptescntati'es of the tpeepte,
would have held comerencr.:s with the different coen-
tits; to gain,the acquiescence -Of -111'e Public iu theT
line of conduct most eligible to be pursued. Ttiis
might have been done hi a very few days, and the
deled could have been 'remedied its the simplest
and most easy manner, as had been done on former
occasions. The Hon. !dart. . theeproceeded to notice
the vivacity of a Right Hon. Gentleman Opposite
(late one of his Majesty's Ministers), made some al-
lusious to the calamities at W.:lclie:en, and express,
edhis'cipiiiion in strong terms of the conduct of_ fhat.
Right Honoutable Gentleman, as.pne of hid Mri-'
Jest),, s late Government. The Lord Mayor of Lou,
don and the Court of Aldertnae werea bedy,kfireat
weight, and ,he did, nut thh-k it would have been
any diserace to that trouseil they had c,onsti.Ved their
sentiments on -such occiesion. shiStild not
have r heught it very preposterous if the Lord Mayor,
AA.c;trien,...and _Conlinfla_Coun.olruep had
.come
forward with an address, at...sech a period., The
Right Hon. Gentleman seethed -totillit'litere Was.
something very ludicrOus in the -gown of atflilder-
m ; bet t hen he was4iiJ of Eris MajestY's',Sectei.
Caries of State, hte_liacknoe disdained tospieet a party
of contractors andelextrbers• at a Taverne4.reteein-'
beridg brat.: her eft ht' not' to- treat se Fespectablq, p:
body wirli ley,ity. H.e differed from, §.dt:Uer the
last debate, Who, had maintained,_ that there, was a
sort of a law above- the law-. If they-looked into the
precede4its of -Parliament, they Would find so many
contradictions, that no certain rule could be drawn
with :propiiety.. from. so inconsistent filaS,-
His:ideas were 'those of a plainernati, and - he had
no ideo• *of 'a Constitution 'in the air.. It was •
abov.e.iiis comprehension.: :The 'preposition before
them went in effect to a revolution; to a subversion
of the and to an usurpation of the reyai autho-
rity the Constitution-of England, three:estates
were pecessary. -The Great Seal tirrs not every
thing, as some Gentlemen had -seerried_of opinion'
when they, said the case of the Revolution did not
apply to ties case, because here wehsd a Great Seal,
'While there a Great Seal was waotinge It
.was not •
the Great Seal, but a great poliiidalprieciple, which
it was the "object of the Revolution to establish.
The ,Ret olution was the conseqUence 'the .i,iola-
tion Of -a sacred ,contraa,"and it was effeCied 'that the
people -should not be sacs if ced to the whim of ean
iedividual. In the present instance it : bias" neither
hecessary nor expedient to Proceed as id 5,17.8, The •
-House wag not-,eyen bound to do so by what had
already been done, as-the circumstances under Which
-they acted formerly,' and. those under winch they .
had now to act, were- widely different. He telt,
it fo be 'his cfuty to 'protest against it, andshould,
therefore, take the sense of the House on the.,
subjeEf..
Mr. LAMB censured the delayewhich had 'taken
place, but nad no doubt of -the right of the lipu,e
toremedy the defed in the Constitution. A decla-
ration had, been made 1) the Long Parliament (which
the patriots of the present &ay thought ought t6,fiat-
nigh precedeet), to that effect. 1642 it was reH
solved, that it was the distinct and ancient law of,
Eiiglan I, that in the incapacity of the person hold-
log the executive: power, the nation could not be.
left without the means of preservation, and it was:
therefore forthe two ..Honses to take such 'measures
as might appear expedient. This, he contended .wes.
.sound do trine, though the concluion they carne to
in consequence was erroneous. He was di opinion
that the.represeutation Of the people was imperfect,
and that it might be, changed for the better, bet he
by no means agreed with the -Hon. Baronet (Sir F.
Burdett) geeerally., pf w hat anarchy might not
that /ion. hart. (who was so anxious to guard.apinst

anarchy) be the cane, sweeping away sn many Act*
of PArl.ament, and referring alPto-the decision of
popular a,seinbliei..; WIJA ould be more incon—
sistent ti,an the eon;rt.i.t74 thAt '; Eton.
,speaking thus :and a', it he Int;i7l'done ? it w:,3
but a,..Sess4n or, two agotbit
,he dovqd for a
.mi;tee iii'inquire into iheOtate of
of the p'eople, 'intending, as be, (Mr. L.) presumed,
to 'ground *a ,11111 theieun tor-the, ainet4dtnent of the
stune.- ,If that were-riot a feel House of &Aril:ions,
in his opinion,. why'didhe act thus,? Why.did he
seek a remedy whi,h must be 'illegal if t•heyf were
such as he dt scribed them to be ? The Hon. Gen-
ilernali then proceeded to cenStne the ilelay'OiCeli
had occurred. They thong-ht rt could not be cdn-
' stitutional for ihe Hou4e so to adjourn Iron, time to
time; leaving the executive power in the. hands of
whoever might chance to be Alihisters.: It was iin-
pdsSible not to sytni:Catitis,•ut
Thdl;recedent of ‘f7BB; he' tnantained, Wa's 001
plicable to the:preseht case. He then proceeded' tO
-speak-of the mode of ptaltorising a Ilt_lgeut, tn_xer-

cise the functions of floierity: The tuod'e. 'of pro-
eeeding by Addeess was not ,expedient as- well as
roost constitutional, and. the same -previsions coud
'be Made proceeding that way as, by Bill. Thee
'ought .ever to -view* the elecutive pow.er With sus-:
picion----nof with illy reeling of.animosity,,but with,
'a proper vies to 111'y:welfare of the iqition., He then -
argued on the itnproGAilitY of the Iteg,,ent's:being
,supported by the_ people opPosifrion to their own
:interests, and. in opposition to •P:trliament,, adverted
to ,the conduct 'of King .Williarn shortly after the
Revolution, and concluded, hoping the ,House would
reconsider the subject. ; • • . ' •
Mr., STEP:IEN thought the I:louse had a difficult,
part pet forth. Hu, contended their Condliet ought
to be'regulatetl byrgreat constitation3l ptaetices and
not-byi file proceedings in. the Cow is of L,aw,
. ,
'great constitntiprk3l. prineiple;,conid .b.e.e,tablistied'hy
a single precedent, whiCh they were no: merely rt+-
titled, absolutcly botind 't,) It was the
preet.ice,Of *thecOnstit.u.ion wh ch macie the Cori-
-siitutiun, and it. was difficult to find more than one,
.; precedent far some- of itS'inust sacred princtpies..
The Crown, 'for hereditary, hut tho-
,u(cesyon, differed .ffluch, tram [;;es suece,sien iO
scite. The pre ct,.:lent by ,k,s:zhich 44as.
estiblisherf was 'by that fin-.11.,-(1' on the .deatir'of
'Edward:VT. T;iat Aluitaten dying, two
sisters tMary and Elizabeth behind. In 'ordinary
. cases, tpe two stems hare nom declared to
ae co-heir:sses to their deceased brot'..ier; and as
such, woel„, hate been elettted tcl eguril 4 tares of
ettiseproperty. In the :Case of Stlqa;':iSlo:l to ..-ttie
. Crown, the Constitution dee:Lit (.1 alai Mary, being
toe ell=st, should- ascend the Tial'oite. That was
the only i,reeedetit 'to •
he. lOuPd. .After sonie fur-
ther ooservatinni: .on. the.ruleS. 0f.,-.the , succession'to
the Crown, he adverted to, thee. preCedent of 17814.
,wlitch he regarded notas -being' less than a preee-
thtit, or of less authority than a ploceeertig. ira a,
court of law, bur as being -more. He looked upon
it .as having established a new, canon of law.. The
'power could be constitutionally giveni.by Bill, -and
ought not td be: by address... ''!'he Regency
Bill. did not pass in ...1789 beCanse of the'happy re=
covert'• oflis Majesty. The proceedings of that day.
furnished a- full
~anticotnplete-preeedentlas they had
been ratified 14 .the "King. It 'yas with great sur
prise thathe heard that mode 'of proceeding, cen- .
sured as it liald been._ kin Act, he contended; would
be mete effeCtpal restraint inTroper exer-
cise of authority. than the declaration proposed to be
firacle address, .Iyillv•respeCt to the Great
Seal, -it had "been observed, that there was. this
distinction between the Revolution and 'the present
•
state of things,'Wat.:i King was theb Wanting as Vk ell
as a Great •Seal..-- eAny Silversnaiihe bad a seal been,
all that. 'was .wantihs, 'could , have supplied them:
with., -one, lant..theyeoply wanted .a seal -to give the
aoent of the King, 'and they had: at ,thrt,time. no
king. The two cases kkere very dissimilar, as, in
the present instanceevve have'alKing, Ontl whatever
tiny be done must be.i.done its the name
of G.eorge.
the Third The .present, heewould not say was
anaiogous"to of 1.788, unfortunately it was the
..-same. ---With respeet Co the alleged delay, he main-' •
tattild ir,,su Farffolii censure, was erititit'd
to approtratiou.' .It 'bad been stated, that the' Repoili
of, the, physiciansiiiortlecl no' hope • of the recovery
of, his Majesty.., He: had read: the Report a' second
thee, zindsa o. no cause for making so melancholy
a'statement: On reading it, he -found be
God !)' abUndant reason id- his Maje'sty •
woulp recover. ,All the-- Physicians ha,d stated
the cause of his Majesty's malady to be 'known ; it
Was stated to have proceeded front that fetal source:
Of sorrow -to the Royal Family, W,liich had been a'
subjet.: of_soMuch regret to the nation.. The Hon.
Gentk;rnAn , -with great feeling. to siicak of
the aillicting etrcutnstatices attending the death of
the Princess AFrrelia. He described;' in terms to ,
Which we cannot do justice, the distresS of the Royal
Parent when visiting his
.heloveVl it. was his
to mourn her hopeless state. White the parental••
feelingS:of his ,Majesty excitecl'adniirailoti, they held
out a, reasonable hofie,.- that .t.Cconstitittion like his,
unbroken, recover timo the. etfe:':.lS
~of the
shock ft had' redcived.. Every min who.could feel
tas a fathei, must sympathie 'in the dlsiress of his
Majesty; and reverence him. for his-virtuous ~.a ffec-
t ion towards his child. 1-W tears were hallowed—
to use the language of a'lkssi, who well" knew how
to affect the .heart , - -
" Some teelings.zre to mortals given,
With less of earth in tnein than heaven;
'And it there be a
. rom":pa6sion's dross refried and clear ;
'A tear so -thntre and icreek,
It wcruld not stain an ngers cheek ;
" 'll3 that which pious fathers shed,
a'guiktle.ss daughter's head."

It had been his Majesty's lot to contemplate, for
weeks and months, the distressing siluation of his
-child. He c6uid not but' feel much affeaed, when
'he read of the 'Manner ' in which his Majesty re-
..ceived Lhe Report of the-Physicians on the state of
his &tighter, i„and when he figured to himself his
venerable forth, approaching his child, only to mark
with his yet remaining senses the 'faultering voice
and fainting respiration of 'the.amiable. Amelia; he
wanted fortitude to repress yhe, starting tear. The
HOn.GentleMan then pay-a.new tributeofpraise to
the finites of the "Siovvreign, censured thvso who.

were so impatient at hearing his panegyric, and con-
d• rnned that spirit of-controversy which Onneces,
y impeded their progress, obs,rving at the same
ri,lle..that those who were so _
otr.delSy
dqd not,propose a remarkably •quick—motle of pro-
cL-ecting,'-as he remempered ihat in the Irish Rl' ha-
.fifteen days hartbeen lost on a former oecasioh
ire &bating on an address.

Mr. C.' W. W YNNE maintained it to be the duty of
thetWO-I-liiiiieSlO'Silpp!,y the deficiency iti the:Exe-
dutive Power. He thought irbetter to proceed by
Address, though he had no doubts as to'the legality
of giving the power by Bill. It' w:as merely a -ques-
tion of expediency', and whieheyer wily- they might
give the power, the act of giving-it would be equady
valid and binding. With respect .to what had
been said on the King's having ratified the pro-
ceedings of 1788, it should be observed, that the
,Kinu-Es Speech was usually considered the Speech.
of the Ministers, and was therefore but their rati-
ficationOf their own proceedings. 'lf no opposition
was made to the Address prop/used on that occasion;
it 'was becauSe no one was willing-to disturb the har-
Mony Which pret ailed on his M'ajesty's happy
,recovery. He censured the delay which had taken
place, :and descanted at length on the inconye-
, niences which plight, arise from the 'ski-pension:of
the Executive Power. When the House once as-
snined to i self th,e privilege of passing an Act nide-
,potident of: theyroyal 4anction, there was ,no knowing
•re it would' stop ; . it miglu. even proceed 4o tbe,
length ot, pasing a Bill tor abwisiting the.ropl au-
.lltori!y itself.
,Tv.e pre,:edeiit of ;788, having never
been aeted:on;Hva,s,ritther to be considered as ati opt
.Ilion expressed byt.ll 'lament than, a tneasureadOpt-
ed by it, and of he presumed to pos.
'a s' the ,sairce authOrit)-tn which proceedings actually
10.11,,wed up.were entti.ed.

Mr. 'WiLlistiFoito.4 Sdid, that after the ,very full
:dketissient Chien the •steejeet .had already- under
gorie, he would not trespasslong upon Otte attention-
-1)1 the House. Nothing, he 'thought, could appear
to .re reruark,i hie than the etirichik.tof. ;some Hon
~/entlemen upon this occasion,aster display-
.
;ins; the'greateSt, ingenuity in discovering the detects
'of the course.proposed, were unable to -perceive any
distithanteiges w Lefever in that which they in the
i'ecs:mmei ready/to aCkticiv.decten.
hat the proposition. of his Right How: Friend •vees
not free from all objection, it certaitily reeoriamenle'd
to the House '.to transcend its COLIMimi potters end.
adet'w a liu of proceeding unusual, objekaionaale;
and,. he.had.ahriost -said, anomalous, •it had not
recollected all the *analogies by which' it:was sue-
poited. But unusual and. objectionable a it naigo
appear in i'tse'lf, it w=as jUstified by the,thiture
Of. the case, and the necessity that -ekisltd. It
Seemed to be taken for -granted by sane Gentlethen
that an Address' was. the ranedy by Which. 'every,
thing was to be settled, and that after the creation'
of a Regent opon, their principle, every thing- would
goon naturally and easye but it was' singukit tot *ob-
serve, that in the very same breath they laid it down
diet the Regent could' have no talarePOwei than
they CyOuld agree to give him by a private-Under:.
standing ;, so that while they professed, or -rather
pretended, togi7e him the full executive autlicififyi,
they in reality meditated restrictions and, mOdifiCa-
tions.. He submitted whether this course
)vasepot
fatty as 'chargeable with fraud. and. trick -as:that
which seemed to, give' such mortal offence to. their
delicate feelings. The proposition now before them
was certainly objectionable; but it Was .well:that
they had it in their power, under such afilicting-cir,
eumstances, to proceed with such little deviation'
from the respectable authorities ; it Was founded, as
appeared to him, upon the principle of the Re-vOlu-
tion,. at least lie thought he might affirm, :that it
was founded upon such principles as those who took
the lead in that great work would: themselves,,
under 'similar circumstances, have adopted.. He,
rejoiced to find that the: discussions which had taken
place upon this occasion were not chapaCleiiied
by that spirit of animosity and intemperance
.w Inch aintortunately nytrked-their firstantroduetion
into that House. As to the question of the right in
the Prince it was to ' be avoided,. as leading to the
Most dangerous consequences, and he could „nqt
help observing, that the suggestionof the Honour-
able Gentleman savoured too trinch of that right,
and was in reality the source out of whiCh the qiies-
On of right grew to the first instance; The situa-
tion in which they 'stood was almost' important,. the
deficiency for.whieli they !Were Ici -provide was of a.
nature ,the Most delicate, and nothing,cbuld tend so
much to settle questions of the. kind, as to follow
precedent. It was easy indeed to deviate, but dif-
ficult to calculate the amount of those evils to.whieh
such deviation may lead. . It was the high tl stint
tion of those Curia, ,and of the,Constitution under
which they lived, and the House of Comtnonsecould
exercise its judgment on such a, question, divested of
pa,sion and Violence;. that it.could proceed in cool and
bloodless debate upon a subject which in other tittles
would have summoned armies to the field, and deso-
lated the land. Such was happily their • lngh dis-
tinction at present, and crireful
,should the,,y be of
'bringing into question' what was, formerly Settled,
and...Ca4h-ig doubt upon those principles wifiCli
were already established. He spoke in strong. terms ~
of 'approbaiion of the eontinfi of the Pi:ince of
WAeS, in waiting silently for the decision of .P,ar-
liament, and depot-Clog himself in a manner not
less dignified titan conStitutional. But highly as
he approved of his, conduct, he would 'not. pert- .
mit himself to be swayed IrOrn, what jnstice, and
the laws demanded. It was the duty of that House
to decide upon genetal principles, and weigh not
'the immediate but the remote consequences/ to
be expeCted from any Measure.. They should act,
not merely 'for the present, but for succeeding ge-
neiations. Upon •these grounds he concurred in
the manner of proceeding by Bill, but should reserve
his opinion upon the subject of limitations to a more
fit opporainity. Whatever system they now adopt-
ed they should remember that it was only for a tiine,
and a short time, and depending under all.circum-
stances upon tiie Constitution. They.might
with
iconfidence to that polar star inwhose,bright=
ness they tsould find guidance and seculity, though
darkness might cloud the night and storms disturb
the Ocean.

'Mr. STEWART, alter some obsbrvatious upon the

condua of thelrish Parliament-in 1784, -declared-
.
himseh unfavouratle to the proceeding by Bill.
GitAl"l'AN contended for the proiirictj of pro-
cercling by Address. Tile Constitution he said was
rendered for the pr,sent imperfed by the calamity
'which had befallen the Sovereign, and it was in-
cumbent on the. remaining estates -of the realm. to
\supply thatdetec.t. It was'incoutbelt on than, for
thee witsnoot her _body which could undertake it, and
-atr apffell to-the-people would be, in efFeet, to carry'
every thing back to primevai,anarchy. Tee coal-
munity had, an undOubted tight, to repair the Consti-
tutimi, :41101.-os they-had. entrusted that right—lCl
their Represeneatives, the. arliarnett had a right not
tO legislate while•one of. the- Po,wiets
_essential to
fegiskrture t wanting,.btit to place,thengselves in a
Way to create a tli.rd estate, in order that the nation
might be put- in possession of its own ConstFtuticia.
The right of the two Houses'of .Parliament to -ap-
point a Regent could no'r opinioU b-a displuted;
it t.tai a power jutified.b.y "iwcessity. The prece-
dent of the Revolution was of very high- aatltc.a-ity,.
it ird been. tried, the coUntrY-hadpaill tibedieliceto'
it, but the precedent of 1738 was deticient-In this
respeCt, and ought, if possible to be at•f;itled-.=•=;--'
To order the, King's ,Offwer fo" Make out a •com-
•mission was in faCt-to make out-a commission them-
AelVes ; it,was a selfrconvided pa of Parliament ; in
.the first instance, it woultl go to assume the pterogaff.
jiite of the King; and, in the Second, •to asstund tl.lO
;power of both'Hous,:s-of Parlbstnent. :Suppose tlide
'l*o Houses had sent an-order to the Commander iu
:Chief to make a' tiertaili 'disposition of the, army;
would lee .ohey such an order; atid,if he could nor
obey,could they-punish nisi refusal ? • Certainly; he,
thought not ; so that they would_ tiavein eXectitiye_
power-which could Lot punish. its• officers, and a
legislative. power -Which could not• command. the:,
the obeqieuce of its subjecst. As to llmitationS,-
he thong ht‘ t hem unnecessary under the present cir-
Cpmstances, but would not 'enter into that subject'
upon the, present decision.. •

Y.oRKE thought' the-only question befOre the
'House was, how it would supply tne_drfea of the '
royal authority. That the House could, not take
uptirritselt the functions ot royalty; he allowec4 but
the precedent ot the Itcvoirution he could izor
tier at all applicab'.e to the *present c,se. He con--
tended; that IL) -the:eye of the law the Throne ki as
whe;eas at
.the 1-I.t.:volutian it vacant, anS
all they had to tio). now w4s to create a 'll.(..sgent for.
tll4e4)urii(`,se of supplying: tho:ie tuirctior,s which 'had
6ecn suipenue4 in the.person ot the Sovene,;ign. .11-u
proceetjutte) tlettei.trnne.!AiltA.cout'set hey shoald.pur-•
sue, it would be qt?edient t i Ipptc the' prat'Aii.e ;of
prtc.Q.4cl-kts ;w ere-found to i3pply,be.con-,
tended that theyw+reie on4er no obligation to follow
them, unlesS one strong objection Could-be' poiuted.
Out. The la-vv:Of.Parliarnenti,w.asto be tOupd in the
proceedings .-ot Parlianittit,-,,,labd' among those pro-
el!eldings he. fhOnight (hi:, precedent *of- 1788, even if
it stood 'should .be followed, especially-after
bay ug re co ato ed.solonl Tivtrtr t -jduaiiils -Ahem=
But it was tlyealonebeing tountlea npon
ili.Crece'clents of nen;ty. the .Sixth, What
tince Was tkiefe. -bet Ween• Alie incapacity which
from infancy, and that whieharoiiv from a Cause
. like the pi e6elit th'ai. he; 00.140 sel, anti a 3
they-.were furnished with a- body of Parliatm-mfary
law upon the subject; It was .-their business TO abide
by it..
Mr. GRATTAN explained. • -

• Sir J. Nt wroßT.Anaintained that there were two
precedents,of the yeat. F7BB, between _which they
were to chooSe--those of-the Euglish,and Irish Var-
li'itiactitS, and the latter, -which wdsLiy*Address, he
par t icu layly. recootrnended.---He denied that- Lb ru
was any compatisou between. the circumstances of
the -country -rio,s.gi and in 17.88. The couritry wa
thenit peace, and ur,burthened 1:;), taxes, . and n'ts
Majesty was. twenty-two years, younger.. fie went
into long-detail upon the present situation tit
the country, and„dwelt paiticiaarly 0u.,0,ir pre-
dicament with. Siveden and •Arneriba., ,de--
precatud the practice' of introducing the ILlOnbreli.
and his sorrows into the debate, for the purpose 4.
influencing their decision, asserting,.that though ha
Was as loyal as any Man,.he•didtiot wish to Make
parade or a bo43t of it. after some observations.
upon'the• statd of frelpd, /he 'concluded,- by ex--
pressing an „opinion, that the influence of (ha
Prince. of Wales woad do more to tranquilize that .
country than any other circumstance. 7

Mr.ELLroT conceived that the question lay in
very narrow canvas's, fliough it had often given ris.4
to violent discussions and protracted debates. Subtle,
ties of refinement and. *tap trySical distinctionSM ght
easi:y be introduced, but he thOught that the iruz
portance of the subject ought to take it out of sod!
difficulties. .As to the .preildent relied on, his
jopinkt remained unshaken ;. Ise was anxious that it
Should be diselaimA and :subverted, for, if carded
into etfeat;T it Would be,,rn'ost injurious to the Con-
stitution .and to the 11;1,11 reisonage concerned hi
the proceedings: 'He hoped the inecedents taken
from such obscure times as-the Right Hon. Gentlez.
man (1)Ir. Yorke) resorted to, }vould not. be corn=
pared in. point Of weightor importance with. t e pre,
cedent of the
,Revolution. It had been Contended.
that, the Throe wan but - that Was only upon
the fiCtioh of the Constttution, which xonsidered the
King iturnorfal could not tie denie.d;"liowevEr,
that the executive' tbnClions were.suspended and im-
„paired. He,approved highly, of tie shoU•method
proposed by his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Ponsonby),
and thought that the Chaticel;or might retbse to put
the Great Seal to that whit:h had been proposed to
the House. Atter some further -ob:.ervations, lie
concluded with opposing the.Reportt,
Mr: H. ADDItiGTON supported 'the
,11:11;
con-
vinced that the precedent 01 w. 4 strictly ap
plicable to the present case. -In allusion-to what
had, fallen .from. the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir John.
Newport) respecting. ,the advanced- period of ,his
:11(,Iajesty's life, he,oCserved that -hts Mates beißg
twenty-two years older 11:an in ilsB, hq (Mr. A.)
had this .praotacal, experience,: that he: had enjoYed
so long the beneficial effects of his paternal cafe,
and therefore his gratitude was Caned forth,. 'T.113
Right Honourable Gentleman considered rhea )re-
cedent as affording the mast ibatutdry provision 4
whin the country could. derive, tor it seated as
a beacon to, guide Minister's
,in the course which
they ought to pursue. P-I^4 quoted the .opi-

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