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London, England, 1819-06-26 00:00:00

PARGA.

Sir C. Molcct: wished to know whether the
Noble Lord could now inform him of the date of
the accession of the Porte to the Treaty of Parka ?
Lord CASTLEREAGH answered (it was believed)
that the date of the accession was April '24,1819.
Sir C. MoNcK inquired whether the Noble
Lord had any objection to lay a Copy of the
Treaty before the House ?
Lord CASTLEROGH'S reply W 35 in so low a
tone, that we could not distinctly understand hint;
but, as well as we could corect„ the Noble Lord
stated, that Ise• had it not yet in his power to pro-
duce tilv document alluded to.

CASH PAYMENTS rm.L.
M. PEEL said, that en Amendment had been
made by the Flouse of Lords to the Bill respectin;,;
the Resumption of C:7,sh Payments by the Bank,
which bad lately passed the House of Commons.
He would! state the nature of this Amendment,
after first ob,erving, that to the Bill, as originally
btought an amendment hhd been made by ii
Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Mier). The
substance of that Amendment was, that- after 't he
Ist of May, , the Bank should, if they chose,,
hnvr the option to ply in the coin of the realm.
To this part of the an aint:ndment btu) been
made in the Lords to the effect that it sbrnitd he
optional with the Babk to pay in coin of the realm,
after the Ist .of May 1822. 'The Hon. Member
concluded by moving, that this amendment bit
now taken into considervion.

Mr. ELLitcx srlid, that he did not mean to nb*
iect to the ainetidment -of the Lords. T ab The ob
jeer of the.amtudrn, tit which he prepnsed tvr.s,
that the Kink should he obliged to take up its
small notes, acid until that was done he thought

tbnt cash payments would not be resumed. The
Hon. Member, in conclu.ion, observed, that if
this Mil had been more simple it would have been
lunch preferable, and that it would be much more
likely to he carried into execution if it had beet•►•
stripped of all the gniackery which had been in.
tro,!need into it.
Mr. MANNING took this opportunity of stating,
that so tar as his experience went, the utmost
attention lid been paid by the Bank to the awl).-
rity of Parliament. In order to defend the Bank
(tom the charge of meddling with concerns in
which they had no right to interfere, the Finn,.
Nember said that he could state with certainty,
that so far back as the year 1697, applications had
been made to the Bank for the public service. To
proof of such application, he could read a letter
written in 1.701, but perhaps the House would
be better pleased with levers written to the Bank
in the years 1806,and 1807, when Lord Grenville
and Mr. H. Petty were at the head of the Admi-
nistration. In one of these letters it was stated
that it would he of most material service to the
public if the Bank would advance two millions,
which could not be otherwise conveniently ob-
tained, owing to some delay in passing the Malt
Tax.—(Hear, hear !)—The Hon. Member made
Some objections to different parts of tine Bill; but
in so low a tone of voice,, that it was impossible
to bear him distinctly in the Gallery.
After some observations from Mr. Peel, in ex-
planation, and a few words from Mr. J. P. Grant,
Mr. Pearse, and Mr. Eloskisson, the 13!11, as
amended by the Lords, was read and agreed to.
ARMY - EXTRAORDINA RIES.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved,
that the House should go into a Committee of
Supply, to which Committee .Accounts of the Army
Exf raordioaries, 13,rracks, and of the Com-
misiatiat for L eland, were ordered to be re-

ferrtil.
"f he House .having resolved itself in the Corn-

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved,
that the sort of 1,200,0001. should be granted to
defray the expellees of the Extraordinaries of the
Army for Great ritain. ,
Colonel Davies objected to many of the charges
thrown on the imh:ic by-the unnecqssary esta-
blishm?nt!, and useless officers that were retained.
lie had tinittosood some reduction of the Mili-
tary College Establishmt-nt was to take place,
and complained of many abuses that -were suffered
to exist. 'I hese had come to his knowledge a
hundred fold since the inquiry into the Military
Establishments of the country, and be therefore
thought no apology necessary for giving notice,
that early in the next Session of Parliament he
should move for the appointment of a Select Com-
inittee to take into consideration the whole mili-
tary expenditure of the country.
Lord PAemEasToN had stated that some retitle-
tions would take placein the course of the year,
which were now about to be carried into effect.
Ii had, however, b, en misunderstood, if he had
be a :opposed 10 say tiny !eduction of the Military
College Establishment was intended. That Eista-
birdituent l e did not think was greater than the
fair rftinaiols of the service recrired. I-Ic did riot
considet' those orli'eer, to be useless which were
to be so by the Honourable Gentleman. His
g,nel-al assertion on the subject of abuses said to
exi:;t, he would meet with,a gener4l denial, and
would challenge the Honourable Member to
prioie his as.,ertion well founded, which he would
distinctly state be did not think lie would be able
to do. He thought 'it would have been more fair
and cantiid it the flon. Gentleman to state what
these abuses were, titan to throw out so general

an assertion. •
Colonel DavtEs hoped, after what the Noble
Lord bad now said, that next year, when he moved
for the appointment of a C7,mmittee, the motion
would not he opposed by him (Lord Palmerston).
Mr. Hume made some observations, which
seemed to prove that the sums expended on the
111ilitary Colleges were much greater than its ob..
jects necessarily required. "There were in that
Establishment 37 professors for- 300 students,
while the School of Woolwich, which, with its
branch at, Ponktnoul It, contained the same num-
ber otsettdeots, did riot cost the nation more than
9,0001. The Holt: Member then remarked upon
a sum of 248,7481. charged for the clothing and
other expellees of the British Army in the East
Indies, and also' upon a sum of 245,9421., dis-
bursed in the Artny-Estintates, and not accounted
for by the East India Company. He could not
nunderstand why the expences of the Civil Esta-
blishments in the West Indies had beenlincluded
in the Army .Accounts; Ile then took, an oppor-
tuni.y ',to press those points relating to the Colo-
nies,-which he had entered into upon former oc-
casions : he thought that all charges, civil and
relatiog to one Colony, should be classed
noder one head. He objected to the grant of
35001. to Sir Ralph Woodford,„ for the purchase
of certain premises in the Isla' :idol Trinidad, and
likewise to the grant of 40 or 50,0001. for the
building of a church, on tlie grounds, that es the
revenue
.of thlit Island was greater than its ex-
pences, there °tight to be neeneceSsity for any
charges of the nature described. ile.then adverted
to the increase of cxpeoce with regard to cloth-
ing, between this year and the last. He wished
to know why so large a sum as 39,961 t, was
charged in the Army Extraordivaries, when a
specific charge had been made _for theltrtiele al-
ready
"Mr. Hu,rossoll observed, ,that the I-lon. Gen-
tieman who spoke last, had not taken a correct
view of the purposes to which the money now
ralletl for was to be 'appropriated.---The items
&Oder the head of Army .Ettramdinaries were
icit charges not previously estimated, _and. came
dulyvithin the minute investigation of-the audi-
tors. of .Arroy Accounts. The Right Honourable
(gentleman then vindicated himself from the int-

'rotation of ever having wade any undue appro.
prlation of the moucy that came wibin his de-
partment and said, that it it could he
*proved
that he had done so, he would be ready to bear
all the lawny that would attach to such a dere-
liction of owy. With respect to the item for
had only "0,-observe, Ong. ,conse-
qoenee of a rise in several articles, and that of
leather particularly, an advance of 15 per cent.

was granted 'to the Col-pods-of -Cavairy.over and
above the ordinary allowances.
Lord PALMERSTON said a few words in expla-
naoon,observing thAt there were only-thirty Pro'-
lessors at the Mili,ary College instead of thirty-
six, as stated"!4ll the [lon. Member.
Mr. Hume remarked, his 'quer.olon on the sub-
ject of the charge for troops in India remained

'the CHANCELLOR of the E%CIiFQUER said, the
expcnce was to be bOrn4by the East Jradia Corti-
patty, between whom :Intl the Goverument there
was a rn•unintz account.

Humu-Aiad before called the attention of
the Chancellor of the Exchequer to this'snbject.
Ile thought sotne provision ought to have been
'Mille in the present year for the debt . due to the
East 3 oha Company.
11Ir. Lose defended the Estimates before the
House, which he contended had been improved
of lire years. The-Hon. Gentleman, he thought,
had reason_triehe satisfied with the explanations
given. In the first instance he objected to the
general statement, and he was then told, if he
t,,ished for further explanation, he had only to
snore tor it, and have,it. More he thought could
not be expected. He repeated what his Right Hon.
Friend had stated, that the warrant which he had
mentioned, and which he could not approve more
than he (Mr. Long) did, had, all the time he had
known the Treasury, been constantly before them,
and had been sent out to the Governors of the
different Colonies since the last peace, with an
intimation that its provisions must be strictly con-
formed to.

Mr. C. Utr-rcniNcoN noticed the charge for the
Commissiniw and Auditing Establishment at Lis-
bon, and wished to know if it had answered the
purpose for Ivhich it was formed
The CHANCELLOR of ti:e IfAcHEQuett said, the
expence of that establishment was certainly coo•
siderable, but it had liven found (MC of great
public utility.
The motion was then agreed to.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUEIt then
moved the•followirig grants :
Forthe Army Extraortinaries for Ireland
To make up the sum of 2,000,0001. to be applied in
concert with the King of the Netherlands under the
Treaty of 1814,. to. meet the charge of erecting
Forttr,SeS in the Low Countries

Mr. 1.113.1 R unde►stoo'l this charge was to be
met by the French Government.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, no
part of tie exnence had, or i••ould fat! on tl►is
country, though for a time it had to advance the
triOne
Mr. fluTcutssoti 'Wished to know if the
money thus to be expended would not otherwise
have been pnid,into.the English Tre/istny.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, the
engagements under which this advance was to be
made were entered into before the battle of Water-
loo. :plc glorious .antl fortunate events of lels
had enableo„us to .throw on the Government of
France that expence which would otherwise have
fallen on this country.

The motion vas then carried.
The following grants were then moved, and,
after some con'ver.s:atinn, agreed to

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To enable his Majesty to pay a like sum to the Gayer-
nors of Queen Anne's Bounty, for the augmenta-
tion of the Stipends of the Poor Clergy £lOO,OOO
Ti enable his INlajesty to pay A like sum, in addition
to the maintenance provh ed for the Poor Clergy in
Scotland - 10,000
_

To defray. the interest for three years on the sum of
30,000!
To ni;:kc good the deficiency in the Fee Fund, April

stll, ISi5
For sundry improvements from Bango Ferry Church
Gri lie, in North Wales
To improvements to be done to Holyhead Harbour
in the yeartßi9
Foi repairs to the Harbour of Lyme
Atter a kw words from Sir J. YOEKEI which
cotdd not be heard,

Mr. WILLIAMS objected to the vote, and con.
tended that the work in question was a complete
job. The Harbour of Lyme could never have
watex enough for large ships, while the Road of
Portland, which was safe for any ship and any
wind, was in the immediate neighbourhood. An
unreasonable piejudice was entertained against
the Portland Roadstead.

Sir J. YoaKE said, there was no man who had
ever sailed op or down Channel that could not
hear testimony to the excellence of Portland
Roads. But the Lyme Harbour was au excellent,
and- would be a most useful shelter to All the
coasting trade.
Mr. IVILLIAms explained.
'the Resolution was agreed to,.
The following sums were then voted
For the Board of Agriculture 1.1,000
For the Forts on the West Coast of Africa. :18,000
Superannuation Allols•ance to Retired Consols