The Sun.
London, England, 1844-03-05 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENI NG, MARCH 5, 1844.

to 47s per cwt. Para taken in at 28s 6d for good fair red ; two
lots sold at 29s per cwt. This afternoon Trinidad sold at 46s
to 46s 6d for low grey.
RICE.—In cleaned Rice a good deal has been done at 14s
to 17s for Patna, and 21s to 26s per cwt for Carolina. This
afternoon Bengal Rice at 21s for good middling white; sea
damaged fetched 9s to Its 6d per cwt. Privately some parcels
of East India Rice were sold.
SAGO.—This afternoon Sago is in lehs request : good large
Pearl at 18s to 18s 6d, middling taken in at 17s, and small
brown at 15s to 16s, being the full value. Tapioca only part
sold at 5d to 7d per lb.
COFFEE.—The business transacted privately in West India
Coffee has been at full rates, but the su; ply at market is not
sufficient for the increasing wants of the trade. This after-
noon the demand privately was brisk for Foreign Coffee,
and prices are still on the advance, St. Domingo sell-
ing at 31s to 325, and Brazil .31s to 34s per cwt;
some merchants will not sell at these rates, owing
to the excited state of the Homburgh market. East
India Coffee met with less attention, but former rates were
sustained. 3.016 bags were submitted to public competition
and nart'y sold. Batavia, fine ordinary mixed pale 42s to 441,
gr od ordinary mixed pale 32s 6d to 335, ordinary3ls to 31s 6d,
area damaged first class 30s 6d to 37e, second class 28s to 295,
third class 22s 6d to 265, fourth class 21s ; Singapore Java,
good ordinary pale 38s 6d; a small part of the Batavia was
1 taken in at 38s 6d to 495. Of Ceylon, by private contract some
parcels were sold at 68s for good ordinary.
TEA.—Since this day week the market has presented a
lively appearance ; the trade have been eager purchasers of
black and green tea: large parcels have been taken by specu-
lators, and prices have again advanced id, making the rive, as
compared with last public sales rates, Id to lid per lb. To-day
28 Pekoe Ouchain, 30 Hyson, 1,204 Young Hyson, 590 Sou-
chong, 223 Imperial, 380 Gunpowder, and the biddings were
brisk at the sales for all descriptions of Tea, and the advanced
rates established in the private market were fully sustained for
Congou and Twankay ; Gunpowder and Young Hyson went
at stiff rates, but Flowery Pekoe must be considered 2d. per
lb lower.
Rum, RRANDY AND HOLLANDS.—For all descriptions of
Rum prices have eurther advanced. Jamaica rum at an ad-
vance on previous rates of Id to 2d per gallon ; in second
hands 700 puns sold at 3s to 5s 6d for 30 to 36 over proof of
low to fine quality ;Calcutta, proof with certificate, is 10d to
Is 101/2d paid For Demerara and Leewards, prices have fur-
ther improvsd, the former at 2s 10d to 3s 2d for 30 to 38
per cent over, and the latter at 2s 0/Ed to 2a I d proof strength.
For Brandy the market has a firm appearance ;
we quote Cognac, best brands of the vintage
of 1838, hhds at 5s I Id, puns 5s 9d ; ditto, 1839, hhds 5s Bd,
puns 5s 6d ; ditto, 1840, hhds 5s 6d, puns 5s 5d ; ditto, 1641,
hhds 5s 4d, 5s 2d ; ditto, 1842, hhds Ss 3d, puns 5s I, mid
marks 3s 8d to 4s 6d, and low 3s to 3s 7d per gallon. Geneva
for shipping is wanted at is 10d to Is lld ; fine for duty is 2s
4:1 to 3s per gallon. English Spirits 10s 2d per gallon, cash,
and lOs 3d for single puncheons. 'Fo-day 2s ld to 2s 2d paid
for proof Leewards. 3s to 3s 3d for fair and fine Demerara, 3s
3d to 3s 9d for ord to mid Jamaico, and is 10d to Is lld for
proof Calcutta.
SPICES.—A iively demand has existed for Cassia Lignea,
and prices have advanced Is per cwt for the lower qualities.
This afternoon the market for Pepper was quiet ; Sumatra
sound nearly all taken in at 3d for good light ; sea damaged
sold at 2d to 3d ; a few lots of sound sold at 311 d ; white
partly sold at 58d to sid for mid rather mixed. Pimento mid
at 3d to aid per lb ; four cases of Nutmegs sold at 3s to 3s 7d.
;s bast co.—Madras at 2s 9d to 3s 6d, being an advance ou
the last quarterly sale of 2d to 3d per lb. Bengal at a small
advance ; the sorts most in request have been those from 3s to
3s 9d. The demand for Spanish Indigo is on the increase,
and prices are advancing.
01 r.s. —There has been an increased demand for all descrip-
tions of common Fish Oils. Cod has advanced to 33/ to 33/ 10s
per tun. Pale Seal at 341 lOs to 35/, and Southern at 321 to
351 per tun. Sperm Oil at 681 per tun for British. Linseed.
Oil at 27s to 27s 3d per cwt on the spot. In Olive Oil
rather higher rates given for better qualities ; Gallipoli 46/ to
471, Spanish 421 to 421 10s, and Barbary 411 to 11l lOs per
tun. Cocoa Nut Oil has been in request, Ceylon fetched 30s 6d
to 31s per cwt. Rape Oil at 35s Sd to 36. for pale, and 34s lid
to 35s per cwt brown. Palm Oil firm ; fine quality is 28s to
28s 6d per cwt. North American Lard Oil bought in at 42/
per tun.
TALLow.—In the Russian Tallow market prices have im-
proved. On the spot 40s 6d to 41s per cwt paid for P.Y.
Candle of first quality. For delivery 41s 6d to 42s paid for
the last three months of the year. South American fetched
35s 6d to 395, and very low soft 3ls 9d to 32s 6d ; second sort
St. Petersburgh Yellow Candle 37s 3d to 39s 9d, and Italian
37s 2d to 39s 9d. Town Tallow 40s 6d to 41s nett cash.

had pursued with reference to this measure as Chairman of the
Committee. In thatcharacter he had refused to hear the soli-
citor for some of the ?lilies, on the ground that he was not a
Parliamentary agent.
Sir GEORGE GItEY thought that the decision that had
been come to by the Committee was a correct one, but at the
same time, he considered that it would be better that the peti-
tion should lie on the table, in order that it might be ascertained
what the practice was.
Lord G. SOMERSET considered that the only party that
should be excluded vas a paid barrister, but that any other
agent, whether Parliamentary or not, was included in the
Standing Order.
Mr. STRUTT thought if the Committee had power to ex-
clude counsel they had power also to exclude solicitors. He
was, however, willing that the matter should be adjourned to
consider the subject thoroughly. For his own; part he thought
that the word " agent' meant " Parliamentary agent."
Mr. GREENE considered that Parliamentary agents could
only be heard before the Standing Orders' Committee.
Mr. AGLIONBY said that when he sat on Committees on
private Bills, they always considered that the word " agent"
signified " Parliamentary agent."
Mr. STRUTT said that he had been referred to as having
allowed a solicitor, not a Parliamentary agent, to appear for
parties in the Committee on the Lancaster and Carlisle Rail-
way Bill. He could only say, that if such was the fact, it had
occurred without his knowledge.
The SPEAKER said he agreed with the opinion expressed
by the Hon. Member for Derby. When he (the Speaker)
held the office of Chairman of the Standing Orders' Committee,
persons not being Parliamentary agents were not allowed to
appear before Committees of that House for other parties. He
was decidedly of opinion that Parliamentary agents were the
only persone ad:nitted by the Standing Orders to appear before
Committees of that House.
Mr. ESTCOURT. fullylconeurred in the opinion expressed
by the Speaker.
After a few words from Lord G. SOMERSET,
The SPEAKER said that the agents were responsible to
the House for the fees ; under those circumstances no person
ought to be before the House, except through a Parliamentary
agent.

It must be apparent to every member that much of the time of
the House had been consumed by discussing Bills that never
were intended to pass into a law. Since he had had a seat in
that House, from four to five months of the session had been
wasted moon all manner of ille debates—(Londi cheers from the
Ministerial side of the House)—upon questions in which the
public took no interest. In the session of 1840, gentlemen on
the other side of the House consumed nearly the whole of that
session in the most idle, and as regarded the public interest, the
most worthless motions—not worthless to them, because their
object was to get hold of place, power, and pelf.
No doubt the Gentlemen who sat behind the Treasury Bench
had, as well as those who sat on that Bench derived consi-
derable advantage from the change, but that change
had produced no advantage to the people of this coun-
try. How had the time of the House been consumed dur-
ing the last Session? Parliament had met on the 3d of Fe-
bruary, and during the months of February, March, April,
and May they had passed 26 Bills ; during the month of
June they had passed 10 Bills; and during the month of July
20 Bills, while in the three first weeks of the month of August,
during which alone the House had sat, forty-four Bills had
been sent up to the other House. Was that a proper mode of
conducting hudness ? No one could defend that system. The
House of Lords would, while the present party was in power,
pass any Bills which they might think proper to send up, but
under the late Government a certain legal Lord had thrown
bundles upon bundles of Bills under the table, upon the plea that
they had been sent up at too late a period of the session to have
proper consideration given to them. He hoped that the state-
ment which he had mule would satisfy the majority of the
House—( A laugh)—that it would be greatly Coil-
ducive to the health of the Members, and to the interests .of
the country; that they should legislate for the people,
during hours when their mental faculties were in a proper state
of activity and clearness, and not when they were muddled.—
( A laugh.) The Hon. Member concluded by proposing the
motion of which he had given notice.
Mr. BROTHERTON seconded the motion.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER could hardly
persuade himself that the Honourable Gentleman was
in earnest in making such a proposition to the House.
He gave the Hon. Gentleman every credit for his anxiety with
regard to the health of the Members of the House, but it was
not so much the discussing of matters at a late hour of the
night which wes prejudicial to their health, but the being
obliged to hear long speeches at early and late hours.—
(Cheers.) When Hon. Gentlemen got up upon all subjects
and treated them with dissertations on the corn-laws and Ire-
land, it produced a degree of yearning and lassitude which was
most injurious.—(Loud cheers and laughter.) When
the earlier portion of the night was occupied in
discussing useless subjects, it rendered it necessary
for them to sit up late to forward the public busi-
ness. Unless they sat up late for the purpose, they would
have no opportunity of doing any business at all. The
Hon. Gentleman complained of the inattention and haste with
which they discussed public measures, and he said that
while they passed twenty-six Bills only in the first part
of the session, they passed a considerable number of Bills at the
end. But Hon. Gentlemen who took up the time of the House
in discussing useless subjects were the cause of this. The dis-
cussion of many Bills was frequently put off at the request of Hon.
Gentlemen themselves, who wished to consult their constituents.
It would be found that those debates, which occupied the time
of the House after twelve o'clock, were those which were begun
before that hour. There might be occasions where
great public interests required that public measures should
be introduced and discussed at any hour, how-
ever late, and he thought that the House would act its
the manner most conducive to the public interests, by not con-
senting to a specific resolution of this kind. He had no fear of
their health being injured so long as they had the Hon. Gen-
tleman opposite amongst them (Mr. Brotherton), who watched
over the early hours of the House with so much amenity and
consideration.—( Cheers.) So long as he might remain a
Member of this House he was sure they would not waste their
time or their constitutions in the way so dreaded by the Hon.
Member for Coventry.—( Hear, hear. )
Mr. BROTHERTON rose, and there was general cheering
from all sides of the 110113 P. The Hon. Gentleman said he
should trouble the House only with a word or two. The
Hon. Member for Coventry had seen the very poor success
which had attended his (Mr. Brotherton's) efforts en
this subject, and had kindly come forward with his
powerful aid, and he trusted that he would have a
larger minority to support him than he had hitherto been able
to command. He did think that if the proposal of his
Honourable Friend were carried it would be found
exceedingly useful, and that if they adjourned re-
gularly at early hours they would materially facili-
tate the business of the House, and do no injury to the
public interests. The remarks which had fallen from the
Right Honourable Gentleman the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer, brought to his mind an anecdote of Queen Eliza-
beth. That goed Queen had, on one occasion, sent
down a message to her faithful Commons, admonishing them
not-to consume se much time in long speeches and useless mo-
tions.—( Loud cheers and laughter.) If the right good Queen
of the present day were to send down a similar message to
that liovse—(Loud cheers)—no one would deny its appro-
priateness, and, for his own part, he should be the first to join
in a vote of thanks to her Majesty for her most gracious
communication.—( Loud cheers.) He was sure there
were many speeches delivered in that House that might be
usefully curtailed, and many motions brought forward that they
would have lost nothing had they never heara of.—(Cheers. )
For his own part, he seldom troubled the House with
motions—( Hear, hear)—and he was not aware that he had ever
made any long speeches—(Cheers)—and in supporting the
present motion, tie did so because lie thought it ought to be
carried, though Hon. Members had the remedy in their own
hands if they chose to adopt it. Hon. Members in that
House often talked of the wisdom of our ancestors,
but they seemed to forget that those ancestors
always did their work by day-light. It was
well known that House could not adjourn until four o'clock in
the day, but then our ancestors assembled at four in the
morning, determined not to sit after four in the
afternoon, unless there were forty Members. He had a sug-
gestion to make, which he thought might be usefully acted upon.
It was that the House should not sit after twelve o'clock, unless
eighty Members were present. Whilst he threw out this sug-
gestion, he considered it perfectly useless to atttempt to carry it
out as the House was then constituted. He would therefore only
support the resolution of his Hon. Friend (Mr. Williams),
though of course he knew too well from past experience that,
excellent as the proposition would be in practice, the House
would not sanction it.
The House then divided when there appeared—
For the motion ... l6
Against it ...
Majority against the motion ..... —l3O
(LEFT SITTING.)

lECOURSE OF EXCIL
Amsterdam CF. 12 6
Ditto, at sight l2 4
Rotterdam 9 U l2 61
Antwerp
ilamburgh M.B. 13 15
Altona l4 0
Paris, 3 days' sight 25 70
Ditto, 3 months 25 90
Marseilles
Ilourdeaux
Frankfurt on Maine

LNGE.—(THIS DAY.)
Gibraltar —
Leghorn 3O 75
Genoa 25 95
Milan
Venice 47
Naples 384
Palermo, per oz 1176
Lisbon: 536
Oporto 536
Rio Janeiro 23
Bahia 23
Bucnos Ayres
NewYork,2ldys sight
Philadelphia
PRICES OF BULLION, PER oz.
Foreign Gold, bars...E3 17 9
Portugal Gold Coin 3 17 5
New Doubloons..... 0 0 0
New Dollars 0 4
Silver in Bars 0 4 11

PQtersburgh, 3 Us... 36A

Berlin .

7

Vienna, effec. fl. 3 M 957
Trieste, ditto
Madrid 37

Cadiz

Bilbao 36
Barcelona 36

Sevilla —

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

(THIS EVENING.)

H OUSE OF LORDS.
ROYAL ASSENT. _ .

-. -
Their Lordships met to-day at Four o'Cleck, for the purpose
of giving; the Royal Assent to several Bills :—Tho Commis-
sioners were the Lord Chancellor, the Duke of Buccleugh, and
the Earl. of Shaftesbury.
The following are the Bills which received the Royal As-
sent, the Horse Racing Bill, the Officers at Sea Bill, the Me-
tropolitan. Improvement Bill, and Sangs Naturalization Bill.
Their :Lordships then adjourned during pleasure.
Their :Lordships assembled at Five o'clock.
SAM GRAY. _ _

The LC/RD CHANCELLOR presented a petition from a
person of the name of Samuel Gray, who stated that he had
been tried/ four times for the offence of shooting at persons in
Ireland, and that on the last occasion he was convicted. An
objection had been raised, he said, to the peremptory chal-
lenge which he had claimed. That question came on for dis-
cussion before the Court of Queen's Bench in Ireland, and the
decision was against him. Re wisned very much to appeal to
their Lord: ;hips' House against that decision. He was, how-
ever, destitute of funds necessary for the purpose, and prayed
thair Lordships to provide him with funds. He (the Lord
Chancellor) feared that their Lordships had no means of
doing that.

CORN-LAWS.
The Earl of YARBOROUGH presented petitions from
Lincolnshire. against any alteration in the corn- laws.
Lord BROWNLOW presented 52 petitions from places in
Yorkshire tc.. the same pifect.
The Earl of DEVON presented several petitions to the
same effect, 'hut the designations of the petitioners were not
heard in the gallery.
I'RESBYTERIAN MARRIAGES.
The Marquis of NORMANBY wished to put a question to
his Noble Fiend on the Woolsack with respect to Presbyterian
marriages. He wished to ask his Noble and Learned Friend
whether it II as intended to re-appoint the Committee of last
session on this subject?
Lord LYN DHURST said that the Law Lords in that House
were divided. in opinion upon a case which had come before the
House. As !ma on as they had come to a decision, he would move
for the re-a pi )ointment of the Committee.
IRIS H LAND TENURE COMMISSION.

The Marquis of CLANRICARDE wished to put some
questions to }.is Noble Friend opposite at the head of the Irish
Land Tenures Commission, which he did not think would re-
quire that he should make any motion on the subject. There
was already F revalent in Ireland, and to a great extent in Eng-
land also, tha• t the suffering of the Irish people was owing to
the exorbitar t rents exacted by the landlords. The appoint-
ment of the t commission was calculated to aggravate the error' •
for the Com missioners stated that although they had no power
to adjaclit sat e between landlords and tenants yet they would
receive a rq information with respect to particular cases which
could ill ustrate the whole subject. He believed that most
pernicior is notions had been encoueaged by the appointment of
the Corn mission, and by the conduct of the Commissioners so
far. Es ery man of sense must know that if the land-
lords were to give up all claim to rent,
and th(t tenants in possession were to have the
land in fee, there would be no diminution of the general
misery, and no increase of the national wealth. The Com-
mission had no power to alter the law of real property, and it
was, the irefore, a mockery and delusion of the people. It bad
kept up and propagated the notion that the landlords exacted
exorbit cut rents, and gave rise to innumerable newspaper pa 1...-
graphs of a most pernicious tendency. For instance, a para-
graph • went round the papers that a Noble Friend of his had
lowere, I his rents ten per cent ; but, a fortnight afterwards the
papers said that they were sorry to learn that the statement
was us 'true. Why were they sorry ? They ought rather to be
glad tl mat there was no occasion to lower the rents.—( Hear.)
The c ry about fixity of tenure had been the cause or was
suppos ed to be the cause of the appointment of the Commission.
The gr tatest objection he had to the Landlord and Tenant
Comm ission was that it was pleaded in bar of all other measures
for the improvement of Ireland. There never was a better
opportu mity than the present for the Imperial Parliament to
turn its attention to Ireland with the view of affording employ-
ment to the great mass of the population. Never was there
a momer ttat which the Government could raise money with more
advanta, ge than at the present time. The questions he had to
put wei e firstly, whether the Commission contempleted an
alteratit so of the law which would affect leases, and covenants
entered into previous to the issuing of the Commission ;
secondly r, whether they had prepared any Report as to the
proporti on of rent to the value of land. And thirdly, whether
they pr( 'posed to report the whole evidence taken before the
Commis won.
The I IBA of DEVON said their Lordships would see that it
would be ...iirnpossible for him to give an answer to the first two
questions of the Noble Marquis. After stating. the course
the Comm n ission had taken with respect to their inquiry, the
Noble I ;a, 51 said it was their intention to report the
whole of ; the evidence taken before the Commission.
He could onl y answer that the whole of the cases inquired into
would be rep arted.
The Marc Luis of CLANRICARDE said that it was some-
what satisfae tory to know that the cases upon which the Re-
port would b a forwarded would be reported also. An inquiry
into the tenu re of land in Ireland, was really an inquiry into the
condition of the peasants; for there were very few labourers
who were nc t paid in part by the letting of land on a principle
analogous to that of the allotment system in this country. He
again asked was it intended to make any alteration in existing
covenants b etween landlords and tenants ?
The Earl of DEVON-1 must decline to answer so delicate
a question.

MAGISTRATES IN IRELAND.
The Ma rquis of NORMAN BY moved for a return of the
number er ,d the names of the Stipendary Magistrates appointed
in Ireland since the Ist of January, 1841.—Ordered.
Their 1 ~ordships Adjourned at a Quarter-past Six o'Clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Fll6 3ritAx E a:took the Chair:shortly before Four o'Clock.
ROYAL ASSENT.
. Pulman, the Deputy Usher of the Black Rod, appeared
at %No • table, and summoned the House to the House of Lords,
to Ix, :ar the Royal assent given by commission to several Bills
wl ach had been agreed to by both Houses of Parliament, for
wt licit see Lords' report.
The Yarmouth and Norwich Railway Bill was read a second
tirr e, and ordered to be committed.
"he second reading of the Epsom and South Western Rail-
way Bill was postponed.
COLCHESTER AND IPSWICH RAILWAY.
Si r WM. HEATHCOTE in presenting a petition from Sir
Robe a Harland with respect to the course pursued by tie
Comt sit tee on the Standing Orders in regard to this Bill, wished
to ha re the opinion of the House as to the course that he