The Sun.
London, England, 1828-08-19 00:00:00

TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN.

Plymouth, Saturday, Aug. 16.
SIR,--You will perceive by the above, that we are now
at Plymouth, much against our inclinations, after experi-
encing almost certain destruction, by being run foul of by
a4other ship on the night of the 9th (Saturday last), the
wind blowing very strong at the time, which carried away
our bowsprit, two anchors, aid foremast, and otherwise
damaged us so much, we were obliged to put back to this
place to undergo repairs.
We had a very rough passage, but had got about 500
miles from land, so that nothing but the greatest mercy
could have preserved us.
Miss Cramer was so much alarmed as to be unwell
ever since.
The other ship also suffered very severely, losing her
foremast, all her sails, yards, and top-gallant masts.
,The confusion was so great, that the sailors were going
about unable to perform their duties, and calling upon
God to help them, expecting every time the vessels struck
that one or both would go down ; we were so entangled
by our foremast Laving fallen across their deck, that it
took some time to cut away.
The greatest praise is due to Captain Delano for his cool,
seamanlike, and manly conduct; the other Captain being
so-much alarmed as scarcely to be able to give orders.
The vessel was called the City of Waterford, from
Waterford, bound to Quebec, going for a cargo of timber,
with 16 passengers and a crew for a new ship building at
Quebec, having altogether 21 Seamen on board, six of
whom, with the second mate, were so frightened they
to make
and
a
jumped on board us, and remained till morning.
Captain
Delano
'lays it will take about a
You will therefore be pleased to make the Managers of the
Bowry Theatre acquainted with the cause of Miss Cramer's
ao
ling
a-s
w set
eek aboutn mCO men at work
us fit for sea
a
bh.. And that it is not her fault but
delay as soon as poss i
stay at 'os y an • till the
loss to her being obliged t
a great
ship is ready.

I am, Sir, yours obediently,
W. G. PLUMER.

VEGETATION.—The garden of Mr. CALEB
liEwirr, of the Rising Sun, in Gawsworth, presents a
singular instance of the power of vegetation. About five
years ago, the stump of an old gooseberry bush, which had
been pulled up and thrown about the yard for nearly three
months, was employed in the formation of a fence, along
with the stumps of several other bushes. No further no-
tice was taken of this until a few days ago, when it was
discovered that the forgotten stump was thickly covered
with very fine ripe gooselierries, -which, when gathered,
measured nearly foee quarts,—Macclesfield courier,

LONDON.
TUESDAY EVENING, AUGUST 19, 1828.

but let him pacify Ireland, and he will be en-
titled to the eternal gratitude of his country. We
have repeatedly said that we thought the Duke of
WELLINGTON could carry the Catholic Question
when it would be sure to fail in other hands,
and for this reason—that the Aristocracy and
the Church Establishment would repose a con-
fidence in one so devoted to their welfare,
which they would not extend to others, perhaps
equally worthy, but less influential. It is idle to
attempt to blink a question of such magnitude—
a question which agitates seven millions of
people, and alarms as many more? No ; the thing
must be done—awl the Duke of WELLINGTON
has penetration enough to appreciate the neces-

sity of doing it quickly, while yet the boon wi

be received as a blessing, not extorted as a right
The speech of Mr. DAwsoN may be consi

siered as the sentiments of the Duke of WEL.

LlNGTON—breathing emancipation and peace

Ireland.

The Gazette de France of Saturday evening
is the only French Paper received. Its contents
are not important : it pretends to deny the truth
of the statement that the Ambassadors of Austria
and England had remonstrated with the French
Government respecting the sailing of the Expe-
dition to the Morea. This appears rather odd,
for the Gazette, in the same breath, admits
that England and Austria, on learning the
departure of this expedition, felt some uneasi-
ness with respect to the spirit which is to direct
it, and the ultimate practical object of it."
The Expedition will not be able to sail before
to-morrow.

The following is an extract of a letter from
the Agents of Lloyd's at Richibucto, Liverpool,
N. 8., dated the 14th July, 1828 :
The depth of water at the entrance of the harbour is at
best tide 18 feet, and at common tide 16i. When off the
harbour, in six or eight fathoms water, vessels should run
ini keeping two large beacons in a line until near the sand
hill, and then run along the shore N.W. in two and a half
to three fathoms water until they are in safety. A large
buoy is laid down in five fathoms water outside the bar
for a guide, which buoy may be seen upwards of a league
when at sea.

The Nuremberg Correspondent of the 10th
inst. says, on the authority of letters from the
Banks of the Danube, dated the 4th, that fears
were expressed at Constantinople for the life of
the SULTAN. The belief of the approaching
dissolution of the Turkish Empire prevails like
4 kind of fatality among his principal States-
men. The inhabitants of Constantinople, and j

With respect to the great point at issue between
his Lordship and Col. NAPIER, we think that
the following extract will give his Lordship all
the advantage which he claims :
" I have already admitted that this Dispatch was, as far as
manual operation was concerned, undoubtedlywritten in Bru-
ton-street, but I repeat, that it was a mere compilation and
arrangenient of my original dispatches, all and every one of
which were written and dated on board theflibernia ;
that it was so arranged and compiled under the special
directions of the Secretary of State—that it contained no-
thing that was not contained in them, and omitted nothing
but that which it would have been equally cruel and absurd
to have proclaimed to the world. I was at the time, and
I still am, decidedly of opinion, that Mr. Canning was
quite justified in desiring that arrangement, and that he
would have been quite unjustifiable if he bad needlessly ex-
posed individuals to the vengeance ofJuuot, or bad gratui-
tously informed the French Commander that such or
such forts in the Tagus might be successfully attacked,
with such or such a number of troops; for, in the sup-
pression of inch facts and such circumstances, and in the
omission of such remarks as were likely to offend the So-
vereign to whom I was about to he accredited, (and in this
degree only), did my published dispatch vary from the
originals out of which it was compiled. And I did then,
and I do still, consider that I should have been more liable
to the imputation of affixing to my dispatch an erroneous
date, if I had dated it from London, than by retaining the
date under which every part, I might also say every sen-
tence of it, was originally written. Colonel Napier terms
the omissions in that dispatch, " a reasonable bill of ex-
ceptions, truly !"—I repeat, that, it would have been both
cruel and absurd, not to have made such exceptions."
From this it appears, that the Dispatch
was actually rewritten by his Lordship, at Mr.
CANNING'S request, for political reasons only
We have not room to enter into the dis•

We point attention to the Speech of Mr.
DAWSON at the Anniversary Meeting of the
Protestants of Londonderry, and the comments
of our Cotemporaries on that extraordinary
effusion. It is well known that Mr. DAwsoN
is brother-in-law to the Right Hon. Mr. PEEL,
and one of the Secretaries to the Treasury—in
fact, a very prominent member of the Govern-
ment. These circumstances give tenfold im-
portance to what Mr. DAWSON 11AS spoken.
He said—" I speak here as a Member of
Parliament, as a 'Member of the Govern-
ment, and as a Citizen of the World. Is
it possible that I can look with apathy upon
the degraded state of my Catholic coun-
trymen ?--(Laud hisses.")--Certainly not ;
and Mr. DAwsoN, much to his honour, has
spoken out the truth—that something must be
done for Ireland, and that speedily. We look
upon Mr. DAWSON'S speech as the prelude of
what his MAJESTY'S Government are about to
do for unhappy Ireland. Let the Duke of
WELLINGTON but settle the " Irish Question,"
and the battle of Waterloo will not redound
more to his glory. We are dissatisfied,
because the country is dissatisfied with his
Grace's present system of Foreign Politics,
because the national character is not supported
abroad with that dignity which the recollectio.
of his Lordship's victories ought to command

cussion to-day, but we refer our Readers to the
observations of his Lordship.

The Allgemeine Zeitung of the 12th inst.,
received this morning, has an article froin
the lonian Isles, which contains more specula-
tion than fact. The present posture of affairs in
Greece is the theme upon which its reasonings
are founded, and whether the evacuation of the
Morea will affect the question of the Supremacy
of the PORTE in the event of Grecian in-
dependence :

lONIAN ISLANDS, JULY 30.
What could not fail tehappen if the Porte did not agree
to the stipulations of the Treaty of the 6th July, was
easily to be foreseen by those who considered the political
situation of Europe, and the circumstances which made it
the duty of the three great Powers to put an end to the
bloodshed between the contending parties. But what will
happen if the chief condition of the Treaty of the 6th
July should be fulfilled, a■d the Morea voluntarily
evacuated by the Egyptians and Turks, at a moment when
the Porte seems on the whole to have forfeited' the benefits
of the Treaty, and is not in a condition to recognise it
without reserve, is another question, which will require
much consideration in the conferences at Corfu. According
to the Treaty of London, Greece is to remain dependent
on the Porte, and in the situation of a vassal ; it is to enjoy
only a municipal freedom, and to pay a tribute to the Porte,
which is to be fixed by an agreement. The Porte, hindered
43 it Arms, by its religions institutions, cannot take
any part in such negociatione ; it can only show, by the
measures which it takes, that it desires to be en good
terms with the Powers, and to give them satisfaction.
The evacuation of the Mores, for which orders are said to
have been sent to Ibrahim, is a favourable indication of
the good intentions of the Divan, and gives it an implied
right to the advantages of the Treaty of London.

s Greece now to expect entire freedom, or only an itn_
provement of its situation, according to the sense of the
Treaty? And, in case the Porte should content itself
with evacuating the Mersa and the fOrtified places in the
Archipelago, and thus effecting an actual state of freedom,
without taking part in the conferences at Corfu, would the
Greeks be bound to pay the tribute to the Porte, and to
allow it a right of nomination in the appointment of the
Members or the Government ? Or, can the parties
concerned believe that they have a right to make an
an alteration of the Treaty, and to deprive the Porte
of a right which was guaranteed to it by .the Powers,
neon certain conditions it is true, but which religion pre-
vents it from fulfilling. Meantime, is tke latter no ob-
stacle to the attainment of the end proposed, and the happy
arrangement of the existing differences ? It is clear that
without being accused of intolerance, it might be difficult
to recognise the entire liberty of Greece, as soon as the
Porte does any thing to restore tranquillity and order;
but it is also evident that it may be very difficult to induce
the Greeks, after so many sacrifices, voluntarily to replace
themselves under the Ottoman dominion. Amidst these
questions,
which will afford many difficulties in the nego-
ciations at Corfu, besides that of determining the boun-
daries of Greece, it must appear singular to see Count
Capo D'lstria negociate with Ibrahim Paella at Navarin,
about the evacuation of the Morea. The projected French
expedition to the Mozea also gives scope to many re-

factions.
VigssA, JULY *s.—llletalliques, 92j; Bank Shares,
,060.

The Times of this morning says, that there is
now some prospect of the liberation of Sir JOHN
MILLEY DOYLE and Mr. YOUNN from the
fangs of that cruel usurper—MlGUEL. A de-
putation of the Underwriters at Lloyd's bad an
interview yesterday with the Earl of ABERDEEN,
at the Foreign Office, to request " the interfer-
ence of the British Government in behalf of Mr.
WILLIAM YDIITNG, an English subject, and
formerly holding a commission in the army, but
who has resided ever since the peace in Portugal,
and has been employ©d as agent by a consider-
able number of the London Underwriters, in
which capacity he has been the instrument of
detecting fraudulent claims on marine insurances
to. a considerable amount."

•, The deputation stated the hardship of the

of these the Ulernas, are the most cowardly of
all Mussulmen, the latter would probably be
the first to give the signal of flight to Scutari.

As we have already given articles containing
remarks reflecting upon Lord STRANGFORD'.,
mission to Lisbon in 1807, and made some
comments ourselves, which we regret have
been taken up in a spirit by no means
intended, we have thought it proper to insert
in another part of our paper his Lordship's last
answer to the charges of Colonel NAPIER.
`We do this merely as an act of justice,
for impartiality is our motto. At the same time,
we profess ourselves the political opponents of
his Lordship, solely because we think that
he does not advocate the true interests
of his country by opposing liberal principles and
free trade.

" The Noble Lord replied, that he hoped the
gentlemen composing the deputation did not
imagine that his MAJESTY'S Government had
allowed the commission of so flagrant a breach
of the solemn treaties subsisting between this
country and Portugal as that which had taken
place in the case of Mr. YOUNG, without instruct-
ing the British Consul to remonstrate with the
persons at present exercising the Government -of
Portugal in the strongest terms. This had already
been done more than once before the date ofthe last
despatches from Lisbon, and he was sorry to
say without effect up to that time; but he cal-
culated that in a few days thereafter a commu-
nication would be received from the Foreign
Office, which would have the desired effect, both
in the case of Mr. YOUNG and Sir JAHN NI.
DOYLE, as he therein notified to the de facto
Government of Portugal, that if the proper steps
were not immediately taken in respect to the two
individuals in question, it must be prepared for
consequences of the most serious nature; as in
a case like this, where the liberty and rights of
British subjects are invaded, his AIAJESTY'S
Government were determined that they would
not be trifled with. His Lordship added, that
he had no doubt but that this remonstrance
would 'have the desired effect, and that by this
time Mr. YOUNG would be released.
" The Deputation, after expressing their
satisfaction with the steps which had been taken,
withdrew."

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case to his Lordship, and gave it as their opinion SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE—(THIS DAY
I
that the arrest and detention of this gentleman
had not been occasioned by any political motive,
but most probably Wa'g Ativifig to the malevolence
of some individuals whose fraudulent conduct he
had been the means of exposing while employed
in the performance of that duty with which he
had been intrusted.

FROM LLOYD'S.
DEAL, AUG. 18.---Wind W.N.W.—Arrived tl
Frederic, Free Man, from .Jamaica; Bonito, Tea,
from Miramiehi; the Lady Rowena, Russell, fro
New South Wales ; Ariadne, Blachella, from Nei
foundland ; the Albion, Burrell, from Gibraltar
the Livorno, Granville, from Genoa; the Art
Munro, from Africa; the Tulloch Castle, Peare!
from Jamaica. A ship from India passed early thi
morning, supposed to be the Elphinstone.
PORTSIIa)UTiI, AUG. 18.--Willd W.N.W.---Ar
rived his Majesty's ships Cordelia and Britomal
from Lisbon ; the Neid, Simons, from Triesta
the Amity transport, from Halifax; and La Fortino
Cupero, from Corunna, with refugees from POrtliga
FALBIOUTII, AUG. 17.—Wind S.W. to
Off port, the Alliance, Elliot, from Shediac.
BRISTOL. AUG. 1 7.--Arrived the Concord, Escett
from Tobago ; the Friends, Newman, from °poll°
the Nautilus, Cress, from Archangel ; and Mars
from St. Petersburgh.

FA SII lONABLE INTELLIGENCE.
ARRIVALS.
Sir Hutton and Lady Cooper, at their house in Brook'
street, from Aldenharn Abbey, Hants ; Sir Peter Pare,
Bart., in Charles-street, St. James's-square, from Bedford;
shire; Mr. John Mitchell, from Paris; Sir William an'
Lady Davison, at the London Hotel, Albemarle-street,
from Northumberland ; Colonel and Mrs. Gilbert, at the
Burlington Hotel, from India ; Mr. and Mrs. Moyston, at
ditto, from Wilts ; Count Vedil Jahberg, at Thomas's Hot'',
from Sweden ; John Newton, Esq., at the British Idote4
from Paris ; Thomas Duckett, Esq., at ditto, from Paris
J. Hammes, Esq., at the Royal Hotel, from Ireland ; Car
taro Denham, at ditto, from Paris; Captain and Mrs.
chardson, in Regent-street, from the Continent; the lion.
Mr. Curzon and Friends, at Nerves Hotels, Clifford and
Cork-streets ;G. W. Petit, Esq., and Family, at ditto;
Count Stacpool and Ladies, at ditto; Charles C. Western,
Esq., M.P. and Miss Wells, at Marshal Thompson's
Hotel, Cavendish-square ; Watson Smyth, Esq., and Mrs.
Smyth, at ditto ; William Thompson Corbet, Esq., and
William Corbet, jun. Esq., at ditto; William Thornton,
Esq., at ditto.

ARRIVALS AT ESSINGTON'S HOTEL, MALVER

WELLS.
The Earl and Countess Castlestewart and Lord Stewart,
from Cheltenham, Lord Viscount and Viscountess Lorton
and family from Stratton hall, Salop.

ARRIVALS AT LEANIINGTGN.
The Earl and Countess of Bradford, Lord Newport,
Lord Hill, Lady Chetwynd, Bishop of Ossory and the
Hon.. Mrs. Fowler, Dowager Lady Skipwith, Mr. aria
Lady Cecil Delafield, Sir Wm. and Lady Long, Dr. Jones,
Rev. H, Adams, Rev. J. Davies, Rev. J. Bunting, Rev.
Benjamin Winthrop, Rev. J. Hall and family, Rev. Mr.
Mann, Rev. James Roberts and family, Rev. I. D. Paid'',
Colonel and Mrs. Egerton, Major Pedler, Major Browit•
low, Major Campbell, Captain Longley, Captain Taylor,
Captain Chambers, Mrs. Harrison and Miss Dyson, Mr.
Robinson, Mr, Dickson, Mr. Metcalfe, &c. &c.
ARRIVALS AT ANDERSON'S HOTEL, ABERDEF.7.4.
Their Graces the Duke and Duchess of Gordon, on
their retort: from London; the Most Noble the Marquis
and Marchioness of Carmarthen, on their way to HuntlY
Lodge; the Right Hon. the Earl of Fife, on his way to
London, accompanied by Dr. F. P. T. Cambride, Rae 4'
la Paix ; Right Hon. Lord Chetwynd and party, Ppm
Director-General of his Majesty'. Navy; Banbridge',
Esq. Major Milne, 78th Regiment; Wm. Shand, Esq. 01
the Burn, &c. ; Rev. Geo. Anderson, of Granby, North'
amptonshire; Sir John Forbes, Bart. and Lady Forbes;
Hon. Capt., Forbes, Coldstream Guards ; the Hon. Mi.ae
Forbes, Col. Rose, H. E. I. Comp. Service ; Mr. Mac-
kenzie, jun. of Portmore; Alio Mackenzie, Col. Knight
Erskine, of Pittodrie; Wm. Proctor, Esq. J. Mackilligant
Esq. and family, Charles- Hyde, Esq. Fullerton, Esq.
W. S. P. Cruickshank, Esq. J. Thornhill, Esq. D.
Baxter, Req. Chas. Shipland, Esq. Rev. Mr. Sim, Caps-
Watson, R.N. ; J. Rose Innes, of Netherdale; Mr, Hen-
derson and family, &e.
ARRIVALS AT THE CALEDONIAN HOTEL, INVER'
NESS.

Whyte Melville, Esq. on their way to Watten, Caithne,i-
-faocfkßinatioesah,,,kyEisqLarotf.
;Al_vrarderT;orSreiur.,RaElpnh. Aaand-
striCit.her
shire; the Right Hon. Lord John Thynne, and Lady
Thynne, on a tour ; the Right Hon. Lord Chetwynd ;
Okcover, Esq. and Captain Dilk, on their
way to Strathgarve; the Hight Hon. Lord Southampton;
Colonel Hay ; Cootnbe, Esq. ; - Blake, Esq•
C. Anson, Esq. Bentlyhall, Staffordshire ; Coke,
jun. Esq. Norfolk, to Aberarder ; Sir J. W. Mackenzie,
Bart. M.P. and son, to Rosehaugh; G. Baillie, Esq. on
his way to Castleleod ; C. Alexander, Esq. of Ballamyleo
Ayrshire, on his way to Castle Grant.

lIOLYWELL, AUG. 17.—Owing to the great
improvements that have taken place in the line of road from
London to Holyhead, through Chester and Holywell, with
the celebrated Well of St. Winnifred, in Holywell, which
discharges one hundred tons of water every minute, with
the beautiful views on the road, and the grand Suspension
Bridge over the Conway, have caused such an influx of
company upon this line of road, as will be seen by the
late arrivals at the King's Arms Inn, Ifolywell
Rev. Mr. Mytton and family, Mrs. Peel, Lord Mount-
charlee and family, the Right. Hon. V. Fitzgerald and
family, Sir John Sitwell, and family, General Brookes
and family, Earl Fitzwilliam, Sir Robert Dinadas, Hon. 31.
Pousonby, Hon, G. H. Dundas, Lord Milton and family',
D. B. Handbury, Esq. and family, Wra. Grenville, Esq.
M.P. and family, Lord Devereux and family, John Kea-
rich, Esq. of Godestal Hall, Norfolk, Rev. Mr. Wether-
all and family of Gloucester, Hon. Mr. Howard arid
Lady, Mr. and Lsdy Louisa Browne and family, Rev.
Mr. Cleaver, Dawkins Pennant, Esq. Penryhu Castle,
Mr. Canning and Lady, from Brighton, Rev. Mr. Piper
and family, Rev. Mr. Doun and family, Mr. Evans, Mr.
Holdwortli, Mr. Rolf and family, for Bath, Count You
Redern, of Prussia, and family, Mr. Wilkin and family,
Mr England and daughter, Mr. and Mrs. Earlsforth, Mr.
and Mrs. Procter, front Manchester, Mr. Letherland ant
party, Mr. Walsh, of London, and party, Rev. Josiah
Davies and family, from Leicester, Mr. Wilbraham, of
Delamere Lodge, two Miss Hargreaves, from Manchester,
Mr. Smith and family, from Manchester, Rev. M. Burton
and family, ltev. Mr. Owen, of London, and Lady, Win-
Banbury, Esq. and family, for Gloucester, Gerkard H.
Coster, of New York, John J. Clark, of Philadelphia,
Lord Grey and family, on a tour, Henry Brown Jones,
Esq. Furnival's Inn, London, W. G. Gordon, Esq. and
family, London, Lord Levisun Gower, for Ireland, Mr.
Fenton and family from London, Duffreeee Labordaw,
from Paris, Lavercyne Caidevey, from Paris, Dr. Williams,
Professor of Botany, Oxford, and the Misses Williams, of
ditto, Mr. Grunday and family, London, Mrs. Courtnay
and family, Dublin, Monsieur M. Claith and family, from
Paris, Edward James Tosvnshend, Esq. and family, on a
tour, John Kearney, Esq. and family, for Buxton, the
Miss Bainbridges, Colonel Holleston and family from Lei-
cester, Mrs. Snead and family, front Stafford, Dugdale
Haughton, Esq. and family, from Warwick, J. Bathe'.
Esq. and family, J. Wilkinson, Esq. - Corree,
and family, and two Mims Coates, John Smith, Esq. and
family, and 11. S. Day, Esq.

THE LORD LIEUTENANT'S VISIT TO THE
'MANUFACTORY AT PORTLAw.....—OR yesterday, at two
o'clock, Isis Excellency, accompanied by the Earl of
DONOUGIIMORE, Lord DuscArixoN and his son and
daughter,
p ,visited the rivate Secretary, and a number of the
gentry
the neighbourhood,
factory of 11locotAlsos and Son., at Airflow. His Ex-
cellency was addressed. by the Foreman of the establish-
ment, who trusted that he would be pleased to take under
his cognizance the manufactures
cf the kingdom. Nis
Excellency courteously stated how pleased he was to see
so many of different sexes and creeds thus usefully em-
of his
ployed--that he considered such men as Mr. MALcoMSON.
the hest friends of Ireland, and hoped to see such manufac-
tories established throughout the kingdom. ris Excel-
lency left the establishment expressing himself highly
gratified with his visit.— Waterford Chronicle, Saturday.
Grouse Shooting commenced under very un-
favourable circumstances, but the drizzling rain on Tugs.•
day did not damp the ardour 'of the sportsmen nor their
powder, as would appear from the number of boxes Of
game sent by every coach to their friends in the south.--
Inverness Journal.

The weather having been fair for a few days,
I.wvest has begun in this neighbourhood, and much of the
cora being fully ripe, there will be constant shearing till
the harvest is finished ; but the lowering aspect of the
clouds and easterly Wind do not pt:omise nettled weather.---1
Inverness Journal.