The Sun.
London, England, 1844-08-02 00:00:00

IRISH ARMS BILL.

On the order of the day for the second reading of
this Bill being read,
Mr. M. O'FERRALL asked if the Government in-
tended to persist in throwing the expense of the regis-
tration of arms on the counties of Ireland ?
Sir J. GRAHAM said the Act did not make any alte-
ration in the Bill of last year, in which it was merely
intended to correct a clerical error.
The Bill was then read a second time.
BISHOP OF LONDON'S ESTATE BILL.
On the order of the day for the third reading of the
Bishop of London's Estate Bill being read,
Mr. WAKLEY objected to passing the Bill through
when it had been before the House but five days. The
title of the Bill gave no idea of the nature of its contents,
and the public knew nothing whatever about it. Who
could suppose for a moment that this Bill was one for
regulating the property of Paddington ? Even the per-
sons on this property knew nothing about the Bill ; at
the Great Western Railway nothing was known of it.
The Bill would remove the present reservoirs
of the Grand Junction Waterworks Company,
and give to it a perfect monopoly of the supply of water
to the buildings on the Paddington property, to the ex-
elusion of all the other water companies. A clause was
inserted for reserving ground on which to build a church
and an hospital ; but while the Bill was imperative, and
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the Bill, as it was most unfair to pass such an Act
without further consideration.
Sir W. CLAY said the Bill was, strictly, a private
one, and had gone through all the forms and regula-
tions required for private Bills in the other House. Its
simple purpose was to rectify a fault in the existing Act
of Parliament, by which parties were prevented from
giving a valid title to the property they disposed of in
Paddington. It did not give any advantage to any
water company with respect to the supply of water.
Mr. GREENE, as Chairman of Committees, had care-
fully examined the Bill, and could see no objection to it.
It was intended to regulate the property which was
leased out in the last century by the then Bishop of
London, at Paddington. Part of the ground was occu-
pied by the reservoirs of the water company, and it was
now wished to apply the space to the original purpose of
building.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said, though the Bill was called
a private one, it applied to the property of the Church.
He thought that they ought to have had this measure
much sooner before the House. Ho trusted two or three
days would be given to Hon. Members to make in-
quiries on the subject.
Mr. BROTHERTON said that the Bishop of London
had only a p.eppercorn interest in the question.
Mr. WAKLEY said that the Bill itself admitted that
its provisions would be greatly for the interest of the
Bishop of London. He only asked for the postponement
till Tuesday, and unless, that was consented to he would
divide the House.
After a few observations from Sir W. CLAY.
Strangers were ordered to withdraw, but no division
took place, Mr. Wakley withdrawing his amendment.
Mr. WAKLEY then moved, as an amendment to the
Bth clause, the insertion of the same compulsory pro-
vision with respect to the building of an hospital on the
estate, as there was in the ninth clause, relative to building
a church.
This amendment was agreed to, and the Bill was read
a third time and passed.
MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS.
Messengers from the Lords' brought down the Ca-
tholic Penal Laws, Repeal Bill, and several other Bills.

ROYAL COLLEGE OF SURGEONS.
Mr. MACKINNON presented a petition from the
surgeons and assistant-surgeons of the different regi-
ments of Guards, complaining that they had been de-
prived of their rights by the new charter granted to the
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Cranstoun's Estate Bill, which was read a second time.

PENITENTIARY SYSTEM.
Mr. MORE O'FERRALL wished to ask, seeing thak
the Penitentiary system, as practised in the Pentonville
Prison, had been so successful, whether it was the in-
tention of the Government during the recess to consider
the propriety of erecting a similar institution in Dublin?
Sir J. GRAHAM said that an arrangement had been
made in Ireland, as well as in England, on this subject,
to which he attached great importance. All persons
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sentenced to transportation were brought to a central
prison before the sentence of transportation was carried
into effect, o that an opportunity was afforded to the
authorities of investigating the previous habits and cha-
'racters of such persons, so as to enable them to decide to
gen:lents of that nature had been completed in
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what settlement it would be most proper they should be
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this country the arrangement had been
effected
the penitentiary character of the
prison at Millbank, and converting it into a prison for
persons under sentence of transportation. His confidence
in the success of the experiment now carrying on at
Peutonville was so great that as far as he was individu-
ally concerned be should be glad to see it extended to
Ireland ; but it would be premature in him to state