The Sun.
London, England, 1845-05-09 00:00:00

CARLISLE RAILWAYS.

Mr. Baird's examination (continued from our Afternoon Edi.
Lion)—lf the railway were made, the quantity of lime brought
into the district would be increased to 10,000 tons every week.
The expense of conveyance from Netherwood to Garthsherrie
would be Is. 6d. per ton. The want of sufficient lime
for agricultural uses was greatly felt in the neighbourhood
of Airdrie. His iron works were situated near the Castlecary
branch. He was in the habit of sending large quantities of iron
to Grangemouth for shipment. He exported at least 25 per; cent.
of the iron made ; and a similar proportional quantity was sent away
by the other manufacturers in the district. At least 85,000 tons
of limestone were consumed annually ; and the expense, in-
cluding carriage, from Netherwood to Garthsherine was 3s.
Gd. to 4s. 6d. per ton. If the railway were constructed it
would tend to open up many mineral fields at present unexplored,
and he had no hesitation in distinctly saying that the line when
made would be generally of great public advantage.
Mr. John Miller, manager of Lord Elphinstone's estates in
Ambernault, was next examined. He said the:neighbourhood of the
Castlecary branch abounded in minerals of various descriptions.
There were great quantities of lime at Cumbernault, of two kinds,
that were sold for 3s. 6d. to 4s. Gd. per ton. Ironstone was occa-
sionally used for smelting purposes, particularly at the Carron
Iron Works, but it was not sent to Garthsherrie, because there
was no direct means of conveyance. If a railway were made
ironstone would be taken in considerable quantities. Ihe
Castlecary branch in conjunction with the Scottish Central,
will form the best and most direct communication between
Grangemouth and Coltness. The present price of burnt ►ime was
Bs. per ton, but it could lie sold at a cheaper rate if the railway
were constructed, arid at least 15,000 tons yearly would be sent
north from Cumbernault. The quantity of grain consumed an-
nually in the district of Airdrie amounted to 14,561 tons,
the principal pert of which was brought from Stirling
and Falkirk. A very large number of potatoes were alto
sold in the neighbourhood of Airdrie, amounting annually
than 8,000 to 10,000 tons annually, and of this amount 2,000 tons
were sent from the north. Another article of produce of great
consumption in the district was turnips, which were conveyed from
the ❑orth to the extent of 500 tons every year. The further evi-
dence of this witness was merely corroborative of previous state.

ments.
Mr. Bruce, raper-manufacturer, at Leith, was then called.
The quantity of paper which he manufactured in the course of the
year was 300 tons. There were eight other paper manufactories
in the neighbourhood, and the quantity produced by these
amounted to 2,000 tons annually. Coal was extensively used in
the different factories, and the price when delivered at the canal
side averaged from 95. to 105. 6d. per ton. Gas coal was also con.
surned to a Inge extent, and its present price was 55. per ton at
the pis mouth, the cost of cartage from which was 17s. per ton,
which amounts, added together, would give a result of 225. per
ton—the present price of the coals. If, however, the coals were
brought by the Edinburgh branch of the Caledonian Railway, the
cost would be considerably reduced. All the manufacturers
would consume more coals, if they could be procured at a
cheaper rate. The produce of the paper would also be greatly
increased if more facility was afforded. The paper-works were
for the most part carried on both during the night and day. Rags
and old ropes used in making the different kinds of paper were
principally brought from Ireland by sea, arid they could be pro.
cured at a much cheaper rate if there was a better and more direct
mode of conveyance.
Mr. Holdsworth, cotton.spinner at Glasgow, the next witness,
stated that he could concur generally with the evidence which had
been previously given, and was distinctly of opinion that the majo.
rity of the mercantile community of Glasgow was in favour of the
Caledonian Railway.
Mr. Hill, paper-manufacturer, gave concurrent testimony to
that given by Mr. Bruce.
The Committee adjourned till twelve o'clock on Friday, the
15th instant.

Group V.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition.)
Cross-examined by Mr. MAcsut.►Y—By his proposition a gradient
of 1 • in 100 would be required, and that would entail an expenseof
1,000/. per annum for an assistant engine at Nottingham. This
gradient was certainly objectionable, if it could possibly be avoided,
especially in the case of heavy trains. if he were called on to lay
out the line, he should certainly propose to cross the Flood.road at
the level. Ile did so propose in a line of his own at Worthing,
but the House of Lords compelled him to build a bridge.
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Mr. Wood, architect and surveyor of Nottingham, was called to
give evidence corroborative of that given by Mr. Rastick. The
witness also from his knowledge of the country was enabled to
speak of the traffic on the Trent Navigation Canal, none of which,
he thought, would be transferred to this railway In the event of its
being formed.
James Fenton was of °pluton that it was perfectly practicable to
work single engines on gradients of lin I AO. He had done so on
the Manchester and Leeds line, mad the inclination on the Edin.
burgh and Glaegow line on leaving the station at the latter eity was
I in 42.
The witness was under examination at four o'clock, when the
Committee adjourned.

Group B.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition.)
Mr. RNOWLES called evidence to prove that ti.e line would
seriously disfigure an estate In the valley of the Calder, called the
Pyeness Park.
Sir G. Law's adduced similar evidence on behalf of thr Low.
more Iron Company, and Mr. GURNEY on behalf of Colonel Tern.
pest, whose family it was stated had been the owners and occupiers
of Tonge Park, for a period of upwards of 700 years. Counsel
also appeared to oppose the line, on behalf of the Bradford Sur-
veyors of the Highways and the Bradford Canal Company.
Mr. Hut then proposed that counsel on either side should say
nothing in reply, but pair eff.
Mr. TALBOT accepted the proposal of his Leartictl

The room was then cleared, and the Committee having
deliberated for upwards of three-quarters of an hours strangers
were then re.ndmitted.

The CHAIRMAN then announe:.o that the preamble to the Leeds
and West Riding Junctio
had determined to had been proved, and the Committee
',..egative the West Yorkshire line,

Group F.
(Continued from our Afternoon Edition. )
Cross-examined by Mr. COCKBURN—The Moreton Railway, at
present le tbnnexion with Stratford, has been purchased, he be-
lieved, by the Great Western Company, conditionally on their
getting their Bill. He did not think, however, it could be applied
to the purposes of the broad gauge.
Re examined by Mr. HOPE—The London and Birmingham
had made a similar conditional purchase of the Moreton Railway,
and intended to carry it forward so as to connect Stratford with
Tang.

Mr. William Caylis, corn and coal dealer and farmer, at Ban.
bury, examined— Ile farmed about 170 acres of land. The quan-
tity of coal used in the town and neighbourhood was about 60,000
tons. It was derived principally from South Staffordshire ; a small
portion came from Hawley. The carriage from South Stafford-
shire was Ets. per ton ; that from Hawley, which was 57 miles dis-
tant, was a halfpenny per ton per mile. The corn trade of the
town was also considerable. About 35,000 quarters were sent
from the neighbourhood principally northwards. Birmingham
was the market to which dealers generally went. The feeling of
the inhabitants of Banbury was at present decidedly in favour of
the narrow gauge. If the wide gauge was carried out as pro-
posed to Rugby, great inconvenience would be created ill the car-
riage of coal by the breakage in the gauger.
Mr. Robert Peel, of 13annuty, generally confirmed the evidence
of the previous witness.
3;gr, Willi& Wlrd of Oxford said be was a daalcr in coal. The
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