The Sun.
London, England, 1845-05-21 00:00:00

AIAYNOOTIT.

Earl FITZ WILLIAM presented a petition against
the sale of spiritual liquors on the Sabbath. As also one
against the so-called endowment of the college of Mayneoth.
This latter, the Noble Lord observed, had been presented by
Dissenters, who objected to the grant, not on the grounds of
its being an endowment of a Roman Catholic establishment,
but because they protested against the State conferring gifts
for the upholding any Church, whether Protestant or Roman
Catholic. The spirit of the petitioners must be understood
therefore to be equally as strong against the endowment of the
former as of the latter Church. He entirely dissented from
the whole scope and view of the petition, both as regarded its
hostility to the grant to Maynooth, and its opposition to all
ecclesiastical establishments. For his part he looked upon this
endowment of Maynooth as a payment of a small instal-
ment of what was due to the people of Ireland. He did
not say the Roman Catholics of Ireland, but the people of Ire-
land, because the Roman Catholics were in truth the people,
and it was a misnomer to designate them in any other way.
He would go a step further and express his satisfaction at the
further measures which the Ministers had proposed for estab-
lishing academical institutions in Ireland ; but before he alluded
to that subject he would express his belief, and les hope, so far
as the Maynooth Bill was concerned, that her Majesty's Minis-
ters intended to go much further than that. All he would say
was, that if the Ministry intended to stop there, they were per-
sons who did not comprehend the results of the measures which
they had proposed ; and as he believed they were perfectly
competent to form ajust judgment on their own measures, he gave
them credit for the intention of doing a great deal more than
they had done, and he was glad to give them credit for such
intentions. With regard to the colleges which it had been
proposed to establish, he had understood that there were per-
sons possessing more enthusiasm than religion—persons who
mistook names for things—who looked rather to their anticipa-
tions than to the recollections of their own early life, who had
called these colleges Godless colleges. He should be extremely
sorry if any establishment in this country could justly be de•
signated by such a term. He would take leave to think that
those persons who had invented the term had applied
it very erroneously. He would take leave also to
think that those persons, if they had been educated
in the academical establishments of this country, could
not have any very accurate recollection of the period which
they had passed at those establishments. Although it was true
that thore were theological professors there and theological
lectures were delivered, yet he apprehended, with the excep-
tion perhaps of the two Right Rev. personages he saw sitting
on the benches opposite, that there were few among their
Lordships who, while they were at Oxford or Cambridge, had
attended the lectures of the theological professors. And with
respect to their being educated at Oxford, those who had been
educated there in later times might,:perhaps, recollect not only
that they had not attended such lectures, but that the highest
authorities in the university, if they had not prohi-
bited, had strongly recommended the students nut to
attend the lectures of the theological professor.—(l-lear.)
He was not one of those who believed that the establishment
of these colleges would lead to the disastrous consequences
which these persons predicted. He was nor afraid that they
would tend to propagate infidelity. Infidelity was much
more likely to arise from the hostile spirit which actuated
one sect against another, and if they could succeed in educat-
ing the youths of different sects together—in induring them
to take their enjoyments and recreations together, they
would go a long way towards destroying that spirit of intoler-
ance with which each sect regarded the other. The Noble
Lord concluded by presenting the petition.
The Marquis of NORMA NBY presented a petition from a
person of the name of Percival, praying their Lordships to
appoint a Committee to inquire into the constitution of
the Commission with respect to lunacy. The Noble
Lord despaired, at the present period of the session, of the
appointment of the Committee. Before, however, he made
any motion on the subject, he was anxious to hear what course
the Government intended to pursue on the subject.
The Duke of MONTI? OsE presented several petitions
against the grant to the college of Maynooth.
The Earl of KINN AIRD presented similar petitions.
The Marquis of II RE ADA LB A N E presented forty-four peti-
tions from different parts of Scotland to the Fame effect.
The Duke of RICHMOND presented petitions from Derby
praying for relief to the agricultural classes.
Lord BEAUMONT gave notice that, on Thursday next, he
should move for papers with respect to Greece.
Lord MO UNTCASHEL postponed the motion of which he

had given notice till Friday next, with respect to coroners'
inquests.
The Earl of ZETLAND presented several retitions against
the grant to Alasnooth from places in Yorkshire.
SOUTHAMPTON DOCKS BILL.
On the motion of Lord REDESJALE this Bill was read a
second time
CLERKEN WELL IMPROVEMENTS.
On the motion of L rd REDESDA LE the Bill for forming
a new street to Cierkenwe,l-0-reen was read a third time.
Their Lordships adjourned at half-past Six o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, May 20.
The SPEAKER took the Chair shortly before FOUr
o'clock.
The report on the Scottish Central Rand several other
.
ailway Bill, the
Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway Bill,
Bills were brought up and agreed to, and the Bills ordered
to be engrossed.
GRAND JUNCTION RAILWAY BILL. .
e
On the motion for the further consideration of th
Report on the Grand junction Railway Bill, several pe-
titi.os wt ;•e presented against it. ttluethrint:3
it
,A,I, rt., i
:1!) I;.(l.;:.,latll!.)i.)i(.l)irtiorsoentoix(p)s,,er
itii(i)t:l B
ofi111:i
his
ttl)l:lLii
without conferring soy benefit upon the district throng's
which it passed. He protested on the part of his constitaeoit 3
against the Bill. He did no'. consider it a project which woo ea
in any respect promote their interests. He, therefore, tn
that the further consideration of it be postponed till that day
six months.
iitttle,.r. W. PATTEN vindicated the decision of the
ra Co°F.
Air. HAWES, as Chairman of the Committee to sticlit
the Bill had been referred, defended the decision to whi'
had come respecting the Bill.
t
werler.al?
olS,pßoOsedßNtoEthsiasidnitih,atyt.he inhabitants of the Fotteries
Si
rage
Mr. Aldeirman COPELAND opposed the Bill, °nhe
ground that it would exclude the formation of a radii'sy
advantageous to the district. fed to
Lord G. SOMERSET said that if it had been pill os-
the Committee that the company who applied for cc
the_ °Pod
sessed capital enough to carry out the purposes, thvY,.s.
have been much disposed to report in favour of the roe's-, de-
Mr. F. FRENCH, as a member of the Co
fended the report. and 'Aft.
After a few words from Mr. H. BERKELfr a
RICARDO, t of the
Mr. ENTWISLE addressed the House in oppor
report, when he was interrupted by the 00856 t°
The Usher of the Black Rod. who summoned
the House of Lords to attend a Royal Commis sit 0 ouse ha!
On the SPEAKER'S return, h stated tha_.,“"- 110:11%
bee 0 is,rds
been to the House of Peers, and had heart'
Royal Assent given to several Bills.— F bleb 5e
( or
Report.) ed
GRAND JUNCTION RAILWAI. 050 '
„as then
The discussion upon the report of this Bill - t wish
when onittee
e ,tallyo-n gbt
tbt oi
before
efAoy
rt.e haveev them,r
ut
ahl
def
er decisionswe,
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prolonginged
Mr. ENT WISLE continued—lf the il°°9-• br-1110‘1
The House divided, when there appeared-- 73
For the motion - ... 204;t33
pAorltr Alderman COPEL--A°'
For the amendment ... .. ................. ----- e
Alaiority in favour of the amendment... ,0.0400,,D
tsiifeorcfrmeihethireCseosinsimonitt
Lord HOWICK thought it incumbent on the ',„, cbswai
to introduce some regulations with refereuce thigh,t' Odor'
upon railways. In some cases charges were very e 1406
others very low. His opinion was, that in some eases
se
charges were established than were consistent
it the
welfare of the public. This House "ghtaile to ost
to make these alterations, as they could not be ra vil ia,
teoe sacnonit;i6nlle
pet
House of Lords. In one railway 3d. A ten Peres 01/ the
charged upon coals, in another only Id., senT'ettiltrei the
where the competition was great. On mall ',dile °jai.
charges for passengers were 3d., 2,1 , and 1143. t„-rete°""°o
first, second, and third class. Now ;hese charges "- re i'atr
With respect to the old companies, he believed thbee Govefro
redress to be had ; but he belived the object 6f t order oil-
ment in introducing this new standing the those
to establish a new rate of charges tte,dare es-
ferent conveyances of the new companies, 8:-.,ses OP
that should be deemed to be unreasonable. '..,,i104,,e01d
tion of great importance, and before the ptesent ;opt -
were read a third time he trusted the anvern it
3 that
take up the question. fpr , f tbe
Sir G. CLERK concurred with the Noble iitioa ° they
would be a very proper question for the consicialettO
Board of Trade; but beyond a suggestion he did t 1 mid
de P.-.
should have anything to do with it. f rs vie
Mr. LABOUCHERE did think the Board °f ~,tth a the
direct their serious attention to this quesiliotion i°
b
to establish some regularity as well as 0311`• '
I .10seV
charges.—The Bill was then agreed to. f V. otorr
11ir. lIINDLEY moved that the petition 0. of A coo,
Higginbottom, clerk of the Commissioners of P°,4iat: the and
under-Lyne (presented 19th May), be referred ~g sill; ti,
niittee on the Manchester and Salford Wateraverolit the Pe
tthioanteirt lt)oe
batn,
hineasterdwb.ityiocnoutnosetlheoeCaogmennat.ittee to Fervibie aS
11 it i'
Mr. GREENE resisted the motion, after Bill 1115
withdrawn. vil itY
thei‘nie.reiatd.
broughtia,AseLcosnidEßtime.,
The London, Bedford and Birmingham Rai
Cbester
rep t on the
up the - - °I. or
in fgi°
Sir HOWARD
and Holyhead Rahway Bill.
'on"
of the Wexford and Carlow Railway rii.ll. be an inatructi Sr
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE moved that
_t.,
•-• d itFarringdon-streel.4,
the Committee on the Tottenha°-
r a 7
the petition from ()eerier
tension Railway Bill, in the matte- ° id Bill. 113 V
rtier
against the sa
as 0
I,
enwell, to hear the petitioners there was tbo . e
son he made that motion because
was, tition that of ip
which the Committee eimld not heat any Pe iiting is"
been presented at least three days before the ste_. besot
Committee ; but in the present case it would har,e4 o,.it it
possible that the petition could have been presen`k heir bet
time, owing to the peculiar circumstances. Ind!e., st sil'od
would be almost unnecessary to make this applicate; 'tteeonei
petition
he did so because he had heard that another
one
°alit-
refused to hear a petition circumstanced as the lli
in his motion.

The motion was then agreed to.
petition 1, ;0 I,IY
N oAritrh.
Mr. FITZROY KELLY presented a
Oirdel
The Belfast Lough Drainage Bill was reads „She /V"
• • against the fort'
i e a petition
\\VvitleiswsNlOipnreßersTaeliHtuaNdVAvaLyEßSillii..AlLWAY. a ~._6
Lincoln line of railway. 04 le(
this ine
Mr. HUME gave notice that he should, a,u ry ,P
night, bring the subject of the services of Sir nen
before the House. fee ace
Mr. H. BERKELEY said that he had a notice,: toe
,bets
with relation to the Insolvency Act. He 'fit'slay ai '
whether, if he postponed his motion till Tharesodetosiri;
Right Hon. Baronet would make a house.--(", i!,f lateetth
Sir R. PEEL said that it had not been ilse7'he th °II' ,i
to keep the 29th of May as a holiday, all!' sole s,,kero
present state of business would not allow it thils,
the
.mono to
Mr. B. OSBORNE gave notice that, ° heeltl,iee
leaving the chair on the Irish Colleges Bill, he_' stlilliF' g
instruction to the Committee regulating the
..heie,
honours in the Universities.c °l° Itou'
ten the Ore
Mr. S. CRAWFORD gave notice that, itoo a
proposed for the grant of money to the Presbyteri
the
he should move that such vote be rejected. LI ASP' to - ,
REPEAL AGITATION IN IRD'I': p 0
~,,,,Aeo
Mr. FERRAND said he had a queetion.l:lo eitslifte_
Right Hon.
Herßaonet the Secretary of State fof.oo,4lbuogeel'ir
partment. had not given notice of the (111,Pso, u eiseda
Right Hon. Baronet required it he vv0u1d......rm00 pelf/017'o
tion had reference to the following subjeet..„(ol'; the
P,Ol
a recent number of a Dublin newspaper, tr „totwe o'4o otatio,
that a repeal demonstration was about to toke Potion rre to
to
of Tara, and the programme of the dernoostrmesebeingssoo,
in the following words :—(Here the I-100 :r eseg"..iosi 14
advertisement, stating the order in which the...,,i. giztJthe ye,,
I M.9'11 ' d iu heir
assemble and them continued by sa e „rare of t- to
whether her Majesty's Government were P aieett
„eider°
1845, as they were in 1843, to assert the :111'0e ler
or were they to permit Mr. O'Connell an eoer•h!,
Joe otie
trample the law under foot ? h the ietedeer
Sir JAMES GRAHAM said that thougg his: .....„(1140
Member had not given him notice of his:
"doe the
to ask the question, he would, hawever4seinhlYLl,e I,llcieire
hear.) He was aware that a popular
about to
anent be tri
Hun. Gentleman had mentioned was ahe, Lieeten coon
Ireland, and he begged to say that the Loroeee of Os
ceived directions to take care that the Pe .. hear.) do
e get.,
should be preserved on that oceasion.---t,sE.
~ Ile I°lo
CALL OF THE 1-I°'
notice on the paper for the 22d, for a ea. he, wog
000
Mr. HUME said he • had a guestionntoof :t0,1; ilohntgeo'n oe
he wished to know if that notice could P
notice]
ether
that day? ,
.1 0
notices. hers et„reher e. eke e.
The SPEAKER said the lion. s'" ]steel, 0' their
come on in the order in which it Was P Waite tof
erobertSheWpotpOodrie thAftgot
01d °l-01"e
R. PEEL hoped that Hon. II
right of precedence in order not to causecunderstote 01.0 the
the Maynooth Bill.—( Hear, hear.) 11 eented ulli
had coo wo ,
Hon. Member for Wolverhampton „rombers „row
right, and he did hope that other Hon• oe_et,,,e(P doe°
same, in order to facilitate the public bust,'" P e,
d tbebeg t
NEW ZEALAND.
_arose, •0 e hot
Captain ROUS said, the last time lie
ht
eerts,reeil:4jeo3
on the subject of New Zealand he bra /0 ous,lbus erore
against the New Zealand Company. Ne'lLade attiteelef the
if he Aid not prove the assertions he hadowider tootles
13 tee
opportunity, Hon. Gentlemen might con -t
the
b?
_OO a
groundless. He did not wish to interruy• etivaie , dot
linusei but he was anxious to express his ,ts° ,ber
subject of New Zealand.
Sir ROBERT PEEL repeated, _d tee ipg on
the Hon. Member for Wolverhampton 0,J,.: et epoch d
,iro:1
for Westminster (Captain Rous) Wolverhampton
u,
onory rote pre" 6
motions to. night. He (Sir Robert Peel)
.i.e ki . tb
whether Hon. Members had come down r." the; gee
..te hsr
to take a part in the discussion. c
meet
___.,... to • the t
Mr. C. BULLER said it was necceseseto hoe He OO
anxious ed. erse eo
New Zealand Company were most . , eiocess .. be
.0
that he OP
00_5'0161
made against them in that House fairly ie
-c tain tb"ests 4".. the
however, tell the Hon. and Gallant
%,./,'eh etc
it iest,.estyer
then prepared to discuss the question
the m",,ooti.
et. isl tett b
to bring before the House—
treatyna of Waitangi, confirmed achndelYaPPf4teorlaitYn:ll/10'.sibet
ought to he maintained with the strictest_(r7hecatirii,
„nob
Mr. C. Buller) came down to the n
.1-16eallatit .
_t:e,
0111.0
slightest impression that the Hon. a
forward all ,11_5.4;ie Ftveld,
to take an opportunity of bringing ae (~:r Ile_:_,tsirt
he had to make against the Comofpatnyo.„3 it cret,leeoi
had not told the precise natures H°°"
and
aced
to 4005
under these circumstances, tell he
erly_o.. eeeproL sees
cope
that he was exceedingly glad that
shubsertans:
Pate TO not t be.
the Fledge which he had given to As lie_Pe _abile,ete.,‘
he had brought against the Come ny
a debate on th:e t ,
. the 00 " es
hopeddo wn at
that aatllthperepHaorned.would aP‘ chsrg
his motion. disteiet be nit!:
been pointed out, and withdrawa
__de two
0,, I,ot. _ oulc,
Captain ROUSI said he h a n:hich CO
cituor,
.Deto, AO
against the New Zealand CompanYe,
f the diretered leeht furi
to
Memberenter intow a
understood. If he had been oneb
en fullY clad broueoity cti
not have rested till they had e meniber
onnestiresiati
ward the subject which might lye
1- comPaeuestioo
them 8: NO :v then
would have been happy if any Hon .
discussing the whole question respectingse.,__ ei the.
_e, tbe q_dges-
as desirous 0' ~ all t were tee
anything else, that he w
should be ready a,
, direCt°l.s oder e
Compsny. It was more for the IP', bringioidies a" jig-
s,.
However, he shou .
e. If tne weeks tifor 0°- t
• d to remain comfortable tor h % lava rued
eel
de
pose
upon them— ki.
aspersions he had cast
sons to bring forward the mot,,. e
_lt oish
.......be,
tan salcuhr se se
not object to it. lo tha Vac arse
other motto . t
dor _
,ei, iee
hate should take precedence %use
were ti° 11,0 hear w
venience would arise if the 11 e _beam re! %jos,.
es,,,noth 1.9_1.„.
Mr. M. GiBSON deprecated the rit -0, bi, 0.0,
thhe
of the
The Hon. Member then viethi Lycey.LoN. s
coo
ferred
ZA:aflaarndasguheeswtioans better than _
(.7;_ iii, tootle.
THE COLONIL.e ...etion
fteloole''q4tb °f
dated the r all
dispatch from the Secretary f
of CeYl° ;e4 °'p'r'
Mr. TUFFN ELL postporoi
to in the minute of the Governor
ii cop. ' d ie.,'
February, 1845.,,„ for ny an „ire,.
oned his n30.,-; ,-4,.m0s ._,..10, . _
Mr. WATSON postp
East India '" fe;01 no 00
thel77s to e, •th
correspondence between
the year Robert
01
residents at Lucknow,
t of Captain se
respecting the appointmen
/
(iSthaite for the,