The Sun.
London, England, 1845-07-22 00:00:00

(LEFT SITTING.)

THE EREWASH VALLEY RAILWAY.
The Select Committee appointed by the House of Lords to as-
certain the merits of the Erewash Valley Railway assembled for the
first time this morning. The Committee consisted of Lord Lyttle-
ton, who acted as chairman, the Errl of Aylesford, the Earl of
Liverpool, Lord Dinorbin, and Lord Wrottestey.
Mr. Calvert appeared for the promoters of the Bill, and Mr.
Macaulay and Mr. Denison for the opponents, who were the
Erewash and Carsonford Canal Company.
Mr. CSLYERT stated the case for the promoters. The line
would commence at Longeaton, in the county of Derby, and after
traversing the Erewash Valley, it would terminate at Pyebridge.
There would be two branches, one to Henon and theother to Bkister.
The object of the line was to accommodate the coal traffic of the dis-
trict,and in the event of their Lordships sanctioning it the scrip of the
company become part of the stock of the Midlands, and the Mid-
land Company would connect it with their own line by means
of a branch running to Amber-gate. The length of the main
line would be thirteen miles, and the branches about five—one
two, and the other three. There were no engineering features of
severe or difficult character, and the whole cost of the line and
branches was estimated at 190,000/.
Several witnesses from various towns in the locality were then
called to prove the want of railway communication in the district,
as well as to speak to the importance of the proposed line for open-
ing up a number of coal- fields in the Valley of the Erewash.
(LEVT PITTIN4II.)

THE GLASGOW JUNCTION RAILWAY.
On the re-assembling of the Committee this morning the exami-
nation of witnesses for the opposition was resumed.
Mr. Potter, whose cross-examination had not been completed at
the rising of the Committee yesterday, was recalled. He stated
that American flour weighed ten barrels to the ton, and his charge
for forwarding it averaged 2 %d. per barrel. The extra charge was
made by him for the risk incurred in the carriage of the casks from
the quay to the railway station, and he was allowed to make the
charge by the Dock Company. The average length of vessels at
the side of the harbour was 132 feet, and he thought if it was not
a tidal harbour, the railway would facilitate the loading of vessels,
but, under present circumstances, the loading and unloading of
ships would be inconvenienced if a line of rail were laid on
the quay.
Mr. W. Connell, shipowner. Glasgow, was next examined, and said
that the Chamber of Commerce consisted of 500 menhers, and was
represented by 30 directors, cipcted from the principal merchants.
The conssitution of the Merchants' House was composed of
general merchants, who associated flgether for the purposes
of commerce to the number of 1,500, with a body of
directors consisting of 36 gentlemen. The Trades' House
represented the general body:of trades in Glasgow, and from 3,000
to 5,000 members belonged to it. All of these bodies were
incorporated by royal charter. He had never seen a quay more
crowded with traffic and passengers than the quay at Glasgow. He
considered the railway would be an impediment and encumbrance
to the traffic, and would he dangerous if passengers passed when
the railway carriages were on the line. The north side of the
harbour was the most conveniently situated for unloading
vessels, and the south side was the best adapted for exportation. It
was large, and kept the north side clear. The general impression
of the merchants and shipowners in Glasgow was strongly against
the formation of a railway on the quays. .

(LEFT 81171N' G.)

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
GROUP K.
TIRE CAMBRIDGE AND UUI.Y AND TE2
TRETPOIC.D AND /117 Ry RAILIWAIrS.
IMPORTANT DECISION.

The Committee on these Bills, Lord Sandon chairman, re-assem-
bled this morning at twelve o'clock, in No. 12 Committee Room.
The CHAIRMAN intimated that they had adjourned for the pur-
pose of giving the parties the chance of something turning up which
might be advantageous to them. It was then uncertain whether
the House of Commons would pass a resolution with respect to
Bills which could not be finished during the present session.
Mr. TALBOT said the position of affairs when they adjourned was
this :—The Thetford and Bury was beand to a certain extent, as
those who wished to adduce evidence against it were not allowed
to do so, on the ground that it was not the intention of the Coin.
rnittee to proceed with that Bill any further during the present
session of Parliament. With respect to the Cambridge and Bury,
for which he was counsel, its opponents did not exercise their right
of calling witnesses. The Thetford and Bury was "stopped by the
Court," to use a common expression.

Mr. GIRDEN said some expressions which had fallen from the
Chairman had been understood by many to imply that the Thetford
and Bury line was at an end. Suppose next year it was proposed
to carry a line in the same direction, he hoped the Committee
would give those for whom he appeared a precedence over that line
on account of the great experise they had incurred. It
was for the Norwich Direct Company to place them
in such a situation as that he pointed out. He was
sure the Committee would feel that those who had expended several
thousands in promoting their Bill, should hereafter reap some ad-
vantage from the large outlay they had incurred.
Mr. RAWLINSON said he had appeared for the landowners, and
had retired from the room on the assumption that the direct line
from London to Norwich should not pass this session. He under-
stood that nothing had occurred to alter this determination. It
would be better for all the parties to come before the Committee
again next session.

Mr. TALBOT said they could not give precedence to the Thet-
ford and Bury line, because they had not completed their inves-
tigation of it. He had had a number of witnesses in attendance
to give evidence against it, but they were ultimately withdrawn.
The case was different with respect to the Cambridge and Bury,
as it was fully heard. He, therefore, held that the Cambridge and
Bury was entitled to precedence on that account.
Mr. ALEXANDER had an application to make with respect to Mr.
Ord and Mr. Iron, who held property near the Bury terminus, and
who were their only opponents. He had to ask the Committee to
put those for whom he appeared in the position which the resolu-
tion of the House of Commons placed them. Let them consider
the great expense which would be entailed upon them if they had to
commence de nova next session. He Proposed to strike out the names
of Mr. Ord and Mr. Irons as their property would not be affected
as the line would terminate at Northgate-street, where it would
be most convenient to stop for the present. A further railway
accommodation in that quarter would no doubt be proposed
next year, and where they would have to commence de
nova next session if their Lordships gave the permission to stop at
the point he had named. He trusted, therefore, that they would
report favourably on the Bill, so that they might avail themselves
of the resolution of the House of Commons. They bad incurred
great expense, and had not been guilty of neglect.
The room was then cleared, and the Committee remained in de-
beration for ten minutes.

OM the admission of the parties,
The Clam:max said the Committee having considered the reso-
lution come to by the House of Common* since they adjourned,

have come to the conclusion, under all the circumstances, to
simply negative the preamble's of both the Bills.
The Committee then broke up.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT•

(THIS DAY.)

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
The House met at Twelve.
The reports on the Darby Court ( Westminster) Bill, a
litia Pay Bill, and the Stamp Duties Bill were brought up, 8°
ordered to be read a third time to-morrow.
THIRD READINGS.
The Highways Bill and the Railway Leasing Bill were read
third time, and passed.
The Municipal Districts Bill passed through Committee, Rea
The House went into Committee on the
SMALL DEBTS BILL.
Mr. WA KLEY complained that there were several Ile►
clauses, and there were several new schedules which had Do
been submitted to the House, and more time was therefore
requisite before the Bill should be passed.
Sir J. GRAHAM said that there had been abundance of
time for the consideration of the Bill.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said that this Bill would, in the end'
deprive the workmen of every inducement to exertion.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that the lion.
ber for Finsbury was mistaken in supposing that there was ape
power in this Bill to attach wages or salary in the hands of the
master. There was no such power; but in the event of a debtor
who received more than was necessary for his support, refusing
to apply part of his wages to the payment of his debts, he was
liable to 4d days' imprisonment. Ile had communicated both
with creditors and debtors, and had accepted no suggestion
which, in his conscience, was not for the benefit of both partiesi
In reply to a question, the SOLICITOR-GENERAL
stated that a debtor could be imprisoned twice for the WA".
debt, if there were a double fraud.
After a conversation, in which Mr. Hume, Mr. Wakley, and
Mr. Escott took part, the object of which was that more terns
should be given to the consideration of the Bill,
Sir JAMES GRAHAM stated that as the Government eel
desired to serve the public, he would suggest that the Chairmae
should report progress and ask leave to sit again to-morrow.
In reply to a question from Lord J. RUSSELL,
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that it was intended,
only to apply the superfluous wages or salary to the pare°,
of the debtors' liabilities. He was in the first instance to talc,
sufficient for his support. It was only after disobedience
the order of the judge that imprisonment was to be inflict
and in the event of a man being out of work and unable tA
comply wi•h the order he had only to apply to the judge, se"
the order would be set aside.

After a long conversation, as to the effect of the 2d dal.
interfering between master and man, the Committee Was"
journed till to.morrow.

LUNATIC ASYLUMS BILL.
On the motion for the third reading of this Bill,
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said that he hoped a provisil
would be introduced for securing the daily an
constant attendance of the Commissioners. The Honour,
able Member concluded by moving the following clan'e'
of which he had previously given notice :—And be it enacted'
that this Act and the several matters and things therein Can
tained shall commence and take effect from and after the Paggoi
ing of this Act, and shall continue in force for the torn
three years, and from thence to the end of the then next Bea
sion of Parliament.

Mr. HUNIE and Mr. WILLIAMS supported the clause.
Lord ASHLEY opposed the clause, and put it to the HI
to consider in what a position the legal and medial men wool
be placed, if, having given up all their preview professional ,
gagements, they were at the expiration of three years to be reef
dered liable to lose their appointments by the discontinuanc'e"
the Commission.

After some observations from:Mr. Sergeant MURPHY, the
[louse divided, when there appeared—
For the clause
Against it
Majority against the clause —3o
The clause was consequently lost.
(LEFT SITTING.)