The Sun.
London, England, 1845-08-22 00:00:00

REPRESENTATION OF SOUTH-
WARK.
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- Mr: KNIGHT—WiII you vote for its repeal ?
Sir-WILLIAM llox.Eswoarif said he could not give an
answer respecting a measure he had not paid any at-
tention to.—Uproar.)
Mr. ARCHER said ho had a question to put. It was
in reference to the statement Sir William Molesworth
had made on Monday evening on the subject of the
future endowment of the Roman Catholic Church. As
he (Mr. Archer) believed some misrepresentation had
been made by the public press of what was said on that
oceision, he wished Sir William would give his exact
views on the subject.
Sir WM. MOLES WORTH said that he would not pledge
himself not to support any endowment of the Roman
Catholic creed. He was, on that occasion, referring to
the Protestant Establishment of Ireland. It was his
wish to see- that Church abolished—(Cheers)—at it was
the monster grievance of Ireland, aNd the funds applied
to other purposes. He was not at that time prepared to
say' how these funds should be applied. He would not
pledge.himself for or against the proposition, that a
portion of the funds of that church should be applied to
the support of the Roman Catholic priesthood. But he
Said on that occasion, as he. said now, if ever he mide up
his mind on this proposition before he took any step to
give effect to his views, he would come before his con-
stituents, and should they think fit, place his resignation
in their hands.—(Loud cheers.)
Subsequently-when this subject was referred to by
another gentleman,
Sir. WILLIAM Alautswonnt said he would always
oppose taking any of the funds of the people of England,
or any portion of the consolidated fund for the purpose
of the Roman Catholic church. Should he ever think it
expedient that the Roman Catholic•faith should be en-
dowed, he would propose it at the expense of the funds
of the Irish Protestant church.—(Cheers and uproar.)
C ,plainliawKiNs then moved a resolution, which he
prefaced by a few observirions, to the effect th it, after
hearing Sir William Molesworth, they (the meeting)
considered him a fit and proper person to represent the
Borough in Parliament.
Mr.- PococK seconled the resolution.
Mr." JOHN ROBERTS, a non-elector, came forward to
move an amendment that Sir William Molesworth was
not a fit and proper candidate.
thsjections being taken_to Mr. Rob2rts proposing the
amendment, it was taken up by
Mr. MAYNARD, who moved it in rather a violent
speech, amidst the cheers of his supporters, and the dis-
satisfaction of the bulk of the 'meting.
The amendment being seconded, it was put, and lost
by a very large majority.
The original motion was then put, and carried with
about 50 dissentients.

After Sir W. MOLESWORTH had returned thanks, the
meeting, which was an exceedingly crowded one, broke
up.

DUTCH PAPERS.
TIIE HAGUE, AUG. 17.—Her Majesty the Quern re-
turned yesterday from Sootsdyk to this town.
We learn thut his Excellency the Minister of the In-
terior is expected to return to the Hague at the begin-
ning of next month.

We hear that•the Department of the Interior has ad-
dressed a letter to the Agricultural Commission, stating
the King's desire to bo immediately informed of the real
state of the potato crop, and that, after the reports
which have been received, the public is to be made ac-
quainted with the real state of the case.
The Convention is now published, and concluded be-
tween the Netherlands and Belgium for the construction
of a lateral canal near the Meuse, between the cities of
Liege and Maestricht, which was ratified by the King of
the Netherlands on the 20th, and by the King of the
Belgians on. the 24th of July, 1845. The ratifications
were exchanged at the Hague on the 31st of July.
Letters have been received from the Villa Sominariva,
which state that the climate does not agree with her
Royal Highness Princess Albert of Prussia, and that Dr.
Veh ,etneyen, her physician, has advised her to return to
the Palace of Camenz, where the cool and salubrious airs
of the mountains of Silesia has always had a beneficial
effect on her Royal llighness's health.

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DUDLEYT—A dreadful colliery explosion, attended
with loss of life, took place at a colliery near Tivi,lale, belong-
ing to Messrs. Wsgstaff and Skidmore, on Monday last, by
which seventeen men were so severely burnt that little hopes
were at first entertained of the recovery of any of them, but
we are happy to hear that several are now out of danger.
Seven of them, however, still lie in a very precarious state,
and two are since dead. It appears that 29 men and lads
went down to work in the pit that day, but there not being
room enough for all, six of them went up again, and amongst
them one from whose neglect the explosion took pi:cc It was
the duty of this man, before the rest went into the works, to
take a lamp and see if any foul air remained, and on the morn-
ing the explosion took place he took his lamp and went to the
place, where there was a large quantity of coal down, which the
men were going to get out, and on his return told them there
was no -danger, and then went up with five others. The
men then went to their work, and as soon as one of them
got on to the coal with his candle an explosion took place, which
was folloied by two others. The scene was truly awful.
Some of the men who had escaped the fire were not so fortu-
nate in escaping the suffocating gas ; they had to walk through
it on their way to the bottom, and often fell down from its
effects. The excitement in Dudley was very great, as many
of the men lived there, and the street was crowded with persons
waiting to see them brought to their homes.— WorceVershire
Chronick

1 A public meeting of the electors of the parish of St.
• George the Martyr, Southwark, was held last evening
in Knighton's Rooms, Webber-street, Blackfriars•road,
for the purpose of forwarding the election of Sir Wm.
Molesworth, and to hear an address from that gentle.
man in exposition of his political principles. Mr. Lee
Stevens was called to the chair.
The CHAIRMAN briefly introduced the business of the
meeting, by hoping that every one who might think
proper to address it wouli have a fair hearing. That
was the only way to arrive at truth. The principal ob-
ject of the meeting was to hear an address from Sir W.
Molseworth, ssho was prepared fairly and honestly to
state his opinions, and ready to subject himself to any
examination they might think proper to impose. Sir
William was no mere theorist or unknown politician. Ile
Was a tried and a practical man. He had been nine
years in Parliament, and during that time he always
acted with the Radical party and against the Whigs.
They (Sir William Molesworth's friends) i❑ supporting
such a gentleman had been charged with going over to
the Whig 4. Nothing could be more preposterous. Sir
William was no Whig, nor had lie ever been one. He
consistently opposed that party on account of their stand
still policy, and actually lost the representation of Leeds
by holding a peace meeting in direct opposition to the
Whigs of that town. To call such a gentleman a
nominee of the Reform Club, as had been done by M.
Miall, was therefore most unjustifiable. After making
a comparison between Sir William Molesworth and Mr.
Miall, giving the preference to the former over the
latter, as being a well known and tried man, he con-
cluded by calling on Sir William Molesworth to address
the meeting.
Sir W. MoLEswonne, who, on rising, was received
with great cheers, said that he did not come forward to
thrust himself on a great constituency like that of South.
wark, He had no wish to divide the liberal interest ;
and if he thought that any other man would better secure
the support of the liberal electors than himself, he would
gladly give way for him, and assist to effect his return
by every means in his power.— (Cheers.) He would now
go into a statement of his political views, and he would
first Begin with the measure which had occasioned the
greatest excitement in the borough, and on which there
existed the greatest difference of opinion, viz., the May-
coeth grant. He would premise his remarks by declaring
that he was in favour of the voluntary system.—(Cheers.)
He had always opposed grants of public money for
ecclesiastical purposes. He was opposed to connexion
between Church and State, and considered that every
religious body ought to support its own minister,
He now came to the real point at issue. He had been
asked hew he would have acted had he been in Parlia-
went on the proposition for an additional grant to the
Roman Catholic College of Maynooth ? His answer
was, that he would have felt it his duty to have given his
vote in favour of that measure.—(Cheers and uproar.)
It was a measure of political necessity in the existing
state of the country.—(llisses and cheers.) It was, he
repeated, a measure of political necessity—(Cries of
" No, no," and " Yes, yes")—and, further, it was an
educational measure. This statement might appear in-
consistent with the opinion he had given against eccle-
siastical endowments.—(Cries of " It is," and cheers.)
His reason for supporting it was, that the grant to May-
nooth was a condition, among others, imposed on this
country at the time of the union. It was a contract
entered into with the Irish people that a certain
portion of money should be set apart for the education
of the Irish priesthood. It was a grant in lieu of the
property taken from the Roman Catholic Church at the
Reformation, and which had been left to the Roman
Catholics by their pious ancestors. Property, which
had not been applied to State purposes, but applied to
support a Church and a creed that seven•eighths of the
Irish people entirely repudiated.—(Cheers.) Had that
grant not., been conceded it would have excited unmi-
tigated hostility in the mind of the Irish people. They
would hare declared there was no hope of justice from
England; and it would have given increased force to the
repeal of the union.—(Hear, hear.) Though he was in
favour of this grant under the circumstances, he would
Oppose any further increase of it, arid he would also go
against any grant of public money for ecclesiastical
purposes.—(Cheers.) The Hon. Baronet then went into
the other topics of his published address, in almost the
Some jerms as those he employed on Monday night
—the extension of the suffrage, vote by ballot, triennial
Parliaments, free trade and the corn laws. He ex-
pressed himself in favour of the new poor-law, though
he admitted that it contained many defects. These
defects would, however, have his best attention, and he
would be perfectly willing at all times to remedy proved
abuses. The lion. Baronet concluded his address
amidst mingled cheers and hisses, the former however
greatly preponderating. •
Mr. KNIGHT asked Sir William Molesworth what he
would_ have done in regard to the Commons Inclosure
Bill had he been in Parliament ?
S'Lr WILLIAM MOLESWORTH did not consider he
ought to be called upon to give •an opinion on retro-
spective questions which were settled, and on which he
had never voted.