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those clubs. 'i. The Noble Duke,ll-Oi .1 .
on ' the people to resist the Cath(NsAiiiitluolioo-
vernment to do that, the attempt if-which would be
as futile as the effort to roll back the waves of ' the
sea-=-40 '-disfranchise - the 40s. • freehOlders. The
Noble Lord' then adverted to other pOintrs,_in which
the resolutions of Irish Brunswickll-IgeecitgAtA.,”
responsive to the language of his Grace's • letter.— •
His Grace had stated that the chief leader of the
Catholics had deserved to be hanged as a traitor 20
years ago. The guild of the merchants of Dublin
respond that the difficulty would be to find rope
enough to hang all such traitors. His Grace talked
of the last 'Session as being most' unfortunate • in its
"Ctirseileipticegsio& arid:- conciliation;"- and alluded
to a certain Duke as a traitor to the cause Of Protest-
ant Aseendan:Cy ;• and the Irish meetings respond; by
branding, stWo - cotiverts, to Coriciliatido,.- aSt , .Ttidas
Brownlow- and siAeariot iDawsOn. The- Noble .Earl •
repeated his • orkt strong :opinion, that- it was the
intention of the Premier to do something towards a ,
conciliatory arrangement of . the question ; but in- ..
stead of waiting for a concordat, as it was called,
with the Pope, he thought a short Act passed this
year, removing the disabilities, and stating the kind
of securities considered necessary, would be sufficient •
to set the question at rest. But though the Duke
of Wellington might be faVourable to concession,
there was another Minister, the head of the Home
Department, who would, he believed, be opposed
to it and go out. It was strange that in the sate
of the country, they could obtain any Ministry to
'adhere together who were not united on this que,:•.
tion : but so it was, and they had seen men differ-
ing essentially on important matters, still adhering
together for mutual convenience. In one point he
agreed with: the • Duke of Newcastle,--that such
Miniaterial.coalitions were disgraceful, and ought to
be put an end to by. withholding the publics 1 t
deuce from those who formed them. In his (Lt-,.t
Grosvenor's) opinion, no Administration should be
allowed to stand *hose members were not cordially
united on all great questions of our foreign and do-
Mestic policy; and. particularly on that great guess
tion affecting the Catholics. It was true that last
year helad.given his support to an Administration
not founded on such a principle, but the majority of
its most influential members were in favour of it,
and he • had no doubt that had that Administration
continued to exist another year the question would
ore this have been. carried. However,f that Admi-
nistration was not now in existence, and henceforth
it should be a principle with him (Lord Grosvenor)
not to give his support or confidence to any Ad-
ministration not united on this great and fun-
daniental , question, and who did not make it a
cabinet measure.—(Cheers.)—The Noble Lord
next adverted to•the oaths which, as a Peer, lie, in
common with all other Lords, was obliged to take in
the House, on taking their seats, which, lie observed,
from the great illiberality of their tone and laugore
towards the Roman Catholics, were extremely dts-
tasteful to him and to many others. He did not say
that he would not take the oaths again, when neva-
sion should call on him, but he would alwayS con-
tend .that they were extremely distasteful. Nis
Lordship next alluded to the conduct of Mr. Peel in
his , visit to ,his .native .county, and to his studied
silence on all political topics. This, he drought,
was no more than prudence required of a Minister
but, coupling it with the speech of Mr. Dawsort,
and the connexion of that gentleman in office with
the Duke of, Wellington, and his alliance with Mn.
Peel's family, it was at least a circumstance that de-
served to be noticed at the present time, though he
owned he was not disposed to lay much stress upon
it as a proof of any change of opinion in Mr. Peel
on one great question. His Lordship, after com-
menting on, and warmly eulogizing, the spirited
conduct of Lord William Paget at his recent visit
to hiS constituents at Carnarvon, again expressed his
strong conviction that the Catholic question would be
set at rest within a much shorter period than Most
persons imagined. It was impossible not to feel
that until that was done this country could never be
able to assume her proper position among the nations
of Europe. Indeed the blockade of the Dardanelles
had given to the question quite a new aspect, and the
probability or chance of our being engaged in a
general war .-must necessarily accelerate its final
settlement. -Before he sat down he would say one
word as to , the recent absurd attempts to convert the
-Irish to- th'e reformed faith. Had the Catholics of that
: country Ohtained full possession of their rights,the thing
might be tried, and perhaps with some good effect.
But in their present state:of excitement, the attempt
was worse'than insanity, and whenever it was made
it was an titter failure. • • He did not say that no more
remained to be done for Ireland than a concession of
their rights to the Catholics ; but he would contend
that that concession must precede every other at-
tempt to improve the condition of that country, and
without it all such attempts would be fruitless. His ,
Lordship thanked the meeting for the attention with
which they had listened to thiS frank declaration of
Iris opinions in an assembly where all might utter
their opinions without • restraint, and concluded by
proposing---" Success to, and a general spread of, the
genuine principles of Whiggism." (Cheers.)
The next toasts were--" The people, and may
they ever know their rights, and, knowing, maintain
them."—" May the people and their rulers bear in
constant remembrance the -example of I 688."
" The Habeas Coq*: Act and Trial by Jury."
" The Liberties of Europe, in spite of the Holy
Alliance."
" The Free States of South America," (Cheers
president, E. D. Davenport, Esq., and the
)
'ssas received with loud applause.
The YI.PE-PRESIDENT next proposed the health
in returning thanks, trusted that
ot(gif
theirs
Mr. DAVENPORT,
he was warranted in attributing the very kind and
cordial manner in which the meeting had received his
name to an approval of his public .conduct. His
confidence in the Administration might be said to
be like Hotspur's commentary on his wife's discre-
tion, who would not say that which she did not
know, and so far might be trusted. He believed
that Ministers would not be
discussion,There Ilvveirtrt
they made any concessions to the Roman Catholics,
it would be from the same motives as bad actuated
outrage upon public feeling; angduli !ter tolifou:gthlyt violent.
outrage
them in the case of the Dissenters—not that they.
Were convinced of the policy and justice of that
course, but because they could not help it.—
every session.fifty questions under.
each an honest and. -a,corrupt side, to which side
(Cheers,)—Catholic emancipation w(aiseetilaortedth. the only
Ni
lo.enre tihnartunfeetde,rt
he do,,rtchoen 3dlicatitarsy.i individuals,
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s, an d
gthueeyst
Club, it' continuing its
meeting, notwithstanding the suggestions of some
gentlemen last year that it should be discontinued,
as a-compliment to the then Administration,- was
fully justified -by the events that had since taken
place. His Noble Friend (i.ord Grosvenor) had
period, was
ptheersirevehraisntocrey.9ars
,the
urged them to persevere, as their club was founded
nii.s.,islitigry.,amply
on principles which could not be effected by any
change of men. His Lordship's prediction, at that
se
in
nd
the Cabinet
those
by "ethreonl afterwardshe
fully justified. '. We had bad since then
three administrations, each cordially' detesting his
predecessor, but following their principles.—(Cheers
and laughter.)---The Hon. Gentleman trhen adverted
the disputes which upset the late Ministry, and
°b
served disputes
se s i
tut'ine7
raised
quietly()tithe same bench, acting under one die.
tator. They also had witnessed, and it was a proof
how laxity of public.principle'deadened the best feel-
ings of our nature the former friends of Mr. wtesd
Can-
ning, men who had been called into existence by
his breath, sit in the same Cabinet with the very in-
dividuals whose conduct, a few months before, had
hurried their benefactor to his grave.—(Cheess.)_
Such an Administration could not last, and they soon
saw its dissolution hastened by an old trick Which
Mr. Haskissop attempted to play off on the Premier.
That trick had worked- very -well three 'or foils
months before, and produced its effect, but it was
too stale for the " old soldier," who was too dull
or too dogged to understand the joke of a sham re-
signation, It NV4`i taken in it, literal sense ; and