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London, England, 1819-03-05 00:00:00

COALS.

Mr. LYGON presented a petition from the Borough of
Bewdlev, against any alteration of the Doles on Coals.
The CHANCELLOR of flit; EXCHEQUER hoped that all
further discussion on this subject would be reserved till it

was regularly brought before the House, on some motitt
He could not see any advantage that could result from the
discussion of the question at prcient.
Mr. LAMBTON said, that a petition on this subject had
been forwarded to hint, but he delayed presenting it till he
received some others. which he expected from serer,:!
time towns. The object of the petitioners was to loe relieved
from the pressure of the present Tax.
Mr. DAVENPORT said, that more serious didicalty and
distress had never been known in any country than this
country now felt. The manufacturers, the proprietors of
coal-mines, and the lessees of coal-mines, looked tti
'Tient for protection. Ile would state his, opinion broadly;
the Minister .who taxed the raw material was a tool:ow-
minded man) by doing it he robbed the country of thegreatest
blessioz.

Mr. LITTLETON regretted that the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer had not said a little More as to his intentions. He
had only deprecated discussion, tie thoug4 that no COlll-
- should be appointed on the subject. He wished to
know from the Member for Durham, whether he intiuded to
more fora Committee before Easter ?

Mr. LANIBTON conceived it to be right that both parties
should have a hearing. At the Commitice,the Hon. Member
for Staffordshire, and those whom he represented, could state
all the circumstances of their case. The great object was to
relieve not only London, but aH Or towns along the coast,
and to improve the coast trade, which- was of the greatest
importance. In Sunderland, one half of the inhahitants
were paupers, and 100 stamen were ready to emigrate fur
want of employment. The Member for Surrey could tell on
what day he meant make Ws motion ou the subject; fur
himself, he waited till he should receive the petitions that
were preparing by the inhabitants of the coast, and he would
then submit a motion on the subject it the Member fur Surrey
would not.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that he
should feel it his duty to oppose any motion for a Committee.
He deprecated discussion, because it might be productive of
touch evil, and could produce no practical good.
Mt. COUWLENAY differed from the Hon. Member for
Staffordshire, as to the propriety of a Committee on the sub-
ject. It should undergo a fair, a full, and a dispassionate in-
quiry. The place' which he represented (Exeter) was inte-
rested in the question, btit they would not oppose the amplest
investigation. He would not undertake to say, looking to
the conflicting interests involved bow the question ought to
be di, posed of ; lint every class of persons could state its own
interest before a Committee of Inquiry, which the House
would not in justice refuse.
Mr. HOLME SUMNER said, that since he had been
alluded to, he ruse to state that he would introduce a motion
on the subject, if the Members for London, who were prin-
cipally concerned, would not; and if it should be any satis-
faction to the Member for Staffordshire to know the precise
day, he should he happy to communicate it to him, whenever
it should be fixed. The Hon. Member represented persons
connected together, and tremblingly alive to their own in-
terest. The alarm had spread like an electric shock. The
moment you touch a manufacturer, the excitation was instan-
taneous and universal. He was unfortunately situated.—
Those whom he represented were must grievously oppressed,
and the apathy with which they bore it was most wonder-
ful.—(A laugh.)—But be would not neglect their interests.—
He hoped the subject would have a fair investigation, and
trusted that it would be coolly considered whether his con-
stitneets were equally burdened as other countries. He was
confident this would nut be denied, notwithstanding the
avowed opposition of the Chancellor of the Exchequer.,
Mr. WILSON thought, that the equalization should not be
pressed, if it would hurt the manufacturers; but he hoped
that thu Metropolis and other places could be relieved with-
out burdening the manufacturer. •

Mr. CALVERT hoped that the Chancellor of the Exche-
quer would be disappointed in his attempt as much as the
Noble Lord had been lately, and that relief could be obtained
from the very heavy and unequal pressure of the coal-tax.—
The Hon. Member for Surrey had complained of the apathy
of his constituents ; he could not do so of his constituents,
for he bad already presented some Petitions from them, and
he should soon present more.
Mr. RENNET said, that the alarm of a Tax on Coals had
spread like wild-fire through the towns; and it was no won-
der, considering that they were literally in a state of beggary.
He would vote for taking away the tax to-morrow, but he
would not vote for imposing it on others.
Mr. LYTTLEMS said, that however heavy the Tax might
be on London, the Manufacturing Districts were unable to
bear any part of it. The Committee could nut hare for its
object to inquire whether a new Tax could now be imposed.
He begged to impress upon the Right Hon. Gentleman, that
there were the strongest financial reasons against laying on
such a Tax; had be done it a few years ago, how dreadful
would be the state of distress in which the Inland Coun-
ties would now be plunged. But the manufactures
were now reviving. Was that a time for overwhelm-
...

log them with a iiew Tax ? The distress and sufferings
of the poor were now beginning to be relieved. By a pe-
tition he had lately presented, it appeared that the pour-rates
in many places amounted to 40s. per acre. Was that a state
of things which could bear more taxes ? If the tax was iii-

tolerable to London, it would be doubly so to the inhabitants
of any other place. He hoped that t lie meaning of the Right
Hon. Gentleman's statement to-night was, that he would
not support a new duty un coals.
Mr. HART DAVIS was understood to speak in favour of
the equalization of the duty.
A MEMBER stated, that manufactures had not vet revived
n the district which be represented,and that he ahuuld there-
fore. fur the best reasons, oppose a tax on coals.
Mr. WAITHMAN said, that the Corporation of London
had not yet given any opinion on the question. It was the
inhabitants in general of the City of Westminster, and or
the Borough, who had held meetings and petiiiimed on the
subject. But the Corporation would soon tahe the sabject
into consideration; and he had no doala but they would
agree with their fellow-citizens, and petition against the
grievous oppression of the tax.
The petition was then read, and laid on the table.

BEVERLEY ELECTION COMMITTEE.
Hon. L. Du n das, J. T. Thorp; Lord Sefton, Hon. G.
Pelham, .3, Bruivne, Hun. F. St. John, Hon. G. 11. L. Ihroditi,

Sic t,e.l4,ettiorii J. 74.
Fazaiserley, W. E. Powell, Marquess of litainnoia„ P. At'tn
M. Wood.
Mr. M IaHUEN presented a Petition from Bradford assisL
the Alteration of the Coal Duties.
Mr. METHUEN a6O presented a Petition from the La-
!snorers in Agriculture, and other inhabitants of Wisthl6
'
praying for Relief from the Weight of Taxation. W3s' -
observed, at a time when distress of a most aggravated de-
scription pressed upon the labouring population of th.
Country, not becoming in the House to accede to new Grautt
to the Royal Family, or to contiisue Sinecure Officers under
tlfe name of Lords of the Adwiralty.—The Petition was lard
upon the table.
Mr. W. SMITH presented a petition from Norwich, (Oar
ins for another Gaol Delivery in that City.
Mr. GRAHAM, in behalf 'of Lord A. Hamilton, postpos.ehel
the Notice respecting the Burgh of Aberdeen, from the 10"
to the 23d instant.
Mr. WILBERFORCE presented a petition from the toolt
of Boston against Capital Punishments.
ROMAN CATHOLICS.
Lord NUGENT, previous to presenting a Pei'
lion which he held in his bands front the Roma('
Catholics of Great Britain, praying for relief Iron;
those restrictive laws which deprived !heat cl
their privileges as British 'subjects, begged
leave to make some observations. The peCtd°ll
was signed by no less titan 10,300 persons who
came under the description now mentioned. Be'
side the signatures of many men of the highest r"
spectability, the petition was also signed by dr.
ven Peers -and thirteen Baronets. To this pet'
Lion was also attached the signature of the Puke
of Norfolk; Earl Marshal of Eogland. The pert'
tioners did not presume to dictate to the House)
by pointing :out any particular mode of relief,
They merely prayed generally for a relief from the
disabilities under which they laboured, and Le;',l,
the mode to the %visdoos of Parliament.
Lordship therefore hoped that the House woa
consent to receiving the petition. It was a subi
jeer which had formerly met with the gene' ,
sympathy nod the general applause of-Many ch.'
ractets of the first distinction in the times 1"
which they lived: The times alluded to by
,Noble Lord were not very remote. Many Gentle'
men now alive, well temeinhered those pats"':
tic characters who had shone with uneffi"
mon lustre, reflecting honour not only. on
selves, but also on human nature. They vve;i
great and good men, and their 'virtues w°"'`
long live in the gratitude of their conotrY"
men. Amongit those distinguished stipportetB
of the Catholic Claims.; was one whom Oa
1-louse would long and deeply lament, the
Right Hon. Mr: Elliott, who had lest behind hi!'
the example of an extended and active Onbil
life, honoured with the esteem and admiration ('
all parties. To the care of this great man.
Windham, in his last moments, had resignedtilet
support of the Catholics ; but both were now s
os
to the House. He then paid a tribute of proi'r.
to Mr. Burke and Sir George Saville, as sta'ti'c
i
t
friends to the Catholic cause. He trusted thic
the question would in a short time be br"gi.
heroic the House by talents far superior tnc`)"s..
own, and that before the end of the
lion the interests, not only of that n""ova
roes class of our population, but of the wil0„
empire itself, would he consolidated by its culls
plete settlement. He anticipated such a
from the uniform and steady conduct of the Li
tiIOHCS, and the tone and temper of their aPPlicts.
tion.. They .complained of two grievances;
litical dissoalifiearion and religious
ohloguY l3l " I
stated the latter to arise out or the former•
submitted that their disnoalification sprung 0"
of scruples for which men wele only respoosih.l,ei
to their God ; and that tl:e respect which they
to those scruples -was an earnest of the fidel.l
with which they would fulfil any new duties wb'ci,
emancipation might entrust to their !lauds. 111',71
urged that political disqualification followed
every where, even into the precincts of Orivato
life, and marked them out as'a sect cut off fr°
all the rest on account of some dark suspiciont't4
But they were Englishmen Englishiaen in L';riti
and education—Englishmen in feelings ann.otts
blood. Yet through a constancy to relic
lica
scruples, which did them honour, they %Ye" wis
(Need to the condition of aliens in their °
be'
ctiontry. They were, indeed, ' allowed "'owl •
queath the property which they bad received
that
their ancestors, but with the conscioooeSs 0,
political disqualification would preclude that Pdrot
perty bow bestowing on their descendant' tit
rank and influence and capacity of serving Area,
country, country, to which they were so deeply en"(l
IViott could be a nobler and more ititeresting sPe-a
tacle than an English Roman Catholic, eioins'oe,i
by birth and nature with rank, fortune, i)01
abilities, calculated to make him areal,
use
the eyes of his country, sacrificing all ti
advantages to the inviolability of his r at
ginits scruples The Roman• Catholics of Ghat
Britain bad been treated as disaffected men ; "tr.
when had they been found wanting to the s°',
port of their country, and the glory of the elo
d
pine, even when they groaned under a systen
the most oppressive penal laws ? Wino had beed
more active and more devoted to the defencte,o
their country, and of Protestant Soverel?
when they were menaced by the armaments 13.,„
Catholic Prince, than the English Catholics the!'',
selves, before those degrading penal laws 14(11:re
tered their patriotism anti the'r energies ? ‘l.
,„"ca
oot'the li.ltlingliams and Pembrokes those 0"-e.
Catholics ? And when. tine Ca'holics'were rePro,
seated as disaffected and dangerous to the G° to
stitution , it shotdd be recollected that it wasta
those very Catholics that we owed Magna C1°,14
and the Declaration of our Right. With b
en
many pledges and faith which their condoctLieo
given, what reason was there to consider ti'l,
dangerous He introduced the present Petitihe
as that of the Catholics of England, beeanse rs
knew that their case dittoed in many particuiso,
front that of the Irish Catholics. But the "leost
sure, which he trusted would be adopted, the
be adopted for the benefit of both. Had blic
English Catholics separated their cause haul
of their Iti,b brethren, he did not (mow ti'`' iii
an honest mall, he could have stood forwor" do
their behalf. lie called upon the House t° the
justice to the true English spirit with which it
Catholics were animated, and to recollect that
,0.
was its duty to conciliate and unite time fee°o
in
and interests of all the classes of the einVir'' „iv
this spirit he presented the Pstition. nod sub'.
tett it to the wisdom, the humanity, and (her
mice of the House. feeliag
Lord Motept:To thought- that but oue,
Could prevail after the able and poweou.

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ilonse had just 'beard. lit 'had only
rill" to ,atid his hiiinble testimony to the steady(
iiintinnu.able• and Inyal cOntlnct oniftarialy held by
..! Roman t atliolicS.`\, With respect to Their pe-
tition, it was Worded in a manner at Once simple
find
modest. Yet manly- and spirited. It did not
enter into an enumeration of their, grievances,
House
it,
--'s, petitioners we're convinced that the
_ was well acquainted with theth•—
it did intit deal in profeetioes of loyalty, for
the otitionets
conceived that the House Vr3S
Itlfficiently informed on that point. But it tilsted
that the m
House
11°t , in its wisdo and inStice, would
the
them any [(Alger to remain uniter the
trievances which preLtell so heavily upon them.,
Dr. Pitieezmone
called upon the House to look
at the
Wendt, retognitp
Signatures attached to the petition. It
arnotig them names illustrious in
the annals of the country; name's itniked op with
the Most glorious periuda of our hi-story, and re-
calling those acts and deeds in Ovate and war,
I,lticli had raised so high the honour and cha-
racter the empire ; names of person., who,
thou,o precluded from bowing the. public ex-
-I‘l.,tulde Of their ancestors, emoilated them in private
Irtues• Well then might the Noble Lord re-
rt,,,,
e ntend the petition to • the most. serious atten-
i'all of the House, cud ;t 'night not be presump-
ac'us ill him to invite Hon. Members; before they
the
on the queitian Nell, to re-perose carefully
the hisiory of the times •which•had 'given birth to
je restrictious on.th-e Catholics, and the pectilii r
,trcunistances on whicli.those rest fictions, were
tiattiniled. If those Ciecumstantes Were fnond no
l'itgerto exist, then Might the Hoitse 'safely come
ea the irresistible conclusion that the cause having
ttle•ased, the effect should.cease also. Toe present
.
st::llleut was most propitious for the settlement of
ec, unPoet ant a question ;. and it vrohld well
midste-
efnl Nor Parliaments, assembled in the
,
th',•ece• to replace within the pale of the Con
ainAl'un that portion -of-- Brivisii subjects who.l
bt-ae *ere still excludedb. and Whose loyalty likrti
itai t'ed them to be entitled to all the rights an
,pleges of Englishmen.
w., he Petition having been brought up and read,
-a ih,,
al - motion that it lie on the table,
N. ir, W • SMITH rose, not to oppose the motion,
allot tic ‘vished not only that the Petition should
the
fiiite'l to lie on the table, and to meet with _
th. lest attention, but that its prayer should be eri
saie Y granted ; but he rose to correct a slightl
V stalte into which the Honourable and Learned
t el:ie,u, 'au had•fallen. lie had stated that the
lit,;ll'es *ere the only sect excluded from all the
test of the Constitution. This was not cor-
te:t i all
other • Dissenters were subjected to the
b.
10nt,,,,1111 and abjuration act, and to religioni o
erIP anti pnliti'cal disqualification. There wasseat
Ili !, this difference,
‘ad. ir. that they might have a
'Nu,' timuse, but they could not hold even. thet
a t„t offices ; for the Indemnity Act did no
Verees:ilt then) any more than the Catholics. The
"h ii:1! then)
ihad his best wishes,
. for it stood
tilt iv grntinds of reason, Justice, and liberalny;
that 11111°I)ed, when its prayer had been granted,
Niel. e other Dissenters would obtain the same
TI,
%lee Petition was then ordered to lie on the
' alit( to be printed.
• •
lilt s BALLOT DEFAULTERS. _
avllne n'erjeant-at-Arms appeared at the 8ar,,.. and
4-,01:,;cell, that he- had taken William I ilney
aae)l.l ale Wellesley, Esq and Alarmailiike Law-
Illeblzio- ti• into custody, pursuant to the orders of
a (Ir r-,45e.---(A laugh.)
Ar 1•. '4NteiNG moved, that Mr. Wellesley
their
fees. —4l"son be discharged on payment of thei
k, '''‘Are,
Alt it, to,
W4lt /NT INDIA.—THANKS TO THE MARQUEsS
, air, c, OF HASTINGS, K. G.
his notice, to
prop etieteG rose, pursuant to
usual
latnasittl to the House to acknowledge in the us
t,Ltil 1 Fie services of the Marquess of Hastiogs,
.I.e iLtile gallant Officers under his command.
(4, sy -ed the House io understand, that the Vote
let
..sithicli lie called would be purely military, and
liar nvei degree of a political nature. He knew with
and
inlitlich suspicion it was the habit of the 1-louse
li
tlia„'"e Conntry to approach the subject of
that
successes and conquests. He knew
14,..r tirigin was generally ascribed to the irregti-1
itte4oall:iii°ll of the Government which regulate(
'ltti -.4,46 Of India, and that the wars in which our
ueela,:•ete successful were always thought to have
present -nlittivoked. But he was satisfied,
be lent that on the
th
~ neeasion, the case of this country could
Lee :a" as clear as the prowess of its armies had
at tll,- e°llsPicuotti. At the same time, in looking
1101 due immense extent of a country, where, from
se'e,e,ra of a, mere factory, we had become sove-
ittl7s uf a mighty empire—in considering that
i
ibileesrrn°rY extended one million of geographic
Ured' a;,1"1 its population amounted to one bun.-
tote tutilious, and that one-third of that tern -
tor and two-fifths of that population were under
lies authority ; that another fourth of the territo-
' she itttni another fifth of the population were in
con.4,llds of British Allies, and that the remainder
phis tit the Independent Powers of India, the
sa,,hher might well think that we had gained
hten an ascendancy by a succession of encroach-
tott;lB' Yet since the Government of those
of ttties bad been placed under the controul
Might Parliament, the character of this country
-' h
thti e completely cleared from such in 1
...) ni-
eotatts• At no period of our history had the
fsue,3 and Acts of Parliament been made more
ti, ifully the grounds of the instructions sent to
it,.'l.e Governinetit of India than when the Mar-
t"iess of Hastings had accepted the post which be
Ulf din (bat country. It might be in the memory
n_
t:htiliseppreeis.seount
Owffilicoen: he (Mr. C.) had succeeded
fl.,
01141; lee aot
fedntilopdoenrattilia)en that the principles uniformly
(atvlefrontibneeanL(n)fcej.nduiaiewielar,ei
xi.elcivr. ed that course, and added his strong recom-
-10 rielation to those which he had found recorded
')l,_ that at the commencement of the late cam-
cloign, the hands of The Indian Government were
tnpletely tied on all • • '
uenee of the
case should sudden( Points, unless a very urgent
in con 4 Y arise. Such a case bad arisen
Pindarsreei predatory invasions of The
he knownsi a power, the nature of which would
~. . rom the papers on the table, and which,
imilgit corisistin
regular and ir gof only thirty or forty thousand
re olar
h,,,ded
ar_, K horse, the refuse of all dis-
ii.i., "nes. bound by no moral or religions 0)-
11 1101 a, wile
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teessio‘ils, and iniapable of eqe.riencing a bi-kich
from regular warfare. The existence of Inch a
l'oiver might not have justified an' enterprise un-
dertaken against them at the hazard of stirring up
the'elements of disaffected Stales ; but it Was a
succession of positive aggressions and oetiages,
Such :A no Government Could tolerate- without di-
vesting itself of the dotieso:tf Goveritment, which
had called na to the held. He then described the
atrocities which the PindarreeS had- committed in
their various invasions of the Bengal and Madras
territories. Rapine, rape, murder, and conflagra-
tion, were not their accidental atteodants, but their
usual weapons, their regular warfare, and the con-
comitanta of all their temporary successes. There
were not wanting installers of villages, where
the whole of the 'female parts of the popida-
tio'O had precipitated themselves into wells, to
avoid the sufferings which they anticipated—.l
nor of parents and husbands . who had stir-
rounded the dwellings of their families, and pe-
rished with them, to avoid a more horrible fate.
If it were not- a shame to mix considerations of
juiciest with such instances of calamity, he might
add, that the results of those,iiivasions could not
have cost the country less''thau one million' ster-
hog. It was upon these-grounds that the Go-
vernmeht of -India had determined to act, when
dispatches from home untied its hands, and left
it at full liberty to adorif the.rneasures necessary
to maintain the dignity of'dießritish character
and power, and repress so EiaoC,inda an enemy.--
But the Governor-General foresaw that, however
insulated the enterprise might appear, its conse-
quences ruig,lit open an' extensive sphere of -ope-•
rations The Pindarrees had; served in the armies,
of the greatest Indian powers, and it was not
clear that they might' not derive assistance from
their ancient masters. The foresight, decision,
and extensive preparations of the Marquess of
Hastings surmounted all those perils. However
he might distrust Scholia and Holkar, he had no
reason to doubt the fidelity of' the Peishwa and
the Rajah of Nagporei. for he' had lately con-
cluded Treaties settling all existing differences
with those two Powers. Yet, though deceived
in his expectations, arid treacherously attacked
by those Princes, his preparations proved equal,
not only to repel the additional weight thus
thrown into the scale, and to drive theM from
their capitals, and the Peishwa from his throne,
to replace the rightful Sovereign, but to suppress
the enemy against whom he bad taken up arms;
to overawe Scholia so completely as to compress
him into a Treaty, and to 'educe Atneer Khan to
sudden submission, by the disbanding of his'army
and the surrender of his artillery. Holkatalone
remained, with whom a Treaty was on the eve
of conclusion, when one of his refractory chief-
tains seized the Regent and put her to death.—
The first intimation of this change had been an
attack on the outposts of our army ; but. the
battle of Maypore, in which Sir T. Hisloti and
Sir John Malcolm had displayed talents and bra-
very which would live in the memory of those
who had witnessed them, as long as there should
be a British name or a British flag in India--that
decisive battle, in which, the enemy had been com-
pletely defeated, had produced an order from Hol-
kar for the immediate surrender of the whole of
his territory to the right of the Nerbudda. He
should not attempt to describe all the brilliant
actions which bad been performed ; they were too
numerous. But in speaking of the valour of-our
troops, be would state, that out of the 90,000
men employed, only 10,000 were British. The.
remainder were natives, trained, indeed, and dis-
cipliued by British Officers, but from their °be.,
thence to their commatiders„ their equality of
courage, activity, and perseverance, with British
soldiers, showing, not only of what skill they
were capable, but proving the sincerity of their
attachment to the British Power. Many of those
serving in the Bombay army were subjects of the
Peishwa, who left no means untried to shake
their fidelity before he commenced hostilities;
but, though their friends and families were. In his
hands, and, in some instances, experienced the
effects of his vengeance, they remained uncor-
ruptible, and even carried to their officers the
proofs of the temptations held out to them,—
He then mentioued (lie case of Captain Stanton,
who, with a force of 900 or 1000 men, all na-
tives, ' with the exception of the artillery, bad
resisted, during a whole day, the whole of the
Mahratta army, the cavalry of which alone
amounted to 20,000 men. Not only had he main-
tained his position, but he had effected his retreat
in the night, and carried off all his wounded.—
He instanced similar acts of skill and bravery
on the part of Colonel Thomas Moore and
Brigadier General Smith. lie expressed the in-
tention of Government not to allow any further
increase of dominion, but to stand where our In-
dian Empire now stood. Before the late war we
had a frontier of 2000 miles to defend. It was
now notch advanced, but at the same time it was
narrowed to 700 miles. The Governor-General
had not been more fortunate in extending the
,ter-
ritories and protecting the sway of Great Britain,
than in mitigating the evils of war, and intro-
ducing the arts of peace, and rendering our em-
pire stable, by founding it on the .habits and in-
stitwions of the people, whenever those were not
inconsistent with justice. There was another
point to which he had to call the attention of the
House, One of the first results of the victory
over Holkar bad been the obtaining front him
an order for the surrender of all his forts to the
south of the Nerbudda. Sir TiloßVill Bishop was
the bearer of that order, and on serving it on the
Governor of Telnier had occurred that event which
was partly detailed in the papers before the
HOME. He did not mean to say that either his
Majesty's Government or the East India Company
were entirely satisfied with the information which
had yet been received. lostructiona had conse-
quently been sent to the Indian Government to
institute the deepest inquiry into the.snhject.—
Every inference, however, was hitherto in favour
of Sir T. 1-lislop : first, from the character, of a
British Officer ; secondly, tram the character of
that Officer himself, who was' constituted of all
the qualities repot, most to an unnecessary execu-
tion. Two distinct approbations of his conduct had
also been received from the Marquess of Hast-
ings, conveyed in the most unqiialified terms.—
Lord Hastings could have had no motive for
slurring over such a transaction, and be knew too

. .
Well hii as several instances bitcl proVid
doting the course Of the campaigki, to withhold
blame when blaiiie was (Inc. He should he, wrong
•if he attemped, Withoin further detail, to state
the amount of the justification,; but he should
say, that he did not think it complete. But many.
chasms had occurred in the transmission of intel-
ligeOte, and accounts of actions had sometimes
been received a year and an -half aft'er they had
been fought. Hit was asked why they, were pub-
lished in the Gaiette, he should 'state that it was
necessary they should appear there; to enable
the'Offieers who might have distinguished them-
selves to receive any of the honours to
which their skill or bravery might have en-
titled them. He looked confidently for the ar-
rival of fresh details respecting the transaction
of Talnier, but it would be unjust, on account of
their delay, to exclude Sir T. Hislop from the hO-
hours bestowed for the victory of Maypore.
should not think it unreasonable to cord on the
Journals—, hat the House suspended her judg
Ment respecting that part of Sir ThoMas•3 con-
duct. At the same time it would be an unncees-
sary to incorporate it with the vote it-
self. Unnecessary, because a separate resolution
of the House would loiVe the desired effect ; and
harsh, because the' vote i,t/Mild be read in frotit
of every Regiment in India, and though that
might not be too severe a Vengeance, the act
Was not justified, what would, be the situation of
that Officer if he had been unjustly arraigned, and
such a charge was uttered before an audience
which knew•it to be unfounded ? lie should think.
it ungracious in..him to move such_ a Resolution
as he had suggested ; but if it came from any Ho-
nourable Member, he should not oppose it. He
then moved--" That the Thanks of the House
be givento the Marquess of Hastings, (iovernor,
General of India; &c. for his promptitade and vi-
gour, displayed in the overthrow and suppression
Of the Pindarrees, and his skill, foresight, and•
judgment, manifested in his arrangements and
operations against the Mahratta Confederacy, in
a campaign marked by a series of successes and
victories highly hOnourableto the British Arms."
Lord MOR NMI. thought the conduct of the
Marquess of Hastings entitled to the most unqua-
lified approbation, and bestowed the highest praise
on the whole plan of the campaign, and on 'he
conduct of all the Officers of the Indian army. On
the policy of the war he declined speaking at pre•
sent, and be would also reserve.theexpression of
his opinion on the very extensive system of
alliance which had been adopted, and on several
other points, tilt a figure occasion. - The execu-
tion of the Killedar of 'rainier was at esent un-
explained.. Unless he could be regarded as a rebel,
he knew not 'on what ground his execution could
be justified, as he should have expected that he
would not be held amenable to us, but that he.
should rather have been sent before one of Holkar's
tribunals. He spoke with pain on this subject,
as be agreed with all that had been said in praise
of the military services of Sir Thomas Hislop;
but these, .however great, ought not to deter the
House from discharging its fluty,-by inquiring
into a transaction so extraordinary. He should,
therefore, when the proper time came, move a
Resolotion, declaring , "'That this House, in giving
their thanks to Lieutenant-General Sir Thomas
Hislop for his military services, does not intend
thereby to give any opinion on the execution of
the Killedar of Talnier, respecting which this
House is not yet in possession of satisfactory in-
formation.'' Ile thought it a '&4 to that part
of the army to which they were about to vote their
thanks, to the army generally, and above all, to
the population of our Indian empire, to come to
a vote like that which he had suggested. We
owed it not only to India, but to the world at
large, to uphold those principles of justice and
honour which we had hitherto maintained, and to
guard against the slightest reproach or suspicion
being attached to our conduct.
Mr. HOWORTH eulogized the intelligible and
excellent speech of the Right Hon. Gentleman,,
and concurred in the vote of thanks to the Mar-
quess of Hato ings,for the manner in which he had
conducted the. war to a triumphant conclusion ;
but he thought the vote ought not to pass the
House without some notice being taken of the
violation of the law which had taken place in the
extension: of our Indian territory.

General Gaosvariou offered a few remarks on
some of the ►operations of the campaign, and in
particular alluded to the movement on Poonah•
Fie remarked of the 65th regiment, that it had
this peculiarity attached to it, that three out of
four of its Field officers, acting as Brigadier-Ge-
nerals, Brigadier-Gen. Smith, Brigadier-General
Milne, and Brigadier-Gen. Fitzsimmons, were ail
acting in the Deccan.

Sir R. Wu.sos lamented the extension of our
Indian Empire. He considered the Marquess of
Hastings to be in every respect entitled to pre-
eminent distinction, and Aotild vote for the mo-
tion : he, however, thought the Resolution an-
nounced by the Noble Lord necessary to sustain
the character of that House.

Sir J. MACKINTOSH complimented in the warm,,
est terms the clear, candid, and elegant narrative
of the Right Hon. Gentleman. He fully eon,
curred with the vote of thanks to Lord Hastings,
and eulogized the conduct of Sir J. Malcom, Mr.
Elphinstone,- and Captain Staunton. For Sir 'l'.
Hislop 'would allow the presumptions in his
favour suggested by his own character and the
approbation of the Governor-General, and trust-
ed and believed he would be able to explain the
justice of that act which was now called in ques-
tion, but on this point explanation was necessary,
Sir W. BURROUGHS concurred with the motion,
and maintained the justice and policy of the war
were as clear us the events of it had been splen-
did, or be, for one, would not have thanked the
Noble Marquess for all that had been achieved.

The motors was then agreed to, as were vote,
of thanks •to the Brigadier-Generals, Officers,
Non-commissioned Officers, and Privates of the
Indian Ar.my, and the Speaker .was directed tu
notify the same in the usual way to the Marquess
of Hastings.

Lord MORPETH then moved the. Resolution
which be had previously announced.
Mr.FORLIE3 thought an inquiry into the Con-
duct of Sir T. Hislop wils absolutely necessary.—
I-Ie had in his possession a letter, which Sir 'l'.
llislop had written to a friend at :Madras, and

which he vroithl read, but which was so far from
justifying bis conduct, that—
Mr. .I?Aat(Fitif spoke to order, and appealed
to the feelings of the individual if it would be well
to raise a prejudice, under present circumstances,
against an absent individual.

Mr. FORBES desisted, but said be bad thought
it 'right to explain the motives which governed his
vcift.—The Resolution was then agreed to.

CONINIISSIbNERS OF BANKRUPTS.

Mr. WaoviEstAY, after a number of prefatory
observations, in which he dwelt on the extreme
inconvenience to which the Commissioners of
Bankrupts were exposed in Guildhall, and the ex-
pediency of thefr 'removal, pointing out Holborn as
a good scite for the erection of a building for tl►e
purpose, moved that a Select Committee he ap-
pointed to consider of a proper piece of ground for
erecting suitable buildings for holding tl►e public
and private meetings.Of Commissioners of Bank-
rupts, and for the transaction of all business in
Bankruptcy, and that they report their opinion
thereo►► to the House.

Mr. JOHN SMITH opposed the motion, contend-
ing ,hat the Sittings of the Commissioners ought
not to be removed out of London. If Guildhall,
were inconvenient, there was a scite adjoining
which might be obtained. He moved the pre-
vions question.
Mr:Alderman WOOD also strongly objected to
thcretnoval of the'Meetings oot of the City.

Alrr Alderman 'WAITIIMAN recommended the
t'e-visioriqif the Whole system. He could see t'.reasOn why there-should be seventy-two Commis-
sionets for Bankrupt -business, while one Com-
missioner transacbed all that of Insolvency. He
opposed the retnoval.
Mr. COURTENAY defended the motion. The
only object which his I-lon. and Learned Friend
had in view was, that the business should be in-
vestigated in a. Committee.

After a tew words against the motion fror Mr.
Wilson, Mr. Ellis, Mr. Marryat, and Mr. Harvey,
and a short reply from Mr. Wrottesley, the Houhet
divided—For the motion, 62—Against it, 27.