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Hon. Gentleman must -admit that it should, on oar
ir:)rt, be done by way of advice, and not by coo.
;enlingthose whom we had assisted. When the
t;t:lty canse to this country, it was necessary to make
seme arrangement with respect to the militarylif
en attack was inadeon Sicily. The inconvenience
of -settling the exchange of the 300,0001. first voted
Mss very great. i3y. the new arrangement, and by
pr..viding the sum here, •nculoss could accrue to this
cboiltry : besidns, there were arrears du& on the
- payment of the iginal agreement, and it was in
mo-igation of this, as well as for the better inducing
the Sicilian Crown to accede. to the treaty. Tins
tetaty first underwent a discussion here, between
Lis Majesty', Ministers and the Ministers of ilia Si..
c lian Majesty, who had no doubt thejreaty would
acecled ite and ratified ir.'the manner it was Sent
over, and upon every consideration he hOped there,
could be IYO good reason found why the House
-6hauld witiihold the grant which was so confidently
expetled from us.
Sir J. IVE wroaT said that he did not know of any
err'ears, b ing due with respect to the rate of ex-
. chintge ; he thought it extraordinary that any duty
could inate.rially effect so large a sum. It ‘Vould
hove been far more advisable, and much more ex-
pedient,. if the first grant bad been seurbut inamedi-
etely ; the remainder then might he sent before the
l'arliatnent close& . He would 'ask if the precluding
the exportation of corn was no grievant:le ? The Go-
verument is too apt to be thought of, and not the
people whom we profess to defend ; , we should see
Y.. that the body and strength of the country, was not
- t misapplied. He adverted to the dispkehes of Lord
Wellesley which lay on the table, relative to the
affairs in Spain; in these a long line of dilation
'might be traced, in respell to not 'ading before the
meeting of the Cortes. ; A Governtpent should not
be diCteted to ; it was on this principle the French'
got possessiou of the country ; it is a dangerous po-
licy, we ought rather to look 'to the atiedions of tee
Beoyle, and consult the common cause.
The CHANCELLOR of the .EXCHEQUER in expla-
' nation, state:!,
.that the additional grant of 100,0001.
was not proposed. in this, but in the last Session.—
The Hon. Baronet said that thepeoplesuffered froni
the regulations respecting core; this, however, was
occasioned by privileges belunging to certain gasses
- and corporattens of p,ople' in the country itself.
' Gen. TAfteuToer, observed that nothing had been
raid with regard to thtsdetence.ef the cou;itry. In-.
stead of 10,000, he believed there were 15,000 men
locked up Were ; this was not a wise measure. The,
manner too of transmitting this grant in money he,
conceived to be injurious to this Country ; such ab
ex peud tue- was not justifiable.; he therefore moved
as au Awendment, " That instead of 400,0001. in
tlie resolution, 300,0001. should be inserted."
4,div ision was called for, when.. there appeared—
For the Resolution
For the Amendment
Majority

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PRIVATELY STEALING BILL; '
Sir SAMUEL ROMILLY moved the further con-
sideration of the 'Report of the Privately.' Stealing
.13;11. The Amendments being agreed`to, he moved
that they and the Bill should be engrossed.
Mr. HERktERT expressed his concern at differing
Vk it h the- li.-arned Gentleman; he was sorry he
could ti,:t now agree with hint. With respect to the
frequency of capital punishments they were now
considerably diminished. If we
.take-from the list
ctf those. guilty of crimes punishable by death; the
many who es:.tpe frgrn the want of prosecution, by
ititurcessioo, blibcry, the ingenuity of counsel, and
lastly, .the means of trial by Jury, we shall find ttie
nutnber of executions comparatively ftw. ,He la-
- nlented the many abuses arising from the maxim
drat crimes are punished not for satisfaction,
but to prevent future crimes. The Learned
Gentleman had asserted that the statute of Queen-
. Elizabeth for punishing all persons above the age
of fourteen, capitally associated, to be a barba-
roils law ; the -Hun. Gentleman should have recol—
leCted that in those tittles the posse comitatas was in-
efficient; incapable even of acting against gypsies.
Takh,g this into consideration, it would appear that
- this law was not unjust. Persons of such a.descrin-
two,. a statute of Henry ihe Eighth condemns to
banishment; nd afterwards one of Philip and
Mary enacts a capital punishment; it is in contirma-
tit-sn of these that the law of Queen Elizabeth al-
luded to was made ; have not we ourselves been as
,ievere in the Ads. we have passed in the case of
'the White Boys ? If the laws of England are con-
‘.!einne'd on the 'principle of being enacted on an
.enteigency, the Constitution must be condemn-
ed. He would ask what punishment could be in-
flicted besides death ? Would the Honourable
Gentleman Wish, as in Russia, to introduce the
*nom ? would he agree with the Marquis Beccaria,
and condemn a criminal to perpetual imprisonment,.
adopt the mode of nailing the ears to a pillory, or
sulitsry confinement ? he.believed 'here were many
in the country who would strain eery nerve to pre-
vent solitary; punishment. We cannot lament the.
joss of the lives of il.dividuals, when so many pubtic -'
blessings are obtained by 'it. If- means rwere
rather taken to prevent the extension of contagious .
diseases, ninetc,n lives to one would be saved more
than by the abolition of c:,,pital punishment. He'
deemed the terror of death salutary in pieventing
the lone of opening-letters. Blackstone, he said,
dim.-dpi-c,vd of the alteration of capital Jaws. For
all these reasons, be felt it his duty to negative the
, engrossment.

• :Sir J. NuwpoßT said, that if the Hon. Qemle,
tx)an ar.prOved of the.severify of the law, it was ne-
cessary he should agree iii the deduaion from the
principle; that the (13aSS of mankind were injuteti
by So bloody a system was evident., Many cases
:ettici be adduced to prove that the severity of the
law is not so much feared as the certainty of
it. He recollteied that•some time ago, in Ireland,
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it was felony to Cut:a tree by day or 'night, - He
ficrivainteci with a very respeaable person who
took great pride in the Cultivation of trees, and'on
an incliacittal's being takrzn to the ait, of cutting
One. of them, he Worked hiMself up to carry this
rigbar into effeet. Previous to the assizes lie en-
-410 acotistantagitafion of mind, and when they did
ore on, he declared that on consideration he could
not kitig leis mind Ith carry his rigorou's intent into
•aleti?• -Such cirfUmitatices injure the country, A
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person
gUiley. of -a crime 'Calctilates'not only on his
pnisimlCnr, • but on the-feelings'of Mankind; thif
the .a criminal iT4 allowed to Calculate on his
, - „.. • lA:ices; the 'cett4tttly of punishmentis taken a way.

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EVer7,•Wriiei. co tile Sajt-A S3j-a that the effeets i an oppe.site 'hat-ure. While he admitted that few., ' teade'ont for tbeinterfereike of Pittliairt" a' v
of punislineent result i not front . its severity- but. Oleo:meet of cenairalionii were followed by the eettish- I should therefore se:peel/it the Bill, e •,t,
from its_ certaitrty.• When the !Honourable -Geo:. - moot of deethethe • denied that' the possibility' . that I The SOLICITOR-GFAiERM, cordially reit ;ory.
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tletnan speak.; of trial by Jury, he: shoula re- - suclea puniehment might follow did not deter halal his Hon. Friend, that .the. of . the 19i'i• i i :-,3
ret, ' •
colleCt that. it rather is a . convincing .proof of , crime.' It wat the onafortoneof those-who thought I- Kirk, uliich, though • dormant, woola . e.e. oe
.the assertions of .hias Learnedatariend ; a Jury in- 1 with lifna, that they could not Point out the nes- t hoped. bednetficacious, and which provided lie"to.
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• clinesto mercy, and iLe. only_ way whiehtpreselits it- ',cider wiled) had teen prevented by the fear of ea pi- r, amendmenf of criminals by their conlineern
0. in
self of acquittal is oy perjury; the Legislature should i tal punishment, because that which was prevented 't penitentiary. houses, ought to be pit in for r
not therelote put suith an onus on the mind of the could' never be seen ; but the feel- was-..not the- less i brder ft:l-preterit the contagion of vice, and to rink.iii_
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a ccerlr).f,
people. The lion. Gentleman gOes,to a different iiudobitable. There were cases in which. he con- 1 it pratiticable for a criminal to come out
-part of, the world to find a.peniehment. He. cer.el ceived that the stealing. in a dwellieg-house to the 1 ment an arn'ended suhieS,• and cepable of retuw
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tainly did not read the Atat, or he would irate; seen' value of. 40s. might be.atieeded.with such circum- -1 to an honest course of life. His Holl. and Learned,ew
that on the very face of it his Learnedtlariend pro- stances as not to render the operation, of a law in- 1 Friend, in Whom the dismission originated,
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sides a punishment, --by leaving it in the discretion I flitting capital punishment unfit. In the early part i tended that the present law by holding out the r
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of the Judge ito infliol. He Was well aware that so- .1 of his life lie recolletated several instances in which t nishment of death, . augmented the- evils w
iiir, bit
bony imprilonutent is worse: than death; .yet, he lit had been int-naked on persons who had entered the 1-professed to diMinish. With all his respea_ for bit
believed, it would be of good to the community ;_ houses of cottage:is in the country ;
the
jui ti e. .I Hoot and Learned Friend, he roust saY iirlileete
for then the prisoner Fdten left to commune- with 11:ltere was a great idifaerenee in the consideration i own experience, 'confirmed by the.opinion or "±_.e.
the
his own thOughts, wouid'cothe out reformed; weds , whether- a law in existence should be eepealed, and I, who were the 'beat qualified to judge uPon
nof, as now, instructed in the profligacy of others. " whether, a similar law not in existence should bet je&, was (fleet-11y the 'reverse. -Would 311 Y
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He, -at present, would !lever cease to say, that the - passed. Dino evil resulted from the law,
.adminis- 1 state a casein which a proaecnter had been deterarto
pittiinal Law was defeelive e and hoped his 'Learned i tercdeait then stood, it ought not to be aliered.on a , from proceeding fur feaa of bringing the crirnineole
Friend would continue his career of humanity until a mete.seeculation." In the former part of his pro- I a capital punishment a It might be so : but
belle~
he had established his principlet of capital punish- I fessional life be had ptaaaised in Criminal Courts ; I such a case was stated To him 'be would not beta' f
inept on a rock never to be shaken. - o 1 behad •recently sat as a Judge in a Criminal Court; a its _ existence. 'lf a erosecutor were desirous tio,
Mr, Devtes GIDDY 4aid, that he wool.' offer a i and•he could tot say that on this subject more than ii avoiding the capital Fait of the charge, he li'lci_ob,,
few eiguinetils, in evhich be would neither approve • •anea otheribe -had eobserved that-;prosecutors had I
,thing to do but to,abstain from.stating that the; it of or oppose the mitigation of Capital Laws,. but ! 'been induced to abandon. presecutionet; that wit- bery toat• place in a. dwelling-liouee, or that
rather adopt a middle course. The Learned Gentle- 1 -neases bad been influenced .to give false testimony, ' nenounteu to 20s ip value. It, %VAS an exaggerFtfeet
man in his peeps tam that Nature has fixed her i or that Juries tad been deferred from finding 'vet- ,
therefore to Beet, that the present law led to Pee eta'
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limits on.une stye of the question. He would say 1
.mats ecCording to the truth of the .fl 6. On' this t impunity, It had been said that the laW lnutiii
that many theories are fallationie and human judg-.1 subjea,- which depended very much in .experience,' I witnesses to peure themselves.. Thisevas all
,iortiolaci
menu? cannot be all- per ect o the mitigation of put; I -nen°. were so well qualified to form -an opinion as ginary, and he was sure that ne praCtical rnin '!itite
•nishments lie would leave to the Jury. •Wit h respet . the Judges of the land. He did not fied hoteever, i etate that aehis opinion.. He allowed that Jait'ide.
to.punishnient without express rules, though the de- 1 that any communication had. been had with the might occasionally be inclined toindulge a larl'ef 3
cision would be arbitrary, and odious perhaps as the i
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Judges or. the present 'eubjed ; tier had he reason tot in valuing the-erticleis which were the subject 'oat
expression might seem', still he conceived it to bean 1 believe that their experience would lead. them to prosecution. This was exceesively censurable,
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approximation to peried human jurisprudence:, He I conclusions similar to those of his Honourable and i• what followed ? Perfect impunity'? . By no niieleat
approved.of the necessity of iiertainty in punishment a. Learned- Ft fend. It was no disparagement to either i The criminal was subject to the same punishieble.
he thought, however, it should be united with seve- Lof Ids lion. and Learned" Friends to say, that they , as he would be were the oirttaence made a cliargeiish.
rity ale adverted to! the crime"-0f sheep-stealing; t could hot be so well qualified to 'form an opinion ; felony. To -take away one. description of purni,a,
value
the-. extent of out cotnincins; and the of the law in question es those who _were in "the i ment would not lead to a greater certainty or lb°
value- of sheep, if not punished with severity, the daily habit of administering it. He was adverse' to iinhibit-tem : and he was persuaded that no Ono 13'; I
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:ming was conversant with the administration of cri—h..:
consequences would be most injurious. He agreed the 13:11. • • .in the mitigation of punishment for. breaking open a, Mr.. MORRIS declared, that be had spent a great i law would contend that the terror of capital pun's,ote
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doer, which, if many are connected together, con, part of his professional life in Criminal Courts,. and , merit,' however surely inflicted, did not deter "tot
demos the whole. He would rather wish that the that his experience wee in direta opposition to that i the commission of crime. He instanced savirlit.
persons who immediately effected the crime should lof the Hon. and Learned Gentleman who had just cases in which criminals had_ speculated on ;it
only be punished._ • spoken. He had kii6an Otaily instances in which i crimes being only transportable offences. But
The MASTER of the ROLLS supeorted the ladle the criminal was redeemed from the capital part of seemed time dread of a capital punishmetit was to
convinced that the obje& Which it had in content- the charge by perjury on the part of. witnesses and operate on a prosecutor, on witnesses, on the Jury, oil
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pletion weuld be effetted if suffered to pass into a ' the Jury. • This perjury had come to be considered everybody but the individual tempted to commit t"
heorf •
law. Without enterina into an exatnination of the las a sort of amiable weakness t lie was desirous, crime ! Was that a rational supposition ? The leeett
general 'opinions upon tge sutjetat, be would shortly I hotvever, that such morbid sensibility should be ex- , of his Hon. and Learned_ Friend was directed 'agtaavro
slate. his reasons for thinking it desirable, indeed he ; chided from our Courts, and confined to our Chime 1 the whole system of discretion in criminal law, and
believed that it was agreed on all hands that it was.'i hating Libraries. Tale evils existiog under the pre- if adopted in one case must be adopted in the readle
so, the only question which arose- was; whether .if i sent law, were of magnitude sufficient to induce the He admitted that it would be very beautiful if P,
any other punishment- • was marked, out instead of 1 House to adopt the proposition of his. Honourable law cotild be so contrived, 'as that a precise pun's`'.i
death for the crime, it would have the oiled of de -• I and Learned Ft-lend. It was true that he had not , meat should be proposed for. every individual (i',,f
taring persons from the commission of it. When 1 had any cominunication On the subjed with those I fence, without leaving any thing to the discretioa ~i
any alteratiOn in the laws of the• land was proposed I.venerable charatlers presiding de . our ,Ceiminal i those by whom the law was administered. But t
Courts,. brit he had always
.seen them exercise this-!-though this would 'be very beautiful, it would..
to be made, itibecame the-House to took into them, I
and see vidietber they weteeititalive in their operaa 1, part atheir authority with the most painful anxie,ty, ',wholly inapratticable. All that cotild lie, ditiwl,s
lion. Now what bad the Learned Gentleman who' ' and if he might be allowed to comet-lure on the sub- 1-peattiee 'was to have a generic description 'of cridael 0 ,
brought in this Bill said upon this head ? Why, he - i jekt, it was a, power which the Judges would
.much .1 The peculiar circumstances of aggravation ott td hark stated, that in many cases they were not opt- I ratherourrender than maintain. e ,• . 1 one "hand, and of extenua:ion eu the other, L'f
: -Mr. F43ANKLAND contended, that if the• Judges which every individual case was marked, aa tl'%
rative; ,for, that where the crime was punishable I
were of the opinion ascribed to them by the Hon. i could not be foreseen, could not.be., embodied t ,
with death, the pueishMent, in very few instances !
had been carried into etre& The inference which .! and Learned' Gent. they would hiive declared it, 'the law. Let any one try his hand at such a pari!'
he should draw frOrn that circerustatiae was, that i but the -reverse was, the feet. The •supporters of. eularization, acid he would' soon find the imPoasieb':
either the law, or the prattice el it, , was wrong.--1 the present Bill maintained; that the punishments : lity of it: Even could it. be eecomplished, 90 13___'; -
ejusdeoc • geye.ris. This be denied, t from insuring a certainty of punishment, it wtitZ"
Whicliever•-was the. case, the truth wait that it had oaght to be,
been contended, the laws were net efficacious in i Such a -priocipal•wesoontrary to all practice and ex- give the criminal the greatest oppot tut-Nes for ecit
1 perience. He deniedialso that a capital puriishlttellt cape, both in the 'mode in which the indittioleP
prevenett .' tke Clinic. The leffittion of death be-
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log abstained from,- he • apprehended" thetthe joit • oughtato 'be held out in terrorens• For instance, in must necessarily be drawh up, an in the hesitant)a
conclusion. to be drawn was, that the prat:lice is the tnilital a code of the conntry, desertion, was which Juries would entertain in consequence e'
it ' decreed to. be punished with (teeth, tt or other ' Under all the circumstances, lie thought the prae •
right; because, if the lats.- iii itself was wroag,
would mos( assuredly .have been .noticed as
,such in punishment !" hot' one deserter, - however, in , sent system better than that proposed to be sulatfm
some way orothar. If the practice - then was not 20Q,900,
.was aCtueily peolshed with death. Did it oiled. • .
blamed, and no fault had been found with the Judges- tthence follow that the tear of the punishment of I Mr. PANNING conceived the whole system of oar
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or the Kingia advisers, for not en:orcing, time lawi it death did not
_deter from. desertion ? If, in the laws. to arise from cettain circurnstences, willcita -
clearly
_sliewed. that the public op noun was, that course of his walks, he had, for twenty . succestive from time to time, had pressed upon the native Pa
years, seen in the oairldoia q a house a blundetbuss i the Legislature, and seemed to render the eneCimerit'
tl:e law is too Scvere, and is not _avhipted to time of-
fence. - There seemed indeed to be a sort of tint- And a• watchman's rattle ; af, at time expiration of si of such laws necessary. If eny one had found its
versa! confederacy in the people to abrogate the law. that tim, he had gone in and askeil the owner of O Way into the code, adtnitting too severe a puoish'
1 lain some instances prosecutors did not like to go on to that mansion how many persons 'be had shot with [merit for a critue, which, from its frequency at OP
conviaion, because of the penally to the Offender. hislblunderbuts, and how often -he had sprung his i time the' AIE was passed, might seem to call lb;
1 Juries would in other cases exempt the offeoder. rattle.; ,if he bad been answered that the trigger of 1 such severity, it did not follow
that such a law should
from the capital punishment, so that it might not the one had never been pulled, and that the not a ed •in force to the end of time,.or at pea,
ibe left in the breast of the Judge to execute it; nay._ of tee other had never been heard, Would-it thence : rodswhen the crime had ceased to be frequent.
even the Judges and the King's advisers were of the ' follow that their public exhibition had not deterred a the Hen:, Gentleman had proposed a Committee 10
same opinion, and did not think it advisable to 'tie from the commission of burglary ? He deprecated t revise the whole system-Of:our Criminal Laws, he
filet a punishment which time law had expressly de- ;
any attempt to alter that systeM udder which, as he : should then have epproved of the observation of Ida
fined. With respect to the law then being effectual, i conceived, -British freedoni had flourished. In other i Hon. and Learned Friend (the Solicitor-General) '
offenders were prosecoted, and Juries' were induced' li.coentrics the hand was watched while it was writ- i and have thought that it would not be well thus to
to accent in many instances, not that they did not I ing ; the att . was checked before it ripened into I risk shaking the whole aystem,of our laws lt, was
think the offender guilty, but because they thought : crime. But. such a sydem was far from desirable. clear that a discretionary power must still continue
the offence. was to be too severely punished %snit It would injure the manly'spirit of the British cha-' to.be vetted in the Judges, and the question before
death. The law, therefore, was- not good which , ratiter, to prevent any one from doing that Whit4ll he : the House was notwilether sh extinguish-
left to the discretion of Juries to give a verdia coti- the
did at his peril. Where there was little preventive that power; but hoe' far ity miould eht . be. proper
1 -trary to their oaths, or as Blaekstoue very ernphati- : justice there must be much penal. He-did not wish ;to limit its range. No man could . say it would.
pally termed such decision which placed Juries in lb see the adions of Englishmen too muth controul- 'be extinguishing the, power to impote limits to its
: the situation of " canernitting pious perjuries;" be; ed. He did not With. to see, as he had seen on Me range. The whole amount of the change went to
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i cause it was ad verse to their. feelings of juStice.-- i Continent, .an armed matt steed In a ball-room, and rake from them the power. of dispenting life or
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4 Qught'the law to stand which men could. not ton- . . tell a dancer - that he must not turn his partner sue!' . death, and to that he could see on objection. Whe-
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'form to, without sacrificing their feelitigs'• or their or such lay.
Nothing could} in his opinion, tend ther or not the existence of the punisonient of h
, consciences ? It might be Said, that it would be more to injure the charaderiSitc freedom, and
.the • caused mercy, it couidnot prevent the comniissdeat on , .
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wrong to deprive the'Crowti il the power of par- • eonsequerit happipesaol this country, morethan the . of the cm ithe. The epinions of the vars higli Law
(lolling. Without wishing to deprive the Crown of intr(Cduatien of a system by which the penal caie Autherities appeared to ie paired, lie foulghtthere-
that potver, it was quite another thing to endeavour would be weakened. The scverity'ot that code was ' fore be Juetitied in forming has own. His on.
i• by indirect meens to lessen that power, for it was" the price we paid. for our. liberties. ~! and Letiraed friend (the Solicitor-General) ha&
never tetencied thatolue King sheet(' !ewe the power - Mr. WILB.ERFoRCE could not conceive that our said, it wil'‘ strange that the seterity of the punish-
of administering the lask's generally, either under the - liberties could be infriogad,' or our happiness di- : Meet should pri,duce, so greti aii effed on all but
advice of the Judges, hale Secretaries of State, or 7minishecl by a miligation•of tit* Penal code.- TWo those on whom it was' to be infiicteo. The ill-re-
any other person whatsoever. In answer to those. -• hundred years age that penal code was much more gulated mind of a hardened seiner, inflarned by the
who objeded to ariy.general innottation of the laws, rigidly, enforced: .Since that period the number of prospect of gain,would, from the: A' in ti cquency of the
he would reply, that if laws were, from the change . capital pueisinuents had gradually decreased, and 'inflicting of the punishment detiotinced by tt.e law,
of circumstances and opinions, fallen into disuse, .yet our liberties had been more generally diffused-- . more.readily braveethe dangar thus iticun'ed than' a .
would it rot be wiser policy to make new laws more more deeply founded, and more thoroeghly under- ; well-regulated mind would risk the possibility of
confoiroable to the times? . The. discretion which stood. The question before the House was, whe- : condemning a tnan to death unjustly. It had been
was to be left in the Judge waenot that of life and ther the punishment of death ought lo be annexed said that though die capital puiiisbiocrit was seldom
death, but as to the,deert ee of pemisliment to be in.' to 'die crimes under discussion ? int his opinion it inflicted on such
offenders,- nay diti ' not pe
flitted, and when that punishment was known the , ought not. Be thought that the eyes of the coup- i trantportation and 'other ettnishments., Thisesca wal
sarne'reptignance in parties to prosecute might not I try were gradually opening to the defeEts of our cri- true, after convitition the pariuts did not wholly
exist.. Be would'agree to the Bill of his Hon. and 1 urinal law.; and, 'he trusted, that by the.adopt iota escape ; buf in t two previous eitotet there was the
Learned Friend, because it was an experiment which iof the • confinement of criminals in penitentiary . chanese•d'f death or of opal to-v. 1114. It would be. . •
he thought might be • safely tried, and which in his houses, crimes would be more frequently prevented, desirable to remove front Juries any temptationeo
bumble opinion would prove efficacious. • and criminals rendered loss injurious" to seciety.— peijury, however benevolent their motives nit ht
The Aoroesiee-GeNeeee slid, that without en• , With respect to the comparison of the Hon. 'Gen- -be ; and it wotlid iv -e better ttOt to persevere it a .
teripg at large into the consideration of the general tiernan who had preceded_ him, he shooed tuertay syeem affording such faciliiles for escape, but doing .
system upon which his Honourable and Learned , saya that if.the owner oldie house which that Hint. away the Severer punistuneett increase the prebae
Friend opposite proceeded, be would confine hint- 1 Gentleman badimagined, had fired his blunderbuss bility of tie offenders beitig.visited by the lesser. In
hefselfeo some observations on the Bill immediately 1 1872 times, and had only hit once, be would not' aeling thus they would rut, no risk ef shakiog tee .
ore the House. It bad been argued that the lire- have excited much alarm in his neighbourhood.— whole s} stem. No dread of innovation could be
sent law preventeCtotfend,rs iron being brought to I Such was the proportion between those; who, ac- felt, equal to drat which miitht have been eutettain-
punishmenee -that it deterred prosecutors, that it cording to the existing law, had. rendered them- :ed when the law was Made, after it had.. b '
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bittsieti tviteeasee, and that it influenced Juries. .
.4,s telvee -liable to tepeel ppnishment, and ttedse Who that in the course Of 4 coD wry: the Crime. and the
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