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thooght better to.inteOdtice into a Separate Bill.
lie trusted no one would suppose that any Mem,
ber connected with the Bill would be so disin-
genuous as to yield the pOints of concession with-
out being careful of the proper security.----.
(Hear.)—With respect to the benefits, they
might by many be thought very acceptable, while
others might not think them worth the accep.4
tan ce ; but
„he .had every reason to believe, that 7
the smallest conuession, even the permitting a
Roman Catholic Otrritter to wear a silk gown,:
would be accepted. Ile had formed the mea-
sures of concession on the one hand, and security
on the other, into two Bills, because he thought
that course the most conciliatory. rihere was but
one topic more upon which he should touch. He
alluded to the measure of which notice had
been given by an Honourable Friend, respect.: •
ing the support ofthe Roman Catholic Clergy.—
He should not consent to the measure, -and 1w
trusted that his Hon. Friend, cm reflection, would
be induced not to press it. At a foture sealon„_
such a measure would be kindly received by :the
Catholic Clergy, but at present It must be consi-
dered as premature. The Catholic Clergy could
not enter into any stipulation of this description,.
until the rights of their flocks Fad been gi'rea.
them; lest they (the Clergy) should be exposed
to unworthy imputations. No person he thoup,bt
was competent to bring forward such a Inearare
unless he were armed with di assent of Govere-
went ; but at a proper time, and with that asneW, •
he had no doubt any such measure would be
Ceived by the Roman Catholic Clergy w 7.111
thankfulness. Having now'gone through the va-.
rious topiCs -which this subject suggested tt.
him, he solemnly called upon the Legislattve
to put an end to the present question. The
laws in force against the Catholics admittad
of some apology at the time of their enact-
ment, and various unfortunate - circumstances
had prevented their repeal. Elizabeth was
surrounded by powerful foreign enemies, and iii
the subsequent reigns it generally happeneti•
that when the Catholics were warmly attached
to the Constitution the Sovereigns were not. Et
was a hardship that Popery, the present disabili-
ty, had been introduced into Ireland by
land ; for the conquest of the former necessarilr
introduced the Religion of the. latter ; and Ito
admitted that it had been sown in a most • flour- •
iihing soil. The enjoyment of . Civil Liberty
had enabled us to see the light, and when upon
conviction we dislodged Popery from our own
country, we attempted to dislodge it in I re-
land, without giving the Irish those rights wbielt
had enabled us to discover the truth.--(ilear,•
hear, hear !)—The Roman Catholics had gem-
rally been patient and tranquil under thuir
suflerings..—(Cheers.)—He had a right to 51Y.
that they had generally been tranquil ; for it
was notorious that the Rebellion of 1798 had
been brought about by Protestants, and conduct-
ed by Protestant leaders. In conclusion, he
trusted the House would not deprive themselves
of the satisfaction, or the Throne the enjoyment,
of receiving the brightest and most acceptable.
tribute which could be given by the honest bog
som—the gratitude of the Raman Catholics ;
gratitude which would stimulate them tiy an 407
creased affection for their fellow FAbjvets;
an attachment to the Constituth-A, iii support 4",
which they would sacrifice ;heir property ant
their blood.—(Loud and continued cheers.)
On theque,§tion being put from the Chair,
Sir W.-SCOTT said, the Bill .which his Right
Honourable Friend had introduced had bee°
printed, and in circulation for a fortnight, s°
that the minds of "%leathers must have been made
up, and. they wer.:,
sion upon •fr pared to co.alk;- 1.0 a `discus_.;
. But now his Right Hon. Frio!!
hf.... 1 Introduced a number of alterations, of suet.
variety and extent, that he appealed to an)'
Member who had heard the statement, whether
he could fully understand the bearing of it, and
which at any rate they had had no opportunity
of considering. He now appealed with confidence
to the House on the question, whether they could
know in what state the Bill would he after tiles°
alterations had been made ? He therefore sub-
mitted to his Right Hon. Friend's own candour
Ohether some method• should not be taken
put the House la possession of The alteratiell:
proposed before the discussion. The alteratioa
were of that magnitude that they amounted to,;
declaration that the Bill in its present state could
not be supported.—(Hear, hear !)--4n that case,
what course was to be taken ?, Were they t°
•
proceed to the discussion of 'a Bill which
I leol
been abandoned. This would be to ,waste tho
time of the House. He shoald therefore 01" be •
obliged to his 'Right. Honourable Friend-
r.
Plunkett) if he would submit any course ".
hictr
could put them iu_possession of the Bill :1.'""

be proposed.
Mr. PLUNKETT said, he was not sensible tlutt
he had proposed any alteration • in. the princ-iPt`4'
of the Bill.--(Hea4D—He might have reserved
himself to the Committee to propose his amend-
ments, but he thought it fair and candid to ar
prize the House of what he intended to do. lie
was not aware that there was• any doinplexity
his proposed amendment. The House W 35 ,
crowded, and his voice might not, have been dis"
tinct ; but there certainly was, in the alterations
of which he had given notice, no problem which
presented a difficulty' so difficult, that a mind
very inferior to his flight Hon. Friend's might.
not solve.—(A laugh.)
The question was put, 44 That this Bill be
noz
rr! RANK
adaseEci said,ondtrz"Mwas
of the Bill which they were now called urn 01*
read a second time would carry many evc“.•
those who were willing-to Make some con,ciers,,,-,-ly
subjectv,suni-
versal rti;ht
to the Catholics further than they would
every
n aol
offigcue s— toa afraid the priociPl:)
go, as it asserted the right of admission of eve'?
Ite
(Mr. Bankes) stood on this ground, that no State
t
should admit into share of the Government
persons who, to be consistent with themselves,
must desire the destruction cif a considerable
part of that Government. Nov the
,Roman Ca-
tholics,/of. whom individually and generally tic
wished to speak with the greatest respect, must
lirandiviecraslatiloscutirrirt;eg:f
desire the destruction of a great part of the Go-
vernment; he meant the Protestant Church.—