The Sun.
London, England, 1845-05-06 00:00:00

SCOTCH BANKS,

Mr. FOX MAULE said that the first notice on the psper
was that fee the second reading of the Banking Scotland Bill.
He wished to know (as we understood) whether it was the in-
tendon of the Right Hon. Baronet to take the discussion on the
Bill before the holidays?
Sir ROBERT PEEL said he hoped there would be no ob-
jection to tyke the discussion before the holidays, and he
hoped that the House would allow the second reading, with
the understanding that the discussion should take place upon
the question going into Committee.
POOR-LAW (SCOTLAND).
Mr. F. MAULE said, that with respect to another Scotch
Bill, he wished to ask the Right Hon. Gentleman the Lord
Advocate as to his intentions? The House would recollect
that it was understood that every parish and county in Scot-
land should have an opportunity of considering this Bill before
it would be passed. A great meeting had taken place, at
which a committee had been appointed to examine the whole
sullject. The report of that committee was in preparation, but
bad not been published. He wished to know whether 'the
Lord Advocate would delay the Bill until the result of the in-
.leiry was known ?
The LORI) ADVOCATE was understood to say that on
Wednesday he would six the day for the second reading.
Mr. 11-OCUE wished to know from the R:ght Hon. Baronet
at the head of her Majesty's Government, when it was his in-
tention to bring forward the Irish Municipal Corporation and
Psegistration Bilk and what the objects of those Bills were ?
Sir R. PEEL said that it was the desire of her Majesty's
Government that the business connected with Ireland
shouts{ undergo very full consideration during this session.
lie had already expressed his desire to state the
eameral outline of the measures which the Government pro•
pesed with regard to academical matters. He was pressed
very strongly the other night by the Hon. Member for Kerry,
as to any measures which he might intend to introduce with re-
,,,eet to landed property in Ireland ; but he was aware that
the other House of Parliament would bring forward a measure
tiring this session with reference to that subject. There were
other measures with regard to Ireland which were also to he
disposed of ; hut there were no advantages to be obtained by
placing. several measures on the table of the House. It would
I.' better to proceed with those which were mostiressing. Ile
thought that the principles of the measure which the Hon.
Member referred to, would have the effect of extending the
fianchise in Ireland, and making it equal to that enjoyed in
England.
Mr. HUME wished to ask the Secretary for the Home
Department a question with respect to a man who was lately
brought before a magistrate in the parish to which he belonged
fur an assault, end though it was a bailable offence, bail to any
amount was refused. It had created a very strong feeling in
his parish ; and he wished to know if the Right Hun. Gentle-
man had instituted any inquiry respecting it ?
Sir J. GRAHAM said that as yet he knew nothing of the
ease, except what he read in the public papers. He was to
have a deputation from Marylebone to-morrow, when the
matter would be brought officially before him, and it would be
then his duty to institute an inquiry.
Sir R. PEEL wished to say that there was another measure
in contemplation, with respect to Ireland, relating to the
banking establishment in that country, which would be brought
before the House this session.
Mr. MACLEAN said that to-morrow he would put a
question to the Right Hon. Baronet, relating to any com-
munication that may haue been made between the Tuilleries
and St. James's, connected with the right of search question ;
and also a question as to that part of the Emancipation Act
which related to the Jesuits.
Mr. ROSS wished to put a question to the Hon. Member
for Montrose. He wished to know whether it was his inters-
tints to bring on his motion with respect to Sir Henry Pottinger
to-morrow night?
Mr. HUME said that when he came down to the House that
was his intention, but he was compelled to postpone it on find-
ing that many Members who would support it would necessarily
be absent on that evening.
Mr. ESCOTT gave notice that it was his intention to call
the House over on Thursday, the 22d inst.
THE GREAT WESTERN RAILWAY—IRELAND.

Mr. WARBURTON said that a matter of much importance
occurred during the business of the day, relating to the Great
Western Railway, Ireland, respecting which a motion was
made by his Hon. Friend the Member for Roscommon to the
effect that this Bill be allowed to proceed. The motion was
under discussion, and the Chairman and several Members of the
Standing Orders Committee spoke on the merits of the motion.
It was stated that in 300 cases it was found that the standing
orders had not been complied with, and that out of these 300
cases, there were thirty-four cases of very great importance.
Other Gentlemen spoke in favour of the motion of the Hon.
Gentleman the Member for Roscommon, and stated that it
was a matter of the deepest importance that this Bill should be
proceeded with, in spite of its non-compliance with the stand-
ing orders. The House came to a vote, and the motion was
carried by a majority of eighty or ninety. It was strange that
a Member of the Government, and that Member the Secretary
for Ireland, spoke in favour of that motion, and voted for it.
Private applications had been made to himself (Mr. Warburton)
to support motions for throwing over the reports
of the Standing Order Committee, and particularly in the
case of the Birkenhead and Manchester Railway,
when all parties admitted that it was only in one or two cases
where the standing orders of the Committees had not been
complied With. Many desired that the Bill should be proceeded
with, and to east out the report, but he would not be a party
to the upsetting of a report of the Standing Orders Com-
mittee, and it was his opinion that the House should not in-
dulge in the practice of throwing out such reports, for in
many cases the question would not be decided on the merits.
He now rose to ask the Right lion. Baronet the course that
he now would recommend after such a precedent bad been set
to lion. Gentlemen. He now would ask him what course he
would recommend the house to pursue, in respect to the sup-
porting or not supporting the recommendation of the Standing
I hders Committee. If they allowed the Bill in this instance
to proceed, great injury would be done to the Birkenhead and
Manchester Railway Bill.
Sir ROBERT PEEL wished to state to the Hon. Gen-
tleman, es an exemplification of his own opinion, that a gen-
tleman principally interested in this matter came to him ( Sir
it. Peel), soliciting his interference to throw out the standing
orders,t but he told him that he thought that the report of the
a ieling Orders Committee was a judicious one, and made
interfere
hivrfeet purity of intention, and he positively declined to
in upsetting it The Vice President of the Board
of Trade had an interview -
with him that morning when he
(the Vice-President) said that although it was a private_rnea-
sure, it bad been usual for one Member of the Board of Trade
to vote in favour of the opinion of the House, and to come to
give his voice and v o tei fvouroof the decision of the Standing
tt
Orders Committee. had
nconnexion at all with th
and it was, therefore, entirely dependant upon his own vie Bill,
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the merits of the case.
Mr. LABOIJCHERE said that he objected to the Secre-
tary for Ireland coming down there to vote in that capacity.
Ile hoped the Secretary for Ireland would not m arose that he
was taking that opportunity of attacking
hi
course as
but
ished to
he
See him using all fair means of gaining popTinloarrit
should say that he never recollected such a ne
What he objected to on this particular occasion was, attatthilies.
as Secretary for Ireland took a particular course with regard
to a private Bill, which he not only not supported, but resisted
the sense of the Government as expressed by the Chancellor of
the Duchy of Lancaster. The decision was a most unfortunate
one, and he quite agreed with what had been said by his Hon.
Friend (Mr. Warburton). He (Mr. Labouchere) had been
asked by some of his Irish friends to support their views, but
lie told them that unless the Chairman of the Committee had
intimated to him that there were particular reasons which
should induce them to deal with this Bill in a different way
from the others, he would not support the motion which re-
sisted the repact of ihr Standing Orders Committee.
Mr. OSBORNE said that Hon. Gentlemen were not aware
that in coming before the Standing Orders Commtttee there were
many more difficulties attending the tenure of land in Ireland,
and in serving notice on middlemen there than in England.
He thought that his Hon. Friend ( Sir T. Fremantle)
exercised a sound discretion. Hon. Gentlemen who were not
acquainted with Ireland, and who belonged to the Standing
Orders Committee, were not aware of those difficulties. If
the standing orders were to be complied with, it would be im-
poslible to ennstruct a railway in Ireland.
Ate, ESCOTT.said that he recollected that the very first
words whiche e arY
'Vet hinduce
y Ireland used with respect to
this (pectic:lU were theses that he did not svis to
any man tj the House to vote in favour of the motion