The Sun.
London, England, 1861-07-01 00:00:00

PETITIONS.

Some petitions were presented praying for the opening
of the British Museum and other national institutions on
Sunday, and for the restoration of the Galway subsidy.

FACTION FIGHTING IN IRELAND.

Mr. SC ULLY asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland if
his attention had been called to the published address of
the chairman of the county of Tipperary, Mr. Sergeant
Howley, Q.C., to the grand jury at the recent quarter ses-
sions of Cashel, with reference to a document directing that
cases of faction fighting shall no longer be tried at the guar.
ter sessions, but sent to the assizes ; and, would the Chief
Secretary state the nature of that document and the grounds
for it ?

Mr. ROEBUCK considered that the hon. and learned
member was out of order for asking for this explanation.
The SPEAKER said that the hon. and learned member
was in order, and therefore he could not interfere.

Mr. CARD-WELL said that the object of the document
was not to offer any affront to magistrates of the quarter
sessions, but mere.y to secure a selection of the parties
who were to try those cases from a more extended area,
and therefore inspiring more confidence in the results of
trials of this character.
THE DERRYVEAGH EVICTIONS.

Mr. SCULLY asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland if
he intended to propose any inquiry, either through a royal
commission or select committee of the House of Commons,
into the recent evictions from the lands of Derryveagh, in
the county of Donegal, or as to the statements published
by Mr. J. G. Adair, J.P., attributing a guilty knowledge
of murder and other crimes to the evicted inhabitants ; also
as to the several allegations made in Parliament on Mon-
day, the 24th day of June, that Ribbonism existed in that
district ; or, if indisposed to originate an inquiry, would the
Chief Secretary be prepared, on the part of the Govern-
ment, to support or sanction a motion for an inquiry pro-
posed by an independent member.
Mr. CARDWELL said it was not intended to propose a
committee on the subject.
ALLEGED NEGLECT OF IRISH AFFAIRS.

Mr. SCULLY gave notice that to-morrow he would ask
the First Lord of the Treasury whether the hon. member
for Clonmel offered to resign his position as one of the Lords
Commissioners of her Majesty's Treasury, upon the ground
that Irish interests had been disregarded by the present
Administration, and has such offer been finally accepted ;
and, if so, has the vacancy so created been filled up, and is
it intended to fill it, and when ?
SALVAGE OF VESSELS.
Sir H. STRACEY asked the President of the Board of
Trade if it was his intention to introduce a bill to remedy
the defects in the law relating to owners and salvors of
vessels.

Mr. M. GIBSON said that some portions of the defects
in the law had been remedied already by the provisions of
the Admiralty Court Act, and the provisions of the Mer-
chant Shipping act were considerably extended. The law
as it stood at present remedied the defects of the law as re-
garded British vessels, but it was necessary that, in or der
to extend it to foreign vessels, that there should be an in-
ternational arrangement.
Sir H. STRACEY inquired whether the right hon.
gentleman would support a hill on this subject if he under-
took to introduce such a measure.
Mr. M. GIBSON said he could not undertake to make
such a promise without seeing the bill of the hon. baronet.
PUBLIC INCOME AND EXPENDITURE.
Sir S. NORTHCOTE moved for a return of the total
income of each year from 1829 to 1860-1 inclusive as esti-
mated in the Budget, and of the actual income received ;
the total expenditure so estimated and the actual expendi-
ture; the surplus or deficiency so estimated and the actual
surplus or deficiency; the Exchequer balance at the com-
mencement of each year and the increase or the decrease of
that balance at the close of the year; the balance of money
raised by the creation of debt or of money applied to the
reduction of debt; and the excess of advances or repay-
ments ; together with the date of each budget.—Agreed to.

THE LUNACY LAW IN SCOTLAND.
Mr. LESLIE asked the Lord Advocate whether he in-
tended to introduce, during the present session, a bill to
amend the Lunacy Act in Scotland?

APPROPRIATION OF SEATS (SUDBURY AND
ST. ALBANS) BILL.
On the motion for the consideration of this bill as
amended,

Mr. T. DUNCOMBE contended that the bill had been
so mutilated that it should be rejected, and that it was quite
unprecedented to bring a bill which was really a new mea-
sure. He considered the metropolitan constituencies had
rot been properly treated, and that the claims of Middlesex,
Chelsea, and Kensington had been overlooked in a
most shameful manner, considering the intelligence
and importance of these districts. The bill pro-
posed to give the four additional members to the
West Riding of Yorkshire, and yet Wakefield, one of the
disfranchised boroughs, was situate in that Riding. (Hoar,
hear.) In the whole of his Parliamentary experience he
was not aware of such a departure from Parliamentary
practice as was the case in reference to this bill, for at this
stage there were six new clauses introduced, and between
20 and 30 amendments made. He called on the house to
reject the bill, and moved, as an amendment, that it should
be considered that day three months.
Mr. SCULLY seconded the amendment.
Mr. CONINGHAM also opposed the motion.
row
_Mr. HADFIELD supported the motion, and d
atten-
tion to the wealth and population of the West
which he contended fully entitled it to the additional p
Riding,
rere!
sentative.
Lord J. RUSSALL said that there hill. Tandebmeeeneenuorecaesse
made out for the rejection of the 1?
originally introduced proposedgive an additional mem-
ber to the West Riding, one to to
South Lancashire, one to
Birkenhead, and ono member to Chelsea and Kensington.
Tke three first propositions only received the sanction of
the committee, for the proposal to give an addi-
tional member to either Middlesex or Chelsea and
Kensington was rejected. He thought that the original
proposition of the Government was the more pre-
ferable. Tho question, however, had been decided by the
sense of the house, and there was no tenable argument
azainst giving the additional representative to the West
Riding, merely from the fact that it happened to contain
within it the corrupt borough of Wakefield.
Lord FERMOY supported the amendment, and con-
tended that the metropolis had been ti eated in a very
unjust manner in the distribution of these seats. Ile con-
sidered the bill a very important measure, and he argued
that the Government were acting in an unssemly manner
in respect to the subject of reform by not going to the
country.
The house divided, and the numbers were—.
For the consideration of bill as amended 204
Against it
28
Majority
Mr. STIRLING then moved the following amendment :
—That from and after the Ist day of November,
1861, the Universities of St, Andrew's, Glasgow, Aber-

deen, and Edinburgh shall be entitled collectively to return
one member to serve in Parliament. The hon. member
moved other amendments also, the effect of which was to
carry out in detail the preceding alterations which he pro-
posed. He called attention to tke great importance of these
universities which had been of the greatest advantage not
only to Scotland, but to this country also, for they
had provided first class eduei\tion without any
restriction on sectarian grounds, a desideratum which had
only recently been supplied iu England. He expatiated on
the extent and intelligence of the members composing the
Scotch Universities, and said that if institutions were per-
mitted to have a voice in the legislature that the represen-
tatives would not be found unworthy to take their place by
the side of the representatives for the English Universities
Sir G. C. LEWIS said that the motion of the hon.
gentleman was in fact calling on the house to rescind
a resolution to which they had co me in com-
mittee after considerable:discussion, and after a large
majority had expressed their opinion. He argued
that from the constitution of Scotch univeraities"
up to a recent period they were not to be placed in the
same position as the English and Irish universities. In
the Reform Bill of 1832 there was no proposition to enfran-
chise the universities, and although a great improvement
hail lately taken place in their constitution, by which
graduation was necessary, still he did , not think the time
bad arrived to give them a superior claim to the seats to be
disposed of as compared with the West Riding and South
Lancashire.
Mr. C. BRUCE supported the amendments.

[LEFT SPEAKING.]

TATTERSAL LS'-(T1118 EVENING).

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JULY STAKES.
3to 1 agst Tolurno (taken)
3to 1 agst Elector (taken)
7to 1 agst Sir W. Armstrong (taken)
CUMBERLAND ?LATE.
2to 1 agst Joey Jones (taken)
4to 1 agst Prince of Denmark (taken)

GOODWOOD STAKES.
9to 1 agst Starke (taken)
9to 1 agst Schism (taken)
100 to 6 agst Brownie (taken)

GOODWCOD CUP.
100 to 30 agst Optimist (taken)
4to 1 agst Mons Etoile (taken)
10 to 1 agst Wizard (taken)
100 to 8 agst Ben Webster (taken)
15 to 1 agst Dulcibella (taken)
20 to 1 agst Starke (taken)
ST. LEGER.
9to 4 agst Kettledrum (offered)
THE DERBY.
17 to 1 agst Ace of Clubs (taken)
30 to 1 agst Laughing Stock (taken)
1000 to 25 agst Laeydes (taken)
1000 to 25 agst Patriot (taken)
2000 to 40 agst Sir W. Armstrong (taken)
1000 to 20 agst Lord Burleigh (taken)
1000 to 20 agst King of St. Michael (taken)
1000 to 15 agst Earl of Surrey (taken)

SALE OF SHIPS AT LIVERPOOL.

Messrs. Cunard, Wilson, and Co., of Liverpool,
have issued the following half-yearly circular :
" When we issued our circular of the 31st of De-
cember last the market for the sale of ships was
active, and several superior new vessels had just
been sold at improved prices. In the first three
months of this year these prices were maintained,
but the unfortunate outbreak of civil war in
America led to anticipations that a large number
of United States vessels would be forced upon the
market; several were certainly offered for sale,
but the prices put upon them were generally too
high to enable us to effect many sales. In the
early part of the year some vessels arrived with
powers of sale at very low limits, and these were
disposed of; but the vessels that have recently
changed hands have realised better prices. The
tonnage of the United States of America in 1845
was 2,476,765 tons, while in 1857 it amounted to
4,960,137 tons. In 12 years, therefore, it was more
than doubled, and it seems impossible to compre-
hend how this enormous increase could have found
profitable employment. At any rate it must, to
some extent, have supplanted the flags of other
nations, and the largest part has probably been
absorbed in British ports. There is, therefore,
every probability that in the present interrupted
state of the American trade more United States
vessels may be offered for sale, but we do not fear
that these will have any effect in reducing the value
of the new colonial tonnage, expected in August and
September. United States vessels are generally
well-built, but for some trades they do not com-
mand a preference, and many shipowners prefer
buying vessels from our own colonies. Connected
with this, we have pleasure in noticing that the
model and style of finish of the Quebec ships of last
season were much better than those of preceding
years, and we are advised that those of this year's
build will show still further improvement. Our
market is now nearly clear of colonial-built tonnage,
there being only nine vessels of 5,188 tons unsold,
and British-built vessels continue to be inquired
for. We are offering for sale a few very superior
colonial ships launche since this day of last year,
at prices varying from £7 10s. to £8 10s. per ton-,
according to finish and outfit ; but some new vessels
of good material, though rougher in workmanship
and finish, and built in the northern parts of New
Brunswick, can be purchased at considerably lower
prices. Iron vessels, of 12 years' class, with East
India outfit, can be built at from £l5 to £l7 per
ton, and we especially note several inquiries for
iron vessels some years old, and of from 400 to 1,000
tons register. High-classed British timber-built
vessels, for the finer East India, China, and West
Coast trades, will not, we believe, at present in-
crease in value. It appears that exporters are not
shipping largely, and that the general low outward
freights must, to some extent, operate against an
investment in this description of British tonnage.
We regret to have to announce the loss of over
900 vessels, but we believe that up to this date
it will not be greatly increased, Our recent ad-
vices from the North American colonies inform
us that the amount of tonnage which will be
launched for sale this year, subsequent to this
date, will not exceed 51,000 tons ; of this, 22,000
tons may be expected from Canada ; 17,000 tons
from St. John, New Brunswick, and neighbour-
hood ; 7,500 tons from the northern ports of New
Brunswick •, and about 4,500 tons from Nova Scotia
and Prince Edward Island. Of last year's new sail-
ing vessels, 647 of the tonnage of 105,554 were built
in the British possessions, and registered in Great
Britain ; while 686 timber-built vessels, of the ton-
nage of 112,097 tons, and 32 iron vessels, of the
tonnage of 13,584 tons, were built and registered in
the United Kingdom. The total amount of ton-
nage registered as British vessels appears to increase
each year, and we again notice that the tonnage of
steam increaes more than that of sailing vessels.
The total of the former registered at the 31st Dec.,
1859, was 389,515 tons, and in 1860, 454,327 tons,
being an increase for the year of 16 2.3d5. per-cent,
while that of sailing vessels was, in 1859, 3,879,592
tons ; and in 1860, 4,204,360 tons, being an increase
of 81,- per cent. over the aggregate tonnage of 1859."