The Sun.
London, England, 1861-10-02 00:00:00

ENGLAND AND THE ZOLLVEREIN.

At a meeting of the Council of the Bradford
Chamber of Commerce, held on Monday afternoon
last, Mr. Alderman Brown in the chair, the Secre-
tary read the following memorial, addressed to
Lord John Russell, and the reply thereto received
from the Foreign-office:—

" To the Right lion. John Earl Russell, her Majes-
ty's Principal Secretary of State for Foreign
Affairs.
" The Memorial of theßradford Chamber of Com-
merce, showeth—

" That your memorialists have read with pleasure
a letter addressed by order of your Lordship to the
President of this Chamber, dated the 7th of August
last, in which your Lordship states that her Ma-
jesty's Government had•selected Mr. Ward to pro-
ceed to Berlin to assist in watching over the inte-
rests of Great Britaia with reference to the propos A.
treaty between the States of the Zollverein and the
Imperial Government of France.

" Your memorialists would respectfully once more
impress upon your Lordship the great importance
of her Majesty's Government, and through it the
various chambers of commerce, being continually
informed of the different stages of that treaty.
" In the event of the treaty assuming the form of
the Anglo-French treaty—namely, containing a
tariff and the most favoured nation clause, your me-
morsalists consider that great and important inte-
rests in this country might be jeopardised it in
consequence of that treaty, the same duties should
in all cases be imposed by the Zoilverein as they
are by France. The interests of France and Eng-
land are as dissimilar as their productions, and
your memorialists submit that it is impossible for
any public man to possess all the information
required for the variety of articles which
make up the enormous amount of our export
trade. Of public bodies it is only in the dif-
ferent chambers of commerce that this knowledge
is to be found, and it is by them only that Her Ma-
jesty's Government can be put in possesiion of the
necessary facts.

" You; memorialists would give an instance of
one article in which this district, represented by
your memorialists, is deeply interested—namely,
worsted yarns, of which in the year 1860 there were
exported to the Zollverein an amount above
£2,000,000 in value at a duty of 3f. 75c. per 100
kilograms, and if the French duty were imposed
that duty would amount to from 25f. to 100 f.—on
the average about 40f.—a duty which would destroy
that foreign trade which is even more important
than that with the United States of America.

" Your memorialists could multiply instances,
but the one above referred to will be deemed suffi-
cient to warrant the extreme anxiety of your
memorialists that the negotiations should not be
permitted to arrive at a stage when further exer-
tions would be useless in the face of afait accompli.
" Your Lordship will perceive the importance of
receiving this information sufficiently early to allow
the different chambers of commerce to be consulted
and your memorialists hope and believe the import-
ance of the question to this district will be a sufficient
apology to your Lordship in your memorialists thus
once more drawing your serious attention to it.
" And your memorialists would venture to suggest
that Her Majesty's Government adopt the same
means which enabled the Belgian Government to
be immediately informed of every phase and detail
of the treaty then in progress between this country
and France, which was effected by means of the
Belgian Government asking and obtaining permis-
sion from the French Government to be daily made
acquainted with the progress of the negotiations
between this country and France,

" Signed on behalf of the Council of the
Bradford Chamber of Commerce,
"11. W. RIPLEY, President."
assell to Sir,—l am dire' c" tFeodrbeiygniooffirdeen, Sept. 20, 1861.
acknow-
lege the receipt of the memorial which you for-
warded to me from the Bradford Chamber of Com-
merce, expressing the wish of that body to be kept
informed of the progress of the negotiations with
Prussia for a treaty between this country and the
States of the Zollverein, and I am to state to you, in
reply, that Mr. Ward, who has been instructed
assist in these negotiations, has also been dirceted
to communicate with the different chambers of com-
merce, as regards any alterations which are to be
made in the tAriff.

" I am, Sir, your most obedient humble servant,
" 11. W. Ripley, Esq. • "A. li. LAYARD."
In the course of a conversation,
Mr, JACOB BEHRENS complained of the vague-
ness of the answer to the memorial, and said that
Mr. Ward did not go the right way to get informa-

tion, nor was he sent to Berlin to negotiate a treaty
but simply to hear what was doing, and report what
he heard, and is he did not hear anything he had
come back without anything to report'. So he (Mr.
Behrens) had been informed. This brought in
question of the very highest importance, which Wag
first mooted by the Leeds Chamber of Commerce,
that of having a proper officer to attend to the
trade of this country, The present Ministry of
Commerce, the Board of Trade, was, he believed,
actuated by the best intentions, but had no power ;
and from the Foreign.ofliee chambers of commerce
got such letters as that just read, saying nothing at
all, and showing utter ignorance of trade. lle (Mr,
woulde inbkethgm
the duty
in tyof all the
chambers Behrens) thought
commerceough t
it
in t h
the next
Session of Parliament, to see that they had a pro-
per
increasing
interests to watch over the daily
interests of the foreign trade of this country.

A rumour .was in Circulation yesterday in Paris
of the death of ithe Rev. 17::ther Lacordaire. The report,
,weunderetar,i, premature, but 40 hopes are entertained
of h'-; 41tiaglto reeuyery,

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';iIIIEATRE,I:O YAT IiAYMI.IIT(ET.
Lessee, Mr. J. B. Back tone.
Tif 13 EVEN( thn performances will nommenso with
THE MERCHANT OF VENICE. Shylock, Mr. Edwin
Booth (from the principal American theatres); Launeelot
Gobbo, Mr. Buckstone ; Portia, Mrs. Charles Young.
After which, BOX AND COX.
To conclude with TURNING TILE TABLES.
Commence a 7.

p4uYA. PRINCESS'S THEATRE.-
. Lessee and Manager, Mr. A. Harris.
'l' II IS EVENING, TUN: RENDEZVOUS.
A iter which, a new and original comedy, in five acts, writ-
ten by John Brounliam, entitled PLAYING WITH FIRE ;
characters by Mr. John Brougham (his 4th appearance), Mr.
!Cyder, Mr. U. Widdicombe, Mr. G. Jordan (of the principal
thestres of the United States, his 4th appearance in Eng-
lan 1), Miss C. Lelciercq, and Mrs. Weston.
With TOE GARIBALDI EXCURSIONISTS.

OYAL LYCEUM THEATRE,
Manager—Mr. Edmund Falconer.
EVENING-, A MIDSUMMER'S EVE.
Alter which, at Eight o'clock, the new and success-
ful comedy of WOMAN; or. Love against the World.
characters by Messrs. Walter Lacy, Addison, Herman Vezin,
J. Robins, Mrs. Charles Young, Mrs. Weston, Miss Murray,
and Miss Lydia Thomw.
'l'3 conclude with A'( UNPROTECTED FEMALE, in
whi.2h Miss Lydia Thompson will danee a New Volunteer
Quick Step.
l'?lces as nsnal, floors open at half-past 6, to commence at
7. Hox-offiCe open daily from It till 5.

‘lr EW THEATRE-ROYAL, ADELPHL-
Solo Proprietor and Hanayer, Mr. B. Webster.
Open for the Winter Season.
T!1 IS EVENING, MUSIC HA.TFE CHARMS. Messrs.
1). Fisher, Romer, Warde, MissPs K. Kelly and Laidlaw.
Alter which (240th time), THE COLLE N BAWN. Mr.
D !toucicault, D. Fisher,llington, S. Emery, Stephenson,
C. 1. Smith, Romer, Howard, Ward ; Mrs. Boueicault, Miss
W olgar, Mrs. Billington. and Mrs. H. Lewis.
'Folonclude with LOVE, AND HUNGER. Messrs. Fisher,
Emery, C. J. Smith,'Mrs. H. Marston, and Miss K. Kelly.
Doors open athalf-past 6—Commence at 7.

JANTERBURY HALL CONCERTS,
AND FINE ARTS GALLERY.
.Mr. SAM COWELL every evening at Nine and a quarter
to Eleven.—Also, Grand Selections from TROVArfORE,
TRA VTATA, NORMA, MARTHA, &e., by Miss Russell,
Miss Ernst, Mr. Herbert, Signor Tivoli, Mr. Morley, and a
Ipowerful Chorus. The Comic department comprise‘ Messrs.
Ilarvey and French, " The Nerves " —Mr. Marshall—Mr.
Wood and his talented Son—and Miss Harriet Coveney.

New Opera by Auber, LA CIRCASSIENNE. —A "Grand
Selection, arranged and conducted by Mr. Jonghmans, from
this Opera was produced, FOR TUE FIRST TIME IN THIS
COUNTRY, on Monday, 2 :d inst., and will be performed every
evening Principal Arttstcs—Miss Russell, Mr. Herbert, and
Signor Tivoli.

Musical Director, Mr. Jonghmans.
Admission—Hail, 6d. ; Stalls and Balcony, Is.

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T H E 0 X F ORD,
6, OXFO ft D -SXIVE T.
,
• EVERY EVENT .'
A Grand Selection from Verdi's newcipeta, "Simon Boo-
eancgra" (now produced .for the first tirae in this country),
by Miss Russell, Messrs. C. Greyille, Tivoli, Greene, Motley,
and Herbert ; also from Verdi's "Macbeth," by Madame
"Enderasohn and the entire Company. Full band and chorus.
Conductor, Mr. F.- Jonghmans. Varied Cmnic Entertain-
ments by Harvey and French (The Nerves), Wood and his
-Son, E. Morahan, and W. Randall. Hall, 6d.; Balcony and
Stalls, ls. ; Private Boxes, 10s. 6d.

HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE.
THIS DAY.—Morning, 12h. 6m.—Afternoon, 12h. 26m.
TO-MORROW.-Morning, 30m.—Afternoon, lh. 10m.

THE WtATIIER.—SUN OFFICE, OCTOBER 2, 1861.
THERMOMETER, IN THE SHADE.
70—highest since noon yesterday.
53—lowest this morning and during tha night.
61—this day at noon.
BAROMETBR-29.97; rising again.
WlND—North-Westerly—light; with fine weather. It
rained in the night.

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THE SUN.

LONDOI'4, WEDNESDAY, OCT. 2, 18e1.

The most popular minister in England has lately
been showing that he has something more than
popular talent—he has strong native sense to guide
it. His sermon on the railway accidents, entitled,
"Accidents not Punishments," would put to shame
those of thousands of older men. And we must
frankly confess' that, remembering the school of
theology in weh` he has been educated, we were
almost as mtfali surprised as pleased with the evi-
dently scriptural as well as rational view he took
of such subjects. It is unquestionably amongst
Mr. SPURGEON'S merits that his thoughts, if
not remarkable for profundity, are his own. He
is perfectly independent. He adopts from others
only what his own judgment approves, and so long
as it approves. Hence, he is perfectly free to learn
froth observation and experience, and having heard
him only at very long intervals, we can testify
that he has wonderfully improved in pulpit pro-
prieties since he first came to London ; and that
with an increase rather than otherwise of the really
popular element in his style. From the sermon
alluded to itself, we see this readiness to be in-
structed by what passes before him. One of the
most vivid illustrations of the folly of treating
accidents to Sunday pleasure-takers as judgments
on them is derived from the dreadful
calamity which occurred in the Surrey Music Hall
to his own congregation assembled for worship.
The Christian and humane reasoning of the dis-
course is, however, as 'interesting to us as the
illustrations. It will, we hope, shame out of Court
so many of Mr. SPURGEON'S general school as
are 'but too prone to wield, as they think, the
thunderbolts of the ALMIGHTY with their own
puny hands. There are some passages in that
sermon, on the wickedness of making what is
termed a good use of popular superstition, which
thousands of clergymen would do well to study.
Last night Mr. SPURGEON showed his good sense
doubly—by asserting the necessity of amusement
as well as religion, and by furnishing an amusement
himself, which' Evidently highly delighted some
5,000 or 6,000 people. Indeed numbers could not
gain admittance. We might say he trebly showed
his good sense, for he did not scruple to use his
immense place of worship, for a sober amusement
worthy of a rational
people. Think of the autho-
rities of Westminster Abbey or St. pu ,
s drpolplanaegye the
theof
same I Mr. SPURGEON seems disposandlot o e
s
civility to ioligion of the proprietors r
amusement. The Crystal Palace, and the theatres,
have of late been freely proffered for religious wor-
ship. Lord SHAFTESBURY and his friends have drawn
crowded audiences in our metropolitan theatres for
worship on Sunday evenings ; so Mr. SPURGEON
draws on a Tlrsday evening an immense audience
for amusement, All this is as it should be. The

diyoatee of religion and rational entertainment can

never be with advantage to the former.

Hum an

nature will assert its rights. It is but trite to
say that extreme abstinence will be followed by
extreme indulgence ; that compulsory abstinence
will follow« 1 by wanton indulgence.; 01;
the Ake of Cioativ Em, and t!-.e Puritans wilt
be by the Age of CIIIRL.ES the SECOND
aild- the debsuchees. We hope there are
I'l gm of a mirth sounder wisdom amongst religious
People,and vie are thankful to notice that, with so
p epular a teach„., religion is not a synonym for
un> >atural abstinence. The society for whose funds
he, was delivering his lecture was, to be sure, a
Cott 11 abstinence society; but it was a society for .

LFRED MELLON'S PROMENADE
CONCERTS.
TREATRE ROYAL, COVENT-GARDEN.
LAS r WEEK BUT ONE.

he first part of the Concert this Evening will consist of
election from the works of SPOHR and WEBER.--
( second part being Miscellaneous
Vocalist s—Mdlle. PAREPA and Miss POOLE.
Commence at 8. Promenade, ls.
Con t' actor, Mr. ALFRED MELLON.
On Saturday next, the Last VOLUNTEER NIGHT, when
r, etlioven's Battle Piece will be repeated.
On Monday next, Handel's oratorio, TIIE CREATION
the entire work).
On Wednesday next, for the Benefit of Miss Julia Woolf.