The Sun.
London, England, 1857-03-05 00:00:00

INDUSTRIAL SCHOOLS.

On the motion for the second reading of this bill,
Mr. ALCOCK moved that it be read a second time
that day six months. He did so on the ground that the
bill was unnecessary.
Mr. HADFIELD seconded the motion.
Mr. BAINES, on the part of the Government,
supported the principle of the bill, and stated that he
would give his assistance in committee to improve its
det ails.
Mr. BAXTER supported the principles of the bill,
and gave some interesting details of the working of in-
du, trial schools in Scotland.
Lord STANLEY supported the principle of the bill,
be'ieving it was thoroughly sound in principle.
Mr. GORDON also supported the bill.
Mr. NEWDEGATE opposed the bill. He oirijected
to children whet wore guilty of no crime but destitution
being sent to a reformatory school. He thought the
workhouse schools might be improved so as to meet
the evil complained of.

Mr. BOWYER objected to the princip'es and details
of he bill. There was no protection for the religious teach-
in,z of destitute Romaa Catholic children. An expiring
P.trliament could not consider this bill as it ought, and
he suggested that this bill should be withdrawn for ma-
ture consideration and re-introduced another session.
Be should divide the house upon it.
Mr. ADDERLEY said it was the duty of this Parlia-
ment to complete the work it bad begun, and defended
the principles of the bill. It was rendered necessary
to meet the wants of our criminal population. He denied
ti: at this bill was of a proselytising character, and that
great care had been taken to avoid it.
Mr. A. BLACK supported the bill.
' Mr. SPOONER supported the bill. Industrial schools
had been tried in Birmingham and found successful. He
d .nied that the measure was of a proselytisiug charac-
ter.

Mr. PALK was of opinion that this bill, whilst appli•
cable to large towns, would not answer for the rural
d iat ricts.

- Sir G. STRICKLAND opposed the principle of the
b 11 from a feeling that the house was introducing a dan-
gerous principle by the adoption of an educational rate.
Such a principle would swamp the excellent voluntary
z 'll that now existed in favour of education. Instead
et advancing education they would retard it. The bill,
if carried, would teach parents to abandon their children.
Sir J. PAKINGTON said they must deal with the
f tct as it stood with reference to destitute children, and
he agreed with other hon. members that there were ob-
j c..ions to the details of the measure, but as he
toought they might be got over in committee
lo should support the principle of the bill. There ap-
p-ared to be a desire of separating education into three
la=ses. One was national schools, which he hoped soon
t see general ; the second, refurmatwies for dealing
'with our criminal classes, which, to a certain extent, had
Leen established, and which he hoped to see increased ;
and the third, industrial schools to be intermediate he-
t wean national schools and reformatories. This bill ap-
peared in its details to entrench on the national schools
and the functions of the guardians, but he thought them
capable of amendment. What his hon. friend proposed
Le understood was to provide for the children of the in-
termediate class between the honest poor and criminals,
ai.d who were, as Miss Carpenter had described them,
11:e " perishing and dangerous class." After
cl:uding to the progress made in the establishment of in-
dustrial schools in Scotland, the right hon. baronet said
lie had much pleasure in supporting the principles of this
Lill.

Mr. BALL supported the bill, and said that if they
vere to spend as much money on the education of the
children in the rural districts as they did on
their horses and dogs the children would be in a
score advanced state, as regarded morals and religion,
than those in large towns.

Mr. HENLEY supported the bill, which ought, he
said, to be used as supplementary to the Reformatories
(Government)
Mr. BARROW opposed the bill.

Sir S. NORTHCOTE replied to the various objections
that had been urged against the bill. It was intended
f,..r the intermediate class referred to, and thereby save
the heavy expense of 7s. per week per head, which their
children cost the country in reformatories. The principle
cf the bill was to give education gratuitously, but that
the
.parent should pay for the expense of his child's
maintenance, and where that was impossible that 34.
per week per head should be taken from the poor rates,
NV hich was the maximum coat of maintenance of children
h workhouses. To a certain ()dent this was a bill
founded on the voluntary principle. He had no wi,da to
proselytise, and he did not consider that the bill gave
f tie for it.

Mr. DUNLOP Expressed his gratification at the in-
troduction of this bill.

After some remarks from Mr. Liddell, Mr. C, For-
tescue, Mr. Sergeant Shee, and Mr. Warner,
Mr. ALCOCK withdrew his amendment, and
The bill was read a second time without a division,
and ordered to be committed.

EDUCATION (CITIES AND BOROUGHS) BILL

• On the motion for the second reading of this bill,
Mr. HADFIELD presented the following petitions
against the bill, Niz.—from owners of land, house, and
r•t,:er buildings in the city of Manchester, assembled at
lila Town-hail, Manchester, and signed by their chair-
pan on their behalf ; inhabitants and ratepayers, Man-
chester, assembled at public meeting ; and Samuel
Morley, E,q., and the Rev. J. El. Hinton, chairman and
Pecretary of the Committee and Friends of Voluntary
-E.:ucation in London.

The petitions were read by the Clerk at the table.
Other petitions were presented against the bill.
In reply to a question from Mr. COBDEN,
Sir J. PAkINGTON postponed the second reading
of this bill till this day week.
The second reading was accordingly postponed.
'COURT OF CHANCERY (IRELAND) (TITLES
OF PURCHASERS) BILL.

Mr. WHI CESIDE moved the second reading of this
the object of which waa to secure the tides to
estates obtained through the Court of Chancery (bp.
I'l d). The principle was allowed in the Encumbered
Eitates Court, and it ought to be granted to the Court
I f Chancery.
Mr. G. burr seconded the motion.

Air. FITZGERALD (the Irish Attorney General)
opposed the motion. Hi o main objection to it was that
it was de,ling in a fragmentary manner with a
1. seat subject, and -in a way to undermine ono
of the most beneficial reforms that had ever been con-
f-rred on Ireland, viz , the Encumbered Estates. Gaut.
1I would never consent to the undermining of that
which had been so beneficial to Ireland. He considered
i) better not to adopt this patchwork legislation, but
wait and sea bow the Court of Chancery worked out its
own reformation, in accordance with the act of last see.
t4i,:n. He did not intend to divide the house, but allow
.te till to be read a aocond time, and take his objections
to it at a further stage.
After some T.( marks from Mr. MACARTNEY,
Sir E. PERRY moved the second reading of the bill
tI,M day two months,
After some discus,ion the amendment was with-
drawn, and the bill was read a second time and ordered
to be comm Wed on Mon lay next

COURT OF CHANCERY (IRELAND) BILL.
The second reading of this bill was postponed till
Monday. _

The hou3e arljourrelat halc-put five o'c'eek.

THE UNEMPLOYED POOR. CAUTION TO THE DENE-
voL ENT. —G eorge Prica nod Jolla Vincent, described as
labourers, were charged before Mr. Combe, at the
Southwark Police court, with unlawfull begging alms
in the public F.treet. A police-constable stated that he
as on duty in Newington.causeway on the previous
evening, when he observed the prisoners walking by the
side of the kerbstone. and singing, " We have no work
to do," and the " Farmer's boy." He saw a soldier
eive them some money, and he took them into custody.
The prisoners said that they came from the country, and
had no means of procuring help. Mr. Combo sentenced
ach of them to 14 days' hard labour, as vagrants
A PLANTER'S S ON. —A planter had a son of eight
3:eiars old
litp•, who caught his father's tone with precocious
fi We beard him whipping 1,i9 puppy behind the
h<use and swearing between the blres, his rather and
mother being at hand. His tone was an evident ink .L
ii,qa hisfathees mode of dealing with his slave?.
" I've got
an account to,settl e with you ; I've let you
gn about long enourll ;
i,a
There, go now, (1_ teach you who's your master.
with you yet." "You stoyou ; but I haven't got through
that cursing, " said his father.
at length ; it is not ripght for
mliatdtler replied the boy ;
boys to curse."
"rec
4, Whkaont dyou cuss somo you do whee you
get
now you'd better shut up
;
so
--Ointstccrs TeXa3.
DVERTISENENT.] —Jane Hallett, of Wicttv Head
roar Netherbuiy, Dorset, suffered for many
hadtarsseyeral
a had leg. Fro the knee to the allelefront
Front
wounds, so that she was ura.ble to stand or wove about
t!it, house. She tried a
a variety of means and
pplica.'
ti ,as, but without obtainieg a cure. By the blessing f
.
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n'ul taking three bates' f she was perfectly cured,
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