The Sun.
London, England, 1859-08-03 00:00:00

SUPPLY.

On the motion of Mr. BRAND, the house then resolved
itself into a Committee of Supply—Mr. Massey in the chair
—when the adjourned debate on the vote of £40,000 for the
improvement of the Kaffir tribes was resumed.
Mr. CONINGHAM said that as this vote was, he under-
stood, to be reduced next year, he would withdraw his op-
position to it on this occasion.
The vote was then agreed to, as was the vote of £69,215
to defray the expenses of the Treasury chest.
On the vote of £30,000 for the Submarine Telegraph
Companies being proposed,
Mr. AYRTON asked the position of the Government if
the company did not proceed with the Red Sea line P
Mr. LAING replied that the position was the same as
the Government guarantees to the other lines.
The vote was then agreed to, as was also £12,000 for the
Niger Expedition, £7,949 for the Zambesi Expedition,
£4,700 for the inspectors of corn returns, £1,946 for the
registrar of joint stock companies, and £11,850 for revis-
ing barristers.

On the vote of £3,332 to defray the expenses of the po-
lice at Aldershott being put,
Mr. W. WILLIAMS objected to this item. It was
monstrous that such a sum should be required to keep a
body of soldiers in order.
Mr. LAING urged that the police were necessary to
keep, not the soldiers, but camp followers in order.
The vote was then agreed to, as was a sum of £3,000 for
the inspector of burial grounds.
On the vote of £2,000 for the National Portrait Gallery,
Mr. SPOONER denounced the vote and expressed his
determination to take the sense of the committee against it.
Mr. AYRTON was of opinion that the proposed vote
was a lavish and useless expenditure of the public money.
Lord PALMERSTON reminded the committee that this
was a question which had already been fully discussed, and
that this was not a vote for the advancement of art, but for
the formation of a gallery of portraits, which served to illus-
trate the history of the country. He could not but 'think
that this was a highly interesting subject to the country,
and that it was maintained at a comparatively trifling ex-
pense.

- Mr. CONINGHAM objected to the vote, and contended
that the collection might be brought under the machinery
of the National Gallery.
Mr. STIRLING supported the vote, which was opposed
by Mr. DANBY SEYMOUR.

After a conversation, participated in by Sir J.V. Shelley,
Mr. Augustus Smith, Mr. Blackburn, the Chancellor of
the Exchequer, Mr. Ridley, Mr. Briscoe, and Mr. W.
Williams, the committee divided, when there appeared—
For the vote .
Against it 35

Majority
The vote was then agreed to.
A vote for a sum of £2,050 for the boundary survey of Ire.;
land was agreed to, as also were the following:—£2,l4o for
the collection of agricultural and emigration statistics in
Ireland ' • £23,000 for the new courts and offices at the Four
Courts, Dublin; £1,300 for Pitcairn's Island, and £11,440
for the General Register Office, Edinburgh.
On the vote of £2,000 for the purchase of Sir 'George
Hayter's picture of the opening of the First Reformed Par-
liament,

Mr. SPOONER objected, and asked if it had been pur-
chased, and by whom.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said if it
had been paid for, it had been so by the late Chancellor of
the Exchequer ; the present Government had nothing to do
with it.

Mr. SPOONER objected to the vote.
Col. FRENCH said the picture had been purchased on
a vote of the late House of Commons, and he therefore did
not blame any Government. He should support the vote.
A desultory conversation ensued, which terminated in a
division, when the numbers appeared—
-82
For the vote
Against it
The CHAIRMAN, amidst laughter, gave his casting vote,
and declared the Ayes to have it.
The next vote was for a nun of £l,o6o:for:the purchase of
old gun metal to be employed in the construction of monu-
mental statues to the late Brigadier-General Niel, in the
county of Ayr; of General Havelock, at Sunderland; and
the Royal Engineers Monument at_Chatham, was agreed
to amidst loud cheers.
On the vote of £9,988 for constructing and preparing
rooms for the Turner and Vernon Galleries, adjoining the
Sheepshanks Gallery at South Kensington, being proposed,
Mr. CONINGHAM objected to the removal of these
Galleries to Kensington.
'Mr. AYRTON concurred, and urged that the Galleries
should be kept at Burlington House instead of being sent
to an inconvenient distance in the extreme west of London.
He condemned this proceeding as an intrigue, which
operated against the labouring classes and visitors to the
metropolis. .
Lord PALMERSTON intimated that final arrangements
had not been made, and the present proposition was only
conditional.MANNEßS was understood to support the
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from
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temporary arrangement now proposed.
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objected
building,GHAM repeated his former objections to
the transference of the National Gallery, whose buildings
were amply sufficientiftheßoyal Academy was removed
under
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from Trafalgar-square,
Lnol;Gull
irth. esTvoitii,He should therefore join in oppos-
ingmittee that the erec-
tion of temporary buildings, involved a wasteful expendi-
ture, because many reoccupied houses could have be n
rented at a small ex
before the expense for the time which would elapse
tnal arrangements wore completed.
Air. J. LOCKE opposed the vote, which was a prepos-
terous demand for merely temporary buildings. The sum
f
of £lO,OOO ought to be sufficientf' or or a permanent 1.0 1 ling.
He believed that the Royal Academy only occupied tiA,
rooms in Trafalgar-square by sufferance, and they ought to
14 + 4 t 9 A to providQ themselves a place elsewhere for next

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year's exhibition. By those means the nation would hive
I
ample accomodation for the reception of the pictures'lvom-
prising the NatiOnal Gallery.
Sir 3. KIELLEY sail diai fLe vote was fur „even lire-
proof rooms, which did not imply that they were merely
ti,mporary buildings.
Sir M. PETO expressed his concurrence in what had
fallen from the hon. and learned member for Southwark
(Mr. J. Locke), and was decidedly opposed to the vote of
10,000, when a fourth of that sum would have sufficed to
provide ample accommodation.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought
it inconvenient to discuss the present relations between the
Government and the Royal Academy. It was true that
certain progress had been made with the proposed tempo-
rary erections, but this had been done by the late Govern-
ment. With respect to the removal of the Royal Acadeindy,
it should not be forgotten that the Royal Academy had for
its primary function its teaching of art as taught in its
schools, which, by a removal,would for a time be thrown into
estate of paralysis. With respect to the Kensington museum
it had been highly successful, and the building proposed
would be available, after the Turner, Vernon, and Sheep-
shanks Galleries had been returned to Burlington House,
for other purposes useful to the Kensington establishment ;
efto regard them as temporary.
therefore re it was wrong
t 0
00the
supposedinotnriggues
influencing the late or present
Government, they existed only in the imagination of the
hon. and learned member for the Tower Hamlets.
After a few words from Sir H. Willoughby, Mr. Malin,
Lord Elcho, and Mr. W. Cowper,
The committee divided, when the numbers were—
For the vote .. - ........... 116
Against it . - .. 73
Majority
The next vote put from the chair was for a sum of £5,000
to Mr. W. H. Barber, in consideration of the sufferings he
had undergone, and of his distressed circumstances.
Mr. B. COCHRANE remarked that the sum proposed
was totally inadequate to the sufferings he had undergone.
Mr. CLIFFORD thought the vote introduced an en-
tirely new principle—lhat of compensating a man who had
been tried and convicted of an offence ; and the principlo, if
good, ought to be applied to men who were tried and ac-
quitted.

The committee then divided, when the numbers wer.!,—
For the vote
'Against it
Majority —lOO
The house then resumed, when the Hull Election Com-
mittee were called to the bar to be sworn. The membO.rs
nominated having all appeared at the bar with the excep-
tion of Col. F. Greville,
Sir F. BARING moved that the hon. and gallant MCI n-
ber, not having appeared within an hour after four o'clock
on the day appointed for swearing the said committee, he
be taken into the custody of the Sergeant-at-Arius.
The motion was agreed to.
BURY ELECTION.
Mr. BLACKBURN reported from the Bury Electit
Committee that they had resolved that the Right Hen. JF.
Peel had been duly elected to serve for the said borough in
the present Parliament.
The house adjourned at six o'clock.

BRIGHTON RACES.—(This Day.)

[BY .ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH.]
BRISTOL PLATE.

Queen Charlotte
T. P. Cooke
Bel Esperanza

Eleven ran.
NURSERY STAKES.
Dead heat between Horace and Cecilia.

Brine .

.u. 3

Eight ran.
BRIGHTON STAKES.