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and he was sure, as long as history spoke of the great events
that had recently happened in India, we should never for-
get the deeds of valour and of daring that had been performed
by Havelock, and Neill, and Nicholson, and On am.
The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH said he thonght that
the Governor-General ought to be separated from the other
civilians in this vote. At the comn:encemen.., of the last
session, a resolution was
Governor-General passed, in which a vote to the
was mixed up with others. He thought
that was a very bad precedent. That which was required of
the Governor-General was different from that which was re-
quired of every other man in the country. The whole
responsibility rested upon him, and it was just that he should
be thanked individually. He thought that, seeing the
enormous distance between the Governor-General, who was
responsible for everything, and the position even of the
generals, and still more of a gentleman whose name had
been introduced, and who was the mere agent of the Go-
vernor-General, it was due to the Governor-General that
his services should be acknowledged by a distinct vote. He
thought also that there should have been a specific vote of
thanks to Lord Clyde. He agreed with the noble duke, that
the merit of the last campaign consisted in its being a cam-
paign of combinations. To whom were those combinations
due but to the Commander-in-Chief, and why should the
thanks to him and to the brigadier-generals be lumped to-
gether ? The merits of the general officers and of the civi-
lians named in the vote had been amply touched upon by
the noble duke and those who had preceded him ; and he
would claim their lordships' attention for a few short mo-
ments to those who were not named in the vote, but who,
he was sure, were in their lordships' minds—he meant the
troops by whom those great victories had been won. The
Duke of Wellington once said to him that the British army
in India came nearer, in his opinion, to what the Roman
legions were than any troops he ever saw. That army had
not degenerated. There had not been in ancient or modern
history anything effected superior to what that army had
effected in the last 18 months. He recollected most of the
events of the wars of Napoleon. He recollected the battle of
Austerlitz ; but, looking back to those wars, he could not
find any in which there were so many circumstances com-
bined of historical, of military, and of social interest as there
were in the war now under consideration. He knew of no
action in which troops had shown such fortitude, such per-
severance, such endurance under suffering, such pertinacity
of resistance to forces that so overwhelmed them in num-
bers, nor in which an army had shown such a de-
termination to conquer as soon as it was pos-
sible to obtain a chance of success. He knew
nothing equal to the conduct of the British army
at the commencement of this war. Thank God that we
had such an army. When several of the military powers
of Europe were bringing together their forces, he feared
for the purpose of trying their strength on the field of
battle, it was satisfactory for us to know that we had an
army which could face any one of theirs with the absolute
certainty of success. If any one of the armies we have in
India were now encamped at Aldershott it would make the
mind of the Commander-in-Chief quite easy. Ten thou-
sand of that army would give victory to either side. There
was nothing like that army, there was nothing to be com-
pared to it ; there was nothing in ancient or modern his-
tory which came near to what that army had perfOrmed
in Central India. It was given to them to use for the first
time those improved fire-arms which had lately been dis-
covered, and to apply to improved science. They had been
learning the new art of war. It was from them that Eu.
rope had learned it. It was from them that Europe would
have to feel the effects of it if they came into conflict with
any European nation. When they read the accounts that
had been received, in whish all that had passed in India
had been related to us, almost as if we were present ; when
we heard of the electric telegraph passed under the fire of
the enemy through an unfordable river, and used for the
purpose of giving commands during a general action, they
saw that science was taken advantage of by a real genius.
Nor was it to be seen merely in that particular battle. These
troops had discovered these new appliances. They had been
fighting the battle of giants, not as acting with brute force,
but as if they had stolen the very fire from heaven. He
would not say more, but recollecting what these troops, which
he mice had the opportunity ofseeing, were—recollecting what
they were, seeing what they are now, that they had realised
all that ever was expected from them, that they surpassed
all troops that could be produced from one end of Europe
to another, that they were our countrymen, that men like
them were the men on whom we were to depend for the
safety of our country, he would not allow this opportunity
to pass without expressing his feelings, and saying as he
did it, that he knew that the feelings that he had expressed
were generally the feelings of their lordships. (Cheers.)
Lord GOUGH said he could not give a silent vote. He
joined cordially in what had been said by the noble lord
who had addressed them in support of this vote.
The Earl of ALBEMARLE remarked that Lord Clyde
had been more than 50 years in the service. He got his first
commission in 1809, and he was present at the battles of
Coruna, Barossa, Vimiera, and Vittoria. At the siege of
St. Sebastian he led the forlorn hope, and received two
severe wounds, and at the passage of the Bridge of Bidassoa,
he was again severely wounded. Their lordships would re-
member his services in the Crimea. Since he had been in
India he had conquered Oude and re-conquered India. In
the conquest of Oude he had displayed the most brilliant
strategy that had ever been exhibited with the exception
of that displayed in the campaigns of Napoleon. Too often
it had been the practice of his predecessors to rely too much
on the physical powers of our countrymen, to oppose a
handful of Europeans against myriads of Hindoos, and to
lead small bodies against batteries in position. But Lord
Clyde had not pursued that policy. He spread a net, as
it were, over Oude, and he caught all the fish that were in it,
with the exception of Feroze Shah, who escaped. He
showed a tender anxiety to avoid the waste of the blood of
his men. Lucknow had been taken twice, but there had
been a less sacrifice of life than in any former action in
India. Not only was he chary of the lives of his men, he
was also chary of the lives of the enemy; and " there must
be no hanging here" was the expression that was attributed
to him, and he believed most truly so.
The Earl of DERBY said he rose for the purpose of in-
serting a name which had been inadvertently omitted from
the list of officers whose names were mentioned in the vote
of thanks—he referred to Captain Sotheby, of the Royal
Navy. (Hear.) With regard to the propriety of inserting
the name of the Governor-General in a separate resolution,
as had been suggested by his noble friend, the same thought
occurred to himself so strongly that he proposed to amend
the resolution in that sense ; but on looking to the course
taken last year, he found that a precedent had been set for
the course now adopted, and he therefore abandoned the
one which had been recommended by his noble friend. He
was glad his noble friend adverted to the services of the
troops in India. If he had not done so himself it was be-
cause he had no wish to lengthen the address he made to
their lordships. No one could suppose that there was any
desire on the part of any of their lordships to depreciate the
immense services which had been conferred on the country
by the valour and brilliant efforts of the troops in India.
The vote was then agreed to, the name of Capt. Sotheby
being added to the list of names mentioned.

APPROPRIATION BILL.
The Appropriation Bill was read a first time.
Their lordships adjourned shortly after eight o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(YESTERDAY.)
The SPEAKER took the chair at 4 o'clock.

PRIVATE BUSINESS.

The Maybole and Girvan Railway Bill, and the Wans-
beck Railway Bill were read a third time and passed.
The amendments to the following bills were considered
and the bills ordered for third reading :—East Kent Rail-
way Company; Herne Bay and Faversham Railway.
(Margate Extension) ; Wear Navigation and Sunderland
Docks.

Mr. FITZROY moved that, in the case of all private
bills originating in the House of Lords, the standing orders
be suspended ; and that, on the bringing up of the reports
from the committees on such bills, they be forthwith read
the third time, or considered and read the third time, as the
case may bo.—Agreed to.
MR. CHISHOLM ANSTEY, &c.

Mr.. E. JAMES moved for the, followinc, returns :
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—'Address for copies of all correspondence, judges' notes, or
other papers, on the following subjects, or any of them :-
1. The resignation of the justiceship of the peace for
Hong Kong by Mr. T. Chisholm Anstey, sent in to
the local government on the 13th day of May, 1858. 2.

His suspension on the 7th day of August, 1858, from the At-
torney-Generalship of the colony of Hong Kong, and from
the office of counsel to the superintendency of trade in China.
3. The case of the Queen v. Tarrant for libel, tried at the
November Sessions (1858) of the Hong Kong Supreme Court
(Criminal side). 4. The charge of alleged complicity of
Mr. Caldwell, J.P. and Protector of Chinese at Hong Kong,
with Hong Kong pirates. 5. The charges made against
the acting Colonial Secretary (Dr. Bridges) with reference
to the foregoing subject, and also the opiums farm monopoly.
6. The charges made against the Lieut.-Governor of Hong
Kong (Colonel Caine) and his Chinese comprador, with re-
ference to extortion and bribe-taking, in the years 1846 and
1848. 7. The proceedings against Mr. May, superinten-
dent of police at Hong Kong, Mr. Tarrant, registrar of
deeds there, and the police interpreter, Tong Aken, and the
dismissal of the police-court interpreter, Assam, for having
severally given evidence against the said parties, or any of
them. 8. The imperial regulations (if any) by which the
several suspensions or removals before mentioned were
authorised.