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tx3.niple of that house before them, he thought it would
be 15 millions.

Mr. SPOONER, wished for further explanation as to
the silni-Ofl,7lgot. aitcady referred to—whether it was
for designs or for the articles themselves ?
Mr. WILSON said it was not for designs at all, but
the whole amount paid for the articles themselves, in-
cluding everything.

Sir II WILLOUGHBY said he found that the pre-
sent vote was 20,0001. in excess upon the amount which
had been stated as the limit of the expenditure some
time ago. He objected to the extra charge made by Sir
C. Barry on various items, and wished to put a stop to
it. In order to put something like a limit to the expendi-
ture, be would move the reduction of this vote by
20,0001.
Sir B. HALL said he had already intimated that he
had written to Sir Charles Barry, requesting full particu-
lars as to the excess of the expenditure beyond the stipu-
lated sum of 234,0001. He hoped to receive those par-
ticulars in the course of the session, and they would
then be laid before the house. He pledged himself not
to sanction any expenditure beyond the estimate of 1854
that was not fully explained.
Lord C. HAMILTON said that any one who had
watched the course of Sir C. Barry must be satisfied that
he exceeded all architects in ingenuity in devising extra
charges: (A laugh.) Had the house gone about the
business in a proper way at first, half a million might
have been saved. Much of the charges and commissions
bad been made on works that were afterwards found in-
sufficient. He contended that these ought not to have
been allowed to Sir C. Barry. The very chamber in
which they were sitting had been altered from the floor
to the roof. First, the benches were placed so close that
members could not not sit down on them. This had to
be altered ; and alterations in the galleries were thus ren-
dered necessary. Then it was found that nobody could
hear in the house, and the roof had to be altered. The
windows also bad to be altered, and lastly the ventila-
tion. (Hear.) What private gentleman would have
allowed an architect to play such tricks with him with-
out having a precise estimate ? (Hear.) The late Sir
W. Molesworth had stated that it was impossible to say
what the total cost would be, the confusion was so great.
He wished to have some explanation of the 23,0001. to
Sir C. Barry included in this vote.
Mr. BARROW was in favour of a portion of the vote
being stopped until the house had before it that full in-
formation which the right hon. baronet (Sir B. Hall) had
required, but which he would most likely not get unless
this course were pursued.
Mr. ERISCOE was in favour of the amendment.

Mr. W. WILLIAMS thought that if the amendment
was carried, it would do much to stop the extravagant
expenditure. He objected to the charge for the residence
of the clerk of the Parliaments. It would be far better
to give these officers a gross sum. The vote also con-
tained 5,0001. for works of art for the new houses. He
wished to ask if any means was to be taken to comme-
morate the most illustrious man this country ever pro-
duced—the Proteetor Cromwell It would be a dis-
grace to the present generation if this was not done.

Mr. P. W. MARTIN said that if they were to stop
the works now going on, they would lay themselves
open to the ridicule of all foreign nations. (Hear, hear.)
Mr: WILSON said that there had been frequent dis-
putes with Sir C. Barry as to his remuneration. This
bad originally been fixed at. 29,000/. ; in 1853 it was
determined that he should be paid 2 per cent, on the
extra expenditure. The Government and the house
thought that he was not entitled to the usual charge, 5
par cent. When this came to be settled last year, Sir
Charles made a large claim for the expense he had been
pat to for measurement of the works ; and it was agreed
that he should be paid 4 per cent, to cover this expense.
The sum of 23,0001. in the present vote included that
charge; the 5,000/. was for his superintendence of the
lighting, ventilating, and other matters.

Mr. MALINS reminded the committee that Sir Chas.
Barry bad not the opportunity of saying a word in reply
to the multifarious charges brought against him. He
had no doubt a great deal was to be said on the other
side, even in reference to the alterations of that cham-
ber, and that the employers were as much to blame as
the architect. Every one knew that the settled role for
an architect's remuneration was 5 per cent. upon the
outlay, where no special agreement was made. The Re-
form Club bad been erected by Sir C. Barry; the same
question arose as to his remuneration; it was referred to
arbitration, and Mr. Justice Erle, then, at the bar,
awarded him 5 per cent. Sir C. Barry contended that in
this case there bad been no special contract which should
deprive him of his 5 per cent. He had devoted 20 years
to the erection of these houses, and be bad made an offer
which ought to have been acceded to by the Govern-
ment. He bad made no contract ; the Government
sought to impose their own terms upon him ; and
because they ,a ere more powerful than he was
they expected him to submit. He contended that the
Government was no more justified than an individual
would be in imposing their own terms on Sir Charles.
They ought to submit the question either to a legal or
some other tribunal.
In answer to Mr. SPOONER,

Sir B. HALL said that great inconvenience would
result from refusing a portion of the vote, as the conse-
quence would be to stop some of the works.
Mr. W. WILLIAMS said that Sir Charles Barry
agreed to build the Reform Club for a certain sum of
money ; he deviated from his plan, and then sought to
charge 5 per cent. upon all the extra work.

The committee then divided—
For the amendment
Against
Mr. KIRK observed that the ornamental stonework
of the house, especially of the esplanade on the river
front, was giving away, and suggested that it might be
stopped by an application of some cement.
Mr, HENLEY said that the rust was also eating into
the iron roof,

Sir B. HALL said that the right hon, gentleman was
quite right. He had the roof examined and found that
the galvanic process did not act, and that the rust was
getting through. All they could now do was to cover it
over by some chemical process. It was also true that the
stonework was decaying in some places, and a remedy
had been tried, but it would take some time before its
efficacy could be known.
• Mr. WISE hoped the right hon. baronet would lty
on the table a return of the whole cost of the Houses of
Parliament, which was estimated at 2,500,000/. and
3,000,0001. _ _ _ _ . _

Sir, B. HALL said he proposed to by on the table an
estimate just handed in by Sir C. Barry for the comple-
tion of the Houses of Parliament. To that he would add
a paper giving the cost of the building from the commence-
ment up to the present time, and by adding those toge-
ther the hon. gentleman might calculate the entire cost.
The vote was then agreed to.
A vote for 4431. for defraying the expenses of works
at Portpatrick Harbour was agreed to.
On the vote 77,5571.145. Bd, for the expenses of pub-
lic buildings in the department of the Commissioners of
Public Works, Ireland,
Mr. COWAN took exception to the item of 17,0141.
for lunatic asylums in Ireland, seeing that the people of
England and Scotland bad to pay the expenses connected

with those establishments in their respective countries.
He also objected to the item for the constructlon of a
court fur the Encumbered Estates Commission. He
should also object to the item. of 1,000/. for the. House
of Industry in Dublin.
Mr. MO WBRAY asked why the Irish estimates were
not as regularly end accurately made out as the other
estimates ; for in addition to the estimates there was put
down "five p-r cent. for contingencies."
Mr. WIL LIAUS wished to have an explanation of
the sum of 10,500/. for the offices and schools of the Na-
tional Education Board. He thought that Ireland should
support her own lunatic asylums as well as England and
Scotland, and objected to the items is the vote for the
maintenance of the mock royalty in Dublin.
Mr. BAG-WELL said they paid for their own lunatic
asylums in Ireland. The money advanced for the build-
ingsunas paid hack by the counties.
Mr. WILSON said that the facts of the case with
respect to the lunatic asylums were these :—The Go.
veil-anent advanced 200,000/. for the erection of the
buildings, but in consequence of a flaw in the Act of
Parliament, that sum of 200,0001. was in considerable
jeopardy. An Act of Parliament was brought in to cor-
rect that flaw ; but several Irish members Objected, and
said, " We do not object to pay our just debts with re-
gard to the erection of these buildings, but we have a
claim in consequence of the bad manner in which these
buildings have been erected." Commissioners were
therefore sent to visit the asylums, and to report how
far these claims were just. These commissioners made
a report that a sum of 17,000/. ought to be wiped off •a
account of repairs and additions which were not made,
but which the commissioners thought ought to be com-
pleted. With regard to the Dublin hospitals, the Go-
vernment only bowed to the decision of a committee
which sat on the subject. With regard to the 5 per cent.
contingencies, they were no addition to the vote. With
regard to the item for the Board of Education in Ire-
land, it was thought to be more economical and more
satisfactory in every respect that the boards of works in
England and Ireland respectively should have their own
architects, ate. With regard to the Encumbered Estates
Court, it was notorious that the present court was quite
insufficient for the purpose, and, though, the Encum-
bered Estates Court might itself cease to exist, it was
not likely that their functions would cease.

After some further discussion the vote was agreed to.
87,9671. for the salaries and expenses of the officers of
the two houses of Parliament.
15,9001., for the salaries and expenses of the Treasury.
16,4061., for the salaries and expenses of the office of
the Secretary of State for the Home Department.
14,1691. for the Department of Foreign Affairs.
20,1601. for the Department of the Colonies.
46,4111. for the Privy Council and Committee of the
Council of Trade.

1,7001. for the office of the Lord Privy Seal.
11,5101. for the office of the Paymaster-General.
4,2181. for the office of Comptroller-General of the
Exchequer.
81,1171. for the office of Commissioner of Works and
Buildings.
On the next vote,
15,1451. for the salaries and expenses of the office of
of the Commissioners of Woods and Forests and Land
Revenues,

Mr. CAIRD called attention to the increase in the
revenue of the Crown lands, and to the decrease which
had been paid into the Exchequer. , Although the in-
crease in the revenue had been more than 20,0001 in one
year, yet the proceeds to the Exchequer had been
2,0001. leas. The royal forests did not supply one
fiftieth part of the oak required for the navy. The
navy was not built of British oak ; it nearly all came
from the continent. The royal fotesta were most un-
profitable estates. At present they yielded about 3s.
9d. per acre, but it was said that if we waited
seventy years longer they would yield 6001. an acre,
being about thirty times the value of the fee simple of
good land. He strongly objected eo the great expenses

of this department, which yielded so litt•e. Whenever
the irevenue increased the expenses also increased in a
gresiter ratio. The legel cxpstises al ne were more than
ten leer cent. If the hereditary estates of the C:own
were managed with due economy and judgment, the re-
venlie would be equal to the expenses of the civil li.t.
The gross revenue was 410,0001. a year. Ho instanced
thelcase of the forest of Hainault in Essex, which four
years ago was a loss to the country, but now, owing to
a change in the management, it yielded 2,0001. a year.
The noble lord the other night had said that the reason
whr Aldershott was purchased was, that no other spot
of the same extent could be obtainell. Now, in the
sar e district there was the Woolmer 'Forest, • which
t
yie ded nothing to the public. Then, again, there were up-
wards of 30,000 acres in the New Forest, which at present
wore entirely unprofitable. If they had established the
caiiip there, the surrounding land which was now unpro-
fitable would have immediately become most valuable,
anill would have been taken at once for building pnr-
-Ipo es: For all these reasons, he objected to an increase
in he expenditure of this department, and he moved that
th vote be reduced by 1,4311., being the amount of the
increase over last year.
Mr. WILSON regretted that the hon. gentleman had
introduced such large questions on this vote, which was
simply for the expenses of the department in London.
It was impossible without notice for him (Ur. Wilson)
to go into those larger questions, deserving as they were
of the utmost consideration and attention. A part of
the proposed increase was for the salary of Mr. Smyth,
who was the mineral inspector appointed to look after
the mineral property on these estates. Surely it would
not be economy to cat his salary off, as his duty was to
look after the mineral wealth of these estates with the
view of increasing their revenue. As to the expenditure
for the forests, it was quite clear that cultivating timber
must bear a larger proportion to the income. As to the
improvement of Hainault Forest, that had been let to a
person who was an extensive agriculturist for 2,5001.
a year ; but the great bulk of that was merely five per
cent. on expenses laid out by the Crown for the drain-
age and the erection of farm buildings.

SINNAIRD said the hon. member bad not ob-
jected to the appointment of the mineral agents. His
argument was that, by proper economy, his salary might
be paid— that was, paid out of a proper reduction.
Mr. WILSON said that it was impracticable to re-
duce the London staff.

" Mr. WISE thought the services of the two commis-
sioners might be dispensed with. Ho believed that if
the Crown estates were properly managed the revenues
would be increased to 600,0001. He would like to see
the whole of the rents and profits paid over to the Ex-
chequer at once so as to get rid of the innumerable
local charges. In one of the forests the receipts was
411. 10s. 9d., and the expenses were over 3001.
Sir H. WLLOUGHBY thought these matters should
be brought before the house in the shape of estimates.
Mr. BRISCOE said that he had not beard sufficient
to induce him to vote for the amendment, but if a
motion had been made for a committee to inquire into the
whole subject be should have felt it his duty to give that
motion his support.
Mr. WILSON said that there was no difference be-
tween the Audit and the Board of Works, as some hon-
ourable members bad appeared to suppose. The sugges-
tion of the hon. baronet with respect to estimates was
well worthy of consideration in cases where it could be
carried into effect.

Mr. COWAN complained that in Scotland a great
amount of injustice was inflicted upon the people hav-
ing properties adjoining the Crown lands, for the sole
purpose of swelling solicitors' bills.
Mr. LAIRD contended that timber was not a proper
or profitable article to be grown in this country. Atter
the opinions which had been evpressed he should not
press his amendment to a division.

Mr. STEWART approved of the appointment of the
mineral surveyor to the Crown property as proposed.
The vote was then agreed to.
A sum of 13,3861 for the department of public records
was next agreed to.
A sum of 217,2401. was next proposed to defray the
expenses of the Poor-law Board.
Sir H. WILLOUGHBY wished to hear if there was
any probability of a change in the constitution, or any
reduction of the expenses connected with the Poor-law
Commission being made.
Sir G. GREY said that the present constitution of the
Board had been a short time since altered by the parlia-
ment, it had been found to work very well, and he
thought unless some very cogent reasons were shown
for so doing it would not be worth while making any
alteration in the commission.

Sir G. PECRELL also complained of the expenses of
the Poor-law Board, and hoped to see thorn curtailed.
The vote was then agreed to.
Upon the vote for 36,1951. being proposed for the
expenses of the Mint,

-Mr. CROSSE wished .to know whether the Govern-
ment intended to do anything towards the introducing
the decimal coinage I
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
the great difficulty was in dealing with the tenth of the
florin, which would require a coin of the value of 2 1.51
That coin, if cast in silver, would be inconveniently
small, and if in copper it would be inconveniently large.
Until that question were solved, -the Government were
not prepared to propose any scheme of decimal coinage.
Mr. CROSSE said that difficulty would remain for
over, and they might as well do away with the commis-
sion at once. At the same time he saw no difficulty,
about it, because silver 3d. pieces were already in use
which were not greatly different in value.
Mr. HEADLAM and S!r W. JOLLIFFE con-

curred in the importance of the question, and the latter
hon. gentleman suggested that an alloy might be used
with the silver to make 2 1-sd. coin a convenient siz3.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
the subject was full of difficulty, and that the advocates
of the system were themselves divided into a number of
different schools, some starting the penny standard,
others with the pound, and others with the florin.
The vote was then agreed to.
Tye vote for 14,9951. for inspection of mines was then
agreed to.
Upon the vote for 6,4301. for the establishment of the
Lord Lieutenant of Ireland,
Mr. WILLIAMS objected to the charge for Queen's
racing plates in Ireland being taken out of the public
taxes. He moved that ttte vote be reduced by 1,574/.
6s. 2d. on that account.

Sir W. JOLLIFFE opposed the the amendment on
national grounds, and said that but for Irish horses the
country would have been quite at the mercy of the
foreigner during the last war,
Mr. ROEBUCK said that 1,500/, was the last remnant
of the system of protection, and was merely speeding
money for spending's sake. It was absurd to suppose
that anybody would breed horses for the chance of get-
ting a 1001. prize.
Mr. MILES said he was afraid the hon. members for
Sheffield and Lambeth did not ride horses. Ho was an
old foxhunter, and admitted that it was a remnant of
Protection ; but it did good, because foreigners came
from all parts to get the bet horses from Irelaud.
Mr. ROEBUCK said that was a foxhunter's argu-
ment. The protection to the bones had the effect of
getting the horses taken away. (A. laugh.)
Mr. PALK and Lord 3. MANNERS supported the vote,
the noble lord charging Mr. Williaine with ineonisteboy
in having just before agreed to the vote including a
charge for Queen's plates in Scotland.
Mr. WILLIAMS said the vote was passed before he
had time to move an amendment. If he should have the
honour of a seat in that house next session, he would
move a similar amendment upon the vote for Scotland.
The committee then divided. The numbers wece—
For the original vote 202 --
For the amendment
Majority —147
The vote was then agreed to.
A vote was then taken for 1,7831. for the inspection of
lunatic asylums in Ireland.
On the vote for 15,9971. for the Board of Public
Works in Ireland,
Mr. WILLIAMS objected to the items for chairman
and deputy-chairman'e salaries, as being unnecessary.
Mr. WILSON said the board had most important
works to superintend.
Mr. BLACKBURN complained that 17,0001. had
been already voted for repairs to lunatic asylums in
Ireland, owing to the neglect of that board.
The vote was then agreed to.
A vote for 28,2651. was then taken for the expenses
of the commission for auditing public accounts.
Several other votes were then agreed to, including the
charges for the Inclosnre and Drainage Commissioners,
the Registration Commission (Ireland), and 8,901/. for
the expenses of the National Debt Commissioners.
On a vote of 300,2721. for printing and stationery in
connection with the Houses of Parliament,
Mr. J. EWA.RT called attention to this sum, and
suggested that some supervision should be adopted to
prevents its continued increase.
Sir F. BARING said that in 1848 the Treasury laid
down some checks with reference to this expenditure,
which in four years after reduced it by 80,0001. Since
1852, owing to the war, the amount bad doubled. He
asked if the Government approved of the suggestions of
the comptroller of the stationery department relative to
the reduction of the expenditure, and if they were pre-
pared to adopt them ?
Mr. WILSON said that in a day or two a paper would
be laid on the table showing at one view the expenditure
of each department, which would in future accompany
the estimates. He thought it would be a great check on
the expenditure. The printing committee would shortly
sit to consider the question. The increase since 1852
was more apparent than real, because many of the large
sums now in this vote were charged under different
heads.

The vote was then agreed to.
On a vote of 88,085/. for postages of the several
departments,
Mr. BENTINCK considered that this sum ought not
to be in the estimates. He thought the system of each
department paying their own postages liable to abuse.
Mr. WILSON said that it was adopted to test the
penny postage. It was merely one account against the
other, and there was really nothing objectionable in the
plan. It was convenient that the public should know
the exact earnings of the Post-office.
Mr. BENTINCK said he was one of those who con-
sidered the penny postage one of the greatest financial
errors of the age.
Sir P. BARING approved of the present plan as a
check against the abuse of official franking adopted
under the old system.
After some remarks from Mr. BENTINCK in expla-
nation,
Mr. ROEBUCK approved of the present estimates,
b
each department. They had heard of the abuse of the
was a check on the postage expenditure of
a me cbaaussse i t
a do r
's bag ; iu many caseelace and other parcels
having been sent by it, and ho believed in one instance
a pianoforte was sent ,by it, and in another a horse.

(Latighter). No doubt the same kind -of- abuse existed
under-the old official franking!.
After some remarks from Mr, PEASE, the vote was
agreed to.
On the vote of 24,1301. for law and other charges,
Mr. W. WILLIAMS complained of the increase in
this vote over that of last year. The principal increase
appeared to be in Ireland and Scotland.
After some remarks from Mr, HARDY and Mr. WILSON,
The vote was agreed to.
The su n of 250,0001. was granted to defray the expense
Of assizes, and for sessions. for counties, and 195,0001.
for boroughs in England and Wales ; 6,4801. for the
expenses of the Admiralty Court, Dublin ; and 7,2261.
fur the salaries of commissioners in the Insolvent Courts
of Dublin, were agreed to, as were other sums, but from
the inaudible manner in which the Chairman of the Com-
mittee read them it was impossible to take them.
A vote of 109,062/. .was taken for county courts,
60,000/. of which were for an estimated deficiency of fees
from county courts, to defray the expenses of salaries of

officers.
Mr. WILSON explained that the reduction of fees in
these courts that had lately taken place had rendered
this stun necessary to be voted by Parliament.
A vote of 19,6251. for the expenses of the metropolitan
police courts, 63.6451. for the metropolitan police force,
2,7151. for the Queen's prison, 3,3421. for salaries, &c.,
of Lord Advocate, 11,7671. for Courts of Quarter Ses-
sion (Scotland), 10,0291. for the Justiciary Court (Scot-
land); 5,5501. for commissioners, &e., under the Lord
Advocate, 50,0001. for sheriffs and stewards (Scotland),
and several other sums were also agreed to.
On the vote of 51,4701. for law expenses in Ireland,
Mr. W. WILLIAMS said that as this vote amounted
to so large a sum, and many of the items required expla-
nation, he moved that the committee report progress.
Lord PALMERSTON appealed to the hon. member
not to press his motion.
Mr. W. WILLIAMS said the house had made fur-
ther progress than he expected. He was without his
memoranda relative to this part of the estimates—
(laughter)—and therefore he asked for delay.
The motion was negatived without a division, and the
vote was shortly afterwards agreed to.
1,8661. for thelnsolvent Debtors Court in Ireland was
voted.
The house resumed.
REFORMATORY SCHOOLS.
Sir GEORGE GREY moved the second reading of
this bill.
Mr. ALCOCK objected to the bill being proceeded
with at that late hour.
Sir GEORGE GREY said that the bill was different
to the one of last session, as the clauses objected to then
were not introduced into the present bill.
Mr. MILES thought the bill ought to be proceeded
with, as it was a most important and useful measure.
He trusted, therefore, that the honourable member
woald not press the opposition.
Mr. HENLEY hoped that if this bill was to be read
a second time now, that a provision would be introduced
enabling reformatories to receive children from other
districts not having reformatories, upon the payment for
such children of a fixed annual sum.
Mr. ALCOCK said as the bill was to be forced on at
that late hour, he should divide the house.
The house then divided—
For the second reading
Against it
Majority in favour of the second reading-148
-The bill was then read a second time.
INSURANCE ON LIVES (A.BATEUENT OF
INCOME TAX) BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
SITES FOR WORKHOUSES BILL.
This bill was read a second time.
JOINT STOCK BANKS.
Mr. LOWE moved for leave to bring in a bill to
amend the law with regard to joint-stock banks. The
law at present required that a charter should be obtained
which when obtained amounted to no greater privilege
than a license to trade ; and if the bank should fall into
difficulty, all sorts of legal proceedings could be let loose
upon all connected with the bank. The bill would ap-
ply the act of last session to joint stock banks. The
shares would be limited to 1001. each, but the principle
of limited liability would not be applied to banks.
Mr. MALINS regretted to hear that the principle of
limited liability was not to be applied to banks the same
as to all other commercial bodies. The principle of
limited liability would be the means of inducing men of
property to join joint-stock banks.
Mr. ROEBUCK was surprised to hear that the prin-
ciple of limited liability was not to be part of this bill;
because the right hon. gentleman had himself admitted
that unlimited liability was no security. Look at the
case of the Royal British Bank. That was like a light-
house on a rock to warn them away. The principle of
unlimited liability was no security to the depositor, and
the right hon. gentleman-was only giving way to a vul-
gar prejudice.
Sir J. V. SHELLEY said it was perfectly monstrous
that banks should be the only commercial companies in
the country not under the principle of limited liability.
Mr. HENLEY said that in the case of private banks
the partners were liable to the last acre and the last
shilling.
Colonel SYKES said the principle of unlimited lia-
bility was a premium to adventurers who bad nothing
to lose, whereas limited liability was an inducement to
men of substance to give their countenance and sup-
port to these undertakings.
Mr. WYLD said he had found by experience that the
principle of unlimited liability in the British Bank was
no guarant-e to the depositor.
Mr. ROEBUCK said the great distinction between
private and jointestoak banks was this, that in the joint-
stock bank the shareholder had nothing to do with the
management, and yet was made liable for the effects of
that management. Ha thought it would be quite suffi-
cient to make the liability of the shareholders double the
amount of their shares.
Mr. HENLEY could not see the honesty of making a
distinction between private banks and joint-stock banks.
Leave was then given to introduce the bill.
The house adjourned at 20 minutes past one o'clock.

Chimoise, ostenßibly "to enhance the effect of her
striking physiognomy." From the Corps Dipior
'mativte we pass to the native Americans, who, we
eenfes4 interest us much more. Why was not
General Cass at the ball? The explanation is most
satisfactory. General Cass intends no slight upon
the British Crown, but, as his habit is to go to bed
at 10 o'clock every night, and as the dancing'at
Lord Napier's only began at half-past 10, it would
have been not a little difficult for the Generatto
b 3 present in person. "So careful is be of his
health that he will not dine out, not even with the
President and I doubt if he would sit u? after
10 p.m. were he sure of the nomination in 1500.
Twenty years ago in Paris, at balls in his own
splendid house—and he gave no end of them,—he
would Quietly slip off to bed at ten o'clock,. as
though he dreaded the fate of Cinderella, but, for-
tunately, he left his amiable wife, three charming
daughters, and a host of attaches to st.pply his
place." From General Cass we pass to a circle
or
notabilities less known to the English reader.
There was " the tall and very gentlemanly Secre-
tary to the,Navy ; Governor Toucey was there with
his wife, who is nearly as tall, and equally distin-
guished in appearance and demeanour." Nor was
the keen-witted and warm-hearted Howell Cobb,
with his plump face, wanting to the festivity ; nor
Governor Floyd, the Secretary of War, " with his
really martial appearance and martinet air."
Then there was Judge Black, the Attorney-
General, " with his searching, critical, disputatious
countenance, one of the most awkward customers
in a law argument any man can meet with.
His wife, too, Europe will rejoice to hear, is a
phenomena not only of beauty, but of extra-
ordinary youth. Her daughter is grown up, andi t
is not easy to say which is the senior of the two."
Is this the way Court Circulars are written in Ame-
rica ?
The endeavour to reproduce here the whole of
this portrait gallery would be useless ; we must re-
fer to the catalogue, which we print in, extenso, for
further and more accurate intorrnation. There it
will be found how the Hon. John Appleton, al-
though habitually a grave person, seemed to enjoy
the levities. Mrs. Appleton is a sprightly and
highly cultivated person—she is, we are told, " ad-
mirably adapted for f society, and its therefore no
wonder she seemed quite at home at the ball." But
we must positively refuse to make any more selec-
tions from this wonderful Gallery of Illustration.
If our own Court Circular would give us anything
equally interesting and characteristic about our
grandees, the general mass of mankind might take
greater interest in their amusements. Finally, let
us add, we heartily rejoice to see that Lord Napier
has won such good opinions at Washington, and
stands so well with American society.—Times.

THE EUPHRATES VALLEY RAILWAY.

A numerous and influential deputation, headed
by the Earl of Shaftesbury, Sir W. F. Williams
of Kars, Sir Justin Sheil, Sir George Pollock, K. C.B.
Mr. Horsfall, M.P., Colonel Pinney, M.P. Mr.
Gregson, M.P., Mr. Hutt, M.P., Mr. Buchanan,
and many other members of the house ; Count
Streylecki, Mr. M. Uzielli, General Chesney, Mr.
W.P. Andrew, the chairman of the Euphrates Val-
ley Railway Company; Sir F. Arthur, Bart., Sir
Herbert Maddock, Major J. A, Moore, the Lord
Mayor and several other gentlemen representing
the commercial interests; Colonel Harvey, Mr.
Lynch, of Bagdad, &c., waited on Lord Palmerston
yesterday at two o'clock, at Cambridge House to
impress upon his lordship the necessity of according
to the Euphrates Valley Railway company the pe-
cuniary support of government.
Lord Shaftesbury intoduced the deputation to
Lord Palmerston, and pointed out in forcible
language the vast importance to this country of
securing an alternative route to India, and thegreat
interest generally felt throughout the country in
this great undertaking, so calculated to promote
commerce, civilisation, and Christianity, and
stated that Mr. Andrew, the chairman of the com-
pany would submit to his lordship more detailed
information. _

Mr. ANDREW, after expressing his regret for the
unavoidable absence of Lord Stanley, said that for
some years it had been considered a great national
object to secure an alternative short route to India,
but that recently the establishment of the route by.
the Euphrates had become more and more neces-
sary, and more especially since it had been deter-
mined to open up the Valley of the Indus by the
application of steam. The great traffic which
would pour down this valley from Central Asia and
the Punjaub, once flowing towards Kurrachee,
would naturally seek an outlet by the sister valley
of the Euphrates, at least the lighter and more
valuable products as well as the mails and passen-
gers ; but the support of the government was not
sought ou commercial grounds. That support was
not sought alone on the ground of the political im-
portance of this ancient line of communication.
The grand object was to connect England with the
north-west frontier of India, by steam transit
through the Euphrates and Indus Vallies. The
latter would render moveable to either the Kyber
or the Bolan, the two gates of India, the flower of
the British army cantoned in the Punjaub, and
connected by the Euphrates line by means of
steamers, the flank and rear would be threatened
of any force advancing through Persia towards
India. So that the invasion of India by this great
scheme would be placed beyond even speculation,
and it would be evident by the great army
of India of 300,060 men being united by
this means to the army. in England theltnutual sup-
port they would render each other would quad-
ruple the power and ascendancy of this country,
and promote powerfully the progress, the freedom,
and the peace of the world. The countries to be
traversed were the richest and most ancient in the
world, and might again become the granaries of
Europe, and not only supply us with wheat, but
with cotton of excellent quality, and his gallant
friend General Chesney, who had recently visited.
these regions, would tell them that there were
hundreds of thousands of camel-loads of this valu-
able commodity rotting on the ground from the
want of the Means of transport. Sir W. F. Wil-
liams, of Kers, would tell them there was no diffi-
culty in dealing with the Arabs if they were fairly
treated. The Lord Mayor, who had bad intimate
commercial relations withthe East, and Mr. Lynch,
of Bagdad, who had for many years traded with
the Arabs, would speak to the honesty and trust-
worthiness of the Arab. As to physical difficulty
there was none—the line had been surveyed and
proved to be singularly eaty. Her Majesty's Go-
vernment had given their powerful influence and
support in obtaining the firman and concession.
They had placed her Majesty's ship Stromboli at
the disposal of General Chesney and Sir John
M‘Neill, and the engineering staff, and Lord Strat-
ford de Reddiffe had lent his powerful advocacy
with the Porte. He (Mr. Andrews) was deeply
grateful for the assistance thus afforded them, but
they had had now arrived at that point when some-
thing more was absolutely necessary, and that was
the pecuniary support of government to enable the
capital to be raised for theprosecution of the work.
It was not a matter for private individuals to
undertake. If they wanted an investment for their
'funds they would certainly not choose Turkish
Arabia. The establishment of a steam route by the
Euphrates had been placed before the public and
the Government. Many chambers of commerce
and other influential associations had already me-
morialised the Government in favour of granting
pecuniary aid ; and it was believed the country was
anxious that this route should be carried out by
Englishmen, and it now rested with_ the Govern-

.went to say whether they concurred in the impor-
tance of the work, and if so, whether they would be
prepared to recommend such an amount of pecu-
niary assistance, whether by
_guarantee or other-
wise, as would enable this, the most important
undertaking ever submitted to .their consideration,
to be proceeded with.
Sir W. F. Williams, of Kars, stated that during
his long residence amongst the Arabs he experienced
no difficulty in dealing with them, or in procuring
during his excavations in Stisa any number of work-
men he might-require ; and he also pointed out the
great importance of the proposed harbour of Soleil-
cia, as there was not a single.good harbour on the
Syrian coast.
Lord Palmerston assured the deputation that the
Government were fully alive to the great impor-
tance of the 'Euphrates route ; .that they had sup-
ported, and would continue to support it ; but he
could not give an opinion as to giving the guarantee
on the capital without consulting his colleagues, and
requested Mr. Andrew to put his proposition in
writing, and that it have a proper amount of
consideration, and that Government would be happy
to aid it if in their power.
Mr. Andrew having thanked his lordthip for the
courtesy afforded to the deputation, the deputation
withdrew, much gratified by the manner in which
they had been received.

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