The Sun.
London, England, 1861-06-19 00:00:00

TERRY'S RIFLES.

Mr. BERKELEY asked the Under Secretary of State
for War why Terry's breech-loading rifles, ordered for the
use of the 18th Hussars, had not been delivered ?

Mr. T. G. BARING said that some alteration was re-
quired in the bands of the rifles in question. That alteration
was being made, and they would then be delivered.
PRIZE MONEY (INDIA).

Sir H. VERNEY asked the Secretary of State for India
whether interest was paid by the Calcutta Treasury on the
prize money paid into it ; whether any interest was paid on
jewels and other booty before it was realised ; and whether,
in future, when booty was taken in India, which it was an-
ticipated would be prize, officers in command of corps were
to send in at once the nominal roll, without waiting for the
royal warrant declaring such booty to be prize.
Sir C. WOOD said that interest was paid on the prize
money which had been paid into the Calcutta Treasury, at
the rate of 5 per cent. (Hear, hear.) Interest was not
allowed on jewels and booty before they were realised ; and
so much inconvenience had been experienced from officers

not sending in their prize rolls—which it was supposed
their own interest would have rendered them prompt in
doing—that a general order had been issued to the effect
that prize-rolls should in all cases be immediately sent in,
even though the property should not eventually be made
prize. (Hear, hear.)

PESTH.
Mr. GRIFFITH asked the Secretary of State for Foreign
Affairs whether, as the British Government had no consul
or consular agent at Pesth, they were not, since the with-
drawal of Mr. Dunlop, deprived of any source of official
information from that city ; and whether, from the improve-
ment of our commercial relations, as well as to obtain trust-
worthy information from that country, it was the intention
of her Majesty's Government to appoint such consul.
Lord J. RUSSELL was understood to say that our com-
mercial relations with Pesth were not sufficient to justify
the appointment of a consul.
BLONDIN.
Sir G. LEWIS communicated to the house a letter which
the Home-office had received from the directors of the
Crystal Palace, in answer to the request which the Govern-
ment had made to them on the subject of M. Blondin's
exhibition with a child. The directors, in obedience to the
wish thus conveyed to them, had interdicted this part of
M. Blondin's performance. (Cheers.)
DENMARK AND SCHLESWIG-HOLSTEIN.
Lord R. MONTAGU moved that an humble address be
presented to her Majesty, praying that she would be graci-
ously pleased to take such measures as might be necessary
to prevent any foreign interference with the ancient here-
ditary rights of succession in the kingdom of
Denmark and the duchies of Schleswig-Holstein. The
noble lord complained of the persecution which was going
on in the duchies. Baron Schleinitz had stated that the
right resistance was the remedy for all political grievances,
and Mr. Ward, writing from Leipzic, said that the present
state if the question threatened the peace of Europe. All
this had arisen from one illegal act, that of interfering with
the rights of states and doing away with their fundamental
laws. All public meetings were forbidden, the press was
gagged, and the right of petition itself was denied. The very
name of Schleswig-Holstein was forbidden ; and all the so-
cieties which bore it, including Bible societies, insurance
societies, and scientific and literary societies were suppressed.
The order of Schleswig. Holstein knighthood—an order
similar to that of the knights of Malta—had been abolished.
Danish officials were forced upon courts of law, churches,
and schools ; and two families who had clubbed together to
employ a German tutor had been obliged to send him away.
Even in the schools the books supplied were written in bad
German, and contained immoral sentiments and incorrect
representations of events. Again, in the lunatic asylum
the German doctors had been replaced by Danish doctors,
and the German chaplain by a Danish chaplain. All these
measures were taken to preserve what was called the integ-
rity of the monarchy. The country was perfectly well aware
of the intentions of the Government, and in 1838 the Diet
of Schleswig drew up an address to the King, in which they
stated that the object was to incorporate Schleswig with
Denmark, but they would never consent to it. He should
attempt to prove that the union of Schleswig and Holstein
had existed from the most ancient times; and, secondly,
. that along with the union there was one coutinned struggle
to incorporate the duchies with the kingdom of Demerit.
Five hundred years ago the Duchies of Schleswig and Hol-
stein were connected, and in the tinat, of Our Edward Vl.
Christian I. was elected King of Denmark, and afterwards
he became hereditary reigning duke of Schleswig and Hol-
stein ; but he had to swear that he would maintain the
union and the separate natural existence of Schleswig and
Holstein. The oath was promulgated in 1826, and had
been sworn by every succeeding ruler to the present day.
The kingdom of Denmark was an elective monarchy till
Frederic 111. came to the throne in 1603. He put an end
to the elective character of the monarchy, but did not in-
terfere with the duchies. The Salic law, however, always
prevailed in the duchies, but not in Denmark. England
and Hanover furnished a parallel case. The Salle law pre-
vailed in Hanover, but not in England, and when the pre-
sent Queen succeeded to the throne of England a male branch
of the family succeeded to the throne of Hanover. The
King of Denmark, however, had broken that law for the
sake of preserving the integrity of the monarchy. In 1843
Prince Frederic of Hesse married a daughter of the Em-
rsiecideuith.
peror Nicholas, who immediately set to work to obtain for
himb not only the succession to the kingdom of Denmark,
riengSathliec Klainwg
against. this, and applied.
vuattleadlso to the duchies, notwithstanding the Salk law pre-
patentisenttuhe duchies. The King of Denmark issued letters
issued a decurgeea to the German Confederation, who
The duchies
Denmark
kes
to
oproretevsotkede
these letters patent. The King of De
letters patent, dated BthSept.9lB4,3,inwnaahrkh issued other
to explain the former ones, and declared
that
tetehne unionvdeao
Schleswig and Holstein should be preserved, and in
January of
ured
1848, the king declared that the duchies should be p,
e
served as an independent state, but from that day he bad
endeavoured by administration to incorporate the duchies
with Denmark. On the 20th of March the Danish ministry
resigned, and a ministry which was popular with the mob
succeeded, whose object was to make the duchies a Danish
province.
The duchies became aware of this, and issued a
manifesto, in which they declared that while they continued
their allegiance to the king, they were determined to up..
hold the fundamental laws of the kingdom, In 1849 the
King of Prussia sent an army into the duchies, but before
he did so he wrote an autograph letter to the Duke of Au-
gustenburg, urging him to maintain by every means in his
power the rights of his country, and pkom;',sing him the sup-
port of Prussia... Shortly afterwards the reaction ea 14 at
Berlin, and the Hantenffel Ministry came in, which was
looked upon in Prussia as devoted to Russia. A treaty was
297'11 CANON.
entered into. There was a secret article in that treaty which The Bishop of Oxreab said he wioiod king linger
was not in the documents presented to this house. He had notice of their Lordships the alterations which the Lower.
got the original document in his hands, The secret article Rouse had made in the 29th cam, as mewled by the

The Bishop of LONDON said he had brought the matter
under their Lordships' notice, knowing that it had received
the grave consideration of the Lower House, and he should
be sorry to find that no one agreed with the Lower House
in the conclusion to which they had come. Many of the un-
fortunate alsputeb wliiuh had talus piano in various parishes
owed their origin to the hymn-books which were in use, or
" hymnals," as they are called. It was desirable, if possible,
that there should be some mode of removing those disputes,
and it was to secure that object that the Bishops were for •
wally appealed to to sanction a hymn-book for general use.
The Lower House did not ask that the thingshould be done,
but simply that a c6mmittee should be appointed to con-
sider it.

The Bishop of WINCHESTER said the appointment of a
committee would induce the belief that something beneficial
would arise out of it, which he scarcely thought could be
the case.

The Bishop of LICHFIELD considered that doctrine was
taught as much by hymns as by other means. Wesleyans
had but one hymn-book for their whole body, and wherever
they went, even across the Atlantic, there they found it.
He was once at the Land's-end when a seafaring man told
him that that was where John Wesley wrote his celebrated
hymn. He asked, " What hymn ?" and the man said,
" Why, the hymn on page 16 in the book. (Laughter.) He
believed that many of the clergy would consider such a
general hymn -book a great boon to their parishes.
The Bishop of LINCOLN did not think the importance of
the question could be exaggerated, and that as the Church
had one prayer-book, it should have one hymn-book, to be
used wherever worshippers met together; but he feared that
co appoint a Committee would be only to raise hopes which
there would be no reasonable chance of fulfilling, especially
when he remembered that at the present time there were at
least 300 different hymn-books, that each had its compiler,
in many cases a living compiler, and that each compiler
had a publisher, friends, and attached congregations. In

many congregations there was as much attachment to the
hymn-book as to the prayer -book. Under these circum-
stances he did not think that a hymn. book emanating from
Convocation would have a chance of taking the place of any
of those now in use.
After some further discussion,
The Bishop of LICHFIELD moved that his Grace the Pre-
sident be requested to intimate that while the Upper House
was fully sensible of the importance of thesilbject, they 4if4 not at present think it advisable to recommend his Grace to
appoint a Committee. This resolution was unanimously
agree,

THE UPPER HOUSE.
The Archbishop and Bishops composing the Upper House
assembled in the Board-room of Queen Anne's Bounty-
office. The Archbishop of Canterbury presided, and there
were also present the Bishops of London, Winchester, Lich-
field, Oxford, St. Asaph, Chichester, Lincoln, Glocester
and Bristol, Bath and Wells, and Salisbury. Mr. Francis
Hart Dyke, the registrar, and Mr. Felix Knyvett, the Arch-
bishop's secretary, were also in attendance.
PROPOSED NEW CHURCH. HYMNAL.
The Bishop of LONDON called attention to a request on
the part of the Lower House of Convocation to the effect
that his Grace the Archbishop and their Lordships would
appoint a committee to act with a committee of the Lower
House to consider the propriety of authorising a book of
hymns and metrical psalms for the use of the Church.
The Bishop of OXFORD said he must deprecate the ap-
pointment of such a committee. There had been hitherto
great liberty in the Church of England with regard to this
matter, and the loss of it, he thought, would be deeply felt.
He thought it was perfectly manifest that there was no-
thing which touched so quickly the religious feelings of all
Christian people as psalms and hymns, and nothing to
which people would be more instinctively alive than taking
from them the freedom they at present enjoyed in refer-
ence to this act of public worship. He, of course, consi-
dered it a great misfortune that there was such a diversity
with regard to the books of psalms and hymns now in
use in our churches, and he believed that the only way
of escaping from the action of that misfortune was by
bringing more together the religious feelings and expres-
sions of their common Church, and by the gradual growth
and more general use of that which was dearest to all.
It was only by the principle of willing selection that
any such aid could be obtained. Deeply as he desired
to see more unity, he did not think that at the present
time, and under present circumstances, any attempt of this
sort would bring about the result which was anticipated.
He hoped, therefore, that the prayer of the petition would
be postponed.
The Archbishop of CANTERBURY said he agreed entirely
with what the Bishop of Oxford had said. He thought their
Lordships would do well to send a message to the Lower
House, stating that they did not consider it desirable to
accede to the suggestion which had been made.
Tho Bishop of WINCHESTER thought it would be exceed-
ingly difficult to find any hymn-book which would give
general satisfaction to the Church.
The Bishop of SALISBURY said he must vote against any
attempt on the part of Convocation to set about this matter.
He was most eager to maintain the present prayer-book
without alteration in any way, and he thought that liberty
in other matters tended to maintain the prayer-book in its
integrity. If they determined now to set about producing
a new hymn-book, they would find that they had not the
materials for it.