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London, England, 1857-03-11 00:00:00

mittee were appointed to consider the whole question and.
if it were understood that the estimates for 1858 and 1859
should not be produced till thi t committee had reported-
He had heard with surprise and alarm. suggestions for
nieetin the expe,nditure in time of peace, by resc.rting to
credit • be trusted that such a course would never be sane-
tionedby the house. At the close -of the French. war com-
plaints were made of what was then termed an "ignorant
impatience of taxation" on the part of the public, and
though that phrase had been laughed at, he thought there
was a good deal of reason in the idea it conveyed.
Mr. NEWDEGATE, while contending that full inquiry
was necessary, thought it would be useless to turn the whole
taxation over to a committee in a lump, but urged that
every department should be submitted to a distinct com-
mittee for a rigid investigation, and that the house should
thus resume its power of controlling the lavish expenditure
which he admitted to exist. He as much as any one re- '
gretted the increase of expenditure alluded to by previous
speakers, but if they were determined to substitute paid
for unpaid officer 4, and to rteprive the people of the power
of local self-government, they would not only depart from
a wise and constitutional system of government, but would
find an increase of expenditure inevitable.
Mr. DISRAELI did not think they ought to talk about
what they intended to do in the next Parliament. Be
hoped the next Parliament would be a vigorous one, fresh
from the embraces of the people--(laughter)—and he trusted
the suggestion of the hon. member for Sandal would not be
adopted, because that would be simplyremoving the duties
of the Government to a committee. He protested against
the principle. A committee to prepare the estimates was
the very last resource. The estimates ought to be prepared
by the Government and defended by the Government. Se
hoped that the new Parliament would hold the Governmi .
to the due performance of their duties,
Sir H. WILLOUGHBY said that from what had fallen
from the Chancellor of the Exchequer he thought they had-
to prepare for either a reduced expenditure or increased
taxes. In a few years there would be a reduction on the
income tax of four millions and a half, and that must of
course be either made up or they must have reduced ex-
penditure. _

The amendment was then negatived without* division,
and the report was received.
EXTRA.-PAROeHIAL PLACES BILL.
On the motion for going into committee on this bill,
Sir G. PECHELL objected to its being proceeded with.
The house then went into committee on the bill.
On clause 1 being proposed,
Sir G. PEC HELL complained bitterly of the proceeding
of the Poor-law Board. Ever since the present President
of the Poor-law Board had been in office he had been in •
constant collision with the various boards of guardians
throughout the country. There was nothing connected
with the poor law which the right hon. geotleman put his
hand to that he succeeded in. He moved that the chairman
should report progress.
Mr. BARROW was anxious that the objects of this bill
should be carried out; but he thought it ought to be left
to the new Parliament.

Mr. BOUYERIE said the bill, which was to make ex-."
tra-parochial places contribute to the relief of the poor,
had received general approval, and he was anxious to pass
it in the present Parliament.
Mr. MALINS thought the bill had not received that
general support which the right hon. gentleman had inti-
mated.

Sir H. WILLOUGHBY hoped the bill would not be
proceeded with in the present session. He objected to the
bill because it gave increased power to the most detestable
commission that ever existed in this country—the Poor
Law Board.

Mr. MALINS thought the bill was not of immediate,
necessity, and therefore it ought not to be persevered in.
Mr. SMYTHE also objected to proceeding with the bill.
Lord PALMERSTON said the bill had been specially
appointed for that evening, and therefore he trusted the
bill would be allowed to pass this stage.
After some further conversation the amendment WAS,
withdrawn, and the remaining clauses were agreed to and,
tho house resumed.

The Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction Bill, the Customs Duties
Bill, the Indemnity Bill, the Copyhold and Inclosure
Commissioners, &c. Bill, and the Municipal Corporations
Act Amendment Bill, were read a second time.
POST HORSE DUTY BILL.
On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE!
QUER this bill was read a first time.
The house adjourned at 20 minutes past 10 o'clock..