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of the events in America, anti I should hopo that our Cus- •
toms duties will not materially suffer.
Mr. DISH &ELl—Sir, in moving that these resolutions
be reported to the house, it is important to know what these
resolutions are. I understand that 5 and S have been with-
drawn (The Chancellor of the Exchequer explained.) Mr
Disraeli proceeded—ln respect to resolution No. 4, which
passed in a remarkably thin house, and which related to
the paper duty, I wish to say that it did not pass un-
observed, but I thought it wise for the convenience of the
house that the resolution should pass, and that I should
reserve to myself, and to any other member of the
house, the right to take exception to it at any future
stage, and the Chancellor of the Exchequer accepted
that. I would remark that, from the manner in
which it has been brought forward, the opportunity which
the house will have of expressing its opinion will be very
much curtailed, while as regards the other house that
opportunity will be wholly abolished. Considering these
circumstances we ought to proceed with unusual delibera-
tion. I should also like to know when it is intended to re-
port the resolutions to the house, when the bill will be
brought in, and what is the course of business contemplated ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—Sir, the
course I propose to take is this. I stated on the part of the
Government that it was thought best for the convenience
of the house, and best adapted to present circumstances to
bring all the main features of the financial plan under the
view of the house at once, and that at the close of the com-
mittee I should move for leave to introduce a bill treating
the whole as one measure ; that all the main features might
be treated consecutively, and in connection. The inconveni-
ence of the contrary course was shown last year, when the
hon. member for Sontersetshire, in opposing the repeal of
the paper duties, was obliged to make constant reference to
the income.t AX, though not in the same bill, and though it
had already been passed. Government, however, regarded
the main features of this plan as being essentially one,
though consisting of several parts ; though some minor
points, not essentially of the general plan, will be treated
separately. I understand the question of the honourable
gentleman to be what course I propose to take ? My reply
to that is, that it is thought advisable, in order to meet
the wants of the public service, to prosecute this mea-
sure to as early a settlement as is consistent with the
convenience of the house. Considering that these
plans had been before the country for three weeks, he
hoped that the house would be prepared to take the mea-
sure into consideration as early as possible, and he pro-
posed to move tomorrow (this day) that the resolutions
be reported, and would then move for leave to bring in a
bill, the second reading of which he would fix for Thursday.
Mr. DISRAELI thought that would be pressing the
matter with undue precipitation, and thought that Monday
would be a more fitting day for the second reading of the
bill, as it might probably happen that there would be some
discussion on the bringing up of the report.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
the most convenient course would be to move to-morrow
(this day) the bringing up of the report, and he would
then state what day he would be prepared to move for the
second reading. At the same time it was most important
for the public service that the plans should be definitively
settled as soon as possible.
Mr. DISRAELI said there could be no pressure with

respect to public business in connection with the principal
features of the financial proposition, as the duties on tea,

and sugar, and paper, were not proposed to cease at present.
He again deprecated the proceeding with undue precipita-
tion in dealing with these measures. If ever there was a
time when it behoved the House to proceed with delibera-
tion it was in the case of these resolutions, when it was
proposed to deprive the House of Commons of some of ibs

constitutional privileges in discussing measures of finance,
and in depriving the House of Lords of all power of revi-
sion in the matter.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER repeated
his determination to move the report of the resolutions to-
morrow, and would have the bill printed, and be in the
hands of members on Wednesday. That bill would include
the provisions of the tea and sugar duties, the paper duty,
and the income tax, and probably the resolution relating to
chicory.
Mr. MASSEY then left the chair, and the house re-
sumed, with cheers from the Ministerial side, at the com-
pletion of this stage of progress in the Budget.
On the report of Supply being brought up,
Mr. HENNESSY said it was generally the practice to
postpone the discussion of the civil service estimates until a
late period of the session. Last session, for instance, these
estimates were discussed at the close, when, the house
being nearly empty, the Government were enabled to secure
a majority. During the recess, sixty members had pressed
the noble lord at the head of the Government as to the
propriety of making reductions in the votes, and they were
told in reply to attend to their business in the house, and
to prevent the estimates from being taken at a late period
of the session. When he (Mr. Hennessy) made a motion
upon these estimates, the sixty members in question all
voted for enabling the Government to postpone the discus-
sion on them until the close of the session. (Hear.) lie
begged to move that the resolution with regard to the civil
service estimates be read a second time that day fortnight.
The 31" waked whether the lion. member ob-
jected to any particular vote? •
Mr. HENNESSY replied in the negative. He only ob-
jected to the taking of any vote on account at present, it
being desirable to consider the question more fully at some
future time.

Lord PA LMERSTON hoped the hon. gentleman would
not persist in his motion. The money was required to pay
the immediate demands of the service. So far from the
Goveinment wishing to postpone these estimates until a
late period of the session, there was every desire to bring
them on as soon as possible.
After a few words from Lord J. MANNERS,

Mr. PEACOCK asked when the miscellaneous estimates
would be brought forward. These were a class of estimates
which it was necessary to inspect, and in which a judicious
reduction might be made. But it was most desirable that
they should not be postponed to a late period of the session,
when the greater number of persons present were usually
the supporters of the Government.

Mr. F. PEEL said that the civil service estimates now
sought for were only sufficient to meEt the necessary expen-
d ture to the end of the month, and that there were bAlances
which he anticipated would be sufficient to enable the Go-
vernment to meet the general engagements of the service
until .he votes were duly considered and passed.
Mr. HENNESSY having withdrawn his amendment,
the report of Supply was agreed to.
COPYRIGHT (WORKS OF ART) BILL.

On the motion for the second reading of this bill,
Mr. WALTER said that by the third clause any person
purchasing a picture after the passing of this Act would net
be allowed to permit a friend to t tike a copy of it, or himself
to have it engraved, which was an infringement on the
natural liberty of the subject. So far as the protection of
artists from real piracy went, he would cordially support a
proposition to carry out the object; but he could not con-
sent to the principle that an artist should have a copyright
in his picture as against the purchaser of it. In committee
he should certainly move an amendment on, the clause.
Lord FERMOY thought that the bill went too far.
When a work of art was sold the copyright should go with
it, and to enact to the contrary would affect the interests of
the artists themselves, as the sale of their works would be
restricted by such a provision as that contained in the bill.
Mr. LAYARD advised the Attorney-General and artists
to consider well before they consented to the passing of this
bill. There were various things in the bill altogether be-
yond the reach of the law. No one could imitate the idea
suggested by a picture without exposing himself to penalties
under this bill. The bill would throw art altogether into
the hands of traders.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL, in answering the obser-
vations which had been made on the bill, said that in the
first place he must observe that the hon. member for Berk-
shire had not distinguished between the purchaser of the
work of art and the purchaser of the copyright of it. If a
person bought the picture merely, he had a right to enjoy it,
but not to multiply copies; just as the man who bought a
book had a right to the book, but not to multiply copies of
it. (Hear.) In conclusion, the hon. member might be able
to argue the question whether the idea or conception could
be rendered matter of copyright. The member must be
familiar with the language by which the original concep-
tion was considered as that which made the original concep-
tion. As to the possibility of copying parts, it was a com-
mon thing that pictures were found in which a part was
borrowed from one picture and a part from another, and
then the entire work was put forward as original. He
hoped the house would carry the second reading of the pre •
sent bill, which was the first attempt to give to the artist a
protection which he had in every other country in Europe.
The argument that the artist was best without protection
would, if true, apply equally to the author, yet the author
had more complete protection here than in other countries.
The artist appealed to the highest faculties of human intel-
ligence, and why should they deny him a protection which
was given to literature ? He was sure no one would say
that the Copyright Act had been injurious to literature.
The bill was then read a second time.
The house adjourned at a quarter-pasf 12 o'clock.

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