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SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY EVE.NING AUGIUSr 412, 1857,

of the Treasury, whether there was any truth in the
rumour that, in compliance with an application from the
Government of France, the Government of this country
would expel some of the French refugees who have
sought an asylum in this country ?
Lord PALMERSTON said his answer first was that
no such application had bean made to her Majesty's
Government—(hear, hear)—by the Government of
France. His next answer was something like the ex-
cuse given by a parish for not ringing the bells on the
restoration of Charles 11., that they had none to ring—
(laughter)—that the Government had no power to expel
them. (Hear, hear.)

lord referred to the good conduct of the honge

(laughter)—in disposing of public business, and he wished
then to express through them to the country the fat
that the members sent to the new Parliament had not
been unfaithful representatives, or neglectful of their
duties. He congratulated them on there having been
fewer irregularities during the last election than usual
in reference to bribery, &c., and that during the short
session of three months hon. members had actively, per-
severingly, carefully, and successfully attended to the
business before them. (Cheers.)

The bill was then read a third time and passed amidst
cheers.

SALE OF OBSCENE BOORS, &a., PREVENTION

BILL.

This bill was read a third time and passed.
The Lord amendments to the Burials Acts Amend-
ment Bill, Probates and Letters of Administration
B:11, and Ecclesiastical Commissions Bill, were considered
and agreed to.

RETURNS.
Several unopp6sed returns were granted.
ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE.

Lord PALAIERSTON moved the adjournment of
the House till Monday at 3 o'clock.
PERSIAN EXPEDITION.

Colonel SYKES asked the President of the Board of
Control, whether it was the intention of her Majesty's
Government to confer upon the officers of the Persian
expedition the customary testimonials of approval of
the successful military operations, in brevets, honours,
and a medal?

ar. -v. SMITH said that the distinctions to be
awarded must be left with the Government ; after
ceiving recommendations from the Governor-General
of India through the Court of Directors ; and on that
depended when they would be granted.
THE NOTICE PAPER,.

Mr. GRIFFITH submitted ti the Speaker the ques-
tion, whether when an important amendment placed;upon
the notice paper was subsequently altered in its leading
principle, it would not be desirable that some note of
such change should be appended to it.
The SPEAKER said he thoug,ht it would create
great difficulty and complications to adopt the course
suggested. He thought also it was not too much to
expect from every hon. member that he read the notice
paper each day.
The motion was then agreed to and the House ad-
journed at half-past three o'clock.

SUMMER ASSIZES.

NORTHERN CIRCUIT.-LIVERPOOL, Aug. 21

CIVIL COURT.
(Before Mr. Baron Chant el]. and a Special Jury.)

THE QUEEN V. SPENCE.

This was an indictment for a nuisance, removed
by certiorari, and brought down to be tried on the
civil side. The defendant pleaded " Not Guilty."
Mr. Wilde, Q.C., Mr. Monk, Q.C., Mr. Asp-
land, and Mr. Owens appeared on behalf of the
prosecution ; Sir F. Thesiger, Q.C., (specially re-
tained), Mr. Atherton, Q.C., Mr. Hill, Q.C., and
Mr. Manisty, Q C., for the defendant.
The defendant, it appeared, is a manufacturing
chymist, carrying on the mannfacture of alum at
Pendleton, near Manchester, and from the tall
chimney of his works issues a white vapour
of an exceedingly offensive character. It was de-
scribed by the witnesses as " pungent, foetid, and
offensive." Some described it as having the smell
of "rotten eggs," and others s iid it smelt like
" Harrogate water," his Lordship remarking that
this was two similes for the same thing. One of
the witnesses said the vapour " set his teeth on
edge."
Sir F. Thesiger, in cross-examination, asked him
if it injured his appetite 7
The witness replied, " No."
Sir F. Thesiger—Then it was rather an advant-
age to you, as it sharpened your tooth ? (Laughter.)
This pungent stench was described as pervading
the houses in the neighbourhood of the defendant's
works and for a mile round it, producing a sensa-
tion of nausea, and. giving the children sore throats.
After various ineffeotual attempts to come to an
arrangement as to the future management of the
works and the abatement of the nuisance the else
went on, and is likely to occupy a very cunsidorable
time, there being a large boily of witnesses yet to
examine.

CROWN COURT.
(Before Mr. Baron Watson.)
Bridget Cochrane was indicted for the murder of
Margaret Cochrane, at Liverpool, on the 21st of
DecQ:ntbar last. _

Thera was also a second indictment against the
prisoner for the murder of Catherine Cochrane, b 4th
of them children of the prisoner, agel 6 years and 4
years respe3tively.
Mr. Aspinall and Mr. E. M. Fenwick conducted
the prosecution; Mr. Davison (assigned by the
Court) defended the prisoner.
The prisoner, who had recer tly given birth to
a child in the gaol, earnestly p6rsiatecliu taking har
trial this assizes, in spite of the humane obj,ctions
entertained by the learned judge, who this morning
desired that she might remain FoatFd.
The charge against the prisoner was that she had
poisoned her two children by administering to them
oxalic acid in buttermilk.

It appeared that she and her husband, who was
a dock labourer, and the two children, lodged in a
room iu St. Martin's-street, and that on Saturday,
the 20th of December, she returned home after her
usualselling
fish, and proceeded to
boil
some avocet o potatoesnof for
lier children, at the same
i time sending the elder child, Margaret, to a neigh-
bouring shop for a candle and half a pint of butter-
m'lk, „d upon
i the d's return the prisoner
divided the milk n' o two portions, which the child-
renclw
drank with the potatoes. These circumstances
were deposed to by the landlady of the helve, who
left the children eating, but did not observe that the
mother took any part of the milk herself. The land-
lady having gone out to market the prisoner end
her two chilli en were seen about 11,1 f an hour after-
w3r Is go'ng up the stairs to bed by a lodger, whose
room was oposite to that of the prisone7. The
children at that time walked upstai:s and ap-
peared
perfectly well and healthy, and the pri-
soner was seen to leave her own room and go
downstairs, taking the candle away with her. In
about an hour's time the landlady returned and
found the prisoner alone and seated by the fire iu
the kitchen, and in about 20 minutes one of the
lodgers ran down exclaiming that the roams up-
stairs were filed wi,th. smoke, upon which the pri-
soner at once xe•alrne'.l " Oh, my children arc
dead," and hurried upstairs and was afterwards met
coming out of her room with her eldest child in her
arms quite dead, and, handing it to one of the
lodgers, she returned and brought out the second
child, who died Ivery shortly afLerwards. There
were no mexks of violence upon either of the hod Cs,
nor were their chemises at all burnt. Assistance
having been obtained the people in the house went
into the prisoner's bedroom, and there they found
a bed on which the parents_ generally slept, and
which lay on the floor, completely burnt frim the
centre of it through the floor and ceiling of the room
underneath, while the 'd on which the children
slept, at the opposite corner or the room, remained
untouched. The beds were composed of shaving,,
and consequently easily ignited. An inquest was
then h-Ad. upon the bother of the children, and the
ch:cumstance of Cie prisoner and her husbind hav-
ing suddenly withdrawn after the first day's in-
quiry, and the suddenness of the death of the chil-
dren aroused various suspicions, which ended in a
post-mortem examination, the result of which was
that 42 grains of oxalic acid were detected in the
body of the elder child, and 20 grains in that of the
younger child, a quantity, in the opinion of various
medical witnesses, amply sufficient to account for
death, assuming that a large portion of the dose
had been absorbed into the sytem,
After a very long and elaborate examination and
cross-examination of the medical witnesses, who
were unable to speak with any certainty as to the
time at which the poison was administered.
The learned judge, who had, previously enter-
tained some doubt as to the sufficiency of the evi-
dence, interfered, and inquired whether the counsel
for the prosecution were prepared with any evidence
that the woman had ever been proved to have had
poison in her possession, and on being answered in
the negative at once stopped the case, adding that
no doubt there were circumstances of grave sus-
picion against the prisoner ; and by his lordship's
direction, a verdict of "Not guilty was taken upon
both indic' monis.
Tho prisoner, who had left her house suddenly
immediately after the pos mortetet examination
had commenced, was, after a vain search, ulti-
mately taken into custody in Irel and in April last.

or whether they would be justified in convicting
him only of the lesser offence of wounding with
intent to do grievous bodily harm. The learned
counsel then proceeded to narrate the circumstances
under which the offence was committed, and said
that, the magistrate by whom the prisoner was sent
for trial having made a communication to the Se-
cretary of State that it was a fit case to be taken up
by the Government, he and his learned friend were
instructed by the solicitor to the Treasury to con-
duct the prosecution.
The following witnesses were then examined :

Mr. Richard Thompson said—l am a solicitor,
and have acted in that capacity for the prisoner.
I accompanied him to the Queen's Prison on the
Bth of July, to see Mr. Robertson. Mr. Gower
went with us. I had some conversation with Mr.
Robertson before the prisoner came into the room.
He was sitting in an arm chair with his back to the
window, and I was sitting on his left side. The
prisoner came into the room, and was standing
about five feet from Mr. Robertson, in front of
him. The prisoner drew nearer to Mr. Robertson,
and it-appeared to me that he struck him with his
fist. Thera was an angry feeling between the
prisoner and Mr. Robertson on the subject of
the debt, the latter denying that he owed it.
' The prisoner struck him four or five times
on the cheek, the right side, the temple, and the
shoulder, and he fell to the ground, and I observed
blood flowing from bis person. De Salvi and Mr.
Gower then left the room, and I went up to Mr.
Robertson and supported him.
Cross-examined—l have been the prisoner's at-
torney since 1850. He has been a valet, and I
understood he had saved a little money. Ho brought
me some bills of exchange to sue upon, and Ro-
bertson appeared to be his debtor for 2001., and he
requested me to make some arrangement with De
Salvi and Gower, and I sent for De Salvi for that
purpose, and Gower accompanied us to the QuFen's
Prison. Robertson said to Gower that he did not
owe any money to De Salvi, and an altercation
arose between the partieS. I have understood that
the prisoner has lost 9001. that he had saved, and
he told Robertson that he had had his money and
he had nothing to do with looking after anyone
else. De Salvi was greatly irritated at this time.

Mr. Wild said—At the time of this transaction I
was an inmate of the Queen's Prison, and. I saw the
prisoner and Mr. Gower go towards Mr. Robert-
son's room, and immediately afterwards I heard a
scuffle in bis room ; the prisoner and Mr. Gower
came out together and walked along the corridor.
I then went into Mr. Robertson'sroom, and found
him bleeding and. wounded. I went in the direc-
tion the prisoner had gone, and picked. up the
knife now produced, with blood on it and the point
broken off, about five yards from Mr. Robertson's
room. After this I saw the prisoner and said to
him, " You are Da Salvi, you are the assassin."
He made no answer, but started back.
Mr. C. R. Manson said—l was in the Queen's
Prison in June last, and I remember about that
time seeing the prisoner and Robertson together,
and the prisoner was speaking about a debt doe to
to him upon a bill for 2001., and he said that if some
satisfactory proposal were not made to him respect-
ing that debt he would have his life. I told the
prisoner it was a very s?rious expression, and I
should take particular notice of it, and should not
leave the room unless Mr. Robertson required it,
and I remained until De Salvi left. I remember
hearing a cry of murder from Mr. Robertson's room
on the day this happened, and I wont out immedi-
ately and saw the prisoner in the passage below
leading to the yard. I recognised him as the person
who made the threat previously, and I laid hold of
him and asked him if he did net recollect me. He
said he did not, and I told him I remembered him
very well, and should not release him until I handed
him over to the police. _ _

THIRD COURT.

Joseph Mull, 40, schoolmaster, was indicted for
stealing a bank note of the value of 50!., and three
other bank notes, e tch of the value of 5/., the
property of George Bailey Tuson, in a dwelling-
house.

Mr. Giffard and Mr. T. Salter prosecuted, and
Mr. Ribton defended.

The learned Counsel having briefly detailed the
circumstances of the case, called—
The Rev. Herbert Tuson—l live at Wick, near
Bath. During the months of September and
November last I was staying at Little Stanmore,
Middlesex, doing duty for my uncle, who is rector
of the-parish. The rectory being let I was staying
at the house of the prisoner; who is the National
schoolmaster of Little Stanmore, and lives at the
schoolhouse. The only persons in the house besides
myself were prisoner, his wife, and a servant, who
slept out of the house. Upon the 6th of Novem-
ber Sir Henry Ellis, who occupied the rectory, paid
me for my uncle, 671. 4s. There were four notes,
one 50/.. and three 5/. notes, which I put into my
desk and locked. Upon the following day I went
out to dinner, and before going I leotred to see if
the desk was safe, and found it so. I left it upon the
table in the sitting-room. I came home about
half-past eleven and let myself in with a latch key.
When I came in I thought the desk had been mov-
ed, but finding the window untouched I took no
further notice. The family were all gone to bed.
Upon the next morning the prisoner came into my
room and asked if I had left my desk locked. I
said "Yes." He then said, "It is open." I dressed
and went into the sitting-room, and I found that
the desk had been forced and the notes and money
were gone. The man was in some confusion in the
room, and the drawers were open. A valuable silver
communion service, which my uncle had 1. nt me,
was in those drawers, but had not been disturbed.
The prisoner said he had lost some things of
trifling value. - There were no marks outside of the
window to show that any one had entered the
room from outside.

Cross-examined—l don't know what Mr. Robert-
son said in reply to the prisoner's threat of taking
his life. Mr. Robertson appeared very much in-
timidated at the prisoner's conduct. Mr. Re-
bartxn had also been endeavouring to get
released from h's debts iu one of the Scotch
Courts, but was unsuccessful, chiefly, as I under-
stood, on account of the opposition to the proceed-
ing that was instituted by the prisoner and Mr.
Gower.
Mr. William Bell said=l was over the room
occupied by Mr. Robertson on the day in question.
and I heard a noise and a cry of "Murder !" and
the prisoner came out followed by Mr. Gower, and
th9y ran along the passage as fast as they could.
Mr. Gower said " Oh !" and shuddered when he
came out of the room as if horror-struck. I saw
the prisoner after this, and told him he should riGt
go ; he was one of the parties, and he replied,
"Oh, what is it ?"
Mr. Colyiqe, the chief turnkey
_et the prison,
said,—On the clay this matter happened I herd the
alarm and took the prisoner into custody. He was
surrounded by a great many people, and there was
a cry of ".He did it." The prisoner was taken into
one of the rooms, and he then said, "I did it, and
Mr. Gower had nothing to do with it." He then
male an effort to speak to Mr. Gow,T, but he sail,
"Don't speak to me." I was present when the
deposition of Mr. Robertson was taken in the pre-
Bence of Mr. Combo, the magistrate. •
_ _

Cioa-examioed.--I told the prisoner I did no
know the number of the notes.

Mr. Bayley, from the Bank of England, proved
that two notes'' one for 501. and another for 501.,
came from Mr. Bennett, and one for 51. from
Messrs. Routledge.
Sir Henry Ellis proved paying the notes to the
Rev. Herbert Tuson, at the School-house at Stan-
more.

Cross-examined---t tld ITSIr. Robertson that
Manson bal. AAted in his evidence that ha was pre-
sent when Dc Salvi threvtened 'take his life, and
ha denied that anything of the sort had ever taken
place.

Mr. Wakem, the surgeon of the Queen's Prison,
said that he saw Mr. Robertson about half-an-hour
after the fatal occurrence, and found him suffering
from four wounds, one in the face, one on the cohar
bone, one on the temple, and another on the nape
of the neck. The last was the most dangerous
wonad of Vie four. Paralys's total on one side
and partially on the othe7., had supervened, and
Mr. Robertson was in a very dangerous state.. He
was of opinion that the broken portion of the kn:fe
still remained in the wound in the) nape of the
neck. _ _

The depositions made by the prosecutor were
then put in and read. The first was as follows :
'• I am a gentleman. I know the prisoners De Salvi
and Gower. I am detained at the Queen's Prison at the
suit of Do Salvi. About 2 o'clock yesterday t:se two
prisoners and a Mr. Thompson (a solicitor) came to Me
at the prison. I was in conversation with Da Salvi,
when he drew out a dagger in his right hand, and he
truck me with it on the side of the face. While I sat
in the chair he struck me again on the face, and I fell
on the ground. I had a struggle with hi .n then, and he
struck me three times with the same instrument on the
neck and back. I am now suffering from the effects of
the blows. I never met Gower till yesterday. I had
seen him befere at his place of business. Gower did not
strike me. After De Salvi had struck me twice, Gower
said, `Give it the villain,' and then Da Salvi struck me
three times with the weapon. Gower is one of my de-
taining creditors."
This deposition was made on the day after the
affsir happened. The prosecutor subsequently
made another deposition, pretty much to the same
effect, which was also read.
This closed the case for the prosecution.
_ Mr. James then made a brief appeal to the jury
on behalf of the prisoner. He said it would be hope-
less upon the facts before them to expect that they
could come to any milder conclusion than that
When the prisoner made the attack upon the prose-
cutor he intended, at all events, to do him soma
grievous bodily harm ; but he hoped that when
they looked at all the circumstances of the case they
would feel .themselves justified in convicting the
prisoner upon that count only. The learned
counsel then referred to the facts of the case, and
said he thought it was only due. to Mr. Gower,
whose name had been so painfully mixed up with
the transaction, to state- that it appeared to him
that the evidence contradicted the supposition that
he was aware that the prisoner was using a deadly
weapon, and that it was clear he, as Mr. Thomp-
son did at first, thought that the prisoner was
striking the prosecut.or with his fist. He then
urged upon the jury that there was no evidence
to show that the act was at all premeditated, and
he said there could be very little doubt that the
prisoner, finding that he was likely to lose his
money, all the savings of his life, was suddenly
worked up to an ungovernable fit of passion, and
in the excitement o the moment committed the
offence w:th which ho was charged. in the second
count of the indictment, and that there was not
sufficient evidence to justify them in saying that he
had formed the deliberate intention to murder the
prosecutor.
Lord Granville was then sworn and examined
from the bench. He stated that 14 y,ars ago the
prisoner was in his service and he considered him
an inoffensive, mild-tempered youth at that time,
and had always heard the same character of him
since.
Lord Hardinge gave similar evidence.
The Rev. Mr. Goddard, the'vicar of Eartham,
in whose service the prisoner had been for several
year), also gave him an excellent charact. r.
Several other gentlemen were examined, and they
gave similar evidence. -
Mr. Baron Martin then summed up, and observed
that the learned counsel for the prisoner hating
admitted that the offence imputed to him could not
be reduced below the crime of wounding with intent
to do serious bodily harm, the only points for the
consideraton of the ‘,ttiry were whether- the evi-
denee made out the intent of the prisoner to be to
murder the prosecutor, or whet er there were any
facts in the ceSe which would,warrant them in con-
victing hini of the less serious offence.
The jury retired to deliberate upon their verdict,
and in a few minutes they returned into Court and
found the prover Guilty upon the second con .t,
with intent to do grievous bodily harm. They at
the same time strongly recommended hiin to mercy

Thomas Durrant, an assistant to Messrs. Dobree
and Tomlinson, proved that some man, with a pro-
fivion of hair and beard, came to his employers'
shop at about a quarter to 8 upon the same night.
He gave the name of James Mills. Witness
thought prisoner was that man. He pledged a
watch for 5/.

Stephen Whittaker, of the. firm of Young,
Princes-street, Leicester-square, positively swore
to the prisoner as having pledged another of the
watches between 8 and 9 upon the same evening.
He instantly recognised the prisoner upou seeing
him coming out of the church at Little Stanmore.
Cross-examined—l am quite certain he is the
man. He wore spectacle=, but no beard.
Two assistants from the shop of Mr. Luxniore,
S. Martin's-lane, proved that the prisoner came
upon the same night to pawn a silver watch, but
his appearance and manner exciting a susp:cion
they detained Lim, and inquired the reason of his
being disguised, and he said he was going to the
theatre to have a lark, andsaid that he would leave
them the watch t:.) make inquiries if they wished.
He then went away and never called again. That
was another of the watches obtained from Mr.
Bennett. One of these witnes3es picked the pri-
soner out from among eight or ten .others.
The other evidence, including that of the ser-
geant of the police 191 S, merely proved tra-le g
the watches after the information about the jbannk
notes. -
pointed out
_
Mr.
Ribton, in a very ablespeech,
to the jury the insufficient proof of the • disguised
man being the prioner.

The Colimb: Sergeant having summed up,
The jury retired, and after haying been absent

on account of the good character he had received, above an hour, came into court returninc, a verdic
and the provocation that had been given him. of " Guilty."
Mr. Baron Martin said he did not appear to have The Common Sergeant said he entirely concurre
received any provocation. The only ground for in the verdict, and sentenced the prisoner to fou
the recommendation was his good character. Ba- years' penal servitude.
ron Martin then proceeded to pass sentence upon , This ended the business of the session.
the prisoner. He said he had been convicted of an The courts sat until `very late.
offence which no one could doubt he had committed.
Whether he intended to murder the prosecutor or
not was known only to himself, but there could be
no doubt that a man who stabbed another with a
deadly instrument in the face and other dangerous
parts of the body must clearly have intended to all
but murder the man at the least. The pro-
Secutor appeared to be yet in a dangerous I
state, and if he died, the prisoner would still
have to take his trial for murder, and the present
proceeding would not relieve h m from that con-
sequence. The jury had recommended him to
mercy, and he should comply with that recommen-
dation to some extent, but the only ground upon
which it could at all be attended to was that of his
previous good character. As to provocation there
was none in a legal sense. The prosecutor might
have beha,ved ill to him in money matters, but
that was no justification for his committing such a
deadly attack upon him, and it must be known
that the law of this country would not for a.
moment sanction such 'a proceeding. His Lord-
ship then concluded his address by sentencing the
prisoner to be kept in penal servitude for 15 years.
George Cox, who was convicted on Thursday of
stabbing his wife in St. Martin's-le-Grand, under
peculiar circumstances, was brought up for judg-
ment, and sentenced to six months' hard labour.
George Harvey, 46, and William John Thomp-
son, 32, two Post-office letter-carriers, who hat
pleaded " Guilty" to charges of stealing letters
containing money, were also brought up and sen-
tenced to eight years' penal servitude.
We are requested to state that the sentence
passed in the Central Criminal Court on Thursday
in the case of Harrison and Ryder Durant and
Roger Durant was as follows :—Harrison six years'
• penal servitude. The Durants were sentenced
each to 18 .months' imprisonment with hard
labour.

STATE OF TRADE.

MANCHESTER, AVG. 21.
There continues to be a fair demand for yarns/
and most kinds, of cloth are more or less in request.
Domestics, long-cloths, and T-cloths gn ofr com-
mensurately with the production, and there is a
moderate business for India. hile the make
thus continues active, however, the position of nas
nufacturera is somewhat worse, because they findi
impossible to force prices up in the proportion
which yarns and cotton are rising in value. There
is some slight improvement in the price of clo.hes
but it is slow. The prices of India cloths are slightly
if at all better than they were a month ago ; but
owing partly to the lessened production, andpartlY
to larger purchases by parties who have been
tempted to enter into them speculatively from see-
ing the continued rise of c ,t-on, they are very firm
and some sellers haVe asked more money. In yarns
there is a general advance since last week of fully
id. per lb., 'and spinners ,being mostly well en-
gage,l have shown a disinclination to enter int°
new engagements without even a greater increase
in these goods to cover the increased cost of cotton.
This is more particularly the case in the medium
counts of warps and cTs for export and home use,
but the aggregate business of the week has not been
large.

A servant girl in the employment of the prisoner
proved that upon the morning tho notes were
missed she found her master up and in the school-
room when she came in the morning.
In cross-exatnination she sta,ted that he generally
used to let her in.

Frederick Wares, clerk to Messrs. Routledge, of
Farringdon-street, booksellers, produced a letter
received by post by their firm upon the 20th April.
The Rev. George Bailey Tazon, sworn, said—l
am rector of Little Stanmore. The prisoner , has
frequently written to me. I know his handwriting
well - I should say that the letter produced is in his
hand, but disguised. It looks like left handed
writing.
The letter was put in and read. It was dated
from Finsbury-circus, and ran thus :
" The Rev. Henry Neald, of Oxford, I.Vng now
in London for a short time, wishes Messrs. Rout-
ledge to make him up a parcel of 900 of Archdeacon
Allen's Penny Hymns, and would call for them on
his road to the station upon his return to Oxford.",
John Purday, clerk to Messrs. Routledge, proved
that about five o'clock in the afternoon upon the
Gth of AugtiA, a cab drove up to their door, and
upon his goiug out he Saw a man inside, who said
he was the friend of the Rev. Mr. H. Neald, of Ox-
ford, and had called for the parcel of hymn books,
and it was given to him, and he gave in
,payment
a Si. note, the one produced, and receivtd the
change. To Ole best of witness's bodief the prisoner
was that man, bat he wore a moustache, being rather
grey, coloured spectacles, and was dressed in black.
Mr. G. Burris, an engraver and priutar in Cam-
bridge-terrace Edgeware-road, proved that some
one wearing big whiskers and mou,tachios, came
upon the 6th of June in a cab, and gave him orders
to engrave a plats with the "Hon. C. F. Pon-
sonby, Harford-house, Dorsetshire," upon it. That
man, he believed was the prisoner.
r. John Williams—l am manager to Mr. Burns.
I first saw the prisoner on the 10th of June, at the
door of our shop, in a cab. He came about the
plate, and I spoke to him for some time. He paid
a deposit upon the plate, and got me to pull him a
proof card. lam sure he is the man ;he had on a
large false moustache, most clumsily put on. I
could. see the sticking plaster. The disguise was
most ridiculous, he looked like Guy Fawkes. .(Loud
laughter.) I went down with the police, and saw
him come out of the church at Stanmore, and knew
him instantly.
Mr. William Cox Bennett, of 45, Cliiapside,
watchmaker and jeireller, stated that upon the
18th Of June, a brougham, with livery servant,
stopped at their door, and upon his going out, he
saw inside some ono whom he thought to be the
prisoner, but be was disguised with whiskers,
moustachios; and spectacles. He had sent in the
card, Hon. C. F. Ponsonby, Harford-house, Dor-
set-shire,. and._ said that he wanted same of wit-
ness's 10/, gold watches to make presents, of to his
tenantry. Witness advised him to have some of
their 10/. silver ones, as being better suited.fer
country wear, and be after some discussion assented
and took five of them, payiog.with the
.50/. note
produced.
Cross-examingd—l only believe him to be the
man.
James Hayes, assistant to Mr. Kirkham, pawn-
broker, Strays], produced one of the watches in
question. About' eight o'clock upon the evening
of the 13th of June he advanced him Si. The man
(Taub
the name of Edward Mill., 3, Bream's-build-
ings, Chancery-lane.