The Sun.
London, England, 1857-07-14 00:00:00

NATIONAL COLLECTION.

Mr. W. EWART put a question t, the Vice•Pres`.-
dent of the Bard of Education—" It appearing arum
the returns laid before this house, that, in the case of
some of our national collections of objects of arts,
science, and historical interest, as well as in the case of
civil and religious edifices and monuments (all maintain-
ed or avisted by the money votes of Parliament), the
public have the benefit of instruction by means of descrip-
tive labels affixed or appended to such objects, with-
out incurring the expense of a catalogue ; while in
the case of other such collections, edifice?, and
monuments (which are similarly supported by pubic
money), no such advantage is given to the public,
whether measures will be taken for extending the system
of labelling generally for the benefit of the public ?"
Mr. COWPER, in reply, said that it was the inten-
tion to extend the system to which the hon. gentleman
had alluded. . _ _

On the motion for going into committee of supply,
ORDNANCE SURVEY.

Lord ELCHO proceeded to re-open this question.
He found Wilt with the previous decisions of the house
against the 25-inch scale, and concluded with a notion
that the whole question be referred to a Royal Com-
mission.
Lord PALMERSTON hoped the house would not go
into the question again. He had no hesitation in saying
that he thought the late decision of the house upon the
subject an unwise one, but as they had decided he was
content to acquiesce in it, and be hoped the house would
not lose time in again debating the question, but would
at once go into committee.
After a few remarks from Sir D. Norreys, Lord John
Manners, and others, the motion was negatived without
a division, and the house went into committee of supply,
when several votes connected with Irish charities were
agreed to.
On the vote for the Irish regiuru donum, •
Mr. BAXTER moved that the sum be reduced to the
nominal sum of 3661. He maintained that the Govern-
ment grant bad deadened the energies of the Presby-
terian congnotions, who gave less to their clergymen
now than before t: ley received the grant. He contrasted
this with the prosperity of the Free Church of Scotland,
which, which, having no grant from the Government,
bad formed 800 congregations, built 500 houses for their
ministers, and 1`41,C. raised nearly four millions of money
since the disruption in 1843,
Mr. _KIRK clef ended the grant, and claimed the grant
as the just right o:f the Irish Presbyterians in lieu of the
tithes of which tit ey„lisd unjustly been deprived. •
After some ten larks from Mr. GILPIN and Mr.
Hadfieli in surport of the reduction, the committee
dlylded, when thee original grant was carried by a Ina-
i,m.:!Ar of 117 to 41.
A'n'e of -.323,150.'. for superannuation allowances in
the Rol, enqe eiale!.cnent was agreed to without dis-
cussion.
On a vete of 100,,000/,, for civil c.mtingencies being
proposed,
5e
Mr. WISE of cted to 1,000/. having been given to
• brought home the treaties of Paris
the gentlemen who
and PersiU. We bk too many couriers and messengers
to have such an item asvitcheast.ofTthhe was another charge
ere
Forcign-office clerks
of 2,0001. for extra sir.
•11 class was that 2,000/ paid ?
during the war ; to whit•
ed bard, or was it to two or
Was it to those who vro-rel‘
There was a charge of
three of the prinrjpal clerkA