The Sun.
London, England, 1861-04-19 00:00:00

HIRD EDITION.

SUN OFFICE, Seven o'clock.

IMPERIAL PABLIAMENT

HOUSE OF LORDS.—(THIS EVENING.)
The Lon]) CIWICELLOR took his seat on the woolsack
at five o'clock.
THE BANKRUPTCY BILL.
The Earl of ABERDEEN presented a petition in favour
of the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Bill.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The Bristol and South Wales Union
b Railway and the
Dublin (City) Steam Packet Company ills were read a
third time and passed.

ROME.
The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH rose to inquire
whether the Government was engaged in any. correspond-
ence with the object of reconciling the spiritual inde-
pendence of the See of Rome with the exercise of
temporal sovereignty within the Roman territory
by the King of Italy. The noble lord said
he trusted their lordships would allow him to offer some
observations in putting the question. In so doing he
should not censure the Government that had been
swept away, or praise those that had been
called into exisitence. He accepted the situation
as he found it, and as her Majesty had accepted
the present state of things, he must say he had heard no
whisper of disapprobation of such a course. The great thing
for their lordships to consider was how the new power that
had been created could be applied for its own advantage.
He could not but express how great was his wonder at
the results of the revolution, which in two years
had created a nation as large as Prussia, and
which all that had been done by the exertions of
one man who had out of the most discordant elements
brought about such immense changes. He couldnot but attribute that result to seine power dif-
ferent from the ordinary works of man he could but
recognise the hand of Providence, and accept its teaching.
Without Rome, however, the structure was not complete,
it wanted the crowning keystone. With Rome, as the
capital of the Italian ;kingdom, there would be no
longer Lombards, Piedmontese, and Neapolitans,
but one common feeling would unite the whole
populations, and the Italians would be one nation as
well as one people. (Cheers.) The greatest object to be
arrived at was the consolidation of the new kingdom of
Italy. (Hear.) Having alluded to the occupation of the
Roman territory by the troops of France, he observed that
the Emperor of the French had placed himself in a
false position as his policy was, what might be called a half
measure. He owed his power entirely to the people, and
in consequence of this he would not completely oppose the
principles to which he was indebted for his elevation,
or adopt the extreme course of insisting that the Pope
should retain his authority over all his dominions. (Hear,
hear.) He could not but hope that France would reconsi-
der the position it at present occupied, and would 'come to
some more advantageous conclusionwith respect to the peace
of Europe. No Roman Catholic who desired that the
Pope should remain at "the head of the Church,
or in possession of his dignity, could wish the existing
state of things to exist, and before peace could be at all re-
stored he thought the spiritual and temporal power
of the Pope must be separated. Having said thus
much of Rome, he would now pass to Venetia. He
never could forget the services of Austria in the great revo-
lution. He could not forget her services in 1805, when, by
her advance, she prevented the invasion of this country,
or, again, of her services in 1809, or in 1815, when she threw
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herself into the very front of the battle. Austria, he did
not think had been treated fairly in this question. (Hear,
hear, from the Opposition.) At the Congress she gave up
the Netherlands in consideration of receiving Italy, and he
considered it necessary for the safety of the Austrian
Empire that she should reconcile herself to the Italians.
(Hear, hear.) He would ask was the value of the Quadri-
lateral fortresses what it,was at one time F—he did not think
so, and his reason for that opinion was the advance of science
in offensive war. The recent changes in Italy had
very much changed the strategic importance of the Aus-
trian position in Italy, and until the Italians obtained
Venetia their policy would be entirely warped. They would
be allying themselves with France for the sake of procuring
Venetia, but with entire unity her policy would be different.
Like Switzerland she would devote herself to the maintenance
of her neutrality, and the preservation of the balance of
power in Europe. (Hear, hear.) He hoped the Aus-
trians would come tou senso of truth on the subject ; but
one thing he most stron-ly deprecated, viz., that Italians
should in any way interfere with the quarrel between
Austria and Hungary.
[LEFT SPEAYINai.]