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'roe, rilacee in Ireland. which the hon. member, though
an Irishman, found difficulty in pronouncing, is favour
of the bill, and afterwards moved, in con,ennence of the
hon. gentleman who introduced the bill no 1 eager bring
a member of the h•mee, that the order fit its
second reading should be read and discharged. He
urged the importance of the suljeet, which he consi
dered could only be amicably settled by the Government
taking it up. The present state of the law relative to
landlord and tenant in Ireland deprived the Government
of the means of recruiting the army in cases of emer-
gency from its causing emigration. The number of
p titions that had been presented to the house in favour
,it such a measure, showed the feeling of the peep'e of
Ireland on the subject, and he asked the Government
to take it under their serious consideration,
Mr. BAGWELL also urged on the Government the
necessity of their legislating on the suljeet in the course
of next session. Ile state f that from 1851 to 1857, a
period of undoubted prosperity, the population of Ire-
land had decreased, principally by emigration, 754 334.
The O'DONOGHOE expressed a hope that Govern-
ment would state their intentions with reference to the
subject.
l'lr. ffATCHELL expressed a similar opinion. He
believed the bill of the hon. gentleman the late member
for Mayo, gave general satisfaction to the people of
Ireland. The Irish members were almost unanimous
to its favour. Thera was no division in the Irish party
relative to " tenure" and " compensation," therefore
le hoped the hon. gentlemen would not resist the appeal
,f Ireland, but introduce a measure on this sut ject. next
session.
Mr. GREER considered the Government bad ne-
elected their duty in not taking up this subject. Until
they did so and legislated, the people of Ireland w ,ul.l
not be able to take advantage of that career of pros-
perity that appeared to be opening for Ireland.
Mr. H. HERBERT said that he felt certain that if
hen. members connected with Ireland turned their at.
tention to the question during the recces, and were fair
and moderate in their demands in any bid they might
introduce next session, her Majesty's Government would
give the important subject their serious consideration.
Mr. STAFFORD said that the statement of the Irish
Chief Secretary amounted in fact to this, that acnong.t
the various subjects they had promised to consider and
introduce nor'; session, this subject had not been
considered worthy their consideration.
The order for the second reading of the bill was then
read and dieenarged.
BURIALS ACT AMENDMENT BILL.
The committee on this bill was resumed.
Mr. MASSEY. moved the following new clause:—
"In any burial ground provided under the powers of
the acts hereinbefore recited or this al% respecting which
one of her Majesty's Principal Secre!aries of Sate shell
have certified that the necessary provisions have been
complied with, it shall be lawful for the incumbent of
such parish, cr his curate, or such duly qualified person
as such incumbent may authorise, to bury in such burial
ground prior to the consecration thereof." The hon.
gentleman said thaethe clause had met with the approval
of the ,:ighest ecclesiastical authority, and that it was
Framed with reference to the Swansea and another case
that had been before the public.
Mr. GLADSTONE said that the clause was not

just:fled by the circumstances so far as the committee
uhderztood them, nor was it free from obj•.ctibns of the
gravest character, which the hon. gentleman appeared
not to have anticipated. This clause proposed a More
important innovation in ecclesiastical law than bad been
proposed within the memory of the eldest person living.
The grievance complained of by members of the Church
~f E:gland was that they c ;old not by the present law
he buried in unconsecrated ground with the rites of the
Church of England ; but this clause would nob remedy
that. grievance. The clause before the committee pro-
posed to give incumbents the power of burying iu ma-
c )n,ecrated ground, but it did not make it compulsory
on them to do so. If they refused to bury in unconse-
crated ground with the rites of the Church of England,
they could not be compelled to do so by this clause, and
thereLre its operation would he Lft to their caprice.
He admitted legislative remedy was necessary in certain
clses, but it should be strictly confined to them. This
clause would give incumbents the power of standing at
the gates of burial grounds, and refuse the burial of per-
sons except they were satisfied as to the deceased's habits
of life and religions convictions.

Mr. DILLWYN referred at ROMS length to the dis-
pute between the Didion and the Burial B,ard of
S vansea, rtlitive to the consecration of the new burial
ground, which he said there was no chance of being
amicably settled. Thu burial board contended thlt they
had corn[ lied with the requirements of the act, but it
was denied on the part of the bishop. The refusal of
the bishop to consecrate the ground had the effect of
driving Churchmen out of the Church. Churchmen had
to be buried without funeral cites unless 'hey were per-
formed by dissenting clergymen, and it caused much ill
feeling amongst the parishioners of S san,ea.

Sir t 4, Heath cote, Mr. Newdegate, Mr. B. Hope,
ar:Ld Hr. Spooner opposed the clause ; Mr. Hadfield,
and 'Air. Saliibury supported the cause
Mr. M. WILLIAMS hoped the c:ause would be
withdrawn.

Mr. MASSEY said that the clause was proposed to
get ri lof the scandals that at present exited with re-
ference to the Church in consequence of the conduct of
two right reverend prelates, which hal ha 1 the
effect of depriving inhabitants of certain parishes of the
privilege that had existed from time immemorial, that of
burial in consecrated ground. Toe hon.-gentleman_ sai(i
that the di.putes had not arisen from the conduct of the
burial boards. He hal some special knowledge on the bub
ject,and hehad no hesitation in saying Vgatthe burial boarls
had acted in a respectful and conciliatory spirit. The
clause was a permissive one, and thinking it would
remedy the evdr complained of, he asked the committee
to agree to it. He, denied that he was proposing inno-
vations in tho law, seeing that the Earl of Shaftesbury's
bill permitted the rites of the Church of England to
be performed in Exeter Hall on Sunday evening;, which
was unconsecrated ground. If this clause failed in its
°Eject, he thought he should be justified on a fu'ure day
in ciminv to the house for more stringent powers.
Mr. PULLER, objected to the clause, and as the
Government did not fed disposed to withdraw the clause
he moved that the chairman do report progress.
Mr. McISSET considered it would be better to coma
to a decision on the clause at once than postpone it to a
futura day.(Hear, hear.)

Mr. PULLER paid his object in making the motion
was to induce the Government to reconsider the clause.
The motion was then withdrawn.
Mr. HARDY considered it would be better for Go-
vernment to withdraw the clause, and introduce another
that should define what was a burial ground.
The CIIA.IRMAN then put the motion that the
clause be read a second time.
The committee divided. The numbers were—
For the motion
Against it
Majority —39
Mr. RIDLEY then moved an amendment that on the
receipts of the inspector's certificate the bishop of the
diocese should consecrate the burial ground, and that it
should be lawful. &c.
Mr. MASSEY objected to the amendment.
The [amendment was subsequently withdrawn. and
the eause ordered to stand part of the bill, after a
discussion in which it was stated that the clergymen of
the Church cif Epgland would be allowed to use their
own discreti m under thi3 clause as to what form of
burial service they would ts,e in unconsecrated ground,
without rendering themselves liable to a breach of
Church discipline.
Several now clauses were added, and the bill passed
through committee.
MUNICIPAL CORPORATION BILL.
This bill as amended was avreeil to.
BANKING BILL.
This bill as amended was alto agreed to, and ordered
to be rend a third time t-morrow at 12 o'clock.
BANKRUPTCY AND INSOLVENCY (IRELAND)

BILL.
This hill was read a third time and passed.
CALEDONIAN AND CRINAN CANALS BILL.
This Mt was read a third tiros and passed.
NEW ZEALAND LOAN GUARANTEE.
The report was brought up and agreed to. It involves
the loan of a sum of 500,0001.
TURNPIKE ACTS CONTINUANCE BILL.
This bill as atnhuded was agreed to.
The Land Tax Commissioners' Names Bill was read a
third time and passed.
The report on the County Courts Judges' Salaries was
brought up and agreed to.

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COUNTY CONSTABLES.
Mr. MASSEY obtained leave to introduce a hill to
amend the law concerning detached parts of counties, so
far as respects the e‘tablishment of county constables.
The remaining orders were disposed of, aad the house
adjourned at five minutes to six o'clock.

ELECTION COMMITTEES..—(This Day.)

WEYMOUTII.

The committee met this morning at 1 o'clock, when
evidence was taken on the part of the sitting member.
The first witness called was the Rev. Mr. Russell, Con-
gregational minister at Weymouth, who deposed that
he wai present when Mr. Campbell (sitting member)
spoke to his butler about the 101. cheque given to him, and
which the witness Viall said bad been given to him
to get changed, out of which he received 31. for
three pairs of Flippers, when Mr. Campbell asked his
butler what become of the cheque he became much con-
fused, and on Mr. Campbell bn3ming angry he took
out of his pocket 81. and some silver as the change.
The committee, after some further evidence, declared
that the sitting members were duly elected.