The Sun.
London, England, 1861-06-22 00:00:00

THE MIRES CASE.

2 This affair came on again on Thursday before the
2 1 Correctional Tribunal, M. Solar being in default.
M. Marie, in the absence of M. Mathieu, the counsel
for M. Mires, applied for a further postponement of
the hearing for a week, on the ground that the
investigation into the accounts, although followed
up with unceasing perseverance, was so difficult
that it had been found impossible to bring it to a
close. M. Mires requested permission to say a few-
words in support of the application for a further
delay. He had been taken,:he said, to his office, but
on condition that he should be under the surveil-
lance of two police agents. He was to work and
make his researches under the eyes of those
agents. He had refused to do so, because in the
examination of his papers and books he required
all his coolness and presence of mind, without hav-
ing his attention distracted by the presence ()Pother
persons. A long negotiation had ensued, and it
was at length agreed that the presence of the agents
should be dispensed with, provided he was attended.
by an advocate. That pause in the affair had impeded
the examination and caused the loss of time which
had rendered a further delay necessary. Mires,
afterwards, in reply to a question from the President
as to whether all the communications he desired had
not been granted, replied that the further delay ap-
plied for was solely caused by the difficulties thrown
in the way of his preparing his defence. M. Senart
stated that every proper accommodation had been_
granted, but that when M. Mires had gone to his
office, accompanied by proper agents, he insisted
on turning them out of the room. That pretention,
with the responsibility weighing on them, they very
properly resisted, on which the prisoner got into &
passion, saying that he would not work under the
eyes of the police. In presence of that refusal, Mr.
Mires was taken back to prison. An application on
the matter was made to the Prefect of Police, and it
was at length decided that be should be allowed to
make the researches he required, attended only by
an advocate. M. Senart further declared that every
possible facility had been given to the prisoner, and
that he could not understand the persistence of
M. Mires in making such unmerited reproaches
against the judicial authorities, and occupying
the court with matters purely personal. M. Marie
next gave an account of what had been related to
him by the advocate in question. That gentleman
had told him :—" We were occupied at the office,
when, hearing a noise at the door, we went to see
what it was, and found some police agents outside.
The circumstance annoyed us, and we declared that
we should not remain if agents continued to watch us.
1 declare," added M. Marie, " that under such cir-
cumstances I should have acted in the same way,
for the advocate ought to know how to make his
dignity respected. The President then declared
the incident to be at an end, and ordered the names
of the witnesses to be called over. Fifty-two were
then called on in the usual way, and ordered to
attend without further summons on that day week.

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On Tuesday last the patent for re-constituting
the Board of Admiralty was formally produced, and the new
members " read" themselves in. Vice-Admiral the Hon
Sir Frederick Grey will take possession of the house formerly
occupied by the late Rear-Admiral the Hon. F. T. Pelham
in the Admiralty Yard, as soon as it can be got ready for
his reception.--Army and .11'avy Gazette.
THE LATE FATAL ACCIDENT ON THE LONDON:DAN
NORTH -WESTERN RAILWAY.-An inquiry was resumed
before Mr. W. S. Poole, coroner, at Kenilworth, yesterday,
touching the death of the two men who were killed by an
accident, the immediate cause of which was the giving way
of a bridge on the London and North-Western Railway,
not far from the above town, and this was pretty generally
attributed to the inadequacy of this bridge to carry the
heavy engines now in use. The jury returned a verdict to
the effect, that the deceased were killed on the 11th
inst., by the fall of an engine of 30 tons weight through a
bridge with a girder which contained a flaw, and was of
defective casting; that they found no one criminally re-
sponsible for the defect, but that Mr. Sewell, of Coventry,
had not performed his duty as inspector ; and that Mr.
Woodhouse, of Stafford, engineer for this district, ought not
to have overlooked the fact that the girders of the bridge
were insufficient to bear the increased weight of the engines
now in use. The verdict was accompanied by a recommen-
dation for a better system of inspection on the line,, and Mr.
Carter, on the part of the company, said he had no doubt
that would be carried into effect.
A VOLUNTEER FINED.-Yesterday, at the Man-
chester Police-court, Thomas Marsland was summoned for
non-payment of 265., the amount due for his subscription
to the 28th Lancashire Rifle Volunteers. The defendant
did not appear. Captain Scott pressed for the infliction of
the full penalty of double the amount of subscription, feel-
ing assured that it would have a beneficial effect on others
who neglected to contribute to the funds of the regiment.
The idea existed that these contributions were not recover-
able, and it was desirable that it should be known that the
law under which the volunteers are constituted expressly
provided for these cases. The magistrate inflicted a penalty
of double the amount sued for.
• trar-General
of the Census Returns just issued by the R
POPULATION AND HOUSES.-A careful analysis
.9 in 1861 ;
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compared
the.
house accom-
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• 1851. Thus Bed-
fordshire
5-1 in 1861 ;
mientrtoyentan district,
Buckinghamshire,
fordshire had 5.0 persons
Berkshire, 5.3 in 1851 and
Cambridgeshire, 4'9 in 1851
4.9 in 1851 and 4.8 in 1361;
1 and 5.0 in 1861; CU
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Cutaberland, 5.3 in
Cornwall, 5.2 in 185
4.9 '
1851 and 5.0 in 1861; Derbyshire,
. in. 1851 and 4•8 in
1861; Devonshire, 51 both years ; Dorsetshire, 5.1 in
and 4.6 in 1861 ; Cheshire, 3in 1851 ar.
1851 and 4.9 in 1861 ; Durham, 6.0 in 1851 and 5.9 in 1861;
Essex, 5.0 in 1851 and 4.9 in 1861 ; Gloucestershire, 5.3 in
1851 and 5.2 in 1861; Hampshire, 5•4 in 1861 and 5.5 in
1861; Herefordshire, 4.8 in both years ; Hertfordshire, 51.
in 1851 and 4'9 in 1861 ; Huntingdonshire, 4.8 in 1851
and 41 in 1861 ; Kent, 51 in 1851 and 5.8 in 1861; Lan-
cashire, 5.8 in 1851 and 5.5 in 1861; Leicestershire, 4'
in 1851 and 4•6 in 1861 ; Lincolnshire, 5.0 in 1851 and
41 in 1861; Aliddlesex, 7.9 in 1851 and 8.1 in 1861
(overcrowding, it will be seen, is increasing in the metro-
polis) ; Monmouth, 5.4 in 1851 and 5.3 in 1861; Norfolk,
4.7 in 1851 and 4.5 in 1861 ; Northamptonshire, 4.8 in
1851 and 4'7 'in 1861; Northumberland, 6.3 in 1851 and
6.1 in 1861 ; Nottinghamshire, 4.9 in 1851 and 4.7 in
1861; Oxfordshire, 4.9 in 1861 and 41 in 1861; Rutland-
shire, 5.0 in 1851 and 4.7 in 1861; Shropshire, 5.0 in both
years ; Somersetshire, 5.2 in 1851 and 5.1 in 1861; Staf-
fordshire, 5.2 in 1851 and 5.1 in 1861; Suffolk, 4.8 in 1851
and 4.6 in 1861; Surrey, 6.2 in 1851 and 6.3 in 1861 (me-
tropolitan influences at work again here) ; Sussex, 5 7 in
1851 and 5.5 in 1861; Warwickshire, 4.9 in 1851 and 4.8
in 1861; Westmoreland, 5.1 in both years ; Wiltshire, 4.9
in 1851 and 4.7 in 1861; Worcestershire, 4.9 in both years ;
and Yorkshire, 4.9 in 1851 and 4.8 in 186 L Some persons
have endeavoured to prove that the decline of the popula-
tion in purely rural districts has been caused by their bad
house accommodation, but taken as a whole, the foregoing
e
figures do not support the conclusion ; the real cause of the
falling off is inadequate remuneratic al for labour, and the
cheering intelligence received from a relatives who _
already Isollgllt to t4eir fort= abroad,

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
dtherefore support the bill, as it would relieve several bur-
ens that now pressed very heavily on the shipping trade.
If the house delayed the passing of the bill it would only
increase the claim for compensation. The real question for
them to decide was, was ten years a sufficient time for that
purpose. He thought that it was, and he also thought that
the Government deserved great praise for the great consi-
deration that
.had been given both to taxpayers and tax
receivers.
Colonel FRENCH was against compensation being given
at all.

HOUSE OF LORDS-YESTERDAY.

The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack
at 4 o'clock.
THE CONSOLIDATION OF THE STATUTES BILL.
The LORD CHANCELLOR made some observations
relative to this bill, which were inaudible in the gallery.
Lord BROUGHAM expressed his opinion that it was
not advisable that legal bills should be discussed clause by
clause in the House of Commons, considering that there
was only a very small minority of members competent to
deal with bills of that description.
THE INDIAN NAVY.

The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH, who had given notice
of a motion on the subject of the reduction of the Indian
navy, now wished for some information as to what arrange-
ments the Government proposed to adopt in order to meet
the deficiency in the naval force that would be created. It
was necessary this reduction should be supplied by her Ma-
jesty's ships, and he wished to know from what source the
expense of meeting the deficiency would be supplied.
The Duke of SOMERSET, having referred to the finan-
-6al statement of Mr. Laing in support of the alteration
which it was proposed to make, said that it was intended to
charge the Indian Treasury with the expenses of the pro-
posed alteration.
VOTE BY BALLOT.

Lord TEYNHAM presented a petition from the Society
for Promoting the Adoption of Vote by Ballot, setting
forth that the experience of recent cases proved that the
attempts to put in force the penal law for the purpose of pre-
ventin gcorrupt practices at elections by fine and imprisonment
had entirely failed in accomplishing their object, and prayed
that attention might be given to the recommendations of
the witnesses examined before the select committee of the
House of Commons in favour of the adoption of vote by
ballot.

Mr. BUCHANAN thought the compromise of the hon.
member for Sunderland was a very liberal one, and ought
to be accepted.
Mr. LINDSAY said he should be neglecting his duty
and also the interest of those industrious persons who had
sent him to Parliament if he did not take the sense of the
house on his amendment.
After a few words from Sir F. GOLDSMID,
The house then divided, when there appeared :
For the amendment
Against l2B

Majority
The amendment was consequently negatived.
Mr. CAVE then proposed that the following words be
added at the end of the clause :—" Provided, that in the
case of any body of proprietors paying a dividend to share-
holders out of the profits made by them, or of any compaay
paying a like dividend, or of any private individual entitled
by reason of a private proprietary right, adequate compen-
sation shall be made in such manner as may be determined
by arbitration or otherwise." He urged the necessity of
making this amendment, and said that at Shoreham a large
sum of money had been laid out in the improvement of the
harbour on the strength of receiving the dues. He ap-
proved generally of the bill, and the addition he proposed
was only what was required as a matter of justice.
Mr. M. GIBSON said ho hoped the hon. gentleman
would not press his amendment. He did not think that
any special reason existed in favour of Shoreham, and
therefore he thought they ought to come in to the 10 years
compensation.
The amendment was withdrawn,and the clause was agreed
to.

Clauses up to 21 were agreed to.
In reply to Mr. DEEDES,
Mr. M. GIBSON said all the clauses giving the right
to transfer Ramsgate Harbour to any company, railway or
otherwise, had been withdrawn. The funds transferred la
Government from Ramsgate would be used for the benefit
of the harbour.
Mr. MOFFATT thought that the management of
Ramsgate harbour by the trustees had been highly effec-
tive.

Mr. MITCHELL was of a different opinion.
Mr. LIDDELL said with respect to the economy of the
trustees of Ramsgate Harbour, it had been stated that the
works, which had cost the trustees £2,000,000, could have
been erected at a cost of £700,000.
Mr. MOFFATT said Sir J. Rennie, in his evidence in
the committee which sat some time ago, said if the works
had had to be erected at the present time they could possibly
have been carried out for £760,000. It must be recollected
that the works were commenced whey the appliances which
were at present in use were not in existence.
Mr. MOFFATT said it was gratifying to hear that the
funds transferred from the trustees of Ramsgate Harbour
to the Government were to be used for keeping the work
in efficient repair.
Clauses 22 to 24 were agreed to as amended.
Clause 2.5 was struck out.
Clauses up to 31 were agreed to.
Clause 32 was postponed in order to allow certain amend-
ments to be made with reference to limiting its operations
with respect to Ramsgate harbour.
Several verbal amendments were made in clause 33.
Clauses 34 to 41 with amendments were agreed to.
Clauses 42, 43, 41 were omitted.
On clause 45 being read it was proposed to omit it and
the following eight clauses, in order to make room for the
following proposals :—From and after the first day of
January, 1862, the Harbour of Dover and the soil thereof, li
and all property, real and personal, vested in the warden
and assistants of Dover Harbour, or in any person in trust
for the purposes of the said harbour, with their actual and
reputed appurtenances, subject to all liabilities affecting
the same, shall be transferred to, and vested in a board of
trustees to be called the Dover Harbour Board. The said
Dover Harbour Board shall consist of seven members, four
of whom shall form a quorum ; the said seven members
shall be the Lord Warden for the time being of the Cinque
Ports, who shall ex-officio be chairman of the said board,
two burgesses of the borough of Dover elected by the town
council every three years, and to be eligible for re-election,
a member to be from time to time appointed by the Presi-
dent of the Board of Trade for the time being, a member
to be from time to time appointed by the First Lori
of the Admiralty for the time being, a member to be
from time to time appointed by the South Eastern Railway
Company, under their common seal, and a member to be from
time to time appointed by the London, Chatham, and Dover
Railway Company, under their common seal ; and the said
Lord Warden shall from time to time nominate, under his
hand, one of the members of the said Board to be his deputy,
to preside at all meetings at which the said Lord Warden
shall not be present ; and in the event of an equality of
votes at any meeting of the said Board, the chairman at
such meeting shall be entitled to a casting vote : provided,
that in the event of either or both of the said railway com-
panics failing or declining to appoint a member of the said
Harbour Board within one calendar month after having
been required so to do by the President of the Board of
Trade, then such president shall, from and after such de-
fault, be entitled thereafter to appoint from time to time
another member or members in lieu thereof, as the case
may be.

Mr. DEEDES protested against the manner in which
Dover Harbour was proposed to be dealt with by the pre-
sent bill. He considered the changes proposed uncalled for,
and the manner in which the subject had been introduced
to the house he thought very irregular. He thought the
Court of Assistants at Dover had been treated very disre-
spectfully.
Mr. GIBSON said when the bill was first introduced
there existed no intention of interfering with Dover, but as
the people at that place had petitioned to come within its
provisions, alterations to carry these wishes into effect were
made. He could assure the hon. gentleman opposite (Mr.
Deedes) there was not the slightest intention of treating in
a slighting or disrespectful manner the Court of Assistants
at Dover, who had conferred the greatest benefit on the
town by their exertions.
The clause was omitted.
Clause 52 was ordered to stand part of the bill.
Clauses 53 to 64 were agreed to.
Clause 65 was postponed.
Several new clauses were agreed to, amongst them those
given above, constituting a new governing board for Dover
Harbour.
Mr. DEEDES and Lord LOVAINE strongly protested
against the manner in which Dover had been dealt with by
the present bill.

Mr. THOMPSON moved the following additional clause
to the bill :—" That on and atter the first day of January,
1862, all vessels exceeding ten tons entering or leaving the
harbour of Whitby shall pay to the trustees of Whitby
Harbour such sum or toll, not exceeding one penny pei ton,
as such trustees may from time to time direct to be paid to
them, for the support, maintenance, and improvement of
the existing or any future tide lights at the entrance of the
harbour : Provided always, that any vessel which shall
have paid such toll on entering the harbour may again leave
the harbour without further payment of toll."

The clause was agreed to and added to the bill.
The preamble and schedules of the bill were then agreed
to, and the chairman was ordered to report the bill.
The house resumed and the sitting was suspended till
6 o'clock.

The house resumed at 6 o'clock.
NEW ZEALAND.
Mr. AD DERLEY asked the Under-Secretary of State for
the Colonies whether, now that the rebellion in Now Zea-
land was suppressed, the government were taking such steps
as would tend to extricate this country from any future im-
plication in native policy ; and whether they would now ad-
vise her Majesty to give assent to the Native Council Bill
sent by the New Zealand Legislature for her approval.
Mr. FORTESCUE said he could not give any other
answer than that he gave before, viz., that a new governor
of New Zealand, Sir George Grey, had been appointed, and
that instructions had been given to him to consider the
whole subject of the administration of the colony and re-
port
f to her Majesty's Government. Under those circum-
stances it would be very wtrivoengcoaututchileßpirlle.sent moment to
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COLONIES.

Colonel FRENCH asked the Under-Secretary of State
for the Colonies whether it had been determined by the
Government to grant retiring pensions to governors of
colonies; and, if so, after what period of service, and on
what scale.

Mr. FORTESCUE said this question was considered by
the Government of Lord Derby, who came to a decision
against it. Her Majesty's Government had not given any
consideration to the subject.