The Sun.
London, England, 1857-03-27 00:00:00

LOSIDoN, FRIDAY EVENING MARCH 27, -!•7.

ELECTION INT gLLIGENCE.

BATH.

ThP nomination of candidates for the representa-
tion of the city in Parliament was hAd yesterday,
upon a • hustings erected in. 'the Orange Grove.
There was a tOltrably Lige attendance, hut- the ab-
sence of. colows, music,.and indeed of everything
calculated to indicatl the party of the aspirants f r
P:=.rliaraentary honour?, imparted t") the •ptocted-
ings a somewhat tame appearance. Tile Lilyral?,
Mr. W.' Tito and Sir A. H. were the first to
arrive. . They. were . attended by the .movers and
sec. mins and 1 numerou?. influential gentlemen of
tl,eir party, and were teceNed on their appearance
o'i the hustings with sortre cheer:ng. Mr. Arthur
Way, wlio offers hiinself 'as a Liberal C 4•servative,
shortly fflowed, attended I,y. art influential bOdy
of elect .xs holding. the views he professei, and wan
also received wish some apulause. _ ••
The MAYOR (Mr.' Cook) having briefly addressed
the electors, •
Mr. W. Hurri‘,,propoi, and, Mr. W. BLAIR
sec .nded, the nomination of the late member, Mr.
Tite. ••• • • ••• .• •

Mr. GEO. NORMAN proposed, and Dr. FALCONER
seconded, the niinatiori of Sir Arthw Elton.
Captain DOLPHIN *posed, and Mr. SAEITif
seconded the.nomination. of Mr. Arthur Way.
Mr. TITE first addressed the electors, and was re-
ceived with cheers and some interruption. He said
he appeiled to the electors of Bath whether he had
keiit his word with them? (Cheers, and "No."
" How.about Roebuck,?'.') He had voted for the
ballot, for an extension of the fratiChige, for admini-
strative •reform—aye and had spoken to—(" Roe-
buck's 'motion."). He *was ashainei to hear the
nonsense about Mr. Roebuck's motion—it had no-
thing tri: do with adininistrative reforin. (Cheers.)
He came to his vote in respect to Lord Palmerston
—(hear,- and disapprobation)"—the electors knew
that hiscame to Bath perfectly unpledged. He came
down to Bath to attend a mectin.g—one of the largest
he ever addressed,, and he found that meeting
unanimous on the question of a peace-loving policy.
The electors of Bath had sent him and his 'col-

league to Parliament, -pledged to a peace-loving
policy. They accepted that pledge, and he did not
mean to say that they did not pledge him, rightly.
(Cheers. and " No.") .He denied that Mr. Cob-
den's motion was a censuze of Lord Pahnerston ; it
nu rely stated that.the papeyslaid befOre the house
faded to present Fatisfactory Wounds for the affair
of the Arrow. He asked any man who had looked
into the blue books tr) say if that way not true? It
was his.con.scientions conviction that it was true,
and he voted on that conviction. (Cheers and in-

tcrrupfien.) He' was 'proud to be a member for
Bath, but Aims even more to feel that he was; an
honest man. (Cheers.). With respect to Lord
Palmerston, there was a meeting of hisiritliiis on
th Monday before the vote. Mr. -Lindsay, a
Lleral;' then told' Lord Palmerston that if he
wcodd only promse. to send out a Venitiotentialy
to Oniea, they would let bygones be bYgOnei and
vote for hinito a man. What did they get in re-
turn ? ••Ailong-winded statement with ,ut
On Thursday Lord Palmerston came doVin to the
house and ated that he proposed to send out a
minister to Ohinl.. (near.). If he had stated that
on the Monday the electors of Bath would not have
had the trouble of being there; and he fi ut 1 not
have had the duty of addressing th In. (Hear.) It
had been charged that he did' hot support Mr. Roe-
buek's
.niotion, and that :therefore he had not sup-

,orted.administrative reform. The first.resolution
on administrative reform was that of Mr. ligard ;
the division was. 48 to 361. That was the fist

time that herevPr"tvent 'into the lobby with a sm)11
number. (A Voce—"You were then askimed of
yourself.") No, he was.not ; he went on. (Cile,rs,
" No," and "Roebuck.") On the 10th of July came
the motion of Mr: Vincent Scully, and then the
adminigtrative reformers divided, 127 to 142.
More recently Lord Goderich brought forward his
motion for administrative reform, and then they
c ivied it against the Government (Loud cheers.)
True, he -voted against Mr. Roebuck's motion,
hut it • was not a motion for 'administrative re-

form; andhevotedagainstitbeeause he believed that
it would compromise the character of the nation,
and embarrass the Government in the midst of a
difficult war. He was an admirer of Lord Palmer-
ston ; he was the • elowereFit .'man he had ever met,
with, without any execution ; he admired his talent
and his tact ; he admired his policy, and she vigour
with which he carried it out(cheers)---he admired
e bishops he had appointed, although they had.
given offence to many/ (Loud cheers.) Hehon-
ouredtbe Minister who had the courage to despise
class interests; he deServed his support; and he
should have it. Mr. Titikthen stated that be bad
voted against the regium donum and ministers'
money, and then proceeded to criticise the chime
of his• opponent,• Mr. Way. - He concluded by in-
viting' the electors to poll early for Tite and Elton.
(Cheers.)
Sir .ARTHUR ELTON, . who was warmly received,
said the nation wanted in the House of Commons
independent men,. who would not fawn or cringe,
but would even brave the indignation of the Piime
Minister, aye, and risk the rude but honest expres-
sion of their constituents' opinion, rather than not
carry out the principles of progress. Of the public
questions of the day, first in order of importance
came the ballot.. (Cheers.) That was the first
measure which ()light to he pres,ed on the at etition
of Parliament, for as yet they did . not rightly
know the honest opinions of the people. (fLar.)
The people in some places could not vote as they
pleased, but as s,me bne else toll them to veee.
The ballot was not pit forward as a panacea, but
as a means of enabling a poOr man to give an hon-
e. 4 vote. (Cheers.) He was in . favour of an ex-
tension of the suffrage on two grounds.. It was not
safe for large bodies in the country to belit with-
out the slightest' influence on t!le le4islation. If
they gave men's opinions no vent they repressed
them, .and they caused them to nurse . feelings
1041 might rankle aid by-and-hie fortit iu
disorder. The pot . man, too,, tattered lore froin,
bad gevernment thin the rich mau—(loud
cheers)--taxa- ien pressed mote tiewily upon firm.
It was a mistake to suppose that • the income
tax, for instance, only.. affectnl- the' rich
and middle classes. lithe middle classes paid that
tax they could not lay out so much on labour, and
as was the case in Lonlon the otherday large num-
bers of labourers were thrown out of employ. He
was for supporting any measure which would ex-
tend the franchise to the misses, who at present
had no more influence with the Leg!slature than
the bench befofe him. (Cheers, and no.) He should
like to see ati`educwional test introduced, and would
give the franchise to clergymen, surgeons, artists,
schoolmasters, and othi-r educated men, although
they might live in lodginr. He was in favour of a
hett4 system of electoral divisions, and would
either. disfranchise the very small boroughs, and
give more members to the larger constituencies, :or
el'e he would add the suirounding hatule•s to the
small b. roughs, so as. to enlarge the electoral bo--
dies aiid lessen personal influence and intimidatiOn.
He was in favour of an extended. education for the
people, because he had faith in education. He was
for education wedded to religion, and fur that rea-
son preferred a system of Government Aid to local
rates. (Cheers and no) He would not support a
school where merely secular, education was given,
and although a Churchman, would prefer his child
being taught by his Dissenting brethren than by no
religious teacher at all. They wanted law reform,
and he for one should never think it beneath the
dignity of a statesman to endeavour to increase the
happiness of his. fellow-subjects. " The greatest
happiness for the greatest number" was what every
Minister ought • to aim at effecting. He was net
ashamed of the old Whig rallying cry of " Peace,
retrenchment, and reform." Peace without dis-
honour to the national flag and name ; retrench-
mentwithout such petty meanness as would weaken
onr national services, and reform without injury to
the basis of our free constitution. He warned the
electors not to be misled by specious remarks, but
to go to the poll and uphold the Liberal cause. •
Mr. A. WAY was received with cheers and some
interruption. He first referred to the observations
of the Mayor as to his having charged him with par-
tiality, and add he felt that the course taken of pnb-
lisiiing the writ on Sunday was offensive to those
holding certain .views.on the Sabbatarian question,
and in the second place the prre!e,,ding touc!ied•him
because he was last on the ht-ld, and it had cheated
him of two days' canvass. (Cheers and interrup-
tion.) However, he • had, as advised by hip
military proposer, attacked them in. column and
en masse, and to-morrow he should bring to bear
the broadsides of the heavy guns around him—
(cheers and laughter)—should see his banner flow
unfurled in victory. (Cheers, and never.) If re•
turned be would maintain the fundamental prin-
ciples of the constitution as laid down at the
glorious revolution in 1688—a limited monarchy,
hereditary-House of Peers, free House of Commons,
an Established Protestant Church, civil and rel,.
gious liberty, and equal laws and equal justicelfor
every individual in the realm. So far Const rvative
on the other hand, he would call himself a Liberal
if they liked it. (Cheers and uproar.) He would
* support all judicious and well-considered measures

of reform.: There was no man who heard him who
did hot know • that reform was wanted in our law,
con! ts, • and that 'our ecc'e.iias,ical court needed
oughrevision. He had be. it surprised to hear
Mr. Tite talk Of Johb Arthur Ra.buok, wh-n he
had voted against him, ;Ind praise L I Palmerston,
whom he had as,isterl in turning out. (Cht ers
snd no.) • To come to other matt, rA. (A voic--;.--
The ballot.) If 'he c,uld 'believe that tie ballet
would by for their bettefit it shoulf.have sup.
port ; but, after tire experience they had had of it
on the Continent, he should not like t► se, it
brought iuto the election system ref En4latl.
(Cheers and uproar.) Sir Ar:hu- Eloo had told
them that it would protect the lowest voter, but
would it not likewise prot ct the dishoire4 voter?
(No, no, and a voice, ChurAt rates.) • He hoped
to see the Church-rate system amended, but he
would not support any ni-asure for the removal
of Oiturdr. rates which did not give a quid pro
quo. (Che,rs and dissent.) Ho wanted to see
Dis,enters contribute' t o one general rate for the sup-
.l2d bTehetime extended,m
• port of the fabrics. ("No, no," and a voice, "The
cf,hainechsitsioe ust come 'when the fiat--
that the feeling at present exis'e I fir it. (Uproar.)
but be:did not believe
They made it a cry for the hustings, but he did '
not believe that they cared ali:iut it. • After stat-
ing that he was for, prudent economy and hoped to
see peace established, he said the. recent cry about
China was made use of in the House of Commons
for patty purposes. (Cheers.). He could' not be-
lieve that Disraeli, Cobden, and men of all shades
of par y found their way into the saute
~lebby by.
accident. He would :put it to the eleetors whether
the Barbarian Yoh deserved support, or their own
countrymen. (Cheers.) Mr. Way concluded by
inviting the support of the electors.
The show of hands was then taken, and there
being a large majority for Tite and Elton, Mr.
Way's mover demanded a poll, which was fixed for
to-morrow (this day.)
Captain SCOBELL, R.N., then addressed the elec-
tors, and, after sundry cheers, the meeting sepa-
rated. • . .

out."
" Turn h:m out ") Some one said " Turn him
Well, they might do so if they pleased, and
he won'd not e'er plain ; but lie hoped teat, .iu
fairness and candour, they would at, all events hear
him before they did so. • (" Hear," and a laugh.)
Teti ye as ago he that came forward to solicit their
suffrages, and for fi ye' yeari by ha .1 l,ad the honour
of leing their riareseetative, and he now. stood
hefo'e them again :to ask their iupport, and be
asked the n to ect. uon.their cal lid aed upright
iiid,cr,•-nents in deciding the ques ion whether he
ow ht ti be returned as their repussntative, and
ir-uch deoision was favourable to him, or wlteiher
it would consign h'in to the shades of private life,
he should'be satisfied. Mr. Chambers then pro-
ceeded to refer to the proceedings of the last Par-
liainew, and said that although it was the fashion
to say it had done nothing, it appeared to him
that it had carried some most important measures.
During. the administration of Lord Palmerston a
safe and honourable •peace had been obtained, and
although at the cdinmeneement'of the war all the
administrative departments of the State appealed
to have broken down in the most melancholy man.'
ner, so much .so that the voice of every one was
hied up in if dignation and disgwit
.at their pro-
ceedings. yet the moment the House of Commons
expressed its opinion upon these matters a great
change took place, and the army which bad before
been in the most depressed and miserable condi-
tion, was speedily raised to a state of the utmost
efficiency ; and it appeared to him that the House
of Commons on this question entirely reflected the
feeling eog_the_peopl,e. of England.. .theue,ptaci,
ceeded t.6"state- that he supported the Government
of Lord Palmerston because he believed he would
bring forward liberal measures, and he asked them
whether they thought they were likely to get any
reform from a Government such as would be formed
by Lord Derby or Mr. Disraeli. If they wanted a
GoVernment that would support the honour of the
country, did they think, after the recent , debate,
that they would effect that object by supporting
Lord .Derby 1 He would not tike an unfair ad-
vantage of his lordship, however, and he was baund
to express an opinion that if he had been in office
he would have acted. in the Chinese question
exactly as Lord Palmerston had done. (Hear,
hear.) If it were so, then he could not help con-
sidering that his vote was a factious vote, and that
it was ungenerous to the Government and unjust
to the country to give such a vote. (Hear, bear.)
Mr. Chambers next proceeded to refer to the pro-
C-edings he had taken in connection with the
Nunneries Bill, and he said he bad done all he could
to pass that measure, because be considere 1 that at

present the young women of this country who
entered such establishments were virtually placed
out of the protection of the law, and he said that if
lie was re-elected it was his intention to introduce
another measure upon the subjeiit, and he believed
he should make out a much stronger ease for its
adoption than he did before. He then stated that
in all his Rirrami,ntary course he hail acted from
a Conscient;ons desire to advance the intere ,ts of his
c,.instituents and the country at large, and although
they might undoubtedly deprive him of the high
honour to which lie now aspired, he did not be-

lieve they would do so ; but if they should, he
should ever feel grateful for the honour they . had
fornietly conferred on him, and for the kirolne4s
he had on so mAny occasions received at their
hands.

Sir M. FAItQuHA.R next stood forward, and was
rect.iv.,(l with !tend cheers. He said that he most
cordially thanked the electors for the kindness he
had received from them during his canvass, and for
the promises of suppor;; that he had received.
They all knew him as a neighbour. He was con-
stintly mixing with them, and they were aware
that, 10 years ago, he came forward as a candidate
to represent them in Parliament., and he was
delighted to find that they had not forgotten
him. (Cheers.) He could assure theta that if
he had consulted .his own personal convenience
he should not have had the honour of address-
ing them on the present occasion. He bad no desire
to pluuee again into politics, but he had received
such pressing solicitations that he could not resist
coming forward as their
.representative. (No, no,
and, a laugh.) It was a slip of the tongue to say
their representative at that moment, but he re-
garded it as a good omen. He came forward solely
at the request of the electors, and he would repeat
the observation that was made by his hon. friend
Mr. Cowper when he first came forward, that it was
his intention to open the borough, and. give the
electors an opportunity of asserting their indepen-
dence. He was surprised that any gentleman should
have ventured to make the assertion that he was
merely the nominee of Lord Salisbury. He was no
man's nominee, and if he was returned he should
go to Parliament as an independent member, and
the representative of the whole body of the electors.
(Cheers.) It bad been said that he had passed three
days at Hatfield House, and that he had come to
Hertford indoctrinated with the opinions of those
he associated with there. In reply to this he would
state that he bad not even seen Lord Salisbury
since last June or July. He had always told them
that he would not pledge. hitnself to any particular
course, but would go into Parliament thoroughly
independent. This dettrinination was confirmed
by what had taken place between the electors and
ene of their late hon. members, Mr. Chambers.
T':ey had on several occasions expressed their dis-
satisfaction at the conduct of that gentleman ; and
what was the reason ? • Why, because in 1852 he
had made a flourish of pledges which h's supporters
thought he had not carried out. (Heir, hear.)
If Viere was any distinction between their two
late hon. members, it appeared to %rim that Mr.
Chambers was the greater Radical of t e two ; and
yet, upon Mr. Locke King's motion for extending
the county franchise, he was found in the majority
of 31 (21 of whom were placement that sup-
ported the Governtnent in. opposing that motion.
(Heir, hear.) He then sail filet nothing but the
determined co ilition that, existe l be7weeu Mr.
Cowater,, „toad Chambers coeld preveat
hair from being Asturrie t, n-14 if
eopteir had oierellt liNetit'btftwreoi-hitru-and•-Mr.
ChNxibns, there .would. be no.doubt of. the resnl,t,
and Ile prg•• d the electors not t, a-Ost tittle endea-
vour that would he made to carry n2"~. `Chambers
into Parliament upon the ehoUlders ofhis ceilPdaeite;t
Sir Mingo Farquhar then proceeded to state that if
he had been in Parliament he should hive step-
ported Lo.d Palmerston upon the China ques
and it was his opinion that no more had been done
than was necessary to vindicate the honour of the
country, add if he was elect d he should support
the Government on that and every other question
in which he felt they were in the right. He would
support every well-considered and rational measure
of reform and although' his opponents professed to
laugh at Ls address and at his coming forward as a
Lib -ral Conservative, they must have supposed that
he bad been asleep for the last-ten years if he had
asked for the suffrages of the electors upon any
ether principles than those he bad avowed in his
address. (Cheers.) With regard to the Chinese
question, it appeared to him that a most gross in-
sult had been offered to the British flag, and that
the British authorities had done no more than their
duty in resenting it ; and although it might have
been disagreeable to his party, upon that question
he should certainly have supportrd Lord Palmer-
ston. (Cheers.) He at the same time, however,
thought that at the outset of the debate, Lord Pal-
merston ought to have informad the house that he
had sent out so able a diplomatist as Lord Elgin
with full powers to settle the dispute, and he be-
lieved that if he had done so the Government would
not have been left in a minority. If he was elected
.he certainly should give no factious opposition to
any measures that might be introiuced, and he
should be the more inclined to support Lord Pal-
merston because he believed that he was really a
Conservative at heart. (" Hear," and a laugh.)
A show of hands was then taken, which was de-
.clared in favour of Mr. Cowper and Sir Minto Far-
quhar. Ap 11 was demanded on behalf of Mr.
Chaml ers, which will commence at eight this (Fri-
day) morning, and finally close at five. Tim con-
test between Mr. Chambers and Sir M. Farquhar
is expected to be a very close one.