The Sun.
London, England, 1857-08-14 00:00:00

FRIDXY EVENtNG,

lIVIP.ZRIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS—(YESTERDAY.)
THE SWANSEA CEMETERY.
On the order of the day being read ter going into com-
mittee on this bill,
The Bishop of St. DA.VIDS called the attention of
their lordships to some charges that had been made
against him by no less a person than the
Secretary of State in the other house. If
the matter merely related to himself he should not have
troubled their lordships with any observations, but the
mater was of deep interest to the clergy of the Church of
England, and such being the case, it was his duty to
enter into some car lanation. In the first place,
be solemnly protested, if guilty of any violation of
the law, it had been committed most unumsciomly,
and nothing that had occurred warranted such a
charge against him. The charge against him was
that. he bad not availed himself of the discretionary
power vested in him before he did the act for which he
had been so harshly censured. The right rev. prelate, who
made a statement to their lordships the other evening
bad by mistake very much overstated the income
of the Vicar of S voinsea. The total income
of the vicar from all sources only amounted to 981. per
annum. A correspondence between himself and
the Burial Board, a copy of which he held in
his hand, bad been printed and circulated, from which
it appeared that he had been applied to consecrate a new
burial ground, to which request he wrote to the
board exeressing his v, illiegness to consecrate
the ground provided. A conveyance was provided to
convey the vicar to and fro as he resided a considerable
distance from the spot, and was in possession of so small
an incense that he did not think such a re-
quest unreasenatle, but the members of the Burial
Board refused to accede to such a request, and the re-
sult was that he had refused to consecrate the cemetery.
Earl GRANVILLE thought that the bishop had
acted coirrary to the spirit and letter of the law.
The Bishop of ST. DAVID'S denied this.
The Bishop of OXFORD moved an amendment to
the clause which proposed the forming of pauper burial-
grounds. Such a distinction in death was invidious.
Earl GRANVILLE thought the paupers were of a
different opinion. They preferred being buried with their
friends and relatives.
Tneir,lordsliips did not laugh at this, but went on in
a conversational style, until not being able to agree they
divided—Contents, 22 ; non-contents, 18; majority, 4.
The claw:a was, therefore, agreed to.
Earl FORTESCUE pointed out the sufferings of the
London clergy from their dead being taken from them.
He wished to restrict the number of interments in
cemeteries to two in one grave, and four in any one day,
but the noble earl took nothing by this objection. He
then followed it up by objecting to the clause which gave
an appeal to the archbishop, to a burial board in cases
where a dispute arose between them and the bishop of
the diocese.
The Bishop of LONDON supported the clause.
Lord DUNGANNON and the Bishop of OXFORD
opposed it.
Lord WENSLEYDALE suggested that the cemetery
might be shut up for years while the bishop and arch-
bishop settled their quarrels. He moved, therefore, an
amendment that if the Home Secretary declared the
cemetery in a fit state, any clergyman
offi
ciate
pending ociate
pending the settlement of any question in abeyance.
The amendment was agreed t".
On the clause regulating fees, &c.,
The Bishop of LONDON moved that the fees be the
same for burial in unconsecrated as in consecrated

ground.
The Bishop of OXFORD supported the motion. He
considered it a great scandal that there should be any
huckstering and cheapening to induce the relatives of the
dead to bury them as Dissenters.
On this their lordships divided—
For the clause as it stood ............ 14
For the amendment ........................ 12
Majority
The remaining clauses were agreed to, after a fruitless
attempt of the Bishop of Orford at delay,
The Boundaries of Boroughs Extension (Scotland)
Bill passed through committee.
The Municipal Corporations Bill was read a third time
and passed. -
The Married Woman's Reversionary Interest Bill was
passed through committee.
The New Z salsa-id Loan Company's Bill, the New Zea-
land Company's Claims Bill, and the New Zealand Go-
vernment Act Amendment Bill were passed through
committee.
DIFFICULTIES AT CONSTANTINOPLE.
Lord CLANRICARDE said that it was perhaps
hardly necessary to put the question of which he had
given notice, as it had been asked in the other house, and
an esetremely satisfactory answer had been given. The
house bad received an assurance that though difficulties
had arisen at Constantinople, there -was no danger that
they would generate any change in the political relations
of Europe, or would affect the atiance, which was a mat-
ter of greater importance to this country than any of the
details of the settlement of the Principalities. He coin-
s lained, however, that documents were not placed on
the table which were fully circulated out of doors. From
such documents a belief prevailed that the interference
of the Porte in the elections had been such as to render
the whole proceedings absurd as the supposed expression
of the feeling of the people. Ile hoped nothing would
be done till there had been a fair and free election. The
noble lord concluded by putting his question.
Lord CLARENDON said it was true there had been a
great de'ay in coming to a titfinito conclusion in this
matter, but it mn.t he remembered that one of the chief
causes of that delay was the difilcul!y as to Bessarabia.
It was felt that the elections would not proceed till the
Austrian occupation had ceased, as it would not be
thought that the elector could be free in the presence of
Austrian bayonets. .But on account of the season, neither
could the troops be removed nor could the commissioners
proceed to their posts, and so they did not commence
operations till May. Then the firnan which had been
settled at Constantinople was understood in a different
sense in Moldavia and Wallachia, so that it had to be
referred back to Constantinople to decide on the correct
interpretation. When the protocols came to be laid on
the table, they would find that the conduct of Sir Henry
Bulwer had I)s:ea of the most impartial character. It
would not be fair to publish at present the protocols, in
which six powers were concerned, and which at present
were regarded a° confidential. The real point of diffe-
rence had been the interpretation of the firman as applied
to Moldavia. It had been decided that it should be inter-
pretated in the same manner as for Wallachia, except in
some details which necessarily differed from the circum-
stances of the country. The elections bad been pro.
ceeded with and completed in the meanwhile. Some of
the powers protested against the Divan as not fairly re
presenting the people, but th Sultan did not think it
would be becoming to his dignity to act upon that sug-
gestion, unless he was requested to do so by the unani-
mous voice of all the powers. Thus arose misunder-
standings which were not much amended by telegraphic
despatches being misunderstood. It so happened that
the interruption became known just at the moment
when the Emperor of the French arrived at Osborne,
which afforded an opportunity of revising the whole of
this very complicated matter, and led to a conclusion
that though titee had been no regular scrutiny upon
which the elections could be declared null and void had
they occurred in this country, yet there was a prima
facie case against the fairness and regularity of the
elections. It was felt that it was for the interest of the
Porte that no doubt of the faithful representation
of the people should exist. He trusted that the
Sultan having vindicated his dignity by the course he
had taken, would consent to Erant the request of the
other Powers, and ho believed there would be no diffi,
culty in carrying out the suggestions.
LORDS SUMMONED.
On the motion of Lord MONTEAGLE of Brandon,
the standing order of the 3d July, respecting the refer-
ence to the Lord Chancellor or Lord Keeper of the
Great Seal, of claims and rights of voting at the election
of representative peers of Ireland, should be extended to
the case of parties who claim the right of voting by
virtue of peerages, under which votes have been given
and admitted at the election for such representative
peers of Ireland.
WILLS, &sc., OF BRITISH SUBJECTS ABROAD
On the motion for the second reading of this bill,
Lord WENSLEYDALE contended that all the pur-
poses woul f be secured by proper instructions being
given to the consuls, which might be done by a note,
thus rendering the Lill unnecessary. If wills were made
in duplicate, one according to the law of the country,
and the other according to the law of England, all diffi-
culty would be removed.
Lord CLARENDON, with all respect for the sugges-
tions of the noble and learned lord, supported the bill
He could assure his noble and learned friend that he
would give his best attention to the matter, as well as his
noble friend on the woolsack ; and it they could devise
any means by which the diplomatic consular agents
abroad could give the information suggested, it should
be done.
Lord WENSLEYDALE said the necessary instruc-
tions to diplomatic and consular agents might be given
in the shape of a short note. On the second reading of
the bill he should move a resolution to that effect.
JOINT-STOCK COMPANIES BILLS.
The LORD CHANCELLOR presented a petition
from Mr. M'Dougall, of the Tipperary Bank, complain-
ing of the unfair preference given to judgment creditors
by this bill, and praying that that defect might be re-
medied in the present measure.
The motion that the bill, as amended, be taken into
consideration on Monday next was agreed to, and their
.ordships adjourned at ten minutes past nine o'clnck.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.-(YESTERDAY.)
OFFICIAL DEBTORS (IRELAND).

Iu reply to Mr. HATOIIELL,
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL for IRELAND said
it was the intention of Government next session to bring
in a bill to withdraw the protection from arrest from
official debtors in Ireland, in accordance with the recom-
mendation of the Dublin C
UNATlCS.hamber ol Commerce.
L
Oa the motion of Mr. TITE, the following returns
wore ordered—Returns of the date and number of days
on which the Board of Visitors of Lunatics, assembled
between the let day of Jan., 185t3, and the let day of
Jan. 1857, and the names of the visitors of lunatics pre-
sent at the board on each day of meeting; of the number
of lunatics found so by inquisition, and living on Jan. 1,
1816 ; similar returns on Jr.n. 1, 1857 ; return of the
numbr of lunatics actually visited by the medical visi-
tors between Jan. 1, 1856, and Jan. 1, 1857 ; and of the
number of inquisitions whioh have been superseded in
the years 1854, 1855, and 1856.
AUSTRALIAN COLONIES.
On the motion of Mr. MA.CARTNEY the following
returns were ordered:—Returns of the names, tonnage,
and horse-power of allvesseis surveyed by the Admiralty