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London, England, 1857-07-25 00:00:00

BUSINESS OF TilE HOUSE.

The Earl of DERBY referred to a notice he had
given last session to his noble friend (Lord Rede-dale)
for the appointment of a particular day after
which their lordships would not consider the
merits of bills sent up to that house. He coul
readily understand why his noble friend, in the present
session, had not given notice, because the real business
of Parliament not 'having commenced till May, it was
considered inconvenient to fix a day for the final con-
sideration of bills. They had now, however, arrived
at a period so advanced that it would be very agreeable
to both sides of the house that n) more bills should be
submitted to their consideration. (Heer.) He trusted
therefore it would not be thought unreasonable if he
suggested to the propriety of naming a day for the final
disposal of a!! the bills requiring a second reading. He
thought the Government would see the convenience of
acquiescing in such arrangements.
Lord REDESD,ILE said it was true he was pre-
vented from moving the usual sessional order in con-
sequence of the period at which Parliament was called
together. At the same time he might inform
their lordships that everything that had since
occurred only the more convinced him that itsvas highly
important such a resolution should be adopted. If such
an order had existed he was persuaded that the business
of the other house would be much more advanced than

it was at the present moment. He did not now feel
disposed to move such a resolution
The Earl of INIALMESBURY (alter a abort pause)
said he thought the subject deserved some notice by the
Government.

Lord GRANVILLE said that at an early period of

the session he had been in communication with the
noble lord (Redesdale) on the subject, and it was
then arranged that owing to the advanced period at which
Parliament met, it would be inconvenient if such a re-
schtion was agred to.
The Earl of DERBY said he had already admitted
the peculiar cir,umstances of the present session, and he
therefore trusted that the Government would fix a day
themselves for the final consideration of measures that
it was important should be passed during the present
session,

TOLL REFORM.
In answer to Lord RAVENSWORTII,

Earl GRANVILLE said the present session was too
far advanced for the introduction of a bill on the subject.

Government would direct attention'to it during the recess
with a view of ascertaining the best course 0 be pur-

sued. The Home Secretary was at present in communi-
cation with the Commissioners of Roads on the subject.
MENIORI XL TO THE LATE LORD RAGLAN.
Earl FORTESCUE asked whether it was the inten-

tion of the Government to erect a monument to the late
Lord Raglan ? Elliteen months had now elapsed since
the close of the late war. The honours and distinctions
of that war had been bestowed by the hand of the Sove-
reign on their fortunate possessors. (aear, hear.) In
raferrirg t) the deserts of Lord Raglan, I.e would only
notice those points which were unquestionable, and
wt.uld refer as little as pos-itle to the merits of other par-
ties. The expedition to the Crimes, though determined on
in April 1354, had been only carried cut in Septem-
ber of that year ; and it required all the energy, skill,
and influence of Lord Raglan, with our allies, to carry it
to a succes-ful issue, The landing was effected without
the loss of a single boat or man ; and the heights of the
Alma were speedily won. It was now well known that,
immediately after that victory, Lord Raglan urged the
pursuit of the enemy ; and it was now admitted by the
Russians themselves that had that bold course been

taken, Sebastopol must have been ours in the course of a
few days. In the disasters which followed, the British
public and the British press had been unsparing in their
censure of those who neglected to make due provision for
the undertaking. It should be remembered how confi-
dently it was predicted that. Sebastopol would fall in a
few weeks, and on more than one occasion a report was
circulated, and generally believed, that the fortress had
been taken. There was every reason to believe that the
object would have been gi-fined had Lord Raglan's ad-
vice in the first instance been taken ; and it was probable

the public would not have approved of an amount of I re-
paration which no one supposed would be needed. After
the battle of Inker mannA he same advice was given by
Lord Raglan as t the pursuit of the disordered Russian
army ; and the French general had since admitted that
he was mistaken in not following that advice. The ex-
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pedition to Kertch was attended with a success which
lift nothing to regret. The failure of the attack
on the Redan on the 18th of June had sariowly affected
Lord Raglan. The distress and vexation of that failure
hastened his death, which occurred ten days afterwards.
(Rear.) His personal qualifications were undoubted ;
his imperturbable gallantry had been testified to by Mar-
shal St. Arnaud—no mean judge—as worthy of the
heroes of ancient times. (Hear.) Lord Raglan pos.
sensed also the much rarer virtue of great fortitude un-
der circumstances of difficulty and distress ; and his

simple, frank courtesy won the hearts, as his greatjudg-
went convinced the minds, of all with whom he came ICI
contact. (Hear.) Nor would the historian forget to
record his constant and unwearied exertions to promote
as far as he could the comfort and to alieviate the suffer-
ings of his men—exertions to which the best testimony
was the enthusiastic affection with which he was re-
ceived by his troops upon every occasion when he was
recognised by any portion of there in his frequent but
unostentatious visits, by day and by night, to their camps
and to their quartets. (dear.) That Lord Raglan,
with his singular modesty, should not have valued him-
self upon the possession of qualities which he considered
were common to every soldier, or upon deeds which he
looked on as among the simplest duties of a commander,
no one who knew him would wonder at ; but it might
fairly be asked, when his strategical movements were
attacked and invidiously compared with what were sup-
posed to be the greater energy and rapidity exhibited
on the part of the French, it might fairly be asked why
he had never sought to justify himself ? Those who
had seen the private correspondence of Lord Raglan
would bear him out when he said that the noble ford
never suffered a line to go forth from his pen which
could convey the idea that any difference of opinion ex-
isted between himself and the Commander-in-Chief of
our allies ; because with the true spirit of a patriot and
a hero he preferred to suffer blame to be cat upon
himself rather than put in hazard for one moment that
good understand between the two armies which he felt
to be a prime ingredient in the success of that great cause
which he had so much at heart. (Cheers.) These were
the grounds upon which be (the noble earl) asked for
the late Lord Ragland the distinction which had been
conferred upon other couinsanders who bad died in the
service of their country. The noble lord concluded by
asking whether—if not now, at some future and more
favourable opportunity—the Government would be pre-
pared to take the course pointed out in the question he
had address to them
Lord PANNI ORE bad listened with great satisfaction
to the tribute which his noble friend had thought it but
right to pay to the memory of the late Lord Raglan.
The noble earl must not suppose that because the Go-
vernment bad not proposed to the other House of Par-
liament a vote for a marble monument, they were in
sensible to the services rendered by Lord Raglan, or that
they did not feel that those services bad been attended
with beneficial results. He hoped, too, the noble earl
would not say that the public of this country had not
fully expressed their opinion upon the unhappy death of
the gallant lord whese merits their lordships were now
discussing. In point of fact, they bad expressed, by the
votes of both Houses of Parliament, the attact.nsent they
felt to the memory of the trible and gallant lord. He
(Lord Panmure) looked upon those votes as a public
testimony to public services, and in that spirit they
had been proposed. With regard to public monu-
ments, the Govesnruent were compelled to be cautious
how they were bestowed. In the military history
of our country (with the exceptions his noble friend
had pointed out) every public monument that had been
placed upon the walls cut the cathedral in the city or the
neighbouring abbey, had been decreed to commanders
who had fallen in the execution of their duty. But Lerd
sedan was not without his monument. A sum of
20,0001. had been set apart for the erection in the East
of a monument dedicated to the memory of the sold mere,
sailors, and marines who had fallen in the service of their
country. The most conspicuous object which would
meet the gaze of all who approached Constantinople
would be this monument, which would shertity be erected
by this country to the memory Of her sons ; and the first
name that would be inscribed upon it would be that of
Lord Raglan, in association with those of his gallant
comrades in arms who bad perished with him in the
war. (Hear.) He (Lord Paninure) did not mean to
say that this country would not at some future time en•
tertain the proposition ; but he wonld remind their lord
ships that in eras:tine a public monument; whether to a
statesman or to a soldier, it must, in the first place, be
done with the full concurrence and approbation of the
people ; and next, in order to make these memorials
valued, it must be for services of the highest character
which either a statesman or a soldier could render.
Lord BROUGHAM was understood to say that the
answer of the noble lord would have been most unfor-
tunate, even if p rsonal feelings only were involved—
(cheers)—even if the only question bad been one of time
private virtues of Lord Raglan, that gentle nature
which bad ever been found in alliance with brilliant
courage—(hear)—even if they had only to regard his
great and useful services in a long life devoted to
his country—(lwed cheers)—in a moat difficult office,
from his earliest years, when, to the astonishment of his
young contemporaries, be was singled out by the unerr
ing sagacity of that great captain, who from time at-
tached him to his person, and continued to repose his
confidence in him till the last hour of his illustrious life ;
and who, had he fortunately been spared to them, would
oa that day have been performing the duty which ti.ei