The Sun.
London, England, 1861-02-14 00:00:00

.76
1 e

A7.-'---1-e-e-/e-

NEWSPAPER

—e---r.--a7
734 _
e : h r (1 ,9 r 4 ::Ejw,,l7ss.
,rk
'--/ ". ~..:tc---0-0.,,....,2 ,r-4
4.(1 ~...
~ .. ~..,,. -0 nrcri ~.. rt 471/110111
, t , c_.4.1,11 Lr.. 7.1.1. T l
it -,,, ...k)....f ~- 4 ''s '*
1) ' 6"' / , , ~.....0", 2,,,. ~.....
. c./.. - ( N•7l '-' '4' '' "a
.:! n - it' r cf., , Ai' ‘'.. lif , .
_ __
apv,,,,,.,_>-:,,-7 .
, _ • // %) Z .'/r --( • - < _ .-c.'e-
.—_ t A lih',... A .. '!. I ' • 41 ' 'ir.
. / 1 111114—"4N‘
.r.ARLIAMYIIei
I.- f
11---
AC* 41 ..:-..4
{9:l i
....M. 1
ii,,,„ vs, • or,• 4
0.; ,„.„.
it
V9fr- •"-,- ' er .s. A - 'lts . 7,,, ti MR. WA.RNBR, M.P., AND s
REFORM:
00):4 9 ' ' 1g
4/Mli
(,•4- ,
t ,.„,vvi--_ . ...„.„. A,
.4, , „ Ito
',4,.,. j) . -1
i .9'.. * r -,\ti r:
AZi ' .
b*.N, ' - z-4",,,_,-, ,-, ---#---- , -_-_:-._.• ~------ ---?. ,-iv .„ ,•6•4411,1111111iv, • :2 • '''' 9' -._ :,..-tair
• . ',1,7 ' g '"5-7 c. ''' -''-7,:igi3A1,1 • wll P x, up tyi ,‘, ~-.., \V. 1 • ' ;it: ce • itc--, •-.'
Z' 1 'Nf -=.41" 2.-, '''''''; -1/4'44-.,.) liil'tr---- ~• 4.• , tAV. ,
th t
' 1,0 U.... .) ' . ' I ii..... ' ...,.• I, C,'. \ d ~. , s. .... RM. '' 4 jr, ~_
.----___, 11"-.14N N. + betTvvheeenfoalnloweli
en
cgtocrororfesNpoonrdweincehe :lads
Mr. Warner
arp
nlaecre,
, „„„ , M.P. for that city :

" Norwich, Feb. 7.

PRICE 4D. STAMPED, SD.

" Dear Sir,—l cannot express to you how grieved
I am at finding your name among the majority
voting against the Reform amendment on the
address.

TRE IN IN HOLLAND.

A letter from Aisterdam, dated Feb. 11, says
" Thank God the frightful desolation of our inun-
dated districts begins to. abate, and the waters are
returning to their natural channels. But what
scenes of distress, agony, and penury do they leave
behind them ! Some villages are entirely de-
stroyed ; not a vestige of a habitation remains to
show that they were the dwelling-place of man.
Nearly 40,000 acres of etritiy,s.ted land have been
submerged., and their cultivators been driven from
their dwellings to seek shelter in schools and
churches, and to eat the bread of charity. The
number of cattle drowned or killed it is impossible
to state with accuracy, but it is said to amount to
several thousand. This, however, is a slight calamity
compared with the loss of human life, which, not-
withstanding every effort made by the authorities
to render assistance, has swollen to a high figure.
When the dyke broke at Lecuwen the waters
rushed through with such fearful violence as to
carry all before them ; houses, barns, and trees
tumbled down at their approach; how; then, could
the labourers on the dyke and their families resist
the crushing strength of the flood and the ice
masses? The descriptions sent me from the scene
of desolation are really shocking. What the poor
creatures, whose homely dwellings but recently
afforded them a comfortable shelter, have had
to encounter in . the form of cold, naked-
ness,' and starvation, is almost increaitle.
Truth, indeed, in this ease is stranger, much
stranger than fiction. One family of eight has
entirely disappeared—carried away by the flood,
after enduring all the horrors with which frost and
hunger are always accompanied. Among all the
survivors there is mourning, lamentation, and woe,
not only on account of desolated homes, but on
account of parents, children, and friends whom
this fearful plague of waters has wrenched from
their embrace. Never, perhaps, has the spirit of
charity and love been so diffused among a people as
it is now among the Dutch, as they listen to the
tales of sorrow of the bereaved and the desolate.
In unstinted measure they give of their abundance
through the length and breadth of the land. The
King, attended by other members of the Royal
family, has just returned from a visit to the inun-
dated districts, where he won for himself the
affection of his smitten subjects by his bounty and
sympathy. In a letter to the Minister of the In-
terior he has declared that, on the 19th instant (his
birthday), a collection shall be made through the
whole country, from door to door, for the benefit of
the survivors of this fearful visitation, and in addi-
tion to the 20,000 guilders he has already given has
headed the national subscription with a contribu-
tion of ,40,000 guilders. No wonder that on his
return yesterday from his mission of mercy he was
hailed, wherever he passed, with those acclamations
which burst forth only from a nation's love and
admiration.

At
itwtahae
olanstthtaw o
to
question iea
three
tio elections
npre_emi fornent this city
pre-eminently that
ata
vltheaorugyourself
emfaquestionjaonrai t
soy fi
ofr Reform
Williamhf oermv otheaaßs
werebeenu
ss Russell.
lgt.
given
testingeTn hei n f
favour
o
and
r point,o f
prevailing
opinion here has beea that, at all events, in your
hands' that question was safe so far as your vote
measure
ofL tllarsdt
could make it so. I deeply regret the conduct of
the Ministry in throwing over the question, but
much more do I regret that such tergiversation
should be endorsed with the vote of our own Reform
representative.
" A section of your supportors no doubt sympa-
thi
s e with
Palmerston
session, and with him rejoice in the present oppor-
tunity of giving it the go-by, albeit at the expense
the
brought half -.h earte dn
forward e s st
the
eitmh
su which
of their consistency; but I am quite sure that the
larger portion of your supporters ,will view with
most serious concern the vote which you have ,
given.
',trust I have not, expressed myself' in the
above remarks disrespectfully, but having on every
occasion worked earnestly
.and cordially in your
behalf, I must give expression to the disappoint-
nient which I feel.—l am, dear sir, yours truly,
'" Edward Warner' Esq., M.P. J. C.
" P. S. My remarks as to the vote apply with still .
stronger force:as to your threatened amendment on.
Mr. Locke King's motion."

F
" dearSrironl,—lrieeWl aorbnleire,ellal.ro.
,you for the
opp.ortunity which your 'candour gives me of ex-
plaining anything in my public Conduct which may
seem inconsistent.
"No one can regret more than I do the course
which the Government has taken in regard to Re-
form, and the tone which Lord John Russell thought
fit to assume in sneaking of it. But approving, as
I do heartily, his policy and theirs on the question.
which is now most important of all, the preservation.
of the peace of Europe, and contrasting it With the
ill•defined, but, to my mind, most dangerous views
put forward by Mr. Disraeli, I could not think it
right to play into the hands of the Opposition by
joining in attacks on the Government, where BO
practical end was to be obtained by doing so.
" The vote of Tuesday night simply amounted to
a declaration that it was not then desirable to pass
censure •on Ministers for the omission of Reform in.
the Queen's Speech. Many Liberal members, lam
aware, left the house in order not to vote at all.
My opinion, formed on the grounds I have stated,
was a very decided one, and I thought it the more
consistent course to express that opinion by my
vote.
" With regard to my notice of amendment to Mr.
Locke King's motion, I have no doubt whatever
that when the debate comes on I shall be able to
justify my conduct. There may be some truth in.
the common saying, that a select committee is often
used for shelving inconvenient questions, but the
case is different when, for all practical purposes, the
question is already on the shelf.
" You say that others have taken the same view
of my conduct that you have done. You are, of
course, at liberty to communicate this letter to them.
and indeed you will oblige me by doing so. —4 am,
yours very faithfully, EDWARD %VARNER.
" Westminster Palace Hotel, London, S.W.,

February 8."
'
(Reply.)
" Norwich, Feb. 9.
" Dear Sir,--I beg to acknowledge your favour of
the Bth instant. I do not for a moment suppose
that you have acted otherwise than with perfect
conscientiousness in the vote you gave on Tuesday
night, as well as in the notice of amendment on:
Mr. Locke King's motion for the extension of the
county franchise. All who know you will bear
ready testimony to .your honesty of purpose and
unflinching adherence to principle.
" I cordially concur, too, in your warmly expressed
approbation of the foreign policy of Lord John,
Russell, and should be sorry to furnish Lord Derby
and Mr. Disraeli with an opportunity of giving offi-
cial importance to their Austrian and despotic ten-
dencies.
" Nevertheless, I cannot accept your conclusions
on the subject of parliamentary reform, nor give
you reason to think that the explanation of your
conduct with reference to it will be satisfactory to
that portion of your supporters who, like myself,
advocate a full, fair, and free representation of the
people in Parliament.
" An earnest advocacy of the Ministerial foreign
policy is not incompatible with a legitimate and
thorough development of our representative in-
stitutions. The Cabinet,' to say the least, has
trifled :with the question of parliamentary reform.
They have invited defeat by languid advocacy, and
then tamely acquiesced in it as a thing inevitable.
On Tuesday night the liberal members had a fine
opportunity of rebuking this half-hearted policy,
and demanding from the Ministry the faithful fulfil-
ment of their pledges to the country on their
acceptance of office.
"It is an old Tory argument to deny that the
present is the proper time for reform. If left to
them, the right opportunity would river come. I
regret that you are influenced by the bugbear of
Tory ascendancy. If the Government
were in
earnest on reform, only let the Tories defeat them,
and then an appeal to the country would soon settle
the question, and render them omnipotent for good,
alike as to their home and foreign policy.
" Rderring more especially to Mr. Locke King's
motion, you observe that your amendment will not
shelve it, because it is already on the shelf.' But
who put it there? and why paralyse the hand that
would remove it from its quiet resting-place ? Itb
has been shelved because the Ministry undertook
themselves to carry the measure, and, failing to
fulfil their engagment, the natural guardian assumes
the parental care of the child, which for a time he
had delegated to other, but, as it proves, less faith-
ful protectors. It does not appear to me to be
consistent with an honest desire for the well-being-
of the child to interfere in the resumption of parental
authority. The attempt to thwart Mr. Locke King
might consistently come from the Tory benches ;
but when a reformer suggests the impediment to
his success it inevitably raises the suspicion of
treason to the cause itself.
" I do not for a moment believe that you contem-
plate anything of the kind; but I am at a loss to
anticipate the argument which will preface the
amendment, and which will result in a different
conclusion.—l am, dear sir, yours faithfully,
" J., C.
" To Edward Warner, Esq., M.P."

HOLIDAYS AND "FOLLOWERS" FOR

SER VANTS.

Dr. Guthrie, in the course of a speech at
have Biggar,
other day, said :—" J want every servant
and liberty within certain bounds ; :l/id that is not liberty
hol ,
the
iday,
that has no bounds, but license. ell,
have no followers.'
to
(Cheers.) .w I re-
ctholelreectona sceroNn,adnittiownhothwactn,tshto Low,n,o,:nsdan in this house who
toon and she was hired
Now, I say is there
such
a rule
(Laughter and loud
cheers.) It is a
would not rebel against monstrous e_ we
onstrous-thing. Why, the world
would come to
itfhethwaotrlrud
tleo
dwoa; t b
is
to take place. (Lauraine n ohad
ere. 7 r e
Anm adn what
(Renewed laughter.)
servant would like to have boundlessr.c I say that is not the way to treat a
servant. No goo
liberty, but I say that every servant should have liberty
to have their holiday, and that every servant should have
liberty to see their lad in a decent hour. (Laughter and
cheers.) I say any attempt to fly in the face of the laws
of nature and Providence can only lead to mischief.
(Hear, hear.) And to prevent a decent servant girl being
courted is folly in the first instance, for she will be
courted whether you will or no. (Laughter and cheers.)
And, in the second place, to refuse a servant girl proper
time and opportunities for being courted is to drive them
into dangerous times of being courted. (Hear, hear, and
cheers.) Therefore, my rule is, that between the hours
of seven and nine o'clock at night the servant shall
have freedom to introduce into the kitchen any re-
spectable lad that may be paying his addresses to her.
(Loud cheers.) But then a servant has friends, and neigh-
bours, and acquaintances in town. Well, she is as well
entitled to see them as the master and mistress are to see
their friends. (Applause.) Why, there is as good a heart
within a servant's breast, and as good a brain within a
servant's head, as in mine, and I say that to deny a servant
the innocent gratification of those feelings of love and
friendship that are common to all classes, is a cruelty and a
crime. (Cheers.) That is what I say. But how do we
meet that in our house ? Why, it is met thus—once a fox t-
night the servants in our house have an opportunity in
their turn of going out between certain hours of cn evening,
throwing dishclouts and coppers, and pots and p
heels—(laughter)—and dressing up and spending
at
the whole
evening visiting their acquaintances ;
and
they do their
(Cheers.)
work in my house far better on that
account.
venture to say
That is the way to treat servants, and I
a great benefit to
that if servants were always treated in t
themsolves.” (Cheers.)hivat way, their mas-
ters would find that it was no butloss,

e