The Sun.
London, England, 1861-11-09 00:00:00

HUNGARY.

The Debats discusses the question of Hun-
gary in an article extending to nearly three
columns. That journal has always declared itself
in favour of the acceptance by that country of the
Statute submitted to the approbation of the Diet by
the Austrian Government. But no one at Pesth
would hear of sending to the Reichsrath the 83
deputies who Were to represent Hungary. Under
such circumstances the Debats suggests a compro-
mise, but first explains the state of the difference
between the Hungarians and the mother-country,
commencing with arguments used by the former.
It says :

" Setting aside the secondary circumstances of
this discussion—a discussion perhaps unprece-
dented in history—this is what we find : Hun-
gary says, I have a Constitution eight centuries
old, and I do not mean to change anything in it
in favour of a constitution which, so to speak, is
only a day old. lam united to the House of Austria
by lateral contract, and in that contract, in which
I was the principal party, I will not modify a let-
ter in favouf of a Constitution of which I did not
draw up a single article—a Constitution which
besides can possess in my eyes no other merit than
that of having succeeded to ten years of illegal
restraint. Let, therefore, the King of Hungary,
to whom I wish to remain faithful, not impose on
me a Statute which has nothing to do with my
ancient laws. That the said Statute has been pro-
mulgated is a matter of no consequence, for the
King of Hungary has no need of the consent of any
one to abolish it as far as Hungary is concerned.
Such are the terms on which a reconciliation may
be made between the Hungarian people and their
Severeign.' "

The article then proceeds to give the arguments
on the other side :

" The Reichsrath replies The empire of Aus-
tria now possesses a liberal statute ; the people of
the provinces within the Leitha have a multitude of
reasons for not showing themselves too delicate on
the question of that statute being accorded.' They
think that, as bitter experience has proved to the
world, liberty granted from above is preferable to
servitude voted from below. The statute has stipu-
lated for Hungary, as for the rest of the empire; and
supposing that in doing so it was wrong, we, the de-
puties of the Reichsrath, can do nothing in the mat-
ter. Though accomplished without Hungary and_
without us the thing is not the less done. If we admit
that the Emperor has the power to change, without
our consent, a single article of the statute, there is
ao longer any statute. If he were to abolish
or modify, as an act of his own good pleasure, what
concerns Hungary, he could one of these days abolish
without our consent what regards us. If the statute
is to be modified, it is with us that Hungary must
negotiate, although to treat with us is in some de-
gree to recognise our jurisdiction, and to admit
what was in question.' Our readers see that on
boih sides the reasons are strong."

The nature of the arrangement which it proposes
is set forth in the following extract ;
" There is one mode of proceeding which many
men of Pesth are ready to accept, and which would
certainly obtain the support of part of the Reichs-
rath at Vienna. Instead of confounding the dele-
gation of the Hungarian Diet in the Chamber of
Deputies of the empire, it is proposed to make
that delegation a separate Chamber sitting at
Vienna, and invested with full powers by
the Diet of Pesth to decide, in concert with the
Chamber of Deputies and the Chamber of Nobles of
the empire, the few affairs which the statute of
February has declared common to Hungary and
the rest of the empire. This Hungarian Chamber,
a member of the Parliament of Vienna, without
being absorbed in it, could discuss in conjunction
with the Reichsrath the portion of the taxes to be
imposed on Hungary for general expenses, the fix-
ing of the Hungarian contingent, the common
works of public utility, and the measures to be
taken in the interest of commerce, which by its
nature has greater need to remove frontiers than
to strengthen them. In this manner Hungary
would no longer have reason to fear that her
deputies would only form in the Reichsrath an
indistinet group, with force sufficient to de-
fend the peculiar institutions of Hungary
against ably-disguised usurpations; and on the
other hand, the empire of Austria would no longer
present the singular phenomenon of a sovereign
more unfortunate than the child in the judgment
of Solomon, cut in two between Vienna and Pesth,
rushing incessantly from one city to the other,
responsible before two Diets, which would be sup-
posed to know no more of each other than the Em-
peror of China knows of the King of Dahomey,
obliged to govern half his empire by means of
diplomatic couriers, and to send ambassadors to his
own subjects. For our part we are not disposed
either to conceal the inconveniences or to exagge-
rate the merits of the proposed arrangement, which
is not quite the personal union demanded by Hun-
gary, and not quite the real union which the sta-
tute of February wished to establish on a small
number of points. It is a compromise in the style
of that of Missouri, and such are not out of the
reach of tempests."

The financial accounts from Paris show less un-
easiness, but very little tendency to any general recovery of
confidence. The speculators, however, feel certain that
every effort will be made to create animation, in order that
the requisite loan may be obtained, and it is assumed that
the contemplated return of M. Fould to the Ministry of
Finance is in connection with that object. The demand for
discount in Paris is not very active, and the rate in the
open market is 5 per cent, below that of the Bank of
France.

DESTRUCTION OF A LIVERPOOL SHIP BY
Yesterday, intelligence reached Liverpool of the destruction
by fire of the skip Sovereign of the Seas. The news, which
came by telegram from Alexandria under date of the sth
inst., states that the ship was burnt at Sidney on the 23d
Sept. last. The fire having consumed her to the water's
edge, she was scuttled, and sunk in 20 feet of water. The
cargo in the lower hold is said to be uninjured by the fire;
the hull hae been raised, and the cargo was to be landed
forthwith. The Sovereign of the Seas was a splendid ship
of 1,226 tons burden, commanded by Captain Cruickshank.
She sailed from this port for Sidney on the 27th May last,
having a number of passengers and a large cargo. She was
chartered by Messrs. James Baines and Co. and Messrs
Fernießrother A
Brothers.—Liverpool
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duck is surrounded, as well as the goods contained in them.
As soon as the vessel was hauled out she was laid along-
side of the quay of the Albert Basin, and a plentiful supply
of hose was attached to the numerous hydrants fixed at
different points along the quay. On the main hatch being
uncovered, it was found that the cargo immediately under
and around it, consisting of cotton, was on fire. An
attempt to reach the seat of fire was made through the
chain hatch by the third mate, who had scarcely descended
into the hatch before he fell senseless on the floor, suffo-
cated by the fumes of the burning cotton. Two others
were successively lowered for the purpose of rescuing the
poor fellow, but they had to be immediately drawn up to
avoid a similar fate to that which had befallen the mate,
who was not got out for several hours, by which time he
was quite dead. In the meantime the most active exertions
were made by a large body of firemen, salvage men) and
labourers to get out the cotton, so as to reach the seat of
the fire. A large quantity of the cotton was found to be on
fire, although not in a state of very
active conflagration ; a
largo number of bales were speedily landed, and the means
adopted for subduing the fire were such as to prevent its
gaining any additional head. The City of Agra is a new
iron-built ship, of about 1,100 tons, registered, owned by
Messrs. Coupeland, Brothers, of Liverpool. She had just
arrived from Bombay, and was got into the Albert Dock on
Wednesday. She bad on board a very full and valuable
and horns. The fire is supposed to have been
cargo of cotton, chiefly Surats, besides a quantity of hemp,
ill the hold for about three weeks,
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This Day,
between 8 and D. E. M. D. F. C. L S.
9 a.m.
Nairn ----7
ir9•55 79 ----f N.W. 3 2I b. 4
Aberdeen 29'51 35 34 N.W. 3 4, c. 2
Leith .. . 29''S5 38 35 W. 2 2I b. 2
Berwick 1 29'54 44 41 N.N.E. 4 7' c. 4
Ardrossan ' 29'54 32 30 E. 2 2 f. 2
Dortrosh ' 29'57 37 36 S. 1 2 b. 2
Shields
Galway 129.63 31 33 Calm 0 5 c. 1
Scarborough 2943 44 43 N.N.E. 4 6 c. 4
Liverpool
'Valentia .. 29'57 41 39 E.N.E. 2 8 o. 2
Queenstown... 29'51 39 38 N. 3 4 o. 1
Yarmouth.... 29'33 41 40 N.W. 3 5 r. 3
London 29'46 146 39 N.W. 1 0 f. 0
Dover 29'40 40 139 N. 2 60. 1
Portsmouth
Portland
Plymouth
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EXPLANATION.—B. Barometer, corrected and reduced
to 32 deg at mean sea level ; each 10 feet of vertical rise
causing about 1-100th of an inch diminution, and each 10
deg above 32 deg causing nearly 3-100ths increase. E•
Exposed thermo Meter in
shade. M. Moistened bulb (for
evaporation and dew-point). D. Direction of wind (true—
not magnetic). F. Force (1 to 12—estimated). C. Cloud
(1 to . I. Initials ; blue sky c., clouds (detached) ;
f., fog 9) . ; h., hail ; 1., lightning ;
m., misty (hazy) ;
overcast (dull) - r rain • R
" snow ; thunder. A letter
an
repeated augce (1 to 9), ments—thus, r.r., much min. S. Sea disturb-

The Entr'acte has the followi
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nine. Winkler, daughter of dancer, but her
father flatly refused. The lover then resolvedr violent
step ; a few days back he went into a foyreeunstinoilthae
young female, and
neigh-
bourhood of Baden, accompanied by the
there, whether with or without her consent,
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with a pistol ; after which he blew out his own borta* her
THE EXTENSIVE ROBBERIES PROM THE njLANCA-
SHIRE AND YORKSHIRE RAILWAY COMPANY theAt
West Riding Court, Halifax, on Thursday, Geo:Nadi
farmer, Soyland, was brought up, after remand from eY'
Tues-
day, and as the other men (who are believed to be farmers
well to do) are still at large, Mr. E. L. Ashworth, of the
firm of Lewis, Darbishire, and Ashworth, the company's
solicitors, from Manchester, who appeared for the prosecu-
tion,- decided to proceed with the case. The goods produced
consisted of very valuable packages from Messrs. Watts and
Co., Portland-street, Manchester ; Messrs. Wilkinson and
Davies, Mosley- street ; Messrs. John Muir and Co., Faulk-
ner-street ; Messrs. Grundy and Co.„ High-street, and other
firms. The gods were all addressed to Bradford firms'
There were upwards of 15 witnesses tendered for examina-
tion on behalf of the prosecution, but it was decided to rely
for a committal upon the goods sent from Messrs. Watts
and Co.'s warehouse. After a protzacted inquiry the psi-
"ler was committed for trial,—Manoliestcr vii4g"fian•