The Sun.
London, England, 1857-06-06 00:00:00

MANCHEST.

—(This Day.)

(BY ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH.)

NURSERY HANDICAP.

Madame Ristori..

Eight ran.

ASCOT.

The following horses have arrived here :—Skirmisher,
Unexpected, Lawn, Nougat, Saunterer, Kestrel, Lord
Raglan, and Pitapat.

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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS.—(YEsTERDAy.)

The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack
at five o'clock;

Earl COWLEY took the oaths and his seat upon big
elevation-to a❑ earldom. Ile was introduced by the Earl
of Clarendon.

The Duke of NEWCASTLE presented a petition
from the civil servants of the Crown employed in the
department of the Woods and Forests, praying for an
alteration in the system of administering the superan—
nuation fund. The noble duke al-o presented a similar
petition from the civil servants of the Crown employed
at the General Post-office, and two other public depart-
ments.

The Earl of WINCHELSEA presented a petition
from a place in Kent praying for an alteration in the
law of marriaq,e.

Viscount DUNGANNON presented a petition from
Denbigh, against the abolition of church-rates without
an equivalent.
SECOND READINGS.

On the motion of .14,,rd REDESDALE, the Hertflrd
Cathedral 13,,,storation Bill, and Aleriton's and Hagen's
Sufferance Wharf Bill were read a Pecmd time.

TUE PRINCESS ROY AL'S ANNUITY BILL.

This bill was brought up from the House of Commons
and read a first time.
MINISTERS' MONEY.
This bill was real a first time.
THE MERCHANT SHIPPING ACT.
The Earl of ALBEMARLE presented a petitio❑
from the merchants, shipowners, and others in-
terested in the shipping trade of the port
of Bristol, ccmp'aining of certain clauses i❑
the Merchant Shipping Act, arid praying that
the said act may be referred to a select commAtee. The
noble earl asked her Majesty's Government whether they
intended to introduce any measure to meet the require-
ments of the shipowners, and if not, in what other
way they meant to grant relief. The noble earl
referred at some length to the act in question, which,
'fist-ad of being short and concise, was of a totally op-
posite nature. It occupied upwards of three hundred
pages, and contained more than five hundred
clauses, consequently it would occupy nearly the whole
of the life-time of an ordinary seaman to become
acquainted with the whole of its provisions. The noble
earl then referred to the hardships shipowners laboured
under, in consequence of the liability they incurred by loss
of life occurring on board ship. The shipowners strongly
objected to the Court of Inquiry instituted by the act.
Tbey considered this tribunal a very arbitrary one. After

a feW other observations the noble lord resumed his seat.
Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY said he had lis-
tened attentrely to the observations of the noble lord,

and one of the grievances complained of,
was the extreme length of the Merchant
Shipping Act. Now, when it was considered that
this Act was a consolidation of no less than
128 Acts relating to the shipping, he did not
think it was surprising that it occupied so large a
space. He thought, looking to the whole facts of the
case, no consolidation of the law upon any point bad
been effected with such consummate ability as the pre-
sent one. The noble lord having replied to the other
observations of the noble earl, said there was no ground
whatever for any alteration in the law as it at present
existed.

The Earl of lIARDWICKE said that the petition
that had been presented by the noble earl opposite wag
a very important one, and he thought the grievances
complained of by the shipowners ought to be investi.
gated by a stl.ot committee.

- A NOBLE LORD said he should like to know whether
the Government meant to make any proposal with re-
gard to manorial rights on the sea-shore compulsory, the
power possessed by the Crown of calling upon lords of
the manor to produce their titles to wrecks being very
unsatisfactory in their operation.
Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY said there were
no compulsory powers with regard to the production of
titles ; all that was done was to institute a preliminary
inquiry. With regard to the matters complained of in
the petition, he bad no hesitation in saying that the
Government were prepared to give them their best con-
sideration. He saw no objection to giving a power of
appeal from the Court of Admiralty. The inspectors
did not follow any trade, and therefore were likely to
be unprejudiced. With regard to measurement by ton-
nage, he must observe that no longer ago than 1354
the whole q' e Ition involved was submitted to those who
were most competent to judge, namely, representatives
of the Admiralty, of the law, of the Trinity House,
and of all the great shipping ports, and they all agreed
to recommend the adoption of the system which was
now in operation.
The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH said he was not
generally in favour of the system of allowing appeals,
considering it best to take care that the court of origi-
nal jurisdiction was one on which they could rely.
(hear.) One of the great complaints of the petitioners
was the delay which attended inspection ; and in most
ca,es the delay which would attend appeals would be a
greater evil than the injury complained of. Consider-
ing that the Merchant Shipping Act was passed only
two or three years ago, he thought the Government
should not on light grounds consent to any alteration
being made in its provisions.
Lord CAMPBELL said the question of manorial
rights having been introduced, he wished to observe,
that he himself, in consequence of having the good or
bad fortune to be the proprietor of an estate near the
sea-shore, in Ireland, received a notice from an officer
of the customs, iu Galway, calling upon him to state
whether he meant to claim the wrecks, and if so, on
what title lie based his olaitn in opposition to the Crown
He was told that this inquiry arose out of the consolida-
tion of the laws relating to the mercantile marine. All
he could say in reply was that he obtained his estate
under the Incumbered Estates Act, and upon that act
he must repose.

Lord REDESDALE considered the whole proceed-
ing most unfair. Every proprietor was called upon to
come forward and prove his title to the satisfaction of
the officer of the Crown who was a claimant against him ;
and if he took possession of a wreck without being en-
titled to it, he thereby su► jectod himself to a heavy
penalty. The case was altogether one of injustice, and
nothing lees than the repeal of the clauses was required.
Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY must repeat that
no person was compelled to produce his title. All the
act did was to secure to the Crown wrecks which did
not belong to private individuals.
Earl GREY said his own experience was similar to
that of the noble and learned lord (Campbell). The
wrecks on his estate had been claimed for a ♦ery long
period, when he received peremptory notice not to take
anything, not even a spar no bigger than his stick.
The Earl of DERBY said he had been called upon in

a similar manner. (Laughter.) Like the Earl of Sef-
ton, whose estate joined his own, he was called upon to
show his title to wrecks, and though the wrecks them- '
selves might be of little value, the question involved the
right of property in the shore between high and low
water-mark, which was worth many thousand pounds.
He had ❑o reason to complain of the manner in which
he was applied to, but he was peremptorily called upon
not to take possession of any wreck until he had proved
his title.
Lord WYNFORD believed that there were a great
many cases of oppression at that moment.
A Node LORD observed that having been served with
a notice, he had paid no attention to it, and he had since
heard no more of the matter. (Laughter.)
Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY would remind
the noble lord that it was not admitted on the part of
the Crown that his title was established.
Lcrd CAMPBELL hoped it would not be supposed
that those who took no notice of the matter allowed
judgment to go by default,
Lord BROUGJIAM, adverting to the question of ap-
peals, said he admitted that it was desirable to avoid the
multiplication of appeals, and for this purpose original
courts of jurisdiction ought to be made as perfect as pos-
sible; but, on the other hand, there were functional de-
fects as well as structural ones, and even the best court
without a power of appeal from its decisions might be-
come worse than inferior ones which admitted of appeal.
Lord COLCHESTER considered that the power given
by certain clauses of the act to inspectors was excessive.
Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY would gladly re-
ceive any suggestion from the noble lord, who was inti-
mately acquainted with the subject.
The matter then dropped.
PROBATE AND LETTERS OF ADMINISTRA-
TION BILL.

This bill was read a third time and passed, after some
miscellaneous comments upon the details of the measure
from Lord Donoughinore, and Wynford, and other peers.
IRISH POOR LAW ADMINISTRATION.

Lord CLONCURRY moved for copies of the corre-
spondence between the Irish Poor Law Commissioners
and the•Gelbridge Board of Guardians on the :übject of
the dismissal by the Commissioners of Mr. J. Coonan,
the rate collector appointed by tbo said guardians ; also
the Commissioners letter directing that the ratepayers
of the New Castle electoral division should be disfran-
chised as defaulters.
Earl GRANVILLE said he bad no objection to giv-
ing the return if the last two paragraphs were omitted.
lie referred to the authorities in Ireland for information
on the case brought forward by the noble lord. It ap-
peared that the facts had been inquired into, but it was
as
found impossible to take such a course as would meet t
views of the noble lord.
The return was thou ordered, Clio last two paragraphs
being omitted.
The house adjourned at 8 o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(YESTERDAY.)
The SrEeszn took the chair at four o'clock.
NEW MEMBERS.
Mr. KEATING, the new Solicitor-General, and Mr. T.
BARING, took their oaths and their seats on th • eir re-
election, and Sir E. HAYEs for Donegal.