The Sun.
London, England, 1857-06-06 00:00:00

Mr. VANCE wished to call the attention of his
lordship to the fact that, while the railways saved
the country, according to Mr. Stephenson's calcu-
latioo, 14,000,0001. of money per annum, yet the
proprietors received no more from the Government
for carriage or postage than they paid to the Go-
vernment in the shape pf duty en passengers.
Lord STANLEY said it could by no 'means be the
wish of the Government to deteriorate the property
of the railway proprietors, but it could not be de-
nied that whatever deterioration that property had
suffered was mainly the result of unwise conduct
on the part of railway companies themselves.
A GENTLEMAN of the deputation observed that
the Government was not always blameless, and re-
ferred, as an instance, to the case of the Chester and
Holyhead line, where it was required by the Go-
vernment that an iron tubular bridge should be
constructed at a great expense, when a wooden
bridge would have been equally serviceable.
Lord STANLEY remembered when he was in the
House of Commons great complaints were made
that the public were not at liberty to judge for
themselves as to the lines which should be made.
Mr. WATKIN said, without pretending to deny
that in the early period of railways many errors
were committed, he did not think railway proprie-
tors were guilty of any mistake that should deprive
them of a claim to the favourable consideration of
Government.
Lord STANLEY—We are all fully sensible that
railways are a great benefit to the country, and we
shall be happy to afford any redress that is in the
power of the Government to render. But of course
the deputation cannot expect us to express any
opinion upon the subject on the present occasion.
Mr. WATlcrx---What we want is to place our case
before you. We do not ask you to adopt our views
until you have fully considered the facts we have
represented to you.
Lord STANLEY—I cannot help reminding you
that some few years ago I introduced a bill into
Parliament asking for certain powers, to which
almost every railway company made an objecti, n.
I asked that the Board of Trade. should have the
power to construct certain bridges over a certain
line, but it was objected to.
Mr. WATKIN—I think I assisted in that opposi-
tion ; and why ? The line was complete ; the capi-
tal account was closed, and the company had no
money to construct the bridges. He begged, how-
ever, to observe, generally, that if the Board of
Trade would be so good as to consult the railway
t
proprietors a little more, and o.obtain someble practio
work
cal
opinions from them, they mig e a
together a great deal better.
Lord STANLEY---I think I have always shown a
clisposition to consult the railway proprietors on
all questions, and that I did so when Mr. Cardwell
was connected with the Board of Trade ; and I am
sure that there is every disposition ou the part of
Mr. Lowe to promote the interest of and consult
with those connected with railways.
Mr. WATKIN—The impression wag that there is
not a mutuality between the proprietors and
directors, and that the directors have not he
con-
sulted by the board.
' lain
t think you can comp
Lord STANLEY--I —on
of our interference lately..a
Mr. WATKIN—Not I tely.
lkilwray l‘i ;GoAckit, It
nld holder o
another f 1
gentle-
man
5O
,000
rai
in the roots holding a similar amount, and
tbetl was
iere a w
Eal saidtl
that the average dividend he received on 80,000/.
of that stock was 2f per cent. He was not a dealer
in shares, but held them as investments. On the
other 70,0001. or 80,000/. stock he received a divi-
dend of 6 per cent.
Mr. VANCE then expressed the thanks of the de-
putation for the courtesy with which Lord Stanley
and Mr. Lowe had listened to their representations,
and, after handing in the memorial, which bore the
signatures of numerous shareholders, he and his
friends withdrew.

Advices from ',Bogota to the 24th of April state that
the Mackintosh question was either settled or on the
point of being E;°, and that relations were achedabou
restored betweei i the two Governments. It ise
that Don Juan de Francisco Martin, who has resided
for the last three or four years in Paris, is appointed
Minister Plenipotentiary to the Court of St. Jamei's a
He is a native of New Granada, and is said to enjoy
high reputation in bis own country._LAW AND JUSTICE...-.
CIVIL SERVICE ESTIMATICS.--
Yesterday morning was published an account of the
sums required for the expensee connected with law and
justice in Eng'wit", Scotland,. and Ireland during the
year ending March 31, 1858. The sum required for
England is 810,4621., being an increase of 342,912/.
beyond the amount for 1856 ; for Scotland, 132,9601,
being an increase of 17,524/. The sum required for
prison and convict se,rvices is 930,9171., showing an in.
crease of 24,543/. Ihe statement exhibits a total e.
cevs of 380,046/., as ,compared with the estimates fcx
1856.
TUE COST OF PRIING BANS OF ENOLAffD NOTES;
NP
—The cost of printing each Bank of England note is
sd. The notes received back into the Bank every day
are destroyed to prevent faturense. In the Customs'
by the receipt as cash (in
treasury a great saving 13 as been effected for the Bank
p ayment of duties) of "cheques"
alled " transfers ;" as these
and " Customs notes"
diem, of course th
average about 20,0001. perthe economy
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effected is of some inaportaxi