The Sun.
London, England, 1857-10-03 00:00:00

ALDERMAN CARDEN AND THE

MAYORALTY.

MANSION HOUSE (THIS DAY).

The further hearing of the charge preferred by Alder-
man Sir R. W. Carden against Mr. Rose was resumed
this morning before the Lord Mayor.
Mr. Humphreys appeared for the complainant ; Mr.
Lewis (Ely-place) for the defendant.
Mr. Millard, Under-sheriff, was re-called and cross-
examined by Mr. Lewis—l first had a conversation with
Sir R. Carden relative to his election in the middle of

August, at his countinghouse, Exchange-buildings.
went there byappointment with Mr. Whitehead, on whom
I had previously called. When I saw Sir R. Carden I
communicated to him the substance of conversation
that bad taken place been me and Mr. Anderton, the
then under-sheriff, to the effect that he was determined
to oppose the election of Sir R. Carden. He replied
that he did not believe Mr. Anderton would take any
such steps. I observed that my opinion was that
he was determined to do so, and suggested to Sir R.
Carden the propriety of making some arrangements if it
should appear that Mr. Anderton continued in the same
mind. Sir R. Carden asked me what arrangements
I referred to. I replied, requesting several of his friends
to form a committee to protect his interests in case of
need, and if opposed to secure the services of a compe.
tent agent. Sir R. Carden replied that he considered it
altogether unnecessary, and that he should not ask any
of his friends to do so ; he said; moreover, that if the
high position which he had for so many years sustained
without reproach' in this city would not of itself com-
mand the support of his fellow citizeus he certainly
ehonld not ask them to vote for him ; then I think
Sir R. Cardeu referred to the duties of the sheriffs in
preventing the admission of pereons not entitled to vote to
the hall; in taking leave of him I eaidyou understand I do
not intend to take any steps whatever in the meantime ;
if you should hear anything more on the subject you
can do the best you can for me, or words to that effect.
That ended that interview ; the next interview was on
Friday, the 18th ult. I net Mr. Alderman Cubitt on
my way to my office, and in consequence of what
passed between us I went direct to my office, where Sir
Richard Carden was waiting to see me. Sir Richard
said he found an opposition iu Mr. Anderton. No one
was present with us at either of the interview,. He
said Mr. Andertou'l opposition was a determined one,
and it might be necessary for him (Sir R. Carden) to
demand a poll. He requested me to accompany him to
Mr. Alderman Wire's, in order to confer on the
measures which it might be prudent to adopt un-
der the circumetancee. I did so, and after waiting
some time we had an interview with him. No other
persons were present. After introducing the subject
to Alderman Wire, who anticipated our business, the
subject of Mr. Anderton's opposition was discussed, as
also the propriety of taking mew urea to resist it.
Mr. Lewis—What was prepos ed to be done 1
Witness—That an agent should be appointed.
Mr. Lewis—By whom 1
Witness—l believe I mentioned it for tho purpose of
conducting the poll on the part of Sir R. Carden, who
observed that he should assuredly demand a poll, for
the expenses of it would fall on the Sheriffs. Alderman
Wire explained to Alderman Carden that was not
quite so, as the candidates would have to pro-
vide agent to solicit, bring up voters, and object
to votes. I then suggested that the more correct course
perhaps would be, that the deputy and common council
of the Dowgate and Walbrook wards, to which the
aldermen respectively belonged, should be requested to
constitute themselves into a committee for the purposes
of the election. That was assented to by both aldermen,
and in consequence of that Sir R. Carden asked me, as
a matter of favour, to accompany him to his deputy (Mr.
Deputy Kebble). I did so, and saw Deputy Kebble in
his counting-house, with Mr. Shepherd, his partner. I
then stated to Mr. Deputy Kebble what had passed
at the interview at Mr. Alderman Wire's, and requested
him to put himself into communication with the Common
Council of the Ward of Walbrook for that purpose ; Sir
R. Carden made a statement which I do not recollect,
and I then referred to an interview I had had with Mr.
Rose ; I don't think a commit.ee had been formed be-
fore I saw Mr. Rose ; I suggested his employment as
agent for the legitimate purposes of the election ; Mr.
Deputy Kebble said I understood the purposes for which
he is to be employed, and it will be necessary to have some
agent ; Sir R. Carden being utterly averse, and would
not sanction any of the proceedings usually taken at
elections was not disposed to have the defendant or any
employed. I again referred to the necessity of having
an agent employed under the direction of the committee,
and the result was left to Mr. Deputy Kebble. When
about to leave with Sir R. Carden, he said to Deputy
.Kebble, " Now, we must settle about Millard's retain-
ing fee." My answee was, "to see Sir R. Carden
Mayor as my retainer, fir his success would be my
reward." We all walked up Allhallowes-lane together,
and I asked Sir Robert Carden whether he desired
to be Lord Mayer, and he said that he must
be Lord Mayor, and that the proper steps
must be taken. As we approached Alderman Wire's
office Sir Robert Carden took out his watch and saw it
was 12 o'clock, and observed he was behind his time
and must go to the justice-room, desiring me to go to
Alderman Wire and communicate what had occurred at
Mr. Kebble's, and apologise for his not returning. I did
so, and on my reaching home I sent immediately for
aMftre.rßwaords. I toldse,whocalle Mr. u
called at my officeose
that I w
about half-an-hour
not-hour
now concerned in the matter, but that he must
go to Mr. Deputy Kebble. The subject of
money was mentioned by me to Mr. Rose.
Mr. Lewis—Did the defendant at any time threaten
to print or publish, or abstain from doing so, any libel
or libellous matter 1

Witness—Nothing of the sort.
Mr. Lewis—Did he upon any occasion whatever
threaten that unless money was given him, on the part
of Sir R. Carden, that he would do anything to prevent
his election

Witness—No, he did not. He did not see Sir R.
Carden, the defendant, or Mr. Kebble from the 18th till
Nth of September, about 10 o'clock, when Sir R. Car.
den came to my office and said that he had received
information on which he could rely, that Mr. Alderman
Wire had forfeited his promise not to interfere in the
election, and that he (Mr. Alderman Wire) and Mr.
Auderton bad combined to defeat his election. I told
him that I did not believe the report, because I had
known Mr. Alderman Wire for a great many years, and
I never knew him or Mr. Andertoa break their pro.
misee. Sir R. Carden said, nevertheless, that he knew
it was so, and that him election was lost, and
he desired to know Mr. Ross's terms. (This was
the day on which the summons was obtained.)
I then distinctly told him Rose's terms were 1001. to
cover all the expenses of the poll and 501. mere if Sir R.
was successful. Sir R. observed, " Well that makes
1501." Shortly after, Sir R. said, " Well, lam going to.
take for some bill put up
int usioline dliapiirloacreded.,i,ngls aBgatimsttoßsoiereil,
R. Carden, " I hope
you have considered well the course you are about to
take, for you gave us your assurance that my connection
with you, as well as Mr. Alderman Wires connection
with yon that the confidence should remain undisclosed.
Mr. Lewis—Do you know that Sir R. Carden at-
tended here afterwards and took out this summons ?
Witness—l don't know. I saw it was so afterwards
lq the newspapers.
Mr. Humphreys—You may take it as so. Your
summons shows it.

Witness continued —On the 20th Supt. I attended the
Common Hall ; up to that time the defendant had not
been heard in defence of this case. At the hustings I
heard Sir R. Carden complain of the persecution he had
been subjected to. The defendant is well known in the .
city, and is applied to important city elections.
Every one tries to secure his services.
The Lord Mayor—l did not retain Mr. Rose for my
election.
Witness continued—When I sent Mr. Rose to Deputy
Kehble, I certainly led him to believe he was to bo Sir
R. Carden's election agent. All communications between
me and Rose were to be considered confidential.
By Mr. Humphreys—l have employed Mr. Rose in
two city elections—the last time iu 1851—one for sheriff
the other for alderman.

Mayoreri
nof
having an important engagement,
thethe caso was adjourned till
Monday.
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Lord

LORD ELGIN AND THE CANTONESE.—There is a China-
man, a painter and copier of charts, in the Queen's-road,
whose shop is like the shop of Pasquin. "Ey yaw,"
said this authority about 4 o'clock yesterday, " You no
cstchee that city. What for your number one big Man-
darin run away, e 5 ?" The celestial men of rut was
right. Lord Elgin had resolved to start for Csdcutta.
An hour afterwards, and we had the announcement
that "the Pearl will leave for Cakutta and take letters
for Singapore and Europe," and the information did not
long lag that Lord Elgin was to accompany hes in the
from Hong Koag.
Shannon.—Letter