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London, England, 1857-11-19 00:00:00

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place where the roots of some trees were said to
have fallen down and hurt the prisoner's leg, but,
with the exception of two small ones, which had
evidently been removed from the further end, they
did not seem to have been disturbed.

j Police•constable legate was recalled, and pro-
duced a memorandum book, the key of the hand-
cuffs found in the field, and 7s. Gd. in silver, which
he had taken from the pocket of the deceased.
David Carpenter, the son of the accused, was
examined with reference to what had become of the
working smockfrock of the prisoner. He stated that
he saw it in the house on the Saturday, after the
policeman was killed, but (lid not know what had
Imo become of it. He did not know whether he
saw it upstairs or down. On Sunday it WAS lying
on the table in the front room. Nobody was doing
anything to it ; it was not folded up, but lying
loose on the table. Did not see either his mother
or his father touch it. Never saw it again. His
father was sitting in the house, and had his new
frock on Vier. Witness went to church in the after-
noon, and when he came home the frock had been
removed. His father had two smockfrocks, but he
could not tell what sort of frock be usually wore ;
thought it was whiter than the pieces shown him.
William Red said that the frock produced in a
sound condition was not the frock ordinarily worn
by the prisoner at his work, which was much worn,
especially at the sleeves and wristbands. He could
not speak to the pieces shown him, as the sleeves and
wristbands had been torn away ; all that he could
say was, that the smockfrock generally worn by the
prisoner at his work was a very bad one.
William Sheppard denied all knowledge of the
kind of smockfrock worn by the prisoner. He did
net notice what he had on when be was called on to
render prisoner assistance in getting the log of wood
off his leg.l It was dark then, and dark next morn-
ing when he saw the prisoner going to his work.
Knew that Mrs. Parker called him in as he was
passing on Saturday morning, but did not recollect
making, any statement to her. Did not recollect
that he knew what she wanted him for, that he had
seen enough at Carpenter's. Did say that if the
boy did not go home and mind his plait he would
pay him. Never took the least mortal notice of Cir.-
pent-r that night. He did not whisper to him to
send tae boy away. Did not notice his hands or
his face. Did not tell Mrs. Parker that he noticed
that Carpenter was all of a tremble, or that his lips
moved. He untied his shoes, but did not notice
that there was blood on them. Saw that his gaiters
were loose, but whether they were unhuVoned or
some of the buttons had been lost he could not say.
Never said he was afraid to go to Mrs. Parker.
Could not tell whether he said he knew his boy
saw more than he ought to have seen. Did not
believe that he mentioned anything about it. He
did not say he knew the boy to be a chattering
y•nng rasoal, and he was afraid that he had told the
gentlemen a lot of lies ; did say that he saw enough
at Carpenter's that night—he meant by that that
he saw his foot bad. He thought the boy being
there would bring him into trouble. He never said
that he knew the boy saw more than he ought. He
sent the boy away because he was always pushing
his nose into everything.
A great deal more evidence was given by the
different witnesses, and the examination of the
prisoner lasted from 11 in the morning till half-
past 5 in the evening, but no new facts were given,
and at the conclusion of the evidence the Rev.
Mr. Prodgers, the chairman of the bench, asked
the prisoner if he had auyt hing to say. Carpen-
ter, who looked paler than on the previous occasion
and who had watched the various witnesses while
giving their evidence with the closest attention,
replied that he should reserve his defence for the
trial. He was then fully committed to take his trial
for the murder of John Starkins, at the next Hert-
fordshire assizes.

After the committal of the prisoner, he was con-
♦eyed to Hertford Gaol in a close carriage. A large
crowd of persons asserabled in front of the school-
house to see him enter the vehicle.

REWARDS TO OUR INDIAN GENERALS.

(Front the Times )

These attempts to get rid of the question ought
to be very instructive to the Liberal Party. Last
week this subject was indefinitely sent adrift with-
out the slightest reference to Lord Palmerston's
promise, on the ground that no human being in
the kingdom but Lord J. Russell cared a straw
about the electoral franchise or representative dis-
tribution, or any such idle, unworthy phantas;es.
But now that it is seen and felt that the country is
just as deeply interested in the question as ever it
was ; now that there is evidence arising on ;every
side that the subject still lives in men's hearts ;
now that there is reason to apprehend distress,
political agitation, the attempt to get rid of a Re-
form Bill alto ether is dropped ; and the game
now is another session's postponement because of
other engagements. It is difficult to say which sub-
terfuge is the more discreditable.
To unavoidable postponements the country must
submit ; to adjournment on the part of one whose
zeal and devotion to the cause even his detractors
are obliged to admit, but, admitting, pervert to his
depreciation, it has already submitted. But, to post-
ponements which sound thus false and fraudulent
—to adjournments that are obviously insincere and
fictitious—to delay thus inconsistently sought,
and unaccompanied by any zeal or devotion to
the cause itself—to delay urged and asked for, not
by the avowed friends, but by the secret opponents
of substantial Reform of Parliament, the Liberal
party can never submit or agree with honour or
self-respect.
The older and more experienced members of that
patty are not to be thus deluded. We entreat the
younger, the less thoughtful, the less experienced
members not to be cajoled by these insidious
pr mptings into any premature expression which
way be construed into indifference or approval of
po,tponemeut. It is easy to conceive that even
some pledged Liberals may, thus urged, be willing
to have a fulfilment of their pledges deferred. But
there are risen in the Rouse of Commons, they may
rest assured, so earnest on the question, so true to
themselves, so simply honest, and so determined—
and those men amongst the most eminent of tie
party—that they will not permit the subject to be
! shelved, but ►ill test the honesty and courage of
the Liberals by moving a vote of want of confidence
if there bo any tricky evasion on the part of the
Government.

For the suspicions which have arisen that Lord
Palmerston means to play the country false,
Ministers have only the subserviency of their
organs to his supposed and assumed intentions to
blame. If, however, these suspicions prove true,
a serious and irreparable feud in the Liberal party
is impending. A party cannot, even were
its morality so low as to dispose it thereto, live on
expectations. Want of time is an excuse that can
he always resorted to where there is an indisposi-
tion to act. No man cm bespeak a session of Par-
liam,nt f r any particular suhject. When a ques-
tion is ripe for legishition, then is the fitting time
for legislation. And who will say that the question
of Parliamentary Reform is not ripe ?
Pastpone the 'question against this approaching
session, and so far from stnuting for it an oppor-
tunity the session thereafter, the reverse will be
found to be the case. The question will then be
found to have receded still further from Parli-
amentary grasp. There is no time like the present,
when we have a House of Commons prepared for
its delib ration by the pledges of a great party and
the promises of a powerful Minister.
The furies are plucking up their courage again ;
and who can predicate that in the course of the
next session they may not be able to defeat even
the present stiong Administration ? Who can say
with any confidence that LA-1 Palmerston, whose
plighted faith we now possess, will be
Minister
1859 1 " Nature's copy is not werne 'in him, all
juvenescent as he is. In the midst of strength, great
even as his, we are iu weakness ; and the leader of
the Cabinet of the day may be the head of Oppo-
sition only next month. Why, then, should the
Liberal party abandon the security it possesses now
that the time for its discharge is at hand, and for
the third time accept a promise on the future
which events may for the fourth time dispose of.
Let us be wise and firm. We have no right
to trifle with such a question as the representa-
tion of the people. Their due and [Toper repre-
sentation in Parliament constitute the very essence
of the Constitution. Before it all other questions
are comparatively insigailicaut. And now that
we have a goverinnent bound to extend the suf-
frage and re-distiibute the repre3entation, we
shall be the veriest of human dupes if we listen
to the miserable excuse for delay that they have
no time. Want of time, indeed ! We must make
time fur the Cabinet.

SUFFICE/IRS PROM THE MUTINY IN INDIA.—It has
recently been a-zertaned that a person residing at Mar-
seilles has been practising the most heard-es frauds on
the relatives of those who have fallen in India, or whose
fate is unknown. He probably varies the method of
effecting hie base purpose to meet particular cases ; but
following appears to be his general mode of proceeding :
He addresses the relatives of persons whose death has
been reported fro n India, and informs them that be has
private information that the parties are not dead but in
a place of c'eacealment, and in want of money to enable
them to effect their escape. He then offers on receiving
a certain amount which he names to convey it to the
persons in jeopardy, and thus enable them to make their
way to a place of safety. It is important that all
whose frieeds are engaged in the suppression of the
mutinies should be cautioned against the attempts of this
worthless imposter, and it is hoped that he may yet be
brought under the power of the law, and buffer the
pnniihrneet he so richly deserves.
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