The Sun.
London, England, 1861-09-23 00:00:00

In cross-examination by Mr. Philbrick, she said
her husband was Thomas Andrews, and that he was
a baker by trade. When he died I lived in Shetland- ,
court, Drury-lane. I have lived in Lincoln-court,
Drury-lane, all the time I have had the child. I
have only been in trouble once all that time. I had
the child on a Wednesday ; of that I am positive.
Mrs. Scott has lived at Litchfield-streei a long time.
Lincoln-court is nearly opposite Russell-street, Co
vent-garden.
At the couclusion of the evidence the witness, on
being told to sign the depositions, said she could
not write, and having affixed her mark, left the
court evidently without exciting any sympathy
amongst the people.
Mary Ann Idle, who was brought up in charge
of one of the female warders of Tothill-field Prison
under a writ of habeas, was next sworn. She is a
swarthy, copper-coloured complexioned woman, but
of a somewhat forbidding determined aspect. Her.
evidence, which was given with firmness and deci-
sion, was as follows :

By Mr. Cooke—You arc sometimes known as
Mary Ann Scott ?—Yes, sir.
You are now under sentence at the House of Cor-
rection ?—Yes, sir.

Do you recollect ever having seen the prisoner
now present ?—Yes, sir, perfectly well.
When did you first see him ?—I cannot say the
day of the month when I first saw him.
Who was with you P—No one at all when I first
saw him.

When did you first see him P—l was waiting in
Windmill-street, when a woman told me that a
gentleman was going to give her a child.
Did you first 'Teak to the prisoner or he to you ?
I saw him first in Windmill-street. A Hansom cab
came up and stopped opposite the Casino. The
prisoner got out and looked cautiously round, and
then went up a court where I was. The woman
went over to him, and 1 saw her speak to him,
but I did not hear what was said.
When the prisoner first spoke to you what did
he say ?—He said he was going to give the woman
the child.

What took place ?—The woman Andrews said to
the prisoner that I was the woman she wished to go
with her before she took the child.

Did she point to you ?—Yes, she did.
What took place then ?—He said something to
Andrews about money, and I heard him say he had
got ten sovereigns and a £5 note.
What next was said P—l said it was very ill-
convenient for the woman to take a note, as she was
a poor woman, and could not get change for it. He
said he would go and get it changed himself, and
give us gold.
Did you go to the Euston station with Andrews?
—Yes, in a cab, with her and that gentleman sitting
there.

On what day was it 2-4 can't say.
Where did you meet to go to the station ?—ln a
street that leads out of Windmill-street.
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And the prisoner came there in a cab?--Yes, sir.
What occurred?—He said he would go, and he
went to get change for the note, and we went down
to Coventry-street, where he called a cab, and we
ail went to the Euston-square station.
What then followed ?—We went up to the station.
He got out of the cab and went away, and when he
came back he said the train was late, and had not
come in. In a short time I heard a train come in,
and the prisoner went away again, and when he
came back be said the train had come in. He
brought a woman with the child.
Catherine Parsons having been called into court,
the witness said—That is the young woman who
had the child in her arms.

Was the boy wrapped up in that shawl which is
lying there ?—Yes, sir, he was.
What was then done P—He was then going to
give us money in the street, but I would not take
it unless I saw it in the light.
How much was it ?—Fifteen pounds in gold.
Did you give that money to Mrs. Andrews after-
wards ?—Yes. I gave it her, but she gave it me
back, and I had to take it to my place.
What became of the child ?—Mrs. Andrews took
the child from the young woman.
In the presence of the prisoner ?—Yes, sir.
Was any address given where the prisoner was
to be found?—No address was given in my hearing.
Was that child, to your knowledge, in the pos-
session of Mrs. Andrews afterwards ?—Yes, I saw
it very often.
That was until lately P—That was until within
the last eleven months. I have not seen much of
it since.

Should you know it again ?—Yes.
(The child was again brought into court, and the
same excitement was exhibited.)

Is that the child ?—Yes.
Now, was that child, to your knowledge, during
the time it was in Mrs. Andrews's possession ex-
posed to many hardships ?
Mr. Philbrick—No, no; that question will not do
at all.

Mr. Cooke did not press the question.
Mr. Philbrick declined to cross•examine this wit-
ness, and as it was found to be impossible to finish
the case at a late hour, the primer was again re-
manded.

It is necessary to state that throughout the whole
proceedings, whenever the question of identity was
mentioned, Mr. Philbrick contended tnat such mat-
ter was irrelevant. He argued that it was imma-
terial to the present issue whatever the prisoner
had done to the child, the charge only being for
falsifying the register, and he informed the magi-
strates that they were clashing with the jurisdic-
tion of Sir Cresswell Cresswell. The learned
gentleman further said that at the proper time
a full and complete refutation of the charge would
be forthcoming. He also desired to mention that
domestic affliction of the prisoner's brother, a clergy-
man of the Church of England, had prevented bail
being given. At the commencement of the hearing
all the witnesses were ordered out of court.
Throughout the day the excitement was intense,
and the great crowds of persons who could not ob-
tain admission to the court-room thronged around
the windows, anxious to catch a glimpse of the
scene, and in spite of a heavy rain, which fell al-
most incessantly, they maintained their positions
till the case terminated, and then rushed to the
various points of egress in the hope of witnessing
the departure of the prisoner.
Mrs. Hill was present in an adjoining room, and
Col. Burdett (her brother) and several members of
both families were also in attendance. The general
arrangements of the court-room were admirable,
and Superintendent Wild afforded with great cour-
tesy every information and assistance to the mem-
bers of the press.