The Sun.
London, England, 1861-03-11 00:00:00

PRIVATE BUSINESS.

The Cardiff and Caerphilly Railway Bill was read a
second time.

THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL OF INDIA.

The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said since he had
given the notice which he now rose to proceed with, the
question he intended 1,0 stab whether • hor Majesty's
Government were about to propose to Parlia-
ment any measure upon the state of the Legislative
Council of India had been answered in another place.
He was glad a measure on the subject was to
be speedily introduced, so it would be unnecessary for him
to trouble their lordships on that point. The papers which
he would lay before the house,would be of gre•+t importance
in order that the fullest information might be in the hands
of their lordships preparatory to the discussion of the merits
of the bill. The constituting a legislative council in India
had, in his opinion, turned out a total failure. He did
not intend to speculate as to the provisions of
the bill, but he hoped that the subject would
be dealt with in an enlarged spirit, for it
seamed to him quite impossible that a single court
sitting at Calcutta could satisfactorily administer to such
an immense empire as India. He concluded by moving
for copies: of any correspondence between the Secre-
tary of State for India and his Excellency the Governor-
General or the Governors of the Presidencies of Bombay or
Madras, relating to an alteration in the Legislative Council
of India, and also copies of any minutes of the Council of
India in this country, or of any Committee of the Council
upon the same subject.
Earl DE GREY and RIPON said his right
honourable friend had promised to introduce a
bill on the subject alluded to by the noble
maquis it could not be expected that he could enter into
the details of the measure. He asked his noble friend
under these circumstances not to press the motion for the
papers, as they had only but a very short time come into
the possession of the Government.
[LEFT SPEAELNG.]

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(Tins EVENING).
The SPEAKER tcok the chair at four o'clock.

NEW MEMBER.
Sir H. OWEN took the oaths and his seat on his election
for Pembroke.

PRIVATE BUSINESS._

The Blackpool and Lythian Railway Bill was read a
second time.
GREAT DOVER ROAD BILL.—BREACH OF

PRIVILEGE.
Tho adjourned debate on the order for the second reading
of this bill was resumed by
Mr. ROUPELL, who said that he considered a most
unwarrantable liberty had been taken in refer-
ence to this matter, both with respect to his
name, and that of his hon. colleague the member for Lam-
beth. Their names had been placed en the back of the bill
not only without their consent, but in direct opposition to
what was known to be their sentiments with reference to
the bill. This circumstance had been the cause of
considerable temporary inconvenience, and he had
to receive deputations from his constituents. He thought
it was his duty to bring the breach of rules of the house
committed by the agents in this matter forward, not only
on his own account but on that of the house. (Hear,
hear.) It 'was well known that he was opposed
altogether to tolls in metropolitan districts, and
he repeated that under such circumstances the
conduct of the agents was a most unjustifiable attempt
to foist this bill on the house in a surreptitious manner. He
concluded by moving the rejection of the bill.
Mr. WILLIAMS said that his name had been placed on
the back of the bill without any intimation being given to
him on the subject until he saw the bill in the votes. Ho
considered that taking such liberties with hon. members
was most unjustifiable. Like his hon. colleague he had suf-
fered some inconvenience from that liberty being taken with
his name. If his consent had been asked he would have
refused it, because the object of the bill interfered materially
with the interest of a number of his constituents.
Mr. MASSEY said that after the statements of the two
honourable members for Lambeth the house could pursue
only one course. He would not say that the agents had in-
tentionally committed a fraud, bat they had been guilty of
gross negligence, which, in the language of the
profession of which he was a member, would be so
designated. (Hear, hear.) He would, therefore, carry out
the object of the hon. member (Mr.Roupell) by moving that
the order for the second reading of the bill should be dis-
charged,whichwas the formal motion necessary for that pur-
pose.
Colonel W. PATTEN suggested that the proper course
to be adopted in future would be to forward to the
hon. member for Walsall (Mr. Forster) by hon. members
their names, when they wished to have them placed on
the back of private bills.
Mr. FORSTER said he would be glad if the suggestion
of the hon. and gallant member were carried out.'
Mr. LOCKE said that he had invariably resisted appli-
cations to put his name on bills until they had been sub-
mitted to him. (Hear.) It was a most disagreeable thing
to have a person's name placed on the back of a bill that
was unpopular. (Laughter.) He had been frequently
applied to in the case of unpopular bills to put his name on
them, but there was no such application when the bill was
of a popular character. (Laughter.)
The SPEAKER said that he had made inquiries into
the matter, as he had promised the house the other even-
ing, and he had made himself informed of what had taken
place in respect to this matter. It appears that consider-
able negligence had been shown by the agents who had the
conducting of this bill, and he thought the order should be
discharged. With regard to the suggestion of the hon.
member (Col. W. Patten) he thought the better course to
pursue was to allow the Parliamentary agents to be ac-
countable for the orders of ;the house being attended to in

regard to their private
The order for the second reading was then discharged.
SLAVE TRADE.
On the motion of Mr. HOYE it was ordered that there be
added to the return relative to the slave trade (ordered
Bth March) a statement showing the approximate annual
cost of each such ships.
TROOPS IN CHINA.
Eden, FELL asked the Under Secretary of State for War

what was the amount of force retained in China, and of
what troops it was composed ?
Mr. BARING said that there were in China at present
1,223 artillery, 301- engineers, 5,557 infantry, which, with
some other troops, made a total of 7,657, which number can
be increased.