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THE BRITISH ASSOCIATION. ' ployers give way rather than lose their workpeople ; the grenting of patents, but it shall be open to inventors to and it would be difficult to remedy the evil by and the question 'Of a preliminary inquiry, conducted ment of the accident to Mr. Bruyere., of the North western I had h;•----'''d t "--"`"•• '
h hM r . a elegraph from Kentish-town seven or eight
• renew their applications notwithstanding previous refusal. tat r. 1 minutes before, saying " line clear." There are twe
that in all such cases trade societies, by operating any preliminary inquiry that it would be practi- by competent persons, who would be able to pro-
MANCHESTER, FRIDAY. as trade agencies, and assisting in the gradual re- "3. That the said tribunal should be formed by a per. cable to make. e num er o patents, va lan nounce whether an invention really were novel or email'
Bruyers is a polie now
sidines clo
, se to my place, one on each side. If a train were
anent and salaried judee assisted when necessary by the Th h f l'd d • '
Mr. Lewis-Was your statement written down ? coming out of the siding on the up line I put my own
The sections all met again this morning. moral of hands to places already secured for them, md •f • • b ' •• • invalid, is becoming perfectly frightful, and it is im- not. (Applause.) 1 Witness-I shall answer that next time.
a vice o scientific assessors, and that its sittings should be signals down-that is all I do. I mean the danger sienal
SECTION F.-ECONOMIC SCIENCE AND would achieve an equal success without a stru 1
gg e, public. possible to makeout with any certainty what one is - I Mr. Lewis-You must answer it thi t. . On the down side I
STATISTICS. without wasting a week's wages, and without a "4. That the same tribunal should have exclusive juris- at liberty to invent or to use. There ts probably 211-E FATAL RA LL WA Y A CCIDENT A 7 Witness-(after some hesitati 8 late-
on)-Yes, it was written 'is clear Ido net use my own jud ment. If the tu%ne'l
block the line, g
_KENTISH TOWN. down as I can see the Finehley
This section met under the presidency of Mr. W. thousandth part of the ill-feeling which is conse- diction to try patent causes, subject to a right of appeal. not one patent in twenty of any use, or likely to be ' • station right through the tunnel, 1,500 yards. If there is
-• Mr. Lewis-Why did you hesitate to answer my question shunting going on at either of my sidings, I block both
Newmarch, F.R.S., and was numerously attended. quent upon a strike ; that strikes are therefore "5. That the jurisdiction of such tribunal should be ex- so, unless, as in the instance of the railway wheels,
The following appeared in a portion of our impression of at first ?
Mr. D. CHADWICK read a paper on the progress either wholly injurious, or an entire waste of effort tended to the trial of all questions of copyright and regis ' h ldh tb d d •bl b`
- they sou appen o e ren ere practice e v
e i yesterday evening :- Witness-Becaus ways, and telegraph to the stations on b h'd I
ot m es. received
•
tration of design. the labour of others, and then the patentees would e I thought you were asking me about no telegram informing me that there was • •
shunting going
of improvements in Manchester and Salford during to an extent of not less than a million sterling per At twelve o'clock the Cor M
oner, r. Humplarey, resumed things you have nothing to do with.
• " 6 That the scientific assessors for the trial of patent h a on there on Monday evening. I have receiv d h 1
the last twenty years. annum, or the bread of 38,460 each, with the addi- • step in and carry off t e pro ts. Under the present the inquiry at the Vestry-hall, St. Pancras-road. Mr. Lewis-Oh ver e sue te e-
ses should be five in number (to be chosen from a panel , y well. Were you not asked ques- grams at other times-in b '
ad slippy weather.
STRIKES. s a e p to become
tion of 4,000 or 5,000 who would have be 11 d eau
• • • t t of things every inventoris com elled
en ca eof 30, to be nominated by the Commissioners of Patents), Mr. Metcalf, the barrister, appeared for the London and tions when your statement was taken ? • By Mr. Park-I had received notices from Kew that the
Dr. WATTS read a paper on strikes, of which the into employment by the profits in strikes ; that a for the adjudication of facts, when deemed necessary by the a patentee in mere self-defence. If he omit to do so, North-Western and North London Railway Companies • Witness-Yes. excursion trains would be returning that night from ei ht
following is an abstract :-After some observations court of arbitration would be able to deal •hl
wit ocal judge or demanded by either of the parties. he may fare like Mr. Brunel in the case of the wired Mr. Lewis, of El 1
y-p ace, appeared for the relatives of
- - ' Mr. Lewis-Were you not asked about the signals ? till half-past nine. This train was an hour within gt
IV itness-Yes.
on the general nature of strikes, Dr. Watts said- misunderstandings and •
misrepresentations, and "7. That the right of appeal should be to a Court of the gun, or he may have his invention taken from him E El•h • M
mma ng is , r. Charles Watson for Elizabeth Allen. • minutes before the time it was expected. I should considecra
s
Exchequer Chamber, with a final appeal to the House of •
entirely by another person patenting an improve- Mr. Lewis-Although you had previously said they were if the auxili '
ary signal on the Hampstead side of Kentish-
Economic science rules that the price of labour, heal many differences before they came to an open Ca '
ptain Yolland, the Government Inspector, was in h
at Danger ?" town sta "
Lords. ment and rendering the original unsaleable without non had been put on it would be sufficient to have
like that of any other commodity, will be regulated rupture ; and that co-operative societies, whether attendance. Witness-Yes. Every time I crossed the line I looked stopped the excursio ra• '
"8. That for the preliminary examination the assessors ;4_ On the other hand, if the original invention be n t in. . . .
by the supply of, compared with the demand for they succeed or fail, will find I
emp oyment for much (if the judge requires their assistance) should be tw6 in '''' The first witness called was, at the signals, excepting last time when I saw the train BMr W• 1
y . i son-The auxiliary signal at Kentish-town
it, and working men practically acknowledge the talent hitherto misdirected, and will tea h I
c essons number, named by the Commissioners of Patents from the Patented, then the public suffers because no one will Mr. George Greenwood, Allensterrace •
, Fairfield-row, coming. I did not look at anythi'n '
g but it. I have had was on danger when I received the telegram from Finchle -
truth of the theory even while fighting against it, for of wisdom and prudence which will d
ren er such a existing panel ; the decision to rest with the judge. ' make improvements to be absorbed by a patentee* BOW who identified the bodies of the two boys who were the book I produce since the 4th August, 1860. The road station " train on line " but I d'd t • ' Y
, i no again notice that
they withdraw labour from the market, thus mak- foolish waste of capital as that lost in and spent on "9. That the committee approve the principle of com- The system is full of crookedness. As an argument '
killed. The eldest was eleven and the youngest soen old rules had been entered in it. I have only been sienal till about three •
minutes after the accident happened,
ing it artificially scarce, in order to keep up the a strike for wages al t '
mos impossible. pelling patentees to grant licences on terms to be fixed by for patents it is urged that the product of a man's "%years of age. an engine driver about 13 months. I was previously occu- an"'d it was then on.
pied as a fireman. I had never driven an engine before I By Mr. Metcalf-I ot th
arbitration, or in case the parties ehall not agree to such mind should be deemed his property. Bat who can - g e reply from Kentish-town
price. But such an operation, even if successful, Mr. E. Hill, the Rev. Mr. Molesworth, Mr. Faw- arbitration, then by the proposed tribunal, or by an arbi- • Mr. James Rees, 21, Walcotsplaee, identified the body did so on this line. Before I acted as fireman I was a before the excursion had passed by tho station.
say that the invention of a patentee was not con-
is short-sighted. The operatives forget that all c t
et, Mr. Bracebridge, Mr. Tartt, and Mr. E. Ash- trator b't t
or ar ira ors appointed by the said tribunal. of Mary Sellis, as that of his sister. cleaner. By Col. Yolland-The Kentish-town auxil• ry • /
increase to the wages fund comes out of the ceived by other persons as well, or that he had the - By Mr. Metcalf-Every station-master has the power and the signals at Kentish-town are b • is
eigne
worth made some remarks approving the paper. " 10. That a report be dra up in confo ity with the airs. Elizabeth Turner identified the body of Mary oth lighted from my
profits of the employer and the invested savings
Lord MONTEAGLE strongly recommended Arch- resolutions passed by this committee, and that the council, priority ? If the invention be his property, why
Clement. The deceased was her cousin and 44 years of to shunt a train when a train is expected We never station The were not l• h
y ig ted at the time the excursion.
of the workman, and that to arbitrarily pre- • u- .
,f, if such report be approved by them, be requested to allow take it from 2 It • 'd
him at the end of 14 years . is sal come out fth .d. • • •• • '
o e in. mg without the signal is given to us train passed me. The auxiliary slnal only showed the
bishop Whateley's " Lessens in Money Matters age.
from Kentish-town. That signal was given before I left it danger arm and not the lights.
ealth is j
vent the production of w ust as injurious in order to enli h h • f 1 •
g ten t e minds o the abouring it to be read at the meeting of the British Association to be if copyright can be supported why not patent right
Mr. Henry Stacey, Bird-in-hand .yaed, Bow, identified on Monday evening, and I also saw that the danger signal It being now half-past 7 o'clock
to society, and as certainly lessens the future demand classes on the la- tft le th th h •
su Jec osii es ; e oroug in- held at Manchester this year." also ? But the two cases are widely different.
the body of Eva Stacey. She was about eleven years of was up. There was no appearance of anything being done The Coroner observed, alth '
ough he had intended e
for workmen, as if the employers and workshops d • - • . In the report it was observed that the objects the g t oes no. ena .e t e author of a book to
Copyri h d • b' h
octrination of the children of working men with to stop the approaching train except shutting off the steam. tinning his sitting for a few hours on the fll ' °n-
and plant had been burnt or been cas •
t into the sea. such 'essons would eventuall tend to revent the committee had in view were to devise means by prevent other persons from writing on the same age.
Mr. Thomas Saunders, of Harold-terrace, Bow, engine- If the danger signal was up at Kentish-town, the driver of (Saturday), he had reconsidered the matter o owing day
, and he would
übject, or using is 1 eas. fhere need be no fear
The main object of trade societies is to keep up - f y 13
which those evils that had sprung from the changes s • • Is' "cl ' the excursion train oueht not to have
, passed it under any relieve the jury till Monday morning a ten o'clock.
occurrence o these dangerous combinations. driver, identified the body of Richard Saunders
wages, and lam not prepared to assert that they do lately introduced into the Patent Laws might be f t
0 WC, persons writing independently the same book ' circumstances. If the auxiliar • 1
y signa was up between The inquiry was then formally acrour d 'Li
, The CHAIRMAN referred to the roceedings of the James Hills Portland-street Ste ney, identified the j ne ti Monday
Hampstead and the Kentish-town station he ought to have mornin
not in some cases succeed, but I wish to inquire ii P - remedied, and better protection secured to property -b t th
u ey may easilY happen to invent the same ' • ' P - gat ten o'clock at St. Pancras Vestry-hall.
Select Committee of the House of Commons which body of Richard Hills, as that of his brother. The de- stopped.
strikes be a necessary condition to that success, or in inventions. Many matters of detail were dis- thing Cupyright, therefore, eau create neither -
recently sat on this subject-a committee admirably cussed, but the minds ofthe committee were 131. fl • -.•
- - -• • • ceased was about 32, and was a telegraph clerk. By the Coroner-The train which preceded the exeur-
ef, on the contrary, any possible success achieved by c ie v impediment nor Injustice, but patent right does COUNTRY MARKETS.
Mr. William Emmerson, of North-place, Queen-square. sion train had no accident light behind it. It ought to
constituted, consisting of such men as Sir M. Peto,
•
such process could not equally be arrived at by less directed to the best means of preventing grants for both. It cannot be disputed that the Patent Laws have had one to show that an excursion train, not a regu-
Mr Mackinnon and Mr Walter •
, which after a worthless or frivolous inventions, and to the con- a • • f ' • t The deceased, Elizabeth Allen, was brought to my surgery
LIVERPOOL-SEPT. 6.
objectionable means, and if it be not possible to ar- • ' - * y restrictingthe free use o ideas, do in that res ect lar train, was following.
most labor].
"ous and im artial inve • '
p stigation had stitution of a tribunal for objections and infringe- at least obst • • • P on Monday evening, about half-past eight, She died in
By Colonel Yolland-The lamps were lit in the station at Tthh7sremwoarsn very large attendance of millers and dealers
range trade disputes without resort to this fearful ruct inventions : and if on the other
' consequence of a fractured neck. , mg's market, and we had an extensiv b •
e um-
come to an unanimous report, recommending the meats. A preliminary examin t. •cl d •
a ion was consi ere hand it be contended that, b means of the re- signal and on the down line auxiliary. I could not see the ness doing in English wheat, at an advance i4d
sword of strife. The main causes of strikes have
y Mr. J. D. Hill, house-surgeon to the Royal Free Hospis -I- • to 6d per
up a
uxt wry from where I was standing. Before the 1001bs over the currencies of last week. Floou
establishment b a
Iyw y of experiment, of Councils essential, since the cost of patents had been so much ' r also met a
been threefold-the desire to limit trade, the intro- wards they hold out, they also encourage it, the tal, said-Thesdeeease • '
d.Emma English was admitted to the accident I wasalriving the tender first, and I had a red light brisk demand, at 6d to ls per barr 1
of Conciliation ; a recommendation in which he reduced and the facility of obtaining them was so most that can be said is that the 11 ' . and oatmeal were still slow of salee, and sack higher. Oats
duction of machinery, and dissatisfaction with the ypu opposite institution on Monday. She died an hour afterwards from showing to Kentish-town, and a white one towards Cam- but maintained their
cordially concurred. great. The notion that an inventor had ari ht t
g o ways. But surely, if this be all, there C:111 be no den-town. The ordinary train was a little behind time, value. Berle broueht 2
, d per 601 b, beans 6d per qr., and
rate of wages paid. Sometimes the strike is against .
concussion of the brain. . eas ls e ryo
p pr q ver last Tuesday's prices. Indian corn in
MECHANICAL SCIENCE. a patent for any invention, whatever its merits or sufficient warrant for such arbitrary interference and it was about five or six minutes after that the excursion great favour, and fully Is higher.
the new machine, and sometimes against the ar-
Mr. Willis, house- "
surgeon of Middlesex Hospital, said- .
Mr. Bateman the re •
, p sident of the section, having want of novel
ty, leaving to subsequent investiga- with libert f t• • l•
y o ac ion as is exemp ified in the train passed. * --
rangements rendered necessary by its introduction.
The deceased man, Standing, was brouteht to the hos •
pital This having concluded the examination of this witness WAKEFIELD-SEPT 6
taken the chair, tion the question of vard't
i 1 y, was founded on first of the three cases I have related, and which .
A Liverpool shipbuilder in 1859 got the copper for
Mr. SoOTT RUSSELL laid on the table the third on Monday quite dead. The organs of the abdomen the coroner and jury then proceeded to the Westminster The demand for new and old • •
wheat wee ve od
a ship's bottom punched by machinery ready for - erroneous views of the principle on which patents may be regarded as typical of a large number
were thrust up into the chest, which caused death. The Hospital to take the evidence referred to at the opening of at an improvement of ls per qr over last Prid 17
m erate'
Steamshi Performance
report of the Committee on p , were granted. The object of the Legislature in of similar cases. For m art Ib l• h
y p , e ieve t e millers extremely cautious. New barley is ay s rates, hut
nailing on, but his workmen struck and obliged him
t e proceedings.
tGdd' d • h •
wo reenwoo s were a mitte at the same time. Both cheaper, with
This he said was a very long document consistin
a dull sale. Other articles unaltered.
to set the hand punches to work to go over thejob, ' g excepting inventions from the law against mono- efficacy of these artificial rewards is much overrated. When the coroner and the jury arrived at the Hospital
' ' Ibl bl •
chiefly of very va ua eta es which were obtained died in consequence of ruptured liver. ---__
polies was to benefit the public, who being The eagerness with which persons contond for the 't was found that the poor man was so ill that his evide e LOUGHBOROUGH-SEPT. 5.
as if it was not already done, and to pay them for
Mr. S. Ringer, house-surgeon, University Hospital, said 1 - tic
from actual experimental trials with various steam- n e zea wit
the sham. The stay-stitchers of Kettering struck . thus restrained from the exercise of a right must mere honour of an invention, ad th I ' h could not be taken in public. He was therefore screened At this mark t to-d
atth;re was a middling show of
most of them in actual ractical work, some Mary Sellis died in consequence of concussion of the brain round, and the coroner in the n'ce of Col' Yoll d wheat ; trade moere acti ay
receive some advantage in return, which advantage which investigations in science are pursued where -
,13e5ronaodv_ansce upon recent
against the employment of the sewing-machine, and
shfitPhsem in her M t ' P
annehaee other an
' rates-white, 608 to 6v4es'; reed
ajes y s navy, and some of them Rhoda Oliver died from rupture of the liver ; Clara Maria took his evidence, the 'jury persons who 58 per 36 stone
so strong was the sympathy of trade societies that ° was to be found in the invention for which a patent no money reward is attainable, show how little Barley quite as high as in the week previous, malting'
1 d • a
erap oye in ,e mercantile service. He, therefore, Clements died from fractured ribs and injuries to the lungs ; accompanied them remaining outside.
subscriptions were sent in aid of the strike from the was granted. The assessors referred to would virs cause there • t • '
is o anticipate that men would volun- selling at 378 to 41s per qr., grinding 288 to 30s 30
per st.
ve a short epitome of the ob•ects •
j ea rried out b Eva Stacey died from fractured skull and fractured leg ; On their return to the Inquest Room at twenty minutes Oats a steady sale, and more mone •
y obtained. Beans ec ere
y tually discharge the functions of a jury, and they tarily consign their inventions to oblivion in the to six,
very machine shop which supplied the obnoxious
tghae commett d • Richard Saunders died from fractured skull • and Edward steady, at last week's rates.
i ee uring the last year. On Thursday
articles. It seems to be very difficult for working would find all such facts as were necessary under absence of pecnni rk 11
ary recompense. ie a other Hills f '
rom rupture of the abdomen and other wounds. The Coroner read the evidence of Charles Cox, a pas- -
a paper was read in this se i
ct on by Mr. Atherton, senger in the excursion train, and George Woodley, the EXETER-SEPT. 6.
men to get out of tee idea that improved machinery , the direction of the judge. faculties that of '
, Invention gives pleasure in the Williara Hall identified the deceased Geor eH.B lt
o on.
the chief en ineer
g of Woolwich Dockyard, which signal man. 'Wheat advanced slightly to-day, and may be quoted as
will lessen the demand for labour, although both r. UGHES rea e resolutions passed at a exercise, and no factitious stimulus can therefore be He was a firem
M H dth an on Ham stead Junc'tion Relwa
P Y.
had a most im ortant b •
p earing on the subject. Mr. a- Mr. Ringer (the house surgeon) recalled-He said the The evidence of Cox was to the following effect. HE f.°ll°wa '--; .
theory and practice prove the contrary. It is quite A meeting of the Manchester Patent Law Reform necessary to insure its act' 't Althou.sh the P
iv]. y. . a . . . . . wneat, wmte.. 7s Od to7s 6d I Berle
stat d h was asi I th N h L d •
e e gna -man on e ort on on Railway. Y. 45 Od to 4s 6d
therton showed that by a little variation in the deceased died yesterday in University Hospital from Ditto new .7s 6d to Os Od I Oats 3s On le 38 6d
certain that for a new machine to get adopted it Association, held the 30th of August, 1861. tent La -
ws ought to be discussed solely in reference
At the time of the accident he was riding in the break van Flour, fine, 465 to -s ;
shape of a ship, as great a difference may be scalds. seconds, 41s to -s per sack.-
must make a profit to its owner over and above that Sir W. G A ONG then read the following to public policy, it would seem harsh to exclude
-. -RMSTR • front of the train, and next the engine. He did not
made on the freight of goods carried by her „ , • . , . Mr. W. Yeomans identified the body of John Yeomans in CATTLE.
of the machine which it supersedes. It is equally aper Oa the Patent Laws : '-Having lately on a from consiaeration the interest of the inventor '
as that of his brother. notice the auxiliary signal, but at the Kentish. town stetion Fat beef,p score, lOs to 11s6d Ewes, per lb ....Old to -cl
(that is, in her actual mercantile value), as there
13
V • d • ' th • 1. Let us examine th . the signal stood " All right." The danger signal he was Pork carcases,do lls 9d to -s Wethers, do.. .... 6ed t-d
certain that the increased demand for labour, the pu ic occasionexpresse my opinion on eimpo icy , erefore, what advantages would Mr. Ringer said he died in consequence of a fractured
is between 100 and 132. In short, the quite sure was not on. He was looking out to see all was right, Lambs, per lb 71d to 8d Fat calves d 6- °
increase of population and of material wealth, have f the law of patents for inventions, I will take the naturally accrue to him su osin mono ol to be k ,o•.•id to 7e.
Rough fat, 3.1 d per lb.
proper shape of a ship for a particular pur- o • • • • ld 1 h ' PP
g 13
y nec
' and looked out nearly all the way. The guard had men-
been most rapid where machinery has achieved the present opportunity of amplifying my remarks on withhe--• en tee first place he gets the start of all The C.lroner said he had been informed that there was a --
tioned just before, " We're off to Camden without qe "
am. .
pose, as compared with an improper shape, would se se s a • e ' If I+l, 4-1 t • Th " l'. 'll ‘1 "I . • •
witness who it was very desirable should be examined, and BRISTOL SUGAR-SEPT. 6.
greatest perfection, as in the cotton trade of Lan- inat maim, an. In so emng see....a. e can pursue competitors. -e presumption is eis wh. uneerstane
He (witness) saw the danger from the trucks being on the
give as much as 32 per cent. profit, or loss, upon the as he was in a most precarious condition, he thought it
cashire. And is it possible, by any strike, to stay no better course than to relate in the first lace some his subject better tha th eo 1 dth f
n .o . er po
eiame, r
Th erve
would be desirable for the jury to proceed to the Univereity line. He could not say at what rate they were going, as arn itiaiv(t„hhiraid a veil quiet week in raw sugars, and prices
performance of a ship. This, coming from such a
dvslivr.Almv•efined ror there is only a '
the progress of invention ? I hope and believe it is of o n personal experiences of the oPerat•on fbe able to keep the 1 d
ea in imprd v
h:nh epu ic
Hospital and take the injured man's depositions. The jury he was not in the habit of riding. The white light at the limlted biLinefs'
quarter, was a most important declaration, espe- h mYI w - fI b di Ple h e reat faith • Kentish station was turned on. He was sure it stated all taken for present requirements, Lartetehse etre:To mmhuale
ebereen
not. But most of the strikes which have come under tat aw. Soon a ter egan to rect my atten- av g . in a name, an w n e once gains could then also view the body of Boulter. b -
cially, as in Mr. Atherton's case, the result of vast as right ported dull.
my observation have resulted from dissatisfaption tion to artillery the late Mr. Brunel consulted me a reputation he will obtain a preference not easil
_ . . y This course was agreed to, and while the conveyance for w ee
experience. It showed that that was now estab- - George Woodley's evidence was to the following effect
with the amount of wages paid. This dissadsfac- upon a plan of constructing a cannon by enveloping to be lost. If he be a poor man to begin with he the jury was being got ready the Coroner said in order n t BAIL WA Y .INT Ii:LL IGENCE.
lished as a truth, in the mind ef practical men,
a• t 1t b 'h • I h h•d must be content to ' 1 ith difficult hth to lose time the w•ld ' eed ith th ' . . °He said he was on the break ith C d '
van w . ox, an saw at the
tion, so far as the cotton trade is concerned, is nin erne u e wit wire. n t eory tei ea was strugg e w y, we er . , yoa proc w e examination of
which this British Association, and this particular witnesses. Kentish-town sta • •
ton the signal denoting " all right." He w
sometimes general, and sometimes local, It is gene- perfectly sound, but there were various practical there be a patent law or not. How successfully he
did not notice any light on the ballast train. He saw the TRAFFIC RETURNS FOR THE WEEK.
er ins, e river o e as ram, said-I
section, 20 years ago, was ridiculed for attempting -diffi . - . • h • • John P I th d " fth ball tt • . •
ral when the state of trade requires a reduction of ulties and objections to be removed. A fter may do so wit out the aid of patents and with what trucks 60 or 60 yards before the collision. The excur-
to establish. It was formerly believed that, given l c •d • • bfi • 1 result • • •. e . am an engine-driver in the employ of the London and Miles Opened. Receipts.
wages, or when workmen think the state of trade fu ly consi ering these Mr. Brunel determined to ene cm sto himself is exemptined in the North-Western Railway. I was employed on the line on sion train might have been going a little sharp at the time, Railway& n_.......____Th se
the mid-ship section of a ship, her dimensions, and but he could not tell at what rate. 1861. 1860. 1861. 1860.
justifies a rise ;it is local when the hands of one have a gun made upon this plan at his own expense, career o g p
f Geor e Ste henson and man others of
y Monday evening, the 2d instant, removing ballast from
her displacement, there were all the elements of George Webster, guard of the ballast train, said-I ac- - ----__
place think themselves worse paid than the hands and I undertook to carry out the experiment for the same c y
lass. In m own case I became an inven- Bushy to Kentish-town. I recollect arriving at about 4 ,e
forming a good ship from those data, the form being companied tho train to take in fuel. It was near sel•ren Ballymena and Port Rush.. - -
in other places. The workmen seem to desire to him. But just as I commenced to do so it was dis- tor before I had capital at my command or was 530 p.m. at Kentish-town I discharged the ballast and
ether immaterial mat
an altog ter, and more a ques- t then went to the Camd 'ad f f 1 d t ' o'clock. The engine was attached to the tru k Belfast and N. Counties.... 136 136 2,0-93 2-61
en-rol
hal ue an wa. en Belfast and County Down.. ,49 394 to? 2'637
have a regular standard list of wages throughout d that nl f k b f ed in suitabl b • I •
coveret k ot
fy a
tieitv wee s.d e oreda
\patent had engag . e usiness. n some ins aeces I
I when it started from the siding. The driver sounedel
tion of taste than anything else. The British Asso- b
returned to the siding. a guard with me Birkd., Lane., & Ches. June. - - ..._ _
each department of the trade, regardless of the ad- een
.a en ou or e same i ea, an s Ir. Brune . .
1 have availed myself of the patent laws and in others his whistle tbree times, and the signalman at the Blyth and Tyne 2O 20 1,536 1,942
ciation, however, instituted a series of most nume- at that time. It was about five m* t t
inu es pas seven.
125 125 7,702 7,128
vantages or disadvantages of particular locare
i les, was in eonsequence precluded from proceedine not, and lam satisfied if those laws had not existed, Juror-How do you come to know the time so exactly station put up his hand to mean " All right, come out." I r6l
as il se tdoolnai na
nd Exeter
21g 16,778 15,910
rous and costly experiments upon this subject, and mean by the danger signals those used both day and night. Cockermouth & Workington 21g
the quality of the machinery used, or the materials with his ro•ect. No , *th t t f h° I should have been sub ta tiallv in th '
p t wwi grea respec or t e . s. n
~. e same poSI- ' then ? - -
carried them on continuously for a great nnmber of . • The engine brought the trucks out. The train came to a Cork and Bandon 2O 20 346 370
to be wrought up. If trade 1 Ift I
a ways e a arge mar- ability of the gentleman who in this instance was tion as at present. I will mention one case of my Witness-I looked at the clock ith C d
n eam en yard. Cork, Blackrock & Passage. 6-1 64 283 297
years. Those experiments succeeded at last in satis- • • d • • fh • • • tandstill, and the engine was detached and put in front of Cork and Youaital 26 - 254 246
gin of profit, these differences might not be impor- . enabled to acquire a monopoly of the idea, I must unpatente inventions, because --e circumstances Examination by Coroner continued-When I went on s
fyine the public of the value of for •
min a ship, to such • the siding the engine was attached to the trucks. I then the trucks. I was holding the points for the ballast train Cornwall ' 54 531 1,523 1,364
tant, but when a manufacturer has to keep up a - appen to e nown o r. ateman, the chair-
be allowed to observe that if Mr. Brunel h b k t M B
and to turn it on the down line. The signal was still up. I did not geuebsliidne& Belfast Junction .. 673 673 1 r 371
an extent that at the present moment there was no opened the whistle for a signal to the policeman at the
large establishment upon a single penny per pound myself had remained at libert t s the man of this section. I allude to certain valves of a
y o pur ue Kentish Town station. I got an answer to my signal from notice them after. I stood still when I saw a collision must Dublin and Drogheda 63 63 1,997) 2:11'321
steamship in the world now performing 14 - . h . novel con tti , li. h fi t 1' dto th take place, and I saw the up-train run into the trucks. It illutinb.d&azaicnkrEtniritiligt )
I,EI
It 4 3,28, 1 2,640
between the price paid for yarn, and the price ob- experiment t e public would have had at least s riuc onf wth ic
mwaercehesrtser a
"atleer ork e him. His name is Rayner. He waved his hand,
knots an hour, which was not a vessel made upon d t a Ircir=ritil J NI 1714 I'o
11l
tained for cloth, then a shilling per ton extra for re a. ez izt a
iI stye , tha.t thbatt slvas to leave the yard. 1 rtillerilheent:scalo ones.tatfoidiostvi'litelirintoz :31.7 the sign: stood
.Ditzlzg•se
the exact form resulting from these experiments of tstuodhouble chanceA of
iit•ea.lisintiga the
amszstzeoef vuoese
h ilevaTvepse though° not Patented, and Lugsli
coals, or the existence of an extra toll bar, and a
of,. :n
tizgiczaws,,,,
Litte. LT t:.nti.idelesnlsottion
I never noticed the signal before the ballialsYnbi tearmmeit u
Easet Anglian • un•
674 674 1'8,5 l'2:;
the British Association. (Cheers.) And, if at this
tions Etao flU•plan :re still'nnreemoP:ed. This iex_ afterwards extensivel • use. in other great water- and the auxiliar; E C unties Nrik.,&E.Union 499 499 26 318 26 489
few extra miles of carriage to the market, make the , of the siding. I had a lamp in my hand, not a flag, Edinburgh•and Glasgow
moment 14 knots was as common as 10 knots was
ample, which is not an exceptional one, exhibits works, have been, _ ' • usively
,e,,,• ;lied by Both signals "blocked" the line. I then came out from the
difference between profit and loss. The manufac•
.-e siding. The guard detadked the engine from the trucks When I saw the up-train coming I showed my red light. EF:odirtbl uzga Peerth,& Dundee 78 78 4,064 2,750;
d Junction
before the experiments took place, that 14 knots
both the impoliey and the injustice of the law. It the firm of which re i . ..e. ~.-i-e at the 273 245.
.- . I heard the engine whistle of the ballast train. The ordi- Farness Y
turer also feels that if he lays out capital on im- and proceeded on the down line and recrossed again on the 31 31 1,489 1,4 5
was due to the change of form that had taken place ' e•'-ikeeu n nary train was about five minutes late. I should Olasg,,ow & South-Western IRR
-I 1831 8,952 8 893
proved machinery, or supplies extra good material, i let. t r ent M Brunel fom a l • seine time open t. •ch
w.as mpo iicop. QV r. r poy ying
~,, :a- -.. Pe , up line. My flagman was at the points. His name is Great Northern 283 283 28 945 28'5
in steam vessels. He said it was atsolutely due to F. -.
. • ,-,-- . the think about 12 minutes ela sed befo
p re the excursion came G t N th f S tl d • '43
and thus enables his workpeople to produce more in his talents and his money towards the attainment and the only 0 e Stuart. I mean that he held t •
n: he points for me to get on the rea or oco an
this change, because he would give them this prac- • - a''.- I don't know anything- about the time the excursion net.Southn. & Westn.(lrind ) 329 229 10,472 8,301
a given time, he ought to get a trading profit upon fan object of public importance, and it was un- event of a paten a.; \a" ~.; ha n grafted line. There was no pointsman there but my signalman. He uP•
~.
,_ .
7451 751 53,7 8 52, 25
tical fact-that those ten knots an hour vessels, ° - - i ''''' '', train was due. There were no lights at the back of the ?nryeesent WesesslerAnberdee
such extra outlay. The price of labour is a bargain hist to give the monopoly to another without roof upon teem theY wo. , ,
0 e ou 'of 'nay hands held the handle of both points. Having recrossed to the up n June. 55 55 1,164 1,072
which were built on the old form, had as much as 3 . P • * ' ''' ' line the engine was again attached to the trucks by Stuart. regular train or " excursion boards." All was Irish South-Eastern 25 25 326 225
between the employer and the workmen and it is
, of priority of idea. Cases of this kind must neces- and monopolised br e e•. Under any state
done by both parties, as far as my judgment will allow me Lancashire & Yorkshire 3954 3951 43,637 42,70
one horse's power to propel two tons, while the vesseli . • 4-.-, • • The effect of that was that the eneine was in front o
, f the . . Leominster and Kington
not unnatural that each should put a different esti- sarily be of frequent occurrence, because similarity of the law cases wil ~ . , ardship and inade- to say, to prevent a collision. I did not notice how the Limerick and Ennis.
now performing 14 knots an hour required as little as trucks ; she was in the first instance at the rear. After the
uate reward, and these ou ht to b t b Limerick and Foynes 24 24 143 12a
signals stood after the accident at the Kentish-town Sta-
mate upon the proposed arrangement. Any dissa- f • t 11 1 • '1
o circums ances wi constant y suggest simi ar q Y flagman had turned me on the down line again, I Llanelly 461 461 547 571
dne horse's power to three or four tons, and, in the ts from the State. Theg al• e ml
e
ran . . . pu ic cou d well tion. London & North-Western . 1004 1004 94,142 93,989
tis faction on the side of the workmen is submitted ideas to different minds, and the man who first g was then driving the train across the line. The train .
case of the Great Eastern, as one horse's power to nine afford to be liberal in this respect if they escaped congisted of 18 t k d b
Loonnronn Ingoßultr-Wealsitern . 4004 343 213,84 21:9470il
to the central committee of their society, which ad- plies to the Patent-office uts a sto uon all sstaannd. reek
,van. The signals when I .raßnys.Mrl.vWe
hilasovne-HoTlhiset
ogfuarrdivhaalss charge of the ballast
tons, in order to propel them at 14 knots an hour. the imposts of the present system. At all events, ros'sed the linerwucas
vises whether to accept the terms of the employer aopthers ho re dire ti g tt Pt' o t the') s 13
e sub- nf
saatw
t'
hDeaenxgceurr. 's'i 0
nAtfrtaeirn . I hßaed. t 1
I first saw the excursion traianr at theolif etnhteisehs-ctuorwsinonsttaratiionns.. L,oonn3.onßriugiliat,oilm&,Sti Sooayset.r 2-pf 223* 22.883 20.352
This fact was now recognised, he believed, almost
g cannothear eenx
aimn l
eo 0 f
admifferent hardship and injustice are not prevented by. the cproceeded for a short timel,
or to organise a strike in order to force the employer jeet. Iw wilal ive I did not look at the signals at that moment. The driver Lond., Tilbeurz, & Sfmthend 41 IP tr, 1,79 g
for the first time officially, by Mr. Atherton, a existing patent laws, but rather the reverse. The fore I got the engine clear of the up-line I saw it coming.
to give the price demanded by the society. The dif- kind, but equally cogent as the I:st. I: 1849 the I took it to be an excursion train by its following so closely of the excursion train I should think could have seen the ralinCtl.heuni. a'er'el°lBl 299
29gt 1544/7 15,493
1,308 1,141
Government officer, who, in his report, gave it as man, for example, who was mainly instrumental in red light I showed him. Maryport and Carlisle
grence in dispute is sometimes not more than 21, Great Northern Railwa Com n osed to use
y pa T prop . _ . after the regular train. I had waited for the regular train Midland (incl. N.-Western) 6144 6144 43 094 43;555
the result of his experience that as much as 32 per b • • • th
ringing into use e screw propeller, one of the By Mr. Lewis-I was employed on the line a lat la Midland Gt.Westn. of Irind. 1924 4771 '
frequently not more than 5, and seldom exceeds 10 h ' •1 •
. for t eir rai way carriages a solid wrought iron to go by I knew there was one d b tth •
ue aou at time. -- • e 4,421 4;463
cent. depends on giving a proper shape to a shi before I was en d ' P e Yer
per cent. of the wages paid. The duration of a strike -a - - p' wheel-that is to sa a wheel in which th k most important inventions of the age was unable will. I. ited f h 1 • agwe
errtesettemgiunardu. I
ididdindot
ektnkowe that six Noonnkmloanud
thsh. Rail. & Canal 4: T 1 12,4444, 1,603
with the same material. This was a fact which the e spied e,
tnei .
Aeweireen
aeorthte erreezearr
trtramin I weeds 7 the down;
excursion traings
to obtain any advantage from the' law, while I
varies much. The great Preston strike lasted 38 nave and rim were Yin'ade of wro ht • nproviu thzes igrignhd
(tru l
astahat a:peemclrst
was one. I don't knowg ttat any Vi.Wll' L sbeelkirk 78
78 3,(2)69 13,M
committee had been very anxious to educe, and they siogthernn,s?: . ed
another person who conceived the simple idea of whistle. I had not the slightest lildePa
weeks; the late one at Padiham, 29 weeks ; Bolton, into 'a
continuous iece. Amon
p g nin a made for those excursion trains. Our order,. and Galashiels)
had also desired to ascertain for every particular .
bl• t pto be •I t d train was due about the same time as the regular. We are ' North Devon
ena leg one postage sam easi y separa e
541 609
six weeks ; Ashton and district, six weeks; Clitheroe pattern which was one of those chosen, and contrscts furnished with information relative to the time and run- were to work between the ordinary trains. I N-Eastern(Bedale&LeybrO 74 761
' v 1 *t
f Is.
e oci y o a s ip what wee the particular shape best . . fro unching a series of little holes .43,387 45,234
six weeks ; Blackburn, three weeks. The strike of were entered into by the comyany with the sue- m another by p the reguiar trains, but not of the excursion trains. am positive the red light at the Kentish-town I.,:liorgir korll.lon . 9 9 2,720 2,748
suited to that velocity. They had reason to believe . . . b h • l dhi a position to obtain an fling' of
taftordshire ' 246 233
the London builders lasted 26 weeks, and the late cessful competitors. I had no suspicion that any et ween temis p ace 1 _ When I saw the train comino• Ike t onward to get ~,, station was up before I left the siding. There i 4 no doubt i. or
981wmesntrey and Newton__ 30 16 7'gf; 8,g7
the Admiralty would accede to the request made to exorbitant recompense from the Govetnment. The train clear if I could. I wa;not enpahled - -Th' abotit that. The auxiliary down • 1 a l ' T
Colne strike 50 weeks. Let us assume five per cent. atent existed a licable to wheels of th• t
isll na. ure, tsoavrtiiite tr, sera
isuialseciaz
ii,hx: HI y_ Y.
St. Helen's Canal & Railway 1!' 1P al: 2 7.4
them, to arrange for testing the weight of resis- system is lavish in its rewards, and ie easily put in and a collision took place. IVhen I flrst were the only two signals I could
as the average amount in dispute, and assume that Pend I believe thPepother makers ere Lectiissihi tleourttLa-lEastern IV g 3,865 3:611
tance of every ship by means of dynamotnetrical e q uta yt i girii oci
force in cases of small inventions, which would coming she was near the Kentish Town station. Sr. evening dusk. I should say dusk is about half-past 7.
4,437 4,225
the strike is in every case successful, and we shall rant on the sub•ect. But afte wthe
J r . con rac
.s a The red signal is generally put up in the month of Septem- .§,hrreewsbury & Birmingham - -
traction, so as to enable them to determine for each . nickl t light without the aid of protection, seemed to me to be going at quite 40 miles an hour. h wsbury and Chester -
___
then find the adage which is applied to disputants been completed and the wheels delivered, a claimant q Y conic o
She was.going fully at that speed. She had not passed ber before seven. It was my duty to see that the red light Shrewsbury & Hereford
steamship in the British Navy what was the real e h•l • • ldom of much avail in the case of great - --
Shropshire Union 294 29k
at law, " that he who wins loses," is equally applic- tent taken out in 1835
d h d d • wieit is se the station when I first saw her. She did not was up to protect the down line. 916 ggp
value of her form, as distinguished from the value appearh.
hwh odpbro uce . a pa
' • • ' 'ne long investigation and gra- South Devon
able here. A week is nearly 2 per cent. of a k•
wor in g een lying dormant for upwards of inventions, requiri a attempt to pull up at Kentishstown station It Charles Cook examined-I am a fireman in the em I
was not PoY South-Eastern 306 306 26,243 28:393
of the propelling power of her engines. This had aln3d w ic
.a. .
- d 1 d 1 b '
ua an a orioa
, s advance from step to step for usual for excursion trains to t ,
Kentish-town without,
, of the London and North-Western Com an and acted as South Wales
year, and of course represents nearly 2 per cent. of the years, e.vaiting unti p
1 other ersons had succeeded
Mo d 1 p y'
S. Yorkshire.and River Dun la' VIP 7,5'2 8,509
never been done, so far as he knew, with any ship . their deve!o ment. I readily adroit that the law they are timed to do so. Tlise Zs:tlt of the collisien was to such to the ballast-train on a:re ast. After going to Stockton and Darlington
wages of a year. If therefore a strike for 5 per cent. in renderng a wheel of tbat descripti.on prac.ti-
in the British Navy. The kind of result they now P • ntions is capable of amelioration. knock a great many of my trucks to • Camden to take in water and fillet came back alone the Taff Vale 5.1 54 4,833 4,96/
pieces, and sent them
of patents for inve
b Ulster
succeeds, its results will be exhibited as follows: ble This example shows in a strong light a vice over the right hand side of the e b down-road, and crossed to h •d• B •
te sf ing. efore moving the
had was different and of inferior value. He was ea ' ' h h • • l f legal and scientific men to m ankment. The Ulve t
A special tribune 0 rost one and Lancaster . lg is()) 755 745
The loss of one month's wages will require to make which runs throueh the whole patent system viz second truck from the engine was the first struck. driver blew his whistle, and the policeman at the Kentish- Vale Clwyd.
happy to be able to mention that the form '' - ' ' " • • f patent right and to exercise
it up 1 3-sth of a year of work at the extra rate; Heath]." the mere seheme as the essential part of decide all questions 0
The engine and first truck escaped uninjured. The fire- town station gave the all-right signal with his hand, and Vale of Neath N r 1,879 1,720
which resulted from the experiments of the .' . - discrinaination in the granting of patents would be
two months' wages, 3 1-sth ; three months' wages, the invention, and the working out as a matter of man was riding with me. The guard was at the back. put up the danger signals to block the line, both the day aA VLatteerritoorrg aan ITlicwelnl
77 4
I,log 1 Fog
British Association had now been adopted d d ''
I ch good, although not free from
4 4esths; six months' wages, 9 3-sths ; 12 months' minor importance. In the present instance the atht.en
.e 1 wite The flagman. was holding the points at the time. I had nightt signals, the red arm and signal. They were also put y,v,:est co It_
it Urnpwal Harbr.&Rail. Fc," p -59 '74
by the Admiralty ; that the hollow water lines, 1 maulsory licences and the abolition b ou a , the down auxilim..y. I could not see the up auxiliary " 4,255 6,169
'wz"..ges, 19 1-sth. But as money is worth 5 per scheme, or so called invention, amounted to nothing. °
_Jt en !- • n P ;zing bVlastf ftorc:ight or nine days. Twenty West Midland. , - -
or the form knovvn as the wave line, were the foreign inventions would also ie the signal beyond the station. The sienals put up were to pro- W'haven,Cleator,&Egrmnt 7 7
t 2 462
cent ~ it follows that if a strike last l'el months, and f h , right to patent s for a tram When I saw
Whitehaven Junction l2 12
No one wanted to be informed that such a wheel .e . , tect both the up and the down linbe. The si nate I know 632 6,7
e lines on which they constructed their largest and I regard the whole system as the train. comin.• I o • '
pened my whistle. Not the least Whitehaven& Furness Jun. 35 35
671 727
then succeeds, the workman has lost in interest would have to be made by welding separate pieces D nts, but
improveme .
were kept up until such time ' g h d
as our engine was attac e to
fastest ships, inelhding the Black Prince and the l'tic and h notice was
see nO ot er com- take f•t I f •
n o i . oresaw there would be a colli •
/nue; 1 more than h h • d ' d h
e as game in wages, an t ere- , . f iron in the centre and at the r;na as desc ib
r ed unneces.,•ary e:nd itnpo i ,
sion, and to.d my mate there would be an accident. I was the front of our trucks ; but if they were up after that time FoREIGNanAgIOtGeLrO,NIAL.
II arrior. The report of the committee, now ready °b •
1 t dfo •ts evils than its mire abolition. I cannot say. I did not see any one remove the platform tansTr7arg t aam• • • Bt'
6p 1,451 1,201
fore mo part or the loss can ever be naade up, for y the patentee. There could be no difference of pe e reme y r i not in any way injured by the collision. All I saw of the 3 43,145 37 521
for distribution, contained, in the first place, the t take exception to
if ho would have worked for the 1 '
ower sum during enion on that head The onl uestion a h
y q w s ow Before I conclude I mus a Pee- corn •
sion was that the excursion train was coming at a signals at th(setsattEittion before the collision. I first saw the
,Itlfginnstege=n..:
_N 264 297 '2BB
performance of a large number of her Majesty's otpi
~ , in our president's iau r I train at the n. As soou as we saw itwe could see it was ' m. m 1,099 729
the year of strike, and have invested instead of eed i *
o pr.oc n order to produce the wheel of a good 1 sage w Ten oc?urs . H ngu ?, g.reat speed. I did not see the engine run off tho Detroit and Milwaukie
2,914 2 760
vessels, in the manner he had stated, the indicator b• t
tec .
~„ coming at the rate of 40 miles an hour. I waved our side Dutch Rhenish
I address in treating of thle su e says, "it line or turn over, because the trucks were acr 1084 1081 5,351 4'834
Eastern of France
spend.ing the money, the year's wages w ld I
ou lave uality and at a marketable rice and on the
P , se . ew is w ist e rom t e moment E t rnd,
• - 1 d dth d • bl lo* li* 1 f h
arap re ,an e river nee 1006 59,390 5i360
diagrams being taken as a measure of the power, q . . . h have d n 1 •
o one t e east to the line. I saw the effects of the collision about 142 1,700 '930
grows 1 into three years' wages nearly by the time points the specification was useless. The atentee is asserted by those w
we saw the excursion till the collision. As near as I could darasini-fruannk of Canada.... AI
in wlrich the gain of the strike would make up for and the results accurately recorded. Other tables
h efo did t advan e h P benefit their u t „i, b inventions that amo o ten minutes after it occurred. I saw some of the
say, the regular train had gone up some seven or eight Great Indian Peninsula.... 3504 2°7' 1(11N 1%£43(t)
t er re Ino
ll
bc
bt.
.e art of wheel making excursion train carriages on the left hand side of the em-
showed the performance of seven of her Majesty's oly i in' re'e ehr" Noyvv, to say nothing of inn *
the loss of a single year. Of course a strike for one jot. n a pro day he never made a ju ihous. minutes. I believe that train to be the 635 from Kew. I grreeaal kuexsetemrbnooufegcanada.. 128 1248 3,948 3,048
yi bankment. At this time my engine and one truck was on
vessels, and many merchant vessels, under a variety Plf tsh taken the same view think she was about her time. I did not notice the tail Lyons and Geneva i/52 M ::4: 7610644
10 per cent. would require only half the above wheel or tried a single experiment, and yet he sue- se a oseow o have the down-line, and the remainder on the six foot and the
of circumstances, some a them very peculiar. The be referred' to in LsUe m lights of that train, but I noticed there was no " special" 13,110a;E.Itried,
nSaorag,oss a &Alicant 301 284 12 578 14'812
term, to make up the loss, whilst a strike for 21
ceded in levying a tax upon those who, by their d re n t men to h up-line I did not sicmal after the accident had occurr hr f Canada
committee believed they were doing a great benefit terms. It is strange that this question can- I have •been b ' 1
seven years in the emp oy of the company. - board •
on it. Northern of France
per cent. would require 41 years. The strike of the t , 1 dlb hd d -
out ay an a our, a surmounte the real and . Norwegian Trunk 44 44 1,265 1,..a)9
o tne merchant shipowner in furnishing him with a h holding th d• • By Mr. Wilson-I can judge of the speed of a train com-
not be discussed even y one e igni- By Mr. Park, counsel for the Kentish Town si nalman 879 840 90,236 76,599
litiss,./zoxietiMs editerrn
London builders in 1859 was for 10 per cent., and only difficulties of the case. I will ment'on one kg towards me as well as I could if I was by the side and
v tematic table of records of the performances of his
h 1 ' fled osition of President of the Briiish Association -I could not have got back fro 6a de T g
as i t lasted 26 weeks, would, if successful, have re- s•• s ot er examp e, which, though a very ridiculous one, . Toceearlier saw it pass me. It is my firm belief that the excursion Pernambuco 364 _ 461 _
ships ; and this was positively proved by the fact P vr i on ersonalities. If the remark than I did, after takine in fuel al walr n was a Royal Danish 69 69 871 683
qui.red 10 2•oth years of continuous work at the ,is pertinent to the present subject. During the without eg ng p
was coming at the rate. of 40 miles an hour. I noticed the Sambre and Meuse 6B 68 1,314- 1 4_,3
' that this system of reeistrat:
e son had been adopted .
- - t th t ld remain unaffected.
~ were rue, e aegumen wou signal between LI ainpstead and Kentish-town stations. If e Kentish-town st iat the time I saw the South Austrian
signals up at th at on _ 1251 917 53,'!14- 40'648
en tra rate to make up the loss of wages sacrificed. Crimean war, when the attention was natural! the signal stood at. " danger," the excursion train ought not e the nof F •
with the vessels of the London and North-Western
I m h el• • w W h 't b th bl• •udge. (Sir W.
het er i e true epu ic man train coming into the station. Ido not know whether the .°
Se eullanrd ranee ...... - 777 773 24,455 19:636
Ti in associated oolliers have spent about a quarter uc irected to the improvement of artillery a to have been coming at so great a speed.
Railway Company for the last eighteen months, 1 - . . - •'A 'k f Ildd)
rmstrong s remar s were requent y app au e . By Mr W tt I
ya - had to travel about a mile and a half driver of the excursion train could have seen the danger West Flanders
of a rnillion since 1842, and the al d
am gamate en• tain inventor brought to the Ordnance Select -
cer .
signals up at the Kentish-town station on the other side W. and N.W. of France 774
773_ I, 2,4 1,004
U K,013 48,456
d that com an h •
wine su li
an p y 0 pp ed to the corn-
tt e a collecti The other papers read were by Mr. Thomas Web- to et the' fu
(Ai: aeers threw away nearly half-a-million in 1852. Commi e on of about 100 schemes which delgay
in
delhel a.nd water. There had been no unnecessary
coming round the sharp curve from Hampstead. ________
mittee the comparative results before reeords ' ' RS " P • I ntions, and its
ster, F. . ~ On roperty in nve -enne the ballast There were other engines --- e n
A ecOrding to our assumption of capital of £65 per embraced every form of gun that could "b 1 b By Mr Lwi 1b 1' I d h 'ne-driver of the
e s- e ieve an t e engi
were kept, and since, it appeared that a great saving 1 possl Y e d M f t ." bMrMa fi
~, Effect on Arts an anu ac ures , y • ce, beside my own g:ttin '
g water and fuel. I can't say how - ' BIRTH S.
ir idividual, the amount thus lost would have given •nvented. If, therefore, the committee would n 1 ballast train saw the excursion together, and we put on all
had taken place in money, in repairs, and in time, 1
ith him the ° ''' "On Patents considered Internationally ;" and by many-not whether there were two or half a dozen. I did ABDY. On th i
cie 67,11,V;,0aftaWdaeulwomrHerts, tho wife of J.
a mployment and wages to 17,184 persons. All make terms w l i r need never be troubled „ not feel alarmed at the approach of the train. I did the the steam we could to get out of the way. I saw both arms T. Abdy, Es
to the owners of the ships, and a greatly increased M W. c;pence "On Patent Tribunals.
of the semaphore up at the station. If any one has sworn '0
... OLTIMORE. O'n' the 4;11 inst in Gresv
the above named, except the Preston strike, with any future c a man a. The committee was r' -. ' • f _ best I could to prevent it. 1 enor-square, Lady
performance of the ships themselves. The corn-
The discussiun on the whole series 0 papers then BM W. "at thFre was but one 'a I think a mistake P '
arm up, it i , , . oltirnore, of a daughter.
have occurred within the last two years and overwhe y . esigns, le .r. ilson, a juror-We have no particular time for
lmed with the multiplicit of the d •
so mittee were also enabled to furnish the returns of The dnver, myself, s,nd the guard went up to Easton to STEWART.-On the 6th inst., at 13, Relgrave-
-1 • half, and all have ended unsuccessfully, and begged the i
'nventor to make a selection of those commenced. eying Bushey. We leave as soon as we get loaded. We square, Lady
make a statement We gave it to Mr. Bruyeres and others Isabella Stewart of a son
the whole postal fleet of the French empire, con- N the President of the Association have pape •
Mr. FAIREATE. , , rs given to us relative to the ordinary trains, and * • ' *
t hat tbere has been no compensation whatever. tie considered the best. He accordingly picked out and they wrote down something, but Ido not know what WAND -On the sth inst., at Whitkirk, Leed t,h H
ducted by a company called the Menageries Ina- f Sir W. Armstrong, as- our orders were to keep clear of them. We have no informs- 8, e on.
To resume, therefore, I conclude that a strike t a large number for a firsAt exdamination, and these in redfeLen:e to 7 rereartkhfott
~
they were writing. The driver went into the room first, Mrs. Edward Wand, of a daughter.
periales. Among the tables were given some ersonslities" were a tion regarding other trains, and were never told when the
st rict a trade, either by limiting the number of?;:- were handed over to Mr. n
.erson, at that time the sure st.i. gent eman . P L were coming. If the dangea signal y and me and the guaid went into the room together. I only et AtthstAuFa
valuable records of cases where ships had under hter ) He had was on at
Prentices, or preventing the employment of efficient inapector of machinery, for his report. Mr. Ander- commodity he never dealt in. ( aug • Kentis,
a-town I should not pass it, as the line would be knew they had been writing down my statement when it T n,,:„ . .
BOSOANQUET-741ITTRELL.-vn rue eta inst., at Kilve
gone alterations in various ways.
not intended any condemnation of Sir W. Arm- blocked. was read over. The guard did not hear my statement nor S mersetshire, Henry Anst
workinen who have not Leen apprenticed, being an son, of course, found them a collection of those crude That sienal was not up when I passed, but • ey Bosanquet, Esq. of No 9:
After some remarks from Sir E. BELCHER, d's statement. I signed that statem t
en . I heard Lower Berkeley-street, and the Inner Temple', to M;rry
invasion of individual liberty, ought not to succeed ; ideas which pen-and-ink inventors can produce in n e and was exceedin I sorry if any remark of as soon as
stro „, . . g y . I had passed I knew the danger signal Lthsetg
are
tof the driver, the guard and m Anne the younecst da
, y own real o lighter of Colonel Luttrell, of
The PRESIDENT intimated that it was not ens-
his (Mr. Fairbairn'sl had been offensive • but he was placed I can't say how long it remained
eve mn
• Kin*: Court.
that the more rigidly such rest it• ules are en-
r c ive r . unlimited numbers, and which are almost worthless • ' uP•
er. Ido not remember any questions being asked when es
fo reed the sooner w* tomary to discuss reports printed in the " Transac-
maintained that the principles to which he had given uP. I know •
it was up when I was shunting. When I saw
re YOULTER-IVITREA.-
ill they be destroyed. Strikes . „ until reduced to practice. The committee, there- the tra' all there together On the 4th inst ,at St. Mary d
in coming I did not look at the signals. I did all Iwe we . ' Castro Church Guer y, B I''p It E e
inst i Lions
ag -a mproved machinery are attempts to stay the ee * T xpression in the assa e referred to were correct.
fore, by his advice declined to entertain them. Now, e P g could to George Wightman-I am a police-constable in the em- Lincoln's-inn, 'to 1-1 use
rown ow ou er, sq., of
prevent a collision. The main signal was between
air. JAMES Havwoop F R S d a lengthy re-
, . . ~ rea arriet Amelia, yuungest daughter of
pr ~..,gress of human intellect and '• • • (Hear, hear.) ploy of the London and North• Western Railway, at the Rear-Admiral WC
civilisation ; they whether this fertile inventor had sufficient confi. . . me and the coming excursion train. I did not look at it. rea.
port from the Committee on the Patent Laws. It
ori ein ate in ignorance of the tendenc ' • The discussion, which was rather animated, lasted Mr M Hampstead station. The 6.35 Kew train i
ie y ot such ims dence in h p e
.. . . _ . • i etealf-He has said he was using his utmost exer-
is schemes to induce him to take atent passed that sta- DEATHS.
prov ements, the displacement f 1 b appeared that the Committee of the National Asso-
until late in the afternoon. It was shared in by tions to prey t ll•-•
en aco ision. tion up on Monday evening at two '
minutes past seven, BEALES.-On the 3d inst., Mr. Samuel Beales, late of 106,
0 a curers caused for them, Ido not know, but the law would certainly
ciation for the Promotion of Social Science, recog- MI F irb •n, L dWr tt l le G ove, the BY th
a air or oes ey, In . r , Coro.ner-The engine drawing the excursion which was seven minutes behind t' Th was onl Bish
ere y opsgate-street without, aged 74.
by
rww maohjeiery being an oceurrenee to be r - have permitted him to do so. He had only to pay •• d I bh• d line.
trai l one re amp ein the last carriage of that train. The BLAIR.-On the 29th lt t Senareleeie in S '
vided a-rainst b v well regulated t a •• P ? nising the general feeling which. existed among Meyor of Manchester (Mr. Curtis), Captain Blakely, . n was what is called a " tank engine " and was trave -u., a , , witzerland,
n ra e societies in his fees and invest his ideas with a semblance of ling in front. ' regular train had passed ten minutes when tho excursion Richard B •
lair, Esq., youngest son _I the late Alexander
persons interested in manufactures that further ~ . and the Rieht Hon J. Na i r who brialv expressed
the form of tem poeeery relief until the labourers can practical detail., in order to take possession of a wide Mr. L • train came up and passel through at the rate of about 30 Blair, Esq., of Portland place, aged 78.
reforms were required in the law relating, to patents con c• h • Poef 'h
•tiee. BY ewis-I produce the book ef regulations. [Book
be reelaced or other wise Provided for. B t t*l eurren ein t e report t e comrnt miles an hour. For abo FRvEn..-0n t t. at Hemin ford
he let ins , g , Abbot ts Hunts
r u 8 rizes field of invention, to the exclusion of all persons handed in.] I bring up my own flagman and guard. I ut 100 yords on the London side ,
rh,
mnas Skeels Fryer, Esq , formerly meth s ' . • t
for inventions, and deeming the subject vsithin the Lord STANLEY, in the course of some remai
Is on the line is on a level but • e henff for
a ga.inst new machinery, can never permanently sue- having the means and qualifications necessary for saw the fiao- in the man's h
, and, while with the other he it approaches Kentish-town the cousiies of Cambridge and Huntingdo
ceed, and all money thus spez.'t is therefore entirely • scope of their association, appoiuted a committee to . .
actical • • the sub.met. said he did not think it would ever be t
arriving at pr rbesults. This readiness to give train across the line. I did not see the train it is on en in l' ' as
cthiene of lin 101. I was not inLrieed of the HIGGS -On the 6th inst., at Brixton-hill, n'Laugkeed 68i. g ,
investigate the question, inviting the assistance of found fjh t ti- hi the Le isl tre were wil- cuormniend my
exact tim• eof ecials except tihat they wher:
tt.o run at Esq , late of the Home Establishment of the Eastßlngdisa
thrown away ; and when trade ifi in such a position
protection tobmtere !c emes is the bane of the sys- a
thefp.u. ic or
(71;eit-i the mantfirstbhiad hold of !he points. Tihis:
9.30 a.m., or hosysp
several gentlemen conversant with this branch of lin°. t '
o bay a, inventors no e p
shouldg ':bu rotected or seas aga u.. omnues e. ore the collision. It was e many, or how . ong, .or w ime they Company, aged 78. .
as to render a unio f ' 'or a reduction or
n o employers s tem. The o s ructive tendency of the patent laws would retur -
than • that the n , there was no specified time. There were six Prineies.-On the Bth inst., at Weymouth E
_ __ , the law, and who had given considerable attention Id
rewarded. He was quite sure the State cou not . a minute from the tnne I saw the engine , dward W.
against a rise of wa • • .
ges possible a strike cannot posse- to the is aggravated by the fact that, in addition to the accident occurred. special excursions that da , four in the morning and t , Phillips, Esq., of Melkshain, Wills.
bl question. The result of the committee's reward them, and thus we were thrown back on from half-past one till ty•
- IV-
4th • t
wo in the afternoon. I got a tele. Pater.-On the ins ~ at Dover, Thomas Pai , Esq
y.ssicceed,fortislon as th a • h 'tier standin 7, •
g eta is mac e y patents which are legally valid there are an enor- Mr. Metcalf-The trai •
n he has said was coming forty
if a fair profit b 6 deliberations was embodied in the following reso- , a
some system of reward, of the nature of a p tent. gram of these six excursion trains. They none of them Registrar of the Cinque Ports, aged 84. n ''
e possible hands will be sought for that
A'utions, and reason - mous number incapable, if properly opposed, of miles an hour
machinery at a rise f ' a stated in the report for their But the practical refornss to which it seemed to him •
SALE -On the Ist ihst., at Athe
signalled stoppedjat my station. In theevening I received a teleer rstone, Warwickshire, G.
tz wages if necessary, in order to being enforced at law, but to which people quietly Witness continued-The passenger trains are
m Sale, Esq., aged 80.
secure the profit ; adL eption. The resolutions were :- -whether they could be effected or not-attention in the ordinary way when a ballast train is on the lino. 1 from Finchley-road at 7.10, that an excursion train° tile
at whenever it is ossibl
p e for a el. That all application f submit rather than incur a troublesome and expen- a
fore I cora- passed there. The needle worked " train on line" and I ----- ------------ --
local strike to succeed' s er grants of letters patent 'on of compulsor alwa s see that th si als a
elle turned, were the quest y y egn re at danger be h
eht to be
Doe : Printed and Published b
it must beeither bec sive litigation. This is a necessary.consequence of replied " line blo ' d " I then tele r Y MURDO, YOUNG, at
in that; locality are below ause wages should be subjected to a preliminary investigation before a licenses, the question of forfeiting patents which m. ence shunting. The guards always book the time in 8 unt-
.0 . cee . g aphed to Kentish- LONNo. 11`', Strand, Printer at T
the avera e or be
g , cause special tri:lntnal• patents being indiscriminately granted to all ap- mg. The book is sent to Mr. Lamb. Everything done twn in about a minute the words " train on line" I re- in the Precinct of the nE
SEW
Office, No. 112,Strand,
the demand for hands bei were lying idle and not worked out in practice . avoy. tn the County et Bliddletten
ng general the local em- "2, That alai tribunal shall have power to decide on 4 plicants, without investigation of their claims ,
• ; daring the day is entered in a book, I have given a state- c Rated et Kentish-town to one in reply, if train an line." Saturday. September 7 1 IMI

witnesses.
John Perkins, the driver of the ballast train, said—l
am an engine-driver in the employ of the London and
North-Western Railway. I was employed on the line on
Monday evening, the 2d instaat, removing ballast from
Bushy to Kentish town. I recollect arriving at about
5 30 p.m. at Kentish-town. I discharged the ballast, and
then went to the Camden-road for fuel and water. I
returned to the siding. I had a guard with me
at that time. It was about five minutes past seven.
Juror—How do you come to know the time so exactly
then ?
Witness—l looked at the clock in the Camden yard.
Examination by Coroner continued—When I went on
the siding the engine was attached to the trucks. I then
opened the whistle for a signal to the policeman at the
Kentish Town station. I got an answer to my signal from
him. His name is Rayner. He waved his hand,
meaning by that that I was to leave the yard. 1
came out after seeing both signals, the one at the station
and the auxiliary one on the down line for Camden• town.
Both signals "blocked" the line. I then came out from the
siding. The guard detached the engine from the trucks
and proceeded on the down line and recrossed again on the
up line. My flagman was at the points. His name is
Stuart. I mean that he held the points for me to get on the
line. There was no pointsman there but my signalman. He
held the handle of both points. Having recrossed to the up
line the engine was again attached to the trucks by Stuart.
The effect of that was that the engine was in front of the
trucks ; she was in the first instance at the rear. After the
flagman had turned me on the down line again, I
was then driving the train across the line. The train
consisted of 18 trucks and break van. The signals when I
crossed the line was standing at " Danger." After I had
proceeded for a short time, I saw the excursion train. Be -
fore I got the engine clear of the up-line I saw it coming.
I took it to be an excursion train by its following so closely
after the regular train. I had waited for the regular train
to go by. I knew there was one due about that time.
While I waited for the regular train I was on the down-
line. As soon as the regular train passed I opened the
whistle. I had not the slightest idea that an excursion
train was due about the same time as the regular. We are
furnished with information relative to the time and run-
ning of the reguiar trains, but not of the excursion trains.
When I saw the train coming I kept onward to get my
train clear if I could. I was not enabled to get it clear,
and a collision took place. When I first saw the train
coming she was near the Kentish Town station. She
seemed to me to be going at quite 40 miles an hour.
She was going fully at that speed. She had not passed
the station when I first saw her. She did not
attempt to pull up at Kentish-town station. It was not
usual for excursion trains to stop at Kentish-town without
they are timed to do so. The result of the collision was to
knock a great many of my trucks to pieces, and sent them
over the right hand side of the embankment, The
second truck from the engine was the first struck.
The engine and first truck escaped uninjured. The fire-
man was riding with me. The guard was at the back.
The flagman was holding the points at the time. I had
been conveying ballast for eight or nine days. Twenty
is the regular number of trucks for a train. When I saw
the train coming I opened my whistle. Not the least
not ice was taken of it. I foresaw there would be a colli •
sion, and to.d my mate there would be an accident. I was
not in any way injured by the collision. All I saw of the
collision was that the excursion train was coming at a
great speed. I did not see the engine run off the
line or turn over, because the trucks were across
the line. I saw the effects of the collision about
ten minutes after it occurred. I saw some of the
excursion train carriages on the left hand side of the em-
bankment. At this time my engine and one truck was on
the down-line, and the remainder on the six foot and the
up-line. I did not signal after the accident had occurred.
I have been seven years in the employ of the company.
By Mr. Park, counsel for the Kentish Town signalman
—.I could not have got back from Camden Town earlier
than I did, after taking in fuel and water. There was a
signal between Hampstead and Kentish-town stations. If
the signal stood at " danger," the excursion train ought not
to have been coming at so great a speed.
By Mr. Wyatt—l had to travel about a mile and a half
to get the fuel and water. There had been no unnecessary
delay in delivering the ballast. There were other engines
beside my own getting water and fuel. I can't say how
many—not whether there were two or half a dozen. I did
not feel alarmed at the approach of the train. I did the
best I could to prevent it.
By Mr. Wilson, a juror—We have no particular time for
leaving Bushey. We leave as soon as we get loaded. We
have papers given to us relative to the ordinary trains, and
our orders were to keep clear of them. We have no informa-
tion regarding other trains, and were never told when they
were coming. If the dangea signal was on at
Kentish-town I should not pass it, as the line would be
blocked. That signal was not up when I passed, but
as soon as I had passed I knew the danger signal
was placed up. I can't say how long it remained
up. I know it was up when I was shunting. When I saw
the train coming I did not look at the signals. I did all I
could to prevent a collision. The main signal was between
me and the coming excursion train. I did not look at it.
Mr. Metcalf—He has said he was using his utmost exer-
tions to prevent a collision.
By the Coroner—The engine drawing the excursion
train was what is called a " tank engine," and was travel-
ling in front.
By Mr. Lewis—l produce the book of regulations. [Book
handed in.] I bring up my own flagman and guard. I
saw the flag in the man's hand, while with the other he
turned my train across the line. I did not see the train
coming when the man first had hold of the points. This
was about two minutes before the collision. It was less
than a minute from the time I saw the engine that the
accident occurred.
Mr. Metcalf—The train he has said was coming forty
miles an hour.
Witness continued—Tho passenger trains are signalled
in the ordinary way when a ballast train is on the line. I
always see that the signals are at danger before I com-
mence shunting. The guards always book the time in shunt-
ing. The book is sent to Mr. Lamb. Everything done
during the day is entered in a book, I have given a state-

George Wightman—l am a police-constable in the em-
ploy of the London and North. Western Railway, at the
Hampstead station. The 6.35 Kew train passed that sta-
tion up on Monday evening at two minutes past seven,
which was seven minutes behind time. There was only
one red lamp behind the last carriage of that train. The
regular train had passed ten minutes when the excursion
train came up and passel through at the rate of about 30
miles an hour. For about 100 yards on the London side
the line is on a level, but as it approaches Kentish-town
it is on an incline of 1 in 101. I was not inf,ra.ed of the
exact time of the specials except that they were to run at
9.30 a.m., or how many, or how long, or what time they
would return ; there was no specified time. There were six
special excursions that day, four in the morning and two
from half-past one till two in the afternoon. I got a tele-
gram
of these six excursion trains. They none of them
stoppedjat my station. In theevening I received a telegram
from Finchley-road at 7.10, that an excursion train had
passed there. The needle worked " train on line" and I
replied " line blocked." I then telegraphed to Kentish-
town in about a minute the words " train on line" I re-
Noted at Kentish-town to one in reply," train on hue."

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No. 112, Strand, Printer, at THE SUN Oitice, No. 112,Strand,
in the Precinct of the Savoy, in the County of Middlesex
Saturday, Septet:l4er 7, 1801.