The Sun.
London, England, 1857-02-13 00:00:00

SUPPLY.

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On the motion that the Speaker leave the chair,
Mr. LA YARD called attention to our relations with
Persia, and gave as his reason for the notice he had
given the extraordinary character of the proceedings
of the Government that of commencing and conclud-
ing war without consulting the house, and also that he
disapprovesof our Central Asia policy. lle asked tho
noble lord seriously if a debate on Persian aff..irs would
interfere with the negotiations for peace, because, if so, he
must content himselt with protesting against the course
that had been pursued
ence to Persia. by the Government with refer
Lord PALMERSTON said it
was impossit la to say
what would be the result of a thing that bad not
happened. At present he thought ittbe Government
have a
were in negotiation a debate mightvery injuri-
ous effect. It was the desire of the Government to
conclude a peace that should be durable and
advanta-
geous to both countries.

Mr. BAILLIE asked:the Government to lay on the
table of the house the ultimatum sent to Persia before
declaring war. This Government said it was in conse-
quence of the Persians attacking Herat, whilst the Per-
isnsrepudiated that such was the case.
Lori PALMERSTO.N mid it would be impossible for

bin to comply with the request, because it Trou'd
be detrimental to the negotiations of peace.
Mr. ROEBUCK said, the boasted supervision of this
bou-e appeared to he at an end by the c,,urke
ad pted by the Goverorne-t The house kcew
n that they ought not know
airyiminz. put a ques.i,n on a subject before
any inis'zilief happened they were told by the Govern-
ment that they were too soon. When the thing was
going on, that they wera meddling at a wrong time, and
when it was over that they were too late. When,
he asked, where they to put a question ?
Lord. J. RUSSELL thought the course that had
been adopted by the Government with reference to the
Persian war, very unusual. Under the circum-
stances, however, he thought it was not desirable to
discuss the question, now that negotiations for
peace were pending, and the Government were
acting right in withholding the papers. The result of
the negotiations must soon be known. They bad been
discussed at Constantinople, and the principles were
well known to the respective governments.
Mr. GLADSTONE admitted the force of the remarks
cf Lord J. Russell, and the desire of Mr. Layard not to
embarrass the Government, but there were questions
connected with the subject anterior to the war, that
of the Government going to war with a foreign
power— (hear, bear)--without the knowledge and con-
sent of Parliament, that might be discussed without in-
juring the negotiations for peace. The house could not
to precluded by anything said or dune that night from
entering into the cause of the war, but it was desirable
to abstain from discussing questions affecting the nego-
tiations for peace.
Mr. DISREA.LI said that whilst the }muse could not
withhold its forbearance relative to these negotiations,
yet the bod=e ought to view with jeal rusy the course pur-
sued, becaug.e they might find that the war with Persia
might continue during these negotiations, and the Go-
vernment make it a reason for preventing their con-
duct from being canvassed by the house. Ho asked
for the production of the papers with reference to the
Two Sicilies.

After some remarks from Mr. M. GIBSON,
The subject dropped, and the house went into com-
mittee.

THE BUDGET.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, com-
menced his statement by remarking that he had
acceded to the request of the house out of the
usual course, and he begged to remind them
that this was the earliest day on which it could be
done, end no committee of ways and means had sat.
The committee must be satisfied there had been no
reluctance on his part to lay before the house the
annual financial statement. (Hear, hear.) In ordinary
times it was necessary that the army and navy estimates
should have precedence, but on unusual cases, such
as this, a contrary course should be adopted. It
was the course of Government to stale the re-
quired expenditure :for the year, and how it should be
met, and there were certain expenses that might be post-
poned from oneyear to another, and others that required,
more or less, on which a reasonable discretion might
be had. That time bad now arrived when they had
returned to a restricted expenditure, and it was
but necessary the house should wish to know the
state of the finances of the country. After alluding
to the remarks of Sir J. Rarnsden, in moving the ad-
dress relLtive to the Chancellor of the Exchequer's posi-
tion with his budget, said it was a far more agree-
able ta for him to perform this year than in correspond-
kg years, when he had to ask f r the imposition of addi-
tional taxes and loans with which to meet the t xpenditure
of the country. He cail-d the attention of the committee
to the expenditure and revenue, from sth April, 1850,
and ending sth April, 1857, not.merely fertile purpose of
comparison and information, but to remove missappre-
hension relative b the taxation and expenditure of that
year. In the statement he made last session, after
Easter, he estimated the revenue of the current year at
71,740,0001., and estimated receipt was somewhat above
it, 71,885,000/. The article that bad proved less than the
estitnatewas in the customs. He estimated it at 23,850,000/.
and the probable result would be 23,800,000/., the defi-
c'enc'es being on the short stock of sugar and on teas.
The expenditure, including the loan to Sardinia of one
million, was estimated at 82,113,000/., givinga deficiency
of 10,373,0001., including a margin of two millions.
Deducting that from the deficiency on the esti-
mated c xpenditure included in the votes
of the house, left a deficiency of 8,373,000/. To cover
that deficiency the Government was empowered to effect
certain loans, and 1,499,000/. was raised, being part of
a loan for five millionyffected after Easter last, and
there bad been an issue of one million of Exchequer-
bills, making a total of 7,499,000/. borrowed money. The
house bad also given the Government power to borrow
four millions, but they had only borrowed one million,
and intended to surrender the remainder of the ex •rcise
of those powers. (Hear, hear.) The total receipts from
revenue, loans, and exAequer bills, had been 79, 334, 001/.,
and theactual ex?enditure, including the payment of a loan
to S minis, would probably amount to 78 millions, leav-
ing a balance of 1,384,000/. (Hear, hear.) It bad been
said that they were now keeping up war taxes in a time of
peace, but it was not so; and although the country
was not actually at war, they .bad to meet
extraordinary charges consequent on the war, and
in addition to those extraordinary payments there
bad been one million paid of the second instalment to
Sardinia, and there had been paid for the redemption of
an hereditary pension to the extent of 91,000/. In ad-
dition to these extraordinary payments, the war 'tax on
malt had been reduced to the extent of 220,0001, and
there had been pail for last year's drawback
800.0001., making the 1,53 on that article of upwards of
a milbon, so that it was not right t o say that no reduc-
tion of taxation had taleen place since the conclusion of
peace. To show the ela=ticily of the resources of this
country on the removal of the pressure of war, he
quoted the amount of British export,. In 1856 they
exceeded all that of previous years, having reached 116
millions, being an increase of twenty millions; or 20
per cent. on the exports of 1855, and of 1,695,700/.
or 17 per cent. over those of 1853, the year immediately
preceding the war. The British and Irish exports were
in 1853 cf the value of 98,330,000/., which in 1355 fell to
95,683,000/., wbilet they roee last year to 115,890,0001. In
manufactures, he found that in textile articles the c re-
pors in 1853 were of the value of
.52,990,000/. 1 in
1855 they were 51,123,0001.; whilst in 1856 they rose
to 59,915,0001. Ia metal fabrics of all kinds the
exports in 1353 i were 19,503,0001., and in 1355 they
fell to 17,892,000/., whilst they rose in 1850 to
23,509,000/. The imports of raw cotton in 1853 were
740,709,000 lbs. ; in 1855, 767,806,000 lbs. ; and in
1856, 877,814,000 lbs., showing that they had doubled
since 1849 ; and if they co.npared it with the first
year of peace after 1815, they found that they now
commenced the first year of peace with exports
three times greater than the exports wer e
in 1816. The right honourable gentleman then
referred to the imp rrte of grain, which were
much larger than in 1855, whop Russia felt a loss ire
that trade of more than half of the trade with her
in 1854. The trade was suspended in 1855, but in
1856 it increased in exports to 1,208,000 quar-
ters. The entrance and clearances of shipping
showed a considerable increase in 1856 over
that of all preceding years, and, as compared with 1855,
showed an increase of 1,760,000 toes, or 19 per
cent., and 1,906,000 tons in comparison with the
year 1853. To comfort those who thought that
the shipping trade was to be ruined by the repeal of the
navigation lass, be would state the total tonnage. In
1353 it amounted to 15,380,000 tans, but in 1855 it
fell to 15,367,000 tons, which, however, rose
last year to 17,974,000 tons. At the conclu-
sion of the war 200,000 tons of shipping were relieved,
and it was gratifying to find that that amount of ship-
ping bad gone back to the ordinary trade
of the country without any perceptible injury
resulting. The number of emigrants that left thepountry
in 1852, amounted to 368,764, whilst during thelastyear
they only amounted to 176,551, which he thoeght spoke
well of the trade and prosperity of the country. The
three years' expenditure of the country during the war,
including the loan to Sardinia, was 228,731,000/ , and
for the same period of peace it was 152,323,0001., so
that if they deducted the three years of peace from the
three years of war they would arrive at a close approxi-
mation of the expenses of the war—viz., 76,398,000/.
The net revenue for the three years of the war was
192,685,000/., including borrowed money, and if they
de lucted from it the expenditure of three years' peace,
there would remain a surplus revenue applicable 'to
war expenditure of 40,362,000/. The addition
to the funded and unfunded debt was 41,041,0001,
and the surplus of war tex etion was 40,362,000/. We
left a million in the Exchequer. He calculated the esti-
mate for the current yearns follows :—lnterest of funded
ondaeodi
ddaetbetd, 21.118,u5d5, 01,0,070017.,
0;
07017 'permanent nt
the
echarg
army,e
aonnd nfuthueen
including 400,000/. for the militia, 11 695 000/ • for
the navy, including the coastguard,B,lo9,-000/.; for ; the
preventive service,
965,000/ ;ocivil service, 725,000/. ;
rooufgh th t e intoß the
Revenue
c )11ec:ion of the revenue n
budget 4,215,000/., superannuation brought
department 475,000/., and he proposed to tavkenuae
vote towards the Persian war up to April next.
The total of the supply charges would be
32,904,000/, which, added to the charge of the debt and
unfunded debt, would make 632,240,0001., independent
of the repayment of the debt. (Hear, hear, hear.)
After referring to the loan of two millions of
Exchequer Bondsof 1854, payable in 1856,
and a further sum of 280,000/., he said that the total

outlay to be provided for was estimated at 051,710,0001.,
including 5'71101.0n for the collection of the revenue
riot charged in the former year. The rigt,t
honourable gentleman then entered into the army and
n,vy estimates that have alrew'y been published,
hereas there would be a reduction of 7 millions, and
cou.pared them with those of former years, pointing out
the increase and decrease in the varie,us items, and
s'aowing the alterations and additions it was intended
to make in these departments. He next ad-
verted to the civil service, and remarked that in
connection with that department he should have
to ask for a vote of 80,0001. for new offices. He said
that the [Exchequer appeared to begin a sound state,
and remarked that the there was not that danger to; the
Exchequer now from jobbing there was in former times,
but that ;the ;danger came from tho desire of philan-
thropic gentlemen.

(LEFT SPEAKING.)

LONDON GAZETTE--{This Evening.)

FOREIGN-OFFICE, FEB. 10.
The Queen has been graciously pleased to appoint Joseph
Andrew Blackwell, Esq., now British ;Vice-Consul at
Lubeck, to b 3 her Majesty's Consul at Stettin.

WHITEHALL, FEB. 13.
The Queen has been pleased to present the Rev. James
Gunn to the church and parish of Uig, in the ;presbytery
of Lewis, and county of Ross, vacant by the death of the
Rev. David Watson, late minister thereof.

WHITEHALL, FEB. 13.'
The Queen has been pleased to direct letters patent to be
passed under the Great Seal, constituting and appointing
Rear-Admiral Peter Richards, C. 8., to be one of the Com-
missioners of Greenwich Hospital.
CROWN-OFFICE, FEB. 13.
MEMBERS RETURNED TO SERVE IN THE PRESENT
PARLIAMENT.

Borough of Graenwich—Lieutenant-General Sir William
John Codrington, K.C.8., of Eaton-square, in the county
of Middlesex, in the room of Peter Itolt, Esq., who has
accepted the office of Steward of her Majesty's Manor of
Hemphelme. _
___

80-rough of Newport.—Robert William Kennard, of
Upper Thames-straet, in the city of London, Esq., in the
room of William Biggs, Esq., who has accepted the
office of Steward of her Majesty's Chiltern Hundreds.
Town of Southarnptan.—Thomas Matthias Wegnelin,
of Goldiugs, near Hertford, Esq., in the room of Sir
Alexander Janies Edmund Cockburn, Chief Justice of the
Common Pleas.

Town of Kingston-upon-Hull.--James Ci►y, of Mon-
tague-square, in the county of Middlesex, Esq., in the
room of Sir William Henry Watson, one of the .Barons of
the Court of Exchtquer.
County of Dumfries.—John James Hope Johnstone,
Esq., of Annandale, in the room of the Right Honourable
Archiba.'d William Douglas, commonly called Viscount
Drumlanrig, now Marquis of Queensberry, a Peer of Great
Britain.

BOARD OF TRADE, WHITEHALL, FEB. 12.
The Right Hon. the Lords of the Committee of Privy
Council for Trade and Plantations have received, through
the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, a copy of a de-
spatch from her Majesty's Minister at Vienna, stating
that a Convention has been signed between Austria and
Liechtenstein and tl•e States of the Zollverein, parties to
the Convention of -uly 30, 1838, for the assimilation of
the curren .y throughout Germany ; the Act to come into
force on the Ist of M next.
WAR-0 FFIOE, PALL-MALL, FEB. 13.

3d Regiment of Foot—Major-General Nicholas Wode-
house to be Colonel, vice Lieutenant-General Sir Natha-
niel Thorn, K.C.8., deceased.

WAR-OFFICE, PALL-MALL, FEB. 13.

Royal Engineers—Second Captain Charles Pasley, on
the Supernumerary List, to be Captain ; Second Captain
and Brevet-Major John Stokes, to be Captain, vice Cow-
per, accidentally killed at Canton ; Lieutenant James
Grantham to be Second Captain, vice Stokes.

B L EVET.
Lieutenant-General William Greenshields Power, C. 8.,
of;tbegtoyal Artillery, to be General, vice Walkerl deceased,
Major-General George Cobbe, to be Lieutenant-General,
vice Power.

Major-General John Edward Dupuis, C. 8., Supernu-
merary, to be placed on the Fixed Establishment.
In consequence of Lionteuaet-Goneral Power's promo-
tion, the undermentioned Officer on the retired full-pay
HO. of the Royal Artillery, to be General, in accordance
with the Royal Warrant of Nov. 3,185 t, Lieut.-General
Power having stood next bolow him at the time of his re-
tirement ;

Lient.-General James Irving, late Royal Irish Artillery,
to be General.

COMMISSIONS SIGNED BY LORDS-LIEUTENANT.
County of Forfar—W. F. L. Carnegie, Esq., to be
Vice-Lieutenant.

Ist Devon Regiment of Yeomanry Cavalry—W. W.
Buller to be Lieutenant, vice Bishop, resigned ; A. W. K.
Falconer to be Cornet, vice Buller, promoted.
2d Regiment of Devon Militia—E. Lopes to 133 Lieu-
tenant, vice Studdy, appointed to 32d Foot ; C. Wol-
ston to be Ensign, vice Lopes, promoted.
3d Regiment of the Duke of Lancaster's Own Militia—
John Robinson redder, Esq., to be Captain, vice De Traf-
for I, resigned ; Ensign Robert BlaAmord the younger to
be Lieutenant, vice Podder, promoted.
Northumberland Light Infantry Militia—John William
Green to be Lieutenant.

Prince of Wales' Royal Regiment of Renfrew Militia
Lieut. Robert Walkinshaw Young to be Captain, vice
Stewart, resigned; Ensign Henry Dunlop to ba Lieutenant,
iee Young, promoted ; Robt. Somerville,. Gent., to be
Ensign, vise Dunlop, promoted.

NAVAL PRIZE 3IONEV.
Department of the Accountant-General of the Navy,
Admiralty, Somerset-house, Feb. 12.
Notice is hereby given to all persons interested therein,
that preparations are now making for the intended distri-
bution of proceeds arising from the Russian brig Ida, cap-
tured on the 17th April, 1854 ; the Russian sloop Emma
Helena, captured on the 15th May, 1855 ; and a quantity
of grain taken out of six Russian launches, on the 16th
AI Ay, 1835.

BANK OF ENGLAND.
An Account pursuant to the Act 7th and Bth Victoria, cap 32, AT
the
,Week ending on Saturday the 7th day of Feb., 18b7.
MOE DETAXTNEXT.

Notes Issued

Government debt .... 11,015,100
Other securities 3,459,50,)
Gold coin and bullion 9,292,530
Silver bu11i0n........ -

423,767,500

Doted the 12th day of February,

BANKING DI
Proprietors' capital .. 14,553,000
Rest ............ 3,514,919
Public deposit E (in-

eluding i'tchequer.
Commissioners of
National Debt,Say-
ing's limits, and
Dividend Accounts) 6,554,253
Other deposits ...... 9,596,808
seven Day and other

Bills•• 11% •::: 7;8,171