The Sun.
London, England, 1857-08-31 00:00:00

THE .ROYAL ,SURREY GARDENS.

The following letters have been addremed to the
editor of the Times :
Sr,—.[i do not doubt that your column are open to
me for self defence. In your City Article of Thursday
last it is stated, that "as to the Surrey Gardens the facts
appear to be such as must, sooner or later, lead to some
crieitnal proceedings ;" and " that Mr. James appock
of Cleveland-row, St. James's, who is represented to
have been the acting director, makes no sign." Such a
reference to my particular Caine, on the day of a
public meeting of hostile parties interested, was cal-
culated to do me persorial prejudice and injury. I
make no complaint of your report of the proceedings
in the Times of Friday ; but the affidavit by Mr.
Coombe eas never read or used. Your own report says
it was CIA " without remark or discussion." I was
wholly unaware of the contents of that affidavit until I
read It in your journal. The directors were ell equally
ignorant of the document, therefore, of course, coule
not file any answer. I will hereafter prove it to he a
tissue of garbled statements, and I pledge myself to con-
tradict all its material averments. - I have ample proof
in the handwriting and correspondence of Mr. Coombe
hiwself that such affidavit is substantially untrue.
In t our leading_article of this day (Saturday) you
so ninent on that geuilernan's affidavit, and I am alleged
to have received a larger suin of money for my security
than even Mr. Coombe states ; whereas I was not the
recipient of a farthing, except so far as I foolishly sub-
cc, teed my original lien in shares.
I could not make any " sigh" until the day I did
make it. My fir-t opportunity was that before a comps-
t int tribunal. The previous meeting of shareholders re-
presenting a small portion of the capital was anony-
mously convened, and personally I had no notice th tt
any such m-eting had been called. It was not designed'
t'iat I should be present, and if I had known of such
a partial meeting of a few shareholders should not
have attended.. •
I now challe'oge the most-searching inquiry into my
acts. Nsither directly nor indirectly have I derived the
smallest pecuniary benefit front the Surrey Gardens.
I did not originate or plan the company. I originaFy
joined it rsluctantly. rultimately agreed to take shares
to the full amount of my charge up n the gardens from
my desire to aid the previous proprietor, to whom I had
advanced thefull value. I thought the company would
be profitable, or I should not have embarked .my entire
and large debt in the risk. My brother directors and
myself laboured -successfully in the first season. The
result was deemed by us and the shareholders t justify
a dividend. We then prepared for a second reason on a
more liberal scale of outlay. The past season has signally
failed us: Oar expenses wn'e too great, our capital
was insufficient for such an undertaking. The average
weekly receipts of the second season have not beeii more
than half those of 1856. We endeavoured to reduce our
expenses, but we were constantly advised by the very
persons also now celutnnitie us to increase rather than
diminish them, as the only means of retrievieg losses.
We could not and did not take any measure to increase
our capital, and we t late discovered that, as amateur
directors of music management we could not profitably
conduct such a place of public emus, meat. Creditors
became pressing, the joint-stock property was in danger,
actions at law were commenced, and applica'ions to
wind up the company were threatened. Under such
circumstances the " Winding-up Act" w:is our only
alternative. Our direction was originally composed of rig
members,: to Christmas last ; we had no differences. At
Christmas we added a seventh gentleman to our
hisard. In May het one of our body resigned, solely be-
cause be was dealing with the company in business, and
therefore could not legally continue a director. In 'the
month of July last two other directors resigned. We
met comp a week, and °cession tidy oftener. The direc-
tors throughout their administration were unpaid, and
had no privilege beyond any other shareholder. I may
fairly add, without prejudice to my fellow-directors, that
during this season my Parliamentary agencies required
my almost exclusive personal attention, and unavoidably
limited my pewer
,of attendance at the meetings of the
direction. We shall hereafter have full opportunities for
public explanation of all our j int and several acts.
I will now only add that the full amount due to the
Seacole fund has been paid to Cox and Ce., the bankers.
To the Surrey Gardens the Seac, is festival was a los.,
and the net profit to that former fund was 2231. 9i. 81.
There has be n a difference between that fund comniit-
tee and us a' to what portion of the net receipts belonged
to the Seacole fund. If it be alleged that 'any larger
sum than the one now paid is justly, or morallyv or
equitably due to- that clairty, is shall he left to arbitra-
tion ; and, aided or unaided by my brother directors, I
will not hesitate a moment individually to pay aoy fur-
ther sum awarded.

Whatever my personal want of judgment or common
sense in this company may have been, I wiil not rest un-
der charges of want of. integrity. I have forborne to re-
taliate on those who have unjustly abused me. The com-
mon o ject of all really interested ought to be the Injure
profitable conversion of the gardens. Tte music-hall is
the best iu the united_kiugdom, and the gardens have no
metropolitan or provincial equal.
The directors will concur in any plan to promote the
remaining-interest 01 the creditors and shareholders, and
they will endeavour to di-charge their duty regardless of
calumny or roi,r,pre,entation.
I aro, Sir, your obedient servant,
JAIIES COPPOCS,
3, Cleveland-row, Westruimter, Aug. 29.

Sir,—ln consequence of the grave accusations made
through ths• press again,it the direetirs of the R
Surrey Gardens for appealing to the Court of Bankruptcy
for protection against the legal process taken by one of
their own servants, it is only right that the publicshould
be wade aware that that servant was M. Jullien, wh
on the 3d of August inst., served on the company a writ
with notice Of bankruptcy for .500/., being a month's
salary due the 31st of Juiy, for three weeks of which
period he was absent and travelling through the pro-
vinces under the auspices of Mr. Beale, for his own
benefit, having appointed a deputy to be paid by the
directors.

With regard to the other charges against the directors,
the public are requested to withhold their judgment until
aftei the special meeting of sharebokhr3 about to beheld.
In denial of the assertions made by M. Juldon in refer-
ence to his salary and that of his band, I beg to state
that between the 30th July, 1856, and the 2d June, 1857,
(10 months), he has received on account of his snliiy
2,5481. 15,. 61, and that he has been paid on account
of hi 3 band 4,7891. 101., leaving a balance due of 2681.
143. 6d, in full of all claims to the 12th of August inclu-
sive, when they ceased to be under our contrel— for the
correctness of which statement the books of tho company
are vouchers.—l am, Sr, your humble servant,
THOS. K. HOLIIES, one of the Directors.
Royal Surrey Gardens, Aug. 29.

BENGAL MILITARY ORPHAN SOCIETY. --intimat ion
I has just been received from tee general rosniagen3ent of
this institution in India, that, in coniegaence.tf the dis-
'
turbed state of that country, all `female wards will 'be
permitted to remain in England after-attaining the age
of
eighteen, in the enjoyment of pension, until the 31st
Deco. mber, 1858, This liberal and well-timed relaiatikn
of the ordinary rules will relieve the minds of many who
havo ccnailered themselves doomed to go tpt to India
cre
in a few' 11.eniths, and partioipate in the terrors and real
dangers of the Aegloludian population,—.ill e
di:43.llßa/. _

.RE?.RESENTATION OF MIDDLESEX.

On Saturday evening at 8 o'clock a very crowded and
influential_ meeting of the eleelors of Middlesex was held
at the New Globe Tavern, Mile-end-road, for the purpose
of hearing from the Hon. G. Byng (late M.P. for Tavis-
tock) his views on the leading qUestions of the day, and
to adopt such measures as may be deemed necessary for
securing his return, in the place of Lord R. Grosvenor,
as their reprentative in the Commons House of Partite.
ment.
The large room was filled, and on the hon. gentleman
Making his appearance in the hall, supported by his friends,
he was most enthusiasticaly cheered.
The Hon. G. BYNG said be felt he was coming among
them as a stranger, but he bore a name which was not
so, and it was party on that ground that he appeared
before them that evening. Before he referred to 'the
political sufjects of the day he wished to make a few re-
marks why he appeared in his present pmition as a can-
didate for their suffrages, and here he might remark that
to represent the important constituency of Middlesex had
always been the highest point of his ambition. (Hear.)
Last Tuesday • be most unexpectedly received a tele-
graphic message while in Germany stating that the seat
was vacant, upon which he immediatel hastened to
meet the electore, and issued his address asking their
suffrages. (Hear, hear.) This was the first meet'
ing that he had held, but he hoped would not be the
last. He should state his views on the different polideta
questions of the day, and leave it to the electors to saY
whether they would not return him as their member.
Having apologized to the electors for detaining them
with remarks relative to himself, he would now brieflY
touch on the state of the country abroad and our home
policy. With regard to the former, there was one sub'
ject in particular that at present engrossed the public
attention, one on which a politician, And especially
young one, should be careful in giving an opieien—
meant the state of our Indian empire--(hear)—in which
scones of bloodshed and massacre were now no strangers.
He had heard it said that the country and Government
were unprepared for this smitten outbreak. It did
seem to him impossible that so fearful a state of things
could have arisen without some great and serials
causes. He thought that neglect and superstition, in:
dolence and supineness, bad had something to do with
it. (Hear, hear) He said so because the warnings of
G. neral Sir C. Napier and other distinguished men of
experience must have shown that some greet outbreak
would occur. (Hear, hear.) He said neglect and Fu"
pineness, because those officers who had been in charge
of the Sepoys had been removed and. placed in the cis'
service, and the Sspoys, thus finding that there was n°
one to take charge of them, had taken advantage.
He felt that it was an utter impossibility to hold oni.
Indian empire by justice alone. There must be sia
adequate force to support that justice. (Cheers.) Agate
he thought that most reprehensible of all systems, cen-
tralization, bad had something to do with the present
state of-affairs in India. Scarcely an officer iu India bsd
any control placed in his bands—as an instance, not even
the sentence of a court-martial could be carried int°
effect without going to the highest in authority for sane'
tier. These things were the great source from which this
shocking mutiny arose. It might be said that they ought
to have been forewarned and forearmed. Bog's"
had a most efficient army at the time of the Rue'
sign war, but after that it was thought that there wale'
be a political lull, and this Indian affair came on sna.'
denly. It would not be policy for her Majesty's Min
tern to go to the house and ask the members there an
then to sanction any great and impertant change in tb°
army, by either disbanding troops or augmenting the
army. What would hon. members say to their conktl:
tuents if they merely took the word of a Minister that
such a thing was necessary without asking for the fullest
information on the subject? His opinion was that there
must be a larger force in India. Had there been that-1
and it could have been bad if every information bat;
been given on the eubject—they would not have bad
India in its present state, and many valuable lives niigb'
lave been saved. However, as it was now there was WI
help for it, only by looking well into the question °'
what should be done for the future. He saw that Sir
E. Perry had a notice on the paper of the house of a
metion which he intended to introduce next session, wile;
ther it would not be mere desirable that the Government
of India should be transferred from the East India Corn'
pany, and for the future•become part and parcel of be`
Majesty's Government. (Hear.) It waist gkeat and jai'
portant subject, and he could not say precisely hose b°
should vote if he were in Parliament. Everything, 11°,1.'
haps, had been done with the best intentions fur India'
but he could not help thinking that if some great sobu
distinguished man, well acquainted with India, could :
found the. would be respousiele to Parliament,
Queen, and country for all that was .said - or done in
India, then there would be a Much better tate of thiSg°'
With regard to the other parts of Europe he thougbt we
were in a satisfactory condition, but still our. foreign re.
Jealous must be watched with anxiety. (hear.) l'"'e
should always aivocate a most spirited foreign poll°9"
shown in deeds end not in words. Alter a few re'
marks with regard to the conduct of Lord Strisferd edo
Redelitle, the honourable gentleman, referring to
non-fulfilment of a certain portion of the treaty °
Paris, expressed an opinion that there was every pros-
pect of its being carried out to its very letter. Coming'
_ then, to home 'affairs, the chief points that had eegaged
his attention were Parliamentary reform, vote by
ballot, Jewish disabilities, and church rates. He thought
the question of Parbainentiry reform one of the greatest
that could be expatiated on. They had lately had seve'
rid measures introduced, but none had been carried.
L rd Paltnereto: , on the first eight of the last session,
gave the house to understand that early next session a,
large and comprehensive measure of reform sbou d b°
introduced, and when Lord Palmerston got up in big
seat as Prime Minister and said that, he (Mr Byiig)
thought there was no douA that a measure would be in-
troduced. Then arose the question, what would that
measure be 1 The question of reform was one on which
the people of the country should eay something to guide'
the Government, for, let them depend on it, if the peopltn
. wanted any cnange in their representative system till
roust orgauice, and, by holding public meetings and a
on, they would show Government what they did want'
(Cheers.) He thought' there should be a large extension
of the franchise, for by the present system there least'
great mass of people at present precluded, who were a;
tit,a,nd proper persons to vote as any who now had O.
privilege. (Cheers.) He was not in favour of universa.l
.
suffrage, but his thought that a test of education n`
re,pectability should be applied ..to all men above age,
and then millions would be able to vote. He truste
this world form one of the first p dots in any measure °f
reform, He also thought there should be a more equal
division of electoral districts than at present, and that
the system of property qualification should be doneawne,
-with. (Hear, hear.) They die not have it in Scotland,
then why should they in England and Ireland I--tor ti
removing it the house would be accessible to a larger
number of talented men. He supported the motion t"'
that object introduced by Mr. Locke King, but it Was
rejected, not by a majority of Liberal members, but I),
the Ciriservativec, who always opposed every measure
of reform. He then came to the vote by ballot. By giv,
ing them the ballot, protection would be given to tb°°: •
who had any fear, and it would give secret voting to thee;
that bad the screw put on them. Still, be did 001
think it would do all the good that_ it was said
would, for if a man was bad he would continue so, °.';
whatever they could. The question bad always bad Ins
support since he had been in' Parliament. (Cheer: •)
Referring to the civil disabilities upon their Jasise
fellow-subjects, the hoc. gentleman said it was impossible
that the quest:on should be allowed to drop, for it niu'a
be brought forward again early next session, and theta Is•
the people were unanimous that this last blot on the
shield of civil and religious liberty should be removed, b 0
thought the House of Lords must give way. If tneld
returned him he would devote the whole of his time O
what abilities he possessed to the faithful discharge °-
f
his euties, and be promised that he would never lose
sight of their local interests. (Cheers.) He should alWaYa
endeavour to work side by side with Mr. R. HanburYt
and would support those great principles of LibereliSin
which his late uncle—Mr. George Byng had held forth.
during the 57 years be repreemeted Middlesex. With
these remarks he would leave the matter in the hands °i
the (sectors. (Loud,appfause.)
Churchwarden DAVIS, M.D., then moved a resolution
to the -effect—" Tuat tbis meeting, having heard the
explanation of the Hon. G. Byng of his political views, 1:
of opolinn that he is a fit and proper person to represent
the county of ftlxllloB,x in Parliament."
Mr. LAUNDRY seconded the motion, which was carried
unanimously with acclamation.
said
Mr. EDWIN JAMES, Q.O. (being loudly called for) Els
ho had a sincere and well-founded opinion that Mr. Byng
came to them well recommended, far more than by the
name, for they would find that intrinsic merit in him
that would justify them in returning him as one of WI
representatives. (Cheers.) They all knew that a grea,
name went some way, but it was not enough on svbie"
to put forward a candidate for the representation of so
large and enlightened a constituency as that of Ml'
dleeex. (Cheers.) He believed Mr. Byng bad ins;
trinsic merit of his own, which, in these days Will
rising statesmen were few, would redound lei
renown to the electors if they were to return lint
Great as the name might be, there was nothing hereditary
in talent. The brighteq talent that illuminated the
of
the dignity which adorned the judge, the sagacity of
statesman, and the genius of the warrior were not ?acre'
ditary. (Hear.) It was that intrinsic merit which Olf
Byng•poseersed which would be fostered by one of tbot
most enlightened constituencies of the kingdom. That •
would make his hon. friend one of the greatest and bee
statesmen in the country. (Applause.) He felt sure
Mr. Byng would succeed Lord Robert Grosvenor,tivll°
bad received the highest honour the Crown could noneerf
Lord R. Grosvenor was deserving of their respect, Or:
although, perhaps, he mess hot liked by all, yet he "0 a
straightforward, bighouinded man, and in heart a friend
of the people. (Cheers.)
A vote of thanks to the chairman, on the motion of
Mr. Casey, brought the I.roceedings to a termination.

Aug.
i CRYSTAL 2
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AlDdrni,sions on payment, 3.752 ; ditto by
INDIAN TELT.:GIIiPH.—Wo feel sincere
THE pleasure
at having to inform our readers that the East India
Company have consented to the' terms demanded by the
con,pany fur the formation of a telegraph to India, by
the Red Sedroute, and have agreed to pay 20,0001. e
year, dating from the receipt of the first message, towar3o
fraying the expenses of the company until the annual
profits amount to 6 per cent. The consent of the gagt
India Company is, however, made sulject to the concur-
rence of the Government. The prospectus of the neW,
company will be found in our advertising columns, and
we trust that in a short time we shall have to publish
the consent and approbation of the Government to 'e
scheme which will effect as much to the cinsolidation
and permanency of our rule in India as any force which
we can send there, A purchase of the Atlttntio cable I°
proposed.

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