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London, England, 1857-02-12 00:00:00

THE SIMI LONDON, THURSDAY• EV,_FNING, FEBRUARY 12, 1857.

TDB FRAUDS O,V THE CITY BANKS.

James Anderson and James Townsend Saward,
who have been repeatedly examined upon charges
of extensive forgery upon many of the first bank-
ing houses of the City, were brought before the
Lord Mayor for final examination.
Mr. Muliens, solicitor to the Committee of
Bankers for Protection from Forgeries and Frauds,
again attended for the prosecution. Mr. Giffard
appeared for Saward ; Anderson was not repre-
sented by a legal adviser.
Mr. Goodman, the chief clerk, proceeded to read
the voluminous depositions of nearly 60 witnesses,
which consumed nearly the whole of the day, at
the conclusion of which Atwell, one of the appro-
vers, and who has recently been sentenced to
transportation for life upon a charge of forgery,
was called into the witness-box, and upon cross-
examination by Mr, Giffard said—Previous to my
present sentence of transportation for life I was in
business in Booth-street, Spitalfields. That was
about three years ago. I never forged in my life.
I was in the "public line" in Booth-street ; that is
I was a licensed victualler.
Mr. Giffard—ln your examination in chief you
use the word "business." To what business did
I you allude ?
Witness—To forge and get money. Saward was
to forge ;he was a professor of forgery. The word
" business" meant forging.
Mr. Giffard—When did you first begin the busi-
ness of forging ?—I never began it all, not ray own
self.
Mr. Giffard—You mean that you never traced
the forged instrument with your own
pen ?—No.
Mr. Giffard—You are now under sentence of
transportation for life, are you not ?—Yes.
Mr. Giffard—Were you innocent or guilty cf the
crime laid to your charge ?
Witness—l was innocent of the charge brought
against me. I was charged with forging and ut-
tering.

Mr. Giffard—. You were not guilty of either
charge ?
Witness-4 was guilty as being an accessory.
Mr. Giffard—Do you remember Markham being
tried ?
Witness—Yes.
Mr. Giffard—You knew that he was innocent,
did you not ?
Witness.—Yes, I did. (Sensation.)
Mr. Giffard—Was he tried with a brother of
yours ?
Witness—Yes he was.
Mr. Giffard—You knew that your brother was
guilty.
Witness—Yes, I knew my brother was guilty.
Mr. Giffard—When did you take to dishonesty
as a means of livelihood ?
Witness-1 don't know that I have taken to that
at all?
Mr. Giffard—Were you ever committed upon
any other charge than that one for which you are
now undegoing a sentence of transportation for
life ?
Witnesa—Yes' that was about three years back ;
since I came out of business.
Mr. Giffard—Was that the first criminal offence
of which you had been guilty ?
Witness—Oh, I don't know about that. It was
the first time I was found out. "No catchy,sno
havy." (Laughter.)
Examination continued—l was for a time in the
fur trade. I first met Hardwicke in Farringdon-
market about seven or eight months back. I did
not know that Hardwicke was going to make dis-
closures to the Bank authorities till I was spoken
to upon the subject by Mr. Mullens. I went by
the name of Hawkes when I was a publican. • I
have known Hardwicke pass by 'the name of Ralph
in the country. In London he passed (is Thomas
Hardwicke, and also as Thomas Salt- Hardwicke.
Re-examined by Mr. Mullens—l webt by the
name of Atwood at Yarmouth. Wheii I employed
Mr. Turner, the solicitor, I used the name. of
Hunter. Mr. Lewis was my attorney at my *trial,
and I first communicated to him the transactions of
which I have given evidence. You (Mr. Mullens)
and Mr. Lewis afterwards called, to see me. I
never had anything to do with forged cheques be-
fore I became acquainted with Saward.
William Salt Hardwicke, who was convicted with
Atwell, and who is also under sentence of transpor-
tation for life, was then called into the box and
cross-examined.
Mr. Giffard—ls William Salt Hardwicke the
only name by which you have gone ?
Witness—To the best of my knowledge at the
present time it is. My position has been such, as
you must be aware, that I have been obliged to
change my name. I have gone by the name of
William Salt. I was married in that name.
Mr. Giffard—Did you ever go by the name of
Pariah?
Witness—Never.
Mr. Giffard—ls this the first time that you have
turned Queen's evidence '1
Witness—Yes. I never transported a man nor
was the cause of his being transported ; but if you
look at this list you will find the names of 11
men who have been transported by your client,.
Mr. Sa ward.
The witness handed a paper to the learned coun-
sel of which the following is a copy :
" James Allen, life ; John Douglas, 20 years ; Henry
Bradbury, 21 years; Thomas Ford, 1 year ; William
Wilkinson, 10 years ; Nash, 10 years ; Agar, life ;
William Hardwicke, life ; Henry Atwell, life ; J.
Anderson, for trial ; Markham, 4 years (the last man
innocent)."
Mr. Giffard—Do you know Mr. Thomas Coeper ?
Witness—l do not.
[Mr. Cooper was a witness who described himlelg
as a retired tradesman with no settled place of
abode, and who said he was at the King's Arms
public-house, in Bishopegate churchyard, on a cer-
tain dayjin June last, when he saw Hardwicke
there ; and he added that he had known Saw .rd
years ago as a " man about town." When Mr.
Cooper was called to-day be did not answer.]
Mr. Giffard—Did not M- 'Co,
you upon the subject of
on the day when be said
Witness--I recollect a
in an adjoining room for
me, but I did not know his
what I had for dinner at
told him it was all right.
appeared to me when 'he .
of intoxication. He certainl
icg ; he was talking very
IMr. Gitfard—You say you never_ went b;
name of Parish ?—No; I should consider that
beggarly a name to go by. (Laughter.)
, Mr. Giffard—Now,• tell me the names by whig
you have gone.—l have already answered tfal
question.
Mr. Giffard—Answer it again.—William rat
Hardwicke.
Mr. Giffard—Any other ?—I do not recollect.
Mr. Giffard—Will you swear that ?
Witness--I now recollect that I have passed in
the name of Jenkins. I saved a girl's life at Hull,
and on that occasion gave the name of Jenkins.
The girl fell into the Humber, and I saved her from
drowning.
Mr. Giffard—Now, was it as Jenkins ar as Hard-
wke that you were under a charge of burglary at
Brecon ?—No, it, was Salt. ,
Mr. Giffard—.ln what name were you trans
ported at Plymouth ?

Witness—William Salt, alias Hardwicke. When
I was ordered to be transported and made my
escape from Brecon "Gaol, Saward was perfectly
aware that I was_ innocent, although I suffered
for it.
Savrard—l didn't know you at that time.
Witness—Yes you did. I had nothing to do
with the burglary which I was charged withlai-ing
committed. The stolen property was founi on
my premises. I went down there by Saward's
advice.

Mr. Giffard—Then, of that offence of which 'you
were found guilty you were innocent ?
Witne=s—l went down by the advice of Saward
and a man named Alexander Fraser, to see that a
person named Walter White had proper profes-
sional assistance. to defend him upon a charge 6f
burglary. White was tried and acquitted. On
our road how he stopped at a tree, from a hole in
which he took the produce of the burglary which
he had been tried for. The property consisted of
watches and silver plate. He wished to borrow
10/. of me upon the produce of the burglary, 'but
I declined to let him have it. He begged hard of
me to show him some place in which he conld
deposit the property. Ile said he did not like to
take it to a strange place, and after some persua-
sion I allowed him to 'put it into an iron safe in a
warehouse of which I held possession. On the
following morning, upon his attempting to dispose
of a portion of it, be was followed to my ware-
house, where the remainder of it was found. I was
thereupon taken into custody and placed in Brecon
Gaol, from which I escaped.
Mr. Giffard—Were you innocent of the charge
upon which you were apprehended at Plymouth,
and for which you were transported
Witness—l was. I was not in England when
the offence was committed for which I was .sent
abroad.
7,71/1-r.Tl3iffiiikti-e-.-Did yell not go to Saward in 1844
-rand 'ask him a ciliestion about the title to some
,land that you - had. in Australia ?—I did, and *he
drew out aeasrfor the opinion of counsel.
Oross-examination continued.—lt was alwayli'
Part of my scheme to represent myself as a respeetq'
)abli, man. did represent myself as a eckfti,li
trader, and-I
-was- one. I had land in Australia.
Mr. Burp. was the counsel whose opinion was ola-ttined llyiSatkard. That was not the first *cc's-

sion upon which Saward and I had met. I was
not in England when Markham was tried. When
I heard that he had been innocently convicted, An-
derson, Saward, Atwell, a man named Thomas ,
Smith, and myself, met and subscribed a sovereign
each for his wife. The 5/. was given to Atwell to
leave for her at a public-house, the landlord of
which has since told me that he gave her the mo-
ney. I reasoned with Anderson for .not trying to
get Markham acquitted, upon which Saward said
that " that wouldn't do, as he (Anderson) might
draw himself into it." (Sensation.) I knew Ed-
ward Agar (the approver in the late bullion rob-
bery case) through Saward, with whom I first be-
came acquainted about 25 or 26 years ago. fie was
eamp
p,
etahrebpeetntemr an . I do not
than '
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Saward was known for years after I first became
acquainted with him to be carrying skeleton keys
through the city for a gang of burglars when they
wanted them for a night. I cannot say that I cor-
rupted Saward. (Laughter.) I was in England
when Agar was tried. Saward told me that he was
in the habit of selling gold for Agar.
Re-examined by Mr. Mullens—l arrived in Eng-
land on the 26th of May, 1856. From 1853 or
1854 to that time I was in the colonies. Saward
had known me several years previous to my being
confined in Brecon Gaol. Saward introduced me
to Agar, to whom I sold a crape shawl which I had
brought with me from the colonies. Saward told
me I must trust Agar for the amount oflthe shawl,
and I did so. In 1844 I met Alexande Frazer at
Saward's chambers, 4 Hare-court, Temple.
This closed the evidence for the prosecution.
The Lord Mayor, after giving the prisoners the
usual caution, asked them whether they had any-
thin°, to say in answer to the charge
Anderson—No.
Saward—l am not guilty of the charge.
The prisoners were then fully committed for
trial.

THE DOUBLE MURDER IN WALWORTH.

Yesterday Thomas Fuller Bacon and Martha Bacon,
his wife, were brought up from Horsemonger-lane Gaol
for further examination before Mr. Elliott, charged with
the wilful murder of their two infant children.
Long before the time appointed for the examination
the court became Inconveniently crowded, and, judging
from the anxiety evinced by a number of persons whom
the court would not hold to bear the proceedings, the
case at each examination seems to increase in interest.
It was the opinion of some that Mr. Alfred Taylor, the
eminent professor of chemistry at Guy's Hospital, would
have been present to give evidence respecting the analy-
sis of the contents of the body of Mrs. Bacon, sen. ; but
this was a mistake, as he has not yet, nor will he for some
days have concluded his task. When the prisoner Bacon
was brought to the court by the prison van he, on being
removed to the cell, appeared much more cheerful than
on any previous day, and the gaoler, observing him in
such geed spirit', asked him if he was aware that the
body of his mother had been exhumed and examined,
and he replied in the affirmative, adding that he was
quite well aware of it. Cook, the gaoler, also asked him
if he was aware that his wife had confessed that she, by
his desire, had put arsenic into the broth taken by the
old woman, and that he (Bacon) had subsequently put
some arsenic into her medicine ? His reply to this was
that he knew nothing about it, and he should act under
the advice of his solicitor. He then said he was very
hungry, and requested Cook to order him a beefsteak, as
he wished to have something before his examination.
The steak was ordered at a neighbouring tavern, and
the prisoner ate about three-quarters of a pound, with a
slice of bread and a pint of beer, with the keenest appe-
tite.
The whole of the night-charges having been disposed
of, and solicitors and witnesses being in attendance,
tf
the priso ers were taken into court at a quarter to two
o'clock. Bacon was the first to enter the dock. His
manner on this (occasion was quite different from and
formed a perfect contrast to that which he exhibited at
his former examinations. He entered the dock with a
firm step, and on geting to the upper end he turned
round and faced the gaze of every one in the court. In
fact his appearance was that of a person who was deter-
mined to brazen it out. Mrs. Bacon appears improving
in health ; she was accomreodated with a seat at the
solicitors' table, with her back to the dock, so that her
husband, though be made several efforts, could not get
a sight of her.
Mr. Woodward, as on the former examinations, at-
tended for Bacon, and Mr. Crouch, from the office of
Messrs. Wright and Bonner, solicitors, London-street,
City, appeared on.bebalf of Mrs. Bacon.
The first witness called was Mr. W. Harris, the sur-
geon to Herder:longer-lane Gaol, who said—l recollect
the female prisoner Mrs. Bacon being brought to Horse-
monger-lane, and on that occasion the matron cslled my
attention to some marks on her throat, which appeared
to have been occasioned by a string having been drawn
tightly round it. I should say it was a string, and not
a rope. There were also some superficial wounds on the
throat, but the prisoner said nothing to me about how
they had been occasioned. I have watched her care-
fully, and I have come to the opinion that she is a per-
son of unsound mind. She has that appearance—has a
vacant look—won't look at you—and says nothing, but
is sullen and quiet.
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mark was very perceptible at the back part of the neck,
so that the cord must have been tied round very tight,
and the cord itself must have been very sharp, something
resembling whipcord.
Mr. Elbott—Doyou think that such a mark may have
been occasioned by her dress I
. Witness—l think not, for it was too high up and too
straight or circular.
A piece of cord, between whipcord and sashline, which
was found at the late residence of the prisoners, was
here produced, and Mr. Harris said it was such a cord as
was likely to produce the mark he had described.
Mr. Elliett—Yeu say that the mark was above the
wounds on the front of the throat. Is it your opinion
that a cord might have been tied or drawn closely round
so as to have caused that mark without its being stained
or marked with blood ?
Witness—lt is nay opinion that it might have been
tied round and Lave no marks of blood.
Cross-examined by Mr. Crouch—The cord produced
would have caused the marks I have described. It did not
require to be tied very tight to produce the mark ; fore
if see-sawed when held tolerably tight, ie_would produce
a similar mark as if tied very tight. She could herself
have caused sueh.a mark, but it was not the mark of a
person wee bed been hanging. I ask her daily how she is,
and twin what I have seen of herl believe her to be of
unsotied mind i and I believe also the cute on her
'throat were inflicted by herself, but they may have been
done by anybody ebe. The cuts were so slight and super-
ficial that any other person inflicting. them must have
been very careful not to kill her; and I think that if any-
irOdy else had done it it must have been by connivance;
Mt. Crouch -Now, suppose it had been the object of
the person-inflicting these cuts to deceive the police„and
lead them to the supposition that Mrs. Bacon had in-
flicted, the -injuries herself, were not the wounds just
such wounds as would have been inflicted !
Witness—Welt, they are: They are not such wounds .
as were likely to have been inflicted by a person intend-
%g to till her. , _
AttMr. Elliott-There is oncelluestion which I omitted.
"What quantity of blood do you think, Mrs. Bacon lost
at the time of receiving these injuries ?
Witness—l should think the quantity lost must have
been but small. The matron at the gaol showed me her
chemise, and there was not much blood there. '. .
Henry Woods was next called—He said he lived 'in
High-street, Reigate, and was in the employment of Mr.
Mailedge, an ironmonger there. On the Monday morn-
ing after-Christmas-day lie saw the male prisoner at the
railway station at Reigatrafterhe got out of the feesip,
and soon after he saw him mites master's shop. He no-
ticed something very particular in his manner, and he
did not seem to know what he was doing. At about
.haff-paet 12 he came into the :sive when he (witnessy
yditecoa_stvarniFer;
hiked him what o'clock it was, and he then saw him take
a watch from hie tkickeisaby which-he tolcrhim the timer
eeParsi"ellervidenblatl
For five miuutektetgroned,tainande the
pc mind. In the evening witness point
out a shop to prisonereeisiedd saw him at the Bell public-ho "•.:
where he could get a wa
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,fed, and he then asked hies to sit dowel
and el
brandy and water, but he refused as he
h havee
so
did not like his manner or appearance. The prisoner!
ethen wore a pair of fustian trousers and an apron.
Sieve Perry, another man in the service of Mr.
Male saki the prisoner was in such a state of mind
on the Oncif.y that he could not do a bit of work.
He used to tlfrow his tools about, and stand as if study-
ing for a wh4le quarter of an hour. He did not do any
work at all, but merely looked at it, and spent his time
in walking between his master's shop and the job where
they were at work.
Chas. May, another workman who was employed with
the prisoner on the Tuesday, said be did little or no work
on that day, and did not seem to know what he was about.
The next witness, Wm. Payne, of 15, Anglesea street,
Stepney, engineer, gave most important testimony. He
isaid—leacon is my wife's nephew. On the Sunday even-
ing after Christmas he came to me, to my wife's bro-
ther's, between 8 and 9 o'clock, but did not stop long ;
my wife and he went off to see my daughter. I did not
then notice that there was anything the matter with his
finger, nor observe that it was tied up. I did not
know that there was anything the matter with his
finger till I saw it in the newspaper, and this induced
me to look at it. I examined it, and told him
I thought it had been done sharpening the knife
on a steel. I thcught so by the cut, as it was right
across the left hand forefinger, between the
first and second joints ; be said he did not cut it that
t
way ; that he did it cutting a bit of meat at dinner ;hat his knives were new, and did not want sharpening.
[lt may here be marked as a strange and suspicious co-
incidence that Dr. Bushell, on examining one of the
knives found in the prisoner's room on the morning on
which the murder was discovered, expressed his opinionl
that it had all the appearance of having been recenty
to be deeply
stained with blood, and was the instrument with which,
child
ren,B
sharpened on a steel, and this knife, when subsequently
examined by a -microscope, was found
according to his wife's oonfessioa, he cut his Id
talked to the prisoner -a good ,deal about t affair,.
his wife did not do it
reason to
throats.] Mr. Payne further proceeded to say—hellee
because be said fie was sure ,
that he did not do it • and that he had every
believe that somebod had unlocked the door, gone in,
and had done all that had been done.
I asked him
if he bad left the key in the door when
hewent
out, and he said he bad not, that he took it out
y
and hung it up, as was his common practice. I told him
.that it lay between him and his wife, for that no one
would have gone is and done such a thing without taking
the money that was there, and he said nothing to that ; 1
but two or three days after he told me he bad been robbed
of a greatcoat and other clothes, and I asked him about
the greatcoat. He said it was a rough greatcoat, and as I
bad never seen hire with such a coat I asked him who
made it. He hesitated and made no answer, and I then 1
said, "Did your tailor make it? Because if he did the I
police will find it out." He hesitated, and then said he
took it for a debt. I asked hint of whom, and he again i I
hesitated, and said he could not tell me, but I considered
his statement to be fa se, He also said he had lost a watch,
but I never knew of his baying but one watch, and that
he brought back with him from Reigate. The watch flow
produced by Sergt, Broad is that watch, and its number
is 32,798. I never saw the other watch, No. 13,663, nowin the hands of the police, in his possession until after be
In
came back from Stamford a week after the murder.
the
trying to wind it:up at his house the prisoner broke
glees,. but, with the excep
tion of that injury, it eeentel '
to be perfect. I had not seen the watch 32,798, but
subsequently saw tie one 13,663, with the second-hand
off, and the prisoner then said the police bad caused tlto
injury done to it ; but at that time the face was not da-
maged. I told him when ho advertised for the watch
that he was a great fool for doing so,
sure to be picked up and brought that it woforward, when
he
would have 51, to ray for it, when he said be wished
shonld. When the prisoner came the night before the
murder he seemed very much confused. Mrs. Bacon sat
' alongside me, and I said to her "1 wonder how 3_o
u
'can leave those Hula children." And in a little time she.the
he
wouldreplied, " Uncle, you have no cause to fret abodu.
children ; they.areisappee" That was all she said.
Mr. Elliott—Wien was this ?
after Christmas,
just two days before the murder was discovered.
Mr. Elliott- Then they had not the children with
them when they called on that night ?
Witness—No sir, and that was the reason I spoke
about their leaving them. On the Wednesday
morning
Sunday
Witness—On the night of the Sund

after the murder, when Bacon came to my houQe, he said
he was sure his wife did not do it ; and when he after-
wards told me he had been robbed, I told him I believed
it to be false, but said, " If they find the things they
will put you on your ogl)." He replied, " Hold your
tongue; I'll not swear to anything, and I'll not speak."
The last time I spoke to him I said, "Suppose your wife
turns round to-morrow and says you have dose it ?" He
looked very hard at me, and then said, " My wife never
did deceive me yet;" and I said "You cannot tell that."

Mrs. Payne, wife of the last witness, was called, and
her testimony established the fact that the watch ,hich
the prisoner had alleged to have been stolen from his
house, with the other things, was in his possession after
the discovery of the murder, and was the some that
had bees picked up by a child not far from the scene of
the murder a week after the death of the children.
Mrs. Harriet Munro, the daughter of the last witness,
was called, and deposed to having seen the woman who
had taken the ashes from under the fireplace at the house
where the murder was committed throw a piece of cord
in the fire.

Inspector Young informed the magistrate that these
were all the witnesses he had in attendance, and the
professional gentlemen engaged declining to offer any
observations to the Bench,

Mr. Elliott remanded the priEonera to a future day,

MIDDLESEX SESSION.y.

(Before Mr. Pashley, Q.C., Assistant Judge.)
Henry Kent, a I;glaterman, surrendered in court to
take his trial on a cbarge of having stolen 180 pounds
of Cavendish tobacco, the property of J. W. Dean, his
master, and John Pearson, dealer, v, as indicted for felo-
niously receiving the same, knowing it to have been
at, den.

s p Metcalfeearso
Pearson
appeared t forwa
s thenot prosecution;defended.
On Mr. lorry
defended
the 26th of December, the prosecutor, a master
lighterman, at 12, Great Water-lane, gave the prisoner
Kent an order for the delivery to him of 23 boxes of
Cavendi,ll tobacco from the London Docks, with in-
structions to take them forthwith to a Liverpool steamer
called the Laurie, then lying in the river, at such a dis-
tance from the docks as would have enabled him to have
reached her in about half an hour after be had received
the boxes. Redid not, however, go to the steamer until
the following morning, alleging as the reason that he
had lost the tide on the preceding day ; and when the
number of boxes shipped was compared with the order
one was missing. The officer of the steamer at once
called the prisoner's attention to that circumstance, when
he exclaimed that he was done for, and said the box
which was absent must have been stolen from his barge
while he was temporarily absent from it. Evidence was
given that before proceeding to the docks Kent solicited
a person named Connoway to join with him in a tobacco
job, to put three or four pounds in his pocket, but he
refused, saying he got his living honestly. I'he prisoner
signed the reoeipt for the boxes in the name of Johnson.
It was shown that the prisoner Pearson had been en-
deavouring to sell tobacco answering the description of
that stolen, and when be was taken some fragments of
Cavendish were found in his pockets, some on a knife,
and on an axe which he bad in his possession. A wit-
ness who gave important evidence when the case was be-
fore the magistrate was not now in attendance, baying
gone to Holland.
The jury found both prisoners guilty. Nothing was
known detrimental to Pearson's character, but Inspec-
tor Brydges, Thames Police, proved that Kent had been
p
for a loeg time associated with " river thieves" and con-
cerned in some extensive robberies.
Sentence deferred.
Henry Burrows, 50, Elizabeth Burrows, 27, and John
Henryert Brown,
Miles,ls,ivere indicted on Tuesday for having
stolen four silver tablespoons and other articles, the pro-
yof F Edward in his dwelling-place.
The prosecutor resides in Park-road, Dalston, and on
the 25th of January a basket of plate was missed from
one of his bedrooms. The same night Clark, 220 N,
and another constable named Cowen, went to a house,
No. 3, Devonshire-place, Shoreditch, where they found
the prisoners in a room, and upon information they had
received took them all three into custody. On looking
round the room the last-named officer noticed that one
of the flooring boards had been raised and not properly
fastened down, and on pulling it up he found a parcel
underneath, which contained some of the stolen silver
spoons, broken up. Burrows admitted that he and the
lad did the robbery, and said the woman knew nothing
about it. She lived with him as his wife.
A lad named William Crockett, said he lived with his
father, a jeweller, at No. 2, Seward-street, Goswell-
street. On the day of this robbery the prisoner Brown
came to him, and said he wanted to see him down at a
coffee-house, in St. John's-road, and accordingly he met
him there at 6 o'clock. He asked him then to sell some
spoons for him, which he agreed to do, and they went
to Mr. Reeves, a refiner, in Goswell-street, where wit-
ness was known, having been in the habit of going there
on errands for his father. Mr. Reeves melted the spoons
down into a bar and then weighed it. It came to 3Z. Os,
6d., at 4s. 9d. per ounce. Brown was
.waiting outside.
money was given to him, and witness was rewarded with
nWo teen.
hboeu
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wheret h e money,
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5-o. He admitted that he suspected something was
wrong in the matter. Some of the Ipoons were like
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broken when he received them from Brown, and he told
Mr. Reeves that he wanted them melted for his father.
He had been en such errands before.
Mr. Reeves deposed that the last witness brought him
some broken apoonsifeadLins he came from his father, and
be melted them as he requested. He had known the boy
and his father for years. When melted the spoons
weighed 12.15 dwt., and he gave Is. 1/d, per ounce,
which was a fair price.

The Assistant Judge said refiners should be very cau-
tious how they purchased broken•up spoons from boys,
41. c they would stand a good chance of being indicted ;
but in this case the refiner was acquainted with the boy
and his father, and bad done business for him, as a jewel-
ler, which of course led him not to suspect anything
wrong. ----:.
The defencemai thiS, that Brown meta stranger near
Bow. bridge, who asked him if he could sell some spoons.
Knowing Crockett, and that he used to go to Reeves',
-ke said he could, and went in search of him. The spoons
were sold, and t . arrows by accident, and he
(Brawn) asked him d the money until he met the
tilati at an appoints. ~ ce cluote by, as he was afraid of
'1 wing it. They sa • 'mail, and gave him the money.
then gave bins ' $ - pet to hold while he went down
e street for a mi, -;701 ut as he did not return, he
'Went to Burrows's; - .he lodged, and, finding more
spoons in the par -,,, ' •as afraid he might be taken up,
so he forced a boa
•_.l li 6 floor and concealed the par-
cel there, and ne:• arrows nor his wife knew any
thing about it. 10
i The jury found I
guilty.
The Assistant.Jui
Brown to four mont

'ptnan not guilty, and the others
' r ,
e
sentenced Burrows to 12 and
hard labour.

The policeman produced two bare of silver, and asked
the court what be was to do with them. One was ad-
mitted to be the produce of the spoons,. Mr. Reeves said
the other was not, but the weight of the two corres-
ponded to the weight of the missing articles.
Mr. Reeves said one only was the produce of Mr.
Mien property.
The Assistant Judge said be had better leave it where
it was, and the police bad better give them both to Mr.
Miles. If Mr. Reeves
_was dissatisfied he could bring
his action.

of six years old, who also was in a wretched c( onditton,
implored him to take them bothiway. He to-ok Terri
to the workhouse, where the girl bad since beeU. under
medical treatment.

A woman who had been employed in Walk( es house
as a nurse confirmed the beadle's evidence as to the ill-
treatment of the children.

The magistrate remanded the defendant fora week.
William Capsey, 22, was charged by his mother with
a series of systematic robberies, under distreshing cir-
cumstances.

The prosecutrix said ■he was 73 years of age, lived in
Ivy-lane, Hox'on, an'i since the death of her husband,
five years ago, had been reduced to most straitened
means. The prisoner, notwithstanding this, "till car-
ried on continual depredations in her little dwelling, and
since Sunday last he took away linen artichs of apparel
and bed furniture, to the amount of 100. ; also an um-
brella., which he had pawned for a few pence, the dupli
cats being found upon him.

Mr. D'Eyncourt--Does he do anything to as you?
Mother—No, sir, not a farthing do I have from him,
but he partakes of one shilling and a loaf that I have
from the parish. Why, he even stole five bread and
coal tickets that a charitable person gave me.
Mr. D'Eyncourt—This is very shocking ; instead of
being a comfort to and helping your poor parent yoi
rob her of the last article of comfort she has. What do
you say !

Prisoner—Nothing but this : if I had not got into bad
company, it would not have happened.
Mr. D'Eyncourt—l shall fine you 51., under the pawn-
brokers' act, and in default you will go for 3 calendar
months, with hard labour, to prison. His worship also
ordered the poor widow to be relieved with 10s, from the
poor-box.

WESTMINSTER.—James Cowen, of 3, Grey Coat-
place, Westminster, who describes himself as a "medi-
cal, political, and social reformer," keeping an establish-
ment called "John Bull's Cabin," was charged with un-
lawfully exhibiting to public view a paper on which was
written indecent words, to the annoyance of the inhabi-
tants and passengers.
A gentleman named Fonblanc, residing at 152, Cam-
bridge-street, Pimlico, said that, on passing the defers•
dant's premises he saw the offensive writing exhibited
on a board. Nothing could be more thoroughly dis-
gusting and obscene, and many of the.crowd of labour-
ing men who were around expressed the disgust they
felt.

Defendant, in the most illiterate style, cross-examined
the witness in order to show that he must possess a very
corrupt mind to understand the meaning of the filth ex-
hibited, and concluded by inquiring whether, if he saw a
brick in his way, he would not avoid it, which he an-
swered by observing tha,t it was the witness's duty, if he
did not like the thing, to say nothing about it.
The police produced a copy of the offensive placard,
and proved that gentlemen came to the station, and re
quested them to tear it down, in order to prevent its
demoralising influence. After notice, the defendant
erased the most obscene expression.
Defendant pretended that he did not know the mean-
ing of the worst expression and argued that filth was
not Alth if it could be found in "Johnson." He concluded
by observing that it had been written by his secretary,
and that if there was anything indecent in it, it was the
duty of people in general, and the police in particular, to
come and tell him of it.

Hr. Humphreys, an inspector of the B division, said
that he could not leave his duty at the station-house, but
immediately sent a sergeant to defendant. The latter,on
receipt of the magistrate's summons, begrimed it with
filth, and then added to it the miscellanies exhibited on
the board in front of his premises.
Mr. Paynter observed there could not be the slightest
doubt of the grossly indecent character of the placards,
and fined defendant 405., or in default one month's im-
prisonment, at the same time informing him.that if there
was any repetition of the offence he would send him fur
trial. •

The fine was paid.

MARLBOROUGH-STREET.—Cbarles Thorpe era,'
summoned before Mr. Beadon, by the police, for being
the occupier of a room in the house No. 124, Jernayn-
street, kept open for persons to resort to for the purpose
of betting upon horse races.
Mr. Lewis, of Ely-place, was for the defendant.
John Ernsting, the same witness who gave evidence in
the other cases, was put into the witness box. He proved
that on the 20th January he went to 124, Jermyn-street,
and made a bet with the defendant. Had made bets with
the defendant before. He asked the defendant if he
would give him a point more against a horse marked on
the list on the board banging in the shop, and the de-
fendant agreed to do so. The bet was 6 to 1 against
the Gipsy King for the Oundle Handicap Stakes.
After the bet was made and the money paid, the de-
fendant gave him a card of the bet and entered the
transaction in his book.
Crass-examined—The person with whom he made the
bet wrote the ticket in his presence. The ticket he now
produced. Had seen the defendant write before, and
would swear that the ticket -was 'in the defendant's
handwriting. Had made only two bets within the last
two years. Had occasioually pledged articles for hiS
support.. Was giving evidence on his own account
only against betting-hOuses, and had nothing what-
ever to do with the police, except giving them informa-
tion. Had received nothing for his trouble, nor any promise of anything. The proceedings were' only for
the public good, and bemuse' he had lost money atbetr-
ting, and had been waiting for an opportunity to servg,
parties out who had got his money, and whO would pay bets when they lost.
Inspector Webb, C division, proved that he went in
company with Superintendent O'Brien, to No. 124,
Jermyn-street, and there found six persons in the shop
looking at a betting board placed against the wail, with
betting cards containing the odds against different horses
for races to come off. Also found betting books ; and
in a portfolio, on a piece of paper, the particulars of the
bet on Gipsy King with Ernsting were written. Also,
in a desk a quantity of betting cards, with printed names
of races in prospect; and several ledgers and day-books
of bets made with various persons. In one of the books
the name of Southcombe appeared several times as having
made bets. This persOn wouldl give evidence in thin
case. Another better; named. Dodson, had also been
summoned, but had, sent a medical certificate to say he
was too unwell to attend. • -
John Soutbcotnbe, 131, Jernayn-street, was called to
prove that he was the person, entered in one of the de-
fendant's books ashaving made bets at the house, 124,
Jermyn-street, with the defendant.
Mr. Lewis suggested that the witness should be can.
tioned about answering questions, by which be might
subject himself to a penalty.
Mr. Beadon referred to 8 and 9 Vic. e. 100, and
showed that it was competent for persons to be witne:s'i 8
in procuring a conviction against houses where unlawful
games were carried on ,withorit being subject to any
chonsequproceediences, although they might have taken part in
te ngs.
Mr. Beadon then asked the witness if he would say
whether he had, made a bet is the house
The witness hesitated.about giving
an answer.
Mr. Beadon reminded him that by the 2 and 3 Vi
o. 43, it a witness refused to answer a question of
ttit:
sort he was liable to au iMprisonment of 14 days.
The witness thought it hard that a tradesman like
hem
might crimself should
inate be called
himsef give evidence by which
• Mr. Beadon said be was empowered to give a certifi-
cate which would exonerate
th
quences, or to send him to 'prisonefowr ifourteen r odmay sCoi nf
refused to give evidenCe. ho
The witness, after a good deal of hesitation, admitted,
first, that be bad been to Mr. Thorpe's
and talked about
betting, that he might have made a bet tb the might
have made several bets, but he ,had not,
made a bet on
the Chester Cup.
The defendant's ledger was produced and shown to the
Cueess, where an entry appeared of a bet on the Chester

The witness said he might have made the bet, but Le
could not swear whether he made the bet in his own
house or in Thorpe's house.
Mr. Lewis objected to the books being received as
evidence, unless in the handwriting of the defendant.
Mr. Beadon replied that the book he showed
, 7itness
was a book with the words " Thorpe's Book" onit,
found in Thorpe's bluse.
Witness was again asked if he had made a bet on the
Chester. Cup at Thorpe's ?
Witness said there were several persons of the name
of Southcornbe, and he could not say for certain that the
entry on the book referred to the entry he had made.
Mr. Beadon said he should decline to ask the witness
any further questions.
Mr. Scott, collector, proved that he had collected the
rates of 124, Jermyn-strest, for the last six years, from
the defendant.
obj Mr. Lewis then proceeded to take several technical
ections to the evidence, and appealed to the benctt
to be guided in its decision by any outcry against betting-
houses, or by a desire to acquire popularity, but to decide
on the merits of the evidence only.
Mr. Beadon agreed that he had to confine his attention
to what took place on the 20th January, and that he
ought to look to the value of the evidence that had been
laid before him, leaving out the evidence Of Southc9mhe,
who would have stood in a better position had he given
his evidence in a more straightfor ward and a more un-
reserved manner. With respect to occupation, that had
been sufficiently proved by the evidence of the tax col-
lector. Then, with reference to the witness Ernsting,
whatever might be his antecedents or motives, the ques-
tion for him to decide was this, was Ern-ting's evidence
consistent, probable, and corroborated. On these points
the evidence of the witness was sustained and confirmed,
and taking all the circumstances brought out in evi-
dence, he could come to no other conclusion than that
Thorpe was the occupier of the room, and that it
Theopen on the day in question for betting purposes.
we.
vcalosueswiyascoannvailcotged ot:s to that of Ray, who had been
and he should therefore inflict a simi-
lar fine, 501., or four months' imprisonment.
Mr. Lewis was understood to bay he
against the conviction. should appeal

CONFERENCE AT THE COLLEGE OF PHYSICIANS.—A
conference was held at the C.ollege of Physicians, Pad-
mall, on Monday, of representatives from the medical
colleges of England, Ireland, and Scotland, with tt e
view of determining upon the course which they ought
to adopt in respect of the anticipated "medical reform "
bill. ft is understood that the conference was favour. able to the view recently adopted by the British' Medi-
cal Association, to the effect that a portion of the
"medical conned" should be nominated by Government,
but the " third part," as proposed by the association's
committee, was considered too much. The select coin_
mittee of last year recommended that the whole of the
council should be appointed by Government,and be direQtl
responsible to Parliament through its chief, the President
of the Board Health.