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LONDON; THURSDAY EVENING, JULY 18,1 1851

This was the petition of Thomas Barnes, Earl of Dun.
donald, praying her Majesty to admit his succession to the
dignities of Earl of Dundonald and Lord Cochrane, of Faw-
ley and Ochiltrie, in the peerage of Scotland.
Mr. Fleming appeared for the petitioner, and the Attor-
ney-General and the Lord-Advocate watched the case on
behalf of the Crown.
On the case being called on their Lordships intimated a
desire that Mr. Fleming should in the first place address
them upon the question whether they could properly take
the petition into consideration at all. The petitioner merely
sought that they should pass certain evidence establishing
his right to the title, without demanding the title, and with-
out there being any opposition to his assumption of it. He
came before them as Earl Dundonald, and enjoying the
rights and privileges of an earl, and no person disputed his
right. Under these circumstances, could the house take the
matter into consideration ?
Mr. FLEMING said that, as her Majesty had sent the
petition down to their lordships for them to report on, they
must hear the evidence in support of it. He contended that
there had been many cases in which their lordships had in•
(mired simply whether the petitioner was the eldest legiti-
mate son of his father where there was no claim either for
a ..Nerit of summons or to vote at the election of representa •
case, peers, The learned counsel cited " Lord Gardiner's
Waldegrave's case," "Earl Ferrers' case,"
and ;: rd
"Lord Biitrztathreore's case" in support of his argument.
The ATTO EY-GENEILAL and the LORD-ADVOCATE, in
answer to their Lordships, stated that they should not op-
pose the petition.
Lord REDESDALE remarked that the petitioner came be-
fore the house as Earl D
to confirm his title. nndonald, and yet he prayed them
Mr. FLEMING said in the Taal% and D uubovne peerage
claims that course had been adopted.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said the house u
reasons and circumstances under which the --
hearllld the
Petition was laid
before her Majesty.
Mr. FLEMING said his object was to establish that Lord
Dundonald was the eldest legitimate son of the late Earl.
The marriage of his father and mother was solemnised in
Scotland, where marriages were not registered, and Lady
Dundonald, who was still living, was thee nly witness who
could prove the fact that such marriaghad taken place.
If her evidence were not taken at once, as she was of great
age and in ill health, after her death Lord Dundonald might
be unable to prove his legitimacy.
Their LORDSHIPS having consented to hear the pe4i-
tioner's evidence,
Sir Charles Pocock was called, and he stated that Lady
Dundonald, who was at Boulogne, was too ill to come over
to give evidence.
Their LORDSHIPS then appointed Mr. Macqueen, Q.C.,
and the English Consul at Boulogne as commissioners to
take her evidence.

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The members of this corps last evening enteY-
tained General Lord Clyde, G.C.8., their honorary'
colonel, at a regimental dinner in St. James's-hall.
The chair was taken by Lieut.-Col. Lord Elcho,
M.P. and among those who occupied the seats at
the head table were General Lord Clyde, the
ir MS ar-1
quis of Breadalbane, the Marquis of Abercorn,
R. Murchison, Lord' Truro, Lord Valletort, M.P.
Hon. Col: Erskine, Lord Radstock, the Master of
Lovat, the Marquis of Tullibardine, Lord Saltoun,
the Hon, H. Fraser, Sir A. Comyn, Col. M'Murdo,
Colonel Lindsay, the Hon. G. Waldegrave, the
Macleod of Macleod, Sir J. Shelley, Sir J. Kirk-
land, Major Wilkinson, Major Hughes, Capt. Ross,
and Major Anson, &c. About 250 sat down to
dinner.
A guard of honour, furnished by the corps, re-
ceived the most distinguished arrivals with military
honours, and the guests were afterwards marshalled
to their seats in Highland fashion, the piper, a
favourable specimen of his class, heading the pro-
cession, and at intervals during the feast he reap-
peared and circled the board, to the manifest grati-
fication of the company, although his strains sounded
somewhat uncouth to southern ears. Lord Clyde,
in common with the majority of those present, wore
the " hodden gray" of the London Scottish, but
this prevailing shade was relieved at interval
service,s not
only by the glowing scarlet of the regular
but by the varying uniforms of many North British
regiments which were creditably represented in the
Wimbledon rifle contest.
After the usual loyal toasts had been given and
acknowledged with the usual cordiality,
The CHAIRMAN gave the combined toast of " the
Army, the Navy, and the Volunteers." Of the two
former services he spoke in terms of the highest
eulogium, but of the latter, he said that in presence
of Colonel M‘Murdo, the able and popular head of
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the Volunteer force, he felt like a boy under the
eyeThofe hiso preceptor.
knowledged the compliment paid to his own branch
of the service,
Colonel M`Munßo responded on behalf of the
Volunteers. He said he had if anything under-
stated on all occasions the amount of the Volunteer
force. It would, therefore, be satisfactory to gen-
tlemen to know that at the present moment the
number actually under arms was nearer to 170,000
than 150,000, the number shown by the official re-
turns in August last. It was no small satisfaction
to him as a Scotchmen (cheers) to find that Scot-
land, in proportion to its population, had given the
largest contribution to the national force, and that
whereas Englishmen had volunteered at the rate
of one in 46 of the population capable of bearing
arms, Scotland had contributed at the rate of one
in 26. (Hear, hear.) He had seen with pride the
calm and determined advance of the London Scottish
at Wimbledon, and, with a view of calling out the
latent fire which he detected in their ranks, he had
ordered the band to play the particular air, which
in its effects showed him that the same spirit
existed in their corps that enabled his
noble and gallant friend to oppose " the thin
red line " at Balaklava to the onset of
the Russian cavalry. :(Enthusiastic cheering,
the whole company simultaneously rising from
their seats.) The chairman had referred to the
spirit of obedience characteristic of Scotch soldiers.
In the Crimea some soldiers of the 42d Regiment,
who were in a pet with their colonel for not
allowing them to :receive the money, which was
more advantageously sent home to their families,
complained of " that dour fellow Cameron," al-
though at the same time they would cheerfully
have died for him. He trusted that, whatever
temporary discontent the London Scottish might at
any time feel with their officers, they would
be willing, as he had no doubt would be the case, to
go anywhere and do anything under the leadership
of that " dour fellow" Elcho. (Cheers.)
The CHAIRMAN then gave " The Houses of
Parliament," coupling with the toast the names of
the Marquis of Breadalbane and Lord Valle-
tort, M.P.
The next toast was " The Health of General
Lord Clyde," in proposing which the CHAIRMAN
said that it would be superfluous in him to descant
upon services extending over a period of half a
century. Some days since he had called upon Lord
Clyde, and found him suffering under a fever,which
he attributed to recent services in India, but to his
surprise he was informed that he was "an old
friend which had stuck to him since the Walcheren
campaign." The career which had begun in dis-
aster, in 1809, had since been carried on with dis-
i tinction in all parts of the world—in Spain, in
America, in Demerara, in the Crimea, in China,
twice in India, and had culminated at the relief of
Lucknow and in the pacification of our empire in
India. (Cheers.) Lord Clyde, as he had often
heard him say, was essentially a soldier of fortune,
and owed his high position, not to interest or ad-
ventitious circumstances, but to his own right arm
and to his pluck, energy, and perseverance. In
the position to which he had raised himself—so
justly a matter of pride to Scotchmen—he had
chosen for his motto " Be mindful," and for his
supporters two British soldiers, which had been in-
strumental in raising him to his present pitch of
fame. The gallant General had been chosen to
save our Indian empire when it was trembling in
the balance, and did any one doubt that if danger
should threaten nearer home—which might God
grant would never happen—Lord Clyde would
again be sent for ? (Loud cheers.) It was
often matter of reproach to the Scotch,
equally with the Irish, that they claimed
every distinguished man as belonging to their
country; for instance, that they held Sangkelinsin
to be no other than Sam Collins, that Garibaldi was
but a transposition of Baldy Darrow—(laughter)—
and that Schamyl was merely another pronuncia-
tion of Campbell. (Renewed laughter.) Whatever
differences of opinion might exist on these points,
no one could deny to Scotchmen the right to claim,
and to be proud of, Colin Campbell, the Commander-
in-Chief in India—(cheers) ; and as a proof of the
enthusiasm whieh his name excited might be men-
tioned the circumstance of some Scottish fishermen
off the 'Western Hebrides, in the neighbourhood of
St. Kilda, who were overheard singing something
which, on inquiry, proved to be a Gallic epic in
honour of Lord Clyde.
The toast was drunk with much enthusiasm, and
with the manifestation of respect peculiarly known
as " Highland honours."
Lord CLYDE said he felt quite overpowered by
the kindness which the company had shown to their
humble countryman, a simple soldier, whose great
gratification it had been on returning to this coun-
try to witness the spontaneous and loyal effort in
which the people of Great Britain, and particularly
the natives of Scotland, had united for the defence
of the country. Accustomed as he was to witness
the proficiency attained by soldiers practised daily
under trained instructors, he had been surprised
to find the progress made by Volunteers who could
only spare leisure moments from their ordinary
avocations. In conversation with the Duke of
Cambridge two or three days since, he had
learned with satisfaction the efficiency displayed
by the different corps at Wimbledon, and he at-
tached especial importance to their great self-pos-
session and habit of obedience, as well as to the ab-
sence of noise with which their movements were
eaecuted. He knew by long experience that these
were points which were only arrived at by long
and close • •
attention to drill, and he therefore
honoured the m
would add the ore hihly the application, and he
exhibited. Reh devotion, which the Volunteers had
knew how valuable young been young himself and he
which they gave up .Louaeng men thought the time
be sure, that they would not
; but of this they might
Placed at any disadvantagen.ot in consequence be
in the regards of their
sweethearts. (Laughter and cheers.) Next to love
of country, love of corps was the
moat powerful im-
pulse, He had known wonderful results to follow
from that feeling; he had taken advantage of it, and
he had known it to elicit acts of indomitable cour-
rage, which to appreciate properly it would be
necessary to have seen. On one occasion he had
given
strict orders that not a man, from the
colonel to the drum-boy, was to fall out of the ranks,
assuring them that the wounded would he cared for
by others, and, though their dearest comrades and
their most valued officers fell beside them, his
orders were obeyed ; the regiment never fell into
_n
confusion, but remained throughout the
day
the
position which bade defiance to any assaults of
enemy. (Cheers.) That was a result which could,
•plin the
e
only have been obtained by strict disci
corps being exposed to a most damaging fire. e,
li
hoped that danger might never approach these
shores. Should such a day come, he was still
strong enough to march in the ranks of the London
Scottish as a Volunteer aide-de-camp, though he
confessed, Highlander as he was, he should have no
objection to mount on horseback. (Laughter and
cheers.) It was the fashion to talk of the olden
time, but he remembered the boys of 50 years ago,
and he was convinced the race had not deteriorated.
When the moment of trial came he was persuaded
that the same intrepidity, the same fearlessness, and
the same unanimity of purpose would be exhibited.
Lord Clyde concluded by drinking to " The Health
of the Volunteer Force, especially the London Scot-
tish and th •
eir gallant and valued commander, Lord
Elcho."
Lord ELCIDD, who was received on rising 'to re-
turn thanks with the warmest manifestations, said
it 'was but natural
that some deficiencies should be
exhibited by those who were called on to place
themselves in command of corps having never
passed through the prel• • unwary grades. He was
sensible of his own faults, and would do his best to
I correct them during the recess. (Cheers.) He

thanked the members of the corps warmly for the
zeal, attention, and obedience which they had
shown, and stated that those qualities had already
begun to bear most gratifying fruits. A year ago
his Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge gave
volunteers some valuable advice about the neces-
Oy of attending steadily to drill. They had done
so in the interim, and were now in a position to
devote increased attention to rifle shooting. Being
in the second line at Wimbledon, he had been un-
able to see how the corps acquitted itself, but he
had heard on all hands the highest praise of their
performances, and he was certain that the courage
and discipline which had enabled them to face the
gorse bushes without shrinking—(laughter)—
would hereafter teach them to surmount even
greater difficulties. (Cheers.)
~ Captain Page and the Staff of the London
Scottish, with a variety of other toasts followed,
and the proceedings were prolonged until an ad-
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STER BANS.

BLEDON.

precisely as above on the satisfactory:state of the bank and
its business, the chairman spoke of the losses which had
accrued to the commercial world from the reckless system
of credit which had been adopted in times past, and ad-
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verted to the pleasure with which he and they all must
look upon the present state of commercial morality of the
kingdom, which was apparent, and could not be spoken of
in too high terms. If they had been astonished at what
he might call the erratic conduct of parties in the reckiess
use of credit, and notwithstanding any effects even as
to American matters, it might now, he believed, be truly
said that the credit of this country was as sound and as

good as at any period of its commercial history. (Loud
applause.) The chairman concluded by saying that he
should be happy to answer any questions any proprietor
might think proper to put to him, and to afford him all the
satisfaction in his power. (Loud cheers.)
Theßev. Mr. ROBINSON proceeded to make some remarks
upon the sympathy which had been shown to the Commer-
cial Bank, but he thought it lost much of its value from no
proposition having emanated from their own bank as to more
substantial consideration. (Several cries of " Oh, oh," and

" No, no," followed, and some slight confusion was the re-

Two or three other proprietors essayed to address the
meeting, but they were most imperfectly heard; and amidst
the good-humoured excitement,
The CHAIRMAN, addressing Mr. Robinson, said, " What
do you wish ?"

Mr. ROBINSON said he understood the chairman that
their own bank derived no benefit from the business of the

Commercial Bank during the last half-year. But he (Mr.
Robinson) wanted to know whether—when they did—they
intended to bestow anything on the shareholders of that

bank for the value of such business ?
The CHAIRMAN said he would answer somewhat after the
manner of courts of justice—he would at once say " No,"

and give his reasons after. (Hear, hear, and laughter.)
What he said he would repeat. It was a voluntary act on
the part of the Commercial Bank, in the interests of their
shareholders and their customers, to obtain assistance.
They obtained it, and the matter was embodied in a legal
instrument, which was the only document existing between
themselves (the London and Westminster Bank) and that

bank as their guide as to the transfer of the business. The
Commercial Bank had no power to perform an actual trans-
fer of their business. Their customers were not like serfs
in Russia. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) The bank sought
help, but it was entirely with the customers of that bank as

to the transfer of their business to the London and West-
minster Bank, or any other. (Hear.) Some of them came
here, some of them went elsewhere, just as their interests
or their feelings led them. Some came here whose busi-
ness the directors declined. In short, they took what

they thought best. (Hear, hear.) He was told that the
gentleman who put the question just now had only one share
in this bank—(laughter)—but was a large holder in the
Commercial Bank. (More laughter.) Now, he did not for
one moment question that gentleman's right to do as he
pleased—certainly not as to putting the question he had
done. But he must remind him of what the shareholders
had saved by obtaining the aid they sought instead of their
property being thrust lute the market. (Hear, hear.) He
would explain what had been done. On the 18th of Feb-
ruary this transfer took place ; and for three months the
London and Westminster Bank took no interest whatever—
which they ought to have done—(hear, hear)—for they had
authority to do so. Until the 18th of May, then, they gave
up any charge of interest at all. (Hear, hear.) Besides this,
they took 18 clerks suitable for the business of the London
and Westminster Bank from the staff of the Commercial
Bank. They looked for talent combined with seniority in
doing so, although they paid great respect to seniority.
They had been desirous of doing all they could to show
sympathy with those who, from no fault of their own, might
have been precipitated on the wide world. (Applause.) All
the officers were paid handsomely. A sum of £9,000 had
been distributed in various amounts amongst the staff; and
this, added to the absence of the interest of which he had
spoken, had prevented them from gaining any profit for the
first hall•year. After a few further observations, which
merely echoed what the chairman had previously stated,
The Rev. Mr. ROBINSON was proceeding to speak on
the subject again ; but after a short pause, occupied in
good-humoured objections, as good •humouredly taken,
Mr. WHEELER said he very much approved of the course
the directors had adopted, especially as regarded the £9,000
distributed amongst the employes of the Commercial Bank.
Indeed, he thought they had anted admirably throughout
(Hear, hear.) But, with all respect to them, he must say
he did not see the propriety of adding so much more to the
reserve fund, especially considering that some years ago
it was deemed that £150,000 would be ample for that fund.
(Hear, hear.) He thought, instead, that the proprietors
had fair claim to something like £2 per share more. He
believed the business of the Commercial Bank alone would
produce this bank not less than £15,000 a year. He thought,
therefore, it would be wise to begin at once and give the
proprietors a further division of the profits. If he thought
that not one of the directors would be on his side in the
view he took of the reserve fund, he should go home much
..ortifioa. (Laughtor.)
SHAREHOLDER said, if he recollected rightly, the re-
! serve fund was agreed to be increased to £200,000.
The CHAIRMAN said, to £250,000.
After a few words from two or three other shareholders
on this head, and
Mr, DONALDSON having said that he did not look upon
the reserve fund as a guarantee fund, but as a fund for
equalising dividends, •
Mr. HADOW said he thought the directors had acted
judiciously in gradually accumulating a reserve fund
amounting now to nearly a quarter of a million of money.
But. he thought if the bank continued anything like as pros-
perously as it had done, and the reserve fund increased to
£250,000, it might be distributed amongst the proprietors
as an increase of capital. (No, no.)
After a few words from Mr. Roils in favour of the
report being adopted,
The CHAIRMAN spoke strongly in support of tho reserve
fund, and reminded the proprietors that not long ago ano-
ther bank had lost no less than £250,000. Large figures
these I He could not bnt think the directors had done
wisely in doing as they had done in increasing the reserve
fund. (Hear, hear.) The only question was, how far
would they carry it? It was a subject which had not
escaped the attention of the board. He hoped, so far as
the present report was concerned, it would not be objected
to. (Hear, hear.) Having taken a brief review of the
progress of the bank and of the dividends it had paid, the
chairman said he hoped the proprietors would not inter-
fere with what the directors believed were the prudent and
conservative views they had taken, and that they would
not be found fault with fur not paying more dividend than
they had done. (Hear, hear.) He thought the increase of
the reserve fund might stand over for future consideration.
All he could say was, that the directors were anxious to
pay as good dividends as were consistent with the main-
tenance of the credit of the bank. (Hear, hear.) He would
move the adoption of the report.
This was duly seconded and unanimously carried.
The following resolution was then put :—" That the
thanks of the meeting be presented to Mr. William E wings,
the general manager, to the managers and secretary, and to
the other officers of the bank, for their past services ; and
that the special thanks of this meeting be also given to the
general manager and the managers for their exertions in
connection with the transfer of the business of the Com-
mercial Bank."
Mr. WHEELER seconded the resolution, which was also
unanimously carried.
Votes of thanks to the chairman and others were also
carried, which terminated the proceedings.
M.. I

VOLUNTEER REVIEW AT WM.

The following communication in reference to the
late volunteer review at Wimbledon has been for-
warded to us from the War-office for publica-
tion :

War-office, July 16.

The Secretary of State for War is gratified in receiving
from the General Commanding-in-Chief the accompanying
expression of his royal highness's approval of the manner
in which the movements of those corps of volunteers
which were reviewed by him on Wimbledon-common on
the 13th inst., were performed, and congratulates them on
the advanced state of military efficiency which they have
attained. THOMAS GEORGE BARING.
(Copy.)

Horse &nerds, S.W,, 15th July, 1861.
His Royal Highness the General_ 'Commanding-in-Chief
has much satisfaction in communicating to the Secretary
of State for War his appr(Lation of the manner in which
the movements of those corps of volunteers which were
reviewed by him on Wimbledon-common on Saturday the
13th inst. wore performed ; and in remarking that the
several corps concerned had evidently during the past
year made great progress in their drill, and attained
considerable military efficiency.—By order.
(Signed) J. YORKE SCARLETT•

PHCENICIAN AN TIQUITIES.—Durin g the past
three months considerable progress has been made in ex-
ploring the ruins of the ancient cities of Phoenicia. In
January, 1861, Dr. Gaillardot commenced at Saida, and
M. Earnest Renan at Sour, and the operations at these
places are now complete, with the exception of the excava-
tion of the great necropolis at the former place. Remains
of the Crusaders were found at both places, but none above
ground of the Phoenicians. Gigantic blocks of granite,
marking the limits of the ancient port of Sidon, still re-
main; also on the plain to the east of the site of the old city
a subterranean Sidon has been discovered. Here in 1855. the
scarcophagus of Eschmanuzar, in the cavern of Apollo, was
found. This is the only great inscribed Phoenician sarco-
phagus hitherto discoverod. Portions of another have been
found in :the same place by M. Ronan. Also in the rock
caves of Sidon, some of which are anterior to the time of
Alexander, sarcophagi of various forms, some of terracotta,
ornamented with garlands, have been discovered. Other
remains of different epochs have been examined, and por•
tions have been brought to Paris. Some of the sculptures,
&c., resemble those of Egypt; others those of Nineveh
and Persepolis. Among other objects found in the caverns
and brought home are many articles of dress and common
use, Phomician coins, and a leaden sarcophagus of good
workmanship.