The Sun.
London, England, 1861-06-21 00:00:00

THE SUN,' LONDON, FRIDAY VENING, JUNEI 21, 1861.

their fair share of offices, and perhaps there would be no
objection to this amendment.
After a few words from Mr. TORRENS,
Sir C. "WOOD reiterated his wish that the natives of
India should receive confidential employment. His principle
was that there should be no distinction between any subjects
of her Majesty, no matter what might be their country,
colour, or race. (Hear, hear.) For this reason he had made
no special mention of natives in the bill. In the other bills
the natives were not mentioned, and he thought it would
be absurd specially to mention them in this. His intention
was that there should be neither exclusion nor privilege,
but that all subjects of her Majesty should be equally eligi-
ble for places of trust. (Hear.)
Mr. BRIGHT said that there was great force in what the
right hon. baronet said, but still he thought there were un-
answerable arguments in favour of his hon. friend's amend-
ment. Perhaps the right hon. baronet would express an
opinion as to the proportion of native members there should
be in the council. If the right hon. baronet would make a
recommendation embodying his opinion. to Lord Canning,
and it was acted upon by that nobleman, a precedent would
be established which would perhaps be better than to insert
a special provision in the bill.
Sir C. WOOD said that when the bill passed a despatch
would, of course, be sent out to the Governor-General, and
in that despatch he should take care to express his views
as to the expediency of appointing natives to the council
without mentioning any particular number. That course,
he thought, would be much better than mentioning the
matter in the bill.

Lord STANLEY hoped that the amendment would be
withdrawn, and that the matter would be left to the discre-
tion of the Secretary of State and the Governor-General.
Mr. LAYARD said that although he did not agree with
many of the arguments he had heard urged against his
motion, yet after the appeal made by the right hon. gentle-
man he should not press it to a division, on the distinct

understanding that the right hon. gentleman would write a
despatch to the Governor-General and the governors of the
different presidencies to appoint these members of council.
The amendment was then withdrawn, and the clause
agreed to.
On clause 11,
Mr. VANSITTART moved in page 6, line 24, to leave
out " one year," and insert "five years." He did not be..
lieve the council as about to be constructed would give any
satisfaction to India. It appeared the non-officials were to
have a seat only for one year. In the hope that they might
be made effective he proposed that they should have a seat
for five years.

Mr. BRIGHT said that in looking over the bill no clause
surprised him more than this. He thought the hon. gentle-
man who moved the amendment had not Elated one-half of
the arguments that might be used against the proposition
in the bill. It seemed these additional members were co be
nominated by the Governor-General, and they were to be
appointed only for one year, and were to have no salary,
although their expenses would be paid. Every element of
independence as regarded these members was taken away.

If a man came into office for a twelvemonth he would know
at the end of that time who could leave him out when his
term of office expired. He did not think it necessary to go
the length of five years, but he thought three y ears the very
smallest term for which they should be appointed.
Mr. TORRENS trusted the right hon. gentleman would
agree to adopt the amendment.

Mr. CRAWFORD thought that three years would meet
the circumstances of the case, but that one year would not
allow any person to obtain a sufficient knowledge of the
office.

Lord STANLEY believed there was only one feeling
among the committee on this matter. They wanted to have
independence, experience, and zeal and interest for the pub-
lic service. Under this clause as it now stood it would be
utterly impossible to have any one of these things. (Hear.)
Sir C.ll OOD felt that it would be incurring a great re-
sponsibility to run counter to the views of Lord Canning.
Lord Canning said distinctly that the non-efficient persons
should not serve for more than three years, and that one
year would be much better. He would not take upon him-
self to go further than two years.
Mr. 11. SE YMOUR was willing to accept two years,
which was a common colonial period, and hoped that hon.
gentlemen would not divide.
The clause was accordingly altered to two years, and wa s
then agreed to.
On clause 19,
Mr. FORSTER drew attention to the despatch of Lord
Canning on the subject of publishing the debates. He con-
sidered it of the utmost importance that the debates should
be regularly reported.
Sir C. WOOD agreed that it would be well to make pub-
licity the rule ; but if natives who could not speak English
were tobe members of the Indian councils, there was danger
of the reports being one-sided. To prevent that, there would
be frequent official reports.
The clause was then agreed to, as were also the clauses
to 29 inclusive.
On clause 30,

Mr. VANSIT TART proposed to alter the term of office of
members of the local councils from one year to three. The
local councils would be stationary, and would therefore be in
a very different position from the general council ; and one
or two years' service would not be sufficient to secure that
interest and independence which he was anxious to see.
Sir C. WOOD said he proposed to make the time two
years instead of one.

Mr. D. SEYMOUR, thought the better plan would be to
appoint two for one year, two for two years, two fur three
years, and so on according to the number.

The committee then divided—
For the amendment
Against it
Majority... —6

The clause was then agreed to, with the insertion of two
years.

The other clauses up to 43 were agreed to.
The succeeding clauses, to clause 50, were agreed to.
Sir C. WOOD then moved an additional clause, provid-
ing that the senior member of council, or the governor of
the other presidencies, should succeed the Governor-General
in the event of his removal by death, or of any sudden
emergency.

The clause was agreed to, together with the remaining
clauses and the preamble, and the house resumed.
EAST INDIA (HIGH COURTS OF JUDICATURE)

BILL.

Sir C. WOOD moved that the house go into committee
on this bill.

Mr. BRIGHT said that the house had now been engaged
on the bill just disposed of seven hours. The few members
who had attended were now completely exhausted, and the
hon. baronet himself must have an insatiable appetite if he
wished at that time to proceed with an important measure
of this kind. For himself he was not hostile to the bill, but
if the motion was persisted in he would go away, in justice
to his own powers of human endurance.
Sir C. WOOD said that he was extremely anxious to pro-
ceed with the bill, and seeing that the hon. members who
took an interest in these matters were all present, and very
few amendments were given notice of on the paper, he
hoped that the objection to proceed with the bill would not
be persisted in.

After some discussion, in which several members strongly
objected to going into committee,
Sir C. WOOD said that if it was the general wish of the
house—(hear, hear)—that the committee should be post-
poned, he would assent to the postponement, and he would
place the bill on the list of orders for to-morrow, in order
that he might then fix the day when it would come on.

ficient cause, may discharge the child from the school before
the full expiration of the period for which he has been sent
there." That modification of the bill ho considered would
be absolutely necessary to the satisfactory working of the
bill, which would otherwise act very cruelly in some cir-
cumstances.

Sir G. C. LEWIS thought the power had better be left
to the Secretary of State, who would have not only the
power of discharging the child, but an interest in doing
so ; because the charge upon the public would thereby be
lessened. Besides, the 14th clause contained an absolute
power of discharge.
Mr. DUNLOP thought it a bad principle that a child,
when it was desired to remove it from one of those schools,
could not be removed without an application to the Secre-
tary of State.
The clause was agreed to, and the house having resumed,
the Chairman reported the bill as amended.

were locked together, and they came on neck and neck to
within a few strides of the elatr, when Fordham gave Little
Drummer a shake, and he gained the fiat of the judge by a
head, Sporting Life beatir.g Sharpshooter for second place
by four lengths. Borderer was a bad fourth. Redpole
fifth, Tonio sixth, Eskdale seventh, Lucknow next, and
Ipswich last. The winner was claimed by Mr. Mellon.
The Bushy Plate, of 30 sovs, added to a sweepstakes of 5
sovs each; weights for age; mares and geldings allowed
31b each; selling allowances. Half a mile.
Lord Westmoreland's Pupil, 2yrs, sst 71b (D 10) (Midgley) 1
Mr. J. Smith's El Dorado filly, 2 yrs, sst 71b (50) (Whip) 2
Mr. Burbridge's Woman in Green, 2 yrs, sst 71b (carried
sst 91b) (£10) (Parsons) 3
Callipyge and Cheesecake also ran.

Betting-6 to 4 agst the El Dorado filly, sto 2 agst Pupil,
and 5 to 1 agst Cheesecake

Pupil and the El Dorado filly lay in front from the start
to the finish—Pupil winning after a good race by a neck.
The winner was bought in for 170 guineas.

The Richmond Plato Handicap of 50 sovs, for all ages ;
winners extra. One mile.

Mr. W. Bevill's Audrey, 5 yrs, Bst 91b.... (L. Snowden) 1
Mr. S. Jacobs's Boolcaloom, 3 yrs, Est (W. Woodhouse) 2
Mr. Brayley's Clotilde colt, 3 yrs, 6st 41b.... (Parsons) 3
The Don and Lady Elizabeth also ran.

Betting—Even on Audrey, 6 to 4 agst Bookaloom, 10 to
1 agst any other offered.

Won easily by a length; the Clotildo colt was a bad
third. The Don and Lady Elizabeth beaten off.
A Maiden Two-yr-Old Plate of 40 sovs ; colts, Bst 71b;
fillies, Bst 41b ; selling allowances. New T.Y.C.
Mr. G. Simpson's sister to Morella, by Augur (X 100),
7st 131 b
Mr. J. Marshall's Evangeline (L5O), 7st 81b (A. Edwards) 2
Mr. Barnard's (0), 7st Illb (J. Reeves) 3
The following also ran :—Hedgehog, Perambulator, El
Dorado filly, Master Flatman, The Cure filly, Gitanilla,
Cock Robin, and Creusa filly.

Betting-5 to 4 agst Evangeline, sto 1 agst Sister to
Morella, 7 to 1 agst Vigil, 10 to 1 each agst Hedgehog and
the El Dorado filly, 100 to 8 agst any other offered.
Another long delay was caused at the post by the break-
ing away of Sister to Morella and the Creusa filly.
When the flag was lowered Sister to Morella, Evangeline,
Perambulator, Hedgehog, and Gitanilla ran together in
front for a short distance, when Sister to Morella and
Evangeline came out and ran on side by side to the distance,
where Evangeline had a slight lead, and continued in front
to the half distance, where Sister to Morella made her effort
and got her head slightly in front, and the two run home a
fine race, Sister to Morella winning by a neck ; three
lengths between the second and third; Hedgehog was
fourth, and the others tailed off, the Creusa filly last.
The Scurry Stakes Handicap of 10 sous each, with 20
added ; gentlemen riders, professionals allowed to ride
by carrying 51b extra. One mile.
Mr. Payne's Gabardine, 3 yrs, lOst (Mr, Edwards) 1
Mr. Price's Greenwich Fair, 6 yrs, list 61b (Mr. Woods) 2
Mr. Serle's Wild Bird, 4 yrs, lOst 91b, inc. 5113_ extr i_

Apollo and Impatience also ran. (J. Searle) 3
Betting-6 to 4 agst Gabardine, 2to 1 agst Greenwich
Fair, 5 to 1 agst Apollo, and 8 to 1 agst Wild Bird.
Wild Bird was the first to show in front, having Gabar-
dine second, Apollo and Greenwich Fair side by side third
and fourth, Impatience bringing up the rear. In this order
they ran to the half-mile post, where Wild Bird ran out,
and Gabardine took command, with Apollo second, Green-
wich Fair next. At the distance Greenwich Fair passed
Apollo, and in a few strides further she was alongside of
Gabardine. The two then came on abreast to within a
couple of strides from home, where Gabardine got slightly
the best of it, and won by a short head. Wild Bird was
beaten from the second three lengths, Apollo and Impa-
tience beaten off.

LATEST BETTING.
NORTHUMBERLAND PLATE.
5 to 2 agst Underhand (taken and offered)
10 to 1 agst Syringe (taken and offered)
100 to 8 agst Danae (taken and offered)
14 to 1 agst Joey Jones (taken and offered)
20 to 1 agst Predictor (taken)
GOODWOOD STAKES.
10 to lon the field (offered)
12 to 1 wanted agst (each) Starke, Schism, and
Voltella.
The stewards for the Hampton Races, 1862, are Lords
Strathmore, Sefton, and Courtenay.

HORSES STRUCK OUT OF THEIR ENGAGE-

MENTS.

June 12, at 12.50 p.m.—Pretendant, out of the Hunt
Cup, Ascot.

June 17, at 9 a.m.—Bradfield and Ashton, out of their
Newmarket engagements.
June 17, at 10.30 a.m.—alll Captain Christie's horses out
at Hampton, and all except Antares out at Newton.

Juno 17, at 12.40 p.m.—Atropia, out of all handicaps
published to date.

June 17, at 12.40 pan.--Dorking out of. the Odiham
Handicap.

June 17, at 4.30 p.m.—Joskin and Volition, out of the
Surrey and Middlesex Stakes at Hampton (left in by mis-
take).

June 18, at 9 a,m.—Bornico, out of Molymous Plato,
Liverpool.

June 18, at 9 a.m.—Bandsman out of Surrey and Mid-
dlesex Stakes, Hampton, and Newton Handicaps.
Juno 18, at 9 a.m.—Graut, out of Dogmersfield Park
Stakes, Odiham.

June 18, at 9 a.m.—Timandra, out of all engagements
entered into up to Juno 14.
Juno 18, at 9 a m.—All hvi.deS out or their
Hampton engagements.

June 18, at 11.30 a.m.—Jingling Johnny, out of the
Molyneaux Plate, Liverpool.
June 18, at 3 p.m.—Gaylad, out of the OdihamHandi-
cap.

7" June 18, at 4.20 p.m.—Pitman, out of all engagements
up to June 12.

June 18—Daniel, out of the Bentinck Testimonial Stakes
at Liverpool.

June 18, at 7.50 p.m.—All the horses in Mr.lW. H.
Mundy's name, out of their Odiham engagements, except-
ing Bolero, in the Hurstbourne Stakes ; and Prince Edward
out of the Mottisfont Stakes at Stockbridge, the Grange
Park Stakes, Winchester, the Coventry Stakes, Worcester,
and the Wothorpe Stakes, Stamford.

Goodwood Cup, 1862—The conditions-of this race as to
weights, foreign allowances, &c., will be revised before it is
renewed.

Bombardier has not been let to Mr. Swindell, but has
returned to Ireland.

Horse Named—The following name has bean given to
Lord Ailesbury's ch f Sister to St. Albans, by Stockwell,
out of Bribery, 3 yrs, Frailty.

THE GOODW,
Forfeits to be declared on Ti

'OOD STAKES.
uesday next. Two miles and