The Sun.
London, England, 1857-08-05 00:00:00

FREIGHT -OF SPECIE.

Sir G. B. PECIIELL obtained an order for a return
in detail of the manner in which the several sums were
expended under the vote of last session, in Civil Service
estimate for 12,634/., to defray the charge for freight of
specie to the various Commissariat stations abroad, for
which service the sum of 10,000/. is proposed for the
years 1857-8.

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HYDE PARK.
Mr. LAURIE asked the First Commissioner of Works
whether it was intended to erect any edifice in Hyde-
park in commemoration of the Great Exhibition ; and, if
no site had yet been adopted for Richard Ccenr de Lion,
whether there was any objection to allow it to surmount
the Marble Arch
Sir B. HALL said that no edifice in commemoration
of the Great Exhibition would be erected at the public
expense, but a subscription for that purpose had been set
on foot by Alderman Challis. He was not aware of any
objection to placing the statue of Richard Cceur de Lion
on the Marble Arch.
HAMPTON COURT.
Colonel NORTH asked the First Commissioner of
Works whether any payments; annual or otherwiss, were
required from those occupying apartments at Hampton-
court Palace, and if so, what was the amount of such
payments I
Sir B. HALL said that occupants of the palace paid
the rates cf the parish, amounting to about 500/ , and
also gave something to the chaplain and houskeeper.
Mr. LAURIE asked the Secretary to the Treasury if
the Government could be induced to adopt the Bay at
Barnstaple as a harbour of refuge, so necessary for the
west coast, there being no harbour less distant than 140
miles from the Bristol Channel ; and whether he would
permit evidence to be given before the committee now
sitting on harbours of refuge, of which he was chairman
Mr. WILSON said that there would be no objection
to the taking a evidence. The committee would report
in a few days.
PARLIAMENTARY OATHS COMMITTEE.
Oa the motion of L.)rd J. RUSSELL,
The house then proceeded to the nomination of the
members of this committee.
The list proposed by Lor3 J. RUSSELL was as.
seated to, the names of Sir F. Thesiger and Sir F. Kelly
being omitted at their own desire.
Power was given to the committee to send for persons,
papers, and recirds ; nine to be a quorum.
PUBLIC BUSINESS.
Mr. WILSON gave notice that the civil service esti-
mates would be taken to-morrow (this day).
DIVORCE BILL.
On the motion for going into committee on this bill,
Mr. S. WARREN moved an amendment, that the
house go into committee on the bill that day three
months, He complained of the breatkless haste with
which this bill, involving a principle so momentous, was
urged through that home at a late period of the session,
when the energies t,f its members were exhausted. He
remarked that the Commissioners, upon whose report
the bill proceeded, were not unanimous, and that that
report contradicted the s•aternont of the Attorney-
General, that the bill male no material alteratio❑ in our
marriage law, which he maintained, relying upon various
authorities, regarded_ the marriage tie as indissoluble.

Ile traced the origin of the " barbarous usage " of legis-
lative divorces—which sinned, he said, against the spirit
of our jurisprudence and proved the rule of the common
law—t 9 reasons of priva`e convenience. The more the
people scrutinised the measure and read the debates con-
nected with it, the more they were alarmed, and he
was informed that 16,000 women had petitioned the
Queen diree: against the provisions of the bill. If

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in which any buri.;l ground closed by order in council the bill should pass late law, it would be necessary
may be situate, and wt:ich does not belong to such to alter the marriage ceremony, for it would be im.
parish, by res ilution of the ve=try at a meeting ca:10,1 for possible that that ceremony which had the bloom of
that purpose, t) purchase such burial ground, and from ee:gina.l Eden on it could be retained in connection
the time of such purchase. 'eueli burial ground shall be- with the dissolubility of marriage (hear, hear), from its
long to such parish, aed he subject to all the conditiees henceforth assuming a totally different character
affecting the burial grounds of the parish in which the (Hear, hear). He called upon the noble 1 ,rd not to
same is situate. 2. That all the clauses and provisions force on this measure, which would have tie effect, as
contained in the " Lands Clauses C msolidation Act," it were, of brirging bigmay home to every door, and
for the purchasing and taking of leads; and also ail the adultery being made easy. (Hear, Lea-.)
previsions of the Burial Acts, for the borrowing of money, Mr. BAINES said the principle of the bill had been
shall respectively he deemed and taken to be incorper. affirmed more than once on this very bill by a majority
aced in this Act with respioct to such burial grounds. of more than two to one, .and yet the hon. and learned
Agreed to. gentleman who had just sat down had raised a third
Mr. MASSEY, in the absence of Mr. Puller, moved discussion on tee prirc ple of the bill. Why should they
the insertion of the following clause which ho thougat enter into a third discussion ? The subject had been
was a moderate form of getting rid of the differences that exhausted, and he (Mr. Baines) trusted there would be
at present existed in this respect :—" It shall not be re- no further delay interposed to their going into corn-
cessary to erect or maintain any sort , f wall or fence mitlee cn the bill. Ho could not help thinking that
between the consecrated and the unconsecrated portions I there was an intention on the part of some honourable
of any burial ground provided under the hereinbefore gentlemen to defeat this bill by delay. The Govern-
recited acts and this act, or any of them : Provided al- inent, however, would firmly resist any such attempt,
ways, that in the case of any burial ground where there and would consider it their duty to do all they could to
shall be no such wall or fence, it shall be the duty of the obtain the passing of this bill, and to make it as perfect
Burial Board having the care of such burial ground to a bill for the purpose as possible. The honourable and
place, and from time to time to repair and renew, such learned gentleman had addressed himself to what he con-
boundary marks of stone or iron as may be sufficient to sidered tho fact, that marriage was indissoluble according
show the boundaries of such consecrated and unconse- to the law. That was not a fact, and Lord Campbell
crated portions respectively." bad in the House of Lords declared that for the last
Mr. GLADSTONE, in the absence of Sir W. Heath. 200 years marriage had been dissoluble by law, and this
cote, moved a clause to the effect that, in the event of a bill was simply to make that law general which was at
bishop refusing to consecrate a burial ground for the in- present only partial.
terment of members of the Church of England, it should Mr. STEUART seconded and supported Mr. War-
be lawful for the burial board to appeal from such refusal ren's amendment. He urged the serious consequences
to the archbishop of the province, who should decide the of forcing the consciences of the clergy in this matter,
matter in dispute. On the bishop not consecrating the warning the house of the example furnished by the
ground within one month after receiving an order from Scotch clergy in a question of conscience.
thie archbishop to do so, it should be lawful for the arch- Mr. GILPIN considered the question as to the din.
wit) to licence the burial ground for interment, solubility of marriage to be settled. He supported the
" should make the use of the burial ground Bill, but was not anxious with reference to re-
as lawful as
right hon. i•f it had been consecrated. The marriage, and should vote against the provision that
gentleman referred to what he had said would compel clergymen against their conscience to
on a former
Bishop
of st:Zvulivo relative to the conduct of the solemnize a marriage between divorced parties.
6in reference to the consecration of Mr. HOPE strongly opposed the Bill, which, in his
he Swansea Burial-
Hims Fred, remarking that the Bishop opinion, would shake the foundations of pubic more-
s r'no right to setelf above the law, .
Mr. MASSEY re
what h
ferred tolity,
e stated on a Mr. WINGFIELD said, he had been told that there
former occasion relative to thin dispute,
which arose in had been no decision upon the question whether clergy.
consequence of the Burial
refusing to provide men coul I be compelled to marry divorced
and prties.
conveyance of the incumbent to from the burial. The marriage service authorized the clergyman toa exer-
ground. He regretted to say that up
penitenc..The cleared
conveyaticer of
to the present cise a discretion. This doubt, he thought, should be i
time the Bishop had shown no signs of
clause in the act r'ferring to the
the Mr. COLLINSuP. opposed the Bill, as a measure re- I
clergy was entirely permissive. He. agreed to the the
pugnant to the general feeling of the country. To the
posed clause, as bring likely to katisfactotily settle the opinion of Lord Campbell, that marriage by the law of
question. England was dissoluble, he opposed that of Lord
We_naleydale, in its very 'teeth.
Mr. DILLWYN defended himself from the remarks
of St. David's in a letter
I Committee.
made against him by the Bishop Mr. BUTT observed that many of the objections
urged against the Bill would be better reserved for the
published in the Times in ansaior to statements. in refer.
obliged
ence to the consecration of t'ais burial-ground he made.
Italy,
He, however joined in discussing the
principle of the Bill, which he supported. Upon the
in the house on a former occasion. He was .to
yinzes having question
be invited a comparison between
adopt that course in consequence of the / of morality, '
refused to insert his reply to the bishop's letter.. He the morality of
the and thatof where marriage was indissoluble,
still contended tnat the bishop was not justified in Scotland, where divorce was allowed.
course he had adopted. E said, he considered the decision
Mr. B. HOPE considered the law strong enough to of the house one which, however he lamented it, he
compel a bishop to do his duty. He deprecated dis- was bound to
lrespect ; he therefore confined himself
paraging remarks being made in that house relative to , to certain exp anations, personal, and in ref-rence to
a prelate who wag so universally respected. ; historical facts in question between the Attorne
Mr. HADFIELD hoped the c!ause would pass, be- , General and himself. y-
canoe it would put an end to the unseemly disputes that ' The amendment was negatived, and the house went
had taken place relative to the consecration of burial into committee on theßill.
grounds. it was high time that the clergy should be I The name of the court was altered from "the Court
reminded that they could not receive the pay of the of Marriage and Divorce" to "the Court of Divorce
state without they did the bidding of the state. If they sad Matrimonial Causes ;" and the proviso in the six%