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London, England, 1857-07-15 00:00:00

FALKIRK BURGHS.

Mr. COBBETT presented a petition from Mr. Merry,
a member of the house and representative for the Falkirk
Burghs, against whose return a petition wag now pend-
ing. The petitioner alleged that, on the 21et May, a
petition wag presented to the hcuse, bearing the usual
endorsements as to the recognisauces, &c., which was
referred to a select committee. The principal allegation
of the petitioner was that no such recognisances were
entered into on the 21st May, nor with regard to the
petition against the return referred to the committee.
On the 19th May a petition went before the examiner 4,
and the recoguiances, &c , entered into, but between
the 19th and the presenting of the petition referred to the
election committee, either a totally new petition was
snb.tituted, or the original petition on which the recog-
nizauces were entered was so altered by interlinettions
and erazures so as to make it substantially a different
one. The petitioner (Mr. Merry) prayed the house to
adopt the usual course in such matters, and take into its
consideration the allegations of his petition, and do him
justice on its merits, or refer it either to a select com-
mittee or to the committee appointed to try the validity
of the return. He moved that the petition be printed
with the votes, and taken into consideration to-morrow
(Thursday) at twelve o'clock.
Mr. BLAKEMORE, one of the members appointed
to try the return, said that the 'committee were to be
sworn in to-morrow at twelve o'clock, and he suggested
th .t Mr. Merry's petition should first be disposed of-
• Sir G. GREY said that there would be plenv of time
to dispose of this petition before the committee would
sit. The committee would be sworn to-morrow, but
they would not sit till the following day.
The motion was agreed to.
ELECTION COMMITTEES.

The ComtnW:ee appointed to try the petitions against
the returns for the boroughs of Weymouth and Malion
were sworn, and obtained leave to sit to-morrow (Thum..
day) at 11 o'clock.
SLIGO ELECTION.

Mr. I. Burr presented a petition from Mr. Somers,
a member of the holm, complaining of a breach of the
privileges of the house, in the institution of an action in
the C mrt of Queen's Bench in Ireland against the re-
turning officer for the borough of Sligo • for
rejecting a vote at the last election, while a pe-
tition complaining of the same matter and of the
return of the petitioner was pending in this house,
and cullimg the attention of the houselthereto. Ile moved
that this petition be printed and taken into considera-
tion to•nccrrow (Tuursday) at 12 o'clock.
Agreed to.

MAYO ELECTION.

Mr. SCHOLEFJEL 0, chairman of the Mayo Elec-
tion CommA ee, moved that the evidence taken before
the committee be printed, and he gave notice that to-
morrow (Thursday) he should move the suspension of
the writ until such time as would enable the evidence to
be in the hands of Her Majesty: (Hear, hear.)
I Agreed to.

MEDICA.L RELIEF.

In answer to a queition from Mr. MOODY,
Mr. BOUVERIE said that the attention of the Poor
Law Board had been called to a case that had happened

in one of the unions of West Sowerset relative tti.tnedi-

cal pa.r law relief. It appeared that the overseer gave
an order to a pauper for urgent medical relief, which
the medic 4 officer obeyed. The guardians refused to
pay the charges, cn which the medical man brought an
action in thu county court against the overseer for its
recovery, but was unsuccessful. He (Nlr. Bou .
eerie) considered the ruling of the judge collect
in point of law. The Poor Law Board hal given
the guardians arid parties interested in this case
some advice on the matter, but it was not the intention
of the Poor Law Bard to alter the general law in re-
ference to these cases. Medical officers had, to a con-
siderable t xliert t, the power in their own hands of
kno sing whether or not the cases were urgent, and he
thought that a medical officer in possession of such facts
aouid bs jas ified in disobeying such orders.
JUDGMENTS EXECUTION, &c., BILL.
The committee on this bill wad resumed.
On clause 9 some discussion ensusd, after which
Colonel KtENca moved that the chairman do re-
port progress.
The Committee divided. The numbers were—
For the motion ........................... 33
Against it ...... ................. 58
Majority .............................. —25
On the motion that the clause to agreed to,
Mr. MAGUIRE sail that he repented the time of
the committee was to be wasted in discussing this bill,
which was so objectionable to Ireland, and he moved
that the chairman do leave the chair.
The LORD ADVOCATE hoped IrLh members
would not throw so many obstacles in the progress of
this bill, and he asked the hon. member to withdraw his
motion.
Mr. SPOONER, reminded the committee that this
bill was objectionable to English as well as Irish
members.
Mr. MAGAN thought it would be better to with-
draw the bill and re-introduce it in an amended form
nest session. Hon. members were unable to agree on a
single clause.
Mr. WATKINS regretted the mode of opposition
adopted towards this measure. He thought it would be
more discreet if the hon. and learned member for Ayr,
who had introduced the measure, would withdraw it
this session. He looked upon the bill as a movement in
the right direction, viz., uniformity of laws.
Mr. MAGUIn defended the coarse he and those
who acted with him had adopted with reference to this
objectionable measure. The only way they could pre-
vent the passing of the measure was by such motions
as that before the hotae as the hon. and learned mem-
ber for Ayr in charge of the bill, refused to withdraw
the measure.
Mr. CRAUFURD assented to the suggestion and
wEhdrew the bill.
The bill was then withdrawn.
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Sir E. PERRY inived the second reading of this bill.
Sir J. Y. BULLER, ie the absence of Mr. M ALINS,
moved that it be read a second time this day six months
on the ground that its effect would be to create discom-
fort and dissension in families.
Mr. M. MILK supported the hill.
Mr. mAssgy said that this was a subject
of great importance, and he thought it should not
be got rid of in the summary manner proposed
by the amendment. He understood from the honour-
able and learned member for Devonport, that the
Attorney-General approved of the principle of the
bill, but objected to certain details which he proposed to
alter in committee, and consequently he (Mr. Massey)
should not object to the second reading of the bill.
„(Hear, hear.) There were clauses in the bill which
if allowed to remain would unsettle the present state
of married life is connection with property. The sub-
ject was one that called for cautious sod delicate legis•
lation, and had very properly been brought before the
house, but he feared it would be impossible to
pass ouch a measure this session. It would be
better to refer the bill to a select committee, when no
doubt the Government would take the subject up and
introduce a bill next session.
Mr. HADFIELD supported the reference of the bill
to a select committee.
Mr. SPOON ER objected to the principle hid
down in the bill that immediately on its pass
ing married women should be liable for their hus-
band's debts, and the consequences resulting therefrom.
Ile opposed the second reading of the bill.
Mr. BA.GWELL was at a loss to understand why a
bill of this kind should be confined to England. He
thought that as intermarriages daily took place between
the inhabitants of the three countries, the bill should
embrace all the married women of the three countries.
(Laughter )
Sir E. PERRY said that if the bill went to a elm-
.mittee he would take care that it should apply to the
United Kingdom. The bill W 9.9 intended for the relief of
the middle and lower classes of the country, in reference
to the property of married women. There was no
merit in the objections that had been made to the bill.
He denied that by the provisions of the bill, mar-
tied women might be sued for their husband's
debts. At present, married women in the upper classes
who had separate property, might be sued for their own

d,bt,, and that was the obj'et of the clause re-
ferr,d t in the bill. This bill was no fanciful idea of
his, hat the production of men of high standing after
years o, L:zoufht, such as Llrd Brougham, Sir Lawrence
Peel, leaders of circuits, and the members of the Law
AmendrneLt Society. He assented to the suggestion for
referring it to a select cominitt.?e rixt session after read-
ing it a second time that day under the protest of the
amendment.
Mr. asked the member for South Devon to
withdraw the amendment, on the underAanding that it
we uld be sent to a select c.nninittee next session.
Mr. J. D. FITZGERALD assented to the second
reading of the bill under protest. The first clause of
the b 11, if passed without amendment. would cause con-
,.i.deralle evil and great disunion. lie considered the
bill a dangerous experiment. lie admitted the presert
law r. goired nmendincnt, but of jx,ted to its principle
as being too lArge, and its details too dangerous.
Mr. ROEBUCK was surprised at this bid being called
a dangerous experiment, when it was founded on the old
Roman law. He asked the house to assent to the second
reading of the bill, if only to affirm that a wife may
ztill preserve her single legal existence, though she be-
come a married woman.

Mr. DE VERE opposed the Lill, on the ground of
its being applied t.► Ireland.
Sir J. V. BULLER would withdraw the motion, ors
the understanding that the bill shJuld not be further
proceeded with 'oh sessi..n.
Sir E. PERRY could not give that assura.nco. If the
divorce bill, which contained clauses relative to the pro-
perty of married women was thrown out, he should like
to have ore day's discussion in committee on this bill,
and after that refer it to a stlect c9nrnittee up stairs,

house then divided. The numbers were—
For tho amendment
Against it
Majority —55

The bill wai then read a second tune.
SCIENTIFIC AND LITERARY SOCIETIES BILL.
The committee on this bill was resumed.

Mr. HUTT said that tie object of the bill was to
amend the Act 6 and 7 Victoria, which ex 3051nted literary
and ecientific societies from local rating. The act had
bad a limited operation, and bad proved, contrary to
what it was intended, a bill for the benefit of the wealLiy
elssseß, whilst poor societies that were struggling to meet
their liabilities did not come under its provisions. At
the request of the S,clety of Arts he had introduced this
bill to remove this anomaly.
On clause 2,
Mr. SPOONER moved to omit the words "science,
and literature," and to insert " art," on the ground that
the bill as it stool would exempt club-houses from local
rating.,
Mr. J. LOCKE (Southwark) objected to the bill.
He considered that thee societies ought to bear their
share of local rates. To relieve them from such rating
was an injustice, because it was, done at the expense of
the piorer class of ratepayers, who derived no benefit-,
from these societies.

Mr. BOUVERIE concurred withthe hon. and learned
member for Southwark, that these societies should
not be tx-Hupted from rating. The principle, however,
had been affirmed by Parliament, and this bill di i not
create a new principle. When they came to the deuce
making Mr. Tidd Pr dt's decision, relative to societies
to be t x-mipted, final, he should move its omhsioa.
After some cdrscusa•on, in which Mr. Evans, Mr.
Fuller, Mr. 13:.resfoid Elope, Mr. Ridley, Mr. Ayr ton,
Col. Sykes, General Thompson, Mr. Pease, Mr. Palk,
and other hot,. members to.,k part,

The committee divided—
For the amendment
•
Against it
blf+jurity ---50
The amendment waj accordingly 100.
Mr. BOUVERIE moved to omit the word " educa

tion." 'rue lam at present exempted science and art,
and he thought the principle (..f the bill should not be
Extended to the various charitable schools throughout
the country in connection with religious societies. It
would limit the exemptions to the present area,
Mr. HARDY was opposed to all exemptions, and he
condemned the conduct of the managers of many of these
institutions, who paid more money in contending points
of law relating to rating than woull pay the local rates
for a great many years. Under the clause, societies
with clubs would he exempted from thetperation of the
bil!. He should test at the proper time the opinio❑ of
the committee, by moving the re-introduction of the
words, " exclusively used, &c ," in the present law to
which objection wag taken unto this bid. The word
" education" had too great a signification to be retained
in this clause.

After a lengthened discussion the committee divided,
For Mr. Bouverie's amendment
Against it
Msjority —29
Mr. HARDY then moved that the words should be
" science and art."
Mr. HUTT opposed the amendment.
Mr. W. EWART said the introduction of the words
" flue arts" would make an aristocratic distinction,
which the promoters of the bill wished to prevent.
Their object was to give the working classes every en-
couragement in perfecting themselves fa their respective
arts, and hence it was that the clause was drawn in its
present form. Exemption from the bill required that
the buildings should belong to societies, and not estab•
lashed for profit
After soma discus ion the committee dividid—
For the amendment
Against it 96
nisi:nay
The amendment was agreed to.
Mr. B. HOPE moved as an amendment the insertion
of the words " or elementary instruction" after the words
" ecience or arts."
Mr. BOIJVERIE opposed the amendment, which
was negatived without a division.
Mr. HARDY moved the insertion of the word " ex-
clusively," after the words "literature, science, or the
art.'," as i,ecessary to prevent those societiee from
being improperly turned into clubs.
Mr. J. LOCKE (Southwark) said that to prevent this
bill from bring taken undue advantage of, the words
" cup of tea" should be inserted to describe the nature
of the refreshments to be cousumed, or else they might
be extended to brandy and soda water—('aughter)—and
from that to all the advantages of a club.
The committee ultimately divided. The numbers
were—
For the amendment
Against it
Majority —4s
The amendment was agreed to.
Mr. HU r said that as the amendment has rendered
the efforts o, hitn,elf and friends nugatory, he inti-
mated that he should withdraw the bill, and moved that
the chairman do leave the chair.
Tile motion wao agreed to, and the house re:=umecl.
MEDICAL AND SURGICAL SCIENCES
(QU EEN'S UNIVERSITY) (IRELAND) BILL.
The motion for the second reading of this bill was dis-
charged, and the bill withdrawn.
MEDICAL PROFESSION (No. 1) BILL.
Mr. HEADLAM moved that the order for going
into committee on this bill he discharged on the ground
that there was not time this session to carry the bill
throegli Parliament. Ile thought the Government
shrml.i nt xt session bring forward a bid based ou the
.principles the house had affirmed in reference to this
questi-n.—Aereed to.
SMOKE NUISANCE (SCOTLAND) ABATEMENT
BILL.
This bill was committed pro forma for the introduc-
tion of amendments.
REFORMATORY SCHOOLS BILL.
Certain formal amendments to the bill were considered
and agreed tc.