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London, England, 1861-06-01 00:00:00

mittee comprising such able gentlemen as Gen. Codring-
ton, Gen. Hay, Captain Boxer, Mr. Whitworth, and Col.

Dickson, should have been unproductive of any result
whatever, but he hoped that would soon be remedied by
the appointment, if necessary, of another committee.

Mr. T. G. BARING said it was intended that there
shoull be another trial between the Enfie'd and Whitworth

rifles of the same material, and that as regarded the form of
the vote he thought that the massing together of the items
tended greatly to facilitate discussion. At the end of the

year he anticipated that the stock of arms would be in a
highly satisfactory state. The increase of the vote for ex-
periments chiefly arose from the expense of testing iron
plates, which fell upon the War Department.
Colonel DICKSON moved the reduction of the vote by
£112,473, being the excess of the item far stores in the cor-

responding item of last year.
Capt. .TER' IS supported tine vote, expressing his strong
objection to the reduction of the military stores of the
country.

Mr. CONINGHAM looked with grata suspicion on these
Government experiments, and he believed that it was gene-

rally admitted that the Enfield was a very inferior weapon

,o the Whitworth rifle.

Sir J. PAXTON said that the fact was the Enfield
rifle had been made what it lms by adopting the bore of
the Whitworth rifle and two-thirds of its turn. It was

objected that the Whitworth rifle was more expensive;
and no doubt those that were inade by hand cost some ten
guineas because they were ma de by hand, but if they were
made upon a large scale, with the aid of machinery, the
price could be brought down to that of the Enfield rifle,
while we should have what everybody admitted was a very
superior weapon. At the sam 13 time, in these matters the
Government had the best oppo Ttunities of knowing all the
facts of the case, and he should:, therefore, support the vote
against the motion for its redw tion.
Mr. BARING explained that the reason of the extra
charge for military stores and experiments last year was the
adoption of the Armstrong gun and the experiments neces-
sary to try it.

After a few remarks from Mr.. LIDDELL the amendment
was negatived and the vote agl need to.
The Chairman then reporter I progress and the house re-
sumed.

The Customs and Inland It e venue Bill, as amended, was
considered and agreed to, and • 5 as ordered to be read a third
time on Monday.

EXCISE AND !STAMPS BILL.

The house went into commi t tee, pro forma, on this bill,
in order that it might be print exl with amendments.

On the second clause being proposed,
Mr. GRIFFITH moved, as an amendment in the clause,
to strike out the word "quart' I and insert the word " pint."
The CHANCELLOR of t' b e EXCHEQUER was very
sorry that he could not arced e to the proposal of the bon.
gentleman. He felt himself to a certain extent entangled,
hut he hoped the bon. gentle roan would kindly regard the
position in which be was plat ed, and he was sure that, from
the kindliness of the hon. get ttleman's character, he would

regard that position. It had certainly been admitted that
it was a grievance that hither 'to less than two gallons of
spirits could not be sold by the a wholesale dealers, but he (the
Chancellor of the Exchequi ar) had now come down to a
single bottle—(laughter)—an tti he was determined not to
lower it beyond that. His hoc t. friend would know that he
had no undue sympathy with publicans, still he would be
very far from wishing to do t:b tem, as a class, any unneces-
sary injury. The right hon. gl antleman concluded by relie.
rating that he would not, u• 3 der any circumstances, come
down lower than a single bot t le.
Mr. CON INGHAM begg ;ed to remind the right hon.
gentleman that what went u t eder the name of a " single
bottle" was exactly an imperi a 1 pint.
Mr. D. GRIFFITH the: tt consented to withdraw his
amendment.

Lord FE Rl‘lOY moved th Lt at the end of the clause there
be added, " That notwithstar 'ding any provision hereinafter
contained, all penalties to be incurred or recoverable under
this section, or in relation th ereto, may be sued for by any
superintendent or inspector o l police, upon information and
summons before the police co cart or justice having jurisdic-
tion in the place where the offence is committed, but the
appropriation of the penalty . a hall be the same as is herein-
after specified."
The CHANCELLOR of -the EXCHEQUER said he
should agree to the introduci f ion of the words proposed to
be added to the clause by his noble friend the member for
Marylebone. (Hear, hear.)
The words were then adde a!, and the clause, as amended,
was ordered to stand part of I`. he bill.
On clause 3, which created. a five shilling license for the
sale of light beer to be consito red off the premises.
Sir W. JOLLIFFE took exception to the clause. Ho
looked with distrust on this: extension of the system of
licensing, which he believed 'would have a most detrimental
effect on society.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
the object of the clause was not to create a new class of
houses for the sale of stronE; liquor. It dealt merely with
houses where beer not exceed :ing in value three-halfpence a
quart was sold to be censure :red off the premises, under the
authority of an order of th F, Treasury. By a recent de-
cision, which the revenue a sahorities were not prepared to
dispute, that order- was not deemed sufficient, and the
clause, therefore, was introduced to legalise a practice
which materially conduced t o the comfort and advantage
of the poorer classes. The beer sold was of a weak and
inferior description, and for consumption off the premises.
He did not think, under the circumstances, that those
beer-houses should be placed under the same supervision
and regulations as the other' beer shops, where beer was
consumed on the premises. If any specific complaint was
made as to the manner in which the beer shops now pro-
posed to be licensed were mnducted, he would take care
that it was fully investigated-. He hoped the right hon.
baronet would be satisfied with this explanation.
The clause was agreed to.
Clauses 4,5, 6,7, and 8 w"are agreed to.
On clause 9,
The CHANCELLOR of tihe EXCHEQUER said there
was a class of men called ")Duffers," who, being substan-
tially hawkers, sold their g sods by sample. He proposed
to alter the words of the clam tse, so as to extend the existing
law and make those hawkers: liable.
The clause, as also clause 10, was agreed to.
On clause 11, which had reference to the taxing of house
agents,

Mr. AYRTON hoped tbos right hon. gentleman would
withdraw it.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the
object of the clause was to substitute a reasonable for an
unreasonable amount of duty, and so to recover a revenue
upon lettings of that nature, which they had hitherto failed
to obtain.
Mr. CONINGHAM opposed the clause.
The committee divided, when there appeared—
For the clause
Against it
—ll
The clause was then agreed to, and after some further
conversation the other clauses were passed and the chair-
man reported the bill.
The Consolidated Fund (410,000,000) Bill sad the Re-
formatory Schools (Scotland) Bill were read a third time
and passed.
The Poor Assessments (S cotlaud) Bill was read a second
time.

The house adjourned at a quarter to two o'clock.

FIRE AT A LUCIFER FACTORY.—On Thursday
morning a fire broke out in the premises of Mr. J. Hynanif
lucifer match maker, 7, Prince's-square, Finsbury. The
fire occurred in the drying-house, through the overheat of
the stove. The brigade engines were quickly in attendance,
and the firemen got the flames extinguished, but not until
180 gross of matches were destroyed.

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