The Sun.
London, England, 1857-09-19 00:00:00

I'flF S UN,. 1.-. .NDON, SATU=RDAY EV N 1 G, SEPTEMBER 19, 1857

as reinforcements arrive I fancy we shall go in and
I take Delhi.

"July 16.
"I had to go off on duty yesterday, se ceuld not
finish this letter. I wa, at work with 200 pioneers
at our most advanced post, called the Ram Summy
House, about 700 yards from the walls of Delhi.
We could-plainly distinguish the Pandies at work
on their batteries, and also watching us. They sent
in several shot very near us, but happily no. one was
wounded. Whenever we are working under fire a
man is stationed ou the look out, who, as soon as
he sees the smoke of a gun from the city, calls out,
"Look oat!" when everybody immediately ducks
down behind the nearest cover, and as soon as the
shot has gone past up they get again and go on with
their work. The most disagreeable things are the
shells, as after the smoke is seen it takes a minute
or two before they reach the ground, and, as they
come down vertically, it is impossibly to get out of
their way.
"You witl see by the papers better than I cm
tell you the progress of the rebellion over all this
part alndia. Almost every native regiment that
cent! has mutinied, in many cases murdering their
officers. Daily accounts of some more regiments
revolting come in, and, as they make for Delhi at
once; the number of Pandies in the town is increas-
ing every day. The only native regiments in which
we put any faith ate the Sikhs and the Ghoorkas.
These, however, are famous fellows, fighting splen-
didly, and even in some cases outdoing the Euro-
peans. We bad a very hard fight on the 9th inst.,
lasting almost the whole day. We lost 258 killed
and wounded. On the 14th our loss was 212,
chiefly wounded. I have only just heard these re-
turns. They 'are grea' er then I expected.
" Col. Baird SMith is our Chief Engineer ; be
was sent for from Roorkee. Our strength is up-
wards of 20 officers. We all live and mess together,
in one of the unburnt bungalows, in cantonmeots.
We are very fortunate in this respect, as everybody
else in camp is under canvass, which must be rater
unpleasant now that the rains have sat in. Lately
I have been blowing up a goo 1 many bridges in
the neighbout hood of the camp to prevent the Pan-
dies getting into our rear.
" On these expeditious a party of Sappers, es-
corted by about 100 Sikhs and 50 native cavalry,
go out to the bridge (generally from three to eight
miles distant from the camp), a mine is then dug
in the pier of the bridge, two or three barrels of
powder put in, and then exploded. These expe-
ditions are very p'easant, as the country about the
canals is beautifully wooded, and it is a great re'ief
to get out of camp for a short time. This, however,
is provided it does not rain. About a week ago I
went with a party to blow up an aqueduct three
miles distant. We started about 2 p m., an•t re-
turned about 12 at night drenched through and
thoroughly miserable, it having' rained the whole
time. Our turn of duty comes on every 24 hours.
We have 10 hours on duty and then 22 off. The
night duty is the worst, it is so difficult to keep
awake. At times yonr eyelids will close, however
you may try to keep them open ; and it is abso-
lutely to look after the men the whole time, as
otherwise they are certain to go off to sleep, and
then nothing is done.
. " We are by no means badly off in the living
way, having a very comfortable mess. I don't
dislike our manner of life—the only grief is being
kept here by a lot of villainous mutineers. As soon,
"however, as reinforcements come up we shall pay
them out in fine style.
" P.S.—The other day C—, of the 2d Fosileers
with his men, burst open the door of a house in
which were a let of Pandies. C— was in front
when the door gave way, and he fell into the house
with it. Lucky for him, as a Pan dy blazed away at
him from the in-i le, but the ball went over his head.
C'-- then tried his revolver at the mutineer,
but it would not go off, so he ran him through
with his sword. His men then went in and finished
off the rest of the Pandies in the house.

"The general opinion in the camp is thak we
could take Delhi by assault any day we like, but as
it is so large our small force would not be able to
hold it. We are snug enough here, and are making
our position stronger every day by constructing
new batteries."

The following is from an artillery officer :
" Camp, Delhi, July 25.
" There is not much difference in the state of
affairs here since I last wrote, and I wish I could
say the same of other parts of the country—Oude
and about there. We have heard but lame accounts
but in many places all the Europeans have been
murdered indiscriminately. We have had 8 or 10
small engagements with the Pandies, but most of
them unsatisfactory ones. It generally ends in our
troops finding themselves under the walls of the
city and corning under the grape of their heavy
guns. On the whole, I think we have lost 32 offi-
cers either killed or died of cholera, which has car-
ried off several lately—one or two friends of mine,
poor fellows—(it is a wretched graveyard to lie in)
the victims of these accursed. traitors. Before long
I hope Providence will avenge the loss of some of
our bravest and best. The men I think look well,
much more so than I have often seem them look at
this season of the year in cantonments, and T hope
they will continue so ; the excitement, of cowls:,
keeps them up, but they getvery tired of this bush-
fighting,
the jungle is so very thick that it is most
unsatisfactory work, and they dread so being lett
behind, poor fellows ; one or two have been, unfor-
tunately, and their heads are cut off and parade 1
through the city. We have large reinforcements
coming both from the north and 'south, and
it is but a matter of time. They are falling very
short of caps, and their powder, which they are
making themselves, is very inferior. We to )k
lot of saltpetre, too, the other day, which will limit
the quantity they used to make—gamely, eight
barrels per diem. I have not received your letters
for the last three mails and am very anxiously
looking out for them. I gave very particular in-
structions about forwarding them. I continue very
well and. jolly. I have left the heavy batteries, which
was really very heavy work, and am now with Tur-
ner's troop ( f Ilene Artillery. We take the picket
duties, and 1 am on every third day, and get two
in camp ; but when here you cannot move about I
far—the alarm is constintly sounding, and we have
to go out to our respective pos s. We have the rains
now, which makes it very plemant, as the heat is
very great in the day, and I don't know how often
my hands and face have been pealed. What a glo-
rious campaign it wi 1 be for those who live to fight
it this next cold see.son, hunting down those
wretches and everminaeing them. At Jhelum,
Sealkote, and other places where they have but
lately mutinied the Sepoys have been nearly all cut
up, and those that have escaped are gradually-being
seer in from dirt rent places to be hung. How well
this state of things has been fore. old by Lord Eden-
borough and others; 1.-ius how little we thouglitvie
should see it in our time ! In Oude a great many
have been cut up, principally in the small out sta-
tions. But the communications are still cut off;
all our news from below come through Bomb ay ausl
Lahore, except now and then a cos ed (or me'sen-
ger) finds his way disguised as a fakeer from Agra,
but their reports are very exaggerased. We ought
to be allowed a year at home after this is over, but
I fear we shan't get it. We know of the China troops
being on their way up, but we can't ascertain
where. I don't think anything decisive c to be done
for the next month. We could go into the city
any time we liked with but little more loss than we
have every time we get under the walls, but then
whet are we to do when we are there? We have
not men enough to hold it and defend our camp
here. They have latterly been trying hard to get
at us again in the rear, but we have blown up a'l
their bridges; and effectually stopped them. My
things have not come down hero yet, but we are
pretty comfortable. We all wear as much flent,cl
as we can. 1 often emus) myself with sketching,,
but was stupid enough to leave my colours at
Lahore. Gholeb Singh is going to send us a lot
of his rabble. 1 would much sooner be without
them. However, they hate the Paudies. All our
wounded are doing well. The greater part who caa
have gone to Simlab, where I hope they will soon
pick up. We are acting now merely on the defen-
sive, and fire as little as possible, only now and then,
to induce them to waste their ammunition."
The following is an extract from a letter from a
Staff officer of rank in the Camp before Delhi,
dated July 26 :
" Here, you see, we are still before Delhi, and
no immediate prospect of our finding ourselves in-
side the walls of the city. Since I last wrote just the
same kind of thing has been going on as before ;
attacks on our position every third or fourth day
or so, always terminating in the same result—the
entire repulse and discomfiture of the enemy, and
often with great loss, but never without a greater
number of casualties on our side than with our small
force we can well afford. The newsletters from the
city describe the mutineers to be much disheartea«l
at their constant want of success ; and no doubt
must Le so, for their attacks of late have been m'ch
naerefeeb' e, and as each day is adding to the strength
"f our defences, no fear whatever is felt of their be; ug
able to make any impressiond on them. You will
hardly be
Prepared
our still remaining on at home to hea- of
en thee defensive, the besi-Lied,
in fact, instead of b •
estegers ; but so it has e en
I arriviasl
.here, and when
maysay from the day of our
the strtngth of our little arms
the
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will be the less smuripgrhitsyedwetlol
ond k,
case. It looks
but the rd 1
paper—six 1%-o-r-
-ine:its of Europeans, and four of native infant
(Sikhs and Gin ce kas), and I have no don, ;I; re
1 under 4,ooo—say 2,40,1
jdrn at 10,000 men,
suttrieinnbgetrh
a and the remainder natives. I hxve not
ropean , is set.
r o
sesn the returns lately, bat I think I most b
e have 4 000 infante
, above the mark in saying W y.

In artillery -we- are fortunately tolerably well off,
but in cavalry the enemy perhaps outnumber us !
by five to one. It is as well that they are
a most unenterprising set of scoundrels, the
cavalry, or they might do us infinite damage is
cutting off our supplies. As it is, our rear is per-
fectly open, and supplies as plentiful and cheap as
they would be in the best regulated cantonments.
You will ask impatien ly what we are going to do,
and how long we are to remain in our present po-
sition. lam not in the General's secrets, but I
fancy there is no doubt that we shall do nothing
towards attacking the place until we receive Con-
sictsiraWe reinforcements. Matters are in such a
distracted state below that though troops are
known to have -marched from Allahabad on the
4th of this month they may have so much to do at
Cawnpore, Lucknow, and elsewhere that we almost
give up the hope of their reaching us in reasonable
time, and we therefore look forward to the large
force now on its way to the Punjab to join us. All
ought t 3 be here about the 12th or 15th proximo,
and then we shall be strong enough to work in
earnest with the wretched city. The troll); coming
down amount alt ;ether to some 4,000 infantry, of
whom 1,400 are European and the rest Ghoarkas
and Sikhs. There are also artillery and cavalry,
and another siege train with heavier guns than we
now have, and our force will on the whole very
nearly be doubled, certainly so in infantry in which
we are now comparatively weakest. We have
only to pray that sickness may not overtake us
here before these fresh troops arrive, and there is
every hope that it may not be so, as the sickly sea-
son seldom commences hero before the middle of
September cr later, when the rains leave off. At
present there does not appear to be more sickness
than there would be were the men looted in their
barracks, and several of the regiments, the com-
manding officers tell me, are positively healthier
than they probably will be in cantonmeuts. When
once our fresh troops are here I should think a
week ought to put us in possession of the city, and
once in thin e the Palace and Old Fort could not hold
out a clay. It will be a great advantage certainly if
three or four European regiments join us from
below, but this I think is hardly to be expe cte 1 un-
less it is determined to abandon Luckno-v and all
the country on the left bank of the Ganges—that
is, Rohilcund and Oude. We should then have
only Cawnpore and Futtyghur to hold in any force,
and all the troops not required for the defence of
these places might move up to us. By the letest
acceuete from Lucknow, but which are only up to!
the 2d July, all was right there, and Sir H. Law-
re
toe had some 7CO Europeans of her Majesty's
32d, and part of the 84th, but he was almost con-
fined, to the intren:hments he had made, and I
should doubt, when all the mutinous regiments of
Oude gathered round him, his being able to hold
his awn for many weeks. Havelock, however,
ought to•be with him in good time. • The latest in-
telligence from him is of the 11th, and he was then
said to be on his march, and within 40 miles of
Cawnpore. The strength of hie force is not men-
tioned, but I should doubt its being more than
2,000 infantry with perhaps nine guns and a very
sm!4l party of cavalry—quite sufficient, however,
to thrash any force he is likely to meet of the
enemy. More European regiments must, how-
ever, be on their way from Allahabad to join him.
The accounts we have from Cawnpore, also, I am
sorry to say, from Futtyghur, are very bad ; but
they are merely the reports of natives, and we still
cling to the hope that they may not be true. They
are to the effect that at both places after holding
out a very long time against enormous odds, our
small -garrisons took to the river in boats, but were
attacked there, overpowered, and nearly all killed.
This news about Futtyghur only came in this morn-
ing, that about Oiwnporo about a week ago ; but
you may imagine how defective our communication
is when your hear that it was upwards of three
weeks before the intelligence of the Cawsipore cata-
trophe reached us. You will, probably learn vie
Calcutta exactly what has occurred at these places
and also much later news of Allahabad and of
Havelock's movements. Of our new Commander-
in-Chief Pat Grant's movements we know literally
nothing, but he ought, in my opinion, to came up
country, and the Governor-General too, for
when we have disposed of Delhi there will
be many matters of moment to settle that will
be better done on the spot, without the inter-
vention of the council, by the Governor-General
aad the Commander-in-Chief. The c macil will
be better employed in undoing the numerous ab-
surd acts and regulations they have been at work
at for years past. After the capture of Delhi one
short act disarming the whole of the population in
India would do more than anything else to insure
its prosperity and preserve peace and quiet in the
land. It was to this measure that Sir Charles Na-
pier
owed so much of his success in quieting Scin.de ;
but Lord Dalhousie was too proud to titre a lesson
from him, and there were many that might have
been taken to our advantage, and had Sir Charles
been listened to regarding the magazine of Delhi
our position in India would have been a very dif-
ferent one to what it now is. There seems no end
of the shot and shell they have in Delhi, and of
guns, too, they have an unlimited number, but
their powder is said to,be expended. They make
it; of course, but it is not so goof as ours, and
their stock of percussion caps is reported as coming
to a close. It is to be hoped that it is so, fur these
th y never can manufacture, and their only plan
will be to alter the locks for flints."

THE BATTLE AT JHELUM.
The following is a letter from an officer serving
in the Punjab

"Camp Goojerat, July 15.
" There has been a sad affair at Jhelum. Three
companies of my regiment were sent dowa from
Raoul Pindee, under Colonel Ellice, will same
Horse Artillery, to disarm the 14th Na ire In-
fantry.

"This regiment was drawn up on its own pa-
rade grcund when our force arrived, and, s^eing
them approach, boa led, fired at their olicers
(luckily without effect), and bolted off to their bar-
racks, guardhouses, &c. Colonel Ellice imme—
diately gave the word to charge, which was done
in, gallant style, but our poor men were shot down
right and left by the murderous fire of the sepoys,
who took advantage of their cover to fire without
being themselves exposed ; they we- e, however,
after some hard fighting, driven out of their
po-ition, and then made for a n ighbouring
village, where the cover was equaqy advan-
tageous for thE-uo. This position our men, as-
sisted by 3 guns, also drove them from, but with
fearful sacrifice to our side, the sepoys fighting like
fiends and disputing every inch of ground. They
were at la t put to flight, but, having very few
cavalry, and those hardly t ) he -Lusted, thy could
not be pursued, and so those who were not killed
escaped into the junzle. I regret to ray that we
lost one officer in this affair, Captain Spring.
Colonel Ellice was dangerously wound :d through
the chest while gallantly leading the charge. Poor
young Streathfield, the bravest of the brave, got a
bullet through both knees, smashing the right one
to atoms and going through the other. The right
leg was amputated at tho thigli, and he is now pro-
gressing, I hope and trust, satisfactorily. Cbiches-
ier was shot through the left ),rat, bit is doing well.
De Mon tnao-ency got off with a b diet through his
trousers, another Filleting away his sea,hbard but
he was not hurt himself. Sorn. Burns has his cheek
grazed by. a ball. The other officer, Captain Mac-
pherson, got off scot free. The officers here named
were the only one present at Jhelum at the time ;
I was at Raoul Pin lee, but as -soon as the news
arrived by telegraph reinforcements were sent down
immediately, I among the number ; but when we
had gone half way to Jhelum an order came recall-
ing us as the action was all over ; I however got
leave to come on, and arrived the morning af,er.
"Our:loss in the 24th was 1 officer, 2 sergeants,
and 23 men killed—,3 officers, 4 corporals, ald. 43
men wounded.

'• Poor Ellice is dreadfully wounded, having, in
addition to the wound through his chest, got a ball
Virough his left kg ; he, Streathfield, and
ter, have been taken to a large house in Jhelum,
whore they are well taken care of. Government
having offered a reward of 30 rupees per head (about
30 for every fugitive Sepoy, we had the sai-fac-
tion of ,liaoting 48 of them on the evening of the
Bth, and th 3 following day we blew 25 away from
the canniaa's mouth. The odds in numbers were
dreadfully against us, the Sepoys were 702 in num-
b?r, and our
.three companies only mustered 247
men.

" I must tell you that the very day this action
took place at Jhelum (the 7th of July) the other
companies of my regiment at Raoul Pardo) were
ordered to disarm the 58th Native Infantry ; but
as soon as we took up our position on t ither side
of •the Horse At til'ery, ready to blaze into tlpm
in case of their refusing to give up th'ir arm,, they
paused fora moment, then took t 3 their heels and
belted from too parade ground. Oar nien were
with the greatest difficulty prevented by the officers
fr-m firing, as als ) the artillery. Had wo fined, we
should have &lie so, right into a b idy st ff
officers who were between uq. The S? ,y,, how-
ever, were induced to give up theirarrus peaceably,
and when they were handed over to our magazine
there were about 200 of them found to be loaded !
Thank God, everything passed over without blood-
shed. I must, therefore, tell you what I am doing
now. The three companies engaged at Jhellun are
now Marching down, under Colonel Brown, t',
intercept the. 46th Native Infantry and- the 9th
Light Cavalry, which have mutinied and bolted
from St-talkote, after murdering several officers and
plundering the houlie. Our force consists of the
three companies of my regiment, 230 Sikh soldiers
(goof; Fa- n and tru 10'.1 Irregular 111. r-e, ant

three Horse Artillery guns. We are a very nice
little force, and ready for any emergency. The
mutineers we are after are on one side of the
Ravea, near Lahore and cannot cross ; on the other
side of the rivur are the 52d (Queen's) Light Infan-
try, s )me guns, and some Irregular troops, under
Colonel Nicholson ; so if we cannot polish them off
moat effectually it will be strange. I need not say
what we have to undergo in marching during this
trying weather, nothing to protect us from the
burning rays orthe sun but a fold of canvas, and
the hot winds blowing through it like a-blast from
a furnace. In an evoedition of this nature officers
and men all share alike, the only thing to beer us
up li)eing the excitement and the hopes of encoun-
tering these murderous ruffian, which may
possibly happen about the 20th _

" I liaven-ot much more time to write, nor in-
deed could I go on much longer, as I am nearly
done up with the heat. Imagine me sitting, as I
now am, in a suit of thin muslin, with a wet towel
tied over my bead, and a fellow behind me
continually dropping cold water upon it.
Colonel 8., Dr. S., de M., and B. are
lying all about the tent in similar costume,
gasping for breath and trying to sleep. However,
none of us complain, simply- relieving ourselves
from time to time by some mild imprecation upon
niggers in general and onSepoys in particular for
the privations and sufferings which they are the
cause of. Mais le bon temps viendra, and in zhe
meanwhile I place my life in the hands of an Al-
mighty Providence, in whom I have an unbounded
trust. Our hope is that England will not forget
that her army now in India is actually keeping the
country for her until reinforcements arrive, and
that in doing so we are fighting like bulldogs, and
undergoing with cheerfulness privations and hard-
ships which musttbe experenc-Al to bo described. I
am dreadfully in want of a revolver ; no man is
safe here without one ; all those that were dispos-
able in the country have been bought up. The
Government at home would confer a great benefit
an 3 a great boon upon those who have not revol-
vers if they were to sanction an issue of them."

wrote you was our intention, and reached Mhow after
a march of 12 days, accompanied with the usual amount
of misery to which which we have been so long sub-
jected. On the Ist of August we reached the left batik
of the Nerbudde, and found the moveable column, which
consisted. of four troops, her
.Majesty's 14th Dragoons,
25th Regiment of Bombay Native Infantry, and Wool•
coomb's Battery, with a force of Madras and Bombay
Sappers, commanded by Major Boileau of the former.
With the column (which is commanded by Stewart, Bom•
bay 16th Native Infantry) we proceeded to Mhow,
where, on arriving, we found all the. Europeaninhabi•
tante under shelter of the tort. The news of our ap-
proach was the sigral for them to abandon their hiding-
place and return to their houses, those who had such,
for many bad not, the jolly Padre among the num-
ber. Confidence was at once restored, and we
had the satisfaction. of again seeing the poir people
brea be freely. This force came by Auruegabad
and Asseergarb, meting out punishment to those do
serving such at either place. Three of the wing-of the
6th Regiment of th•e Gwalior Contingent at Asseergurh
were blown away front the guns. They had incited the
company of the sth Regiment, Gwalior Contingent, at
Boorhaunpocr, distant about 12 miles from Asseergurh,
to join them, but failed. Oudan Sing, subehclar of the
company, behaved well, but it was deemed prudent to
disarm them all, and both parties are encamped here
under Scott, second in command of the 6th Gwalior
Contingent. Their final disposal seems to be with
Durand a subject of much concern, for the company of
the sth Gwalior Contingent are positively innocent as to
acts of mutiny. 250 men of the 86th Queen's j iined us
on the 6th. inst. ; and it was supposed an immediate
advance upon Indere would take place. Circumstances,
it would seem, have altered since the 6th. Holkar'is
force, hitherto in a state of open and avowed mutiny
(hearing, no doubt, of the approach of our dreaded
Europeans), hthe, it seem% returned to their allegiance,
on the promise from their chief, it is understood, that
all previous offences will be condoned ; but we surely
will not allow ourselses to be compromised in such a
a matter, nor the blood and treasure split on the Ist of
July to be so easily forgotten. Now, not a word re-
garding an advance is ever heard. The rebel remains
of the Gwalior Contingent is round about the Fort ef
Gwalior, at the solicitation, it is said, of the old demon,
the Bhazee Baet,' but for all news of this description
I mustrefer you to the papers. However, I must toll
you that a letter arrived in camp last night from B ,m-
-bay, relating that 16i) of the 27th Bombay Naive Tufa. -
try had mutinied and taken possession of the Fort at
Kolapore, that the remainder of the regiment bad
turned out on them, killing or taking prisoners the
whole—a satisfactory result, but an unfortunate cir--'
cumstance. It may be the means of deterring others
from following so bad an example. No native' offictr
higher than a havildar joined in the revolt. Barlton's
corps, 2 Cavalry, Gwalicr Contingent, hes all gone ; so
has Alexander's (let Cavalry, Gwalior Centingent).
Burlton died of cholera. Alexander and C ickhurn
both wounded. God only know 4 when peace again will
reign in Central India; I fear the day is far di--'
taut. Oh ! how thankful you must be that it pleased
Providence to release you from the trials and dangers to
which a residence in India at this crisis would necessarily
ba.ve exposed you. Would to Heaven that Iwas at home
with you ; bet it is the- duty of every Englishman to
stand by the old craft when in distress; and, el-sase God,
I shall never be found absent from the call of duty."

of the heaviest calibre) which completely command the
city of Agra and ail approaches by which assailants
coati attempt an attack.

The qitarre!s of the Sheeahs and Sunnees during the
Mohurrum F.?qiyal are far more likely to tend towards
the peace cf. the garrison than to create ararm, fir the
townspeople of their persuasions will >lave enough to do
to settle their own religious broils, without attempting
an ineffectual attack against a force prepared on all
sides to resist them.

I am, sir, your obedient servant,
Versailles, Sept. 17. CENTURION.

THE GHEE SEA VESThY AND CREMORNE
GAR DENS.

London is perhaps less favourably supplied with
the means of al fresco enjoyment than any or its
Continental neighbours. The glories of Vauxhati
have departed; and the Surrey Gardens are in that
unenviable 'condition that the Sheriff of Surrey
may at any moment close its doors against the ad-
mission of visitors. Cremorne alone is left to us,
and, if we are to credit the record of proceedings
in the Chelsea vestry, that iminaculate body
contemplate an early endeavour to deprive the
tired London cit'ze.n of the means of rational
enjoyment which he has hitherto obtained in
these gardens. That an insignificant coterie should
venture to place themselves in direct opposition
to the feelings of the great mass of inhabitatits of
the parish may ocetsion surprise, but Viet their op-
position should meet_with anytoing short of igno-
minious defeat, is not to be believed. These gar-
dens have been conducted with decorum which has
obtained for them the personal sanction of the
highest personage of the realm, while their daily
patrons have occasionally in luded some of the
leading members of the aristocracy. Teat the op-
position Ono less than a store of self-constituted
dictators should be allowed to interfere with the
legitimate enjoyment of the masses, is simply iidi-
culous ; and.the following abstract of the proceed-
ings which took place at the meeting of the Chelsea
vestry on Tuesday last is given only to show the
absurd length to which party virulence, associated
with personal hostility, may be carried :
A memorial from the so-called Ratepayers' As-
sociation of the parish, alleging that ceitain evils
arose from the late hours to which the festivities of
Cremorne were prolonged, and praying inquiry,
was presented about a month since by Mr. Dickson,
a member of the vestry. Subsequ ntly Mr. Dick-
son declared that he had presented the memorial at
the request of a friend, ithout any kuowle ige of
the merits of the case, and that personal investi-
gation having since satisfied him that many of the
allegations it cont iined were untrue; he desired to
withdraw the memorial. To this course objection
was made, and ultimately the discussion was ad-
journed until Tuesday last, when the subject was
debated before about 31) out of the 80 vestryinen of
the parish.
The question was opened by Mr. Till, who pre•
sented a memorial from a large number of his
fellow-parishioners, protesting against the em-
ployment of any portion of tee parish funds in
opposing a renewal of the licence for Cremorne.
A similar memorial Was presented. by Mr. Wal-
lace.

• Both having been receive-1,
Mr. LAURANCE tipoko at some length in favour
of opposing the renewal of the licence, ground-
ing his argument upon the alleg d &minu-
tion of Ora value of house property in tho
district, in proof of which be read a long list of
statistical roturn., and concluded by proposing, as
a resolut'on, that the renewal of the licence of Cre-
morne Gardens should ba opposed by the parish at
the ensuing session'.

Mr. Tref., m are(' an amendment. He said that
' he had no' interest, either immediate or remote, in
the matter under discussion, but he was promptA.
only by a sense of justice and common fairness to a'
person whose property had been attacked. The
reason he appeared thus publicly in taking up the
case of Mr. Simpson was because be considered that
gentleman had not been treated with the fairness
which every individual had a right to expect when
his character and property were at stake. (Hear,
heir.) He thought, with reference to the memorial
fir.t presented from the retepayers' Association, that
the first duty oftite vestry, if they took action upon
it at all, way to act in accordance with the prayer of
the memorial, and as a preliminary measure to in-
stitute an inquiry into the allegations. lie gathered
from Mr Laurance that ati inquiry had been made.
He (Mr. Till) had attended most of t• e meetings
on this subject, and he was quite at a loss to know
when that inquiry took place. Mr. Laurance, es
an individual member of the board, had certainly
taken great pains to obtain a mass of statisics, and
it could scarcely be imagined that any other mem-
ber of the vestry could have acted with equal zeal
on the part of Mr. Simpson. Mr. Laurance had,
no doubt, acted iu this matter with the beet inten-
tions; but it was too much to expect an equal
aincunt of zeal on the part of any individual con,
nected with the board, in attempting to disprove
the position which Mr. Laurance had taken. In
the next place be would remark that inasmuch as
all the inemodalis's asked for was an inquiry, he
thought that step
,ought to be taken before they
came to any final resolution to oppose the
hearse of Cremore, and si end the parish funds
that purpose. (Hear, hear.) It was a most
serious matter, and involved a great principle=
(hear)--for if this vestry had a right to interfere
with Mr. Simpson's license in the way proposed they
had an equal right to interfere with every license in
the parish. All licensed establishments were under
the special jurisdiction of the police authorities—
and if Mr Simpson committed any violation of the
law, the proper quarter for it to be r: ported to was
the police magistrates, and, if proved, they would
undoubtedly flue hint for his misconduct, and the
matter would not rest there ; for when Mr. Simp-
son applied for a renewal of his power., tee parties
who Lad lodged the complaint against him would
be there to make the representation to the licensing
magistrates, and if the• Bench considered the police
magistrate just lied its inflicting the fine they would
in all prob,bi;ity susp,nd the license. (Hear.) This
would have been a better course than that which
the board had chosen to adopc ; and his opinion on
the subject rem die d unchanged, notwithstanding
the decision, of the board oa a former occasion.
Now, with reference to the arguments advanced, as
fir as he hal heard them, they went rot to the
limitation of Cremorne, but to its entire extinction.
It was e azy to say they. only wanted the gardens to
be closed at 12 o'clock, but if they had evidence
before them to show that the immorality was as
great as had been represented with reference to the
s duction of young men from honesty and young
women from virtue, they must all be qui• e tawa.'e
that thtse courses were not confined to any hours,
nor restricted to any places where the disposition,
to such courses ex te.d. (Hear, hear.) Therefore.
when the pl.a of morality was advanced, he did not
think it applied to the limitation of the hours, but
to the extinction of the gardens. (Hear) With re-
gard to the.empty houses, he thought there were
other causeadhan those mentioned. There were the
gas works, chemical factories, the drainage into the
Thames, high rent., and exorbitant paroadid ra
In his own street (Stanley street), out of 58 houses,
within the last month there had been 17 empty.
Cremorne had not exercised any influence in depopu-
lating that locality. 'He had one other observation
o make with ref,rence to the injustice dene to Mr.
Simpson in calling upon him to close his gardens
at twelve o' lock tailless they called upon the
public-houses iu that vicinity to close at the same
hour. It was an act of injuet'ce to expect Mr.
Simpson to lay out 30,0001. or 40,0901. to cater for
the public amusement a.id recreation, and then to
call upon him to close at an hour when he seeps his
greatest reward for his spirited enterprise. The fact
was it would only be driving the people out of the
gardens to a few public-houses in the vicinity. He
had yet to learn that the morals of the public would
be better proteced in the close atmosphere of tt:e
smoking-room of a public-house than in a place
where they could enjoy the free air of heiven—
(heir—and he had also yet to learn that there were
more contaminating influences in an establishment
like Cremorne tiara there were in the cider-cellars
of the metropolis. (Hear.) One other circumstance
be would allude to with reference to the term of
duration of this monster nuisance. The season of
Cremorne was 16 weeks, that was 112 days. If
they deducted 16 Saturday nights when the gar-
dens must be closed'at 12 o'clock, and the same
Humber of Sunday nights when they must be do aid
at 11 o'clock, and taking further an average of 16
or 18 we nights during the season, when they were
closed by 12 o'clock owing to the unfavourable stat e
of the weather, there were left at the most 61 days,
or little more than two months out of the 12 on
which the state of things complained of could ob-
tain. With these observations he begged t move
" That this board do appoint a committee for the
purpose of instituting an inquiry into the manage-
ment of Cremotne. '
Mr. CORNELL", clerk to the ne.gistrates of the
Kensington division, seconded Mr. 'Till's amend-
ment, supporting its adoption in a powerful anj
argument ttite ipeee.
Mr. LEGG supported the amendment on pu'ilie
grounds. He thought no sufficien, reia-cns had b en
shown for instruc ing the solieitor, to oppose fiat
licenses, and in so serious a matterthere ought, at
least, to be inquiry:
Mr. DICKSON wished, as folly as possible, to re-
cal the expressions and criticism lie I, ail made use
of on a former cccasiore Although he presewed
the memorial from the Ratepayers' AMMO a; 0' he
WA; riot aware o' is con ents rat the tee, undt.r-
to to te do so, eaal was not present at the meeting
.adop !ed. He had visited Creator !AC
Si .ec the last discussion of the sub set, and was

satisfied from his own observation that the conduct
of the visi ors in the gardens was irreproachable.
Mr. WALLACE supported the amendment, and
said he‘was certain Mr. Sinip-on was desirous of
doing everything con si,ten t with his duty to remove
Any cninplaints that were specially made to him,
and he believed if a committee of the vestry waited
upon that gentleman
,he would give them every
a isfaction they could possihy require—(bear, hear)
—and he I,elieved he was ready to sacrifice a.por-
tion of his own interests rather than have any mis-
understanding with the parish. He should there-
fore support the amendment.

After a few observations from Mr. FINCH, who
spy ke in favour of the resolution,
Mr. LAURANCE replied upon the discussion, after
which,
The CHAIRMAN proceeded to take a show of
hands upon the amendment, when there appeared
8 in favour and 10 against it.
Upon the < riginal motion there were 18 for and
7 ay,ainst, and the same was declared to be carried.
Mr. LAURANCE insinuated that in the event of
not carrying his point at the sessions for granting
the music license, he had prepared another resolu-
tion to the effect that the spirit license Should be
opposed at the sessions in March.
The CHAIRMAN suggested that that matter should
remain over, to which -_ _

Mr. LAURANCE acceded, and the proceedings
terminated.

Country Markets.

. LIVERPOOL—SEPT. 78.
There was a thin attendance at market to-day, and
with a moderate extent of transactions. Old wheat ITO
slightly easier in price, whiht Irish new declined 2d to 3d
per bushel on Tuesday's prices. Of ohl oats and oatmeal
we were never so barn before. American red wheat SS 4d
to 8s 10d, white up to lOs 2d. New oatmeal 35s to 375
per 2iolbs. Indian corn 37s 6d to 42s per 4801bs.

WAKEFIELD—SEPT. 18.
There was not much doing at to-day's market in wheat.
Fine new and fresh old were is to 2s lower, and other
sorts moved off: slowly, at a further decline. New barley
was firm, and other articles without change.
Average prices of grain—Wboat, 50s 3d ; barley, 446
id ; oats, 27s lAd ; beans, 47s 13d ; peas, 43s ltd
rye, —s. Od.