The Sun.
London, England, 1861-07-05 00:00:00

VOLUNTEER INSPECTION IN THE PARKS,

Mr. B. OSBORNE begged to draw the attention of the
First Commissioner of the Board of Works to a circum-
stance that, in his opinion, was of some importance.
The volunteers were in the habit of being inspected in the
park at 5 o'clock in the afternoon, when there was a large
number of equestrians and persons driving in the parks.
The firing commenced about half-past 5 o'clock, and con-
tinued till 7 o'elock, much to the inconvenience of stout
gentlemen on horseback, and to the fright of ladies in car-
riages. There was an order at the Horse Guards by the late
Duke of Wellington that there should be no firing by the
soldiers except at a certain distance from the main road,
and he thought the same regulation should be enforced
with respect to the volunteers.
Mr. COWPER said that the subject would be considered,
and instructions would be given to prevent the annoyance
complained of being repeated.
TETUAN AND MOROCCO. _

Sir R. PEEL asked the question of which he had given
notice in the early part of the evening.
Lord J. RUSSELL stated that, in consequence of the
Moorish Government having stated to the Spanish Govern-
ment that they would not carry out the treaty, arrange-
ments had been made by the latter Government, but they
were opea to any overtures from the Moorish Government
that would lead to an amicable arrangement.
PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES.

Mr. SCULLY moved for a select committee to inquire
into the best mode of securing authorised or accurate re-
ports of the debates of the house. The hon. and learned
gentleman then proceeded, in a speech replete with humour,
to point out the practice that prevailed with news-
papers in reporting speeches according to their respective
interests. He read a letter u hich he had received from
some anonymous writer, which commenced, " My dear
Scully,—Pray, do not make such an ass of yourself.
(Laughter.) We are all laughing at your absurd speech
here, and the only excuse we can make for you is, that you
are not right in your head." (Great laughter.) He did not
know whether the opinion of the writer was that of the
house, but it certainly was not his own. (Increased
laughter.)

Mr. BASS asked the hon. and learned gentleman whe-
ther he considered that the speech he had just made was
calculated to add to his own repute or to the dignity and
character of the house? (Cheers.) Within the last week
the hon. and learned gentleman had been reported 15 times,
and he had actually spoken at least twice as often. If other
hon. members were to take the same liberties with the time
of the house it would be impossible to get through the busi-
ness of the session. It was absolutely necessary to curb
the present license of too much speaking.
Mr. S. FITZGERALD, referring to Lord J. Russell's
observations respecting Spain and Morocco, said he hoped to
hear from some colleague of the noble lord, that he had ad-
dressed a vigorous and earnest remonstrance to the Spanish
Government against any permanent occupation of any part
of the Moorish territory. This country ought not to permit
the permanent occupation by Spain of an inch of that ter-
ritory.

Lord J. RUSSELL said he did not think it would be be-
coming in the British Government to say that the Moorish
Government, having signed a treaty, were not bound by the
obligations of that treaty. It was'the duty of the British
Government to endeavour to arrange terms between Spain
and Morocco, and not by dictation to bring on a renewal of
the war.

The SPEAKER then left the chair, and the house weal
into committee of

SUPPLY.
On the vote of £3,035 for British embassy houses abroad,
Mr. WILLIAMS denounced the wasteful and extrava-
gant expenditure in respect of the charges included in this
item.

Mr. COWPER defended the vote.
Col. SYKES said the British Legation at Pekin now
occupied a building extending over 4t acres, the whole of
which was in a state of dilapidation. He did not see any
charge for repairs there.
The sum of £2,982 was agreed to to defray the expenses
of the consular offices, hospital, and prison at Constanti-
nople, and the sum of £53,000 for the formation of the ap-
proaches to the new bridge at Westminster.
£3,914 for the expenses connected with the building of
the new Westminster-bridge.
£8,200 for public offices in connection with the General
Register-house, Edinburgh.
£11,200 for the erection of an industrial museum, Edin-
burgh—were also agreed.
On the vote of £6,870 for the expenses of enlarging, re-
pairing and altering King's College and Marischal College,
Aberdeen,
Colonel SYKES and Mr. LESLIE spoke in favour of the
charge, but asked for further explanation.
Mr. CO %VPER said the works to be proceeded with were
contemplated in 1858. They would consist of renovation
and repairs. The south wing of King's College was in a
dilapidated state, and would require to be rebuilt.
The vote was agreed to.
On the vote of £BOO for defraying the expenses of the
erection of a stained glass window in Glasgow Cathedral,
Lord DUNKELLIN asked upon what ground the public
were called upon to supply an east window to Glasgow
Cathedral. The windows had, be understood, been erected
by voluntary subscription ; and to call upon the house to
give this sum would open up a very large questjon. Was it
intended to establish by this vote a principle.for granting
sums for works of this kind ?
Mr. COWPER said Glasgow Cathedral was public pro-
perty. It was a portion of that property from which the
state derived a revenue; and her Majesty being in posses-
sion of the property, she joined other persons in a subscrip-
tion set on foot for the purpose of ornamenting the cathe-
dral. He had often heard that property had its duties as
well as its rights. The house had already agreed to expend
£4OO, but as that sum was found insufficient he now asked
for an additional £4OO, the former sum having been re-
turned into the Exchequer. It would be a disgrace to the
Crown to be the only party connected with this cathedral
who did not subscribe in this work of ornamentation—in-
deed, he might say not only as regarded this cathedral, but
others in the kingdom.
Mr. W. WILLIAMS complained of the public being
called upon to vote money for such a purpose. The right
hon. gentleman was not content with the former vote of
£4OO, but he now required it to be doubled.
Captain STACPO OLE asked how much revenue was de-
rived from the lands of Glasgow Cathedral ?
Mr. H. LEWIS thought that if her Majesty was anxious
to subscribe to this work of art she would do so without
coming to the House of Commons for the money.
Mr. W. WILLIAMS asked for the amount of the income
derived from this property and the source of it. (Hear.)
Mr. COWPER said that at the Reformation this
church property came into the hands of the state and re-
mained there, and the income was paid into the consolidation
fund. (Cries of—" How much ?") The amount was stated in
the annual report of the Woods and Forests. The revenue
did not go to the Sovereign. (Cries of—" How much is it ?")
The committee then divided—
For the vote 159 •
Against it 5l
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The vote was consequently carried.
On the vote of £413 to defray the expenses of the main
drainage of the metropolis,
Alderman SALOMON'S asked for an explanation of the
vote.

Mr. COWPER said that this sum was put into the votes
Mr. Simpson and Capt. Galto
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Lord J. MANNERS said he thought a moral t
. be
drawn from this vote. There was now a scheme relating to
the Thames embankment before the public. He sincerely
hoped the Government would not interfere with the Metro-
politan Board of Works in this matter, as they had done
formerly, thereby putting the country to an expense of which
this vote was the last item.
The vote was agreed to.
The vote of £3,000 for the National Gallery, Dublin, was
agreed to.
On the vote of £160,000 for harbours of refuge,
Mr. BAXTER said he rose to point out to the committee
what he considered to be the greatest blot on theseesti-
mates. (Hear.) He alluded to the great and ridiculous ex-
penditure which was going on at Alderney—a work the
more humiliating because it was being carried on in the
sight of our neighbours across the Channel. It appeared
from a plan which he held in his hand, entitled " A Sketch
at Alderney," that in the year 1848 a plan had been pro •
posed involving a cost of £620,000 ; in 1850 it was increased
to £BBO,OOO. In 1854 an extension was proposed at an esti-
mated cost of £1,300,000. In 1857 another scheme, marked
yellow in the plan, was proposed at a cost of £1,850,000;
and finally, in 1858, the most costly of all, a scheme, marked
red, was proposed at a cost of £2,000,000. He had been
further informed that a still more extensive plan, of which
the particulars were not yet known, had been proposed to
the Government. He wished to know whether it was true,
as he had been informed, that stones were thrown into the
sea at Alderney in 150 feet of water, without any measure-
ment or check being made. He should also like to be in-
f9rmed whether an officer of great experience had not re-
ported to the Government that the best thing to be donee
yith Alderney, in the `case of a war unfortunately breaking
out, vioula be to blow it up altogether. (gear'.) Was it
not the fact that we were in a position to render it probable I