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ELECTION INTELLIGENCE.

BURY ST. EDMUNDS.

The election of a member for this borough to sup:

ply the vacancy occasioned by the elevation of Earl
Jermyn to the Marquisate of Bristol, took place
yesterday in the Guildhall. The Mayor (Mr. G. P.
Clay) presided as returning officer.
Mr. H. J. OAKES proposed Lord A. Hervey as a
fit and proper person tQ represent the borough ; Mr.
C. C. SMITH seconded the nomination ; and no other
candidate being proposed, the Mayor declared the
noble lord duly elected.
Lord A. HERVEY, in returning thanks, said he
was opposed to organic changes in the constitu-
tion. Those who wished to introduce violent
and fundamental changes in our institutions
might profit by the example of a neighbouring.
country, where the germs of constitutional govern-
ment were established and enjoyed in former years.
But if he held extreme opinions, if he wished to see
the monarchy upset and a republic established, he
should rejoice to see the Conservative party reso-
lutely refusing every reasonable concession and
change. The true policy of the Conservative party
was to grant every reform which could reasonably
be demanded, to endeavour to extend the trade and
commerce of the country, and to promote the educa-
tion of the lower orders, and the general prosperity
of all classes of the people. The first and most im-
portant question upon which he should be called to
vote would be a measure of Parliamentary Reform.
He had stated the difficulty which he felt in ac-
knowledging the leadership of any individual in the
present divided state of the House of Commons;
but he had no hesitation in declaring that he did
not mean to enlist himself as one of the followers of
Mr. Bright. With respect to the' Government mea-
sure of reform, he could not but entertain very
grave objections to portions of it. He could not
help thinking that it was unwise to destroy the
distinction which had hitherto existed between the
county and borough franchise. He should have
preferred leaving the county franchise a •little
higher than it was proposed to make it—say £2O
—and reducing the borough franchise. He thought
also it was most unwise to propose to disfranchise
county voters living within the precincts of a
borough. But while expressing himself in opposi-
tion to these details of the measure he felt bound
to say that he regretted the sort of combination
which he fancied he saw existing to throw the bill
out on its second reading. The bill contained many
provisions very similar to those of Lord J. Russell
under Lord Aberdeen's Government ; it contained
also clauses to which no reasonable man would en-
tertain any great objection ; and he (Lord A. Her-
vey) could see no reason which ought to prevent the
house from entering upon a fair discussion of the
measure and going into committee upon it. He
had been asked in the course of his canvass
whether he was in favour of the ballot, and with
regard to that question he thought that in every
department of the state publicity and responsibility
were the very essence of our constitution, and that
to this we owed probably much of our greatness and
national prosperity. He could not, therefore, con-
sent to depart from the principle of publicity in
elections of members of Parliament, for he did not
believe that the ballot would have the effect which
its supporters anticipated. The noble lord, having
expressed his intention to endeavour to discharge
his duties diligently and conscientiously, proposed
a vote of thanks to the mayor, which was carried
by acclamation, and the proceedings terminated.

that if the ballot were adopted their occupation
would be gone. He had heard parties whom he had
canvassed say to him—" Mr. Brown, you know my
heart is with you, but my bread is at stake, and I
must vote against you." (Hear, and groans.) After
some further remarks Mr. Brown concluded amidst
cheers and groans.
Sir E. LECIIMERE essayed to address the meet-
ing, but the crowd, prevented his being heard.
The MAYOR then took the show of hands, and
declared it to be in favour of Mr. Brown.
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A poll was then demanded on behalf of Mr.
Lygon, and appointed for Tuesday.
As the two parties were leaving the hustings an
attack was made upon Mr. Lygon by the " roughs"
on the other side, who, but for the prompt rescue
afforded by the police, would have got him down
and maltreated him.
The town is in an excited state.

THE GOVERNMENT REFORM BILL.

ST. PANCRAS.

The adjourned public meeting of the inhabitants
of St. Pancras was held last evening in the large
hall of the vestry, King's-road, Camden-town, to
consider the bill introduced by her Majesty's
ministers for the reform of the representation of the
people in Parliament.
D. E. CAMERON, Esq., churchwarden, presided,
and was supported by the Right Hon. Sir B. Hall,
Bart., and Edwill James, Esq., the representatives
of the borough, who were most enthusiastically
received. _ _ _

Mr. Wyld, M.P., was also present. The platform
was thronged by the leading reformers in the
locality. Lady Hall occupied a seat in the capacious
gallery, which, as well as the Vestry-hall, was
crowded to excess.
Mr. PLAW, the -vestry clerk, • having read the
notice convening the meeting,
The CHAIRMAN briefly opened the proceedings.
Mr. T. Ross, a member of the vestry, rose to
move the first resolution, and denounced the so-
called Tory Reform Bill as a great juggle. (Hear,
hear.) Lord Derby and Mr. Disraeli had thought
they were going to humbug the people, but they
had already found out their mistake. They had
stated that working men might be qualified to vote
and could so qualify by placing £6O in the savings
bank. (Oh, oh.) He (Mr. Ross) had some expe-
rience as a journeyman mechanic, and always found
it quite difficult enough to purchase the little shoes
without putting by £6O to qualify him for a vote.
They wanted measures, not men, and he felt that
he was surrounded by many who could more clearly
place before them the real sentiments of the work-
ing classes. Mr. Ross concluded by moving the
following resolution :—" That this meeting having
carefully examined the miscalled Reform Bill in-
troduced by her Majesty's Government, is of opinion
that it is unsatisfactory and delusive, as, instead of
extending, it narrows the franchise, destroys the
most independent and ancient of our freehold votes,
leaves untouched the small and corrupt nomination
boroughs,. and is unjust, as it fails to recognise the
rights of the industrious classes, and as such de-
serves our most strenuous opposition."
Mr. BAINBRIDGE seconded the resolution, de-
nouncing the proposed Government scheme, as it
did not provide for the prevention of intimidation
and bribery, triennial parliaments, and a great ex-
tension of the franchise. (Hear, hear.) For these
and other reasons he felt that the people should
resist it to the utmost. They had asked for bread,
and had received a stone—they had demanded fish,
and had received a serpent. (Hear, hear.) The
crowded meeting before him, notwithstanding the
inclement weather, was the best and most tangible
denial to the assertion of a daily paper—that the
people did not require reform. (Oh, oh.)
The resolution was put from the chair, and car-
ried amidst loud applause.
Mr. F. M. HUDSON then read the following reso-
lution :—" That any measure of reform not having
for its fundamental principles shortening the dura-
tion of Parliament, the destruction of rotten
boroughs, the re-distribution of seats, a great ex-
tension of the suffrage in counties and boroughs,
with the protection of the voter by means
of the ballot, is unworthy of, and shall not receive
the support, and demands the strenuous opposition
of all true reformers." It was only last year that
the Government agreed to abolish the•property qua-
lification, but immediately afterwards they legalised
election expenses ; so that, however talented a man
might be, he was almost sure to be beaten by any
Mr. Long Purse. (Hear.) For these and other
reasons he urged upon them to give their strongest
opposition to the futile proposition of the Derby
Government ; nothing short of an extension of the
franchise, the protection of the ballot, by -which
alone the working man could expect to get that to
which he was so justly entitled, should satisfy
them.

Mr. JONES, in seconding the motion, denounced
the statement lately put forth by a daily journal
that the working man would prefer an admission
to the gallery of the Adelphi than to possess the
county franchise. (Hear, hear.) He denounced
this asn base libel upon the people of this country.

(Hear.)
Mr. ROBINSON proposed that the resolution
should be amended by the insertion of a clause in
favour of manhood suffrage.
Mr. CUDDBN seconded the resolution as amended,
which was put and carried.
The next resolution was attempted to be moved
by several members of the vestry amidst loud cries
of " Who shut the hall ?" in allusion to the refusal
of the vestry hall for a meeting of Mr. James' sup-
porters at the late contest. Order having been
restored.

Mr. GOODWIN came to the rescue, and proposed
the following resolution :—" That the foregoing
resolutions be embodied in the petition now pre-
paring for the House of Commons, and that the
same be signed by the chairman on behalf of this
meeting, and entrusted to the borough members for
presentation."
Mr. PARKER, seconded- the resolution, which was
unanimously adopted.
Sir B. HALL rose amidst applause to address the
meeting, and said, on a recent occasion, in conse-
quence of the then paucity of attendance in that hall,
and the intention of the Government to introduce a
Reform Bill, he had suggested an adjournment ; the
meeting had taken the course suggested, and he was
present to state to them publicly his opinion. But
previous to doing so he wished to allude to circum-
stances of a personal character, which, under ordi-
nary circumstances, he would not feel called upon
to say one word. The right hon. gentleman then
proceeded to refer to the circumstances attending
the retirement of Lord Ebrington from the repre-
sentation of the borough, to show the groundless-
ness of the charge of his having attempted in any
way to influence the election of his (Lord Ebring-
ton s) successor. The right hon. baronet then went
on to say that in his opinion the so•called Reform
Bill introduced by Government would never reach
its third reading. (Hear, hear.) The more truth-
ful title of the bill would be, to disfranchise some
100,000 voters and to enfranchise certain places in
England and Wales. At the same time no one
could deny that there was one feature in the bill
worthy the support of every true reformer, namely,
the extension of the county franchise ; but they
were not indebted to the Government for that, as
it was proposed long ago by his hon. friend Mr.
Locke King. The effect of the clause referred to
in the bill would be that of 500,000 voters now on
the county register 100,000 would be struck off.
(Hear, hear.) Another effect of this bill would be
to place the whole of the boroughs in the hands of
the landed interest. What plea had the Govern-
ment for disfranchising men because they worked
in dockyards ? It would be said they were in the
employ of men placed above them by Government ;
their being so he would then say, give them the
ballot. (Cheers.) The savings bank qualification
clause was too preposterous to be seriously enter-
tained. They might judge of its working by one
specimen. In the savings bank of the borough of
Newport there were ninety-nine £6O depositors ; of
this number 40 were females, 39 already possessed
votes, 19 who had votes in the borough—making
in all, 98 ; so that here was a clear gain of one vote.
(Cheers and laughter.) After thirty years' experi-
ence, he believed that the first basis of a true re-
form bill would consist in the disfranchisement of
close nomination boroughs, and the extension of the
franchise in both counties and boroughs, and above
all the repeal of the • obnoxious and ambiguous
rate-paying clause. (Hear, hear.) Thirty years
ago he gave great offence by inserting on his banner
these three words, " Vote by ballot ;" in any future
reform bill lie trusted to see this principle intro-
duced. (Loud applause.) The right lion. baronet,
who was frequently applauded, concluded by stating
that it was his intention to give every opposition in
his power to the bill before the home, which he
firmly believed would be thrown out upon its
second reading. (Hear, hear.) It was one of the
most miserable measures of reform that could be
devised by any Government. When it met the fate
he prognosticated he sincerely hoped that the Go-
verment would take the course they threatened,
and go to the country. He, for one, on the occasion

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his duty faithfully to the constituency for a great
many years as one of their representatives. (Cheers.)
Mr. EDWIN JAMES, who was loudly applauded,
said that his prognostications, made to them before
he had the honour of being returned as their
member, were about being realised. As he had
anticipated, the Reform Bill was a sham, and it
should have his most determined opposition. No
measure of reform which deprived large numbers of
the working classes, who produce the wealth of the
country, of the franchise would satisfy him. The
intention of the bill appeared to be to place the
power in the hands of the landowners, to the
detriment of the working man. Thus a landlord
might give a gamekeeper or tenant a little quantity
of land, and under the head of land and tenements
he would be really qualifying his own tenants,
whose votes he could command. Whilst the bill
proposed to disfranchise dock labourers, it would
give a vote to persons in the civil or military
service pensioned to the amount of £2O a year,
than which nothing could be more preposterous.
Again, it was proposed to give the franchise to the
lawyer. (Laughter.) Where, he would ask, could
they find a lawyer who had not a £lO house ? He
must be an uncommonly honest one if he did not
possess that qualification. (Hear, hear, and laugh-
ter.) The parson and the schoolmaster were also
protected by the new bill ; but where, he would ask,
would be the chance of success of a liberal candidate
in the hands of these two functionaries ? (Hear,
hear.) After ridiculing the absurdity of the voting-
paper system, the learned gentleman said he looked
upon the machinery of the bill as too absurd to be
carried out. This country had nothing to fear
from, the working classes by an extension of the'
franchise. He had never heard any unfair or un•
just attack made upon the aristocracy by the
working classes, whom he believed to be devotedly
attached to the constitution of the country, and
whilst they bore the burthens and created the
wealth of the country, no class was more closely
attached to its institutions, or devoted to the crown
than the working class. The hon. member, after
offering a few words of explanation, in which he
acquitted his right hon. colleague of any attempt at
dictation at the recent election, resumed his seat.

Mr. WYLD, M.P., moved a vote of thanks to the
borough members, which having been duly acknow-
ledged, upon the motion of Sir B. HALL, seconded
by Mr. E. JAMES, a vote of thanks was given to
the chairman, and the meeting separated.