The Sun.
London, England, 1861-10-11 00:00:00

TELEGIeAPII TO INDIA.

A writer in a contemporary says :—" I request
permission to occupy a small portion of your valu-
able space upon a subject of great national interest
—the telegraphic communication between Great
Britain and India, China, and the Australasian
colonies.

" I shall not waste the time of your readers by
discussing the past proceedings connected with the
telegraph by the Red Sea further than to state that
her Majesty's Government having given the gua-
rantee, and, after doubts of its validity having been
raised by the law officers of the Crown, having ob•

tained an act of Parliament to confirm and carry
out the original intention of the contracting parties,
the public confidence has been so much shaken as
to have materially prejudiced the original under-
taking, irrespective of the injury inflicted upon it
by the failure of so many sections of the cable, which
might otherwise have been repaired and restoyed
without exceeding the capital origizially provided.
One result is the indisposition of her Majesty's
Government to proceed further with the undertak-
ing as a Government question.
"Now it is impossible that this country can stand
still while France, Russia, and other countries are
extending their telegraphs with all the speed they
can command. It is not the characteristic of Eng-
lishmen to abandon what they have once delibe-
rately, and upon conviction, undertaken. Diffi-
culties afford no excuse for apathy and indifference.
The communication is indispensable, and practicable
with due and rightly-directed exertions ; and I now
write with a view to apprise those of your readers
who are interested in the subject that a proposal has
been submitted to her Majesty's Government by
responsible persons, who are prepared to undertake
the restoration of the cable without either guarantee
or pecuniary assistance from the Government, and
that, assuming that the matter is promptly decided,
the restoration of telegraphic communication upon
the eastern division of the line will probably be
completed before March next.
" It is assumed that so soon as Parliament meets
authority will be applied for to consolidate the
capital of the existing company. The most experi-
enced electrical engineers have been consulted, and
reports from Sir Charles Bright, Mr. Latimer Clark,
and from Mr. Brunton, the late superintendent of
the Red Sea Telegraph Company, have been re•
ceived in confirmation of the grounds upon which
a successful issue to the operations is expected.
" The results, if successful, are of so great im-
portance that the policy of using every exertion to
accomplish the object will scarcely be questioned,
and the plans proposed of repairing the eastern
division first will allow of the experiment being
tried with the least cost, while the completion of
the through communication will afterwards be
effected by the use of land lines on a great portion
of the Egyptian and Abyssinian coast. The
poe-
session of alternative lines by Asiatic Turkey and
the Red Sea will alone render the country indepen-
dent of all contingencies.

"If prompt measures are taken the public will
within a very few months receive daily telegrams
from all parts of ludia.

SEPARATION OF AGED COUPLES IN WORKITOI7ES.
—At a meeting of the guardians of the Greenwich Union,
held last evening—Mr. B. Carter chairman—Mr. Baseett,
one of the Woolwich guardians, moved, " That a commit tee
be appointed to consider and report what arrangements can
be made for enabling married couples in the workhouse,
both of whom are over 60 years of age, to live with each
other, as the 23d section of the Act 10th and 11th Victoria,
cap. 109, declares it to be illegal to compel such married
persons to live apart." Mr. Ellis seconded the motion,
which was supported by several members. Mr—Maslen
expressed his opinion that if it wore needed, he could obtain
by voluntary subscriptions among the ratepayers sufficient
money to pay the whole expense of providing
apartments. The motion; on being put to the Nice, "
carried utuziraosly. mutable
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Sir,—l observe in your paper of yes ayt,.,t 'e--11" t)4
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article on the Armstrong Gun, copied ott, :-- . 4,45,
2hechanies' Magazine, and, as you have ma . air' '-ri.:. esV
subject of comment, lam induced to point out £ Al. g
misstatements made by the writer in the Magazine,
and also to offer some general explanations on the
points to which you refer.
The allegations, you say, "take a distinct and
specific form." It is asserted that, under the direc-
tion of the Ordnance Select Committee, a heavy gun
was recently tried to test rapidity of firing, that
four vent pieces were destroyed in 50 rounds, and
that the time occupied was eight hours. It is true
that a 40-pounder gun was last week tried at Shoe-
buryness for the above purpose by the committee,
and that 50 rounds were fired from it, but the time
occupied was only 57 minutes, and no vent piece was
broken or injured. The gun remained perfectly sere.
viceable at the close of the experiment, and the
metal did not become unduly heated as was alleged.
I will add that the time occupied in loading and
running up the gun was only 25 seconds per round,
the remainder being spent in laying the gun, which
was done with such effect that the target was rarely
missed, and had three times to be changed in eon-
sequence of being knocked over or destroyed.

A somewhat similar experiment with a 100-
pounder gun was subsequently commenced; but not
finished while I was present, and, althwigh I have
not yet heard the result, I feel assured that had any
failure occurred it would have been communicated
to me. I know of no other trials of heavy guns lately
may' by thr, committee to test rapidity of firing.
allegation concerns the shell. It is said
that 40,000 shells stored on the wharf at Woolwich
are undergoing an exfoliation of the had from the
iron, so obvious as to be apparent on the slightest
examination. In answer, I may observe that the
attention of the Ordnance Select Committee and of
the Superintendent of the Chymical Department in
the Arsenal has been of late especially directed to
the condition of these shells and that they have
been found free from deterioration. A report made
on the subject states that the appearance of rust on
the leaden covering of some of these shells had given
rise to the idea that oxidation of the iron was going
forward, but that it was found to arise from small
particles of iron filings which, in the rolling of the
shells upon the floor of the workshops, had become
imbedded in the lead and stained the surface by
rusting.
As to leaded projectiles not admitting of use over
troops without the risk of casualties, the groundless-
ness of the objection has been repeatedly shown.
The simple fact is that the shell on bursting proves
more effective if the lead be not too adhesive, but
the lead may be made to hold with any degree of
tenacity that may be required.
With regard to " the important alterations" that
are said to have so far " regenerated" the 12-
pounder Armstrong gun that " the inventor himself
will hardly be able to recognise his own offspring,"
these are set forth in the following terms, which
would lead uninformed persons to believe that the
changes almost involved a new gun :—" The breech
tangent sight (the writer states) has to be altered
from steel to gun metal, and from a rectangular to
a hexagonal form, the upper portion being at the
same time completely remodelled, including the
leaf, crosshead, horizontal and vertical verniers,
elevating and deflecting screws. The ratchet has
undergone considerable improvement. The trun-
nion sight has been remodelled, while at the same
time it is secured to the body of the gun, instead
of being let through the trunnion. Considerable
improvement has been made in the dispart sight."
Now, every word of this applies to the sights, and
simply amounts to this—that I have improved their
Construction.

The writer proceeds to state that " a change has
been effected in the elevating eye." If it has, it is
of so unimportant a nature that my memory fails to
recall it. He goes on to say, " the lever and tappet
pins have been altered." I confess to using split
pins instead of solid ones, if that be worthy of
notice. The next two items are a climax. It is
gravely brought forward in proof of my changes
that the lubricating wad is in future to be put in-
side instead of outside the cartridge, and that a
piece of string is to be attached to the shell plugs
for convenience of lifting.
The truth of the matter is that the 12. pounder
gun to which these remarks apply has undergone
no alteration whatever in form or dimensions since
its first introduction.

You remark that the vent piece appears to be a
weak point. This is perfectly true, but the weak-
ness is one of construction, not of principle. In
determining the material and pattern of the vent
piece I have had to rely upon the experience
afforded by specimen guns ; but it is only by ob-
serving the regular course of practice on an
extended scale that the liabilities due to manu-
factute and service become apparent. Thus, steel
vent pieces which had endured trial of great
severity failed under ordinary use. Wrought•iron
has proved a much more suitable material, and
there is no difficulty in increasing the strength of
wrought-iron vent pieces to any extent by adding
thickness, the only restraint being the considera-
tion of weight. Up to the time of the recent experi-
ments on board the Trusty no instance of the failure
of a wrought-iron vent piece had been reported,
although they had been extensively used, nor has
any such failure of wrought-iron yet occurred in
the instance of the 100-pounder gun. There is
every reason to believe that the breaking of the
vent pieces in the Trusty experiments arose from
special causes, and I have no doubt that by a very
moderate increase of thickness, and by improved
manufacture, as well as by elongating the cartridge,
so as to make it occupy the whole length of the
chamber, the liability to fail will be entirely ob-
viated.

It is impossible that a system of rifled breech-
loading ordnance, with new forms of projectiles and
fuses, can be at once brought to full perfection in all
sizes of guns. The amount of detail involved in
such a system can hardly be realised, and it is not
surprising that some points remain incomplete. For
instance, I am at this moment anxiously engaged
in settling points of detail connected with the use
cf cups for arresting the escape of gas from the
100-pounder gun. Nothing but a little time and
experiment is needed for this purpose, but in the
meanwhile some inconvenience must arise.
As to inquiry, I cannot have the slightest objcc•
tion to it; but the fact is that the whole subject,
even to the minutest detail, is, and always has been,
subject to the control of the Ordnance Select Com-
mittee, who are fully acquainted with every par-
ticular.

I think I have now adverted to every point which
has been raised, and, so far as the 7ilnCS is con-
cerned, fairly and temperately raised. I will only
add that I cannot continue a controversy which I
should not have entered upon in this instance but
for the prominence given to the subject by your
article.---I am, Sir, your obedient servant,
W. G. ARMSTRONG.
London, Oct. 10.

A CO-OPERATIVE SOCIETY FINED SEVEN
POUNDS FOE FALSE SCALES AND WEWIITS.-011 Wed-
nesday, at the Rochdale Police court, Hugh Bamford,
manager of the Brickfield Co-operative Store, appeared to
answer a charge of having in use at the store, two pairs of
scales out of balance, and 11 weights light. The case was
proved by policeman Wilkinson, who stated that there was
not one weight on the premises in proper order. Bamford
said that the scales had been examined every fortnight at
Cie old premises, hut this duty had been s:)rnewhat neg•-•
leetA Eitice they entered the new premises. The weights
had all been adjusted in May. (To the Chairman, Mr.
Chadwick)—We have weighed all sorts of goods with these
weight:l.—After some severe remarks from other magis-
trates the Chairman said, " We shall, for the scales,com'iet
.—At the close of the Fal-
kirk highest penalty, 1.:5 and costs; and for the defective
necessary.r wo think it
dealer
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from Northumberland, who
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over
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where
became
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rhkaiatbrakebTrerye“nsmtar engagedketm
and
in tow with some ladies, who robbed him of his o
bool4containiugL2,ooo in cheques, MIN, and Pc-et.
money. There
was only about £lOO in money. The',pro ice were communi-
cated with, but they have not -
et Oiscovered either the thief
or the money,

s• `" fitg-Jet-s a.m. Lagan rota' orr-Flot-s .ans..c* x.
, ofsli.tanurem-24 March - Jf-29 Sept. Errant' m)./Inaneials,
Tin PERIGEE'AN-LONGITUDE PHILOSOPHY, ON
-STAR.S-PONTI-lISEfrUiCt-
CINQUE-PORTAL, Wit-in-G" moot-court.-In
B. C. Dicz-Cinq'kent--309 x. "Pilot-soar arc-en-del
by A
astru-ge6graph flee . ' :to Cover's e. Arrow ' off-
Diopp's-uouen to Lizard-Ft. o'er Ind. Quadra..
culmination Tropic-wend Vterd minorca's Longue frock
40. N. Its state-rope ' Anchor flag-tow',, pros-by Tyre
'round the flat earth, as of Titus Vespasian's meter, yr 79
on 1824-35 Act for naca-conchoidal, leet-Crti.
The Bowloigne 'd illegal mixt-Com9n-negatta fete of
27-Bth, August'en A.D. 1861-as Eve sham'd-on "the after-
math-if head'ng night of Ihon apte'it"-issned the 13th,
Old Lammass-day from the " Jag'Assey's office (of Grand
master of Malta's College, St. James's-at", on U. S. c. 33,
a. 7, 1800-2-as of Amiens treaty-Nap), in dupelex, welkin
Paul the eapson-seholastie,' by Goal-LEwEs' in Ship way
seal' of ,paris 'O 'n kirk's Earth-moving' error. So to-.
" Command old words, that long have slept-to wake,
Words that wise Bacon, and brave Raleigh spoke."
This Zang awa Bamfin, but Jot m,,exchange as Corn-
hill-at. ms-chaTell. "Like GGG-father-131 Cowpza-1712,
like acio.,child sprig PALMERSTON 1861-as of H. J.Temple
-cites the charter of Bristol L. P. 9 Anne 24 July, for its
backwarn'ng to six, five, or four," combar2(on's in Lath'm
Span'sh Cabo a
tage) curvature Latrinity-ns, )'er the
sunk •Ports Q. inn Jet'm land wad-set's prior to Pope
tax 1291-97-Doge 11.G.'s 9th, at Shore-HAM, pavillion,
Bright-helm-stone meridian of London Lad, now resumed
for" Carthage-mud port-Cot' hon, Edict Comma., of Review
in Egypt's 1828," by 9-10 W. 3d, c. 15, for undersigned's
sole Etruscan " Arbitrat'm arate 'm Pontifocum-o. mgra-
tor" as G' log ós'1 'twixt Turkish Ara, and Codrington,
who in Claudian's '0 'way letter-a, didn't---
" Scorn arbitration as a stain-
9th] To ninth and tenth of William's reign. a
" [nO 10th.
So, " no 1581's Earthrolling-bulls," with
See I Edw. 'Fiat earth
Langue(3'oi o* o'er Jet'f amen'ys astral.-Ist,
VL 0. 2, re,-,enacted in 1832, by 2-3 Will. IV., cap. 92,
sec. '4,-en titled, The Submission of the Clergy cf Restraint
raml
of et pending to Pombars Brazil-9, in emit-
Appeals -as y- 26 8 c 19, 5 3, Whereas divers
ita' intervention, Henry • :tual
life-titled noblemen and spin persons have sent
out civil-summons, in their own names, as in the
time of the usurped powers of the Bishop of Rome,
contrary to the common law, touching writs in lay causes
of correction De lure patronatu-s, and probates of testaments
Be it enacted, that all such citations or other processes
by advocates or other will-court officers, of the King's
Highness, do bear the Echo Knight rider's fiscustom'ary
endorsement, as well as the Common-clerk's name placed
under citor's name, after registered seal, in polar " Die
flatiron" Jetf meridian pi nofm' : : Rochester's in mane
fed Antcec transit o'er N. Z . : Waithangii d ' brother
and sister's" 3-ty. as of-(-0. S.2oen. Azores ' fulcrum-
ponticulus-hemispherse'm± lst. re-ponti-Phiiimore'd as
the old longitude-bridge-kirk-Dance o'er the L'aide-Ley
" In silence, till the cheerful sun
Has twice six months its star-wend run."
Thus-Iliganum-notalorum's of Bent under Syn-sideral-
lathe epoch for P. L' audits, to Bow towns 51feN., /3 prefix
over its L'ond'on-wave a Wall-in-ford bye fcirencester
Seven hundreds' in 34-HBN. Ist.-Mile'r Alnothus, to 1-4
Hen. 4's hogshead of wine Jus-" Fa-change-A 1." as of
Bristol's lava longue" in alt'mare Conic-meet, of Fresh
and salt water Admiral's Court, not of Co-mercer's Jl. fa.,
l'orewing-sup,' as on Jesuit's ward books ca. fa.'d.
" Think deep.-or touch not the Pyrdan spring,"
2dly. Whence, by 1 Philip & Mary, c. 7, "No man shall
exercise the office of Justice Conservator (to Water bailiff's
Silver-oar, of July, 1521 81-now Utrecht's Indian-paddle
Treaty of 1713-63, as of Mexico's Philipine isled Bohun-
inspector of all g fiscal-f meter-Crts.), who like WOLSEY'S
Templer shall take on himself 'to direct and serve his own
prxept.' Hence this cinq Negative ; since (by Rnssn-Dutch
loan on America's double-hdd-eagle-noPegk, 91's Mingan
trust-acts of 1832), pension'd Church-Queen's" in ee-of a,
by civil list, -tho' in 6' er"Left facce"-have ceased to be
the head of Malcolm nt.'s G.G.G -Son monetary Trust in
presbyteralkindred I, and at your peril disobey this law
-for " one and all as breast-high' d on Agricola' a n,"cot and
' lot hand-up ceremonial," typic on Caesar's silver coinage
for electing yearly the Ex'change phat'a on 29th Sept., or
Simi-call-meze---4magistrates, on union echo-wall with the
24th March one-in murri
27, Aug. 31,1861 [unpaidrjan.ter martyr 19 yrs], London,
PETER BASQIJET,D The flag-union Jag, Ist Fruit-
a.mM p.m. pacca-corn hill'cl- tribune as Income- tax-
Crown
freeman, AntipQd'n colont chief
# Belo.
tff' of 1842, - The criminal law's Estradi-
Temple. tion act, Constable of the Sea-shores,
Labouchere. bearing Sameric,a's paddle of Admiral's
[2 March, '4l] court, over Canterbury's ,e-Guizote
H. M. Parley. settlement for New Zealand's probate
3 Sept, '4l, Crt., its Gial rum'poy Stil'lordWarden
'Pei v vis'a. tho' cruelly set up a medal' d Becca-
machina, in " Raccarito gentis imagines." .* N.
C HAULMS AOIERRLEY, J.P. of Carib-allyd f
Enoland, elected 29th August, 1825 (by Ad- .•• : :
zniral G. Hamond, Stuart de Rothsay's Sec- Crown-
rotary ; Marcus Hill-SAisrrrs, Lay-presbyter' s ties..
on The holy 'alliance abolition,' of King- A
clubs), its Standard meter-bearer 1837-Lt. I
R.N. pay'd double-oathied victim-supporter Si
of poor Indian PETER 10 yrs, by Indian female Peu Qu'
sponsorship 1820-thro' Quebec's Hamilton-' Ries.
Dalhousie, in Elder's duty for ins and own's S.P.Q.R.
instant State-birth provision, as the Mon-
tague Subsidy first-fruit loan 1814'20's, Major Trevsor-
Cartwright's monomial Ombra-IJ'hem6, to trove.
1322'99's red-turban'd Hen. Quadra ' Manfre-
dnm'y de pee-earls,' on H. s's colona'd martin 6; 11.•
to GONSALvI 1816 regolamento-159, by Pius 7th on
Ch. Baillie Urban Bth's capacity-oath, of 1749 Act-
Advocate STUART de Newcomin's ' en Gonfaloniere'
1825 passed, in C. A.'s naming Act 1-2 W. 4, NO. 54,
as th`qoin'd Luther- calvin popied for lay seignorage.
To all metre-roded Councils General' in nature's Year-law,
under 1835's Municipal and Reform Acts to Mayor's local
supremacy (against New" Comin'Grippe-Jesus' Christian
Clubs, 11 Geo. 111, c. 55, male or female,', as at Dover and
Burgh-Ports 1772's on the resignation aver-bulCsrun of
Clement 14's Jesuit priest Abolition, for Earth Lay-
resumption of life-set allotments of land), over the yearly
Poor-law Guardians-as are for the time being-on 1603's
church Canon in vestry'red lettered functional succession
-an afterthought of Q. Elizabeth's 1 P. C. /' euaLny-men,
for oaths in retro °sway-sense, for sound office, whence
stoppage of all pensions and ministers' money (for public
works) whereby all Creed's aro made self-supporting.-So
be it-as everybody must say.
"'Tis thus that Heaven its empire doth maintain;
It may affiict-but MAN, must not complain."
4. Papal-tribunes of purse minor Ex-change bA pointers.
o.s. Fiat-earth's Pienean philosophy to 1582, on Cowl:Ties
1671's Huitson " Chiliarcha3'r" of St. Michael's PENN for
Fox humans organ run' of Hidelburgh, in Heligoland 3ty.,
Jan. 14, May-Copenhagen'd by C. Al A. of Daphne, 1814.
Foreign Quarterly Review, Nov., 1829, p. 303 ; and
Maritime Register, 17th Aug., 1861, p. 1051.
Survey Arbitrations.-By 9 10 W. sir, c. 15, it is enacted,
" That merchants, sole-traders-(and all Antipode'ans
as those wader the 'Turkish, 1809-Dardanell'd Padi,' has Jan'
Bellied ,treaty,' 1841)-desiring to end all controversies by
arbitration, may agree that their submission of their wait to
an Award or iunpirage (as of Africa's 1828 trust on Thony
Monthermer' .A.CIiERLBY, Flag-Lt. of Ocean 74),--of any
person, should be made "on Captain Cook's mans rule in
tribal Admiralty red-flag Mxonr,-plea," of his Majesty's
courts of Record ; and in case of disobedience to such award
or Umpirage, the parties neglecting or refusing (4F. Q.
Review, Nov. 1829),-to perform the same, shall be subject
to the penalties of Contemning a Rule of Court, "as Co'mis •
sion'd on the Anglo-Saxon Mexi-Spanish trust, tho' Cuba-
Philipin'd to 1763-4-state 4 Grants, as reset 31 Jan. 1842-3,
on the Carib-tricmac's minor L'Boar's head, Inn-fan-Gee
and Out-fan-G.-sustentation, without " Locatells" death's.
"Neathpolar Astra's wehr-ring wolf to yawn,
And view with trembling, whom theyview'dwith scorn.

16 GUILTY OR "NOT GUILTY FICTION" RIDER.
" The writ original—now police-sheet root
In mistress-key'—spring of ev'ry civic-suit."
The "not guilty" when GUILTY is the free and accepted
for county-rate expenses, in all the courts—bnt, the guilty
on written evidence to Female complainant, &c., before hear-
ing—is of right saved (50, E. 3) from a committal under the
twofold spiritual and corporeal capacity of the casting voice
in Judge, as counsel for the prisoner. The case in ques-
tion being a complicity 'twixt Mistake-plaintiff, and Defen-
dant, pre-tacited—in order to obtain " a Court-christian
saillie-day's criminal sentence," —as the October Laird
o' Cockpen's Ist usefruct, of the French treaty jurisprudence
in the Marylebone Police-court on Wed., Oct. 2, " Bellew
v. Baillie" committed for three calender months to the cells
with loss of hair—omitting the real Rug'd-pursuer's name
on civil law, table-turning, a Flemish-Balieu writ to wit,
into a police-sheet-chargeress.
The 'x.. c.-sister' prisoner, on faith of pre-arbitration
with plaintiff in rug-laundress, for not having counsel—in
proof of some facts, not truly forthcoming—Therefore,
on iuggestion,' Mr. Tyrwhitt may instantly from defunct
justice,' as saving being outwitted—rectify this Cassandra
washing-rug' trial between mistress and servant—in order
for instant Henry 6th release, under Chief Justice Bruce-
.fielleto-Fortescne's " Kt.-Stapleton Statute" of 1442—(te
Coldbath Vestal-women-jail-keeper's o'er the 600, in Tothill
nun'ery-like prison), &c., on modern Bench-warrant as
genitive-case'd 'of' sth Victories, gap. 24. La voila I—
" Provided always, Yeal that, if e'er
Quack men or Lady Quacks interfere,
Or take upon them—'as, a scholar'—
' Prohibitory' writ should follow."

TH"TRY...ROYAL, HAYMARKET.
Lessee. Mr. J. it 8u0k5,,,,
TIT EVEN i N the Dertormanoew will commence with.
A NEW WAY TO' PAY OLD DEBTS. Sir Giles Over-
remh, Mr. Edwin Booth (from the principal American
theatres); supported by the company.
After which, FITZSMYTTIE OF FITZSMYTHE HALL
Mr. Buekstune and Mrs. Wilkins.
To conclude with FISH OUT OF WATER.
Commence at 7.

RO Y A Tii,esseeP=RdlZTerS
IT
r. ATTHEATRE.--
THIS EVENING', JEANETTE'S WEDDIIiG. Miss M.
Harris and Mr. H. Widdicomb.
Alter which, a new and original comedy, in five acts,
ten b y John Brougham, entitled PLAY 1 N WITH FI writ_
characters by Mr. John Bron,v,ham (his 12th appearanc) Mr.
Itydrer, Mr. N. Widdicombe, Mr. G. Jordan (ai the principal
thenitres of the United States, his 12th appearance in Eng-
lan dr, Miss C. Lela tercq, and Mrs. Weston.
With THE GARIBALDI EXCURSIONISTS.