The Sun.
London, England, 1861-12-04 00:00:00

MR. FORSTER, M.P.

At the -opening of the Volunteer Barracks, at
Bradford, on Saturday,
th or rather at the luncheon
in connection with
M.P., respondedmembrsaetso;e elvenengtt, Captain
h tothetoaFsot Rospthite,
" Borough .
With regard to the present
American difficulty, 11 urged his hearers not to take
one
it for granted that account of what had hap-
pened therefore the American
Government would
not make reparation. He could not believe that they
would be guilty of the insanityashewarwith
and wickedness of
the fearful interests
They involving
all f e l
felt
as
m themselvesuchthis country,
which would be at stake if England were under the 1
necessity of going to war with any country but more
especially in going to war with America, for such a
conflict must be regarded :as a civil war. There
were at stake not only the great commercial inte-
rests which bound the two nations together, but
there was hardly a street in our towns in which
there were not families from which members had
gone to reside in the United States; so that a war
between these countries would he the same as a
civil war. Nothing, then, could be more disastrous
and ruinous than a war between these countries.

Yesterday a meeting of the City Commissioners of
Sewers was held at Guildhall, Deputy Christie in
the chair. Mr. Tyrell, the Remembrancer, and
Mr. Pearson, the City Solicitor, had been instructed
at a former meeting of the Commission to take the
opinion of counsel as to whether the 24th clause of
the special Act of the Great Central Gas Company,
which restrains that company from charging more
than 4s. per thousand cubic feet for its gas, had been
repealed or modified by the Metropolis Gas Act
of 1860. The Remembrancer and Solicitor to the
Corporation now reported that they had laid a case
on the subject before Mr. Russell Gurney, the Re-
corder, Mr. Bovill, Q.O , and Mr. Gibbons, a special
pleader, the two former of whom had stated sub-
stantially they were of opinion that, there being no
special clause in the Metropolis Gas Act repealing
the provision of the special Act of the Great Central
Company, the company was bound by its own Act
of incorporation, and could not increase the price of
its gas beyond 4s. a thousand feet. Mr. Gibbons, the
junior counsel, gave a separate and contrary opinion;
to the effect that the Great Central Company having
elected to come within the operation of the Metro-
polis Gas Act, the provisions of which overrode
those of their Act of incorporation, the contract
between the company and the public as to price was
at an end, and the company was at liberty to in-
crease its charge. On the motion of Deputy Harri-
son, the special committee of the Commission on the
supply of gas were directed to put themselves in com-
munication with the Great Central Company, with
the view to agree upon a ease for the opinion of the
Court of Queen's Bench, so as to settle the question
in dispute. A deputation from the Carburating Gas
Company, headed by Mr. E. C. Shepard, a director,
attended before the Commissioners and presented
a memorial in which they expressed their regret
that the Commissioners, at their last meeting, had
declined to accept their offer to apply their carbu-
rating process to the public lamps in the city, by
which they believed a saving would be effected of
about £2,000 a year to the rate-paying inhabitants.
The Chairman explained that the present unsettled
state of the gas question in the city was the real
cause of the Commission not having adopted the
plan, and that, but for that consideration, they
would have recommended a trial of the experiment,
On the motion of Deputy Harrison, seconded by
Deputy Whiteside, it was resolved in effect that
such alterations be made in the specification for the
new contract about to be made by the Commission
for the public lighting as would admit of the appli-
cation of the carburating process, should the Com-
missioners think it desirable to adopt it. Deputy
Elliott suggested the application of it on a partial
scale, by way of experiment before its general
adoption. Mr. Haywood, the engineer to the Com-
mission, said there would be no difficulty in arrang-
ing the specification so as to allow of the adoption
of the process in question. Mr. Saunders then pre-
sented a petition from the inhabitants of Coleman-
street Ward, numerously signed, praying the Com-
mission to use its influence in procuring the amend-
ment or repeal of certain obnoxious clauses in the
Metropolis Gas Act, or the exemption of the city
altogether from its operation, and, in the latter
event, to obtain powers for enabling the Commission
to make its own gas for the public lighting and the
general consumption of the citizens. After some
discussion, in which Dr. Abraham, Deputy Elliott,
Mr. De Jersey, and Mr. George Walker took part,
the petition was referred to the special committee
on the supply of gas for consideration ant report.
Dr. Letheby, the medical officer of health, reported
on the state of 187 houses that had been inspected
during the week, and he submitted a list of 39
places for sanitary improvement. He also submitted
certificates of the indecent and unwholesome crowd-
ing of three houses in I'lumtree-court and Union-
court, Holborn. He reported that the markets and
slaughter-houses of the city had been duly inspected
during the week, and that the officers had seized
1,4191 b. of meat and 159 head of poultry as unfit
for human food. 1,0771 b. of the meat was diseased,
and 3421 b. from animals that had died from natural
causes. All of it has been destroyed by means of
creasote and by boiling. The mortality returns for
the week are greatly below the average for the sea-
son. The number of deaths was 52 only, instead of
67, which is the mean proportion for the correspond-
ing period of the last six years: 19 of the deaths
were among children ander 5 years of age, and 13
among old persons of 60 and upwards. The chief
causes of death were as follows :—Pulmonary con-
sumption, 6 ; bronchitis, 6; pneumonia, 1; mesen-
teric disease, 3; whooping-cough, 2; continued
fever, 2 ; scarlet fever, 2 ; remittent fever, 1, and
gastric fever, I—making together 9 deaths from
tubercular diseases, 7 from acute lung diseases, and
8 from zymotic. The condition of the public health
as indicated by these returns is satisfactory. 62
births were reported in the week, viz., 29 boys and
33 girls. The Court then adjourned.

HEALTH OF LONDON DURING 211 E WEEK.

(From the Regzstrar-Generar s Weekly Return.)

The deaths in London registered in the week
that ended last Saturday were 1,424, which is
nearly the same number as that returned in the
previous week. The mortality rose at the begin-
ning of November, and showed a further increase in
the middle of the month, but during the greater
part of last week the weather has been warmer, and
to this circumstance it is probably due that the pre-
sent return is not heavier than that which imme-
diately preceded it.
The rate of mortality in last week exhibits a
tolerably close approximation to that
,which is ob-
tained by calculation from the returns of corro•
spending weeks in ten previous years.
The deaths from bronchitis now returned aro 198,
while the corrected average is 184 ; those from
pneumonia are 87, the corrected average being 126.
Scarlatina wes fatal in 81 c,ses, diphtheria in 18,
typhus in M. Scarlatina was returned in four
cases in St. George's, Bloomsbury ; three in St.
Clement Danes (all of which were in Lower Serle's-
place) ; six in the two Waterloo road sub-districts.
Mr. Upjohn, the registrar of Pentonville, reports
that the mortality is his sub-district has been very
high during November, and in the last week of that
month it was double the average; The increase is
caused chiefly by scarlatina, which is very preva-
lent, and was fatal last week in seven cases, four
of which occurred in two families.

A boy in Paddington and a man in Bermondsey
were bitten by dogs ; the former died iu consequence
of fright, the latter from the wound. A maker of
lucifer matches died from brooch° pneumonia,
caused by inhaling noxious fumes in the course of
his occupation, A man, aged 76 years, died of
pemphigus, after seven months' illness. A labourer,
aged 50 years, died on Nov. 25 of exhaustion from
exposure. Two persons died at the age of 95 years,
and a man at 253, King's-road, Chelsea, at the age
of 101 years. He was formerly a nurseryman.
Last week the births of 880 boys and 911 girls,
in all 1,791 children, were registered in London.
In the 10 corresponding weeks of the years 1851.60
the average number was 1,684.
At the Royal Observatory, Greenwich, the mean
height of the barometer iu the week was 29.696 in.
The barometrical readings rose to 29 96 inches on
Sunday, and fell to 29 36 inches on Tuesday. The
mean temperature of the air in the week was 44.5
deg., which is 3.3 deg. above the average of the
same week in 43 years (as determined by Mr.
Glaisher). The mean daily temperature was 10.4
deg. below the average on Sunday, and rose
12.2 deg. above it on Tuesday. It was
slightly below the average on Thursday, and
rose 10.3 deg. above it on Friday, The thermo-
meter fell below the freezing point of water on the
first two nights of the week. The lowest reading
was 26 deg., on Sunday. The highest temperature
was 57'8 deg., on Tuesday. The range of tempera-
ture in the week was therefore 31.8 deg. The mean
daily range was 13 7 deg. The lowest reading of
a thermometer on the grass was 19.7 deg. on Mon-
day. The difference between the mean dew-point
temperature and air temperature was 3.1 deg. The
mean degree of humidity of the air was 90, com-
plete saturation being represented by 100, which
Saturday.
point was almost attained on Friday. The general
dthirection of the wind was south west. Rain fell to
amount
of
TheO 36 in.,mea uof the
morethan
h i3hhaelsft of which
temperature
on
of the water in the river was 43.8 deg., that of the
lowest was 38.8 deg. V
lowest temperatures of taewy e e
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high water. If this explanation sea at
greatest differences should take
place about the
time of full moon, which, in fact, is found to
be the
cue.

Mr. Girdlestone, of the firm of Gosling and Gird-
lestone, of New-street, Spring-gardens, appeared to
prosecute.
Mr. Girdlestone having opened his case, called ;
George H. Butterworth Haworth, a pupil to an
architect. He said—l live at 38, Manchester-
street. In the beginning of October last I left
home between eight and nine o'clock at night, and
walked as far as the Marble-arch, Hyde-park. I
. _

was there accosted by a young man, who said some-
thing to me, but I could not tell what it was he
said. Ire appeared younger than the prisoner, and
I thought he was begging, and told him that I had
nothing to give him. There was a lamp near, and
I saw his face. He was rather a peculiar looking
young person, with an emaciated appearance and
thin. I had never seen him before this, neither
did I say anything more to him then, but went
along the road that runs parallel with Bayswater-
road. I then entered the park, and went to the
bridge which divides the low water from the Ser-
pentine. I did not go over the bridge, as I thought
the gates would be locked, and continued my
walk across the park without meeting any person
til the young man came up to me who had pre
viousiy accosted me. He spoke to me, when I again,
thinking that he was begging—not knowing what
he said—told him that I had nothing to give him,
and turned off on to the grass to avoid him. I
thought he was a beggar. I went across the grass,
and
,stopped at the clump of trees for a natural
purpose.
By Mr. Yardley—The bridge I mean is that
nearest to the Albert-gate, at the end of the Ser-
pentine.
Witness contiuued—As I was by the clump of
trees the young man came up that had spoken to me
before, and said something which I could not catch.
Prisoner—l came up then.

Witness—At the same moment prisoner came up
and said, " I have caught you," and said he would
take me to the police station, and then asked me if
I had any money. lie said he would not let me go,
and talked a great deal about the villainy of the
crime, and of taking me up, and that if I had £5 he
would let me go. I told him that I had not £5.
He then asked me if I had any rings. I told him
I had, and gave them and my watch, and also some
small change which I had, amounting to 2s. or 3s.
He also took my umbrella. The prisoner took all
these things—the other man none.
In reply to his worship, witness said that the
other man was near at the time, but did not hear
that he made any remark.
Witness continued—Prisoner left the first of
us, then the young man, and I next, and went
home. I gave up the things through fear of an
exposure of being taken up on such a charge.
I did not tell my friends of what had hap-
pened because I could not tell them for shame that
I had been charged with such an offence. My
friends noticed that my things were gone. At five
in the evening of Thursday, Nov. 28, I was coming
from a shop in Oxford-street, and came through
Duke-street, and whilst passing through Manchester-
square, on the tree side, the young man whom I had
seen in the park came and touched me on the shoul-
der. He either said he had my watch and rings, or
that he could get them. I turned round and walked
with him a sort distance, when we turned into
Edward-street, by Anderson's, the chemist. At this
point prisoner came up to us and said he had my
watch and rings. I said, " Have Sou?" He said,
"Yes, and if you give me your address I will bring
them to you for £5." lie did not ask me for my
address when he first spoke, but said if I had £5
he would give them up to me. I told him I had not
got so much, and gave him my address. The other
man was not present, as I objected to give them both
the address. After I had given the prisoner my
address he walked home with me to see if it was
right. The servant opened the door, and he followed
me upstairs without asking, and said, " If I bring
you the rings to-morrow night you must give me
£5." I told him I would, and he left after my telling
him he must be there the next night at six. He
asked me my name, and I gave him the name of
Hawkin. Next day, at six o'clock, he came and
knocked at the door, and was admitted by the ser-
vant and came up into my room, when I think I
asked him if he had got my rings and watch. He said
I had given him a wrong name, and what did I mean
by it. I said that was nothing to him. After this,
without my leave, he went into my bed-room and
looked under the bed. There was no reason why
he should do so. He came back into the sitting-
room and produced two rings which he had taken
from me in the park. I saw them and know they
were the same. I did not handle them; but they
were put on the table at my request, after which I
gave the prisoner five sovereigns, when he snatched
the rings up again. Before I gave him the £5 I
asked for my watch, when he said ho had not
arranged to bring it. I said " You have," when
he threatened me and said he had some men outside
who would take me up for the offence he alleged,
and he would call them in ; but offered, if I gave
him £5 more, that he would give me back the
rings. It was then arranged that he was to call
last night at half-past 5 and bring nothing but the
rings, and I was to give him £5. I was anxious to
get the rings. Directly he had left last Friday I
heard a loud knock at the door, immediately after
which the other young man came in to my room and
said he had my watch and if I gave him £1 I should
have it. He showed me the watch, but held it at
some distance, so that I could not swear to it. My
watch had the name of Thomas Russell, Geneva,
and is a small silver one. The one the young man
produced is like it. I had not the money in the
house, but he said he would have it before he left it
he stayed all night. Prisoner was not present at
this time. Whilst we were talking I rang the bell
to see if my landlady had the money at hand.
When I had done this the man went to the window
pulled up the blind, opened the window, drew over
a chair, sat down, and rested his arm on the win-
dow-sill. I live on the second floor, and the win
iThe m
landlady,
dow looks into the street. On the servant enter-
fil2ady, lOs,as
who I hadhad gniov
enter-
ing the room I asked her to see if the landlad3
would
. lend
hand, went out to see if she could
get it, but returned

I then saw the prisoner come from the west and
pass the window of the shop I was in nearest
Vere-street. The other young man also passed,
coming from the east. Prisoner stood in view of
the post-office, and I crossed from the tobacco shop
to the post-office. I saw prisoner, but I do not
think he saw me. At the post-office I saw the
young man, and he asked me if I had got the money.
I told him I had none with me, but that if he came
at half-past six on Monday night, and gave me the
watch, I would give him the £2 10s.; he was to
come to my room. He then asked me where I
was going, and I said home. I did not see prisoner
in Vere.street. I went straight home, and shortly
after heard a knock at the street door, which being
opened, prisoner came up into my room and said
he must have £5 before he left. He assumed a very
overbearing and rough manner. I said he should
not have it, when he locked the door, took the key
out, and put it in his pocket. At this moment I
rushed out of my sitting-room, and through the
door communicating with my bedroom and locked
it. I went on to the landing and found the other
door locked, with the key inside. I unlocked it,
and found the prisoner standing there. I seized
him by his hair and coat, and asked him what tie
meant by asking me for the money, and said that
he must come with me to the station. He said,
" 0 come along—my character will bear me out for
anything," and a great deal more like that. He
said he would go at once and take me there, and I
should take him ; and we both went into the street
to go to the station, when the young man joined us
when we had got about the distance of two houses.
We all three walked together down Manchester-
street to George-street and by Spanish•-place, when
the young man appeared very reluctant to go any
further, and said he would not go to the police station.
Prisoner said to him, " I will make you go. You
shall go." The young man walked on ahead,
crossed Thayer-street to Marylebone-lane, near to
Hinde-street, where he left us. Before he went he
said he would return and blacken my character.
Prisoner was present then. After he had left, my-
self and the prisoner walked to Wigmore-street,
where he stopped, and said if I would give him £5
at night he would leave me and bring the rings. I
turned and walked a short distance down Maryle-
bone-lane, and said, "If you bring me the rings you
can have the money." We then met the young
man again, who said he would take me to his father.
I said I would go, as I wanted to see where his
father lived. Shortly after he seemed unwilling to
take me, and I asked why he would not go, when
he said "he should not like to take me to his re-
spectable parents." I parted with them in a narrow
street leading from Wigmore•street, when it was
arranged that prisoner was to call at half-past six.
I spoke to a friend about this last Saturday morn-
ing. I did not speak to any one before, as I was
ashamed. My friends advised me to see my lawyer,
which I did, and yesterday afternoon at 4 o'clock I
came up from Scotland-yard with two detectives to
my home. They went to my room. . About 20
minutes to six I saw the prisoner come into the
passage. He held the door in his hand, and I asked
him in. Instead of coming in he rushed off, and I
followed calling " Stop him." He was stopped by
a gentleman and given over to the two detectives,
who brought him back to my house, where he was
searched, but none of my property found.
prisoner—l have not had his watch and rings.
Mr. Yardley--I suppose a remand is wanted ?
Mr. Girdlestone—Yes, sir.
Mr. Yardley—l shall remand him for a week.
Prisoner—Will you take bail ?
Mr. Yardley—No, certainly not.

SPOI?TING INTELLIGENCE.

CROYDON STEEPLECIIASES-TUESDAY,

From the admirable manner in which the meeting has
been conducted for the last few seasons, under the direction
of Mr. Verrall, it has rapidly grown in favour with the me-
tropolitans, and it may now be considered firmly established.
An excellent line of country has been secured, which was
on the present occasion judiciously flagged so as to afford
the visitors an admirable view of every fence from the stand.
The morning opened with a bright and cheering aspect, and
the slight frost which prevailed the two preceding nights
had a beneficial effect in rendering the running ground more
consistent than it was anticipated by those who came with
a vivid recollection of the last year's quagmire. The card
contained four items, each of which produced large fields
and some excellent racing, but which, we are sorry to say,
did not pass off without the usual casualties, occasioned
through the line of running ground having been recently
drained. The attendance was extremely large, the stand
and enclosure being inconveniently filled, the bookmakers,
from the fact of the favourites in every instance being de-
feated, having a " rosy" time of it. The first race com-
menced punctually at the time set down--at 12 30—and the
day's sport was brought to a conclusion shortly after half-
past 3.

The Innkeepers' Plate (handicap) of ao. About 2 miles

and a half.
Mr. S, Jacobs's Gfiiutias, aged, lOst 41b.... (Mr. Woods) 1
Mr. C. Green's Friar of Apshall, aged,lost 21b(Ellingbam) 2
Mr. J. Horwood's Balzarine, 6 yrs, 10st (Gammage) 3

Tne following also ran :—Tartar, Heads or Tails, Paddy,
Brine, Yorkee, Alfred the Great, Broadway Swell, Cathe-
rine, Marmion, and Venison,
Betting-4 to 1 'eget Catherine, 6to 1 each agst Venison
and Friar of Apshall, 7 to 1 each agst Brine and Glautias,
and 8 to 1 agst any other.
Yorkee made play at an indifferent pace, followed by
Friar of Apshall, Paddy, Marmion, Brine, and Glautias at
wide intervals, Heads or Tails, who refused the first fence,
being a long way in their rear, as the others passed the stand
in the order we have before given them. Oa approaching the
succeeding fence, entering the ploughed land,Tartar, getting
his fore legs into one of the new made drains, rolled over
and dislocated his neck. Soon after entering the " seeds"
Paddy went to the fore, waited upon by Yorke°, the pair
being several lengths in advance of Balzarine and Alfred
the Great, who now headed the ruck. On rising the hill
Paddy dropped back, and Friar of Apshall immediately
went to the front, and carried on the running at an increased
pace, his immediate followers being Balzarine, Brine, Mar-
mien, and Venison close together. Paddy, who had gra-
dually given way, was seen keeping company with Alfred
the Great, who on this occasion did not appear in the vein,
and the favourite, the latter having unfortunately broken
his stirrup leather. On descending the hill towards the
Farm-house the lot began to exhibit a disjointed appear-
ance, the Friar, in company with Balzarine, being upwards
of 10 or 15 lengths in advance of the others, who came on
in Indian file as they made their way into the starting field,
before reaching which, however, Yorke° rushed past Bal-
zarine, and the pair came on together past the stand, Veni-
son and Glautias following fourth and fifth, Brine heading
the ruck. On entering the " seeds" a second time the lead-
ing horses got closer together, but OR reaching its centre
Venison came down as if shot, giving his rider a " purler,"
who, being satisfied therewith, returned home. At the
fence, into the turnips, Brine was disposed of by falling
heavily; Alfred the Great, Paddy, and Marmion at the
same time showed signals of distress, and gradually fell
into the roar and were not persevered with. Approaching
the extreme turning flag on the far side Glautias drew into
the second place, and on fairly rounding it took a clear
lead, the Friar of Apshall going on second, Balzarine
third, Yorkeo next—nothing else having a chance
—in which way they ran to the Farm buildings;
on the far side of the track, where the Friar once more
showed in advance, and came on with the running to the
turning flag for home, which Yorkee left on the right, and
thereby gained a great advantage, which he held to the end,
and went past the post a length in advance of Glautias, the
Friar finishing third, three lengths from the latter; Balza-
rine finished a bad fourth. Nothing else passed the judge's,
box. On returning to scale Mr. Woods claimed the race for
Glautias, on the ground that the rider of Yorkee had gone
the wrong side of more than one of the flags, which was in-
vestigated after the race, awl the stakes were awarded to
Mr. Jacobs.

The Railway Stakes of 3 sow each, with 25 added. Weights
for age, with optional selling weights. About two miles.
Mr. James's Ingestre, 4 yrs (V 0), 9st 111 b (Ablett) 1
Mr. Pickett's Goldsmith,aged (£3O), lOst 31b (B. Land, jun) 2

The following also ran :—Keepsake, Pembdw, Ascot,
Savernake, and King o' Toole.
Betting-5 to 4 agst Goldsmith, and 4to 1 agst any other.
This race being only two miles, the horses were started
on the brow of the hill on the plough. Upon the flag being
lowered Pembdw, overpowering his rider, rushed to the
front and cut out the work at a good pace, and on reaching
the first fence he cleared it upwards of 20 lengths in advance
of Goldsmith, who went on second, King o' Toole third,
Savernake fourth, then came Ingestre, Ascot, and Keepsake,
the latter lying last a long way in their rear. In this order
they proceeded to the cut fence into the turnips, which
Bembdw overjumping fell a "cropper" and rolled over, his
rider fortunately (moped unhurt, but wisely declined