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of the East India Cetnrany in this matt. r oneonec.ensistent
with justice and •eqeity, and with our obligations towards
China. No doubt it was of the utmost difficulty to pro-
hibit vice by legisla' ion. There were many in thin coun-
try who wished to prohibit the sale of int xTating liquors
but he always thought that such a prohibition xould be
ineffectual and unwise. Opium was a drug liable to great
abuse, but still of great value as a medicine,
and the
prohibition of it would be attended, even in that respect
with much evil. He doubtell, therefore if it were possi-
ble, when opium had passed into the'hands of private
consumers, to limit the supply to a necessary and pro-
per amount. But the quesdon was whether, after the
opium had passed from the hands of the company, the
British authorities wilfully encouraged the smuggling of
it. (Hear.) He used to think that they did not, but
that opinion had been considerably shaken by an ob-
servation of the British resident at Hong Kong, which
he (Earl Grey) bad found in the papers before the house
to the effect that the recent ordinance had been of
the-greatest service in encouraging the trade in opium
along the coast. He thought if the colonial authorities
had- encouraged the smuggling of opium,
nothing could
justify such a course. We should then be in the position
of punishing the Chinese with the utmost severity for an
alleged violation of the treaty, whilst at the same time
this country was violating not only its spirit, but its ex-
press terms. The oeinien of the law officers of the Crown
on a subject involving so great a principle as was there
involved he should not r•esider as worthy the paper cn
which it was writ', i. He t ustel thatthe negotiator who,
as the Government had tardlyannounced, was to be sent
out to China to supersede Sir J. Bowring would be amen
possessing the confidence of botikl houses of Parliament,
and also of the country, and that be would be sent out to
negotiate not only upon that subject, but generally as to
the best means of obtaining and maintaining peaceful re-
lations between this country and China. Even on the
assumption that the proceedings which had lately taken
piece at Canton had been as right as he (Earl Grey)
believed them to be wrong, and that the Government
were justified in every step they had taken, stilt he
thought the war which had broken out was a direful
calamity, and that all ought to be most anxious to put
an end to it. On the Bth of October, when the unfortu-
nate occurrence which bad led to the evil took place, we
had been for a number of years carrying on an advanta-
geous trade with Mina, the commercial position we en-
joyed being equal to that found in any of the great com-
mercial emporiums 'of the world. Without now staying
to comment on the evils of the war, as it affected the
cause of humanity, although he was one who could not
look with anything approaching indifference on the
slaughter of so many men, of whatever nation they might
be—he would ask their lordships to consider what the
effects had been on our own interests. Our valuable trade
in tea had been so interrupted that we were told that the
importations of tea had fallen off to such an extant that
the loss to the revenue would be nearer two than
one million. Besides that, the feelings of the Chinese
people a ere so exasperated against this country, that
even in our own colony. of Hong Kong the British
were subject to great danger, and serious alarm was alto
entertained at Singapore. The whole financial arrange-
ments of the . year would be so greatly disturbed by the
war that either the nation must be disappointed of that
reduction of taxation which it had a right to expect as
consequent upon the conclusion of the Russian war, or
else the Government must resort to the expediency of a
loan. He thought that the plenipotentiary to be sent
out should have instructions, not penned in a vindictive
spirit, but such as would cause him to make peace at
the earliest moment. This was the first time almost in
our history in which we bad been engaged in a war with
out it being made known to the house by a message
from the Crown, and without any formal communication
being made to Parliament, notwithstanding large forces
were being shipped to the scene of war. Ho concurred
in the withdrawal of the motion by his noble friend, for
he thought that the question involved in the motion was
one which ought to be considered upon the high prin-
ciples of policy and equity.
The Earl of ALBEAIARLE contended' that it was
the abuse, and not the use, of opium which was per-
nicious. Thousands might consume it without any evil
results. All the authorities on the subject agreed in
saying that opium, taken in moderation, neither
im-
paired the functions nor shortened life. n fact, it was
not more deleterious than spirits, and the criminal re-
cords of this country showed that most crimes had their
.
origin in drunkenness. If the growth of opium were
altogether prohibited he believed the Chinese would
have recourse to spirits as a stimulant, and therefore the
effect of the noble earl's motion, if it were carried out,
would be to increase drunkenness iu China tenfold and
crime one hundredfold. But if opium were to be totally
probib:ted, they must also, by some indirect meddling,
prevent its growth in the neighbouring territory of Man-
wall. Turkey, likewise, grew opium, and it was even
being cultivated in China itself. He felt convinced that
the Chinese had seen the folly and absurdity of enacting
edicts against the introduction of opium, and therdure
allowed the law to become a dead letter.

IMPERIAL PAR LIAIYIELd T

gislature, it not the British Government, regarding the
state of our Indian empire.
The motion was then withdrawn.
Their lordehips tben adjourned.

HOUSE OF LORDS.--(YEsTERDA.Y.)
The LORD CHANCELLOR took hit; seat On the woolsack
at 5 o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(YESTBRDAY.)
The SPEAKER took the Chair at 4 o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The following private bills were considtrcd as amended,
and ordered to be read a third time :—C, ra gall Rail-
way ; Exeter and Exmouth Railway ; Price's Patent
Candle Company ; Whitehaven, C!eatoi, and Egremont
Railway.
The following private bills were read a cecond time
and ordered to be committed :—Keith and Dufftown
Railway (No. 2), South Yorkshire and North Line,,ln-
shire Junction Railway, and Cork and Youghal Rail-
way.

ROYAL COMMINSION.

The Royal assentVasgivenl7roomm ission to the
following bills :
The Royal Marine Forces.
Chief Constables. '
The Public Health, Stipplemeni;al (1857), and
The lonian Subjects.
The Royal Commissioners were. the Lord Chancellor,
Earl Granville, and the Duke of Argyll.

The Westminfater Improvenient Bill vas nithdrawn.

ROYAL ASSENT.

Mr. PULMAN, Deputy Usher of the flack Rod, up•
peered at the table of the house, and summoned the
Speaker and the members of the house to the House of
Loris to hear the assent of the Crown given by com-
mission to various bills. (See Lords.)
MEDICAL PROFESSION BILL.

On the motion of Mr. HEADLAM, the older for the
second reading of the Medical Profession Bi'l was read
and discharged

EDUCATION.

On the motion of Sir J. PAKINGTON, the order tor
thesecond reading of the Education (Citie_andileroughs)
was yeka and disCharigea.
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BEE it BILL.

On the motion of Mr. HARDY, the order for the
second reading of the Beer Bdi was read and discharged.

THE NESTORIAN CHRISTIANS.

Mr. PELLATT asked the President of the Board of
Control whether, in the event of peace with Persia, any
representations wonid be made to the Persian Govern-
ment by the English Government in favour of the Nes-
torian Christians, " who since the witbdrawment of the
British Legation have suffered severe persecution, have
had fifty schools suppressed, the teaching of the English
language prohibited, and people ordered, on pain of im-
prisonment or the bastinado, not to enter their own
churches ?"

Mr. V. SMITH said that instructions had been sent
to Mr. Murray br the amelioration of the Nestorian
Christians, and as soon as peace was ratified with. Persia
representations would be made to the Persian Govern-
ment relative to their position.
ACCOUNTS OF THE ARMY, &c.

Sir HENRYWILLOUGEBY asked the Chancellor
of the Exchequer when the detailed -accounts of the
army, navy, and ordnance for the year, March 31, 1856,
would be laid on the table of the bonse

TheCHANCELLOR- of the EXCIiEQUER said
that the abstract of the army accounts had been pre-
sented, and the detailed accounts would shortly be laid
on the table. The time had not yet arrived for present-
ing the detailed army estimates, but by hop,3d Ole de-
tadad accounts would be laid on, the tabl, of the house
on Tuesday next.

COURT OF CHANCERY TITLES OF PURCHAS-
ERS BILL - AND THE COURT OF CHAN-
CERY BILL (IRELAND). '
On the motion of Mr. WHITESIDE, the order for
the second reading of these bills was read and dis-
charged.
REFORMATORY SCHOOLS BILL.

Oa the motion of Sir G. GREY, the order for going
into committee on this bill was read and dißoharged.
THE DANISH TRANSIT DUES.

Mr. G. DUNDAS asked the S2eretary to the Tren-
sury if it was the intention of the Government, in nego-
tiating the settlement of the Sound dues, to stipultte for
the settlement of the Danish transit dues on the same
basis ?

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCFIEQUER. said
that negotiations had been entered into with Denmark
for the remission of the Sound dues, by the principal

powers, viz., Austria, Belgium, France, Great Britain,
Hanover, the Netherlands, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Swe-
_

den, Norway, and the Hanse Towns. Thece nertiations,
he expected, would be completed soon, and with them the
reduction of tile transit dues. He wal unable to say

what would be the precise amount of the latter, but ha
thought the remission would be about four-filtha of the
present amount. (Hear, hear.)

THE DA.NII
Mr. MEAGHER asked the First Lira of the Trea-
sury whether he could afford any information as to the
present state of the river Danube, as far as its safe a►nd
proper navigation was concerned ; and, whether there
were any remonabl-.• hopes that the ever might new be
sufficiently clear to allow of spring shiptneuts being made
to and from the Danubian provinces
Lord PALMERSTON said that the Commissioners
had not been able to come to a decision on this
matter. A question had arisen, that the St. George's
entrance south of the Sulina would be the better
entrance, and they were considering that point.
RETIREMENT OF THE SPEAKER.

Earl GRANVILLE said that when the subject came
to be comprehensively treated their hrdships would
find there were various considerations on both sides
which must be looked at before any decision could be
come to. On the present occasion he merely rose for
the purpose of noticing on or two points raised by the
nobl3 earl near him (Earl Grey). That noble earl said
he objected to the course which. the Government had
felt bound to take in referring this question to the low
officers of the Crown for their opinion. Considering
that the nobly earl admitted he was not prepared to
form an opinion upon Po important a question, and also
considering that it was brought forward by a noble esti
opposite who represented a strong opinion, whether
right or wrong, on the subject in the country, he (Earl
Granville) did not think the Government were much to
blame, under such circumstances, in referring the matter
to the law officers of the Crown. He did not think the
observations .made by the noble earl, considering the
situation he bad occupied, could bear any other meaning
than an imputation upon the law officers of the Crown
—a personal insinuation upon the gentlemen now occu-
pying those offices—upon their ability and upon their
character.

The SPEAKER rose and said—Before I call upon
the Clerk-to proceed with the orders of the day, I hope
the house will permit me to occupy their attention for a
very few moments. After the statement made by the
noble lord at the head of the Government to the bons.)
on Thursday last, it is quite evident that a dissolution
of-Parliament is rapidly approaching—(hear, hear) —and
I feel it to be only consistent with that reepect which is
especially due from me to the house/that I should inform
them that it is my intention to retire from Parliament at

the clone of the present session. It is very nearly
eighteen years since I first had the honour of being
elected Speaker of this house, and I cannot contemplate
the •termination of my official career without great pain

—(hear, hear)—nor can I allow it to cl use without offer-
ing to the house my sincere and grateful acknowledg-
ments for that uniform confidence and support which
I have received, not only from all parties in the house, but
I may say with perfect truth from every individual mem-
ber of the house. (Cheers.) I am quite aware that in the
discharge of the delicate and very onerous duties of this
chair I have had great need of that kiud indulgence
which has always been extended to me, especially of late,
when I have been too frequently reminded of my increae_
ing inability to do full justice to the talk which has
devolved upon me. (Cries of U No, no.") It has been
my constant endeavour, as is welt known to the house,
to improve and simplify their forms of proceeding—
(cheers)—but at the same time I have endeavoured to
maintain unimpaired all those rights and privileges, and
those rules and orders, sanctioned by ancient usage,
which long experience has taught me to respect and
venerate, and which, I believe, never can be relaxed or
materially altered without prejudice to •the freedom and
independence of the House of Commons. And if I have
been in the least degree instrumental in promoting
objects so desirable and so essential to the public interests,
I am perfectly aware that I owe that but:Tess t• the cor-
dial co-operation I have always received from the house,
and for which I never can be sufficiently grateful. (Loud

Earl GREY—The noble earl misunderstood his obser•
vatiuns. Whet he said was, he would give nothing for
the opinion of the law officers of the Crown upon mere
technical points, for there were superior considerations
to the mere words of an act of Parliament.

Earl GRANVILLE said hew-asThenhappy to retract
his words, and would dwell no longer upon that part of
the discussion. But he had understood the noble earl to
say that the British authorities in China had encouraged
smuggling, and that to do 610 was a breach of treaties.
Earl GREY—No ; what he said was that he had always
understood that formerly our authorities in China had
discouraged smuggling, but that of late smuggling had
been regarded by them with more favourable eyes.
Earl GRANVILLE was glad the noble earl had not
attempted to contradict what he had stated upon this
head. The papers proved a very different state of things
than that supposed to exist by the noble earl.
Earl GREY—The best way to put an end to the smug-
gling of opium in India would be for our authorities in
China earnestly to take measures for its discouragement.
Earl GRANVILLE—In fact, the noble earl, judging
from his speech, wished to renew the Chinese debate,
and had in his speech upon that debate probably omitted
the remarks he had delivered upon that evening. He
would not imitate the noble earl in this slight irregula-
rity. If the noble earl wished to renew the motion made
by him a few evenings ago, he would listen with the
utmost attention to his arguments ; and it was from no
want of respect to him he now declined to go into mat-
ters so extraneous to the subject now in hand. As to the
advice which the noble earl gave in sending out a pleni-
potentiary, the noble earl had not been correctly in-
formed as to the motives which induced her Majesty to
take that course, but he concurred with him as to the
propriety of the proceedings which the Government
should undertake, and though it wool' not be right to
explain what were the precise instructions which bad
been given, he would say that they did not in effect
differ from the opinions of the noble earl, and he thought
they were likely to place the relations between this coun-
try and Chims on a satisfactory footing in regard to the
substantial interests of this country.

cheers.)
Lord PALMERSTON said—Sir, I a'n sure that I
am but the faithful organ of the opinions of every mem-
ber of this house when I assure you that it is with the
deepest regret—(hear, hear) —that we have heard the
announcement that has fallen from you. It is no compli-
ment to you, nor any flattery, to say that I believe there
never sat in that chair any man who combined a greater
degree of all those various qualities which should consti-
tute a speaker of the house—(cheers) —and with the regret
which I am sure every member must feel at losing you r
services for the future roust be mingled sentiments t.f
deep gratitude. (Cheers) I trust that the house wi I
net, on the present occasion, enter into any e_-
pression of those feelings, , which every man
here present must entertain, and I give. notice
that I shall to-morrow, before the commencement of
public business, move an expression of the thanks of
the house to you, sir, and an appropriate address to the
Crown on what we have just beard. (Cheers.)
PUBLIC BUSINESS.
Lord PALMERSTON moved, pursuant to notice,
that on Thursday orders of the day take precedence of
notices of motion.

The Earl of MA.LNIESBURY thought it highly de-
sirable that a plenipotentiary should ba sent out in lieu
of Sir J. Bowring. He had heard that the treaties be-
tween France and China were about to be renesed, and
he hoped measures would be taken to place England on
the footing of the most favoured nation. But certainly
he did 'not think that could be done unless a man of
superior diplomatic experience to Sir J. Bowring were
sent out.
The Earl of SHA.FTESBURY replied. If the law
officers of the Crown were of opinion that the present
state of things were sanctioned by law, then he would.
endeavour to have such an abomination expunged from
the statute book.

Agreed to.
COMMISSION OF SUPPLY (SCOTLAND) ACT
(1856) AMENDMENT BILL.
This bill was read a third time and passed.
WAYS AND MEANS.

The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH wanted to know
what it was the law officers of the Crown were to inquire
into I Their opinion would entirely depend upon the
case put before them.
The LORD CHANCELLOR—The noble earl who
made this motion wanted to have the opinion of the law
officers of the Crown upon a certain state of facts—
whether they were legitimate or illegitimate.
The Earl of ELLENBOROIIGH—What facts ?
The Duke of ARGYLL—The facts contained in the
printed matter on their votes, and which they were new
discussing.
The Earl of DERBY wished it to be distinoLly under-
stood that the House of Lords would not in the slightest
degree be responsible with respect to any
answer which
might be given by the law officers of the Crown.
Earl G RANVILLE—The case was this. On his as-
suring the noble earl who had brought forward this mo-
tion.that the opinion of the law officers of the Crown
would be taken upon certain fact-1 the noble earl with-
drew his motion. But if any noble lord wished to take
the sense of the house upon the motion as it stood on the
votes, it was perfectly competent for him to do so. If the
noble earl were satisfied with the good faith of the Go-
vernment that the opinion of its law officers would be ob-
tained, then he could see no reasonable objection to that
course.
The Earl of DERBY—The noble earl might with-
draw his motion if he chose, but the house had nothing
to do with the conditions of withdrawal.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said this discussion
showed very clearly how ignorant was the British Lo

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER brought
up the report, which was agreed to.
INCOME TAX BILL.

On the motion for the second reading of this bill,
Mr. DISRAELI said—lt appears to me from what I
read that we really are at war, and I don't suppose
that anybody anticipates that we are not at war with
China. I therefore think it better at once to place our
position before the house, so that we shall not indulge
in any of those dreams of economy and of administrative
improvements.in which we have indulged. Those dreams,
I am afraid, are past. I therefore do not feel myself jus-
tified in offering any opposition to the measure now be-
fore the house, as I consider it absolutely necessary that
her Majesty's Ministers, whoever they may happen to
be, must have a sufficient surplus to carry on thestruggle
in which we are now, I think, unhappily embarked.
There is another reason for not pressing up3n the house
that modification of the income tax which I otherwise
would have thought it my duty to bring forward. The
house the other night agreed to an increase of indirect
taxation, and in the face of that decision I should bevel y
Averse to increase direct taxation. But that I think is of
very little importance in the face of the very ciitical
state of our foreign affairs, and the policy to be pur-
sued with regard to the China war, which may be of sc m'i
length, and must be of considerable expense. I with that

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those who are always pressing for a reduction of taxa-
tion would consider how far that mist depend upon tho
management of our external relations. Now, we have
gone to war with Persia without the knowledge of Par-
liament, and we recently bad the satisfaction of
being informed that peace with Persia was concluded.
So far as we can asositlin, these are the facts : Ist, that
the war with Persia was occasioned by a cause too con-

tern ptible and shameful to be mentioned. Eitaei that was
the real cause of the war, or it was not. If it was the real
cause, it appears to he part of a system to distract the
attention of the country from domestic legislation to mat-
ters occurring in every part of the world. But adopting
that as the real and genuine cause of war, what has oc-
curred? In consequence of our going to war with Persia,
negotiations, as I am informed, took place between the
British Government and the Persian authorities at Con-
stantinople, and certain terms were offered for our accept-
ance, w.hich were refused. After this refusal a vast expen-
diture was incurred. Fresh negotiations for peace then
occurred beta-eon Great Britain and Persia, and these
negotiations were successful—ia what manner, and by
what mean:? As I am informed, virtually by our accept-
ing at Paris what we refused at Constantinople. Now,
what I want to know is, how much it has cost the coun-
try by the rejection of those terms at Constantinople.
Why, if we take this quarrel with Persia, I can hardly
suppo. a it would cost the country less than half a million
of money. Why, sir, if we have half a dozen of these diffi•
culties every year, and average them at half a million each,
I want to know how the 7il. in the income tax is to be
reduced; because four difficulties at 500,000/. each, weuld
amount to a twopenny income tax, and not only will the
savenpenny tax rersain, but there will be every prospect
of the "popular" ninepence being retained. Now, after
the Persian difficulty, we have the Chinese difficulty,
which no one can suppose will be satisfied with one penny
in the income tax, and from which if we get off for a mil-
lion we must suppose we must get well off. But as we
are going to the beatings, and will be asked by our con-
stituents t reduce taxation—when we find persons com-
pelling tax-3i upon tea and sugar, let us ask them, before
they uompiain of thosaturdens, whether they do sanc-
tion and approve that turbulent and aggressive system
of diplomacy which is so costly to this country, and which
really is the cause of our not being ahle to reduce our in-
come tax to that measure of moderate amount which the
country bas a rig'et to expect. 'For my part, I believe we
have a duty to perform—to support the Government of
this country, of whatever elements it may be formed,
who placed the country in the difficulties in which it now
finds itself. This time we are at war with China, and how-
ever we may deplore that war, we must pursue it till we
-can bring those lamentable proceedings to, a close more
consistent with the interests of the country and humanity.
But, under present circumstances, I no longer feel justi-
fied in oppeeing the'bill of the right hon. gentleman the
Chancellor of the Exchequer, or any motion which can
tend to reduce the resources at the disposal of her Ma-
jesty's Government. I lament the necessity I am com
pelled to pursue. lam in the hope the-feeling of the
country will force the Government to pursue a more con-
ciliatory policy to foreign countries— a policy which,
while it maintains the honour, and dignity, and true in-
terests of this country, shall not be calculated to outrage
the feelings of every foreign State, for until that is done
I am convinced that the burden of our taxation and ex-
penditure will probably be increased.
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After P nine r:•nr.,rke from Mr. B. COCIIRANH,
Mr. WILLLIMS cumpli.ined of the tax being enn.
tinned on itteornes ❑nder 1501.

Majm. REED impressed on the Government that
mu4t be a readjustment of this tax.
Mr. MUNTZ said that the country would not be
satisfied w:th the present modification of the tax.

Sir G. STRIOTZLAND c.,inplained of the inquisi-
torial natur.: of tLe tax, which was one that ought not
to be cont'nned in the time of peace.
Dr. MICSELL also compl tined of the inequality of
the tax.

Lord PALMERSTON said—Sir, I cannot avoid
saying a few words in reply to the observations made by
the tight hon. gentleman the member for Bucks (Mr,
Disraeli) with respect to the vote which the right hon.
gtntleinan is going to give. I thank him for the vote
which he is going to give ; but I cannot offer my thanks
for the reasons which he sayli make him ready
to vote for the continuance of the income tax.
(Hear, hear) What the right hon. gentleman
said reminded me of what was once said of a Chief jus-
tice of Canada who was not very learned in the law.
When he aAed a friend what he should do in a particu-
lar case, the answer was, " Give your decision, because
you are a man of good sense, and your decision will, no
doubt, be right ; but take care youelo not give your rea-
sons, because they will, in ad probability, be wrong."
(tavelter.) I should be glad if tha right" hon. gentleman
will tell us whlit he means when be says that he will vote
for the income tax, because it has been rendered nacos_
nary by the turbulent and aggressive policy of the Go-
vernment. Does he mean that war in which, with many
allies, we were engaged against Russia ? Was this a part
of that turbulent and aggressive policy, or does he mean
the peace which followed the termination of that war as
being an aggressive policy ? Does he mean our present
state of relations—upon their present footing, with France,
Austria, Sardinia, and tlaeUnited States—are to be taken
as a proof of this turbulent and aggressive policy ? Or
does he mean the treaty lately entered into with the
United States, and which I trust will settle all points of
difference between the twe countries? Is that to be termed
an aggressive and turbulent policy? But the right hon.
geliCeman refers to the war with Persia, which he says
is a shameful case. That war, however, arose from the
turbulent and aggressive policy of the Government of
Persia, who invaded and seized upon Herat, in defiance
of distinot and solemn engagements entered into with
this country ; and every man who knows the value of
our Indian Empire, anti who knows our position in the
East, will say we were right in endeavouring to prevent
a violation of that treaty. Well, then, does the charge
of turbulent and aggressive policy against the Govern.
ment rest entirely upon our position in China ? Is that,
an aggressive policy which has been exemplified by the
burnings, the poisonings, the assassinations, and all
those other cranes which have been committed by the
Chinese against British subjects ? 1 suppose that is
what the right hon; gentleman means by the turbulent
and aggressive policy of the Government. In
fact, tho bon. gentleman sees that we are
all going to our eleciioos, and no doubt his object in
making these statements is in order that they may tell
upon the hustings; but I warn the right hon. gentleman
that this cry of turbulent and aggressive policy will not
be a successful cry for him and his friends. The people
of this country are far too clear-sighted to be led away
by such a cry as that. (Hear.) I have no doubt that the
people of this country will give answers when the ques-
tions are put to them which will not be in favour ot or
agreeable to the right hon. gentleman and those who act
with him. (Hear, bear.)
• Mr. GLADSTONE was not aware that a discussion
upon the Income Tax Bill would take such a wide range,
and that questions of such great importance would -be
brought forward. The noble lord at the head of the Go-
vernmeht had addressed something like a general chal-
lenge to the house, but he did not think the house would
wish to enter upon a discussion of the foreign policy of the
Government, and be did not wish to enter into or renew
those warm and keen debates which had lately taken
lace ; but at the challenge had been thrown out, he
could not refrain from stating that it was his decided
conviction that a very material connection existed be
tween the foreign policy of the Government and the ex-
cessive taxation of the country. The noble lord had put
the question upon the different branches of this foreign
policy, and he bad ventured to anticipate that judgment
which the country would have to give. The noble lord
said that the right hon, gentleman the member for Bucks
had made his speech with reference to the busting.; ; but
he (Mr. Gladstone) did not think it would be a cruel and
unwarrantable reply to say that the noble lord's was
made with a similar view. (Hear.) This must be an im
perfect discussion upon these questions ; but he must
say with regard to one of them—that relating to Persia
—he was sorry, for the sake of all parties—for the sake
of fairness to xards the Government and for the interests
of the country—that the Government had not shown a
greater disposition than had been shown for a thorough
sifting of this question in that house. It was said that
the war arose in consequence of the turbulent and ag.
gressive petcy ot the Persian Government ; but there
could be no doubt that a difference ef opinion prevailed
with a great portion, if not with the majority, in that
house ; and his belief was that a different sentisym,bleaencatawlniagoset
discussedettter ta entertainedthis
by-theru at people.terio tuHe regrettede House
o f e tohmatintohne
ooif wtihthehorilgdhintgu
and
had been
iienehved a de
house. Theruorhgsoaantei.do membern for Lanark-
tprivilegesestimates
e bad
dht
shire (Mr. B.- Cochrane) had expressed great anxiety
for the Government ja teu
ntttoofh ignorance renew new relations with the Govern-
ment
(M r .
i nh
w Gladstone)which
theywo u d
remained notu n
-
derta koef,
in
'with regard torthe Neapolitan papers, to giveany
recommendation upon that subject. The whole of these
proceedings rested upon the responsibility' of the Govern-
ment. He regretted the miscarriage of the measures
adopted, which had, be thought, been founded uppn an
inadequate consideration of the many difficulties thet
Government had had to deal with. He bad the deepest
convictien that these measures had led to no mitigation
of
of the evils endured by the sufferers in the kingdom
of humanity, liberty, and order, and _
endured by inno-
Naples. If for a moment he put ()lit olfoosikgehdtmtneereclayuuset
the undue tend miserable afflictions
n an ill- he
thought
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