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London, England, 1835-06-19 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

110 USE OF LORDS, ANX 18.

Lord DENMAN took his seat on the Woolsack at five o'clock.
The second reading of the Highways Bill was postponed till
the 26th of the present month.
The Earl of RO SEBE RY presented a petition against
any further grant for the endowment of the Church of Scotland.
A message from the Commons, by Mr. Tooica and others,
Vrought up the Grosvenor Paving and Lighting Bill, Moore's
Divorce Bill, and some Private Bills, which were severally
read a first time.

Papers were presented by Mr. Crafer from the Treasury.
The London and Birmingham Railway Bill was read a third
time and passed.
The Bishop of EXETER moved for a return of the Rev.
Mr. Stoney's answers to the queries of the Public Instruction
Commissioners in Ireland.—Ordered.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented two petitions
from Wilts and Bristol against dram-drinking, and praying that
no beer-shop should be licensed to sell beer on the premises.
The House then adjourned till to-morrow morning.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, JuNB 18.
Committees to try the Belfast and Carnarvon election peti-
tions were to have been balloted for this day, but the parties
for the petitions not appearing, the order for their considera-
tion was discharged. The gallery was opened at a quarter
past four.

Mr. STRUTT brought up the report of the Committee on
the Monmouth election petition, declaring that the sitting
Member, Benjamin Hall, Esq., had been duly elected, but
that the petition was neither frivolous nor vexatious.
Sir R. MUSG RA VE presented a petition from Lismore,
in the county of Waterford, complaining of Grand Jury rates.
Mr. ROBINSON presented a petition from two individuals,
named Pincher, proprietors of a vessel which had beer, wrecked
near Dover. A portion of the property saved from the wreck
had been carried to Dover, and was in the possession of the
Warden of the Cinque Ports. More than twelve months had
elapsed before the petitioners became informed of where their
property was, and in consequence of its not having been claimed
within that time it was now altogether withheld. The Hon.
Member said that if this was the iaw it was, in his opinion, a
very unjust one.
Mr. HUME had never known property of this description
to he withheld from the owner if properly identified.
Mr. STRUTT presented petitions from Derby, praying for
a removal of the taxes on newspapers, and others in favour of
vote by ballot and Municipal Reform.
Mr. ROEBUCK and Mr. HUME presented petitions in
favour of a removal of the stamp duties on newspapers.
Mr. ALSAGER presented petitions from Surrey, which,
from their numerous signatures, and the respectability of the
parties whose names were attached to them, merited the con-
sideration of the House. One of these petitions had reference
to a resolution affecting the Church of Ireland, which had
lately been carried in that House. The petitioners prayed of
the House to pause before it appropriated Church property in
Ireland to any other than strictly ecclesiastical purposes. The
other petition which he had the honour to present was in favour
of the grant to the Church of Scotland. When he considered
how small was the sum required, and the purposes to which it
was proposed to be devoted, namely, administering to the
spiritual wants of the poor in that country, he confessed he was
surprised at the opposition that was made to the grant.
Major BE AUCLERK freely admitted the respectability of
the petitioners, but he was sure that the Hon. Member who
presented the petition would not say that it represented the
bulk of opinion in the county of Surrey. The petition bore
2,000 signatures. He had heard of it before, and indeed it
was so much talked of that he expected to find in it a proof of
re-action, in seeing 6,000 or 8,000 names attached to it. So far
from a re-action having taken place in Surrey, he felt con-
vinced that if he got up a petition of a contrary character, he
could soon procure 8,000 or 10,000 signatures to it. As to
the resolution of the Noble Lord (Russell), its being carried
into effect would rather tend to serve than to injure the Pro-
testant religion.

Mr. FR—ESHFIE LD said that if the Hon. Gentleman
(Major Beauclerk) waited until a dissolution of Parliament
took place, he would then learn what were the feelings and
opinions of the country upon the subject.
Mr. E. BULLER presented a petition from certain occu-
piers of land in Staffordshire, complaining of the misapppro-
priation of ecclesiastical funds.
Mr. FRENCH presented two petitions from Sligo, one
praying for an inquiry into the state of the Irish Fisheries, and
the other in favour of Church Reform.

Alderman WOOD presented a petition from the parish of
St. Dunstan's, complainining of church-rates.
CANADA.

Mr. ROEBUCK presented petitions from Canada, com-
plaining of the appointment of obnoxious officers and other
abuses existing in that colony. The Hon. and Learned
Member then passed some severe strictures upon the Canada
Land Association, which he said had been unfairly esta-
blished, through the means of a Bill smuggled through the
House, for the purpose of depriving the people of the Canadas
of their land, and jobbing it away for the benefit of specu-
lators in the mother country. He commented upon the recent
appointment of Lord Gosford to the Government of the Ca-
'lades' and the instructions with which he had been supplied,
which differed materially from those prepared on a similar oc-
casion by the late Government, and were wholly inadequate to
the purpose for which they were designed. He predicted
that the moment his Lordship planted his foot in the Canadas
all the people would fly from him, and disdain to lay their
grievances before him. The Hon. Member concluded by
contrasting the unfriendly and illiberal treatment experienced
by the agents of the Lower Canadas from the present Colonial
Government with the urbane and conciliatory conduct ex-
perienced on all occasions from the late Noble Secretary
( Lord Aberdeen), who, he said, had always shown himself
willing to listen to suggestions, even when partly informal in
their mode of communication.

Sir G. GREY said that, considering the importnnt and
painful nature of the subjects of the Hon. and Learned Mem-
ber's address, he hoped he should not be considered as acting
disrespectfully to the Hon. and Learned Member if he declined
at present from entering upon a discussion of the various po-
litical questions which it involved. He thought he should
best consult the true interests of all parties concerned by ab-
staining from a premature discussion of the dissensions which
unhappily existed between the mother country and her Cana-
dian Colonies—dissensions which it was the sincere desire of
the Home Government to have amicably and fairly accommo-
dated. With respect to the instructions furnished by the Co-
lonial Office to Lord Gosford, and which the Honourable and
Learned Member had said were not so good as those pro-
posed by the Noble Lord ( Aberdeen) for the Commission
which the late Government intended to have sent out, all that
he ( Sir G. Grey) would say was, that he was at a loss to
understand how the Honourable and Learned Member had
been able to form a judgment on the subject at all. The Hon.
and Learned Member might, for all he knew, have been is the
confidence of the late Government—( Hear, hear, and a laugh)
—and might have been shown the instructions prepared by
Lord Aberdeen for the Canada Commission, but the Hon. and
Learned Member certainly was not in the confidence of the
present Government, and had not seen their instructions in the
matter, and which he proposed to compare with those of their
predecessors in offine.—( Hear, hear.)
Mr. ROBINSON said that, as Chairman of the Canada
Land Association, he felt bound to say a few words in reply
to the animadversions cast by the Hon. and Learned Member
for Bath upon that body, whose object he ( Mr. Robinson)
maintained was a perfectly fair one, and he thought a very
useful one. They did not wish to deprive the native Cana-
dians of what was their right, but merely proposed to culti-
vate lands which they were not able or willing to turn to good
account themselves. With regard to the charge of the Hon.
and Learned Member, that the Bill which incorporated this
association had been unfairly smuggled through the House, he
could only observe what he thought would place the Hon.
and Learned Member in a very awkward predicament with
his Canadian constituents, namely, that the Honourable and
Learned Member was a Member of the House at the
time the Bill was passed, and that during eleven weeks
the proceedings of the Bill were constantly being announced
on the papers of the House. This being the fact, it was cer-
tainly also true that either the charge of unfairly smuggling
the Bill through the House was false, or the Hon. and Learned
Member would have objected to it at the time, or that the
Hon. and Learned Member had neglected his duty in suffering
the Bill to pass without exposure and opposition, and now
sought to relieve himself from the onus which attached to
that neglect, by alleging that something like unfair means had
been adopted by the supporters of the Bill to smuggle it
through the House.—( Hear, hear, hear.) In conclusion he
could not but express the strong sense of regret he felt at
beholding the course of constant agitation and irritating in-
terference which the Hon. and Learned Member for Bath
persisted in keeping up upon the subject of the alleged
grievances between the Canadian colonies and the mother
country. No good possibly come of such a course of proceed.
ing, whilst a more temperate and cordial co-operation with
those who wished to effect an amicable adjustment between
the parties might probably lead to the desired result.
Mr. HUME said he would repeat, for the twentieth time,
that no good could be done, and no terms of adjustment be
listened to by the Canadians, until a separate and independent
legislature, having the entire management of their affairs and
their funds, was secured to them—a boon which, in England,
by the Bill now before the house on the subject, was about to
be awarded to every petty corporation in the kingdom. Let
this be done, and the Government of this country would be
troubled no more with the grievances of the Canadian settlers;
and nothing but aceleenations of loyalty and gratitude would be
heard from their shores. He maintained that the Canada
Land Association was an unjustifiable infringement of the
natural rights of the Canadians to the enjoyment of their native
soil. By means of this Company the land of the Cenadas was
sold by speculators, and the proceeds appropriated not to the
benefit of the Canadians themselves, but for all sorts of jobbing
purposes, under the auspices of the Colonial Secretary in
Downing-street. His Hon. and Learned Friend the Member
for Bath was not to blame for having suffered the Bill for the
ineorperat;en of this society to pass without opposition. The
Bill tis as brought in as a private Bill ; and He, members
could not be supposed to have their attention fixed upon every
private Bill which came before the House, even though it was
entered
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Mr. strongly deprecated the interference
of rn
t House to support or instigate a spirit
of insurrection in Canada. thenoticesi c
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The Gentleman who was hins.--If
delegate of the of
Canadian complainants, was highly pleased
with the mode in which ywe
o the affairs of the colon re taken
up by the Government. Surely the statement of the Hon.
Gentleman, that the condition of the colony
es a most den-
gerous one, was in itself dangerous, by leading to, if not
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en-
couraging, revolution. There was much evidence given be-
forewou not be for the general
the Committee, which it
awl to publish. As to Mr. Neilson? he stated that the House