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London, England, 1835-08-10 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, MONDAY, AUGUST 10, 1835.

petition was only the petition of the individual signing it.
The Duke of CUMBERLAND observed that the Noble
Marquis was in error, as to the number of days the House had
been occupied in evidence.
,I",!The Marquis of WESTMINSTER—At any rate great
delay has taken place in the proceeding of the Bill.
liThe Duke of WELLINGTON—The delay is only from
Monday to Saturday.
The Marquis of WESTMINSTER—The Bill would have
been through the House ten days earlier, had it not been for
the course adopted.

The Duke of WELLINGTON thouebt
of such public importance ev • u a 111CaSure
essentially
j step ought to be taken that was

-,*46"... SCOTCH CHURCH COMMISSION.
IThe Earl of ABERDEEN, after presenting a petition
from Paisley in favour of the Church of Scotland, begged
to call the attention of the Noble Marquis opposite to a few
facts connected with the Church Commission appointed to
enquire into the Church of Scotland. The nomina-
tion of that Commission bad been received by the
people of Scotland with great alarm, many of its members
being persons who professed what was called the voluntary
system, who bad published works recommending those princi-
ples. He (the Earl of Aberdeen) thought Mini,qers
were not friends of the Church to appoint such men, and he
trusted the Noble Viscount would take the subject seriously
into consideration.

Lord MELBOURNE defended the conduct of the Com-
missioners, and observed, had not the Commissioners been corn-
posed of such men as the Noble Lord had adverted to, he should
Clink it ill calculated to discharge the duties it had to perform.
The Earl of MINTO was attached to the Scotch church,
and supported the petition, believing that church to be as
safe as ever she was.

The Duke of BUCCLEUCH said that many persons
had expressed their alarm at the eottipnition of this Corn
iression, and he trusted the Noble Viscount would liy the
ACF
report of that Commission upon the shortly.
oFlot PAR A T I
Lord S (..)1,-4 REFORM.
Tit
presented a petition from Poole in
favour of the C-,,.potation Reform 13i11. The petitioners coin-
plained tl•
the Corporation of Poole consisted of a Mayor
7..:1 four Magistrates, who were permanent, self-elected, and
all related, and partners in business. This petition was signed
by 700 persons.
Lord EL LENBOROUG H said, as their Lordships had
declined hearing any more evidence against the Bill, they
should not hear any more in favour of it.—(Laughter.)
Lord RA DNOR could not see either the wisdom or the
justice of the remark made by the Noble Baron who had just
sat down, and he hoped their Lordships would abstain from
discussions upon every petition offered in favour of the Bill, for
they would be so numerous, he believed, that if their Lord-
ships wished to put off the Bill by delay they could accomplish
their purpose that way. The petition he rose to present was from
Gravesend, in favour of the Bill, signed by 360 persons, of whom
10 are members of the Corporation. The Noble Lord also
presented another petition to the same effect from Rochester,
signed by 1,162 individuals, at a public meeting held on Friday,
which the opposite party attempted to defeat, by publishing a
hand-bill, about an hour before the time of meeting, stating that
it was postponed. Among those who :signed it were 104
Municipal Freemen.
The Archbishop of CANTERBURY brought up the 15th
report of the Comm!ssioners for building Churches.
Lord LONSDALE presented a petition from Carlisle
against the Corporation Reform Bill.
Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from the city
of Oxford, in favour of the Bill, and complaining of the state-
ments made by the witnesses at the bar of the House,
which they were ready to rebut and disprove. It was signed
by a great number of tradesmen, booksellers, printers, paper
manufacturers, watch makers, &c. The Noble Lord also pre-
sented petitions to the same effect from Beverley, Warrington,
Newport (Isle of Wight) and Bristol.
Lord DACRE presented a petition from Yeovil to the
same effect, and explained that a petition from Devizes, pre-
sented last week, was in favour and not against the Bill, as
had been erroneously stated in some of the public papers.
MANCHESTER PETITION.

Lord MELBOURNE then rose to present the petition
of which he had given notice, from Manchester, in favour of
the Municipal Corporation Bill. The Noble Viscount stated,
that the petition had been signed by upwards of 22,832
persons in the short space of ten hours. His Noble
and Learned Friend had stated ample reasons why
in the presentation of petitions their Lordships should confine
themselves to stating shortly the facts connected with them.
The petition was signed by the greater portion of the respect-
able inhabitants of Manchester, which, to his mind, and which
he thought to the mind of their Lordships, would show the ne-
cessity of this great and important measure.
Lord BROUGHAM had been requested to support the
petition. The reason, and the only reason, why the peti-
tioners did not adopt that, which certainly was the beat
and the most usual course, namely, calling a meeting,
was than there was not time to call or give notice of a public
meeting.—(Cheers.) So urgent did the petitioners consider
the case.

The Duke of NEWCASTLE said that as the Noble Lord
seemed to have attached so much importance to the petition by
giving notice of it,.he thought it right to read a letter he had
received from a good Conservative of Manchester, stating
the improper manner in which the petition had been got
up. The letter stated that the Radicals of the town
were getting up a petition in favour of the Corporation Bill,
in consequence of the spirited majority of the House of Lords,
The petition was got up by putting tables at the corner of the
streets, and persons who could hardly sign their names, men
and boys, were requested to sign, and if they stated
their inability to do the person who stood at the table signed
for them. The writer then went on to say, that he trusted his
Grace would state the circumstances to the House of Lords.
Such, continued the writer, had been the effect of the con-
duct of the blessed House of Commons.—( A laugh.) The
Noble Dnke observed that the writer was not a great scho-
lar—(Laughter),—but still his statements were to be relied
upon.

(LEFT SPEAKING.)

The Memorial from Manchester (which will be
found in another column) was presented to Lord
Melbourne this afternoon, at three o'clock, by the De-
putation who brought the petition from Manchester to
the Lords, praying them to pass the Corporation
Reform Bill without mutilation or delay, and were
most graciously received. They were accompanied in
the presentation of it by the Right Hon. C. Poulett
Thomson, M.P., Mark Philips, Esq., M.P., Joseph
Brotherton, Esq., M.P., Richard Potter, Esq., M.P.,
Charles Hindley, Esq., M.P., and C. J. S. Walker,
Esq. •

PRICES OF CANALS, DOCK STOCKS,

ASSURANCE COMPANIES, &c. &c. &c.

LONDON, FRIDAY, AUGUST 7.
Number Dividend Pece
of rcir CANALS. per
Shares. Ann Um. Paid. Snare.
1,71,0 61 per cent. Ashton and Oldham...:Average 97g. 18s, sh. 160
1,482 61, Ashby de.le-Zouch .. Average 110/, sh, 65
4'261 Basingstoke l6O/. sh. 51
1,0)5 54 Breeknock -rn) Abergavenny 110 . sh. P 5
4,00 tish. EY. 101. Birmingham, i share 171. 10s. 248
4,00 q Ditto and Liverpool Junct....it.o/. sh. all pd
Be) Bridgewater and Taunton ...,1001. sh. all pd lit
• 400
.ti. Chelmer and 13lackwater .. lOOl. alt. 102

SOO 421. Coventry 'ON. sh.
4,5'6 Croydon Avertvge 311.45. 10d, sh.
2,06411 31. 10s. Dudley
61,0 6/. Drtby 1001. sh. 120
3,5751 Ellesmere and Chester Average 1331. sh. 69
231 4,1:. Erewash O,l. sh. 483
1,3,7 c-W.: Forth anti Cl)* .t ..... Average 1004 l!,s. sh. 6th
11=1„501,,, 121; , lkantl-.Tnnetionti.....:,. 'ii 12' 4 str. - F-2,1,
.- sTir• '• ' Grand Union ' ' '
.. . • littsh. -24

1.5 1' Grand Surrey
120,0001. 4/. per cent. Ditto (optional) Loan lOO4 73
3,1,06 Grand Western
600 134 Es. 58. Glamnrgansh i re, Average cost 172/. 13s, 48. 280
1,1160 Gloucester and Berkley 19114 at!. 141
719 10s. Grantham -1504 eh. 2(1
6,238 1/. 10s. Iluddersti. Id Average 571. 6s. 68. sh. 34
100 Kclieltigt.,n
25,333 I/. K.crinct and Avon, Average 394 Bs. 10d. sh. 201
2;8161 21,4 Leeds and Liverpool ..... . o ...... ~101,1. sh, 525
515 124 Leicester
907 41, Lett:Teter and Northampton... Aver 634 11)s. SO
550 54 per cent. Liskeard and IA)oe Union 25/. sh. all pd. 25
70 1411, Lought.orough Average 1421. 17s. oh. 1020
2,409 11. Monmouthshire ...........................1011(, eli. 180
250 94 Melton Mowbray IN/ sh. IS :0
51'0 2.34 Mersey and Irwell lOO4 sh, 56)
3,1.00 Macclesfield lOW. oh all pd, 56
247 - 15/. Neat h 100/, sh
100 Nene Navigation Bonds ...11411. sh. UT/. pd. 100
1,7,4; 3.24 Oxford lO4, sh, 610
522 2/. Oakharn l3O/ Mi. :,8
2,400 41. Peak Forest .. Average about 181. sh, 106
21,418 14s. Regent's (or London) Aver. 33/. 11$. ed. sh, 151
5,n,11 M. per cent. llochdale Average 851. sh. 541
500 84. Shropshire 1251. ..b. 110
800 104 Somerset Coal 1504 sh. 1(13
45,1004 61 iwr cent. Ditto Lock Fond Stock ..... ....... 12/ :Os. sh. 121
700 36/. Stafford and Worcester l4 1 sh. 690
500 114 Shrewsbury ,.,,,1251 sli, 2421
300 84 Stourbridge
3,6-17 1/. IN. Stratford.on.Av .I.... Average 79/. 9s Sd. al. r,tl
533 134 Swansea 100/. oh. 206:1,762 14 Severn and Wye and Railway ...Av IV. sh.
2,60. 2 st,, 324 10s. Trent anti Mersey, 1 share Mt sh. 625
8,110 ... ...... Thames and Medway...Aver. UPI. ss. Bd. sh. 2
1;000:11.7 ,s, Warwick and Birmingham 100/. sh. 2,80
"(6::::.5 3is. 10. Worcester and Birmingham...A v. 7811. t. ss
11 : . 21886
040 12,. Warwick and Napton
21, ea) hs• Wilts and Ben .. Average 101. 17$. 84.1. sh. 5
to) 6/. Wyrley and Essington 1254 sh 75
126 Wisbejch lO5/. sh. 45
905 l/ Wey and Arun llO/. sh. 221
DOCKS.
2'600 8' I3p. C. Commercial ' 100/. sh. CO
1,065;5h
Stock 4
Stock 571
.'1.39;238'(,:37(1)i. '..!/...g...);. ct. LE
Ditto Bonds
oasntdlonnclia
103
1,390,0004 54 per ct. West India
2,109 3/. 6s. 4,1. Bristol Average 1471. L,2. sh.
61,3241. 51. per cent. Ditto Notes, various amounts ..., ........... ii,
1.952,752 3 per cent. St. Katharine Stock 70
500,000 41 per cent. Ditto Bonds .................. 1041
200,000 4 i•er cent. Ditto Bonds for 10 yea is. .......................... 104
Shoreham Harbour
BRIDGES. 2571
~60) 14 Hammersmith 5Ol, A. 23
7,231 Southwark, Old Av. 63/. '-'B. 8 t i
- . • 611, , 24
1,700 1/. 15s. Ditto, New, of 71 per cent. ......... .504 sh. 15
5,000 .... .4
t 1.... Waterloo lOOl. sh. 24
5,000 Is. Ditto, Old Annuities 0184 ,(504 ix) 425
5,000 193. :3d. Ditto, New Ditto of 71 404 pd 22
Albion
60,0004 51. per cent. Ditto Bonds ........................... . ........ ... .. 118
6,000 14 Vauxhall Average 701. 103. 3d. Id,: 221
, ASSURANCE COMPANIES.
500/ sh
• • 504 pd 76i
502,^^^1° LC 5 aPe3inrdi°'7:l. t:} Alliance British & Foreign 1004 sh. 104 Pd hp.
50,000 6 per cent. Ditto, Marine 1004 sh. 54 pd 51
24,000 I'. per sh. Atlas
1,200;54, 44 Birmingham Fire
r,
12,000 514 per cent. rritish Commercial pd 6, j
5,00() ,5/. per Cent, Clerical, kttsdieel, kc. Life...looi j5Ol 611 2110 s pd 31

SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS.

Doubtless, when the Duke or Wellington cried
" Hold, enough," and proposed to close the evidence
against the Municipal Reform Bill, he perceived the
double blunder which his Rarty had rot-11;11.4010 lb-
sisting on tlie hearing. With very Carious dexterity,
by the same proceediil,
they
exposed the virulence of
their De— -
anti the rottennW of their c.ese—they
thusL pee. the peOpkl Warning of 'Melt eVil intentions,
and time to make such demonstrations of opinion as
might defeat them, The old soldier was the first to
see that this had been a false manceuvre, the 'Fabian
tactics being quite unsuited to the case of a hostile
people mustering into masses. The Duke had the sa-
gacity to discover, that ‘vhile the Town Clerks were
prating to no purpose but to make the Lords ridicu-
lous, the gathering cry "to the rescue,'' had gone
forth, and the toiiiitry was stirring. The great Cap-
talli Must too late have seen that the vastly ctinn.ng
device of his party had just had the effect of serving for
a beat to arms to P. hostile population. The expe-
dient fot delay had no other effect than to call out
the people against the spirit it manifested. The
Duke would now fain close the opportunity for the
expression of public opinion in favour of the
pending measure ; but the people will see the wisdom
of following up their success, and making the most of
the time before them. They may be assured that the
Duke was not so soon sick of hearing town-clerks,
but of hearing the loud and imposing voice cf the
people at the public meetings, which were so promptly
held. The town-clerks would have been suffered to
laud their Corporations till Christmas, but for the
voice that was rising out of the House. Had the
country slumbered, the evidence would have been pro-
tracted till the moment arrived when, emboldened by
the appearance of public indifference, the Lords felt
that they could venture to fling out the Bill. The ac-
tivity and zeal already displayed by the people have
made this experiment recoil, as we foresaw it would ;
but we must not stop here ; there must be no repose,
no relaxation of exertion upon this partial success.
The enemy falters—there is division in his ranks—and
some more spirited charges of public opinion might
now secure the victory, with its important fruits.
Meet, we say, and manifest opinion up to the very
last hour, and everywhere do what can be done quickly.
—Morning Chronicle.
A strong case of partiality, to give it the mildest
term, has been established at the bar of the House of
Lords last week, by the evidence adduced there against
the Municipal Corporations Commissioners, in their
mode of collecting information. In many cases it
has been proved that statements charging Corporations
with corrupt practices, have found their way into the
Commissioners' reports, without any coatradiction, al-
though they were flatly and unequivocably denied at
the time they were advanced ? Is this fair ? Why
should the Commissioners seek to feed prejudices,
which are already prolific enough ? But it would
seem that they had some end in view, which could
scarcely have occurred to each and all, unless their at-
tention had been previously directed to it. Abuses
in abundance exist in all human institutions, without
having recourse to fancied ones ; and had the Com-
missioners confined their inquiries to the former, they
need not have dwelt so much upon the latter. As the
matters now rests, the Commissioners stand committed.
Let any impartial person look through the evidence of
last week, and such, we are persuaded, will be his
conviction. Then, with respect to the allegations that
were strikingly put forth by parties favourable to the
Bill with its present provisions, accusing the House of
Lords with endeavouring to retard its progress, or get
rid of it by a side-blow ; let the facts be fairly stated,
and these charges will scattered to the winds. The
Duke of Wellington's candid avowal of the object
which lie and those who thought with him had in the
course pursued, is a refutation of such calumnies.
From what
_we stated on a former day, our readers will
be prepared to learn that the evidence was brought to
a termination on Saturday, notwithstanding some
" oracular" statements which had been industriously
circulated, that the investigation then carrying on at
the bar would continue for months, and the Session
would be prolonged to a very unusual period of the
year. Much yet, however, remains to be done in
Committee, but the progress of the Bill will not be
impeded, more than requisite to effect those improve-
ments which it is presumed will be made by their
Lordships. Of the principle of the Bill, we have
nothing to add, " Nihil dictum quod non dictum
pries;" and as to its detail, some of the objectionable
parts will be lopped off, no doubt, in the next stage of
the Bill—viz., in the Committee, which is fixed for
Wednesday.—Morning Herald.

The Government, so called Constitutional, of Louis
Philippe is said by all those who take an interest in
[ its continuance, to have originated in an experiment
made by the monarchy which preceded it, and of which
the purpose was to try how much insult and oppression
the people of France would endure from their go-
' vernors without effectual resistance. But Govern-
ments are known to be imitative animals, and we find
accordingly that Louis Philippe and his counsellors,
encouraged as well by the example of Charles X.,
as by the continued proofs of popular confidence and
favour which they have been in the habit of expe-
riencing from the only recognized organ of opinion in
their country—to wit, the public press—have an-
nounced their intention of turning to account the
recent .attack upon the lives of the King and his
family, rejecting the proffered affections of the people,
which seem to have been resuscitated by that event
after a long suspension, and trying how much more
extensively than ever they can create and spread among
the people such sentiments of implacable hatred and
disgust as those which might have been supposed to
provoke the criminal enterprise of the assassin Fieschi,
and how slender a safeguard they can leave themselves
against treachery in the respect, esteem, or gratitude of
the nation. We have already our opinion, that the in-
tended but disappointed murder of the King was a
golden opportunity for reconciling the Royal Govern-
ment to the liberal portion of the Erench people, for
endearing the dynasty of Louis Philippe, and esta-
blishing him and it in -the hearts of the whole Torrimu-
nity. A different course; however,' has tie•.i pursued.
The confidence of Frenchmen has been repelled, their
affections have been spurned, their fears have been ap-
pealed to, their dignity as rational creatures is to be
outraged, and the first right of man as an intellectual
being—that of freely expressing his thoughts, and
communicating his opinions to his fellow-citizens
in society—is to be inexorably crushed. The pro-
visions of the law against the press, which were
detailed in the Times of Friday last and Saturday,
arc perfectly frightful for their despotic and atro-
cious violence. A powerful and civilized people are
treated as if no man among them could open his lips
without betraying a secret on which depends the ex-
istence of the Monarchy. All discussions of the affairs
of Government arc capable of being construed into an
attack upon the principle or form of the Government,
and made punishable by an enormous fine, and by
perpetual imprisonment. All advantages derivable to
the subject from the publicity of trial by jury are abo-
lished—nay, the offences, or what the Government
may please to call offences, of the press, are withdrawn
from the jurisdiction of a jury, and at the option of the
Courtiers turned over to an inquisition of Peers, com-
posed of Ministerial creatures. An editor, convicted
through such machinery of one offence, is to be incapa-
ble ever afterwards of exercising his literary profession.
To deride (that is, to joke about) the King or his au-
thority may be punished with 4001. fine, and with a five
imprisonment. A censorship is to be restored for
emblems, and theatrical pieces. A person p .s •
tran-
sportedyerial7' may be sent to Africa or elsewhere. The
King's name must never be introduced in any pe.-
11601 discussion. The mere verbal expression of a
republican or Carlist sentiment subjects the party to
imprisonment. It mere endless to go on. No English
agine a state of things like this
;tialpposed that a people like the French, who
Government of Louis Philippe on the
ruins of a less 05ensive tyranny than that of which
established
tinna
we have now hinted
o, in their own creature an aggra-
vationl a few of the characteristics, will
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oised him to the Throne ?
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