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HOUSE OF COMMONS, JUKE 29.

Sir THOMAS BARING took the oaths and his seat as
Member for the county of Hunts.
Mr. Alderman WOOD brought in a Bill to establish 2,
day and night police in the city of London, which was
read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time.
Colonel JOHNSTONE presented a petition from Scar-
borough, praying that in the Bill to establish the Durham
University, a clause might be introduced, allowing non-
conformists to enjoy equal honours and privileges with ti,e
members of the Church of England.
Mr. STRICKLAND bore testimony to the respecta-
bility of the petitioners, and in supporting their prayer,
said, it would redound more to the credit and increase the
popularity of the Church of England, if the House were to
prevent any system of exclusion from being adopted.
Mr. BAILLIE preserved a petition, signed by mangy
thousand inhabitants of Bristol and its suburbs, praying
that in a Bill now before the House for a general enclosure
of common and waste land, there should be introduced
a clause to prevent the provisions of the Bill from extend-
ing to any common or waste land within five miles of
any town containing 10,000 inhabitants and upwards.
The inhabitants of Bristol were greatly interested in keeping
open the common land in their neighbourhood, and be
was happy to say, that in a conversation with the Chair-
man of the Select Committee, be had learnt that in the
immediate neighbourhood of large towns the privileges ai
present enjoyed by the inhabitants would not be infringed.
Mr. HUNT was glad the Hon. Member had called at-
tention to that Btll; he hoped, however, that the Hon.
Member would not be satisfied with doing justice to such
towns as Bristol and London, but would also do justice to
all other parts of the community.
Mr. D. BROWNE had a petition to present relative to
tithes, but as he could not agree in its prayer, he should be
under the necessity of explaining his reasons fully, and
for that purpose he gave notice that he would present
the petition on Wednesday next
Mr. BAILLIE presented a petition from the Corpora-
tion of Guardians of the Poor in Bristol in favour of a
Bill for repealing that part of the 59th Geo. HI , relative
to passing Irish vagrants.
Mr. SADLER presented two petitions from the town.
ship of Totlington, in the county of Lancaster, and from
the parish of Castleport, in the county of York, is favour
of the Factories' Labour Bill. The petitions were ordered
to be printed.
THE KING'S BENCH PRISON.

Mr. BRISCOE presented a petition from certain pri-
soners confined for debt in the custody of the Marshal of
the King's Bench. They called the attention of the House
to the important duties attending the office of Coroner,
not only as they were prescribed by law, but as those
duties were actually administered within the walls of the
prison. They atated•th'at the rules which ought to regu-
late the office of Coroner were perpetually broken ; the
examinations were taken by deputy, and not in person,
the Jury were partially and improperly chosen, con.
siating either of prisoners or of individuals wbo were sub.
ject to the influence of the Marshal. They stated that
which the House were about to remedy, viz., that the
Court was not an open one, and that no person was present
during the examination except those who were summoned by
the Marshal's officers, and in consequence a good deal of
evidence was suppressed which ought to be made known.
They also stated that one individual was incarcerated in
what was called the strong room—a place wholly unfit for
such a purpose—merely because he had been instrumental
in getting signatures to this petition. The petition de-
served the serious attention of the House, and he cordially
supported it.
Mr. HUNT felt greatly upon this petition, and was
most happy to give the Hon. Member and the petitioner,
his most ample support. If the prisoners within the walls
of the King's Bench prison complained of the treatment
they received in that place, how much more cause was
there for complaint on the part of prisoners con•
fined in other prisons of the country, where they had
not one hundreth part of the privileges that were enjoyed in
the King's Bench ! He trusted the Hon. Member who had
presented the petition, would take into consideration the
case of the prisoners in Horsemonger-lane Gaol.
Mr. S'f RICKLAND thought there inu,t be some tnistak
in the petition, because by an act which had lately pasaed
no prisoner was allowed to be a juror on an inquest, and,
therefore, if the allegations in the petition were correct,
case was made out of extreme illegality on the part of th

Coroner.
Mr, DRISCOE presented a petition from the Rector,

liable. The object of the second was CO vt,t the Church
Revenues in the Ecel,siistical Comtni,sioners ; and of the
third, the redemption of tithes by a land tax.
Mr. GOULBURN thought it but fair to inform the
Right Hon. Secretary that his conduct would very touch
depend on his seeing that means were propoird of insuring
pat m' to the Clergy until the whole question was
decided.

Mr. O'CONNELL unaffected!), avrced with the Right
Hon. Gent. (Mr. Goulburn). The Protestant Clergy were
entitled to be considered, hut at the s►me time a ►egula-
tion should be made that there should w,t in future be a
greater number of Protestant clergymen io Ireland than
the Protestants there required.
After a few observations from Sir C. WErHEILELL and
Mr. BLACKNEY,

Mr. RU rHVEN said that tlle Iligllt Hon. SufT,rary's
proposition in making a enmpuls—ry emnposiewn was illu—
sory. and he hoped it would rstrned, for he was
confident it would give great iiisi..tisfa,Co rn Irel .nd.

The petition was then orderei to pi iq.e I,
Lord KILLEEN then pre,ente !,titionB rrnm
Youghall, and from two parisla, c itL d Surie and Kul-
croon, and also a petition from Wolvvrharnutoo, praying
that the Reform Bill for Ireland might I), equally efficient
with that for England.
Sir H. PARNELL had understood that Government

intended to place the post office tamitnun'cition between
London and Paris on a better footing t: an at present,
and wished to know whether Nny sreps bit been taken to
meet the wishes of the French G %tern-tient on the sub-
ject. When last in Paris, he fount that the authorities
of the post-office there were most anxious to improve the
means of communication between the two countries. He
was afraid the delay arose on this side the water awl saw
no reason why there should not be a daily coinmunicatioa
between the two countries.
Mr. P. THOMSON bore testimony to the willing-
netts of the French Government to facilitate the 111e4119 of
communication between the two coatitriesi. Witlyn the
last few days a gentleman had arrived from Paris, 'de-'
pored by the French Post-.Zee, to hold col:mitotic aim)
with parties here, and he trusted an ewi %timid b• put to
the delay; and that before long me ins would bi, found to
establish a daily communication. Ceraio he was, that
it would be attended with a c insiderable ..avinr, and at
the same time would be of great importance to the
.public.
Mr. ROBINSON begged: to ask whether the reduwion
of the duty on British tonnage was to take place imme-
diately.
Lord PALMERSTON said it was.
Mr. STANLEY in moving the Order of the D:y for
the Third Reading of the Irish Reform Bill. said that
with regard to anrrher Bill--the Party Pr cessions in
Ireland Bill—he had every tvish that it should be brought
forward. But from what had petted I tat night, and frion
the nature of the opposition of lion. Gentlemen, who had
declared that they would fight it in every stage, he con-
ceived it would he impossib e to pass it into a law in suffi-
cient time.—(Hear, from Mr. O'Connell.) He was there-
fore, reluctantly induced to give up the assistance which
the Government would have had from the Magistracy._
He declared, however, that he lied no intention of alien-
, shining the Bill itself—hut he wished that the responsibi-
lity should rest on those Gentlemen who had declared their
intention of pertinatious'y opposing the Bill—on them,
and on them alone be the responsibility, or whatever might
take place on July 12. At the same time nothing would he
omitted by Government in taking care of the public peace.
Whatever should be done, would be left to common law ;
but he pressed on those Gentlemen who were so strnt.ely
in favour of these societies, particularly the Hon. Member
for Sligo, to exercise the iefluence which they possessed,
in order to prevent these processions; for if they took
place, it was not the Government that would be answer-
able for the consequences.
Colonel PERCEVAL, as he had been so pointedly
alluded to by the Right Hon. G;oitleman opposite, must
be allowed to make a few ohservations. The Right Hon.
Gentleman had thrown upon him and other Members the
responsibility likely to attach to whet might occur on
the 12th of July. It was very true that he had raid the
Magistrates of Ireland had much in their, pawer, but he had
never stated with respect to them what the Right Min.
Member bad represented. The Protestants of Ireland did
not deserve the opprEibrious epithets which had been east
against them. The measure in Ins opinion was one which
was too gross an insult to the Protestants of Ireland, and
all that he had done was to endeavour to parry off a mea-
sure of so insulting a nature. Ile would do his hest to
prevent any outrages taking place on that day, but he
was afraid that he should not be successful.
Mr. LEFROY was not at all Surprised that Govern-
ment should endeavour to throw off the responsiiiiity of to
iimprovident a measure as that which they were r: bout to
introduce. He, however, threw hack that responsibility
upon them ; if the measure was a proper one, it ought to

have been brought tot ward in time to insole its passing by
the 12!11 of July. He could not but express his r Bret
that the Richt lion. G•ntleman should have been betrayed
into an expression so indiscreet and calculated to excite
that party animosity which the Bill was intended to ex -
tineuish.

Mr. O'CONNELL was surprised at the course pur-
sued by the two Hon. Members who had spoken list.
I am 'desirous, continued Mr. O'Connell, that the Right
Hon. Gentleman and the Government should take a lesson
from what is occurring at the present moment; for they
may learn from it in how very different a spirit those who
belong to the popular party receive a concession frost
those who are represented by the two Hon. Gentlemen
who have just preceded me.—( Cheers.) Instead of ex-
pressing any pleasure at the concession—instead of thank-
ing the Government for it—instead of being gratified th it
their wishes are likely to be carried into effect, they have
received the boon with contempt, and have returned insn't
for roncession.—(Cries of no, no! and cheers.) Their
business ought to be to pour nil on the water, but instead
of that, they are blowing the flames into additional fury.—
( Cheers.) I, however, am determined to do my duty ; and
I here promise to address the Catholic population of the
north of Ireland in the strongest terms, for the purpose of
persuading them to go cut of the way ol those processions,
iso that, t possible, no blood may be shed ; and I also int-
plore the Gentleman on the other site to come forward,

and by their solicitations and advice, to do all in their
power to prevent mischief on the 12th of July.—(Hear,
hear.) I implore them to show by their conduct that they
know how to deserve this concession that the Government
has made.—(Hear, hear.) Setting aside political tlif
ferences, I know that there is not one Protestant Gentle-
man in Ireland who would not deeply lam-nt the circum-
stance of one single life being lost owing to these
processions.

- Lord ALTHORP—The Hon. and Learned Member for
the University has accused us of postponing this Bill to
the last moment ; hut the fact was, that it was not till
late in the Session that we knew that these processions
were likely to take place to such an extent as to endanger
the peace of Ireland. The Hon. Member fur Sligo Faye,
that though he will do his best to prevent these prnces•
aions, yet he is afraid that all efforts will be useless. Now,
I must say, that if this position is incorrect, it is ra►her
urious that be should b.tve arranged himself in opposition
against this measure, which is the only means by which
we could prevent what he himself admits to be an evil.—
(Hear.) The Hon. and Learned Member for Kerry has
assumed that this Bill is to be abandoned altogether.
There, however, he makes a mistake, for such certainly is
not the intention of Ministers. A constant complaint has
for years been made in this House of there being no legal
means of preventing these precessions ; and I therefore
think that this Bill having been brought forward, it is
now very desirable that it should pass into a law.

Mr. GOULBURN said that the Hon. Member for
Sligo had alway 4 been most anxious to prevent these pro-
cessions.

Mr. SHAW did not object to the principle of the Bill ;
but what he complained of was, that it was impartial in
its operation.

Sir R. PEEL regretted exceedingly to hear it stated
that there was any prospect to the public peace being
broken an Ireland on the 12th of July, but he trusted that
those who possessed influence in Ireland by their sta►ion or
their property, would not only individually exert them-
selves, but meet for the purpose of issuing unanimous ex-
hortations to the Protestants of Ireland—( Hear, hear)—to
prove that this law was not necessary, and to induce them
voluntarily to abandon that which would necessarily give
pain to others of the community.—(Heir, hear.) That
would be the rant triumph. The real triumph would he
to dispense with the necessity for this law altogether—
(Cheers)—and he felt confident that every Protestant
Gentleman would be ready to do all in his power to pre-
vent a collision, or the possibility of one single life being
lost.—(Hear, bear.) With respect to the 8.11 itselr, he
certainly was prepared to support its principle; hut never-
theless, he should have wished to see certain modifications
introduced; for instance, he would much rather that a
general power should have been vested in the lands of the
Lord-Lieutenant, in case of the public peace being en-
dangered, rather than this power should be left in the hands
of individual Magistrates. He perfectly agreed with the
H.'s. and Lesrned Member for Kerry, that if one life were
lost in the processions, those who took part in the proces-
sions ought deeply to lament it. He was averse to all
displays of physical force in civil life. He did not impute
bad motives to those who assembled in processions ; but
when thousands of persons met in arms, they set a bad
example to others who might not be so well disposed as
themselves. The Legislature having removed all disabi-
lities in Ireland, the object of all Irishmen ought to be to
put an end to those dissensions which the existence of
unequal rights had been calculated to excite, and to place
that country in the state of tranquillity from which alone
private safety and public prosperity could flow.
Sir F. TRENCH was very glad to find that the Hon
and Learned Member for Kerry, who had formerly been
so anxious to agitate Ireland, was now so anxious to
allay agitation.
Sir R. BATESON observed, that if Government had
not brought forward the Bill in question, the Gentlemen
of Ireland would have found it more easy to restrain the
the processions. Still, however, as the Hon. and Learned
Member for Kerry had said that he would use his power-
ful influence on the subject, he (Sir Robert Bateson)
trusted that there would be no collision of parties.
Mr. LEFROY, jun. said, that if the Right Hon. Chic!
Secretary bad failed in this, as in other measures which
he had brought forward, the responsibility rested solely on
that Right Hon. Gentleman and his Majesty's Government.
The Otder of the Day for going into a Committee on
the Irish Reform Bill having then been read,
Mr. O'CONNELL suggested that it might be expedient
to commit the Bill pro forma, for the purpose of receiv-
ing any amendments that the Right Hon. Gentleman
might suggest in it, and then to order it to be printed,
and take the discussion on Monday.
Mr. STANLEY did not think that the alterations were
so numerous or so extensive as to require the adoption t•f

suc6 a course.
The House then resolved itself into the Committee.

:qr. O'CONNELL propos( d an amendment, to omit
that part of the fourth clause which made the payment of
Grand Jury and Corporation cesses the test of quatification
for Registering; on the ground that those t-otes were sub-
ject to di.pute, and might be converted into the means of
oppression.

_
Mr. STANLEY could see no real ground for the pro-
posed alteration.
Mr. I.EFROY considered the objection of the Hon.
and Learned Member for Kerry unfounded ; but proposed
a verbal amendment to the clause.
Mr. CRAMPTON did not think it desirable to do
away with the principle of registration under considera-
tion ; for if it were relinquished, in many of the towns
of Ireland there would be little better than universal
suffrage. He denied that corporations in Ireland had any
direct power of taxing. They might tax obliquely,
through a Grand Jury ; but to do that there must be a
regular presentment, and a fiat by a Judge.
On the suggestion of Mr. O'CoNNELL, after some
conversation, the word " legally" was inserted in the
clause.

Mr. SHAW proposed the insertion of the word " rent."
—This was negatived, after some discussion.
Mr. SHELL proposed that the words after "all," in
the clause he omitted. The object of his amendment was
to permit the 101. freeholder to he able to vote, without
the proof of the payment of municipal and Church-rate..
Mr. D. BROWNLOW said, that if the proposed amend
meat was not adopted, the payment of these rates would
be regularly put off till an approaching election.
The Committee divided ; when there appeared—
For the Amendment 2t
Against it 59
Majority —3B

The clause was then agreed to.
Mr. DAWSON moved, that persons possessing free-
holds of 40s. in boroughs, and in cities that were coun-
ties of towns, should not have the liberty of voting as
freeholders for the counties in which those towns and
cities were situated. This alteration would but slightly
affect any towns that were not counties of themselves,
but those of Dungarvon and Mallow. The injustice,
therefore, if there was any in the proposition, would he
but small, while he thought it would he an act of justice
to the counties, and would be but a fair set-off to the dis-
franchisement which had taken place with regard to non-
resident voters in boroughs. If these voters were not dis
franchised, he could tell the House that fictitious votes
would be easily created for the purposes of county elec-
tions. An instance of this was to be found in the town
of Galway, where by one lease there were 200 freehold
tenants created. If the Hon. Member for Mayo pleased--
and he was sure the Hon. Member would not please to do
so—but it he did, he might snake Galway as close a nomi-
nation borough as ever Old Sarum or Gatton had been ;
and yet at this moment Galway was about to receive the
privilege of returning two Members to Parliament. Under
these circumstances he should move that the end of
clause 3, by which the forty shilling fieeholders in towns
were to have the right of voting in counties, should be
omitted.
Mr. RICE should oppose the proposition. If the Right
Hon. Gentleman sought to get rid of the possibility of
these absPe+, and would propose a clause to destroy the.,
votes if they were created, or to take away all the means
of creating them. he (Mr. Rice) should most heartily sup-

port the proposition. e ab3lition of 40s :freeholders

:n counties had been the c,}ndition of granting Cathol c
Emancipation, and it ought not to be forgotten, that if
this measure were extended to towns, it would abolish

1,000 electors in Cork, and more than 900 in Galway.
The whole principle of the Bill before the House was to
save t-isting rights, whereas the amendment had for its
object to destroy them. He congr.aulated the Right
Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Dawson) on the strong and sudden
horror he f It at the existence of nomination boroughs.
Mr. D. BROWNE agreed entirely with what had bet n
said reg irding the =tote of voting in the town of Galway,
where it seemed likely that the independent electors would
be swamped by a mete rabble. He contended, that when
the Bill abolished the rights of non-resident freemen, it
ought also to abolish the rights of those fictitious voters
who had been created to counterbalance them.

Mr. DAWSON expressed his readiness to withdraw the
amendment, it •ome rnor'e could be pointed out of guard-
ing against fictitious votes.
Mr. O'CONNELL agreed that in the county of the
town of Galway the grossest electioneering frauds had been
committed, argued and that the Joint-tenancy Bill, now
only applicable to counties, should be extended to towns,
for the purpose of getting rid of fictitious votes. No man
was more oppnse.l to fictitious votes than himself ; hot he
must say that justice bad not been done to the genuine 40s.
freeholders of Galway, who had with scorn rejected bribes
at a time when it was most important to have accepted
them.

Mr. STANLEY said that it was of importance to
make a broad dis-inction between the bona file and the
fictitious voter; but he was well aware of the difficulty of
accomplishing such p desirble end. It had seemed to him
and others infinitely preferable that even fictitious voters
should be continued, than that, by an endeavour to abo-
lish them, the just rights of bona fide proprietots should
be endangered.
Sir J. BURKE remarked, that what had been said
would put the Judges on their guard against the registra-
tion of any hut bona fide freeholders.

Mr. LEFROY supported the amendment.
Mr. BLAKNEY and Mr. BODKIN were understood
to oppose the. motion of the Hon. Member for Harwich.

Alt. I)AWSON said that decided proofs had been given
of the fictitiousness of the votes, which it was the oliect
of his amendment to remove : and surely the Right Hon.
Gentleman the Secretary for Ireland, would not 2iifiFt to
an opportunity being given for ascertaining whet they
were real or not.

Mr. STANLEY considered the terms in which the
clause was expressed quite sufficient to prevent any bhuse.
Mr. DAWSON then withdrew his amendment, and
the clause was agreed to.

The House resumed, the Chairman reported progress,
and obtained leave to sit again on Monday next.
Lord ALTHORP then adverted to the circumstance,
that he had given notice, that in a Committee of Supply,
he should submit a resolution respecting the losses lately
sustained by the West India proprietors. It was rather
irregular that he should have given that notice with re.
ference to a Committee of Supply. He should have given
the notice to move the resolution in a Committee of the
whole House ; but as the difference was merely formal, he
trusted that no objection would now be made to proceed
ing with his proposition. The object of the resolution
was to afford relief to those who had suffered from the
insurrection and the hurricanes in Jamaica, Barbados, St.
Vincent, and St. Lucie.

The question was then put, that the House do resolve
itself into a Committee of the whole House.
Mr. HERRIES wished to know from the Noble Lord
opposite what course Government intended to pursue with
respect to the Russian Dutch Loan ?

Lord ALT HORP was not prepared to give an answer
to the question; but of this the Right Hon. Gentleman
and the House might rest assured, that nothing would be
done on the subject without due notice.
The House then resolved itself into a Committee.

Lord ALTHORP said, that to that part of the resolu-
tion he intended to propose, which related to the compen-
cation, or rather relief to these West India proprietors
who had suffered from hurricanes, he did not anticipate
any opposition, though he feared there might be some as
respected the grant intended to be made to those who suf-
fered from the insurrection. In Jamaica the evil did not
arise, certainly, from the dispensations of Providence, but
from the acts and wickedness of man. Both were fully
entitled to relief in his judgment, though possibly there
might be some who entertained a different opinion. In
1795, he could find a most satisfactory precedent in the
relief given to the proprietors of estates in Grenada On
that occasion the Government of that day came forward,
and did certainly that which justice and expediency de-
manded. He intended, besides proposing relief to those
who suffered through the dispensations of Providence, also
to propose it for those who had suffered from what might
have arisen from their own indiscreion or imprudence, or
not, as the case might be viewed ; but which most as-
suredly did not arise from any wilful misconduct or fault
of theirs. The assistance which he intended to move,
was not to be given otherwise than in the way of loan;
and for that purpose he should propose an issue of
Exchequer bills to the required amount, such loans
as might be granted under his resoultion, to be se-
cured upon the property of the borrowers. He should
not then trouble the House with entering into de-
tails, he should follow the precedent formerly
set—namely, by -recommending the appointment of
Commissioners, who would look to the security, and judge
of the several amounts which ought to be advanced to in-
dividuals, and the various claims which might to be urged.
He believed the public had newer suffered on similar occa-
sions, and he felt the most perfect confidence that there
would not be on the present any disadvantage to the State.
He intended to move that there be issued Exchequer bills
to the amount of 1,000,0001.; that sum to be divided
between Jamaica and the other islands. As to Jamaica,
he did not intend that loan should be granted to any unless
those who might have suffered from loss of buildings_one
half of the sum of 1,000,0001. to be given to Jamaica,
and the other bait to the other islands. He concluded by
moving an issue of Exchequer bills to the amount of
1,000.000/., to be granted in loans, for the relief of per-
sons connected with our West India colonies, who had
suffered from the late insurrection in Jamaica, and from
the hurricanes in the other islands; such relief to be
.;ranted upon such security, and under such restrictions as
might hereafter be determined.

Mr. BARING made a few observations, the exact pur-
port of which could not be heard in the gallery.
Mr. HUME observed, that the, proposition was so
novel, that he felt no small difficulty with respect to it;
the repayment of the loan was, he thought, somewhat
problematical, to say the least; and he saw no reason
whatever why the Government should not take some se-
condary security.
Mr. Alderman THOMPSON looked with pleasure at
the intention of the Government to do something to re-
lieve the planters in their present state of distress. It was
important to know if the Government proposed that their
advancer, as mortgagees, should be preferred to all others ?
Lord ALTHORP, in reply to the question of the
worthy Alderman, said, that the Government certainly
intended their advances to be repaid in preference to all
others ; and be apprehended, indeed, that none would
apply for any portion of the loan who had not obtained the
consent of the other mortgagees to postpone their claims.
Mr. HUNT said the people of Bristol had as good a
claim to have their losses made good as the West Indians
had , and he thought they could offer much better security.
Mr. WARBURTON did not object to the motion, but
he reserved his observations on the policy of the grant until
the Bill was before the House.

Lord SANDON could not allow the grant to pass
without expressing his gratitude to the Government for
the boon they had conferred on the West Indies. The in-
terests of the colonies were the interests of the mother
country, and -the people of Liverpool were as much bene-
fited by the prosperity of the West Indies, as the West
Indians themselves.—(Hear.)
Mr. I3URGE also felt gratitude to the Government for
this advance to the colonies in the hour of ueces•ity.
With regard to the doubts expressed by an Hon. Nlember,
of the power of Jamaica to return the 500,0001. which
was to be its portion of the loan, he would only refer to
the account of the imports from that island, which showed
that more than a fifth of the sugar, and more than a half
of the rum brought into this country were the produce of
that island, while out of forty-three millio❑ pounds of
ceffee received from all the world, Jamaica produced
16,000,000. Of the whole of the exports to the colonies,
amounting to 5,000,000 and odd, 2,908,533 pounds
official value went to Jamaica; and, therefore, some idea
might be formed of its import ince to the mother country.
He feared, however, that the grant would afford only par-
tial relief; although he was grateful for even that, in the
present condition of the planters.

Dr. LUSHINGION could not consent to vote so
large a sum of money, without some evidence being laid
on the table with respect to the necessity of the case, and
the merit! of the claimants. Supposing a new rebellion
broke out, and that it was attended with similar results,
were the Government prepared to move for a new grant
for losses sustained through the obstinacy of the West
Indians, in placing themselves in opposition to the wishes
of the Legislature. He did not mean to divide the Com-
mittee on the motion, but he gave the money with reltic.
tance, and entered his protest against the vote.
Colonel DAVIES feared that the grant would be no
relief, and that the Government would have no security

fo- their advances. He prayed them, therefore, to con-
r well, before they adopted the (Nouse they had in vi-w
Mr. GODSON thought tint the money they wen
,pout to give to J imaica was only a part of what had
peen unjustly taken from her. This country had taker.
from Jamaica 5,000,0001., and now grudged he.
500,000/. to swe the planter and his slaves from starving.

Mr. FOWELL BUXTON expressed his concurrence
in what had been said by the Hon. Member for Bridport
is not pledging himself to any opinion as to the insurrec-
tion, by voting for the grant. He should not lel himself
precluded by his vote this night from inquiring into that
insurrection.

Sir JAMES SCARLETT agreed in the vote as well
r.dculated to coned,ate the Colonies, and well calculated to
remove any opinion that the Government was hostile to
them.

Mr. BURGE deprecated the language which had been
used by the Hon. Member for Ilchester ; but th it lan-
guage should not induce him to enter into subject, or say
any thing unworthy of that feeling he was bound to en-
<ertain towards the Gorernment for this grant.
Mr. FOWELL BUXTON inquired if the relief now
afforded was to be extended to all the property destroyed.
He understood no damages was greater than that done to
missions by the Whites.
Lord ALTHDRP conceived that the outrages com-
mitted on the missions were very gross. The Government
had sent out pressing demands that justice should be done,
and reparation made. He had no doubt that the Legi.ela-
ture of Jamaica would do justice ; but if it did not, the
Government here would be bon, dto do so. _ _

Resolution agreed to, and ordered to be reported. The
Riuse resua.ed, and the Report ordered to be received on
Monday.

SUPPLY.

Si*i. GRAHAM moved that the House should resolve
into a Committee of Supply.

ASSESSED TAXES.

Lord ALTHORP, in reply to Mr. Pigott, stated that it
was not his intention to renew the Act for making a
composition for A.sessrd Taxes at this late period of the
Session.

House went into a Committee.
A sum not exceeding 52,0001. was granted for new
works at Cremill.

A sum, not exceeding 60,0001. for defraying the charge
of new works in the Victualling Department, was grant-
er! ; as was a sum of 42,0001. for the expenses of the Ad-
miralty Office; 45,630/ or the salaries of Officers of the
Navy Office, and for the contingent expenses of that office,
was moved.

Mr. FIUME took the opportunity of adverting to the
appointment of Captain Symonds to the office of Surveyor
of the Navy, over the heads of pupils of the Naval Archi-
tectural School. He contended these gentlemen dad been
very ill treated. They had been invited into the set-vice,
and promised that they should fill the highest stations, if
they were capable of filling them. Their education had
been most expensive ; and of what use was that, if they
were now thrown aside? These young men had been,
if he were rightly informed, most unjustly treated.
Sir J. GRAHAM said that his meaning, on a former
occasion, had b••en misunderstood : the gentirmen who
had been educated at the school had been placed in such
situations as were vacant ; but, in his humble judgment,
there was not one of those gentlemen sufficiently qualifi d
to occupy the station of Surveyor of the Navy.
Sir B. MARTIN said, that in his opinion Captain
Symonds himself was not fit for the situation.

Sir J. GRAHAM, in appointing Captain Symonds,
had acted in strict accordance with the best naval advice.

Sir G. COCKBURN objected to Sir R. Sepping having
been displaced for the purpose of making room for Cap-
tain Symon ifs.

Sir G. WARRENDER coincided in praising the valu-
ahle services of Sir R. Sepping; and it was also a matter
of regret to him to hear that none of those gentlemen who
had been educated at the Naval School were competent to
fulfil the ditties of Captain Symonds's office.
Lord INGESTRIE complained of the Right Hon. Ba-
ronet having thrown a slur on a body of men, who, to
his knowledge, were every one of them competent to fill
any of the civil offices connected with the dock-yards.
After a few words from Mr. HUNT, Mr. WattßuuToN,
and Mr. M. O'CONNELL:the vote was agreed to.

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The House resumed. Report to be received on Monday
next.

The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and
at Half-past Two o'Clock this morning, the House ad-
journed to Monday.

LIST OF TIL
OF TWENTY-ONE WHO V.
BILITY OF ELECTORS TC
CESSES, AND TAXES, B]
TER OR VOTE."

E MINORITY
ITED " AGAINST THE LTA-
) PAY MUNICIPAL. RATES,
AFORE THEY CAN REGIS-

Blackney, W.—C, of Carlow
Browne, D.—Co. of Mayo

O'Connell, D.—Co. of Kerry
O'Connor Don—Roscom Co.
O'Farrell, IL M.—Co. of Kildare
Parnell, Sir H. B.—Queen's Co.
Ruthven, E. S.—Downpatrick
Tomes, J.—Warwick
Walker, C. A.—Wexford
Wallace, T.—Drogheda
Warburton, H.—Bridport

Chapmn, M.—Westmeath Co.
Godson, Richard—St. Albans
Grattan, H.—Meath Co.
Grattan, J.—Co. of Wicklow
Hume, Joseph—Middlesex
Hunt, Henry—Preston
Hort, Sir J. W.—Co. of Kildare
Jephson,y. D. o,7Mallow

Ljader, 'N. P.—Kilhenny Co.
Mullins, F. W.—Co. of Kerry