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London, England, 1832-08-02 00:00:00

The House then divided, and the numbers were—

For the Amendment 7
Against it 3O
Majority :23
The House then resolved itself into a Committee on the
Bill, and after some discussion the House resumed, and the
Chairman reported progress, and obtained leave to sit
again on Friday.
BRIBERY AT ELECTIONS BILL.

The House resolved itself into a Committee, pro forma,
on the above Bill, and certain amendments were made, on
the motion of Lord J. RUSSELL.

The House resumed, the report was received, and
ordered to be taken into further consideration on Friday.
The other Orders of the Day were disposed of, and
the House adjourned at Three o'clock.

LIST OF MEMBERS WHO VOTED IN THE MINORITY
IN THE TITHE BILL COMMITTEE.
Burke, Sir J. Ruthven, K S. Walker, C. A.
French, A. Sheil, R. L. Wyse, T.
Leader, N. P. White, TELLER.
M‘Namara, W. N. , Wallace, T. Hunt, H.

IRISH MEMBEJ
Callaghan, D.
Duneannon, Vise.
Jephson, C. D. 0.

; WHO VOTED W
Jones, T.
Lefroy,
Ponsonby,

ITH MINISTERS.
'Rice, T. S.
Shaw, F.

DUBLIN, JULY 30.

TITHES.

" A religious establishment is no part of Christianity; it is
only the means of inculcating it.
" It cannot be proved that any form of Church government
was laid down in the Christian as it had been in the Jewish
Scriptures, with a view of fixing a constitution for succeeding

ages."—PALEY.
Supposing the Protestant Church to be the only Esta-
blished Church in Ireland since the Reformation, it must
have been so, according to the first of these propositions,
only for the purpose of " inculcating" the reformed reli-
gion. But as its government was not rendered unchris-
tian or Jewish, for the purpose of making it what our laws
do not rec' gnizP, a perpetuity, it has, according to the
second of Dr. Paley's propositions above quoted, failed to be
binding on " succeeding ages." The events of the last half

year in this country prove the truth of the philosopher's
doctrine to a demonstration. Within the short period of
six months, a series of facts, as notorious as they are de-
plorable, bats confirmed what the Protestant Archdeacon
of Carlisle admitted nearly half a century ago ; and
which the Catholic Bishop of Leighlin and Ferns has been
inculcating with more effect very recently. Tithes are
morally, I might almost say actually, extinguished in
Ireland, in despite of the many obsolete, and the
three embryo Stanley laws in support of them. For
proof of this I need not rely alone on the " s;gns of the
times," and the numerous testimonies of the state of the
country to be met with in every newspaper ; the result of
the Carrickshock trials, and the thanks of 20,000 people
in the county Limerick to Dr. Doyle for his exertions in
the cause, are evidences unquestionable of what I have ven-
tured to assert. These two circumstances,wh en duly reflected
on, should convince the most obstinate friend to the tempora-
lities of the Church, of the danger of enforcing, and the in-
utility of continuing, laws which are oppressive to the people,
who derive no advantage whatever from them. The Kil-
kenny trials have shown that the law of opinion, acting
on the feelings and consciences of jurie., is too powerful
for the laws of the Legislature; and that however melan-
choly the reflection may be to the friends of peace and
good order, the latter must succumb to the former, unless
Government are prepared to reduce this " country to a
wilderness." These were the expressions of Dr. Doyle
before the Tithe Committee, warning them against the
continuance of a system founded on injustice; and I told
you in a former letter, that the sentiments cf that distin-
guished personage on tithes, and the ether grievances of
Ireland, are diffused throughout the land, and, as it were,
wrought into the very hearts of his countrymen. At the
meeting already alluded at Fedamore, in the county of
Limerick., 7th of this month, thanks were voted to him
for his letter to Mr. Stanley on tithes ; and the Chairman,
it would appear from his letter in the public papers, on
forwarding them, adds his own gratitude for " his un-
numbered services in the cause of a suffering people."
Here we have proof of the law of opinion, and the effects
those meetings which have made and sustained that law
hitherto ; while the following extract from the Doctor's
reply to that letter, shows how futile the effort will be to put
down public opinion and opposition to tithes in Ireland.
" The advocacy of truth will always excite hostility.
and he who enforces justice will ever have to combat
against the powers of this world. I have, through life,
regardless of danger or injury, sought to maintain the
course of truth and justice against those "who seek after
a lie" and " oppress the weak." We who are now em-
barked in this cause have to renew our determination,
and in proportion as power is exerted against us, to oppose
ourselves against it as a wall of brass. Let us receive, but
not return its shocks,—for if we abide by the law, and
pursue after truth and justice, we may suffer loss for
a moment, but as certainly as Providence presides
over human affairs, Every arm that will be lifted
against us will not prosper, and against every tongue that
contendeth against us we will obtain our cause.

Indigence,- pestilence, and consequent immorality are
making eiant strides through this land ; but till the ini-
quitous tithe system, and other evils of misgovernment, are
abolished, virtue and intelligence cannot exert their influ-
ence to arrest their progress. Good men cannot combine
against the lawless and unnatural part of the c immunity,
as long as the government presiding over us suffers the
latter Justly to complain against the laws.