The Sun.
London, England, 1832-01-17 00:00:00

CHAMBER OF DEPUTIES, .14N. 12.

The discussion of the Bill fur regulating the Civil Lint
Val resumed.

Article 17, declaring that the annual sum granted to
the King shall be payable monthly, in advance; and Ar-
t de 18, enacting that in the event of the King's death, a
slower shall be granted the Queen, the amount of which
shall be fixed by a law, and that the Elysee Bourbon,
With its furniture, shall be assigned for her residence, were
successively adopted without discussion. The 19th Article,
granting one million of francs annually to the Prince
Royal until his marriage, and two millions afterwards;
and the 20th, declaring the dotations of the younger sons
and the daughters of the King shall be regulated hereafter
by special laws, were taken into consideration together,
and gave rise to some discussion,
M. de Ludre had proposed as an amendment to the
same articles to grant the Prince Royal 500,000 f. per an-
num until marriage, and one million afterwards, but now
lie said that when he made the proposition he expected
the Civil List to be fixed at a much less sum than
14,000,000. At present he thought that the sum pro-
Posed was not much in proportion to the main grant, and
therefore. withdrew his amendment.—(Applause.)
M. Dubois (of Nantes) reproduced the amendment of
de Ludre.
The amendment was then put to the vote; the first
ePreuve appearing doubtful, a ballot was demanded, when
the amendment of M. Dubois was rejected, and that of
the Committee adopted, by a majority of 174 against 168.

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Article 20 was then adopted, with the addition of the
Words " in the event of their private fortunes being suffi-
cient," which was consented to by the Committee.
Articles 21, 22, and 23, as proposed by the Committee,
declared that all property possessed by a King on coming
to the Throne should devolve to the State, but that an ex-
ception should be made in favour of the property possessed
by the present King on his accession, which should be al.
lowed to constitute his private estate, this exception not in
any manner to affect the general principle.
M. Eusebe Salverte proposed to substitute for the three
Articles a single provision, declaring that all the property
Which a King might possess on coming to the throne, or
Might personally acquire during his reign, should be and
remain his private domain and estate. In support of this
amendment the Honourable Deputy argued that the prin-
ciple of the King's private property devolving to the State
Was founded on the feudal system, and was both unjust and
inconsistent with the present state and feelings of society.
General Bertrand opposed the amendment, and cited the
example of Hugh Capet, who, on his accession, gave all his
private property to the State, and concluded by demanding
the maintenance of the Articles of the Committee, and the
full liberty of the Press.—(A general laugh.)
M. Dupin, sine, entered into a detailed historical ac-
count of the private estates of the French Kings, and
'hewed that M. Salverte was perfectly right in considering
the principle in question as a feudal principle. He also
argued that the principle was rather injurious than benefi-
cial to the State, since the fear of private property de-
volving to the nation would induce heirs to the Throne
(as in the case of the late Dauphin) to invest their funds
in foreign countries, whereas, if the opposite principle were
adopted they would have no inducement to do so, hut
would, as has always been the case with the present King,
invest all their funds on the soil of France. He therefore
tOPported the amendment of M. Salverte, but wished it
to be well understood that if it were adopted the State
should never be in any case called on or expected to con-
tribute to the payment of the debts of a deceased King.
M. l.lauguin opposed the amendment. Considerable
laughter was excited in the course of the Hon. Deputy's
address by his again inadvertently making use of the ex-
pression, " King of France."
The Keeper of the Seals said that Government ap-
proved of the amendment of M. Salverte, which was then
adopted by a very great majority, and forms Article 21.
Article 24 of the Committee, now Article 22, was
adopted in the following terms The King may dies•
Pose of his private estate either by gift or will, without
being subjected to the rules of the Civil Code."
Article 23 consists of an additional provision proposed
byM. Salverte, declaring that the rights of creditors, and
of the officers of the Royal Household who are entitled to
retiring pensions, from length of service, or on account of
drawbacks made in their salaries, shall in every case be
reserved and available against the property of a deceased
King.

Article 24 enacts that in every other respect the private
estate of the King shall he subject to all the laws which
regulate other properties.
Both these articles were adopted without any discussion
of interest, as were also articles 25 to 28 inclusive.
Article 25 declares that there shall henceforward be no
extraordinary domain, and that consequently all property
acquired by war or treaties shall belong to the State, un-
less any part of it shall be granted to the King by a law.
Articles 26 and 27 relate merely to administrative details.
Article 28 declares that the monies of the Civil List are
not liable to legal seizure.
M. Levrault proposed, as an additional Article, that on
the death of the King the Civil List should continue until
altered by a decision of the Chsmber.
M. Laurence opposed the enactment, as contrary to the
Charter, and it was rejected by the Chamber.
The next article was thus worded :—" The present law
shall be carried into execution from the Ist of January,
1832. Nevertheless the revenues of the properties com-
posing the former dotation and appanage of Orleans, re-
ceived or to be received up to the lit of J:inuary, 1832,
and the sum of 1,500,000 f. per month received from the
Treasury, are definitively granted to the Civil List."
M. Cabet proposed the following amendment ;—" The
present law shall be carried into execution from the 7th of
tiugutt, 1830. The overplus of the sums received shall
return into the Treasury of the State."
.After some observations from M. Salverte in support of
till' amendment, and from M. Dupine, aine, ag iinst it, it
Was rejected. The President was then about to put the
article to the vote, when M. Laurence declared that the
provision was contrary to the Charter, and moved the
previous question, which after two doubtful t.'preuves was
tarried in a ballot by a majority of 152 against 142. The
article was therefore lost.

As it is well known that woodcocks are a
very shy bird, and rarely found in pairs, it may be worth
RID that JONATHAN LEIGHTON, gamekeeper to R.
nELL, Esq., on the 2d of December, killed a brace
ot 4 hot with a single-barrel gun, at Felton Park ; and
qa the 3d inst. he killed another brace at a shot, on the
ground.—Newcastle Chronicle.
REDUCTIONS IN THE IRISH VICE REGAL
°usEttoLn.—ln accordance with the various recom-
4'eudations of the Finance Committee of 1830, Govern-
hi' are beginning to reduce the expences of public esta-
shtuents. They have commenced with the Vice Regal
'useltold. The salaries of the Hon. Colonel GORE, Master
of the Horse, Sir STEWART BRUCE, Gentleman Usher, and
• fe,,4Ptlin L'ESTRANGE, Chamberlain, have been reduced
G„a.,°4l 500/ to 2001. per annum ; Dr. CHEYNE, Physician
Lt
General, D,
nr. JACKSON, State-Physician, and Dr. MACK-
-4rl 4tate-Surcrbeon are reduced from 3651. to 100/. per
The Lot:.D LIEUTENANT'S Aide.tle-Camps are
°be forthwith reduced to four, and only one Gentleman
tt large and two Gentlemen of the Bedchamber will in
future grace the Board of Green Cloth ; other extensive
reductions will take place.