The Sun.
London, England, 1866-12-04 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, DECEMBER 4 1866

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men evidently felt that it was accepted by the down. RD mischievous a propensity as their Fenianism
public generally as a working-man's demonstration, has proved to be.
and as such it was looked upon with interest and
respect ; they were therefore determined that it
should be worthy of them, and every one accepted
his share of the responsibility of preserving order
with readiness and played his part with credit.
The police were of very great service in assisting to
manage the traffic, &c., and on one occasion were
especially useful in detecting and expelling sundry
pickpockets, who, after long watching, succeeded in
getting into the crowd. The appearance of the men
was very respectable, and included representatives
of trades of all kinds, carrying flags and banners
adorned with the mottoes of their unions, or some-
times with fragments of wit or political en-
thusiasm framed for the occasion. Such
was the candlemakers' device, " Bright and Light,"
and the carpenters' motto, " Justice. to Joiners."
Poetry, too, was not wanting, and the
somewhat tedious interval of preliminary waiting in
the Mall was enlivened by bands of singers chant-
ing an ode to Reform, which reached its grand
climax in the last verse—
" Then shout with all your might,
God save Gladstone, Beales, and Bright.
Wave your banners, let your ranks closer form,
And let your watchword be,
Old England, Liberty,
Manhood Suffrage, Vote by Ballot, and Reform."
Of the eloquence of the day there is not very
much to be said ; and, indeed, as every one
knows, such monster assemblies are chiefly for the
purpose of demonstration, since argument and
explanation cannot be heard by a hundredth part
of them. We think it a pity, however, that Mr.
BEALES should have dwelt so much on the Hyde-
park affair, more especially as all rational working
men know that the park is free to any individuals, and
that if any grounds are once accepted as a recog-
nised place of political meeting, there is an end ol
all general enjoyment, of trees, and flowers.

Tie N. orth German Union is now the topic that
engigea general attention in Prussia, and it seems
that we are shortly to hear of something definite
being -done in this much-talked-of affair. A Minis-
terial. conference is to be held at Berlin on the 15th
inst., at which the scheme of a Federal Constitution
will be definitively settled in the form of a treaty.
It -would certainly seem as if Prussian greed would
never be satisfied, and hence we hear that, in the
sitting of Monday of the Chamber of Deputies, Herr
BEILKER and some other members brought in a bill,
which was to the effect that the Government should
submit a bill to the Chambers for the purpose
of incorporating, without delay, the Duchy of
Lauenberg, or else to add paragraphs to that effect
to the bill for the incorporation of the Duchies of
Schleswig-Holstein. This seems a very unnecessary
proposition. Certainly it is a matter of small
moment whether Lauenberg is incorporated or not,
but the principle is a bad one ; and it shows us,
moreover, that the Prussian Government, and peo-
ple, too, we may add, cannot resist the temptation
of taking possession of all that they can possibly
grasp at by fair means or foul. Such a course is a
very mischievous one to pursue, and we warn
them now, as we have often done before, that no
good can come of it, and more than that, that harm
will eventually ensue.
The Prussian Government has agreed to com-
municate to the Committee on the Dotation Fund
the names of those for whom it is intended. This
is another proof that the Ministers are not so strong
or so popular as they would have had them believe
a short time back ; they had to give in on more than
one occasion of late, for the D eputies seem pretty well
determined not to be caught again as they have so
often been before. No doubt expectation is rife as
to the course which will be taken when the celebrated
day arrives which will witness the new Parliament
of North Germany ; but we cannot see much hope
of its effecting any thing very great while Count
BISMARCK is allowed to take the lead of affairs.

The argument which the working men of yes-
terday used was, however, far stronger and more
convincing than Mr. BRIGHT'S oratory or Mr.
BEALES' remonstrances. They proved unmis-
takeably that they were fit for the franchise, and
that if they got it they knew how to discharge their
social responsibilities. It has been said in some
quarters that the demonstration fell short of the
expectations because its numbers were less than
was anticipated. But the object desired was fully
attained. It was not intended to overawe the upper
classes by mere numbers, or, if so, the roughs and
idlers might have been invited to form
part of the meeting. It was intended
to show the strong feeling which exists on
the part of the working men of the metropolis in
favour of Reform, and this it fully accomplished.
Men mustered from all parts—from the north of
London, from the south, from the far east. There
were engineers and silk weavers, there were ship-
wrights and shoemakers, there were bricklayers and
tailors, farriers and bookbinders, watermen and
organ builders. Men of such various employments
and associations could only have been brought
together by a strong common feeling, and
when men whose intelligence, good conduct,
and respect for law and order are undoubted,
show such a feeling in such large numbers, it may
well be asked why any Constitutional Government
should refuse to grant their wishes. But to meet
the wants of the men who marshalled yesterday even
household suffrage would be inadequate, and man-
hood suffrage would not only be intolerable to the
great body of this country, but has actually failed to
give satisfaction in the countries that have tried it.
What the working men of London and other large
cities want is the lodger franchise, and this
they must have if they are to be represented at all,
for even ten pounds is a nominal rent in our crowded
towns. It is in lodgings that the bulk of our work-
ing men live, and there is little chance of their
doing otherwise, since rents increase with popula-
tion and employment. A lodger franchise, under
certain couditionq, would be safe and constitutional,
and any Reform Bill would be unsatisfactory
with out it.

CORRESPONDENCE FROM PARIS.

(FROM OUR OWN CORRESPONDENT.)
PARIS, Monday Evening.

The Journal des Debuts says it received a despatch
last night announcing the return of M. de Bismark
to Berlin.

The Debats also gives news confirmatory of the
general impression which I told you prevailed in
Paris that the Emperor Maximilian had not left
Mexico. It says—" A despatch from New York,
dated Nov. 30, announces that, according to the
latest information, the Emperor had not left Mexico.
There is probably an error of translation in regard
to the word Mexico,' which is the English word
for le Mexique. Thus rectified, the accounts brought
to Southampton by La Seine, which is in fact the
latest that we could have received respecting Maxi-
milian and his Empire, and the despatch confirms
that news. The same despatch contradicts the re-
port of the occupation of Matamoras by the troops
of the United States."

The Moniteur, in noticing the news brought by
the Seine, says that on the Ist of November the
Emperor Maximilian, whose health bad suffered
from intermittent fever, had made a journey to
Orizaba, where he had arrived on the 27th October.
At the departure of the mail it was not known how
long his Majesty intended to remain in that town
Thus the reports about his abdication which have
agitated Paris fur some time past seem to be finally
disposed of, and the news fabricators must seek
for some other canard.

A letter from Lisbon, dated Nov. 26, says :
" There i 3 a report which everybody wishes to see
realised, that his Catholic Majesty (the King of
Spain) will shortly honour our capital with his pre-
sence. Nothing could so effectually draw closer the
ties of friendship which united the two kingdoms.
Two important rivers, the Tagus and the Douro,
are common to both countries. The railway will
connect them more intimately, and by its aid Lisbon
will only be separated from Paris by a journey of
72 hours when the express trains shall be regularly
organised.

Altogether the affair of yesterday must be ac-
cepted as a success, and a success in the best sense,
since it showed that the working men of London are
fully capable of being "a law unto themselves," and
all the unwise and ill-directed agitation we have
had of late has failed to make them forget their
own self-respect or lose their proverbial good
temper.

On learning the death of Count Sevriner, Minis-
ter Plenipotentiary, the Emperor instantly wrote a
letter to Count Sevriner, his brother, in which he
stated that the deceased had always been very
devoted to him, and that his loss had caused him
very profound sorrow.

The Siecle, although a thorough Opposition paper,
often obtains information of the views and feelings
current in official quarters. To-day it has the fol-
lowing sentence, which is worthy of deep considera-
tion :—" An opinion has for some time gained credit
that the results of the late Europeon conflict cannot
be definitive, that France cannot accept without
reserve the aggrandisement of Prussia, and that a
fresh struggle, in which our country will play that
principal part, is irresistible at a period more or
less distant."

It is satisfactory to and that the energetic efforts
made by the authorities have in a great measure put
a stop to the spread of Fenianism in Ireland, and
w•e may, therefore, entertain the hope that no very
serious outbreak will occur. At any rate a decisive
part has been gained in the capture of Mr.
STEI'IIEN JOSEPH MEANEY, who has made, his

The Opinion Nationale has an article written in a
similar spirit, but it speaks more openly of the dis-
appointment of France at the conduct of Prussia.
The writer asserts that Prussia could not have ob-
tained her astonishing success had it not been for
the "benevolent neutrality" of France, and con-
tends that if war should break out between France
and Prussia, Prussia will have only herself to blame
for it.

appearance in public in the position of prisoner,
and not, as he fondly imagined, as a leader of a
popular movement. Other arrests have also been
made of a less important character, and it is ex-
pected that many more will now take place. It
has been suggested that the Lord Mayor should
call together a meeting of the citizens of Dublin,
in order that there may be an expression of loyalty
given to show the feeling that now exists among
the majority. This might, perhaps, be a good
thing to do, for it could not
possibly do any harm,
and
might be productive of some beneficial effect.
In the county of Cork, yesterday, a
meeting of
thea
magistrates took place under the•Lord-Lieute-
nt, for the purpose of considering the best means
n
protect the district from the Fenian
as 240 gentlemen attended in the
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cotooutraadgoieps!i
as to the aroused state of public feeling on the mat-
ter of these disturbances, threatened and otherwise.
The conclusion which
the deliberations came to
was, that they should memorialise the Government
to increase the strength of the military force of the
country, and to place vessels of war to guard against
the probability of a Fenian descent on their coast,
proves the necessity for immediate measures being
adopted of a practical and decisive character ;
•
and it is worthy of note, in con junction
with this affair, that in the north of Eng-
land there hav3 been symptoms of the Fenian
element appearing. A body of men calling
themselves by that appellation, armed with pikes,
made a disturbance near West Hartlepool, and
although none of the offenders were caught the
police found some of their weapons, which were of
a very formidable nature.
Whether these men were in reality Fenians or
not it shows that one disturbance is a cause for an-
other ; and no doubt it is judged to be a very wise
expedient to take the name of Fenians. It is time
that all this should cease. Perhaps too much lenity
has been shown by the authorities, and their mode-
ration Las not been appreciated. At any
rate the renewed effort to disturb the
peace of her MAJESTY'S subjects cannot be
permitted, and it will be the wisest and kindest
mode of action to pursue to put down the lawless
work at once and speedily. We are glad to find
that among the majority of Irish there is a strong
feeling of disapproval manifested, and we trust that
all who have MN to understand Vie danger and ,

A new theatre upon the point of completion at
Passy, near Paris, to be called the Theatre de Ros-
sini, where operas and comedies are to be played,
will be opened on New Year's-day.
A marriage has been postponed in the commune
of Maubenge, in the north of Prance, in conse-
quence of a very carious circumstance. The bells
of the church were ringing, and the wedding party
proceeded to the Mairie to fulfil the requisite for-
malities. When the baptismal register of the bride
was presented to the proper officer, on referring to
the books he found that when an infant she had
been registered as a " boy." He, therefore,
said that he could not give the usual cer-
tificate authorising the marriage, which was
postponed for a fortnight, in order to make
inquiries. The bride and bridegroom, very much
loth, left the Make " like Niobe, all in tears," but
the officer consoled them by assuring them that if
he found it was " all right," and they continued in
the same mind, the binding knot should then be
tied, and no mistake.

The Chronique des Arts states that France and
the arts have experienced a considerable loss. The
collection of cameos, medals, bronzes, and antique
vases belonging to the Duke de Blacas, has been
bought by England. While the French Administra-
tion were endeavouring, by means of a commission,
to ascertain the value of the collection, Mr. Newton,
with duly authorised powers, bought it for the
British Museum for 1,200,000 f.

A former Chamberlain of the Empress Josephine,
M. de Lastie, died a few days ago at Parentignat
(Pay do Dome), in his 99th year.
The Constitutionnel considers that there is great
danger for England in the manifestations of the
Fenians. It says :
. .

" The English press at first, according to its
custom, treated the speeches of the Fenians as mere
bombast and vain menace. Nov, however, they
appear to be uneasy and alarmed, and express their
astonishment that after the severely repressive
measures with regard to the Fenians in Ireland,
they should be strong enough to compel the English
Government to make a display of troops and resort
to measures of rigour.
" We are far from sharing the confidence, bold
at least, of the Fenians, or rather their chiefs, in
the success of their enterprise. At the same time
it is impossible not to see the proof that these
Fenians do not appear to the Government 00

offensive as the London press has for a long time
endeavoured to make us believe."

The weather to-day has been again mild and
agreeable. The official meteorological reports state
that the cold has been excessive in Russia, and that
a day or two ago there was abundance of snow in
some parts of France.
In reference to the arguments in support of the
destruction of the temporal power of the Pope, the
Gazette de France says :—" History will judge this
culpable demonstration. It is only for us to prove
the weakness of the arguments employed to justify
the fall of the Holy Father, and to show that the
enemies of his temporal power have not a single
good reason to invoke in support of their wishes.
They can only ask for the death of Catholic Rome
without one word or sentence. All the justifi-
cations they attempt are false in logic and wound
the sense of right."

LATEST INTELLIGENCE.

Sir Bartle Frere held a Grand Durbar on the 29th
of October at Poonah. It was attended by the
Princes and Sirdars of the Deccan and South Mah-
ratta country. The next day the Sirdars presented
his Excellency with a life-size portrait of himself,
to be placed in the Council-hall of Poonah.

(REUTER'S TELEGRAMS.)

Her Majesty's ship Bernice has been destroyed by
fire in the Persian Gulf. The crew were saved.

AMERICA.
THE PRESIDENT'S MESSAGE.
(By Atlantic Telegraph).
NEW YORK, DEC. 3.
Congress was opened to-day.
President Johnson, in his Message, adheres to
his former policy, and urges congress to adopt it.
The Treasury receipts for the year ending June
$158,000,000.
the Message says
will
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have
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and
rights. France
had intimated to the United States Government her
intention to postpone the withdrawal of the French
troops from Mexico until the spring. The United
States have remonstrated against this postpone-
ment,,and the President hopes that France will re-
consider the subject, conforming as nearly as prac-
ticable with existing engagements, and thus meet-
ing the just expectations of America.

Progress in the matter ofgthe adjustment of the
Alabama claims is slow, partly owing to the change
of Ministry in England. The President expects,
however, that the claims will now be considered in
a becoming friendly spirit. The importance of an
early settlement of the question cannot be exagge-
rated.

Secretary M'Culloch, in his financial report to
Congress, urges the resumption of specie payments
in 1868.

The Bombay Reclamation Company haveresolved
to wind up voluntarily. The Government have re-
jected propositions for the adjustment of differences
relating to the Government claims.

The Inman steamship City of Baltimore arrived
out yesterday, and the North German Lloyds steam-
ship America to-day.
The National Steam Navigation Company's
steamer Scotland, which left this port on Saturday
for Liverpool, is ashore on the outer middle bar at
Sandy Hook. She came into collision with and
sank the ship Kate Dyer, and was put aground to
prevent her from sinking. At 10 o'clock last night
she was full of water, and will probably prove a
total loss. The cargo may be saved in a damaged
state.

Sir Joseph Arnold, in an elaborate judgment, has
decided in favour of Aga Khan as the head of the
Kojah community.

Preinchum Roychum has been permitted, on an
application from his trustees to the High Court,
to resume business as a merchant and broker.
Business has been resumed after the Dewallee
holidays, but the markets are quiet, and there is
but little doing. The weather is cool, and public
health satisfactory.

MEXICO.

PARIS, Dec. 3, Morning.

(BY DIRECT OVERLAND TELEGRAPH.)
BOMBAY, Nov. 20, 5.45 p.m.

The latest despatches received here from Mexico
are to the Ist Nov., at which date the Emperor
Maximilian was at Orizaba. He had taken up his
residence in that town for the benefit of his health,
which had been affected by an intermittent fever.
His Majesty had been at Orizaba since the 27th
October, and on the departure of the mail it was
not known how long he would remain there.
Marshal Bazaine returned to the city of Mexico
on the 10th October, after a hasty visit to the State
of Puebla.

On the 13th of October Gen. Clinchant, who
accompanies the Marshal, was despatched in the
direction of Huesteca. On arriving at Tulacingo
he placed himself in communication with the
Austrian Col. Polhac, commander of the district.
Gen. Clinchant, having teken up a position at Veuta
de Mazzanos, in order to cover Tulacingo, Lieut.
Colonel Polhac marched upon Huanchinango, where
the Mexican auxiliaries were eager to take reprisals
for years of oppression and brigandage. The Aus-
tro-Mexican colunin encountered the enemy on the
15th October, completely routed them, and entered
Huanchinango. After this engagement General
Clinahant started for Mexico, where he arrived on
the 20th October. Some engagements had taken
place in Michoacan and Jalisco, in which the Im-
perial troops were victorious. The garrisons of
Guaymas and Mazatlan, furnished by the 63d line
regiment, were to leave those towns early in Novem-
ber. They would be conveyed by sea to San Blas,
and would then join General Castagny at Guada-
lajara.
A zai telegraphic
the
despatch received by Marshal
Ban
departure of the mail announced
that, on the 21st October, General Douay, who had
on
left Matehuala, encountered a numerous body of
the enemy's cavalry near Laja de Abajo, whom he
routed and pursued until nightfall into the Sierra,
where they took refuge. General Douay subse-
quently marched upon San Luis Potosi and Quere-
tars, where he had received orders to establish him-
self.

71b-shirtings, 7r.
Cotton declining—Dhollerah, 250 r.
Exchange on London, 2s. Oid.
Freights to Liverpool, 17s. 6d.
CALCUTTA, Nov. 19.
_

Exchange on London, 2s. Old.
Government Securities.—Four per Cents., 864 ;
Five per Cents., 104 ; Five-and-a-Half per Cents.,
109 i.
Freights to England, 375. 6d.
(PRIVATE TELEGRAM.)

The Mexican General Oronos, military com-
mandant of Oajaca, had met with a repulse in en-
deavouring to drive the enemy from before that
place. The Austrian Major Krickl was despatched
with 580 Austrian infantry, 194 hussars, and two
pieces of artillery towards Oajaca, being joined in
the way by Captain Poirel, with 65 Chasseurs, and
100 Mexican infantry and 200 cavalry from Tru-
jeque—about 1,200 men in all. On the 18th Oct.
an Imperial column encountered Perfirio Diaz with
5,000 men, near Essa. After an unequal contest
of one hour and a-half Major Krickl was compelled
to retreat upon Huajuapane with serious loss. Cap-
tain Poirel was killed, and the Austrian cavalry
suffered heavy loss.
The district of Vera Cruz was tranquil.

ITALY.

ROME, Dec. 3 (Evening).

The Osservatore Romano contradicts the assertion
that the Pope had taken the initiative in fresh
negotiations with the Italian Government upon re-
ligious affairs, and adds :
" The Pope will never refuse to listen to any pro-
positions favourable to religion, but after what has
taken place in Italy with reference to the affairs of
the Church His Holiness cannot be first to re-open
negotiations."

BOMBAY (via PERSIAN GULF), Nov. 21.

TIIE HUNGARIAN DIET.

PESTI', Dec. 4.

In yesterday's sitting of tho Lower House of the
Diet, Herr Podmaniczky declared that the Haps-
burg dynasty stands or falls with Hungary.
Herr Ghyczy said that Europe would not tolerate
the conquest of the Danubian Principalities by
Russia.

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