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EARL GREY RESTORED.

Earl GREY—I beg to move, that this House, at its
rising, do adjourn to Thursday next. I make this motion,
in consequence of having received a communication from
his Majesty, which makes me to think it will be conve-
nient that we should adjourn till Thursday next.
The LORD CHANCELLOR then put the question.
that this House do now adjourn.
Lord KENYON—Are we, the House and the country,
to underatand, from the statement of the Noble Earl, that
the Noble Earl and his colleae tree are to continue (Ministers?
Earl GREY—I trust this the Noble Baron and the
House will see the propriety of my not entering into fur-
ther explanation. I have stated that I have had a com-
munication with his Majesty. Of course the House will
understand that in the present state of public affAira, that
communication is consequent upon my resiviation. It is
impossible for me to enter into any explanation, inasmuch
as nothing has resulted from that communication. It is
not, therefore in my power to state what the Noble Earl
seems so anxious to hear, viz., that it is decided that his
Majesty's .Ministe:i'are to continue in office. • I have only
to state that under the peculiar circumstances of the ease,
it does appear to we convenient that this House should
adjourn.
Lord KENYON—After the explanation of the Noble
Earl I think, and I am sure the House must think, that
it would be most unreasonable in me to attempt to draw
anything further from him.
Eal GREY—I beg the Noble Lord will not misunder.
stand me. I only stated that I hail had a communication,
but as yet it has had no consequence.
_ .

The LORD CHANCELLOR—The Noh!e Lord must
admit that it was going rather far to ask, in a manner,
one of the King's Ministers what was the nature of
a communication—a confidential communication—from
his Majesty, to one of his servants, for my Noble
Friend, although he has tendered his resignation,
and though that resignation has been graciously
received by his Majesty, is still, in point of fact, in the
service of his Majesty. But I rise chiefly to prevent the
possibility of any misunderstanding occurring in conse-
'l",oce of what has dropped from the Nobie Baron, who
seemed to think that the second statement of soy Noble
Friend gave information which his first did not. Now I
attended most carefully to my Noble Friend's statement,
and this I will say, that if I hrd had nothing more
than the Noble Baron and the House at large had
gathered from my Noble Friend's first state
ment, I should not have been made to know more
by his second statement. From what my Noble Friend
said the first time was not made a whit more specific by
what he said the second time. All that my Noble Friend
said was, that he had received a communication from his
Majesty (of course every one must know under present cir-
cumstances to what that communication has reference),
hut that it had had no consequence and might have no con-
sequence.

Lard SALISBURY—The Noble and Learned Lord on
the Woolsack is in error, if he supposes that we gained no
information from the Noble Earl's second statement, for
we learnt from it that the communication he had received
from his Majesty has been followed by no consequence.—
(A laugh.)
The House during the whole of the above conversation
was perfectly silent, with the exception of the instant when
Lord Grey first announced the fact of receiving a commu.
nication from his Majesty, when there was some slight
cheering; but their Lordships were evidently prepared for
the announcement.

The Duke of WELL iNaTom was not present
Adjourned at a Quarter to Six.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

The gallery was not opened until twenty minutes pas
four o'clock, in con.equenc,e of Mr. Home's motion for a
call of the House, in order that he might bring forward a
motion relative to the state of the country standing for this
evening ; but at the time it was understood that the call
was postponed until to-morrow. It was confi,tently be-
lieved that the postponement was in conseqnence of the
negotiations now pending for the return of Earl Grey and
his colleagues to office.
•

OUTRAGE ON THE BISHOP OF LITCHFIELD•

THE MINISTRY.,
Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN rose to present a petition
from the parish of St. Bride, in favour of the Reform Bill,
and praying the House not to grant any supplies until that
Bill passed into a law. The Hon. Member in allusion to
the outaage on the Bishop of Lichfield and Coventry, at
St. Bride's Church, last Sunday, stated th it he was
sorry to say a great deal of disorder and confusion
took plrce upon that occasion—(Hear, hear)—and
also that some pains had been taken to misrepresent
the circumstances in order to implicate the friends of Re-
form. He had made every inquiry of the churchwardens
and other respectable inhabitants, and he found that a
number of individuals assemb:ed, and created some disor-
der, but none of the parishioners took any share in it
whatever.—(Hear.) The parishioners, on the contrary,
conducted themselves in the best possible manner. Three
persons had been taken into custody, one of whom—the
ringhader—turned out not only not to be an inhabitant of
the parish, but not even of the city of London.—( Hear.)
Having stoted thus much, he hegged to say, this petition
had been got up in a hurry, but at a very large meeting,
and was signed only by the churchwarden. He knew al-
most all the residents of the parish, a great many of whom
had formerly been against Refoym ; but if he were called
upon now to give his opinion, he knew of no one respec
t ible person in the parish, who was not a strenuous sup-
porter of the Reform Bill.—(Hear.) His colleagues had
many petitions from other parts of the city, and he believed
there was not a ward or parish in the city of Lon-
don in which the same sentiments did not prevail.
It was their conviction that it was impossible to carry a
Bill of Reform which would he satisfactory to the public
if a change in the Administration took place.--( Hear.)
He would forbear from stating any thing of an irritating
nature, but he trusted before the house parted this evening
they would have an assurance that every thing would be
conducted in a manner satisfactory to the country.—
( Hear.) While on his legs he begged to state to the
House that he had another petition to present of greater
importance than the other one, and was from the greatest
commercial body in the kingdom, except that of Landon,
he meant the town of Liverpool, and it ban been put into
his hands by the Hon. Member (Mr. Ewart) for Liver-
poor, whe was afroid he might not have an opportunity of
presenting it to night, and it was of the utmost import-
ance that its presentation should not be delayed. It was
agreed to at one of the largest Meetings ever held in that
town, and it breathed a most determined spirit in favour
of the Bill. He then moved that the petition from St.
Bride's should be brought up and read.
Mr. LITTLETON telt great satisfaction at the vindi-
cation by the worthy Alderman, of hie constituent., in St.
Bride's parish. The proceeding alluded to was one of a
most disgraceful nature, lie (Mr. L.) had had the good
fortune to reside within the diocese of the Bishop of
Litchfield and Coventry, and all persons agreed in repre-
senting that Prelate to be a person of a most pious, bede-
volent, and exempla„ character, andindeed a model of
unaffected piety. There was not an individual in the
House of Lords of his order who was less disposed to lend
himself to political intrigue, or who valued his seat in that
House less than he did fur the political power it conferred
on him.—(Hears
Mr. HUME was anxious to say that while he differed
with the Bishops, and their interference in temporal mat-
ters, he considered the proceeding referred to as improper.
If persons who committed that outrage were reformers, they
disgraced themselves, and sure he was, that if they wished
to see the institutisns of the country renovated, still it
should be done in a constitutional manner, and not by
'violence or force.—(Hear.) He hoped there would be
no more examples of this kind; hut although he was
aware that many did not think as he did, yet he thought
that great allowance ought to be made for popular feeling.
There was, however, in his opinion, so much of intelli-
genee abroad, and so much of influence, that such pro-
ceedings would be altogether prevented.
Su E. SUGDEN was not surprised at what had oc-
curred from the violent speeches made at public meetings.
(Hear.) It was true that the people were told not to re-
sort to violence., but it was in such language that they
were in fact shown how to act violently.—(Hear.)
Mr. D. W. HARVEY said it was very well for lion.
Members to talk about preventing any ebullition of popular
feeling, but it should be recollected that the thing which
should have been considered was to have abstained from such
acts as tended to irritate the people.—(Cheers.) It was
because there was so much just ground for the indignation
that they were occasionally led to trespass over the
threshbold of propriety—(Hear)—and while he roue

demned such proceedings as had taken place at St. Bride'r
Church, still it ought to be considered as some indication
of popalar feeling. If the proposition to increase the
Members of the House of Lords was
_a proposition to be
dreaded, it would be as well to decrease the number. by
the number of the Bishops, as a means of inducing them
to confine themselves to their holy calling.—(Hear.)
Mr. BANKES said the Honourable Member who had
just sat down had grounded the effusion which he had
presented to tie House on a mis-statement of the fact.
He assumed that the congregation had risen against their
pastor, whereas from the statement of the Worthy Alder-
man not one of the parishioners took part in the proceed.
ings. That Worthy Alderman bad taken the pains, mubh
to his credit, of investigating the circumstances of the
case, and he stated as the result of his enquities that the par-
ties who had been apprehended were entire strangers to that
part of the City. Therefore there was no ground work for
the effusion which the Hon. Member (Mr. Harvey) had
so unnecessarily obtruded on the House. There could be
hut one feeling—unless that H .n. Member was an excep-
tion as to the scandalous conduct of the persons who,
he trusted, were sot prishioners or Englishmen (though
sure he was they were not Christian men) who took a
part in that disgraceful proceeding.—(Hear:) As to
whether the Peers ought or ought not to be diminished in
number, he would not follow the Hen. Member ; but he
believed he would find very few to concur in the
opinions which that Honourable Member had broached.
—(Hear.) But if lie wished to justify the act and to
say that a Reverend Prelate, distinguished for his
moral and religious virtues, for giving a conscientious vote,
ought to bd sithjected to outrage, he would .emain single
in his opinion. He would take this opportunity of advert-
ing to what had in the early prrt of the evening been stated
by the lion. Member for Middlesex (Mr. Hume) relative
to the motion for a call of the House. That Hoti. 'Mem
ber had said that he should postpone his motion for a call
of the House until tomorrow, when he should enforce it,
unle•s, in the interval, it was intimated that his Majesty
had recalled Lord Grey and his Colleagues to his Councils.
Whatever mig it be the ',course in proceeding to that,
it would have been fit that the Hon. Memher fur Middle-
sex should have abstained from any such remarks as tho a
he had made, whatever might have been his private feel.
ing : it would have been better for his Sovereign for
whom he had no doubt the Hon. 'Member had as peat an
affection as he had, and it would have been better for the
fam. ly.
Mr. GILLON thought that those who had adopted pro•
ceedings like those referred to in the Petition were un-
worthy the name of Reformers, as he felt convinced no
persnn having the interest of Reform at heart would have
so acted.

Mr. Alderman HUGHES wished to make a few oh-
servations. It would be in the recollection of the House
that a similar petition to the one now under discussion had
been presented from the Common Council of the City of
London. The public were not admitted during the debate
on that petition, hut some person had furnished the press
with a report of the speech which he was said to have
made on that occasion; that speech stated him to have re-
presented that all the Aldermen present, six in number,
had stated that they should vote against the petition; now
he was in the judgment of the House whether that statement
was col rest, what he had stated was, that to that part of the
petition which went to the refusal of the Supplies, all the
Alderm-n present, of whom he was one, did object. He
had stated that it was absurd and unjust to withhold sup-
plies from an Administration, the members of which were
not known to the House, nor their measures. It ap-
psared to him by such a step, according to the reports that
were now current and he hoped, to hear those reports
authenticated that night—they should be refusing supplies
to the same Administration to whom the country was so
much indebted for bringing forward the Reform
(Cheel a. )
Colonel DAVIES said, if an Administration was
formed under the auspices of tEe Duke of Wellinglon, he
should ne one of the first for withholding the supplies, till
a full and efficient Reform had been carried. He trusted
the report was true that the Duke of Wellington had
given up all thought of formidg a❑ Administration, and
lhat his Majesty had determined to receive again into his
Councils those Ministers who dad done so much for their
country, as he should he very sorry to see the Reform
Bill taken out of their hands.

After some observation.; from Mr. RUNT and Mr.
Alderman WAIT/MAN, the petition was ordered to be
printed. The Hon. Member then pret.entell a similar pe-
tition from Liverpool.

Mr. EWART felt thankful to his Hon. Friend
for presenting the petion for him which he had
done. It was agreed to at one of the largest meetings that
had ever taken place at Liverpool, in which the spirit of
Reform had been cowinually increasing.
Mr. HUME trusted the House would excuse him for
making a few observations. Conciliation he was in !lows
was now about to take place, and be trusted, therefore,
that Hon. Members would refrain, till flutber information
was before the House, from discussing the all important
topics which had occupied their attention so much that
evening. He had, he said, no less than fourteeen petitions
of a nature similar to the two presented ; but be should
withhold the presentation till the reports which were in
circulation were either confirmed or denied. Report said
that Lord Grey had seen his Majesty.—(Loud Cheers.)
If that wepe true he hoped mutual conciliation would take
place, and be therefore trusted, Gentlemen who had pe•
titions to present, of the number he had adverted to, would
hill over until something more definite were known.

Sir E. SUGDEN did not know whether the Hon.
Member for Middlesex was or aot the organ of the Govern-
ment which was not now in its place, but it was his wish
now that no ♦iolent petitions should be presented, because,
forsooth, it might hurt his Majesty's Ministers.—(Cheers
from the Opposition. )—..but when it was a question whe-
ther it was the intention of his Majesty to change the Go-
vernment, no Member of that House was more forward in
advocating the presentation of such petitions than the Him.
Member himself. He (Sir E. Sugdrn) found no fault
with Hon. Members for expressing their feelings strongly
in behalf of Reform, but he could not hut complain of
Hon. Members not adopting the same course, when his
Majesty had a Whig as when he proposed to have a Tory
Administration.

Mr. HUME rose amidst loud cries of question. He
should have been exceeoingly sorry to have introduced
anything which hid made an improper use of his Ma-
jesty's name. If there had been any a!teration in his man-
ner, he could assure the Hon. Member that alteration
had been made for the purpose of calming the agitation of
the Hon. Gentleman.—(Cheers and laughter.)

Mr. BARING ststed, that the Commission for the for-
mation of a Goverment by the Duke of Wellington was en-
tirely and completely at an end, and he trusted that
the arrangements which would now be made would
meet with the approbation of all parties, and
would terminate in tho benefit of ehe country._
(Hear, hear.) It had bees generally supposed that
the Duke of Wellington had actually accepted office from
the King, that he was most anxious to state was not the
fact : he had been merely intrusted by his Majesty with
the formation of a Ministry, under the circumstances in
which the country was placed.