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trial respecting an East Indianian that had run doyva a vesssvaelo
,
and remembered that the East India Company were converted
to pay damages.
Mr. A. Cti A PMAN defended the conduct cf the Ada dralty.
Mr. G. F. YOUNG said if the Admiralty would conseet
to go into the facts of the case, and to hear both side s, he
wo rid venture to say ne behalf of the petitioners, .that they
would be perfectly satisfied.
Mr. C. WOOv ouseryed that in many cases when the
party gained the cause, they lost consilerably by the costs.
Mr. G. F. YOUNG said, if the Admiralty would sustain
the costs, he would advise the petitioners at once to commence
their action. The Hon. Member then presented a petition
from an individual named Edward Edwards, complaining of
the loss of life occasioned by the defective mechanism of the
pumps now in use in the Royal Navy.
DELFAsa 1t:1.661'10N.
Mr. SHARMAN CRAWFORD presented a petition from
certain electors of Belfast, complaining of the conduct of the
revising barristers at the late election. The Hon. Member was
proceeding to read the petition, when
Mr. GOULBURN rose to order, and objected to the
Hon. Member reading the petition through, especially as it
contained allegations against individuals whose conduct might
become a subject of enquiry before the House.
Mr. SHARMAN CRAWFORD was not going to read
the petition at length, he was only stating the allegations.—
(" Order, order.")
The SPEAKER reminded the Hon. Gentleman of the
other objection, and put 'it to the Hon. Member whether it
would be proper to present a petition calculated in any way to
prejudice a case which was likely to come before the House.
Mr. S. CRAWFORD was ready to submit to the decision
of the Speaker, and therefore would withdraw the petition.
The SPEAKER made some observations which were in-
audible in the gallery ; but
Mr. S. CRAWFORD said that he certainly would abide
by the opinion of the Speaker, and withdraw the petition.
The petition was then withdrawn.
CORPORATION BILL.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL moved that the Order of the
Dey be read for resuming the consideration of the Lords'
amendments to the Municipal Reform Bill.
Mr. HUME postponed till Friday next the resolution of
which he had given notice, respecting the loan of fifteen mil-
lions contracted by the Chancellor of the Exchequer.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL proposed now to take the post-
poned clauses. He meant for the present to postpone
the preamble of the Bill, as he intended to move
the omission of certain words introduced by the Lords, and he
would therefore proceed to the second clause. The first
amendment he meant to propose was, to leave out the word
" unjust" as applied to depriving persons in Corporations of
their property ; and next he would move to leave out that part
of the amendment of the Lords, by which exemption front
toll was perpetuated to freemen, instead of being confiaed to
present freemen, and to place the clause in the some condition
in which it had left that House.—Agreed to.
The clause as amended was then agreed to.
Clause 8., which provides that no freeman shall be admitted
by gift or purchase, after some observations from the ATTOR-
NEY-GEKERAL and Sir. W. FOLLETT, and a few verbal amend-
ments, was also agreed to.
The clause with respect. to town-clerks was also agreed to.
The amendments to the clauses up to 11 were agreed. to
without any observation. •
On the al th clause coming under consideration, the amend-
ment to which was " for the purpose of enjoying the rights
conferred for the first time by this Act,"
Mr. WILKS said he had never seen such phraseology in
any Act of 'Parliament.
Lord J. RUSSELL thought the words were necessary for
the purposes of a former amendment.—Agreed to.
Lord J. RUSSELL said the next clause which gave coun-
cils the right of purchasing common lands had been struck
out—he was very sorry for it, but at present he would consent
to it in the hope of a future amendment.
Clauses 14 to 16 inclusive were then passed pee forma.
A Message from the Lords brought up the Tithes oa Tur-
nips Bill and other Bills.
Lord J. RUSSELL would offer no opposition to the 17th
clause, as amended.
Mr. C. BULLER observed, that according to the original
clause the objector was to prove his objection to the officer
elected, a provision which had been done away by the amend-
ment. He supposed it was not of much use to stand out upon
this point, but he thought all these alterations ought to
be noticed, in order that the country might be roused to exer-
cise a wholesome dissatisfaction, which should enable this
House next year to get rid of all those defects.—( Hear.)
Mr. SC ARLETT—Then it would appear from the decla-
rations of Hon. Members opposite that they do not intend that
this measure should be final.—( Loud and repeated cheering
from the Ministerial side of the House.)
The clause was then agreed to.
Clauses 19 and 20 were agreed to, as well as Clause 21,
(the words " Councillor's" being left out,) and Clause 22,
(the words " Councillor's roll" being left out.)
Lord J. RUSSELL then proposed to go to the 47ih clause.
On clause 47 being proposed,
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, the question was whether .
the qualification should. be a continuing qualification, or whe-
ther the person who was qualified having a bona fide qua-
lification at the time he qualified, should be consi-
dered afterwards bound to qualify according to the pro-
visions of the Act. He wishCd to state the question as
fairly as possible, but there were great difficulties in either point
of view. On the whole, however, he did not think they
would be actin!, consistently if they allowed a person who
was once qualified to be so during the three years he would
be a Councillor. He should therefore propose, after the
words that had been agreed to by the House, the insertion
of the words, " without being qualified” at the time of
making such declaration, or during Iris continuance in office.
Mr. ROBINSON had an almost insuperable objection to
the introduction of theee words. A tradesman might render
himself obnoxious to a knot of individuals, who might sue him
by a joint-stock purse. How was a tradesman to know what
his property was at the time a party failed who owed. him
money. That might be taken advantage of, and the man
ruined.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL then rose, and was left
speaking.