The Sun.
London, England, 1835-08-15 00:00:00

LIVERPOOL PETITION.

Mr. EWA RTpre.;i:nted a petition from Liverpool, praying
that the House of:Commons would resist any attempt that
might be made to mutilate the Municipal Corporation Bill,
which petition had been signed by 12,000 persons in
two hours. The Hon. Member stated, that notwithstanding
an adverse petition had been got up, backed by all the
authority and influence of the town, and which had been laid
in the same public room, yet the petition which he had had
the honour of presenting, was signed by a majority of three to
one.—( Hear, hear.)
Mr. SINCLAIR deprecated the presentation of petitions
eon:mining allusions to the proceedings in the House of Lords.
THORN LEY thought it a very remarkable circum-
stance that this great meeting had not thought fit to address
the Howe of Lords. He much regretted-that the other
House did not go along with the people. If they saw
more of the .country, if they visited the manufacturing and
commercial' establishments, they would learn that those per•
sons who maioged those establishments were fit to be entrust-
ed with municipal pffiees. He believed that the present Admi-
histration possessed ;he confidence of the country • and if the
Municipal Bill were thrown out, the present Administration
would establish a higher ticgree of popularity, than any Ad-
ministration bad ever done before..
Mr. A. TREVOR protested egainst the 'charge brought
forward against the House of Loids--•that they were unac-
quainted with the feelings of the people, or indifferent to them.
After a few words from Mr. C. PELHAII, the petition
%rat: laid on the table.
ACTIONS OF EJECTMENT.
Mr. F,WART presented a petition from some individuals
of Livirpenl, praying the House to facilitate process in actions
of ejeetwent•
Lord Sil-ND ON made a few observations in support of the
prayer of the a.tter petition.
MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS.

Alderman WO OD presented a petition signed by se-
veral thousand inLqlaitants of the City of London,
and emanating from one of the most numerous meet-
ings he had ever seen a:sembled within the walls of the
Guildhall, in favour of the Municipal Corporation Bill, and
praying that House to pass a similar measure for Ireland.
The petitioners hoped that if the Bill now before the other
House was mutilated, or its principle destroyed in any way,
that that House would not adopt it, but would take such im-
mediate measures as might seem to it necessary. The Hon.
Member also presented a similar petition from Gloucester,
which he had only received a few minutes before he entered
the House.
GREAT YARMOUTH ELECTION.
• Sir J. Y. BULL E R, as Chairman of the Committee appoint_
eclto try the merits of the petition complaining of the last election
for this borough brought up the Report of the Committee.—
( Loud lea of " Read, read," followed b% cries of," No, no,"
and .erin."),4;,
On thequestur). \that it be printed,
ELP FUN RTO NE, as an individual Member of that
Committee, woulcliike that opportunity of stating that every
allegation\in the'pet4ion had been proved.—( Loud cries of
" Bear, hear.")
Mr. TOCRED gave notice that on Thursday, the 20th
instant. 'he 5-117VINtlhove that his Majesty's Attorney-General
_lee &meted rosecute every person implicated in these pro-
eeedipgs.,—( Cheers.)
Mr; O.I.PHINSTONE gave notice that early nest Scs-

ion he should move for leave to bring in a Bill to disfratelise
the Borough of Great Yarmouth.—( Cheers.)
Dr. 110 WRING understood that the Committee had re-
used to allow the expenses of the petitioners : be would give
notice that the expenses of those individuals be discharged.—
(Hear, hear.)
Sir JOHN Y. BULLER said the Committee had no pre-
cedent to go by, and they had therefore suggested that the
proper course for the parties would be to petition that House.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL intimated that he intended,
during the course of the night, to move that the House should
sit to-morrow at 12 o'clock. for the purpose of getting on with
such Bills as were before them.
YORK ELECTION COMMITTEE.
Mr. G. F. YOUNG, alluding to some observations
which were not heard in the Gallery, said he was
obliged to express the surprise he felt to find a new
member upon the York Committee, after they had been
sitting for nine days taking evidence. He said so
impartially, fur there was no man for whom he had nicro
respect than the member whom had been named. he
Committee had acted as far as possible in the manner of
Election Committees, and be spoke for every Member—they
were most anxious to sit and hear all the evidence.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said his only intention was to
assimilate the Committee to that of an Election Committee;
he had no other object.
Mr. M. ATTWOOD made a charge against the Gov, rn-
ment upon the appointment of the Committee, but from his
low tone of voice, and the noise in the House, not a word of it
was heard.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL, in reply to Mr. M. Attwood, said
the Hon. Member had argued that these Committees should be
chosen by ballot, which was an original proposition made by him
(Lord J. Russell), and which he abandoned in consequence of a
strong representation, not from any of his friends or partisans, but
the Right Hon. Member for Tamworth. He had been requested
to name a limited number of Members, instead of having
the ballot, because it might happen that sometimes the
Committee might consist of Members all on one side.—
( Hear, hear.) Now, with regard to these Committees,
those on his side of the House complained that he had left
them in a minority. The present Committee consisted
of Mr. M. Attwood, Mr. W. Egerton, Major Fancourt, Mr.
Welby, Mr. G. F. Young, Captain Alsager, Mr. Pusey,
Mr. Brotherton and Mr. Grote.—( Hear.) Out of these nine
he could recognize only four who generally voted on the Minis-
terial side ; and as to those on the other side, he thought them
to be gentlemen who upon a question of this kind would be
likely to give their unbiassed opinion, uninfluenced by party
feeling. There were five who voted in the minority of the House
—( Cries of No, yes. hear, and laughter.) There was Mr.
M. Attwood ; of him ;here could be no doubt; to adopt the com-
mon language of the day, he was a Tory, and more than a Tory.
Then there were Mr. W. Egerton and Mr. G. F. Young—
Mr. G. F. YOUNG (rising)—" No, I beg pardon."—
(Laughter and cheers.)
Lord J. RUSSELL resumed—the fourth was Mr. Alsager,
and the fifth, Mr. Pusey. These five gentlemen were most-.
certainly found on the opposite,„„aile. If the House thought
that these Committees ought to be chosen by ballot, he should
not stand in opposition to the plan.
Mr. G. F. YOUNG denied that he had voted so often
against the Noble Lord as intimated, and assured his Lord-
ship that such an opinion would not make him abstain from
doing that which he had always done, voting according to his
conscience. .

VV
Colonel PERCEVAL felt it his duty to state, that not one
Member on his side of the House had been appointed on the
Committee on Orange Lodges.—( Hear, hear.)
Mr. HUME begged to submit a resolution of that Lodge
—( Great hiNhter)—he begged pardon, that Committee.
Mr. PEASE rave notice that he should move for all the
evidence on the York Slection Committee.
ORANGE. LODGES.
Mr. HUME moved that a oxessage be sent to his Grace
the Duke of Gordon, and to the Right Honourable Lord
Kenyon, requesting their attendance before the Select
Committee of the House, which had been appointed to inquire
into the Orange Lodges of Ireland. He begged to state in answer
to an observation that had been thrown out, that a communi-
cation had been made to the Hon. Members for Cardiff and
Buckingham, requesting them to attend, and stating that they
might send in any name they chose, but which communication
had not been attended to.
Colonel PERCEVAL would give the Hon. Member fer
Middlesex credit for wishing that which was just and proper,
but all he could say was that he was very much interested in
the inquiry that was going on.
Mr. HUME—Then I move that the Hon. and Gallant
Member be appointed a member of the Lodge—( Hear, hear,
and great laughter)—a member of the Committee, I mean.
Colonel PERCEVAL—" No, no."
Sir THOMAS FREMANTLE would ask the Hon.
Member for Middlesex whether he thought it right that the
Committee should pursue its enquiry further than the present
session.—( Cries of " Oh, oh I")
Mr. WARBURTON said the object of this and other Com-
mittees was to enquire and not to adjudicate. The evidence
that had been collected by the Committee was laid before the
House, and the House would adjudicate upon the subject.
Colonel PE R.O E VAL said that when men were appointed
upon a Committee who were all on one side, they were very
likely to be led away by their feelings.
Mr. ROEBUCK wanted to know whether the Hon. and
Gallant Colonel applied that principle to an Orange Grand
Jury in Ireland ?—( Loud cheers.)
Colonel PERCEVAL said that the Orange Grand Jury
were upon their oaths, and every case brought before them
was considered dispassionately, honestly, and impartially.—
( Cries of " Oh, oh.")
The SPEAKER then put Mr. Hume's motion from the
Chair, which was agreed to.
Mr. HUME then moved separately that Captain Gor-
don, Sir J. Y. Buller, and Colonel Fancourt be added to the
Committee, but the Hon. Members all declined the honour.
In answer to a question from Sir R. BATE SON,
Lord MORPETH vindicated the Irish Government from
the charge brought against certain prisoners tried at the last
assizes of Londonderry. The Noble Lord said that he had
received a petition in favour of the ring-leader of the prisoners,
signed by the twelve jury, and surely if this prisoner deserved
favour, the argument was still stronger in favour of the other
prisoners.
After a few words from Mr. JONES, Sir R. FERGUSON, and
Mr. SHAW, the conversation dropped.
SLAVE COMPENSATION BILL.
The Order of the Day for the third reading of this Bill was
read ; and after an observation from Mr. HUME, the Bill
was read a third time, and passed.