The Sun.
London, England, 1859-05-30 00:00:00

,LVAGro-UR ,TION OF NEW STEAN .LINES FROM MILFORD HAVEN.

A number of
.gentir en connected with the rail-
waylreland visited Milford interests of South Wales and
and shippins-
of inspecting the on Saturday for the purpose
w steam-ship lines projected
inaugurating the new capabilities of the. harbour, and
M.P., presided at the dinner.
from that port.
Mr. Lever,
The health of her Majesty and.the Prince Con-
sort and the Royal Family havia'nits been drunk with
the usual demonstrations of lo
MAXWELL Navy"
was re-
The toast of the " Army yandy'
sponded to by Captai
n
RAMSAY, the latter gentleman p and Captain
same time the House of Commonia-oposing at the
it the name of Mr. Roebuck, M.P. ' coupling with
Mr. ROEBUCK, in replying to the toast, said —As --.s
a member of tho House of Commons, I feel it I
l
compliment to have my name associated
witl
greatth
toast which has just been proposed 1 e
friend. The House of Commons by my gallant
I believe to be the
governors of England ; that is to say, we govern
ourselves, and if we govern ourselves badly it is our
own fault ; hut I do not believe we do govern
our-
selves badly. (Cheers.) Ibelieve that in all which
has passed
passed of very groat importa th
e House of
itself to be
Commons has shown- ' nue—
a fair type of Eng-
lish intelligence, has gence, proved itself worthy of the
power and responsibility which, le people of Eng-
land has cast upon it, *
tale
and I`as shown itself a good
governor of this dgreat kin-
om. (Ch eers.) If everthere was a crisis in s c whit) '
he House of Commons
engaged it is the presr. ,was
snt one. We have seer - time ,great changes,. .in our
The world has )-
vulsed, the 110e-,e of C seen con-
ommons has
England has ',seen kept in her posis•,„„ by
stood firr A.
of the T-1.
--011-fse of Commons, and iP ---- me .ans
people it, is because you are lf a
se :. you are al, apnv
governed. (C ' r•-
The gallant gentleman has stated that • ,heers.)
-
~ ear the House of Commons has been
it the last
V ener • 1
support of the navy. The imputation b• '
1 thatous r/
asser-
tion is that before last year the Roust,
of Commons
was not generous. To that'l give m- v most• distinct
dux: ial. There has never been a Years ."
h
refw which millions
have not been voted for the defensfe o
•
if there has been any deficiency *'',..t has E
been in the
Ministers of Englandand not 1•,
A the House of Com-
mons. (Cheers.) Upon tha4 •
, I pledge myself. I
wish it to go forth to ti'
se, world, and I assert it
distinctly, that throughout
the time of the Reformed
House of Commons the '
Azotection of England has
been complete and genr.aous, and upon no one occa-
sion can you lay at 1-1
,/edoor of the House of Com-
mons any un worth-
/ rsimon But
y.we have come
to a great crisis. ileplaiouse of
deal with partir
governed Commonsh
thisnow to
is who have long
try. What I •
dow say is not merely addressed coun:
.. to this
table, but upon_ the wings of
I may say, if will
c°3llmg,l}l:ouse of Commons is '
about to enter on a
crisis w-a• c 1 i has occupied the consideration of Eng-
land_
for centuries past. Europe is now in the midst
es. war, carried on against a Power which can do no
injury to England, however it may injure other
countries. We shall be called upon in this crisis,
probably about the 7th of next month, to decide
whether or not the English Parliament will put
faith in the present Government, or flat which is
looming in the future. And .vhat is looming in the
future P It is that which I have seen d • uring my
political life, now extending crier more than 26
years, viz., combined with the most violent profes-
sions of public policy, of regf'srd for the public in-
terest, the most intense consideration for private
emolument, which is held out for us in exchange
from the present Government ? (Loud cheers.)
I know well the meanin-
g- of that cheer from
my friend, who is '4 supporter of the present
Government, and Who is glad of anything which
may be said in t'neir support. But, here lam
perfectly neutraL,'and I asked myself—What am I
to do ? You hr.ve led me into this—l did not wish
to speak to-night ; but you have led me into these
matters. We have to choose upon the 7th of June
whether we shall have Lord Palmerston or Lord
Derby for Prima-, Minister. That is the question
which the How.le of Commons will have to decide.
I see before, me the members for Galway and
Merthyr Tridvil, who will be found in the Opposi-
tion camp when that decision is come to. And I,
in what ',tamp shall Ibe ? I shall be in the camp of
the Pecple of England, and that camp I sincerely
believie to be opposed to Lord Palmerston. (Cheers
and cries of Bravo !) Oh, there is• no " bravo" in
it. (A laugh.) It is a miserable contingency
--it is like the war in Italy—whichever side is
uppermost mischief must come. (Cheers and
laughter.) What am Itodo ? lam a poor inde-
pendent member, and have to choose between one
side or the other, and I say that the least mischief
may come from not changing the Administration,
and, what is more, I believe that we shall succeed
in preventing that change. (Cheers.) I know
that there has been a combination, I know that
Cambridge-house has gone down to Pembroke-
lodge, and that the ladies have met. (A laugh.) I
know that peace has been made, but England has
been forgotten. The only consideration which is
regarded is that of the parties themselves, but as an
independent member my consideration is England,
and for England's sake—l say for God's sake—
don't choose Lord Palmerston. (Cheers,) I know
well what I shall encounter by saying this. I know
perfeetly well there is no party se admirable in the
use of calumny as the Whig party, and everything
that calumny can devise, or that lying can supply,
will be adopted by that party. (Cheers.) 1 full
well understand the case, and the words I am em-
ploying, and I believe that the result will be as I
now predict, that the House of Commons will not
change the present Administration against that
hurrie3 compact which is now pretended to be
made between Lord John Russell and Lord. Pal-
merston. (Cheers.) Lord. John Russell has in
time past so far demeaned himself as to take
advice from me, but upon the present occasion
he has carefully abstained, from that course,
and not one word have I heard either from
him or his followers of the new compact made
at Cambridge-house. I have found that Lord
Palmerston is false and hollow, and that as to his
being a Liberal what his own Solicitor-general,
Mr. Stuart Wortley, said at the late West Riding
election, when some person called him a Liberal,
" Don't be too of sure that," applied to that noble lord.
(A laugh.) I was sure of it at once. lam now dis-
possessed of that belief, and I am convinced that the
great enemy of the Liberal party is now to be
found in Lord Palmerston, and upon that ground
I will oppose him. I have opposed him, and, God
willing, we shall be successful. (Cheers.) Time
will show, it runs apace, and the 7th of June
will rapidly come, and then your friend and the
member for Merthyr Tydvil will have an
opportunity of showing what he thinks of
Lord Palmerston. He will then be enabled
to say whether he believes he is a Minister
who will properly conduct the affairs of England
to the interests of the country, and whether he
believes the combination between him and Lord J.
Russell is or is not a mere hollow truce, calcu-
lated to break up the power of England, and leave
us to the mercy of European despotism. Think
what would occur at the present moment. Europe
is at war, hostilities are raging in Italy, and if at
the present moment we get rid of Government
altogether, and have an interregnum, without any
power to govern or control this country, we should
be answerable, not only to the people of England of.
the present, but to coming generations, for every
mischief that will follow. (Cheers.) My object is
to vindicate what I believe will be the course of the
House of Commons. I cannot believe that that
house will so far forget its duty and forfeit its
power over the people of England as to return
' into the councils for the Government of this coun-
try one so utterly inefficient as Lord Palmerston.
I was told by very high authority, before I left
London, that Lord John Russell and Lord Palmer-
ston had made up their differences, that Lord Palmer-
ston was to be Prime Minister, and that Lord John
Russell was to serve under him. In the present
condition of things I think that would be a great
mischief. Lord Palmerston's appearance as First
Minister of the Crown would be throughout the
whole Continent a torch of war. (Cheers and cries
of " Oh, oh.") War I object to, and I believe that
England cannot gain by going to war with any
Power on the Continent. Our great interest is
peace. Let others tear themselves to pieces ; let
France and Austria fight as long as they please ;
but England to look on quietly if they wish to
destroy themselves, and should only be opposed to
any Power which may be thoroughly victorious.
Suppose Austria was to be the conqueror, what
would be the result ? Why, that Italy would ever
be what she has been ever since the word began—
at the feet of some other power. Look back either
into ancient or modern Italy, and there was not to
be found the sign of any self-government in any part
of that country. Arts no doubt flourished in the
middle ages. Italy was great, and the
wonderful
intellect of her people made her great, and prevented
united action and government. Take the other
side of
the picture. Suppose France victorious, what would
you have ? You would have Frenchmen governing
I know that
Etruria, Romagna, Naples, and Savoy.
Kossuth, who has but one idea, says that the vic-
tory of Austria would be injurious to the
othernations of the world. But what have other nationsdone for the world compared with that which Eng-
Engl
.and is now at the very
apex
land has achieved ?
torch -
of civilisation—she is the
of liberty.
All that is great and liberal in the government of
mankind has emanatedfrom England, and I cannot
but think that the victory
of France 'over Austria
would, by being detrimental to the interests of
England, be injurious to the best interests of the
world. I know that Kos§uth with his wonderful

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the attacks of hostile Powers, ricceBsfil4ty from
upon her fleet. The liberty of the
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depends
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tamed by the power of England, an
main-
mainly resides in her fleets. (Cheer,.
will forgive me for introducinghope you
I have lived a politician all my , am. one now,
and I cannot help speaking whr
At I think. I look
to England as the great sun existence, and
to her welfare and the cor.„; • my
Aeration of her well-
being I would sacrifice my e. (Cheers.)
,existence. The CHAIRMAN next n.p
lency the Lord Lieutene ye the toast of his Excel-
nt of Ireland, who had con-
stantly devoted himsel
to the task of fostering and
encouraging the corn
interests of Ireland coerce and promoting the best
The toast was r
The CHApitxt, lost Cordially drunk.
new Steamship •4 then proposed Prosperity to the
lieved that in / Lines of Milford Haven." He be-
was involved ,he establishment of these lines there
For the so-, - a glorious future for Milford Haven.
China. • dtlierne portioa of America, for India, for
port:,,INT•Af.
Brazilian, Lisbon, and Portuguese
Ord possessed great facilities 6:e t• as a point of
Par are. He felt proud at seeing himselfs
urrounded
by so many influential gentlemen who had associated
the mselves with him in inaugurating this great
Adertaking. The commencement of great enter-
prises was often very insignificant. In the case of
the great Peninsular and Oriental Company, their
first voyage was made by a vessel worth £4,000 or
£5,000, which was chartered for the purpose, and
if this company had but one small vessel to open
up these lines they might look for a prosperous
future ; for, in addition to the commerce which
might flow into the port, the land in the immediate
neighbourhood possessed in its bosom great stores
of mineral wealth which, owing tq the apathy
of the people of South Wales, had not yet been
developed. While engaged in the establishment of
the Galway Line he felt the great importance which
existed of rapid, frequent, and punctual steam
routes, combined at the same time with those which
possessed the element of safety. (Cheers.) Milford
Haven was a port which, in the present European
‘crisis, could command the whole of the British
Channel, and world afford a safe anchorage for the
whole of the British nay. In a commercial point
of view the harbour-`also possessed many great
advantages. To shorten the time between Milford
and Galway- was a matter of no small importance.
The last ship that sailed from the port of Galway
carried away 643 passengers. This was a number
wholly unprecedented for any one steam ship to
carry for so long a distance. There was nothing
to show why they could not fill two ships a week
from the port of Galway. He knew it had been
put forth that they could not land a single passen-
ger at Galway, that there was no safe anchorage,
and other matters, which they had proved to the
world was all nonsense, and the charges brought
against the port were nothing but calumnies of the
blackest character. He had no wish whatever to
elevate the position of Galway at the' expense of
any other port. There was abundance of room fpr
all enterprises calculated to promote the commerce
and elevate the condition of the working classes of
this great empire. (Cheers.) It could not be questioned
that the port of Milford possessed great advantages
as compared with Southampton, not the least of
which were its security and the cheapness and
facility for coaling the steamers. In the case of
ships laden with gold going to Southampton, they
had Cherbourg starinc, them in the face, but they
could run into Ililfo;c1 without any necessity for
incurring the risks of the Channel. The great steam
ship companies, too, would know and appreciate the
advantages of buying coals at 10s. or lls. per ton in
this port, instead of paying twi :e that sum at South-
ampton, and being broken up, as theynow were, by
the transhipment to which they were subjected.
He was glad to be in a position to announce that
so far as the trade of Cork was concerned, arrange-
ments had been made for commencing at once
with a daily line of steamers between Milford and
that city. (Cheers.) He looked upon the develop-
ment of trade and commerce as most important to
the best interests of the working classes. He
was no politician, tend was an unpractised
speaker; his politics were commerce. He entered
the House of Commons as the representative of
commerce, and by the help of God he intended to do
his duty in the position in which he was placed.
The hon. member concluded by proposing the toast,
coupling with it the health of Mr. William Owen,
the high sheriff of the county of Pembroke.
The toast was drunk with loud and repeated
cheers.

- Mr. HOLME, Mayor of Pembroke, proposed The
Directors of the South Wales Railway and the
Great Western Railway Company."
Mr. BRUCE, M.P., in responding to the toast.
took occasion to state that as the cost of the
docks at Pennar, to which reference had been made,
would be not less than £300,000, afforded a reason
for inducing the company to pause before incur-
ring that expenditure. There had existed great un-
certainty as to when the terminus of the line would
be required to be made, and it would have been
extremely imprudent, without some immediate
prospect of return, to embark a large capital in such
an undertaking. He was glad, however, now to
be in a position to state that the directors of the
South Wales _Company had taken, if not a positive,
at least a pfeliminary resolution, with respect to
the policy of when the docks should be made.
(Cheers.) It was hardly necessary to state that, in
the opinion of the directors the success of the South
Wales Railway depended upon the development of
the line west of Swansea. (Cheers.) He saw no rea-
son whatever why Milford Haven should not be a
great port, and great advantages would result to
the manufacturers and employers of labour in South
Wales if a mere extensive communication existed
between Ireland and that port. He was himself
an employer of about 7,000 men, many of whom
were Irishmen, and a great portion of whose
provisions and articles of consumption might be
beneficially obtained from Ireland. (Cheers.) Mr.
Roebuck, who was well known to be a true
son of Ishmael, whose hand was against every-
body's—(a laugh)—had made some remarks of
a personal nature respecting him, and to some
he felt it necessary to refer. Like Mr. Roebuck, he
could not look with satisfaction at the success of
either France or Austria in the present conflict on
the Continent. (Cheers.) That was not, however'
the question which they would have to decide in
the House of- Commons. That question would be
whether or not the present Ministers were entitled
to the confidence of the country ? That was the
issue upon which Lord Derby and his Ministers
went to the country, and that was the one which
the new House of Commons would have to
decide. He had always considered that though
Lord Palmerston had many qualities worthy of
consideration, yet that his foreign policy was
always dangerous and intermeddling, and in the
treatment of small States it was not unfrequently
unworthy and pusillanimous. Not that he thought
Lord Palmerston was wanting in courage, because
he could not but recollect that he was ready enough
to beard France in the Syrian affair in 1840. That
Lord .Palmerston became Prime Minister was not
simply owing to the affair of Pacifico, but to his
overthrow of the Government of Lord Aberdeen ;
and Mr. Roebuck had more to do with putting
Lord Palmerston at the head of the Government
than and upon that occasion he
voted
Roebuck. He was not a blind
anybodywith Mr. else,Roe
admirer of Lord Palmerston. He believed him
to be deficient of that one quality to which he
(Mr. Bruce) attached the greatest importance,
viz., earnestness and sincerity of motive,
and he would only be found among the fol-
lowers of that noble lord when he found that the
course which he proposed was one which the
country ought to pursue. (Cheers.) He did not
believe that the Government about to be formed
would be that of Lord Palmerston, and thought that
he would occupy a subordinate place in the Cabinet..
Lord
Lord Palmerston had, to a great extent by his own
public men was frequently
Palmerston. The path of
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to be taken. Mr.
with respect to the proper course
Roebuck and himself were arrayed upon different
tvreablien
sides, but he trusted the company present would
atrnidcacteo,nasi
ndderaittionfteton
give
them both credit for acting as honest and
independent men. (Cheers.)
Mr. ROEBUCK, in explanation, said that he was
glad to find that, at least so far as the question of
having Lord Palmerston at the head of the Govern-
ment was concerned, there was identity of opinion
between his honourable friend and himself.
Several other toasts were proposed, and the meet-
ing broke up.

It is reported that M. Benedetti, Director of the
Political Department in the French Foreign-office, hat 3 been
appointed to an extraordinary mission to the German. Con-
federation.

HAIR-BREADTH ESCAPE.—AN AMERICAN SVORY.:
—A workman in the employ of Mr. R. B. Lawi on, of
Hudson, on Saturday, had a remarkable escape. ?He lay
down upon the track of the Hudson River Railway, using
the rail for a pillow. The spot selected for his comb was
very near the place where Rafferty was killed a day or tyro
previous. When the night express passed up the rattling
of the ears and the bellowing of the locomotiv o iiled to
awaken him, and as the train whizzed past it .cut off his
hair close to the scalp. Miraculous as it may al bpci the
man escaped injury, but his personal appearauc
disfigured,—Arew York, Post. e tic; ightly