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By a return of exports and imports from and
into Great Britain, it appears that from 1799 to 1820 the real
value of goods exported greatly exceeded the official value.
From the year 1821 to 1830, the reverse has been the case, and
the ratio in which the excess of official value has increased
over the real value is nearly fifteen to one. This effect has
been produced by Sir Robert Peel's Currency Bill, by our pro-
digious improvements in machinery, and by the equally prodi-
gious folly of foreigners in restricting trade, and in endea-
vouring to compete with us in manufacturing industry. The
Parliamentary returns from Ireland show a very different result.
The excess of the real value of exports over the official value
increased three.fold. It would appear from this, that whilst
England has been rapidly improving, Ireland has been retro-
glade in the application of intelligence and in science to her in.
dlustry. _ _

The following tons of lead have been ex-
ported from Great Britain in the year ending sth January,
1832 :—Pig-lead and shot, 6,777; red lead, 281 ; white lead,
434 ; and litharge, 334 tons. The principal exports have been
to India and China, Russia, the United States of America, and
the Brazils. _ _ .

Yesterday Count Orloff, attended by his
Secretary, Baron Brunow, visited the barracks in the Regent's
l'ark, where his Excellency inspected a detachment of the 2d
Regiment of Life Guards, commanded by Colonel the Hon.
Edw. P. Lygon. The contemplated cavalry review is, we under-
stand, fixed to take place in a few days, in order to gratify the
desire of the Count to witness the evolutions of thedistiguished
regiments composing the Household Brigade. The Duke of
Devonshire gave an elegant dinner on Wednesday to his Ex-
cellency and a select party, and in the evening he attended the
assembly at Ashburnham House. Sir James Graham visited
his Excellency yesterday at the Clarendon Hotel.
The East India Company's ships Farquhar-
son and General Kyd arrived, the former off Portland, the 2d
instant. and the latter off the Start the 3d instant. The Far-
quharson left China the 17th November, and St. Helena the 2d
February. The General Kyd left China the 27th November,
and St. Helena the 12th of the same month. The Mangles ar-
rived at St. Helena on the 9th February, and proceeded on her
voyage the following day.
The author of " Lawrie Todd" has just pub-
lished another work of a somewhat similar nature to that popu-
lar production, entitled " Stanley Buxton." No writer of the
present day, it is generally admitted, excels Mr. Galt in depict-
ing the habits and pursuits of his countrymen. The " Laird,"
" Provost," " Minister," &c., are sketches of actual life, the
truth of which may in some measure be inferred from their
extraordinary popularity throughout Scotland. Stanley Buxton
is another specimen of this author's rare and peculiar powers :
his portraits of the " Minister's Wife," the " Dominie's Wife,"
and the " Auld Auntie," are true to nature.

By the appointment of Lieutenant-General
Sir Frederick Adam to the Government of Fort St. George, or
Madras, the office of Lord High Commissioner of the lonian
Islands, now held by Sir Frederick, becomes vacant. The
Gallant General received his new appointment during his
absence from this country, having returned to the seat of Go-
vernment at Corfu in the autumn of last year. The Lord
High Commissioner of the lonian Islands is also Commander.
in-Chief of the forces there, and a Member of the Privy Council.
The present Governor of Madras, the Right Hon. Stephen
Rumbold Lushington, has been recalled, and may be expected
to arrive in England before the end of the year The Right
Hon. Gentleman went out In 1827, when he resigned the post
of Joint Secretary to the Treasury. During his sojourn in
India he has been in the receipt of 1,5001. per annum for his
services at home. The salary of Governor of Madras is about
10,000/. per annum, which is paid to that functionary by the
East India Company. We understand that Sir Charles Col-
ville, Commander-in-Chief and Governor of the Mauritius, has
been also recalled.
CAUTION.--WHOLESALE SWINDLING.—
On Tuesday the rid instant, a fellow, respectably attired, went
to the shop of Mrs. Austin, linen.draper, in Rathbone.place,
and selected a lady's boa, which he requested to be sent to No.
16, Alfred-place, Bedford.square, for the inspection of his
wife. It was accordingly sent, and returned to the young man,
with an intimation that the lady did not approve of it, at the
same time requesting to see an assortment of rich black gros
de Naples, black and white silk hose, rich black veils, India
bandannas, &c. On his return he was informed the lady
had altered her mind respecting the boa, and, desiring
he would immediately step back and fetch it, he incautiously
complied; and after a few minutes' absence, oa his return to
the house, found the fellow had decamped with the whole of
the property, in value nearly 1001. It subsequently appeared
the house was let in furnished apartments, and the fellow, who
gave his name Dr. Harvey, had occupied them but a few hours
previous to the transaction. He had made frequent purchases
at the shop some weeks previous, no doubt to lull suspicion, for
the more successful accomplishment of his villanous intention.

The Mat quis of WESTMEATH, in rising to make the
motion of which he had given notice, was desirous to the
assure the House that he felt no hostility to the
Noble Marquis at the head of the Irish Government. He
would now disclaim having any such disposition against the
Noble Etrl opposite (Earl Grey) or those who sup-
ported him, to many of whom he was indebted for
the seat which he had the honour of holding
in that House. He felt, however, that a crisis in pubic
affairs had arrived, which entitled every man to think
for himself.—(Hear. hear.) He gave every man lati-
tude to speak his sentiments at such a conjuncture;
he trusted that the Noble Earl would allow the same privi-
leges to him. He felt considerably embarrassed in bring-
ing the subject before the House, but such was the state of
Ireland, that he could not pass over his motion. It
was not out of the minds of their Lordships that
the state of the county of Westmeath last month was
such as to require the magistrates to meet, in order to con-
sider the best course to be adopted for the preservation of
the public peace, and the security of the lives and property
of the inhabitants. He had no hesitation to confess that
he was one of those who had convened the meet
ing, and every magistrate, as well as every gen-
tleman who intended to take out a commission of the
peace, had attended the meeting. He had heard the
Noble Lord declare that he thought it his duty to apply
to Parliament for further powers. Having heard that
declaration of the Noble Earl, he thought he was acting
for the best in bringing the question before the con-
sideration of the House.—(Hear.) This he had con-
sidered the course the most prudent, discreet, and in every
respect the most likely to restore public tranquillity. He
bad hoped that when affairs had come to a certain state,
or at least when they were aggravated by the opposition to
tithes, Government would have been prepared to act
as if the state of society in that country bad been
overturned. He had set forth facts to Government of a
nature to induce them to act in the manner he had anti-
cipated. With reference to society in Westmeath, he would
beg leave to state a few things which occurred in that coun-
ty. About four months ago an honest, innocent man had
entered a puVit house, where, in the course of conversa-
tion, he had accidentally said, the sate of feeling moue the
lower classes was such, that every man stood in his neigh-
bour's way, and it was a pity for their own sakes that they
should go on so.—(Hear.) In less than ten minutes, the
man was way-lain and murdered. The murderers were
well known, several of them were brought forward at the
Asaize, and not a particle of evidence appeared against
them—and what did the House think? Why, they were
acquitted.—(Hear, hear, and a laud lauiih.) It was
no longer sate for any honest man who prosecuted
a faction to live in the country. Persons would give
their information betore a Magistrate, but they could
oat he induced to come forward anti substantiate their evi-
dence in a Court of Liw. Three months ago he had had
a sin ll property in Ireland, and a party of insurgents paid
a visit to a man who collected tithes for his agent. What
did these men do on the occasion of that visit? Why,
they took all his money and burnt all his books.
He (Lord Westmeath), took no notice of this. But
about five months since be found a notice stuck
up, declaring that the people should pay no more
tithes to him till the Reform Bill was passed.
He haul sent an individual to know from each
party what was the state of their account of tithes, but
not one single individual would produce his last receipt.
—(Hear.) What would any Member of that House say
it told ti at his property was to be kept in pledge for
his vote in the Legislature ? Fifty Magistrates of West-
meath had complained of the misrepresentations re-
specting the petition to which he haul alluded,
anti teey particularly, complained about quartering
die dead cow into several halves, and giv-
ing them to their tenants. He believed the Magistrates of
Westmeath were as respectable as any in Ir. land, and it
p aced them in a ridiculous light, to be tr ated as they
had been by Government. Shortly after this c dumny
of quartering a dead cow in man, hives, there appears
an article in the papers, stating that the Magis-
trates of the county were thirsting for the blood of
the people. He wished Noble Lords to reflect on the
effect winch such a statement as this would have on the
peoplei,f that country. The observation went among the
I,eople, aid he knew it was a fact that he was held
forth as thirsting for the blood of his countrymen.
The Noble Marquis then read extracts from the speech of
Mr. O'Connell, delivered at Cionmell, several parts of
which created considerable laughter in die House. This,
continued the Noble Marquis, was the man who had ad-
dressed himself to the grease and sweat of Birmingham, and
came to the Political Union, -taring bow admirably calculated
Englishmen and Irishmen were to be united together, and
that all their di-putes had titherto arisen from misgovern-
ment. The argument he drew from the sea ling of that
was, whether the Government, who had suffered things
like these to go on up to the last ino:rent, or
the Irish Magistrates, were to be charged with indifference.
The Notile Marquis then read part of the reply of
the Lord Li. utenont of Ireland to ti e address of the
Magistrates of the county of Westmeath, which he charac-
terized as a complete fat ce, and a shilly-shally way 0.1 get:-
ring mid of the subject. 11. deprecated his allestys
Government pursuing such a course, and observed that it
was true there was an Administration existing in the
country, hut where the Goveronienc was he could
not discover.—(Laughter.) Noble Lords nii#ht laugh
it they pleased ; but lie, as a Magistrate, would not be
deterred from doing his fluty, and from stating
his cot frientious opinion on this subject. He was the
laSt man who would wish haish measures to be exercised
towards his fellow-subjects in Ireland. His wish was to
see measures of amelioration and coercion going
hand in hand ; but if his Majesty's Govern-
ment would not take a subject of so much importance
into their most serious consideration, he thought it was
the duty of the Magistrates of Ireland to exert themselves
on the subject. The Noble Marquis concluded by moving
that an humble address be presented to his Alajesty,
praying that his Majesty IN Mad be pleased to order
a copy of the address to the Lord Lieutenant of
Ireland from the Magistrates of Westmeath, and his
Escel-
lency's reply thereto, to he laid upon their Lordships
table.

Lord PLUNKET considered that there was no
ground for making any opposition to the motion. It Was,
however, a very unusual one, and extremely unnecessary
unless the Noble Marquis meant to ground some other
motion upon it. He thought the House would
feel perfectly satisfied, if he were to leave the
vindication of the conduct of the Noble Lord at
the IL ad of affrirs in Ireland, and of the policy of
Government, to the statements made by the Noble Mar-
quis himself. The answer of the Lord Lieutenant appeared

to'him to have very prop rly stated the principles and poli
I •
on' which the Government acted. He (Lord Plunket
.4Viltild not follow the Noh'e Marquis through the extranenti,
topics which he had adverted to. He expected that his at
itention wotild have been called to the address of the inhabit
.ants and Magistrates of the county of Wes-meath,.adl th
=answer of the Lord Lieutenant thereto ; instead of that, the
Wiens• had been entertained with extracts of a speech it
iMr. O'Connell's, with respect to whose conduct the tasl.
Aid not devolve upon him to speak, nor was it a part 0
his duty to criticise his tropes and metaphors.
(Laughter.) The Noble Marquis had felt himsel
:hurt at the laughter which had taken plat.
:in the House when he read that part of that speech, sup
posing that it had been levelled against him ; he ' could
assure the Noble Marquis that he was entirely mistaken on
that point, hut the parts of the speech he had s lected wen
of such a nature that it was impossible for the House to
refrain from laughing at t'.em. If the House knew what
the object of the Noble Marquis was in bringing forward
this motion, or the course of policy be wished to be pursued,
they were much more enlightened upon the subject than
he (Lord Plunket) was. What were the facts which had
been stated by the Noble Marquis? Why, that a per
son had been cruelly murdered in the county of West-
meath, and that the persons charged with the murder had
escaped because there was no evidence on which they could
he convicted. He had yet to learn that any man in this
country or in Ireland could be prosecuted without evidence.
it the Noble Marquis said that a system of intimidation
prevailed in Ireland, and that th t system ought to be put
down. In that he concurred most fully with the Noble
Marquis. He believed that a system of intimidation did
prevail in Ireland, and that it was one of the great griev-
ances of Ireland ; and he believed also, that that system
had !wen too inu,.l) yielded to ; and if those whose duty it
particularly nas to stand forward and face the danger did
not lend their hest aid to Government, what was the Go-
vernment to do? He did 11,:t mean to cast any reflection
on the Magistrates of Westmeath p irticularly, but he did
mean to say that there was too great a tendency in some
parts of Ireland 'o truckle to the system of intimidation
which prevailed in that country ; and what could the Go-
vernment do unless .issisted by the gentlemen of the
country ? It was not Westmeath only which had been
disturbed ; Clare and Limerick had been disturbed
in a much greater degree, and yet now they were
tranquil without the use of additional and more coercive
laws. The dis'urbances in Clare—the system of in-
timidation—rapine and murder, prevailed in Clare to a
degree which it would be impossible for him to paint, and
the Government was called upon to take some short cuts
to enact laws of extraordinary severity—but at that time
the Government gave the same answi r which the Lord
Lieutenant of Ireland had lately eivt,n to the fifty-one
Magistrates of Westmeath, namely, that they trusted and
believed they should I.e able to restore peace, anti re-esta-
blish tranquillity, without going beyond the existing law.
And what was the result? 'l'hnt Clare was in a state of
as perfect tranquillity as any county in England. And
seeing his, without any offence to Westmeath, he would
beg to express his trust and confidence, that after some
time, and doubtlessafter the display of much angry feeling,
order and tranquillity would in like manner be restored in
that country. Alludir.g, however, to the general state of
things in Westme Ali, the Noble 111 it-gels said that he would
much rather prefer to it an open rebellion ; for he con-
tended that there the loyal and peaceable inhabitants had
no security fir life or property.
Here a NOBLE Loan from the cross-benches said " that
is the truth."

Lord PLUNKET did not know whether the Noble
Lord meant that the statement of the Noble Marquis was
the truth, or the proposition which he had himself enun-
ciated; if the latter, he thanked the Noble Lord. But to
proceed—lf this ripen rebellion was a desirable object, he
knew no better means for attaining it than having the
Lord-Lieutenant of the county and the Magistrates attack-
ing the Government in the way they hail done. He next
begged to remark, that the Noble Marquis had not fa-
voured them with any of the causes of those disturbances,
excepting simply the aversion to the payment of tithes;
but how did the Noble Marquis think that he was adding
to the chance of maintaining or restoring the public peace
iii Ireland when he thus arraigned the Government of
the country at the very moment when they were ocru-
pied on the one baud in the endeavour to give satisfac-
tion to those who had cause to complain, and, on the
other, to put down illegal resistance to the payment of
tithes;—when a me 'sure was in piligres,i, planned and
framed by the Government, and s inctioned by the Parlia-
ment, did it become the Noble Marquis to attack the Go-
vernment at that moment? Again he would ask, when was
it that the Marquis of Anglesea had refused his assist ince
to vindicate the power of the law? Could the Noble
Marquis or his friends show an instance in which the Lord
Lieutenant had refused his assistance? He believed, in-
ded, as all men who well considered the subject must be-
lieve, that coercion and correction must go hand in hand.
And if Government were only fairly dealt with—if they
were not th,varted at every step and embarrassed by the
unnatural coalition between parties who agreed in nothing
except their hatred of the Administration, he had good
hope that the country would be restored to a state of peace
and tranquillity.—(Hear, hear.) He said that he did
hope that notwithstanding the exertions of the Gentleman
who h id s;gind that letter no full Of troths and figures, all
directed against the Government—and, notwithstanding
the exertions of the other party—notwithstanding the ex
ertions of both parties (lie would not call them factions),
who were conseiring together against Government, at
least by their acts, he hoped there wan a fair and honest
feeling on the part of the majority of the inhabitants,
Protestant and Catholic (he ma le no distinction between
them) which would be sufficient to enable them to es-
tablish tranquillity in the ceu..try.
A NeBLF. Loan from the cros,,benclies stated, that
when he said, " That is the truth," he meant to heir
witness to the fict, that there was not, under the exist-
ing system of intimidation in certain parts of Ireland, any
security for life or property. It was not the desire of
the peasantry of the country that these outrages should
continue. He had heard from a tenant of his own, that
lie and his two sons tilt compelled to attend illegal meet-
ings ; and when he remonstrated with him fur this, the
man's observation was, " Will your Lordship undertake
to protect me if I stay away ?" He was obliaed of course
to reply, he could not. The Noble and Learned Lord
had brought down the case of Clare. Did be mean to say
that, in Westmeath, they were to suffer the work of de-
struction to go on there, until it had reached the sane
extent and enormity which it had attained in Clare?
Were they to wait for this before Government deigned to
interfere? He entirely aereed with the Noble Marquis,
that open rebellion would he preferable to the present state
of things.
The Earl of LONGFORD con,urred with his Noble
Friends in the views thee hail t ken of the state of the
country. And as to the Magistrates of the county, all
excepting one or two, igned the Address ; one or two did
riot take out their commissions on account of the fees de-
manded, or something of the sort. He, however, had
(lone ,•u, and he urged all he could influence to do the
same thing, telling them be would never let the business
rest until they got those fees back again.—(Cheers and
laughter.) With respect to the address 1:8,11, he con-
tended they were doing rather a friendly thing to the Ad
ministration by giving them grounds to come forward to
Parliament and ask for additional powers. He supposed
the present sta'e of things wan to be attributed to some
defect of the law. Much as he disliked the Government,
he would not accuse them of a wilful neglect of their
outy. He concluded that the existing law was not suffi -
clently strong to put down crime and disturbance. He
wished to have additional powers granted to the Govern-
rtent puwer6 which, except in extreme cases, they need
not use.

The Earl of WINCHILSEA concurred with the Noble
and Learned Lord in wishing the restoration of tranquil-
lity ; but this he could never hope to see while Govern-
ment directly encouraged agitation, as they had recently
done by the dismiss tl of a magistrate, after he had been
acquitted by a jury, and highly complimented for his con-
duct by the judge. He alluded to the vise of Captain
Graham, and announced his intention of bringing the ques-
tion of th,t gentleman's dismissal belie e their Lordstiips
it it were not taken up by some Noble Lord more capable
of dealing with it than himself.
The Earl of RODEN considered that Ireland was neve'
in so bad a state as at present since 1793. In proof of
this, he read the address, lately published in the newspa-
pers, from the Lord Lieutenant and 21 Magistrates of that
county, and remarked that the Magistrate of Ormond, who
wrote this, was a friend to the Administration, anti
should, consequently, be taken as an impartial judge. He
also read the Marquis of Aoglesea's reply, and observed,
that the remedies to which he alluded never would pro-

Wee the effect he anticipated. Touching the state of the
country, he could, of his own knowledge, say that the
Barony of Iveah, in Down, was for a time under the pos-
session of a couple of thousand of men, armed with
ouskets. He had written, stating this to the Lord Lieu_
enant— he received a civil reply—but nothing was done.
When he (Lord R.) and the persons constituting what was
ealled the conservative party in Ireland, saw the government
riving countenance and encouragement to the agitators,
and going so far even as to offer to Mr. O'Connell an
official situation under the Crown, they felt it necessary ti
unite for the protection of their rights and property. It
was time for them to do so when they applied in vain to
the Goeernment for protection.--(Hear.)
Earl GREY WAS sure that it must be tiresome to the
House to hear the same thing re-asserted and denied over
and over again. But as the Noble Lord who had just sat
down bad repeated now for the hundredth time that the
Government had offered an official situation to Mr.
O'Connell, and in doing so they tendered a bribe to the
leader of the agitators, he (Earl Grey) would repeat his
denial that such was the fact —(Hear, hear.) The:Go-
vernment had not offered a situation to that gentleman ;
hut he would repeat what he had before asserted in the
House when the same charge was brought against the
Government—that if Mr. O'Connell followed a course
more consistent than that in which he had chosen to per-
sist, with the conduct becoming 3 good subject, there was
no legal situation under the Government for which his
talents and knowledge did not fit him,—(Hear, hear.)
For his part, he (Earl Grey) would have been glad if any
forbearance on the part of the Government, or any efforts
towards conciliation, could contribute to the tranquillity
of the country :—( Hear, hear)—and surely no man who
knew Ireland, and the influence which that gentleman
possessed there, would deny the advantage of bring-
ing him (Mr. O'Connell) over to the cruse of good order.
It was complained that the Government had not applied
for new laws and fur mere seal p wers to preserve peace.
To that complaint he would only reply, that he ha-f already
pledged himself to come down to Parliament and apply for
increased powers, should any emergency arise to which the
present laws wee inadequate ; and should any such oc-
casion arise, he would redeem lain pledge.--( Hear.) But
he would apply for no new powers so long as those a ready
given by the laws continued to be sufficient for the preser-
vation of the public tranquillity. Whenever the local
authorities required the assistance of troops, or of an addi-
tional police force, troops were sent, and the police force
was increased ; and if it could he shown that there was a
further necessity for such assistance., the Government was
ready still further to increase the military force, which
(as we understood) he thought most advisable to be em-
ployed in quelling tumults in Ireland.--(Heir, hear.) It
was the object of the Government to act justly and im-
parti ally between the two parties which divided that
country—not to look to the right or to the left; to
regard no distinction of colours, orange or green, but to take
the course which was b, st calculated to win, not a triumph
for party, but a victory for peace and good order. For that
purpose, the ordinary powers given by the law of the land
had hitherto been sufficient. But lie regretted to perceive
that there was a great disposition on the part of the
gentry (and that disposition was not confined to Ireland)
to call for the assistance of the military. It seemed to
him, therefore, that the Lord-Lieutenant had done no
more than was his duty when he recommended the Ma-
gistrates to rely upon their own exertions and influence for
the preservation of the quiet of their respective districts.
At the same time it was not to be supposed that his Ma-
jesty's Ministers were either insensible of the danger of
Ireland, or indifferent to that danger; they would nor,
however, on that account be hurried into violent measures,
but they would endeavour to maintain the security of the
country by enforcing the existing I aws. With respect to
what had been said as to the answer of the Lord -Lieute•
nant to the Magistrates of Westmeath, he (Earl Grey)
must say that he concurred in every word of that answer,
and he could see in it no grounds for censuring the Marquis

of Anglesea.—(Hear, hear.) As the omission o' Captain
Graham's name from the Commission of the Peace would
be made the subject of a motion before the House, he
would, on the present occasion, say no more on that sub-
ject, than that it would be found that there was no reason
to complain of the conduct of the Government towards
that gentleman. He felt called upon to make these obser-
vations in reply to what had fallen from the Noble Lord
opposite; but he did not see any reason for objecting to
the motion of the Noble Marquis.
The Doke of WELLINGTON concurred with the
Noble Earl at the head of the Government in lamenting
that discussions on the affairs of Ireland were usually cha-
racterized by so much warmth. He could assure their
Lordships, however, that, in the few words which he
was about to address to them, nothing should fall from
him calculated to create excitement or hitter feeling. He
should address himself solely to the question, how ought
the pt., sent disturbed and dangerous state of Ireland to be
met? From the documents before the House, and others
which hail been read in the course of the discussion, the
melancholy sate of society in Ireland was quite manifest.
It had been said the counties of Clare, Cork, Kerry, and
Limerick, were now pacified, after the expense of much
property and blood ; but what answer was that to the
many Noble and Hon. persons residing in and connected
with the counties of Tipperary, Westmeath, Kilkenny,
and King's County, who were suffering from the total a'..
settee of that protection which the law ought to afford
them, and who welt, waiting until the Government should
send a sufficient force to put down the alarming sta e of
things to which they were now subject?—(Hear, hear.)
It had been ached what use the Insurrection Act would be
in Ireland to put down the present distuibances, as the
Insurrectien Act did not affect offences committed in the
day time. Ft ow his own experience, when in office in
Ireland, he (the Duke of Wellington) greatly doomed the
efficiency of the Insurrection Act in repressing disturbance;
but he was not astonished to (IA those ho were suffering
from outrages and violations of the law, committed by
persons against whom they could procure no evidence, in
consequence of the system of intimidation which prevailed
—it was not ;astonishing, he said, to find those persons
crying out that there was a conspiracy to raise the whole
country. That such a conspiracy existed he thought
no man could doubt; and no man could wonder that
those who were suffering front that conspiracy should
call upon the Government to introduce the Innrrection
Act, or some law to put it down. There was now a
state of things in Ireland which, to his view, was worse
and mote dangerous than the turbulent spirit manifested
by some portion of the inhabitants of that country. It ap-
peared to him that the Magistrates had no confidence in
the Government, and, on the other hand, the Government
had DO confidence in the Ala,,istrates.—(Loud cries of
hear, hear, from the Oepostion benches.) Now he
suppo-ed that the Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland had good
reason for the sentiments c,nve)ed in his lettrr to the
maetatrates of Westmeath. On the other side, he believed
wriat had been stated, that there were no persons in the
word more anxious to afford their personal assistance in
maintaining the laws than the Magistracy of Ireland. He
begged, however, to observe that the security of the ma-
gistracy and the gentry. ant the preservation of their pro
perty, depended mainly, if not altogether, upon their sup-
porting the Government in inaintaiiiing the peace of the
country. —(General cries of Hear, hear.) Ha said this
without reference to ore Government or another.—(Hear,
hear.) He earnestly rectorial -tided the Magistrates of Ire-
land to set that example whi.li they alone were competent
to set to the rest of the p, °pie, by supporting and assist's g
the Government in euf reing the laws, in order to save
their lives, their properties, and all that was valuable to
them as men.—(Loud cheers.) lie should also take
leave to recommended the Government to conci-
liate the magistracy and the gentry of the country.
de could not help feeling that the gentlemen coo-
mooed with the Magistracy had some cause of compalint.
The Noble Earl at the head of the Government had pro-
p put out of the discussion the question relating to the
omission of Captain Graham's name from the commission
of the peace. He. (the Duke of Wellington), however,
would say thus much in reference to that question. that it
the Government intended that gentlemen in the commis-
sion should give real and off ctive assistance in maintaining
;he peace, they must give those gentlemen their support
and protection. If they acted without corrupt or improper
motives, Magistrates ought no to be punished for trifline
partyoa hisoa Excellencynthe r. (
lIIe a r Lord r d When
Lieutenant mistakes, or because they happened to be (stuns to one
r
:atietnawnats
disapproved of
t 1
ailing out the yeomanry, in one case in which the yere
oianty hat) been c filled mat, two Magistrates, a Mr. Irwin,
aid another, who bat been concerned in calling out the
yeomanry, fe,t that his Excellency's opinion was a reflec-
tion on them, and they resigned the commission ; upon
which his Exoellenry, most properly, as he (the Duke
of Wellington) thought, wrote those gentlemen a ow

V eiliatory fetter, desiring that they ehoald rokaia the ma-
mission. But what was the course pursue/ with re-
spect to Captain Graham ? f&ia sesdnee is sallieg wit
the yeomanry at NewbeallsVri was disapprireed of,
A Parliamentary inquiry iatri seagust w„ refused
because a legal invostigatien wiz perategoil -awl although',
the result of that legal investigatio-a,lia-espt.. Gra. ,
ham was acquitted most honourably, andalthough two
grand juries had declared on their oaths that there wto
no legal charge. against him, his name was witbdrawo •
from the commission of the peace. He (the Duke of
Wellington) remembered C,pt. Graham very well, as he
had performed some exceedingly meritorious services in
Portugal, and he could not hat regret th :t for no other
cause, as it appeared to him, than that Captain Graham
had made a successful resistance against a tumultuous •
mob, he should have been deprived of the commission,
and punished, after having been most honourably acquitted
by the proper legal tribunals.—(Hear, hear.) It was
impossible not to see that a transaction of this kind tea:
ealculated very much to produce that I•eiinLi. in the Ma-
gistracy which would tend to slacken their a,al in swo-
p rting Government to maintain the power of the law..ss.
'Fhei.e was another transaction of a different description,
but which, it appeared, had tended to pro.:uce similar
feelings. A considerable mob had collected at a place
called Thomastown, in the county of Kilkenny. The
mob were called upon by the M,gistrates to disperse,
and, not having complied, the Riot Act was read ; aft..r
which the mob withdrew to a distance, and remained
together above an hour. Forry.one of the persons
thus assembled, all of whom had been guilty of fe-
lony, by not dispersing within an hour after the
reading. of the Riot Act, were apprehended by the Ma-
gistracy, and either committed for trial, or let out upon
bail to appear for trial. His Majesty's Government,
however, acting, he supposed, upon the advice of the Law.
Officers of the Crown, had let off all those persons with—
out any trial. He did not say whether the Law Officers
of the Crown in Ireland were right or wrong in their
advice to the Government ; but he could not help looking
upon the transaction Hs most unfortunate, for he had good
authority for saying that it had the effect of convincing
persons that the Government were not in earnest in put-
ting down those assemblies of the people. Teat this was
the effect which the transaction had on the minds of the
Magistrates and o-bers, was diatiectly sta'ed by a stipen-
diary Magistrate, in his evidence before the Tithe Com-
mittee. Without entering further into details, he would
say that he did not care what the law was, or what the
military force in Ireland was. Until the G-weitanent
had the cordial assistance of the magistratesand the gentry
the peace end tranquillity of Ireland viola net be pre-
served ; and saying this he entreated the nigistraey and
the gentry not to withhold from the Government that as-
sistance.—(Hear, hear.) He repeated—for he could not
too strongly impress his opinion on the subject—that it
was not any new law, or an augmentation of military
force—it was a cordial union between the Mi-
gistrdes and the Government of Leland, whi. h
was most wanted. Whilst touching on this eutiject, lie
would beg to remind the Noble Lords connected with his
Majesty's Government as to what had token place at the
period of the Manchester riots. He weli recollected that
a Noble Friend (not now in his place), Lod Siihnouth,
lot no time in taking his Majesty's pleasure, and wr icing
down to the Magistrates at ManchFst-r, expr, ssing his
Majesty's approbation of the condui t of the Magistrates in
that transaction. He believed tnat nothing could have
been more wise and beneficial than the course so adopted ;
and he could not help thinking that it would be worth
the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland's while to take a lesson
from the conduct pursued by Lord Sidmouth on the (veil.
n ion he bad just referred to.—(Hear, hear, from the Op-
position Benches.) It was most essen.ial to the !;eace of

Ireland that the Government should he reconciled to the
gentlemen of property and intelligence resident in that
coantry.—(Hear, hear.)

Lord PLUNKET felt he wile out of order in attempt-
ing again to addrees the House, hut lie was anxious to &I

the Noble Duke right as to the case of Captain Graham—
(cries of" Spoke," and " Hear, hear.") That gerolrm in
had called out the yeomanry at Newtownbarry, which—
whether it was right or wrong—had led to an affray in
which twenty-two lives were lo.t.—(Cries of " Spoke.")
The Marquis Of LONDONDERRY rose to order. The
Noble and Learned Lord (13;unki-tt) bad already made a
long speech on the question, and was now entering into
the case of Captain Grshain, on which a separate notice
had been given. As he (Lo:ti Londonderry) had suff-red
so severely on a former occision—(Herr, hear) fur a
breach of order, he thought it right now to ask whether
the Noble and Learned Lord was eat oat of order ?—.
(Hear, hear, and laughter).

Earl GREY certainly dill not think the present the
most convenient tim. for discussing the eto.e of Captain
Graham. As the Noide Duke (Wellington) and the
Noble Esrl had alluded to it, however, he thought his
Noble and Learned Friend might have then permitted to
explain the facts of the case.
Lord HOLLAND rose to order, amidst cries for Lord
Plunket. He observed that the Nobt- !llarqui• (London-
det ry) who fir•t ro•e to order, was cut of order ; and he
contended that his No. le and Lesrued Friend (Lord
Plunket) was not out of order.

The Marquis of LONDONDERRY thought that Noble
Lords opposite had one construction of the word " ordt.r"
for themselves, and another for his (Lord Londonderry's)
side of the House.—(A laugh.) If the Noble and Li-arued
Lord, however, wanted to m ike an otplar,ation with tt
view to his deparute for Ireland to discharge his judicial
functions. he (Lord L.) would he the hit man to throw
any
Gl'AisLw addressed.—
the House from the cross-
benches, and, standing with his back to the gall. ry, was
indistinctly heard. After adverting to the case of a
Clergymen who was murdered within a few yards of his
own house in the daytime, and to other atrocities which
had recently occurred in Irelan.l, he stated that, though
he had known Ireland lung, and in the worst time:, he
hail never krriwo it in so dreadful a rate of .namhy m it
now was. For his own psi t, tie b.lieve..l it would al-
ways be tints until the revolutionary associations which
existed in Ireland were put down. There was now a re-
volutionary Parliament assembled in Dublin, and, though
the reduction of rents, tithes, and taxes, were the objects
held out, revolution was the real object .if the democrats.
Vi-count MELBOURNE agreed with the Noble Duke

(Wellington) that it was the interest, as well as the duty,
of the Magistrates of Ireland to afford every assistance to
the Government, and enable it to preserve the peace of the
country. With respect to the transaction at Toomastown,
alluded to by the Noble Duke, the persons there appre-
hended were liberated because it was the opinion of Mr
Blackburn, the (Irish Attorney-General)—thau whose
there could not be a wiser or better optniun•...tbat the
mob of which they formed a part had not riotously and
tumultuously assembled, and, therefore, that those per-
sons had not committed a felony by keeping together after
the reading of the Riot Act, He could assure the Noble
Duke and their Lordships that there was every disposition
on the p trt of his Majesty's Government to stand firmly
by the Magistrates, and support them in the execution of
their duty. _ . .

The Duke of WELLINGTON ex/Alined. He had
not said whether the opinion of ihe Attorney-General, in
the edge of the Thom istown rioters, was right or wrong.
fie had only stated that the transaction was unfortunate
from the sensation it erea:ed.

The Earl of WICKLOW expressed his deep regret that
the Lord Chancellor of Ireland had be-n prevented from
entering into an explanation of the circuinteare.s attending
the removal of Captain Graham from the commission
the peace. Af.er defending the conduct of Capt. Gcahatn,
the Noble Earl said when the question was brought for..
ward, he thought he should he ahle to prove that Captaio
Gr ,harn, in calling out the yeomanry, had acted under the
dileetion of Government.

The Marquis of WESTMEATH enntendt•il, in reply,
that the m igistrates of the county of We,ttneath had no
power to put down the riots v. hich prevailed in that
county, and that the letter of Lis Exce lency the. Lord
Lieutenant was not an anAwer to the representation of the
Magistrates.
The pavers moved fur were then ordered ; and their
Lordships adjourned at a Quarter In•fore Nine o'clock.