The Sun.
London, England, 1835-04-20 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, MONDAY, APRIL 20, 1835.

SUPPLEMENT-TO THE LONDON
GAZETTE OF FRIDAY, APRIL 17.

At the Court at St. James's, the 18th day of April, 1833,

PRESENT,
The King's Most Excellent Majesty in Council.

This day the Right Hon. Henry Grey (commonly called
Viscount Howick) was, by his Majesty's command, sworn of
his Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council; and took hi,
place at the Board accordingly.

At the Court at St. James's, the 18th day of April, 1835,
PRESENT,
The King's Most Excellent Majesty in Council.

His Majesty in Council was this day pleased to declare the
Right Honourable- Henry Marquess of Lansdowne Lord Pre-
sident of his Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council, and
his Lordship took his place at the Board accordingly.
His Majesty having been pleased to appoint the Right Ho-
nourable Henry John Viscount Palmerston ; the Right Ho
nourable John Russell (commonly called Lord John Russell);
and the Right Honourable Charles Grant ; to be three of his
Majesty's principal Secretaries of State, they were this day,
by His Majesty's command, sworn three of His Majesty's
principal Secretaries of State accordingly.
His Majesty in Council was this day pleased to appoint the
Right Honourable Charles Poulett Thomson President of the
Committee of Council appointed for the consideration of all
matters relating to Trade and Foreign Plantations.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS, APRIL 18.

The Earl of SHAFTESBURY took his seat on the Woolsack,
in the absence of the Lord Chancellor, at twenty minutes to
five o'clock.

Lord BROUGHAM moved the judgment of the House

in the Scotch Appeal case of Sharpe versus Sharpe, !n
which his Lordship recommended the House to reverse the
decision of the Court below.

The Duke of Wellington entered the House about five, and
took his seat by the Lord Chancellor, on the Woolsack, with
whom he was for some time in close conversation. Shortly
afterwards the Marquis of Lansdowne and Lord Mulgrave

entered, and took their seats on the Ministerial Benches.
The Earl of Aberdeen, the Duke of Buckingham, and
the Marquis of Londonderry, sat on the Opposition

benches. On the Ministerial side we noticed the Duke

of Norfolk, the Earl of Albemarle, and Lord Charleville.
—Lord Melbourne entered the house at ten minutes past
5 o'clock. The Opposition side of the House was crowded,
but very few Peers occupied the Ministerial benches.

The Duke of GORDON presented petitions from parishes
in Fife and Roxburgh, for protection to the Church of Scotland.
The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition from the
Bishop of Chichester, praying for a private Bill.
Lord BROUGHAM, who, after he had delivered his judg-

ment in the case of Sharpe v. Sharpe, immediately walked
over to the Ministerial side of the House, in his way bowing to
the Duke of Richmond, and the Earl of Ripon, as inviting those

Noble Lords who were sitting on the cross benches to accom
pany him, presented a petition from the Ministers and Elders
of the Synod of Johnstone, in Paisley, praying their Lord
ships to resist any additional imposition for the support of the
Church of Scotland.

question like that in ordinary times might very well have
been left without an answer—but these were not ordinary
times.-4 Hear. ) The same Ministry when in power only a
few months ago had the most determiued opposition of that
Learned Gentleman, and they (the Ministry) denounced the
Learned Gentleman in the King's speech in every thing but by
name, therefore he now wished to know in what way and on what
terms they stood with the Hon. and Learned Gentleman. It
was impossible to suppose Mr. O'Connell would have withdrawn
his opposition to that Administration, unless he was to
be pacified in some way. ( Hear, hear.) The cause
he asked the reason so early was, that that Learned Gen-
tleman only a few months ago, and for many months
before, had lost no opportunity of stating his opinions with re-
gard to the Repeal of the Union, and the necessity of the
destruction of that House. The Noble Lord then referred to
Mr. O'Connell's letters to Lord Duncannon, and some of his
speeches to the Anti-Tory Association.. He said that such
language was not to be considered as mere words of
course when coming from such a quarter—coming as they did
from the powerful, Honourable, and Learned Gentleman ; they
were pregnant with meaning, and he considered that the
Noble Viscount under all the circumstances, was bound to
afford the House all the information in his power.
Lord BROUGHAM-1 wish to know if there was ever—

Lord ALVANLEY—I merely put a question to the Noble
Lord (Melbourne).
Lord BROUGHAM—And that is the very reason I an-
swer it.—(Cheers, and cries of " Order.")
Lord KENYON rose to order. The question had not been
put to the Noble and Learned Lord. Did the Noble and
Learned Lord rise to order ?

Lord BROUGHAM—Most undoubtedly. According to

the strictest forms of the House, I am right in speaking to
order. How does the Noble Lord know that I did not mean

to ground a motion upon the course taken by the Noble Lord
(Alvanley) ? I interrupted that Noble Lord to call him to
order; but when I got up, I understood the Noble Lord to say
that he had done. Then I did not call him to order, but I
craved permission of my Noble Friend (Melbourne) to allow me
to advise him not to give an answer to the question of the
Noble Lord, which for irregularity is utterly unprece-
dented in this House.—( Hear, hear.) The measures of
the Government will show what course my Noble Friend has
taken. Did any one ever hear of a Minister being called
upon to tell whom the King meant to appoint to office, or
what arrangements were in progress with a certain individual,
and whether that individual had been gained over to the Go-
vernment ? I advise my Noble and Learned Friend not to
sanction such questions by giving them an answer.

Lord WICKLOW insisted that his Noble Friend (Lord
Alvanley) was perfectly justified in putting this question, and
the Noble and Learned Lord's (Brougham's) rising to order
in this unprecedented manner was a most disorderly proceeding.
Viscount MELBOURNE—Perhaps the Noble Lord was
not greatly out of order in putting this question, but, at the
same time, I think that the Noble Lord might have
put the question in plainer terms, and not accompanied
his question with a greater number of observations than
is usual. The Noble Lord asks me how far I coin-
cide in opinion with Mr. O'Connell ? I do not at all coin-
cide vi ith him in opinion—.(Loud cheers.) It is im-
possible for any question to receive a simpler answer. The
Noble Lord also asks me whether I entertain the same epinions
which I did on a former occasion, which I apprehend
to be when the Coercion Act was under consideration ?
I answer him that I certainly do entertain the same opinions,
and that I persevere in them.---( Hear, hear, and Cheers.)
The Noble Lord also asks me whether I have taken
any means to secure the assistance of Mr. O'Connell, and
upon what terms ? I do not know whether I have the
assistance of Mr. O'Connell or not, but I say most dis-
tinctly that I have taken no means to secure it—(loud
cheers)—and I most particularly state, that I have entered
into no terms whatever, or have said any thing, from which
any inference can be drawn, in order to secure that individual's
support. To the Noble Lord's question, therefore, I give a
most decided negative ; and if he has been told any thing to
the contrary, he has been told what is false, and without foun-
dation.—( Loud :cheers.) •
The Duke of BUCKINGHAM trusted that the House
and the people would be disabused of the impression that was
abroad relative to the imputation that had been cast upon the
present Government, of desiring to conciliate Mr. O'Connell.
The Noble Viscount had distinctly stated that the same
principles would be acted upon as he pursued before, when the

Church question was under consideration, and that he was still
determined to promote the interests and extend the usefulness
of piety and true religion. Every one knew the cause which
compelled his Majesty's late Government to resign—
namely, the principle of appropriating Church property to
secular purposes. He (the Duke of Buckingham) begged,
therefore, to ask the Noble Viscount (Melbourne) distinctly
and emphatically, whether he was prepared to bring forward
a measure for relief from the grievances of the Irish Tithe
System, and appropriating the surplus revenue to other than
religious purposes.

Lord MELBOURNE—It is premature to go into this
discussion at prese.lt, for if we enter once upon it, we must
take it up as a whole measure, and so consider it. This
would be a most inconvenient course now to pursue; but
I have no hesitation in declaring to the Noble Duke that
I hold myself bound, and pledge myself to act upon the princi-
ple of the resolution adopted by the House of Commons. (The.
Noble Lord made this statement with peculiar emphasis,
which created a great sensation in the House, and was received
with loud cheers.)
The Marquis of I. 0 ND ONDERRY felt himself bound at the
present crisis, charged as he was with a petition signed by
60,000 Protestants of the north of Ireland, to make a few
observations on the present occasion, and he felt this duty
more incumbent upon him, when he saw who was
placed at the head of His Majesty's Government, and
considered the opinions and sentiments that had been an-
nounced as to their intentions respecting the appropriation
of Church property. Under the circumstances, however, he
begged to give notice, that on the Thursday after
the recess, he would with the permission of the
House, present this important Petition to their Lordships.
If he was to go further, and follow the example of the
Noble Marquis opposite in commenting upon the compe-
tency of a Ministry, he might ask whether those who had
obtained and held office only upon the forbearance of the Con-
servatives, or by the delusive promises held out to Mr.
O'Connell, were competent to carry on the Government.
He was glad to hear from the Noble Viscount that he had
given a veto to O'Connell and his radical crew.—(A laugh.)

Viscount MELBOURNE said that he had never used the
word veto, what he said was, that he had taken no means to
secure the assistance of Mr. O'Connell, nor hail he entered
into any terms with him.—(lncreased cheering.) This he
would positively say, he had never used the word veto, or ex-
clusion, and indeed should have been sorry to have emploicd
them.

The Marquis of LONDONDERY explained. He was
sure that any Ministerial connection with Mr. O'Connell, or
his tail, would be the curse of the country.

ADJOURNMENT OF THE' HOUSE.
Lord MELBOURNE observed, with respect to the ad-
journment of the House he had no objection to the adop-
tion of the course• which was proposed by the Noble Duke
on the cross benches (Richmond), provided it was understood
that no public business was to be taken before the 12th of May.
The House then adjourned, as we understood, to April 30.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, APRIL 18.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at half-past three o'clock.

CORK ELECTION.

Sir JOHN BYNG the Chairman of the Cork Election
Committee, brought up the report of the Committee, finding
that the sitting Members, Colonel Chatterton and Joseph
Leycester, Esq., had not been duly elected, and that
Dr. Baldwin and Daniel Callaghan, Esq., had been ...duly
elected, and ought to have been returned, but that neither the
petition nor the opposition to it had been frivolous or vexatious.
The Clerk of the Crown attended to amend the return,
upon which being done, D. Callaghan took the oaths and his
seat for the city of Cork.