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which reflected any discredit on Mr. Newton. He en:

treated the Jury to forget these things, and to forget also
who it was that instituted these proceedings. The ve►y
respectable gentlemen who were this young lady's trustees
had indignantly denied a participation in them, and had even
prevented their attorney from interfering. It was the mother,
a woman in distress and difficulty, borrowing money here,
raising it by annuity ther&—a person whom her father
thought fit to pass over in his will (except leaving her
10,000/.), and left the bulk of his property to her daughter.
Stle had nothing to keep her in the state of affluence to
which she had been accustomed but the fortune of her
daughter. That she was actuated by such a motive was
proved by her expression, " if he has my daughter, he
shall not have her money." The Learned Counsel said he
adverted to those topics only to implore the Jury to dis
mi4s them from their minds, and to consider the real quts-
tio❑ at issue, which was, whether Miss Bagster was
or was not a lunatic, with lucid intervals, or,
as the learned Commissioner said the Jury might find her
of unsound mind, and incapable of managing her affairs.
The Learned Counsel then took a review of the various
grades of lunacy, unsoundness of mind, and idiotcy, as laid
down in various published cases, and contended very
eloquently that the present case was not, and -could
not, be viewed, either as one of lunacy, unsoundness
of mind, or idiotcy. The validity of the marriage
was not a question in issue—that was for another
Court, and from what he knew of the Learned Judge of
that Court, any attempt to set the marriage aside upon
such evidence, would utterly fail. Regarding the ignorance
of Miss Bagster as to the value of money, and arithmetic,
it was easily accounted for. Her grandfather had shown
an over-fondness for her, and, finding it difficult to teach
her, desired she should not be pressed too much ; but be-
cause she could not easily learn, it did not follow she was
unsound.
The Learned Counsel at very considerable length, and
in a speech of gnat eloquence, which we regret the im-
possibility, from want of room, of giving even an outline of,
commented upon the evidence, contending generally that
there was no proof of unsoundness of mind; it was only
a defect of education, which perhaps could be re-
medied by:a proper and unremitting attention towards her.
He then called the attention of the Jury to the evidence of
Drs. Haslam and ;Morrison, which he said was decisive
that the young lady was neither an idiot nor of unsound,
mind, These gentlemen had taken time to consider of the
case, and bad not made up their minds upon mere ten Ink
nutes' visits. The Learned Counsel concluded a speech,
which has seldom been surpassed for eloquence or argu-
ment, at a few minutes after one o'clock, when
The CHIEF' COMMISSIONER proceeded to charge the
Jury, but the evidence being so voluminous, it will doubt-
l..ss take him the whole day,

Two persons residing in the Broadway, West-
minster, are reported to have died this morning of the
cholera morbus.

A " considerable sensation" has been pro-
duced at the West-end of the town, by the death of
SNIITH, the celebrated cook of ARTHUR'S club-house, who
was, from his abilities in business, in constant requisition
at large parties of the nobility.

SHEERNESS.--The cholera is increasing very
much. Since Thursday a great number have been at-
tacked, out of whom eight or ten died. It is chiefly
confined to persons in poor circumstances and of irregular
I abits. A house has been fitted up as an hospital.—
Kent Herald.

SIMPLE PREVENTION AGAINST CHOLERA.
—An infusion of ginger—say a teaspoonful of grated
ginger in a half-pint of boiling water, let it stand a few
minutes, to deposit the sediment, pour the liquid off into
a cup or glass, and sweeten it to the p dote; it has been
found highly beneficial in numerous instances, mud is
specific in all cases of weakness of the stomach.

SPIRIT•OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS,

The adjourned debate on the Irish Tithe Bill
was resumed last night. Before, however, en-
tering on the, discussion, something was said
about the valuers of crops, which may enable us
to form a guess with regard to the consequences
of the measure in Ireland. Colonel Perceval
asked " whether the Bill now before the House
afforded any security to the persons employed to
value crops. If it did not, he wished to know
whether it was the Right Hon. Gentleman's in-
tention to bring in any measure for that pur-
pose ?" Mr. Stanley said " that the question
now put was undoubtedly one of considerable
importance, and would deserve the consideration
of the House. He believed that there was no
provision in the present Bill for the security of
the valuers of crops. He trusted there would
he no necessity for such a provision ; but if there
should be, the House must undoubtedly take the
matter into consideration, and provide whatever
security the circumstances of the case might seem
to require." Mr. Callaghan observed " that there
were no means of protecting the valuers of
tithes, and he did not think that any per-
sons would be found to undertake that task."
This augurs very ill for the restoration of order.
Ministers are unquestionably placed in a situation
of great difficulty with regard to Ireland. They
are called to execute the laws, and the people
being arrayed against the laws, to execute them
is to throw the country into disorder. The laws
have not been made in the interest of the people,
and the people have never yielded a willing obe-
dience to them. They have been taught, too,
that their only hope of obtaining a repeal of bad
laws is in defeating them ; and it is unnecessary
to add, that the most dangerous lesson you can
teach a people is, that relief is only to be ob-
tained by resistance. The habit of resistance is
much easier taken up than abandoned. Even
the best-intentioned Ministry cannot make the
laws what they ought to be in a brief space of
time ; and, lest the habit of resistance become
rooted in the social system, they must be desirous
to enforce the laws, however bad, so long as
they are not repealed. The Irish people, on
the other hand, have proceeded so far in their
combinations against tithes, that it is no longer
possible to execute the law as it is. There is,
therefore, in what regards tithes, a complete
anarchy. It is not in the power of Ministers to
execute the law, without doing violence to the
principle which ought to be at the bottom of all
law—the salus populi. The question is—how the
Government can be extricated from this perilous
position, with least injury to the common weal
"As the opposition to the law regarding tithes is the
destruction of the tax ; and, as the destination
is deemed objectionable by Ministers as well as
the Irish people, we wish Ministers had com-
menced with the consideration of the most ad-
visable destination with a view to remove the
chief cause of the opposition of the people.
Ministers have, however, taken the most logical
mode, if we may use the term. They wish first
to ascertain the extent of the disposable fund,
and then they mean to attend to the disposal
of iF. This was neatly put by Lord John Rus-
sell, who observed, " the first question, as to
whether tithes could continue in their present
shape, he understood to be by common consent
abandoned on all sides. This being disposed of,
two other questions then presented themselves :
the first, whether any other income could be sub-
stituted for the present ; and the second, to what
purpose the money so obtained could be ap-
plied ?"—Lord John added, that; " as to the
first of these questions, he must say, that it
seemed to him that the Representatives of Ire-
land gave an importance to it which it did not
truly possess ; and that the real difficulty lay in
the second of these questions." The Irish IVlem-
hers, however, know how incredulous the people
are as to the intentions to alter the disposition
of the Tithes, and their opposition to Ministers
is, we doubt not, attributable not so much to
their own apprehensions as to their knowledge
of the apprehensions entertained by the Irish
people. Lord John did not hesitate to declare,
that—
" Ile thought that the Protestant Church of Ireland
was too large—(Cheers)—not only for the purpose of
giving instruction to that part of the population of Ireland
which professed the Protestant faith ; but he thought it
too large for its own permanent stability.—(Great cheer-
ing.) Therefore, whenever the question might arise in
its proper day, and at its appointed time—(Cheers)—he
should be ready to maintain the views which he had for-
merly expressed.—(Cheers.) It was certainly the opinion
which he had always held, that it was the duty of the Le-
gisliture to provide for the religious and moral instruction
of the people of Ireland, in a way in which that had never
yet been done.—(Hear, hear.) What was intended by
our ancestors in the establishment of the Church of Ireland
for religious and moral purposes, had not answered that
end—(Cheers)—and as the Legislature bad now to con-
sider anew in what way that end might be best attained,
it was bound to respect—as, he believed, every Member of
that House was ready to respect—the rights of those who
had existing interests in the present arrangements.—
(Hear, hear.)—Preserving to the Church those rights of
property, which it justly claimed, the Legislature might
provide for its future welfare; at the same time that it
would deliver the people of Ireland from the state of igno-
rance, in which they were proved to be by the daily ac-
counts received from the newspapers; or from other sources
of information."
Now this is a most important declaration
hi orn a Cabinet Minister; and the Irish must be
blind indeed, not to see an immense difference
between the spirit of a Cabinet of which so
liberal a speaker is a Member, and a Tory Ca-
binet. Here we have an explicit admission that
tithes are public property, in the disposal of
which the Legislature ought to be governed
solely by considerations of public advantage. The
old doctrine, that the established Church of Ire-
land ought, merely because it is established, to
possess this public property for ever, whether
the public advantage would be thereby promoted
or not, is fairly discarded. Difference of opinion
may be entertained with regard to the most bene-
ficial mode of appropriating the funds not
exclusively allocated to the clergy of the
Protestant Church ; but there is no difference
now as to principle. The Protestant Church
of Ireland has indeed been a signal failure, and
the means taken to support it ought to be an
eternal lesson to men that no institutions can
endure which are not founded on the attach-
ment of the people. In the church of Ireland,
the people were the only party left out of consi-
deration. All that was thought of was property
So much was this the case, that Archbishop
Boulter seemed to be jealous, if we may judge
from his letters, lest the conversion of the
Papists should create too many claimants to
share with the Protestants the loaves and fishes
of the establishment. All churches founded on
such a basis ought to perish—they are not
ehurches of Christ but of Anti-Christ. And the
Protestant Church of Ireland will leave no re•
grets behind it. It is curious to hear the notions
of some people with regard to what a clergy
ought to possess. 'Mr. Lefroy said—
" He was prepared to show that the Protestant clergy
were not too numerous in proportion to the Protestant
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