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could make the people more contented under it, knowing
that they were fully and fairly represented. Although it
was true, as the Right Hon. Baronet had said, that Mr.
Canning resigned Liverpool when he became a Minister,
he was succeeded by his friend Mr. Huskisson, who
filed no less an office than that of the President of
the Board of Trade. So much for the danger that
public men would be warped by the wishes and opi-
nions of their constituents. He reminded the Right
Honourable Baronet, who had referred to Mr. Fox, that
the House was now legislating, not for 1784, but for
1832. The Right Hon. Baronet bad admitted that the
hopes of the people of England had been greatly excited
upon this subject ; but he had contended that Ministers
might have proposed a more moderate, but a sufficient Re-
form. Why, then, did not the Right Hort. Baronet point
out how far the present Bill exceeded his own measure of
Reform ? The Right Hon. Baronet had argued that Mi-
nisters should have waited until the popular excitement
had passed away—Rusticus expectat, &c.—and if the
present Cabinet had adopted this course, what cries would
nut have been raised of broken faith and of excitement, pro-
duced only for the sake of gaining office, while the wishes
of the people were totally neglected, and their hopes eruelly
disappointed.—(Cheers.) All the opponents of the Bill
(the Members for Oxford only excepted) were for Reform
—for moderate Reform; but none of them could agree on
the degree of concession, beyond the point that not one
borough should have been found in schedule A. The
Opposition during the whole contest consisted of the re-
presentatives of rotten boroughs, who were fighting—not
for opinions, but life itself. The Right Hon. Baronet
had frankly admitted that he had no plan of Reform
to offer ; and did he suppose that if this Bill were lost,
another Government could be formed upon the principle
of granting no Reform ? When he talked of the danger
of the Bill, did he think nothing of the danger of reject-
ing it? Did he think nothing of the excitement of keep-
ing the measure pending, and paralysing trade and indus-
for another year?—(Cheers.) Much had been said of the
licentiousness of the Press ; but was that licentiousness
all on one side ? And according to the doctrine of the
Hon. Member for St. Mawe's, a strong Government might
despise it without driving the Attorney-General into a cru-
sade against the Press. He contended that the state of
the Funds showed the condition of the public mind on the
Reform Bill ; they rose and fell as appearances were in fa-
vour of it or against it, and when the Duke of Wellington
made his celebrated declaration, the Three per Cents. were
at 75, while at this moment they were nearly 83.
( Cheers, and no.) The Right Hon. Gentleman then en-
tered into some details to show that the middle classes were
interested in maintaining public credit, inasmuch as they
were the chief proprietors of the National Debt, and read
an extract from the speech of Sir R. Peel, on the Roman
Catholic Relief Bill, applying the reasoning to the pre-
sent state of the country as regarded the Refoatu Bill. He
(Mr. Stanley) adopted every word of that reasoning, and
only regretted that the Right Hon. Baronet on the present
occasion repudiated his own arguments. The House was
now taking leave of the Reform Bill, he hoped, to hear of
it no more, and that it would receive the assent of the
other House. After quoting the authority of Hume, re-
lating to the proceedings in 1688, on the Resolutions of
the two Houses of Parliament, when the Peers gradually
gave way to the Commons, the Right Hon. Gentleman
concluded as follows :—We have now reached the latest
stage of this Bill, and in taking leave of it I must say,
that it is charged with the welfare and destiny of the na
tion. I call upon all who hear me to join with us in
bringing to a successful issue a measure, perhaps one of
the most arduous, perhaps one of the most important,
perhaps one of the most perilous that was ever agitated.--
(Cheers from the Opposition benches.) Yet, perilous
though it may be to pass it, there may be greater danger
in rejecting it.—(Cheers from all sides.) " Out of this
nettle, danger, we pluck this flower, safety ; " and the
flower can only he plucked by grasping the nettle boldly.
I earnestly hope that the other branch of the Legislature
will join with this House in adopting a measure on which
depend the future tranquillity and happiness of this realm,
the maintenance of the prerogative of the Crown, and the
independence, security, and liberties of the country.—
(Continued cheers from all sides.)
Mr. HUNT rose and obtained a hearing with great
difficulty, but he said that he was determined to give the
Bill one embrace before it left the House. He then con-
tended, as on a former occasion, that it would afford no
relief to the working classes, and read an extract from the
Times of January 6, 1832, in order to show how cheaply
the business of Government was transacted in America
compared with this country. He concluded by declaring
that he meant to vote for the Bill, as nothing better could
be obtained.

Col. SIBTHORPE termed the Right Hon. Secretary
for Ireland the Magnus Apollo of the Ministerial side of
the House, who was put up on every Occasion to stand the
brunt of debate, and stated that he should persevere in his
votes against the Bill. Not being able to obtain a patient
bearing, the Hon. Member moved that the farther debate be
adjourned until to-morrow (this day.)
Mr. HUNT (we believe) seconded the motion of ad-
journment ; but we understood that it was subsequently
withdrawn, and the cries of " Question" becoming univer-
sal, the House proceeded to divide on the original question.
The numbers were these :

For the third reading '155
For Lord Mahon's Amendment 239
Majority for the third reading -116
The Reform Bill was accordingly read a third time.
On our re-admission to the gallery we feund the Howe
in great confusion, and—
Lord ALTHORP on his legs, stating, that previous to
the passing of the Bill, it would be necessary for him to
submit some amendments. This he should hope to do
to-morrow, unless the debate on the Sugar Duties should
occupy too much time. In case of disappointment, he
hoped the House would not object to sit on Saturday.
The House then adjourned at aQuarter past Five o'clock.

HOUSE OF LORDS, Maßcir 22.

The Duke of WELLINGTON' presented a petition
from Wellington, against the new system of education in
Ireland.

Lord LORTON presented several petitions to the same
effect.

On the motion of Lord AUCKLAND, the Irish To-
bacco Bill was read a third time.
Lord BEXLEY presented a petition from Reading and
Maidenhead, against the system of education in Ireland.
Lord AUCKLAND moved that the House go into
Committee on the Irish C.ial
Lord ELLENBOROUGH could nut consent that the
Bill should go any further, unless he had a personal as-
surance from the Noble Lord that compensation should
be granted to the coal-meters of Dublin.
Lord AUCKLAND assured the Noble Lord that the
claims of the coal-meters of Dublin would be considered
not only fairly, but indulgently.
The Bill then went through a Committee, and was re-
ported without amendments.

The Earl of RODEN presented petitions from Ware-
ham, Bandon, Monaghan, and several other places, against
the new system of education.
Lord ELLENBOROUGEI moved fur returns of the
number of vessels employed by Spain, Portugal, and the
Brazils, for the Suppression of the Slave Trade.
On the motion of the Marquis of LANSDOWNE, returns
of the population of several counties were ordered.

The NOBLE MARQUIS also presented a petition from
two parishes in Queen's county, for the abolition of the
tithe system in Ireland.—Ordered to be referred to the
Committee.