The Sun.
London, England, 1835-05-28 00:00:00

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hear him.

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Mr. Rtisbt.t said he had been misrepresenten
had said relative to thefe something being rotten in the stay.
of Denmark, was in allusion to the executive Government,
and not to that meeting.—( Cries of " No, no," from all
quarters of the room.)
Captain BURGOYNE came there with all the feelings of a
loyal subject, and was greatly surprised at what Mr. Rundle
had just said. He begged to state that the Chairman was per-
fectly right in his statement of what Mr. Rundle had said.
The CHAIRMAN—Mr. Rundle had no right here to cast re-
flections on those who got up the meeting. If he continued
to do so he (the Chairman) would not hear him.
Mr. RUNDLE would not be put down though the meeting was
uproarious and riotous.—( Cries of " that's what you want,"
" you want a riot.") I will be heard—l have been misrepre-
sented, and my explanation ought to be heard. Did I say any
one had used undue influence 7—( Groans and hisses.) This is
what lam going to say. Why will you (addressing himself to
the Chairman) attempt, by an appeal to the passions of the
meeting, to put me down ?
The CHAIRMAN'—I have been called on again by Mr. Bun-
dle's assertions ; he has just stated that I have attempted to put
him down by appealing to your passions—this I deny.
Mr. RUNDLE asked whether there may not be persons either
there or absent who had heard from those who were attempting
to carry on the Government, of some difficulties having oc-
curred, or being about to occur, and that therefore the present
meeting had been called ?
Major CAMPBELL called on Mr. Rondle to retract the un-
warrantable expressions he had used towards.,the Chairman be-
fore he proceeded further.
Mr. RUNDLE—If I have offended the Chairman I am willing
to make reparation ; but I will not be put down—l have a
counter address to move.
The CHAIRMAN said he was ready to hear him, if he con-
fined himself to the object of the meeting ; he would not,
however, allow personalities.
Mr. RUNDLE-1 will now, by your leave (for I suppose
must ask it), read my counter Address, and I hope your good
sense will cordially coincide with it. Mr. Rundle then read
the counter Address amidst the groans and hisses of the meet-
ing. It was as follows:
" We, the undersigned, beg to approach your Majesty with feel-
ings of the deepest gratitude for the many gracious acts of your
Royal bounty conferred on us, a loyal and faithful people, and to
assure your Majesty of our unalterable attachment to our glorious
Constitution of King, Lords, and Commons, as by law established.
We deprecate any attack on your Royal prerogative, however co-
vertly or speciously such attack be made, and humbly implore your
Majesty to resist strenuously the attempt made by a selfish faction
to thrust upon your Majesty such advisers as are not the objects of
your Majesty's choice. We further implore your Majesty to re-
serve to your Royal person the right exercised by the meanest of
your Majesty's subjects, viz., the right of employing in the manage-
ment of their affairs such servants as are approved ; and that your
Majesty will, in the exercise of your just prerogative, call to your
Councils such persons as will introduce measures best calculated to
insure the satisfaction of a grateful and loyal people, is our sincere
belief and firm conviction, who are your Majesty's faithful servants
and loyal subjects, and who, as in duty bound, will ever pray for
your Majesty's prosperity.
" Dated —."
After Mr. RUNDLE had read the foregoing counter address,
the Chairman enquired whether Any person present seconded
it. After some time,
at in the absence
Mr. ROWE, of Devonport, rose and said ;„i.'
of any one else to do so, he would second it, which he did
among the groans and hisses of the meeting.
Mr. AXFORD, of Devonport, should have thought it qt.nLe
enough for a young man (referring to Mr. Rundle), who pays
' his taxes in a peculiar manner, would have confined himself to
insulting the meeting ; but he had insulted his Majesty by pro-
posing an address, the inference from which was that his Ma-
jesty had not been allowed to appoint his own servants. Mr.
Rundle had said that the Reform Bill was insufficient, and
that there were seven Russells in London that were faggots ;
but he had forgotten to speak of the Lord at the head, and
the Clergyman at the tail, of bands of voters who came to
poll at the recent election for South Devon. Mr. Rundle
had made some cutting remarks, and said that he was a loyal
man—this implies that there are some here not so—this must
be received with a bad grace here, where persons are assembled
who had spilt their blood in defence of their country. Mr.
A., after making a few more observations, concluded by stating
the counter-address proposed by Mr. Rundle to contain, in his
opinion, a foul implication as regarded the choice by his Ma-
jesty of his Cabinet Ministers.

The
T amended Address was then put by the CHAIRMAN, and
on a show of hands being demanded, only six were held up in
favour of it.

(We have since learnt that these six persons were Mr.
Rundle, who is a spirit merchant at Devonport, and brother-
in-law to the gentleman who was solicitor to Mr. Dawson at
the last Devonport 'election ; Mr. Rowe, a druggist of Devon-
port, the chairman and solicitor at Mr. Dawson's election, a
clerk in the dockyard, and a cabinet-maker.)
On the Chairman requesting a show of hands from those
opposed to the amended address, all present but the six re-
fered to held up their hands against it.
The CHAIRMAN then put the original address, when all pre-
sent, excepting only the six who voted for the amended ad-
dress, held up their hands in favour of it.
The CHAIRMAN then required those who were opposed to
it, to hold up their hands when five only did so.
The CHAIRMAN then declared the original address carried,
(amidst five dissentients only) amidst shouts of applause.
Mr. R. CONDY rose to propose an address to Lord
John Russell, and spoke to the following effect. It is
with great pleasure I rise, becatise I am convinced my
path will be smooth, the Tories having just had a com-
plete dose. I have the honour to propose an Address to
a most illustrious character, whose name will go down to pos-
terity with honour to himself and to his country. Mr. Condy
then referred to Lord John Russell's plan for the reformation
of the abuses in the Irish Church, observing the Tories bad
become alarmed in consequence of it, lest eventually it should
be the cause of the abuses in the English Church being re-
formed. Referring to Mr. Rundle, he said—The whole of
their intellect had been set at nought by one, who, had he had
experience in life, would not have attempted to do so. I
know his heart is good, but out of tune ; he may be loyal,
but I will not yield to him in loyalty. Referring to the recent
election for South Devon, he (Mr. Condy) said that every
advantage had been taken of the ignorance of the country
voters by the black gowns, and country squires. He next al-
luded to Tory misgovernment in past years, and the conse-
quent increase of the national debt. Again, speaking of the
recent election, he mentioned the circumstance of twenty-
seven out of thirty-four voters, registered at Devonport, hav-
ing recorded their suffrages in favour of Lord John Russell.
His Lordship's recent defeat must bring about the Ballot, the
necessity for which had now been clearly shown. I will now
conclude, that the Chairman may read to you the Address—
it is a beautiful dose for the Tories.

The CHAIRMAN read the Address (for which see Advertise-
ment), amidst loud and continued bursts of applause.
Mr. JESSE ADAMS, of Stonehouse, with great pleasure se-
conded the address. I will, said he, avoid personalities, con-
ceding to every one as I do the right to think and judge for
himself. In seconding the address, I beg to say that I know
nothing of any under current or under workings with reference
to the mode in, and the objects for, which the present meet-
ing has been got up. lam sorry that any young man like
Mr. Rundle should have so committed himself by making the
insinuations he has done. Ido express my regret most deeply
at Lord John Russell's late defeat. Why all this opposition
has been shown to him is simply because be is a good well-
wisher of the country—one who has been working for its be-
nefit night and day. I am no slavish admirer of persons ;
every one has his infirmities—Lord John Russell doubtless
has his ; but, in my humble opinion, he has on all occasions
followed one straightforward course, and therefore it is that I
am here to-night as one of his supporters. Lord J. Russell
is said to be a breaker of our Constitution—a papist—a de-
stroyer of the Irish Church, and that he will be of the Eng-
lish Church. I do not believe it ; and when I make this
declaration, and that as a Dissenter too, I wish the Church
could be so purified that there should be but one sect of
Christians under Heaven. Lord John Russell has begun with
the Irish Church, not to destroy it, but to equalize its reve-
nues. I have seen the state of Ireland, and wept over it. I
am no admirer of Papists, but am bound to concede to them,
as well as to others, the right to think and judge for themselves
—they are answerable only to their God ; why should they
be taxed for the support of the religion of others ? If then it is
an alteration of this system that Lord John Russell is attempt-
ing to bring about, in God's name I wish him speed.—( Loud
cheers.) I believe my Lord John Russell is no partizan ;he
wishes to do right between the Churchman and the Dissenter,
and all he wishes, and as I understand Dissenters wish, is an
equal distribution of rights and privileges ; this is all be con-
tends for, and all I wish. I have only to add, that Ido most
cordially from my heart second the address.—( Cheers.) I had
almost forgotten to allude to the Ballot. lam sorry to see by
the public prints that up to this time Lord John Russell is op-
posed to the Ballot ; I concede to him, however, the right to
think for himself. We all do not need the Ballot ; when I
shall require it, I will seek a residence beyond the Atlantic; but
there arc others, no doubt, in this room, who, though equally
independent as Englishmen, are from their lot in life prevented
from exercising that independence—it is for them I require the
Ballot. It is no disgrace to these persons ' • their allotments in
life are arranged by a higher hand, not of whom, but of their
fellow creatures have they a right to complain.—(Loud
cheers. )

Mr. ROBERT RUNDLE again presented himself to the meeting
—We have heard, he said, a good deal about the Ballot, now
will you hear me, or am Ito speak by Ballot. lam about to
propose a counter address, but first beg to offer a few remarks.
We have heard a good deal about the Augean stable of the
Irish Church ; allow me to make a few remarks about the Whig
liberality.
The CHAIRMAN hoped he would speak to the question—the
conduct of Lord John Russell.
Mr. RUNDLE—
Why did you not stop the other parties?
The CHAIRMAN—It is in answer to your previous statements
that they just spoke.
Mr. RUNDLE—The case of the Irish Church which had
been referred to was not half so flagrant as an act of the
Whig Government towards the Dutch, in time of peace, when
they brought in their ships and made prisoners of their subjects.
The CHAIRMAN called to order, and appealed to the meet-
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ing to support him, in requiring that persons should confine
themselves to the question before the meeting.
to hear him, and to
Mr. RUNDLE--As I cannot have a hearing, I will propose
the meeting
allow him to go on in his own way, as he viAs sure to expose
himself.
Mr. RUNDLE, seeing that all his attempts to procure a hear-
'
ing failed, in consequence of persisting in his irregular course,
then proceeded to read the counter address, which he did
amidst the groans and hisses of the meeting, and cries of " Too
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