The Sun.
London, England, 1832-07-04 00:00:00

SECOND DAY.

This morning the inquiry was resumed before Messrs.
WHITMARSII, COLTAIAN, and WINSLOW, the Commis-
sioners.

Miss Jemima Clayton examined by Mr. PoLaocx—
Had been governess to Miss Bagster and the family of
Alderman Crowder. She went into the family in May,
1829, and continued to be her governess up to thee when
Miss B. left the Zoological Gardens. She was about
nineteen years old when witness went to Alderman Crow-
der's. She endeavoured to instruct Miss B. Her temper
was always exceedingly violent and liable to great excite-
ment of passion—sometimes several days successively, and
sometimes she might have been a week without violence,
but seldom a week went by without something of that kind
happening ; this excitement was without the least provo•
cation. She would frequently throw things at witness,
and tear her dress s; at one time witness was nearly
stab ed by her. When she returned to a state of compo
sure she appeared to hive no sense of her impropriety,
and did not appear to) understand the consequences. She
was never allowed to go out alone ; when witness went
to her she could read tolerably ; she could not spell, but
she could write her copy. She used to write, but always
copied them, perhaps three, four, or five times over before
the letter could be sent, there were so many mistakes;
that was the case up to her going away. She is twenty-
two years old, but was not wore advanced in education
than a child of eight years old ; a child of five years of awe
would be more her companion. She does not at all un-
derstand the value of money, and is not competent to spend
money. She does not know even the relative value of coin,
and cannot form the least judgment of prices of articles.
She cannot be safely trusted to buy articles. She does
not know the number of days or weeks in the year. Wit-
ness had used every endeavour daily to teach her moral
and religious instruction, but had never been able
to make her comprehend the doctrines of the Chris.
tian religion. She can repeat the Lard's prayer,
and the creed, and can repeat the Commandments
but badly. She can commit lines of poetry to
heart if they particularly strike her. She laughs at
the idea of religion; witness had never, although she had
endeavoured, made her understand her serious relation to
her Maker. Witness had tried to ascertain whether she
knew the relative value of coin from a farthing to a
shilling. Sometimes she was able to tell how many
pence and how many sixpences there were in a shilling,
and at other times not. Witness had daily exercised her,
but never in any degree succeeded. She once gave a
sovereign to a beggar instead of a sixpence. She never had
the care of money until then. Her grandpapa allowed
her sixpence a week, which she carried in her lug, an ,
he gave her a sovereign on one occasion. Witness and
Miss B. were walking at Hammersmith, and seeing a
beggar, she took the sovereign from her bag and gave it
to him, stating that she had given him sixpence. Wit-
ness took the sovereign from him and gave him a shilling.
Witness had tried to teach her arithmetic, but she did not
understand how to add two figures together. Witness
was present when other persons attempted to converse
with her, but all her conversation was regarding her own
person, and she often appealed to witnees, fancying she
had various complaints in her head. Miss Bagster wa.
always treated by her family as a child. Mrs. and Mis•
Newton have frequently been on a
visit to the
family, and witness had seen Mr. Newton there.
Any stranger coming to the house must have instantly
observed how Miss B. was treated, and the state of her
mind was frequently the subject of conversations. On
one occasion witness went into the dining-room, after
dinner, and caught Miss Baxter drinking wine out of a
decanter; witness told her she had often suspected het
of that, and bad then caught her in the act ; she took
up the decanter to throw it at witness, who got out
of the way ; she then put the decanter down,

f and taking up some apples and pearl threw thew
at witness. Witness got behind the screen. She elm
took witness's work-box and put it on the firs; at that
moment her grandpapa came in and stopped her. She
appeared to be very susceptible of partialities for young
persons. Any gentleman she happened to see, she pre-
tended to be in love with him. On one occasion, during
Alderman Crowder's mayoralty, while the family were at
the Mansion House, witness was writing a note to a Miss
Hale. Miss B. was sitting at the same table; Miss B.
mistook the name for Miss Slade, and asked how dare the
witness write to Miss Slade. Witness showed the name,
and spelt it to her, but that did not satisfy her, for she
took up a penknife, and, in attempting to stab the witness,
her foot slipped against the frame of the table,
—(an old fashioned table,) and she stuck the knife
into the table, and the blade broke. She appeared not to
understand what she was doing. Witness reproved her,
and she laughed its a silly manner. On one occasion
when the state carriage was going out a female servant
came into the room to look through the window at the
carriage ; Miss B. ran up to her and tore her cap to pieces,
assigning no reason for it. On one Sunday during the
Mayoralty, as witness and Miss B. were walking from a
church in Cheapside, she tore the blonde off witness's bon-
net. Witness directly told the footman to run fast and open
the door ; she was pushing and pinching the witness in the
streets, but at last she was got home. Towards the close
of Alderman Crowder's mayoralty Mrs. Bagster went out
of town, desiring witness to sleep with Miss Bagster; she
did sleep with her one night, but Miss Gagster got out or
bed and threatened to murder her. Miss Bagster never
slept alone, and after that night witness requested that
another person might sleep with her. During the time
they lived at the mansion-house Miss Bagster had frequently
got out of bed during the night. She once got out of
bed, crossed the ball-room, and came to witness's room,
in her night-dress. She was awake on those occasions.
Witness bad frequently seen acts of violence towards her
mother. At one time Miss Bagster scratched the skin off
tier mother's face, so that Mrs. Bagster could not tie seen
for three weeks. While her mother tens sbsent, witness
mentioned to Alderman Crowder that she was quite ex-
hausted by Miss Bigster's conduct, anti could no longer
bear it. Alderman Crowder told witness to send for
Mrs. Bagster, and to get some person to take care of
Miss Bagster, for he was convinced it would end in a
strait waistcoat, but he wished not to be informed
more about it. He was very much distressed at
the time, and had Miss Bigster down to speak
to her. This took place in October ; they left the Mad-
sion-house in November ; and Alderman Crowder died
in three weeks afterwards at his house at Hammersmith.
Miss B. did not appear to feel anything for the death of
her grandfather. On the day of the funeral Miss B. was
dressed in black crape, nut had tine of her violent fits, she
tore her own dress, and tore a frill on her mother's person,
while preparations were making for the burial. Mr.
Newton attened the funeral, but was not in the
room when this violence occurred. Shortly after
the funeral Alias Bagster expressed a wish to
write to a Mr. Jupps : witness told her she could
not allow her to do so; she threw a pen at witness, and
directly afterwards threw a table-knife at witness, which
lodged in the sleeve of her dress. A very old friend,
William Shirley, was present, and, being much alarmed,
rang the bell, and the servant came. Alias B.'s bands
were obliged to be held while witness ran to another room,
and locked herself in. In August last witness accompanied
Mrs. Bagster and her daughter, Mrs. Horne, and Mr.
Howell, on a tour in the west of England ; in the
course of that tour Miss Bagster conducted herself
very violently; at Launceston, in Cornwall, Miss Bagster
tore her mother's bonnet and dress, and threw Mrs.
Bagstsr's watch, reticule, and several loose things out of
the window. Several persons came round the carriage,
and they drove on after recovering the things. Upon
getting in Olilsworthy Miss B. said she would not go in
the Inn, but would remain in the street; she attempted to
knock at every door she passed, and said she would break
the windows. She appeared not to be sensible of what
she had done, and there was nothing to which witness
could assign this conduct. It was nine o'clock when they
arrived at Ol'lsworthy, but it was past eleven before they
could get her into the Inn. She attempted to kick
witness, but was restrained be the gentlemen. A crowd
assembled, and Miss B. laughed at them, and wanted to
know what they stared at her for. When they got her
in the Inn she laughed and danced in the room like a
child. She threw a knife, in the room, at Mrs. Horne,
during tea, and said she would injure witness, and was
determined to do her some mischief. Mr. Howell at
last succeeded in getting her up stairs to bed, and she
wished him to remain with her. She did not appear
to understand the duties and proprieties of her
sex. There were two beds in the room, and she wished
Mr. Howell to sleep in the other bed. Witness spoke
to her of the impropriety of that, and she struck witness.
When in the bed-room she wished for a Seidlita powder,
kis would not let any one mix it for her but Mr. Howell.
He. conduct towards Mr. Howell was very improper. At
last she was got to bed, and witness slept in the other bed.
During the night she got out of bed four or five times, and
came and felt for witness, and awoke her. She asked wi,-
nese whether she was likely to have a determination of I 1 d
to the head. The following morning she was in a very had
temper, and they were two hours getting her dressed. When
they were about to go away, there was a very great crowd
collected, in consequence of her conduct the night before.
They then proceeded on to Cheltenham. When at the
Montpelier Spa, at Cheltenham, Miss B. said she was
very much in love with Mr. Howell, but she was afraid he
liked witness, but she wished to put the question to Mr.
Howell; she spoke to Mr. Howell, saying, sht was very
much attached to him, and asked if he intended to marry
the witness or her. They went afterwards to Windsor,
and went over the Castle; Miss B. joined some strangers,
who appeared to be persons of Ye' y low condition, saying,
she liked to walk with persons of their condition. She
was brought back to the party.

[A person who was in Court was observed by Mr.
Commissioner WHITMARSII to be looking very earnestly at
the witness—and at the Commissioner's request, who said
such conduct was very improper, the person was removed.
The witness was asked as to that person, and she stated
that his name was Laver, that she had never seen him
but once before, and that was at Mrs. Newton's; and
that it was his brother who was at the Zaological-
gardens, and that Mrs. Bagster did not know him.
Mr. Commissioner WHITMARSH said, be had noticed
that person several times looking very improperly at the
witness.] After they left Windsor, on the road to Lou-
don Miss B. tore her mother's dress, and broke Mrs.
Horne's spectacles. At Richmond witness slept in the
same room with Miss B. who got out of bed several times
and kept witness awake, complaining that she was going
to have inflammation in her chest; she wished witness to
look at her eyes to see if they wsr red ; she was always
liable to a notion that she was going to be ill. In Ssptem-
her Mrs. and Miss Bagster, Mr. Howell and witness, went
to Dover by a steam-packet; at Dover, while in the inn.
Miss Bagster threw a book at witness, and went to
the sideboard to get some glasses to throw at her,
but witness held her hand. She also threw her hair
comb and her mother's shoes out of the window. The
witness derailed many similar acts of Impropriety on the
part of Miss Bagster while at Dover. From Dover they
went to Hastings by the stage, and her beha-iour was no.
ticed by the other passaneers ; they then went to Brigh-
ton, where she wished to purchase a dressing-case for a
Mr. Smith. She asked Mr. Howell, several times, whe
them he thoueht Mr. Smith lik d her Mr. Smith was
Chaplain to the Lord M,yor.. After breakfast, during the
time the pamty were at prayers, Miss Bagster threw a fork
at her mother, which lodged in the back of her baud ; it
stuck so fast in the hand that witness was obliged to pull
it out ; the wound swelled very much, and was exceed-
ingly painful ; Miss B. cried at what she had done, but
said she did not care about the wound only that Mr.
Howell would be offended at her. There was no alteration
in her general conduct up to the time she left the Zocso-
gical Gardens ; she is decidedly incompetent to marling.
herself. Witnesss, on the 21st of April, went to the
Zoological Gardens, and found she was gone. That was
Saturday. On the Tuesday before Mr. Howell dined
with the family, and she felt disappointed because
he could not accompany them into Wales, and
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Mr. Howell had gone. She was that evening invited to
to go to Mrs. Newton's, hut she exptes•ed her unwilling-
uses to go because Mr. Howell was not going there. She
and witness, however, went to Mrs. Newton's. It was
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mond Newton, and one of the Mr. Lavers. The Thurs-
day was the first day named, but the day being unfavour-
able it was postponed until the Saturday. Mrs. Newton
They bad been in the
gardens about half an hour, when Miss B. and witness
were parted. She inquired for Miss B. and the enswsrs
she received satisfied witness Miss B. had gone away with
Miss Newton and Mr. R. Newton, Witness missed them
•uddenly. Some time afterwards witness PAW Miss New-
! oa sitting by herself on a chair; on asking her for Mr.
Newton and Mies Bagster, she replied they were close by

—.that she was tired and had Sat Jowl'. Witness got veey
inxious for Miss 8., and went to the gates, called Wit.
'iamson, the confidential servant, to watch at the gate,
while she went rcund the Gardens. She went en Mr.
Laver and Miss Newton, who said they had not
seen Miss Bagster and Mr. Newton. Miss Newton
said it was probable her brother had taken Miss
13agster to call on Mr. Greenwood's family in
the park, who were friends of Mrs. Bagster. At length
witness went home, and found Miss Bagster had not been
home; she then went into Mr. Newton's house, and she
was not there. Witness next saw Miss Bagster again on
the following Tuesday, at Keswick, with Mr. Newton
and Mr. Wilson. Mr. Wilson was a solicitor, whose name
had been changed from Newberry. Witness and Mrs.
Bagster, on arriving at Keswick, learnt that Mr. Newton
and Miss Bagster were driving out, and they waited
until they returned, when Mrs. Begster took Miss
Bagster, placed her in a carriage and drove her away.
Miss Bagster at first kissed witness and her mother, but
afterwards got very violent. One of the executors was
with them. She appeared glad to see her mother. In
the coarse of an hour she broke her mother's bonnet and
tore her face ; they were obliged at last to tie her hands
with a handkerchief to restrain her. She spoke once
only of Mr. Newton, and said " Why don't yeti let
me go to my husband?" She continued to he very vio-
lent on the road to London, and upon arriving here she
was placed under the care of Alderman Kelly. She
had since had similar fits of passion. Mr. Kingdon, a
medical gentleman had attended her there. Once she
asked for a glass of water, and threw it at the servant.
Speaking of her trip to Gretna Green, she called it a bit
of fun—a lark.—(Laughter.) She mentioned ether
gentlemen, and said she should like to take a similar jour-
ney. She mentioned Mr. Alderman Kelly particularly ;
also a Mr. Alfred Perfect, to whom she said she would
like to he married, as he had such a pretty face. She
asked witness once if she (witness) thought she was in
the family way. That was directly she returned. She said
she was afra'd Mr. Perfect would not think anything more
of her, as she had gone off with Mr. New on, anl she
expressed a wish to see him—she alluded to gentlemen
keeping ladies, and said she should like that sort of thing
very much ; and she said she would like to live
with one gentleman one day, and another gentleman ano-
ther day. She seemed to have no idea that marriage was
binding ; she thought she could live with any person She
said she would be married and she should then dress up
smart, and walk in the saloons of the:theatres—she should
like that thing very much.

The witness was being cross-examined by Mr. FoHet
when our reporter left.

WINDSOR, JULY 3.

Yesterday Lord HILL aut.! Lnd CoABER:Knits took
leave of their 41AJESTIES, and left the Castle for London.
Yesterday Lord and Lady CLINTON arrived on a visit
to their MAJEsTirs.

Every pr-paration was made in the course of the fore-
noon of yesterday for their MAJESTIES and company go-
ing to Virginia Water ; but in consequence of the arrival
of some important despatches, the KING was prevented
going, and the orders were consequently countermanded.
In the afternoon the KING, after forwarding a messenger
to town, took an airing in his po❑y phaeton, accompa•
nied by Lady SIDNEY.
This fi irenoon hiS MAJESTY took an airing in the Great
Park in his pony phaeton, and in the after noon, at three
o'clock, his MAJESTY again rode out, accompanied by
Lord and Lady CLINTON, Sir PHILLIP and Lady SIDNEY.
The QUEEN 11.19 not left the Castle these two d ys, in
con sequence of the dangerous state of her niece, the Prin-
cess LoctsE, whose death is hourly expected.
This morning the Life Guards left their barracks in
marching order, and after procei.ding some miles on the
Western road, returned to their arricks, which they will
leave for good en Friday next, for the Regent's-park
barracks, and will be relieved by the Royal Horse Guards
Blue.