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LONDON,
THURSDAY EVENING, APRIL 2, 1335.

The debate on the Irish Church question was again
adjourned last night. Ministers made but a sorry
fight of it. S!r H. HARDINGE, indeed, attempted
something like an argument, but he had better have
said nothing. " A still tongue maketh a wise bead,"
and the Right Hon. Baronet should have borne this
adage in mind, before he ventured to grapple with
such opponents as Messrs. SIIEIL and LITTLETON.
A discreet silence, if it did him no good, could at least
have done him no harm. A pertinacious loquacity
has all but ruined his cause. For what was his reply
to Mr. SIIEIL'S statement, that the Irish Bishops
were enormously overpaid, and, as a proof of it, that
the Archbishop of ARMAGH derived an annual in.
come from his See of seventeen thousand pounds ?
Why, merely this : that his Grace's income, so far
from being seventeen thousand, was only fourteen
thousand pounds per annum. Only fourteen Thou-
sand ! Is not this a virtual acknowledgment of the
truth of Mr. SHEICS principle ? What matters it
whether the sum drawn by the Archbishop from the,
iost impoverished people on earth, be fourteen thou--
sand or seventeen thousand, provided it be satisfactorily
proved that the sum he does receive, is at least four
times as much as justice and common sense would
assign to him? To dispute about a few hundreds,
more or less, where the revenue confessed to is so pre-
posterous, is a mere,begging of the question.
_ _ _

Mr. LITTLETON'S observations ;ere full of force
and piquancy. His sarcasm cut like a Sheffield razor.
Nothing could be happier than his allusions to the
peculiar elasticity of Sir JAMES GRAHAM'S con-
science, which could stretch to such a degree as to
allow him to vote for the abolition of ten Bishoprics,
yet would not permit him to do au act of justice to
Ireland, by devoting to the education of the people,
the surplus that might remain over from the Protestant
Establishment, after all its interests had been carefully
provided for. The Right Hon. Gentleman put the
question on its proper footing, when he stated that the
" people reverenced both King and Church in propor-
tion to their utility." This, as regards the Church,
is meeting the difficulty face to face. It is not a useful
Establishment that we deprecate. Such a one we would
do our best to maintain in all its dilcincv. It is the
principle of a sinecure Church we condemn—a Church
whose wealth is in exact proportion to its inutility.
No one will be hardy enough to assert that Catholic
Ireland has ever had value received for the enormous
sums she has contributed to her Protestant Establish-
ment. In a spiritual, not less than in a temporal
sense, she has been a considerable loser by it. Why,
then, should she not complain ? And with justice so

palpably on her side, why should not her complaints
be attended to? The question is neither a Whig nor
Tory one. It is not " cabined, cribbed, confined"
within the narrow limits of party. It is one of uni-
versal interest, on whose decision hang the destinies of
more than one kingdom.

In her present oppressed condition, as regards
her alien Church, Ireland, it is clear, will never
be tranquil. In vain will you have recourse to
temporary expedients to ward off the evil hour.
You have tried them already, and they have
failed. Change your whole system then. Be bold
where you have been timid. Dare, for once, to be

just, and trust to the gratitude of a nation for your
recompense. Partial remedies will no longer avail you.
The Irish Church is a crazy, rotten edifice, that can
only be kept from tumbling about your ears, by some
such process of renovation as Lord JOHN RUSSELL
proposes to apply. There is no warrant in Apostolic
history for such archbishoprics as that of Armagh.
Timothy says nothing about them. Luke is silent on
the subject. They are burdens, if not fastened on the
shoulders of oppressed It eland, at least maintained
there in all their rigor, by the dexterous hands of
Toryism. But the hour has arrived when this incubus
must be removed. For the first time since her con-
nexion with England, the sister-country must have leave
to breathe freely. We have ridden her with whip and
spur long enough. Let us now adopt a milder course
of treatment.

We have left ourselves little space to observe upon

Lord STANLEY'S sour, petulant, and sarcastic speech,
which we the less regret, seeing that it affords scarcely
any room for comment. The utmost we can say of

it is, that it was a very fair sample of t!..^ PrOsic acid
school of oratory. The debate, we take for granted,
will be concluded to-night, for the field of controversy
has already been carefully reaped, and nothing can
possibly remain but a few scanty gleanings. Yet, not-
withstanding this, Mr. HORACE Twiss, it is said,
threatens the House with a long speech. Heaven help
his hearers I

An abstract relating to the Irish Church, and taken
from the returns made in 1833 to the Privy Council,
has just been printed on the motion of Mr. FINN.
As it bears directly upon the great question which
now occupies the attention of Parliament, we take from
this document the following statement :—The total
number of Benefices in Ireland -is 1,340 ; 845 of
the incumbents are resident ; 460 are non-resident ;
and 35 benefices are vacant, or no returns have been
made. Of the 460 non-resident incumbents, 162
are exempt from residence as residing on other
benefices, as Chaplains, Officials in Ecclesiastical
Courts, Fellows of Colleges, Masters of Public
Schools, Church Dignitaries, &c. ; 111 have Li-
censes in consequence of infirmity, want or unfitness of a
residence, &c. ; and 187 are non-resident without license
or exemption, but 83 of them perform the duties of
their parishes. Of the benefices where the incum-
bents are non-resident, 177 are of the annual value of
3001. and upwards, and 124 under that sum. The
number of Curates employed in Ireland is 365, of
whom 118 are non-resident. There are 10 Curates whose
stipend is under 10/. ; 17 from 101. to 20/. ; 14 from
201. to 30/. ; 4 from 301. to 40/. ; 6 from 401. to 50/. ;
10 from 501. to 60/. ; 29 from 601. to 70/. ; 154 from
701. to 80/. ; 19 from 801. to 90/. ; 28 from 901. to
100/. ; 33 from 1001. to 110/. ; and 30 above that sum.

Such is the state of that Church from which its
supporters would have us believe that we may expect
the dissemination of the Protestant Faith, and the
gradual extirpation of Catholicism in Ireland. This
Church, which is described as being so zealous for
the propagation of the " true faith," is now found to
contain 460 non-resident incumbents out of 1,340, or
more than one-third of the whole number, of whom
187 have not even the specious excuse of license or
exemption for non-residence I Most of the curates,
as usual, are starving upon beggarly pittances, al-
though the benefices of 177 of the absentee incum-
bents are worth upwards of 3001. a-year. Even of
the curates 118 are non-resident ; so that 118 pa-
rishes must be entirely without spiritual aid in the
Protestant Faith beyond the mere performance of Di-
vine Service on Sundays. Is this the system, then,
which is to gain ground against the zealous exertions
of the Catholic Clergy ? Is this the establishment for
the maintenance of which Ireland is to be kept in a
state of civil war, and Britain is to pay million after
million in loans, gifts, and military establishments ?

We have received the whole of the Paris Papers of
Tuesday. Lord COWLEY delivered his credentials to
the KING on Tuesday, as Ambassador Extraordinary
from this Court. His MAJESTY received his Lord-
ship and Suite with great cordiality, as did the
QUEEN and the Duke of ORLEANS.

The Moniteur contains the following Royal Ordi
nance respecting the trial of the prisoners of April :

" Louis PHILIPPE, King of the French. To all present
and come greeting. Seeing Art. 22, 28, 29, and 47 of the
Constitutional Chamber, and Art. 4 of the Law of April 10,
1834, which determine the cases which the Chamber of Peers
is formed into a Court of Justice,

"Seeing Article 38 of the law, 22 Vintose year XII., of the
following tenor :
" Provision shall be made by regulations of public adminis-
tration for the execution of the law, and specially what con-
cerns 7thly, the formation of the list of Advocates and the
discipline of the Bar ;"
" Seeing the decree of the 14th December, 1810, and the
Royal Ordinance of 20th November, 1822, contain regula-
tions for the exercise of the profession of Advocate, and the
discipline of the Bar ;

" Seeing article 4 of our Ordinance of 27th August, 1830, of
the following tenor :
" Reckoning from the same date (of the publication of the
Ordinance), every Advocate inserted in the list may plead in
all the Royal Courts, and all the tribunals of the kingdom,
without needing any permission, saving the enactments of
article 295 of the code d'instruction criminelle ;"
"Seeing article 295 of the code d'instruction criminelle of the
following tenor :
" The counsel of the accused cannot be chosen by him, or
appointed by the Judge, except from among the advocates or
avou'es of the Royal Court or of its resort, unless the accused
obtains from the President of the Court of Assize permission
to for counsel one of his relations or friends ;
" On the report of our Keeper of the Seals, Secretary of
State for the Department of Justice and Ecclesiastical Affairs,
" Considering that the regulations for the discipline of the
Bar contain no special distinction respecting the exercise of
the profession of advocate before the jurisdiction of the Court
of Peers, and that it is fitting to make a provision on this point
for the interest of the accused and of public order—
'4 By the advice of our Council of State, we have ordained
as follows :

" Art. 1. Every Advocate inserted in the list of a Court,
or of one of the tribunals of the kingdom, may exercise
his office before the Court of Peers. Nevertheless, none
but the Advocates in the Royal Court of Paris can be
appointed ex officio by the President of the Court of
Peers, conformably to Article 294 of the Code d' In-
struction Crintinelle. 2. The advocates who are called to
exercise their office before the Court of Peers shall enjoy the
same right, and be bound to the same duties as before the
Courts of Assize. 3. The Court of Peers and its President
are invited, with all the powers in regard to the Advocates, as
belong to the Courts of Assize, and the Presidents of those
Courts. 4. Our Keeper of the Seals, Secretary of State for
the Department of Justice and Ecclesiastical Affairs, is charged
with the execution of the present Ordinance.
" Paris, 30th March 1835.

" LOUIS PHILIPPE.
" By the King.
" The Keeper of the Seals.
(Signed) " C. PERSIL."

We have not space to-day to enter into any remarks
on this document. The French papers do.not contain
any further intelligence of any importance to an Eng-
lish reader.

FRENCH FUNDS —PARIS, MARCH 31.
Five per Cent,., 107 f. 25c. 40c.
Four per Cents., LS:: oe.
Three ner Cents., Ea
National Loan, 107 f. 20c.
Bank Actions, 1,890 E 1,885 f.
Rcnte de Naples, 97f. 35c. 45c.
Roman Five per Cents., 994.
Rode d'Espagne, Five per Cents., 473 48
Rente d'Espagne, Three per Cents., 2914
Roy. Spanish Loan, 47-N.
Rente Perpet. d'Espagne, Five per Cent., 4714 N.
Portuguese Loan, Fire per Cents., 93.
Portuguese Loan, Six per Cents. 100%.
Haytian Loan, 382 f. 50c.
EXCLIAND6 ON LONDON.
One month, paper, 25f. 45c. ; money, 251. 45,.
Three months, paper, 251. 30c. ; money, 251. 30e.
—(*o, rs Authentique.

BOURSE, QUARTER TO FOUR.—Five per Cents, 107 f. BOc. ;
3 per Cents., 80f. 70e. ; 5 per Cent. Spanish, 48; 3 per Cent.
ditto, 29i ; Cortes, 48 ; Coupons, 28,1 ; Guebhard, 473 ; Dif-
feres, 18731 ; New Loan, 68; Ducats, 97 50; Romans, 993 ; Pe-
dros, 933:; Dutch, 56 90 ; Haytians, 382 if. ; Brabant Bank, 20*.

By the latest accounts from Bayonne, we learn
that General MINA is making the most active pre-
parations for opening a campaign, which is to effect
the extirpation of the Carlists. So various and
contradictory, however, are the rumours afloat,
respecting the chances of the belligerents on
both sides, that we can place no confidence in any
communication we receive. Before the end of May
Don C A RLOS pledges himself to have entered Madrid
in triumph ; and MINA seeks not a longer period for
presenting his Royal Mistress with the Prince in chains.

We learn from the Paris papers received this day,
that the Spanish Chamber of Deputies has granted
the QUEEN the sum of 14,668,854 reals, to be levied
as a tax upon spirituous liquors.

We have received Dutch and German Papers of the
latest dates. The Grand Duke of BADEN is extremely
anxious to have it believed that he entertains no hostile
designs agains the Swiss Cantons. Ambassadors from
Foreign Courts are constantly arriving at Vienna with
condolatory letters to the EMPEROR on the death 'of
his late Imperial Majesty, FRANCIS I. The following
is the only interesting paragraph in these Journals :--
" A great sensation has been excited in the public mind by a
dreadful murder, committed at Pesth, by Count Francis Pre-
leznay. This man belongs to a wealthy Hungarian noble

family. A dissolute way of living, had caused him to be
plunged in debts, and induced_Count John, 116 elder brother,
to have placed him under guardianship, as unable to manage his
own affairs. Incensed at this, he went, on the 19th instant,
at three o'clock in the afternoon, to his brother, with three
loaded double-barrelled pistols; and called on him to have the
decree against him revoked ; his brother refusing, he imme-
diately fired at him, and the ball lodged in his stomach ; he
then discharged another ball, which wounded his brother's
wife in the breast, and then wounded a civil officer, who hap-
pened to be present, with two balls in the arm and stomach.
The brother struggled with him, and the servants hastening
in, separated them. Count Francis got without hindrance
into his' carriage, and then he proceeded to his own
residence, where he was afterwards arrested by two officers
and nine soldiers. The officer whom he wounded is dead ;
it is said there are some hopes of saving the lives of the two
other victims. A fearful occurrence took place in the family
of Preleznay some years ago. A young brother of the above
mentioned murderer assassinated their father, and was be-
headed. The Hungarian law condemns him who murders a
father or a brother to be beheaded, after having had the right
hand cut off. The son who murdered his father underwent
this sentence, and the fratricide will not escape it.

DUTCH FUNDS—AMSTERDAM, MARCH 31.
Money, Bills.
Actual pebt, 234 per Cent. si9'4 5534 A
'sort Syndic, 43p per cent. 94% 95%
Ditto, ditto, 3', per cent 79% 844
Loan (1830) 5 per cent.
Ditto (1E32 and 1833) 5 per cent.
Commercial Company, 4, per cent lO5 106
Exchange on London, One month l2 2%.
Two months
Dutch Papers, April 1.
BELGIAN FUNDS.—BaussEts, MARCH 31.
Actual Debt, 23¢ per Cent , 55
Rothschild's Loan, Five per Cent lO2
Loan of City, 1832, Four per Cent 993s
Bank of Belgium, Five per Cent 119%
Society of Commerce, Four and a Half per Cent l2l
PRUSSIAN FUNDS.—BERLIN, MARCH 26.
Bills. Money.
St. Schuld. Sch., 41 per cent. 100% lOWA •
Prussian English Loan, 1830, 4 per cent. 99 98
Exchange en London, Three months ... 6 25
—Prussian State Gazette, March 27.

THE DUKE OF GORDON'S DINNER.—On Tues-
day, the Duke of Gordon gave a sumptuous entertainment to
the Officers of the First Battalion of Fusileer Guards, upon
his being appointed to succeed his Royal Highness the late
Duke of Gloucester, as Colonel of that regiment. The dinner
was given at the City of London Tavern, the drawing-room of
which was tastefully arranged for 80 guests. On the right
of his Grace sat the Commander-in-Chief, Lord Hill, and on
the left the Duke of Wellington, on whose left again sat Sir
George Murray.
EXTENSIVE ROBBERY OF PLATE AT SAMUEL
RooEas, ESQ'S.—To the already numerous list of robberies of
jewellery and plate which have recently taken place at the
town residences of the Nobility and Gentry, we have to add
one of an extensive description at the house of the author of
The Pleasures of Memory," No. 22, St. James's-place.
The man who is supposed to be the plunderer has been in the
service of Mr. Rogers for the last seven years, and so high
was the opinion entertained of him by his master, that he was
entrusted with the whole of the valuable property in the house.
A large reward is offered for his apprehension and the reco-
very of the property.
DRURY-LANE THEATRICAL FUND.—The 18th
anniversary dinner of this excellent Institution, established in
1777, for the relief of indigent persons belonging to their Ma-
jesties Company of Comedians, and their widows and chil-
dren, was celebrated last night, at the Freemasons' Hall. Up-
wards of 200 persons sat down to table, amongst whom we re-
cognized several distinguished patrons of the drama, and some
of the leading members of the profession. The Right Hon.
the Earl of Mulgrave presided.
INCREASE AND DIMINUTION OF PUBLIC SA-
LmuEs.—An account of the Public Salaries during 1834 is
just published, which shows the total augmentation to have
been 32,6831. 4s. 2d.; of which sum 25,0841. 16s. 4d. was
for salaries, emoluments, and expenses, and 7,5981. 7s. 9d. for
retired allowances. The total decrease was 75,0741. ; of
which reduction 54,9161. 14s. 6d. was in salaries, emolu-
ments and expenses, and 20,1571. 2s. 10d. in retired al-
lowances.

COURT OF ALDERMEN.—Yesterday, at a Court
held for the despatch of business, Sir Peter Laurie gave
notice of a motion to throw open the Court of Aldermen to the
public. Alderman Copeland is, we understand, to second the
motion of Sir Peter Laurie, which is to the effect of opening
the Court upon all occasions, except those on which the sub-
jects of the police and local matters are discussed. The Court
then unanimously adopted a resolution to protest against the
vote of the Court of Common Council, recommending the
periodical election of Aldermen.

Yesterday despatches for Bombay were made up at
the East India-house, and given into the charge of Captain
P. M. Melvi,ll, of the Bombay establishment, who is proceed-
ing to India by way of Malta and Egypt.
ACCIDENT.—On Wednesday afternoon about
twenty minutes before five o'clock a small boat was observed
in the Loch on her return from Greenock, with her sail set,
and coming along in fine weather. In this boat it was known
there were four persons. In about twenty minutes after the
boat was seen, those who had previously been on the watch,
observed she had disappeared, and immediately a boat was put
off in search from Coalport Ferry. After some search they
found the body of Mrs. M'Kay floating in the water, but none
of the others were seen. In the look-out they also picked up
a basket, in which was the great coat of Mr. M'Kay. It
i 3 not known how the accident took place, although it is most
probable the boat was upset by one of those sudden gusts of
wind which are so common in those lochs, especially at this
season of the year.
IRISH CHußclr.—There are in the Church of
England established by Act of Parliament in Ireland, accord-
ing to the Ecclesiastical Register :
Parishes 2450 Perpetual Curacies ......... 109
Benefices 1396 Chapelries
Churches 1192 Cathedral Churches ...... 24
In the province of Cashel, one-half of the benefices, are
altogether destitute of churches; and in the provinces of 11.a.m
one-third of the benefices are in a similar state of destitution.
There is—

One Bishop for 27,272 men, women, and children.

One Treasurer for ditto.
One Chancellor for ditto.
One Precentor for 22,077 ditto.
One Dean for 18,182 ditto.
One Achdeacon for 17,647 ditto.

One Prebendary for 3,331 ditto.
One Clergyman for 331 ditto.
Besides the Warden of Galway, and two ecclesiastical Provost..
FlRES.—Besides the destructive fire at Lord Di-
norben's, there have been several minor calamities of the same
kind during the last two nights, in various parts of the me-
tropolis. At Mr. Hitchcock's, linen-draper, Waterloo-house,
Finsbury, owing to the escape of gas from under the counter,
a fire broke out about eleven o'clock at night, which destroyed
or damaged much of the stock, and likewise the shop-fit-
tings. Owing to the dropping of a light on some straw, a
fire occurred in the premises of Mr. Woolf, salesman, 31,
Monmouth-street, and destroyed a bed and a quantity of
wearing apparel. A bag of clothes, value 251., is stated to
have been lost amid the confusion. Mr. Woolf was insured.
The house of Mrs. Butcher, 4, Castle-place, Westminster,
and the adjoining one of Mr. Nicholas, were likewise, the
former greatly, and the latter slightly, damaged by an acci-
dental fire on Monday night.
THE ROBBERY IN CHEAPSlDE.—Yesterday a
Special Court of Middlesex Magistrates was held for the pur-
pose of receiving the report of the Committee appointed to
investigate the charge preferred against Mr. Vickery, late
Governor of the House of Correction, of having taken a very
prominent part in the negotiation for the restoring of the pro-
perty stolen from Mr. Williamson of Cornhill, so as to enable
the Court to determine whether his conduct was of that highly
reprehensible kind to make it incumbent on the Court to
withdraw the annuity of 2001. granted him " during pleasure."
The report was read by the clerk. Mr. Laurie moved that it
be printed and circulated, and that it be taken into considera-
tion the next Court-day. It was then carried, and the Court
broke up.

faCONFLAGRATION AT BUTE HOUSE.—(Addi-
tional Particulars.)—We lament to have the painful task of
stating that all the magnificent productions of the pencil of
Cipriani and other Italian artists, who flourished seventy years
since in this country, are destroyed by the accidental fire
which took place at this spurious mansion, built by the great
Earl of Bute during the period of the Rockingham Adminis-
tration. These gems of art decorated five spacious saloons—
we mean the walls and the architraves of the doorways—the
style wholly Etruscan. In addition to the loss of most va-
luable furniture may be mentioned the massive mirrors from
the ceilings to the floor, occupying every vacant space. The
cause of the fire was as follows:—During the autumn of the
last year workpeople were employed to erect a flue in the nur-
sery of the Earl of Cawdor's house, and they, cutting into the
wall, brought the flue directly under a large horizontal
beam in Bute House, which evidently had been in a smoulder-
ing state for many days. An express was sent down to Kin-
noul Park, St. Asaph, on Sunday morning. Bute House, in
South Audley-street, forms a prominent feature when viewed
from Hyde Park, with its four bow-fronts of a beautiful red
brick and inimitable workmanship.

MUNIFICENT PATRON OF LEARNING.---M.DUpill
the elder, the " penny magazine" man of France, has lately
made a donation to the town of Varzy, his native place, of a
perpetual annuity of 50 francs (V.) This sum (1), destined
for the encouragement of learning in the Commercial College
of Varzy, towards the foundation of which the Hon. President
of the Chamber contributed, will be employed every year in
the purchase of books given as prizes to the deserving students.
IMPROVEMENT OF THE BANKS OF THE THAMES.
—We are glad to hear it is in contemplation by the Conserva-
tors of the Thames to erect, at convenient distances, proper
landing places along the banks of the river, and, where it can
be done with propriety, to form walks and drives for the re-
creation of the public. We trust no feeling of false economy
will prevent the execution of a plan so fraught with real good.
A few days ago several young women were fording
the port at Boulogne-sur-Mer, in order to reach the beach of
Chatillon, in order to fish for shrimps, when three of them
sunk into a hole, and would have been drowned, but for the
noble exertions of the two sons of Dr. Campbell, who instantly
hastened to save them. The youngest, who is not more than
17 years old, soon brought two of the girls to shore, but one
had been carried away by the waves, and must have inevitably
perished, had not the eldest, who is an excellent swimmer,
followed her, and after a long and arduous struggle succeeded
in reaching her, and bringing her to the land. She had lost
her senses, but was happily recovered. We understaud this
is the third act of the same kind performed by the latter
courageous youth.