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when be saw the petition against the measures of Govern.
eacnt,aigned. by 235,000 Protestants. That was not an
indicdtien of a defect in their understanding, nor of that
sanseless character which the Noble Lord had modestly
ascribed to them. They shewed that they justly appreci-
ated the blessings they had long enjoyed. He must see
noose better fruit of the conduct of the Government than
he had yet beheld before he believed its professions. The
Government said it was neuter ; but he asked, with which
party did the contest arise ? The Catholics of Ireland had
received the greatest boon ever conferred on any people ;
and when they accepted it they said they bad then got
every thing they wanted. But scarcely were they in pos-
session of their wishes when the embers of the old Asso-
ciation were again blown into a blaze, and publicly, openly,
and boldly, they professed their object was to separate the
two countries. Did the attack, then, originate with the
Protestants?—(Hear.) Did the Government take any
effectual measures to put down these attacks? The
attack m tele on the tithes began more than a year
ago ; had it been instigated by Protestants ? It began
with the hurlers, attended by a legal gentleman to
advise them so as not to break the law. Were these
proceedings put down ? The Government said it
had applied the law ; but for a whole year these pro
ceedings had been going on the Government found the
law not efficient, and it had come to ask for fresh powers.
After this state of things had continued a whole year, the
Nobl, Eirl came down and said, if he found that his
powers were not sufficient to put down these disorders, he
would not shrink from applying to Parliament for more
power.—( Hear, hear.) He had submitted to excitement
and aeitation for a whole- year; rebellion had not been ar-
rested but fostered ; and now, at the end of a year's pro-
fessions, the Government doubted whether it should apply
fur greater power. If the Government made the appli-
cation to Parliament, it would be found that no power
would be refused—no establWinsent withheld by those
whom it generally considered in opposition to it ; and if
any opposition were made, it would come from those to
whom it was accustomed to look as its political friend..
The Noble Lord said that the agitator was not punished,
because the law expired; but how did it expire? By the
roost hasty, impatient proceeding of the Ministers.—
(Hear, hear.) They had terminated the Parliament
abruptly, and lost the opportunity of re-enacting the law.
The Noble Lord concluded by stating, that he saw no
ground for confiding in Ministers ; if he saw any determi-
nation, on its part, to put down the rebellious spirit that
prevailed in Ireland, he should be ready to give his sup-
port to the measure proposed. He regretted to say that
hitherto the policy of the present Government had been
net to give that support to the Protestants of Ireland they
had a right to expect, and which they had formerly re-
ceived.—( Hear, hear.)
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE complained of the
strong language used by the Noble Earl towards the Go-
vernment, who had said that rebellion had been fostered
and eacnuraged in Ireland—[The Earl of CAANARVON did
not say the Government had fostered rebellion.]—He
wished that the Noble Lord would make some specific
charge against the Government, and if the Noble Earl
could show that the Government had neglected to support
the clergy of Ireland, or to use its proper authority, he
certainly would not support the Government. He must
deny that the great body of the Protestants of Ireland were
represented by the Orangemen, and as a Protestant Noble-
man, he must say that the associations alluded to by the
Noble Lord were not the whole Protestant party. They
had been spoken of as embracing two millions of Pro.
testants, and now they had shrunk down to 230,000.
The Earl of CARNARVON said a few words in explana-
tion, and the subject dropped.—Adjourned.

ROUSE OF COMMONS, FZIIIWARY 17.

The SPEAKER. took his seat at Four o'clock.

This being the last day for the reception of petitions on
private Bills the House was occupied a considerable time
in receiving such petitions ; among them was one presented
by Sir Ga AY SKIPWITH in favour of the projected rail-road
from London to B rmingham, and leave was given to
bring in a Bill to carry that project into effect.
DESTROYING THRASHING MACHINES.

Lord GEORGE LENNOX presented a petition from
an individual named Wiliam Crnss, a farmer of the pariah
of Whitfield, near Dover, in which the petitioner stated
that his thrashing machine was destroyed in November last,
and upon going before a Magistrate he was informed
that there was no law to protect thrashing machines.
The petitioner, therefore, prayed for an alteration in the
law. The Noble Lord said he much regretted that thrash.
ing machines were not protected in the same way as ma-
nufocturing machines, and if he found that his Majesty's
Government did not intend to introduce a law to that
effect, he certainly would do so himself.
Mr. HUNIE said on a former occasion be presented a
similar petition from an individual whom be referred to
the law officers, and he was tben told that both the peti-
tioner and himsdf had laboured under a mistake. He
thought that no person would deny that thrashing ma-
chines derived the same protection as any other
property, and if they were not protected by the Bill of
the Hon. and Learned Member for Stafford, it was
the duty of the Government to bring in such a Bill. He
put it to the Hon. and Learned Member opposite (allud-
ing. we believe, to the Solicitor-General) whether thrash.
ing machines ought not to be as well protected as a man's '
,hairs or tables ?

The SOLICITOR-GENERAL addressed a few words
in reply across the table, but it was impossible to catch
the purport of his observations.
Lord G. LENNOX said he showed the petition to the
Attorney-General the other day, and asked if it was the
intention of his Majesty's Government to bring in such a
Bill, and the reply was that it was not.
Mr. HUME said that be should take the earliest op-
portunity, the first night of Supply, of putting the ques-
tion to his Majesty's Ministers.
Mr. HUNT observed, that the Hon. and Learned
Member for Middlesex had applied to the Hon. and
Learned Member opposite (the Solicitor-General) as
one of the law officers of the Crown, on a legal
subject, and the Hon. Member had stated he could
not give an answer.—(A laugh.) He did not altogether
understand the subject, but he should like to know on what
authority thrashing machines were not protected while
manufacturing machines were ?
Mr. O'CONNELL thought nothing could be more un-
fair than to impute blame to the Hon and Learned
Member opposite, because he did not know the con-
tents of an Act of Parliament. If the Hon. Member
for Preston supposed that lawyers knew the contents of
every Act of Parliament, he had never made a greater
mistake in his life, and that was a bold word.
Sir EDWARD SUGDEN did not think that the Crown
lawyers sat in that House for the purpose of answering
every question of a legal nature that was put to them. The
subject then dropped.
Lord G. LENNOX presented four petitions from Pet-
worth and other parts of the county of Sussex, complain-
ing of the great increase of poor rate., and praying the
House to take the subject under its most serious consi-
deration.
Sir C. BURRELL, although he was not an advocate
for compulsory measures, thought, if some plan was
adopted on the subject, it would be the means of doing
great good to the lower classes of society. He concurred
entirely with the prayer of the petition, and would give it
his most cordial support.
After a few words from Lord NUGENT, which were
wholly inaudible in the gallery,
Colonel EVANS supported the prayer of the petitions,
and hoped the House would speedily peas some measure to
relieve the distress which prevailed among the agricultural
labourers.
Mr. BENETT recommended, as the best means of
alleviating the distress in the labouring population, a com-
mutation of tithes, and such a change in the system of
taxation as to relieve the industrious classes.
After a desultory conversation between Mr. HUNT, Sir
C.
B URRYLL, and Mr. GILLON, the petitions were ordered
to lie on the table, and to be printed.
Mr. 11. ROSS presented a petition from the Chamber
fora re
of Commerce, Dundee, fo duction of duty on hemp
and the raw material of linen.
The LORD ADVOCATE' moved the third reading of
the Scotch Cholera Prevention 8,11. Pass d.
Mr. HUNT wished to call the attention -of Government
to a fact which had corns to his knowledge this forenoon.
This morning early an individual, who had be seized n.
beenh
cholera at Hoxton, had been carried from thence in a
where
hackney coach to Bartholomew's Hospital,
the attendant surgeon pronounced it a case of
cholera, but refused to admit him—he was then
driven to Abchurch-lane, and from thence to the
dispensary in Surrey, where, after being bled, he then
jay in extreme danger. He had thus been for two or
three hours " hawked" about from the eic.reme north
of the city to the Borough. Ile hoped, when this
statement was known, that measures would be adopted for
the prevention of siinilar occurrences. He could also state
that a sailor was brought up in a cabriolet from the lower
part of Tooley-street to the Caine dispensary.
Alderman VENABLES could state, for the satisfaction
of the Hon. Member, that although the 'intend' facts
had been as represented, yet the case could not be cholera,
as the individual had recovered.
Sir R. PEEL hoped that care would be taken that unin-
tentional injury was not inflicted by such public statements
on a large portion of the cairmunlr.. It ...Quid be mach