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this occasion. He should therefore vote for the suspension

the writ.--( Hear, hear.)
The gallery was then cleared, but the motion was agreed
to without a division.
Mr. HUME begged to ask the Right Hon. the Chancellor
of the Exchequer whether he was prepared to agree to the
appointment of a Committee relative to the question
he proposed a few evenings ago in relation to the union of the
military and civil services suggested by him.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied,
but his answer was not heard in the Gallery.
ORDNANCE DEPARTMENT.
Mr. HUME, after referring to the proposed plan for anvil'
gamating the civil and military departments of the Ordnance,
begged to ask the Right Hon. Gentleman (the Chancellor of
the Exchequer) whether he was prepared either to agree to
the appointment of a Committee of that House to inquire into
the subject, or to renew the former Commission, or to appoint
a new one, with the view of ascertaining how far the object bed
had in view could be accomplished ? He (Mr. Hume) she
not be satisfied to go on with the Ordnance Estimates, unless
he received some assurance that measures would be taken t_°,l
prosecute the inquiries which had already been comment

upon the subject. lied
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER reB
that it was his intention, without delay, to renew the eta"
mission appointed under the Government of Lord Grey.
THAMES TUNNEL.
Mr. WALTER begged again to revert to a subject to 'shilh!
he had alluded a few nights ago. A short time before the
recess he saw a statement, that a considerable sum of ni°ll;
upwards of 30,000/., had been advanced in part payment .
sum of 270,0001. agreed to be advanced by the Government
the Thames Tunnel Company, and it was said at the time ute
the Government were entitled by Act of Parliament to int
that advance. Now, considering the 270,0001. so agreed Wtew-r)
advanced to be in some jeopardy, the question he (Mr.
wished to put was this, whether the Right Hon. Gentlewisti
the Chancellor of the Exchequer, had any objection W
before the House all the information which Government
received encouraging it to make the advance, and also to'
security was proposed to be given for the repayment of it.ed,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUERreP,ia
that the advance had been made upon the strength of oe:sfid
representations which were last year laid before the BO re
Works. All who had read the Act of Parliament were af.he
that the money was advanced on security of the whole 01
et
property of the Company. There would be no object!T,i_es,
difficulty to produce the documents to which the Hon.
tleman had referred. the'
Mr. WALTER was afraid that the security was 110-°
than that of a losing concern. E.
On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EN
CH
QUER, the House resolved itself into a
COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY.—BRITISH MUSED he
Sir ROBERT PEEL (as one of the Trustees 01 fed
a
British Museum), moved that the sum of 17,7961. be gl
to his Majesty to defray the estimated expenditure °'the
e%,
British Museum for the year ending April, 1836. Undected
isting circumstances, there being a Select Committee ape f
to inquire into every matter connected with the expend't°,re to
the British Museum, it was not necessary for him no
lion
enter into any detail. The House would hear with satisfar
ero
that the public advantages derived from the Museum werj
rapidly increasing. In 1833, there were 210,000 gen is
visitors; in 1834, the number was 237,000. The reatler;6;
the library, in 1833, were 5,800; in 1834, they were 7,206
and the number of students in painting and sculpture had
increased.
wit°
Mr. HUME hoped the number of days and hours on
the Museum could be visited would be increased.
After a few remarks carried on in a conversational tone int
dible to the Reporters, b) Sir Robert Inglis, Mr. Reecx.
the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Mr. Cobbett, and
Bowring, the resolution was agreed to.
ORDNANCE ESTIMATES. the
Colonel LEITH HAY said, that in bringing forws,.-,ts
Ordnance Estimates it was not necessary for him to trest7dt
long on the time of the Committee. It would be evident;,,
these estimates were drawn up under peculiar circuMstsitio
inasmuch as they were drawn up by his Majesty's late tipt
ters. It had been his duty to investigate the items°, tbet
estimates and endeavour to come to a. conclusion as to vole to
they had been drawn up with a view, in the first place' t° 00
efficiency of the service, and in the second to economy tbst
was quite satisfied, so far as lie was able to judge tbst
both those circumstances had been attended to, sn' jsa
the estimates were such as the House ought to red
ectel
and adopt. Though the reduction that had been en_s,ti,
was small, yet it was as much as could be done with rce:;„
and consistently with the efficiency of the public soil 00.
(Hear, hear.) During the time that Sir James Kempt wesad,
netted with the Ordnance—that was, from 1830 to iTaf
six hundred officers in the civil department of that brancotl.
the service were reduced, making a saving of 46,6941.25. 00
and on the salaries of the officers who continued a saving Ire;
effected of 8,4021. 19s. The Ordnance Establishment""tei
land last year cost 86,005/. ; the present estimates anwLe st
only to 71,193/. There had, however, been an increases
expenditure occasioned by the transfer of the Goinalliaot
from the Treasury Board to the Ordnance departraent.,
the last estimates also, by the statute which remilatrmeoe
affairs of the East India Company, the island of 'St. bi
had been transferred from the Company to the Crown sal
which it became necessary that an Ordnance establish tot
should be sent out to that colony. The Hon. Menlber of
Middlesex would be glad to hear that his recommendatitniof
the removal of the depot in Tooley-street to the Tower
been acted upon, and would soon be completely effected. og
had caused a temporary increase ofexpenditure, but thesa 01
of expense prospectively would amply compensate for it' sic
had endeavoured so to alter the barrack arrangements ill; g
land, Ireland, and the colonies, as to give a further noll'o
expenditure. The vote taken last year was 134,7851*
vote required this year for the same services, and exe
the increase by the transfer of the Commissariat was lin' the
the difference being in consequence of the increase 'nest
price of forage which had taken place, He had now tO. t°
that the sum of 71,193/ should be granted to his Ninitilt
pay the salaries of the Master-General and the prinniblas"
cers belonging to the Ordnance Department at
in Ireland for the ensuing year.
„„
After a desultory conversation between Mr. 11°1';esoly
Cobbett, Dr. Bowring, and other Hon. Members, the
tion was agreed to.
The next vote was one of 8.206 e. for defraying the
of salaries in the Ordnance Department. —Agreed to.ceegog
The question was then put, that a sum not esests'
14,8811. be granted for defraying the salaries of the to"- t
tion.—Agreed to,
0
The next vote was 27,983/. for the salaries of - 016 Kt,
Ordnance at the out.stations; which, after some dest°
Ijsjr
marks from Mr. Roebuck, Mr. Hume, Colonel LeP-oftk!
the Chancellor of the Exchequer, &c., on the subjeetsforf
fortifications building in the Canadas, which the two
Gentlemen contended to be unnecessary, was agreed listock
The next vote, for 35,477/. for Barrackmasters, anl 0001A6
Sergeants was, after some conversation between Mr' oths.
'"
Mr. Roebuck, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and
agreed to. older
The following sums were agreed to, after some fey(
vations :-
4,459/. for the Master Gunners of Jersey and GtleriP
74,9341. for the Royal Engineers, and Sappers and
in Great Britain, Ireland, and the colonies.
275,4451. for the Royal Artillery. and •tb•
39,962/. for the expenses of the Royal Hospital,
Riding House duty.
sanß.
--
10,0401. for the Medical Establishment of the o.un
30,888/. for defraying the charge of Ordnance w°ll 05.0001.-
1,6841. for the repair of Ordnance works, for rents of
and premises.
28,2161. for superintendence of building and re
barracks.
68,2031. for the building and repairs of barracks. WO*
64,011/. for Barrack Masters' expenditure and a"
lodging money to Officers, &c.
131,932/. for civil, military, and barrack contingene
65,0001. for stores. d P' co,
20,000/. on account of stores for the years 1836 8--
1,600/. for services performed by the office of Urdosa
and not provided for by Act of Parliament.
164,258/. for Ordnance, civil, and military superannus
161,083/. for Commissariat supplies. the reW
.01
The CHAIRMAN then obtained leave to re tTrt e befl
lutions, embodying the above votes ; and, the noun
resumed, they were reported accordingly. Ott
OATHS ABOLITION BILL. Aboti
On the motion of Lord STANLEY, the Oaths ,
Bill went through Committee. seams'
On the motion of Sir J. GRAHAM, the Merchant
ode°
Bill went through Committee. 50- •ea
Sir J. GRAHAM moved for returns of corre fore's
between the Admiralty and the Consuls resident aa to. ~0
stations relative to the discharge of seamen. Agrse, pet'
Dr. BOWRING postponed the presentation 0f not' ;,1
from the inhabitants of Preston, of which he had gl of,
The other Orders of the Day were then dispose
the House adjourned at a quarter-past ten o'cloex•

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Streatham, Surrey, the Hon. Mrs. W. Coventry, °' -
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