The Sun.
London, England, 1859-07-27 00:00:00

GREENWICH HOSPITAL.

On the motionfWgeinginto committee of supply,
Sir C. NAPIER complained that no attention had been
paid to the subject of the management of Greenwich Hos-
pital to which for several successive years he had called the
attention of the house and of the Government, and there-
fore he should persist in the motion, of which he had given
notice, by now moving, as an amendment, that " an humble
address be presented to her Majesty, praying her Majesty
to appoint a commission to inquire into the management of
Greenwich Hosßital:"

WHITBREAD opposed the motion on the ground
of the expense and the length of time (six months) which
the inquiry would occupy. He trusted it would be left to
the Government, so recently come into office, to avail them-
selves of the autumn recess to inquire into tlie revenues, the
expenditure, and the management of the great nautical es-
tablishment at Greenwich.
Sir J. ELPHINSTONE thought that five or six naval
officers might be appointed as a commission to inquire into
the matter during the recess, and that expense ought not to
stand in the way of inquiry.
Sir G. PECHELL supported the amendment, though he
thought the abuses did not exist so much at Greenwich as
at the naval head-quarters, the Admiralty, at Whitehall.
Mr. LYGON urged the postponement of this inquiry till
next year.
Mr. BRISCOE said that, it being admitted that evils
requiring correction existed, and no attempt at rcm3dyhav-
fug been mads, he should support the amendment now
moved by the hon. and gallant admiral (Sir C. Napier).
Mr. LAING opposed the amendment, and urged that the
inquiry ought to be left in the hands of the Government in-
stead of an inconvenient and expensive commission.
Mr. J. LOCKE remarked that the promise just made
had been made by successive Boards of Admiralty eery
year since 1842. No inquiry lutd, however, been made;
the evils were not remedied, and he should cordially sup-
port the proposition of his hon. and gallant colleague.
Mr. T. HANKEY was not prepared to refer so impor-
tant a question to a commission of four or five old admirals,
and could not concur in transferring the inquiry from the
Executive Government to an indefinite body.
After a few words from Mr. SPOONER,
Sir F. T. BARING said he had considerable suspicion
of inquiries conducted by committees, and thought it better
to leave the inquiry to the Government, who should be held
responsible for providing a remedy for abuses and evils
which-were admitted to exist.
Mr. ROEBUCK supported the amendment, for he was
not prepared to leave it to the Government. The commis-
sion was wanted in order to exhibit to the house the exist-
ing- evils, and then it would be the duty of the house to
hold the Government responsible for providing a remedy.
Mr. ANGERSTEIN opposed the amendment.
The house then divided, when the numbers appeared—
For the original motion 142
For the amendment B2
Majority —OO
The house then resolved itself into a committee of
SUPPLY.
On the vote of £15,985 to defray the expenses of the
National Gallery being proposed,
Mr. CONINGHAM moved as an amendment to reduce
the vote by the sum of £650, charged as travelling ex-
penses. He reminded the committee that last year the
house had struck off the charge of £650 for the salary of tra-
velling agent, but that sum appeared in the present estimate
under the item of travelling charges, and what he asked
had been the result of this outlay for travelling charges ?
Why, eight [pictures bad been purchased at an outlay of
£3,000, and he ventured to assert that those pictures, so
far from being worth £3,000, were not worth £l5O.
Mr. W. WILLIAMS regretted that the hon. member
had limited his proposal to the striking off the charge for
travelling expenses when there was a balance of £8,500
already voted, which had not yet been expended.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER ex-
plained that the vote of £lO,OOO had been secured for five
years, and he hoped it would not now be interfered with,
especially as an important sale, that of Lord Northwick's
pictures, was on the eve of taking place. lie thought
£650 a trifling charge for travelling expenses. Next year
it might be well to take the whole subject of the National
Gallery into consideration.
After a few words from Sir C. BURRELL, which were
wholly inaudible,
Mr. DAN BY SEYMOUR inquired what arrangements
had been made by the Government for the removal of the
Royal Academy from the National Gallery to Burlington-
house. He deprecated the expense incurred by the erection
of temporary buildings at South Kensington, and asked if
the late Government had pledged their successors to any
particular plan for a permanent building.
Lord J. MANNERS reminded the hon. member that the
arrangements of the late Government had been explained
at great length by the late Chancellor of the Exchequer
many months ago.
Mr. R. SPOONER supported the amendment moved by
the hon. member for Brighton. It was notorious that this
country paid a price for pictures which was never thought
of by other countries.
Mr. TITE had seen every gallery in Europe, and was
convinced that the British National Gallery was no dis-
grace to this country. He opposed the amendment.
Mr. BENTINCK supported the amendment, and re-
marked that all these votes ought to be cut down until it
was known that the defences of the country were properly
and efficiently provided for.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had not
had an opportunity, during the short time he had been in
office, of reviewing the arrangements made by the late Go-
vernment with respect to the removal of the Royal
Academy from Trafalgar-square, or the disposal of the site
of Burlington-house.
Lord J. MANNERS said that no definite arrangement
had been made by the late Government with respect to
Burlington-house, and therefore the question was entirely
open.
Mr. STIRLING opposed the amendment, and defended
Sir Charles Eastlake from the imputations cast upon the
management of the National Gallery.
After a few words from Mr. CONINGRAM in explanation,
The committee divided. The numbers were—
For the original vote l7l
For the amendment
Majority

..----131

Mr. R. SPOONER then moved to reduce the vote by the
sum of £lO,OOO, which appeared in the estimate for the
purchase of pictures." During the last 12 years no less
than £2,000,000 had been expended under the head of arts
and sciences, and he objected to such an appropriation of
the public money, when it was proposed to make a man
earning £2 per week pay an income tax.
Mr. CLAY expressed his intention to support the pro-
posed reduction on the ground that he was dissatisfied with
the existing management of the National Gallery.
Mr. W. WILLIAMS also supported the amendment.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
on neither of the grounds urged against the vote could he
assent to its reduction as proposed.
After a few words from Mr. CONINGTIAM in support of
the proposed reduction,

The Committee divided. The numbers were—
For the original vote 136
For the amendment
Majority

-72

The original vote was then agreed to.
The next votes of £6,349 for scientific works and experi-
ments, of £5OO for the geographical society, and of £l,OOO
for the royal society, were agreed to without discussion,
and the house reserned.
The Income Tax Bill was read a second time, and ordered
to be committed to-morrow.

The Boundaries (Ireland) Bill was nal a third time and
passed.
The Local Government Supplemental Bill went through
committee and was reported with amendments.
The Dwellings for Labouring classes (Ireland) Bill also
went through committee.
The Militia Ballots Suspension Bill, and the Military
Savings Bank Bill were severally read a second time and
ordered to be committed.
The committal of the Church Rates Abolition Bill was
postponed until to-morrow.
Mr. MONSELL reporred from the Wakefield Election
Committee, that the committee had resolved that Mr. W.
H. Leatham had not been duly elected for the Borough of
Wakefield ; that the last election was a void election, and
that Mr. W. H. Leatham had by his agents been guilty
of bribery, and that corrupt practices had prevailed
at the last election, but that it did not appear that it had
been with the knowledge or consent of the sitting member.
Mr. LEFROY reported from the Dartmouth Election
Committee that Mr. Schenley had not been duly elected,
that the last election was a void election, and that Mr.
Schenley had by his agents been guilty of bribery.
The house adjourned at six o'clock.

G 0 ODWOOD RACES.-(THIS DAY.)

(BY ELECTRIC TELEGRKER.)
COW-DRAY STAKES.

Opera Dancer
Syringe
Skittles

Seven ran.
GOOD'VOOD STAKES.

Starke ....
Lifeboat ...
Blue Jacket.

1

Heiress.....
Seventeen ran. Won by half a length. Six lengths
between the second and third.
• SWEEPSTAKES OF 300 SOVS.

Qui Vive. • ,
Terrona filly

MATCH—Madrigal beat Africa.
£lOO HANDICAP PLATE.

Antonio
Queen Charlotte...
Spicebox

J
Eighteen ran.

GOODWOOD DERBY.

Promised Land
Chapelier

in ft canter.

LATEST BETTING.
GOODWOOD STAKES.
4to 1 agst Lifeboat (taken)
6to 1 agst Queen Bess (taken)
6to 1 agst Blue Jacket (taken)
100 to 8 agst Gaspard (taken)
ARRlVED.—Whitewall, Buccaneer, Southampton, and

COAST DEFENCES.—Some very heavy guns, prin-
cipally sixty-eight pounders and ten-inch shell, have just
been landed at Yarmouth, with their carriages, &c., for the
north and south batteries. A detachment of the Royal
Artillery, about twenty in number, are now busily engaged
in placing these formidable engines of destruction in posi-
tion. The erection of a town battery, near the site a the
one destroyed, and works properly defended thrown up at
the harbour's mouth would render Yarmouth secure from
a coup de main,