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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS, Mir-11.

The Loan CIIANCELLQR having taken his seat on the
Woolsack,

Lord KENYON presented a petition from Kimbolton
in favour of the Reform Bill.—Laid on the table.

HIS LORDSHIP presented a petition from Denbigh
against the new system of education in Ireland.—Laid on
the table.

The LORD CHANCELLOR presented (ieversd peti-
tions from Scotland, in favour of the Reform Bill now on
their Lordships' tahle, and thanking their Lordships for
having read that Bill a second time. He believed that
there could he no doubt as to the respectability and intel-
ligence of the petitioners. If he might venture to take
this opportunity to make a suggestion to their Lordships,
it would be, that if they did not wish to agitate the coun-
try,—that if they really and sincerely desired that the ex-
citement which now prevailed ahonld not go fnrther than
it hail done,—they would, for the foture, abstain from
those remarks which had latterly too frequently fallen from
some Noble Lords as to the petitions of this kind. He
would iiefy the wit of man to devise a more effectual means
of continuing the agitation which existed, and gathering
together those immense assemblages of which they now
heard in the present alarming crieia, than, as often as
pet,itiops were presented from public meetings, to take oc-
casion to underrate the teal of the persona attending such
meetings,to represent that either curiosity had attracted
them thither, or the desire of seeing the sights to be there
seen, and of joining in the games incidental to such an
occasion. But a still more effectual means to pro-
duce such raisehievoue results was, to pronounce such
immense sisaonblages as were at present of frequent oc-
currence, as considerably overrated in their numbers, their
amount, and their importance. While the attempt was
thus made to underrate and depreciate the importance of
those meetings, there might he exaggeration on the other
side in describing the numbers assembled w
it them, and it
might, therefore, be czzggeration to say that the. late Edit).
t.urgh meeting Wr.'s attended 69,60() or 10,000 pert ,ns,
but he the (Lorilth'anCellor) hoes, been iptce:rted by per-
mina of military experiepee, arid of I;abita whioh led them
to calcplatti with much precision the numbers that would
cover a certain space, that there could not possibly have
been so few as 40,000 persons at the late meeting in Edin-
buten. Such was the information which be had received.
He did not himself vouch for the fact, he only vouched for
the respectability and the ;eat vi the persons-assembled at
the meeting '1;1 ineziion, mid for the habits of accuracy
matters of calculation possessed by those from whom he
had derived his information. But it might be that they
were wrong;
it might be that there were not 40,090 or
30,,100 persons at this meeting it Might be that the
ise nurc,heis of the Whole meeting were so few as 8,000
but admitting that it might be so, he took it to be one of
the barest and must !emote possibilities that had ever been
imagined—.(A Lugh, and cries of " Hear,'')—only to be
exceeded
by the still mere absurd statement for there
was nothing so absurd that you will net find some-
thing still
more so) that the whole meeting consisted of
but 700 perser,s.—fieaz, hear.) or this he was quite
certain, that if their • Loidships should contine to decry
meeti,fitls of thii deadiption iita this mannar, and should
endeavour to diruinieli 1,14ir amount and importance by
such et;taw,"a,_atatensents which they no doubt had
received from individuals on whose accuracy they relied,
but statements which they should know themselves to be I
well-founded before they made them,---f ;44. Lordships I
should continue to act in thr.t way.; (se.y [flight depend
upon it that they ran
riti of leaving a
very alarming
ginn tta their representations.—(Loud cries
tat " ear, hear.")
He had a petition now to present to
their lordships, which would prevent the possibility of any
such statements being hazarded wit;-., :cord to it, on
account of the number of sionatures attached to it. It
was a petitio:. ;razz the town and neighbourhood of Shef-
field. It 'cold(' not be said that it had been adopted or
signed by 700, or by 8,000 persons, though no doubt
spch assertions would have been made were not the sig-
natures to the petition so numerous as to prevent the
possibility of such a statement being for a moment hazarded.
The petition, which was in favour of the Reform Bill, was

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signed by 29,200 persons.—(Hear.) He would make n,
further comment on that petition, but let it speak for itself
(Hear.) He was one of those who did not wish to see suek
immense assemblages as bad lately been witnessed in thi
country, but as long as such meetings continued to be held
he hoped that the business of them would be carried on
,s the business of those hitherto held had been, peaceably
quietly, and without the slightest approach to disturbant e
iif any kind.—(Hear, hear.) He was able to corroborre
the statement of a Noble Friend opposite as to Vie peace-
able manner in which the great Meeting at Edinburgh had
been conducted, by mentioning the fact that there was not,
on the day on which it met, a single police case its the city
of Edinburgh connected with that meeting. His hop.
therefore was, that such meetings wonld continue b,
he holden with the same moderation, quietness, and peace,
is they had hitherto been carried on ; and the least cer-
tain way to promote the holding of such meetings was to
endeavour to underrate the numbers assembled at them.
and to describe those who congregated there as scarcely
connected with the business of the Meeting.
Lord NAPIER presented a petition from Morpeth in
avour of the Reform Bill. He would take this oppor-
unity to express his hope that the wishes of the petitioner •
and that the Rill, notwithstanding the wily machinations
of its enemies, would soon be passed. He trusted that that
crying evil, the system of nomination boroughs, would he
put an end "to, and that the principle of disfranchisement,
without which the measure would be at a ought, would he
•rq,ne.l. The r,-.2,Jui t ssFi. ty an be true to
itself to insure tbespeedy success of the measure.—(Cheers. )
The Duke of DEVONSHIRE presented some petitions
in favour of Reform; but we did not catch the names of
the places from whi:th they came.

The Earl of CAWDOR presented a petition from Ban-
bury in favour of the Reform Bill.
The Duke of HAMILTON presented petitions in fa-
vour of the Reform Bill from the Glasgow Political
Union ; from the Corporation of Trades in the Royal
Burgh of Lanark ; from the inhabitants of Lanark, New
Lanark, an •l its vicinity, and from other places in Scot-
land. As the Reform Bill was not now before the House,
he should not make any observations on it, but would re-
serve what he had to say for another occasion. He would
only say this, that his feelings and opinions with regard to
that measure remained unchanged, and that he could not
sit down witheut earnestly imploring their Lordships,
when they came to consider this measure again, as they
probably would soon have to do, to consider it in reference
to the important and momentous crisis in which they
stood. It was not the safety alone of their Lordships,
but of the whole empire, that was at stake in this instance.
(Hear, hear.)

. .
Lord DURHAM presented a petition in favour of the
Reform Bill, from a place near Dumbarton, and men-
tioned, as an instance of the " reaction" that had taken
place, that this petition was signed by 200 mote than had
signed the former petition from the same place, it havin;.
attached to it :,160 signatures.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, M4r 11.
Lord EBRINGTON presented a petition from the
county of Devon, signed by seventy Maeistrates, two
hundred clergymen, and nine thousand inhabitant. of that
county, against the new arum of education in Ireland.
He did not believe that it expressed the opinion of th-
-najority of his constituents, though it was numerously and
respectably signed; he differed in opinion from the peti-
tioners ; ho considered that the Government were entitled
to the thanks of the country for the introduction of the
ateiupure:

Mr. PR AED was certain that the Noble Earl would
nod he had been misinformed. He believed that this pe-
tition really spoke the opinion of a •ery large majority of
his constituents.

Mr. JOHN WOOD bad a petition to present to the
House, in the prayer of which he most cordially agreed. It
prayed that that House would stop the supplies until the
Reform till had passed into a law. The petition CAMP
roan the large and important town of Manchester.—
(Cheers.) It was adopted at a! meeting, one of
those vulgar assemblies of which the 'Hon. Member for
Thetford bnd spoken so contemptuouslit: 'A
copy of The
Sun had been received in the town by express in a very
few hours after tha division in the Lords, and within a
few hours this meeting was held, at which upwards of
2,500 people attended, and this petition was the result.
So anxious was the feeling in that town, that immediately
on the meeting's breaking up, a deputation was sent off
with the petition, which was intended for the hands of the
county Members, but they happening to meet with hiu.
first had intrusted it to him, of which he felt very proud.
The King had in an ev:l hour delivered himself over to
some faction—some party, whether a man or a woman—
(Hear, hear)—he cared not, but he claimed to himself
the privilege of a Member of the House of Com-
mons to tell the King that he could not remain the
Chief Magistrate of the country, supported only by a
boroughmoogering faction and opposed to the people. It
Parliament did not do its duty, the people would do
theirs—if that House did not Cop the aupplies, the
Chancellor of the Exchequer would soon find his coffers
would no longer he supplied. A report had been going
round that that House was to be dissolved next week—he
would thank any Minister who would do so, for it would
give the people an opportunity of showing that they had not
known what the reaction, of which so moich had been heard
in that House, was. It would only be considered the Act
of a madman, a ore especially if that map ;bold be either
one of the Anti-Reform factiop, uc if be belonged to that
of the false and deceitful " Waveeers.''

Mr. BEI'W6OD supported the petition.
Mr. JAMES rose to support the petition. Whilst hr
had a seat in that House, be never would consent to givr
a shilling of supply until the Reform Bill, i; all its effi•
ciency, had passed. He heard that the bu'ke of Wellington
was to be Prime 11Unistei, and that Parliament was to he
dissolvi:d on Monday, and that this country was to
be governed by a Military Government.—(H ,I.lz, bear.)
But if soldiers were sent against thei.7 fe'44ovi- countrymen,
swords, bayonets, and dung?...i,ne, could net c,,mpiel that
House to greet aopplies. He. did notwig;;Oat the
people of England,should arm themytott, there would
be no need fdr it.—(Hear.) Without a drop of blow.;
being shed they lakd itn. tams of securing their own rights
and libeliea,

Colonel EVANS said he had come from one of those
meetings which the Hon. Member for Thetfor4 denomi-
nated vulgar.

Mr. BARING disclAimpi haxing weed, thoae expressions
with the apniiiAtion and meaniug aticribed to them.
Colonel E yANS, said, that e. the meeting he had at-
tendril this morniv,g, the preposition not to pay taxes it
money htd Bien propounded, and never had any proposi-
tion tact with apparently a more hearty and determined
concurrence.—(Hear, hear ) Allusion had ben made
to a great military chief diced
'of
at • the bead
of Government ; the less uet that illustrious
person's goverrtroeut., about two years ago, was the
preparing of 'a
military force to be brought into
employment in the city of London. He evneatly hoped
that would not be amongst the .sari exploynienta of
his Grace's Governmen *
,t,,skt.9 he ttofortunotely be placed
' at the bead of bilk Maj,esty's.counc-ih
After 4 desnito,ry convorsatien, in which Mr. Huur
and tar. BtaftiNce took part,
Mr, HUME stated, that he had been requested by
deputation to support the petition, and kfzer havint
heard it read carefully, he ent;reiy agreed wit}.
them as to the measure they pointed out. He was
quite satisfied that, not,vithatanding what tLe Hoo.
Aleinber for 'l'hetford. haaatated, with respect to unnecessai3
excitement anti clamour, that the country was in imminent
danger, and he was not one who thought the best friend n.
the Sovereign, and the best protector of the Crown shoulo
endeavour to make it permanent by a military fcgce, but b 3
establishing it in the hearts of trtke slid loyal sub
jects, and undoubtedly it wee tits duty of the Commons
of England receiyin4 prtitipna, smut) as that now presentee
by the Hon; Mernhee to listen to their prayers, and cont,,ti-
, tutionallY to exeroiee that power which they pssesseu
of prayeatlng such evil by refusing the So,pOiej.
Mr. DUNCOMBE was anl„io'4l Co ask a questior
in consequence of the exci,tcol Mate of the public mind, ant:
in consequence ?j,' veitorts extremely injurious ttt the poli-
tical co.,,qiuiency of that Right Hon. B.gc.net (Peel) has-
;Mg gained circulation to--day. V•reoedents, every on,
knew, whether good sad, in that House, we,,
extremely inn:tom:lt, (Hear, hear.) The preceden
upon which, he would go now, was that of 1812, whet
a question was asked of. Mr. Por.aonby by Mr. Wortley
He would ask the Right Hon. Baronet the question I.
the very words which Mr. Wortley bad need on the let r.
June, 1812—(A laugh)—when the new Administratio..
Nits being formed--.(Hear, hear, hear)—whether ar,
person or persons up to this morning did make
proposition to the Right Hon. Gent, or kis friends to foru