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that not only e%isted in it as of so much extrinsic worth, but
carrying-with it the privilege of being inheritable. It was a
property that descended to the lower classes of the people, and
they might look with a feeling of equality upon the proudest
Peer in the kingdom.
Lord HATUERTON opposed the amendment, and depre-
crwld a collision with the other House of Parliament.
The Earl of CA UNA h VON could not c,ncetve on what
ground kit th,t of they could defend their own
';f* the} refused to listen to the claims of others. He
sitef.l protection to be extended to the lowest as well as to
the I',ighest.
After a few words, which did not reach us, from the Earl
of LIMERICK,

Viscount MELBOURNE should not press the amend-
ment to a division.

The clause was then ordered to stand part of the Bill.
Lord LYNDHURST then proposed the inertion of a
clause to the effect that the town-clerk of every borough
should, on or before (a date to be named) make out a
list to be called the Freemen's Roll, containing the names of
:Al burgesses or freemen in every borough; claiming to be
admitted as such, in respect of birth or servitude, and that
any person should be at liberty to inspect such rolls free ,1
expense, or take a copy, on payment of a reasonable sum.
Lord BROUG HAM would not oppose the motion. H
merely rose to suggest to his Noble and Learned Friend the
expediency of reconsidering his clauses, as it struck him they
were at present inconsistent. The last of the clauses, he
thought, ought to be put first. He deprecated them both as
retaining the very worst parts of the old system; however,
as they had been agreed to, it was too late to complain of
them. He was very sorry to find from the speech of his
Noble and Learned Friend, that in his old age he was be-
coming a Repealer. Certainly nothing was more like a Re.
peal speech than a complaint that the Irish and Scotch Mem-
bers had not left their English brethren to decide upon the
present A laugh. )
Lord LYNDHURST had only to complain of one word in
the Noble and Learned Lord's observations, and that was the
word which conveyed the charge of old age. —( A laugh.)
Lord MELBOURNE wished to know if the Noble Lord's
amen•lment was intended to preserve the rights of freemen for
municipal purposes?
Lord LYNDHURST replied in the negative. He in-
tended to add words to a subsequent clause more fully explain..
ing big intention. _

-On clause 4 (the boundary regulation clause) being pro-
P*sq—

The Duke of WELLINGTON objected to making the
Parliamentary bounds of the boroughs in schedules A and B
the bounds for municipal purposes. Its effect would be to
throw a portion of the county rates on persons at present
rated for municipal purposes, and, vice versa, to impose muni-
cipal rates on persons now liable to county rates. A con-
siderable portion of the inhabitants of several boroughs would
thus have to endure a double liability, which he need not ob-
serve would be a great injustice. He also objected to the pro-
vision empowering his Majesty in Council to fix the metes and
bounds of some of the boroughs. He thought it would be
much better that that should be done by Parliament, on the
boundary Commissioners sending in their report. Under
these circumstances he would propose to their Lordships to
strike out clauses 4 and 5, and in their stead to introduce a
clause providing the metes and bounds of the several boroughs
in schedules A and B should remain the same as they at pre-
sent were unless Parliament should otherwise determine.

Viscount MELBOURNE observed, that the effect of the
amendment would be the exclusion of a considerable portion of
each borough from the operation of the Bill for twelve months.
In many instances the existing bounds went right through the
centre of the borough, and, consequently, if they were con-
tinued, one half of such borough would be without the juris-
diction of its magistracy.
Lord AT HERT 0 N opposed the amendment.
The Earl of DEVON was favourable to the amendment.
Before the Parliamentary bounds were adopted for Municipal
purposes, it ought to be considered whether the suburban in-
habitants would be favourable to the increased rate which
would be imposed on them.
Atter a tew words from the Duke of RICHMOND and
Lord WHARNCLIFFE,
Lord BROUG HAM observed, that the amendment was
neither more or less than a proposition for the postponement
of the measure for twelve months. He was decidedly opposed
to it.

Lord ASHBURTON thought the only inconvenience the
amendment could effect would be the limitation of the ma-
gisterial jurisdiction to the old bounds, until the new ones
were defined.

Lord HATHERTON thought the discussion of the amend-
ment ought to be postponed until the House came to consi-
der the schedules.

Tbe Duke of WELLINGTON would not agree to the
postponement.
The clause was then agreed to, with the amendment, " That
the boundaries shall remain as they are at present until Par-
liament shall otherwise determine."

Clause 5 was.postponed.
Clauses 7 and 8 were agreed to.
As the next clause was likely to cause some discussion the
House resumed, and the further consideration in Committee
was postponed until to-morrow (this day).—Adjourned at a
Quarter to Twelve o'clock.

LIST OF THE MINORITY
Of 37, who voted last night against the Amendment of Lord Lynd-
burst, for preserving in perpetuity the rights of Freemen.
Auckland Erroll i ichfield
Giese; Poltimore Brougham and Vaux
Marquis Lansdowne Templemore Teynham
Melbourne Save and Sele , Chichester
Holland Marquis Qaeensbeiry Duke of Richmond
Hatherton Seaford Stradbroke
Mint° Sefton Bishop of Limerick
Marquis Clanricarde Plunket Bishop of Bristol
Howard of Effingham Stradbrd I B shop of Chichester
Le trim Marquis Conyngham I Bishop of Hereford
Marquis Headford Torrington
Burlington Marquis Westminster
Albemarle Mostyn

TELLER.
Radnor

CORPORATION REFORM BILL.

GREENWICH BILL.
Yesterday evening, at seven o'clock, a very numerous and
respectable meeting of the inhabitants of Greenwich was held
at the Mitre Tavern, for the purpose of expressing their opi-
nion as to the late determination of the House of Lords re-
specting the Municipal Corporations Reform Bill, and coming.
to such resolutions upon the subject as might be deemed ex-
pedient in the circumstances of the case.

Mr. FISHER, the returning-officer was in the chair.
The CHAIRMAN stated the object of the meeting, and re-
quested that they should give a patient bearing to every ono
wishing to address them.

The—meeting was successively addressed by Messrs. Anger-
stein, M.P. ; Bernard, M. P. ; White, Smith, Borrett, Powell,
Paine, &c. ; when resolutions and a petition to the House of
Lords in conformity with the object of the meeting, were ulti-
mately carried.

MARY LEB ONE.

Yesterday afternoon a great meeting, convened by the
Marylebone Vestry, was held in the Workhouse-yard, for the
purpose of petitioning the House of Lords for the immediate
passing of the Municipal Corporation Reform Bill.
Sir WM. DE BATHE was unanimously called to the Chair ;
and both the Members for the borough were present.
The CHAIRMAN having opened the business of the day,
Mr. WAY MOUTH rose to move the first resolution. If any
proof were wanting of the necessity of petitioning the House
of Lords, it might be found in a speech made by a Member
of that House on the previous evening. He had said, " That
the House of Lords was now very differently situated to what
it was when the Reform Bill was passed. The pressure from
without was now removed, and they had regained their elasti-
city and independence."—( Laughter.) This pressure from
without was the constitutional right of the people to petition,
and which they-must now exercise if they desired to have the
Corporation Reform Bill passed unmutilated.—( Hear.) After
-noticing the attacks made upon the Commissioners of that Bill,
and stating that he was personally acquainted with them, and
knew them to be gentlemen of the strictest honour and inte-
grity, he moved the resolution, and sat down amidst cheering.
Mr. BOWRING seconded the resolution, which was carried
unanimously.
Mr. NELMES moved the second resolution. The Lords pre-
tended to have much regard for the poor freemen.—( Laugh-
ter.) Yes, it was that sort of regard evinced by Judas Isca-
riot when he kept the purse.--( Loud laughter.) The majo-
rity of the Lords opposed to this Bill were titled priests—
titled oligarchs, and titled paupers—( Hear, hear)--and yet
they dare to oppose the rights and liberties of the people.-
-( Hear.) He could but admire the bold front that had been
shown by Lord Melbourne—(Cheers)—against these men.
He trusted that the people would use every exertion to enforce
the passing of the Bill.—( Cheers. )
Mr. DODD seconded the resolution. The resolution was
carried unanimously.
Mr. REDWARD. a member of the Society of Friends, came
forward to propose the third resolution.
Mr. WILSON seconded the resolution.
The CHAIRMAN then put the resolution, which was carried
unanimously amidst much cheering.
Mr. SAVAGE moved the next resolution. The House of
Peers had by process of time become incapable of acting
their part with dignity.—(Hear.) By the diminution of
intelligence among the Lords, which arose from the breed-
ing in and in principle established among the aristocracy,
they failed to see that which the whole country saw—
( Hear)---and they impeded that which the whole country
loudly called for.—( Hear.) Let, however, the Lords con-
sider that the country could do without them—( Cheers)—
but the Lords could not do without the country.—( Hear.)
Mr. KENSETT seconded the resolution.
Sir Saartsti, WHALLEY then came forward amidst loud
cheering, The Lords, in hearing evidence against the Bill,
pretsinded ignorance of facts with which they had been mixed
up for half a century.—( Hear.) And he had thought that
their Lordships would have declined hearing evidence, lest
the facts elicited might have, as judges, convicted there-
selves,--( Laughter.) Their Lordships had reduced the
Corporations to degradation; they had seduced them into
crime, and yet, monstrous as it was, they sat as judges on
the very criminal they had seduced.—( Cheers.) Was not
this a mockery of justice? And to be displayed, too, by
the highest court of justice in the country.—( Hear.) If
the Lords did not pass this measure he was satisfied that
they would be inflicting a most fatal blow at their existence
as a branch of the Legislature ; that the hand would go
forth and write on the wall " that they have been weighed
in the balance and found wanting," and that their dominion
had passed into other hands.—( Cheers. )
Mr.. H. L. Bctiv ER, M. P., in rising to address the meeting,
perfectly agreed with all that had fallen from his Hon. Col-
!Wye- He feerod that every question that received the sanc-
tit or the geor. mak of the pboge was destiad tp be