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which he wag connected had, at one time, 25,000 voters
—and then font individuals could return whomsoever
they pleased, but now not one hundred, if they combined
could successfully oppose the general feeling of the county,
although now they had but 900.—(Hear, bear.) On
this subject he entertained a strong opinion, and should
certainly submit a motion respecting it at a future op-
portunity._
_ .

Mr. MULLINS then, on making the motion of which
he had given notice, addressed a few observations to the
Committee, which were not beard in the gallery. His
motion was to the effect, that holders of terms for nineteen
years, of the value of 20/., should be entitled to vote for
counties.

Mr. STANLEY objected to the motion, that it would
lead to fraud and collusion. lie thought the Irish Bill
WAS already more liberal to leaseholders thin the English
Bill, and therefore he could not assent to the motion.
' Some conversation here took place between Mr. Ilumx,
Mr. SrANLEr, and Mr. O'CONNELL, relative to the
number of freeholders in Ireland, correcting a mistake
which had occurred in a previous part of the evening.
Mr. HUME asked for explanation.

Mr. STANLEY said he could not tell what number of
voters there would be in the counties after the Bill had
passed.
Mr. O'CONNELL said, that, allowing every possible ad-
vantage to his opponents. there would not he 30,000 voters
in all the counties of Ireland. With respect to the pre-
sent motion he wished it had not been made in its present
shape.
Mr. SHEIL said if the Right Hon. Gentleman could
not tell what number of leaseholders there would be in
counties, why did he take in 201. profit instead of 10/. ?
He supposed that the Right Hon. Gentleman would say,
that it would give a certain number of constituency—
when the Right Hon. Gentleman did not know.
Colonel CONNOLLY said that the reason why the
constituency was so small was the agitation of the Hon.
and Learned Member for Kerry. That made the land-
lords limit the constituency, and made them averse from
granting leases. The Hon. and Learned Member had
introduced an intestine war between landlords and tenants,
and had led to a limitation of the constituency.
Mr. O'CONNELL said, those who went about preach.
ing sermons, filled with calumny, were the causes of dis-
sension in Ireland, and all his labours to prevent it were
almost unavailing.—(A laugh.) The conspiracy among
the landlords, described by the Hon. and Gallant Officer,
to limit the constituency, ought to make the House lower
the qualification.
Mr. RUTHVEN thought the persons to whom the
elective franchise was proposed to be given by the Hon.
Mover, were more independent than the 50/. tenants at
will in England, and had superior clams to the franchise.
He therefore supported the motion.
Mr. MULLINS, in reply, said that it was impossible
the opponents of the motion could be aware of the real
amount of the qualification required for Ireland.
The House then divided, when there appeared—
For the amendment
Against it l6l
Majority
Lord ALTHORP proposed that the Chairman should
report progress, and ask leave to sit again on Monday next.
Mr. GRATTAN protested against the delay of the Irish
Bill.
Lord ALTHORP said the delay was not his fault ; if
every discussion were to stop the progress of the Bill, he
could not postpone those Bills which were to perfect the
machinery for England and Scotland.
The House then resumed, the Chairman reported pro.
greys, and obtained leave to sit again on Monday next.
THE JURIES (INDIA) BILL.

Mr. C. GRANT moved the third reading of this Bill.
After sonic conversation, the Bill was read a third time
and passed.

SCOTCH REFORM BILL.

The report on this Bill was received ; the Bill was re-
committed for some verbal amendments ; and the House
having resumed, the report of the Committee was received,
and ordered to ite taken into further consideration on Fri-
day next.