The Sun.
London, England, 1835-08-24 00:00:00

ORANGE LODGES.

Col. VERNER presented a petition from the Grand
Orange Lodge of Ireland, complaining of the formation of
the Orange Lodge Committee, and charging it with partial
conduct. It also prayed that the Committee should be re-
sumed, and ordered to prosecute their enquiries further, and
give the Lodges an opportunity of defending themselves.
Mr. RUTH VE N defended the Committee. The witnesses
were sent for in shoals, and many were never at all examined,
and were not intended to be so.

Colonel PE RCE VAL said the Hon. Gentleman had been
most grossly misinformed. The witnesses before that Com-
mittee had been economized as far as possible, and had been
kept in Ireland till they , were wanted. He hoped the in-
quiry would be continued, and it would be found that there was
not a more loyal body than the Orangemen.
Mr. RONA YNE presented a petition from Ardagh, pray-
ing for the abolition of tithes, which in that parish amounted
to one• sixth of the value.
Mr
sCHOLE FIELD presented a petition from Birming-
Mr. MORGAN O'CONNELL presented a petition from a
ham against the Patent Laws' Bill.
parish in the county of Meath, praying for poor laws for Ire-
land.

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IRISH TITHES.
Col. PERCE VAL presented three petitions from parishes
in Ireland against the Irish Tithe Bill, and one from the over..
seers of deserted children of the parish of Kinsale, in the
county of Tyrone, praying for reimbursement, which last peti-
tion the Hon. Member moved should be referred to the Com-
mittee on Irish Poor Laws.

Mr. Sergeant JACKSON presented a petition from Dub-
lin, numerously signed, complaining that the petitioners were
set upon at a public meeting by a gang of ruffians, with blud-
geons and other weapons, and severely beaten and injured.
He did not wish to provoke any discussion upon it, but it was a
sufficient answer to the observations which the Hon. Member
(Mr. Ruthven) made the other night.
Mr. RUTHVEN bad not complained of the conduct of
the petitioners, but of the Learned Sergeant designating them
as consisting of the scum of the earth.
Mr. Sergeant JACKSON said he had already explained to
the House that he used that expression in reference only to
those who had been guilty of tho outrages committed.
Mr. RUTHVgN believvd that the .14e4rne4 Gentlemen did

not mean to include the petitioners. The petition prayed the
House to appoint a Select Committee to inquire into the
facts of the meeting held at the Coburg Gardens. Did the
Learned Sergeant think it necessary to send a Commission to
Ireland for this purpose? The petition could not bear examine
ing—it spoke of wicked plots, and such nonsense, which he
was sure would have no effect on the House.
Colonel PE RC E VAL said that the petition was signed
most numerously and most respectably. He differed with the
Hon. Member opposite altogether in the estimation in which
he held the petitioners.

Mr. O'CONNELL considered the petition totally unwor-
thy the attention of the House. At the meeting at which it
was got up, the Orangemen had conducted themselves in a
manner totally unheard of. _

Mr. HUME thought the petition undeserving the attention
of the House. He had received a letter from a person who
was present on the occasion of the meeting, who described the
conduct of the Orangemen there as most disgraceful.
Mr. RONAYNE said, that was not the first occasion upon
which the person called the Reverend Johnny M'Crea had in-
terrupted the citizens of Dublin in holding public meetings.
A meeting had been called by the citizens, in December last,
at the Royal Exchange, at which the Reverend Mr. M'Crea
intruded, with his Orangemen, and, probably, the impunity
with which he had been treated on that occasion, had induced
him to make the last unsuccessful attempt.
Mr. SHE IL would state one fact. There Ras an Orange
Lodge in the 35th regiment. That regiment was at present
quartered in Templemore, and he (Mr. Shiel) had received
a letter from the Rev. John Hefferman, stating that a short
time since the men belonging to the Orange Lodge paraded
the streets at night with their bayonets drawn, and expressed
a wish to meet with a Roman Catholic clergyman, that they
might put him to death. They broke the windows of several
of the respectable inhabitants, and committed other excesses.

Mr. HUME observed that evidence had been laid before
the Committee that an Orange Lodge existed in that Regi.
ment.

Colonel PE RCEVAL thought the Hon. and Learned
Member for Tipperary must be mistaken relative to the number
of the regiment.
Mr. SHE IL was not mistaken. The warrant was not an
Irish one. The 35th Regiment held under a warrant from the
English Grand Lodge.
Lord SANDON presented a petition signed by 3,000 inha-
bitants of Coventry, the prayer of which did not reach the
Gallery.