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dom was for ever gone ; that a sober disgust towards
wanton change was rapidly superseding the passion for
it which had been produced by the opium-eating ex-
cesses of the last twelvemonth; that Conservatism, in
other weds, contentment with old national in-
stitntions, and with those statesmen who Stoed
forward in their defence, was 1 esienning , its 'ac-
customed ascendancy over tlhe Minas t'ytglisli-
men ; and that the at.r rot 'MIA li'li-eac4 working its way
into the foundatiets of the Movement power. This,
we tepee* Yt*ist not be. The Whigs and their masters
are aVviite of it. They have even now, befere tte ac-
tual prorogation of Parliament. dieez:Neil their game.
We are to be kept in boilietr; Water until the session of
1836 commences t the popular craving for promiscuous
innovation is to be spurred and stimulated hay AR Van-
'ter of knavish devices—the insufgeivettvid the Muni-
cipal Reform Bill—the bliOtal promise of the Irish
Church Plunder Bill--that birth-strangled babe the
Irish Corporation Bill—the numberless delinquencies
of the House of Lords—the. guileless inneitence and
angelic purity of those celestial beings the Popish
priests of Ireland I—upon these, upon one and all of
these, the changes are to he rung without ceasing ; reatg,
mark you, in the ears of Englishmen, thretighout the
towns, the public halls, the big-rooneed taverns of this
island, and echoed through the pot-houses and alleys,
and other conduits of ~dition, by its basest and most
low-priced hirelings. This, this is what we mall be
told is getting knowledge cheap ! This is the diffusion of
wholesome knowledge among the labouring classes of
Great Britain.. Through this kind of knowledge the
best and bravest men in the country are to be diurnally
defamed. The intemperate among the Conservatives
are to get no credit for their honesty, nor the saga-
cious aiid far-sighted for their wistiom. All ate to
be alike slandered and made odious to their country-
, men. Was there ever any thing more unprincipled
or atrocious than the attacks made in the same column
of the revolutionary prints, upon the Lords for their
hateful tyranny in amending the Municipal Reform
Bill—and on Sir Robert Peel, for his hypocrisy an
hundred times more hateful, in declaring his calm
condemnation of some of those amendments. Is it the
spirit of the new system that no politician from, whom
we differ can by physical possibility be an honest '
man ? Because Sir Robert Peel enumerated in his
speech at Tamworth the liberal and beneficial measures
which lie had been prepared to bring forward as Minis-
ter, and stated his confidence that they were such as would
have carried with them the approval of the other
branch of the Legislature, he is charged on one side
with a cheap ostentation of purposes which he never
entertained, and on the other the character of his mea-
sures is maligned, because of his belief that the House
of Lords would have passed them, as if that or any
other assembly of reasonable men might not honour-
ably, as well as justly, place more reliance on one
Minister (even a Conservative) whom they esteemed,
than on another (even a Red al-supported Whig),
whom, from experience-, they feared as a tamperer
with the foundations of the Monarchy ! We warn
our friends and plain dealing countrymen of these
wicked practices by which they are about to be as-
san'ited. We tell them that all the quacks, the ruffians,
the cheats, the desperadoes in the kingdom, are shar-
pening their weapons and tucking up their sleeves for
this work. We tell them that O'Connell is in the
field, a new field, for Ireland is already full cropped
with tares and brambles of his sowing. The fresh ,around H
to be broken by this father of mischief lies here. e has
got up invitations, or his creatures, the Whigs, have for
him, from many chief towns in the north of England
and in Scotland, to public, that is, political dinners.
Liverpool, Manchester, Edinburgh, Cillegow, are each
to be so honoured—towns, the richest and most intel-
ligent in the empire, after, though we see by the names
and other particulars mentioned in the programmata of
these threatened orgies, that property and intelligence
will have little intercourse with them, and that the
outeourings of slander and malignity will be the most
copious libations of the high priest whom they have
called upon to officiate. Yet such disgraceful cere-
monies will of course be described by the organs of
the Movement everywhere as indicating the true poli-
tical faith of the country, and will serve the Whig
partners in the humbug for a pretext whereon to
justify the most prostrate subserviency to the facti-
tious clamours of the Radicals thus leagued with and
led by O'Connell. However, let them beware—lre-
land, in the language of the police reporters, is lq this
time pretty well cleaned out -of her O'Connell tribute.
She has had almost enough of it. Perhaps the
Agitator is of opinion that she had better lie
fallow for a year for the sake of the next years's pro-
duce—perhaps he may try the operation of.money-
making, as well as speech-making, on this side the
water. Have a care, Sawney, that this Irish marauder
does not levy black mail upon you. He is an unto'
chiel. We hope the public have paid a due tax of
admiration to the steadiness and independence of those
confidants of the Ministry who so late as Saturday last
denounced them to the infernal gods, if they should
disgrace themselves and outrage the people of Eng-
land, by accepting from the hands of the House of
Lords a Bill of Corporate Reform so mutilated, that it
was worse than no Bill at all, and therefore called upon
Ministers peremptorily to reject it, but have, since
Monday last, when they found " which way the wind
blew," been vexing the ears of the public with assu-
rances that it was the wisest and most patriotic thing
in the world to make the best of the bargain, bad as it
was ; and that Ministers deserved great praise for the
moderation and good sense of their temporary submis-
sion to their Lordships I And these are the men who
abuse the Times for inconsistency I—Times.
We sincerely hope that the retainers of Ministers
will ere long be instructed, if it be only for the sake
of decency, to refrain from their present morning and
evening song about a Reform of the House of Lords.
Have not the Whigs already given us a Reform of the
House of Commons, which, according to them, was
to correct every abuse, to remove every anomaly, to
silence every complaint in relation to the practice and
operation of the British Constitution ? And are they
to be trusted with the execution of further reforms
who, by the very fact of seeking such a power, confess
that the changes they have hitherto accomplished have
not attained the purposes which they professed to hayti
in view ? Why should the House. of Lord; be IT,
formed if the reform of the House of c:inmons hti
not a failure ? Why, if the latter lue a tailure, should
its authors be any longer ►t.:-..stect by the people? it
is said that the He Lords
,ase of is trot hi harmony
with the He-,- se of Commons, and that it is necessary
for
welfare of the country that these two powers
in the Constitution should be in harmony. The lat.
tet proposition is a permanent and essential truth.
The former may, for what we yet know, be only a
temporary and accidental fact. But, supposing the
proposition that the House of Lords and the House
of Commons are discordant bodies to be necessarily
and permanently true, it by no means follows that the
House of Lords ought to be reformed—it by no means
follows that the House of Lords, as at present con-
stituted and endowed, is a body less necessary to the
general welfare of the community, or less anxious or
capable to produce it, than the House of Commons.
All that can logically be deduced from this fact is, that
the authors of the Reform Bill were so stupid as to
misconceive, or so dishonest as to conceal, the
natural consequences of their own measure. Before
the Reform Bill we heard nothing of collision. Until
that measure had passed, the three branches of our
harmonious and constitutional Legislature governed
the country, we do not say with perfect wisdom, we
do not say with perfect virtue—for what human in-
stitution was ever perfect ?—but we may be permitted
at least to say with so much of wisdom and of virtue
as secured to the nation the advantages of internal
peace ; of as large a share of happiness as has ever
fallen to the lot of any people ; of progressive and, to
all human appearance, boundless, prosperity. Why,
then, we again ask, when dealing with matters so im-
portant as the peace, happiness, and prosperity of a
nation, did not the authors of the Reform Bill tell us
when they were prosecuting that .measure that their
reform of the House of Commons must of necessity be
followed by a reform of the House of Lords ? Is it
fit that a nation should be defrauded of a Constitution
under which it has for many generations enjoyed a
degree of peace, happiness, and prosperity seldom
afforded to the inhabitants of any region upon eartl ,
by a series of manoeuvres artfully cuutrived so its to

produce each other in predetermined succession ? Or,
assuming that the Reform Bill was not artificially
constructed, with the intention that it bhuuld pterge
the way for revolutions is it It bri
thtt the At stiinies 14\riiY, Mt. inh to fekr
AriA latire hißie 6.61'n .Illy possible change, should
be eWtiikstM to the hands of mensol)lilni,, ,
and ignorant, as not to know the cousmuenCeS of dicer
own measures, or so ..reCklA Nr! unprincipled as
to proppse I.WiA.L•‘‘':-es of organic change without hav-
inf; ueliberately weighed their probable effects ?
We might leave the present Ministers of the Crown
and their organs of the Press ettinte themselves
from this dilemm4A as they can, but we will' be
getter Cal enough to point out the mode in which we
incline to think (and we own " our wish. P.' ‘",a'liier to
the thought") they may_es,,,..l".i leom it. A democratic
reform of the INVise of Lords will not appear from
anyth4.4 'drat has yet passed to be necessary to restore
that Noble Assembly to harmony with the teaailed
House of Commons, unlesl it b'e a 'Permanent and essen-
tial ehardeteritlitiottlie latter, in consequence of the Re-
form Pt, lhat its majority is for ever to consist of, or to
be guided by, such men as Mr. Hume, Mr.
Mr. Wakley, and Mrs R.Cebiiellti. It is clear enough
that the Reform Ministers cannot be extricated from
the dilemma above described if these Hon. Members,
or others of similar disposition and capacity, MT per=
manently to sway the councils of the Lower House. In
-this case, indeed, the House of Lords must be reforined
—reformed with a vengeance—so refohned that it shall
assimilate in disposition and akpaoity with Mr. Hume,
Mr. O'Connell, M. Wakley, and Mr. Roebuck. A
thorough tdorm will then, indeed, be necessary to make
dye other institutions of the State harmonise Veitii the
House of Commons—a reform, not ofthe House of Lords
only, but of the House or Lords, and the Crown and the
Church, and the colonial system, and the public debt,
and the bench of justice, and the laws of property,
and the sense of integrity, and the sentiment of
honour, and of everything, in short, that ~tapes Eng-
land -England. The reform reqUired ill such circum-
stances and for such h purpose must be complete,
radical, universal) sparing nothing, respecting nothing,
effacin sil the moral, and intellectual, and social
landmarks of an old and distinguished nation, or dis-
locating in the vain attempt to efface? providing rot
the British people, if its success sll4Sillt be partial or
imperfect—inextricable nAisiiin in the place of
order—civil strife as c 1 41113gitute for the internal tran-
quillity we hate hitherto enjoyed—a general scramble
for the possession and enjoyment of whatever men
desire, instead of that security for the fruits of his
industr-
his talent,or his enterprise, which, under the
tiominion of eqnal laWs, now the birth-right of every
individual ; and if its success should be complete, pro-
curing foi ti,, as its highest and proudest achievement,
in selichange for the evils of our present condition, the
valuable privileges and immunities of tiew settlers in
an unknown land. rot so extensive a reform the
British people are not yet, we believe, quite prepared.
They are so far, indeed, from thinking it worth their
while to incur so much injury or danger, for the sake
of securing the Parliamentary services of those whose
presence in the House of Commons alone renders it
difficult for the House of Lords and the House of
Commons to agree, that, among all the Members of
the latter assembly who have breathed a wish for any
change in the constitution of the former, there is
scarcely one who is not an M.P. upon sufferance—a
Representative of whom his present constituents are
•f all things most anxious to get rid—a transitory and
evanescent senator—a politician distrusted and despised,
and sure, whenever it becomes necessary that he should
again solicit the suffrages of any body of British elec-
tors, to be scornfully rejected. Has Mr. O'Connell
so secured a seat for Dublin, or Mr. Hume for Mid-
dlesex, or Mr. Wakley and Mr. Duncombe for Fins-
bury, or Mr. Roebuck for Bath, that for sake of assi-
milation to them the House of Lords should be re-
formed ? It is doubtful, at the best, if any one of
the persons we have mentioned will ever again appear
in the House of Commons as the representatives of
the constituencies whom they now disgrace. It is
doubtful, with respect to the majority of them, and of
all who share'their opinions, whether, after Thursday
or Friday next, they will ever again be seen in the
House of Commons. To say, then, that the institu-
tions of this country should be changed to suit the
temper and intellect of beings so ephemeral is, in
effect, to contend that the Constitution of England
ought to be as changeable as, her climate. And this
we apprehend even Lord Melbourne and. Lord John
Russell, dabblers in Reform as they are, and living
from day to day by the Movement as they are com-
pelled to do, will scarcely venture to assert.—Mornzng
Post.

It is quite natural that a great sinecurist, like Lord
Ellenborough, should be attached to the preservation
of sinecures in the Church of Ireland ; but we think
his Lordship's partialities must have obscured what
little reason he may possess, when he declared last
night, with reference to the Resolution of Appro-
priation—" It was one, he said, of a most unfor-
tunate kind, whether he looked at it as one to
which there was no hope that this House would ever
accede, or in any other view. The Noble Viscount,
when he undertook the Government, must have
known,that that House would never accede to that
Resolution. But that resolution was the more la-
mentable, as it had created -a fatal obstacle to that
union of public men which was essential to the good
conduct of the public service. While this Reso-
lution existed, there never could be a Govern-
ment which could conduct the affairs of the country
usefully, beneficially, or firmly, between the two
Houses of Parliament. He repeated, that there
was no hope of this House ever agreeing to the
Resolution." His Lordship here assumes that the
determination of the Lords ought to be considered like
a law of the Medes and Persians, and that the Reso-
lution of the Representatives of the people ought to
be considered as dust in the balance. The Lords
may, through Lord Ellenborough, hold what lan-
guage they please. But the public may be less anxious
to convert the Lords than his Lordship supposes. Per-
haps his Lordship may have read the paraphrase of a
Greek epigram—.
1' an you by your physic
Take from me my. old pthysic
-No, I cannot by phyiiic
itlitb from you your old pthysic
Dui / ran by physic
Take on frOin yetir
W may not be able to take obstinacy front thti
Lords ; but we may take the Lords from their obsti-
nacy. The cool assurance of Lord Ellenborough, who
assumes, as a matter of courses that when the Lords
differ front the tiatittri) the tiatinit must give evay, re-
minds us of the Scotch servant, who, on his master,
the laird, telling him, either you or I must quit this
house, exclaimed " Where cati our laird be gaain ?"
No, no, Lord Ellenborough, the nation is somewhat
mote than two httndfed individuals, many of them pau-
pers, and many sinecurists like yourself. You cannot
do without the nation, but the nation may do very well
without you. The Standard boasts of the victorious
career of the Lords throughout the last session,and, with
reference to the acceptance of the mutilated Corpora-
tion Reform Bill, exultingly tells us that " the House
of Commons, in the late contest, has eaten the leek
with many wt'y mouths, with much swaggering, through
a correctional process, by amendment not greatly dif-
fering from the operation of Fluellen's staff, and with
just about a groat's worth of concession. The threats
of revenge are identical in the mouths of the elder and
the modern Pistols." Softly, good Standard. You

may undervalue as much as you like the import of the
Corporation Bill, and you may think the Lords won-
derfully clever in opposing every liberal measure sent
to them from the Commons. See, exclaim the To-

ries, we told you the Lords would not allow anything
to be done--and nothing has been done. Indeed I
Nothing? Is it nothing to have a moderate prudent
man like Lord Ebrington, who must soon be himself
in the
Mon-
day ilouse of Lords, state in his place on Mon-
nig,ht, with evident feelings of pain and re-
gret, tl
~at "He could not shut his ears to the

words that had been used by a large portion of
j, not of extreme opinions, but, on the
cor
,Mary, removed from the turmoil of party poli-
ti.
and who were accustomed to judge not from party
ieetiings but from facts. He could not shut his ears
tq the opinions expressed by the people, of the impos-
sibilit, • of the two branches of the Legislature continu-
ing a-irtt, 'ey were. #e was persuaded that the venera-
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THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 9, 183.

tion which belonged to the House ,of Lords, in the
eyes of the peopre of England, wouliicl pint continue,
‘,inleSg the ..pOple taiind that the I
of tolits' tietfer, fir roc
Un'Veiiiiiiieht: What lie liad 1-0(1. dliteSt3al
•_• • sc., • ,‘ • •
opinion
Sincere. an conscientious opinion—an
I • ti • .
rinAn ec not only,tipon the 1 gr,ounds:, he ha,Chniis.elf.
sttliici, tcCM' what lie llad hcarti. tferil 14.1a4
sons who were far from being the advocates of ex-
treme measures." Lord Ebrington knows the world
—he knows that the necessity of getting rid of
the not br tom% iii . 88tii.e Aity or dilief; i§
assnined as , ;Settled hi, et,efy rditlli i.
Somethinz illerersr; geed dcine=4l Bleat tiedl
ha:S heei dC.iiii•-:;l,by the Lords themselves. They
have supplied the proof of what had long been
affirmed .by speculative writers, that an irrespon-
sible House of Lords caritiOt %+itli a House of
Comaim tier* fetilhied H tile iiedpie. Eft:o the
moment the Lords were deprived of the powei
the Commons with their nominees, they ceased to have
interests in common with
,t,liat
.Hotise; The Com-
mons 1530.1 t Wtlial liter tHA liltPieati dt the rta-
nation. The Lords have interests of their own,
at variance with .the interests of the nation. They
live by peculation and phinderthei have an
ititefest ltl the inalidetiailee dl' tillecilrei lii elitlfell
.and Btate; and a hed.iiy national 64)61s:tante gild for
the sake e 1 these edfrilpt interests they *ould at ally
impede the business of the nation. Nothing
can be done with them. "If the people really dish
like the House of Lads upon principle (says the
Standard) the people will get fid of that House,
howeVei it §:hail ae Tile people Hall"; Ells,:
like the House of Lords upon principle, and that
principle is its irresponsibility. It is not fitting that
to any two or three hundred mew should be com-
mitted the pover of opposing themselves to
the nation. The people see that this irresponsi-
bility due§ In reality destroy the connection with the
nation, 'which alone can render it supportable. Lord
Grey, from partiality towards his Order, did all that
he could to hide from the nation what is now seen by
all who are not absolutely blind. He shrunk from
placing before them such Bills as they would boggle
at, and thus put dfr the evil day. But the nation
could not long submit to the indignity of having the
House of Commons a nullity, merely because the
Lords would pass no Bills of searching Reform. The
moment it was seen that important Bills sent up to the
House of Lords stuck there, that moment the people
became convinced that there was but one way of get-
ting rid of the obstruction. Much has been done
therefore during the Session now at an end, in the
way
.of sealing the doom of the House of Lords. But
opinion is yet divided as to the means of supplying a
substitute. The general opinion is in favour of two
liaises. But the mode of giving to the second
House an identity of interests with the nation is the
point to be settled. We have heard of several schemes
for this purpose ; but the importance of the subject
entitles. it to a separate consideration.—Morning
Chronicle.
The Tory Journals are running wild in exultation,
not at the passing of the Municipal Reform Bill,
such as it is, by the Commons, but at the "submis-
sion" of that body to thes-insolent aggression of- the
House of Peers. It is even urged by the more fasti-
dious, that this "duty" was performed with unbecom-
ing and censurable reluctance, and not with that un-
qualified respect which the conduct of the Sovereign
Lords should have commanded from the mere repre-
sentatives of the people. We are much pleased to
witness these insults following the injuries which the
Upper House has been the means of perpetrating
against the rights of the British people, the dictates
of justice, and sound policy; they show what is to
be expected from the oligarchs and their organs,
and must sooner rouse the people to exertion, by
proving the necessity of hurling their insolent op-
pressors to the dust. In what a pitiable position have
premature concessions placed the Ministers and the
Commons, when their best supporters must hear them
designated as " base truckling cowards," without be-
ing able to spurn the. charge as a falsehood ; nay, be-
ing, even compelled to subscribe to it as a truth. How-
ever, in point of fact, the Tories have little cause to
triumph. Bad as the Bill is, it will give to thepeo-
ple the means of choosing at least thirty representa-
tives, instead of as many nominees, who are now re-
turned to uphold aristocratic and corporate abuses.
And when it is considered that Ministers are pledged
to bring forward another Corporation Bill next Ses-
sion, and that several notices for reforms in the House
of Lords arc on the books of the House of Commons,
and that the insensate and insolent conduct of the
Peers has convinced even moderate men of the neces

sity of their reformation ; we fancy that the present
triumph of corruption and mal-legislation will ere long
be changed into defeat and desolation. It may not be
agreeable to the braggarts to learn, that in the best
informed circles there are bets and odds being laid,
" that Bishops do not sit in the House of Lords after
next Session," and " that before two years hereditary
legislation will be no more." Even some of the Lords
themselves lay the odds in favour of reason, justice,
and the people.—Morning Advertiser.
The sapient authorities of the Horse Guards have
no feeling in unison with the people, and they act as
though the lives of his Majesty's subjects were of
little or no value. We ar© not surprised at any order
that proceeds from this haunt of Toryism, nor do we
write with the hope of convincing those who have
power there, that the demand of the people has a
higher authority than their orders. But we write to
show the necessity of a firm determination or. the part
of the people to resist the military despotism under
which it is desired to place them. We have often
referred to the impropriety of the order which com-
mands all soldiers to wear their bayonets. Many
requisitions have been forwarded to the Horse Guards

praying the revision of this custom, which not
only endangers the lives of the unoffending citizens,
but has been frequently the cause of most atrocious
murders. Not long 'since we gave an account of an
affray at Chatham, which terminated in the death of
a sailor by a bayonet. Last week the life of a gen-
tleman was threatened on the highway by a soldier
armed with a bayonet; and on Thursday last a sol-
dier of the 87th regiment was bound over to the
Quarter Sessions for stabbing a corporal of marines
with a bayonet. It is surely too great a demand
`Upon the people of this country that they should
be called upon to support a standing army, by every
individual of which their lives are endangered. The
people already feel the necessity of taking from a class
of men, not celebrated for their sobriety, a weapon
given by the country for the defence, and not the
murder, of its members. We hope that the attention

of the House of Commons will be directed to this

subject in an early sitting of the next session.—
Morning Advertiser.

DREADFUL ACCIDENT BY FIRE.— Monday
morning, between seven and eight o'clock, a dreadful accident
occurred to a remarkably fine young woman, of the name of
Hannah Quickley, 18 years of age, residing at No. 12, Gray's-
buildings, Manchester-square. From the statement of the
unhappy sufferer, it appears that she was engaged lighting
the parlour fire when, by some unforeseen occurrence, her
dress caught fire unobserved by her. Almost immediately on
her attempting to go to the window, she discovered herself
enveloped in flames. In this dreadful situation she ran out of
the room screaming for assistance, but before any could pos-
sibly arrive her clothes were burnt from her person. She
was immediately conveyed in a coach to Middlesex Hospital,
enduring- most excruciating sufferings. On her arrival at the
hospital, on examination of the injuries she had sustained, it
was discovered that her left side, from the foot to the head,
was burnt in a dreadful manner. Surgical skill was promptly
rendered, but to such an extent are the injuries she has received
that the unhappy sufferer lies in a most precarious state.
DWARF FAMILY.—The freaks of nature are
sometimes most extraordinary, and become interesting in pro-
portion to the degree of aberration in her general laws. The
rarest instance of her frolics we have ever witnessed is exhi-
bited in the family of Michael Walters, a poor but respectable
citizen of this county. His family consists of eight children,
four of whom are the most highly-finished dwarfs we have
ever seen or heard any authentic account of. There are two
males and two females; the height of the eldest who is a male,
and in his 2.5 th year, is threb feet six inches, and his weight
341bs. The other male is in his ninth year, and is two feet
seven and one-fourth inches high, and he weighs 211bs. The
eldest female is in her 18th year, and is two feet eleven inches
high, and weighs 271bs. The other female is in her 17th
year, is two feet eleven and a quarter inches high, and weighs
271bs. They are of fine proportions and handsomely formed ;
the heads, hands, feet, limbs, and bodies, all corresponding
with the diminutiveness of their sze....4.merieaniyiper.