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THIS EVENING.

ST. JAMES'S-PALACE, JUNE I.
The King has been pleased to appoint Edwin Pearson, Esq. an
Exon of his Majesty's Body Guard of Yeomen of the Guard, in
the room of Sir Henry Cipriani, resigned.

CROWN-OFFICE, JUNE 19.
MEMBERS RETURNED TO SERVE IN THIS PRESENT PARLIAMENT.
BOROUGH OF CALVE.—Thomas Babington Macaulay, Esq. of
Gray's.lnn, Barrister-at-law.
Beam:nu OF CRICKLADE.—Robert Gordon, Esq.

DECLARATIONS OF INSOLVENCY.
NICHOLAS TEMPERLEY, Westgate, Northumberland,
shipowner.
JOHN LEACH, Warrington, Lancashire, hosier.

BANKRUPTS,
ROBERT JOY, jun., Grand Hotel, Covent-garden, hotel
keeper, to surrender July 2, at eleven, and 51, at ten, at the Court
of Bankruptcy. Bird and Watson, Lincoln's Inn-fields; Clark,
St. Swithin's-lane, London.
CHARLES PIERCE and JOHN WOODWARD, Man.
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Staple Inn, London ; Finlow, Liverpool.
NICHOLAS RICHARDS, Brudenell-place, New North.
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at the Court of Bankruptcy. Ashley, Old-street-road.
BENJAMIN WINKFIELD PIK Duncan-terrace, City.
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twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Beetham, Chatham place,
Blackfriars.
WILLIAM WHITAKER, Bath, broker, July 5 and 31, at
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BENJAMIN HOBDAY, Edgba,ton, Warwickshire, factor,
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IMPERIALPARMA.MENT

THIS EVENING.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Mr. MACAULEY took the oaths and his seat for Caine.

Mr. Preston appealed at the Bar with a copy of certain
resolutions of the Court of the East India House.
Mr. Johnston appeared at the Bar with a return of the
amount of fees taken in the Admiralty Court.
BIRMINGHAM AND LONDON RAILWAY.
_ _ _

On the motion of Sir G. SIIPR'ITII, the Birmingham
and London Railway Bill was read a third time.
The iloN. BARONET then moved the addition of several
clauses, by way of riders.
The first clause was a reservation in favour of the
Grand Junction Canal Company, and provided, that, if
any accident, caused by the railway, should impede the
free navigation of the Grand Junction Canal, the Railway
Company, in certain cases, should render compensation to
the amount of 101., and in others 301. per hour during
such impediment. This clause went through its several
stages, and was ordered to be added to the Bill.
' The second claim was to preserve the levels of the rail-
way, which was added to the Bill.
The third prohibited any engine on the railway from
being worked by coals ; but provided that, in order to
prevent so great an annoyance as would be caused by the

-onoke on the line of road, wood, coke, or charcoal only
should he used, under a penalty of
The House resolved itself into a Committee on oat
clause, Mr. LITTLETON in the Chair, whe❑ the blank
was ordered to be filled up with 51.
The House resumed, and the clause was added to the
Bill.

The fourth rider provided that nothing in the Act
should extend so as to abridge, alter, or destroy any of the
rights and privileges of the Mayor and Corporation of
London.

Mr. LITTLE CON thought the Hon. Alderman (Mr.
Alderman Wood) should have taken especial care of the
dignity of the Lord Mayor ; in this instance he was styled
the Mayor, and not the Lord Mayor.—(A laugh.)
Mr. Alderman WOOD said, in all Charters he was de-
signated the Mayor of London, and not the Lord Mayor.
Several verbal amendments having been made, the seve-
ral clauses were ordered to be added to the Bill, which
was then passed.
Sir R. BATESON presented petitions from congrega-
tions connected with the Synod of nter, in Down, An-
trim, Drotnore, and Londonderry, against the Government
plan of education in Ireland.
Mr. PRINGLE, in supporting the prayer of the peti-
tions, observed that the General Assembly of the Church
of Scotland lamented that it should have gone abroad, from
a petition that was presented some time since, that they
were favourable to the Government plan of education in
Ireland. The fact was, they had been deceived by the
statement of the Right Hon. Secretary for Ireland.
Captain GORDON said that the statement which he
had ventured to make on the presentation of the petition,
had been now fully borne out.
Mr. KENNEDY thought Hon. Members would have
exercised a much sounder discretion if they had reserved
their observations till the Right Hon. Secretary for Ire-
land had been present.
Mr. HUME expressed his surprise. at the statement
that time General Assembly 01 the Church of Scotland had
been deceived, and considering it the height of presump-
tion in any Hon. Member to make such a statement, no
proof having been brought forward that they were so.
Lord KILLEEN thought that the Government plan of
education in Ireland would be attended with the best effect.

Mr. Alderman WOOD did not rise for the purpose of
prolonging the discussion upon the petitions, but for the
purpose of requesting his Hon. Friend, the Member for
Middlesex, to postpone the presentation of his petition re-
lative to the creditors of Marsh, Fauntleroy, and Co., an
Hon. Colleague of hi 3 (Mr. Alderman Wood) not being
able to attend.

Mr. HUME with great unwillingness consented to
postpone the presentation of the petition to Thursday,
upwards of ten days having elapsed since he sent a copy
of the petition to the Governor and Company of the Bulk.
Sir R. BATESON then presented a petition from tl e
members of the Protestant Conservative Society, in Dub-
lin, against the Bill introduced by the Right Hon. Se-
cretary for Ireland for suppressing processions. Among
the petitioners were many gentlemen of the first rank,
talent, character and property in Ireland, and they
stated that they bad heard of processions of a
most extensive character in England, at which banners
with revolutionary inscriptions were exhibited in the vi-
cinity of the Sovereign's Palace, and that Government
had introduced no Bill for their suppression. They had
beard also that some of his Majesty's Ministers had cor-
responJed with the bodies from which those processions
emanated; they had no objection to the suppression of all
processions, but it appeared that it was intended only
to put down Protestant—those processions which usually
took place in the month of July, and that it was not in-
tended to embrace any other processions. So recently as
last year processions had been held in Dublin which ema-
nated from meetings sanctioned by the Government, and
attended by two of his Majesty's Sergeants-at-law. Even at
this period large masses of people were assembling in Ireland,
whose professed object was to destroy church property,
but whose real object is to destroy every description of
property, and yet Government had not adopted any means
of prevention. The petitioners concluded by deploring
the forbearance of the Government towards the disaffected
part of the population, and prayed that the Bill might
not pass into a law. He (Sir Robert 13 rteson) never
was an Orangeman, and lie bad always wished that all
processions and all party animosity should subside; but he
was bound to state, that at the present moment the Orange-
men of Ireland are a most numerous and respectable body,
and that within the last six months tens of thousands had
joined it, not from a wish to oppose the Government, but
from the necessity of protecting their lives and property.
He knew that a system of exclusive dealing had been re-
commended by the leading demagogues of the day, and
every body knew that a recommendation from such
quarters was law; for those demagogues not only ruled,
but ruled with a rod of iron. What objection, then,
could there be to allow the processions of persons on
the 12th instant, when the object was merely to go to
church, hear a sermon, and then go home ? He implored
the Government not to pass the Bill too hastily—at all
events to postpone it until after the 12th of July—at all
events it was now too late for this year, because
the preparations for the 12th of July were already
made—(Hear, hear)—those public processions which their
forefathers had been accustomed to.

Mr. STANLEY deprecated such premature discus-
sion, and implored Honourable Gentlemen to wait
until the MI came regularly before the House. As
to the procession merely going to church to hear
a sermon, the Bill would not interfere with it ;
and would only interfere with processions growing out of
religious party-feeling; but what reason was there
for processions going to church with arms, banners, and
music?—(Hear.) Those tended to create a disturbance,
and should be put down. The Hon. Baronet had fur-
nished him with a sufficient reason to press the Bill hastily
through the House (which he certainly should do) as it
appeared that preparations were already making for pro-
cessions on the 12th of July next.
Mr. H. GRATTAN hoped the Bill would be imme-
diately proceeded with.
The petition was read, and ordered to be printed.
POOR LAWS IN IRELAND.

Mr. SADLER rose to bring forward his motion re-
specting making a provision for the poor of Ireland. He
expressed his intention to give every Member an oppor-
portunity of solemnly recording his opinion, whether or
not the poor of Ireland were entitled to relief, and
if that right be conceded, whether it was expedient
any longer to withhold that relief. He was de-
termined not to let a single Session pass while he
had a seat in that House, without bringing this ques-
tion forward ; but he did not despair of the decision of this
night. He recollected that when he brought the subject for-
ward last Session upon resolutions, be was told he should
have proceeded by introducing a Bill, but upon considers.;
tion, he was persuaded that the course he then pursued
was the best one. All that this Parliament could do
was to affirm a resolution on the subject; and he had
taken the proper course to endeavour to effect that object.
In addressing himself to the subject, he would not
hesitate to place in the face and front of the argu-
ment, the right of the poor to relief founded on the
nature ofthing!—a right which lies at the foundation
of all civilized institutions, which was affirmed and esta-
blished by the most sacred injunctions. Mr. Locke, in
that celebrated treatise which might justly be denomi-
nated the foundation of British liberty_his treatise
On Government, had asserted that no man had so
complete a right to his own property as to exclude
the claims of his poorer fellow-creatures ; and
the same opinion had been entertained by all !great Le-
gislators. Religion, in ally its forms assumed, recognized,
and sanctioned the justice and necessity of such an institu-
tion. Whenever society advanced just in proportion as
the people removed from barbarism, was this right
asserted and provided for, and in all the civilized
countries of Europe provision was established for the poorer
classes of the community. In the United States, where,
if any where, it might have been dispensed with, provisions
being cheap, and labour plentiful, as one of her ablest
writers had shown, provision for the poor, which was
there established, extended to objects not comprised
in our system, and by which the poor of every country
and complexion were relieved.—(Hear.) The poor
would never cease out of the land, and this was a
truth which, suPportcd by the highest sanction, was not,
he thought, inconsistent with the true interests of every
civilized community. With only one exception, provi-
sion for their relief bad been established in all civi-
lized countries, and that unha exception was Ireland.
ppy
The question therefore which naturally arose, was, whe-
ther there was there distress to be alleviated, affliction to
be removed, or poverty to be relieved, or whether the
afflictions incident to humanity, generally speaking, were

' out there of so slight a character, or so transient
in their duration, as to render such a provision
wholly unnecessary. On the contrary, the depth
of the distress, its universility, and continuation, were
mule an argument why no attempt should be made to in-
stitute a provision for the poor of Ireland. The emer-
gency was greal-er with regard to Ireland than with any
other country in the world. Of this it was useless
for him to remind the House, for it must he fresh in
S.:Li recollection of every Hon. Member, what scenes
were described during the time that the late awful dis-
tress prevailed there—when famine stalked through the
,untry with baneful visage, the sure presage of pesti-
lence. Another curse to which Ireland was subject was
absenteeism. The great landed proprietors were seldom
on their own estates, and not one in ten of them
could possibly know anything of what was the condition
of their poor tenants. They not only did this injustice,
but took that trade from these poor people which their living
at home would give them. There was also that practise
of clearing out, as it was called, by which thousands were
driven from their homes, and having no provision of this
sort to fly to, were obliged to sleep on moors and feed on
wild herb•. It was well known that the poor laws of this
country had been the means of saving it from turbulence
and riots. Every Hon. Member would recollect that when
they were told by history that the state of this country
before the introduction of tha Poor Laws was the same as
what now prevailed in Ireland, and that hundreds of lives
had been lost, both in the streets and on the scaffold.
It was a great hardship on the poor of this country
that there should be a provision for them here, and
none in Ireland. Fur it led a great portion of them
who had been cleared out in that country, to expatriate
themselves to this country, where they thought
they might be better, and could not be worse. The
natural result was, that every manufacturing and
agricultural district in the country was filled with
Mailmen, and the result was that wherever they came,
prices of labour fell, and reduced the natives of those
places to a state equally bad as themselves. The
Pour Laws once established in Ireland would not
be a greater bgon to that country than to this.
The same objections now made to their establishment in
Ireland, had been made before they were introduced into
this country ; but history proved how erroneous they were.
In conclusion the Hon. Member conjured tl e House to
adopt his motion, for the sake of tranquillity and preserva-
tion of Ireland.
Mr. HUNT seconded the motion.

The SPEAKER then put the question, that the House
agree to the following resolution :—" That it is expedient
to establish a permanent provision for the suffering and
destitute poor of Ireland, by a levy upon all the real pro-
perty of that part of the United Kingdom, and more
particularly upon that of the absentees.'
Mr. STANLEY then rose. He felt regret as well as
urprise that the Hon. Member had, within the last few
days altered his notice, and that he had now brought for-
ward a resolution more vague than the one he introduced
last Session, instead of his Bill. He had paid the greatest
attention to the speech of the Hon. Member, but confessed
his utter inability to collect from it the nature of the
plan which the Hon. Member proposed for the adoption of
the House.

(LEFT SPEAKING.)

HOUSE OF LORDS.

Mr. BERNAL and others from the Commons brought up
some private Bills.
The Irish Scotch Qualification Peer Bill was read a
third time and passed.
Lord WHARNCLIFFE reported progress from the
General Metropolitan Cemt tery Bill.
The whole House resolved itself into a Committee on
the Consolidated Fund Bill, which passed through the
Committee without opposition.
The House received the report upon the King's County
Bill.