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eh was against evident*, justice, principle, and policy.
In Al, present state of things there was not the smallest
t..,tce that such an Act, of Parliament could he eirried
into effect. He (Mr. Shiel). and those who thought with
him, might he derided for the opinions which they ad-
vanced, and the language which they 11,1 d ; but he would
have the House remember that, though few in number,
they were the representatives—the vanguard of the people,
and that their opinions were worthy of respect, because
they were hacked by the assent of millions.

Mr. CRAMPT6N, alluding to the concluding sentence
of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman who had just sat
down, denied that he, or those who thought with him.
were, as he hail st tted, the representatives of the people of
Ireland ; they were the representatives only of the diseases
and factitious feeling of a party of the people. Having
combated at some length the arguments which had been
advanced against the Bill, the Hon. and Learned Gentleman
went on to contend that a new legislative enactment was ne-
cessary, to regulate the assessments, and compel the payment
of tithe, and in conclusion maintained that the measure
now pr..posed was the hest calculated to effect those ends.
Mr. M. O'FERRALL contended that the opinions
which had been advanced by the Hon. Member for Lowth
were not those of the mere rabble of Ireland, but of a very
respectable portion of the inhabitants of that country.
Sir C. WETHERELL thought that Government had
not sufficiently made out their case, as to the practical
working of the Bill. He agreed with the Hon. Member
for Lowth, that the machinery of the Bill was cumbersome,
but nevertheless he approved of its principle. The resprm-
sibility of the measure however must rest with government.
Mr. STANLEY sail the objections to the Bell had been
so fully answered by his Hon. Friend, that he had hut
little to say on the subject. It lead been o'jected since
that answer, that it was hard to have the names of persons
stuck up on the doors of the church who had not paid.
He did not see any thing hard in this. Surely, when a
person did not pay what was due, and particularly when
he combined with others not to pay, he could not com•
plain of his name being exhibited to the public en the
doors of the church. He would take upon himself to say,
however, that it the Legislature were to agree to the mea-
sure, and one or two solvent tenants were obliged to pay
up th,ir arretr., others would be induced by such an
example to pay the tithe. He did not recollect any other
obj..ction to the measure, and would not, therefore, detain
the H..use with another observation.

Mr. JEPFISON did not object to the principle of the
Bill, but thought the details hal been carried too far.
After protests from Mr. Wysr. and Mr. LEADER
against coercive measures,

Led ALTHORP said the Government and the House
were pledged not to use coercive measures without alopt-
ing mans of redress. The Government, he would only
add, were determined to afford redress; hut it ought to
be borne in mind that the means for effecting such a pur-
pose were complicated, and that time must be given fur
arranging the Beta Is.
The House then divided, and the numbers were—
For the second reading
Against it
Majority
The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to
be committed on Monday next.

The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and
the House adjourned at Three o'clock.

LIST OF TH.
OF 118 WHO VOTED W
CIVIL DEPARTM:
Alt horp, Vis.—Northamptonsh.
Astley, Sir J. D.—Wiltshire
AUierley, A.—Southampton
Baring, F. T.—Portsmouth
Benett,

MAJ,,RITY
TH MINISTERS ON THE
',NT NAVAL BILL.

itanley, Lord—L;n;shire
,Stanley, E. G. S.—Windsor
'Stephenson, H. F.—Westbury
Strickland, G.—Yorkshire

Berkeley, Captain—Gloucester
Blake, Sir F.—Berwick
Blamire, W.—Cumberland
Brougham, J.—Winchilsea
Burton, Henry—Beverley
Buxton, T F.—Weymouth, &c.
Campbell, J.— Staftbrd
Carter, J. B.—Portsmouth
Cavendish, Id. G.—Derbyshire
Crampton,P.C.—Milbournel'ort
Creevey, F.—Downton
Denman, Sir T—Nottinghamsh.
Duncombe, T. S.—Hertford
l)undas, Sir R. L.—Richmond
Ebrington, Visc.—Devonshire
Ellice, K—Coventry
Evans, Col. De Lacy—Rye

Strutt, E.L-Derby
Stuart, Lord P. J.—Cardiff
Thicknesse, R.—Wigan
Thomson, Rt. flon.C. P.—Dover
Thompson, Alderman—Lonuon
Tomes, J.—Warwick
Torrens, R.-,Ashburton

Tracy, Charles—Tewkesbury
Venables' Ald.—London
Vernon, G. J.—Derbyshire
Villiers, T. H.—Bletchingly
Vincent, Sir F.—St. Alban's
IWarburton, H.—Bridport
Warre, J. A.—Hastings
Wason, R.—lpswich
Wellesley, W. T. L.—Essex
Wilks, J.—Boston
.....

Evans, W. B —Leoininster
Ewart, \V.—Liverpool

IWilliams, Sir J. H.—Carmarth.
Williams, W.—Monmouthshire
Williamson, Sir H.—Durham
Willoughby, Sir H.—Yarmouth,
Isle of Wight

Fazakerley, J. ti.—ll'eterboro•
Fel!owes, H. A. W.—Andover
Gisbortie, T.—Stafford

Graham, SirJ. R. G.—Cumberl.
Harcourt,G. V. G.—Oxfordsh.
Hawkins, J. H.—Tavistock
Heywood, B.—Lancashire
Hobhouse, Sir J. C.—Westmin.
Howard, P. H.—Carlisle
flowick, lA.—Northumberland
Hughes, Ald. W. H.—Oxford.
flume, Joseph—Middlesex.
Jerningham, R. V.—Pontefract
King, E. B.—Warwick
Langston, J. H.—Oxford

Wood, Aldc;man—London
Wrightson, W. 13,-,Hull

SCOTLAND.
Adam, C.—Kinross, &c.
Fergusson, R. C.—Kircudbright
Gillon, W. D.—Selkirk, &c.
Grant, Rt. Hon. C.—lnverness-
shire

Hon.—Forfarshire
Johnston, J.—Dunferrnlin,&c.
Loch, J —fain, &c.
Ross, H.—Aberdeen,l&c.
IRELAND.

Langton, -W. G.—Somersetshire
L,wley, F.—Warwickshire
Leigh, T. C.—Wallingford
Lester, B. L.—Poole
Maberly, W. L.—Shaftesbury
Macdonald, Sir J.—Hampshire
Marshall, W.—Beverley
Mills, J.—Rochester
Nugent, Lord—Aylesbury
Palmer, C. F.—Reading
Peuleaze, J. S.--Southampton
Penrhyn, E.--Shaftesbury
Phillips, C. M.—Leicestershire
Price, Sir R.—Herefordshire
Robarts, A. W.—Maidstone
iiooper, J. B.—H untingd. msh ire,
Russell, Lord J.—Devonshire
Sanford, E. A.—Somersetshire
Schonswar, G.—Hull
Smith, G. R.—Midhurst
Smith, J. A.—Chichester
Smith, V.—Northampton
Spencer, Hon. F. Worcestersh.

Brabazon, Vise.—Dublin Co.
Browne, J.—Co. of Mayo
Burke Sir J.—Galway Co

Carew, R. S.—Wexford County
Chapman, M.—Westmeath Co.
Chichester, Sir A.—Belfast
Grattan, J.—Co. of Wicklow
Howard, R.—Co. of Wicklow
.Tephson, C. I). 0.--Mallow]
Killeen, Lord—Co. of Meath
King, IL—County of Cork
Lamb, G.—llungarvon
Leader, N. P.—Kil enny Co.
NPNamara, W. N.—Clare Co.
O'Connell, M. I).—Co. of Clare
Power, R.—Waterford County
Ruthven, E. S.—llownpatrick
Sheil, R. L.—('o. of Louth
Wa.ker,C. A.—Wexford

White, S.—Co. of Leitrim
Wyse, T., jun.—Tipperary Co.

LIST OF TH