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London, England, 1803-02-26 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

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HOUSE; OF PEERS.
FR IDAY,• FEB. ZS. " •
Courts tr. were heard at some length relative to the Sedtch
Appeal, Roderick Fildayson, Esq. v. Hugh Tones, Esq.-and
Others, viz. Mr. M ACO octtlt on the part of the Appel-
lant, and Mr. NOW LAND for the Respondents. After which
their Lordships deferred the further hearing of Counsel till
Nlonday.
The Earl of Gnit,nroßn (succeeding to the Peerage on
the demise of his Brother, the late Earl) took the Oaths and
his Scat, as also did Lord C IR, one of the Irish Repre-
sentative Peers.
Some routine and private business was disposed of.
The Bank Restriction Bill was read a third tittle, and
passed.
Lord PELHAM moved the Order of the Day
for taking His Majesty's Royal Message into con-
sideration, relative to the Affairs of His Royal
Highness the Prince of Wales.; which being read, his
Lordship rose to move an Address to His Majesty
on the occaion. He prefaced the Motion by a few
observations, in which he expressed his confidence,
that with respell to the object of its Majesty's gra.
cious Message, there could be but one sentiment
pervade that House. He felt it unnecessary to ex.
patiate upon the topic. Their Lordships, he was
sure, must be animated with an earnest wish and
desire to free the Heir Apparent from the present
embarrassment of his affairs, to restore him zo si-
tuation of comfort, and to the enjoyment and dis-
play of that degree of splendor and dignity, which
in a constitutional point of view it was obviously
necessary to attach to one in the important and ele-
vated situation of His Royal Highness. Would
no longer detain their Lotdships, but move an Ad-
dress, expressive of these feelings and sentiments on
theopart of the House; which having done, the Ad-
dress was read in the usual way : it was a general
re.echo of the Message ; thanked His Majesty for
his most graciouseommunication, and assuring him
that the House would not fail to take the subjeft
into its serious consideration ; that His Majesty may
rely on the cheerful concurrence of their Lordships
in the- adoption of any measure calculated to pro.
mote the comfort, and maintain the due splendor
and dignity of so important a branch of the Royal
Family as His Royal Highness the Prince of Wales.
On the question being put,
TI, Earl of CARLISLE rose, not, he said to
oppose the Motion ; on the contrary, it had his most
Cordial concurrence, but merely to submit one ob.
nervation to the House. He was aware the present
was not the moment for discussion ; a regular op.
portonity would hereafter occur, and in which the
business would he methodically and fully before the
}louse. His intention at present was to submit his
opinion, that one circumstance was necessary to the
due elucidation of the subject ; it was one of con.
side'rable'difficulty and importance; the proposition
could be urged by many abler and more conversant
in such things than himself, but strong considers—
, tions of duty urged hint to suggest it, Ills idea
was, that previous to the final determination (so
we understood the Noble Earl) of Parlianient upon
the general subjed, the judicial decision, which be
believed was still pending, relative to the Claims of
His Royal Highness respOting the ReSenses of the
Dutchy of Cornwall, should be kirsten,. This
struck him most forcibly as necessary to be known
before the subjc& could be rightly understood. It
was now several months since the subjeCt was agi-
tated in the quarter to which he alluded—Why a
decision had not been since come to, he could not
tell. Were it known, the House woilld, so far, be
-in possession of the opinion of the Sages of the Law
upon the sobjed, with that of the able and learned
Personage upon the Woolsack at their head. In
urging the consideration alluded to (which the
Noble E,rl more than owe repeated), he disclaimed
any thing like disrespect to, or disapprobation of
the conclua of the NOhle and Learned Lord on the
Woolsack : still less could it be his desire to say any
thing that could probably create a degree of misun.
derstanding in 'an, Illustrious House ; respeCting
which, on the contrary, it must be the wish of all
their Lordships; and of none more than hinaself, to
render them united and happy among themselves,
and respettahle in .the eyes of the world. The
question at issue was nor, he conceived, between
the two Illustrious Personages in their eontempla.
tiun, but between the Illustrious Claimant and the
Public; but being afloat, he thought it should be
fully and fairly decided, and substantial justice done
-between the Pasties. The credit of the Public was,
on such an occasion, no less- at stake than the inte-
rests of the Illustrious Person in question—of a
Public which, Conseiving air as he did, would not
only spew itself just, but liberal. In viewing the
subjen in question, he must consider it solely on
public gr,•untis,,, a;nl an that principle must lose
sight of those personal partialities, which the many
private virtues, amiable demeanour, and-faseinating
conversation of
,the Illustrious Person alluded to,
must necessarily create. Dwelling on these topics
for. some time, the :Noble Earl Averted to this cit.'
cumsosoces in which, for smile years past, His
Royal Highness had been placed. 01 these he
seemed to speak in strong terms :at disapprobation,
and painted them out as such from which that Illus-
trious Person should be rescued as soon as possible.
1-k concluded by observing, that he should propose
no Motion-on the subject; but that from consi-
derations of duty, he felt himself called upon to
submit the Proposition to the House, which he had
done..
The Earl of 470184 deprecated all discussion of
the subject at present, as obviously not being the
proper time. With resped to the consideration
suggested by the Noble Earl, their Lordships must
be aware, that ot.l account of peculiar circumstances,
they could not then-have assistance, in the way of
discussion, front the quarter most cothpetent to af-
ford it. For his own part, he at preseor, most
cordially concurred in what had follen from the
Noble Sicatiosioe of Sristes in the hope, that a
perfect unanimity would prevail in the House—
'With•resped to the business 'as it then stood, he
hoped the 'propositions made in the other House,
would be 'Ouly followed up, by the necessary pro,
ceedings, which would:afterwards afford their Lord.
ships a regular opportunity of discussing the sub.
jet : and. the Noble Earl seemed to remind theft*
Lordships) of the wish of the.lllustrious Person' in

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-.4l;(lltJatt, to submit the arrangement of the affair
entirely to the wisdom of Parliament.
The' question was then put, the Address was
voted nom. dim. and the Lords with white staves
were ordered to wait on His MAJESTY respthing
the San*.
Lord KING, in reference to some points which
bad transpired in the Financial discussion, on a for-
mer evening, made some observations as to the pro.:
priety of having certain accounts and documents re.
lative to the Financial circumstances and Course
of the Exchange with Ireland. • On these ground
the Noble' Lord made two or' three motions for the
produdion of domments, which chiefly respeaed
the number of Bank of Ireland Notes in circulation
at different periods.
A very short explanatory conversation took place
in consequence of the above, between his Lordship,
the Marquis of SLIGO, and Lord PELHAM, in tile
course'of which the Noble Marquis observed, that
' what fell from the Noble Lord (KING) now, and
once before, in that House, that he seemed to consi-
der the extensive Circulation of Paper in Ireland,
as coming chiefly from the Bank of Ireland, where-
as the Notes issued from thence in fan, formed. a
very small proportion of the Paper which was in
daily use in that part of the United Kingdom—
That the Bank of Ireland was the only Bank limit.
ed in its issue of Paper, and also, it was the only
one that must have value for every Note it had in
circulation ; that in fad, it was the only restrain(
on Private Banks, who, being'bound by Law to dis.
charge their own Notes with Bank of Ireland Paper,
but for that oblifOion might issue their' own Paper
to the utmost extent of their credit, Without the risk
of being compelled to give .any solid value for it :
from these circumstances he did not conceive the
papers called for would give
.much insight into the
causes of the depreciated state of Paper in Ireland ;
he believed now it bore a discount ot' between three
and four per Cent. and but for the Bank of Ireland
he had no doubt it might be as much more. Lord
SLIGO said his Lotdship was also in an error with re.
sped to the Bank Dicedors, to which he had before
alluded in no stile of compliment ; but the Mee.
tors of the Bank of Ireland were as respedlible a
body of Merchants as any in Great Britain, or in
the world.

The questions were then put upon Lord KING'S
several motions, and which, as we could collca,
were ordered accordingly.

Lord AUCKLAND then rose, in consequence of
what he stated on a former night, of his intention
to bring the general Financial Sitdation and Circum-
stances of the Country, particularly with respet
to the ReVenue, under discussion, to move for a
variety of Accounts relative to the above gene-
ral subjed. Having specified thp different heads,
his Lordship said, it wag his intention, were. they
ordered,, to propose they should lie on the Ta-
ble two or three clays for the inapeaion of. Noble
Lords, when he should move to have them printed,
mvioits to his fixing a day for stating his own de..
dations from them.

• The Documents called for by the Noble' Lord
chiefly respetled different heads of Revenue, the
produce of the Consolidated Fund, &e.

The Earl of MOIRA, in answer to some obser-
vations which fell from-the Noble Lord, as well as
in reference to what passed on a former night, en-
tered into some calculations tespeding the effeds of
the late Loan, and particularly with respet to that
part of it which was for the service of Ireland.
The Duke of NOkEOLK said a few words in
support of the Noble Earl's observations.

Lord AUCKLAND observed, in reply, that the
particular accounts adVerted to by the Noble Lords
Opposite to him, and ill their way of stating
them, were certainly liable to different interpteta•
lions : however, those he now moved for were
open to no such objedioas, but were in their nature
clear and simple.
The Earl of Motes explained.

Lord GRENVILLE took the opportunity to
make some general observations upon the subjea.
He expressed his opinion that the state of the Pub.
lic Revenue and Expenditure could not be too gene.
rally known. He rather disapproved of the course
of the proceeding suggested by the Noble Lord ;
lie seemed to think the Accounts should be printed,
in the first place, and a longer interval allowed for
their consideration. He wished the discussion might
take a larger and. more comprehensive scope than
seemed to be hinted at. The Public Expenditure
should he included in the consideration ; and on this
head, he was of
.opinion, that even in the present
SesSion it -was the duty of Parliament to meet the
Expenditure of the
,Country by an adequate Re.
venue.

Sbme detailed observations then took place be-
tween 14ordS AUCKLAND and Gitsr4viLLE, rtSpeet-
ing opposite dedudions drawn by those loble
Peers from the documents before the House, with
regard to a surplus or a deficit id the Revenue as
compared with the Expenditure ; in which the last
mentioned Peer contended that instead of a surplus
of nine, Millions, there was a deficit of four.

After some, farther conversation, the question on
the motion of Lord AUCKLAND were put, when
the Tapers were ordered accordingly.
At half past five o'clock their Lordships adjourn-
ed till Monday.

lIUUSE OF COMMONS.
FRIDAY, FEB. 25.
Ws understood, before the Gallery Door was open, that
the committees ()tithe !liminess and Kirkcudbright Elecitions
wero chosen.
A• Message from the Lords, stated that they hadlagreed to
the Bank Restriction Bill; without any Amendment. •
The Committee on. the Woollen Manutit4toty Petition are
to tilt te•morrow, notviithstamiiog an adjouranient or the
House:

rhe diI4NCELLOR cf tl,,e EXCHEQUER
said, in consequence of the indisposition ot Ai parti-
cular Gentleman, who could not attend the House,
h,~ should postpone the consideration of the Army
Extraordinaries to a future day. He then moved,
that the House should be called over on Thursday
next ; which was agreed to :—he also moved, that
the Names of those absent on the Call, should be re-
ported to the Sr EA.T.ER, on the Monday following ;
which wr4 also agreed to.
The following Gentlemen were chosen by Ballot
lot a Committee to try the merits of a Petition

eompiainlng of ad titular Elation for tke Bortsec
of Lisketird :

Lord C. S. Manners. N. C. Burton, Esq.
The Hon. C. Norton. T. I). Porter, Eiq.
Henry. Fans, Esq. Wm. Loftus, Esq,
Francis Browne, Esq. Charles Fernier, r,sq.
lames Graham, Esq. E. M.Muncly,, Esq.
Thos. W. Blake Webb, Esq. The Hon. Wm. Dundst.
The Hon. john Cust. John Fonblanque, Esq.

Curwen;-Esq: -
The following Gentlemen were also chosen by
ballot for a Committee to try the znerit6 of a Yeti.
tion complaining of an undue Eleetion for the City
of Ware: turd :

Hon. C. L. Dundas, . Sir Edw. Winnington, But.
%Vm. Cartwright, Esq. John Housten, Esq•
john Lembn, Esq. Francis W. Grant, Esq.
Lord Henry Petty, George Jennings, Esq.
John Pedley, Esq. Hon. Ed. Monck.ton,
Hon. George Ward, lohn B. Burton, Esq.
Charles Chapman, Esq. AND
fames Dawkins, Esq. Robert Ward, Esq.
On the Order of the Day being read, for the.
third reading of the Militia Training Bill,
General TARLETON said, it was not his inter.
tion to throw any impediment in the way of the
Bill passing through the House, but he could not re-
frain from making a few observations on it, before
it passed into a Law. However many Military
Gentlemen of high rank, had expressed their ap-
probation of the importance of a Militia in this
Country, yet he thought it was the duty of Ministers
to take great care of qur regular disposeable Troops,
and effcd every method possible to augment and sp-
,point them for the safety of the Country. The ac-
cessary recruiting, for the increase of our Militia,
would greatly prevent the increase of our disposable
Troopq, an whose discipline and strength we Mit
depend for protedion in case of a sudden stuck.
He observed, our neighbours had a great AelnYi. .
well disciplined—it was therefore necessary to keep
a watchful eye over their condua, and have tech ai:
Armed Force in this Country, as would tender any
attack made by them abortive. If the regular-Armed
Force of the Country did not receive some improfe.
merits, he shoold;• before the.close of the Session,
make. a Motion'to that effed.

chat the Hon. Gentleman's observations were 11/
The SECRATZRY at if.:4R.ssid, he thougbe
to
gether unnecessary in the present stage of the Bill,
and he could not but express his surprise that the
Hon. Gentleman should have eat and. heard the Bill
read twice, and never till this moment address the
House on the subject. Every care had been taken
to render the Army of this Country. effeftive, and
the Bill now before the House went to put the Mi-
litia of the Country on a better footing than it be-
fore had been. He knew well that our neighbours
have a numerous and well disciplined army, amount-
ing to five hundred thousand men, and that our Mi-
litia does not exceed fifty thousand; yet he was sure,
chat whenever equal numbers met in the field, our
men would not retire disgraced.
General TARLEiON explained.
The Bill then pasted, and was sent to the Lord
for their concurrence.
Adjourned-till Monday.
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