The Sun.
London, England, 1835-11-03 00:00:00

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LONDON.
TUESDAY EVENING, NOVEMBER 3, 1835.

The whole of the Paris Journals of Sunday have
been received. The Moniteur contains the copy of a
telegraphic dispatch from Bayonne, dated the 28th of
October, which announces that, according to Carlist
bulletins, Vittoria was besieged on the 19th by the
insurgents, and that on the 22d it continued to make a
very vigorous defence. This announcement is con-
tradicted, on what the Moniteur states to be more
correct information in the next ptiragraph. According
to the second version of the intelligence, the Carlist
artillery had only ventured to approach Mondragon,
and on the 20th re-entered Onate, whither Don
CARLOS retired with his forces on the arrival of COR-
DOVA at Miranda. The greatest discord and disunion
is stated to prevail among the Usurper's officers. For
some cause, which is not mentioned, the Prince had
disgraced General EGIUA, whereupon that officer
addressed an energetic remonstrance to Don CARLOS,
couched in language which betrayed a much more in-
timate acquaintance with the discipline of camps than
the etiquette of Courts. The Bon Sens states
that the Carlists have sustained another defeat
in Catalonia, in the neighbourhood of Molins del
Rey. As the numbers reported as killed, wounded,
and made prisoners, exactly correspond with those
in the account published in The Sun of Satur-
day—namely, about 800, including 200 prisoners—
we are inclined to believe that the Bon Sens is behind
ourselves with its advices from Navarre. The same
journal informs us that the Cadiz Junta has placed
8,000 well-equipped troops at the immediate disposal
of the Government, and that the Province has en-
gaged to defray all their expenses during the war, over
and above raising such supplies as may be voted by
the Cortes. Perhaps more important than all this
put together, is an announcement in the Temps,
which, after all, may turn out to be nothing more
than a mere rumour. What we allude to is a para-
graph in that journal, which says, that the French
Government have sent off very pressing despatches to
M. DE RAYNEVAL, the French Ambassador at Ma-
drid, imploring him to join heart and soul with Mr.
VILLIERS, in upholding and strengthening the Go-
vernment and general policy of M. MENDIZAB A L. The.
same paper adds, that the French Cabinet now
begin to regard Mr. VILLIERS as a very great
man, although three weeks have not elapsed since his
despatches were all but committed to the flames on
reaching the Foreign Office. We care not on what
grounds the French Government join in•a devoted sup-
port of M. IVIENDIZABAL, provided it does really sup-
port him. Although France cannot place Don CAR-
LOS on the Spanish Throne, yet, by intrigues directed

against the QUEEN, she could easily protract the war
to an indefinite period. Her cordial co-operation with
England, is therefore of the utmost importance.
The Court of Peers is summoned to meet in a judi-
cial capacity on the 16th, to proceed first with the
trial of the prisoners of April, and then to enter upon
an inquiry into the FIESCHI conspiracy.
The following account of a rather curious trial
which took place before the Paris Tribunal on Satur-
day, is borrowed from the Paris correspondence of
our Contemporary the Morning Post :
" In April last Madame Koch, the lady of a Colonel who
is professor in the Royal College of the Etat Major, was
crossing the Rue St. Antoine with her daughter, when she
was upset by a carriage, which happened to be that of the
Earl of Granard. Madame Koch was raised from the
ground, covered with blood, two of her ribs having been
broken, together with a tooth. Notwithstanding the crowd
gathered about her, the person in the carriage looked out
only to desire the coachman to drive on. Lord Granard
did not, if we believe a very improbable allegation, even
send a messenger to inquire into the lady's condition. In
consequence of this neglect, Colonel and Madame Koch
brought an action against the Noble Earl for damages, on
the plea that Madame K's. health had been seriously in-
jured, that she had been confined to her bed upwards of
forty days, and been compelled to proceed to a watering
place for the recovery of her health. Their Counsels yes-
terday demanded damages to the amount of 10,000 francs.
Lord Granard's Counsel, on the other hand, urged that the
affair would have been settled from the commeneement had
not 20,000 francs been required of his Lordship for with-
drawing the action, and that, besides, he was not bound to
pay the expenses of such excursions as the plaintiff might
choose to make for her pleasure and amusement. The
matter ended in Lord Granard's being sentenced to pay
6,000 franc's of damages, and his coachman being trans-
ferred from his Lordship's stables to prison for a period of
eight days."
PARIS, Nov. I.—A letter from Madrid, of the 21st of
Sept., says that the troops under the command of Colonel
Villapadierna, which formed the column of the Count de
las Navas, had commenced their march for Lower Arragon,
whither the Government had ordered them.
A brigade of 2,000 men, organized in the province of
Jaen, to form a part of the corps at Andujar, was ready to
set out for Lower Arragon, on the 16th. The other corps
of Andalusia were to piloceed to the same destination. It
seems that General Epinosa is to have the command of this
division, retaining, however, the post of Captain-General
of Andalusia.t-Indicateur.
We are assured that our Ministers, imitating the tactics
often employed under the restoration, have succeeded in
getting the columns of some English journals opened to
them. It will be easy to recognise those English Journals
which are now devoted to our doctrinaires. Nor will it be
more difficult to find their correspondents, who reside at
Paris, and have direct intercourse with the Ministry.—
Impartial.
The Journal des Debats says this morning that General
Allard shows but very little alarm respecting the check
which the English Journals say has been sustained by the
troops of Runject Singh. He does not believe it possible
for the Afghans to pass the Indus, and from the Indus to
Lahore there is a tract of country of 150 leagues in extent,
and well defended.
We may add that the accounts given by the English
Journals are of such an old date, that General Allard was
acquainted with them before he left Calcutta.—Messager.

The lamentable condition of the poor of Ireland—
of which we are every clay receiving the most heart-
rending accounts—is calculated to fill every feeling
mind with _doubts of the presence of an over-ruling,
all-beneficent Providence in that unhappy land. To
ponder 'llion the scenes of wretchedness with which
even the industrious poor are familiar—to contemplate
the appalling spectacle of helpless infants and decrepid
old creatures perishing with hunger—to dwell upon
the anguish of a parent driven by the sight of his fa-
mishing children, to trample upon the sacred laws of
GOD and man by violating the property of his neigh-
bours, and perhaps entailing upon himself an after-
life of shame, suffering, and remorse—is enough to
fill the mind with dark uncertainties, only reconcilable
by the conviction that Heaven will, in its own good
time, adjust the balance between the oppressor and
the oppressed.

But in the meanwhile we must not shut our
eyes to such a state of things. England assumes
the right of governing Ireland, and is, therefore,
responsible to a certain extent, for evils which could
not exist, did she not tolerate them. The Irish
people stretch forth their hands, and to us for
help. We must—it is our duty to endeavour to re-
lieve them. During the long time the Tories swayed,
the destinies of the people of this country, the great
bulk of the English population knew less about the
condition of Ireland than they did about the situation
of the slaves in our plantations. The Court party
neither sought, nor desired to ameliorate the condition
of any portion of the Irish people, with the exception
of the Orange Faction, into whose hands the nation
was virtually delivered up, as a reward for supporting
by its Parliamentary influence the grossest abuses in
ChUrch and State. A reform in Parliament has,
among other things, made England acquainted with the
actual condition of Ireland ; as well as served to point
out the only means by which the sufferings of the in-
habitants can be ameliorated. We can no longer de-
ceive ourselves with a hope that we have acted
up to our convictions, unless we actually com-
pel the Irish landlords to contribute towards
the support of their tenantry, by the establishment of
a wholesome system of Poor Laws. In fact, without
Poor Laws nothing can be done which shall perma-
nently relieve the Irish people. Railways, and canals,
and the drainage of bogs, and the cultivation of waste
lands, would do much to improve that country ; but
our conviction is, that neither railways will, be laid
down, nor canals dug, nor bogs drained, nor waste
lands cleared, till the absentee landlords find themselves
burthened with the maintenance of an able-bodied,
useless tenantry.

We are glad to find that Mr. O'CONNELL is now
convinced of the necessity of making a legal provision
for the poor of Ireland ; and that henceforth we may
calculate upon his co-operation in support of such a
measure. Nothing, however, can be more prepos-
terous than his references to the evils caused by the
abuse of such a system in England. Mr. O'CON-
NELL ought to know that there is not the
slightest comparison between the relative condition
of England and Ireland. In this country there
are no wastes to reclaim—no outlets for the establis-
ment of any process of remunerating industry. Ireland
is to this country, what the prairies of the Far West are
to the best cultivated farms in the neighbourhood of
New York. Until the vast internal resources of
England were brought into full play, her Poor Laws
were among her national blessings, because they gave
the most powerful impulse to her industry ; but when
manufactures were established, and trade carried on,
and the means of constant employment procured for the
whole of her people ; then they were found to be fraught
with evil, because they held out inducements to idleness,
of which the more vicious were ever ready to take ad-
vantage. Before Ireland has any reason to apprehend
the evils which England has suffered from the esta-
blishment of Poor Laws, her people must have ad-
vanced to the same stage in the cultivation of the liberal
arts ; the progress of manufacturing industry ; the ex-
ploring of mines ; and, we would add, without offence,
the knowledge and the practice of social and self-go-
vernment. When Ireland begins to rival England in
these things, then she shall be justified in talking of
amending or abolishing the laws for the maintenance
of a system of able-bodied voluntary pauperism—but
not before.

We have not yet had time to examine with sufficient
care the masses of evidence on this subject contained
in the'Reports made during the last Session of Parlia-
ment. The subject has not,. however, escaped our
memory ; and we trust, before parliament meets again,
to be able to lay The subcflancc of all that has been pub-

lished before the readers of The Sun. We believe
the Government has taken up the question, and that
preparations have been set on foot for advancing some
stages in the business before the opening of the next
Session, so that no delay may take place in the passing
of some law for the prevention of starvation in Ire-
land. Such, at least, is the current opinion, and
should it be hereafter proved to be incorrect, we posi-
tively see no course which the Irish nation can adopt
for the relief of its distresses, unless the management
of its own affairs; without seeking either the support,
the concurrence, or the toleration of Great Britain.
If we do not govern Ireland on principles of equity—
such as are recognized by every reflecting person
in
this country—if we stop our ears against the appeals for
national justice—then, we say Ireland has an inherent
right to assert her claim to the sole government of
herself.