The Sun.
London, England, 1859-03-29 00:00:00

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THE SUN, CONDO
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lORTHAMPTON RACES. SHARE MARKET.-(THIS DAY.) - BRITISH POSSESSIONS.
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.--.4--,. Closing
rrioe. Business
(THIS DAY). ORDINARY SHARES AND STOCKS, Sharel Railways.
(Paid, Done.
• -----0.-. Closing Business ---L-----
Share Railways. 'Pall Price. .
[BY ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH.] lOO Atlantic &St Lawrence all 85 88
TRIAL STAKES. 12. i 0 Amberg Notting,. Bost. Leased at 6 per cent.. o
1 and Eastern Jun 10 861 18 Bom.,Baroda&Centlnd 131 1} d
gu. 5 per cent
** 5O Belfast and Ballymena.. all - - i
2 13.14 Bir., Wol., and Str. Val. all 74 84 18 Do all - -
Zee 3 Stock Birk., Lane., and Chesh. 18 Do. Addit. Capital A6i 1„ d 1
f Junction lOO 62 64 18 Do. Do. 841 f 1 d /
Twelve ran. 25 Blackburn all 11 111 201 Buffalo and Lake Huron all 61 7 c
_ 25 Blyth and Tyne all 32 15 201 Do. New l6l -- d 0
Stock Bristol and Exeter .... 100 92 94/ 94 100 f Buffalo,Brant&Godrich / 100 85 90
LATEST BETTING. Stock Caledonian
• • NORTHAMPTONSHIRE STAKES. Stock Chester and Holyhead , 100 - - 100 Do. do. 1 July, 1873 100 82 80
50 Cork and Bandon all • - 190 Do. do. 1 June, 1874 100 80 84 t
sto 1 agst Little Agnes 20 Cork, Blkrock,&Passage all - - 20 Clcutta.&S.Eaatrn.Lim. 1. 3.0. par il'
7to 1 agst Newcastle 20 Cornwall all 5 5} 20 Cape,Eastn. Prov.(Lim.) 2s. - -
Bto 1 agst Gladiolus 10 Do. A A 'wee. no div 20 Cape Town & Dock Sorip 2s. 1 1
all --__ -__ 20 Central Oude (Limited) 25.2d• - -- t
until6p.c.per an.
11 to 1 bar three . 10 Do. B hasbeep pd.toß. 20 Ceylon Guaranteed 6p.c
171 Demerara - -
15 to 1 agst Blue Jacket . 50 Dublin andßelfast Juno. all - -
25 Dublin Abr.Junc. all 84 9 W 3 Eastern Bengal.gu.sp.c. 5 1 1 (11 41 e
EARL SPENCER'S PLATE. Stock East Anglian lOO 16 161 Stook East Indian, gu. sp. c„, 100 102 103 1021 4 t i
- Btol on the field.(offered) Stock Eastern Counties lOO 594 60/ 60 1 20 Do. C Shares all - - b
20 Do. E Shares Ext l5 1 / p 151
Stock Eastern Union A Stock 100 45 47
was scratched for the Northampton Stakes, lasi Stock Do. do. B Stock 100 30 32 20 Do. Jubbulpore - - h
25 Do.Nw.A.(lte.E.U3ds) Si - 100 D 0.41 p.c. Bds. pay.'s9 all - - t
25 East Kent all 13 15 20 G eelong.k Mel.gua.s p. c. all 191 201
ED.-Queen of the May, Spinet, Cock-a-hooP/ Stock East Lancashire lOO 92 93 92 sto. (Geelong Corporation 6 lOO _ r
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Macbeth, Hesperithusa, Cripplegate, Rattlebone, 20 East Suffolk all - - t per cent. Bonds li
Stock Grand Trunk of Canada 100 35 37 354 6
10 Do -
bachess, Earl of Essex, Horace, Lady Grosvenor/ Stock Edinburg and Glasgow 100 729 731 100 Do. 6 p.c. Deben.,pay.'m all 75 77 4
Oily, Agra, Broadlands, Fadladeen, Spiteful Dick, Stock Edin.,Perth, & Dundee. 100 27 27 100 Do. 6 per cent. Pref lOO 93 94 93 t
20 GtlndiaPenin.gua.sp.c all 101 102 1011
10 Forth & Clyde Junction all -n
q Arc, Fusee, Childrey, Yarra-yarra, Supple Jack, Stock Furness - 20 Do. New, gua.s per cent. 4 par it p
20 Do. do
and Seclusion. Stock Glasgow & South West'. 103 93 94 n
10 Great North of Scotland all 10 101 20 f Gt.S.of Ind. 1 2s. - - j
Stock Great Northern lOO 103 104 103 1 ( guaranteed 5 per cent. )
1200 1
Do. NBoenwds
pay.
s.gy MARKET AND CITY NEWS. Stock Do. do. A Stock lOO 87 89 2gl Gt.W. of Canada Shares all 15 14 16 m
'76,with
Stock Do. do. B Stock lOO 132 134 132
1 la3ll 10331
10544 1 1 4 4 d
..-_*--- Stock Gt. South.& Wstn.(lreld) 100 105 106 v
CITY, Two o'CLocir Great Western
100 Do. do. '73 till '6O all 103 105
' Stock
'ock Do.Str.Vl.Rail Gua.Stk. 100 56 581
e Foreign and Colonial Produce Markets 12 Irish South Eastern.... all - - 100 Do. do. ''/3 without opt. all 103 105
ancaster and Carlisle. all 83 87 100 Do. 4p. c. do. '77 do
the past few days have been exceedingly VI DoL -. Thirds
20 Do. do. 5 per cent. all 19 20 191 t
1613 4 Do. Yew iit- 121 p
Thirds 095 944
16
re, and the few transactions reported have in 20 Do. 41 p. c. Extension.. 15 18 1/4 18 (
stock Laccas.hire & Yorkshire 100 20 Do. Third Ex. gua.s.p.e. 10 1 d
1 instances shown a slight downward move- 16 Do. do. F £l6 6l id 20 Do. Fourth do.
9 Do. do. ..." guar"- 7 - r
Stook Melb. Corp. 6 p.c. Bonds 100 - -
in prices. Tea has continued very dull, but 3 Do. West Wel' f Union 1 - -
.1 ni Newßrunsvvick&Canda.
'' t former rates. In sugar, the chief trans- 20 Do. Southport .... all - - 20 { Ry.&Land(Lim.)g.tpc 10 - _d r
. Stock London and Blackwai.l- all 67 69 Class ACapitl.Share i,
• I have been in the finer qualities for home - Do.Newiss.at 2510sp.sh. - -.. Do. do. Land do • • r
reption, and late prices have been with diffi-
Stock Lon.. Brighton &S.Coast 10 20 Do. do. B. Capital do. 110 - --d
112
Igi 113
,i 4 5
Stock London & North Westn 100 .. Do. do. Land do 1 S
1 1 1 0 NorthoflndiaTramroad 1 28. -
' tipported. In the Refined Market there has 121 Do. Eighths 7a 92i g 3 021 1 20 I
Stock London& South-Westn lOO Limited, Scrip s
Very little activity, and prices remain unal- 25 L'derry & Coleraine ... all - - 20 Oude (Limited) - - a
Coffee has been in fair,request, and good 25 L'derry & Enniskillen. all 3-; iss-i 20 Scinde .3 -4 1151 / p c
Stock Man., Shef., & Lincoln.. 100 20 Do.
ties of plantation being scarce, have realised 10 Metropolitan
100 101 1011 1014 1 20 Do. New F!
..) 10 1 d 1 p N
dues. Rice continues inactive •and in fruit,
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Stock Midland'
Stock Do. Birming. & Derby lOO 74 76 20 Do. Pun sub .. a c., 5 1 lat
a i
20 Do. Indus. St. Flo. 12,,, 10 d par
and saltpetre, the transactions have been on 50 Mid. Gt. West. (Ireland) all - - 20 St. Andrews & Quebec A 18 - - t
25 Do. 1 Shares all - ' 10 ,Trinidad(Limited) Scrip 1 Icl par
1)r limited scale. Tallow has been moderately 100 Neastle and Carlisle all - 1
' • . 25 New., Aber., & Herefd all 11 12 E
in, but chiefly on speculative account, and 10 Newry & Armagh (def ) 9 - FOREIGN RAILWAYS. i
il show a downward tendency. P.Y.C. on 20 Newry Warpt., & Roe all -
Stock Norfolk lOO 60,,, 62 . ]
e
10 Antwerp & Rotterdam all 41 51
POt is now quoted 535. ; April to tune delivery, 50 'North. Counties Union 3l 64 gd „„ 1
Stock North British lOO 60 CO5 ul-'4 20 Ardennes all -- p
13(1. ; and last three months, 535. sa. per cwt. Stock Nor.Dev.Rail.&Dk. Stk. 100 - , 20 Bah.&S.Fran.,Lim.7p.c 3 4 idi e
5 Belgian East. Junction all f 1 1
fitters from Liverpool report that in the Cotton Stock Do. A Stk.- Arec.no div.
until 6p.c.hasbeenpdß 100 - 20 Beziers to Graissessae. all --- (
i et, yesterday, a fair amount of business was Stock Do. B Stock lOO - 5 Carmeaux Mine & Rail. all 11 21 I
stock North-Eastn.--Berwick 100 921 El 93 21 20 Dutch Rhenish
'l4eted, and prices were very firm. The sales
'estimated at 10,000 bales. In the Railway
te Stock Do. Leeds
Stock Do. York
Market a limited number of transactions Stock North London
recorded, and quotations tended downwards.
e arrivals of specie this morning include the 2° N° 100 47 471
St2s k Do. do. G.N.E.Purchase 1.613 4 1/ 11 d
100 102 104
10 N. &S.Westn.,Hampstd 100
764
77
and City Junction £3 Is. -
North Staffordshire l7l
20 North-Western
all 14 144
ay from the United States; with £112,198 ; 10 No. & Sou. W. Junction all 7 8
Dolphin, from Antwerp, with £367,000; and
Castor, from Hambro', with £43,000.
oa
k Opoxfrtosrmd,o:ohr. & Wolyer lOO 331 341
10 Peebles ' all --
St:::
10 Rhymney
ey continues in active
.request, and full Stock Scottish Central
are still demanded in the general market. Stock Scoth. N.E., Aber. stock 00
119 7 5 d
10 11i- li-2
100 261 27
Stock Do. Scottish Mid. Stock 100 84 85
100 46 48 d 6 Eastern of France ...... all 261 27
20 Euphrates galley 29. - - p
20 Great Central of France all - -
20 Gt. Luxem., Con. sha
10 Italian Junction .., 8 - -
20 Lake Constance & Bale all - -
20 Lierre and Turnhout all - - . .
20 Lombardo Venetian 8 14 lip St t
20 Lucca & Pistoja, 5 p.c.pf all - -
20 Lyons and Geneva - -
331 Maria Antonia
20 Do. do. New
20 Namur and Liege
•20 Do. do. 6p. c. Prof. all - -
all - -
all 81 8
all 20 20
16 Northern of France
20 Do. New Shares - - p
10 Norwegian Trunk Pref. all 9 10
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rations are now being made for the coni-
hropshire Union
10 Sittingbourne & Sheer all 31 24 0
.3tock S
141. bills due on the 4th proximo, and the set- Stoat South Devon lOO 39 40 39
100 7CI /01 20 Ottoman, gua. 6 per cent 7 - -
20 Paris,Lyons, and Medit. all 331 34 331
20 Paris and Orleans ...... all 53 55
tits at the Stock Exchange Will also augment
quiry. The supply of capital, however, is
very abundant, and although the forthcoming 20
may produce an unfavourable effect, an
Y return of stri e•
tiered probable. roc: South-Eastern
o s
20 Do. do lOO 65 65
18 - -
stain's, Wok., & Wok all 8 11
25 Do. do. 1855
ssure is scarcely 25 Do. do. .1858
n,ency or pre -
p ere was a special meeting to-day of the pro-
nrs of the Eastern Bengal Railway Company,
,• Leith, Esq., in the chair, for the purpose of
into consideration the propriety of convert- Stock20 SouthYorks.&Riv.Dun. all 60 70
25 StockWn & Darlington. all 364 374
7 -
Stockton & Hartlepool 144 --
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Stock Taff Vale ......
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Stock Do. Preference, No. 1 . 100 - -
25 ThamesHavenDkAßial 22 - -
Vale of Neath . . 100 65 70
Stock Waterford & Kilkenny 100 -
50 Waterford & Limerick all - -
20 West Cornwall
10 W-end Lou. & Cry. Pal all -
into stock the shares of the company paid up in 5 Do.A.-Arecv.nodiv.till
7 p.c. has been pd. to B all 2 3
, The chairman stated that the opinion of the 5 Do. B all 6 64
k,t
Itor-General.had been taken, and was adverse 20 West London
10 Do. Ist Class all -
all - - 20 Recife& S. Fran. (Fern.) 1 .
gua. 7p. et. (Lim.) ... j 9 .1 1 d
20 Riga and Duisburg.... 4 -
10 Rome and Frascati .... all - -
20 Royal Danish
6 Royal Swedish - -
all - -
4 Do. 7 per cent. Pref. - -
20 Sambre and,Meuse.
10 Do. 4 per ce'nt. Pref.
20 Southern of France
8/ West Flanders all 531 6
10 Do. 51 p. c. Preference
20 W. & N.W. of France all 2 241
20 Western of Austria .. - -
20 Westei aof Switze•Aand all - -
6 Wiesbaden - -
6 Do 8 per cent. Pref all - -
20 Zealand. - -
BRITISH MINES.
raid. Closing Business
(tile conversion till the whole capital was paid 20 Do. 2d Class l_4l_____-_.l_2---1-------
-------IRt FEIr SHAltES,_____________ Share Mines.
The meeting then adjourned. Price. Done.
,
Ile market for the English Funds has been Share!
Railways. Price. Easiness
Done.
Paid. Closing
tt to-day, few real or speculative transactions ---1--------a--------
25 Blythe an Tyne 11 per - Alfred Consols (Philack) 2.11.10 4 71 64
20 pritish Iron
110 g taken plave. The operators seem disinclined c. pref. (issued at £5O) all 49 51 - Condurrow (Camborne) 2O - -
rater •
er into large engagements while political 1 Stk Bris. & Exet.4p.ct.Stock 100 95 97
20 Do. do. do. Shares - - 10 Devon G. Cons. (Taunt.) 1 465 475
- East Bassett (Illogan). 30 230 210
sat home and abroad are in such an uncertain tock Caledon 210, 41 per cent 100 103 105 - Great South Tolp•,us.. 17s 12 14
12.10 Do. Quar. Shares, No. 2. 7.10 - - - G.WhealAlfd.(Phillack-) 11.18.8 21 3/
tlion Consols are 954 I,- for money and the 7th Stock Chester & Holyhd, 51 pc 100 - -- -G. Wheal Vor(Helston) 91 4 I
Stock Do. do. sp. ct. lOO - - - Lady Bertha
- North Frances (Mogan)
Clirno, and 954 96 for May. India Loan Deben- 61 Cork & Bandon, 51 p. c. all - - 18586di
71
811
as
are steady at 981 • and Exchequer Bills at of Dun. Perth,& Aber.Jun. all 54 64 - North Wheal Crofty 7.9.4 7 8
I. to 355. Fem. - ' Stock E.Angn. Class A 7 & spc 100 98 101
Stock Do. do. Class B 6 pc.... 100 112 116 1141 14 - N.Wh'l Basset (Mogan) nil. 910
- Par Consols (St. Blaxy) 11 14 15
--- Porkellis Unit. ON end.) 9 - -
I'tk fair amount of business has been transacted in Stock Do. do. Class C 7 pc .... 100 108 112
Stock E. Conn. Ex. 5 pct. No.l 100 114 114 -- Sortridge Cons. Min. Co. 6s . 4
Foreign Stock Market, but prices generally are
it Stock Do. do N 0.2 100 112 11
Stock Do. New 6 per ct. Stock 100 129 131 - SouthCaradon (St.Cleer) 21 465 47
-• Korth C. Brea', Mogan). 2 21 3
der lower. Turkish 6 per Cents. are 921 to 93 Stock Eastern Union, 4 per ct. 100 82 84 824 - S Wheal Fran. (Illogan) 18.18.9 200 210
17°, New Loan, 781 to 791 ; and the 4 per Cents. '-itliT.T'aYeo.rl.PJecrnetlifthe la I-- 7--
Stosck .. 5 Tamar Silver and Lead
Mining Co 4l 11 2
;' marked. 1024 to 1034 ; Grenada Active, 20 ; Stock Edin.&Glas. spc shares 100 - - 10 Tin Croft 9 4 41
Stock Edin. Perth,& Dun. 4 pc. 100 71 73 - UnitedMines(Gwennap) 40 --•- -
4Zezue 1 a n 5 per Cents. have receded to 421 ; Bra- Stock Furness, 5 per cent .... 100 - - - Vale of Towey (Caren,; 12a ad '4 1
- West Basset (Mogan). 11 21 23
,k h4l per Cents., to 944 ; Russian 5 per Cents., ~:tock Glas. ALS West. cr a. spc. 100 no 112
oiock Great Northern, sp. ct. 100 118 120 - W. Caradon (Liskeard) 2O 75 80
- Wheal Basset (Mogan) 5l 190 200
`llO4 • Portuguese, to 454; Spanish Deferred, to Stock Do. spc Redm.,lop.c.pm 100 110 112
I, 0 Stoc,..k Do. 44 p. ado. do. - Wheal Buller (Redruth) 5 130 140
, ; and the Certificates, to 5. The New Austrian 100 no.sp.c. Redm.,s pc. pm 6O 63 6.5 Wheal Edward (Gals.).. 51 21 :34
11 is 1 dis. to par. 10 Gt. ilh. of Scotld, let JA all 11 11/ - Wheal Kitty (U. Lelani 1.7.2 11 12
Gt. Sn.& W (Ireland)4 )4 IDo - Wh'l Ma7Ann (Mcnhe 8 47 49
111 the Railway Share Market the dealings have Ip. ct. pref. Stock - Wh'l Tre awney (Lick. 41 30 32
stock
Great West. (Berke and 6 - - .
On a rather • limited scale. Prices, however, Hants)Ext. 5 p.ct.
some instances, have shown a slight improve- Stock Do.leetemmaabbre: 444 p. et lOO 96 98
p ct. 100 87 tit FOREIGN MINES
t. Great Northern, Great Western, Brighton, stock
Do.o 1.-redeemable, ao lOO 88 90 20 Australian
a North British advanced ss. North Western, 8 Do. Birm, Prof. Shares all 91 104
Stock Do. sp, ot. Redeem. Pref. 100 100 102 1 Bon AccordCopper,Lim. 108 4 I P
35 Brazil. Imp. (is. at £5 p.) 27 1
Guth Western, and Midland declined ss. ; and 10 Gts.hWareesst.
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all 161 171 20 . Do.St.Johndelßey,Lim. 15 11 12 114
5 Do. Land and Mining Co. all 11 2
etth Eastern (Berwick), 10s. 10 Do. do. sp• ct. pref• •• • • all
.1g lot 1 Clarendon Consols Min-
' The Foreign
lines are rather flat. Paris and
tYons and Northern of France declined ss. L
it om- .
Stock Do Binning. guar. stOek I°9 7;4 ill
264 Do. Chester guar.share all -4 .. 1
13-k Do. do. do
20 Do. do. do.
1J 14 IA ins Co. of Jamaica ... / -- d
40 Cobra Copper
- Coplapo all 36 38
16 10 12
1 DunMoun.Cop.Ming.Co all 4 i
do-Venetian Old Shares are at 94 to 94, and the stool; Lan. & York 6 p.c. stock 100 140 142 2 Fortuna
/gVI? Shares at Bt,- to 81. Stock Lon.&Brig.spc. gu. No.l 100 - - 20 General all 23 25
3 Linares
1 Stock Do. pref., sp. C. ...No. 2 100 -- - all 91 101
a the Colonial Market Grand Trunk of Canada Stock Do. New gua., 6p. ct... 100 - - 5 Lusitaniau
Stock Do. do. sp. c. No. 4 100 - - 1 Mariguita all 4 i
Proved. 10s. ; ' Great Western of Canada, ss. Stock Lon.&N.W.Cov.&igun-
eat Indian Peninsula declined 55., and Easts pet
Stock L Baton,
- • •
on. &S. W, 7 p.ct. stock, 100 118 126 1184
. 1 New Granada all - -
1 N.RhineCop.of S.Aus.L 10 4 t p
20 Pontgibaud Silver, Lead
dian improved ss. late 3d shares lOO 160 165 Mining and Smelt.... all 4 5
121 Londondy & Cole, 1 she all - - 5 Port Philip
Joint Stock Bank and Miscellaneous Shares are 12 Londondy.k Ennis i sh. all - - 30 Santiago de Cuba l6l 1 1
Stock Man.,Sh., & Lin., 6p. ct. 100 123 125 28.2.81 United Mexican all 24 21 ,
It about former quotations. Ottoman Bank declined 44 ii ii)
i'l• and Peninsula and Oriental Steam improved Stock Do. 31 per cent.
. 6 Do. £6
100 70 72 COLONIAL GOVERNMENT SECURITIES.
1/41121 \
Maryport & Car., 4 p.c. all - -
,„, Do. 4 per cent .. - _ Share Securities. raid. Closing Business
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To-morrow is the last day for applications for '44 Do. . ... . ..... .. .. . . 14 - - Prices. Done.
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Shares • et• 100 139 141 - ----
ares in the Whittington Estate and Colliery Stock Do.Con.Bris.&Bir.6p. . __
Stock Mid. 'con. 6.p. c. Stock' . 100 - -
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Stock Do. 41. p. c. pref. stock lOO 101 103 - Can.Gov.6p.c.Ja. & July 100 115 116 1151
company. The quotation is 1 4 prem. 1 p - Do. 6 p.c.Fb..&Aug. 100 113 115
6 Do. with option till 1860 3 4
Stock Do. Leis & Hitpref. st. 100 94
96 - Do. 6 p.e.Mr & Sep. 100 113 115
10 1 Newport,Aber,&c.pret.s 1 all 9/ 10 - N.8.G0v.6 p.c. Ja. &JUly 100 1111 1121
-- Do. 6 p.c.An. & Oct. 100 - --
titITISH FUNDS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK.
i _p. c. redeem, at 5 p.c.° m
10 Do, Perpet, 6p. c. with - N. S.W. Gov. 5 p., c. Deb. 100 103 104
! Per Cent. Consols Annuities .. - NovaSco.ir Gov. c. St.
option till 1866
44di
, a Stock
- S.Aus.Gt.6 pc.Jan&July 100 1111 1121
r.,llltto Debentures 9Bl sock Do. sp. c. Ext.Stock,lB46 100 - - - Vict-Gov.6p.c.Jan&July 100 - -
4naols for Account 954 4 stool- Do. 51 p. c. Pref. do. 1847 100 - -
________ _ JOINT-STOCK BANKS.
Stock :10. Way.VM.Ex.Sk 1847 100 - -
March. June.
Ditto
Bills, £l,OOO, 2d. & ltd.. 35 2 i - Stock Noth British, 5 per cent 100 111 113
Stock Do. yew, au& 5 per cent 100 - -
uitio Small, lid. - Stock Nth.Dc7.Rail.&DA.Co. 100 - -
Stock N-East. in*ed. 4 p.c. Deb. 100 - - Sharei Joint-Stock Banks. Paid. ,I Closing I Business
PRICES OF FOREIGN FUNDS AT ONE O'CLOCK. Stock Do. Berwick. 4p. c. Pref. 100 97 98 I Price. Done.
14razilian 5 per Cent. - 17 Do. do. do. 8.13A. 1 1 d
~. Ditto 1858, 41 per Cent. - - 100 Agra&UnitedServiceßk 50 68 70
,_tirenada New Active, 34 per Cent. - - 40 Australasia all -
. !lexical' 3 per Cent. 214 i 25 Po. York, H. &S. Punh. 10 1d p 25 Bank of Egypt.
rortuguese, 1853, 3 per Cent. - 20 North Staffordshire . . all 24 231
Stock Ox.srr. & Wol.6pc. Ist 100 123 125 100 Bank of London 5O 45 47
40 Col. Bk. & LoanCo all - -
Russian, 1822, £ St., 4 per Cent llO4 Stock Do. do. do., 2d gua lOO 118 120 50 Britssh North American) all -- 57
Elpanish 3 per Cent. ... - Stock D0.41p.c. Db.stkin perp 100 99 101 20 Chfcl. Bank of India, &c, 10 14 1 d
Ditto New Deferred, 3 per Cent. 3ot 81 Scottish Central, new pi all - 100 City 5O 62 64
Bpanish Com. Cert. of Coup. not funded.. 5 Stock Scottish N.-Eastern deb 100 100 Colonial - -
I.urkiah 6 per Cent. 93 24 Stock Do. 31 per c. pref. stock 100 ..„. -
Stock Do.Aberdeen.gua.6 pc. 100 - - 20.11 Com. Bark of Canada all - -
100 Commercial of London 2O - -
Ditto New Loan - - 20 Eng., Scot., & Aus. Ch. all 151 164
Ditto Guaranteed, 4 per Cent. -
Venezuelan 5 per cont. - - 20 Lon.Char.BkotAustral. all 231 24 231
Dividends on the above payable in London. 1.0.6. South Eastern (Reading 50 London and County ... 20 - -
Ann., 1.0.6.) all 24 241 50 London Joint Stock ... 10 --•-
TWO O'CLOCK. 103 102 101 100 London & Westminster. 20 - -
Consols, Money 954 4 Stock Do .41 per cent
Stock Do. Fixed 41 p.c. lstis lOO 102 104 100 Nat. Prof,. of England. 35 - -
Consols for Account (April 7) .... 954 4 Stock Do. New do., 2cl issue. 100 - - , 20 Do. new • 10 - -
-Ditto, May 951 6 Stock South Wales, gua. 4 p.c. 100 - - 50 National Bank 25 - -
Stock Do. 41 per cent lOO 20 New South Wales
20 S.-Yorkshire, 4 p.c. gua. all - - 25 Orient. Bk. Corporation all - -
LAW , INTELLIGENCE.-(THIS DA Y.) 251 Stockton and Dar. 5 p.e. all 284 29i 20 Ottoman Bank all 214 211 211
25 Do. 6 per cent all 321 331 Provincial of Ireland - ---
. Stock Waterford & Kilkenny, 10 Do. New all - - 27 •
• COURT OF BANKRUPTCY. 6 per cent. -
25 Do. New
2525 UDnoi.onNeowf Australia R1217014 72 :: .. .
• IN RE THE ROYAL BRITISH BANK. LINES LEASED A FIXED RENTALS_--
To-day was appointed for a private meeting under this ----------
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bankruptcy. Mr. Commissioner Holroyd not having re- Paid. Leasing Closing Blllltheell 50 Union of Loudon lO
RailWays.oo Unity Mutual 55 .
- • - - - i Co. C's. Price. Done. 100 Western Bk of London 50 211„2040
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Closing Business --'------
Share Railways. 'Paid. Price. •
100 Atlantic &St Lawrence all 85 88
12.10 Amberg., Notting,. Bost. Leased at 6 per cent.,
and Eastern Jim:A-ion 10 8 6} 18 Bom.,Baroda&Cent.lnd 13. 1 1 d
50 Belfast and Ballymena., all - - 18 Do gu. all
5 per cent
13.14 Bir., Wol., and t2tr. Val. all n 4 - -
Stock Birk., Lane., and Chesh. 18 Do. Addit. Capital A 6 i 1„ d
Junction lOO 62 64 18 Do. Do. 841 1 1 d
25 Blackburn all 11 111 201 Buffalo and Lake Huron all 61 7
25 Blyth and Tyne all 32 25 20i Do. New l6l -- d
100 I Buffalo,Brant&Godrich / 100 85 00
Stock Bristol and Exeter .., , 100 921 0.4 93/
Stock Caledonian
100 Do. do. 1 July, 1873 100 82 86
Stock Chester and Holyhead . 100 - -
50 Cork and Bandon all • - 190 Do. do. 1 June, 1874 100 80 84
all - - 20 Clcutta.&S.Eastrn.Lim, 1. 3.0. par i p
20 Cork, Blkrock,&Passage
20 Cornwall all 5 51 20 Cape,Eastn. Prov.(Lim.) 2s. - -
A roves. no div 2O Cape Town & Dock Sdrip 2s. 1 i
10 Do. A i all - -
until6p.c.per an. all - 20 Central Oude (Limited) 2s. 6d. - --
10 Do. B 20 Ceylon Guaranteed 6p.c. 2 5 i P
hasbeep pd.toß. 171 Demerara - -
50 Dublin andßelfast Juno. all - -
25 Dun.,Perth,& Abr.Junc. all 8i 9 20 Eastern Bengal.g,u.sp.c. 6 I Idl 41
Stock East Anglian lOO 16 161 Stock East Indian, gu. sp. e.. 100 102 103 1021 1 1
Stock Eastern Counties lOO 691 601 60 i 20 Do. C Shares all - -
Stock Eastern Union A Stock 100 45 47 20 Do. E Shares Ext l5 5 / p 151
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20 East Suffolk all - - t per cent. Bonds
10 Do - Stock Grand Trunk of Canada 100 35 37 35i 6
93 94 93
100 Do. 6 p.c. Deben.,pay.'7B all
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20 Gt.lndiaPenin.gua.sp.c all 101 102 1011
10 Forth & Clyde Junction all - - -
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93 94
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10 Great North of Scotland
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Stock GL South.& Wstn.(lreld) 100 105 106
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Lancaster and Carlisle. all 83 87
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10 Metropolitan
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25 Do. i Shares all - ' 10
FOREIGN RAILWAYS.
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25 New., Aber., & Herefd. all 11
10 Newry & Armagh (deft) 9 -
20 Newry, Warpt., & Roo all -
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•
To-day was appointed for a private meeting under this
bankruptcy. Mr. Commissioner Holroyd not having re-
covered sufficiently to preside the meeting was adjourned.
It was stated that the matter had reference to some mort-
gages, the arguments on which will bo of a merely technical
character.
(Before Mr. Commissioner Evans.)
IN RE MAYNE.

This bankrupt was described as of Stevenage, corn and
coal merchant, and to-day was appointed for his last exami-
nation. Mr. Cox appeared for the assignees, and Mr. Beard
for the bankrupt. Messrs. Paul and Turner as accountants,
and the case was adjourned for investigation of accounts
as the bankrupt could come up on his own petition.
THE GRAVESEND AND DARTFORD BANK.-IN RE HILLS.
This bankrupt was described as of Dartford, miller, and
coal and corn merchant, and was connected with the Hills,
of Gravesend and Dartford, bankers. The accounts, by
Messrs. Hart Brothers, show a large surplus on the Ist of
January, 1857, but the liabilities amount to £18,138—
leaving a total amount to be answered of £21,390 13s. 2d.
IN RE LE MMUS.

A choice of assignees took place in the case of this
bankrupt, described as of Cannon-street, City, merchant.
Tho accounts prepared by Messrs. Hart Brothers, shows
Dr., £2,309 ; secured, £3,700 ; property held at estimate at
£4,300; good debts, £l6.

It is said that, in the event of a dissolution, the
friends of Sir John Young, the ex-Lord High Commissioner
of the lonian Islands, mean to rally round him once more,
and return him as the representative for the county of
Cavan.
Mr. Mouchett, the storekeeper of Deptford Dock-
yard, after a long period of service, has been granted a
retiring allowance of £653.
We understand there are two other candidates
for the vacant judgeship of the Sheriffs' Court—one being
Mr. John Simon, of the Norfolk Circuit. Mr. Simon is
of sixteen years' standing, and has had judicial experience
as the deputy judge of the County Court of LiverpooL
The other candidate is Mr. Charles Rann Kennedy. These
names are in addition to those we published yesterday.

Tff f Tr

THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, MARCH 29, 1859.

LAMENT.

OATHS ACT AMENDMENT BILL.
This bill was read a third time aid passed.
Their lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(YESTERDAY.)
The SPEAKER. took the chair at four o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.

(Hearif hear.) That realised the view which Lord Derby sha-
dowed forth in 1855 ; for a Government must be weak indeed
-hichi could listen to such parental advice as that. It was a
iof , f their imbecility. The noble lord put them in a sort of
it aistcoat, not allowing them to move hand or limb,
h( lding them up, dependent and helpless, to the derision
the house and the country. (Hear, hear.) It had been
gue by Mr. Wortley that the house would be guilty of
ivi
sres act to the Crown if it voted for this resolution, because
ke c nsideration of reform had been recommended in the
reee from the throne. But what was the difference in this
ispe t between voting to reject the bill, and voting against
by eans of an amendment ? (Hear.) Now, with regard
o th • question of the franchise, there had bean two kinds
d' suf rage in this country ever since constitutional memory
,ould trace back—one founded on property, a territorial
sane rise—the other a borough franchise, determined by
reside ace. Theresolution of the noble lord was aimed against
that • 'art of the bill which would destroy the residential
suffr; ge and substitute for it anon-residential suffrage. He
admi ted that mere population should not be the basis of
repro entation, and that interests should be coupled with it.
But i large towns, with populations of 40,000 and 50,000,
you ( iould not have population represented without having
the r eanufacturing, commercial, and other interests of these
towns represented. (Hear.) The very interests which it was
deskle to represent were created by the aggregation and
accumulation of people; and this was the old principle of
the la; arough franchise, because the writs went down autho-
risinA • the boroughs to send members when population and
trade increased. (Hear.) But the right hon gentleman
gave :a most infelicitous illustration of an interest when he
refer red to the borough of Arundel, as representing the in-
terest of 900,000 Roman Catholics in England. He regret-
ted that there were not more members of that persuasion
repntsenting English constituencies, and that any feeling
should exist which debarred men of the highest intellect
and 'character from having seats in that house; but when
the r ight hon. gentleman stated that 900,000 Roman Catho-
lics 1 Tere represented in Arundel, his illustration was not
happy, and his statement was not accurate. He had the
great est respect for the noble lord who now represented
Arundel, but still no one could doubt for a moment that it
was tittle better than a nomination borough. (Hear.) From
1826-to 1832 the 900,000 Roman Catholics were represented
by a " citizen of credit and renown," named Alderman
Atkfais, a rabid Tory, who thought he would be doing
good service to the State if he could burn all the Roman Ca-
tholics of England, and who had a solemn fear that they
would burn him. The Roman Catholics of England had
votes in other boroughs and in counties, and therefore there
was no pretence for considering them as a distinct and class
interest. (Hear.) As well might it be said that Caine re-
presented the military interest. (Hear, and laughter.) It
might just as well be said, when the gallant soldier who,
fresh from the laurels he won at Kars, had been put into
that borough by a noble marquis, that Caine represented
the military interest, or that it represented the literary inte-
rest when Lord Macaulay sat for it, as that Arundel repre-
sented the Roman Catholic interest. (Hear, hear.) There
was another part of the bill which had been referred to by
many speakers, though merely as a matter of detail—he
alluded to the system of voting papers. He was disposed to
look upon that part of the bill as a matter of principle, and
not as a matter of detail. The voting papers were an essen-
tial part of the scheme, if there was to be a large number of
non-resident voters. (Hear, hear.) The introduction of the
words lands or tenements in the bill was a cunning device to
extend this class of voters. (Hear, hear.) It would not be
necessary to have a house at all, for a piece of land with a
cow-house or a pig-stye would come under the denomina-
tion tenement, and he believed it had been held that a piece '
of wall against which cattle rubbed themselves was a tene-
ment. (Laughter.) The voting papers were therefore an
essential part of the scheme, and the measure, instead of
being a sincere Reform Bill, was nothing but a bill of political
retaliation. (Cheers.) It gave property more power, and if
it passed, a vote factorywouldbeunmediatelyformecf for the
manufacture of fictitious non-resident voters. He had been
twitted by the observation that the bill would give Maryle-
bone 15,000 additional voters. He admitted that, and was
thankful for it—(a laugh)—but while on the one hand it
would increase the electors in large towns, on the other
hand they still would only return two members, whilst the
increase of suffrage would be counterpoised by the introduc-
tion of non-resident and fictitious voters. (Hear, hear.) He
did not think that the right hon. and learned gentleman the
Attorney-General for Ireland could have read the whole bill
when he made his speech on Friday night, and must sup-
pose that he was occupied in framing the reform bill for Ire-
land. (Laughter.) The right hon. gentleman the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer endeavoured to draw an analogy
between the voting papers for poor-law guardians and the
voting papers proposed by the bill, but there was no analogy
between them. The voting for guardians was carried on
locally. The voter got the paper six or seven days before
the day of voting ; the police brought them to the house
with the names of the candidates written on them ; but in
an election for a member of Parliament the name of the can-
didate might not be known till the day of nomination, and
the polling commenced the second day. (Hear.) He called
on the right hon. gentleman the member for Cambridge
University to show any machinery in the bill to meet this
defect. These voting papers would become a mere machine
for fraud, bribery, and intimidation. (Hear.) Why did he
say for bribery ? For this reason—as every gentleman who i
attended upon an election committee would readily under-
stand—that nothing would be easier than for a person to go
to the voter who received a paper, and give him £5 for it.
By this means he had the vote in his pocket. (Hear.) It
would, in fact, make the system of bribery more complete
than ever. (Hear, hear.) It would also lead to intimidation.
He would ask the house to picture the position of a voter
with one of these voting papers in his possession, and the
landlord and agent standing beside him. That this would
lead to intimidation was the opinion of the noble lord the
Secretary for India, because in 1857, on the motion of the
noble lord the member for Stamford, in favour of these vot-
ing papers, the noble lord (Stanley) said, " When I pass
from this part of the question to the danger of intimidation,
that danger would be infinitely exaggerated by carrying out
the proposition of my noble friend. What would be easier
than to send an agent of a landlord or employer to the
voter, who would insist upon his signing the voting paper in
his presence.: Even if he transmitted it through the post, it
would not prevent this intimidation." (Hear, hear.) In
the bill for the reform of the Municipal Corporation Act,
the clause relating. to the voting papers was struck out with
the assent of the right hon. gentleman the Home Secretary,
yet he told his constituents in Wiltshire that he regarded
them as an essential portion of this bill. (Cheers.) The fact
that a largo number of the electors of Marylebone had not
recorded their votes during the recent contest was made use
of as an argument in favour of voting papers, and as a proof
of the apathy of the electors. The hon. member for Leicekt .r-
-shire (Mr. Packe) referred to thisfact. The hon. gentleman,
too, during the whole of his speech, called Marylebone
" Marrowbone." (Laughter.) He did not object to that,
though the other name would " sound as sweet." (Laugh-
ter) But the fact was that the industrial and trading class
of Marylebone showed no apathy during the last election.
They were not the drowsy electors of Marylebone who went
to the poll, but the industrious class and small traders. But
if retired tradesman would not go to the trouble of stepping
out of his omnibus or cab to record his vote, was it likely
he would go to the trouble of getting a voting paper,
procuring two witnesses to sign it, and then send it
through the Post-office ? (Hear, hear.) With regard to the
lessening of the franchise, scarcely a member who took part
in the debate had spoken in favour of it. Thd two right hen.
gentlemen who retired from the cabinet were even in favour
of an extension of the franchise. The right hon. gentleman
the Secretary for the Colonies, however, did not think the
people required it, or were fit for it, and he spoke of "im-
patient poverty, and uninstructed numbers." The right hon.
gentleman forewarned them of the dangers of democracy,
and quoted a passage from Mirabeau, which, with all respect
for the historic knowledge of the right hon. gentleman, had
very little bearing on the question. (Hear, hear.) The aris-
tocracy of France, had they remained, might have tempered
the excesses of the revolution, but who destroyed the aris-
tocracy of France ? The aristocracy themselves. (Hear,
hear.) That aristocracy had been guilty of unheard-of
excesses, and when the people rose and a mighty revolution
came upon them they fled, and left the crown unaided and
exposed to the democracy. (Hear, hear.) But there was
no parallel between the working classes of this country, po-
litically educated as they had been since 1832, and the
emancipated serfs of France. (Hear.) But these remarks
on the working classes came with a bad grace from the
right hon. gentleman. (Hear.) Had they not seen dukes,
and poets, and statesmen lecturing to the working classes on
the truths of science and the importance of cultivating their
taste and intelligence ? (Hear, hear.) Did the right hon.
gentleman suppose that when these distinguished persons
were instructing the working classes on these matters they
were not also teaching them their political rights? No per-
son had added such lustre to the literature of the world of
late years as the right hon. baronet himself, and a cheap
edition of his works was circulated amongst the working
classes, in which England and Englishmen were told that
the safety of the country depended on their getting their
political rights. (Cheers.) They were initiated in the mys-
teries of " Eugene Aram." (Laughter.) And after being
educated in this way by the right hon. gentlemnn and others,
did he suppose that the " uninstructed numbers" were not
able to form an opinion what candidate they ought to vote
for at an election ? (Hear, hear.) But, said the right hon.
gentleman, who wanted reform ? Some persons whispered
to him, he said, that a moderate Reform Bill only was re-
quired. Tho Government kept their words to those persons,
though he could not say they had kept their word to the
country. (Hear, hear.) The country, it was said, did not
care about reform; it was apathetic; there were no petitions.
If they had a political hurricane, as they had in 1831, it
was said, Do not give way now, the people are in too ex-
cited a state to understand the reforms they require. If, on
the other hand, they were peaceable and quiet, it was said,
Look how apathetic they are. (Hear.) He would have the
Government to be cautious that they did not mistake tran-
quillity for torpor, and patience for apathy. (Hear.) They
were differently circumstanced now from what they were in
1831. The large towns were then unrepresented. The
large towns were now represented, and their wishes were
mfroaindetkhneoAwnlinisthteroriauf
bhentehheeisr.)rweeuse,nst;etain
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representatives whom they respected, they told the house
that they did want reform. (Hear, hear.) No one wanted
through(li, ear
,hear, their
a wild, reckless, and speculative reform, but such a reform
as the two right hon. gentlemen who left the cabinet told
them might be fairly granted. (Hear, hear.) He felt in-
rdeembtehstohtadhebehoeunselifsotrentehdetok,inadndahtteenshtioonnidwsitithdmo•wnhichwihiths
one more observation. (Hear, hear.) It was admitted by
the right hon. gentleman the Attorney-General for Ireland,
with a courage that did him honour, and speaking after
that ironical, withering, and satirical lecture which had
been read by the Government by the noble lord the member
for Tiverton, that the Government would not accept the
position which the noble lord wished to create for them.
(Hear, hear.) They would be pusillanimous and weak in-
deed if they did. The noble lord, the member for King's
Lynn, stated more explicitly that if the Government were
defeated, political power would change hands. (Hear,
hear, and " No, no.) Almost every speaker alluded to the
Government which was to succeed the present one, and had
some notion what it was to be. He (Mr. James) cared not
who formed the future government. (A laugh.) He eared
not who formed it, because he was convinced that no last-
ing government could be formed unless it was formed on a
totally different basis than the governments which preceded
it. (Hear, hear.) The noble lordthe member for the City
bore a great name. He had never been present at a private
or a public meeting in which he allowed the noble lord's
name to be mentioned without veneration and respect. (Oh,
oh, and laughter.) But he told the noble lord that if he
was to forma governmen to succeed the present, he must
not form it on exclusive principles. (Laughter.) To fol -
low the metaphor of the noble lord the member or Tiver-
ton,ter.) The people would have no confidence in such a govern-
wha tthwehnigobwlaeslorerdiamteiditsot nsnoethtaakwehtligc.fsarrmilydsmtuotdhbeoro. k(Laanudgshee.
principle
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statesmanny
debating, and habits of business. The noble lord bore a great
p, powers of
name and deserved veneration and- respect, but when in the
govern-
ment
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He thought the noble lord, or whoever formed the next Government he sometimes kept bad company. (Laughter.)
twani list dht that.
ea st c. e n t ,
Go-
vernment might imitate the right hon. gentleman the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer in this respect, for the present Go-
vernment was certainly formed on a wider basis than the
Governments which preceded it. (Hear, hear.) It was not
based on mere kindred and relationship. Re saw on. the row

opposite (the ministerial benches) a great many hon. gentle-
men of the same profession as himself. (Loud laughter.) it
would be presumptuous in him to offer any advice to the
noble lord, but he might well take an example from the right
hon. gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer, who had
made his way and achieved his present position through very
great difficulties, and who was not ashamed to state in that
house that of the people he was, from the people sprung, and
that he regarded his connection with the press as his highest
escutcheon. (Cheers, and Hear, hear.) The noble lord,
therefore, must form his Government on a wider basis, and
not confine himself to a narrow, exclusive circle. (Laughter.)
Whigs ! pure Whigs ! (Laughter.) Your pure Whigs, like
bustards in Norfolk, were a species of bird that was fastdying
out. (Laughter.) There were gentlemen sitting around him
(laughter) who represented great constituencies
(laughter)—and who were hardly ever consulted on political
matters. They were never called on till the flagellation before
a division. If the noble lord would only rely on the people as
he had done, the people, who were always generous, would
place confidence in him. (Hear.) Let him place confidence
in the people, and he might treat with contempt whatever
accusations were brought against him, like those of the right
hon. gentleman the member for Stroud. He might then
rise superior to the petty intrigues of faction and the paltry
cabals of party, but without that the noble lord would never
regain the confidence which her Majesty's present Govern-
ment had forfeited, or stand for an hour at the helm which
they were now compelled to abandon. (Cheers.)
Mr. BEAUMONT said that he had had a seat for seven
years in the house, and had never until this debate found
himself in opposition to the noble lord the member for river-
ton. It was his intention on this occasion to go into the
lobby with the Chancellor of the Exchequer. (Hear, hear.)
The feeling of the people out of doors on this question had
been alluded to ; but he contended that if the Secretary for
the Colonies or the Prime Minister, or any others of equal
eloquence, had convened meetings like the hon. member
for Birmingham, they would have secured audiences quite.
as large. (Hear.) This resolution was an ingenious ands
well-worded trap—(hear, hear)—leaving altogether unee
touched the merits of the question. (Hear, hear.) Roe
thought the measure a boon, inasmuch as it carried out rue
views of the hon. member for Surrey with respect to the
county franchise. The objection to uniformity of fear whim,
he feared, was rather an after-thought—(hear, lie3-o—but
he confessed himself opposed to the disfranchisement of the
40s. freeholders, and the proposal of an option ire •voting in
counties or boroughs he held to be bad. He considered
that the principle of voting-papers could be apv,,lied to non-
resident voters; but he retained his hostility to the adop-
tion of the ballot. But he thought, gener_dly, that it was
quite out of the question to attempt to di ;cuss a measure of
reform on a resolution like this. (Hew_ hear.) For these
reasons he could not vote for the ree'olsition, and he would
give his support to the Government. (Ministerial cheers.)
Lord ELCHO said that on so momentous a question he
would not have risen to address the house had he not been
so pointedly alluded to by the hon. anti:came d member for
Marylebone, the future Solicitor- Gerteral—(a laugh)—who
adverted to a letter which a noble earl had done him the
honour to address to him. He itid not rise to defend that
noble earl, who needed none of his defence, and who, with
a name so illustrious in one political history, was entitled
to be heard on a question like this. Surely it was not to be
said that an English peer was the only person who was not
on such an occasion to be suffered to express an opinion.
Why, it was only the other day that a member of the
house, the member for Edinburgh (Mr. A. Black), wrote
a letter to the Times newspaper on a question upon
which he was to have an opportunity of addressing the
house. For his own part, he agreed with some hon. gen-
' tlemen opposite that it was an error for a Conservative
Government to have brought in a Reform Bill. They
should not have accepted the Government with any such
engagement; and he (Lord Eleho), if it had been left to
his option, would rather have paid the forfeit. Indeed, it
showed a poor knowledge of hqman nature to undertake
the task, since they must have known, as sure as they laid
the bill on the table, that the Liberals would throw it out.
Notwithstanding what had been said by the hon. member
for Birmingham, that no one dare stand forward and raise
his voice against reform, he had no hesitation in saying
that if reform meant organic change, or radical change, ho
saw no necessity for that change. To justify it, either the
legislative machine worked ill, or the unenfranchised wore
so resolved on having the franchise, that it would be dan-
gerous to resist. Was it so ? The noble lord the member
for London, when he resisted, in 1848, Mr. Hume's mo-
tion, then called the little charter, said he would let well
alone. Ile (Lord Elcho) agreed with that, and thought it
unwise to pull a good machine to .pieces, lest it might not
be possible to reconstruct it. He warned them by the
words of the old epitaph, which was quoted the other day
in a pamphlet :—" I was well, wished to be better, and here
I am." In place of the desire said to exist for the fran-
chise, he reminded the house that in 1854 the noble lord

the member for London withdrew his Reform Bill because
there was little feeling in favour of it. The same infer-
ence he drew from what was said by the hon. member for
Birmingham satirically of the Bank and the Museum in
April, 1848 ; for the people then showed in a time of
danger that they were an industrious and peaceful people,
and not discontented with their lot. He could speak from
experience, having been a special constable on the occa-
sion ; for there he saw lords and dukes, and middle-
class men and artisans, combined for the preservation
of the peace. If the honourable member for Birming-
ham were in his place he would ask whether he
was satisfied with his winter campaign. He under-
stood that it was quitethe contrary, and that the hon. mem-
ber had been heard to say that he had been flogging a dead
horse. He thought they ought to be very careful not to
lower the character of that house, or to reduce it to the
state of the vestry of St. Pancras. It was an assembly of
free English gentlemen, and he hoped that it would always
continue so, and that every member of itanight be proud of
belonging to such an assembly. The present bill had been
objected to on the principle of uniformity contained in it.
The question of uniformity of franchise was just one of
those which might be discussed in committee. The bill
being one for the amendment of the representation of
the people, was, he believed, based on the principle
that representation should rest not on population alone
—not on property alone—but on interests. There were
many excellent points in the bill to which ho should
be ready to give his assent. The noble lord had him-
self admitted on Friday that there were many excel-
lent points in the bill, and had disapproved of no part of
it except the uniformity of the franchise, which he thought
ought not in counties to be so low as £lO. It was said that
the bill would not effect a settlement of the question. He
should like the noble lord to say what would settle the ques-
tion. Did the bill of 1832, of which the noble lord was the
author—liberal as that bill was—settle the question ? There
had been no fewer than 3.5 motions in that house for a re-
form of the constitution since 1832. In the very next year
after the passing of the Reform Bill there was a motion made
in that house for the ballot, and another for shortening the
duration of Parliaments. In 1837 no fewer than seven
motions were made on the subject. Infect, whatever measure
might be carried, there would always be persons calling
themselves advanced Liberals—men who were in favour of
progress—of progress they knew not what—who would ad-
vocate further change. On the subject of a dissolution he
could add nothing to what had been said by the right
hon. member for Cambridge University, and by the
right hon. member for Bute. A dissolution could not
be too strongly deprecated ; and if the Government decided
on that step he knew not what power the house possessed to
check them, but for himself he should be ready to support
an address to her Majesty, praying her Majesty not to dis-
solve Parliament. (Hear, hear.) The other alternative-=re -
signation—implied the formation of a new Government.
What would be the nature of it ? Was it to be presided
over by the noble lord the member for Tiverton? (Hear.)
He had listened to the speech of the noble lord. He had
always had the utmost confidence in the integrity and
ability of the noble lord. He believed that the noble lord
would act consistently in the spirit of his speech in any
reform he might propose, and that the details of tho bill
would be such as he had foreshadowed t 0 the house. He
was confident the speech of the noble lord the member for
Tiverton fell like a shell on the benches of the Opposition
—(hear, hear)—and that there had been no such astonish-
ment like it since Balaam stood up in high places, and
ended by blessing his enemies instead of cursing them.
(Cheers.) The construction of a new Government might,
however, fall to the lot of the noble lord the member for the
City of London ; and he hoped that noble lord would not
take it as anything personal to himself if he (Lord Elcho)
declined to express the confidence in him which he was
ready to extend to his noble friend (Lord Palmerston).
He knew not whether the noble lord would be disposed to
place the honourable member for Birmingham in his
Cabinet, or appoint the honourable member for Finsbury
(Mr. Cox) his vice-president of education, or whether he
would have the right hon. gentleman the member for Wells
(Mr. Hayter) and the hon. member for Walsall (Mr. For-
ster) as his colleagues; but he (Lord Elcho) should look
upon a Reform Bill introduced by such a Government as
laying the foundation of democracy in the British Senate.
(Cheers.) He hoped, therefore, that all who had the
interest of the British constitution at heart would join
together for the purpose of rejecting the resolution of the
noble lord, which, as had been well said, unsettled every-
thing and settled nothing. (Ministerial cheers.) But
if hon. gentlemen, even on such an occasion as this,
when the interests of England and the political inheritance
of their children were at stake, could not lay aside party
feeling, he would ask them to listen to the words which
had been addressed to them last year by the hon. member
for Birmingham. The hon. gentleman one evening made a
short speech, in which, after stating that every man who
went to our colonies repudiated our policy and our debt,
and thanked Heaven that he had at last found a country
where his industry wasunfettered, went on to say that, how-
ever many of our countrymen emigrated, the landed pro-
prietors of England must still remember that their acres re-
mained, and that by-and-by they would have a different
tone assumed in the House of Commons after another reform
in Parliament; that their succession duties would be over-
hauled, and it would not be got rid of so easily as at pre-
sent; their property tax would come back in increased pro-
portion, and they might rely upon it that the course they
had pursued for some years had been foolish and wicked.
By casting unfair burdens on the people they would create
a spirit of discontent and disaffection, and when the people
once had the power, which they would shortly have, to lay
taxes on those who had the money, they might depend on
it the poor would not always go to the wall, and the rich
always escape. He (the noble lord) wa s not about to
answer this, although it easily admitted of one, for legisla-
tion had of late years been especially directed for the benefit
of the poorer classes. (Cheers.) What he would say was,
that the house ought to take warning by the words of the
hon. member for Birmingham, who spoke openly then, but
he very much doubted whether the lion. gentleman spoke
in the same open manner in the speech he made the other
evening. (Cheers.) He was not in the house upon that
occasion, but he had ,asked an hon. member what sort of a
speech it was, and the description given was this, " It was
milk and water, prepared to order." (Laughter.) He • asked
the hon. gentlemen opposite to pause before they played a
game which might lead to a coalition between the noble lord
(Lord J. Russell) and the hon. member for Birmingham.
(Hear.). He called upon them, while there was time, to resist
this tide of deinociacy which was setting in, and to hand
down that noble constitution which they had received from
their ancestors, of which they had only a life interest, and
of which Mr. Fox had. wisely said, " combined all the
efficiency of a Monarchy with the liberty of a republic,
without the despotism of the one or the licentiousness of
the other."
,(Cheers.)
Mr. E. ELLICE said that he quite acquitted the Govern-
ment of any want of consistency in bringing in a Reform
Bill, however unfortunate it might be that a question of this
magnitude should fall into the hands of a Ministry repre-
senting a minority in that house. The question of reform
had been recommended to the Crown, and brought before
the house in 1852 andlBs4. His noble friend at the head of
the late Government had also produced a measure on the
subject ; and he was therefore not Surprised when'the noble
lord at the head of the present Government told the public
ha would do his best to settle the question. (Hear; hear.)
He agreed with his noble friend who had just sat down
on one point, namely—that it was better, it they could agree
upon a certain principle of reform, to proceed gradually with
that work. (Hear, hear.) He did not think that great
organic changes in the constitution of thathouse were to be