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ARMY ESTIMATES.

The House having resolved into a Committee of Supply,
Sir J. HOBHOUSE rose to propose, according to the
arrangement sanctioned by the unanimous approval of that
House, the army estimates for the quarter of the year end-
ing the 31st of March last. It certainly was not in his
power to promise so large an amount of reduction as had
been effected by his Right Hon. Friend, the First Lord of
the Admiralty, in the navy department, but he was able to
say that since 1820 a very considerable reduction in the
charges for the army service had taken place. Notwith-
standing that the number of f rces, and the persons em-
ployed in the various departments, was not much greater
than at present, and that some new charges were now added,
yet on comparing the estimates of 1820 with those of the
present year, he found that a decrease of expense to ne less
an amount than 684,0001. had taken place. The charge
for tie effective service for the present quarter was
896,8311., and for the non-effective service 726,2101.
(the charge for Exchequer fees not being included in
those items), being a decrease in the present quarter,
compared with a quarter of 91 days in the last year, of
15,300/. on the effective service, and an increase of
35,131/. on the non-effective. Before proposing the se-
parate votes, he thought that it would perhaps be better
for him to run over an abstract of each service. The
vote he proposed to move for the land forces was
805,9611., being an increase on the present quarter, com-
pared with the expense for the quarter in last year, of
17,922/. The charge for the staff-officers (exclusive of
India) was 30,667!., being a decrease of 463/. ; the
charge for the public departments was 25,246!., being a
decrease of 728/. The charge for medicines, &c., was
3,0001., being a decre ise of 105/. The charge for gar-
risons 8,425/., being a decrease of 34/. The charge for
the Royal Military College, 991/., being a decrease of
4161. For the Asylum, 4,413/., being a decrease of
581/. ; the charge for the Hibernian Military School
1,3601., being a decrease of 207!. ; and the charge for the
volunteer corps, 16,768/., being a decrease of 30,683/.
The House would therefore see, that the decrease of the
whole of the estimates for the effective services wa■
15,0001. With respect to the non-effective services, the
charges were as follows :—For General Officers, 32,2001.,
being a decrease of 1,550/. ; for retired full pay, 23,000/.,
being a decrease of 4,855/. ; for half-pay, &c., 169,6001.,
being a decrease of 4,850/. ; for foreign haif.pay,
22,425/. being a decrease of 400/. ; for militia retired
officers, &c. 6,684/., being a decrease of 109/. ; for
widows' pensions, 36,9601., being an increase of 36/. ;
for compassionate allowances, 84c. 44,046/., being a
decrease of 1,108/. ; for in and out pensioners of
Chelsea, &c. 378,5791., being an increase of 44,5831. ;
and for superannuations, 12,696/, being a decrease
of 6461. There was, therefore, an increase upon
the whole of these estimates for the non-effective
services, of 35,131/. The first vote to be sub-
mitted to the Committee was the number of land forces;
and he would take the present opportunity of making a
few observations with reference to that subject. The
House would recollect that in the year 1830, the rank
and file amounted to 69,125 men. In the year 1831,
however, in consequence of the disturbances in England,
it was thought advisable to complete the full establishment
of the army, by adding to the effective force 7,261 men.
Since that period, it appeared that certain battalions had
returned from abroad, whose effective force amounted to
3 256 men, so that upon the whole an effective force of
10,516 men was made available in consequence of the un-
fortunate state of the country. There was an apparent
increase of rank and file of 897 men ; and of 1,005 men
of all ranks ; but this increase did not exist in point of
fact. The whole of the real increase amounted to 158
men, and the remaining apparent increase was occasioned
by the return of a regiment from India• This regiment '
had been maintained by the East India Company during
its passage to this country, and was now a whole year
returned from India ; and the increase of expense arising
upon this head amounted to 18,0001. The Right Hon. '
Baronet concluded by moving a resolution that the num.
ber of men employed in the land forces be 89,047.
Sir H. IIARDINGE complimented the Right Hon.
Baronet on the business-like manner in which he had de-
tailed the estimates, and he had no doubt, from his know-
ledge of the Right Hon. Gentleman's ability, that the
affairs of the army would be conducted in an efficient
manner. The purpose for which he now rose was to re-
commend the Ministers to introduce their army estimates
for the ensuing financial year previous to the 24th of
March, as that was the last day beyond which the re-
enactment of the Mutiny Act could be delayed.
Sir H. PARNELL said, that the present were merely
supplementary estimates, founded on the estimates of last
year, and it was not, therefore, to be supposed that the
Right Hon. Baronet could propose any reductions ; but
he thought the circumstance of the House being called
upon to vote supplies for a quarter, half of which had
already passed by, showe.l pretty plainly the necessity
for altering the commencement of the financial year.
When lie was in office, he certainly had not made any dis-
tinct propositions of reduction ; hut he had offered sug-
gestions for a considerable retrenchment, and he knew that
there was room for effecting a considerable saving this
year in the army expenditure.
Colonel TRENCH considered that the arrangements
made in the army department by Sir H. Hardinge were
so admirable as not to be susceptible of improvement.
He, therefore, was no friend to the Right Hon. Baronet's
(Sir H. Parnell's) plans of retrenchment.
Sir H. PARNELL said it was quite impossible that the
Gallant Officer could be aware of the nature of his plans
of retrenchment ; and it was therefore somewhat surpris-
ing that they bad received his condemnation. Perhaps
the Gallant Officer judged of his schemes from certain
absurd rumours which had lately gone abroad.
Colonel TRENCH imput.d no blame to the Right Hon.
Baronet; but one of the me.oures which he understood
was to be ascribed to the Right Hon. Baronet, and of
which be did approve, was the refusing to allow the usual
brevet rank on the occasion of the late Coronation.

Lord A LTHORP had lately heard many reports respect-
ing the measures of retrenchment which the Right lion.
Baronet (Sir H. Parnell) had intended to propose, none of
which, he would venture to say, had the least foundation
in fact. With respect to tie brevet rank, the ground on
which the Government retused to grant it at the late Co-
ronation was, because it had been allowed but a short time
before.

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Sir J. BYNG spoke against reducing the amount of
the forces.
Mr. HUNIE disapproved of the course pursued by the
Right Hon. Baronet (Sir J. Hohhouse) in drawing a com-
parison between the present year and 1820. Did not the
Right Hon. Baronet know that considerable reduc,ions in
the amount of the army had taken place in 1822. 1823,
and 1824; that the number of men employed now was
20,000 more than in 1823 ? He cautioned Ministers
against listening to the advice of military gentlemen with
respect to the amount of force t be kept up. They were
always disposed to increase the army ; but he knew, be-
fore the country could experienc• any reli4, the number
of the army must be greatly reduced. He considered it
would be greatly advantageous if the Secretary at War
also performed the duties of Secretary for the Ordnance

and the rest of the military establishments, and placed on
the tables the es'imates relating to the whole of the depart.
ments together. At present the Secretary of War was
made the mere clerk of the Commander-in-Chief, and
promotions were made in the army without his know-
ledge. This ought not to be; and he remembered that,
before the French war, the Commander-in-Chief confined
himself to his proper duty as an executive officer. But
now that officer assumed too much authority, and he
thought it would he advisable to break down the whole
establishment at the Horse Guards. Certainly the present
Commander-in-Chief ought not to be allowed to continne
in office any longer. His excellent Friend (Sir H. Par-
nell) had been dismissed by the Ministers, because he
would not vote on the quest on of the Russo-Dutch loan ;
hut the Commander-in-Chief was allowed to retain his si-
tuation, though he voted directly against them on the
question of Reform. But, somehow or other, the influence
of the Duke of Wellingto❑ seemed still to prevail ; and his
Secretary retained his appointment, and held his levies at
the Horse Guards. He approved of the conduct of Go-
vernment in not granting brevet rank on the occasion of
the Coronation. There were too many Generals and high
officers already ; and it was quite impossible to attend any
assembly without meeting a red coat.

Sir J. HOBHOUSE, since he had been in office, had
seen quite enough to convince him that he should have
a sharp debate with the Hon. Member for Middlesex on
the subject of the estimates. He found that it would be
impossible to carry reduction so far as the Hon. Member
desired. Allusion having been made to the absence of
brevet promotion on account of the Coronation, he felt it
necessary to state, that that measure would have saddled
the country with an expense of eleven thousand pounds a
year, which, under present circumstances, it was not
thought advisable to incur.—(Hear, bear.)
An HON. MEMBER contended, that Lord Hill had ad-
ministered promotion in the army with the strictest im-
partiality.—(Hear.)
Mr. ROBINSON urged Ministers to make up their
minds, between the present moment and the period when
the annual estimates would be brought forward, to reduce
the existing amount of the standing army.
Mr. HUNT said, that the Government would never be
able to do without a large standing army until every man
had a vote for the election of the representatives of the
nation.

Sir H. HARDINGE said that the Hon. Member for
Middlesex stated, that the Commander of the Forces was
in the habit of making improper or unnecessary promo-
tions. The Hon. Member ought to have known that the
Secretary of War controuled the Commander-in-Chief,
by having possession of the purse. In fact, no. promo-
tions could take place without his consent.—(Hear.)
With respect to the Commander-in• Chief's levees, it was
not for his own gratification that he held them, but be-
cause they were found beneficial to the service. The Hon.
Member objected to Lord Hill because he was the friend
of the Duke of Wellington. Why did he not object to
Sir James Kemp on the same ground ? There was not a
distinguished officer i❑ the service who was not the Duke
of Wellington's friend.—(Hear, hear.) He bad never
heard a more illiberal attack upon any public officer tha❑
that made upon Lord Hill. He never would subscribe
to the doctrine that the Commander of the Forces ought
to he merely a political instrument in the hands of the
Government.—(Hear.)
Sir J. BYNG was sure that Government would main-
tain the present military establishment, if it were neces-
sary to the welfare of the country.
Mr. HUNIE was not surprised at finding military men
averse to reductions in the army. In his intercourse with
officers, they had always shown themselves disinclined to
take part against the Government of the day. He had no
personal dislike to Lord Hill, but he thought his Lord-
ship ought to be removed, on the ground of his being a
Member—an influential and powerful Member—of the
Government. He blamed the Government, however, more
than his Lordship. On the point of promotion he would
s nothing more than certain individuals had somehow or
other risen in the army. His object was to induce Mini-
sters to bring down the next estimate to the establishment
of 1822, 1823, and 1824.
Mr. HUNT had no hopes of abolishing the standing
army, since he saw both sides of the House tarred with
the same bru.h —(Laughter.)
Sq. J. SE RIGHT was not surprised that military
officers should object to reductions in the existing force;
but, although himself no officer, he confessed he was
astonished to see his Hon. Friend the Member fur Middle-
sex propose any reduction in the present state of the
country.—(Hear.)
Sir H. HARDINGE referred to his own conduct in
Parliament, and to that of other officers who had opposed
Ministers on the Reform question, as a proof of the inde-
pendence of military men. . .

Colonel EVANS said a few words which were inaudible.

Mr. LEADER thought that 100,0001. spent in im-
proving the harbours of Ireland would do more good than
five times that sum expended upon a military establish-
ment. As a precautionary measure, however, he con-
ceived a strong establishment requisite.
The vote was then agreed to.
The following votes were agreed to without discussion :-
305,961/. fur defraying the charge of the land forces in
Great Britain and Ireland.

30,6661. for the general staff officers and officers of the
hospitals.
25,2451. for allowances to the principal officers of several
military departments, their clerks, deputies, and contingent
expenses.

3,0001. for medicines, and surgical materials.
On the question that the sum of 8,4241. be granted to
defray the charge of his Majesty's garrisons at home and
abroad,

Mr. HUME objected to the grant, on the ground that
half of the persons who received garrison appointments
did no duty. He was of opinion that if veteran officers
were deserving, it would be better to pension them at once.
The vote was agreed to.
On the question, that the sum of 9901. be granted to
the Royal Military College,
Sir J. HOBHOUSE, in answer to an objection of Mr.
flume's, said, that the number of the higher class of
students was increased, while that of the lower was dimi-
nished, and that a saving would consequently accrue to the
public.

The vote was agreed to.
5,7731. was voted to the Royal Military Asylum, and
the Hibernian Military School.
On the vote being put of 16,7681. to the volunteer corps
of Great Britain and Ireland,

Sir R. BATESON took occasion to eulogize the ser-
vices of the Irish yeomanry.
Colonel TOR RENS disapproved of a system that placed
arms in the hands of a party, for the purpose of coercing
the majority of the community.
The ♦ote was then agreed to ; as was 4,8001. to defray
the charge of Exchequer fees in Great Britain upon issues
to be made for effective army services.
The sum of 6,683/. 19s. was then granted to defray the
charge for reduced local militia adjutants, retired officers
of the militia, from the Ist of January to the 31st of
March, 1832.

The next grant proposed was the sums of 36,9801. to
defray the charge of pensions to he paid to the widows of
officers of the land forces, from the Ist of January to the
3lst of Match, 1832.

Sir A. DALRYMPLE complained of a recent determi-
nation of the War-office. Formerly, officers in the army
thought that when they married, a pension was secured as
matter of right to their widows. By a recent regulation
of the War-office, it had been made known to the service
that officers' widows, possessing a certain amount of pro
perty, would not in future be considered as entitled to a
pension. By this decision not only would the widows of
many officers be deprived of that annuity to which they
had always considered themselves entitled, but military
men would also be discouraged from ensuring their lives
for the benefit of their families, inasmuch as the property,
which they secured thereby to their widows on their
own demise, would operate as a bar to their receiving the
pension, to which they would otherwise be entitled.
Sir J. HOBHOUSE complained that the lion. and
Gallant Member had not stated this matter quite cor-
tterecommendationrantig theseof pt
reedy. Before 1830 the word " proper" was inserted in
warrants
Committeesince time,wtlhiaicthsat up
up%n
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auperannuations, the word " proper" had been erased, and
the words " wealthy circumstances had been substituted
in the warrants. The stostitution of these words had
pensions
ions;
given rise to a question, whether the Secretary at War
had a right to inquire into the amount of any widow's
income who desired to be put on the army pension list.
His Hight Hon. predecessor in the \Var.office (Sir H.
Parneli) yrs of opinion that he had a right to institute
such inquiry. Still, though such was the case, there
were only four instances in which a refusal to grant the
pension had been given. The first was in the case of a
widow, who enjoyed a clear income of 1,856/. a•year ;
the next was in the case of a widow, who had 63U/.
a-year ; the third was in the case of a widow, who had
4081. a-year ; and the fourth was in the case of a widow,
who refused to give any account of her income. He
thought that it would be very difficult to draw up a scale
by- which to det•-rmine, when a widow having children
should, and when she should not, receive a pension. He
was of opinion that no general rule could be devised for
such cases, and the decision of them must, he thought,

rest in all future years with the Secretary of War for the
time being.

Sir H. PARNELL, when he held the office of Secretary
at War, had consulted the best informed persons in his
department as to what had been the usual course of pro-
ceeding with the application of officers widows for pen-
sions, and that be had formed his decision upon the in-
formation which he had so received. In coming to the
decision which he had formed on this subject, he assured
the House that be had been particularly desirous not to do
any thing that was either unjust or severe to the widows
of those gallant men who had shed their best blood in the
service of the country. . . _

Mr. C. WYNN concurred with his Right Hon. Friend
in thinking that it was impossible to lay down any general
rule stating when these pensions should be granted, and
when they should not. He contended that the application
of an officer's widow for a pension ought not to be con-
sidered as a claim of right, but as an appeal to his Ma-
jesty's bounty. Under such circumstances, it appeared to
him to be absolutely necessary to inquire into the amount of
income enjoyed by each applicant for the King's bounty.
Sir H. HARDINGE during the time that he was in
office had acted on the principle laid down by his Right
lion. Friend. He could not, however, admit that the
distressed circumstances of an officer's widow formed the
sole foundation for granting her a pension. It was the
services performed by her husband in his life-time that
gave her a claim after his death for some remuneration.
He was perfectly aware that nothing was more unpopular
in the army than the requisition which compelled every
widow to declare the amount of her income upon affidavit
at the time she made application for a pension. The Se-
cretary at War was generally at war with every one else in
the army—(A laugh)—in consequence of the numerous
applications which he had to examine and to refuse. In
answering applications of this kind, it was impossible to
lay down any general rule, as each case differed from its
fellow in several circumstances. Still the Secretary at War
ought not to be too strict in deciding upon claims of this na-
ture : on the contrary, he ought to hold the scales fairly, and
to decide impartially between the public and the unfortunate
applicants for these pensions.
After a few words in explanation from Sir A. DAL-
RYMPLE, the grant was agreed to.
On the vote for 42,047/. for allowances on the Com-
I passionate List, Royal Bounty, and Pensions, &c., to offi-
cers for wounds, being read by the Chairman,
Sir A. DALRI MPLE said, that a letter had ap-
peared in the Times Paper of Friday last, signed St. G.
Lyster, upon this subject. He knew nothing of the case,
but he wished to ask the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir J. Hob-
house) whether he would make an inquiry into it.
Sir HENRY HARDINGE would say but a few words
on this subject. This was a case of which the Right Hon.
Gentleman opposite would find in the War-office a minute
in tLe hand-writing of him (Sir H. Hardinge). In that
the whole case of Captain Lyster would be seen, and he
Sir H. Hardinge) would he at all times ready to answer
any question that might be proposed with regard to it.
The vote was then agreed to.

O❑ the grant for 378,5791. Is. 7d. for the charge of
Chelsea and Kilmainham Hospitals, and the in and out-
pensioners of the same,

Colonel SIBTHORPE said that it was a shame to take
a shilling in the pound from poor soldiers, and he hoped an
end would be put to the system.
Sir J. HOBHOUSE said that this, though an appa-
rent, was not a real, deduction from the pensions of these
poor men ; on the contrary, it afforded some, though a
very inadequate, return for the service dons to them.—
Formerly pensioners were allowed to borrow money, which
they could only get on very disadvantageous terms; whereas
now, they were paid the half-year in advance, and saved
from the usurious interest they had heretofore paid. If it
V 749 taken into consideration how many of them died be-
tween the commencement of the half-year and the day
when the pension became due, it would be found that the
Government was a loser, and that there wa■ no want of
charity in the deduction.
The vote was agreed to. _ _ -

12,6951. 15s. id. for superannuations, and 3,6501. for
Exchequer fres on the payments for the non-effective
service, were then voted.
Sir J. HOBHOUSE then observed, that he had
ple.sure in mentioning to the House that he had heard
from the medical gentlemen who had witnessed the course
of the cholera in the north of England, that not one soldier
had been attacked by the disease. He would also state,
that a place for which Government had been in treaty was
taken for the Guard., in order to secure so valuable a branch
of the public service from any danger of this disorder.
ARMY EXTRAORDINARIES.

Mr. RICE then brought forward the army extraordi-
nariea. He intended to take a general vote for the three
months, and proposed that a sum of 300,0001. be voted
for this service.

Mr. HUME said, that the form of these accounts ren-
dered them totally unintelligible. He would not ask his
Right Hon. Friend for any explanation of them, because he
knew it must be out of his power to give it. Tl:ere was
the Colonial-office, and the Admiralty, and why not ar-
range all these under their proper heads?
Mr. RICE had always objected to the form of the ac-
counts, as there were a great many of the most incon-
gruous items introduced under this head : a Government ship
for Newfoundland, and Indian presents for Canada, ap-
peared strangely in an account like this, and so also did
the expenses of the Swan River establishment. With re-
spect to these they formed a large and increasing burden.
The Governor, Captain Stirling, had been empowered to
draw bills on the Treasury at home for any stores that
might be required. He had done so, but the Government
had now sent out a commissary to superintend the provid-
ing of 'tores, and act as a cheek with respect to these bills.
As a general change was contemplated in the form of these
accounts, it would not be right on one point to impede this
vote by proposing an alteration.
Colonel TORRENS said, that if the proper principle of
colonization had been attended to with respect to Swan
River, as it bad been in regard to the American colonies,
this country would not have been put to any expense.
After a few words from Mr. RUTHVEN,

Mr. W. WHITMORE asked why this country should
be called on to pay money for a colony which seemed to
have been establisked only because a private individual
wished to settle in a part of Australia.
Mr. DIXON asked how long it was likely that these
payments would continue?
Mr. RICE could not give a definitive answer. The
Governor, as he had before stated, was allowed to draw
bills on the Government at home, and upoa that principle
he had hitherto acted. This would not, however, con-
tinue, as a commissary for this especial purpose had been
sent out. There was, however, a prospect that these
extraordinary supplies would not be longer wanted. He
expected a report from Captain Stirling upon the subject
very soon, but at all events it would not be prudent to act
hastily on this point, as great interests might be injured
by so doing.
Mr. HUME observed, that a pledge had been given at
the time the colony was formed, that it should be no
expeace to this country. Ministers should adhere to their
pledge.

GOULBURN had given no such pledge, and a
proof of it was, that a❑ esti►aate of the expence bad been
laid before Parliament.

Mr. HUME said, that when the largeness of the grant
of 270,000 acres to one individual was adverted to in the
House, it had been replied that the grant was made on
condition that the country should sustain no expence. The
estimate referred to had been brought in afterwards,
Such a paltry colony as this to draw 24,0001.
Sir G. MURRAY concurred in the doctrine that a
Minister should adhere to a pledge, but that did not refer
to an imaginary pledge.
Mr. HUME repeated that a pledge had been given, as
an answer to the rem tik about the 270,000 acres.

Sir G. MURRAY said that the pledge alluded to by
the Hon. Member was, that the country should incur no
charge in sending out the emigrants ; it had nothing to de
v‘ith the establishment for the colony.
Mr. LABOUCHERE said that this colony had been
funded on a wrong principle. He acquitted the Right
Hon. Gentleman (Sir G. Murray) of any intention to do
what was not right ; but the course nursued of giving large
grants of land to individuals was pregnant with mischief.
He thought it alio a very doubtful policy to people the
large continent of Australia with convicts. He hid un-
derstood that it had not been intended to make the Swan
River a convict colony, and be regretted to hear that it had
become so.
Sir G. MURRAY said that there never had been an
intention to make it a convict colony, and if it had become
so it was since he was out of office. The principle laid
down at the formation of the settlement was, that it never
should become a convict colony. With respect to large
grants of land to individuals in old colonies, it was no
doubt impolitic, but in new colonies it was only by making
large grants that individuals could be induced to carry out
emigrants.
Lord ALTHORP was not aware of the grounds upon
which the Hon. Member bad stated that the Swan River
had become a convict colony.

Alr LABOUCHERE had understood that application
had been made to that eff-ct by the settlers, and that the
application had been granted. Ile spoke only front an im-
pression on his own mind.
Mr. HUME called the attention of the Committee to
the large sum voted for Ceylon. There was a sum of

95,000/. more than the receipts for 1931 to IIP defrayed by
this country. This fine colony was capable of supporting
itself ; but it was the most extravagant colony belong-
ing to the Crown. There should be regular colonial
vouchers for the expenditure, and a debtor and creditor ac-
count.

Mr. RICE said that the apparent large expenditure was
occasioned by the redemption of debentures of a debt con-
tracted in the Canadian war. The civil establishment was
defrayed by the island, and better arrangements were now
made for rendering the revenues more productive.
Colonel TORRENS protested, in the name of the people
of England, against this country being burdened with the
civil expenditure of any colony.
Mr. RICE said that the Hon. Member's protest was un-
necessary, as far as regarded Ceylon, for this country was
not called upon to pay any part of the civil establishment
of that colony.
Mr. HUNT said that the protest was useless, for the
money would be voted.
Mr. HUME inquired of the Noble Under-Secretary for
the colonies, whether the statement of colonial expenditure
would soon be laid before the House.

Lord HOWICK said, there were considerable difficulties
in preparing an account which was perfectly new, and of
which great part was to be procured from the colonies. It
WAS his intention soon to present one as complete as pos-
sible for this year, and a more complete one next year.
Mr. BTJRGE said, that with respect to each colony pay-
ing its own expenses, he begged to say that the West
India colonies did pay the whole of their civil and eccle-
siastical, and part of their military expenses. Jamaica de-
frayed the whole of its civil and ecclesiastical establishments
(except the salary of the Bishop), and 140,000/. of its
military expenditure.

Colonel DAVIES said that there was not one colony
which was not a heavy burden to the mother country. In
the paper in his hand he found large items for the service
of Jamaica.

Mr. KEITH DOUGLAS observed, that it was a mis •
take to suppose that the military expenditure of the colo-
nies was for their service; it was for the general policy of
the country.

398,781/. for the charge of the Commissariat Depart-
ment generally.

13,2041. for the charge of half-pay Commissariat offs.
cera, and

83,3251. for the charge of Commissariat officers for tLe
ensuing year, were then agreed to.
195,0001. for the charge of certain salaries, pensions,
&c., hitherto paid out of the Civil List, but for which no
provision has been provided for out of the Civil List, was
the next vote.

Lord ALTHORP said that the present vote might be
considered in the light of a mere vote of credit for the
quarter ending the sth of April, 1832. It had been his
intention to have brought in a Bill to provide for the pre-
sent vote, but the pre,sure of other more urgent business
had hitherto prevented him. He hoped, however, to do so
before the period of the present vote should have expired.
The resolution was agreed to. The House resumed.—
Report on Monday.
On the motion of Lord ALTHORY, it was agreed to that
the House should at its rising adjourn till Monday.

On the motion of Lord Alnonr, the Lords' Amend-
ment to the Cholera Prevention Bill was agreed to.
IRISH SUB-LETTING ACT AMENDMENT BILL.
Mr. STANLEY moved the Order of the Day for the
House resolving itself into a Committee on this Bill.
A long discussion took place as to the inexpediency of
proceeding with a measure of so much importance to Ire-
land at that late hour, during which Mr. H. Grattan,
Mr. Leader, Mr. Sheil, Lord Killeen, and other Irish Mem-
bers urged the Right Hon. Secretary to postpone the mo-
tion so as to afford a full discussion.

The discussion ended in the postponement of the Com-
mittee to Monday.
On the motion of Mr. F. BARING, the House went
into a Committee on the Malt Drawback Acts. The Hon.
Gentleman observed that the former reduction in the duty
on spirits had proved not only advantageous in a fiscal
point of view, but had materially tended to the prevention
of smuggling in Scotland. After some further remarks,
which the general noise in the House made for the most
part unintelligible, he concluded by moving that the present
allowance on every gallon of spirits brewed from malt in
Scotland should henceforward cease and determine, and that
in lieu thereof another should be imposed, but to what
amount we were unable to learn.

Captain GORDON advocated the continuance of the
existing system, which had been adopted on the recom-
mendation of a commission, and bad hitherto produced the
most satisfactory results.
Mr. GILLON contended, that the change was injudi-
cious ; he looked upon it as a bonus to spirits of an inferior
quality, which would increase the consumption of an un-
wholesome beverage, and necessarily conduce to the de•
moralization of the people.
Colonel CONOLLY urged, that Ministers should en-
courage legal distillation in Ireland, if, from ne better mo-
tive, at least for sake of the revenue.

Mr. DIXON said that the measure would be carried by
the tneie numerical strength of Irish Members, who had
forced it on the Chancellor of the Exchequer without al-
lowing him to deliberate on it. He should oppose the al-
teration by every means in his power.
Sir G. CLERK supported the proposition.

Mr. W. CAMPBELL, and Mr. I.IPKENzta opposed it.
Lord ALTHORP begged to assure the Hon. Member
for Glasgow that it was upon deliberate consideration and
conviction be proposed this measure. Looking at it as a
question of revenue, affecting• the revenue of the country
at large, he thought it was an alteration that ought to be
made.

After a protracted conversation, in which Mr. Cal-
laghan, Mr. Warburton, Mr. C. Fergueson, Mr.
Shaw, and Mr. Gillon took part, the gallery was cleared
fur a division.

No division, however, took place, and the resolution
was agreed to.
The House resumed.—Report on Monday.
REPORT OF COMMITTEE ON IRISH TITHES.

Air. STANLEY brought up the report of the Select
Committee on the,Tithes of Ireland, and moved " that it
lie on the table."

Mr. SIIEIL enquired whether it would not be read?
Mr. STANLEY answered, that he meant merely to
move that the petition should lie on the table, and be
printed. On the recommendation of the Committee ulte-
rior proceedings would be founded, which of course would
be fully discussed.
Mr. H. GRATTAN said, that so far as he knew of the
report it was unjust, unsatisfactory, and premature. He
contended that Church property should be appropriated to
its original purposes, the chief of which was, the relief of
the poor. By taking that course, three emergencies would
he avoided—namely, the introduction of poor laws into
Ireland, which was a matter of very questionable policy ;
next, the enforcement of the Vestry Bill; and lastly, the
infliction of church-rates.
The report, after a few words from Mr. RUTHYSN, wall
ordered to lie on the table, and to be printed.
The House adjourned at a Quarter after Two o'clock.

With regard to the origin of the cholera, we
believe that there are few well-informed persons who are
not thoroughly agreed. It originally broke out in India
after a year of famine, in the course of which many thou-
sands died; and if our memory serves us right, it was
then denominated the "paddy fever," or the " rice
fever ;" the quality of the rice, which forms the principal
food of the natives of Ifindostan, being exceedingly bad—
the grain blue and watery, and wearing in every respect
the appearance, as it no doubt also possessed, the noxious
qualitits of frosted grain in this country. This fact, we
believe, is not generally known, and has only just occurred
to us as a matter which we had almost forgotten. It will
serve, however, to furnish an additional corroboration of
the fact, that those who are poorly fed, or who possess
weakly constitutions, are most liable to the attacks of the
disease; and that those, on the other hand, who are dif-
ferently situated have but very little to fear.—Morning
Ad 'riser.

As two of the Officers of the 98th regiment
stationed at Do wlais, Glamorganshire, were on their road
to the barracks on Sunday evening se'nnight, they were
attacked by four ruffians armed with pistols and bludgeons,
at a place midway between Merthyr and Dowlais, known
by the name of the Red Gate. " Your money or your,
life," said the villains. " Such as I have I give unto thee,
replied the officer to whom this demand was addressed ; and
suiting the action to the word he dealt one of the highway-
omen a tremendous blow on the head. the other officer,
as a ruse de guerre, turned his horse round, shouting with
all his might, " be firm R— assistance is at hand"—which
alarmed the villains, that they took to flight, having
first fired two shots. One of the officers (who has been
in several engagements), heard the balls whistle by his ear•
It is feared that one of the horses will lose the sight of is.l
eye by the ill usage it received from the ruffians.-81,rezes-
iiiiry Chronicle.
INQUEST ON ALICE BERRY, THE WIDOW
WHO WAS VIOLATED AND MURDERED.--The adjourned
inquest at Bolton, upon this unfortunate woman, was held
on Wednesday last. Nothing beyond the facts detailed
last week transpired. Time Jury brought in a verdict 01
•' Manslaughter" against the six men in custody. Witb
the exception of two, all the prisoners are young me'
They treat the matter with g„ at indifference.

. .
ti
TITHES.—IREL AND. Doyle (another cousin of the Bishop) gave their public our doubts. If Russia makes this a COll- I eress, was the only reason that made him give up the journey;
sanction to the opposition. The Rev. Mr. Archer, of • • •
dition of ratifying the Belgian treaty, we think
The folluwing is a copy of the Report, presented on Thuts- Blessingtoun, who presided
shortly before at two similar
France and England should look to it. Russi but Count D. ucha.tel and Major Parys returned to Antwerp to
assure me of his favourable sentiments. The superior officers
day by the Marquis of Lansdowne, from the Lords' Select meetings in his own district amongst the Wicklow moon- of the garrison were desirous of being fully assured of the cor-
rectness of the information brought by these gentlemen, and
has as little right to interfere in the affairs ofa
Committee appointed to inquire into the Collection and rains, attended and spoke at length against the tithe
Payment of Tithes in Ireland, and the State of the Laws system. This formal renunciation of tithe as an ecclesias-
Greece as in those of France, and it will be the to Brussels, in order to obtain from Baron Von Hoogvorst in
resolved to send Major Deys, Aide-de-camp to General Nypels,
relating thereto ;and to report their Observations thereon tical revenue, and public approval of the legal opposition
person a positive assurance respecting his speedy co-operation
of their parishioners to its levy, was all that was needful interest of 'Western Europe to keep the Bear at
to the [louse, Eke. in an Orange movement. Their expectations were disap..
That the Committee have proceeded to examine into the for the complete overthrow of the system. home. pointed, for Baron Von Hoogvorst answered, that Lord Pon-
sonby had told him- they should wait a few days longer, and
subject which has been referred to them; and although feeling is so strongly against the impost, that theln fCaaettioatlhilc.
The following are the' most interesting ex- that this advice must be followed. The moment for the
they have not yet been able to bring their inquiries to a priesthood could not now, if they wished, put it down.move-
the ----.
close, they think it their duty not to defer laying before
ES PRIC Or THE STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK. many distinguished and respectable persons had so deeply in_
House their opinion on parts of the evidence which has
Bank Stock
•been brought before them, and on circumstances which call 3 per Cent. Red
for the immediate attention of the Legislature. A resist- `.l. per Cent. Cons. seta 4 Ditto Bonds —
South Sea Stock — ports of France, directing that all vessels coming from the movement know, that they must defer the execution for a few
ante, more or less decided, to the payment of tithe appears l's, per Cent. .
Ditto ned.
feew3%per Cent. 90%4 Old Annuities
to have been made in several parts of Ireland, but more 89eeas New Ditto — Thames shall he subject to a quarantine of five days. days. Your Grace will be sensible of the danger of our situa_
The Government at the same time expresses a hope that tion, in consequence of this unexpected conduct of Lord Pon-
particularly in the counties of Kilkenny, Carlow, and 3 per Cent Ann 1706 3 per Cent. Ann. 1751
4 per Cent. 1806 . —lOO % Ex. Bills, £1,000.... ..... 8 7 pm. it may receive further accounts with respect to the cholera
Bank Long Ann to expire sonby. Many cried out there was treachery, many zealous per..
Tipperary, and a portion of the Queen's county, and sup- Ditto .....500 8 7 Pm. in London, which may admit of its softening, if not re.
ported by means of organized, illegal, and in same instances Jan,
15,
‘18,60161 ai 13-16 Ditto Small OlO 8 ,n,. sonsfollowing
,ahsi snot Lordship'sashamed
s sincerity, elraiyt y,
asidea nd already,th e
mask,on tdhee.
—pm yoking, measures which it adopts with the greatest daring to Major Parys in the Place Royelle, that he had another
armed combinations, the danger of which is increased by Oct. (5), issgg oll-16 .% Ditto Commercial
Ditto Advertised — em. reluctance.
the peculiar circumstances of Ireland ; but which, from Jan. 5, 1880 — Bank for Account — combination to propose, and no more must must be done Unfur-
lwhatever cause they may arise, if allowed to continue, and April S, 1880 - India for Account — OD Tuesday, immediately after a long diplomatic con- titer orders for the interest of the Prince of Orange. On the
to extend themselves successfully Jan. 5. 1870 Cons. for Feb.2B soN 7,,i ference at the office of the Minister for Foreign Affairs, same day he caused a report to be spread, that Prince Leopold to other districts, cannot
Count d'Appony sent off a messenger with dispatches for would be the new candidate.
fail to be applied to other objects, and ultimately to subvert rareas or FOREIGN FUNDS THIS DAT AT ".NI O'CLOCK.
the dominion of the law, and endanger the peace and security
Belgianetistrian. Bonds — Neapolitan
—_
__ .
—Prussian,
PeruviansPortuguesesian B(f)als
Bonds
Scripmost dreadful situation. Victims of our uprightness and our
Yesterday an extraordinary courier was sent off by the
of society. Brazilian uonds
It appears that the consequence of these proceedings has s\ieraos Ayres Bonds — British Ambassador to London, and another with dis- confidence, voluntary exile was the only course left to me, M.
Stevens, Major Parys, my Aide-de-Camp, Lefevre, and many
been, that in the districts where resistance has been made to Nolinalßanonit3losnds — Ditto, New
Russian
the payment of tithes the clergy have in many instances been Ottto, 1824
reduced to the greatest distress. Danish 664 18,23 _ Marquis of Alt•utlya, the Spanish Ambassador at the Court tlie policy of the English Cabinet ; but it is indisputable that
Greek Bonds
The estimated amounts, in the districts where this re- Ditto, 1825 . .............
French Reines, sp, c. —t. —c, of S rdinia, art ived here the day before yesterday, from the Orange movement which he himself had organised. The
-- Exchange —:. —..
= 3Epexcrhcaenngte. —f —c.
sistence has chiefly prevailed, according to information laid Guatirnala Turin, and set out yesterday for Madrid, where he is Five Great Powers had excluded themselves and their families
before the Committee, of SUMS due for the tithe, are, in the etexican Il.tones
'qv), IFes 3s's Dutch Scrip 40% of Minister for Foreign Affairs." nection of Prince Leopold with the Royal Family of England
dioceses of
()sway rln Compounded Parishes .£14,3451 £04,475 COURSE OF EXCHANGE YESTERDAY. Extract of a letter from Lisbon, dated Feb. 1 :—" The might be a reason for France to require his exclusion also. In
/In Uncompounded ditto
Letoeu, S-
.I.n Compounded Parishes.
(.1n Uncompounded ditto
47 who ordered the capture, is to be suspended for
CANBEL In 113 Compounded Parishes 23,4.90 Antwerp 12 2i Malta 46 and Military Officers, who, acting according to the dic-
twelve months, and an indemnity of 60,000 fr. is to
and In 25 Uncompounded ditto, on an 27 687 Hamburg M.B. 13 131 Naples 4O
EsILY average of those which have} 4,197 ' Altona l3 131 Palermo per oz. 119 be paid by the Government of Don Miguel to the mer- totes of their conscience, wished to deliver Belgium from the
been compounded
Pi chants and owners of the vessels. Such is the extent it. The day and hour were fixed, and there was every reason to
FERNS— supposed to be about 7,000 Ditto 2U.25 80 Oporto
KILDARE—ditto 5,000 Bordeaux 25 85 Rio Janeiro - expect a favourable result. A commencement of the execution
Berlin Bahia
Total.-- £81,954 Frankfort on Maine, Ex. M. 153 Buenos Ayres
Petersburgh, ruble, 3 Us. 10 0 Dublin, 21 days' sight ll4 Miguelites of the provinces adjoining the Spanish iron- changed his mind, sacrificed a great number ofrespectable and disl
It appears to the Committee, that in order to afford imme- Vienna, effective 11 2M. 10 6 Cork 134 tier, have combined with the other inhabitants, to tinguished persons who had trusted to his honour, and announced
diate relief to the distressed clergy, it is expedient that his Triestei,ii do lO 7 BULLION, PER OZ. to the French agents that he could at a moment's notice eject
f.ll upon all Spaniards who may venture over the
36 q £. s. d. „
Majesty should be empowered to advance to the incumbent, cadre
where tithes, or compositions in lieu of tithes, have been Balboa 364 Foreign Gold, in bars 317 10i coming to subject Portugal, and annex it to the that and Prince Leopold. They had soon made their choice
36 New Doubloons 0 0 0 and now the Members of the Congress were called upon by the
illegally withheld, or to his representatives, upon a petition egg:"
36 New Dollars
oid. in order h and English
to
prevent agents,arestoration.
to promote I
the
is election
we
l ol
Leo-
verified by affidavit, sums not exceeding the amount of the Gibraltar., 474 Silver bars.standard... 0 0 0 c •ovincing evidence of this hostile spirit, that the p
most strict orders have been sent to the Gover- that Lord Ponsonby wrote, as it were in haste,
to the incomes of each, according to a scale diminishing as THE LARGEST LITERARY PAPER. a
fia:fklneLtotweo ern:
arrears due for the tithes of the year 1831, proportioned
noes and other authorities of those provinces, to act which was read by the Belgian Minister in the Congress,
their incotnes increase. TH E AT HENIEUM with severity against all persons who may spread alarming and in which such fine promises were made. It is also known
That, as a security for the repayment of the sums so to of this day, price FOURPENCE, contains, in addi- reports, and even numerous Miguelites have been already that this letter, when it had obtained its object, was discovered by
be advanced, his Majesty ;dumbd be empowered to issue tion to its customary Reviews of New Works, Notices of, arrested." Lord Grey's Administration. As I know that your Grace feels
an Interest the happiness of our august and excellent Kin
orders to levy, under the authority of a law to be passed with copious translated Extracts from, Dumont's Remi- The Impartial, of Franche Comte, of the 12th inst., his dynasty, and in the prosperity ofunhappyg
for this purpose, the amount of arrears due for the tithes niscences of Mirabeau (just received from Paris), and the contains the following :—" The Polish General Sieraski, country,‘' I consider ittobe my dutytogis•e you mythe mostaC
„, of the year 1831, without prejudice to the claims of the Two remaining Vols. of Prince Puckler Muskau's Tour in who arrived here on W,dne-day last, has received /et.
curate and wholly impartial information of these events. I was
Ii clergy for any arrear that may be due for a longer period, England, &c. (just obtained from Germany) ; and, in ad- tent from Poland, painting the extreme severity with one of the principal victims, and request your Grace to make
' reserving, in the first instance, the amount of the advances dition to the other Original Papers, which the Ukase of the Emperor Nicholas is carried such use of this communication as you may think proper.
so made, and paying over the remaining balance to the AN ODE TO SPENCER PERCEVAL, M.P. into execution. A lady, one of his friends has had her " I have the honour, &c.
legal claimant. BY THOMAS HOOD. three children, one of which has scarcely left the breast, (Signed) " Baron VAN DER SMISSEN."
That where the tithes claimed by the party petitioning 'a* The Number out of print in last year's volume is torn from her, anti sent into the interior of Russia. When
shall be under the operation of the Composition Acts, the now reprinted, and perfect sets for 1830 and 1831 may be the Russian officer charged with the execution of this We have received a St. Thomas's Paper of
amount to be advanced shall be regulated by such composi- had at Fourpence each Number. barbarity made his appearance, the unhappy mother, driven
the 7th of January, which gives an account of
tion; where the amount of the tithe shall have been re- _
the destruction of the half of' St. Thomas's by
gnlated by any agreement independently of the Composi- man who was to rob her of her sons. Her attempt was
vain ; the infants were forced into the carriage, and the fire, which took place on the night of the 31st
tion Acts, the amount shall he regulated by such agree-
ment; and in all other cases by the average amount of the ri) r . ..,.. i 4 44, .
distracted mother set out after it on foot, and continued c
a
tithes .. • ..•• asa 44,44 December. At half-past ten o clock the alarm
• which have been really and bona fide paid or secured ' . ess-s. .to follow it at her utmost speed till she dropped on the ol•
to the incumbent of such parish for the years 1827, 1828,
_____-__ _ _ _
and 1829.
LONDON, (From the Con stitutionnel of Feb. 16.) the Garden, and about 600 or 700 houses or
That in order to the snore effectually levying the amount The Emperor of Russia, who since he has no longer to
e sums so to be advanced, it shall be lawful for the
of the SATURDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 18, 1832.
, dread the revolution of Poland, seems to wish to extend dwellings were burnt. The loss of property in
Attorney-General to proceed, either by petition to the Court his influence over all the affairs of Europe, has sent two buildings, &c., has been estimated at from two
to three millions of dollars. The town continues
of Chancery or of Exchequer, or by Civil Bill at the The Irish tithe question was again brought
couriers, one to Paris, and the other to London, to bear
Quarter Sessions of the county in which the parish or part before the House of Lords last night, and in
healthy, and we have heard of only one death by ,1
his Imperial will on the affairs of Greece. He proposes,
of the parish of such incumbent is situate, against all or
the course of the somewhat desultory discussion it is asserted, to choose as King of Greece, Prince Othon,
any of the parties from whom such arrear shall be claimed the second son of the King of Bavaria, who was born in accident. The flames were visible at a distance
, " due by such incumbent ; and that the said Courts re- that ensued, the Earl of WIcRLow made himself
1815. This young man being a minor, the Count Angus- of 42 miles. A large subscription has been '
raised for the sufferers.
sPectively may issue for the recovery of the sums
to be by process conspicuous by a furious wholesale attack on tin Capo d'lstria would remain President of the Govern-
them awarded, conformably to the provisions to
be Government, in which he was assisted by the meat during the regency, and the Three Powers, Russia,
inssrted in such Act of Parliament, and similar to those
Contained in several Acts of the Parliament of Ireland in sprightly vivacity of that most ethereal of States- France, and England, aft.er. having declared that Greece was
An interesting pamphlet, entitled " Present
Years 1787, 1788, 1799, and 1800, with such addi- placed under their protection, would s, nil three Commis-
thetimesmen, his Grace the Duke of BUCKINGHAM and sioners taken from each of these nations,to support at the same Prospects, by a Reforming Member of Parlia- I
may be thoughtto re introduced or alterations as fit I ment,” has just been published by Messrs. '
inttime the King and the Regent. This plan, which would
, -° such Act, as adapted to the circumstances now exist- CHANDos. Earl GREY defended the measures
protract the uncertain state of Greece anti the patronage ,
in in Ireland. of Government with much energy and temper, of Russia, has not, it is said, been sanctioned by the French itIDGWAYS, to which we invite public atten-
But strongly as the Committee are impressed with the
and a powerful Coadjutor .
found Ministry. A courier arrived from England has brought
necessitydjutor in Lord don—especially that portion of it which has
of maintaining the author its of the law, and re-intelligence, that on this head the English Ministry was
lieving the pressing wants the clergy have suffered from PLUNKE CT. disposed to act in conjunction with France, and to reject reference to the House of Lords—and the
a breach of it, they have anxiously turned their attention or to approve in concert with her the proposals of Russia. consequences likely to ensue from a rejec-
to the practicability of effecting an useful alteration in the We learn, on what we deem competent au- The French Ministry has done too much for Greece to
Present •tion of the Reform Bill. At present we
1 system ; and although the inquiry in which they 1 :
moray, that at the last interview which took abandon it now to Russian protection. It is time, , •
per-
have only time and space thus merely to notice
are engaged is not sufficiently advanced to enable them to hips, that a national Government should be allowed to
pronounce a distinct opinion as to the best means of re- place between Earl GREY and Lords WHARN-
establish itself in that country. We do not know whether it as the emanation of a patriotic heart and
moving the evils connected with the collection of tithes CLIF FE and HARROWBT, the two leaders of the Government will go so far; but, at any rate, the rejec- enlightened understanding.
' • in Ireland, enough has appeared to satisfy them that, tvith tion of the Russian proposition is a praiseworthy act.,
a view to secure both the interests of the Church and the the moderate Reform party, after a long and
(From Le Courrier Francais, Feb. 16.)
lasting welfare of that country, a permanent change of animated conversation, in the course of SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE--(THIS DAY.)
system will be required. That such a change, to be satin- FRENCH EXPEDITION TO ITALY.
which they suggested a variety of amendments, FROM LLOYD'S.
A Journal announces that a telegraphic despatch was
factory and safe, must involve a complete extinction of
tithes, which were all successively rejected by the Noble sent yesterday to Toulon, to order the military pre- FaLMOUTiI FEB. 16.--Wind S.W.--Arrived the
including those belonging to lay itnpropriatore, by
partitions for Italy to be suspended ; a part of the ex- Swallow packet, from the Leeward Islands, sailed from St.
commuting them for a charge upon land, or an exchange Earl at the head of his Majesty's Government, pedition had already set sail, and it has been necessary, no Thomas's the 14th ult.
for or investment in land, so as effectually to secure the to send to sea to bring it back. It is said that the
• • •
came to the resolution of giving in their adhe- doubt, revenues of the Church (as far as relates to tithes), and at RAMSGATK, FEB. 17.—Arrived off port, the Botley
news received from Bologna, and the assurances of the Wood, Wootten, from St. Michael's.
the same time to remove all pecuniary collision between sion to the Reform ❑Bill. Previously, however, to
Austrian Cabinet, have been the cause of this measure. BRISTOL, FEB. 17.—Arrived the Argo, Richards, from
the parochial clergy and the occupiers of land. this decision, frequent and angry interviews had If the evacuation of the Roman States be immediate, as Lisbon.
Feb. 16, 1832. M. d'Appony assured the President of the Council on Sun- as— --
--- ---- --- - taken place between the two Tory parties, and it
day last, there can be no reason fsr persevering in an ex-
CHOLERA MORBUS, OFFICIAL REPORT.
IRELAND.--DUBLIN, FEB. 15. was, we understand, at one of the latest and most pedition which in our opinion was resolved on very un-
CENTRAL BOARD OF HEALTH.
PARTS OF COUNTY KILKENNY AND intemperate of these, that Lords WHARNCLIFFE advisedly. Such enterprises are expensive, and when
COUNCIL OFFICE, WHITEHALL.—(THIS DAY.)
Q UEEN'S COUNTY PROCLAIMED. and HA RROWBY, finding that they differed in opi- they can be productive of no pod result, they ought
DAILY REPORT of CHOLERA CASES.
to be avoided, or at least stopped as soon as possible. _ --
On Monday a Privy Council was held at the Castle. •
nion less with the I\'linisterial Reformers, than the But it appears that this news is not correct, nothing ------
There attended the Archbishop of Cashel, the Earl o'has a.;
~, I ar
a 8 ,as a: ,
Charlemont (first time), the Bishop of Kildare, the Lord avowed Ultra-Antis,
.0 A. . .?: ' §sil'ig6
' Chief Justice Bushe, Sir 'William M‘Malion, Master of the We shall see whether the evacuation of Italy will not have Places and Date. -a ti c; . A ..),., ,.,
which we have just alluded. The Bill will in taken pl ice before its arrival, and whether our troops will TS ee t''
.i t' E b
art"lls; Mr. Radcliffe, Judge of the Prerogative Court ;E.- se 18 e cetE, 3.5
.ce ai, Z P X '..'t E °‘•ll'
Air. Blackburne, Attorney-General ; and Sir R. 11. consequence be carried with very slight modifi- not have to return without landing. a, -"
Vivian, PARIS STOCK EXCHANGE, THURSDAY, FEB. 16, FIVE -Newcas e, ______ —
na Commander of the Forces. The Council declared— cations, not one of which will trench even in the tl Feb. 16 6 2 1 1 6 945 296
" That the under-mentioned town-lands in the county o'ceoca.—Business has been nearly the whole of the day
Kilkenny and Queen's county respectively
are in a state remotest degree on its great leading principles• in a state of complete stagnation. The news received to- North Shields &c. Feb. 16 66 3 2 7 60 290 77
of disturbance, and require
an
extraorlinary establishment We may add that in every interview (and diy from London, has occasioned a slight fall at the com-
of police that is to say, the town-lands of Cloneen, Kill, mencement of business, and the Three per Cents. became t
Sou h Shields, Feb. 16 0 1 0 0 1 8 4
and Turtane, Ahatetbritt, Clough, Crutt, Upper and they have been numerous) that the Noble Earl steady at 66f. 60c., at which price they remained until the Hetton, &c., Feb. 16,
Lower Looan, Skehana, Ferada, Kilmacar, Knocknadoge at the head of his Majesty's Government has had close, almost without variation. There is generally speaks. Haddington, Feb. 15, lO 2 0 1 11 126 57
and Cooan, Esker and Lisnafunchin, the two Damestowns, • iog, much uncertainty in the movement of the Funds • there
Uskwith the leaders of the two opposing parties, . •
is still much talk of the mission of Count Orloff 'to the 9 3 0 7 55 268 73
being in the barony of Fassadining, in the county of Kil- the moderate Reformers, and the hopeless thick- King of Holland, and the certainty that this mission is of a Tranent, Feb.Feb.ls,
Preston Pans, Feb. 15,
kenny; also the following town-lands in the Queen's and•thin Ultras, he has uniformly held the same nature entirely pacific, gave rise yesterday to some pur-
,
county, via. chases, which neutralised the bad effects produced by the
:—the town-lands of Towlerton, Tierernan,
Gurteen, Garrendenny, Clonbacon, Coolenowl, Fait-lane,
Ballynegall, Goiesbill, language, that of inflexible determination to pretence of the cholera in England and here, where it ap- West Barns, Feb. 16
North Berwick, Feb. 14 3 0 0 1 2 16 7
2 4 0 0 4 12 8
.
Ballynakill, Maidenhead, Kilcourse, swerve, in no one point, from the main fea- pears certain there have been two cases, one of which was
bßaarlolYnfiyaolar
s,,,Dwomonane, and Slatt of Killirachley, all in the Musselburgh, Feb. 15
tures of the Bill. mortal, the totter has het n cured.
argy ; the town-lands of Boieg, Upper
and Lower 13allylihane, Mullagh more, Graharnsmote and FRENCH FUNDS.—PARIS, FEB 16.—Five per Cents., 961. 80c. Edinburgh, Feb. 15 0110 0 13 8
____ Bsc. 90c. 95c. 90c. 85c. 90c. 95c. 97f 96f. 95c. 90c. 85c. 95c. ; Three
Corbally, all in• per Cents., 66f. 45c. 55c. 54Jc. 60c. 50c.; Bank Stock,
the barony The Paris Papers
of Thursday, and Galzg-
oorantids,oii,
paper,onc Glasgow, &c., Feb. 15
of Ballyadams ; the town-Rente de Naples, 78f. 77f. 90c.; Royal Spanish Loan, 76. 75% %;
1,615 E , Kirkintilloch, Feb. 15
land of Luggneurran, in the barony of Stradbally ; and the nani's illessencrer of the same day, have been month,
1 efinttch
paper,,Pe r pet u e 1 I
25f.e 4ds'.
cEs. ; pma gonnee, y
,532.5 f. Exchangec.;
threemml 1 4 11 0 4 9 5
of Garry Glass, Graigenesmattan, Mogadd,
town-lands b
Graigencbacone, Knockadegarre,- Boolyhawn Aghnecrose It appears that the expedition or Don 2.if. 25c. ; money, 25L 23c.-i-Cours Authentique.
received. Mary Hill, Feb. 15 Bl 1 1 0 8 13 4
Contravers
Cullenagh.Y, Kilrush, and Raghnavoran, in 'the barony of'' PEDRO has excited the apprehensions not only
Upon the followina communication from 0 4 0 2 2 6 2
of Don MIGUEL, but of his friend FERDI• Paisley, Feb. 15
‘, Given at the Council-chamber in Dublin, Feb. 13." 0
German Papers, we leave the reader to draw his Total frlo'omtallilaces where 1251 the direalsel2ll44ceard, 2739
857
NAND, who has threatened to send help in case
GREAT ANTI-TITHE MEETING AT of need. If we may believe the following, from own conclusions : or from which no returns have been this day
received lB3l 514
GRAIG, COUNTY CARLOW.
the ConstitutiTHE NETHERLANDS.
On Sunday last above 10,000 persons assembled at the onnel, the Spanish army promised AUGSBURG, FEB. 9.—The English Standard of the 12th Grand Total 4570 (1371
or January contained a statement to the effect that it had
will not make its appearance on the frontiers of LONDON—THIS MORNING, Fan. IS.
Roman Catholic chapel-yard, which was soon filled to received a sixth letter from its correspondent, who signs him_
overflowing, and numbers were obliged to stand outside Portugal . self a Dutchman, but that it contained such heavy and minutely
..;! t
-d eii °, . ..: Z ...;
0 • detailed accusations against Lord Ponsonby that the Editor se ss s, . a',' E = s6=
the gate, filling the adjoining street to a diet ince so great
that they were far btyond the hearing of the different "We have already spoken of the preparations could not publish them without proofs, and advised his comes_ Districts.
.2 E- c;
.. ri 2) ,5 1 .s.' ,5 E:
pondent, if he had any proofs, rather to communicate them to ": t i $" \ t §, T ',:: ~'•
epithets, Graig lies altnost on the borders of the county made by Spain to preserve the system of Don some Tory Member of either House. In consequence of this
-.% 4' z s't -4,4-.1 `'-'.a. ,r..-: t
Kilkenny, and at least one-half of the multitude came the writer sent, on the 26th of Februar • another letter from .—...----- -.., .^: ~.,
MI EL from the ruin with which the approach-
from thence. They were in high good humour. The i GU Paris to the Standard, inclosing a document which he says Limehouse 1 1 1 0 5 4
reporter says that ~ Lord Grey's threat was not spoken of illg landing of Doll PEDRO seems to threaten will, he hopes, convince the Editor that all that he asserted in .
afloat in the River
01 , 00
01 0 0 2 2
in anger or in terror, but laughed at !" The following it, his last letter was true. This document is a letter from the
Rotherhithe and Ratcliffe 2, 0 0 0 2 2 0
resolutions and we have announced that Spain had given . ,
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_1747
may be taken as a fair :trample of the entire, as
well as the feelings given vent to by the epeakevs.Belgian General, Baron Van der Smissen, to his Grace the Lambeth
orders to her envoys in
Southwark
" Resolved, that the great body of the people of Ireland make known her resolutions. It is said that last "Mv Loan,—As I had the honour to serve under your
are reduced to a state of misers' un aralleled in the histor • Grace fn the battle of Waterloo, as Major in the third division
of the world !_miser p • 3' night a Council of Nlinisters was held, when this of Belgian
ay chiefly attributable to the odious Baron Von Chasse, and had the good fortune to draw
artillery, commanded by Lieutenant-General
Total
tithe b)stein
par..
..,L, , rid to the rapacity of the majority of the communication from Spain was brought (Signed) WM. MACLEAN, Secretary,
the attention of Lieutenant-General Lord Hill to the

On Sunday last above 10,000 persons assembled at the
Roman Catholic chapel-yard, which was soon filled to
overflowing, and numbers were obliged to stand outside
the gate, filling the adjoining street to a dist ince so great
that they were far bt yond the hearing of the different
spoke's, Graig lies almost on the borders of the county
Kilkenny, and at least one-half of the multitude came
from thence. They were in high good humour. The
reporter says that " Lord Grey's threat was not spoken of
in anger or in terror, but laughed at !" The following
resolutions may be taken as a fair sample of the entire, as
well as the feelings given vent to by the speak,es.
" Resolved, that the great body of the people of Ireland
are reduced to a state of misery unparalleled in the history
of the world !—misery chiefly attributable to the odious
tithe system, and to the rapacity of the majority of the
persona, who have neither affection for their country or
feeling for their fellow-creatures.
" Resolved, that it is inconsistent with common reason,
and incompatible with human understanding, to compel a
dman Catholic population to support in gorgeous splen-
dour, in luxury, laziness, and ease, a horde of bishops
and
parsons, whose only employment is to spoliate
property of the people, and to traduce and malign
their priests and religion."
The famous General Cloney, who made such a eon-
epicuous figure in Ireland in 1798, took the chair, and
rnade himself known to the multitude as a parallel for
9'Connell, being, though not " the best abused," the
b,est persecuted man in Ireland. Ilis exhortations to per-
' ere in the anti-tithe cause were received with loud
Cheer'. The priest of the parish (a namesake and relative
hop Doyle) also spoke at length, inculcating peace
!_nderperseverance. It is mainly owing to his constant
7zits tolcona and great influence that not a single outrage
11,,r curred in his parish, though in this very parish of
a'g the tithe opposition first began in earnest two
years ago.
Nitzt s
On Sunday ANn-.TITHE MEETING.
held at Naas ' another immense anti. tithe meeting was
Dublin), where the county Kildare (fifteen Miles from
:the •
parish priests, Dr. Hume and Dr

The Paris Papers of Thursday, and Galig-
nani's Messenger of the same day, have been
received. It appears that the expedition of Don
PEDRO has excited the apprehensions not only
of Don MIGUEL, but of his friend FERDI.•
NAND, who has threatened to send help in case
of need. If we may believe the following, from
tile Constitutionnel, the Spanish army promised
will not make its appearance on the frontiers of
Portugal :
" We have already spoken of the preparations
made by Spain to preserve the system of Don
MIGUEL from the ruin with which the approach-
ing landing of Don PEDRO seems to threaten
it, and we have announced that Spain had given
orders to her envoys in France and England to
make known her resolutions. It is said that last
night a Council of Ministers was held, when this
communication from Spain was brought
forward, and in which it was decided that
it should be made known to the Cabinet of
Madrid that a French corps would be assembled
on the Pyrenees with a view to enter Spain on
the very day the Spanish army should penetrate
into Portugal. If this resolution be true, it
must have been taken in accord with the Eng-
lish Government, which is bound by treaties to
protect Portugal against all foreign invasion.
We shall know in a few days what will be the
result of this. The declaration of Lord PAL-
MERSTON on the union of France and England
would thus be quickly confirmed."
We really hope the above may prove correct.
With regard to Greece there is a good deal
in these Papers. The National Assembly has
issued a proclamation, stating the various sub-
jects which will occupy its attention. As to the
choice of a German Prince, at the instance of
Russia, to .fill the Greek throne, we have

" My LORD,—As I had the honour to serve under your
Grace in the battle of Waterloo, as Major in the third division
of Belgian artillery, commanded by Lieutenant-General
Baron Von Chasse, and had the good fortune to draw
the attention of Lieutenant-General Lord Hill to the
good conduct of my brigade of artillery in the field of battle,
for which he expressed his satisfaction to me in the most flat-
tering terms, I respectfully take the liberty to address your
Grace, in order to give you some information respecting the
causes which oblige me to leave for the present my unhappy
country.
" During my residence at Antwerp as the Governor-General
of the province, M. Ellerman, the Hanoverian Consul, came to
me and said he had communications of the highest importance
to make to me on the part of Lord Ponsonby, and he could give
use the most positive assurances that his Lordship had instruc-
tions from his Government to favour as much as possible the
restoration of the House of Orange, but that he wished that a
popular movement should bring back the House of Nassau.
Ellerman added, that he knew my attachment to King Wil-
liam and my country, and therefore brought me into communi-
cation with the chiefs of the Orange party, who were to co-ope-
rate in the proposed movement : he said they depended espe-
cially on me to restore happiness and prosperity to my country,
and to preserve it from entire anarchy.
" On the '2sth of March, M. Stevens and Major Parys cause
to Antwerp to request me to support a movement which was
arranged with the most respectable inhabitants of Brussels.
Baron Von Hoogvorst, Count Duchatel, the Marquis de
Trazignies, and a number of other persons of the first rank,
had agreed together for this purpose. Every thing was already
positively resolved on. Baron Von Hoogvorst was ready to get
into his carriage, and to assure me personally of his sentiments,
and the fear that his absence might be remarked in the Coll-

THE FUND S.-(TH

S DAY.)

CITY, TWELVE O'CLOCK.
We have no arrivals, with the exception of a Leeward Island
mail, which sailed from St. Thomas's on the 14th ult., by which
we have a report of another fire in that island.
We hear that two expresses have arrived from Paris, but their
contents have not yet transpired.
The American packet of the 24th ult. has arrived at Liverpool,
but the papers and letters have not been received.
Consols o THE FUNDS.
pened this morning at the same price they left off
yesterday, 8214 96 for account, but no business doing. The spe-
culators are waiting to know the French prices before they com-
mence operations.
The cholera is little spoken of in the city, but the public should
be still on their guard.

L F-PAST ONE.
The express from Paris brings HA
the Rentes 66f. 50c. The packets
fromth Dover may take passengers to Calais, bringing bills of
heal from the French Vice-Consul at Dover. Consols are at
present 82% buyers.

Consols 82i. I

THREE 0' CL 0 CK.

This forenoon, at twelve o'clock, a deputa-
tion of the members of the City Board of Health, waited
upon the Marquis of LANSDOWNE, at the Council•office,
Whitehall, on the subject of the cholera. The interview
lasted till half-past one o'clock.