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tentinn of the House to the time the Navy Abuse 1
Bill was first offered for the consideration of
mmtl, at that period he well recolleaed, that tbe
ftieritfa of the Bill urged the-necessity of passing it
intmediatelY into. a Law,-.as many -.abuses iii t'he
Wavy were known to exist; lie therefore thought.
if there was good cause to pass the Bill into a, Law,,
r a very short notice, there was also good cause to
know vitnething-ofthe good cilia -produc'ed by the.
Bill ; he should therefore move, that the•Commis.
ft sioners appointed by Aof Parliament, toinvesti..
gate abuses in the Civil Department of the Navy,
as praaised by PriteAgents,- &c.:Btc. itrul report
.the same to the House. •,
Sir Cl/ARLES ?OLF said, he. ;lad the -honoOr..:
tO be one of the Commissioners appointed by the
8111' in question, and he could asstfre ti=le ''House,
that no tittle had been lost, and that eversince, lief •
with the other
,Commissiooers, had rnet.,a, they had
sat from five to seven hours a :day ; he thou4ht it
necessary to observe, 'that 'as soon as fair Coilies.
were made out, theßeport•sitould .litidbefot'e the
Honse for the inspection of. Parliament, and which
should be done as . early as. possible. He.did not'
doubt but if the Hon. Baronet had'inade.aoy inqui-
ry respeaing the business iiiquestioo,- (-.1. either of the
Commissioners, he w.ctu4l not have, brought forward
the present' Motion ; he, therefore, could. not but
receive it as a rebuke.
Cotain MARK!! 111! said, he had the honour
to be a. D,l.ernber of Ake' -130a4 .Adnikalty,
all he had, to observeat preA.ent on. the lion, Gentle.
man's remarks respe'lhig Mr. Taylor. was, chat •
the Admiralty considered the contra'a between
hitn and them, as .a
.141.1 one fur—the,. Pablic
Irv, however, should. nor. enter into-the p;3rticu:ars
.now, but when the business-comes before the-Ho:lse,
lie shout(' speak at sonic length, on the SUbjea ;
it may be necessary for him on the present occateiOn
to inform the House, that _a very ingenious Me.
cliaitk had invented an engine to cut bloas, at a
mueb less expence than Me. Taylor could make
.them for, consequently it the duty-of th'e Bi)ar-d
of-Admiralty to save the public money, ,by.: get iitt.
.
the blocks as cheap as possible. And,notwithstand-
ing-the Board of Adiniralty, had been abused by the
Hon.. Baronet, yet, he had the pleasure of -inform-
ing the House, that sioce the year .57 92,:. we have a
better Naval Force to stand against any Enemy, thati
we bad before that period. As to the .French Naval
Force, which hid been so much talked -of, it ooly
exited in the minds of Gentlemen on the opposite
side of the House. He did not hesitate to say, that.
the French Naval Force consisted of nothing but ‘4.1
few Fishing Boats.
The CIiiiNCELLOR, tf the EXCIIEPUER..

said, he concurred entirely with the Hon. Geetle,
man who said there Wall no imputation whatever
• of blame upon the Admiralty Board; but his regret
was, that some particulars bad been entered into in
the speech of the Hon. Member. who made this
Motion. All that had been said on the subject
to which the speech of the Hoe. Baronet referred,
niust necessarily form 'a part of the ()Nen to which
the Inquiry of the Committee was to le directed,
and surely it was nut too much to ask that the dis.
cushion of that. and other points which were the ob_
jet% of Inquiry of the Committee, shauld-be,sti.S.
resided until the Report had beets made. An I lop.
Gentleman, at the bead of the Committee, had stated
that the Report would in part be ready.in„the course
of a very few days, and he though; that Hon. Mein.
bet had latisfied the House there had been. no,delay
in the progress of the Inquiry, nor needed.that Hon.
Merrilw have brought forward any comparisoe be..
, tweet.) the present' time and that of the year 1790,
asao the interval' that had. passed between the form.
ing of the Counnittee and "the making a Report.
With regard to this .Motion, be did not, feel there
was any thing in the nature of 'the Motion itself
that tended to retied on any body, but there was
something in,the particular manner of the Hon. Ba.
rimer, in the
_speech with Which he introduced duet
Motion, that might be called an intended rebuke,
and es° a suspicion of an unnecessary delay. What
was 'the statement of the Hon. Gentleman at the
bead.ol" the Committee Of Inquiry' ? That they
werecalmost vire prepared with' one- part' of tle
Reviler, and that several other r'nts. were soon to
Come. forward : he could riot therefbretiVnk it
winded' appear to the House tlitre had ''lse'en' any .
• negligence •in the prOCeedin4s of`' Committee,
nor sops the ithritation of negbgehee indied stated,'
it was only implied from sat was stated by,
„the
Hen. Iltronet ; he' hoped. he 'did not intend to Con-
' -vey that imputation, and he ilibuld Ise elad ,tohesr
from the same quarter,' .afdiSclaiMer of stick
• cation. That -Hon. Baronet bad alluded' to some.
expreSsions which fell from hum (Mr. AontNo N)
previous to the Christmas. Recess; and he 's,entcd,
from.that.observation, to think that the- Alinralty
had, from an ill-tidied-and miserable paisiinony,,
starved a material part of the Public Service, .easel he
had compared the present state of the"Nivat Fbree,
wish the declaration made befctrethe Recess. Mr.
Ann isoTost, said, he had flinch rather be found to
have made an improvident declaration, 'thin that it
should 'appear that any part of the ru,b4:Servicc,
and particularly that part of it, bild beep starved by
yarsimony, or frorn any other eaoe negfeeteit or that
there should rest a suapidoss that it had been negleeted ;
but he made no such declaration as that-which had been
imputed to him. lie never said that fifty Sail df the
Line would be ready for Sea at a relomcnt.ot emir= .
gency, within a month, as the Hon. Baronet stated,;
but he said then, and he acid now, that attlidughln,
"rinse of P edze , on an etnertney,. fifty Sail of the
Line might he got ready fiir S, a ; 'not intimating,
for it would be madness to intinta(e, that, in that •
period all the men for that Imniher of f)hips;coold Ire
provided. His expression, at the title, conveyed
po-sucil meaning, and' it would iireCy 11111308 Si ble4
'from the nature of the thine; I so -it was now in,.
• possible to say eorreCily the period within which,.
that Fleet: could be manned. When a number, of
Ships arid.proper eget:tweets for them may be ready,
WAS a matter which' Migist be calculated, and there,
fore stated, and that was all to which his'expressihn
referred, and that might be still better known- by
those who were at thellead of- the NavatPepart.
• merit ; but 'how was it possible to know precisely.
when all the men necessary for th4r Set4d:ice
be procored ? That referred to a variety Of eorssi.
do.aiions-.4rsti toil)* state of the Merchants'
WeNngs fox stglAy cp!: