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LONDON,
THURSDAY EVENING, JULY 30, 1835.

The Irish Church Reform Bill went through the
Committee last night without opposition. The Tories,
well knowing the treatment it will meet with in another
place--to use a Parliamentary periphrasis—seem
anxious to hurry it as fast as possible to that place.
They may, perhaps, have good reasons for this
anxiety. If matters are to come to a crisis,
they may think it is just as well that the
crisis should be so timed as to give them forty days
for their operations, before the arrival of, to them, the
blackest day in the calendar—the eventful 25th of
October. But be this as it may, we beg leave to con-
dole with them on the introduction of a very important
amendment into the Bill. We doubt not they are
sadly vexed that Lord MORPETII has removed the
ground of one of their chief objections to the measure.
They have always maintained that there can by
no possibility be a surplus, and that to make an
ostensible appropriation in such a state of things, is
the sure way to instigate the people of Ireland to create
a surplus by all manner of unlawful and unchristian
means. How eloquently has PEEL harangued, and
GOULBURN drivelled, on the exterminating cruelty of
the Bill and its framers! How often have they con-
jured up horrid visions of Protestant laymen perse-
cuted, and Protestant Clergymen assassinated, to
bring parishes under the operation of the Act
Now, woe betide Lord AIORPETH for demolishing,
by a dash of his pen, the whole of this visionary fabric
—for dissipating every trace of those " pleasing dread-
ful" events which " cast their shadows before"—the
imaginations of the Tories. By providing that
50,000/. shall annually be paid out of the Consolidated
Fund, for the purpose of National Education in Ire-
land, to be repaid from the proceeds of vacant and
sequestered benefices as they fall in, the Noble Lord
has deprived his opponents of one fertile topic of fac-
tious clamour, and, as a matter of course, subjected
himself to their bitterest reproaches.
We cannot close these remarks without adverting to
the indecent scene which occurred during this debate.
We verily believe that there is not a _Mechanics'
Club that meets in the lowest pot-house in Lon-
don, the members of which would not feel them-
selves disgraced by using the language which is
now heard almost every night in the assembled Senate
of the most civilized nation in the world. Surely a
sense of what gentlemen owe to their constituents, if
they have no respect for themselves, ought to
to prevent them from giving way to the impulse of
passion on every trivial occasion, and exhibiting
themselves before the country and the world as better
qualified, if not more anxious, to excel in the oratory
of Billingsgate, than in that which becomes British
senators.

The Bill for limiting the time for polling at do,
tions to one day, passed through Committee last night
in the House of Commons. We regard t1);:s shorten-
ing of the duration of elections as ni:easure of great
importance, both in a moral and "political view. It is
well known to all who a 7, practically acquainted
with the working of our elective system, that
the greater portior, of the bribery, and no small
part of the intimidation which now so generally
prevail, take place on the evening of the first and morrs;:ng of the second day. The proposed plan,
though it will not prove by any means a complete re-
medy for the evil, is, in our opinion, well calculated
to diminish it, and therefore we hail it as a national
benefit. In this opinion we are sorry to differ from
Colonel SIBTIIORP, whom we have always been
accustomed to look up to as an oracle in counsel, and
a "pillar of strength." Our gallant friend and some of
his friends consider the measure as " unconstitutional
and destructive of order," and they therefore opposed it,
even to a division. They were unsuccessful. The
Bill we have now no doubt will pass, and they must i
make up their minds to take time by the forelock at
the next election, and open their purses a little earlier
than formerly.

Alderman WOOD suggested an amendment which
will we hope be adopted. It was that the liverymen
of London (who now vote at the Guildhall) should in

All Paris is filled with consternation and alarm in
consequence of the attempt to assassinate King Louis
PHILIPPE at the Review on Tuesday last, being
the second of the " three glorious days." The de-
tails of this atrocious affair will be found in another
part of The Sun, copied from the columns of a Morn-
ing Contemporary, whose correspondent has furnished
a much fuller account of it than any contained in the
French papers of Tuesday. The KING'S escape was
truly miraculous. His horse was wounded, not killed,
as was reported in the telegraphic communication re-
ceived in London yesterday. The Princes escaped un-
hurt, and are reported to have displayed considerable pre-
sence of mind. The composure with which the KING
behaved, after witnessing the removal of the mangled
remains of the Duke of TREVISO, was really astonish-
ing, and produced a powerful effect upon the people.
His anxiety was only for the safety of his sons, the
Dukes of ORLEANS and NEMOURS, who rode imme-
diately behind him.
Notwithstanding the horror with which we contem-
plate this murderous attack upon the Royal House of
ORLEANS, we must frankly acknowledge, that we
should not be surprised at any attempt made to assas-
sinate King Lours PHILIPPE. His Majesty must
be aware, that no Sovereign ever did more, in the
course of a few years, to disappoint the just ex-
pectations of his subjects. His conduct towards
the prisoners of April was infarn.'dus ; his per-
secution of the public Pre:
ignorant an tha act of an
d relentless '
.grant. We admire his
gigantic energies ; -we respect his great talents ;
and we revere 11,s conduct as the father of a family.
In all the
relations of life Louis PHILIPPP
is alrliPl.lle and intelligent ; but as the Sovereign of
the -frer.ch he stands exposed in the face of Europe,
a cr'jel, perfidious, reckless despot, ready to sacrifice
the lives and liberties of those who placed him on
the throne of France, rather than forego • tof
one jot the
Kingly prerogative. The heavy wrongs which he
has inflicted on the best and bravest spirits in France ;
the violations of the chartered rights of Frenchmen
daily committed by the tools of his tyranny under
the saction of his authority, have outgrown
the forbearance of a gallant nation, which
estimates the worth of its liberties by the price
at which they were purchased. Conspiracies for the
destruction of the SOVEREIGN are the natural conse-
quences of the present state of political oppression in
France. The Press is shackled, or rather strangled.
The nation is filled with spies and informers, so that
the people dare not trust the members of their own
families, lest their private thoughts should be conveyed
to the ears of a Government employed in hatching
plots and conspiracies, to effect with more security the
downfall of civil liberty. Neither the Constitution
nor the laws afford security to peaceable citizens ; as a
political Inquisition, such as the Court of Peers, may,
at the command of the KING, pronounce whomsoever
it pleases guilty of High Treason, without the for-
mality of a legal trial.
Now, while France continues in this state, there can
,)e no security for the person of the SOVEREIGN.
Every citizen who knows the value of liberty will be
either a traitor, or an abettor of treason. There will
be thousands and tens of thousands ready to peril their
lives to effect the deliverance of their country. Every

' new attempt will he made with more precaution, and
a greater chance of success. Of this we have a dread-
ful example in the several attempts which have been
already made upon the life of LOUts PHlLlPPE-
provided those previously made were really the work
of intentional Regicides. First, there was the pistol
Cot. This was indeed a clumsy affair. Next, there
v. is the plot for shooting the KING between
Neuilly and the Tuilleries. This was better managed,
and had the conspirators been in earnest, and not de-
tected by the Police, his MAJESTY would have more
to dread than the hazard of receiving a pistol bullet.
The " infernal machine" is the last instrument adopted,
and had the direction of the muzzle varied but a single
inch in a downward direction, Louis PHILIPPE and
the Dukes of ORLEANS and NEmouns would have
shared the fate of the miserable Duke of TREVIsO.
The other domestic intelligence contained in the
French Journals of Tuesday is not important. The
fetes were to be continued as if no attempt had been
made to assassinate the KING. The Monifeur contains
an Ordonnancc from the Minister of War, censuring the
conduct of certain officers in the army, who have thought
proper to make complaints through the public press,
and commanding that on all future occasions of the
same kind, all remonstrances shall be privately laid be-
fore the superior officers, as the only effectual means
of preserving the discipline of the army. The illoni-
teur likewise contains a Royal Ordonnance for remodel-
ling the scale of pay and allowances granted to supe-
rior officers, in the French effective service.

German and Brussels papers received this morning,
brinf, intelligence of the capture of a horde of pirates
who infested the coast of Smyrna, and committed the
most barbarous atrocities. They have been sent for
trial to Constantinople.
A letter from Antwerp of the 26th says, that one of
the prisoners of St. Pelagic had embarked in the morn-
inn on board the steam-boat for London.
The conditions for making an iron railroad from
Paris to Brussels are settled, and the expense is es-
timated at 100 million francs. The application has
been made for the permission of both Governments.
VIENNA, JULY 20.—Five per Cents., 1021 ; Four per
Cents., 98; Bank Shares, I,327.—Allgemeine Zeituny,
July 25.

DUTCH FUNDS—AmsTEttoAsi, JULY 27.
Money. Bills.
Actual Debt, 214 per Cent. 55% 55,4
A mort Syndic, 4 }.; per cent. 944 94)1
Ditto, ditto, 3y, per cent. 70% 80
Loan (1S30) 5 per cent.
Ditto (1832 and 1833) 5 per cent.
Commercial Company, 4'.', per c...nt lOB% 108!‘
New ditto IOIN 162
S FUNDS
Cortes at AmsterdaPm, SANISH pet Cent 40% to 414
Ditto, ditto, 3 per Cent '26 to 264
Loan. London (1832; 5 per Cent.
Cortes Coupons
Cortes Deferred Debt
Dutch Paper; July 28.

Advices from Constantinople to the 9th inst. have
been received. They convey the important and, by
us, unexpected intelligence, that MEHEMET ALI has
given his consent to the opening of a regular commu-
nication between Great Britain and India, by way of
the Euphrates. The presumed cause of a secession
so unexpected on the part of IVIEHENtEr ALI is his
terror lest the Porte should leave him to render singly
an account to England for his treachery.

Letters from Madrid to the 20th inst. have been
received. The capital was then tranquil, and the in-
habitants sanguine in their expectations of a speedy
termination of the war in the North. The Govern-
ment had received despatches from General ESPAR-
TERO, detailing some important advantages gained
over the Carlists on the 17th inst., in the immediate
vicinity of Leira. The REGENT, with the young
QUEEN and the PRINCESS, were at St. Ildefonso.
All the members of the Royal family were in excellent
health.
The advices from the seat of war in Spain, con-
tained in the French journals received this morning,
are comprised in the following bulletin addressed to
the French Government :—" CORDOVA, on leaving
Pampeluna, divided his army into two corps, which
occupied on the 22d instant Tafalla and Puente de la
Re)na. The Carlist army was the same day in the
environs of Estella, extending itself towards the Arva.
It had been joined by MERINO, QUEVILLAS, and
VILLALOBOS, at the head of their bands from Castile."

THIS DAY, THURSDAY, JULY 3O

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

THE SUN, LONDON, TIIMISDAY, JULY 30, V 435

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

The SPEAKER took the Chair at a few minutes after 1!?;
o'clock.
Mr. TOOKE brought up the Report on the Motley load
Bill.
TRINITY fiAltlidUß, BILL.
tt ha'vin been moved that the Report on this Bill be
agreed to,

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it
was with great regret that he rose to oppose a private Bill,
as he was of opinion that the Government ought not to inter-
fere with the private business of ate Eica.Se as a do':ernffitet,
and as seldom as peSsible should the Members of Govern-
ment interfere in their individual character as Members of
the House. Such had been his uniform practice during the
whole four years he had been in office.—( Hear.) There
were, however, occasions when it became the duty of the Go-
vernment to take part in such business, as for instance when a
private Bill touched or trenched upon the interests of the pub-
lic ; it was then tile bounden duty of the Government to lay
the case as it affected the public, before the Floese. Ile would
be unwilling to lead the Hense to suppose that he at all in-
tended to throw the slightest blame upon his Hon. Friends
who had the care of the Bill--their conduct had been most
fair and open—but as the collateral interests of the public were
likely to be much interfered with by the present Bill, he found
that his public duty compelled him to oppose them. It would
be in their recollection that a sum of 240,0001. of the public
money was advanced by the Treasury for the purpose
of completing the Leith Harbour and Docks; that money
was advanced upon the security of the Docks ; in the pre-
sent state of the affairs of the City of Edinburgh, there
was very considerable difficulty experienced in coming
to the conclusion that the money would be repaid ; he did not
mean to be understood as saying that it was to be considered
as altogether irrecoverable, but there were considerable doubt
of the matter. Now, the interests of the Crown and the public
would, or were likely to be much prejudiced by this Bill. The
way it would act upon those interests would be simply this—if
the Bill were allowed to pass in its present state, no doubt
the value of the property would become much less,
and the consequence would be, that the Government
could have no other object left to pursue but that
of directing immediate steps to be taken against Leith and
Edinburgh for enforcing the rights of the Crown, a course
which he was very unwilling to see adopted, for at this mo-
ment it might be productive of consequences which it would
be impolitic to hazard. He ventured, therefore, to entreat his
two Hon. Friends to abandon their Bills for the present ses-
sion ; and he did so in the same spirit towards each, having no
partiality for one Bill or the other. His Right Hon. Friend
the Lord Advocate had abandoned his intention of bring-
ing forward his Bill this Session---(Hear)--and, therefore,
he was constrained, as an act of public duty, to come down to
oppose the further progress of this Bill. The parties had been
all along forewarned that if they did proceed in this matter,
they did so at their peril, because he told them that at some
future day he should oppose them ; therefore the question of
the stage at which the opposition was offered was disposed of.
He referred the House to the Report of the Select Committee
appointed to inquire into the present state of the harbour of
Leith, a Committee in every way calculated to inspire the House
with confidence, of which his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. La-
bouchere) was the Chairman. All its proceedings were con-
ducted with perfect impartiality, and an entire sense of justice,
and the whole of the case was carefully considered. He
called the attention of the House to the recommendation of
that Committee, which came to the conclusion that they were
justified in recommending the Government to abandon the
debt. But the Government could not abandon that debt un-
less they saw that some good was to be done by it, and that
point could not be ascertained without a local inquiry. If
this Bill were persisted in, under present circumstances, Go-
vernment would be deprived of that opportunity. He
did not oppose the principle of the Bill, and next session it
would be assisted by the Government. He did not mean to
say, that because the Government had a claim of this kind, all
local improvement should be suspended until that was settled ;
but that, though it might be a matter of no importance to
those professedly engaged in those improvements, it was im-
portant for the Government to inquire how far the sacrifice of
such an immense sum of the public money would be productive
of any public benefit. Upon these grounds be should move
the postponement of the further consideration of the Report
until that day two months.
Mr. TOOKE gave full credit to his Right Hon. Friend
the Chancellor of the Exchequer, for his disinclination to in-
terfere with private Bills, but he thought that he had taken
a most severe course on the present occasion ; for the parties
had come into the House a second Session in the hope that
they might succeed. The question was whether the Govern-
ment should, by negotiating for the recovery of a
bad debt, cause the construction of a bad harbour.
He considered it a matter of extreme hardship to these parties
that they should be driven to the enormous expense of a third
session to procure that which, in the whole course of the evi-
dence, was proved to be fraught with great public advantages.
He had never in his experience known any private Bill to
have excited so much hostility as this Bill had, and under
circumstances, too, when the whole opposition arose upon
technical points and the standing orders. He had consider-.
able diffidence in addressing gentlemen of considerably more
local knowledge on this subject, but seeing the conduct and
motives of those who opposed this Bill, they were too
obvious to escape Honourable Members.---( Hear.) There
was no pretence for alleging that this harbour was not the
best, but the promoters of this Bill were to be put
to the expense and delay of another 12 months, without any
compensation for the anxiety and expense of the two sessions
during which they had been endeavouring to get this Bill
passed. This same debt was again made the pretence of ob-
structing great public advantages. But for this very ques-
tionable debt--one that there was not a chance of recover-
ing, there could be no reasonable objection to this Bill, and
yet for this debt the greatest public advantages were to be
compromised. He did not think that this was a measure on
which the strength of the Government ought to be put forth.
Admiral ADAM had not only a considerable local know-
ledge, but from his profession, great experience on the subject
under discussion, and he would state most decidedly that his
reason for opposing was that he did not believe it would effect
the objects which the public desired, and the Bill professed to
keep in view—viz., the best possible low water harbour that
could be placed upon the shores of the Frith of Forth. he
was of opinion that the harbour, as laid down, would not be
the best possible low water harbour. There were so many
faults and defects in this Bill, that he would not trouble the
House by entering into details ; but, in his opinion, it would
be improper to allow this Bill at present, as it would put
it out of the power of others, at a future period, to construct
a harbour sufficient to meet the wishes of the public. Look-
ing at the question in another point of view, he_ would
oppose it. Immense sums had been laid out on works
at Leith, and it would be only justice to the public,
who advanced those large sums of money, and to those
who were connected with the place, that an opportunity should
be given to them to place a low-water harbour in such a po-
sition as would meet these great, he might say, stupendous
works. It was ridiculous to sacrifice so large a sum of mo-
ney, when by a small delay arrangements might be made so as
to make the best possible harbour. The evidence completely
supported him in his opinion, and he had not the least hesita-
tion in opposing this measure.
Sir W. RAE concurred in every word that had fallen from
the last Hon. and Gallant Member. He did not think there
was any hardship in the ease, and the House in his opinion
would do perfectly right in opposing it.
Colonel LEITH HAY—As one of the active promoters
of this Bin, felt it to be his duty to say a few words. In
taking charge of the present Bill, he considered he was doing,
that which would not only be for the benefit of his own coun-
try, but of that of the country at large. The state of the
Harbour of Leith was such as to render it impossible to be of
much service, and the sooner, in his opinion, some other har-
bour was erected the better. He must do his Majesty's Mi-
nisters the justice to say that they had not, during the pre-
sent Session, concealed from the parties bringing forward
this Bill, their Intention to oppou it. He, however,
put it to the House whether the measure was necessary or
not. In his opinion, if the present Horbottr were allowed to
exist, the value of property would be decreased. Was it right,
he would ask, to go on year after year putting oir measures
that were calculated for the good of the Harbour of Leith
No measures had been introduced for the purpose, and urn::
these circumstances it was he was anxious the Bill should pro-
ceed. If it was the opinion of the House that the Bill compro-
mised any public good, the House should take its own course.
He considered he had done his duty in advocating the intro-
duction of this measure, which, to his mind, was not a private
but a most important public Bill. If it was the opinion of
the House that this measure should be deferred to another
session, it was not for him to set himself against the opinion
of the /louse -; but he left it to the good sense of the House
to say whether they would allow so important a measure to
go over onrhaps,
Mr. LA BO UCHERE thought the House would not be
acting a consist,ent part, to nor seep after the Select Corn-
elitist& nad time its iteport, and Alio* the Bill to crass
without having the accounts. If the House passed the pre.,
sent Bill they would affect most materially the rights of
and so be doing that which he contended
cdent on the annals of the House.—( Hear,
hear, hear.) wtheietahpror.ou)pt e
precedent on the annals of the l-louse._( Hear,
hear, hear.) Th effect of the Bill being to erect a rival
harbour, td this great detritent of property belonging to the
City of Edinburgh. As the Chairman of the Committee that
had been appointed to inquire into the subject, he must say,
that they had devoted many weeks to the consideration of the
subject, and were at the time unanimous in their opinion of
recommending to the Chancellor of the Exchequer that there
was a reasonable prospect that the advance of public money
that had been made might be applied to matters greatly for
the benefit of that part of Scotland; but if the present Bill
passed, he despaired of coming to any such satisfactory result.
There was some hope that the Leith Harbour Commissioners
would be shortly able to reduce their dues, and on these
' grounds he trusted the House would support his Majesty's
Government in the course it had thought right to adopt.
Mr. BROTHERTON thought the postponement of the
Bill would be a very great hardship to the petitioners. He
felt grateful to the Hon. Member for Truro, for his advocacy
of this measure. It appeared that Leith Harbour could never
be made a good or useful one, whatever sums of money were
expended on it, while it was equally clear that the contemplated
one was likely to meet the views of the public and of its
promoters.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL assured the House that
no person was more sincerely desirous of having a good har-
bour established for Edinburgh, the City which he had the
honour to represent. It seemed to him that it would be for
the bene,fit of all parties that this nityasure should be deferred

•
to another session, and the postponement would be the only
way of coming to a settlein•nt advantageous to either. He
wtts very anxious that the time of the House should not ii
further odetipied With this discussion; and therefore, with the
observation, that in ins (the Attornep.Oeneral's) opinion the
object of obtaining a good harbour could be best attitintlti by
May, I,e 41101Alrgive his Me NT the postponement.
HUME would Vote. agalnnt the potponcnint for the
verySanie reason as that alleged by tlit Hon. and Learned
Ge rifk aim); I;6•Tiatis. lir wiSbed to §pe, A ,stods:, }ittrbont cot' the
city of Edinburgh. The whole weight offaiol
before the Committee, seemed to him ( Mr. Hume) to be
against the arguments of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman.
He trusted too panties i oiiiu '6O Allot,ed to jtulge for them-
selves in the present case, and if they suffered in tneh• prttes
by this Specultitios, it was nothing to the House, provided
the public benefit be attained.—( Hear,
hear, hear.) He protested against aid ineo.mtustency
of the course pursued by his Majesty's Government, and he
hoped the House would do justice between the city of Edin-
burgh and the petitiotiert, The inhabitants of Leith wished
for a good harbour, and admitted that thq present was nut a
good one.—( Oh !) Was_ it not a fact that no more money
could be raised upon the credit of the Harbour dues of' Leith 7
Was It net certain the Government would advance no more
money, and these two positions proved the injustice and in-
consistency of the present attempt at postpeacment. The
i
trustees say they can borrow no more money, and if no party ns
terferes the Harbour must remain useless for all large vessels.
Under these circumstances, a third party came forward, and
said they would undertake to construct a harbour without any
expense or risk to tile public, and combining all the advantages
that were considered necessary. Why, then, should the Go-
vernment refuse to allow them to do so? If the Government
was a creditor to the amount of 265,0001., that should not
tempt them to stand in the way of improvement in other
quarters. Such conduct was contrary to every principle of
justice. The petitioners should be allowed to make this
harbour at their own cost, and on these grounds he
should certainly support the motion that the Report
of the Committee on the Bill be further considered.
Sir JAMES GRAHAM had attended the sittings of the
Committee and perused the evidence most carefully, and his
impression was that the best course would be to postpone the
motion, and he should therefore support the amendment of the
Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer. The City of
Edinburgh claimed the right of the soil in the place where the
proposed harbour was to be made. Now he believed it was an
unprecedented thing for Parliament to give a power of this kind
where there was a claim of right pending—they would, in
fact, be giving a right to one party to oppose the very party
who claimed the property in the soil. The question, how.
ever, was merely one of time.—( Hear, hear.) He believed
there would be found to be an almost imposssibility in im-
proving the Harbour of Leith. He would not then enter into
the question as to whether the grant was an improvident one.
His own opinion was that the grant of 265,0001. was so ; but
the real question now was, whether the House would give
the Government time to come to some arrangement with the
other creditors of the City of Edinburgh. If that negocia-
tion should fail, or was not likely to be concluded before the
next session, he for one would not then oppose this Bill. But
while there was any chance of the negotiation being brought
to a satisfactory conclusion, he could not see any hardship in
those parties, who had gone, after notice from both the last
and the present Government that they would oppose them,
being obliged to come back again.
Mr. WILKS could not agree with the Right Hon. Baro-
net that those parties should be obliged to lose the many
thousands of pounds which they had already expended in
coming before Parliament during two Sessions—why should
they be obliged to come another Session at an enormous ad-
ditic nil expense, when they expressed their willingness to have
a clause introduced into their Bill to prevent them from com-
mencing the works until next Session, or such other time as
the Treasury should fix. He could not suppose anything
more fair or reasonable. In the Leith harbour, which it was
agreed almost on all hands, could not be improved ; there had
not only been a great deal of money thrown away, but the whole
coasting trade of England was made to suffer very severely,
which would be remedied by this Bill at no expense to the public.
But if this Bill, which had cost so much time, labour, and
expense, should be postponed until next session, would all the
objections against it be then removed ? Another argument
against the Bill was, that it would affect the rights of property
in the Corporation of Edinburgh ; but he denied that—for
the parties would not be able to take anything to which Edin-
burgh would not be entitled.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that the Bill would
authorize the parties to take possession of a particular part
of the shore.
Mr. WILKS was of a different opinion, because the soil
was not included in the schedule, and the parties could take
nothing that was not included in the schedule. The schedule
limited the powers of the parties. He would ask whether
parties who had come forward at a great expense to make a
great public improvement, were to be treated in this way ? For
his part, he thought the Bill ought to pass in its present
form, but he would have no objection to the insertion of a sus-
pension clause.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER could con-
firm the statement that the parties made a proposition to in-
sert a clause to suspend the operation of the Bill, but at the
same time he must remind the House that he told them that he
could not recommend the House to pass an Act leaving it to
the Government to say whether it should take effect or not.
But the law of the land as it now stood was that no public
harbour should be attempted unless previous notice was given
to the Admiralty, and the object of that law was to protect
the public from any useless expenses. In this case no notice
had been sent.
Mr. HUME said that if such a law existed, it ought not
to be enforced in a maritime country like this, and more espe-
cially in this case, after the Bill had been before Parliament
two Sessions.
Mr. LUCAS said the question should not be regarded
as one relating merely to the rights of the Corporation
of Edinburgh, or the expenses of a voluntary speculation,
but simply how the interests of the public could be best se-
cured.—( Hear.) It seemed to be acknowledged on all
hands that the present harbour was in a bad state, and injurious
not only to the commerce of Scotland and Ireland, but of
the whole country. He could easily account for the unwil-
lingness of Government to enter into a scheme which was
likely to be productive of great expense, after the loss of a
large sum by a bad experiment, which, however, ought for that
very reason to be abandoned as soon as possible.--( Hear.)
There was a clause in the Bill which provided for the in-
terests of the Corporation, so that if the society of Trinity
Harbour laid out money on ground which was not their own,
the Corporation would reap the benefit. There was another
clause which provided further security, by giving the Trea-
sury an absolute veto to prevent the works being carried for.
ward. On these grounds he thought that the interests of
private individuals were sufficiently provided for.
Mr. C. WOOD—These parties were bound to give no-
tice to the Admiralty of this Bill. He had been at the Ad-
miralty within this half hour, and no notice had been given.
Mr. HUME—The Hon. Member had read the clause, but
he had not read all of the clauses. There was a penalty of
2001. for not giving notice, and these parties would rather pay
the penalty than lose the Bill.
Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the House
divided, when there appeared—
For postponing the Report
Against it
Majority against the Bill • —33
INSTRUMENTS OF SASINE SCOTLAND BILL.
The Lord ADVOCATE moved that the further considera-
tion of the Report on this Bill be postponed to Thursday next.
Sir W. RAE suggested that it would be better to postpone
it till next session, in order that Hon. Members might have
time fully to examine the Bill.

Mr. PRINGLE thought that the measure ought to be
postponed till the next Session.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL thought that his Right
Hon. Friend had done well to postpone the Bill fora few days,
but he would not recommend him to postpone it till the
next Session. He approved of the Bill the Right Hon.
Gentleman opposite had introduced about two years ago,
and he trusted it would be persevered in, and that when
the Report of the Commissioners was made it would be
the foundation of a great and impartial measure on the subject.
After some observations from Mr. WYNN, Mr. STEWART
MACKENZIE, and Mr. SINCLAIR, which were inaudible in the
Gallery,
The LORD ADVOCATE observed that it was never in-
.ended that the present Bill should have a prospective ten-
'^ncy. There was at present great risk and expense attend-
' ;wench of the Scotch law, and there was a general
-•city with regard to landed property in Scot-
' 't.e Bill was to remove that feeling of in-
-"d therefore he could not con-
"asure to the next Session. ,
either side of the
.1 it contained
'4 to do.
-uld

ing they
....:

feeling of insee,—
land The object of

security and save expense, ...

sent to any postponement of the
There cotld, of course, be no feeling
House but thaf Of meeting whatever objectioi,
fairly, and that he (the Lord Advocate) was preparb.
Sir WILLIAM RAE trusted the Learned Lord

see the propriety of postponing this Bill for another year, in
order to put the public in possession of its details. He thought
it was one of too great magnitude and importance to be passed
through the House at that late period of the Session.
Mr. WALLACE said there were three Bills brought in by
the //earned Lord—the Bankruptcy Bill, the Imprisonment of
Small Debts' Bill, and the Arrestment of Wages Bill, which,
he trusted, would be persevered in. He (Mr. Wallace) had
himself presented lately seven petitions, signed by not less than
13,000 operatives residing► in and around Glasgow, in favour
of these two latter Bills, and the people of Scotland gene-
rally would be extremely disappointed if these Bills werp not
carried through during the present session. There was a sys-
tem of agency carried on at the Public Works, where the peo-
ple were obliged to pay from 30 to 40 per cent. of an over-
charge upon their goods, the agent there had recourse to the
arrestment of wages, and the system was totally demoralizing
the working people.
The further consideration of the Report was then postponed
till Tuesday next.
, CREULTY TO ANIMALS BILL.

Mr. PEASE moved the Order of the Day for the House
going into Committee upon this Bill.
Colonel SIBTHORP wished he could persuade the Hon.
Member to put the Bill in the fire.—(A laugh.) The Gal-
lant Colonel read one of the clauses, which gave the power
to justices to grant warrants to enter where it was suspected
the person was about to commit cruelty.. He was proceeding
to abuse it, when he was informed that it was withdrawn.
Ile was glad to have got rid of one clause; at any rate. He
hoped many more would follow.
Mr. M‘KINNON supported the motion fur the Speaker
leaving the Chair, because the Bill only went to consolidate
all the laws upon.the *subject, and to reduce the penalties of
Mr. Martin's Act, and extend its provisions to the country.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL was ready to lend his

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