The Sun.
London, England, 1835-07-23 00:00:00

TIM SUN, LONDON-, TITURSDAY, JULY,2, 1835.

of GellerAi TnEzEL, and a section of the French
artily near Algiers, on the 26th June, by ABDEL
-,
kADER, and a party of Arabs. The number of
French killed in the. engagement exceeded 500.
The accounts from Toulon say, that up to the 14th
at noon, there had been 867 cases of cholera, and 821
deaths, but a letter doubts the statement of the official
bulletin, and says there .is reason to believe that the
deaths have been near 1,200.
FRENCH FUN DS —Putts, .It•l.v 21.
Five per Cents., 110 f. 10c. sc.
Four per Cents., 091. 2 v.
Three per Cents., 70f sc. 15c. 10c. 13c.
Bank Actions, 2,03, f
liente do Naples, 97t. 31c.
Roman Five per Cents., 1007;434g 101.
itente il'Espagne, Five per Cents., 4'14414.
Brute d'Espagne, Three pet Cents., 267,,1; Tb Via.
linyal Spanish' I.oan , 44
Rent, Perpet. d'Opagne, Five per ('cut., 41%74,
Ile!gian Loan Five per Cents, 101%
Portnuese Loan,
Five per Cents , t:1!4.
EXCHANGE ON LONDON
. o.le month, paper, —l. ; money, 23'. 47.74 e.
T!, ree months, paper, 9..V.:35.: ; mciney, 255. 32y4.c
f rszialheafigne.
BOURSE, THREE o'Cr.ocK.—The Government having pub-
lished another telegraphic despatch, which confirms the one
of yesterday, the 3 per Cents. got up to 79f. 15c., with a
brisk demand. Spanish stock is much in request, and the
prices are rather better.
QUARTER TO FOUR. Five per Cents., 1091. 15c. ;
Three per Cents., 791. 25c. ; Five per Cents. Spanish, 411 ;
Threoper Cents., Spanish, 261 ' • Cortes, 404; Coupons, 23;
Guebhards, 44 ; Diffcres, 17 ; New Loan, 514 ; Definitives,
; Certificates, —; Actives, 491; Passives, 14-. k ; Ducats,
97 40 ; Romans, 101; Belgians, loll; Pedros, 91i ; Miguels,
—; Dutch, —; Haytian, —; Brabant Bank, 131.

Madrid Journals to the 14th instant, have been re-
ceived this morning. The greatest tranquillity pre-
vailed in that capital up to the date of these papers,
the idhabitants no longer doubting of the success of
the QUEEN'S troops after her MAJESTY'S cause had
been so warmly espoused by Great Britain. The ar-
rival of more British Auxiliaries was looked forward
to with intense anxiety.

It is supposed that the Cortes will be called together
about the middle of August, as the Government is in
want of fresh supplies. The meeting of the Cortes
will greatly strengthen the hands of the Consti-
tutionalists.

The REGENT has retired to La Granja—the usual
summer residence of the Spanish Court. Her MA-
JESTY rather shuns than courts popularity, which is
the more to be wondered at as she is an excessively
vain woman. The reasons assigned for the REGENT'S
love of privacy are such as ought not to be promul-
gated on slight grounds. The young QUEEN and the
PRINCESS, her sister, have a separate establishment
allotted to them.

General VALDEZ, whom the Carlist organs reported
dead, arrived at Madrid in good health. He was
kindly received by the QUEEN, who re-appointed him
to the command which he previously held in Valencia.

BlnsseLs and German Papers have been received.
King LEOPOLD has authorised the authorities in
Belgium to prevent the entrance of suspected persons
without passports into the kingdom. This measure is
evidently adopted in order to prevent the prisoners who
have escaped from the dungeons of St. Pelagie from
secreting themselves in any part of Belgium. Ac-
cording to the law, the prisoners being charged with
political offences, cannot be given up by the Belgian
Government, provided they succeed in making good
their footing in the kingdom.
The German Journals bring no news of importance.
DUTCH FUNDS—AmsTEmma!, JULY 21.
Money. Bills.
55% 55%
91% 94%
Actual cnt, tot
ra
tl
sDyenbdt tent per
,Cceeint tt.
Ditto, ditto, 33 per cent 743i 80
Loan (1830) 5 per cent.
Ditto (1852 and 1833) 5 per cent.
Commercial Company, 4! per cent. lOB% 109
New ditto

Exchange on London, One month.... l2 2234.
Two months
SPANISH FUNDS.
Cortes at Amsterdam, 5 per Cent 4014 to 41
Ditto, ditto, 3 per Cent 26 to 2614
Loan. London (1832: 5 per Cent.
Cortes Coupons
-- Cortes Deferred Debt
Dutch Papers, July 22.
BELGIAN FUNDS.—BRUSSELS, JULY 20.
Actual Debt, 2% per Cent,
Ilothschild•a Loan, Five per Cent lOl
Loan of City, 1832, Four per Cent. 99%
Sociel of Commerce, Four and a Half per Cent ll7
Bank of Belgium, Five per Cen• ll4
—Brussels Papers, July 22.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

THIS DAY, THURSDAY, JULY 23.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
The SPEAKER took the Chair at Twelve o'clock.
LAMBERT'S DIVORCE BILL.
On the motion of Mr. POULTER this Bill was read a
third time and passed.
Mr. HALL DARE brought up the Lords' Amendments to
the Southend Pier Bill, which were agreed to.
Mr. Alderman WOOD brought up the Report of the Com-
mittee on Bergman's Naturalization Bill, which was then read
a third time and passed.
CARRIAGES (METROPOLIS) BILL.
On the motion of Alderman WOOD the House went into
Committee on the Metropolis Carriages Regulation Bill,
Mr. PRYIIE in the Chair.

On clause 2 being read,
Mr. ROEBUCK suggested that the plates on all Hack-
ney Carriages should be the same, containing the name of the
proprietor, his residence, and the number of the carriage.
After a few words from Alderman WOOD, the clause was
agreed to.
Clauses 3,4, and 5 were agreed to without observation.
On clause 6 being read, which regulates the licensing of
driver:: and watermcn,
Mr. POTTER thought the licence of 20s. for drivers of
hackney-carriages, and 12s. for watermen, was too much.
If he was not mistaken, hackney-coaches were at present sub-
ject to a duty of 10s. a week, or 26/. a year. He should
move, as an amendment, that the licenses for drivers be 55.,
and that for watermen 2s. 6d. .

Mr. HUGHES HUGHES questioned very much whether
the Stamp-oftlee would consent to any reduction of the duty.
Mr. ROE BU CK, after some observations on the compara-
tive respectability of driveA and watermen, which we did nut
distinctly catch, proposed that the drivers of hackney-carriages
be exempted from taking out licenses.
Mr. R. STUART said the Committee could not discuss
this clauso 7 for the appointment of Commissioners, before
having a Committee of the whole House, in order to give them
power to proceed with them.
Mr. ROEBUCK suggested that it would be better to post-
pone the whole Bill under the circumstances, and have a dis-
cussion with the Chancellor of the Exchequer when present.
•

Sir J. WROTTESLEY wished to low, as this was im-
posing a new tax, whether the Hon. Lord of the Treasury
(Mr. Stuart) had any communication with the Chancellor of
the Exchequer.
Mr. R. STUART said, no, he had not; but seeing the
Bill was a money Bill, he had, as a matter of order, put for-'
ward the suggestion he Ind done.
Mr. H. HUGHES said he thought the point of so much
importance, that be would divide the Committee upon it.
Mr. ALDERMAN WOOD said the Bill had been pre-
pared to afford relief to his Constituents, who were almost
ruined by the great nuisance, which this Bill would put an end
to. It had been agreed to by the Chancellor of the Exche-
quer, that the Commissioners should he struck out, and the
eight Magistrates taken from the different offices who had
been reported by a police Committee as having very little to
do, and he expected to have seen him in his place, in order to
give his consent to the change. If the Bill, which was
one of the very greatest importance an 1 one which net
one of the parties to be affected by it had complained
of, and now, if it did not pass the Committee this day, it
would be lost for the Session, and his constituents, and the
inhabitants of London generally, would be completely ruined,
as the proprietors pf the coaches were most anxious to have
their servants regiltered, and under all those circumstances,
he trusted the House would consent to go on with the Bill.
Sir J. WROTTESLEY having long had his attention
directed to this subject, had much communication upon it with
the present Earl Spencer, and was appointed Chairman of
the Committee that sat upon it. That Committee had taken
the greatest pains, and had produced a Bill which lie con-
sidered perfectly sufficient to meet all the exigencies of the
case. Last year the Hon. Alderman (Wood) brought in
a Bill, and the Government again asked him to preside
'over the Committee. The Secretary at War, with all that
zeal and intelligence which belonged to him, took great
pains, and did all he could, to make the Bill acceptable.
The Hon. Alderman, however, would not contradict him
when he stated that the Hon. Alderman himself, and other
Aldermen, introduced several clauses which he (Sir J. W.)
found it impossible to support. These clauses were, how_
ever, adhered to with the utmost pertinacity.—(Hear, hear.)
When the Bill came from the Committee in that state, he
could not support it. Tho Hon. Alderman in the early part
of this session gave notice of his intention to bring in a Bill
upon this subject. He (Sir J. W.) told him not to bring in
a long Bill. The Hon. Alderman said that there should be
no complaint on that score, as his Bill would only contain 8 or
9 clauses. In the Committee, however, 62 clauses were
added.—( Hear, hear.) And these clauses were at variance
with the principle of the Bill. lie bad never ridden through
the streets, that his attention had not naturally been directed
to this subject ; and lie could assure the House, that he did
not think that there was any obstacle in Westminster, that
was not promptly got rid of by the police.—(Hear, hear.) If

this Bill were confined to London, he should offer no objection
to it; but, with every wish to support it, he found it impos-
sible to do so. If the Hon. Alderman would amend his Bill,
so as to withdraw the objectionable clauses which be had
pointed out, and would also confine its operation to London,
he would not object to it. If not, and if he persisted in re-
taining all the machinery of this Bill, upon himself must
rest its rejection.
Mr. R. STEWART again pressed the withdrawal of the
Bill, until the Chancellor of the Exchequer should have sig-
nified his consent to it.
After a few words from Mr. ROEBUCK and Mr. MANGLES,

Mr. WILKES said there could be no doubt that in point
of form this Bill could not be proceeded with. There could
be but one opinion as to the object of the Hon. Alderman in
introducing this Bill, but he should feel it his duty to oppose it.
Mr. Alderman WOOD pointed out the inconveniences to
which the public were subjected, under the present system.
If the Committee were satisfied with the manner in which
these public vehicles were at present conducted, the people of
London assuredly were not. Ile should leave the matter to
s nnebedy else, and give himself no further trouble about it.
When much greater injury had been inflicted on the pub-
lic, and much more expensive loss of life, then the
necessity of this measure would be more apparent.--( Hear.)
The consequence of rejecting this Bill would be to make these
drivers more violent than ever. If any of the Hon. Members
who opposed this Bill would only spend two or three hours at
the Bank of England, they would see the great necessity
which existed fur the measure. If the Committee persevered
in its opposition he should certainly submit.
Mr. M'KINNON supported the measure, which he should
be glad to see extended to the districts about London. He
wished to know whether it was not possible to proceed with
the Bill, leaving out the clauses that were objected to?
Alderman WOOD—That was what I proposed.
Mr. ROEBUCK said the Commissioners were alluded to
in almost every clause, so it would be impossible to proceed
with it, leaving out any reference to them.
After a few words from Mr. WILKS,
The CHAIRMAN reported progress, and asked leave to
sit again.
Mr. PRYME moved that the Hull Election Committee
have leave to sit during the sitting of this House.
The Clandestine Marriages (Ireland) Bill went through
Committee.
WEIGHTS AND MEASURES BILL.

The House then went into Committee on the Weights and
Measures Bill, resuming pt clause 13.

Sir JOHN WROTTESLEY suggested that there ought
to be some provision in the Bill as affecting the payment of
tolls upon canals—they were generally paid upon 120 lbs.
Again, in the case of miners, they were often paid by weights,
regulated by the custom of the place, and mit by legal weights.
Lord EBRINGTON'S reply was inaudible in the Gallery.
Sir J. WROTTESLEY was perfectly satisfied with the
Noble Lord's explanation.
Mr. WARBURTON suggested an amendment, the object
of which was not heard in the Gallery.
A discussion ensued, in which Mr. Hodges, Mr. Aglionby,
Sir J. Wrottesley, Mr. Wilkes, and Mr. Roebuck took a part.
Lord EBRINGTON seeing the sense of the Committee
against him, would not press the clause.
Clause 13 was then postponed.
Clauses 14, 15, and 16 were agreed to without comment.
On Clause 17 being proposed,
Mr. JEPHSON thought the inspectors in Ireland should
have a permanent salary.
The Clause was agreed_ to, as was also Clause 18.
Mr. ESTCOURT recommended that great care should be
taken to have the local standards, perfect duplicates of the
Exchequer standards. The stamps upon the weights were a
source of great expense to traders, but they were no protection
from fraud, and were only intended to show that the weights
and measures in use are legal. The Hon. Member referred to
the evidence before the Parliamentary Committee, to show
that the stamps were useless. But he would go farther, and
say that this stamp would be positively injurious, because it
would induce traders to consider that the weights were cor-
rect, when at the same time it was clear that the stamp was no
proof of the correctness at the time the weights were used.
The clause would, therefore, be a positive delusion, and he
thought that the Noble Lord ought not to insist upon the con-
trivance of such mischievous provisions as there were in this
Bill. If, therefore, the stamps were useless, as he contended
they were, it was, he thought, a highly improper species of le-
gislation to enact such a provision as that contained in the
28th clause of the Bill, viz., that persons guilty of offend-
ing against this Act should incur a penalty of fifty pounds.
Why was there a difference made in the comparing a half-
hundred weight of brass, and a half-hundred weight of iron ?
He thought it absurd to assert that there was more trouble in
stamping brass than iron, as the contrary was the fact. He
would suggest as an amendment, that all that part of the
clause, relative to the stamping of the weights, and the regu-
lation of the fees for stamping them, be omitted. It would
diminish the expense very much to traders, and retaining this
part of the clause would be no real protection to the public.
Mr. WARBURTON observed, that the Committee of
1831 had recommended that no stamp should be put upon
the weight but that of the maker. That appeared to him a
very reasonable suggestion, and he begged to submit it to
the Noble Lord opposite.
Lord EBRINGTON hoped the Committee would not
assent to the amendment of the Hon. Member for Oxford.
The object of the Bill was not to prevent every fraud that
might be attempted, but to establish uniformity. Doing away
with the stamps would not diminish the expense, as inspectors
must still be continued for the purpose of imposing fines, &c.
The Hon. Gentleman had quoted the evidence of two re-
spectable gentlemen certainly, but they were both interested
parties, being both makers of weights, and of course interested
in keeping up the old system. The Noble Lord quoted the
evidence of several gentlemen in contradiction to that cited
by the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Estcourt). He was perfectly
persuaded that if this system of stamping was done away
with, the Bill would be comparatively otlittle use. He hoped
the Committee would reject the proposal of the Hon. Mem-
ber for Oxford University.
Mr. BENNETT said the inspectors ought to go round to
the shops, and examine the weights and measures, lest they
should be rendered fraudulent, after receiving the legal stamp,
which would then be a sanction to fraud. The Noble Lord
admitted, and it was an argument against himself, that the
Committee of last year were unanimous in favour of stamping.
He contended that the stamping was not only useless, but it
was detrimental unaccompanied by the constant surveillance
of the inspectors.
Mr. HAWES drew the attention of the House to the
clause, which, as it stood at present, would produce fifty-two
varieties of stamps, and fifty-two varieties in stamping.
Mr. JEPHSON—The Hon. Member said that the stamp
was no proof of the continuance of the just weight. Ile
acknowledged this, but when once a weight or measure was
stamped as correct, they might leave it to the general acute-
ness of the people and the appearance of the weight to show
whether there had been any deterioration.
Mr. WALKER reminded the House that in the first Com-
mittee they were unanimously in favour of a stamp. The ex.
pense would not be greater to persons using weights and mea-
sures, but the expense on the county rates would be greatly
diminished.

After some observations from Mr. E STC 0 URT in reply,
Strangers were ordered to withdraw, and the House di-
vided, when there appeared—
For the original clause
For the amendment 3'3
Majority for the amendment —l
The House then resumed. The Chairman reported pro-
gress, and asked leave to sit again.
The Mouse then went pro forma into Committee on the Elec-
tion Expenses Bill, which was ordered to be printed and
amended, and read a third time on Wednesday.
The SPEAKEit then left the Chair.