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Lord J. RUSSELL said he would vote for the second
reading of the bill, and stated that any change in his pre-
sent views to those he had formerly expressed on this sub-
ject was the result of reflection, and the alteration that had
taken place in his opinions with 'eference to the question.
He considered that they were much more likely to main-
tain the Church in its efficiency—(hear, hear)—and in
the affections of tho people by abolishing than retaining a
compulsory impost for its support. (Hear.)
The house then divided, and the numbers were—
For the second reading .
Against it
193
Majority —7O
The bill was accordingly read a second time
Mr. NEWDEGATE gave notice that on going into
committee he would move an aznendment, the exact nature
of which was not clearly understood.
FIS
This bill was read SALMON
a second H
time.ERY BILL.
TRAMWAYS (IRELAND) BILL.
This bill was read a second time. •
The other orders of the day were then disposed of.
The house adjourned at half-past five o'clock.
PARLIAMENTARY DIVISION.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.--JuLy 13.
CHI ROIL RATES ABOLITION BILL.
Order for second reading read. Motion made and question
proposed, " That the bill be now read a second time."
Amendment proposed, to leave out the word "now,"
and at the end of the question to add the words "upon
this day three months." Question put, "That the word
now' stand part of the question•" The house divided.—
Ayes, 263 ; Noes, 193.

AYES —263.
Acton, Sir J. Fenwick, Henry Morris, D.
Adam, W. P. Ferguson, It. Mostyn, Hon. T. E
Agnew, Sir A. Fermoy, Lord Napier, Sir C.
Alcock, T. Finlay, A. S. Noble, J.
Andover, Lord Fitzgerald, J. D. North, F.
Angerstein, W. Fitzroy. Rt. Hon H. O'Donoghue, D.
Ant-..obus, E. - Foley, Hon. H. W. O'Ferrall, M.
Ashley, Lord Foley, J. H. Onslow, Guildford
Atherton, W. Foijambe, F. J. S. Paget, C.
Ayrton, A. S. ‘ Forster, Charles - Paget, Lord C. E.
Bagwell, J. Fortescue,llon. D. Palmerston, ViscL
Bailey, C. Fortescue, C. S. Paxton, tilr J.
Ball, E. Fox, W. J. Pease, H.
Baring, H. B. Freeland, H. W. Pechell, Sir G.
Baring, Sir F. Garnett, W. J. Perry, Sir Thos. E.
Bass, M. T. Gavin, Major Peto, Sir 31.
Baxter, W. E. Gibson, T. M. Pigott, Francis
Beale, Samuel Gilpin, C. Pilkington, James
Beamish, F. B. Glyn, G. C. Pinney, Wm.
Beaumont, W. B. Glyn, G. G. Pollard UrquhartW
Berkeley, H. Gower, F. L. Ponsonby, A.
Berkeley, F. Graham, Sir J. E.G. Portman W. H. B.
Biddulph, Col. R.M. Greenwood, J. Price, W. P.
Biggs, John Gregory, W. H. Pryse, Capt. E. L.
Black Adam Gregson, S. Pugh, D. (Carman)
Bonham-Carter, J. Grey, Rt. Hn. SirG. Ramsden, Sir J. W,
Bouverie, E. P. Grey, italph W. Raynham, Viscount
Brady, John Gurney, Samuel Ricardo, G.
Brand, H. B. Hadfield, Geo. Rich, H.
Bright, J. Hanbury, It., jun. Ridley, G.
Briscoe, J. I. Handley, John Robartes, T. J. A.
Bristow, A. Hankey, Thomson Robertson, D.
Brocklehurst, John. Hanmer, Sir J. Roebuck, J. A.
Bruce, H. A. . Harcourt, G. G. V. Russell, Lord J.
Buchanan, W. Hardcastle, Jos. A. Russell, Hastings
Buckley, 31aj.-Gen. Headlam, Thos. E. Russell, A. J, E.
Bulkeley, Sir R., St. Heneage, G. - St. Aubyn, J.
Buller, J. W. Henley, Lord Salomons,Alderman
Bury, Viscount . Herbert, H. A. Salt, T.
Butler, C. S. . Hodgkinson, G. Schenley, B
Buxton, C. , - Horsman, E. Schneider, H. W.
Byng Hon. G. H.C. Howard, Hon. C. Scholefield, W.
Caird, James . Hutt, W. • Scott, Sir W.
Calthorpe, F. H.' Ingham, R. ' Scrope, G. P.
Campbell, W. F. Ingram, H. Seymour, H. D.
Cardwell, Rt. Hn. E. James, Edwin Shafto, IL D.
Castlerosse, Vist. Jervoise, Sir J. Shelley, Sir J. V.
Caveneish, Hon. W. Johnstone, Sir J. Sheridan, R. B.
Clay, James Keating, Sir H. Sheridan, H. B.
Clifford, C. C. Kershaw, J. Smith, J. B.
Clifford, H. M. King, Hon. L. Smith, A.
Clive, George Kinglake, A. W. Somerville, Sir W.
Cogan. W. H. Kinglake, Serj..T. Stauiland, 31.
Coke, W. C. Kiugscote, Lt.-Col. Stansfeld. J.
Colebrooke, Sir T.E. Knatehbull-Hugess Steel, .John
Collier, It. P. Labouchere, IL. Stuart, Lord P. J.
Coningham, Wm. Laing, S. Stuart, Major
Cowper, W. P. Langton, IL G. Sullivan, 31.
Craufurd, E. H. J Lanigan, J. Sykes, Col. W. 11.
Crossley, Frank Laslett, W. 'Talbot, C. R. M.
Dalglish, Robert Lawson, W. Taylor, Hugh
Davey, R. Leatham, E. Tollemaehe, Hon.F
Davie, Sir H. R. F. Leatham, W. Tomline G.
J
Davie, CoL P. Lee, W. Turner, J. A.
Deasy, Richard Levinge, Sir R.G.A. Vane, Lord H. G.
Denison, W. H. F. Lewis, Sir G.C., Bt. Villiers, Rt. Hon. C
Denman, q. Lindsay, W. S. Vivian, H. 11.
Divett, Edward Locke, J. Walter, John
Dodson, John G. Locke, Jos. Walters, R.
Douglas, Sir C. Lowe, Rt. Hon. R. Watkins, J. L. V. •
Duff, M. E. Lyons, Dr. Wemyss, J.
Duff, Major. Lysley, W. Western, T. S.
Dunbar, sir Wm. Mackie, J. Westhead, B.
Duncan, Viscount Mackinnon: IV. A. Whalley, G. H.
Duncombe, T. S. Maguire, J. F. Whitbread, S.
Dundas, Frederick Mainwaring, T. White, Luke
Dunlop, A. M. Marsh, M. Wickham, H. W.
Dutton, Hon. R. H. Martin, P. W. Willcox, B. M.
Egerton, E. C. Martin, J. Williams, W.
Ellice, Rt. Hon. E. Massey, W. N. Willoughby, Sir H.
Ellice, E., jun. Matheson, A. Wilson, J.
Elphinstone, Sir J. Mellor, John Winnington, Sir T.
Ennis, John Merry, James Wood, Rt Hn. Sire
Esmoude, John Mildmay, H. Wynne, C. G.
Euston, Earl of Miller, William Wyvill, 31.
Evans, T. W. Mills, T.
Ewart, William Moncreiff, J. TELLERS.
Ewart, J. O. • , Monk, C. J. Dillwyn, Lewis L.
Ewing, H. E. C. Monson, W. J. Baines, E.

•
NOES-193.
Adderley, C. B. Griffith, C. D. Newdegate, C. N.
Ansou, (`apt. Grogan, Edward Nicol, William
Arbutlinott, Gen.H. Hamilton, Lord C. Noel, G. J.
AstellJ. H. Hamilton, Jas. H. North, Col.
Baring, Thomas Hanbury, Captain Northeote, Sir S. 11.
Barrow, W. H. Hardy, Gathorne Parke, C. W.
Bathurst, A. A. Hartopp, E. B. Pakenhan, Col.
Beach, W. W. B. Henley, J. Pakiugton, Sir J. S.
Bective, Earl of Hennessy, J. P. Papillon, P. 0.
Bentinck, G. W. P. Henniker, Lord Parker, Major W.
Beresford, W. Herbert, Col. P..E, Patten, J. W.
Bernard, Thos. T. Renate, Sir F. Paull H.
Blackburn, P. Hill, Lord E. Peel, Gen.
Bond, J. W. Hill, Hon. R. Pevensey, Viscount
Booth, Sir R. G. Hoare, Josehp Philips, J. H.
Botfield, Bernth Holford, R. S. Potts, George
Bramston, T. W. Holmesdale, Lord Powys, 4. P.
Bridges, Sir 8., Bt. -Hood, Sir A. Pugh, D. (Mont.)
Brooks, it. - Hope, G. W. Puller, C. W.
Bruce, C. L. C. Hopwood, J, T. Quinn, Peter
Bruen, Henry Hornby, W. H. Ridley, Sir M. W.
Burghley, Lord Howes, Edward Rogers, John J.
Burrell, Sir C., Bt. Hubbard, J. G. Holt, J.
Cartwright, Col. H. Hume, W. Salt, Thomas
Cave S. Hunt, G. W. Sclater-Booth, G.
Cecil, Lord R. Ingestre, Viscount Selwyn, C. J.
Churchill, Lord A.' Jervis, Captain Seymer, 11. K.
Clinton, Lord R. Jolliffe, Sir W. Sibthorpe, G. T. W.
Close, M. C. Jolliffe, Capt. if. Smith, Abel
Cochrane, A. D. Kekewich, S. Smollett, A.
Codrington, Sir W. Kelly, Sir F. Somerset, Col. E.
Cole, Hon. H. A. Kendall, N. Spooner, R.
Cole, J. L. Kennard, C. Steuart, A.
Conolly, Thomas Kerrison, Sir E. Stewart, Sir M. B.
Corry, H. T. King, J. K. Stuart, Major W.
Darner, L. S. W. D. Knig•htley, R. Sturt, H. G.
Dawson, R. P. Lefroy, A. Stracey, Sir H.
Deedes, Wm. Legh, G. C. Talbot, Hon. W. C.
Dickson, Col. Legh, W. Taylor, Colonel
Disraeli. Benjamin Lennox, Lord H. G. Tempest, Lord A.V.
Drummond, Henry Leslie, C. V. Thyune, Lord H.
Duncombe, A. Liddell, Hon. H. G. Tollemache, J. H.
Duncombe, W. E. Lindsay, Colonel Torrens, R.
Du Pre, C. G. Long, R. P. Trefusis, Mon. C. H.
Earle, It, Long, W. Upton, GPhei al
Edwards, Major H. Longfleld, Robert Valetort Lord
Egerton, Sir P. Lowther, Captain Vance, John
Egerton, A. F. Lyall, G. Vansittart, Wm.
Egerton, W. Lygon, Hon. F. Verner, Sir Wm.
Eatcourt, S. Macaulay, K. Vernon, L. V.
Farquhar, Sir M. Malins, It., Walcott, Adm. J. E.
Farrer, James Manners, Ld J. J.R. Walp)le, S. H.
Fellowes, Edward March, Earl of Watlington, J. W.
Ferguson, Sir R. A. Matheson, Sir J. Way, Arthur E.
Filmer, Sir E. Miller, T. Way, W. E.
Forester, Col. G. C. Mills, A. Whiteside, Rt Hn J.
Galway, Viscount Mittord, W. T. Whitmore, H.
Gard, R. S. Montgomery, Sir G. Williams, T. P.
Greene, Capt. J. Moody, C. A. Woodd, B. T.
Gladstone, 'apt. Morgan, Major Wyndham, Sir H.
Gladstone, W. E. Mowbray, lit. lin. J. Yorke, Hon. E. T.
Goddard, A. L. Mundy, William.
Gordon, Capt. 211 ure, David Gore, J. R. 0. Murray William TELLERS.
Gore, W. It. 0. Naas, lit. Hn. Lord Du Cane, Chas.
Graham, Lord Wm. Newark, Lord Montagu, Lord R.

PAIRS
For Against
Mr Adeane Sir J. 'I rollope
Lord Stanley Mr Cross
Mr D Seymour Mr Knatchbull
Mr Slaney Mr B Stanhope
Sir II Verney Sir W Miles
Mr M'Cann Col Powell
lion C Fitz- lion H Wynd-
william ham
Mr Thornhill; Mr Palk
Mr Cobbett Mr Collins
Mr F G Baring Majr Hamilton
Colonel Tynte Sir C Mordaunt
Mr O'Connell Col Knox
Mr Crawford Lord Jermyn
Mr Mitchell Mr Beecroit
Mr Holland Col Wynn
Mr Norris Capt Banbury
Mr Hodgson Mr Cobbold
Mr 31 T Smith Col Gilpin
Mr P O'Brien Col Maxwell
Hn P Bouverie Col Pennant

For Against
Mr Laystoni Mr Repton
Hon L Ellis LdGCavendish
Sir It Bethell Sir M Lopes
Mr Bazley Mr Cooper
Mr Cobden Mr It Palmer
Sir J Duke A If Baring
sir le Smith -- l i amber' son
Mr Roupell Sir .1 Carnac
Mr J Greene Sir H Lecke
Sir J Ogilvie Lord Curzon
Mr M'Evoy Col Forde
Mr Blake Capt Archdall
Sir W Mills Sir H Verney
Ld Dunkellin Sir It Peel
Mr Monsell Mr Wriglitson
Mr Woods Capt Gray
Mr Tite Sir H Cairns
Mr T Russell Col Bernard
II n A Kinnaird Mr Horsfall
Mr I'3l'Mahou Sir J East
Mr Jackson Mr Cayley

IRONMASTERS' QUARTERLY MEETING.

WOLVERHAMPTON Wednesday Evening.—The
usual quarterly assembly of the ironmasters of this
district was held in this town to-day. The attend-
ance was not numerous, and the 'business actually
transacted was limited; but the tone of the assembly
was good, the comparatively cheerful feeling which
prevailed being the consequence of the announce-
ment of peace between France and Austria, and the
prospect thereby afforded of the iron trade assuming
more activity than has marked it for the last three
months. It is seldom that there is much iron sold
at the Wolverhampton meeting, parties preferring
to make their engagements to-morrow at Birming-
ham, but there was unquestionably more inquiry 1;y
consumers to-day than there has been of late for-
nearly all descriptions of finished iron, and more
confidence was evinced in the maintenance of prices
as declared at the Stewponey a fortnight
a There was a fair attendance of the London,o.Liver-
pool, and Bristol shipping firms .
and,
, although
they are slow to enter into contracts.; there was a
general concurrence of opinion that the downward
progress of the trade has been arrested.
The make of pig-iron hasbeen reduced by blow-
out furnaces. It is hoped that
‘, withthis tmovementanticipated will
have the effect, in conjunction
increased demand tor
of manufactured, iron, of check-
ing the downward price
pigs," which are now
barely remunerative to the producer.
At the great meeting of the trade in Birming-
ham on Thursday we shall be able to arrive at some
more definite conclusion as to its condit ion but
that there is more activity at this moment than W.
observable a fortnight ago there can be no doubt
whatever.
This was factors and merchants' quarter-day. It
was stated that accounts had be en punctually paid,
and that the manufacturing trades are improving.

ot the people to •suffer from the abolition of this rate, and
that she could suffer only from some demerits on the part
of her ministers. (Hear, hear.) In conclusion, ho agreed
with these who thought the abolition of what was consi-
dered an injustice, even by some members of the Church
itself, would be the means of strengthening that Church.
(Cheers.)
Mr. DISRAELI, having commented on the alteration
that had taken place in the opinions of the noble lord
(Lord Palmerston), contended that before. any change was
made in the present system the Government should be pre-
pared with a substitute for the impost which they proposed
to abolish.