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a large number of them. On. that occasion they discussed the
subject with him, with that. 'frankness and absence of all re-
serve which characterized their profession. Indeed, it was
impossible for him to do justice to the manliness with which
they declared their perfect readiness to serve his Majesty un-
der even a system of compulsion, should the exigencies of the
country require it, provided only that their service was limited
in duration, and accompanied by such regulations as would
prevent abuses. He would not now enter into the details of
this measure ; but besides expressing his satisfaction at it, he
begged to say that he should have the greatest pleasure in
personally giving his hatmble aid to its passage through the
Committee.
Mr. BUCKINGHAM rose to express his extreme delight
at the details entered into by the Right Hon. Baronet. The
Bill would be found, he hoped, to contain some provisions for
making the registration efficient ; for if the men were left to
register themselves or not, as they pleased, he was convinced,
from the attention he had given the subject, they would not
register themselves. One of the provisions for that purpose
must be a strong declaration that impressment will not be re-
sorted to, except in case of invasion or some such pressing ne-
cessity as would be a necessity upon the face of it. Without a de-
claration of that nature, the seaman would consider registration
as intended only to enable the Government to lay hands upon
them, and the register as a trap. Supposing such a declara-
tion to be made, a means occurred to him by which the regis-
ter might be rendered complete. It was to make it compul-
sory on the part of the commanders of merchant vessels to
shin no seaman who did not produce a certificate of his re-
gistry. The necessity of getting employment would thus
compel the men to register themselves, which they might not
take the trouble to do if the matter was left optional. The
Right Hon. Baronet, in prefacing that part of his observations
with respect to impressment, thought it necessary to demand
a recognition of the King's prerogative and right to impress
seamen in time of need. Now, on the last occasion that this
subject was before the House, he had had his motives ques-
tioned for admitting the right and prerozetive of the King to
impress seamen in time of need ; but he would ask whether
any man could deny that the King was entitled to the services
of every individual in the nation, either by land or sea, and
he who would shrink from the responsibility of rendering
service iti time of need would be less than a man. And he
would say this for the seamen of this country, with whom he
had passed all his life, that if there was any .class of his Ma-
jesty's subjects who would feel insulted at the supposition
that they shrank from their duty when danger called them
forward, it was the mercantile marine. Only show them
a fair and reasonable cause for being called upon, and they
would not hesitate to conic forward under any system, call it
what you would. But impressment would lose half its sting if
accompanied by a conditicn limiting the period of the
seaman's service, and if bounties were given in double propor-
tions to these who entered the navy voluntarily, and single
bounties only to those who entered it coercively. He would
not enter further into the Right Hon. Baronet's measures
now, as better opportunities of doing so would occur hereafter,
but if the Right Hon. Baronet succeeded in carrying his Bills,
as, if he had the sanction of the Government, there was little
doubt of his doing, the sailors would hold a jubilee upon their
emancipation.—( Cheers.
Mr. ALEXANDER BARING begged to express his
obligations to the Right Hon. Barone:: for bringing under the
consideration of the House a subject to which he had devoted
so much attention—( Hear) ; and no member could have
brought it forward who had more, not only of the confidence
of the Hou.se, but of the Government. He (Mr. A. Baring)
should carefully look at the provisions of these Bills with a
view to attain this object. No man who was old enough to
recollect the history of the last war bet must be aware that it
was quite impossible this country could contemplate the possi-
bility of any naval war being entered into with the same mode
of manning the navy.—( Hear, hear.) Not only would the
abhorrence the public had of impressment prevent it,
but the old system could not be prsevered in without the
certainty of the first gun that was fired involving us in a
war with that country with which, of all others, it was most
desirable we should remain at peace, he meant the United
States.—( Hear, hear, hear.) The similarity in the lan-
guage, habits, and characters of the sailors of those States
and of the British Islands, would render such a result in-
evitable. No man who recollected the scenes which took
place during the last war could expect that a nation pretend-
ing to independence, that a nation with any character at stake,
should submit to the proceeding's which, under the old system,
we found indispensable towards the close o the last war.—
(Hear, hear.) This was no speculative question, but one
which it was imperative on the country to look in the face.
Of the many benefits which the country was indebted to his
Right Hon. Friend, for his exertions in administering the de-
partments placed under his care, none would surpass what
would be owing to him for producing a Bill on this important
subject, acceptable to all parties. The whole of the details of
these Bills would have to be carefully considered by the seve-
ral departments interested in them, but more especially by the
Admiralty, and that with which he had the honour to be con-
nected. They would have to see that no unnecessary restric-
tions were placed upon the. parties to be affected by the Bills ;
but lie was sure that the maritime service of the country would
see that some restrictions were necessary, and would cheer-
fully submit to them in order to avoid the greater evil which
would otherwise fall upon them ; and to secure that which the
feelings of every man in this country must be desirous of se-
curing—namely, the proud naval supremacy we have always
hitherto maintained.
Captain BERKELEY rejoiced that there was so good a
prospect of naval officers being freed from one of their most
unpleasant duties.
Captain GORDON should be willing to agree to the first
Bill of the Right Hon. Baronet, but must postpone his assent
to the second till he saw its details.
Mr. AARON CHAPMAN thought the Right Hon.
Baronet had taken the right course to encourage instead of
coercing the merchant service.
Mr. Alderman THOMPSON could never agree to take one
Bill without the other. He had heard'with peculiar satisfaction
the statement of the Right Hon. the President of the Board
of Trade, as he augured from it that the Right Hon. Baronet
had obtained the sanction and support of his Majesty's Govern-
ment for his measures.
Admiral ADAM thought that impressment in time of need
might be found necessary to resist a foreign foe, but he should
be glad if measures could be taken that would in most cases
do away with the necessity of having recourse to it, for he
knew it to be a true adage, that " one volunteor was worth
two pressed men"—( Hear, hear.)
Sir P. DURHAM could not agree that a volunteer was to
be preferred to a pressed man.—( A laugh.) It was only by
impressment that hardy sailors could be obtained at the close
of the last war, and after being on ship-board twenty-four
hours, they worked as willingly as a volunteer.—(Laughter. )
He was, however, anxious to get rid of the impressment—
(Laughter)--if it could be done in the mode proposed by the
Right Hon. Baronet.
Mr. O'DWYER was understood to deny the right of the
Crown to impress seamen—except upon emergencies—which
authorized the Sovereign to call out every male in the country.
Sir M. WHITE RIDLE Y confirmed the account given
by the Hon. Member for Tynemouth as to the state of feeling
amongst the sailors.
Mr. D. BARCL A Y expressed himself much obliged to the
Right Hon. Baronet in bringing forward measures so bene-
ficial.

Mr. INGHAM thanked the Right Hon. Baronet for the
steps he had taken to render the King's service popular, and
assured him that they had produced such an effect upon the
minds of the seamen as would cause them to receive with con-
fidence any measure from his hands.
Leave was then given, and Mr. LABOUCHERE, Sir P. DUR-
HAM, and Sir J. GRAHAM, were ordered to bring in the two
Bills.

PUBLIC INCOME.
On the motion of Mr. GILLON, account ordered of the
Public Income and Expenditure for the years ended sth Ja-
nuary 1834, and 1835 ; being the continuation of a Return,
No. 374, Session 1833.
TITHE OF FISH

On the motion of Mr. GILL ON, Address agreed to for a
Return of the parishes in Scotland in which Fish Tithe is paid,
Co amount of such Fish Tithe, or of the Rent or Composition
received in lieu of it by the Clergyman, for the years ended
1831, 1832, 1833 ; as also of the stipend or other income of the
clergymen of such parishes where Fish Tithe is paid, and of the
value of their manses and glebes during the same period.
PUBLIC WORKS (IRELAND).

•
Mr: LYNCH moved for a Committee to consider whether,
for the better employment of the labouring poor in Ireland, the
powers of the Commissioners of the present Board of Public
Works in that country ought not to be enlarged—The follow-
ing Committee was then appointed :
Lynch, A. H. Perceval, Colonel
Peel, Sir It O'Connor, F
Hardinge, Sir H. O'Brien, W. Smith
Rice, T. S. Loch, James
Parnell, Sir H. Scrope, G. P.
Fremantle, Sir T. O'Connor Don
O'Connell, I). Lefroy, A.
Musgrave, Sir A. Grattan, J.
Wyse, T. Clive, Robert
O'Connell, M. J. Clements, Lord
Conelly, E. M. Coote, Sir C.
DANISH CLAIM

Chapman, M. L.
Bruen, Colonel
Gladstone, T.
Kerry, Earl of
Bateson, Sir It.
Bodkin, John James
Blake, M. J.
Fitzsimcn, C.
Castlereagh, Visct.
Roche, W.
Shell, R. L.

Admiral ADAM begged to ask, whether any report was
expected to be made from the Commissioners to whom the
claims of British subjects upon Denmark had been referred,
and whether that report, when made, would include the claims
for book debts, for goods confiscated, and for shipping?
Sir T. FREMANTLE replied, that the report of the Com-
missioners was very nearly prepared, and would shortly be laid
before the Honse. He was enabled to state, that the Commis-
sioners would report upon the three distinct heads of the book
debts, the confiscated goods, and shipping.—( Hear, hear.)
On the motion of Mr. BROTHERTON the House ad-
journed at twelve o'clock.

IRELAND AND THE IRISH.—We observe with
pleasure the progress of the publication of a new and cheaper
edition of Sir Jonah Barrington's very interesting and import-
ant " Memoirs of Ireland," the third part of Which, with all the
original portraits, &c., has just appeared. When the extraor-
dinary capabilities, the resources, and the powers of, Ireland,
are fully known, an interest must arise in every breast which
reflects on her misfortunes. It is time that the curtain which
has been so long interposed should be drawn aside, and a just
judgment he formed of the policy or impolicy of those measures
which have been adopted towards her.
A shocking murder was committed in the neigh-
bourhood of Penrith, on Sunday. Two men are in custody
for the offence.

Mr. Webb, of the Park, near Ross, on Tuesday
last, sold in Ledbury market to Mr. James Barrett, jun., a load
of wheat, at 14s. the bag ; exactly 26 years ago, he sold in the
same market to Mr. James Barret, sen., a load of wheat at
2Ss. the bushel ; so that he has now sold a bag of wheat at the
same price he then received for half a bushel. —Hereford Timcs.