The Sun.
London, England, 1832-04-06 00:00:00

SECOND EDITION.

SUN OFFICE, Seven o'Clock.

IMPERIA LPA LIAMEM

THIS EVENING.

HOUSE OF LORDS.

The Duke of WELLINGTON presented a petition
from Derbyshire against the new system of education in
Ireland.

Mr. DIXON and others from the Commons brorteht up
the Dartmouth Pier Bill, the Large Harbour Bill, and
another private Bill.

The Scotch Cholera Bill waa read a third time ami
passed.

The Consolidated Fund Bill and the Meeting Bill went
through a Committee, an 4 were reported without amend-
ments.

The Earl of ABERDEEN had some petition to pre-
sent against the Malt Drawba, k Which stood for
Committee this night. He had great doubts whether
ihat Bill would not be most prejudicial to the interest of
Scotland aad the revenue.—(Hear, hear, hoar.) Be-
fore the introducton of this syttcm, the st tte of
many parts of Scotland was most deplorable. Numerous
parties of his Majesty's troops were distributed throughout
:bat country, which was generally one of the most
peaceable, yet the traders, in the illicit distillation of spi-
rit., often had the temerity to attack the troops, and the
question had led to a general relaxation of the morals in
that country. The Noble Earl then presented petitions
frotn the landholders and magistrates of the counties of
Aberdeen and Kincardine.

Lord AUCKLAND mid %Le object of the Bill was to
prevent frauds in that trade; hut Ilse proper time for the
discussion of the question was, when the Bill ware.
gularly before the House. (Hear, bear, The Bill
then went into Committee, and was revorted.
Lord DTLAMEEE presented &petition from the county
of Chester against the Reform Bill.
_ _

The Marquis of LONDONDERRY presentH petition
from an individual -against Reform.

The Marquis of BRISTOL presented a petition fiom
Ipswich against the new system of ~?titication in Ireland,

COUNTY OF WEST3IEATH,
The Marquis of WESTMEATH, in rising to make
motion of which he had given notice, was desirous to
assure the House, that he felt no hostility to the
Noble Marquis at the head of the Irish Government, He
would now disclaim having any such disposition against the
Noble Earl opposite (Earl Grey) or those who supported
ported him, to many of whom he was indebted for
the seat which he had the honour of holding
in that House. He felt, however, that a crisis ;n -pubic
affa rs had arrived, which entitled every mail to think
for himself.-- Hear, hear.) He geve every man lati-
tude to speak his sentiments et such a conjuncture;
he trusted that the Noble Earl would allow the same privi-
leges to him. He felt considerably embarrassed in bring-
ing the subject before the House, but such was the state of
Ireland, that he could not pass over his motion. It was
not out of the minds of their Lordships that in conse-
iinence of a petition the state of the county of 'Westmeath
was such as to reqeire the magistrates to meet, in order
to consider the best course to adopt for the preservation of
the public peace, and the security of the lives and property
of the inhabitant.. He hart no hesitation to confess that
he was one of those Who had convened the meet
ing, and every magistrete, as well as every gen-
tleman, who intended to take nut a commission of the
pearl- had attended the meeting. He had heard the
Nul le Lord diodare that he thought it hie duty to apply
to Yarnaruent for further powers. Hiving heard that
declaration t-f the Noble Earl, he thought he was acting
for the best in bringing the question before the con-
sideration of the House.—( Hear.) 'This he had con-
sidered the course the most prudent, discreet, and in every
respect the most likely to restore public tranquillity. He
hart hoped that when affairs bad come to a certain state,
or at least when they were aggravated by the opposition to
tithes, Government would have been prepared to act,
as if the state of society in that country had been
overturned. He had set forth facts to Government of a
eature to induce them to act in the manner be had anti-
cipated. With reference to society in Weemrath, he would
beg leave to state a few things which occurred in the coun-
try. About four months ago an honest, innocent man had
entered a public house, where, in the course of conversa-
tion, he had accidently said, the sate of feeling among the
lower classes was such, that every man stood in his neigh-
bour's way, and it was a pity for their own sakes this; they
should go on so.—(Hear.) In less than ten minute+, the
man was way-lain and murdered. The murderers were
well known, several of them were brought forward at the
Assize, and not a particle of evidence appeared against
them—and what did the House think—why, they were
acquitted.—.(Hear, hear, and a laud laugh,) It was
no longer safe for any honest man who prosecuted
a faction to live in the country, Persons would give
their information before a Magistrate, but they could
taut be induced to come forward and substantiate their evi-
dence in a Court of Law. Three months ago he hed had
a sm .11 property in Ireland, and a party of insurgents paid
a visit to a man who collected tythes for his agent. What
did these men do on the occasion of that visit? Why,
they they took ail his money and burnt all his books.
He (Lord Westmeath, took no notice of this. But
about five months since he found a notice stuck
up, declaring that the people should pay no more
tithes to him till the Reform Bill was passed.
He had sent an individurl to know from each
party whas was the state of their account of tithe', but
not one single individual would produce his last receipt.
--(Hear.) What wauld any Member of that House say
if told tt at his property was to be kept in pledge for
his vote in the Legislature. Fifty Magistrates of West-
meath bad complained of the misrepresentations re-
specting the petition to which he had alluded,
and trey particularly complained about quartering
the dead cow into several haves, and giv-
ing them to their tenants. He believed the Magistrates of
-'Westmeath were as respectable as any in Ireland, and if
paced them in a ridiculous light, to be tr• ated, as thei
had been, by Government. Shortly after this calumny
of quartering a dead cow in mane halves, there appears
an article in the press, stating that the Magis-
trates of the county were thirsting for the blood of
the people. He wished Noble Lords to reflect on the
effect which such a statement as this would have on the
people of that country. The observation went among the
people, and he knew it was fact that ha should be held
forth as thirsting for the blood of any person.
The Noble Marquis then read extracts from the speech of
Mr. O'Connell, delivered at Clonmell, several parts of
which created considerable laughter in the House. This,
continued the Noble Marquis, was the man who had au•
dressed tionselt to the grease and sweat of Brom ighan and
cane to the Political Union, .eating how admirably calculated
Englishmen and Irishmen were to be united together, and
that all the disputes had hitherto arisen from misgovernment
The argument he drew from the reading of that was,
whether the Government, who had suffered things
like these to go on up to the last moat en t, or
the Irish Magistrates were to be charged with indifference.
The Noble Marquis then read part of the reply 01
the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland to Ire address of the
Magistrates of the county of Westmeath, which he charac-
terized as a complete farce, and a shilly-shally way of get-
ting rid of the subject. He deprecated his Majesty's
Government pursuing such a course, and observed that it
was true there was an Administration existing in the
country, taut where the Governinene. was he could
not discover.—(Laughter.) Noble Lords might laugh
if they pleased, but lie, as a Magistrate, would not be
detarred from doing his duty, and from stating
his conscientious opinions on this subject. He was the
last man who would wish harsh measures to be exercised
towards his fellow-subjects in Ireland. His wish was to
Be, measures of amelioration and coercion going

hand in hand ; but if his Majesty's Govern-
ment would not take a subject of so much importance
into their most serious consideration. He thought it tvd,.
the duty of the Magistrates of Ireland to exert themselves
on the subject. The Noble Marquis concluded by moving
that an humbho address be presented to his Majesty,
praying that his 'Majesty would be pleased to order
a copy of the address to the Lord Lieutenant of
Ireland from the Magistrates of Westmeath and his Excel-
lencies reply thereto, to be laid upon their Lordships'
table.

I.;rd PLUNKETT considered that there was no
ground for making any opposition to the motion. It was,
however, a very unusual one, and extremely unnecessary
unless the Noble Ale.-quis meant to ground some other
motion upon it. He thought the House would
feel perfectly satisfied, if he were to leave the
vindication of the conduct of the Noble Lord at
the h ad of affairs in Ireland, and the peliey of
Government upon the statements made by the Noble Mar-
quis himself. The answer of ti.e Lord Ltutenont appealed
to idiu to have very prop rly at,ted the principles and polio)
on which the Gi.vei unient acred. He (Laid Runkett,
would mat ioilow the Not) e Marquis through the eatensiv
topics which he had adverted to. He expected that his at-
tention would have been called to the addreses of the inhabi-
tants and Magistrates of the county of Westmeath, and the
answer of the Lord Lieutenant thereto ; instead of that, the