The Sun.
London, England, 1835-04-03 00:00:00

SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS

We have not room to-day for any detailed notice of the debate last
night. The resolution of Lord John Russell, it will be seen, v.-as carried
by a majority of 33—the numbers being 322 nod 289. Ane one who
will take the trouble to refer to the debate will see with what danger the
country is threatened. It is admitted that the funds of the Irish
Church are to be reduced at present; that they arc to be further re-
duced, if the number of Protestants de.:reasas : that they arc to Ir aug.
mented, if the number of Protestants receives addition. This, as Sir R.
Peel truly observed, adds to religious dissensions the temptation of pe-
cuniary interest, and gives to the Catholics, who, it is boasted, are the
overwhelming majority, a stronger interest in getting rid of the Proteitant
population. Without attempting to raise the d: precated cry of
" No Popery," we must be permitted to ask whether this may not
be considered in Ireland as a premium upon the extirpation of
Protestantism ? Mr. O'Connell plainly declared that he valued
the resolution only as a sort of proclamation to the people of Ireland
that they were to be governed upon a new system, and added his con-
viction, that if education were made general, and if the Protestants were
enlightened, they would become converts to Catholicism,—they would
"return to the folds from which they had strayed." We need hardly
refer our readers to the speech of Sir R. Peel. We are as sure that
every man in the kingdom will bestow on it a careful perusal, as we are
certain that whatever temporary triumph the right hon. gentle Man's op-
ponents may achieve, the country will ultimately decide in his favour.
The course to be pursued in this matter appears from the de-
bate to stand at present thus—Sir R. Peel has delared his in-
tention of opposing Lord John Russell in every stage—in com-
mittee—on the question of communicating the resolution to

the Crown—on every subsequent proceeding in regard to this re-
solution. The question that the Speaker do leave the Chair was
carried last night, and to-night Lord John Russell is to bring forward
his resolution in committee. Sir R. Peel announced that if the Opposi-
tion should obstruct the Irish Tithe Bill he is about to introduce, he
could no', consistently with his sense of duty, remain in office. Lord
John Russell will not conse:►t to any Tithe Bill passing without his re-
solution being first carriel into effe..l. With that resolution Sir R.

Peel says not only that he will have nothing to do, but that he will op-
pose it to the utmost. We shall soo:i, therefore, see, if Lord John Rus-
sell perseveres, the return of the " Incapablcs " to power,4reinforced by
an accession of the " Destructives," and then God he:p them and the
country Times.

Notwithstanding the irreligious and revolutionary principle involved
In Lord John Russell's motion for the spoliation of the Protestant
Church in Ireland, and the able exposures of its consequences and ten-
dency which were given during four days of earnest and animated clic.%
cussion, that principle was last night affirmed by a majority of the
House of Commons, as will be seen on reference to the report. From
the lateness of the hour at which our report of the proceedings was com-
pleted we can only refer generally to the able, argumentative, and unan.
swerable address of Sir Robert Peel. Of this speech we may justly
say (and no higher praise can be given), that it was in all respects worthy
of the exalted reputation of the accomplished orator and statesman
from whom it proceeded, and not incommensurate with the deep and
awful importance of the occasion which called it forth. The Premier
did not rise to address the House until late in the debate, a circumstance
not to be regretted (fur who could have spoken after him ?) further than
as it may, we fear, have the effect of rendering the reports of his in-
comparable address, which are now in the hands of the public, less per.
feet than they might otherwise have been. It is an oration which is
destined to command the gratitude and admiration not of the present
age only, but of the most remote posterity, and it is fit that a gem which
is to decorate and enrich the annals of Great Britain so long as British
civilization and British literature shall endure, should be preserved
in all, its perfection and purity. We hope that a more com-
plete and authentic record of this splendid oration will im-
mediately be given to the world than we or our fellow.labourers of the
daily press can have preserved. This is due to history and to letters. But
we advance a claim which will perhaps have still greater weight with a
practical statesman like Sir Robert Pee', when we say that the most im-
portant interests of the living generation demand so much sacrifice of
his valuable time and attention as may be necessary for this purpose.
The nation is already beginning to move forward to the rescue of the
Altar and the Throne from the daring and impious band who hang with
insulting menace over both. To fan the zeal and invigorate the efforts
of the people in the sacred cause of the Church and the monarchy
such a speech as that of Sir Robert Peel is all that can be required.—
Morning Post.
We congratulate the country on the glorious result of the four days'
debate. The motion has been carried by a majority of 33. The
numbers were, 322 to 289. After this unequivocal manifestation of the
opinion of the Representatives of the nation, it would be the height of
madness in Sir Robert Peel to hesitate any longer as to the course he
ought to pursue. The country ought no longer to be trifled with,
merely that he may show how long lie can set the House at defiance.
The vote of last night tells him, in language not to be misunderstood, that
he cannot conduct the. Government of the country with advantage. Mr.
Pitt, in 1784, might brave a majority of the Commons, because he could
fall back on the nation; but Sir R. Peel is still more unpopular with the
nation than the House of Commons. He has slaked his all on the
issue of an attempt to preserve the Sinecure Church of Ireland untouched,
and lee has lost. The question comes again before the House this day,
on taking the report of the resolution into consideration, and for the
sake of the character of the Right Hon. Baronet, we trust he will seize
the occasion to announce his resignation. This deference to so decided
an opinion of the House of Commons might be accepted as some slight
atonement for the insult he has offered to the nation, by taking office to
defeat its just expectations. It would be ridiculous to deny Sir Robert
Peel the possession of good abilities, and that his speech last night was
characterized by great dexterity. But the vote sufficiently shows that
all his ingenuity is thrown away—that his exertions to gain for the To-
ries their old ascendancy are lost labour. Indeed, neither the people nor
the real representatives of the people, even for one moment, were de.
ceived by the professions of the Right Hon. Baronet. 'They knew that
however skilfully he might act the character of a Reformer, he was still
only acting. The hole.and.corner address to Sir Robert, concocted in
the London Tavern, to which we alluded on Monday last, will be of
slight avail to him in his difficulties, though there can be no doubt that
great things were anticipated from its appearance at'a critical emergency.
" What purpose beneficial to the nation (say these pretended Represen-
tatives of the Merchants, Bankers, Traders, and others, of London) can
be answered by removing from the head of the Government a Minister
who has shown himself to be distinguished by the possession of every
quality that can fit him for that station, we are unable to discern." If
these Merchants, Bankers, and Traders were in the secrets of the
Court, they would have little difficulty in ascertaining that it was
not for purposes beneficial to the nation that Sir Robert Peel
was placed at the head of affairs. He is without the ore quality
which alone can recommend a Minister to the people—he is without po-
litical honesty. He tither deceives the Tories or he deceives the nation.
Perhaps he deceives both,—it is certain that he cannot satisfy both; and
the people had their suspicions, which have been justified by the stand he
le:s made in behalf of the abuses of the Sinecure Church of Ireland, that
he would be obliged to sacrifice their interests to those of his Tory sup-
porters. Sir Robert, towards the close of a speech in which he exhibited
all the doublings of a coursed hare, and appealed to whatever could possi-
bly influence a mixed body of upwards of 600 individuals, affected to be
frank in stating the course he should adopt :
" I give you notice (said the Right Hon. Baronet) that I intend to
object to the Resolution in Committee, and I intend to object to the
communication of that Resolution ;to his Majesty. But if you signify
your intention to obstruct the progress of that measure, the principle of
which I have propounded, and to which principle I must adhere; then
I do say that such is the necessity that exists for the settlement of that
question—l mean the '1 ithe Question in Ireland—without farther de-
lay, that if you mean to insist that that question is to be settled upon
your own principles, I confess that I cannot conform to it. If you de.
clare that you will not consent to the principle which I have laid down,
then I shall consider that declaration as such an indication of the feel-
ing of this House, as, with my sense of duty, will render it impossible
for me to remain in that situation which I have now the honour to fill."
There cannot be a doubt as to the course which the Opposition will
pursue with regard to the measure alluded to. They have declared that
the Tithe Bill, without an accompanying measure of appropriation,
would only irritate the people of Ireland, and, therefore, they must
couple the appropriation with tire commutation of tithes. Neither,
aiter the majority which they have obtained last night, or rather this
morning, can there be any doubt that they have the power to give effect
to their intentions. We are, however, inclined to think that a little
cool reflection will induce Sir Robert Peel to terminate at once this un-
availing warfare. He admits that the course of his Government is di-
rected by his opponents. It is high time that he should abandon a situa-
tion which he cannot fill either creditably to himself, or usefully to
the nation. What, in God's name, is to be gained by merely
showing that, under the direction of his political opponents,
he can retain office till they so modify the Tithe Bill that he
must perforce resign. Let the Right Honourable Baronet have
some consideration for the country which he holds in suspense.
Something is surely due to its peace awl tranquillity. He ought never
to have exposed it to the unnecessary agitation which has prevailed du-
ring his whole Administration—but to continue it by holding out, with-
out a shadow of hope, is a piece of factious pertinacity, ridiculous as being
unavailing, were it not criminal as regards the nation. At this late hour
we can only further remind the Members of the House of Commons, of
the declaration of Sir Robert Peel, that he is to fight the resolution at
every stage, and to lie in wait for every advantage. We must, there-
fore, warn them that they ought not to leave town, or absent them-
selves, without at least pairing, and to make no pairs without ascer-
taining that they are good men, as we are sorry to say some of the To-
ries have of late been found out in rather dishonourable doings in this
way. Let us not allow the fruits of the victory of the people to be lost
through any negligence.—Morning Chronicle.

SHIPPING.-(THIS DAY.

FROM LLOYDS.

DEAL, APRIL 2.—Wind S S.W.—Arrived the Ilythe, --......, and
Alexander Baring, St. Croix, from China; and Augustine, Carr,
from the Mauritius. Arrived from the River, the Mentor, Barlow, for
Quebec; Brilliant, Flegg, f,,r ditto; George Cruickshank, Young, for
St. Vincent's; Janet, —, for Jamaica; Romanolf, Thompson, for
Miramichi; Taglioferro, Ruggin, for Malta; Isabella Grove, Good_
child, for Nova Scotia ; Richmond Hill, Forrest, for Berbice, and remain
with several outward bound.
Porasmourtr, APRIL S.E., light breezes.—Arrivcd the
Challenger, Newman, from Lisbon.

PLYMOUTH, APRIL I.—Wind S.S.E.—Arrived the Anagabia, Pidgeon,
from Odessa; and Reform, Leader, from Figueira.
FALmotrrii, APRIL 1.-Wind S. S.E. to S.S. W., moderate.—Arrived
the Mary, Constance, from Corfu; and Albion, James, from Zante. Off
port, the President, De Ruytre, from Jacmel ; Joanna, Rowland, from
Patras ; and Concord, from Palermo.
SCILLY, MARcsl 31.—Arrived off po►t, the Lady Clinton, Swandell,
from Cadiz.

LIVERPOOL, APRIL L—Arrived the Jamaica, Johnston, from Jamaica;
Colonel Dalhousie, -, from Mobile ; Parsee, frcm Charles.
ton; Mary, Bale, from Smyrna; and4'aguJ, Wade, from Lisbon. 0(1'
port, the Laura, --, from Demerara; Alexander, -, from
Charleston; Samuel, -, from Savannah ; and Fanny, Cormell, from
Lisbon.

DUBLIN, MARCH 31.—Arrived the Dublin Lass, Silk, from London;
and Congress, Dickson, from Sierra Leone.

CORK, MAUCII 31.—Arrived the Ellen, Sabiston, from Sierra Leone.
BELFAST, MARCH 31.—Arrived off port, the Harriett, Gall, from
Mobile. •

Arab, Loub2rlick, from Hamburg, put into Plymouth, leaky, bound to
Bahia.

1835..—The following is the House List of Go-
vernors and Directors of the Bank of England for the year
ensuing, viz.:—

FOR GOVERNORS.
James Pattison, Esq., Governor.
Timothy Abraham Curtis, Esq., Deputy Governor.
FOR DIRECTORS.
John Bowden, Esq. George Warde Norman, Esq.
John Cockerell, Esq. John Horseley Palmer, Esq.
William Cotton, Esq Christopher Pearse, Esq,
Henry Davidson, Esq. Henry James Prescott, Esq.
Samuel Drew•e, Esq. Charles Pole, Esq.
Bonamy Dobree, Esq. Henry Porcher, Esq.
Thomson Hankey, jun., Esq. William R. Robinson, Esq.
John Oliver Hanson, Esq. Samuel Thornton, Esq.
John Benjamin Heath, Esq. William Ward, Esq.
William Mellish, Esq. Thomas Warre, Esq.
Humphrey St. John Mildrnay, Esq. Money Wigram, Esq.
James Morris, Esq. Melva Wilson, Esq.
The election for Governor and Deputy Governor will be
held at the Bank on Tuesday, the 7th, and for Directors on
Wednesday, the Bth of April instant, from ten o'clock in the
forenoon till four in the afternoon.