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London, England, 1835-05-20 00:00:00

SPIRIT LICENSES.

Mr. DIVETT rose to move for a Committee of the whole
House, to take into consideration the Act of the last session
for increasing the duties on spirit licenses ; but, before doing
so, he presented several petitions from licensed victuallers in
various places, praying that the additional duties should be
taken off. Lord A lthorp, in bringing forward the measure for
increasing the duties, induced the House to believe that the
tax could be raised to the extent of 160,0001. without incon-
venience, and that, besides this, it would have a tendency to
check immorality. He (Mr. Divett) felt convinced that his
Lordship was mistaken in his view, for the tax, so far from in-
creasing, would rather have the effect of diminishing the re-
venue, whilst at the same time it held out a temptation to
smuggling, and consequently to immorality. There were
many houses where beer and cider were at present sold without
being liable to any duty, and in such houses a consumption of
spirits would take place without the payment of any duty, or at
all events with only the payment of the licence for selling
beer. It was wrong to encourage such houses as those, where
there was no responsibility for the good conduct of the pro-
prietors. He concluded by moving that the House should go
into a Committee, to consider the operation of the Acts 4 and
5 William IV., cap. 75, and the 6 George IV., cap. 81.
Lord SAND ON was not so much opposed to the increased
duties in the spirit licenses as to the unequal manner in which
the Act operated, and suggested that the duties should be le-
vied in proportion to the consumption. It had been objected
that such a levy would be impossible, but he had inquired of
persons in the trade, and it appeared that, from the frequency
of taking stock, there would be found no difficulty.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was of
opinion that the sum of 150,000/. derived from the tax could
not, in the present state of the finances, be dispensed with ;
but there were many subjects in the statements made by his
Hon. Friend beside him and the Noble Lord opposite which
were entitled to consideration. He (the Chancellor of the
Exchequer) could assure the Hon. Member that he had every
desire to consider this question, as well as all others of a like
nature, with a view to affording all the relief in his power ;
but it was his duty to consider all claims against the pressure
of taxation at one view, and with reference to their relative
importance. Nothing could be so ill-advised, in his opinion,
as to make an incomplete statement of financial views, and to
give rise to expectations which afterwards could not fairly be
realised. He, therefore, would beg the Hon. Gentleman to
leave the subject for the present in his (the Chancellar of the
Exchequer's) hands, until he should be prepared to come for-
ward with his financial statements for the ensuing year. The
proposal of the Noble Lord opposite to regulate the amount of
duty by the quantity of spirits consumed, would be attended
by many difficulties, and a more rigorous observance of excise
regulations, which would in the end give rise to other com-
plaints, perhaps, of a more serious kind. With respect,
however, to any hope which he bad to hold out of relief from
taxation, he would candidly say that, looking at the present
state of the revenue, he could only devote himself to the en-
deavour of attaining a more equal distribution of the amount
of taxation. With a surplus of 200,0001., he certainly could
not afford to give up the amount of 150,000/. complained of in
the present case. This tax was a necessary consequence of
the repeal of the house tax, which could not have been granted
without some sliglt equivalent of the kind. Lord Althorp's
estimation of the result of this tax had proved to have been a
very correct one. The Noble Lord estimated a receipt of
167,0001. from this item, and the actual receipts had been
163,000/.2 only 4,000/. below the estimate. With respect to
its effect upon the number of licenses taken out, he believed
that though there had been a diminution in the number of
smaller houses, there had been rather an increase in the large.
In conclusion, therefore, he would again beg his Hon. Friend
not to press his motion on the present occasion, but to leave it
in his (the Chancellor of the Exchequer's) hands.
Mr. HUME thought that the parties engaged in the spirit
trade had a peculiar claim to redress of the inordinate burdens
in,ith which they were visited.
Mr. PR YM E was glad that his Right Hon. Friend the
Chancellor of the Exchequer had determined to take up this
subject, with a view to affording the relief which was required.
Mr. BARCLAY said a few words to the same effect.
Sir G. ST RICK[. AND said that the present system of
duties had not reduced the practice of dram-drinking, whilst
it undoubtedly acted as a most unfair house-tax.
Mr. ROBINSON hoped the duties now complained of
would be altered.
Mr. CARRUTHERS had been at first inclined to give his
voice in support of the present motion, but, after the state-
ment made by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, he did not
think any immediate necessity existed for the House going into
Committee on the subject.
After a few words from an Hox. MEMBER under the Gallery,
Mr. M. PHILLIPS spoke in favour of the motion, and
complained of the inequality in the application of these duties.
Colonel SIBTHORP said that, notwithstanding all the
promises of the present Ministry, not a single act had been
done to afford relief to the poor and labouring classes. They
were taxed higher for their spirits and beer, than their rich
neighbours for their claret and champagne.
After a few words from Mr. HODGES and Mr. KELLY—
Mr. DIVETT, in accordance with the desire expressed by
his Right Hon. Friend, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and
relying on the promiles he had made, was prepared, with the
permission of the House, to withdraw his motion.
Motion withdrawn accordingly.
Colonel SIBTHORP withdrew his motion respecting
Local Testamentary Courts.
LAW COURTS IN SCOTLAND.

Mr. WALL ACE moved for leave to bring in Bills to im-
prove the present practice in certain Law Courts in Scotland :
—l. That of the Courts of Session, Teinds, and Justiciary ;
also to regulate and define the duties of the Judges, and of the
clerks and other officers, and to abolish the fee fund, and other
dues of the said Courts.-2. To regulate the forms, shorten
the delays, and diminish the expense in the above Courts, and
in appeals to the House of Lords.-3. To explain, regulate,
and improve the practice and jurisdiction of the Sheriff and
Burgh Courts.-4. To amend the Small Debt Act, and en-
force the holding of Small Debt Circuit Courts by Sheriffs ;
also, to extend its provisions to the amount of 101., and to
abolish the arrestment of workmen's wages, and imprisonment
for debt for sums under 10/. The Hon. Member briefly stated
that these Bills would tend much to facilitate and extend the
distribution of justice in Scotland, and be a considerable advan-
tage to the litigant parties. He did not expect they would in-
terfere with the duties of the Lord Advocate, and he trusted
they would receive his support. The Hon. Member expressed
a further hope, that a Bill introduced by the Chancellor two
years ago on this subject would be re-introduced by the law
officers of the Crown.
Sir W. RAE was opposed to the present motion. It would
be better to wait for the full report of the Committee. The
law officers of the Crown had four Bills similar to the present
in preparation, and he thought it better to leave the matter in
their hands.
The LORD ADVOCATE intended to bring in four Bills
on the subject of the present motion, adopting the alterations
of his Hon. Friend ( Sir W. Roe) and he trusted Mr. Wallace
would not by these Bills throw any obstacle in his way.
Mr. C. FERGUS SON saw no objection to the introduc-
tion of the present Bills.
After a few words from Mr. Hume, and Colonel Leith Hay,
leave was given to bring in the Bills.
DIVISIONS OF THE HOUSE.

Mr. WARD rose to call the attention of the House to the
report of the Select Committee on Divisions. The Hon.
Member, as Chairman of the Committee, was anxious to put
the House in possession of the results of its deliberations.
They said they could not recommend any plan for taking the
divisions which would be free from objections. They received
many suggestions from various quarters, all of them very in-
genious, but not very practicable. But the most feasible plan
appeared to be to have two staircases leading to two galleries
or lobbies, the House to be cleared at once, and, on the return
of the Members, the doors to be thrown open simultaneously,
the tellers on each side calling out the names, and the clerks
taking them down. The expense attending this arrangement
would be about 1,500/. The Hon. Memer concluded by
moving, " That the plan suggested by the Division Committee
be adopted, and that a new lobby be built in the vacant space
behind the Speaker's Chair."
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER entirely
assented to the general principles of the Hon. Member's pro-
position, but felt doubt as to the practical application of the
remedy suggested under the peculiar circumstances in which
the House was placed.. The building in which they were as-
sembled, it should be recollected, was but a temporary one,

and any alteration might materially interfere with the intencit7
plans for the new building. What he would suggest was, that
the report of the Division Committee should be referred to
the General Building Committee, with instructions thaodder
visions should be made for its recommendations ; and, in d
to ensure proper attention to it, he would further reconartaaebe
that the name of the Hon. Member for St. Alban's shoulil
added to that Committee. He begged to be understood.,!!
desirous for the withdrawal of the present motion, and t!'°,
substitution of his suggestion, solely on the ground that ltf,
adoption might materially interfere with the proceedings ,e!
the Buildinc, Committee, and not from any objection toe
principle of giving publicity to the votes of the House.
individual Member and no Government need fear public
if they were bent on acting honestly by the trusts reP°s4
in them ; and, whether in the Government or out of it,
would be the last to oppose any measure introduced with that
view.—( Hear. )
Mr. WARBURTON begged to remind the Right 1-1°11"
Gentleman that the adoption of his suggestion would et:
delay of more than three years in the adoption of the reiliT
which the Committee suggested. For a few hundred perm's:.
and within a few weeks, such a lobby as the Committee re-
and
commene.ed could be erected, end it would appear front °_t
Robert Smirke's statement it might be thrown up
all interfering with any projected building.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCEEQUER Would a,
then suggest that the motion should be at pr esent withdrawt,.
and that at the next sitting of the Building- Committee
.°l_,°
report should be laid before them, with instructions that tbitella
should state to the House whether the proposiKl lobby ri° it
interfere with their plans ; and should they declare thee
would not, he should be most happy to give his .suPPert • ¢li;
motion for its erection the Hon. Member for St.. Alban'sWi'
then introduce.—( Hear, hear.) Right
Mr. WARD would adopt the latter suggestio at of the the
Hon. Gentleman, and would withdraw his motion until
to
Building Committee had an opportunity of e Lao:lining
report. atgi
After a few words from Mr. HUME, Mr. Aar:Jose,
Mr. R. COLBORNE, the motion was accordingly wi.th
CIVIL BILL COURTS (IRELAND)• god
without 3
Mr. LYNCH obtained leave to bring in a Bill'. to
_.ec Dill
the jurisdiction and regulate the proceedings of the.
Courts in Ireland.
CHANNEL ISLANDS.—TRADE IN CORN:ofs
Mr. P. THOMPSON rose to move the appointinell;wees
Committee on the present state of the trade in corn be"ct" of
the channel islands and the United Kingdom. Thoolli coin
his motion was to inquire into the nature of the trade with
between this country and the channel islands, for as 011,,r 'e jest
the view of ascertaining how far the complaints ia:niptro•
year, of a quantity of corn having been surreptitiousii_Jed
duced into this country from the channel islands, were Jorwci.
in fact, as for the purpose of general legislation on the $11.1900er;
On those complaints being originally made, the Comnlitre
of Customs sent over persons to institute an inquiry, all" et'
port was made by them, which showed that the average os
portation of corn from thence in a period of five Years #lO
little more than 2,000 qrs. The Right Hon. Gentletnal!ce
of
preceded him (Mr. P. Thompson) in office had. given 1015,
a Bill for regulating the exportation of corn from these bat
as well as the introduction of foreign corn Luta theilloot
circumstances had intervened which caused its postPoee tbef
It was natural for the inhabitants of these islando, whei,iletter'
saw attacked a privilege which they possessed by C- from
confirmed by Act of Parliament—the caeca cow
duty on foreign corn—to call for an inquiry into the' Agsplace
nected with the case, before any legislation shoui;id tthe°
on it ; and he considered that it was but strict ilia tice too in'
to accede to their wishes in that respect, and inst,itut,e, 001,4
vestigation into all the circumstances. This inCuirl„
form the labours of the Committee which he prayed
was the more anxious that the inquiry should be- 111;105°'
because he was firmly convinced that it would be tle, ni.;attbe
dispelling the most unfair and unfounded rumours d-sad°
Government and the islands, which had been so wida3iYbire
industriously circulated in connection with the ,s_afell
(Hear.) When it should be discovered that the a‘roreiowst
port of one island for a period of five years, was 1111;ejloar,
than 700 quarters, and of another 500 quarters, he aratil"
that all idea of fraud on the revenue or injury to the' ati Abe
turists would be obliterated from the mind of every, Islbiotbs/
entertained an opinion of his own. It was most desalt ftbai
an end should be put to the further existence of any id Iss;ltilil
nature. The Right Hon. Gentleman concluded by
the above motion. 011°
In reply to the question of an Honourable Member
unknown), goa,
Mr. P. THOMSON intimated that it was his. jetv" ja"'"
bring in a Bill for the regulation of the trade in COlll6O i
8°
channel islands after the Committee should have :111
reports. -races'
Dr. BOWRING expressed his satisfaction, and ere°
currence, with the principle of the motion. ta'
Mr. TYNTE expressed his concurrence in the nutt
his gratitude to the Right Hon. Mover. of
Mr. HE AT HCOT E, in reply to the observationsvgr
Hon. Member for the Kilmarnock district of Burghs/
to assure him that the agriculturists of ,the country we'ajt4n
fectly competent to take care of their own concerns; a• stelv"
when they wished to consult any one apart from thei / r
JO'
the Hon. Member would be the last they applied to for
Mr. PEASE approved of the motion. $r
The motion was then agreed to, and the Committee
pointed. F.,. m 1 Oa;
Mr. WAKLEY, in the absence of his How-
Hume, moved for a return of the names of the sever'''.s
ar opool/
of Barbadoes and Jamaica ; the date of their variou
ments; and the periods of their respective residences.
Ordered.
The House adjourned at Half-past Eleven o'clock.
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COURT OF INSOLVENT DEV—
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The Matters of the Petitions and Schedules of the L'Coort,:
hereinafter named (the same having been filed in torte;
are appointed to be heard at the Court-house, in 1-0,5.5,
street, Lincoln's Inn-fields, on Friday, May 22,
Nine o'clock in the Forenoon.
Blackburn, R., King-street, Finsbury-square, surgeon.
Bates, C., Daly-street, Liverpool, spinster. gracoestlit
Collett, H., High-street, Cheltenham, Glousesterslire,, je
Kirby, J., Vauxhall-bridge-road, Westminster, denier
Marshall, G., Melton ,Mowbray, Leicestershire, sloysenVot.
Pennistone, R., South-street, Sheffield, scissor-rwwww--
Rossiter, F., Nicholas-lane, Lombard-street, carpenter r-
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Salt, J.,New North-street, Red Lion-square, writer Or
Smith, A., Ulster-place, Regent's-park, servant.

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Esq., of Trinidad, of a daughter. of
On the 17th inst., at Parson's-green, Fulham,. the lady of s
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daughter. 4.. the
Pig
On the 16th inst., at the Rectory, Abington Stott' of,
the Rev. G. G. Graham Foster Pigott, of a son.
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daughter. 101°
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of a son.
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ter-house-square, of a son. .
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te:3o6
John Lee Hills, of a daughter. a 6°,1
On the Bth inst., the lady of Wm. Gibbs, Esq., the
Camberwell, of a daughter, which survived only till I''' ofs
day. ortigli'
On the 15th inst., at Southgate, Mrs. Henry no-
son, still-born.
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On the 18th inst., at Leamington, the Rev. Williart„ebtl„lo.
fourth son of Richard Warburton, Esq., of Garrrloo'
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Queen's County, to Emma Margaret, youngest dang-te
Lieut.-Generat Stovin. e„,, Pill., 01'
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voottlf of
Baldock, Esq., of Cowling Castle, Kent.
On the 30th ult., at the house of George Hantilten Si, ,_,,giter
Brittannic Majesty's Minister, John Andrew
eldestM'Petldr'
Logan, county of Wigtown, to Henrietta Gertrude, ii 4. job!
of the late Captain Chirles Montagu Walker, Royal clutsiod til"
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late Thomas Boyes, Esq. of Wellhall, Lanarkshire. of the BA
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mersmith, to Margaret, eldest daughter of William .11— Alic°
Bristol. to 01* to °Pe
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Dack, both of the same place. Their united ages '..- tbir
hundred and forty-eight years. et, boft
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daughter of the late Ker Seymer, Esq., to Willis° 00,
son of the late William Webber, Esq., of Binfield. Mott 0010
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third daughter of Deputy-Commissary-General Srulideot
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of Lord Charles Spencer Churchill.
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