The Sun.
London, England, 1835-03-05 00:00:00

ORANGE ADDRESSES.

Mr. FINN wished to repeat the question he yesterday asked
of the Secretary of State for the Home Department, whether
it was true that addresses coming from professed Orangemen
had been presented to his Majesty from different parts of Ire-
land, thanking him for the exercise of his prerogative in dis-
solving the late Parliament and dismissing his late Ministers ?
He asked the question in consequence of seeing a statement
that such addresses had been presented in the Court Circular.
Mr. GOULBURN said that he was not aware of the
accuracy of the facts of which the Honourable Gentleman
grounded his question. In all the addresses that had been
presented, the usual course had been pursued.
Mr. RONAYNE wished to ask the Right Hon. Gentle-
man whether he had not received addresses from professed
Orange Associations in Ireland, and whether he had not com-
municated to those Associations that their addresses had been
graciously received by his Majesty ?—( Cheers from the Irish
Members.)
Mr. Secretary GOULBURN said that he had fol-
lowed the rule that had been pursued by his predecessors,
which was, when persons presented addresses to his Ma-
jesty in becoming language, not to inquire into their
political tenets. Certain addresses had been presented
to his Majesty from persons professing to belong to Orange
Societies—(Great cheering from the Opposition side of the
House)—and others had been presented from persons, mem-
bers of Trades' Unions—( Cheers from the Ministerial side of
the House)—and to those addresses his Majesty had returned
such answers as he thought fit.
Mr. EW ART said that if the Dorchester labourers, who

were convicted at the Dorchester assizes, had sent a petition
to his Majesty, it was the duty of the Secretary of State to
present it, but the question was, whether the cases were
parallel ?—( Hear.)
Mr. STANLEY inquired whether it was customary to re-
turn answers of a complimentary nature to societies or bodies
which were considered to be illegal ?
Mr. Secretary GOUL B UR N replied that the usual course
had been pursued on this as on all other like occasions, but it
was not in his power to say what the specific words of the an-

slier were.
Lord MORPETH reminded the House that, on a recent
occasion, the Ministry refused to admit an address from a
Trades' Union because it was considered offensive.
Mr. STANLEY asked whether the Right Hon. Secretary
was prepared to say that the Orange Association of Ireland
was illegal, and being so, whether he thought it right to be-
come the organ of communication between such a body and
the Crown?
Mr. Secretary GOULBURN paused for a few seconds,
which excited a cheer from the Opposition. The Right Hon.
Gentleman at length rose, and said he could not give
any opinion upon the illegality of any association, nor
could he give any other explanation than that which he had
already given.
Mr. STANLEY wished to know what was the practice in
reference to the announcement of the words of his Majesty in
• answer to such addresses.

Sir ROBERT PEEL apprehended that a great deal
would depend upon the language of the Address.---(" No,
no," from the Opposition.) He repeated that a great deal must
depend upon the language.—(Hear, from the Ministerial
side.) The language of an address would justify Ministers in
refusing to present it.—(Hear.) He recollected having
heard discussions in this House as to the propriety
•of receiving an address from Political Unions
after they had been denounced as illegal, and the
sense of the House was that it should be received.—
(C:ies of " No, no," from the Opposition.) Well, did the
Hout.e reject a petition because it came from a Politi-
q4, Union 1 It would be a painful task to