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from Liverpool,-7119 from London, and 41 from PI 011,
making a total "e 27 7 ships from three English p rts.
The smaller ports were not mentioned ; but the fact was,
that of all the foreign commerce of Belgium, more than one
half was with this country.—(Hear.) Mr. Thomas
Baring had the eminent folly to say that the free rixvig4-
tion of the Scheldt was of little importance. Why it was
of as much importance to the trade of Belgium as the na-
vigation of the Humber was to the:trade of Yorkshire.—
' (Hear, hear.) He was anxious to state that as his opi-
nion, and right glad he was that they had had such glorious
meeting, as it would have the effect 'of exposing the dirty
trick of the Conservatives.—(Cheers.)
After some discussion, the amendments of Mr. Hirst
and Mr. Howard were put and negatived.
The original motion being put, was adopted almost una-
nimously.
Mr. BAINES suggested that the address should be signed
by the inbahi tants at large, and moved the appointment of
a Committee to take charge of the address.
This resolution was put and carried unanimously.
The meeting then dissolved.

TOTAL DEFEAT OF THE TORIES AT

HUDDERSFIELD.

BELGIUM AND HOLLAND.

HUDDERSFIELD, NOV. 21.

The Tories of this place, like the rest of their party in
other parts of the country, feeling that they stood at the
lowest point in public estimation, resrdved two or three
days ago to endeavour to get hick a little popularity by
exciting the people on the subject of the armed inter-
ference of France and England in the affairs of Belgium.
They will never attempt such an experiment again ; the
events of this day will be a sufficient preventive. - On
Monday a requisition appeared in the streets signed by many
respectable persons almost entirely of the Tory party, calling
on the constable to convene a meeting for the purpose of
affording the inhabitants of Huddersfield an opportunity
of expressing their disapprobation of the policy. of Minis-
ters respecting Belgium. They hail under false pretences
induced a few Whigs to join in the requisition, and among
others Captain Fenton, candidate for the representation
of the borough, who, however, repented having taken
such a step, On finding out the real purpose of the Tories.
Some gentlemen of liberal politics, on finding that the
constable had consented to call the meeting fur this day,
issued a placard, warning all Reformers against favouring
the vieNs of the Tories, which the latter thought so im-
portant as to require the sending forth three more to
counteract its effects. This morning at eleven o'clock,
the Court-house began to be occupied, the upper part
chiefly by requisitionists and their friends, the rest by the
Liberals.

At half-past eleven Nlr. J. SMITH moved, and Mr.
JAMES Bnoox seconded, that the Constable, Mr. W.
STOCKS, be caned to the Chair.

Mr. STOCKS opened the business by reading the requisi-
tion, and proceeded to observe, that lie had pleasure in
calling the meeting, as peace was delightful to his heart.
(Cheers.) After some further observations on the hleis-
ings of peace, he called on Dr. Walker to move the first
resolution.

Dr. WALKER. said Ministers, in entering on this wars
thought they could eisily arrest the tide of ill; but when
war was once begun, it was impossible to say where it
would close. Most wars were popular at first, and he
would ask whether the late French war was not at first
righteous and popular ?—(Loud shouts of " No, no;
"it was a Tory war—it is all stuff and sophistry.") If
the country had done its duty then, our debt would not
have been so enormous. On what principle were we
waging war with a King who had done us no harm, who
sat enthroned in the hearts of his subjects, devoted two
hours daily to the petitions of the lowest of them, and
visited the poor? The Dutch had been our friends since
Elizrbeth's time. It was great magnanimity in the King
of Holland not to have retaliated for the embargo laid on
his vessels in this country.—(Hear, hear.) This was a
noble opportunity to sacrifice party spirit on the altar of
peace.—(Of Toryism, you mean.) Let us not, said the
Doctor, sacrifice great things for less, nor quarrel about
what we do not understand.—(lmmense laughter, long
continued.) He concluded by moving that " This meet.
ing is of opinion that in exercising a friendly mediation
l'etween Holland and Belgium, in concert with our allies,
Great Britain has sufficiently discharged her duty; and
that, however deeply they regret the failure of such me-
diation, it is neither consistent with our honour nor our
interest to resort to coercive measures against Holland."
Mr. COOPER seconded the motion.

Captain Fawron explained why his name was appended
to the requisition. He signed it as a friend of peace.
Some persons might form an unf:vourable opinion of him,
and fancy him a deserter from his principles for signing
the requisition, but in doing so he would ask the gentle-
men who lirou4ht it to him, what was the ohject of the
meeting ? They replied, " Peace." He asked further,
whether the meeting was called with the intention of
throwing any obstacles in the way of Ministers, whom he
believed and knew to he as anxious for peace as any
persons could be.—(Loud cheers.) The deputation re-
plied, that so far front wishing to embarrass the Ministers,
they desired to put it more e&ctually in their power to
promote peace.—(Cheers and laughter.) On that assur-
ance he had signed the requisition, but he did not agree to
the resolution, and would therefore move as an amend-
ment an address, which he produced, but which was with-
drawn as out of order, at the request of the Chairman. The
Captain concluded by hoping that. his conduct had been
satisfactorily explained, and retired amidst cheers.

Mr. BATLEY, of Armitage, took it for granted that the
originators of the meeting intended to put forth the deci-
sion of this day to the world as the public opinion of the
town and its neighbourhood, and he felt himself justified
in opposing the attempt which had for its object hurling
the present Ministers from their seats.—(Loud cheering
and some hisses.) When he first saw that resolution, it
occurred to him that it was not a question of peace or
war, whatever might be the professions of the party. The
requisition was part of one general Tory movement, having
for its origin the London city address, and was now tra-
velling the round of the provinces. It was a movement
like those on Irish education and the Russian-Dutch loan,
and seized on with the same eagerness, as affording too
tempting an opportunity of assailing Ministers, rasing po-
pular indignation against them, and furnishing ground to
elevate the pacific, reforming, economic, liberty-loving
Wellington.—(Laughter and applause.) If he was to
examine the whole Belgian question, he should not under-
stand if, as had been observed before—(Laughter)—but lie
could comprehend the object of the requisition. When
he saw a party who had been the consistent, determined,
undeviating supporters of a system of war—men who
hal signed away their lives and property for carrying on
one of the most ruinous contests which ever disgraced a
civilized people—a war under the effects of which the
nation still groaned to the very centre of the body politic—
he was justified in suspecting their motives, even though
they did cry, " Peace, peace." He would ask them one
question—supposing the Duke of Wellington and his
party were in power at this moment—supposing that the
Conference had come to the same decision as they now
have, and they had used the same means—would this
meeting have had any existence ?..—(No, never.)
Would this address have ever been heard of?—(No,
no.) Would the party now coming forward to embarrass
Ministers have so embarrassed the Duke of Wellington
and his friends ?—(Repeated cries of " No, no," and
great laughter.) He left them to make the application.
He concluded by moving, as the shortest way of disposing
of the question, . an amendment, which was, that this
meeting be adjourned to this day twelvemonth.--(This
proposition was hailed by the meeting with enthusiastic
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but the fact was, that there was in the possession of the
Dutch, a citadel which all the five Powers had decided to
belong to Belgium, and which the Dutch King was de-
termined to hold. It was a not war against the Dutcb, bat
an effort to secure peace between Holland and Belgium—
in fact, the general peace of Europe.—(Applause.) The
objection to the present measure in the hearts of the requi-
sitionists, if he were not much mistaken, was not that it was
war they disliked, but war conducted by a Whig Ministry.
They disliked a war which was to give to 4,000,000 of peo-
ple the right of being governed as they pleased.—(Cheers.)
The reforming Administration had been abused by the
Tories because they had diverted the interference with
Belgium in favour of liberty, instead of attempting, as the
Wellington Ministry had done, to consolidate the union
between Holland and Belgium. If that were not the case
the Duke of Wellington had said what was false. Much
had been said of the value of the Dutch trade to Rudders.
field. Was Dr. Walker sure that he did not include-in
his statement the trade to Belgium? He put it to 'that
meeting if there were not ten times as much:business from
this neighbourhood to Belgium as to Holland? The ef,
feet of such addresses as that to be proposed to this meet-
ing would be a war, and peace is most likely to be se-
cured by the defeat of the attempts now making to, get 'up
such addresses, the result of
.which would be to upset the
present Ministry.--[This speech, like Mr. Batley's, was
most favourably received, and loudly applauded.]
Mr. RICHARD OASTLER then presented himself, and

was received by a part of the meeting with vocifel
cheers, but by the great majority with hisses, yells,
other marks of disapprobation, which predominated
the applause, and tot.illy prevented his being heard.

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1 eeneral dissatisfaction was repeatedly manifested, until V
WILLANs came forward and entreated a heating for tit
Oastler, which was at length granted. He comme
by observing, that he received the hisses With pleas
and repeated the same statement several times, at each
which he hid a repetition of his gratification, the hi
and hooting, being louder every time, At last;the to
was stilled, and he was heard in support of Dr. Walkel
resolution. The present measure was certainly likely
procure peace.—No, no.) He had been a member of
peace society for eight years and gloried in it, and
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ported the original resolution, not from a desire to e
Ministers, but because there never could be a good tins,
do a bad action.—(Hear.) The inevitable cansequeo
of the present policy of Mitaistets would be to cause aril
neral war.—(Cries of " No, no ;" " toUr measure OP
cause one.")
Mr. MA ETIN, of the Huddersfield and Halifax irt
press, supported the amendmeLt ; and Mr. JAMES BKcit
Secretary to the Factory Bill, opposed it, amidst gt
laughter, and cries of " Question."

Mr. BAtLEY, as the mover of the amendment, rose.,
reply, He supported Minister's chiefly oh aeboont P, of
confidence that their policy would be pacific. Could I ,
point out one instance in which they had begun to in
fere ?—(No, no, and cheers.) Had they not
goaded on to interference on behalf of suffering Poland b/,
the powerful appeals of the press ? But though they could
weep over the injuries of that country, they knew lOtet
their duty to England, and forbore to interfere. Tbt
abstinence from interference in this case, as well as in ty.
of Portugal, proved that they were not a war-loving .
nistry.—(Loud cheers.) This very condemned meager(
was one displaying wise policy, and at the same time 01'
enlaced to preserve the peace of Europe. He trusted WI
the meeting would hot Hagen to the original resolution.
There being loud cries of " Question," the dilatitl4ol(
proposed the amendment first to the meeting, and re'
quested those in its favour to hold up their hands. Criel
of " All, all," were heard, and almost every person in tM
Court-house, which was now crowded, held up his hand'
On the opponents of the amendment being requested
show themselves, from 30 to 40 hands were held nil'
Shouts of acclamation burst from all parts of the meek
ing, and continued long, being varied at intervals by ire'
mentions stamping and clapping of hands.
Thanks were voted to the Chairman, and the niectifit
separated in high delight at having had another opporta•
nity of thrashing the Tories to their heart's content, while
that little party retired, repeatedly protesting that part!
spirit was their aversion. The Tories certainly to°
nothing by their motion.
It is curious that not a single one of the Tory oratotli
ven.ured on the smallest censure on the general policy
the Ministers, but all paved their way to the attention 0'
the meeting by protesting, that in acting as they did oa
this occasion they had no desire to overthrow Ministers.