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few wnras respe&ing them. ,It was certainly
'necessary thlt the number of men to be raised
should tie framed in the Bill, but• on the Ocher hand
they had upon all -occasions been allowed to pro-
vide The m.n in their own way. He by no means
wished that they should enjoy any peculiar exemp-
ti..n. but he 1;,1 not know upon, what criterion the

numbers wereixeti for the Cinque Ports, because he

was not aware of any precedent they had to go upon.
Ile had no desire that they shottid be exempted in
point of numbers, but at the same rime he thought
*' it his dory to state, that there was no example of
the number of men being fixed for the Cinque
- Ports by an' Aft of Parliament. It would there.
fore perhaps be better that some' means were
adopted fOr ascertaining the due proportion:which
they ought to furnish. He had no reason to sup.
pose, that if means for .ascertaining their due
proportion were adopted, that it would make any
material change in the numbers they were now
called upon to provide ; but still he thought it
would be better to prOceed in that manner than to
decide arbitrarily, without having any sure ground
to go upon. At the barer end of this Bill it re.
(erred, in speaking of the Cinque Ports, to the
42d of the King ; but it had nothing to do with.
the Cinque Ports, for they were exempted
out of it in the usual way. He had also
to observe, that he doubted, whether the Warden
or his Deputy were competent to carry this Ad into
execution ; he thought the Deputy Lieutenants were
necessary ; now there were no such OfficerS in the

Cinque Ports : he merely threw this out for the con.
sideration of his Right Hon. Friend, beeitisc he
wished the Bill to be carried ititnclie4 as speedily'
as passible.
The SECRETARY at WAR saids, it was his
intention to propose to leave out that clause, and to
muff. duce another. clause relative to the Cinqtit'
Ports. With regard. to the number of men, he pro.
_ posed that the number of men to be raised by the
Counties, be 32,000, anti by the City of
London, the..Tower.H.ontets, and the Cinque Ports,
2000 more. • 'With revid t 5) the City of London
and the Tower :Hamlets, they had pretty good
means of ascertaining the nurnbersond he hoped dat
400 men would not: be thought too niany for the
Cinque-Parrs, •
Sir WILLIAM YOUNG said, he ti%ught 'it
very hard upon Counties 'which had raised large
Volunteer Corps, nil for limited service, but who
were ready toomarch to any part of Great Britain,
that .they should be called upon to furnish as large'
qUot,4 as other Counties. He alluded particularly:
to the County of BuCks, in which there was a yeo.
ninny force of above‘soo mon ; the consequence of
this be; that there would be a necessity of
ballottiog one matt out of sixteen to make up the
nuniber they were called upon to provide under this
Bill.

Tite•SECR ETARY at Watt said it was not peculiar'
to the Cotitity of Ncks that they had raised large
Volunteer Corps, nutty other Counties had done the
tame..
Mr. PITT said it would be very injurious to the
operation of the Bill it this sort of competition for
exemption was indulged in. The County of Bucks
was certainly intitled to great praise for its exer-
tions in furnishing a Volunteer force, bin he could riot
conceive how their having embodied sooVolonteers,
could make it necessary to ballot nne man out of 16
in that County, which was so much more than in
other Counties,
The SECRETARY at WAR theti moved, that
the number of men to. be. furnished by the City of
London' should be Soo, aid by the Cinque Ports
400'
Mr. Alderman' COMAE said, itwas not, he• was
sure, the wish of the City of I.ittidon lo prmilde less
thin their' fair iqoportinn, but as they had pecoliaf
privileges upon this subjeCl, he hoped this Clause
would be suspended until some firrther coniideration
could he had.
The SECRETARY at VAR said, if it was the
desire of the Magistrates of Loildott; he had no
objection to rstpune the Clause„ There were
however precedents in which the City of London
had been called upon to provide men for the public
service. If however the• Magistrates wool(' take
this duty upon themselves, and bring in a till,' he
certainly had no abjection to the. Claude.
The L:IR D MAYOR of LONDON said,• he was
sure the City of Loiulon was anxious to provide
their full proportion of Meri, and if this Clause was
left out. he .11:id no doubt but that the City would
come forward in • a Way that would be perfedly sa-
lisfaetery,
•
It Wai agreed that the Clause should, be suspend-
ed.:

Sii R.OO r.RT BUXTON, on the third `Clause being
read, obvetved, the Secret/ry at War had spoken of
amending the Lists ; he thought it ivQuld be the
better way to make new ones, •
'fhe Si CRETAity at Wm: Sai.d the old,iicL, -fere
to be amended wh4.ire it was possible, if not, new
ones were to be ride.

Sjit/TlflaiJ, that the Secretary at
War had given no reaton why' the age was to be
taken at 16 instead of thought persons of
.t 6 were too
,young, 'particularly as the-Seeretary
at War had gpicn nn reivion for tt. A; this rnear
Sure had a view to property as well a 5 err personal-
see vicei its persons who were ineomptv2i,t to SerlT
in person ..4,:cre,' if they:had 'sufficient property
bounti.tO provide a substitute, he, saw no reaia),:•
why upon. that principle women paying 361. a year
'tar the ',l/4Ssessed Taxes should not be coMpelled to
provide substitutes, bt,:cause the, principl! of
fur the potation of property, and theic_
tore he 'saw no
:reason why -women should he ex.

c:npred more than a tnan-0f95, who t'. is certainly
„..is incapable to serve as a woman. lto was sorry
to be so ungallant as to make such a proposition ;
Lot if property was to be taken into consideration,
,;!,, well as .perSotial set v ice, he. Was really. of ..opi.
nion, .that women of large property ought to con-
1111.itve in proportion 'to fr,
'Fhe_C F.TA RY at WAlt laid, be certainly had
omitted to state the reason Why he tools from the

agv (,f to3n 18. The mon was,: that
hy the oki Law of F.:fshod, all irerAons from 'x6 to
6o were hound to stand forwatti in e-lcienrc of the

Coli.try when called upon by the Sheriff, and he

,„„ why the game principle httoolti hot be

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