The Sun.
London, England, 1835-04-07 00:00:00

the Noble Lord the Member for Lancashire. Of. that
,tr°°4 he had read in English history an excellent Alas-
lutd°. It was in the third volume of Hume's History, and
tti reference to the Lord Stanley of that day.—(Laughter,
Itiokri"°f" Read.") Just before the decisive battle of War-
,;.,,_the Lord Stanley of that day raised a powerful body of
lends and retainers in Cheshire and Lancashire-Hear,
thoor,rfilter)---but without openly declaring him, and
lls filter)—but
had secret assurance of his friendly intentions,
r,r.ttnes of both sides knew not what to infer from his equi-
tit-410 Pehaviour.—( Cheers from the Opposition benches.) The.
sister'
at last approached each other at Bosworth near Lei-
r' Henry had 6,000 men, Richard's army was double
o,enlliaber, and a decisive action was every moment ex-
iii;(; between them..—( Laughter and cheers.) Lord Stanley
litttscramanded 7,000 men—(Laughter)--took care to post
)11Stf Atherstone, not far from the hostile camps--(that
ptp;sWow the gangway)—(Laughter)—and he made such
pesition as enabled him, on occasion, to join either
dnyi,;,;(l.aughter and cheers.) The Lord Stanley of th.ins
14,47 not a tail of 7,000, nor could the Derby dilly contain
tortra, o t(h, oh, and calls for a division.) He begged them
zkoli,,elriber that not to pass this resolution would be tanta-
I,t
4e Gra lelraefi bdeclarationwasetlahteinencleared and the Committee divided.
262
237
resol Majority —2s
ntsiritsoatnnnigtdwas consequently carried.
Against
that while strangers were excluded Mr. C.
"Warburton each addressed the Committee for
which several Members entered the House
sitr°?,k their places on the opposition Benches.]
the %nd Peel expressed his hope that the next time it was
pY rOeessary to put up a Gentleman to speak against time;
lee might fall upon some one who had something to
namense cheering and laughter.)
IRISH TITHES.
lei°443i•r
e°ldreturn to the Gallery, we found that the House had
Lord J.
RUSSELL said that the Committe having acceded
(4 resolution, he now gave notice that to-morrow he
111°Ve----" That it is the opinion of this House that no
Ilnartlree relating to Irish Tithes will lead to a satisfactory”
Sir ant, without its embodying the foregoing resolution..
to lie
rPEtEo_mLowrraosvvu?nderstood to ask whether the motion
the
h' be brought on before the other motions which stood on
I,,llMeonos. RUSSELL said that the Hon. Member for Exeter
'''snotruted to postpone in his (Loi d J. Russell's) favonr,
°lt on the subject of Church Rates.
tr SUPPLY.—NAVY ESTIMATES.
'toy C°use then went into Committee of Supply on the
kr pnates.
41%, LPHINSTONE was understood to put a question
si,.
15,,` kr Cockburn's salary under his new appointment.
d_ll'' p. EEL said there could be no doubt whatever that
3111)l o-fnee4urn would r • no salary on account of his
Cock He could eaessruivree the Hon. Member that Sir
'der —ur° himself would decline the receipt of the salary
3uch cir„
tr mstances.
mit4etiort'atr tit INSTONE was understood to express his sa-
-4,441 A siti°,e,,,lplanation.
Aferobe .14tY said he had given the same answer to the
sjat
atl. r some time wro.
k'ObRINGTO'N begged to ask whether Hon.
►lll 'Men
NI °lithe other side of the House were now aware
r• Ds
11.1)1,°rt
ewtts°ll had hoisted the Admiralty flag at the De-
rr gt ne--"? He had received information that the
Gentleman had applied for permission. ,
and
°the "AL here interrupted the Hon.
.
ti?i-hrtkll.ll,;r2rPsetrvfoitmeebefoinrgpumttoivnegd,the question had not arrived.
to. ,
tO said, in reference to the question respecting
itot4.cept Curles salary, that Sir G. Cockburn had consented
Sint.l.l new appointment, and was only remaining at his
ele Vest Indies till his. successor arrived.—( Cheers.)
olletheuuttlNGTON said he would. now put his ques-
"agat r Mr. Dawson had authority to hoist the Admi-
Devonport? Perhaps the Noble Lord opposite
rt 434 not
aware that if the Admiralty flag was seen b) any
114ttt tfileill7l. •er, the Crew were bound to fire. a salute. The flag
sec
the Hon. Member amidst the noise which_
d f"Alu the House) was hoisted when the members of the
14,4te,:eigtatiralty were present in a body, but still the colours
ti,!o be
could
Jo. out of the arsenal itself. It was very import-
'47ii whether the Secretary to the Board of Admi-
k. a Prof,,?trfert, himself into the Board, and hoist the flag.
',l3erts:sPnal man he had very strong feelings on the im-
tilirtier . „Q the flag.
tVRDINGE would ask the Gallant Admiral whe-
e course of his experience, he had known any
lol,heit7g.bt,sfe.
c?sal(ulieeairn.) consequence uence of the Admiralty
gl'ilyss H qbelieved the Gallant Ad-
uwsre that no such thing had ever oFcurred.—
kIP refrile would also ask him whether, according to the.
tiilsrTations, the navy were bound to salute the Admi-
-7
-0' to s""I3RINGTON believed that it was incumbent on
VII% J. kBallite.
ttl7l4llCA.,l_ BERESFORD said he was sure that if the
be IN ‘ginral had hoisted the Admiralty flag as Mr. Daw-
14aaddupPosed to have done, namely, out of an Inn window,
silstelP have expected it to be seen by the navy, much
d
Wier lioi:**--( Laughter.) He was certain Mr. Dawson had
yed ted fi_ 8
as improper as those which bad been is-
Oir ;per individuals.
eilltillatfetrreaaßt:l.VVßßlDGE could not allow the question
to
phtAs a naval man he felt himself bounddwhoe
the (111:,F ono his sentimeints. The. Gallant Admiral
tLor hieoita
vithtss
doni
dtr n.
optarwees.eeived a satisSactory answer. The
Dawson hoist tae Admiralty flag,, and
, „..11--rity for ss doing? He sailed upon the Noble
kitortft'usit ASHLEYeak ( Cheers from the Opposition.)
11Cer tla aiim'e;t:e—d that was bound to give an
thrtkiity°otfe que.stie,n, but 4‘-e had.. not as_ yet had an op-
otZ hou making, the requisilr inquiries. It was but two or
ag° Oat he had .een informed of the Gallant
"ee
.sot -Mentio.a to put the piestion, and since that time he
left
krtl.llll', TR the House. ..( Hear, hear.)
NI co. 0 WBRIDGI. -aid the point was of much im-
-10 lief° t hall not arisen yeserday, but had been for some
sos re the public. If Miiisters were not ready with_
timlitttwLet. they ought to be .eatly. The Admiralty flag
Pis Net etbue trifled with. He begged to ask the Right Hon.
li4.t Lorr Member for Cumberland whether when he, as
,&3°t treard the Admiralty, hoisted the Admiralty flag it
hie~'with every possible respect?
R hero LT‘Y said, in answer to the attacks of the Hon.
),11-tess pn.ol3l.l)(3site, he could state that he had resided for three
t 6 re el to the election within a few' yards of the place
Sche Admiralty flag was hoisted, and he could aver
411,,a tin WO the fact—that the flag was hoisted.
tidt%itisiesi33lt* MEninElt said the Member for Sandwich was him-
irth ed before now for his seat to the influence of the
Istl3l)3tif ));; every influence, fair and unfair, was used againstwas
rised )Ltht Admiralty and the Government, and he
ktio
,`° tear him, under such circumstances, state such
kt,4llo(} canvass of Mr. Dawson.
It 41 Lt 110 N. MEMBER said he bad frequently seen thes
l'"A„,ttlird hoisted by different candidates at elections.
4' 44, 4ge Meant as a party symbol, but simply a?
was
11311t0 i,Periaps a symbol of loyalty, and no objection_
rs
th,!Otii; either at the hustings or in that House.—(Cheers. .$)
Shless I,s'ut Admiral (Codrington) was very unlucky in bi
th -13 t terely now, but at all times. He recollected
kt°S. 0e Mint Admiral brought charges against the Right
t1i444 :inlet-an below him ( Sir R. Peel we understood),
nnJes-Las unable to substantiate them. He brought thiereke.
tel), ilainst one of his own brothers in arms (Capt.o
kit,"llt A-7 in these, too, he failed.—( Cheers.) Reallythe.
'ilcoC'utiural, therefore,' should be more cautious in bring-
tt:!r 4, tons without piofs.—( Cheers and laughter.)
4 this; •.e'EL said he would call the attention of the House
oc irrelevant discussion to the real point to be con-
Net It was highly important that the votes on the.. Navy
e,llll Should be passed. The question of the hoisting 1
'* already disctssed.—( Laughter, and hear,. hear.
to4;ltrytt.luel_ln proceed to public business, about which the
he Ninterested.-_( Hear.) The Accountant- General
ettt'in pie4lv! had sent_ in a paper stating that several depart-
,l 140 ith_p_rovidcd for—for instance, the sums for the
111' „,2nulling-yards would be due on the 10th of April,
t -wisicn was made for that demand. Now, consider-
OroeAtibric service, he hoped no impediment would be
1.11 the way of the appropriation of the public funds to
CareP.'inlae and necessary purposes.
Ohl ~u IitIRKEL EY said a few words, which were in-
Orept° 3,
10, It C')DRINGTON said, in answer to the attack
ttzlit—. respecting Captain Dickenson, he would move at
3,tletoLuß time that the report of the Court-martial on that
(tIA CC should be laid before the House.
041; ,gue then ensued between Mr. HUME and Lord Asx-
tir,° Ras inaudible to MS..
Ltho h 'ME subsequently said that public money was given
b''h•
it of
Ministers under circumstances that money was
to former Ministers, and for the first time the public
‘3lstto, the naval establishment was dishonoured. We un-
s.l4ris` the Hot. Gentleman further to say that the dihs-
r. °I the late Parliament and the delays in voting t e
"ttrotlst were the main causes in embarrassing the naval de-
Tilt 8.
4 ietstimate having been read from the Chair,
ibttlit of PEEL said the delay was unavoidable, and not the
Q 14,1 the Government. The estimates were limited to
11
5,34)
and Fridays, and on these days important amend-
tiPerlettl, motions on. other questions.. were proposed, which
u"os, xju the discussion on the estimates. For instance an
tr'ernber to-night said he would on Friday move that
,3f111:"Inse
(-Ir, should take into consideration the claims
ot t-„'''ocers of the East India Company. The fault was
that of Ministers, nor was it their wish to create any
I,lltdhe: against, .;r obstruction to, the usual course of Parini-
Vulz undue operation of their own.
L't VV,,—• F. YOUNG said if his Hon. Friend the Member
ug ee_sahre4erster had not given notice to-night he could not
Sr his motion at all.
'Ol.l 't• PEEL said he did not blame the Hon. Member_ forn
in particular, but many other Hon. Gentlemen
kti„sed their amendments, to the obstruction of the censide-
hlr °lthe estimates, and the injury of the public. service. .
LABOUCHERE made some remarks which were in-
e to us.
tird ASH
1134 h, LEY was understood to say that the Govern-
`here refused to pay the bills of exchange referred to._
'Rs Were certainly particular bills which when perresenrteot
jl_ll„,reovernment very properly delayed giving an order
pro-
‘teditl 4surer of the Navy until they saw their way. T
1,4e44. was a secret one, and usual with former Governments
i thh‘7ed ; and how it transpired he could not tell, nor did
at frit fair to make it the subject of a public discussion in
luse•
s'AEOUCHERE replied, and was again inaudible.