The Sun.
London, England, 1835-03-21 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

tiOUS4OF LORDS, MARCH 20.
Aids
:he Ro ROYAL ASSENT.
fer of yal Assent was given by Commission to the Trans-
Bill, the Exchequer Bills Bill, the Newspaper
tiTi",Regulaticn Bill, and the Chester Criminal Execution
of Ross e Commissioners were the Lord Chancellor, the Earl
1,1311, and the Earl of Shaftesbury.
Rouse Doke of WELLINGTON laid en the table of the
the Report of the Committee on Lay Patronage.
L , CASE OF' THE REV. MR. GURNEY. . ,
%hie°ll4' BROUGHAM said he held in his band a petition, 4, i, 'las most respectfully worded, but he would not state.
theZ,` !as from, or what it was about, or any one matter in
ais" --(.L ug h ter. ) He would. merely move that it
the stat hb did not intend to make himself answerable for
rfLeeir'el!ts io any_petition he might ever present.
t 4 . Petition was then read by the Clerk, which was to
of dne effect as was presented by Mr. TOokcLin the House
1,,d 1;4111rions a few days since. The petitioner stated that he
Td
upwards of thirty-two years Curate of St. Alien?,
cierat::_ and prayed the House would take his case into. consi-
4stil_ !ii and that they would by law effect a change in eccle-
hener matters, and such a reform in the Church as would lino, tathe country and the clergy • also that they would
el Was
of half-pay to unbeneficed and superannuated
etip,,..l
The -h. ,
exarnpei,„ POOP of EXETER felt the 'full force of the excellent
ta tli ' set by the Noble and Learned Lord in not intruding
4441°dt-1014e any remarks upon this subject. The motives
dire th:lice.d a patron to give or withhold a living, he was. quite
tiot,, ' r Lordships had never permitted to occupy their atten-
kieptasnd he felt that he should be doing wrong_if. he were to
ollid.„11ch a precedent in his own person ; but this much
°llly b'aY on the general question, that he for one, and not
who
Were!lt, he could speak for four others of his Brethren
Iteriteslting on the bench, felt most anxious for the g?odd.
,of
dtLitirilcus Curates. With respect to the particular in ibui
that t,?tn hoin this petition came, he would say nothing, u
Rireilue living which he complained of not having been
Ofthe to him, he had given it to another curate.—( Hear. )
11041,,,,5'1tee1l livings which had fallen in since he had the ho-
' •.
I(1.1": seat in that House thirteen had been given to Curates.
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a;)--ordinarily of long standing--and all of whom Isere4l4N e" on the grounds of merit solely, for not one of-
-4' was connected with him in any way, indeed
iii,tai'sa of them was known to him.--( Hear.) Three
is, disposed of otherwise. One of them he hod given to
#.114t.)--"Ale ',vas proud to say a most de.servihg son.--( Hear,
y'4.o4a ',other came to him in a most singular way. TIT pa-
, had been bon ht by a gentleman, but when the living
kien,,e vacant, the patrong was seized with a compunction of cond-
thelfnsderingthe manner in which he had become possessed
bl/' v inYl:l,g,, and he refused to present to it. The living was
t04,1-",' one, and he would have been very glad to have
'' Is.),-'t on, his son ; but considering the manner
was h-." ae had become possessed of it, he found that it
, ko, „ist,.(intY to give it to a very deserving clergy-
14$t 0,,„""Y1 he had done. —(Cheers.) The other and the
~With Inc Was really sorry to take up their, Lordships' time
A„"setvli-ne: Particulars—the third was given to another most
'lions ''' clrgyman—not the Curate—because he
ts
lllld atn„to gave it to one who was not
.a plurais,
),rdshi-r,"tPldent.—(Hear, hear.) He was obliged to
ttheirt
"Rich Wag lor the patient attention they had given to that
A In,a% a mere personal statement.
tobc-I conversation was carried on (but in so low a tone, as
sex tlitilandible in the Gallery), between the Marquis of C Am.
fellii. el)nke of RICHMOND, and Lord BROUGHAM. From what
The
°lke, "Arl.of RADNOR—we understood. it to relate to the
the k minion Bill. He said, in relation to what had fallen froni-
t°oe ti qiiis of Camden, that he understood there had been. for
kliv 1 i'e 4 regular system of Reformation going on in the
7elter!LtY of Oxford—( Hear, hear,)—which had only
;c7aerill,terruPted by his unfortunate interference on a
I,L°s etOeni)og. Whitbat should have been the case lig wa at
Cq, if , ',now ; but such being the case, and as the I.e-
-I,°'e -,e1,4t1Y sincere, could not" be in better hands than
Ono°fere convocation, he would beg leave to withdraw the
ti IP. which he had 'given notice relative to the oaths in
Theswtersitie.s.—Notice withdrawn accordingly.
hi! 'i 111 111,ce of RICHMOND said, in deference to the No-
f
the
thal;cials (Camden), he postponed the second reading o
A eti•-",.s' Abolition Bill to Monday sesnnight.
Dqbere3ns were presented from Lanarkshire, Paisley, and
e'Eablisehiles,,hire, to extend the Church accommodation of the
hool '4 Church of Scotland, and to increase the number
th 8.
fith e Nikr •
Ito-NW, qtus of WESTMINSTER enquired when the
ottid --n issued to enquire into the state of the poor in
As tkeiltas likely to conclude its labours; and. his Lordship
h°
. erst°°d to support the necessity of introducing the
illel4Ws into
country.that_
li°4
w 13,4:ice of WE LL Ii 4 G TON replied that the
theeltatildre-14.1 proceeding with its labo.urs, and
..that report
lard on the table as soon as it was ready.
t cr.(l 1, p,, MALT TAX. _
(;11. tabi '1 NH aid that he had two resolutions to lay on
-overhe, but th AM
did not intend to embarrass his Majesty's
vanterlllent, butat he
lyi brou ht them forward as a matter of
lhtlkli I.ll°lls dutyrn—e(reflear,) They referred to the Malt Tax,
edlow e°osidered the great cause of demoralization among
tilitk;teilear4`asses, and of agricultural distress, both to landlords
°,:,°141,18* This tax amounted to one half the whole earn-
co 'larts 'Tver classes, and deprived the labouring man of those
v,ll'Plet,sat 'tome which he was entitled to. It bad caused la - revolution • habits of the peasantry, which
eh. elns, in the
it ',ions la,znieious to the whole c.ountry. None of the
kr: (146;1:16 he had made to its removal held good.
%I r w upon Malt and Hops were taken off, the
tittee 441141 be greatly relieved,. and prosperity would
gles to adorn his dwelling. Why were these_ taxest_e
,'Poso be kept up in the time of peace, merely for h
to",red? t supporting* establishments that were not re-
tie Iket 'e felt convinced that if the House of Lords were
t,,,.-141 r, tlis, such an act would make the despot of Russia
1-3titcarli sthrone, and place the House on a firm basis and
foundationi'liati.„.llesolotio.. ,namely, the confidence of the people.
he House' atshen
eand jpouutm,
eadnd negatived without a di-

'the ti°l7SE OF COMMONS, MARCH 20.
trisse'AxEß took the chair
.at half-past three o'clock.
A„ °ger from the Audit-office brought up returns,
tfk,Lr. keiteri,aid on the table.
Pe_l'eN brought up papers from the office of the Clerk
LI of the county of Middlesex.—Laid.. on the table.
‘hit O,4I°OGES presented a petition from. some persons
kNistowe!, Praying to be heard against the Islington Market
Qatth Trom the Mayor and Corporation of Gravesend
J. Ae ft..nrthtleet Bill. .
of Ir. hopi'LLEY brought in the Northern Railway Bill.
the ptil, h;c,"(N) S,,ON gave notice that, on Wednesday,. the. Ist
tepretttio,,,_ Mu move for a Select Committee to consider of
lit, (If th„'„ue presented a few days ago from the maritime offi-
„aroh-
on India Company, who were shut out from coin-
°n the cessation of trade by the Company.
Irebt ed taih PECHELL presented a petition from Brighton,
°ity(AbY
is.ixty-one persons, against the Imprisonment for
khf of er, °'sMent) • Bill. He would also take that opportu-
q4 t.,;tir,Feting a rairepresentation of the public prints with
liad Is opinions on that Bill. He was in favour of that
/li]] he 11.4 t, as was stated, against it. What he said was
`lvotiis sorry that many of his constituents thought thet sir,
j.
11' be very injurious to their interests.
THE FACTORY BILL.
Pket'Vesti'lCET presented a petition from some place in
N11,(4)' 13;11:ling of Yorkshire, praying for a revision of the
supported the prayer of the petition, which
41. PeD the table.
It A THE CHURCH.
t
1-141948 pia • OSVVALD presented several petitions from
I,elles ees in Scotland, praying for the erection of new
he
Nis
e'' for ar,
ti of
ibe BELFAST took the oaths and his seat as
"
W A le county of Antrim.
piss, a 21.1 P presented a petition from the Rev. Maurice'
thei4l.lnlater of the Established Church, and Rector of a
tiohP'titio4sedferdshire. The Hon. Member obsaserved, that
the peti-
ktill)rote was one of a very singular character, h., Yih sted against the maintenance of the Protestant bier-
Celan, _
thed 4, Part and parcel of the Church of England. He
;lif guilt
much in mind and conscience in conseuence
04,4 Ch ',lnch he considered to be attached to that branch
" 4 iire" in consenting to be supported by tithes wru
,th-l'titit. enlclP(l3e who were unwilling to pay them, and who de-
!ttat.l°lte ral or spiritual benefit from the Werarchy. The
qteotii,Acuserved, that if the law ere appealed to, he law of
tlktiL onfer no right, and Christians could acceptno rightse
1020kat „e with their faith. He entreated the Hon
ine. subject not only in a legal point of view, but
NCte it w'th a strict regard to Christian principle, and r_e-
t4 Ili , the
, superior law of God. In the prayer of the
,11.13`. 0;":,u:31Y concurred, and begged leave in conclusion, ti 11.13
.4 A rie, table of the House.
th Jll.'t' ORD could
not concur in the prayer of the pe.-_
Proit presented, for he was of the decided opiuion, that if
I,74.tith4e,stant Established Church in Ireland was in anyore-
illit4 Ivoulel2, the downfal of the Established Church ofF g-t
lkit tollow as a necessary consequence. He could
. no
Press his feeling, that there was a well intentioned.
(.1141g Most
mistaken and a most mischievous expression of
tO.q, eoeintained in the petition of this clergyman of the
.
11471'ati flgland. He felt himself bound to make this
ste4 t because he was personally acquainted with the
1:::::101:111GLztleman from whom it proceeded.
. He had
q4'"g tof lc', many years, and he had entertained for him
highest personal respect, because in the dis-
%44 he Itl."0 duties that devolved upon him in the pariah to
14,10 ct. no individual was more exemplary in his
ttt AiB th
erefore-te it was that he felt himself bound to repeat
Ihi alNy a most mistaken and mischievous, but
htv well intentioned expression of feeling on the part of
gal ereild individual. If tithes were odious to the people, as
th'entlem
e incomeen opposite contended, let them be commuted, so
Velam due to the' der ymen of the Established Church
Vti,tl)os, to be secured to them. But it was unjustifiable
lt„:° unmerited odium these gentlemen for claiming
AQll°lsti;,?snlY their undoubted right, hut the only means they
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\z•-i tence.
•LntirLEstaN said it was the system that was odious.
°4t. t FORD—If it were the system, alter it ; but why
edfitoirmt,..ethspeasPsirnogtestant clergymen for proceeding
sratheir dues under that system. He ought to apolo-
upon the time of the House, but
°aet noli3dt:lzu expressing his feeling, that a. Protestant
t'e44lstah be found to pursue a course so mischievous
r A crt,
• LIA V
't t,^etier ,ES explained that the petition did not object. to
4:elered 4ilY2 but to the Church, receiving tithes for which
4.1 A" ~. spiritual services in return.
Said if the Rev. Gentleman had been ac-