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London, England, 1832-05-10 00:00:00

Old Sarum be continued to be a disgrace to the country
until a majority of 4-sths of those who were opponents 01
all Reform should make up their minds how mucl
franchisement or disfranchisement they would giv,
to the people.—(Continued cheers.) I say, Sir, thei
were to be dragged through that condition, but no sooner
had that passed than a declaration was made by those ve:y
opponents of their intention to concede, not only the full
disfranchisement proposed by the late Govern
ment, but even to go beyond it --(Hear, hear.)
that they all had in full contemplation the whole
of the disfranchisement actually conceded by the
late Government. Sir, I am certain that the good sense
of the country will no longer be insulted by the possessive
of rotten boroughs or the corrupt proceedings of corrupt
corporations. If the late Government had submittted,
or if Earl Grey could have allowed himself to have been
dragged away by any thing said byithose opposed to his
Government, though I should nut have shared in the
imputation of insincerity which I know would
have been tn,,st freely lavished in from all quarters ;
yet I should have felt that those Ministers who
could have been so forgetful of what they owed so their
own candour, of the respect which was due to this House,
and to those who had supported them in the prosecution of
this great measure, were totally unworthy of any support
from us again on any occasion..—Loud Cheers.) Sir, I
have felt my duty to ppopose to the House an address to
his Majesty, expressing in terms , certainly far less strong
than that which would carry the full extent of my own
feeltngs the regret we feel (and which I believe the great
majority of this House feels) at the change which has
taken place in his Majesty's Councils.—(Hear, hear,
hear, and loud cheers.) I proceed then to express to
his Majesty our belief in the deep interest with which
the people of this country still continue to regard the
progress of the measure, which was carried from this
House, and the deep disappointment they feel in its not
hoving been carried through the other House of Parlia-
ment.—(Hear, hear, hear.) Why, I should conceive
would still be done in spite of any attempt to
mutilate its efficiency. I state the desire the people feel
to have the Bill carried with its efficiency unimpaired,
and I conclude by futploring his Majesty, therefore, to
call to his Councils only such persons as will carry into
effect unimpaired in all its essential provisions that
Bill of Reform wnich has passed this House of Parlia-
ment.—(lmmense cheers ) These, Sir, are shortly the
heads of what I propose the address to be composed of.
I feel it would be presumptuous on my part to take up the
time of the House by urging any argument of mine
in support of this address, because I think Honourable
Members will find far better arguments for the govern-
ment of their conduct on this occasion than any I
Could find in their own recorded votes—(Hear, hear)—
and i❑ their own expressed sentiments upon thls subjec
on so many repeat. d occasions in the course of the
last year.—(Loud and continued cheering.) I can state
most positively that so far as I have had the oportu-
nity of ascertaining the feelings of those whom I hale
the honour to represent. So far as I have had
an opportunity of ascertaining any thing of the feeling
of the people of this conntry—of the community at large
—no change has taken place in those feeling on this
most important question of Reform.—(lmmense cheers.)
But at all events, if Gentlemen have seen cause to alter the
course whiclethey have hitherto pursued—it they have per-
ceived any act performed on the part of hieMajeety'sMinisters
inconsistent with that course of conduct which they from
the beginning professed to feel it their duty to take. I
trust they will have the manliness to state it fairly
in order that his Majesty may have the satisfaction, and
the country have the advantage of knowing clearly
and explicitly what their mil sentiments are. Having
said thus much, I beg to conclude by offering
my thanks to the House for the kindness with which it
has listened to me, and to move the following address :
My motion, Sir, is "that an humble address
be presonted to his Majesty, humbly to repre-
sent to his Majesty the deep regret felt by this House
at the change that has been announced in his Majesty's
Councils by the retirement of those Ministers in whom
this Houie continues to repose unabated confidence.—
(Loud cheers.) That this House in conformity with the
recommendation contained in his Majesty's most gracious
speech from the Throne has framed, and sent up to the
House of Lords a Bill for the Reform of the represen-
tation of the people, by which they are convinced
that the prerogative of the Crown, the authority
of both Houses of Parliament, and the tights and
liberties of the people are duly secured." The lasts words,
Sir, I have ventured to introduce, because they are those
made use of in his Majesty's most gracious Speech. My
motion proceeds thns :--" That i❑ the progress of this
measure the House of Commons considers it-
self bound in duty to state to his Majesty
that his subjects are looking with the most in-
tense interest and anxiety, and they cannot disguise
from his Majesty that the taking of any step which would
impare its efficiency, would be productive of the greatest
disappointment. That this House is therefore impelled by
was an attachment to his Majesty's person and throne,
humbly but most earnestly to implore his Majesty to call
to his Councils such persons only as will carry into
effect unimpaired in all its essential provisions, that Bill for
the reform of the representation of the people, which has
recently passed this House."—(Loud cheers.)
Mr.STRUTT rose to second the motion. He should con-
sider that he abandoned his duty to his constituents it, in
the present momentous crisis, when the safety of the country
might depend on their decision, he should allow parsonal or
private feelings to restrain him in expressing the support,
humble as it was, he meant to give this motion. In one
respect, he felt he was peculiarly qualified to second
a vote of confidence in his Majesty's Ministers, for
he believed there was not a Member in the House
more completely unconnected with or independent of
the Members of his Majesty's Ministration than himself:
Under these circumstances I cannot for one moment
believe that the Members of this house—now that the
crisis has arrived—now that this Bill is apparently in the
greatest jeopardy, and liable to great mutilation, if not to
absolute destruction, will now be so lost to the duty they
owe to their constituents; so lost to their own dignity and
their own consistency as to feel the least hesitation in coming
forward and declaring in the moat solemn meuner, their de-
termined adherence to those great principles which fur the
last fourteen months they have been labouring to enforce
and establish.—( hear, hear.) But, Sir, there is another
object we must not neglect. There is a duty also which we
owe to the authors of this measure—to those who brought
it forward in my opinion so honourably to themselves,
and who have with so much consi'tency and indefati-
gable zeal labroured iu carrying it through this 'and the
other House of Parliament.—(Hear, bear, hear.) Sir
if a *icier occasion lie thought it necessary to sanc-
tion the conduct of Government by approving

(LEFT STEAXINI.)

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, MAY 9.

Concluded from our Stcond Edition of Last Night.

Mc. JAMES begged to ask the Noble Lord whether
the public report, that the advice Ministers tendered to his
Majesty, which had occasioned their resignation, was to
create Peers, was a correct report'—(Cheers.)
Lord ALTHORP said, that he did not think himself
at liberty to state what the advice tendered to his Majesty
was.—( Hear, hear.)
Mr. JAMES begged to say that he had asked the
question for the sake of the public, but entertained suite dif-
ferent sentiments from the Right Hon. Baronet or Gallant
Colonel who had just spoken. He thought the most just and
constitutional advice which could have been tendered to
his Majesty, would have been to create any number of
Peers that might have been necessary to carry the Reform
Bill.--(Hear, hear.) He was aware that such
was not the opinion of the Anti-Ilefoaneit, but 1.0 pre-
vent a collision between the two Houses of Parliament—
(Cries of " Spoke, spoke—he had not uttered half a
dozen words.—(Laughter.)
The cries of " Spoke, spoke !" here became so lend that
what was further said by the Hon. Member could not be
heard.
Mr. DUNCOMBE hoped the Noble Lord (Member for
Devon) would persistinhis motion and the call of the House
of which be had kiven notice. It was necessary to see
whether there were any waverers in the House, and who
they were. The Noble Lord (the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer) would be guilty. of a breach of confidence, if
without his Majesty's permission, he told theru what ad-
vice it was he bad given ; hut lie had suid enough to satisfy
the county that it was to the effect that the Reform Bill