The Sun.
London, England, 1835-04-02 00:00:00

Mr. A. MURRAY presented a petition from Leith, pray-
ing for more Church accommodation for the people of Scot-
land. He said the people of that country who dissented from
the principles of the Church had done much with their own
money in the way of instruction, and he, as a churchman,
could not think that he would be justified in putting his hand
into their pockets for the purpose of increasing the establish-
ment.—( Cheers. )
Colonel SIBTHO RP presented petitions from the city of
Lincoln, Peterboro', and several other places, against the Bill
for regulating Ecclesiastical Courts. He. wished it to be
known that he gave up his motion for a Select Committee on
the subject, merely on account of the pressure of public bu-
siness ; also a petition from an inhabitant of Plymouth, praying
that he might be allowed to lay before the proper authorities a
new method of making stamps on dies, which in his opinion
would greatly reduce the expense the country was at present
put to.
Mr. BAINE S presented a petition from the working people
of a place in Yorkshire, against the Factory Regulation Bill
of 1833.
Sir E. KNATCHBULL presented a petition from the
licensed victuallers of Sittingbourne, Kent, for a reduction of
the license duty.
Several other petitions to the same effect wer• presented.
ADJOURNED DEBATE.

The order of the day having been read,
Sir JOHN CAMPBELL said he should adhere to the
compact entered into last night, that each Hon. Member
should, in the remarks which he thought fit to address to the
House, be as brief as possible, so that the important debate
in which they were engaged would that evening be brought to
a close, and he should altogether forego his right to address ,
the House on a matter which had already undergone so copious
a discussion, were it not that he felt it just that some Mem-
bers from that part of the United Kingdom with which he was
connected should have an opportunity of expressing their
opinions. As yet no representative of Scotland had addressed
the House, and on so vital a question it was proper
that the Members from all parts of the United Kingdom
should take part in the debate, and freely and boldly ex-
press their opinions. They were aware that he ( Sir John
Campbell) represented a body of constituents who yielded to
none in independence, in intelligence, and in liberality, and he
believed in the sentiments which he was about to express,
the great majority of his constituents, as well as his country-
men generally, concurred. The resolution of the Member for
Devonshire had his fullest approbation, and he thought that
upon its success mainly depended the future destinies of the
empire. He should begin by expressing an opinion which
might be at variance with those of Hon. Gentlemen on the
Opposition side of the House, namely, that he was in favour of
an union between Church and State. He though it would be dan-
gerous to trust to the voluntary principle; he thought it would
be improper to make religion like a marketable commodity, that
the supply should only equal the demand. He thought it a great
advantage to have a State religion, and he felt an establishment
and voluntary principle could not work harmoniously together.
That Establishment prevented the danger of fanaticism, and
the voluntary principle prevented the danger of apathy and in-
difference. With those sentiments, he respectfully and re-
verently approved of the Established Church in England,
Scotland, and with certain reductions even in Ireland. In
England the Established Church accorded with the reli-
gious sentiments of the great majority of the people, its
tendency was certainly most beneficial, and that being
to, he wished it to be untouched—he wished its revenues to
be untouched—but he thought the distribution of those re-
venues might be greatly improved.— ( Hear, hear.) Many
abuses ought to be reformed—pluralities ought to be abo-
lished—( Hear)—residence enforced ; with those amendments
he wished all the great objects of the establishment to be re-
garded; he wished the Church of England to remain respected
and revered ; he thought its revenues were not excessive,
and he wished them to remain untouched.—(Hear, hear.)
When he looked to the Established Church in his
own country, he must say that he entertained
sentiments of pride and exultation, for he believed that no