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in the recollection of their Lordships, that ia the old
House of Lords the gangways were found to be exceedingly
inconvenient, in consequence of the great number of person.;
that were present in both places, such an inconvenience should
be avoided in future. He trusted, therefere, that more space
would be allowed.
The Ei:l of ROSSLYN lamented that the Noble Lord
had not been a member of the Committee. He had no ob-
jection to the increase of the size of the House if it was the
pleasure of their Lordships. ,
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE thought it would be much
better to put up with the inconvenience of a crowded House for
a night .or two on particular occasions, than have a House of
such large dimensions as to render it impossible to hear a word.
Although the Committee had not thought it right to ix
either a maximum or a minimum of expense, yet that subject
had not escaped their attention, and he trusted that any
architect who sent in plans would consider and bear in
mind that expense would be a great governing principle in
the decision of the House.
The Earl of MA L M ESBURY said he should like to sec
more space allowed below the Throne for the accommoda-
tinn of their Lordships' sons.
Lord BROUGHAM quite agreed with his Noble
Friend (the Marquis of Lansdowne) that it would not
be convenient to enlarge the space, as it was very seldom
that their Lordships had a very full attendance.--
A large- room would, no doubt, look very splendid,. but it
would-be very inconvenient—they must remember that
that
House was net merely a Court of Parliament, but that it was also
a Court of Law, and a large house would be very inconvenient.
He trusted that the architects who turned their atten-
tion to the subject would study economy as much ;Is
possible, but yet lie trusted that they would not spoil ell
by trying to please the eye, and at the same time to spare
the pocket—he would much rather have a plain House, but
solid, than a gaudy House, with a great deal of tawdiness,
and no solidity.—( Hear, hear.) He saw that there were
to be from 110 to 120 rooms.—( Hear, hear.) Now, hO
thought that was rather too many. He had never ex-
perienced any inconvenience from having only one room;
and ho thought that many who were to have two, might
do very well with one. If the other House, which had maul
officers should require as many rooms, the building would be
like a town. _ _

Lord ROSSLYN said a few words, but in such a low tone
of voice as to be inaudible in the Gallery.
Lord MAL ME SBURYlwished:that there should be sub-.
cient space left near the throne to accommodate not 014,
the eldest soils of their Lordships, but also distinguished
foreigners.
The Earl of WICKLOW said if he understood the report
the objection woutd be remedied by the galleries which
were recommended in the report. The reason v4hy
the space was supposed not to be sufficient was that
so much of it would be recommended by the Members of the
House of Commons ; but according to the Report, it was
proposed to build a gallery capable of containing 100 Members,
of the House of Commons, which would leave a sufficient
space for the accommodation of such distinguished foreigners
as should wish to attend.
Lord KENNY() N recommended that the matter should be
referred back for the consideration of the Committee specially
appointed, as he thought it would be the most correct mode
of proceeding.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE concurred in the recom-
mendation of the Noble Lords.
After a few words from Lord MALMESBURY, Lord DEN'
MAX, and the Duke of WELLINGTON, the amendment Was
pressed by a Noble Lord to a division, and strangers
being ordered to withdraw, the House divided, when there
appeared—
For the Amendment
Against it
Majority
On our re-admission to the Gallery we found
The Earl of WICKLOW on his legs, suggesting that
some other place might be found for their Lordship! to
meet in before the commencement of next session. In%
s
had not yet found much inconvenience, yet in that so',
room, but now that the dog days were approaching he was afral"
some of their Lordships would find it exceedingly inconvenient.
The Marquis of WESTMEATH suggested that more win"
dows were necessary for the purpose of ventilating the House
than at present.
The Report was then agreed to, and ordered to be eorauld
nicated to his Majesty.
FOREIGN RELATIONS. -
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY wished to say a fes'
words respecting the Orders in Council. Though the Nevi,,°
Duke had withdrawn his motion no doubt from some PO'
dential motive. As the question was one of much import-
ance, he trusted some Noble Lord would bring on Or
discussion. He wished to ask the Noble Viscount (Mg'
bourne) who had come down to their Lordships' tieul
prepared for the discussion, whether these orders in Cowie'
were the result of an application from the Spanish Am'
bassador--( Hear, hear)—and, secondly, whether the perSo,e°9
who might embark under these orders would have IP
benefit of the Convention entered into by Lord Elliott.
Viscount MELBOURNE then answered that they
were issued in consequence of some applications from
Spain, and he thought the person who might enter into the OW
test under the orders in Council, would, as a matter of courget
have the benefit of the Convention.
Lord BROUGHAM hoped, if the Government interfered
at all, it would be in conjunction with the allies of France,
so that those contests between the old and new world would
be put an end to.
Lord MELBOURNE said that he believed it had been the
wish and desire of every Government by every means in their
power to bring about the arrangement to which his Noble Friend
had adverted, and such was the desire of the present
Government, and on such principles it would act.
The House then adjourned.

LIST OF THE MINORITY
Of 25 (Teller included).who voted against the payment of 7,6001
for finishing and altering the Military Chapel in Whitehall.
Bowring, Dr. Ciisborne, T. Thornley, Thomas
Buckingham, J. S. Gully, J. Trelawney, Sir W.
Buller, C. Hindley C. Tulk, Charles A.
Crawford, W. S. Maxwell', J. Wakley, Thomas
Dillwyn, L. W. Oliphant, L. %Villains, W.
Elphinstone, Howard Pease, J. Wood. Alderman
Ewart, W. Potter, It.
Fielden, J. Sheldon, E. It. C. TELLER.
Finn, W. F. Spiers, A. G. Warburton, H.