The Sun.
London, England, 1832-05-31 00:00:00

'of Radicalism. The company assembled coi,
sisted, without exception, of men eminently di..
tin guished for talent and conduct, and of higl.
consideration and weight in society. The revo-
lutionary faction might search in vain through
the three kingdoms to make up a meeting
which should, in the tenth degree, compete
with that assembled yesterday. The Anniver-
s try of this dinner has called forth an attem;:t
from the Radical Journals to prove that "if
there be one class of politicians to which Mr.
Pitt belongs more distinctly, completely, and
emphatically than another, it is the class of
friends to Parliamentary Reform," and that
" Mr. Pitt was by far the most eminent and
distinguished reformer that the last century pro
duced." It is somewhat remarkable in the first
place that this assertion should proceed from the
same party that is day after day contending for
the propriety and necessity of a large infusion of
Whig Reforming Peers into the Upper House,
for the purpose of counterbalancing the prepon-
derating numbers of Tory, Anti- Reforming,
Boroughmongering Peers introduced during Mr.
Pitt's Administrations. Bnt this en. passant.
The whole argument of the Radical Journalist
rests on the assumption that " Reform" means
nothing else, and can mean nothing else, than
Lord Grey's Reform Bill ; but can any senti-
ments ever delivered by Mr. Pitt be construed
into a recognition of such principles as those
contained in the present sweeping and revolu-
tionary measure ? So far from it, the whole
tenonr of his declarations respecting Reform goes
directly to condemn those dangerous and atrocious
principles, as is conclusively proved by the able ex-
position of our contemporary the .standard, given
in another column. We may further observe, that
when Mr. Pitt expressed himself favourable to
a change in the Parliamentary Representation he
was youthful, and had not yet been concerned in
the direction of public affairs. When he became
a man and a Minister he was enabled to view the
question in a truer light. and was far more stre.
nuous in his opposition to any change in tit
ancient Constitution than he had ever been it.
support of such change. But perhaps the most
important point to be considered is, that Mr,
Pitt was a Reformer only before the French re-
volution. After that event he was the most
prominent and most formidable among the op-
ponents of Reform, mainly on the ground that
the excitement produced in the public mind of
this country by the example of France rendered
any innovation highly inexpedient and dangerous.
A similar excitement has been produced in our
day by a similar cause, and it was in circum-
stances and times precisely analogous to the pre-
sent that Mr. Pitt declared he not only would not
concur in, but would strenuously resist, any attempt
to introduce changes into the British Constitu-
tion. Let us then hear no more of the baseless
assertion that Mr. Pitt was a Reformer. In no
sense ca❑ he be strictly said to have been a Re•
former, and least of all in the sense in which that
term is taken at the present moment.—lllorn.Post.
While some purblind individuals with an ob-
stinacy belonging only to the most ludicrously
impenetrable stupidity, were celebrating the
birthday of the Reformer Pitt by explosions of
Anti-Reform fanaticism, the House of Lords
were performing the enlightened and honourable
task of disfranchising corrupt and nomination
boroughs. Schedules A and B were passed
with little opposition, and that little kiirly met by
unanswerable facts aid convincing arguments,.
The report is to be brought up on Friday, and
we suppose before the middle of next week the
Reform Bill will be the law of the land: for we
cannot participate in the fears expressed by some
of our contemporaries, that the Anti-Reformers
intend to rally and destroy the Bill by a sur-
prise. Considering the implied understanding
existing in the House, and the pledged faith be-
tween competent parties out of the House, it is
all but impossible to conceive such a political,
such a moral degradation, as the resort to a con-
temptible trick in order to do—what ?—not to
upset a Cabinet, but to involve a whole nation
in a sea of universal trouble, and of desperate
indignation. There may be some persons so
senseless, others so wicked, as to incur, for mere
selfish objects, the horrors of civil war ; but we
will not believe, till conviction is forced upon
us, that the House of Lords contains any Mem-
bers capable of a crime at once so atrocious and
so useless.— Times.
Lord Munster, it will be seen, entered last
night into something which was meant to be un-
derstood as an explanation of his conduct in the
occurrences which occasioned the late suspension
of Lord Grey's Administration. We confess
we do not see, though many words are used,
that much is said, or anything explained. How-
ever, the matter had better be suffered to drop.
It would be the most threatening symptom at-
tending the permanence of the Monarchy, if it
were understood that persons in Lord Munster's
situation were allowed to sway the councils of
State, or in any way affect the movements of
Government. A century at least should be suf-
fered to elapse before it should be made known
by any public speech or act, that there was such
a person as Lord Munster in existence. Then,
when something of antiquity was added to the
title, and the obscurity of years cast over its
origin, the possessor, if otherwise unobjection-
able, might take his place and station in society
without remark : this cannot be the case at pre-
sent.— Times.
The Court is not what it ought to be—that
is the fact ; nor do we deem that Lord Grey
has yet shown himself a person altogether
qualified for dealing with the meanness, the
vindictiveness,—the frivolous and vulgar,
but sly and double-tongued, obduracy,—the
insolence, and narrowness, and inveterate hatred
of all popular institutions,—which prevail in
certain circles of that artificial and selfish world.
No man, indeed, who feels for the honour of a
liberal Government, could wish the head of it,
whether Lord Grey, Lord Brougham, or Lord

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to meet a paltry and miserable policy
Iyltdhe7itc'es resembling its own. It is not because
others may be vindictive or dishonest that Lord
Grey ought to become so, even did his own
preservation and that of his Ministry depend
upon his adoption of those vices. But Lord
Grey
has been by far too tolerant ; he has sub-
'pitted with a patience, which some have called
servility,
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Noble Earls disregard of offences against his
proper
dignity, he has gone, as his best friends
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think, too far—a class of offences by which the
public interest is assailed through him, and the
ands
cause of Reform, the first of public blessings, very
gravely and essentially embarassed. The cow-
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Household
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an a ffLairor ofd Greytate.
Iliiimw Whigs—Lord of the
Grenvilleself—condemned the 'Tory childishness of
Lord Liverpool and his faction, who affirmed
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that high offices, with extensive patronage, all
paid and supported from the public treasure,
should be filled at the irresponsible desire of the

reigning Sovereign. The Whigs establishc
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does Lord Grey now abandon that lofty and
honourable ground ? Lord Grenville, a great
authority in law and constitution, was not a man
to take up lightly a capricious theory, and aer
upon it as one having solid principles for its
fUundation. Why, then, we repeat, is Lot()
Grey now less tenacious of a living principle of
British Government than in the year 1812
Why should the Noble Earl be lorded over by
any intrusive and tormenting despotism which
in other days he would have scorned ?
Would Mr. Pitt have remained Minister of
r George 111. for one hour, had that Monarch,
so resolute and reasonable until disease af-
flicted him, upheld Queen Charlotte (much as he
esteemed her) in attempts to thwart and vex the
course of his Majesty's Government? Why
should not Lord Howe's place as Queen's
Chamberlain be at once conferred upon some
upright friend of the Administration ? If Colo-
nel Fox, a strenuous Reformer, was not restored
to the place of equery which he had resigned
with so much proper feeling, why should Colo-
nel Trench, who, though a respectable gentle-
man, is a decided and constant opponent of Re-
form, be suffered to retain a similar office ?
Again, as we said on Tuesday, Messrs. Pepys
and Williams, who resigned their offices of
Queen's Attorney and Solicitor-General from a
becoming sympathy with Lord Grey, were, under
Tory influence permitted to go about their busi-
ness ; and under the same influence, and with-1
out the slightest regard to the interests or move-
ments of Lord Grey's Government, Messrs.
Taddy and Merewether, the latter gentleman a
friend of Lord Howe, have actually superseded
the Whig Law officers! Had Lord Grey been
kicked, he could hardly have been more insulted.
Now what are the inferences drawn from such ma-
festations of defective povier, or of obsequious
temper, in Lord Grey ? It is said in all quar-
ters that he has but half, if so much as half; re-
gained the Royal confidence. It is said that the
King prefers her Majesty's secret and anti-Re-
form advisers to his own Ministers, who are
open, acknowledged, and responsible to the laws.
For this there is no cure, but in Lord Grey's
assumption of a more elevated attitude. If he
seems to be ‘s eak, he will soon become so. In-
trigue can be opposed no otherwise than by de-
cision. The Household must be placed upon a
right footing ; nor can Lord Grey with any
security stop there. The objection, silly as it
was, to making Peers for the specific purpose of
carrying the Reform Bill, can now exist no
longer. The Bill, we may say, is carried. There
can therefore be no objection in policy or prece-
dent to a creation of Peers for the general purpose
of manifesting a sympathy with the House of Com-
mons and the nation, and supporting that Go.
vernment which is the choice of both. If Lord
Grey take not this step, the day which passes the
Reform Bill will be nearly the last of his power.
The Court, which loves him not, nor any of his
colleagues, will imagine that the so'e bond between
Lord Grey and the people of England is the
Reform Bill. It will reckon on the facility of
sending him then adrift, and calling in a " Con-
servative" party to administer a constitution, with
which it can never harmonize. This, we predict,
will inevitably happen, unless Lord Grey reforms
Peers as well as Comtnons, and infuses some
liberality into their Lordships' house. That he
should do so, is the desire of the country, its
expectation, its undoubted right. Lord Grey
cannot, with any decency, regard what might be
commodious for himself alone. He has got into
partnership with the British nation, and is the
trustee of our prosperity.—Times.
Among the proceedings of the House of
Lords, last night, will be found- an attempt at
explanation on the part of the Earl of Munster,
of his conduct upon the Reform Bill, and a de-
nial of his having interfered to prevent his Ma-
jesty from pursuing any line of conduct which
might seem best to him. His Lordship is a
Peer of the Reahn, and his assertion that he d

not employ the influence which he has with,
and the facilities of access to, his Majesty, which
he enjoys, must, we presume, be received with
as much credit as other men's oaths. It appears,
however, that if his Lordship has been aspersed
and calumniated, as he says he has, it was not
wholly without some ground that he has
been thus wantonly attacked ; for although
his Lordship is a Reformer, he is not a
Reformer in the spirit of the Bill. He
would go hand-in-hand with Lords Harrowby
and Wharncliffe, and breakfast, dine, and sup
on their milk-and-water measure of Reform ; but
he has no appetite for the more plain, solid, and
nourishing food which Lord Grey and the people
of England have selected, and are determined
to feast upon. Such being his Lordship's sen-
timents, and his Lordship being besides the
eldest son of the King, is it to be wondered at
that the public should have fallen into the
mistake that what was reported of his interfe-
rence was true ? Was it not natural for them to
suppose that opportunities, unsought for by
either, would occur for discussing the principles
of the Reform Bill, and that these opportunities
would not pass without a statement on the part
of the Noble Lord of his opposition to the Bill,
and which statement might influence his Majesty?
His Lordship says he did not influence,or attempt
to influence, his Majesty, although he held opini-
ons upon the Bill in common with its most inve-
terate enemies : but the fact is too well known

that his Majesty was influenced by some one—
for he, unfortunately for his fame, changed his
mindin three short months—and if he was not

influenced by the Earl of Munster, by whom was
the pernicious counsel which has so obscured
the King's fame administered ? Can the Earl
of Munster tell ? If he would, it would do
more to gain credit for his explanation, than all
that he asserted last night, with so much appa-
rent candour and earnestness. It would be un-
fair, perhaps, to draw any inference respecting
the degree of credit due to the Noble Earl's

statement from the conduct of Lord Grey ; but
it is, nevertheless, not wholly unworthy of re-
mark, that as soon as his Lordship had com-
menced his explanation, Earl Grey quitted the
House !—Morning Advertiser.

MONTGOMERY'S NEW POEM.—The public
are respectfully informed, that "THE MESSIAH," a Poem,
in Six Books, by the Author of " The Omnipresence of
the Deity," (dedicated, by permission, to her Majesty,)
will appear to-morrow ; and may be ordered of all Book-
sellers in town and country.
According to the late census the female ex-
ceeds the male population of the town of Reading by nearly
1,200.
The fashionable world will lose one of its
most brilliant ornaments by the departure of the amiable
Duchess de DINO @lee Princess de COURLANDE) who
leaves town on Monday next for Paris.
Notwithstanding the inclemency of the wea-
ther for some time past, a hive. of bees, belonging to a
4entleman at Viewforth, in the neighbourhood of this city,
swarmed on Friday last, which is believed to be the first
of the season. It weighed nearly 711bs. which it about
double the weight of an ordinary swarm.