The Sun.
London, England, 1832-06-18 00:00:00

GUILDHALL.

Mrs. Roberts, a widow lady, of Surrey-street,
Strand, was charged with illegally detaining a 1001.
bill. She received the bill, which was due on the
15th instant, from a gentleman in April, and gave
it to a person named Gunson for discount, she with-
holding her indorsement till she got the money.
The person who had received a notice to discount
did so, but retained the money, and Alderman Brown
said that no criminal charge could be made against
him, as the notice only stated that he was to get
the bill discounted. Before the bill became due the
acceptor became a bankrupt, and on its being pre-
sented for payment by Mr. Scholefield, a ware-
houseman, at the bankrupt's house, a person there
handed it to Mrs. Roberts, who retained it. For
this she was given into custody for a felony. Mr.
Scholefield said he received the bill in payment for
some wine, from Mr. Sutcliffe, a warehousetnan of
Clement's-court, Milton•strect. The wine, how-
ever, was not to be delivered till the bill was paid.
Mr. Sutcliffe said the bill came into his hands in
the course of business. He gave 50/. worth of
silk and 49/. for the bill, to a person named Needle,
who applied to have it discounted for Gunson,
whom he did not know.
Mrs. Roberts said the bill had been stolen from
from her, and she thought she had a right to it when
she saw it.

Mr. Alderman HUGHES said that as Mr. Schole-
field had not delivered the vine, he would be no
loser by the detention of the bill.
Mr. Scholefield said such was the case, and he
should not press the charge.
Mr. Alderman HUGHES asked Mr. Sutcliffe if he
would ?—On his repiying in the negative, Mrs.
Roberts was liberated.

The question of law, as to which party has a right
:o the bill, must now be settled by another tribunal,

BO 117- STREET.

Mr... Tames Mathews, formerly a military officer,
and subsequently a clerk in the Bank of England,
was charged by several tavern and hotel-keepers,
with obtaining from them certain good dinners,
suppers, wine, &c., for himself, his lady, and two
daughters, under false representations. The pro-
prietors of Serle's Coffee-house, in Carey-street, and
of the Hole-in-the-Wall, in Chancery-lane, &c.,
at-
tended. The proprietor of Serle's Coffee-house said,
that the prisoner came on Saturday week to his
house, and took up his residence, with his wife and
two daughters. He gave a reference, and said that
they should remain in the house only a night or two,
and he had no occasion to send for his luggage. On
Sunday the dinner came to between one and two
pounds, and on Monday, when urged to pay his
bill, he said he was going into the City to receive
money, and would pay it on his return. The bill
amounted to nearly six pounds on the Tuesday, and
then he made some further excuse for not paying,
but he was finally ejected, with his family. Within
an hour, however, he established himself with his
family at the Hole-in-the-Wall, Chancery-lane, and
played the same game as before, and was given into
custody.

The prisoner, a man of gentlemanly appearance,
who wore French kid gloves, and his wife and
daughters, who were attired in black silk, and had
a very imposing appearance, were all a good deal
agitated. He told a tale in which he portrayed
most " moving accidents by flood and field." He
bad fought for his country, and was at the storming
of Cadiz. He lost his situation in the Bank of
England in consequence of an execution being ille-
gally issued against his property and person. He
was very much embarrassed, but he intended to pay
the debts which he had contracted when he received
money.
Mr. Missnum, said it was hard upon innkeepers
to be" diddled" out of their property by such dis-
honest means; they had given credit without taking
the necessary means of inquiring into the character
and circumstances of the accused, and must take
the consequence. If they thought proper they might
indict the accused at the Sessions.
The accused was set at liberty.
John Donovan was charged by George Colly with
exposing unstamped penny publications for sale in
the Strand. Colly proved that the defendant had
the publications iu his hand, he had no doubt, for
sale, though he did not see him offer them for sale.
He admitted that since August he had convicted, by
his evidence, about seventy persons of the like of-
fence, and had received one pound from the Stamp
Office for each conviction. He had been in the po-
lice, but was not discharged for misconduct—ha re-
signed. The defendant called a witness, who swore
that the papers were not exposed for sale ; the de-
fendant carried them under his arm wrapped in paper.
Mr. MINSHULL said he disliked informers receiv-
ing penalties, but thought there could be no doubt
the defendant intended to sell the papers. He would
sentence him to one month's imprisonment instead
of three, which the law allowed.

The cholera has made its appearance amongst
the 99th Reserve, which relieved the 12th Regiment in
this town yesterday se'nnight. Sergeant CUNNINGHAM
was seized with cholera on Sunday morning, and notwith-
standing immediate medical attendance, expired before
four in the evening.—Drogheda Journal.
SAXE-MEININGEN.-The town of Saxe-
Meiningen is situated on the right bank of the Warre,
beautifully ernboeomed in hills ; it is rather handsomely
built, and is poetically called the City of the Harp. The
population of the whole state is about 20,000 souls, its
revenue 30,0001. and as a Member of the German Confe-
deration, it has 1-sth of a vote. 1 gathered this impor-
tant statistical knowledge from the Court Almanack.
What a ridiculous " spectacle pohtique" do these little
petty German states present, with their standing armies
and all the attirail of a Court. Here is the Duchy of
Saxe-Meiningen--its whole population is inferior to a inode-
rately sized English town, and its entire revenue consider-
ably less than the pin-money of our QUEEN. Such is
the fact ; an English town, considered unworthy of being
represented in Parliament, has double the population, and
centuplo the wealth and intelligence of the Duchy of
Saxe-Meiningen, that has given to us a QexeN who ha.
shown so much elevated contempt for our Manchesters
and Birminghams. An English hunter would gallop
round its territory in an hour ; an English nobleman
must be a skilful financier to subsist on its paltry revenue
without running into debt.—Monthly Magazine. [lt
should be added that the Duke of Saxs-MEININGEN is the
owner of the principal inns in the town, the nominal
keepers of which render him an account of the profits.
Hence the Duke has obtained the title of "Le Grand
Auberspiste."]

The Earl of WICKLOW presented a petition from
fifty-four Magistrates of King's County, in favour of the
above Bill; also a similar petition from Parsons Town.._.
Laid sin the table.
On the motion of the NOBLE EARL the Bill went
through a Committee, and was reported without amend.
meat.
MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS.

Ten private Bills were brought up from the Commons.

TITHES.

Lord KING presented a petition from several agricul.
tural parishes in Cornwall. The petitioners prayed for a
better and less pernicious distribution of that part of the
public revenue, as he was glad to see they called it, known
by the name of Church property. He was happy to see
arising amidst the people a better notion than they used
to have of the nature of what was called Church property.
They now began to understand that the clergy were nut
the church, that it was the congregation made the
church, and that the clergy were only its ministers. They
saw, therefore, that the tithes were not clerical but
public property. He was tempted to ask what hail
become of the Tithe Composition Bill, which had
after much delay pissed that House ? Had its authors
found out: that it was perfectly futile, and that now it
would not even serve the purpose of making the people
believe they meant to do son ething ? The Reform
Bill was now passed, and be hoped to see im-
provement in the Church as well as in everything else.
He contended that the revenues of the Church were as
much public property as the revenues from which the Mi-
nisters of State were paid, and was as much under the
control of Parliament. He had, on several occasions,
shown how grossly it was mismanaged, and what in-
justice was done to the clergy, who really did all the work.
He had before mentioned a case at Exeter, and a case in
Oxfordshire, of a very gross description ; but he had now
one to mention as occurring in the West of England. There
was a living there, near Yeovil, the great tithes of which
belonged to a Prebendary of Lincoln. They yielded him
6001. or 9001., and he paid the perpetual curate 301.
Lord KING presented a petition from the Roman Ca-
tholics of a town in the county of Wexford to the same
effect.

The whole House resolved itself into a Committee upon
the Act for Building New Churches.
The Bishop of LONDON proposed a verbal amend-
ment in the Committee, which was agreed to, and the
Report ordered to be brought up to-morrow.
The Bishop of BRISTOL presented a petition from the
inhabitants of Sunderland in favour of the Sunderland
Wet Dock Bill.

On the motion that the Scotch Exchequer Bill be read
a third time, _

Toe Duke of BUCCLEUCH said that he remained of
opinion that the abolishing of this Court would nut be
for the benefit of the public. He had no objection to
the calling in of the Sessions Judges occasionally ; but to
put the business of this Court entirely in their hands
would be a very different thing and injurious to the pub-
lic. He proposed that the Court should not be abolished,
but that upon the death of the present Chief Baron
a successor to him should not be appointed, and
that his duties should devolve on the remaining
Barons. In this way, a saving of 6,0001. a year would
be effected. The Noble Duke, with these observations,
submitted certain amendments; all of which, after a few
words from the other side of the House, by Lurd Rosebery,
and likewise a few sentences from the Lord Chancellor,
were negatived without a division.

The Bill was then read a third time and pased.—Ad-
journed.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Mr. R. GORDON took the oaths and his seat for
Cricklade, as did Mr. Labouchere for Taunton, both of
those Hon. Members having vacated their seats in conse-
quence of their having been appointed, the former to the
India Board and the latter to the Admiralty Board.
On the motion of Mr. E. ELLICE a new writ was or-
dered for high Wycombe, in the room of Sir Thomas
Baring, who bas accepted the Chiltern Hundreds.

Mr: LITTLETON presented a petition from the free-
holders, &c. of the Staffordshire Potteries, in favour of
the Birmingham and London Railway Bill.
Sir G.• SKIPWITH moved that the amendments to
the Birmingham and London Railway Bill be read a se-
cond time.

Lord CLIVE referred to a petition which he had on a
former night presented from the Countess of Bridgewater
and Lords Brownlow and Northampton, praying to be
heard before a Committee of Appeal against the Bill; and
he moved as an amendment that a Committee of Appeal
be appointed to examine the allegations of that petition.
Sir G. SKIPWITH, in reply, opposed the amendment,
and contended that the Committee had acted with perfect
fairness, and had attentivly heard every complainant who
had come before them. If the Noble Lord persisted in
his motion, be must take the sense of the House upon it.
The Marquis of CHANDOS thought this question
could not be prevented from going to a Committee of Ap-
peal, as in his opinion the plan was not a bona fide one.
Mr. LAWLEY thought there was not the least ground
for the motion of the Noble Lord. In his opinion, far
better grounds than those now before the House ought to
be brought forward previous to the House taking so strong
a step as that proposed by the Noble Lord. The present
Committee bad sat for 21 days, and had given the subject
their best attention.

Mr. W. WYNN would be extremely sorry to throw
any obstacles in the way of the passing of this Bill, con-
sidering it a measure of the highest importance and of the
greatest benefit to the country ; but he thought the Stand-
ing Orders of the House should be attended to. He did
not, however, see any benefit that would result from an
Appeal Committee.
Sir JOAN WROTTESLEY said that there was no un-
fairness whatever charged against the Committee to whom
this Bill had been referred ; and he thought, therefore,
the Noble Lord was askinga great deal too touch when he
required the appointment of an Appeal Committee.
Mr. C. PELHAM supported the motion.
Mr. LITTLETON said he was the author of the
resolutions which first established Committees of Appeal;
but such Committees had never been established for the
purpose of revising such insignificant alterations as were
contemplated by the amendments to this Bill. The pro-
per course to be pursued, as he conceived, was, to make
amendments on the third reading, if the Noble Lord
thought proper.

Lord GENE, in consequence of the opposition, with-
drew his amendulents.

Lord CLIVE then proposed a clause for the purpose of
confining the company to the level they originally proposed.
The Marquess of CHANDOS seconded the motion,
Which was supported by Mr. C. W. WYNN, and op-
posed by Sir J. WROTTESLEY and Mr. LITTLETON.
The gallery was then cleared for a division, but none
took place, the clause, as we understood, being withdrawn.
Mr. O'CONNELL presented petitions from the city 01
Waterford, and from one of the national political unions,
representing that the franchise under the Ministerial
.Bill
for Ireland would be lower than at present, and claiming
a larger share in the representation.
Mr. PRAED took that opportunity of observing upon
the claim of the Hon. Member for Waterford, for 176
Members for Ireland, on the combined basis of population
and revenue, was monstrously exaggerated, and founded on
a calculation more absurd than any which had ever been
submitted to the House.
Mr. PETRE begged leave to ask whether the Hon.
.Member for Waterford had stated on a previous occasion
that the English Catholics before the passing of the Relief

Sir R. PEEL understood the Honourable Member for
Waterford to have stated that the English Catholics would
have been content with being made justices of the peace.
He (Sir R. Peel) might not be so eloquent as the Hon.
and 'Learned Member in his taunts, but he hoped they
would not prevent the English Members from doing their
duty. The Hon. and Learned Member spoke of the ragged,
shirtless beings; was that the way he spoke of the 40s. free-
holders of Ireland ? He hoped that every one of the
forty-shilling freeholders entertained more enlarged no-
tions of civil and religious liberty than the Honourable and
Learned Member.

Mr. O'CoN)TELL and Sir R. PEEL rnutirdly explained.

After some observations from Mr. PAAND and Mr.
11(TTHVEN, tbe petition was brought up, and ordertd to be
printed.

- Mr. O'CONNELL then presented a petition from the
Sheffield Political Union, praying that as comprehensive a
measure of Reform might be granted to Ireland as had been
given to England. The Hon. Member should consider him-
self tarnished in accepting the highest office under theßritish
Crown, if it was to be accepted on condition of relin-
quishing the advocacy of civil and religious liberty.
(LEFT SITTING.)

MANCHESTER, JUNE 17.

DREADFUL AFFRAY WITH THE ORANGEMEN.-

SEVERAL PERSONS WOUNDED.

This town was thrown into the greatest state of alarm,
in consequence of an affray between two parties of Irish,
which is likely to lead to the loss of more lives than one.
It appears, that an Orange procession was ridiculed, while
accompanying a funeral,when high words ensued ; one party
of Irish was determined not to permit them to proceed, while
the Orangemen were equally resolute, and being provided
with arms, tired upon several people, five of whom are
seriously injured. A ma❑ and girl I have seen going to
the Hospital as well as some military officers who are on
the spot—and report says, many others are taken away
by their friends. By to-morrow's post I will send you
further particulars.

, -
RS. The affray has just oceured or I should have
written more fully.