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4111 E SUN., LONDON, SATURIJAYT SFPTEAIri ER 5, 1835.
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French journals of Thursday. A report prevailed in
,'aril of the discovery by the Police of another infernal
nu \chine at Versailles, with which the KING VMS to
h .e been killed during,, the celebration of the.fete of
St.:cloths.

PARLIAMENTARY-
SUMMARY.

In the Lorws' yesterday,
on the motion of Lord MELBOURNE,
the amendments made -by, the Cominons on the MuniCipal
•lteform Bill were the subject of discussion. It will be seen
ihat majorities of their Lordships' House, contrary to expecta-
tion, determined upon the rejection of reach of the measure,
even as modified by the Commons, in order to meet their
r.greement. They decided against three of the propositions
deemed necessary to the efileiency of the Bill by the Commons
et' England :—.the vesting. the Nomination of Justices of the
Peace in Town Count:US, and not lathe Crown, as the Lords
would have it ;—the PI,Me rcs.,,eCting the division of bo-
r...tighs ;—and klm the settlement of the boundaries of boroughs
51i0.,41;1 uot he•kft to irresponsible revising barristers, but that
the regulations proposed by them should be sanctionedl3y the
King in Council, • 13'111111er proceedings on the Bill were de-
ferred till this day. The ,Dublin Police Bill, after some inte-
resting discussion, was rejected. The Report on the Bribery
Indeninity Bill Kai also rejected. The Report on the Irish
Pecyi; Brli was ordered to be received this day. The Work-
hpuses and the charities Commission Bill, were passed.
The §hantkon Navigation Bill went through Committee; 'the
'tithes instalment Suspension Bill was read a first time ; and
zeveral other Bills were advanced a stage. Lord 11(1417CMAM
called the attention of the' House to certain returns, showing
the effects of chlriger.i RecPrnAtti:4; I.N:hie..h were ordered to
he kJer;i4ii) eulogised' the conduct of the Law
'ConiniiFsAners, aha gave uotieo that next session ha should
hiring the subject of their report under consideration.
hi the COMMONS' General PALMER gave notice of his in-
kention on Monday to present a petition T2i4tiye t,o, the con-
c.f Sir Pr.TFtt tuid others, towards a female
lunatic now cOnirded In Bethelem Hospital. A new writ for
the torough of Dungarvan, in the room of Mr, Sarge4nt
O'LOGIILEN, who had accepted the offive ;,-,f Attorney-Gene-
ral fec.i:elfl94, 114 i..)-fdhlq. c;eicer from whose cus-
.4. N^TiSIC,: *LEAN, the witness before General DAR-
LING'S Committee, had escaped, was examined at the bar.
hipiiti►i
riFF F7i; elicited. The ill'PßOPl.ehtii to the
t;isllßebtS Oeettail'ctl 13il 'were aueocl to. she Tithes
Instalment Suspension 1);11, anti also the instruments of
Sasine (Scotland) Bill were passed. ilutkm 8 all yii><is paid
tpl and qpendpd hy, ftei:p,r4 Vornmission were ordered,
pp the ITiptipn of 'Mr. C. BOLLER. On certain resolutions
iiwygil by Mr. HOME, referring to the loan recently con-
tracte4 hRIP
Griiverntnent. a lenuthehed flll'al'iA 0444510 n
notice fart er in this
place. Mr. HOME gave notice of several measures which he
took place Whia we liaYe not roilln tO
i4oFirled t,O introduce early next Session. Several petitions
were Pie'g*MO, 4nliqq? fPfoe

TAMWORTH.

GRAND DINNER TO SIR R. PEEL, AT TAM-

NORTH,-STAFFORDSHIRE, LAST NIGHT.
( From the Morning Advertiser.)

Last evening an entertainment, distinguished as well for
its splendour as good taste, was liven to. Sir R. Peel, at the
Town-hall, Tamworth, by the most influential inhabitants of
Tani worth, Litchfield; Burton, Birmingham, and of the coun-
ties adjacent to those places. About 200 of those gentlemen
sat down to dinner between six and seven o'clock, which vas
given as a proof of the high estimation in which the charac-
ter of Sir Robert is held as a statesman and as a neighbour,
and to show to the country that the electors of Tamworth,
and the gentlemen present, -were proud of having him for
their repr::sentathe,. and that they considered him the leader
in the Conservative Cause. ft was stated to us, on the best
authority, that at least one hundr,d of the most respectable
inhabitants of Birmingham could not, be accommodated with
tickets ; and that as much as 100!. were offered fur ten tickets,
and that if there were room in the Town-hall upwards of five
hundred persons of influence would have met together on the
occasion.

The Chair was taken by WILLIAM PHILIP INGE, Esq., of
Thorpe. The Vice-Chairman was TnomAs BRAMALL, the
Bailiff of Tamworth.

Among the company we observed Mr. Dugdale, sen., Mr.
Dugdale,- M.P., General Dyott, Col. Dickenson, Hon. Mr.
Curzon, Mr. Wm. Peel, Mr. Wolferston, Mr. Molt, Mr.
Shaw, Major Bamford, Mr. Cheslyn, Mr.• Stokes; Reverends,
Mr. Buick, Mr. Pidduck, Mr. Wooley, Mr. Gresley, Dr.
Lloyd, Mr. Evezard, Gco. Inge, R. C. Savage, W. Met-
calfe, Thomas Dickenson, Mr. Eschelaz, T. Bonney, 'W.
Lloyd, Neale Mitchell, Mr. Buekeridge, Ur. Lally, and C.
lhowson, besides several other gentlemen resident in the
places before mentioned.
During the whole of the day, which was a most beautiful
one, Tamworth presented a very animated scene, and the
ritig,rig of the bells tended very much to enliven it.
Sir Robert arrived in town, from London, in the morning,
and on his approach to the town, and on entering the dining-
room, was received with loud and general cheers. Notwith-
standing the fatigues of a long and laborious Session, he ap-
peared to erkloy robust health, and certainly was in the highest
is isi4?. 1
The dinner, which consisted of every delicacy that the sea-
son could afford, was served up in a style that the most inve-
'orate and fastidious gournd could not grumble at. This im-
portant part of the proceeditigA was under the management of
Miss Lucas, of the Q4siie Inn.

The cukriku.or (the cloth having. been removed) rose
-{;(1 fuvposett " The King, God bless him."—(Three
times three.)

" God save the Ring" was then sung, and the company
loudly cheered Ahe delivery of the words—
" Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks."
The CHAIRMAN then proposed--" Our excellent Queen,"
which toast was also greeted with three times three.
RPAg--(4 Hail smiling morn...
The next toast was—" The Princess Victoria and the rest
of the Rep' Family ;" which was received in the same loyal
aTul at*ctionate manner.

Song.—" Here's a health to all good Lasses."
The CHAIRMAN 000 said—Coulomb, let me now propose
to you 441 th of the Right Hon. Sir Robert Peel, Bart.
—Oheers.) In mentioning the name of this highly distin-
gtushed inclividu4l I feel that no words of mine can do jus-
tice to his exalted character. His extensive knowledge—his
great application—his sound judgment and calm discretion
are acknowledged by all, even by his political opponents.—
( Loud cheers.) All respect his honesty and integrity—all
admire the brilliancy of his talents. I will not attempt to
enumerate them, for his superior abilities are well known to
the British nation, and they appreciate the important services
he has rendered. No man ever received so many marks of
approbation as this consistent statesman. All the marks of
respect that were offered were not confined to his public cha-
racter, for as a good friend and kind neighbour he is equally
entitled to esteem. I will not say ono word more, but merely
to wish " Health and long life to Sir Robert Peel."--(Up-
standing, with Wee times three, and cries of " Quo
'
more.") deer

Sir ROBERT PEEL then rose amidst t'''est tremendous cheer-
ing, and spoke to the following effect ;—gentlemen, it would
have been to me a most severe tliaappOntment and mortifica-
tion, if any circumstances, 'kit csacurred to prevent me fulfill-
ing the engaptillqlt I had placedemyself, to meet
you this 04Y.--(Pheers-.) Gentlemen, circumstances, over
which po control, might have called me away, hnd the
public duties which I had to fulfil might have prevented me
from fulfilling my engagement with you, hut I doubt not that
if those duties were of importance to the nation, . you would
have accepted them as ftp toscnse, and permitted me to forego.
the aetirafaatipt cf tunetinss you here, in order that I might
Wend Yay pubiic duties in Parliament or elsewhere. I know
ydgr forlaearanep, and it would be a great personal sacrifice to
me, my public duties interfered with my attendance here on
this occasion. In the first place, I have to acknowledge the
undivided attention of this assembly, and to thank them for the
enthusiastic manner in which the proposal that my health
should be pledged was received, It is impossible for me to
address you from this place, without being reminded of the
POPIOOII €4lld Of the circumstances under which I addressed
many of you here now, not many months ago. Circumstances
were different then from what they arc now. On the last time
that I addressed you, I was in the situation of the First Minister
of the Monarch of this essuntry.—( Cheers.) I then stood in
the highest and most honourable situation that human ambition
can attain or aspire to. I was then honoured with the confi-
dence of a benevolent Sovereign. I then presided over the
councils of one of the most celebrated and powerful nations on
earth, I am now in a diffe'rent situation. I am descended
from the proud eminence upon which I was placed, and find
myself now in the rank of my fellow-citizens. When last I
appeared amongst you, I entered into the details of my eleva-
tion, and I told you• that I had reached the eminence, alluded
to by no base artifice or intrigue; and I now think I can say,
that I have descended from it with no discredit or dishonour
to Myself,—(Cheers.) I accepted the appointment on the
call of the Sovereign of this country, who, by his preroga-
tive, has the right of choosing Ministers to advise with,
and who are responsible for that advice. I resigned office
when I saw that I could not conduct the affars of the
country consistently with the acknowledged principles of the
constitution. My colleagues and myself avowed that prin-
ciples against the established practice of the constitution were
not tenable, arid we assented to,the other principle, that oppo-
sition to a majority of the House of Commons would establish
a dangerous precedent. I and my colleagues bad no wish to
have our names connected with the establishment of such a
precedent, We therefore properly resolved on resigning the
offices our Sovereign had been pleased to confer on us. When
I last addressed you in this room, I entertained the confident
expectation, and though that expectation has been disappoint-
ed, f would still entertain it, and I believe that we have still
shalt
resteitial obfesuscuccecsess.s--r.u(i,Loaundd cthheaetrs.) My
we
shouldfounded on the honour, integrity, and long experienee of pub-
b e
l ihavee f is
thatbec "
ise
i a
pub-
lic life of the man of whom I had the honour of being a
cells agile.--( alizei,a,) However, the expectation of being
enabled to carry measures which would be practically useful
and satisfactory to the public, was founded on the belief that
the opposition in the House of Commons was not found non-
nected by any bond of public opinion, by any band of similar
principles, or by any bond of prisiattl attachment to each other
—4 4 laugh)—whit h eoetld put we tin my guard, or make me
Goneeive that they would afterwa'rds unite in opposition to
the Government over which I presided. I have since found that
I gave them greater credit for sincerity than they deierved. I
now Lind that I have relied too much as to the truth of the
language with which they have spoken of each othetas- ( Hear,
hear.) I really thought, frotpbat f4d :wen, that they had
itleati§ pf what
peeh other, 4nd tlickt, therefore, I was
right in trusting to the accuracy of their information.---.( Cheers
and laughter.) But it appears that I have bean deceived, and
f be to pftif you to a free speech from the Throne as to
what- was stated then by the Government of his Majesty,
ivhich was composed of many of the individuals then in office,
and who then advised his Majesty to make the following de-
claration ;—" Put f haw aear4 with 6044 cif ileep.regret
and jut 0111:11;iariC of''att.eppts to excite the
penple of Irclaud to deroarld a repeal of the Lcgi4latico
Vgi2l." f` TO the.practittes which haY(2 bQ@l cod to pre-'.
animosity be-
bated flits iipirit
ciPaPetiO° to tilF. Oate' 740 14140:ti tiiLtPust unri _ace
tyVgdn' ftarp'ip cal the two e?uritrip,..--
. are chiefly to be attri-
. t • ....elation, which, though for the pre-
sent in a great degree controlled by the power of the law, has
been but ten perceptible in many places."—( Cheers.) The
party to whom this applied was not more complimentary than
those who had thus described him.—( Hear, hear.) One month
before the party came into office he addressed this letter to
Lord Duncannon—" You belong to the Whigs; and after
four years of the most initiating experience we ought, indeed,
to have
.known that Ireland had nothing to expect from the
Whlga but intolerant contempt, and malignant, • but
treacherous, hostility. In plaits truth; my Lord, it is quite
manifeit that Lord Melbourne is quite incompetent to the high
office he holds.—(Cheers and laughter.) It is lamentable to
me to think that the destinies of the Irish people should in any
degree depend on so inefficient a person." Gentlemen, I
Confess that this statement is none of mine, but the opinion of
those parties are now upon record, and are become "natter of
history. In January. last; one of the parties was, as I have
she sn; not content with the others, yet now he is in close and
affectionate union with them.—( Cheers and laughter.)
However, all I can say is, that they have sacrificed on the altar
of their country their ancient hostilities, and the union has
given to one party office, and to another power. Gentlemen,
le third source of confidence I entertained when I en.
tcred office was, that it was my intention to propose those mea-
sures which had been proposed to Parliament by the former
Government, and I thought that I. should have the approba-
tion of that Government. I had not undertaken to govern on'
ultra principles. I was aware, and so must all of you, that.
great changes had taken place in the institutions of the coun-
try, and that it was expected that the course any Government
would pursue would be to accommodate itself to those changes.
I meant to do so—( Hear, hea'r)—and I do say, that whatever
had been my opinions with respect to the Reform Bill, he must
be a madman who should forget that it had passed.—(Cheers.)
If I were allowed to continue, I firmly believe - that the
measures I intended "to propose would be calculated to sa-
tisfy.the great majority of the reasonable portion of time com-
munity. I intended to propose measures of extensive Reform.
I did not intend to do this merely for the sake of conciliating
popular opinion, but in order to adjust measures that had been
left by former Governments in such a state that it was ab-
solutely necessary that they should be finally settled. I stated
in general terms what those measures would be without en-
tering into the details of them, for I was not permitted to do
so ; and I trusted that when those details were laid before the
country, and maturely deliberated upon, they would not fall

short of the expectations of the people.—( Hear.) I will now
again/ repeat some of the measures it was my intention to
propose for the consideration of Parliament. In the first place,
I should have prtiposed a safe and practical measure :or the
cornniutation of tithes in England, and I should have proposed
that measure on equitable. principles, and on voluntary adjust-
ment; but, if voluntary adjustment failed me, it was nut her
intention to exclude a compulsory principle.—( Hear.) Put,
when I say this, I beg that it may not be understood that it
was not my intention that the fair equivalent should not be
given for the property that was to be taken away,—(Cheers.)
There was another measure which, on entering office, I found
unsettled, and which 1-considered to be a fertile source of
dissensions throughout 'the country, and particularly in large
towns : i mean the pay inent of church rates by the Dissen-
ters. I believe that the Church of England would gain
—I believe that its institutions svUuld be rendered more stable
by the settlement of the question. Though I ant in favour of
the principle that the Church should depend on the public for
its support, at the same time. I am anxious of relieving the
Dissenters as much as possible from some of its demands. It
was my wish also to adjust other questions which were still un-
settled to the satisfaction of all, except of those—and I trust
they arc few in number—who wish to disturb the harmony that
ought to prevail between the Dissenters and the members of
the Church of England. I did wish in Whatever I did to con-
sult the members of the Church of England, which is always
an object of paramount importance.to roe.—( Cheers.) I iaL
tended to give such advantages with respect to marriage and
baptisyn as would relieve the Dissenters from conforming even
in appearance with the forms prescribed by those from whose
doctrines they dissented. I also intended, in conjunction with
my colleagues, to proceed with the improvements that had
been suggested by members of the. Government that prece-
ded rue, and which bad been left unsettled. I mean those
improvements which regard our ecclesiastical laws. With 're-
spect to economy I intended to insist upon it as far as would
not be dangercus, and as far as would not be likely to disturb
the tranquillity of the country.—( Cheers.) I intended to
make every reduction in the expenditure of the country that
was consistent with public faith and public safety.—( Hear,
hear.) The estimates of the Government over which I had
the honour to preside was lower, by 400,0001., than any esti-
mate producCd since the time of the war. For this reduction
the credit, I avow it, does not belong exclusively to the Go-
vernment at the head of which I was. Those estimates were
in part prepared by my predecessors, and I am the last mar, in
the world to detract from their merits, or from what they
have done with respect to economy. Gentlemen, I think those
measures, if I had been allowed an opportunity of proposing
them in detail, and the House of Commons had maturely de-
liberated upon them, in a fair spirit, I think I may say that
they would have been brought to a successful issue, and that
the labours of that session would have satisfied those who were
loudest in their complaints, and. in their cries for a redress of
grievances. I do not pretend to say, however, that the iasea_
sures passed in such a session would have given universal
satisfaction, but I know that there are persons fonder of
grievances for the sake of the grievances themselves than of,
having them t edressed, and that such persons do not wish to
be deprived of having them to complain of.—( Cheers.)
There were two other questions which I meant in proper time
to legislate upon—the first is that which relates to the Mu-
nicipal Corporations of England and Wales, and the second,
that which regards the settlement of the tithe question in Ire-
land, and the removal of the abuses that exists in that estab-
lishment.—( Loud cheers.) I certainly did refuse when called
upon in the House of Commons to give any promise as to the
measure which I intended to propose with respect to the form
of the Municipal Corporations. I was justified in refusing
this promise, or of giving any detailed explanation on the
subject, on the ground that I had not as yet read the evidence,
nor seen the Report of the Commissioners, thuttPlat it
best, before I gave a promise, to wait lee that in
which I considered necessary to enable one so tr.,' ormat ion
legislate as to
finally settle the question.—( Hear, hear. After I had seen
and perused the evidonee and the RI
e^'ort of the Commissioners,
I immedietoly admitted the lice
scessity of Corporation Reform ;
but when I say this, it •
not to be understood that I meant to
lend myself to e-
..,easures which were not founded in justice,
and whiet-
....i would carry changes into the institutions of the
—entry to so great a length.—(Hear, hear.) Gentlemen, of
this point, and in making this confession, permit me to tell
you, that I sacrificed, and to no small extent, my own private
feelings ; for when I made the admission that Corporation Re-
form was necessary, I did not consent to interfere with the es-
tablished rights of a Corporation—(Cheers)—which never in
• any one instance abused its powers, but whose conduct was
always founded in justice, in honour, and in integhty ; and
whose every act was distinguished by the most irreproachable
propriety.—(Loud cheers.) I will now state the immediate course
I intended to pursue with respect to the settlement of the other
question. I allude to that of the Irish Church.—( Hear, hear.)
I proposed to reform the abuses that had crept in in consequence
of time, in consequence of the . conduct of private
and of other circumstances; but was determined to resist, and
did resist, to the utmost of my power, the principle of the ap-
propriation of the revenues of the Irish Church other than strictly
to ecclesiastical purposes. I resisted that appropriation, first,
because it contained a principle that was fraught with danger ;
and secondly, because 1 knew, from accurate calculation, that
if there was a new distribution of the revenues of the Irish
Church, it would be found that they were not more than
sufficient for the decorous maintenance of the clergymen
belonging, to that Church.—(Hear, hear, hear.) This ques-
tion was the immediate ground upon which the existence of
the late Administration terminated. I have perceived that
upon recent occasions,' and by high authority, the. measures
I projected have been denominated—the term is very ex-
pressive—" clap-trap." If they were " clap-trap" measures
they were the recent ones of my predecessors.—(Laughter
' and cheers.) Every one of their measures were undertaken and
then left in such a state, that it was necessary for their successors
to attempt a practical adjustment of every one of them.—( Loud
cheers.) I really think that those who introduced those measures,
and left theni unsettled, were more liable to the charge of clap-trap
than those who in good earnest set about attempting to settle them.
I believe that those measures, if they had been undertaken by the
Government to which I belonged, might have been settled. If I
had only the good fortune to have possessed so much of the confi-
dence of the House of Commons as to induce them to enter into
practical deliberation of these measures, and when I was was tell-
ing you that I had in the House a majority of the Members of
England, I do not think that my attempt to govern was so rash as
some people have considered, nor that my hopes to settle those ques-
tions were so remote as many people thought. Far be it from me to
place any portion of the Members of these realms beneath the other.
Far be it front me to rank the Representatives of Ireland in the
scale lower than those of England.—( Hear.) But still I will say
that I had the good fortune of having on my side a majority a. the
Representatives of the English peope.—(Cheers.) 1 h:ACI, there-
fore, reason to hope that 1 would have been able to ',lave settled all
those questions according—mind accordinge—t.'" the principles of our
ancient Constitution.—(Cheers,) I mean by this is, that I
would have carried them with tte cordial goodwill of the three
branches of the Legislature.
—( Hear, hear.) I, for one, think that
no measure can be sal'stactory to the people in which the consent
of the House of Lord 3 has been extorted by menace or violence.—
( Great cheers.) And I believe that the people of this country
would find meastwee passed with the sanction of the three branches
of the Legisletere more in harmony with our Constitution and our
instossiiseaa than if they had been passed by one branch of the
Le&slattires \ whilst the consent of the other was excluded.—
Chem. ) Gentlemen, you are probably edam that of late great
hostility has been shown to the House of Lords—(Hear)—that
notice has been given by an Hoe.. Member that he would, at an
early period of met Session, move for leave to bring in a Bill to
reform the }louse of Lords.—(Hear, hear.) By reforming 'the
Hew et LOT& I understand nothing more.than that they should
be deprived of having a voice.and by it is meant the establishment
of a popular assembly, free from all controul.—(Cheers.) It is my
apimon that such an assembly, investing itself with'absolute power
of legislation, would soon attack the prerogatives of the Crown and
destroy the Constitution —(Hear,) I do not hesitate to say that
such an usurpation o:\ the part of one branch of the Legislature
would end In the most intolerable styranny.—(Loud cheers.)
Gentloseels, I am, and I hope yoh are, for • the maintenance of the
Constitution.—(Loud cheers.) Gentlemen, I hope that
you will net pass such a libel on the Reform Bill as to declare it in
consistent with the maintenance of the British Cuostituti-,n
I fez cue cannot do so., and I will strive to the utmost a in:
power to prevent the tyranny that would arise fry that
sembly which should be electe:l solely by the public (Load cheers.) The histove all countries ,
at el:a-e vlo-ute.---y
of every country in Eettope that have try' at
the, experiment—that
cent'u' t°4
have azlnpted tls'e establishment of se-:
la eel
.an assembly—proved that it
wes seat eempatible with the
happiness Cl any of those:
countries. Why, the ve-
eey history of our own country, as well as
the history of FC.--
rosults us, —nee and other countries, showed what were the
ants.
eeing, governed solely, and annually elected, by the public
Hear, hear.) Such an assembly generally ends in the as-
- sump t ion of suererie power by some successful military commander,
, ,
to whom the people revert, thinking it better to submit to one ty-
rant rather than bow to the many-headed one, to which they had
been before subject in the shape of one -popular assembly. If they
should risk trying such an experiment they would find that the re-
sults would always be the same—that they did not arise from any
thing like mere accidental circumstances, but proceeded front
causes inherent so human nature. When I consider the feelings
of the people of this country—when I consider the way property is
distributed--when 1 Consider the rights of that property—when I
.consider the ancient laws by which everything connected with Chill
country is bound together, it is my belief that one assembly should
legislate singly; call it the House of Commons, or by any other
name you please, the same results would follow which I have
ahead!, pointed out. In such art assembly you would have the civil
' power usurped by some military commander, and vou would be
glad, like the people of France, after pouring out a deluge of bleol,
to revert to the ancient order of things, and to establish monarchy"
once mbre.—( Cheers. ) Gentlemen, knowing your good sense,
it is scarcely necessary for me to warn you, and to tell you that a
poular assembly would not be a meeting consisting of philosophers
and sages—( Laughter )—entirely intent on the promoting of the
public good, and completely forgetful of 'their own interests
(Cheer:; and laughter.) 'lle sole object would be to benefit the
public and to promote the public order. Do not believe that such
would be the case ; but rather believe that amongst the majority of
such an assembly you would find a nucleus of designing and cun-
ning men, who, whilst prating about public liberty and order would
be, in the mean time, doing every thing to obtain the furtherance
of their own ends. As I said before, our own country and France
have shewn that such would be the result of those principles.
Those results, I repeat, are not accidental ; they arc as certain as
that cause produces effect ; as immutable as.the laws by which the
world is governed,which are so certain that all that happens by the
operation of those laws within our sphere, as that comet now ap-
pearing within our ownsysteSh after the lapse of an interval of half
a century.—(lmmense cheers.) Well, if hostility prevails against
the. Holise of Lords, I am glad that those who profess it have given
indications of it, and of the • plans they mean to pursue ; for it
will put the people of England upon their guard, or if they
feel such inconvenience it will shew that they wish to change the
present system of Government for one of a more democratic form.
R might be said that I am cautiously avoiding to make any refe-
rence to America, but that I confined myself solely to the countries
of Europe. It might be said, and I knew it will be contended,
that this democratic principle has been successful in America. It
will be said, that under this Government, the people enjoy civil and
other rights, almost to equality ; and yet that country is able to de-
fend itself from, and even to punish, aggression from abroad. 1
shall be told, if I look to the state of America, I shall find an adop-
tion of the popular principle has been successful there. Very well.
1 look to the States of South America, where the popular principle
has been incorporated, and can I acknowledge that it has been suc-
cessful in those states, when almost every newspaper that reaches •
me talks of insurrection among them ?---( Hear, hear.) What

has prevented the establishment of aregular Government in 01
)
states if the form of a popular one was so very good ?—( hear. .
vele
If the principle. is correct by which we are told that we can Ise
11.
mite:elves, and that. there is no advantage to be derived free. our it
dent i:vtitutions, and*froin obedience to authority, how hamar
that revolutions in the Sates I have just mentioned do not fttr.
except iens, but rather a general rule ?—(Loud cheering. ).,,.1;
real - revolution that will happen in South America. %cat
lear. .5.4
that by which a regular and permanent Government will be et`,_ 4•
blislnet in that country.—( hear,
r hear.) I have admitted that the 1
popular form of •Governnient has been successful in the North;
American Statesebut I deny the general position, that beealt •
has succeeded there, it. ' will suit this country. It contains', Vet
tract of land unoeeieejtei• to -which the discontented and diretrectee
can be sent ; antG.itS einsition alone makes it widely from
England. The repnbheali institutions thee will suit a-new court'')'
may not for that account snit a country which tentains. men COW
cated as we are, subject to such laws as we `:re, and holding Prt"
perty by such rights as we do ; and ;fig prejudices (you ma}t
call them prejudices if you will) that connect us with the ancien,
monarchy of England.--( Loud cheers.) Let it not be understoo.l,
that from what 1 have said, I bear any towards the Arecrii
cans. No : I wish them all possible success to themselves, as '".ei
as to their Government. Let them believe me when I say, that
would rather see them happy under their republican iireit
than see any form of government, even monarch-e, to which am so attached, confirm the unhappiness of that
pe
of eeepl
the Vriittie, Though
we received accounts of the happiness of the
IY:op l
States, I do not see thet that is any reason wiey this country shoul'a'
adopt a republican form of goverrenent.—(elene..) But I haell'cnf
to read in a paper which I shall quote, :rad Y. quote it as an ant"ec;
city—l allude to an article which reaci ID it on the 05th Anga3"
1833. Mind, the paper lam quoting frenn is not a Conservatite
journal, but one that strenuously civets ees the cause of the preieat
Government. I quote the extract, r.ot that I, wish to show tleic_
unhappiness of the people of the United States. But when I 105
told of the happiness of the peop)".: of that country, I was rather
startled at the article in quesl'eoe ; and it gave me much reason n;
doubt of the vaunted happiemes of the inhabitants of the Unite'
States, when I find the fo deriving article inserted in a journal that
pieifesses to be the organ, of the present Government:—., The net':
'contained in the New fork papers which have been brought ever
by the Philadelphia, are full of melancholy interest. An ingir-
rection amongst tho slaves in Havannah—the spread of the stun'
mary mode of punishment called Lynch law'--1-13y the byes by
Lynch law is meant hanging a person without trial]—(A lauren)-
and the .hanging of live gamblers at Vicksburg, without trial--
acts of aggression tin the part of the authorities of Miedgen UP°P
the inhabitants of Toledo, Ohio, and the seizure at Livingstone''
Mississippi, /of two abolition preachers, and tr seven negroes
who appeared to have been hanged in the streets by the exaspe-
rated irenabitants, with a small form of tHat., scarcely constitet
a bare iatalogue of the enormities which 'these papers contain.,
Gentlemen, 'this is the testimony of the English paper alluded
to, and the following is the testimony of the New York Evesifig
Pcst:—" The account which we publish in another column,
from an extract of the Toledo, Ohio Gazette, will be perused hY
our readers with regret. With civil feuds in the north,
proceedings of anarchical and fatal character in the west, and a
servile war in the south—to say nothing of the factions and incen-
diary spirit which has lately broken cut in various parts Of ck.,
Atlantic borders—the country does, in truth, exhibit at present.,
spectacle to the European nations, which, we fear, will be
mented upon in a way not calculated to recommend the exartrile?
a popular Government." Now, Gentlemen, if you only Lear eine
mind what has been the issue of similar experiments you will °°
very much indulge with a popular Government. Even the oxref,
tations which it was hoped would arise froth the three glorters
tumultuous
days of July" were somewhat abated in this country, and the ace
of the present French Government were the theme of every cute
versation. For my part, I 'do not complain of tlie King efm.
French, who, I believe, is desirous of promoting the welfare 01e 'it.
people. It is not his fault that he is obliged to have recourse /
the present proceedings agitating the Chambers ; it is the fault
.0_
those few that are teaching the people to engploy resistance that 111
French Legislature is obliged to adopt severe laws. It is 14,e°
the fault of. the Government that the people of that coun_lcii
are made to submit to a greater tyranny than that to ‘Ol
they were subject under the ancient laws of the country-,eo
think I may say that the French people now enjoy ' 1
liberty than we enjoy in this country under our ancient laws, an:
the mixed and balanced Government under which we live. Ne"/
after the threats that I have !.earn uttered against the Noose Lords, and against the Bislores, and about depriving the. Alernhe",
of that House of their rigle",: of veto, I think it is time for the le
of this country to u their mind, and to sa y they,le
are friendly to threw, redress p of their justs grievances, or whether
they are dissatisfied w ith the institutions of their country, andf.
ready to suffer art organic change in it for the Purpose of subsoil;
tiug uncontrolled popular assembly ?—(Loud cheering.)
not one to advi".ie upon a pertinacious adherence in any branch
the Legislature to its own principles.—(Hear, hear, hear.) 1 if,he
re
lately advised a compromise; but it is a compromise worthy
dignity of each branch of the Legislature. It is my wish to a"
collision between the two Houses of Parliament, and I berser.e
that the 'welfare of this country consists in that the peoplo. efl,
should be able to apply themselves to the honest pursuit of a dust ;
without being constantly harrassed by dissensions of Ole Leirio
lature.
,But I assert, that whilst I advise a virtuous and (lignite
compromise, 1 will never consent to any species of correpeeenisee,t'''
will tend to destroy any • one branch of the Legi•eiattne.—(l,
mendous cheering.) Gentlemen,' I fear that. I have detatijed
you too long.—(Cries of " No, no, go on.") .In/conclusion 1 tchis
say that it is my earnest hope that you and the people 000
country, that all those to whom any franchise has given repslear
will compare their country to any that now exists, or that has ro.
recorded in history. I also hope that yon will take into consineeete
tion the great changes that within dr:, last few years have ta'
place in the State—that certain Civil qualifications having lieee
o,
taken away—that a reform ha' taken place in the House of „
mons;and that all this has been done with the consent of the It° al
of Lords.—(Hear, hear.) I trust that the people of Englanel st-01.
compare their condition with that of the most favoured pe'inieeee
the globe ; though they have not all the advantages
w.Velit'efi
might have, still they have considerable ones in enjoying, to suet
an extent as they do the liberty of action and the freedotn
speech, in not being trammelled in their industry • and expanse
wealth, and in having the free intercourse the. y have with
:het
parts of the country. Look to those PAvantages, anddetri
reflect on the consequences of the intereep:
for even a single week in this country-, Task you whether fee,
publican institutions tutions can now, o nof the inu".,: -1..
are likely to find
eiee,
your in this country ? I ask e".ni whether the popular v," t{ or
represented through popular
You ? Don't you think 'zhar.nels alone, is sufficient
TJurrelves fairly represented,
..5e..4?
that you are in a state of obealeeeg
I trust that you will not be i-,isane enough to countenance in
a fair redress of your grievancthe
slighest degree, the witelt trl,l:iej
hope—indeed, I a,ra eSa, id baneful projects of a few.
land will not 44',"%nemselves of the advantage they now ell,r_s,j,
..ost sure—that the people of this enligh'4.--
that they wilit di
4,-';..ge their duty towards their posterity, boob 1,10,,
ing (41" `o "11'.in those rights which we all have in the ,1 to
ttu'n, and BvVich, as we ourselves have inherited them, we ougPbg,
transmit tt:em. intact to be inherited by our children, and our el
dreft'a e7nildren. The Right Hon. Baronet resumed his seat 0"
loud and general cheering.
ed, •but
Several ether toasts and speeches were afterwards deliver- ;ace
the very long distance we had to perform, and the short Te,
w
of time e had to do it., in time for this morning's publicans
compels us to withhold them.

MUNICIPAL

LIST
On the Clause for gig.

DUKES.
Richmond
Portland

MA RQUISES.
Clatirktarde
Cony ngbam
tart

Lansdowne
Queensberry

Albemai lc
Charlmola.
Erroll

IlcheAer

Leitrim

DUKFS.
II IL 11. the 'Duke
of Sus4.-ex
Argyll
Cleve''„kul
P'.onshire
Leinster
Sutherland

31.11:QUISZS.
Anglesea
ortliampton
Wellesley
EARLS
Camperdown
Carlisle
Chichester
Ceri:
Derby

DU%ES.

Grafton
Norfolk

CORPORATIONS 131

MA! QUISE3,
Tavistock
Windlt:bier
EARLS.

OF THE MINORITY f jar
ing the Crown the direct nomination 0-
tices.
PEERS PRESENT.
EARLS.
Lichfield
Minto
Radnor.
Ripon
Scarborough
Thanet

%tSCO
Duneannon
Melbourne

BARONS.
Auckland.
roue. am
Der• .nan
pucic
PROXIES.
EARLS.
Durham
Spencer
I. algal!
Fitzwdliarn
Gosfod
Granville
Grey
Huntingdon
Ludlow
Mulgrave
Nelson
Oxford
Ranfurly
Marmon
Shrewsbury

BA nolis.
Dunally
Foley
Glenelg
Hhtherton
Holland , .110'
Howard of
l'qostyn
Pinnk et
Say° and Sex
Strafford
Templem ore
Teynharn
BISHOP.
Erisitol

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Cloncurry
Dormer

Dorcliestea
Falklar)d
Glenlp)n
Gc,cloyltin
King

Kull;Aird
Li ford

Burlington
thaven

V'ISC'OUNT.
oWen
PAIRED OFF
EARLS.
Egreinom,
Essex
11,rley
Itosebery
Sufic)lk

Dunmore

Lytticcon
Segrave
esters

V I SCOUNT
Torringtor.
0 P.
Chic). estvr

Eistior.
Norwich

Iv, it ONs.
ilelhaven
Ditiorben
Dundas

Gardner
Howticii
Pot i too re
rtl
Shot'borne
Suffield

LIST bl% TilE MINO.
Against Lord El.l.emborougli's Amendment
DORE. EARLS.
Richmond Lichfield
51.1!:QUI.;ES. Mint()
Clanrivarcie Radnor
conyngkart ScalbolotOt
I lead foi t . 'nand
Lansdowne ' VISCOUNTS
Qtlfellbirlry Duncannon '
ILA 2 LS. Mt lbourne
A.b,,ma:1...: BA It ON s.
char letoont A tick land
Errrol ! )enmaii
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flat hertoo ,
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BIRHS.
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On the 2d inst., at Claverton Park, the lady of Peter
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MARRIED,
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