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Tem-rent relative to the high duty charged by that country
upon iron going by sea.
Mr. P. THOMSON said that he' was not in possession of
any answer from the Hanoverian Government relative to the
subjects the lion. Member had adverted to, but he would
say that unless the answer were satisfactory he should feel no
doebt in recommending the Crown to exercise the powers it
possessed. With respect to the latter question, he regretted
that the progress made with respect to France had not been so
speedy as he could have wished, but he hoped, in the course of
• the next Session, to make a more favourable statement.
DANISH CLAIMS.
Sir F. TRENCH wished to put a question to the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer relative to the Claimants under the
Danish Treaty. The question was, whether it was his inten-
tion in a future Session to give his sanction to the claims of
those who had goods seized on board ship. He knew one
person who was a claimant to the amount of 4,0001., who only
a few days ago begged a single penny from a Noble Friend.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the
Hon. Gentleman must have been prepared, by what had already
occurred, for the only answer he could give. He could not
entertain the question as to property seized on board ship. He
begged to take this opportunity of alluding to some gross mis-
representations respecting this subject that had appeared in
the public prints. Attacks made only on himself be would
never notice, but when they involved the interests of others,
he felt bound not to pass them by, It had been stated in the
Times newspaper that he had been guilty of a miserable at-
tempt to defeat the ends of justice, by referring to a private
memorandum of what had taken place between the Hon. Mem-
ber for Sheffield and the Noble Lord (Stanley), and it was
said that his object in so doing was to deceive the parties to
the deputation with whom he had the honour of communicat-
ing. The fact was, that on the occasion alluded to he had
not referred to a private memorandum, but to the Mirror of
Parliament.—( Hear, hear.)
Sir F. TRENCH had not seen the calumny complained of
by the Right Hon. Gentleman.
Sir J. R. RIED said he was one of the deputation, and
he was as much surprised as the Right Hon. Gentleman could
be when he saw the misrepresentation he had alluded to in the
public prints.
Mr. HUTT was at the head of the deputation, and the.
Right Hon. Gentleman had sent him a copy of the calumny
which had been published. If the Right Hon. Gentleman
entertained the least suspicion that he was any party
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had not
the most distant idea of imputing any thing of the kind to
him; his only object in sending the statement to him was, that
he might have the benefit of his testimony to its incorrectness.
WOLVERHAMPTON INQUIRY.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said the Hon. Member for Wol-
verhampton had given notice of a motion to the effect that he
would direct the attention of the House to the evidence taken
in the inquiry into the recent occurrences at Wolverhampton.
As the evidence was very voluminous, perhaps the Hon. Gen-
tleman would state what was the particular point to which he
desired to call the attention of the House. -
Mr. THORNELY said that the resolution he had intended
to move was, " That this House having taken into its consi-
deration the minutes of evidence taken at Wolverhampton, es
to the proceedings which occurred at the close of the South
Staffordshire Election, and the introduction of the military,
into that borough on the 27th of May last, when several per-
sons were wounded, is of opinion that measures should be im-
mediately adopted to secure the administration of justice and
the preservation of the peace in that borough, without resorting
to military force."
Lord J. RUSSELL was understood to say that it appeared
from the evidence that be was as sensible now, as he was when out
of office, of the great evil of calling in the military unnecessarily
to put down rioting ; but if forbearance were carried too far,
instead of its preserving the public peace it had very often the
contrary effect. Much must depend on the measures that
were taken beforehand.—( Hear, hear.) He could assure the
Hon. Gentleman that this question had attracted a great deal
of his attention ; and he would add, that he thought there was
wanting in the country a better sy stem of magistracy in the
populous districts.—( Hear. )
Mr. VILLIERS said that what had fallen from the Noble
Lord respecting the necessity of 0 stipendiary magistracy, had
given him great satisfaction to hear, and he was sure that it
would give ,ereat satisfaction to his constituents.
Mr. BOLDERO bore testimony to the forbearance of
Capt. Manning in the perfcrmance of his duty. The inhabi-
tants of Wolverhampton had given a piece of plate to him for
his good conduct.
The House then went into committee on the Oaths' Aboli-
tion Bill ; several verbal amendments were agreed to, and
the House resumed.
A Message from the Lords brought down the Great Western
Railway and several private Bills, and requested for their
Lordships a copy of the Report of the Committee appointed
by* House of Commons to inquire into Public Charities.
The Report was furnished accordingly.
MILITIA ESTIMATES. -
On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EX-
CHEQUER, the House resolved itself into the Committee
of Supply.
Lord HO WICK rose to move the Militia Estimates.
Colonel PERCEVAL said, in his opinion his Majesty's
Government had exceeded their powers in the case of the
Militia. He did not think they had the power of discharging
the whole of the Staff in one regiment, and retaining it in
another.
Lord HOWICK made a reply, not one word of which
reached the gallery.
Colonel PERCEVAL said if they had the power he had
been deceived, and had laboired under a false impression.
Mr. HUME was exceedingly glad that the Government had
reduced the. Stgl: It was cieite ridiculous for the country to
be at the expense of maintab ing a Staff for which there was
not the slightcat necessity.
Mr. B. HO Y said, that. according to his reading, the Go-
vernment had the power of reducing only part, say one fourth,
or one-half, or any number between, of the Staff of every
regiment.
After a few words from Sir F. TRENCH and Col. Snivitonr,
the vote (of 218,8611. 3s. 4d., for the charge of the Militia)
was then agreed to, and the House resumed.-
GREAI 'YNRMOUTH COMMITTEE.
Dr. NICHOLL asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if
he had come to the'resolution of effecting any arrangement for
the ea:/rnent of the expenses of this Committee ?
Thy CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, in
answer, that his own impressioe had been in favour of the pay-
ment, but that he would leave it enen to any Hon. Gentleman
to bring the matter before the House.
SLAVE TRADE (SARDINIA) BILL.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the
third reading of this Bill.
Me. HUME took the opportunity of asking if any measure
had been or would be taken to put a stop to the practices at
present prevalent at Cuba, where the slave trade was in a very
flourishing condition—where, indeed, every vessel sailing to
the coast of Africa might be insured for a fixed rate of per
ventage? The French flag had wholly disappeared in con-
nection with this traffic, but still the Spanish flag was to be
found covering its continuance. If this state of thkgs were to
remain, it was impossible that they could expect, in our own
'West India islands, that improvement in our black population
which it was desirable to see effected. He wished to ask,
whether, under the agreements existing with the Spanish
Government—for which agmeraente we had paid 800,(?00/.
we had not the power immediately to enforce the abolition of
the trade ?—and if riot, whether some other agreement could
not be entered into ?
Mr. C. WOOD said negoelatiens were going on at that
moment with Spain, for the purpose of elfecting a fiew treaty ;
and as they were still incomplete, he could not at present
enter into them.
Mr. HUME said, nothiag but the declaring of this trade to
be piracy would he effectual in suppressing it.
Mr. FOWELL BUXTON was understood to ask in
what state wets the question upon this subject concerning
Portugal ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
was a question which would be better addressed to his Noble
Friend the Secretary for Foreign Affairs ; all that he could
state was, that the most unremitting attention on the part of
the Government would be given to the subject.
The Bill was then read a third time, as was also the Slave
Trade (Denmark) Bill.
STAMPS. AND ASSESSED TAXES BILL.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved
the third reading of this Bill.
Mr. HUME took the opportunity of suggesting to the Right
Hon. Gentleman, who had declined to repeal the stamp duty
upon newspapers, on the ground of wanting funds, the pro-
priety of devoting to that purpose the sum of three hundred
and fifty thousand pounds, yet remaining unapplied out of the
million which had been advanced to the Irish Clergy.—
(Hear, hear.) It was now understood that the Irish Tithe
Bill had been dropped altogether in the other House; and he
would submit to the Chancellor of the Exchequer that it
would be well, now that the money in question had been
spurned and rejected by that House, for him to amend the pre-
sent Bill, by at once reducing the amount of the duty to which
be alluded to the sum of one penny.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER would
never consent to reduce a tax by means of an issue of Exche-
quer Bills, for the money to which his Hon. Friend alluded
was but a fund remaining of unissued Exchequer Bills.
Mr. HUME observed, that when he desired the rediic-
. tion, he did not contemplate the necessity of providing for
any consequent decrease of revenue; on the contrary, he
thought that the diminution of the duty would lead to an
increase.
Mr. O'CONNELL said that the House might also apply
the-seven hundred and fifty thousand pounds which had been
advanced out of the million to that purpose. They had, in-
deed, expressed their willingness to remit their claim to that
amount on the Irish Clergy who had received it, but elsewhere
it had been said that the Protestant Clergy ought to repay it.
An Hon. MEMBER observed that if the House had the money
in question there were other purposes to which to apply it be-
fore remitting the stamp duty on newspapers.
The Report was then brought up.
MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS BILL.
The Bill was brought up Kerte the Lords amid cheers, and
cries of " Oh, oh I" .
.The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER then rose
fort the purtiOse'orfiloviag, `trot that the amendments only be
printed, according to the usual course, but that the whole
Bill, as amended, be printed ; and said, that that was the
only way in which the measure—a new measure in some res-
pects, and certainly one requiring full consideration—could be
discussed. He trusted that that arrangement would be pro-
' ductivo of no serious delay, as he upectod that copies of the
measure would be in the hands of Members on Monday next,
Ivhen it would, he proposed, be taken into consideration. It
eras at all events extremely desirable that they should have
it before them in a complete state, for the purpose of welj-