The Sun.
London, England, 1832-07-13 00:00:00

THIS DAY.

The inquiry was resumed this morning.
Mr. PoLLocic and Mr. PHILLIMORE objected to any
more witnesses being called.
Mr. LAW said it was for the satisfaction, and at the
suggestion of the Court and Jury that they were called.
The COURT felt themselves bound to pursue the inquiry
in the fullest manner, and for that purpose they should
require every witness to be called who could give any in.
fornaation upon tho subject.
Miss E. M. Newton examined by the Court.--I was
aware of the intention of my brother before I went to the
Zoological Gardens. I first knew of that intention about
a month before. On the Thursday (before the Saturday
of the elopement) I bad some conversation with Miss Bag-
ster for the first time upon thesubject. That conversation
was at Mrs. Bagstet's house, in Warwick-square. It had
rained in the morning, and in the afternoon I went alone
to inquire whether they intended to go that day to the
Zoological Gardens. I found Miss Clayton and Miss
Bagster in the room. Miss Clayton left the room to speak
to the coachman. I then said, " Well, dear Rosa, you
will be far away by this day week." She replied,
" Yes, I have no doubt 1 shall be much happier."
Miss Clayton returned then, having only been in
the hall, and I had no opportunity of saying any
more. The next time that anything passed was at
the Zoological Gardens. I went there with Miss Clayton,
Miss Bagster, and my sister, in the carriage. We walked
separately until we got to the Bears, and when we left the
I;ears, my brother offered Rosa his arm. I dont exactly
remember the place, where we separated from Al.ss Clay--
ton, tray aster, and Mr. Laver, but we did separate from
them. I took Rosa's arm, and begged she would remember
the solemn step she was about to take, and to consider of
it. I asked her if she was firm and happy in her determi-
nation to go as ever, and whether she really preferred
Raymond to all the young men she had ever known or
teen. She replied, without hesitation, " Indeed I do, dear
Emma, I have known him longer, and love him better
than any one else." We were both so agitated, that we
did not speak any more, except that she said she hoped I
would take care that no one came after her. She imme-
diately shook hands with me, and left the gardens. I did
not see Miss Clayton until three quarters of an hour after-
wards. Rosa was at our house on the Tuesday preceding,
but I did not observe that she had been crying. I never
heard that she had been crying on account of Mr. Howell.
I did not know of any packet of linen being put into the
carpet-hag. My sister knew nothing at all about it.
By the Jury—l believe it was Rosa's wish I should
meet them at Liverpool. I had asked my mamma's leave
on the morning of my receiving the letter from my brother
—she gave me her permission.
Mr. Alderman Kelly examined by the CHIEF COMMIS-
SLONER,-.-I am one of the executors of the late Alderman
Crowder ; I have had frequent opportunities of seeing
Miss Bagster during the last seven or eight years; in my
judgment, the state of her mind is childish and imbecile,
not possessing the usual reasoning faculties which others
possess.

By the Jury—l would not intrust her to manage her
Own affairs. I have no doubt she is incompetent to ma-
nage the affairs of life. I think every degree of kindness
and tenderness has been exhibited towards her by her
grandfather, her mother, and the governess. Understanding
she has been sent to various schools, and had various go-
vernesses, I have no doubt every attention has been paid
to her education, but it has wholly failed. I think too
►ouch tenderness has been shown to her by her mother.—
I would not at present consent to her marriage to any re-
spectable young man—but I might alter my opinion► in a
tew years, in the expectation that her mind might be-
come snore developed. She has lived in my house ever
since the 26th of April. I have been occasionally alone
with her far short periods. I never knew her at any time
to make indecent or improper observations. Mrs. Bag-
ster has frequently to toe alluded to Mr. Jupp and others,
who had made advances to her daughter, and had said,
that she hoped the time would arrive when her daughter
would be well settled in life. She had not objected to bei
marriage on account of her imbecility. Mrs. 13. has not
been much in her daughter's company under my roof.

By the CHIEF CO3I3IISSIONER-1 was aware of a letter
written to Mr. Jupp by direction of the Justices ; we con.
sidered she wis not in fit state of mind to enter into a
married state, and that Mr. Jupp was not in point of cha-
racter objectionable. The objection was of a mixed
character.

By Mr. Commissioner WIIITMARSII If Miss Bagster
was my d ughter, and an application made to me by a re-
spectable person who would take care of her, I should
pause considerably before I agreed to her making an alli-
ance with him at present. On Miss B. coming of age,
we consulted respecting protecting her by an application
to the Lord Chancellor, but in deference to her and her
mother's feelings, and in the hope she would improve, we
agreed to allow a respectable sum of money for her main-
tenance for the present. If we gave her 50/. or 1001 ,
we might put it in her hands, but so that it might be
under the control of Miss Clayton or her mother. Dur
ing her residence in my house, I never thought her fit to
take care of herself or her affairs ; I have never arrived at
that period yet.
By Mr. FOLLETT—Since Alderman Crowder's death,
I had many opportunities of seeing Mrs. and Miss Bagster
together in their house. I should nut myself approve al-
together of Mrs. Bagster's treatment of her daughter both
as to fondness and as to harshness. I think it injudicious,
because I think she has not corrected her daughter when she
ought, and has not caressed her at times when there was oc-
casion for it. I have never seen her harsh to her daughter
without reasonable ground ; occasionally I have seen her a
little out of temper. During the time she has been in to)
house, and I have treated her with kindness, I have ob.
served no improvement in point of intellect, she has always
conducted herself very well in my presence, except on two
occasions. The first was the morning after her arrival
from the North, when she attempted to break the pictures
in the room, and to kick me. I shuok her by the shoul-
ders, and told her that I did not allow such violence in my
house, and would send fur an officer. I asked her why she
did so ? and she made no reply, but stared very in-
coherently, and seemed very much alarmed at the
manner in which I hail treated her. I then left the room,
and declined sitting at table at dinner with her that day.
During the evening she sent to inc wishing to see nap,
and to ask my pardon for offending me. I went to her,
she was crying, and expressed her sorrow for offending
me, and asked me if I would forgive her ; she promi.ed
never to do so again. The other circumstance was on the
folowing Sunday, when she joined in family prayers, the
whole of which she found out in the prayer book herself,
except the psalms and collect, and went through the re-
sponses very accurately. Afterwards witness suggested
that Mrs. Bagster should read a sermon. Miss Clayton
having gone into the other room for a book of sermons,
Miss Bagster took up a large prayer-hook, and sudden'y
appeared in the attitude of throwing it at her mother, but
I stopped her. She afterwards expressed her sorrow for
it, saying she was of a very bad temper, and could Lot
help it. She said she did not like her mamma at all.
By Mr. POLLOCK--4 have always treated her as a father
would a child of seven or eight years of age. I have

never made her a present of any thing except a flower, that
I might have taken in the room. I never heard of any
gloves being given to her.

Mr. Woodfall, at the request of the Jury, was recaled
and stated, that he had heard Alderman Kelly's evidence
respecting Miss B tgster's prob ible marriage with any per-
son, and he was of the same opinion as Alderman. Kelly.
Witness believed that every justice had been -Scattered to
Miss Bagster. The Executors had, in deferenv to, the
feelings of Mrs. Bagster, refrained from seeing out a com-
mission of lunacy, but if Mrs. Bagster had accepted anY
offer of marriage for her daughter, witness was of opinion
they would have sued out a commission.

Dr. Monroe recalled by the Jury. If Miss Bagster's
case had been submitted to a mad doctor" before the pro-
ceedings commenced, no improvement could have been
hoped for.
The CHIEF COMMISSIONER asked if Mr. H0w4.11 was
in Ccurt.
Mr. PoLtocK said he was not.

The CIIIEF COMMISSIONER.-Then we will consider
the evidence as now closed.

Mr. Potr.ocK then rose and addressed the Jury in sup-
port of the Commission. His reply is likely to last the
remainder of the day.
The Court was as usual very crowded, and all the
galleries were HO with ladies. The most intense interes
seems to be felt in the result of this very extraordinary case.