The Sun.
London, England, 1835-07-18 00:00:00

RIOTS AT LIVERPOOL.

Mr. HL M E wished to ask the Noble Lord, the Secretary
for the Home Department, whether the Government had
received any accounts of the outrages which were repre-
sented to have taken place at Liverpool, on the 12th instant?
In a newspaper which he held in his hand, it was stated that
certain Orange arches had been erected which the magistrates
ordered to be pulled down, but the loyal and peace-loving
orangeists resisted. The riot act was read by Mr. Skinner,
and the military charged the mob ; they would not disperse,
but met the military with a volley of stones. The soldiery
at length fired ; one young woman was shot dead, some per-
sons wounded, and the streets were partially cleared. He wished
to ask the Noble Lord, whether the Government had received
any information, and what steps had been pursued ?—( Hear. )
Lord MORPETH—It was too true, that in consequence of
the riotous proceedings referred to, one life had been lost and
several persons injured.

Mr. -HUMEL-Though there was public business before
the House of the greatest importance, yet he deemed the
peace of the country of so much more importance, that he was
about to submit to the House the propriety of some measure
being taken to put an end to this excitement, and those dissen-
sions which had been referred to with so much feeling. If he
showed to the House he was able to point out the means of
obtaining evidence as to the state of factious opposition and
disturbance that continued there, he deemed it his duty to
delay the House for a few minutes.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL then moved the Order of the
Day for the Municipal Corporation Bill ; if the House chose
that the Bon. Member should go into this subject, he would
postpone this Bill till the next week.

- Mr. HUME—Even at the hazard of delay, it appeared
the him necessary to refer shortly to the situation of that
unfortunate country—lreland. It appeared that Orange
bodies existed in Ireland to a great extent, and extended to
various regiments in the army.—( Cries of " Oh, and hear.")
Colonel PERCIVAL rose to order. If the Hon. Mem-
ber were allowed to go into this, and make the speech he was
about to make, it would be his duty not to allow an ex-
parte statement to go forth to the public.
Mr. HUME—His object was not to have any discussion
now.—( Cries of " Hear " from the Tories.) A Committee
was then sitting, which had been appointed by the House
to take evidence respecting these Lodges. It appeared that
the evidence respecting several of these Orange Lodges
had been communicated by some individual of the Com-
mittee, for he found it in an Orange paper of the 6th of July.
The SPEAKER—The question before the House was, that
the Order of the Day for going into a Committee of the whole
House be read : the question of the Hon. Member respecting
Orange Lodges was not connected with this.
Mr. HUME—It rested with the discretion of the House.
He was perfectly in order in any motion that was made to
move an amendment. He did not wish to move this as
an amendment.—(" Oh, oh !") He only wished to state
—(Great cries of " Oh, oh.") Well, then, if he was obliged
to do so he would.—( Uproar. ) He wished to submit to the
House whether—(Uproar, and loud cries of " The Corpo-
ration Bill.") The evidence taken before the Committee re-
garding Orange Associations, he moved should be laid on the
table of the House. When that was done, he would
certainly bring forward the subject as one of the greatest
importance. If he was correct in the information which he
had received, he would feel it his duty to impeach an indivi.
dual of high standing in the county—(Hear,)—of high
crimes and misdemeanours against the State.—( Sensation, and
cries of " Name, name.") He wished to know whether the
Committee was prepared to report, and at what period the ex-
aminations would be laid on the table of the House. He would
then brilig forward his motion.

Mr. WILSON PATTEN-A great number of witnesses
were to be examined, so that he did not think they could re-
port during the present session. From the nature of the exa-
mination, it would not be fair to communicate any of the evi-
dence till the defence was gone into. The Committee had
witnessed with very great regret that communications had been
held with newspapers in Ireland regarding portions of the evi-
dence.

Mr. FINN thought that the evidence was important, and
ought to be produced. The Hon. Member was going to
observe on the evidence, when
Mr. FINLEY rose to order.

Mr. FINN contended that he had a right to address the
House, and comment upon the evidence, amid loud cries of
1. Chair, chair."

The SPEAKER thought the Hon. Member Was out of
order in attempting to observe upon evidence that was not
before the House.

Mr. W. PATTEN said that he would take the sense of the
Committee upon the subject at the next meeting.
Mr. HUME said that on Tuesday next he would move that
the Committee should put the House in possession of all the
information it had upon the subject.
Sir H. HARDINGE thought it was not fair that a parti-
cular portion of what had taken place before the Committee
should 'oe brought before the House before the Committee had
mafte its Report.
Mr. O'CONNELL thought if that evidence existed it
ought to be before the House.

Sir ROBERT PEEL objected to the motion of the Hon.
Member for Middlesex being brought on on Tuesday, as he
understood it was intended to bring forward the subject of the
Irish Church on that day.
Mr. HUME could assure the Right Hon. Baronet that he
should not say a word on bringing forward the motion.
Sir ROBERT PEEL wished to know from the Noble
Lord opposite, what course he intended to pursue with respect
to that Bill.

Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that he could do no more
than request the Hon. Member for Middlesex to allow the
Irish Church question to come on previous to his motion.
Mr. HU3IE had no objection to bring on his motion on
Monday.
After some observations from Mr. D. JACKSON, this was
agreed to.
Mr. SINCLAIR wished to know whether the Noble Lord
opposite had received information of the outrages at Liver-
pool, by the Roman Catholics.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL had not heard of any outrage.
Colonel PERCIVAL wished to know from the Hon.
Member opposite ( Sergeant Perrin) whether the parties
who had been guilty of the outrages at Wexford had been pro-
secuted by the Crown or not ?
Mr. Sergeant PERRIN stated that as soon as he received
the information from the Gallant Member, he had written to
the Crown Solicitor on the subject, but he had received no
further information.
MUNICIPAL REFORM BILL.

The House then resolved itself into Committee on the Mu-
nicipal Corporations Bill.
Clauses 50, 51, 52, and 53 were agreed to.
To clause 45 Mr. JARVIS moved to add the following
proviso :—" Provided always, and be it enacted, that nothing
herein contained shall authorize or empower the judges named
in the Commission of Oyer and Terminer and Gaol Delivery,
issued for the county of Chester, to make orders upon the
sheriff of the county of the city of Chester, to be appointed
as aforesaid, for the execution of the criminals convicted for
offences committed within the county of Chester."
After a short discussion, in which the Attorney-General,
Mr. Hughes Hughes, Mr. Egerton, Lord John Russell, and
Mr. Thornley participated, the motion was negatived without a
division.

On the clause respecting town-clerks, a long and desultory
conversation took place ; in the course of which, Lord JOHN
RUSSELL observed, that by the Act compensation would be
afforded to all who were deprived of their offices by this Act.
But if they were eligible, and were re-elected, he could not
see what claim they could justly make for compensation,
having suffered no injury : and Mr. SCARLETT contended that
many of the town-clerks had devoted a long life to their oc-
cupation ; not supposing that a Bill, which would transfer
power in every town in the country from one set of hands to
another, would ever be contemplated by any but a revolutionary
Government.

Mr. Roebuck, Lord John Russell, Mr. Wason, Mr.
Thornley, Mr. Gladstone, Mr. Goulburne, Mr. Spring
Rice, Mr. Wynn, the Solicitor- General, and Sir William
Follett followed:

Lord SAND ON, with the view of providing for a contin-
gency, which he thought was not contemplated by the clause,
proposed to insert after the words " Who shall not be re-ap-
pointed," the following, " or accept the said office."
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL maintained that the
clause, as it then stood, contemplated and provided for every
contingency that could possibly occur.
After some further discussion the gallery was cleared for a
division, but during the exclusion of strangers the amendment
was withdrawn, and the clause agreed to.
On clause 60 being read,
Mr. WILKS suggested an amendment, which the Attar-