The Sun.
London, England, 1832-02-16 00:00:00

liberally at the outset, as likely to be the most
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course in the end, even on principles of rational econottivo.
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Sir H. HARDINGE complained that no step had yr*: -
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been taken to make adequate precautionary arrangerneoti7
fur the protection of the married men of each battalion of
the Guards. He was of opinion that, under existing cir-
cumstances, they should be presented with an additional
allowance, for the purpose of enabling them to provir'e
preventive measures individually in their own personal
self-defence.
Sir J. GRAHAM replied, that Government had it in
contemplation to supply the married men with a sum of
money for the purpose alluded to by the Right lion.
Gentleman, and it was furl! er intended to put one list-
aliOn, at present at nut-quarters, in some public building in
the metropolis where they could he suitably accommodated.
Colonel DAVIES recommended that the married men
and their families should be promptly removed from un-
wtolesoine quarters to some station of security.
Mr. HUNT concurred with what had fallen from the
Hen. Member for Kirkcudbright.
Sir R. PEEL remarked that the extraordinary powers
with which the Privy Council were invested would, of
course, apply to the Guards in common with the re-
mainder of the community.
Sir J. MALCOLM said trollied unhappily seen mach of
the dreadful malady (tallest cholera morbus. He had com-
oianded many thousand men in provinces whied were
never entirely free from that fatal pestilence. He bad
,:ten and often traversed these provinces in the perform-
ance of his public duties, and had invariably found the
cholera to be locally infections.—(Psear, hear.) Sucts
corps as had the raisfortrine to pass the infected lines, in-
• vitably lost forty or fifty men by the disease. while not
one individual in any of the other corps had suffered from
it. He had uniformly observed that the assembling so- .
;ether of crowds of people materially contributed to its iiroe
caress. and predisposed tie constitution to receive it. His
policy, therefore, had been, as much as possible, to prevent
tidies of people from corning together, and interdicted all
f sirs and such gatherings as were found, ley experience,
to conduce to its extension. The disease now amoeeat:
as, lie believed, did not correspond in every particular
point with the cholera of the East, but it was to be feared that
it possessed but too many features in common with th ,t
pestilence. The House at all events had not been want-
ing to its duty ; he, as well as every either Member of it,
would put confidence in Gevernmente end support then)
in the exercise of their extraordinary powers in th;s guar;
cause of suffering humanity.—(Hear bear.) The less the
public mind was alarmed the better—(Heir, hear).—argil
certainly the tiraid ought to remember that it was fully
proved by official documents that this formidable malady
was not so fatal in its general operation as many other
d•seases to which every one was liable. " His plan in the
East had been to suppress the Newspapers and cushion the
mlletiris—(Much laughter, and cries of " Oh, oh !")
,nil prohibit every soldier from mentioning the very inner,
if cholera, however inclined to make it a topic of conver-
sation : he would have the physicians conceal most of the
tsses—(" Oh, oh !)—hut that system, he apprehended, •
would not be practicable here.—(Laughter.) Wherever
he cholera made its appearance, all other complaiots were
ascribed to it, and thus it became MO NI terrible in name,
than it really proved to be in effect.—( Hear, hear.)
Colonel WOOD observed, that the Guards were lodgcf
to rooms which were a disgrace 'o the country. A hun-
bed of these excellent men slept in one room, which had
served for a hayloft to the old grenadiers, and lie really
aelieved that a candle would not remain lighted in the
',tore of the room, so decomposed was the atmosphere.
The numbers ought certainly to be diminished, sr the
•holera would be sure to att olle the whole body as one man.
Colonel EVANS maintained that the disease was not
highly infectious, and counselled Government against put-
ing any restrictions upon commerce. •
An Hoer. Mimi:rex stated that the public ought not to
te alarmed, as this wis no new disease. He had had en
stack of cholera last autumn and had suffered prodigiously.
It had nearly destroyed him, and several of his friends in-
formed him, that the operation of the cholera in their cases
,ad been pretty nearly the same.
Sir W. RAE regretted that the present Bill had not
seen brought in sooner for the sake of Scotland, which
lad been suffering under this malady for several weeks.
The LORD ADVOCATE replied, that all the Aleut-
'era of the Council were most anxious to apply a remc iy
is early as possible, and he could see no means of raising
pecuniary ri lief except by compulsory parochial assess-
nents, to which it was supposed there would be so much
apposition.
Mr. C. FERGUSSON would rather consent oven to
compulsory assessment, than leave it doubtful whether
Scotland would be in possession of sufficient available sub-
stantial means for repelling the common enemy.
Lord ALTHORP said it would be of no use to give the
.llagistrates in Scotland authority to enforce the orders of
the Privy Council, without also giving them power to
raise the necessary funds. He thought the douse had
better defer legislating with regard to Scotland, until -the
Bill applying to that country, and which he believed was
already prepared, should be introduced.
The LORD ADVOCATE said if he obtained leave
from the House he would introduce the Bill alluded to by
the Noble Lord to-night.
Mr. WARBURTON considered that it would be highly
mischievous to act upon the recommendation made by an
Hon. Member, to suppress all information on the subject
:if cholera.
Mr. HUME thought it expedient to caution the public
against assembling in large numbers in close rooms.
Sir W. RAE said no delay ought to take place in giving
additional powers to Magistrates in Scotland, for at pre-
sent there were many nuisances which they had no autho-
rity to remove.
Several clauses of the Bill were then agreed to, after the
adoption of some verbal amendments.
Mr. HUNT alluded to the crowded condition of the
, poor-house in the district of Spitalfields, and asked whe-
ther it was the intention of Government to make any ex-
imination into the general state of poor-hous•=s?
Lord ALTHORP replied in the affirmative.
Mr. WARBURTON asked whether it was intended
to adopt any other mode of disinfecting places than
the ineffectual method of fumigation with the steam of
vinegar? Dr. Henry, of Manchester, had, by actual ex-
periment, proved that by subjecting infected substances to
a heat of 200 degrees, or less, the infectious matter of the
scarlet fever and of the typhus could be destroyed ; and he
wished to know whether it was in contemplation to adept
this plan?
Mr. P. THOMSON said that Dr. Henry's experiment
had been referred to the consideration of the Board of
Health, and the parties who appeared on his behalf were
told that if he were willing to construct an apparatus,
and satisfy the Board of Health of the nature of his dis- 1
covery, every attention would be paid to it. The parties,
however, made some dlficulty about going to the expense
of W. or 41. for the construction of the apparatus; mid
lie did not think it right to recommend the Board of
Health to make any advance of the money; because, if
money was to be advanced to every person who alledged
that he had made a discovery, there would he no end of
applications.
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been alluded to had beers already ascertained to be effectual
by experiments ; and such being the case, he thought that
C.overnment ought not to have refused an advance of 31.
or 41., while they were giving away sinecure offiees worth
from 5 to 10 guineas a day.
Lord ALTHORP was perfectly aware that Dr. Henry
was a man of great scientific attainments; but the Board
of Health could not advance money to him, and refuse to
do so to another person, who might perhaps have made
a discovery most beneficial to the community, because he
happened to be unknown.
Mr. WARBURTON thought that the case of Dr.
Henry differed from other cases. In this instance the
experiment had already been made, and Dr. Henry had
shown that his method of disinfecting- places was success-
ful. All Dr. Henry wanted was, an apparatus to enable
his moic of treatment to be adopted.
Mr. BRISCOE said that every perish ought to be pro-
vided with apparatus of this description.
The clauses were then agreed to.
Mr. BRISCOE moved the insertion of certain words in
the preamble to declare that the cholera was an itiflectisn
of Divine Providence.
Lord ALTHORP said that he would not oppose the
motion now it was made, but he thought it would have
been better that it had not been made.
Mr HUME said that be would oppose the motion.
Why should they say that the cholera was a Divine inflic-
tion ? They might as well declare that it was a Divine
blessing.—(Hear.) Ile thought lion. Members ought to
be satisfied now that a fast was appointed.
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