The Sun.
London, England, 1866-04-26 00:00:00

JUDGES IN IRELAND.

Mr. WHITESIDE asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland
whether, having regard to the amount of business in the
Landed Estates Court, Ireland, it was intended to fill the
pace of third judge, now vacant iu that court by the death
of the late Judge Hargraves ?
Mr. C. FORTESCUE said it was not intended to fill up
the vacancy caused by the death of Judge Hargraves.

ITALIAN VOLUNTEERS.
Mr. IL SEYMOUR asked the Under Secretary of State
for Foreign Affairs if her Majesty's Government had re-
ceived any information with regard to the alleged raid of
Italian volunteers on the Austrian territory; and whether
it had anything to do with the temporary refusal of the
Emperor of Austria to receive Count Arese and Signor
Venosta ?

Mr. LAYARD said the Government had reason to be-
lieve that the whole matter was unfounded. No informa-
tion on the subject had been received.

THE BUDGET.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said as it
was intended to finish the debate on the Reform Bill to-
morrow evening, he should, on Thursday next, bring for-
ward his financial statement.

THE REFORM BILL.—ADJOURNED DEBATE.
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hin the house was not in his opinion a
on
of politics, but one of right and wrong.
hoar.) Further, ho was of opinion that there welrre,
other matters at stake, and the house ought to be exceed-
ingly careful that it did not give undue precedence to ono
class over the other; also that the franchise was not given
to those who were not fitted to use it. It was said:in effect
f!..ct from the Treasury bench it was better to be governed
by large numbers, and governed bad, than by small num-
bers and governed well, but he could not agree
to such a proposition. (Hear, hear.) If it was
right to know the number it was proposed to
enfranchise, he thought the house ought to know
especially as the Government had told the house that it
had a bill for the purpose all in readiness, how the seats
were to be re-distributed. (Hear, hear.) The fact was the
whole secret of the present debate was that it was a trial o
power to see whether they could compel the house to pass
under the joke. (Loud cheers of " Hear, hoar," from the
Opposition.) If the house would only give the victory to
tho Chancellor of the Exchequer, viz., to vote this thing
in the dark in order to please hire—(hear, hear)—he be-
lieved he would be grateful and declare to the
house in his speech that the two bills, for
enlarging the franchise and reditributing the seats
should proceel in committee together. He warned
the house from heing led away by such a declara-
tion on the part of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, be-
cause when it came to be made there would be no time for
reply ; therefore he cautioned the house from being led away
by such an announcement. (Hear, hear.) Such a pro-
posal would not, according to his belief, remove any of the
solid objections that had been raised against the bill
by the noble lord tho member for King's Lynn.
The hon. member then referred to a speech
delivered at Liverpool, and said it was delivered at a sin-
gularly inappropriate place—the Philharmonic Hall—and
that when the right hon. gentleman appeared in his place
in Parliament to speak on the great subject of reform, he
treated the house to a rechauffee of the speech he had de-
livered at the place he had mentioned. Ho thought
that was not exactly the way to treat the
matter. He talked about admitting their fellow Christians
to the suffrage, but that was no argument in favour of his
proposition, but it was an argument is favour of admitting
the whole male and female population, but decidedly not of
increasing the number of those who for the future shall ex-
ercise the elective franchise. • Then, again, he talked about
flesh and blood say that argument would not only apply to
the whole human race but to the animal kingdom.
("Hear, hear," and laughter.) He did not intend the
observations he had addressed to the house to amount to
conclusions the Chancellor of the Exchequer had expounded
at Liverpool, and with respect to the stock argument used
on that occasion viz., justice, all he had to say was
that justice had nothing to do with the matter, which was
purely one of State policy and expediency.
LEFT SPEAKING.]