The Sun.
London, England, 1835-03-25 00:00:00

IRISH CHURCH.

Sir R. PEEL wished to know whether the Noble Lord
opposite would have any objection, on Friday next, to state
generally the outline of the resolutions he meant to propose
on Monday.—( Cries of " Oh I oh I") ;The adoption of such a
course would be extremely convenient, he thought, to the
House generally.—( A laugh.)
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that as he did not expect
the question, he was not prepared at the present moment with
an answer.—(Laughter.)
NAVY ESTIMATES.

Lord ASHLEY said that according to the usual custom,
it would be necessary to give notice in the Gazette on Friday
next that the half-pay and widows' pensions would be in course
of payment. This would be impossible unless they had the money,
as they would begin to be paid on the 10th of April,
and the last notice that could be given was on Friday
next. Now, unless the House would vote that money
to-night, it would be too late to do so on Friday,
and it would, therefore, occasion great inconvenience, as
those pensioners would think that they would not be paid.
It might be said that Government could take money voted for
other purposes, but this they did not ctonsider themselves
warranted in doing, without the sanction of the House.

Mr. LABO lietlE RE would be extremely sorry that any
such inconvenience should arise, but he really could not see
why the passing of that vote was so important, or more necessary
than any other. It wasintended, as .he had understood, that
all the votes should be passed by the Ist of April. He did
not conceive that the Noble Lord had made out any
case for receiving a further grant at present.--
Seeing his Right Honourable Friend, the late First
Lord of the Admiralty in his place ( Sir J. Graham), he should
like to know from him whether he was correct in the view he
had taken ; if not he should certainly at once defer
to the Right Hon. Gentleman's better judgment.
Sir J. GRAHAM said he could not see any constitutional
difficulty in applying monies which arc voted for one branch
of the service to another. After the resolution had been
refuted, and until the passing of the Appropriation Act. Dur-
ing the last Session, as, no doubt, the lion. Member for
Middlesex would recollect, he had taken one objection,
that ofter the money had been appropriated by Act
of Parliament for one use, it had been transferred for ano-
ther; but he had never contended, and never could con-
tend, that in the interval between the passing of the
vote, and the general appropriation of Parliament, the
former resolution having been reported, there ought to be
the least difficulty on the part of the. Executive in carrying on the
service after the moneys had been voted. He would say, take
this very instance with respect to the naval service, the sum
voted the other night amounted to nearly two millions
—( Cries of " Hear, hear")--and, while he was in the
Admiralty, he should not have hesitated in the least
in applying the sums so voted and reported to the general
use of naval service, and certainly including half-pay.
He saw in the procedure no violation of the Act o f Par-
liament. There was no objection, as he conceived, why
the estimate should not be passed before the Ist of Apri
next, yet he was compelled to say, that the controul which
the House was a controul of the Executive perfectly constitu-
tional. He did not think it was necessary to have the votes
passed before the Ist of April, nor that the public needed it.

Mr. HUME wished to ask the Noble Lord whether he
meant to pay the advance for the next quarter, because, if he
understood it right, the whole of the Navy Estimates were
provided for until next April

Mr. HERRIES said he was glad to find that the Right
Hon. Baronet had relaxed from some of his positions
in respect to the appropriation of the public money..
He did not quite understand the distinction which
he now withdraws. The Right Hon. Baronet contends, that
after the appropriation of Parliament, all monies voted by
the House should be applied for the specific purposes
mentioned ; yet that in the interval between the
passing of the votes the monies may be applied indiscri-
minately for the naval service. He (Mr. H.) was of opi-
nion, however, that the greatest degree of strictness was
necessary in the appropriation to the several parts of their