The Sun.
London, England, 1835-03-19 00:00:00

EAST INDIA HOUSE,

. day:
Sir C. FORBES'S speech concluded from The Sue ayeft4e, -hy,
What was the consequence of this miscalled free trade?. ",
that in the course of 20 years India has been impoverish:U.._ 5
(hear)—or trade has been almost annihilated, and slip; t.
been obliged to send a large proportion of her rem.
11.1.°„
goods imported from this country, in specie. That couast
was at this moment so drained of the precious metals,
find it a matter of difficulty to pay the enormoils
im-
posed upon it. If money was required for the •
s!xigerici,ecn
the state, and that he (Sir C. F. ) did not mean' t° 1.0);
surely the means should be afforr'.ed India of sending. be Were
duce to this country on less disadvantageous terms. '
it not found necessary to send sugar as a dead weight,. for
the purpose of making up the ship's cargoes to this coon's,'
there would be none sent from India. According to Montgomel
Martin's returns, which he believed were pretty accurate, IT
the year 1814, the amount of cotton manufactures reported
revenue. s
0.
from Bengal was two millions. What did it amount to nowt:
Of so little importance was it considered, that according. to
returns which had been moved for by Mr. Baring on the 2/M,
of February last, of the amount of principal articles importeus
during the last two years from India, the cotton manufacture
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were not included in it. Not only had this manufacture
India been destroyed, but this country had sent °1,1.t
cotton manufactures there to the amount of nearly eight
millions, making a difference of ten millions in OR
revenues of that country, with regard to cotton alonu:
In the year 1814, the quantity of cotton twist
India did not amount to eight pounds, and at the present oil,
ment it was eight millions of pounds. It was clear, from a",
this, that the British Government had ruined the trade He
India with this country, by denying it common justi,ce. "
regretted that, with the exception of some half dozed Mel'
bers, there were no persons in the House of Commons to
vocate the interests of th;s country ; and he regretted still aura.
to observe the little interest which the present First Lord of tl.ll -
Treasury took in its concerns, on the occasion of the India On
being introduced. if there was any man more than another
exported to_
who was bound to do justice to India and protect its trade Oct
manufactures it was Sir Robert Peel because his father e
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the first person who deluged' India with cotton goods, git
who, in the years 1810 and 1811, sent out a quantity,
Harn°ll4l
ing to about 100,000/.—( Hear, and a laugh.) e
C. F.) did not blame him for it, for he had himself a few Ye,/";
afterwards followed his example.—(Loud laughter.)
had expressed his surprise to the late Baronet at his being'
able to stud cotton goods there and sell them at so ebeal:
a rate, but his reply was that they were lying on his han.,;„o.
and that he was very glad to get rid of them. It was sem=
out these cotton goods, and selling them at so low a rate as
rally to " astonish the natives," that had destroyed the India trade'
He begged leave to suggest to the Hon. Chairman whetbn,ers
the petition might not be greatly improved by the menti° "ot
the article of coffee. There were also many others, aln°l4-r
which pepper which paid the heavy duty of one shilling Pee
lb., and an article which was now imported in late
quantities, viz., arrow-root ;on that imported from t,
East Indies there was a duty of nineteen shillings per Hear,
while the West India article paid only Id. per lb.—( be
hear.) He would further suggest, that the petition should
presented to the House of Lords- as well as the House of Co
mons. Such was the course pursued on last occasion, and
did not see why it should now be departed from. Let Englenv
grant that to India which she was offering to every other count'
and which they spurned at and refused to receive with dis°ro
—let England grant reciprocity to India, and she will recova
it with gratitude.—( Cheers.) He was not aware that he 11%
anything more to add. He was most grateful for the patieul'-v
with which the Court had listened to him, and hoped t"e'.
agreed to the suggestions he had taken the liberty of th'ressing

Gut. pet'
Mr. R. C. FERGUSON then rose and said the Hon. HU° at
ought not to draw his conclusions from the printed debategor
the India question, as to the attention paid it by Hon. Igebo
hers, for so great wis the apathy of the public upon it t
the editors of newspapers had found it unnecessary to
at
their columns with it ; to such an extent had that
been carried that he had seen a debate Of se :la.
or eight hours compressed into half a column. He efilio
assure the Honourab e Baronet and the Court that nr"the
occasion had the question of Indian affairs come before bad
House, since he had had the honour of a scat in it, but he r,
to the utmost of his ability supported the interests of India 101
commercial point of view, particularly when the question affecs
the interests of the natives—(Cheers)—and so long as be lo
able he would continue so. Even when connected with te,
e°
late Government he had given utterance to the same s
lear
meats. He trusted that they would get the same aoknow bet
ment from the present President of the Boardof Trade ae t
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had got from his friend Mr. P. Thompson. /11 era'
The CHAIRMAN said they had had interviews with ~ar bt
went upon the subject of the duty upon coffee, and he that lest
there was a chance of relief. They should, howevertoof
their claim for a reciprocity on sugar, and all the rest would
folow. By equalizing the duty the produce of India WO
increase considerably. That of the Mauritius hid since 40
increased from 100,0001bs. to 550,00011)s. Thirty Years tor.
the imports of manufactures from India were two millions!„/ ;
ling, of which the Company's investment was 1,500,0uv_.."01
but last year their imports were only 12,8001. The it-0700
cotton manufactures into India were now 1,900,000/, an be
had annihilated Indian manufactures. With recipro fa
thcught India would still be able to supply heavy goods ro.
this market ; without it it would be difficult for India to nob
vide for the political debt. Already India had been tacit.,
drained of the precious metals, and a want was felt of a
culating metallic currency. British
Mr. FIELDER thought runt ought to be included, as 7w.
skill and capital which raised sugar would produce rum a'itioubt
Mr. WEEDING supported the petition. He had 11° age.
of India being able to remit sufficient to meet all the ell
ments of the East India Company. tile
The CHAIRMAN explained that as the China trade Patiodis
dividends to the proprietors as well as the home charges esof
would now have to provide for the annuity, and the charfitot
Law Commissioners, &c., and she would have in retur,iceas
so much as the surplus of the commercial assets would re;uid
in the shape of interest on the territorial property. That equal
not be so much as 630,000/. per annum: India under
duties would be able to make remittances. t ati°'
A PROPRIETOR contended that the commerce of a greatii h 0
ber of people in India ought not to be allowed to Lang ;Vs
meet the interest of any class, as a time might come
India would vindicate
ELVILLE her riglAs. ; et tel°
The 'Hon. Mr. M said as the great expel.' ~, —e to pr
going forward in the West Indies, this was a bad tiala,lre oat
tition for an equalization of dnty, and they ought to lei'
sugar and ask generally for all the produce of India. /pig-
ht
Mr. C. FERGUSSON said if they left out sugar 014
give up the petition altogether.
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The CHAIRMAN agred in this opinion nser"
The petition was unanimously adopted. , coffee beinglto pre'
as well as sugar ; and Mr. C. Fergusson was requested
sent and support it.
DATLEYBURY COLLE. el
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Mr. FIELDER said it was a disgrace to the Brit-sh,baP° his
t tbli
to
and might produce injurious consequences in India, ' tett;
College should be allowed to remain. The disgrace °boys I
be washed out immediately. There were forty-oneool
the College, with forty-four Professors, DeputY-Pri, Ole
masters, and attendants, at an annual expense of 8, lice, 11;
averaged 4551. 10s. 9d. for each boy. The disciPi 1: Ott
was greatly relaxed. The College, on the first 051tt 'ci bei
96,000/., and in thirty-nine years the expense aillis cu.
979,106/. He should give notice of a motion that t
tiss
lege should be abolished.
ndell'lls for
The CHAIRMAN deprecated the unqualified sc ;fete,
eit,
which had been made as to the morality of the C° ~ 0
It hel
.
which no ground existed. Young men would be 10? cce, I"-
and whether at Oxford, Cambridge, or any other pig -
would be guilty of improprieties. lit
Mr. FIELDER said he should persevere ; and i, broago
Mr. TWINING regretted that such a charge should l'ecoold
forward, when three months must elapse before it
refuted.
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THE JOUDPORE AFFAIR. ce,e
A Proprietor asked if any despatches had been re the
of I,
lative to this subject ?
anxiety tc"'
The CHAIRMAN said he could relieve the , desPsolr
Hon. Proprietor. He had received a demi-official', had ‘5,01
dated the sth of December, stating that the gnia"a,,prc''"
mitted, and consequently there was no reason to r
war.—The Court then adjourned.
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The public revenue of Wurtemberg, ir °r t
cest°.,a
financial year, shows a considerable surplus. Illorins, a"
have exceeded the estimates by the sum of 377,725 Net'
the receipt of last year by 394,549 florins.—Germaa
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B I THS.
lady 0f J.
vorli'
On the 6th inst., in Grosvenor-streetB,
the '
Hoy, Esq., M.P., of a son, still-born. v.a., of
On the 17th inst., the lady of Cecil Monro, -.--s • Abele
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terrace,'Regent's Park, of a son. ~ Jo" „
On the 13th inst., in Albion -street, Hyde-Park, '''. low
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of a daughter.
On the 14th inst., at Goldicote House, Warwickshire' of #
of Charles Sergison Smith, Esq., of a son and heir.
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On the 13th inst., at Islington, Mrs. Henry o -
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13th inst., at Welwyn, the lady
dauognhttehre.
Esq., of a daughter.
Ile('
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On the 17th inst., at St. Mary's, Bryanstone-sql, iiroluilose
MARRIED.
his eldest son, James King Simpkinson, ESq,
James Simpkinson, Rector of St. Peter-le-Poor. 0.1,, Coc,
to A 741%100 rper
Of Henry FYl'-
fourth daughter of the late K. F. Mackenzie, Est',,,, Att°
street, Portman-square, and formerly his Alae'
General at the Island of Grenada. ty
DIED. hariel°
A drew aton• in
On the 10th inst., at Cheltenham, aged 17, A." ilooll.- 14.
milton, only son of the late Lieut.-Colonel Andrew Bot.,
of,
On the 17th inst., Commander Sir Peter Parker,
aged 55.
On the 13th inst., in Kemp Town, Brighton, Willi° l'el:lth,‘
Esq. relict wel'f
MarY, , chis
On the 17th inst ,at Abele Grove, Epsom" tow 00,
lite John Wedderb.urn, Esq., of Devonshire-stree ,
go,
EsOsenx,tlaigeed6t7ho.inst., at Stonchouse, age" ' '''''',„.l%iig.°9sieut-Pe°'-5'
M.A., formerly Professor of Belles Lettres at P ~._,,,, oi b
MeEit
rcOv,nwthaehllo6rtthh.inst., in his 83d year, Mr. Joseph Pli6,
Smith, who A jit AO,
yw,hontwas Quarrysl.aggolnlearlli,n naenaroblEemridagne,snfoarnithiiy,ag asen:clS lite.ortt3ibioet
of drinking a gallon of ale per day, independent and 6:2 go:: , gyp,
therefore drank the quantity of 228 hogshea,d!
squirrel for
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forty years. He also was huntsman to the ` ',Vriday,
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up in that part of the country ou every Good i'
oll°'
cessire years.;;iifiCi, 0401
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