The Sun.
London, England, 1835-07-04 00:00:00

EDUCATION.

• Lord BROUGHAM rose, according to the notice which
he gave on Friday last, to call the attention of their Lordships
to a Bill which he proposed to introduce upon the subject of
Education. After the long discussionswhich had already taken
place on this subject, it would not be necessary for him to enter
upon it at any length. The only point to which he would call
their attention was the constitution of the Board of Commis-
sioners. He pr6posed that it should consist of two classes
of persons—first, the Ministers of the Crown, who
should be responsible to the Crown and to Parliament, and
secondly, of three persons appointed by the Crown, whose func-
tions should be inquisitorial and quasi-judicial. It was neces-
sary that they should be appointed by the Crown, as the Crown
was the fountain of all judicial offices, and that they should
be under the authority of Parliament, which was the fountain
of all Commissions. He proposed that the Commissioners should
not be removable except upon an address of both Houses of
Parliament, and he hoped that the Board would be a vigilant,
constant, and perfectly effectual control over the abuses of
trustees ofcharitable funds. The great object was to do every-
thing as far as possible to empower the trustees without at
provisions of a compulsory nature, and if they found those
powers wholly insufficient, they must then have recourse to
compulsory provisions. He moved that the Bill be read a
first time, and he hoped that they would be able to get through
Committee upon it before the Municipal Corporation Bill
should come up from the other House.
AFFAIRS OF SPAIN.

On the motion being put,
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY rose to offer a few
observations with reference to a conversation which took
place yesterday evening in that House, upon the subject of a
decree stated to have been issued by Don. Carlos. The
Noble Viscount opposite (Melbourne) said that he consi-
dered that decree a forgery. He (Lord L.) had received a
letter upon the subject, but he would not take upon himself to
answer for the correspondence. The writer stated he had seen
the original decree in Spanish, and that he had no doubt of
its authenticity. He would urge upon the Noble Viscount to
take some effectual means to ascertain what was the real con-
struction that was to be put upon the Spanish Convention.
The troops who were going to Spain, might know no-
thing of the revengeful nature of the Spaniards, and it
was of the utmost importance to them to know whe-
ther this Convention was to be carried into effect, as

it was the intention of the Noble Duke ( Wellington)
that it should be. A new case had arisen since then, and he
called upon the Noble Viscount to ascertain whether the bene-
fits of this conviction were to be extended to our unfortunate
countrymen.

No other Noble Lord having risen, the motion of Lord
Brougham was put and carried.
COMMISSIONERS OF EDUCATION.

Lord FARNHAM—A Return had been ordered by that

House from the Board of Commissioners in Ireland. It h-ad not
yet been made, and he gave notice that he would move that
such Return be forthwith made, and if not, he would move that

the Secretary of the Commission be brought to the bar of the
House.

Lord DUNCANNON had made enquiry, and found that
a very voluminous Report upon the subject had been laid on
the table of the other House.

Lord FARNHAM—That Report was from the Board of
Public Instruction. He believed that the two Reports were
confounded together by the Noble Lord.
Lord HATHERTON could inform the House that the
Commissioners of Education were not in possession of the
information which was required from them.
Lord FARNHAM—Then the Commissioners were wrong
in not stating that fact.
The Bishop of EXETER certainly thought that the Com-
missioners ought to have made some Return to the ordor of
that House.

Lord FARNHAM then moved that the ReturiLbe forth-
with made, and the subject dropped.
IRISH CHURCH.

The Bishop of GLOUCESTER presented a petition from
a parish in his diocese against any alienation of Church pro-
perty.

BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.

Lord BROUGHAM said, that it was now the 3d of
July, and their progress had hitherto amounted to Zero.
There was, indeed, a great mass of judicial business
but no legislation. As from the votes of the other House, he
perceived that they could not have the Municipal Corpo-
ration Bill sent up for two or three weeks, and as there
was another very important measure connected with
the Irish Church, which was intended to be introduced
this session, he thought the better plan would be to take
the discussion upon these Bills upon resolutions, and then,
when the Bills themselves came up, they would have only to
discuss the details.

Lord MELBOURNE said that the circumstance alluded
to by the Noble and Learned Lord was not the fault of ally
person or persons, but the consequence of circumstances. If
Commissions were to be issued, and Reports made, and mea-
sures founded on them, time must necessarily be consumed.
The Duke of WELLINGTON wished not for the resolu-
.tions, but for the information on which the Bill was to be
founded ; for he believed that but two parts of the appen-
dixes to the Irish Church Report had been laid before their
Lordships. He wished to see the other two parts; and be
thought that the best way in which they could occupy their
time till the Bill came up from the Commons, would be by a
perusal of those parts which had been laid before the Com-
mons, but not before their Lordships.
After a few words from the Marquis of LANSDOWNE
and the Earl of DEVON as to the arrangements to have an
earlier supply of printed Reports, the conversation dropped.
IRELAND—PROCESSIONS.
Lord LONDONDERRY, pursuant to notice, called the
attention of their Lordships to the circular of the Lord Lieu..
tenant. The Noble Lord here read the letter of the Lord-
Lieutenant.

" Dublin Castle, June 19, 1835.
" SlR,—The Lord Lieutenant prefers to any public, proclamation
the present mode of calling your attention to the peculiar vigilance
which occasions may shortly require, in the exercise of your magis-
terial duties. His Excellency takes this course, because he feels
assured that your own inclination, as well as the interest you must
naturally take in the peace and welfare of your neighbourhood,
must induce you to discourage proceedings so destructive of both,
whether they have reference to the celebration, by procession or
other display, of the anniversary of an exclusive political event, or
of an exclusive religious observance.
" Should you, therefore, have reason to believe that it is the
intention of any party to make a display of the nature of that to
which I have adverted, you will explain to them that such a pro-
ceeding has a direct tendency to provoke a breach of the peace, and
is a violation of the lace, which it is his Excellency's determination
to support by every means in his power.
" I have the honour to be, Sir, your most obedient, humble
servant, WM. GOSSETT."
If this letter had been signed by the Noble Viscount opposite,
or by Lord John Russell, it would have been much more na-
tural, for not to go back to the question of the exhibition of
emblems at the late procession, he asserted that it was in the
power of the Lord Lieutenant to have prevented the exhibi-
tion. In his opinion a proclamation would have been better
than a letter, and that course was the most usual. This letter
was looked upon as a reproach to the Magistracy which they
certainly did not deserve. The Magistrates would persevere,
as they always had done, in performing their duty, and the
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