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UPPLY,

The Homo having retiolved itself into a Com-
mittee of Stippty, to whii:ll the several Estimates
presenitti were ordered to he referred,
Sir PHILIP STE PITENG moved tor an additional
Vote of .to,ooo Seamen, including 8,000 Marines,
fur seven months.

Coload WOOD thouptit 8 coo Marines not a suf.
ficient nu it waS 114 wiyh 111,0 die increaed
littin!,lQ.r. of Marines shouiLt amount to Z 0,00().
Sir PHILIP (CTE PIiSIVS saiti, that the present
number was according to their usual proportion,
which w:4 one fifth of the number of Seamen.

Mr. BASTARD highly complimented the ger-
y'ieel of the IN/fames on former occasions :—be
thought Marines might be made useful on shore. as
well as on ship-ho4rd, therefore their numbers
,
ougo i t 10 %),2 rcre.fseo,,

We SECRETARY at IV4i tinnily concurred
in ati the praises given to the Marines for their
contnci on many accaiions. tie observed chat the
number of Marines propmed might be augmented if
licce„,iry required it, hitt their number waa already
;water than on forwr oceasinust, _ _

TEMPLE expressed a wish to know the
noinher cat' Seamen at present employed in iiis Ma.
je..ity's Service.
Sir PIIILIP STEPHENS stated the number, as
w,::. nrulerstood ,U aQ,OOO.

Tb‘, WiriNc'LLI,QN G Ibe IP(Cite.QUER
Ilivt)411( 3 rict;gssi,y to 61 A fcw words 411 otc4;

11141. 111. 1.4.40*
41 X 1,114 141 /Sill 11,, ,••••••••• •
the exatct number of Seamen at present in His IY!ajes.
ty's Service were seventy thousand men ; the num.
her required, by the Ships now in commission, was
eighty thousand, idle complement was therefore in.
complete by about ten thousand. _ _ _

the Resolution was then agreed to, and the ful.
lowing sums were also voted.

sitioevi. for Wars.
53z,0001. tbr Viitttals.
Li*-.o.)ol. for Wear and Tear of Vessels.
70,0b01. t)rdnance for Sea Service.

300,0o:1. for the Transport Service.
65,0001. for the 74.1aintenance of Prisoners of War.

2,0*0t. for the Sick.

54,9001. 73. id. for the Barrack Department of Irthrul.

Mr. CORRY then moved, that provision should
be made for paying and cloathing the Militia of
Ireland.

The House resumed, and the Report was ordered
to be brought up on Monday.
Mr.'WICKHAM brought up the Irish First Fruits
Bill, which was read a first ttme, and ordered to
be printed, and read a second time on Monday next.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCIIEVER
moved the Order of the Day, for the House to re.
solve itself into a Committee of the whole House
on the Customs Consolidation Bill. The Right
Hon. Gentleman then begged leave to say a tew
words with respe& to the nature of the Duties he
had to propose, in order to save the House much
trouble in discussing the merits of the Bill. Peti.
tions had been presented from the Lace Manu.
faanrers of many Counties, praying for the pro.
tedion of their trade : he had to observe, that
it was impossible to prevent Foreign Lace from be.
ing brought into this Country, as a great quantity
of tt May be: concealed in a small compass ; it was
therefore necessary to lay such a duty on it as would
afford proteelioir to the fair trader : in doing this he
Mould propose an ad valorem Daty of to per
cent. and .as there was no inducement 'to encourage
and support a , Foreign Trade, from the best in-
forMation he could get, the duty he proposed was
calculated to serve the trade of the Country. He
was sorry to observe, that illicit importation has
very 'much increased, and the regular trade of the
Country been on a decrease. The great objed was
to destroy the trade of the Smuggler, which if once
destroyed, would be found difficult to raise again.
Also wished to lay a Duty of 3o per cent.
on. Foreign Porcelain, and if that should not be
found effeCtual, to increase the duty to 8o per cent.
The next point on which he should say kfew words
was, the Silk Trade. Large quantities of. Bengal
Silk have been imported, notwithstanding the exer-
tion of the Custom-house Officers to prevent and de.
test it ; and from the best information he could
get on the subjed, 25 per cent. would not be suf.
tiCient to prevent the importation of it. It, hoW_
ever, is not to be eXpeded that during the War,
Ships will be fitted out for trading in this article,
therefore, the prohibition of Bengal Silk can be re-
newed at a future period.
Lard TEMPLE expressed his high approbation
of the Chancellor ,of the Exchequer's statement to
the House, and then made a few remarks on the
subjett.
Lord Gowast, Alderman Comay, and Mr.
MACNAMARA, said a few words on the subj,:d,
through which they conveyed their thanks the
Right Hon. the CHANC LLOR of the Excli rgu ea,
for the handsome manner he had given the House
informition on the nature of ritc intended Unties.

GeNem' G ,ISCOY NE said, he did not List: to
thank the-Right Hon.. Gentlernin for his candour,
as other Gentlemen had done, but he .•rose to make
some observations upon the propriety' of extending
the principle of the Tonnage Dcty to Ireland. It
might he said, that as the Revenue of the two
Countries was distina, the Taxes ought to be so
too; but he contended that by the Union it was
settled that the two Countries should be placed
upon the same footing upon points relating to 'Cradle
and Navigation. He was facfrom wishing to
pose any Tax upon Ireland which would be injuri.
otis or oppres:lve; and if it could be proved that the
extension-of this Duty to Ireland would be injuri.
ow, he for one would not- pressit; but he would
resist the idea that Ireland should be exempted as a'
matter of right. lle thought there;was less reason for
objeCling to this Duty on the part- of Ireland, be.
cause she had gained every thing in point of Trade
by. the Union, and England had gained nothing.
If Ireland was entitled w any exemption of this
kind, Scotland was equally entitled to it, because
the Article respeding 't rade in the Union with
Scotland was nearly similar to the Article in the
Union with Ireland. It certainly was not with
any view to Profit th4t he made this proposition,
because if the -Duty was extended to Ireland, it
would not produce above 3 or 40001. but whatever
the produce might be it would be applicable. to the
service of Ireland alone. - He concluded with mov.
lug, " That it be an instration to the Committee,
that the principle of the Tonnage Duty he extended
to Ireland."

The SPEAKER said, this Motion could not now
be regularly put, because as its objed was to lay a
Tax upon the subjed, it must first be proposed in
a Committee of the whole I looNe.

Mr. CURRY rose for the purpose of replying to
-General GAICOYNE, but the, SPEALER informed
him it wouid he irregular, as the Hon. Gentleman's
Motion could not be put.

General GASCOYNE then rose to move, as an.
other instruCtion to the Committee, that no greater
Duty should be laid on the Out.Pnrts by the pre.
sent Bill than on the Port of London. He sail it
had been the established praCtice for many centu.
ries, that there should be a difference between the
Duty on importation in the Out. Potts and in Lon.
don, but it was proposed now to make the Duty on
Wine the same in all If this principle WAS once
admitted, the Out. Ports might be called upon to
pay the same Duty on Coals as was paid in Lon.
don. He concluded with moving his Resolution.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, the Hon. Gentleman's Mottos, was very irre-
gular, because it was moving an insiruition to the
Committee not to agree to that which A previous
Comtuittee had agreed to. If the Hon. G4..ntlenian
objeded to any part of these Duties, the regular
time for him to oppose them would be when the
Bill was in a committee.

General GAsoonis tilen withdrew
1110 tiou4C iCSoiVcti i44cif into Cutwoittee

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Dta in the Chair.

A conversation' arose on the subjea of the Duty
upon Wine imported into► the Out. Parts, and mak..
ing it equal in them to that which is now imposed
upon Wine imported into London.

Mr. VANS h Ris observed, that the principle
Of this Resolution was fair upon the face of it,, nor
had he beard any thing said to shew that it was
objedionable in any point of view. He was not
aware of the reason for having made a distinetion
between London and the Outer Ports in this re..
spelt ; he had never heard it stated, nor was he
able to see how it arose ; but however that might
have been, he was confident there was no reason for
continuing the difference between the Port-of Lon.
don an the Outer Potts in that respect. He saw
no reason why the Out. Ports should be favoured at
the expense of London in this particular, and
therefore he thought that this Resolution for the
equalization of the Duty upon Wine in the differ.
ent Ports of England, was proper.
Mr. IfiALPOLE observed, that the Out-Ports
had many 'disadvantages when comeared to Lon.
don : they were subjeet to many inconveniences
from which London was free: they had not the same
facility in disposing of property as London had;
besides, he apprehended it to be the policy of this
Country to increase as much as possible the Coast.
ing Trade, and that could not be done without
encouraging it, and this ,Resolution would have a
contrary effect,
Mr. VAN4ITTART observed, that some of the
arguments which were urged against this Resolu-
tion' applied (if they had any force) to every arts.
de that was imported into any of out Our.Portt;
for under the head of encouragement to the Coast.
ing Trade, every article imported into soy one of
the Out-Ports might be excused-a part of the Duty
which is now imposed upon it, because it was equal
to that which was imposed on the tame thing in
London, so that we should have a new scale of
taxation altogether, one for London and another for
the Out-Ports • but the present Resolution was found.
ed on the broad principle of justice, which required
an equality of impost for the support of the State.
Mr. WALPOLE expressed his apprehension that
this Resolution would diminish the trade of Wine
in the Out-Ports, and increase it in London.
The LORD MAYOR of LONDON observed,
that the apprehensions of Hon. Gentlemen on the
subject of London being a favoured Port, were
groundless. The ha was, and indeed mast be
from the nature of things, that the Port of Lon-
don had a greater expense attending all the business
which was done in it, than any other Port, and
had some peculiar imposts to aired it.

After sorne further tzonversation between General
GAscoywn, Mr. BRAGGE, and Sir MAturts
FoLicEs,

The CITANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, he was anxious to state it was not fur the
sake of ,any gain to' the City of London that titi3
measure was. proposed, but that it was founded on
the principle of fair equality.
Mr. KINN 41RD expressed a bore that the Hon.
General would not persist in his opposition.
. The part of the Bill alluded to, was then agreed
to.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved,
that this House do ttionorrow morning resolve it.
self into a Committee of the whole flonse, cc con,,,
sider of so much of His Majetity's Speech as relatest
:Li facilities to be afforded to mercantile transattions.
—Ordered.-4-le then said, that in the Committee
he should propose an additional Duty of 30 per
cent. on alt Foreign Porcelain imported into this
Country.

The Irish Ship Burnifig Bill was brought in by
Mr. CORBY.---Read a . first time, and ordered to
he reat4 a second time tr•-motraw,

The second reading of the Bribery Oath Bill was
deterted to Tuesday.
Deferred Ways .4 nd Means to Monday, and
Committee on East India Ships Bill to.morrow.
Adjourned at seven o'clock till tomorrow.

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