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self—e Cis a judge removable at the pleasure of ale Crown
1-1•I'10- and yet:: that to him sitting alone was entrusted, not only
- the di. rpoaal of property, but the settling of the rights to
props. sty of an immerse amount, and that that judge was,
whet', aer he willed it or not, a political as well as judicia,
char acter ! It was only necessary for him to fill their Lord-
shii re' minds with the reasons with which his own was so
strongly impressed, to make him certain that they would'
agree with him that much longer this anomaly could not
last. What was then to he done ?—To separate the func-
tions now exercised by this high officer ; not to let him be
at once a judge sitting alone, a judge removable at plea-
sure, the Speaker of that House, an official adviser of the
Crown, and performing that which was incident to the
Speakership of that House; functions that ought not to
be exercised alone, but with the advice and assistance and
under the control of others. If this were done, a great
anomaly would at once be put an end to ; and this might
he done without any increase of patronage, and without
the expenditure of one shilling of the public money. His
opinion was, that the provision made by Parliament for
the sustentation of the Keeper of the Great Seal was most
amply sufficient, and that that Officer of State and great
Equity Judge should be immoveable. It might be neces-
sary somewhat to remodel the salaries of the judges; and
he should be doing injustice to a most able and honourable
judge if he did not say that, in his opinion, the salary of
the Chief .Justice of the Court of Common Pleas could no
longer be suffered to remain higher than that of the
Master of the Rolls. Indeed there was no conceivable
reason why one salary should have been made higher
than the other in the first instance, particularly as the
Master of the Rolls was the superior in professional rank,
except that the Master of the Rolls then enjoyed the ad •
vantage of a house attached to the Court, in which he
held his sittings. Now that house had since been
given up the Master of Rolls to the service of the
public, and no compensation whatever had been made
him, so that it was indispensable that some arrange-
ment of a different kind must now take place so as not
to leave him, the superior judge, with the inferior salary.
It was fit it should be known that the opinions he was
now stating were strictly his own, and that in what he
was saying he was not committing any one of his col-
leagues. The reasons which he had alleged here, and else-
where, on the subject of the Reform in the Court of
Chancery, were not disproved by the experience he had had
of that Court, but were incalculably increased in force and
number by the result of that experience. He should take
this opportunity of answering some objections that had
been publicly made, elsewhere, respecting the funds out of
it which the charges in respect of the new salaries were to be
defrayed. Some persons, from their great ignorance of
the state of those funds, had asserted that they had been
dealt with by Parliament to the injury of the suitors.
They were not dealt with by the Court, because the Court
bad no power of dealing with them; but they had been
dealt with by Parliament, but with no injury whatever to
the suitors. The funds now forming the funds of the Court
of Chancery were composed from different sources. The
suitors of the Court of Chancey were entitled to many mil-
lions, which hid from time to time been paid into Court, and
which stood in the nameand to the credit of the Accoun rant-
General. From time to time application were made by
different suitors to have portions of these funds invested in
the public stock, and the party who was ultimately found
entitled to the sums so invested was then entitled to the
dividends arising from them, and these dividends were
regularly carried to his account. This fund never had
liven dealt with by Parliament. But besides the funds
thus formed, there were others formed in quite a different
manner. There was a floating balance of cash, which was
raked tile Dead Fund, because it did not bear interest, and
respecting which no application had been made to have it
laid out in public securities. Now that fund has, from
time to time, been dealt with by Parliament. By several
Acts of Parliament, certain sums had been ordered to be
taken from that cash account, which wasprecisely in the
pature of a banker's balance. 'The Court, like the banker,
.vas ready to pay what it lsad received trout the suitor or
(9140111 e., what wag entered in his name, -or what he was

it was sufficient for him to state- on iy~
this tund was formed, in order to sweep away, at once and
for ever the idea of Parliament having fione any thing
which they had nut a right to do. lie should now -only
add one word with rrspF;;,•t to the Bankruptcy Carrot, The
savings under the new system, after paying all the saia.
ries of all the officers, left a balance, as compared with
the former system, of 36,0001. a year. The saving on
the Judges' salaries alone was 9,600/, but the whole
savings, including those on reassignmenta and bar.
gains and silo-, amounted to 43,000/. a year,
from which must be deducted between 6 and 7,000/.
as permanent compensations, which left the ha•
lance at the sum he had already stated, namely at
36,0001. a year. This saving of 36,000/. a year would
be the ultimate and permanent saving ; but the amount
would not for the present be so great, on account of the
sums to be paid for compensation. It would not for a
time he more (as we understood the Learned Lord) than
14,000/. per annum. But this reduction in expense was,
he considered, the least part of the benefit. He had
been disappointed, and he regretted ihat he bad been dis-
appointed in one respect—that was in the reduction of the
number of Commissioners and Judges. He thought that
ten would have been sufficient; and if be had been suc.
ceasful in his opposition to his learned coadjutors in this
matter, he believed (he could not be certain) that it would
not have been found that these Learned Commissioners and
Judges, taking them at the number of ten, were too few
for the discharge of their duties. The six Commissioners
had certainly enough to do, but the Court of Review was
as decidedly under-worked ; and he hoped to be enabled,
at an early period of next Session, to throw some addi-
tional labour upon those learned and excellent persons be-
longing to this Court—labour which they were so well
qualified to bear. He proposed to add to their labours
by connecting them with the Insolvents' Court, whence
he did not apprehend they would have too much labour,
while the country would be inza,lzulably benefited by the
fact of there being a greater number cf circuits of judges,
and their always having acres; to the Cour;;. To prove
the advantage of the new system over the old, he stated
that the average number of dividends in the months of
_November and December were 115 ; but that in the No-
atember and December of 1831, through the effects of the
new arrangements, the number amounted to 639. The
Noble:and Learned Lord also stated, that one Commis-
sioner had recovered within the last six months arrears to
the amount of 50,0001. ; and he cited several cases to
show the more speedy operation in cases of bankruptcy,
under the new system, and particularly referred to the case
of Sir G. Duckett, which, he stated, would be settlt d
within the twelvemonth. From alt that he had said be
was anxious to draw the conclusion, that th_ working of
the new system was moat satisfactory; and he coueluded
by expressing his gratitude to the gentlemen of London
for the cordial and hearty support ha had received kali
them in this measure, although in many ead,a their pre-
judices were thwarted, and in some their interests were
affected.

• The-Bill was then brought in, and read a first time.
f The appearance of the House was-strange during the
delivery of the greater part of the Learned Lord's speech.
There was only a glimmering of light, and there were but
four Peers to represent their Lordships' House—The
Chairman of Committees (Lord Shaftesbury), the Duke
of Sussex, and the Earls of Fife arid Rosslyn. At the
conclusion of his speech the Lord Ch,zncellor departed.
He was followed by the Earl of Rosslyn and th,e Duke of
Wellington, who had been engaged in conversation with
some gentlemen below the Bar.l
The Earl of SHAFTESBURY took his place on the
Woolsack as Deputy-Speaker ; and the following Bills,
with the Lords' amendments agreed to by the House of
Commons, were brought up by messengers from the
House of Commons :—The Lord Chancellor's Salary Bill,
the Tithes' Composition (Ireland) Bill, Party Processions
(Ireland) Bill, and the Civil List Payments Bill.
Their Lordships then adjourned to half-past 10 to•
morrow.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, AUGUST 15,
The SPEAKER entered the House at a quarter to 4
o'clock, shortly after which the House was summoned to
the House of Lords to hear the Royal Assent given l.y
commission to several Rils, fir a list of which see the
Lards' Report.

Mr. Houseman, from the Comm;ssioners of Sewer,

appeared at the bar with a'statement of the charges made
by the Commissioners.

MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS.

A, Message from the Lords announced that their Lord-
s'dps had agreed to the Forgery Bill, with amendments,
the Tithes Composition (Ireland) Bill, with amendments,
and several Bills, without any amendment.
THE FORGERY BILL.

Lord ALTHORP hoped the house would not object to
take the Lords' amendments to the Forgery Bill into con-
sideration before the House proceeded to other business.
He therefore moved that the Lords' amendments be now
considered.

The amendments having been read,
Lord ALTHORP said the important alterations made
in this Bill by the other House were the excepting forged
wills and powers of attorney for money in the public
funds from the operation of the Bill, lle for one should
have been willing to abolish the punishment of death for
forgery altogether ; but as the Bill made a very great al-
teration in the law, he would have no objection to proceed
partially at first. Considering, therefore, that the all as
it stood was a great gain in favour of abolishing the
punishment of death, he hoped the Lords' amendments
would be agreed to. He had been asked on a former
evening if he knew whether the Directors of the Bank
of E❑gland had expressed themselves in favour or against
the Bill, and he had to observe that he had recently re-
ceived a communication from the Directors that they were
unfavourable to abolishing the punishment of death in
cases of forged powers of attorney. The Noble Lord
moved that the Lards' amendments be agreed to.

Sir E. SUGDEN concurred with the amendments in-
troduced inro the Bill by the Lords.
Mr. WARBURTON would be glad to hear from the
Noble Lord opposite the reason why the Bank of Eng-
land wished an exception in the ease of powers of attorney.

Lord ALTHORP said the reason was, because the
clerks of the Bank, from their situation, knew the exact
amount of stock standing is each person's name, and though
as a body they were exceedingly respectable, yet there
might be some of that body who, from some circumstance
or other, might be induced to act dishonestly, and the Hon.
Member must be aware that on the power of attorney the
exact amount must be stated.
Mr. HUME thought the reasons stated by the Noble
Lord showed clearly a case against the exceptions in cases of
power of attorney. The Hon. Member thought it would
be better to reject the Bill altogether, than agree to
it with the exceptions. He trusted measures would be
taken in the next Parliament to remove the exceptions.
Mr. SULKS acceded to the sentiments expressed by
the Noble Lord opposite (Lord Althorp. )
Mr. HUNT 'elt it his duty to enter his protest against
the amendments, though he would not divide the House at
this late season upon the subject.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that much bad
been gained by the Bill as it now stood, though he should
lave been much better pleased had the amendments not
been inserted in the Lords.
Th., amendments were then agreed to.
TITHE COMPOSITION BILL.

Lord ALTHORP moved that the amendments made
by the Loris %,) this bib should be agreed to.
Mr. ItUTHVV.4N regretted that the law had been inter-
preted in another place, with regard to the Habeas Corpus
Art, in a light so very eAffertnt to one that was at all suffi-
citnt to give satisfaction to Ireland. The interpretation
given to it by a high authority was completely against
the spirit of all constitutional law, and would not
be submitted to in any other country than unfor-
tunate Ireland. It was a lamentable thing that Ire-
land was to be bereft of all the benefits of that glorious
act by such a subterfuge as was now brought for-
ward, and brought forward too by a man whom Ire-
land was in the habit of placing in the very front of those
whom she considered as her best benefactors in the liberal
measure of emancipation, and who appeared to have made
use of the power entrusted to him for the purpose of en-
slaving the people whom he bad so firmly supported
when he was out of power. It was unfortunate that
such doctrines should be fort with regard to Ire-

wherein his observations . _ misrepresem ..., stated, that
he had on thatoccasion expressed his grief at the occurrences,
and that he deplored the necessity, if there was any nece -
city,
of the cavalry resorting to violence against the people.
Mr. HUME asked whether the result of the inquiry
proved that the military had been called in without the
sanction and against the wish of the Bailiff of Clitherue.
and also whether viol-nee was not used by the cavalry
before the Riot Act was read.
Mr. LAMB said that the Bailiff having only at
first witnessed a small part of the outrage, certainly
was against sending for the military, but afterwards, on
hearing all that had been done, he joined with the Ma-
gistraes in the request for the military. As to the Riot
Act, it was read before the soldiers acted. The inquiry
showed that the soldiers had acted under circumstances of
great provocation, and that they conducted themselves with
great prudence.
Mr. HUNT had heard a very different version of this
affair. If elections were to be carried on at the point
of the bayonet, it was high time that the people
should arm to protect themselves against such aggressions,
as was some time ago recommended by the Times, in
respect to protection against the boroughmongers. As to
the various statements, be knew that the most abominable
falsehoods were uttered in the case of the Manchester
mi:ssaere, to protect the soldiers from punishment, and he
thought the same thing would probably occur in this case
to screen the soldiers. As to inquiries, all inquiries by
the Government were merely farces, for they were only
inquiries on one side of the question.
G. neral PHIPPS said, the Magistrates, on this occa-
sion, conducted themselves in the most exemplary manner.
Lord ALTHORP deprecated the recommendation to the
people to arm themselves as a most mischievous and dan-
gerous doctrine. The law was strong enough to punish
the guilty; and as for inquiry, Government would never
fail in instituting it wherever it was called for, as in this
ease, in which it had been conducted promptly and im.
partially.

THE SOLDIER SOMERVILLE.
Mr. HUNT presented a petition from the chairman of
the Northern Political Union in favour of the private
Somerville. The Hon. Member took that opportunity of
asking if Somerville was yet discharged, for it was under-
stood from the Right Hon. Gentleman (Sir J. C. Hob-
house) that he would be as soon as the Court of Inquiry
had terminated.
Sir J. C. HOBHOUSE said, that having understood
sumerville was to be discharged, he applied to the proper
Tamer on Saturday, and received for answer that he
might consider Somerville as virtually discharged ; his
belief was, that he was at this moment discharged, but if
he were not, at all events be would be before the end of
August.
The petition was then read.
Mr. HUNT presented a petition from the Reform As.
sociation of Manchester praying for a repeal of all the
clauses in the Reform Bill except the disfranchising clause.
Lord ALTHORP said, he would take this opportunity
of making a few observations relative to the statements
made by his Hon. Friend (the Member for Rye) on a
previous occasion, That Hon. Gentleman had stated,
that unless some alteration were made in the Reform Bill,
there would be only 758 persons entitled to vote in
Manchester, that in Blackburn there would be only 78,
in Salford there would be but a very small number, and
in Bolton on'y 84. Now he (Lord Althorp) bad received
a statement from a gentleman connected with Manchester
and its neighbourhood, which affirmed, that instead of there
being only 758 votes in the township of Manchester, and
400 in the remaining parts of the borough, there tPould
be from 7 to 8,000 persons properly qualified to vote.
That in Salford there would be from 1,100 to 1,200, in
Bolton upwards of 100, in Blackburn, instead of 78, up-
wards of 1,000. The information to which he adverted
came from a gentleman who had canvassed Black-
burn, and bad obtained upwards of eight hundred
votes. The lowest number of votes in any of the boroughs
to which the Hon. Member had referred would be up-
wards of 700. At Preston also there were from 8,000 to
7,000 qualified to vote. He (Lord A.) felt happy in being
able to make the present statement, as he must con-
fess he was greatly alarmed at the picture drawn by
his Hon. Friend. He could not but consider that the
Hon. Member was under some mistake in the obset vations
which lie made, and he could not but think the statement
extremely exaggerated.

Mr. MACAULEY said, that from a conversation he

had had with a gentleman from Yorkshire, not the
slightest inconvenience was felt in Leeds as to registration,
and he believed that observation might be extended to the
whole manufacturing districts of the West Riding of York.
Colonel EVANS said, that it appeared he had been very
much misunderstood. He had only put a supposition,
being himself totally ignorant of the nature of the consti-
tuency or the effects of the Bill in any of the boroughs
a tverted to. The assertions, however, with respect to the
Metropolitan Districts remained exactly as they were. If
the Bill were not altered with respect to them, they would
be virtually disfranchised.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE—The Noble Lord, on a former
occasion, stated that any scot and lot voter who had paid
his rates up to the day of registration would be entitled to
vote. I wish to ask him whether he meant the rates due
to sth April, or the rates due to the d iy of registration?
Lord ALTHORP—I really think that these questions
would be more fairly addressed to a lawyer tha❑ to me ;
but I apprehend that the law formerly was, that all rates
must be paid by the scot arid lot voters up to the day of
the election ; and all that is done by the present Bill is to
put the day of registration vice the day of election.—
(Hear.) Therefore, where a voter claims under the old
law, all rates must be paid up to the day of registration ;
and this would have been the case, if we had adopted the
proposition of giving all scot and lot voters throughout
the kingdom the elective franchise.
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE—Then I am able to state that
not one elector in the parish of St. George, Westminster,
will be entitled to vote —(Hear, hear. )--They have paid
their rates up to March 25 ; but if required to pay them
up to t: e day of registration, not one will be able to do
that; indeed I believe that it is already too late now to
take such a step. I had an opportunity this morning of
ascertaining that not one of the 5,144 rate-payers in St.
George's has qualified according to the opinion just deli-
vered by the Noble Lord ; while, on the other hand,
4,180 of them have paid their rates up to Lady-Day last.
And now the simple question is—Can they vote?
Lord ALTHORP—I omitted just now to state what I
have already frequently stated, that those only are disqua-
lified who refuse to pay when the demand is made on them.
That is the old law of scot and lot voting ; and that is
equally applicable under the present Act. Besides, if they
have all paid up to Lady-Day, such as occupy 101. houses
will be able to vote on that claim.
Mr. T. DUNCOAIBE—No, no.
Mr. WILKS—The Noble Lord does not appear to be
aware that subsequent rates have been made.
Mr. DUNCOMBE—I understand that only twenty-
two out of the whole parish have paid the last rate.
Sir J. C. HOBHOUSE—When the collectors of the
taxes give in their accounts to the public treasury, they
are obliged to make affidavit that they have made the de-
mand on all the rate-payers ; so that it is impossible that
any can escape that way.
Lord ALTHORP—My Right Hon. Friend having so
long been a Member for a scot and lot borough, 1 am sur-
prised that he is not aware that payment of taxes is not
necessary to entitle a scot and lot elector to vote.
Sir G. WARRENDER wished to ask whether the
Government would a:low the register to be postponed ?
He understood the Paymaster of the Forces to have inti-
mated, that in all probability no new election would take
place before December, in order to admit of the registra-
tion being perfectly completed. He therefore wished to
a-k the Noble Lord whether there was any chance of a
General Election before the register was complete ?
Lord ALTHORP—I think that it is quite impossible
for a Minister of the Crown, consistently with his duty,
to give an answer to that question.--( Hear, hear.) I
certainly did state on a former occasion, that there would
be a great inconvenience in a general election taking place
before the register was complete. lam willing to repeat
that statement ; but I think that I should be guilty of a
dereliction of duty, were I to give any pledge as to the
dissolution of Parliament ; and I must, therefore, decline
giving any answer to the Hon. Baionet.—( Hear, hear.)
Mr. HUME had seen some dozens of letters addressed
to the candidates for the Marylebone district, offering a
pledge of voting if they would pay the writers' rates ; and
it certainly was undeniable, that the clause which pressed
rno,t heavily on the new constituency was that which re-
ferred to the payment of rates by the small tradesmen,
who constituted by fir the greater bulk of the metropolitan
electors; for which reason he was of opinion that the
Bill would ❑ever be tborsughly satisfactory to the country
until it was so far modifies ias that the test of the payment
of rates should be removed abogether.
Mr. HUNT had all along denounced this Billl as a
Landlord's Bill and a Chancellor of the Exchequer's Bill;
and he therefore trusted that the ime was not far distant
when the payment of taxes would he got rid of as a test ;
because they ought to remember that it seas not any doc-
trine laid down in that House by the Noitile Lord which
constituted the legal interpretation of the 8111, He re,
Forces exiii.tha ii, is ss,,sis--si-dy,- incr re- Aftorney-General
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and as the Act states that all rates must be paid up to the
persons will not be disqualified.
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whose right did not before depend or the payment of rent
and taxes were now to be forced tc pay them to be en-
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in the House, the answers to which, whether correctly
given or not, went abroad, and generated much confusion.
The House of Commons was not the slace to answer
legal questions.

Mr: HUME contended that it was the business of that
House to settle the question, and make the laws intelligi-
ble. Legal men differed on the question ; who then was
to settle it ? There were so many difficulties arising that
it was possible there might not be enough Members to
form an Election Committee in the new Parliament. He
understood that the Right Honourable the Secretary for
Ireland (Mr. Stanley), greatly to his credit, had summoned
all the registering barristers to Dublin, ~s. state their
opinions on the new, Bill, so that a uniformity in their
decisions might he obtained. He recommended a similar
proceeding here, and if that were done, it would be
known whether there would be a necessity to summon
a short Session of Parliament before Christmas, or not.
Mr. D. WHITTLE HARVEY said no opinion could
yet be formed on the subject of the disfranchisement or
enfranchisement till the returns of those who had paid
rates and taxes were completed. Yet should it turn out
that the constituency was not so narrow as was expected, it
would not be wise to have a new Session of this con-
demned Parliament. lie believed that when the returns
were completed, it would be found tbat the constituency
was only narrowed in certain places, and that in general
the people would be found to have paid up their taxes and
rLt:s.—Petition was brought up and laid on the table.
PUNISHMENT FOR BLASPHEMY.
Mr. HUNT presented a petition from certain inhabi-
tants of London against the sentence passed on and
Warde, condemned to 18 months' imprisonment at Derby,
for blasphemy.
Mr. HUME supported the prayer of the petition. The
expression of opinion was a civil right, and he was asto-
nished that the Ministers who, out of office, were the ad-
vocates of civil and religious liberty, should, in office, lend
themselves to support such a system. We were probably
about to enrol ourselves in the conclave of despots assem-
bled at Frankfort.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said the two persons
were not sentenced to punishment for blasphemy only, but
for committing an assault on a Clergyman on the fast. day.
Their conduct was a violation of the public peace.
Mr. PERCEVAL said it was disgraceful in Members
of that House to snake themselves the channels of pre-
senting petitions to that House in favour of blasphemy.
Mr. HUNT rose to order. If the Hon. Member meant
that
himself
petition
by making himself the
can ne hle ofh
to the House, he must
appeal to the Speaker whether or not the Hon. Member
was in order.
channel
presentingdisgueetdhe

The SPEAKER was understood not to support Cllr.
Hunt's view ; and

Mr, PERbEVAL proceeded—What ire meant to otate

was, that when persons were brought before the Courts of
Justice, and were punished by the laws of the country for
blasphemy, that it was most disgraceful in any man to
support those who were condemned by the laws. If men
avowed themselves blasphemers it was disgraceful to them,
and it was disgraceful to such Members of that House as
presented their petitions. He meant no personal offence; he
was only laying down a principle that ought to be alway s
attended to. All their actions ought at all times to be re-
gulated with a regard to the glory of God. It was dis-
graceful to any men—to any Christians—to lose sight of
that. He wished his Majesty's Government to look to
this. The proceedings to which this petition adverted,
and petitions vindicating those proceedings, were sapping
the moral principles and degrading the minds of the
p-ople. There had set in, in the country, a horrible tide
of moral depravity under the surface of society. It bad
not yet come to their ears—it had not yet entered their
doors; but it was working its way in secret, and would
speedily burst upon their notice. The Hon. Member was
proceeding in this strain, when

Mr. HUNT rose and moved that the House be counted.
There was some demur, and Mr. Perceval again attempted
to speak ; but Mr. Hunt reiterated his motion—l move,
Sir, that the House be counted.

Strangers were ordered to withdraw, and there being
only thirty-two Members present the House was necessa-
rily Adjourned.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.

GOODWOOD RACES, Auausr 14.
Chichester, Tuesday Night
. _

The assemblage on the race ground this afternoon was
highly fashionable, but, contrary to general expectation,
it was decidedly less numerous than last year. The sport
too was inferior, and there was a general dullness notice-
able, that could scarcely have been anticipated at so popular
a meeting—all seem to be reserving themselves for the Cup
day. The principal personages in the Grand Stand were—
the Duke and Duchess of Richmond, and family, Duke
and Duchess of Argyll, Marquis and Marchioness of Ta-
vistock, Marquis of Exeter, Earl Jersey, Earl Verulam,
Earl and Countess of Lichfield, Earl and Countess of
Mountcharles, Earl of Uxbridge, Earl Stradhroke, Count
Matuszewic, Lord George Bentinck, Lord John Fitzroy,
Lord C Manners, Lord W. Lennox, Lord George Lennox,
Lo, d R Grosvenor, Lady Sophia Lennox, Lady Georgiana
Paget, Hon. Colonel Russell, Hon. Captain Rous, Hon.
B. Craven, Colonel Udney, Colonel Cosby, Colonel Lyster,
Lord Albert Conyngham, Captain and Lady Agnes Byng,
Mr. C. Greville, Mr. Sloane Stanley, Mr. Willan, Mr.
Hunter, Mr. Rush, Mr. Payne, Mr. Thornhill, Mr. Shaw,
Sir L. Glyn, Sir S. and Lady Graham, Sir M. Wood,
Baron de Tesier, &c.

We give a few additional particulars of the princip 11
races this afternoon, from which it will be collected that
the favourites were beaten in every instance :

Two-years old.—After about four false starts they came
off at score—Lord Egremont's filly being in front, Weeper
waiting on her, and the others pretty well up; the pace
told unusually quick for half a distance from home. Ad-
vance, Gift, and Duckling were completely tailed off; the
other two kept abreast, horn the stand till a few strides
from the chair, when Weeper went away from her com-
panion, and won cleverly by a length—rode by Chapple,
Harpalice by Arnull, advance by Conolly, Duckling by
Boyce, and Gilt by Pavis. Betting-11 to 8 on Harpa-
lice, 5 to 1 agst.Weeper (taken), and 5 to 1 agst. Advance.
The match was a poor affair.-2 to 1 on Zebra, who
was beaten easy ; Pavis rode Tarquin.
Drawing Ri,om Stakes--Betting 6 to 5 on Posthumous,
7 to 2 on Beiram (taken), and 5 to 1 agst. Spencer. The
last-mentioned horse made the running at a very moderate
pace. Posthumous lying second, three or four lengths off,
and Beiram third ; nor was there any change till about a
mile from home, unless it was that Posthumous got still
further astern of Spencer in cooling round the hill.
About a distance and a half from home Spencer gave up,
Beiram and Posthumous going in front. The race was
not long doubtful, for at the stand Beiram went in front,
and won cleverly by a length rode by Conolly; Posthu-
mous, by Robinson; Spencer, by Arnull; Margaret, by
G, Edwards; and Scandal, by Forth.
The Innkeepers' Plate of 5 soya., and 25 added.
Mr. Dockeray's Rosebud, Sst. 41b (Robinson) 1 1
Mr. Oliver's Chancery Suit, Sat. 41b 2 3
Mr. Forth's Vertigo, 7st
Mr. Moore's Hatable, ist 4 4

Wednesday.
Sweepstakes of 50 sous. each, h, ft., for 3-yrs-old ; colts,

Sst. 71b. ; fillies, Sst. 41b. A mile.

Ten subs,

Duke of Richmond's Hyder and Lord Chesterfield's
Olga ran a dead heat.-7 to 4 on Hyder.

The Goodwood Stakes of 25 sous. each. Sixty-nine subs,
of whom 15 paid 15 soys, each, and 41 only 5 sovs.
t"./..ccia J. f tzroy named CZngeing, 41* '"
-1-."'""Th
un) yrs.,
The iollowing also warted, Esc, en, 2
General Grosvenor's Sarpedon, a yr,
Captain Byng's Ciudad Rodrigo, 4 yrs.
Mr. Rush's f. by Whalebone, 3 yrs.
Lord Uxbridge's f. by Sultan, 3 yra.
Lord Tavistock's Pedro, 4 yrs.
Mr. Howe's The Screw, 4 yrs,
Mr. Day's Lucy, 3 yrs.
Mr. J. Day's Shark, 5 yrs.
Mr. W. Day's Giantess, 3 yrs.
Lord Tavistock's Schoolmaster, 3 yrs.
Lord Egremont's Sister to Tom Thumb, 3 yrs.
5 to 2 agst. Screw ; 3 to 1 agst. Shark; 4 to 1 agst.
Lueetta 12 to 1 agst. Sarpedon ; 12 to 1 agst. School-
master ; 10 to 1 agst. Rush.—Won by a head.
The Ladies' Plate was not run.

Wednesday Night.
BETTING ON TILE GOLD CUP.
11 to 10 agst Lord Chesterfield's Priam
7 to 2 agst Mr. Itidsdale's St. Giles
7 to 1 agst Mr. Gully's Lady Fly (taken)
8 to 1 agst Lord Exeter's Beiram
High odds agst. Rowton, whose starting is considered
doubtful.

New Matches for to-morrow.
.50 each, h. ft.—Lord Jersey's Fingall agst. Lord Ux-
bridge's Hermit, Sat. 11b.
50 each, h. ft.—Duke of Richmond's Casador, 7st. 71b.
agst. Mr. Cosby's Sketch Book, Sat. 71b.

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entitled to. I.f..tY- was this difference, however,
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