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" party spirit and violent rancour " which the Noble Lord stated to
exist between different classes of our society, and the overwhelm-
ing influenoe which would be acquired by the Emancipists over
every other class in a Colonial House of Assembly.
Your Petitioners have read this report of Lord Howick's speech
with surprise and grief. Assembled on the spot where we could
not venture to assert what is capable of refhtation, your Petitioners
thus publicly disclaim the imputation cast upon our community,
whilst we cannot but feel that a statement from such high autho-
rity, so much at variance with the fact, by displaying the great
misapprehension which: exists with respect to the real state of the
Colony, furnishes a cogent argument for granting to it a Repre-
sentation of its own.

We do not attribute the statement made by the Noble Lord to
any wilful perversion of the acts within his means of knowledge.
We are satisfied that it was founded on information derived from ig-
norant or interested persons ; or, at any rate, that amongst the va-
rious accounts which his Lordship had received, it was impossible
to obtain a correct vicar of our situation ' • and such we respectfully
represent will ever be the case, until the Colony has within itself an
Assembly, wherein the wants of the people may be openly discussed,
and whence information may be correctly derived.

That the .‘f violent and rancorous" party feeling assumed to
exist in New South Wales is purely imaginary, we beg to call the
attention of your Honourable House to the numerous public esta.
blishments which have been formed, and are maintained in the Co-
lony for purposes of benevolence, education, and trade ; to ow
Banks, Colleges, and Charitable Societies. In these and many
others, support has been given by respectable individuals of every
class—eniancipist, emigrant, and their respective descendants, and
yet it is not found that party feelings have occasioned any diffieulty
in their management ; on' the contrary, the success of the establish-
ment has ever secured a paramount consideration, and the• very
union of different classes to promote one common object has become
the means of allaying that party spirit which it is strangely enough,
assumed it wonld excite. We wouktfurther instance tha-.umoecus
signature 3 of every class and description of free people within the
Colony, which are appended to the last and to this Petition. If
such party feeling as is attributed to us really . subsisted, our Peti-
tions for a House of Assembly would not- obtain such general, we
may.almost say universal, support.
Whilst we decline, however, urging upon the wisdom of your
Honourable House what class of persons amongst us should be eli-
gible to elect or be elected to a Legislative Assembly, we deem it
right to stato that inasmuch as the freed portion of our population
reside principally in the towns of Sidney, Paramatta, Windsor, and -
Liverpool, if it be true that this class do possess that prepondera-
ting weight from their number and property which has been relied
on by his Majesty's Under Secretary for the Colonies (in which
view, however, your petitioneri do not concur) their influence, whe-
ther real or imaginary, might easily be 'obviated by confining the
votes of all electors to the place of their residence, and by reducing
the number of Members to be returned by those towns somewhat
below what their population would otherwise justify, on the one
hand, and by giving to the interior districts and counties, which arc
chiefly peopled by emigrants more than the due proportion of Mem•
bore on the other.

We assure your Honourable House, that stir present Legislative
Council, so far from being the guardian of our interests, has served
as might have Leen anticipated from its being composed of mere
nominees of the Crown, and those mostly holding offices from which
they are removable at pleasure, to ward off all responsibility frets
the Executive,Government, and to give a legal sanction to many
injurious measures, and to a heavy load of taxation, not more unne-
cessary in its amount than opposed to the well-being of the Colony,
and which we are eonscious that the Executive Goiernment of it-
self, had the Legislative Power been confided to its sole exercise,
would not, on its risk and authority, have ventured to enforce.
These observations are confined by your petitioners to the mere
constitution of the Legislative Council, which, piissessing no polets
of contact with the people at large is, it must be evident, essentially
devoid of sympathy with the public feeling, and ignorant alike of toe
public wants as of the state and resources of the country for which it
is called upon to legislale.
Whilst we would thus impress upon your Honourable House the
inadequacy of our present Constitution, we humbly represent, tliat
nothing short of a Representative Assembly will satisfy our wishes,
or suffice for the rising condition of the Colony. In proof that the
Colony is ripe for the introduction of the great constitutional right
for which your petitioners are thus desirous, we are not aware that
we can refer to any facts more strongly in point than our growing
trade, revenue, and population.

It appears from official documents, that our imports in 1828,
amounted to 570,000/. ; and our exports, exclusive of bills drawn
by the Commissary on the Treasury, to only 90,0501. ; and in 1832
the total value of our imports (properly so called) amounted to
510,7331., whilst our exports had increased to 371,174/., and the
drafis of the Commissary on the Treasury (which are in the nature
of an export) amounted to 115,629/. ; thus leaving an emcees of
imports over exports, of only 23,940/, and establishing the grati-
fying prospect, that our exports in the current year will conside-
rably exceed our imports. It also appears from official docu-
ments, thit the Revenue of the Colony for the year 1328, amounted
only to 94,862/., whereas, in the year 1832, it had increased to
135,909/. 151. 614 d.

We hare no correct data, in consequence of the known inaccuracy
of the last census, taken in 1823, from which the number of our
free population can be determined with any degree of precision.
But by referring to the more correct returns of 1824, and allowing
for the increase which must have taken place, from births, immi-
gration, and the freed, since that period, our free population.at pre-
sent may be estimated at about-45,000- eenis, and the prison popu.
lation at about 2.5,000; whence it is apparent, that every free in-
habitant of this colony, man, woman, and child, paysxt the rate of
31. towards the public expenditure—a rate of taxation considerably
exceeding what is levied on our fellow-subjects at home, and carry-
ing with it the irresistible conclusion, that a people sufficiently ma-
ture for taxation, to such an amount, must know best how to im-
pose their own burdens, and to appropriate the revenue raised from
the fruits of their industry.
Your petitioners, in thus coming before your Honourable House,
to ask that as a boon which is due to them as -Of right, cannot but
express their fears, notwithstanding the sincere respect they enter-
tain for the Councils of his Majesty, that so long as the Revenue
of this colony forms so large an item in the patronage at the dis-
posal of the Colonial Office, the people of New South Wales can-
not hope, without the interference of your Honourable House, to
obtain the blessings of a Constitution which is their birthright; and
yet your petitioners already pay more than is required for the sup-
port of their civil government, and are ready and willing, and here-
by submit, to defray all proper and necessary expenses for the time
to come.

Your petitioners beg to inform your Honourable House, that
there are 120 magistrates, and at least twice that number of other
colonists of equal wealth, intelligence, and respectability, qualified
to act, and from whom an efficient House of Assembly could be
selected ; and your petitioners therefore hope that your Honourable
House will grant them a House of Assembly in which there may be
not fewer than fifty members, as that number would be requisite in
a country so extended, to secure a due attendance of members, and
to insure their independence.

Your petitioners cannot but feel that these their just claims come
under peculiarly favourable auspices before a Reformed House of
Commons • that to extend the privileged of a Constitution, the spi-
rit of which our brethren in England have been engaged in so
arduous a struggle to renovate, must seem almost a sacred duty.
We assure your Honourable House, that the people of New South
Wales ardently desire to participate in that glorious charter of free-
dom which you have lately obtained for yourselves and your pos-
terity in the parent country ; and that your Petitioners feel they
owe it to themselves and their children to persevere with the same
ardour to obtain their rights, which has been lately evinced by their
fellow-countrymen throughout Great Britain.
To the wisdom of your Honourable House your Petitioners com-
mit their cause, satisfied that it cannot be your desire to alienate
the attachment of this rising Colony, by longer withholding from its
inhabitants that inherent right of the British Constitution—the
right of levying and appropriating their own taxes. which, accord-
ing to the common law, accompanies English subjects, in whatever
settlement they may reside.
Your Petitioners therefore pray that your Honourable House will
be pleaied itimbly to address his Majesty to bestow upon
them a Representative Assembly.
And your Petitioners, as in duty bound, will ever pray, &c.
Signed by nearly Six Thousand Free Inhabitants.]

Number and Names of
semblies ; together wit
ber of Ships that enti
the year 1829. (Esti
INo. I Name of Colony.

British Colonies possessing Legislative As-
ith the, amount of British Population, num-
ered their Ports, and value of Imports for
racted from Parliamentary Returns. )

White Population.

Ships Imports.
285 £3,741,179
45 285,500
65 4.49,214
12 141,911
41 859,813
5 4,1,958
8 78 '278
.24 192,280
53 414,558
26 159;185
5 3-3,212
7 70,915
3 4,901
• -

'Jamaica.
Antigua
Barbadocs
Dominica
Grenada
Montserrat
Neves
ISt. Kitt's .
'St. Vincent's
Tobago
Tortola
Anguilla
Bahamas ........
Bermudas

30,000
.1,960
14,959
840
801
330
700
1,612
1,301
322
4'77

3,066
[(including Blacks)
4,240
3,905

65,135

From the above it will be perceived that the privilege ..►f Legis-
lative Assemblies by election, is granted to 65,135 British born
subjects, scattered through fourteen colonies, whilst it is denied to
New South Wales, whose returns are as follow :
Population. Ships. Imports.
New South Wales 60,794
The two Canadas, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Cape Bre-
ton, Newfoundland, and Prince Edward's Island, have all Legisla-
tive Assembles.
NEW SOUTH WALES STATISTICS.
POPULATION
1883 .... 60,794

Increase

REVENUE ... .. 1828
1832 .. 135,900

Increase in four years £13,187

IMTOATS lB2B £570,000

1833

Increase 4l £75,949

Exroxis

1828
1833 ...... 475,202

Inc.Tcase
SHIPPING ENTERED THE PORT OF SYDNEY.

Ships. _Tons. ^ Men.
1828
1843
Vessels bele-aging to the Port, 94.
IMAIIG RATION.
1530
1831 4 456 1 1833
.—..— ----

765
lacreazo on tWo years, 3,926 Free Persons.

4,6 W

ge--1 RAND NORTH
W RAILWAY, projected
Engineer.

PROVISIONAL CO3f3;
Sir J. Astley, Bart, M.P.
J: J. Angerstein, Esq. M.P.
Rowland Alston, Esq., M.P.
Rowland G. Alston, Esq.
Sir T. B. Beevor, Bart.
George Brown, Esq.
Robert W. Kennard, Esq.
John Marshall, Esq.
T. Masterman, Esq. jun.

T;il.ls'
Major-GM. Sir J. Cockbum,Bt.l
Henry Usborne, Esq. •

Messrs. Masterman and Co.

ERN and EASTERN
by N. W. CUNDY, Esq., Civil

At a meeting of the Provisional Committee, held at the Railway
Office, No. 56, Lomhatd-street, London, this Bth day of July,
1835, WM. RHODES, Esq., in the Chair; the Report of Mr.
Walker having been read, which was generally favourable to the
line proposed by Mr. Cundy, but suggesting some deviations—
It was Resolved—That Local Committees be forthwith formed to
cPrry this undertaking into effect, and that applications for shares
of 100/. each, may be made by letter (post paid) to the Secretary,
at this office, of whom further information may be had:,
SEPTIMITS HOI)GES, Secretary.

'ITTEE IN LONDON :
The Hon. C. A. Pelham, M.l'.
George Pryme, Esq., M.P.
William Rhodes, Esq.
G. H. Smith, Esq.
James Sowerby, Esq.
Right Hon. G. Tennyson, M.P.
Rees Goring Thomas, Esq.
Henry Usborne, Esq.
Edmund Wodehouse, Esq.,M.P.
rEEs:
(John Masterman, Esq.

BANKERS:

ISir James Esdaile and Co.

CONSULTING COUNSEL:
The Hon. James Stuart Wortley, M.P.
Solicitors—Messrs. Vizard and Leman.

EAST INDIA ROUSE, JUNE 24, 1835.
911 HE COURT of DIRECTORS of the EAST.
I, COMPANY do hereby give Notice, _
That a GENERAL COURT of the said Company will be held
at their House in Leadenhalbstreet,- on WZDNESDAY, the 15th
July neat, at Eleven o'clock in the Forenoon, for the purpose of
taking into consideration the Report from the Committee of By
Laws, laid before the General Court this day, proposing to. alter
and repeal sundry By Laws of the Company.
The said Report, with the proposed Alterations in the Ey Laws,
are now printing, and will be ready for delivery to the Proprietors,
at this House, on Thursday, the 2d July, at Noon.
PETER AUGER, Seoretary.

EAST INDIA HOUSE, JuNE 26, 1835.

MFIE COURT of DIRECTORS of the EAST
INDIA COMPANY do hereby give Notice,
' - - -

That the GENERAL COURT, appointed to be held on the
15th .Ittiv next, is. MADE SPECIAL, for the purpose of takirg
into consideration the following Notices, which were delivered in
on the 24th instant :
_

" That copies of all proceedings and correspondence between the
Chairman, Deputy-Chairman, or the Court of Directors, and the
President of the Board of Commissioners for the Affairs of India,
connected with the appointment or recal of the Governor-General
or Governor of any of the Presidencies of India, since April, 1834,
be laid before this Court."_

" That a statement be laid before the Court' of the home debts
and assets of
.the. East India Company, on the 30th April, 1835,
with an estimate of expected receipts into and disbursements from
the Home Treasury for the next three years, or up to the 30th
April, 1833, particularising these appertaining to each year respec-
tively, and inclusive, of the Six per Cent. Remittable Loan."
The Court of Directors further give notice, that a Proprietor has
given notice of his intention, at the said General Court, to be held
on the 15th July next, to ask the following question, viz.—
" Whether any 4uestions relating to the admission or rejection
of votes at the election.on the 17th instant, were submitted to the
law offieers of the Company by the Court of Directors; and whe-
ther the Court will 4ay such questiOns, and the answers thereto,
before the Proprietors"

PETER AUBER, Secretary,

OTICE is hereby given, that the EXHIBI-
TION of the ROYAL ACADEMY will finally close on
SATURDAY NEXT, the 18th instant, at SEVEN O'CLOCK
PRECISELY.
Adthission. (every day from eight o'clock till seven) One Shilling.
Catalogue One Shilling.
HENRY HOWARD, R.A., Sec.
Exhibitors are requested to send for their Works on Wednesday,
the tlat, or Thursday, the 23d instant.

LONDON AND GREENWICH RAILWAY.
0 TENDERS will be
.received for the supply
co of Rails, Chairs, &c., to complete this work after the 20th

instant.

ROYAL ACADEMY, SOMERSET HOUSE.
LAST WEEK.

Cornhill, llth July, 1835

GEO. WALTER, Secretary.

AMICABLE SOCIETY.

MI-IE DIRECTORS of the CORPORATION
of the AMICABLE SOCIETY for a PERPETUAL
ASSURANCE OFFICE do hereby give Notice; that attendance
will be given at the Society's House, Serjcant's Inn, Fleet-street,
on Thursday the 16th, Thursday the 23d, and Thui•sday the 30th
days of July instant, and on Thursday the Gth day of. August next,
from Eleven of the Clock until One-, and en the last Wednesday
in August and every subsequent month, from Eleven to Twelve, to
4)7.y Claims arising by Deaths of Members of the soid Society in the
year ending-at• Lady-day 1835 (Old Style), when will be paid to
the resucctive Nominees, Executors, Administrators, or Assigns of
such Members, the Sum of Three Hundred and Four Pounds
Eighteen Shillings and Sixpence for each Share, insured on their
respective Lives.

THOS. GALLOWAY, Register.

CELLAR OF CHOICE WINES.

MACHIN, DEBENHAIVI, and STORR, will
SELL at their Rooms, King-street, Covent-garden, on
THURSDAY, the 16th, at Twelve o'clock, 4,800 Bottles of superior
Wines in aolden, Pale, and Brawn Sherries ; excellent and fine
flavoured old Crusted Ports ; fine old and rich East India Madeira,
Car, &c.
Samples and Catalogues may be had three days prior to the Sale,
and the Wines tasted on the morning and at the time of Sale.

POPE BROTHERS, AND CO.,
CONTINUE TO DELIVER

BEST WALL'S END COALS,
At the distance of fire miles from St. Paul's Cathedral, or three
miles from either of their Wharfs, at the lowest prices. Their
extensive purchases, the particular situations of their wharfs (being
in different directions in the Metropolis) and the various facilities
that persons doing a large trade are sure to command over others
who transact business on a more limited scale, form a sufficient in-
ducement to consumers to favour POPE and Co. with their orders ;
and when it is considered that where other Coal. Merchants have to
send perhaps twelve miles, Pope and Co. have only to send one-half
or one-quarter of the distance, and that the cartage of coals is one
great item in the expenses of a Coal Merchant, nothing more need
be said to show that Pope and Co. certainly possess the power of
supplying the best articles at the cheapest rate.
The present Prices for Cash are:—
Best (Hetton's, Stewart's, or Larnbton's) Wall's End, 275. per
Ton—Rest Newcastle, 255.-:-Other seconds from 235. to 2155.
tley, Tanfield, and every other description equally low.
Doekhead Wharf, Shad Thames, Southwark.
Anchor Wharf, 247, Wapping.
York Wharf, Augustus-street, Regent's Park Basin.
High Bridge Wharf, Greenwich, and.
ABBEY WHARF, WESTMINSTER.

•
INCORRODIBLE ARTIFICIAL TEETH FIXED WITH-
OUT WIRES OR OTHER LIGATURES, AND LOOSE
TEETH FASTENED.
114 ONSIEUR MALLAN and SONS, Surgeon
Dentists, 9, HALF MOON-STREET, PICCADILLY,
tad 32, GREAT RUSSELL-STREET, BLOOMSBURY,
who FIX INCORRODIBLE ARTIFICIAL TEETH WITH-
OUT WIRES or OTHER LIGATURES, and FILL DE-
CAYED TEETH with MINERAL SUCCEDANEUM, are
grateful for the high and extensive patronage which has so eminently
distinguished their professional exertions since their arrival in the
British Metropolis, and beg leave to announce to their Friends and
the Public in general, that they still continuo to RESTORE DE-
CAYED TEETH With their celebrated MINERAL SUCCE-
DANEUM, so universally recommended by the Faculty of London
and Paris. The operation, which is PERFORMED in a FEW
SECONDS, without the slightest pain, heat, or pressure, allays
the most excruciating pain,
_ and lasts for many years. They also
FASTEN LOOSE TEETH, whether arising from Age, Ne-
gleet, or Disease in the Gums. INCORRODIBLE ARTIFICIAL
and NATURAL TEETH, from One to a Complete Set, which
are incapable of discolouration or corrosion, are fixed Without the
iocurnbranee of Wires, or any other Ligatures, and answer every
Purpose of Articulation and Mastication—Charges as in Paris.
All operations performed on the Teeth.
32, GREAT RUSSELL-STREET. BLOOMSBURY, and

9, HALF MOON-STREET, PICCADILLY.
N.B. Just published by J. Malian, OBSERVATIONS on the
TEETH : A. Schloss, No. 2, Great:Russelhstrect, and to le had
of the Author, No. 9, Hal:Moon-street, Piccatiinn

THE MARKETS.
ciOUNTRY CORN MARKETS DURING LAST WEEK.
Wheat. Buhl. ' Oats. Beans. ' Pease.
rer Quarter. s. to s. s. to s. s. to s. s. 8 to a.
45 30 23 37 -- 31
33 44 32 33 25 26
M 'meth 3B 41 26 29 i 24 27 32 34 31 34
Penrith 44 27 • 21
Shetteld 43 25 44
Winchester 31 42 29 34 25 26 42 44
Per Bushel. s. d. s. d. s. d. F. d. 5. d. s. d. s. d. s. it sd. s d
Carniarthen.,--. 56 60 52 36: 20 28 00 0t 00 00
Cowbridge—......— 00 76 28 00126 00 56 st) 0 00 00
Newcastle (Staff.) 80 89, 4 6 50[ 3 0 34 50 s:s 00 00
Northallerton M. 70 93 36 4GI 3 3 40 56 60 00 00
Stone BO 8 0 4 0 4830
Swansea 56 59 36 3 9 2 6 2 9 0 0 00 0 0 09
Warwick —BO 90 3 0 461 2 0 33 5 6 66 00 00
Per 8011. I
Barnardeastle 96 116 80 86! 48 50 86 106 00 00
Durham 11 0 106 69 8 014 9 73 77 90 70 83
Richmond 96 13 0 8 0 8 614 4 8I• 9 6 10 6 0 0 00
Stockton 9 0 10 0 8 6 9 (!i 4I) 5 4 8 0 8 6 00' 0 0
WAKEFIELD CORN MARKET—JuIy to.
Wheat, Red, Noricls and Sutiblk —s. 36.3. to —s. fine 435.
Un. and Cam —s. to --s. fine 425.
Yorkshire s 375. to —s. fine 418.
White
--- Foreign, hoed s. s. to —s. fine —s.
White —B. —s. to —s. nne —s.
Barley, Norfolk and Suffolk 3O:. to 325. tine 345.
Lincolnshire • 2 s. to 31s. fine 355.
Yorkshire Wold
- Foreign
Beans, Old 33s to 41s. tine —r.

----.- New
Oats, Potato —s. to 245. fine `..-Ss.
Poland —s. —s. to 2-Is. fine :Ns.
Friesland and Small —s. 16. to 188. fine 20s.
DI ealing
Shelling
Malt —s. 365. tine 425. per Load.
Rapeseed

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Wheat.

liar!ey.

SECOND PROTESTANT MEETING

AT EXETER-HALL.

Pursuant to public advertisement, a second Protestant meet-
ing was held on Saturday last, in Exeter-hall, " to prove to
Protestants of all denominations, by authentic documents, the
real tenets of the Church of Rome as now held by the Roman
Catholic bishops and priests of Ireland:" The deputation of
Irish Protestant clergy, consisting of the Very Rev. the Dean
of St. Patrick's, the Rev. Robert Daly, the Rev. Mortimer
o';Faillivan, and the Rev. Robert. M'Ghee, were again in at-
tendance ; and we alio noticed on the platform the Earl of
Lincoln, Lord Ashley, the Right Hon. G. R. Dawson, Sir
A. Agnew, M. P., Sir George Clerk, M. P., Mr. Piumptre,
M. P., Mr. J. H. Kcarsley, M P., Mr. Hardy, M. P., Mr.:
Pringle, M.P., Mr. J. Devonsher Jackson, M.P., Captain
Gordon, &c.
On the motion of the Rev. Dr. Nineocx., Lord KEN vex
took the Chair precisely at eleven o'clock, at which hour the
great room was densely crowded in every part. Prayers hav-
ing been read by the Rev. Mr. Holloway,
The Noble CHAIRMAN opened the proceedings of the day.
The Rev. Mr. then came forward, and was re-
; ceived with the most enthusiastic plaudits. The Rev. Gen-
tleman commenced his Observations by saying, That since the
last meeting complaints in the nature of attacks upon those
who had taken part in its proceedings had appeared in some
of the public pints, to the effect that due notice had not
been given to their opponents. In !consequence of those
complaints he had felt it his duty to return to this country
to meet any of the Roman Catholics, prelates or clergy, who
might feel themselves aggrieved; and, to prevent a repetition
of the charge of want of notice to them, he had himself ad-
dressed a letter to the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Dub-
lin, Dr. Murray, to the effect, that if he chose to appoint any
number of his clergy, or Mr. O'Connell, Mr. Shell, or any
other gentleman who might happen to be on the spot, to
attend this day to satisfy the public mind that the statements
which had been put forth on the former meeting were in any
part untrue, he or they should be heard in reply with the full-
est and most patient attention, subject, however, like other
speakers, to the correction cf the Chair. This letter he did,
not trust by post, but sent it by the hands of a friend to the
residence of Dr. Murray on the 29th of June last, and in
answer to a request for a reply to its contents, his friend had
been told by the servant of the Archbishop, that his "master
desired him to say there was no answer."—( Loud cheers.) Hty
(the Rev. Mr. M‘Ghee)patteniete.t.e candpnr and good sense
of every gentleman present, whether in this respect he bad not
done his duty most faithfully and honourably.—( Hear, hear.)
The only answer to his communication appeared in a letter
published in many of the public prints, and addressed by Dr.
Murray to Lord Melbourne. In that letter Di. Murray com-
plained of " the miserable display of fanaticism in Exeter-
hall." He should be. glad to know from his Roman Catholic
brethren whether it was part of fanaticism to court _investiga-
tion, and whether it was the part of conscious integrity to` de-
cline such an investigation._(Hear, hear.) It would become
his duty to enter again into a plain simple recapitulation of the
evidence upon which the statements be had made were founded,
and first he would call the attention of the meeting to the na-
ture of the documents frcm which that evidence was adduced.
Those documents were twofold, and though bound together in
the book he held in his hand, were distinct and separate from
each other. The one was a catalogue printed by Mr. Coyne,
the printer and publisher to the Roman Catholic College of
Maynooth, and to the Roman Catholic hierarchy of Ireland,
and the. other was the Priest's Pirectory, that was a book
published by authority, containing the order of reciting
the offices which the Roman Catholic priests were obliged
daily to recite under the penalty of mortal sin. The
contents of the catalogue served to corroborate those of the
priest's Ordo, and thus be bad two series of evidence in aid
of, though distinct from, each other. He should here re-
mark, that with respect to the Priest's Ordo, in an authorized
Roman Catholic newspaper (the Dublin IVeehly Freeman),
there had been published a very elaborate denial 'of the state-
ment made at the last meeting that the Ordo was of universal
authority in Ireland, and the writer added. " That equally
untrue was the flippant assertion of Mr. M'Ghee, that before
next January every Roman Cathalic priest was bound to be
in possession of the book, for that none of them need have it,
except those who comprised the clergy of the province of
Leinster." The writer, who expressed himself in a tone of
authority, added that the Ordo for the province of Connaught
was compiled by the Rev. Mr. Burke. In answer to this
statement, he (Mr. M'Ghee) repeated that the Ordo he held
is his hand was the only Priest's Directory for the whole of
Ireland, and was the only one in use. In Coyne's catalogue ho
found a statement with regard to his edition of Dens's Theology.
Ife stated, that on tie 14th of September, 1808, all the Roman
Catholic Archbishops andßishops of Ireland unanimously agreed
that Dens's Complete Body if* Theology was the best book on
the subject that could be republished, as containing the most
secure guidance for such ecclesiastics as might by the peculiar
circumstances of the country be deprived of an opportunity of
referring. to public libraries, or of consulting those in au-
thority over them, and that, in consequence, an edition was or-
dered to be printed by the present publisher to the number of
3,000 copies. Thus, with respect to the edition of 1808 Mr.
Coyne states, he published it on the authority of all the Ro-
man Catholic pre:ates; and in a subsequent statement with re-
ference to the second edition, be adds, " that the work is now
very rare and scarcely to be met with, and inasmuch as Dr.
Murray, Dr. Doyle, Di'. Keating, and Dr. Kinsela, had
made it the conference-book for the clergy of the province of
Leinster, the publisher, in order to obviate the difficulty expe-
rienced by them, as well as to advance the cause'of religion
and morality in the other parts of the Irish Church, is in-
duced tearepruit a limited number of copies. '1 hat limited
number was was also not less than 3,000 copies. He made
no apology to the meeting for trespassing upon their time
with these dry details of documents ; on the contrary, an
apology would rather be due to the Roman Catholic hier-
archy, if he presumed -to make a statement uncorroborated
by facts. Such was the statement made by Mr. Coyne in
his catalogue, and he must now call the attention of the meet-
ing to the evidence contained in the Priests' Ordo. That
work contained not only the regulations for reciting the offices,
but also the questions for the conference of the clergy
appointed by the bishops. These questions, he was informed
by. a Roman Catholic gentleman in whom he had the
fullest confidence, were appointed by the Bishops of the dif-
ferent dioceses, and the conferences upon them took place
sometimes four times a year, and sometimes oftener, and it
would be found that the Roman Catholic Archbishop of
Dublin, Dr. Murray, very carefully discharged that duty
from 1825 up to 1829. The directions for 1825 up to
1828 were signed by him—in 1829 his signature did not ap-
pear, but it was stated that the questions would be discussed
at a conference to be held in the Diocese of Dublin at times
which Dr. Murray would, either vied voce or under his land,
appoint. So that for a period of four years the result was,
that the questions for conference bore the signature of Dr.
Murray, and it was declared in the last named year that
he himself would fix the time for their discussion, showing
thereby that up to this time the conferences in the arch-
diocese of Dublin were strictly appointed, fixed, and signed
by the archbishop, Dr. Murray. In 1831, the circumstances
entirely changed, and the conferences were no longer dio-
cesan, but became provincial conferences. What was the lan-
guage 'of the priests of Leinster in reference to the provincial
conferences? They state, that in obedience to the commands
of the archblehens and bishops of the diocese of Leinster,,
they. will proceed .to discuss the questions from Dens's
treatise on humanity in two conferences, on sin in one
conference, and on conscience in another conference. Now,
he ( Mr. M'Ghee) would assert, iti vindication of Mr. Coyne's
character, accused as he 'had been of publishing a false-
hood, that these documents, wholly independent as they were
of that gentlemen, did corroborate and confirm his state-
ment, that the Work was set up by Dr. Murray, Dr. Doyle,
Dr. Keating and Dr. Kinsela, as the conference-book of the
province of Leinster.—( Loud cheers.) After adverting to
something which had taken place in the House of Lords on
the subject of Detzs's Theology, and of the imputation that he
had authorized its publication, Dr. Murray avers, " that those
imputations, from whatever quarter they may have found their
way into the newspapers, are wholly without foundation in
fact. Ido not entertain the doctrines thus attributed to me;
my solemn oath attests the contrary. I did not direct Dens
to be published ; it was undertaken by a respectable booksel-
seliee as a speculation in trade, entirely at his own risk, as
work which comprises a large mass of very valuable matter,
though containing, too, some obsolete opinions wholly uncon-
nected with any article of Catholic faith, and which opinions it
was known that hardly any one at the present day would think
of defending." Dr. Murray then proceeded to state that he did
not make it the text-book for their theological conferences.-( A
sight disturbance here interrupted the Rev. Gentleman, which
was soon allayed on the interference of the Chairman. Now,
it was said that the 'publication of Dens's Theology was a
mere matter of trade—a speculation on the part of Mr.
Coyne n but would any bookseller or person connected with
that trade, believe that he would have undertaken the publi.
cation of such a work without some good security for the re-
! turn of his capital ? What ! venture 2,625 guineas, the cost
of the publication, in a speculation so classical as not to require
a hint from the hierarchy—a suggestion from the confessional ?
What ! send forth "obsolete opinions wholly unconnected with
the Catholic faith, and which hardly any body in the present
day would think of defending," in a vetiture to the. Vatican,
by which he doubles his capital, and starts on another venture
in 1832? If so, he (Mr. M'Ghee) would call upon Longman,
Hurst, Rees, Orme, and Brown to hide their diminished heads.
He would challenge all Paternoster-row, or even Ave Maria-
lane, to make such a hit as Coyne had done.—( Hear, and
laughter.) The Rev. Gentleman commented with great
ability upon the intolerant doctrines contained in Dens's Trea-
tise,. from which he quoted extracts of very considerable length.
On dealing with the chapter on the punishment of heretics
by exile, imprisonment, and death, the Rev. Gentleman was
interrupted by so violent an uproar and confusion, as to call
for the interference of the Chairman, and the removal of se-
veral individuals by the police. A scene of great, confusion
prevailed for nearly ten minutes. At length
The CHAIRMAN made himself heard, and called upon the
meeting to assist him in preserving order.
Several gentlemen (we believe of the Roman Catholic per-
suasion) attempted to address the Chairman from the plat.
form, but— - - -

The CHAIRMAN insisted upon the -rules being adhered to,
and that, unless they were authorized to speak by their pre-
lates, they must remain silent or leave the meeting.
The confusion was then renewed, even extending to the
platform, when cries of " Turn them out " became general
from the body of the room. In the midst of this,
The Rev. Mr. 111'GnEE resumed, and proceeded in his critical
review of Dens's Treatise, dwelling on extracts already pub.
lished from the chapters De pxnis cruxinie heresis, and upon
the doctrine of oaths. He also adverted to the admission by
Dv. Murray before the Committee of the House of Commons
in 1825, that the bull unigenitus was in force, and received in
Ireland, and the declaration by Dr. Murray in his letter to

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