The Sun.
London, England, 1832-10-17 00:00:00

PRANCE.

THE DOCTRINNAIRES ARE ATTEMPTING TO DE-
CEIVE FRANCE BOTH AS TO THE AFFAIRS OF
BELGIUM AND LA VENDEE-NEW MINISTERIAL
CIRCULARS - THE OPINION OF THE DEPART-
MENTS. •

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" Thus they jog on, still tricking, never thriving."—DavnEN.

To the EDITOR of the MORNING CHRONICLE.
PARIS, ocr. 14, 1832.
Sin,—The Doctrinnaires are trying to trick us ! ! That
is the word—for to trick is " to cheat, to impose on, to
defraud !!" They know they have not a majority—they
know that the country is against them—they know that
they are repudiated by the Royalists, whose cause they
sold and deserted, and they know that they are abhorred
by all that is patriotic, national, and truly great and en-
Ightened.
France desires the settlement of the Belgian question !
The Doctrinnaries know this, feel this, and are doing all they
possibly can to take advantage of this circumstance, and thus
secure for themselves some more votes in the Chamber of
Deputies. They admit, that if they do not succeed in
their plan, and that, if before the 19th of November, the
Belgian question be not settled, that they will not have
mire than from 120 to 150 votes in the Chamber of De-
puties out of 459 Members. But then they say, that if
they succeed in obtaining an arrangement, this number
will be augmented to 200 ; anti that as all the 459 Mem-
bers will not vote on :he question of the Address, and as
all their 200 supporters would attend, it is possible
t' at the votes may be nearly equal—that even they may
have a majority ; and that, if the majority against them
should only happen to be a small one, they would then
counsel Louis Philip to dissolve the Chambers—would
make an appeal to France, and, by one means or other,
would combine to obtain a decided majority at the new
elections. Let me now expose their views and opinions
as to this settlement! as it is called, of the Belgian question.
The Duke de Broglie is a friend of M. de Werther—of
M. d'Appony—and of Count Pozzo di Borgo, who, though
not at Paris, yet exercises by correspondence an I couriers
the same influence as if he were really here. The Duke
de Broglie's nomination is most acceptable to the Courts
of Vienna and Berlin ; and though it is connected with the
appointment of Soult, Barthe, and Thiers, who are not
such farourit, sin the north, as it is absurdly believed
that they entertain liberal and patriotic opinions, yet
it is known that Guizot, Humann, Broglie, Rieny, and d'Ar-
gout will vote as they are ordered to do by the Holy Alli-
ance; and that as five are always more powerful at voting
than three, why that Soult, Barthe, and Thiers cannot he
really dangerous, even should they be disposed to object to
a counter-revolution. The Duke de Broglie his therefore
now requested a favour—a great favour—an incalculable
favour, of the Ambassadors of the North ; and Prince
Talleyrand has gone to London to support, by hie presence
and appui, the requests and solicitations of Broglie at Paris.
This great lace is "to bring to a settlement the Belgian
question before the 19th of November." Extraordinary
coincidence! The Polignac Ministry of the Bth of Aug.
ordered Marshal Bourmont to proceed to Algiers, and by
no means to omit taking it in time to secure a majority for
the Pelig,nac C,binet. Bourmont succeeded at Algiers, suc-
ceeded most admirably; but yet 221 Deputies voted to
Charles X " the insolent Address !" The Duke of Broglie's
netnination has been received in France with a loud deep
cry of execration and horror. France sees that an attempt
is to be in ode to effect a counter revolution, and in
time she raise., her voice, that there may be no
mistake, and that her intentions and hopes, her wishes
and resolutions, may not be mistaken. This loud and
deep cry has been heard at the hotels of the Foreign Am-
liassedors, and they have said to the Duke of Broglie—
"lt is true we approve of your principles—it is true we
desire a counter-revolution— it is true we rejoice at your
nomination, and irons it we had hoped great things for our
Royal Masters, and our Monarchical European system ;
but have you read the Constitationnel, the Temps, the
courier Francais, the Commerce, the Messager, the
Tribune, the National, the Revolution? Do you not
see that all the liberate of all colours have risen en-masse
aertinst you ? We think differently of you, my noble
Duke ! We believe sincerely that you desire the restora-
tion, anti will prove an admirable and faithful servant of
Henry the Fifth ; but what can we do ? You have a
Chamber of Deputies—it is convoked for the 19th No-
vembr r—it appears from the accounts of all parties that
you will not have a majority—that even two-thirds will
be against you ; and that after you are turned out, M.
Dupin and hie friends will succeed, only to be followed
by Odillon Barrett, and the popular faction. We must,
then, Duke de Broglie, wait and see—we will do all we
run to ate, Tee, •nee we see that you have a maieeity lu
the Chamber of Deputies ; but we doubt very much in-
deed if you will have this majority, and indeed we feel
convinced that you will not."
Now, the Duke de Broglie believes all this, and knows
all this to be as true as truth ; but the Duke has thought
of a plan by which be thinks these his diplomatic friends
can be of great use to him, and by which they can even
assure to hint a majority in the Chamber of Deputies. So
the Duke has replied to the diplomatic agents at Paris as
follows, and the Prince Talleyrand is charged to make the
saute reply to the Conference of London :
'' I admit, Gentlemen, that if I and my friends present 1,
ourselves to the Chambers with nothing more than our
known principles, past history—and though not avowed,
yet not hsi understood intentions, viz.—to place at same
firure day Henry the Fifth en the throne of France—that
we shall find a majority, and a large one, opposed to us.
But then, Gentlemen, this majority will be large, because
in that case it will be feared that we are still to have an
European war—that the affairs of Belgium will still bring
it about; and that the Revolution of July is to be openly
attacked by Russia, Austria, Prussia, Holland, Spain,
Portugal, and the Princes of Italy, in the spring of next
year. But, Gentlemen, if you will enable me to settle
the Belgian question, or at least, on presenting myself to
the Chambers to say from the attitude we have taken the
solution must be speedy, why, then, Gentlemen, you
secure to me an undoubted majority in the Chambers, and
a great and glorious triumph for our principles."
To settle the Belgian question without compromising
the principles of the Holy Alliance, and without attack-
ing the " rights !" and " interests !" of the King of
Holl Ind, is a result most sincerely desired by Prussia and
Austria ; but yet these Powers would prefer war to yield-
ing one iota of the principle of popular Sovereignty. To
the Duke of Broglie and the Prince de Talleyrand, the
Ambassador at Paris and the Conference at London re-
plied then in substance as follows:
" We have no objection to assist you in settling the
Belgian quession, provided you think that a Monarchical
settlement, and a settlement in favour of the King of
Holland, can serve your cause, and secure you a majority ;
but do you believe such a result could be favourable to you
,at the present moment ? We can easily understand, that
if we were disposed to yield to the demands of the Bel-
gians, that such a settlement would undoubtedly secure you
many votes; but this mode of settlement, you know, we
cannot admits—and we cannot think that any other settle-
ment would dimitaieh, but, on the contrary, would add to
your difficulties."
" True," say the Duke de Broglie and Prince Talley-
rand, " if we made a bona fide settlement—one which
would bear examination, and which would Le binding
even on us and between us—then I admit, that the only
settlement you could consent to at the present tine would
not benefit, but would injure us ; but then have the good-
ness to remember, that there are two sorts of settlement
which can be made—a real and a fictitious one—and if
you can trust us, we will show you bow you m iy aid us in
obtaining a majority in the Chamber of Deputies, with-
out violating your principles—without sacrificing the
cause of the King of Holland—and without breaking the
engagement we again renew, of bringing about by degrees
a third restoration."
" Thus they jog on, still tricking, never eh, lying ! "
The Atnbaesadors at Paris, and the Conference at Lon-
don, heard these observations with delight, and demanded
of the Duke de Broglie and Prince de Talleyrand to speak
out. They have done so before this ; and their proposal
is as follows
" Let the coasts of Holland be blockaded by an English
and French squ tdron. Let the French army march into
Belgium. Let the citadel of Antwerp be summoned to
surrender. Let the citadel demand time. Let time
be granted. Let the King of Holland apply for delay.
Let affairs remain in this position at the opening of the
Chambers. Let us be able to announce in a pompous and
eloquent phrase in the King's Speech, that the coasts of
Holland are blockaded lay a joint squadron, and that the
Drapeau tri-colour floats under the ramparts of the Ant-
werp citadel ; and then—oh then, we shall certainly
secure a majority on the Address ; or, if not, the majority
against us will be so small that we may be able to counsel
the King to dissolve the Chambers, and we will apply
ourselves to obtaining a majority. If these results shall
be obtained, then the King of Holland must be entreated
to make some small concession of no importance, just for
the sake of saying that we gained all we desired by our
hostile preparations and demonstrations—our fleet shall
withdraw—our troops shall retire—the citadel of Antwerp
shall remain in the possession of the King of Holland, as
peciiiitifor the payment of the portion of the loan which
i3elgium ought to pay—the King of Holland will thus
be victorious—and when the proper moment ar-
"..-7 rive*, it is pc;silibleAthat a restoration may take
place in the Pays 114 s. If, notwithstanding our
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ImpPt and predictions, and your conoegsions in nut
favour—if, notwithstanding thea•'•hostile demonstrations
which we now make, there should be a majority against
us in the Chamber of Deputies, and we should be cotn-
p•lled to retire—we would, first of all, withdraw our
fleet—and direct our army to retreat—and then, when
our political opponents came to office, you would only
have to tell them, that if they again entered Belgium, or
again blockaded the coasts, that they would find a Prussian
army and a Russian fleet soon ready to otspose and attack
them. Thus in all cases the King of Holland will be
sure of gaining a victory—his cause is protected and secure
—and, come the worst to the worst, you will only at
length have to fight the battle of legitimacy against popular
sovereignty, which we know sooner or later must be
fought."
" Thus they jog on, still tricking, never thriving."
To this proposal of the Duke de Broglie and the Prince
de Tatleyrand no positive answer has yet been received.
It is thought by some that the Representatives of the
Court of St. P,tersburgh may object even to make these
sham concessions for a few weeks to the principles of po-
pular sovereignty—and that, therefore, the proposals will
lie rejected. Ido not think so. I believe that this trick-
ing system will be supported and encouraged by the Am-
bassabor at Paris and the Conference at London—that
the fleets will sail—that a nominal blockade in the
foggy month of November will take place—that the
French army will enter Belgium—that t'se phrases in
the King's speech will be arranged ad captandum—and
that, although the real Belgian question will be as far off
from a real settlement as ever, yet that some fifty odd De-
puties may be deceived—the funds be raised by those ar-
tificial means, and until the " comedy" shall be evident,
that the multitude will be tricked, and think it is all in
earnest. Not so the readers of the Morning Chronicle.
Let them not believe that Austria, Prussia, and Russia,
are about to consent to real measures of real coercion be-
ing really used against the King of Holland ! No such
thing is dreamt of by Werther, D'Appony, Pozzo di
Borgo, or the Doctrinnaires. No, no; they are political
stock-jobbers ; they are playing for time ; they are oc-
cupied with their political " puts and calls"—and wben
their settling day arrives, they will take care on the ba-
lance of accounts that the King of Holland shall be greatly
the gainer.
" Thus they jog on, still tricking, never thriving !"
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Nor is the policy of the Doctrinnatres, as to the affairs
of La Vendee, leis open to the criticism of those who
know what is going on behind the scenes, and who are
not to he deceived by circular letters and protestations !
The Duke of Broglie knows quite well, that at the close
of the last Session, the Ministry of the 13th March un-
dertook to bring to a termination the affairs of Bel-
gium and La Vendee. It has done neither. As in
Belgium, the affai's of that country are more disas-
trous than ever, so in La Vendee the position of
those provinces is becoming daily more dangerous and
afflicting. The Broglie Cabinet says it will arrange
these affairs—it will attack the Carlists and the
friends of the fallen dynasty ; and Marshal Soult
first, and now M. Thiers, have been writing circular
letters, in which they call on the Prefects to do their
duty, and to cause this state of civil war to terrninat..
Now all this looks well on paper, and a mere everyday
observer would say, " How can these men be Carlists or
Ex-Royalists, when you see what strong measures they
are taking against the friends of Henry the Fifth and
Charles X. in the west ? This question would show an
ignorance of the real state of affairs of La Vendee. The
DUCHESS OF BERRI,' Is STILL IN THE BOCAGE. This
is a fact. The Government knows this. If the Govern-
ment does not know the exact village or house in which
she resides, it knows at least where to find her in a single
day. Why, then, do not any of these circular letters ad
dressed by Soult and Thiers speak of the Duchess of
Berry ? Why do they not order her arrestation ? Why
do they not offer a reward of FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND
FRANCS for her arrest ? Why do they not mention even
her name ? The Government knows that as long as the
Duchess of Berry shall remain in the Bocage, there never
can he peace and order in La Vendee—and yet the Go-
vernment does not arrest her. Who is afraid to sign the
Ordinance offering a reward for her apprehension 1) Would
M. Odillon Barrot hesitate ?—No. Tht n why does M.
Thiers ?—Because M. "Thiers and M. Montalivet appre-
hend and believe in a third Restoration, and they are
afraid of compromising themselves by the arrest of the
Duchess of Berry. The Ambassadors at Paris, and the
Conference at London, object to her arrest—protest against
it—declare that if any harm shall happen to the Duchess
of Berry, that an European war will be the consequence.
What humiliation ? what an insult ! and rt we are told in
a circular of Marshal Soult that " France is respected,

" Thus they jog on, still tricking, never thriving."

The OPINIONS OF TILE DEPARTMENTS, as well as the
opinion of Paris, are now, however, becoming known.
Already the Doctrinnaires are condemned by 950 out of
every 1,000 who can read and write, and understand " B
is not a Bull's foot" i❑ Paris. The same feeling is rapidly
extending in the Departments. The journals of the towns,
30, 60, and 100 miles from Paris, have already arrived in
the capital, containing the protest of all classes and divi-
sions of patriots against the nomination of the Doctrin-
noires. The officers of the National Guards desire to
resign their posts, as they do not wish to serve such a
Government. They have only consented at Paris to re-
main for a few weeks. One cry of indignation is heard—
and the Debate is compelled alone to defend this monstrous
nominatio❑ against France in arms. Still the Doctrin-
naires pursue their course—hope against hope—promise—
swear—conjure—entreat—and alarm ; but their race is
short, and their end sure. 0. P. Q.

SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE-(THIS DAY.)

FROM LLOYD'S

PORTSMOUTH, OCT. 16.—Wind N.N.W.—Sailed the
Georgiana, Thompson, for Van Diemen's Land ; and Am-
phitrite transport, for Plymouth ; Andromache, Andrew,
for Madras and Bengal ; and Royal George, Embleton,
for Mauritius.

STA NDG ATE, OCT. 16.—Arrived the R.chard Batley,
Scott, from Vostizza.

PORTLAND, OCT. 15.—Arrived the Mary Turcan,
Sydney, fi om New South Wales ; sailed 28th of May.
BRISTOL, OCT. 16.—Arrived the New Brunswick,
from New Brunswick ; and Star, from Archangel.
COWES, OCT. 15.—Arrived the Triton, Taylor, from
London, leaky, hLaind to Belfast.
BRISTOL, OCT. 15.—Arrived the Adventure, from Gi-
jon ; and the Arcadia, Mardi, from Onega.

STANDGATE CREEK, OCT. 15.—Arrived the Brazil
packet, Crowe, from Trieste; Fanny, Sanbatt, from
Malta; Ninus, Reed, and Clarence, Croker, from Malaga.
LIVERPOOL, OCT. 14.—Arrived the Urania, Headley,
and Inigvie, Murray, from St. Petersburgh ; Brunswick,
Brown, from Narva. Off port the Robert Isaac, Vat--
num, from Savannah ; and Mary, from Charleston.
LIVERPOOL, OCT. 15.—Arrived the Whitehaven, Sun,
from Antigua ; Marabou, Longridge, from the River
G inthia ; Mary, Richard,,, from Savannah ; Sheffield,
Hackstaff, from New York; Perseverance, Bennett, from
Newfoundland ; Chieftain, BI tir, from Montreal ; Anne,
Brown, Alexander, Brandt, Geller, and Perseverence,
Stein, from Archangel.
ARCHANGEL, SEPT. 28.—The Ceres, Scholly, from
Amsterdam, is totally lost on the Bar—crew saved.
SHEERNESS, OCT. 10.-1 he Royal Mint, front St.
Petersburgh to Liverpool, was got off the ground last
night, and is now taking in the Hemp and Tallow landed
from her.

ELSINORE, Ocr. 9.—The Favourite, Forrest, from
Liverpool to Narva, is reported to be stranded on the
Swedish coast, near Halmstad, on the night of the 4th
instant.

PENZANCE, OCT. 15.—Arrived the Tom Bowline,
from Liverpoo!. On the 9th inst., at half-past five, P. 3r . ,
Barilsey E.N.E., distant five leagues, wind S.W., blow-
ing strong, with a heavy sea, fell in with a brig, supposed
to he foreign, of about 120 tons, deeply laden, having a
bead'and a boat over the stern, apparently abandoned.
She was lying in the trough of the sea, with head sails
furled, top-sail sheets gone, and top-sails beating to pieces.
GREENOCK, OCT. 13.—Arrived the Belmont, Simp-
son, from Bay Chaleur.

The Atlas, Clark, from Hull to London, foundered near
the Dudgeon on the 10th instant—crew saved.
The Endeavour, Oxley, of Shields, got on the Scroby
Sand on Sunday mo: ning, and it was fe tred would be
wrecked.

The Walworth Castle, from , put into St.
Mary's, Africa, 11th ult., leaky, having struck on some
rocks off Bonavista.

The Columbine, Pilcher, from St. Mary's, Africa, is
supposed to have arrived off Swanage.

IIOW A BARRISTER MAY TRAVEL.-It
a well-established rule at the Bar, consecrated by old usage
and observed at the present day, that all B trristt rs shall
travel the Circuit with post-horses, but they may go to
Sessions by coach. If any member of the Bar violates
this practice, his brethren refuse to associate with him ;
or, in other words, lie is cut.—Legal Examiner.—
What will the gentlemen of the long robe do when the
railroads pervade the country ? Wlll they travel post by
steatn•horses ? Really, these distinctions of caste are as
reprehensive as they are absurd. Reform them altogether,
we say.

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HOUSE OF LORDS, OCT. IG.

This day, soon after 2 o'clock, the Lord Chancellor, at-
tended by Lords Lansdowne, Wellesley, Sefton, and
Goderich, entered the House, to act as his Majesty's
Commissioners further to prorogue the present Parliament.
The Lord Chancellor, with the Marquis of Lansdowne on
his right hand, and the Marquis Wellesley on his left,
dressed in their peerage robes, took their seats on the Wool_
sick under the throne, to act as his Majesty's Commis-
sioners. H. Pulman, Esq , the Deputy Usher of the
Black Rod, having commanded the attendance of the Com-
mons, and J. Rickman, Esq , with sundry officers of the
House, appearing below the bar, to represent the said
House, the Lord Chancellor directed his Majesty's Com-
mission to be read. It was accordingly read at their Lord-
ships' table by Edward G. Walmisley, Esq.
The LORD CHANCELLOR then addressed the assembled
Parliament in the following words :—" My Lords and
Gentlemen,—By virtue of his Majesty's Commission,
under the Great Seal, to us and other Lords directed, and
now read, we do in his Majesty's name, and in obedience
to kis commands, prorogue this Parliament to Tuesday,
the 11th day of December next, to be then here holden ;
and this Parliament is accordingly prorogued to Tuesday,
the 11th day of December next."
The Lords Commissioners then bowed, the Commons
withdrew, and the Parliament accordingly stands further
proroeut-d.
Many repairs and alterations appear to be in progress,
but the accommodation for the Press, such as it is, is
in state quo.