The Sun.
London, England, 1835-12-12 00:00:00

BATH CONSERVATIVE DINNER.

This dinner took place at the Assembly Rooms on Thurs-
day. The large room of that building, which is capable of
accommodating 500 persons, was filled at the appointed hour.
The Chair was taken by Sir E. Filmer.
After the customary toasts,
The CHAIRMAN said—ln proposing the next toast, I shall
merely say, I give you the " Heroes of a hundred battles !"
It is " The Duke of Wellington and the Army."
'Colonel DAUBENAY returned thanks.

The CHAIRMAN next called on the company to testify their
regard to the Church.—( Cheers.) Nobody could feel more
disposed than the clergy of that Church to see all real abuses
in it corrected, but they wished to have the reform effected by
friendly, not hostile, hands.—(Hear, and cheers.) " The
Bishop and Clergy of the Diocese."—( Loud cheers.)
The Rev. CHARLES CROOK returned thanks.

HENRY SCITOMBERG, Esq., then rose. We may admit the
right of Parliament to arrange the distribution of Church pro-,
perty, but we deny the right of appropriating it to any other
purposes than that for which it was originally intended.—
(Cheers.) Gentlemen, You are deeply concerned in what I
am going to say. Beware of the danger of precedent—a pre-
cedent for the spoliation of one description of property, will
soon be followed by a total disregard of all rights and pro-
perty.—(Cheers.) Should they who urge and advocate this
rapacious scheme succeed, I fervently hope the All-just Provi-
dence may see it good that they shall be the first to whom
these principles may be applied, and their property (if they
have any)—(Loud cheering)—be the first to fall under the
operation of their own laws.—(Cheers.) This faction are
also opposed to the House of Lords ; and therefore also to
the people; for the House of Lords surely largely represents
the people. It is absurd to say that they represent only
their own class and their own privileges; for their very pri-
vileges and their gradations of rank are necessary to the
body. politic. The career of the Destructives must be ar-
rested.—( Cheers.) When bad men combine, good men should
unite.—(Cheers.) I give you, gentlemen, " The pride of
England—her glorious Constitution—the King, Lords, and
Commons."—(Drunk with applause.)
Sir WILLIAM COCKBURN then proposed the health of their
worthy President, " Sir Edmund Filmer."
The CHAIRMAN returned thanks. The present aspect of
affairs was truly appalling—the state of the country was such
that as they could not, and ought not, to disguise from them-
selves--the plain fact was that every thing had at length re-
solved itself into this momentous question—property or no
property?—(Tremendous applause.) Whatever differences
of opinion might, therefore, formerly have existed amongst
themselves, or between them and the Whigs, it was now their
imperative duty to lay those differences aside.—(Cheers.)
They must look to the present and to the future, they must
not dwell upon the past.—(Cheers.) It was their duty to act
as one man. Yes, they must arouse both the Constitutional
Whigs and Tories, and make them unite under one and the
same glorious banner of Conservatism.—(Cheers ) Let the
true friends of Church and State combine, and they would
soon overcome that tyrannous faction who now controlled
the empire, and whose measures tended to the destruction of
all property and the stagnation of all trade.—(Cheers.) The
Radicals had spoken out. Mr. Roebuck said, "Do away with
the House of Lords."—( Cries of "No : do away with us
first.") What the next step would be was very easily to be
seen. Having done away with the House of Lords, and con-
sequently with the hereditary peerage, the next step of the
Radicals would be to vote the King a nuisance—to do away
with monarchy, substituting in its place a Republic founded
upon the very worst democratic principles.—(Cheers.)
O'Connell he could not but consider as the very cause of all
the misery, or of most of it, of poor unhappy Ireland, by the
agitation of himself and of his priests. The Irish Catholic
priests were, for the most part, very different persons from the
English Roman Catholics. They were, for the most part, of
low birth—men of no education, and of the most bigoted prin-
ciples.—( Here a person, having the appearance of an ordinary
tradesman, exclaimed, '• They are of no education at all !")
Nobody could think of comparing them with the Irish Pro-
testant clergymen, either in knowledge or in ability; while
their habits and manners rendered them totally unfit to super-
intend the religious feelings of the high-minded but easily-
misled and generous peasantry of Ireland. Their controul
over the minds of the people was supreme, and, being per-
fectly 'ready to act under the directions of O'Connell,- the
Government had succumbed to a nest of hornets, which con-
verted Ireland into a close corporation borough of that indi-
vidual.—(Cheers.)
The Rev. Mr. JOLIFFE proposed the health of Sir R. Peel.
The company separated at a late hour of the night.
We cannot close our report of these proceedings without
expressing our thanks to the gentlemen who had the manage-
ment of the dinner for the polite attention which they paid to
those who attended on the part of the London press.

GRAND CONSERVATIVE DINNER

AT SHEFFIELD.

On Thursday evening, a grand Conservative Dinner took
place at Sheffield. At five o'clock dinner was laid on the
table.

HENRY WALKER, Esq., of Clifton House, in the Chair.
Lord Wharncliffe sat on the right hand of the, Chairman,
and John S. Wortley, Esq. (late candidate for the county) on
his left.

After the usual toasts—
The CHAIRMAN gave—" The Duke of Wellington."
The CHAIRMAN said he had now to propose to them as a
toast, " The health of Lord Wharncliffe."—( Cheering.)
Lord \VIIARNCLIFFS felt that he had a great duty to perform
that night to the greatest Statesman in this country, who had
been at the head of the late Administration, in which he bad
borne a share. It was his wish to lay before them in the first
place what it was that that Government, had it been per-
mitted, was prepared to do; secondly, the bit Terence between
the measures of that and of the present Administration ;
and lastly to defend it from the coltunuies which had been
thrown out against it. On that day in 18:14, Sir Robert
Peel returned from the Continent, and at the request of his
Majesty accepted the reins of Government in this coun-
try, not for the purpose of putting a stop to reform, as
was falsely imputed to him, but for the purpose of making
real reforms wherever they were required, in short, to reno-
vate and not to destroy.—( Cheers. ) His first attempt was to
rally round him all those, no tuatter what principles up to that
time they tnighthave professed, who were willing to unite their
exertions in this one common object. The first-persons he ap-
plied to were Lord Stanley and Sir James Graham, but they
refused to join his Government for reasons of their own, which
he would not impugn. He at length formed an Administra-
tion from amongst those in whom he could place confidence,
and amongst the number was himself (Lord Wharncliffe.) In
accepting office under Sir Robert Peel, he forfeited no one
principle that lie had ever advocated, and he had no difficulty
in saying that no Ministry had been ever formed in England
more prepared to act upon independent and honourable prin-
ciples. Their object was not to stop reform, but to give ,it
such a directin" as not to endanger the institutions of the
ddrni try. S'artly after he took office, Sir R. Peel issued an
'ess
cir'' .0 Ms constituents at Tamworth, embodying the prin-
cal tton kb the Government intended to act, and to
tisat address the Ministers were pledged, for it was commun.
eked 4ti all .of them before it was issued.—( Elear, hear, hear.)
!.1 The Whig party at this time had, three modes of proceeding