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TUESDAY, JULY 5.
Tiit Royal Assent was wi:11 by Commission to the Addi.
tiorul Excise Bill, and several titivate Bills.
Tile Bill ;'or the Augmentation of Queen Anne's Bounty
WAS read a first rim; and ottlero to be read a• second Wile
to-morrow.
The Order of the Day being read for going into a Corn-
tr.te on Foote's Divorce Bill, Counsel was called to the
13 .ind evidence heard in iupport of. the Bill ; after which
it ../t.: through the Comniirite.

Gfneral GIISC3YNE gave notice, that be should
on M,,,lday ive for. a Committee to inquire into
the S;nte o[ Trade of this Coutltry, particularly
the 1.1,1,, Ott -!.;.,te, and also for ascertaining the best
mode raft ril,eving- any temptuary embarrassment
that.triglit The reason he gave so long a
notice was, to give an opportunity to Mittister, it
they thought proper, to propose some measure upon
the suhjett.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
said, that Government would bring forward a pro.
position upon this -subjea as"soon as it was proper,
and he hoped no Gentleman would bring it forward
too soon.

General GAS COY NE said., that if Ministers
would pledge themselves to bringfor ward some pro.
position upon the subjea, he would withdraw his

11011 e.

77;;e. CHANCSLLOR of the EXCIIEQUER
ia;01 that Ministers would be governed in their
conduit by, the atate of the Country ; but he trusted
there would be nu occasion to bring such a measure
forward.

General GAscoyrie then said, his notice stood
fur Monday.
Mr. Rost?, brought up the Poor Relief Bill, which
was read a first time.
On the Moti,,n for bringing up the Report of the
East Iturt.4 1) Eck bill,
Sir WILL/An TULTENErobjefted to it ; he
disapproved of many of the provisions of the Bill,
which.he said had been brought in in a clandestine

manner, and contrary to the Corms of the House.
Sir F. llAill NG defended the Bill ; he said it
was not brought in to promote the interest of in.

but with a view of producing great pub.
lie advantage; it would benefit the Ptiblic Revenue;
it would affild ptotehion to trade, and would pre-
vent plunder ; and as' a proof of the merits cf the
Bill there 4.4 aA but one solitary 'Petition against
from a single individual.

Mr. C ALC Rfl PT sai4.l, if this Bill was calcu.'
lated to benefit the Pol,lc Revenue, he would be
the last man to oppose if. 11 these Diicks were
intended for general benefit, why were they not io
a stinati‘in io which all East India ships could de,
rive benefit from iln-tn ? It was invossilile that
litany of the large Hist indiamen cull get into
these Docks ivithßut breaking hulk, and getting rid
of a put of their carr. He was sure iliac there
were situations within the Port of London in which
I) icks might have been made to accommodate all
the East 1,16 Shipping.
Sir T. 114 iq-C: tiLF f!tereci at length into the
grounds upon which the Bill had been brought for.
ward, anti contented, that if the East India Cunt.
pally, if all the perAins concerned in this Trade, it
all the persons who were best acquainted with the
subjeft, were satisfied.with the benefits that would
result from this Rill, he hoped it would outweigh.
the opposition of the two Hon. Members who had
opposed it, however reputable they might he.
, A short conversation ensued between Mr. AT.
KlNti, Mr. DENT, and Mr. VANSITTOT.
The Report was then brought up, atter which
Mr. Qi.‘i.citisET proposed un Amendosent„ the ob-
jed of which was, that Indiamen that were obliged
to break bulk in Long-Reach should not he obliged
to pay the Dot k Dues on the whole of their T, n.
riage. This Amendment was opposed by Sir F.
BARING anti Sir T. METCALF. The Gallery was
cleared for a Division, but we uoderstand it was
rejeard WitlifitH a Divisior.
While strangers were excluded, we understood
that the CHANCELLOR of EXCHEQUER moved that
the I louse should go into a Committee on the
come Bill. When we were re-admitted, we fotind
Mr. Alderman Comet on his legs opposing the
Sekaitee's leaving the Chair. He said he had
been instructed by his Constituents to oppose the
Bi'l, and be should certainly oppose it, because he
coesidered it 41i 13.101 t and partial in its operation.
The LO D .IYOR tkaiti, he was disposed to pay
great respea to the instrudions of his Constituents,
but he must recollen that he was a Representative
of the whole Country as well as of the City of Lon.
don. Ile thought it would be right to know the
provisions of the Bill and the nature of the modifi.
cations that were to be proposed, before an opposi.
tion. was made to the Bill.—He certainly should
attend Most seditiously to the interests of his Con.
stituents, and should in the Committee do all in his
power to snake it as equal as possible in its opera.

Sir 3(411N A.VbERSON said, the Howie did
nut yet know what were the proviAion* of the Bill,
therefore he should vote for the S ritICEK Leavit% the
Chair.

Mr. BASTARD sit he was not one of those
who thought Clot the Cutiqtry had better than
the incotrK Tax be loid on, but he to to know
to what extent land wa% to be taxed, before he give
consent to the SPEAK WS leaving the Chair.
The C ANCELLOR oil the EXCHEQUER said,
that e, en tf he gave on twfavoutoble AIWA er to the
Lion. Gentleman's question, it would no: instil.y him
in posing the ER's le.tving the Chair, bv; mse
it was open to any Gentleman to propose Binen,s,
tinentk in tue Committee. Ili ars:ver to the 1-1.,)n.
Gentleman's question Orr Provrirtor
Land could nut be taxed more than 5 per Lent. for

the land lie it.t to Ms tenant ; but if he united the
characters of landlord and tenant, and kept his hind

in his own hands; he would pay in both situations,
viz. rs. in the pound as landlord, and 91 as tenant.
In reply to what had fallen from the worthy Abler.
man, he said, that when the Income Tax was brought
forward,. he gave it his support, because he consi.
tiered it as a wise measure, and he was far from
wishing to possess any popularity from having propo.
sed to repeal it, because he upon that occasion
stated, that that measure, or some modification of
it must be resorted to again at the commence.
ment of a War. He never considered that it was
impossible to soften that measure, but until he had
looked into 'it with the best assistance he could pro-
cure, he was not aware of the means which might
be adopted to render it palatable to the feelings of
the People. The difference between the present
Bill and
_the Income TAX was not in the general
principle, but in the mode of colleEling it, because
he hoped the plan now proposed would prevent the
necessity of disclosure. It was proposed to make
a distinction between that species of property
which was visible, such as Land and Money
which was lent upon Interest, and that species
of property which arose from Trade or Professions.
With reprd to the latter, it was very necessary
to avoid the necessity of disclosure as much as pos.
sible, so as nor to give an opening to fraud. He
flattered himself that having bestowed great atten.
tion to. this subjeet, that a mode would be seggested
by which the necessity of disclosure would, in a
great degree, be prevented ; but this would be a
matter of future consideration. Another advantage
.attending this measure .was, that it would be more
simple, anti less inconvenient in its operation than
the Income Tax. These were some of the leading
features of the measure. His wish was, that the
House would permit. the -Amendments to be made
pro forma, that theh the Bill should be printed ; all
he asked was, that the measure should he fully
and fairly examined. He by no means
,flattered
himself that it 'was possible, in a measure of
such magnitude and importance as 'the present,
to render this Bill completely unobjeetionahle:
Ire was afraid that even after he had had the
benefit of the wisdom of that House, the measure
would be attended with serious difficulties and oh.
jections. The House, therefore, would not think
of rendering the Bill perfect, but of rendering it as
petted as possible. He did not believe that it was
the wish of the Citizens of Lontion,that while the rest
of the Community was called upon to contribute so
largely, that they should not contribute their fair
proportion : he was sure such could not be the wish
of the Cif'', of London, and lie trusted that the
Worthy Alder Man would lend his assistance in
the Committee to render this measure as tinob-
jeClionable, • and at the same time as efFeCtual
as it was possible; because unless that Honour.
able Member was prepared to suggest some other
mode by which the Citizens of London and the
trading part of the community in general could be
called up 'n to bear their share in the general burthen,
he would not, he was sure, give an unqualified
position to this measure.—After the measures that
had been adopted
_and the large sums that had been
raised, the House would not do their duty if they
were to stop there, and not to call upon other classes
of the community for their share of the contribu.
titan, who were not in immediately affeded by the
tne:mtres which had already been agreed to.
Mr. BASTARD explained.
Mr. GRZOOR said, he did not mean to objeft
to this measure-altogether, though he thought some
parts of it were very objedionable, and particularly
that the Tax upon Land was rs, ;14*, in the round.
which was larger than the Tax upon other species
of property.
The ATTOR Ey GRATER/IL replied, that
land was not taxed. at Is 9.1. in the pound, but the
tax went upon this principle, that land produced
two incomes, one to the landlind and another to
the tenant, and that was the principle upon which
the tax was founded, which evidently was not a
tax of ts. 91. upon land.
Mr. Gkft3oll. explained;
Si; ROBERT BUXTON observed,. that when
we considered that we were fighting foe all that
was dear to us, it behoved every man to set his
shoulder to the burthen and bear it as well as he
could. It would be their duty in the Committee
to render the burthen as light as possible,
Lord A. HAMILTON said a few words respell.
ing the. Tax upon Land, in which we understood
him to announce his intention of making some pro.
position in the Committee respecting that Tax as
it involved the consideration of the Ail of Union
between England anti Scotland.
Sir FRANCIS BARING thought an Income
Tax, generally speaking, the only proper Tax to be
imposed upon Commercial men, he objsCled, how.
ever, to number of interrogatories being pest to
men of that description teseeetiati. their Income,
which would only tend to distress and perplex them;
as com nercial men in a large way of business could
not tell exadly the amount of their income, although
they might be enabled to forma tolerable guess.
Dr. L AIVRENCE was inclined to think the last
Income Tax a preferable measure to the present ;
with respeet to the latter, however, the objections
would be better discussed in the Committee.
Mr. KINNAIRD observed, that the Hon. and
Learned Gentleman (the ATTORNEY GENERAL)
had taken great pains to prove that this was not a
'Lend-tax, The Right Hon. Gentleman (the CHAN.
c ELLOX of the 14:eel-let/Vita) had said on a former
occasion, that this was nut an Income Tax. He
did not mean to resist the Tax, but he thought the
Right 11 ,n. Gentleman was too squeamish with re.
speil to names, and he must have a distinet avowal
from the Right Hots. Gentleman,. whether this was
to he considered as a Tax 'upon distind species of
Property, or as an ,Income, Tax.
Mr. IV. SMITH said, unless there were solid
objections to a 'Fax, no man ought certainly to af.
tempt to Clog the wheels of GA ernment. He felt
a disinclination to oppose a Tax at the present mo.
meta, an.i if the principle of the present measure
was to -be taken in the extreme aluttlitt, he could
o o Oppose it at all. If the abstratt principle was
to be takeoff that every man ought to conirihtite
his fair proportion, then every difficulty might be
ut over. This however would not be in confor.
144 with the etm4titutioti..4i foxrits and usages of

the, House ; he had a right to consider the moasort
101 it was then before the House. This Tax was
neither more nor less than an Income Tax, and his
sobjedion to it was, as was that of the greater part of
he Count! y, that it was not an equal Tax upon
Property, but an equal Tax' upon Income, which
was an ulcer-11 Tax upon. Property. It had been said
upon a former occasion, that the modifications and
deduCtions rendered the Tax as far as possible equal.
He did not , mean to say that it was possible to
render any Tax equal, but they could not take two
eval shares from two descriptions of property, in
their nature unequal. Some Incomes were derived
wholly from Industry, from exertions both bodily
and mental, others were enjoyed without exertion,
and generally those which were derived from great
labour, were the most precarious ; if the latter class
were multiplied into the other, the disproportion
would be enormotp. -The great evil of this Tax
was. the disclosure consequent upon it ; with resped
to this sullied, however be would say but little,
as he did not know the nature of the provisions in.
tended to be proposed, but it must fall with pe.
culiar hardship upon those most exposed to other
hardships. This, added to the inequality of the
Tax, rendered it unequal in the highest degree. He
admitted that the money must be raised, but it
behoved them to consider what were the best modes
in which. that money could be raised so as to keep
the People in good humour, Adam Smith had re.
probated an Income Tax as always injurious to
Commercial States, but had foretold that the time
might arrive when the Free States of England and
Holland might be forced to recur to Taxes similar.
to those imposed under the arbitrary Government of
Spain. Upon this subject he had looked into a book
published in the beginning of the last century, in
which he found amongst the Spanish Taxes, the
Income Tax p but in Spain, instead of subjeding
commercial men to the Petty Officers of Govern.
merit, the Cities and Commercial Towns were al.
lowed to assess themselves, and to charge each indi.
victual with, his proportion. Ile believed that the
commercial men of London would rather pay a d„o.
ble Tax than be subjected 'to a disclosure of their
affsirs. He did not mean to say that the Opinions
of Adam Smith ought to decide a question of thiS.
nattare, but he could not find any opinion of any
Author on the contrary side of the question.
Lord IfiIifiKESBURY said, he should rather
have chosen to defer the discussion on this subj:d
to a future day, but he did not wish the speech of
the lion. Gentleman (Mr. SMITH} to go forth un.
answered. The Hon.- Gentleman had laid -dowo
two principles, in which he pettedly agreed, that.
no Tax could be pettedly equal, anti that it was
their duty to make it as equal as possible. Of these
principles, however, the Hon. Gentleman seemed
afterwards to have lost sight. Though an locome
Tax was alegllflh it was not more so than any.
other Tax. The Hon. Gentleman hattapproved of,
tine idea of raising a large parr . of the Supplies
within the year ; but whatever might he his opinion,
or the o:tinion of any one respelling that subject,
with reference to the inequality or equality of a
Tax, the effed was the same; as whether ten mile
lions or one were to be raise,) within the year, the
principle was the same. Upon this principle he,
would ask, whether a Tax on Income could be con.
sidered as beating heavier upon the Community, that,
Taxes upon Consumptiem ? He knew that it had
wisely been endeavoured to impose Taxes upon Con.
sumption, but, that power was now much lisuited.
In former times it had been found mote expedient
to tax one or, two articles of consumption, than all
tine objedions would there apply with more force
than in the present case, where this Tax, which
would be more properly denominated a Tax upon
Produce, w-uld bear as equally as possible upon all
classes. With resped to the distindion taken
between Income derived from industry, and. Income.
derived from Ancestors, or however acquired, en.
jr)yed. without industry, he should only observe,
that no proposition, containing such a distintlion,
had ever been acknowledged by the Legisiatore, it,
was inconsistent with the whole frame and systern
of Government, nor had it been aded upon with re.
sped to the Land Tax, Poors Rates, Sec. which had
always been raised upon the produce of the Lied
without considering the nature of the tenure. If
the Tax upon Income was to be considered as fixed,
it would be found that was it nearly equal ; but if
the contrary, the projed went to impose an unequal
Tax, and tended to change the relative situation of
all orders of men in society., To the situations of
persons enjoying Incomes without deriving them
from Industry, duties were attached which render.
ed a certain expenditure necessary, from width those
who derived their Incomes immediately from their
own industry, were exempt ; if they took from
Commercial Men, they must take that which might
otherwise go to increase their Capital,. whilst in the
other case, they must take from Expenditure, Which,
would hear harder. Taking them therefore as classes.,
it would not be found that one description of pro.
petty was mote severely pressed upon than another.
If a large sum was to be raised within the year, it
must necessarily fall heavy, but it would he faurid,
that this mode of raising a part oft hose Supplies was
not more unequal than any other.
Mr. MILLIARD observed, that if the House
would only refer to the Income Tax, of which this
was a branch, it would be evident that great 'mien.
tion was due to the subjed ; and he wished to call
the attention of the House to that, for it would
have a great duty to perform : the first was,' to
make the Bill as produdive as possible, for that
was most important in the present state of our af.
fain, and in the contest in which we were en.
gaged ; the next consideration was, to render'the
Bill as little objedionable as possible, and that was
likewise an object which would require great at ten.
Lion in tine House. Much was to be avoided of that
which was inserted in the Income Tax ; much of
the odium which attended that Tax arose from the
manner in which some of the Clauses were framed.
This Bill would throw new odium tin tine framers of
it, anti cause almost a want of affedion, in the Peo,
pie, unless care was taken of the manner of wording
tine Clauses, and place 'those, whose patriotism in;
heed them to take the trouble of Commissioners to
carry the Bill into effect, in a very disagreeable
tuation. therefore wished these three points to
be particularly attended to, and the House had a.
great duty no perform In these particulars,

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Me. ERS K !NE viil, that we were now in a al-
citation which must strike us, and which demanded
our attention ; and he was as ready as any Member
to admit that this measure, which might partly be
called an Income Tax, ought not to be adopted tine
less our situation called for it ; but he thought
our situation did call fur this and many other
measures to support the State ; for it appear-
ed to him that we are nom in a great crisis of
our affairs ; but lie spoke it not with disinair -
he spoke it only to induce caution and preps-
ration. The Eilerny, as it seemed to him, had hut
two modes by which they could hope to overpowet
uirPbeserraedoettl lie:
leeoywuo rnemereeix:ti
in'aleitil'riceleet exigences
more
nu
smp ei invade
rreodluh,sa un
than)'w ea
tclotalunrtslb,l the other,
aaonrt.dh. etlirs:el It. eetiot•
der, to Invade us;
was invaded with effect, or invaded at all, it could
and
therebfoyrethief hotrss
Country
was • .
only be, because we do not skew among,ourselvea
spirit of unanimity in its defence. How wail igoa
possible to make an impression on ten millions ot. •
men, resolved to defend our Lida, and with opt.
rior means of defence ? He could not suppose that a.
Invasion was the way in which France meant 10
oppose England : he thought they would attaeje "1'
in another way, to make us adrow a system SO O"
pensive, and continue it so longs to tire out the.'
People, and, in the end, to produce discontent no ..,
der their burthens, to create divisions among 111*
and, finally, to accomplish that which nothing buter;
disunion among ourselves could efil!it. It was Oa
duty to ourselves to frustrate that design, and IP
counteraa it, which we could ..,only do by uniots
and readiness to snake sacrifices worthy of the ohe':.
jeft. It appeared to him, therefore, that the Rids '...
ought to make sacrifices, and to consent to any Via .'
vations of the enjoyment of their wealth, and to *;
bear a large portion of the public burthens. It
seemed to him, that the more scrupulous honour.
able Members 'were (though lie believed their all to
be equally desirous to preserve their Country) about
a sew guineas, the more they cavilled against the .
inequality of any Tax, the more they would satisfy.:
the Enemy. It was for this reason that he wished-':
the present measure to be supported, although it re. 1...
setnbled the late Income Bill, on which lie nevet,;,
spoke. He considered this Bill.as a measure neceseao:
sera, for our situation at thin moment ; not con
iiering-it as-a permanent measure, but as the meats_
of supporting us in a crisis, he supported it those
fuse.; and the snore ready we were to skew Our oak-a
niaoty, and to bury our little differences of opi•':,
Man, the better ; indeed it was absolutely neceia
sary the HOOst SIIISUId pursue that cootie, for ho 'v. a
could the House exec& the People to come forward 1
with unanimity, if the House of Commons, iristeak.a..
of setting them die example, should be debating o,na
little points, of how nosily guineas one man (togas
bit(e,:e,vreie(mr:;nact:\lvet,w.t)(siswimil,:4;lliiyi.rcshammo hisr than n . another.F I iei
id Uponaiis tot
hteheadotofer
et Ita in , and thatin 'stenilltuidcdelter tilvw,statish eial.c(d''qiinfeu itrile'ead7clawyhiol4:ifibl Labour,
:
diligence, Of exertion, he could only say,
the present case it was a thing not worth attending
to, when the objeel was that of providing for th.o.
owpopuol
would
e riete, 0
iflueret
safety of the Sottesas.his own income was by hiaottaf.t'...
worth two years purchase,
exertion, and it was a that ie .:'
property which was 01.-
' end that
printiri a : ''clats case fi
nt I 1 i which, tt.h
Billwasa t
rlPi
ainsaretillcii(l:stnsibil: ce:3irilrillYtin(y) ie:chta"a"si: hiu
dr:. measure
°lsh'nuie7r:sll!:::::ll....:'
was less urgent; and theretore, unless a . ,
~,,.
was found for this measure, he should consider ova,
dosawhnehaoyijiseutellirddoeia.tiihoiyeastracts)ofr: jurinuarein:t,lktrey:owti:tiihitaotilhssiae;on.rloloaonillisyjee:.otoiliorlenorsu: taccsr
iall.fiirliogy 8,!
although he knew and felt that he got
_,,,,,
bread not only by the . sweat ,of his - bra
as
income much of
Was hisp
ei
I,l'l
,CnOarnn
clihOig:t
but
.with more toil than that both of bodily 00";
mentel exertion, for he said that this was nit
the time for cavils fur .a few guineas; the Onso.,
signal the unanimity of the People of England 10,
the better. His objet was Peace. He wished
avoid a War if possible. shirt being in a War loa
next object was to exert himself, in ordet to to
the Enemy seek for Peace. 'flail was his rtinttOr ,
this occasion : - .
" Beware of entering into a quarrel,
" hut tame in, beat it so,
" That thy Opposer may beware of thee."
Mr. C. WESTERN thought that this Bill 01°1,
to establish a system of inquisition, and the I.lo°' ...
ought to pause before it adopted it. , '
ll'
Sir T. M ETC :IL I.' approved of the rneasture,.
founded on the principle of the Income Tax, er .
assigned reasons why that measure was tint so oreti.,„
duative as had been expetled, and had been stilii74
by the great authority who brought it forward. Pal
ptuceeded to state the causes of the failure in th.
produce of that Bill, when he was called to order bi
Mr. W. SMITH who thought that any sliscOg
sion on another Bill. was a wandering from the sub''
jell now before the House. •
Sir 7'. AIETC,III: said, it was a little extraori; '.
dinary that the Hon. Gentleman, of all Member/ i
ft, .
the Hobe, should call him to order, far that Wait
_,
Gentleman had himself called the attention of w.
House this night its the discussion of this very Ine4it I..dia.
sure, to the labours of a Spanish Author a ceottur,;l
ago, to those of Atlant Smith and David Ill'a,'et.l'
The Hoo. Baronet then proceel/41.e.1 to Irate the coltitia:
why he apprehended the last Income Bid woi ...,,
productive than it might have been by way of sh,c4.o„
ing what was to be dune for avoiding those deTcoaa
in this. He thought that was by allowing peoo,e,
in Employmeets, Professions, Trade, Ste. to i'vola.
their Income front average, instead of making!'iposT
swear to the amount of tie last-year. The orov" ofea
in favour of Land-owners also were among de,;
Causes of the inefficiency of that Bill. If these ril
feels were avoided, and this Bill made free 01,11:fit :'.
and some other defeets, he had but little iinin,itlii:,
would produce as notch as the last did, eltheoie
took only a twentieth instead of a tenth.' ‘ 11
' inA
The question was then put arid carried avigh°,:'.!
A division, and the Sl' EAK V It left the Chair.
The House in .1 Committee upon the Bills • ka
I R osl
1
Tht CHANCELLOR if the EXC ii EQ. t; ~,,rirtl
he (mated there W. 15 no objettion to his de'l, ,osco 1
in the amendinenis to the Bill now, with a dc‘..
.:,

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ention of moving to take filetii into hirthet,cou.
station on a (attire ci y, and.then.ntoving to have
recommitt.d, upon which occa3ion'an opportunity
~rould.be afforded to enter again upon the detail of
to Bill. •
Mr. PLOAIER observed that he, as well as in iny
Members of that 1-I..stre, had a double duty to the
that of attending to the administrating of
p,rice at the Quarter sessioni—,-when both oiled at
ace, he knew which to prefer, and therefore he.
Fished. to know when this Bill was to be recom.
fitted.

ThiCII.4NCF.I.LOI?of the EXC H EQUE R 3aid,
e believed that the Bill with the amendments would
'... .e printed, by Friday, in which case, unless he gave
,otice to the contrary tomorrow, he should propose
0 recommit the Bill on Monday.
Mr. PLUME'? said, he • had got his answer,
% . hick was to guide his condull, which was, if he
!multi bz. alive, to be in the House on Monday.
The arnendinents were then all received pro/9,./r4, and the
) louse being resumed, the Report was received inunediately,-.•
lie Bill with Amendments ordered t 0.4 printed, anti taken'
;nu) further co,'...—lerati.in on Monday.. .
A 'Message from the Lords informed the House their Lord-
., hips had agreed to the English. and Scotch Army of Reserve
0:ill, with several Amendments, to which they desired the
oneurrence of the I touse.—Ameildinents age ;.d to.
The House in a Committee voted a Resolution that seven
guineas a man be allowed as a, bouhtY for raising Men in Ire.
and.—Report to be received to.mortnw,
:--• The Rep ' Report of the Committee of Ways and Means ,-for
for
raising • one Million by Trelsury Bills in Ireland—mid and
-:, agreed to .
"l'he Sa ea r-r Alt Y at WAR moved the Order of the Day for
taking into further consideration the English Militia Pay
Bill.—The Bill was rreommitted immediately. -
..
In. the C.ldirlitiee, Mr. BAsTAku said,- that with re.
-:, . Kant to the vizOtce which' was to to tht, result of this Bat,
ne hoped that the ,Braish Militia would not learn the whole
Austrian discipline There was apart of that tliSLlplihe
which neither the ()dicers of tite4iritisli Militia nor. the
Men umn.r..in,,,i, and he hoped rhey.would never t.t,t:ierstand
it, that was to retreat. He imped, 48 hail been said alreaay,
that -while an hundred Englisn militia men were together,
• they would never retreat one inch I they might advance at
command, but never retreat—many of us might fall.; but if
this 'Was our determination, wa must be at last sUcc.esstel,
we wliuted-no instructions to dispose Of ourcourage, any way,
but to exert it—Austrian:: might retreat, Austri..tis might be.
clefeiited,,Austrisn4 might he • disgraced, but the English
' _must do neither, trust' fight ulltil they deleat their. enemy,
they must Milt while a man icrnains of them- to be opposed,
- to a fie Such a spirit would be invincible, and.such a spirit
the people of Lngiand possessed, and weruld:slicw on a fit
1 . occasion-for showing it—that was his opinion,--11e then pro.
seeded to make some° niervations on the Bitilats it related to
the conditit.n of Adjutants and ether Officers. . , -. '
This produced a snort conversation between Mr. RA at/ten,
Nlr. DEN Nii kIitOWNC, lttull'lCSlClttiAitY AT WA*,aftcr
which the. Bill passed the Committee.-.. House resumed—
Re_p_ortto.MOritivv. , .

Mr. 11,6 tNrtN so to deferred "the motion of which he hid
given not:ce until to-morrow. ••
The Irish ReOnueorcAulatiun Dill passed the Committee—
Report to-morrow.
The Irish Subaltern Militia ()freers Family Relief nil!,
was read a first tirm—ordered•set:ond raading Tnursday next ;
as also the 13ill for Kepi:film; the Colleetivn of the I rish.gc-
venue—Or:fact! to he printed.
Agreed to go to.morrow into a Committee, to consider of
Exportation of Coin, tic. to Guernsey and fergcy '; 311(1.4156
int^ tk avibied of Bonding, with respell to Portugal Wine.,
Scot-it Absesacji to he further considered on Thum.
day ; Friendly f7,,ai.:ty Isil!..re.ul a `sci and titre ; Lottery. Bill
a thud tints; .5 Millions. Excliever Hills Bill a second time
Cominit tee to-moi row .—Adji,uriled at rine o'ooCk.