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London, England, 1832-05-12 00:00:00

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friends giving any pledge. He should state that a debate
earl occurred whether Mr. Ponsonby should answer these
questions, in which Mr. Wynne--(Hear, hear)—_expressed
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s hope that the House would allow the answers to he
even, and also stand that during the administration of
Lord North such a course bad been adopted. Lord
'estlereagh bad also stated, that although that militt be au
inconvenient time for putting the questions, there could be
lo objection to the principles of them entitling to clear the
character and conduct of publiernen. At which Mr. Pousonb v
rose, and he (Mr. Duncombe) was willing to give the Right
Honourable Baronet the full benefit of his answer :
—" No person whatever, up to this morning,
eas mace any proposal to me as to any gentleman whom
I have the honour to call my friend." In consequence of
the reports to which he had alluded, be begged leave
to ask these questions of the Hight Honourable Baronet
,pposite. It was confidently reported that the Rlghi
Hon. Baronet, and those gentlemen who had opposed all
reform had accepted office under the Duke of Wellington,
and had &yen a !sledge of granting some species of Par-
liamentary Reform:
Sir R. PELL tiegged leave to claim the right of being
left to his own diecretion—notwithstanding the authorities
cited by the Hon. Memher—in answering his question.
" I do not hesitate," said Sir R. Peel, " to state that I
stand here in a private capacity only.—(Hear.) I also du
not hesitate to declare, that the rumour to which the
Hon. Gentleman has allnded, of my having accepted ffice
under the Duke of Wellington, is wholly unfounded.—
(Hear, hear.) The fact is, I have received no invitation
from any person authorized to make one to accept office,
awl therefore stand here in my private rapacity."—
(Cheers.) It was because he stood there in a private ca-
pacity that he begged leave to entreat the House to take
care that while it expressed its opinions on the great ques-
tion which now occupied the public mind with firtnne.e,
to do so temperately.—(Hear, hear.) He felt that neither
he nor any other Member had a right to dictate to any
gentleman the measure of vehemence with which he should
give utterance to his feelings, but be also felt it to he a
matter of duty to respectfully urge-- upon the House the
expediency, .indeed imperative.ueoeesity, of not adding' to
the excitement of the public by violent expressions, or user.
necessary reference to-- delicate and it:Senn:table topice,e.-
(Hear.) It was the more neeeesery that they sheu!d ab-
stain from such indiscreet allusion, and exciting topire;
as
there was no man in that House authorised to aetess
the House on the part of the Crown, so as to give
an official centradietion to the vague assertions 'or
unfounded rumours, affecting the public mime,
like
that just referred to, and apparently credited, by the
Hon. Member for Hertford; else why foand, a question
upon it? It was by no means inept-01141e that mat 9,
other rumours equally groundless, and equally stirnulAnt
to the public mind, might be in circulation, which, how-
ever, it might not be so easy to expose; so that he frosted
in the absence of persons authorized by the Crown to speak
officially, that lion. Member would ezercia.e a wholesorna,
discretion in bringing them in an authoritative manner be-
fore the public.—( Hear.) For example, the lion. Member
for Carlisle had made a rumour which no man could take
upon him to officially contradict, and which, repeated ire
Parliament without being contradicted, must necessarUy,
aggravate the dangerously excited state of the public mind,
That Hon. Member, in alluding to a report which might
have no foundation whatever, that Parliament was to het
dissolved on Monday by the Duke of Wellington's Go-
vernment, made a most inflammatory appeal to the deter-
mination of the people, not to be diverted from their puje,,
opfosienibliy the swords
taryrule, and ha
andwhich,yneboeta and other
repeated,
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those authorized to contradict or affirm the'regeert, was
only calculated to add to the excitement of thane out
doors. Again, the Hon. Member for Rye had made it *
charge against the Duke of Wellington, that the last, act
of his official career was marshalling a strong =knee!
force to act against the people in the city of leendon..—
(Hear.) He would calmly recall their attention to the
facts of the case, The King was to have dined with the
civic authorities of the city of London on the 9th of No.
vember. Great apprehensions were entertained that these.
casion would be made instrumental in disturbing the public
peace, and accordingly the necessary precautions were.
taken to protect the lives and properties of the inhebie
tante against all marauders. It was douhtleos true thas is
order to afford aid to the civil authorities,—if the
nieii
force should not he equal to the protection of thee public
peace,—that he, as Home Secretary, (and hc. therefore-,
and not the Duke of Wellington, was reprehensible for the
act). desired the Commander-in.Cbief to have a military
force in readiness to aid the civil force in quelling disturb•.
ante.—(Hear.) And God foakid that the time shouldevee,
.cone when any Hoene-Secretary would refuse, on a levetue
occasion, to at all hasearda call upon the military to 'seise
the civil power in protecting the pablic peace.--(Oppositiou
cheers.) But what did they do on the occasion ?
simply, when they found that there were serious apprelieln-.
'lions that the immense asseroblyt,iowlclicithytaihez:nciasaiosr,:oLu.4l4
collect might, at a period of the year in which e4e. short-
ness of the days afforded great facilities to mitiehief,
riot, be led into acts of collision,—in the teettiestaocopetee
haps with the police, and next with the rei:itary,—thev ad,
vised his Majesty not to attend
intended, and thereby preoluded the possibility of the. col._
Won and its consettkeescee.--(Hear.) - And for eerie. ho..
mane policy they were et the time censured e,a, utatieees-
gary alarmists ; White, ',now the Gallant Meenher, on the
other hand, denounced them for having meditated some-
thing like military oppressioli.
Lord ALTHORP was maim:, to add his vole. to that
of of the Right Hon. Baronet lee soggeeting the wiedom of
their being femperate, ao less than firm, in the expressiute
of their opinionye and in avoiding thope vehement rumour-.
'ounded appeale and insinuations which were hkedy se
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must feel, that till; their euccenors weer appointed, they
were legally responsible for the preservation of the public
eeace, ha Would earnestly impress upon Hon. Members the
cenviction that tenaperateeees was the beat flumes to the
great end they had 41,1 in view, and that nothing was to be
more deprecated by every honest friend ofliberal princip/e.ei
than discussions calculated to unduly excite out of doors.
He would be the la.-1 man to call upon the pease to depart
from the firms, and decided expression and advocacy of
those peinciples which they hod hitherto supported, but he
could remind them that temperance and calmness were the
best and most congenial allies they could enlist on the side
of those principles, and threw thruugh whoae agency thea-
were most likely to be "ecne4cial: to the conetry.—( Heat.),
He wished also to imgeriot it opou the mind of every, man,
in the cowry who. wiVi friend to Reform, that nothing
could tend more to impede the great measure which they
eling,
had so long been advancing towards comp.,letion, than any
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ebullition of popular feeling at all invoking a breach of thie
public peace.—(Cheers.) It lathe duty of every bongo
Reformer to impress this inaieutent fact upon the miodao&
the people, and it wtka his urgent hope that 'rt, would, be
acted upon, 4;4413 the people would seek for their rights
firmly, bat temperately, and by no ulnae which the laws
did not recognize as Within thoie boenetia...-(Hear, hear.)
Mr. WARBURTON tlettight that the best course the,
people could pursue to ettehe their rightiOerat to vigilantly
wfuh:it'lsle'ehbeustideruiptyle.
swie:ytcuehantbvre oafgatihnastt tifileit'ur t4.ia net! tantirii return.
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its
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were spoken of in Parliament, as an omen fskyourab!,
popular rights. They were ran longer the " ral?bie" 0::
:he " swinish multitude," belt the " intelligeerle"
bid country. nt pto.

Mr. GIL LON charmed, it hid given },ifiG, 014 term
lively satisfaction to have heard the pacifism, which had
lust been presented, as it clearly abowsd that Engli,hmen
sere worthy of that which they demanded—their right- ette4
liberties. As no Member from Scotism' hod yet expp area
his opinion of this cuotneatous crisis, he could nut avoid,
iying—and he. we! sure that in doicg or he express.
the Nentiments of 9-10 the of hie countrymen that tke
intelligence of the retirement of Ministers would be there
heard with horror and dismay. He trusted in God thy
feeling would not proceed further ; and be bid great con,
idence in the peel sense and discretion of his country-
inen, as well as in their zeal and determination. At the
same time he awaited with breathlesa anxiety the araival
of news from. Scotlao,d, The vote Of this House last night
would do touch to tranquillize the public mind ; they bad
,gown that they were true to the trust reposed in them ;
end while they were true to the people, and the people
rue to themselves it was irepoisible but they must pre..
'ail. He was certain the example set so nobly by the
C,lty of London and the Reformers of Birmingham would
:e followed by the whole country; that every great com
in the umpire would sued up pe-
nunity and every village
,tious to this House, begging thrlA to thip all supplier,
(ill the Reform Bill was passed. And could he doubt
hat the Reformers in this House would do their
uty ? If they consented to vote supplies to an un-
,,ro,ni,ag or • wavering Genre:rne:l4 .they' would
irreit all character fur consistency—all claim on
ie confidence of their constituents. Toils was a 1..-
,turce left to this House and to• the people, to I it
rands to haughty lords and overpaid and treacherous