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18, Great Knight-rider-street,
Doctors Commons.

9 RPHAN WORKING SCHOOL, CITY.
ROAD, for the Maintenance Instruction, ad Employmeni
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°rPhans, and other Necessitous Children. n
HENRY WEYMOUTH, Esq., Treasurer.
SEVENTY-FIFTH ANNIVERSARY.
The ANNUAL SERMON for the benefit of this Charity will
he preached on WEDNESDAY, the Bth of April, at the Chapel in
the
School, by the Rev. J. J. DA VIES, of Tottenham. Service
..,.. Commence at Eleven o'Clock precisely.
thelhe Governors and Friends of the Charity will dine together on
sarne day, at the Albion Tavern, Aldersgate-street.
The Right Hon. Lord BROUGHAM in the Chair.
'lnn,. Richard Baker, Esq. STEWARDS.
Daniel Lister, Esq.
i,,:,°,,uam„„ P. Bartlett, Esq, Stephen Olding, Esq.
• walk, j,,,,, _ r Drake, Esq. Francis Phene, Esq.
,7 zastimpe, Esq. Alfred M. Randall, Esq.
Evan Edwards, Esq. ' George Butt, Esq.
„','ns Esdaile, Esq. Isaac Sewell, Esq.
.r. Aler, Bankey, Esq. James Smith, Esq.
b°„selTh Rardcastle, Esq. John Travers, Esq.
lt?ger Lee, Es.
Robert Winter, Esq.
..award Edwards' Esq.
,_Llerienyr. to be on table at Five o'Clock. Tickets 15s. each, to
ue had;t the Albion Tavern, of any of the Stewards, and of the

JOHN BOLT, Secretary

.c------------ TURNS.
()LINTY FIRE OFFICE RE ---
, Notice is hereby given to all persons who in 1834 completed
''„`ltir terms of Seven Years' Insurance, to receive the accustomed
lhtteturns at the Head Office in Regent-street ;of the Agents through
orn they have insured in the Country, and of the following
Agents in the neighbourhood of the Metropolis :-
11. ye Exchan•e ...Mr. R. Peake.
Whitechapel b W. Kirby, Leman-street.
Mile End- J. Francis, White Horse-lane.
Litnehouse J. Cannam, Warkworth-terrace.
Stratford S. Morris.
Hac
Bhoreditch
Claptonkney
Pali R. Mitchell.
ngt
T. Doswell.
on
treaAnden-town
atopstead G. Lever.
Padden
Aot
H. Gunby.
gton R. Holloway.
Brantford T. Webb.
Newington-causeway
J. Laing.
''ewington-causeway ... ...... C. Gee.
Grnberwell C. Good.
Geenwich R. Adams.

illiii---------:::-22-----:-SUANT to a Decree of the Hight Court of
1I,„ Chancery, made in a cause of HARRINGTON v. NE-
Gt;°N, bearing date the 30th day of January, 1835, wherein Sir
. .
iikiir:N WlLsoN,lone of the Masters of the Court, is directed to in-
t!, Whether any, and what appointment was made by Margaret
itrilltnn deceased, the wife of Robert Harrington, of the
e'itl,' °, Carlisle, Esq., formerly Margaret Benson, of the same
tie., spinster, of 4,3971. 18s. Reduced Three per Cent. Annui-
virt' Part of the property settled upon the marriage under and by
by
,t!e of the power of appointment reserved to. Mrs. Harrington,
itotne settlement made upon her marriage bearing date the 26th
11" ..%)f September, 1789, and to which settlement Mr. and Mrs.
boatii:Lt!gton, and Edward Nevinson and Joseph Dacre Carlysle,
Ati°' the same city, are parties;—
po• 'tit' Persons claiming any interest under any appointment or ap-
AL' nlents so made, are to come in on or before the first day of
Hester
next, and establish their respective claims, before the said
lat7„ter: at his chambers, in Southampton-buildings, Chancery-
bell'e) London, that they may not peremptorily be excluded the
..,..._ k of the said decree.
C----....
UY,Ap CLOTHING at SWAIN and CO.S,
A TAILORS,93, Fleet-street, for Cash.
' SSA of Su erfine Clothes £4 111 0
0,., Blue or Black
bitt B p
5 10 0
ditto , imperial Saxony 6 0 0
Am; ;Ae.sterli ham and Harrington Great Coats B3 0
lain Suit of Livery 4 10 0
Itrio;:erY °trier article equally cheap. A great variety of plain,
troti", corde(l, and diagonal ribbed kerseymeres, for gentlemen's
',4,1,4. Al, o a large and splendid assortment of figured silks,
i31....„..._,:2Aier lei as, &c., for waistcoats.
rst-rate Business Premises, 13, New Bond-street, facing the
t,4
.„ CI trendon Hotel, and adjoining Long's.
IC ALLEN DAVIS is instructed by Messrs.
8 Starr ai id Mortimer, in consequence of their recent removal,
kEtt'L hY AIICTION, on MONDAY, April 6, at Twelve, the
l're, rEROLD INTEREST in the commanding and attractive
A10t,4,14e5, forum ny years past in their occupation, being No. 13, New
Pos„,:street, con sisting of a dwellingand light double-fronted shop,
l'ett4tihlg the iv' .at extent of 56 feet frontage, most valuable to any
atrade where a fashionable situation and first-rate publicity
eiou4st the hi 1: r orders can be rendered available, and their due
ter 4"ence ge
appreciated. The lease is for along term, and at the
-111!')W rent
Nap e‘Pretnises may he viewed any day. preceding the sale ; parti-
-22, 4.,nere had, and of Mr. Allen Davis, Auctioneer and Valuer,
Ps's:-..allnarket -ltd 8, New Bridge-street, Blackfriars.
414;:i-------1:_,
ekt,2,4lhle, costly, and extensive Stock of Silver Plate, to the
die; 'of Twenty Thousand Ounces ; Plated Goods and splen-
gtorWeflery now remaining on the Old Premises of Messrs.
4
to r and Mo'rtiiner 13 New Bond-street, they having removed
1„6, I.,posite. ' '
-tt.O.iiLLEN DAVIS begs to announce that
in th..„he is i 'irected by the Proprietors to SELL by AUCTION,
airt, ii,relnise.s, 13, New Bozid-street, on MONDAY, April 6, and
A'qef eiouTwinrc'Days, at Eleven for Twelve precisely each da all
tho-s're S I.LVER and SILVER- GILT PLATE, to the extent.
1)1.44:4 'Nei ty Thousand Ounces, in dinner and dessert services,
Nil sst,and coffee services, epergnes, plateaux, large and
,Ikter ,t wait ers, candelabra, candlesticks and branches, rose-
"talit.p'"es, i akstands tea-urns, bread and cake baskets, flagons,
a4d forks'''
Va3eS, cups and' mugs, tankards, table and dessert knives
,e,'ety„,,,' sPoor,z ad ladles, liqueur, er,uet, and soy frames, and
.(cles .-ter artie ie that is manufactured ; also, most of the same ar-
ellervl4 the best , Sheffield plated ware. The superb stock of jew-
'leek!: winch is of the best quality, consists of diamond and pearl
‘4 ail and ear-rives, fine gold dress suites, with precious gems
Iskikhdescriptiot 1,-, • elegant sevignes, fine gold neck, guard, and
ess ,enhans br.'c'elets brilliant and other rings and pins, elegant
,lent hobs, %et. L with ' precious stones; gold and silver snuff and
-A", deserves, 'old, and silver watches, chronometers and repeaters of
,t.s,'Ptiongs ; the whole in the most elegant style and taste.
bole of cutlery, plate glass show cases, shop-fittings, &c., the
7ner -,nich, *is the genuine property of Messrs. Storr and Mor-
-k'N't '" now sold by their directions, in consequence of their
r To bteet9ova to their new premises, with a fresh stock.
A\t'ne shil wed six days preceding the
;sandale. Printed catalogues
),nt; -g ea( .h) had on the premises
111k,i'',_?cer and Valuer, 12,:Haymarket ; and 8, New Bridge-street
~.I:'\„,:s,
YAN'—

Austria.

,1 „„'''' eii PATENT for the PR ESERVA-
"itj,,-;; 'ION of TIMBER from DRY ROT is proved in his
ll'Dt .tr,l)ouk -yard at Woolwich by a trial of five years, and
-k,cli.ti- '3' Gov ernment, Sir Robert Smirke, and other eminent
' cti; and Builders; it offers great advantage to
THE SHIP OWNER,
Ily by securing durability to the Timber ; to
ttntl,,,, Tj-IE BRITISI-1 COLONIES,
—.ng their 'Wood equally useful and durable with that fr,ni
Norway ; to
I
ti,,, It. XI, LAND PROPRIETORS,
'll kr ' enabling them to use the cheaper kinds of Timber, their
b 2(111.°T,b., thereby greatly diminishing their outlay.
e'''We "e durability of the Work being so much increased as to
3,11,..'rrir less frequent, whereby great saving must accrue.
"i‘*ee d may be used where more expensive material has
*v"ar
° Ict TO GROUND LANDLORDS,
°lk Building Leases, by the Houses, at the expiration, being
IT ihe. delivered
,iip with the Timbers sound ;
p -"ling the value of ?loßusUesl; and it is, with confidence, htsub-
4ikt4ernitte hat the Patent is invaluable as respects the
E' Ou MANSION. the PARK, the FARM, and the
„, COTTAGE, as well as the
p, 4 144,,W00DEN WALLS OF ENGLAND.
'riet, DEALS, CANVAS, CORDAGE, &c., sent to the
qii:l! Tanks at
n INGHAM-STREET, GROSVENOR BASIN,
~1 . _
PIMLICO;
LIND
SURREY CANAL DOCK, ROTHERIIITHE ;
Aill4
ewr, NO.
4 WHARF, CITY ROAD ,BASIN;
"ally prepared under the direction of Mr. Henry A.
Itistlhe Pro • Hunt, Surveyor.
1,,,1,Thi1i, prietors are willing to grant Licenses to persons of re-
the.'4(). to have Tanks on their own Estates, and to Builders
Ok, r_ Merchants, to enable them to prepare for the Public
ein,enesternts as the Proprietors do. . .
Th 'f the linty be inspected. and. information obtained, at the
l'i e. %Ho . atentees, No. I, Furnival s Inn.
,;fltber for ".„mg,.parties are licensed by the Patentees to prepare
lipio del ILL,
A rade and therublic.
"i%
—er arid Son, Builders, Stangate, near Westminster-.
"i%el
1 and Pet*, Builders, York-road, near Westminster-bridge.
fij,,,11. nip,,. W. T. FRY, Secretary.
OT
in firk"',l3ECK'S LECTURE on PREVENTING DRY
• pri,e fi;'/lER, is published by John Weale, 59, High Hol-

Mayo.

THE QUEEN'S DRAWING-ROOM.

The Queen held a Drawing-room yesterday at St. James's.
Before the Drawing room the fol:owing had audiences of her Ma.
jesty& at the Queen's house:—
Prince Esterhazy, Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary
from the Emperor of Austria.
Prince de Leichtenstein, on a Special mission from the Emperor of

Count Mandesloh, Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipoten-
tiary from the King of Wirtemberg.
To which several audiences they were respectively introduced by
Earl Howe, her Majesty's Lord Chamberlain, and conducted by Sir
Robert Chester, Knt., Master of the Ceremonies.
A guard of honour of the Royal Regiment of Horse Guards, com-
manded by Captain Pigot, were on duty in the large Courtyard of the
Palace. The King's Guards were on duty in the Standard Courtyard.
The Yeomen of the Guard lined the Guard Room and the approaches
to the entree Gallery. The Officers present were the Lieutenant, Sir
Robert Gill; the Ensign, Mr. Button; and the Exons, Sir I'. IL Curteis
and Mr. S. Hancock.
Messrs Dobell and liaise, the State Pages, and the Pages of their
Majesties, wore their State uniforms.
His Majesty's Honourable Corps of Gentlemen at Arms lined the
Presence Chamber. The Officers present were the Lieutenant, Sir S.
Spry; and the Standard Bearer, Sir G. Pocock.
The Duchess of Kent came in State to the Drawing-Room, escorted
by a party of the Royal Horse Guards, and attended by Lady Flora Hast-
ings, Sir John Conroy, and the Hon. Sir George Anson. Her Royal
Highness entered the Palace by the Colour Court, where she was re-
ceived by the King's Guard wth the usual honours. Her Royal High-
ness's dress was composed of articles of British and Irish manufacture.
The Queen took her station in the Throne Room.
Amongst the Ladies and Officers of her Majesty's Household present
Were--

Lady Clinton (in Waiting), the Countesses Brownlow and Mayo,
Ladies of the Bedchamber; Miss Hudson (in Waiting), Miss Mitchell,
Miss Bagot, Miss Eden, and Miss Hope Johnstone, Maids of Honour;
Lady Bedingfield, Lady Gore, Lady Isabella Weymss, and the Hon.
Mrs. Berkeley Paget, Bedchamber Women ; Earl Howe, Lord Chamber-
lab) ; Earl of Denbigh, Master of the Horse; the Hon. William Ashley,
Vice-Chamberlain and 'Treasurer; Sir George Hoste, Colonel Wilson,
Mr. Murray, Mr. Melish, and Mr. Hudson, Gentlemen Ushers; Cap-
taln Pecheq, R.N., M.P., Equerry; and Master de Salis, Page of Honour.
'The King was attended by Lord Tullamore, Lord in Waiting, and
Colonel Armstrong, Groom in Waiting.
The entrée company were first introduced. In the circle the Bishop
of Ohio, United States of America, was presented to her Majesty by Mr.
Vail, Charge d'Affaires of the United States. Mr. Hebeler,th 2 Prussian
Consul-General was presented to her Majesty by Baron Bulow, the
Prussian Minister.
',he Lady Mayoress was presented to the Queen by the Countess of

The Earl of Sheffield was presented, or. his appointment as Lord of the
Bedchamber.

Among the entree Company were, the Austrian and Russian Ambas.
s.ldora, the French Ambassador and the Countess Sebastiani, the Prince
de Leichtenstein, the Sardinian, Neapolitan, Prussian, and Wirtemberg
Ministers; Baroness d'Ompteda, Lady of the Hanoverian Minister; the
Belgic and Netherlands Ministers; the Danish Minister and Baroness de
Biome, the Portuguese, Brazilian, Greek, Spanish, and Saxon Ministers;
Namick Paella, on a special mission from the Sublime Porte; M. de
Flad, on a special mission from the King of Bavaria; the United States
and Swedish Charges d'Affaires, General Viscount Sebastiani, Count
Oberg, Hanoverian Equerry to his Majesty; Mr. Lichtenberg, Privy
Councillor of the Hanoverian Legation ; ?4r. Bourqoeney, First Secre-
tary to the French Embassy; Count Seckendorff, Secretary to the Pros.
sian Legation ; Cbunt Mowaiti, Secretary to the Sardinian Legation ; the
Chevalier dc Ilibeiro, Secretary to the Portuguese Legation; the Secretary
to the Russian Embassy; M. Brenier, Secretary to the French Embassy;
the Secretaries to the Danish and Spanish Legations; M. Paiva, Attache
to the Brazilian Legation ; M. A( hard, Attache to the Belgic Legation ;
the Archbishops of Canterbury and York, the Lord President, the Lord
Privy Seal, the First Lord of the Treasury ; the Secretaries of State for the
Home, Foreign, and Colonial Departments; the President of the Board
of Control, the Chancellor 01 the Duchy of Lancaster, the President of
the Board of Trade, the Chief Secretary for Ireland, the Paymaster of
the Forces, the Lord Steward, the Lord Chamberlain, the Groom of the
Stole, the Master of the Horse, Lord Hill (Gold Stick in Waiting), the
Master-General of the Ordnance, the Vice-Chamberlain, the Treasurer
of the Household, the Comptroller of the Household, the Lord Mayor
and the Lady Mayoress, Mr. Backhouse (Under-Secretary of State), the
Master of the Robes, the Master of the Ceremonies; Sir Wathen Wailer,
Extra Groom in Waiting; Rev. Dr. Blomberg, Deputy Clerk of the
Closet ; Sir Augustus Clifibrd, Gentlemen Usher of the Black Rod;
Lord Radstock, Naval Aid-de-Camp in Waiting; the Eat 1 of Aboyne,
Lord Saltoun, Colonel Sir Charles Thornton, Colonel Sir Adolphus Dal.
rymple, and Colonel I.e Couteur, Aides-de-Camp to the King; Colonels
Bowater and Horace Seymour, Equerries to his Majesty; Masto* Graves,

Page of Honour ; Lieut.-Colonel Sir Frederick Smith, Gentleman Usher
in Waiting.
Amongst the general company were—
Duke of Gordon.
DUCIIESSES—Dowager Sutherland, Northumberland, Sutherland.
Marquis of Hastings.
MeacitioNcesEs—Salisbury, Dowager Salisbury.
EARLS—Rosebery, Ripon, Aboyne, Grey, Carlisle, Sheffield, Nelson
Sandwich, Mayo, Beauchamp, Brownlow, Bathurst, Cawdor, Morley,
Beverley, Macclesfield.
COUNTESSES—Rosebery, Jersey, D Salis, Euston, Sheffield, Surrey,
'Bridgewater. Beaucliamp, Winterton, Cowper.
VISCOUNTS-- Howick, Strathallan, Torrington, Boringdon, Lifford;
Hereford.
ViscournEssES—Beresford, Howick.
Archbishop of Armagh.
BistlOPS—Bath and Elph in.
Loans—King, Colchester, Ernest Bruce, Dalmeny, Stanley, Euston,
Frederick Fitzclarence, Villiers, Redesdale, Burghersh, Skelmersdale,
Henry Cholmondeley, Ward.
LADIES—Gomm, Ernest Bruce, Grey Egerton, Lillias Oswald, Emily
Fitzroy, Louisa Fitzroy, Saltotin, Ward, Seymour, Peel, Stanley, Tees-
dale, Barrow, Elizabeth Anne Smythe, Burghersh, Mary Dundas, Emily
Hardinge, Clifford, Cowley, Henry Cholmondeley, Knatclibuil„ Eger-
ton, Aldis, Dalrymple, Elizabeth Howard, Louisa Tumour, St. John,
Lucy Vaughan, Rolle, Hamlyn Williams, E. Palk, Dowager Arundell,
Charlotte Tumour, Anne Beresford.
HONOURABLES—Mrs. Drummond, Mr. Drummond, Heys Tumour
Caroline Berestord; Miss Wellesley, Miss St. John, Mrs. G. Pechell,
James Hewitt, Miss Mitford, Miss Fraser, Francis Maude, Mrs. Hare,
Lieut.-General Ramsay, Captain Trefusis, R.N., Lieut.-Colonel Grey,
Captain Grey, R.N.
Stes—Wathen Waller, Joseph Whatley, George Hamilton, Philip
Grey Egerton, George Farrant, Thomas Cochrane, Charles Aldis, John
Barrow, George Murray, George Staunton, Edmund Hayes.
REv. Doc-rolls—Cole, Blair.
Doctor Francis Hawkins.
Reverend T. M. Wetherell
Mcssas.—Robert B. Kay, John Crossley, Hope, M.P., Benjamin O.
veira, Salame, Wakefield, Montague Gore, Bracebridge, H. Story, R.
Palmer, Spell's, M.P., Eaton, Dunlop, E. Gage, J. J. Tatman, W. Read,
N. P. Willis, Dundas, M.P., Chichester, M.P., Alexander, B. Tomains,
Dewey, F. Calvert, Oswald, L. Robinson, Harvey, Monck, W. Lonsdale,
I'. Burrell.
MISTRESSES—T. M. Wetherell, Pringle Taylor, Hamilton Story, Ar.
chibald Campbell, Robert Ellice, Skinner, Drummond, Bracebridge,
Gz•ulburn, Marlay, Smith.
Pardoe, Smyth, Laura Smyth, Leslie, Charlotte
Leslie, Emma Leslie, Shepherd, Barrow, Ellen Percy, Stewart, Coch
rane, Nepean.

ADMIRALS--Sir E. King, Sir W. Hcr ham, Sir T. Dundas, Honyrnan,
CAPTAINS—Sir Arthur Farquhar, Sotheby, J. Murray, E. Lloyd,
Grace, Fremantle.

CAPTAINS, H. C. S.---P. Cameron, J. Hine, E. Foord.
Camara:mils—Henry Dundas Trotter, Francis Harding, Sparshott,
P. Wynne, W. Warren, H. Nurse, Kirby, W. J. Cole, Furber.
LIEUTENANTS—A. P. Le Neve, C. H. Jay, Hotham, 'l'. Leigh.
GENERALS-Sir Thomas Reynell, Sir Charles Egerton, Sir Jasper
Nicholls, Viscount Beresford, Sir H. Hardin
,;e, Sir E. Paget, Sir J.
Fraser, A. Campbell, Sir P. Carroll, Ellice, Blunt, Bruce, Evatt, Sir
S. Dickens, Sir G. Walker, Viscount Forbes, Sir W. Anson, Sir W.
Inglis.

COLONELS-Sir W. Gomm, W. Gordon, Sir J. Eustace, Gold, Grey,
Lawtie, Shawe, Findlay, Sir J. O'Halloran, C. Doyle, Conolly, Mair,
Thomas, Sir R. Armstrong, Love, Dorville, Broke, Teesdale, Stisted,
Todd, Sir B. Camac, Sir-M. Creagh, Whinyates.
MAJORS-P. Taylor, B. Edwards, H. Cadogan, Trevelyan, R. Thew.
CAPTAINS-Sir T. Hare, G. Fraser, Whittaker, Anson, 0. Blach-
ford, Sir C. Coke, Wynne, T. Seymour.
LIEUTENANTS-H. Farrant, North, Teesdale, M. Archdall, Manby,
Yerbury, Blackburn, Morton.
Cot:um—Wallace, Barrow, Booth, R. Montgomery, Greene.
ENSIGNS—W. Kelly, R. Boyd, A. N. Sherson, G. Campbell, A. W.
Campbell.
The following were presented to her Majesty :
Lady K Bruce, on her marriage, by Viscountess Beresford,
Lady Emily Fitzroy, by the Countess of Euston.
Lady Louisa Fitzroy, by the Countess of Euston.
The Bishop of Bath and Wells presented to the Queen " The La..
bourers' Friend, or the allotting of small portions of Land to the
Poor."
Miss Pardoe, by Mrs. Pringle Taylor.
Miss Ellen Percy, by the Duchess of Northumberland.
Rev. T. M. Wetherell, by the Right Hoe. the Lord Mayor.
Mrs. T. M. Wetherell, by her mother, the Lady Mayoress.
Miss Leslie, by the Marchioness of ()monde.
Miss Emma Leslie, by the Marchioness of Ormonde.
Miss Charlotte Leslie, by the Marchioness of Ormonde.
Lady Ward, on coming to the title, by the Countess Beauchamp.
Mr. Wakefield, on being appointed a King's Counsel, by the Lord
Chancellor.
Miss Smyth and Miss Leonora Smyth, by their mother, Lady Elizabeth
Anne Smyth.
Hon. Miss Wellesley, by Lady Cowley.
.Mrs. Bracebridge, by the Countess of Derby.
Hon. C. Beresford, by Viscountess Beresford.
Hon. Mrs. Drummond (Strathallan,) on her marriage.
Hon. Mr. Drummond, on his Marriage.
Mrs. Skinner, by the Dowager Lady Arundel.
Miss Ellice, by Mrs. Robert Ellice.
Hon. Miss St. John, by Lady St. John.
Mrs. Marlay, by the Countess de Salis.
Miss Cochrane, by the Marchioness of Ormonde.
Mrs. A. Campbell, on going to Jersey.
Lady Cowley, on going to Paris.
Lady Knatchbull, by Lady Peel.
Right Hon. and Lady St. John, by Lady Rolle.
Lady Barrow, on recovering from a long illness.
Lady Teesdale, by the Countess of Winterton.
Miss Nepe4n, by the Countess Cowper.
Mr. J. Copling, by the Duke of Gordon.
Mr. Salame, by the Duke of Wellington.
Mr. James John Talman, by Lord Viscount Hereford.
Mr. Bracebridge, by Earl Howe.
Lieut.-Gen. Sir G. Walker, on being created a Baronet.
Mr. L. Robinson, by Sir W. Fremantle.
Colonel Sir J. O'Halloran, by Sir E. Paget.
Mr. Benjamin Tomkins, by Viscount Hereford.
Lieut.-Gen. Sir W. Anson, by Lord Roseberry.
Mr. Harvey, by Colonel Lygon.
Mr. Alexander, by Colonel Lygon.
Captain G. Fraser, by Sir G. Murray.
Lieut. Hotham, R. N., by Sir W. Hotham.
Lieut.. Colonel C. Doyle, by the Earl of Alordeen.
Mr. N. P. Willis, by Sir G. Staunton.
Major B. Edwards, by Sir H. Taylor.
Sir G. Farrant, by Sir R. Peel.
Major-General A. Campbell, by Lord Hill.
Hon. Captain Grey, by Earl Grey.
Ensign W. Kelly, by Lord Forbes.
Lieut.. Colonel Whinyates, by Sir G. Murray.
Captain T. Seymour, by General Calender.
Captain Whittaker, by Sir E. Paget.
Ensign Campbell, by Lord F. Somerset.
Captain Anson, by Sir G. Anson.
Cornet 11.. Montgomery, by Colonel Stistcd.
Lieut. H. Farrant, by Sir R. Jackson.
Sir J. Barrow, by Earl de Grey.
Ensign A. Sherson, by Mr. W. Ashley.

EDITORIAL APOLOGIES.—Apologies for " lack
of editorial" are sometimes of the most conclusive character,
and such as ought, in all conscience, to satisfy the most queru-
lous of their readers, and must do so, unless their hearts are
harder than the " nether millstone," or a Berkhemstcad cheese.
One of our editorial friends in the country excuses the paucity
of his weekly lucubrations, by saying that absence, severe
sickness, and " other unavoidable business, " had rendered it
impossible to write much for his paper. Quite a sufficient
apology, as it strikes. This business of severe sickness is not
to be left unatted to—especially when a man is " absent"—
American Paper.

HORSE V. MAN.—Captain Sutton, nephew to the
Earl of Canterbury, the late Speaker, of the 7th Hussars, now
stationed in York Barracks, undertook for a wager, to run
one hundred yards against a bay mare, the course to be fifty
yards out, to turn round a post, and return to the start. At
the start the Captain took the lead, though not much a head,
and on reaching the turn the mare was as soon there as him-
self ; but the great speed at which he reached the post, made
him turn it wide, and consequently to disadvantage ; the mare
made the turn very prettily, and on going. about thirty yards
further, was close upon her antagoaist. Here the Captain
had the misfortune to sustain a very unpleasant fall, in conse-
quence of getting his foot entangled in a hole; the mare, of
course, then w ent in by herself an easy victor ; and it appeared
a very general impression, that despite of the gallant Captain's
fall, under any circumstances, the mare would have proved the
winner. She is a neat little half. bred animal, and was appa-
rently trained so tractable and handy, that she might have been
turned round a sixpence without difficulty.— York Herald.
HALF PAY.—I ani cooped up with a most insuffi-
cient stipend, a most iniquitous income—what's to be said ? My
half-pay does not suffice to pay anything at all; I mean that a
man on half-pay should only be expected to pay half ; what do
you say to that ; I'll tell you, Sir, an expedient of mine—
wonderful sagacity—the most perfect presence of mind per-
haps ever exhibited. I had long been obtruded upon by duns;
a kind of periodical pestilence with which I am afflicted—until,
at length, the vehemence of the disorder settled itself down
into a confirmed brace of bailiffs, who kept watch opposite my
house all day long. What do I do, think you ? The street
door of my neighbour is a bright yellow—.l steal out in the
night and paint it all over a dark green, the colour of my own.
What is the use of. that ? you ask ; this, Sir, this. The next
morning comes the bailiff—l'faith, Sir, keeps a sharp eye on
my neighbours' door, and actually lays his electric paw upon
the owner—a bank-clerk proceeding into the city; and in
spite of shrieks and asseverations, bears him away from his
domestic circle, of which hr was so brilliant a segment, while
I march off to my agent, receive my pay, and start into the
country without beat of drum.—Snuff Box.
WINDOW TAX.--A meeting of the inhabitant
householders of the parish of St. Martin-in-the-Fields took
place yesterday at the Vestry Room, for the purpose of peti-
tioning the House of Commons for the repeal of the window
tax. Mr. Churchwarden Simpson in the Chair. Mr. Soffe
briefly stated the object of the meeting, and entered at consi-
derable length into the oppressive and unequal manner in which
this tax bore upon the middling and industrious classes of his
Majesty's subjects residing in narrow streets, and other con-
fined places throughout the metropolis. Houses in such
situations, at a rental of 40/. a year, paid a window tax equal
to modern built houses in the first situations at a rental of 1501.
and 2001. per annum. Several gentlemen confirmed the above
statements. A petition to Parliament was agreed to by a
crowded vestry, and that their respected Member, Colonel i
Evans, be requested to present the same.

The Duke of SUTHERLAND presented a petition from
the County of Sutherland in favour of the Established Church
in Scotland, and for increasing Church accommodation. Si-
milar petitions were presented by the Duke of Gordon from
Keith in Banffshire, from Inverary, Kelso, and Aberdeen ; and
by the Marquis of Bute from the Counties of Bute and Argyle.
The Earl of RIPON moved that the third reading of the
Abolition of Oaths Bill be postponed until Monday next,
Lord PLUNK ET had only heard of the observations of
the Bishop of Exeter through the channel of newspapers, from
the report of which it appeared that he (the Bishop of Exeter)
had alluded to some observations made by him some years ago,
expressing an opinion that Church property was not applicable
to any but ecclesiastical purposes. He, therefore, thought him-
' self called upon to enter into some explanation on the subject.
—(" No.") That Rev. Prelate described him as an enemy
to any other appropriation of Church property than to purely
ecclesiastical purposes, and he (the Bishop of Exeter) had
done him the honour of saying he regretted his absence, that
he might have been enabled to repeat that opinion. Consi-
dering that he did not fight under the same banners as the
Rev. Prelate, he had no right to expect the honour of being
thus alluded to, and especially by one so capable as the Rev.
Prelate was of maintaining his own opinions. Such an honour
was neither expected, nor did he think that it was altogether
warranted by the circumstances of the case.—( Hear, hear.)
If the Right Rev. Prelate assured him that was not the case,
he should be perfectly satisfied. He felt satisfied that the
Right Rev. Prelate had not made the statement ironically, or
as a sarcasm, and it was only for him to undeceive the Right
Rev. Prelate as to the opinions which he had entertained. Ile
had no intention of going into a discussion on the subject either
in the nature of Church Property, or the applicability of it to any
purposes whatever, but he wished merely to state the opinions
which he entertained. He begged leave to state distinctly,
that in the first place, with respect to the Church of Ireland,
that the Church of Ireland, properly so called, and as at pre-
sent maintained, was the established religion of the land. He
considered the Church of Ireland was consolidated with the
Church of England. He was decidedly of opinion that an
Established Church was necessary, and it being necessary, the
Protestant Church was the Established Church of England
and Ireland. That was his sincere opinion. Then with re-
spect to the Temporalities of the Church, the question of the
Church itself, and its temporalities, were quite distinct. If
any one supposed that an expression had ever fallen from him that
the property of the Church was to be considered private pro-
perty, he begged to say, that was a most erroneous supposition.
He considered Church property corporate property ; but
corporate property of the most sacred kind. He held the
rights of every member of the Church ought to be pro-
tected, and that an ample provision should be made for the
clergy he was ready to admit, but he had not the least hesi-
tation in saying that if, after all the purposes of the Church
had been answered, there should remain a surplus, that sur-
plus should be applied to purposes connected with the educa-
tion of Ireland.--( Hear, hear.) Whenever the question
should come properly before the House, he would be quite
ready to enter into the rounds on which he entertained those
opinions. He only availed himself of that opportunity for the
purpose of showing that he was consistent in his opinions.
The Bishop of EXETER wished, in the first place, to
address himself to one or two observations which had
fallen from the Noble and Learned Lord, which
satisfied him that be had greatly misapprehended
the conversation that took place a few nights ago. There was
not one word then said relative to appropriation of any surplus of
ecclesiastical property. The Noble Marquis, in presenting the
petition, spoke of Church property generally, without reference
to any surplus whatever, but spoke generally on Church
property being applicable to such purposes as the State
in its wisdom might think fit.—( Hear, hear, hear.) He
(the Bishop of Exeter) certainly, on that occasion, expressed
his regret that the Noble and Learned Lord had left
the House before the Noble Marquis had presented
the petition ; and he had stated that if the Noble and
Learned Lord had been present, he would, in language much
more powerful than he could, repel an opinion which was at
direct variance with that which the Noble and Learned
Lord had expressed on a former occasion. He believed he
might venture to appeal to the recollection of any Noble Lord
then present whether that was not the statemen he had made.
He was not sure whether the statement in the newspapers con-
tained any expression that he made an allusion to a debate that
occurred in another place. As to the irregularity with which
he was charged in alluding to that debate, he could not see
why the Noble and Learned Lord (Plunkett) should complain.
Lord PLUNKET--What ho complained of was, that on
a motion made by a Noble Lord, allusion had been made to
him by the Right Reverend Prelate- in his absence.
The Bishop of EXETER, in reply, considered that it was
perfectly regular for him to refer to what had been said in
Parliament in 1824 by the Noble Lord, or by any other person.
But an injustice had been done to him—it was the Noble
Marquis (Westminster) who used the language complained of.
He (the Bishop of Exeter) was always proud to quote the
Noble Lord's words, whether delivered in 1824, or at any other
period ; and when he quoted that opinion, the Noble Marquis
remarked, that if the Noble Lord had entertained such an
opinion in 1824, he must have since changed his opinion, and
had partaken of the spirit of the age.
The Marquis of WESTMINSTER explained.
The Bishop of EXETER then proceeded to defend him-
self from the charge of irregularity made against him by the
Noble and Learned Lord, and contended that he was at perfect
liberty to quote the opinion of any Noble Lord on any
occasion, when he might think proper to do so.—( Hear.)
He had quoted his expressions from Hansard's report, from
memory, and on referring to it he was surprised that his re
collection had served him so well. Since then he had also re-
ferred to the " Mirror of Parliament," and found that the
two accounts agreed almost to a letter, so much so that he
should almost have conceived the same reporter to have been
employed. The Right Rev. Prelate then quoted the words
made use of by the Noble and Learned Lord, in 1824, in
which he had stated that he did not differ from any opinion
he had entertained—..he still held the property of the Church
to be a sacred deposit.— (Hear! hear, hear.) Nothing could
be more idle than to talk whether the property was or
was not under the controul of Parliament, as in the present
case. The property of the Church of Ireland was to be
applied strictly and impartially to purposes purely ecclesias-
tical. The Noble and Learned Lord, however, admitted that
the property of the Church might be applied to the purposes
of general education. Well, then, that being so, the pur-
poses for which he (the Bishop of Exeter) had thought proper
to apply this part of the Noble and Learned Lord's expression
was one of similar extent, that of general education in Ireland.
He begged their Lordships to recollect what that system of
education was, namely that it should not be conducted on the
principles laid down by the Established Church. This was
in direct contradiction to the purport and construction of the
Noble and Learned Lord's argument, than whom there
was not a more eloquent and ardent supporter of the
system of education in 'lreland, as that expressly implied by
the terms strictly ecclesiastical, abiding and continuing in the
system as professed by the Church of England.--( Hear. )
It was necessary that they should understand the meaning of
words used in that House ; and when the Noble and Learned
Lord proposed general education as a purpose to which
Church property might be applied, he (the Right Rev. Pre-
late) would shelter himself under the apparent meaning of the
words of the Noble and Learned Lord a year and a half ago.
He did not suspect the Noble and Learned Lord's difference of
opinion, but he lamented to hear the Noble and Learned Lord
disavow those words which had given such satisfaction to the
Protestant population of the empire, and which had been so
strong and checiing to their heart in the time of their dis-
tress.—( Hear, hear.)
Lord BROUGHAM thought that the irregularity was on
the part of the Right Rev. Prelate, in referring to a speech of
his Noble and Learned Friend, in his absence, in answer to a
statement made by a Noble Marquis ( Westminster), on the
presentation of a petition. —( Oh, oh," from the Duke of Cum-
berland.) The Illusti ions Duke cried "oh "
The Duke of CUM BERL A ND. —The Right Rev. Pre-
late was not aware that the Noble and Learned Lord was
absent when he referred to him.
Lord BR OUG HAM. —Why, the Right Rev. Prelate be-
gan by regretting: hat the Noble and Learned Lord had left
the House.—( A laugh.) Save me from my friends whether
they are illustrious or otherwise. —( Renewed laughter.) A
friend is a thousand times worse than a feeble enemy.—
The great hopes he had been obliged to form of the
present Government were completely blown away. The
cup which he had been swilling, as it were—(great laugh-
ter)—was dashed from his hand when he saw that
a charge was made upon his Noble and Learned Friend,
because it was now alleged that he had got a new light—
that he had changed, and that lie now held more liberal
opinions than he did in the year 1824.—(Cries of 1833.)
Well, he would takq it as 1833 ; and 112 might compare the
opinions held now by Hon. Gentlemen and Noble Lords form-
ing the present Administration in 1833, with those which
they held at the present moment; were they not of a more
liberal character now than in those days ? He also had been
misrepresented—he would say misunderstood—by sonic
Hon. Gentlemen in another House, but if he was charged
with, now holding opinions of a mere liberal character than be
had formerly done, he would not now defend himself; how-
ever, if Hon. Gentlemen in another place had any charge to
make against him, either for opinions he had exprs ssed, or
for acts done, he was quite ready to appear when called upon,
and avail himself of the ancient practice of defending himself—
( Loud laughter, and cries of " At the bar")—within the bar,
lie was perfectly ready, at any time when called upon, to ap-
pear there, and having heard the charges against him, make
sucli a defence as was in his power.--( Laughter.) That
was the most ancient practice, and he for one was per-
fectly willing to appear before his old friends and ancient
political enemies in such a way. He had a petition put into
his hands in order that he should either present it to that
House or put it into the hands of a member of the other Vouso
—.it was from the people called " Friends" 'in Ireland, 'evil-
plaining of the present system of tithes, as being conn eeted

Mr. G. F. YOUNG presented a petition from Beauharnois,
in the district of Lower Canada, praying for relief. They
(the British inhabitants) complain of being unjustly excluded
from their rights by the French inhabitants, who are the majo-
rity in that country. A great difference existed between the
French and English colonists, and whoever considered for a
moment the 92 resolutions which passed the House of Assem-
bly, and which this petition referred to, could not but see
that the consequences of this disunion, unless soon put
an end to, must be most ruinous to the interests of that
province ? The petitioners entirely dissented from the resolu-
tion proposed by the Hon. Member for Middlesex, which they
considered of the most outrageous character, and they there-
fore humbly implored the House not to be misled by those
resolutions.

Mr. HUME did not gather from the statements of the
Hon. Member what the real object of the petition was. No
one could deny that persons residing in Canada had grounds
of complaint, but the manner in which the Hon. Member had
characterised the majority of the Assembly was not likely to
allay irritation.
Mr. E. ELLICE thought the petition ill-timed, as in his
opinion the petitioners ought to be satisfied with the course
that had been adopted of issuing a Commission.
Mr. ROEBUCK thought that while the whole conduct of
the Colonial Administration was confined to a Clerk in the
Colonial Office, and while that clerk was Mr. Hay, no good
could be expected to the Canadas.
Mr. ROBINSON rose to order. It was not competent for
any Hon. Gentleman to go into the whole of the question
relating to the Canadas upon the presentation of a petition.
If the Hon. and Learned Gentleman went on, others would
be compelled to answer him.—(Hear, hear.)
Sir E. KNATCHBULL—WiII the Hon. Gentleman
(Mr. Roebuck) pardon me for—
Mr. ROEBUCK--I can hardly pardon you, Sir.—( Cheers
from the Opposition.) The evil of interrupting the business
of the House was not attributable to him, but if Hon. Mem-
bers brought forward petitions with half an hour's speech,
other Hon. Gentlemen had a right to reply.—(Hear, hear.)
The Hon. Member (Mr. Young) had accused the House of
Assembly of something verging upon tyranny. •
Mr. YOUNG—I deny having used that language.
Mr. ROEBUCK—The Hon. Member used language very
like it. The House of Assembly had laid their complaints
in the regular way before this House, and did not subject them-
selves to the accusations that had been made against them.
Mr. W. GLADSTONE thought the Hon. Gentleman
(Mr. R.) was justified in answering the statements that had
been made, but he was not justified in professing a
knowledge of what passed in the interior of the Government
offices of this country.—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. and Learned

,
Gentleman had brought a charge against a gentleman (Mr.
Hay) who had no opportunity of answering it ; and for that
reason alone the Hon. and Learned Gentleman ought to have
abstained from making the charge.
The petition was then laid on the table.
SPIRIT DUTIES.

Mr. GROTE presented a petition from 523 licensed vic-
tuallers of the Metropolis, against the increased Spirit Duties.
An HON. MEMBER presenfet: netitions from places in Elgin
and Forfar, praying for increased accommodation for members,
of the Scotch Church.
Mr. PRINGLE presented a petition troth. a parish in Scot-
and, to the same effect. . ..

Mr. CORBETT trusted that no attention would ;;;. paid
to the prayer of the petition. The people of Scotland shoth..
provide accommodation for themselves, as well as the Dis-
senters of England.
Mr. DENNISON presented a petition from the licenced
victuallers of a place, the name of which we did not hear,
against the increased Spirit Duties. Also, a petition from Can-
terbury, praying for a remission of the sentence passed on the
Dorchester Unionists.
TURNPIKES—IRELAND.

An Horr. MEMBER gave notice, that on the 28th of May, he
should move for leave to bring in a Bill for the regulation of
the Turnpike Trusts in Ireland.
SCOTTISH CHURCH.

Mr. A. MURRAY presented a petition from Leith, pray-
ing for more Church accommodation for the people of Scot-
land. He said the people of that country who dissented from
the principles of the Church had done much with their own
money in the way of instruction, and he, as a churchman,
could not think that he would be justified in putting his hand
into their pockets for the purpose of increasing the establish-
ment.—(Cheers.)_

Colonel SIBTHOR P presented petitions from the city of
Lincoln, Peterboro', and several other places, against the Bill
for regulating Ecclesiastical Courts. He wished it to be
known that he gave up his motion for a Select Committee on
the subject, merely on account of the pressure of public bu-
siness ; also a petition from an inhabitant of Plymouth, praying
that he might be allowed to lay before the proper authorities a
new method of making stamps on dies, which in his opinion
would greatly reduce the expense the country was at present
put to.

Mr. BA IN S presented a petition from the working people
of a place in Yerkshire, against the Factory Regulation Bill
of 1833.

Sir E. KNATCHBULL presented a petition from the
icensed victuallers of Sittingbourne, Kent, for a reduction of
lie license duty.
Several other petitions to the same effect wer• presented.
ADJOURNED DEBATE.

The order of the day having been read,
Sir JOHN C A MPB EL L said lie should adhere to the
compact entered into last night, that each Hon. Member
should, in the remarks which be thought fit to address to the
House, be as brief as possible, so that the important debate
in which they were engaged would that evening be brought to
a close, and he should altogether forego his right to address
the House on a matter which had already undergone so copious
a discussion, were it not that he felt it just that some Mem-
bers from that part of the United Kingdom with which he was
connected should have an opportunity of expressing their
opinions. As yet no representative of Scotland had addressed
the House, and on so vital a question it was proper
that the Members from all parts of the United Kingdom
should take part in the debate, and freely and boldly ex-
press their opinions. They were aware that he ( Sir John
Campbell) represented a body of constituents who yielded to
none in independence, in intelligence, and in liberality, and he
believed in the sentiments which he was about to express,
the great majority of his constituents, as well as his country-
men generally, concurred. The resolution of the Member for
Devonshire had his fullest approbatioar and be thonght that
upon its success mainly depended the future destinies of the
empire. He should begin by expressing an opinion which
might be at variance with those of Han. Gentlemen on the
Opposition side of the House, namely, that he was in favour of
an union between Church and State. He though it would be dan-
gerous to trust to the voluntary principle ; lie thought it would
be improper to make religion like a marketable commodity, that
the supply should only equal the demand. He thought it a great
advantage to have a State religion, and he felt an establishment
and voluntary principle could not work harmoniously together.
That Establishment prevented the danger of fanaticism, and
the voluntary principle prevented the danger of apathy and in-
difference. With those sentiments, he respectfully and re-
verently approved of the Established Church in England,
Scotland, and with certain reductions even in Ireland. In
England the Established Church accorded with the reli-
gious sentiments of the great majority of the people, its
tendency was certairl•; most beneficial, and that being
to, he wished it to:1.)e untouched—he wished its revenues to

be untouched—but he. thought the distribution of those re-
venues might be greatly improved.— (Hear, hear.) Many
abuses ought to be reformed—pluralities ought to be abo-
lished—(Hear)—residence enforced ; with those amendments
he wished all the great objects of the establishment to be re-
garded; he wished the Church of England to remain respected
and revered ; he thought its revenues were not excessive,
and he wished them to remain untouched.--( Hear, hear. )
When he looked to the Established . Church in hip
own country, he must say that he entertained
srntiments of pride and exultation, for he believed that no

establishment ever so effectually answered the purpose for
which it was intended it harmonized with the re-
ligious sentiments and feelings of the great majority
of the community, and there were few abuses to which it was
liable; its revenues were not excessive, and he wished them
to remain untouched in that country. He would not at
the present moment enter into the subject which the
Hon. Member for Oldham had spoken of, namely the subject:
of endowment ; but he would say, that in some instances ire•
thought an extension of endowments might. be .useful. In
Montrose, and also .in Edinburgh, they had no funds
from the State for the support of the Establishment.
There the stipends of the Clergy were paid by assessments on;
the inhabitants, whether they were Presbyterians, Roman
Catholics, Episcopalians, or Dissenters ; that was a great
grievance, and the only grievance which the Church
of Scotland could have imputed--( Hear, hear,
to it. In the two places to which he had referred, he thought
it was deserving of consideration, whether the deficieney
ought not to be supplied by the State.--( Hear.) With res-
pect to Ireland, if it was entirely res integre'', he should have
hesitated long before he had thought it right to
have a Protestant Church in that country, consider-
ing that the remarkably great body of the people of that
country were of a different religion ; but as there was an esta-
blishment there, he would let it remain. In his opinion it ought
to b 3 so improved as fully to meet the wants of all parties-
Its endowments were excessive, and for the sake of religion
and civil order they ought to be reduced, and the funds ap-
plied to more beneficial purposes.—( Hear, hear.) Many
contradictory statements of the revenues of the Irish
Church bad been made, but he paid little at-
tention to them, whether they came from one side of
the House or the other; he looked at the bad effect. The
Church Establishment in Ireland was as great as it nee in
the times of Popery, when it was a Popish Church, and the
whole mass of the population of that Church. The law of
tithes there was the same as in England, and the
establishment of Ireland was on a scale amply sufficient for
the whole mass of the population, if they were of the Protes-
tant religion. What was the amount of the Protestant popu-
lation of Ireland ? It was acknowledged that it was not more
than a tenth of the whole, and therefore the statements from
the Right Hon. Secretary for Ireland, the Noble Member for
Lancashire, and other Members on the opposite side were
of no avail. It was said, indeed, that the revenue of any cler-
gyman in Ireland -did not exceed 400/. or 500/., but he did
not confine
.himself to the revenue of the parochial
clergy—he looked at the gross amount which the Irish
Church received from the State, which was allowed to be not
less than one million--and for what ? For not more than one-
tenth part of the whole population I The provision for that
community was ten times as great as it was in England or
Scotland ; and therefore he was justified in saying that it was
excessive.--( Hear, hear.) What were the melancholy
consequences of this state of things to pure religion and civil
society ? They were told that churches were multiplied, but
he was sorry to say that congregations had decreased. What
benefit then was the increase of churches ?—(Hear, hear. )
It was only a grievance to one party, and an insult
to those who were compelled to maintain them—( Hear. )
The Right Hon. Member for the University of Oxford had
boasted of the increased number of Churches in Ireland within
the last 20 years, but he had not denied that a proportionate
decrease had taken place in the Protestant congregations.
With respect to the increase of Churches, he would state one
fact—about a year and a half ago, he (Sir J. Campbell) had
visited Ireland, that beautiful but ill-fated country, and instances
were pointed out in which churches had been erected where there
was no Protestant congregation, but merely for the sake of
giving a job to the builder and carpenter ; and so great a job
was it, that it had been proved on the most satisfactory
evidence that the Church had - fallen two or three
times, and that addditional rates had been imposed
upon the parish, for the purpose of rebuilding the Church.
When he found that such was the effect of the system upon
religion, he must look to its effect upon civil society. Could
there be any doubt that the enforcement of the payment of
tithes was the cause• of much of the insubordination and
outrage which had so long characterised the country ?
(cries of " Hear, hear.") They were compelled to pay
tithes to a Church for which they had no occasion, and when
they combined to resist the payment of those tithes, and thereby
disobey the law, they had been accused of insubordination and
disloyalty, and it had been the fruitful source of many of the
crimes and enormities that had disgraced that country. This was
what might have reasonably been expected from the attempt
to force upon that people a religion that the people
did not believe in—( Hear)—and it only increased the hatred
and disgust with which they regarded an establishment
of that sort. Various allusions had been made to his (Sir .
J. Campbell's) native country, and it was impossible with re-
gard to these portions of the history of Scotland, that
these allusions could be too frequent. The Noble Lord
the Member for Lancashire had stated, and stated truly, that
in the beginning of the seventeenth century there was very little
animosity between the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians ; but
an attempt had been made by the Stuarts to thrust prelacy
upon the people of Scotland. What was the consequence ?
Why that Prelacy became odious to the people of that
country. Need he remind the House of the language of
the Marquis of Argyle in the last moments of that
great and lamented man ? He had not been exempted from the
common prejudices which tyranny had given rise to : in his
last moments, he stated that he hated Popery, prelacy, and all
superstitions whatsoever. Need he remind the House of
the assassination of Archbishop Sharpe? Such was
the state of things at that period that the assassi-
nation of Archbishop Sharpe was apm'eved of by
the great majority of the people of Scotland.—(Hear.)
That ought to absolve the Irish from some of the deeds of vio-
lence which now unfortunately marked that country. Nothing
could exceed in atrocity the murder cf Archbishop Sharpe,
and yet that murder was justified in Scotland. Such had been
the effect of attempting to force prelacy on the people of Scot-
land. Things went on from bad to worse, and were at the end of
the 17th century, even worse than they had been a century
before. He need not alsoathade dy
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ing rnmoo.n;t
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andthei
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endeavour to assimilate the religious state of Ireland to that of
',-.:otland? It ought to be so altered as to be proper and suffi-
cient fen- those of the Episcopalian faith in Ireland. But the
number o
bishops in that country was still excessive, as were
in comparison with those now proposed to
ba
es otheir
given ttprelates. From that source there would
:i
nticloeb:Eensg, s
be a large surplus left for the general benefit of the commu-
nity. They had been told that such property was in-
alienable, however small migLt be the number of persons who
profess that religion, and that it never could be diverted for any
nafomnrylawa—ny senceaiutherwshtaatteuvteerl. Baw,untot;btehreeltaysays nofo warrant
for fpiltuourrpcthhoisasei or
doctrine had been advocated in times of Paganism, but
what abominations had it not occasioned? It had afterwards been
resorted to by Catholics (and here he assured Hon. Gentlemen of
that persuasion that he intended nothing offensive to them)
Catholics had laid down and encouraged that doctrine. At
the time of the Reformation, however, this doctrine had entirely
been put an end to, and such property as the House well
knew was freely applied to other purposes.e--( Hear, hear.)
CoUld it be expected that the doctrines of the Pagan religion
—that the docrines. of Popery, which were exploded in the
sixteenth century, should be revived in the nineteenth---and
should form the basis of Legislative enactment? He held
that they could not ; and this opinion he had formed
after great deliberation. He thought that the property
of the Church shoUld not be touched while it could
be employed beneficiali; for the Church itself. But still
he held that it was the prOperty of the State originally, and as
the State conferred it, so cou;el the State take it away when
the public safety demanded its interference.—( Hear, hear.)
He knew no distinction between a Clergyman and any
other functionvy of the State. lie believed that those who
ministered of the altar should live by the altar. So said the
Scriptures. The Judges, the Ministers of State, and those
who fought the battles of the country, were alike upon ono
footing ; there was .no distinction between the one arid the
other; they were all- supported by the State, and when the
amount of their income or their numbers exceeded what
was required, the State which regulated :hem in the
first instance had a right to reduce them when it was deemed
necessary to do so. He apprehended that what he stated mould.
be supported by the history of tithes. All who know the his. ore-
of tithes must be aware that they were first imposed in the
nature of a property tat. The Christian religion was long
established before tithes were known —at a time when
there was hardly any personal property.—( Hear.) Rents were
then paid in kind. There was little money in use, and the
tithes were originally made in the shape of a property tax,
which amounted to the value of a tenth part of the produce
of the soil. There was a fourfold division--one part
to the Bishop—one to the incumbent--one for the fabric of
the Church, _and the fourth for the poOr.—( Cheers.) So that
tithes originally were conferred on the clergy by the State,
and were not voluntarily undertaken by the people. Whether
the Church was endowed by landed possessions or by
pecuniary means was immaterial, if by pecuniary funafe
they could be cut down, and if by landed possesiionst
they could be taken away. Within a few years the
salary of the Chief Justice of England had been dimi-
nished from ten to eight thousand pounds. The Chancellor
of Ireland had also his salary reduced from ten to eight thou-
sand a-year, and he would like to know.why the Clergy could.
not be dealt with as any other public functionaries of the land.
If half the property of the country has belonged to the Church,
and there was a crying evil that it corrupted the clergy, and
caused the laity to be dissatisfied with the Church, could it be
said that under such circumstances Parliament could not inter-
fere ? Before the Reformation in the Church of Scotland it
was calculated that one-third of the whole property of the
country belonged to the Church. The Legislature of Scot-
land dealt wisely : they allotted a sufficient portions
for the support of the minister's, and the rest they applied.
to other purposes. He would say the sanee example might bre
made in every Christian state.--( Hear, hear.) At present
England, Scotland, and Ireland, was one great united empire,
and he hoped would remain so for many ages to come ; but
wie-uld it be said the predominant religion of the land was to
be the religion of the majo-ity who formed the Legislature of
' the United Kin ;Toni ? Ha knew it was contrary to what the
benefit of thin country required. What was there in the articles
of Union thet prohibited the proper and adequate reduction
of the entablisliment to the I.vants of the people? He apprehended
that all the articles of the treaty of Union were to be inter-
preted, enforced and modified, according to what the public
good might require, and of this they had a most distinguished
instance during the time the Right Hon. Baronet was at the
head of the Home Department.. By the Articles of the Union
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of Scotland it was provided that there should be a s ,
et)U of
Admiralty. By the sanction, of the Right liemoine
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that Court off Admiralty, but finding it could not -
be reformed, it was entirely abolished.—.( Hear, hear, hear.)
A.t a subsequent time the Court of Exchequer, which was re-
cognised by the Act of Union, if not abolished, was so much
modified that there were no longer separate judges, and
this was also for the benefit of the Scottish nation--( Hear,)—
because, Sir (addressing the chair), instead of presiding in
a mock court, we have the bencf.t of your presiding
with dignity and advantage over the Commons of England.
If, instead of the property of the Church belonging. to the
State, which the State had conferred, and which might be
taken away by the donor, it had been the gift of an individual,
the proposition of the Noble Lord was still without exception.
He would not say that mortmain property the moment it be-
came mortmain, belonged to the State, and might be diverted
to any purpose. The will of the donor was to be ob-
served, as as long as it could be beneficially done ; but if
a change of circumstances arose, and that purpose could not
any longer be maintained according to the rules of equity,
and the well known principles of jurisprudence, the donor was
presumed, if alive and consulted upon the subject, would agree
to a different distribution. In Courts of Equity, when a cha-
rity could no longer answer the purpose for which it was created,
a reference was made to the Master to see what was the best
mode of carrying into effect the will of the donor._( Hear. )
It mattered not to whom, or from whom the Church property
was a gift--whether to or from the Catholic religion ?
—( Cries of " Hear, hear, hear.") The Catholic religion
was very different indeed at the time of the Reformation to
what it was at the present time. He was a sincere Protes-
tant, and had been brought up with rather a horror of the'
Catholic religion; and as it was established in its full vigour,
that horror of it was not diminished. He apprehended that
they would say with one voice, if after the present state of
the Christian world and civil society in Ireland, it was found
the Irish Protestant Church could no longer be maintained,
that the best and proper application of the funds of the
Church would be in a system of religious instruction to per-
sons of all persuasion. Well, then they were told that this was
not the time to bring forward the resolution of my Noble
Friend. Some say, wait for the report. Not so, however,
the Noble Lord, the Member for Lancashire. He says he
cares not whether the amount of Church property was twenty
times as much, or the numbers of Church professors
twenty times as small—that Church Property is inviolable,
and his opposition to this resolution consequently determined.
The Right Hon. Baronet had assured them in his resolution
that the Irish Church property was inalienable, and that that
principle should be placed on the statute-book of the country.
He had declared there should be no more reform in the Irish
Church. Let the numbers be ever so small, its appropriation
was inviolable. It was time that this question should be taken
into consideration, and that the House et the latest moment
should endeavour to rescue the country from the effects of this
Bill being enacted. He hoped the Resolution of his Hon.
Friend would be carried—and carried by a large majority.
What might be its result he could not pretend to say, but this
he would observe, that most sincerely should he rejoice if the
Right Hon. Baronet could be induced to bow to the opinion
of the House—if, after some compulsive pangs of agonizing
pride, he should alter his course, and yield to its sentiments on
this subject. He was connected with the late Government,
and he could say truly, that his return to office was no object
of desire, as, from the station he fortunately occupied at the
English Bar, it was more desirable and more profitable to him
to remain in a private station. If the Right Hon. Baronet
would not change his course—if he was determined to proceed,
Right and he ( Sir J. Campbell) had no reason to think that the
Hon. Baronet entertained opinions in private which he did not
act upon in his public capacity—if he was determined to pro-
ceed contrary to the opinions of the country, and be guided by
his associates in office, then it was of the last importance that
his administration should be removed. He thought that every
lover of the English Monarchy should take alarm at the present
state of affairs, when they reflected that the executive power
of the country was in the hands of the pre -ent Opposition.—
( Hear, hear.) He was a lover of the Monarchy—he wished
to see the prerogatives of the Crown respected, and it was as
such, when he looked at what had taken place during the
last month, that he became apprehemive for the security of
the Monarchy ; but did the Right Hon. Baronet expect that
he would rule this country contrary to the wishes of a majority
of the House of Commons? The precedent of 1784 was re-
lied upon, but it bore no analogy whatever to the circum-
stances of the present times.—( Hear.) The Parliament which
now sits is one of the Right Hon. Baronet's own choosing,
and yet he is now in a minority. Pitt, in 1784, when he at-
tempted to rule the country, contrary to the wishes of a majo-
rity of the House of Commons, had a Parliament that was
elected under the Administration of his opponent, Lord North ;
but he had the opinion of the country in his favour. Does
the Right Hon. Baronet believe that he has the voice of
the country in his favour ? He ( Sir J. C.) could say, that
from all that he had observed, and read, and believed, the
present Cabinet had done enough to disgrace their characters
in the eyes of the country, without acquiring the respect of
any. They taunt us with adopting our measures, but in doing
so they have gone far enough to show that they have no con-
sistency themselves, and have not spirit enough to satisfy the
just wishes of the people. He ( Sir J. C.) would not exa-
mine votes of the Right Hon. Baronet, but looking at his Ca-
binet, which proposed to send Lord Londonderry to Russia,
and refused to grant a Charter to the London University,
he could not but say that their conduct had disgraced them m
the opinions of the British public. The Right Hon. Bart.
himself had not ventured to defend their conduct ; he had only
defended himself and his own consistency, and had thrown his
colleagues over board.—( Loud cheers.) He trusted that
the Right Honourable Baronet was not going to adopt
the course that bad been pursued by the Duke of Wellington.
He had thought proper for three weeks to hold the Seals of all
the different offices of the Crown, and had governed this coun-
try, as had been said, by a Dictatorship ; he trusted that the
country now was not to be governed by a Dictatorship ; he
trusted that at the present moment there was more than one
responsible Officer of the Crown---( Cheers)—and that the
Right Honourable Baronet in his own person did not hold
all the oilces of the State.—( Cheers.) It seemed
to him of the utmost importance for the protection
of the institutions of the country, if the Right Hon. Baronet
would not conform to the will of the majority of the House
and nation, that he should make way for a Ministry, let it be
what it might, whom the King could confide in, and who had
the confidence of the country. He was tired of agitation ; but
he must say, that the only mode by which an end could be put
to agitation, was to have a Ministry whose principles harmo-
nized with the majority of the people. Nothing had afflicted
him more than the speech of the Noble Lord the Member
for Lancashire, who had openly avowed that however great the
property of the Irish Church was, and however few were its
members, still it ought to be kept up as it at present existed.
Before he sat down, he should allude to the sentiments of a
Noble Lord, whom he would not hesitate to place in com-
petition with the Noble Lord the Member for Lanca-
shire—he meant the Right Hon. Earl Grey.—( Hear, hear.)
He would not hesitate to place the opinions of that Noble
Lord in opposition to the other, although he must observe that
he had no authority for making such a statement ; but he had
Nood reason to believe that such were the sentiments of that
oble Lord. He had differed with the Noble Lord opposite
( Stanley) respecting the reduction in the revenues of the
Irish Church—he had differed with him on the 147th clause
of the Tithe Bill, and he had differed with him as to the ap.
propriation of the Church property. He therefore con-
ceived that he was fully justified in setting the authority of
that Noble Lord, who was universally beloved and venerated,
and " whose name was a tower of strength"—who was allowed
by even his political opponents to be guided by rational and
constitutional principles--he conceived he was fully justified in
setting his opinions against the opinions of the Noble Lord
opposite.—( Hear, hear.) He would not further detain the
House, as he agreed in the propriety of the compact entered
into last night by the Right Hon. Baronet, that each member
should sacrifice a portion of his speech, so that the debate
might be brought to a close that night.—( Hear.) For the
Right Hon. Baronet he entertained very sincere respect, and
he believed that his principles individually were liberal and
straightforward.—( Loud cries of " Hear, hear.")
Mr. RICHARDS rose with considerable reluctance after
the very eloquent speech of the Hon. and Learned Member op-
posite. He was anxious to state the sentiments that would
govern his vote, but he rose with even still more reluctance,
seeing the anxiety of many Hon. Members, on both sides,
who had more claims upon their attention to address the
House ; but he claimed the indulgence of the House as an
independent Member--( Cheers).-.anxious to vote honestly and
consistently—anxious to vote not for one party or the other,
but with a view to the interests of the country generally, and
more particularly, to the interests of Ireland. He agreed
with the Hon. and Learned Civilian, the Member for the
Tower Hamlets, that they should vote on the present occasion,
not looking to the interests of England alone, but principally,
if not entirely, to the interests of Ireland. It was on that
principle that he should endeavour to apprize the House
of Commons of the sentiments which induced him
to give his vote on the present occasion. He also agreed with
the Hon. and Learned Civilian that it would be presumption in
any individual or any party to set up a standard of truth to which
the people of an entire country should bow. He agreed also
with the Hon. and Learned Member that they were all an-
swerable to the bar of their Maker, not merely for the senti-
ments they entertained, but for their acts and proceedings.—
( Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord, the Member for Lan-
cashire, whose talents he (Mr. R.) bowed to with the greatest
deference, and whose eloquence delighted them all last night,
seemed to him to lay down as a proposition not to be departed
from, that Church Property is inalienable, and as regarded the
Church of Ireland should be so considered. He even ven-
tured to put an extreme case, which startled the House, and
which had startled him (Mr. Richards), that if it was found
that in any parish not a single Protestant could be found, he
would contend for keeping up the Church Establishment in
all its present strength. In that he ( Mr. R.) could not agree.
If there was any proposition more sacred than another, it was
that the institutions of the country, whether civil or religious,
ought to be continued with a view to the temporal and future
welfare of the people.-4 Cheers.) The Right Hon. Pay-
master of the Forces, as well as the Solicitor-General, had
argued that Church property was inalienable, but that was
not the way in which he had learned what was due to the
people, not only of Ireland but of every country. If it could
be proved to him that the Church of Ireland did not
answer the intention of its founders, and promote the
happiness of the people, then, in his opinion, it
ought to be altered. If a community consisted of 100 or
1,000,000, and the Legislature which represented that com-
munity, would—on the principle of eternal justice they would—
determine upon the voluntary system as the only secure, safe,
and just principle—(Cheers)—if the majority of the commu-
nity were of that opinion—suppose that in a community of
100 there were ten of different opinions—how was it possible
for any one to say which was in the right—then the only plan
was to act upon the principle of giving power to the majority
of the community. He had now stated the principle
upon which he would act in a new community, but he

must in the consideration of that question remember that
there was a Church Establishment in Ireland, which was in-
terwoven with all the feelings and interests of the country,
and the question was not properly to be discussed upon mere
abstract principle, but the question was whether the Church,
which has been established for ages—whether the institutions
which are based upon that Church—whether they ought now
to undo that Church—whether they ought to abolish that
Church, or whether they ought to apply its funds in such a
manner as to diminish its efficiency? That appeared to be the
real question, and if it could be shown that any attempt of this
kind, any diversion of the revenues, any alteration in the
amount applied to the purposes of that Church as by law esta-
blished, to the purposes of the Catholic Church, or any other
Church, would injure it, and the constitution and principles of
it be thereby injured, and if it could be shown that not only
was there danger of this, but also of a civil war, by which the best
interests of society would be endangered, then he would say
that the principle to be maintained was, that they ought not
to meddle with the revenues of that Church.--4 Cheers. )
What was the state of the Church in Ireland? He asked not
in what way that Church was established ; that was not the
question. That Church was established, and the question was
whether they could alter it without danger?—(Hear.) In
Ireland, civil and religious discord prevailed to such a degree as
not merely to injure the peace and happiness of the community,
but to endanger its very existence, and were it not for the
power of England, a civil war would now be devastating
that country. But then the question rose—Was it possible
for things to remain as they were ?—(Cheers from the Op-
position.) If it was not possible, then the question would
be, in what manner an alteration could be brought about, so as
to promote the well-being of society in Ireland, and to secure
the safety of the State ? The institutions of the country ought
to be, and must be in the long-run, productive of good to
the country.—( Hear.) If it were shown, then, that the Es-
tablished Church in Ireland was not productive of good, and
that things were not to be continued as they were, then the
inquiry was not how, as the Noble Lord the Member for Lan-
cashire contended, things as they are could be kept up, but
how they could bring about an alteration to the best ad-
vantage of all the parties concerned 2—( Hear.) In Ireland
there were two parties, the Protestants and the Catholics ;
and also a third party, the people of England. The
question was, in what way the House was to act so as
to meet the views of the three parties, and to promote
the peace and happiness of all.—( Hear, hear.) In Ireland
there was a much deeper religious feeling than there was in
England—the Protestants in Ireland were not merely believers
in the truth, but zealous believers---(Heareand laughter)—and
attended most zealously and statedly to their religious ob-
servances. The same observation applied to the Catholics.—
( Hear, hear.) He had been frequently in Ireland, he had
mixed with both parties, and had observed an attention to reli-
gious duties there which he had never observed in England.—
That also must be taken into consideration. The question was
how they were to deal with them in such a way as not to hurt
the feelings of either party, and at the same time to do
justice to bath parties. He would then come to the consi-
deration of the scheme of the Noble Lord the Member for
Devonshire. That scheme had for its object to take from the
Protestant Church a part of its revenue, and to apply it to
education generally.—( Hear, hear.) He must complain of
the terms of the Noble Lord's motion as somewhat disin-
genuous--it would lead persons to believe that it was intended
merely to divert a part of the Church revenues, when they
were not wanted in order to further the education of the
people.—( Hear.) His conviction was, that the object
of this motion was neither more nor less than a diversion of
the revenues of the Protestant Church, which was to be given
to the Catholic Church.—( Hear, bear, and cries of No,
no.") It had been said over and over sgain that seven-
eighths of the people of Ireland were Catholics ; if then, they
were prepared to take from the remaining one.eighth a part
of their present revenues, and apply it to the whole people,
it was evident that they must apply it in the proportion of one
to seven.—( Hear, and laughter.) It was taking from the Pro-
testant Church and giving to the Catholic.—( Hear, from
the Ministerial Benches, and laughter from the Opposition.)
What had come out in the debate from the Gentlemen on the
opposite side of the House? He had taken down the words of
the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Nottingham, and
with the permission of the House, he would just read them.
The Right Hon. Baronet had stated "he quite agreed with those
Gentlemen who had said that the real point of improvement
was, whether or not the House of Commons intended the
Catholics of Ireland should understand that they were to
participate in the advantages of the Protestants."—( Hear.)
They did not mean to participate in the religious advantages—
they %alit to participate in the revenues—( Hear, hear.) He
believed he might say this was calculated to alienate seven-eight,
—at all events a large part of the revenues of the established
Church, in order to bestow them upon the Catholics—( Hear,
hear.) Now to return to the scheme of the Noble Lord, the
Member for Devonshire—( Hear, and cries of Read, read.")
The gentlemen opposite, and particularly the Hon. Member for
Dublin, he hoped would extend him their indulgence. Indeed
he was quite sure the Hon. and Learned Member for Dublin,
from the extreme liberality he was known to possess, would
make excuse for a person who was not circumstanced to ad-
dress the House so often as that Hon. and Learned Gentleman.
—( Oh, oh I—go on, go on—end laughter.) He had too much
respect for the House to occupy too much of its time unne-
cessarily. The first thing the House ought to look to was the
dangerous consequences that must follow from the motion of
the Noble Lord the Member for Devonshire. Could it be
doubted that the first attempt to carry this motion into effect
would be a signal for civil war in Ireland ?—(" Oh, oh P' from
the Opposition, and cheers from the Ministerial side.) Could
it be supposed from the feelings of the Irish Protestants, who
l are in the possession of the revenues of the Church (he would
. not say how they became possessed of them) that they would
give them up without a struggle, and a violent struggle too.
The question, therefore, the House had to consider was, not
only the proposition of the Noble Lord, hut the disastrous re-
sults that must flow from it. The people of England were
Protestants, and whatever disputes might arise as to the numbers
of Protestants and Dissenters,, they all agreed in their opposition
to the Catholic religion ; and it could not be for a moment for-
gotten by the House that one consideration should be attended
to—seamely, in what way the Protestant people of this country
will receive the proposition, and in what way they will deal
with it. He could imagine the Noble Lord the Member for
Devonshire visiting his constituents, and attempting to shew
his dissenting friends, and to state the grounds of his present
proposition, which he would say was made by him for the purpose
of restoring peace and tranquillity to Ireland.—( Cries of
" Hear, hear.") Ile may tell them that the Irish people
are poor, houseless, in want of clothing, and hungry_
and that he was not prepared to clothe the naked or to feed
the hungry, but that he proposed to divert from their proper
purposes the revenues of the Protestant Church, and give
them to the Catholics. In making these statements he (Mr.
Richards) would be glad to know if the Noble Lord did
not fall into the Serbonian bog, whether he could escape from
falling into a Devonshire bog. The Noble Lord, if he would
not say what his own colleagues had done, would tell them
what his Whig predecessors had proposed for the advantage of
the country. He would tell his constituents that they repealed
the septennial act, brought excise into the country, and proposed
to introduce it into our private houses, and that they originated
the bullion Committee which led to the disastrous state of the
country in 1819. He might say, look to what we have done for
the Dissenters, look to our Marriage Bill, make a comparison
between our acts and the acts of the present Administration.
He might say all this, but he would find that the people of
Devonshire would be shrewd enough to distinguish between a
hawk and a buzzard.--( Great cheering, and laughter.)
He might say, " I, Lord John Russell"--( Laughter, and
loud cries of " Order, order.")
Mr. O'CONNELL rose to order. The Hon. Member in
debate had adverted to an Hon. Member by name, which
was out of order. —(Cheers. )
Mr. RICH ARD S--I have only put those words into his
own mouth.—( Laughter.) Well he might say, "I, the Hon.
Member for Devonshire--(Laughter)—and you all know my
sense and discernment—l raised the income tax from 7i to
10 per cent.--( Cheers from the Ministerial side of the House,
and cries of " Read, read," in consequence of the Hon. Member
referring to his notice). He would not pursue that further,
but the question now was, what was to be done? He thought
it clear that the scheme of the Noble Lord could not be satis.
factory, and possibly it might lead to mischief.—( Cheers.)
If the Catholics got part of the revenues of the Church,
they would not be satisfied till they got the whole.--
( Cheers.) He would propose a plan which should be prac-
ticable, and it was impossible to expect success from any plan,
unless it would conduce to the welfare of Ireland, and not
minister to the prejudices and animosities of Protestants or
Catholics. He would propose with great submission and with
the consciousness that he was taking a liberty--( Cries of
" No, no,")—that the Church property (if it were determined
upon the Noble Lord's motion to divert any part of it from its
present purposes to others) should revert to its ancient origin
—( Hear, hear).-eat the time that it was the property of the
poor. And surely it would not be denied that the great bulk of
the people of Ireland were the poor. The Right Hon. Member
for Cambridge had stated a strong claim on this property—that it
was in part appropriated in the time of Henry VIII. to the
use of parochial schools. But he (Mr. R.) would revert at
once to the origin of that property, by applying the whole of it
to the support of the poor. The Hon. Members opposite
would, he was sure, respect the authority of Dr. Doyle on
that subject, and those on that side of the House the authority
of Selwyn. Now both those authorities stated that the whole
of that property was applied to the maintenance of the poor.
" Non quasi suis, sed quasi commendatis,"—not as if their
own, but in trust,—were the words, and the manner in which
they should deal with it. If it was given in support of the
poor—if it was given to clothe the naked and feed the hungry
—let them act on its purport ; but if any different distribution
was contemplated in the property of the Church, in the name
of humanity he called on them not to divert it from the pur-
pose and origin for which it was established. The Right Hon.
Gentleman the Member for Cambridge had quoted an Act of
Henry VIII. to show that the property then enjoyed by the
monasteries was saddled with the burden of parochial schools.
He could also quote Statutes of Henry VIII., in which there
was a saving clause against a violation of the uses of Church
property. That eminent Divine, however, Dr. Doyle, had in
his mind set the question at rest, in his celebrated letter to the
Right Hon. Member for the town of Cambridge, and he would
state, on the authority of that celebrated letter, that that
Learned Divine had it in contemplation to institute a suit in
the Court of Chancery, for the recovery of the rights of the
poor, which, as he observed, had been diverted from the purpose
for which they were intended, and was only restrained from
Lord Manners being the then Lord Chancellor of Ireland,
and the time not being favourable. Having shown that the
poor have an ancient right, and are emphatically entitled to
this property, and that no ties can render sacred a legal wrong
—finding that the question now before the House, is whether
you will violate this property or not—as the humble though
sincere supporter of the poor, he implored the House
sot to divert that property from its specific purpose. He