The Sun.
London, England, 1859-08-01 00:00:00

DUBLIN

Mr. CARD-WELL obtained leave to bring in a bill to
facilitate the communication between Holyhead and Dub-
lin.

CUSTOMS' ACTS

The house went into committee on these acts, and the
chairman was directed to move for leave to bring in a bill
on the same.

INCOME-TAX, &c., BILL.
ThiQ bill, as amended, was considered, and ordered for
third reading to-morrow.
SUPPLY. _ _

On the motion for going into committee of supply,
Lord ELCHO wished to be informed whether it was in-
tended to proceed with supply on Thursday evening, for if
this were the case he would move his amendment on that
day, as to its not being consistent with the honour and dig-
nity of this country to take any part in the proposed
conference.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said
he trusted the committee would terminate before that
day, but at all events the report would be brought up, which
would afford the noble lord an opportunity of proceeding
with his motion.
Lord J. MANNERS drew attention to the answer stated
to been given by the First Lord of the Treasury to a depu-
tation which waited on him in reference to the new Foreign
Office. The noble lord having made some general observa-
tions, said that the noble lord at the head of her Majesty's
Government was reported to have said that the chief com-
missioner had directed Mr. Scott that plans, different to
those already executed, and which were under the inspec-
tion of the house, should be prepared. Those plans had
cost a large sum, and, in his opinion, met all the require
ments, an would prove one of the greatest embellishments
of the metropolis if adopted. An alteration in the Foreign
Office would necessitate a change in the plan of the
Indian officers which would entail on the country a very
large and unnecessary expense. He wished to receive an
assurance from the Government that no alteration in these
plans would take place until the re-assembling of Parlia-
ment, by which time the house would have an opportunity
of deciding on the merits of the plans now submitted to
their consideration.
Mr. HADFIELD asked what course was intended to
be adopted by the Government in regard to the bill before
the Upper House, on the amendment of the law woad
estate and the relief of trustees, and whether any day
be fixed for considering the bill ?
of State
for the Home Department whether it was the inteintioon_
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gave notice that he would move that
in future no new writ should be issued in the case of mem •
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Tha house then went into committee.
On the vote of £3,965 for salaries and expenses of offices
in London under the Local Board of Health Act, some dis-
cussion ensued.
Sir G. C. LEWIS said that there was no desire on the
part of the Government to maintain any unnecessary ex-
penditure in this department, which was subordinate to
the Secretary of State without whose sanction it could not
adopt any proceedings.
The vote was agreed to.

On the vote of £26,275 for temporary commission,
Colonel SYKES drew attention to the item of £6,000
salary to the Lord of Jersey, the justice of which he was
utterly at a loss to understand. The hon. and gallant
member adverted also to a sum of £3,500 for the
University Commission of Scotland, which it ap-
peared was to become a permanent charge on
the country. He trusted that in future the house
would not pass the vote with the same facility they had
been accustomed to do previously.
Mr. BRADY made some observations with reference to
the state of the harbour of refuge at Holyhead, which he
described as utterly useless.
After some conversation, •
Mr, LAING said that tho Tote in regardtol;erbour of re-

fuge commission was in payment of the services that com-
mission had rendered, and their labours were now termi•
nated.

CONSOLIDATION OF STATUTES LAW
COMMISSION.

Mr. EDWIN JAMES said that there was an item in the
vote of X 2,361 for this commission, and it appeared. that
£1,300 was required. That commission had been ap-
pointed in 1854, and since then, instead of doing any ser-
vice, it had acted as an incubus, having tended to stifle any
attempt to mend the state of the statute law. In support
of that statement, he alluded to the bill introduced by the
late Attorney-General for Ireland, which he eulogised
highly, and which was not taken up in consequence of its
being stated that the commission were considering the
question.

After some remarks by Mr. WarrEslDE,
Sir G. C. LEWIS said that this subject of the consolida-
tion of the statute law was one that had been described by
some of the most eminent lawyers, who entertained the
most contradictory opinions as to the mode of codefying
the existing laws. (Hear.) Ho believed, ho*ever,
that benefit had already resulted from the labours of the
commission, and he thought that -it was desirable that it
should be continued. It was necessary that those who
were engaged on the commission should .be remunerated ;
and he assured the house there was no desire on the part
of the Government to continue this commission for the
purpose of patronage, but from a conviction of its utility.
With regard to a remark which had been made, to the

effect that the commission did not propose to amend the
laws, he would remind the house that their function was
simply to consolidate and not to attempt to improve the
laws.
Mr. WYSE said it would be the better course to wind
up the commission and begin afresh. He always considered
commissions the slowest and worst mode of proceeding, and
he thought some of the most eminent law officers should be
appointed to made the necessary consolidation of the laws.
He would move that the item be rejected.
Sir H. WILLOUGHBY supported the amendment.
Mr. G. C. LEWIS said that he would consent to the
reduction of the item by 21,000 the salary of the Chief
Commission.
After some discussion the house divided, and the num-
bers were—
For the amendment 9l
Against BO
Majority
The item was accordingly struck out of the vote, which,
with that reduction, was agreed to.
_ PATENT LAW AMENDMENT ACT.

On the vote of £20,095 for the salaries and expenses pay-
able under this act,
Mr. BRADY strongly protested against,this vote, and
said that 'under the present system the money for these
salaries came virtually out of the poor man's pockets. The
hon. member urged further objections, and concluded by
moving the rejection of this vote.
Mr. LAING said that with the exception of the pay-
ment to the law officers of the Crown, the hon. member
would be defeating his own object if he carried his motion.
Mr. WILLIAMS said that at present the law officers of
the Crown received £8,300, while they actually rendered no
service, the clerks doing all the work. He proposed, there-
fore, that their payment should be reduced to £4,150.
Colonel SYKES contended that the operation of the
patent law was very injurious to the inventive genius of
the country.
After some discussion, in which Sir J. Shelley, Mr.
Grogan, Mr. Wyse, Mr. Briscoe, Mr. Brady, Mr. E.
James, and other hon. members, the amendment was nega-
tived without a division. _ _ _

Some discussion ensued upon some of the other items,
but the vote was ultimately agreed to.
The vote of £9,254 for the Board of Fisheries in Scot-
land was agreed to, as well as a vote of £l,OOO to the Board
of Manufacturers in Scotland under the treaty of union.
A vote of £5,000 for highland roads was agreed to. After
some discussion, in the course of which . .

Mr. LAING explained that the money was applied to the
purposes of providing roads in the poorer districts of the
highlands of Scotland, and he added that he would make
inquiries to ascertain if any reduction in the item could be
made.

£9OO was voted for the commission for the public4tion of
ancient laws and statutes of Ireland.

The following votes were also agreed to :—£5,000 for
guarantees, £587000 for the pensions of officers in the mer-
chant seaman's service and their widows and children,
£15,000 for the relief of distressed British seamen abroad,
£4o,ooofor dues payable by British or foreign vessels under
the reciprocity treaties.
•
On the vote of £15,000 to pay bounty &c.,
Mr. CLIVE said that it was believed they were not sin-
cere in their expressions of a desire to put down the slave
trade, and it was asserted that their only object was to cap-
ture vessels with slaves.
Mr. LAING denied the imputation, and defended the
conduct of our officers employed in the suppression of the
slave-trade.

The vote was agreed to.
On the vote for £36,700 for lighthouses,
Mr. A. SMITH objected to payment out of the votes of
the house for the erection of lighthouses in the colonies.
Mr. LAING explained that where lighthouses in the
colonies were erected and maintained for local purposes,
the colonists defrayed the expense, but where they were
for general benefit it was borne by this country.
The vote was agreed to ; as well as a vote of £l,OOO for
poyment of half the salaries of the officers lately employed
at the settlement of the Orange River territory.
On the vote of £40,000 for promoting the improvement of
the Kaffirs and for the settlement and government of Bri-
tish Kaffraria, . _

Mr. WYSE inquired for some information as to how the
money had been expended, and with what result.
Mr. C. FORTESCUE said the money had been ex-
pended on public works, and with much profit to the na-
tives. It was not, however, intended to return the vote at
the same amount.

It being ten minutes to four o'clock the discussion was
interrupted.
VEXATIOUS INDICTMENTS BILL.

This bill was read a third time and passed.•
ROMAN CATHOLIC CHARITIES BILL.
This bill went through committee, and was ordered for
third reading.
DUBLIN POLICE BILL.
This bill was read a second time.