The Sun.
London, England, 1835-11-19 00:00:00

Mr. DAY asked whether, when Mr. Wesley formed tilt
FO iety In had not: supreme power to expel Any member
Did l:e not delegate such power to the Conference ?
Mr. ECKETT—They' had heard the questions put.by the
leader a-the opposition.—(Laughter.) In aniwer,-he had
to say, that Mr. Wesley did enjoy supreme authority over
both preacher and people—he had stated so at the outset.
But Mr. Wesley never did, for he .never could delegate
such power to any one. Mr. Wesley, on the contrary,
said these remarkable words—“' The people Will never sub-
mit, to any man as they have done to me."
Mr. DAY-lip did not know that such, as you would
arise.—(Laughter.)

Mr. EcXETT-He did know that menn-like himself
would arise; but he also knew that there would many arise
who would be deeply imbued, with the feelings of religious
freedom.--(Loud cheers.)
Mr. DAY and his small knot of friends got up another in•
terruption, which was only put an end to by the Chairman
saying, if Mr. -.Day was not more peaceable, be must be
removed.

Mr. ECKETT was certain that the preachers would not
be obliged to Mr. Day for his advoeacy—(Cheers)--it was
a lost cause if they bad no better or more discreet advo-
cate. Mr. Day believed all that was said in. the Magazine
—that was the very reason why it ought to be looked at
with great caution. It was the preachers' own work, and
written by themselves. Was, then, their own assertions
to be held conclusive_?—(Laughter.) Had time per-
mitted he would have gone further into the exami-
nation of the right claimed by the preachers ; btit would
content himself with observing that in the Methodist
Magazine the preachers had advocated a claim to " a power
of the keys"—that was worse than any Popish claim that
was known.—(Cheers.) That would indeed be a most
woeful power, if possessed by one man or any body
of men. They had also had the mendacity to assert
that , such power was claimed by Air, Wesley. How
ignorant they were who made such an assertion, for in
Mr. Wesley's time the Methodist Society was not a
`Christian Church:?—(Cries of "No, no,') If that man had
been acquainted with the history of Mr. Wesley, and the
Methodists, he would have known that it was not till four
Years after Mr. Wesley's death that the Sacraments were
dispensed in their Chapels, and it was not a Church till
they had such a power. -,. Up to Mr. Wesley's death
he always advised his hearers to ,go to Church for the Sa-
crament.--(More opposition at the end of the chapel.) 'lle
was pleased at such interruptions, for they made him bold,
--they clove off that timidity which Was Delimit to him
-(Laughter)—and then out came the whole truth of
the Matter so far as he was concerned. When he
became a Methodist, it. was considered the indisputable
right of the official meeting to consider any matter con-
nected with Methodistical affairs. But now the preacher
always presided,, and . whenever any subject displeasing
to him was breached, he instantly said that it must
be dropped ; and, if persisted ..in, he left the Chair,
and so broke up the Meeting. And thus, in every way, the
whole power and authOrity was in the hands of the,preach-
ers. Well, the Conference of 1835 was expected to make
-some concessions—he thanked God that he had not had
any such anticipations, for those.•who had, had been most
cruelly deceived. What had they done ? Why, given
power to the superintendant to call his own friends—the
stewards appointed by himself—and ask them whether
• there were any grievances to be redressed ; but, strange to
say, these meetings were confined to three days out of the 365.
Perhaps Mr. Day would be so good as to tell him the rea-
sin' of that.—(Great laughter.)
air. DAY—If you will read the resolution, I think I
can.—( Laughter.)
Mr. ECKETT—Read the Resolution again.
Mr. DAY—I suppose it is to prevent agitation before the
Conference meets.—(Laughter.)
Mr. ECKETT—I certainly think Mr. Day right. To
prevent agitation, it is all to be concluded in the short space
of three days.—(Great laughter.)
Mr. PAY—Wellnis -not :three days quite sufficient to
argue a question ?—( Increased laughter.)
Mr. EcKETY—If there were such opponents as Mr.
Day, I should think it was not.—(Roars of laughtei.)
After this questioning had ceased,

Mr. ECKETT then proceeded with his argument. Who
were to he the members of this extraordinary meeting, to
be convened for the purpose of exercising the high privilege
of being allowed to memoralizeth e Conference ? Why, first,
the circuit steward, the leaders, and theilocal preachers—not.
the whole of them, but those only who had been ten
years uninterruptedly and continuously in office.-----(Great
Cheering.) But there were subjects on which the. Con-
ference would not allow themselves to be...inetnorialiied. Now
he had read all those subjects on which they would not
alloiV themselves to. be memorialized, and he must confess,
after doing so, he was-puziled to know on what. subject they,
would allow themselves to be memorialized.-L(Laughter.)
They were, only to be memorialized on subjects containing
the effective principles of -Wesleyan Methodism. Perhaps
Mr. Day would be so good as to say what that .was.—
(Great laughter.)
Mr. DAY—To do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly
with your God.—(Great cheer:ng.)
Mr. ECKETTi6uId adroit that, but had the Conferenee
done justice • or loved mercy ?-.(Cries of " No, no," and
much cheering.) Now, if Mr. Day would only go to the
President of the Conference, Mr. R,2ece, or to Mr. Bun-
ting, and obtain from them an undertaking, with their sig-
natures attached, that no person should, in any case, be
expelled without a majority of a Leaders' meeting, he
would undertake to say that all opposition should be
withdrawn.—(Loud cheering.) He thought he had said
enough to convince every person, who was not so un-
reasonable as Mr. Day, that they were only asking
justice, and that which they had a right to.—(Cheers.)
It was the determination of the Association not to submit
to such domination, and to bring their oppressors from
their seats.—(Great cheering.) Had the Connection raised
their voices in 1827, the agitation that was now going on
would never have taken place.—(Great cheering.) The
Methodist preachers had boasted that they had the power
to sway the destinies of Britain, for as they were the inter-
mediate parties, they could turn the scale which way they
chose. Was it to be allowed that Methodist Preachers
should have the power of going into all parts of the mighty
Empire of Britain, carrying their influence with them, for
the purpose of ruling her destinies ? The destinies of Bri-
tain would never be submitted to the Methodist Preachers.
--(Cheers) Let them leave their power where they ought
to leave it, in the hands of Continental Despots.—(Cheers.)
Let them net intfoduce a system of coercion into the
Church of Christ.—(lncreased cheering.) Let them
know that the Son had made us free.—(Great cheering.)
Let them know that we acknowledge no absolute power
but that of Christ.—(Great cheering.) That to His au-
thority we will bow—that we take His Word for our rule
—that we will bind His precepts about our necks and
our hearts. (Great and long continued cheering.)
Let them prove to us that there is a duty to be
performed end we will perform it.—(Loud cheers.) Let
them prove that sacrifices arc to be made and we will
make them—(Loud cheers)—but let them not think that
Methodist societies are to become the slaves of ecclesias-
tical despots. We have met to-night to state what the do-
minations of the preachers are ; some have come forward and
even hugged their chains, but we fling in the face of eccle-
siastical tyrants all
.their threats of excommunication.—
(Cheers.) We f!ar not the thunder-bolts of their vengeance,
as we know they will fall harmlessly at our feet.—(Cheers.)
We kurria at their threats, we owe them no ill will—we
des're to have them as brothers in Christ, but we will be dealt
tv:th as freemen, not as slaves.—(Cheers.) We want the
pecuniary aid of the meeting to assist us, we want them
to learn that the preachers can do wrong, and that the acts
of. Conference of 1835 are a disgrace to the attributes of
meicy.—(Great cheering.) We trust thatmeetings like the
present will take place, not only over the whole of London,
but the whole kingdom.—(Cheers.) We must turn night
into day, and darkness into light, and when darkness is dis-
pelled, and light 'shines upon the Day—(Great laughter)—
then we shall s:e• our way eloarly, and find that Methodist
preachers would come back to the principle of Christianity,
and would follow the law of Christ. The Press, the mighty
Press, will take up our cause, and if it does it will rouse the
feelings of Englishmen, and' an end will be put to Papal-
like domination within these realms,—(Tremendous cheer-
ing, which lasted for several minutes.)
The CHAIRMAN informed the meeting that pecuniary
assistance was wanted, and plates would be held at the door,
when he trusted the friends of their objects would be liberal.
The meeting was closed with a hymn and prayer at a
quarter past ten o'clock, and separated quietly:

By advices from Ancona we learn that .a disease
resembling the cholera morbus had appeared in several
towns of the Lombardo-Venetian kingdom. Several cases
had occurred at Arione, near Ferrara. In order to tran-
quillize the people of Rome, the Pope bad caused a cordon
sanitaire to be established on the Adriatic frontiers, and
guarda costas upOn the coasts of the Adriatic.
SIR JAMES D. HAY, BART.—Constderable sur-
prise is expressed in the military circles that no detailed
notice has been taken of the recent court-martial on Sir J.
D. Hay, Bart. We understand that that gentleman is
taking all the necessary steps for bringing the matter before
the highest authorities ; but studiously abstains from mak-
ing; through the medium of the press, any ex parte state-
ment which might he prejudicial to others.

Wint..r is now commencing in earnest. The damp,
foggy, disagreeable weather which so long prevailed, has
been succeeded by a cloudless sky and a smart frost. The
summits of the hills on the opposite side of the river arc
a;dn covered with snow, and the amateurs of the winter
s;:orts of skating and curling are ah eady looking fol.wor 1 to
as early opportunity of enjoying the amusements of the ice.
n?..4 Intelligencer.