The Sun.
London, England, 1832-07-26 00:00:00

Lord ALTHORP said that from the last accounts it
appeared that the subject was under the consideration of
the Congress, and he had no doubt it would be decided
before the Session expired.
Colonel EVANS rose to propose rep elutions and to move
fir returns concerning the military establishments of this
ceuntry, and said he felt confident that if his suegeiliens
were adapted by the Government a saving of 1,801).000
to 2,000,0001. a year would be effected.—(Hear,
hear, hear.) It was now nearly two yea's Since
the Government had been in office, during which time
most of their attention had been occupied by a great and
important object, which was now happily set at rest,
lion. Members would recollect the promise which they
gwe to their constituents at the last election, that they
would exert the utmost economy in the distribution of public
money, and therefore he sincerely hoped, that so large a
sum as he had mentioned would be rescued for the
people. It should be recollectet: also that when the
t try estimates were brouelat forward there was an under-
' standine, that in consequence of the Right lion. Gentle-
man (Sir J. Hobhouse) having but just come into office,
and for various other reason., all discussion upon the esti-
mates should be avoided. The present time, therefore, he
thought most opportune for bricking forward the subject.
His first Resolution in effect was, that the prospect of the
internal security and tranquility of the country, as well as
its strength having been mulch increased by the passing of
the Refiirm Bill, the necessity fir a reduction in miiitary
establishments was most apparent The next resolution
proposed the reduction of certain items which might well
he dispensed with. The first reduction was with relerenc to
persons in Chelsea Hospital—the grooms and servants of offi-
cers the removal of whom, and the placing of affairs of the
college in their room, would effect a saving of nearly
3,0001. a year. The pensioners, ton, cort the country
three times as much as when they were in active service.
A cohsiderable saving might be effected by allowing them
certain stipend, and permitting them to live in
the surrounding villages. In the civil department of
the College, 40 or 50 clerks might be dispensed with, by
which the country would save 5,000/. or 6,0001. a year.
The salary of one of the Governors might also be reduced,
for it appeared from the returns that he held three or four
ffiecee, so would be well provi led for. By this m sans
saving, probably, of 3,000/ year might he elf et d,
which, together with the other items he Lad stated, would
make a total of nearly 10,000/. a year in that department.
In the Military Asylum great mediations might also he
made by giving each corps a certain allowance, and causing
them to bring up seven or eight boys. By this
probably the saving would extend to 13,000/. a year, in-
dependent of the expense of building and keeping up the
establishments. The nest item to which he would allude
was the Waggon Trade, and though it was a
small item, still a great saving might be made
in it. A suggestion had been made that carts could
Bt used with much more effect than those four-horse Iv:age
guns, and they would have a great recommendation by
costing nothing after the first purchase, of not coating to
the country a single farthing during peace. The
text item he came to was the Yeomanry. He
considered the Irish Yeomanry were rather hostile than
conducive to the maintenance of peace, therefore he would
propose that they should alt gather be abolished, and for
the small yeomanry force in England, he thought that the
taw hundred men belonging to thrm had as much public
spirit as the 12,000 National Guards in France
who received no more than their arms and accoutrements,
the saving to be effected was 65,000/. a-year. The next
item was the militia, upon the staff of which he found that
ihere was a whole army of serjeants and drummers; lie
proposed to reduce six serjeants and two drummers
from every corps which, if extended to Ireland, would
ttrect a saving of about 2'7,000/. He next alluded to
the district recruiting service in Ireland. He proposed
ter abolia4 all the establishments but the two head ones,
a saving to be effected by this destination he estimated at
18,000/.

(LEFT SPEAKING.)

HOUSE OF LORDS.

Sir ANDREW Aomsw and others brought up the private
Bills,

Mr. BURNELL and others brought up the Irish Boun-
daries Bill. A Member of tbe House of Commons ap-
peered at the Bat with a message praying, that their-
Lordships would permit tbe Bishop of London to attend
a Committee in the House of Commons to give evidence
upon a Bill for the better observance of the Lord's Day.
The Newfoundland Duties' Bill went through a Com-
mittee, and ordered to be read a third rime to-morrow.

Lord RADNOR presented a petition from a parish in
Yorkshire, in favour of the Government System of Edu-
cation introduced into Ireland.

The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition from
Shirley, against Negro Slavery.
The Duke of WELLINGTON presented two petitions
orn Galway, against certain clauses in the Lush Reform
Bill.

Earl RODEN presented petitions against the Irish Re-
form Bill, from the Orange Conservative Society of Ire-
:and, the Sheriffs and Common Council of Dublin, seve-
,al lodges, and various parishes in Ireland.
The Eirl of ELDON presented a petition praying for
amendments in the Irish Reform Bill from certain Magis-
teatesin the County of Galway.
Lord PLUNKET presented a petition from the Synod
Ulster, in favour of the new plan of education.
PATRONAGE OF THE LORD CHANCELLOR.
The LORD CHANCELLOR presented a petition
from the bankers, merchants, and others of the town of
Leicester in favour of the Local Courts Bill, in-
troduced by his Lordship t sessions back. He
yproved of the prayer of this petition, and hoped that
the Bill to which it referred would be carried into effect.
It had been referred to the Commissioners of Law Inquiry
to examine into its detai;s. He wished to take this op-
portunity of making some observations upon a subject
eferreil to in another place last night. He meant some
ecent arrangements made in the Court of Chancery, with
respect to which the Solicitor-General was not able to
afford that information which he might have been
tt ad he made inquiry of him (the Lord Chancellor.
The office he had the honour to hold was paid in
the worst possible manner, viz.—partly by salary, partly
oy fees, and partly by certain:patrona;;e, which W 33 allowed
or the sustension of the dignity of that office, and the
upport of that family upon which the Chancellor almost
inevitably entailed the burden and expense of a peerage.
rhis patronage had always been taken and deemed to be
an actual part of the emoluments of the office. This was
he worst possible way in which any office could be remune-
ated. It was bad, because it in,grit happen, as in the case
of Lord Loughborough, that an individual might hold it for
•,even years and not have one of those offices fall vacant,
whilst another might hold it for as many months and have
(Item all fall vacant. A necessary consequence of the
Istem was that it kept up use;ess places which
tight to be abolished. and had a tendency to perpetuate
i,niseg. So completely were the offices to which he allu-
led considered a part of the emoluments of the Chan-
cellor, that they had been made the subject of
marriage settlement. From the moment of his taking
;he office lie had the honour to fill, it was his fixed de-
erinination to use his best endeavours to prevail
upon Parliament to abolish th, m. Two Bills
were accordingly prepared fur that purpose, and one of
hem was brought forward last session, and was only
postponed to give time for some improvements to
be introduced into it. Since these alterations had been
made, by which the two Bills he referred to were to be con-
solidated into one, it was proposed in them to abolish two
of the principal offices to which he bad referred. One of
them was that of the Registrar of Affidavits. He
hoped tbat his Bill would be laid before the House
n ;he course of a very few days. Whilst the
alterations he referred to were making in the Bill,
it unfortunately happened that the individual who held
-ne or two of these offices died; but how that could
;lave made any man think that he would now
preserve those offices because the appointments
to them were as much vested in him as
.nuch as any part of the salary of his office he was at a
losstto imagine. He had been obliged, on account of the
importance of the duties attached to it, to pull up the
office of Registrar of Affidavits, but it was wed
know to some who now heard him, as well as to others now
in.another place, that he had announced his determination
within 48 hours of that office becoming vacant, neverthe-
less to proceed with its abolition.
(LEFT SITTING.)

THE CARRICKSHOCK TRIALS..-KILKEN•
juLy 22.—Mr. KEM24IIS, the Crown solicitor, has
just now served a notice upon Mr. P. Cosrict.LoE, agent
t.i the prisoners, to the effect that JOHN RYAN would be
agaiv 4144 i on his trial to-morrow. The ATTORNEY-
GKNERAL, we hear, has stated that whether Juries 34rreil
nor, his directions were to put every one of Ire prisonz.rs
"ti their tr:al. A rumour prevailed vesteidsy•that an ex.
Tess had reached the Castle annontit;ing th arquittil of
Voss.—Dublin Freeman's Journal of Tuesday.