The Sun.
London, England, 1832-05-10 00:00:00

During the exclusion strangers the Sheriffs and Remem-
braneer of the city of London appeared at the bar with
the with petition of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Com-
mon Council, which was agreed to by the Common Coon-
! cif to day. Its presentation was attended with a short
discussion, an outline of whieleh we hive been favoured
w:th. It is as follows :
Mr. Alderman WOOD, in moving that the petition
be read at Tenth, said he was prevented by a domestic
calamity from being present at the meeting at which it
: wits got up.
The petition was then read.
.!. Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN concurred in the prayer
of the petition. He thought it a great mischief
to the country that the House of Lords had so
conducted themselves as to interrupt the progress of
the Reform Bill.—(Cheers.) He begged to state that
the state of his health had prevented his attendance as
much as be could wish at public meetings of his consti-
tuents, and also in this House, but be declared his inten-
tion of being at his post at this all important crisis.—
( Hear, hear.)
Mr. Alderman THOMPSON hail attended the meeting
i at which the petition had been got up, and could bear
testimony to the general feelings of regret and disappoint-
ment which had been felt, not only by the Corporation of
London, but by all persons of every class in London at
the proceedings of the House of Lords.—(Cheers.)--
He felt satisfied whoever was called to his Majesty's
Councils would fail to conduct the government of the
country with satisfaction to the people, and would fail to
maintain public peace and tranquillity, unless the Bill,whole
and entire as it was at present,was proceeded in.--(Cheers.)
It was upon the Bill, as it had left the House of
Commons that the people had set their minds, and it was
perfectly absurd to say that there had been any thing like
a reaction upon the subject of Reform. The fact was the
People had been leas agitated because they had confidence
ia the assurance that had been given by his Majesty's Mi-
nisters that the Bill would be carried untnutilated.
But the greater that confidence had been, the greater was
their diaapiontment at the deprivations by the King and
the country of the aid of those Ministers.—(Cheers.)
The length of time that the Bill had been under
consideration had occasioned considerable stagnation
in trade, especially of the retail trade, and which,
of course, had extended to the general branches
of manufacture and commerce of the country,
iand he was apprehensive that at the present awful crisis
commercial credit would be greatly impaired.
Mr. Alderman VENABLES supported the prayer of
the petition.
Mr. Alderman HUGHES said he was present at the
Meeting of the Common Council, and he proposed an
amendment to that part of the petition which prayed the
House of Commons to refuse the supplies until the
Reform Bill was passed. It was absurd for the Common
Council to refuse the supplies, and withhold their confi-
dence from a Government before they knew of whom
that Government was formed.—(Hear, hear.) Although
the petition purported to be that of the Lord Mayor, Al-
dermen, and;Common Council, there were only six aldermen
en present, and all of them held up their hands against that
that part of the petition to which he alluded.
Mr. -HUNT said, though not an Alderman or a Com-
mon Councilman, he was a Liveryman. He reminded
f the House that the Common Council had only to attend
If to the municipal business of the City, the election for Mem-
hers of Parliament lay with the Livery. That body, the
Livery, were to meet to-morrow, and they would, no
doubt, follow in the track chalked out for them by the

Common Council.
Mr. C. PELHAM wished to treat the corporation with
great respect, for he admired their conduct throughout the
history of the country ; and he thought that one of the
greatest mischiefs of the Reform Bill was that that great
constituency would be degraded by having infused into it
a set of vagabond 10/. voters.—(Laughter. )
The House did not open for the admission of strangers
till Five Minute Past Six o'clock.
Immediately an order being obtained, the STEAYHR
called on
Lord EBRINGTON, who addressed the Hot se as fol-
lows :—However reluctant I am to take up the
time of the House, I feel that little apology
is required for my doing 80 on the present occasion.—
(Hear, hear.) I sincerely wish that the task that I have
undertaken had been Committed into abler and better
hands. But whatever may be the opinion of
persons with respect to the substance of the motion
which I shall have the honour of submitting, I think there
are few persons who will not consider, that at this time,
and under the present existing state of circumstances,
in which the country is placed, this House is called upon
for some expression of its opinion.—(Loud cheering.)
And, I am happy to say I have precedent for the course I
am about to pursue. It must in the recollection of many
Members, that in 1812, upon the death of Mr. Perceval,
Mr. Stuart Wortley, now Lord Wharncliffe, moved an
address to the Prince Regent, praying him to take such
measures as would enable Lint to form a strong and
efficient Administration.—(Loud cheets.) In the debate
that took place on that occasion, there some
Gentlemen who objected to it, on the ground of its being
an improper interference on the part of the House, and
in reply to some observations of that sort it .was that
Mr. Canning made use of the following expression.
]Sr. Canning, after stating that the interference of
this ffouse ought not in such cases be had recourse
to except under circumstances of particular emergency,
proceeded to vindicate the right of that House, and the
propriety of its interfering in these words—" I think that
man is ill read, not in your journals, but your constitution
who should say, that in a case of such transcendent
importance it would not be competent for the Legislature
to give itsadViz.e to prevent the necessity of control." Sir,
words of caning convey in much better and more
forcible language than I can possibly use, my feelings on
thiesubject, and fully justifies me in the course I am about
to pursue, I beg leave to state most distinctly that in the
measure I am now about to propose, I have no wish what,
ever to etnbarass the crown in the choice of an administration
but, Sir, I feel that no obstacle so injurious of the Crown
and of the country as to the existence of any misappre-
hension on the part of the Crown with respect to
the sentiments of this House.—(Tremendous cheering.)
or the existence of any doubt in this House itself with
respect to the sentiments of the majority of its Members
on the present occasion.--(Hear, hear, hear.) Sir,
ttrange and sudden changes have been reported to
hay& beset! Pape in another tivarter. 1r do not
kknow, but Ido not believe that they have. I do not
now, but they may have taken place also in this
House. It is reported that changes in opinion
have taken place, as I understand, with respect to the
Reform Bill, and its authors in this House. Ido not
believe that this is the case—(Tremendous cheering)
but at all events it is necessary, with a view to the the
tranquillity of the country—(Loud Cheers)—with a
view to the the permanence of any Government--
and with a view to a true estimate by the Crown and the
TuntrY) of the sentiments of that House, that those sen-
11"nta should be fully made known. Sir, it is true,
I" was 4equeated by ray Noble .r.:"riend below me not to
teake the present motion. It is true that a wish was con-
veyed to me from my Noble Friend at the head of the Go-
vernment not to makethe motion, and that they were quite
satisfied to retire front office with what had already been
done. Sir, I know full well that they are perfectly prepared
to retire from office with no other meal of approbation
• thin the reffeetion of their .own manly acts.—
(L(.acts.
oud cheering.) They
would have been con-
tent to retire from office with all the obloquy that had
Leen heaped upon Them since they came in to
affair, and have carried with them into their retirement the
consolation of how much they had effected. I sAy how much
They lead effected ; because though dragged through
the humiliation of having the question whether Gatton or