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.NEW COURT-Roust, SOUTHWARK.
Second Du—Madly, Feb. 7.
ThE Judges having taken their seats, and the
Court being opened at nine o'clock in the morning,
Colonel Despard said—" Before the business
commences, or rather proceeds farther,' am anxious
to do away some unfounded aspersions, lest they
might have an injurious impression on the Jury ;
?o4 they arise trom certain libellous publications
withrespen, to me —.;--"•
The LORD CRIEP Jusrrcz answered-7" At
prqsent there is no Jury called, and you have no
ript to address the Court upon the subjed of any
injurious impression made upon the Jury. Neither
have you, at any time, a tight to make the obser.
Various which you now appear to be launching.".
Aldorman Ilibbert addressed the Court, with a
liew of being excused from serving on the Jury,
'nn account of his being obliged to attend to the ad.
ministration of justicein the City as a Magistrate ;
and observed, that his residebee" in the County. of.
Sauey was occasional, and it would be severe upon
himself, and other Magistrates in the same pre.
dicatuent, to be obliged to attend, from..such
bccasional residence ; that the Lord Mayor and
other Aldermen were in a similar situation, and
'fie trusted the Court would excuse him from serv.
ingz,uppn public grounds.
the Lobo CUM' jusTrcr said, that the Public
Fete indebted to these worthy Magistrates for the
share they had in the administration of justice, and
entertained every wish to accommodate them, but
the points rested upon by the worthy Magistrate,
Ivere of minor importance to the duty to be now
discharged in that Court. However, the Jury
Should be called over, and if it could be formed
without calling upon the worthy Magistrate, they
Would be ready to excuse him.
The Clerk, of the Arraigns then proceeded to call
over the names of the Jurors, when. the following
Gentlemen, were sworn in, after a number of chal.
lenges had taken place ;
Grant Allen, Esq. ,
William Dent, ot Battersea, ESii•
William Davison, of Clapham, Esq.
Gabriel Copland, of Clapham, Esq.
Nr. William Cookson, of Gainsford-street, Soutolmark.
).Ir. oleo Farmer, of Southwark.
Nr. oho Collinson, of Gravel-lane, Christ Church.
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Mr.lames Webber, of Surrey-road, Christ- Church.
Mr. filbert Hancliside, of Greerv-wallt, Christ Church.
Mr. John Raymer, of Bankside.
Mr. Peter Dobree, of Clapham.,
Mr. john Fired, of Geme.street, Lambeth Matsh.

Mr. Robert Dent, who it appeared did not claim
his privilege of exemption from age, to which he
w.is entitled, being above 70, was, by consent of
both parties, excused.

The Clerk then proceeded to read the Indictment,
'which is very long, but was in substance as fol.
lows :—That the Prisoner, together with certain
'Ott persor s therein :named, on the loth of No.
"other last, did conspire, &C. compass and ima.
gine, &e. the 'death of our Sovereign Lord the.
King.
The first Overt.ael wait, that the Prisoner,
With certain other persons, on the above day, did en.
&avow to seduce certain-Soldiers therein named,
and divers other Subjeds of our Lord the King, and•
to persuade them with force and aims, to seize and
destroy the Person of our Lord the King.
The second Overt.at was, that the Prisoner and
others, on the same day, did conspire, consult,
combine, agree, &c. to administer Certain unlawful
Oaths to divers persons, tending to 'bind them to
certain unlawful Associations, with . intent to sub.
Vert the Government of 'this gealm, as by Law
established, &c. and to destroy the King.
The thirdADvert.ati was, that, they had secretly
endeavoured to obtain and procure, and in their
custody to have and keep; divers cards, &c. con.
tainiog an oath, engagement, and so forth; for the
purpose of binding certain persons to such unlawftsi
associations, &c. with intent to administer to such
Per Sons the said certain oath, engagement, &c.
and that, by the said oath, engagement, and so
forth, the said Subjelts should .become Members of
such Asiociation; for the purpose of subverting the
uvernment of this Realm,, as by Law established,
4C. and to murder the King.
The fourth Overt.a4t was, that the Prisoner did
athninister, and cause to be administered to Thomas
flake and others, such oaths; &c, &c. •
The fifth Overt-aft was, that the Priloner, with
ethers, did meet, conspire,
,consult, agree, &c, to
lay in wait to assassinate and murder the King.
The sixth Overt-AO was, that the Prisoner, and
others, did maliciously, traitorously, der. meet 'and
consult with others,. for the purpose of attacking
the. tank -of England, and the King's Tower ot
Iccindon; in order the moroeffatually to fight with,
iil:and.destroy, the Forces, and other liege Sub.
Jqts of our Lord the King, and to raise insurrec-
tion. and It Anllion within the•Kingdorn.
Tice seventh Overt.att was, that the Prisoner,
.with others, did 'Secretly, traitorously, &c. meet,
vitiSult,' and agree, to procure and obtain means to
;destroy the King.
The eighth Overt-ail charged was, that the
`,Prisoner did meet and agree, that divers. of them
on a certain day, when the King should go
to meet the , Parliament, lie :in' wait to. attack and
shoot the King, and that they should surround and
trice themselves masters of the House of Parlia-
anent, and should' sei;e, on the Bank of England,
*lnd the Tower of London, and seize Magazines,
&e. in the neighbourhood tondon ; to arm them.
,selves, in order to fight with and kill the Forces of
the King, arid others who should be true to the
King; that
they should stop anti detain the Mail
,Coaches, &c. and prevent them from setting out,.
arid, according Ito a signal of attack, to 614te. a

Rebellion, &c. against the Statute, and against the
King'i Peace, &c.
A second Count stated, that the Prisoner, and
others, &c. oh the same day, maliciously, traitor.
ously, &c. did conspire, with intention to imprison
and restrain the Person of the King, and'did ex.
pressly utter and declare such intention, by divers
ads and deeds, stating the said Overt-ads and deeds
as evidence' of such intention, &c.

A third Count set forth, that the Prisoner, toge.
ther with others, did conspire, &c. to depose the
King, and to deprive him of the Kingly Name, and
Imperial Crown and Dignity, &c. of this Realm,
and then stated the said Overt.aas as proof of such
intention.

On which IncliCtment the Defendant had been
arraigned, and pleaded Not Guilty; and the Charge
to the Jury was, to inquire whether he was Guilty
or Not Guilty of the said Charges, &c.
It was then agreed between the Counsel for
the Prosecution and the Prisoner, that the Wit.
nesses should be examined separately, with the ex.
ception a certain Honourable PersOnei4rhirvrere
permitted to remain in Court.
Mr.ABLIOTT opened the Pleadings.
Mr., ATTORNEY GENERAL proceeded to state
the caste to. the Jury, in the course of which he Ob.
served, it was obvious that attention was excited iii
proportion to the importance of the subjeCt, and he
could not permit himself to entertain a doubt, the
Jury were already sufficiently acquainted with the
nature of their present inquiry ,to induce them to
attend to hiS statement of the Case, and much more
to the Evidence which he should lay before them
upon this occasion, which was certainly of the most
solemn nature, both as it regarded the Gentleman at
the Bar, . and the Public at . large. In either
sense, no question of greater importance could
be presented to a judicial examination ; for, ii was
an inquiry into the guilt 'or innocence of a per.
sop, on a charge of High Treason. As to the
Prisoner at the Bar, they were aware, that his ho.
*flour, his fortune, every thing that ,was valuable to
him in life, and even his life itself was at stake.
As it respetted the interests of the Public, nothing
certainly could be more important, since it involv—
ed the question of an attack, immediately and di,
realy against the best interests of the Public, in the
Person of our beloved Sovereign ; and if such a
crime, or a conspiracy to commit it, could be proved
to have existed, it was essential that the punish.
mein of th:::Law should be put in force ; and nothing
could be more wise than what the Law had enaded
for our general defence in that respeCt. He 'was ready
to admit, in'behalf of the Prisoner at the Bar, that a
person charged with a criThe of this nature, ought
to have the full benefit of the principles of the Law,
and that the enormity of the offence, instead of ex-
citing prejudice against the Prisoner at the Bar,
.should induce the Jury to give him the bedefit of
that salutary, indulgent principle of the Law, which
held every man innocent until he was proved to he
guilty ; and therefore the Prisoner would he entitled
to that which he knew he would experience at their
hands, as well as that of the Court, namely, i full
and patient hearing of the whole case, and that the
case.should well,sifted, and 'the Jury well and
perfeetly satisfied of his, guilt before they should
pronounce hirrriao: ' 'But, the Jury wotdd also give
him leave to express a confident expeetatiOn, that
if the charge was made out, there would not be in
their minds (liticause-there ought not to he in their
minds) any hesitation to pronounce him Guilty' of
High Treason, more than there would be in any Other
case of a criminal nature. He then proceeded to
observe, that WWI re,gard, not only 'to. the indivi-
duals who compoe His Majesty's present GoVern,
ment, but to Government 'itself, there_ never' was a
period in which there' was less: danger Allan the pre-
sent, to be apprehended froin any Conspiracy what.
ever, or any period, in Which common human pro.
dence could 4e more allege:4e to' secure us' against
the effedts of such a plan of Conspiracy as that which
was now übuut to be' made the Subjed of inquiry,
and therefore there could be no period in which the
indivithials who compose the Government could be
supposed to have leis feelings of interest in an event
like this, than the present.. There was therefore
nothing but the public interests, and those of the De-
fendant involved in this question, for there was now
no politieal party Whatever concerned ; no clamotir
to be opposed, nor any thing to.be cunsidernd as ac.
tuating the Prosecution, but the purest motives of
Public justice. „It was an issue, which, the Jury
would, of course,' try, not only with impartiality,
but with perfeet calnmess and composure. He there..
fore should proceed to the statement of the case,
with as much brevity as possible ; and in doing so,
he would state to them the nature `of it. The fads
he should recite as simply and as shortly as pos.
table, and his observations- should be made in ti
way, best calculated, according to his judgment, to
bring the minds of the Jury into a due considers-
Lion of the evidefice to be laid before' theth.
The substance of the charge -agalnSt the Prisoner
at the. Bar, 'he observed, as had.been. already stated
to thein, was that of High Treason, in coMpassing
and imagining the,Death of the King, restraint .6f.
his person, and dethroning him front his royal stare
and dignity. . The first part, containing the charge
of intention to destroy or take, away the Lite of
the King, laid in the Indititiient; was founded upon
'the old Statute of the zsth of E;t1w;"41• The se.
coed head, that of imprisoning the7Kang ;' and the
third, of dethroning. hith, and depriving him of the'
royal .stateTanddignety, was founded on amore re-
cent Statute, enacted for 'the purpose of 'removing!
doUtiti concerning High Treason, and by which it:
was enacted, That any attempt to imprison or de.
throne the lti.iug, should be. Considered in the same!
light, as that of compassing and imagining , the
Death of the King, and therefore, it was probable;

there would-be no embarrassment between him and ,
the Learned Gentlemen on the other side, relative
to the point of. Law upon this subjed, for con.
spiting either to imprison or to dethrone the King,
were now made substantive Ads of Treason : If,
therefore, either of these Ads were ptoved
have been committed by the Prisoner at the
Bar, the Jury would have to pro6ounce him
Guilty ; but however criminal the intention of the
Prisoner might be, his guilt must be proved, by
some Overt-ad, clearly expressing the intention of
doing some one or other of those things which he
had already stated, as contained in the Ad • of
Eaiw. 111. or in the modern Statute of the 36th of
the present reign. He then stated the charges of
the. lodiament, the substance of which we have
already given in the opening of it ; and proceeding
to, observe on the nature of the Ovett.ads, he
said, it was not necessary the ad itself should be
completed, but it was sufficient that the aft should
demonstrate the intention of completing the thing ;
he observed also, that an Overt.aft which might in t
itself, appear to be innocent, might be given in evi. •
Bence asproofof a criminal intention, when combined
with another ad, and so an ad, howeverinnocent
in itself, taken abstractedly, might be deemed eri.
minal when explained by others. Gad fotbid, that
the hiring of a boat should • be deemed n crimi-
nal aft, but if a boat be; hired for thepurpose of
Joking 'the person who hired it to France, to invite,
persons there hostilely to come• into this country,•or
toinvade it, then such act, 'combined with subse.
(pent aas, demonitrating such.. intention to
invite Foreigners to invade, this land, will he.
deemed criminal, the hiring- of the boat in such
a case, being a part Of the cc intention
cure a hcistile invasion of this Country,. which was
the 'case of my Lord PaEsTON, who was conyiaed.
Nothing was more innocent than the putting a letter,
in the Post Officee but if it should appear that atteli
letter contained sentimeots tending to excite others,.
to whom it was sent, to Rebellion, the at of put.
ting the leper .in the Post Office,
,being in flint:cr-
' ance of an,intention to create. Rebellion, 'will be
deemed an Overt.nd of Treason, and which was Dr.
Kr NC EY% case, who was convided. So here, there
'was nothing more innocent thineto haveea card, Or
paper, in a man's pocket, for anseman mayita ve cards'
in his pocket, but if, sueli cards contained Gaiters
which tended to excite those who read them to Rebel.
lion, or to seizing ar iniptisoning the persOn of the
King, then, the having such a card was evidence of the
intention of the party, when combined with, other
:IE4 tending, to slew sucloiutetition.' This 'seas' the
case with the Prisoner at the Bare', Hosing' stated
these general observations, 'he should now proceed
to she fads, upon which there would he: two quess
tions for the Jury to 'cousiders and to which the.
evidence was to be applied. The: first eqeestion
was a general one, whether such a Conspiracy as that
stated in the Indiftment existed or not ?—Secondly,.
whether,• supposing' this Conspiteicy t be it;
enee,. •the In so the Bar ttopket;ncztrn,...,,
On the first question, whether a Conspiracy exivrth'
or not, the JuTy must necessarily inquire into' the
ads of others as Well as into ttio,e; of the Prisoner at
the Bar ; because; a Conspiracreotild never be.ear.
ried on without a number ofsindividuals being eon.
cerned in it ; and 'it could not 'be proved but by-
chewing; the condua of those individuals.: But sup.
posing a Conspiracy to be established, and supposing
the: Prisoner to be conneeted in it ; then, not only
his' own ads, but the ads of the other conspirators
would be, evidence againit hini : anti nest's he should
proceed to the fads. He then read the names Of
the thirteeti Prisoners, included' in theintli6rDent,
and observed, that the thirteen PriSotiers, iecluding
the Gentleman ar the Bar, were taken tip pti.the
16th of November last, at 'the Oakley -Anna Pub..
lic,house, where was held, one of the Nleetieots
charged by the Prosecution to bean .Art of High'
Treason. ' He then proteeded toestatesethes reasoos
why, 'although Government had long beep in pus.
session of information ,concerning the conspiracy of
theie persons, they had not caused them to be, alp.
prehended. He obsereSed, that apprehending Omit
sooner might have created -some embarrassment
to Government ; for although, so catty es the
spring-of last year, many ads: were done indicate
ing the same- intentions as' had been after watds
made more manifest ; 'yet, 'hod the parties d',Qu
been taken up, Government might perhaps have
been tinder the necessity'of disclosing the means
of its information, Without perhaps establish.
ing a case which might cunvift all the parties. But
when they were apprehended, the evidence against
them was so clear, that he believed no doubt weiald
he entertained of their guilt, and this evidence would
be sufficient Without bringiog forward thelesources
of information which Government possessed as to
the early intentions of several -of the parties. • He
then recited the con Linet of Several of the Prisoners
as connefted with that of the present Prisoner,
[which' we pass aver because it app:ear in the
Evidence.) He pros cc led to read a paper ilea wits
found in the room 'at the Oakley Arrni, where, the
Prisoner ' was appreheteted, and in posli-sion of
sonic of the Prisoners, though not, of him at the:
bar, as stating the objet of the parties coecerned in
this conspiracy—it set forth. in, substance, that
they aimed at. the. •Constitutional Independance
of Great Britain and Irel,trtd, 'and :.the qua.
lixation of Civii, Political, and Religious Rights:
—an ',ample provision for the famiiics of those he.
'roes who should tall in the contest—a liberal-reward
for distinguished .merit,., Sec. These were the ob..
jeers for
-which we contend, and to obtain those ob.,
jcas, we sweat to be united, tic. -This was the
purport of the Oath, and the Oath was, that :" In
the awful presence of Almighty I, A. B. du
solemnlydeclare, that will ,endeavour to the tit_
most of my power. to .oVtain. the objects of this

Union, naniel*, to recover those rights, which God
in hiS infinite bounty has given to man--and not to
give evidence against any Member of the Associa.
lion, &c," Such was the substance of the Oath.
The ATTORNEY.GRNERAL then proceeded to ob.
serve upon the natnre of this engagement and this
.oath., and argued, that it was impvssible to infer, that
it meant nothing more than an alteration, by peace.
able Means, of any part °four system,-but, that .they
manifested an hostile intention of overturning the
whole frame of our Government. Thi, engagement
and oath, were incapable of any interpretation that
was consistent with the innocence of the parties ;
and that the more especially, when these Oaths had
been administered to Soldiers, sworn to defend the
Government of this Country, as by Law establish.
ed ; and-that these, parties had done so, would most
abundantly appear in evidence ; And. that 'the .Pri-
soner at the Bar had been aftive among them-would
also appear ; that they had held divers meetings to
this effect, at various Public-houses in this Metropo-‘
lis, and its vicinity: at the Hand and in
Windmill,sureet at Bleeding Iltart, i.. fiat t;)ri.
Girden; at ToW,er.Hill, at Whirechapd, at the Fly,'
Wal wtit tk ; at the Flying Horse,l%Tewing,„
ton; an.d.at theo,akley Armi. !nail these places, at.
tempts had been tuiide 'to seduce soldiers from„thrit
duty. Here he recited the circumstances, as they
afterwards appeared, in evidence, of thmic var,om
attempts, until the'period at which the pariies wt:re
apprehended at the,'o4lcley Arms, and on which he
a variety of eciminerits. He then proceek,led
to observe upon some topics, which )se apprehe,nd.
ed the ingenuity of ,the Learned G'•entlernen, tni t!te
other side would, bring forward it, rlciLisicc,. They
w Might say, that it .as highly itopr96o-4-that it
person of the Oltizt:.er and station:of•the Defendant,
should embark in such a cause -as thiity and conriret
himself with persons of the loWest destYriptio7l;
he mast Lye 7aware of the danger to '',AH..s!! •
posed'him, and that he must iiievitabtl,,,
in the courSe of it ; bur, upon, the snhje;zl. c.it pr
babili ties,' t jay should eridez, eutir 'not
how things would, appear to t I.!C InSO
they were likely
.to appear to such a person as d.e
Pri4oner the-44r,.anit to enter as far .as• porsible
into his imaginations; they were to rernember that
entliu.iastn was applicable to many'sithictts, that it
was the charaeler of cnihnsiasin to MagisifY the value
of its objea, ant' the probability .of ,sucCcss in the.'‘
pnrstnit .of it, and to diminish all apparent obstacles
to its COMpleti:3ll; 1114 L 'there politkal as,
well as' rdigi9LlJ enthusiasm, . and that the Pri.
soner'it.the 11.. t ivas a man ”dio bad beerrpreViously
the •subjt:a of rite suspicions of:. the Govern.
nlenF, and' might ptissibly .be irritated, by a miti.
gnided view: Of what he suffered 'in 'con.sequence
of his own indiscretion; that under';iitell impussitins
he might 114 become desperate, and that to a mind
so constituted, things mio.l; appear probable, which
to a jury, in'their sober jadirments, mi,gbr ma.; „
nifestly ;:t1 cid its t!,e t ; arid that chili.
cultiei.
should lippear to him as trifling. r
The nest point to ss hieliifq c,,,ipetfled the Leamerlr
Gentler:l,oton the other side woold. ‘':ill Illy.' ;it metli itkik
of the Jury was, that of chi-credit doe to the %Vi;,i
nesses. -:Finey Might Pay, that ct edit W4s'doe; tem
itecomp!ice. In tbe first place, lie olniervedf(l)4
Of the Wiine;sses wltoin he should 'rail; 'although
present at mony to tile itanWtlQtlS4 W0,14,(1
come tinder the kilt, ut. :;11 at;COMpiice.; hot upon
the, ,uhjoa of credit as accompae; he adlnit.
ted,, tnat an .accomplice -ItouLl be heel
by other:Wifm- :(-,) if h Sttt, :"'lt was. not or
itself there wo vorif.rtattittif
to 'SOC!) eVitiel)(:', not I.lly was," it atfriiistiiiiiC,t blAt it
because Crediol,::,.l o ;Tpreltendedalso,.th:,-. some:de-4.
fah might appear in the char..,':l,Jot %.»ne i 3 tho
Witnesses who vitae accomplices—this was period.
ly natural, for it , was highly_improliable, torn per-
sons, whose pre .191.1' lives not
,st odd by
many vices, could COMO at once to a determination
hiernharking in so criminal'initi despetate imfbnit
as this; and to make up their in:nds to the ;i:t)41.4).:i,
iion of so dreivittli a dced. •

'The iteComi.lll.f.-3 ‘,"'la would be eZ.,;e...1.,a
of only be cotl.firizicd; 4:4E-
firinntion would be'abandant.
of the Prisoner' w on! lead d trettly, to'4rt itifermix
of litis guilt, .10d, wut,?..l, be absolt4.:cly,Xiker,-9411,413,
.with any other inference:v..hatstiCW.,tt'i.;WhAft ).14104(1,
pined the Iroc4ediriks of the conspirators, that. the
Prisoner was pieseqt• at all their 'prOceirdlli'irit'a4Alio.
anted 'in them, it would remain for the. Counseiven
the other sick': to she w, why the Prisoner
and how h could be innocently preset; t.---11
sone/ could not satisfy the Jury upon 'that
point, theiocvitable inference would be, that he'wkis
guilty. He copcluded with observing, that the Prlion.
er at the 131i''W'iluld have the full benefit of the Law
of England, administered by English judges ,and by
an English jury, 'in a manner superior to any oiler
Law in any Othcr parr of the world. If it were'
possible to suppose.. tnAtteeAtugs: cotnunssiou to
the Prisoner, cold' it the jury to acgoit hint,
notwithktanding'clear ploOf hiS g tilt should be pry.
•duced, such a velditt wc:tild.be One nOt.
only 1?e a tr:inicest breach of their dtify, 'butonc
whielt,the PoHie wouldhavea°l4ght t4,7,prc/.
test and exclaim ; not that he had any, apprelterraiort
of such'an e'veue in this case ; on tire contrarly.he
was confident, the Jury' would Ahdystich
'O4
as the justice tho case demanticti,n,tie,woulknott
occupy any more of tlieir,tiritC, I,l4t,ptocccd to t 1(,..
his. Witnesses. .
yap/ Stafford, Prace C/erk, ital„c
examined 1U.4 So t.i`cz r o'4 G cbtl;ll.‘ L.-011 Ttle4d4
sOth Nor ember last, 1 WiiihrcOctt by the Matt4trattu to so
to the Oaklci Arms, in the Parish or St. M4tY,'Lainbtati.
I went about o'clock in the evetitog, with San I+,4iiv
and 1.1oi4; two Ottle4,,rt, met a hyge -body t.vt
Dow.sttoot,: Police Oit'kers, sent
,by fit RiC,h4ol,

'Charles Bacon and John. Rivett Welt two of the Officers I
met. We went together to the Oekley ;Anus; Mr. Lloyd,
the ‘)ificer, attendctt with a party in a room below stairs;
John Itivett, John May, and myself, ran to the cluh-room
one pair of stairs; there Were thirty persons assembled,
among whom Were Thus. Phillips, Win. Lander, -John Lau.
clop, john Doyle, lolin Wood, Thos. Newman, James Stk.
wick Itatten, Deniel Tyndall, Samuel Smith, Thos. Brough-
ton, John ketiblin, folin Connell, and Edward Marcus Des-
/met They ell appeared, except Colonel Deepard, to be
working inert—Some were soldiers. lohn,Efancis Wood and
Necettrait had not their regimentals on. Upon going low the
room I made towards the top, and ordered them all to keep
their seats.. I desired the officers to search them, and upon
Thutrias.Phillips I saw May find a . paper, the Paper was
produced to the Witness, who ideutifiedit ; it was the same.
referred so hi 'the Attorney-General's speech.; Upon that
Paper being taker titan Phillips, patrols: said t sere was one
who would not be searched. I went to the middle cif the
room td the person who hadrefused to be searched. Itivett
said it was Colonel Despatch He desired to see the warrant,
. and it was shewn to him. We proceeded to search COionel
Despard ; he seemed' isu We searched him minutely,
but found nothing. He had a green umbrella in his hand.
1 saw-another paper in the hands of the patrole, hut 1 did
not see where it came- froM They were all taken into
ctietody. I continued at the Oakley Arms, till they were all
sent to a place of security. Before they were all gone, a per-
son came to the house, who turned out to be Thomas Wind.
stir. 1 was in the tap-room. The man by his dress looked
like a labouring bricklayer ; he called for a pint of beer and
a pipe., I had a long conversation with hint. I took down his
name and place of residence, and desired hint to call at Union
Hall the next day. Ile told me he was a bricklayer bybusiness,
and a. soldier in the Guards. He attended at Union Ilan.
He was examined and produced another Paper! [this Paper
was produced to the Witness ; it was a copy at ttie former.]
Ile said he knew Colonel Dcapard, James Sedgwiek Batten,
lobo Francis, john Wood, and it was then Wood admitted
himself to be a soldier. (oho Francis, who had described
Itimsellese eltoemaker, also adi [tined he was a soldier in Col.
Lambett'S 'Cienpany of the Cuardr. Wiielsor said he also
knew E 'ohne and Samuel Smith. The Prieonere were seve.
rally committed. I think it was that very day (Tuesday 16th)
time Ilan:Montt met. It was the next Tuesday the King went
to meet his Parliament.
[Time paper found on John Francis was Yeaci in Evidence.)
• Cbarkt 'Bacon, exambled by .So jeeps Susrusan—l am
•one en the detrales belonging to Bow-street. I wad present
with Mr. Seattiod at the Oakley Arms, where I saw•the Pri.
soiten, ; there was not any other person, except the 'Prisoner,
dressed like a Gentleman. I searched Thomas 13rougliton.
I found three printed papers up,an him, [the papers were
produced, they were the fiante as the one just read.). I saw
COI. Pespard in the room. He addressed Mullett to the
eomeony, suet wattled to know, why he was detained there ?
They AU ,itunind up, and Col. De:fp-4rd keetit towartle the door
'nod exclaimed, one and all follow me. I took care of the per-
' son I had ; the other Officers wetecidled up, aftd *cured all
the people.
yobis am one of the police constables of this
county. On the 16th November, I went to the Oakley Arms.
went up stairs with Mr. Stallerd, we found thirty persons.
I searched one alias laCiteell ; in his left-hand pocket
I found one ante papers produced. I knew Col. ,Despard ;
he was in the roam when I went there. The several persons
mooed ie theinclitiment, were there.
Deetee.—l am a police ecostable. I went to the
Oakley Antis, in NOVellther last. There were twenty-eight
or twenty.itine there. I searched a man, of • the name of
MlCitay. 1 observed an officer pick up a paper from the
ground, exaelly uuderthe leench where the person had been
Santee Harmer gaVe me the paper. It was reduced: its
contents were the gentiles the one already Stateti
• Itinner, of the how-street officers.--.I attended
at the Oakley Arms on the ibth November. I found a paper
under the bench, where the man I was seurchiog was sitting.
I gave it to. Samuel Demon.
"chi: Rhvit, one of the constables at Bow-street.—l was
preeenteit the Oakley Arms.. I was the Ara or second who
went up. 'After I had been in time room five miltutes, I saw
Coliinel Deep*. j had known flint before.
'4oores lfrindsor, exoniined ty Mr. C A 1: Ow.- I am a pri•.
vats soldier in the grenadier c rnpany of the first battalion of
the Guards. I know Colonel Peepard and John Francis.
I was with my regiment in March last at Chethein. I, soon
after the regiment returned to tokern, received some piinted
papers from john Francis. I delivered them to Mr. Iloweas
of the Traesport Office.. I communicated to him under what
cireuinstaeceed hail received them. 1 left one with hint. I
:received Advice from him as to the subjea-matter of them.
Friiiels"titivised noes to unite ourselves, and overturn the pre-
sent ty sytitent of govemMerit -to mute ourselves in,
(IMO:fent eprnpaliies, and get arms. John Francis applied to
Thomas Blades attic same company. These was 14 rllCet.
ing at a tsuhlic house in St.Giles's. Upon the deli k ery
ot Inc cents, Francis otlered a printed card or affidavit, simi-
lar to the one I had given to Bownas'; he told me to road it
told kiss it. l read- the oath to myself., and then I kissed the
earth I know' that is the usual mode of swearing in the
holdiere. • If the •persou sworn lit canitot read, the person
who brings Min reads it for him. It was about a week after
he gave mire t woCelds, t' distribute, as I was a person capable
of 4;omin:totting a company. The name of the public haute
in St. tiiies'a is the Brown Bear; they used to meet at the
Kt trinine IlarliC;. generally train sixteen to twenty met ; they
wore pnntapatly !nehmen, of the lower class ; the meetings
Were onee a week. John M'Nantara, who we eall.el Alt. Mac,
proposed t hat vv slum Id change the houses, to avoid detettion.
leis advice werfollowed: I attended tneetinge at the Bisecting
Heart. John Eraneisattendett them. Thos. Broughton accom-
panied us: to one; Montt es attended. The object was to unite
uursel yes, to raise Subecriptioite, to pay Delegates to go into
the Country, and to pay the expenses of printing Affidavits.
The principal object was to overturn the Government, and
destroy the !Opt Family. There were ten men in each Cont.
Lany; and the eleventh, if he bed raised,thein, 'was the Cap.
ain. He was called the Captain of ten.. The Society was
thVlded int U,ivisions. There was aDi vi sion in the ilurough,
Thiarybotiel Spitalfields, and tor Blackve all and upwaras,
lib'eltieerteaptitin of fifty took the command. He was calf.
edthe Colonel of rase suleelivision or Company. rulin Fran.
ci!i anti M`Narnara told me, they shuold appoint me Colonel
ei the Borough They Callcd themselves Colonels un-
ti.:'r ilea head Col. or Comnieinier in Chief. I know the Spread
P.:e.je, in Millelaite was a p1:4.-e meeting. I know I. S. (tat.
'4'llc meeting ef the Beek wall Division was tor pet:,o,po,
het oni;ing to the'Nay y, and these who had been ttSket to the
exereise Of gnat gurts. ,katteetcalled Itinteelle Colonel. 1
Lnow the lloop dad Rant ite the Mint; it is where !fatten
holds his division. I know the Oakley Anna. I have at.
tended tlicto upon Braughtbine summone, about seven or
eight weeks lychee I gave lumpy evidence :it was rim a Shit.
dry I met 'Arthur C;reltage, arid about • h4l t a dozen
-s tore. Nothing frarticulauevetCdone. On the oth November
them wits attiecting at thvt.l4l4ey .Arias.. It was on Tuesday,
the Lard lita_Yox's dey the petit was almost .fOl,l there
,were abotit thirty,' I had. heen at a ITlCetifig at the Ram and
IWitidlnill;'wtterillrouslitton told Inc they had received about
4006(1:f to poyiiip,clee.4.gatee going
sto the country, and for
pcintiog the mulls. There were about sixteen persons pro-
. mo' at the.ktinil'they'kSete enceureging •eiteli other to take
t:Elris, arid get as inanyavcruits as they could .--•M'Nantera
W 44 present. .The dcleg4;46. were to take the papers iiito the
cf)!lntry to be distribiltief. These who took carts paid ts. for
them . I renumber ii meeting at the Hoop ;tied !tam about a tort-
night or three weeka before: Lord Ma yore flay ; die same plan
was pursued: Beettelitoin.Wood,atel M‘G ray writ:there, anti
Ratted waS'in'the'Cluitr. '-I,know the Brit erower-street.
I wasairdeted to enc.:lid:bra it heingduriogsevenine service,
14- 41)0144 WOO liqt;det 142 in, We went tunic Cameo),
or Stoneekiteheit,ati elle Tower; that was on 3 Stitiday about
eight weeksebefor hbe rti'Mayor's Day„ Witte they tirst met
'oft therwere ahent thirty, but they dibperwil,
.:oluirl.only about t.ltirteeit went into the Tower. were
4)
flanning 'that sumo should go to Woolwich, to the tt,'arren,
no try It tlitY-Cotilde'isrit get softie or ow. people thew.
to
, smite with. Acme. L. I reinerAber a • tneetinK, the friday
alter Lortiileyore.Day,, I was work 4 O. 16, W,:st.:
eoteate. rottglnoti called 'titbit Me ;`he raid, it Wind:Ark,
- teak, with me to the lying florse,e at 'Newington; • I
e. will introfltter.: voit ;too gull d etinipany.?" I told hint
c0;141 not rieglo hysiness, I had a- Wife etel Amity
to •Maintain ; ,
Daitin yott, yOu Must' nigloet
stout ,hi;•inetib,';kttegie4.l;, mine." went him, 1, re.
.rmApptio ific cap, Broughton sairi, .4 don't stop there, come
. alonx."'ltound a gentleman in tii2 whir called him_
tobttel D 60.1. ..I;roughtvii said; that' la Coloaal
lo„ra.; milk myLohediettee to !dote:end wok my seat. Air.
t,blia woe risen, , end Samuel Shoitheend A rthurtirraharie
' Cialetin aifitChitmet Pet 0.-trd till into coriVersation for irytric '
Minutes, and then E addle. I did 00( hmnsr what paeeee.......
e.:(; rahatrollf4eil a piece of nioncy to CeteDespertlewhir:fi
terilsed. and Oleo seid, Y</l1 511/111 laeltbMtthing to drink,
tied theft ordered • is. worth of brandy and water. I heard
mhli it ohm ervs- to Colonel Deepen', that there ought to be a,
regular orgaeizictien ism London. Despard said, Nci-; a regular.
•argenizatiott in • W4s dangerous, a4it WAS under the
„eye ef,COveriinserit, but a regular orgenization in•the Country
Was neeessafee and Ite " believed &Ilea; * 'mid 'the:
peopi:.; c,Lry whew ripe arid enxione kir the hlolllelll of
attack, and I believe this ty be the modient, particulerly at
Leeds, llirmilsAhain, and every telpital town in
I.rigiand, I, have, sa4.l Colonel Deipard, Walked twenty j

miles toeday e and the gee/46.'4re oat 11$01(tipe, e% here
I have been. He said the aura vaso be made on the day
Ilis'Majesty went to the House; and His Majesty must he
put to death, and the Mail coeches were to be stopped as
signal to the people in the.country that they had revolted in
town. After this conversation, " Wileisor,.(says he) Wood has
'mentioned you to me. I shall be glad it yet: will meet me
on Motaley morning on Tewer-hill, at Ralf-past eleven
o'clock, and bring with you four or rive intelligent man,_ to
consult on the beet method of taking, the Tower, and secur-
ing the arms." 1 promised to meet him. In the course of
that meeting, he said, I have weighed the matter well, and
my heart is'callous: I believe he said this after he said elle
people were ripe. I promised to meet Into, and bring the
intelligent persons he required. • The servant girl came into
the roam, and Eniblin gave her 3d. saying, 1 will kiss you
When I come again. I might have staid there about an hour
'and a half. Upon the Monday 1 met Colonel Uespard at
the Tyger on Tower-hill. I took Winterbottom, a Soldier ot
the saute Company, with me. was there exactly at the time
appointed, and the Colonel came about five minutes before
twelve.--When he came in, I met Winterbottom were in the
tap-room. Colonel Despard made a motion, and 1 went
out. He said, are those people helonaing to us .1 There were
four or five in the taproritn.. I said, Yes. lie said, hid
them tonne with me. I replied, there is only one I can de-
pend upon, and that is Winterbottom, Ile said, as you are
myour regimentals, and well known, do you take one direc-
tion ami.l another, and meet me at Whitechapel-church. I
returned to Winterbottom, and went with him according to
appointment. The Colonel walked gently before us till we
came to Whitechapel-church. He pointed to a public.
house; the Two Bells, and said I will find a man who will
glee tile informatites respecting Lynch.. He asked me if I
had got money ? I told him I had ; I remained there about
half an hour before he 'returned : he brought a man of the
name of Heron, a discharged Soldier. At the Hying Horse,
the Colonel had desired me toinquire for Lynch, who might
he trusted. with any secret. Ile beckoned the out of the
publio-house, and 'we walked up and down Brick-lane;
and during that time, Windsor said "we are deceived as
to the number of arms in the Beek ; there are but six
hundred, and they have taken the hammers off to ren-
der them useless, eo they must have been apprized of
our intention." We went to the Coach and Horses in
1V hitechapel, and had two pots of porter and some bread ant
cheese. The Colonel said, Windsor, do you know those
two Soldiers at-the top of the table ? I said I knew sheen by
sight ; he said he believed they were two of us. Ile said,
" Windsor, Hie Majesty must he put to death, and the people
will be at liberty he afterwards invited the Soldiers to eat
and drink, but they refused. He said he would make the
attack himself the day His Majesty went to the House, it he
could get no assistance front this Side of the, Water. lie,
should make the attack with what forces lie had from
Blackwell, %Vl;itechapel, and the other Divisions in Middle.
sex. 1; was then understood that the 29th of November
was the day His Majesty was to Meet ParliaMent. There
was, however, a new appointment ; he asked me ill would
meet hint at the Oakley Arms, on Wednesday, with eight or
ten intelligent men, to consult on the best method of attack-
ing the' Power, and getting the arms. I told him if he would
conic forward at the different Divisions and shew the people
there was such ..man at the head of them, they would he
satisfied. Colonel Despard paid tin the refreshment we had,
end we then parted about a quarter before two. In .the
course of the same day, I saw Ratten and Wood : Weisel
bald he would post himself sentry over the great-gun in the
Park, load it, and fire it at His Majesty's carriage as he
passed it to go to the House. He might in the course of
duty be on that Guard.
I went to the Oakley Arms on th 16th November, I ar-
rived there about nine o'clock. I found the Officers were
in possession when I went there; I went into the Tap,.
,room ; I had a pint of
.porter I saw Mr. Stafford, introduced
tile.eanversidiOn to hits, and told him whirl was. I com-
municated to him that I was acquainted with circumstances
relating to Out night's business. He told me to.be at Union
Hall, :I quarter before eleven o'clock. I never saw r Emblin
believe and was introduced to Colonel Despard. The Wit.
ness produced a card similar to the one he had left with Mr.
liownas. .
Ci'orr-eicamined by Mr. B e ST. —I have been a Soldier eleven
yew's; 1 ant twenty-five years old last October. 1 belonged
to this Conspiracy aout six weeks after I came from
Chatham. iolm Francis swore Blades in., 1 was at the
Oakley Arms, on the Wit. I took a man with me of the
name of Mayhate who said he had been united in Ireland.
I might have invited people who had not attended before
to make then believe they were part of the Conspirators, ter
my own safety,
William Vrivnat (examined hy Mr. Common SCAJBANT.
--t.am en Army Agent in Derby street, I believe 1 hati
the card produced lett me by Windsor. 1 gave hint advice as
ro his conduct. It was about July last
Wirnam Camplell (examined 1y Mr. W am a Sol-
dier in the Guants„ stationed in the Tower. 1 know the
Coach-and-Horses in Whitechapel. Was there with Charles
Dean, on the isth of November. We sat in the box homing
the fire. I remember tour persons coming in, two Seldiers
anti two others, in coloured clothes. One was better dressed
than the other, and lied an umbrella lit his halal. The MO
Soldiers were Windsor and Winterbottoin. They were dis-
coursing together, but 1 did nut hear what they oral, They
asked the Landlord ilthey could have some bread and cheese;
and be saki lie did not keep any, but they might buy soure a
few doors further. We Were asked if we would have any
bread and cheese; but we told them we had just dined. The
other nom in coloured clothes asked• alter several men loom.
Regiment. The two Soldiers 'went up towards the Tower,
and the other two down Whirechapel.
Charier Dean (examined 4,t. Mr. 1, tittintu o.l—l. um a Sol-
dier in the G rends. I remember being at the Coach-and.
llorsai, %Vide:chapel, on the esti* November. I and Camp-
bell were sitting by. the tire. I know Winterbottoni and
Windsor; they came in with the Prisoner and another.
.7srepbiVatker (exanlined 4y Mr. ABBOTT.)--4 keep the
Coach-end-Horses, at High-street, Whiteehepel. Camp-
bell and Dean were quartered there. I was in my cellar.
When 1 came upstairs 1 saw two Gentlemen decently dress.
ed drinking a put of porter. 'They asked if they could, have
bread and Client. said they could not. Windsor was one
attic two. While they were drinking, Dean and the other
Soldier came from the Tower,: where they had been On duty.
Thomae Wade, (examined ,y Mr, Svieamt tsar ii eeD.)--1
ant a Private Soldier in the lust Regiment of Foot GuardS.
I know I che Francis, I remember a conversation with him
in the presence of:Windsor. •He said a number of free and
independent Gentlemen had established themselves, to form
an indxpendent Constitution, for the old one was much
`broken. Thatthe Gentlemen who had established theta.
selves were determined tottsk their lives and formers to form
a new and independent Constitution, They desired me to
take an Oath to join theni. No Oath was produced at that
conversation. The Sunday following Iliad another convert.
sation with (ohs Francis. Windsor was along with Joe at
some part of it. A card was produced to me by halm Fran-
cis. 1 read it. I can't recollect the whole of it. It %yes
to this-e." We do sweet to unite ourselves." We
swore in the presence or Almighty Cod to get those rights
we took the oath to obtain. I kiesed the crud. John Fran.
cis told me to do so. This passed upon the Parade. We
then event to the Ham and Windmill, in Windmill-street.
I was there the letter end of June, on the night the balloon
went up from Lord's Cricket.ground. I went there With •
William Francis; John Francis afterwardi joined us, with ti ,
Man of the name of Connelly, and M'Nelnara there were
wile MOM persons, whose names I do.not know. lal'Na.
Mara eadtessed the compeny, suet said he Caine from the
Executive. He exhorted them to stick together, and arm
themselves, so as: to make head against Government. Ile
said Ale had full power to apoint Colonel to coin-
mend the First Iteeencnt of National Guards ,•' he ap—
poilited John Francis, :and authorited him to appoint
three more, arid likewise an Officer of Artillery. Al,Na.
mare deeinal lie would appoint the °there without partia.
lite. He appointed me as one, Connelly another, and a
little roan, whose mine I do not know, to be Captain of At.
Waxy, beceuee he was used to the great guns. John Francis
and the little man went out together. John Francis Cattle
back ; he had a paper in his hand ; there was wrote upon
it, '' First Regiment of National Guards," and an appoint-
ment of Colonels to command the Regiment. There was
one of the men seid'eomething ahottteommissions, but al‘Na-
Marie said, that tiring• out Commissions would he signing,
their dcatio.werrants. He said Ulu Officers should receive'
their conunlseions the night before the attack. ' The nextf
time I saw John Francis was the 6th of September. I was,
on the main guard at the Tower. The rnext after that was
the lath, the Sunday; he carne to me At the Stone Kitchen;
in the Tower. On the Monday 'fallowing, I was at the:
Bleeding Heart, Where 1 saw Lloyd, Wood, Tyndall, Pon-i
drile leltNantare, and Winterbottern., There were severalf
other persons with them. Ratten spoke up. Ile said het
had coma front the Islorough whin Tyndall, to know the rte.!
terinination (lithe Elm:Wive as to when the attack was to
take place. They said it would have been *porter, if it had
not been for two or. three cowards : but it should lose no-
thing on. his pant; he could bring we =flint° the field at
any time. Ile said it he saw any;:.rnau.aSintile, __tine: least
symptoms orcowurdice he would blow hit btains out. jolm
Urattelß Sat,' it would be better to make the attack as sours as
possible, et least before the den of thieves met, a term by
which he irtearit tho Parliameltt. tie said; if they discover.

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ea our plan, they wentid enaa suelpt aw qts would prevent
the possibility of meetingagain. •Vende esaid it could not
bappee : be had belonged. many years to.;
,e Society ;. many
had been taken up, and net divulged the usiness. If any
man did divulge it, he should have a dad& in his breast di-
li
• redly. Wood said, if he should not be there at the grand
attack, he should be where he would be 'equally useful. He
said ammunition would be provided. M'Namara and Pen-
dia both used .the wora Executife, but it appeared to me
Tendril was die of the Executive.. Ofe'Siimitrarrthet With
John Francis, and he asked me to go with him to 'rooky-
, street, 'to the Black Raven. I did so. There was Batten,
'I yndall, Wood, NPNatnara, anctsix or overt Irishmen, in
astute of intoxication. There were about twelve or thir-
teen. We hattsimilar conversations: The conversation, we
• had was concerning the form of GoVernment. 1 reMerriber
being at the Oakley Arms, on Tuesday the 9th of Novem-
ber. I was going from East Sinithtichi, Wand. 1 met Brougek:
tun. who told me there was to be a meeting prier to the at-
tack. He told me the heads of,the people would be there to
settle it. I went into the tap-room, and called for.a pint-6f
beer and a pipe ofthbaceo. I asked the Landlord if he knew
a person of the name of Broughton.„lie,sent a boy up tot
him. Broughton came down, and took my pint Of beer, and
as we were going up stairs, he said the Colonel is,-there. 1
went-into time room. and a Gentleman presented me with a
shilling's worth of runt and water to drink round.. It was
Colonel Despard. The way I became acquainted with him
• was this : Wood said, the people who are come to settle the
business should retire to one end of the room, and those who,
came to4hew theiegood.will should go to the other end.
'They were called Representatives from diltbrent Divisions.
tto men who came to shew their. good-will: retired to-that
end where there was no fire. Colonel Despard sat at .the
table nearest the tire. I did pot hear what passed among
' those who were at the tire.- 1 conversed with Broughtote,
He said, there is the Colonel ; diclyou ever seq. him before
I said, No. He said, he is a very tine man. •' I asked if he,
was fluent of tongue ? He said, yes, he was. Wood said,
the properest place to attack His Majesty would be between.
the priVate gate at . St. James's Palace and :Buckioeharn
House, as the Life-Guanis Would have left him. Ilrougli-
ton said, at the same time the Parliament [louse must-be at:..
tacked, and after that hie away to the Tower. 1 never af-
terwards saw Colonel Despard, ut any of the others, till
they were taken up.
00n-examined by Mr. GURNEY.--I have been a Soldier
nine
years and tour months. , Ihave been punished. twice.
1 have been tried three times by Courts-Martial : once for
absenting myself, or deserting. - I never was charged with
any theft, or brought to a bar. 'I never had any charge made
' of any theft.. 1 know a person of the name of Tibbetts. I
worked for hint' and some leather was 16st. He said I had
made. away with it. With regard to that leather, 'l. paid
Mr. Tibbetts for it. In absenting myself from the Regi.
ment, I contrived to get 2ao miles u 11:
Ile-examined.--I was forgiven, and have served since twice
on the Continent.
William Francis examinef hy, Mr, P Lnstitit i 7-4 belong tq
•, the First Battalion of Foot Guards. I have been. two years
in the Army. 1 know of a `practice to swear Soldiers. 'I
have been applied. to by, the Prisoner Despard, .at tint time.
It was on Bartholomew fair-day. ' .1 had been applied ,to.by
Wood and John Francis, my brother', to be sworn to their
intentions against the King . and Coverhment. 'Cardi were
produced. What I understood was, that the oath hound us.'
to overthrow the Government, and kilt the Royal. Famoily-,---.
so help the God ! They proposed to me to kiss' it ; but 1'
never did. [The' Witness was shown the Cards'ead Bills,
and identified them]. Colonel Despard asleed me What were
my principles as to the .Cause guillg rorth rrsin4qli.; ;11'4 tale:
hug the Tower that day. I told him i did not approve of it.
He said nothing was to be dime on that day; .tbr he expected.
money and news from France, The people, on TOwer-hill •
dispersed,. because 'the plan could not be carried'iuto elled.
John Francis said they could do nothing that (Lk. It
was at the Public-house Colonel Despard tirstproposed to
swear me. lie read over the Oath. I law him .atterwards
at the Bleeding-Heart. bolus Francis, my Brother, Weed,-
M‘Namara, and nviny others were there. . The Paper was''
?cad over containing the Plan for taking •the Bank, Tower,
and I lorsie.o trards. • He read over,the same,Paper iii the cur,.
ner of the Room, and deSited 'tne to kiss it. lit Said he
-hoped my principles were mewled. I did not comply,' -Ile ,
Said it was very odd my principles Were 'not thesatne as my
Brother's. '1 he Sunday after the Guards came troni Wind-
sor, I was at the Coach-and-Horses.' 'F raneis was there, with
M'lsilatnara, , Wood, Newman, 'and many ' other,. ..'That .
Meeting wasconcerning a Paper Ratted brought from Windt
sor, respecting the plans of Government. They drew 'their'
bayonets,' and wished to • have . the' Plan Carried into ettedt.
They went •to the. ' Flying Horse to.', settle' the Business..
M.Namara said he expected to find Colonet I.)e4pard. We"
dretv our bayonets as before. M,Namara said lie would
convey pur -desires to . the 'Crand• Cenanittce. ' It Might
be a- week-before I. saw • 'Colonel'-Despard. -We 'had .one
shilling's worth of gin- aid water: at :the Running-Horse,
Totrenhatn-court-road. ' The Prisoner handed a small 'card.
wishing I would kiss it. 1. said, tio.e I had been sworn
once to be true to my King and Country, and 1 never would
be sworn, again. . .
- • '
Owls-examined .Ay Mr. Serjeant liist;',--“ I have' been a.
Soldier two years. Never .got a Bagging, or 'was triad' by a
Court-Martial. I did desert, if you can call it . so. I was
not 24 hours from one 11:IttaliOn' till 1 returned: I canna from'
Chatham with'a person of the name of Cassel. • A corporal
and two 'privates were sent after us. Cassel had" some
watches, one of which he pawned at Chatham. my brother
never charged me with robbing him." ' '
Re-examined.—Cassel was
,a,watch-Maker by trade. When
I emu: to town I Voluntarily gave myaellup, and told where
the watches had been pawned, and 1 was forgiven.
Partitk Conn til was next sworn.
Mr. Serjeant 13IST objeCted to iiiii giving' evidence, 'as in
the notice to tilt:Prisoner of his being -a Witness on the part
of the Crown, he had 'been stiledelonat Connell. It ap,
peared,.that when he was taken up at the Oakley Arms, he
had, by the desire of Colonel Dqapard, said his naind.was
jowl:

AT roarriv,Gegiant,--" fi had rather we phould ,not
have oie benefit or this. Witness's evidence, than that there
Should be any doubt tipim thegubjeet."
Lord Et.t.t:N Rollo Linn .--P4.',This:is very handsome con.
duet on the part of the Attorney General ; but wh ien t ap-
pears a false christian name has been issitineel, at the instance
of the Prisoner himself, .fat -the 'purpose of a fraud, he has
no right. to avail hintsellof the.ooicttion."
The Witness was then put aside..

:7;6.7 Xrrd(e Air. p It a a oNy.
.know a person
ot name of John Francis I remember his coming to Inc
at my lodgings at New IVinilsor. He asked Inc who J Work.
ea Jur. I told him Mr. Grant. sake toe who he, worked
for. .1 told:hint, the Royal family. lie he would Ere
bound for it lie vas a i,rafj'.villaTh. He 'cattle again it was
the beginning'olAuglist. lie told me the' King. woirlil be de.
throned ; and he also told roe how the next Parliadientwas
to be raised. Every Parish was to form Itself into a Continittee
of t 4, and then iiito a Committee or sev.:ll ; and one out, al the
•Seven was to come into :Parliament. lie , asked, Inc about
Wirlsor-Castle, and what kind or it placeit was. • I rtold,lom
I did not, know. I only had been the
the Cathedral. lie asked. me what plate -there. Was ; anti
,whether it was sailer, orgold. 1 (lid not know, He giive me
a card. I read it; andptlercd ft itim'again. He would o)t tide
it, and danin'ed rity nonl, and (fesired' toe to kiss the besok..:—
I put it to my bead;;;thert thre,,v it to him, and it tell down.
.TliJeard proateed rs the sante in substance. He asked me to
let hiin leave a book at my 10411)Es. Hr said it was one he
did not like-to leitt,e'ut the I).4lr:it:kb. -He alibied inelS. or
34.• 6d. to come to' London, and 201. the day 1 should -be
„called .upon 40 44.4‘. When basked him to .what purpose,
he Said, to light, and break the of bondage :.11;1 stai,i&ry,
79/m Pike (ixamind by Al r. (.; A ita 0 W 4-- ant ;1 soldier tit
the Guards, ,1E kijow one Wood. . lie shelved inc card,
and said, Will, you agree to this, and abide by it 1" It'
W 34
in size jilt told me-there were upwards of one'
battalion of the Third, oirtr, in the Tower, that had already
'engaged in the Constitutienal Society, soil about thirty of the
Fiwt
,Upon .corning to town trout Windsor, I saw Nyood
and Francis. They proposed to toe to go to the Ifam and
Windmill, as it: should cost me nothing .! It was the second
Sutulay.atter the battalion came Ithrly W,illliSor• • I s;it in the'
tap—roOrrt, but afterwards went up stairs, :not' fthitid about
eighteen soldiers-, and three-Melt in coloured clothes.' They '
were drinking, and the toast was', " May the wings of liberty
'never want a feather,''which. was drank iby the..compatty.
Wood iaid, w,ttrtt the witni...ss returned thecaid'at.Windsor,
" The King 104 t he pia to death:" 'There -were, present,
Francis; tVirtgandslewman, KehertsPlii Ma.YhalLig, too
mgriy others. :14411 Francis told ine, when we-r
to
London, he should, receive 3s: 6d. a day. I haw them tince al-
terwarde, nt 4110-131e.c.ding Heart, Chaties.street, - Matron.
garden. ,Franois.and Wood were both there.

. ,
Cren aXallinc-dhy Mr. GUkNtY,-;--I have beenasnluiet two'
years 11110 OMR months. I have been punidird. I
100 lashes tor absenting myself tiom my pear.
Rohr! notlinsor (tiamimed by Mr. CommotrSstt 3 r AnT ).i
—4 am a +whiter in' the Quards. second Sunday td!er If
returncd frow Windsor, I was at tne Hain arid Wrndwill
there were about liitty soldiers.' Thq Were • drink
M`Namara asked ine, ir I would be sworn in ? I asked " for
what ?" He said. " free and easy ; to overthrow the present
Goveruraent, and have the same as France.s, They asked me

0 come again on the Wodnea,lay following, but 1 told thenli
L should be on duty that day. .
, yeior /Wear, a soldier, deposed, that he had attended a
meeting at the Ham and Windmill. It was on a SendaY.
As 1i was coming away, somebody tapped hint on the
shoulder, and asked thin to sign the oath.
Peter Pollard, a soldier, said, he went to the Oakley Arms.
Daniel Tyndall, a carpenter, with whom be worked, desired
me to go there. It was the toth of November last. ,
"ifthe.Emblit.(exanthted-iy.44 r. •G A* *ow). —.l-anietwatcn
maker, at Vatieliall. I was. found at the Oakley Antis, when
the Prisoners were apprehended. 1 was first informed or the
meetings by Lander, about three weeks before. .He asked
me ffilialtheerd anylieses': -1' terlditint I . had not. lie said:
••; something very particular wgs on the carpet. He asked nit
. I had heard et-any Society. I bid l thought they were
-•-
all over. Ile said there was _a party forming stronger tlaut
ever, and that they, looked up, to. Colonel I)espard as their
lied. It woe' On, a Sunday when I saw Broughton. :1 tits
talking to Lawler, and Brotteliton
,carne up. I objetted to
tiolt p
canca me 4
latiofover,t,ttarlietriiiig lißieroptrittesisewil flew iiinfGovthrtt ament, what B lreogl7
Pe
' they were sure ot success. Ile epp,;::at to rate: to apart ..:
of the Society. I told hire. I would not ; that I had my
I readwife one of
anda'nttitlhcitih.otake care of.. 14e, produced papers to fife.
' to know their friends. 11.i.ch4ei.'yltatidil,CYwhe.eiriettles aatStaifilrtiaQsrmtlairei ' '
all who Were not of their principles would be put to death.
On fridaYi. the taut November, 1.. remember being at 'the
Queen's Arins,,Vauxtudt.. .Greham : was there wall nie•
Brougthon came and tapped Crahem on the shoulder. Ite -
came, to inc and drank with ;tie, and inked Me to go to' thr
. Flying Horse • said there. would be spelt a iiiee mane
should be delighted with _Nip.. I liked who it Wu, ..
and he said it was Colonel lcspard. He said the dal
Waa fixed for the attack to be made, when the KingWeoc
to the House.. " The King," said he, " will be
.srOP-,
ped as he goes to the blouse, and the business Will be set- •
tied." 1 believe he said ie Tower would be bath...a'
Broughton - said he must . go, beeause the Colonel .WAS $0
OunCttral., Ile took Graham out. I made a pretence_ to go ..
out, and I heard Broughton perstiading Graham to O.
Broughton went away. Graham said he would be there inert
hour, and I promised to go. He said I did not think of thoe •
principles. I said no' inure; but I had a mind to go to Sat
the hninour of the bus:tieas. I went to the l lying Hors;
~
and found Despard, Brouglittire'Winsean, end South. Winda •
sor was there before I went in. I town! them engaged in' ' '
Conversation. Broughton desired us. to sit down. Grateen
sat Colonel Deepard, and I set by him: Windsor was
speaking tif tlie form of passing the Keys at the Tower. 110
said, that the, practice had been fur the Constable when fie, •
passed the Keys, to aay„ " true{save itae'King and Queen,
'•
for the Sentinel to ray "-:media"tlitit this ceremony bed
been omitted for three >Necks. I arked Jirougliton who C""
loud! Despard was ? Broughton told ite, I male ell ,l''' •
logy to Colonel Despard ; I had ilea the pleasure ot l‘itewing
him, 'but( had read of liiinlii 'eke Cambridge Paper. Tll-
conversation was about the WetaDoeks, anti the Iriirdilql)."'
employing'Solibers to do duty there. I asked Col. Despard;
‘vhether :Lily particular basincesawas in hand, and What her
thought ot it ? His answer was'' nothing; only rt seemed the '
wish ofa great many people, that an eilOrt should be made ill ~,
Tuesday next, tureeuver some ot thUse liberties IVL had lost.'
I asked the Colonel if lie had'any atifficient ground ur forte
to go upon..? Ile saia,
deed, itthe people ceni;..l.oegv'alrtlYCliiri-tlicentlac•jr.albichlai'vrecebeiel;
given to understan.itin:l7ol7:
the Kingdom.' hirrniriglunt, Lece6r4diset,
tilS,urohrileittevladsr,einAcfatinioci)atestts;r/ i
and in, near, and ro
ripe..' lie said he had beret glla4eti in tilis bUSIIIO63 Iwo
years. " I have travelled Najd or.) above twenty miles CO-
day, and the people tvherever I hoe been are '4)O and "Xi:
0114:lat the atollsmpf attas4,;' I Jbls,44 101 it he 11.41 arty
regular organization. He said, '' No; a regular ore:mega-
tion would be A moral impossibility, as it would be so neat
and under the eye of Coverninate. ; but Mat he Country it
Iwould beanore setteral." ,I,e,Sked •Inin whether use attack
;was to be made in Loudest and in the. Country, en one and
the same day ? Ile suit, ." Nu, by Ito means that would .be
highlY ite eroptt oboe:that it would be a signal to the Coun • ,
;try, by the stoppage et toe niail-coaenee,"_(;ralialit clencliet
his tier,. and said with an oath, ',' I c will do nu Or
:unless. you secure the whole of the Feinilv ." Broodst
tort....shiatik,' his ..bead,. and said, " O„. theCe settle(l.9.„O
asked him, how it was to 4 tlOO, ? lie said,
..";Slioet ''''i?
of the horses, and the carria entuet stop ; than seize pith..
)
I replied,' " Deyou'cuits: er that there are noraemen tidal
dos,: to tha Window, who woul.l instantly ,:or to pieces alit
man who should approach—then who'Would (16 it ?" The
Colonel said, " I would do it witlampown hand !" I, recoilees.
his aaying, in some pert of Abe eonversetioo, '4 'I have Well .:
weighed the atrair, 'and my heart is callous." There was s; ,
conversation respeeling the seizure of the• Bank, and that the '
Toweisiaiuld, be taken., With'respeet to the Ilenk, he eerd
"the aphis had been rendered useless, and n:eie only ;hog.
6waoin'.4"46Ltil!rviiitikr4,,itt.we;sivetli,len(t:owlelithieulndWiricodsraniteliit,hiasu.d
.1I ;ear
t 51.7,::
tbe 'ranter myself." I , sAve no anoreof the Colonel ell h":„1"
MeCtitig at the Oakley Arms. Lawler, iii thc.riturs4l, ----,•,
been talking of hiving a- Division 'to march front the ' ovit,..*
toiNevesstreet, to seize the arms of: theliast 114nt Cralr„//,',a •
amigo and assist in the:ma:ken the it ousce 0, hull:um," -,,' s
arieVter UVe.r London- htlde7e for thesarne purpose. lie tn"b••
it would be better to have Ccidriers to ride taick third; and tor'
wards; and he said he had $041.11.01 a hours where tie "51()
receive the report of. these Courier, ur Aiti.:::-e.c-C..111V
il!oekaes,kiedotptireisetod.Viliitesait,lllipihttiv)
i(iii6;(•,hl.vitili ryeotitiistralo iheallii4;
ley Arins; it you will iittroduce itie." Triet • evenini4i 4i f'
was going home with a clotA, -I met 13rotykiti)tk_
~. lle, k3,,',;',,,
" I understanti yeti are coining' down to-nig t r he vitals"'
do, and don't belong.'? Going along, I , saw:Landers s tut-
ting up his §heP. He said, it I should oot be loegiheeroig
go with 'tie. When.' ,returned he was eou,i." I waft to rte`.
th'ilekioeYfliAcerirlsisc.anAieb.°Utltirent)l:fiwVi..enltiri, silittewsa3srtearskied''vralsyillioll
.avented ? 1 said Broughton a Russet. I WCilt up &testa: -, •
j udged there were more titan twenty. They were inigae'ea in.
pi oniisettous conversation. la had tau beets lung seated be'
tore Broughton aaal, " My boys'a we have got the coat
plan in the world to do time business without Any trouro.
load the great gun in the l'iirk with tour bails. or elaain-shorp
and tire it at His Majesty in tho coach. Fle'd be datitit'd Ifle •
would not sencl him to hell." The eapteeiiien shocked 10,4F'!
I said,'" Do you consider hOW many oeople Will be in rn'l
Park `that' day, and how inaily lives .you eivill•aaXe torriirr'
avi-isbia'y .st'lta.t.,eHt
Treasuryiel e,e;nttitl'tlille :clanas4..totvitzth)teCsal .:tallikl:ptttlet:hyenlc.-1,
tile, 1141I,,k,iiivIlui4:t114
litde' i1c.,714,0101.,
fo-W,''; another said, it Might easily be relied an inch.. 'Some per '
soli said, but if it triteees His- Atajesty ! hreireitton ;rePh,vil„.'
"...thee dentin him, we must
sits
burr, I rAt,iq '
tulle;; I had a conVersatioa o ith the Celonel beforeatidt. ,„, !
asked.broughtcrn whether I .inight, Speak farina coloovi.' ,',l .
Said ta,t4e Colonel: 's Sir, }on txerc . Mean ilig:l4Aot"l t'l‘l
Tower. Lander says; s' eull it net be proper te,heve 4 suit
4ion there," . He eabee•ead to it, because, he: belitited 004
kh:ilf 1?""::1'.,;!.'itili Coineanv "a men-tire our Viends.AlreadY,
.uti.,Th;.)-00,.; z0r,:v,;.•41,z n;:,i settee- tha.;. we• can.havo.,lo,
a
'low. but if w,: melee ".c hAve eveiy thiiie w.—for tha are
m
ars to area agerat Intitisr of enen,"ttiore than sufficient, anr!
itSito tilt:AlitilleTY:63ii.;taldi it.WOUla trot, ati3VVer.' 1 littiY'7.
that, ilt.V.l3;:tiretWO 1,0 tenet a 4acr4o4). to annoy the A#Vb34ri,
tion.
_The
.COletiel aaid lio St.'lletil'; w,ii. Wit att ,
“Ptxl::cubt,;t"h'e hatiklti, illtirtild'itlaziilkt‘.er'iluiteililicothholwillati "t
,:iittgev,s.44retitt,tccel9.l!:;lri,
Per toatieddiseNvitli it. ,lie rata, 'I Surely, the Ihnik _9lke,
to be the tir.st •conSicieratleil'." ' He Said-,' he could, ti°lPta•rd'
l'n‘ier'. burh'the 'town mat batterrittei pieces: I ovt."""ole
B,,orne one telkthgaiL.Nlesniying.ilie, telegraph., • I sod fo•:,,ia,
t4'40.11e1 ',`,..` do tuteetippkot that will be neeeseary P'.llo s`'iir,
" St..trely?f,ir rt,•ts-;t rising iti:it would be of service to ‘.O
but -of VestliertiiOrtanire to our crumiles.',' Soon after ,tit°'•

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cottversations the 0 (liver. came
4 Mt. lerjcant Bes•r.—Admitted -1
brought up ii, custody, 'and Bad beer, confuted ever since 11
•apprehen‘ion; •
• : • oh,
:Meg emoftan, Landlady of . the Flying florseltba
lic-house,
„at :Newington. --I remember' hearing 01- of
people .being apprehended at the .oaktey Arms. Twc)a
three days before there were a:-.out six a)seinblixf in a:g
parlour, a little before ei4bt., one had a oark.brUWil gi"f
coat, and an umbrella in Ills hand. They %vc;lt tyro a Itit,„o'" very
kitchen which we call a back-parlOur. Thcy
much in private' and they drevf asurtain. , I he: one t 1,,„
Say he hid weighed evety ti,nug wi;tun bun, and his he•tii.e.
was callous. t know a soldier or The tame of Windsor.
rime there. TwO were in to:: tap..t00411.. don't Jutuw .00
‘,llO
1'314 the reckoning; the change to a little ht4UP
gave it to the 4rttVillit, and s.tid he would have it ki s.
F.,'4".--4attciluc.l when Windsor was exantin
at the Tre..ery; and in c.onsequt.twe of the eliainitlittion 311
Ate Soldiers were taken up.
This was the 'wh4.4..:a.:t the evidence for the CraWn•
.„ ht
Lard 4tNßOtlOUCti.—Otisonizi-, squid )014 6
. you[
say tify thing ye-t0...e1f, LiO•Vtiti" !care y•Air deremx--
Counsel s -They ate at liberty to speck in your benalt hot
a,s to the law and t,i.: t
prhopire. —My I leave my defence entirely id rill
Cottrisel.

Mr. Serjealt BEST.—." Gentlemen of the jar,
It now becumo my duty to addre4s you, oie the