The Sun.
London, England, 1856-10-23 00:00:00

THE SUN, LoN oON, THURSDA le EVE G, OCTOBKR, '23 t- 6

LINES LEASED AT FIXED RENTALS.

LAW INTELLIGENCE.—(This Day.)

which was locked when he saw it an hour before the
prisoner was missing. When be saw it again it was
broken to pieces, and the money was gone. From in•
formation he received he went to the station house and
found the prisoner there.

RAILWAYS.

Compafl:

Cloiln ,riott
yesterd ty.

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thu day.

CITY SHERIFFS' COURT.
(Before Mr. Prendergast, Q.C.)

IMPORTANT QUESTION OF COMMERCIAL INTERNATIONAL

LAW.7IIIRSCH, STROTHER, AND CO., V. WONTERS.

95 - 97
98 - 102
12 - 14
135 -- 138
4 ... 4i

Mr. Montague Leverson appeared as attorney for the
plaintiffs in this case, who are merchants at Brusselß, to
apply for an order for the appointment of " experts" or
viewers of goods which had been transmitted from Cal-
cutta to London.

Police constable Smith, No. 403 K, said that he found
the.prisoner last night in a place called Blue-gate-fields,
Shadwell, with some drunken sailors and loose women.
She was very much intoxicated and disorderly, and it
appeared bad been to a house of ill fame with a sailor
before he took her into custody.

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Mr. Leverson applied on a former occasion, and pro-
duced a decree of the Tribunal of Commerce, at Brus-
Fels, requesting as an act of repriority that the Court
of Commo❑ Pleas or any other Court in England having
cognisance over disputes between merchants should re-
port to the Tribunal of Commerce the opinions of the
" experts."

Mr. Elliott expressed his surprise at so much immo-
rality in a girl so young, and asked her age.
The prisoner replied that she was 15.
Smith added that the prisoner confessed to him that
morning that she broke open the money box and stole all
the money, except a three-penny piece which she left in
the bottom of the box.
A shop-keeper said the prisoner was formerly in his
employ, and she robbed him of money and goods, but he
overlooked it and allowed her to escape without punish-
ment.

1106 - 107

12i - 13
22i -23
108 -112
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His Honour on that occasion doubted his jurisdiction.
Mr. Levereon submitted that his Honour, as judge of
the Sheriffs' Court of London, had a jurisdiction to any
amount by consent, but it was subsequently decided
that the City Sheriffs' Court for the recovery of
small debts had no authority in the matter, but under
the old jurisdiction the Court bad extensive jurisdiction,
and a special Court was appointed for the purpose of
rehearing the argument.

2i - 21

The prisoner said she was guilty, and very sorry for
what she had done.

92 - 94

Mr. Elliott was afraid the prisoner was a most incorri•
gible thief. Tbis was not the first time she had robbed
her employer, and she appeared to indulge in the most
vicious propensities. He sentenced her to two months'
imprisonment and hard labour.

P - 1
55 - 57

Mr. Leverson now submitted the names of Mr. Gus-
tavus Dressler, of Idol-lane, seed merchant, and Mr.
W. Grahame, of the firm of Wilson, Rose, and Grahame,
as the ex parte or referees, which was assented to by the
other side, and made declaration to make a return.

ili4 : 138

The case is of a very peculiar nature. The Courts of
Common Pleas and the Tribunal of Commerce both
being in vacation, the only resort was to this Court to
exercise a power so seldom exercised as to have been
deemed almost obsolete.

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33 3d

32 - 33
90 -; 92

POLICE INTELLIGENCE.— (This Day.

MANSION•HOUSE.

FORGERT.—Octavius King, the young man who was
brought before the Lord Mayor on Saturday .in custody
of John Forrester. was again placed at the bar, charged
with uttering three forged acceptances for 1,5001.,
1,500/., and 1,4501., with intent to defraud the Na-
tional Discount Company. He is described on the
police-nueet as 21 years of age, merchant, of the Ter-
race, Newmarket. Tbo prisoner, who is ♦ery respect-
ably connected, appeared to feel acutely his degraded
position, and from his exhausted state he was accom•
modated with a seat. It appears there are several
bills of a heavy amount now running supposed to have
been uttered and forged by him. Since his incarcera-
tion he has been adjudicated a bankrupt.
Mr. Hallam, of the firm of Martin and Hallam,
appeared for the prosecution, and Mr. Wontner for
the prisoner.

Dir. Hallams said he should not offer any further
evidence. He thought sufficient had been adduced to
prove the charge.

The Lord Mayor said he thought so also.

Mr. Wontner did not object to the course proposed.
The depositions, the particulars of which have already
been published, were read over, and the prisoner was
committed for trial.

MR. DISRAELI AT HOME.

On Tuesday Mr. Disraeli made his appearance at the
annual gathering of an agricultural society near his own
estate, at Hughendon Manor, Bucks, known as the
Amerbham and Chesham Agricultural Association.
The chair was taken by the senior member for the
county, the Hon. C. C. Cavendish, and there was a large
attendance of the local gentry, including Viscount Cur-
zon, W. Loundes, Esq., T. T. Drake, Esq., &c.
After the usual toasts had been given,
Mr. Disraeli rose to return thanks as one of " The
Members for the County." After a few words of apology,
he said—Although I agree on these social occasions on
almost every subject with my friend, Mr. Cavendish,
there is one sentiment in which I cannot coincide with
him —viz., that it would have been as well that the health
of the county members had not been given. Gentlemen,
I should have been unhappy and ashamed if I thought
that the representative of this great, this undivided county
could be considered, under any circumstances, as a mere
political partisan. I look forward with the deepest inte-
rest and gratification to these occasions, when we meet
together without reference to political principles, political
passions, or political bodies, united together by our com-
mon sympathies, our common interests, our common
county. I can say most sincerely—and it was not my
intention to have referred in the most indirect manner
to political subjects—that although Mr. Cavendish and
myself sit on different sides of the House of Commons,
still, whenever the interests of the county of Buckingham
are at stake, there has never been the slightest difference
of opinion between us, and on all such occasions I have
received from him cordial and invariable support, and I
have been guided and benefited by his advice and coun-
sel. Gentlemen, I would now with your permission sit
down, but that a question was asked me down stairs, to
which I said, perhaps rashly, that I would reply after
dinner. I was asked just now, by one of the most in.
fluential members of your society what was my opinion
on agricultural statistics ! I have no desire to avoid an
answer to that question, because this association being
formed purely for the benefit of the agricultural interest,
it is a question that was rightly asked, and which I ought
not to avoid giving an answer to. I hope it will never
be said of me or of any member representing you, that
he or lam an enemy to information. I believe infor-
mation, and correct information, is the only solid basis
of true and real legislation, and I am sure that neither
the agricultural interest nor any other, interest in this
important county, would ever oppose the collection of

information that is likely to provoa benefit to the com-
munity. :But on this subject of agricultural statistics,
on which so much agitation exists, on which Ministers
have been defeated, in which Parliament has been ap-
pealed to in vain, without being permitted to solve the
difficulty, I believe that the Ministers of no country
have the means of obtaining such sound and extensive

information as to the agricultural products of the country
as the Minister of England. There is not a parish in
the country of which the acreage is not known, and
even the mode of cultivation of that acreage. This in-
formation exists in the Commutation Acts, in the
award under Inclosure Acts, and in the maps of
parochial assessments. Ido not for a moment maintain
that it may not be necessary to obtain more accu-
rate or wider information. But when I hear it main-
tained that we are absolutely in the dark as to this im-
portant article of produce, and the means by which it is
produced, I hope it will not be considered impertinent
or irreverent on my part, as your member, to remind
you that there are already existing in the country these
remarkably fall means of ascertaining these results. It
may be that fuller and more accurate information is

required, but how is it to be obtained I Suppose an
inspector bad been sent round, before last harvest, to
ascertain the probable results of the harvest, and to for-
ward to the Government the fruits of his research, could
anything be more deceptive than such retarns ? Would
they not have required to be diminished by 25 per cent.
on the crops promised ? The deduction I draw is, that
on this subject only general results can be available to
guide us in legislation, and in this country there exist at
present means of obtaining these general results, which
no Minister of any country possesses in an equal degree
with the Minister of England. Ido not say this in any
way to encourage you in any blind, bigoted opposition
to information, or to any measure by which it can be
more accurately obtained. But we live in an age of sta-
tistical imposture, and many statements are made on
these matters by men entirely unacquainted with rural
life, and not possessed of that information which is ne-
cessary on subjects of such delicacy and importance.
We have a great basis of information in the country to
build upon, and I believe we may both increase that
basis and go on to build upon it. But I will not encou-
rage that cry, which is the cry of ignorance, that this
great civilised country is so deficient in the means of
authentic and positive information as to the agricultural
produce of England. We may—l trust we shall—im-
prove these means, and we cannot so improve them
without the cordial support of the agricultural body.
But that support will not, ought not, to be obtained,
unless that body is treated with that deference and tour-

teay on the subject which are its due. I trust you will
pardon me for these observations, since, although we are
assembled for pleasure, this is in some sense a business
meeting. Let me again thank you for the honour you
have paid me, and also to my absent colleagle, Mr. Du
Pre, to whom I shall not fail to mentiallivhen I meet him
the kindnesswithwhich you havereceivelThim. lean assure
you both for myselfand for all nty•olleagues, that to be re-
membered with respect and regard in assemblies like the
present is the greatest reward we can receive, and the
inspiration of public life which never fails.—(Cheers.)
Subsequently, in proposing prosperity to the Associa-
tion, Mr. DISRAELI said—l recollect—and I hope there
are few present who can recollect so far back (nearly a
quarter of a century)—the institution of the first agri-
cultural association in this county, at which I assisted.
I recollect the ridicule and the line of depreciation which
was extended at that time, not only to assocations of
this nature, but be all bodit a of mea collected together
in this somewhat desultory way, for' any purposes.
Even that great scientific socieey, which since has com-
manded the attention not only of England but of Europe,
was treated not only with depreciation but with ridicule.
It was said that Sir Isaac Newton did not discover the
law of gravitation by the aid of a learned society, and,
applying the same to agriculture, that the plough was
not invented at an agricultural meeting. (Loud laughter.)
Notwithstanding these attempts to bring men together,
they have proved superior to ridicule, and they cootinae
to benefit society and to prosper. It is with great satis-
faction that I behold, throughout this country, not one
agricultural association only, but that their name is
legion—that in every district and part of Buckingham-
' shire men have felt the comfort and advantage of meet-
ing together—the benefit of the communication of ideas
and the communion of sentiment—and that it is not in
one town and ono district alone, but in many towns and
many districts, that we find the life and spirit of the
county thus united, and that in that union men find
advantage and strength. I know that there is some-
times some jealousy on the subject. ; but so far from
having any jealousy, the only feeling of regret I es•
perience is, that I have not the physical means and
occasion of meeting my friends and constituents at all
these places and on all such occasions ; and I am doubly
happy in meeting to-day those with whom lam most
nearly connected by property and neighbourhood. I
think the time has passed away when it is necessary to
vindicate this toast, though it has often been my lot
in past times to perform this then difficult and un-
gracious task. lam content to rest my vindication on
the broad ground that it is good for men to meet together,
and in agricultural counties especially, where we have
not, so to speak, the machinery of great towns to assist
the aggregation of men, we must have resource to so-
cieties of this kind to bring them together, and in no in-
stance have they been otherwise than beneficial. The
operations of your society must not be very consider-
able, but the objects are such as aim at the very best
.dis-
positions of mac. I cannot look on the rewards .•
buted to-night to various classes without feeling that
they must have a most beneficial and beautiful effect on
all parts of your agricultural system. It is absurd to
Pretend for a moment that the effect of the scenes of the
day vanish as the sun descends and exercise no influence
on the morrow that follows. The sturdy ploughman
that may have obtained prizes to night, on his boy who
has whistled at the plough, if to-morrow he meets the
farmer who has gained the preminni for his five acres of
swedes, will feel a spirit of fraternity which all the laws
artificially enacted by senates never could create. Well,
then, I place it on the back ground that it is good for
men to meet together—that man la never so weak as
when he is isolated—on this I rest the vindication of
these societies. And if there is any class on whom that

truth ought to be more impressed than another, it is the
tiller of the soil. He fulfils the most important, the
noblest, of all duties to society, but he fulfils it alone,
end he of all others in the community should seek the
society of his fellows, that there he may obtain the
strength that is necessary for all meo in this world of
contest. And, g?nttemen, always remember that emu-
lation is the parent of enterprise. It is impossible that
men can meet together without feeling, however noble
may be the rivalry, some degree of emulation, and it is
that emulation which leads to improvement. Think
what an important fact, in old times, the market day
was to the farmer. It is market day that has kept the
farmer alive. (Cheers.) He drives into the town, he
meets his fellows, he exchanges ideas, and bears that
such a one has made such improvement,, and has ob-
tained such advantages, and he is induced to enter into
honourable and beneficial rivalry with his neighbours.
But what else is the tendency of these associations
which were founded twenty or thirty years ago, and
which have since so much increased! Their tendency
is to multiply the influence of market day, to take
the agriculturist out of his isolat:on, to make him fef 1
how important is sympathy to success in all operations,
to make him feel that it is only by union that these op°
rations can be successfully conducted, and that he can
obtain that fair play to which he is entitled. There is
not a class of agriculturists whose position has not, in
my topinion, been advantaged by these associations.
From the inhabitant of the cottage, wheat this moment
is communicating with pride to his family the achieve-
ments of the day, to the provident occupier of land who
is now meditating the seeds of future scientific entsr-
prise, I feel sure that an impulse has been given to every
class. Ido not pretend
.that these societies should rest
on a higher basis • it is on social considerations that
support them. But social considerations lead scien-
tifietifio research, and the more you keep togethefi
you will find energy of mind exhibited, scientificinrienhceenatenrd-
prise increased, and a sense of your own
importance in secie,ty fostered. With these feelings,
very hastily and by the
pose frightened
pose the toast entrnsted to me, and,
imperfectly expressed, lam now to pro-
number of narnes'aitn—the paper before me, some of them
I definite, ajad some indefinite, I will venture to give it