The Sun.
London, England, 1860-11-24 00:00:00

MR. LINDSAY AND THE NEW YORK
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

The New York Journal of Commerce reports the

The regular meeting of the Chamber of Com-
merce was held on Thursday, November 1, at their
building. The attendance of members was not
large, there being about twenty-one members pre-
sent. Mr. George Opdyke, chairman of the Exe-
cutive Committee, made a report of the conference
with Mr. W. S. Lindsay on the 10th of October,
according to the appointment made at a special
meeting on the 9th, and which report contained
the following conclusions :

"1. Liabilities of Shipowners.—The Executive Com-
mittee agree with Mr. Lindsay that an international ar-
rangement should be made, providing for the application
of the existing laws of Great Britain and the United States,
on the subject of collisions, in the courts of both countries.
This is to say, the liability of the shipowners of both
countries should be uniformly the same, and actions
against them in the courts of either country should
be governed by the laws of their own. The committee,
however, consider the valuation proposed by Mr. Lindsay
of £l5 for ships and steamers (freight included) as too high.
They believe that £lO per ton would be sufficient for the
former, and £l5 per ton for the latter. But in any law that
may be enacted the committee think the actual value of the
defaulting vessel should be established, and determine the
liability. The committee also agree that to provide against
collisions at sea it is advisable that the same rule of the
road be adopted by both countries.
" 2. Crime at Sea—The committee agree with Mr. Lind-
sly in regard to the assimilation of the laws in reference to
crimes committed at sea; and that the Consuls of both
countries should have jurisdiction over all petty crimes and
offences committed on board the vessels of either, whether in
port or at sea ; and that deserters from the vessels of either
country should be promptly dealt with according to the laws
of the country to which they belong.

" 3. Light's at Sea—The committee also agree with Mr.
Lindsay in his recommendation that the ships of this COM).-
try be required to carry lights similar to those required by
the British law.

" 4. Shipping Offices—The committee join in the recom-
mendation that shipping offices be established in the princi-
pal ports of the United States for the purpose of engaging
and discharging crews of American ships • and that the
privilege of shipping the men at these offices be extended
to British shipowners, provided similar rights are extended
to American shipowners in British ports.
" 5. Registration of Ships—The committee admit the
propriety of debate in the Chamber on Mr. Lindsay's pro-
position that foreign ships should have the right of regis-
tration in the United States, as the ships of other nations
have in Great Britain.

"6, Coasting Trade—The committee see no objection to
discussing in the Chamber the propriety of throwing open
to British shipping the coasting trade between the Atlantic
and Pacific ports, it being understood that Great Britain
would reciprocate by abolishing light dues," passing tolls,'
' local charges,' compulsory pilotage,' colonial coasting,
and intercolonial trade,' and the coasting trade of the Ame-
rican lakes."

On motion, the report was accepted, and Mr.
OFDYKE then moved the adoption of the following
resolution :
" Resolved,—That so much of the report of the Execu-
tive Committee on proposed changes in the maritime law
as relates to the liabilities of shipowiers, crime at sea, lights
at sea, and shipping offices, be referred a select commit-
tee, with instructions to prepare and submit to the Cham-
ber a memorial to Government in accordance with the re-
commendations of said report ; and that so much thereof as
relates to the registration of ships and to the coasting trade
be referred to another select committee, with instructions
to investigate the merits of these propositions, and report
thereon at the next regular meeting of the Chamber."
The resolution was adopted.

Their Serene Highnesses the Prince Louis and
Prince Henry of Hesse Darmstadt have arrived at Mau-
rigy's Hotel from Paris.

'The Duchess of Manchester was safely delivered
of a son yesterday afternoon at her residence in Great
Stanhope-street.

The Marquis and Marchioness St. Jose and
Baron von Gersloof have left the Brunswick Hotel for
Paris.

The Countess of Durham was safely delivered of
a son yesterday at Chesterfield House. Her ladyship and
the infant <ire progressing favourably.
The Earl and Countess of Mounteharles have
arrived at their residence, Rutland-gate, from Windsor.

The Countess of Kinnoull is expected at her new
residence at Rutland-gate early next week, from Scotland.
The Earl of Eglinton has bought a residence in
Upper Belgrave-street, late the residence of Lady Charles
Wellesley.

Lady Frederick Fitzroy was safely delivered of
a son yesterday, at her residence in Grosvenor-street.

Viscount Palmerston, Earl Granville, the Duke
of Somerset, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Sir George
Grey, Lord Stanley of Alderley, the Earl of Chichester,
and Viscount Castlerosse, after attending the Queen's Privy
Council, yesterday afternoon, travelled from Windsor to
Paddington by a special train on the Great Western Railvray.
Field-Marshal Viscount and Viscountess Com-
bermere have arrived at Bath, from Leamington, for the
winter.

Viscount and. Viscountess Lismore arrived at the
Pavilion Hotel, Folkestone, on Thursday, from Paris.
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The Count and Countess Manzoni have arrived
at the Brunswick Hotel, Jermyn-street, from Italy.
Lord and Lady William Powlett have been enter-
taining, at Downham, during the past week, a distinguished
circle of friends, including the Earl and Countess of Strad-
broke, the Countess of Jersey, Sir Edward and Lady Caro-
line Kerrison, Hon. Robert and Mrs. Lawley, Hon. Francis
and Mrs. Stonor, Lord William Osborne, Hon. Gilbert
Reathcote, M.P., Mr. H. Milbanke, and Colonel Augustus
Meyrick.
Lord Stafford has arrived at Maurigy's Hotel,
from Cossey Hall, Norfolk.
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A French imperial decree annuls the prohibition
hitherto existing against the export of iron ore, and permits
it to be taken from the country free of duty.
The Minister of Marine has just given orders at
Rochefort to put on the stocks an iron-cased frigate, and
two steam transports of 400 horse power each.
There were no bullion operations of importance
at the Bank of England yesterday. •
The rates of discount on the Continent continue
to show a remarkable disproportion to those on this side.
At Paris, in the open market, transactions are effected at 4
per cent. At Amsterdam and Brussels, the charge is 3 per
cent., and at Hamburg it is only 21 per cent.
An order of the French Prefect of Police enjoins
the immediate introduction of the diapason fixed by law in
all concerts, balls, and places of musical entertainment.
The Emperor of the French has decided that of
the million francs disposable through the death of Prince
Jerome, three hundred thousand shall be added to the
dowry of the Princess Mathildo, and that the remainder
shall return to the treasury.
THE EMPEROR AND THE CHURCH.—A letter
from Paris says :—" It is said that as the Pope refuses to
consecrate Monseigneur Maret, the Bishop of Vannes, the
Emperor has resolved to dispense with the Papal exegtveur.
It seems there is a precedent by which the imposition of
hands by three bishops can be substituted for the consent of
his holiness, but the episcopal body does not furnish the
requisite number of docile prelates."
EXPERIMENTS WITH THE ARMSTRONG GUN.—
Some weeks since we gave an account of the experiments
carried on at Eastbourne for the purpose of testing the
breaching power of the larger descriptions of the Armstrong
gun, and it will be remembered that the trials resulted in
the complete demolition of a martello tower, on the side
exposed to the fire. Experiments have since been made on
a martello tower near Bexhill, in every respect similar to
the one at Eastbourne, to ascertain the effect of common
artillery, the guns employed being two 68-pounders and two
32-pounders, and the distance from the tower the same as
in the trials with the Armstrong guns—namely, 1,032 yards.
The firing commenced on Saturday, the 10th inst., and con-
tinued up to Wednesday, the 14th. Both shot and shell
were used, and the entire number of rounds fired exceeded
by one-half those delivered by the Armstrong guns at East-
bourne. The effect, however, was very different, for the
tower remained tenable to the last, no breach having been
effected ; and, in fact, only four shots penetrated into the
interior, and no shells. The result is admitted to be com-
pletely decisive in favour of the Armstrong guns; but it is
intended to pursue the experiments with the smooth bore
cannon at a reduced distance of 400 yards.
THE SUICIDE AND ATTEMPTED MURDER IN
SOUTH STAFFORDSHIRE.—On Thursday afternoon, :tfary
Lewis, the woman whose attempted murder and the suicide
of her would-be murderer we noticed yesterday still remained
alive. Her ultimate recovery, however, is scarcely possible.
She is unable to articulate, and continues to make known
her wants by motions and other proceedings. She remains
sensible, and is able in the way noticed to replyto the inter-
rogations put to her. The room in which she is lying is
said to be very small, leaving only a small space between
the bed and one of the walls. In this space she has re-
plied that she was when Stephenson came upstairs. The
wall hero is bespattored with blood. Stephenson had
lodged with the family 12 months. Having obtained work
some distance away, he came to their house en Wednesday
to fetch some of his clothes, and took dinner with than].
Lewis, on going to work, left him in the kitchen with his
wife's sister, a young woman of weak intellect. It was
after &is that Stephenson would seem to have gone up
stairs. The poor woman says that he never before made
such an attempt as that which she resisted so heroically.
MURDER IN THE COUNTY DONEGAL—LONDON-
DETurr, Thursday night.—An adjourned inquest was held
on the body of James Murray, at the petty sessions court,
Church-hill, at 12 o'clock to-day. The jury unanimously
returned a verdict that deceased was feloniously, wilfully,
awl maliciously murdered by persons unknown. Mr. Adair
has offered a reward of„eC100 for the discovery of the per-
petrator of this brutal murder.
MANUFACTURE OF CONDIMENTS FOR CATTLE.—A long
experience gives Mr. Thorley many advantages over his
rivals in this new and important branch of industry. The
first of the Cattle Food patents dates January 30, 18.55,
while Thorley was successfully at work in 1850 manufac-
turing Thorley's Mixture, a farinaceous compound, at 14s.
per cwt. This is a long start ahead. This mixture was a
compound of our different kinds of corn, including Indian
corn, ground or kibbled, and well mixed together • and
Thorley's success in Hull depended upon his using nothing
but the best qualities of coin he could get, and the frank,
honest, and John Bull manner which he assumed with his
customers, often personally kibbling and mixing his com-
pound in their presence—thus securing to him many excel-
lent and valued ft lends. Seine five years' experience,
however, taught Mr. Thorley that he had only taken
the first step in the great march of improvement upon
which he had entered ; hence the conclusion of a condiment
at which ho arrived, the new experimental career upon
which he entered to obtain this, and the result the Cattle
Food Condiment he now offers the public. The success of
Thorley's Cattle Food, like the success of Thorley's Mix-
ture, depends mainly upon the quality of the materials of
which it is composed, con'ded with its honest and proper
administration, and the compounding and mixing of the
several ingredients, seas to prevent the loss of aromatic and
volatile elements, and that without regard to the heavy loss
by waste of raw materials; for so long as this is attended
to, opposition may retard, but cannot stop, the wheel of
progress,