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The Times thinks it is not ca -ly to treat the rejection of
the Irish Church Bill as being any longer a practical ques-
tion. After the speeches of the Archbishop of Canter-
bury and Lord Stratford do Redcliffe on Monday, and
Lord Grey's argument on Tuesday night, followed by a

declaration from the Duke of Richmond that he could not

support Lord Harrowby's amendment, not to mention
equally sure though less tangible indications of opinion in

other quarters, it may be assumed that the second reading
will be carried by a sufficient majority. Lord Grey's history
of the Irish Church question, from the conception of the
Appropriation Clause, convinced his hearers how
impossible it was that an opinion which had gradually

swelled in volume in the way lie described could ever ebb,

and his conclusion, that the rejection of the bill could only
result in bringing the Lords into discredit by subjecting
them to the compulsion of passing it without power of

amendment a month or two hence, was felt to be irrefra-
gable. The debate in the House of Lords will evidently

sustain the high character of the Upper Chamber as a
school of oratory ; but it will do more than this, for it
will exhibit once again the moderation and patriotism of
its members. It is infinitely to the credit of a
House possessing privileges so vast, and in theory, at

least, unchecked by any feeling of personal responsibility,
that so many of its men►ber.4 should have resolved to

submit their own opinions and preferences to the national
judgment, and should remain unshaken in their resolution
in spite of the injurious language in which they have Leen

assailed. The vote of Saturday morning will be delivered
upon a judicial consideration of the arguments in favour
of the measure, based upon its own provisions and the
judgment of the nation at the hustings, and the dignity of
the Upper house will be maintained and its authority

strengthened when it is seen that no provocation has been
sufficient to induce the majority of the Peers to place

temselves in sullen antagonism to the decision of the

people.

The Daily News thinks that not the least admirable

part of the Bishop of St. David's speech was his con-
futation, from Hebrew and Christian history, and from
the broad moral principles which are at the root of both,

of the cry of sacrilege which is raised against the

Application of the ecclesiastical revenues of Ireland to
purposes of mercy. The same cry, as he reminded or
informed the House, was raised against St. Ambrose

whom be sold the sacred vessels of the Church at

Milan, for the purpose of redeeming captives from

slavery. The service of humanity is the service of
God ; and the Bishop contended that Miss Burdett
Coutts, in giving a market-place to the poor

people of Bethnal-green, was doing as religious au
act as Sir Benjamin Guinness performed in lavishing

is wealth on the restoration and adornment of St.

Patrick's Cathedral in Dublin,

These are truths as old

as the Church, if not as old as human nature ; but they
are apt to be forgotten in ecclesiastical warfare. They

come with more force from episcopal than from lay lips;
and thus Dr. Thirlwall has done a public service in uttering

them. The Bishop of St. David's, like most men of his
age and training, would have preferred, if it had been
practicable, the policy of levelling up to that of levelling
down ; but he sees that the abolition of religious inequality
in Ireland can be obtained now only in the way in
which the Government Bill seeks it. Desiring the

end, he accepts the inevitable means. The Bishop has
the courage of his opinions. He rebuked those who,
when a great issue is at stake, instead of manfully siding
with one or other of the two contending parties, stand

aloof in selfish seclusion. Ills censure and example will

we trust, convert waverers. If it has this effect, there
can be no doubt of the fate of Lord Harrowby's resolu-
tion. But be the immediate issue what it may, the
Bishop's speech stands out in the debate as a model of
deliberative eloquence and of Christian statesmanship,
and will add a new honour to the scholarly name of Con.'
nop Thiriwall.

The Standard says that there are two assumptions in
Lord Grey's remarkable speech, which granted, the con•
elusion is irrefragable. The first is, that the voice of the
country has conclusively approved the proposed plan for
the disestablishment and disendowment of the Irish

Church ; the second, that in throwing out the bill the
Lords would negative that decision. On the question,
whether this be so or not, hangs, it seems to us, the
question whether or not the Peers can safely throw out
the bill. If, on the whole, the country is against them,
they must clearly submit sooner or later ; and they
could probably make better terms before than after a de-
feat. The other question is, what the rejection of
the bill would mean. Lord Grey seems to imply that it
would convey a declaration that the Irish Church should
be maintained intact, or nearly so. On the other hand,
as the Ministerialists maintain that by reading the bill a
second time the Lords would prechrle themselves from

questioning the policy of total disendowment, it would
seem that by rejecting the second reading they only con-
demn the mode and extent to which that policy has been
carried out. The question is, as we have said before, a
very grave one; and the authority of Lord Grey and
others who have spoken on the same side is
deservedly high. But while the Government give
no assurance of their willingness to listen to
terns, while their organs have never retracted
the significant warning 3 they have repeatedly uttered

that no attempt to save for the Church any
portion of her endowments would be tolerated, while the
second person in the Cabinet openly taunts and insults,
ridicules and menaces the Upper House, it is impossible
that counsels of moderation should have the weight which
is due to them. Schemes of compromise imply concession
on both sides ; and in this case one side has distinctly pro-
claimed that it will yield nothing. if the Government will
not withdraw or repudiate that declaration, on them and on
them alone will rest the responsibility for all the mischiefs
which Lord Grey anticipates from the collision between
the two Houses, to which as yet all things appear

The herald is o' opinion that it is. very much to be
desired before the debate on the Irish Church Bill is
brought to a close, so far as the motion for the second
reading is concerned, the Government shall be required to
state distinctly in what sense the House of Lords is to
interpret the assurance of Lord Granville that amend-
ments from the Opposition side of the House will receive
the careful and respectful consideration of the Ministry.
The experience gained from the attitude of Mr. Gladstone
and his supporters in the House of Commons warrants the
assumption that there is no disposition whatever to con-
cede one inch to the fair requirements of the friends of the
Irish Church. It is the more necessary that some
such explanation should be forthcoming, because it is
quite evident from the tone of the Primate's speech on
Monday, and from those of Earl Grey and the Duke of
Richmond on Tuesday night, that votes may be influenced by
what there is too much reason to fear will prove an utter
delusion. We are not prepared to deny, for instance, that
the attitude of the Conservative party might be materially
modified if the Government were to declare themselves
prepared to accept the amendments sketched out by the
Archbishop of Canterbury. But we cannot forget that in
substance they have already been rejected in the House of
Commons, and that we have thus far not an atom of
warrant for the assumption that they will meet with a
more favourable reception if they are commended to the
Government by the vote of the Peers.
The Star is indignant at the criticisms on Mr. Bright's
letter to the Birmingham meeting. As if everybody who
thinks about politics at all did not know before Mr.
Bright's letter, as well as they know now, that if the
Peers throw themselves athwart the course of the nation,
" they may meet with accidents not pleasant for them to
think of." If the Lords assent to the second reading, it
will be exactly to avoid that of which Mr. Bright fore-
warns them, in saying that " they will stimulate discus-
sion on important questions which, but for their infatu-
tion, might have slumbered for many years." Why, that
is the hidden meaning of the whole of this week's debate.
Is it not childish to ask us all to discuss a question
of this rank with bated breath? If Mr. 13right's
career means oni t ling more unmistakably than another,
it is that politics are best handled with freedom and
manliness and common sense. Mr. Bright has never said
anything more contumelious of the Upper House than is
implied in the tone of those who presume to rebuke him.
His letter is declared to be rash, provoking, and mis-
chievous. Why? Because its frank statement of the
difficulties in which the Peers bid fair to place themselves
may so pique them, that out of pique—that is to say, out
of the meanest of all known sentiments— they will
throw over a bill which otherwise they would have
passed. Mr. Bright says that it is possible for a
Chamber like the House of Lords, throwing it-
self athwart the wishes of a nation, to meet
with unpleasant accidents. And this is the
very consideration which Tory writers frankly admit will
pass the bill, if it be passed. Finally, Mr. Bright recog-
nises the good and wise men who are among the peers, and
hopes that their counsels may prevail. Are not most of us
hoping for exactly this? The actual contents of the letter,
then, must be accepted by everyone whose opinion is
worth having ; and it is mere childishness to urge that
because a statesman is a Minister he is bound to press his
finger on his lips, lest anybody to whom he may speak the
truth should think himself bullied. If people are living
in a Fool's Paradise, the kindest thing either in a Cabinet
Minister or anybody else is to awaken them.
The Post imagines that Mr. Bright can scarcely be
aware of the degree in which such an exhibition as this
tends to shew the public that a professing Liberal may be
a bigot of a worse type than the Tory of tradition, or
than a blatant Orangeman, and that there may be loud-
voiced advocates of freedom to whom general liberty is
foOlishness and a stumbling,.block. Alr. Bright, if he were
only Mr. Bright, an unattached member for a dem7acri_te•
tit:ally-disposed borongh, would have been justly
htlo
to every opinion which we have expirtessel;
every term
which
we
have
used
;)21 a Minister
. Bright
is a good deal more than this. Mr. Brightdbe in harmony
of the Crown, constitutionally esteeme
he is in harmony
of Commons. 'We do not believe thatht Constitution. Not
with the Crown, with his colleagues, • nd with the House
. with any of tire-c elements
in tioref
leader in the Upper
endorse his views. Neither t
he fifty men cohlil be f•intnl
suffered even the
House has ever
house.s of Commons to
nor the Lower •
shadow of such opinions
,t
any
one
of his
colleagues
path nor do we believe tI to fall across the political
andvice indicating a policy in
, (:)r under any circumstances,
('ro'a'n •t of ,oveenment which appears to
tenderwould o itio
accordance with the spun
Bort-d of Trade. It is not
airyt provocation,
Cairns should have given notice
that Lord
surprising, then, I
animate the
will endeavour by a ut%tion—which
that on Thursday re
President of the
cam[
to use as a weapon o.f attack--
no the Cabinet some avowal of opinion upon
to extract
l'bernte ebullition. Possibly Earl Gran-
' Ate. Ben-lit stci •
no one is more
▪ ville may begin
• to feel that his colleague is taxing his
amiable generosity somewhat too heavily, and may be
to throw off the burden of apologetic explanao
disposed
COIL

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HER MAJESTY.

BALMORAL CASTLE, June 14.

The Queen, with the Princess Louise, Princess
Beatrice, and Prince Leopold, with their suite,
attended Divine service yesterday in the parish
church of Crathie.

MARKE7 S-2 MS DAY.

LIVERPOOL COTTON MARKET.
June 16.—Sales probably 15,000 bales, possibly more
The market quiet and unchanged.

SKETCHES IN PA.LLLIATIENT.

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TUESDAY.
"Where are tue people ?" everyone who did go down
to Westminster to see the peers arrive at the Houses of
Parliament was asking last night. And where wes the
enthusiasm? Did the " Radical rough," who shoved in
such force last session, know that this was the first night
of the great debate ? And the Orangeman ! why, ke
belied his very characteristics, and, leaving his spirits at
home, searched in vain for his voice when his favourites
passed by. Earl Spencer, riding, be it noted, on horsebacle,
passed along Parliament-street, and through the Palace
Yard, here and there recognised it is true, but with notes
so feeble, so ashamed of themselves, as they fell almost as
soon as they were raised, that the only conclusion to be drawn
was that the early rain had damped the spirit of the peoPle•
And what an effort it was which gave anything like e'
hearty cheer to the Earl of Derby, who, arriving with two
ladies, passed between the lines of people gathered inWest-
minister Hall ! Though, after all, there seas a ring of
encouragement in the voices of the assembled crowd, for
they evidently tried to overcome political coolness, to
get up the steam, and chew that they meant
well, notwithstanding that circumstances were against
them. Perhaps loyalty did not want "getting up," f°,
the people knew the Prince of Wales, scu
cheered hint heart and voice as he passed. The
Duke of Cambridge, too, was greeted cordially. In fact'
anyone who was not political, who had no distinct connec-
tion with the question which these well-dressed gentlemen
were arriving to discuss, were given to understand that
they were objects of public sympathy. Notably a quietlY.
dressed, elderly lady, whom people said was the Mar"
chioness of Beaconsfield, was lustily and enthusiastically
cheered. One could go inside the House in better temper
after the reception which was given to her, and the ‘lll'
comfortably dull feeling passed off somewhat.
And the House never presented a gayer appearance
than last evening. The peeresses were in the fullest P°P
sible force, and, with the exception of a brief space re.
served for Mr. Motley and his suite, the whole Galles,'
was lined and crowded with the rank and beauty ssa
England. The top of the canopy over the Throne was
cupied with ladies, who were content to peer throng°
trelliswork at the magnificent spectacle around them. 310 st
of the leading statesmen from the other House put in 1°
appearance during the evening, and the steps of the Throne
were always crowded with notable, if not noble, spectatore'
So great was the throng that the entrance of the most dshr
tinguished peers could scarcely be observed, and even tue
Prince of Wales had to elbow his way to his seat. On
l/
the bishops looked cool and comfortable, as the space
reserved for lawn sleeves is more than sufficient now that
so many prelates are disabled, and unable to attend evea
on an occasion which they naturally regard as all-iglP°l-
tant to them. Lord Granville had a difficult task t°
perform, for the prevailing feeling and atmosphere of
place was dead against him. It was positively cruuet
.
of his supporters to allow him to rise witho
a single cheer. Through a silence like that of the Dead
Sea his voice was heard as he rose to move the
second reading of the Irish Church Bill. But his openi.e!
sentences were well delivered, and with that quiet diguiti
of which he is so perfect a master. The House, however,
was not impressed—it would not be impressed—and when
Lord Granville was compelled to have recourse to his note_seo
it was unmistakably bored. It mist, however, h
admitted that the unpleasant and difficult duty of intro:
clueing the bill into an unwilling assembly Was performedin a very cred manner. the
Lord Harrowbyitable did not much revive the spirits of the
House in moving the rejection of the bill. And while lie
was telling about the relations of the Government to bird'
Dillon, several of the noble lords quietly withdrew an
went home to dine. More still left him and his argurneeit
while he was declaiming vigorously about the details of the
measure as being those marked out "long, long ego" 11 gr.
Mal But the Conservatives received him much ticcr".
heartily than the Ministerialists had received their leader'
and when Lord Clarendon rose, the nervousness svilicet
in some inexpressible way had pervaded the House
began to wear off. The Foreign Secretary bad 1001,e,
but le
solemn and anxious enough all the evening ;
tone of his speech was confident, and when he sat d°ls
and the House began to empty, cheerfulness had spread t;
both sides.
To this period succeeded the dead part of the eve _at
dinner-time—when empty benches and the reporters
talis:a
be talked at to keep things alive. The Duke of she,
gave his view of the subject to the Lord Chancellors,tw.iii,
quietly composed, looked on resignedly, knovsing theeetalea
was one of the "ills of office." To the Duke sue
noble
Lord Stratford de Redcliffe. Both these tser
lords were opposed to the bill, but the olvilly
nad come to the conclusion to vote for it. Lora 11%eio,
rose just when several members were coming beck3tiester
but there was no interest manifested in what the
of the
)f the Rolls had to say. But when the Prisnateoe_ to
United Church of England and Ireland r
explain why he should vote for the second
their lordships were all attention. The shopb Put be
Canterbury has a quiet style, with some energy with
has little fire, his strong point being the di riot
which he this
himself. His speech last Though
was in this respect a great success- e e;
short, it was full and explicit, and the referene
eboupie:
religion which lives upon the passions of the I:_eice of
evidently told. The respectful way in which bceb.uvrch of
the failure (as he considered it) of the Free
.ct_ it wes
Scotland, the point he made that the surplus whlt.°o,o the
said existed in Canada existed " in the shored,iniagi the
way in which he urged that the bill should be sa bis
freedom from exaggerated fear which charactberlosed,
utterances, and the neat sentences with which e rigs
made his speech one of the most successful of
itvhgelo)tovltietiwsitia:
Then rose the Earl of Carnarvon,
times that the House got impatient with him, be laid
vigour notwithstanding. The way in which iised wst
That the bill was right in principle, and the qua roes&
with which he objected to the voluntarysYsteni:' noted'
in the Bishop of Derry all the fire for which heeerfo, es
And the close of the night's debate was :vs ch sa susiav
earnest, and as exciting as its commencement `vas
?ressive, nervous, and dull. fo

Mr. Henry Berkeley, M.P. for Bristol, is .e.
be so ill that but faint hopes are entertained of his recofe"
Miss E. Hardy, daughter of the Itight 11°:
Gathorne Hardy, was married on Tuesday to 31r• Grabs' of
The body of Mary Wineford Roper, 29 Ye3;ls,a
age, only daughter of Mr. Joseph Roper, cotton sP'n-e;
Wigan, and Ackhurst Hall, Orrel, was found on 14°13c/sY
a goit of the river Douglas at the former place.
On Monday a public meeting of working Inc° ,:
II
held on the Church Green, Keighley, to take steps
t°
of
the committee formed at I3ingley for the
OrPc's: re-
relieving the sufferers in the recent ezplosion.
solution of sympathy and condolence with the sufferer
was carried, and a committee appointed to collect subb'

tions. teat 01/
Mr. Henry Herbert bas given notice
_..s
Thursday next he will ask the First Commissioner of Wv'to
(Mr. Layard) whether there exists any reason libs:, of
gratings in front of the Ladies' Galleries
ethertbe i1c430,..
existing cannot in any WI
Commons should not be removed; and wh the act.. 4.
the
modation already be
The Pall Mall Gazette says with reference tc) )
Bright'e letter—" With responsible men like the Quely
Ministers WO Ivive some right to quarrel when they 4131)0
themselves to bullying their opponents in this outrase°,,,,
manner. : Now, we say of this epistle, that it is most li-
hievous and indecto ent,
increase and that it lools uueorstuonlY I;k3e
c
deliber
effort ate -
hatred suffixen ; tly bitter
already."

An application was made in the Court of .A€lll.li ;
rally
on Tuesday morning, on behalf of Mr. Vrioleau,
ion'
defendant in the suit respecting the alleged
to
federate
vessel Mary or Alexandra, for leave
t" ~.
sell the vessel. The plaintiffs, tho GOVCITUICIIt Of i ,
United States, neither opposed nor consented to the sv
cation. Sir Robert phillimore said it was an unusiial mot=
in a cause of possession, but in other cases, when pro Per L
was likely to be deteriorated, such a course was aderte;
He directed the vessel to be sold, and the money paid iot
court.
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