The Sun.
London, England, 1869-04-21 00:00:00

IRISH ORGANISTS.

Mr. GLADSTONE said, in reply to Mr. O'Reilly-Dease,
said an amendment had been made to meet the ease of
organists, but it was not quite correct to say that organists
received their appointments for life. He had certainly
not thought of treating the appointment as a freehold, but
the whole subject had been looked into, and the Church
Commissioners would have the power of considering all
the cases, and apportioning compensation, on their award
receiving the sanction of the Treasury.
THE CROCODILE.
_ _ _

Mr. GRANT DUFF said it was quite true that the
Crocodile did come home from Malta without troops, but
he knew nothing of the application of General Lysoms
and other officers for a passage in her homeward voyage.
If the application had been made in the proper quarter he
had no doubt it would have at once Wen granted.
THE IRISH CHURCH.

Mr. GLADSTONE, in reply to Mr. Collins, said the
answer to the question, whether in the event of the dis-
establishment of the Irish Church bishops, priests, and
deacons, who had or might be ordained, would be enabled
to hold preferment in the Established Church in Eng'and,
must not be consid;red final. With respect to those
already ordained, he did not think theie could be any
doubt, as they were to be secured the right to all privileges
for employment elsewhere. With respect to those to be
ordained, he was not so clear, but all doubt in the matter
should be cleared up before the bill was completed.
SIR CULLING EARDLEY.
Mr. BRUCE, in reply to Mr. Schofield, said that the
statements that had appeared in the newspapers with re-
spect to the release of Sir Culling Eardley were without
foundation. His predecessor in office had received an ap-
plication for the remission of the sentence after the pri-
soner had undergone some part of his 18 months' punish-
ment on the ground that further confinement would be
dangerous to life. A very strict inquiry was made
into the representations made to the Home-office by
Mr. Perry, and he, finding that the prisoner was
suffering from asthma and bronchitis, and also other
diseases, and being of opinion that further confinement
would be highly dangerous to life, his hon. friend granted
a remission of the sentence on the condition that within
fourteen days after leaving prison Sir Culling Eardley
should quit England for the remaining term of his sen-
tence and not return until it had expired. When he, Mr.
Brace, came into office an application was made to him
to allow a longer time than fourteen days to pre-
pare, and eventually he granted anoth:'r fourteen
days, when Sir Culling Eardley left England, and he be-
lieved he was still out of the country. He could assure
the house his right hon. friend the First Lord of the Ad-
miralty never in the slightest manner urged or asked for
a remission of the sentence of Sir Culling Eardley.
(Hear, hear.)

Mr. HARDY conSrmed the statement of the right hon.
gentleman. The right hon. gentleman the First Lord of
the Admiralty never in any way asked for a departure from
the course ordinarily pursued, and Sir Culling Eardley was
treated just the same as any other prisoner.
THE NEW LAW COURTS.

O❑ the motion for the house going into committee,
Mr. GREGORY rose and moved that, in the opinion of
the house, it was desirable to reconsider the question of
I Carey-street as the site for the new law courts, inasmuch
as the Embankment between the Temple and Somerset
House offered many advantages for erecting such buildings.
He contended that the erection of the new courts on the
Carey-street site would be a great mistake, and that it
was advocated but by a comparative few interested
persons living about Lincoln's-inn. The Thames Em-
ment offered facilities that made it most eligible for the
purpose he proposed, and, compared with those offered
by Carey street with its want of proper approaches, it
stood out most remarkably. In point of expense, the
buildings might be put on the Thames Ein-
bankment and all the approaches made for
a sum of no less than £1,650,000 below that
of Carey-street, and with respect to the land
so cleared, he was i❑ poss.,ssion of information which was
to the effect that there was a perfectly solvent number of
gentlemen who were quite ready to take it off the
hands of the Government at the price paid for
it. (Hear, Lear.) If the new buildings were placed on
the Thames Embankment. the Carey-street site would at
once become highly valuable for the erection of chambers
and other offices, so that no loss would be sustained by the
alteration. If the Carey-street site was persevered in no less
than £700,000 would have to be laid out in the purchase
of additional land; £lOO,OOO would have to be given for
the Law Institution, and altogether an enormous outlay
would have to be made, and after all they would
get a large pile of builings, but without the con-

venience that the Thames Embankment site offered,

He thought it would be most beneficial to the legal pro-
fession that the Carey-street site should be occupied by
chambers, by which arrangement all the lawyers could be

within bell-pull of the new Law Courts But there were

a few persons whose interests the alteration of the site

did not suit, and the great outcry against the Thames
Embankment was maintained and kept up solely by them.
Sir ROUNDELL PALMER moved, as an amendment,
"that in the opinion of the house it is desirable to proceed

as soon as possible with the erection of the new Law

Courts, and the offices connected therewith, upon the site

appropriated for that purpose by the Act 28 and 29 Vic.,

c. 49, and that if additional land were necessary for the
proper erection of such courts and offices, such additional
land ought to be acquired in immediate proximity to that

site." He did not stand up in favour of the Carey-street
site simply because the ground was cleared. If not a brick
had been displaced or a single individual removed from a

local habitation be would still have been in its favour.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER trusted that
the house would reconsider the question altogether afresh,
and come down to something like the modest and fair

estimate which was formed three years ago. What the
new courts must have was air, light, quiet, and accessi-
bility ; and he deprecated the adoption of an enormous ex-
penditure without proper and renewed deliberation. The
Government had suspended the purchase rin:il the plea-
sure of the House of Commons was known. He thought
it would be well to put an end at once to the Royal Com-
mission, which had done its work; and the sums now ex-
pended on it were simply an unnecessary outlay.
On the motion of Mr. HENLEY, the debate was ad-
journed.

The orders of the day were then disposed of, and the
house adjourned.

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