The Sun.
London, England, 1869-04-20 00:00:00

not cross-examine tho witnesses' on that occasion—the
witness said Mr. Farral wa3 a very respectable man, and
had carried on the business of a stationer for a number of
years.

Sir T. Henry said the inspector had explained the pro-
ceedings at the draw, :so it would not be necessary to go
through that part of the CaSa again on that occasion.
Mr. Poland said he proposed to call another witness,
who could speak to the proceedings at the Andover-road.
William Palmer, a sergeant in the detective force, said
on the 25th February I purchased five tickets for the
Liverpool Grand National at Farrah's shop in the Strand.
I also purchased a ticket for the Grand National at the
Bedford Arms, as stated by the previous witness. I after-
wards went up stairs and was present when the draw took
place. Inspector Clarke has correctly described the matter.
On the 3d of March 1 went to Farrah's shop in the Strand
and there purchased the result-sheet now produced. It
gives the result of the Liverpool Grand National,
and advertises the particulars of the next great race.
I found that the ticket I bad bought at
the Bedford Arms had become a 10s. prize, but
I was not aware of that when I was in the room. On the
Bth of March I went to the house in the Andover-road,
knowing the prizes were to be distributed. I went into
the club-room about seven o'clock, and found Morris,
Clayton, Daniel?, and Walker there, and also about 40
prize holders. The four defendants were behind a table;
they had a quantity of money in bags. Morris was sitting
down at the table, and Clayton sat opposite him.
Walker and Daniels were standing up. Walker
called out, "First prize," and a person went up to
the table and presented a ticket to Morris, who
handed it to Clayton'. Having looked at it, he said "All
right," and then Walker and Daniels paid the money,
£lO5, which consisted of cheques, notes, and gold. The
ticket handed in was one of the ordinary brown tickets.
Sir T. Henry—Was that for a £5OO ?
Witness—Yes, Sir Thomas; but it was stated that
4,000 tickets had not been scld.
Sir T. Henry—Quite so ; but it would be well to know
the deduction made.
Witness continued--I spoke with the winner of the
£4OO prize for an hour before ho got the money. He lives,
I believe, at Walworth. All the other prizes were
similarly paid, and then tho prizeholders were asked to
put something into a bowl for the boys who had drawn
the prize. The boys were not present. Tickets were
afterwards sold in the room for the Great Northampton-
shire S;aker. Small prizes were not paid at the time the
large ones were. The small prise that the ticket I had
taken was paid at Florence Cottages by a little girl. She
paid me 9s. in, silver from a bowl. 'Whilst I was there I
purchased five books, and I also other persons buying
tickets. I also on the same day, fhe 12th March, bought
some tickets at Clayton's shop. On the 13th I went to the
defendant Eatrah's shop, and purchased of the shop:clan
three tickets for the Great Northamptonshire Stakes. I
haie also purchased some tickets for the Deptford Spec.
at the George public-house, George-court, Strand. On the
Bth of March I afterwards went with Sergeant Sunerway
to the Selhurst Arms, Selhurst-road, Norwood. The
draw for the Great Northamptonshire Stakes was to take
place that night. There were about 60 to 70 persons: iu the
club-loom amongst them the defendants, with the excep-
lion of Leishman. Morris read from a paper the amount of
the draw. There were two large wheels of fortune in the
room: I left Sunerway to watch the proceedings. On
the 16th of March I purchased another result sheet,
of the draw for the Great Northamptonshire Stakes, and
the particulars at the top relate to the City and Suburban.
On the 23d of March 1 went to Florence Cottages, and
saw Leishman and some of the other defendants there. I
bought five tickets for City and Suburban, with 75,000
subscribers.
Mr. Poland—Can you say how many tickets a were
seized at Florence Cottages?
Witness-1 should say half a million at least.
Mr. Sergeant Sleigh—Everything seamed to be con-
ducted in a business-like and honest way.
Witness—Yes, it appeared so.
Mr. Sergeant Sleigh—You will accept bail for the de-
fendants?
Sir T. Henry—Yes, it's a bailable offence.
Mr. Sergeant Sleigh said the defendants were not like a
number of " speculators" who were at one placo to -day and
gone to-morrow, and therefore he hoped the bail would be
moderate.
Sir T. Henry—Yes ; two bail of £5O each, and their
own recognizances of £lOO each.
Bail was then tendetod and accepted for the whole of
the defendants.
Mr. Sergeant Sleigh -There is another matter, Sir
Thomas, I wish to ask you about.
Sir T. Henry—ls it the money ?
Mr. Sergeant Sleigh—You can make an order about it.
Sir T. Henry—To whom is it to be returned?
Mr. Sergeant Sleigh—The defendants, I tako it, most
undoubtedly, that they may honourably discharge their
engagements to the prizeholders.
Sir T. Henry—But I don't see that I have the power.
I don't think I have. The money is in safe keepiug
(laughter)—and I have no power to give it up.
Mr. Poland—Oh, yes, the police will keep it quite safe
until the day of the trial.
The defendants were then remanded until Thursday
week.