The Sun.
London, England, 1869-09-30 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, THURSDAY EVENING, SEPTEMBER 30, 1869.

SH.4RB LIST.

JOINT-STOCK BANKS.

Share; NAM Closing Businooo
E. Paid. Price done
17 Do, 10
lt.) Agra Limited, A all 11 111 111
B 3l 41
60 Albion,
00 Alliance, Limited
20Anglo Austrian
20 Anglo-Egyptian, link all 211 21P
20 Anglo-llungariau
20 Anglo-Italian 1866, limited 10 5 4
40 Australasian ..
20 Bank of British Columbia all 12 13
20 Do issued at 2 pm.... 5 5 4
25 Bank of Egypt
20 Bank of Otago, lira. .. . .... 10 6 4
25 Bank of South Australia_.. all 30 32
50 Bank of Victoria, Australia. 25 37 39
10 Bank of New Zealand....,. all 151 161
50 British North American
20 Chartered of India, Austra-
lia, 'nd China.
25 Chartered Mere, of India
London, and China, all 32 34
20 City
100 Colonial 25 36 37
10 Consolidated,
50 Delhi and London, lira 25 ... •••
50 East London, lira 5 21 11
20 English and American, inn 10
20 English Bank of Rio de Ja-
neiro. 1hn.... ........
20 English, ocottish, and Aus-
tralian Chartered .....a all 161 161
281 Hon., Kong and Shanghai
Bank C0rp0rati0n......,,. all 3G 33
281 Do new lll 4
100 Imperial, lim:
20 Imperial 0tt0man,,,,,,..... 10 21 24 121 1
k 5 lonian.
25 Do new
Lnd Mortgage of India, lira 4 31 31 I' 100 Do sp. c. Debs.lB6l, 30 all 76 76 tO
100 London Bank: of Mexico
and South America, Hui. 20 7 6
100 London and Brazilian, liar. 45 30 '27
20 Do new 71 541
100 London &River Plate, link. 40 6 8
25 Do new 10 11 2 p
20 London Chart. of Australia all 23j '241
20 London and C0unty.,...., 2O 401 501
60 Do new, iss at 20 p.m, 16 pd. 11 ••
London Joint 5t0ck....... • 3141321 301
London and South African al 8 9
100 London & S.-Western, lina, 20 13 11
50 London & Venezuela, lira.. 121 •••
100 London and Westminster. 20 571 581 571
100 Do Scrip, iss at 10 pm.. ....... 20 ...
100 Merchant, lim .................. 25 61 5
10 Metropolitan, lim. ............ all 71 71
00 Midland, lira
............ 20 11 1
5 National of Australia ...... 4 ..
25 National of Liverpool, liar. 15 3d 1p
00 National Provinc of Eng'd 42 lO Do
50 National. 3O "'
20 New South Wales all 41 43
20 North-Western
25 Oriental Book Corporation all 41 42
50 Provinc. Bank. Corpo., Rua lO 61 Li
30 Provincial of Ireland 25 90 92
10 Do new, all
••• •••
100 Stand. of Brit. S. Africa, lira 25 11 1 I
100 Do issued at 6pm lO 8 6
25 Union of Australia, all 46 11
100 Union of Ireland, lira
50 'Union of London

TELEGRAPH COMPANIES.

eric"Trlefr an 0.,1in11 20 24 201
10 Anglo Mediter Tel., 1im.... 10 161 17 161 171
at Atlantic Telegraph lO 15 17
at Do. 8 per cent. lOO 52 55
st E. and I. Magnetic Tel., Ern. 100 163 163
at Electric & Inter. Telegraph 100 251 259
10 Do. New 8 12 13p
25 Indo-European Tel., lira lO id pr
5 Lend. Provincial Tel. lint all 31 4
1 Do. Prefer. 10 per cent all p
10 Mediterra. Exten. Tel., lira all 61 71
25 Reuter's Telegram all 79 81
20 Societe Transatlant., lim all 16 10 Idi
at Submarine Telegraph
Do. Scrip all 11 2
5 11. Kingdom Tel. Co., lien all 7 71
5 Do. 10 per cent. Pref all 11 5 p

AIISOELLA,

10 Anglo-Mexican Mint all lb 151
25 Australian Agricultural
25 Australian Mort. Land and
Finance, lim.
10 Baugarah Tea Estates, lim 3 stl
10 Berlin Water Works, lim all 141 15
10 Do. New all 141 15
100 Bolekow Vaughan, lim.
5 Bombay Gas, lim.
5 Do. New 4 18 id
5J British American Land 44 15 17
20 British Indian Tea, lim all 2; 31
20 British Ship Owners 7 ..
29 Canada Company all ci ;..
10 Canadian Loan and Invest-
ment, lim 2l
•• •.
20 Ceylon Company, lim.
20 Do. A shares
10 City Discount, lim 6
.....
25 City of London Real Pro-
perty, lim 9 51 41d
30 City of Milan Improv. lim all 6 6
25 City of Moscow Gas, lim all
50 City Offices, lim 25 23 22 d
50 Colonial, lim
Do.
.i..
30 Commercial Union (Assur) 6 pr p
10 Company of African Mer-
chants, lim.
20 Continental Union Gas, lim all 24 24
25 Copper Miners of England,
pref. 71 per cent.
100 Corporation of London
Bonds, 1877, 4i per cent, all 103; 1011
100 Do. 1879, 41 per cent. all 1011 1053
100 Do. 1882, 4f per cont. all 103 104
10 Credit Fon. of England, lim. all 21 2sl 211 15
50 Credit Fon.of Mauritius lint lO 31 211
st Crystal Palace lOO 22 24 23 2
at Do. Preference lOO 92 97
st Do. 6p. c Pei petual Dob lO9 103 110
20 Darjeeling, lim.
10 Eastern Assam, lim. 6l ... ...d
50 East Indian Land Credit

menced by the Liberal Government was not solely their
policy. "In speaking cf that subject I should entirely de-
sire to avoid any ttpi earance of taking credit which ought
not to belong to the present Government ; and I have no
doubt that if our predecessors had remained in office they
would have done something towards a reduction of the
public expenditure. Indeed, I em bound to say
that, as regards the department in which I have
the honour to serve, the course of reduction had
already commenced when I had entered upon my office'
In the matter of army reorganisation, one of the great
objects the Government had in view was that of consoli-
dating and uniting the scattered forces of the empire, so as
to render the regulars, the militia, and the volunteers
one homogeneous force. "But, in doing this, the very first
step naturally was to recall and bring home a portion of
the forces ; and some people have told you this is an indi-
cation of a new policy towards the colonies—a policy of
indifference which may tend ultimately to dissociate the
colonies from us and enfeeble the general strength
of the country. If it were so really, that
would be a very serious objection. England is
not only a great nation in herself, but it is our
boast that she is a mother of nations, which are already
growing to be strong and powerful nations like herself.
Well, towards those colonies there are two policies. The
first policy, which not many years ago was abandoned, was
the policy of patronage. We sat to bonduct their govern-
ment in London—to do, as they say on the other side of
the Atlantic, their thinking for them; but they very

and Finance, lim. .... 8 51 41d
20 East India Irriga. & Canal all
32 Ebbw Vale Steel, Iron, and
C op,!,Ant "- _ 271 114 101 d 161
by Egypt. Gov all or es 074 7
20 Egyptian Coin. & Tra.f: llm 6
3 ling. & Aust ra.l. Copper, lieu 23 i
15 Euglisli aud Foreign Credit .73 43 l:341
100 Eng. and Scot. 31 aline, lint 8
10 Fairbairu Engineering 5 3 2(1
20 Fore-streetWarohouse,lim l2 1 2 p
100 For. & Col. Gov. Trust and
Loan Scrip, issued at XB5 all 83 20
50 Gellivara, lim
10 General Credit & Dis., lint 71 14 1.1
15 General Steam Navigation 14 27 29
50 Home & Col Marino In. lim. 5 24 zd
10 Hong Kong and China Gas all ...
20 Hudson's Bay .............. .
20 Imperial Land. Co. of Mar-
seilles, lint l2l ..• •••
20 Interna.Financial Soc. lint 5 2 11 3
20 Interns. Land Credit, lim 6 • 6 44
50 Italian Land
20 Italian Irri. (Canal Cavour) all 3 Si 33
100 Do. 6p. c. Bds., redeem
1870, issued 90.,.,,,,,,,x• all 67 r 9
50 Land Securities, 1im........ 21 11d
25 London African Trading _lO 7 sd,
s&cgia.cElanmnigGunea er 2
id
pr
25 Lon. & Caled. Marine, lim 6 ••• •••'
a.
10 Loudon County Land and
Building, lim.
50 Lond. Financial Asso., lira 30 2;, 21
4 Lond.Gen.Orunibus.Co.lim. all 2 21 21
LL
loanni&as niprdrr
loGgv
and Iron Ship, lim 25 21 16d
852;
sp.c. by India Gov. lOO 104. 108 1081
10 Mauritius Land, Credit, and
Agency, 1im...... ........ .
50 Merchant Shipping, Ha" all 32 37
60 Millwall Iron Works, lim. 121 •••• •••
10 Natal Land and Colonisa-
tion Co., lim. .........
25 National Discount Co., 6 114 114
25 National Prov. Marine, lim. 4 ••• • •
10 National Steam Ship, Jim. all 91 12,
"4
20 Nerbudda Coal& Iron, lim. 6 31 3d
10 New Consolidated Dia. lim. 3 14
5 New Quebrada, Jim..,,. - A.BO ail 41
25 New Zealand Loan &Mer.
cantile Agency,lizn ........ 21 I IP
25 New Zealand Trust and
Loan, lim
10 Northern Assam Tea, lim. 5 7
10 Do. B
at North Brit. Austral., 100 43 51
50 North Brit. & Mamma. In 64 19 194
25 Ocean Marine (Insurance) 5 13 144
50 Oriental Financial, lirn ll
5 Oriental Gas, lint all 7 8
5 Do. New .................... 1 1p
10 Otago and Southland In,
vestment, lim .......... 4d ip
5 Ottoman Gas, 1im,,,. 21
10 Panama, New Zealand, and
Australian R. Mail lim
5 Do. do.
et Peel R. Land & Minerl, lim 100 31 34
50 Peninsu. & Oriental steam all 643
50 Do. New 1867 . l 9 21
50 Rhymney Iron
1 Do. New ........... all 61 7
2 Rio de Janeiro City
Do. Gas,
100 Royal Mail Steam
Scottish Aust. Invest., lint 100 78 83
Do. 6p. c. Guar. Pref. 100 ••• •••
Societe Fin. d'EgYPte, lim. 10 7 6d
Societe Gen.de l'Empire 01. 8 24 31
50 S. African Mort. & Inv., lim. 6 •••
25 South Australian Land all 33 34
20 Telegraph Con. & Main.,lim. all 29 19, 281 1
20 Thames and Mersey Marine
• (Insurance),, lim 2 24 3
20 Trinidad Petroleum, lim.- 81
10 Trust & Agency of Aus,lim. 1 x 1p
10 Do do. do. all
20 Trust & Loan Co., U. Canada •k ip
50 Union Marine L'pool, bin 5 41 5 p
20 Union Steam Ship, lint all 22 24
15 United Discount Corp., lint 6 1 4a
20 Universal Marineau.),lim •. 5 3l p
10 Upper Assam Tea, lint all 11 2
30 Van Dieman's Land 2Bl o 7
100 Viceroy of Egypt, 7 per
cent. (Mortgage) Lean-. all ;9 a 791 80
50 Warrant Finance, lim. l2 11 104
50 West India and Pacific
Steam, lint 2O 5 3
20 West London Wharves find
10
Warehouses

3)..±13,413r ra-nr,Tre.a. - - ama, sa
do _their own Unniang fox..th, 4.u.0
in the right. They said what one of cur own poets has
put into our mouths—
" We must be free or die
Who speak the tonguo that Shakespeare sick;,
The faith and morals bold that Milton held."

Well, then, the policy of governing from home was a total
and entire failure, and it deserved to be. We had substi-
tuted for it the policy of doing whatever lies in us
to encourage them in the development of their own
power, in the increase of their own resources, in
the continual engendering and stimulating among them
of that spirit of self-reliance which is the prerogative
of Englishmen and the cause of their success. Well, that
natually implies that the apparatus of Government in
ordinary times should also be furnished by themselves.
The one is a corollary of the other. This, I contend, is the
true policy, not only for their benefit but for ours. If we
had adhered to the former policy they would have been
very much like what branch railways have unfortunately
been to the parent trunk. They would be suckers, not
feeders. But adopting the latter policy, they are sources
of strength and of honour—they are gems in the diadem
of our common Monarch, and whenever the time comes

that we have to meet and confront danger, then the power-
ful mother country will call for the support of powerful
colonies, and there will be a confederation such as
perhaps
the world never saw under a single Sovereign."
The right hon. gentleman concluded by a few remarks on
the ballot. " I think the objection urged against the
ballot that in places where there is a small number of
voters it would act unfairly towards the majority is to a
certain extent greatly diminished by the changes which
have been made in the law of parliamentary representa-
tion. (Hear.) But any objection I have always told you
I felt to the Ballot was, not that I want to perpetuate
either intimidation or corrupt influence, to both of which
I am sure you know no man is a more firm opponent

than I am, but it is because I have not been so
sanguine that the ballot would be a remedy for those evils
which its advocates claim for it. My intention is when I
see the conclusions of the committee, and the evidence
upon which they found their conclusions, I mean to arrive
at the best conclusion I can for myself as to what is right
to be done under the circumstances, and I shall take the
first opportunity of this kind, or in my place in Parlia-
ment, to make known what the conclusion at which I
arrive is, and I may add I shall be perfectly prepared to
defend it."

It is propovd holding an aggregate meeting of the
Yorkshire Chamber of Commerce to discuss the " Protec-
tion" question. The meeting will be held in Bradford Ex-
change, under the presidency of Mr. Jacob Behrens, the
rresident of the Bradford Chamber of Commerce.

MASTERSHIP OF THE MINT.—It is stated that
Dr. Lyon Playfair is a candidate for the Mastership of the
Mint, vacant by the death of Dr. Graham. In the event
of his obtaining the appointment, a vacancy would neces-
sarily occur in the representation of the Universities of
Edinburgh and St. Andrews, for which Sir William Stir-
ling Maxwell would be brought forward in the Conserva-
tive interest. We believe there is no foundation for the
report that the hon. baronet intended to contest the
vacancy in the sister Universities of Glasgow and Aber-
deen.—North British Mail.
A CHURCH SEIZED BY BAILIFFS.—On Tuesday
evening it was the intention of the opponents of Mr, W.
Grant's claims to the possession of St. Andrew's Church,
Ramsbottom, to hold a meeting in the church, but Mr.
Grant interdicted the meeting, but promised them the use
of Dundee School for the purpose. Mr. Grant on Sunday
obtained possession of the church, which possession he
maintains by the assistance of about eighty bailiffs, who
are located in the church and in a cottage at Nuttall-lane.
A number of police went down from Bury in anticipation
of a fight. No disturbance, however, took place. About
seven o'clock in the evening a number of the congregation,
deacons, and elders of the Fresbytcry went to the church
gates, which were locked, and behind which were a number
of bailiffs, who refused them admission.
THE HOME SECRETARY ON IRISH QUESTIONS.-
At the Liberal amonstration at Blackburn, on Monday,
t'ie following letter was read from the Hon. H. A. Bruce:
Dear Sir,—l much 'regret that I ain unable to attend
the soirée by the Cob Jen Club at Blackburn cn the 27th
September, with the view of celebrating the triumph of
religious equality in Ireland. The success Of a measure
which, giving the appearance of just and equal treat-
ment, will carry satisfaction and contentment to the
hearts of that large portion of the Irish people, which has
long suffered under laws, mitigated indeed as compared
with the odious severity of former legislation, but still
stamped with the mark of inequality and injustice, is a
subject of serious consideration to every true Englishman
as to every honest lover of justice; and I heartily hope
that this peaceful victory may be worthily celebrated at
plaekburu,=l P4U, dear kir, yQuo, 3}itucuP

COLONIAL GOYXIINMNNT SECUItITII:6

Britivb Columbia, 0 per

0ent.,1872...• _ 100
- Uo. 1895.. lOO
- Van.Grov.6 p.0.Jan.".% July
1877-84 ... . . ••-• • lOO I(4' 1061 Hp
- Do. 6 p.o 7eb. &Aug lOO It 2 104
- Do. sp. o. Mar. £ Sept lOO 102 104
- Do. p. c. Jan. & July lOO 924 on
- Do. sp. c. Inscribed sk lOO 90 92
- Cape G. Hope, 6 p. 0.1873 lOO 102 10}
- D0.Ap1.&004 18904900 lOO 111 113
-• - Do. do 1880-90 lOO 107 109
- Do. Jan.&July, 1891 •••• 100 108 lie
Do. 5
and i 5 Oct., 1900 lOO 98 100
- Ca ton, Nov 1878, 6 p. 0•• 100 108 110
- Do. 1872, do lOO 105 10T
- Mauritius, 6 p. o, 18711,••
per cent. 15 April
- Jan. and July
- Do. 1878 .. ........ •• 100 1(5 to,
- Do. 1882, May and NC, •• 00 106 108
- Po. 1805, Fen. Jc Aug lO 106 198
- M.lbourne Corporatn.,
- 1t167•75,6 per cent •-•• 100 100 100
- N.11.G0v.6 p.c.Ja.&July•• 100 103 11:4
- "SAW 6 p ot, Apt Oct- • 00 __
- pc. 11. y Sz Nov .•••• 1.0 1( G 105
- N. S.W. 5 ire., '7l tO 7.i• • 110 99 1,1
-- Do. 5 p.c. 1888 to 1800._ 103 so, 100
- Do. 5 p.c. rd. 6: to '75
- N.Zealand, 6p. ct. 1891•• 100
- Do. 5 percent....
- DoJan,Apil,July,o t•• 100 91 92 911
- '9l 100 108 110
- Do Ji.ne J: Deo , I'ol •••• 100 109 141
- (Do t'rov., I Aucirld. i I,A
- st riei 1 &'2, 1e.98.• ) -
- Nova Scotia 6p. c.Jan
• and July. 1875 ...... 100
- Do 1860. ..... 1i,.0 10
- Qtmnsincl. c. 18.24-. 100 lt7 1033 103
- Do 1891 .
- Tasmanian 6 pe t e 1895 1,7 109

Do at 93 , 118 109
Victoria G ior cent. 1691.. lu 0
- Dc, 4pril and Oct J. 9•1

MR. CARDWELL ON LAND TENURE, TILE
ARMY. AND NIB COLONIES.

Tho Right Hon. E. Cardwell, in conjunction with
i ernon Harcourt, addressed a largo meeting of their con-
stituents at Oxford on Wednesday evening. After the

usual review of the labours of the session, which Mr. Card
well estimated very differently from Mr. Henley—regard-
ing it as one of the most laborious he had ever known,
the right hon. gentleman passed by natural gradation:2
from the Irish Church Bill to the land question:—" Permit
me to say to you in a few words what that question is, and
how it happens that the same law which in England pro-
duced the best results should in Ireland be attended by so
much dissatisfaction and injury. Well, the nature:4 causes
are something of this sort. Ireland has not been, like
England, a country settled for many centuries. It,
settlement is comparatively new. Ireland is not, like
England, a vast commercial and manufacturing country,
wealth continually overflowing the land. Ireland has
had n population until a very recent period singularly dis-
proportionate to its extent. There has been the keenest
competition for the possession of land, and a practice has
arisen quite different from that which prevails in this coun-
try. In this country, as you know, the landlord furnishes
the fixed capital, and the tenant brings with him only the
movable capital, which, when he goes away, he can at once
remove and carry with him. And I speak to those who
know when I say in England it is as great an object to a
landlord to keep a good tenant as to a tenant to keep a
good landlord, and if the tenant goes away he carries with
him that which he brought, namely, his movable pro-
perty. But in Ireland it has been the practice for
the permanent improvements—that is, the houses,
drains, and fences to be done not by the landlord
but by the tenant. Accordingly, if the tenant is sud-
denly dispossessed, he goes away, leaving behind him for
the landlord's benefit that which is the result of his own
labour or his own expenditure. That is the cause
why the same law applied to a different state of things
is productive of the consequences of which you hear so
much, Now, the natural results are these :—First, in

every such case there is a great injury to the man who
is so dispossessed ; secondly—and this is of far greater im-
portance—there is generally a pervading sense of injustice
about such a state of things which is very adverse to
the current of contentment and good government through
the country; thirdly, it is a great discouragement to
improvement altogether if a man is not certain of obtain-
ing reward for his expenditure, labour, and improvement
It is our bcunden duty to endeavour to solve this question,
and in endeavouring to solve it we must be careful that
we do not jump from one injustice to another, not to do
injury to one set of men in order to redress the wrongs of
another set of men. We ought to make equity and justice
the pole star of the course we shall pursue, and endeavour
to reconcile with careful regard the security of property
and the just rights connected with it. I think I see a dis-
position on one side to make concession, and I hope that
those who are the guides and leaders of the Irish people
will shew the same disposition to induce the Irish people
to accept that which equity and justice will '
give, and not to demand that vv hich no Parlia-
ment and no Government can impose cf themselves.'
Cothing to his own department, Mr. Cardwell wished to
say that the policy of reduction which had been com-