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them to resort to the system of transportation as it once
existed.
Lord MON'FEA.GLE objected to legislation based
upon the evidence taken before committees. The infor-
mation thus obtained was not only limited, but often so
perverted that it wa3 impossible to form a correct judg-
ment upon t:ie subject. There was a great danger in ,
putting an end to transportation ; but there would be
greater danger in indiscreetly revising it. One of the
colonies in Western Australia desired that the system
of transportation should be continued. That colony not
only accepted convicts, bat sought them. The colonists
of Moreton Bay were desirous of being placed upon the
same footing as Western Australia, and were anxious to
take convicts. In any new system of transportation
the principle must be to make the colonists believe that
transportation would be a benefit to them ; but in any
plan which might be adopted they could never resort to
the system formerly pursued at Norfolk Island, which
was a disgrace to the age in which they lived.
After a few words in reply from the Earl of RAE-
ROWBY, which did not reach the gallery,
The house then adjourned till Thursday.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.--(YESTERDAY,)
The SPEAKER took the chair at the usual hour.
NEW MENIBER.
Sir A. AGNEW took the oaths and his seat for Wigton-
shire.

PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The following bills were severally read a second time
and ordered to be committed :—Barnsley Canal and
Collieries, and West of Fife Mineral Railway.
Mr. %V. FOX presented a petition from Oldham in
favour of the bill for the abolition of the toll w on ship-

ping.
The Marquis of BLANDFORD presented a petition
in favour of the abolition of the law of settlement.

Several petitions were presented against the Govern-
ment Police Bill.

Sir J. SHELLEY gave notice that on Thursday next
he should a:lc her Alaj,3sty's Government whether it was
ntended to introduce the Bill for the reform of the Car •

must see would be very imperfectly and i3couveniently
dealt with in a committee of the whole house. It is im-

possible in conducting a debate in a committee of the
whole house on a bill to separate and singly deal with
particular cases, especially if complicated by a great
variety of circumstances in such a manner as neither to
be satisfactory to the house nor just to the parties
concerned. (Hear, hear.) This bill consists of two
points ; one simple, the other more complicated. One
relating to passing tolls ; the other, differential duties
and town dues. It is evident that a great variety of re-

poration of London?
ll.ord GODERICH, on behalf of the hon. member for
Aylesbury, postponed his motion relative to the report
of Sir J. M 'Neil and Col. Toßach till Friday week.
Mr. ROEBUCK gave notice that on that day fort-
night he should call the attentiou of the house to the
salaries of County Court Judges.
THE CRIMEAN COMMISSION.
Sir DE LACY EVANS rose to put a qur,stion re-
lative to the extraordinary discrepancy in the statements

of her Majesty's Government, as to reasons for with-
holding the information obtained by the Crimean
Commissioners relative to the mortality in the
British -army in the Crimea. Th© document to
which he referred- in one part stated that the mor-
tality returns fcr the different regiments accompanied
it, but doubt existed on the part of the connnission
whether it was desirable to lay those returns before the
house ; while, on the other hand, it had been stated
that the report had been laid, in an entire state, before
the house. He wished to ask which of the statements
was correct ?

Mr. F. PEEL said that he did not admit the there
was any discrepancy with respect to the statement that
bad been made relative to those mortality returns. The
statement that he had made was precisely that which he
had received from Lord Panmure. The mortality re-

presentations are justly entitled to be made by the towns
which are concerned. The Vice-President of the Board

turns, he believed be was correct in stating, formed a
part of another document.
Sir D. L. EVANS—Is it the intention of the Govern-
ment to produce those returns ?
Mr. F. PEEL said it was not.
Sir D. L. EVANS—The return is to be of no use.
THE GERMAN LEGION.

of Trade stated yesterday that, with reference to the re-
presentations that had been made from Hull and Bristol
within the last few days bad led the Board of Trade to
think that special provisions should be made in the bill
to meet these particular cases. The special provisions
are difficult to be dealt with in a committee of the whole

Major REED asked the Under-Secretary for War
whether the attention of the War-office had been called

to the alleged riotous and insubordinate conduct of cer-
tain soldiers of the British German Legion stationed at
Shorncliffe ; and whether it was trae that a collision
had taken place between the police (aided by the inha-
bitants) and the soldiers, in which several persons were
severely injured ; that the Riot Act was read and appli-
cati©n made to the camp for assistance ; that drunken-
ness prevailed to a disgraceful extent, and in some cases
the men had refused to obey their officers ; and, if so,
whether any and what means had been taken to prevent
the recurrence of such dangerous proceedings ?
Mr. F. PEEL said ho had made inquiries on the sub-
ject and found that a disturbance had taken place, that
one man was taken to prison, and that an attempt had
been made to rescue him. A strict inquiry was now
going on to discover the ringleaders, and if they were
discovered they would be punished. With regard to
the prevalence of drunkenness he thoug,lit the charge
was without foundation.
THE BANK CHARTER.

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country, But, then, the Government will be under no
particular obligatio❑ to them on that account. Some in-
sinuationi have been thrown out by the right hon. gen-
tleman which I cannot allow to pass altogether urine-

ticed. Assailing my right hon. friend near me (Sir C.
Wood) he says, " Why, look at the forbearance we have
shown towards the blunders of the First Lord of the

Admiralty." I should like to know to what blunders the
right hon. gentleman refers ? Instead of dealing in this
♦ague railing, why does not the right hon. gentleman
bring forward a specific motion, and WI the house d'.s-
tinctly what has been the maladministration of the First
Lord of the Admiralty? (Cheers.) I do not mean to
claim all the credit for what has been done for my
right hon. friend ; our predecessors, and especially
the right hon. baronet the member for Carlisle (Sir
J. Graham), are entitled to participate in it; but I
believe tbat, owing to the ability and unwearied
industry of my right hon. friend in the dis-
charge of his official duties, a British fleet such as never
before rode the ocean has been equipped under his ad-
ministration of the Admiralty. And if, as I heartily

pray may not be the ease, our present hopes of peace
should be disappointed, I believe it will be found that

Dagland has now at her disposal a weapon which will
enable her triumphantly to protect her interests and vin-
dicate her honour—a weapon, let me add, which will
greatly enhance her influence in negotiation, as well as
prove a most effectual instrument for the prosecution of
war, should fulther warfare unhappily be necessary. Ti.•
right hon. gentlemen a'so dra?geil into this di,cu.si
the subject of tee Wensleyiale life peerage as a kind of
make-weight. I know not if that question is to be
brought before this house, but, at all events, I will not
new trou'ile this house with any observations upon it.
Indeed, I have to beg pardon of the house for trespass.
ing upon its attention as long as already have done,
but I really could not permit the most unprovoked at-
tack of the right hon. gentleman opposite to pass wholly
without comumnt. (Cheers.)
Mr. HEADLAM, as one of that class of members
who had been particularly alluded to by the right hon.
ntl.±man who had just sat down, wished to observe
that, even if he had had no connection with the shipping
interests, his oppositiin to this measure would have been
equally as decided as it no .v was. He must, therefore,
express his satisfaction at the course that hal been
adopted that night by the Government. Indeed he
only regretted that course had not been taken at an
earlier periad, and before such principles as those em-

bodied in this bill had been enunciated in that house. A
measure, ho vever, dealing with the question of passing
tolls, if jHdici,ur-dy framed, would confer a great boon on
the shipping interest, and would most erobably meet
with the cinctirrence of both sides of the house. He begged
to sa! , as the representative of a seaport, that his consti-
tuents were perfectly prepared to .submit their case to a
select committee. He admitted that the strict maintenance
of the present law might be attended with some harisiiips
and inconveniences, but he thought it would not be (Hifi,
cult to devise a scheme that would be fair and just
towarls the holdere, of the description of property which
would be affected by this bill, while it would obviate the
complaints urged against the present operation of the
law.

Mr. HADFIELD was of opinion that some benefit
had arisen from the discussions which had taken place on
this subject. The people had learned that, by virtue of old
documents for which a few shillings were given some tens
tunics ago, dues which were charged upon the earnings
of their hard labour wee e levied and appripriated by th•
town of Liverpool to the amount of 105,0001. a•year.
He thought also that the discussion might not be with-
out its effect upon the Corporation of Liverpool, who
roust remember that there were other outports which
were as easily accessible, and where cargoes might be
disc..arged upon more reasonable terms.
The arnendinent of Sir F. Thesiger was then withdrawn
—the order for the second reading of the bill was dis-
charged, and the bill was withdrawn.
CHARITABLE USES BILL.
This bill was read a third time.
On the question that it do past,
Mr. WIGWAM moved an a'nendment on the second
clause, with the view of preventing any relief being given
by the bill in eases in which the conveyance of laud for
charitable uses had not been executed in the presence of
two witnesses, in conformity with the statute of George

lay on the shoulders of the right hon. baronet the re-
sponsibility of any attempt to interfere with the rights
and privileges of the people.,
In reply to Sir H. WILLOUGHBY,
Sir B. HALL said all the plans would be referred to
a committee.

In reply to Col. GREVILLE,
S:r B. HALL stated that the object of this inquiry
would be to make out the best means of communication
through the park ; and it would not be very long before
the result could be reported to the house.
CONSOLIDATED FUND BILL.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER brought
up this bill, which was real a first tune.
The bonze then adjourned, at five minutes past 7, to
this day.

PARLIAMENTARY

HOUSE OF CO\IMONS.-FEB 26.

COURT OF CHANCERY (IRELAND) BILL.
Select Committee nominated : Mr. Solicitor -General for Ire-
land, Sir James Graham, -Mr. Edward Ellice, Mr. Henley,
Mr. Walpole, Mr. Keogh, Viscount Mouck. Motion made,
and question, " that Mr. Cairns be one other member of
the said committee," put, and negatived Napier,
Mr. Macartney, Mr. Henry Herbert, Mr. Wm. Fitzgerald,
Mr. Whiteside, to be members of the said committee :
Motion made, and question proposed, " that Mr. De Vere
be one other member of the said committee." Amtudment
proposed, to leave out the name of " Mr. De Vere " a d to
insert the name of " Sir Fitzroy Kelly " instead thereof :
Question, " that the name of Mr. De Vere stand part of
the question," put, and agreed to. Mr. De Vero to bo one
other member of the said c mmittee. Motion made, and
question put, " that Sir Erskine Perry be one other mem-
ber of said committee."—The house divided : Ayes, 128;
Noes, O.

AYES-123.
Acton, Joseph Fitzgerald, J. Monck, Vis.
Ai: new, Sir A. Foley, J. H. Monsell, W.
Atherton, W. Freestun, Colonel Morris, D.
Ball, J. Gibson, M Moityn' E.
Barnes, T. Gifford, Earl of Nr,wport, Viscount
Bass, M. Glyn, G. O'Connell, J.
Baxter, NV. Coderich, Viscount Olive ra, B.
Bell, J. Goodman, Sir G. Osborne, It.
Berkeley, Hon. 11. Gower, F. Paget, 1.0. d A.
Berkeley, G. Grace, 0. Palmerston, Viscount
Bethell, Sir R. Grenfell, Charles Pellatt, A.
Biggs, W. Greville, Colonel F. Perry, Sir E.
Black, Adam Grey, Rt. Hon, Sir G. I'hillimore, J. G.
Booth, Sir Rt. Gore Grosvenor, Ld. R. Pi/ott, F.
Bouverie, Hon. E. P. Gurney, J. 11. Ponso ,by, A.
Bowyer. G Hadlield, George Power. N.
Brand, H. B. W. Hall, Sir Benjamin Pritchard, J.
Brockman, E. D. Hastie, Arehd. Reed, .J.
Brocherton, J. Headlam, T. Ricardo, 0.
Bruce, Lord B. Heresy, Lord A. Richardson, J.
Buckley, Gen. Heyworth, L. itobartes, T.
Byng, G. 11. C. Higgins, G. 0. Russell, F. C.
Castlerosse, Vis. Hlndley, C. Scholefield, W.
Cuf field Col. J. Howard, C. Seymour, 11.
Chambers, T. Ingham, R. Seymour, W. D.
Cockburn, Sir A. Jackson, W. Shelley, Sir J.
Coffin, W. Johnstone, Sir J. Smith, M.
Cowper, W. Kersetw, J. Smith, ft.
Craufurd, E. H. J. Klimaird, A. Pomtrvilie, Sir W.
Crossley, F. Kirk, W. Spooner, it.
Deedes, William Langton, 11. G. Stanley, Lord
De Yore, S. E. LaFlett, W. Strati, lion. E,
Dillwyn, L. L. Lewis, Sir G. C. Tancred, U.
Disraeli, It. Lowe, R. Villiers, C.
Duckworth, Sir J. T.B. Luce, T. Walinsley, Sir J.
Duke, Sir J. Lytton, Sir E. Warner, E.
Duncan, Viscount Mackie, J. Watkins, Col.
Dune in, George M'Cann, J. Wlekhatn, li.
Dunlop, A. MacGregor, James Wilkinson, W.
Ellice, E. MeTavart, Sir J. Wilson, J.
Elliott, J E. Mang.es, R.
Ewart, W. Martin, J.
Ewart, J. 3latheson, A.
Ferguson, J. Milligan, it.
NOES— (19.
Adderley, C. B. Guinness, It. S. Murrougla, J. P.
Alexander, J. Gwyn, llowol Newdegate, C.
Arch call, Capt. M. Hall, tieneral John Parke, C.
Ball, E. Hamilton, Lord Claud Parker, R.
lirarnley-Moore, J. Hardy, G. Pugh, D.
Cairns, 11. Hayes, Sir E. )lobertson, P.
Carnac, Sir J. R. Horsfall, T. Seyiner, 11.
Christy, Samuel Jolliffe, Sir W. Shoe. Serjt. W.
Cole, H. A. Jones, D. Smith, Abel
Davies, J. Kendall. N. Stanhope, J.
Davison, R. Kennedy, T. Stirling. W.
Duncombe, Hon. A. Ker, D. Stracey, 11.
Duncombo, 0. Langton, W. 11. P. G. S,trart, Captain
Dun flinte, lion.W.E Lennox, Lord 11. G. 'Sullivan, Michael
Farrer, J. Liddell, H. T. Veruar, Sir W.
Fenw.cli, H. Macartney, G. Waddington, 11.
Ferguson, sir J. 31 tic Mahan, P. Warren, S.
Filmer, Sir E. Hellos, Richard Whitesi le, J.
Fitzgerald, W. It. S. Meagher, T. Whitmore. 11.
Follett, B S. Michell, William Wil:oughby, Sir 11.
Forester, Col. Montgomery, Sir G. Wool, Sir C.
Gall wey, Sir W. Mowbray, J. R. TELLERS.
Gladstone, Capt. J. Mullings, J. R. Vance, John
Grogan, Edward Mundy, W. Dunne, Colonel

T ELLER3.
Hay ter, W.
Mal grave, 1, ttrl of