The Sun.
London, England, 1860-09-21 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY EVENING, SEPTEMBER 21, 1860.

SIR 'TAMES GRAHAM AT CARLISLE.

The annual exhibition of stock, implements, &c., of the
East Cumberland Agricultural Societywasheld on Tuesday
at Carlisle. The occasion drew together the leading men
of the county: After the show the members and friends
dined together at the Coffee-house. The chair was taken
by Mr. T. Salkeld, chairman of the Caledonian Railway
Company, and the vice-eha r by Mr. P. 11. Howard, Corby
Castle, High Sheriff of the county. Among the company
were Sir James Graham and Mr. IV. Lawson, the two re-
presentatives of Carlisle; Mr. W. Marshall, one of the
representatives of East Cumberland ; and many other ger.
tlemen of distinction. In the course of the postprandial
proceedings,
Sir JAMES GRAHAM proposed "The health of the High
Sheriff," whom he highly complimented for his many excel-
lent qualities, and who (said the right hon. baronet) had
sustained at the late assizes the character of Cumberland
by the dignity and propriety of his conduct, for it was not
in that county that the judges of the land were brought
into unseemly conflict with her Majesty's representative.
He (Sir James) had heard with sincere sorrow that when
the High Sheriff was presiding at the late Cockermouth
election he suddenly fell from his high station. The hust-
ings came down—(laughter)—and with them the High
Sheriff of the county, (Laughter.) Some 30 years ago
he had himself tried the hustings at Cockermouth. Since
then they had stood many storms and conflicts, but had
remained unshaken. What now had happened? H
they lost at Cockermouth the art of making hustings ?
so, they must come to Carlisle to see how hustings wer
made and how hustings were used. (Laughter.)
At a later period of the day the health of the right hon.
baronet, as one of the city members, was proposed and
heartily received.
Sir JAMES GRAHAM, in reply, said—Certainly it is im-
possible not to feel on my part gratitude for having the
trust conferred upon me of being one of the representatives
of this ancient city, and I am sure that I speak for my
colleague and myself when I state that, at some cost, it has
been satisfactory to us to demonstrate the purity of the
body of electors that did us the honour to represent them
in Parliament. (Cheers.) Beyond that single sentence I
will not make ono political allusion. The very essence of
this assembly before me is its excellent rule that politics
should be excluded. But we have heard that politics are
not to bementioned, and that agriculture is a bore. Then
what are the subjects on which I am to address you ? Well,
I will say this, referring in succession to the topics already
argued, I differ from the Chancellor of the diocese in one
respect. He said that real statesmanship consisted in up-
holding land. All that I possess in the world is land, and
although I do not pretend to bo an expert in statesmanship,
yet as a landowner and a statesman I do contend that
sound policy consists not in a vain attempt to uphold land
as separated from commerce and from manufactures, but
that real statesmanship consists in the absence of any at-
tempt to favour the one at tho expense of the other, and in
doing the best to promote the common good of our common
country. (Cheers.) You perhaps think me disputatious;
yet if I am not to be political, and not talk of pure agricul-
ture, I must notice the topics urged by those who pre-
ceded me. I am sorry also to differ somewhat from the
chairman, and also from one of the representatives of East
Cumberland (Mr. Marshall). They both said they
would like to see a Northern Agricultural College estab-
lished. Now, I must say I dissent from that doctrine, and
I dissent from it on the ground of experience. I believe
that the very best teaching of agriculture—of practical agri-
culture—is to be found at this moment in the counties of
Cumberland and Westmoreland. (Cheers.) That sounds
like flattery. (Laughter.) It is far from it. There is a col-
lege to which reference has been made in a midland county
of England—namely, the College of Cirencester. Now, ap-
plications have been made to me repeatedly by great land-
owners in the South of England to recommend to them from
this county of Cumberland and from the neighbouring
county of Westmoreland persons well qualified to manage
largo estates. Now, here is a circumstance I may reveal
without being guilty of a breach of confidence. When I was
one of the servants of the Crown the Prince Consort did me
the honour to ask if there was any one whom I could recom-
mend to undertake the management of the Home Farm at
Windsor. There was a young lean, son of a tenant of mine,
whom I could conscientiously recommend to that appoint-
ment. (Cheers.) His father was dead. He had been trained
upon a largo farm. He was the right hand of his mother,
who held one of the best farms on my estate. I offered it to
him ; but what was the feeling he manifested ? He was
not flattered by the offer ; he was not attracted by the posi-
tion, But he said, " I feel that lam of use to my mother
aid sisters ; I au happy where lam ; I thank you for the
offer, but let me have a share in the lease ; let my name be
associated along with my mother's, and I would prefer to
remain in Cumberland. (Cheers.) Failing this Cumber-
land farmer, what was my next step ? I recommended an
excellent farmer front the opposite side of the Border--from
the county of Dumfries. He received the appointment, and
managed the Home Farm at Windsor with so much satis-
faction to the Royal family that their regret at losing him
was extreme. Where did ho go to ? He went te manage
the estate of the Duke of Richmond in Sussex, and both the
duke and Lord March told mo,of the great loss they sus-
tained when the connection teased. His estates in Not-
tinghamshire are managed by a Border farmer, whom I also
had the good fortune to recommend. These, then, are in-
stances which, I am satisfied, without flattery, show that
the home of the Cumberland yeoman, and the education of
the Cumberland farmer, on a large scale, afford a better
training in the best system of agriculture than any college
would produce. (Cheers.) There is another topic with
regard to the establishing of some associations to give per-
petuity to the rifle movement, Politics, you see, are ex-
cluded. (Laughter.) I do not wish to dwell upon the
volunteer movement. As a measure of protection to our
native land and of peace, I approve it. I think it has had
the effect, if ever the design was entertained, which I will
not confidently assert—the mad design of attempting an in-
vasion of this country—l think the spirit displayed by the
inhabitants has diverted any such intention, and I agree
that it is most desirable to give permanence to the move-
ment. lam too old to contribute to the personnel, but to
give permanence and efficiency to it I shall, with reference
to any well-considered plan to effect that object, subscribe.
(Cheers.) It is a volunteer movement not relying upon
public aid or public resources. Therefore some expense must
be incurred, which ought to be met by voluntary subscrip-
tion. Again I say lam ready to bear my part. Something
' was said at the bottom of the table (by the vice-chairman)
with regard to a measure on the question of the high roads.
I have always attacked the greatest importance to a mea-
sure of that description, but to make it efficient it must be
made compulsory. In practice I have been able, by a volun-
teer movement, to make an experiment on a large scale, the
repairs being conducted by a paid surveyor. I felt (I speak
in the presence of magistrates) with reference to the late
measure on the subject, that it gave too large and exclusive
powers to magistrates. lam of opinion that a better mea-
sure by far, if it be made compulsory, would be effected by
connecting it with the Poor-law unions. I think the Poor-
law unions are adapted, by the sub-division of counties,
for the management of highways ; and if power were con-
fided to the boards of guardians it might be made compul-
sory. I will not dwell upon the question of the unhappy
disturbances in NeW Zealand (to which the vice-chairman
had referred). The question of the tenure of land is of pri-
mary importance to the inhabitants, whose country we have
taken possession of somewhat summarily, and their feelings
and interests ought to be kindly considered. But these mat-
ters are alien to the topics which more immediately concern
us here. Now, I have always been favourable to these agri-
cultural meetings. I think they aro convivial. I think
them useful, because there is an assemblage of all classes at
them; landlords, yeomen, tenants, are all drawn together
in a harmonious meeting—harmonious because not political;
and for these considerations I have always supported them.
(Cheers.) After referring to the part Cumberland had early
taken in these agricultural meetings, the right hon. baronet
said—The great advantage is that we compare notes from
time to time as to our practical experience. The chairman
has spoken too kindly with reference to the expenditure I
have made for many years in draining. If ever there was a
year when the advantage of draining was more palpable to
the senses and experience of man, it has been the present
year. We have suffered little in this country from the wet
summer, but you may trace, as you ride or drive along,
every field which has been drained and every field which
has not been drained. Whore the field is drained the crop
is ripened, but where there has been no draining the corn
is still green. It is needless to dwell upon this subject,
for the necessity of draining is now generally admitted.
The only difficulty is to find the capital to do it with
sufficient spirit and efficiency. After referring to
the late Lord Lonsdalo and other eminent local agricultu-
rists, the right hon. bart. concluded :—Well, now, I have
said much in favour of these meetings, I must, before I sit
down, say one word more. It is not in the course of nature
that I should be able to attend many More. Possibly this
may be the last. I have therefore one word to say. If at
any time I have said or done anything that has given pain
or offence to any man, I beg his pardon, and hope to be
forgiven. (Cheers.) When lam gone I may be remem-
bered as one who was firmly attached to his native country,
who through a long life had done his best to preserve and
improve that property which I inherited, and that to the
last hour of my life my greatest pleasure was still to con-
tinue in Cumberland an improving farmer. (Cheers.)
Mr. Marshall, M.P.,
and Mr. Lawson, M.P., also ad-
dressed the meeting.

REPRESENTATION OF iIpNITON.—At the earnest
request of many among the friends of the late Mr. Locke,
Mr. Moffatt, late M.P. for Ashburton, who had been in-
timately associated with Mr. Locke during the whole of
his Parliamentary career, will bo proposed as a candidate
to fill the vacancy caused by the sudden and lamented
death of 111,; , Locket

THE PRINCE'S VISIT TO UPPER

CANADA.

(From the Special Correspondent of the Times.)
COBOURG, SEPT. 7, 6 A.M.
The telegrams which I received from Belleville
before I left Kingston' yesterday were quite correct
as to the Orangemen having .again succeeded in
driving the Prince from that landing. A number
of them travelled over night, and were waiting at
Belleville with their banners, bands, and other in-
signia. If anything were wanting to show the
animus of this miserable persecution it was this step.
The Orangemen of Kingston have, according to
their notions, a right to do what they like in their
own town, and, of course, having that place com-
pletely under their own control, might dictate
whatever offensive ceremonies they pleased, as to
the manner in which their guest was to be received.
But when they had insisted on their own 'petty
affront and carried it to an extent that drove the
Prince away, they might surely have remainedcon-
tent with this most inhospitable and. disloyal vic-
tory, and left other towns to decide for themselves
whether they would allow their Royal guest to
land or keep him wandering in a steamboat rejected

'om the veil, cities to which he had-been invited.

Wu t there has been an avariciousness of insult about
the Kingston demagogues that was not to be sa-
tiated with merely expelling the Prince from that
dilapidated township. It is not every day that men
like Mr. Flannigan or Mr.. Robinson have oppor-
tunities of compelling Royalty to bow before their
opposition and turn back from their own town to
avoid their insults. It is not likely that 'they will
soon again have an opportunity of insulting another
Prince of Wales, so Messrs. Flannigan and Robin-
son have made the most of the opportunity.
The formei undertook to 'go down with Orange
banners to Cobourg, while the latter started at once
for Belleville, the place where his Royal Highness
intended to land yesterday morning. To do the
people of Belleville merejustice they had abandoned
all idea of forcing an Orange procession on the
Prince, and the Orange 'arches which had been
erected had been denuded of their partisan symbols.
The chief authorities implored the Orangemen not
to assemble as Orangemen, and the ladies signed a
petition to the County and Grand Masters of the
Ledges to the same effect, and that the Prince might

be allowed to land. The Belleville Orangemen did
relent, and, no procession would have been formed
but for the arrival of the men from Kingston. The
importation of these firebrands soon decided the
matter, and their vulgar declamation about giving
the Prince a lesson was, unfortunately, listened to
by many of the Belleville deputy grand masters.
The result was that an Orange procession was
formed on the very spot where the Prince was to
land, though I am assured that more than nine-

tenths of it was entirely composed ofk. Kingston
men and supplied with Kingston banners. The
Prince's steamer came, his Royal Highness saw the
old " No Surrender" and other Orange flags, and,
without making any stay at all, the vessel turned
round at once and went away to Cobourg. For all

any at Belleville knew, the Royal party might have
been short of provisions on board, and, in fact, this
would actually have been the case but for the care
of Mr. Rose, who privately sent a quantity on board
before the vessel left Kingston. But I almost be-

aye the party might have been half starved before
Messrs. Flannigan and Robinson would have furled
a single banner or abated one jot of their persever-
ing insolence. Before leaving Kingston the Duke
of Newcastle addressed a letter to the Mayor of the
town, a copy of which I enclose. I may explain,

in reference to its concluding paragraph, that the
Mayor and Corporation - were invited to present

heir addresses on board the steamer while a

Kingston, bvt they declined. By some this refusa

is stated to have been due to fear of molestation
from the Orangemen if they consented to such an
indignity. I am, however, sorry to say that, from
all I have heard, I believe it arose from no other
cause than that of strong sympathy with the pro-
cessionists. The Mayor, Mr. Strange, is himself
a conspicuous member of the Orange party, while
his brother is second only to Mr. Flannigan in the
part he has taken to keep up this unfortunate

movement. The letter of the Duke of Newcastle

was as follows :

"Off Kingston, Sept. 5.

" Sir,—lt is with the utmost regret that I now find my-
self compelled to take the extreme course contemplated as
possible in my letter to Sir Edmund Head of the 30th of
August, which was immediately communicated to you by
his Excellency, and to advise the Prince of Wales to proceed
on his way without landing in the city of Kingston.
" When we arrived yesterday we found an arch covered
with Orange decorations, and an organised body of many
hundreds wearing all the insignia of their order, with nume-
rous flags, a band, and every accompaniment which charac-
terises such processions. I could hardly bring myself to
believe that after seeing you and the other gentlemen who
accompanied you on board the steamboat, and fully explain-
ing to you the motives which actuated my advice to the
Prince, the objections I took to these party displays on such
an occasion, and the necessary consequences which must
ensue, the Orangemen would be so misguided in their own
conduct and act so offensively to the whole of their fellow
citizens—Protestant and Roman Catholic—as to persevere
in their intention of preventing the Prince from accepting
the hospitality of your city.
" I have been disappointed. The Prince has consented to
wait 24 hours to give the Orangemen time to reconsider
their resolve. They adhere to it, and it is my duty, there-
fore, to advise the Prince to pursue his journey.
" What is the sacrifice I asked the Orangemen to make ?
Merely to abstain from displaying in the presence of a
young Prince of 19 years of age, the heir to a sceptre which
rules over millions of every form of Christianity, symbols
of religious and political organisation whick are notoriously
offensive to the members of another creed, and which in one
portion of the Empire have repeatedly produced, not only
discord and heartburning, but riot and bloodshed.
" I never doubted the loyalty of the persons compos-
ing the Orange body. I based my appeal to them on the
ground of that loyalty and of their good feeling. I did not
ask them to sacrifice a principle, but to furl a flag and ab-
stain from an article of dress. I wished the Prince to see
them, but not to give countenance to a society which has
been disapproved in the mother country by the Sovereign
and Legislature of Great Britain. lam told that they re-
present this act of mine as a slight to the Protestant reli-
gion. Until they can prove that the great mass of English-
men who are not Orangemen are also not Protestants, it is
quite unnecessary for me to repudiate so unfounded and
absurd a charge.
" I am well aware that such party processions are not
illegal in this country as they are in Ireland. This is a
conclusive answer, if I asked you, as mayor, to exercise
your:authority ; but it is no answer to my remonstrance. I
made it, not as Secretary for the Colonies, called upon to
enforce a law, but as a Minister of the Queen attending the
Prince of Wales, by command of her Majesty, in an official
visit to this colony at the invitation of its Legislature ; and
I ask you in what position would the Prince be placed by
my sanction if he were now to pass through such a scene as
was prepared for him (which happens not to be forbidden
by the Colonial Legislature), and next year visit the north
of Ireland, where he could not be a party to such an exhi-
bition without violating the laws of his country ?

" His Royal Highness will continue the route which had
been prepared for him, but in any place where similar de-
-1 monstrations are adhered to a similar course to that pur-
sued at Kingston will be taken.
•' I cannot conclude this letter without an expression of
regret that the corporation did not accept the offer which I
made them, through you, to present their address on board
the steamer—an offer readily accepted by the Moderator
and Synod of the Presbyterian Church in connection with
the Church of Scotland.
" It is impossible to believe that the members of the cor
poration were infiuenced.by sympathy with the conduct of
the Orangemen, but I fear such a construction is too likely
to he put upon their decision.
"I am, Sir, your very obedient servant,
"NEWCASTLE.
" The Worshipful the Mayor of Kingston."
No procession was attempted here, but, in order to
goad up the slumbering energy of the society, Mr.
Flannigan, with the Mayor of Kingston's brother,
came up by train from Kingston with a number of
Orange flags, with which they hoped to arrive
in time and find a sufficient number of Lodge
men to carry them on the landing-place, and so
again drive the Prince away. Their coming and
their purpose were telegraphed to the authorities
here, and by a singular coincidence it happened
that the train stopped PO long at yarioug Atatios