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guished as during the late war ; and he would take tempt to deprive them of self government, which wag
that opportunity of repeating the statement of the nohle the [lira' eeniseine feature of all our institutions.
lord the member for London, that the events of the late Tue committee then divided, when the numbers were-
war afforded an addieonal and triumphant proof of the For the amendment • lO6
vigour and power of free institutions. (Cheers.) But Against •, l6O
the situation and services of General Williams at Kars ' Majority -54
were altogether separate and distinct from those al- ! On the question that the clause stand part of the bill,
boded to and recognised in the vote of yesterday. In ' Mr. ROEBUCK moved that the clause be omitted
the case of General Williams neither the high spirit altogether. (Hear.)
of the British people, nor the native gallantry of the The committee then divided upon the question that
British army, could exercise any influence on the fate of the clause as amended stand part of the bill :-
Kars. Had it been otherwise, it would nct be presump- Ayes
tuous to predict that the fate of that fortress would Noes
have been very different from what it was. But he ;
Majority for the clause
thought he should only speak the general opinion which Clauses 12, 13, and 14 were agreed to.
every man must feel, when he stated that the conduct ' On clause 15, -111
of General Williams, in the defence of Kars, displayed ' Sir J. TROLLOPE moved to except from the opera-
a combination of all the highest qualities of the British tion of the clause the coke or liberty of Peterborough,
character. (Hear.) He was brave, sagacious, enduring and that it should be treated as a county of itself.
-both prudent and skilful. He (Sir J. Pakington) After a few words from Lord Goderich, Mr. Seymour
thought the conduct of that distinguished officer, during Fitzgerald, and Sir G. Grey, the motion was agreed to,
that gallant defence, combined the highest character- and the words were excepted from the clause.
istics of an Englishman with the greatest gallantry and ; Clause 16 was agreed to.
skill which could confer eminence on an English general. 1 Upon clause 2 (of the new clauses),
Amongst other reasons for rejoicing at the termination ; Mr. RICE moved that the justices of the peace at
of the war, and the return of the blessings of peace, was, quarter sessions might at any time appoint, for such
that it terminated the captivity of Gen. Williams. He time as they should think proper, a sufficient number
could not part with the subject without a passing word of justices, who should be the police committee, or com•
of recognition of the generous tribute paid by .General mittees, for the county, and might delegate to such
Mouravieff, and recognised in the most grateful language 1 committee or committees all or any of the powers as to
by Gen. Williams himself, and of which they found an [ the police force which were given to the justices by the
interesting record in the pages of Dr. Sand with. Gen. ! present or the therein-recited acts, except as to the in-
Williams, within a few days, was about to return to this 1 crease of the number of constables, and the appointment
c )untry, and he trusted that, upon his return, he would i or dismissal of any chief constable, or his deputy.
be received with that enthusiasm which his eminent ser- After a few remarks from Sir G. GREY,
vices deserved. He (Sir J. Pakington) for one, and he Mr. HENLEY said he looked upon the clause with
thought all his fellow•countrymen, must feel grateful to t alarm as limiting the sower of the Quarter Sessions. He
her Majesty and her Majesty's Government for the l sh iuld be sorry to see a clause of this kind introduced,
prompt and appropriate recognition of Gen. Williams's as he thought it would be setting up a commit' GO which
cervices, which, although not crowned with success, would override the chief constable, and interfere with
would stand out in history most conspicuous and dietin- him in doing his duty.
guished among those gallant deeds of which there were The clause was then negatived without a division.
so many during the late war. (Hear, hear.) Mr. MASSEY proposed to insert a clause which
Mr. S. FITZGERALD said he did not propose to in- would give power to compensate constables out of the
berfere with the passing of the vote, but that, while the fund before they had completed their 15 years' service in
house was acknowledging the brilliant services of Gen. case they should be accidentally disqualified from duty.
Williams, he would venture to hope they would not for- After some discussion the clause was agreed to.
get the services of the gallant but small band-(hear, Mr. R. PALMER then moved the insertion of the
[ hear) -that stood by his side through the many eventful following clause :-" It shall be lawful for the magis-
[ months of that eventful siege, and who contributed as trates, in general or quarter sessions assembled, if they
I much as anything to make the British name re- so think fit, to grant retiring pensions to such officers
I spected. He had no wish to make any mention of par- as may be removed from their appointments in conse-
i ticular instances, but with regard to those persons the quence of the duties of such officers being transferred
) country had not been so pro•opt in recognising their to persons belonging to the police establishment."
I services. Take the case of Col. Lake. He bad given up After some observations from Mr. HZ/Miff, Sir G.
) a very valuable post in the East Indies, acci was after- GREY, and other members, the clause was agreed to
i wards employed at Kars, at every reduced salary. There with the substitution of the word "gratuity," for the
[ he rendered the most distinguished services, and in a very words " retiring pensions."
short time he was enabled to make the trifling fortress On the motion of Sir P. EGERTON, a clause was
t of Kars almost impregnable. The best tribute to his added to the bill, saving the provisions of the Cheshire
• services was to be found in an appellation of the Rus- Constabulary Act of 1852.
9 thins, who called him the English Todtleben." From the The other unopposed clauses were then agreed to, after
I way in which the Russians had recognised the cervices which the Chairman obtained leave to report progress, ,
✓ of Todtleben, he (Mr. Fitzgerald) thought we might take and the house resumed.
) a lesson, and somewhat more liberally reward those gal- " CHURCH RATES.
1 lant men. In the case of Lieut. Teesdale, there was no Sir W. CLAY postponed going into committee on
e one who could not be struck with the intelligence and this bill till Monday, the 19th, when he said he should
a extreme prudence of all his arrangements. One incident use every means, which the rules of the house placed
i i had been recorded by Dr. Sandwith. He was upon one within his power, to expedite the measure.
y ' occasion taken prisoner, when he was recognised as the JUVENILE CONVICT PRISON(IRELAND) BILL.
f Englishman who, under a heavy storm 4 guns and netts- This bill was then passed through committee, and the
if ketry, rushed forward and saved the life of a Russian house resumed.
i- officer, who was being ill-used by some fanatics. Some- COURTS OF COMMON LAW (IRELAND) BILL.
4 times they did find a combination of great qualities, and This bill was also committed pro forma, after which
if in this instance it must be acknowledged that the hu- the house again resumed.
g manity of this officer was only equalled by his modesty. INDUSTRIAL AND PROVIDENT SOCIETIES
it Ho was sure that, if they passed that vote, General BILL.
Williams himself, though he would gratefully appreciate On the motion of Lord GODERICH this bill was
n the recognition of his services by Parliament, would feel read a second time, and ordered to be committed.
e that something was wanting to make his satisfaction PAWNBROKERS BILL.
d c implete, if his honours were not shared by those whose This bill was also teed a second time, and ordered to
d counsel and co-operation had contributed to his rewards, be committed
I. (Hear.) He (Mr. Fitzgerald) thought the Government MARRIED WOMEN'S REVERSIONARY--
I, might hove taken this into consideration, and, still INTEREST BILL.
t, more, he hoped that no official routine-nothing of what This bill was read a third time, with amendments, and
to was called red-tapiqn-would prevent unprecedented passed.
services from meeting with unprecedented rewards. NATIONAL GALLERY BILL.
d Col. NORTH, remarking upon the fees that were This bill was read a third time and passed.
e payable upon the conferring of a baronetcy, observed MAYNOOTH COLLEGE BILL.
it that, upon the occasion of Sir J. Burgoyne's baronetcy On the motion of Mr. SPOONER the second reading
is being brought before the house, the fees were paid by of this bill was postponed to Wednesday, the 25th of
d the Government. He hoped that this would be done in June.
it the present instance. The remaining orders were then disposed of, and the
n Sir G. GREY intimated that such would be the case. house adjourned until Monday, the 19th inst., at seven
Col. NORTH said he was very happy to hear it. He minutes to two o'clock.
ei had heard that a great number of additions were to be
9• made to the Order of the Bath on the occasion of her COURSE OF EXCHANGE.-YmExpat.
1- Majesty's birthday. He hoped that the services of some d.
11 9,14 Gibraltar .............. -
Le officers who had been overlooked hitherto would not he "Tilter Ditto, Athmree-m-o'hih's. :: 12 lai Leghorn .. • . .1..... .... 30 1234
le forgotten. Let them take the case of Lieut.-Colonel Botterdam ............ 12 1% Genoa ........••...... 2b 90
Le Pack.. What were the circumstances there ! His late Antwerp .............. 25 70 Milan ...... - ........ -
10 lamented friend Col. Yea commanded a brigade on the I,'lraum"ben'srel• •.; *.• "•::: r 35 71? 1 , iiri.elileees ':::::::." - 7. '.". 43-16
an occasion of the attack on the Redan. He was shot down Altona ..•• .... :: ::.... -is Palermo ....
11 within 30 or 40 yards of the fortress, and consequently Part 5........ -........ 25 45 Messina ... ... 130%
it was not able to sign the casualty return. Lieut.-Colonel Ditto, three months :: 255 75s Lisbon :: .... ..... • ...•: 550,
le Packe's name was thus unfortunately omitted by Lord seloaurg e Ls; .... ::::: : 1: .. - Rlio Janeiro •••••• • • • • .. --
18 Raglan in the despatches, and he was therefore deprived Frankfort-on Maine.... 121% Buenos Ayres.... •..... -
e of the Order of the Bath, from the circumstance of his Berlin •• •• •••••••• •• -: niTaTeolrleao days' eight --2
1 0-2 4
being badly wounded at the head of his regiment. It =tit::: •.: •.: •.::::::::. 10 26 PaicL or
in ;e1.,: 'PIM oz.
le was necessary that some change should b 3 made in Petersburg ............ 364 Foreign Gold in Bars 43 17 9
sr the statutes of the order. He was glad to hear that the Madrid .........., .... 49% Portugal Gold Coin .• 0 0 0
le fees of the baronetcy were always to be remitted. Cadiz ......... • • .:.... 50 Mexican Dollars .... 0 5c%
Barcelona ............ - New Dollars ......0 0 0
t- Sir G. GREY-No, no. ievale..•••• ........- - Silver in bars ...... 05 1%
a- Col. NORTH—At least, then, he hoped, when it was
11- conferred for distinguished services. -
to Mr. STAFFORD said-That as the noble lord bad SEABORNE MAILS.
Ig paid so graceful a tribute to the services of Gen. Williams, -.ea.__
)12 be would not attempt to add anything to the subject ; •tN signifies that the mails are sent from the treriditriostFelor-
r- but he could not let the opportunity pass without pay- by the night-and Mby the morning-despatch.)
er ins some tribute to the merits of Dr. Sand with. Why Day when intuit t.l. From was War,.
ii; was Dr. Sand with here ? From a cause equally honour• coteNTRLICe. in General Post- Port due 11
`°- able to himself and Gen. Mouravieff. Impressed with Office, London.* Dispatchec, mould.
W the great humanity and skill with which he had treated, -----„ ------ -----.
rit ceee Every Friday •• • • Liverpool ... May 7
[n not only Turks, but also Russian prisoners, Gen. Mou- L'errlcci,a(tbbYy`yilaa Sts
E revieff set him free at once. That was a great credit to packet) ....•• •• --le •••• •• -•- . Liverpool ...
Dr. Sandwith. He (Mr. Stafford) would not suggest to edezeica (by 13. Staten
...N •• se• • • Southampton
the Government the course they ought to pursue, but he e'l 16rnckeleit2 i:(via' 'South-
l- thought he might leave the case of this humane and ho- pten) .....••• ••14 w ••• w•• • • Southamptor
le neurable man in their hands with perfect confidence. Ditto (via Marseilles) N
00 Mr. WATSON, referring to the case of Lieut. Tees- auto (via Cape o( Gold
... Uncertshs
r, dale, said that he was a very young officer, who had kflgliiv.e.gt. UZI; ::
.14,1% 23d °stile month ..weemouth ..
a• shown the greatest gallantry ; but he was only a lieute- -e exandria ----le
.9,_ 20th24 of mon.isouthamptor
er
, & 30 of n,•'Dover ...... ,
1)1 nant of artillery, with 35 officers over his head. Judging k105andria..........1.1,p &
Bahamas • •• •....... Ninth of the month [Southampda
from the ability which this officer had shown in the de- Belgium
........... i„1Dai1y........... Dover ...... Daily
in fence of Kars, in defending batteries, and bringing up his Brazil .............. AI 9th of the month.. Southampton May 16.
at guns-and considering how rare that ability was in the HnettostAY'rea•• •• •• ..11 9th of the month.. Southampton May 16
to army-he (Mr. Watson) did hope he might obtain the Cape °,3,.i Good °`A
! Hope • .I.' Various port Uncortaly
promotionheHope ..Ir
he deserved. Casa de Verde .... .. Is 9th of the month Southampton
'"" The motion was then agreed to. Ceylon (see India)
se The house re-umed. Ceylon .............•a
a Channel isles.... ~..e ;Mon „Wed.,Strde ~Southamptof en.Th.Sst
be
THE POLICE (COUNTIES AND BOROUGHS) Chi1i................ A, i'ld 8r 17th of monC•touthampto
BILL. China ... :Once a month....
8,13,18,23,8:2s of ii Dover..,,-.
Constantinople ......e
4th Sz; 20th of -non. Southampton May 20
The house went into committee on this bill. Constantinople
n,
7t- On clause 11, Cont. of Europe 111 & N Twice daily ...... Dover .... • rwicedati
r, 'Twice dai1y...... Dover ....
in Sir W. JOLLIFFE moved to leave out so much of the
FErgaynpete(s.c.e..litt..d.i.a)3l
g,
17, 20, 27 4 m South unto, TwicGdalli
of clause as made the payment by the Treasury of a portion Gibraltar ..........51 4,7,
ye of the charge for the police in counties and boroughs de- Greece*, India)
pendent upon the certificate of the Secretary of State. Greet own mi2nd & 17th of mon. Southampto)
ti °,w ,"'''' " - , Tuesday & Friday ,London ;h1
The Secretary of State was at present armed with suffi- rianniva.:l-Inragh".•::• •• •••••••
Nl'l idnd of the mouthlSouthatn•p••ta June 1
ch
'..
*. m [Da.fie........... I)over ....... DE„iiy, ..'
cient powers under the General Police Act. Suppose this Holland .....:::
Ma c /the month.iSouthamptor.
se
clause should become law, would it tend to make the aoneuras ..........m1
)m4th e 20th of mom• Plymouth ..
x•
police more efficient in counties and boroughs ! Re India (viaSouthampt. 4&20 m
re lndia (via Marseilles) m 19,118 z 25th of month I Dover ..... 16thol.no
17, & 27 of men Dover...." I
thought not, and therefore he trusted the clause would lonian Isles (see ineta)l7,
be altered. Ireland ........m & N', Twice daily -- - 11°I., head • - Twieedailf
17, & 27 of nn. Southampton
After a few words from several hon. members, Liseen .............. ml 7, 9, may 16
tee Sir G. GREY se ,[9th of the month Southampton
lr. said that he thought he should con- Madeira ••"•••••• "sl23d or month .... Liverpool ...,
en introducing
~,,, suit the feelings of the committee by a pro_ Malta (see India) - -1•'
',.-1,- vise to the effect that before the Secretary of State re- Maltal (............, ,,,i8, IS, &28 of mon. Dover .....- 4, 20 me,
fused his certificate the report of the inspectors should be Mauritius (see India) 1
Itanritina
..........N 114th of the month
Lc-
-1,8 sent to the justices of the peace or the watch committee
an opportunity of re- )Mexico ......_
__
_•m 2nd of the month., Southampten Mme'
I; t
Naples
...
~
.:"..::::xlsthlsth2sthormon.!Dover ...• •. -
affected thereby, who should have
New Granada
......m 2,1& 17th of monthlSouthamptoi
n•
plying to the statements_ c,octained in the report, and y private skip .. !Various port •
ht
P/TewalZealand IBUnCertaill •
then, if the Secretary ot Stele still felt bound to withhold 15 thlsth2sthofmon. Dover ...
?r- •
his certificate, the papers showing the grounds uponPPeninsula.)aa.) State.s.
... .. ~ .. JS
,Ithi7th27thotinon. *etithaseplo•;
'ld & 27th of mon.l.southamptoe
Ile ...m
which it was so withheld would be laid before Parlia- Peru
•..........:•....M
[re
merit. (Hear.) He would make a proviso to the effect Poll Natal ..........N Z,t,l")::l2.„tisTP7••lis;arwus P'artP Uneertain
............, Athl,th2:,thofmon. Dover ...... -- -•
&..eliy ,„ „„ ~, ........N _ ~ _ to men, . over .....
at the proper time.
2d it 17th of
Tuscany
ti. Sir J. PAKINGTON expressed himself satisfied with Venezueis .........31 month Southampton i& 18 men
lg
the proviso. Van Diemen'sloknd (sec
ninstralia) ...... „ •
West hole,
....
..,,,112d& 17th ot month riouthamptati
Sir W. JOLLIFFE said that many of the objections
b' which he entertained to the clause were removed by the
proviso, but he still thought the clause objectionable. Whenany of these dates fall on a Sunday, the mails will uc oe-
He would not, however, divide the committee. spatched on the following day, with the exception of the India te a
IV •;outliampton), and the Malta, both of which will be despatched 1: e
e The amendment was then withdrawn, preceding day.
of
Sir H. WILLOUGHBY moved as an amendment,
that one-half the expense, instead of one-fourth, should SHARE MARKETS.
be defrayed out of the Consolidated Fund.
•
Sir G. GREY said that the clause relieved the property
r'B in counties from the payment of a rate to which it hal LIVERPOOL, MIT 9.
n- been formerly liable. When the hon. member said that STOCK EXOHANGII.-The market has been quiet to-day,
ii. this police rate was so unjust with respect to the pro- oßowing butrates:-L prices are a shade lower than yesterday, closing at the
f n-
party upon which it was charged, he thought he had Caledonians, 29k i North-Western ancashire and Yorkshire, 98* 9
-London and North-Weste 1001
-
;r" much over-stated the case. He felt bound to state that
South Easterns, 211 i-Midlands, 74/3 i k -Manchester,
the Government had maturely considered the subject, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire, 2831-Dutch Rhenish, 1k f
3n and they believed that one-fourth was a fair proportion, prem.-North Eastern, Berwick, 194-Birkenhead, Lan-
I and, in making that proposal, he trusted the committee cashire, and Cheshire, 221. shares, 124 -East Lancashire,
to would sustain him. 19-Royal Insurance, 1i pm.-Liverpool and London Fire
3r- Mr. KNIGHT supported the amendment. and Life, 6 pm.
Mr. H. BENTINCK had not heard anything from
as the right hon. gentleman which would justify the pro- BIRTHS.
tee posal of the Government.
se The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he OF A SON.
nt apprehended there was no class of persons charged with On the Bth inst., at 151, Albany-street, Regent's-park,
Mrs. lee direct taxes who were so numerous as the ratepayers of Aguilar.
the country. The question, therefore, raised by the hon. inst.,
On the 9that 7, Amersham-road, New-cross, Mrs.
ad
hart. (Sir I
Willoughby) was nothing more nor less i G. C. Chad Stuart.
I.
to than whether they should transfer this charge from the OF A DATIGHT/M.
On the 7th inst.at 14 Glace, Laxly .)n present ratepayers to the Queen's taxes. He thought
is- that, if the soheine of taxation recommended by the hon. On the Bth inst.,, at_ 12, ,St.rosvenor- George's-p terrace, HyScottde-park,
the wife of Clayton W. F. Glyn, Esq.
ir• bart. were adopted, it would be found to be anything but
he an advantage to the State. He hoped the committee MARRIED.
, would confine itself to the simple proposition before the On the 9th inst., at St. Peter's Church, Eaton-square,
'..-Y house. If the house adopted the motion of the hon. hart. Hugh MacCalmont Cairns, Esq., M.P., to Mary Harriet,
.111 it would create considerable difficulty to the Govern- slaughter of the late John M`Neile, Esq., of Parkmount,
rk tnent, and it would be a matter for them to c msider co. Antrim.
At St. Saviour's Church, Walton-place, Chelsea, S. B.
to whether they should proceed foe ther with the bill. Jennings 'Esq. youngest son of the late Captain Jenings,
tie Mr. E. DENISON thought that, taking into conside- R.N., to Rhoda' Ann,bwidow of the late Wm. Gene, Esq.,
ration what the Government would gain by the abolition of Brompton.
_ of transportation, they would save even by adopting the DIE D.
"' motion of his hon. friend, charging one-half of the ex- -
;ee
jouhnn he Bth inst., at 16, Somerset-street, Portman-square,
pense of the rural police on the Consolidated Fund.
ar Nothing could be more unjust than the manner in which Eyton, eldest son of the late W. H. Perry, Esq., of
Shrewsbury, aged 20.
ed the county rate was levied. On the 7th inst., the Rev. John Hunt, of Brixton, for-
of Mr. ROEBUCK said he entirely concurred that, by merly minister of Union Chapel, and Secretary to the Pro-
be admitting one-fourth, they admitted the whole principle. testant Union, aged 82.
[in The proposal of the hon. bart. was nothing more than On the 7th lust., at Southwood Lodge, Cheltenham,
it, a concealed system of communism, which would place a Joseph Camps, aged 57.
ad large sum on the table for everybody to grasp at. He late Rear Admiral Sir Edward Berry, Bart., K.C.B-, On the 7th inst., at Bath, Lady Berry, widow of the
er did not wish to place in the hands of the Government
aged 76.
re any increased powers of surveillance. He objected to their On the sth lust. at at Witney, R. Early, aged 61.
ha being allowed to send down inspectors, on the faith of On the 18th ult., in New York, Mr. John S. Bengough,
.q.- whose report should depend whether one-fourth were of London, and of the firm of Echeguren, Quintana, and
so given out of the consolidated fund. This one fourth bad Co , Mazatlan, Mexico.
se been put in the bill as a sop to hon. members opposite, - --- I=o
id Before it was inserted, the country gentlemen were
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