The Sun.
London, England, 1860-08-23 00:00:00

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PERSIA AND INDIA

On the motion of Colonel SYKES certain returns relative
to the Persian expedition and India were ordered to be laid
on the table.

COMMUNICATION WITH AUSTRALIA AND
NEW ZEALAND.

In reply to Mr. HENNESSY,
Mr. LAING said he was not aware that there was any
intention on the part of the Government to apply for ten-
ders for the Australian postal service by way of Panama.
There was a contract for that service by way of the Isthmus
of Suez, which was the preferable route between, this coun-
try and Australia.
THE HIGH SHERIFF OF SURREY.

Mr. B. COOHRANE said that, considering the high
character of Mr. Evelyn, the High Sheriff of Surrey, and
that he had acted under a misapprehension in the circula-
tion of the handbill which had incurred the displeasure of
her Majesty's judges, the fine of £5OO imposed on him
should be remitted.
Sir G. LEWIS said he had no doubt of the high cha-
racterof Mr. Evelyn, the High Sheriff of Surrey, but if that
gentleman wished to present a petition to her Majesty on
the subject of his fins, he might do so through the Home-
Office. He had seen the placard in question, and it cer-
tainly did appear to him a most objectionable circular, and
he considered that the judges were justified in taking a very
serious notice of his conduct.

CONSOLIDATED FUND APPROPRIATION BILL.
This bill went through committee.
EXCHEQUER BONDS (02,000,000) BILL.
This bill also went through committee.
MILITIA PAY BILL.

The bill was read a third time and passed.
METROPOLITAN POLICE FORCE (DOCKYARDS

No. 2) BILL.
This bill was read a third time and passed.
UNION OF BENEFICES BILL.

The house again went into committee on this bill.

On clause 14,
Mr. HUBBARD moved to add, "And the scheme for
the removal of any church or parsonage shall provide for
the erection of another church or parsonage within tho
limits of the metropolis."
The motion was agreed to.
Mr. POTTS moved the following addition to the
clause :—" That the sale of any church or site of any church
proposed to be sold by the powers 9f this bill, may not take,
place within two years after the completion of the scheme
for the drainage of the metropolis, and not then, unless it
can be proved that the populations of the parishes in which
such churches were situated have not increased, and the
c ,ngregations attending such churches have not numeri-
cally increased."
After some discussion, the amendment was withdrawn.
The house divided on the motion, that the clause do stand
part of the bill—
Ayes ... • 38
Noes
Majority —l2
lr
The clause was accordingly agreed to, as well as clause

Clauses 16, 17, and 18, were agreed to.
On clause 19,
Mr. E. JAMES said that 13 of the parishes of the city of
London which, escaped the fire of 1666 were liable, under
the statute of Henry Bth to the charge of 2s 9d. per pound.
The parish of St. Martin Outwich, in the City of London, was
now occupied by insurance offices and other large establish-
ments, and yet the rector made a charge of £250 a-
year for tithes in one particular case, and stated
—as was the case—that under the act in ques-
tion he could claim £5OO a year. This clause re-enacted
that all existing rights should be preserved and the conse-
quence was that tithes could be enforced when the churches
where service was supposed to be performed might per-
haps be remove! to the suburbs of the metropolis.
After some discussion the clause was agreed to, as were
the clauses to 28 inclusive.
The remaining clauses were also agreed to.
Mr. H. SEYMOUR gave notice that on bringing up the
report on this bill he should move a clause, to the effect
that persons of dissenting denominations might be enabled
to purchase the churches for religious purposes that would
be disused in consequence of the union of benefices. His
object was to prevent any hole-and. corner jobbing on the
part of the Ecclesiastical Commission in regard to these
edifices.
Mr. VANCE moved the addition of a clause, to the effect
that no scheme for the sale of churches should be submitted
to her Majesty in Council until it had been laid before both
Houses of Parliament for two months.
Mr. E. JAMES said the bill conferred enormous powers
on the Ecclesiastical Commissioners, and he felt bound to
support the proposed clause.
Mr. J. LocKE and Mr. MA.LINs supported the clause.
Sir J. GRAHAM followed on the same side. He said
that he as well as the hon. member who had chat•ge of the
bill (Mr. Bouverie) was a member of the Ecclesiastical Com-
mission, and he certainly could not ask the house to place
unlimited confidence in that body. If this bill passed with-
out the proposed clause, Parliament would lose all control
over the commission in regard to pulling down churches in
the City. He was opposed to the bill, and voted in the
minority against it, and he certainly would object to it
more stroagly than ever if it passed without this clause.
Mr. BOUVERIE said that the House of Commons
was already overburdened with business, and the powers
conferred on vestries prevented the possibility of anything
objectionable in regard to this matter being committed by
the Ecclesiastical Commission. He said if checks like the
present were imposed on the bill it would be rendered ino-
perative.
Some further discussion ensued, but
Mr. BOUVERIE consented to the introduction of the
clause, which was read a second time, and added to the bill.
The preamble was then agreed to, and the house resumed.
METROPOLIS LOCAL MANAGEMENT ACT
AMENDMENT BILL.
On the motion for resuming the adjourned debate on the
consideration of this bill as amended,
Mr. TITE said that instead of proceeding with the de-
bate he would, under all circumstances, move that the order
for considering the bill be discharged. The hon. member
proceeded to show, at some length, that he was justified in
introducing the bill, and he was induced not to press it for-
ward, solely on account of the late period of the session.
After some remarks from Mr. BRADY and Mr. Siznr-
DA.N,
The order was discharged.
ENDOWED CHARITIES BILL.
This bill, as amended, was considered, and orlered for
third reading.

NAVAL DISCIPLINE BILL.
This bill, as amended, was considered, and :ordered for
third reading.
ROMAN CATHOLIC CHARITIES BILL.
On the order of the day for the third reading of this bill,
Mr. BUTT moved that it be recommitted. He said that
the bill was introduced by the hon. baronet the member
for Dundalk (Sir G. Bowyer) as a measure of relief to
Roman Catholics, but that hon. member considered that,
from the alterations that had been made in the bill, it be-
came a penal measure. He contended that the hill had
been discussed with great attention, and without any pre-
judice in regard to the Romon Catholic body. 13e thought
that the recommittal of the bill would enable tire house to
pass the measure in a form that would remove the appre-
hensions entertained by Roman Catholic membi ars in refer-
ence to the alterations introduced.
Sir G. LEWIS said he did not think any advantage
would result from the course proposed by th e hon. mem-
ber. He said it was not desired by those who supported
the alterations to interfere with Roman Catholic charities,
and the bill was intended merely to meet :a provisional
state. Ho contended that the bll in its present form was
a measure of relief, and not a final measure.
Mr. HENLEY thanked the Attorney-General for the
care he had bestowed on this bill.
After some remarks relative to the debate on this bill
last night by Sir J. Bowyer, Lord Palmerston, and the
Attorney-General, the motion was negatived.
The bill was then read a third time and paseed.
COURT OF CHANCERY BILL
This bill, as amended, was considered, and it was
ordered for third reading.
PARTY EMBLEMS (IRELAND) B ILL.
This hill was read a third time and passed.
CHURCH TEMPORALITIES (IRELAND) ACTS
AMENDMENT BILL.
On the motion for going into committee on this bill,
Mr. VANCE drew attention to thd salarie s paid to the
clerks and other officers connected with the fir st Ecclesias-
tical Commission, which was only one-third e' f that which
was paid to those employed in the Ecclesiastical Commis-
sion in England.
On the motion of Mr. CARDWELL clauses 1,2, 3,5,
7 and 8 were omitted.
Clause 4 was agreed to.
Clauses 9 to 16 inclusive, with several amendments,
were agreed to.
The remaining clauses were agreed to.
On the motion of Mr. FREELAND, the f ollowing now
clauses were added to the bill: —The term El )iscopal Com-
missioner, in section 7 of the said acts of tb.o 3d and 4th
years of King 'William, chapter 37, shall be hold to in-
clude not only any archbishop or bishop ac :tint; as eccle-
siastical commissioner under the s aid act or
this act, but also any commissioner appointed by
the said Lord Primate and Lord Archbishop of
Dublin in manner in the said act herein. provided. In
any case in which the said commission erg shall have
under consideration matters specially affecting the interests
of any bishop, dean, or chapter of Ireland, such commis-
sioners map, if they think fit, request the attendance at any
meeting at which such matters are to be taken into consi-
deration, of any bishop, dean, or Inembers of a
chapter whose interests or property such matters
shall or may affect, and he or they shall be
at liberty to attend at any such meeting, and to assist the
said commissioners with information and advice, but shall
not vote or, except as aforesaid, take any part in the pro-
ceedings of the said commissioners. If Liter the passing
of this act her Majesty or her successors Allan, under the,.
powers of section 2 of the act of the 3d and 4th year? °!.
King William the Fourth, chap. 37, appoint two
tical commissioners, one only of the saiti commissioners
shall be a paid commissioner. d the house re-
The CHAIRMAN reported progress, a u
sumed. ecolestas
The other orders of the day were thou,. disposed of, and
the house adjoured at 20 minutes to six 0 cloc.

t-hr through tetabv ,e air, surcharged clouds
THE WEATHER IN SCOTLAND.--Cloudy, sullen
skies, and heavy occasional showers, stilt continue the order
of the day. On Saturday and d Sun_ day' comparatively little
rflaoiantefde,l la,
tbnuot forreath
and seemed to
threaten an immediate deluge. In En gland the quantity of
rain which has fallen would appear
to h ave been considera-
gLuir height, each
bly greater than in the south ern and ei astral parts of Scot-
land ; whilst in the highlands it has . ,
,been in some places
considerably less. This accounts tor t: he somewhat singe'
lar position of things in regard to the h 3.ryes t the crops in
Scotland being in many instances more advanced than they
are in the south.—Glasgow At
°rning ournal.
A HEAVY GAS BILL.--The New York corre-
spondent of the Mobile Register re. I tee the following :
Recently a gentleman returned from .
litrope. He had been
absent with his family ' Ha aid his
a p gas bill
seven month a.
the day be left, and the house had nc A been opened for seven
months, yet when
it was the gas m .an took a return from
the meter, and a bill was made out f pr 52 dols. Mr. Grinnell
went and complained to the secrets my, related the circum-
stances, and threatened exposure ofs, ach a barefaeed robbery.
He refused to pay the bill. "Vey' well, sir," said the awe-
tary. Mr. Grinnell went home ar id told his wife, I, Pay
it," said she. " Why so r" Salt he • " Because," said she,
" the day we left Now York I 14;d to go back to, the house
for some article I had forgot. Tr 4 f window-shir tters wore
fastened ; I lit the PYL The &I'm day, when we returned,
I found it still burning." The. bi 11 was paid, fc I a steady
gas flame had been burning fo-t aci on, mouths.