The Sun.
London, England, 1869-04-23 00:00:00

IRISH CHURCH BILL.

Mr. GLADSTONE, in reply to Sir F. lleygate, said he
did not think the Irish Church Bill would be the best
place to introduce a clause enabling limited owners of land
to borrow, and the Commissioners for Public Works to
lend sums not exceeding a fixed per centage of the value
of such land repayable upon the principal of thu loans for
drainage, farm buildings and labourers houses, for the
purpose of assisting in the erection of churches, chapels,
and places of worship. Ile thought lit best to deal with
the matter in a separate bill, and as soon as the committee
on the Irish Church Bill had been concluded a bill would
be brought in to carry out such a proposal.
The house then resumed the Committee on the bill pro-
moted by her Majesty's Government.
Sir G. JENKIN SON moved au amendment to provide
for the case of a vacancy in a parish taking place within a
few months of the passing of the act in parishes which
had hitherto been well cared for, so as to provide
for the parish not being left without any spiritual in-
structor. The college of Maynooth was the only
permanent endowment which bad boon made by the bill,
but be hoped the First Lord of the Treasury would adopt
the spirit of the amendment if ho objected to the words in
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which ho had expressed it.
Mr. GLADSTONE denied that any permanent endow-
ment had been made to the Collego of Maynooth. lle
could not accept the amendment of the hon. litrouot op-
posite, because if he were to do so it would be creating a
perpetual endowment in every parish.
The amendment was eventually peg-dived without a

Mr. yin then moved an amendment t the effect that
where tho haler of benefices which did not at pre-
sent produce .£25(), the commissioners should, in the
event of his b2ing twenty-five years in the Church, give
hint annuity to that extent, as the present measure cut him
off from all future preferment.
Mr. GLADSTONE said ho couli not agree to the
amendment. He could not undertake to provide for the
loss of all prosp3ct of promotion, because the prospects
were so extremely indefinite.
After a long conversation the amendment was with-
drawn.

Two additions were made to the clause on Mr. Gla

stone's motion, modifying the conditions under which the
annuities to curates are to be deducted from the life inte-
rests of incumbents, and providing that when the curate
dies his annuity shall revert to the incumbent. They
gave rise to much discussion, and an amendment, moved
by Sir Roundell Palmer, to make it certain that the curate
to be compensated out of the incumbent's annuity shall b.,
a permanent curate, vas rejected by a majority of 93 (22l

to 128).
Clause 15, which regulates the compensation to curates,
was also discussed at great length. Numerous verbal
amendments were made, and it was long past 10 o'clock
before it was finally agreed to.
On clause 16, an amendment moved by Mr. Charley was
defeated by 115-311 to 199.
In the middle of clause 18 a motion was made to report
progress and defeated by a majurity of 113-289 to 176 ;
but Mr. Gladstone yielded to a second motion to the s tine
effect, and the Committee was adjourned soon after mid-
night until to-night.
Several bills were forwarded a stage, and the house ad-
journed at 25 minutes past 1 o'clock.