The Sun.
London, England, 1860-02-24 00:00:00

ELECTION

C 031311 27.E.ES,—(This Day.)

WEYMOUTH.
The committee appointed to try the petition presented
against the return of Lord Grey de Wilton and Mr. Brookes
re-assembled this morning—Mr. E. C. Egerton in the
chair.

Mr. Sergeant Piggott appeared for the petitioners, and
Mr. F. Slade and Mr. Pickering for the sitting members.
James Fizzen, examined by Sergeant Piggott, said he
had been sent for to the George Tnn, where he saw a Mr.
Ibbs, who took him into a room half lighted, and laid down
twelve sovereigns, which he took up and put into his pocket.
Mr. Ibbs was a member of Lord Grey de Wilton's com-
mittee. He understood the money was for his vote.
In er,ss-examination, by Mr. Pickering, witness said he
did not see Mr. Ibbs put down the money on the table in
the room where he found it. Mr. Ibbs came out and said,
"Go in, there's something for you." He (witness) went
in and saw the money lying on the table, and supposing the
money was intended for him, he picked it up and put it in
his pocket. (Laughter.) He had never received any money
before for his vote. In 1858 he voted one and one. Would
swear he never received money for voting.
By the Chairman—He showed Mrs. Carter the money.
How he came to do so was, that, as he had been sent for
she noticed the fact, and said she supposed they wanted
him for something. He then said—holding out the twelve
sovereigns in his hand—" That's what I've got." He had
not got the mon:y now, but Mrs. Carter had got 9 of the
sovereigns. He was positive he showed her 12, but she's
now got 9 ; wo afterwards changed them. He meant by
that that the sovereigns were changed for other money,
because he thought that would destroy the evidence about
the money. The 12 sovreigns he got in the first instance were
then changed, and he gut a£s note and 4 sovereigns. lie
now thougth it was 9 sovereigns. He was now positive it
was only 9 F overeigns he showed Mrs. Carter.
The Chairman—You are giving your evidence in a very
unsatisfactory way. What do I understand you to say ?
Did you show Mrs. Carter 12 or 9 sovereigns.
Witness—l got twelve sovereigns, but there is some
sovereigns now that can be produced.
Chairman—Did you show Mrs. Carter 90r12 ? I must
caution you. You have sworn once or twice you showed

her 12.
Witness—l got 12, and I showed her 9. That's the
truth. I owed 3 sovereigns to a person, and I paid it.
Re-examined by Sergeant Piggott—l can't recollect the
name of the person to whom I paid the money. I paid
Capt. Grey 18s. I know I owed the money, and it was
paid. I can't recollect anything further about the money.
Chairman—Let me caution you; you have given your
evidence in a very unsatisfactory manner, and if you don't
alter your mode I shall commit you.
Witness—l don't wish to say anything but the truth;
only I can't recollect things clearly now.
Chairman—What reason did Mrs. Carter give you for
taking the sovereigns ?
Witness—l had no motive for giving her the sovereigns,
and she none for taking them.
Mr. Dodson--Were you sorry or glad she took the money?
Witness—l can't recollect. (Laughter.)
Mr. Dodson—Who did you vote for in 1857 ?
Witness—l think for Mr. Butler.
Sergeant Piggott—We've got the poll books.
Mr. Pickering—Well, he did not vote at all, as I have
been informed. (Laughter.)
George Symes a pork-butcher and voter, was next exa-
mined, and said—lbbs asked me how I was going to vote.
I said I didn't know. He asked me if I would take a little
money. He offered £2O. I said that wouldn't do. He
He then gave a jump up to £3O. (Laughter.) I said
that wouldn't do. Ho theia made another jump
to £lO. (Renewed laughter.) I said if I voted
for his party, I should want two or three such lots as that.
(Increased laughter.) I thought the offer was seriously
meant. On tho polling day I was at: the White Horse
Inn. It was hard on 3 o'clock. I afterwards polled for
Freestun and Campbell. I had no money for my vote. I
was never promised anything by any party connected with
the Great Eastern to vote for Mr. Campbell. I never said
I would vote for the other side for £2O or £3O. I never
said so to Lee. Lee offered me something on the polling day.
He asked what I would take. I told him I should not take
anything less than £5O. (Laughter.) This was between
two or three. Conservatives were then a-head on the poll.
He said he would go and see if ho could get it. I went
home. I did not wait for him, but polled between three
and four.