The Sun.
London, England, 1869-03-02 00:00:00

ELECTIONS.

Mr. DiUCE gave noti.!e that-, on Thursday next, he
sh mid move for a select committee to inquire into the pre-
sent mode of conduains Parliamentary and municipal

eleeti we.

CORRUPT PitACTICES AT ELECTIONS.

Mr. BRUCE, iu reply to Mr. V. Harcourt, said he could
not produce the various judgments given daring the trial
of e:eetiou petitions as they were rot under his control.
With respect to what caurso the Government intended to
take, that was indicated in the Lut:ca ho had already
given on the subject.
PAYMENT OF RATES.

In reply to Mr. LIDDELL,
Mr. GOSCIIEN said there was no legal indemnity tha
could be given to the owners of house property who un-
dertook the payment of rates for occupiers.

TIIE PUBLIC PARKS.

In reply to Sir H. 110.11 t;

Mr. LAYARD said steps were being taken t) restore
the grass in the open parts of th 3 public parks, but with
respect to the supervision of the persons frequenting those
places that was under the superintendence of the police. It
was even possible for the police to detect criminals merely
by their dress. (Laughter.)

THE IRISH CHURCH.
On the order of the day being real,
Mr. GLADSTONE rose amidst loud cheers to move
that the acts relating to the Mali Church be read.
• The Chief Clerk of the House (Sir D. Le Marchant)
having done so,
Mr. GLADSTONE then moved that the house resolve
itself into committee to consider thosa acts.

The motion having been agreed to, and the house
having gone into committee,
Mr. GLADSTONE said that fee motion ho should con-
clude with would be that the chairman be directed
to move the house that leave be given to bring in a bill to
put an end to the establishment of the Church in Ireland
and to make provision therefor,and in respect to the royal
college of Maynooth. He then said that the subject which
he proposed to submit to the house was one of the greatest
difficulty and importance, but he thought if the house gave
him their patience he should be able to show that the time
for the disestablishment of the Irish Church had arrived
(hear, hear) -the more especially so as the church popu-
lation in that country was in many parts merely official,
co siding of that of the clergymen, the clerk, and sexton.
He could not but think that many agreed with him that
they coull riot look back to the position of matters in that
country without shame-(hear, hear)—but for the resto-
ration of peace and prosperity it was now above all neces-
sary to take away that token and symbol of ascendancy
which, as long as it was allowed to remain, would neu-
tralize all efforts for the improvement of the
country. In proceeding with the question at that
moment they were taking up the unfinished work
of last year, and dealing with a question which
had been clearly put and definitively announced
by the last election. To that answer he would add the
resignation of the late Ministry, but on that subject he
i did not desire to pass ono word of censure beyond saying
I that it bore emphatic testimony to the character of the
Ijudgment of the people. He knew he should be met with
obj,:etioas that the proposal ho was about to submit to Par-
liament was adverse to the principles of Protestantism, but
!that was open to debate; and it would also be contended
that the proposition was against the Act of Union,
but be contended that the proposal he should have
I the honcur to submit was, on the contrary, confirming its
general principle. (Hear, hear.) In carrying out the dis-
establishment of the Irish Church, it was above all neces-
sary that the matter should be dealt with in a prompt and
rapid manner, for it was not the proper course to pur-
sue subject that establishment to a sloW and lingering
death. It was above all necessary tint their legisla-
I tion should be perfect and final, and that the great
disturbing question should pass for ever out of sight, out
of mind, and thus a new era ho hoped would dewu on Ire-
! land. It was not sought to inflict any penalty or pain
upon any ono by the Act they hoped would become law.
(Hear, hear.) Ono of the first matters that would occur
after the passing of the bill would be the winding up
; o: the present Ecclesiastical Commission in that country
and the foenatien of a zew One to exist for 11) years, to
which all questions would be submitte I, and the opi-
nion of Parliament would be taken on all in ,t-
-t.rs. With respect to the appointments it was pro-
pos scl such might be male for a limited period
without giving the person so appointed the freehold.
With respect to episcopal appointments it was thought
advisable to separate the Crown and all other appoint-
ments made during the tern he had mentioned, but
that no vested interests should be created. Those
proposals he believed would be all that would
11 be necessary to be done iu the intermediate period
and would take the place of the Suspensory Bill of last
year. The Comtnisien would be precluded from laying
out money for the erection of new churches ; but in the
expenditure of the funds committed to their charge they
would be strictly confined to making the necessary repairs.
During the iutervening period before thef ull operation of the
bill it proposed that the people should do that which the
people of other countries have done, viz., constitute for
themselves some sort of governing body; and, when such
a body had been formed, power would be taken for
its legal recognition. (Hear. hear.) It was proposed
that all these provisions should come into operation
on the day mentioned iu the bill, the Ist of January, 1871,
and on that day the union between the English and Irish
Church would be dissolved, and from that day the Church
of Ireland should cease to be established by law, and be
entirely and wholly disestablished. (Hear, hear.) are
should have to detain the house some time whilst ho
proceeded to slate how it was proposed to deal with
the vested interests of the Irish Church, because
they embraced various matters from the hightheestmoabtjteecrtss
down to the life interest in grave yards. (Laughter.)
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There was also the necessity for winding up
with respect to the college of Maynooth, and
financial also
sale of the church lards, and these would
utmost care being exercised. Th
these operations, Mr. Gladstone stated, thus .—The tithe
rent charge would yield £9,000,000 ; Lagds and Per-
petuity Rents, £6,250,000 ; Money, £7so,ooo.—total,
£16,000 000 ; the present value of the property of the Irish
Church. Of this bill would dispose of £8,650,000—
viz. :—Vested interests of incumbents, £4,900,000; cu-
rates, £800,000; lay compensation, £900,000; private
endowments, £500,000; building charges, £250,000;
commutation of Maynooth Grant and the Regium
Donum £1,100,000, and expenses of the Commission
£200,000. Consequently there would remain a surplus
of between £7,000,000 or £8,000,000; and Mr. Gladstone
roused the flagging attention of the House by the intetest-
ing question—What shall we do with it ? After keeping
the House some time in suspense, ho announced that
the Government Lad concluded to apply the surplus
to the relief of " unavoidable calamities and suffering"
not provided for by the Poor Law. Proceeding to
details he allocated £150,000 for lunatic asylums,
$20,000 a year to idiot asylums, £30,000 to training
schools for the deaf, dumb, and blind, £15,000 a year for
the training of nurses, £lO,OOO for reformatories, and
£51,000 to county infirmaries—in all £311,0G0 a year. Mr.
Gladstone concluded his speech, which occupied upwards
of three hours, in a peroration, which was cheered loudly
and long.

Mr. DISRAELI followed immediately, and declared,
with much emphasis, that the opinion of the Opposition
remained unchanged, that Disestablishment was apolitical
error, and Disendowment7.—especially when accompanied
by Secularisation—mere and sheer confiscation. He ad-
vised his friends not to oppose the motion, but he pressed
for a delay of three weeks before the second reading.
Mr. GLADSTONE declined to postpone it so long, and
ultimately the second reading was fixed for Thursday fort-
night, with which arrangement Mr. Disraeli expressed
himself satisfied.
Leave was then given to introduce the bill, and it was
road a first time.

.ree o'clock.—The market

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