The Sun.
London, England, 1860-08-10 00:00:00

MPEJIIAL PARLIAMENT

HOUgE OF LORDS—(THIS EVENING).
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack
at four o'clock.
The Forest of Dean Central Railway (No. 2) Bill was
read a second time. •
THE CLERGY AT WILLESDEN.
The Bishop of LONDON presented a petition from the
clergy and inhabitants of Willesden, in the county of Mid-
dlesex, complaining of the smallness of the salaries of the
clergy, and they prayed the house to pass such measures as
would insure an Increase of stipends to the clergy out of the
church property belonging to the district.
BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.
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Earl GRANVILLE, with respect to the question o_
the noble earl the other evening as to the business
the Government intended to proceed with, said the Go-
vernment intended to abandon the Lien on Freights
Bill. He much regretted :that course, because it
was a most important measure, but if the
thought proper to insist on the bill going forward he should
be ready to proceed. With respect to the other bills he
could not speak positively, but as regarded the Landlord and
Tenant Ireland Bill, it was most certainly the intention of
the Government to go on with it.
Lord REDESDALE said he had been told by a person
intimately acqUainted with the proceedings of the other
house, that if they continued the consideration of the esti-
mates at the present rate, they would get through them in
about two years. (Laughter.)
After a few words from the Marquis of CLANRICARD s,
Lord REDESDALE protested against the needless
waste of the present session. Her Majesty, he said,
had shown that she considered them excessively
slow, and instead of waiting for the close of the ses
sion, had taken her own holiday, and had gone off
to Scotland. The question was not how many days re-
mained for their lordships, but as many noble lords had
left town, it would be seriously prejudicial to the public
service if important measures were pressed forward at the
present time.
After a short conversation, in which the Dukeof Argyll,
Lord Monteagle, and Lord Denman took part, the subject
dropped.
POOR RELIEF (IRELAND) BILL.
Lord WODEHOUSE moved that as regards the Poor
Relief (Ireland) Bill, inasmuch as the Poor Law Commis-
sion in Ireland will, if not renewed, expire at the ease of
the present session of Parliament, the' circumstances
which require legislation on this subject appear to
this house to be of such real urgency as to render
the immediate consideration of the same necessary. The
noble lord took the opportunity of referring to many clauses
of the bill, and remarked that, with regard to clause 4,
which prohibited a man occupying a quarter of
an acre of land from receiving outdoor relief,
he did not think that it would be desirable
at the present period to press that enactment on their lord-
ships if they had any objection to it, but he thought it very
desirable that the third clause, which referred to placing
infants out to nurse, should be retained in the bill.
Lord MONTEAGLE said he had great objection to the
third clause, because it was in effect breaking the tie be-
tween parent and:child. He thought the clause ought to
be withdrawn, at least for the present.
The Earl of WESTMEAT 'said if the clause referred
to by the noble lord were withdrawn, the affair would
become a job. He thought a proper place ought to be pro-
vided in the workhouses for the reception of infants.
Lord REDESDALE said he objected greatly to certain
clauses being placed in continuance bills, and next session
he should move a standing order to meet his objection. He
could not think that either the third orfourtli clauses, which
created quite a new system, were such as ought to be
proceeded with on the ground of urgency. He had no ob-
jection to the second clause, and he should move an amend-
ment to secure the continuance of the act till next session,
but excluding the third and fourth clauses from the bill.
Earl GRANVILLE did not think that the bill was
,echnically what was called a continuance bill.
[LEFT SPEAKING.I

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(Tnis DAY.)
The SPEAKER took the chair at half-past twelve o'clock;
the house not having been formed before._

PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The following bills were read a third time and passed :
Beauchamp Almshouses Estate, Domvile's Estate, Duke
of Norfolk's Estate, Earl of Longford's Estate, and Gins-
tiniani's Naturalisation.

SUPPLY.

The house went into committee of supply.
On the vote of £100,440 for the maintenance of the
Royal parks,
Colonel DUNNE said that he drew the attention of the
house yesterday to the enormous taxation for purely metro-
politan purposes. It was too late this session to bring the
matter before the house, but he gave notice that next ses-
sion he would do so. In the meantime he would move that
the vote be reduced by £lB,OOO.
Sir J. SHELLEY referred to the observations of the
First Commissioner of Works yesterday, who blamed hon.
members who had differed from him in regard to the Ride
in Kensington-gardens, and he accused these hon. members
for the part they took in the agitation on this subject, of
being influenced by a desire of popularity. He had also to
complain of the attack which the hon. member had made
on the vestries of the metropolitan parishes in reference to
this matter. Now, from the position in which the metro-
polis was placed, the vestries were the guardians of the
public interest. He did not consider that in those remarks
the right hon. gentleman was likely to acquire much popu-
larity for himself or for the Government of which he was a
member. He very much doubted whether the right hon.
gentleman, who was cap-in-hand to the Town Council of
Hertford, would treat the expression of an opinion
from the constituency of that town, which had
the honour to return him to Parliament, with
so much disregard. He denied that the agitation in the
metropolis on this subject was one-sided, for the aristocratic
vestry. of St. Gearge's had memorialised against the altera-
tions in the gardens, which they called " Cowper's Folly."
(Laughter.) He also adverted to the mode in which memo-
rials in favour of the alteration in the gardens had been got
up, and read an advertisement which appeared in the Times
addressed to persons who wished to sign a memorial to the
Chief Commissioner of Works on the subject. The adver-
tisement stated where the memorial was lying, and said
if it were inconvenient to persons to attend there they
might forward their cards or signatures by post. He
strongly protested against signatures obtained in such a
manner. With respect to the ride itself, if it was to be a
continuation of Rotten-row it must be widened to a conei-
derable extent, and he would ask the right hon. gentleman
if he considered that a gravel road of such width would be
an improvement to Kensington-gardens. And yet in
order to render it a safe resort for equestrians it must be so
widened. lie thought, also, that they should have some
explanation respecting the result realised by the sum of
£17,000 voted for the Serpentine. He saw on the grounds
fountains without water—or figures holding water cans—
and unless the water was made to ascend it pould not flow
through these cans. He would further wish Itir some state-
ment as related to the sum of £lB,OOO for the drainage of
Richmond-park.
Mr. B. COCHRANE expressed a hope that Storey's
Gate would be thrown open, and strongly condemned the
people generally being taxed to so large an extent for me-
tropolitan purposes.
After some remarks from Mr. SMITH and Mr. BARROW,
Mr. AYRTON said he would prefer seeing the matter
placed in the hands of some metropolitan body, who would
.be the best able to manage these' parks, and would relieve
the Government from the trouble of dealing with them
future.
Mr. HENLEY was opposed to the opening of Storey's
Gate.
Lord FERMOY said he thought that in respect to the
parks, too much consideration had been shown for those
who rode on horseback. If any agitation on this question
had arisen, his right hon friend (Mr. Cowper) was the cause
of it, because he was the innovator, and broke down what
he (Lord Fermoy) thought a good custom, by
depriving
those who were unable to ride of a portion of the gardens.
The right hon. gentleman had commenced a dangerous
practice in appealing to the public on this subject, a game
at which two can play. In the park he had seen the green