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London, England, 1860-11-29 00:00:00

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a-li-chiaw, September 22, 1860.
tersigned, the Earl of Elgin and Kincardine, her
Britannic ...ajesty's Ambassador Extraordinary and Pleni-
potentiary in China, has the honour to acknowledge the
despatch of his Imperial Highness the Prince of Kung,
Minister Plenipotentiary, &c., under date the 21st Sep-
tember.
The Prince must be aware that, on the 19th instant,
the chief authority at Tuno•-chow was called on by the
Allied Commanders-in-Chief to intimate to the various
officers and gentlemen, subjects of England and
France, who had not yet returned, to repair without
delay to the head-quarters of the forces of their respec-
tive Governments. It was further intimated, through the
same channel, that if any hindrance were offered to the safe
and speedy return of any of the personsmissingt the conse-
quences would be the most serious to the Imperial Govern-
ment.
The undersigned has the honour to enclose a written
order, to all subjects of her Majesty now in Pekin at once
to comply with the above requisition.
Ho has only to add, that until they re-appear, he shall
not feel at liberty to call on the Commanders-in-Chief to
suspend hostilities, or to recommence negotiations upon the
subject of peace.
(Signed) ELGIN AND KINCARDINE.
His Excellency Prince Kung, Imperial Com-
missioner, &c.

Enclosure 4.
Pa-li-chiaw, September 22, 1860.
I, the Earl of Elgiu and li4ncardine, her Britannic
Majesty's Ambassador and High Commissioner in China,
hereby require all the subjects of her Majesty that may bo
at present in Pekin, to return forthwith to the head-quar-
ters of the British Army ; and should any attempt be made
on the part of the Chinee authorities to detain them, I
authorise them, individually or collectively, to protest'
against this proceeding of those authorities, and to warn
them of the consequences.
(Signed)

ELGIN' AND KINCARDINE.

111 R. LINDSAY AND TBE AMERICAN
SHIPOWNERS.

Our readers are aware that the hon. member for
Sunderland, Mr_ W. S. Lindsay, has volunteered,
on behalf of the shipowners of this country, to use
such influence as he possesses with the American
Government to induce it to amend its policy
respecting foreign shipping. It was indeed at first
rumoured that he was going to the United States
in an official or semi-official capacity in furtherance
of this design. But this report was distinctly con-
tradicted by Mr., „Lindsay himself, Who" -
declared that it was only as a private individual
that he was about to undertake the mission in ques-
tion. He had in fact for some time previously
devoted much of his time and attention to the
shipping question. He had taken a prominent
part at public meetings convened for the purpose of
discussing it. He had sat on the Parliamentary
committee which was appointed last session to
inquire into the subject, and to him the authorship
of the report lately printed has been generally and
we believe correctly attributed. It is under these
circumstances that Mr. Lindsay has visited the
United States. Whether or not he represents 's
majority of the shipowners of the United Kingdom
we are not prepared to say, for it is well known
that many of that body dissent from his views on
the subject of their alleged grievances, but he does
at any rate represent a considerable number of the
great commercial fraternity to whom he belongs,
and who are now no doubt watching with interest
his proceedings on their behalf.
Mr. Lindsay has so much to ask at the hands of
the American Government that we do not think
that either he himself or the most sanguine of his
friends can hope to be successful in all his de-
mands. There is, first of all, the question first
raised by an American statesman, Mr. Marcy, as
to the inviolability of all private property at sea
during war. That this would be a consummation
devoutly to be desired nobody will dispute. But
the difficulties in the way of its accomplishment
appear, at present at least, to be insurmount-
able. We may assume that this was the
conclusion at which the American Government
arrived after fully considering the matter, for the
proposal of Mr. Marcy and President Pierce was
subsequently withdrawn by President Buchanan.
Mr. Lindsay, however, is determined not to let the
subject drop, and in the report of his committee the
doctrine so strangely propounded and so strangely
withdrawn by the United States is again pressed
on the attention of our own Government. The com-
mittee state, and state truly, that the alterations
in the laws of maritime warfare effected by the late
treaty of Paris render it of far more importance
than formerly that all private property at sea
should be secure from capture. But we are not
informed whether or not Mr. Lindsay has induced
President Buchanan to reconsider the question.
The Cabinet at Washington is now occupied with
business of a more urgent kind; and we fear that
the volunteer champion of the British shipowner
stands but little chance at present of receiving a
favourable hearing.
Then comes the question of the coasting trade.
Will Mr. Lindsay 1e able to induce the Americans
to part with that monopoly ? No doubt he will
remind them of their promise made some ten years
since, when they told us that if we would give up
all they would give up all too. We have now
given up colonies, and coasting trade, and all.
America, far more than any other country, has
profited by our generous policy, yet she takes all
and gives us nothing in return. She has forgotten
her promise now that she has gained her object,
and, what is mere, we fear she has not now the
slightest notion of fulfilling it. It appears that
the matter was recently brought before the Cham-
ber of Commerce at New Yecrk by Mr. Lindsay,
but the only result was that it was referred to a
committee for consideration. To the same com-
mittee was referred another proposal of Mr. Lind-
say, namely, that foreign ships should have the
privilege of being registered in the United States
upon the same conditions under which foreign ships
may now be registered in Great Britain. It is not
difficult to anticipate the result. Our good friends
on the other side of the Atlantic have got from
us all they wanted, and it is not probable that
even Mr. Lindsay's powers of persuasion will in-
duce them to part with any commercial privilege
which they now possess. They know that ,Mr.
Lindsay-has nothing to offer in return ; they know,
or ought to know, that this country cannot now
revert to its former policy of exclusion and pro-
tection. The commercial advantages which we
accord to them are shared by all the world beside,
and they will certainly not be withdrawn in the
event of Mr. Lindsay's failure. Of these simple
truths the Chamber of Commerce of New York are
perfectly well aware, and will act accordingly.
But there are some points upon which the mer-
chants of New York are not only willing to adopt
the views of Mr. Lindsay, but are prepared to aid
him in carrying them into effect. The British ship-
owner complains that his in the case of
loss of life especially, are too high ; and the report
of the late committee recommended that they should
be reduced. The Chamber of Commerce at New
York take the same view, and they further propose
that the law of the two countries should be
assimilated upon this point. They also agree that
there ought to be an assimilation of the laws of
the two countries with reference to crimes
com-
mitted at sea, and that certain jurisdiction should
be given to the Consuls of both countries,
case of petty offences committed either
both
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port. They further agree that the s
should be carried by the vessels of ctobuentsraiemse
and that, in order to prevent collisions,
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rule of the road should be observed by
both.
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with the comparatively unimportant changes re-
commended by the New York Chamber of Com-
merce. As to the more important matters upon
which the latter abstained from expressing any
opinion—namely, the question of maritime rights,
the opening of the coasting trade, and the regis-
tration of foreign vessels in the United States, it is
still more easy to forese4the result—Morning Post. /7.

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