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If It was the opinioa of the Crown, and a notiority of ; liberty should be extended to all classes of her Majesty's , hoping it would have been heiter by that time. The
both Houses of Parliament, that !members of the Jewish ! subjects. This would not have been aChristiancommunity-t cavalry remained at Alma two days; and the first night
oertuasion ought to be excluded from this house, ex- ! but for the exertions of the Jews. (Rear, hear.) 1 a little forage was supplied, and the horses were then -
eluded they oust to be; but, until that course was 'He thought that was a fact that entitled them much below condition, having had to do 12 or 14 hours'
adopted, he contended that a great injustice was done to Ito the consideration and sympathies of that house. work a day with short rations. From the moment the
a certain portion of his fellow-subjects, who heel never :He should vote for the second reading of the bill, cavalry landed in the Crimea the supply was irregular
by any act of Parliament been excluded from sitting in i and in committee he should introduce the words "on and very short, and on one occasion the cavalry divided
that house. He concluded by moving the second read- I the true faith of a Christian" into the bill, their forage with the French. When they were within
ing of' the bill. 1 but at the same time he should propose a clause relieving a quarter of a mile of Balaklava barley was supplied to
Sir F. TH.ESIGER having explained the absence of i the members of the Jewish faith from the necessity of the cavalry, and the horses were in a better condition at
certain learned members, said it would: be quite incon-
.I taking it. (Loud cheers.) the battle of Balaklava than they had been pre-
sieteetif those like -himself who were . opposed to med I Mr. -NEWDEGATE said the measure was one catch- • piously, from the extra fodder that had been
done such as the preseot, did • not oppose the second .. lated to strike down the Christian -character of. that supplied, but they 'still suffered from'etant of water.
reading of this bill for the abolition of the oath of aide- house. _ _ ___ _ _., --- ._ . . _es _ • After marching to-the-plateau on the 30th 0ct:1854,
ration. The bill of the hon. member consisted of an The house was then cleared- fora • division-, 'and jest the horses had their allowance of barley, but only 81b.
assertion and an inference. The assertion was that the before the numbers were declared Sir F. Thesiger en- of-hay, whilst the artillery horses had 101 k. of.hay, and
descendants of the Pretender were at an end, and there- 1 tered the house, and informed the Speaker that the hon. on my remonstrating I was infarmed by Mr. Filder
fore the oath of abjuration should be abolished. The oath I member for Rochester had declined to vote, as he had that it was in accordance with Lord Raglan's
of abjuration was not merely a renunciation of the I entered the wrong lobby. orders, which I foolishly believed was the case, but
claims of the descendants ot the Pretender, but it The SPEAKER ordered the member for Rochester I afterwards found that the reduction had . been
asserted that the Sovereign should be a Protestant. to be brought in, and on his appearing at the table, made by the Commissary, and not by Lord Raglan's
The honourable member, in moving the secon-1 The SPEAKER asked the hon. member if he had orders. On the let November the light brigade
reading of the bill said he did not appear there as the heard the question put ? was ordered to take up a position seven miles from
advocate of Baron Rothschild, ant that he had had Mr. MARTIN—Yes. Balaklava, on which I remonstrated on the difficulty
no communication with that gentleman. Bache (Sir F. The SPEAKER then said the hole member's vote there would be of providing them with forage, but I was
Thesiger) begged to ask the right hon. gentleman whe- mast be recorded. . informed that I must proceed. If I had had the assist-
ther he had not been that very day in close conference . The numbers were then declared— ance of . a Commissary-General, whose business would
with a gentleman cf the Jewish persuasion, holding For the second reading or the bill
high power in the city of London. (Hear, hear.) Nuw, : - Against it - • 195 - valry, I should have been informed of what was going
he wished to know what could be the of ject of that in- Mejnrity in favour of the second reading 35 on, which I did not receive from the Commissary, who
derview, whether it related to the they
'of the The announcement was received with Loud cheer's. probably considered the brigadier was his commanding
Pretender, or to the "fag" end of the oath, "or the true . THE DISSENTERS' MARRIAGE BILL. officer, and not me. The noble lord then proceeded to
faith of Christian." (Leueliter, and, bear, hear.) This bill passed through committee pro forma, for the state the nature of the weather at this time, the difficul-
The bon; gentleman said he did not propose t(1 do purpose of making certain amendments and having them ties he had to contend with in supplying forage, the
anything in an indirect manner—(hear, hear)—the printed. • harassing nature of the work the horses bad to disc
object of the right hon. gentleman was perfectly pain MEDICAL PROFESSION' BILL, charge, and the unavailing representations he
and palpable. (Hear, hear ). He did not know whether A short discussion arose as to the desirability made_ of
_the state of the cavalry . to his eupe.
the noble lord the member for the City of London had of referring this bill to a 'select committee,' in which rior officer, and said that the effective strength
dropped his mantle on the shoulders of the right hon. Mr. T. Duncombe, Mr. - Napier, Mr. Henley, and Sir of the cavalry at Varna was 16 squadrons of 155
member for Manchester, or whether that right hon. G. Grey took part, but which was terminated by the horses each. The light brigade lost during Septembee,
gentleman had stolen it while the noble lord was asleep ; Speaker declaring, according to the standing orders, the from horses being thrown overboard and a considerable
but he thought the mantle better became the noble lord, hour had arrived (a quarter to 6) at which the debate number that were lost in landing, between 50 and
although he had worn it threadbare, than the right hon. must be adjourned. . 60, besides what were killed in action. The heavy bri-
member for Manchester. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) SUPPLY. - gale lost on the passage to the Crimea 226 troop horses,
The noble lord had acted in a more direct manner The committee of supply was postponed till Friday besides a considerable number of baggage horses, and
than the right honourable gentleman had done. next. many officers' chargers. In all the heavy brigade
He did not propose to break down the WAYS' AND MEANS. lost then about 300 horses. I have an account of the
constitutional barriers ' which had been erected daily loss of horses, and I find that in October not more
The house then went into committee of ways an d
to protect the Protestantism of the succession. Some means. than a dozen horses were -lost. In November 46 horses
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might be of opinion that there was no danger on that afr. WILSON moved that, towards making good the were killed. and 68t wounded in the Battle of Balaklava.
point, but he thought he should be able to show the supply granted to her Majesty, the sum of 21,182,7001. The light brigade lost 341 horses, which arose from the
house that any fears on that point were not altogether be raised by Exchequer-bills for the service. enemy crossing the lines and taking them away ; 120
so unlikely as some might think. A number of papal The vote was agreed to. horse., however, died in the month of November.
balls had lately been published, amongst which there was TRIAL OF OFFENDERS BILL. ' In reply to a question from the DeputysAdvocate- .
a letter from Pope Clement the 13:,h to the Pretender in ' This bill was read a third time and passed. General,
1759, which he addressed pet his , dearly beloved James, The other orders were then disposed of, and the house His Lordship said that his recommendations, in many
King of Great Britain, stating that he hal made au ap• adjourned. instances, were attended to, and his lordship read vari-
pointrnent to an Irish See. Since then, no less than 66 ous documents in confirmation of his statement.
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bulls had been published, in which all the rights of the General Peel asked the noble lord if he agreed with
house of Hanover to the Crown of England was THE MILITARY BOARD OF INQUIRY. Lord Cardigan that, notwithstanding, as he (Lord
denied. (Hear, hear) He would ask the house if it Lucent had said the horses had-d leriorated in condite a
was prepared to assert to the principles of a bill (This Day.) previous to their embarkation at Varna, that the Light
which was intended entirely to abolish the oath which a---- Division horses were in good condition ?
provided for the Prote-t int succesdon of this country, The Board of General Officers re-assembled this morn- Lord Lucan said he differed from that opinion, and
which he did not think so entirely chimerical. In the in; at the usual hour, at the Great Hall, Chelsea. As read an extract from an order he issued at the time,
reign of William aed Mary the Jews had been excluded the inquiry proceeds public interest appears to be. More pointing out the bad condition of the_ horses of the light
from Parliament by a direct act, because they were cavalry, and calling on the officers and men to use their
aliens, and no alien had a right to a seat in Parliament. excited in the inquiry, and the hall to-day was three best and strenuous exertions to' procure forage for
arts full before the commencement of the business.
It could not, therefore, be said that the Jews p
had been them, died-for-the men not to continue loner mounted
indirectly excluded, for he thought that the eel curustence Lord Lucan and hie friends arrived before 11 o'clock, that) necessary, and that the pace should be as slow as
he had mentioned proved entirely the contrary. He as did Col. Tullocb, Lieut.-Col. Gordon, Col. Doherty, pos-ibie. He had issued 72 orders for the care of the
thought that this house was the great guardian of Cal. Connelly, and Cul. Griffiths. horses. The condition of the horses .on landing at
re igion. In the prayer that was weekly the Crimea, from what they had suffered whilst at sea,
There was a much larger attendance of ladies, the he could scarcely recognise them.
offtred up by this a eintry, Gad was beseeched
tett "truth and justice, and religion a d piety, unfit friends of general officers end others connecte.l with the The Court adjourned at half-past 1 o'clock, and re-
be established through all generation," Now, it inquiry, in the reserved portion of the hall surrounding turned shortly after two o'clock, when the examinatlo
this house had nothing at all to de wi.h religion, that the president's table. of the noble lord was proceeded with.
prayer ought altogether to be withdrawn. (Hear, hear.) Lord Lucan said tbat his object was not so much to The Judge-Advocate-General then called upon Col.
He begged the house to consider for one moment whatTulloch, and asked him if he had any communication to
re iu eice to himself as to those officers who were
would be their position if they removed this oath. What 'eel' t ' ' e make to the Board.
a weapon it woule afford the Roman Catholics, who inculpated with himself by this report, and again called Col. Tulloch then addressed the court, in the course
would say, "We told you there was ne truth in the attention to the publication of another article in to-day' of which he said that anything he said was not to affect
doctrine of Protestaatisne • and here is a proof of it." Times, and to consider-how far that paper had attended his eolleaeue, who was unavoidably absent on that coca.
He maintained that che effect of the bill, if passed, to the suggestion of the board. sion. He proceeded to defend the conduct of the Crimean
_would be- to un Prot. st tetise the constituti•in and to Commissioners, who bad been actuated in the dis-
us ;13 rristianise the Legislature. He begged to move that The Deputy-Judge-Advocate (to Lord Lucan)—To
charge of their public duties with a desire to
what do you attribute the great mortality amongst the
the bill be read a ;acme! time that day ,ix months. do justice to all parties ; and however much many
The LORD ADVOCATE said the oath of abjuration horses I gallant officers might feel annoyed at the statements
was not framed for the purpose of excludin r a certain Lord Lucan -Does this refer to any particular period, contained in that report as savouring of hostility towards
clans of per-one from Parliament ; but it was framed for or 1.,e the whole of the time the cavalry division was them on the part of the Commissioners, hey egged to
a purely political purpose. Uritil to-day he had neverassure thee gallant officers that such was not the cise,
under command I
heard that the succession of the Crown was in danger. my but that their desire had been to present a temperate
The Deputy-Judge-Advocate—The question has been
Until to-day he had rested perfectly satisfied as to the and moderate report, and which he believed it
fate of the Pretender and his descendants ; but now altered to this form. To what do you attribute the bad been considered by her Majesty's Government
they bad been told that some of his descendants great mortality amongst the horses during the time the and the public at large. He was most desirous
might turn up some day, arid it was feared the t cavalry division was under your command I of giving any officer who might suppose him-
he would meet with a good deal of support. self aggrieved by any statement he might have made
(Laughter.) They had also been told that Protestant- Lord Lucan—The cavalry was not under my command
the fullest opportunity of clearing himself from such
until they landed in the East, and I need not refer to allegations. From the tone Lord Lucan had adopted in
ism was in danger ; now he thought that Protestantism
was never so secure or firm as it was at the present time, the horseslost on their passage. His lordship, who spoke addressing the Court it might be supposed that the.
because it was founded in the convictions ot the people. slowly and cautiously, said the question lam afraid will Commissioners were actuated by personal motives' in
With re-.pest to what tire hoe. and 'earned member require a very large answer. I may say independent of noticing his conduct; but for himself he might say that
had just said about the Roman Catholics bein famished he had no personal acquaintance with the noble lord,
g of the horses lost in action, and which I can explain, I
and had never seen him before the commencement of
with an argument as to the asserted negative character . . this inquiry. Whatever the noble lord might think of
of the Protestants, he centilersd it was one of those might attribute the loss of the horses in the army first, I
statements that was quite besiile the question. It was may say, that perhaps excepting a day or two--for a it, he (Colonel Tulloch) was confident that her Majesty's
not the intention of the oath of abjuration to exclude very few days at long intervals---I may say that the Goverainent and the public considered that report,
as he had already raid, a very temperate and mode-
a person of the Jewish persuasion front Parliaineut and horses of my cavalry were never properly fed any one
if it was intended to exclude men holding that faith fromrate one. The gallant officer then entered into
taking part in their proceeding', he contended it ought day
whilst under my command. From the inefficiency the 'remarks which Lord Lucan had male against
of the feed, and from the irregularity by which they oto the manner in which the Commissioners bad calculated
to be done by express act of Parliement, and not to be
effected by the fag end of an oath of abjuration. He twined it, the horses were never in condition at any one the mortality amongst the horses in the Crimea, aid in
should support the seeped reading of the hill on the time during •the. whole time they were under my com- reply to his lordship's statement that the cavalry was
grounds urged by the right bon. gentleman the member mend. Imay say thatthe horses deteriorated in condition not in the Crimea on the 6th of October, he produced
for Manchester. from the moment they landedat Scutari or Varna. Jean- documents from the War-office, showing that the head-
Mr. NA PIER objected to the second reading of the not say they continued to deteriorate, because they could quarters of the various cavalry regiments engaged in the
East were at Belidelava at that date. With reference
bill; because it made open questions of sacred and con- not be in a worse condition- but they deteriorated from to the mortality amongst the horses, he found that the
stitutile al matters. lie certainly would not go the
of the learned Lord Advocate in the that moment until they got into that desperate state of average strength of the Heavyßrigade during the months
length
extension of civil and religious liberty, but would emaciation from starvation that, as you observe, but a of Nov. and Dec., 1854, Jan., Feb., and March, 1855,
step short at the limit of Christianity. The noble lord very small proportion of them survived. It must be
5-voals
(7n207t horses, and that there died during that period
(J. Russell), when he brought forward tine per cent. e measure, did well known to all accustomed to horses, that when ex- inc
Inlud ing those that died in action), giving 77
the Light Brigade during the same period
RD in a far more straightforward manner than the right posed, it was the same with them as, I believe with all the average strength was 457 horses, and during that
hon. bat done. By the bill of the noble lord,
gentleman other animals, that they required more food than at any time their died, exclusive of those in action,394 horses,
admission to the Legislature was strictly confined to the I that the rations of food tented to the living 'a mortality of 92 per cent. Teat was a more
Jews ;but the bill of the right h m -u. ernbsr for ; other time. say
:Stanches-fearful mortality amongst horses than had ever occurred
ter would open the door for admission into the Legislature cavalry were insufficient ; and when the whole of the ra- before, or that might possibly ever occur again, and it
of all persons not Christians. He thought the person tuns were given it happened very rarely in Bulgaria. was not to be supposed but that every possible mode had
who denied the truths of the Christian doctrines oughtmy been had recourse to that could be adopted or ingenuity
confine my remarks to those regiments under
not to be admitted into Parliament any more than a ! will .
immediate command at Varna, rather than speak of what to devise to save the lives of the horses on which the lives
republican who denied the existence of an earthly sove- ef so many men depended. He next referred to his
reign. The latter would most centainly be decided to happened at Devna, and which came under my personai
sup. lordship's statement, that that portion of the Commis-
be not qualified, and he cartainly thought that the for- knowledge, because my brigadier did not keep me
sionere report with reference to the number of men n-
mer was not in a better position. The constitution plied with very perfect information of what occurred gaged in hutting the troops was incorrect,
and said that
of this country was allied to Christianity, and there- there, At Varna, till the time of the great fire in in December, 1854, the number of men in the Crimea
fore the entrance of any persons who wore no Cuilstiens
August, there was not much difficulty in procuring bar- tiifenetnthheseeHeLteigathveytsßeßreirgtiegar,adi,doeaa,teitanhcealtffiudtcliemnrgae,
ttehlieeervnsaiunctnkteb,aelrwiowashaasld,7on33ooo:.
into the house was a direct violation of the Caristia,eity
• ley and chopped straw. My first duty after arriving at
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of the country.
Lord J. RUSSELL said there were two points upon 3cutari was to become the president of a board to in
which the house seemed pretty well agreed, namely, quire into the supply of rations for troop, artillery, and
that it was no longer necessary to abjure allegiance to the baggage horses of the army. Hislordehip's statement was had been engaged in that work, and he found
successors of James 11., and that part of it with respect of a very rambling character. We gathered,hewever,froni that the largest number so engaged was 180 men of the
to the Protestant successors, they all seemed to agree
that both these parts might be got rid of. He did not together 240 men, falling short of one-fifth of the num-
it that the subject of foraging was considered, and it WS' Light Brigade, and 60 of the Heavy Brigade, making
her of men by 100, and that, again, he thought, showed
quarrel with the oath of allegiance, and doubted not arranged, with the consent of Lord Raglan, that the
the Commissioners had no desire to exaggerate the real
that every one admitted to that house would maintain the artillery and cavalry horses should have 121bs. of barley
Protestant succession to the throne. The point in dispute and 1018. of hay or 16ibs. of chopped straw, and the state of things in the Crimea at that time, or of bringing
was quite beside the question of Protestant alarm. Thereport
tocewebdeiedb toLervedad
Ltheeeawehole
considered
that
hon. and learned gentleman appeared to consider that, baggage horses were to have a quarter less of barley, charges against officers without foundation. The gal-
hereafter, if persons of the Jewish persuation were ad-t much difficulty intherenp
mitered to a seat in Parliament, the hon. and learned Varna, before the fire, there was ne
but the same quantity of hay or chopped straw. At
partlant oeffifcetrbe
animadverted on his conduct, remarking that it was
not an animadversion on his lordship's conduct. He
gentleman said he would stand on the grsund of Chris- getting the quantity of forage, always getting the barley
tianity ; but there were others who stood on narrower and in most instances the quantity of hay ; but some- had only, in that report, stated facts. There might
grounds to exclude from- office those who differed from times they got but 61bs. of hay, and in the Crimea the have been reasons why certain things which the report
them in religious opinioas. It was in former times, be-
greatest quantity of hay they had was Sibs. After the stated had not been done were not done, and all the
fore the repeal of the Test and Corporation Act, held thatreport stated was that they had not been done, leaving it
a man who did not profess the principles of the Este- the War Department to ask for an explanation. All
Mr. Murray,Murraho was
blished Church was not fit to hold any office, or to enter and I had only the services of a y,
fireat Varna there was a.want of both hay and barley,
the Commissioners had to do was not to inquire into the
the House of Commons as a member of Parliament. both new to the country and the service, to monist me
conduct of the officers in the Crimea,but into the state of
He maintained that there was more hostility on the in getting what I required ; and had it not been for my the stores. He contended at some length that there was
part of the Protestant dissenters towards the Establish- .
aide-de-camp, Capt. Walker, the cavalry would have no animadversion in the report on Lord Lucan, whose
ment than there was on the part of the Jews. The name was not mentioned, and said that there was but one
Jews did not seek to make proselytes, but were attached at that time was that of the Corn- instance where an officer's conduct had been animadverted
to their own faith. If they admitted Jews into Parlia- One of the great evils
been in a much worse. condition than they really were.
on. That officer was not in this country, and be be-
mend it was said the effect would be to un-Chris- missariat sending all over the country young men to lieved he had not yet discovered it • bat should he do
tianise the House of Commons. What would they say secure forage for the horses, the consequence of so, and ask for an explanation, he (dol. Tulloch) should
of the City of London which he had the honour to
which was that in many cases they were bidding be ready to defend his conduct. The gallant Colonel '
represent. They had at the present time a gentle next proceeded to show that the statements of the Com-
men of the Jewish persuasion as their Chief Magistrate,missioners relative to the- hutting of the cavalry were
generally sold for two or three
against each other, and raising the prices considerably ;
but by so having him in that office had the city of Lon- a sheaf of corn, that correct, and that during the bad weather shelter could
don parted with its Christianity, and were they only to piastres, fetched on this occasion four or five piastres. have been given to the horses by adopting a mode eieli-
resume that Christianity on the next 9th of November. At Devna the forage was so short (and it generally lar to that suggested by Col. Griffiths, and read a list of
(Laughter). If they thought to maintain the character
ha• • Dinned that if the soldier was deficient the General the number oto sf spare sails en boar
Had ingenuity
d the vessels ef
of that ho was so also
use by oaths, he would refer them to the time elter .
of the Commonwealth, when every ) been set to work to devise shelter for the
_man was called upon that I had to deprive my baggage horses of
ve them to do their best, to provide
to declare his form of '.relief in the Scriptures. If such their forage, and lea
horses, independent of these vessels, there were a num-
was the desire of the house now, why was not a hill in- my chargers with food. This deficiency continued
ber of sailing vessels and transports in the harbour of
troduced for that purpose. (Hear, hear.) Having during the time the cavalry was in Bulgaria, and I Balaklava in the month of November, whose sails might
gone over some of the objections to the bill, the called personally on • Mr. Commissary Filler often re- have been made use of for shelter, and many of these
vessels were in the harbour
noble lord said the oath of abjuration of
spect e , ine it • and, although lam always prepared to for as store depots, and would
the descendants of James 11, to the throne of this king-have no use their tails. The Heavy Brigade in
I must say, with equal fair- Novemberhe numbered 946 men, exclusive of officers, and
longer existed ; and concluded by urging the house to which he rationed the men,
tom was no ton
necessary, as those descendants no give him the greatest possible credit for the manner in
t Light Brigade 560, making about 1,500 men.
agree to the bill, and thus promote the onward progress ness, that I was always dissatisfied with the way in
i.These men, if they had been set to work (calm-
of civil and religious liberty. which he fed the horses. I never had an interview withhating nine cubic feet for every three horses),
Mr. WALPOLE objected to the bill. When the e a trench round the horses and erected
hon. member for Manchester said the City of London being
dissatisfied
him about the forage that I did not leave him without
mug t' duy
have afforded them much shelter. After seine further
had been for nine years deprived of one of its; represen-e inefficiency
tatives by the refusal of that house to admit Baron
and as they were almost my first evidence.' '
remerke the gallant officer asked to be allowed to call
Rothschild, he would only say that if the City of Len- were failing, .
from the of the forage that my horses
care I could not feel satisfied at .finding they were The President—Do you wish to put any questions to
don chore to elect a person who was coneititutiunally
disqualified, it was the City of London and
starving. When the light brigade came in from Devna Lord Lucan ?
not that house which was to blame. ByColonel Tullocla—Yes, a great number by and bye ;
I inspected them the morning after their arrival, and,
the exception of a few of them, I could not see much but I should wish first to examine a few officers. He
Constitution of the country there never was a time whene
in their condition between them and the heavy
a Jew was entitled to a seat in that house, and, there- with themnacjaelvled
Thompson,
fore, there was no argument in saying that the house difference
Lord Cardigan sth Dragoon Guards, who apse
defeating any constitutional principle.. The grin- brigade, although had stated they were gised for not being in regimentals, from not haviog bead
ciples of religious liberty entitled every one to the fullest in good condition, and that he was satisfied with their summoned before the Board to give evidence otlhnu!
liberty, but that dud not apply to this case, as it might
condition. I consider there was the greatest misman- occasion. His horses were in a very bad condition i
at
be the means of admitting persons to office which might
nt possible in embarking the cavalry deed in December, and required especially shelter
•n. agenae - that time from their being in that reduced condition.
be altogether incongruous with the admission of the Ito the
question of rime, consisting of 1,100 horses. After they had been The horses standing in the pickets were exposed
dividual. (Hear, hear.) It was not a dho and
and intolerance, but it was one calcu- at sea a few days, one of the aims on board of the severity of the freezing weatherat that perir 43112.
persecution 'agate the suffering
rated to alter the CM° 9.San character of thbat Simla came to me and complained that there was no his brother-officers endeavoured to irni
them and throw.-
house. It this bill was to get rid of obsolete forms,
have
forage on board for the horses, although Lord Raglan of the horses by digging a trench round
1 dwas of immense
should have given it his support, but believing it to had ordered, previous to their embarkation, that there ing a mud wall up to their knees- s had it
to a car-
e precisely oppesite tendency, he should give it his most should be six weeks' forage put on board each of the advantage to the horses. The
GraY
if it was enerall
tain degree, but he was unable to say . . . g y
dertrinured opposition, vessels. In consequence of that deficiency it became
Lord PALMERSTON said he should give his hearty necessary to shorten the' rations. His lorasldp then Joined in this work
adopted. All the men be bad to spare j .
shelter for their own and their com-
concurrence to the second reading of the bill, as the described the debarkation of the troops in the Crimea, and provided this .
tal) horses. It took the men
time had come when the taking of such an oath should whiclaoccupied three days, to show what a condition rad" who were in
hrtirt to do this for 150 horses,
be dispensed with, and that it ought to be removed from 1 tee horses must havel been in. After then rending, be could spare a fortn g
taken about two days if he
the statute-book. Lord Cardigan took 200 horses on patrol, and these and it would have
the whole of his
Mr. DISRAELI said he lamented very deeply the horses in addition to short forage, had to go 30 hours could have put fi .
question should be involved in the questiont of Prote - • '
s without water, from which they suffered much, being work. He had not a sufficient number of trench-
pickaxes were very bad, the points bent-
taut interests of the people of Englano. The oath of sucject to a harrassing patrol. As the cavalry proceeded ing tools. The p
handles broken.
abjuration, in its pre eat form. was one that every one they found no forage except a few stacks of what could The shovels „ere very bad and the
difficultyhe had to contend against in providing
must rrject for it was most anomalous. He should hardly be called straw—there was a total absence of
The
belt
er
for h "aa
Iris horses • from want of men
regret in voting for the motion of the right lion- corn. The horses for some -days after the commenced
this s
badness oftools. If he Lad
ourable member if it caull be considered that their march in the Crimea had but little corn and but and the the
trenching
had canvas and tarpauling be could have put them
his object was in any way directly or indirectly little water, which was also very scarce. On the morn-
nd it w'd have beneficial. If it had been
ou. been
to get rid of the obstacles in the way of the jug of the battle of the Alma I was promised some up a
down it could easily hairs been re erected. If be
Jew in the words 1" on the true faith of a Chris- et ra, and a little was given to some of the regiments, blowbnad 8
is i
liters to assist his
team" He had never advocated thee cause of the who shared it with the others. So alarming was
"ado that kind cent canvas and 20b
acvaerp
bees erected for leis
Jew in that house, on the principle- of civil and religi- the state of the cavalry at this time that on theof
d shelter could
men'sw homes in y It required no great ingenuity
ous liberty, that had so long and so consistently been morning of the battle I spoke to Lord Raglan
to revile the ah
la- * his horses
had at
.the time we-
advocated by the noble lord opposite, for if the claim of , about it, to which he replied, "I [ought to have ,
_p_ es eter
the Jew rested on that ground, it might be difficult to cone to him before, and not to annoy him then fared to.
l The Court then adjourned till Friday.
refute it; but his advocacy rested on the belief that full about it." I informed him I had not done so,