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the Commissioners had include's' in their returns of th 3
cavalry officers those of the baggage and ambu-
lance horses, and said be hoped _the Board
would ask for a return of all . the baggage and
ambulance horses in the Crimea on the first of every
month for the six months to which the Commission4rs
report referred. He trusted' that-then it would he found
that the-lots of herses was greater in the transport de-
pertrnent than in the cavalry. The whole .of the Com-
missioners' figures were wrong, and he thought he might
repeat with regard to these gentlemen what had been al-
ready wittly remarked, that nothing was so incorrect as
their figures except their facts, and to those facts he re-
ferred. He next alluded to the hutting of the horses
The Commissioners stated that the hutting for the
cavalrycommenced in necaseearlier than the end of Jan.
Now the weather at that time was exceedingly bad. The
light cavalry marched to the valley of the Kadikoi en
the 2d Dec., but the heavy divirsien,_ from the state of
the weather, could not march theititefore the sdi Dec.,
when some stir for sheltering the horses commenced.
• The army could not have taken an example then of butting
from our allies, because until up to the 13th Feb. they had
no horses hutted. He had two visits from an engineer
• officer to assist him, hut up to the time of his leaving
the Crimea he had no assistance from any engineer offi-
cer to assist him in providing shelter for the horses. -
When Lieut. Lennox, who was appropriated to him for
that purpose, . visited him. be thought he -should
have had the assistance of aL engineer offi-
cer. He visited him for half an. hour, promising
to return the following day, but bad never done so,
and he had not seen him since. Then he was to have
the assistance of Major Halt, but in that he was dis,
appointed. The cavalry men at the time were sickly,
and at one time there were scarcely, enough of
men to look after the torse4, and he applied
for some Turks to assist Ile applied-
for thorn, but he did not get trsteeste-On arriving at Ka-
dikoi he found that Osman Pasha, and not Sir Colin
Campbell, as he bad previously been informed, was the
person to apply to for the Turks. He read his informa-.
tion from 'Lord Bingham's journal, who was then his
aide-de-camp. Lord Bingham saw Osman Pasha on 3d
December ; but, being dissatisfied with his answer, he
(Lord Lucan) called on Osman Pasha on the 4th Decem•
ber, who promised him the required assistance from
Roostatn Pasha. =On the following day Lord Bingham
went to him, but the Turks could not be obtained ; and
the next day he (Lord Lucan) wrote to the Quartermas-
ter-General, but without success ; and on the 10th
December' he called the officers together,- when,
it was decided they should encamp on the
ground where they were, receiving the assistance of 150
Turks for one or two days only. On the 21st December
ho called the attention of the Qsartermaeter General to"
tyre fact, that he (Lord Lucan) was unable to proceed
with this work, giving as a reason the manner in which
the dragoons were occupied on duty and being deprived
of sufficient assistance from the Turks, and expressed
an opinion that with his then assistance he would not
be able to construct sufficient amount of shelter, nor in
time to be of service to the cavalry horses, with the
artifieers of the divisions and a small corps of sappers and
miners. He contended that the operations were com-
menced at a much earlier date than that stated by the
Commissioners, and that they were c trried out by himself
and his officers with the greatest energy and determination.
The regiments furthest from the encampment were not so
well provided with sheltering for the horses as those in
the immediate neighbourhood of the sheltering erected
to which he had referred, from the want of facilities to
do so. On the 12th Lord Raglan called upon him for
500 effective horses, which paralysed his (Lord Lucan's)
exertions. It was true, as he had said, he had the assis•
tance of 150 Turks for a short time, but they were in
such a weakly and emaciated condition that he was
obliged to return them, fearing he would have the re-
sponsibility of answering for their lives. Humanity
also dictated that they should be no further worked, and
he sent them back to Roostam Paella. The temporary
barracks were completed before the 17th January. and a.
the stables were roofed horses s ere sent in. His lord;
ship then detailed the measures he adopted to ascertain
the state and condition of his men and horses ; and one
was to have a daily nominal return of the effective men
and horses in each troop, and how employed, which was
rather an unusual thing. The return from the 4th
Dragoon Guards was addressed, by mistake,.to Lord
Raglan,' who, on reading it, 'maid he was glad to find the
men were so well employed. The whole of the stabling,
he believed, was completed by the 11th February, and
for which he received the congratulation of Colonel
Shute, his adjutant, on the 13th, previous to his (Lord
Lucan) leaving the Crimea. That officer said to him—
" I congratulate you, Lord Lucan, on having so suc-
cessfully accomplished what you always bad so much at
heart—that of sheltering every horse under your con-
trol." His lordship next referred to Maj a. Hall's
evidence relative to the quantity of timber avail-
able in the Crimea for hutting purposes,
which he (Lord Lucan) proceeded to show
yea: inadequate to the wants of the army. On one oc-
casion, when the baggage horses went for timber, it was
rafused because the. order was _nos sufficiently- and cor
rectly drawn. He then wrote for permission to have
what was required for uprights and rafters at any time,
hut he was told that c mid not be done, becausa it
would be out of order. Whilst, however, Major Hall
had limber under his control no difficulty arose in his
(Lord Lucan) having it. ' After that the butting was de-
layed until nails could be procured from Constantinople
to nail the roofs on to the stabling. If it had not b3en
for these delays the stabling would have been ready 10
days earlier than it was. On the 17th January, 1855,
he wrote a letter to :the Adjutant-General representing
the fearful condition of the cavalry at having to continue
in the discharge of transport duties, in which he made
another appeal on their behalf, for the horses were dying
fast ? On the 12th December, from the effects of the
Commissariat transport, 426 horses had died—many
sank under their loads, and had to be left to perish. His
lordship's letters entered into a detailed statement
of the position of the horses and men, showing
in a pecuniary point of view the great loss the country
was suffering from the death of so many horses, remina-
ing him that 800 horses cost the country about 60,0001
His lordship said he hoped he bad satisfied the Board
that the hutting commenced before'the end of January,
as stated by the Commissioners. He com-
plained of the impression this report had created
against him, and it was no answer for the committee
now to say that there was a nice point in the report, and
that it was the hutting of the men and not the horses
they referred to. The commissioners had also made a
mistake with reference to the distance of the cavalry
stores, which were never less than two miles from the
camp. The noble lord then read various letters which
he bad forwarded to the proper authoritie-,
complaining of the fatigue and overworking of the troop
horses after he had to provide 500 efficient homes at the
order of the Field-Marshal. In the heavy brigade, be-
tween the 12th and 27th Dec., 381 horses were used on
commissariat duties, 143 for regimental forage duties,
picquets 40, deficient for forage duties 8, so that
allowing each horse to carry 1 cwt., that brigade
lost the supply of 12 cwt. of toed daily. In the
Light Brigade there were but 201 horses ; 122 of
these were used for commissariat duties (making 503 on
transport duty), 72 on regimental forage, and seven for
orderlies. After they commenced the commissariat duties
the horses fell sick and died rapidly. In one day no less
than 29 horses died. He made several appeals against
this extra and destructive duty ; and finally, three
days after the 25th, he was relieved from them.
The noble lord then addressed himself to another
part of the report with reference to the shelter for horses,
in which the Commissioners say, "Considering, also,
the suffering and severe loss of horses from exposure to
the weather in the commencement of the winter, there
appears to be a want of promptitude or ingenuity in de-
vising for them some temporary shelter such as saved the
baggage-horses of the Sappers and Miners at Bslaklava."
In his repay to that statement, he had shown that it was
possible to compare the cavalry, who were exposed en a
bleak plateau, without tools, to the engineers, who were
down in a warm valley, and had plenty of tools. If he
wanted any more conclusive proof than another of the
animus of the commiesioners, and the malignity which
actuated them, he would rest upon that passage. They
went on to say that experience had shown that even a
very moderate degree of shelter would have kept them in
a certain condition of comfort and health. Well, he did
not know what greater experience Sir John M 'Neill or
Colonel Tultoch had greater than himself. He defied
either of them ie have provided better shelter on the
bleak plateau, with the means at his command, than he
did. They appeared to have made the charge solely
upon the evidence of Colonel Griffiths, the value of whose
evidence would be judged of when he was subjected to
a cross-examination. That officer was said to have
made an application for the means of sheltering the
horses of the Scots Greys, but to have been received by
him (Lord Lucan) in such a manner as to deter him, or
any other officer, from repeating the application. Now,
he objected to that statement, because it was not sup-
ported by evidence. There was no proof that any other
officer had been deterred from applying to him by what
had passed between him and Col. Griffiths ; on the con
trary, there was proof that it was not known to other
officers whom the commissioners had never examined.
It was, he had no hesitation in saying, most monstrous,
that a genetal officer should have been pointed out for
condemnation on the evidence of a subordinate officer,
whose evidenoe was taken in the absence of the officer
implicated by that evidence, and without his having an
opportunity of cross-examination. He proposed now to
call Col. Griffiths before the board.
Colonel Griffiths was called—He stated that he would
rather that his examination should be postponed for e
short time, until the arrival of some memoranda for
which he bad sent.
Lord Lucan said that these were not inemorand,
made at the time of the circumstances to which thee
related, but lately, for, the purpose of refreshing his me-
mory. He thought the inquiry had better be pro
ceeded with.
Col 'gel Griffiths thought that until the arrival of hi,
papers the board had no right to call upon him t'
answer any questions.
After the lapse of a quarter hour, .
Lord Lucan said that the non-production of the me-
moranda would make the examination a little mole dila
tory toan it would, etherwisa leave been, He. did nut
wise that the Court should break up in the middle, et
Colonel Griffith's examination, and he coultl,n4 hope t
conclude it by four o'clock tit being :then peat three),

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Colonel Griffiths then retired, and. , •
Colonel the lion. Alexander Gordon was called, and
cautioned m the usual manner by the Judge A'dvocate.
rte examination was coliducted by means of written
questions, to which Colonel Gordon replied viva voce.
Lord Lucan—The commissioners, in their letter to
Lord Panmurs, defended their report upon the evidence
of Sir Richard Airey and the Hon. Colonel Gordon. I
propose to examine Colonel Gordon upon that point.
Lord Lucan—ln your evidence before the commis-
sioners you stated that .on the same day (the 12th .of
November, I presume), Lord Luesn was directed, t.
make temporary stables as he best could until the tim-
ber arrived, and that on tlu) 12th of November
.an en.
&neer ,fficer was placed at his disposal to assist hits.
Be good enough to tell the Court who that officer was,
and what knowledge you have on the subject.
Col- nel Gordon—l think the name of the officer- was
Lieut. Stokes, who -was appointed by the officer_ com-
manding the Royal Engineers; and after that he was
-succeeded by an officer of the name of Lennox. He
thought those *ere the names of the officers, - tut he
could not say with perfect safety.
Lord Lucan —Can you say, of your own knowledge,
that Mr. Stokes was appointed to this duty on the 12th
November.

Colonel Gorden-1 think the officer commanding thet_
engineers stated that. Lieut.- Stokes had`been appoififetb
that duty on the 12th November, but without my papers
I could not speak with any degree of certainty on the
het whether it was that day or not. My impression is,
that Lieut. Stokes came to the camp, and that you wished
him to live with you. I think he declined, and went to
lire in his own camp. I recollect that, in 'some way or
another, his services were not available to you in the
way your lordship wished or expected.

Lo-rd Lucan—l do not know how far the commissioners
will allow me to avail myself of this journal which I hold
in 'my hand. It is a journal kept by my son, Lord Bing-
ham, who is now in the Crimea. There are plenty, of per-
sona who can speak in reference to the hand-writing. I
wish to show by means of it that Col; Gordon is in error,
and that at the time mentioned Lieut. Stokes did not
get any order.
Lord Lucan (to Col. Gordon)—Are you aware that
Capt. Chapman was the first officer appointed to this
duty, and be visited the camp for the first time on the
17th November ?

Colonel Gordon—l never heard of Capt. Chapman
having charge of that duty ; and, as I believe he never
left the camp, I am surprised to hear that he was engaged
to construct huts for the cavalry. I have never heard it
suggested, until this moment, that Capt. Chapman was
so, employed.

Lord Lucan—Can you tell on what days, or how often
Mr. Stokes attended at the cavalry camp ?
Colonel Gordon—No, I cannot.
Lord Lucan—Can you say that he attended on more
than one occasion ?

Colonel Gordon—l cannot say of my own knowledge.
Lord Lucan—Did you ever hear of a visit paid by me
to Capt. Gordon, the commanding engineer, on the 22d
November, to induce him to act in obedience to the
Quartermaster-General's order, and to give me an engi-
neer officer, if it was only for three days ?
'Colonel Gordon—Now that yoll mention the circum-
stance I recollect s ,mething about D. I knew that you
were very anxious on the matter, but I do not know
whether anything- was done. There is nu reason why I
should not know it, but I have a faint recollection that
you did somethin.c.; or other about it.

- Lord Lucan•—You mentioned that Lieut. Lennox was
appointed t )succeed Lieut. Stokes in this duty. Can you
say that Lieut. Lennox did more thaii present himself,
or that he ever did anything inore in the matter ?
Col. Gordon—Lieut. Stakes and Lieut. Lennox were,
I believe, the only two appointed ; but I do not know
what amount of duty they performed. I knew that they
Were relieved front all other duty in order that they
might attend to cavalry duty, but Ido not know how
many dais they attended to it. They were circumstances
that probably would not haie come within my : know-
ledge. at all.
L rd Lucan— Would you then be surprised to be told
that Lieut. Stokes attended only on the 22d of Nov ,
and then only upon that one occasion, and then to look
over the ground—and that Lieut. Lennox only the day
on which he came to present himself, and this because
Capt. Gordon refused to take him off his trench duties.
Would that surprise you ?
Colonel Gordon—Nothing would surprise me.
Lord Lucan—l ask you, does it surprise you ?
Colonel G,rdrin-
Lord Lucan—l wish to be informed hOw you know
that I was directed to make temporary stables ?
Col. Gordon—l stated it in evidence in the Crimea
from a knowledge of the records in the Quartermaster-
General's office. There is a letter in the Qmartermaster-
General's office to that effect.

Lord Lucan—l understood you to say yGli had no
personal knowledge en the matter ?
Col. Criirdon—l must correct that. Possibly that let-
ter, which is in the records of the office, was written by
tny&elf. At all events, there the letter is.
Lord Lucan—Can you tell the Court that there were
any written instructions atall?
Colonel Gordon--I cannot state whether there were
on that very day. I recollect now that the circumstance
is brought to my mind, that when the cavalry was on
the hills near the sea, that a letter was written to you
directing you to provide huts.
Lord Lucan—Did you ever hear of my having waited
on Lord Raglan of my own accord, and receiving from
him verbal instructions that very day ?
Colonel Gordon—lf I heard it, I have forgotten it.
But that is a circumstance that I probably should not
have been acquainted with the least in the world.
Llrd Lucan—l do not wish to press Colonel Gordon
further, as the Quartermaster-General, whom I shall call
, will know more about it.

Colonel Gordon—All I say is, that an engineer officer
was placed at your disposal, but I do not know anything
about the duties he performed.
The Court then adjourned, at 4 o'clock, to 11 o'clock
this day.

ENFIELD FACTORT.—A sum total of 108,528/. was
expended in 1854.5 and 1855.6 at the Royal Small Arms
Factory at Enfield viz., 51,1241. for buildings, 49,561/.
for machinery, 3,5901. for putting up machinery, and
2,2501 for altering machinery.
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