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in Ireland would be brought to a ecirplete deadlock.
After a few words from Mr. BENTILCIE,
Mr. DISRAELI said he thought the hon. and learned •
Solicitor-General was pursuing an ungracious and unne-
cessary course in refusing to allow the hills of the hon.
and learned member for Enniskillen to be referred to a
selectecornmittee. It was proposed that the hon. and
learned member for Enniskillen should be a member of ;
the select committee to which this bill was to be referred;
and, of course, if he so thought fit, the hon. and learned.
member could contest every clause of the bill in coin*
mittee. Now, would it not save time, and promote the
object in view, if all the bills were referred to the same
committee ? However, the question now was, should
they read the bill a second time, with view to referring
it to a select committee ? He saw no objection to that
course ; and he hoped, therefore, the house would not be
put to the trouble of a division.
Mr. S. FITZGERALD would not divide if he could
be convinced that the select committee, to whom the bill
was to lie referred, would have power to extend the
period for the existence of the It:cambered Estates Court.
The SPEAKER said the bill contained a clause con-
tinuing the Incumbered Estates Court for a limited time,
and it would of course be competent for the committee to
extend the date.
The amendment was then withdrawn, when the bill
was read a second time, and ordered to be referred to a
select committee.
JURIES (IRELAND) BILL.
On the ordsr for the second reading of this bill,
Mr. FITZGERALD (Solicitor-General for Ireland)
said if there was any objection to the second reading of
this bill, he should postpone it for a fortnight. Other-
wise he should propose to read it now a second time,
and then refer it to a select committee.
Mr. WHITESIDE- said the principle of the bill was
precisely the same as that of a bill which he introduced
last session, but which the Government opposed.
Mr. FITZGERALD denied the statement of the hon.
and learned member. This was simply a Consolidation
Bill of the Jury Laws of Ireland, and the idea of it bad
in no way been borrowed from the source suggested.
Mr. NAPIER said be should decidedly object to re-
fer the bill to a select committee.
The second reading was then put off for a fortnight.
DRAINAGE ADVANCE ACT AMENDMENT
BILL.
On the motion for the second reading of this bill,
Col. DUNNE asked what was the object of the bill!
Mr. WILSON said it was merely to simplify the
mode of transacting business between the Drainage Cones
missioners and the Treasury.
The bill was then read a second time.
TURNPIKE TRUSTS ARRANGEMENT BILL.
This bill was read a second time.
COMMONS INCLOSURE BILL.
This bill was read a second time.
SUPPLY.
The report of the committee of supply was brought up.
Upon the motion that it be agreed to, in reply to Mr.
Wieersees,
Mr. WILSON admitted that the customs and inland
revenue estimates did not include the whole of the sus
perannuation charges. He trusted that the Government
would, with the aid of the house, be enabled, in a short
time, to put the matter on a more satisfactory footing.
CHARITABLE USES BILL.
The house went into committee on this bill.
In reply to Mr. WALPOLE,
Mr. ATHERTON said the bill in no wise dispensed
with the existing guards against fraud, applicable under
Oh existing law, to grants which were not for full value*
The bill then passed through committee.
ECCLESIASTICAL COMMISSION (ENGLAND).
Sir G. GREY moved for a select committee to inquire
into the present constitution of the Ecclesiastical Cote'
mission for England; into the operation of the hot 13
and 14 Vic., c. 94, intituled, An Act to amend the Acts,
relating to that Cominission, and of the act 14 and 15
Vic., c. 104, intituled An Act to facilitate the Manage"
went and Improvement of Episcopal ' and Capitular
Estates in England ; and into the expediency of further
continuing the last act, and of consolidating the Church
Bumbling Commission with the Ecclesiastical Commission*
It was provided by the first of those acts that the Eccle-
siastical Commissioners should not act unless two ravers
tiers of t e Church Estates Commission were present.
The effect of this was to shift the power to the smaller
body, known as the Church Estates Commissioners,
having only a general supervision to the Ecclesiastical
Commissioners. The second act conferred larger power°
on the Church Estate Commissioners, but it would expire
this year ; and lie desired that a committee should re'
port to the house upon tire desirability of its contindance.
Its main object was to facilitate the enfranchisement of
copyhold and other property of a similar nature belting'
mg t r the church. He thought it would be desirable to
renew the act, but some alterations would in his opinion
be requisite. Anotbsr question for the committee is
consider would be whether the Church Building Com'
mission ought not to be incorporated with the Church
Estate Commission.
The Marquis of BLANDFORD said that these acts
deserved most serious attention, as they had introduced
an entirely new pi ieciple into our church polity, at least
so far as concerned the temporalities of the establish'
merit. He considered that it was the duty of Govern'
went to put so important a matter on a clear and deft'
rite footing.
Mr. WALPOLE gave his entire concurrence to the
proposal made by Sir G. Grey. It was most desirable
to consolidate and settle the law on this important,
matter.
Mr. HADFIELD thought that there were so man!
of these acts and commissions that they stood in eabh
other's why. It was time that the country should under-
stand what these acts were, and how the law really stood.
Mr. MOWBRAY expressed his satisfaction at the
course which the Government intended to pursue. ll°
Jthanked the right hon. gentleman (Sir G. Grey) for thus
. redeeming the promise which he made in the last sell'
sion of Parliament.
The resolution was then agreed to.
FORMATION OF PARISHES BILL.
The following members were nominated as the select
committee on this bill e-:-The Marquis of Blandford. "VIP
count Ebrington, Mr. Eyng, Mr. E. Egerton, Mr. G.
Butt, Mr. Gladstone, Mr. Massey, Mr. Mowbray,
Headlarn, Mr. S. Herbert, Sir S. Northcote, Mr. Dun'
lop, Lord J. Manners, and Mr. Pellatt. Five to be the
quorum ; power to send for persons, papers, and records!.
PUBLIC PROSECUTORS BILL.
The following members were nominated as the select
committee on this bill :—Mr. J. G. Phillimore gr.
Napier, the Lord Advocate, Mr. Miles, Mr. Phillips,
Mr. Attorney-General, Mr. Solicitor• General for Ire'
land, Mr. Walpole, Mr. W. Ewart, Lord Stanley, and
Mr. Watson.

RETURNS ORDERED.
SUPERNUMEEAVES (IRELAND). —On the motion of Mr.
GRoGAN—Return of the names and dates of appolOt.
ment of all persons temporarily engaged as superao•
meraries, draughtsinen, and clerks, in the varioue
Government offices in Ireland having permanent seta'
blishrnents, who have been in 'continuous employment
for five years and upwards ; the rate of pay granted
to such persona on appointment, and the number of
years of service of persons to the let day of Feb., 1856,
respectively ; the nature of employment (detailed)
since appointment ; and all' reports as to the general
conduct and efficiency of such persons; made by the
officer or officers under whom they were placed ; the
rate of pay on the Ist day of February, 1856 ; the scale
of salaries of permanent clerks employed in the same
offices to which such persons were temporarily attached.
The house adjourned at 25 minutes past 12.

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