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London, England, 1860-07-27 00:00:00

THE CASE OF DR. HINDS.

Viscount DUNGANNON gave notice that on Friday,
the 3d of August, he should call the attention of
their lordships to the case of Dr. Hinds, late Bishop
of Norwich, and he should ask whether it was
the intention of the Government, in the next session of Par-
liament, to bring in a bill to make provision for bishops
who, from age or ill health, should resign their sees.
CENSUS (SCOTLAND) BILL.

Lord BROUGHAM, in the absence of his noble aid
learned friend (Lord Lyndhurst); presented a petition
from the Glasgow Faculty of Medicine, complaining
that under the new Census Bill for Scotland they were
particulars of all patients under
called upon to state the
their care. The petitionerscomplained they were called upon
to fill up certain schedules of a very complicated nature
without remuneration. The petitioners prayed their
lordships not to pass the bill without striking out the clause
they objected to.

MINES REGULATION AND INSPECTION BILL,

Lord KINNAIRD asked the noble duke (Somerset) who
had charge of this bill to postpone proceeding farther with
it till Tuesday next.
The Duk9 of SOMERSET was very unwilling to atop
the progress of the bill at that late period of the session.
The report of the amendments could be received that even-
ing, and on the third reading the noble lord could state
whatever objection he had to the bill.
HIGHWAYS (SOUTH WALES) BILL.
This bill was read a second time.

PRISONS (SCOTLANDSILL.
This bill, on the motion of the Duke of ARGYLL, was
read a second time.

lIINES REGULATION AND INSPECTION BILL

The report of amendments on this bill was received,
and after a few observations from Lord Chelmsford, the
Duke of Buccleuch, and several other noble peers, the bill
was ordered to be L.Fr4nted.
REGISTRATION OF BIRTHS (SCOTLAND) BILL.
The report of amendments on this bill was also received.
TENURE AND IMPROVEMENTS OF LAND
(IRELAND) BILL. _ _

Earl GRANVILLE moved the second reading of this
bill, the object of which was to enable tenants to effect im-
provement's on their estates, such works to become a charge
on the estate, and to bo discharged by way of annuities for
a certain number of years.
Viscount DONOUGH MORE thought the bill would not
realise the anticipations of its promoters.

Viscount DUNGANNON said he must enter his
protest against the bill altogether. He thought it would
do harm rather than good, and although he entertained
such a strong opinion he should not, owing to the lateness
of the session, object to its going into committee. He
thought the right course to adopt was to refer the bill to a
select committee, as it was fraught with injustice to the
whole of the landlords of Ireland.
The bill was then read a second time.
TITLES TO LAND (SCOTLAND) ACT (1858)
AMENDMENT BILL.
This bill passed through committee, and was reported,
with amendments to the house.
CONJUGAL RIGHTS (SCOTLAND) BILL.
This bill was read a second time.
THE MANCHESTER CATHEDRAL CHURCH

BILL.
This bill was read a second time.
BLEACHING AND DYEING WORKS BILL.

The amendments to this bill were reported to the house.
The Lauds ,Clauses Consolidation Bill passed through
committee.
The Census (Ireland) Bill and the Census (England)
Bill were severally read a third time and. passed.

The Tithe Commutation Bill was read a third time and
passed.

OFFENCES WITHIN HER MAJESTY'S POSSES-

SIONS ABROAD BILL.
This bill passed throne] committee.
HERRING FISHERIES (SCOTLAND) BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
NUISANCES REMOVAL AND DISEASES
PREVENTION BILL.
This bill was reported with amendments.
OXFORD UNIVERSITY BILL.
This bill was read a third time and passed.
FELONY AND MISDEMEANOUR BILL.
This bill went through committee.
POSTAGE (ARMY AND NAVY) BILL.
This bill was read a second time.
PARTY EMBLEMS (IRELAND) DILL.

Earl GRANVILLE moved the second reading of this
bill, which was to prevent the exhibition of banners and
party emblems in Ireland, the doing of which might lead
to breaches of the peace.
Lord CHELMSFORD said he thought the bill was not
carefully drawn up. He did not, however, mean to pro-
pose any amendment, but he had drawn up a clause which
he would submit to the noble earl's consideration.
Earl GRANVILLE said he would consider the pro-
priety of introducing it in another stage.

The bill was then read a second time.
The following bills wero also read a second time :—Me-
dical Act (1858) Amendment Bill, and Highway Rates Act
Continuance Bill.
RIFLE VOLUNTEER ADJUTANTS' PAY AND
PERMANENT SERGEANTS.

Earl FORTESCUE begged to call the attention of the
Under Secretary for War to a question of which he had
given notice, relating to the pay and allowances to adju-
tants of administrative battalions of rifle volunteers in rural
districts ; but before doing so he would avail himself of that
opportunity of paying a well-merited tribute of acknow-
ledgment to the great value of the volunteers as a body,
and a well-deserved compliment to them upon their high
state of organisation. He also felt that it was due to the
right hon. gentleman the Secretary for War and to the
noble earl that to the manner and spirit in which they en-
couraged the movement, much of the degree of efficieney of
volunteers was due. Their lordships were aware that since
the formation of these corps they were organised into ad-
ministrative battalions, not for the purpose of destroying
their distinctiveness as separate car" but for that of accus-
toming them by drilling to act in combination. From that
arrangement he understood it had been determined to attach
an adjutant to each corps, with the pay and allowance of
10s. a clay. He thought a fair allowance for adjutants in
town, whose duties wereinot so extended as those adjutants in
the rural districts, where corps were scattered much apart,
and separated by tracts of country ; and in relation to adju-
tants of the latter class, he was of opinion that it was ne-
cessary that an extra allowance should be made to them
for the maintenance of a horse. (Hear, hear.) His
question then to the Under-Secretary for War, in refer-
ence to that class was, as to the " pay and allowances to
adjutants of administrative battalions in rural districts,"
and whether her Majesty's Government were prepared to
take any step for the purpose of giving further allowance
to them than they received at present. There was another
question of which he had also given notice, and that was
the desirableness, as it appeared to him, of appointing per-
manent sergeants to each company of volunteers. He
thought such an arrangement necessary to the greater effi-
ciency and drill of the corps, and it struck him that it
would be fair and right that they should have daily pay.
He also thought it desirable, nay necessary, that armourers
should be attached to each corps, for the purpose of keep-
ing the arms in a proper state of repair and efficiency, and
that for such service allowance ought also to be made. But
with regard to the appointment of a permanent sergeant to
each company, great efficiency must arise from such an ar-
rangement. He was aware that objection might be taken
to it upon the ground of expense; but he did not think
that the whole cost would amount to more than £130,000
a-year, or about a pound to each man, which, in relation to
the value of such an arrangement, would not, in his opi-
nion, be complained of as a high amount. The question
which he desired to put to the noble earl, therefore, was
whether there would be a grant cf a permanent sergeant, to
be paid by the Government, for each company of volunteers.
Earl DE GREY and RIPON felt very happy in hearing
the noble earl express his high consideration of the value
of the volunteers, and ho begged to assure the noble earl
that her Majesty's Government were also deeply sensible of
their great value and of the ready manner in which they
had stepped forward to serve their country. (Hear.) He
also felt sensible of the very handsome manner in which
the noble earl referred to himself in reference to the en-
couragement given in the department which he had the
honour to represent in their lordships' house to the rifle
volunteer movement. With respect to the first point to
which his noble friend called attention, namely, the present
position of the adjutants of. what was called "the adminis-
trative battalions in the rural districts," he admitted that
"'oaf, battalions were scattered far apart over those districts,
and the noble earl very properly pointed out that the adju-
tants those battalions were involved in much greater ex-
pans th D. the adjutants of corps in tbwns. Of the correct-
ness of that Statement there was no doubt ; and he begged
to inform the
noble earl that the question had been brought
under the consideration of the Secretary of War, whether it
would not be fairt
positions to make some additional allowance to ad-
jutants in those
) Their ease wtoa coverd their extra expenses.
(Hear, hear.
eserving of due considera-
tion, and he trusted, if the increased
granted, that there lordships wonldu allowance should be
oarvoevethof it. (Hear,
hear.) But ho was afraid he could e noble earl so
satisfactory an answer to the second questioneoni whicha he put,
000, which
because the sum of £l3O,
involve an addition to the estimates, and wouldi' bnc7° would
;:u
consi-
derable
crease on the cost to the country. Re fared
therefore, that he could not give the noble earl any hope on
that point. It would be borne in mind that adjutants had
been only very recently appointed to volunteer corps, and
until they saiw the working of that part of the system, he
did not think' it advisable to incur any additional expense
in connexion with the movement. The noble earl would
also bear in mind that the Government had already ap-
pointed sergea ats of the Guards and other corps to drill the
volunteers anLA if they were to employ sergeants who were

discharged soldiers, there was no longer power under mar-
tial law to detain them is the service of the volunteers if
they chose at any moment to leave it. There was, however,
one class of volunteers in whose favour an exception might
be fairly made, namely the artillery voluntefTs and a
small number of mounted volunteers, and he understood
that it was intended to allow those branches one sergeant
to each mounted company of volunteers. (Hear.) But it
would be remembered with regard to armourers and store-
houses, that it was one condition made with the volun-
teers by the Government, that the arms should be deposited
in storehouses, and under the care of arms' keepers, to be
paid for by the Government; and it should also be borne
in mind that the Government had appointed inspectors as
well as adjutants to volunteers. He felt that the volunteers
themselves would admit that they were now far better off
than they were when the Government accepted their ser-
vices, and it was essential, in order to make them a perma-
nent force, that they should not in the estimates become a
costly one.

Lord VIVIAN thought the time had come when the
volunteers, in reference to their organisation and amaz-
ingly increased efficiency, should meet with increased en-
couragement from her Majesty's Government and the
country. (Hear.) The question was one of great import-
ance, and, as he said before, unless greater encouragement
were given to them by the Gove nment, in a very short
time the country would lose more than one-half of them.
In his own county they were all willing to a man to serve ;
but he must say that some allowance ought to be made to
them, at least in the articles of ammunition and clothing,
and he deemed it right to add, that the time had now ar-
rived when the Government ought to do something more
for the volunteers than they had hitherto done. (Hear.)
He also thought it would be well to have two classes of
volunteers—namely, one who would undertake to serve one
or two years, and the other to be at liberty to serve just as
long as they liked, and to leave or serve at their own
option. He merely wished to throw out those suggestions
for the consideration of the Government, and he hoped that,
in some shape, they would receive practical attention.
The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH said he could not help
sharing the apprehensions of the noble baron who had just
spoken, that the means of supporting the companies of
volunteers, and of the further force for which occasion might
hereafter arise, would fail. That opinion was borne out by
the observations of_ the Commissioners of the Defences in

their report ; but he neves theless felt that there was a diffi-
culty in going to the Government directly on the subject.
What had occurred to him, however, was that power should
be given to the magistrates at quarter sessions to impose a
rate for meeting the expenses of the adjutants, and as that
would be a very small one, he could not anticipate that it
would meet with much opposition.
Lord HARDINGE said he could not help thinking also

that, should the present excitement subside, the means of
supporting the companies might fall off, and he therefore
hoped the subject would receive attention.
Lord MELVILLE said he hoped the suggestion would
not be adopted, as there were at present no more non-com-
missioned officers belonging to the several regiments of the
line than were necessary for drilling the men.
Earl GRANVILLE expressed his hope that the spirit
which had been manifested throughout the country in the
development of the volunteer movement would be main-
tained with unabated resolution, in which case there would
be no falling off in the subscriptions. In his opinion, how-
ever, nothing could more strongly tend to unpopularise the
movement than the imposition of rates. He therefore hoped
the house would see the propriety of adhering to the course
shadowed out by his right hon. friend the Secretary for
, War.

After a fewwords in reply from Earl FORTESCUE, the
subject dropped.
MILITARY STORES FOR INDIA.

The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH asked by whose direc-
tion, and under whose inspection certain articles of the
value of between £30,000 and £40,000 of a perishable nature
and inferior quality, equal to fifteen years' supply, were
sent out to India for the use of the Royal Artillery at Bom-
bay, as mentioned in a letter from the Governor of Bombay,
dated 12th March, 1860, and referred to in Mr. Wil-
loughby's letter.
Earl DE GREY and RIPON said the only answer he
could give to his assertion respecting the character and
quality of the stores, was the statement of the storekeeper
at Woolwich, that they were of the best description, and
the harness perfectly new. It would, however, be the duty
of the Government to obtain exact information on the

subject.
Their lordsbips then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(YEsTERDAY.).

The SPEAKER took the chair at a quarter past 12 o'clock

PRIVATE BUSINESS.

The Lords' amendments to the Bedford and Cambridge
Railway, Lincoln's Inn, and London and South Western
Railway (Kingston Railway Extension, &c.) Bills were
considered and agreed to.
The Forest of Dean Central Railway (No. 2) and Gal-
way Harbour (No. 2) Bills were amended and agreed to.