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and had him conveyed to his residence at the
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not dangerous, but it is apprehended that he may
be confined to his apartment for some days.
THE MURDER OF MR. LITTLE.

The dreadful and mysterious murderof Mr. Little,
, the cashier of the Midland Great Western Railway,
has caused an intense feeling of anxiety in this city.
The evidence of the medical men given at the in-
quest, on Saturday, will show that the deceased
must have received several heavy blows on the
head, which, in all probability, were inflicted be-
fore the assassin or assassins cut his throat. A
report of the inquest is annexed. No fact has yet
transpired to cast suspicion on any individual. The
relatives of the murdered gentleman have, however,
oflered a reward of 1501. for such information as
may lead to the conviction of the party concerned
in. th is awful murder. It is suggested that the main
object of the murderers was to seize upon the cash
in the office of Mr. Little—but there lay in the ,
desk a sum of about 1,5001., in notes, gold, and
silver, mine of which was touched. Probably,
after they had destroyed the unfortunate gentle-
man, they became alarmed for their safety and fled,
without taking any of this money; but it is reported
that 0. sum 'of between 5001. and 6001. is missing.
Whether this was taken in a parcel by the mur-
derers is a matter of suggestion. The evidence
adduced at the inquest is painfully interesting :
The inquest was held by Mr. Hyndman, city coroner, at
the Broadstone Terminus, on Saturday, at twelve o'clock.
It was attended by most of the directors of the company,
and by the friends and relations of the deceased. The
jury was composed of the following gentlemen :—Messrs.
Joseph Taylor. Robert Kirk, John Oldham, Bernard
Barry, James Hickey, John Pemberton, Andrew W. Fer-
guson, John J. Flanagan, James Mathews, Samuel Law,
John Mathews, and Adam Parkinson.
The first witness examined was Mr. Henry Beausire,
secretary to the company, who deposed as follows :—The
deceased, George Samuel Little, entered the office as my
clerk in April, 1853. Me acted as cashier since May last ;
his cash account was laid before the directors every Wed-
nesday, and was laid before them last Wednesday. His ac-
counts were not checked on that occasion, but a few weeks.
before the directors found them perfectly correct. I now
remember that his accounts were proved to be quite cor-
rect on Sunday last. The money received since Sunday
last has been examined and found to be substantially cor-
rect.

Dr. Jennings here entered the room, and said—Dr. Por-
ter and myself find, on examining the body, that there is
no doubt the man has been brutally murdered—his head
is a perfect mass of wounds. (Sensation.) Dr. Jennings
then requested that the members of the jury would once
more examine the body.
The jury accordingly left the roam for this purpose, and
on their return,
Mr. Beausire's examination was resumed. He stated—
Over 1,5001. was found in deceased's office yesterday. I
had not seen him for some eight or ten days. The reason
of the amount being so great is that the Mellinger fair
was held on Monday and Tuesday, when there was a much
larger receipt than usual. Deceased as cashier, made lodg-
ments in the bank three times a week. On yesterday ho
should have lodged the money for Wednesday, Thursday,
and part of Tuesdy. He had a safe in the office, in which
lie kept the company's money until lodged. It was gene-
rally known among the clerks in the office that there were
large sums of money in his office. Besides the clerks it
might be known to a certain extent among the porters,
because it was one of the porters, named William Macau-
ley, who was in the habit of carrying the cash bozos from
the different stations to the office of the deceased. Mr.
Little was, iu my opinion, a quiet, amiable, and unoffend-
ing gentleman. lam not aware of his having a dispute
witk any person in the company's service or out of it;
and I am not aware that any person whatever bore ill will
towards him. A lady called on me yesterday at half-past
twelve o'clock, and represented herself as the sister of the
deceased. She said he had not been at Lome all night,
and that she waasvery anxious about him, as she feared
he had been taken seriously ill, and was unable to let
her know. She said, further, that he lived in the same
house with her, and added that she did not wish me to take
any steps until she had seen her friend, Mr. Bond. She
then left me and did not again return. Every Friday I
have to sign certain cheques which are banded to mo by
Mr. Bennett, one of the clerks. These checks were brought
to me yesterday morning, about eleven o'clock, by Mr.
Bennett. I accordingly signed them. It was part of Mr.
Bennett's duty to hand those cheques to Mr. Little afte
they obtain my signature; and in about au hour after-
wards Mr. Bennett returned to tell me that Mr. Little had
not been to his office that morning, and asked me what I
was to do. He suggested that I should send some one to
Mr. Little's house, in Waterloo-road, to inquire about
him. T sent a clerk named Magee. It was shortly after
Magee left that deceased's sister called, as already stated ;
and accordingly, under the circumstances, I thought it my
duty to make further inquiry in the office. When I got
to the deceased's office I saw his assistant, Mr. Chamber.
lain, standing in the passage. I asked him why he was
not in the office at his business. He said that Mr. Little
had got the key. I immediately gave orders for a person
at the works to come down and open the door. Before I
did so I tried the dour and found it locked, and looked
through the key-hole, but the scntcheon was down, so that
I could not see into the room. Finding we could not get in
without breaking open the door, I gave orders to do so.
I changed my mind, however, and, as there is a window
in the passage, opposite the door of his office, by which
access may be gained to the roof of the station, from which
a person may be enabled to look through the window of
the cashier's office, I sent a boy named Hanlon out upon
the roof, who attempted to look in at the window, but the
blind was down, and he came back and said all was dark.
Brophy, the foreman carpenter, then got out on the roof,
and first statea.all was dark, btrt afterwards went back,
and looking carefully said he saw .the gas-light burn-
ing. I then told him to break the window, or undo the
fastening that he might get in, as I was sure that Mr.
Little was inside. Instead of breaking the window he
raised the nails which fastened it and got in, followed by the
boy Hanlon; the engineer, Mr. Cabrey, the traffic manager;
Mr. Forbes, myself, and several clerks were outside tl.:e
door of deceased's office in the passage. We heard Brophy
say from within, "Mr. Little is here lying dead, and there
is no key in the door." The door was then forced in by
Brophy and Hanlon working inside, and by we who were
outside pushing... I went inside and found Mr. Little lying
on his right cheek and stomach and chest, his head in a
pool of blood, his right hand under him, and his left lying
upon the floor, with the palm upon the ground. The blinds
upon the windows were down, and the gas lighted, but not
full. All his papers were in perfect order, and his mom y
lying on his desk as if he had just arranged it. On a table
to the right of the desk was a quantity of silver counted
in pounds. There was an empty basin on the desk, on the
floor a jug, and beyond the jug a towel saturated with
veryblo small
od.l`here was a knife lying upon the table—a small
office knife—without the slightest mark of blood, and a
mivaeasoninati
Juror—My
penknife in the drawer which was half open.
Above where the body lay there was a pair of scissors on •
the table. I searched for the key of the door in vain. I
then sent for a medical man, and Dr. Barker came. In the
:ueeroofirown;effyriends of deceased arrived. Dr. Barker
told me that the throat of deceased was cut, and that I
shouldT send word to the police and coroner.
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Dr. George Porter sworn—I have examined the body d
deceased carefully, assisted by Dr. Jennings. There is an
incised wound over each eyebrow. There aro five wounds
higher up upon the forehead, three others on the left cheek,
a deep wound above the left oar, another deep wound in
pupil of the right eye has been
rfreonndteroefdthsme alellfetrota. The
hran the left. There is also one wound
on the vertex, seven others on the back of the head, one
of these being crucial. The tip of the right ear was severed
and attached only by a piece of skin. A wound of about
five inches in length extends across tho throat, from the
level of the left ear to an inch and a half beyond the me-
sial line, removing the tip of the left ala of the thyriod
cartilage, The external and internal jugular veins on the
left side have been divided; the carotid artery of the
same side being partially severed, The oesophagus was cut

across, and the muscles is front of the vertebral column
were divided to the bone. Lividity was marked on the an-
terior surface of the body, the rigor mortis not being so
observable. On removing the scalp a large quantity of
blood was found effused under it over the left temporal
region, as also at the vertex. On the centre of the fore-
head there was an indentation of the bone, and also a de-
pressed fracture immediately over the right eyebrow. Ex-
tending from the indentation on the centre of the frontal
bone a fissure ran to the left tempbral bone, another simi-
lar one extending to the left frontal sinus from the same
indentation. The entire of the left temporal, the greater
part of the left parietal, and the contiguous portion of the
occipital bones were shattered into small fragments, the
membranes and substance of the brain being also lacerated,
the right arm
_was halt under the chest, and the hand
clenched, but not tightly. The left arm was extended and
the hand expanded, the palm resting on the ground. The
body lay on the chest, the right cheek resting on the floor.
I am of opinion that the fracture over the left ear was iu-
flicted with some heavy instrument, whilst the deceased
was 'stooping, by some one standing in front, the other
lacerated wounds of the head and the incised wounds on
the face and throat being probably inflicted while he was
lying insensible upon the ground ; and also that in addi-
tion to tha blunt weapon, sonic exceedingly sharp instru-
ment must have been employed to cut the throat and face.
Dr. W. B. Jennings, lb, Gardiner',-place, sworn and
examined—l am a licentiate of the College of Surgeons,
and am also a physician. I saw the body of deceased yes-
terday at two o'clock. I was called in by Mr. Henry Bond.
The body was in the office where it now lies when I saw it.
I made no examination at that tit e. fully concur iu the
evidence given by Surgeon Porter. The wounds in the
vicinity of the ear must' ave been inflicted by some heavy
instrument with angular edges. We examined the poker
and found no trace of blood.
Wm. John Chamberlain sworn—l was the assistant in
Mr. Little's office, and had been his assistant since last
July. My usual hour of departure was 5 o'clock, and I
always left deceased behind me in the office. He told me
he was usually late on Tuesday night, which was the night
he balanced his cash and books. I never heard of any per-
son having towards him ; but it was generally
known that there were large sums of money in his office.
About a fortnight or three weeks before I saw a man at
the lower staircase at ten minutes past five, when I had
just left the office. I asked him where ho was going? lle
did not answer, but showed me a crumpled paper. . At
that moment Mr. Taylor, the messenger, came up to go
out at the same door. I opened the paper and saw written
in it "Mr. Cabrey." I told him Mr. Cabrey was gone.
Mr. Taylor said "There is a young lad above; if you go
up he may give you seine information." I then went out
by the door, leaving the man and Mr. Taylor behind
me. I did not see Mr. Taylor after. Beside the bit of
paper the man had a worn rep about two yards long in
his baud. He appeared to be a labourer. I should know
him again from his appearance and voice. When I left
deceased on that night there were piles of notes and silver,
and gold on the desk and in the window. Ido not know
the exact amount. On the morning after I had met this
man, Mr. Little said when I came into the office, "William,
I got a great start last night." I asked him how so. Ile
said, "After you left, a labouring man came in inquiring
for Mr. Cabrey, whilst the money was all about the desk,
and gave me a great fright." I described to him the man
I had met as dressed is corduroy trousers and dirty fustian
jacket, buttoned across. Deceased said, " That was the
man," and added, "I must lock myself in for the future."
Mr. Little then weilt to the door and tried to lock it on the
inside, but could nct. He then said he would see Mr.
Brophy about it.

To a Juror—The key during tho daytime remained out-
eido.

To the Coroner—A pedlar called on Thursday in Mr.
Little's office, about three o'clock. Mr. Little stood up and
opened the wicket in the counter. The man showed two
pairs of spectacles, and asked would ne buy them.' Mr.
Little said he would not, as they wore not so good as his
own. 1 never SU fr the man before. When he came in there
was money lying on the desk. I thought he was a Jew and
a foreigner, and so did Mr. Little. lie staye.l about a
quarter of an kour, and when he went out I said he was
very troublesome. Deceased replied that Jews were very
persevering.

Edwin Taylor, messenger, sworn and examined—l recol•
lect the circumstance of a than cAlling a fortnight or three
weeks ago. I was in the act of going out at the time. lie
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asked for Mr. Cabrey, and I told him to go up stairs and
turn to the right. He did so, and while he was walking
up stairs I looked after him, and the man turned round
and looked at me. I then went out and saw no more of
him. I had no suspicion at the time. Ile was dressed in
a green fustian jacket. When I told the man to go up
stairs I was under the impression Mr. Cabrey had not gone•
A boy named Thomas Moore, messenger to Mr. Cabrey,
was sworn, and stated that he did not see any man that
night.

Anne Gunning, housekeepar, was next examined. She
said-1 reside on the premises with my husband. I know
Mr. Little. His hour for going was uncertain. He some-
times stayed until near 10 o'clock, but always left the key
of the office in the door. My servant used to go round to
rake down the fires and clean the office at night. The last
time 1 saw deceased was at 10 o'clock in the morning of
Thursday. I went to Mr. Little's office door at half-past
7 o'clock. The door was locked, but on th• opposite side
of the passage I saw the reflection of the light, which was
streaming through the keyhole. I turned the handle of
the door, but heard no voice.

Catherine Campbell exanined—l am the servant of Mrs.
Gunning. I usually go round the offices to rake down the
fires at a little past 5 o'clock, when all the clerks are gone.
I went round at half•past 5 o'clock on Thursday evening.
I shook Mr. Little's door, which I found locked, but got
no answer. I came down stairs and went through the
offices, but I met no strangers. I saw two of Mr. Kirwan's
clerks, who told me to keep their fire alight, as Mr. Thorn-
ton, one of the two, had to come back. When in Mr. Cal-
len's office, which is immediately underneath the office of
the deceased, at a quarter past 7 o'clock, just while the bell
for the mail train was ringing, I hoard a footstep overhead
as if he was walking. When shutting the doors on Thurs-
day night, at 11 o'clock, I went to the door of Mr. Little's
office and found it locked. I had a lamp in my hand, and
did not see any light or hear any voice, though I shook the
door. His general practice when I went to the door, to
see whether he was gone or not, if inside, was to say, "I
am not gone yet." I cannot tell when the clerks in Mr.
Kirwin's office went.: I never knew Mr. Little to be later
than 9 o'clock. On Monday and Tuesday night he wad in-
side at about 6 o'clock, and the door locked, when I passed,
but when I shook the door he answered me. Oa Thursday
night, when the key was not forthcoming, I thought either
that Mr. Little had taken the key with him, or that Mrs.
Ganninz had lacked the door. I was sure it was his footstep
I heard from the room underneath. I can swear that it was
his, which I knew very well. He had a peculiar step, and
his boots creaked very much. I am sure I locked the doors
of the house on that night about 11 o'clock.

MR. H. BERKELEY ON PUBLIC
AFFAIRS.

Patrick Hanbury, station master, deposed—On Friday
morning, when passing ou to the platform, at half-past six
o'clock, I found the door of communication open, and
thought Gunning had gone out bsfore me and had loft it
so. There is a policeman stationed on the platform every
night until about tea o'clock, when he is relieved by a
watchman, who remains until half-past six o'clock iu the
morning.

Bernard Gunning, clerk in the locomotive department,
and who also resides in the house, swore that the door
leading to the platform was open when he went out about
7 o'clock on Friday morning ; he thought it had been
opened by Ilanbury. At 1i o'clock on Thursday night,
when witness was upon the platform, everything seemed
quiet, and there was no appearance of any person about

the premises.
James Brophy, foreman carpenter at the carriage sheds,
next gave evidence respecting the manner which, by di-
rection of Mr. Beausire, the apartment had been entered.
He said—On getting in I found a great quantity of money
lying in perfect order upon the table, a bundle of bank
cheques was lying on the desk, and the wicket in the
as has been do-
counter was open. The body was lying

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Constable William Hughes, 80 D, produced a pair of
spectacles, gpleanssneys:
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had been found in the room, and upon the
body of the deceased. The watch was stopped at 20 mi-
nutes past 7.
The evidencediaving been concluded,
The Coroner, addressing the jury, said—lt is not neces-
sary for me to say much to you about the case, nor I think
to read over the testimony. Mr. Porter and Dr. Jennings
have told you that the skull was fractured, and that iu
their opinion the deceased was struck first upon the head
whilst stooping by some blunt instrument, and that the
other injuries must have been afterwards inflicted: The
office key and the instruments used have not been found ;
but, as far as we can judge, the murder was perpetrated
between 7 and half-past 11 o'clock.
The jury, without any hesitation, returned a verdict of
wilful murder against some person or persons unknown.

FURTHER PARTICULARS.
DUBLIN, MONDAY EVENING.
Some new circumstances have come to light, tending to
give an idea of how the crime was committed, and of the
escapa of the murderer. It would appear from a careful
examination of the cashier's room that the concealment of
a person from the occupant of the room was totally im-
possible, and that further deceased was at his table, or in
the neighbourhood of it, when the assassination took place,
for the marks remaining go to show that every act, so far
AN Cu be conjectured, was CO namittea within a circle of

from four to five feet in diameter. If this be so the only
Way of accounting for the lappearanco of the murderer in
the room is by supposing that, having entered the terminus
by a passage leading from the platform at its west side,
he ascended the stairs, and lurking by, either in one of the
rooms on the corridor or on a sort of cask staircase imme-
diately adjoining the cashier's room, awaited an opportu-
nity of finding the coast clear, and then, seeing that the
door was not locked—which is now generally suspected,
notwithstanding the evidence at the in4uest—opened it
quietly, and so as not to attract attention.• The hair'pf
the deceased seems to have been torn by handfuls from the
head and strewed about the floor. The position of the
body when found would almost indicate that the unfortu-
nate gentleman was first attacked. *hen seated in his chair
at the table, and this fact would either go to presume the
prior concealment of the assassin or the door being ,
un-
locked at the time of his entrance. Then as to the pro-
ceeding of the murderer after he had succeeded in effecting
his brutal purpose, the supposition is that an attempt was
made to wash the blood from the hands, for a basin was
removed from the washhand-stand and placed on the
corner of the table ; but no water being ' convenient
this intent was -frustrated. Having removed the hlood
from the razor or other instrument with which
the murder was committed the murderer left the
room, locking the door behind him, and descended
by the principal staircase to the basement storey,.where he
would appear to have made an endeavour to retreat by the
same door, opening on the passage to the platform, by
which ho had entered, for on the doorpost a fresh deposit
of blood has been discovered, as if a person, pushing
against the door with the sleeve of his coat or his hand,
either having blood upon them, had pressed against it.
The piece of the post on which" this is obserVable has been-
cut off and removed by police o%cers. Foiled in his at-
tempt to obtain egress in this way ho seems to have pro-
ceeded to a window opening from the entrance half upon
the platform, and, having raised this, to have descended
the live or six feet which intervened between. the sill and
ground, for ou the lower stonework of the window there
are to be seen marked in the,dusty deposits, a hand, the
scrapings of a shoo, and the evident appearance of a coat
tail having brushed across it. As to any further acts of
the murderer nothing is known.

The supposition that he walked along the line towards
the canal, there disposed of the implements with which he
had perpetrated the crime, and the key of the room, is
looked on as well grounded ; and tomorrow, we beliave,
the flat eanal lying between the aqueduct at Constitution-
hill and the first lock will be drained for the purpose of
making a search. Rewards have been offered for infor-
mation by Mr. Simon Little, of Cullentra, county of Wex-
ford, to the amount of 1001., and by Mr. Thomas W. Bond,
of Stephen's-green, to the amount of 50g. The railway
company have not as yet offered any reward, but it is said
that the Government contemplate offering no less a sum
than 5001., under the usual restriction.

On the 13th of November Use citizens of Bristol cele
brated the anniversary of the birth and death of their
great philanthropist, Edward Colston. Three societies
have been established for perpetuating his memory. The
Anchor (Liberal), the Dolphin (Conservative)„ and the
Grateful (neutral). The amount collected this year fur
the purposes of these several societies, the funds of which
are appropriated to the apprenticing of boys, the relief
of poor lying-in women, and the assistance of cases of
distress, was as follows :—Grateful Society, 6031. 10s. ;
Anchor, 4901. ; and Dolphin, 3361. is. 2d.
Mr. H. BERKELEY, at the Anchor dinner, after some
remarks on local politics, spoke as follows :—What aro
Conservative principles now ? It would puzzle any man
to tell. It is not for me to stand here and find principles
for Conservatives ; I can only rejoice that I can find
none to talk about. I find nothing to attack—nobody
t) put down. (Laughter.) There is a rumour of a party
which is to exist in the House of Commons ; there is a
rumour of getting up a war-cry. What is that war-cry ?
Why, gentlemen, they are driven to enlist aseproeelytes
of the late Lord George Gordon—(laughter)—and have
got up a war-cry of "No popery'." Well, I wish the
Tories joy of that cry. But my own opinions are these,
--that when we see Roman Catholics bleeding side by
side at Inkerman and Balaklava ; when we see
the glorious deeds of our Florence Nightingale
rivalled by those of the Sisters of Mercy—(hear, hear)—
then I say that if there be an excuse to be made
for the Roman Catholic I will make that excuse for the
man who died in the same field with the Protestant, and
yields his soul to God for the honour of his Queen.
(Cheers.) , Now,, gentlemen, there is one great liberty
which we take as Liberals. We have various opinions ;
they don't amount to schisms, although our enemies
wish that they should. They simply amount to differ-
ences of opinion. Ono says you are wrong in your opi-
nion, while the other says no, it is you are wrong; we
are right. But we never lose sight of the great principles
of the Liberal party. Now, I have touched upon this
question because it involves a difference between my
hoe, friend and myself. We do not view the "No Po-
pery" cry in the same light. He is conscientious. I
hope I am. He is a good Protestant—his father was
before him, that I know, and I hope I am a good Pro-
testant also. But it has been said in this city that I am
not. Now, then, I will give you my idea of a Protestant.
A liberal Protestant is one'who worships God according
to his conscience—who abides by his principles and ideas
on the subject, and who accords the same liberty to every
body else. Now I am addressing myself to gentlemen of
vauious religious opinions, buti know they will bear
with me if they do not agree with me. lam a Church of
England man; I know my intimate, Mr. Coates, is a
Dissenter, and around me I see gentlemen who don't
agree with me, but still they will tolerate me as a Pro-
testant of the Church of England. (Cheers.) The Church
of England is now divided in such a way that its best
friends only pray that it may not fall. What do I
know about High Church or Low Church ? Fighting
for High Church or Low Church? Oh, how every Dis•
senter must laugh to see such division and such dissen-
sion about matters which are in themselves so very un-
important. How they must see that the weakness of
the Church of England lies in these dissensions. Permit
me to say that I speak only my own opinions. I do
not trench upon those of any man and, most particularly,
I do not trench upon those of my friend Mr. Langton,
whose opinions I know are most conscientious, and
whose opinions in the House of Commons are, for the
most part, my opinions ; and who goes with me, shoulder
to shoulder, into the lobby. We simply differ upon
points of conscience—points of conscience on his part,
but not on mine. I am not a Protestant, so lam told
at a meeting in this city—a meeting at which I can prove
a canvass was attempted to be instituted for the only
Protestant member for Bristol, Mr. Langton—as if they
could separate me from Langtori—(laughter and cries of
"No, no")—as if Mr. Langton could for one moment
doubt my being an equally good Protestant with himself.
Now, these gentlemen who band themselves together to
pursue this course, and who have established a sort of
clerical and lay pack of hounds to hunt Roman Catholics,
have, in my opinion, taken a false view. Does this pack
expect to find a cardinal sitting?—(laughter)—to attempt
to get upon the track of a Jesuit ? (Laughter.) Why,
if I were to go out hunting in that way I should expect,
instead of finding a sitting cardinal or Jesuit to start a
Puseyite parson—(laughter)—for really, gentlemen, _be-
tween a Roman Catholic priest and a Puseyite parson I see
very little difference. (" There is not.") Well, then, I
say, however bad the religion of the Roman Catholic
may be, however much we may dislike the Roman Ca-
tholic religion, let us leave the Catholics in the consci-
entious enjoyment of it. Let them do their worst. If
the Church of England cannot oppose a bulwark against
Popery, depend upon it the Dissenting body of Protes-
tants in this country would never see a State church
formed of Roman Catholics. This country would run
from one end to the other with blood before that could
be done,-and becomeagain the scene of revolution in its
worst shape, and I confess that, with all tolerance for
Roman Catholics, I would rather draw the sword than
see such a thing happen. Well, gentlemen, these re-
masks have been forced upon me because at a certain
meeting at which toy friend, Mr. Langton, took the
chair, very naturally and properly with his feelings, but
in which a party of excited gentlemen, who were not at
either Alma or Inkerman, but who reside at Clifton—
one Colonel Crauford—l do not know whether Bishop
Davis was there or not—asserted, not that I was a Re- '
man Catholic, but that I was not the Protestant member
for Bristol. I know a clergyman in that meeting who
was canvassed for his vote against me, and for my friend
Mr. Langton, yet so well do I know my friend Mr.
Langton, that I ani sure he would be no friend of his
who gave such a vote. (Hear, hear.) What was that
clergyman's reply ? " I came here to hear something
about Popery, and not to condemn Mr. Berkeley, after
so many years' service, as not being the Protestant mem-
ber for Bristol." That was the reply, and I think it a very
fair one. Now, gentlemen, if there is anything I revere
it is the Protestant service of the Church of England
rendered according to the appropriate form. I like every
gentleman to hold such religion as he may believe to be
best, but there is to me something so beautiful and so
sacred in our cathedral service, well rendered, the beau-
tiful music echoing through the old arches, that I con-
fess it affects me with devotional feelings such as I
feel in no other place. Now, I see, a gentleman named
Joshe or Jose—(a laugh)—at a late examination of the
Colston boys, lamented that the lads were not allowed
to join in the chanting, and that the Rev. Canon Girdle-
stone, also, was in favour of the boys raising their
voices, as he called it. If they do, then there is an end
of our cathedral service and of that beautiful, solemn,
and sublime, and ancient music which has come down
to us from the days of Henry VIII. If this is to be
) broken in upon by the howling of schoolboys, away goes