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THE SUN, LONDON; TUESDAY EVENING, MAY 15,1_1860,

ciently the traffic that had to pass through them, and seri-
ous inconvenience was felt from this cause. But there were
great difficulties in the way of extensive metropolitan im-
provements. On the one hand, it was often urged that
Parliament ought not to grant money for such objects, but
that they should be wholly provided for out of the local
taxation. That might be fair if the metropolis were on the
same footing as the ether great towns of the empire. But
this was not the case ; for wbilst in other cities and bo-
roughs the municipalities had large funds, derived from
various tolls and dues, applicable to the improvements of
the town, here the whole of these coal dues and revenues
from other articles was levied by the Corporation of the
City of London, who expended that vast sum of money
within the City, leaving to the rest of the metropolis no
other resource than to impose a local rate. He did not
know how this matter was dealt with in the bill now be-
fore the House of Commons for the reform of the London
corporation, but it was a point to which the attention of
their lordships ought to be directed with a view to
enabling metropolitan improvements to be carried out. The
widening of the south end of Park-lane, only as far as from
Piccadilly up to Holdemess-house, would cost no less than
£lOO,OOO, and it was impossible that such improvements
could be effected out of a local rate.

Newspapers Conveyance, &c. Bill be read for the purpose
of being cancelled.
The order for the second reading of the bill was then dis-
charged.
THE COLLECTION, &c., IN IRELAND FOR THE
• POPE.

Mr. A. STEUART asked the Chief Secretary for Ire-
land whether Government had turned their attention to col-
lections of money being made, there chiefly, as well as in
other parts of the empire, for the use of the sovereign of the
Papal States ; whether they believed such might be used, or
means adopted otherwise, for enlisting subjects of her Ma-
jesty for the army of that foreign Power ; and whether, if
such be illegal or irregular, Government would take mea-
sures to check any agents in the matter, or to warn those
who may enter into such engagements.
Mr. CARDWELL said that according to the Foreign
Enlistment Act such enlistment was illegal. Tho atten-
tion of the Irish Government had been directed to the sub-
ject, and they were determined to enforce the law in regard
to persons engaged on enlisting for the Papal service.
CUSTOMS' ACT.
In reply to Mr. DISRAELI,
Lord PALMERSTON said that it was not proposed to
go into committee on the Customs' Act this night. , .
THE NEW BRONZE PENNY.

SELLING AND HAWKING OF GOODS ON SUN

DAY BILL.

Upon the motion for the re-committal of this bill,
Lord TEYNHAM implored their lordships not to pro-
ceed with the bill, on the ground that they ought to see how
far public and private efforts could succeed in putting down
needless Sunday trading before they attempted to legislate
upon the subject.

Mr. BLACK asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer
when the new bronze penny would be ready for issue ; and,
if the distribution was to be made in England and Ireland
by the national banks of these kingdoms, by what machi-
nery the distribution would be made in Scotland.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
all the arrangementswere made for striking the penny coin,
which would shortly be issued. The delay that had taken
place arose from what might be called the fine arts depart-
ment, but this difficulty was now being surmounted, At
first copper coin would be issued only from the
Mint, but when the demand occurred for a more
extensive issue the Government' would then have
recourse to the services of contractors. Arrangements
would also be made with the Bank of England, and the
Banks of Ireland and Scotland, by which they would be
rendered centres of distribution for the new coin. With
reference to the collection of the old coin, it would not be
deemed advisable to have any special machinery, because
it was considered there was sufficient inducement held forth
to persons to bring in the old coin to the Mint.
THE REFRESHMENT HOUSES AND WINE
LICENCES BILL—IRREGULARITY OF PRO-
CEEDING.
Lord PAL'MERSTON said that in redemption of a
pledge ho had given on Friday night, he wished to call
attention to an irregularity on Thursday, when the house
went into committee of ways and means, and agreed to
resolutions on which to found the bill. These resolutions
were reported the same evening contrary to the usage of
the house. On that occasion, as his right honourable
friend (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) thought there
was no difference of opinion, he appealed to the house to
allow the resolutions to be reported at once, and it was
done, but upon consideration it struck every one that that
proceeding was a departure from the usage of ate house.
It was the practice that resolutions for grants of
money in supply should not be reported the same day
they were agreed to, but on some subsequent day.
There was only one instance, namely, in 1797, during the
mutiny at the Nore, that the usage was departed from. The
forms of the house wore sometimes accompanied by delay,
but they were all founded on reason and good sense, and
their tendency was to guard against accidental decisions,
arrived at under the influence of feeling or by accident.
In other countries, where these forms did not prevail,
great interests were often affected by sudden resolutions.
The object of all their forms was to guard the house
against precipitancy of decision. It was important, there-
fore, to preserve the character of the house, and there were
two ways in which this irregularity could be corrected—
the one was, that what was done should not stand as a pre-
cedent, arid the other was that the practice should not be
departed from in future ; but the latter course might be at-
tended with some inconvenience, as circumstances might
arise which would render such an act indispensable. There
was no doubt but that what had been done was a valid act,
but for the reasons be had mentioned he thought the best
course was to move that what had been done should be
deemed null and void, and that the resolutions agreed to in
committee of ways and means should be reported to-mor-
row. The noble viscount then moved a resolution to the
effect, "That notice be taken that the resolutions had been
reported the same evening they wore agreed to without
urgent necessity, and that as such report was contrary to
usage it be deemed null and void, and that the resolutions
be reported to-morrow."
Sir H. WILLOUG EIBY said it appeared to him there
was a double irregularity in going into committee, for
clauses 1 and 2 of the bill were agreed to, and which being
founded on an invalid resolution the clauses also were in-
valid. How would they retrace their second false step
Me considered this a most important question in a consti-
tutional point of view, as it was intended to give time to
reflect before imposing a public tax.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said there
could be no doubt but that there had been a double irregu-
larity. The resolutions would be as if not reported, and
therefore these clauses must be brought up again. He
moved the committee of ways and means without the
slightest idea that the resolutions would be reported, but
coming out of committee the chairman asked whether he
would have the committee forthwith. He inquired whe-
ther that could be so, and was answered in the affirmative.
Believing that some alteration had been made in the forme
of the house he assented to that assurance, and acted ac-
cordingly.
After a few observations from Mr. WALPOLE the mo-
tion was agreed to.
BANKRUPTCY AN.D INSOLVENCY BILL.
Mr. BOUVERIE inquired when this important mea-
sure was to be proceeded with.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL-said that was a very
cruel questien—(a laugh)—as he saw no probability of
being able to fix any day. He had appealed to the head of
the Government for that day week to go into eommittee
and make some progress, but at present there appeared no
hos e of furthering the bill on that day.
REFRESHMENT HOUSES AND WINE
LICENSES BILL.
The house went into committee on this bill.
datums 12, 13, 14, and 15 were agreed to.
On clause 16,
Mr. Alderman SALOMONS moved, page 8, line
•1, after
" Act," insert "and that shall be kept open after nine of
the clock in the evening." He explained that the object of
life amendment would be to exempt refreshment houses
from the visitation of the police unless in cases where they
were kept open after nine o'clock. He contended that
houses which closed before the latter hour should not be
treated in the same way as night houses, from which they
were totally different.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
saw no reason why the class of houses in question should be
exempted from the same visitation to which public houses
were exposed under the existing law.
Mr. E. JAMES said that the practical effect of the
clause would be to invest the police with a very arbitrary
power in respect to those refreshment houses. It was a
fact that the pollee levied black mail at the west end,
and on the unfortunate females who frequented them.
Mr. HARDY considered that this bill would ultimately
have to be revised.
SHOT-BOATS, &c,
conversation the amendment was withdrawn,
Sir C. NAPIER gave notice that he would ask to lo After some
and the clause was areed to.
row a question relative to the building of the shot-boats as
On clause 17,
well as the reserve vessels.
Mr. AYRTON suggested that, according to the bill,
THE INSURRECTION IN SICILY.
foreign wine,
Mr. HENNESSY gave notice that he would draw the thininogrdetro
to
oefinenae
bwlehtahtowdaos:lethr
discriminate
taotof
attention of the house to the money raised for the purpose between it and any home compound.
of carrying out the insurrection in Sicily. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
NEWSPAPERS CONVEYANCE BILL. etoeedniss
it was impossible to give any such definition as the hon.
Mr. BAINES asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer member (Mr. Ayrton) seemed to desire. With re-
whether he intended to proceed that evening with the order gard to discriminating between what was foreign
of the day which stood on the paper for the second reading wine and what was not, it was a mere matter
to be determined by taste or chemical skill. What was pro-
of the Newspaper Conveyance Bill ?
posed by this particular clause was to prOlibit persons sell-
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—The ing wine without a license.
Newspaper Conveyance Bill has not yet been printed, and
_Thhee
remainingclause sas agreed
tot 20 were agreed to.o.
has been reserved for the purpose of submitting to the house 1
at the same time the regulations to be made by authority of After some discussion, clauses 21, 22, and 23 were also
te.
the Treasury, which the adoption of such a bill would re- agreed
On clause 24,
quire. But tam obliged to my hon. friend for putting this The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER proposed
question, because it will enable me to state what appears to an amendment, the object of which was to assimilate the
be the convenient course to take with respect to the meanhours of opening and closing wines houses to those which
sure. The reasons on which the bill is founded are chiefly
now rega:late the opening and closing
right oin
g of beer houses.
or entirely departmental and adroinistrative reasons; but a Mr. SPOON ll, asked if the
in-
portion of the parties afected by it are disposed to contest tended by this eiail.°e t„9 authorise
hon. gentleman
the opening of refresh-
thosel dremain
to
reasons, and to urge that the present system 9f a stamp ment houses on Sundays, ,
hich were not allowed
on superficies, instead of a simple stamp on weight, with Opel at present. Ile thought l—
clause a most objection-
the privilege of retransmission is accompanied by certain able one, and trusted that the right
t,,,_on. gentleman would
incidents which make it a beneficial and an economical ar- seriously consider the effect it was likely
rangement for the public. That is an allegation which, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQ •rt . said there
however it may be opposed to the view of the
authorities in was no intention to alter the present law, or to au,horise .
the Post-office department, is yet a fair subject for inquiry, any house to open on Sunday which was not authorised 0
and I should not like to urge the disposal of a subject of be opened at present. The clause as it now stood would
this kind, without attending
to such a fair allegation,svhich impose all the restraints upon wine houses which were now it is competent for these parties to make,
and fairly within applicable to licensed victuallers.
the province of the House of Ceuamons to consider. We Mr. SP 0 ONER wished toknow whether these partiesdwere
are, however, met by this difficulty. Sir Rowland Hill liable to penalties for following their calling on Sundays.
the the Secretary to the Post-office, I regret to say, has (Hear.) What exempted these pastry-cooks
been labouring under a severe illness, and an intima- from prosecutions ? He thought they were nowanliable for
tion has been made to him on medical authority that following their calling on Sundays. But if the e committee
it is absolutely requisite, in order to the public retain - agreed to the clause, they would give a legal rightt.to all
ing his invaluable services, that he should have leave of parties to do that which they could not do at present.
absence for no less than six months. I think it will be im- Sir G. GREY said that practically the act of Charles. 11.
possible for the deprertmerit to state its case on a subject of • was inoperative. The fact was a number of refreshment
this kind in tha absence of one who, I May say, has been ; houses and others were open on Sundays, but the parties
the life and soul'of all the post-office arrangements in this were not prosecuted for following their calling. There was
admit to
I country for the last 20 years. Under these circumstances no doubt a law in existence, but it was not, or only very
have no alternative but to pos
seasion, I think it best to drep inquiry which 1 partially enforced. (Hear, hear.)
the
or not Sir RowlMr.S.
consent be fair Tien:landed, and as it is uncertain whether
to alter the
for the '
and HQ may recover before the end of the , Chancellor of the Exchequer would
r 4079 that the order of the day had acted in
arfetseerrveth'ng to myself the renewal of it at a future period •the satisfaction of knowing that while _
da-
the bill—(ironical cheers)— clause in such a manner as that the committeeth might have
selatS xight obtain, ten
is
er
inquiry shall have been made. I would thereto- accordance with the right hon. gentleman's recommen
e L
Bev)) reading oft .1/44, opeag new places where p

Lord CHELMSFORD said that, on a former occasion,
the principle of the bill was folly discussed, and upon a di-
vision, at the instance of the noble lord, was recognised by
a majority. Under these circumstances, he felt he ought
to do no more on the present occasion than move that the
house should resolve itself into committee.

Their lordships then went into committee upon the bill,
Upon the first clause,

Lord TEYNHAM said the noble and learned lord prohi-
bited the sale of vegetables on Sunday, while he permitted
fish, bread, and fruit to be sold; and observed that if he
left out of the exception list anything material which was
required by people on Sunday, the want of it would be felt
by the community until parliament met again. He might
mention that many horses were kept in a very unnatural
state in London; and if, for instance, bran happened to be
absolutely required for one of rhese animals on Sunday,
the selling of it would, under the bill, be treate.4 as a cri-
tainal act. But he also objected to the bill because it was
not general in its application. Sunday trading was car-
ried on both in Liverpool and Birmingham, and what was
good for the metropolis was surely also good for those towns.
He also objected to a fine not exceeding 10s. nor less than
52., believing that in nine out of every ten cases it could
not be recovered without levying a distress, the result of
which would be to deprive many poor persons of all the
property they possessed in the world. (Hear.)

Lord CHELNL-FORD contended that the noble lord had
treated him unfairly by saying that he wished, by the bill,
to, oppress the poor trader. He had introduced the bill
for no other object than to meet, the wishes of thousands of
tradesmen who had petitioned their lordships' house upon
the subject.
The clause was then agreed to.
On clause 2,

Th 3 Duke of SOMERSET thought that it would be a
great hardship if poor people were not allowed to buy a loaf
of bread after nine o'clock, while newspapers could be pur-
chased up to ton o'clock.

The Earl of EGLINTON suggested that the hour
should be ten instead of nine for closing all shops.
The amendment was adopted, and the clause as amended
agreed to.
Clause 3 was agreed to.
On clause 4,

Lord WODEHOUSE said it seemed to hit a harsh
measure that people hawking fruit in the streets should not
be allowed 1.3 cry their goods.

Lord CHELMSFORD said that in the particular part of
the metropolis whore these cries mostly occurred they were
regarded by the inhabitants as one of the greatest nuisances
possible.

The Bishop of CARLISLE said, that having had ex-
perience of London for some 15 years, and knowing how far
these public cries affected congregations, he felt bound to
say that on many occasions he had had to send out of church
during the administration of the Lord's Supper to stop the
cries of fruit.

The clause was then agreed te, as was also clause 5.
Lord CHELMSFORD said tho his noble and learned
friend (Lord Wensleydale), who vies not now present,
wished to introduce a clause after the sth, t. """e off_ct that
the term for which a person guilty of a first offen. e against
the act should be imprisoned should not exceed one calen-
dar month. He saw no objection whatever to the proposed
clause.

The clause was aceerdingly inserted:
Claus6B 6,7, 8, and 9, were agreed to.
Lord TEYNHAM gave notice that Le should take the
"sense of the house upon tho third reading.
BANKRUPT LAW (SCOTLAND) AMENDMENT

BILL.

In committee on this bill,

Lord CHELMSFORD expressed a hope that their lord-
ships would resist the temptation which the abuse of the
present law held out to them to make the bill retrospective.
With a view to prevent such a step, he would move to omit
the words " has been or."

The LORD CHANCELLOR defended the clause in
which these words occurred.
The committee divided—
Contents
Non-contents .. 6-1
The words were therefore retained, and the house re-
sumed.

THE COMMON LODGING HOUSES (IRELAND;

BILL.

This bill was read a second time:
Offences against the Person Bill was read a third time
and passed. •

The Larceny Bill, the Forgery Bill, the Malicious In-
juries to.. Property Bill, the Coinage Offences Bill, the Ac-
cessories and Abettors Bill, and the Criminal Statute Re-
peal Bill were read a third time and passed.
The Exchequer Bills Bill and the Customs Bill were read
a third time and passed.
Their lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(YESTERDAY.)
The SPEAKER took the chair at 4 o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.

The following bills wero read a third time and passed :
Abergavenny Improvenient, Consett District Water,
Leeds Township, and Sovereign Life Assurance Company.
The following bills were considered and ordered for
third reading :7-Banbridge Junction Railway; Belfast and
County Down Railway; Belfast, Holywood, and Bangor
Railway; Buildings Improvement Company; Dublin and
Kingstown, and Dublin and Wicklow Railway Companies ;
Egleston Roads; Keith and Dufftown Railway; Mersey
Docks and Harbour Board ; Upper Mersey Dues, changed
from "Upper Mersey Dues, Purchase, and Conservancy."
The Monkland Railways Bill and the Symington, Biggar,
and Broughton Railway Bill were read a second time.

PETITIONS.
Several petitions were presented against the Wine
Licences Bill, in favour of an alteration in the Irish Poor
Law, in favour of the Metropolitan Gas Bill, against the
Highways Bill, &c.

freshment, they were not going to open a new class of re-
freshment houses on Sundays.
After some further discussion, the committee divided
on the question that the word Sunday be inserted.
For the amendment B2
Against ll7-35 ,
Clause 25 was agreed to.
On clause 26,
Mr. AYRTON suggested that the refreshment houses
having wine licenses should be closed during the hours of
divine service as well as the public-houses and beer-houses.
Mr. Griffith, Mr. Crossley, Mr. James, and Mr. Hardy
supported the same view.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the
clause as drawn ran upon all fours with the words of the
Beer Act. The schedule at the end of the bill restricted
them from the sale of refreshments and wine. He had no
objection, therefore, to introduce into the clause these
words—". Nor shall any such house open for the sale of
wine or any article, whatever." (Hear, hear.)
The clause as amended was agreed to.
On clause 27,
Mr. CROSSLEY proposed an amendment to the effect
that no license should be grantable to any person occupying
such house, in which a third offence shall have been corn •
witted, to sell wine by retail under this act in such house
for the space of five years next ensuing such conviction.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he had
himself prepared an amendment which he thought would
meet the case. The words he proposed to insert were, "or
shall knowingly sell or offer for sale any wine so mixed,
diluted, or adulterated."
After a short conversation the amendment proposed by
the Chancellor of the Exchequer was agreed to.
Clauses 27, 28, 29, and 30 were ordered to stand part of
the bill.
Clause 31 was negatived.
Clauses 32, 33, and 34 were agreed to.
On clause 35, providing for the exemption from the
general operation of the bill to certain places,
Mr. HARDY said the Vintners' Company could, without
taking out a license, open a place for the sale of wine, and
that ought not to be allowed. He would, therefore; move
an amendment to the effect that they be not allowed any
exemption from the operation of this bill.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER explained
that as regarded St. Albans the Mayor and Corporation
claimed under an ancient charter to enjoy the licensing
power which was ordinarily lodged in the hands of the jus-
tices, and consequently it was now proposed to exempt theni.
To adopt the amendment of the hon. member for Leomin-
ster (Mr. Hardy) would be granting too much or too little,
and the effect would be to leave the law in a state of ambi-
guity.
Mr. W. MARTIN said it would be hardly fair to take
away the privilege without notice to the free vintners.
The committee divided—
For Mr. Hardy's amendment. 9O
Against it
Majority —7
The announcement was received with laughter.
The clause was then agreed to.
On clause 36,
Mr. AYRTON moved to leave oat the word " Scotland."
He believed there was no part of her Majesty's dominions
which required a bill to promote temperance so much as
Scotland. (Laughter.) It was a remarkable fact that of
' all the shops of £2O in value, one-half of them were public-
houses. He could not conceive why Scotland should not
come within the operation of the bill.
Lord FERMOY wished to know why Ireland was left
out of the operation of the measure. Of late years the
people of the sister island had become moderate in their
potations, and if this bill were extended to that country
' French wines would no doubt be used to a considerable ex-
' tent. He saw no reason why they should not have their
cheap claret in Ireland as well as in England. (Hear.)
Mr. BLACK said that Scotland did not consume all the
spirits made in Scotland ; a good deal of it was sent across
the border to England.
The CHANCELLOR of the E XCHEQUER said that the
Secretary and Attorney-General fcr Ireland had told him
that there would be little difficulty in adapting the bill to
Ireland, but with respect to Scotland the case was different.
A commission had been sitting on the trade of that country;
that commission had reported, but its report had not as yet
been printed. Under these circumstances he thought it
would be premature to legislate for Scotland.
Mr. M'CANN hoped there would be no delay in extend-
ing the bill to Ireland, as he believed it would be as benefi-
cial for that country as for England. He thought there
would .be no difficulty in introducing the word " Ireland"
into the bill.
Colonel DUNNE was opposed to the extension of this or
of any other of the Government measures to Ireland, as he
considered them all to be rash, impolitic, and inexpedient.
Sir E. GROGAN said that when it was thought the bill
was to extend to Ireland, a considerable agitation was got
up in that country against it. It was then intimated that
Ireland was to be excluded from the bill, and the agitation
subsided. Under these circumstances he thought it would
be a breach of faith to include Ireland in the bill.
Mr. M'CANN persisted in asserted that the feeling of
Ireland was in favour of the bill. He moved that the words
or Ireland" be inserted in the clause.
Sir G. C. LE WIS said the discussion was wholly irrele
vant. If the provisions of the bill were to be extended to
Ireland, it would be necessary to bring up an entire new
set of clauses, as it had been framed exclusively with a
view to English trade and customs,
After a few words from Mr. M'CANN,
Mr. HENLEY thought he might assure the members for
Dublin and Drogheda that, as in the case of the income tax,
the Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer would
oblige his Irish friends by early assimilation With England.
The amendment was withdrawn and the clause agreed to.
The committee then proceeded with the postponed
clauses.

Malicious Injuries to Property Act Amendment Bill, were
read a third time and passed.

Clauses 12 and 13 were negatived.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER brought
up a clause in lieu of clause 12. A question had been raised
on the last discussion as to whether the veto in the license
should he vested in the Middlesex or the police magistrates,
in the case of the metropolis. The Government were of
opinion that it'should be ♦ested in the police magistrates.
Mr. AYRTON protested against placing the metropolis
under a despotism which did not exist in other parts of the

country.
Sir G. C. LEWIS said the hon. member for the Tower
Hamlets was quite in error in supposing that the position
of the stipendiary magistrates in London were the same as
that of stipendiary magistrates in Manchester, Liverpool,
and other places. In London the power of the police ma-
gistrates was exclusive in their own districts. They did
not sit with the other magistrates. But in Liverpool,
Manchester, and elsewhere the stipendiary magistrates sat
with the others, and exercised a concurrent jurisdiction
with them; The clause was prepared with a view of meet-
ing this difference of circumstances. The hon. gentleman
said that the stipendiary magistrates in Middlesex were
in the power of the Crown, and seemed to think
that it was the constant habit of the executive
to interfere with their functions. He (Sir G. C.
Lewis) was not aware of any instance in which the Secre-
tary of State had interfered with the stipendiary magis-
trates. (Hear, hear.) As to the notion of the commis-
sioners of the metropolitan police having any control over
the stipendiary magistrates it was a perfect chimera. The

title of inspectors of police might have a formidable sound
in the ears of the committee, but they were only officers
over the main body of the police ; and they possessed no
control over the magistrates. He thought there was no
ground for the objection of the hon. gentleman.
After a few words from several hen. members in opposi-
tion*to the transferring this duty to the police magistrates,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER sad the
Government had but one wish, and that was that the duty
should be placed in the hands of those who would discharge
it with efficiency. He understood it would be little better
than a sinecure if left in the hands of the Middlesex magis-
trates, but as the feeling of the house seemed to be in the
opposite direction he had no hesitation in giving way to
that feeling. (Hear, hear.) But he must ask for some

time to amend that part of the clause, as a great man/ words
would hag.e to be altered. He would amend it on bringing
up the report,
Mr. HENLEY considered it would be better to adopt ix
this bill the machinery recommended by the public-houses
committee. As the clause now stood the proof required
was all negative. The party was to prove that he was not
an eating-house keeper, a coffee-house keeper, &c. He
considered that it would be much better if the party proved
all that was required before the magistrates in an affirma-
tive way, and by witnesses of character, and if the party
made out his claim the magistrates would certify the fact to
the excise; and the license would issue. It seemed to him

that would be an easy and sure mode of proceeding. For
the purpose, therefore, of raising this question, he would
move that all the words after the word " aforesaid," in line
20, be left out, because all the latter part of the clause re-

quired to be recast.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEUQER said he
should be very glad to hear the suggestion of the right hon.
gentleman more fully discussed by the committee. The
advantage of hearing the views of his right hon. friend was
very great, hut they did not bring conviction to his mind.
tie did not think the Government had done wrong in giv-
ing,he structure thor had to the clause, and he did not con-
..-
sider the reasons of tb: right hon. gentleman were such as
to induce their to accede to his motion.
Mr. S. ESTCOURT suppcited the amendment. If they
wished the magistrate to express An opinion he must do it
affirmatively.

The house then divided, -*hen there appeared—
For the amendment ... lO4
Against it
The Chairman then reported progTeas, and the house re-
sulted.

NUISANCES REMOVAL AND DISEASES PRE-
VENTION BILL.

-, -
On the motion of Mr. AYRTON, the report of the select
committee on masters and operatives of 1856 was referred to
the select committee now sitting.
lqr. LAING moved to discharge an order of the house,
dated April 19, for papers with regard to the case of Mr.
Drought, late surveyor of the Post-office in Ireland, and in-
stead of it to order copies of correspondence between the
Post-office and the Treasury relative to Mr. Drought's
superannuation allowance.

Mr. HENNESSY was much surprised that the Secre-
tary to the Treasury should have made this motion. The
house had sanctioned a return relative to Mr. Drought's
case on the 19th of April, but since then the Post-office au-
thorities had come to the conclusion that they would not
like to have both sides heard. The result would be to make
known the charge against Mr. Drought, and not his de-

fence.
Mr. LAING said this motion had been taken as unop-
posed at an early part of the evening, and, as the corre-
spondence was confidential, it would not be for the benefit
of the public service that it should be published.
Lord FERMOY moved the adjournment of the debate
until this day.
After a few words from Mr. MALINS,
The motion for the adjournment of the debate was

agreed to.
The house adjourned at a quarter after one o'clock.

CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT.—May 14.

OLD COURT.
THE CASE OF THE REV. MR. HATCH.
(Continued from The Sun of yesterdv.)
The summing' up of the learned judge occupied
seven hours and three-quarters in its delivery, and
at a quarter to six o'clock the jury retired to deli-
berate.

They returned into court at eight o'clock and
gave a verdict of guilty.
The foreman of the jury at the Same time handed
to the learned judge a written paper, which his
lordship directed to be read. It was in the follow-
ing terms :—" We find the prisoner, Mary Eugenia
Plummer, guilty, and while we recommend her to
the utmost extent of mercy, we venture at the same
time to express a hope that your lordship, if you
have the power to do so, will direct that any im-
prisonment to which she may be subjected may be
accompanied by a proper course of training and
education of which she has hitherto been deprived,
and probably would still be deprived at home."
There was a burst of applause when the verdict
was delivered, and it was not without difficulty
that it was stopped by the officers of the court. A
great number of perions had assembled outside the
building, and the result of the case was received
with loud cheering.
Baron Channell said he should consult Mr. Justice
Keating with regard to the sentence to be pro-
nounced, and, in the meantime, the defendant might
go at large upon the same recognisances as before.
The father of the defendant was called upon to give
the required recognisances, but he was not in attend-
ance; and eventually agentleman connected with the
solicitors for the defence entered into a recognizance
in the sum of £5OO for the defendant's appearance,
and she left the court with him.

NEW COURT.
(Before the Recorder.)
The trial of William Cox, William Lehmann,
Johan Ferdin and Beschott, William Hauschildt,
and Johan Poll was resumed this morning at the
sitting of the Court.
The Recorder then proceeded to sum up the evi-
dence, and, after referring to the nature of' the in-
dictment, told the jury that the question which the
jury would have to decide was whether the state-
ments of the prisoners were true or false, for there
could not, be any mistake about the character of the
charge as set out on the depositions. The jury
would also take into their consideration that Leh-
mann, Beschott, and Cox were, according to their
owe statement, mere accomplices in the crime which
they charged the captain and mate with. The pri-
, soners had never made any statement or suggestion
while on board the Nicholas Wood, nor at New-
port, and it was not until after there had been some
difference about the wages that the charge was
made. The prisoners who admitted taking part in
the offence with which they charged the captain
and the mate excused themselves by saying that
they being the superior officers the prisoners were
bound by their laws to obey them ; which seemed
to him rather strange when the prisoners knew the
act they were engaged in was an illegal one. Much
had been said by the defence about the discrepancies
in the statement of the captain and the report and
the protest about the day when the vessel went
down ; that he thought must have been a mistake,
as all the people on the Nicholas Wood knew the
day to be the 6th, and then the boats had been one
night at sea. This charge was not a question of
the captain's seamanship, but a question as to whe-
ther what he was charged with was true. With
regard to the captain throwing away the log, it was
true that if he had thrown it away to shield himself
that would tell strongly against him ; but all agreed
that it was not until after the Nicholas Wood had
passed the boat without seeing them, and they had
given themselves up for lost, that the captain threw
-over his sextant, worth £4O, and his bag of clothes,
and the question was whether he was Justified in
doing so. The prisoners said there was nothing in
the weather to-cause him to do so, but the bleak
cook, who all agreed was the witness of truth, said
it was stormy weather and tempestuous. Others
who were in tfie boats spoke of the tempestuous
state of the weather and corroborated the testimony
of the captain, and it was not likely that hey
would favour a man who had placed their lives in
danger, The captain's statement about the leak
was corroborated by the cook, who also spoke of
the tempestuous state of the weather, and to his
having first discovered the fissure which he men-
tioned to Lehmann, the carpenter, and yet he and
the other prisoners had said there were no leaks
save those made by the captain. Persons were sel-
dom known to commit offences without a motive,
and there was nothing to show but that the insu•
rances, with all their risks, would more than cover
the loss of the owners, while the captain would lose
£lOO. It was clear they were in great danger in
the open boat, and would have been lost if not picked
up, and the captain's party were not picked up for
two hours after the passengers' boat, one being at
sea 14 and the other 16 hours. The Recorder then
referred to the other portions of the evidence, and
dwelt upon those where Lehmann bud said that
there had been no foul play by the captain, and that
he had been put over the ship's stern to help to stop
the leak. The Recorder then proceeded to com-
ment upon the evidence as affecting the different
prisoners, and pointed out that the evidence did but
slightly implicate Poll and Hauschildt.
The jury, after an absence of about two hours,
returned a verdict of not guilty against Poll and
Hauschldt, and found the others guilty.
Just as the Court was about to rise the prisoners
were brought up for sentence.
The Recorder said the case against the defend-
ants had been proved upon the clearest testimony.
Beschott; who had been the principal in the mat-
ter, he sentenced to two years', and Lehmann and
Cox to 12 months' imprisonment.
James Schlegel, 32, mason, was indicted for a
burglary in the dwellinghouse of B. Benjamin
Norden, and stealing therein a gold cup and othe r
articles, his property, and also with woundin g
Moses Levy.
Mr. Metcalfe and Mr. F. H. Lewis prosecuted ;
Mr. T. Atkinson defended.

It appeared from the evidence that the prosecu-
;or is a gentleman living in York-place, Portman-
square, and on the night of the 17th of March,
shortly after 12, Levy, the prosecutor's butler, was
awoke with a noise, and went down to the dining-
room, and he there saw a man who had the things
wrapped up in a table cover. Levy, who had
armed himself with an old dress sword; instantly
made a thrust at the man, which broke the point
off, and he then cut at and seized him. The pri-
soner then came behind him and pulled him off the
man whom he first seized. Levy then cut at the
prisoner, and cut him on the cheek, and then
seized him ; the prisoner, however, managed to get
through the window at the back, and on to the
leads, followed by Levy, who most gallantly stuck
to the prisoner, who was stabbed four times in the
shoulder. Prisoner finally got away, but the police
coming up, they found that the prisoners in their
flight had thrown away a handsome gilt vase, an
inkstand, and other property belonging to the pro-
secutor. The prisoner had been seen on the evening
of the robbery, and at that time Ikad no scar on his
face. He was taken into custody on the 21st of
March by Inspector Bryant in Arlington-street,
Clerkenwell, and upon being placed among a num-
ber of other persons Levy was brought to the place
where he was, and at once recognised him. Prisoner
then had a scar on his cheek.
For the defence a most impudent attempt was
made to prove an alibi, and that the scar on the
prisoner's cheek was got on the night of the 17th
.of March at the Alma beer-shop, in the Caledonian-
road, where he lodged.
The landlord of
_this place, who was examined
for the defence, admitted that he had been tried for
receiving stolen goods, and had been upon more oc-
casions than one in the hands of the police for as-
saulting them, and also for harbouring thieves.
The jury found the prisoner guilty, and the sen-
tence of death was recorded.

The house then went into committee on this bill.
Mr. LOWE explained that the measure did not incraase
the power of the central or local boards of health.
Lord FERMOY moved to report progress, whidh .was
consented to, and the house resumed.
The Oxford University Bill, with the Lords' Amend-
ments, was considered.
V 3.9 Marriages i AXtr4 rancllio,l rinoo Diu, Ana t4Q

The Recorder said that the conduct of Levy had
been very commendable, and ordered him an award

£5.

THIRD COURT.
(Before the COmmon Sergeant.)
Gorge Briggs? 11, laborer, lyaffi indicted for

cutting and wounding Robert Styles upon the head,
with intent to do him grievous bodily harm.
Mr. Platt appeared for the prosecution ; the pri-
soner was defended by Mr. Sleigh.
It appeared that the prisoner, a man of respect-
able appearance, whose wife is a laundress at Wal-
•North, in a fit of violent jealousy, and suspecting,
although the prosecutor denied it upon his oath,
that too great a familiarity existed between the
latter and the prisoner's wile, attacked him with a
poker and inflicted some very serious wounds on the
prosecutor.
Mr. Sleigh addressed the jury, commenting on
the evidence, and suggesting that prisoner had acted
under a reasonable suspicion.
The Common Sergeant having summed up, the
jury found the prisoner not guilty.

FOURTH COURT.
(Before Mr. Commissioner Kerr.)
Jacob Philip Meade, 46, shoemaker, was indicted
For conspiracy with others to defraud Wilhelm
Weiscnbach of £6O.

Mr. Gent prosecuted, and Mr. Dickie was for the
prisoner.

The parties are both Germans, and the trick
played on the prosecutor was the old one of being
met by two persons, apparently both strangers to
each other, one of whom had come into property,
and then getting the victim to stake his property.
In this instance the prosecutor was met by the
prisoner and another man near the British Museum,
as far back as the 9th of January. They got him
into a public-house, and induced him to stake a gold ,
snuffbox and some articles of jewellery, to the value
of £5O, against some nearly worthless articles, after
which they got away, and the prisoner was not
taken until the end of April.
The jury found the prisoner guilty, and, there
being another charge for a like offence, where he
got £24 from another German, he was sentenced
to two years' imprisonment.
Geo. Taylor was indicted for receiving a quantity
of silk, the property of Joseph Surr, value £95.
The prosecutor is a warehouseman in King-street,
Cheapside, and the silk was, stolen in August last,
and a few days after the silk was traced to the pri- ,
soner, who at that time got away, but was retaken
in March last by Knight and Funnel, the City de- '
tectives, the latter of whom he severely injured.
Verdict, guilty ; sentence, 15 years' penal servi- :
tude.

POLYTECHNIC INSTITUTION,

An influential public meeting, convened by the
directors to give to the patrons and promoters of
art, science, and industry, and the public generally,
an opportunity of assisting in preserving this ad-
mirable place of instruction from extinction, was
held yesterday in the large theatre of the instals-
don.

The Earl of Shaftesbury occupied the chair, and,
amongst those present were Mr. R. Hanbury,
M.P. ; Mr. Blaney, M.P. ' • Mr. Gregson, M.P. ; the.
Hon. Captain P. Maude, Captain Jones, the' Rev.
C. Mackenzie, the Rev. J. Owen, the Rev. Mr.
Sherman, and Messrs. J. Weylland, Joseph Payne,
W. J. Maxwell, James Bell, J. S. Phone, Futvoye,
F. Gaussen, A. Greatorex, and W. Spottiswoode.
The Rev. J. B. Owen read the report, Vrhich,
stated that the old Polytechnic Institution did not'
fail, nor had it any signs of failure as an institu-
tion ; but the compulsory closing of it was entirely
owing to the costly legal proceedings consequent
upon the lamentable accident whieh occurred in
January, 1859. In pursuance of a resolution.
passed at a previous meeting the committee com-
menced. a vigorous canvas for shares, and were nl.-
timately enabled to register the company under the'
Limited Liability Act. A general meeting having'
authorised the initiation of operations, the direc-
tors agreed to pay the sum of £4OOO to the official
managers appointed by the Court -of Chancery to
wind up the affairs of the late Polytechnic Institu-
tion. There were certain alterations to the insti-
tution which were estimated at £4OOO more malt'
ing a total of £BOOO required. Towards this sum
there had been 900 shares subscribed, which, at
£lO per share, made £9OOO, but as it was proposed
to call up only £7 per share, the present capitar
available would be £6300. Donations £6OO, and
guaranteed loan £650, leaving a deficiency of only
£450. If only 200 more shares were subscribed
the direelors would have no difficulty in carrying
out this l'ery desirable project.
Mr. R. Hanbury, M.P., moved, and Mr. SlaneY>
M.P., seconded, the adoption of the report.
The Chairman, before putting it, said that the
average number of visitors year by year to the old
institution had been no less than 250,000, and to
show how the people from the provinces appreeit
ated it, no less than £11,190 was taken at the'
doors in 1851, during the Great Exhibition, and in
no other year did they exceed £6OOO. ,
The motion was then put and carried unani"
mously.
Other resolutions in favour of the objects of the
meeting having been carried, the proceedings ter'
min ated.

CO_UNIRY MARKETS.

COLHCEST

ER-MAY 12.

A fair supply of wheat, ht la' per qr above last week's
prices. Barley comes scarce, and is fully as dear. Beao
the turn dearer. No peas..
Wheat, white 503 to 56s Beans Mazagan..34s to 374
1
red 46s to 52s I Middle & small 36s to 4?
Barley .. 36s to 505 White peas 36s to 38e
Oats 2os to 2Ss I Grey 36s to 404

CHELMSFORD—MAY 11.
There was a fair supply of wheat to-day, and the best
samples readily realised late rates; inferior is cheaper, with
a dull trade. Peas and beans firm. Oats and barley were.
is dearer.

-- ------.
,Wheat, white 438 to 57s Peas, Partridge ..408 to 416
red 428 to 51s White ......,...40s to 42i
Barley... 36s to ‘Os Boiling .......403 to 433
Chevalier 4OB to 508 Dun ...358 to 380
Grinding .308 to 35s Beans, Tick ...,40s to 43'
Malt • 60s to 66s Harrow Ticks 43s to 466
Chevalier 63s to 68s Nazagan ns to 393
Oats 30s to 39s

KIRKA
Here to-day we have
small of barley, and mode
dine on late rates.
Wheat Barley Oats
First.... 488 Od 338 Od 268 Od'
Second .. Od 38s Od 308 Od
Third .. 54s Od Od _ 31s 6d

.LDY—MA.v 12.
had very fair supplies of wheat/
rate of oats. Sales ready, ait ado'

COAL MARE
(Prices of Coal per Ton a
a. d.

ET-MAY 14.

the close of the market)
Walls End.

Howard's West Hart-
ley 15 9
Wylam
Tanfield Moor Butes 13 3
Bell's Primrose l3 0
Byass's Bekids West

s. d-
Haugh Hall 16
Framwellgate ....16 9
Whitworth ..:16 !
Eden l6 r„
Braddyll'e Hett0n......17
Thorpe .
Russell's Hetton 17 3
Gosforth l6 3
Eden Main l7 u
Halton
South Hetton 36 00
South Durham ...17 ,
South Hart1ep001......17 I
lielloe
Carway and Dern
Malting 22 4'

Hartley . 9
Davison's West Hart-

ley ....15 9
Walker Primrose 13 3

95—Sold, 56.