The Sun.
London, England, 1856-07-22 00:00:00

MR. J. SADLEIR.

Mr. ROEBUCK moved, as an unopposed order,
that Mr. J. Sadleir do attend in his place on Thursday
next.—Agreed to.
The Charities Bill, the Hospitals (Dublin) Bill, the
Burial Grounds (Ireland) Bill, the Mercantile Law
Amendment Bill, and the Lunatic Asylums Superannua•
tions (Ireland) Bill, were read a third time and passed.
JOINT STOCK BANKS BILL.

Mr. VANCE moved that this bill be read a third
time that day three months.
Mr. ROEBUCK thought there was an injudicious
fear in regard to the bill. He thought it was for the
advantage of the shareholders that directors should be
re-appointed. The proprietors could at any time object
to their reelection.
The house then divided :
For the third reading
Against it .
Majority —Bo
The bill then passed.
EAST INDIA BUDGET.
Mr. V. SMITH moved that the house resolve itself into -
a committee on the East India revenue accounts.
Mr. BUTT rose, pursuant to notice, to call attention to
the petition of his Highness Meer Ali Moorad (presented
27th June), and to submit a motion on the subject of the
confiscation of his revenues and territories by the Indian.
Government. He was very un willing to interfere with
the right hon. gentleman, and prevent him from going
into committee, but in order to keep his observations
strictly in order, he intended to move as an amendment,
"That the..honse resolve itself into a committee to consider
how far 'e possessions confiscated from the petitioner
form a portion of the East India revenues." He submitted
such an amendment was perfectly in order.
The SPEAKER slid that this was not a motion for
going into a committee of supply, and therefore the hon.
and learned gentleman was not in order in bringing for.
ward a case of grievance to a particular individual.
Mr. BUTT rose to order. He said the petition he had
presented complained of a matter affecting the revenue of
India, and the house was asked to go into committee to
consider the revenue of India ; and he contended he had a
right to ask the house to consider how far those revenues
were derived from property that had been taken from the -
petitioner.

Lord PALMERSTON said that the object of going into
committee was to enable his right hon. friend to make a
statement as to the revenues of India, and how they were
applied. The matter brought forward by the hon. and
learned member was an individual grievance, which might
be made the subject of a special motion, and had no inti-
mate connexion with the business of the committee.
Mr. BUTT would give way if the noble lord wouldpro•
nits° him Thursday for hii motion. He was quite in order
in stating the grounds on which ho considered his amend•
ment to be regular.
Mr. FITZROY rose to order. It was not competent
for a member to argue a point of order when the Speaker
had declared his proceeding was not in order.
Mr. BUTT submitted to the Speaker that he was oath.
tied to proceed.
The SPEAKER should certainly say that the hon. and
learned gentleman was not in order. '

The motion was then agreed to, and the house went into
committee.

Mr. V. SMITH then rose. He said before proceeding
with his statement, he would allude for a moment to what
had fallen from the hon. and learned gentleman opposite, in
order that the committee might understand the nature of it.
The hon. gentleman appeared to think that they were to dis-
pose of the revenues of India. Such was not the case. It
was thought desirable that the general question of Indian
administration should be brought under notice during the
session of parliament, and that the best way of doing so was
fertile person holding the office he had the honour to fill to
make a statement as to the finances of India, and so give
every member an opportunity of raising any question he
chose. He had notobjected to the hon. and learned gentle-
man making his motion, as he did not wish to appear as pre.
eluding any personfrombringing forwarclagrievance; at the
same time he must say, if the hon. and learned gentleman
had succeeded, his (Mr. V. Smith's) motion must have fal-
len to the ground, and at this period of the session he
could not have hoped for another opportunity of bringing
it forward. On the last occasion on which he had ad-
dressed the house on this subject, be had moved certain
resolutions, the same as had been proposed by his prede-
cessor in office. The hon. gentleman the member for Man-
chester moved some additional resolutions, which em•
bodied a wish that there should be some acceleration in
the preparation of the accounts, and that the statement
should be made at an earlier period of the session. As he
had alluded to the hon. member for Manchester, he wished
to express his exceeding regret at that gentleman's absence
and still greater regret at the cause of it. (Hear, hear.)
Ho had devoted himself w.th all the vigour of his mind
to the cause of India, from no o her motive than his desire
for the welfare of his fellow-creatures, of whatever country
or clime. (Hear.) Re (Mr. V. Smith) had not been able
strictly to comply with one portion of the recommenda-
tions of the resolutions ; for although it was somewhat
earlier in the season, he was nosy as close to the end
of the session as last year, but for that he was not to blame,
as the house had not thought fit to enforce its own resolu-
tion, but had preferred the more important questions of
peace and war to the details of Indian finance. In refer-
ence to the early production of the accounts, he had placed
himself in communication with the Board of Directors.
Ha was warmly aided by them. They applied to the local
government, and the result was that the accounts had
been presented this year on the 13th of March, instead of
the 18th of May, as last year ; and although the actual ac-
counts had not been brought down to a later period than
before, he had been furnished with a sketch estimate for
the year 185 G-57. He thought this was going quite as far
as was desirable. He would read to the committee the
figures o❑ which that sketch estimate was founded, and
compare it with the actual statement for 1853.51. The
only inconvenience of this course would be, that hon. gen-
tlemen could not make the comparison for themselves, as
the statement for 1856.57 had not been printed and circu-
lated. The statement for 1853-54, which was the same as
he had given last year, was as follows :-
1. Bengal—
Net revenue
Local charges .. 2,200,944

Local surplus £5,395,738
North-Western provinces—
Revenue
Local charges

5,656,674
1,547,106

Local surplus £4,109,568
Military charges of Bengal and North-
Western provinces

6,026,334

Net revenue of ditto
Total charges of ditto

13,753,35 G
9,774,486