The Sun.
London, England, 1869-04-15 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, THURSDAY EVENING, APRIL, 15, 1869.

1111SCEL LA
PROFESSIONAL BEGGARS. —At Westminster PoEce.court
on Wednesday, a sturdy-looking man was charged with
' THE COKING CONTE T.
Mr. Disraeli's amendments of the Irish Church
begging. The magistrate took the opportunity of referring Bill having been thoroughly discussed, Ministerialists
to a recent letter in the Times, in which it was stated no expect that the measure will pass through the Commons even more rapidly than they had at first
constable could interfere with a beggar unless given into hoped. They consider the amendments so absurd
his charge by a civilian, mr. Arnold took- occasion to and impracticable, they hold that Mr. Disraeli has
correct that impression. If a policeman saw a vagrant bungled so tremendously, that every one of his
in the act of begging, it was his duty to arrest him, and, proposals will be rejected by a large majority. More
as a rule, such cases were dealt with in the absence of than that, they believe that his own party will be
corroborative evidence. brgken up in consequence of the nature of the

NEWS.

A FATAL ACCIDENT. - At Clerkenwell, on Wednesday,
a carman, named Stephen Ford, was charged with causing
the death of a solicitor, named Ware, of Chard, Somerset-
shire, and Arthur-street, London Bridge. It appeared
from the evidence that the accident was not dne to the
prisoner, as the deceased fell under the wheels of his cart
while in a state of intoxication. Ford was accordingly
discharged.

amendments. These ;virtually admit both disendow:
ment and disestablishment, and so the "No Sur-
render" section, of whom Mr. Newdegate is the type,
find themselves betrayed. At the same time the
moderate section whom Lord Stanley represents, and
who consider that a considerable portion of
the funds ought to be taken from the
Church and applied to other than ecclesi-
astical uses, will be unable honestly to support
propositions which actually leave no surplus at all, if

uv surplus ai
even they do not make the Irish Church a creditor
instead of a debtor. It is noteworthy, by the way,
that both Mr. Newdegate and Lord Stanley were
absent from the meeting at Lord Lonsdale's. Mr.
Gladstone himself proposes some amendments to the
bill, which, of course, do not involve any concession
of principles, but are intended only to carry out
those principles more effectually. According to
the Owl, Ministers, after consideration of Mr.
Disraeli's amendments, " confidently believe that by
Whitsuntide the measure, without any material
alterations, save what may arise from concession on
their part, will be ready for presentation to the
louse of Lords."

THE ST. JAMES'S HALL MEETING.
The lay meeting for protesting against the Irish
Church Bill promises to be nearly as influential as
the famous clerical demonstration of last year. In
the place of the archbishop, bishops, and deans, on
May 3, we are to have dukes, earls, viscounts, M.P.'s,
and notable laymen. The Earl of Harrowby takes
thee chair, and is to be supported by the Duke of
Marlborough, the Duke of Abercorn the Marquis
of Hamilton Viscount Sandon, M.P. or Liverpool;
Sir Joseph Rapier the Hon. D. Plunkett, and Mr.
J. C. Colquhoun. But though the attendants of the
meeting stand so high, in raison d'être it is very far
below the meeting over which the late Archbishop
had to exercise his control. Then the question had
hardly been discussed to the sill ; now the very name
is weariness. Then the opinion of the country had
ffot been tested, was hardly, perhaps, properly formed;
now a House of Commons sits elected almost solely
to deal with the Irish Church.
THE KNIGHT OF KERRY ON THE IRISH CHURCH.
The Knight of Kerry writes a very ingenious
letter to the Times on the Irish Church question,
referring generally to the disendowment scheme, and
particularly to the question of tithes. He protests
against the tax being used for other than religious
purposes ; laying down as an incontrovertible propo-
sition " that if on any particular description of pro-
perty the State shall impose a special charge for a
special purpose, so soon as the State shall decide
that the special purpose shall no longer
be maintained, the charge should in justice
cease also." Sir P. Fitzgerald points out that
in return for the charge the Protestant was pro-
vided with religious instruction. It was evidently
unfair for the Roman Catholic to have to pay it
because he could not attend the ministrations pro-
vided by it. But it is now equally unfair to require
the Protestant to pay his money, and give him no
adequate return. The lion. knight proposes instead
that the tithes as such shall, after a manner,
cease, but that provision shall be made for the pay-
ment by Roman Catholics to their Church, of Pro-
testants to theirs, of Dissenters to theirs. In effect
the scheme is one for equal
.endowment, the plan
propounded by Dean Stanley and definitely accepted
by no party in the State.
MR. CHARLEY ON DISESTABLISHMENT.

Mr. Charley, who told his constituents at Salford
that he was sent into the world to be the scourge of
Mr. Gladstone, writes to the :Telegraph explaining the
policy of the Conservative party with reference to
disestablishment. Our sanguine contemporary
thought that the Tories had accepted disestablish-
ment. By no means, writes the agent of righteous
vengeance; if they had, the party would be deserving
of political annihilation. We will not, nor do we
intend, to accept the principle of the bill. ,The
rejection of the second clause, the very root of the
bill, Mr. Disraeli proposes to omit altogether.
RELIGIOUS SELFISHNESS.
Some of the Low Church party in London are
very angry because grants are made from the Bishop
of London's Fund to all parties. The Low Church-
men think that they alone ought to receive the
money. They forget that it is contributed to by
High Churchmen as well, and that if these got
nothing, they would give nothing. The loss of their
gifts would be all bat fatal to the existence of the
fund, if we are to judge from the disgracefully small
collection made in behalf of the fund last Sunday at
a very well-known fashionable 'West-end church,
whereof one of the most popular preachers of the
Low Church party is incumbent.
ARCHBISHOP MANNING AND THE FENIAN PRISONERS.
On Tuesday a deputation from the English
Amnesty Committee waited on Archbishop Manniug,N
to ask him to reconsider his decision not to allow
petitions on behalf of the Fenian prisoners to lie
for signature at the doors of the Catholic churches
and chapels throughout London. The Archbishop,
after hearing their arguments, said that his feelings
and sympathies, were strongly in their favour. He
distinguished political offences from all other forms
of offence, and on the ground of profound sympathy
with Ireland no one would be ready to go farther on
behalf of those poor men than himself. He was only
limited in that by his duty and his conscience. He
promised to reconsider his decision, and to communi-
cate it to them in writing. If his reply should prove
adverse to their wishes, he begged they would under-
stand that it was not in the end to be gained
that they differed, but in the means which
ought to be used. In the course of his address
Dr. Manning said that when two years ago
he had been asked to permit the same thing on
behalf of two condemned prisoners he had told the
applicants that they would do more wisely to dis-
engage themselves from the Catholic Church, and
place themselves upon a much wider, because
national, sympathy. In the present case he had
expressed his sentiments in his letter to Lord Grey
on the subject, and he had spoken in the same
manner to the leading statesmen of the day.
LAW REYORM.
The Owl makes the important announeemeni that
the first report of the Judicature Commission will very
shortly be published. Among its recommendations
will be found a proposal for the consolidation of ail
the courts, both of law and equity, into one supreme
court, which will be divided, after the Scotch plan,
into chambers or divisions. It will also propose that
pleadings be simplified, and official referees attached
to the various courts as scientific assessors, following
the recommendations of the Patent Law Commission
of 1804. The Home Circuit is condemned, and
the remodelling of other circuits is proposed.
A now Court of Appeal is to be constituted
to take the place of the Exchequer Chamber, Privy
Council, and Chancery Appeal Courts. Lastly, all
the recommendations of the House of Commons'
Committee of last year on Common and Special
Juries are . adopted. We believe that the most
important features of this scheme are due to Lord
Cairns.

An attempt is to be made to obtain for the whole
of the legal profession a share in the funds of the
Inns of Court, which are now appropriated entirely
by the barristers. To this end an inquiry will be
urged into the nature of the grants under which the
legal universities hold their property.
NAVAL ITEMS.
The Owl states that the flying squadron will leave
England about the 10th of June for Bahia. where it
will be joined by the Phoebe, from the West Indies ;
thence to Rio de Janeiro, and on to the Cape of
Good Hope, which it will leave about the end of
September for Melbourne and Sydney, visiting New
Zealand about the middle of January, reaching
Japan in March, and Vancouver's Island at the end
of April; thence home, touching at Honolulu,
Tahiti, Valparaiso, and the Falkland Islands, so as
to reach England by the middle of October .f next
year.

EMIGRATION.
On Tuesday a remarkable scene took place at the
St. Pancras Station of the Midland Railway, when a
body of artisans and labourers took their departure
for Canada. This movement was in continuation
of an experiment made last year, when
some artisans from the East-end were despatched to
America. In consequence of a favourable report
from Mr. Dixon, the emigration agent to the Canadian
Government, the committee appointed for the purpose
resolved to further the work this year. Great care
was taken in the selection of the emigrants, the can-
didates being greatly in excess of the means of the
committee. It was satisfactory to find that all the
travellers were delighted at the prospect before
them, and seemed full of confidence. As ninny
as 397 persons started on Tuesday for the New
World under the auspices of the committee. As
the train left the station, a ringing cheer burst forth
from the emigrants, which was returned from the
crowd on the platform. A second party is expected
to follow very speedily.

wal, r innabracx and the Brenner rass. lravellere
will thus have an opportunity of seeing ona of the
most beautiful portions of both Austrian and Italian
Tyrol. The journey from Innsbruck to Verona over
the Alps and down the valley of the Adige is, experto
crede, very well worth taking.

According to the Times correspondent, Mr. Johnson is
preparing for his contemplated political campaign in Ten-
nessee, and has already entered into several speech-making
engagements at various towns during April. His poli-
tical career is not ended.

ments.

(From the Anglo-American Times.)
The debate on the repeal of the Tenure-of-Office
Act was resumed on the 20th March, Senator
Thayer making a long speech. He modified his
substitute to thirty days after the commencement
of a session in which to receive the President's re-
port of the names of the removed, and the causes
why, during the recess. The substitute was offered
to get a direct vote for repeal. No good reason bad
been given in the long debate why the act should not
be repealed. It was passed to check a dishonest Pre-
sident, not to put manacles on an honest one. His
knowledge of human nature told him that the Pre-
sident must desire the repeal, as would any Senator
in his place. One of his owe reasons for desiring
the repeal was that the President might be free to
turn out the Johnson men and Copperheads still in
office. The Senator from Missouri (i\lr. Schurz)
had denounced the system of distributing patronage
in the interests of a party as a curse ; but he (Mr.
Thayer) believed the true doctrine to be that the
patronage of the Government rightfully belonged
to the party in power by the verdict of the people.
He knew it was fashionable to decry this view,
but he would like to see the Senator who did not
seek to exercise the right of dispensing patronage
to his friends. The man who would not do so
would soon be without friends, and would deserve
to be so ; and tha political party that refused to
reward its own supporters and followers would
soon go to the wall, and would deserve to do so.
Senator Thurman knew of no Copperhead party ;
the Senator meant the Deniocrats, and he could
scarcely expect them to vote for the repeal as a
means to facilitate the removal of their few office-
_holders. In his State (Ohio) there were but two
in Federal posts ; both distinguished officers, and
one with a wound that would afflict him for life.
Senator Drake favoured repeal, but not suspension,
which was but saying to the President, we will try
you till nextsession, and he was not one that deserved
such treatment. He also desired to see corrupt officers
and those unfriendly to the Republican party turned
out, for he was a party man, and as his party saved
the country, and in power would promote its wel-
fare, he would use all Executive patronage in its
support. Senator Morrill, of Vermont, would
modify rather than repeal or suspend. Every
Senator who had voted for the impeachment of
President Johnson, on Article 111., had in that
vote shown the judgment that, in violating this
law, the President had violated the Constitution.
How, therefore, could these Senators now vote for
the repeal ? It was not passed as a temporary de-
vice, but as a permanent policy. He dissented from
the last speaker with regard to Government patron-
age. It was unquestionably true that the party in
power might at any time properly take to itself the
chief offices of the Government, yet it was just as
certain that the system whin changed every public
office of Government at the end of every four years
was a great evil. Senator Casserly said he thought
the question was, in whom is vested the power of
removal, arguing to show that it was not vested in
the Senate, nor in the President with the advice and
consent of the Senate, but in the President alone.
Nor was this merely constitutional, but also the
only reasonable view, as the sole means of insuring
a faithful administration of public affairs. Regarding
the doctrine implied in the Act as a dangerous
heresy be would vote for an absolute repeal of the
law. This closed the debate on the 20th ult., and
the anti-repealers met in caucus on the 22d, in the
hope that the repealers, without the Democrats
being in a hopeless minority, would be committed
by the resolution of the caucus. Grant and his
friends went strongly for absolute repeal, and the
hungry office-seekers raised a clamour for it in every
part of Washington, as they believed it to stand
between them and that for which their souls thirsted.
It was proposed to suspend the law during Grant's
term, but nothing less would satisfy the Grant
party than total repeal, and those who favoured that
finding it hopeless seceded amid a storm of excite-
ment. Another caucus was held in the afternoon,
and the majority decided to send the bill and the
amendments di. cussed back to the Judiciary Com-
mittee, in the hope that Grant might be prevailed
on to accept a tro3ification. Considering the
position in which the Senators who favoured the
retention of the power conferred by the bill west
placed, their obstinacy showed how difficult it is to
wrench power, from an assembly, even temporarily
conferred. Here was a powerful President, in the
height of his popularity who hail set his mind on
its repeal, b hind him was a House of Representa-
tives which had voted almost unanimously for a total
repeal ; around them were crowds of office-seekers
clamouring for them to give way, leaving the Pre-
sident's hands free to create vacancies and to give
them the posts. When we reflect on the position
with the, knowledge we have that this bare majority
in the end overcame all opposition, and actually
carried off the bone, in spite of the world and the
best men of their own body, we are surprised at the
strength with which such a clique can fight. Oa the
24th Senator Trumbull, from the Committee on
Judiciary, reported the bill as follows :
e An act regulating the tenure of certain civil offices,'
passed March 2, 180, be and the same are hereby repealed,
and in lieu of said repealed sections the following are
hereby enacted:
"That every person holding any civil office to which he
has been, or hereafter may be, appointed by and with the
advice and consent of the Senate, and who shall have be-
come duly qualified to act therein, shall be entitled to hold
such office during the term for which he shall have been
appointed, unless sooner removed by and with the advice
and consent of the Senate, or by the appointment, with
the like advice abd consent, of a successor in his place, , ex-
cept as herein otherwise provided.
" Sec. 2. And be it further enacted, That during any
recess of the Senate the President is hereby empowered in
his discretion to suspend any civil officer appointed by and
with the advice and consent of the Senate, except Judges
of the United States Courts, until the end of the next ses-
sion of the Senate, and to designate some suitable person,
subject to be removed in his discretion by the resignation' of another, to perform the duties of such susrp'ended officer
in the meantime, and such person so designated shall take
the oaths, and give the bonds required by law to be taken
and given by the suspended officer, and shall, during the
time he performs his duties, be entitled to the salary and
emoluments of such officer, no part of which shall belong
to the officer-suspended. And it shall be the duty of the
President within 30 days after the commencement of each
session of the Senate, except for any office which in his
opinion ought not to be filled, to nominate persons to fill
all vacancies iu office which existed at the meeting of the
Senate, whether temporarily filled or not, and also in the
place of all officers suspended, and if the Senate during
such session shall refuse to advise and consent to an ap-
pointment in tko place of any suspended officer, and shall
also refuse by vote to assent to his suspension, then, and not
otherwise, such officer at the end of the session shall be
entitled to resume the possession of the office from which
he was suspended, and afterward to discharge its' duties
and receive its emoluments as though no such suspension
had taken place."
Various motions were made to defeat the Bill, but
in vain. On the morning of that day the Republi-
can Senators had again met in caucus to hear the
report, and had agreeci-on the amendment known
as the Conkling modification. It had been submitted
to the President by a sub-committee, to whom Gen.
Grant bad stated that his principal objection to
the law was the provision preventing him from
making removals during the recess of the Senate.
As the proposed modification contained none of the
features to which he objected he was satisfied with
it, and hoped there would be no further. 'delay.
Hence the vote was now a foregone conclusion, the
chief difficulty being removed. A debate, however,
followed, which was made remarkable by the sayings
of Senator Sprague, of Rhode Island', A few days
before be had expressed an opinion against the pre-
ponderance in Congress of men of one profession,
as unfitting it to control the appointing power of
the President. Though he had'earefully avoided
reference to any individual, Senator Nye had attacked
him, he said, personally in reply, and raised a laugh
in the galleries. Turning to,that quarter, the Sena-
tor remarked he felt justified in addressing to them
a few words. They were better clothed than the
masses, but each might judge for himself whether
ere was more virtue Onder these gaudy habili-
He did not NV *der that they laughed at
is warning.
" The teaching of tholiast had educated them to make
ght of serious things, and had made them of a frivolous,
hougbtless, senseless disposition. They reminded him of
he idiotic inmate of a burning dwelling, who laughed at
he warning and perished in the flames. He would,

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• Births. .
' IKOSTYN—On O roll
le 14th inst., at 93, Eaton-square, the
Mrs. Alostyn, of a daughter.
WiLsoN---au the 13th inst., at Meadowbank, Lower 9
wood, Mrs. Adam Wilson, of a daughter.

Marriages.
Or Glnnox—Simstn.—On the 14th inst., at Saint Paureloce,
vent Garden, Henry Gibbon of No. 6, Clarendon-910
Maidstone, to Louise, youngest
(laughter of the late
Skinner, of Clivo House, Loose, Kent.
1104
iluonEs —WARD—On tlii 14th inst., at Croydon, 'lv/
Lund Hughes, Esq., of St. Leonard's, Mortlake, to I'vot'
both, fifth daughter 'off the late Joseph Ward, Esq.,
hill House, Epson; Surrey.

• Deaths. el
GRIEVE —On the 13th inst pa
, at Kilburn, William .-
Gtieve, Esq., aged 75. •
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HUGIIES - on the 12th lust , at hit residence, Stlllllf °a/
bill, Isaac Hughes, aged 49.
,;„toV
SCOTT-011 the 13th inst , Mrs. Mark Scott, of SA'l"
in-Craven, aged 64. •

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