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disagreeable state of things. He trusted the expression
of their lordships' opinion, that both parties were most
shamefully to blame, and that there was no sympathy for
either the one or the other, in this miserable contest, would
have some effect on those persons who were, he believed,
both the one and the other, in the wrong. He had said,
and he believed, that if the matter was placed in his hands,
it could be arranged ; but it must be an unconditional
surrender to the ordinary of the place. He must be called
in to settle these d'sturbances ; and he hoped he
was not thinking too much of himself or his office,
when he said he had full confidence that there was so much

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good feeling among Englishmen that, whenever they had
no doubt as to where the authority lay, or as to how far
those who exercised the authority wore entitled to exercise

it, they would be quite ready to give way to it. If the rector
of that parish would do what he ought to have done months

ago, and say, " I am unable to manage this parish, I beg
the bishop Of the diocese to manage it for nae," all the mis-
chief might be put an end to,
The LORD CHANCELLOR said the case of " Allen v.
King" came before the Court of Queen's Bench when he
had the honour of filling the office of Lord Chief Justice.
It was contended on the part of the Rev. Bryan King that
the Rev. Mr. Allen had no legal right to officiate as lecturer
in the church of St. George's-in• the-East without Mr.

King's consent. The court decided that Mr. Bryan Kin•
was wrong and Mr. Allen right ; but they earnestly recom
mended the parties to try and come to some amicable
arrangement. ' With regard to his presenting Mr. Allen to
the living of St. George's, Southwark, he (the Lord Chan-
cellor) was informed that it was of importance that some
active and zealous clergyman should be appointed to pre-
side over so populous a parish. He was wholly unac-
quainted with him, but he was recommended to him, along
with a great many others, as being a most zealous pastor
and a most upright and pious man. He received a great
variety of testimonials of a most unexceptional character
stating his fitness fur such a charge ; but, not contented
with these, he applied to the Bishop of London, because
he was afraid that Mr. Allen might have incurred some
blame in the controversies at St. George's-in-the-East,
for the purpose of ascertaining whether he had done any-
thing in those transactions which affected his character,
and rendered him an unfit person to be appointed rector
of the parish. The right reverend prelate testified to him
that Mr. Allen's conduct, as far as he knew, had been
unexceptionable, and that he was a proper person to
receive the appointment. Upon that he presented him
to the living, and up to that hour he be •
lieved he had discharged his duties in a manner
calculated to give great satisfaction. (Hear, hear.) With
regard to what had fallen from the noble viscount (Lord
Dungannon), he would ask him on whom did he propose
censure should fall in regard to the continuance of the riots
at St. George's-in-the-East ? It could not fall upon the
Bishop of London, nor upon the Home Secretary. And he
had not shown any other individual whose duty it was to
suppress these outrages who was at all to blame. He hoped,
however, that the expression of feeling in deploring these
transactions, which the noble viscount had called forth from
all quarters of the house, would satisfy him, and induce
him to withdraw his motion.
The Bishop of CASHEL bore strong testimony to the
character of the Rev. Mr. Alit n, and observed that he had
never seen such a large and attentive congregation in his
life as that which he witnessed on one occasion at St. Jude's,
Whitechapel, where that rev. gentleman officiated. The
right rev. prelate was proceeding to ef,mplain of the charges
which were brought against Mr. Allen, when
Lord DUNGANNON observed that he had brought no
charge whatever against Mr. Allen.
Earl GRANVILLE rose to order, and said he thought
it was now high time the eonvcrsation should come to a
close.

The Earl of WICKLOW denied that he wished to throw
any imputation upon the gentleman whose character had
been so highly spoken to by two right rev. prelates. He
knew nothing of him whatever, he only quoted the words of
a pamphlet which had beencirculated throughout the whole
country, and in which much stronger words than he had
used appeared. And he had asked the Bishop of London
whether Mr. Bryan Kin did not inform him of those par-
ticular circumstances, He would now ask the right rev.
prelate whether he did or did not try to ascertain what
were the reasons why the rev. gentleman was obliged to
relinquish the living of St. Luke's, Old-street ?
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE rose to order. The
noble earl, instead of simply explaining, was now comment-
ing on the speech of the right rev. prelate. -
After a few words from the Earl of WICKLOW in reply,
Earl STANHOPE regretted very much that the Rev.
Mr. Allen's name had been introduced in this discussion
without any necessity. But he would not advert further to
that gentleman, whose character had been completely vin-
dicated by the testimen) of two right rev. prelates and by
the Lord Chancellor, who had bestowed the benefice upon
him. His object in rising was only to advert to the unfor-
tunate transactions at St. George's-in-the-East. His own
opinion was the same as that expressed ;by several of their
lordships, namely, that both parties were to blame. The
outrages in that church against the Rev. Mr. King were
utterly indefensible ; but, on the other hand, it must be
regretted that Mr. King, though doubtless actuated by
conscientious motives, proceeded to the extremity of his
legal rights, and thus produced an almost universal
feeling of dissatisfaction at his conduct. These distur-
bances arose out of ritual observances which were not
essential to divine service. In the letter which the noble
lord opposite had read, it was said that these services did
not differ in any respect from those in a cathedral ; but
his church was not a cathedral, and what authority had
he to introduce cathedral services into a parish church ? He
was persuaded that the only way of bringing these unhappy
disturbances to a termination was to submit them to the
arbitration of the bishop of the diocese. It appeared that
the parishioners were anxious for such a course. He hoped
the rev. gentleman would reconsider the subject and agree
to it also, with a view of restoring peace to his parish.
After the expressions which the debate had elicited, he
hoped the noble lord would not press his motion.
Lord CHELMSFORD thought that in fairness to the
Rev. Mr. Allen, whose character had been assailed by the
noble earl opposite—
Lord WICKLOW—No.
Lord CHELMSFORD—It was quite right that the
Bishop of London should explain and vindicate not only
that gentleman's conduct but his own with regard to
these transactions. The question was not what was the
origin of these unhappy scandals, nor were they called upon
to adjust the proportion of blame attachable to the different
parties. But his noble friend complained that sufficient
power and energy had not been displayed in putting down
these disturbances. They had, however, no evidence to show
that if a different course of action had been pursued it would
have produced a better result. His noble friend (Lord
Wensleydale) had said that the magistrates were too lenient
on some occasions when defendants were brought before
them. That was a very strong charge to snake against ma-
gistrates without more information is to the einumstances
of the case, because there was great difficulty in obtaining
evidence, and it was this want of evidence, and particularly
the want of proof of identity, that occasioned the failure of
charges of this description. lie objected to the motion,
which, if passed, would be perfectly futile, and he hoped the
noble lord after the expressions of feeling which it had called
forth, would consent to withdraw it.
Lord DUNGANNON briefly replied.
The motion was then withdrawn.
CLERGY OF THE DIOCESE OF CLONFERT.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE presented a petition
from the clergy of the diocese of Clonfert, praying for a
restoration of tkat portion of the revenues of their benefices
commonly call the " Quarta pars," which was fotmerly ap-
propriated to increase the income of the bishop, but which
had latterly been put at the disposal of the Ecclesiastical
Commissioners.