The Sun.
London, England, 1856-11-17 00:00:00

The Court adjourned at 2 o'clock for a few minutes.

On the return of the Lord Mayor,
Mr. Lewis proceeded to cross.exarnine the witness.
He said—l have stated all I know about Burgess in
connection with the robbery. lam 40 years of age. I
am not a forger, nor never forged or uttered a forged
instrument. I was convicted on false evidence for ut-
tering forged instruments. I have received the pro-
ceed. ofifour or Eve forgeries of bankers' cheques in small
amounts. I knew a man of the name of Nash, who was
transported. He was an acquaintance ut trine. I never
received from him the proceeds of forged checks or bills.
I have recAved money from him.

Mr. Lewis pressed the witness on these transactions,
but he declind answering thEt questions, and appealed
to the Lord Mayor. .
The Lord Mayor told Cee witness he need not answer
the questions if he did r.et like.
Witness continued--I have stated what I have done,
and I decline to state anything connected with the trans-
actions alluded I have made false keys for five
years past. During the past twelve years I have passed
by the naraes of Whitfield, Adams, Agar, Richardson,
and Archer. Agar is my real name, but I mostly went
by the, name of Archer. I have known Seward six or
seveli years, and had many transactions with him by dis-
counting bills for persons he has intro iuoed to me. The
bills so discount:A were tradesmen's bills, and not
the result of stolen produce. I read and knew of Seal
being in custody for the robbery. I have seen Seal, but
I don't know him. He termer!), kept a betting office
in Bedford-street. I read Seal's examination in the
newspao ers. I did net trouble
.my bead about coming
forward.. I looked as it as only a casual matter. Wit-
' nests declined to answer how he had obtained his living
for the last tea years. I lived in Chiswell-street as a
servant, but no robbery took place in the establishment
whilst I was there. I never heard till now of 'a robbery
having taken place at Mrs. Davis's, where I lived as a
servant. I never heard of an action being brought
against the foreign railways for this robbery. I have
visited America six or seven times during the last ten
years. I never took property there for sale.- I have
taken bank notes there.

By Mr. Bodkin—Seward is about 45 years of age. He
is rather stout, and about 5 feet 1 inch or five feet two
inches in height. There are two brothers, Henry and
James. The man I referred to is called James. He is
of a dark complexion, with dark hair.
Cross-examination continued—On my return I have
brought my money back again, and as much more as I
could make. Seward has written ono or two letters
for me, but I can't remember on what occasion nor when.
I can write myself. After Seward has written the let-
ters for me I have not been in receipt of money in con-
seepenca. I and Pierce went to Sterne's and
met Burgess, knowing he used the place. I can't
say if the meetings were by accident or design.
We knew the time Burgess's train would arrive, and we
went to Sterne's expecting to see him. Some meetings
were by appointment, but it is impossible for toe now to
say which and when they were. I always knew the
train Burgess was .on. He continued on one train for
a month at a time. I have known him to be on a train
for two months at a time. The keys were tried seven
or eight times before they were found to fit, and it ex-
pended over a period of probab!y three months. Bur-
gess was al waye in the van, It was the break van.
Sometimes the van was next the tender, and at other
times a carriage was between them. The guard in the
break van can see through a window in front the engine.
man and stoker, but they cannot see into all the vans.
The guard carries a light in his van. I think on the
night of the robbery the engine-driver and stoker might
have looked into the van. We commenced operations
as soon as the train started, and bad one of the boxes
open when we got to Rygate. We made no loud
knocking, and I doubt if they could have heard it. After
the was committed I saw nothing of Burgess till
the division of the spoil at Pieree'e house at Kilburn. I

cannot say how long that was after the robbe;;;;;;;;th:.
day of the week on which the division took place. I
can't give the month, day, or week when this took
p:ace. It must have been shortly before my arrest.
Mr. ,Lewis declined further cross-examining the wit-
ness until a future day, when the boxes in which the
gold was packed are to be produced.
The witness was re-examined by Mr. Bodkin, and
minutely described the formation of the break van and
the window in front with the sliding door shutting off
the luggage ; the iron safes were placed at the back pat t
of the van,' and where the boxes were broken open no
one could see it.. On one occasion during that night
Burg e a s hung his cape in front of the window.
ThNe'ayii:tuyilleid47a,tsasearecshiectable looking female, was next
nailed and put into the witness box before Agar left.
other and shook hand.., and en Agar's leaviro e followed him out, of the court and re-
mained a eeee4e;. On her return she was savor-,
ayl,acird,urr
a'-'vd,..—, M,:vmeeintins.e ie Fanny Polar* Kay. lam 2.5
mttn,
in
the.duticaarried. I was fo!mer:y engaged 15 nit
refreshment room at Tunbridge station.
I there formed a:,hbiy,,lbviisrecnabnaTutauce with Burgess, who was
aAgguararals,
into the room. I Tired with
7two years ; and I have a child
new tinont 2 years andmonths old. I was introduced
by 'Burgess at
I
en 0
rai nu
at i Remn rail,ea ee Icif , 1 :
la,
ninon( igx f ultimatelyor Withd.stiriieme
Oxford-street.
1 r i iliel
to Agar
name of Adams. 8„,,e,1a n'1"1"1-bridge station in the
Agar was a friend of
lhiivain;g thatwith lheidm.to
June, 1853, in Margaret-stree
gent from there to Southampton
June and remained
till Pclober, residing after that at Gra
fniinwin,g.in Sljtafrm,l3.:r,
me there, and I went to the at
) tednwichiivelid ewhi!l".;
him at Cambridge-villas, Shepheeeeu'sb I
1854, and remained till July
atonally had lodgings elsewhere when I lived ' Led
had seen Pierce in Burgess's company pre,iowili'h hitt).
being introduced to Agar. . Agar called him P:pcpktoehaurc:
and he'answered t,) that name. Burgess never addrearu.
Pierce by name in my presence. Pierce once resided in
Walnut-tree-walk. Burgess, Pierce, and Agar a
on intimate terms. I only saw Burgess and Agar toge-
ther once at the Green Man, in Toeles-street. ',have
seen Pierce and Agar frequently together. When I
rof,ii!eff with Agar in Flarleyford-place, Pierce was fro•
quently there. I bad a servant at that time, named
Charlotte Baker. Azar did not live with me there, he
tup only occasionally, and brought Pierce with him.