The Sun.
London, England, 1869-10-21 00:00:00

IIv7ERVIEIVI.NG.

(From the Anglo American Times.)
Interviewing has been the rage in New York,
everybody being interviewed, from Commodore
Vanderbilt down to George Francis Train, and from
the Harvard Boys just landed from Paris to Jay
Gould. Fisk was pursued by an interviewer even
into the presence of the President's brother-in-lay'/
but that slippery customer was not caught. Mr.
Gould's tone was all that could be desired, although
the reporter had just found him where his employes
declared he was not, and had also returned from 3
wild-goose chase, on which he had been sent by Gould
after Mr. Fisk. Ile deeply regretted the financial des
pression, but he had foreseen and predicted it to the
President and to Mr. Bout well. He had convinced
the President, whom he had intercepted on his way
to the Peace Jubilee that throwing gold on the
market was au injurious policy for the Treasury.
He thought the metal ought to be at a premium of,
45 in the autumn during the expert of grain. The
agricultural districts of Europe were placed on an
advantage by their better currency, and last spring,
when the Secretary was throwing gold on the market,
on one day he had been obliged to countermand the
shipment of 400 carloads of grain. He had net
brought on the present panic, and he could net
imagine why any man could be so crazy as to WI
gold at 160 when Mr. Gould was selling it at 145.
On the 22nd September he had forwarded a despatch
to Mr. Boutwell, showing how the panic had been
engineered by a " bear " combination, and that
in consequence of it he required $BOO,OOO in cur-
rency to pay his 10,000 einploye's on the Erie line'
which he requested and advised the Secretary t°
lend him. While the sanctimonious Gould s'ila
reading the despatch, Fisk came in and discussed
matters after this style :
" There was a time when he was very sensitive, but
newspapers had made him callous. If there were 0°
many sharp men bit, must not they have been operating?'
If they had me where the hair was short, would not they
have made me squeal ?' Well, 1 guess yes. Talk abnlit,
buying $30,000,000 of gold! Why, no one supposed Ono
there were so many wild men that were more crazy tbsi!
the man who bought it. The whole matter can be planed
in a nutshell. Mr. Belden told Mr. Speyer in his (ff;
Belden's) office, in my presence, that any orders that
might give him (Speyer) would be on Belden's acnoll%
With that I told him to buy at GO, never supposing 'lO
could raise 810,000, instead of which he took in 530,000,p0
and a great many sharp men too. It is nothing but a Dille
days' wonder. I know there are a great many sick well la
Gotham, but the world still moves."
Mr. Legraud Lockwood, for whom much sympathl
was felt, was then attacked by the interviewer. on
sidering that he had been 29 years in business, th 3,,
he had attained to the very highest rank, that hci
had weathered all the late financial cyclones, 0
tLat he had just failed under a combination of no,
fortunate circumstances, some may think that there
was a sad want of delicacy and kindly feeling in
pushing interviewer. Au interviewer has, howevo'sl.:
but one object, and he can see nothing else—a On
tional statement for his paper. We may here saY to
the liabilities are rumoured to be $6,000,000,
Mr. Lockwood's mansion and grounds at Norvlsitb;
which cost $BOO,OOO, together with all his and
private property of Mr. J. H. Benedict and that :113s°
partners, have been placed in the hands of ,„
assignee, Mr. John Acker, for the benefit of 4
creditors. Mr. Lockwood said he had no stateme',
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to make, the accounts not being yet cleared UP• to
position was peculiar, but his creditors and ,he
public were very kind, and the desire was thatfribe
house should resume business on an early day
interviewer was much impressed with Mr. Le_of
wood's genial, pleasant manner, but there is a sPicei,
sarcasm in his last remark, " You are perfectly wing
come, sir, to the information" he replied, add' of
pleasantly " but you have not got much !" o°Bo,
several efforts to interview the house of Sifter
Gold, Marten, and Co., was successful, but only fried
a surly rebuke. Mr. Smith was employed on .rt
oysters. Mr. Marten was flitting about in his
sleeves, and Mr. Bach, the junior partner, was ao
miring sketches he had drawn and pasted up
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his desk. The "Brains," as the interviewer te1:0,
Mr. Smith, seems to have had the best occuPtitbe
which he does not appear to have shared with
toe
reporter. He is represented as paying away eheq of
and doing all in his power to get to the bottosuould
the contracts (and the oysters), which he c a()
not then see, and he complained that srh
oo
he was doing this others were backing out the
all sides. Mr. Henry Clews, at the bead 0'
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great banking house of Henry Clews and Co. 0-" sis
also interviewed. He took a cheerful view of the CI he
tion. The greater proportion of railway 5 took
,tieo/
said, had b een lodged in blocks among certain Par
and had been so watered that the astounded P: cos
wondered when the inflation would cease. . tiose
the bubble burst and the stocks fell ; and the tthe
the
had arrived for genuine investors through(); vets
country to buy. His orders given by such hauatteso
received from all parts of the Union, and illbeing
would soon adjust themselves, the stoeks.a over
scattered in good hands, and the money Pal fid
to those obliged by circumstances to sell au.ieca..
price. The panic grew out of the wild geld
lation, and was not like those of former years, ";04
by a drain of specie, hence the banks have a th 6
stood the crisis with remarkable firmness ; an or
fact that they are not now exposed to thelrreopy
rency flowing abroad is a compensating ct.treet
stance for having such a currency. e
_co'
has suffered in reputation through villainousfP'of
who are unworthy to be known as members °..0 the
Board, and of which the gold gamblers sinter'
worst." Commodore Vanderbilt gave thel who
viewer very little information. When asis'd itieseot
the clique were, he replied, a combination a Tsao
who got up the panic to fill their pockets.
cird car-
smoking his cigar while waiting for his sPlell,tosoUr.
riage and horses, and in a horribly bad P....j0g 1,1!
He neither knew what the object was in rune',bY'
gold, nor whether the clique had made m°l3,l•Te
nor did he know who the leading men sy'we'se
pectilatorsr
of the
blame. the Government or the s
blame. Finally, he shut up the intervievre to et
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World by telling him that he had nothing.lc
and he would get nothing out of him. :0,3 ,
Stewart was among the " interviewed,
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reported to have said, the interviewer guar'oo
these as his words, " I disapproved of the Poo pro:
selling gold and purchasing bonds with ,e3(10,,',
ceeds, believing, as I do, that it will never
i'ltoeii.;
as it is probably meant to lead us, to specie Ilesalt to
Such a policy would not lead us to such a
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ten years—no, nor in a hundred. The ssr cans
of bonds with gold gives the speculators. I'oooo
carry on their operations. This policy no toes!,
tionably of great benefit to those whosly °po
haveof their own. While solvent men will en.tiivOse fed
pose this policy, it will be approved 139.,t_,A 01,0
are shaky." Assistant Treasurer Batterlie.', toot,
that it was the sale of Government gold that 4vr
fallett rae
down the market, the premium having o
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a quarter of an hour before he received
evist of tP
to sell, but the question is, who first
order to sell ?
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FITZWILLIAM —On the 18th inst., at Itilten, re fj
the lion. Mrs. Fitzwilliam, of a daughter' b, tse
ToRREss7On the 10th inst., at Sundridgn

of Captain A. Torrens, of a son.
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HARRIS—POTTER—On IS POTTER —On the 16th itiSt , at St. 3.°1111„6toll,
Holloway, William John Barris, of Bleutd"
Fauny Potter, of Gorriugo Park, Mitcham.
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therine Budd, aged 91. • Too,
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VERNON—On the 19th inst., at Bussholine,
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