The Sun.
London, England, 1860-11-24 00:00:00

the Game Laws and game-preserving; and, by de-
grees a public opinion may be created which will
abate the nuisance, and ultimately abolish the
odious game laws themselves—utterly unworthy as
they are of a free country. We would strongly
urge on the corporation to let the small game alone
and attack the greater, if at least they would stand
well with the English public. Let them insist on
doing away with the temptation, and they will no
longer need to tax their fellow-burghers for the
preservation of the adjacent landlord's pheasants.
We shall, of course, be told that we are poachers'
friends, and would recklessly deprive the gentle-
men of England of their most manly sport. We
reply, we speak of the poacher only as what he
is—the creature of artificial laws ; a man whom
the law does not brand as a thief—a man who is
not what he ought to be, because landlords do
what they ought not to do. And furthermore,
we deny that the sport which creates poachers is
manly sport. Hunting is manly—coursing is
manly—walking the fields with a pointer is manly
—but indolent waiting by a preserve till
attendants drive the fluttered game up to
the muzzles of our fowling-pieces is not
manly. It is a burlesque of sport. A sickly,
half effeminate substitute for the more vigorous
exertions which belong to real sport. The truth is,
for sport worthy of the name, a single gamekeeper
would suffice for a very large estate. We can
testify from actual knowledge of one such, in which
the farmers and the labourers are the landlord's
gamekeepers. The former he conciliates by allow-
ing them to course the hares and destroy the rabbits;
the latter by a tittle cheap and judicious kindness.
The consequence is that he never wants sport, and
that the men who, if he watched and harassed
them, would set their foot—accidentally, of course
—into a nest, now take every possible care
not to disturb it. It is in this spirit that game
ought to be preserved in a country like this. Pro-
perty, game is not. As property; game will never
by any class be respected like that which has a
definite owner; but as a source of amusement, and
protected by the geuial methods which would con-
ciliate those who would otherwise destroy it, game
may abound to the full extent to which it is
wanted. It is really high time for the country to
speak out on this subject, and as the Derby magi-
strates are so zealous against poachers, they should
be the first to move against those who create them.

MB. LINDSAY AND TILE NEW YOLK

CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

The New York Journal of Commerce reports the
following :

The regular meeting of the Chamber of Com-
merce was held on Thursday, November 1, at their
building. The attendance of members was not
large, there being about twenty-one members pre-
sent. Mr. George Opdyke, chairman of the Exe-
cutive Committee, made a report of the conference
with Mr. W. S. Lindsay on the 10th of October,
according to the appointment made at a special
meeting on the 9th, and which report contained
the following conclusions :--

"1. Liabilities of Shipowners.—The Executive Com-
mittee agree with Mr. Lindsay that an international ar-
rangement should be made, providing for the application
of the existing laws of Great Britain and the United States,
on the subject of collisions, in the courts of both countries.
This is to say, the liability of the shipowners of both
countries should be uniformly the same, and actions
agAinst them in the courts of either country should
be governed by the laws of their own. The committee,
however, consider the valuation proposed by Mr. Lindsay
of £l5 for ships and steamers (freight included) as too high.
They believe that £lO per ton would be sufficient for the
former, and £l5 per ton for tha latter. But in any law that
may be enacted the committee think the actual value of the
defaulting vessel should be established, and determine the
liability. The committee also agree that to provide against
collisions at sea it is advisable that the same rule of the
road be adopted by both countries.
" 2. Crime at Sea—The committee agree with Mr. Lind-
say in regard to the assimilation of the laws in reference to
crimes committed at sea ; and that the Consuls of both
countries should have jurisdiction over all petty crimes and
offences committed on board the vessels of either, whether in
port or at sea ; and that deserters from the vessels of either
country should be promptly dealt with according to the laws
of the country to which they belong.
" 3. Lights at Sea—The committee also agree with Mr.
Lindsay in his recommendation that the ships of this coun-
try be required to carry lights similar to those required by
the British law.

(REUTER'S TELEGRAMS.)

in Rome.

" 4. Shipping Offices—The committee join in the recom-
mendation that shipping offices be established in the princi-
pal ports of the United States for the purpose of engaging
and discharging crews of American ships ; and that the
privilege of shipping the men at these offices be extended
to British shipowners, provided similar rights are extended
to American shipowners in British ports.
" 5. Registration of Ships—The committee admit the
propriety of debate in the Chamber on Mr. Lindsay's pro-
position that foreign ships should have the right of regis-
tration in the United States, as the ships of other nations
have in Great Britain.

"6. Coasting Trade—The committee see no objection to
discussing in the Chamber the propriety of throwing open
to British shipping the coasting trade between tho Atlantic
and Pacific ports, it being understood that Great Britain
would reciprocate by abolishing ' light dues," passing tolls,'
local charges,' compulsory pilotage,' colonial coasting,
and intercolonial trade,' and the coasting trade of the Ame-
rican lakes."

On motion, the report was accepted, and Mr.
OPDYKE then moved the adoption of the following
resolution :

has just arrived.

" Resolved,—That so much of the report of the Execu-
tive Committee on proposed changes in the maritime law
as relates to the liabilities of shipowiers, crime at sea, lights
at sea, and shipping offices, be referred to a select commit-
tee, with instructions to prepare and submit to the Cham-
ber a memorial to. Government in accordance with the re-
commendations of said report ; and that so much thereof as
relates to the registration of ships and to the coasting trade
be referred to another select committee, with instructions
to investigate the merits of these propositions, and report
thereon at the next regular meeting of the Chamber."
The resolution was adopted.

A painful and most affecting illustration of the

impediments lying thickly strewn in the path of a
truly good and brave and able man striving, heart
and soul, to win his way to distinction in the British
army has, within the last few years, been broug'at
more and more vividly to light by Sir HENRY
HAVELOCK'S now numerous biographers. Reading
the history of the life and fortunes—rather it should
le said the life .and misfortunes—of that noble and
dauntless character, one marvels at the cruelty and
folly which, far more than his death-march upon

Their Serene Highnesses the Prince Louis and
Prince Henry of Hesse Darmstadt have arrived at Mau-
rigy's Hotel from Paris.

-The Duchess of Manchester was safely delivered
of a son yesterday afternoon at her residence) in Great
Stanhope-street.

created.

The Marquis and Marchioness St. Jose and
Baron von Gersloof have left the Brunswick Hotel for

Paris.

The. Countass of Durham was safely delivered of
a son yesterday at Chesterfield House. Her ladyship and
the infant are progressing favourably.
The. Earl and Countess of Mounteharles have
arrived at their residence, Rutland-gate, from Windsor.

Lucknow, brought HAVELOCK to the grave so
prematurely. It is distressing to the last degree
to remark, now that it is all too late in his

The Countess of Kinnoull is expected at her new
residence at Rutland-gate early next week, from Scotland.

FRANCE.

The Earl of Eglinton has bought a residence in
Upper Belgrave-street, late the residence of Lady Charles
Wellesley.

Lady Frederick Fitzroy was safely delivered 01
a son yesterday, at her residence in Grosvenor-street.

Viscount. Palmerston, Earl Granville, the Duke

of Somerset, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Sir George
Grey, Lord Stanley of Alderley, the Earl of Chichester,

and Viscount Castlerosse, after attending the Queen's Privy
Council, yesterday afternoon, travelled from Windsor to
Paddington by a special train on the Great Western Rail way.
Field-Marshal Viscount and Viscountess Com-
bermere have arrived at Bath, from Leamington, for the
winter.

RAILWAYS.

THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, NOVEMBER 24, 1860.

THE WAR IN CHINA.

FOREIGN-OFFICE, Nov. 24.

ROME, Nov. 24.

PARIS, SATURDAY MORNING.

NAPLES, Nov, 23.

LA 'IEBI E \Vb.

A telegram, very imperfectly transmitted, was
received last night from Suez, through Alexan-
dria and Malta, which states, on the authority of
the China mail of October 1, that hostilities had
commenced in the North, that two skirmishes
had been fought with the Tartar cavalry, who
had been repulsed, that the allied army was wait-
ing in a hostile position before Pekin, and that
negotiations had been opened by the Chinese, but
not in a supplicatory manner.

At the request of the King the whole diplomatic
corps have quitted Gaeta. They arrived yesterday

The Pontifical Nuncio and the Ambassadors of
Austria, Prussia, and Russia have received the
Grand Cordon of the Order of St. Januarius from
the King.

The Moniteur contains the appointment of Count
Walewski as Minister of State in place of M.
Fould, whose resignation has been accepted.
An Imperial decree confers upon M. Vuitry the
rank of Commander of the Legion of Honour.

The following modifications have been made in
the Council of Lieutenancy ;—Vintimiglia, Direc-
tor of the Customs; Dofftitto, Director of the
Interior ; and Silvio Spoventa, of the Police.
King Victor Emmanuel will take his departure
for Sicily immediately after having received the
deputation from the Sardinian Parliament.

MARSEILLES, Nov. 23.
The overdue mail steamer from Constantinople

CONSTANTINOPE, Nov. 14.

The Levant Herald states that the foreign re-
presentatives are about to submit a scheme of
provincial and financial reforms to the Porte, and
will at the same time conjointly urge its adoption.
Great anxiety is still felt by the Porte as to the
French loan.

A difficulty has arisen on the question of ac-
cepting the tenders and terms.
Stamps and a new tax on farm cattle have been

The Galata money market is depressed, and
Government Securities have fallen considerably.

It is said that Ismail Pasha, of the Danubian
provinces, is to complete the late mission of the
Grand Vizier.

News from Syria is to the 4th inst. Ismail
Pasha (Kmety) had resigned his command,

BOURSE,' November 28.—The market has shown
but little animation, but the quotations of yester-
day have been well maintained. For the Account,
Threes are now at 70f 15c; Mobilier, 767 f 50c;
Orleans, 1,387 f 50c; Northern, 987 f 50c; Mediterra-
nean, 910 f; Austrian, 515 f; Lombard, 488 f 75c.
The following are the last quotations :-
4rper per Cents ... 96 I Credit Foncier 9lB 75
Do end month.... —1 Belgian 41 —
3 per Cents
Do. end month 7O 15' Roman
Bank Shares 2925 Austrian
Credit Mobilier.... 766 25, Spanish Threes 491
Do. Account 766 25 Home Debt