The Sun.
London, England, 1860-03-16 00:00:00

bankruptcy in our jurisdiction had become a scandal to the
nation. No judge, scarcely any lawyer, could tell what the
law was, or, such was the infinite variety of acts upon this
subject, where to look. 'With reference to the application
of the new law in the country districts, some defects in the
bill might be remedied in committee. It seemed to him
that the bankruptcy laws should not be subject to commis-
sioners sitting at Liverpool, Leeds, and Bristol; and this
was a part of the measure to which the attention of the
house should be directed. He believed, too, the county
court judges were not the persons to have this jurisdiction
committed to their care. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. MALtNS congratulated the house and the country
that at length they were likely to have a rational system of
bankruptcy, and he rejoiced that the distinction which ex-
isted between non-traders and traders would be abolished,
for the distinction was most anomalous and unreasonable.
He had long since urged upon the house that this distinc-
tion should be no longer allowed to exist. He was glad to
find that the bill would sweep away all classes of certificates,
for at present the commissioners took wholly different views
of very similar cases. The true policy was that a man
should, after ceding the whole of his property for the benefit
of his creditors, be allowed the opportunity of paying his
debts, and should have the capacity of trading restored to
him. (Hear.) He would give his cordial assistance in
making this bill a complete measure, and he hoped the Go-
vernment would give every opportunity to his hon. and
learned friend in order that it might be passed this session.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL, in reply, said that he
was much indebted to the house for the very kind manner
in which they had received this bill. In so great and in-
tricate and difficult a subject, he was perfectly conscious
there were a number of provisions which, in point of ex-
pression, in matter of fact, and in congruity, might receive
considerable improvement, but he could assure the house he
should receive all suggestions with a most grateful mind.
He trusted they would not object to the second reading of
the bill being taken that day fortnight, seeing that it was a
measure upon which 'such discussion must arise on its de-
tails in committee.

The bill was then read a first time, and ordered to be read
a second time on that day fortnight.
CUSTOMS ACTS COMMITTEE—HOPS.
The house then went into committee on the Customs Actg.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER begged to
propose an amended resolution, reducing the duty on hops
from the lot of January, 1261 (not under treaty), "That on
and after the Ist of January, 1861, in lieu of the duty of
customs now chargeable on the article undermentioned on
importation into Great Britain and Ireland, the following
duty shall be charged, viz.:--Hops, until the Ist January,
1862, the cwt., 205.: hops, on and after the lot January,
1862, the cwt., 15s.

Mr. DODSON moved, as an amendment, that it should
remain for the present an open question for the house to
deal with, whether there should be any and what duty
levied on hops from and after the Ist January, 1862. The
excise duty on hops was peculiar and oppressive to the
producer, and he wished to remind the house that this duty
and the customs duty on hops were inseparably connected,
and that they must stand or fall together. The excise duty
was peculiar, because the consumption of hops was strictly
limited to the extent of the malt duty • but owing to the
uncertain nature of the crop the amount of hops produced
was uncontrollable. The only element under control was
the extension or reduction of the acreage ; but even that
was most inefficient. In 1842, 46,000 acres yielded live times
as large a crop as 54,000 acres in 1854. The result was that
by no fault or improvidence on the part of the producer
more hops were produced than were required for the con-
sumption of the year, and as the excise duty was levied,
not on the manufactured article, not on the hops which
found their way into the brewer's vat, but on the raw
material at the source of supply, the producer had to pay
out of his own pocket a duty on the quantity in excess.
He contended that this was contrary to all the doctrines of
political economy. His moderate proposition was that the
right hon. gentleman should take the duty for one year
only, leaving it to a future session—and probably a future
Parliament—to determine in 1861 whether any or what
duties should be levied on hops; and he hoped that by
economy and retrenchment, together with the increased re-
ceipts from other sources of income, they would be enabled
to dispense with this impost at the end of the year.
Sir B. BRIDGES seconded the amendment.
Lord HOLMESDALE, who addressed the house for the
first time, urged that excessive hardship was inflicted on
the hop farmer by this unjust and vexatious tax, and that
the loss fell upon the hop growers, not upon the hop factors.
He believed this was, except the tax on chicory, the only
duty levied on any raw unmanufactured article the produce
of the soil of this country. The amount of the tax was some-
times more than the price which the grower could obtain,
and it was a fact that in many cases lately hops had been
exported merely for the sake of obtaining the drawback of
excise allowed for exportation, and then the hops had been
thrown overboard in mid-channel.
Mr. JOHN LOCKE said that many of his own condi-
tuents were hop factors, and he could not admit that, as the
noble lord had said, they threw the whole burden of this
duty on the planters. The average cost of growing hops in
this country was £26 an acre, whilst the foreigner could
grow his hops at from £7 to £l7 an acre. He (Mr. Locke)
being a free trader, would not, however, rely upon any pro-
tectionist arguments ' • but the British and foreign producer
were unequally dealt with ; for whilst the former, as soon as
the hops were picked and pocketed, was obliged to pay the
duty, the foreigner could choose his own time and send
his hops to be bonded in this country, until the market rose
for them, and then, by paying the duty, he could let them
loose against the English grown hops, which enjoyed no
such facilities. No doubt this was free trade, but his con'
stituents did not like it. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. DEEDES, on the part of the hop-growing district
with which he was connected, begged to say that they were
ready and willing to stand the test of perfect and entire free
trade—(cheers)—they would stand or fall by it whatever
might be the result ; but he must say it was strange to sees
Government, which avowed itself a free trade Government,
refuse to entertain a proposition so much in accordansewith
their general professions. (Hear, hear.)
Lord PEVXNSEY expressed his entire astonishment at
the course which the right hon. gentleman the Chancellor
of the Exchequer meant to pursue. He could not conceive
how the committee could refilse their sanction to the prin.'
ciple which they had ratified over and over again. (Hoare
hear.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER assured
the hon. gentleman who proposed the amendment, as well
as the .bole lord who supported it, that it was a great mis-
t' to suppose the hop dutywas maintained because Chan-
cellors of the Exchequer found it convenient to themselves.
On the contrary, he did not hesitate to say that if the mea-
sure of the matter were to be the comfort of the Chancellor
of the Exchequer, this duty was the dearest money that
came into his pocket. (Hear, hear.) There was no reason
why the hop duty should be a terminable duty. The same
argument would apply to marine and fire insurances. He
objected, however, to Parliament in 1860 dealing with the
finances of the country which were applicable to the year
1862. The Government, must, however, oppose the motion
of the lion. member, as they had no desire to embarrass
themselves in reference to the financial branch of this ques-
tion, as they thought the proposal an unsound one. The
Government had shown every disposition to deal with the
details of this question in a manner calculated to meet the
wants of gentlemen opposite by a reduction of the duty
some 30 per cent., at a loss to the revenue of £lOO,OOO
a-year.
Tho committee, after a few words in vindication of this
course, divided, and there appeared—
For the resolution
Against it
Majority
—at
The amendment was consequently lost.
The CHAIRMAN reported the resolution, and the home
resumed.
Several members having appealed is vain to the Chan-
cellor to adjourn the consideration of the malt duty,
Mr. LYGON moved the adjournment of the debate.
The house then divided, and there appeared—
For the adjournment
Against it
Majority
ENCLOSURE BILL.

This bill was read a second time.
PROBATE AND ADMINISTRATION BILL.
This bill was further considered on the Lords' amend•
went.
ADULTERATION OF FOOD AND DRINK BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
CONSOLIDATED FUND BILL.
This bill was read a third time and passed.
MARINE MUTINY BILL.
This bill was read a second time.
The house then adjourned at twelve o'clock.

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BIRTHS.
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MARRIAGES.
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