The Sun.
London, England, 1860-08-08 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.' THE IVALTVOTii MURDERS.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(THIs DAY.)
The SP]IAKER took the chair at a quarter past twelve
o'clock.

CHURCH RATES.

Mr. HUBBARD gave notice that early next session ire
would bring in a bill to amend the law relating to churth-

rates.

UNION OF BENEFICES BILL,
Cn the motion for going into committee on this bill,
Mr. D. GRIFFITH complained of the manner in which
public business was conducted. The present bill was
brought down ready made from the House of Lords at a
period of the session when it could not pass without a dis
cussion. The fact of the bill being brought before the
House of Commons at that period of the session, and so
early in the day, when they could scarcely muster a sufficient
number of members to make a house, rendered it impossible
that the measure could receive the necessary discussion.
This was not properly legislating on a measure of such im-
portance._____

Mr. HENLEY said that in this bill the bishop, the
clergy, and the patrons were well cared for. Me objected
to that part of the bill which related to the removal of
the dead, and he certainly would divide the house on that
point.
The house then went into committee on the bill.
Mr. GRIFFITH said there was no one on the Ministe-
rial bench who was responsible for the bill, and he would
move that the chairman report progress.
Mr. B OTJVERIE said that the bill had undergone much
discussion in the Upper House. It was in his charge, and
he brought it on as early as was in his power.

Mr. JOHN LOCKS considered thaethe members of tho
City of London ought to have had charge of the bill. It
certainly had nothing to do with Kilmarnock. (Hear,
hear.) The Bishop of London had opposed the demolition
of churches in the City for the purpose of making London-
bridge. He was not of opinion that London was destitute
of churches; but if they placed clergymen in them who
could not preach, of course congregation* would not be at-
tracted.

evening.

Mr.CRAWFORD, as one of the members of the City of
London, said he thought it would not be courteous to the
hon. member for Kilmarnock to take the bill out of his
hands, simply because he represented• one of the five cities
affected by the bill. The measure was introduced into the
other house by the Bishop of London, and its provisions
were well known.

Mr. AYRTON supported the bill, and said that the pre-
sent state of things was most objectionable. The only
question was as to the mode in which a remedy should be
applied, and he hoped the house would be rational enough
to prefer the interests of Le souls of the living to the bones
of the dead. Let the bones of the dead be treated with
respect, as no doubt they would be under the provisions of
the bill, but he trusted it would not be said that when the
making of a dock or railway was concerned, it was
quite easy to have churches and the bones in church-
yards removed. There was no difficulty experienced, but•
when the interests of religion were involved it was another
ease altogether. He hoped that, although the bill might
be amended in passing through committee, its main object
would receive the support of the house. (Wear, hear.)
Mr. Alderman CUBITT said it could not be denied that
several churches would require to be removed, and in one
place there were about fifty-eight churches in an area of
about half a square m He considered it was obvious
that same remedy was fequired for the existing evils, and
he thought all the details might be arranged without diffi-
culty.
Mr. HUBBARD said that he did not think the house
were sufficiently acquainted with the principle of the bill.
Wei() the house aware of the manner in which the bill was
read a second time ? At a quarter to one o'clock in the
morning an hon. gentleman was asleep at the end of one of
the benches. He was roused by a touch of the elbow and
the words, " Union of Benefices Bill." He then jumped up
and all he (Mr. Mibbard) heard was the word " Monday,
and he discovered that the bill had actually passed a second
reading. (Laughter.) Under these circumstances he con-
sidered that the, bill required at least a little more illustra-
tion. Against the bill of 1854 there was a very general
feeling outside the house, and why, he would ask, should
a bill conferring equally large powers be introduced ? Why
should not the arrangements of a certain group, which re-
quired amendation, be made the subject of a specific pro-
position ?
Mr. BOUVERIE said that this bill hal been on the
table of the house six weeks, and no objection was made to
its principles. The fact was, that the present state of things
required great improvement, as it presented a very ano-
malous condition. In some parishes with a population of
50,000 or 60,000 there were 50 or 60 churches, while other
parishes were without any adequate provision. In other
places there were no congregations, owing to the ground
being occupied with warehouses.

After some discussion it was 'agreed by the hon. member
in charge of the bill that its operation should be limited to
the metropolis.
The amendment was negatived without a division.
Clause 1 Was agreed to.
On clause 2,

Mr. MALINS said that he did not consider the house
possessed the necessary materials for legislating on this
subject at present, and concluded by moving that the chair-
man leave the chair.

After some remarks from Mr. Ayrton, Mr. Crauford, Mr.
Henley, Sir G. Lewis, and other non. members, the house
divided.

For the amendment l6
Against 76
Majority.
The clause was then agreed to, with some alteration, as
were clauses 3 to 6 inclusive.
On clause 7,

Mr. HADFIELD wished to be informed what was
meant by the words "spiritual destitution" in the bill.
Was it merely to be understood as meaning Church desti-
tution, ignoring altogether the spiritual iusttaction sup-
plied by the Nonconformist body.
[LEFT SITTING.]

COURSE OF EXCHANGE.-YESTERDA.T.

Amsterdam
Ditto
Rotterdam • 11 161
Antwerp
Brussels
Haraturgh
Paris

11 141
11 17
11 17
25 35
25 35
13 6
25 15

Ditto
Marseilles — 25 35

25 371
25 40

Frankfort on Maine
Vienna
Trieste

1171-
12 90
12 97

117 k
13 0
13 0

Petersburgh
Berlin

Madrid
Cadiz

491
49,1
30 30
25 371
25 37f
39

30 37}
25 42t
25 421
391

Leghorn
Milan
Genoa • • •
Naples
Messina
Lisbon
Oporto
Rio Janeiro
New York • • • •
Foreign Gold in Bars (Standard), ...per oz. L 3 17 9
Mexican Dollars
Silver in Bars (Standard) 7) 0 0 0
South American Doublons

53 531
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A portion of the following appeared in our impression of
Yesterday :
The second examination of William Godfrey Youngman,
the person accused of the murder of four persons, at 16,
Manor-place, Walworth, the details of which the public
are so painfully acquainted with, took place this morning
at the Lambeth Police-court, before Mr. Elliot.
The court was crowded to suffocation, not the least pre-
caution seeming to have been made by the police to keep
even the passages in the justice-room clear, and the seats
at the table usually appropriated to solicitors (and reporters
on special occasions) were filled by persons who had
obtained orders of admission merely to gratify a morbid
curiosity.

The prisoner, who is in custody of Mr. Inspector
Whicher, walked into the dock with a firm step, and with-
out betraying the least concern.
The first witness called was
John Mathew Youngman, of No. 2, Francis-street,
Newington Butts. He said the prisoner was his•brother.
The last time he saw his mother alive was at 16, Manor-
place, on the Monday previous to the discovery of the
murder.

John Youngman, the prisoner's father, then gave his
evidence, which was merely a recapitulation of the evidence
he gave at the coroner's inquest.
. _

Prisoner—Did you not make some observations to
mother that made her cry on the evening previous to the
murder ?

Witness—No, nothing. I did not see your mother that

Prisoner—What, not about dripping ?
Witness—Well now you bring that to my mind, I recol-
lect I did see your mother thatevening, and I did say some-
thing to her on that subject. The agitated state of my
mind had entirely driven away all recollection of anything."
I recollect seeing her, and she brought me a hat and asked
me to try it on. She said, " Tom has been to get &my:l
dripping, and the cook has given him a hat." I did try it
on, but it was too small for me. More than that, i said
Thomas should not go backwards and forwards to get the
dripping for any one any more, as there was more trouble
than enough. The boy had put the dripping into the hat
and spoilt it.

Prisoner—Are you sure you had no other words ?
Witness—lf you can being anything to my recollection I
am here to speak the truth, I will answer the•,n,
Prisoner—Did you not have words with ;ter in the after-
noon.

Witness—Yes. I went to my son John's, and had my
dinner. They were not angry woreas. The reason I did
so was that it was not ready at horlie, and I would not wait.
While I was at home a person came to put a lock on your
box.

Prisoner—Did you give nrather any money that day?
Witness--No. I had none to give her.
Prisoner—Did you give her any the day before ?
Witness—No, but John gave her 2s. Money ran short
with me that Saturdry night. It was 2s. I've got is. 6d.
of it now. It WaLi found teed up in her pocket. I don't
know who tied the pocket up.
Prisoner—l've nothing else to ask you.
Mrs. Beard next gave her evidence, which has already
appeared in The Sun.
The prisoner did not put any questions to this witness.
Mr. Bevan, the landlord of the house, was next called.
He said the only addition he wished to add to the evidence
already give's was, that the prisoner said in his hearing
that his mo:.lter had committed the murders, and that he
(prisoner) had killed her in self-defence.
The prisoner he: e complained of the non-attendance of his
solicitor, Mr. Neale, whom he had seen in prison, and who
promised to be in attendance.
It was here intimated that a gentleman was in attend-
ance from Mr. Neale's office.
Inspector Dunn here recapitulated his evidence with re-
spect to finding the policy of assuran-3, and the letters of
the prisoner to the deceased Mary Wells Streeter. He pro-
duced a plan of the landing with the position of the doors
on the second floor of 16, Manor-p- -tee.
Elizabeth Wootton, a servant at Mr. Duncan's, said the
prisoner lived in that service about three months. He left
about a fortnight ago. The letter dated July 13 she be-
lieved to be in his handwriting. [This letter referred to
her fellow servant as the person who was to act as brides-
maid at the prisoner's wedding with Mary Wells Streeter.]
The other letters produced she also believed to be written
by the prisoner, as she had seen him write, and he had told
her he was writing to Mazy Wells Streeter. She had heard
him talk about insuring her life.
The letters produced at the inquest were then read by the
clerk.

Mr. Tanner, clerk in the Argus Life Assurance office,
next gave his evidence.

This has also been published.
Samuel Wells Streeter, the father of the deceased, • was
asked if he had anything to add to his former evidence,
and he replied that he had not.
Mr. Edward Spice, landlord of the Green Dragon public-
house, Bermondsey-street, said—l am on reiendly terms with
the Streeters. On 23d July Mary with the prisoner came to
see me. They left about eleven o'clock. They came again on
the 25th, and I then asked the prisoner what his intentions
were with respect to the girl. He said he was independent
and would marry her. I said, "You must have a good lot
of money t ) provide for suchagirlas Mary Streeter. He said
after marriage they intended to live at Hastings. I after-
wards said to the girl Mary, " Does your father know of this
marriage. I don't like the look of the young man at all."
I afterwards told him so. I said I was afraid he meant her
no good. I then asked Mary Streeter to go into the bar-
parlour and have nothing more to do with him. I told her
I would see her safe home again. I next saw the pri-
soner in the parlour. I said to him, "I don't like the look
of you, and I would rather see the girl take a rope and
hang herself than marry such a fellow as you." The
pri-
soner made no remark, but shortly, afterwards left my
house.

Superintendent Penn, P division of Police, said—l went
to Manor •pls.ce on the day following the murder. I
took possession of a small black box, which was
pointed out to me by the prisoner's father. I saw
it opened at the station-house by Inspector Dunn,
and the policy was lying at the top. He told me
his mother had committed the murders. I asked him about
the knife, and he said it was his, and that he had had it in
possession but a short time, and that he used it to cut his
bread and cheese with.

Mr. Boddy, the surgeon whose evidence was next re-
quired, not having arrived,
The depositions were then read over to the witnesses,
and they were severally bound over to appear at the Cen-
tral Criminal Court and give evidence against the prisoner
on four indictments, charging him with wilful murder.
On the arrival c•f the witness, Dr. Boddy, he imme
diately took his place in the witness-box and proceeded to
repeat• the evidence as to the wounds given at the inquest
on the bodies of the deceased persons,which was very fully
reported in The Sun of last evening.
The prisoner listened with great attention, but with per-
fect calmness to the surgeon's narrative of the various
injuries the murdered persons had sustained.
The Magistrate then cautioned the prisoner in the usual
way! - _ -

the prisoner said—l am not guilty of any of the charges
against me, excepting killing my mother in self-defence.
That is all I have to say.
The magistrate then committed him for trial at the next
Cessions for the Central Criminal Court, but as Inspector
Whither, who has charge of the case, will not be
able to get up the evidence in a complete foam for
the sessions which commence on Monday next, an appl'ca-
tion will be made for the postponement of the trial until
September. The application will, of course, be granted.
The prisoner was conveyed to Horsemonger-lane Gaol.
He was loudly hissed on being placed in the van.

During the examination at the police court a young
woman sat at the solicitors' table, and frequently sobbed 1
aloud, especially while the letters were read which the pri-
soner Youngman had addressed to Mary Wells Streeter,
and which were found in her writing-desk by her father
after her melancholy death. The young woman, on being
questioned as to the cause of her grief, stated that the
letters were identical in expression with those which the
prisoner had addressed to herself many months ago, when
he courted her in Staffordshire. Some of these letters she
showed to the persons sitting near her, and they were in
many cases word for word the same as those before the
court. In these letters Youngman, who at that time passed
under the name of Godfrey, made violent protestations of
love to the young woman, who held a situation in the family
of a gentleman in Staffordshire, and, as in the case of Mary
Wells Streeter, implored her to allow him to assure her
life. He told her also, as he more recently told the unfor-
tunate Mary Wells Streeter, that he was possessed of inde-
pendent property, and that he should have plenty of money
after his marriage, but that meanwhile the young woman
must provide as much as she possibly could to meet the
expenses of the wedding day. Curiously also he had made
arrangements for the wedding to be celebrated in the parish
church of St. Martin-in-the-Fields, in which the banns
between him and Mary Wells Streeter were read for the
last time on the Sunday immediately preceding the murder.
While these negotiations were going on, and after obtain-
ing the young woman's consent to accompany him to Aus-
tralia, he committed a burglary, and was sentenced to 12
months' imprisonment. It appears that he pledged his
coat to buy the wedding ring, which he left in the charge
of the young woman, and she when Youngman was arrested
pledged the ring and bought him flannel jackets to wear in
prison. He managed to communicate with her and to ob-
tain from her a promise that she would marry him at the
expiration of the term of imprisonment, but before he was
liberated she left the place she was in and came to London,
and he never saw her again until yesterday morning,
when, by the permission of the police authorities, she
was admitted to his room upon the condition that they
wero not to shake hands or to communicate with
each other in any way except in the presence of
the police. The prisoner appeared to be astounded
when the young woman entered the room ; hi placed both
hands before his face, turned away from her, and could not
be induced to say a word. She sat below him in the police
court nearly the whole of the day, but he never looked to..
wards her, keeping his eyes steadily fixed upon the wit-
nesses as one after another appeared in the box.

The young woman also states that when the prisoner was
introduced to her father agi her future husband, ho made
very strong objections, observing that he did not believe
that ho was a man of independent property, and that he did
not at all like the look of him. He strongly advised his
daughter to break off the match, but she fancied that her
father was unreasonably prejudiced, and the correspon-
dence between them went on until Youngman was con-
victed of the burglary for which he suffered 12 months' in-
carceration.

The funeral of the unfortunate Mrs. Youngman and her
two sons, Charles and Thomas, took place this morning
the Woking Cemetery. The bodies were removed lass
night from the Newington Workhouse privately, and the
only persons in attendance, as mourners, were the husband
of the deceased and her son John.

It has transpired that insanity will be proved at the trial
of more than one member of the family on the mother's
side.

THE INSWRRECTION IN

The following is the text, as published in the
Ilioniteur, of the first protocol of the conference
held at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs on 3d
August

"His Imperial Majesty the Sultan wishing to
arreit, by prompt aid an d efficacious measures, the
effusion of blood in Syria, and to show his firm
resolutions to assure order and peace among the
populations under his sovereignty; and their Ma-
jesties the Emperor of the French, the Emperor of
Austria, and the Queen of the United Kingdom of
Great Britain and Ireland, his Royal Highness
the Prince Regent of Prussia, and his Majesty the
Emperor of all. the Russias, having offered their
active co-operation, which his Majesty the Sultan
has accepted, the representatives of their said
Majesties and of his Royal Highness have agreed
to the following articles
Art. 1. A corps of European troops, which
may be :raised to twelve thwasand men, shall be
despatched to Syria to contribute to the re-esta-
blishment of tranquillity.
" ' Art. 2. His MajeF,ty the Emperor of the
French consents to sup ply immediately one-half
of that body of troops,. Should it become neces-
sary to raise the effective to the number stipulated
in the preceding a',t.ticle, the High Powers would
without delay come to an understanding by the
usual diplomatic channels, to decide which of them
should supply f.he troops required.
" Art. 3. "The commandant-in-chief of the ex-
pedition on arriving, enter into communica-
tion with the extraordinary commissioner of the
Porte, in circler to combine all the measures required
by the carcumstnnces, and to take up such positions
As it may be necessary to occupy for the purpose of
aacomplishinc, the object of the present act.
" ' Art. 4. accomplishing
Majesties the Emperor of the
French, the Emperor of Austria, the Queen of the
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, his
Royal Highness the Prince Regent of Prussia, and
his Majesty the Emperor of all the Russias, engage
to maintain a naval force sufficient to contribute to
the success of the common efforts for the re-estab-
lishment of tranquillity on the coast of Syria.
" Art. 5. The High Contracting Parties, being
convinced that such a period will suffice to attain.
the end of pacification which they have in view, fix
at six months the duration of the oempation.of the
European troops in Syria.
" ' Art. 6. The Sublime Porte engages to facili-
tate to the utmost of its power the supply of pro-
visions and stores for the expeditionary corps.'
" It is understood that the six preceding articles
are to be textually converted into a convention,
which shall receive the signatures of the represen-
tatives undersigned as soon as they have the full.
powers of thetr Sovereigns to that effeet ; but that
the stipulations of this protocol shall take effect
immediately.
"The Prussian Charge d'Affaires, however, has
observed that the actual distribution of the Prussian
vessels of war may not permit his Government to
co-operate at present in the execution of Art. 4.

" Given at Paris, this 3d day of August, 1860, in.
six copies. .

"THOTPIENEL,
" COWLEY,
" KISSELEFF,

" METTERNICH,
" REUSS,
"AIIMET VEVYK."

The second Protocol of the conference, held at the
Ministry of Foreign Affairs on the above-men-
tioned date, runs thus :

" The plenipotentiaries of France, Austria,
Great Britain, Prussia, and Russia, wishing, in
conformity with the intentions of their respective
Courts, to make known the real character of the
assistance afforded to the Sublime Porte, according
to the terms of the protocol this day signed, as well
as the sentiments which dictated to them the clauses
of this act and their perfect disinterestedness, de-
clare, in the most formal manner, that the contract-
ing Powers have no intention to prosecute, and
will not prosecute, in the execution of their en-
gagements, any territorial advantage, any exclu-
sive influence, or any concession affecting the com-
merce of their subjects, and which would not be
granted to the subjects of all other nations.
" Neverthess, they cannot refrain, while re-
calling the acts emanating from his Majesty the
Sultan, of which Art. 9 of the treaty of the 9th
of March, 1856, shows the high value, to express
the importance which their respective Courts at-
tach to the fact that, in conformity with the solemn
promises of the Sublime Porte, serious administra-
tive measures should ibe adopted for ameliorating
the condition of the Christian population of all
communions throughout the Ottoman Empire.
" The plenipotentiary of Turkey takes cogni-
sance of this declaration of the representatives of
the High Powers, and undertakes to transmit it
to his Court, at the same time observing that the
Sublime Porte has exerted and will continue to
exert its efforts in realising the wish above ex-
pressed.

" Given at Paris, the 3d day of August, 1860, in
six copies.

" THOUVENEL,
" COWLEY,
" KISSELEFF,

" METTERNICH,
" REUSS,
" AHMET VEFYK."

PLAIN SPEAKING OF MR. COBDEN.

The Paris correspondent of the New York
Herald, in his account of the celebration of " Ame-
rican Independence Day" at Paris, gives us a report
of Mr. Cobden's opinion on English topics :
" Mr. Cobden and his wife and daughter were
there ; Sir Joseph 011iffe, physician to the
American as well as the English Embassy,
and the correspondent of the New York lierali
were among the few English. Among the French
was Prince Polignac. About six o'clock the
dancing ceased in order to listen to an address
from Mr. Faulkner, concluded with a reading of
the American Declaration of Independence. Mr.
Faulkner is not a fluent speaker, but everything
he said was appropriate to the occasion and in
good taste. He alluded to the assistance America
had received from France in her hour of distress in
terms of warm eulogy, and, while dwelling in.
strong language on the conduct of the British.,
made a graceful allusion to the fact of some indivi-
duals of the old country being present on that oc-
casion. At the conclusion of the reading of the
Declaration three cheers were called for, and every
hat, hand, and handkerchief was raised, while the
welkin rang with the vociferous cheers the children
of America poured forth with patriotic energy.
Some of the English were thanked by the smiles
and courtesies of the ladies for their hearty parti-
cipation in the scene. ' Oh,' said one of them in
my hearing, with visible emotion, whatever may
be said or done, there is not a child in America
that does not love with all his heart the old, old
country, the land of his fathers, the proud proge-
nitors of his race.' Pity, said kr. Cobden, in his
mild, benevolent manner, the separation had not
taken place without fighting. We are both better
as we are, only we do not think of this in time.
There was no other speaking. Mr. Cobden was,
of course, one of the lions of the evening,
and charmed all by the cordial and flattering
eulogies he passed upon the people of the United
States. Prince Polignac, by his own desire, was
introduced to him by Sir Joseph 011iffe. Mr. Cob-
den particularly expatiated upon the rapid strides
America was making in the arts, and mentioned
some beautiful specimens of sculpture he had him-
self inspected, by native artists. He said that
when America began, as she would before long,
to compete with the best European artists in
this department, many who at present were
blind to her wonderful progress would begin
to open their eyes. He instanced the Marquis
of Lansdowne. When, said he, I spoke to
the old man about the gigantic strides of the
United States, he listened benignly, but not
curiously ; but when I spoke of facts connected with
the arts, and said that the time was approaching
when their specimens would be gladly received as
imports in England, the old man pricked up his ears
and seemed struck with astonishment.' Mr. Cobden
talked much of the tedium he had to go through in.
respect of the commercial treaty between France
and England. He evidently found the French
very little in all their commercial notions, mon.
strously fond of money, but all after a penurious
fashion. Of the Emperor he spoke in terms of
unqualified praise. He thought his views large,
and his objects thoroughly honest. He did not
believe there was the slightest occasion for the
present alarm on the part of England, and that
the whole existing panic was stimulated by arti•
ficial means. The war class—always the aristo,
cratic—had, he said, a substantial interest in the
lavish war expenditure. Every additional ship
built and fitted out whetted the appetite for
more good things, and so it went on. One thing was
intolerable, and that was the volunteer system.
Either the additional £30,000,000 are sufficient for
the defence of the country or they are not, said he,
and the volunteer system is only lighting the candle
at both ends, for the Ministers' demands being sup-
plied, the people are giving him the forco their
supplies have enabled him to buy. The conse-
quence is, jobbery is more rife than evor.
.He
thought it a sad mistake permitting the Queen to
fire off the first rifle at the rifle competi:tion, and
that Prince Albert's rifle monomania was ~simply so
much Germanism under. the mask of English
patriotism."
at I

MANCHESTER TRADE REPORT.—MANI *JHESTER,
Tuesday.—The depression still continues in ft, is market. There is a daily drooping of prices, and the don sand is con-
siderably below the supply both in yarns and al at in cloths.
The export merchants are indisposed to buy, at Lticipating
still lower prices. The home trade, for the I gal, no reason,
buy only sparingly ; and generally the market i aster and
duller than lad week.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS—(YESTERDAY.)
The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack
at five o'clock.

PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The Galway Harbour Bill was read a second time.

THE CASE OF MRS. BULL.
The Earl of HARRINGTON gave notice that on Mon-
day he should move for a copy of the coroner's inquest held
upon the body of Sarah Ann Bull, whose death, it was
stated, was caused through an overdose of prussic acid ad-
ministered during excitement and intoxication by her own

son,
THE SOUTH-WESTERN RAILWAY.
The Earl of MALMESBURY again called the attention
of the house to the affairs of the South-Western Railway.
His lordship said he had been informed that the receipts of
the company had stow reached £1,600 beyond the sum men-
tioned in their first Act of Parliament, which set forth that,
on the receipts amounting to a sum named therein,
the directors should lay down a double line of
rails from Dorchester to Southampton. He hoped the
session would not be allowed to close without the Govern-
ment calling upon the railway directors to carry out one
of the provisions of an act of Parliament.