The Sun.
London, England, 1860-11-15 00:00:00

The same question is now the one in discussion
between Hungary and her faithless oppressors.
Austria has offered them a provincial, a local
Government, leaving them but a province of an
empire. Hungary replies—" Restore our king-
dom as it stood in 1848." The difference is indeed
vast, and one well worthy of all the firmness of
patriots. Under its old Constitution, the country
cannot be oppressed by an Emperor of VIENNA, and
by his foreign troops, except by gross and open
violation of his coronation engagements. German
soldiers would be sent back to take care of Germans,
and Hungarian soldiers would guard Hungary,
and the King and Kingdom of Hungary would be
co-ordinate with the Emperor and Empire of
Austria, properly so called. Taxation and the

levy of troops in Hungary would be a Hungarian,
not a Viennese business. The Hungarians would
be in fact a kingdom and a people. They would
adopt their own commercial policy also. A point
most important to them, and we may add to us.
For the policy of Austria has been to make them-
selves the purchasers at a cheap rate of the vast
raw produce of Hungary, by allowing her no other
market, and to sell in exchange to Hungary at the
dearest rate the bad manufactures of Austria, by
excluding those of other countries from her. The
prosperity therefore of bath nobles and peasants,
who constitute the great bulk of the Hungarian
population, depends on their kingdom having power
to enforce its own commercial code. During his
short presidency KOSSUTH well understood this,
and inaugurated free trade without delay.
At present the Hungarians seem to be taking the
right course. There is no precipitancy; on the
other hand, with insignificant individual excep-

I tions, there is no yielding. The few, indeed, who
j seem to yield, nearly all do so with the idea of
making the Diploma a fulcrum to force the
' oppressing Government to yet further concessions.
Even the newly-appointed Chancellor of Hungary
finds his acceptance of office under the circumstances
so unpopular that he has resigned, and only holds on
temporarily; and but one solitary exile of note has
thought the scheme even workable. Hungary's
strength lies in delay. She need not hasten.
Venetia is draining Austria of men and money;
and either the completion of the Italian Kingdom,
by the conquest of Venetia, or a war there, will
equally be an opportunity for the Hungarians.
Meantime no other Powers of Europe will now
help the distressed despot. They do not wish to
mingle themselves up with a falling cause; while
England, and the French people, perhaps the
French EMPEROR himself, look with satis-
faction on Hungary's determination to be
free. We may naturally, under all the
circumstances, anticipate some important
changes in the spring. By that time it will be seen
what Italy is likely to do. And by that time also,
probably, the pecuniary distress of Austria will
have become intolerable. If she does not bend she
must break ; and England would see her break,
and into a hundred fragments, with not a little
pleasure. Though the pet of our Court, she is the
detestation of our people.

MR BR1G.117; M.P., AND " STRIKES."

A writer in a contemporary says :—I have pe-
rused with some attention a letter from Mr. Bright,
M.P., to a friend in Blackburn, on the subject of
" Strikes," and observe his strong expression of
opinion that an extension of the franchise is the
only hopeful remedy for this economic heresy.
Now, 1 happened to visit Melbourne last year,
where the population is in the full enjoyment of
universal suffrage and vote by ballot, and it
grieved me to fid that the building trades, as
well as others, were absolutely blinder to
their own interests than if they lived in
England and couldn't pay for a house at the
rate of 4s. a week. Their nominal rate of wages
is 14s. to 16s. per day of eight working hours,
which, from the altered circumstances of the colony,
positively forbids the employment of more than
one-half; if so many, of their numbers, and only for
the lavish expenditure of Government hitherto in
public buildings not one-third of them would be at
work. Out of this sum a large weekly allowance
is paid into the club fund for distribution among
the unemployed, and this absurd system has been
prosecuted for years by virtue of the influence of
the leaders in the union, who talk down all remon-
strances after the most Napoleonic fashion.
Many of the poor fellows complained, in terms
of sincere regret, of the condition of their bondage,
but none had the courage to break it, and the at-
tempted eineute of which we have heard by this
mail no doubt arises from the anomalous condition
of the labour market. My own sympathies are by
no means reactionary; but I confess that it shakes
one's confidence in the propriety of an extension of
the franchise when we find, by such experience as
I have referred to, that instead of its working out
the political regeneration of the working classes,
it plunges them more deeply into the slough of
misrule, and is giving them a taste for that most
cursed of all mistaken remedies in such a case—
physical force.

aries."

Lord
Stanley has left Knowsley for Hughenden
Manor, Bucks, on a visit to the Right Hon. B. Disraeli.
We understand that the banner of the late Earl
of Dundonald was, by command of her Majesty and his
Royal Highness the Prince Consort, Great Master of the
Order of the Bath, restored to its place in Henry Vll.'s
Chapel on the day previous to the funeral.

THE LATE SIP: HARRY SMITH.—By his own re-
quest the remains of the late General Sir Harry Smith were
interred at his native place, Whittlesea, in the Isle of Ely.
The funeral was scarcely a public one, though it was at-
tended by the principal gentlemen of the town, and the
several corps of Volunteer Rifles belonging to the isle. As
the Church of St Mary's, in which the family vault lies, is
closed against burials, a vault in the town cemetery was
constructed for the deceased General. A very natural de-
sire exists upon the part of the inhabitants of Whittlesea to
perpetuate the memory of the only distinguished man the
town has yet produced by a local memorial, and steps have
already been taken to secure one.
PORTSMOUTH, WEDNESDAY EVENING.—The fog
cleared off from here soon after the Himalaya's sailing yes-
terday, and a considerable quantity of rain fell during the
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shifting to the northward. This
morning the wind was
round to N W bright and clear. During the day the wind
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rain squalls to windward.

The consequence is, that they all now long for the 1-1- A TEST
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good old times when their representatives met on 1
equal terms with those of Hungary in the Diet,
and when their natural peculiarities were left
wholly, indeed scrupulously, untouched by the
greater kingdom; Austria has, therefore, the
most powerful part of what she calls her em-
pire, but which Hungarians affirm to be
their kingdom, all united in demanding entire resti-
tution of national rights. Hungary lithe military
strength of Austria. Without the aid of her traly
brave sons, the heavy southern Germans would
never make her armies very formidable. Prussia
would be fully her military equal ; France could
make mincemeat of her.
It is striking to notice how firmly the Hun-
garians hare stuck to one formula in all their
demands from Austria since the battle of Solferino.
An endeavour was made a few months after the
battle to detach the Protestants from the agitat-
ing body. Out came the famous patent. It seemed
to confer so much more than was thought likely
to be given, that foreigners at first supposed the
poor oppressed Protestants would gladly accept
it. Nothing of the sort; the astonishing sight
presented itself of the Protestants refusing a consi-
derable measure of emancipation, and of the Catholic,
including those of highest ecclesiastical rank, back-
ing the Protestants in doing it, because it was a
patent, not a restoration of "historical rights."
Catholics, as well as Protestants, feel that there
must be no division on that point. The Catholic
Primate of Hungary firmly supported the principle
of a " historical Hungary." It is understood that
the Protestants will ultimately triumph by passive
resistance.

NEWS'

ARRIVAL OF THE PRINCE OF
WALES.

PLYMOUTH, THURSDAY.
The Hero and the Ariadne came to anchor in
Plymouth Sound at half-past nine o'clock. The
ships and forts saluting.
The Himalaya had communicated with the
squadron, and is gone on to Portsmouth.

The Corporation of Plymouth intend to present
an address to the Prince.

The Prince of Wales and suite left the Hero at
half-past ten in the Avon, and landed at the
Victualling-yard, thence his Royal Highness pro-
ceeded in a carriage to the railway station, and left
at noon by a special train.

ANOTHER ACCOUNT,
PLYMOUTH, THURSDAY, 9 A.M.
The Hero, the Ariadne, and the Flying Fish are
now entering the Sound.

10 A.M.

The Hero was accompanied only by the Hima-
laya and the Orlando. The Himalaya is gone to
the eastward.

The customary salutes have been fired. The St.
George is decked with colours.

The weather is fine : wind westerly.
All the Hero's small spars, flying jib, royal masts,
and top•gallait yards are taut. She does not
appear to have suffered much from the gale.
The steam-tug Avon is alongside, prepared to
receive his Royal Highness the Prince of Wales.
His Royal Highness will land at the Royal
William Victualling-yard, where he will be received
by the Plymouth Volunteers, under Major Duperier,
and a guard of honour of the 12th, commanded by
a field-officer. At the station, Colonel Lambrick
and 100 Royal Marines form a guard of honour on
the platform.

The ground is kept by Major Deacon and 100 of
the 61st Regiment.

The Prince goes up by special engine, now on the
point of starting, and he may arrive at Windsor
between 4 and 5 o'clock.

(REUTER'S TELEGRAMS.)
NAPLES, Nov. 15.
The British arms have this instant been taken
down (half-past 1 o'clock).

NAPLES, Nov. 14.

Gaeta is still infested on the land side.

On Monday one regiment and two companies of
Bourbon troops were met by the Sardinians and
made prisoners.

The Royalists encamped outside the fortress have
proposed to surrender.
The garrison of Gaeta numbers 3,000 men.
General Klapka had arrived at Naples.

TURIN, Nov. 14.
Fanti will leave tomorrow for Naples.

PARIS, Nov. 14.
The Presse announces that the Empress left this
morning for Scotland in strict incognito.
Her Majesty will pass some weeks at the seat
of the Duchess of Hamilton.

FRANCE.
PARIS, WEDNESDAY.
The Moniteur publishes the following account of
the progress of affairs in China :
" After the capture of the forts of Taku, the
French and English Ambassadors immediately
proceeded to Tien-tsin, where, after a brief ne-
gotiation with the Imperial Commissioner Kouei-
Liang, a project of convention was decided upon
for the purpose of re-establishing peace between
the allied Governments and that of China. The
last-named, yielding on all points to the demanis
of the allied Powers, declared itself ready to ac-
cept the ultimatum which France and England
had presented in March last. Baron Gros and Lord
Elgin had already made their preparations to pro-
ceed to Pekin, with a suitable escort to exchange
there the ratifications of the treaty of June
27th, 1858, and deliver their letters of credence
into the hands of the Emperor, when the Chinese

Commissioner suddenly alleged that he had not
sufficient powers, and refused to sign the prelimi-
naries already accepted ; and he declared to the
ambassadors that he could not treat except ad refe-
rendum. Such conduct evinced on the part of the
Chinese negotiator a want of good faith, which
necessarily irritated the plenipotentiaries of France
and Great Britain. A resolution was immediately
come to with common accord between Baron Gros
and Lord Elgin, that they would reply• by causing
the allied forces to advance as far as 'Ting-Tchou,
a large town situated on the road to Pekin, and
about ten miles from the capitaA. It was
there only, they declared, that they would
listen to the propositions of the Imperial Com-
missioners, provided this time with full and
real powers. After this resolution, which was
come to on the Bth September, the escort which
was to have accompanied the Ambassadors to Pekin
was obliged to be transformed into a 15 ody of troops
sufficiently strong to convince the Chinese Govern-
ment of the firm determination of the nllied•Powers
to attain the object which they proposed to them-
selves. The latest information recei-ved, and par-
ticularly a despatch from General Sir Hope Grant,
dated the 27th September, and whiLeh came from
Aden by telegraph to her Britannic Majesty, fully
authorises the hope that a fresh recourse to arms
will not have been necessary, and that the Chinese
Government will have hastened to sanction the
conditions already consented to by t! to plenipoten-

"It is stated positively," says the. Messager du
Midi," that when the Chinese expedition has com-
pleted its object, Gen. Montauban will take his forces
to Cochin China. The following is the state in which
things are in th• latter country r----We have at
Segou, the second capital of that vast empire, 300
men at the most, of whom 150 are marines and 150
seamen. These men are commanded by a young and
intelligent captain in the navy, whio has conducted
the expedition with great energy ;and skill. The
Spaniards have a force of 1,200 in en stationed at
Turon. This handful of soldiers of the two nations
are surrounded by an army of 50,000 Cochin
Chinese. Gen. Montauban, on reaching Cochin
China, will, it is said, advance on ue, the capital
of the empire, and it is there that peace must be
concluded."

BOURSE, Nov. 14.—Sales for rtlisation have
continued to-day, and prices have in idergone a fur-
ther decline, the market being dep,:ressed in con-
sequence of the announcement of the. Bank of Eng-
land making a further advance ien its rate of
discount. For the Account, Three s, aro now at
69f 691 c; Mobilier, 753 f 75c ; Or?teans, 1,383 f ;
Northern, 985 f; Mediterranean, 90,7 f; Austrian,
511 f 25c ; Lombard, 487 f 50c. Tim following are
the last quotations :

41 per per Cents... 95 80 Credit For,d'er 920
Do end month.... 96 i Belgian 41,... —
3 per Cents
Do. end month 69 —! Roman ...... . 79 25
Bank Shares . 2905 Austrian ~. . 75
credit Mobilier.... 755 r Spanish 'flax ees.... 49
Do. Account 753 75 j Home Debt
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