The Sun.
London, England, 1860-09-11 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, SEPTEMBER 11, 1860,

was opposed by Sir H. Willoughby, on account of
the compensation clause. That hon. member ob-
jected to the compensations rendered necessary
under the provisions of the bill being charged on
the Consolidated Fund, thinking that such charges
should, in the first instance, at all events, be laid
on the fees of the Bankruptcy Court, and that only
such deficiency as might inevitably arise after-
wards, should be charged upon the Consolidated
Fund. With great good humour the Attorney-
General agreed to that proposal. The bill then
proceeded in the committee till it reached the 165th
clause, which was objected to by Mr. Henley. On
this objection he (Mr. Horsfall) thought the At-
torney-General took rather a strained view of the
nature of the observations made by Mr. Henley.
He had always thought, and he believed the Cham-
ber would agree with him in opinion, that there
ought to be jao distinction between:traders and non-
traders, but, in point of fact, if any man could not
/ pay his debts he ought to be made a bankrupt. Mr.
1 Henley's objections, he believed, referred more par-
ticularly to special matters, and affected only some
of the details of the measure. He hoped that the
Bankruptcy Bill, however, would be one of the first
introduced during the next session, and also that
it would be one of the earliest to receive the Royal
assent. (Hear, hear.)
,He said he had been up-
braided by some of his Conservative friends for
voting in favour of the budget, but when he
found that it proposed to abolish the duties on
so many articles on which he thought duties
should not be levied he should have been
very inconsistent if he had not supported it.
That budget he need not remind the meeting made
arrangements for abolishing the duties on a very
large number of articles which, although vexatious
in their collection, did not yield a revenue in any
degree ccmmensurate with the trouble they occa-
sioned. With respect to the French treaty, con-
cerning which so much has been said in hul s..
ment and elsewhere, but concerning which he did
not think there was any very great diversity of
opinion, he had been informed that it had already
been productive of good effects in extending a
knowledge of the principles of free trade among
the French people. Indeed, on what he considered
very good authority, he had been told that the
principles of free trade must now inevitably prevail
in France, and, being himself a Freetrader, he
considered the Government deserved great credit
and support for introducing and carrying out that
measure. No was also of opinion that the Govern-
ment deserved thanks for adopting and acting on
the principle that this country must be defended
from even the appearance of challenge or risk, and
in adopting and supporting the Volunteer move-
ment the Government had done much to ensure
the national security. Without a feeling of se-
curity, he need not say, it would be impossible to
maintain our commerce, our manufactures, and our
agriculture. (Hear, hear.) In respect to mail con-
tracts, concerning which so much had been said,
he disapproved the proceedings, as the 3e had come
to light, not on account of the parties with whom
they had been made, or because they were in them-
selves extravagant, but because they had been made
in secret. He was of opinion that in all such
cases at least a month's notice should be given in
the House of Commons. After allusion to the re-
port of the Shipping Inquiry Committee he said he
could not sit down without saying a word in refe-
rence to the rising importance and growing magni-
tude of the trade of Liverpool. That would be seen by
the amount of increase in the value of its exports,
in his return just issued under the authority of
Government it would be seen that the increase in
the value of the exports from the port of London
was £1,349,000, while in Liverpool in the same time
the increase was £11,000,000.
Mr. W. BROWN, late M.P., seconded the motion.
In doing so he complained that while much benefit
had been conferred on trade by the abolition of those
duties to which Mr. Horsfall had alluded, he had
never in the course of his 50 years' experience
known such an amount of vexation and annoyance
as had been caused to merchants by the introduction
of numerous petty regulation which embarrass
trade. He thought the Chancellor of the Exche-
quer should be ashamed of himself for the numerous
twopenny obstructions which he had put upon
trade.
The motion was carried, and after a discussion
upon several matters of purely local interest the
meeting separated, having first, on the motion of
Mr. Horsfall, passed a vote of thankssto the chair-
man.

say whether Tomlinsoi would be at his break a
minute before I got 'o mine. I cannot say how
long I should be in crossing the carriages, but I
was careful.

By Mr. Robinson, solicitor, Colne—l do not
know how Tomlinson pt at his break. As we went
to Manchester eight of ten persons were sitting on
the roofs of carriages.
By M. Grundy—l dtended here at the request
of the police. I was lot solicited to come by the
company. Tomlinson break carriage being the
first in the morning, 7ould be the last in the train
at night. The person who rode at the top of car-
riages in going wereput into carriages when we
returned. It is a coarnon thing for guards to get
down at the stations and attend to passengers.
Tomlinson had been Coing so when I saw him run
past me to his break. I did not see Chippendale,
the guard, at Helmslure, but I will not say he was
not at his place in he forward part of the train.
By patent breaks I nean Newall's patent. I do
not mean there is at:Q, difference between the power
of ordinary break van and break carriages.
The court adjournd. at one o'clock. The coroner•
and jury, after dining, proceeded to the railway
station, to make thar further examination of the
broken carriage shickle. The court had not re-
assembled when on/report was despatched at three
o'clock.

It will ha seen thit only one witness was exa-
mined in the mornng in upwards of three hours.
The examination wts finished in half an hour, and
the cross-examinaton of attorneys took up the
remainder of the tme. At this rate the inquest
will last many da7s.

THE STEPNEY MURDER.

TEIE INQUEST.

Yesterday afterioon at 5 o'clock Mr. Humphreys,
the coroner, and tie jury, whom he had summoned
after a few hours notice, assembled again at the
Railway Hotel, (rove road, and resumed the in-
vestigation touchiig the murder of Mrs. Emsley.
The whole neigabourhood was in a state of ex-
citement consequeit upon the apprehension of Mul-
lins and Emms, of suspicion of being concerned in
the murder. Theinquest-room was crowded, and a
number of people stood in a group in front of the
deceased's house, hard by. Mr. Rose, the solicitor
to the deceased, was again in attendance to watch
the proceedings, as was also Mr. Ratcliff, the soli-
citor acting for the trusteea under the will of the
late Mr. Emsley, her late husband. Mr. John
Faith, of Park-house, Mile-end, and Mr. Whit-
taker, residing in Bow•road, who are married to
the two daughters of Mr. Ernsley by a former
marriage, were also present, with many other
respectable people living in the immediate vicinity
of the murder, and to whom Mrs. Emsley was well
known.

The jury having responded to their names,
Isispector Thornton was called by the coroner
He said,—l am an inspector of the Metropolitan
Police, and have been charged with the duty of en-
deavouring to discover the murderer of Mrs. Ems-
ley. In consequence of information I received on
Saturday from Sergeants Tanner and Thomas, who
have been assisting me in this matter, I ordered
them to have Mullins at Scotland-yard on Sunday
morning, and he came there from Chelsea about 11
o'clock. There we all four got into a cab and pro-
ceeded to a place called Elmsley's brickfields in
Globe-town, Mile-end, where a man named Walter
Thomas Emms resides in a cottage. On our way
Mullens said he had suspicion of Emms being con-
cerned in the murder of Mrs. Emsley ; that on
Saturday morning he, being in the brickfield, saw
Emms leave his house about half-past eight o'clock,
and after looking about him to see whether any-
body was on the alert, he proceeded to a ruin, or
shed, at a little distance, from which, after remain-
ing there a short time, he returned to his house,
carrying a large parcel, and looking about him be-
fare entering the house. There he staid about ten.
minutes, and then came out and went to a sort of
washhouse or " lean-to" adjoining his house. I
must tell you (said Inspector Thornton, parenthe-
tically) that this washhouse has only half a door,
that half being at the top, and was open to the
public. It has only one entrance, which is out-
side of Dams' house, and by which any person
can go in, if he pleases. Mullins went on to say
that about ten minutes after he had seen Emms go
into his house carrying a large parcel, he saw him
leave the house again with a parcel in his hand
about the size of a pint pot, and enter the wash-
house, where he remained about a minute, and re-
turned to his house without a parcel. On our
arriving at the brickfield Mullins took us by a
rather circuitous route, and showed us, from a little
distance, the position of the house, washhouse, and
shed. As we were passing over a fence we saw
Emma, in company with another man. Emma had
not then perceived us. We had intended to go
round to the proper entrance to Emma' house, but,
seeing Emms at a little distance, we thought. it
prudent to approach and break the matter to Inhim;
Mullins, at our request, keeping away for a time
in the background. We passed through an open-
ing in a fence, and, going to Emms, we asked if he
could speak to as for a moment privately. He
thereupon left the person with whom he was talk-
ing. We then told him we were police officers (he
appeared to know Sergeant Tanner, and perhaps
me, too) ; that we had received information from a
person (not disclosing then the name of our infor-
mant); who was on the spot, to the effect that he
was seen. coming out of his house about half-past
eight on Saturday morning going to the ruined
shed in the field, returning thence with a parcel,
and then, after remaining in his house a few mi-
nutes, going to the washhouse with a smaller parcel
which he left there, and returned to his house
empty handed. With an air of apparent truthful-
ness he denied that statement, and said that he had
not been in the ruin since last Saturday week, that
he then went there to take or fetch some bottles,
end that he was not out of bed until half-past nine
on Saturday morning. 1 then told him, as he de-
nied the statement, that it would be necessary for
us to search his place. He replied that we were
welcome to do that at any time, adding that, in
order to test the truth of what he had said, we
might go and see his wife, and ask her as to the
time when he left his house on Saturday morn-
ing, which, to the best of his belief, was nearly 10
o'clock, he being unwell that morning, Mullins had
stated to us that he had seen Emma leave his house
at half-past eight on Saturday morning. Tanner,
accompanied by Thomas, went and saw his wife,
leaving me in the field with Emms. On returning
they said they had seen Mrs. Emms and had
searced the house, but had found nothing. Emma
appeared to be suffering from illness, and I thought
at the time it would not be desirable to confront
him with Mullins. Mullins at this time was seen
coming in the direction in which we stood, and I
sent Tanner to keep him away, and to tell him that
we did not then want Emms to know our in-
formant. Tanner and Mullins went towards the
washhouse and held conversation. Something oc-
curred which Tanner communicated to Thomas, and
Thomas went into the washhouse, and returned
with a parcel to where Emms and I stood. Holding
the parcel up, Thomas said to Emms, " What is
this ; who put this in the washhouse ; what does it
contain ?" Emms said, " I don't know ; what is it,
and who put it there ?" The parcel was opened
by Thomas in the presence of Emms, and was found
to contain, three or four teaspoons, a German silver
tablespoon, two lenses, some blotting-paper, por-
tions of a newspaper, and a piece of paper folded
up, which latter Thomas handed to me in the pre-
sence, of Emms. As I opened it Emms said, "Good
God! that is Pickering's cheque," or words to that
effect. I don't remember the exact words he used,
but I believe he said it was the cheque Mrs. Ems-
ley received on the day she was murdered, adding,
" Good God, what can this mean ? it is a wicked
and base plot." The parcel found in the washhouse
was partly tied round with a piece of shoemaker's
waxend, and partly by a piece of tape resembling a
pocket, apron, or petticoat string. Tanner, Thomas,
and I then held a consultation, and we came to the
conclusion that it was our duty to take both Emma
and Mullins into custody. We did not, however,
communicate with Mullins further than to desire
him to accompany us to the police-station, and he
walked there by the side of Tanner. On arriving at
the station I charged Emma on suspicion with being
concerned in the murder of Mrs. Emsley. I then
pnt Mullins in the dock and made a similar charge
against him. We went then to Mullins' lodging
at 33, Barnsley-street, where a bricklayer's ham-
mer was found, some waxends, and a piece of tape,
precisely corresponding with that with which the .
parcel was tied up.
Richard Tanner was next called. He said—l
am a detective sergeant. On Saturday afternoon,
between 5 and 6 o'clock, a man named Mullins
came to my house, and said he wished to give me
some information. He had previously been to the
house of Inspector Thornton, but had not found
him in. I took him to my room,.and he made the
following statement to me :—" You know, Sergeant
Tanner, since I saw you and Inspector Thornton, I
have had my suspicions about the man who mur-
dered Mrs. Emsley, and I have been watching him
ever since." I asked him, before he went any fur-
ther, to tell me who it was. He replied, " Emms."
He then said—" On Saturday morning at 5 o'clock,
I went to Emsley's brickfield, and remained there
for the purpose of watching Emrns, but pretended
to be picking herbs. Between 8 and 9, I saw
Emms come out of his dwelling, which is situated
in }Ansley's brickfield, go to a shed about 50 yards
in front of his house, bring out a parcel from the
shed and take it into his house, where he remained
about 10 minutes, then come out again and go to
the lean-to adjoining his house with a parcel about

the size of a pint pot, where he stayed• about two
minutes, and then came out without the parcel and
re-entered his house." I asked Mullins what he

hought the parcel contained. He said he did not

know. I then told him I would arrange to send a
sergeant for him on Sunday morning if he would
remain at home, and I took his address, 17, Oak-
ham-street, Chelsea. He said on parting with me,
"Now, don't go without me, and I will behave
well to you if it all comes off right."
(Sensation.) I said to him, " You know

I have reduced your statement to writing,
and you can call on me to produce it any time
No advantage will be taken of your information ; I
hope you think we are above that." (The witness
then, in much the same terms as Inspector Thornton
had used, related how Mullins next morning accom-
panied them to the brickfield, and the conversation
there with Emms.) He continued to say—Emms,
having referred us to his wife as to the time he got
up on Saturday morning, I went and saw her, and
she told me her husband did not rise that (Satur-
day) morning until nine o'clock, being unwell, and
that most assuredly he was not out of the house
until ten. The daughter also corroborated that
statement. After stating that the first search in the
washhouse was fruitless, witness continued—As I
was communicating that fact to Inspector Thornton
and Emma, who were standing together in the
middle of the field, Mullins appeared in the back-
ground, about 50 yards off. I was sent to engage
him in conversation, and on meeting him he said,
" You have not half searched that place. She,"
meaning Mrs. Emms, "had her back to you all the
while. Come with me and I'll show you where I
mean he went and put the thing." I said, " No, not
now; Emms does not know that you are our infor-
mant, and we don't want him to know." We
walked along towards the shed adjoining Emms'
house, and stopped about four yards ix front of the
door. He (Mullins) said, "Look now; go in there,
pull down that slab, and turn up those bricks"
(sensation), pointing to a slab that lay against the
wall on the right of the doorway. I told Thomas
to go and pull down the slab in question, which
he did, and I saw him find a parcel. I then told
Mullins to go away and wait for me at the
Rising Sun (a tavern in the neighbourhood). I
joined Inspector Thornton and Emms in the middle
of the field. Thomas came to us with the pat cel
and asked Emms what it was, and who put it in
the warehouse. Emms said he did not know.
Thomas took out a piece of folded paper from
among the contents of the parcel, and handed it to
Inspector Thornton ; and as the latter opened it
Emms said, " Good Heavens ! It is Pickering's
cheque, which was paid to the old lady on the day
she was murdered ; I don't understand it ' • this is a
wicked, foul plot." I was then desired by Thornton
to bring Mullins back, which I did, and on our way
back Mullins said, " Have you found anything ?" I
said, " Yes, Thomas has found a parcel ;" upon which
he (Mullins) rubbed his hands as if with pleasure,
and asked, " Have you found any—money ?" (Sen-
sation.) I said I could not say just then. I was
desired to take, him to the station, which I did.
Thefe I desired him to take off his shoe-s, and I
found one of them tied with a piece of string (pro-
duced), which had been waxed by a shoemaker ap-
parently, and which I compared with the waxed
string with which the parcel was partly tied, and
found that they very nearly corresponded. I then
proceeded, with Thornton and Thomas, to 33,
Barnsley street, and there, in a back room on the
ground floor, occupied by Mullins, and given by
him as his address at the station, I found a piece of
tape which exactly corresponds with that used in
tying up the parcel.
Sergeant Thomas spoke to a conversation he had
with A Mullins on Sunday morning near the house
17, Oakham-street, Chelsea, occupied by him (Mul-
lins) and his wife (he having only a lodging in
in Barnsley-street). On that occasion Mullins fol-
lowed him to Brompton-road, and while they were
waiting for an omnibus he said to witness, " Thomas
I thought you was Tanner ; I am very clever in
these matters, I have been working very hard day
and night to secure this scoundrel who murdered
Mts. Emsley." Witness asked him whom he sus-
pected. He replied, " I suspect Emma; no man
had a better opportunity of gaining access
to her, as he was in the habit of taking her
money and would be admitted to her house at
any time." Witness asked him if he (Mullins)
would not have been admitted if he had knocked
at her door. His reply was, "No ; she would
speak to me through the window or from the area."
Witness then described in some detail the finding
of the parcel and the mode in which it was tiei up.
Inspector Thornton produce]. the hammer found
at Mullins's lodging. It was an instrument such
as is used by slaters, and was bath a hammer and a
chisel. The inspector said it was known that Mul-
lins always carried about with him a hammer of
that description.
Mr. Whittaker, a relation of the deceased by
marriage, said, on being appealed to, he could not
say he knew the handwriting of Mullins, but he
held a receipt of his.
Mr. John Joshua Caryer, a partner in the firm of
Piekering and Caryer, Cambridge-road, Mile-end,
proved that on the morning of the 13th Aug., about
12 o'clock, they gave Mrs. Emsley a check for £lO
in payment of rent they owed her. That check was
dated, by mistake, on the 14th Aug., instead of the
13th, but it was given to the deceased on the 13th.
He identified the check found in the parcel in
-Emms's washhouse as the one which was given by
them to Ma's. Emsley.
The inquest was then, on the suggestion of the
Coroner, adjourned until Monday next, at 10
o'clock, when, he said, they would possibly be in a
position to close the investigation.