The Sun.
London, England, 1860-02-07 00:00:00

THIII D EDITION.

hUN OFFICE, Seren o' Clock.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS—(THIS EvEnso.)
The Lonn CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack
at five o'clock.

CRIMINAL LAW.
Lord LYNDHURST called the attention of the noble
and learned lord on the woolsack to the bills he had intro-
duced, as he had been informed, for the consolidati•n of the
criminal law. One of these bills was not confined to the
consolidation, but extended to the amendment of the law.
The LORD CHANCELLOR• said, not amendment, but
assimilation.
Lord L YNDHURST said, at all events he inferred that
a clause in one of them was at variance with the law.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said the noble lord had
been entirely roisinfoimed, when he was told the bills were
merely for consolidation. He had expressly said that the
object was to assimilate the law of England and Ireland.

He had spent hours in company with Mr. Greaves in ex-
amining them with a view of preventing any inaccuracies,
but he intended to propose that a committee be appointed
to examine them still further, and any assistance the noble
and learned lord could afford would be of great value.
Lord LYNDIIURST referred to a certain clause which
he thought bad.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said he could not go into
the subject, because he had not received any notice that he
intended to do so from the noble and learned lord.
CHURCH .
The Marquis of BATH presented petitions against the
abolition of church rates.
ST. GEORGE' S-IN -THE-E AST.
The Earl of DERBY rose to put the question of which
he had given notice relative to the proceedings that had
for some time past been taking place in the parish of St.
George's-in•the-East. The noble lord took the opportu-
nity of alluding to the subject in order that his noble
friend might contradict what he felt sure must be a
mistake in the speech made in another place by
a right honourable colleague of his. He had no
sympathy with those persons who introduced into the
simple services of the Church of England practices dis-
tasteful to the majority of the parishioners and worship-
pers, and which might eventually have the effect of driving
them into dissenting chapels. This, however, would offer
no palliation to the conduct which made St. George's-in-
the-East scandalously notorious. The proceedings that had
taken place in that church were disgraceful to any Christian
parish. Their lordships had, no doubt, seen the accounts
in the papers of the slamming of doors and other proceed-
ings, a parallel to which could only be found in a penny
theatre. He could not dwell any further upon the scenes
that had taken place, further than to say that a rev. gen-
tleman had that day informed him that the reports of the
proceedings were in no way exaggerated, as he had himself
been struck in the face by peas and other substances. The
question he wished answered was, whether the Government
had had their attention called to the proceedings that had
taken place in St. George's-in-the-East, and what steps
they had taken to suppress a repetition of them,
and whether they had examined the laws on the question
with a view of ascertaining whether they were sufficient
to check such scenes. If the law had been found insuffi-
cient to check those outrages, whether they were prepared
to introduce a measure to remedy this scandalous state of
things ?
Earl GRANVILLE said the words that had fallen from
the noble earl would no doubt have very great effect. lie
perfectly agreed with him that the matter was a great scan-
dal to all parties concerned. With regard to the police,
there was some difficulty. Orders, as he (had stated the
other evening, had been given to do all they could to
repress the disturbance as vigorously as possible, but
they could not legally interfere further than they
had done. He could not at that moment take upon
himself to state what the law was, but the magistrate
in the district had informed parties who had waited upon
him that if they could point any individual who had created
a disturbance there he could be taken into custody, but that
he had no power to interfere. On Sunday last the church-
wardens informed the police that there was no necessity for
their entering the church.
Lord BROUGHAM expressed his disgust at the scenes
that had been reported. The noble earl talked of the power
of the police to interfere. Why, his noble friend (Earl
of Derby) had distinctly stated an instance of palpable as-
sault. The police ought not to have remained outside,
notwithstanding the direction of the churchwarden. He
thought the disturbances could most speedily be put an end
to by closing the church.
The Bishop of LONDON said there were in existence
two laws quite sufficient to meet the evil. The noble earl
had said there was some difficulty on the point, but:he
must say he could not discover any to the carrying outlet'
the law. He was certain that if any of the rioters were
taken before the magistrates they would be punished. Witk
respect to closing the church, that had been tried, but he
was quite certain that if all parties concerned in the painful
proceedings were to agree to place the whole subject in his
hands, he would, he felt assured, restore that peace which
was so much desired by all parties. (hear, hear.)
The subject then dropped.
NICE AND SAVOY.
The Marquis of NORMAN BY then rose, and was
[LEFT SPEAKING.]

HOUSE OF COMMONS.-(THIS EVENING.)

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The SPEAKER took the chair at four o'clock.

NEW MEMBER.
Mr. CATINEGIE took the oaths and his seat for Forfar, in
the room of Lord Duncan, now Earl of Camperdown.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The standing orders were declared to have been complied
with in the case of a large number of private bills.
The following bills were read a second time :—Epping
Railways (Ilford Lines, &c.), Hay Railway, Hereford,
Hay, and Brecon Railway, Horsham and Guildford Direct
Railway, Liskeard Water, North British and Peebles and
Jedburgh Railway Companies, North Eastern and New-
castle-upon-Tyne and Carlisle Railway Companies Amal-
gamation, Scottish Drainage and Improvement Company.
South Kensington Railway, Stockton and Darlington Rail-
way, 'Thames Tunnel Railway, and Wimbledon and Dork-
ing Railway.
Sir J. ELPHINSTONE moved that the proceedings on
the second reading of the Ness and Beauty Fisheries Bill
be null and void.—Agreed to.

PETITIONS.
Several petitions were presented, chiefly from the pro-
vinces, against the unconditional abolition of church-rates ;
against hostilities with China ; against the present increase
in the military and naval expenditure of the country; in
favour of national education and tenant-right in Ireland ;
in favour of the total abolition of church-rates ; from the
shipowners of Montrose in favour of an inquiry relative to
the burdens affecting the shipping interest, &C.
CHURCH DISCIPLINE AMENDMENT BILL.
Mr. H. SEYMOUR said that he would postpone his
motion for leave to bring in this bill, which stood on the
paper for this evening, till this day fortnight.
SAVINGS BANKS.
Mr. LAING moved for returns from each aavinvs bank
in England and Wales, Scotland, and Ireland, containing,
in columns, the names of the officers, their respective sala-
ries, and other allowances, if any ; the amount of security
each gives ; the number of accounts remaining open ; the
total amount owing to depositors; the total amount invested
with the Commissioners for the Reduction of the National
Debt ; the rate of interest paid to depositors on the various
amounts of deposit, and the average rate of interest on all ac-
counts ; and the total amount of the separate surplus fund on
the 20th November, 1869 ; the rate per centum per annum
on the capital of the bank for the expenses of management ;
the anuual number of receipts from depositors ; the annual
number of payments ; the average amount of receipts ; the
average amount of payments ; the number and amount of
annuities granted ; the annual expenses of management,
inclusive of all payments and salaries, for the year ended
the 20th day of November, 359 ; also the year in which
business commenced in each bank, ansl the name of the day
or days, and the number of hours in the week, on which
the banks are open for the deposit and withdrawal of moneys.
—Ordered.

CAPE OF GOOD HOPE.
Mr. A. MILLS moved an address for copies of extracts
of all correspondence which had taken place between the
Colonial-office and Governor Sir George Grey respecting
his recal from the Cape of Good Hope, and his subsequent
re-appointment to the government of that colony.—Ordered,
HO.

MC. JOHN LOCKE moved for returns of the total
number of acres of land in the United Kingdom under the
cultivation of hops in the year 18.59 ; distinguishing the
number of acres in each parish; and the number of pounds'
weight charged with duty in each collection; and the
number of pounds' weight charged with duty in each
parish : of the amount of duty charged on hops in
each collection of the growth of the year 1859 ; dis•
tinguishing the districts, and the old from the new duty in
each district ; showing the average amount of duty per acre
in each collection; of the quantity of British hops exported
from the United Kingdom to foreign countries, from the
Ist day of January to the 30th day of June, and from the
Ist day of July to the 31st day of December, 1859, respec•
tively ; distinguishing the countries to which the same
have been exported, and also the quantities to each
country, with the dates of the years in which the
hops were grown ; of the quantity of foreign
hops exported from the United Kingdom to
foreign countries, from the Ist day of January to the 30th
day of Jug's, and the Ist day of July to the 31st day
of December, 1859, respectively, distinguishing the coun-
tries to which the same have been exported, and also the
quantities to each country ; of the quantity of foreign hops
imported into the United Kingdom, from the Ist day of
January to the 30th day of June, and from the Ist day of
July to the 31st day of December, 1839, respectively, dis-
tinguishing the ports where imported and the countries
whence exported.—Agreed to.
QUEEN'S PRINTERS' PATENT.
Mr. BLACK asked the Secretary of State for the Home
Department if the patent of the Queen's printers for print-
ing Bibles and Acts of Parliament had been renewed ; and,
if so, what were the terms on which it had been renewed
And, it the patent had not been renewed, on what condi-
tions were Bibles and Acts of Parliament now printed ?
Sir G. C. LEWIS said that the committee on this subject
recommended the appointment during the present session
of another commission. With reference to the printing of
Bibles, the patent had been renewed during her Majesty's
pleasure ; and with regard to the public papers, an arrange-
ment had been made by which they would be printed at a
reduced rate.
THE COMMERCIAL TREATY WITH FRANCE.
In reply to Mr. S. FITZGERALD,
Lord J. RUSSELL said that, although the version of
the text of the commercial treaty with France whicht
ap-
peared is some of the journals was partly correct,still
question
was impossible to understand so complicated a
without being in possession of the text of the treaty. It
was not the intention of Government to lay
on the table the
treaty before Friday next.
QUESTION.
THE ITALIAN
Lord C. HAMILTON asked the Secretary of State for
Foreign Affairs, if it was true that Lord Cowley had been
instructed to communicate to the French Government a
project for the definitive settlement of the Italian question ;
and, if so, whether he had any objection to communicate
the details of that project to the house.
Lord J,RUSSELL said that it was necessary, in order
to satisfy the hon. member, to enter into an account of what
had already taken place with respect to the affairs of Italy.
Hon. members must have seen from her Majesty's most
gracious Speech, that her representatives were invited to
attend the congress and take part in its deliberations ; but
subsequently her Majesty's Ministers_ had been informed of